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Title: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: admin on August 16, 2005, 05:14:49 AM
This is the new home of USAC discussion. Welcome aboard, everyone.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 16, 2005, 08:18:36 AM
let's start this off right...GO MONARCHS!

pat, does d3sports.com mean we might get coverage of some other sports (ie: baseball?) - thanks...new boards look great!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wildbill on August 16, 2005, 09:59:52 AM
Less than 3 weeks until the Beast of the East plays the Mouth of the South!  Should be a good game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 16, 2005, 11:53:52 AM
Ok, nice...just checking this out to see if my name is still alive....


ROLL PRIDE !!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 16, 2005, 12:14:10 PM
Digging the new layout Pat!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: gil68 on August 16, 2005, 01:37:51 PM
Any word from DePauw camp? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on August 16, 2005, 02:01:22 PM
You probably would have a better chance of getting an answer on the SCAC board, given that DePauw is not in the USAC. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 16, 2005, 02:22:48 PM
Quote from: narch on August 16, 2005, 08:18:36 AMpat, does d3sports.com mean we might get coverage of some other sports (ie: baseball?)

Unfortunately for you, no. I still have this silly need to occasionally sleep.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 16, 2005, 03:09:35 PM
Come on Pat...sleep is overrated! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: redkite on August 16, 2005, 04:25:54 PM
wow this is nice. great job pat.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 16, 2005, 04:54:22 PM
GO HORNETS!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 16, 2005, 09:31:04 PM
pat - sorry to hear that, but the new boards are GREAT!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on August 17, 2005, 09:46:00 AM


New Season, New Challenges - Let the Swarmin begin.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on August 17, 2005, 09:50:01 AM
Pat, how do you change the "junior varsity" to just varsity?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2005, 10:48:49 AM
When you gain a little more seniority in posting.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on August 17, 2005, 11:39:38 AM
Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on August 17, 2005, 12:37:15 PM
Keep posting and you will see your status change.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 17, 2005, 02:15:47 PM
Anyone going to the intra-squad scrimmage this Saturday at 1:15 over at SU?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ballcoach on August 17, 2005, 03:15:13 PM
Uncle Jessie,

I will be there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on August 17, 2005, 06:58:46 PM
trying to figure this out
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on August 17, 2005, 07:00:37 PM
dang..I lost credit for about 1000 mindless posts

how can you get the order of the posts to reverse, so I don't have to go to page 2? (I want most recent on page 1)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on August 17, 2005, 07:30:06 PM
I'll be there at SU on Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 17, 2005, 09:58:49 PM
'85 - go to "profile", "look and layout" then select "show most recent posts first"...oh yeah...GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2005, 10:23:15 PM
Quote from: cnu85 on August 17, 2005, 07:00:37 PMdang..I lost credit for about 1000 mindless posts

891, actually. Taken care of.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: redkite on August 17, 2005, 11:33:46 PM
hey pat? would you have any way of trasfering the # of posts to my new account? My name is Uncle Jessie. If not no big deal. But if you can thanks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: redkite on August 17, 2005, 11:34:48 PM
Looking at the # of post. i should have like 170 something i think.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on August 18, 2005, 05:16:36 PM
More questions time... I look at the help info, but the screens don't always look the same.

So far, all posts have RE: USA........

The only way to post is to hit the reply button. The help info says there is a "start new" button. What's up with that? Will all the posts forever have the subject RE:USA.....?

How can I post someting new without it being a reply to a previous post?

Thanks for the help...I'll keep looking....

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 18, 2005, 07:10:37 PM
On the opening page of the South Colleges page where all of the conferences are listed there is a link for "start new topic" but I'm not sure if you can start a new topic within the USA SAC (that is so annoying to write, I miss the good ol' "dixie" days) page.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnugrad2000 on August 19, 2005, 01:44:40 AM
This is really nice, Pat.
Title: CNU: 10-0
Post by: cnugrad2000 on August 19, 2005, 01:48:01 AM
I'm just working my way through the new setup here. I really like this. Of course, I'd also really like if the subject line comes true this season!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnugrad2000 on August 19, 2005, 01:54:04 AM
How do I insert an image? (Like Narch has with his posts...)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 19, 2005, 08:47:48 AM
CNUgrad Click on the profile link at the top of this page.  Then on the left side of the page click on forum profile information.  Then you can select your own picture.

Narch, any news out of Monarch Camp?  Any surprise freshman?  How's the heat been down in the pit for 2-a-days?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on August 19, 2005, 09:14:16 AM
Ok, so do you have to use a url to get a picture up?? There's no way to select a logo saved on your computer?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 19, 2005, 10:41:17 AM
So far, yes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on August 19, 2005, 11:03:04 AM
Quote from: cnufan13 on August 19, 2005, 09:14:16 AM
Ok, so do you have to use a url to get a picture up?? There's no way to select a logo saved on your computer?

For those without the ability/etc. to stick an image on a public URL, I'll be happy to host them.  The cost is 1 karma point  :o

Seriously, send me your image (click on my name for the email address) and I'll stick it on a web site and send you back the URL.  I got a gigabyte just laying around waiting to be used. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 19, 2005, 02:38:52 PM
if you don't want to use someone else's bandwidth, set up a free account with imageshack http://www.imageshack.us/ (my personal favorite) or photobucket http://www.photobucket.com/

for any usasac fans who want a signature image (like the one at the bottom of my emails) or an avatar (like the one to the left), email me some good high res pics and clean logo's and i'll work on one for you as time allows...i did the one below for any cnu fans who want to use it...i'll keep it on my imageshack site through the weekend - if you want to use it, right click the image and save it to your hard-drive, then upload it to imageshack (or photobucket) to host it, then paste it in your signature (you can access this in your profile) using the bbc image code
Code Select
[img]image url[/img] - cnu fans, don't say i've never done anything for you!

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg395.imageshack.us%2Fimg395%2F8633%2Ffootballbanner3jl.jpg&hash=23c77a9b32b3a0ccec3645e674c022827c0d9006)

pat - has there been any consideration to limiting signature height?  i've been on message boards where people have signatures 500+ pixels tall and the signature takes up more space than the one line messages they type...annoying - just a thought
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 19, 2005, 02:54:40 PM
I've limited the signature space in terms of characters and in terms of the height of an image you can use (I think it's 150). But there are so many options in the administration section that I'm not sure I know what I'm doing. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 19, 2005, 03:08:47 PM
2 Weeks and 1 day until kick off. GOD I cant wait!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 19, 2005, 03:21:40 PM
pat - 150 is a good number...thanks for the info.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: su4life on August 20, 2005, 10:08:35 AM
does anyone know when the blue and white scrimmage is?



GO HORNETS
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: su4life on August 20, 2005, 10:10:53 AM
someone let me know how it turns out i cant make it. I hope we look flawless
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 20, 2005, 10:24:27 AM
I was told 1:15 .GO HORNETS!
Title: signature image
Post by: narch on August 20, 2005, 11:38:33 AM
here's a signature image for any su fans who want to use it...i'll keep it on imageshack for a few days - if you want to use it, save it to your hard drive and upload it to an image hosting service (like imageshack) - enjoy

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg380.imageshack.us%2Fimg380%2F6803%2Fsusig5et.gif&hash=614f86961228f43da4e9c673bb2ab02a89b87039)

here is an su avatar, if you want to use it
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg380.imageshack.us%2Fimg380%2F9131%2Fsuavatar5ky.png&hash=070b77ca3a158670c1801987753a47877782c15b)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnugrad2000 on August 21, 2005, 02:16:21 AM
Let's see if this works....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 21, 2005, 06:33:58 PM
grad - did your photobucket account re-size that or did you - if photobucket automatically re-sized it, try imageshack
Title: Test SHot
Post by: abnrgr on August 21, 2005, 11:33:23 PM
503 posts and 7.5 years of college down the drain :)
Title: New sign in
Post by: abnrgr on August 21, 2005, 11:38:35 PM
again 503 posts and 7.5 years debachery in college down the drain ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 22, 2005, 09:57:34 PM
the monarchs had a scrimmage vs. fuma (i think) today - offense moved the ball ok, then bogged down in both series i watched...i saw some formations i haven't seen in a few years out of the monarchs...interesting - defense was absolutely dominating on the 3 series i watched - fuma had negative 30+ yards on those drives and was 3 and out all 3 times - don't know what it means, but i know fuma is usu. loaded with d1 caliber athletes
Title: New Poll available
Post by: Ron Boerger on August 23, 2005, 09:37:21 AM
Just a quick note that I have created a new poll (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=3601.0) as to which South Region conference will go deepest in the playoffs.  You have to vote to see the results, so get in there and vote!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 23, 2005, 09:57:59 AM
Any news from scrimages for the usac?  My high school team played our first game this past week and got waxed by a good team...

Anyways roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 23, 2005, 11:04:28 AM
Is it 5:00 yet? I cant wait for all that info on D3 football!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: su4life on August 23, 2005, 11:57:35 AM
hey uncle jesse did you make it to the su scrimmage this past week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 23, 2005, 12:37:14 PM
Yeah I made it out to Aikens Field, I was impressed with some of the running backs. What worried me a lot was watching the punters and field goal kickers. One guy I think missed over half of the field goal kicks he was trying for. The guy the Hornets had the last two years is really going to be missed. Did you get out to the scrimmage?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on August 23, 2005, 02:51:58 PM
I agree, kicking may be a problem, l'll but as they concentrate on one kicker he will get the practice needed.  Let's just score 6 and then 2 and not worry about it.  Yes the running game looks strong with depth.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 23, 2005, 05:17:27 PM
I LOVE the D3 kickoff you guys put together Pat!!!! But what was up with that ranking for Shenandoah? OUCH!  :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on August 23, 2005, 05:21:43 PM
Glad you like it, Uncle Jessie.

Tell your friends about it.  Just don't tell them too much so they buy their own copy.  ;)

And you made a bit of history with your post.  Shenandoah will forever be remembered as the first school to complain about its coverage in the Kickoff Special.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 23, 2005, 05:26:01 PM
LOL :D Im glad to do my little part in D3 football!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 23, 2005, 05:31:42 PM
I read in the kickoff that CNU is getting a new field. Can anyone from CNU say what its like? Is it the type of turf called prescription athletic turf? I think Muhlenburg (sp)? has that type. I wish SU could get that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 23, 2005, 09:51:01 PM
I think it's a reasonable ranking based on what's left and such. All the teams ahead of Shenandoah are good.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on August 24, 2005, 08:15:29 AM
2005 Kickoff.  I was reading the USA South page and noticed that you had CNU with a 14-10 win over Shenandoah. Shenandoah won that game 14-10. I know that was last year and the game this year may very well be for the conference even though there will be conference games left. 
Title: kickoff
Post by: narch on August 24, 2005, 10:04:51 AM
pat - although i'm disappointed with the monarch's ranking...most notably below ehc, who mc beat 36-27 last season...the kickoff coverage is GREAT - if you haven't purchased it yet, plop down the cash and get it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on August 24, 2005, 10:36:29 AM
Hope everything is going good in Monarch camp. My first coaching game didnt turn out the way i wanted it to, but we will get there.  Cant wait to see how the Monarchs do this year.
Title: Re: kickoff
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 24, 2005, 10:40:03 AM
Quote from: narch on August 24, 2005, 10:04:51 AM
pat - although i'm disappointed with the monarch's ranking...most notably below ehc, who mc beat 36-27 last season...the kickoff coverage is GREAT - if you haven't purchased it yet, plop down the cash and get it!

If nothing had changed at EHC over the offseason we probably would have left Methodist ahead. :)

Glad you enjoyed it otherwise.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 24, 2005, 01:27:28 PM
pat - i understand...there is a lot of hype for the ehc coach (has he ever been a head coach?) - i personally think players win more games than coaches and it's not as though he is succeeding someone who didn't know how to coach (lou wacker was pretty good), but i guess when you have the kind of run that muc has had, success is assumed - unless montgomery brought in a lot more talent (which is entirely possible), i don't see ehc beating mc - we'll find out for sure on oct. 1 when the wasps come to town - i know that offense is going to be high-powered and that should be a fun game to watch

one of my favorite features of the kickoff is the compare teams feature - great to see them side by side and look at '04 records, returning starters, etc. - definately worth the $8.95 (or $4.95 if you have a .edu email addy) - hope the advertising helps :)

mc55ol - where are you coaching?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 24, 2005, 02:17:30 PM
pat - how do i post a poll within the usasac thread (or is it even possible)? thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on August 25, 2005, 11:31:58 AM
Narch, im coaching at White Oak, which is my old highschool. I will not be able to make it up to see the first game being its at SU, but im going to do everything i can to be there for the first home game. Im just happy real football season is around, the indoor game was fun, but i its just not the same. I wish i could be out there again....wonder if i can get a red shirt? Hmmm just wishful thinking, plus i dont wanna give the money back to the Guard haha. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 25, 2005, 02:36:35 PM
Narch:

I just saw that David Leonard is at Salisbury.  According to last seasons stats, he was second in rushing and total offence for the Monarchs.  Seems like the Sea Gulls got a gem with this transfer.  Additionally, I'm pretty sure Leonard will be "jacked up" for the season opener.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 25, 2005, 05:55:41 PM
yeah - salisbury didn't want anything to do with him when he was in hs, but after they saw him play against them, they got interested and he couldn't say no (in-state tuition) - he might be extra jacked, but he won't be playing much unless satchell gets hurt - i think the monarch offense will actually be BETTER without having to try and get so many rb's touches - mike hill and jeremy mcswain will get the lions share of the carries, and both are EXPLOSIVE athletes - hill averaged 6.8 ypc as a frosh last year...if the o-line gets together, the running game will be fine :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 26, 2005, 12:38:29 PM
MC55
New Bern coming into town tonight. I hope you guys rock them.

Title: USA South Pre-Season POTY
Post by: narch on August 26, 2005, 01:17:33 PM
pat - if you could move this to the usasac board, i'd appreciate it

each player has what i would term their "key stat" from the '04 season...who will it be?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: su4life on August 26, 2005, 08:35:08 PM
su takes on gettsyburg tomorrow good luck hornets!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on August 27, 2005, 11:23:44 AM
POTY - George Jones - CNU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on August 27, 2005, 11:39:17 AM
abnrgr.....someone got rocked.....but it wasnt New Bern.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 27, 2005, 05:16:45 PM
Anyone know how the scrimmage with SU and Gettysburg went?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on August 27, 2005, 05:58:51 PM
The SU scrimmage went the Gettysburg way.  Not sure of any score but I understand that Gettysburg kept their top D in the whole game.  No big deal. Good for the second O of SU to go up against the number one D.  They should be back at the school by now unless they stopped to eat.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: The UMO on August 28, 2005, 12:25:25 PM
test
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 28, 2005, 12:37:33 PM
Anyone know how the SU starting O looked yesterday? How did the young wide receivers look? Cant wait for next Saturday when the Hornets take on Catholic in D.C.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 28, 2005, 10:55:45 PM
For the CNU folk:
I've never been to the campus before, but I'm planning on heading up for the game against Rowan this weekend. What's the parking situation like around the stadium?

I know this question was asked here before we switched over to the new board, but I don't remember exacly what was said. Also, it should be mentioned that I don't know the area very well (I live on the southside of the HRBT).

Thanks for any help you guys can give. Good luck this weekend! I hope that you get some much deserved payback against the Beast of the East.
Title: Re: kickoff
Post by: K-Mack on August 29, 2005, 01:18:18 AM
One of us was also higher on Methodist than the other, though I'll let you figure out who was who.  ;)

I can remember them coming up quite a few times in discussion.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 24, 2005, 10:40:03 AM
Quote from: narch on August 24, 2005, 10:04:51 AM
pat - although i'm disappointed with the monarch's ranking...most notably below ehc, who mc beat 36-27 last season...the kickoff coverage is GREAT - if you haven't purchased it yet, plop down the cash and get it!

If nothing had changed at EHC over the offseason we probably would have left Methodist ahead. :)

Glad you enjoyed it otherwise.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 29, 2005, 09:16:03 AM
k-mack - thanks for the love...that's why they play the games - the ehc game should be a lot of fun to watch, but i'm hoping the monarchs can pull  the upset they SHOULD have pulled last year and beat the 'gulls this week! - GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on August 29, 2005, 09:30:53 AM
The parking sucks. Plain and simple. There is plenty of parking in the parking deck right behing the Ferguson Center for the Arts, but you have to walk a ways to get to the stadium from there.  Best bet is to turn into campus from Warwick Blvd onto University Place (light directly across from the CNU Village and on the same corner as The Freeman Center. Turn into there and park in any of those parking lots that are available, although they could be full, depending on what time you get there. Get off at J Clyde (258 A or B cant  remember but you DONT want the Yorktown exit). Stay on J Clyde, cross over Jefferson Ave, pass the hospital, turn right onto Warwick Blvd. Go to the third light I believe and turn into campus. If you need anything else, just email me thru my profile.

For the CNU folk:
I've never been to the campus before, but I'm planning on heading up for the game against Rowan this weekend. What's the parking situation like around the stadium?

I know this question was asked here before we switched over to the new board, but I don't remember exacly what was said. Also, it should be mentioned that I don't know the area very well (I live on the southside of the HRBT).

Thanks for any help you guys can give. Good luck this weekend! I hope that you get some much deserved payback against the Beast of the East.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on August 29, 2005, 12:11:11 PM
Narch you got that one right, the Monarchs should have won that game last yr. Hopefully they will get it done this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. xGSC on August 29, 2005, 12:54:36 PM
What is the over/under/spread on the RU v CNU game this week?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on August 29, 2005, 01:24:04 PM
mc55ol:

I know you USAC guys stick together, but here's hoping that the Gulls will have a nice cushion.  If I recall last years game was played "on a pond" will all the rain.  I hoping for great weather  so the running game can take off for the Gulls.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on August 29, 2005, 01:47:32 PM
Im going to say Rowan is the favorite by 4, over/under of about 45.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 29, 2005, 02:02:13 PM
njlincolnlion - last year is past history BUT...both teams played on the same field - in fact, i think ssu was better equipped to play on a sloppy field than the monarchs...they certainly had a better power running game than mc with satchell running up the gut - the biggest difference this year could prove to be d. johnson, who got hurt just before half-time last year (although he played a very ineffective 1st half) - if he stays healthy, the monarchs don't really have an answer for someone with his skill set - the monarchs just have to play assignment football and try to limit the big plays that ssu can rip off...much easier said than done, but i think the mc defense is better than they were last year and i've heard the offense is more balanced, so far...we'll see on sat!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GTDREW on August 29, 2005, 02:06:48 PM
Trying to get back on here, and make a few posts.  Still in the other I (IOWA) but will try to keep in touch.  By the way, my old profile did not work not sure what's going on.  Go Monarchs!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on August 29, 2005, 04:11:25 PM
The Roanoke Times did an article on Ferrum in the Aug 26 paper:

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/collegepreview/30695.html

(sorry if someone already posted this)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 29, 2005, 04:34:15 PM
Goose: Thank you for the parking info!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on August 30, 2005, 08:58:00 AM
Anytime. Its a struggle, believe me, parking at CNU is the worst and it doesnt seem to be getting any better in the near future.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 30, 2005, 10:27:42 PM
monarch preview (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2005preview.htm)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on August 30, 2005, 11:53:02 PM
Ready Ready Monarchs!!!!!

Season is just around the corner. Narch, have you made it to see any practices? If the oline has a solid year, then so will the Monarchs!

Hey DD, you need to make it up for a game this year. Ill drag Foster with me. No excuses!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 31, 2005, 01:52:10 PM
mc55ol - i haven't had a chance to get to any practices, although i did see 3 or 4 series of the scrimmage vs. fuma- i saw enough to know that the defense is going to be better - i love northern as a full-time starter...he's got a great motor and spent a ton of time in the opposition backfield when he was in the game last year - i've been a big fan of roberts upside all along, and it seems like he might finally put it all together...he looked dominant against fuma's huge o-line and he COULD be an all-conf type player - kyle smith starting at the other tackle is a bit surprising, but he's a big, athletic kid - the db's looked very fast and taller than i can remember in recent years - maybe we've got some guys that will be able to stop the fade around the goal-line - that was very frustrating to see the last few years - i like the lb's, especially hyslop and lawrence, who i think was a bit overlooked with jean-claude, hyslop and shaw last year...he could really step up as a soph and be a leader on and off the field - he's bright, athletic and has good size - i like his game a lot (and he's a white oak grad, right?)

the offense looked solid, but they didn't pull out the whole package...no option or spread and even a few plays out of the i, which surprised me somewhat...very vanilla - the o-line seemed to be getting good push against a very big d-line and i don't recall seeing any sacks - the concern that i have is how quickly the line gels and comes together...hopefully before saturday, but more importantly, before sept. 24

rocket getting some love in the pre-season poty poll...i hope that comes true!

GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on August 31, 2005, 11:03:22 PM
It's good to hear that those guys are off to a pretty good start.  Yeah Lawrence is a white oak guy. He was a big time D1 prospect, but blew out his knee his senior yr of hs. He is just now getting back to 100%. He should do big things for MC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 01, 2005, 10:01:08 PM
inside methodist football (http://www.futuremediaworld.com/methodist.htm) webcast - coach sy talks about camp and ssu - some good stuff for monarch fans (and football fans in general)

where are all the cnu fans?  you guys are kinda quite since the players have all gone - good luck to the capts. this week - if the monarchs can pull the upset and cnu can finish off rowan, it would be 2 top 25 wins for the usasac - i'll have week one predictions on friday
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 01, 2005, 11:37:42 PM
Birdman, you know I'm gonna try.  For now looks like I may be heading down south.  I've got my name on the list to go down to NOLA and just waiting for the paperwork to clear. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on September 01, 2005, 11:49:11 PM
DD,

I figured you would be on the first thing smoking heading that way. My prayers go out to those people.

Narch,

Most of those posters were current CNU players, so you know they will not be posting much. Lets hope for another season of big wins for the USASouth in non conf play!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on September 02, 2005, 08:17:37 AM
It's starts again tomorrow.  I should have the pictures of the Catholic - Shenandoah game posted on Sunday.  I will try to get them up earlier if possible.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 02, 2005, 08:30:34 AM
fayetteville observer monarch preview (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=columnists&Story=7149177)

mc55ol - i hope the trash on this board this summer didn't run some of the cnu fans who have posted in the past off...it's fun to see their enthusiasm...maybe someday it will be more than a few monarch fans holding down the fort on this board for mc (it would help if mc won a championship or two)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: time_of_day on September 02, 2005, 08:50:27 AM
Been a year or two since I've posted....this board got kind of ridiculous.  I got pretty embarrassed with some of the CNU posters. 

1 day to go.  Should be fun year.  I am up in Mass. now so not many USAC games for me this year. 

Hopefully CNU gets the home playoff game over Thankgiving so I can get to a game this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on September 02, 2005, 10:41:57 AM
Narch,

Your right about one thing, if MC won a championship or two, the people would be comming out of the wood works. Not that i would complain that much, because support helps build quality programs. I just wish that more Fayetteville area people would come and support the team.  One thing that did suprise me about playing for the Guard this year was how many people would come up to me and mention something about MC, but i cant recall ever seeing them at any games. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballjoe on September 02, 2005, 11:05:57 AM
how is the injury bug at the monarchs.  how many walking wounded do they have and are there any serious injuries?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on September 02, 2005, 12:06:33 PM
CNU gets it done this year against Rowan....34-31!

Good luck to all the other USAC teams playing tomorrow!

GO CAPS!
Title: week 1 predictions
Post by: narch on September 02, 2005, 02:27:30 PM
wesley 38 - ferrum 17 - wolverines should be pretty good this season, too much offense for young and improving panthers

ncwc 24 - nna 16 - bishops get a "w" in week one against the builders

m'ville 31 - averett 28 (ot) - just a hunch that m'ville will be better than most usasac folks think and they get usasac win #1 out of the way in week 1

cnu 31 - rowan 30 - this is a pick-'em game to me...cnu gets redemption with a last second fg to win by one at home

ssu 38 - mc 31 - as much as i'd LIKE to see a monarch "w" in week one, and as much as i know it's possible, i think there will be too much d. johnson for the monarch defense to handle

[SIZE=24PT]GO MONARCHS![/size]
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2005, 02:38:26 PM
Narch:

I agree with your predictions except for two of them.  I think TCNJ will narrowly defeat CNU and Wesley plays at DePauw, in Greencastle, IN.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2005, 02:43:18 PM
Narch:

Make that Rowan over CNU  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 02, 2005, 06:38:50 PM
I just wanted to say good luck to CNU tomorrow! I'm among the minority pulling for them on one of my pick-em boards. I hope the Captains prove me right.

This'll be the first game I've ever seen at Pomoco. I hope it's a good one and that everyone stays healthy (although it's fine to make Rowan hurt quite a bit for the next couple of days ;) ).

Normally, my eyes would be focused on Ferrum, but with the buzz in Newport News, I can't pass up the chance to say !!Go Captains!! this one time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 02, 2005, 09:57:12 PM
njlincolnlion - sorry on the wesley thing...the usasac website (http://www.usasouth.net/developer/daily_report2.php) says wesley plays ferrum...guess that should teach me to get my info. anywhere but the "best source for division iii football information" :)

in that case
ferrum 31 - gcq 17 - quackers will probably be better than last year, but still not good enough to beat panthers
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 02, 2005, 10:02:04 PM
njlincolnlion - i heard that d. leonard wasn't anywhere to be found on the ssu 2 deep and i saw on the roster that he was listed as a SL (slot back?...i'm assuming that's the same as a wing back?) rather than an SB (superback, right?) - i gotta be honest, if that's where leonard is playing, either he's a lot faster than he was as a monarch or ssu wants a big, physical wingback (they are usually quick, shifty players...but i'm just a fan, so what do i know) - i've heard that the monarchs shifted a former tailback to fullback and have been pretty happy with the results - he's not big, but gives the team a dimension leonard didn't...the ability to break a big one from the fb position...we'll see
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 02, 2005, 11:08:22 PM
COME ON CNU PULL OUT ONE FOR THE GUYS THAT CANT PLAY ANYMORE. YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT I WOULD DO TO COME AROUND THAT CORNER ONE MORE TIME AND MAKE A QB FEEL IT. PLAY HARD AND DEFEND HOME.

AS ALWAYS WE WILL BE WATCHING.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on September 03, 2005, 12:29:44 AM
I just dont see  leonard playing a wingback type position! He is a quick guy, but he doesnt have that type of speed.

Lets go Monarchs bring home a W!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on September 03, 2005, 09:31:08 AM
I'm glad everyone is so optimistic. I'm not, but don't have many hard facts as to why, mostly gut feel and a few facts.

Gut feel - CNU loses big to Rowan. After 4 games is 2-2. But finishes at 8-2 and a top 10-15 ranking. My reason? - O and D lines. Especially the O line - it takes awhile for these guys to mesh as a unit. With 4 new starters (rumor has it 5 new starters today) it will take a few games to get it going and Rowan is not the team you want to start off against.

Facts - a few starters will not start today. And this one hurts - Gary Freeman was called up Friday to active duty to head to New Orleans.  FRIDAY - he was called up FRIDAY!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 03, 2005, 09:35:42 AM
Oh Come on CNU85, can't you help me out!  I picked CNU in the NJAC Pick 'em...can't you give me some good news? lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on September 03, 2005, 09:41:27 AM
Bport...what can I say? I'm usually optimistic..but as I age I have become realistic...it sucks....

besides, my dad used to live in B'port.....so I know there's not much for you to do other than post on the board and watch the corn grow....LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: pg04 on September 03, 2005, 10:09:29 AM
Hey,

I don't live there anymore...I live in West Palm Beach Florida now...and my handle used to be portgrad2004 until everything changed...no more watching corn for me...Now it's ducking hurricanes and walking sandy beaches...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2005, 10:44:59 AM
it's official...the monarchs will lose today...sammy batten from the fayetteville observer (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=columnists&Story=7151209) picked them to win 27-21 :) (note that he picked navy over maryland and clemson over tx a&m...i know navy is better than they've been recently and clemson is dangerous, but i don't see EITHER of those happening) - seriously, though, i like the love sammy is giving the monarchs and hope that he's right and i'm wrong

'85 - welcome back!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2005, 01:40:42 PM
end of 1st quarter - ssu 7 - mc 7 - monarchs get a punt block and hill punches it in - good work, boys
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2005, 01:56:11 PM
some fireworks in salisbury - monarchs get a long td, roncketti to doleman, then westbrook returns the ensuing kickoff to the 8 - defense holds ssu to a fg (barely) - mc up 14-10
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2005, 02:15:08 PM
too much satchell on that drive - ssu up 17-14 - roncketti may be hurt as he wasn't in the last 2 plays of the previous mc drive
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: time_of_day on September 03, 2005, 02:28:45 PM
7-6 CNU over Rowan at the half. 
Rowan dominating statistically.  3 TO's for the Profs.  Missed EP and 2 missed FG's for the Profs as well. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2005, 02:29:00 PM
ssu up 24 - 14 - roncketti def. missed the last 2 series for the monarchs - that's not good news for mc - sounded like the wind came out of the monarch sails when rocket went out - let's hope he's back for the 2nd half - GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 03, 2005, 02:35:32 PM
halftime: NNA 23, NCWC 7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 03, 2005, 04:36:16 PM
Final
NNA 37, NCWC 21
NCWC: Javon Williams 18c-150yds-2TD
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 03, 2005, 04:51:48 PM
Final:

Averett 31 Maryville 28.

Schwan was hurt right before the half, did not play the
second half but the Maryville announcers did not report how
bad the injury is so I don't know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2005, 05:10:51 PM
usasac taking some lumps today - looks like the monarchs took it on the chin, 48-28 - i was unable to listen to the second half to see if rocket got back in the game - sounds like the cnu score could have been even worse if rowan hadn't made some mistakes - su struggles to beat catholic and is out-gained by almost 100 yards - ncwc loses by 16 to nna - no word on ferrum/gcq - tough opening weekend, but averett has to be feeling good with a 1-0 conference mark right now :)

let's regroup and get this thing right - the monarchs get the quackers next week - we'll see if the ecu transfer qb is the real deal or not - GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on September 03, 2005, 05:29:43 PM
Shenandoah 12 Catholic 0 - Final

Not a good game for either team, although SU defense controlled the line on runs and the Punter #23 was excellant for giving Catholic poor field position.  Catholic changed out the QB a lot and had some good early plays and then again on their last drive against a prevent defense.  I don't know what it was supposed to prevent.  A 65(70) yard punt to the seven of Catholic lead to a sack in the endzone.  SU needs more variety with the running game and the passing was not as strong as you would like. First game jitters I think.  Pretty clean game overall.  Catholic lost a TD near the end of the game when the catch was ruled incompleted, no possesion before going out of the endzone.   SU intercepted twice, none for Catholic, no fumbles lost by either team. Only fumble I saw was a bad exchange between the QB and Center late in the game by SU. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2005, 07:10:27 PM
ferrum rolled guilford 41-7...that offense looks like it's in mid-season form

rocket didn't play in the second half, but frosh bartee played well...150+ passing, 40 rushing - defense did not show up, allowing 500+ yards and 380+ rushing (johnson had 18 for 150)

box score (http://www.salisbury.edu/athletics/football/Boxes2005/SAL-FB01.asp#GAME.NEW)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on September 03, 2005, 08:06:22 PM
SU pictures our there now.  Not as good as they will be in the future. Had to use a small digital camera with a limited zoom.  More close up shots next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on September 03, 2005, 08:34:02 PM
Enjoy the pics.  They'll get better.  When I'm really organized again I'll even have some video clips now and then.  By the way I thought our defense did come to play and this was a good game to build those skills.  The QBs of Catholic will be a force and showed that today with some crisp passes. But our guys were always near the receivers and made some great stops.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 03, 2005, 09:52:40 PM
Way to go Hornets!!!  Great game from the defense. I cant wait to see what they do once they really get going as a unit. The freshman kicker that played today I was VERY IMPRESSED with. He made a 32 yarder with plenty to spare. Im sure he was nervous as all get out for the young guy, I'm sure we will see a lot more from him in the future. Next week is going to be a big test for the Hornets as usual against Bridgewater. Last year SU dominated Bridgewater in stats. But because of lousy special teams the game was out of hand. Good luck to you next week guys.
P.S. To the D3.COM guys. Are you going to make the Bridgewater/SU game the game of the week like last year? Shentel should be a wild place in the valley once again. Last year we had almost 8,000 fans.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2005, 10:26:11 PM
ok - apparently there is some confusion about wether rocket played in the 2nd half...can anybody listening tell me?  the press release says he was 15-31 for 222 yards and the box score from the ssu site is different than it was earlier showing those same numbers and none for bartee...i know the announcers said that chris missed the last few series of the 1st half??? - this could be great news, despite the loss - if anyone has any insight, it would be much appreciated

game story (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/salisbury.htm)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 03, 2005, 11:13:17 PM
Where are all the CNWHO posters in here? This was brought up once before either in here or in D3HOOPS that when the Caps win all the CNWHO fans are all over this web site . But when they lose they hide. Come on guys I love reading the excuses of why the great and mighty CNU lost. Last year it was because of the kicker and the refs. What are you going to blame todays on?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 03, 2005, 11:50:50 PM
Uncle Jessica get a grip. A lot of CNU posters stopped posting on this board weeks ago, thus the reason the board room got a little dull. And please oh please don't get us started on your girls again. Lets see CNU played the #7 team in the D3 for its first game of the year. Your girls played a team that hasn't won 7 games in the last 3 years, so in other words don't make any comments about CNU or who we lost to. Because bottom line is today you beat a nobody 12-0. Yeah you guys are really getting prepared to make a run deep in the playoffs. Just worry about what happens when you ladies come back to Pomoco.

P.S. Congrats on beating Catholic ,I would imagine that you guys will be playing on ESPN next week for pulling out that win. I saw clips of the great upset flashing on D3 football.com. Pat said that he will fly out to the Valley and collect some game film to run clips all week on this site, so everyone in the D3 nation can see how the mighty Hornets pulled off a more shocking victory than TCU beating Oklahoma.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnugrad2000 on September 04, 2005, 12:20:37 AM
Tough loss today for the Captains. Gotta get the offense in gear and help the defense out by keeping them on the sidelines a bit longer!

No big deal, though. Based on the previous four seasons, losing the season opener seems to be a good omen. We'll get healthy next week and then it's time to gear up for Salisbury and Shenandoah.

Cnusfinest, I know beating Catholic isn't that impressive, but we shouldn't talk too much smack about Shenandoah until we start consistently beating them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 04, 2005, 01:12:29 AM
Narch
So is Rocket Dude hurt or what?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 04, 2005, 02:04:43 AM
True CNUGrad but the history of football tells me otherwise.  Sometimes for some unknown reason a lesser talented team like SU sometimes just has a better team like CNU # from time to time. But bottom line is combined with the three losses we have had against SU in the past, how many people that follow D3 football closely feel that SU is a better team than CNU.

SU can't seem to beat Gboro neither,  their only conference win came against the mighty Hornets last year. So in other words  sometimes SH-t happens. :o   But CNU is still better hands down.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 04, 2005, 08:14:44 AM
Awwww, did I hit a nerve cnwhofinest??? You need to learn to take a joke when it comes to posting on when I wrote about how the room is dead when CNU has lost for the day.  But bottom line is you guys are nowhere in site when your team loses. You guys also have an excuse for every loss. What's the excuse for yesterdays game? I still haven't seen that one.  And Where did I say or write that SU is a lot better then CNWHO? You wrote don't get you started. Well, Im getting you started. Since you say don't get us started on "the girls" well what dose it say about your team getting stopped at the goal line a few times last season by a bunch of girls? CNWHO< CNWHO<CNWHO!!!!!

Now jokes aside to all CNU fans that went to the game. What in the world did happen yesterday for Rowan to gain over 600 yards but only get 21 points? Also how did your marching band look? Did you all get one started this season? I thought I read that you were but havent heard much about it in awhile.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: JT on September 04, 2005, 10:05:17 AM
WEWIN,

Nice meeting you guys yesterday.  It was a good game.  CNU kept fighting and stayed in it.  Rowan usually has a hard time getting in gear right out of the gate.  Had me a little worried.

See you guys next year or in the playoffs whichever comes first.  Good luck the rest of the way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on September 04, 2005, 10:40:07 AM
Cooter,

CNU did about as much bending as a team can do yesterday w/out breaking....that's how.  This game boiled down to Rowan's dominance in the trenches.  As JT mentioned, CNU hung in there, but you can only dodge so many bullets.

By the way, we'll see what you have to say after SU visits Pomoco.

GO CAPS! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on September 04, 2005, 10:53:00 AM
Another thought....

I think Ferrum's going to be tough this year.  They were a lot better than their record last year, where they lost several close ones.  I wouldn't be surprised to see them go to E&H next weekend and beat them pretty badly.  Well, I guess we'll see what happens....

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2005, 01:03:56 PM
Thanks for the invite. I don't know right now what game we will feature but for the moment I am planning on attending the Catholic/Augustana game because how often do I get to see a team like Augustana in my backyard?

I'll try to negotiate with my mother-in-law to see if I can get her to watch the kids so I can do both, but she did that yesterday too and I don't want to overreach.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 04, 2005, 09:10:55 PM
Swish
Ferrum as a general rule is tough; however, they beat Guilford who had new systems in, new coaches, (players from Iron Mike Ketchum's days) and no running game. Guilford was in the red zone 4 times and failed to score 3 times. They put the  ball on the ground 3 times. They have the smallest o-line in the ODAC. They do not have a swivel hip tailback. They did throw for about 250 yards. So predicated on this info I believe EH is about a +2. I smell an "upset". EH will beat them.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 05, 2005, 09:06:20 AM
i have some clarification on the rocket "injury" situation - he was never hurt - his jersey was ripped, he took a play off to switch jersey's with the 3rd string qb and returned wearing bartee's number...very good news for monarch fans!

abnrgr - your quackers are on the clock...tick-tock!

GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on September 05, 2005, 09:24:12 AM
abnrgr,

I wasn't basing my comments about Ferrum on Saturday's win against Guilford, who we all know is pretty bad.  They played us tough last year in Newport News and, as I mentioned before, lost several close ones.  I just have a hunch....

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 05, 2005, 01:57:16 PM
ok, so it's monday after week one and only two teams in the usasac are really feeling REALLY good about themselves right now...ferrum, who rolled gcq, and g'boro, who didn't play

the hornets won ugly against a team that was 0-10 last year, and were outgained by over 100 yards - next up is a very angry bridgewater team that lost after being up big at 1/2 time

the captains gave up over 600 yards to rowan and only had 17 yards rushing on 26 attempts...wow

the monarchs got throttled by ssu to the tune of 588 yards, but they did put up some solid offensive numbers, and hey, roncketti wasn't injured :)

averett won, but they may have lost swann for a prolonged period (possibly the season...but that is PURE SPECULATION)

m'ville lost their conference opener and gets to travel to cnu for a consolation prize

ncwc lost to nna...

let's hope week 2 is a little better for the conference
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Three Sails on September 05, 2005, 08:22:44 PM
Observations from the Captains game last Saturday...........

D gave up over 600 yards but there were few really big plays - the curl routes and four wide receiver sets hurt CNU all day long.  Rowan kept CNU in the game with missed FG and turnovers. 

Doubt it would have made a big difference in the outcome but LB Gary Freeman was missed big time (he got called up to Reserve duty for hurricane relief on Friday).  Rowan completed a number of passes just in front of the LBs.  Also CNU missed four other players due to suspensions for team rules violations.

O-line will need to gel - defense was on the field way too long because the running game could not get going.  Too few holes to run through.  Offense could not sustain drives (CNU scored 14 points on a short drive with 45 yard TD reception and a kickoff return) and that put too much pressure on the defense. 

Size matters - for Rowan height among receivers and weight on the line will make them hard to defeat.  They do seem to rely on the QB's arm a bit much - but that was what was working for them.  Expect to see them playing in December.

CNU gamble to go on fourth down early in 4thQ hurt big time.  Put the defense out there yet again with limited rest. 

Great burst of speed by Mike O'Brian on the TD catch - he could be a nice complement to Nathan Davis who had a nice day (8 grabs for 100+ yds). 

Captains will be fine - they have tremendous depth (and speed) among the specialist and new personnel on the line should come together. 

This was a good learning experience for the Captains who will bounce back quickly as in previous years.  Also a good measuring stick to see where they stack up nationally.  This test will pay off come playoff time.   



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 05, 2005, 09:47:20 PM
three sails - great username - i like the spin, but i've gotta disagree - give me 588 yards with a 5 or 6 big plays vs. 600+ with sustained drives 8 days a week - a team that gives up big plays can make adjustments and corrections...big plays are usually indicative of busted coverage, blown assignments or a qb who spins out of 3 tackles (as johnson for ssu did against mc on his 51 yard run) - those things can be fixed, to a degree - sustained drives, to me, mean you've got problems that are bigger than coaching guys up and correcting a few mental mistakes - if i were a captain fan, the numbers 17/26 would bother me tremendously, too, regardless of the competition

all that being said, i think rowan will sustain drives on a LOT of teams this year, and the monarchs might have given up 700+ - that qb is the real deal, and sakeen wright was a contributor at a d1 (ecu)...but we're talking about 2 programs with different expectations - cnu fans should expect to compete nationally, while mc fans HOPE to compete nationally - right now, i don't think either team is there, but i do think the capts. are closer than the monarchs - i'll be interested to see how the capts fare against ssu in a few weeks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 05, 2005, 10:46:35 PM
The bottom line is the Captains are really young up front on the D line and the O line. I don't care who you play for but when you loose your whole front lines it will be a growing process for any team.  Rowan has a really good team again and I was extremly proud of how the defense played. I was also proud of how Soph Mike O' Brian AKA MOB made a big time play to put our team ahead. To all the young Captains congratulations you got your first taste of college football. Another treat about your first game is that you also got a taste of a playoff semi final team while others where eating cupcakes. No offense to Maryville but this week should be a lot easier for the Captains.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 06, 2005, 12:15:06 AM
Swish
I did not imply anything negative about your comment. Normally (historically) Ferrum and Guilford play each other close. Good luck......

Narch-You are such a sociopath ;D. Stirring up the masses with the tick tick. I imagine you will score 41 points this week. 

Now I got to get back to work
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 06, 2005, 08:21:13 AM
cnusfinest
QuoteI was extremly proud of how the defense played

really  ???

i wasn't proud of how the monarch defense played this weekend, and i expect more out of them, not just because they are playing guilford this weekend, but because they have to do more if the monarchs are going to contend this season

it's quacker week...GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 06, 2005, 01:06:06 PM
Nice...

  Roll Pride...

Nice
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 06, 2005, 01:50:28 PM
Anyone that wants to look at the SU/BC game note here they are.
http://www.su.edu/athletics/fb/fbgamenotes05.pdf

p.s. how much longer are we going to look at this poll at the top of the page?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 06, 2005, 02:03:20 PM
Well, what I've been doing is locking a poll after people stop voting and letting the results sit for a couple days so everyone gets to see them.

I believe I locked this one yesterday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 06, 2005, 04:28:20 PM
congratulations on the two hornets on getting the POW and rookie awards this week.  http://www.su.edu/athletics/hornets_news.cfm?spid=962
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 08, 2005, 12:09:20 PM
TEN DAYS TIL LOSS #2 CNU...YOU BETTER DO SOMETHING WITH THAT DEFENSE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN

#56
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 08, 2005, 12:41:32 PM
Ill second that.  I think Salisbury could be a special team this year.  They have come along way since I first played them about 6 yrs ago.  That qb, dustin is a talented kid...


Anyways, Im hoping to see the Gboro game this weekend in charlotte but am not sure yet if ill make it.

Does NC Wes play at home this week?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 08, 2005, 01:54:13 PM
muhammed - no need to shout :) 

i never thought i'd say this, but i miss the cnu FANS that posted on this board regularly in the past - this board has become quite dead recently - maybe mr. hussainy can wake it up with his shouting :)

week 2 predictions from me on friday - i missed cnu, averett and ncwc and was right on mc and ferrum...40% isn't exactly getting it done

mosh - how's the high school team doing (northern nash, right?)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on September 08, 2005, 03:17:40 PM
I guess some us just dont check the board as often because we have jobs and lives and that sort of thing.  ;D  I really have nothing to say. These team is different this year on defense. They need to step and make some plays. I know the lose of Gary Freeman hasnt made things any easier, but you have to treat it like an injury and move and hope someone can fill his shoes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 08, 2005, 05:21:14 PM
Sounds like Dr. Seagull is still a little bitter from last year. I guess you can still see your boys laying flat lined on that playoff table huh. You did the best you could Doc  ;D . You told your boys all about your stories of how your Gulls have never lost to the Captains and about how you were the first guys to ever beat us. The only thing you forgot was that those same freshmen your Gulls beat in 01 grew up and their game and their heart got a lot better. Yeah we know DJ and your boy Satchell will be coming back for revenge but the bottom line is we sent them packing last year. Win or loose the Captains will be playing the week after. See you guys in the playoffs. The Captains are young but they will be just fine.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 08, 2005, 09:12:57 PM
Good news for all Hornet and Eagle fans. According to the Winchester Star today Shenandoah will be putting in temporary bleachers for Saturdays game. SU and the Star think the crowd could top last years record of 7,436. GO HORNETS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 09, 2005, 12:56:29 PM
Narch,
  We stand at 1-2.  Lost to Beddingfield in week one. They are atop a three a poll in the state.  And we lost last week in the last 50 sec becuase we missed a fg in the game earlier.. I do have some solid kids though.  6-7 300 pound de(jr)  that is recieving interest from uva.  Also our rb/lb has had interest from ga tech, nc st, and vtech i think..Our depth is killing us a little because we dont have any but we have some skilled kids in a wide open offense. 

cnu over maryville by 17
Wesley over Averett by 20
Ferrum over E&H by 6
NC wes over SoVa by 10
Methodist over Guilford by 24
BC over Su by 28

Biased -Greensboro over Davidson by 3

First game I have seen Gboro play since my college career ended...ROLL PRIDE!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 09, 2005, 02:02:34 PM
mosh - keep pluggin' away with those boys - i'm sure you've got some athletes...teach them how to be football players and you'll be alright

predictions
cnu 35 - m'ville 17 - welcome to the usasac, m'ville
wesley 49 - au 13 - add 10 points to the au score if swann plays...unfortunately he doesn't play defense, and wesley is pretty good
ferrum 31 - ehc 24 - ehc has a great qb, but struggled to put up points in game 1...fc has running game rolling downhill already - ferrum goes to 2-0 in the odac
ncwc 42 - sova 10 - williams will have a field day with the sova defense...i'm a little iffy on picking them to score 10 points...could be a shutout
b'water 35 - su 19 - b'water is NOT catholic and is NOT happy about letting a 30+ point 1/2 time lead slip away last week
davidson 21 - gc 17 - you never know what type of team davidson will have...one thing they are, though, is smart
mc 48 - gcq 21 - monarch offense takes another step, but defense continues to struggle...gc chunked the ball around a bit in week one and monarchs will capitalize on a few mistakes - mike hill will have a breakout game (i'm predicting 120+ yards)

my record as it stands after week 1: 2-5

GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 09, 2005, 06:29:48 PM
Narch
Be careful tommorrow. One of those Quackers might look at you REALLY mean. GC laid the ball on the ground 3 times but threw it around for 250 yds+. 250 is probably a Ricca (ala HSC) 1st quarter but for them.....

They do have a better understanding for what it takes to win but I'll give you +18 if Rocket is off. If he is on and breaks contain on the OLBs for which I have seen him do twice it may be a blowout.

MC55 Good luck tonight you Viking you

Mosh told me the real GC was going to lay wood to you guys
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 10, 2005, 12:19:39 PM
High School record is at 2-2 now.  1 point from 3-1.  We beat a good hertford county team last night.

Abngr...You always get me with the GC thing.  That is what we always called Greensboro College.  Anyways Hope everything is well...

Getting ready to make the trip to Charlotte to see the Pride for the first time since playing... >:Roll PRIDE!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 10, 2005, 05:00:51 PM
monarchs 42 - gcq 25 - sounded like monarchs had some difficulty on the defensive end, but offense had some big plays
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnugrad2000 on September 10, 2005, 06:20:08 PM
CNU got well today in a big way....

I didn't expect Maryville to win, but I did expect them to score!

Captains 53
Maryville 2 (safety on a CNU holding penalty in the endzone)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on September 10, 2005, 07:20:41 PM
Well sounds like the D struggled a little bit, but a win is a win.

abnrgr: We have the Rams this week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 10, 2005, 09:23:39 PM
Is Ferrum the real deal this year?! I suppose that no one will know for sure until Sept. 24 rolls around, but wow, they've sure shredded their first two teams of season.

I know that Guilford isn't much to boast about, but E&H certainly has never been bottom of the barrel. Nice game Ferrum! Keep up the streak.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 10, 2005, 09:41:14 PM
Good win for the Monarchs today!  Sounds like Rocket had the boys on the offensive side of the ball firing on all cylinders!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 10, 2005, 09:51:28 PM
big day for the rocket, hill (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/guilford.htm) - rocket 7-12 for 122 and a td and 79 yards rushing and 2 td's - hill goes for 181 (that would be the 120+ that i predicted) and 2 td's - 2 weeks to get the defense right before j. williams and the battlin' bishops come to town

box score (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2005%20Stats/mc0910.htm#GAME.IND)

GO MONARCHS!

p.s. - way to rebound capts. - that was a DOMINANT performance today...wow
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 10, 2005, 10:00:15 PM
Narch, your picks for Week 2 were damn good.

Granted, I'm not sure the Greensboro results are in, but otherwise your score predictions were better than most bookies could've thrown together.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnugrad2000 on September 10, 2005, 10:11:58 PM
Bridgewater 49
Shenandoah 20

SU's radio team is terrible. They're crying about the score getting run up by the BC 2nd- and 3rd-team.

Get it together guys....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on September 10, 2005, 10:20:37 PM
Not sure what to say about the CNU/Maryville game today. Other than the first quarter took almost an hour and 26 points later to complete. Not much offense as far as numbers are concerned.  Defense stepped it up today only giving up around 70 yards or so. Good to know the last two weeks evened out.  Huge game this coming weekend against Salisbury. Need the complete package for the Gulls.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 10, 2005, 10:32:19 PM
 :D :D ;D Ha Ha Ha. What a difference a week makes. Last week SU beat some scrubs 12-0 nothing and they were all giggdy giggdy. This week they played a very suspect Bwater team(compared to the ones in recent years) and they got smacked around. What was the final tally on the capacity crowd for this years Bwater loss. HA HA. O yeah the Captains welcomed Maryville to the USA South but you dont see to many Captains on here bragging. No offense Maryville but they are not that talented. Beat another good team besides CNU and then you will get the respect you think you deserve. But until then  ;D ;D ;D Ha Ha.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on September 10, 2005, 10:55:44 PM
Box score only reads 4910. What happed to the 7500?? Not trying to be catty or anything, but several people said that you were expecting a larger crowd then last year's game, just curious.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 10, 2005, 11:14:29 PM
grad2000 - i have to agree on the su radio crew - they are the biggest whiners i've ever heard

goose - then and than are not interchangeable words :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 10, 2005, 11:14:55 PM
With a combination of no tackling defense, costly turnovers and stupid penalties from SU It equals a huge butt kicking. No excuses for SU. They got out played. Here are some quotes from the radio (95.3 FM) that sum's it up for the Hornets play. And these are the nice things they were saying by the way; 1."The offense line is not firing off the line of scrimmage at all. The coach needs to take out each and every player on the field and put in some others that have some hart because the guys that are out their right now have given up "2. "The defense is just standing on the field and they are not even trying to tackle" 3. "Each year SU likes to measure themselves on how far they have come against BC. This year they don't belong on the same field as BC." 4. "I have seen better tackling in a flag football game." I agree with those quotes 100%. But the one that is the most important is about the play at the end of the game. BC killed SU. No question about it. But they had the ball for the final play of the game and instead of taking a kneel to end the game they run off a play to run up the score. That is uncalled for. Everyone around me in the stands were upset and when I got in my car I heard how upset the guys were on the radio also. Here is what they said on this. " Its like rubbing salt in the wound on the Hornets. It shows what a piece of trash the BC coach is for doing that and one day some where its going to come back on BC. Maybe it wont be SU that will do it to them but that is un called for and one day some team is going to do it to them. " The head coach from BC is trash for doing that. These are college students NOT PROFESSIONALS. They had no reason for doing that. I don't fault the BC players for this. They are just running the play that was called. Its the head coach that did that all the way. One day as long as Barnes is the head coach, SU is going to remember this and it wont be pretty.  They had the game won by a long shot. Purely a trash move on the BC side. Good luck to the Hornets next week. I hope they can get things back on track after this week. As for the attendance of 4,910 I cant believe it. The place was just as packed as last year. Fans were standing all along the fence. I have no idea how that # came into existence. Everyone including the Winchester Star was thinking the crowd was going to be just as big and maybe even bigger. I think the Student that was in charge or counting the tickets had to had given up because the place was packed. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 10, 2005, 11:16:47 PM
Uncle Jessie, if I can ever fight my way through your incredibly long paragraph I'll take time to comment on whatever you might have said.

Seriously, try breaking it up a little.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 10, 2005, 11:19:23 PM
Narch, being a whiner and telling it like it was on the field are two different things. The radio crew was not making any excuse for the BC butt kicking. Simply saying that the facts are that the Hornets did not show up to play on the same level that BC was on. I'm glad they are not the GO,GO homers so many radio station are.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 10, 2005, 11:21:00 PM
Will do PAt. Sorry about it. I was Just So worked up and needed to say what the radio crew was saying and how it was wrong what the BC guy did.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on September 10, 2005, 11:33:21 PM
narch-
   Ask me if i care grammar boy about than and then.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 10, 2005, 11:39:05 PM
Goose are you ready for some fantasy football?? Good luck to ya in the league this year. Last year it came down to yours and my own team. Also good luck to ya in the fantasy baseball playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 11, 2005, 12:20:11 AM
Narch
I was close on the 18 points huh. Were you there? I did not listen on the radio because I was at the AF- SDSU game. AF has some athletes this year.

Is GC going to stay pitiful or did they show any spark of having testicles? "Talk to me Mav".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 11, 2005, 12:37:41 AM
AUncle Jessie can you say Im on a high horse when I beat a horrible Catholic team 12-0 and then I get pimped slapped into D3 reality when a play a good team from the same conference. Its kind of funny how Bwater dropped us because they said that they wanted easier competition before their HSC show down. But looking at the 49-20 score from your game I don't think you guys will ever have that problem with them. O yeah I guess you should ask Bwater who do they think is the better team.  :D :D you SU boys are funny. Heard about the impressive showing in front of another record breaking crowd at Shentel. Guess the other 2000 fans or more that showed up last year decided  to save the gas money. Considering the gas prices and then the final score of the game I believe  it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they made the right call. ;D ;D Like I said all summer the only good team that Shentel stadium is a tough place to play in for is CNU. Salisbury 49-7 Bridgewater 35-14,49-20.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 11, 2005, 08:43:13 AM
abnrgr - i didn't go to the game, but i did listen on the net - the quackers had many opportunities to pack it in and didn't - they were definately game from the sounds of things, so yeah, i think there was some spark - they've got to find a way to run the ball...only 32 yards against a suspect defense isn't getting it done, but then again, they were playing from behind most of the game - it sounded like the ecu transfer made some big plays with his arm...he could be a good one - if gcq hadn't stayed with it, that game could have gotten out of hand in a BAD way for them, and if it had been last year's team, it would have - they might actually win 2 games this year :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 11, 2005, 09:25:52 AM
CNU--
  Bring your A game because that B game is gonna earn y'all a 50 pt thrashing...can't wait for it... also...bring it over to the ACFC page and lets hear what y'all got...any thought from other fans in the conference about the game??

#56
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on September 11, 2005, 01:54:54 PM
Uncle Jessie=Sore Loser.   :'( :'( Maybe SU's varsity team can make themselves feel better by playing BC's JV team on Oct 1st.    I swear the JV team won't run the score up!   :D  If SU's first team D can't stop BC's 2nd and 3rd team O then I guess there really isn't much to say.  Come to think of it SU's 1st team D has NEVER shut down BC's 2nd and 3rd teams..  :D   To say Bridgewater's coaching staff is "trash" is going to far and you know it Uncle Jessie. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Menowannalickee U. on September 11, 2005, 05:51:46 PM
Uncle Jessie I think it's a little unfair to call the BC coach trash because of what the radio announcers said was a "classless" BC team running up the score.  What if we stopped "running up the score" when it was 35 or 42 and SU came back like they did in the first half?  Also, as for the last play, it was the THIRD string QB in the game for his one play!!  Let the man hike the ball and hand off!!  Get over it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 11, 2005, 06:01:40 PM
Im not saying shut down the entire offense when you were up 28-20 or 35-20. That point that the radio guys and what I brought up was with seconds left and I quote from Randy Woodward from 95.3 because he said it best. "That play instead of taking a knee was uncalled for. It was like rubbing salt in the wound of the Hornets."Its a big difference from shutting it down as you say and doing the right move and calling a knee at the end of the game. If he wanted to get others more playing time He had all chance to get them in because He had the game wrapped up well into the first few min.'s of the 3rd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2005, 06:09:51 PM
Quote and re-quote the radio guy all you want but keep in mind that you are griping about a simple 5-yard running play. You make it sound like they were throwing into the end zone. If your team's wounds can't take that salt then perhaps they are too thin-skinned to be playing football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 11, 2005, 06:16:26 PM
To each his own opinion Pat. Just as the fans and parents in the stands were upset. They have their own as  well on this issue. No reason but to shove it in the SU face for doing that last play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on September 11, 2005, 06:23:12 PM
There are video clips on the web page now. Just click on the game pictures link.
And although the score does not reflect it, SU did have some quality plays.  BC knows how to rotate their assests and they stay fresh throughout the game.  Your connection speed will determine how long it takes to view the files.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2005, 06:46:31 PM
And you can keep smiting me all you want, but it won't change the facts. A running play on the final play of the game is not a big deal to a mature team and a mature coaching staff.

Parents and fans, obviously, will have a different opinion, I'm sure, but the players and coaches can't allow themselves to get all pissed off about something like that. You have to be above letting that get under your collar at the end of the game and just move on to the next game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 11, 2005, 07:22:11 PM
So be it Pat. It still does not change the fact that BC had the game well in hand and the only reason to do that was to smash it in the fans, and Hornets players and staff. Like I said you have your view, BC fans have a view, some fans and parents in the stands that I were next too have one and the radio guys do also. Who is to say who is right. I gave my view on it and I agree 100% with those in the stands that were upset along with the radio guys. Nothing anyone says is going to change the others view. So you can smite me as well like I will do you in the future Im sure. That is what the button is for, is it not Pat?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2005, 08:58:57 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 11, 2005, 07:22:11 PMthe only reason to do that was to smash it in the fans, and Hornets players and staff.

Actually, I think there was already a post about why it was useful to get some of the third-stringers actual game experience. You may have your favorite reason but it was hardly "the only reason."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on September 11, 2005, 09:58:35 PM
I completely agree that a 3rd string offense scoring on a run play is hardly running the score up. The opportunity to get these guys on the field is invaluable. The fact that they scored is more of a reflection on SU's poor defense rather than running up the score. There's no crying in football!

:'( Uncle Jessie sounds like a sore loser. You could probably make the same observations about the CNU game. The Captains literally has 5th string players in late in the game and they continued to score.  Players were swapping jersies to get in the game. This is football and some one will always have their feeling hurt. I hate it when some one is essentially asking for an opposing team to take it easy on them. What's next, don't hit/tackle so hard...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: patcummings on September 11, 2005, 10:10:28 PM
Alright...

I've seen some crazy game ending plays that generated talk, but this is definitely NOT one of them.

Shenandoah punted to BC from their own 14.  BC takes over with 1:08 to go from their own 45. 

Two completely unheard-of BC running backs rush for...
No gain on 1st and 10
1 yard on 2nd and 10
5 yards on 3rd and 9
Game over.

Not to mention that Coach Barnes had to be restrained from a BC player, #58 Troy Barnett.  I've never seen a coach go after an opposing player with such malice in his eyes as Barnes did.  I was right there on the field as it happened, about five yards away. 

I don't know what was said, but c'mon - get a grip.

The only thing anyone from Shenandoah should be complaining about is the fact that their team laid down in the second half.  After fumbling the opening kickoff in the second half, then Washington's TD (aka the dagger)...it was over. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 11, 2005, 11:25:03 PM
Pat Cummings I agree with you on this all the way. I did not see Barnes do that I was busy leaving the stadium. But as I feel that the proper thing to do for Clark was to take a knee. It was to me and many others in and on the radio that it was classless for him to do that.
    Now like Clark, Barnes also has an obligation to his players to teach these guys many values. What he did was totaly wrong. I have not heard of this and like Pat do not know what happened to start this. As the way it looks it was wrong. But I don't know what was said so I cannot comment on it I feel. But again as it looks it was wrong on Barnes.
    SU did lay down in the second half. No question about it. Like in my first post about this the loss SU has no body to blame but themselves. But like last week when Clark had his team walk off without shaking hands to last night, to me shows he is low class. Like I wrote recently we all have a view and nobody will change any others. The radio to the fans and parents in the stands. I was not going to comment on this anymore but what Pat Cummings wrote about Barnes Im sure the poster police would be after me saying why cant you say what Barnes did was wrong also? So be it. Love me or hate me, no skin off my back guys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 11, 2005, 11:25:38 PM
and befor others write about Barnes and Troy Burnett they should find out what happend and make sure they can back it up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2005, 11:34:54 PM
Poster police will say something regardless, redkite.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 11, 2005, 11:36:15 PM
no kidding
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 11, 2005, 11:55:55 PM
A lot of "smitting going on here" Walk into Stone Station a little drunk talking smack to the tailgaters and you might get smitted. In Greensboro people would call the PC police
I love this board. 

MOSH has been so quiet. I saw his boys flashed during SC/GA game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 12, 2005, 12:02:38 AM
lol :D got to love the smite button. Looks like you guys have a good time with the tail gating. Good luck to you all and your team. And again what I wrote about the BC coach has no reflection on the players. What what I can see they are class act and deserve to be in the top 20.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 12, 2005, 12:07:51 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 11, 2005, 11:55:55 PM
A lot of "smitting going on here" Walk into Stone Station a little drunk talking smack to the tailgaters and you might get smitted. In Greensboro people would call the PC police
I love this board. 

MOSH has been so quiet. I saw his boys flashed during SC/GA game.

No smiting from Stone Station abnrgr! Uncle Jessie will tell you he had a personal invite to "The Station" prior to the game. We are all good, just a difference of opinion thats all. Heck BC fans can tell you firsthand about disappointing losses. Even when a team that is trying not to run the score up starts kicking field goals on 2nd down, it still S*CKS! On to next week's games and good luck to all.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 12, 2005, 12:11:59 AM
Llama, incase you did not see it, I want to thankyou again for the invite to the tent. I wanted to go in but my soon to be wife did not want to. Its hard enuff just to get her to the games. ;)thanks again. good luck to ya all the rest of the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 12, 2005, 12:35:03 AM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 12, 2005, 12:11:59 AM
Llama, incase you did not see it, I want to thankyou again for the invite to the tent. I wanted to go in but my soon to be wife did not want to. Its hard enuff just to get her to the games. ;)thanks again. good luck to ya all the rest of the year.

Yup, got it and totally understand! Always welcome at Stone Station. Good Luck as well to SU. This season is looking alot like last year for both of us. Hopefully that is the case, atleast the part about getting into the playoffs again. Here is to us both writing a different ending once we get in! ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 12, 2005, 01:06:01 AM
In order for SU to have any future success the defense has to show major improvement from last night. The Hornets have never been what you would call an offensive machine. It lives and dies on its defense. I think it might be a hard year to take for the fans. Ferrum seems to be clicking on all cylinders, Methodist will be up their again and CNU has not lost a step. We shall find out what the Hornets are made of in these next two weeks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 12, 2005, 01:21:15 AM
For what its worth, I can honestly say that Bridgewater is offensively as talented if not more talented as the 2001 Stagg runner-up team. This team is not as experienced yet; however, as you note we have depth and use it every game. BC has always been known to distribute the ball well and use everyone to stay fresh. This year we just happen to have a few injuries so Marcus Washington is getting alot of the carries right now. There was alot of arm tackling by SU last night, but I think once your season is played out you will put BC's offense in the Top 2 that you played against. I think your Defense will be fine if they play like they did in the first have, not to mention the fact that not to many other teams will use the number of suprise plays as BC does. Those plays can be a back breaker to any good defense if they are not ready for them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 12, 2005, 08:47:56 AM
let's get the focus back where it needs to be...the monarchs, of course :) - sypult disappointed with mental mistakes, happy with outcome (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=sports&Story=7160479) - still lots of work to do, but we've found a big play rb

how dominant was cnu?...just when you think they might be slipping a bit, they go out and win 53-2...big ups to the cnu coaching staff for whipping those boys into shape...i can only hope that they don't play that well against mc

ferrum scares me...a lot - they are REALLY playing well on both sides of the ball - i thought they were a better team than the record indicated last year, and it looks like they're growing up and ready to play - they could make a serious push
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 12, 2005, 10:44:19 AM
BC does have alot of weapons. As alot of guys up here in Winchester and also Clark has said Washington is not a D3 guy. He can easily play for a D1 school. He is that good and is the real deal. The thing that may hurt BC down the road could be the D-line. SU was able to get some big plays in the first half. Playing against a more powerful offense then SU and BC could get smoked.
Ferrum is the real deal . That team was in pretty much each USAC game last year but lost just by a few points. I heard the QB plays the option great. SU will find out next week when they open up the USAC scedule for the Hornets. But for now its getting back on track and playing decent against RM.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 12, 2005, 01:46:42 PM
Abngr,
  This is the first time I could get to a computer to comment on the real GC's game.  It was horrible being in the stands and not the sideline for the game. 

What I saw was a team that had talent that didnt produce.
Offensively Davidsons front four (who i thought were pretty talented, up front anyway) shut down the running game.  Once that was gone, the passing game never clicked.  The defensive backfield for davidson really wasnt that good.  To many mistakes led to a butt whooping that shouldnt have happened.

Defensively Greensboro is Young exp wise.  Give the kids a few weeks and they will be fine.  The team needs to play with alot more excitement, they need players to make plays to get excited about, and they have to play with alot more attitude if they are going to win this year.


ROLL PRIDE
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 12, 2005, 01:57:32 PM
i asked a somewhat rhetorical question earlier in reference to cnu's dominance, but that was before i got a look at the box score (http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Football/2005/cnuf0910.htm#GAME.TEM)....now i'm serious...how dominant was cnu??? it certainly doesn't look like they were as dominant as the score would indicate, at least offensively - the defense was obviously dominant, but the offense put up just 271 total yards and averaged just 2.2 yards per carry on the ground (what's going on with hilliard...just 17 yards on 9 carries this week...i thought he looked like a STUD last year) and had only 2 drives that went more than 50 yards - on special teams cnu missed FOUR extra points

in 2 games, cnu has had 2 of the most perplexing box-scores i've seen in a long time - in week one they give up 600+ yards and only 21 points, and in week 2 they score 53 points, but only gain 271 yards...very odd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 12, 2005, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 12, 2005, 10:44:19 AM
BC does have alot of weapons.  The thing that may hurt BC down the road could be the D-line. SU was able to get some big plays in the first half. Playing against a more powerful offense then SU and BC could get smoked.

I agree that BC's defense still has some growing to do. I noted that they reminded me of BC's 2001 team who went to the Stagg Bowl. We gave up like 30pts/game but scored like 45 a game on offense. I just don't think any team we play in the regular season this year will keep us below 30 pts. I still think SU will be right there with Ferrum & CNU for the conference title. Good luck against RMC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on September 12, 2005, 08:58:01 PM
Some  pictures are out there now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU Fan on September 12, 2005, 09:32:22 PM
Narch,
I was at the CNU Maryville game.  Most of the starters played very little.  For example, the leading receiver for CNU - Nathan Davis only played maybe 10 to 15 plays during the game.  That was also true of George Jones and Rolland Hillard.  The only starters that went for the entire first half was the O line and the defense.  Hopefully, this will clear up why the offense had so little yards.  If the entire O had played the first half it might have been 63 or 70 to 0 at half.  But, the coach wanted to get everyone on the team a chance to play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 12, 2005, 10:41:38 PM
cnu fan - thanks - it looks as though the cnu starters played all but one series of the first half - i've compiled these stats from those plays involving starters:

34 plays/89 yards (2.62 yards/play)
2 fg
3 td's
1 punt
1 safety against

the only area of dominance was on the scoreboard (and truthfully, that's all that matters) - i think cnu's offense has the defense to thank for making them look good, because they had a short field with which to work the entire game - i'm not trying to be a cnu hater...just pointing out the oddity of the score/box-score - i will say this, though - i think cnu is getting ready to face a VERY dangerous offensive team in ssu - the defense can't give up 600+ yards and expect just 21 points and the offense can't expect to put up 53 points if they don't produce better than they did vs. m'ville - since the monarchs don't play this week (i hate off weeks so early in the season), i'm going to be a capt. fan for a week and root for the fellow conference school, but i'm realistic...ssu is good and cnu can't afford to play the way they have the last 2 weeks and expect to win
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 12, 2005, 11:07:35 PM
Mosh
So how do you think GC will match up with GC-Q "dreaded passing attack"
when they play. The kid from ECU sounds like he can go if he has a weapon or 2. Sounds like the Panthers might be good this year and Narch said if he was still playing the Monarchs would have scored 100. That Narch he cracks me up.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on September 13, 2005, 08:46:31 AM
narch-
    You also have to look at the Captains O-line vs. last year's o-line. Only one starter returns, and thats Brian Arroyo and he was hurt during the first quarter and didnt play but so much the rest of the way. This o-line needs to gel and gel ASAP. It will definitely take a few games for them to come together and be able to create those creases for Hilliard and company to get thru. He was running thru a line last year that had pretty much played together for parts or most of 4 seasons. This year however, its a new chapter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 13, 2005, 12:25:35 PM
Abngr,
  Greensboro vs Guilford matchup...I like Greensboro's dbacks.  They follow the lead of J. Matt #15.  I played one season with him before he got sent to Iraq.  If greensboro has one strength on defense it is in the defensive backfield.  So I like our chances vs the Quakers...Cant look to far ahead though, we play Maryville this week..

Anyways, Ive learned to try to stay on the goodside of Narch...Narch I heard that cumberland county schools are out tommorow because of the slouthful hurricane.  Maybe its a good week to have a bye.  Also I think CNU will lose this week vs Salisbury...But I think Salisbury will go far in the playoffs.

Roll Pride!
Beat the Scotts....

NN is at 2-2
Last yr we were 0-10
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on September 13, 2005, 12:26:07 PM
narch,

I think you can contribute a lot of the yards Rowan accumulated to the defensive game plan.  We were taking away the deep stuff, so they were content to go underneath, which led to chunk after chunk.  As a result of this tactic, we were able to stay in the game, and, believe it or not, CNU had some chances.  The bottom line is, Rowan is very good.  Their receivers are absolutely frightening, and they really began to overwhelm our defensive line as the game wore on.  I can honestly see the Profs being a dominant force this year.  Both of CNU's lines are young and inexperienced, for the most part, which leads me to our running game.  Against Rowan, it was nonexistent.  Of course, it didn't help that RU had some big, fast athletes to go up against.  It will take time for them to gel and come around....hopefully sooner than later.  Can you tell I was impressed with Rowan?

The game against Maryville was a good way to rebound and rest the starters.  They were an inferior opponent, and I truly felt bad for them.  We got up on them quick and didn't look back.  Their offense was pathetic, as they gained a mere 70 yards or so, with 50 of those coming in the fourth quarter against our 43rd string.  We only gained 270 yards of total offense due to various reasons.  We were able to capitalize on short fields throughout most of the game, due to turnovers and good return yardage.  The defense also scored a couple of touchdowns in the first quarter.  The reserves began playing early in the second quarter, so as you can imagine, the productivity dropped off as the game wore on.

Overall, the jury's still out, but this Saturday will tell me more.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU Fan on September 13, 2005, 12:46:01 PM
Narch,

I am not one of the guys that usually post about CNU.  I do not like to get in a CNU is better than everyone else battle.  I cheer for CNU because my nephew starts for their team.  I mainly only try to post when I personally see the game.  I live in the deep south and only get to see two CNU games a year.  I looked at the box score and some things that may not stand out to the average person on this board.  For example, the back up QB (K. Morgan) came into the game at 6:36 left in the 2nd quarter. M. Thomas, the backup RB came into thegame around 3:34 left in the 1st Qtr.  M. Hightower, a backup WR, was in the game at 1:50 left in the half.  Of course some of these players were actually in earlier in the game, but did not show up in the box score until the times noted.  I did look at the box score and did see that R. Hillard and G. Jones played later into the half.  I was wrong about that in my initial post.  But, there was a lot of subsitution going on during the game that does not show up in the box score.  Last year, Geroge Jones was at WR, Nathan Davis at the other WR, Rolland Hillard was the RB, Hudson Bryant the QB (after P. Jones went down) and the O-Line was always the same.


During the game, I would have to agree with Goose_13.  The O-line needs to gel and it better happen this week.  The Rowan D-line was swarming around the CNU QBs all day.  In the Rowan game, the D was missing 2 very important people, LB Gary Freeman (Activated to go to help in Katrina relief) and S Greg Bolton (Suspended for violation of team rules).  The O was also missing two important people, TE Justin Greenleaf (Team violations) and OL Bryan Arroyo (team violations).  I am not saying that this is why CNU lost.  They got beat by the better team that day.  End of Story.  I do not see the D giving up 600+ yards against Salisbury with the addition of those two players.  Rowan is mainly a passing team and had over 400+ yards passing.  Salisbury on the other hand is a run oriented offense.   I think CNU D's strength is their LB (Wood, Freeman and Kareem).  Their weakness is getting pressure on the QB.  They miss Ian Vincent something bad.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on September 13, 2005, 03:40:16 PM
Bolton wasnt suspended for the Rowan game, or either game for that matter. It was Greenleaf, Arroyo, and Long.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on September 13, 2005, 04:48:03 PM
Coach K seemed to be in a difficult position. The score was getting out of hand, his starters (esp on D) had taken a beating the week before, and yet the D-Line and O-line really need to put in complete games to try to get their act together. Salisbury will be a test to see how the rest of the season will progress. Shenandoah is always a test for the conference, and it seems like Ferrum has serious potential this year.

I think the jury is still out. Maryville was more of a week off for the starters rather than a test. The next 2 games have me worried. It's exam time already!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 13, 2005, 05:42:00 PM
Quote from: cnu85 on September 13, 2005, 04:48:03 PM
It's exam time already!!

It will all be alright 85! CNU can hit the Vivarin,(* or is it RedBull now?), and cram all Friday night for the big test Saturday. :D

Sorry we shook the Hornet's nest alittle prior to you guys getting them. After our second half performance against MickyD the boys had to make ammends, "at all cost!" ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on September 13, 2005, 09:02:07 PM
Guys, I've seen the Panthers this year, and yes they have seemed impressive.  They look like they always have, but to date I don't think that opponents like GC and E&H match up to the likes of SU and CNU.  They have to remain healthy, because they would have won all of their games last year if Pitts had not gotten hurt.  They were a different club with him at QB.  I think that it will be a fun season, and I trust that we will bring our best against your best. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Three Sails on September 13, 2005, 09:50:45 PM
Congrats to Mike Thomas on conference offensive player of the week.  Gotta love young players like him, O'Brian (TD catch vs. Rowan), Remarcus Baylor and Kyle Morgan stepping up. 

As Goose, Swish and CNU Fan have noted, O-line performance will likely determine how successful the Captains are on Saturday.   

CNU added some extra seating in one endzone - over 5,000 attendance last week.  Should be another good crowd for Salisbury. 

Any injury updates on Arroyo, Thorton and Philip Jones?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: JT on September 13, 2005, 10:41:36 PM
I'd be surprised in CNU had any significant troubles with Salisbury.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2005, 10:47:39 PM
Interesting, I was thinking the exact opposite.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 13, 2005, 11:36:21 PM
       31-20 Salisbury on Saturday
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 14, 2005, 12:02:36 AM
 The bottom line is that CNU has a lot of growing up to do on the D and O lines. I think while the first two games of the season give no one a real grasp of how good or bad CNU is. I do feel however that the two games served a major purpose in the development of the team. Against Rowan the young guys saw how hard they have to work to get where the elite teams in D3 are. Against Maryville it gave them a little boost to actually compare the difference between a good team and a not so good one. It also gave them a little confidence because winning can get contagious.

On another note the skill players like Nate, G. Jones, Kurfew, Hudson,  and Phillip, need to carry the offense in a big way and put points on the board like last Saturday. Their are no more excuses with that much talent in those areas you should easliy score 28 a game. Okay Fat Cliff, Jake, big back Tommy Fitz, and boney Pat are gone and none of the olinemen besides Arroyo got any significant time last year so it will be a major growing process for the new guys. So you can't expect much from the running backs until the new fat boys grow up and gel.

On the defensive side Kareem, Wood, (doing their part 19 and 12 tackles respectively in the Rowan game.  And with Freeman essentially getting two games off , he should be hungry to get to the ball saturday. J LO and Rob need to raise their level of play( in case you didn't know Horn is gone, so both of you will have to take the leadership role in the secondary to bring along the new DBs. As of right now now no one knows the names of the D ends for CNU in the USA south right now. Similar to  01 when no one knew about CNU or of the impact the D ends would eventually have on the program. But I will tell you that a few of them are as talented and will eventually make Captain fans as well as conference coaches forget the likes of Veney, Chandler, Vincent, and Holmes. As far as the interior tackles , they have a few kids with some raw talent who will only continue to get better with time. But for the right now, keep getting fat and keep peple off of the LB's and let them do what they do best.

Salisbury is coming to town with revenge on their mind. Lets make sure they leave Pomoco with the same thought.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 14, 2005, 12:31:12 AM
Uncle Jessica you sure do worry a lot about what CNU is doing in our spare time. Besides when someone brings up why we keep blowing it agianst you scrubs, when do you ever see any CNU fan type anything about the ladies of Winchester. Lets see 4 yrs 4 conference titles, 4 consecutive apperancess in the NCAA playoffs, 2 playoff victories, 2 top 25 finishes, 2 wins against Bridgewater, and much respect from the D3 world because of our accomplishments on the field in such a short time. Just say it, your jealous because NO MATTER WHAT YOU OR YOUR GIRLS FROM SU DO YOU WILL NEVER BE, OR BECOME MORE SUCCESFUL THAN THE BOYS FROM CCCCCCCCCCCNNNNNNNNNNNNNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.

On a side note what I do think you should be doing in your spare time is going back and looking at tape on why your boys got pimped slapped by Bwater.  :D :D :D you guys where really crying about Bwater 3 and 4 string boys running the score up on you. Personally I would have keep that kind of embarrassment in house, you feel me :o.
No matter what you say just look at how pathetic you are. Before you posted anything about your game with Randolph Macon this week you took time to look at who we play and what you think or hope we will do. Oh yeah thats right, like I stated long, long  ago during summer . CNU games are in the spotlight for games to watch and other people worry about them(people like YOU) because of the impact it may have on the playoff picture and seeding. You think anyone was really worried about seeding or playoffs when you played Bridgewater. Worry about the ODAC this weekend before RMC puts some more salt in your wounds.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 14, 2005, 12:45:15 AM
Finest
I feel you dawg. I feel you all the way in Colorado. Hell the Buffs feel you. I think everyone gets you "wide screen" God you are busting hard. If CNU gets to play some real "Bit%$ made punks" they might score 100.  Why the hostility. You always get those 1st year posters talking smack.  They usually leave after a good punking on the field. 

Remember dawg I love ya

Speaking of love is that MC55 sitting in the dark right now with the remote watching that streak of all black trying to figure out how to stop that 6'2" 210lb 4.4 40 QB (signed with Bunting's boys in Chapel Hill already) Dem Rams going to bring some hat.  ;)

MC55 you are the best job in the world. High school football coach. Enjoy it



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 14, 2005, 12:59:20 AM
oh god. get a life. this is college football.  i'll cheer for who i want to this week, and you do the same.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 14, 2005, 01:55:50 AM
Actually im not a first year poster. Pat just never tranfered my post over from the merge.   ;D  And I played my four years at CNU so I know what I am talking about from the inside and from the outside looking in.


GO CAPTAINS
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2005, 02:58:33 AM
Sorry, taken care of.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 14, 2005, 08:56:51 AM
blackhats - i'm with you on the importance of pitts...he is ALMOST as good as johnson from ssu running the option...very dangerous and ferrum IS a different team with him running the show - i'm sure you will be interested to see how cnu defends the option this week as a bit of a preview of the fc/cnu game - i had written ferrum off early, not remembering that pitts had missed so much time last season

finest - people like me and others evaluate cnu because they are the favorites every year in this conference...seeing chinks in the armor (allowing 600+ yards vs. rowan, a sub-par offensive performance vs. m'ville) gives us all hope that our team might unseat the mighty captains

three sails - i think you meant congrats to thomas on offensive ROOKIE of the week...mike hill from mc was usasac offensive player of the week for his 181 yard, 2 td performance vs. guilford
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: JT on September 14, 2005, 10:19:49 AM
Pat,

I dunno.  My reasoning my be faulty but I saw CNU and thought they were pretty good with all those new faces now in the starting lineup. Also Cortland didn't have too much trouble with Brockport winning 20-10.  Meanwhile Salisbury played a tight one with Brockport last week.  I know Salisbury had a great second half last week, but as long as the time of possession isn't too lopsided, I like CNU's chances this w/e.  Especially if the Captains play as hard as they did against Rowan
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 14, 2005, 11:48:48 AM
Turnovers will seal Salisbury's fate again just like the playoff game with CNU last year. 7 TO's, 4 fumbles, and 3 ints.

Salisbury has already fumbled 7 times in its first 2 games this year!

"Them boys are fast as ell, but they can't win as long as they keep droppin' that baton!"  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 14, 2005, 12:27:34 PM
Abngr,
  Reading your post brought a tear to my eye. 

Is Mc55 playing Havelock?

This hurricane coming up the coast could effect the SU CNU game option wise...Somone said something about comparable scores to courtland and brockporte state but those scores are out of the window if you dont shut down the option...Its all about matchups, whether your team can stop the option etc...Anyways I would go with Salisbury vs Cnu.  Senior qb with a headache of talent.  I still have nightmares about that kid and echoe force on the option...I have the pitch ok, they wont let me hit the qb ok???Im still out of my mind..ok...

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2005, 01:49:54 PM
Turnovers have definitely been a problem for Salisbury in this offense. However, I don't think they'll be taking a 10-hour bus trip this weekend, so they should come out of the gate a little better against CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 14, 2005, 02:08:33 PM
maybe ssu's experience playing at mc during a hurricane last season will prepare them for possible inclement weather this weekend :)

almost ANY option team is going to put the ball on the ground a few times a game...it's the nature of the beast - the key is first down...if you can get ssu off schedule and into 3rd and longer than 6, you've got a shot - although the ssu passing game is improved, i'll take my chances with d. johnson's arm 8 days a week over his legs...oh yeah, you better hope he doesn't break contain when he does decide to drop back and throw the ball, or you might be looking at 6 - the mc coaches that i talked to said he has really improved his decision making skills on the option, as well, although he still likes to keep the ball more than he probably should - when he does pitch, he's got some guys with jets on the wing - and don't forget a PUNISHING fb that you have to honor on every play, because he's got enough speed/power to break a big play, as well - this should be a great game, but i think ssu wins this in a psuedo shoot-out 37-36 (no fg's for cnu...5 td's, 2 missed xp's and three 2 pt conversions)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 14, 2005, 02:29:35 PM
Quote from: narch on September 14, 2005, 02:08:33 PM


almost ANY option team is going to put the ball on the ground a few times a game...it's the nature of the beast

Well if they can continue to win with 2-4 fumbles lost per game, then more power to them. I am not an expert on CNU's offense, but with that many turnovers a good offensive opponent will never allow them to catch-up in a shoot-out. This should be a good battle to watch.

As for the Bus ride, I guess I see your point; however, a short walk across campus resulted in 7 turnovers against CNU last year. ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 14, 2005, 03:40:50 PM
Llama:

What's the issue with Salisbury?  Seven turnovers in last years game is history.  Hopefully they learned the lesson and won't have a repeat this year.  I guess we will all see come Saturday if the Sea Gulls learned from last year.

Narch, you made a good point, regarding DJ's passing ability, it has improved alot and with some experienced WR's, Salisbury is not as reliant on the option.  Finally, Satchell may have a huge game if everyone is keying on DJ.  Like I said, we'll all see on Saturday.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 14, 2005, 03:42:37 PM
fivemics, i have always thought that would be a illegal pass. could be wrong, but thats what i have thought also.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on September 14, 2005, 04:25:04 PM
I have seen balls hit linemen in the back and then hit the ground and an illegal forward pass has been called for throwing to an ineligible receiver.  I have also seen where it has not been called as a penalty.  I have never seen it off a lineman that was on the ground though, wish I had seen that.

Was the ball tipped by a defender before it hit the lineman?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on September 14, 2005, 04:48:01 PM
I was just reading and trying to decipher the NCAA football rules and I believe that if the ball hits a players helmet and rebounds into the air it is a live ball.  It is not a dead ball until it hits the ground.

It is probably a judgement call for the official whether it was intentional or not.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 14, 2005, 05:02:43 PM
Here are the game notes for the SU/RM game this week.    http://www.su.edu/athletics/fb/fbgamenotes05.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 14, 2005, 07:05:19 PM
I saw those SU pics...I see yall got some new uni's...Reminds me of Ole Miss.  I think they look sharp minus the hu----munguuuuus SU on the helmet...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 14, 2005, 07:37:26 PM
I agree with you on that mosh. they look 100% better than the all blue ones from the past. i also think they should get rid of the"SU" and get maybe the hornet logo they also use. Not sure if they will get new road uni's or not. For the CUA game they had the old all white ones. Thay should get some red ones for the road.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Three Sails on September 14, 2005, 09:39:33 PM
Narch
I stand corrected.  I ment offensive rookie - congrats also to Mike Hill on his career high.

Weather should not be a major factor at Pomoco on Saturday - storm will be long gone.  Forcast is for low 80s and chance of showers.  Unless we get a lot more rain than the inch or two currently predicted, the new turf should be in good shape. 

Then again, perhaps they will water the field to slow the Gulls rushing attack...............   ;D

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: miz on September 14, 2005, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: fivemics on September 14, 2005, 09:07:21 PM
Uncle Jessie and knightstalker, thanks for the response.  I just thought with the lineman down the ball should be dead.  No it wasn't touched by anyone until it hit the lineman in the heard.  The pass was going straight to the ground until it hit the lineman. It was something I've never seen before. It was a terrible pass actually that turned out to be about a 25 yard gain.

More like a seven yard gain Mr. Spindoctor.  Now can you SU guys find anything else to cry about?  Give me a freakin' break.  The score was already 42-20 and we had our 2nd and 3rd teamers in (not that having them in the game prevented us from scoring another TD against your 1's).  For what it's worth, it looked to me like the ball hit an official first but I'm not totally sure.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 14, 2005, 10:16:19 PM
 Jeff Highfill (our #2 QB) was trying not to throw the pass. He started the throwing motion tryed to stop and was committed too far and the ball was released anyway toward the ground and the lineman. So thats why it looked so terrible. As for the completion, it was devine intervention I guess. Highfill has still never thrown an incompletion in a varsity game. ;D 7-7 with two passing TD's for his career.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 14, 2005, 11:48:49 PM
Narch
There is a 6'5" 275 lb TE here at this high school I work with in Colorado. 4.8.9 40, military brat. A little tight thru the hips but has good feet. If he was a mean SOB he would be DII. I do think with the special motivation of MC's D-Line coach( Stacey, he's a little twisted) he may be something for the dreaded Monarchs. Can you tell me the recruiting coordinators name? By the way that spandex outfit you had on last week was a head turner.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: miz on September 15, 2005, 08:47:34 AM
Quote from: fivemics on September 15, 2005, 08:27:44 AM
To MIZ, it was nothing more than a question. It was never written or intended to be a complaint about the score.  Grow up and learn how to read.

Dude-

It was more the "they gained about 25 yards off it" gross exaggaration than the initial question that prompted my response (on top of all of Uncle Jessie's whining all week about the last play). 

PS:  I read good.   8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: miz on September 15, 2005, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: fivemics on September 15, 2005, 08:48:51 AM
Poetic license. It wasn't about the yardage it was about the rule.

You guys are the most stubborn group of crybaby fans from any school I've ever seen posting on this site.  It's like a bunch of little league moms. 

I'll give you one thing, you support your team.  It just doesn't always make sense. 

Now I'm taking my own advise and going back to the ODAC board before I pull all my hair out. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 15, 2005, 10:43:08 AM
someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. my god, all the guy did was ask a question about the rules. you act like its the end of the world.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 15, 2005, 11:07:52 AM
Wow -- the before- and after-editing versions of your post are pretty interesting. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 15, 2005, 11:08:55 AM
the other was too harsh, i admit
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 15, 2005, 11:30:29 AM
abnrgr - i pm'd you coach eavenson's email address and contact info. - thanks for looking out for the monarchs...not sure how to reply to the spandex thing other than...???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ballcoach on September 15, 2005, 11:52:24 AM
Fivemics and Uncle Jessie and anyone else who cares,
Although I know it looks as if somehow something was screwy with a pass going off a linemans helmet..there is no penalty or dead ball. The actual rule is NO RULE you play on as the refs did in the case of the BC completion. Now if the lineman in anyway made a play or attempt to catch the ball..that is a different story. 
Now on to RMC.  :) GO HORNETS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 15, 2005, 12:20:53 PM
That query was very fairy.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 15, 2005, 06:34:34 PM
Mosh
"Ed Bailey...are we cross" :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 15, 2005, 09:44:29 PM
week 3 predictions:

ac 31 - gcq 30 - quackers best shot for a win this season goes down the tubes with a late ac rally

fc 34 - chowan 16 - braves aren't any better with (legal :)) scholarship athletes

ncwc 24 - huntingdon 13 - bishops win battle of 2nd yr programs and exact a little revenge for last season...that's a LONG ride for hc

gc 17 - m'ville 14 - gc defense stifles scots offense

su 24 - rmc 10 - su finally puts together a solid effort

ssu 37 - cnu 36 - dj and satchell are too much for the young capts. line, and the seagull defensive line controls the cnu o-line, as well

and, my lead pipe lock of the week...monarchs won't lose :)

i was 7-0 last week to push the season record to 9-5...not bad - GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 16, 2005, 10:39:19 AM
6-1 I didnt post last week...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 16, 2005, 05:16:58 PM
Narch
AC + 12
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 16, 2005, 05:33:56 PM
abnrgr - not sure about that...they can't run the ball, can't stop anybody and don't have swann...i think this will be closer than you think - the real question is "will the quackers win at all this season?"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on September 16, 2005, 06:59:52 PM
GC 27
Maryville 10

Pride gets the offense going this week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 16, 2005, 08:26:04 PM
welcome aboard, gcman

how about the other games?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on September 16, 2005, 10:29:14 PM
AC 35 Guilford 17

Ferrum 24 Chowan21

NCWC 17  Hunt 10

SU 21 RMC 17

SSU 24 CNU27

VMI 99 Duke 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: luvapontiac on September 17, 2005, 12:13:50 AM
I am noticing not as much bad blood this year between CNU and Salisbury. Should be a hell of a good game between two evenly matched teams tomorrow! Who's all going, and is anybody tailgating early?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 17, 2005, 04:52:50 AM
CNU has never really had any bad blood between SU. We just didn't like the fact that they beat us two years in a row when we where young and then dropped us when we were getting pretty good. As far as the game goes Im hoping the offense shows up for CNU becuase if they do our defense will limit DJ and company much more than people think.  I think the game will be close and I think SU will have a costly turnover in the fourth to seal a Captain win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 17, 2005, 10:47:44 AM
Big game this week for both teams but let me break it down like this...
Salisbury comes into this game with a lot to prove...they lost on their homefield last year in the playoffs to this CNU team...they have beefed up their schedule and this game is the marquee...with all this being said it is now or never for these seniors...I look to DJ and Brett Whenert on the offense and Andrew Demming on the defense to step into the huddles and let all 11 on the field at all times know what it takes and to go 100% every play...these three play with the "I don't give a f###, we refuse to lose attitude" and this is their final stage.
Therefore, I am calling them out to bring everyone on the team through with a win...both teams are talented, but this game is going to go to whoever wants it more...usually I pick the gulls in a blowout...but today it is going to be two high caliber teams trying to turn that corner to being a mainstay in the Top 10 programs in the country...Its there, now lets see who is going to go and get it...I like(putting my beak on) Salisbury by a field goal 27-24...This is the last group of kids that I played with and they know how to win...and refuse to lose...back when I was a freshman a group of kids and coaches decided to start winning and busting it 110%...this attitude is contagious and when that group of men left 4 years later...these boys aren't only coached up on football but how to win and what it takes

SALISBURY 27 CNwho 24

BOYS,BRING THE DICK...AND REPRESENT...YOU GET ONE SHOT...DO WHAT YOU DO...AND DEMMING...LIKE LAST WEEK...LAY THAT HELMET AT THE FIFTY FOR SEAGULL JACKS CAUSE THIS IS OUR FIELD TODAY

#56
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on September 17, 2005, 01:46:25 PM
maryville 8  greensboro 0

8:00 1st qtr
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on September 17, 2005, 01:55:00 PM
maryville 15  greensboro 0

6:21 1st qtr
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on September 17, 2005, 02:26:12 PM
Maryville 15  Greensboro 7

10:00 2nd qtr

nice long drive by the pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 17, 2005, 03:42:56 PM
gc down 29-7 at the half - ssu up 34-10...are there some chinks in the captain armour?  offense struggling to get things going for the capts in the 2nd half
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bigtoe75 on September 17, 2005, 03:46:15 PM
Salisbury 34, CNU10 in the 3rd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on September 17, 2005, 05:10:43 PM
Maryville 35  Greensboro 27
Final
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: luvapontiac on September 17, 2005, 06:33:40 PM
CNU played tough, but turnovers were killers in this game. Would have been a lot closer if not for those. CNU played a good game otherwise, but Salisbury just had their number today. I would like to see this game as a playoff game again! I truly hope for that, would be a great contest!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on September 17, 2005, 07:41:36 PM
44-24..ouch. even without turnovers it's not much closer. The D line was weak and couldn't stop the option. I question the play calling on offense. I don't think CNU challenged the DBs enuff. They didn't go verticle enuff...when they did, they won the battle. Not sure why the coaches ran the ball as much as they did when the game was closer. CNU had success with the medium to deep passes and didn't take advantage  of it. CNU couldn't get much going on offense - they never found a rhythm. As soon as they were moving the ball, the coaches would call runs up the middle. Then, when it's 3rd and less than 1 (where you shuold be running the ball) they decide to try the long ball.

I think SU skipped the bus and just kept running....all the way home to Salisbury.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 17, 2005, 08:31:12 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 11, 2005, 06:01:40 PM
Im not saying shut down the entire offense when you were up 28-20 or 35-20. That point that the radio guys and what I brought up was with seconds left and I quote from Randy Woodward from 95.3 because he said it best. "That play instead of taking a knee was uncalled for. It was like rubbing salt in the wound of the Hornets."Its a big difference from shutting it down as you say and doing the right move and calling a knee at the end of the game. If he wanted to get others more playing time He had all chance to get them in because He had the game wrapped up well into the first few min.'s of the 3rd.

This is my impression of Uncle Jessica and his ladies from Shenandoah. I just think it is completely Ludicrous and classless for Salisbury to kick a field goal with less than 50 seconds to go in a game that has already been decided. SU has no sportsmanship what so ever and their coach should be fired. They had scored enough and O my gosh DJ never came out and Satchell keep running hard with 2 min left to go in the game. Whats with that, it's no way they should have been playing in the last few minutes its unfair that they came to our house and did what they did to our team. That's okay but one day they will be sorry and we will run the score up on them. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on September 17, 2005, 08:33:46 PM
Tough day for the Pride, I like the fact that we didn't give up and had shot at the end.  Gotta put it behind us and get ready for SVU.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: luvapontiac on September 17, 2005, 09:03:40 PM
Yeah, I have to agree with you on that one CNUFinest. I do not appreciate any team's coach (regardless of whether I like them or not) who kicks someone else when they are down. I know coming from a fan, apologies do not mean much, but I know disrespect when I see it. Most people at Salisbury do not appreciate a sore winner because it takes the fun out of sportsmanship and makes things personal. While I liked the victory, I certainly did not appreciate the playcalling towards the end of the game. But don't let a few idiots sour you towards a great rivalry between two programs and their fans who respect one another.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 17, 2005, 09:07:26 PM
Luv I agree that the turnovers would have keep the game a lot closer but at the end of the day the offense only scored 10 points and the defense allowed over 400 plus on the ground. I'm not a rocket scientist but CNU is in a rebuilding season from what I saw today. If you look at the top 15-20 teams in the nation on any level, I don't think you are going to see alot of them depending on freshmen or sophmores to make a major impact on the field. CNU has a lot of new guys in a lot of important places and it really showed. The problem with playing a lot of underclassmen is that when things start to go really bad a lot of them begin to get reserved because in the back of their mind they know they can get another crack at a team next year. For the older guys tomorrow is today and this may have been their last shot. It was  also very depressing to look at the weak CNU chants after SU scored and eventually they stopped all together. It was a time when our defense loved to hurry back to the sidelines to correct our problems because we knew it would  be extremely hard for the opposing team to get back into our endzone. We wanted teams to know that no matter what our team was going to accept any challenge and make the best out of it. But today a lot of older guys laid it on the line today but the overall body language of the team was horrible.  I think a lot of the new guys don't know what it really means to be a Captain.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 17, 2005, 09:13:37 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on September 14, 2005, 11:48:48 AM
Turnovers will seal Salisbury's fate again just like the playoff game with CNU last year. 7 TO's, 4 fumbles, and 3 ints.

Salisbury has already fumbled 7 times in its first 2 games this year!

"Them boys are fast as ell, but they can't win as long as they keep droppin' that baton!"  ;)

Llamaguy:

There were seven fumbles in today's game, but not from Salisbury.  It looks like the boys held on to the baton today.  Looks like Shenandoah will get a mad CNU team with a weeks rest.  Good Luck  ;D


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 17, 2005, 09:18:06 PM
Quote from: luvapontiac on September 17, 2005, 09:03:40 PM
Yeah, I have to agree with you on that one CNUFinest. I do not appreciate any team's coach (regardless of whether I like them or not) who kicks someone else when they are down. I know coming from a fan, apologies do not mean much, but I know disrespect when I see it. Most people at Salisbury do not appreciate a sore winner because it takes the fun out of sportsmanship and makes things personal. While I liked the victory, I certainly did not appreciate the playcalling towards the end of the game. But don't let a few idiots sour you towards a great rivalry between two programs and their fans who respect one another.

Their is no crying in football luv. I was just making fun of the SU fans when they were crying about Bwater beating the crap out of them. I had no problem with SU keeping their starters in the game that was up to them and their coaching. Our starting D was on the field and if your guys are better than ours then so be it. With DJ and Satchell in the game late like that (have you seen Friday Night Lights, Boobie). That would have been a major blow to SU if something bad would have happend to them. But being that they are the leaders of their team Im pretty sure that they had a little say in that decision and that  it was more personal because of last year playoff loss.  The field goal kick at the end was good practice in a game time situation for your kicker and it may pay off in November you never no.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 17, 2005, 10:37:11 PM
wow - the cnu/ssu game wasn't much of a contest, and that shocks me - i thought the captains had more fight in them - i listened to part of the 3rd quarter and i think bryant threw picks on 3 of 5 pass attempts...ouch (but not as bad as the gc qb today...7 picks vs. m'ville) - ferrum spanked chowan, ncwc got spanked by huntingdon and su wins by 10 - interesting day - monarchs...get ready for ncwc...big game on saturday!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 17, 2005, 11:06:38 PM
Nice win for the Hornets tonight. Frates had a big game, 150yds and 2 td. The D played a nice game as well. Next week is going to be alot harder for the Hornets. Ferrum looks to be a beast so SU has to have its A game. Over 3,000 fans were at Shentel tonight but as usual at any SU event the crowd thinks they are at a library not at a sporting event  :-\ . Good luck next week Hornets. Now the real season starts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: luvapontiac on September 17, 2005, 11:35:27 PM
Sorry CNU, I misunderstood your post. I still stand by what I said though, Salisbury should not have been going for that field goal being up so far.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Dr. Seagull on September 18, 2005, 09:41:00 AM
CNUsfinest-
    I agree with you about the field goal...that is great game time experience for the special teams unit which looked like it could use some game time experience...I think there is two ways of looking at the game...if there were less turnovers it would have been closer or...if Salisbury played a complete game including special teams it would have been a much bigger blowout...but as I said on the ACFC board...when you are good teams gun for you and that is what Salisbury was doing...I also don't agree at all with Luv...there was not any degree of bad sportsmanship...it was a gamble to leave starters in the game as it was to take them out...when you are playing another team that is in the Top 25 you can't under estimate their ability to come back...also...during this age in football...come November when the selection committee needs to pick a team as the #1 seed in the South or East you need not only wins but convincing wins against good teams like CNU...if it was the opposite with CNU on top...I would expect the same...in the playoffs it is a different story how you go about winning...anyways...good tough game and maybe we will see you in the playoffs...good luck in league play and hopefully you can run the table...and BTW...don't worry about not playing B'water...you would wax their a$$ anyway

#56
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 18, 2005, 10:27:26 AM
Tough start for my boys.  Efficiency has to be the key to getting better. 


Need a win
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 18, 2005, 12:42:57 PM
Has anyone been able to see Ferrum this year? If so what would you say is the biggest weapon the Panthers have?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 18, 2005, 01:07:33 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on September 14, 2005, 11:48:48 AM


Llamaguy:

There were seven fumbles in today's game, but not from Salisbury.  It looks like the boys held on to the baton today.  Looks like Shenandoah will get a mad CNU team with a weeks rest.  Good Luck  ;D





You know it! I will be the first to congrat Salsbury on a great game. Now dang-it, clue me in next time so I can pick Salisbury in the pick'em! :'( :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 18, 2005, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 18, 2005, 12:48:35 PM
Good job yesterday Gulls. For those that went to the game what would you say are some of the weakness of CNU this year. What should the fans of SU Hornets expect when they visit CNU in two weeks.

I swear Uncle Jessica for a team that has beaten us 3 out of 4 times it seems like you are really scared about coming to Pomoco. Last time I checked we are 1-2 and Ferrum WHOM YOU PLAY NEXT IS UNDEFEATED. Its funny how you claim to hate us so much but are always worried about what we got and what we are doing. The Captains will be just fine once the young guys find out what it means to be a Captain. I think you should be more worried about only beating power house D3 teams like Catholic and RMC by slim margins. Also, by you worrying so much about us especially when we don't even play this week, further lets me know that you really know CNU has and will always be better than SU.
Title: Ferrum
Post by: blackhats on September 18, 2005, 07:54:58 PM
I've seen Ferrum.  They are the same Ferrum that you always see, however they are healthy at this point---if they had been last season they would have been in a lot better shape.  They are one injury away from being very average again.  They play a lot of freshmen and sophomores on both sides of the ball and they haven't shot themselves in the foot too much.  They will certainly have to continue that trend against a very potent Shenandoah team.  I saw the Hornets' highlights against BC and they will definitely be the best team that Ferrum has seen to this point.  Ferrum can score with almost anyone, but with so much youth on the defensive side the offense may have to carry them.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 18, 2005, 10:46:25 PM
Blackhats:

Thanks for the first-hand take on Ferrum. It's nice to see things clicking well for them this year, but I really believe that you are on the money when you say that they are one injury away from mediocrity.

I, for one, appreciate your insight.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 19, 2005, 12:11:01 AM
Is it just me or does Ferrum have a major injury to one of their major players every year...seems every year just around the time the leaves turn on the mountain at the end of their stadium that someone goes down!

Narch what station are MC's games being broadcast on?  Maybe I can pick it up down in the dub!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 19, 2005, 01:13:19 AM
SU's defense needs to be clicking on all cylinders Saturday against Ferrum. If Ferrum can stop Frates its going to be along night for the Hornets. They don't have the fire power to get back into the game once they are down late in the game. Last year the Hornets had two great receivers who graduated that Hoffman could go to if they had to pass. If any position that they are the weakest this year it would be WR. Losing Junior Green and Mike McVearry really hurts them. This week should be a close one once again. I just hope the Hornets can keep up with Ferrum's offense or most likely any chance to win the conference is over. One loss in the USAC and your in a deep hole. FIVEMICS, what is your take on Saturdays game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 19, 2005, 08:33:37 AM
i think the one injury that blackhats and wclegacy are referring to is pitts - i think he could be the most valuable player to his team in the conference - he runs that offense to perfection

papi - the games will be on 1490, but you're more likely to get them on the web...plus 1490 is bumping 2 of the games to tape delay because they carry atl braves baseball...imagine the braves games getting priority over the monarchs :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on September 19, 2005, 08:35:22 AM
Not much to say about Saturday's game.  I'm not so sure that the WR position is a problem. I've not seen many good passes to them or the TE.  As for Frates, it seems not to matter if he gets much yardage, they just give him the ball that many more times to try to control the ground.  I hope the video clips played for you.  If they load up slow it's because more people are starting to view them.  Once it's loaded just hit the reset icon on the browser and it will play cleanly.  I think I'll try to find the Ferrum games radio broadcast archive and see what's going on down there.  Looks like they play well and maybe better then that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mizzou_mafia on September 19, 2005, 01:20:23 PM
Quote from: Dr. Seagull on September 18, 2005, 09:41:00 AM
...and BTW...don't worry about not playing B'water...you would wax their a$$ anyway

#56

Lol.  From a fan of a team that hasn't even played Bwater.  I love it.  I reserve judgement on that analysis until after CNU plays a common opponent of Bwater (Shen), and if CNU and BC both have conference wins come Oct 2, maybe a playoff matchup can settle that. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mizzou_mafia on September 19, 2005, 01:26:44 PM
Quote from: Dr. Seagull on September 18, 2005, 09:41:00 AM
during this age in football...come November when the selection committee needs to pick a team as the #1 seed in the South or East you need not only wins but convincing wins against good teams like CNU...if it was the opposite with CNU on top...I would expect the same...in the playoffs it is a different story how you go about winning...

Seagull, This is what I meant to post about before I read that other throwaway line.  D3 football is completely different from D1.  In D1, maybe you'd want to run up a score because the AP Poll plays a roll in deciding who goes to what bowls.  This is not the case in D3.   There is no playoff criteria for margin of victory against quality teams (or any teams), and polls like the AFCA Top 25 and d3football.com Top 25 mean zilch when it comes to selecting playoff teams. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on September 19, 2005, 02:02:41 PM
Quote from: mizzou_mofia on September 19, 2005, 01:26:44 PM
[...] the AFCA Top 25 [...] 

What's that? :) (in reference to it not being released last week)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 19, 2005, 02:28:21 PM
mizzou - i don't know much about this, but i think it's pretty naive to say that margin of victory doesn't come into play AT ALL when seeding teams - i know that geography plays a most pivotal role, but the human factor may come into play at some point in time, and it's human nature to compare scores, don't you think?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 19, 2005, 03:08:20 PM
mosh - just looking at statistics a bit today and noticed that the gc qb has thrown more often than any other qb in the conf. in just 2 games (most teams have played 3 games) and that roberson has thrown 13 int's in 2 games...wow - did gc get a new offensive coordinator?  this seems to be a HUGE departure from what they have traditionally done on offense - oh, and how'd the hs team do this week? how about your's mc55ol?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mizzou_mafia on September 19, 2005, 04:23:22 PM
Quote from: narch on September 19, 2005, 02:28:21 PM
mizzou - i don't know much about this, but i think it's pretty naive to say that margin of victory doesn't come into play AT ALL when seeding teams - i know that geography plays a most pivotal role, but the human factor may come into play at some point in time, and it's human nature to compare scores, don't you think?

Narch,
A few years ago, there was a good bit of discussion about why one team got seeded higher than another, why some teams made the playoffs over others.  While that discussion still exists, it hasn't been as abundant on this site (that I've noticed) since a few of us that would do playoff projections starting around Week 5 looked at the NCAA rulebook and said 'hmmm, maybe it's this Strength of Schedule thing that's been throwing us off.' 

Your comment on geography...the NCAA says "geographic proximity takes precedence over seed when placing teams on the bracket." Geography DOES NOT matter in seeding a team.  It DOES matter in determining which teams face which teams (a #2 seed could play a #3 seed in the first round...instead of 2v7 and 3v6). 

In brief, here's the primary critieria looked at:
1) Win-loss % against regional opponents
2) Regional SOS
3) In-Region head to head competition
4) In-Region results vs common regional opponents
5) In-Region results vs regionally ranked teams

If this doesn't determine it, secondary criteria includes:

1) Out-of-Region head-to-head competition
2) Overall D3 won-loss %
3) Results vs Common non-D3 opponents
4) Results vs D3 teams ranked in other Regions
5) Overall win-loss %
6) Results vs common out-of-region opponents
7) Overall D3 SOS

As far as I can tell, there's plenty of criteria for determining which teams play and how they get seeded without margin of victory being included...It looks like, unlike part of the Division I formula, the NCAA Division III process tries to take out the "human factor" that you mentioned, and has made it more mathematical than anything else.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mizzou_mafia on September 19, 2005, 04:27:16 PM
Now, media/coaches polls... yes I agree!  A 20 point Salisbury win is more likely to get them bumped up a few spots in those polls than a 1 point victory.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on September 19, 2005, 04:33:37 PM
As a CNU fan, I don't have a problem with SU leaving starters in the game so late. As an SU fan, I would be wondering how dumb can the coach get? The heat index was in the mid 90's, the 2 work horses are running all over CNU (400+ yards in rushing!!), and you're up by 20 with a few minutes left in the game. Not to mention, many players (mostly out of shape CNU players) were cramping up, or being escorting off the field with dehydration. Maybe the SU coach felt like his starters needed some conditioning?

A loss is a loss....if SU pulls the starters, maybe the score would be 41-24 instead of 44-24.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 19, 2005, 05:15:16 PM
mizzou - thanks...i guess the ncaa handbook takes out all human emotion (as it should)...but couldn't #4 and #5 use scores if both teams won or lost vs. said common opponent(s)?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2005, 05:30:12 PM
Yes, I believe it's possible that "results" vs. common opponents could include a comparison of the score. However, I think it would only be used in the event of a great disparity (i.e., a narrow home win vs. a large road win, something like that).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mizzou_mafia on September 19, 2005, 06:32:53 PM
Narch,

Yes, I'd agree with Pat and your thoughts on that.  Otherwise they could call it "record" instead of "results".   But I hate to side with any argument that supports running up the score  :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 19, 2005, 06:45:09 PM
And we anticipate what "seeds" will play in the South Region, "Texas Sub-bracket" this year as well...geographic proximity, you know! ::)

If we seed the Top 8 South Region schools (a thru h)from this week's Top 25,  we have

a) #2 UMHB ASC Champ
b) #4 HSU Pool C bid ASC runner-up
c) #6 W&J Pool B bid #2
d) #10 Salisbury Pool B bid #3
e) #13 Trinity SCAC Champ
f) #21 HSC ODAC Champ
g) #23 McDaniel CC Champ
h) #25 CNU USAC Champ.

My first impression is Seed "e" Trinity goes to Seed "b" HSU and someone flies into Belton (UMHB) Seed "a" for the first round.

On the other sub-bracket, someone gets sent to the East, and the other four make up a tight sub-bracket.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on September 20, 2005, 01:57:49 PM
CNU is still ranked in the top 25???? If CNU is the 25th best D3 team in the country...then there is some sad football being played!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 20, 2005, 02:04:29 PM
'85 - it's about reputation and schedule - the two losses were to teams that are probable top ten teams - cnu fans should be proud of the way coach kelchner has scheduled (maybe cj could learn a scheduling lesson) and proud of the fact that cnu has built a reputation strong enough to sustain 2 losses and remain in the top 25 - i hope they stay in the top 25 long enough for the monarchs to knock them out later in the year :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2005, 02:48:32 PM
CNU may well be the 25th-best team in the country, who knows. I would like them to have been a little more in the game yardagewise against Rowan and I'm concerned about the scoreboard result against Salisbury.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 20, 2005, 02:48:52 PM
MC55
Great job....damn you  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 21, 2005, 01:39:11 AM
It hurts for me to say this but its plain to see. As of now CNU is not a top 25 team Pat. Like Narch stated, we are probably there because of the reputation we have built up for ourselves in the last few years (which being a former player I am extremely proud of). But I have to be fair and call them like I see it, and its not that we don't have the talent to be a top 25 team. I just feel that we are extremely young again and more players don't know what it takes to be a top 25 team then those that do. 

On another note the team must put all of their focus on Shenandoah now.  Hopefully we can have a reversal of last year. Last year we lost to Shenandoah, which eventually got blasted by Salisbury, and then we went to Maryland and beat them.

Mosh I know this must suck but it seems like a lot of Dixe/USA South teams always get their first against the Gboro. Imma start calling you guys the "Get Your First Conf Win Crew".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 21, 2005, 08:32:29 AM
cnu85, I agree with Narch.  Until proven otherwise (and I agree with those proponents of not voting a Top 25 until 4-5 games into a season), CNU appears to be the best team in the USAC, 8th best team in the South Region and #25 overall.

You can be hard on them for expectations of excellence, but also I retain  the belief that the CNU coaching staff will have them whipped into shape by the time conference rolls around.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 21, 2005, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 21, 2005, 08:32:29 AM
I agree with Narch...CNU appears to be the best team in the USAC

ralph...i don't remember saying that  ;D

while cnu seems to be the FAVORITE in the conference right now (and every year), i'd hardly concur that they are unquestionably the best team in the conference - ferrum has been the most impressive team and seems to have the fewest holes...of course, they haven't really played anybody, but you can only win the games you have on your schedule and they've been impressive in those wins - i think this will be a four-horse race between cnu, fc, mc and su and it should be exciting
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 21, 2005, 12:22:37 PM
Narch,
  Sorry to get back to you so late.  Its been a busy weekend/ week.  Yeah, we have a new Offensive Cordinator...I think his bio is somewhere in the Gboro site now.  He is a former Auburn/ NFL player...I dont know to much about him beside what the bio says.  Two tough weeks for the Pride with all the picks.  Qtip  is a solid qb who hasnt had very much help in the last few years.  He'll turn it around.  PROUD OF THE PRIDE!

High School wise, we are 3-2, looking to get back to winning tradition we had in 2002 (we produced some serious ballers back then)...

I had the chance to see the UNC Wisconsin game in Chapel hill last saturday, packed house, rad hot girls, and a ton of cheese being thrown from refs...Really, I have seen that many flags thrown in a game but when it happens it makes me question wheter the refs making the calls ever played the game????

And I know the USAC or Dixie has had its fair share of poor reffing!

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on September 21, 2005, 08:00:25 PM
abnrgr: The Rams are not what they once were! Hopefully we have our team on track now, but we will just have to see.

Narch: Finally going to see my first MC game from the stands, this is going to be different!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 21, 2005, 09:57:44 PM
mc55ol - enjoy the game...this will be the only home game i miss this season

picks for the weekend
gc 24 - sova 0 - roberson gets things right against a pretty bad team

m'ville 17 - sewannee 14 - m'ville gets an ooc win against a hapless sewannee team

fc 24 - su 21 - fc running game out-does su running game - expect 700+ yards on the ground in this one

mc 38 - ncwc 17 - great match-up between two best young rb's in conference...williams and hill are both sophs and 1/2 in conference in rushing yards per game - monarch defense will step up and help the offense out - williams will out rush hill by 30 yards, but won't have as many big plays - wish i could be there, but if i can get to a computer, i will do my best to listen in

season pick-'em record 9-5
GO MONARCHS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 22, 2005, 01:47:07 AM
Narch MC55, MOSH see you guys in a few weeks

Deployment to Houston AM tommorrow. NORTHCOM is now master. Got to get FEMA's head withdrawn from their arse. What a drag but better them than us huh?
Take care
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on September 22, 2005, 11:25:09 AM
GC 31  SOVA 7

M'VILLE 24 SEWANNE 17

FC 27 SU21

MC 28 NCWC 17
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 22, 2005, 03:04:35 PM
Johnny...you must use your big boy voice when posting here
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on September 23, 2005, 10:36:16 AM
I assume y'all believers in conference pride noticed that Mark Price, a DB for Maryville, made the Team of the Week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on September 24, 2005, 01:51:55 PM
GC 0  SOVA 21 

8:00 2nd qtr
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 24, 2005, 03:17:50 PM
nuts
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on September 24, 2005, 03:44:11 PM
GC 7  SOVA 35
Final

Turnovers Turnovers Turnovers
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 24, 2005, 05:56:45 PM
wow...losing to sova hurts BAD for gc and this conference...no team in this conference should lose to them at all, and they certainly shouldn't lose by 4 td's

monarchs pull away late from bishops - mike hill goes for 143 and a td - rocket has 72 yards rushing, 191 passing - mc puts up almost 500 yards of total offense but turns the ball over twice (a ball that bounced off a receivers hand was returned for a td early) - not sure if williams was hurt, but he only got 8 carries  and if you take away a big 76 yard run, he had just a total of 5 yards on 7 of those carries- ncwc is sure pesky and it sounds like monarchs weren't able to pull away until the end of the 3rd/early 4th - ehc next week, then it's exclusively conference play from there on - i saw ehc really took it on the chin today - losing woods i'm sure has hurt, but i'm just glad we won't have to see that big rb...he was an absolute beast - go monarchs!

box score (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2005%20Stats/mc0924.htm#GAME.TEM)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on September 24, 2005, 07:34:26 PM
It was truely different watching a MC game from the stands, but its always good to see them win. The game was not as close as the score shows. There was just a feeling that MC was in control the whole time( now that maybe because im a former monarch!). For a team that is switching to a more pass style offense, they sure could still milk the clock with the run.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 24, 2005, 10:20:41 PM
55 - the boys can still tote the rock, can't they - if mc can get the kind of offensive balance they did today for the rest of the season...could be nice - hill has a chance to be pretty special, doesn't he - he's got a gear that few others in this conference have - come find me at the game on saturday if you're there!

abnrgr/mosh - souper bowl this week boys...my prediction is a win by a school with the initials gc
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on September 24, 2005, 10:22:52 PM
I'm sorry but I have to comment...the admission's guy who does the radio for Shenandoah is clueless.  The play by play guy at least knows that he doesn't know much football, but the other guy just drove me nuts with his insane "analysis" of his observations.  

I couldn't make it up to the game, but I was able to hear it on SU's radio link.  Thank you SU for providing such a service, but in your own interest just let the play by play do it by himself.  

Sounded as if neither team should be terribly happy about their performance.  No matter...4-0 Black Hats.  Glad to finally have a home game next week.  Good luck SU next week...keep hope alive!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 24, 2005, 10:38:28 PM
blackhats - you've got some high expectations if you're saying that winning 34-13 at shentel is something that fc should'nt "be terribly happy about" - unless pitts was injured in the win, fc and fc fans should be happy with that w - ferrum is for real and very scary
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 24, 2005, 10:50:31 PM
Well, its going to be a tall mountain to climb for the Hornets now. As bad as the refs were for some calls they did not lose the game for SU. With that out of date ACE-WING they have the Hornets have virtually no offense this year. SU has never been an offensive machine but this year its really showing.  Ferrum shut the running game down big time and it did not help having Frates go down early in the game as well. SU has almost no passing threat. The starting QB for SU was 6-22, 3 INT, for I think 108 YDS. The ridiculous penalties the Hornets are doing the last few weeks also need to stop. I saw one guy slap a Panther in the head. What was that about?? Someone needs to step up and take leadership of this team.
    Ferrum good luck to you the rest of the year. I loved that QB you all have. Just when you think he is down he makes a huge play for the Panthers. The Panthers are for real and Pitts is a beast. Man I wish SU had him.
    Next week wont be any easy for the Hornets playing CNU. But good luck to you guys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 24, 2005, 10:57:02 PM
Wow!!! Its funny how in the first few weeks when SU played cupcakes, Uncle Jessica and SU fans where talking all the trash in the world. Now after two pretty good teams have blasted the girls from Winchester in Shentel, everyone else can see tumble weed blowing over the SU posters. I guess your mind was to much on CNU and not on the team you were actually playing this week. I guess Ferrum really showed that the win from last year was a real fluke. Now its time for you to visit good old Pomoco and hopefully our young Captains can do the same.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on September 24, 2005, 11:17:14 PM
blackhats,

i agree with you about the SU radio guy. I've been complaining about him for years. he really is clueless. he has absolutely no idea what's going on between the white lines. he spends most of his time whining about bad calls against SU. SU could get whipped 55-0 by somebody and he would be whining about the refs and providing excuses. If you belived what he says, SU could beat the N.E. Patriots if, if, if, if, an more ifs. Also, his voice reminds me of some of my 14 yr old daughter's friends........ugh!

Looks like FC is fired up this year. Good luck until the CNU game. I hope CNU takes care of bidness next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on September 25, 2005, 08:12:39 AM
I am quite certain that Davis is not happy with all of the mistakes and extra-curricular actions that took place in the 4th quarter (whether they were initiated by his players or not).  Of course they are happy with the win, but I know that they are well aware that 3 turnovers and 11 penalties will not beat many good teams.  Enter the Cougars for homecoming next week...they will have had two weeks to prepare for the option, so it could be a good one. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 25, 2005, 09:27:28 AM
 I cant understand why Barnes would leave the starting QB, Hoffman in the entire game last night. It clearly was not his night. Barnes should had put in a back up or two late in the game. 1. Simply because it was family night and I'm sure some guys parents would had loved to had seen their kid take a few snaps. 2. Hoffman is the Hornets starter and what if he got hurt? Which he did on the last play of the game. He was on the ground for a while before getting up. 3. Just to give other guys some experience in case they need to make a change later in the season.  I don't understand why you take a chance on your starters getting a major injury so late in the game when the game is out of reach. Im not saying to just give up on the game. But when you have 100 players on a team, when else are the back ups going to get a chance to play?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 25, 2005, 09:34:10 AM
monarchs win with big plays (http://www.fayettevilleobserver.com/story.php?Template=sports&Story=7179115) - hill is off to a really nice start with 396 yards and 5 td's in 3 games...gotta keep him healthy and running well

blackhats - thanks for the explanation - i didn't listen to the game so i was unaware that there were some tempers flaring and that fc had made a number of mistakes...i'd still be VERY happy with that win if i were a panther fan, though, as i'm sure you are - there aren't a lot of undefeated teams left and 4-0 looks pretty good on the panthers -
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 25, 2005, 09:41:30 AM
Mc55....It sure is different to be on the other side of the white lines isn't it.  You going up to anymore games this year?  I'm going to try to make it to HC but who knows what will be going on during that time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on September 26, 2005, 03:33:03 PM
Wow, what great analysis of the SU/CNU game. Anyone have anything else that can compete with that high powered insight?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on September 26, 2005, 06:50:33 PM
DD, it sure was different, but i am happy they are doing well. I will be there for HC, and i may make it to the home one this weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on September 26, 2005, 10:52:41 PM
Ferrum was picked fifth this year, Shenandoah second.  Why do we even have preseason polls?  Does that make Ferrum, if they continue on their current pace, overachievers and Shenandoah underachievers?  I don' think so, but unfortunately fans will think so.  People in the know understand that Ferrum would have been pretty good last year with a healthy QB, and Shenadoah would be better this year with more experience in the position. 

Scrap the polls and play football, because right now there have been only 4 games played and everyone is talking like Ferrum is surprising everyone.  My guess is that they will not surprise Averett with their two weeks to prepare for Ferrum's aggressive defense and option offense.  I think that it will be a very good game, and I can't wait to see if my Black Hats can continue to "Overachieve." 

Good luck to everyone this weekend...I hope that you all overachieve (especially Shenandoah).  I hope that the QB can play this week...remember buddy, they don't give Heisman Awards to scrambling D-III QB's who are losing by three scores with under 5 seconds to go in the game---throw the ball away!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ballcoach on September 27, 2005, 09:54:50 AM
Blackhats,
First of all I would like to say that you are one of the most gracious posters that I have seen. Thank you for the well wishes on the SU QB. Hopefully he will be OK. He had a great year last year..stats... several comeback victories...playoffs...post season honors etc...many variables have changed around him...he works hard as does the whole team and coaching staff. No excuses need to get it done the rest of the way. I agree with you. You guys were a dangerous team last year and much better than the record showed. Good luck!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 27, 2005, 12:50:21 PM
Sportsman ship, Nice.

Never really thought to much about it.
It is for the broadcasters in the booth, and for the mothers.
Great job gents.  Keep up the obseqias dialouge. 

Tough start for the Pride; the graduation of the defense is becoming a glaring weakness.

BEAT GUILFORD!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on September 27, 2005, 06:54:51 PM
If any of the rest of the USA South gets to play Sewanee now that their QB is playing, better not overlook them.  I have no reason to think Maryville is better than average for the conf this year, but that U. of the S. team is not a 1 and 3 bunch now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 28, 2005, 12:31:44 AM
Quote from: scottiedoug on September 27, 2005, 06:54:51 PM
If any of the rest of the USA South gets to play Sewanee now that their QB is playing, better not overlook them.  I have no reason to think Maryville is better than average for the conf this year, but that U. of the S. team is not a 1 and 3 bunch now.

They are still awfully thin.  Contain QB Satterfield and you take care of most of the offense.   I can see 3-7, possibly 4-6 for Sewanee with a few breaks. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan13 on September 29, 2005, 09:02:19 AM
DAVE DAVIS FOR COACH OF THE YEAR!!!

LOL

He has the Panthers rolling thats for sure. I hope they undefeated when they play CNU, it will definitely make for an awesome game, assuming CNU is within striking distance too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 29, 2005, 09:54:22 PM
predictions

fc 38 - au 21 - ferrum runs roughshod over au defense and improves to 5-0
cnu 27 - su 12 - cnu had an off-week to prepare and get things right
ncwc 27 - m'ville 24 - if j. williams isn't healthy, reverse the score
gcq 24 - gc 13 - too many turnovers by pride, and quackers are starting to figure some things out
mc 34 - ehc 27 - woods for ehc is getting healthier, but they still don't have a running game and  will struggle to stop the monarchs...should be a good game - let's see how effective the muc system is with ehc players and find out for certain how much difference a coach makes (hopefully some of the monarch players remember that d3football.com's preview picked ehc ahead of mc based almost solely on the hiring of a new head coach :))
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on September 29, 2005, 10:20:03 PM
Predictions: 

Ferrum will play Averett this weekend.
Shenandoah will play CNU this weekend.
NCW will play Maryville this weekend.
Greensboro will beat Guilford this weekend 27-20
EHC's head coach realizes that players are better in Ohio than they are in SW VA, and Methodist makes him wish he was still there with Kehres.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 30, 2005, 09:25:34 AM
blackhats...you went out on a limb with those first 3 predictions, didn't you :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on September 30, 2005, 03:22:17 PM
GC 31  GCQ 27  Souper Saterday for the Pride

FC 35  AU 17  Ferrum is just better

M-ville 24  NCW 16  this one could go either way

CNU 48  SU 14  I have no idea why

MC 21  EHC 20  im guessing a missed extra point will decide this one

ROLL PRIDE!!!  let's get this thing turned around
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on September 30, 2005, 10:24:41 PM
Good luck tomorrow everyone.  And for those playing out of conference, represent the USA South.  There should be some very tough contests tomorrow.  I'll try to let people know the score of the Ferrum game at the half and/or once it is final. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 01, 2005, 01:05:05 PM
Nothing like a 90-yard td return on the opening kick-off for the Captains
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 01, 2005, 01:19:57 PM
And now after a SU blocked punt, CNU returned the ball 18 yards for a TD. 14-0 CNU with 627 left in the first.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 01, 2005, 02:59:55 PM
Scores anyone???

CNU 27, Shenandoah 0 with 2:18 left in the third.

Last I heard, Averett was beating Ferrum 13-6.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 01, 2005, 03:44:21 PM
  The Hornets made things at least interesting but numerous blocked punts, poor passing and the run being shut down for 3 quarters, plus some stupid penalties of 15 yarders once again at the end equals a beat down by the Capts. Not too much went right for SU. I hope now that the USAC tittle is out of reach for the Hornets, Barnes will start looking at some players for next year.       
  Its time to start looking to the future. Barnes also needs to start looking at the one demential style of play they have. That absolute boring to watch ACE Wing is a terrible style to have when you get down in the game. The Hornets pride themselves in running the ball on 6 to 9 minutes a drive and you just cant do that when you are down. Because of this style the Hornets choose to play its very hard to come back and win when you get down 14 or more points. Its all fine and dandy if you are leading but you have to have more than one weapon to be successful. They have built the team around the run and when it gets shut down they have just no way of getting back in the game because of no passing game.
  Good luck to the Capts the rest of the year. Hopefully you wont have any major injuries the rest of the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 01, 2005, 04:09:56 PM
I agree UJ. I was at the game. when SU was down 14-0, then 27-0, they kept running the ball. There doesn't seem to be a game plan for coming from behind. That allowed CNU to focus on stopping the run.

Good news for CNU...Philip Jones will be back next week. He was the starting QB at the start of the season. Hudson Bryant went down in the 1st half. CNU then had to go to their #3 and #4 qbs. Morgan had a bad day. Faison was jittery. Thank you Hilliard for stepping up and taking the pressure off of the qbs.

The D was fired up all game. I think the D line is really coming together. Games like today help the O line come together as well. Hilliard had 129 yds.

2-0 in the conference...CNU is starting to wake up. And my pre-season prediction could be looking right. I predicted a 2-2 start, dropping out of the top 25, then finishing with an 8-2 record and a top 15 ranking.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 01, 2005, 04:10:25 PM
Go AVERETT...

27-27 in third qt!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 01, 2005, 04:53:23 PM
monarchs win 55 - 21 - ehc scored late to get to 21 - 2nd teamers played entire 4th quarter - monarchs were very impressive - hill had 28 carries, 150 yds and 2 tds- rocket was 8-11 for 123 and had a 59 yd td run on the first offensive play - monarchs were up 9-0 after the first 5 plays getting a safety on the first ehc series and then scoring on the first offensive play and never really looked back - they could have scored 70 today if they wanted to...very impressive showing - woods for ehc looked pretty good, but they finished the game with just 20 some yards rushing, and that was after they rushed for 40+ in the 4th quarter - ehc was just outmanned and could not come close to matching the monarchs team speed - on to averett next week...any news on au/fc game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 01, 2005, 04:55:02 PM
48-40 Ferrum...about 7 min left in game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 01, 2005, 05:08:14 PM
Ferrum scores again with 3 min left. It's over. Nice effort by AU. FC can be scored upon. 55-40
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 01, 2005, 07:08:34 PM
I guess certain players on the CNU team made sure that a fluke BS 4th down and 5 25 yard TD pass wouldn't beat us this year.  Its a team game but Rob Rodriguez started the game with a bang by returning the opening kick for a TD and didn't stop their as he blocked another kick for a CNU TD.  CNU lost a lot of players from last year but even with our offensive woes we still showed SU how much better we are then them.  SU got some scores late in the game to make the game look closer then what it actually was but the outcome was sealed in the 2nd quarter when CNU built up a 27-0 lead. I guess FC and CNU revenged their fluke losses from last year in a big way.  Its also SO funny how much crap SU fans talked all summer and after the first 2 weeks when they were playing scrubs. Now that they have played a good FC team, the Odac champ, and the true USA South  champ they now have 3 losses and once again you can see nothing but tumble weeds from the SU posters.  Good luck to CNU for the rest of the season and continue to take everything one game at a time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 01, 2005, 10:24:32 PM
Sorry for not providing posts this afternoon, but I couldn't log on for some reason at Ferrum.  Averett offense had its way with Ferrum defense today.  Ferrum was missing two DB's and a LB, so the young'ns had a difficult time of stopping their passing game.  Averett came to play offensively, but their defense (even though they were physical at times) showed that they had no answer for the option.  Two Averett scores were on the Ferrum offense...a fumble insid the the 15 that was returned to the three and an interception inside the 25.  Ferrum also had difficulty in the punting game with two near blocks (one Ferrum ended up running for a first down and another that the punter was tackled for a loss).  Not a very good game defensively, but a win nevertheless for the Panthers.  690 yards of total offense for the Panthers!!!!!!  450 for Averett.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 01, 2005, 11:02:17 PM
sounds like the fc/au game was a barn burner - fc offense certainly had a nice day - parsons has done a really good job for au since swann went out - the monarchs will see each of these teams on the road the next two weeks - i hope they wore each other out today and that the hangover from today's game lasts at least 2 weeks for fc

here is the box score (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2005%20Stats/mc1001.htm#GAME.QCK) from the mc/ehc game - looks as though gcq pulled out a 1 point win vs. gc
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 01, 2005, 11:17:43 PM
congrats to cnu on the win today, as well - captains are showing that they are still the team to beat in the usasac - capt. fans have to be happy with the running game today, particularly with hilliard topping 100 yards - i knew he was too good a back to keep him bottled up all season, and unfortunately for the rest of the conference, he looks like he might be on track
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on October 01, 2005, 11:46:33 PM
GC 35  Guilford 36

let them come back late in the fourth
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2005, 08:33:33 AM
speed kills (http://www.fayettevilleobserver.com/story.php?Template=sports&Story=7188603) - game summary from the fayetteville observer
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ACMob on October 02, 2005, 11:41:52 AM
Way to go CNU!!  Ya got them Hornets off your back!!  Good luck the rest of the way and win your conference!  Rowan fans respect your squad!! ;D

Come to the 'Boro next year! ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 02, 2005, 12:23:23 PM
Thanks ACMob. It was long over due but everytime they come to Pomoco we really embarrassed them. Just because they have beaten us 3 out of the last 5 times by a combined 11 points. SU and their fans have been really high on their team and belief that they were without a doubt the best team in the USA South.  Its amazing how 2 really dominate wins at Pomoco have shut up the fans from SU and have them in week 5 already talking about getting ready for next year. Oh I love it when SU has nothing to say.  Like I stated all summer, the only thing that SU has done over the years is beat good CNU teams and now since they can't hang their season on that their team and their fans have nothing to cheer about.

Uncle Jessica where are you now. I told you all summer that when the ladies from SU come to Pomoco that we would show you who was the real champ of the USA South. Now let us continue on with our hunt for a 5th straight title while your girls look forward to next year.

I know some others may say I am going overboard with rubbing this win in SU fans faces. But when you constantly have to hear a very average team talk about how good they are because your team absoultly blows it every year at Shentel. Then they end up getting the win by throwing a TD on a 4th down and 5 prayer, that gives them the win by 4, and then they have the nerve to right in their article that SU showed the USA South with the win over CNU who is in fact the dominate force in the conference.  Well I say So What, we have dominated SU just like every other good team on their schedule and have exsposed them for who they really are. A BUNCH OF SCRUBS.   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 02, 2005, 03:26:03 PM
Can the 5-0 Ferrum Panthers continue the streak!!!

If they improve their pass defense, and cut way down on the penalties, it can be done.

Prediction for the next game...Ferrum 45  Maryville 17

Why does it seem that everyone thinks that CNU is a shoe in...Dont sell the Panthers short...or Methodist for that matter. If Ferrum can beat Methodist in 2 wks., the stage will be set for a war at Ferrum between the Captains and Panthers. Will the Panthers get ranked??? They have already finished half of their season undefeated, and have a win over a division II team...Chowan

GIVE THE BIG BLACK CATS IN THE BLACK HATS SOME RESPECT !!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 02, 2005, 04:01:55 PM
Allen C no one has said anything bad about Ferrum. Ferrum has a pretty good team but the problem with their 5-0 is that they have played no one. When CNU first started getting ranked we beat teams like Mcdaniel, Bridgewater, and played a good team like Rowan really close.  The rankings really don't mean anything but you can't gain national respect until you beat nationally respected teams outside of the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 02, 2005, 04:15:38 PM
According to the Massey Ratings, Chowan is 148th out of 148 Div II schools.
And the Laz Index has Chowan at 143rd.

As much as I would like to give props to Ferrum, the win over Chowan isn't much to brag about. Chowan is Division II in name only, not in strength and ability.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2005, 04:18:10 PM
Yes, does anyone really think Chowan is so much better than last year, (http://www.d3football.com/school_info.php?school=Chowan&year=2004) when they were 1-9 as a D-III team and lost to Ferrum 44-0?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 06:31:11 PM
True, I'm not sure that Ferrum is any better than they were last year.  They are just winning games they lost last year.  Chowan is better than they were last year, because they have transfer scholarship players.  Ferrum is very young, but to date they have played fairly well (at least offensively).  Defensively, the young secondary will continue to improve, but right now they are not very good.  Team speed on the defensive side of the ball is lacking, and it is quite possible that Maryville or Methodist will be able to expose it like Averett did.  I do think that Davis and his staff do a very good job with what they have, because they are rarely playing with a large number of upperclassmen.  Every team that Ferrum plays seems to have four or five more coaches as well, so I really believe that they are doing a masterful job at the mountain. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2005, 06:55:18 PM
You can claim those players made them better but it doesn't make it so:

Saturday     3     Randolph Macon College     Ashland, VA   W, 16-13
Saturday    10    University of Virginia at Wise    Wise, VA     L, 20-54
Saturday    17    Ferrum College    Murfreesboro, NC     L, 23-46
Saturday    24    Newport News Apprentice    Murfreesboro, NC     L, 14-28
October
Saturday    1    Southern Virginia University (Homecoming)    Murfreesboro, NC     W, 20-0

This doesn't scream out that they're substantially better than last year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: power0tech on October 02, 2005, 07:34:30 PM
Somebody up in the booth for CNU is sleeping on that freshmen nose guard.
Who's playing behind 5 other freshmen ??? :- What does it take ?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2005, 07:43:24 PM
Lemme guess -- if we go to CNU's roster and look at the defensive linemen we'll find a freshman named Macklin? What member of his family are you?

Do people understand that their e-mail addresses are posted on their profile? Does anyone read the Terms of Service??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 02, 2005, 07:49:44 PM
Hey CNU's Finest...I have to agree with everything you said. I guess I will always love the black and gold, and hope they can continue to play as they have been playing.

Iwould like to think that Ferrum can be 9-0 when our teams play. I will definitly be at that game. I see Methodist as a big obstacle for both of our teams.

It will be interesting to see what CNU does and how bad they beat AU this coming weekend.

Hey, how do you get the school logo on your messages?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 02, 2005, 07:53:15 PM
Can two teams from the USAC go to the playoffs?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2005, 08:02:45 PM
pat...you're brilliant
Quote74 Julius Macklin Fr. DL 5-10 357 Chesapeake, VA  Oscar Smith  
...he's certainly a big 'ol boy, though

allen c - i don't think you've been reading the board or the front page (around the nation, etc.) enough over the last few weeks - ferrum has been getting much love - i think everyone in the conference respects what ferrum can do, especially on offense with a healthy pitts - i hear what you're saying re: comparative scores vs. ac, but i don't put a lot of stock in that theory...of course if i did, ferrum beat ehc 29-13 while the monarchs beat ehc 55-21 :) - that being said, though, if you don't think that cnu is the favorite in this conference, you're crazy - they are a team that plays an incredibly tough ooc schedule and has every resource possible...great facilities, great coaches, great athletes, lots of depth - they can be beaten, but it takes a good team giving it's best effort to make that happen

and yes, 2 teams from the usasac COULD go to the playoffs (it happened last year) - i doubt it would happen this year, though - cnu is the only team in the conference that has played a really strong ooc schedule, and if they didn't win the conference they would have at least 3 losses...i don't see a 3 loss team making the playoffs without the benefit of the aq - even if ferrum were to go 9-1 with the only loss to cnu, i don't think the ooc schedule is strong enough
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 02, 2005, 08:03:36 PM
Hey Pat,

Your are also right that Chowan is probably no better than they were last year, but I mentioned Ferrum beating them because I thought that something like that could have a bearing on rankings.

An example would be if for instance William and Mary(1AA) had beaten UNC last year...which they almost did, or had they beaten Marshall this year, it would have certainly had an effect on their ranking.
I guess that there are lots of teams in lower divisions that can still be better that the weak teams in a higher division.

Marshall nor UNC are considered weak compared to W&M. I guess thats the difference
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 08:10:48 PM
If you throw out the Randolph Macon game (1st games are always tough to read), then the rest of the results are about right.  Chowan used to not be able to put any points on the board, but at least this year they can claim that they can put up some lights on the Chowan side.  Trust me when I say that they are indeed better (schematically and in personnel).  With Chowan only being one year removed from D-3, be quite certain that there aren't ANY D-3 programs in Virginia this year that could win at UVA-Wise either.  

It really doesn't matter if you are trying to use it for justification or credibility for Ferrum.  Ferrum is, in my opinion, better coached and plays harder than many of those teams.  They have some players, but not bodies like Chowan, Shenandoah, or even Averett and right now Ferrum is a better TEAM.  They have players who play hard, are physical, and have learned to win.  Will they win them all?  No one knows, and I'm sure that Maryville and Methodist are eager for their shots in the immediate future.  However, in the meantime the Panthers and their fans are proud of their season thus far.

Ferrum deserves some accolades, but I think that most Pantherites are conservative in their recognition of the 5-0 start.  You can only play the teams on the schedule, and to this point they've beaten them all (not pretty always... but neither is Hampden Sydney or Bridgewater, who happen to play in a pretty weak ODAC, but for some reason they always seem to be ranked).  

If you like comparing year to year so much, how is Wesley doing this year?  Ferrum should have beaten them last year (lost by one) and beat them soundly the year before.  Year to year comparisons are worthless at this level, so we must all realize that past success or failure at the D-3 level determines a lot less than it does at the scholarship level.  Tradition doesn't win D-3 football games in the south, teams do.  Therefore, it is my opinion that teams should be ranked--not what they have done or not done over the past two or three years.

Pat, I expected more out of you.  You are the voice of what is good about D-3 football---not what is bad or not up to par at the scholarship level.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 02, 2005, 08:15:43 PM
Narch-

You are right, and I am quite pleased with the coverage Ferrum has been getting on D3.com
CNU is definitly the favorite, and your mentioning their resources, and facilities opens another can of worms....They are a State supported college. Are any others in the USAC getting tax dollars to fund their school? I am not trying to be controversial, but it does seem to give the CNU the opportunity for resources that the priivate schools dont have.

Just a thought. any validity????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 02, 2005, 08:27:49 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 02, 2005, 08:15:43 PM
Narch-

You are right, and I am quite pleased with the coverage Ferrum has been getting on D3.com
CNU is definitly the favorite, and your mentioning their resources, and facilities opens another can of worms....They are a State supported college. Are any others in the USAC getting tax dollars to fund their school? I am not trying to be controversial, but it does seem to give the CNU the opportunity for resources that the priivate schools dont have.

Just a thought. any validity????

Hey Pat,

Is this the first time this angle has ever been explored? ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2005, 08:35:35 PM
Quote from: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 08:10:48 PM
Pat, I expected more out of you.  You are the voice of what is good about D-3 football---not what is bad or not up to par at the scholarship level. 

And your credibility comes from where? We covered Chowan the past six years -- it's clear (unless you're a Ferrum fan desperately trying to make a point) that they are hardly ahead of last year.

But let's try a different tack: What do you make of the Wesley game against Averett and the Ferrum game against Averett?

Allen, the point is our voters know that Chowan has been Division II for a grand total of about six weeks. They know Chowan is essentially a D-III school with one recruiting class that has scholarships. It's not at all akin to W&M beating a I-A school.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 02, 2005, 09:08:37 PM
Ok
So I know CNU is the favorite to win the USAC, but I am wondering if there are any predictions or guesses about the Methodist @ Ferrum game?

And how to you get the helmet logo on your message?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 02, 2005, 09:27:17 PM
The Methodist vs. Ferrum game will be like it always is....a tough battle the whole game with whoever makes less mistakes coming out on top.  The Monarchs and Panthers always get after each other pretty good and a lot of their games have come down to who can make the big plays in the 4th quarter.  I would give the edge to MC this year because it seems their offense is much more balanced this year than in the past but then again I am a little biased  ;D.  Looks like Coach Sy is finally allowing Rocket to do some damage with his arm as well as his legs.  Can't wait to get up MC and see a game.

Narch any significant injuries in Monarch Camp?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2005, 09:32:48 PM
allen - my prediction is that the fc/mc game is 2 weeks away and if the monarchs get caught up in that game and look past au, it won't matter :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 09:33:00 PM
Your point validated my point...thanks Pat.  Comparing scores and past games in past seasons is futile.  Realize that there is no desperation in Ferrum...we are just validating that we are better AT THIS POINT than the "experts" predicted that we would be; and we deserve some recognition like the others in the south (VA specifically) who have started their seasons out well in the past four or five seasons.  

Ferrum dominated Shenandoah just as much as Bridgewater did, so should they be ranked ahead of BC who lost to the McDaniel who had to take 2OT to defeat mighty Catholic?????  See, all of the comparisons are illogical.  Just give respect to the Panthers for winning five...we are in no way claiming the national championship or even the USA South championship, just that in 2005 we have done the job that was asked of us.  

Will it take 10-0 before the Panthers will gain respect?  I guess by then Bridgewater will have lost one more to one of the great teams of the ODAC but still be in the top 20.  Truthfully, BC has done nothing this year to warrant that rating.  Their recent success over the past 7-8 years has gotten that for them, and hopefully Ferrum can rebuild some consistency to accomplish the same.  Neither team deserves to be ranked at this point...and you know what, neither does any other team in America.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 02, 2005, 09:33:10 PM
Allen C I would say that by no way CNU is a lock to win the Conference title. CNU has a very young  this year and even with the guys from last year they found a way to loose one conference game. I think what people mean to say when they make reference to CNU and the conf. title is that if a team wants the title they will have to beat  CNU to take it.  If you remember 2 years ago CNU went to Ferrum with an undefeated conf. record and the #1 seed in the south region playoffs on the line and choked.  The Ferrum and Methodist game should be an interesting one and it seems to close to call right now. Another thing that has yet to be seen is how the young Captains play when they take the show on the road. The young guys have played four games with and average of 3500 fans to support them. It will be interesting how they react to the overnight trips,l ong bus rides, and much smaller but a few hostile crowds that hate their guts. I can remember the intense game we played at Methodist last year, their fans talked a lot of smack before the game and it was obvious that we were not liked at all. MC came out fired up forced a turnover a proceeded to drive it down the field for a score. Only difference was that our veteran guys settled down the crowd by making big plays on offense and shutting down the high powered Monarch offense in route to a 24-10 win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 09:37:59 PM
OBTW Pat...Chowan is still well ahead of where they were last year...Twice as many wins half way through. :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 02, 2005, 09:40:22 PM
Good point Blackhat...Wish I had thought of that
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 02, 2005, 09:42:24 PM
Narch

I know what you mean...I am not real confident that that cant happen to Ferrum v. Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2005, 09:47:03 PM
Because Chowan played Southern Virginia this year and didn't play them last year. So what?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 09:53:12 PM
Bridgewater played G. Mason and did not play them last year...why did they jump up inthe ratings---maybe because it was a win????  A win is a win, and five is five.  For every rebuttal that you have I'll find another...so what?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 09:59:00 PM
The polls are flawed...how can undefeated McDaniel who beat Bridgewater at their place be ranked below them...illogical.  Where is the sanity?  Polls must die.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2005, 10:00:10 PM
blackhats - what exactly are you looking for for fc? ferrum is being talked about more on this board and on d3football.com than i can ever remember - they're recieving top 25 votes - there are TWO people actively posting about ferrum (getting internet access that far in the woods was a tricky thing, i'm sure :)) - a few of us have talked about what a great option qb pitts is - what additional affirmation of ferrum's success do you need?

i do agree with your points about some teams being ranked on the merits of past success, but that's the nature of rankings - i think you're picking on the wrong odac team, though - the fact that hsc BARELY beat guilford makes me wonder about them - they'll probably go 9-1 and make the playoffs, though

papi - rayford and mcswain came out of the game on saturday - coach sy said both could have come back, but with a big lead there was no reason to risk either of them - both are important, especially in the return game - nevin had a 32 yard punt return on saturday and is averaging around 13 yards per punt return (and the freshman back up did not look good, although i think returning punts is the hardest thing to do in football...takes some stones) - mcswain had a 97 yard return for a td and spells mike hill, so the monarchs need both of those guys healthy
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2005, 10:02:49 PM
Blackhats,

Please continue to argue points about which you know nothing. It does wonders for your credibility.

1) McDaniel has had major injuries since beating Bridgewater and is not the same team that took the field in Week 1.
2) George Mason is an exhibition game. It doesn't count. Most of our voters don't even know this event took place.

You should stop. You have no idea what it takes to vote on a national ranking.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 02, 2005, 10:03:48 PM
Quote from: narch on October 02, 2005, 10:00:10 PM
they're recieving top 25 votes

Darn it, narch, I was researching that very point when you posted it!  :P

I can't find a single instance in the past two years where Ferrum has even been mentioned in the voting, and the fact that they are getting votes speaks volumes about how far that team has come.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2005, 10:06:41 PM
my bad, make that 2 1/2 ferrum posters...legacy, i can't figure out if wabash guy or a ferrum guy, so i'm making you a 1/2 ferrum poster :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 10:10:47 PM
No kidding Pat (club football never counts), but it is obvious that the polls don't reflect the outcomes of head to head competition (injuries or not).  They reflect what people across America read and don't see.  We don't have national tv so that the voters can see for what they are voting...they like me check the scores and read the write-ups.  Most of your voters vote for tradition, what they have read, or what they have heard.  How about I get in on the voting?  Believe me when I say that I am a lot more knowledgable than any SID out there.  Maybe then logic and research can be thrown into the equation...of course that may be too illogical for d3football.com.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 02, 2005, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 09:33:00 PM

Will it take 10-0 before the Panthers will gain respect?  I guess by then Bridgewater will have lost one more to one of the great teams of the  ODAC but still be in the top 20.  Truthfully, BC has done nothing this year to warrant that rating.  

Not the best Analogy Blackhat! An ODAC loss for BC is always possible but considering BC is 31-1 with a 30 game ODAC win streak since 2000 your prediction is highly unlikely. ;D

In defense of the Top 25, its all a product of the system. You start with a pre-season ranking which IS based on the previous year's performance and this year's prediction. Then as long as those teams start with a quality team, even a loss will not drop them far. Either you shock the world like a Thiel beating W&J at #6 or you slowly work your way up the ladder. In BC's case it took a shocking play-off victory at W&J and an overtime loss at Trinity in the 2000 playoffs to break onto the national scene and into the Top 25.

BC would love to introduce the Blackhats to the topend of the ODAC come November! ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 02, 2005, 10:15:00 PM
Well this being my first day on the board, I must say I have enjoyed the points and counter points as everyone supports their favorite school.

Hope I have not been overbearing. Gone for tonight.

Thanks again for the enjoyable postings. Pat this is a great forum!


GO FERRUM
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2005, 10:15:57 PM
blackhats - please, answer my question...what are you looking for for fc? top 25 votes? more publicity? or do you simply want people to continue to talk about the panthers here on post patterns?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2005, 10:17:59 PM
Quote from: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 10:10:47 PM
Believe me when I say that I am a lot more knowledgable than any SID out there.
...and, as llamaguy points out, you're predicting a bc regular season odac loss???? to whom?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 10:18:43 PM
Narch, I just like arguing tonight.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2005, 10:21:26 PM
Quote from: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 10:10:47 PM
Most of your voters vote for tradition, what they have read, or what they have heard.

That's the AFCA poll you're thinking of. We provide our voters with a great deal of research each and every week. Our voters are reminded each and every week of McDaniel's win at Bridgewater and what the teams' records are today. They also are reminded that McDaniel barely escaped 1-3 Catholic.

Again -- you have no idea.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 10:24:07 PM
Thanks for reading my posts so intently...the BC losing in conference was a hypothetical point.  If they lose to W&L and are still ranked then I will be hot.   >:(  The point was that BC gets too much credit for two really good seasons in an ever-weakening ODAC, thus the polls don't truly reward the schools that are winning this season (i.e. Wesley---they would walk the dog on the ODAC).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 02, 2005, 10:24:49 PM
Quote from: narch on October 02, 2005, 10:06:41 PM
my bad, make that 2 1/2 ferrum posters...legacy, i can't figure out if wabash guy or a ferrum guy, so i'm making you a 1/2 ferrum poster :)

Making me a 1/2 poster is fair, narch.  ;)  I'm a Wabash graduate, but my longtime girlfriend is a Ferrum grad, so I've definitely got a foot in FC's corner.

I'm still learning a lot about the school and the team, so I would balk at calling me a full-time active poster when it comes to the Panthers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 02, 2005, 10:27:23 PM
I tell you of what I do have an idea...thanks for the cathartic release tonight, Pat.  This was just what the doctor ordered.  Thanks for this forum and all that you have done for the promotion of D-3 football.  Even though I don't agree with your evaluation of how to determine good football, I do respect you and your opinions.  Thanks again and go Panthers!!!!!! ;)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2005, 10:46:09 PM
Not a problem -- and although you might not agree with the result, our track record is the better of the two major polls. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 03, 2005, 12:52:45 PM
Pat,

What's up with CNU losing 24 votes?

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 03, 2005, 01:48:31 PM
Swish,

Haven't you been reading the posts? It's all in the research and you will NEVER understand!!! Heck, if Blackhat will never understand and he is beter informed that most SIDs in the nation, how can a public school flunkie like you ever hope to attain the level of intelligence required to understand the lost 24 points?

;D
Title: Hey CNWho!
Post by: pakownr97 on October 03, 2005, 02:31:05 PM
How ya been my friend.  Our pro teams both look like crap don't they?  I hope I can say crap on here.  If not, sorry Pat, but his team is the Vikings and mine the Packers so the description fits both.

Our college teams look ok so far, but your board knocking the ODAC is kinda unfair.  What has any team in the USASAC ever done in the playoffs?  You guys beat us once, I think, but the ODAC is so weak that doesn't count according to your friends here.

Oh well, good luck in your conference.  May BC and CNU meet in the playoffs (I'd like to play at our house this time!).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 03, 2005, 02:38:19 PM
I posted this on the ODAC thread in response to someone else complaining (jokingly or not) about Bridgewater being ranked higher than Ferrum:

Lets put Ferrum's 5-0 record into perspective (which is what I believe the voters do):

Between 2001 and 2004, Ferrum went 21-17 overall, 14-9 in the USAC.  The two years they were one game from getting to the playoffs ('01 and '02), they lost to CNU in the final game of the season.

Over that same span, Bridgewater went 43-7 overall, 24-0 in the ODAC.  Made the playoffs all four years, and not only got there, but had seven wins over those four postseason appearances.

So you think voters shouldn't go off previous years?  Okay, forget previous years.  Lets talk just 2005.

Ferrum has gone 5-0, with wins over five schools with a combined record of 7-16 (7-11 not counting the Ferrum losses).  The 7 wins Ferrum's opponents have were against schools with a combined record of 4-29 (4-22 not counting the 7 losses).  Now this is where it might get a tad confusing, but bear with me.  Of the four wins that Ferrum's opponents' opponents have, they were against schools with no wins on the season.

So you see, voters don't just look at what record a school has, or even just what schools the wins were against.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2005, 03:05:09 PM
It looks like they were at the bottom of a lot of ballots (24th or 25th on about 10 ballots) and might have fallen victim to the need to get North Central and Thiel into consideration after their impressive wins.
Title: What's good!!
Post by: va83 on October 03, 2005, 04:37:43 PM
We have chowan hater up here!! We will be @ CNU homecoming on
Oct 15!! Holla at your boys!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: va83 on October 03, 2005, 04:42:07 PM
CNU is not good tis year!! Yall don't even throw the ball to the receiver u have!! And Chowan is going to mess up u guys homecoming!! Holla at ur boy!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: va83 on October 03, 2005, 04:45:12 PM
CNU is not good tis year!! Ferrum is going to win usa south!! They have a good team!! Pat stop hating!! Chowan has up at halftime against Ferrum 19-14!! Holla!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2005, 04:45:37 PM
va83: Check out D2football.com (http://www.d2football.com). :)

How is it we went six years with basically no Chowan posters and now that they're gone for six weeks they discover us? Just our luck...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: va83 on October 03, 2005, 04:48:00 PM
Ferrum is going to smack CNU when they play!! Ferrum is nice!! Both of the qb's r nice!! CNU is too slow!! Holla at ur boy!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: va83 on October 03, 2005, 04:51:12 PM
Ms. Pat da game against was closer than last year!! Chowan was up @ at halftime 19-14!! And chowan is 2-3!! So, before u talk go check them out!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: va83 on October 03, 2005, 04:52:27 PM
I accept the love that u gave to Chowan!! U guys r going to win the USA south!! And is going to give CNU the business!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: va83 on October 03, 2005, 04:54:36 PM
Chowan is putting up like 350 yards a game on offense!! CNU is not going to stop Josh Floyd!! I know that for sure!! So,  Mr. Pat stop hating!! Holla at ur boy!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2005, 05:05:44 PM
Alright -- perhaps the shortest-lived poster in history. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: luvapontiac on October 03, 2005, 05:51:33 PM
Sounds a lot like that Johnny Reb idiot
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 03, 2005, 07:20:07 PM
Hey kid

The info you provided on Ferrum opponets w/l records and how it affects the polls is very interesting. I cannot disagree with you, but I do think its important to point out that Ferrum was picked to finish fifth in the USAC this season.
We are not nationally ranked yet, nor are we assured of finishing fifth or better, but we Panther fans are greatful and hopeful that by just focusing on one game at a time, that there is enough talent to carry the team to the USAC title. Even if it means a scoring fest like this past weekend with AU

Panthers are real...real close to 6-0 that is!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 03, 2005, 08:16:52 PM
Looks like the the Oct 15th game against Methodist will be Ferrem's next hurdle, then onto the battle with CNU.

Why is the Oct 15th game at Franklin H.S.? just curious ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: power0tech on October 03, 2005, 11:07:47 PM
va83 it's obivious that you are a freshmen to this, because if you think that Chowan has a chance to win any games against the USA schools , then you are crazy, even Josh Floyd dosen't believe in you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 03, 2005, 11:26:38 PM
Hey Llamaguy-

I have no Idea. Ferrum has no lights, so that limits them, but why cant they play during the day.

I will get in touch with the SID and let you know.

As for the Methodist game, I have my fingers crossed. I cannot get there for that game, but will be there for the CNU game. (5 hrs.)

Keep Postin'

Go Ferrum!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 04, 2005, 02:04:51 AM
As you guys know, at the D-3 level money is a huge concern (that is why Ferrum did not play Wesley this year--too far to travel when they already have to travel to Maryville).  Because Franklin County HS does not have a game that week, Ferrum and FCHS saw it as an excellent chance to tap into the fan base of all of Franklin County and make a little money.  Should be a great game, but unfortunately some of us will not be able to make it because it is not on Saturday. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 04, 2005, 02:58:54 AM
Wesley would've been a home game. Ferrum wouldn't be traveling to Wesley and Maryville in the same fiscal year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 04, 2005, 07:49:14 AM
Here you go about something that you don't know...Ferrum would have had to renew the contract this year, which they did because Guilford had initially dropped Ferrum.  But when Guilford called and wanted back on the schedule, it was either get Guilford now or lose them for at least two years.   Guilford = 1 hour and 25 minutes / Wesley = 8 hours plus...not a hard decision. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 04, 2005, 07:50:19 AM
Also, no overnight expenses for Guilford.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 04, 2005, 11:54:16 AM
Yeah -- what I know is Wesley scrambling for a game in April after Ferrum made a real late decision. Good thing? Don't think so.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 04, 2005, 11:56:49 AM
Although in retrospect, Wesley upgraded its schedule in the process, picking up DePauw, and beating them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 04, 2005, 08:12:14 PM
Roll Pride!

[TOUGH TOUGH START]
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: enzoneking6 on October 04, 2005, 09:29:03 PM
Hey BlackHats,

Maryville dropped us to play ya'll because they felt that you guys were a easier opponent. If your school was in the ODAC you would be down there with the Catholics and Guilfords.

Before you can say anything about BC make the playoffs and play a worthy non-schedule opponents because McDaniel would whoop yall.

Congrats, Craig Ford - For USAC defensive player of the week. Lynchburg in the house!!!

Cordero McDaniel - Get some burn ;) and "Apply your Rules"-Landis
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 04, 2005, 09:43:27 PM
Please wise up and understand that Ferrum had to play D-1AA's and D-2's (ex. Western Carolina, Charleston Southern, West VA Tech, Westminster, UAB, Dayton) throughout the early 90's because no one else at the D-3 level would play them.  They beat teams so badly in the 80's and early 90's, they were in turn punished in the long run.  Because they had no options, the program struggled.  Finally, things have (at least in the short term) cycled back through, so there should be no shots taken at the Panthers, because they have travelled from Stonehill to Courtland State to Montclair to UAB because no other teams (including the beloved Bridgewater during the glory days of Max Lowe) in the south would be big enough to step up to the challege.  There were even two seasons where Ferrum couldn't get but nine games...so get off your sanctimonial pedastals and accept things for what they are.  Ferrum has won 5 games and deserve to be on top for a while, because the school took it on the chin for D-3 football in the south for 10 years.  Shut up and quit hating on the Panthers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 04, 2005, 10:31:53 PM
I'll go ahead and add Clinch Valley, Thomas More, Ithaca, and Wagner too.  Albeit they are not all scholarship...it does let you know how far Ferrum was having to travel to find a game.  So again, don't preach to me about schedule and who we play...at least our success goes back further than the year 2000.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 04, 2005, 10:34:12 PM
One more thing...same coaching staff that had to schedule those games over the past 15 years is scheduling these games today. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 04, 2005, 11:04:21 PM
How does your early-90s scheduling have any bearing on 2005, when you only need to schedule three games a year? Come on now, let's try to stay relevant to the conversation. at least. Wesley could say the same thing, but they were the ones left scrambling at the last minute.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 04, 2005, 11:26:24 PM
Why are you giving Ferrum such a hard time.  They had to make a decision in the best interest of their school and their football program...money talks, and unfortunately Guilford held all of the cards in this situation.  What has Ferrum done for you to continuously attack them over the past week.  We haven't done anything but suggest that to this point we have had a good season.  I guess if or when we lose you'll be the first to say you were right.  The 90's have a lot to do with the state of things and they are quite relevant.  If you had any understanding of the history of anything then you would understand that.  The point was that the Ferrum football program has had to sacrifice over the past 15-20 years and they made a decision that was in the best interest for Ferrum.  Drass understands...why can't you?????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 04, 2005, 11:38:41 PM
Respect D-3 football...not just for what it is but also from where it came.  Small college football was around long before you were sonny, and it didn't just get started when you started this website. 

Bridgewater owes Lou Wacker a bunch for taking it easy on them for all of those years, because they at E&H too had to go through the same dilemmas that Ferrum did...unfortunately for them they are still going through them. 

I respect E&H because they are the only school with enough gumption in the ODAC to play Ferrum through the good and the bad.  Everyone else dropped them last minute and played Galludet. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 04, 2005, 11:46:04 PM
Are you sure Drass understands?

I have plenty of understanding of history. However, unlike you, I also have a little perspective on how it's relevant today. If you are using scheduling difficulties of 15 years ago as an excuse for dropping Wesley to add Guilford back to the schedule, hey, I hope it helps you sleep at night.

In the end, though, it means your current 5-0 record is a lot less meaningful. That's all. But when you're griping about lack of respect, it helps to have played someone like Wesley instead of someone like Guilford.

Quote from: blackhats on October 04, 2005, 11:26:24 PM
Why are you giving Ferrum such a hard time.

Because Ferrum fans are giving us a hard time. And specifically you are giving me a hard time. You've spent the past four days bickering with me over what you think I know, what you think the pollsters don't know, what you think Wesley's coach feels about scheduling (I'm not sure you have any idea there). I was following Division III for a long time, too, before you even knew what the World Wide Web was.

You want to be a crank? Fine. But you're not going to get any more respect from me and I'm not going to pay any attention to your rantings about the early '90s, the cost of travel, club football results, what you think I know about Chowan, etc. At least there are some more realistic Ferrum fans, such as Allen C and even the student government president -- reasonable beyond his few years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 05, 2005, 12:12:51 AM
My gripe is not about the lack of respect given to Ferrum--it is the inconsistency about how teams are addressed (i.e. Chowan) on your website.  The arguing started when you continued to attack the schedule of Ferrum and the strength of Chowan---have you seen Chowan play this year?---I have and they are better in many areas!!! 

Nobody stated that Ferrum should be ranked.  I still don't think that they should be ranked--nor should anyone in VA.  However, I do think that it is appropriate to understand that you have not one bit of sense about the particulars of football.  You are just a simple character with a license in rhetoric.  You are a member of the media who has probably never played a down of football in your life (forgive me if you happened to play pop warner and for me not doing my research on your life history).  You seem to think that your word about D-3 football is the word of law. 

Do you think that it will ever occur to you that if you are an expert on D-3 football and I should extend to you credibility, then maybe I am an expert on Ferrum Football and you should reciprocate the credibility...of course not, because that is not what people in the media do. 

Your know-it-all attitude typifies what is wrong with sports and the media today.  "Wannabes" who have an elementary basis of knowledge of the sport who try to dictate to others what they should think about certain teams.  Your propaganda about Ferrum dropping Wesley is a feable attempt to add credibility to your assessment of why certain teams do better than you predicted. 

Why don't you just state things as they are, rather than the way you would like them to be.  Once you find some age and wisdom check back in with us educated in the world of football and let us know why you were wrong.  In the meantime, let us who are finally having some much deserved success enjoy it. 

OBTW...Mike understands...if you would like his office number I can oblige!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2005, 12:24:19 AM
You could be an expert on Ferrum, or on public waste and conservation for all I know, but Ferrum is one program out of 231. That's my point. You know more about Ferrum for probably 20 years' worth than I do -- that's great. Congrats. There is more than one school in Division III, and this is why we are on D3football.com and not Ferrumfootball.com. Perhaps you should put your expertise and your glory days in pads (I assume such from your rhetoric) to use and build a Web site instead of trying to tear mine down.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: power0tech on October 05, 2005, 03:10:08 AM
Well Pat I guess we are both right about Big Juice.  I don't think you have seen him play yet, what a shame if you haven't.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 05, 2005, 06:49:49 AM
Whatever...you have no reading comprehension skills.  I'm not trying to bring down your site.  I'm just letting you know of your (conscious or unconscious) flaws in the analysis of the operations of football.  Don't be so harsh on my school (essentially calling them chicken because they play Chowan and dropped Wesley), and I won't be so defensive.  If you are going to throw punches you had better be ready for me to put my hands up at some point too.  Suck it up and don't be such a baby.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 05, 2005, 07:11:03 AM
Just so you know, I am not an expert on public waste.  However, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night and I know that the things that you are spitting out on here are biased and flawed.  Stick to the things that you know...statistics---not football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 05, 2005, 09:55:03 AM
Blackhats made some valid points.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: usacer on October 05, 2005, 10:45:08 AM
What's wrong with the media is them having the courtesy to give you this free forum for you to bash them on? Not sure that came out right but you know what I mean. Yeah, moshergc9, he makes some valid points but he's not 100 percent right either. I don't remember reading anyone saying Ferrum was chicken for scheduling Chowan, just that Chowan wasn't a full D2 school.

And I don't think that was even Pat Coleman who said that, blackhats. That's one of your fellow Ferrum fans.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: usacer on October 05, 2005, 10:46:01 AM
47 posts? Junior varsity? Man ... I got blown up in the changeover.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 05, 2005, 11:53:55 AM
Ya'll are getting all worked up over nothing.  But that is nothing new on here.  Pat, everybody appreciates the forrum.  Ya'll do a great job. 

This reminds me of a sunday school story where you can take the easy path and pick on the rural panthers or take the harder path that leads to righteousness. 

I never really like Ferrum or any other school that I played against.  They do have a solid tradition though.  I remember when my brother was playing hs ball and chowan and ferrum were on his juco list.  They were both solid juco programs.  My point is even though I never liked them, I respect them because they played hard.

My team this year really needs to pull it together.  Football is a sport that requires you to dig deep, and my brothers and friends in Greensboro need dig themselves out of a hole right now.  It's easy to point fingers when your not doing well, the real men in the pack in Gboro will work harder everyday to get themselves out of this debacle.

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 05, 2005, 11:59:31 AM
Thanks Mosher.  I don't intend to create hostility, but I am proud to defend the guys who deserve respect.  It is not appropriate for the moderator of this discussion board to find bias in anything that he reports.  He should spend more time moderating and less time picking on the little guys.  I guess if we moved our school up I-81 just south of Harrisonburg, then maybe we would garner more respect.   Anything further south than that makes you Rodney Dangerfield.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 05, 2005, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: blackhats on October 05, 2005, 11:59:31 AM
Thanks Mosher.  I don't intend to create hostility, but I am proud to defend the guys who deserve respect.  It is not appropriate for the moderator of this discussion board to find bias in anything that he reports.  He should spend more time moderating and less time picking on the little guys.  I guess if we moved our school up I-81 just south of Harrisonburg, then maybe we would garner more respect.   Anything further south than that makes you Rodney Dangerfield.

You would get more respect if you would quit carping about some supposed bias and focused on other things.  Just because you think something is biased doesn't make it so.  It's obvious to any outside observer which of the two of you is biased, and it ain't Pat.   

Winning some playoff games will get you respect.    Until then, Ferrum's just another decent squad which has yet to defeat anyone of consequence. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 05, 2005, 12:43:24 PM
Back from Texas. Missed all the goings on.

I see the GC-Q got the GC guys. Finally.

As I said in the beginning of the year HSC cannot get that BC monkey off their back.

I played against Hank Norton's boys in the 70's when I was at Lees-McRae. They (Ferrum) were the hardest hitting and most brutal games I ever played in....ever. No mercy asked or given. I did get pretty hard against Tennessee's JV's one year. Maybe that's what's wrong with me.

Narch-Your boys may just bad dudes after all. I
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on October 05, 2005, 12:53:18 PM
Narch-what do you think of the guys so far?

Ferrum fans dont get to upset about the lack of respect you feel that you are getting.  You have to beat ranked teams to get respect, thats just how it is. Good luck to you guys, untill you play MC of course.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 05, 2005, 12:56:27 PM
Abngr,
 Welcome back...Did you get a chance to fix everything that was broke down the coast?

I guess we both missed the hurricane of a game played last weekend.  Dissapointed to see the picture of the tree huggers carrying away the soup bowl.  The spoil goes to the victors.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 05, 2005, 01:44:12 PM
Hey Pat, I had seen over on the ODAC page that CUA wants to install SprinTurf. I remember a few years ago SU wanted to install something like that but I haven't heard anything for a while. Have you heard anything about this? Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 05, 2005, 02:13:45 PM
I say it one more time...we don't care about the respect factor...it's the disrespect factor that chafes my hind parts.  We haven't done anything to deserve either. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 05, 2005, 02:38:00 PM
Okay this whole thing has gone on for to long. As far as I have read I don't think anyone on this board has said anything to disrespect Ferrum. If memory serves me right I think all of this came about when Ferrum poster where wondering why they were receiving no love after going 5-0. Lets see they are ranked above CNU in the polls and Pat and company put a picture of the Panthers on the cover of D3. So I don't know who is disrepspecting Ferrum but if someone is I can't see it. What I have learned from playing at CNU is respect is won on the field. We won our conference in our first year and when we went to the playoffs we thought we were HOT SH#t and we thought that we would make Widener pay for not taking us serious. Bottom line is Widener had every right to not take us serious because when game time rolled aroung they really showed us that our record was a direct result of play very average teams. What I think is most funny about this argument is before the season really kicked off you never really heard anything at all from a Ferrum poster. Not trying to offend you Blackhat but it is amazing how 5 wins against some very below average teams will make Ferrum poster really think that they are back to the good old days of the late 80's and 90's. Bottom line is if your team keeps winning then they will get there shot at gaining national respect. But just ask Salisbury that shot also has its disadvantages as well.  Going undefeated against cupcakes in the regular season and then playing a good team in the post season will result in a " I told you so from the D 3 experts" after the first week. The best team on Ferrum's schedule this year is CNU and as our two losses showed us we have to come a long way before the end of the season to beat playoff caliber teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 05, 2005, 02:59:10 PM
I was not the Ferrum poster who started this respect in the rankings thing.  Ferrum doesn't deserve anything at this point, because honestly they are not THAT good...however, neither is Bridgewater or Hampden Sydney but they seem to get all the love they need.  The ODAC is vastly overrated from top to bottom, and this scheduling concept is quite similar to that of every other team in the Top 25...especially Bridgewater. 

I just take exception to someone trying to justify to me that Ferrum is weak because Ferrum didn't do something right in scheduling (i.e. dropping Wesley).  There are 9 division 3 schools on Ferrum's schedule...quite comparable to the rest of the teams in the nation. 

Ferrum is 5-0, so what?  But don't tear us down by claiming that we softened the schedule.  Decisions were made for financial reasons and 5-0 is 5-0.  Ferrum isn't scared of Wesley...they haven't stopped the zone option in four years!!!! 

Who knows 5 wins may be the pinnacle, but what happens if 9-0 comes to pass...will it still be our soft schedule? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 05, 2005, 03:17:09 PM
MOSHY
Yea it would make me sick too if I did not know the players and coaches are the only normal people on that campus. The players are good guys. Its just the rest of that crowd.

The state of Texas was alot more squared away than another state that will go namelss. There were more knockout babes per capita there than I ever seen. My lord!! There is some money in Austin

I am surprized that Narch's boys blew out EH. SPANKAGE. Could be we jumped on that EH wagon or maybe just maybe MC will casue alot of hate and discontent this season. Keep Rocket healthy and who knows' Might just get in the show.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bman on October 05, 2005, 03:36:37 PM
finest

Was at the game at Widener, that you mention.  You should also mention, that although the game got out of hand, alot of us(WU faithful) were very impressed on how you and your fans handled that... and you guys never gave up...I spoke with a few parents at half...they were happy to be there regardless......classy bunch

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2005, 04:14:46 PM
Uncle Jessie:

I don't know, sorry.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 05, 2005, 08:26:12 PM
Abngr,

   I was in Austin in July.  By God, brother from a differant mother: if you sent some of the fairy pink hairs from the Guilford campus there they would turn straight for at least a day or two.

The contiental club was pretty sick...and I was pretty sick the next day.

Anyways, We are up on the Series if my memory serves me true.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: JT on October 05, 2005, 08:37:01 PM
By pink hairs... do you mean the Energizer bunny?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 05, 2005, 10:39:48 PM
Mosh, a good trip to Wilmington might "straighten" :o some of them Quackers out but I've got enough fruitcakes here to deal with so they can stay in the boro!

Anbrgn, if that nameless state is the one I "visited", saying it wasn't squared away is a vast understatement!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2005, 12:58:45 AM
Congrats to Rob Rodriguez on being the first ever Captain honored as a D3 football player of the week. 

On another note where are alll of the Hornet faithful, over the summer you guys were telling everyone that they would be catching the buzz this year. Now it seems like we are catchings some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's because we don't have any post to read from you guys anymore. Whats the deal?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 06, 2005, 10:14:29 AM
Admiral
Your boys were truly valorous. Flying without a JFACC or pathfinders for air space management at night under goggles being shot at extracting "citizins". Balls the size of Alpha Centari. (sp)

Yes MOSH the Quackers would become heterosexual in Austin

Now somebody beat the hell out of those Hank Norton mutants :)


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 06, 2005, 07:48:06 PM
ABN, yeah us small boat coxswains are always given the fly boys a good ribbing for being up in that warm cockpit while we're out in the elements wet and freezing  >:( but them boys sure can hold the stick!

Narch, I hope the weather we've had this week hasn't moved the boys into the old tin gym for practice.  Don't want anyone missing the game this week for asbestos poisoning. :o

MCOL hows the season going up there in the Oak?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on October 06, 2005, 09:21:31 PM
GC  27  CNU  24
upset city
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2005, 10:26:58 PM
 ;D ;D Ha Ha it can happen but the Captains aren't as dominant as they were in 03 and 04 so I don't thing this group is looking past anyone. With that being said I think the Captains will go to 3-0 in the conference with a big win over Gboro. GCMan considering the Pride have scored about 24 points in the last previous four games combined against the Captain D. What makes you think they will score 24 in one game this year when they are obviously struggling against weaker opponents.

CNU 35-GC 7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on October 07, 2005, 12:08:57 AM
hater....lol,  you gotta believe man!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on October 07, 2005, 12:00:26 PM
DD- I think Sy finally let the idea of going to the tin gym die!! The Oak isnt doing so well this year. We have some talent, but we are just not getting it done.

Ready Ready Monarchs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 07, 2005, 12:24:40 PM
WOW   :o Shenandoah forfeited the game aganist CUA for use of an ineligible player?  Check out "Notables" on the front page.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 07, 2005, 12:53:14 PM
Props to Shenandoah!

IMHO, the matter is closed! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 07, 2005, 01:06:31 PM
Couldn't agree with more Ralph.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on October 07, 2005, 01:21:16 PM
Could this be the week Wesley cracks into the d3 polls if they beat FSU?  It would good to see two ACFC schools in the d3 national polls.  ;D  oops wrong conference  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 07, 2005, 01:25:07 PM
This is a quote from the SU web site on this matter

"We were waiting for his official transcript to arrive to confirm his eligibility. This transcript arrived but was not checked until September 16, the date that all of our student-athletes had to be certified for USA South Conference play. We regret this rules violation and have made the appropriate changes to our eligibility verification policies to insure that this does not happen again. All transcripts will now be checked prior to September 1, the first allowable date of outside competition."

What in the world is going on? It looks like a bunch of clowns are running the athletic dept. & football program. It does not take a genius to know you should check the transcript before the season starts. That excuse of waiting before the USAC games to check on transcripts is ridiculous. SU deserves to be the butt of all jokes this year.

After finding out this Im shocked how the USAC could kick Chowan out of the conference for "not being up to standards" when it comes to testing scores. You all know Iam Hornet fan, but no excuse for this.




Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2005, 03:22:18 PM
Right, I read that quote in the Notables story that was cited earlier. :)

What disappoints me, I guess, is this line:

"This transcript arrived but was not checked until September 16"

Ouch -- that hurts. They had a chance to get it right but missed their opportunity. The thing is, there are only two players in Shenandoah's stats listed as playing the Catholic game but no other, Bowman and Fitchett. Doesn't look like either guy had a large impact on the game. Shenandoah would have won without the ineligible player, I'm pretty sure.

Oh well. Tough price to pay for insufficient compliance procedures.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 07, 2005, 03:48:30 PM
You are so right Pat!!!
   The ones who have a tough price to pay unfortunately are the players. They do all that is told of them from day one. Go through summer workouts, work hard on the field, go to practice every day.
    I feel bad for the student that was declared ineligible because he most likely feels like he let the team down. But its not his fault at all. He did what was told of him to get his transcript in on time. This falls clearly on Barnes' lap. The captains and fellow leaders of the team better come together to make sure this team wont fall apart.
They were already having a tough season and Im afraid that because of something like this a lot of in house fighting could start and an attitude of an "I don't give a ----" could rise up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2005, 03:51:51 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 07, 2005, 03:48:30 PM
This falls clearly on Barnes' lap.

I wouldn't go that far. I think in most departments this is the compliance officer's area. Not sure who that is (and don't really care, frankly) but it's almost never the football coach.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 07, 2005, 04:04:35 PM
It may not be all his fault yes. But as they say the "buck stops here." I don't know what to say to tell you the truth. I just cant believe that this happened  >:(    Someone clearly was not doing the job given to them.

Pat, is this a common thing in D3 to check on transcripts only when conference play starts? I cant believe it is.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2005, 05:54:07 PM
I have no idea, sorry.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 07, 2005, 11:01:54 PM
wow - i go away for a week or so and come back to see blackhats STILL moaning - give it up, dude - nobody has disrespected ferrum...just stated the truth...they haven't beat a team of consequence yet - you can say all you want that chowan is better, but they're still not good...they MIGHT win 1 game if they were still in the usasac - i've talked to a few coaches who say they actually have less TALENT, even with scholly's (can't get non-qualifiers on the field the first year in d2 like they did as a d3) - ferrum IS extremely talented, though, and could make a run at the usasac title - pat is not biased AGAINST ferrum, but he clearly isn't biased FOR the panthers, either...that's the way it should be - lose the paranoia and enjoy ferrum's 5-0 start :)

uncle jesse - there is a very simple solution to the su problem...at mc a player doesn't even PRACTICE until he/she is declared eligible...seems like a reasonable policy for any school - this is unfortunate for the hornets players because avoiding the situation is SO EASY
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 12:04:19 AM
predictions

fc 41 - m'ville 27 - scots can't handle fc running game
cnu 38 - gc 10 - pride turn the ball over too much on offense, don't get enough stops on defense
mc 38 - au 20 - monarchs remember tough trip to au 2 years ago...can't have a repeat
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 01:43:21 PM
monarchs sound flat, down 14-2 in the 2nd quarter...gotta get going, boys
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 01:46:14 PM
Capt's up 21-7 to start the second quarter. CNU scored on its first three possessions and threw an INT on the fourth poss.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 01:52:13 PM
9-yard touchdown pass by the Pride. Missed the PAT, score is now CNU 21-13 with 13 mins left in the first half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 01:59:07 PM
averett really winning the field position battle, pinning the monarchs deep most of the day and forcing mc to drive the field...which hasn't happened - averett d-line is really stacking the run and rocket hasn't stepped up in the passing game - this team needs to have a sense of urgency or any hope of a conference championship will dissolve in the rain today
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 02:00:19 PM
GC missed a 40-yard FG with 837 left until half. CNU has the ball in its own territory.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 02:13:28 PM
14-2 au at the half - mc blocks a fg on the last play of the 1/2...maybe they can use that as a momentum builder going into the 2nd half - coach sy will rip them a new one in the locker room...let's see if he can get this team motivated for the remainder of this game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 08, 2005, 02:17:12 PM
Narch, we always seem to come out flat in the first half.  Could be be that long bus ride in the morning.  Hopefully the boys can pull it together in the 2nd half and get it done!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 02:22:50 PM
Jay Graham misses the 25-yard field goal with 56 seconds left in the first half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 02:29:32 PM
Capts lead 21-13 at the half over G'boro. Graham missed a 25-yarder in the quagmire with under a minute left in the half.

Anyone have a Ferrum/Maryville score??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 02:32:34 PM
M'ville just scored to go up 21-14 on the Panthers with 830 left in the first half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 02:32:53 PM
papi - i hope you're right...hill has 70 yards in the first half, but did fumble a ball which led to the 2nd au td - monarchs have the ball at the 50 and need to punch this first poss. in the end zone
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 02:40:34 PM
someone please explain to the au announcers that mc doesn't run draws...they're inside hand-offs out of the shotgun in the spread - hill with a 40 yarder and the monarchs are driving after trading punts in the first 2 possessions - need to score here
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 02:43:20 PM
mike hill with a td at 9:48 of the 3rd...nice drive, and defense needs to stiffen - au leads 14-9
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 02:47:56 PM
defense gives up a 65 yard bomb and 2 pt. conversion...great way to answer au, now 22-9 au
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 02:56:32 PM
3rd and 3 deep in au territory and the monarchs decide to throw the ball...sacked for an 11 yard loss and au has 2 first downs on 2 plays...c'mon boys, get it right
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:10:33 PM
monarchs just can't stand success - every season it seems like they come into a big game and shoot themselves in the foot - averett is really controlling this game, and if mc somehow comes back to win, they do not deserve it - au did just miss a 33 yard fg, keeping this a 2 score game, but mc has to do something with the ball QUICKLY and they need to make a stop on the defensive end
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 03:14:50 PM
Roland Hilliard scored on a 3-yard run with 1 and change left in the third quarter. CNU leads 28-13.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 03:15:17 PM
Also heard at halftime, its 28-28 Mville/Ferrum.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:19:04 PM
there's the offensive td on a qb keeper...now the defense needs to force a 3 and out (which hasn't happened today) - 22-16 averett
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 03:22:01 PM
CNU just fumbled up by 15 to start the fourth quarter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:24:19 PM
monarchs had just forced an incomplete pass on 2nd and 8....then get a roughing the passer penalty, automatic first down...NOT GOOD
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 03:25:15 PM
NARCH-----
    HOW MUCH TIME LEFT!!!  YOUR KILLIN ME!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 03:27:34 PM
Roberson losses control down on the goal line, gets it back, and throws a pick on 4th and loooooooooooooooong.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:28:17 PM
BIG stop on 3rd and 1...then get an illegal substitution call giving averett a first down - 10 minutes left in the game - LACK OF DISCIPLINE
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 03:30:46 PM
Thanks narch.

Capts with the ball on their own 1 yard line, up 28-13 with 10 mins left and will punt.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 03:31:51 PM
Barcus' punt blocked, recovered by CNU in the endzone and a safety for GC. Its 30-15 CNU with around 10 mins left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:31:58 PM
love averett's play calling - mc blitzes up the middle expecting au to run the ball and run the clock down and they hit a screen for about 25 yards and they're throwing on the next play...very aggressive!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:34:59 PM
the flip side of that aggressive play calling is that au threw incomplete on every play that drive, leaving a lot of time on the clock - monarchs get the ball at the 20 with 8:32 left and a chance to take the lead
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:36:53 PM
hill fumbles on the au 30...just can't stand success - 7:30 left - defense needs to step up and give the offense another shot - hill has 140+ yards but 2 fumbles today
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:44:40 PM
au first and goal inside the 5 - parsons has had a great day...he's really stepped up and played well - big run on 2nd down to set up 3rd and short - false start negates a fumbled snap that the monarchs recovered...tough luck today for mc as that has happened 2 times in the 4th quarter - averett STILL throwing with under 5 minutes left and time to milk some clock...interesting  because 3 incomplete passes leaves time for mc - i'm all for aggressive play calling, but if there was ever a time to run, this was it - au SHOULD attempt a fg, but going for it on 4th and goal from the 9
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:45:35 PM
pass incomplete and the monarchs have the ball at the 9 with 4:30 left...i change my statement from earlier - if au loses, they deserve it because of that play calling...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:46:50 PM
au interception returned for a td, but there is a flag...interference and first down mc...maybe luck is turning a bit
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 03:47:44 PM
Still 28-28 Ferrum/Mville (last check) with about 400 mins left in the third quarter. Capt's still up 28-15. GC has the ball and driving with about three mins left in the fourth.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 03:49:30 PM
A holding call on the Pride negates a TD pass. Ball on the 16 yard line now, first down.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:50:40 PM
monarchs driving at the mc 41 with 3:30 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:52:04 PM
mc has 3 to's left and is throwing on every play - i think they need to try to run the ball some so that au doesn't just pin their ears back and pass rush...1st down on the au 45
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 03:52:46 PM
CNU knocked away two GC passes on third and fourth down. CNU with the ball under two to go.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:53:45 PM
pass complete to mularski and a 15 yd facemask - monarchs have the ball at the au 13 with 2:27 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:55:22 PM
mike hill scores a 13 yard td - tied at 22 awaiting the xp....GOOD! - monarchs 23 - au 22 - defense HAS to hold
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:58:05 PM
big return for au on a reverse - au is in mc territory at the 47...wow...WHAT A GAME!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 03:58:34 PM
Final, CNU 28, GC 15.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 03:59:12 PM
congrats cnu on the win - monarchs get ANOTHER personal foul giving au a first down - 1:59 left - au gets a 26 yard td on the next play - about 1:45 left - au should go for 2...let's see what happens
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 04:00:33 PM
Damn, I should be listening to that game!!!  Sounds like a barn burner in Danville, narch!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 04:02:01 PM
cnufan - here is the link
http://www.averett.edu/statistics/cougarlive/football.htm - 2pt conversion is no good, so a td wins it for the monarchs - hats off to au...they've answered every monarch drive with big plays
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 04:02:16 PM
Ferrum is leading M'ville now, 35-28 with about 12 mins left in the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 04:07:17 PM
rocket has run for 2 first downs and got out of bounds on this drive - 1:10 left and ball on the au 35
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 04:08:50 PM
3rd and 10 after 2 nearly intercepted passes...sands makes a catch at the 3 on a snap that rolled passed roncketti and was thrown up for grabs...  :42
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 04:09:05 PM
This is a helluva game to listen too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 04:09:51 PM
This one is over.  I predict a MC score, especially with 40 secs left and on the 3.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 04:11:04 PM
spread 'em out and run a qb draw...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 04:11:38 PM
There you go.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 04:12:43 PM
roncketti scores...au has a very good return game and mc has struggled in kick coverage - larkin put 4 balls in the endzone vs. ehc and he needs one of those in the worst way right now!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 04:15:04 PM
And didnt get it. AU takes over at the 30 with 14 secs left. 2nd down
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 04:21:55 PM
roncketti shows the leadership of a senior on that last drive - that was ALL him with his arm, head and legs - HUGE, HUGE drive...could be the drive that saved a season...certainly kept the monarchs in championship contention - down 22-9 going into the 4th quarter and win 29-28...nice - averett's coaching staff can lay that blame SQUARELY on their shoulders - 1st and goal at the mc 4 with under 4:45 left and they throw 4 consecutive passes - i don't even question going for it on 4th down because of field conditions - 3 running plays though, would have meant at least 1:30 being run off the clock and the monarchs don't have time to make the comeback - i'll take it - a 4th quarter comeback win on the road in a tough place to play (au was undefeated at home last year) - now the attention can turn to ferrum...wow - great job au...2 straight years the cougars have given mc EVERYTHING they could handle
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2005, 04:22:46 PM
Congrats to the Monarchs, they didnt give up, great job, came to play late, but better late than ever!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 04:26:55 PM
rocket was 1-7 for 16 yards in the first half, 12-19 for 166 yards in the 2nd half - hill carried the ball 32 times for 177, 2 td's and 2 fumbles...man, that had to be an amazing game to watch in person - i'm exhausted LISTENING to it
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 08, 2005, 04:37:19 PM
Well I figured MC by 17. I guess a W is a W. Keep him healthy. Congrats you Monarchs

Mosh- Sorry dude.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 04:40:48 PM
any m'ville/ferrum updates?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 08, 2005, 04:54:42 PM
Abngr,
  Sounds like we are playing better though...Still tough year..

Roll Pride!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 08, 2005, 04:55:31 PM
Ferrum 56-34
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 08, 2005, 04:56:43 PM
looks like FC will have a tuff time with rocket...could be a good one though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 08, 2005, 05:04:12 PM
Listeneing to Maryville's coach as I type on their sports channel. Sounds like their QB was knocked out....cold!  However, they did rush for 265 yards against FC. SOunds like the dreaded Panthers are a little open to the run. The last thing he said we got MC as homecoming. I could lie and start some sh&^ but he did not say anything for the locker room board. The number of HITS they talked about sounded like FC brought some hat.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 08, 2005, 05:46:11 PM
Dang Narch I'm worn out from just reading your post...Its probably a good thing I wasn't near the computer listening to this because my laptop would have probably gone airborne on more than one occasion. 
Great win for the Monarchs today, sounds like Rocket just decided he wasn't going to lose today and put the Monarchs on his shoulders!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 08, 2005, 07:16:57 PM
Honestly, the Ferrum defense is open to everything---they just don't have very much team speed...as a matter of fact, the Maryville announcer said that Ferrum was the least physically imposing team that they had seen all year.  They just don't have the horses healthy on defense yet.  Now the offense is a different story, but yet they are still one injury away from being average again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on October 08, 2005, 07:42:13 PM
Good game today but missed to many scoring chances in the fourth.  We had 1st and goal on three staight possesions in the fourth and didn't convert.  I give CNU defense credit though, they bent but they didn't break.  All I know is there is no way GC should be 0-5, just ask CNU.  Look out Hornets!

ROLL PRIDE!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2005, 08:37:02 PM
what a game (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/averett.htm) - mike hill is on pace for the best season ever for a monarch rb - just 22 yards short of season record set by d. west - box score (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2005%20Stats/mc1008.htm#GAME.IND) - averett certainly got it done offensively...4-1 feels good - big game next week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 08, 2005, 09:14:34 PM
Gcman,

  There is always a game that you should have, could have but didnt win.

Need a W!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on October 08, 2005, 10:28:24 PM
Mosh that is true, but you know SU can't beat us!

ROLL PRIDE!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 08, 2005, 11:01:26 PM
HAts
Was not dogging the (FC) boys. They always HIT. I ran into a few of them in the 70's  ;)I was giving some idea of what a MC FC game will look like. a 42-40 affair probably.  Narch needed info quickly and I jump when he says Monarch

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 08, 2005, 11:49:14 PM
abnrgr,

Should be a good one...we'll see.  Early edge should go to Methodist though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 09, 2005, 12:50:52 AM
I also jump when I hear Monarch but I think its just my hemroids.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2005, 08:18:12 AM
fayetteville observer story (http://www.fayettevilleobserver.com/story.php?Template=sports&Story=7198923)

blackhats - i think you've got to give fc the edge based on home-field, friday night, etc.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2005, 09:43:18 AM
My biased feeling is that Ferrum will win in a mild upset. I think home field will help, but only if the students drive 10 miles to the game and dont decide to stay on campus and party.

Ferrum in another high scoring affair, but it could go either way.

FC-34
Meth-31
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 09, 2005, 06:41:36 PM
Ferrum may lose to Methodist (it will be close), however after the open week they will be able to get some very important people healthy (a fullback---even though Hawkins is doing really well and he is no doubt the starter, two DB's and a DL and LB--so like the excuses made for McDaniel with injuries, Ferrum should be a deeper team in three weeks [hopefully 7-0]).  My long range expectations...Methodist beats Ferrum, but loses to CNU and Sheandoah=Ferrum and CNU for all the marbles the last game of the season.   Get it done this Friday Black Hats, and let's get better in the weeks to come.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 09, 2005, 06:45:34 PM
Mosh
I had to give you one for that one. Ah Karma

42-40 MC over the dreaded Panters. You heard it here (caveat: Rocket does not get his sternum driven into his spine and out the back with his transverse colon attached)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2005, 08:46:09 PM
Can anything be gleaned from the Methodist/AU game-score? Can that be used as an indicator as to how Ferrum should handle Methodist?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: power0tech on October 09, 2005, 09:10:49 PM
Nice win again for CNU, it seams that every year they play at Jamieson Stadium, GreensB. brings there own officials for the game.  And the game is always physical to the point it's beyound football clean play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on October 09, 2005, 09:57:00 PM
power, what are talking about?  i was at the game and except for one personal foul CNU was getting all the calls.  GC even had a TD called back in fourth because of some BS clipping call
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2005, 09:58:33 PM
forgot to mention this yesterday, but the crew calling the au/mc game was outstanding - very knowledgeable and fun to listen to

allen - i think ferrum just has to play their game...run, run, run, and then run some more for good measure...then  every once in a while pull the ball out of the fb's belly and try to hit silk on a seem route - the monarchs have to play disciplined assignment football on the defensive end - this should be a great game - vegas has posted ferrum as a 5 1/2 point favorite, but i'm sure that will come down as some folks around the country start betting the monarchs :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 09, 2005, 10:36:04 PM
Narch,

If we were to take our karma numbers to determine the winner of the Ferrum/Methodist game---Methodist will win by two touchdowns.  Nobody loves me!!!!  Oh well, go Panthers!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on October 09, 2005, 10:39:27 PM
Methodist by 3!!!

Wish i could make it to that game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 09, 2005, 10:43:05 PM
OBTW,

The ol' reliable d3football.com poll has Hampden-Sydney with more votes than Ferrum.  As I recall Guilford came a lot closer to beating them than they did Ferrum.  Common opponents usually are good comparative tools.  Let's see...Ferrum 41-7 and HSC 47-45.  Sounds like HSC sure does deserve more respect than Ferrum.  Nice voting ODAC jock sniffers.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 09, 2005, 11:01:17 PM
Here's another interesting thing us jock-sniffing stat geeks can make comparative scores say:

Ferrum 29, Emory and Henry 13
Hampden-Sydney 44, Emory and Henry 6

I am aware E&H got its second touchdown in garbage time. Still looks like Emory and Henry came a lot closer to beating Ferrum than it came to beating Hampden-Sydney.

Definitely keep up the insults. It's very mature.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2005, 11:21:40 PM
blackhats - you just can't give it up - be happy that ferrum is receiving ANY votes...hsc has gone 9-1 for like 700 straight years and is only getting 5 more votes than ferrum - they are getting fewer votes than a 2 loss cnu - polls don't matter unless your in them (helps recruiting) - stop the whining and be happy with the respect the panthers are getting - if they keep winning, i suspect fc will be ranked
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blackhats on October 09, 2005, 11:59:23 PM
Not an insult...just stating the facts.  By the time that HSC played E&H, the Wasps had already packed it in.  You are right though, E&H scored with just a few seconds left with Ferrum's 2's and 3's on the field to score to make it 13. 

Again, if it was Methodist or anyone else in the USA South who was ranked behind HSC I would be making the same argument.  Ferrum does not deserve any more votes than they are getting, but where is the justification for BC and HSC? 

If we are basing it on just 2005 then maybe we should reevaluate.  If it is history like narch says, then my guess is that Ferrum wins that battle even though it is not the year 1305 AD (=2005-700).  Ferrum football, although it hasn't been around since 1893, is much richer in tradition than HSC...again their success like BC's has only been in the last 5 years.  Before we start staking claim on history, maybe we should understand that history shouldn't determine everything about the present. 

Hampden Sydney's schedule is weaker than anyone's in the USA South year in and year out, however they continue to be considered for ranking.  Maybe you guys relate better to HSC and the preppy sweater vests and life without women.  We in the USA South enjoy living with women and playing hard-nosed football.  Have a nice evening Biff.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 10, 2005, 12:00:31 AM
last thought on the weekend - i hope the mc coaches/sid nominate roncketti for offensive potw - i know hill put up some nice numbers (177 yards and 2 td's), but the monarchs lose that game without the "hop on my back" attitude of their qb - if he were to get conference potw i think it would send the right message...it's not just the numbers you put up, it's what you do for your team when it counts - that last drive COULD be huge at the end of the season (or, if the monarchs don't take care of business, it's a really nice comeback in an otherwise unspectacular year :))
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 10, 2005, 12:04:21 AM
Quote from: blackhats on October 09, 2005, 11:59:23 PM
Not an insult...just stating the facts. ... Maybe you guys relate better to HSC and the preppy sweater vests and life without women. 

That is not actually a fact.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 10, 2005, 12:15:46 AM
Hats
I know Guilford football. (Sorry to say) As I mentioned earlier the HSC-GC score was an aberration. GC has a scant history of winning seasons. There is an institutional (shall I say a twisted helix) lack of killer instinct. There are some great guys at GC but not enough of them. They cannot win. Using that score as a comparison has too much of a DELTA. It does not fit with GC.  Conversely Ferrum has a history of one the greatest JUCO programs in the country. They stepped up to D3 and so far has not won a national championship or gotten the 2nd or 3rd round unless I missed something in the time I was in other countries. The point is the voters have these histories in the back of there minds and winning records. They remember FC as a JUCO that has not stepped up to plate YET. HSC (which I hold no great love for unless they are representing the conference) has had a monkey on their back for 6 years: BC. If BC was somewhere else well HSC would be in the show too. As Narch said they go 9-1 and sit at home. Try that for 3 or 4 years. When FC pays those kinds of dues that HSC pays then you have a gripe. They are going to have to kick in like men to get the votes. But votes don't mean jack if you can win.  Maryville had 258 yards against them this past weekend. GC of Tenn. Those guys who vote look at that too. I like your loyalty but think with the brain when calling the "BALL". I still love your enthusiasm.

Narch
Is there anything I can for you bro? BTW I found a punt returner. 4.5 40 but has football speed. He is wriggler.

Papi, MOSH. Watch Narch for me he is starting to get rabid..........for some football
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 10, 2005, 12:22:44 AM
Without Rocket MC is 4-6 3-7. They better show some love there. Intangibles man intangibles not just yds passed for... :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 10, 2005, 12:33:26 AM
bh - since ferrum became a 4 year institution, they are 118-84-1, including a run of three outstanding years in the late '80's that coincided with the presence of a rb who just happened to be an all-american and went on to a very solid nfl career - i can't remember if he left uva because he flunked out or was kicked out because of criminal charges, but suffice it to say that chris warren had a significant impact on ferrum football those 2 or 3 years he donned the blackhat - over that same period, hsc is 104-95-1 and endured a period of 3 years and 4 wins under marty favret's predecessor - take away the good fortune of chris warren falling in ferrum's lap and take away the bad fortune of the coach from '97-'99 at hsc, and i'd be willing to bet you could flip-flop those records...either way, i don't see that EITHER program is significantly better - so let's get out of the ancient history of ferrum football (by the way, hsc has been playing football since 1892, so NO WAY does ferrum have more or better football history) and look at the last 4+ years...ferrum is a very respectable 27-15 and hsc is 34-11 - i think that HAS to be considered

how would YOU suggest that the polls are produced? if past performance is to have no bearing, on what merits should teams be ranked? should we simply pull school names from a hat?  and don't tell me you don't care, because you've spent a lot of energy saying just the opposite...if i didn't know better, i'd think you were a ferrum coach trying to lobby for more votes :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 10, 2005, 12:45:53 AM
Narch
I love it when you talk smack with facts.  All my head injuries keep me from being as analytical as you.  ;). I almost got wood man. Well I cannot anymore anyway. :)

However my argument previous to your last post was close. Those cheerleaders at BC are....did i mss the point here,
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 10, 2005, 03:18:13 AM
Quote from: blackhats on October 09, 2005, 11:59:23 PM

Hampden Sydney's schedule is weaker than anyone's in the USA South year in and year out, however they continue to be considered for ranking.  Maybe you guys relate better to HSC and the preppy sweater vests and life without women.  We in the USA South enjoy living with women and playing hard-nosed football.  Have a nice evening Biff.

I guess not all the non biased ratings groups feel the same!

Massey Index:
HSC is at #61 with a Schedule Toughness rated at 137
Ferrem is at #66 with a Schedule Toughness rated at 197

Laz Index: (if Ferrem played HSC today, neutral field)
HSC = 6.1 pt favorite over Ferrem

Born Power Ratings: (neutral field HSC vs. Ferrem , today)
HSC = 3.25pt favorite over Ferrem

Looking further into the schedule situation:


Ferrem Panthers                      Hampden-Sydney Tigers
Guilford           (1-4)                     Sewanee          (2-4)
E&H                (0-5)                     Gettysburg      (2-3)
Chowan          (2-4)                       Guilford           (1-4)
Shenandoah   (1-4)                       Bridgewater    (3-1)
Averette          (2-3)                      E&H                 (0-5)
Maryville          (1-5)                      W&L                 (4-1)
Methodist        (4-1)                      Catholic            (2-3)
Greensboro     (0-5)                      Dickenson         (1-4)
NC Weslyn       (2-3)                      Johns Hopkins  (5-0)
CNU                 (3-2)                      RMC                  (0-5)

Totals =    (16-36)                    (20-32)

Now doing a quick look at QOWI  for both:
Current ratings =  Ferrem ---- 9.00       HSC ----- 9.60
Projected ratings (assuming both finish 9-1)
                         =  Ferrem ---- 9.22       HSC ----- 9.60

Sooooooo..........
You may believe that HSC is playing the cupcake ODAC schedule but in the NCAA selection committee's eyes Ferrem will finish the season playing the weaker schedule. Obviously Ferrem is a step behind  in the critria that counts at this point in the season. Point being, I would worry more about beating MU & CNU for the conference title than trying to lobby for Top 25 votes.
Title: Great post Llama:
Post by: Jeremybozz on October 10, 2005, 08:41:01 AM
   I agree. Catholic and Shen. forfeit does skewer the common opp. records a bit.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: patcummings on October 10, 2005, 11:57:12 AM
As for the poll, seriously look at how many votes it takes to get the 25th position, then see how far away H-SC and Ferrum are from actually doing that.

In the long run, it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 10, 2005, 02:12:43 PM
Blackhats, I just created the admiralpapi d3 football poll in which Methodist is ranked number 1 (due to MY bias) and Ferrum holds every position from 2 to 200th.  Now that's some love for the Panthers.  I think I heard Woody Paige and Skip Bilas having an argument this morning on Cold Pizza as to why FC isn't ranked higher!  ;D   Seriously man, who cares!  What difference does it make.  A top 25 ranking doesn't mean anything in the USASAC (I still hate typing that, bring back the DIAC) because if you don't win the conference this year you aren't going to the playoffs.  So basically a top 25 ranking and a dollar and ten cents will get a hot cup of coffee at any local gas station.

I think the FC/MC is going to be much like most Panther/Monarch games are.  Back and forth contest with someone making a big play in the 4th to win the game for their team!  Hopefully it'll be the Monarchs.  I'm gonna say 37-34 MC!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 10, 2005, 04:52:09 PM
4" of snow today and practices were cancelled. What do you think of that Admiral? It depressed me. :-[
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 10, 2005, 08:59:08 PM
abnrgr - 4" of snow in october has to SUCK...and send the punt returner the monarchs way

roncketti usasac offensive potw (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/usasouthweeklyhonors.htm) - very happy to see that some folks realize the value of willing a team to win - congrats rocket

as for mc/fc...whoever has the ball last will win - i'm putting the over/under on the total number of punts for both teams at 5...anyone want to take the over?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 11, 2005, 01:11:27 AM
ABNRGR, after spending that time in Switzerland I don't care if I ever see snow for as long as I live.  Give me those hot summer days on the beach with a KOLD drink in one hand and a fishing rod in the other!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: notsoftbutferrum on October 11, 2005, 07:58:39 AM
just for the record.  I've been watching for a while now and you guys sure are attacking Ferrum a lot.  Blackhats is right about much of his evaluation of this.  I don't see where he says that Ferrum should be ranked.  He just stated that Ferrum should be considered as an undefeated team higher than a team with one loss.  And by the way Chris Warren got two D's in one semester at UVA which made him ineligible to play by the school's rule.  Nott ACC or NCAA.  Because he couldn't play that year he simply decided to transfer where he could play immediately.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 11, 2005, 11:14:57 AM
It was not my intention to attack Hats. I told I like his enthusiasm and loyalty to his program. I think ther dreaded Panters will get their due if they win the conference and get to the show. However this week if Rocketti does not get blindsided its MC +2

However, I know most Navy guys like your handle.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on October 11, 2005, 12:14:17 PM
NCWC 21  AU 24  AU wins at home

Chowan 10  CNU  35  Just because

M-ville 21  Centre 17  just a guess because i know nothing about Centre

GC 23  SU 13  GC looked pretty good against CNU and had CNU fans worried late.  GC gets it going this week.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 11, 2005, 12:21:15 PM
I don't think any of us are 'attacking' blackhats were are just trying to get him to realize to just enjoy the success his team is having and quit worrying about who they are listed behind in the polls. 

Congrats to Rocket on the POTW...after putting the Monarchs on his shoulders he certainly deserved it.  Hopefully he can put in another great performance at Ferrum.  Hopefully, though, the rest of the team will decide to show up in the first unlike at AU!

Ready, Ready, Monarchs!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 11, 2005, 12:54:02 PM
Four inches of snow...incredulous...Thats Gods way of saying Colorardo and the Broncos need an edge to gain victory.  Wild Fires, Snow Storms in October...Your state is doomed!


Its ominious though with a Pride victory, Probally to be won with a punt block or two.  However, the win could come post mortem with the use of a Hornet ineligible wr.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 11, 2005, 08:04:30 PM
MOSH
Yes we are doomed. But I went to Lees-McRae in Banner Elk and I love suffering in the snow.

The Broncos will gag again.

Ineligible reciever..............you are brutal...just rub it in on them Hornets. Aw...so refreshing.

I still say MC +2.

NARCH- Any injury reports?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 11, 2005, 11:06:07 PM
abnrgr - a couple of starters on the defensive side have been nicked the last few games - ng john northern has been limited the last few games and rayford, cb who left the ehc game early, is listed on the game participation report vs. averett but did not return punts - mc really needs him back there fielding the few punts they might get - he's averaging over 14 yds per return - other than that, i don't know of any injuries other than the normal beating a football player takes 5 games into a season

i know it's a longshot to get the internet that far in the woods, but is it POSSIBLE that ferrum will have a webcast of the game???  i'm gonna pull my hair out if i can't get some updates on that game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 11, 2005, 11:57:32 PM
this is from the daily dose blog re: ferrum and their top 25 credentials

Quotedontworryboutwho Says:

The 11th of October, 2005 at 8:48 pm

i really dont see how yall can continue to disrespect Ferrum, a team who is averaging 43 PPG, 500yds of total offense per game, and whose total offensive yards is almost double the team second in their conference?"

interesting ferrum math...2966 (in 6 games) is AT LEAST "almost double" 2025 (in 5 games), right???

TOTAL OFFENSE     G  Rush Pass Plays Yards Avg/P TD Yds/G
----------------------------------------------------------------
1. Ferrum..............  6  2272  694   399  2966   7.4 37 494.3
2. Methodist........... 5  1186  839   331  2025   6.1 22 405.0

i hope the monarchs prove the panthers fraudulent on friday night for many reasons...maybe ferrum fans will stop blogging and posting and emailing d3football.com top 25 voters trying to garner more votes for the panthers...but most importantly, the monarchs NEED this win to stay in the usasac title race...HUGE game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 12, 2005, 01:25:56 AM
((( for the Ferrum fans )))

I've ranked the remaining undefeated Division III teams by their opponent's combined winning percentage.  I did not count the undefeated team's win in their opponent's record and winning percentage.


Pos.SchoolRecordOpp. Win%Opp. RecordScoring Off.Scoring Def.QoWI Rank
1#2 Mount Union5-0.71415-648.28.82nd
2#20 Coe5-0.68215-729.813.25th
3#4 Rowan4-0.66710-533.816.3t-14th
Bowdoin3-0.6674-216.014.0t-217th
5#7 UW-Whitewater5-0.64711-644.811.6t-7th
6Monmouth6-0.62118-1145.820.76th
7#12 Trinity (TX)5-0.60012-822.413.410th
Hobart5-0.60012-835.413.6t-3rd
9Alma*4-1.59113-934.225.8t-7th
10#19 Thiel5-0.56513-1038.015.69th
11#8 Ithaca5-0.54512-1044.224.2t-11th
12#5 St. John's6-0.51914-1341.310.8t-36th
13#24 Wesley6-0.47811-1242.813.8t-14th
14#9 Delaware Valley5-0.47610-1133.211.822nd
15Union5-0.45510-1230.413.8t-23rd
16#6 Occidental5-0.4387-939.015.2t-14th
17St. Olaf5-0.4299-1246.417.827th
Johns Hopkins5-0.4299-1219.26.8t-14th
19Wabash5-0.4099-1338.05.8t-39th
East Texas Baptist*4-1.4099-1318.023.4t-34th
21#1 Linfield4-0.3575-945.814.828th
22#10 UW-La Crosse*3-1.3536-1129.018.8t-74th
23#13 Concordia-Moorhead5-0.3337-1430.614.0t-56th
#3 Hardin-Simmons5-0.3336-1238.014.4t-47th
Trinity (CN)3-0.3332-446.32.0t-217th
26#16 North Central5-0.3187-1540.818.4t-14th
27Ferrum6-0.2697-1943.022.2t-56th
28Elmhurst5-0.2275-1735.212.8t-36th
29Colby3-0.1671-527.710.0t-217th

*lost to a non-Division III school
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 12, 2005, 01:45:59 AM
This chart tells me that Ferrum has - of the remaining 29 undefeated teams - the 3rd worst opponent winning percentage, the 2nd worst QoWI ranking (not counting the three NESCAC schools), and the 4th worst scoring defense (with two of the three schools worse than Ferrum - Alma & ETB - giving up less points if you don't count the non-Division III losses ... which would give the Panthers the 2nd worst scoring defense).

Still think your team deserves to be ranked or given more points in the poll week after week?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 12, 2005, 12:40:34 PM
Havent you ever heard of Ted Kazinsky?

Seriously, have you ever been to Ferrum?

Same situation as Ted.  Way up in the country...Stark, Raving and mad, and you are still going to assault Blackhats.

I just hope he doesnt pass out black eyes like Ted passed out letters.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hug on October 12, 2005, 12:53:12 PM
Here is why the Ferrum faithful are whinning about the polls:


They are 5-0 dangit, 5-0!

BUT

They know that they are not that good. They know they will finish the year no better than 8-2. They know they are not making the playoffs.  And they know that after Friday they will no longer have a leg to stand on.

Love Biff
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 12, 2005, 01:03:03 PM
HUG and all
3 days and the FC debate will be moot either way. I remember back in the 70's going up there and their fans being painted up and well as the players. It can be wild when they smell a spot in the show..

Ted....what a guy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 12, 2005, 01:06:34 PM
hug - c'mon, don't disrespect firm, they're 6-0, man...best team in va :)

mosh - there is NO WAY that blackhats is more twisted than abnrgr, and i feel like he would have my back

...they are scary when you start looking at stats - they have 4 players in the top 10 in rushing ypg in the usasac, and all average over 6 ypc - mulford is a beast and is averaging over 10 ypc - silk is the best te in the conference - pitts is the best option qb in the region (now that dj from ssu is out for the season) - their defense gives up lots of yards, but they are +7 in turnovers for the season, so they get a lot of takeaways and don't give up a ton of points - big plays on offense and defense are the ferrum m.o. - this will either be a very close game with the monarchs winning a shoot out OR it will be a ferrum blowout because they've forced numerous mc turnovers and capitalized on them - i'm hoping for the former :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 12, 2005, 01:06:47 PM
I think we might be hyping Methodist a bit too much.

Ferrum needs to beat both Methodist and Christopher Newport.  Luckily they get both at home this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hug on October 12, 2005, 01:10:49 PM
narch,

Now you're starting to sound like Lou Holtz.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 12, 2005, 01:16:59 PM
hug - not mushmouthing the monarchs chances, just stating the facts - ferrum IS a good team (just not a top 25 team right now)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 12, 2005, 01:41:55 PM
Pat, is it true you blocked out Blackhats? I dont know if you two had it out or not in a email thing but he said his reason was for the comment he made about the ODAC voters a few posts back. Blackhats may had beat the top 25 thing to death but he loves his team. Its nice to see some other fans in here besides the usual faithful. Just wondering here, Thanks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 12, 2005, 02:38:17 PM
Blackhats was on earlier today according to his profile:

Name:  blackhats
Posts:  40 (1.429 per day)
Position:  Junior Varsity
Karma:  -14 
Date Registered:  September 13, 2005, 19:56:51
Last Active:  Today at 10:23:12

Maybe he's decided to lay low for a little while. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 12, 2005, 03:51:42 PM
Well he certainly has taken a beating; however, it would have been worse on the ODAC board where the beatings continue until you are BCite. :)

What is the average running yardage given up by Ferrum's D?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 12, 2005, 07:10:13 PM
back to the game - mc will be doing a webcast (http://www.futuremediaworld.com/methodist.htm) according to monarchs online - thanks to the mc athletic department for making this possible!

abnrgr - here is how mc and ferrum's defense stack up

TOTAL DEFENSE      G  Rush Pass Plys Yards  Avg  TD Yds/G
---------------------------------------------------------------
4. Methodist........... 5   687 1104  339  1791  5.3  18 358.2
5. Ferrum..............  6   671 1553  429  2224  5.2  19 370.7

RUSHING DEFENSE G  Rushes  Yards  Avg.  TD  Yds/G
----------------------------------------------------------
1. Ferrum.............. 6     211     671     3.2     7   111.8
2. Methodist..........5     170     687     4.0     8   137.4

PASS DEFENSE       G   Att   Cmp  Int   Pct.        Yds  Avg TD Yds/G
------------------------------------------------------------------
5. Methodist...........5   169   94   1     55.6    1104  6.5 10 220.8
8. Ferrum..............  6   218  103  14  47.2     1553  7.1 12 258.8

a couple things stand out to me :

#1 - ferrum's rush defense numbers would probably look much closer to those of mc were ferrum to have played salisbury instead of chowan

#2 - look at the number of int's for ferrum - that defense gets a TON of takeaways



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 12, 2005, 07:20:35 PM
comparing games vs. three common opponents:

ferrum vs. gcq         
gcq - 71 rush/268 pass
ferrum - 412 total offense
mc vs. gcq
gcq - 32 rush/265 pass
mc - 435 total offense

ferrum vs. ehc
ehc - 50 rush/221 pass
ferrum - 348 total offense
mc vs. ehc
ehc - 14 rush/219 pass
mc - 406 total offense

ferrum vs. au
au - 118 rush/329 pass
ferrum - 686 total offense
mc vs. au
au - 119 rush/274 pass
mc - 379 total offense

averages
mc rush def - 54 ypg/mc pass def - 252 ypg/mc off - 406 ypg
fc rush def - 76 ypg/fc pass def - 272 ypg/fc off - 482 ypg

conclusion - mc is about 40 ypg better than fc on defense and fc is about 80 ypg better offensively...pretty even match-up - those takeaways for the fc defense scare me....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 12, 2005, 10:30:24 PM
Narch, I am impressed. You really know your stuff. Great stats!

Its going to be close. Whats the weather forecast, and who has the best kicker EP/FG?

What about 2pt. conversions?

Finally, What type of a following will Methodist have? Will the crowd be a help to either side? (should be Ferrum)

Finally what about the punters...Compare the averages.

I admit I am really  biased and want Ferrum to win, but I dont see a sure thing for either team.

My guess is that for Ferrum to win they have to do the following:

Cause 2 turnovers minimum

Capitalize on one of those with a touchdown, or both with at least 2 field goals

Have at least 30 yards fewer penalties, with no more than 70 yds all game.

Not miss any extra points

and hold the MC quarterback to no more than 25 yds past his per game passing average.

They also have to dominate time of possession and first downs.

Watch out for Hamoy...they will not key on him...he could be the wild card in the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 12, 2005, 10:53:14 PM
Allen C
I am not impressed because that is Narch's standard. 100%.  :)

IF Maryville had 268 yards on the ground on them then there numbers against the run is even better and skewed toward Ferrum. That's where I expected the sprint draw, breaking of contain, and play action to get them. I am a little worried about my MC +2 but as Allen C intimated ,turn overs will kill somebody. Keep Rockets head attached and it's MC +2 :).

Really Narch that is great work.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 13, 2005, 01:17:55 AM
Well, he has been blocked, and he apparently doesn't seem to accept it, because he continually attempts to access the board, and also registered for another username from the same IP address as one of his previous posts, using that address to back up his viewpoint.

That makes three separate violations of the TOS, so I was OK with him being excluded from the board.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 13, 2005, 01:56:05 PM
RIP blackhats...

   The first person to have a computer near Ferrum can no longer post.  This ones for you bud.



GET THE W, ROLL PRIDE!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 13, 2005, 09:18:37 PM
allen c - the monarchs have the best kicker in the conference, by far - he's 5-8 on fg's and 16-18 on xp's in addition to having 9 touchbacks on kickoffs (next best in the conference has 3) - punting is another story - luizza for mc has had some struggles, but i don't anticipate many punts - mc has 3 2 pt conversions on the season to 1 for fc - not sure what type of crowd mc will have...they take a decent crowd to gc and gcq, typically, but ferrum is a little further, and with it being a friday night game...just not sure - did i answer all of your questions?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 14, 2005, 05:23:52 AM
Thanks Narch,

It should be a good one! I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Sat. finds Ferrum 7-0 with a bye week ahead!

Good luck!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pantherfan on October 14, 2005, 09:55:53 AM
QuoteThe first person to have a computer near Ferrum can no longer post.

Just for the record. We have a private network here in Ferrum and you may only see a couple IP addys or your end for several users. Is it fair to block everyone from Ferrum? I only know of 2 users actually on Campus, could be more I'm just not aware.

Go Panthers!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 14, 2005, 12:56:16 PM
Pantherfan,
 
   Thankyou very much for clarifying the obove issue.  I will make a mental note of that information.  I was just messin around about blackhat though.  You actually could be him though, Either way...Glad Ya'll have some service there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 14, 2005, 01:17:12 PM
I didn't block any campus addresses, Pantherfan. moshergc9 is not a part of the administration of the site and his posts should not be taken as indicative of anything official.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2005, 02:41:33 PM
i would be all for allowing blackhats to post after tonight...either he'll have a more legit reason to lobby for more votes for ferrum, or (hopefully) he'll stop talking about ferrum and the top 25 and concentrate on what ferrum has to do to rebound from their first loss of 2005 - either way, i think this board needs more fans from schools like ferrum, averett, ncwc and m'ville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 14, 2005, 03:11:11 PM
Mosh is the "official" voice of the PRIDEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 14, 2005, 03:25:31 PM
I would like to see Blackhats be able to post again also. Like Narch said, "this board needs more fans from other schools". What ex. did Blackhats do that got him banned by the way?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 14, 2005, 03:38:29 PM
Pat,

How can a guy get reinstated? I didn't read many of Blackhats posts after awhile. But I did scan a  few to see if he had moved on to another topic. Until he got stuck on the top 25 issue, he was ok by me. Not sure what TOS he violated, and I'm sure he did since you seem to give people some slack before acting. I'd hate to mute a FC poster...not many of them around.  Heck, even the calm CNU85 had a few posts banned from the ODAC board in previous seasons.

I just can't seem to figure out who I want to win between MC/FC. Not that it matters, since CNU wil STOMP them both!!

Hi Narch!! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 14, 2005, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: cnu85 on October 14, 2005, 03:38:29 PM
Pat,

How can a guy get reinstated? I didn't read many of Blackhats posts after awhile. But I did scan a  few to see if he had moved on to another topic. Until he got stuck on the top 25 issue, he was ok by me. Not sure what TOS he violated, and I'm sure he did since you seem to give people some slack before acting. I'd hate to mute a FC poster...not many of them around.  Heck, even the calm CNU85 had a few posts banned from the ODAC board in previous seasons.

I just can't seem to figure out who I want to win between MC/FC. Not that it matters, since CNU wil STOMP them both!!

Hi Narch!! ;D

Don't be messin' on our turf 85! :-*

Hopefully you can have a few more banned in November if we both take care of bizniz and we meet November 19th at Jopson.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 14, 2005, 04:12:17 PM
Question to anyone who knows? What is the "Karma"
What affect it, and who determines someones karma?

Is the FC/MU game on a web cast?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pantherfan on October 14, 2005, 04:26:01 PM
http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/index.htm

webcast is on Methodist website..........look for the link.

Thanks for the update Pat Coleman, I've been reading along for a few weeks and wasn't sure if that post about blocking blackhats was ligit or not.
Ferrum is all jacked up right now about this game.  Not sure how the crowd will be, Fall break started after classes and most of the student may have left for home by now. Should be a good turn out from the locals in the area. Lots of Panther Pride in Franklin Co.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 14, 2005, 06:02:17 PM
The terms of service are here (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=3566.0), for anyone interested. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 14, 2005, 06:56:59 PM
Ferrum wins the toss! Lets get ready for a cat fight!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 14, 2005, 06:57:54 PM
Narch, sorry I missed you this week...the duty phone rang and guess who had to answer.  Four minutes til kick off up in the mountains.  Hopefully the Monarchs will start this game like they finished against AU.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 14, 2005, 07:03:36 PM
Seems like we didn't get that kickoff coverage issue settled this week.  Can't keep giving up 4 or 5 first downs on each kick.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 14, 2005, 07:26:52 PM
Ferrum drives it down MC's throat on their first drive and the Monarchs go 3 and out.  FC then drives it again but a Great play on the goaline stops FC on 4th down.  Now lets get some offense going guys.

FC 7
MC 0

Ferrum is definitely winning the field position battle...seems the whole 1st quarter has been on MC's side of the field
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2005, 07:35:36 PM
papi - we closed down front street......still paying for it :)

monarchs need a big play on d

i heard mcswain's name a lot on the last drive - is hill out?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2005, 08:06:26 PM
monarchs get a td just before the half - down 20-7 - need some momentum and stops on the defensive end - fc is carving the monarchs w/ the option
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 14, 2005, 08:40:46 PM
MC takes the first turnover of the game and put it in the endzone on the next play on a 47 yrd TD pass from Rocket.

FC 20
MC 14

Is MC just trying to do a USC impersonation and not play football in the first half and then come back in the second.  For the sake of my blood pressure I wish they would just play the whole game instead of giving teams a 30 min head start


Narch, what is up with this kick off coverage?  Sounds like my grandma could take one 40 yards up the sideline on MC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 14, 2005, 09:07:46 PM
Brand new ballgame MC takes another turnover and ties the score up at 28.

Narch, were is Hill tonight?  McSwain is definitely carrying his share of the load though.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2005, 09:17:40 PM
papi - not sure about hill...i hadn't heard of any injuries...hmm

need a big stop on 3rd down
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2005, 09:32:38 PM
monarchs have been game, but they have no answer for the ferrum option, especially pitts - fc 35 - mc 31 - defense needs to make just ONE STOP...c'mon, boys....didn't get it - hamoy scores on a 15 yard td - fc 42 - mc 31...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 14, 2005, 09:38:08 PM
Well we're gonna see if the Cardiac Kids can do it again.  The fat lady hasn't sung yet but she's humming!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2005, 09:42:27 PM
big break for the monarchs on the pass int. on 4th and 10...need to make some plays boys - 2:48 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 14, 2005, 09:43:55 PM
Im now cheering for the clock!  TIC TIC TIC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2005, 09:45:06 PM
mularski can play...getting interesting  :o - rocket on a draw for a td...need the 2 pt conversion and the onside kick
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 14, 2005, 09:48:09 PM
Suspense is killin' me fellas!  Is it 42-39?!  I can't get the stream to work :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2005, 09:49:45 PM
need a turnover...42-37...fc with the ball and about 1:30 - mc just used the last timeout and ferrum has 2nd and 7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2005, 09:52:55 PM
monarch defense has stopped the panthers but fc will punt with about 5 seconds left - ferrum snapped the ball and ran out the clock - ferrum 42 - mc 37 - congrats to the panthers!

monarchs got in a 21-0 hole in the first half and were playing without the leading rusher in the usasac - no excuses, because injuries happen, but you've got to think hill may have made some difference - gotta put this one behind them and get ready for cnu this weekend...there is still a chance for the monarchs to win the conference, albeit slim - again, great job of taking care of business for the panthers - 7-0 is very impressive, and they've finally beaten a team of substance - i'd say they should leapfrog a few teams in the "others receiving votes" section of the top 25 - gotta get hill healthy...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 14, 2005, 09:55:59 PM
Another great FC/MC game...wish it had turned out different.  Pitts must be a bear.  The Monarchs didn't have anything for him tonight.
 
We've got to quit digging such deep holes in the first half. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 14, 2005, 09:58:40 PM
Great Game! The Rocket is definitly awesome! Glad to see the FC win however. Great comeback!
We need Blackhats back. I may be one of the few Panther fans out here.

Pitts is pretty tough.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2005, 10:09:29 PM
i gotta give the mc sid, lee wright props - he made the webcast possible and i thought he did a very good job on the play-by-play

coach sy sounds defeated...gotta get up before next saturday - never beaten cnu...let's make it happen, boys

no word on hill...

ferrum runs for 388

rocket 215 yards and 2 tds - mularski 119 yards and 2 td's
mcswain had 62 yards rushing, rocket 54 yards rushing

monarchs...win out and hope for some ferrum losses...GO PRIDE! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 14, 2005, 11:06:03 PM
Narch,

Has MU played NCW yet? I know their record is not great, but I think they probably are underrated. Should Ferrum be concerned?

This has been an interesting week on the board. You put up many informative posts. thanks.

Take care of the Captains. Put it to them.

I dont gloat, I am just happy to see the season going so well for FC. Glad they get a week off. They still will not be ranked, but I think they will be looked at closer. I know its meaningless, but the prestiege could not hurt.

Thanks again narch for your input to the board.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 15, 2005, 10:32:46 AM
Pat,
  My bad, didnt mean to sound so official...I guess I cant help but permiate the thoughts of great leadership.  haha, but I wont ever sound that official again.

This league has turned from a defensive oriented league into a offensive juggernooooooooooooot!   Seems like every team in the conf is scoring more points this year. 

My high school team is 4-4 but we only score about 2-3 tds a game.  Kids need to learn how to produce...Anyways, Narch you are right...The Pride should start winning soon.  And I think they will.  I know they are hungry.

Roll PRIDE!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 15, 2005, 10:38:06 AM
Why didn't Mike Hill play for Methodist?  He shows as starting in the Ferrum game, but didn't have a rush (or any stat for that matter).  Injured?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 15, 2005, 12:25:03 PM
Mosh, I  wish SU would join the league in the "high offensive juggernooooooooooooot". SU is avg. like 15 or so points this year. Just another reason to get rid of that boring to watch ACE-WING.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 15, 2005, 01:19:44 PM
Mosher,

No big deal -- I'm just surprised someone was confused by it. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 15, 2005, 02:22:00 PM
Pat,

What are your thoughts on the Ferrum/ Meth. game?  I dont see it getting FC ranked, but maybe somemore credibility?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 15, 2005, 06:22:06 PM
Sure, more credibility. I just hope someone besides me votes for Ferrum this week. I'm tired of being the only one with the Panthers on my ballot the past three weeks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 15, 2005, 08:14:26 PM
kid - the mc press release said he didn't play due to injury...i'm not sure that he even played as the sid commented last night that he had yet to see hill play - if he plays, the monarchs are 5-1 instead of 4-2 in my opinion...he's worth at least 6 points a game :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 15, 2005, 09:07:14 PM
pride up 27-20


3rd qtr
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 15, 2005, 09:54:43 PM
Greensboro owns SU!

   Nice first win, took too long...

More upsets to come.

ROLL PRIDE!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 15, 2005, 10:29:21 PM
mosh - just looked at the gc/su box score - key to the game...hoffman did his best roberson impression, throwing 3 picks and roberson didn't throw any (with 4 td's...nice day!) - i also noticed that wr torrey lowe led gc in rushing, recieving and was 2-2 passing...not bad - good win for the pride - congrats!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 15, 2005, 10:54:58 PM
Nice win for the Pride, taking advantage of 4 turnovers from SU. 1 fumble and 3 INT's. Why Barnes keeps putting Hoffman out on the field baffles me. Each game its the same thing from him. 

The season is way past over for SU.
Its now time to look at the future all the way and let the younger guys behind Hoffman play. Shoot, they cant do any worse.

On a side note. anyone from GC know what was up with the team bus showing up late in the 2nd QT? With about 5 min to play in the 2nd it looked like 25 guys game running out of the bus in full pads.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ballcoach on October 16, 2005, 01:28:07 AM
Jessie,
In case you didn't notice Hoffman threw for 195 yards and 2 tds...the first td scrambling out of trouble...through 4 GC tackers and hitting Hering with a strike on the run ...the second a perfectly thrown ball in triple coverage to Hering for the td...AND The 1st TD was set up by a 25 yard pass to the TE at the 1yard line...not to mention the 30 yard run that Hoffman made to set up the other FREAKIN TD. Lets see that is [all 4 tds that he was either "responsible for"(stats term) or set up inside the 5. Oh I also forgot that pass where Proteus almost held on when Hoffman drilled him at the 8 yard line but he took a heavy hit and lost the ball...could that have maybe been the 5th td!!!
This is the first game that SU has spread the field at all this year. Futhermore even attempted to throw over the middle. I will only address the INT at the 25 yard line in which he  should have eaten the ball instead of trying to dump it to Frates as he was being hit...mistake made BIG MISTAKE!
Why don't we blame him for the penalties too that set up the GC td or lets blame him for the muffed punt that set up the other td.
Go ahead he has big shoulders after all he was the only QB to take SU to the playoffs...led SU to 4 come from behind wins...only threw for about 1400 yards last year and what 14 tds and oh I forgot was all conference HM...OPPS forgot some thing else he was SU"s most improved offensive player.
Lastly all year he has been looking at only 2 receivers going out ( one always at 5'8"?)and only throwing on 3rd down up the perimeters of the field. Tonite they finally spread the field and the other INTs came when we were obviously forcing things in an attempt to come back. On one of them it sure looked like the receiver ran the wrong route...the ball was where it was supposed to be!
Maybe you should call the GC coaches and players who made a point to come over to him after the game and tell him what an athlete he is ...I am sure even if he didn't throw any INT's you would have found something because you obviously missed all the reasons we lost tonite which every player on the field is responsible...JUST AS EVERY PLAYER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY SCORE!!! EVERY FIRST DOWN ETC ETC EVERY SUCCESS AND DISAPPOINTMENT. I forgot you probably know all this??? have a great nite. PS: by any chance at halftime were you on the Hoffman bandwagon..I remember when REDKITE jumped on that wagon last year ...nice ride wasn't it!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 16, 2005, 04:46:22 AM
Ballcoach, you obviously have a bias opinion when it comes to your son. Im sure he is a nice guy and all but the fact are the facts. He is not getting the job done this year. Yes, I (redkite) got behind him last year but that was last year. Are you saying its wrong to get behind him? I wrote many times that he proved me wrong last year. But Sr., that was last year with all due respect. All 2005 season he has not had it remotely close to last years numbers. You also say this is the first game they have spread the ball out but that's not true. Here are some numbers from the 3 conference games this year.
25-9-3INT    195  2 TD    GC
21-8-2INT    117  1 TD     CNU
22-6-3 INT   108   0 TD   FC

Looks like pretty even numbers to me.

Before tonight's games here are the USAC QB numbers from the USAC website

PASSING AVG/GAME        Team Cl  G Att Cmp Int  Pct.  Yds TD Avg/G
------------------------------------------------------------------
1. PARSONS, Todd....... AU   SR  4 138  73   3  52.9 1031 10 257.8
2. ROBERSON, Justi..... GC   SR  5 197  93  21  47.2 1127  8 225.4
3. RONCKETTI, C........ MC   SR  6 130  71   3  54.6 1058  6 176.3
4. PRICE, Justin....... MVC  JR  6 152  73   3  48.0  953 10 158.8
5. BRYANT, Hudson...... CNU  JR  4  78  41   6  52.6  483  2 120.8
6. TOWNSEND, Cedri..... NCWC SO  5 102  60   0  58.8  588  4 117.6
7. PITTS, Jermaine..... FC   JR  7  63  32   4  50.8  649 10  92.7
8. HOFFMAN, Jon........ SU   SR  5  79  24   6  30.4  401  2  80.2
9. JONES, Phillip...... CNU  SR  2  28  16   3  57.1  158  2  79.0
10.SWANN, Scott........ AU   SR  1  14   8   0  57.1   73  0  73.0
You can see he is dead last for starters.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 16, 2005, 04:47:13 AM
I still believe its time to look to the future for the Hornets. This is not a personal attack on Hoffman but he is a SR. He will not be back to play for the Hornets in 2006. The Hornets are not going to win the USAC or even come close. Its time to start looking at other players that will help the team next year and years beyond and take the team to the next level.
A lot of your points are what he did for the team last year. Noone is taking what he did last year away from him. but what has he done this year? How many games has he hurt the team with his inconsistency this year? How many drives were killed by poor decision making? Like I said after the CNU game its time to start to look at other players, not just the QB but alot others as well. The facts are the facts Ballcoach. Even the radio was saying what Narch said that The GC QB came to play and it was The GC player that was expected to give up 3 INT's and not Hoffman.  Maybe its time to have a rotation of Hoffman and another, like the Hornets did a few years ago to sort out the QB problems they had in 2001. You also say he has big shoulders but it sure looked like he was complaining to the fans in the stands when they were getting on him in the 4th and Barnes had to tell him to shut up. Maybe instead of jawing at some guys he should be thinking about how he threw that pass into the arms of the GC player. Im sure your a fine gentleman and Im not ashamed to express my views about the team. If you would like to talk civil before the next home game feel free to email me. Im always at the games. But If your looking for me to say the Hornets should not be looking to the future your wrong. Any team that is out of the running for the NCAA playoffs should be thinking about how they can improve the next season (including Barnes with his play calling ACEWING style). Maybe the Hornets will be looking at a 5-5 season, but  dont get so upset with some criticism when it comes to your son, you say he can take it, you should also.

p.s. Again Im not trying to make this a mean spirited post so please don't take it like that. I just strongly believe that The team needs to look at what they have for 2006. They don't need to bench him but I do like the idea of a rotation style or sending out someone else in the 2nd half. What do they have to lose?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ballcoach on October 16, 2005, 10:20:25 AM
Jessie ,
I need to get out of this conversation(nothin to do w/ you)....just because we threw 23 times in 3 consecutive games does not mean we spread the field...look at the yards per completion this year...something like almost 18ypc...that gives you an idea...it might be the highest in the conf...and that is not necesarily a good thing. Also I am very happy for Proteus and his record setting nite..he is a good one....different offense...routes...definitely different receivers learning to run routes and go up for the ball. What I was saying before is that in previous games we were predominately throwing on third down and sending a back and Proteus out and keepin everyone in to block...almost never throwing on 1 or 2 down..last nite we opened it up a bit and the numbers were up. If we had held on to the lead and he finished with195 yards 2td's and that 1 pick that ended up being a td for GC you would have said he had a prtetty good nite. I guess my point too was that you seemed to be layin the game on him when we had 3 other crucial things happen that put us in a precarious position (when he was played such a major role in all 4 of our TD's)
Jessie, please also remember that half of his picks are balls thrown up the sideline or fades to backs that are 5'8"" and double covered(although they have made a couple great catches)...it is what he has to go to at times no other receiver open or in a route. When you also are only throwin on 3 down..well??
Anyway, I am done w/ the conversation no disrespect intended and I am a freakin nice guy...but now I am
P i$$ed...not at you just in general. Have a good Sunday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 16, 2005, 11:03:42 AM
The Pride radio said the bus broke down.

Sidenote, it would be a very classless thing for barnes to bench a senior leader and start looking to the future at the expense of a player who has been productive in the past...More times than not its the Oline that dictates how well your qb plays.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 16, 2005, 10:03:35 PM
ferrum is getting a little more respect in the top 25...what happens when mc beats cnu and wins out, then cnu beats ferrum and wins out leaving the usasac with three one-loss teams  ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 16, 2005, 10:14:37 PM
They probably will split the Top 25 votes ... but I'm guessing that's not as important as determining who gets the AQ.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 17, 2005, 09:43:06 AM
Ehhhhh not gonna happen narch, hate to burst your bubble.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 17, 2005, 10:32:52 AM
Narch, any news on Hill?  Is he gonna be in the lineup for this weekend?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 17, 2005, 10:52:28 AM
pat - i could care less about top 25 votes...just want that aq - the monarchs could have taken a big step with a win friday - as it is they've got to win out and hope for cnu to beat ferrum - certainly a tough task, but i think it's doable

cnufan - the bubble is intact until at least saturday - this is the year that the monarchs will get the cnu monkey off their backs...i can feel it (of course, i've felt it every other time they've played cnu, as well :))

papi - tracking down some info. on hill as we speak - any upset of cnu will have to be done with the full compliment of game breakers
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 17, 2005, 11:53:25 AM
I also heard the game is now at 130 and not 100, as originally agreed to. Same as last year, 130 game time during homecoming weekend, correct??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on October 17, 2005, 08:22:34 PM
Is Averett and Ferrum giving up alot of points and winning, or is it they just aren't playing good defensive football?  And if this is the case, the USA Chanpionship game will come down to those two teams, providing that CNU wins.  Holler back big boys....................
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 18, 2005, 07:32:03 AM
papi - hill has a nagging groin injury - he did not play at all vs. ferrum, but was a game-time decision after warm-ups - hopefully he'll be ready to go this week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 18, 2005, 03:01:27 PM
Check out this week's Around the Mid-Atlantic (http://www.d3football.com/atr.php?region=midatlantic) - featuring a great story by Pat Cummings on the newest conference member, Maryville.

Good work, Pat, you make it look easy and I know it's not.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 18, 2005, 03:07:05 PM
Be interesting to see if Mr. Cummings will adjust his regional poll depending on the out come of the CNU/Methodist game this weekend. If CNU wins, where will the captains land, still on the Honorable Mention list or perhaps in the top five. And if the Monarchs win, will they end up someone where in the top five or honorable mention.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 19, 2005, 09:04:30 PM
No more tents at Shentel Stadium!!!
In todays school paper the university president said that the school approved to build a end zone locker room building. Hopfully it will be done for the 2006 season. Im sure both the Hornets and the visitors to SU will be happy not to use the tents anymore.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUCougars on October 19, 2005, 10:21:18 PM
Congratulations to Kyle Wilson.  The second Cougar named to the D3football.com National Team of the Week in the last two weeks. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 20, 2005, 11:32:54 AM
Welcome to theboard AUcougars. It's nice to have fans from all the schools here. Heck, we might even let in a SID once in awhile!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 20, 2005, 04:03:02 PM
Low blow CNU85, low blow!!   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 20, 2005, 05:16:31 PM
I couldn't resist the fun!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUCougars on October 20, 2005, 09:17:15 PM
Thanks for the welcome CNU 85.  I have read so many of your posts I feel I've known you for years.

On another note...Averett's Kyle Wilson named one of Don Hansen Football Gazette's National Offensive Players of the Week. 
www.donhansen.com/pow (http://www.donhansen.com/pow)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 20, 2005, 11:03:27 PM
Anybody know what factors in to the Don Hansen poll? Or who votes? Is that a reputable poll? CNU is 25th and Ferrum is 38th. :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2005, 11:07:47 PM
I don't think you can properly call it a poll if only one opinion is involved. Just my $.02.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 21, 2005, 12:54:15 PM
Prediction(s), narch?

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 21, 2005, 03:08:17 PM
Has anybody seen my good friend Narch?

Must be a superstition thing.....don't give CNU fans ammo to fire back with at 4 pm on Saturday or provide stuff to put in the locker room this week.

Silly Narch and his superstitions.......Personally I can't wait until CNU wins so I can return to wearing my under wear properly and wash my socks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 21, 2005, 03:40:46 PM
sorry boys...it's been a VERY busy week...but it's captain week and i get to see some football on saturday, so everything is right with the world - predictions:

ncwc 27 - su 17: bishops running game, defense too much for hornets

au 44 - gc 38: roberson has cut down on to's and makes gc offense more dangerous, but au has figured out how to run the ball - balance is what it's all about

mc 24 - cnu 22 (if mike hill plays): i'm hearing that hill's groin is still possibly an issue (although i can't get confirmation) - if he plays, the monarchs are balanced and run the ball as well as anyone but fc in the conference - no disrespect to mcswain, but hill is a game breaker and a difference maker - if he plays, the monarchs win on a patrick larkin fg as time expires
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: askyouserious on October 21, 2005, 04:17:32 PM
Are you serious........do you really think MC has a chance against CNU.......yeah ok no wonder your a MC fan....Why on earth do you think that they have a chance...granted it gonna be a good game like it always is but i think cnu has the definate advantage.....Rocket is good but he doesn't have the weapons that Jones does....Mc defense is suspect at best and their special teams arent compairable....sorry i know my spelling sucks.....But like I said it will be a good game...but not close
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 21, 2005, 04:36:48 PM
Quote from: askyouserious on October 21, 2005, 04:17:32 PM
Are you serious......

I'm surprised that CNU allows its 6'2", 219-lb defensive tackles from Yorktown, VA to post here.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 21, 2005, 05:59:32 PM
Quote from: askyouserious on October 21, 2005, 04:17:32 PM
Are you serious........do you really think MC has a chance against CNU.......yeah ok no wonder your a MC fan....Why on earth do you think that they have a chance...granted it gonna be a good game like it always is but i think cnu has the definate advantage.....Rocket is good but he doesn't have the weapons that Jones does....Mc defense is suspect at best and their special teams arent compairable....sorry i know my spelling sucks.....But like I said it will be a good game...but not close

Ok now that I've checked through multiple translation books and have figured out exactly what that post said, I'm gonna guess that you are a CNU fan and that you think CNU will win.  Yes, Narch is a Monarch fan and like myself he definitely believes MC has a chance to beat CNU.  I think it will all depend on what team shows up for the Monarchs.  If the team that played the first quarter at Ferrum shows up, we have NO chance.  If the team that played the 2nd half of the Ferrum game shows up I think we have a real good chance at beating the Captains.  I'm predicting a possible overtime showdown!

"A good game...but not close"  What does that mean?

Narch, doesn't look like I'll be making it up to the game this weekend.  Duty calls once again  >:(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 21, 2005, 10:06:48 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on October 21, 2005, 04:36:48 PM
Quote from: askyouserious on October 21, 2005, 04:17:32 PM
Are you serious......

I'm surprised that CNU allows its 6'2", 219-lb defensive tackles from Yorktown, VA to post here.
- he clearly gives new meaning to the term student-athlete...nice - gotta be proud of that, eh '85 :)

Quote from: askyouserious on October 21, 2005, 04:17:32 PM
Why on earth do you think that they have a chance
- let's see - one common opponent, salisbury - mc gave up just 78 yards more than cnu - offensively, mc gained 79 more yards vs. ssu than cnu (mc played ssu in the first week, with a new offense) - the monarchs also had to take a 6+ hour bus ride to play them, while cnu got them in pomoco - both lost by 20 points, but the monarchs actually led ssu for most of the first half...cnu was never closer than 4 points against ssu...oh yeah, and i'm a monarch fan and CLEARLY see everything through green and gold glasses :)

Quote from: askyouserious on October 21, 2005, 04:17:32 PM
Mc defense is suspect at best
- i would agree, but i would also point out that if you take away the m'ville game, cnu hasn't exactly been world beaters defensively, either - statistically, the teams cnu has played in conference to this point (su, gc, m'ville) are at the bottom in terms of yards/game and the teams mc has has played (au, fc, ncwc) are at the top of the conference in terms of yards/game - maybe cnu's defense looks better than mc's on paper because they've played weaker offensive teams?

Quote from: askyouserious on October 21, 2005, 04:17:32 PM
their special teams arent compairable [sic]
- you're right...or maybe you're not - both teams have 6 fg's...mc is 20-22 on xp's, cnu is 18-24...cnu avg. 3 more yds/punt than mc...cnu avgerages .8 yds/punt ret more than mc....cnu averages 6 yards/kickoff ret more than mc...cnu's kickers have had 2 touchbacks, mc has had 9 - those numbers look pretty close
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Post by: narch on October 21, 2005, 10:22:38 PM
papi - sorry you'll miss the monarchs first win over cnu ;D...i'm sure there will be a good crowd, though, and if you can get online, you'll be able to get the webcast

cnu's change from bryant to jones at qb is big for them - in my opinion, bryant is a better passer, but jones is a better athlete and can make things happen with his feet that bryant can't/doesn't - he can turn bad plays into good plays with his ability to move outside of the pocket - the other BIG thing is that jones doesn't make as many mental mistakes - last year bryant threw up at least 4 or 5 balls that just shouldn't have been thrown - unfortunately the monarchs weren't able to capitalize on those mistakes - if the monarchs can play mistake free ball, and force the captains into making some errors...game on - the monarchs also have to control the emotions surrounding this game...homecoming, cnu, must-win to stay in conference race...last year they looked TOO hyped for the first 10-12 minutes and cnu seemed to calmly march it down the monarch's throats - they've gotta come out ready to play from the first snap, as papi said, and be the team that has played the second half of the last 4 games (and not the team that has played the first half of 3 of those 4)
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Post by: abnrgr on October 21, 2005, 10:42:47 PM
I am at FEMA national hqs for Wilma.  >:(I will miss the beatings to be laid on this weekend. If GC QB tosses 4 TD's this weekend the bow ties might go down

Go Monrachs and Pride  :)
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Post by: GCman82 on October 21, 2005, 11:15:46 PM
GC 41  AU 31  Roberson playing much better and it's homecoming at Robert B. Jamison.

Methodist  27  CNU 21  Just for you Narch

SU 21  NCWC 17  just because

Alabama 24  UT 14


ROLL PRIDE!!! 
ROLL TIDE!!!

Gotta go, time for  midnight maddness!
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Post by: narch on October 22, 2005, 08:43:37 AM
it's game day and i'm all geeked up - let's hope the rain holds off and it's a beautiful day - c'mon boys, get the cnu gorilla off your backs - oh yeah, here is the preview from the fayetteville observer (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/story.php?Template=sports&Story=7220286)

GO MONARCHS!
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Post by: moshergc9 on October 22, 2005, 11:55:10 AM
roll pride,

first homegame i have watched in 2 yrs
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Post by: askyouserious on October 22, 2005, 02:10:32 PM
Ok that was alow blow about who i was.....but I really think that MC has a few weapons, and their defense is better on paper.....but we have played Salisbury and Rowan, but we did let up a lot of yards for lesser teams, i.e. SU, Chowan.  But our pa are much lower than MCs.....lowest PA in the conferrence I think......so next time leave out the personal stuff and stick to the facts huh?
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Post by: abnrgr on October 22, 2005, 02:50:06 PM
Hey, the bow ties are getting beat (at the moment) vs GC-Q 14-7 (from ODAC board)
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Post by: askyouserious on October 22, 2005, 03:16:18 PM
35-14 MC at the Half for the CNU GAme
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Post by: tcheadhunter on October 22, 2005, 04:12:33 PM
35-28 MC over CNU early in the 4th. CNU has picked up serious momentum in the 2nd half.
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Post by: tcheadhunter on October 22, 2005, 04:43:43 PM
MC  wins 35 -28. CNU had chances but MC really stepped up.
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Post by: GCman82 on October 22, 2005, 04:45:43 PM
Nice job by the Monarchs, Congrats!


Roll Pride!!!
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Post by: abnrgr on October 22, 2005, 05:10:10 PM
Way to go Narch. Your boys did it. Nasty Captains
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Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 22, 2005, 05:50:46 PM
Way to go MC beating the who!!!!!!What a wild couple of weeks this is going to be to end the season and see who goes to the playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 22, 2005, 06:16:09 PM
NARCH!!!

  Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Its nice to see that a private school can knock the state school back to its Knees a little. Private Public, Public has the edge and even though I really only root for GC I root for everyone except cnu.

Congrats
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Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 22, 2005, 06:49:02 PM
Like I said earlier in the year Pat Coleman our conference foes hate us.  But anyways congrats Methodist on the win.

For you Mosh you always talk about how much of a hard nosed player you were and about how much pride and honor you had for your team. Bottom line is I think your a little Bi$$$. You haven't said anything about CNU since God knows when and now that we loose a game you want to come on here and speak our name out of your mouth. Why don't you get off of Methodist n$$$ and let me say something about your scrub of a team. Bottom line is you couldn't even start for the bottom feeder Pride in your hay day. You were 0-4 against the Captains, with all of them being blowouts. Lets take a trip down memory lane when Gboro was I think undefeated in the first few games and you and your PATHETIC defense was ranked 2nd in the nation in total D because your team was playing scrubs. Lets see I think the Captains ran your little ladies out of your sorry high school stadium. Its funny how you talk trash about CNU now but I knew you when you were playing and I never heard you pop stuff on the field. I'm sorry I guess you wouldn't, it would have been even more PATHETIC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 22, 2005, 06:54:03 PM
Like I said earlier in the year Pat Coleman our conference foes hate us.  But anyways congrats Methodist on the win.

For you Mosh you always talk about how much of a hard nosed player you were and about how much pride and honor you had for your team. Bottom line is I think your a little Bi$$$. You haven't said anything about CNU since God knows when and now that we loose a game you want to come on here and speak our name out of your mouth. Why don't you get off of Methodist n$$$ and let me say something about your scrub of a team. Bottom line is you couldn't even start for the bottom feeder Pride in your hay day. You were 0-4 against the Captains, with all of them being blowouts. Lets take a trip down memory lane when Gboro was I think undefeated in the first few games and you and your PATHETIC defense was ranked 2nd in the nation in total D because your team was playing scrubs. Lets see I think the Captains ran your little ladies out of your sorry high school stadium. Its funny how you talk trash about CNU now but I knew you when you were playing and I never heard you pop stuff on the field. I'm sorry I guess you wouldn't, it would have been even more PATHETIC for you to talk trash to the Champs when you were getting blasted by 3 TD's or more. Bottom line is you don't even have the right to say anything about CNU because we owned YOU, the rest of your defense, and Gboro football period. Now sleep on that you were a scrub, that played for a very sorry team, and you couldn't even start. Ha Ha your a funny guy.
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Post by: tcheadhunter on October 22, 2005, 06:54:27 PM
Methodist played well but CNU's defense was terrible in the frst half. Methodist moved the ball at will and I don't believe that they are as good as the 1st half stats indicate. I don't believe that any school has scored 35 pts on CNU in a half. Once CNU tightened up they were able to battle back. I really thought CNU was poised to make a big 4th qtr comeback. CNU failed to convert 3 times in the red zone and also had a FG blocked. Philip Jones was also sacked twice on a key possession late in the game. I am curious to see the total stats. It seemed like Philip Jones had a huge game probably 350 yds and 4td's. Methodist deserves some respect. :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 22, 2005, 07:16:38 PM
great game today at mc - both offenses started fast and it was 14-14 at the end of the first quarter - then the passing game really got going for mc - cnu simply COULD NOT stop the rocket and the recievers - mularski, doleman, sands and howard made some great plays today, and the cnu db's just couldn't cover the mc recievers in the 2nd quarter - the o-line did a great job, and didn't give up a sack the entire game - rocket probably had 250+ yards in the first half as mc scored 21 unanswered in the 2nd quarter - the monarchs couldn't do anything wrong in the passing game, but the run game didn't really get going at all - hill played, but he isn't 100% (probably 75%), but mcswain ran HARD in the first half - cnu just abandoned the run, which i think played right into mc's hand - at 1/2 time the cnu crowd seemed dumbfounded, and so did the mc crowd - i don't think ANYONE saw that onslaught coming...but i told the person beside me that cnu was too good to not play hard in the second half

cnu coaches made great adjustments in the second half, especially defensively - they blitzed more, and mc wasn't able to get as many big plays as they did in the first half - #9 for cnu played a great second half - there was a reverse that he single handedly blew up that would have been big - i thought mularski had the corner, but that kid can fly - wood played a solid game, but wasn't spectacular - offensively cnu got a little more balanced in the second half and had some nice runs - the officials made some very questionable calls and i started to think that it just wasn't in the cards for the monarchs to win - then with 5 minutes to play, cnu called their last time out and went for it on 4 and 7 from their own 38...i didn't understand why, but i was glad they did and didn't make it - the way their defense was playing they CLEARLY should have punted - this seemed to turn the momentum a bit, and mc moved the ball - although larkin missed a very makeable field goal (he would later miss another chip shot), mc was able to take some time off the clock and get the defense rested - cnu is a classy program, despite some bitter fans :), and this is probably the biggest win in mc football history - as much as tcheadhunter would like you to believe that the first half was a fluke, i think it was great play by the best qb in the conference, a very underrated o-line, a group of recievers that made some big plays, and an offensive coordinator that pushed all of the right buttons - the cnu defense finally faced a good offensive team in the conference, and they were exposed - cnu has not played well against ANY of the good offensive teams they have played
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 22, 2005, 07:20:55 PM
having said all that, i am now officially a cnu fan (and a pride fan and a bishop fan...at least when they play ferrum) - i really think cnu will match up well with ferrum - their weakness is clearly in the defensive secondary, and they are difficult to run on - pitts will have to make some plays with his arm to give ferrum a chance, and that's tough for them to do - go pride!, go capts!, GO MONARCHS!
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Post by: cnufan on October 22, 2005, 07:22:39 PM
PJones was 24-of-47 4TDs 2INT for 321 yards, a new school record. Nathan Davis had five catches for 102 yards and 3TDs.

Roncketti was a stud going 20-of-29 with 2 TDs and 1 INT for 323 yards.

Congrats to the Monarchs, they didnt break in the second half and did what they needed to do to win. Penalties killed CNU, and so did failing to score three times in the endzone, but what killed them the most was the Monarchs efficient offensive game plan. They moved the ball at will in the first half, hats off to Methodist. Narch et all, congrats, enjoy it, sounded like a good crowd and a great game at that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 22, 2005, 07:43:15 PM
Narch Methodist won fair and square but calling the MC o line underated, I would have to disagree. In playing against MC for the last few years Methodist does a lot of 3 step drops, roll outs so their qb won't get touched. Then I would have to say Rocket is a fast kid, so with him getting rid of the ball quick and with him having some wheels I think its more of the system and the speed of the qb that has kept him clean in the past.  As far as the CNU defense being exposed I would say that they played their best. I am as baffled as anyone else that a CNU defense gave up 35 in the first half. No offense but I am speechless about a conference team scoring 35 against our D. Our defense has been built on pride and keeping teams from scoring no matter how good they were. However they did find some balls in the 2nd half and keep MC scoreless but allowing 35 for any team will usually result in a loss. Crazy things have happened this year MUC lost a conference game so the season is not over Captains. 3 way tie ? who will go to the playoffs.
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Post by: njlincolnlion on October 22, 2005, 08:54:19 PM
I saw the Salisbury ,St Peters score on Espn's scoreboard during the Auburn/LSU game.  The benefits of playing a 1AA team (scholarship or not).  Great to see that Salisbury was in 'yellow" indicating a win.

The Gulls get ready for Wesley at Dover next week.  Hope Wesley comes out flat again,
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Post by: abnrgr on October 22, 2005, 09:11:28 PM
Finest
man don't let me piss you off. Damn!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 22, 2005, 09:14:38 PM
They just talked about Mount Union's regular season win streak being snapped on ESPN. D3 lives!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 22, 2005, 10:28:18 PM
finest - i think your points further illustrate that the mc o-line is underrated...mc has been among the league leaders in rushing AND sacks allowed in the conference each of the last few years, yet you continue to downgrade them - you can explain away the sack stats with 3 step drops, but how do you explain the rushing yardage? - today was a prime example...no sacks, 480 yards total offense against the vaunted captains d - if you don't think the mc o-line is underrated, do you think they're overrated?
Quote from: cnusfinest on October 22, 2005, 07:43:15 PM
As far as the CNU defense being exposed I would say that they played their best.
- really??? if that is the best cnu can play defensively, i give them little chance vs. anyone for the rest of the season...the monarchs CARVED that defense up in the first half, and although they didn't score any points, they moved the ball fairly well in the 2nd half as well
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Post by: narch on October 22, 2005, 10:40:19 PM
here is the box score (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2005%20Stats/mc1022.htm#GAME.TEM) - rocket had a very efficient game

cnu fans - i must say, you football fans aren't quite as good at whining and coming up with excuses after a loss as the hoops fans are...i guess you need more practice...BUT, before you start talking about how penalties, 3 red-zone chances w/o any pts, etc. killed cnu's chances, realize this...the monarchs had more penalties and penalty yardage than the capts, larkin missed 2 fg's which were VERY makeable (unlike the blocked fg by mc, neither miss was caused by cnu...he simply pulled one and pushed the other) and rocket's lone interception was at the cnu 2 yard line when mc was inside the cnu 20, so the monarchs missed some opportunities, as well - bottom line, the monarchs were the better team today and they played with a leading rusher who is not 100%, and the leading tackler (lawrence) and a starting cb (shuford) did not play a down in the 2nd half
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 22, 2005, 10:47:37 PM
Quote from: askyouserious on October 21, 2005, 04:17:32 PM
Are you serious........do you really think MC has a chance against CNU....Rocket is good but he doesn't have the weapons that Jones does - the monarch wr's looked GREAT today....Mc defense is suspect at best  - defense still suspect, but they made just enough plays to win and their special teams arent compairable  you were right...monarch specials were FAR SUPERIOR today even with 2 missed fg's - mc blocked a cnu fg, and consistently had better field position than the captains because larkin was booming his kicks and the monarchs covered pretty well

Quote from: askyouserious on October 22, 2005, 02:10:32 PM
Ok that was alow blow about who i was.....so next time leave out the personal stuff and stick to the facts huh?
i don't recall anyone saying anything personal
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on October 22, 2005, 10:55:28 PM
Merry Christmas AU, beat ourselves again.  Pathetic.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 22, 2005, 10:56:38 PM
lastly, i read the release of the ncwc/su game - it sounds as though redkite got his wish and the hornets will turn to a new qb, although not by choice as hoffman will likely miss the remainder of the season due to injury - that's really too bad - i thought hoffman was a tough kid and a solid qb - not the way he wanted to end his season or career
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Post by: Swish3 on October 22, 2005, 10:59:37 PM
What's happened to our defense?  Congrats, MC.

GO CAPS!
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Post by: narch on October 22, 2005, 11:17:25 PM
i've confirmed that if mc, cnu and ferrum finish in a 3 way tie, a coin flip will determine the aq - i really hope this can be settled on the field with a pride win next week and a captain win in the final week, along with the monarchs winning out - as exciting as this game was, and as big a win as it was, it means NOTHING for the monarchs if they don't take care of business from here on - long trip to m'ville next week, then a roadie against gc who has proven dangerous if unable to win and ending with a su team mc has never beaten...gotta take care of business and hope for ferrum to lose 2 of the last 3
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Post by: moshergc9 on October 22, 2005, 11:43:34 PM
Good win for methodist.  Finest, I have a little bit of respect and have some dialouge with some of the Monarch Players that I played against.   Finest if you have an issue with me besides your boastful chest beats then get up with me and we will settle.  But your right, I was hard nose and I would get after your ass. Still would.

Roll Pride!
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Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 22, 2005, 11:49:41 PM
Narch Ok as far as the CNU defense being exposed I am just going to put it out their if it is not apparent now. This is not your typical CNU defense from past years. 40 plus points to Salisbury, over 600 yards of total offense against Rowan, and 35 points put up against us in the first half against MC. Thats not CNU defensive football period. As far as looking at Methodist o line being underated I would say that they will be exposed when they play a good defensive team. Salisbury D is nowhere close to the one they had last season as well as CNU. If you beg to differ than look up last years CNU MC homecoming game. Besides the first drive of the game MC and the Rocket got bottled up. Don't get me miss understood, Narch, congrats to Methodist on a Great win for them and you. But all I am saying about the o line is that they benefit from having Rocket as a QB, they haven't played any good defensive teams yet, and their system doesn't allow Rocket to get sacked as often.

Ha Ha abrngr, I just feel that Mosh has no right to say anything about the Capts when we shut his mouth year after year and he had nothing to say when he was on the field with us.
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Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 22, 2005, 11:50:06 PM
Narch, I never asked or hoped for anyone to get hurt in a game. Was hoping for a shake up with the way the season has gone by letting some back ups show what they have, but no one ever asked, wish or hoped for someone to go down with an injury. I sure would like for you to show me I "wished" for someone to get hurt. For him to go down with a a broken collarbone is not what I or I hope anyone would hope for on anyone.

p.s. Narch, Im sure you did not mean for it to come across that I was wishing for Hoffman to get hurt. But the way it was written came across seemed like I have been cheering for him to go down and taken off the field after getting hurt.  To the Hoffman family. While I have been a big critic of Jon at times I always tried to give him the credit for what he did for the team leading the Hornets to the playoffs last year. While at times you may feel I was hard on him I want you to know all of us Hornet fans wish for him to recover fast.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 22, 2005, 11:57:58 PM
Mosh thats really funny considering you would get mashed in a fist fight with me. :D Really do you think I would waste my time with a pathetic individual like yourself. I wouldn't allow you to come to VA and get pimped smacked back to NC just like your football team did every year. "If you got a problem get at me and we will settle this" HA HA. The fact that you were a sorry football player on a sorry football team must have really hurt. HA HA I guess I could wear my championship rings in the fight, punch you in the face a few times and put Dixie/USA South champs across your forehead. Then you could really get a taste of being a Dixie/USA South champ.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on October 23, 2005, 12:03:51 AM
Narch, we'll do our best next week, and then we'll do our best you all.  It's so disappointing to see a team beat themselves against an inferior team like AU.  And any AU fan who was at the game tonight knows I'm right.

GC 38  Ferrum 35!

ROLL PRIDE!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 23, 2005, 01:30:38 AM
Man there is nothing better to end a night of bouncing around the ocean for ten hours than come home and read that the Monarchs got it done.  Does make me that much more angry that I couldn't get to the game.  Narch, sounds like Rocket was on fire today, is that a record for yardage in a game for MC? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2005, 08:05:58 AM
jesse - sorry...never meant to imply that you wished hoffman hurt...i know that's not the case whatsoever

finest - very mature responses to mosh - it's good to see that your educational experience at cnu prepared you so well for life after football - mosh reached out to you in a mature way and you want to fight...cnufans must be really proud of the way current and former players rep their esteemed university

Quote from: cnusfinest on October 22, 2005, 11:49:41 PM
As far as looking at Methodist o line being underated I would say that they will be exposed when they play a good defensive team. Salisbury D is nowhere close to the one they had last season as well as CNU. If you beg to differ than look up last years CNU MC homecoming game. Besides the first drive of the game MC and the Rocket got bottled up. Don't get me miss understood, Narch, congrats to Methodist on a Great win for them and you. But all I am saying about the o line is that they benefit from having Rocket as a QB, they haven't played any good defensive teams yet, and their system doesn't allow Rocket to get sacked as often.
2 things...#1 - you're talking about LAST year, i'm talking about THIS year - the monarchs run an entirely different offensive system this year - much more down field/vertical passing out of the spread - the system still makes getting to rocket difficult, but yesterday the capts blitzed about 65% of the time and the o-line gave up 0 sacks and accounted for 480 yards of total offense - #2 - do o-lineman only pass pro? do you not give those boys some credit for what they do in the run game? last i checked that was an important part of what an offensive line did

papi -it was a record setting passing day - the 20-29 is more impressive, esp when you realize there were at least 2 dropped balls (hill dropped a screen pass that would have been HUGE and mularski dropped an inside screen that was set up nicely, too)

fayetteville observer game story (http://www.fayettevilleobserver.com/story.php?Template=sports&Story=7221797) - be sure to check out the photo slideshow - there are some pretty good pics, especially doleman's catch in traffic
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 23, 2005, 08:16:14 AM
So how about NCW, and Greensboro. I gather that GC is better than their record indicates, but dont see much about NCW. Where are their strengths and weaknesses?

Ferrum is in a great spot, 7-0 a week off, and 2 of their next 3 games at home....but they cannot look past anyone. I believe that all three of their opponents can beat them, but I guess that CNU will be the toughest game.

I know there are not alot of Ferrum fans on the board, and I really strive not to get controversial on the board, but I have to say I am excited about the Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 23, 2005, 12:33:57 PM
Is it true that in a 3-way USA-South tie that the tie breaker is based on "point-differencial in conference"? If that is the case, lookout for piling up the points in these last three games. ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 23, 2005, 01:31:52 PM
I think there was a 3 way tie in Texas a couple years ago and it seemed like the point differential against common opponents was the deciding factor. I can't imagine that they would actually flip a coin. If it is a coin toss how do you decide which teams go first (3 teams, 2 sides to the coin???)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 23, 2005, 01:35:49 PM
Finest if you have an issue with me besides your boastful chest beats then get up with me and we will settle.  Yea Narch the respectful Mosh really sounded like he was asking to have a cup of tea and chat. I am not trying to take anything from the Monarch win or the Monarch o line. As far as them being underated I still don't see it. You answered all of my questions besides the fact that the monarchs have not played anyone with a dominant defense. You said it yourself CNU's defense was exposed, Ferrum is 7-0 with allowing more than 30 plus points a game, and the Gulls defense is not even close to being as good as they were last year. MC is a good offensive team but its hard to say that their o line is underated when they have not proved themselves against an elite defensive team yet thats all I am saying Narch. For example would you argue that Ferrum is a better team than Mount Union because they are still undefeated and because Mount is not. No the first thing anyone will say is Ferrum have not played anyone that good yet and that their undefeated mark will be exposed against a good team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 23, 2005, 01:39:06 PM
TCheadhunter if you can recall Remember the Titans or Friday night lights I think. it was 3 teams and two coins. Three coins get flipped and odd man out loses. But either way that would be a stupid way to decide who goes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUdude on October 23, 2005, 01:40:32 PM
It's going to be interesting to see how this all will play out. I think it's going to come down to the last game. CNU vs. Ferrum. Odds are Ferrum are going to win there next two games but I think the Captains are going to give them some trouble. I think in the end it will come down to CNU and Methodist. And then it will be up in the air to see who gets the bid.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 23, 2005, 01:43:04 PM
Anybody planning a road trip to the Ferrum/CNU game? Can anyone recommend a good place to stay? I think we may have a small CNU contingent driving up from Williamsburg.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUdude on October 23, 2005, 01:52:10 PM
I will be going to Ferrum game, not sure what the travel arrangements are though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 23, 2005, 01:59:40 PM
CNUdude - What part of VA are you coming from?

I think we have a group of 8-10 who may drive up. We are trying to find a B&B or something similar to stay at.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUdude on October 23, 2005, 02:08:21 PM
I'm coming from Chesapeake.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 23, 2005, 02:55:21 PM
Quote from: tcheadhunter on October 23, 2005, 01:31:52 PM
I think there was a 3 way tie in Texas a couple years ago and it seemed like the point differential against common opponents was the deciding factor. I can't imagine that they would actually flip a coin. If it is a coin toss how do you decide which teams go first (3 teams, 2 sides to the coin???)

Each conference decides for itself what its tiebreaking procedures will be.  Someone needs to ask the USAC office (or visit the website, hopefully the tiebreakers are on the web). 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 23, 2005, 03:16:59 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on October 23, 2005, 02:55:21 PM
Quote from: tcheadhunter on October 23, 2005, 01:31:52 PM
I think there was a 3 way tie in Texas a couple years ago and it seemed like the point differential against common opponents was the deciding factor. I can't imagine that they would actually flip a coin. If it is a coin toss how do you decide which teams go first (3 teams, 2 sides to the coin???)

Each conference decides for itself what its tiebreaking procedures will be.  Someone needs to ask the USAC office (or visit the website, hopefully the tiebreakers are on the web). 

Tried the website deal Ron. ;) You have to have a password to access the information. Top secret stuff you know! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2005, 05:29:40 PM
finest - we are talking about different issues...you're talking about a national scale, i'm talking about a conference scale - you're right that mc has not played an elite defense...they won't either, unless they get a ncaa playoff berth - all discussion about o-lines and the majority of all-conference selections the past few years have centered around the captains, su and even to a degree, ferrum - i think in that context the monarch o-line is very much underrated - personally, i think they are better than the cnu line - the monarchs got TONS of pressure yesterday rushing just 3 in the first half...both sacks were when the monarchs rushed just 3 - in the 2nd half cnu got out of the 4 wide spread they were running in the 1st and kept a te in to block about 50% of the time, and the monarchs didn't blitz much - keep in mind, the monarchs aren't exactly a powerhouse defensive unit, yet the cnu line needed 6 to block 3 or 4 - if you had asked anyone around the conference prior to the game which team had a better ol, it would have been a landslide vote for the captains, yet the monarchs line outperformed them...that is the DEFINITION of underrated - who knows what mc can/will do offensively on a national level? ssu and cnu are clearly the best defensive teams the monarchs have played to this point, and they've passed both tests with flying colors...what else can they do?

as far as mosh goes, we read his statement differently - you're still acting like an uneducated, immature punk to start threatening someone with imprints of your conference championship rings on a message board - i'm sure i'll be the next to feel the wrath of your threats  :'(, but i think i can more than handle them (as can mosh) - i'm a big boy who isn't easily intimidated, especially by someone on some message board - good luck to your boys when they play ferrum...i'll be rooting hard for the captains that day, and that day only

i'm about 90% certain that a 3 way tie would be settled by a coin flip...i'm working on getting confirmation, but coach sy thinks so as well (per his post game comments on the radio)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 23, 2005, 07:47:55 PM
Hmm I wonder if the password and username I have are any good, I may have to check it out, but of course, if I find it out, Ill have deny all knowledge of it!!

tcheadhunter-You live in williamsburg??

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 23, 2005, 07:50:55 PM
Just checked with someone on the "inside" and here's what they told me.

Tie breakers are:
1. Head-to-head competition (which is moot in a three-way tie if it plays out the way we all hope it does.)
2. Performance against higher-rated teams in Conference (not applicable)
3. Common opponent records
4. Coin toss
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 23, 2005, 07:59:42 PM
There are not alot of places to stay around Ferrum.
There is a Comfort Inn in Rocky Mount.  10 miles away. Also plenty of places in Roanoke, but thats 35 miles away

If you want to camp there is Fairy Stone State Park 800-933-PARK for reservations
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 23, 2005, 08:48:42 PM
CNUfan - I do live in Williamsburg. Down near Jamestown Island, off of Greensprings Rd. What about yourself? Also in Williamsburg?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 23, 2005, 08:54:28 PM
Thanks AllenC. I looked on the internet today and didn't come up with much. I did see a few places in Rocky Mount, Martinsville and Danville. I am assuming that they are all close to Ferrum. There seem to be a few B&B's in the area with reasonable rates as well ($100-$150/night).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 23, 2005, 09:36:34 PM
Dont assume that
Roanoke is closer than Danville.

Martinsville is not that bad, but there really is no straight shot.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 23, 2005, 09:40:18 PM
Had the oppurtunity to watch the Gboro game this weekend...

Greensboro is getting better every game this year and I wouldnt be surprised if it knocked a team out of that coin flip you guys are talking about.  Besides three bad snaps on punt team they played a pretty clean game.


Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2005, 09:41:44 PM
allen c & blackhats- you've got to be feeling pretty good about your boys right now...it sure would be nice if the monarchs controlled their own destiny - fc can actually lose any 1 game but the cnu game, and the bid is theirs by virtue of hth with mc - does that comfort inn in rocky mount have running water? :)

cnufan - that's exactly how i understand the tie breaker, as well - it really is the most sportsmanlike way to do it, although i don't like it (hopefully gc or ncwc AND cnu will take care of ferrum and the monarchs will win out so we don't have to worry about a tie breaker :)) - otherwise, you would have teams really trying to run up the score, and that wouldn't sit too well with coaches or fans
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on October 23, 2005, 10:15:41 PM
  Narch. To continue our discussion from the ODAC board:
BC and Ferrum have 3 common opponents so lets see how they fared:

Ferrum 41,Guilford 7
Ferrum 29,E&H 13
Ferrum 34,Shenandoah 13

BC 62,Guilford 46
BC 31, E&H 17
BC 49, Shenandoah 20

  I am a BC fan and have been for over 20 years but if we played Ferrum it would be a very close shootout. Ferrum is +71 vs those 3 teams and BC is +59.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 23, 2005, 10:24:29 PM
Yes it has running water....its down the hill by the parking lot!

I have never stayed there, but my guess is they have most all of the modern ammenities, even iff their continental(sp??) breakfast consists of eggs and pickled pigs feet. I will be there, staying in the comfort inn friday night. I doubt there will be alot to do....cow tipping or something like that.

It should be a good game, but I just hope FC benefits from the week off, and dont  lose their edge for these next two games. They need to be there hitting on all 8, with no losses. I have my fingers crossed.

Is black hats back?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on October 23, 2005, 10:56:08 PM
The  USA Conf. has been getting more competitive in the last 3 yrs.  What a good victory for Meth. If there will be a 3 way tie, I hope the system favors Meth.  As for CNU D. being exposed, will lets just say coaches up in the box coaches don't blitz good QB's enough per game. Coaches Ha ! CNU's Defense is young though but will mature in the long run. When the entire team developes a idenity of there own and the coaches play the right personnel in that 4 man down scheem
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 23, 2005, 11:11:54 PM
Narch I used to assume that you were a pretty smart guy but recently you have been making me wonder. "as far as mosh goes, we read his statement differently - you're still acting like an uneducated, immature punk to start threatening someone with imprints of your conference championship rings on a message board - i'm sure i'll be the next". 1 Don't ever question my education because you don't know anything about me. 2 I am far from being immature and I am far from being a punk. 3 as far as threatening Mosh with my championship rings that WAS SARCASM AND NOTHING MORE THAN A JOKE. Since you can read so well I guess you just missed the part where I wrote that I wouldn't waste my time with a pathetic individual like Mosh.  I guess since you and Mosh are private school best friends you can interpret what he writes one way and then omit half of what I post in another.

And you want to talk about me when I refer to last year stuff. CNU's offensive line was much better last year than what it is now. Those guys started all four years together and had great chemistry. Unlike Methodist they proved it not only aganinst conference teams but also against  good teams. Does Rowan 33 points scored, Salisbury 25 plus, and Bridgewater 21 ring a bell. They moved the ball against quality opponents and won big games all with a first year backup calling the signals.  As far as CNU getting a lot of the All conference selections in the past I would have to say that those players where selected by the other coaches including Methodist very own. Everyone knows that the winners of the conference should and normally does get the most players on the all conference teams.

"good luck to your boys when they play ferrum...i'll be rooting hard for the captains that day, and that day only"

The Captains and our fans know that every other team in our conference hates us so we could give a (you know what if anyone in this conference besides our fans root for us). Everything we have accomplished in the past and will accomplish in the future was done for our school, fans, staff, and players. We don't need your luck or your support if it is not sincere.

I will say that if the Captains don't win the conference and don't get the AQ, I would hope that MC gets its shot. Not because I give a damn about MC or Narch but I do like the Rocket. The guy is a leader on the field and he plays hard. Last year Rocket was fired up and talking a lot of trash before and during the game along with the rest of his teammates. But after our defense took control of the game he continued to play hard but his friendly trash talk stopped. His teammates however(the monarch great offensive linemen) resulted to playing dirty and spitting in defenders faces. When Rocket heard his teammates talking trash during the game he told them to shut up and stop talking about it but instead start proving it with their play.  Unlike Mosh who was a scrub, Rocket gained my respect with his play and actions on the field and not with posting on the web of how much of a hard nosed player he was.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 24, 2005, 12:38:49 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest on October 23, 2005, 11:11:54 PM
Since you can read so well I guess you just missed the part where I wrote that I wouldn't waste my time with a pathetic individual like Mosh. 

Hmm, yeah, that really puts things in a different light, right? :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on October 24, 2005, 06:48:31 AM
Ferrum 41, Guilford 7
Ferrum 29, E&H 13
Ferrum 34, Shenandoah 13

Bridgewater 62, Guilford 46
Bridgewater 31, E&H 17
Bridgewater 49, Shenandoah 20
       Ferrum +71, BC +59
   My only point is if BC is #14 in the Coaches poll Ferrum should be top 25 and they might be this week. If BC is #20 in the d3 poll then Ferrum should at least crack the top 30.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 24, 2005, 09:43:58 AM
By far the best thing that happened this season so far is seeing the captains lose to a usac private school. 

Love it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 24, 2005, 09:48:27 AM
finest - we may have to agree to disagree...when i saw that mosh wrote that he had some "dialogue" with other former players and invited you to "get up with him", i assumed he was talking about ironing things out in a mature, educated, adult fashion...you thought he was talking about a fist-fight - i'm not sure who is right, but having seen mosh mature on this board from a trash talking player (i believe i called him a punk after some of his early posts) to someone who actually provides interesting insight into the life of a former player and current coach, i like to think that my interpretation of his comments was closer than yours - your post SAID you wouldn't waste time on mosh, and then you spent the next 7 lines degrading him and his play, and threatening to, in essence, beat him up...you've taken further posts to continue to assert that mosh was a scrub (my interpretation of your words) - in my book that's the type of thing an uneducated, immature, punk would do - sorry that i missed the sarcasm or the joke

jeremyboyzz - that's interesting analysis...maybe bc is overrated :) - seriously though, i think ferrum moving up 4 spots with a bye week is pretty good - i know they jumped over wesley, who had previously been in the top 25 - did a lot of the teams just outside of the top 25, but ahead of fc lose?...if not, you can't expect much gain - you can argue that fc should have been ranked higher to begin with (which, by the way, has already been done ad nauseum by the fc fans), but i don't think that you can expect an idle team to move up more than 3 or 4 spots unless a lot of teams in front of them lose
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ballcoach on October 24, 2005, 10:26:06 AM
Narc, (and Uncle Jessie),

Thanks for the well wishes for Jon (Hoffman). Uncle Jess no need to explain yourself. This has been a tough year for all. Obviously you can understand we are devistated by the career ending injury ie: for things to end this way. Jon looked at me from the hoispital bed as I was visibly upset and said.."We've had a hellva ride haven't we Dad" He is a tough kid and will be there to support his team and coaches from the sideline.....tonite I have to shake myself out of this and take my 40 boys out and play a non district game that was cancelled on Friday. I know that SU and the USASAC was not Southern Cal or Notre Dame ..but it was for me and I could not be any prouder of my son, his teamates, and the SU coaches for all their efforts these past 4 years. All will be fine ....
                                                                 Thanks again, Jim
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 24, 2005, 10:30:07 AM
"Adversity is natures method of teaching man to take possesion of his own mind."

        -Mark Twain
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 24, 2005, 10:44:14 AM
tcheadhunter-
     I do live in da Burg. I live at the other end, near the Candle Factory off Croaker Road.  CNU Class of '01 too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 24, 2005, 12:34:45 PM
LOL... I Love it!!! Mosh is still on the private v public thing...the dead horse we beat the past few years. A great victory for MC and all Mosh can come up with is way to go MC for beating a public school. It happens every weekend and he makes it sound like Rapture. I think his headstone will read (70 years from now) CNU lost to a private school in 2005. Let's see CNU has lost to Ferrum, SU, and MC.

Narch - I'll have to admit, if I could pick any USA South team to beat CNU this year, it would have been your guys. SU is off this year for some reason (I think they've given up). I knew the CNU streak against NC schools would eventaully end.....glad it was to you guys and Rocket.

I listened to most of the game on radio. MC was bringing it in the first half. Then they gutted out a nice performance by CNU in the second half. I thought for sure CNU would win when they scored early in the 4th to cut the lead to 7. But MC did a gut check and got r done.

As far as your hoops comment.....the only thing I whine about is the scheduling!! I freaking can't wait until the 2 games against Maryland Bible - at the Freeman Center!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 24, 2005, 01:18:26 PM
ballcoach - tell jon we're sorry that he's going to miss playing in the first ever victory for the monarchs over su  :D

'85 - i must admit, the last 2 years, the only whining cnu hoops fans have done has been in regard to cj...that's what happens when you go from being dominant to being and also ran :) - we'll see if this football season is a sign of things to come and this conference will be wide open, or if the universe straightens back out and we go back to cnu and whomever they tie (since they haven't won an outright title yet :)) - you've got to admit that it's just much more fun when everyone has a chance every week

starting to get focused on m'ville...it's tough for me as a fan...i hope the players don't have the same problem - with gc, au, su, ncwc it was easy to get focused when they started playing mc...they were known entities because they were already conference schools in other sports and in the case of gc and ncwc there were some state bragging rights at stake - the rivalries had already been established - although we play m'ville fairly regularly in hoops, i just know nothing about them on the gridiron - i thought we'd have some m'ville posters since they're pretty active on the hoops board, but i guess it's a basketball school in their fans eyes - statistically, this should be a one-sided game, but they don't play games on a computer and there is a 9 hour bus trip involved - the monarchs can't let the high of this win cloud their performance next week - beating cnu means NOTHING unless the monarchs win out and have a chance to get into the ncaa playoffs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 24, 2005, 02:16:52 PM
Mville wont be easy I dont think, narch. They did have Ferrum's number for much of that game until the fourth quarter. I dont think it will be as bad you think it will be narch. I think Mville will play it straight and will be close, for at least three quarters. Shoot, I could be wrong, and Methodist could blow their doors off, or, the Monarchs could have a huge let down and get beat. Thats why they play the game, right?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 24, 2005, 03:19:02 PM
rocket named offensive potw (http://www.usasouth.net/pow/10-24-05.htm) - congrats! - do it again vs. m'ville :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on October 24, 2005, 06:24:04 PM
I'm hoping for a 3-way tie in 3 weeks, also I hope Meth. gets a playoff nod, for Mosh and Narch sake, maybe Meth. should, that would be great.  CNU needs to take a step back this year and revamp the entire team from coache's to the last player who dosen't travel.  Changes need to be made and the new young guys need to find a identity of there own.  Coache's need to take a new approach to there team, this is a different team from the original 4 year starter team.  Then all you Meth. fans, especially Mosh & Narch, CNU will come back next year with a whole new attitude and run the table like they are always preseason to be. Don't ever count CNU out.  As for the next CNU's 3 games they will be tough, especially Ferrum being that the game will be played up in the mountains, Ferrum won't go away easy, if they are 0-9, Ferrum plays like they are 10-0 against CNU, it's because they used to rule the conference, Narch & Mosh not Meth. Good game ROCK!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 24, 2005, 09:11:11 PM
Quote from: narch on October 24, 2005, 09:48:27 AM
finest - we may have to agree to disagree...when i saw that mosh wrote that he had some "dialogue" with other former players and invited you to "get up with him", i assumed he was talking about ironing things out in a mature, educated, adult fashion...you thought he was talking about a fist-fight - i'm not sure who is right, but having seen mosh mature on this board from a trash talking player (i believe i called him a punk after some of his early posts) to someone who actually provides interesting insight into the life of a former player and current coach, i like to think that my interpretation of his comments was closer than yours - your post SAID you wouldn't waste time on mosh, and then you spent the next 7 lines degrading him and his play, and threatening to, in essence, beat him up...you've taken further posts to continue to assert that mosh was a scrub (my interpretation of your words) - in my book that's the type of thing an uneducated, immature, punk would do - sorry that i missed the sarcasm or the joke

Agree to disagree or whatever. Bottom line is I don't care what you call me on a message board. Ha Ha you have seen Mosh mature as a poster but every time he says something about CNU it is negative. Mosh continues to try to kick my Captains while we are down, or when ever he DECIDES TO BRING UP THE PRIVATE VS PUBLIC CRAP. You and Pat Coleman can defend Mosh all you want but facts are facts. If Mosh wants to continue to wish bad luck on the Captains and when everytime we lose then he wants to speak up and rub it in our faces, I will continue to post what I want about him. You may assume that I am a punk, uneduacated, and immature all you want. But I know that Mosh was a scrub if he couldn't start for Gboro in his playing days. All this talk about me beating up on Mosh is funny because like I said I wouldn't waste my time.  Besides I did enough against his team on the field to settle any score I would  ever had with him. Narch you need to check yourself and what you post. If you could look back from post back in 02-05 you would see that Mosh has probably never said anything postive about my team and quite frankly I am tired of it. I hate Shenandoah with a passion but when they made it to the playoffs I was happy to hear during the game that they were winning.  I will wish any team from our conference luck if they make it to the post season because whoever goes takes the USA South playoff record there with them. The way I look at it back in 01 our conference was ranked dead last ouut of all the conferences in d3. Almost single handily we pulled our conference up to respectability.(And I said almost Narch so don't jump on me their). We took the lumps against Widener, Rowan, Bwater and some others to name a few. Now look at us, the people from Widener and Rowan have respect for our program. Not to mention that Bwater (a national power house have elected not to play us anymore right now because we were to tough of a team to play right before their HSC game and Mcdaniel dropped us as well. Did we get any congrats from a lot of our conference for that kind of stuff. NO! So look at things through CNU fans eyes for a while. When we win all we get is they are a public school crap from most conf. poster but when we lose its all fun and open season on CNU.   People on this board can smite me all they want for my opinions but they are mine and I have always stood up for what I believe. I give credit when credit is due and I tell the truth the way I see it.

When I was in high school my team sucked and in our best year we finished second in our district. I used to hate the teams that where always on top because I wished it could have been my team. What I didn't realize until I came to CNU was that the top teams worked hard for what they accomplished. Week in and week out CNU gets everyones best.  We have to prepare for every team like its the super bowl because for them it is. Mosh keeps down playing our accomplishments like the things we did where easy because we are a public school and we have very nice facilities. Bottom line is if he had enough money to go to Gboro then he could have just as easily signed up to come to CNU. All the time people keep talking about the talent enriched 757. But lets take a look at the bigger picture. Look at all of the d3 schools, d2, d1AA, and d1 schools that also heavily recruit this area.  Im not even going to mention that it is hard as crap for anyone to get into CNU these days. And oh yeah ODU is getting a team in a few years so I think the VA pool is getting rather dry.   Bottom line is I don't care who trash talks CNU or boo our team when we come to town because it is only natural. But when people in our conference don't have nothing to say about us when we are bashing their teams head in, don't come on here and yell hip hop hooray when we lose to another team. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on October 24, 2005, 09:24:40 PM
Yea cnufinest, I agree with you. I always thought there was hate from Meth. people, especially from Mosh.  Yea now I realize they are just playing hating because they wish they could have been captains. :o :( :o :o :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 24, 2005, 09:56:11 PM
1- I was a starter
2- when yall went to the postseason i pulled for your team (regardless of the amount of morons that posted, such as yourself)
3- im glad you lost in high school.....Im glad mine didnt and I enjoyed a four yr varsity career at a school with 3500 kids. 
4- my name is on my post, I had every confidence in the way I played the game...My most glaring weakness was covering the slot.  What I lacked in speed I overcame wiht hardwork and heart.   Your team got me on a fake reverse pass my senior yr...yup i was a little too aggressive.
5- My fist fighting days are over...I teach high school history...enough said.
6- person who posted last please dont ever say that i played for methodist (horrible yellow that my hs teams sometimes wear)
7- finest, you act like a little, tiny woman when your team losses and somebody says something about it.  grow up, really.  everyone knows you have the obvious advantage.  by the way, your losing hs record reflects your attitude.  it is evident in the way you represent yourself and your school.  it is evident in the way that cnu fans (not all of them)/ players have represented themselves on this board.  If I recall your coach wouldnt even let you post on here. 
8- that is because you have no class and it is a sign that your coach did not respect your maturity
9- that was my number,  great number...miss wearing it

raw meat, eat em up
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 24, 2005, 09:59:25 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest on October 24, 2005, 09:11:11 PM
Mosh is funny because like I said I wouldn't waste my time.
yet you CONTINUE to talk about what a scrub he was in his playing days

Quote from: cnusfinest on October 24, 2005, 09:11:11 PM
I will wish any team from our conference luck if they make it to the post season
as have i...i think any long time posters and readers will tell you i'm the first to admit when the monarchs get spanked that they aren't the best team, and i have jumped firmly on the cnu bandwagon for the post season for the last 4 years...forgive me if i want the monarchs to be that team this year

Quote from: cnusfinest on October 24, 2005, 09:11:11 PM
The way I look at it back in 01 our conference was ranked dead last ouut of all the conferences in d3. Almost single handily we pulled our conference up to respectability.(And I said almost Narch so don't jump on me their)
i think the word you are looking for is there (gotta love that cnu english dept.), but i agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY, and i give cnu ALL of the credit - before cnu this conference was pretty much a collection of average fb programs - cnu started kicking some back side in conf. and out and coach sypult, coach davis and coach barnes decided that they could moan or get better...they decided to get better - cnu raised the bar and the result is pretty solid football - thanks for the part you played

Quote from: cnusfinest on October 24, 2005, 09:11:11 PM
Mosh keeps down playing our accomplishments like the things we did where easy because we are a public school and we have very nice facilities.
the public/private horse is DEAD, but anyone who doesn't acknowledge the advantages cnu inherently has is putting on blinders - i read that cnu has built 400 million dollars worth of facilities in 7 years...there are many schools (including all of the usasac & most of the odac schools) who wouldn't be able to raise that kind of money in 100 years...it IS an advantage, like it or not

Quote from: cnusfinest on October 24, 2005, 09:11:11 PM
Im not even going to mention that it is hard as crap for anyone to get into CNU these days.
cnu's average gpa is about .2 higher than mc's and the average sat is about 35 pts higher...with about 600 more freshman, meaning you can admit more lower end students without adversly affecting the average - simply look at the lack of writing skills displayed on this board by EVERY current and most former cnu players, then try to convince the outside observer that cnu is academically superior...

anyway - m'ville is on the clock, and i can't figure them out...i've got some stats to pour over - good luck to your boys this week - these will be my last words on this subject - i've enjoyed our dialogue - thank you for not threatening to beat me up  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on October 24, 2005, 10:33:24 PM
I have been away from the computer for awhile, but I have to know one thing?

"His teammates however(the monarch great offensive linemen) resulted to playing dirty and spitting in defenders faces"

Who in the world was that?

Great game MC......Ready Ready Monarch?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 24, 2005, 10:50:42 PM
welcome back mc55ol

i meant to post this article about antwin shuford last week, but here it is anyway (http://www.fayettevilleobserver.com/story.php?Template=sports&Story=7217244)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 24, 2005, 10:57:21 PM
Narch I wouldn't waste my time in a fist fight  ;D never said that I wouldn't continue to call him a scrub.
Mosh by the way saying you started for the (number 2 ranked defense at one point in 03 makes it that much better Mosh)  :o :o :o :D WHHHHHHHHHHhhooooooooooooaaaaaaa got me there.

Narch I never said YOU wished bad luck on CNU, I just stated that most people in our conference could not support our conference the same.

"and out and coach sypult, coach davis and coach barnes decided that they could moan or get better...they decided to get better - cnu raised the bar and the result is pretty solid football - thanks for the part you played"  Come on Narch before you can criticize someone else you must first proof read your own post english major.  ;) ;) I will admit that I am no english guru I am a history major. But I will say that I proof read my papers as does any good writer should and I normally get A's B's and sometimes C's on the majority of my papers.

Yeah the fine arts building that P. Trible just built has inspired over half of the 757 football standouts to pick CNU over the 10 plus football schools in VA they can choose from. Bottom line is their are plenty of schools with really crappy facilities and they seem to be doing just fine and some even a lot better than CNU.

"Im glad mine didnt and I enjoyed a four yr varsity career at a school with 3500 kids" Once again Mosh you got me there. 3500 kids in your high school prepared you for 4 dominant years of USA/South/ Dixe play. ??? ???

"finest, you act like a little, tiny woman when your team losses and somebody says something about it.  grow up, really." Not really actually Im over 6 foot tall, but you my friend shorty, maybe another reason for you to be jealous of a CNU player.  I don't cry when my team losses I was one of the first to congratulate Meth on their win. W&J beat us twice, Bwater gave it to us in a playoff game, Widener blessed us, Rowan gave us a few dominant losses and I acknowledge them.  Unlike your team during my playing days we did however lose games that we should have won but I guess you can't really relate to that, being that your team consistently lost by 2 or 3 tds. BUT WAIT MOSH HAD OVER 3500 KIDS IN HIS HIGH SCHOOL. ;D ;D

Okay Mosh I will finally tell you how I really feel about you and your Gboro crew.  No matter what I say verbally about your team deep down I have nothing but love for your boys. AFTER ALL THEY WERE ME AND THE REST OF MY CAPTAINS FIRST.  THEN AGAIN GBORO WAS NCW FIRST AND MARYVILLE'S FIRST.  ;D ;D Sorry buddy but where I come from we tend to call individuals like that JUMP OFF'S if you get my drift.

Oh my gosh Narch  :-\  :-X I did it again. The little punk/uneduacated/immature animal came out of me again. Oh brother what am I to do about clowning poor little respectable MOSH. After all he did have 3500 kids in his high school.

"What I lacked in speed I overcame wiht hardwork and heart. "

Oh yeah narch I might have used there instead of their, but damn at least my mistake was an actual word in the english language.

Why didn't you say something about Mosh, Narch.  ;D Awww and it looked like he actually put a lot of time and effort into it. Look he even stopped his reply on the number 9. That was his old college number Awwwwwww Im going to cry that was so cute. And he is calling me a little woman, thats really something a hard nosed football player would have taken time to do.  :)

Now Narch

1 if you can't get the humor in this post then you are lame
2 if not I thought it was pretty funny  ;)
3 you see where I am going with this
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7
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9 number of times we would have beaten Mosh and his picture taking Pride if we had to play them over and over again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 24, 2005, 11:08:44 PM
Doesn't matter now MC55 but I was the player that it happened to so I know for a fact that it happened. But I didn't retaliate, I proceeded to make plays in the game. I choose to be the bigger man, but you wouldn't know that by the way that I post. Some call me a punk, immature, and uneducated but my friends and teammates would rather call me a HORSEMEN or some would even call me Franchise. To each its own but I know who I am and it didn't take 3500 kids  :o in my high school for me to figure it out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 24, 2005, 11:11:52 PM
Wow,
 You are so lame.  Point I was trying to make.  Was that, I had 250 kids that tried out for my high school team.  I was a winner then.  Winning early under great leadership molded my attitude.  When I chose a school.  I chose a school that I thought was up and coming.  The Pride was averaging about 30 points a game with a good rb named Gholsen.  I came to the school.  I played hard.  We never broke .500.  Not without effort.  Everyone I played with gave the game everything they had.  You are not a winner.  You were on a winning team.  You display the same characteristics that I face at a school that went 0-10 last yr.  You are a loser.  You are the epitome of the word.  Your attitude reflects it.  I have many friends.   I carry myself as a winner.  You represent yourself on the other side of the spectrum.  You are not a warrior.  You are a coward.  I have no respect for you because you  never learned to respect your opponent or the game.  You started as a loser and eventually you were on a winning team.  Two very diff things.  


Proud of the Pride!
 Always will be.  that is my team, 1-5.  doesnt matter.  they will be better next min, hr, week, yr.

Roll Pride
Proud of the Pride
SS9
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 24, 2005, 11:13:31 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest on October 24, 2005, 10:57:21 PM
"and out and coach sypult, coach davis and coach barnes decided that they could moan or get better...they decided to get better - cnu raised the bar and the result is pretty solid football - thanks for the part you played" Come on Narch before you can criticize someone else you must first proof read your own post english major. ;) ;) I will admit that I am no english guru I am a history major. But I will say that I proof read my papers as does any good writer should and I normally get A's B's and sometimes C's on the majority of my papers.
quote the entire post, then please enlighten me...what word (or words) did i use incorrectly??? - i don't typically correct obvious typo's (as in mosh's post) and you will also note that i don't critcize punctuation (this is a message board), just people who can't utilize the english language (as in those who unkowingly interchange words like there, their and they're) - most 6th graders learn the difference between those words and repeated inability to utilize such basic tenets of our language indicates a lack of intellect and/or proper education - good night  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 25, 2005, 01:01:48 AM
cnu started kicking some back side in conf. and out and coach sypult, coach davis and coach barnes decided.

and out and coach sypult, coach davis. Im not the genius here but it does not sound grammatically correct to me.

Furthermore I simply typed the wrong word, Im sure Im not the first person nor will I be the last person to do so. But its okay when you mis spell unknowingly, because Im sure if you knowingly did so you would have corrected it.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 25, 2005, 01:11:26 AM
Whatever Mosh you always talk about what you did and what you went through to get where you are. Talking about taking a chance what about the leap of faith a loser like myself and over a 100 others took when we signed with CNU in 01. It is very uncommon for a first year program to do well but since we were the first ever public school established program I guess it made everything a lot easier. Talking about giving it everything you had.  Yeah I sat on my a$$ and watched 20-23 year olds as well as players from the glorified 757 come into camp fighting for a spot on the depth chart. I was a freshmen who came from a small school that endured losing season right up until my senior year, where I had a big part in getting us back into the playoffs. I ended up starting that year and ended  up landing a spot on the all conference team.  Im not gonna tell my life story on here like some others, but my teammates and coaches know what I went through as a student athlete and believe me no one at CNU would dare call me a loser.

Bottom line is this all started when CNU lost to Methodist and you saw another oppourtunity to poke fun and rub the loss in the face of the public school 4 time champs.  Then when I called you a scrub you and Narch got all offended.  Point of the matter is if it wasn't true YOU WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN YOUR PANTIES IN A BUNCH. You have posted on this board for a long time now and like I said the majority of your post about MY Captains have been negative. Quite frankly I have gotten tired of you jabbing my Captains when we lose a game. If memory serves me correctly you never congratulated us when we punished your Pride year after year. Nope we never hear from the proud Mosh then. Bottom line is your mad because I got in your sh$$ and what hurts the most is that I wasn't far from the truth. I'll go on record and say that yeah you was not the worst, but hey lets get real David Legg wouldn't have recruited you to play for CNU.

For example I could post on here that Rocket, Justin Wood, Pitts from Ferrum, or Wilkerson from Methodist back in the day were all scrubs. Bottom line is I would be lying and if they posted on here they would either laugh it off, not reply to it, or simply state that their play on Saturday would do all of their talking. And yeah I could post on here what my name is and what position I played for CNU. But what would that solve, just because you and Narch don't like what I post and how I post. Im sure you two would probably have a great time criticizing me as a player. Bottom line is I wouldn't care, I worked hard to become a very good player and by the time I hung my cleats up for the Captains, I  had made a pretty decent name for myself.  I don't care if you don't respect me as a poster but I am pretty sure your coach respected me as a player.  At the end of the day you always take shots at my boys and finally I hit you where it hurts. So if you continue to bash my Captains when you have no right to, then I will continue to joke your playing days because thats what it was. Take that to the bank cash it, bounce it, or whatever the he :o :o  you want to do with it. I know now that you might change your tone a little and transform back into the respectable guy that Narch so valintly defended. But its not so funny when the joke is being played on you is is Mosh9, Pride boy, warrior scrub, or whatever else you call yourself.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 25, 2005, 01:16:13 AM
Has the board gone back to this?  I stopped reading/posting in this forum for a couple of years because it became ridiculous smack talking instead of talking football.
Back to football, what kind of offense does M-ville run?  Narch, I know you've been tapping your sources in the NSA and CIA and have the low down on them!

MC55...what's up brother...thought you had fallen off the edge of the planet?  How them Vikes doing?  EC's still rolling undefeated!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 25, 2005, 08:42:34 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest on October 25, 2005, 01:01:48 AM
Im not the genius here
i couldn't agree more  :)

papi -  my sources are pretty tight lipped right now...not sure why, but they aren't saying much - there is certainly a sense of purpose that i've never experienced with this football team...and that's a good thing - here is what i know about m'ville:

they rank 6th in scoring offense (21.6 ppg)
they rank 7th in yardage gained (334 ypg)
they are balanced (135 rypg, 5th - 199 pypg, 5th)
they are 6th in total defense (allow 408 ypg)
they are 8th in scoring defense (allow 36.9 ppg)

the starting rb averages 3.6 ypc, but they have a wr who has 7 td's (all in conference games) and averages 78 ypg in receptions - he's 6'1, 180...could be a difficult match up for the monarchs - he went for 182 yards and 3 td's vs. ferrum

the other thing i know is that it will be a LONG bus ride through the mountains to get to m'ville...you know that you can never underestimate the affects of that type of trip - hopefully the monarchs will leave early enough to get that out of their system before game time - mc needs to come out firing on all cylinders like they did vs. cnu

GO PRIDE (beat ferrum), GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on October 25, 2005, 10:33:37 AM
DD, the vikes are not doing so hot this year! Its hard to coach heart, and we both know that will be the downfall of any team.  That new coach at EC sure has them playing some good football.

Ready Ready Monarchs!


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 25, 2005, 11:06:27 AM
Narch, any update on Hill?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on October 25, 2005, 11:29:08 AM
Narch et al:  I have not figured out how Maryville really stacks up with the USASouth but I do know enough about the team and coaches to be pretty sure Methodist had best not assume the records tell the whole story.  It is Homecoming and a lot of young players have had nearly a year to figure out what it takes to win, and the coach sure knows....

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 25, 2005, 12:53:22 PM
papi - hill played at about 75% full strength on saturday - i think this is an injury that will linger for most of the remainder of the season - there were a couple of plays against cnu where he looked explosive but for the most part, he looked just ok - mcswain ran HARD, especially in the first half, and i have a feeling that he'll get 10-12 touches per game and hill will get 15-20 (instead of the 25-30 he was getting early) - both are special athletes with enough speed to make big plays - i think a little more of the load will fall on rocket and the wr's - if the wr's keep making plays for roncketti like they did saturday, the offense will be fine...you would have LOVED throwing to this group - they've got decent size, they can stretch the field, they run well after the catch and all of them catch the ball with their hands

scottiedoug - thanks for the info. - i don't think that the monarchs will take anyone lightly from here forward...too much at stake

i have confirmed with 100% certainty that it will be a coin flip to decide the championship if ferrum loses to cnu (and nobody else) and cnu wins out - i've been thinking about alternatives, and i think in the future the conference should consider using defensive points allowed in games involving the teams tied as the tie-breaker rather than a coin flip - using point spread encourages a team to run up the score, which is never good - using defensive points allowed would work...i don't know ANY defensive coach who says "let 'em score...we've got a 24 point lead with 3 minutes left, who cares" - in the case of a 3 way, the team with the lowest combined points allowed in the 2 games against the other teams gets the bid...it certainly seems less random than a coin flip
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on October 25, 2005, 12:54:32 PM
Ferrum is #25 in Coaches poll.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 25, 2005, 03:49:03 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest on October 25, 2005, 01:11:26 AM

  If memory serves me correctly you never congratulated us when we punished your Pride year after year. Nope we never hear from the proud Mosh then.

Finest you have the nerve to write that. How many times have you called the Hornets "the girls of SU" and were lucky for the wins in the past years over CNU. Never saying anything positive yourself. Bottom line is you are the most sore loser in the room.
Mosh's team beat the so called mighty Captains and had a reason to be happy for the teams win. He never made it personal until you shot your mouth off. Your the one calling him out to fight, saying he wouldn't have the guts to talk to you in person. If you act this immature in person why would anyone want to say anything to you.
None of us in here are truly innocent with all of the POSTS they have written over the years in here. We have all gone over the top at times and have been carried away cheering for the team that they like best. The public/private debate will go on for ever as long as CNU is in the USAC and most likely no one from CNU or the other private schools will agree on this. Mosh has been on this site for along time. I cant remember the last time he was in an argument with ANYONE in here. But you constantly complain, make things personal when someone writes something that you don't agree with. You are a sore loser and you have a lot of growing up to do.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 25, 2005, 04:19:05 PM
cnusfinest - As a CNU alumnus and Captains football fan I am embarrassed by your behavior and I hope the rest of the board realizes that you are the exception and not the rule.

"May you have the hindsight to know where you've been, the foresight to know where you are going, and insight to know when you're going too far."
- Irish Proverb

To the rest of you guys  ;):
The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 25, 2005, 04:39:26 PM
Jessie - Mosh's team is not MC.  It's one thing if an MC player came on here and gloated the win, but for a 3rd party guy to take jabs, is like kicking Michael Spinks after his 91 second knockout by Mike Tyson. He could have just posted what a great job MC did and congrats, etc......but he (like an old woman) came on here bringing up stuff that we have been reading about years ago.

I, like Papi, started to stay away from here because of the posts very similar to what Mosh has started. Then when someone fires back at him, he freaks. Then he posts totally irrelevent crap on here that we read through, hoping there is a point.

Here is one for ya - my school only had 1500 (10-12 grade- late 70's - so I'm old). We didn't have cuts. If you could survive the 2 a days, you were on the team. The result: a few state championships over the years, several D1 scholarships, and a few NFL players.  And I wasn't on the team. I worked out one year and realized I was gonna get killed!! My first year in HS our football team played 10 games - 6 against top 10 ranked schools in Virginia. The year after I left (or maybe 2 yrs) they went to Cincinnati and played National #1 ranked Mueller coached by Gerry Faust - who went on to coach Notre Dame. My HS lost 10-0 (I think - maybe 10-7). My point? I have none - just throwing crap out there. Sounds good. Maybe I should write a book. I'll call it Moshisms.

Maybe it's time for me to hibernate again and let the board die down (or come back when Mosh's period is over).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 25, 2005, 04:40:29 PM
TC - heavy stuff after working all day. I'll re-read it in the morning. Brain is shot at 4:40.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 25, 2005, 05:06:43 PM
2 usasac schools among the top 5 in region according to pat cummings in around the region (http://www.d3football.com/atr.php?region=midatlantic)...first time i can remember the monarchs being one of them...don't let up boys...gotta go 3-0 from here out and see what happens - does anyone think my tie-break suggestion has merit? does anyone care? c'mon, i'm trying really hard to get us back to talking football

Mid-Atlantic Region Top 5

Delaware Valley
Bridgewater
Ferrum
Johns Hopkins
Methodist
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 25, 2005, 05:18:07 PM
Narch,


congrats on the top 5....and to Ferrum.

As far as your tie breaker idea......nope, don't like it. It rewards good defensive teams, but doesn't take into account the offense. What if a team plays some really tough competition, wins a few games, but has to shoot thelights out to win? They get penalized in your suggestion. I like the quality of wins scenario. Although it reminds me of the old High School Power rankings in Va. I remember my school beating the mighty Hampton Crabbers, finish with the same conference record, and sitting home because Hampton had a higher power rating. Thus, Va came up with divisions within each level (division 5 and 6 for AAA).

how about a round robin contest with the same rules as Overtime? All on the same field at the same time.....not sure how it would work...but at least it would be decided on the field!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 25, 2005, 06:32:31 PM
Uncle Jessie first of all get your facts straight. Losing a game by 4 where your team had every oppourtunity to score 2 or 3 more TD's to put the game completely out of hand is another thing.  In Mosh's case we beat them easily every year so he has no room to say anything about the Captains. Personally I don't like some SU fans on here because they gloat year in and year out as if they were the best thing since sliced bread. Like I said the only thing they have done in the last few years is squeak out a few wins against the Captains.

TCheadhunter I hear you and I understand where you are coming from. I never said anything  bad about the Monarchs and their upset of CNU. They put up 35 points in the first half and we eventually lost by 7. Bottom line is that game could have been worse but our boys fought back like champs to try and win.  Narch didn't get on here and start bosting that MC was the next Mount Union world beaters because they beat CNU. A few CNU fans made their views of the game clear and each other went back and forth. But then out of the blue, here comes a haymaker from Mosh.

I worked my a$$ of at CNU to become a good player just like everyone else. Their loss is my loss and I wanted badly for them to go undefeated in the Conference.  Mosh has fired more than enough shots at the Captains over the years for no reason. He talks so much about what he has learned as a Gboro player yada yada yada. But where you there my freshmen year when the Pride where laughing, goofing around, and taking TEAM PICTURES in 01 before the game. I was on 0-3 freshmen and they thought we were a joke. Sorry, 4 years later and we really found out who the joke was on. Then through all of his public-private post, 757 is loaded with talent, and so on and so on he decides to take yet another punch at MY TEAM.  Im sorry but Im not having it. If he is jealous that he was not a Captain, then say so and we will be finished but if he continues to throw jabs that he can't back up. Then I will continue to call him a scrub and like I said it hurts so much because its TRUE.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 25, 2005, 07:40:32 PM


Roll Pride, beat the Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 25, 2005, 07:42:40 PM
Come on guys...why can't we all just get aLONG....neck ;)   Seriously guys, hug, kiss, buy each other a beer...do whatever it is but can we drop this!

Congrats to Methodist on the top 5.  Rocket you are playing you butt off...keep it up bud!
Narch, it seems like I would have loved to play in the new system.  Looks like Coach Sy has finally gone away from his feeling that if he throws the ball more than 15 times he is probably going to lose.  The three yard and a cloud of dust days have finally died.
Speaking of that, is it just me or has the USASAC learned how to put points on the board this year.  What is everyone's opinion on this?  Is because a lack of defense, better offensive schemes, or better offensive players?  Just seems like until recently scores where generally in the teens now teams are regularly hitting 30 or 40.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 25, 2005, 07:55:26 PM
greensboro offense much better /  defense lost alot
ferrum offense ten times better/  defense not the same without venerable
cnu -  dont care
methodist offense better/ defense better
su offense worst / defense worst
ncwes/ young off young d -new program
au offense has  been gettting better for two yrs now/ d, dont know
maryville- dont know

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 25, 2005, 08:09:34 PM
Giggdy Giggdy Alright.  :o :o

Can't speak for the rest of the teams but in CNU's case I will say this.

CNU O/ Have not put up enough points against good teams. The points against lesser talented teams don't count in my book.

CNU D/ 600 yards against Rowan, 40 plus at HOME against Salisbury, 35 in the first half against Methodist. Not the D that I know and the rest of our fans have become to love.

The talent is there but its time for the new guys to put up or shut up.

WIN OUT CAPTAINS AND LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on October 25, 2005, 09:50:53 PM
hey boys... guess whos back!!  i think the cnu boys will be just fine and the planets will somehow magically align for a playoff bid ( i hope).  good to be back.

that cnu english dept is that bad c'mon now
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 25, 2005, 11:16:59 PM
Tell me.....does the Monarchs have a chance at a "at large" palyoff spot or a conference championship. I would have to think too hard. help me
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 26, 2005, 08:32:48 AM
abnrgr - no shot, in my opinion - there are too many 0 and 1 loss teams in the region, and the monarchs lack a "signature" win (sorry cnu fans...cnu hasn't beaten a team with a winning record this season...doesn't count as a signature win) - gotta count on the pride or ncwc AND cnu beating ferrum for a straight up aq or the 3 way tie

Quote from: cnu85 on October 25, 2005, 05:18:07 PM
What if a team plays some really tough competition, wins a few games, but has to shoot thelights out to win?
maybe i didn't spell this out enough...i suggest that only scores from games involving the tied teams count - in the scenario that mc, fc and cnu were tied, you would take the scores from the mc/cnu game, mc/fc game and cnu/fc game...the team that allowed the fewest points gets the aq - there are still some variables that are out of a team's control...if the game is played in a complete quagmire, scoring may be difficult...but to me it seems more fair than a coin flip, which is completely random
Quote from: cnu85 on October 25, 2005, 05:18:07 PM
how about a round robin contest with the same rules as Overtime? All on the same field at the same time.....not sure how it would work...but at least it would be decided on the field!!
i like the concept, but there is no way that would fly with the ncaa
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on October 26, 2005, 02:58:19 PM
Until someone else wins the conference (i mean outright) CNU is still the team to beat.  They have made the playoffs every year.  Like or not CNU has made this conference better, they made everyone step up to their level. 


ROLL PRIDE!
we may not be going but we are still a deciding factor in who does
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 26, 2005, 03:58:16 PM
whooooosh.......

what was that?

A breath of fresh air!!

Thank you GCMan!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 26, 2005, 04:56:10 PM
GCMAN I don't think anyone would argue with you on that.  For most of the year we have been discussing that exact thing.  CNU has brought this conference any notoriety that we have.  Not only has CNU raised their level of play but they have caused everyone else in the conference to raise their level to compete with CNU.  More than any other team CNU is responsible for the level of play n the USASAC.  Still doesn't mean I have to like them. ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on October 26, 2005, 08:54:40 PM
i never said i liked them
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Fightin Hawk on October 26, 2005, 09:44:04 PM
Quote from: narch on October 25, 2005, 08:42:34 AMhere is what i know about m'ville:

they rank 6th in scoring offense (21.6 ppg)
they rank 7th in yardage gained (334 ypg)
they are balanced (135 rypg, 5th - 199 pypg, 5th)
they are 6th in total defense (allow 408 ypg)
they are 8th in scoring defense (allow 36.9 ppg)

the starting rb averages 3.6 ypc, but they have a wr who has 7 td's (all in conference games) and averages 78 ypg in receptions - he's 6'1, 180...could be a difficult match up for the monarchs - he went for 182 yards and 3 td's vs. ferrum

the other thing i know is that it will be a LONG bus ride through the mountains to get to m'ville...you know that you can never underestimate the affects of that type of trip - hopefully the monarchs will leave early enough to get that out of their system before game time - mc needs to come out firing on all cylinders like they did vs. cnu

GO PRIDE (beat ferrum), GO MONARCHS!

I don't know much about Mville's offense this year, they switched OCs over the summer.  For the last couple years they have been primarily triple option oriented, but they may have spread the field more this season, using more of a spread option type offense.  The best athlete on offense, hands down, is #17, the wideout you mentioned.  He is a playmaker and a  leader as well (was a qb in HS).  They have 2 rbs that are strong and hard-nosed.  #34 is a D-1 transfer from MTSU and the other is a Marine reservist who served in Iraq.  O-line is big, but not very strong, however they have been well coached the last couple of years (former OC was a former SEC assistant) and have a 4 year starter at center.  Don't know much about the qb, other than he sounds as if he is a good athlete and leader.

Defensively, they are not very fast or athletic, but will play to the very end.  The HC is the DC and is as hard-nosed as they come.  He has toughened this team up and they will play HARD.  #98 is the "Kelvin Hutcheson" of Mville.  He is the tackle machine and is VERY tough.  Good Leader as well.  They have another weightroom stud at LB, but I haven't seen him play yet.  #40 is a good athlete.  DL has some good players that will get after you, but they lack strength and bulk.

Special Teams wise, they have an experienced punter and I think they have a new kicker this year.  The punter kicked last year.

What M'ville lacks in speed, strength and athleticism, they make up for in heart and aggressiveness (although they DO have a few great athletes).  They are well coached by a tough, no BS, very experienced HC that loves the school.  The assistants, except for a couple semi-vets, are all very young, but most of them played at the school and know the system. 

Methodist should win, but it will probably be close in the first half and maybe into the third qtr. 

I haven't seen them play this year, but this is based on what I know from last season and the program in general. 

This is more of a "players to watch for" than a breakdown of the Off. and Def. 

It will be homecoming and the crowd will be large.  If you get a chance to go, Narch, it will be a GREAT college atmosphere for D-3 football...colored leaves, yellowing bermuda grass, cool weather and great fans from a school with ALOT of tradition. Long drive from Fayetteville, but it would be worth it. 

Forgive me if I don't give anymore responses, I am a HS coach and don't have much time to post on msg boards, but I saw your questions about Mville and thought I'd chime in real quick on what I know.  I think Mville will take their lumps the next couple of years but will be tough in years to come.  The HC is a great recruiter and will be there as long as he wants to.  They have pretty decent facilities as well.   Hope this helps a little. 

Good luck to both teams on Sat.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 27, 2005, 07:54:41 AM
CNU's football schedule just came out for next year....we picked up a home & home with UMHB.  Now that's aggressive scheduling....let's just hope we can compete and perhaps win against a big dog from Texas.

GO CAPS and whoever else plays MC and FC!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 27, 2005, 08:15:54 AM
Yikes!!! I just saw next year's schedule!!!

Sept 2 - @ Rowan
Sept 9 - Mary Hardin- Baylor
Sept 16 - @Salisbury
Sept 30 - @ SU in a night game

The positive side - at least we get MC and Ferrum at home!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 27, 2005, 08:23:05 AM
fightin hawk - that's great info. - i won't be able to get to the game, but if you go, i'd really appreciate your appraisal after the game - if the m'ville defense lacks speed, it could be a LONG game for them - that is one of the things the monarchs have in abundance...roncketti, hill, mcswain, sands, mularski, howard, doleman, robinson...those guys can all motor - the monarch defense could struggle again, though - the mc dl is small (starters go 238, 248, 224) and quick...they seem to struggle against teams with big, physical o-lines - is there a webcast of the game? i know there was a christian am station that carried the mc/m'ville hoops game last year...will they be webcasting the fb game?  thanks again for your info.!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 27, 2005, 11:07:17 AM
Narch,

I like you guys...it's tough hoping you lose one more conferecen game this year......ok, maybe not so tough! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 27, 2005, 11:30:21 AM
'85 - probably not as tough as rooting FOR cnu is for me  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on October 27, 2005, 12:57:02 PM
Great Site,  DIII Rocks.  How about Ferrum College.  It is great to see them finally working the USA South Conference.  I know that the conference is a little weaker this year, but overall it is a very good conference.  Can't wait until Nov 12th.  Hopefully the Captains reign will finally be over.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 27, 2005, 01:57:32 PM
Quote from: Jamnqb10 on October 27, 2005, 12:57:02 PM
I know that the conference is a little weaker this year, but overall it is a very good conference.
i'm not sure the conference is weaker...personally i think mc, fc, and ncwc are all better than they were last year - cnu is worse defensively, butthey might be better offensively (they are scoring more ppg than they did last year, and yardage numbers are similar) - certainly su and gc are down, but i'm not looking forward to the monarchs playing them and i think au is about the same as they were last year...maybe that would be a good poll question :)

welcome to the board, and i'm with you in hoping that the captains reign will be over, and the monarchs have the title :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on October 27, 2005, 02:13:14 PM
  Thanks Narch.  And Thanks for taking out CNU last week.  Sounds like it was quite a battle.  I know for a fact that FC is very worried about GC and worried they should be.  GC throws the ball all over the place and that is FC's weak link.  (Makes me wonder what the Ricca boys could do to them)   Wesleyan should not be a problem but CNU always scares me.  Because I am so new to this board I will not talk any smack, BUT if FC gets the Bone really working, look out.  If FC gets behind early it will be a long day for the Black hats!!!
Title: ferrum getting much respect
Post by: narch on October 27, 2005, 02:20:26 PM
blackhats/allen c - you guys were looking for a little respect earlier in the year....here it is! (http://www.ncaasports.com/football/mens/polls/polls/diviii) - ferrum is ranked #2 in the south region...pretty heady stuff, especially considering opponents winning percentages:

ferrum is 6-0 vs. competition that is 13-29 (31%)
thiel is 7-0 vs. competition that is 25-27 (48%) and has a victory over another regionally ranked team (w&j)
hopkins is 7 - 0 vs. competition that is 18-41 (37%)

this shows a tremendous amount of respect for the ferrum program AND the usasac, in my opinion - i thought for sure thiel and jhu would be ranked ahead of ferrum - congrats to the panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Fightin Hawk on October 27, 2005, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: narch on October 27, 2005, 08:23:05 AM
fightin hawk - that's great info. - i won't be able to get to the game, but if you go, i'd really appreciate your appraisal after the game - if the m'ville defense lacks speed, it could be a LONG game for them - that is one of the things the monarchs have in abundance...roncketti, hill, mcswain, sands, mularski, howard, doleman, robinson...those guys can all motor - the monarch defense could struggle again, though - the mc dl is small (starters go 238, 248, 224) and quick...they seem to struggle against teams with big, physical o-lines - is there a webcast of the game? i know there was a christian am station that carried the mc/m'ville hoops game last year...will they be webcasting the fb game?  thanks again for your info.!

Narch

If you go to the Mville football website, they have a link at the bottom of the page that will allow you to listen to the game.  The announcers are kinda cheesy (and VERY biased), so be warned..lol.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 27, 2005, 10:22:15 PM
Quote from: Fightin Hawk on October 27, 2005, 08:56:08 PM
The announcers are kinda cheesy (and VERY biased), so be warned..lol.
can't be worse than the su announcers  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 27, 2005, 10:38:33 PM
This board has gotten a little quiet since me and you know who stopped fighting and since the Captains seem to have gotten a tiny tiny chink in our armour.  Sorry there (did I get it right that time Narch) is no way I am jumping ship. Imma stick with my boys until the Titanic can't float no more. With all this talk about Ferrum (not hating) and not much talk about CNU, it should really humble the Capts. Captain fans and players remember the days when everyone said nothing but bad things about us. Now we even have Gboro posters giving us praise (not that I mind). Come on Captains I think I liked it a lot more when other posters hated us because that meant that we where dominating good teams and winning important games. Lets get things going and get that swagger back. Take it one game at a time and crush the Bishops. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on October 28, 2005, 02:21:27 AM
 ??? sorry abnrgr, you guys will find yourself in a 3-way, and hope to get an at large bid because you guys beat CNU.  You guys don't play any tough opponents.  CNU biggest games are going always be non-conference and post season play teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on October 28, 2005, 07:56:55 AM
Finest
I thank CNU for helping put USA Conf on the map.  The captains have dominated for a long time.  It is especially good since they are such a new team.  It helps to be located in downtown football central.  You , SU an BC have  helped to raise the level of play of the whole state.  Thankyou, but I still hope we beat you on Nov 12th.  Good Luck!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 28, 2005, 08:17:51 AM
insideslant/d - guilford has played ferrum, greensboro and methodist...while they aren't chowan, rowan and salisbury, the 3 do have a combined 13 wins and 8 losses...but i don't recall guilford playing cnu, and i don't think guilford has a legit shot at the odac title

in case you didn't realize, abnrgr's son was a 4-year starter and all-odac performer at guilford and while mc is his usasac team, he's still a quacker ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 28, 2005, 09:17:24 AM
Hey Goose,

Have you started working on the road trip to MHB in 2007? You should arrange a charter flight. You've got time, get busy!!! Maybe I'll get my license current by then and fly down.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 28, 2005, 10:11:35 AM
Finest...don't worry we all still hate CNU ;D but we can still respect that they have been the pearl of our conference!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 28, 2005, 11:25:23 AM
The Pride will beat Methodist. Then, Finest will have to say nice things to Mosh!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on October 28, 2005, 11:30:14 AM
 Yea swish3, I agree that is some aggressive scheduling by CNU, lets hope that the head coaching staff realizes that they need help from the  Off. cooridnators from up in the box. By doing so we can remain in the top 25 all year by winning against our always toughest opponents. Go Captains!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 28, 2005, 12:27:56 PM
The offensive coordinator is on the field, his name is Matt Kelchner!!

CNU85-
   Ehhh thats a negative on the trip to UMHB in 2007. Ive got two kids now, a 2 year old and a 24 day old. Lets see, in 07, they will be 4 and 2, ya I can see my wife loving that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 28, 2005, 12:32:45 PM
goose - congrats on the 24 day old - that second kid is more like the 22nd, isn't it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 28, 2005, 04:08:01 PM
goose - you wimp!! I remember those wimpy "wife rules the house" days. Next month is 20 yrs for me...I don't wimp out any more....what's she gonna do now - find a younger guy?????In 2007 my kids will be 18 and 16....YIKES!!!!

....CNU should still put together a charter flight....I bet it would get filled! You work on the charter, I'll talk to Hooters about flight attendants!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 28, 2005, 04:30:52 PM
predictions:

su 24 - au 22 - su will rally the troops and play with some pride

cnu 38 - ncwc 13 - the capts are a little ticked off after losing to a nc school for the first time...they take it out on the bishops

gc 41 - fc 40 - this is as much wishful thinking as anything, but ferrum's weakness is pass defense and gc chunks the ball around A LOT...roberson has been making much better decisions the last few weeks and gc is a dangerous offensive team right now

mc 29 - m'ville 21 - the monarchs play a little sloppy in the first half after a long bus ride and a big win last week - they come back in the second half after trailing 14 - 7 and win going away - this game is MOST IMPORTANT for the monarchs...i hope my prediction is wrong and they come out firing on all 12 cylinders both offensively and defensively and blow m'ville out...i just don't think it will happen - this team loves the drama

go pride!  GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 29, 2005, 06:09:52 AM
Good luck today Monarchs...lets get it done!  I'll be at work all day so I won't be able to check out the webcast >:(  Hopefully it won't take us 2 quarters to start playing!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 29, 2005, 09:39:53 AM
Thanks narch. I almost forgot what it was like to have a newborn in the house, especially with my 2-year old and how self contained she is. She's so easy, you dont have to do much for her, she does it on her own and then to go back and have this needy lil baby, it was like culture shock!!  But its good, she's a good baby, I cant complain.

CNU85-Poor sap is workin on 20 years!! She's got you so wrapped or she's tired of seeing you!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Fightin Hawk on October 29, 2005, 09:40:43 AM
Quote from: narch on October 28, 2005, 04:30:52 PM

mc 29 - m'ville 21 - the monarchs play a little sloppy in the first half after a long bus ride and a big win last week - they come back in the second half after trailing 14 - 7 and win going away - this game is MOST IMPORTANT for the monarchs...i hope my prediction is wrong and they come out firing on all 12 cylinders both offensively and defensively and blow m'ville out...i just don't think it will happen - this team loves the drama


Narch,

There is an article about the Mville/MC game at www.thedailytimes.com in the sports section.  Looks like the Fighting Scots will play mostly freshmen. 

I work in Georgia now, so I won't be at the game either. 

Good luck
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 29, 2005, 09:56:43 AM
Good luck Monarchs. Rocket: 2 TD's via the air with 298 yds and run for one. I call them like I see them. Remember, HOPE is not a planning factor

Goose. I feel your pain but try a 25 year old and then a 3 year old. Thats a SHOCK

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 29, 2005, 10:54:45 AM
If the pride limits the turnovers then we have a legit shot of knocking ferrum out of that southern ranking.  Still the D is young and has to play assignment football to a T with the disc to stop the option pass...Tough to do for a young d...

Roll Pride, Win!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 29, 2005, 12:08:47 PM
abnrgr - 25 and 3.... I was going to call that a SNAFU. But I'm not sure the N part applies...definately not "normal"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 29, 2005, 12:53:48 PM
Im 26, my sister is 16 and my brother is 6. Talk about a bit of a spread!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 29, 2005, 01:05:07 PM
narch-
    I noticed its a 2 pm start in Maryville today, for those of us who cant listen to the broadcast, please give us some updates!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 29, 2005, 01:52:42 PM
Ferrum 28, GC 0, 11 minutes left second quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 29, 2005, 02:34:34 PM
MOSH
BfB just posted an ouch for you. Any GC RMC score Mr Ron B?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 29, 2005, 02:41:03 PM
I need a Maryville/Methodist score!!!
Title: Guilford 28, RMC 13 HALFTIME:
Post by: Jeremybozz on October 29, 2005, 02:45:22 PM
    Vogelbach 4 TD Passes today. 27 this year breaks a school record at GC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 29, 2005, 03:14:11 PM
Can anyone get the maryville broadcast?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 03:56:41 PM
goose - no dice on the broadcast...i had the same problem with the m'ville/mc hoops game last year...this is KILLING me
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 04:06:50 PM
nice wins for cnu and au...cougars really took it to the hornets...i thought they would be more game than that - can't hear the gc/fc webcast and can't get the mc/m'ville broadcast
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 04:14:46 PM
if anyone who wants to listen to this debacle (m'ville is winning 17-7 late in the 3rd quarter), here is how you can do it - download winamp here (http://www.blountweb.com/wbcr/audio_players.htm) then click here (http://www.blountweb.com/wbcr/) and select listen now to listen to the game - monarchs are moving the ball, and need a score badly...need a BIG 4th quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 04:22:03 PM
mc scores, down 17-14
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 29, 2005, 04:26:52 PM
Those Quackers win 39-27 on a saftey late in the game. First back to back wins in 5 years. That is sad................ but I am happy for those seniors I know. Vogelbach breaks school record I read from somebody else on the ODAC. 27 for year. He threw 4 today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 04:29:12 PM
m'ville just got a 21 yd td pass the play after a 30+ yd gain on a fake punt on 4th & 9 from their own 36...24-14 with 9:53 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on October 29, 2005, 04:34:17 PM
Did I read that score right? Averett put up 51 on Shenendoah? :o

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 29, 2005, 04:36:05 PM
yes you did, 51-19 or whatever, it was a blow out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 04:36:15 PM
m'ville d holds mc on downs and has the ball on the mc 25 after a bad punt by mc...monarchs are playing HORRIBLE football with the possibility of a ncaa berth on the line...not good
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 29, 2005, 04:36:34 PM
Narch, remember that there are 2 MC's

"Murvul" and Methodist!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 29, 2005, 04:37:53 PM
Narch,

Thanks for the updates. I just got back from CNU's 21-3 win. Bishops are tough, look good, and have a lot of players (starters) from this part of Va. They will be challengers next year for sure.

I can't get the M'ville/MC game. I'm trying your links below....it stalls out..I'll keep trying.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 04:41:29 PM
mc defense pushes m'ville back to the 41 AND m'ville throws an incomplete pass, runs the ball out of bounds and calls a timeout, keeping the clock stopped - monarchs get the ball on their 5 with 3 timeouts and 5 minutes left 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 04:44:15 PM
5 plays and the monarchs are on the m'ville 8 - used the first timeout
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 29, 2005, 04:44:57 PM
Thanks, narch!  Keep  it coming!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 29, 2005, 04:45:51 PM
While Narch provides updates...anyone notice the Salisbury score...they were blwon out by Wesley 63-19.....

how much time left Narch?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on October 29, 2005, 04:46:05 PM
FC 55 GC 0

wow
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 29, 2005, 04:48:12 PM
Ferrum is rolling this year. With that score, they might break into top 25.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 04:48:25 PM
3:07 left - mc scores...not sure who caught the pass - mc went for 2 and got it - m'ville didn't defend 2 pt conversion - 24-22 m'ville - onside kick doesn't go 10 yds - defense NEEDS to make a play
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 04:52:20 PM
northern gets a tfl on the 1st play - m'ville gains 4 on second play, mc calls to...1 left - 2:19 remaining - 3rd and long play is a loss to the 50 on a bobbled shotgun snap - m'ville will punt after running clock - punt is returned to the 16 with 1:22 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 04:55:25 PM
1st play is a completion for 8 and ob - 2nd play inc pass - 3rd play catch for 1st down and ob - mc ball on m'ville 33 - 1:05 left - mc td to doleman over the middle - :54 seconds left - wow!!!!!! - rocket is 23-37 for 380+ - 2 pt conv no good - 28-22 monarchs - m'ville no to's - larkin puts ko through endzone - m'ville has 80 yds to go with 54 seconds and no to's - 1st play is a 9 yard scramble - 2nd play first down - 3rd play spike - 19 seconds left...ball at 34 - inc pass - :14 left - 3rd and 10 - inc pass with :07 left - 4th down and 65 yds to go - mc wins!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 29, 2005, 05:04:13 PM
dang it! I was already to say "so much for the coin toss"...I guess I should now say, "the coin toss lives"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on October 29, 2005, 05:04:54 PM
Congrats Narch - hahaha...I bet after that game, I now look much younger than you!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 05:05:00 PM
gotta go carve pumpkins with the kids....un freaking believable!!!!!! - destiny????

good job fc...way to take care of business
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 29, 2005, 05:45:02 PM
I'm almost glad I didn't get chance to listen to the Monarchs game on the web. . . I would have broke every remote I have throwing them around the living room  ;D...Great win for the Monarchs...Keeping the hope alive!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 29, 2005, 06:20:08 PM
Papi and Narch
Glad for you.

Did you guys get to see Vogelbach or was it somebody else. I am not intimating a different/alternate outcome, I just wanted to know if you did how was he against your D.

Again, I just wish my kid was there with him. Brian suffered thru 4 years of hell
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 06:57:26 PM
vogelbach played the whole game against the monarchs, and he led them to a mini-comeback in the late 3rd/early 4th quarter, pulling gcq within 11 before hill finished the quackers off with a 59 yard td - he finished the day with very nice numbers (21-41, 265, 3td, 1 int) and talking to some folks who saw the game, he was very impressive
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 07:07:38 PM
game story (http://www.d3football.com/releases.php?release=7381) - still amazed....wow - HUGE day for the rocket - he has really put the monarchs on his shoulders since hill has been slowed - can you say offensive poty?

box score (http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/stats/10-29-05.txt)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on October 29, 2005, 07:12:25 PM
WoW, What a performance.  Domination on both sides of the ball.  Ferrum is for real boys, but all paths to salem go through Hampton Road.  Can't wait Captain!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 29, 2005, 08:35:49 PM
I can think of a few more places the path to Salem will lead you other than Hampton Roads and none of them are in the USASAC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 29, 2005, 08:59:30 PM
Aye Aye Papi
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 10:44:56 PM
GO BISHOPS!

someone has to derail the ferrum train for my boys to go dancing...mosh's boys let me down today :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on October 29, 2005, 11:02:46 PM
 Good game M,ville, that was a strong effort for the good of the conference and for your team.  Well Rock if I could vote, you're get minds for player of the year. Two more weeks left fellows for a 3-way tie.   CNU we looked sloppy today, the O line  is getting worse, the D today was inconsistent.  The best over all out look came from the Coaching coordinators, Head coaches have  started to listen to them.  GO CAPTAINS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 11:22:09 PM
insideslant/d - thanks for reminding me that i hadn't congratulated m'ville for a hard fought game...that might be the best 1-7 team in the country, and i don't just say it because of the way they played mc - they've only been blown out of 1 game (cnu) and they've played especially tough at home

i saw that scott swann for au played some today...congrats to him for working his way back - i'd be surprised if the au coaching staff turned to him as the starter with the way parsons has played, but i'm glad to see swann back on the field in any capacity - he's a gutty player

rocket is just 32 yards from setting the mc single season passing record - he is also closing in on the career rushing td record (although he'll probably need a playoff game to get that...he's 7 behind right now) and has moved into the top 4 in rushing yardage and remains #2 all time in passing yardage - he's had quite a career and i hope that he has enough magic left to win at least 2 more games with the monarchs (winning another 7 would be great...but that's a long shot :))
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2005, 11:47:48 PM
it looks like both cnu and ncwc have the run defenses amped up for the upcoming games against fc - cnu held williams to 29 yards on 12 carries and ncwc held cnu to 100 yards on 39 carries - now we just need monsoon conditions in rocky mount this weekend and in ferrum next weekend :) - what an impressive showing for the panthers today...they're going to be tough to beat, but the captains really want that 5th straight co-championship and the bishops want to have a 2nd straight .500 season - c'mon guys, let's make it happen - oh yeah, monarchs...gc is on the clock...tick, tock
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 30, 2005, 12:19:06 AM
The evil and vile Panthers will get smitted before it over. The Rocket must be showcase nationally so Army (West Point) knows what they lost. Beoch made punks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 30, 2005, 12:39:15 AM
Ferrum is going to roll until they actually play someone in the top 25.   Before today, Massey  (http://www.mratings.com/rate.php?lg=cf&sub=III&mid=6) ranked them 52nd in the country (by the true Massey ratings, not the bogus BCS-style ratings).  Ferrum's opponents to date:

Guilford - 155th
E&H - 192nd
Chowan - 146th D2 (of 148!)
Shenandoah - 164th
Averett - 115th
Maryville - 179th
Methodist - 75th
Greensboro - 184th

Pretty impressive to go 8-0 against that bunch.   ???

and btw
NC Wesleyan - 135th
Christopher Newport - 91st

so it's highly likely Ferrum will go 10-0 before encountering reality in the playoffs. 

Massey rates Ferrum's schedule as the 182nd most difficult  ... out of 219, and 210-219 are the NESCAC teams who don't play out of conference. 

[modified to put "Ferrum" in the last para instead of "Chowan" .. d'oh!]
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 30, 2005, 01:01:49 AM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 29, 2005, 09:39:53 AM
Thanks narch. I almost forgot what it was like to have a newborn in the house, especially with my 2-year old and how self contained she is. She's so easy, you dont have to do much for her, she does it on her own and then to go back and have this needy lil baby, it was like culture shock!!  But its good, she's a good baby, I cant complain.

Yeah, man, it's a shock. Good luck. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 30, 2005, 08:20:30 AM
fayetteville observer game story (http://www.fayettevilleobserver.com/story.php?Template=sports&Story=7231586) - nothing earth shattering, but a few quotes from coach sy
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bill McCabe on October 30, 2005, 08:24:05 AM
Ron, Who do you see Ferrum playing in the 1st round?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on October 30, 2005, 09:07:26 AM
Yep Ron You are right.  Like a said on my very first post, This USA conference is a little weak this season.  How else could FC be Dominating.  But thats OK, our conference is going to be well respected in the upcoming years.  I predict a Stagg Bowl winner from this conference within the next five years.  I hope the Black Hats are not looking past this weekend.  Davis and company should have them ready for battle on the 12th.  BTW, What kind of passing attack does CNU have?  I have not seen them play!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 30, 2005, 12:25:39 PM
Jamnqb10 - CNU is averaging 231 passing yards per game. CNU's passing game has really stepped up in the last 3 games (due to a healthy Philip Jones) passing for 397, 356 and 289 with 7 passing touchdowns over those 3 games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 30, 2005, 02:42:27 PM
Quote from: Bill McCabe on October 30, 2005, 08:24:05 AM
Ron, Who do you see Ferrum playing in the 1st round?

At this rate, whomever ends up being the #7 seed.  I do hope the committee comes to their senses and eliminates FC's unreasonably high regional ranking.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 30, 2005, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: Bill McCabe on October 30, 2005, 08:24:05 AM
Ron, Who do you see Ferrum playing in the 1st round?

Still to much football to play in the USASAC to go ahead and give FC the auto. bid


Narch, I can't believe my eyes...Coach Sy is going to the air more and more...I'm jealous ;)
Rocket is having one heck of a season...right now I don't know how he wouldn't be the poty
Title: ??? re Rocky Mount NC
Post by: TXMike on October 30, 2005, 07:57:20 PM
I will be in Rocky Mount Friday and Saturday and looking for restaraunt recommendations.   Any exceptional places in the area?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 30, 2005, 08:39:24 PM
ham's...and be sure to get the homemade potatoe chips...you won't regret it
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 30, 2005, 08:49:42 PM
I heard that Fords Colony has opened a restaurant in Rocky Mount. The Fords Colony restaurant in Williamsburg VA is amazing. Its gourmet cuisine and a little pricey ($25-$40 per entree) but well worth it. If you are looking for something nice this might be an option.

While in Rocky Mount you have to eat some Carolina BBQ. There was a place called B's BBQ near Pitt County Hospital.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 30, 2005, 09:13:23 PM
Tx Mike,

  If you are going to be in Rocky Mount Friday you should come check out the Northern Nash Rocky Mount Game...Stands will be filled.  Im guessing your going to watch NCWES play?   I think wes plays at rocky mounts stadium...Anyways, even though I live here, I really have no clue about the area or I would hook you up with that info...

Damn Panthers...

Roll PRIDE!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 30, 2005, 10:36:54 PM
Go Capts. 1 down 2 to go before we share another title.

Thats what the public kids like to do Narch. Unlike the rich kids that go to private schools, we public kids like to share the wealth.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 31, 2005, 05:48:46 AM
Why are there so many FC   bashers out there? They are looking pretty good and while they are not in the playoffs yet, I think that you (the bashers) need to at least respect the record. If it was a team that was expected to be at the top of the USASC, (FC was predicted to finish fifth) this would be more digestable for you.
I wont speak of their chances in the playoffs, and yes the USASC is not the top conference, but 8-0 is pretty good, (dont think you can do much better than that) lets see how the regular season plays out.

I know not everyone is anti FC, and am greatful to see the complimentary postings.

This ain't no western....just because they wear black, does not make them the bad guys.

Go PANTHERS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 31, 2005, 06:08:17 AM


Thats what the public kids like to do Narch. Unlike the rich kids that go to private schools, we public kids like to share the wealth.  ;D
Quote

Yeah and us private school kids spend the 10 years after graduation living off hot dogs and ramen noodles trying to pay off those student loans.  ;D

Allen C...even though there are a few I don't think there has been much FC bashng on this board.  Granted since many of us are either Monarch or Captain fans we want to see FC lose a game to put our teams back in the first place hunt.  But I think we all can respect what the Panthers have done to this point in the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 31, 2005, 08:04:50 AM
allen - papi hit it on the head...we want OUR favorite team to win, not YOUR favorite team - let's not go overboard with ferrum's 8-0 record, though...if the monarchs had played chowan instead of salisbury and had mike hill been available for the fc game, they would probably be 8-0 instead of the panthers - whichever team gets the usasac aq will get the undivided support of the conference, though

mosh - what's the nnhs record now?

finest - i'm sure the monarchs will GLADLY share the usasac title with the captains this year, particularly since the  monarchs own the tie-break vs. the capts :) - i'd prefer them not share the title with ferrum (because ferrum owns the tie-break with mc)...us private schoolers share the wealth when it's beneficial to us :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 31, 2005, 09:52:42 AM
Allen C people have little respect for FC right now because they do not have a signature win yet. I can't be mad, they are winning the games on their schedule and I respect that but I honestly don't think that they are the number 2 team in the region either. All I am going to say is that only time will tell but I am not so worried about them going undefeated like most others. CNU will be coming to town soon enough and we will return the favor for our 03 loss and possible lock for a #1 seed in the playoffs that year.  ;D  ;)   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 31, 2005, 10:28:44 AM
Allen
Nobody is "busting on" FC. I played them probably before you were born. (mid 70's). If you played against someone you have the right to talk a little trash. I just remember them when they were "mad dog mean". We literallly got into fights up at Lees-McRae with them before the game. Well once anyway. I'll pull for FC after the Monarchs have no chance. I know the staff there and they are good guys.

It's just disappoints me not to see Rocket out there nationally.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 31, 2005, 10:55:40 AM
Narch,
  Northern Nash is 5-4 for playoff possibility and 5-5 with the endowement game.  We lost one in overtime, and a few by less then a td... I think we will present a problem for some teams with matchups in the playoffs...We have alot of offensive schemes. 

Prediction, Ferrum goes und in the Usac
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 31, 2005, 12:52:51 PM
mosh - good luck to your boys in the playoffs - i'm not a huge fan of the new diluted playoff system, but it does give a lot of kids a chance to play playoff football

i hope you're wrong about ferrum  ;)

GO BISHOPS! GO CAPTAINS!
[SIZE=24PT]GO MONARCHS!!![/SIZE]
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 31, 2005, 01:48:19 PM
Allen - Any team that goes 8-0 in any division (I, II or III) deserves respect. No doubt about it. The problem is unlike Division I football where there are currently 5 teams undefeated in the top 25 [all ranked in the top 8] there are currently 11 ranked teams with undefeated records in the D3 top 25.

Although I do not know the exact stats I would venture to say that there are probably 2 to 3 times as many undefeated teams in D3 than in D1. I am not basing this on anything more that my limited observation. I am not trivializing your accomplishements but I would GUESS that its more common for a team to go undefeated due the large number of weak D3 programs out there. You can't argue with the fact that Ferrum has only beat 2 teams with winning records. All 8 opponents are a combined 20-44 and 4 of those teams have only 1 win. But again I do respect the 8-0 but it's all relative to the teams you beat.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 31, 2005, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: tcheadhunter on October 31, 2005, 01:48:19 PM
Allen - Any team that goes 8-0 in any division (I, II or III) deserves respect. No doubt about it. The problem is unlike Division I football where there are currently 5 teams undefeated in the top 25 [all ranked in the top 8] there are currently 11 ranked teams with undefeated records in the D3 top 25.

Although I do not know the exact stats I would venture to say that there are probably 2 to 3 times as many undefeated teams in D3 than in D1. I am not basing this on anything more that my limited observation. I am not trivializing your accomplishements but I would GUESS that its more common for a team to go undefeated due the large number of weak D3 programs out there. You can't argue with the fact that Ferrum has only beat 2 teams with winning records. All 8 opponents are a combined 20-44 and 4 of those teams have only 1 win. But again I do respect the 8-0 but it's all relative to the teams you beat.   
Well, could it also be due the fact there are approximately twice as many DIII football teams as there are DI football teams?  I think it is 231 to 117 (or is it 119?).  Statistically, there should be about twice as many undefeated teams in DIII and it should be twice as hard to crack the DIII Top 25!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 31, 2005, 02:32:41 PM
Exactly my point! Although an undefeated season is still something to be proud of there are many more undefeated programs in D3 and they are not all worthy of the top 25 or a regional ranking of 2. However I still have a lot of respect for the Ferrum players and coaches and I wish them continued success but I hope CNU whoops them  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 31, 2005, 02:57:25 PM
Quote from: tcheadhunter on October 31, 2005, 02:32:41 PM
I hope CNU whoops them  ;D
and ncwc does, too!  ;D
and mc beats gc and su  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 31, 2005, 04:00:06 PM
Wow Lots of responses. I have to admit I understand your wanting your team to win. I guess I am nearly the only Ferrum supporter on the board. I appreciate the feedback, and have to admit I am not taking anything for granted. I know on any given day, any team can beat another. I am just hoping for Ferrum to get to the playoffs. I dont understand how this conference sent 2 teams to the playoffs last year, but only one will go this year no matter what. Could someone enlighten me?

abnrgr- Well I am a little older that you may think, but if you played against FC back then, you saw FC in its finest football years...statistically, maybe not sportsmanship wise. ;)
From 1968-1977, FC won 4 NJCAA national titles, and was national runner up once.
I was at FC from 78-82, but never played. (was the equipment manager one year.) Just a fan now, and would love to see the Panthers get back to a winning stature.

Anyone smell an upset this week in Danville? I would not count out the Cougars in this one coming up.

I will be at the FC/ CNU game It should be a wild one.

Whats up with NCW... are they a bigger threat than I am thinking? I would have thought that GC would have been tougher against FC. CNU 21-3 over NCW. I did not get to listen to the game. Is their (NCW) defense better than GC?
What do the Battling Bishops have to offer?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 31, 2005, 04:10:04 PM
abnngr - did Lees-McRae drop football when they went to 4-year status?  I never hear anything from the Bobcats anymore except in other sports.  I believe they are now in the NCAA DII Carolinas-Virginia Conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on October 31, 2005, 04:43:14 PM
Allen
I'm with you.  I am an Old Black hat from the 80's.  I am very excited about the 8-0- record, but I am very concerned about CNU.  They have a much bigger pool of players to choose from.  Who wants to live in the mountains if you can be a day student, live at home, play at a new facility, and play football at the college level.  They are full of talent and it is always a battle.  But they play up in GOD's country this year!   BTW has anyone heard the rumor about CNU going DII in a few years?

Allen, Do you stay in touch with any of the coaching staff? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2005, 05:17:48 PM
That rumor comes up all the time but I think it's just wisful thinking.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 31, 2005, 05:34:51 PM
Pres. Trible has made it clear (on more than one occasion) that he has no intentions of moving the football program to Division II as long as he is there. He is a young guy who doesn't look like he is going any where. Trible is a Hampden Sydney alumn (rich private school guy for all of you public school haters)  ;D and he supposedly loves small school football. I would like to see the Captains win a national championship first (or at least compete in one) but the scholarship money would be nice.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 31, 2005, 05:36:51 PM
Dont guess they could go DII in the next week could they??? ;D

I saw Coach Norton at homecoming in '02, my 20 yr reunion, but have had no contact with any of them.

Glad they are playing at home. It seems that it has been disproportional as to when they played at Ferrum v Newport News. It seems the Panthers usually travel. Could that be because one year they played in the Oyster Bowl? Does anyone know if I am right. Has CNU ever travelled to FC?

Does Averett have a prayer against CNU this weekend?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2005, 05:38:16 PM
We have six years' worth of Ferrum schedules and results that you can use to check for yourself:

http://www.d3football.com/school_info.php?school=Ferrum
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 31, 2005, 05:41:44 PM
first year of CNU football they played in the Oyster Bowl
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 31, 2005, 05:44:15 PM
CNU traveled to Ferrum on November 15, 2003 and lost 19-17. Here is the link for the artivce

http://www.d3football.com/story.php?story=1323
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 31, 2005, 05:44:59 PM
that should be article. Sorry too late in the day :o :o :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 31, 2005, 05:46:57 PM
Thanks Pat,

I must have slept through the 2003 season... 3 of 4 years FC has travelled, but the caviot is that they (FC) was the home team in Hampton.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 31, 2005, 06:09:06 PM
How young could President Trible be. I went to the U.S. Capitol in 1977 or 78, and he was a US Senator then. I would think he is in his late fifties or early sixties.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 31, 2005, 06:14:05 PM
To answer my own question, he will be 59 this December.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 31, 2005, 06:46:10 PM
Hasanova
No they dropped football after playing at the NAIA level for a couple of years. I was a coach there as a matter of fact on the 93 team. We got pounded that year playing Elon and the Terriers laid the wood to us.

I left to go back to my real job and they went 6-4 the next year. I was getting ready for Homecoming in 1995 or 6 and got a flyer in the mail about the (gag) Soccer game at Homecoming. That's how I found out that football was dropped. The administration (it was rumored) said it was not worth the extra 100 students of dubious backgrounds. IE: Street kids like me. Now they are mostly more affluent students going there. I hear you have to read and write too!

If I win the lotto they will have football again at the DII level with Narch as my Public info officer, MOSH and MC55 as position coaches and I will be in the stands checking out the drunks from BC. ;) Just joking BC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 31, 2005, 06:53:34 PM
ABNRGR....oooh oooh...can I be the trainer.  I want to be able to tell some kid with broke tibia to tape it up and get back in there or a kid with one eye hanging out that he still has another one.  After the game I can treat all injuries like they do in the military...give'em a bottle of 800mg motrin and some ice! :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 31, 2005, 06:57:07 PM
Sorry Admiral
I was saving you for keeping GQ magazine off me. they are always after me to do those underwear gigs. You're my PSD ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 31, 2005, 07:24:33 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 31, 2005, 06:46:10 PM
and I will be in the stands checking out the drunks from BC. ;) 

Hey I resemble that comment, just ask CNU85!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 31, 2005, 07:48:24 PM
Allen - I think 59 is young. Youth is relative. Let's put it this way - I don't think he's retiring any time soon. He was a public servant from 1976-1989 (House and Senate).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 31, 2005, 07:58:01 PM
LLama
I know you and Skoalster will be in form........no matter what game. I was going to build a special portable toilet for Skoal so he does not have to wander
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 31, 2005, 08:06:31 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 31, 2005, 07:58:01 PM
LLama
I know you and Skoalster will be in form........no matter what game. I was going to build a special portable toilet for Skoal so he does not have to wander

Its funny you mention that. You will have to ask him about his McDaniel Tailgate/ bathroom experience at BC this year. All I got to say is thank god for cell phones, otherwise the poor boy would have been locked inside the hallowed halls til daylight. :D :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 31, 2005, 08:07:02 PM
If im coaching it will be the punters...

"Have to have the ball off in 8 seconds.. 8 seconds explinative, explinative mother @#@* /  GOOD KICK!"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 31, 2005, 08:48:42 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 31, 2005, 06:57:07 PM
Sorry Admiral
I was saving you for keeping GQ magazine off me. they are always after me to do those underwear gigs. You're my PSD ;)

Come on...come clean....I've seen that pic of you in Cosmo in nothing but your banana hammock!  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Three Sails on October 31, 2005, 08:58:09 PM
Since Llama is lurking on this board........

OK USASAC & ODAC Fans - toss up topic for debate:

Which is the strongest conference top to bottom this year?

After 8 weeks.................

USASAC - Three fairly strong teams battling it out for the conference crown in Ferrum, Methodist & CNU with two solid and improving teams in NCW & Averett.  Three teams at 1-7 overall (2 were expected to stuggle while Shenendoah has underachieved compared to preseason expectations).  

ODAC - Repeat champ B-water riding high after early loss with HS having a couple of losses and W&L having a solid year.  Four other teams appear to be struggling.  

Head to Head - USASAC leads 5-3  - however several of these wins were by top USASAC teams (Ferrum / Methodist) over E&H and Guilford.  2 of the USASAC losses were by Shenandoah to B'water & Catholic.  

Remember - we are talking strongest conference - top to bottom.  Let the debate begin!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 31, 2005, 09:03:43 PM
Three Sails - I think it's the USAC this year, but I see improved head-to-head record by the ODAC in 2006.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 31, 2005, 09:17:35 PM
Damn you Sails.  ;)We were talking along that fence that was going to bring down the wrath of PC.

You bring up a good point. Is the argument for heritage, you know the ODAC schools being around for many years and the upstart fairly new football programs in your conference. Or is just because this year the dreaded Panthers are strong? this year. Forget it I am in DC and I am flying in the AM and the escort services got my cell number....probably Papi giving it out

Your argument that the USASC is stronger this year is valid. This year. But I think as the new coaches at EH and GC get their own recruiting classes in I think the ODAC will emerge top to bottom as strong and both conferences will beat the hell out each other in the next couple of years. Methodist has always been on the fringe to start winning big.

If the BC and FC boys meet in the show I think it will be interesting.

I still pull for the Monarchs and Pride as they are from NC.

Sorry somebody like Kid will argue you into the ground with the math.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 31, 2005, 09:43:34 PM
three sails - don't forget the su loss to cua was a game they won 12-0...who knows how the ineligible player may have affected the outcome, but i doubt it would have been enough to get cua 13 pts

here is my conjecture...i think bc is better than any usasac team...by a hair - i think fc/mc/cnu are very similar to w&l and hsc...those would be pick 'em games - i think au & ncwc are better than gcq and cua and i think su, gc and m'ville are all better than rmc or ehc - overall i think there is more depth in the usasac, but both are very close - i agree with abnrgr about the new odac coaches...they could turn some of those bottom tier teams around

abnrgr - i heard that lmc has discussed getting back in the football game, and i've heard they have talked about going d3...could be pure rumor, though...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 31, 2005, 09:49:21 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 31, 2005, 06:46:10 PM
Hasanova
No they dropped football after playing at the NAIA level for a couple of years. I was a coach there as a matter of fact on the 93 team. We got pounded that year playing Elon and the Terriers laid the wood to us.

I left to go back to my real job and they went 6-4 the next year. I was getting ready for Homecoming in 1995 or 6 and got a flyer in the mail about the (gag) Soccer game at Homecoming. That's how I found out that football was dropped. The administration (it was rumored) said it was not worth the extra 100 students of dubious backgrounds. IE: Street kids like me. Now they are mostly more affluent students going there. I hear you have to read and write too!

If I win the lotto they will have football again at the DII level with Narch as my Public info officer, MOSH and MC55 as position coaches and I will be in the stands checking out the drunks from BC. ;) Just joking BC.
Thanks for the LMC football history lesson.  I knew I hadn't heard anything out of them in quite a while, but I didn't know it was that long.  When I was at GCQ (70-74), there was some talk about dropping football, but fortunately cooler heads prevailed.   I didn't play football ( I played soccer lol), but I know what you mean - homecoming should be a football game!  GCQ lost 32 in a row by the fall of '73 before beating Randolph-Macon and, as you said, got tired of losing to Carson-Newman, Furman, Wofford and Elon.  Hope you win the lottery!  I'd make a good SID too, you know!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 31, 2005, 09:54:39 PM
Thanks Narch. I will be  looking for that job starting in the AM. I have been snooping out in CO for a High School job. I am sick of DOD and FEMA and the rest of the morons "r" us.

LMC is a tough place to play in the snow. That's how we laid the wood to FC and The Tenn Vols JV team. Who as a matter of fact played the NC State high school player of the year at QB. Damn them.

However one of my dreams is my only dream. Coach at the place you played and graduated  (within 8 years) ;) I coached at Havelock High where I played and Brian played and that was the job I loved
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Three Sails on October 31, 2005, 11:24:21 PM
TCHeadhunter is correct - no way CNU moves out of d3 anytime soon.  In addition to his points - If I am not mistaken, NCAA won't allow a school to take one sport "up" - the entire athletic program has to go.  That's a major financial commitment.  Also, I believe that Title VII won't allow athletic scholarships to be offered to a football program without having a balance of scholarships offered to female sports as well.  As far as d2 is concered, there are only 2 d2 schools left in VA and both are historically minority schools in an established conference - no natural tie in for CNU there.  Only realistic option is a big jump to d1aa - but that would be decades away if ever IMHO.  CNU has no current plans to increase their student population large enough to support that jump, there is not a sufficient alumni base to support that move and not enough $ going to be devoted to the athletic program to make that a realistic possibility.  After all, ODU is looking at something like $30mil just to add football and the associated female sports needed to meet Title VII requirements.     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 31, 2005, 11:36:36 PM
Sails,
Here is a non-biased Laz Index comparison. Looks to be about even?

Old Dominion Athletic Conference   0.369    (25-30)    49.06
     
Bridgewater VA         0.546            6 1            57.80
Hampden-Sydney      0.535            6 2            59.41
Washington & Lee     0.490            5 3            56.43
Guilford                   0.325            3 5            45.64
Catholic                  0.293            2 6            46.82
Randolph-Macon       0.211            2 6            40.23
Emory & Henry         0.185            1 7            37.07


USA South Conference    0.367    (31-33)    48.99
     
Ferrum                              0.592             8 0            61.26
Methodist                          0.513             6 2            56.38
Christopher Newport            0.486             5 3            57.51
Averett                             0.423             5 3            50.90
North Carolina Wesleyan       0.311             3 5            46.26
Maryville                            0.218             1 7            41.06
Shenandoah                       0.217             2 6            39.83
Greensboro                        0.174             1 7            38.68

Of note though is that if Ferrum played at home against Bridgewater they would currently be 4.5 point favorites.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 31, 2005, 11:55:44 PM
ABNRGR, what years did you coach at Havelock?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 01, 2005, 08:21:09 AM
llama - thanks for the comparison - not sure i understand the laz index entirely, but i would add an "of note"...the last place usasac team lost by one point to the 4th place odac team (and said odac team needed some 4th quarter heroics to pull off that narrow victory) - while i think both conferences are close, i'm not sure i agree that the odac is stronger (as laz appears to think...higher numbers are better, right?)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on November 01, 2005, 08:32:17 AM
Thanks LLama
Great Info.  I think your right that USAC has the edge at this moment, But the ODAC has the history.  Also you have to take into account the fact that E&H had laid a big goose egg until last week.  Who would have ever seen that coming! That really skews the rankings you just computed.  Also the USAC has 3 recently new teams.  They really should have the weaker div.  I do emember the day when we would take care of business at E&H, BC, RMC, even Salisbury and Wesley, but I am not sure it is a slam dunk anymore.  FC now has to share the talent pool w/ CNU and SU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 01, 2005, 09:08:49 AM
Quote from: Jamnqb10 on November 01, 2005, 08:32:17 AM
Thanks LLama
Great Info.  I think your right that USAC has the edge at this moment, But the ODAC has the history.  Also you have to take into account the fact that E&H had laid a big goose egg until last week.  Who would have ever seen that coming! That really skews the rankings you just computed.  Also the USAC has 3 recently new teams.  They really should have the weaker div.  I do emember the day when we would take care of business at E&H, BC, RMC, even Salisbury and Wesley, but I am not sure it is a slam dunk anymore.  FC now has to share the talent pool w/ CNU and SU.

Well, the talent pool is getting thinner all over the Mid-Atlantic region.  I count 27 colleges and universities in NC now playing 4-year football and a few more in southern Virginia that are taking players we used to recruit.  I also hear there are a few more like Lees-McRae and Brevard that may jump back into the fray plus several others such as High Point University that are considering teams again after absences of over a half century.  Looks to me as though you either have to expand your recruiting base or settle for less talented players ... 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 01, 2005, 09:38:49 AM
I think the ODAC has the edge. What other conference has fans who can detect when their conference and alcohol are mentioned on other conference's boards? Llama didn't just lurk into the board and read the drunk BC fans comment......he sensed it!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 01, 2005, 10:14:47 AM
Narch,
You are correct, higher numbers are better. Laz takes into account winning point spread, strength of schedule, and results. As for the GC/GCQ game, remember both teams had zero wins at that point. GCQ is much better now and has won 3 of 4 so don't know that it would be an equal comapison game.

85,
Umm Beer, GOOD! Hell I had security pull me over at a tailgate earlier this year because they thought my stainless steel pull behind cooker was a 60 gallon keg of beer! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: patcummings on November 01, 2005, 10:24:41 AM
By the way, my column this week will outline the tiebreakers in the USAC if CNU/Meth/Fer end up with 1 conference loss.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 01, 2005, 10:44:08 AM
Here is a Massey rating comparison also. It is a little harder to decipher but look under ratings and a lower negative number is better. They have the USASAC ahead of the ODAC. ;)

20 USA South         8      10  12     -0.844  -1.28   0.00   0.00  0.5900

   Conference       #Tms    W   L      Rating    Power    Off    Def  Parity

21 Old Dominion AC  7     10  15    -0.852   -1.29   0.00   0.00  0.6527


Also Born Power does a rating as well: (higher is better)

School                                               Rating
BRIDGEWATER-VA.                                31.2
CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY                          13.1
EMORY & HENRY                                     6.2
GUILFORD                                            13.2
HAMPDEN-SYDNEY                                33.3
RANDOLPH-MACON                                11.6
WASHINGTON & LEE                              22.0
                                                                  Avg= 18.66


School                                               Rating
AVERETT COLLEGE                                15.6
CHRISTOPHER NEWPORT                        26.2
FERRUM COLLEGE                                 30.9
GREENBORO COLLEGE                            -1.9
MARYVILLE COLLEGE                               5.1
METHODIST COLLEGE                            19.9
SHENANDOAH COLLEGE                           2.8
WESLEYAN-NORTH CAROLINA                   7.8
                                                                     Avg= 13.30

A Ferrum / Bridgewater match-up would have BC as a 0.30 point favorite.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 01, 2005, 12:39:22 PM
llama - it's clear to me that massey is the more reliable source of the 3 that you've sited  ;D

no surprise here, but roncketti is named usasac offensive potw (http://www.usasouth.net/pow/11-01-05.htm), but congrats also to max pope for being named usasac defensive potw...4.5 tfl on the week to go with 14 total tackles (5 solo, 9 assisted)...not bad

both (and all of their teammates) will need to come to play with the same intensity they had on that last drive for an entire game this week...it's greensboro week and that means it's time to go to work on the pride - they are probably going to be extra pumped...in-state rivalry (if you can call it that...the pride has to start winning for me to call that a rivalry), chance to spoil a possible conference championship for the monarchs, coming off a complete waxing by fc...if gc doesn't play the monarchs tough this week, i'll be shocked - any team that throws the ball around 35-40 times a game scares me - the monarchs just need to play with a sense of urgency from the opening kick

GO MONARCHS!!!
go bishops!    go captains!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 01, 2005, 01:41:31 PM
Llama,

you only got pulled aside b/c security was wondering why you were downsizing the keg to 60 gal.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 01, 2005, 03:02:26 PM
And I thought it was just because they were thirsty! 8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 01, 2005, 03:04:23 PM
On the CNU moving up to D2 subject, that will NEVER happen. The travel budget would be thru the ROOF. 1-AA would be the only option in my opinion, join the CAA (assuming they dont expand anymore or make it into two divisions, if they dont have that already) would be the easiest option.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Three Sails on November 01, 2005, 06:48:36 PM
Thanks for the stats Llama - good stuff!

Don't understand that Born Power rating - what's the critical factor there?  How does Greensboro get a minus rating?  Also, don't see Methodist that far behind Ferrum and CNU after the Monarchs close loss on the road to FC and win over CNU.  Strength of schedule perhaps?  Is that why CNU (3 losses) is so close in this rating to FC with 0 losses?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 01, 2005, 06:57:00 PM
Quote from: Three Sails on November 01, 2005, 06:48:36 PM
Thanks for the stats Llama - good stuff!

Don't understand that Born Power rating - what's the critical factor there?  How does Greensboro get a minus rating?  Also, don't see Methodist that far behind Ferrum and CNU after the Monarchs close loss on the road to FC and win over CNU.  Strength of schedule perhaps?  Is that why CNU (3 losses) is so close in this rating to FC with 0 losses?

Thats right Sails. It takes into account score, sos, etc. Not sure about the negative rating but to calculate the spread of a game just subtract the two ratings and that gives you Born's prediction of who should win and by how much. These figures are updated weekly.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 01, 2005, 06:59:43 PM
Ferrum is ranked #23 on the latest coaches poll.  ::) See article below.

http://www.d3football.com/notables.php
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Three Sails on November 01, 2005, 07:28:16 PM
Pat Cummings - enjoy your regional update each week.  Thanks for putting this together.  Question about your comment regarding the 3rd tiebreaker in USAC.  Does this tiebreaker take non-conference games into consideration?  You mentioned that the only common opponents were in conference but:

CNU & Methodist both played Salisbury (both lost)
CNU & Ferrum both played Chowan (both won)  - (does a non d3 count?)
Methodist & Ferrum both played E&H (both won)
Methodist & Ferrum both played Guilford (both won)

Since there is no advantage for any of the three teams in these results - this is moot in terms of determining a tiebreaker this season.  But just wondering how this might play out if just one non-conference result above was different? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 01, 2005, 07:54:20 PM
I think that means all three need to have played the same team.  And thats a wash cause none of them played the same team amongst all three.  I still think the coin toss sucks, but what else can you have to break a tie??  Points allowed?? Then everyone would go for the blow out win and run the score up. Who knows.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 01, 2005, 08:10:22 PM
Papi
Just walked in the door this PM.
I coached at HHS 1997-2001. Wilbur Sasser was head coach. He coached me when I was the Captian of the 75 team. He coached my son too. He was feeling old then  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 01, 2005, 08:33:04 PM
ABNRGR...I played at East Carteret from 94-97 so your first year there was my Sr. year...I got hurt pretty bad in the game against ya'll that year...ya'll wooped us pretty good.  When did your son play at HHS?  I guess I can make you feel a little older to tell you that you probably played my dad when he was at East :o

Narch, you gonna make up to Gboro this weekend?  I'm hoping and praying that I can get next Saturday off to get up to MC to check out Sr. day.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 01, 2005, 08:47:27 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on November 01, 2005, 07:54:20 PM
Points allowed?? Then everyone would go for the blow out win and run the score up. Who knows.
actually, goose, i proposed this earlier - i don't think points allowed would encourage running up the score like point differential would, especially if you used only the games involving the teams who are tied...there is no way of knowing ahead of time which teams will be tied, and i've never known a defensive coach who was happy with his defense giving up points, even in a blowout game - it's not perfect, but it takes the random nature out of the coin toss scenario - if the monarchs win out then ncwc and cnu can make this a completely moot point by taking down the panthers :)

papi - contemplating a trip to g'boro...my in-laws live in graham and i might be able to convince the better half to make a visit while i go to the game...it's a long-shot, but i'm considering making the trip
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 01, 2005, 10:40:45 PM
Thats a good point narch. I dont remember reading that post, obviously I missed it, but that makes sense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 01, 2005, 10:47:00 PM
Papi
Brian played 97-1999 and went to GC 2000

Sorry. Hope it was not an OLB that did it. technique was to hit QB in face even if he gave it to the FB or pitched.

Okay.......
Now explain the MC playoff scenario/possibilites.

You guys laid the wood this year to WC for that Mullet bucket didn't you
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 01, 2005, 11:17:37 PM
ABNRGR....EC has laid the wood to everyone this year...closest game this year I think was around 30 points (amazing what a new coach will do)...There are a couple of kids on that team that I'm hoping to convince to head to Fayetteville.  Great athletes but probably a little to small for D1 or D1aa.  Of course it was an OLB...Narch you hear that...it was RGR's fault that I had that blazing 8.8 40 speed at MC. 

Narch you are a die-hard fan....willing to spend a weekend w/ the inlaws just to check out a Monarch game...Now that's team dedication! :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2005, 08:30:21 AM
papi - no offense, but when i found out you ran the option in hs i about fell out of my chair...nobody ever accused you of being a mobile qb at mc...now i know why :)

abnrgr's boy was a beast at gcq...only ng i've ever heard our coaches say was unblockable - he was a one-man wrecking crew against the monarchs

go bishops!
go captains!
GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on November 02, 2005, 09:27:10 AM
Ferrum is ranked #23 on the latest coaches poll.   

Very Sweet.  I 'll take it while I can.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2005, 01:43:55 PM
early predictions this week

m'ville 17 - su 13 - i wanted to pick the hornets here, being that this is the last home game of the year, it's sr day, etc., but after last weeks debacle, i can't - it wouldn't shock me if this score was simply flip-flopped, though

cnu 38 - au 27 - cnu can be hurt by the pass and au can throw it, but the cougar defense won't slow the captain offense enough to pull the upset

fc 41 - ncwc 35 - last week i picked gc in an upset and it backfired...in a BIG WAY, so this week i'm picking fc to win and hoping this pick backfires in any way (big or small) - this will be a tough test for the panthers - williams is a stud and he'll really test the panther defense which finally showed up last week - ncwc is more than just williams, though - they've got some balance and play solid defense - ultimately, though, fc showed last week that they are ready to play and hungry for the next step...

mc 33 - gc 24 - gc is not without talent...they just seem to find a way to beat themselves as much as other teams beat them - torey lowe is a tough matchup for any defense with his versatility and the gc defense is better than they get credit for (and better than they were last week) - the monarchs CAN'T overlook this team, because if they do, gc will win this game

go captains!
go bishops!!
GO MONARCHS!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 02, 2005, 04:52:51 PM
Narch,

M'ville over SU...SU saves conference win for next week!!

CNU over AU....keeps it going into the final week!

NCW beats FC - only because I want them to.

GC over MC - only becuase I want them to!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 02, 2005, 05:50:41 PM
Narch, how bout going down to the bottom of the hill and explain to the boys that this week they can start playing in the first quarter instead of waiting til the fourth.  Playing these comeback games might be entertaining but they are killing my blood pressure!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 02, 2005, 08:11:35 PM
Papi,

Actually, if MC can just suck the whole game, that would be ok too!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2005, 08:52:41 PM
papi - you touch on an interesting point - i don't think the monarchs have played a complete game yet this season -
- against ssu they had a great 1st half...really bad 2nd
- against gcq they allowed the quackers to make it a game late
- ehc made a push in the 2nd quarter
- ncwc controlled most of the 1st half
- au...we know what happened there
- fc...monarchs didn't get off the bus until ferrum had scored 20
-cnu...lights out in the 1st half, esp 2nd quarter...then nothing
- m'ville...see au

i'd like to see 8 solid quarters of football to end the regular season
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 02, 2005, 09:32:04 PM
85...I don't mind if MC sucks for the next 8 quarters...just as long as GC and SU suck just a little bit worse....and for the first time in my life (and probably the last) I will be cheering my butt off for the Captains.

Narch...you're right...it seems like if MC could ever put together 4 complete quarters they could really accomplish something.  Lately they kind of remind me of Tom Glavine when he was with the Braves...if he could make it through the 1st inning then he was ok!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 03, 2005, 12:54:16 AM
Papi
You Mariner you. Literally too

I have begun my prep fires for the Air Force Army game. SInce I hate West Pointers I always pull for the Falcons but this game  gives me special reason. Army did not give Rocket a chance to play so as an SAS officer once said to me "bugger the lot of them mate". This after he punched a Kiwi and then urinated on him. Ahhh the old days.......

Thanks for the compliments on Brian. He was better than I was and that's all a Dad can ask for.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 03, 2005, 09:07:01 AM
Narch...ABNRGR's comment about West Point got me thinking... which military academy is Coach Sy gonna steal his QB from next year.  I transferred to MC from USCGA and Rocket transferred from USMA...I guess he'll have to try Navy or Air Force...ABNRGR...check out to see if there is a disgruntled backups in Colorado Springs who wants come to MC next year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on November 03, 2005, 09:26:47 AM
On the subject of CNU going DII.  I think the majority here does not see it happening.   But how and why did Chowan make the leap to DII.  I would think with the deep pockets CNU has, it would be much easier than Chowan.  Can anyone clear this up for me!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 03, 2005, 10:52:42 AM
Probally the Merchant Marine Academy...Im pretty sure that is the toughest one anyway...Might be the toughest school in the nation.

Roll Pride...Destroy the Monarchs Playoff Picture..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 03, 2005, 03:47:46 PM
Not that it means much but here is my stab at the regional rankings.

South Region       QOW            Current Ranking/Previous Ranking

1. Trinity 6-0 7-0    11.5      (#9) Wonder what would have happened if they played DuPauw (cancelled due to hurricane)

2. Thiel 8-0 8-0    11.0      #16 Barely beat #14 W&J in OT

3. Hard-Sim 6-1 7-1    10.429      (#10) only loss to #5 Mary Hardin Baylor

4. MHB         5-1 6-1    10.33      (#5) only loss to unranked Howard Payne

5. Wesley 5-0 8-1     13.2      Lost to Brockport State formerly ranked #18 week 1.

6. W& J 6-1 8-1      8.857      (#14) Only loss was to #16 Thiel in OT

7. Ferrum 8-0 8-0      10.286      Not ranked, Best team beat was Methodist QOW( 9.0).

8. Brdgwtr 5-1 6-1      9.667      (#18) only loss to previously ranked McDaniel by 1.

9. JH 6-1 7-1               9.857      Previously ranked #20 week 4, only loss to unranked Ursinus

10. DePauw 5-1 6-1       9.50         only loss to previously ranked #22 Wesley

I wrestled with ranking Wesley higher but their big loss to Brockport State was huge.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 03, 2005, 04:37:44 PM
Merchant Marine Academy being the toughest in the nation???  I think you might be confused on what Merchant Marines are Mosh
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 03, 2005, 04:42:02 PM
Quote from: Jamnqb10 on November 03, 2005, 09:26:47 AM
On the subject of CNU going DII.  I think the majority here does not see it happening.   But how and why did Chowan make the leap to DII.  I would think with the deep pockets CNU has, it would be much easier than Chowan.  Can anyone clear this up for me!
Did Chowan have some accreditation issues that prompted their leaving the USA South?  That's a rumor I heard.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 03, 2005, 05:00:53 PM
I have not been online much in the last 24h, but I am not seeing alot of discussion about the CNU/AU game. Do most feel this one is in the bag for CNU? I would not bet on it yet.

AU at home, and seemingly improed since early in the season....Any thoughts?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 03, 2005, 05:10:31 PM
CNU should win but it will be pretty interesting to see how this team handles these next two road games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 03, 2005, 05:29:16 PM
Well of course I will be as big of a Cougar fan as I am a Panther fan this Sat.

Ithink AU is better than their record, but so is NCW  I am a little nervous.

Can someone explain the "karma" What affects /changes it etc.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 03, 2005, 05:30:58 PM
not much talk anout the CNU/AU game.....too busy calling Kings Point the toughest in the nation!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 03, 2005, 06:06:53 PM
I think the Karma thing is affected by if someone disagrees with your comment thewy smite you. If they agree they applaud. Many do not do either but there "smite" drones coming out at night.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUdude on November 03, 2005, 07:16:46 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest on November 03, 2005, 05:10:31 PM
CNU should win but it will be pretty interesting to see how this team handles these next two road games.

I have never seen CNU so determined. As long as they head there the day before and not the same day, it should be easy wins.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 03, 2005, 09:09:25 PM
easy wins?  I think the AU might be considered easy but not sure that you meant to make that plural ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 03, 2005, 09:26:51 PM
Send an Instant Karma to me,
Initial it with loving care



the old guys will recognize the phrase (lyrics)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 03, 2005, 09:37:38 PM
Quote from: cnu85 on November 03, 2005, 05:30:58 PM
not much talk anout the CNU/AU game.....too busy calling Kings Point the toughest in the nation!

Yea I think Mosh confused them w/ actual Marines and not guys who go to school for 4 years to learn how to ride a freighter around the ocean...them boys make dang good money though!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 03, 2005, 10:01:54 PM
Narch,

Why dont you ask Papi who he was running the option with? It sure makes things easier when that guy is in the backfield!

Papi,

Hope you make it up to senior day. Give me a ring if you are going to be able to make it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 03, 2005, 10:17:42 PM
Quote from: cnu85 on November 03, 2005, 09:26:51 PM
Send an Instant Karma to me,
Initial it with loving care



the old guys will recognize the phrase (lyrics)

YES, that would be true. But I ain't old! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 03, 2005, 10:21:13 PM
admiral,
My stepbrother played football for kings point.  I might be wrong about them having the toughest plebe cycle.  But from what I heard (because of the two years they have to do out at sea) they have a very rough first two years and the last two are in the ocean...but they do come out making a boat load of money...If you can take being out at sea for four mo you can enjoy 90 grand a year right out of school...  Anyways I know, how the army/navy/ airforce/ coast cuard thing goes.  So the only rivalry I am looking at is the Monarch Pride game..

Narch,  if you get the L you should have to take that line off the bottom of your post
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on November 04, 2005, 01:08:54 AM
I've talk to Pres. Trible at times in the past and I think his feelings on the ideal of moving up to DII, he's against it.  He's just comfortable competeting athletically at the D3 level. His focus and overall agenda is concentrated else where besides athletics.  On Chowan I think their thinking is, they could be more competive with scholarship  players at the D2 level, that's why the move is important for them.  Besides CNU has one of the best overall atheletic facilities on the east coast.  Averett Univ. ranks up there too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on November 04, 2005, 01:18:27 AM
My thinking was the same on the game between CNU - AU.  That's why I waited towards the end of the week to post my comments.  CNU is very much award of the demands of this game and the one against Ferrum, which they both present a complicated measure for the young capatins. The way the young captains close out this regular season and hope for a playoff bid, will make the young captains a much stronger force to reckon with in the future. Look out USA South
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 04, 2005, 11:22:35 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 03, 2005, 10:21:13 PM
Narch,  if you get the L you should have to take that line off the bottom of your post
mosh - even if the monarchs lose, there is still no disputing the fact the mc IS the best d3 program in the state (admittedly, that's not saying much...but it's something :)) and the monarchs will still OWN gc

papi - i heard that coach eavenson was in annapolis at navy prep scouting a 6'2", 200 lb qb who runs a 4.6 and has a rifle for an arm :)

hasanova - i don't think chowan had accreditation problems, but i think they decided it would be easier to lure kids to murfreesboro with athletic money (even though they probably aren't giving much more $$$...just calling what they used to give as need-based money an athletic scholly) - that place is a TOUGH sell, even with scholarships - athletically, they would have been better off remaining a juco

i, for one, hope cnu stays d3 forever (i just wish cnu fans would acknowledge the inherent benefits of being a public school in a private school conference, but we don't need to go there :)) - i think they've really elevated the level of play in this conference in football and even basketball and some other sports, much the same way that mc elevated the level of play in soccer, golf, tennis and baseball - most coaches are pretty proud and have a will to win...they're only going to get their brains beat in for so long before they decide that they need to get better, and i think we're seeing that in football - fc, mc and au are better than they've ever been, in large part because they want to compete with the captains and the captains have shown that it's possible to compete on a national level

go captains!
go bishops!!
GO MONARCHS!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 04, 2005, 11:48:56 PM
Narch and Papi
Good luck tommorrow. I'll be pulling for you; however, I may not be able to speak english by 1400 tommorrow. I got a couple animals for Coach Sy to look at. One is a hat bringer and his dad is a NC state resident. How bout dat.  :)Less money.

You too Mosh. Good luck

Damn the Panthers ;)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 04, 2005, 11:54:24 PM
abnrgr - i've read a couple of your posts written in beer-ese...they're interesting :o...be sure to get on here saturday evening to congratulate the monarchs and the bishops in your own special way :)!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 05, 2005, 12:52:01 AM
narch - Yes, I can see why Chowan is a tough sell and I agree, they probably would have been better off athletically to stay a JC.  The only DII conference I know in this area is the Carolinas/Virginia and they don't have football.  Who is Chowan going to play?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 05, 2005, 01:05:35 AM
hasanova, IMHO, Chowan will fill the open dates for the D3's.  They will be very beatable, if they cannot get into a conference.

I am disappointed that Chowan could not get it together in its attempts to join the USASAC.  D3 athletics is going to the conference-model.  An independent has a very tough time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on November 05, 2005, 09:34:53 AM
Good Luck Panthers!  Leave no Doubt!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 05, 2005, 10:36:37 AM
Ralph - Yes, I know.  Guilford was an independent after the old Carolinas Conference teams reorganized as the SAC8 and before joining the ODAC.  It was tough for scheduling, recruiting and to build rivalries.  I can see why small colleges just about have to be in a conference to have a viable program.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 11:14:22 AM
I agree jamnqb! Their future is in their own hands....It should be a good game. I dont have the ability to listen to the webcast, but I will be checking the message board regularly. I hope someone posts the scores.

If Ferrum and MC win, and CNU somehow loses to Averett, would this automatically give FC the conference crown? I would not bet on CNU losing, but would not bet against it either.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 01:16:24 PM
6-0 Averett 9 minutes remaining on the 1st. :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 01:24:02 PM
CNU - back to back 3 and outs. CNU is not starting strong  :o

I have looked every where and I cannot find a webcast of the Ferrum/NCW game. Does any one know if the game is being broadcast??? Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 05, 2005, 01:32:47 PM
Can someone kick a  PAT in the CNU/AU game?? 6-6 with five mins left in the first.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 01:33:11 PM
FB Kevin Kuhm scores on an 18 yd pass from Philip Jones. The CNU defense has intercepted Averett on back to back drive. 6-6 all tied up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 01:34:19 PM
We don't need no stinking extra points  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 05, 2005, 01:38:43 PM
Ferrum and NCWC are tied at 14 after one.  Neither team is doing much on defense so far. 

Short kick helps Ferrum, NCWC defense is pretty clueless and Panthers now up 21-14 with 12:38 left in the half.   Total yards so far FC 188-NCWC 151.

Ferrum defense makes a stop, takes only a few plays to score on a long pass.  9:05 left in the first half, FC is up 28-14. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 01:47:11 PM
Averett leads 9-6 after a 25 yd field goal.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 01:48:21 PM
Ron Boerger - where are you getting the stats? Is the game being broadcast?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 01:51:39 PM
 Averett leads 16-6. 14:34 left in 2nd.

Averett recovered the fumbled kickoff on the CNU 2 yd line and the Averett FB scores on the the first play but fumbles in the endzone. However Averett recovers for the TD.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 05, 2005, 01:51:51 PM
http://www.ferrum.edu/athletics/webcast.htm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 01:52:24 PM
The FC game is being broadcast. Go to either www.ferrum.edu or the USA south home page and you can connect to the game(s)
I cannot as I have Windows 98. You need a newer version.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 05, 2005, 01:57:35 PM
Terry Ford rips a pass out of a NCWC receiver's hands and takes it 50+ yards to score.  FC rolling now, up 35-14 with 6:18 left in the half. 

NCWC drives, goes for it on fourth-and-goal from the four and score.  3:14 left, FC still up 35-21. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 02:05:31 PM
16-14 Averett,

CNU first and goal on the 2 yd line after a defensive pass interference call against the Cougars. Roland Hilliard scores from the 2 and Jones to Kihn for the 2 pt conversion. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 05, 2005, 02:09:49 PM
Takes Ferrum all of four plays to score again, now 42-21 with 2:21 left in the half.  I think I know who's going to win this game   ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 02:11:39 PM
How /who scored for FC?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 05, 2005, 02:12:53 PM
Someone identified only as the Hulk on about a five-yard run. 

I'm listening to other games now, btw. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 05, 2005, 02:36:07 PM
19-14 Averett at halftime.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 02:54:39 PM
WOW, Ferrum is for real  :o. I will be the first CNU fan to say that I think we have a very tough game ahead of us. I think CNU should be very worried about the Panthers. I hate to admit it but CNU looks more and more average every weekend. It also sounds like Averett is a better program than the last couple of years.

The Captains did not convert a single 3rd down in the first half. There is one bright spot. Rolland Hilliard had 83 yards and a TD in the first half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 02:59:08 PM
22-14 Averett.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 05, 2005, 03:05:19 PM
Wow, Cougars are smoking.
They have had a shakey defense all year so anything
can happen but they are kicking the Captains around
right now.
29-14.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 05, 2005, 03:15:02 PM
29-21 6:26 Third Quarter. The track meet has started.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 03:21:15 PM
Any updates on FC/NCW?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 03:22:05 PM
56-28 Ferrum. These guys are dangerous.

32-21 Averett.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 03:24:28 PM
I asked this earlier, but received no responses. If FC wins and CNU loses, does that give FC the conference title?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 03:29:07 PM
Allen I beleive that if CNU loses and Ferrum Wins then Ferrum will win the conference, even if CNU were to win next week (not likely). Ferrum would still have the head to head over Methodist.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 03:33:48 PM
Thanks,

Thats what I thought. 

I found out last night that FC has the #1 ranked D3 rushing offense in the country! I knew they were good, but I did'nt know they were that good!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 03:37:07 PM
Sounds like they had 3 RB'd over 100 yds each. I am very impressed with what I have heard today. Looks like I will pull for Ferrum as the USA South rep in the playoffs.

32-24 Averett. CNU kicked a FG.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 03:38:09 PM
63-28 Ferrum. 3:29 left in the game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 03:39:10 PM
How much left in the CNU game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 03:40:09 PM
start of the 4th. Plenty of time for a CNU rally  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 03:41:55 PM
I am now officially a fan of the clock at Averett ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on November 05, 2005, 03:45:54 PM
Looks like Harp has the Bone working today.  Roll Panthers
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 03:47:15 PM
FC a final yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 03:48:03 PM
35-24 Averett. The lead widens. The Averett kicker has kicked 42 and 46 yd field goals.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 03:49:43 PM
63-28 Final Score. Ferrums rolls over NCWC.  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on November 05, 2005, 03:52:28 PM
How much time in the CNU/AU game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 03:53:19 PM
10 minutes. Averett has the ball.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 03:57:05 PM
CNU interception taken all the way down to the Averett 16 yd line. 1st play, Philip Jones to Nathan Davis for the 16 yd TD. CNU goes for 2 but does not convert. Time to Rally boys. Put your rally caps on!!!

Averett 35 - CNU 30. Lets go Captains!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 04:03:14 PM
CNU holds, gets the ball back at their own 25 with 6:19 to go. Let's go Captains!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 04:05:56 PM
CNU 3 and out. 10th punt of the game for the Captains. 5 minutes to go.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 04:15:45 PM
Averett has the ball. 1st down Averett with 2 minutes to go.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 04:17:28 PM
Averett kicks another FG and leads 38-30. 41 seconds to go. This game appears to be over.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 04:22:02 PM
Averett intercepts a Philip Jones pass.

GAME OVER.

Averett wins 38-30.

Congrats Ferrum on your conference championship and automatic bid to the playoffs. Represent us well!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 05, 2005, 04:26:14 PM
Congratulations Cougars. Man, that was a great game to
listen to over the web. Very wild.

Can any team from the usa south get a wild card bid
or is that out of the question?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 05, 2005, 04:27:29 PM
Out of the question.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 04:27:51 PM
I can't imagine Methodist getting in. My guess is Ferrum is the only team to go.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on November 05, 2005, 04:28:08 PM
Congrats to Ferrum!  BC will be looking forward to possibly playing and promptly ending your playoff run!  ;) ;D  


What happened to CNU and SU this year?  How the mighty have fallen!  

Again congrats to Ferrum!  I hope "we" (BC) get to play you this year... it looks like BC made the smart move in picking you all up next year!  :)  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on November 05, 2005, 04:29:44 PM
Way to go Blackhats.  One more makes it perfect.  It won't be easy.  See you in Franklin County Sat!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 05, 2005, 04:31:43 PM
Don't feel so confident Wrighthall. Ferrum looks like a beast. A lot of people have underestimated Ferrum all year (me included). I would be converned if Ferrum plays BC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 05, 2005, 04:35:20 PM
Any update from the GC/MC game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on November 05, 2005, 04:44:11 PM
tcheadhunter,

I'm actually so CONCERNED that I'm not "converned" at all.. :) If you can't read the sarcasm in my post I'm sorry but it's there... it will be interesting to see how Ferrum performs against some real opponents, just as it will be interesting to see how BC performs against a good team.   However, it's never to early to start talking trash and I'll stand by my Eagles as the playoffs approach and we get ready to knock off yet another USUC Champion!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 05:18:43 PM
Ferrum cannot worry abot playoffs yet. Its great to be in, but focus needs to remain on CNU. You can believe they will come in trying to make a statement.

10-0 is the goal...after that they can concentrate on their playoff opponent.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 05, 2005, 05:19:26 PM
congrats panthers...way to dominate...rep the usasac well - i wasn't a believer most of the season, but the panthers have really erased some of the disbelief - i'm still bitter that hill was a no-go against fc, because i believe if he plays, the monarchs win that game, but if's and but's get you nothing and fc has the crown!  win a couple of playoff games for the usasac, boys!

mc wins 45-21...no stats, but the o got it going

monarchs...take care of business next week, finish 8-2, and root for some huge upsets next week and MAYBE there is an outside shot (ok, that's extreme wishful thinking, but you gotta have hope)!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 05:28:02 PM
Did'nt the USAC have two teams in the playoffs last year? Why not this year?  Is this a strength of schedule issue?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 05, 2005, 05:42:57 PM
No, it's a strength of conference issue.  Only Methodist has as few as two losses and there aren't going to be any 2-loss teams getting pool C bids. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Three Sails on November 05, 2005, 06:10:28 PM
Congrats to Averett on their victory - the Cougars have come a LONG way in the last few years and now have a solid program.  Almost pulled an upset two years ago in Danville and got the job done today. 

And best of luck to Ferrum (after next week that is ;D).  Sounds like the Panthers have quite the offense.  For you Panther fans - did anyone see this season coming?  Overall - what's the reason for the big improvement this year?

So much for preseason predictions - Shenandoah seems to have imploded and the Captains have come back to the field.  Hopefully Ferrum can improve the USAC's record in the NCAA's. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 05, 2005, 07:26:35 PM
Last year CNU got in with two losses but only one regional loss. Two regional losses is likely to be a no-go this year, but if anyone does go from the two-loss group it would be someone like Capital from the OAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 05, 2005, 07:34:35 PM
Good to see that the cards in the conf are switching hands...Poker...football, really what is the diff?   I made it to a football game at nc wes today, too bad it was soccer....I saw the nc wes kids going to the training facility (post ferrum), and the only time i ever saw that much ice was for kegs...God, we need another win in gboro...!. 

Tough year for the Pride!
Get the last one...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 05, 2005, 10:01:45 PM
no chance the monarchs get in, especially after seeing some results from today - mc doesn't have a win like a team such as hsc got today over jhu, and hsc will be sitting home, as well - the boys gave it everything they had, but just didn't get the help they needed since they came up just short at ferrum - i'd REALLY like to see ferrum go deep...maybe win 2 games, but i'm not sure how probable that is - i'd also like cnu to beat ferrum next week so the monarchs could say they were co-champions (hey...others have done it, why not the monarchs :)) BUT the best chance for fc to win a couple of playoff games is for them to host, and they won't do that with a loss to cnu next week...i'm conflicted, but ultimately my allegiance to mc trumps my allegiance to the usasac, so...go captains! (for one last week)

game story (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/greensboro.htm) - lots of records broken by rocket today - he had a great day on the ground and set the career rushing td mark at mc with 3 today, in addition to setting a number of single season passing records - hill had his most productive day in a while with 87 yards on 12 carries - overall, nice performance, but the captains and bishops let me down today :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 05, 2005, 10:19:57 PM
Congratulations to Ferrum on the USASAC championship.  Also, a nice win today for AU - their progam has made great strides.  MC, you're having a fine season too, 8-2 would be a great finish.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 10:29:20 PM
Three sails...

I cannot say I saw this coming, but I also thought that the 5th place prediction was a little bogus. FC had a pretty solid group last year, and would have shown alot better with some luck in the OT games.

The thing that gave me hope for this season was the fact that they lost so few to graduation. I was expecting third place, and was hoping for second. This has been a great ride, and I hope that the Panthers will keep it going.

I will be at the FC/CNU game. I will be the one with no voice by the end of the first quarter.

The good news is that the Panthers only lose 9 to graduation this year. The bad news is that two of them are Mumford, and Hamoy. (RB's) Pitts is back, and I look for Ferrum to be in a good position to defend their title.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 05, 2005, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 05, 2005, 10:29:20 PM
I cannot say I saw this coming, but I also thought that the 5th place prediction was a little bogus.

Slightly more so than the Maryville-in-last prediction.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 06, 2005, 09:56:47 AM
First things first - Congrats to Ferrum....after next week, I'll pull for you guys the entire way!!

Second - congrats to Averrett - I went to the gamein Danville 2 years ago - and I thought they were a better team tha their record back then...Now, if the coaches and kids can get pumped up EVERY game, like they did against CNU - wow.

The conference is now stronger top to bottom (a previous poster said something about CNU and SU falling) - CNU has slipped, SU fell off of a cliff, and the rest of the conference has picked it up. Maybe that's what people had in mind when CNU put a team on the field!!

I'll wear blue next week, then I'll find a black hat!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 06, 2005, 10:50:24 AM
Hey 85!

Next week should be a good game. I am sure CNU will be just as pumped as Averett was yesterday. I am obviously hoping that the chance to go undefeated and the home crowd will carry the Panthers.

FC has a great offense, but the defense is still concerning me. I understand they possibly lost a linebacker yesterday with a broken rib. I hope that they do well in the playoffs, but doubt we will see them in Salem. I am just happy with where they are, and keeping my fingers crossed for a perfect finish.

Are you going to the game? If so, I will be glad to provide you with the black hat !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 06, 2005, 01:56:48 PM
Just wanted to say congrats to AU on the win against CNU.  And congrats to Ferrum for sealing up their spot in the playoffs. 

All I can say for next week is Captains find a pair of N--S and win your last freaking game. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 06, 2005, 02:11:20 PM
Here was the pre-season poll: ???


FAYETTEVILLE, NC - Christopher Newport's football team was tabbed to finish first in the 2005 USA South Preseason Football Poll released Wednesday morning.

The Captains received six first place votes for 48 points. Shenandoah followed with two first place votes and 44 points total. Methodist, Averett and Ferrum round out the top five.

NC Wesleyan was picked to finish sixth, followed by Greensboro and newcomer Maryville (TN).

The Captains and the Hornets shared the 2004 USA South championship. CNU has shared the regular season crown in its first four years of existence.

CNU kicks off the 2005 season Saturday, Sept. 3 at home as they host Rowan (NJ) with kick-off set for 1 pm.

USA South Preseason Football Poll

No. School (First Place Votes)  Total Points 
1. Christopher Newport (6)  48
2.  Shenandoah (2)  44
3. Methodist 31
4.  Averett 30
5. Ferrum 27
6. NC Wesleyan 19
7. Greensboro 15
8. Maryville (Tn) 10

Wow, no trophy awarded for accuracy here!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 06, 2005, 02:20:33 PM
Interesting in how u took the one from CNU's site and not MC's or the USA South's.

Is it basketball season yet??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 06, 2005, 03:55:30 PM
Question- NOW should Ferrum be ranked in the d3 football poll?

Opinions aside, is their space in the poll, and willt hey get the votes to be a top 25 club for that poll?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 06, 2005, 04:08:22 PM
I think Ferrum could break into the top 25. #4, #11, #24 and #25 all lost this weekend.  Ther should be a little switching around. Hobart and John Carol might fall out and Ferrum might show up. But Hobart lost to Union who has been receiving more votes. I think Union gets in with their win. Wesley also won big and they are also getting more votes than you guys. But UW eau Claire and Whitworth both lost. I predict that Ferrum comes in at #24.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 06, 2005, 04:14:01 PM
Sorry Allen C. Union and Wesley replace Hobart and John Carrol at #24 and #25. They can't get any closer. I would think that a big win over the Captains would clearly get you in. I think your strength of schedule is still hurting you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 06, 2005, 04:27:40 PM
No doubt.. Oh well maybe next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 06, 2005, 06:12:18 PM
Conrats to AU....they played very well and deserved to win.  Let's see if we can spoil Ferrum's perfect season next weekend, although the way our defense has been playing, we could very well get stomped.  It's hard to believe how far our defense has fallen since last year.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on November 06, 2005, 06:23:26 PM
 :o Yea big ups to AU on upsetting CNU, I also agree with you CNUfin.  The o line needs a big set of cohunahs, and stop walking off the field like gigani-
tic boxes rolling down hill.  It's a good thing that CNU dosen't make the playoffs this year, so now they can discover an identity.  This team could be a strong force to reckon with in 3 years to come, if the underclassmen find something to believe in.  And the offensive line play like true football players and push defenders backwards and be strong in the red zone and protect there freaking QB.
This team had more overall speed and depth than the past teams.  Now they just have to forcus on maintaining that playoff competitive edge and running the conference table next year to win the USA SOUTH out right. ;) Oh yea AU QB don't talk so much trash next time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on November 06, 2005, 06:33:18 PM
 >:( Swish it's not the Defensive line, oh! H.... they were back up inside the 20yd line 5x's Saturday, H.... :o give em a chance, they force AU to kick 3 FG's.  The past 3 games the Offensive line as allowed 7 sacks, been in the red zone and scored what only twice in the past 3 games, most of CNU scores latley have been long passes to N. Davis, B. Jones, C. Speight and big rushes set up by R. Hillard. O line get big and strong please. >:( GET A SET OF STEELS ONES)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 06, 2005, 08:31:55 PM
CNU hasn't ever been an offensive juggernaut, but our defense has been jacked up by every decent team we've played this year.  I thought we could reload instead of rebuild, but the latter has been the case.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 06, 2005, 09:36:29 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 06, 2005, 03:55:30 PM
Question- NOW should Ferrum be ranked in the d3 football poll?
i wouldn't be shocked to see fc enter at 24 or 25 - it's not just that they've won the last 2 weeks, it's the way they've dominated in games that they had to win - davis has really given those boys a dose of killer instinct - i have been conducting the "ferrum isn't that good" train all season, but i'm ready to step back and say they are a legit bottom of the top 25 team...not sure if the voters will agree, but they will in a week if fc beats cnu (and if not, they'll def. be a top 25 team if they win a playoff game or 2 :))
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 06, 2005, 09:49:35 PM
Ferrum is ranked 29th in Don Hansen's poll out today.

http://www.donhansen.com/polls/ncaaiii.php
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on November 06, 2005, 10:03:22 PM
 ??? CNU offensive at one time in the beginning was very versatile and explosive, (Kaveh Conaway, Mario Marin), the coaching staff started to get conservative playing not to lose.  Well I think your reloading statment should be in reverse, The O line should have been rebuilt and the D line reloaded, speed and power all the way across is what you have in the D line.  The O line had started to get playing time near the end of last season , enough time to build upond each week this season. But never the less rebuilding is what you have now on both sides of the ball for the future, even the coaching staff has got to take a different approach to the rebuilding of the team. 8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on November 06, 2005, 10:12:27 PM
 8)Okay now on Ferrum, if you do get in the top 25, it'll be the last spot, because you have a chance to win the conference out right.  You guys don't travel far enough out of the mountains to get power points for a top 25 spot, ;)  :o I will say you will be hard to beat in the mountains this Saturday, but we'll come anyway just to get started on a new year winning streak. And to show you guys how important it is to play and compete against top 25 power houses.  Oh! by the way, :-X Averett has invited mighty MT. Union to it's north campus next year,  :) ;D ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 06, 2005, 10:38:09 PM
Who isnt cheering for Ferrum...really?

Beat CNU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 06, 2005, 10:49:13 PM
mosh...i'm not  ;D - i want a share of the conference championship for the monarchs

not to pile on the cnu coaches, but wasn't g. jones a pretty spectacular player as a frosh?  didn't cnu use him in various formations...in the backfield, split out wide, in the slot, etc.? the last 2 years the captains have not done much with him against mc, and that was shocking to me - did he fall out of favor with the coaches? did he not work hard? was he simply overrated as a frosh?  just wondering, if anyone has any info, 'cause he seems to have slipped to an afterthought the last few years
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2005, 12:41:16 AM
Quote from: Insideslant/D on November 06, 2005, 10:12:27 PM
8)Okay now on Ferrum, if you do get in the top 25, it'll be the last spot, because you have a chance to win the conference out right. 

Hey guys, the poll was out at like 4:30 this afternoon. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 07, 2005, 12:56:13 AM
InsideSlant/D you are really  defending the D line and giving the offense a hard time.  I am mad as H--- that CNU has lost the games they have but I am going to go with Swish3 on this one. Bottom line is in the past a CNU defense would have loved to have seen 30 plus points put on the board. Bottom line is AU rushed for 200 plus yards and threw for 250 more in route to scoring 38 points. Thats by no means a dominate performance, I don't care how many field goals a team kicks. CNU has got some MAJOR PROBLEMS period, but for you to come on a message board and point fingers at the other side of the ball is absurd. The way Im looking at things, they could be saying the same thing about the other side of the ball themselves. No need to elaborate more on that situation.

The whole TEAM NEEDS TO GROW SOME. Slant D if your a player for CNU you need to shut your FREAKING mouth. If you are the parent of a player that plays defense (obviously) then I will tell you to do the same. As a former player that helped start football at CNU, I really feel for the seniors on this team.

Mosh the ? is who cheers for Gboro. Please don't start again, Narch you better get your adopted respectful son.  ;)

Captains salvage a disappointing season and beat FC. If you don't mind wrap up a conf ring for the Rocket. He is really a competitor on the field and I can respect that. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on November 07, 2005, 10:12:39 AM
Dear coach finest,

         I have always listened and agreed to what you have said in the past, but you are not around with this team day to day.   I sure as h%ll am not and will never point fingers at a person, class, or position.  You feel sorry for the seniors as do i.  But dont think for one minute that these seniors havent dropped passes, missed blocks, missed tackles, and been taken deep just like everyone else.  I wish they could have gone out in a different fashion but we cant do anything but win this coming saturday. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 07, 2005, 10:59:32 AM
Thanks Pat. I was thinking the same thing. All this speculation and commentary and the poll is already out.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 07, 2005, 02:02:48 PM
man - the captains sit on the edge of their first non-winning season and all the fans start to unravel...welcome to our world every season but this one :) - i hope that you need to learn how to deal with losing year-in, year-out - as someone with much experience in this situation, let me offer the following advice:

1.) don't publicly point fingers at individual players or coaches...rather, concentrate on the positive aspects of the season and if you must, talk about weaknesses in broad, general tones (ex. - cnu really improved the kicking game this season...they should be a force next year)
2.) change the subject...you know, suggest that we vote on all-conference or poty or coty awards...anything to avoid talking about how bad your team is
3.) find some obscure statistic that your team is the best in the conference/region/country in, and talk about how great cnu is in that area
4.) talk about how much the team will improve in spring ball and with the new stud recruits coming in
5.) don't put down other poster's from your own school...gotta keep it positive...don't want to stew over games lost for the next 9 months
6.) stop posting here and move over to d3hoops.com
7.) talk about how good your softball, baseball, tennis and golf teams are
8.) begin tabulating potential presidents cup and director's cup points
9.) invent a new statistical model to evaluate individual performance of offensive lineman and apply it toward selection of all-conference performers
10.) root for the volleyball and women's soccer teams
11.) most importantly...win your last game so that you can start a streak for next year!

ok, that last part is more self-serving than anything else (i want mc to be co-champions) because i don't think momentum can carry over from november to september, but i hope this guide is helpful...obviously it's a bit tongue-in-cheek, because truly, i love the way cnu fans in-fight and point fingers when they lose (same thing happened a few years ago when cnu basketball got average) - i wish i was doing what the ferrum fans are...talking about a potential first-round match-up...being in the in-between (happy about the season and a possible championship, but disappointed that saturday is the last game) is not that fun
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 07, 2005, 02:45:48 PM
ok...this will sound a little like i'm hating on the captains, but it's not meant that way - the cover of cnu's media guide says "drive for five" (meaning the drive for 5 consecutive usasac co-championships and ncaa tournament bids)...who would have ever thought that the "drive for five" would refer to number of wins?

man, i've only been rooting for cnu for a couple of weeks and already i'm sounding like a bitter cnu fan...how could they lose to averett and let my monarchs down :) - oh well, one more week of rooting for the team in blue, then things go back to normal
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hug on November 07, 2005, 02:54:07 PM
QuoteWho isnt cheering for Ferrum...really?

I'm not.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: pakownr97 on November 07, 2005, 03:46:05 PM
Me, neither.

Go CNWHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 07, 2005, 04:03:38 PM
Thanks for the advice Narch!! That was some funny stuff.

Let's see....hmmm....here was my football weekend

CNU loses

my other school loses...W&M...at the last second to JMU...on a FG by a guy who missed 2 others and was a punter....that FG made to win the game, was his first ever in his LIFE that he made!!!!

The Vikings win...but are still 3-5.

I'm going to 3dhoops.com and hope for a 50 pt blowout of Maryland Bible or Maine-Presque Isle
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 07, 2005, 05:30:40 PM
'85 - glad you saw the humor in that post...some people don't know how to read into those things and get their panties wadded up so tight....i added a few more that i thought of (8-10)

i hope that my teams (mc and cnu...for one more week) don't have the same letdown that i had when i saw the au/cnu score - both have a lot left to play for - the captains don't want to have their FIRST EVER non-winning season...maybe the "drive for five" refers to winning seasons?? - the monarchs want to send the seniors out in style, beat a team that they've never beat AND keep the slimmest glimmer of hope for another game alive - both teams need to come to play on saturday!

go captains!
GO MONARCHS!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 07, 2005, 05:35:49 PM
Has anyone started an investigation into what has happened to llamaguy? The current poster (an imposter, maybe?), actually makes  sense, has good points, and sounds intelligent! I like the original llamaguy who talked about orgelling!!

85,
I resemble that comment. :-[

Oe Oe Eoooooooo !

BC's better, but we still won't play CNWho. ::) Now pass the Percocet. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 07, 2005, 05:53:38 PM
here is my first team all-conference (offensive skill positions)

qb - roncketti, mc - do it all sr has tough competition from pitts, but ultimately he has more total td's and averages over 60 ypg more in total offense

rb (2) - wilson, au and mulford, fc - i wanted to put hill in here as he is second in total yardage and yards/game, but mulford led the best rushing offense in the conference (and one of the best in the country), scored more td's and had a higher ypc average...plus he played every game and hill missed the biggest game of the season - this position could change with results from this weekend

fb - hawkins, fc - i am assuming he played fb for the blackhats, 'cause i remember hamoy and mulford as outside guys - if he isn't the fb, whoever plays that position for fc gets this award - having him as a threat in the triple option is key to their success - i like the fb from cnu, too, but he doesn't carry the ball enough

wr (2) - hughley, au and jackson, m'ville - lowe from gc almost made it, but jackson and hughley are 1/2 in yards and td's and average over 5 ypc more than lowe - this position could change with results from this weekend

te - silk, fc - he can stretch the field or work as another o-lineman - great hands - 6 of 9 catches are td's and he is averaging 27.3 ypc...wow

any thoughts??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 07, 2005, 07:58:13 PM
Sailor I never said that you pointed fingers at anyone. Its obvious that insideslant/D is some how connected to the Dline and he has no right to try and call out the other side of the ball now. And your right yeah I am not with THIS team day in and day out but there is no reason why YOUR team should be average.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on November 08, 2005, 01:48:18 AM
 :o Well ! cnufinest, like I guess , I went back and reread some of your past posts, Oct. 23,24,25 and like I thought you easly get offended, you fight with Narch and Mosh as if you were still competing on the field.  What's  the problem you still getting lack of playing time or what.  ;) In one of your past posts you even said that it's time for the young CNU players to step it up.  I agree.  As for me, on you saying I'm pointing out players, maybe I should say again, ("It maybe good that CNU is not going to the playoffs this year, so now every aspect of the program will revitalize it's self"), from top to bottom.  Oh yea may I replay to another one of your remarks about players from the 757, it's going to take eastern regional, group AAA, players to get CNU deep into the playoffs. Listen I'm a coach, I call a spade a spade, if the o line in not producing then that's how I see it.  The team will be built around the young D line, J. Wood is the 2nd best LB to come out of CNU, the cornors are tight for another year. And I also feel bad for the seniors, but you know as well as I do that the future is in the hands of the Freshmen and that the O line has got to come alone if they are gonna stand a fighting chance year.  The o line is a problem that needs to be address, first on the 06 agenda.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on November 08, 2005, 01:55:39 AM
To CNU finest, we may not agree on somethings and maybe you were an offensive player.  But if we are gonna fight the emeny from Meth. we need to be on the same page or at least compromise.  I hope you didn't get offended, but if you did I can understand.  It takes time to let go and redirect that anger in another direction.  Lets upset Ferrum this week and get started on a new year.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on November 08, 2005, 10:11:08 AM
Narch i found humor in your post as well as the drive for five, it stings but i still smiled.  sorry finest were all just frustrated and i know you are too.  finest was a defensive player and an alright one at that.  completely average to tell you the truth!! haha lol.  this girl on my hall just won volleyball team mvp and congratualtions to her and #92 my roommates latest significant other is a beast freshmen on the soccer team and they are the one seed in the south region.  your right narch there still are plenty of goods things going on at cnu, but i still wish the season wasnt a learning experiencing.  oh well bc all the captains can do is get BFS for next year.
oh and finest, if you miss football that much you should come out to 6am workouts bc Dean would love to have you and you can bring back some humor... the guys this year are so boring.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on November 08, 2005, 10:11:43 AM
oh yeah and for a while i thought insideslant d was my dad haha
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: miz on November 08, 2005, 10:26:09 AM
Good grief, what the hell's going on over here.

Get it together CNU and beat Ferrum, please!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 08, 2005, 11:58:10 AM
LOL...you guys are killing me.....just 2 CNU posters with a different opinion on how to make things better next year, and everyone makes it out as though the CNU team is in a gang war - the D is in red (The bBoods) and the O is in blue (The Crips).

With the schedule CNU plays, and the conference teams getting much better, and the fact that the O and D lines graduated all but 1 last year......I expected a year that we got...I hoped for better.....If the posts go that far back, remember I posted that CNU would be 2-2 or 1-3 at the start and would be trashed by Rowan.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 08, 2005, 12:49:10 PM
Quote from: cnu85 on September 03, 2005, 09:31:08 AM
I'm glad everyone is so optimistic. I'm not, but don't have many hard facts as to why, mostly gut feel and a few facts.

Gut feel - CNU loses big to Rowan. After 4 games is 2-2. But finishes at 8-2 and a top 10-15 ranking. My reason? - O and D lines. Especially the O line - it takes awhile for these guys to mesh as a unit. With 4 new starters (rumor has it 5 new starters today) it will take a few games to get it going and Rowan is not the team you want to start off against.

Facts - a few starters will not start today. And this one hurts - Gary Freeman was called up Friday to active duty to head to New Orleans.  FRIDAY - he was called up FRIDAY!!!!!

here is your post re: the season, '85...not QUITE what you remembered...that 5-5/6-4 you thought you "expected" was actually 8-2 and a top 10-15 final ranking...you did call for a rowan thrashing, though, and you did point out the difficulties the lines would have  ;D

JUST BEAT FERRUM!

by the way, here is another of your predictions...i actually thought you could be right in the pre-season (see my post below)...what happened to mr. jones?
Quote from: cnu85 on August 27, 2005, 11:23:44 AM
POTY - George Jones - CNU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 08, 2005, 01:12:22 PM
drunken- 
    Just because we are hosting the sectional, doesnt mean our womens soccer team is the 1 seed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 08, 2005, 03:17:29 PM
You're good Narch,

Cut me some slack - it's election day and I was just spinning the story in honor of the day!!

Actually, I do remember the top 15 thing...at least now I do - it's an age thing....I had forgotten about it.

Can I make a prediction for next year (partial)....Rowan, MHB, and Salisbury is not a good way to start if you don't have your O and D line situation figured out....and...if you don't find a way to replace 3 outstanding LBs that will have graduated!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 08, 2005, 03:19:43 PM
Not sure what happened to Mr. Jones. I saw your earlier post wondering what was up. I'm clueless and don't have any inside scoop. I like the kid. He spoke a little about what it was like to be a 3.0+ student athlete at a church dinner when he was a Fr. Nice kid, quiet, polite.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on November 08, 2005, 06:31:56 PM
Quote from: miz on November 08, 2005, 10:26:09 AM
Good grief, what the hell's going on over here.

Get it together CNU and beat Ferrum, please!!!

Double that thought  please with sugar, brownies, pound cake, whatever on top?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUdude on November 08, 2005, 06:34:51 PM
Quote from: Olinemom on November 08, 2005, 06:31:56 PM
Quote from: miz on November 08, 2005, 10:26:09 AM
Good grief, what the hell's going on over here.

Get it together CNU and beat Ferrum, please!!!

Double that thought  please with sugar, brownies, pound cake, whatever on top?

Triple it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 08, 2005, 08:29:03 PM
  Well ! cnufinest, like I guess , I went back and reread some of your past posts, Oct. 23,24,25 and like I thought you easly get offended, you fight with Narch and Mosh as if you were still competing on the field.  What's  the problem you still getting lack of playing time or what.   In one of your past posts you even said that it's time for the young CNU players to step it up.  I agree.  As for me, on you saying I'm pointing out players, maybe I should say again, ("It maybe good that CNU is not going to the playoffs this year, so now every aspect of the program will revitalize it's self"), from top to bottom.  Oh yea may I replay to another one of your remarks about players from the 757, it's going to take eastern regional, group AAA, players to get CNU deep into the playoffs. Listen I'm a coach, I call a spade a spade, if the o line in not producing then that's how I see it.  The team will be built around the young D line, J. Wood is the 2nd best LB to come out of CNU, the cornors are tight for another year. And I also feel bad for the seniors, but you know as well as I do that the future is in the hands of the Freshmen and that the O line has got to come alone if they are gonna stand a fighting chance year.  The o line is a problem that needs to be address, first on the 06 agenda.

Slant D. For one I do not get easily offended.
2. Believe me getting playing time at CNU was the least of my problems, I finished my career as a highly decorated defender.
3. Considering where I came from saying it will take AAA players to get CNU deep in the playoffs would have overlooked some of the best players to have played at CNU so far.
4.Your a coach? Then call a spade what it is, CNU lost 2 games when the o line was soley to blame as some see it. But yet in both losses they helped their team score 30 and 28 points respectively, in my eyes there are more problems than just the oline.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 08, 2005, 09:28:37 PM
 ???


Beat The Bishops!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 08, 2005, 11:09:59 PM
Who out there understands the seeding system? Any thoughts on who FC will playin the playoffs, and if they will or will not host?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 08, 2005, 11:30:34 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 08, 2005, 11:09:59 PM
Who out there understands the seeding system? Any thoughts on who FC will playin the playoffs, and if they will or will not host?

Win this weekend and I'll bet you will be hosting either the Presidents or the Eagles. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 09, 2005, 12:12:20 AM
Hey Sailor I might miss football, but I NEVER SAID I MISSED THE 6AM WORKOUTS. Sorry but you guys will have to find someone else for the comic relief but yeah they were always fun times.

Go Captains beat the Panthers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 09, 2005, 12:54:00 PM
Go Pride Beat the NCWCB!

Go Knights Beat the ERW!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 09, 2005, 02:30:57 PM
mosh would look good in a skirt and with pom poms!!

Go team go!!!


LOL - it's a joke Mosh...humor....

now that there is funny, I don't care who you are!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 09, 2005, 08:44:30 PM
Your jokes match your teamates character...

Go CNU....Go to Hell....

It was a joke...Relax.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on November 09, 2005, 11:14:38 PM
Yea I agree  :) That the conference is getting more competitive, by far no doubt.  Averett started playing CNU tougher the last 3 years, Greensboro has always been a physical dog fight, and Methodist I've always respected, maybe because of the Rockett.  Finish strong CNU against Ferrum up in the mountains.  CNU finest I'll leave you alone for the reaminder of the season, so you can sool off.  You fight Mosh all by yourself without my help and have a happy holidays. :D Oh! ones last thing ??? Everybody gets up for a game against CNU, they always bring ther best agains us, I said it before, if Ferrum was 0-9. they would be playing like they are what they are today 9-0.
Title: Dreaded Panthers
Post by: abnrgr on November 10, 2005, 01:28:44 PM
ALLEC C

Nice look with that Ferrum logo and I guess I gotta say it. Being a former Bobcat it hurts but here goes.....Good job FERRUM
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 10, 2005, 10:21:29 PM
abnrgr,

Thanks...FC has had an unbelievable year, but I happened to look back at their results from last year, and was surprised at what I saw. Of the losses they had, 3 were in OT, and the point margin in the others were not ridiculous. Couple that with the fact that they lost so few to graduation, and I am somewhat surprised that they were picked to finish 5th. I would have said 3rd.

At any rate, they have one game left and maybe they can finish perfect. Weather should not be a factor, but the crowd should.

It should be a good game. 

Let's see some score predictions!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 10, 2005, 10:57:19 PM
Do I really need to say how I feel about the CNU/Ferrum game?? As a Captains fan, I dont feel to good.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 11, 2005, 12:14:38 AM
Goose
Feel good. If anyone will feel worse it will the boys if they lose. However my MOSH's advice is to "start drinking heavily". Listen to him he's premed.   :)

Narch/Papi (Mariner)
I think I got a Rocket 2 (-) here in the state of CO.  His problem however is he has a serious hitch in his delivery. His vertical game is a little weak but he's got a rifle at 30 yards. Nice.... nice fade. He was an ALL State Corner last year but they had no QB so they asked him to play QB. Gave up the corner and probably another all state season for the team. I did see him (no BS) come up on 2 occasions this year (one was a pick on him) and remove the helmet from the ball carrier. Literally. He is a hat bringing fool. I hope Caoch E can get him (you know out of state tuition is a MO FO at Methodist).

Good luck to Monarchs and Pride- so many cats ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2005, 08:20:15 AM
abnrgr - send that qb out this way

allen c - i think slotting fc at 5 in the pre-season was about right...4 would have been better...of course, hindsight is 20-20, but who envisioned cnu AND su sliding the way they have? and based on the results of the mc/fc game last year, there was little question in my mind in the pre-season that the monarchs were better than the panthers (and i'm not sure the monarchs aren't every bit as good as fc right now, especially if hill were able to give them something :)) - the thing about pre-season polls is they are exactly that pre-season - i mean, even the folks at d3football.com got some things SERIOUSLY wrong...i remember that the kickoff preview had ehc slotted a few spots ahead of the monarchs based primarily on a coaching change...how has that turned out? :) - that's why you play the season

oh yeah...go captains!
go monarchs!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2005, 10:23:52 AM
It is difficult. We tried to go 231-for-231 but it's hard to be perfect. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 11, 2005, 11:11:39 AM
ABNRGR, sounds like he would look good in green.  Narch, you may be able to answer this better than me but isn't out-of-state tuition for MC roughly the same as in-state?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2005, 11:52:54 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on November 11, 2005, 11:11:39 AM
ABNRGR, sounds like he would look good in green.  Narch, you may be able to answer this better than me but isn't out-of-state tuition for MC roughly the same as in-state?
exactly the same
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2005, 01:17:24 PM
papi/mc55ol - are you guys coming to the game?  let me know and if so, come find me at halftime...if you don't know where i'll be, send me a pm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2005, 01:40:16 PM
final regular season predictions - i went back through and looked at all the previous predictions, and i think i went 30-11 on the season and haven't missed a monarch game (for some reason i didn't make any predictions the week mc played ferrum, but i would have predicted a mc win that week)

huntingdon 31 - m'ville 17 - m'ville ends a long first season in the usasac by playing independent huntingdon, which has played EXTREMELY well this season, despite being such a young program

au 48 - chowan 21 - d2 braves take another one on the chin from a usasac team

ncwc 27 - gc 21 - pride don't have an answer for j. williams and ncwc offense, but torey lowe finds the end zone for a couple of scores

cnu 31 - fc 28 (ot) - this is not a sentimental pick...i think cnu has had the ego bruised and will come out firing trying to avoid a 5-5 season, which would be the worst in cnu football history - the captains match up well with the panthers with a big, athletic d-line and rangy lb's capable of defending the option game...let's see if the capt's have a little pride or if they roll over for the blackhats

mc 41 - su 31 - i say it every week because the margin for error with the monarchs is small, but su scares me - the names haven't changed much from last season, and the hornets crushed the monarchs last year - i do think the monarchs are significantly better than they were last season, but they will need to play their "a" game to win this week against a team that will run, run and run some more against a small defensive line - i'd like to see the rocket get to 2000 yards passing and 500 yards rushing (both attainable goals) and i'd like to see hill surpass the 1000 yard mark (he's 81 yards shy right now) - this game is a MUST-WIN...football recruits will be on campus, it's senior day, mc has never beaten su and, oh yeah, there could be a conference co-championship and POSSIBLY (i know it's a real long-shot) a ncaa playoff birth at stake...gotta get it done monarchs

[SIZE=18PT]go captains![/SIZE]
[SIZE=36PT]GO MONARCHS!!!![/SIZE]
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2005, 01:55:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2005, 10:23:52 AM
It is difficult. We tried to go 231-for-231 but it's hard to be perfect. :)
pat...i understand...i simply wanted to point out the difficulty that even the most knowledgeable d3 football minds have in ranking teams before they've taken a snap...oh, and i wanted to say "told ya", but i'm a much bigger person than that :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2005, 02:43:44 PM
Yep. We had you at 93. Massey has you now at 63. We're in the neighborhood at least.
Title: Out of state cost
Post by: abnrgr on November 11, 2005, 04:11:19 PM
Narch and Papi
I reverse myself even though I know "the Drill Instructor will beat me harder for reversing myself".  ;)

I must have been in another..... uh....  stupor last nght. It is GC-Q that is very much different in tuition for out of state not MC. I stand corrected. An honest mistake. ::)

"Now tell me PVT Joker you do love the Virgin Mary"

I hope to provide the Monarchs some relief from CO


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2005, 05:07:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2005, 02:43:44 PM
Yep. We had you at 93. Massey has you now at 63. We're in the neighborhood at least.
close enough for me  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 11, 2005, 07:13:00 PM
Narch, spoke to Byrd and we are both planning on heading that way in the morning.  I get off duty at 8am so as long as nothing major happens over night we should both be there.  I'll give you a call in the morning and give you a more definite.  What's the weather supposed to be in Fayettenam...Hopefully it'll be warmer than it has been on the Cape Fear the past few nights!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on November 11, 2005, 07:18:14 PM
GC  35  NCWC  24

Roberson goes out with a big day. 


Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 11, 2005, 07:27:04 PM
Looking forward to seeing Qtip do just that.

Roll Pride!

Go Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 12, 2005, 01:30:10 AM
Come on Captains have some Pride play the way you can and beat the Panthers. Do what no other team in CNU history has and win the last game of your season. I won't predict a score but I will predict a crashed party for the Panthers.  And Rocket what size ring do you wear, if you do your part, I have faith that the Captains will create yet another Co- Championship.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 12, 2005, 01:37:36 PM
CNU up 17-0 nearing the end of the first quarter. Rob Rod blocked another punt and forced a fumble.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 12, 2005, 01:44:31 PM
CNU 24 - Ferrum 0. 1 minute left in the 1st qtr. CNU is on fire. However I will not relax until CNU is up 40-0. Ferrum can score some points.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 12, 2005, 01:49:52 PM
Wow, I can't believe Ferrum can come back from
that deficit, we will see I guess.

Start of 2nd quarter 20-7 Averett over Chowan.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 12, 2005, 01:56:05 PM
Rob rodriguez blocks a Ferrum FG and CNU still leads 24-0. Rodriguez has blocked a punt and FG today for a total of 7 blocked kicks on the season. This kid deserves some national recognition.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 12, 2005, 01:56:29 PM
Rob Rod blocked his second kick of the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: reccespynav on November 12, 2005, 02:13:04 PM
And Ferrum fans say the Panthers are a top "what" team???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 12, 2005, 02:27:17 PM
End of the first half. CNU 24 - Ferrum goose egg. Keep it up Captains!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 12, 2005, 02:34:54 PM
Half Averett 38-14 over Chowan.

Has Methodist/Shenendoah teed it up yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 12, 2005, 03:11:43 PM
CNU 31 - Ferrum 7  :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 12, 2005, 03:27:49 PM
CNU 37 - Ferrum 7 12:15 left in 4th quarter.

Ferrum fans are already exiting the stadium. Why is Pitts on the bench? Has Ferrum already given up? Are they trying to keep Pitts healthy for the playoffs? I am not sure why Ferrum would bench Pitts and settle for co-champions of the USA South. Plus they might not get a home field playoff game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 12, 2005, 03:35:03 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 09, 2005, 08:44:30 PM
Your jokes match your teamates character...

Go CNU....Go to Hell....

It was a joke...Relax.

In my best Eddie Murphy laugh impersonation...ahh...HA ha! Thas was funny. GO CNU..GO to hell!! Ha Ha..That was funny, I get it!!

I also like the part about my teamates character.....how long have we been posting on here? Haven't figured out the 85 is the year I graduated, not my team #. I'm not on the team...we didn't have a team in 85.

And then to follow a comment about character with a go to hell comment (joke or not)...nice character Mosh!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 12, 2005, 03:37:51 PM
37-7 CNU is winning big. I didn't expect it.

Merry Christmas Narch!!!!

Now that he is a senior and his career is over...Nathan Davis is a very good player, but a hot head and too many times he runs his mouth and does stupid things that cost 15 yards 0 like just now - I would have benched him a few times over the years to get his head straight.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 12, 2005, 03:49:38 PM
CNU 44 - Ferrum 7, 2:00 left in game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 12, 2005, 03:52:23 PM
But I thought Ferrum could put up 24 points on anyone in the country?   ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 12, 2005, 03:55:17 PM
CNU 44 - Ferrum 7. Final score.

Great job Captains. I wish this CNU team had shown up a little earlier in the season. Hopefully this is an indication of what the Captains can do next season.

Good Luck Methodist. I hope you split the conference championship with Ferrum.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 12, 2005, 04:01:09 PM
Sailor now thats how I know you boys can play. GREAT JOB CAPTAINS, YOU ALL HAVE MADE THE FOUNDING 14 PROUD IN THE MIDST OF A dissapointing season.

Like I said last night Narch, if your boy Rocket can take care of his business then he can order a ring. And send your thanks to the young Capts.

44-7 is more than enough pay back for us blowing the #1 seed in the south region playoffs a few years back with a 19-17 loss at Ferrum stadium.

Ferrum fans will get it for a day or two but Monday I will be wearing a black hat.

Narch just maybe your boys might squeak into the playoffs, hey it can happen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 12, 2005, 04:11:16 PM
44-7 Final score.....man, what a frustrating year! A win at AU and I could be waiting for a coin toss. But it was not to be. Time to head over to d3hoops.com. Although, I think I'll be equally frustrated!!

Ferrum had a great regular season and will head to the playoffs. I'll cheer them on, yet I think they'll get another game similar to today or similar to CNUs first post season game against Widener.

Here's character by my "team mates" Mosh - CNU players and coaches are staying on the field and cheering Ferrum as they receive the conference champion trophy!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 12, 2005, 04:12:29 PM
Congrats Cougars,  final Averett 60-32 over Chowan.
7-3, 5-2 nice season. ;D

Next up for Averett first game next year: Mount Union  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 12, 2005, 04:41:34 PM
35-0 MC wins.......

thanks CNU!

CO CHAMPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 12, 2005, 05:23:08 PM
You are welcome narch!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 12, 2005, 05:28:56 PM
first off...thanks for the co-championship, captains - if you had just upheld your end of the bargain LAST week, i'm convinced the monarchs would have won the coin toss...i think destiny would have intervened :)

mc completely dominated on both sides of the ball, giving up just 167 total yards and gaining 453 - rocket had a big first half with 220+ passing yards and 3 tds...finished with 279 - he IS the offensive POTY and i WISH i could see him play at least one more game - hill finished with 137 yards for the first 1000 yard season in monarch history (in 9 games, no less) - defense played extremely well, but honestly, su is horrible and i'm not sure how/why...they must have lost a LOT on the o-line, because frates & lacey looked average, at best

maybe, just MAYBE something will happen that will allow the monarchs to play again, but if not...congrats, boys - those seniors have gone through a lot to get to this point, and they deserve all of the accolades they get!

GO MONARCHS!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 12, 2005, 05:44:24 PM
Narch and Papi
Blasted them.  What a season. I just wish Coach Sy and E were in the show. They deserve it.............

MOSH- Next year dude...sorry

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 12, 2005, 08:23:08 PM
CNU/Ferrum game release

http://www.ferrum.edu/athletics/Releases-0506/11-12-05.htm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 12, 2005, 08:37:46 PM
narch...nice prediction on the FC/CNU game.
Will you be toning down the green any time before the playoffs?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 12, 2005, 09:14:00 PM
Quote from: DenSLA on November 12, 2005, 08:37:46 PM
Will you be toning down the green any time before the playoffs?
umm...i'm kinda slow tonight...what do you mean?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 12, 2005, 09:27:53 PM
i'm going to say this, and i'm sure i'll get some of the ferrum boys fired up, but...i can't help but think the usasac is sending their 2nd best team to the playoffs, and not JUST because i'm a monarch fan...i just think that, with a healthy hill, the monarchs are a much more balanced team offensively than the panthers and, while the defense isn't exactly stellar, there are enough playmakers to keep the monarchs in most games - i know that mc had a lot of luck this season, pulling out wins @ averett and m'ville on final drives, but mc handled cnu (i know that was only a 7 point game, but the outcome was never really in doubt) and played ferrum to 5 points at ferrum, without mike hill, in a game that they played possibly their worst first half - it's REALLY a shame that these boys have probably played the last game of the season

the 14 seniors on this team left everything on the field, and it was good to see so many of them shine today - roncketti did his thing, eric staley scored a td, samuel alston got a pick as did jean-claude, max pope led all tacklers with 12 tackles and .5 sack, and delapp and willis kept guys off roncketti and hill allowing them to have a big day...most of the other seniors played a role on special teams, etc. - the only senior that didn't play a role today was irrington roberts, who was in jeans on the sideline...tough way to end your career, but he's been a good one for the monarchs - these guys have been through some serious adversity both on and off the field, and to see them win a co-championship is nice, but it's bittersweet because i'd like to see what they could do in the playoffs against a quality opponent, playing the way they are right now...they'd put a scare in that first round opponent, without question - i hope all of those underclassmen see how close the monarchs got this year and work THAT MUCH HARDER in the off-season to take the next step...i, for one, don't want this to be a one-and-done run at the ncaa tournament and i hope they don't either

box score (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2005%20Stats/mc1112.htm)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 12, 2005, 09:29:35 PM
Abngr,
 Toughest year I have ever seen with a program...Offensively just not enough...Too many mistakes and Defensively we had so many young kids out there...Need some kids in the ranks to step up and become leaders....I saw three of the games this year..The one positive is the Lowe kid, He had a pretty good year..Now we have to build on that.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 12, 2005, 10:53:38 PM
fayetteville observer game story (http://www.fayettevilleobserver.com/story.php?Template=sports&Story=7249974) - i heard coach sy tell the banner story on the radio post-game - rocket suggested they buy a blank banner and put it up in the locker room since football was the only mc team w/o a banner in the riddle center (the banners show conference, regional, and national titles) - the boys got to see that thing and think about putting something on it every day...it worked :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 12, 2005, 11:55:05 PM
Congratulations to Ferrum and Methodist on the 2005 CO-Championship!!  Good luck Ferrum in the playoffs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 13, 2005, 12:19:36 AM
Narch a lot can be argued about this season.  Bottom line is the Captain fans feel that if the same team that COMPLETLY DOMINATED THE PANTHERS and shut your Monarchs out in the second half would have showed up in previous conference games. CNU would have been undefeated and headed to its 5th playoff apperance. But bottom line is Ferrum got the AQ and we all will have to become Panther fans for a while.

Narch this was my point earlier when me and Mosh got into it. CNU losses to Methodist, in turn CNU gets a Mosh bashing. Then we lose to AU, Mosh pours a little more salt into an open wound. CNU clobbers a Panther team riding a high horse because they are 9-0 and we hear nothing from him.

Narch didn't I tell your boy Rocket to go ahead and get sized for that ring. ;) and the Monarchs are welcome, no one will win a out right championship until CNU does.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 13, 2005, 08:08:35 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest on November 13, 2005, 12:19:36 AM
Bottom line is the Captain fans feel that if the same team that COMPLETLY DOMINATED THE PANTHERS and shut your Monarchs out in the second half would have showed up in previous conference games. CNU would have been undefeated and headed to its 5th playoff apperance.
monarch fans feel that if mc had played as aggressively on offense in the 2nd half, the score of that game may have been 49-28...bottom line, the monarchs were flat-out better than cnu that day

Quote from: cnusfinest on November 13, 2005, 12:19:36 AM
Narch this was my point earlier when me and Mosh got into it. CNU losses to Methodist, in turn CNU gets a Mosh bashing. Then we lose to AU, Mosh pours a little more salt into an open wound. CNU clobbers a Panther team riding a high horse because they are 9-0 and we hear nothing from him.
i don't recall you congratulating mosh when gc got their lone victory (against su, no less) - gc or mc or su or au or fc or ncwc or mvc fans are not OBLIGATED to give cnu any love when they win
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 13, 2005, 02:52:51 PM
And Wesley it is for the Ferrum-ites. Good luck Saturday, represent the conference to the best of your abilities and beat Wesley.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 13, 2005, 03:14:16 PM
Ahhh, but Narch...you didn't see CNU fans on here talking about how GC sucks everytime they lost either. You missed the point finest was making....Mosh only opened his mouth when CNU lost. He said nothing to any other team that lost. He was 'picking" on CNU and deserved the comebacks he brought on himself. Comments when talking about teams in the conference..he posted a weakness and strength for each team...his CNU comment - "who cares". Then there was the "joke" Go CNU...go to hell.....  Nice. When Mosh was a player, I respected him and his comments and even said so on here. Now he has issues and mouths off way too much and is so negative it's sad.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bwana on November 13, 2005, 03:48:43 PM
Congrats to Ferrum on making the playoff field!

I hope we get to have a BC-Ferrum South region final!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 13, 2005, 03:58:59 PM
Quote from: Bwana on November 13, 2005, 03:48:43 PM
I hope we get to have a BC-Ferrum South region final!

And if wishes were fishes, pigs could fly.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 13, 2005, 04:03:32 PM
Looks like Ferrum didn't get rid of Wesley after all
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 13, 2005, 04:34:45 PM
And the winner of that game get the Mary Hardin Baylor/Trinity winner and Im sure its in Texas.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mandfense on November 13, 2005, 04:41:43 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on November 13, 2005, 04:34:45 PM
And the winner of that game get the Mary Hardin Baylor/Trinity winner and Im sure its in Texas.

On the ESPNews broadcast, Pat said that if Wesley and UMHB win, the game will be at Wesley.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 13, 2005, 04:47:03 PM
Quote from: cnu85 on November 13, 2005, 03:14:16 PM
Ahhh, but Narch...you didn't see CNU fans on here talking about how GC sucks everytime they lost either.
ahh, but '85....gc losing isn't a big deal...it happens frequently and they aren't the 4 time defending champs  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 13, 2005, 04:53:15 PM
Thanks CNU85, for some reason everytime I post something it seems to fly right over Narch's head.

What do other people think about the Ferrum, Wesley game. I thought Bwater would have been a more interesting game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 13, 2005, 04:58:00 PM
85,

  Cry me a river.  Dont really care if you ever respected me.  Dont care at all.  Possilby I could have been tainted by some of your fans that just rub me the wrong way.  And Im probally wrong for associating them for the program.  but that is just how it is.   

Anyways,
Title: Methodist co-champs
Post by: Olinemom on November 13, 2005, 04:59:44 PM
Narch--congrats on Methodist being Co-champs.  I think that the coach should bring his players up to the Stagg Bowl as it is so close to Salem.  That's what Coach Clark and the Eagles did in 2000 and they were there in 2001.  When you are at the game, you see what the best teams are doing.  You know what you are capable of and you see what they are doing.  It helps you to better prepare for the following year and make specific goals.  It's really too close not to come.  Our team did not make it last year, but Stone Station was there where we partied with both lLinfied and UMHB fans.  In fact, I had prmised the UMHB team that if they went up to Mount Union and beat them at home, I would come to Salem, cheer for them and bring them brownies  My word is good, and the kids and their parents told me that the brownies were delicious as well.  They were kind of surprised really, but hey, Virginians are known for their hospitality.  Stone Station has already made plans to be at the Stagg Bowl.  I personally can't wait.  But first we have to get through this Saturday game with W&J.  Narch, hopefully you can come to Salem as well.  We're the tailgate under the while tents with the huge sign "Stone Station" and having a grand old time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on November 13, 2005, 05:01:58 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest on November 13, 2005, 04:53:15 PM
Thanks CNU85, for some reason everytime I post something it seems to fly right over Narch's head.

What do other people think about the Ferrum, Wesley game. I thought Bwater would have been a more interesting game.
We did, too. but the NCAA had other plans so W&J is coming to town.  With our former QB as one of their coaches.  Should be interesting.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 13, 2005, 05:19:16 PM
Im shocked at Wesley hosting if they and UMHB wins. I thought and figured that game would be in Texas, its definitely a flight for someone.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 13, 2005, 06:50:28 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest on November 13, 2005, 04:53:15 PM
Thanks CNU85, for some reason everytime I post something it seems to fly right over Narch's head.
dude, i think you're the one that's got stuff flying over your head - i understand EXACTLY what you're saying, but you don't seem to understand what i'm saying...fans of other schools in this conference generally don't like cnu for a multitude of reasons...they've dominated the conference the last 4 years, they are a public school in a private school conference, a number of the fans and players talk a lot of trash, etc, etc, etc - when cnu loses, these fans find great pleasure in "rubbing salt in the wounds", as you say - it's like when the yankees lose...tons of people are coming out of the woodwork bashing the bombers...why? because they've got it all and they flaunt it - cnu is to the usasac what the yankees are to mlb...get it?  did that one fly low enough to sink in? - personally, i'd LOVE IT if more fans of other teams celebrated monarch losses...that would mean that mc had arrived and had become the team everyone was gunning for
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 13, 2005, 07:00:16 PM
olinemom - thanks, but i had nothing to do with any of the monarch's wins...i'm just a fan :) - i'm sure the coaches and players will appreciate your sentiments, though - the trip to salem is one that i've contemplated on numerous occassions...i just need to make it happen one year, but i'd prefer to go when the monarchs are playing :) - i've talked to one of our assistants about the exact thing you mention...taking the team to the game - it's tough, logistically, because mc typically finishes exams prior to the stagg bowl, making it tough to get guys together as a team
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on November 13, 2005, 07:05:27 PM
 ;) Congrats to FERRUM on being the best team in the conference, only by record.  I've seen you play and you were much more competitive in the past.  As I was walking into the game, you panthers were leaving from your pregame warm ups and I sized you guys up and right then I new I had made a bad prediction, and that was "your guys will be hard to beat up in the mountains" :D Now having had said all of that, I mention to a defensive linemens dad after the game, who was a Big 10 player and has a Super Bowl ring, "I hope you guys don't have to travel very far, so it won't have to be a long ride home ;D That is my prediction on the Wesley game with Ferrum 8) :-X A thump up to FC, you guys used to rule the conference, thats why I respect you as a competitive force. :-X My prediction for the 06 year, CNU goes 10 in the conference. By guys you contienue to fight it out with each other, while you still mature. By until 2006 season ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: captj on November 13, 2005, 07:11:40 PM
narch –

Now I understand why I like the Yankees.  Thanks for the comparison, that's quite a compliment. 

I usually don't post on this board because I'm more a CNU basketball fan than CNU football, but I think that you're just sore because Pat didn't talk about your precious private school on ESPN this afternoon, and instead decided to mention CNU.  That must have hurt.  You're right; it is good to be king.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on November 13, 2005, 07:13:32 PM
congrats to ferrum and goodluck.  slant d??? did they guy you talked to play for the steelers?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 13, 2005, 08:16:14 PM
j - no soreness toward cnu...i haven't really talked badly about cnu in some time (other than to point out the obvious flaws in the cnu english dept. when reading posts from current and former capts :)) - i was simply pointing out why SOME OTHER fans may react the way they do - i didn't see the selection show as i was outside w/ the kids (i thought i had it tivo'd, but it didn't record) so i'm  not sure what the context was, but cnu has won 4 straight titles...they deserve the recognition they get on every level - besides, the monarchs were clearly better than cnu this season, so i have no reason to be bitter

p.s. - i'm a huge yankees fan, too, so i can understand what cnu fans feel like when they lose...i simply like to point out that there are AT LEAST 26 reasons to like the yanks ;) - maybe finest could adapt a similar approach, rather than threatening to beat those who talk a little smack about cnu up
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU Fan on November 13, 2005, 08:42:45 PM
First, let me say way to go CNU Captains. You could have went into Ferrum and just let them roll over you.  CNU still has never had a losing season.  Unlike the team that was picked to finish second in the USA South.
 
CNU85, you stated the following:
Quote from: cnu85 on November 12, 2005, 03:37:51 PM
Now that he is a senior and his career is over...Nathan Davis is a very good player, but a hot head and too many times he runs his mouth and does stupid things that cost 15 yards 0 like just now - I would have benched him a few times over the years to get his head straight.

CNU85, I will tell you that the coaches did sit Nathan Davis a few times during his years at CNU because of his hot temper.  His fiery attitude sometimes helped the Captains (especially when they were sleep walking through the Washington and Jefferson game last year), and sometimes it hurt them (In the 15 yarders he got).   He was the first big time WR recruit CNU had and the coaches have always used their best players.  Even though he was punished for his hot temper on the field, he was always one of the hardest workers both on and off the field.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 13, 2005, 09:38:32 PM
You Captains you
Stop gloating or you will explode :)

I understand the happiness........anytime you beat a Panther. Panthers and Wolverines oh my.....

In the 70s they were in the same conference as JUCO powerhouses......with the Bobcats
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 13, 2005, 10:24:23 PM
Well, I have just returned from a nearly 500 mile ride to see the once unbeaten Panthers take on the Captains. First I want to say congratulation to CNU as they played a great game, and soundly thrashed Ferrum. The grounds crew at FC is very appreciative to the Panther team as they did a great job of fertilizing the field during what I will always refer to as the great debacle.

I became worried before the FC chaplain gave the invocation. Ferrum, after the Senior Day ceremony, sort of seemed lackluster and emotionless. Then I hear this chant coming from the CNU team.  I have no idea what it was, but I knew this was a team flying high, and looking to kick the panthers in the hind parts.

After the coin toss, which was the highlight for Ferrum, Things just spiraled out of control. It boiled down to 3 simple things.

1.FC has virtually no pass defense. This is no surprise to anyone, as all you have to do is look at the seasons stats.

2. Any team with any ability at all will exploit this, and CNU did all day. I mean when the FC defensive back was setting up 8 yds off of the receiver, and would backpeddal before the ball was snapped, then there is a lot of room for gaining passing yds. This was the case much of the time with FC's  # 3, and CNU's # 11

3. Ferrum has never had to come from so far behind, and decided to continue to run the ball.  24-0, and here we are running and running out the clock for CNU >:(  (No passing offense either)

Couple these with about 9 million yards in penalties for Ferrum, and the 99.9% 3rd down conversion rate to 1st down of CNU, and its a wonder they they did not stop the game early for they mercy of the poor Ferrum Faithful.

I will close by saying CNU is a gifted team, and was a class act with the sportsmanship they showed.

So what was that chant anyway?

I have not read any postings yet...I am sure there are many directed at me, and I will edit my logo caption next.

I hope that FC is able to represent the USASAC well, but I think we may be turning our attention to basketball...maybe baseball real soon.

Go Panthers! 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 13, 2005, 10:58:09 PM
Quote
dude, i think you're the one that's got stuff flying over your head - i understand EXACTLY what you're saying, but you don't seem to understand what i'm saying...fans of other schools in this conference generally don't like cnu for a multitude of reasons...they've dominated the conference the last 4 years, they are a public school in a private school conference, a number of the fans and players talk a lot of trash, etc, etc, etc - when cnu loses, these fans find great pleasure in "rubbing salt in the wounds", as you say - it's like when the yankees lose...tons of people are coming out of the woodwork bashing the bombers...why? because they've got it all and they flaunt it - cnu is to the usasac what the yankees are to mlb...get it?  did that one fly low enough to sink in? - personally, i'd LOVE IT if more fans of other teams celebrated monarch losses...that would mean that mc had arrived and had become the team everyone was gunning for
Quote

Dude, nothing flew over my head period. Trash talk is trash talk and I can accept that from people and teams that have the right to do so. But in Mosh's case his play as well as the play of his team gives him no right to say anything about CNU in MY book. When you open your mouth about another team you leave yourself open for the comebacks and obviously your little friend couldn't handle them.

I would like to ask a ? Narch. What conference should CNU go to since this is a PRIVATE school conference. Also I don't read the basketball, baseball, etc. etc. boards much but I dont recall teams complaining about CNU in other sports besides football. I also don't recall teams crying about playing the public school Captains in the playoffs either.

Narch since you have been doing a wonderful job of quoting some of my post in the past. Maybe you can go back and find the one where I said that I have also realized why I hated some of the good teams in my conference when I was in high school. Everyone hates the team on top and I loved being hated when I played at CNU. Matter of fact, that was one of my sources of motivation while working out during the off season and it payed off.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on November 14, 2005, 08:46:16 AM
Very Good CNU, I knew we would have problems with the Pass.   Monarchs, Your welcome.  A Co-Champion is better than NO-Champion, and it's very nice to see colors other than Blue and White lift that Trophy.   CNU, a better first half of the season, and it could have been you all over again.  The panthers certainly exposed themselves sat, and i'm not sure what happens next week.  But I can promise you, if we do not put some pressure on the QB, it well be ugly. 

Now as far as who is the best team representing the USAC.  Get real!  What else can we do!  9-1 speeks for itself.  And unlike DI, this is not a popularity contest.  This div champ is determined by wins and losses.    Ferrum beat MC outright, and all others.(except CNU) Sorry your best players were not on the field, or such and such had a bad game, but oh-well that's football!  Thanks for playing!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2005, 08:48:32 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest on November 13, 2005, 10:58:09 PMI would like to ask a ? Narch. What conference should CNU go to since this is a PRIVATE school conference. Also I don't read the basketball, baseball, etc. etc. boards much but I dont recall teams complaining about CNU in other sports besides football. I also don't recall teams crying about playing the public school Captains in the playoffs either.
personally, i don't think the captains should leave the usasac but, if they did, joining a re-structured cac would make the most sense in my mind - the cac could invite frostburg, wesley, apprentice and cnu to join, then convince cua to join for all sports (instead of all except football, as they are now) and convince gallaudet to make a committment to KEEPING football and you'd have 7 football playing members OR maybe the cac could leave apprentice out of the mix and convince a school like mary wash and/or marymount/goucher/york to add football

to end this subject, i got involved only because i thought you were being INCREDIBLY immature...let me remind everyone of why i even got involved in the first place
Quote from: cnusfinest on October 22, 2005, 11:57:58 PM
Mosh thats really funny considering you would get mashed in a fist fight with me. :D Really do you think I would waste my time with a pathetic individual like yourself. I wouldn't allow you to come to VA and get pimped smacked back to NC just like your football team did every year. "If you got a problem get at me and we will settle this" he actually said "if you have a problem, get up with me and we will settle this" after mentioning how he had some conversations with former players from other schools since he graduated HA HA. The fact that you were a sorry football player on a sorry football team must have really hurt. HA HA I guess I could wear my championship rings in the fight, punch you in the face a few times and put Dixie/USA South champs across your forehead. Then you could really get a taste of being a Dixie/USA South champ.
mosh never mentioned ANYTHING about a fist fight and i felt compelled to step in and let you know how childish, immature and ignorant i thought you were being...you can call that trash talk if you want, but to me, it has no business on this board - if, as you say, you "love being hated", you would respond in a manner that was more diplomatic and intelligent...you know, something like "i've got 4 rings...how many do you have?" - it would have been more effective and i would have NEVER gotten involved in the whole thing
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2005, 08:57:51 AM
jamnqb - you're right, injuries are part of football and ferrum DID beat mc head-to-head, but i personally think the monarchs would be a better representative for the usasac in the playoffs than ferrum, in part because i'm an mc fan, but also in part because i think they are better than fc when healthy (which they currently are) - mc is much more balanced offensively and a LITTLE better defensively (and i acknowledge that they are just a little better defensively) - if a team like wesley gets up big (a distinct possibility because of the way they throw the ball), ferrum can't score through the air as effectively as mc, and if that same team happens to be big and athletic enough to slow down the option...well, you could have another 44-7 outcome, honestly - the monarchs passed and rushed for over 2000 yards this season...ask any coach, a balanced offense is more difficult to defend - don't get too caught up in 9-1...i GUARANTEE if the monarchs take ssu off the schedule and put chowan on the schedule, they would have finished 9-1 as well - difference is, the monarchs didn't get beat 44-7, at home, against the 4th place team in the conference :)

enough of that...time to throw my green hat away (for the football season, anyway) and don my blackhat - i hope the panthers prove me wrong and get the option game rolling in dover and take home a victory for the usasac!

GO PANTHERS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on November 14, 2005, 09:17:21 AM
"the monarchs didn't get beat 44-7, at home, against the 4th place team in the conference"

Stranger things have happened in this league.  How about E&H going 1-9.  You are so right, a balanced offensive unit certainly will help you in the playoffs if you get down 44-7.   But you got to get there first.   Go Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2005, 09:39:06 AM
the only thing strange about ehc going 1-9 is that they got 1 win...they weren't a good football team this year, and truthfully, i didn't expect them to be very good PRIOR to the season (although i thought they would win 3-4 games) - they lost an absolute stud/workhorse rb and brought in a new coaching staff - i think that montgomery will eventually do some things at ehc, but so many people acted like he was going to automatically turn things around...c'mon...it's not like ehc was POORLY coached for the last few decades and montgomery was replacing some scrub...oh, and ehc is in the odac, not the usasac :)

wesley is legit, though - they are balanced offensively running for around 130 per game and throwing for around 280 per game - they are tough against the run, allowing under 90 yards per game and just 2.2 yards per carry, they are really tough at home and they've played a pretty tough schedule, beating a 7-2 depauw and 7-3 averett on the road, and handling 7-3 salisbury and 6-4 frostburg with ease...they do have a similar loss to ferrum, though...a 47-0 blanking at b'port - i understand that game was played in a quagmire, but it's interesting to see and should give ferrum fans some hope
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on November 14, 2005, 09:52:29 AM
That Ferrum/Wesley matchup goes back a long way.  I played them when they were still JUCO.  It's not a fun place to play.  I think after this weekend hope is about all we have.  Lets HOPE that Wesley lays down like ferrum did last week.  NOT LIKELY.   If we are in the game at the start of the 4th.  That means the bone is working and we have a great chance.  If wesley gets up on us by more that 14 then it will likely be a long ride home. 

Regardless of the outcome, let me make one thing perfectly clear.  We deserve to be there!

Thanks Narc for all your insight throughout this season. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 14, 2005, 12:21:38 PM
Finest,
 
   I know when I walked across the field my senior year that a few of your teamates (who talked trash on here never stepped on the field.)  Im not sure if you were one of them...The way you talk though its very possible that you could have been a  backup te (nothing wrong with that buddy, Football isnt for everyone).  Anyways moving on from football, I say your personality dictates the outcome of your life.  Probally going to have some trouble in the redzone...Just like Narch compared the capts to the yankees, im going to compare you to the Great T.0.  Of course without the athletic talent.   

GO PANTHERS! 
Represent the conf well !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2005, 02:10:14 PM
now that the regular season is over, i'm going to try this again - starting with offensive all-conference performers (defensive team takes a bit more research) - naming 1st and 2nd team at each position

qb1 - roncketti, mc - offensive poty
qb2 - pitts, fc

rb1 - wilson, au; mullford, fc
rb2 - hill, mc; hilliard, cnu

hilliard over j. williams based on conference only stats - 2 coaches didn't see williams play this season, so they have little to base selecting him over hilliard on

fb1 - hawkins, fc
fb2 - frates, su

frates will probably get 1st team as a nod to his career, but hawkins put up better numbers in an offense that was infinitely better than the su offense

wr1 - hughley, au; jackson, mvc
wr2 - lowe, gc - freshman oty; davis, cnu

sands, mc is a possibility, especially if they name 3 wr's to the second team (see below) - the coaches may "make up" a position for lowe since he lined up in so many different positions this past year

te1 - silk
te2 - who knows

couldn't find anyone listed as a te who deserved recognition...maybe the 2nd team will have 3 wr's

ol1 - 1 monarch, 2 panthers, 1 cougar, 1 other
ol2 - 1 monarch, 1 panther, 1 cougar, 2 others

despite the fact that cnusfinest is less than impressed with the monarch o-line, they did key one of the most prolific and balanced offenses in the conference/region/country and only allowed 5 sacks on the season - i can't pick individual players because you've really got to see an ol on film or pay CLOSE attention to them during the game to really get a feel for how well they play

anyone want to discuss or make suggestions?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 14, 2005, 04:16:18 PM
From Narch
despite the fact that cnusfinest is less than impressed with the monarch o-line, they did key one of the most prolific and balanced offenses in the conference/region/country and only allowed 5 sacks on the season - i can't pick individual players because you've really got to see an ol on film or pay CLOSE attention to them during the game to really get a feel for how well they play

5 sacks is pretty unbeatable even with Rockets legs. That's gotta be a record at MC? Those are GOOD HOGS ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 14, 2005, 05:36:08 PM
Quote from: narch on November 13, 2005, 08:16:14 PM
j - no soreness toward cnu...i haven't really talked badly about cnu in some time (other than to point out the obvious flaws in the cnu english dept. when reading posts from current and former capts :)) -

p.s. - i'm a huge yankees fan, too, so i can understand what cnu fans feel like when they lose...i simply like to point out that there are AT LEAST 26 reasons to like the yanks ;) -

Narch - you gotta point out the English Dept at GC...come on...have you really looked at some of Mosh's posts? Their, there, nope..got it...they're really bad!

26? I thought the yankees had 27?  Or maybe I was thinking about next year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 14, 2005, 05:37:03 PM
weird.....my comments ended up inside the quote below..

as Mosh would say ... "Probally" something I did.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 14, 2005, 05:38:08 PM
I'll check on here after the Ferrum game. I'm a Panthers fan now!!!

Off to d3hoops.com. Lookout So. Va. and Md Bible!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2005, 05:55:07 PM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2005, 08:48:32 AM
personally, i don't think the captains should leave the usasac but, if they did, joining a re-structured cac would make the most sense in my mind - the cac could invite frostburg, wesley, apprentice and cnu to join, then convince cua to join for all sports (instead of all except football, as they are now) and convince gallaudet to make a committment to KEEPING football and you'd have 7 football playing members OR maybe the cac could leave apprentice out of the mix and convince a school like mary wash and/or marymount/goucher/york to add football

Although I cannot speak for the current athletic administration and it's been nearly a decade since I was empowered to speak for the previous athletic administration, I don't think Catholic would have any interest in being in a league such as the one you outline there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 14, 2005, 08:17:18 PM
English is my second language; I apologize.


Goodluck Ferrum....

I dont need this ridicule anymore...
CNU,  Hope your ship burns down and takes some of its horrendous alumni with it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 14, 2005, 08:28:33 PM

5 sacks is pretty unbeatable even with Rockets legs. That's gotta be a record at MC? Those are GOOD HOGS ;)
Quote


I think the record is 3 from last yr, but they threw the ball alot more this yr!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on November 14, 2005, 08:47:39 PM
mosh, im not talking trash to you but... if you dont need this ridicule why do you make such broad statements like go cnu... go to hell.  and i hope your ship burns down with the terrible alumni in it.   ok, you havent threatened anybody with fistcuffs( haha fisticuffs) but you too show immaturity with always having the last word with childish remarks.  if you want the bs to stop, turn your other cheek.
in my opinion i think you like the attention the coach finest gives you. tata

the illiterate prick (another moshism)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on November 14, 2005, 09:05:38 PM
yea D. Salior, he played for the Steelers, 80's.  He was in on special team play that game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 14, 2005, 09:26:40 PM
Dude, nothing flew over my head period. Trash talk is trash talk and I can accept that from people and teams that have the right to do so. But in Mosh's case his play as well as the play of his team gives him no right to say anything about CNU in MY book. When you open your mouth about another team you leave yourself open for the comebacks and obviously your little friend couldn't handle them.


Best comparison I can think of is finest is like the yankees fans...not the team, the team is good. the fans are idiots.    Anyways, I think it goes this way for the majority of your fans.  I have seen some class on here but overall, the majority are very similar to the yankee fans that throw batteries at players.  Anyways, your right this is childish. 

From this day on, and previous days before this I will always cheer for any team "ANY TEAM" that plays cnu.
Sounds about right
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2005, 10:33:19 PM
Quote from: cnu85 on November 14, 2005, 05:36:08 PM
Narch - you gotta point out the English Dept at GC...come on...have you really looked at some of Mosh's posts? Their, there, nope..got it...they're really bad!

26? I thought the yankees had 27? Or maybe I was thinking about next year?

'85 - nobody from gc comes on this board talking about what a superior academic institution g'boro is and how the admissions standards are SO HIGH at gc (as cnu fans have in the past), so i don't have high expectations for mosh or any of his gc counterparts who have posted over the years - i KNOW that you cringe when you see some of the posts from current and former players on this board, and the hoops board

and, unfortunately, it's still 26 (http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/nyy/history/championships.jsp)

to keep your reponse out of the quotes, you've got to type what you want AFTER the [ /quote ] code
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: religion_major on November 14, 2005, 10:53:19 PM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2005, 10:33:19 PM

and, unfortunately, it's still 26 (http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/nyy/history/championships.jsp)

That's a good thing the yankees did not win #27. ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 14, 2005, 10:54:28 PM
Narch not beating a dead horse or anything but when you quoted one of my previous post about beating Mosh up. I found it funny that you highlighted only the parts that backed the point you were trying to make against me. Maybe you should have highlighted the smiley face and all of the HA HA's because I was being extremely sarcastic. I mean seriously how can you imprint the words Dixie/USA South champs on someones head during a fight. For an extreme intellectual like yourself, I thought that would be more than enough, to show the sarcasm . But in your case I guess once again you didn't comprehend yet another one of my post. In your eyes I'm an extremely immature, grammatically impaired, ex football player from CNU that you just love to hate and Mosh is the mature golden boy english major from a private college.

Mosh just for the record I started four years at CNU and the only time I saw limited action was during injury or bad health. I had extensive stints in the hospital twice during my playing days because of an illness and still finished out every year at a pretty high level when my doctors begged me not to play. Not to mention the fact that I was voted on the all conference team every year. Narch you talk about immaturity as if you really know me outside of a freaking message board room. To be quite frank if you ever met me in person I am very positive that you would have nothing but the up most respect for me as a person and as a football player. Your step son Mosh always talks about how much of a warrior he was during his playing days. Not to toot my on horn but a good amount of players would have sat out two years from football if they had endured some of the things I faced during my playing days.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 14, 2005, 11:03:00 PM
No one said that CNU was the next Stanford or Harvard Narch. In the private vs. public debate since CNU is a public school it has far more limitations in a lot of things it does. We can't give academic scholarships to below average students like private schools can. Believe me I was recruited by a pretty dominate D3 school in the south coming out of high school and getting money for me to come play their was NOT A PROBLEM. Lets just say that I was going to get a pretty nice Academic scholarship package to off set the cost of a public school like CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 14, 2005, 11:34:48 PM
If you are such a great individual then stop acting like such a ----.  Put whatever you want there, their, thier, they're...So you played DE...Ian something right?  Maybe my memory fails me in old, old age...Congrats on your all conf and your four years.  So im appeasing like the allies at Yalta.  I extend no apology, I think you were a real d--k but I know I can be as well. 

Boys and Girls, maybe we call all learn a lesson here.  Or maybe we cant.  Either way who cares.


Pride, Get Better
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 14, 2005, 11:37:42 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 14, 2005, 11:34:48 PM

Boys and Girls, maybe we call all learn a lesson here.  Or maybe we cant.  Either way who cares.


I can see Pat putting a stop to this real fast if you guys don't chill out.  If it wasn't playoff time he might have already.  Kudos to you for trying to defuse it somewhat, mosh. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2005, 11:41:24 PM
finest - here's the deal - i have a lot of respect for what you did on the field for four years at cnu - you've got the rings and the ncaa experience to back it up BUT, i quoted your post EXACTLY WORD FOR WORD - i simply hit the "quote" button in your original post and did not alter your words ONE BIT - the words typed in red were added to clarify YOUR mis-quote of mosh - and while that post may have been sarcastic, i don't think there is any reason to threaten physical violence, sarcastically or not

here's the thing...all summer long i remember reading your posts about the su "ladies" and other trash talk from cnu players and former players - it got to the point that i stopped reading it because it was simply not fun to read the complete nonsense that you and your former teammates were writing, but most of it was aimed at su and the other schools that couldn't hang with cnu - then, cnu loses a conference game to a team that has never beaten them, mosh comes on the board and talks a bit of trash while congratulating mc and you get so upset that you "sarcastically" threaten to fight him - if you're going to throw stones, don't build your house out of glass

for what it's worth, this is the post that started this whole firestorm...found it on page 34

Quote from: moshergc9 on October 22, 2005, 06:16:09 PM
NARCH!!!
Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Its nice to see that a private school can knock the state school back to its Knees a little. Private Public, Public has the edge and even though I really only root for GC I root for everyone except cnu.
Congrats
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 14, 2005, 11:50:40 PM
Men...men calm down. I read more than I post herebecause I love to hear you guys. You're so passionate like I am about keeping Micheal Jackson away from my kids (except Brian)

but we all have to get together and get really drunk, talk about BC, (cheerleaders), how LLama and Skoal got caught in that porta pottie with that small terrier and the empty case of PBR, and that chick dressed up like guy with a ....oh..let that go..... and make a fool ourselves and then hug. NOt the guy HUG. I am little partial to MOSH with that Richard Gere walk he's got.

Serious now we have all played and run into each other. But we be older than dirt now......Relax and build for tommorrow.  I still love everyone excpet MC55 who probably told the cheerleader I was talking to I was really 50 instead of 24. Man I had her going....cost my son an extra ALL SOUTH. Just joking :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 14, 2005, 11:55:05 PM
BfB
There ain't no defusing these boys they are off the hook. Maybe a little "how much i CARE ABOUT" BY A FAT OLD MAN WILL HELP. But I wasn't kidding about the porta pottie. I got witnesses

ABNRGR
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2005, 12:00:10 AM
leave it to abnrgr to bring a little levity to the situation :)

here is REALLY important stuff

3 monarchs named academic all-district (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/academicalldistrict.htm) - it sure would be nice to see an academic all-american or 3 from this bunch - all 3 are impressive on and off the field
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 15, 2005, 12:02:30 AM
3 ALL Adademics!! That will hook the parents faster and make their kids go there. Now don't tell me they were all HOGS
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 15, 2005, 01:29:45 AM
Posted by Uncle Jessie
Way to go MC beating the who!!!!!!What a wild couple of weeks this is going to be to end the season and see who goes to the playoffs.
Quote from: cnusfinest on October 22, 2005, 06:49:02 PM
Like I said earlier in the year Pat Coleman our conference foes hate us.  But anyways congrats Methodist on the win.

For you Mosh you always talk about how much of a hard nosed player you were and about how much pride and honor you had for your team. Bottom line is I think your a little Bi$$$. You haven't said anything about CNU since God knows when and now that we loose a game you want to come on here and speak our name out of your mouth. Why don't you get off of Methodist n$$$ and let me say something about your scrub of a team. Bottom line is you couldn't even start for the bottom feeder Pride in your hay day. You were 0-4 against the Captains, with all of them being blowouts. Lets take a trip down memory lane when Gboro was I think undefeated in the first few games and you and your PATHETIC defense was ranked 2nd in the nation in total D because your team was playing scrubs. Lets see I think the Captains ran your little ladies out of your sorry high school stadium. Its funny how you talk trash about CNU now but I knew you when you were playing and I never heard you pop stuff on the field. I'm sorry I guess you wouldn't, it would have been even more PATHETIC

Trash talk is trash talk and yeah me and a few SU fans have went back and forth more than a few times. Uncle Jessie also poked fun at the CNU loss as well but you didn't see me blow up on him. The reason is he has had something to say negative or positive about CNU all summer and I can respect that. As much as I hate it SU still owns a 3-2 edge against CNU and I can respect that. No matter how much I call them the SU ladies or complain about how we blew the game, at the end of the day they still beat us on the field and I can never change that. Even the great Narch states what if factors on the board from time to time Ex. if Hill plays in the Ferrum game then MC would have won etc. etc. A lot of people congradulated MC on the win as they should have including myself. A simple congrats would have been enough coming from Mosh but he took it to another level trying to throw shots. Looking back, I will admit that I was a little harsh in my reply. No other team in this conference is obligated to root for any other team in this conference and I understand that. But when CNU made it to the playoffs year in and year out Mosh posted that either we would loose, hoped that we would loose, or that he wished a private team and not the public school Captains could make it to the playoffs. After our playoff wins or any other wins there was always silence from his mouth. But as soon as CNU losses a game after months of saying nothing about the Captains he wants to use our name in his mouth.  Like I said before if he has nothing good to say about the Captains then don't say nothing at all.

And Narch EVERYONE knows I hate SU with a passion but besides poking fun after the Captains win over SU. Have you seen me poke fun at the Hornets who have went from a share of the title to dead last and only 1 win. No and believe me I would have had a lot to talk about but why kick a man when he is down. Uncle Jessie an SU fan gave his congrats to the Monarchs and a little joke for old time sake at the Captains by calling us the WHO and we left it at that. I remember talking Cash S--- about SU after the CNU win and he didn't really seem to mind and he left it as is.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on November 15, 2005, 02:39:04 AM
finest wasnt sick, hes just ugly.  he isnt ian vincent but it good in his own way ( spidey senses). 

Anybody with scores of wesley vs ferrum ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 15, 2005, 09:00:11 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 14, 2005, 11:55:05 PM
BfB
There ain't no defusing these boys they are off the hook. Maybe a little "how much i CARE ABOUT" BY A FAT OLD MAN WILL HELP. But I wasn't kidding about the porta pottie. I got witnesses

ABNRGR

Abnrgr,
All I can say is that dog wouldn't hunt after that!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 15, 2005, 09:25:56 AM
Narch-
    Your first team defensive backs better include Rob Rodriguez. 50 total tackles, 2.5 for a loss and 1 for a sack. Three picks, seven pass breakups and SIX blocked kicks. Not bad for a guy who's listed as 5-8.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 15, 2005, 09:48:58 AM

  Now you taking words from my mouth. I definately congratulated cnu for making the playoffs. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 15, 2005, 12:46:29 PM
I agree with Finest...SU would have been an easy target to bash this year. The wheels fell off that wagon for some unexplained reason to me. But I don't recall anyone bashing their 1-9 record. As far as Mosh being immature, maybe....but we would have re-defined "immature" had CNU gone 1-9. Mosh would have been all over it! I like the fact that he started the dart throwing, then backs down...doesn't need the ridicule. Face it Mosh, you threw a dart, had every right to, but got toasted by a squadron of F-22 Raptors in return - take it like an abnrgr - ooh rah!! (that was just for you abnrgr!!).

Now on to hoops - another possible long season for CNWho!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 15, 2005, 01:35:42 PM
Yeah you fighter pilots really showed me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: miz on November 15, 2005, 01:42:09 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 15, 2005, 01:35:42 PM
Yeah you fighter pilots really showed me.

Reading these past few pages of posts I can't decide if this is really funny or just plain sad.  I suspect the latter. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 15, 2005, 02:38:58 PM
Rock the Casbah, rock the casbah!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2005, 02:43:51 PM
miz - it's clearly sad, and i'm ashamed of my part  :-[

i'm taking nominations for all conference defensive players

these are the players i am considering based on what i saw this season:
dl - northern, mc
lb - woods, cnu; morse, cnu; pope, mc; lawrence, mc
db - rodriguez, cnu, gauntlett, mc; shuford, mc

truthfully, i wasn't impressed by many defensive players that i saw this season, and i didn't see ferrum, au, m'ville or gc play...i need some help, folks - post your suggestions
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 15, 2005, 03:07:14 PM
I don't know much about the other kids in the conference so picking an all conference team would be to hard. And yeah defense in the USA South was obviously down a bit this year with all of the points teams scored on each other week in and week out.

Narch maybe you should make the ? easier. Maybe the ? should be who is the defensive player of the year.

I am bias partly because I felt that J. Wood had a monster of a year last year and should have gotten the defensive POTY. But if not him I would say that with all that Rodriquez has done, either by making plays on defense, making tackles on special teams, blocking kicks (like he plays at VA Tech), and returning kicks for TD's the conf. should give him some type of player of the year award. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bill McCabe on November 15, 2005, 03:23:02 PM
I understand Mary Hardin Baylor will be playing CNU next season.  Any word on this or thoughts?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 15, 2005, 03:52:06 PM
Speaking of POTY awards...I think there should be a "special teams player of the year".  There is no bigger turn around in yardage than in the kicking game.  For instance if a kick returner had 1,000 yards returning in a season then he gave you ten first downs in each game.  How many offensive players can say they average 10 first down receptions/runs in a game.  Also, someone who can block kicks like Rodriquez not only takes points off the board but also causes huge swings in field position.  I know it would extemely hard to judge but these guys probably change the face of each game more than anyone else on the team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 15, 2005, 04:18:01 PM
Where ya been Bill?? That was released Oct. 27!! But ya, the Capts and The UMHBs will meet for a home and home this year and next. Should be fun, hopefully the Capts can compete with them and make it a great game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Crunch on November 15, 2005, 05:14:12 PM
What a year, what a season.  Hey "finest" I can't take another year of watching.  This past season, even though I was coaching, was miserable.  I believe I'm going to pull the pads back out and find me a team to play for.  And I'm ready to do the "old man" thing and talk my smack on this board.  Because thats what the USAC is all about...."Love to Hate".   

finest,
     Do you have the same problem of your rings clanging together while you're trying to type?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2005, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: Captain Crunch on November 15, 2005, 05:14:12 PM
finest,
     Do you have the same problem of your rings clanging together while you're trying to type?
that is EXACTLY the type of smack-talk i LOVE to see from former cnu players! - great stuff which may explain the difficulty some of them have with grammar and spelling :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bill McCabe on November 15, 2005, 06:24:30 PM
Goose13, I thought I had heard that, but I wasn't sure.  Where is the game next year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: imad3fanatic on November 15, 2005, 06:31:56 PM
Quote from: Bill McCabe on November 15, 2005, 06:24:30 PM
Goose13, I thought I had heard that, but I wasn't sure.  Where is the game next year?

The 06 Game is at CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Insideslant/D on November 15, 2005, 10:01:20 PM
 :)yea Bill McCabe, not to dis you or anything.  Mary H. Baylor opponet is a good sign of the way CNU program is headed.  They got more balls in the conference than any other school to go after the big boys, early.  "ARE YOU GOING TO RUN WITH THE BIG DOGS OR STAY HOME ON THE PORCH WITH THE PUPS" 8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on November 15, 2005, 10:26:57 PM
mosh,
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on November 15, 2005, 10:28:07 PM
mistake

mosh,
          this is very immature... but youre a poonanny
ok just had to get that off my chest
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 15, 2005, 10:36:57 PM
Quote from: cnu85 on November 15, 2005, 02:38:58 PM
Rock the Casbah, rock the casbah!!

And I always thought it was Cashbar! Go figure. :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 15, 2005, 10:42:51 PM
Sailor lets all just leave Mosh alone. Come on sailor you and your girl both know that I am not ugly.  ;) But you need to get in the weight room you guys have a tough schedule ahead and you need to prepare now and not later fat boy. As of last saturday you and Taco will have to take on the role of being the leader of the Front 7. ? is can you handle it and you HAVE TO GET THE POINTS PER GAME DOWN.

Remember the 14 will be watching.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 16, 2005, 09:25:15 AM
Your kidding me right Llama?? Rock the cashbar!! I like it tho!!

Basketball Friday, thank god.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 16, 2005, 01:39:56 PM
Bill,

Hey Welcome to this part of the world. My take on the 2 year agreement...I think it's great for CNU. CNU has been scheduling the non-conf portion of the schedule with the toughest and best teams they could find. CNU and UMHB play in week 2 next year, right after we go to NJ to play Rowan.

My take on the actual game.....CNU needs to figure out the O-line, D-line and a new problem next year....LB....as all 3 starters were seniors!!

Yikes.....if CNU can figure it out it will be a fun game...if not....a blowout by the boys from Texas.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 16, 2005, 01:46:15 PM
I can't remember if I said this yet or not......Hats off to AU for a 7-3 season and for scheduling Mt Union next year. Ferrum, AU, MC.....all great years......football has arrived in the USASAC.

Meanwhile the ODAC teams think it's a good idea to play So Va, and club teams.......that was for the lurking LlamaDude!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 16, 2005, 02:19:05 PM
CNU

hey buddy- GC-Q has tried the D2 schedule in the past few years. Carson Newman and Charleston Southern. Do we get points for that?  :)

Always picking on that LLama and his Skoal buddy
Title: Narch's all USASAC team
Post by: narch on November 16, 2005, 03:00:17 PM
my all conference teams are completed

1st and 2nd team offensive players

CONFERENCE ONLY STATS USED TO ACCOUNT FOR VARYING LEVELS OF COMPETITION UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED

quarterback
first team
roncketti, mc - offensive poty 297 ypg total offense, 29 total td's (10 games) and only 5 to's (4 int, 1 fum)
second team
pitts, fc - 205.3 ypg total offense, 22 total td's (10 games)

running back
first team
wilson, au - 130 ypg, 10 td's, 5.2 ypc
mullford, fc - 111 ypg, 11 td's, 8 ypc
second team
hill, mc - 109 ypg, 5 td's, 5.0 ypc
hilliard, cnu - 99 ypg, 8 td's, 5.3 ypc

hilliard gets the last spot over j. williams (87 ypg, 7 td's, 5.6 ypc...5 games)

full back
first team
hawkins, fc - 74 ypg, 2 td's, 5.7 ypc
second team
frates, su - 78 ypg, 4 td's, 3.4 ypc

frates will probably get 1st team as a nod to his career, but hawkins put up better numbers (ypc) in an offense that was infinitely better than the su offense

wide receiver
first team
hughley, au - 92 ypg, 7 td, 17.4 ypc
jackson, mvc - 88 ypg, 11 td, 17 ypc
second team
lowe, gc - 73 ypg, 2 td's, 9.3 ypc offensive freshman oty
davis, cnu - 71 ypg, 6 td's, 16.1 ypc

sands, mc is a possibility, especially if they name 3 wr's to the second team (see below) - the coaches may "make up" a position for lowe since he lined up in so many different positions this past year - i did put sands in as a ret specialist

first team te - silk, fc - 10 rec, 258 yards, 6 td's

couldn't find anyone listed as a te who deserved recognition...maybe the 2nd team will have 3 wr's

first team ol - 2 monarchs (breen and dinges), 1 panther, 1 cougar, 1 other
second team ol - 1 monarch (delapp), 2 panthers, 1 cougar, 2 others

despite the fact that cnusfinest is less than impressed with the monarch o-line, they did key one of the most prolific and balanced offenses in the conference/region/country and only allowed 5 sacks on the season - i can't pick individual players for the other teams because you've really got to see an ol on film or pay CLOSE attention to them during the game to really get a feel for how well they play

1st team defense and specials
we're running a 3-5 defense, because the lb's are the strength on the defensive side 

defensive line
townsend, mvc - led d-lineman in tfl's (10),  sacks (6) and was second in tackles per game at 3.8
northern, mc - second among d-lineman in tfl's (7.5), sacks (3.5) and averaged 2 tpg (in all 10 games)
greene, gc - led d-lineman in tpg (5.2) and had 6 total tfl's and 1.5 sacks (tfl and sack stats for greene are for all 10 games)

linebackers
pope, mc - #2 among lb's in tpg (7.3), top 10 in sacks (2.5) and tfl (7.5)
moore, au - #4 among lb's in tpg (5.8 ), top 10 in sacks (2.5), tfl (8 ) and forced fumbles (2)
lawrence, mc - #3 among lb's in tpg (6.6), added 1.5 sacks
morse, cnu - #5 among lb's in tpg (5.5), top 10 in sacks (2.5)
wood, cnu - #7 among lb's in tpg (5.4) added .5 sack

i also considered the leading tackler among lb's, howerton for mvc, but he only played 4 conference games, and mvc's defense was among the worst in the conference

defensive backs
boyd, au - led db's with 6.6 tpg at 5'9"/170
p. ford, fc - #3 among db's with 5.3 tpg and t3 in pass break ups (8 ) and t2 in int's with 2 and scored a td on an int return
rodriguez, cnu - considered him as a return specialist, but couldn't really think of or find a db that i liked better

special teams
larkin, mc - pk - led conference in pat % and fg's made (struggled with fg% some this year), had 10 tb's in 10 games and had 2 40+ yard fg's
thurnes, au - p - 37.1 avg, 33.8 net avg, 16 of 46 punts inside the 20, 6 fair catches and no blocks
sands, mc - return specialist - rodriguez is the best in the conference, but he's on my team as a db - sands was 2nd with a 26.3 return average (his long on the season was 42, so he was consistently giving the monarchs 25+ yards without breaking one) - he also averaged a respectable 9.2 yards per punt return, ranking in the top 10 in the conference in both

defensive foty - spellman, ncwc

this may look a little captain and monarch heavy to some, but cnu led the conference in scoring and total defense as well as yards allowed per play (4.2), mc was second in scoring defense, 3rd in total defense (by .9 ypg) and 2nd in yards per play (5.1)

lastly, i have NO IDEA who will or should get dpoty - i have a suspicion that this award may go to woods based on career accomplishments, but i was unimpressed with the game he played against mc this year (freeman and morse looked better than him, to me) - if we're looking at sheer numbers from THIS YEAR, i think pope should be considered...he was the best linebacker on the field in the 4 games i saw (lawrence and morse were pretty close) and i didn't see a dl or db that was more impressive than those 3 lb's - of course, the mc defense is designed to funnel everything to the lb's, so some will say that pope and lawrence were "products of the system", but they produced

coach of the year - davis, fc - picked 5th, finished tied for first
(with a nod to coach sypult and dunlevy of au)

comments, criticism (of the teams selected) and thoughts are welcome :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 16, 2005, 05:17:09 PM
1/2 Karma Pt for ABNRGR

Narch - my comments....I enjoyed reading your post. I kept thinking....this man needs a job!!! Where do you find the time!?!?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on November 16, 2005, 05:48:50 PM
Narch,
Mike Hill had 12 total tds, and I would have to go with the 2 seniors on the OL(Delapp and Willis).  They all played great though.  The WRs also did a great job with Sands leading in yards and catches, and Doleman leading in TDs with 7(6 big ones in Conf).  I think the WRs were the best group in the conf, but it would be tough to put one on the list because of the numbers.  They didn't have a problem sharing the ball.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 16, 2005, 06:45:02 PM
ROCKET
Great job. when does your commissioning take place and what branch did you go?

CNU
better than nothing ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnumonster on November 16, 2005, 07:15:58 PM
now that I'm all done with college football...I'm gonna join finest, rocket, and I guess mosh in being an old man poster.

I guess I'll start off my first post with a question...Rocket can you please explain to me why #44 from your team was giving the nazi salute and saying white power to our players??? If he was kidding I don't know but we were all really confused.

We actually all watched it as a team before we played you all...after he scored on a team you were playing at home...he ran through all his teammates without giving a high five or nothing and then went in front of the crowd and threw the salute. Don't really understand whats up with that.


p.s. sailor...time lounge here we come..I start saturday
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 16, 2005, 07:20:49 PM
Narch that was the problem with giving the award to Vernable 2 or 3 years in a row. The kid was good and all but not deserving over a couple of players last year. Wood had a great year in 04 and the loss of last years D linemen seemed to have had more of an impact on the defense than people thought. But through it all he still lead the best defense in the conference in tackles and he most certainly was a major focus during each coach's preparation for game week.  All three linebackers for CNU were really good and should end up somewhere on the All conf team.

The new schedule is tough and if the Captains don't prepare now it can easily be an 0-4 start. But it should make them battle tested for conference play so there are your pros and cons.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on November 16, 2005, 08:09:07 PM
monster
im going back to work saturday too.  i get to break you.  me you ramon the pony and tony the fruit loop are going back saturday too.
wow
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2005, 08:29:03 AM
rocket - yeah, i didn't include receiving yardage or td's for any of the rb's, but probably should have...if i get a chance today, i'll run those numbers - i agree totally on the wr corps - while none of them (other than possibly sands) will be named all-conf., i wouldn't trade the 5 monarch wr's (sands, doleman, mularski, howard and robinson) for any group in the conference, and maybe not for any group in the south region - any one of them could be a legit #1 wr at a lot of places, but they all make each other better and any of them can step up when needed - they run good routes, have great hands, can stretch the field, block well, run after the catch and have good size, but best of all...they should all be back next year - whoever wins your job next year will have a talented and experienced receiving corps to throw to, for sure

i understand wanting those seniors, and you know the game better than i do, but i was very impressed with breen and dinges this season - in fact, i think the o-line will continue to improve and be a strength for this team - lavere alexander played quite a bit the last few games, and i can see him stepping in as a starting tackle to replace delapp - i imagine that one of the guards could slide over to center or that there is another center in the mix to pick up where willis left off - coach funderburk will have the o-line ready to play

i'm (obviously) impressed with hill, but matthews looked pretty nice toward the end of the season, too - he should be a nice complement to hill and give the monarchs 10-15 touches per game which will hopefully allow hill to stay healthy for 10 games next year - the monarchs are going to ride his legs, especially early, and he'll need some help to stay fresh all season long - will he wear #2 next year?  will lawrence get #1?

bottom line is, if the monarchs can find a suitable qb from the current back-ups or in a new recruit, this offense will be fine next year

once again, rocket, congrats on an outstanding season and thanks for making mc football fun for me, as a fan, the last few years - you really represent mc and d3 football well, and it's been a pleasure to watch you develop as a leader and a player - i hope you have a chance to make an all-region team (the voters are going to have to drill down deeper than the pure numbers and look for leadership and abnrgr's "intangibles, man") and possibly an academic all-american team...you deserve all of the accolades you get!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: dwadel on November 17, 2005, 11:09:28 AM
Duane Alston
PR  12 /178 /14.8 15TH IN NATION
KR  27/524 /19.4
5 GAMES ON OFFENSE  REC.8 /118 /14.8
5 GAMES ON DEFFENSE 2INT 39 YRDS 19.5
26 TACKLES
864 ALL PURPOSE YRDS 86.4 PER GAME =SPECIAL TEAM POTY
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 17, 2005, 11:57:14 AM
I hear Rob Rod was named USA South Defensive Player of the Year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2005, 01:50:29 PM
dwadel - not to take anything away from alston, because he is VERY dangerous, but is he even the special teams poty on his own team?

here are hughley's numbers
pr - 11/231/21.0 avg/1 td
kr - 6/121/21.8 avg

correct me if i'm wrong, because i did not see averett play this year, but don't the cougars put 3 guys back deep to return kickoffs and go 2 deep to return punts? if so, could it be that alston's additional yardage and returns could have been because teams were kicking AWAY from hughley - don't be fooled by the big yardage totals...you have to look at the averages - au's defense was #6 in the conference in scoring and #7 in yards allowed, meaning that alston had more opportunities to return kicks than sands or rodriguez (coupled with the fact that teams kicked AWAY from rodriguez and sands)

for comparison sake, here are the 2 other returners that i consider among the best in the conference (along with hughley and alston)

sands, mc
pr - 11/101/9.2
kr - 16/428/26.8

and the best, in my opinion

rodriguez, cnu
pr - 7/117/16.7
kr - 10/268/26.8/1 td
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 17, 2005, 01:56:21 PM
Here is a link talking about SU breaking ground on the new end zone building and bathroom building behind the visitor bleachers on Monday at Shentel Stadium. Now that Shentel is getting its finishing touches I hope the administration can focus more on building that long awaited basketball arena next to Shentel to replace Shingleton. The link has a picture of what the building will look like.  http://www.su.edu/athletics/hornets_news.cfm?spid=1066
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2005, 02:33:25 PM
man, those are some really poor quality reproductions of the artist's renderings of the facility
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2005, 02:51:54 PM
will be official later, but i've used my connections

1st team offense
roncketti, mc - qb
mulford, fc; wilson, au - rb
hughley, au; lowe, gc - wr
frates, su - fb
delapp, mc - ol and 2 from fc, 2 from cnu (sorry, didn't catch the names, but the release will)

1st team defense
greene, gc; jones; northern, mc; townsend, mvc; williams, cnu - dl
moore, au; morse, wood and freeman, cnu - lb's
boyd, au; p. ford, fc; long & rodriguez, cnu - db's

hughley, au - rs
larkin, mc - pk
murphy, fc - p

roncketti, mc - opoty
rodriguez, cnu - dpoty
lowe, gc - oroty
spellman, ncwc - droty
davis, fc - coty

2nd team offense
pitts, fc - qb
hill, mc; williams, ncwc - rb
hawkins, fc - fb
jackson, mvc; davis, cnu - wr
lawson, au - te
breen & dinges, mc and 2 from su, 1 from au (once again, missed the names...sorry) - ol

2nd team defense
jackson & mcconaghy, au; parker, cnu; spellman, ncwc; 1 from su (missed the name again) - dl
pope & lawrence, mc; jordan, (?), and one other (missed school and name there...sorry) - lb's
collier, gauntlett & shuford, mc; parker, au - db's

rodriguez, cnu - rs
ashcraft, au - pk
barkus, cnu - p

my comments:
2 1st team ol from cnu is TOO many for a team that ranked 4th in scoring offense, 5th in total offense and 4th in yards/play and gave up 22 sacks...there should have been one more monarch - 2 second team ol from su is just not right, either...they were BY FAR the most inept offense i saw all season and in the last few years, and they returned some talented rb's...you've gotta think there were problems up front for that team to get so bad offensively, and i can't imagine them having 2 of the top 10 ol in the conference (particularly when mc and fc have only 3 and 2, respectively and were better offensively by leaps and bounds)

3 1st team lb's from cnu is also too many - they are good, but i didn't think any of them were better than pope or lawrence - pope should have replaced freeman on the first team

choosing 5 dl on each team is out of control...no need to choose that many, in my opinion

jackson (mvc wr) got robbed - he was a SURE FIRE 1st teamer, in my book - ypc, yards and td's were all FAR SUPERIOR to lowe

i'm a little surprised to see 3 monarch db's on the 2nd team - they're all very talented, and shuford and collier are freshman, but all 3 making the team is surprising

cnu had 8 first teamers, yet finished 4th in the conference...the 3 teams ahead of cnu in the standings had a total of 13 (including special teamers)

i didn't get the hon mention team, but as soon as the release is put on the usasac website, we'll see them
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: patcummings on November 17, 2005, 04:21:51 PM
I'll be on the call for Wesley/Ferrum this Saturday.  Link is on the front page under "Our broadcasts"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Crunch on November 17, 2005, 04:23:30 PM
forget about the Texas boys...I'm glad that Methodist is finally coming back to BAD NEWZ.  Don't get me wrong, as a player I enjoyed traveling to "Fayettenam".  The women of Monarch country sure do know how to treat a visitor.  Next year the Captains will be sure to return a favor.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 17, 2005, 04:49:54 PM
Thats ok narch, we like it when you b***h and moan about all-conference players. I love it when your all fired up. Justin Wood is special tho, you cant deny that accolades that kid is going to get this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2005, 10:33:55 PM
goose - i like to call it criticizing and voicing an opinion, but you can call it what you want...mostly i'm trying to invoke intelligent football conversation, but that's useless sometimes :) - at least i'm an equal opportunity moaner...i spoke up for players from other teams and expressed surprise at a few picks from mc that were higher than i expected...not to mention that i think hilliard should have been put ahead of williams based on his performance in conference games (you know i have a thing about using conference-only stats) - wood did not look special against mc...he looked like the 4th best lb on the field, to me (behind pope, morse & lawrence) - he had just 1 solo tackle and 6 assists, and if memory serves me correct, at least 4 of those tackles were 5+ yards downfield - i watched him closely because i met a member of his family prior to the game...really enjoyed talking to them, so i paid a bit of extra attention...wasn't overly impressed - i do remember being very impressed with him last year, but this is the 2005 all-conference team, not the 2004 all-conference team
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 18, 2005, 09:42:38 AM
I hear ya narch and I think you give some great insights on things but you cant tell me that one game makes a kid's entire season, you of all people have to agree with that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 18, 2005, 11:41:22 AM
Narch, you can always count on Coach Funderburk to have th oline ready to play. Its good to see some of the MC guys get some all conf spots. You were right about Woods not having his best game againt MC this yr, but the kid can play some football, and its hard for him to get tackles when the ball is flying down the field.

Rocket....hope things are going good, and maybe ill get another shot to play some football with you in March? We can still call it football even though its on a 50 yrd field right?!?!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 18, 2005, 12:24:33 PM
Way to salvage a disappointing season by smokin' the Panthers, CNU!  Thanks for all the memories, seniors!

I wish Ferrum luck tomorrow, but I'm thinking they'll get pasted....welcome to the playoffs.

If you're going to continue to be the resident english professor, narch, you better hope and pray that Antonio "Sharpie" Wilkerson doesn't decide to grace the board with his advanced ghetto vernacular.  :D

GO CAPS!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 18, 2005, 12:57:18 PM
Quote from: swish3 on November 18, 2005, 12:24:33 PM
If you're going to continue to be the resident english professor, narch, you better hope and pray that Antonio "Sharpie" Wilkerson doesn't decide to grace the board with his advanced ghetto vernacular.  :D
low, low blow....and really...why ??? - is it because you are completely embarassed by the way captains players/former players represent themselves on this board and you feel the need to belittle mc with something that ALLEGEDLY happened over 4 years ago? - admittedly, wilkerson wasn't the best writer...but he was no worse than what i've read from cnu players/former players, particularly this summer - mc has moved past the alleged "sharpie" situation with grace, class and dignity...maybe you should, too

that alleged incident may have been the best thing to happen to the mc football program - those that are in and associated with the program know what it did to galvanize this team - i also know that there was a renewed dedication to recruiting a good "4 year fit" for the monarch coaching staff, and i think the results are showing up on the field

besides, reading the way rocket and admiralpapi and mc55ol write gives me faith that wilk was the exception rather than the rule...can you say the same about the cnu players/former players?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 18, 2005, 12:58:46 PM
Well tomorrow is Ferrum's first game of the rest of the season. I guess there are not many picking the Panthers, but I am going to. I know that there pass defense is suspect, but I am planning that there will be at least 1 upset in the first round, and this will be it. OK...I am biased but you cant go against your favorite team. How are the home field sites determined for the second round?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 18, 2005, 01:10:12 PM
allen - glad to see you're still around - i was beginning to think that you had abandoned ship - sorry there wasn't more talk about ferrum this week...all-conference dominated my thoughts/posts - will you be going to the game? -  i've heard wesley has really upgraded their facilities to the point that they're pretty nice - i posted this under the south region playoffs - i'm going to try and branch out beyond the usasac and predict some games in this region...here goes:

trinity 31 - umhb 28 (ot) - this should be a regional final

thiel 24 - jhu 10 - both teams have solid defenses, but thiel has more offense

w&j 41 - b'water 38 - both teams have great offenses, but b'water has struggled against the pass some, and w&j throws it a lot - along with the texas game, these 2 games could be among the best of the weekend

wesley 38 - ferrum 17 - this is not the result that i WANT as a usasac fan, but it's what i think will happen - i know ferrum fans will say "fc can score 24 on anybody", but they didn't against cnu last weekend - ferrum defense is suspect to the pass and wesley has big, fast, physical receivers and they run just enough to keep you honest and guessing - wesley is also very stout against the run, and ferrum can't throw it when they NEED to (they are effective if they throw when it's not expected) - pitts is an exciting option qb, though, and he could single-handedly keep the panthers in the game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 18, 2005, 01:10:25 PM
Wood Named To Play In 2005 Aztec Bowl

WACO, TX - Christopher Newport senior linebacker Justin Wood will play for the American Football Coaches Association's Division III all-star game, the 2005 Aztec Bowl, on December 17 in Toluca, Mexico.

Wood becomes the second CNU football player to play in the Aztec Bowl, joining Tommy Fitzgerald, who played in last season's all-star game.

Wood, a senior from Hampton, VA, led the Captains in total tackles for the fourth straight season. He finished with 91 in 2005, including eight for a loss and 2.5 sacks. He was also a First Team All-USA South selection for the third consecutive season in 2005.

He is one of 46 NCAA Division III seniors from around the country who will make up this year's team. The game will kick off at 2 pm on December 17 at Estadio Chivo Cordoba in Toluca.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Crunch on November 18, 2005, 02:49:03 PM
Maybe there is another Captain tradition in the making.  Love him or hate him, now Justin Wood can serve his country in his own way like his brother. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on November 18, 2005, 04:34:50 PM
Way to Go Black Hats
The USA South Athletic Conference announced the 2005 All-Conference football team and Ferrum was well-represented.

Coach Dave Davis earned his first Coach of the Year award after leading the Panthers to the NCAA playoffs. 

Senior RB Terrell Mulford (North Garden, Va./Charlottesville), senior OL Brian Michaelsen (Oxford, N.C./J.F. Webb), senior DL Alvin Jones (Brookneal, Va./William Campbell), junior TE Chris Silk (Ashland, Va./Patrick Henry), junior OL Pete Bowyer (Goode, Va./Jefferson Forest), junior P Matt Murphy (Salem, Va./Salem), and sophomore DB Perry Ford (Albany, Ga./Monroe) were all named to the All-Conference first team.

Second-team honorees include junior QB Jermaine Pitts (Winston-Salem, N.C./RJ Reynolds), junior FB Jacob Hawkins (Floyd, Va./Floyd County), and junior LB Jared Jordan (Roanoke, Va./Northside).

Sorry guys about the Cut/Paste, I'm just a little to lazy and about outa time for today.  I am very proud of the Panthers and thought I would give em a shout out!
Go Panthers "You Got to believe"  Narch you got a few of them right!  Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 18, 2005, 06:40:46 PM
Good luck Panthers

Hey Narch is Rocket getting commissioned this May. What branch.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Gig Harbor Cat on November 18, 2005, 10:52:22 PM
UMHB Cru,
   Best of luck tomorrow,  We are looking forward to a rematch at the Catdome.  The Butcher and the boys will be waiting

                     Gig Harbor Cat
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 18, 2005, 11:49:57 PM
Panther fans, RESPECT RESPECT AND MORE RESPECT is what you all have been crying for all year.  Well tomorrow is your day to show what you are worth. There are 250  plus D3 football teams and only 32 of them will be playing tomorrow. Talk about  top 25, well this is supposed to be the best 32. The only way to savor a 9-1 season now is to at least win a few games in the playoffs. After a 44-7 loss last week, you guys really would not to end your season on a 2 game skid. Make the USA South proud and if this makes things any better for you guys. The last time you guys beat us before we went to the playoffs we ended up winning our first playoff game.

Good luck

 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 19, 2005, 12:43:55 AM
besides, reading the way rocket and admiralpapi and mc55ol write gives me faith that wilk was the exception rather than the rule...can you say the same about the cnu players/former players?
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Okay Narch what have we done besides have a little fun on the board whether it was bragging, talking trash to other teams, or group bashing people that try to be little our school. First of all Rocket and mc55ol come on here and give their little opinions on things and then they leave for a while and I can respect that. But lets be honest about the situation, what could they brag about on this board before this year. It is easy for fans and ex players to talk trash, dominate all discussions, etc... when your team is on top. If you need an example just take a look at SU fans and the Odac board. Last season their fans talk like they were the best thing since sliced bread. Where is redkite, rumplestilken, and Uncle Jessie now, before their 1-9 season they always had something to say whether it was negative or positive. Then take a glance at the ODAC board 5-6 years ago Bwater football program was a joke. After 5 straight ODAC titles and their fans would make you think they never had a losing season. I mean for the most part they have a lot of nice fans but I dare you to go over there and say something bad about their team and they will GO OFF. Believe me I know when we beat them in 03 yeah they gave us our congrats, some fans said "Oh well we played horrible and still had a chance at the end" then O Lord we got it bad from their poster when they beat us in the playoffs. Then the words flukes, CNWho, etc... dominated the USA South board. So don't give me that stuff that Adimarlpapi, Rocket, and MC55ol write so well and post so humble crap. NOT TO SAY THAT THEY ARE IN FACT BAD GUYS, but they only post 2-4 sentences max on here and even the great NARCH makes grammtical errors from time to time.

And now that I think about it even you got a little boastful after the success the Monarchs just had. If memory serves me correctly you told a FC poster that "MC would be the better playoff fit because they are a more balanced team and that they didn't lose 44-7 to the 4th placed team in the conference". And then there was the CNU fan that ticked you off and then you didn't hesitate to state that "MC was clearly the better team on that day and if they didn't go conservative the final score could have been 40 plus to 28. Even though you are a grammer genuis if I was a Panther fan I would have took offense to some of your comments. MC could have easily lost 3 games this year BUT THEY DIDN'T SO NOW YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT BECAUSE THEY ARE CO-CHAMPS but you cannot for one minute think that they are that much better than anyone else.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 19, 2005, 07:27:38 AM
for one thing let me address the ALLEGED "sharpie" incident 4 years ago. we all were sniors then and we saw what happened. what people didnt know is that the chargeswere dropped because they could not prove anything else and the kid was lying through his teeth, it did not happen that way.

Congratulations to the seniors at MC, fellas heck of a way to go out. We have been through a lot, but cam together.

I will say one thing about CNU, the only person on  that team with class is Justin Wood. All game he never said a word t noone, when he would get blocked he wold say nice jo at the end, turn aorund and go back to the huddle. As for the rest of theteam, they like to talk some smack, even when they are loosing. Its ok though, part of the game. I must say that he has my vote for sportsmanship though. Daryl lawerence from methodist is another. Im not just sayin that because he was yeammate, the kid had class on and off the field.

Mc55, hey man, call me sometime get up here.

narch, great jobthis season on posts, that is what this board iqs about, what you have done all season. ept stats and asked people to talk and give input. Great job, sounds like you could have a SID job if others didnt work out for ya.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 19, 2005, 08:55:53 AM
Swish3....come on man that was low!

MCol51: Good to hear from you, but read you posts next time!! Olineman already have a bad name, haha.

Congrats to Woods, he is a player, there is no question about that.  He should have a blast at that game.

cnusfinest: Lets not make the mistake of me being humble, but i have been with MC through it all(The good the bad and the very bad!)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 19, 2005, 09:22:06 AM
 i'll give you all a fans review of the game tonight when i get back to Pa. Narch and all you who used to visit me in the ACFC room . Aka wesley fan aka D Becker
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 19, 2005, 09:54:04 AM
for one thing let me address the ALLEGED "sharpie" incident 4 years ago. we all were freshman then and we saw what happened. what people didnt know is that the charges were dropped because they could not prove anything else and the kid was lying through his teeth, it did not happen that way.

Congratulations to the seniors at MC, fellas heck of a way to go out. We have been through a lot, but came together.

I will say one thing about CNU, the only person on  that team with class is Justin Wood. All game he never said a word to any of us while we were blocking him, when he would get blocked he would say nice job at the end, turn around and go back to the huddle. As for the rest of the team, they like to talk some smack, even when they are loosing. Its ok though, part of the game. I must say that he has my vote for sportsmanship though. Daryl lawerence from methodist is another. Im not just sayin that because he was teammate, the kid has class on and off the field.

Mc55, hey man, call me sometime get up here.

narch, great job this season on posts, that is what this board is about, what you have done all season. kept stats and asked people to talk and give input. Great job, sounds like you could have a SID job if others didnt work out for ya.
________________________________________________________________


Here we go now i have proof read it thanks to MC55 and my loving girlfriend. Hey you know lineman need all the help we can get!! alright buddy, good to hear from you too. Keep cool man.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 19, 2005, 10:16:41 AM
mcol51 - great season, great career...thanks for the fun, especially the last 2 years - you guys (the ol) were a big reason for the success the monarchs had the last 2 years, and i, for one, appreciate the work you do without the hype that other o-lines in the conference get - cnusfinest doesn't think that the mc line is underrated, yet a team that gave up just 9 sacks in two seasons and was one of the most effective offenses in the conference over that same time period, had just one 1st team all-conference player in the last 2 years...that tells me you guys work well as a unit and really maximize your talents as a group

finest - our back-and-forth is getting a bit childish - can we agree to disagree and leave it at that? - you're a captain fan, i'm a monarch fan...we'll probably never see things the same way  ;)

for what it's worth, though, i certainly wasn't the only one that thought the postings on this board this summer were bad

Quote from: captaininboston on September 02, 2005, 08:50:27 AM
Been a year or two since I've posted....this board got kind of ridiculous.  I got pretty embarrassed with some of the CNU posters. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 19, 2005, 11:52:01 AM
i appreciate it narch. it has been a struggle thats for sure. I mean freshman year when everything was against us we come out and have a decent season,but nothing worth shouting about. Then as our juniopr year approached, we all agreed to have a great season as a team. We did just that and came together and that season just opened it up to the season we had this year.

You know thats the good thing about playing for Coach Sypult though, not many people acknowledge the oline and how hard we work. He always told us we were the reason we get things going, and our coach was another one. I read through the post that Finest had written where he said we were overrated and it was our offensive skeem that let rocket get out of the pocket and scramble.

We were the most underrated offensive line inthe line and we were short, noone thought we would be able to run the ball, i say this to whoever said that, 2,000 yards on the ground isnt bad! Then the throwing game, its very interesting to me that we overrated, considering we only gave up 5 sacks this year. We pride ourselves for pass blocking, every lineman does this or you should, it should be a part of your game that you should have joy in. Coach Funderburk did this and we were ready this year. As far as the all-conference thing goes, you know we dont have a say-so in the matter, the coaches pick and thats it. But you said yourself, its the hardest position to judge all-conference lineman unless you watch them on film. Good job on the picks this year and good luck to everyone in the future.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 19, 2005, 12:02:49 PM
cnusfinest: Lets not make the mistake of me being humble, but i have been with MC through it all(The good the bad and the very bad!)
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Yeah I know but I didn't want to get anything started.  ;D As far as smack talk goes we all do it and more so when we are winning.  I can remember in 04, MC fans, JV players, and V players alike talked a lot of smack during and before that game. Personally I enjoyed every minute of the hostile environment. We had lost to SU and Methodist thought that we had a major chink in our armour. When MC got that pick on CNU's first drive and proceeded to drive it down the field on the Captain D, the whole placed erupted. But you will be surprised what a team OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhh OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhh OOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhh WHO CNU will do to a ball club.

Okay let me start by saying the J Wood is a great player who works hard and deserves every award he will recieve this year. But I played with the guy for 3 good years and Wood for one HATES GETTING BLOCKED as does any good defender and lets just say he talks the talk on the field but he can walk it. Im sorry but there are not to many Tim Duncan's in football.

Yeah Narch I will agree that some of the post over the summer got a bit out of hand but so what. No one has ever gotten physically hurt from a post, an opinion is simply what it is. As far as the MC line being underrated, I never said that they were not good. Only giving up 9 sacks in two years is great but lets look at something else. How many big games against good teams have they dominated in the past few years. You talk about them only giving up 9 sacks, then in my book they should have been able to pass over everyone because the Rocket had great pass pro. Then you state from time to time that their running game is very effective but yet in the last few years they have not dominated big games with the run. Ex. If MC got extremely conservative up 35-14 against CNU, I don't see any reason why behind a dominate pass pro oline and effective run blocking team could not find some way to back into the endzone.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: reccespynav on November 19, 2005, 03:18:31 PM
Hello..hello.  Is this thing on?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 19, 2005, 04:16:05 PM
Ouch - just saw the FC score. But then I again I think I posted someting about the game would be similar to the CNU - Widener game a few years back. Even so - great overall year for FC! They are the defending champs going into next year! That's something CNU can't say! FC could take a page out of the schedule book from CNU and AU....that's the way to get better!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 19, 2005, 04:19:50 PM
reccespynav, did you catch any ASC football?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 19, 2005, 05:51:51 PM
ferrum - great season...sorry it had to end that way, for everyone (including the conference) - being outscored 103 -21 the last 2 weeks isn't the way fc envisioned ending their season, i'm sure
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 19, 2005, 07:24:27 PM
You know its hard to pull for 2 teams (ala Wesley and Ferrum) you hated when you were in college because it was always a brutal game with them but I am sorry the Black Hats got planked. Hey you guys were in the SHOW. Be happy :)

I saw the score on ESPN 1 so hey you can't complain
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: patcummings on November 19, 2005, 08:07:52 PM
Ferrum found themselves in the deep end of the pool right off the bat today.  Couldn't hold on to the football early on, killed them in the end.

Even with the mistakes, Wesley still would have beat them by a bunch.  Early mistakes faded and Ferrum settled down, but still couldn't get the ball rolling.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 19, 2005, 08:29:40 PM
I was there, and it was ugly. Not as many penalties as against CNU, but just as dominated.
Good to see the good turnout by the Ferrum fans! Long time coach Hank Norton was there, as was Chris Warren

Glad they got to the tournament. While I will always be a Panther fan, they do seem somewhat one dimensional. Hopefully next year, they can improve their overall speed, both offensively and defensively. They need to build on this years success, and come out stronger next year.

Overall its been a rewarding year, and I will take solice in the fact that they made the field of 32.

Onward and Upward Panthers!   Thanks for a great season!
Quote from: patcummings on November 19, 2005, 08:07:52 PM
Ferrum found themselves in the deep end of the pool right off the bat today.

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No doubt about that....they have to minimize mistakes among other things, in order to be a serious contender.


GREAT YEAR PANTHERS THANKS!! I am Proud to be a fan!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 19, 2005, 09:09:25 PM
cnusfinest: I was never really a trash talker, I just did it more for fun. I figured if the other guy was worried about getting me back their mind wouldnt be on the game. You have one thing right though, I thought we had your number in 04. I am just proud of where this conf is going. Its good to see different teams getting national attention.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 19, 2005, 09:42:54 PM
MC55
You are starting to sound like Wilbur Sasser......a seasoned oldtimer.....good post coach
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 19, 2005, 10:03:21 PM
I on the other hand did talk a little smack in games, but never something i could not back up on the field. if memory serves me correct though MC55, you talked a little junk too, hahaha. we both did when u played beside me.

congrats to the panthers for getting the nod to the playoffs, but sucks you guys lost in the first round, i thought you guys could go a little further, but wesley is a good team, so hold your head high, and prepare for the next season. you guys have a lot of talent returning next year, should be another good year for you all.

I have really enjoyed this year playing, not a bad way to go out and finish your career. congrats to delapp for getting the nod to play in the north vs. south game. I enjoyed reading the posts this year it makes the game a lot more enjoyable to see people talkin football instead of talkin so much trash. No idea why the trash talk between mosh and finest, neither one of you guys play anymore so you cant really settle it on the field, an no matter what you couldnt anyways, you both played defense!

MC55, you goin to head back up to play another year for the guard? if so let me now ill make it to a couple of games before i graduate. Asheville is getting a AIFL team next year i thought i might try out there since it is back home and all, dont know though. there comes a time when you know its done, so i might just start coaching, hell i learned from the best o-line coach in the land! alright buddy get back to me.

Narch, who you think will win the championship this year, your the one good with stats an all the info,lol. Just trying to see if we can get some more football talk goin on this board.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 19, 2005, 10:32:55 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest on November 19, 2005, 12:02:49 PM
How many big games against good teams have they dominated in the past few years. You talk about them only giving up 9 sacks, then in my book they should have been able to pass over everyone because the Rocket had great pass pro. Then you state from time to time that their running game is very effective but yet in the last few years they have not dominated big games with the run. Ex. If MC got extremely conservative up 35-14 against CNU, I don't see any reason why behind a dominate pass pro oline and effective run blocking team could not find some way to back into the endzone.

finest - glad to bring this back to football conversation...let me ask you, which o-line or o-lines do you consider the best in the usasac? how about the best defense or d-line?

to answer your question, here is how mc fared against the top defenses (statistically) in the usasac this year:

cnu - ranked #1 against the run - mc ran for 157 and a 4.2 ypc avg
fc - ranked #2 against run - mc ran for 128 and 4.0 ypc without hill
su - ranked #4 against run - mc ran for 174 and 4.5 ypc


mc avg 153 ypg vs. teams that avg allowing 151 ypg=+2 ypg

cnu - #1 against pass - mc passed for 323 and 16.1 yd/comp
gc - #2 against pass - mc passed for 188, 13.4 yd/comp
au - #3 against pass - mc passed for 180, 13.8 yd/comp

mc avg 230 ypg vs. teams that avg allowing 170 ypg=+60 ypg

to contrast, here is what cnu did vs. top rated run/pass defenses:

fc #2 vs. run - cnu rushed for 233, 5.2 ypc
mc #3 vs. run - cnu rushed for 127, 3.8 ypc
su #4 vs. run - cnu rushed for 179, 4.8 ypc

cnu avg 179 ypg vs. teams that avg allowing 164 ypg=+15 ypg

gc #2 vs. pass - cnu passed for 124, 9.5 yd/comp
au #3 vs. pass - cnu passed for 120, 8.6 yd/comp
su #4 vs. pass - cnu passed for 56, 18.5 yd/comp

cnu avg 100 ypg vs. teams that avg allowing 176 ypg=-76 ypg

obviously there is more that goes into both of these numbers than JUST the lines (qb's, wr's, rb's), but success on both sides of the ball STARTS with the line, in my opinion - mc certainly fared much better against good defenses than did cnu, yet cnu had 2 first team all-conference o-lineman

against the BEST defense in the conference, the monarchs ran AND threw very effectively against a team that had EIGHT all conference defenders (6 first-teamers)

mc ranked #1 or #2 in EVERY major offensive statistic except time of posession - in conference games, they gave up just 3 sacks in 186 pass attempts while ferrum led the conference allowing just 2 in 67 pass attempts...every other team had 10+ sacks allowed - mc had fewer pass attempts than 5 teams in conference play, yet had almost 200 yards more than any other team, which means the o-line was giving rocket time to get the ball down field for big gains

you know as well as i do that play calling gets VERY different when a team is up 21 points in the second half - i was the first to credit the cnu defense and coaching staff for making good adjustments, and i did so on this very board, but let's be honest...the monarchs only threw the ball 7 or 8 times in the second half - it's MUCH easier to defend the run when you know it's coming, and cnu was stacking 8 and 9 in the box to stop it - mc didn't throw against that defense because they were playing SMART football, protecting a lead, and bleeding clock...it really is all about winning and losing, not putting up gaudy numbers
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 19, 2005, 10:38:01 PM
mcol51 - i'm going out on a limb and predicting linfield will win a 2nd straight national championship :) - they are just NASTY offensively and very solid defensively - one of my "final four" teams, trinity, has already been knocked out, but i thought the most difficult game in the region for them would be against umhb...guess i was right, since it was their only game :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 19, 2005, 10:55:05 PM
Narch,

good stuff as always...just wondering....do you have a girlfriend? TV? Friends? a dog? do you take time out from the stats research to do your laundry? LOL - just my way of saying you do a good job!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 19, 2005, 11:01:01 PM
good choice on that one. they do have a pretty good team this year, some of the guys say ti is better than last years team because of the experience. Could they be the next Mount union and start a tradition of winning the big dance? who knows.

It is still in my thoughts though how we would have faired against wesley. I mean no disrespect to ferrum, but we had a more balanced offense. Oh well, its just wishful thinking, however i think we would have been a good matchup.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 19, 2005, 11:14:29 PM
Quote from: cnu85 on November 19, 2005, 10:55:05 PM
Narch,
good stuff as always...just wondering....do you have a girlfriend? TV? Friends? a dog? do you take time out from the stats research to do your laundry? LOL - just my way of saying you do a good job!!
let's see...HOT wife (i really married up...anyone who knows me and she will vouch for that!) and 2 beautiful kids, a 36" tv (with nfl sunday ticket, 7 speaker surround, progressive scan dvd, ps2 and tivo), a few friends (most of whom are coaches), no pets, the usasac website has all of the stats...i just compile them, and the wife does laundry (i cook and do most of the cleaning...can't stand laundry or dishes, though) - thanks...i'm kind of a stats geek :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 20, 2005, 12:08:31 AM
I think this will give you my opinion on how good I think the defenses where in the USA South this year.

SCORING DEFENSE          G   TD  XP 2XP DXP  FG Saf  Pts   Avg
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1. Chris. Newport...... 10   26  17   1   0   8   3  205  20.5
2. Ferrum.............. 10   34  26   0   0   4   0  242  24.2
3. Methodist........... 10   35  27   4   0   4   0  257  25.7
4. N.C. Wesleyan....... 10   42  35   0   0   7   1  310  31.0
   Shenandoah.......... 10   43  35   1   0   5   0  310  31.0
6. Averett............. 10   44  31   3   0   4   1  315  31.5
7. Maryville........... 10   46  33   3   0   5   0  330  33.0
8. Greensboro.......... 10   48  41   2   0   3   0  342  34.2

SCORING OFFENSE          G   TD  XP 2XP DXP  FG Saf  Pts   Avg
--------------------------------------------------------------
1. Ferrum.............. 10   61  52   2   0   1   0  425  42.5
2. Methodist........... 10   49  38   4   0   7   2  365  36.5
3. Averett............. 10   46  31   4   0  10   0  345  34.5
4. Chris. Newport...... 10   43  31   3   0   8   0  319  31.9
5. N.C. Wesleyan....... 10   37  33   1   0   3   1  268  26.8
6. Maryville........... 10   34  23   3   0   3   2  246  24.6
7. Greensboro.......... 10   26  18   1   0   3   1  187  18.7
8. Shenandoah.......... 10   22  15   0   0   2   1  155  15.5

Looking at the offensive stats you would say that offense was really good in our conf this year. But it was plan to see from today's result that Ferrum's offense feed off of weak defenses this year and no other team this year played a really good defense to give us something to debate in my opinion.

Sometimes stats are very deceiving because CNU blew out Maryville who almost beat MC, then CNU blew out FC who beat MC, then MC almost lost to AU who led CNU the whole game and so on and so on. I don't know who should have been selected all Conf this year but you can't say CNU players where just selected by the coaches because they won the Conf. after all Narch they were the 4th place team.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on November 20, 2005, 02:11:07 AM
GC hoops 2-0,

tough loss ferrum, congrats on a great year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 20, 2005, 04:44:31 PM
Mcol51: Ok ok so i talked a lill trash, but never more than most......I just did my best to play untill the whistle. I am going to come back and play for the Guard again, had looked at some other places, but I think I am going to stick around. And about the coaching thing, man its harder than it looks!!!!!

Narch: Now you are a number cruncher my friend! HAHA i got tired of just reading your post!

Abnrgr: Now if I can just win as many games as Wilber Sasser did, then I would have something going.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 21, 2005, 12:28:28 PM
Lighten up, fellas.  I could give a damn about the sharpie incident, but I wanted to remind narch that EVERY team has players that may choose to mouth off via this forum and care less about grammar, sentence structure, spelling and so on.  While I agree that such posts are less than desirable, it doesn't give narch the right to take repeated jabs at CNU's quality of education.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 21, 2005, 12:49:44 PM
I think Wesley will win it all.

   And I think I was the greatest football player to ever live, But I didnt tell anyone when I was playing.

The end
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 21, 2005, 01:37:07 PM
Quote from: swish3 on November 21, 2005, 12:28:28 PM
Lighten up, fellas.  I could give a damn about the sharpie incident, but I wanted to remind narch that EVERY team has players that may choose to mouth off via this forum and care less about grammar, sentence structure, spelling and so on.  While I agree that such posts are less than desirable, it doesn't give narch the right to take repeated jabs at CNU's quality of education.
GO CAPS!
if you "could give a damn about the sharpie incident", then why bring it up ???...the example would have been just as relevant without it...i would have seen your point and given you a simple "touche" - i suspect you felt a bit ashamed of the way some cnu graduates and current students have represented themselves and your university, and you are probably a little frustrated and bitter that the football team fell to being the 4th place team in the conference - maybe that shame, frustration and bitterness caused you to lash out and make a statement based on a few headlines that you read, and not the actual facts of the situation

i've said this REPEATEDLY, but i'll say it again...i wouldn't bring up ANYTHING about "grammar" (actually it's the mis-use of the words then & than that gets me, typically) if cnu fans didn't constantly cite superior academic requirements as an equalizing factor whenever the private v. public issue comes up...if you (cnu fans) are going to talk about how academically superior your institution is and how much more difficult it is to gain admission to, then you're going to have to live with some backlash when the posts don't back that claim up
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 21, 2005, 01:45:31 PM
mosh - wesley is nasty, but i think they'll have a hard time getting out of texas - i do think they match up well with umhb, though - umhb likes to run the ball, much like ferrum, and if wesley can get a lead early, they've got a shot - the biggest difference i can see between umhb and fc is the defense - wesley will have a much more difficult time moving the ball against the crusaders than they did against the panthers - it also looks like umhb gets pretty solid special teams play, which did ferrum in this past weekend - it would be nice to see a team which most of our schools play/played regularly make some serious noise in the playoffs now that the usasac team is out of it
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 21, 2005, 02:28:02 PM
have to agree with Narch-
like to see Wesley go on but there will not be many teams left that will put the ball on the ground like Ferrum did and have a porous secondary. I think Wesley gets whacked this week. Unless somebody gets "fumblelitis". They are Yankess anyway ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 21, 2005, 04:51:39 PM
Hey Narch,

I can't speak for the other CNU fans on here, but for me - I only post about CNU academics when someone else posts that CNU is "easy" and for public school dummies. I only try to emphasize that the standards have been raised Although, I don't know at all if they are superior (probably not) than other schools. I just don't have the time, nor do I care about comparing academics. I do know this - and posted it - that more than 1 student athlete at CNU has told me that they would not be accepted today if they had to re-apply.

As for me....I decided late to go to college...screwed around in HS too much and was able to get into CNC. Back then, CNC didn't have dorms. I lived at home (the penalty for screwing off in HS). But I figure I gots me a good education anyway......(or maybe I gots it from going to grad school at W&M) .I kinda like where I am in life right now!

Hey Mosh - I actually liked your last post! Now that right there was funny...I don't care who you are!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 21, 2005, 05:14:54 PM
  Don't under estimate the Wesley D' They held the top rushing teams at the time  to minimal yardage. Ferrum got a a total of a little more than 200 yrds.  O against them and alomst 100 of that was on 2 plays. Salisbury didn't get 100 yrds rushing against them.  The passing game is something to see.  Overall Wesley has a lot of team speed and the hit hard and tackle well.
  And this Lee kid catches everything he touches.   
 
  And if you have ever been to Dover anbrgr I don't think they woiuld classify themselves YANKEES!!!
Quote from: abnrgr on November 21, 2005, 02:28:02 PM
have to agree with Narch-
like to see Wesley go on but there will not be many teams left that will put the ball on the ground like Ferrum did and have a porous secondary. I think Wesley gets whacked this week. Unless somebody gets "fumblelitis". They are Yankess anyway ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 21, 2005, 08:03:58 PM
I have a few things to say now that the season is over for USAC fans. I have really enjoyed this message board over the last couple of years but I have to say that I am sick of the back and forth bitching and whining between a select few (you know who you are). You guys have made the board miserable at times. I hope that the moderators pay closer attention to this next year. When other readers/posters have to weed through pages of you guys bitching, it takes away from the experience. Maybe next year we can get back to football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2005, 08:36:46 PM
Thanks, TC -- I do definitely keep an eye on it and occasionally ponder doing more than just removing individual posts.

Your note on the subject should serve as a warning to those responsible that their behavior does affect the entire board.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 21, 2005, 09:12:01 PM
And if you have ever been to Dover anbrgr I don't think they woiuld classify themselves YANKEES!!! from PA WES FAN

Well yes I have been to Wesley. I got some paint on my helmet up there in 1976. Yes they are some hat bringing fools no doubt.
I wish them luck

Of course if you were in long enough you probably passed thru with a friend or two

They are north of Nashville so.......... ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 21, 2005, 09:21:27 PM
Seriously PA FAN they have a great team and they have a history of winning over the years but that bracket is a little tough.

They always hit you that's a given but with Ferrum's recent lack of playoff experience they should have beat those Panthers (played them too).

Not to bemoan a point but the intensity will pick up and hopefully....anyway I was pulling for MC to get to the show
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 22, 2005, 08:35:56 AM
tc/pat and the rest of the board - i apologize for my part in this childish behavior and the back-and-forth...i have tried to drop it, but i have this bad habit of always wanting to have the last word - it's not one of my best traits  :-[ - i purposefully did not respond to cnu85's post to try and let this whole thing finally die - i will do my part to make this about football (or other sports in the spring/summer) from here forward
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 22, 2005, 10:00:01 AM
Look I apologize for the lengthy back and forths about nothing...It's tough for me to sit here and say nothing when people are tearing my name down.  I like to be the one who does that with immature post  :D. 

And in the end my friendthis board will all be together agian...until preseason midseason and championship time. 

GoodMorning GoodAfternoon and Goodnight
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 22, 2005, 05:03:27 PM
Harmony...I love it!!

That was the purpose of my last post - to try to diffuse the stuff going on here. Sometimes things get read entirely different than how they were written. It's hard to "read" into body language, sarcasm, etc.

Narch - I was just trying to say that I didn't feel that CNU had higher standards than anyone else - just higher when compared to previous years at CNU....then offered some personal info that would help you understand me a little better...that's all, no more no less. Or maybe, I was just jealous about you having all those things you mentioned.....wait I have all that too....except I don't have a home theatre system or NFL ticket. hmmm....that's a good start to my christmas list.

And I even put the olive branch out to Mosh by saying I liked his last post.

piece...oops...I mean peace  -  ;D - humor!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 22, 2005, 05:07:17 PM
CNU85
    You are officially an idiot.  See you tonight.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 22, 2005, 05:30:56 PM
Narch - just saw your message...thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on November 22, 2005, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on November 22, 2005, 05:07:17 PM
CNU85
    You are officially an idiot.  See you tonight.

An idiot?? If I make it to the game tonight look out!! When you're reading stats at halftime I'm gonna sneak up behind you and beeotch slap you back upstairs!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 22, 2005, 05:38:44 PM
Well I am glad that is settled on this board. I have nothing to apologize for except I am always wrong. SO there ;)

Anyway what does the recruiting picture look like for a QB at MC Narchington? Besides what I see here.

You know MC55 it has been 60 here the last couple of days but I still have perma frost in the back yard from the first snow
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on November 22, 2005, 06:26:22 PM
Hey hey hey becareful now!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 22, 2005, 06:51:38 PM
abnrgr: I would never make it there, I have stayed near the beach way to long!

Congrats to Chris Roncketti and Billy Delapp on making the East Coast Bowl!

Also a few other players from the Conf, and a Guilford guy in there. Good work guys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 22, 2005, 07:04:29 PM
I hate to bring this up again but I was in the head today at the Station and I picked up the US News and World Report (not one of my normal readings but it happened to be laying in the floor  ;D) and the first page I flipped to had a listing for most and least amount of debt aquired by students of the nation's Universities and College's.  Having aquired my fair share of debt while at MC it caught my interest.  CNU had the second lowest aquired debt by students for any liberal arts college at 8 grand and some change.  No real point to posting this...I just found it interesting.

On another note...are they still playing the East Coast Bowl in Petersburg VA.  If they are I hope the weather is better than it was in the mud bogg we played in.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 22, 2005, 10:39:05 PM
Quote from: cnu85 on November 22, 2005, 05:03:27 PMexcept I don't have ....NFL ticket. hmmm....that's a good start to my christmas list

do yourself a favor and plop down the cash for sunday ticket...it's worth EVERY penny - my brother does HIGH END sound systems and put ours in...maybe i could get you the family discount (twice the price) :)

papi - careful, careful...that's a slippery slope you're walking on :)

mc55ol - beat me too it, but here is the link (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/eastcoastbowl.htm) - glad to see those guys will play one more game

abnrgr - we're banking on your boy out in CO to start the next 4 years :) - i'm sure the coaches are working all of the academy's as we speak...an air force transfer qb might be a nice fit...swing by while you're in the area and see if there are any who are unhappy with pt - of course, judging by vogelbach's success, maybe we should go to ecu...they do have a pine forest grad who will probably NEVER play a down at qb for them who was ahead of vogelbach on the depth chart...hmmm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 22, 2005, 11:04:53 PM
Narch
Papi ain't walking anywhere. his butt is hanging on the rail of that cutter in a "Noreaster suuuun" (said with a East Carteret accent) " "One eyed mullet suuunn".

All the QBs except one are big gangly pocket guys that do not fit MC style of play. Or they do not have it between the ears to run that O.


THe AF academy is wasting the one they got now.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 22, 2005, 11:52:11 PM
abnrgr....you've obviously spent some time in my hometown, Harkers Island to know sayings like that.  But I tell'ye...I was on that thar 25' RBS in middle of a mullet blow last night suuun!  Thanks, rgr...that reminded me I needed to call home....gotta get the tin can with the string attached out of the closet! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 23, 2005, 01:07:18 AM
yes papi, they are playing the game in petersburg virginia still.

Mc55, hey man some things are starting to shap-up with the whole playing still. You know i never knew how hard it was goin to be to just quit and drop the sport i have played all my life, so i am going to try out for the team in asheville. I am lookin forward to it......... Question, im sure it is a little harder only having three more downlineman, but how is the speed of the game. HAHA, just thought about this but i sound like a new recruit, lol. starting over again! But n-e-ways whenever you get a shot, just holler at me on here or something. Latre buddy!

Narch, so from an outside point of view, how do the monarchs fair next year with a very, very young team? This sounds weird to ask, usually im readin gwhat people say about us, now imasking the questions! thanks buddy
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 23, 2005, 08:35:49 AM
Quote from: MCol51 on November 23, 2005, 01:07:18 AMNarch, so from an outside point of view, how do the monarchs fair next year with a very, very young team? This sounds weird to ask, usually im readin gwhat people say about us, now imasking the questions! thanks buddy
gotta have a qb step up, either from inside the program or outside the program - that qb will have plenty of weapons at wr/rb and a very good ol (despite loosing you and delapp...i think alexander can be a very good tackle, and coach f will get a center/guard to step up) - the defense could be better - certainly losing jean-claude, pope and  hyslop at lb and roberts at de will hurt, but there are some pretty solid lb's in the program and i'm sure finding some dl's will be a priority - no offense to d-linemen, but you can step in and play as a frosh on the dl if you're big and athletic...that's not the case on the ol, in my opinion - finding those big, athletic dl's is the tough part, but i like what i saw this year out of northern, hayden and merritt, especially in passing situations (which tends to be the trend on offense right now) - there is a TON of talent returning on the back-end of the defense and if some of those dl's can get a little bigger and stronger, this could be the makings of a very solid defense - overall, i think the monarchs will be picked 4th in the pre-season poll, behind fc, au and cnu but they could surprise and win the thing outright if the pieces fall into place
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 23, 2005, 12:49:27 PM
Ferrum...LINFIELD has open dates the next couple of years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 23, 2005, 12:52:54 PM
Mcol51: The speed is unreal, in the AIFL you have to play both ways though. If you make one mistake your in trouble! Dont get me wrong it is fun, but you have to bring your A game every snap.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 23, 2005, 01:30:24 PM
narch, good points in there man, i just hope they have a lot of the people coming back and do not decide to transfer somewhere else. this is always a problem here at methodist,  but i think they will stick together and stay hopefully. I actually think the QB position will have competition next year between burch, buseick, and schultz. All three of these have something different to bring to the game so it could be a shootout between the qbs next year. Burch got hurt this year or he would have been the backup i do believe. he is smart, and has an arm to fit the ball where it needs to be, only thing is he is young. Schultz has a tremenous arm and makes some pretty good decisions back there, and also he is calm. He came into the salisbury game and was calm and collected and didnt at nervous so this willbe a plus. he just needs some good mental work and he will be fine. Buseick is the option man, good speed and excellen decision maker. so all these will help and make it hard for coach E.

Mc55, thanks man i appreciate it. You know i think, i will give it a shot i am goin up there for thnaksgiving and i might go by and find some things out on friday. they will be there setting up the field inside the civic center.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 23, 2005, 01:49:43 PM
Papi
Spent alot of time down there. When we had open dates (back in the 70's) we would go to the Mullet Bucket because we would play them next back to back for the conference championship ther next 2 games. West (snobs) being last.

Our old principle Hoyt Hayes lived down thar and let me tellr suuun...he was a wild man.  :)

Damr suuun
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 23, 2005, 02:44:10 PM
Quote from: MCol51 on November 23, 2005, 01:30:24 PMI actually think the QB position will have competition next year between burch, buseick, and schultz. All three of these have something different to bring to the game so it could be a shootout between the qbs next year.

i wish i could be as confident as you are...i haven't seen any of them throw a pass...i understand that situations didn't dictate getting them into games and throwing the ball (close games or blowouts where you just want to bleed clock), but it would have been nice - schultz looked good throwing on the sidelines and in warm ups all season, and he handed off to matthews VERY WELL in the su game :)  ;)  :D  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballjoe on November 23, 2005, 02:55:34 PM
How is MC's tight end Huddleston's knee healing? Will he be ready for next season?  Did he have surgery to repair the damage? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 23, 2005, 03:06:11 PM
Narch
MC's offense needs a thrower from I've seen but they also need that guy (ala Ronketti) that breaks contain which creates lanes. Wheels my man wheels...............Am I off here?

I guess you know Papi is from a place where they beat you up if you're not from around there ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 23, 2005, 04:57:01 PM
abnrgr - the offense is a shotgun spread...there is a LITTLE option mixed in, but not much - wheels are def. preferred - nobody wants a statue back there...if the qb doesn't have some wheels, the ol may give up 12-15 sacks instead of 5 and defending a guy that can break contain makes a defense less aggressive - smarts are critical, too - making the right reads and decisions in this offense is the difference between a big play and a negative play, even in the run game - this offense is LIGHT YEARS from that psuedo wing t the monarchs ran last year - is this enough info for you to go out and find us a difference maker from the mountains of CO?

the great thing for the mc qb next year is that sands, mularski, robinson, howard and doleman all return at wr...they're the best group of 5 wr's in the conference...3 starters (5 who played quite a bit) return on the ol...and of course mike hill at rb - the qb next year for the monarchs shouldn't have to win games (as rocket did), but rather get the ball to playmakers in position to make plays and avoid turnovers...easier said than done if you've never played a snap of significant time in college BUT if the mc qb can do that, i think the ol, wr's and rb's will win games until the qb can become a playmaker, as well
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 23, 2005, 08:58:51 PM
abn...yea, they open the bridge and never let you off!

I don't know Narch...the right OL can protect any QB...I wasn't anything close being called a running QB (unless I was running to the buffett bar) in college but my junior year I think the line gave up 5 or 6 sacks.  I think it had something to do w/ the oline being proud to protect a QB who was just a fat as them  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 23, 2005, 09:01:56 PM
Papi: What no comment on my pass pro my freshman yr?!?!? I see how it is, hahaha.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 23, 2005, 10:08:04 PM
I could comment but I doubt you'd want me to ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 23, 2005, 11:30:55 PM
papi - you know as well as i do that the monarch o line isn't any good and gives up so few sacks because the qb does nothing more than throw on 3 step drops and he runs around so much...it's all scheme and not players (or so finest would have you beleive :)) - those boys up front have been REALLY GOOD since funderburk took over

speaking of fat...i'm gonna throw down some food over the next 96 hours...hope everyone has a good t-day!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 24, 2005, 01:40:34 PM
Happy Thanksgivings

In our day think about the ones who are somewhere else making it possible for us to be where we are. The Infantryman standing out front, the Coast Guardsman boarding a ship in 20 ft seas, the sailor standind his watch, the Marine and the pilot.

RLTW!

Sorry for the repeat
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 24, 2005, 04:25:51 PM
Papi: I will be the first one to admit I wasnt the best pass blocker my freshman yr!!! Then again, I am pretty sure i wasnt cut out to play every position on the oline in one game either!!

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 24, 2005, 07:11:13 PM
MC55 you know I tried to get you in the starting lineup your whole freshman year...for some reason Nelson didn't like you...probably because I wanted you on the line and he hated me.   

Hope everyone has had a wonderful Turkey Day! 

ABNRGR...we got lucky today....they were only about 10-15 footers and a Russian crew...they are always the most fun to deal with!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 25, 2005, 03:55:12 PM
Papi: He didnt care for me either, But i still started 36 of 40 games. Then again they did try and make me play full back behind Brumbles to start the year! Hope your Thanksgiving was good.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 27, 2005, 11:47:26 AM
The year of the Wolverine.


Anybody in here ever saw red dawn?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 27, 2005, 06:08:46 PM
Mosh
I cannot get that Charlie Sheen scene out of my head when he yells "WOLVERINE". Bwana mentioned it too now I..aaahhhhhh

Where you been
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 27, 2005, 08:35:29 PM
Who follows the ODAC board anyway?


Looks like the quakers are getting better offensively though...Did they renounce the pink hair attitude?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 28, 2005, 09:57:40 AM
With a raised fist ... WOLVERINNNNNNNNNESSSSSSSS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 28, 2005, 12:04:57 PM
If you're going to sling mud, prepare to get dirty, narch.

GO CAPS!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 28, 2005, 01:35:18 PM
Quote from: swish3 on November 28, 2005, 12:04:57 PM
If you're going to sling mud, prepare to get dirty, narch.
GO CAPS!

dead topic...move on

my favorite scene from red dawn was when they filled the radiator...not sure why that scene has always stuck in my head, but every time jiffy lube asks me if i want my fluids topped off, i think of someone taking a whiz into my radiator
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 28, 2005, 02:47:34 PM
rocket - how did things go at the east coast bowl this weekend?  did you get much burn?  how did you play?  i went to the website, but it's impossible to get any information other than the roster
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on November 28, 2005, 03:32:50 PM
Narch: I talked to Rocket, he said he played pretty well, but they had 3 Qbs on his team. He had a td on his 1st play  from about 50 yrds out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on November 28, 2005, 07:07:52 PM
Narch
We had 3 qbs so we went 2 series at a time.  I went 5-9 134 yds 1 td 1 int.  The first play I was in went for a 60 yard TD.  The most any other qb had was 88 yds passing.  I had a lot of fun this season, and I am just proud to say I played at Methodist. 
Next year MC will be tough with a ton of jrs and srs.  The QB will be solid with several guys fighting for that spot.  Any of them will be a good replacement, and I wouldn't be surprised if the starter has a better year than I did.  I just hope I can see a few games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 28, 2005, 08:03:37 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 27, 2005, 08:35:29 PM
Who follows the ODAC board anyway?


Looks like the quakers are getting better offensively though...Did they renounce the pink hair attitude?
Mosh - Exactly what do you mean by this question?  ???  Signed, a Guilford alumnus, soccer letter winner and football fan
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 28, 2005, 08:15:29 PM
I was messing with abngr?

Signed a Greensboro College Alumnus, Football letter eater and fooseball enthusiast.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 28, 2005, 08:39:21 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 28, 2005, 08:15:29 PM
I was messing with abngr?

Signed a Greensboro College Alumnus, Football letter eater and fooseball enthusiast.
I thought so.  I was just messing with you, too.  lol  When were you at Greensboro?  My neighbor across the cul-de-sac played lacrosse there in early 90's.   Signed, a Quaker fan who's seen his share of pink-haired women (and men, now that you mention it) on the Guilford campus.  If a few of them can play football defense next year, I don't care if their hair is fuchsia.  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 28, 2005, 08:41:21 PM
Quote from: rocket on November 28, 2005, 07:07:52 PM
Narch
We had 3 qbs so we went 2 series at a time.  I went 5-9 134 yds 1 td 1 int.  The first play I was in went for a 60 yard TD.  The most any other qb had was 88 yds passing.  I had a lot of fun this season, and I am just proud to say I played at Methodist. 
Next year MC will be tough with a ton of jrs and srs.  The QB will be solid with several guys fighting for that spot.  Any of them will be a good replacement, and I wouldn't be surprised if the starter has a better year than I did.  I just hope I can see a few games.
Rocket, how did Corey Haase (Guilford) do?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 28, 2005, 09:00:22 PM
rocket - sounds like a pretty productive day, especially for throwing just 9 balls - thanks for the info!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 29, 2005, 10:22:59 AM
Hasonaova I was Class of 2003.

Advice, Since you hail from Guilford you have to be careful when you say things like you have seen your fair share of pink haired woman and men.  But Im messing with you.  Im friends with a few former Quaker players.  One night one of them got so blasted he decided to urinate on the floor of a bar.  Good guys those quakers, although they dont always do the right thing.

And so it goes.
Big Game tonight for my Jv Girls BBall team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 29, 2005, 11:07:46 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 29, 2005, 10:22:59 AM
Hasonaova I was Class of 2003.

Advice, Since you hail from Guilford you have to be careful when you say things like you have seen your fair share of pink haired woman and men.  But Im messing with you.  Im friends with a few former Quaker players.  One night one of them got so blasted he decided to urinate on the floor of a bar.  Good guys those quakers, although they dont always do the right thing.

And so it goes.
Big Game tonight for my Jv Girls BBall team.

Well, alcohol has caused all sorts of "indiscretions" for longer than I've been around.  I could tell you some stories .... lol  I graduated from Guilford before you were born, so I've seen some good - and, sadly, a lot of bad - Quaker football.  The team and the fans are excited that we had an offense this year and hope that'll continue next season.  As evidenced by some of the scores this year - including the 36-35 Greensboro game - the "D" needs some work.  lol

With regard to the "pink" hair, Guilford has a reputation for having "more than a few" students that "march to a different drummer."  It was true 35 years ago and it's still true now.  Most folks affiliated with Guilford, including me, have a live and let live attitude about it.  If you don't, you'd never be able to make it there. 

Except for the Soup Bowl, of course, I hope Greensboro football snaps back in '06.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 29, 2005, 12:08:27 PM
Just wanted to let you know, hot shot.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 01, 2005, 12:49:25 AM
MOsh
Hell son you can mess with me l day. I left my feelings in the car. You know I was at MASS the other day and said a prayer for the misguided ones at GC,. May they all grow up working for Haliburton ;) Ahhh the ever tighening Gordian knot of capitolism.     I barely see this board so see you guys tommorrow. You too Hasa

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 01, 2005, 12:08:18 PM
Abngr,
  Im not Catholic but I have been to one mass in my lifetime.  It was easter and the girl I was with was wearing one hellov an easter best.  Anyways the Priest Slung some water in some old lady's eye and I about lost it.   Guess you had to be thur. 

Any spots in Haliburton for a disgruntled teacher?  I hail from GC toooo.  Only we arent pacifist. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on December 01, 2005, 12:34:17 PM
abnrgr & mosh -

I was brought up as a Baptist, went to the Presbyterian Church for Vacation Bible School because they had the best cookies, attended Methodist Youth Fellowship because their girls were cuter, graduated from a Quaker College, did a eulogy at an African Methodist Episcopal funeral, dated a Unitarian, danced at bar (and bat) mitzvahs, bought my neighbor's kid a gift for her first Catholic communion, visited a Shinto temple in Japan, gave the Salvation Army a donation, attended a football game at Tennessee and basketball games at Duke (trust me, they are religious experiences) and have a brother who is a Lutheran minister.  I'm trying to cover all my ecumenical bases, but so far it hasn't helped.  lol  So, I'll take a prayer from anywhere I can get it!  :)

PS God help me for writing this post!  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: upandcoming on December 03, 2005, 07:39:26 PM
hey whats up everybody, I know everybody at the Ole MC is worried about the quarterback position next year but I will and can say this dont worry about it. Any quarterback can and will succeed next year because of the dynamic playmakers we have on offense and deffense. so next year I think we just maybe setup to take another shot at the title, and maybe a playoff spot as well if we get our work done in the offseason.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 04, 2005, 11:51:05 AM
that is very comforting, thank you very much!

Year of the Wolverine
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on December 06, 2005, 05:56:02 PM
I was baptized and confirmed Catholic, saved at a roller skating rink by a Baptist when I was 10, married in a Methodist church and now I'm a Deacon in a Presbyterian church....I hope it helps!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on December 06, 2005, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on December 01, 2005, 12:08:18 PM
Abngr,
  Im not Catholic but I have been to one mass in my lifetime.  It was easter and the girl I was with was wearing one hellov an easter best.  Anyways the Priest Slung some water in some old lady's eye and I about lost it.   Guess you had to be thur. 


Hey 85,
The real question for Mosh would be: "Did she play the Organ that day?"  :o :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 06, 2005, 10:41:09 PM
untasteful but she played with some organs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on December 06, 2005, 10:51:23 PM
I see Mosh,

That girl couldn't dance but boy she could play the organ with the best of em'!

It was like "Thanks East bunny, bock,bock!"  ;)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 07, 2005, 01:33:39 AM
Ahhhh........LLama the organ thing is why you are my hero. You have a personality.

Is Skoal still alive and coherent now? ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on December 07, 2005, 05:25:30 PM
Skoal is dead and coherent!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on December 07, 2005, 05:26:38 PM
how many pernts will Wesley score this weekend?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 07, 2005, 07:17:03 PM
35
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on December 08, 2005, 05:23:02 PM
ok...the over/under for Mosh is 35....I was thinking 43, but after a little thought (very little) the teams are supposed to be tougher now and defense usually gets you this far....so I'll go with Mosh at 35.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on December 10, 2005, 09:38:43 AM
congrats to all the usasac players on the all-region team (http://www.d3football.com/all-region/2005_d3football_all-south_region.pdf), highlighted by wilson from au as a 1st team rb - ferrum had 4 players on the 3 teams (silk, michaelson and bowyer were 2nd team), cnu had 2 (rodriguez 2nd team, wood 3rd team) and mc had one (delapp, 3rd team) and m'ville had one, also (townsend, 2nd team)

i HOPED that rocket might get some love, but this is a TOUGH region for a qb to get recognized in...too many guys putting up HUGE numbers in the passing game and the intangible are tough to quantify
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 12, 2005, 12:54:49 PM
FROM NArch  "HOPED that rocket might get some love, but this is a TOUGH region for a qb to get recognized in...too many guys putting up HUGE numbers in the passing game and the intangible are tough to quantify"

That's right my man INTANGIBLES . Everyone has been there. You look at a guy in the eye in a tight situation and you just know if you fail in your mission the guy died trying. I think that's what the Rocket had. The 3 times I saw him play live he was just a guy who got it done. He will make a great combat arms officer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu85 on December 12, 2005, 09:41:14 PM
Mosh,

you and I weren't even close on the Wesley pernts!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 12, 2005, 10:06:58 PM
i know, I think it was the snow just like brokport beat them with the rain.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on December 13, 2005, 09:23:20 AM
Wood Earns First Team All-America

WACO, TX - Christopher Newport senior linebacker Justin Wood was named First Team All-America by the American Football Coaches Association Tuesday morning.

Wood becomes the second First Team All-American in the program's history, following Tommy Fitzgerald's selection in 2004.

Wood, a Hampton, VA native, led the Captains in tackles for the fourth straight season. He finished with 38 solo and 53 assisted tackles for a total of 91. He also had 8 tackles for a loss of 46 yards including 2.5 sacks for 33 yards and three fumble recoveries.

Wood also became the second player in school history to play in the Aztec Bowl. The game is scheduled for Saturday, Dec. 17 in Toluca, Mexico. You can listen to the game live or visit the Aztec Bowl's website for more information. He was a First Team All-USA South selection and a Third Team All-South choice by D3football.com.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 14, 2005, 06:48:41 PM
And Congrats..

  Hey Abngr, Is the state department looking for any wedge breakers in the mercinary department?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bwana on December 14, 2005, 07:25:16 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on December 06, 2005, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on December 01, 2005, 12:08:18 PM
Abngr,
  Im not Catholic but I have been to one mass in my lifetime.  It was easter and the girl I was with was wearing one hellov an easter best.  Anyways the Priest Slung some water in some old lady's eye and I about lost it.   Guess you had to be thur. 


Hey 85,
The real question for Mosh would be: "Did she play the Organ that day?"  :o :o

Just when you think things are going to quiet down for Christmas, Das Llama lights it up!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 15, 2005, 01:12:01 AM
Naw Mosh State don't work that way. Hell they don't do nothing except to screw us. Most have gone native and see or should I say "feel the pain" of their host nations. Losers. The Rangers do have some spots for door kickers,. That would be Hooah! Well until you get shot in the face. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 16, 2005, 06:09:42 PM
Just watched the fog of war with my kids in class today...Kindov shows you what goes on inside the departments of state...Sometimes they know and sometimes they dont...Anyways...Im rooting for Wisconsin tommorow even though im not partial to purple.


Salem is near Roanoke?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bwana on December 17, 2005, 10:25:43 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on December 16, 2005, 06:09:42 PM
Just watched the fog of war with my kids in class today...Kindov shows you what goes on inside the departments of state...Sometimes they know and sometimes they dont...Anyways...Im rooting for Wisconsin tommorow even though im not partial to purple.


Salem is near Roanoke?
I believe the city limits of one run smack against the city limits of the other...
Title: Re: Greensboro College
Post by: D3Newbie on December 20, 2005, 05:56:05 PM

How does the GC QB position look for 2006? I know they lost their senior QB and they evidently have an awesome freshman receiver . . . . can they turn around a 1-9 season?  :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 21, 2005, 07:12:01 AM
Can and Will....but Im getting to old to know anything about the youngsters in the program.

I heard they had some humungus recruits with blazing speed though....They are suppose to be amazing ball players.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 23, 2005, 12:56:46 AM
Men, have a good Christmas. Papi I know you will be on watch for all of us.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 29, 2005, 03:38:07 AM
Youse guys get hit by a school bus? Jeez louise.........Papi has the face of Sicliy on his mug
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 01, 2006, 05:51:58 PM
Best wishes on the new year...!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on January 02, 2006, 04:49:31 PM
ABNRGR....you know I was out there...I did manage to find a way to get New Years off although I don't remember much about it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on January 02, 2006, 09:48:54 PM
"The beatings will continue until morale improves!"

Very true
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 06, 2006, 09:40:03 PM
col 55,
  I think my stepdads team just added a monarch grad to the staff at overhills high school...Im pretty sure he was a linebacker for yall...

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on January 08, 2006, 05:19:49 PM
O yeah? Any idea on his name?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on January 11, 2006, 02:47:24 PM
birdman, how are things treating you up in the Oak?  Talked to Foster lately...looks like he's gonna come over to the dark side and join the CG.  I just hope they can find a uniform big enough for him :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on January 11, 2006, 03:14:18 PM
DD,

Things are going pretty good at the Oak, now that we have had some time to work with the guys. I tried calling Foster the other day, got a voicemail. If he cant pull you from a boat, nobody can!! Good luck finding him a shirt that fits though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on January 13, 2006, 11:27:13 PM
MC55 Papi narch

Score!!!!!!!!
Got tickets to Denver- New England. As I said on the ODAC board look for us at the 10 yd line with a white encrusted Quacker hat
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 15, 2006, 09:33:47 PM
underwood is his name...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on January 16, 2006, 09:40:58 AM
ABN, I thought I saw a neked guy down around the 10 yrd line....Must have been cold in Denver Saturday night  ;D.  I'm just glad I don't have to hear about Tom Brady anymore this year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 16, 2006, 10:16:58 AM
how about the colts choking....seems like every team i wanted to go on this past weekend failed.  Its been a tough year in that department....

I was coaching my girls basketball game friday and we had a five point lead with two minutes left.  The other team was not well coached well at all and my girls just stunk it up.   We ended up losing by five.  Coaching girls is the worst exp ever!

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 16, 2006, 11:11:31 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on January 16, 2006, 10:16:58 AM
how about the colts choking....seems like every team i wanted to go on this past weekend failed.  Its been a tough year in that department....

I was coaching my girls basketball game friday and we had a five point lead with two minutes left.  The other team was not well coached well at all and my girls just stunk it up.   We ended up losing by five.  Coaching girls is the worst exp ever!

Roll Pride
Where do you coach, Mosh?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 16, 2006, 12:43:10 PM
Northern Nash High School...Rocky Mount NC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 16, 2006, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on January 16, 2006, 12:43:10 PM
Northern Nash High School...Rocky Mount NC
I've been to Rocky Mount, NC and Nash County, but not NNHS.  Thanks - I was just curious.  Good luck the rest of the season!

By the way, I'm already looking forward to next season's Guilford/Greensboro game at Guilford.  I expect a lot of offensive fireworks again.  Go Quakers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 16, 2006, 03:42:15 PM
And im looking forward to the soup bowl being back in the real gc' fb teams hands...

Your offense is greatly improved since ive played...

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 16, 2006, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on January 16, 2006, 03:42:15 PM
And im looking forward to the soup bowl being back in the real gc' fb teams hands...

Your offense is greatly improved since ive played...
Well, no "offense" to past Quaker players or coaches, but Kiesel and Vogelbach have shaken things up.  It looks like the QB and all the Receivers will be back next year, so the psssing offense looks good on paper.   I'm sure Kiesel is spending the offseason trying to establish a running attack to balance the passing and shoring up some spots in the Defense.  I hope your GC Pride has some better success next year - it's good for both programs to have winning records.   I look forward to seeing both teams with no losses when they meet some day.  Personally, I'd like to see them fill the Grimsley stadium (10,000) for a game.  Since it's for charity and city bragging rights, I really wish the Greensboro (city) fans would turn out more than they do.       
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 16, 2006, 06:11:04 PM
Filling the venue would be tough since both schools total enrollement combined is about 2-3000 students.  Not saying it couldnt happen, it just wont happen until both teams do something nationally (even then it would be a longshot)....Not saying it couldnt happen though.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 16, 2006, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on January 16, 2006, 06:11:04 PM
Filling the venue would be tough since both schools total enrollement combined is about 2-3000 students.  Not saying it couldnt happen, it just wont happen until both teams do something nationally (even then it would be a longshot)....Not saying it couldnt happen though.
Yeah, I know what you mean.  I was quite happy they had 3700+ in October last fall.  The price is right (cans of food) and it's for a good cause, so I really wish they could get some more locals to turn out in addition to the folks with connections to the colleges.  Last year was probably the most I have seen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 19, 2006, 08:40:52 AM
The headline that the Mariners or Kings Point, which is one of the five federal academies caught my eye.  They hire a dude named Foley as the defensive cordinator.  He really has to be one of the youngest cordinators at the college level regardless of division.  I just thought it was interesting that a college took a chance on someone so young.

Im trying to get some cordinator spots at the high school level and Im having trouble because of my age.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on January 19, 2006, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on January 19, 2006, 08:40:52 AM
The headline that the Mariners or Kings Point, which is one of the five federal academies caught my eye.  They hire a dude named Foley as the defensive cordinator.  He really has to be one of the youngest cordinators at the college level regardless of division.  I just thought it was interesting that a college took a chance on someone so young.

Im trying to get some cordinator spots at the high school level and Im having trouble because of my age.

so how old is this youthful Foley phenom?  And what is his background?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on January 20, 2006, 08:53:38 AM
Mosh, I don't believe Kings Point is one of the federal academies (USMA, USAF, USNA, and USCGA are the only ones I know of)  I could be wrong but I believe Kings Point is just like Mass maritime or any other maritime academy.  Maybe Pat knows for sure.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 20, 2006, 10:02:40 AM
Olinemom,
  I didnt really check his age but if he was playing in 2004 and spent one year as a coach then he is probally like 24 or 25.

Admiral,
   My stepbrother went to Kings Point.  I saw Tom Ridge give the keynote at the graduation.  Im 100% sure that it is federally funded and one of five.  Not a very fun place to be in college though!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on January 21, 2006, 02:49:19 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on January 20, 2006, 10:02:40 AM
Olinemom,
  I didnt really check his age but if he was playing in 2004 and spent one year as a coach then he is probally like 24 or 25.

Admiral,
   My stepbrother went to Kings Point.  I saw Tom Ridge give the keynote at the graduation.  Im 100% sure that it is federally funded and one of five.  Not a very fun place to be in college though!

24-25  That's pretty impressive.  Almost John Grudin-like.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on January 21, 2006, 09:47:12 AM
Mosh, I see what you are saying.  I thought you were saying Kings Point was one of the service academies.  I can definitely say from experience that going to any service academy is not a fun place to be.  Six months of CGA was enough for me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on January 21, 2006, 07:09:52 PM
Papi
You know you loved being smitted around the clock.

If you got in the academy you're a lot smarter than you look.  ;) I did not know you were a rocket scientist....a requirement to an academy. I'm sincerly impressed.

Gosh darner suuuunn.....one oyed trouseeeer trout suuuunn.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on January 22, 2006, 09:03:11 AM
ABN, I was smart enough to get away from that place.

Yea, the language barrier was a problem for me up there...apparently they all spoke english and I spoke Harkonese ;) Did allow me to cuss them out without them knowing though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on January 23, 2006, 01:48:51 AM
Yea but I speak it too which allows me to move "in and out of thar dammerr" without getting beat up. I should see if the State Department could use me as a mole in Harkers Island "suuunn" "God damer mullet suuun"

Now let me this straight....you are commanding a "fast boat" as PO so you do exactly what you want? Man you got it made.

you need to get on one those 90 footers where the Os can torture you ;)

You got a bald header late 40's corpsman (real life a nurse) named ED probably a PO still stationed down there or did he get caught planking somebody elses....(got to keep the board Nazi off me here) lady. Yea ladys good
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on January 23, 2006, 01:49:39 PM
ABN, yea its rough having a 25' boat with 450 pony's and being able to take it and do pretty much what I want with it.  The best part is the four seats inside the cabin have neumatic shocks in them to soften the blows from the 6-8 footers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 25, 2006, 03:39:34 PM
Coaching Girls Basketball is a nightmare...

I feel really bad for the future husbands..


Im taking a class at NC Wes this semester...D
Does that make me a Bishop?


Nahhhhhh, Roll Pride...For LIFE!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on January 25, 2006, 11:31:12 PM
Mosh...I feel your pain...I used to coach my little sister's 8-10 year old girls basketball team.  I spent half the time laughing my butt off and the other half wanting to run head first through a brick wall.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 26, 2006, 10:29:22 AM
I can relate with Mr Knight at Texas Tech.  I never understood why the man had to throw chairs...That picture seems much clearer now.  Dang my head hurts ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on January 26, 2006, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on January 06, 2006, 09:40:03 PM
col 55,
  I think my stepdads team just added a monarch grad to the staff at overhills high school...Im pretty sure he was a linebacker for yall...

mosh - if that's craig underwood, he's a pretty bright guy...don't know if he can coach a lick, but he's smart - overhills is a pretty nice school in a not-so-nice part of town (spring lake...kinda like a smaller version of jacksonville, nc without the beach :)) - it's a relatively new school, but i wouldn't be surprised to see overhills get pretty solid soon...there is some good hs football in cumberland county, and there are some good athletes in the overhills district
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on January 26, 2006, 03:08:49 PM
Mosh, it has to be Craig. He is a good guy, and he knows the game of football. He will be a good addition their program.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 26, 2006, 05:19:36 PM
He stepped into a really good situation at a great time at that school.  A few years ago they had an undefeated team that my step dad coached.  He is now the Def Cord but I he mentioned that he may let alot of the calls come from up in the booth this year (that means your boy will have a big role as a first year coach)  Doesnt get much better than that!

Recruiting news out of Gboro...They aquired a 4-10 running back out of hawaii...The kid surfs like a maniac and runs the forty in 3.95 flat....Good luck catching him monarchs...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 26, 2006, 05:20:05 PM
how do i put a pic up on this thing?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on January 30, 2006, 12:15:30 AM

i heard gboro picked up some new Qb transfer - - - any news on that?  ???

don't think he's from hawaii - somewhere in the midwest i think
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jamnqb10 on February 01, 2006, 04:00:20 PM
How about some love for Hank Norton.  One of the newest members of the Virginia State Sports Hall of Fame.  Great Guy, Great coach, Great story teller.  One hell of a fisherman.  Hank put ferrum on the map in smaller college football.  Love Ya coach!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on February 01, 2006, 04:51:34 PM

ferrum?  what's a ferrum?   ???


congrats to norton - - or to anyone that can put a ferrum on the map!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 01, 2006, 09:49:57 PM
Newbie,
  The only recruit i have heard about is the kiwi state kid
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on February 02, 2006, 04:33:02 PM
Narch, anything new going on in Monarch camp?  Is Coach Sy out patrolling military academy's looking for his next QB or do we have one in house that is going to be able to fill Rocket's shoes (that's gonna be tough).

ABN...where ya been?  You didn't get drunk and get lost in the Rocky's did you?  You would have loved to been with us the other day.  We had a m240 shoot about 10 miles offshore in 8-10 footers. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 03, 2006, 08:14:10 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on February 02, 2006, 04:33:02 PM
Narch, anything new going on in Monarch camp? Is Coach Sy out patrolling military academy's looking for his next QB or do we have one in house that is going to be able to fill Rocket's shoes (that's gonna be tough).

you know the deal...recruiting, recruiting, recruiting - also, pretty high turnout in weight room work, from what i understand...not as many guys running "jv track" as there have been in the past, so they are spending time with their football teammates - i think that will pay dividends down the road

as for the qb, the coaches feel pretty comfortable with the 2 guys in the system...neither is rocket, but both have some upside - schultz has a solid arm and makes good decisions with the ball, but isn't much of a threat to run - bartee can run and has a rifle, but that rifle misfires too often...should be good competetition this spring - bartee is probably a better fit for the offense, but i wouldn't be against schultz being the starter - it might be a situation similar to you and roundtree where the job is up in the air until someone says "that's my job...i'll take it" and doesn't let go for a few years
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 07, 2006, 12:13:42 AM
Paps
They got my ass hauled back and forth to DC. Christ......

Hate that town. What a target rich enviroment...om so many levels.

My old SGT MAJOR lost an arm in Iraq. Just got out of Walter Reed.

I have been looking for a way to start torturing LLama and Skola.

Kep her level damer suuunnnn!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 14, 2006, 05:25:19 PM
Tough stuff to handle in Iraq.

  Tough to get a job in Gboro these days..


Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 16, 2006, 03:08:56 PM
Monarchs
A return specialist is visiting MC from Colorado Springs this week. ONly a 4.6 40 but he is like a ping pong ball. I believe he will help his sophmore year as soon as he gets used to "college hats" being brought down on him  He needs about 15lbs and he will be dangerous.

I see everyone has been working this site hard. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on February 17, 2006, 03:07:13 PM
You know how this time of year goes, alot of ?s about whats going on with the teams.  Trying to get one of our guys up to old MC sure hope it works out for him.

READY READY MONARCHS
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on February 27, 2006, 09:32:25 AM
Wake up people.......this place is dead!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: eddie on February 27, 2006, 04:30:43 PM
you can find some recruits on rivals.com.  then link to your state under the highschoollink.  i know cnu is in virginia preps.com  u can find some free stuff but mostly u have to pay
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on February 28, 2006, 06:55:57 PM
JB how's it hanging in the Oak?

Narch, anything new going on in Monarch camp?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on February 28, 2006, 07:02:16 PM
Everything at the Oak is good. Trying to get things togather, heading back to fayetteville on Saturday. How are things in wimington?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 02, 2006, 12:52:07 AM
MC55 right.....did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.........
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 02, 2006, 06:18:16 PM
Looks like Douglas Byrd is looking for an assistant out in fayetnom.
Any body ever heard of them?
Are they any good?

I have been trying to get people to hire me as a Defensive cordinator...No luck yet...Somebody will give in.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on March 02, 2006, 06:59:50 PM
Mosher.....the oline coach there was one of my best friends in college. The head coach, and (i think he is the dc) were also coaches at methodist at one pt. Let me know if there is anything i can help you with.



Abnrgr "let him go....he is on a roll"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on March 02, 2006, 07:49:07 PM
Mosh, have you tried any of the schools around Wilmington?  I know a couple of MC grads have gotten jobs coaching around here.  There are quite a few schools in the area and with it being on the beach and near UNCW the scenery is outstanding  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 03, 2006, 08:16:17 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on March 02, 2006, 06:18:16 PM
Looks like Douglas Byrd is looking for an assistant out in fayetnom.
Any body ever heard of them?
Are they any good?

I have been trying to get people to hire me as a Defensive cordinator...No luck yet...Somebody will give in.


mosh - douglas byrd has traditionally been one of the best teams in the area when bob paroli coached there - paroli left before last year, i think, and they've got a couple of former monarchs on the staff - duane pelham is the hc (former monarch assistant coach) and stacy cook (former monarch o-lineman and assistant and one of abnrgr's all-time favorite guys) is a coordinator there (unless something has changed that i wasn't aware of) - i'm sure they'd look out for a fellow usasac/diac guy like yourself
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 03, 2006, 12:13:01 PM
Narch is right. Byrd used to dress out about 28-32 players on a regular basis and just drill people. They were some "hat bringing" fools.  Paroli is a legend in NC state football. If those Monarch coaches are there they will keep it going.

I believe Paroli platooned them even with the low numbers too. Nobody wanted to see them in the playoffs. Absolute hitters.

Narch you never answer my mail.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 03, 2006, 02:12:21 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on March 03, 2006, 12:13:01 PMNarch you never answer my mail.  ;)

papi - i haven't got any email from you?  did you send it to my addy linked in the profile or my work one?  send me a pm...i check this site almost every day (and most of the time 3 or 4 times a day)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 07, 2006, 02:38:06 PM
Narch
I finally had a bust. Does not look good for a specialist I recommended. Damn I never miss......

I hope Coach Eavenson finds a QB. Preferably a RS FR instead of a FR. Like Vogelbach over at GC.  Like to see him in Fayettenam slinging

So did they scrape up a FR or is there a diamond in the rough that was just awaiting Rocket's commissioning ceromony? ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 08, 2006, 07:46:56 PM
It looks like a Methodist convention in here. 

Somebody had to break it up.

Papi, I have a connect in the Wilmington area, I just havent dialed the number up yet..  I have been trying to get a Def Cord position but I might stay at northern nash (they offered me the head jv job/ varsity db coach)...It might not be bad for one more year...

anyways, hope everyone is doing well
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 08, 2006, 09:22:15 PM
Mosh
Those Knights still 4A or have they dropped due to a new school in the area? I like the atmoshere in that stadium at night. A little spooky
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 09, 2006, 09:19:57 AM
Lets talk about about that Pride because MOSH is getting postal.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 09, 2006, 08:52:27 PM
Abngr,
  We are 3A for the first time this past season.  I think it will stay that way unless our population goes way up.  Death Valley hasnt been a bad place to start.  The administration has been awesome to work for (probally couldnt have stepped into a more laid back atmosphere, nobody breathing down my neck) The only thing is that I have become a city slicker since I lived in Gboro and right now im living in the woods man. 

I really dont know much about the players at Gboro anymore.  It looks like they have a decent amount of athletes (from what I have seen stopping by and visiting friends).  I would be surprised if they repeated the dismal season we had this past year.


And Im out,

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 13, 2006, 04:56:49 AM
Since there's no USA South men's lacrosse, technically, I'll post here. Photo gallery of the Greensboro/Virginia Wesleyan game from Saturday:
http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=685
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 13, 2006, 11:13:49 AM
Papi
Any Nor easters suuun? What's the OPTEMPO these days? How many morons have you fished out this month?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on March 15, 2006, 02:11:20 AM
Interested in more info about the Pride . . my son just transferred there to play ball.

The OC sounds like someone with experience - what are others thoughts on Wright?

Also, how does the Pride defense look for this year?

Thanks!


GO PRIDE!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on March 15, 2006, 06:29:21 AM
ABNRGR we're having a Nor'easter right now.  Blowin' a gail...solid white chock on the water...making life miserbale.  OPTEMPO is well...wide open.  We don't do much SAR, most of our work is HLS but we have to pluck the occasional moron from the depths of the deep.  Just kinda fell into a case accidently about a week ago.  It took my 25' and a 47' MLB and two Helo's to get everyone off the boat before she went down. 
Are you still out in CO?  My old roommate just moved back out to Grand Junction.

Narch, how are Coach Sy and the boys doing? 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 15, 2006, 06:31:57 PM
D3 Newbie,

  Did I give you directions one day to Price Field???

 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on March 16, 2006, 02:06:02 AM
Mosh - probably . . .I only had to ask three different people, but the dude on the treadmill was the one that got me there . . . was that you?

If it was, it got me there, but the guys had decided not to throw that afternoon.  But thanks for the directions . . . knowing to turn at the porno shop really helped!!

I am hoping to get up there to watch some spring practice either this week or next. Have you heard anything about how they look so far? Also, what's the readout on the OC - can he help turn around the Pride Offense?

Too bad they can't be in pads - my son likes to hit.

Here's a old HS link: http://northcarolina.ihigh.com/0,1673,1_3_1_72152,00.html

Can't wait to get to watch him play this fall in person - didn't get to make any of the games he started in Missouri - just the videos.

BTW, when he was in HS he transferred his junior year to a school whose record was 3-28 and had not had a winning season in 16 years. They went 13-1, winning their conference, but losing in the finals, and he was team MVP.

Maybe history can repeat itself with the Pride - a conference championship would be nice in 2006!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 16, 2006, 08:11:01 AM
d3 newbie - you're boy looks like he's a baller...he'll have some solid weapons at wideout
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 16, 2006, 08:50:52 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on March 16, 2006, 02:06:02 AM
Mosh - probably . . .I only had to ask three different people, but the dude on the treadmill was the one that got me there . . . was that you?     If it was, it got me there, but the guys had decided not to throw that afternoon.  But thanks for the directions . . . knowing to turn at the porno shop really helped!!
Hey Mosh, do you use porno shops as landmarks every time you give directions?  Only kidding!   Hope the Pride has a much better season this year - except, of course, on Sept. 30 out on West Friendly Avenue!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 16, 2006, 04:33:53 PM
Hasonova
   You have to stick with what you know and if it works then go back to it twice.


D3Newbie,
  Yeah I was the oldtimer on the treadmill.  Your kid has a good background so that should help out.  I was looking at some stats the other day.  The offense had some pretty decent production last year.  The problems last year came from a really young defense. ( the defense in the USA South took a step back although I do think that methodist and averetts defenses improved from 03, when i was playing) 

with  the tools that gc has this upcoming season that the will win at least 5 d3 this games this season.   

Sidenote, this board gets a little vicious as the season gets closer.  If people know who your son is they are sure to take some jabs at you.  Also, I think all of the coaches and a few of your sons teamates conf check this site, so you have to be cautious of what you say. 



Go Pride
Raw meat, eat em up
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 16, 2006, 05:02:22 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on March 16, 2006, 04:33:53 PM
Hasonova    You have to stick with what you know and if it works then go back to it twice.
Mosh - thanks for a good laugh today!  GC1 & GC2 had a good crowd (3800) for the Soup Bowl last fall at Grimsley - I hope we have a really nice turnout at Guilford on Sept. 30!   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on March 17, 2006, 02:22:25 AM

Mosh - Thanks for the good advice. I don't think I ever would say anything negative about anything anyway, but there are probably some that will rag on me now matter what. Maybe I'll be getting a different screen name soon.

BTW, here's one more website, and then I won't be saying anything about him. This one has videos. 

http://qbvideos.00freehost.com/

And from the little I've been able to read and hear about, this season should be a lot more fun than last. I know he's excited about next year, the offense and his teammates - he loves the school and the coaches. I just wish he had gone to GC right out of HS - now he's only got two years of eligibility left!


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on March 17, 2006, 09:50:17 AM
Hey mosh did you see where the University of Tenessee showed up at GC to practice and were told to leave because they were at the wrong school (they were supposed to be at UNCG)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on March 17, 2006, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: narch on March 16, 2006, 08:11:01 AM
d3 newbie - you're boy looks like he's a baller...he'll have some solid weapons at wideout

What were you saying about knowing the difference between your and you're?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 17, 2006, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: swish3 on March 17, 2006, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: narch on March 16, 2006, 08:11:01 AM
d3 newbie - you're boy looks like he's a baller...he'll have some solid weapons at wideout

What were you saying about knowing the difference between your and you're?

nice catch, swish...just seeing if anyone was paying attention :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 17, 2006, 03:51:49 PM
Admiral
I am in ST Louis at USTRANSCOM attempting to get more control of the USCG. ;)You know USNORTHCOM has to have COMPLETE control. Trying to get more $$ for MIST Teams too. More shooters; more fun!!

You know if you tell somebody not to go out in the ocean and they go out then they need to drown instead of risking about 50 other lives and about 50 million in hardware. But that's just me huh?

We got to get together for the MC-GC-Q or the Mullet bucket this year

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 17, 2006, 09:53:37 PM
ADMIRAL
Got the word to flex back to the Springs for a refit-rearm and move to the coast this weekend. Give me the duty number so if I have time to cut loose to get down to the mullet suuun.

Standing by


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on March 20, 2006, 10:13:36 PM
Just was wondering what everyones impression was of Maryville's first year in USA South. I know that they did not have a very impressive record, yet I thought that they were competitive in all but one of their conference games (CNU). They did however finish the season strong by taking Methodist to the wire, and by beating Shenandoah and Huntingdon on the road.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 21, 2006, 01:40:32 PM
d3newbie - just finished reading all of the information on your son...he seems like an outstanding student-athlete - how did he wind up at gc?  no offense, but it seems like there would have been some other opportunities to play for a winning program along the way...why a team that has never had a winning season and is coming off a 1-9 campaign vs. a team like, say, mc which is coming off a conference co-championship, runs the spread option (which seems suited to your boys talents) and has had a winning record in 4 of the last 6 years?  did he look at any of the area d2's like wingate, lrc or catawba?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 21, 2006, 06:06:21 PM
Greensboro is the future of the USAC. 

That is probally why...Just my guess...

If you live in the past, the future is going to go by real fast narch.

Im looking forward to this years game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on March 21, 2006, 09:22:01 PM
Mosh...all this hard work trying to find a DC job must have rendered you temporarily insane!   :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on March 21, 2006, 09:24:35 PM
Apparently I got my answer on what everyone thought of Maryville's first year in the conference. The lack of posts and thoughts tells me that no one thinks enough of them to even reply. I have been reading this forum ever since Maryville became a member, and have really enjoyed everyones views. There are some people who really have a great knowledge of the game. As a former player at Maryville I was just curious to what everyone thought of their play. I believe that they were at times competitive, and at other times showed their youth and the fact that they are still learning what it takes to compete and be a winning team. Any thoughts????????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on March 21, 2006, 09:39:24 PM
Highlander, to be honest with you I don't know enough about Maryville to even give you an answer.  I know they took MC to the wire last year but that's about all I know.  They seemed to have a good squad that was right there for a bunch of games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on March 21, 2006, 09:56:15 PM
Admiral,
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your honesty, but you know you hit the nail on the head. Maryville being one of only three D3 teams in the state of TN and a new member of the conference makes them a relative unknown. Also, until they are able to earn respect by playing good, hard, tough, clean football on the field of play they will continue to be unknown. What makes me happy is the fact that after sooooo many years playing as an independent that they are able to finally be able to participate in conference play. Especially a conference that seems to be on the verge of gaining much respect nationally.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 21, 2006, 10:57:28 PM
Quote from: Highlander on March 21, 2006, 09:24:35 PM
Apparently I got my answer on what everyone thought of Maryville's first year in the conference. The lack of posts and thoughts tells me that no one thinks enough of them to even reply. I have been reading this forum ever since Maryville became a member, and have really enjoyed everyones views. There are some people who really have a great knowledge of the game. As a former player at Maryville I was just curious to what everyone thought of their play. I believe that they were at times competitive, and at other times showed their youth and the fact that they are still learning what it takes to compete and be a winning team. Any thoughts????????
Hey Highlander, don't get too upset if you don't get very many replies this time of year - it's a slow time on most of the football boards.  I'm an ODAC fan, but the USASAC guys definitely have Maryville on their radar screens.  You'll see a lot more posts and analysis after spring practice and again during August preseason drills.  Besides, Maryville only visited about half the USASAC schools in 2005 - some of the guys won't be able to see them in person until this fall.  I can tell you, however, Maryville is well-respected academically and athletically by all the DIII schools in NC and VA.  They know Maryville will be "in the hunt" within just a few years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on March 22, 2006, 03:56:19 AM
Quote from: narch on March 21, 2006, 01:40:32 PM
d3newbie - just finished reading all of the information on your son...he seems like an outstanding student-athlete - how did he wind up at gc?  no offense, but it seems like there would have been some other opportunities to play for a winning program along the way...why a team that has never had a winning season and is coming off a 1-9 campaign vs. a team like, say, mc which is coming off a conference co-championship, runs the spread option (which seems suited to your boys talents) and has had a winning record in 4 of the last 6 years?  did he look at any of the area d2's like wingate, lrc or catawba?

Spending nearly three years a 1000 miles away at a school in Missouri made him want to be close to home - even though his team won their conference championship and made it to the final 8 in NAIA last year. When he decided to move closer to home, he looked at several schools in the area and their QB situation.  The GC QB graduating on a passing team made GC look more attractive. Coach Mitchell made a very good impression and my son saw the talent at the offensive skill positions on tape. He liked the campus when he visited and he felt that GC had the talent to succeed in spite of the last couple of years. Probably the fact that he had been in a similar situation in HS with a team going from 3-37 to 13-1 his first year makes him more optimistic. The clincher was the influence of the offensive coordinator and the wide open offense of GC. Unfortunately, the OC left to coach in Texas (I think at my dad's alma mater), so we will miss him. Also, my son wanted to be in school in the spring and things had to move quickly to get that done. Everything fell into place, he loves the school and is looking forward to graduating in 2008. 

Now, if Ferrum will just stop sending us mail and calling us . . . .

He really feels blessed to be at GC. He's learned a lot in a short time with their offense and it is a very good fit for his abilities. Personally, I like the education he's getting at GC!


GO PRIDE ! !

 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on March 22, 2006, 04:00:08 AM
Quote from: narch on March 21, 2006, 01:40:32 PM
d3newbie - just finished reading all of the information on your son...he seems like an outstanding student-athlete - how did he wind up at gc?  no offense, but it seems like there would have been some other opportunities to play for a winning program along the way...why a team that has never had a winning season and is coming off a 1-9 campaign vs. a team like, say, mc which is coming off a conference co-championship, runs the spread option (which seems suited to your boys talents) and has had a winning record in 4 of the last 6 years?  did he look at any of the area d2's like wingate, lrc or catawba?

Spending nearly three years a 1000 miles away at a school in Missouri made him want to be close to home - even though his team won their conference championship and made it to the final 8 in NAIA last year. When he decided to move closer to home, he looked at several schools in the area and their QB situation.  Ferrum sent about 3 letters a week and called at least a dozen times, but he wanted to be closer to home than Virginia. The GC QB graduating on a passing team made GC look attractive. Coach Mitchell made a very good impression and my son saw the talent at the offensive skill positions on tape. He liked the campus when he visited and he felt that GC had the talent to succeed in spite of the last couple of years. Probably the fact that he had been in a similar situation in HS with a team going from 3-37 to 13-1 his first year makes him more optimistic. The clincher was the influence of the offensive coordinator and the wide open offense of GC. Unfortunately, the OC left to coach in Texas (I think at my dad's alma mater), so we will miss him. Also, my son wanted to be in school in the spring and things had to move quickly to get that done. Everything fell into place, he loves the school and is looking forward to graduating in 2008. 

Now, if Ferrum will just stop sending us mail and calling us . . . .

He really feels blessed to be at GC. He's learned a lot in a short time with their offense and it is a very good fit for his abilities. Personally, I like the education he's getting at GC!


GO PRIDE ! !

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 22, 2006, 01:37:16 PM
d3newbie - thanks for the candid response...it's always interesting to get a first hand account of the recruiting process - aside from ferrum, what other schools in the conference or out of the conference did he contact and look into?  too bad (for mc) your  boy didn't give the monarchs a look...with a graduating conference poty qb and no established heir apparent, the deepest (and possibly most talented) returning receiving corp in the conference, an outstanding rb, a qb friendly offense, an underrated offensive line, and an oc who is also the associate hc and a graduate i would imagine our coaches would have welcomed your boy to compete for the job - as it is, i wish him the best of luck for the next few years...except when he's playing the monarchs, of course :) - the gc/mc game is always a lot of fun, even if the series is one sided  ;) - i think everyone at mc has a lot of respect for the gc coaching staff and the gc kids always play hard

welcome aboard and enjoy the banter on this board...it's a lot of fun - please don't take offense if some folks don't say the most glowing things about your boy...i was pretty harsh on the gc qb last year when he threw something like 13 int's in the first 3 games...it's nothing personal, just a performance thing, but i can imagine if his dad (or he) read this board they were probably cursing me in 8 different languages - i know a few years ago some su fans were a bit critical of the qb and his dad was a poster...it was a bit awkward at times, but i thought all parties handled the situation very well - we expect YOU to think your boy is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but don't expect US to think that way - there have even been some active players who have identified themselves and posted on this board

p.s. - i'm not sure if you are aware of this, but if you've told the ferrum coaches that your boy is enrolled at gc and they are still contacting you/him, they are violating ncaa regulations...just an fyi - there might be folks on who read this board on the conference level or even coaches from opposing teams...you might want to make sure you clarify this statement

QuoteNow, if Ferrum will just stop sending us mail and calling us . . . .
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 22, 2006, 01:41:31 PM
highlander - as others have said, the extent of my knowledge about m'ville is what i've seen statistically and what i heard on the broadcast of the mc/m'ville game - i know this...they gave the monarchs ALL they could handle and they have (or hopefully had :)) a fantastic wr who put up really nice numbers and burned the monarchs - i think they'll be a team that will make life difficult for every team they play and could legitimately be 6-4/7-3 and in contention for the conference crown depending on what they lose and what comes back - i'm looking forward to seeing them in fayetteville next year

do the m'ville football fans get into the games like their hoops fans do?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballjoe on March 22, 2006, 03:51:02 PM
Nach I understand the Monarchs' are having spring football starting today.  Let us know how they look shaking the winter rust off
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 22, 2006, 06:06:39 PM
Im headed to the UNC coaches clinic tommorow.  Should be fun.  Ill teach you oldtimers what I learn...

Maryville,
I think you guys are going to be a force in this conf.  Good plus for you guys is that you out of nc and va.  Plus everyone that plays you has to travel a really long way..  That sets you up with some serious home field advantage....

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 23, 2006, 02:05:19 PM
fbjoe - i saw a little bit of practice while i was at the softball game yesterday - i watched the qb's, primarily as that's the position with the most question marks - bartee looked VERY athletic, and he seemed to throw a good ball - looked like the coaches were really working on some footwork things with him - schultz looked like he had a pretty strong arm, too - i saw him throw a couple of outs that were on a rope - not sure who the other qb's throwing were, but none of them threw any ducks...of course, there was no rush and no db's on the wr's, so it's tough to really evaluate, but i've talked to some players and coaches, and i think everyone feels like whoever steps up this spring and takes the job will be in good shape...there are a lot of weapons returning, and a very solid o-line
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballjoe on March 23, 2006, 04:12:06 PM
Narch since you were able to see a little of the practice could you tell if some of those injured last year and could not play were practicing and did they look healed.  Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on March 23, 2006, 07:27:20 PM
Narch, I saw a MC van pulling out of UNCW this weekend...couldn't think of any athletic team that could be competing there...any idea what they were there for?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 23, 2006, 10:34:38 PM
Quote from: footballjoe on March 23, 2006, 04:12:06 PM
Narch since you were able to see a little of the practice could you tell if some of those injured last year and could not play were practicing and did they look healed.  Thanks for your input.

no...i was watching from the softball game and wasn't close enough - the qb's were easy to spot from my vantage point...the others, not so much
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on March 24, 2006, 11:33:47 PM
Narch & Mosh,
Nice of you to provide a reply. After reading this board for quite a while I have become to know and appreciate the insight that ya'll have regarding the conference and the teams that play in it. I may be biased being an alum, but I believe that Maryville has a nice atmosphere for college football. Plenty of parents and alumni show up early to fire up the grills and turkey friers to tailgate under the trees surrounding the stadium. During the game the crowd can really get into the action. At the present time they have also learned to stay to the end, because the game might always be decided in the fourth quarter. LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 25, 2006, 12:17:16 PM
UNC put together a pretty good experiance. 

Trent Dilfer delivered some jokes and a prayer.  The Wr coach from the indanapolis colts gave a pretty moving speech ( about dungies sons death)...

The thing that I learned the most from was the practice setup at UNC.  I watched alot of the db drills (they had a nice flow)..

Looks like the head coach is doing a good job.  In one of the presentations they showed how North Carolina High School Football  is tenth best in the nation.   Not bad considering texas and texas and pa are all bigger states.

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on March 30, 2006, 09:11:15 AM
CNU's 2006 schedule is up ... non-conference opponents are Rowan (A), Mary Hardin-Baylor (H), and Salisbury (A). 

http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Football/06fbskd.htm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 30, 2006, 02:13:23 PM
the monarch's schedule  (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2006schedule.htm) is up, as well...not nearly as ambitious as the cnu schedule, but i'm excited about 6 home games since there were only 4 last year - i think mc "owed" chowan another game and this will probably be the last time mc plays them...they should improve with another class of scholarship players, and will be a good test for the monarchs - i think guilford and ehc are great games...regional opponents who should be improved, but still winnable games - i'd like to see the coaching staff replace chowan by getting a team like b'water or salisbury on the schedule...i'd like to see first-hand how the monarchs match up against b'water, in particular
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 30, 2006, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: narch on March 30, 2006, 02:13:23 PM
the monarch's schedule  (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2006schedule.htm) is up, as well...not nearly as ambitious as the cnu schedule, but i'm excited about 6 home games since there were only 4 last year - i think mc "owed" chowan another game and this will probably be the last time mc plays them...they should improve with another class of scholarship players, and will be a good test for the monarchs - i think guilford and ehc are great games...regional opponents who should be improved, but still winnable games - i'd like to see the coaching staff replace chowan by getting a team like b'water or salisbury on the schedule...i'd like to see first-hand how the monarchs match up against b'water, in particular
Guilford hasn't posted their 2006 schedule yet, but I figured it out because all ten opponents already have.  It's the same as last year - six ODAC and four USASAC (FC, MC, AU & Greensboro) - except we only have four home games this year versus six in 2005.  I'm not sure why GC waits so long to publish the schedule, but they do it every year - it seems silly to me.  Anyway, I may drive to Fayetteville on Sept. 9 - I'm anxious to see if the Quakers can continue last season's aerial attack AND improve some on Defense.  It's also interesting to note that it will be GC's 2nd game and MC's 1st, which has some pros & cons.  Barring injuries, it may give GC a little early season edge, but it also gives MC a chance to send some scouts to the Sept. 2 Ferrum game at Guilford.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on March 30, 2006, 03:21:06 PM
about the scholarship players at chowan.  several IAA transfers from gardner webb and WCU.  also some DII, juco, and some CNU boys signed schollys as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on March 30, 2006, 03:24:38 PM
chowan also benefits greatly from being able throw academic money around as well.  up to 8 G's just for having a 2.0 GPA.  they are putting alot of packages together.  there were some very impressive skill players when i went to the spring game.
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Post by: CNU85 on March 30, 2006, 08:15:31 PM
Hey Sailor,

who are the CNU players that signed "scholly's"? Where? I had heard a rumor about one in particular possibly headed to UVA, but not sure about the reliability of the source. Could have been a bunch of BS.
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Post by: D3Newbie on March 30, 2006, 08:52:52 PM
Greensboro College Football Schedule:

Date  Opponent
Sept. 2  Mars Hill College
Sept. 16  Maryville College
Sept. 23  Southern Virginia University
Sept. 30  @ Guilford College - 10th Souper Bowl
Oct. 7  @ Christopher Newport University
Oct. 14  Shenandoah University
Oct. 21  @ Averett University
Oct. 28  Ferrum College
Nov. 4  @ Methodist College
Nov. 11  @ North Carolina Wesleyan College

I think Mars Hill, Southern Virginia and Guilford are the non-conference games.

I did hear that Mars Hill was an offensive power last year . . . anyone know more?

Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on March 30, 2006, 10:02:52 PM
#'s 61, 92, 93 all dtackles are transfering.  61 and 92 to chowan.  they can sign scholarships bc it is d2 and provisional.  93 is probably gonna wind up with a roster spot at uconn or maryland.  the Uva kid( the one that i know of) will just walk on bc he is terrible and never played here. lol.  dont know what he is thinking.  another one of the starting de's is probably gonna transfer too.  a safety transfered not sure where.  a linebacker that was slotted to start this year is transfering and has been released.  a running back from a year ago is going to chowan.  92 is already at chowan with money.  61 is goinng to chowan with money. the running back is going to chowan with money.  the de probably will too if he actually decides to leave along with that linebacker.  he is talking to chowan about money too.  do u see a common theme here lol???  money talks.  also several other players that would play this coming year have quit.  not looking good.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on March 30, 2006, 10:06:38 PM
and im reliable.  some of these guys are my roommates.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 31, 2006, 12:32:30 PM
Why would you transfer to chowan because of money?
Doesnt the state school provide you with an education for about 3-4 thousand a year?  Plus, nothing against chowan but I would imagine cnu's proffesors are little bit better than what rural murfeesboro has to offer.

And if you transfer up then you have to sit out a year (or is that not the case because chowan is provisinal?)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 31, 2006, 01:20:41 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on March 30, 2006, 08:52:52 PM
Greensboro College Football Schedule:

Date  Opponent
Sept. 2  Mars Hill College
Sept. 16  Maryville College
Sept. 23  Southern Virginia University
Sept. 30  @ Guilford College - 10th Souper Bowl
Oct. 7  @ Christopher Newport University
Oct. 14  Shenandoah University
Oct. 21  @ Averett University
Oct. 28  Ferrum College
Nov. 4  @ Methodist College
Nov. 11  @ North Carolina Wesleyan College

I think Mars Hill, Southern Virginia and Guilford are the non-conference games.

I did hear that Mars Hill was an offensive power last year . . . anyone know more?

Thanks!
At 4-6 in 2005, I don't think I would classify MHC as an offensive power, but they are in a strong DII conference (SAC).  They beat then DII #5 Carson-Newman (TN) last year, played Western Carolina and won about three conference games.  They will probably be bigger, stronger and deeper than the Pride.  Barring a lot of turnovers or injuries, expect to get thumped.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on March 31, 2006, 04:29:22 PM
mosh i wouldnt have to sit out at DII anywhere not bc chowan is provisional.  cnu comes out to a little over 14 g's a year.  most expensive public school in the state and it only goes up each year.  i dont care if the profs arent as good in the murf bc they have my major and im paying less than half of what i would.  but d3 to d2 is the only jump one can make w/o sitting and still recieving football money or else thats what has been explained to me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on March 31, 2006, 04:31:18 PM
mosh ... u really thought u could go to any state school in va for a couple grand a year.  or were u being sarcastic.  i wish it was like that lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 31, 2006, 05:21:56 PM
I really thought that was how it was.
Im guessing that is how much the total tuition is.  If you qualified for fafsa like I did you would prob be paying about 3-4 a year. 

Goodluck at Chowan, your out in the sticks like me. (im in rocky mount)  Cant say I like the country that much anymore, but the football is good so what are you going to do...

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on March 31, 2006, 09:54:42 PM
thanks mosh.  good luck to you too.  ill be in your shoes in a couple of years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 02, 2006, 12:41:56 AM
Quote from: drunken sailor on March 30, 2006, 10:02:52 PM93 is probably gonna wind up with a roster spot at uconn or maryland.  the Uva kid( the one that i know of) will just walk on bc he is terrible and never played here. lol.  dont know what he is thinking. 

no offense to cnu or your knowledge of the players, but if he didn't play at cnu, he won't walk on at uva, unless they want him as a scout teamer - as for what he's thinking...could be academics...uva has an ok reputation from what i hear :)

Quote from: drunken sailor on March 30, 2006, 10:02:52 PMmoney talks.

but wait...cnu fans have always said that cost WASN'T a factor in why student-athletes chose cnu, right :)...i'm just kidding (kind of), no need to rehash the private v. public thing
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 02, 2006, 09:43:45 AM
Narch,

  A kid I played with at GC (chris shaw) walked on at UGA a fews back.  Scout team for one year and then he was at least on the kickoff team.   He has the diamonds on his finger from the conf championship they won a few yrs back. 
Anyways, it can be done.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on April 02, 2006, 12:02:15 PM
93 and the UVA kid (99) are two completely different players.  93 really could play at DI but i think 99 knows he'll never play.  not to get into the whole money thing about CNU but i couldnt turn down paying 5 or 6 G's and paying full tuition at CNU.  and narch feel free to say what you want about CNU i wont flip out
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on April 02, 2006, 12:03:47 PM
NARCH,  as a methodist grad you should know that CNU has a much better rep than UVA. CMON!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 02, 2006, 10:48:45 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 02, 2006, 09:43:45 AM
Narch,

  A kid I played with at GC (chris shaw) walked on at UGA a fews back.  Scout team for one year and then he was at least on the kickoff team.   He has the diamonds on his finger from the conf championship they won a few yrs back. 
Anyways, it can be done.

yeah there was a rb from mc that walked on at florida state a few years back...returned kicks, even got some handoffs, so you're right...it CAN happen, but the likelihood is not high, especially for a dl...they are too hard to come by to slip through the cracks, in my opinion
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 03, 2006, 09:27:44 AM
FYI Read the front page April 1 Daily Dose "Recruiting Recap: Let's get started."  There are a couple of ODAC and USASAC schools mentioned, including Bridgewater, Emory & Henry, Guilford, Greensboro, Methodist and NC Wesleyan.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 03, 2006, 06:41:49 PM
hasonova,
i had the oppurtunity to visit guilfords campus this weekend...the pink hairs still run around that campus like maniacs...

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 03, 2006, 08:48:59 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 03, 2006, 06:41:49 PM
hasonova,
i had the oppurtunity to visit guilfords campus this weekend...the pink hairs still run around that campus like maniacs...
Yeah, Guilford has always been a little left of center - even when I was there over 30 years ago.  lol  It's a great school, though, and you meet all kinds of people.  If you go to school there, it's just one of the characteristics you learn to accept.  It's definitely NOT a military school or fundamentalist stronghold.  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on April 04, 2006, 11:28:37 PM
hows it going guys, started back with the football thing so time is limited....just wanted to drop a line and say

READY READY MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 05, 2006, 03:48:36 PM
MOSH
It will never end at GC. Hasanova is a little off when he says "little left of center".

Hey Papi........still alive or just blowing me off..........
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 05, 2006, 08:20:08 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on April 05, 2006, 03:48:36 PMMOSH   It will never end at GC. Hasanova is a little off when he says "little left of center".
Actually, I chose those words carefully - sort of a classic understatement.  I don't agree with everything the school does and I certainly do not agree with every student, but I'm glad Guilford is the way it is ... and I personally hope it does, in fact, never end.  lol   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 05, 2006, 08:26:40 PM
Finally, called it Guilford instead of GC.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 05, 2006, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 05, 2006, 08:26:40 PMFinally, called it Guilford instead of GC.
Hey, abnrgr is the one who did that - not me.  I put Guilford on purpose - I figure we don't want everyone to get mixed up on the USASAC board!  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on April 05, 2006, 10:55:04 PM
ABNRGR....still alive...but just barely...haven't been around the computer much lately...been busy with a 'ready for ops' inspection  >:(  We'll definitely have to make it to the Mullet Bucket this year, I haven't been in a couple of years. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 07, 2006, 03:15:24 PM
some info on the mc qb competition this spring from the fayetteville observer - click here (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=230405)

one has a great arm, the other is athletic and the other is a real leader...too bad they can't just blend them together and make one guy :) - don't be surprised if a frosh comes in this fall to make it a 4 way competition...the coaches are after a couple of guys that they think could be special, but we're a long way from august
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 07, 2006, 04:33:19 PM
Hasa
I call Guilford GC-Q and Greensboro, GC at the request of of the Greensboro Pridesters. That started about about a year or 2 ago.

Remember the movie Platoon when one guy said "you don't spell Dear, Deeer and Sarah ain't got 2 "r"s. The other troop answered "she don't read to good anyhow".

Well that's why the Pridesters know what I mean.

Narch
Go with the leader is my motto unless the talented one gets really really talented. Everyone is so used to seeing somebody (at MC) that can take off, break contain, and take a hit. Why disappoint?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 08, 2006, 09:52:01 AM
I'd heard this rumored before, but a story in the Greensboro News & Record this morning confirms Campbell's plan to restart football in 2008.  The Camels played from 1925 until the Korean War.  I always heard a story they stopped football because a player suffocated in the mud at the bottom of a pile-up .... not sure if that's true or just a legend.  Anyway, Campbell says they plan to apply to the I-AA non-scholarship Pioneer League.  By my count, that's 30 football playing colleges in NC - more pressure on the recruiting front.  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 08, 2006, 09:59:27 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on April 07, 2006, 04:33:19 PMHasa    I call Guilford GC-Q and Greensboro, GC at the request of of the Greensboro Pridesters. That started about about a year or 2 ago.    Remember the movie Platoon when one guy said "you don't spell Dear, Deeer and Sarah ain't got 2 "r"s. The other troop answered "she don't read to good anyhow".   Well that's why the Pridesters know what I mean.
Yeah, abnrgr, I'm with you - I've seen you use GC-Q before.  I think there was one post where Mosh might have thought you were talking about the Quakers and he wasn't sure.  Anyway, no big thing at all.  By the way, take a look at GC-Q's website and pull up the camera for the new press box - it's starting to take a little shape.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 08, 2006, 11:10:40 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 08, 2006, 09:52:01 AMmore pressure on the recruiting front.  lol

you aren't kidding!  the monarchs are really surrounded with campbell as a 1aa non-scholly program, and uncp and fsu as d2 programs - i don't really worry about losing recruits to 1a schools, even most 1aa's, because truly, the kids that can really play at those schools don't consider a d3, but the 1aa ns programs and d2's...that's another story - and to top it off, uncp and fsu are less than 1/2 of what mc costs BEFORE they throw scholarships at kids, and cu is a few thousand less (and more generous with their $$'s)...doesn't bode well for regional recruiting down the road, but i'm confident in the monarch coaching staff and their ability to win some of those battles!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 09, 2006, 01:04:27 AM
Quote from: narch on April 08, 2006, 11:10:40 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 08, 2006, 09:52:01 AMmore pressure on the recruiting front.  lol

you aren't kidding!  the monarchs are really surrounded with campbell as a 1aa non-scholly program, and uncp and fsu as d2 programs - i don't really worry about losing recruits to 1a schools, even most 1aa's, because truly, the kids that can really play at those schools don't consider a d3, but the 1aa ns programs and d2's...that's another story - and to top it off, uncp and fsu are less than 1/2 of what mc costs BEFORE they throw scholarships at kids, and cu is a few thousand less (and more generous with their $$'s)...doesn't bode well for regional recruiting down the road, but i'm confident in the monarch coaching staff and their ability to win some of those battles!
narch - I wasn't aware UNC-P was going to start a team, so that makes 31 NC schools with football!  When do the Braves start and what league will that be?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 09, 2006, 10:52:26 AM
For the amount of players that make it to the high school playoffs here in nc we should be ok.  We are the 10th best football state in the nation acordding to the HC at UNC.  Seems like to me, the good teams do a good job of retaining talent (making the players stars) and the losers dont fair so well in that department.  So you should factor into the equation 31 schools x four years. 

Who is winning the recruiting war?

I have a kid that is 6-4 300 looking for a home.  2.4 GPA and 850 on the SAT's. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 09, 2006, 11:56:58 AM
Sailor,

thanks for the info. The UVA transfer I was talking about was a CNU starter....my source is starting to become a little suspect. A few other things he mentioned did not pan out.....he likes to talk, I guess. I'll keep checking.

Mosh....I'm naive in the d3 recruiting world.....who would take a kid with a 2.4 and an SAT of 850 at the d3 level? If he is having difficulty finding a home and still wants to play bad enough, send him to Newport News....to the Apprentice School. He can play, get some more time in the classroom, and get paid!!!  Also, he'll end up with a trade. Not a bad option.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 09, 2006, 02:06:07 PM
I think if he doesnt get in anywhere then he is going to go to hargrave military academy
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on April 09, 2006, 06:28:16 PM
no prob cnu 85.  the kid you are talking about is at maryland right now.  he should know pretty soon.  i know for sure he is not coming back after the bad taste some of the coaches left in his mouth.  shisty
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Fightin Hawk on April 09, 2006, 06:52:37 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 09, 2006, 01:04:27 AM
Quote from: narch on April 08, 2006, 11:10:40 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 08, 2006, 09:52:01 AMmore pressure on the recruiting front.  lol

you aren't kidding!  the monarchs are really surrounded with campbell as a 1aa non-scholly program, and uncp and fsu as d2 programs - i don't really worry about losing recruits to 1a schools, even most 1aa's, because truly, the kids that can really play at those schools don't consider a d3, but the 1aa ns programs and d2's...that's another story - and to top it off, uncp and fsu are less than 1/2 of what mc costs BEFORE they throw scholarships at kids, and cu is a few thousand less (and more generous with their $$'s)...doesn't bode well for regional recruiting down the road, but i'm confident in the monarch coaching staff and their ability to win some of those battles!
narch - I wasn't aware UNC-P was going to start a team, so that make 31 NC schools with football!  When do the Braves start and what league will that be?

You probably already knew, but Brevard is also starting a program this season...NAIA/DII..I think they are DII provisional or something. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 09, 2006, 09:36:51 PM
'nova - i think uncp will play as a d2 independent, at least initially - i can't really think of where they might fit - the peach belt has no schools which play football and uncp is not a good fit for the sac - i've heard that the ciaa is a possibity, especially with many of the ciaa schools talking about goin d1aa, but i just can't imagine a school that isn't a hbcu in the ciaa...they start in '07 and actually have signed 10-15 players who will redshirt next season, play spring ball next spring and then start playing on the varsity level

cnu85 - you are very naive...that kid could end up at almost any d3, including some schools you wouldn't imagine he would get into based on academic reputation
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 09, 2006, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: Fightin Hawk on April 09, 2006, 06:52:37 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 09, 2006, 01:04:27 AM
Quote from: narch on April 08, 2006, 11:10:40 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 08, 2006, 09:52:01 AMmore pressure on the recruiting front.  lol

you aren't kidding!  the monarchs are really surrounded with campbell as a 1aa non-scholly program, and uncp and fsu as d2 programs - i don't really worry about losing recruits to 1a schools, even most 1aa's, because truly, the kids that can really play at those schools don't consider a d3, but the 1aa ns programs and d2's...that's another story - and to top it off, uncp and fsu are less than 1/2 of what mc costs BEFORE they throw scholarships at kids, and cu is a few thousand less (and more generous with their $$'s)...doesn't bode well for regional recruiting down the road, but i'm confident in the monarch coaching staff and their ability to win some of those battles!
narch - I wasn't aware UNC-P was going to start a team, so that make 31 NC schools with football!  When do the Braves start and what league will that be?

You probably already knew, but Brevard is also starting a program this season...NAIA/DII..I think they are DII provisional or something.
Yeah, I was aware of Brevard and counted them in my 31.   One of my brothers lives in that general part of the state (Hayesville/Clay Co.) and his son plays hoops for Montreat, which is in the NAIA DII Appalachian League with Brevard - if anything is going on in that league he usually lets me know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 09, 2006, 10:56:44 PM
Quote from: narch on April 09, 2006, 09:36:51 PM'nova - i think uncp will play as a d2 independent, at least initially - i can't really think of where they might fit - the peach belt has no schools which play football and uncp is not a good fit for the sac - i've heard that the ciaa is a possibity, especially with many of the ciaa schools talking about goin d1aa, but i just can't imagine a school that isn't a hbcu in the ciaa...they start in '07 and actually have signed 10-15 players who will redshirt next season, play spring ball next spring and then start playing on the varsity level
narch - As you know, DII or DIII independent football is tough.  I agree, the SAC, being all private schools, may be reluctant to let a state-supported school join.  We'd probably hear the same stuff we hear from the rest of the USASAC about CNU's financial advantage.  The CIAA might be a better fit than you think since they have a mix of private and state schools already.  I understand the HBCU background of the CIAA, but maybe UNC-P will argue their historical background as a college for Native Americans will be philosophical a fit.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 09, 2006, 11:43:49 PM
I thinks that's great for kids in NC having The Camels and even Pembrook with programs. There are load of kids at the dreaded BC Eagles sitting the bench that could go down there and start.  More fodder (hopefully) for GC-Q (until those schools get on their feet). As a former Havelock Rams assistant we had kids that should have gone somehere and these programs can help them get into school. I personally did not care (well I did care) as long that had that shot of going to college and getting out of some those small towns on the coast (ala Me and Papi) seeing some life. If they got kilt in football I always pushed for them to stay. If I got one to stay I would have been happy and I was because 50% of my boys stayed. I coached for that feeling. I also liked to see people get hit hard down there when they came to Havelock.  ;) 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on April 10, 2006, 07:09:45 AM
ive been hearing uncp plans to stay independent then just move to DIAA like presbytarian is doing (moving to big south). 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on April 10, 2006, 07:20:23 AM
RGR...My body still sounds like a bowl of rice krispies in the morning thanks to some of those hits from the Rams!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 10, 2006, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: drunken sailor on April 10, 2006, 07:09:45 AM
ive been hearing uncp plans to stay independent then just move to DIAA like presbytarian is doing (moving to big south).
If Presbyterian goes DI-AA and moves to the Big South, then that opens a spot in the SAC.  Anyone want to bet whether Brevard takes that SAC berth after the Blue Hose leave? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 10, 2006, 08:33:26 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on April 09, 2006, 11:43:49 PM
I thinks that's great for kids in NC having The Camels and even Pembrook with programs. There are load of kids at the dreaded BC Eagles sitting the bench that could go down there and start.  More fodder (hopefully) for GC-Q (until those schools get on their feet).
Yeah, some kids decide to go to college because they get a chance to suit up for four more years.  Win or lose, I personally think having a football team adds a lot to the college atmosphere - you can feel it in the air on game day!   Hey BC kids, listen to your ol' pal abnrgr - go somewhere you can play now!  lol   Speaking of GC-Q, they've always had a fair number of players from some parts of eastern NC (Pitt County, Rosewood, Columbus Co. New Brunswick Co., Wallace-Rose Hill).  Sometimes I know it's because we have alumni coaching there, but hey, you use every "in" you can get -right?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 10, 2006, 10:14:17 AM
Quote from: narch on April 09, 2006, 09:36:51 PM
'nova - i think uncp will play as a d2 independent, at least initially - i can't really think of where they might fit -
If UNC-P plays a few years as an independent, don't rule out the Big South if the Braves move up to I-AA.  I could see them having a great rivalry with teams such as Coastal Carolina (right across the state line in Conway, SC) and Gardner-Webb (since they are currently the only Big South football member from NC).  Right now, the Big South (for football) only has 5 members - if Presbyterian makes the switch, that's six, but I see the league needing seven teams to be truly viable.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on April 10, 2006, 12:03:09 PM
i think that chowan would be eligible to join the sac first since they will be eligible to join a conference first.  im pretty sure brevard is DII but what is this DII naia appalachian league???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 10, 2006, 12:41:30 PM
Quote from: drunken sailor on April 10, 2006, 12:03:09 PMi think that chowan would be eligible to join the sac first since they will be eligible to join a conference first.  im pretty sure brevard is DII but what is this DII naia appalachian league???
The NAIA has two divisions - I & II - with separate championships & some differences in scholarships, etc.  The Appalachian Athletic Conference is NAIA DII & currently has no championship for football since there are only three teams - Union (KY), UVA-Wise and Brevard (NC) - & they're in other leagues for football only.  The other AAC members are Bluefield (VA), Bryan (TN), Covenant (TN), King (TN), Milligan (TN), Montreat (NC), Tennessee Wesleyan, & Virginia Intermont.
Title: monarch practice
Post by: footballjoe on April 10, 2006, 12:46:01 PM
Hey Narch, Have you seen any more of the monarch's spring practice sessions?  If so how is the qb position looking?  how are the receivers (wr&te) looking? thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 10, 2006, 04:38:43 PM
sorry...i just don't see uncp going d1aa...they can't even compete in the pbac (admittedly a difficult league) in any sport other than soccer (and the monarchs beat uncp 3-1 a few years ago when uncp was ranked 4th in the country in d2) - i'd be willing to bet that uncp stays d2...as for the independent status...i don't know - it will be a tough go - there would be less uproar about private/public in the sac than there is in the usasac, because there are athletic $$'s to even the playing field somewhat - i can see the ciaa happening before i can see the sac, happening, though

fbjoe - i've seen a little more of practice since my last post, but not enough to make a real analysis other than what we already know
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballjoe on April 11, 2006, 07:28:06 AM
thanks  narch
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 11, 2006, 12:17:33 PM
Quote from: drunken sailor on April 10, 2006, 12:03:09 PM
i think that chowan would be eligible to join the sac first since they will be eligible to join a conference first.  im pretty sure brevard is DII but what is this DII naia appalachian league???
According the SAC website, they've already admitted Lincoln Memorial University (TN) for the 2006-07 season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 11, 2006, 05:34:01 PM
Quote from: narch on April 09, 2006, 09:36:51 PM

cnu85 - you are very naive...that kid could end up at almost any d3, including some schools you wouldn't imagine he would get into based on academic reputation

Details Narch.....help me become "un-niaive".  There seems to be some doubt from his coach as to getting in anywhere and thus going to Hargrave.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 11, 2006, 08:50:51 PM
Clairify, He is worried about not getting into the D1's (because they all want to play d1)  I think most d3's could sneak him in. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Fightin Hawk on April 11, 2006, 10:18:38 PM
Quote from: drunken sailor on April 10, 2006, 12:03:09 PM
i think that chowan would be eligible to join the sac first since they will be eligible to join a conference first.  im pretty sure brevard is DII but what is this DII naia appalachian league???

I would expect North Greenville to be the next SAC member.  They just built a brand new stadium and are getting better each year. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 11, 2006, 10:30:55 PM
Quote from: Fightin Hawk on April 11, 2006, 10:18:38 PM
Quote from: drunken sailor on April 10, 2006, 12:03:09 PMi think that chowan would be eligible to join the sac first since they will be eligible to join a conference first.  im pretty sure brevard is DII but what is this DII naia appalachian league???
I would expect North Greenville to be the next SAC member.  They just built a brand new stadium and are getting better each year. 
I don't know too much about North Greenville College other than where they are, but I'll have to say they would be a good geographic fit for the SAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Fightin Hawk on April 12, 2006, 02:47:59 PM
Hasanova,

I played at North Greenville back they were the pits.  They aren't anything spectacular right now, but they have improved drastically since I left (I hope this is just a coincidence...lol).  They have recently built a very nice 5,000 seat stadium and have recently started playing more SAC schools.  Yes, geographically they are great fit and their school's background fits in pretty well also (small, private christian school).  I know the idea of adding North Greenville has been talked about and, from what I have heard, one of the MAJOR reasons for building the stadium was to get on track with the rest of the SAC schools (Tusculum, Presby and Carson Newman have all recently built new or upgraded stadiums).   But, it looks like Brevard is also trying to get noticed as well by playing a few SAC schools this year.  They would also be a good fit for the SAC. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 12, 2006, 02:59:12 PM
thanks for the clsrification mosh - I'm less "ignant".

sailor - sorry the guy i was talking about going to uva is still at cnu...i think my source was full of "stuff"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 12, 2006, 03:46:25 PM
Quote from: Fightin Hawk on April 12, 2006, 02:47:59 PM
Hasanova,

I played at North Greenville back they were the pits.  They aren't anything spectacular right now, but they have improved drastically since I left (I hope this is just a coincidence...lol).  They have recently built a very nice 5,000 seat stadium and have recently started playing more SAC schools.  Yes, geographically they are great fit and their school's background fits in pretty well also (small, private christian school).  I know the idea of adding North Greenville has been talked about and, from what I have heard, one of the MAJOR reasons for building the stadium was to get on track with the rest of the SAC schools (Tusculum, Presby and Carson Newman have all recently built new or upgraded stadiums).   But, it looks like Brevard is also trying to get noticed as well by playing a few SAC schools this year.  They would also be a good fit for the SAC. 
Right now, NGC is somewhat overshadowed by Furman & Wofford in the Greenville-Upstate area.  I believe joining the SAC would help their visibility considerably.  If they've built a 5000-seat stadium, that's pretty good for a school that size.  My youngest son goes to MHC and they also need an upgrade.  Playing SAC schools to get visibility is certainly a factor for both NGC and Brevard, but let's also not forget that those are some of the cheapest trips they can make for keeping travel costs reasonably low.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on April 12, 2006, 05:54:40 PM
its ok 85,  but do you know the players number or position??? id like to know who it was.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 12, 2006, 10:25:23 PM
we're talking more about the sac more than they do on d2football.com (if such a thing even exists :)) - there is really some intense competition for players in nc, which is part of the reason i think you see the monarchs and others mine areas like ga and fla...there aren't as many choices for those kids (no school that isn't a d1aa or higher, although jax u is 1aa, non scholarship) and they play football year-round - those kids are more difficult to keep for 4 years, though - if a fla kid is a good student and doesn't play right away, it's tempting just to go back to sunny fla and the in-state tuition - you really have to recruit more selectively down there and make sure that the kids you bring in are going to stay...i think this is one of the reasons the monarchs have improved so much the last few years...they're doing a better job of keeping kids around for multiple seasons and playing with more upper classmen
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on April 13, 2006, 01:47:11 PM

Since today is the last day of Spring Football for Greensboro College, I was wondering if anyone has had a chance to watch them, or will get a chance to watch them today.

Would love to hear opinions on how The Pride looks and what might be expected next year based on Spring drills.  Wish I could watch them today!

Thanks!!


ROLL PRIDE ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: eddie on April 15, 2006, 11:13:39 AM
i heard from an inside source that cnu was looking at some transfers this week.  i no of one from richmond and one from carson newman but thatdoesnt mean they are any good.  about the guys that went to chowan my source said they lost one and a half players so i would think he was trying to say one was good one was ok and the others jus sucked.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on April 15, 2006, 04:27:36 PM
man i hope i dont suck lol.  i dont know if i would say any of them suck.  they all played so that would mean cnu has "sucky" players on the field playing for them.  i heard the kid from U of R is a real hard worker from another player that was all conference for them this past season.  he plays d line but will probably get switched to o line bc he is so big.  the kid from carson newman ive never heard of.  also a transfer from fordham who had to sit this past season out is a stud.  hes a running back from VA beach and had three consecutive thousand yard seasons without much of an offensive line.

ps who said we sucked???? cause my feelings sure are hurt by golly
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: eddie on April 16, 2006, 09:31:11 AM
no one said they sucked.  i should of said not as good as the stud.  it was the way the source said other players like the team wouldnt miss them.  my fault a little to harsh.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on April 16, 2006, 03:56:55 PM
we all cried.  its ok i accept your apology. 

ps i hope im the stud
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on April 17, 2006, 12:37:07 AM
Yea Yea Yea I know you all missed me. Hope everyone's winter was a happy one.

Well head banging time is getting closer and closer and I can't wait. My Redskins are coming off a playoff season and only looking to get better and CNU. Well c thats where the ?s are. All I am hearing out of CNU camp is about players leaving and yada yada yada. To the guys that remained at CNU the old guys are still behind you.  TAKE BACK WHATS YOURS.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 25, 2006, 05:26:47 PM
just peeked at the Frodham stats. The only Va Beach lpayer on the roster is a DB. There is a RB from Richmond......also fordham didn't have a 1,000 rusher in 2004. I love it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on April 25, 2006, 10:34:07 PM
he played db at fordham thats one reason why he left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 26, 2006, 11:28:08 AM
so the 3 consecutive 1,000 yd seasons are from High School?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on April 26, 2006, 12:17:17 PM
hell yea!!!  who would transfer down after three consecutive 1000 yard seasons in college?!  he played at princess anne high school in vb
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on April 26, 2006, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on April 13, 2006, 01:47:11 PM

Since today is the last day of Spring Football for Greensboro College, I was wondering if anyone has had a chance to watch them, or will get a chance to watch them today.

Would love to hear opinions on how The Pride looks and what might be expected next year based on Spring drills.  Wish I could watch them today!

Thanks!!


ROLL PRIDE ! ! !

I guess nobody saw any of the spring practices  :(

And it's a long wait until preseason . . . . .  :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Fightin Hawk on April 27, 2006, 01:20:03 AM
Mosher,

Check this out.

http://www.floydboe.net/Sites/Site5/HomePage.asp?&Check=True&Check=True
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Fightin Hawk on April 27, 2006, 01:22:01 AM
Quote from: Fightin Hawk on April 27, 2006, 01:20:03 AM
Mosher,

Check this out.

http://www.floydboe.net/Sites/Site5/HomePage.asp?&Check=True&Check=True

sorry...wrong link...try this one.

http://www.floydboe.net/Sites/Site5/1033/7088.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 27, 2006, 11:04:25 AM
Do they actually play football in Va Beach? (just a joke - I grew up on the Peninsula....in Hampton with the hated Crabbers!! I love it when they lose!)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 27, 2006, 10:12:31 PM
85 I saw the highlights from the championship game vs my buddys team from up north..Anyways, the crabbers have a serious qb on their hands this yr....

The link up above shows a former Pride Player / UGA walkon (chris shaw in a movie with some famous actor) I guess it is about the Marshall Plane disaster..  Good to see the Pride getting some PR. 


Narch, I see you guys have the shrine bowl combine at your house..That has to be a sweet setup getting all of the states players on your campus (saw it on ncpreps.com..)Do you guys ever pull any that way?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on April 28, 2006, 02:12:41 AM
yea we play football!!  but there is a weight limit and you cant be over 5'8" lol.

ps. its coed
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 28, 2006, 10:49:47 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 27, 2006, 10:12:31 PMNarch, I see you guys have the shrine bowl combine at your house..That has to be a sweet setup getting all of the states players on your campus (saw it on ncpreps.com..)Do you guys ever pull any that way?

hopefully...this was the first time that it's been hosted on our campus...from everything i hear the event was very well run and the shrine bowl folks were pretty happy...hopefully this becomes a yearly deal
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on May 02, 2006, 06:01:22 PM
Been kind of slow on the board: Spring practice must not have pumped people as much as what I would have thought. According to an article in the Maryville news paper: The Daily Times Maryville College is excited to have 21 out of 22 starters returning as well as all of their specialists from last season. With that much experience returning I hope that Maryville will be able to compete and maybe turn some of those close losses to conference foes into wins. This is all determined by how hard the players work in the off- season, and by them coming together in the fall and playing good hard, clean football.

P.S. Maybe the USA South and the GSAC could combine and create a super conference- similiar to what the SCAC is doing? Any thoughts?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: religion_major on May 02, 2006, 09:39:23 PM
Travel might be a big issue is the GSAC and USA South combined.  Imagine having to travel from Huntingdon in Alabama to Shenandoah in Winchester, VA at least once per season in every sport.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on May 04, 2006, 01:25:11 PM
Quote from: Highlander on May 02, 2006, 06:01:22 PM
Been kind of slow on the board: Spring practice must not have pumped people as much as what I would have thought.
no spring game, no pads...it is what it is...guys throwing around a football and running some drills - don't get me wrong, i think it's a huge improvement over no spring ball, but fans just aren't going to get too excited without watching guys knock the snot out of each other

QuoteAccording to an article in the Maryville news paper: The Daily Times Maryville College is excited to have 21 out of 22 starters returning as well as all of their specialists from last season.
let me know if that's still the case in august...never seen a d3 team return everyone they thought they'd return...could be a first, though

Quote
P.S. Maybe the USA South and the GSAC could combine and create a super conference- similiar to what the SCAC is doing? Any thoughts?

like rm, i don't think that will happen with the current conference alignments - maybe if cua, su and cnu went to the cac to form an all-sports conference with wesley, salisbury, frostburg and the other current cac members the usasac would consider a merger with the gsac, but i don't see that happening in the near future
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on May 06, 2006, 12:36:42 AM
Narch,
I certainly respect your point of view. Your knowledge of D3 football is reflected in your discussions on this forum. In response: (1) I agreee that fans might not get that excited about Spring practice since there are no pads and no "real" spring game, yet I believe that it is great from a players and coaches point of view. Players get more excited about the off- season knowing that they will actually get to practice and not just lift. Coaches get a chance to evaluate players and teach the underclassman more in depth than they do during the regular season. I am a former D3 player who never understood why everyone else could have off- season practice, but football could not.
(2) Being a former player, I too know that everyone does not always return, yet it is encouraging for the Scots to finally be in this position.(3) Maybe create a North and South region in the "super" conference?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2006, 01:24:53 AM
Quote from: religion_major on May 02, 2006, 09:39:23 PM
Travel might be a big issue is the GSAC and USA South combined.  Imagine having to travel from Huntingdon in Alabama to Shenandoah in Winchester, VA at least once per season in every sport.

That is about 759 miles.

Just a little shorter than Mississippi College to Sul Ross State! ;)

It can be done!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on May 06, 2006, 12:52:19 PM
highlander - don't get me wrong...i'm  a huge fan of what spring ball does for players and player development - i think it helps retention of players and i think teams can get better - but even for the most die-hard fan (like myself), it's hard to get excited about watching guys run drills in shorts and t-shirts - like you, i've never understood why full-contact spring football is such a bad thing for d3 - almost every other sport gets to play a full non-traditional schedule, to include scrimmages against other teams...why can't football put on pads for 8-10 days and have a spring game?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 09, 2006, 11:43:42 PM
Papi
2 Havelock LB's went to the NFL. Guy Whimper Giants and Chris Moore to the Saints. Whimper changed over to OT at ECU but Planet Head Moore stayed as a MLB. What a hat bringing fool. We got 6 playoff games out of them before they went to ECU. WHo was the East Carteret LB who played at State? Did he get in? Hope so.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on May 10, 2006, 12:53:51 AM
The last EC LB to go pro was Levar Fisher.  He was my fullback at East.  Could really bring the pain.  I remember him knocking a LB from WC out cold during the Mullet Bucket.  Last I heard he was playing for the Saints.  He's had a bunch of injuries in his 3-4 years in the league.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 10, 2006, 02:54:31 PM
Lavar. That was the guy who smoked one of our recievers. He entered the film and disappeared so fast he was blur. Now that guy was THE HAT BRINGING fool. He was the fastest kid I ever saw at EC. Maybe in the league to include my playing days. Fearless!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on May 10, 2006, 10:04:24 PM
I was the fastest man alive when I played!


But I think you gain speed with age
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 12, 2006, 12:11:46 PM
Yes MOSH. Didn't they call you the "SILKWORM MISSLE"?  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 12, 2006, 12:46:20 PM
Here comes Narch with a spelling lesson.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on May 12, 2006, 01:19:44 PM
'85 - i don't correct abnrgr...he's a bad man and just unstable enough to keep me on his good side :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 12, 2006, 11:28:56 PM
damn.......SILKWORM is correct; must be missile.

CNU and Narch- head injuries catch up quick,  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: sebastion on May 13, 2006, 02:04:28 AM
I heard Shenandoah lost it's d-coordinator...what will the Hornets look like this season...the champs of '04 or the 2-8 version of last year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on May 14, 2006, 05:16:55 PM


Season is creeping on us.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on May 22, 2006, 10:43:55 PM
Fellow posters: I hope everyone is doing well and enjoying summer. I also hope that everyone's respective teams are working hard to improve themselves. I personally have always believed that you win football games by what you do in the off- season. I am optimistic that the USA South will be even more competitive this season. After reading the news about the Conference looking to add schools it reminds me of my commment about combining the Great South and USA South. I would personally like to see Maryville, for their sake, be able to join the conference in every sport. Just Two more months till Camp.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on May 29, 2006, 11:17:32 AM
Hello Everyone: I hope that you all are having a great Memorial Day. I would like to personally Thank all of our Country's Armed Services personel (current and former) for all that they have done and will continue to do. Please take a moment today to remember our Armed Services personel. If you known one personally or just happen to see one tell them how much they are appreciated.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 29, 2006, 06:17:30 PM
Highlander
Admiral Papi (I'm sure he does if he is not throwing up over the side of his vessel) and I appreciate it. I'm sure there are some other Vets on the board that keep it to themselves.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on May 30, 2006, 01:28:33 PM
Kudos to the vets,

Football and Lacrosse, two best sports ever invented!  Is it to early for predictions?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on May 30, 2006, 01:54:49 PM
Mosh,
I believe that there is great talent in the USA South. With that being said I think that it could be anybody's to win or lose on any given Sat. Until somebody can step up I think that Ferrum, CNU, and Methodist will be the teams with the best chance to win the conference. Yet, I also think there are several teams that can sneak up including Averett, NC Wes, Greensboro, and of course Maryville. These teams must learn to finish and how to turn close losses into wins.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 01, 2006, 03:38:53 PM
ODU is officially fielding a football team in Norfolk starting in 2009. They last had a team in 1940. They will be 1-AA. I'm assuming it will be scholarship. How will this affect this board, if at all? some of my thoughts:

recruiting of local 757 kids....another option if they want to stay at home and not consider CNU and don't have the grades for W&M.

Matt Kelchner - new ODU head coach? pure speculation, but he would be a good fit. He has coached 16 years at the 1-AA level before becoming HC at CNU. He knows how to start up a program from scratch and be succesful.

just some thoughts - start throwing darts!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on June 01, 2006, 05:20:39 PM
I have also wondered about ODU's football program and its impact on CNU. I do know that ODU women's hoops coach Wendy Larry is excited about it as hoops recruits like the college football atmosphere on Saturday's.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 02, 2006, 11:29:46 AM
ABN...you know I'd never get sick but we've certainly had nasty enough weather for it around here lately.

Narch, did any of the fellas stay around to work out for the summer.  Did any one of the QB's distance himself from the others as the front runner for the starter going into camp this summer?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 04, 2006, 12:52:12 AM
Papi- I know you are hard. I was "jus messin wid ya sun".

Good friend of mine just became the lead operations officer for the CG MRST program. They gonna be hard now. You need to think about that program. Beau Coup assets in it. They are going to make it a career path.

Anyway what's those Mariners look like this year? They going to get that bucket?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 04, 2006, 02:52:47 PM
Abngr/ Papi,

  I saw that Hoggard had an asst coaching position open.  Looks like a pretty decent team.  I put my resignation in at Northern Nash, but I think those boys are going to have a pretty decent year this year. 

Highlander,

  From my perspective I think the only team that has dominated this conf is cnu and I think that is evening out right now.  Everybody else is in the mix!  This year should be interesting.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 04, 2006, 07:24:37 PM
Mosh
thought you liked NN. Those Knights. You think you got a shot at the coast? What are you teaching?

Papi just getting old
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on June 05, 2006, 12:36:12 PM
PREDICTION- MC 10-0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 05, 2006, 03:23:50 PM
Quote from: rocket on June 05, 2006, 12:36:12 PM
PREDICTION- MC 10-0
Rocket, you certainly know their personnel and coaching staff as well as anyone (and certainly better than I do!), but a 10-0 prediction is saying something!  I was thinking the Monarchs might be about 8-2 again.  What does everyone else think?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 05, 2006, 05:15:54 PM
ROCKET
Great Job last year

Are you still tracking with commissioning?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 05, 2006, 06:40:27 PM
Hey Drunken Sailor,

You still out there? Rumor has it you're staying put at CNU. I like that. If true, what changed your mind?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 05, 2006, 10:09:29 PM
papi - no qb really took the job...they all had a nice spring, but nobody rose above the others...should be a nice race right up until the season starts...competetion can't help but make everyone better

'85 - lots of interesting points - if odu goes scholly, i don't see them affecting cnu TOO much, but if they go 1-aa non-scholly, watch out...they could really get in the captains back pocket - i like the kelchner for hc talk...he'd be a great candidate

rocket - i like the confidence...the weapons are there and the defense should be improved, but there is a leadership void that must be filled...i hope you're right
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 05, 2006, 11:15:33 PM
Well since you asked Hasanova ;)

I believe without seeing of course,  that the first hurdle to the 10-0 regular season will be a resurgent GC-Q. Up until 2 years ago those games were close. MC will have to come up with a scheme to get Vogelbach. Vogelbach is not what they used to have....5'8" 145lbs of bones running. No offense to the others but GC-Q  did not have a field leader offensively. With a possible 50 passes coming at them (I know Narch..... 3 things happen on a pass, 2 of them bad......, beat you to it) Or it will be some scoring. Both ways probably. Vogelbach is what Rocket was 3 years ago. He brought some pride back.
"I'M WILLIAM WALLACE AND I SEE MY CONUTRYMEN HERE today READY FOR BATTLE"............. Well you get the idea. AFter GC-Q a 9-1 is possible IF those dreaded Panthers go down, otherwise Hasanova (this pains me to say  ;)) is correct 8-2 with a stop in the show. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 05, 2006, 11:43:30 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 05, 2006, 11:15:33 PM
Well since you asked Hasanova ;)

I believe without seeing of course,  that the first hurdle to the 10-0 regular season will be a resurgent GC-Q. Up until 2 years ago those games were close. MC will have to come up with a scheme to get Vogelbach. Vogelbach is not what they used to have....5'8" 145lbs of bones running. No offense to the others but GC-Q  did not have a field leader offensively. With a possible 50 passes coming at them (I know Narch..... 3 things happen on a pass, 2 of them bad......, beat you to it) Or it will be some scoring. Both ways probably. Vogelbach is what Rocket was 3 years ago. He brought some pride back.
"I'M WILLIAM WALLACE AND I SEE MY CONUTRYMEN HERE today READY FOR BATTLE"............. Well you get the idea. AFter GC-Q a 9-1 is possible IF those dreaded Panthers go down, otherwise Hasanova (this pains me to say  ;)) is correct 8-2 with a stop in the show.
Hey abnrgr, you said some of the things I was thinking.  I believe GCQ will be an early hurdle for MC (or MC will be an early hurdle for GCQ).  I see this as an interesting second game contest.  For now, I give GCQ an edge at QB (Vogelbach is the real deal) until I see who comes forward to fill Rocket's shoes.  MC probably has the edge on D right now AND the game is in Fayetteville.  It should be a competitive game and I'll probably drive to Cumberland County to see it.  I just don't see MC (or any other team) going through the USASAC undefeated this year - CNU, FC, MC and AU were all pretty fair last year, NCWC has built a good program, Maryville has seen everyone one time through and the odds say GCP & SU will win some of those close ones this season.

Come on, abnrgr, you know we've agreed before on this board and it didn't hurt your rep!  lol  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on June 06, 2006, 10:53:17 AM
Hey 85,
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on June 06, 2006, 10:55:42 AM
hey 85,
     sorry about the first post.   yes i am staying at CNU but am not playing ball from what I understand.  i guess things just didnt work out.  however I have been staying in shape and hitting the weights as i am trying to get started in MMA when i get back to school in august.  good luck to all next year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 06, 2006, 02:32:36 PM
Sailor,

Man, that didn't sound good at all. Of course things get lost in interpretation, but it sounded like some things are not in your control. Keep positive - it always works out in the end.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 06, 2006, 02:33:20 PM
MMA?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 06, 2006, 03:06:44 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 06, 2006, 02:33:20 PM
MMA?
I'm guessing Merchant Marine Academy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on June 07, 2006, 12:45:34 AM

Any chance MC getting upset at homecoming 2006?   :o

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 07, 2006, 11:05:30 AM
That was my guess too. But everytime I assume something I get it wrong! Also -around my work, it could also mean Maine Maritime Academy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 07, 2006, 12:37:54 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 07, 2006, 11:05:30 AM
That was my guess too. But everytime I assume something I get it wrong! Also -around my work, it could also mean Maine Maritime Academy.
Ah, I hadn't thought about that.  Could be ...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 07, 2006, 06:47:48 PM
There's also a Mass. Maritime Academy I believe.

ABN...you gonna make it to the GCQ-MC game this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 08, 2006, 10:15:00 AM
Papi
It's in the right place. Timing now. I am going to try because I want to see Vogelbach and Narch in his leather chaps
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: drunken sailor on June 08, 2006, 10:39:35 AM
Merchant MArine Academy?!  haha no WAY!  mixed martial arts, ultimate fighting.   Youve never heard of the UFC?  man you guys gotta get out more lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 08, 2006, 02:52:27 PM
AHHH the UFC....that's the show where I pund down a few beers, get a nice buzz on and watch guys beat the snot out of each other....life is good!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 08, 2006, 02:54:33 PM
MMA - I have a Fuschia belt in Foo Tai Kung Judo Kwan
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on June 08, 2006, 07:33:15 PM
Just curious, has anyone heard anything about Shenandoah during this off-season? What is their recruiting class looking like, and how will they deal with what they considered to be a disappointing season last year? I still feel that this conference form top to bottom, after being able to see it for the first time last year with Maryville joining, has the ability to compete with anyone in the south region. I know, I know that I will get tons of people telling me that the ASC and the SCAC will still be the conferences to beat in the south region.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 09, 2006, 09:27:15 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 08, 2006, 10:15:00 AM
and Narch in his leather chaps

abnrgr - it's faux leather chaps, my friend...gotta be animal friendly these days :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 09, 2006, 11:22:51 AM
Highlander,

I haven't heard anything about SU. Another source to try is The Kid over on the ODAC board. He keeps up with that kinda thing and may be able to provide insight for you. As a CNU fan, I'm still in shock with the SU 2005 season - still scratching my head about it.
Title: Job for Mosh
Post by: abnrgr on June 16, 2006, 01:42:43 AM
Mosh did you get that coast job or what. Your silence is thunderous.

Just stay away from those Mullet bucketers. Papi will be sending in plays all night ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 16, 2006, 06:04:15 PM
Abngr,

  Not yet.  I will find out thursday whether I get a coaching job in the college ranks.  If that happens my silence will be a fixture for a few years. 

Title: JOB
Post by: abnrgr on June 17, 2006, 12:01:37 AM
MOSH
Good luck. But you can tell us what school before signing off right? Or is it a "school" in Langley VA. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 23, 2006, 11:48:01 PM
Abngr,

I suppose I will be back in the High School ranks again.

Roll Pride
Title: Jobs
Post by: abnrgr on June 24, 2006, 05:44:15 PM
Mosh
Thats alright. You're getting your name out there. Don't worry about jumping to the next level for a couple of years. Remember the assistants do not get paid that well (unless you are at LSU). I remember some 70-80 weeks at Lees-McRae and that was the early 90's. 13-17K a year for an asst with a room. Ouch.  It's a good thing I had that underwear gig with GQ.

Work on a head job at the level your at. That will get you a chance at a coordinator job at the D-2 or better. You remember the grad assistants at MC? Jeeez I know they were smoked.

I know college is for an A-type personality like yourself. Hang in. Your still a youngster...... right?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 24, 2006, 06:57:21 PM
Abngr,

Still a youngin I guess.  I was offered the Head Lacrosse/ Asst Football Coach at Ronald Regan High School Friday.  I have to choose that or going after a Defensive Cordinator Job at Williamston (1a in open country)
I guess the college game will have to wait a few years.

At least Ill be able to catch a few games at Wake or in Greensboro this year.

Summers starting to smoke up a little.  Anybody been rafting in that flood water latley?

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 26, 2006, 03:09:48 PM
mosh - i've never heard of rr high school, so i googled them - looks like the facility was opened in oct. 2005?  there is something to be said for morale at a place like that - when you're working (and taking classes) in a nice, shiny, modern building, i think people seem happier - i've never been in williamston hs, but i can't imagine it's as nice a rrhs seems on the web - besides, the triad is your stomping grounds and i would think hc experience, even in another sport, can't hurt - i don't think you can go wrong, though, because being a dc can be great training, too - good luck
Title: Work
Post by: abnrgr on June 26, 2006, 03:32:48 PM
MSOH
Narch makes a good point.

Head coach is head coach. Nothing like being the boss.

I noticed the 'happier" phenomenon at a Carteret County school....Croatan?. I forget its name, but everyone seemed very pleased to be in that environment.

Another thought.......I have always noticed that I was happier with a male principal. Not so much hand wringing and uh.....anal retentiveness was missing from that situation.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 26, 2006, 04:45:49 PM
Thanks for the insight.

Im definatley leaning towards RR.  Tough choice though since being a D cord is a goal of mine.  I think the Forsyth Schools pay on a higher scale than most NC Schools. 

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 26, 2006, 05:34:57 PM
Quote from: narch on June 26, 2006, 03:09:48 PM
mosh - i've never heard of rr high school, so i googled them - looks like the facility was opened in oct. 2005?  there is something to be said for morale at a place like that - when you're working (and taking classes) in a nice, shiny, modern building, i think people seem happier - i've never been in williamston hs, but i can't imagine it's as nice a rrhs seems on the web - besides, the triad is your stomping grounds and i would think hc experience, even in another sport, can't hurt - i don't think you can go wrong, though, because being a dc can be great training, too - good luck
Ronald Reagan HS has been there a couple of years now - lots of new housing in western Forsyth County near Winston-Salem.  If fact, my great niece will be a freshman there next fall.
Title: Re: Work
Post by: narch on June 27, 2006, 01:43:41 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 26, 2006, 03:32:48 PMI noticed the 'happier" phenomenon at a Carteret County school....Croatan?. I forget its name, but everyone seemed very pleased to be in that environment.

yeah, croatan is a beautiful facility, and it doesn't hurt that it's about 100 yards from the croatn (i think) sound...not a bad view

i think jack britt and gray's creek are similar situations here in cumberland county...folks out there just seem to be happier...something to think about
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 27, 2006, 04:32:18 PM
Narch, its just inside of Bogue sound which separates Bogue Banks (Atlantic Beach, Emerald Isle, Pine Knoll Shores, Salter Path...) from the Morehead City/Cape Carteret Area. 

Croatan definitely has the best facilities in the county.  A lot of money lives near that school.  It also has MC alum David Foster coaching there.  They have a pretty football friendly principal there also, but East Carteret has the most football/athletic friendly principal in Carteret County in Ralph Holloway.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 27, 2006, 05:44:17 PM
Papi
Ralph Holloway is at East Carteret? He was at Kinston right? If it is the same Ralph....he is a professional. He calls a good game. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 27, 2006, 06:07:29 PM
I believe he coached at Kinston...we stole him from West Carteret where he was their athletic director.  He has been awesome for all of EC's sports programs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 27, 2006, 06:54:42 PM
New Hanover and Page have been calling the last two days. 

Seems like my stock is going up
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 27, 2006, 08:42:06 PM
Mosh, you'd love New Hanover....3 blocks away from downtown Wilmington...Never a dull night down there!

Narch, they closed down front street brewery  :-\ 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 28, 2006, 02:12:39 PM
papi - i knew that wasn't the croatan sound (does such a thing even exist), but i flaked on the bogue sound...front street closing is a travesty...i'd like the entire board to observe a moment of silence for the death of a great brew-pub






wow...that breaks me up - i could subside on the pretzels and the raspberry wheat - is there anything similar replacing front street in downtown, or will i have to head out to the martini place on wrightsville bch to imbibe in a laid back atmosphere?

mosh - nh is a great place - fantastic athletes (especially in baseball...trot nixon is a nhhs alumn), adequate facilities, and just blocks from the 2nd best downtown atmosphere in nc (behind uptown charlotte) - there are just a few attractive ladies in the wilmington area, too, and wrightsville is 15 minutes away...i know what MY choice would be :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 28, 2006, 06:13:01 PM
Narch,  no Croatan sound exists...at least not in NC.  Croatan HS sits in the middle of Croatan National Forest. 
As of the last time I was down there nothing had move into front street's spot.  There's a few spots dowtown with a more laid back atmosphere...next time your in town let me know and we'll check them out.  I'd invite ABN but he'd probably drink both of us under the table  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 28, 2006, 10:17:00 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on June 28, 2006, 06:13:01 PM
I'd invite ABN but he'd probably drink both of us under the table ;D

i'd be afraid he'd show up in those chaps he's always talking about...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 29, 2006, 12:16:54 AM
Narch
Not at a astonishing "300lb pounds of staggering meat". Perhaps something unpretentious underneath like a Coastguard seaman in crotchless underwear. It's strictly a comfort issue Chief "Master and Commander of his vessel" Papi tells me.

But I do want to meet up with your guys at a game. The BC crowd is so rude exposing themselves at haltime like "Braveheart"....... ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: eddie on June 29, 2006, 04:27:24 PM
not sure if anyone new this but in the lindys college football preview it had cnu 24th and a running back from averret was on the third secound team all america!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: eddie on June 29, 2006, 04:27:52 PM
third or secound
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 29, 2006, 05:54:25 PM
All American Announcer at AU.

  Love the cougar noises.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on June 30, 2006, 12:15:29 PM
Anyone interested in joining an ESPN.com fantasy football league? Email me if your interested. Im trying to get a league started with some competitive members.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on June 30, 2006, 08:20:17 PM
Been kind of slow. It is that time of year. Just wanted to tell everyone to have a happy and safe Fourth of July. I personally cannot wait for football camp to start. I may be blinded by my feelings, but I believe that this conference is slowly beginning to emerge on the nationally scene. From top to bottom, from what I have seen of the conference in one year, all of the temas seem to be competitive. I know that everyone likes to make pre-season predictions, yet I don't see how anyone could possibly predict who will be champions this season.  I know that as a supporter of Maryville that I would like to see them continue to make improvements, which I believe comes with learning what it takes to be a champion.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on June 30, 2006, 08:34:40 PM
Quote from: Highlander on June 30, 2006, 08:20:17 PM
Been kind of slow. It is that time of year. Just wanted to tell everyone to have a happy and safe Fourth of July. I personally cannot wait for football camp to start. I may be blinded by my feelings, but I believe that this conference is slowly beginning to emerge on the national scene. From top to bottom, from what I have seen of the conference in one year, all of the teams seem to be competitive. I know that everyone likes to make pre-season predictions, yet I don't see how anyone could possibly predict who will be champions this season.  I know that as a supporter of Maryville that I would like to see them continue to make improvements, which I believe comes with learning what it takes to be a champion.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on June 30, 2006, 08:35:33 PM
Sorry about the posts back to back. Still trying to learn how to edit all of my mistakes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on June 30, 2006, 10:23:09 PM
Hey Narch,
Just out of curosity, Why do you have the helmets for Guilford and E&H with the rest of the conference? Are you hoping that we get them to leave the ODAC and join or do you just follow those schools?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 02, 2006, 10:35:33 PM
highlander - it's the monarch schedule, represented by the team helmets
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on July 03, 2006, 03:50:06 PM
narch- thanks for the info. I can't even learn how to edit my own posts, and you are able to put all of the Monarchs opponents helmets on your posts. I remember back when I played at Maryville during the late 90's when we played Methodist at home. My family, including myself, could not believe the size of their players. Needless to say we did not fair very well againest them. I only played on one winning team at Maryville(1999), my senior year. However, I believe that they really are starting to turn the program around.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 03, 2006, 04:25:30 PM
Quote from: narch on July 02, 2006, 10:35:33 PM
highlander - it's the monarch schedule, represented by the team helmets
Hey, narch.   I noticed Chowan is on your schedule this year.  Guilford hasn't played the Braves in several years.  What's going on with their program these days?  I know they're no longer in the USASAC and may be DII now (?).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 05, 2006, 11:12:03 PM
Quote from: hasanova on July 03, 2006, 04:25:30 PM
Hey, narch.   I noticed Chowan is on your schedule this year.  Guilford hasn't played the Braves in several years.  What's going on with their program these days?  I know they're no longer in the USASAC and may be DII now (?).

they are d2, although i'm not sure if they're full-fledged yet...they weren't very good last year, from the reports i got, but i suspect they'll be better with a year of d2 recruiting under the belt...who know's - they owed the monarchs a game, and since mc only played 4 home games last year and the ssu series is squared away, i think the coaches decided to take that game that chowan owed us this year - i've heard that there have been some discussions beyond 2006 for a high profile d3...i'd love to see mc add someone like bc, but we'll have to see
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 06, 2006, 07:58:13 AM
Quote from: narch on July 05, 2006, 11:12:03 PM
Quote from: hasanova on July 03, 2006, 04:25:30 PM
Hey, narch.   I noticed Chowan is on your schedule this year.  Guilford hasn't played the Braves in several years.  What's going on with their program these days?  I know they're no longer in the USASAC and may be DII now (?).

they are d2, although i'm not sure if they're full-fledged yet...they weren't very good last year, from the reports i got, but i suspect they'll be better with a year of d2 recruiting under the belt...who know's - they owed the monarchs a game, and since mc only played 4 home games last year and the ssu series is squared away, i think the coaches decided to take that game that chowan owed us this year - i've heard that there have been some discussions beyond 2006 for a high profile d3...i'd love to see mc add someone like bc, but we'll have to see
Thanks for the Chowan update.  Speaking of a high-profile DIII coming to town, how do you think Averett will fare versus Mt. Union in Danville this fall? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 06, 2006, 11:46:41 AM
Has Chowan improved their facilities yet?  Of all the places I played at while at both MC and CGA, Chowan's where by far the worst.

Narch, looks like the heat in Fayetteville is turning on just in time for 2-a-days.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 06, 2006, 12:28:47 PM
Papi
I had my first college (JC) sack at Chowan but that was 1975. (was that the year you were born  ;) )The QB and me both got hurt by the turf.  :)The field was miserable.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 06, 2006, 12:32:21 PM
Abn...that was 5 years before I was born, but I bet the same turf you hit that day was the same turf I hit 25 years later!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on July 09, 2006, 09:52:47 PM
The New York Times ran an article on why schools start football programs.  Shenandoah is cited heavily for those who are interested.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/10/education/10football.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

You'll probably need your own log-in, but the process is free and quick.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on July 09, 2006, 10:37:24 PM
http://www.gborocollege.edu/weblog.php?action=showpage&page=article&aid=1324&blogid=9&offset=0

Nice article on Greensboro College 2006 season. Should be an interesting year . . .


GO PRIDE ! ! ! !



http://www.gborocollege.edu/
Title: GC VS GC-Q
Post by: abnrgr on July 10, 2006, 12:16:59 AM
Newbie
The Pride and Quakes go big

100 points get scored in this game if Rocket's minion is trained to standard. Or Vogelbach does not ride a mortorcycle without  an helmet which I am sure Kesler is in is pockets.

Aw I am starting to get a plumpie (semi at 50)with the sights of helmets being cleaned up.

I got to run into Fleet Admiral  Papi in Fayettenam.............or at harker's island son
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 10, 2006, 12:52:55 PM
Abngr,

  I met Kelser yesterday while working at my summer job.  This is tough to say because Im a fan of the pride, but he seemed like a pretty good guy.

Defense is the name of the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 10, 2006, 02:27:32 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 10, 2006, 12:52:55 PM
Abngr,

  I met Kelser yesterday while working at my summer job.  This is tough to say because Im a fan of the pride, but he seemed like a pretty good guy.

Defense is the name of the game.
So far, so good for Kevin Kiesel at Guilford.  Needless to say, 5-5 (4-2 ODAC) last year was a BIG improvement over 2004's 1-9, 1-5 (the seventh straight losing season for the Quakers, by the way).  With nice improvements to facilities, a good recruiting year and almost everyone coming back, expectations are high this fall.  I could be off base, but I'm looking for about 6-8 wins in 2006.  I think the Defense will be improved and I hope the Offense will click much like last year.  Of course, opposing Defenses now know what to expect!  Four early games versus the USASAC, so we'll soon see.  Go Quakers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 14, 2006, 01:39:31 PM
football season is just around the corner...just purchased my d3football.com kickoff preview...can't wait to check it out!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 14, 2006, 03:13:59 PM
Narch - it is right around the corner.....just purchased my season tickets this afternoon (ticket prices are reasonable.....just gotta contribute to the Captian Crew...you can call me Vice Admiral CNU85 from now on!!!).....can't wait to see the Mary Hardin Baylor game!! Another tough non conference schedule for CNU! And the conference teams proved last year they can shut down CNU. I would think the team(s) that make the post season should be prepared to compete. The conference is getting a little more mature and a lot better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 17, 2006, 11:14:37 AM
MOSH- Keisler needs to be GOOD to win there.

CNU85-As it is said a team never makes a greater leap in improvement all year than from the 1st to the 2nd game. Too bad you cannot catch them on game 2. Tough teams bring out the best sometimes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 17, 2006, 02:57:08 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on July 17, 2006, 11:14:37 AM
MOSH- Keisler needs to be GOOD to win there.

CNU85-As it is said a team never makes a greater leap in improvement all year than from the 1st to the 2nd game. Too bad you cannot catch them on game 2. Tough teams bring out the best sometimes.
abnrgr - At least Kevin Kiesel has a fighting chance to recruit with changes to the stadium.  Mike Ketchum didn't.  They always say the new coach gets what the old coach needed.  I think everyone will admit Armfield Stadium was out of synch with modern facilities.  Finally, it has decent quarters for the press, coaches and video crews.  Things have also improved for the spectators with refurbished seats (plus 176 new seats), restrooms in the stadium (what a concept! lol) and a new scoreboard.  Now, if they'll just find some money to upgrade the visitor's side and build a fieldhouse, we're there!  lol  I'm going to a cookout and walk-through for football alumni and Quaker Club members July 18.  When I get a closer look at the weight room, locker room and press box, I'll give you a report. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 17, 2006, 04:54:06 PM
Hasa
per your last post: Concur as written.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 18, 2006, 12:49:23 AM
Looks like somebody was looking out for the football team at Guilford.


Cough, Cough --->Kirby
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 18, 2006, 08:15:11 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 18, 2006, 12:49:23 AM
Looks like somebody was looking out for the football team at Guilford.


Cough, Cough --->Kirby

lol  True.  If anyone knows what a football team (and head coach) needs, it would be Marion Kirby!  I give President Chabotar a lot of credit for improving facilities as well ... and the folks they asked for money (including me).  lol

Mosh - are you going to make it to the Soup Bowl this year?  Sept. 30 at Guilford.  Pat Cummings said he was going to try to cover the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 18, 2006, 11:57:26 AM
I will be there.

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 18, 2006, 12:18:37 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 18, 2006, 11:57:26 AM
I will be there.

Roll Pride
Hopefully, we can say hello.  With the Soup Bowl, stadium renovations AND Homecoming, it should be a good crowd.  Go Quakers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 18, 2006, 12:47:20 PM
Congrats to Rob Rodriguez on making d3football.com pre-season All-American!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 18, 2006, 04:52:39 PM
Well I guess, Its time for me to join this post.  USASouth Releases the Preseason poll tomorrow.  Any thoughts on what it will look like.
Title: GC-Q
Post by: abnrgr on July 18, 2006, 10:30:37 PM
Hasanova
Deep down I wish they gave those tools to Iron Mike Ketchum.

I have to wonder if there was bad blood between him and Kirby and or the President. I mean as soon as Kirby walked in he dropped a load of poopie when Mike was demoted and then well.......you know the story.  Mike leaves and a wheelbarrow of money falls on the field.

I cannot believe anybody coached harder than he. Especially when it's the alma mater. I know that I was pretty intense at Havelock because I played on that field and took it personally when we lost. Granted high school and college are different.

I got upset if West Carteret scored on us. (for Papi) ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 18, 2006, 11:05:40 PM
Did WC score on anyone in those days?   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 18, 2006, 11:11:37 PM
Papi
My senior year Papas and crowd took us to the brink. We had to score on a punt return with about 20 seconds for 13-7 win. Funny it's about the only score I remember except a 26-3 pounding we gave to DA Bears of New Bern (AKA Free shoes U).

MC- How can they beat the QUAKERS this year?
Title: Re: GC-Q
Post by: hasanova on July 18, 2006, 11:38:02 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on July 18, 2006, 10:30:37 PM
Hasanova
Deep down I wish they gave those tools to Iron Mike Ketchum.

I have to wonder if there was bad blood between him and Kirby and or the President. I mean as soon as Kirby walked in he dropped a load of poopie when Mike was demoted and then well.......you know the story.  Mike leaves and a wheelbarrow of money falls on the field.

I cannot believe anybody coached harder than he. Especially when it's the alma mater. I know that I was pretty intense at Havelock because I played on that field and took it personally when we lost. Granted high school and college are different.

I got upset if West Carteret scored on us. (for Papi) ;)
I'm not sure how all that came down, but I like Mike Ketchum as well.  He was GC Head Coach for 14 years - and an assistant before that - at his alma mater no less, so he had a long stint and no one doubts his passion for the job.  Granted, he probably never got the facilities and budget he needed, but that's another story.  I think Mike would have stayed until he retired, but his last seven seasons were below .500 with a couple of 1-9 and 2-8's thrown in the mix.  It's certainly not all his fault, but after a while you've got to act.  Actually, Kirby was AD with Mike as Head Football Coach for at least three or four years before Kiesel arrived.  Ironically, Mike had both roles for a few years, got burned out with it and asked Kirby to consider being the AD at Guilford when he was ready to hang it up coaching at Greensboro.  At the time, everyone thought it was a win-win, so to speak.  As far as the money issue is concerned, I think a lot of that came from President Chabotar when he arrived in 2002.  His predecessor was there from 1996-2002 and, in my opinion, the college's infrastructure took a beating during his tenure.  Chabotar seems better at fund-raising and realizing the importance of "curb appeal," so the facilities have improved across the board, not just in football.  To be fair, McNemar got the new Science facility completed, but I didn't see much progress in other areas. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 19, 2006, 12:23:52 AM
HAsa
Good retort. Nicely written
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 19, 2006, 08:24:45 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on July 19, 2006, 12:23:52 AM
HAsa
Good retort. Nicely written

To quote Elvis, "Thank you, thank you very much."  Big D (hasanova) has left the building!  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 19, 2006, 08:51:45 AM
Speaking of improving facilities, Narch has MC done anything recently to improve the stadium.  The last update I can remember was the track being added and the extra seats.  Are there restrooms out there yet or is it still the rent-a-jon's under the trees?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 19, 2006, 09:17:30 AM
I don't proclaim to be an expert on the USA South Football teams. (I am more in tuned with basketball, but that season is far away).  I have to keep myself busy somehow. I played one year at Greensboro College and still am a student there.  I will give you my prediction on how the teams will finish this year.  Although football is one of the hardest things to predict. As we can see from last year.  SU predicted to finish 2nd, finished last

1 Ferrum
2 Averett
3 CNU
4 Methodist
5 Greensboro
6 Shenadoah
7 Maryville
8 NC Wesleyan

Go Pride!!  I think they will really turn it around.  I will probably be the least bias person throughout the season.  I enjoy good football and thats what I will talk about even if my team stuggles or prevails.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on July 19, 2006, 02:10:49 PM
2006 USA South Coaches Poll
Rank Institution (1st place Votes)   Pts.
1. Ferrum (4)                             46
2. Christopher Newport (3)           44
T3. Averett (1)                           35
T3. Methodist                             35
5. N.C. Wesleyan                        22
T6. Maryville                              17
T6. Shenandoah                         17
8. Greensboro                              8

Congratulations to Greensboro College ! !

Is it just my imagination, but did the Pride win position 8 unanimously!

Does that mean Greensboro College voted itself #8? Is that the Bear Bryant mindset?

My personal and very biased opinion, the Pride just might sneak up on some people with their offensive firepower.

Maybe wishful thinking, or maybe not, but here are my predictions:

1 Ferrum
2 Averett
3 Greensboro
4 Methodist
5 CNU
6 Shenadoah
7 NC Wesleyan
8 Maryville

Could be a very surprising year . . . . .

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 19, 2006, 02:46:45 PM
D3Newbie-
Yeah it looks like it for GC that they won last place unanimously.  Although If its like any other polls in the conference.  The coach doesn't vote for thier team. You can't argue with how they finished last year 1-9.  But they lost 4 games last year to a total of 17pts.  I hope the polls aren't as accurate as they have been in the past.  It will help Greensboro's cause if it continues to be the trend.  Maybe the coaches were looking at it that the question mark is the QB position, because it truly is the question mark.

I just hope this poll motivates the players.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 19, 2006, 05:31:40 PM


I think Maryville is returning the team.  I would put them in the top four. 

1-4  Greensboro (last to first will be pretty tough, new qb good skilled players), Cnu (state school), Maryville, Ferrum(not sure what they return)

5. Averett
6. Methodist
7. NC Wes (heard rumors they wanted to be unc rocky mount
8.  Shenadoah

The Pride is dominating this board now!

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on July 19, 2006, 09:10:52 PM
As I have stated earlier, I believe that anyone in this conference can beat anyone on any given day. Pre- season polls are just tools to get the fans excited about the upcoming season, which in it's self is great for the game. I love how the fans of of the truest college football (D3) are so involved with knowledge and love for their institutions. It certainly looks like the conference has picked up in regards to non- conference games. The teams that wins the conference will have the following things happen- (1) A great off- season in regards to strength and conditioning (2) Returning players who have not graduated (3) Are able to stay away from injuries.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on July 19, 2006, 09:13:20 PM
As long as SU plays that boring zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, Ace-Wing Im unfortunately going to have to agree with Mosh that the Hornets finish either 7 or 8th this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 19, 2006, 09:53:10 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on July 19, 2006, 08:51:45 AM
Speaking of improving facilities, Narch has MC done anything recently to improve the stadium.  The last update I can remember was the track being added and the extra seats.  Are there restrooms out there yet or is it still the rent-a-jon's under the trees?

nothing to the stadium, but new locker room facilities...should be nice

that stadium has SO MUCH POTENTIAL to be really nice with a little cash...maybe a successful former fb player like yourself could drop a ton of it...I can hear it now

"ladies and gentlemen, welcome to monarch field at admiral papi stadium, home of your 2005 usasac (co) champion monarchs!"

let's make that happen :)

p.s. - i agree completely with the coaches poll
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 20, 2006, 09:33:38 AM
Things change throughout the season.  I think football is the one game where momentum plays the biggest part in the game. In the season and in a game. Not one person can win a game.  Just ask the New England Patriots, who built a team.  So to agree with Highlander.  The most important thing this season to win the USAS title.  TO STAY INJURY FREE.  This game is a team sport.  I think the talent in the conference is all about the same.  The team that executes more then the other will take this conference.

Uncle Jessie- My high school team ran the the zzzzzzzzzz ace-wing. it is so boring. I prefer the spread um game, one of the reasons why I went to Greensboro in the first place.

One more thing....fans....Greensboro has the worst fans in terms of getting after teams and its not just football.  If GC fans were into the sporting events as much as AU was..that could really help with outcomes of the games.  My goal is to make every game and to be as rowdy as I can.

Go Pride!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 20, 2006, 10:25:17 AM
As already posted all the talent in the USASAC is about equal.  I believe the most successful teams are the ones that have the best cohesiveness.  I think that's why the Patriots are so successful, they are one big family.  Staying healthy is a big part but if you get everyone on the team to believe in each other then you can survive a few injuries.

Narch if I gave MC my entire yearly CG salary it might buy one more rent-a-jon.  You could call it Admiral Papi's blue lagoon!!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on July 20, 2006, 11:19:30 AM
Prideguy-
   Ya I think your basketball fans are pretty rowdy tho. Being at the game last year in lovely Hanes Gym, I remember them Pride-fanatics getting after more than just a tiny bit.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 20, 2006, 11:36:18 AM
Goose-

haha yeah but lets not forget this is hanes gym.  Two people in there can make it rowdy. I believe we had signs posted all over campus for the girls game, and signs for the guys game about taking down the #1 CNU.  It was the night if when the girls beat CNU to clinch the #1 seed and to win the conference.  If you are talking about the game on 2/17.

There isn't support for anything on campus really, from the cafeteria to sporting events.

I will make it change this year.  The cafeteria is just out of luck though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2006, 04:07:45 PM
Congrats to Torrey Lowe on making Football Gazette Preseason All-American the full team can be found here. AP player


http://www.donhansen.com/AA/2006/2006%20Football%20Gazette%20NCAA%20III%20Pre-season%20AA%20Team.pdf  (http://www.donhansen.com/AA/2006/2006%20Football%20Gazette%20NCAA%20III%20Pre-season%20AA%20Team.pdf)

Go Pride!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on July 24, 2006, 04:30:44 PM
Congrats to Colby Townsend on being named a pre-season All American by D3 football.com and Football Gazette.  Hopefully the Scots can use their experience to turn some of those close losses into victories this season. Can't wait until camp starts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 24, 2006, 04:44:07 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2006, 04:07:45 PM
Congrats to Torrey Lowe on making Football Gazette Preseason All-American the full team can be found here.

If there weren't almost 290 players on that Gazette team it might be meaningful.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2006, 04:58:23 PM
Pat-

You know what, you are right.  Where is that they have Rob Rodriguez as honorable mention and d3football as Preseason 2nd-Team.  I agree more with d3footbal because he is a talented player.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on July 24, 2006, 05:52:16 PM
And also the fact that the football gazatte team always comes out after the d3 football.com team has been named. To me it is quite obivious who spends more time and has more knowledge of d3 football ( d3football.com of course.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 24, 2006, 10:51:03 PM
Highlander-No ingratiating tonight please. Coleman's head is as big as Alpha Centauri now.  ;)


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2006, 11:50:47 PM
Highlander you are right I think d3football is better informed.

abnrgr-let highlander talk highly of Pat all highlander wants...It my job to disagree with Pat Coleman...am I right Pat  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on July 25, 2006, 10:20:04 AM
Just took a look at the football gazette preseason all-americans. WOW Are they trying not to hurt anyone's feelings? That my friends is a LONG DAMN LIST! I much prefer the toned down version we find on this site.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on July 25, 2006, 01:05:31 PM

And, out of  290 players, there are only TWO players from North Carolina . . . . I think Hansen is too busy with the other NCAA levels and NAIA to be able to do anything other than look at returning AA lists and All-conference lists. IMHO
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 25, 2006, 02:19:13 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on July 25, 2006, 01:05:31 PM

And, out of  290 players, there are only TWO players from North Carolina . . . . I think Hansen is too busy with the other NCAA levels and NAIA to be able to do anything other than look at returning AA lists and All-conference lists. IMHO

... and who are the two from NC?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2006, 06:42:19 PM
Dang - If I can count, Lebanon Valley has 4 All-Americans. Not bad for a 2-8 team!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 25, 2006, 08:18:40 PM
I got a quick question here.  How much of D3 football schools are drug tested?  I don't think it is too big of a problem.  I know USA South drug tests. So i just want to know how level is the playing field is in d3 football.  I know players in a different conference those players were using steroids because they didn't test.  I know they test once you get to the playoffs am I right on that.  I just want to know how many of those schools that have all-americans test for steroids.  I am not going to take anything from those players, because i am sure they are all clean.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 25, 2006, 10:05:03 PM
Good luck to everyone in the USAC this year.  I will be rooting for the Pride every game but once.  I have enjoyed discussing football with you guys over the years and if you want any more of my bogus opinions then you can email me at imosher@gborocollege.edu 

Godspeed,

Go GC!    (which one?)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on July 25, 2006, 10:07:58 PM
Best of luck to you Mosh. :)
Title: MOSHER
Post by: abnrgr on July 25, 2006, 11:10:56 PM
Mosh
Where you going? You go to stay here and suffer...............
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on July 26, 2006, 08:36:17 AM
CNU85, I tallied Don's AA by school and what positions they were;

Adrian      2   KR   LB                     
Albion      1   DE                        
Alfred      9   DB   DE   DT   OL   P   PK   QB   RB   WR
Allegheny   2   P   RB                     
Amherst      1   AP                        
Anderson   1   RB                        
Augustana   2   FB   LB                     
Averett      1   RB                        
Baldwin-Wallace   2   DB   P                     
Beloit      1   RB                        
Bethel      5   DE   LB   OL   OL   RB            
Bridgewater   1   DB                        
Bridgewater St.   1   DT                        
Brockport   5   DT   DT   OL   PK   TE            
Capital      2   DB   PK                     
Carleton   2   KR   WR                     
Carnegie Mellon   2   DB   FB                     
Case Western   2   DB   LB                     
Central      1   DB                        
Centre      1   LB                        
Chicago      1   OL                        
Claremont-Mudd   1   DB                        
CNU      1   DB                        
Coast Guard   1   P                        
Coe      2   AP   QB                     
Colby      1   DB                        
Colorado   2   DB   QB                     
Con.-Moorhead   1   RB                        
Cornell      2   LB   LB                     
Cortland   5   DB   DB   DT   LB   LB            
Curry      2   DT   LB                     
Defiance   4   DB   LB   QB   WR               
Delaware Valley   7   DB   DE   LB   LB   OL   PK   WR      
DePauw      2   OL   RB                     
Dickinson   1   DB                        
Earlham      1   QB                        
E. Texas Bap.   3   DE   LB   RB                  
Ferrum      2   QB   TE                     
Gettysburg   3   LB   OL   RB                  
Greensboro   1   AP                        
Guilford   3   P   QB   WR                  
Gus. Adolphus   1   LB                        
Hamline      1   DB                        
Hanover      1   QB                        
Hardin-Simmons   4   DB   DE   KR   OL               
Hartwick   3   AP   QB   RB                  
Hobart      1   QB                        
Hope      2   DE   LB                     
Howard Payne   6   LB   LB   P   QB   WR   WR         
Ill. Wesleyan   4   DE   KR   RB   WR               
Ithaca      2   OL   PK                     
John Carroll   1   WR                        
Johns Hopkins   4   DE   LB   PK   WR               
Kenyon      1   RB                        
King's      1   LB                        
Lebanon Valley   4   KR   OL   QB   WR               
Linfield   4   DT   DT   OL   P               
Louisiana Col.   1   WR                        
Luther College   2   OL   WR                     
Lycoming   1   DB                        
MacMurray   1   LB                        
Maranatha BB   2   LB   QB                     
Mary H-Baylor   4   DB   LB   P   RB               
Maryville   1   DT                        
Mass.-Dartmouth   1   TE                        
McDaniel   1   DB                        
Merchant Marine   4   DB   DE   LB   PK               
Methodist   1   LB                        
Millikin   4   DB   DT   P   RB               
Mississippi   2   DT   P                     
Monmouth   3   DE   KR   WR                  
Montclair State   2   DB   LB                     
Mount Union   3   QB   RB   RB                  
Mt. St. Joseph   5   DE   LB   OL   PK   RB            
North Central   4   DB   OL   QB   TE               
Oberlin      3   DE   PK   WR                  
Occidental   2   LB   QB                     
Ohio Northern   2   DB   OL                     
Ohio Wesleyan   5   DB   DE   OL   OL   RB            
Otterbein   2   LB   QB                     
Pac. Lutheran   1   WR                        
Plymouth State   1   DB                        
Randolph-Macon   1   DE                        
Redlands   3   DB   OL   WR                  
Rochester   1   RB                        
Rockford   2   DB   LB                     
Rose-Hulman   1   LB                        
Rowan      3   DE   DE   QB                  
RPI      3   KR   RB   TE                  
Sewanee      2   LB   RB                     
Springfield   1   LB                        
St. John Fisher   1   LB                        
St. John's   2   DE   WR                     
St. Norbert   1   LB                        
St. Olaf   3   DE   PK   WR                  
St. Thomas   2   RB   WR                     
Texas Lutheran   3   DB   KR   WR                  
Thiel      2   DB   RB                     
Thomas More   3   DB   LB   OL                  
Trinity (CT)   2   LB   RB                     
Trinity (TX)   2   DT   LB                     
Union      6   DE   LB   QB   RB   WR   WR         
UW-Eau Claire   1   P                        
UW-La Crosse   2   DB   DB                     
UW-Oshkosh   5   DB   DE   LB   OL   RB            
UW-River Falls   3   LB   OL   RB                  
UW-Stevens Pt   1   DE                        
UW-Stout   2   OL   WR                     
UW-Whitewater   5   DT   OL   OL   QB   RB            
W&J      2   DB   OL                     
W&L      3   AP   KR   WR                  
WNEC      1   RB                        
Wabash      1   LB                        
Wartburg   3   DB   RB   WR                  
Washington   1   DE                        
Waynesburg   2   DE   RB                     
Wesley      3   DB   DE   OL                  
Western Conn.   1   KR                        
Wheaton      2   DB   DE                     
Whitworth   3   DB   QB   TE                  
Widener      1   DB                        
Wilkes      3   DT   LB   TE                  
Willamette   1   OL                        
William Patt.   1   LB                        
Williams   4   LB   OL   P   WR               
Wisc. Lutheran   1   RB                  
Wittenberg   1   RB                  
Wooster      1   DE                     
Worcester St.   2   DB   PK            
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on July 26, 2006, 09:38:21 AM
CNU has implemented its own drug testing program seperate from everything and everyone else. Its mandatory and random and done numerous times of year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on July 26, 2006, 10:18:12 AM
Quote from: hasanova on July 25, 2006, 02:19:13 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on July 25, 2006, 01:05:31 PM

And, out of  290 players, there are only TWO players from North Carolina . . . . I think Hansen is too busy with the other NCAA levels and NAIA to be able to do anything other than look at returning AA lists and All-conference lists. IMHO

... and who are the two from NC?

Ferrum QB Jermaine Pitts from Winston-Salem and Greensboro WR Torrey Lowe from Southern Pines.



GO PRIDE ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 26, 2006, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on July 26, 2006, 10:18:12 AM
Quote from: hasanova on July 25, 2006, 02:19:13 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on July 25, 2006, 01:05:31 PM

And, out of  290 players, there are only TWO players from North Carolina . . . . I think Hansen is too busy with the other NCAA levels and NAIA to be able to do anything other than look at returning AA lists and All-conference lists. IMHO

... and who are the two from NC?

Ferrum QB Jermaine Pitts from Winston-Salem and Greensboro WR Torrey Lowe from Southern Pines.



GO PRIDE ! ! !
Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 26, 2006, 04:08:32 PM
good job Kid...how about a sort based on # of All-Americans??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on July 26, 2006, 04:31:01 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 26, 2006, 04:08:32 PM
good job Kid...how about a sort based on # of All-Americans??

Alfred   9   DB   DE   DT   OL   P   PK   QB   RB   WR         
Delaware Valley   7   DB   DE   LB   LB   OL   PK   WR               
Howard Payne   6   LB   LB   P   QB   WR   WR                  
Union   6   DE   LB   QB   RB   WR   WR                  
Bethel   5   DE   LB   OL   OL   RB                     
Brockport   5   DT   DT   OL   PK   TE                     
Cortland   5   DB   DB   DT   LB   LB                     
Mt. St. Joseph   5   DE   LB   OL   PK   RB                     
Ohio Wesleyan   5   DB   DE   OL   OL   RB                     
UW-Oshkosh   5   DB   DE   LB   OL   RB                     
UW-Whitewater   5   DT   OL   OL   QB   RB                     
Defiance   4   DB   LB   QB   WR                        
Hardin-Simmons   4   DB   DE   KR   OL                        
Illinois Wesleyan   4   DE   KR   RB   WR                        
Johns Hopkins   4   DE   LB   PK   WR                        
Lebanon Valley   4   KR   OL   QB   WR                        
Linfield   4   DT   DT   OL   P                        
Mary Hardin-Baylor   4   DB   LB   P   RB                        
Merchant Marine   4   DB   DE   LB   PK                        
Millikin   4   DB   DT   P   RB                        
North Central   4   DB   OL   QB   TE                        
Williams   4   LB   OL   P   WR                        
East Texas Baptist   3   DE   LB   RB                           
Gettysburg   3   LB   OL   RB                           
Guilford   3   P   QB   WR                           
Hartwick   3   AP   QB   RB                           
Monmouth   3   DE   KR   WR                           
Mount Union   3   QB   RB   RB                           
Oberlin   3   DE   PK   WR                           
Redlands   3   DB   OL   WR                           
Rowan   3   DE   DE   QB                           
RPI   3   KR   RB   TE                           
St. Olaf   3   DE   PK   WR                           
Texas Lutheran   3   DB   KR   WR                           
Thomas More   3   DB   LB   OL                           
UW-River Falls   3   LB   OL   RB                           
W&L   3   AP   KR   WR                           
Wartburg   3   DB   RB   WR                           
Wesley   3   DB   DE   OL                           
Whitworth   3   DB   QB   TE                           
Wilkes   3   DT   LB   TE                           
Adrian   2   KR   LB                              
Allegheny   2   P   RB                              
Augustana   2   FB   LB                              
Baldwin-Wallace   2   DB   P                              
Capital   2   DB   PK                              
Carleton   2   KR   WR                              
Carnegie Mellon   2   DB   FB                              
Case Western   2   DB   LB                              
Coe   2   AP   QB                              
Colorado   2   DB   QB                              
Cornell   2   LB   LB                              
Curry   2   DT   LB                              
DePauw   2   OL   RB                              
Ferrum   2   QB   TE                              
Hope   2   DE   LB                              
Ithaca   2   OL   PK                              
Luther College   2   OL   WR                              
Maranatha BB   2   LB   QB                              
Mississippi   2   DT   P                              
Montclair State   2   DB   LB                              
Occidental   2   LB   QB                              
Ohio Northern   2   DB   OL                              
Otterbein   2   LB   QB                              
Rockford   2   DB   LB                              
Sewanee   2   LB   RB                              
St. John's   2   DE   WR                              
St. Thomas   2   RB   WR                              
Thiel   2   DB   RB                              
Trinity (CT)   2   LB   RB                              
Trinity (TX)   2   DT   LB                              
UW-La Crosse   2   DB   DB                              
UW-Stout   2   OL   WR                              
W&J   2   DB   OL                              
Waynesburg   2   DE   RB                              
Wheaton   2   DB   DE                              
Worcester State   2   DB   PK                              
Albion   1   DE                                 
Amherst   1   AP                                 
Anderson   1   RB                                 
Averett   1   RB                                 
Beloit   1   RB                                 
Bridgewater (Va.)   1   DB                                 
Bridgewater St.   1   DT                                 
Central   1   DB                                 
Centre   1   LB                                 
Chicago   1   OL                                 
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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CBE on July 26, 2006, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: eh ... just call me 'kid' on July 26, 2006, 04:31:01 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 26, 2006, 04:08:32 PM
good job Kid...how about a sort based on # of All-Americans??

I guess Mrs Kid is working.......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on July 27, 2006, 08:32:12 AM
Quote from: CBE on July 26, 2006, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: eh ... just call me 'kid' on July 26, 2006, 04:31:01 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 26, 2006, 04:08:32 PM
good job Kid...how about a sort based on # of All-Americans??

I guess Mrs Kid is working.......

That and I tallied it in Excel, so it was quick to sort. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 27, 2006, 01:11:12 PM
Okay Kid you're sharp, I'll admit it  but can you sort them by GPA when Mars is closest to Earth in 2260. ;)

I find it surprizing that Ferrum with their history of winning with only 2. A punter for Guilford is not surprizing. The WR was a 2 time AA I believe. I know only counts as one.

Is ESPN is your future?!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 27, 2006, 01:26:35 PM
Does anyone know which schools in D-III that don't drug test year round? NCAA has gotten back to me on a list yet.

Other news, d3football players might have a better chance of continuing thier careers.  They can put on their resume that they were an AA based on Football Gazette list haha.  SPRING FOOTBALL LEAUGE.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5818666?FSO1&ATT=HMA
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 27, 2006, 05:25:15 PM
why are schools' names listed on the AA  spelled out... Gustavus Adolphus, Wisconsin Lutheran, Mary Hardin-Baylor......and Christopher Newport is abbreviated as CNU?

I know about CNU...what about the fan in Oregon.....trying to figure out who the heck is CNU....

points to ponder when you had beer at lunch!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 27, 2006, 05:48:22 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 27, 2006, 05:25:15 PM
why are schools' names listed on the AA  spelled out... Gustavus Adolphus, Wisconsin Lutheran, Mary Hardin-Baylor......and Christopher Newport is abbreviated as CNU?

I know about CNU...what about the fan in Oregon.....trying to figure out who the heck is CNU....

points to ponder when you had beer at lunch!

You know ChristopherNewportUniversity85, I was wondering the same thing. ??? :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 28, 2006, 09:54:31 AM
Ralph...I had too many beers at lunch......and you have too much Karma!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 28, 2006, 10:40:15 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 28, 2006, 09:54:31 AM
Ralph...I had too many beers at lunch......and you have too much Karma!

:D :D :D!

+1 CNU85!

:D :D :D!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: religion_major on July 28, 2006, 03:03:02 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 25, 2006, 08:18:40 PM
I got a quick question here.  How much of D3 football schools are drug tested?  I don't think it is too big of a problem.  I know USA South drug tests. So i just want to know how level is the playing field is in d3 football.  I know players in a different conference those players were using steroids because they didn't test.  I know they test once you get to the playoffs am I right on that.  I just want to know how many of those schools that have all-americans test for steroids.  I am not going to take anything from those players, because i am sure they are all clean.
Pride,
Your right that all sports test for drugs in playoffs.  For this year coming up Bridgewater has implemented a mandatory random drug testing program across its athletic program.  It will be implemented in the 2006-2007 school year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 28, 2006, 10:23:36 PM
anyone know what Justin Wood is doing this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 28, 2006, 10:33:34 PM
this season is going to be a real test for Kelchner and CNU. Not many returning starters and a schedule that could destroy confidence in the younger guys.  A true test...it'll be fun to watch how everyone handles the season...including people who post on here.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 31, 2006, 10:11:23 AM
CNU85-

Maybe you can tell me this. If not someone can.  What time is the Football Media day tomorrow.  It is listed on the usasouth website as being tomorrow.  I would like to listen to it.  How fast will it be archived.  Just in case I don't get to listen to it.

Has CNU always had a winning seasons.  I would expect the players not returning starters but returners to be solid either way.  I get a feeling CNU knows what they are doing, because they continue to have a good players year in and year out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 31, 2006, 11:22:30 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 31, 2006, 10:11:23 AM
What time is the Football Media day tomorrow.  It is listed on the usasouth website as being tomorrow.

Media Day begins at 10:30 a.m. tomorrow. The only mention of its start time on the USAC site that I saw is near the bottom of coach's poll news release.

http://www.usasouth.net/news/06footballpoll.htm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on August 01, 2006, 10:53:48 AM
The link for the webcast for the USA South media day will be up on Shenandoah's athletic site in about 10 mins. The media day has not started as of 1053 am ET.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 01, 2006, 12:12:04 PM
Pridesport......you got the answers on the media day coverage. Now to your question about CNU having winning season.....CNU has NEVER had a season at or below .500. They have beena round 5 seasons and compiled records of 5-4; 6-5; 8-3; 9-3; and 6-4. They are the only team at any NCAA level to go to the playoffs int heir first eyar of existence....and obviously the only team to go to the post season in each of its first 4 years.

Reality is - the league was new, a few teams had only played one year (or just a few years) longer than CNU. The league has "caught up" with CNU as evidenced by the fact that CNU did not make the post season last year.

This year CNU opens against top 20 teams Rowan, Mary Hardin Baylor, and Salisbury. Then they go into conference play where EVERYBODY has gotten better. 2005 was the first eyar CNU lost 2 conference games in the same season and the first time they have lost to a team from NC.

Averett is tough, so is Ferrum, NC Weslyan is a new program that made some noise last year, and of course Methodist beat CNU last year. While SU was down, they still have the edge in the series vs CNU.

I agree with you that CNU seems to have it together and the coaches know what they are doing. This will be the toughest year EVER for the coaches. The first year, they had the element of surprise and the energy around a new program (6,100+ fans in the inaugural game).

But this year is different...many many starters are gone from last years 6-4 team. I'm sure there will be a few surprises for the fans this year...sophomores who got some playing time will step it up and be a nice addition. Some Freshman will come in tearng things up......but those first 3 games are KILLERS!!!!

That's why I love this game and have season tickets!







Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 01, 2006, 03:11:53 PM
CNU85-
Yeah those games are tough.  I think CNU will live through it.  I know salisbury, since i am from around that area.  They hype up alot of sports there.  They are a very talented state school don't get me wrong.  Lacrosse lets not forget.  They shut the street down as the players walk to the field, that is a sight to see. CNU will win at least one of those first 3 games. I hope it is Salisbury.  I am ready for the season to start either way.

In other note, that AA list, I know for a fact that one of those schools that had a real bad record last year used steroids becuase they didn't test.  The ones I know aren't all AA's, but i can't say it for those that made the list.  They should test year round.  Those bad teams don't have to worry about the NCAA come playoff time.  They won't make it to the playoffs.  So you never know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 01, 2006, 03:43:59 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 01, 2006, 03:11:53 PM
I know for a fact that one of those schools that had a real bad record last year used steroids becuase they didn't test. 

That's a pretty big assumption to say that just because a school doesn't test that the players are abusing steroids.  I'm not saying there may not be a few kids doing it but to say that kids are abusing steroids because they aren't being tested is a stretch.


I remember one year somebody from the NCAA came and spoke to us about what was legal/illegal.  He said that having more than the caffeine in 8 cups of coffee was in violation.  I drink more than 8 cups of coffee before 8am these days.  Narch, I guess I can't come suit up this year  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 01, 2006, 03:59:52 PM
papi-

An in direct conversation from the school I know.  He graduated a couple years before me.  He told me to juice up. I said I couldn't because my school tests for it.  He said that sucked.  Assumtion either way I understand.  Just can't rule it out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: obnoxioussufan on August 01, 2006, 04:26:25 PM



Are we ready for some football?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: obnoxioussufan on August 01, 2006, 04:28:05 PM


Heard todays media day was eight coaches posturing and talking and saying NOTHING. whats the real scoop guys?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 01, 2006, 06:22:08 PM
Papi
I know GC-Q did it in 2003. They picked out my kid. He had to urinate. I guess that was an NCAA check?

They pick out a couple of guys a year it sounds like to me. I do not know for sure the frequency of it.

They called me from the stands and I had to piss.  Those were state troopers I think.  ;)

I know Skoal has pissed more than once. heh 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 01, 2006, 09:21:14 PM
papi - i know you said you used to run the option, but the few times i saw you tuck it and run while at mc...well, let's just say you could have used a little more caffeine - that being said, i sure would like it if you had another year of eligibility :)

obnoxious - here's some juice - the monarchs will be replacing one of the best qb's in the history of the conference this fall...i'm hearing there is a frosh who is already in summer school that could push the returners and make it a 3-way battle...we'll see in a few weeks - don'tcha love this time of year :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 01, 2006, 10:21:05 PM
Narch
I think I saw Papi tuck a couple times and that black hat got him. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 02, 2006, 08:11:43 AM
I asked the ncaa to tell me what schools in D-III test.  The anwser I got was this.  (An expected anwser because one will ever get the anwser one wants.)

The NCAA tests at championships in all three NCAA divisions.  NCAA
championship drug testing includes tests for steroids, masking agents,
diuretics, stimulants, peptide hormones and analogues, and street drugs.


Schools and conferences may also conduct their own testing, separate
from what the NCAA does, and what they test for is up to them.

abnrgr-
GC-Q had their own policy then. 

NCAA doesn't test D-III year round it is up to the school to put in their own policy in place.  It still doesn't anwser my question of which schools test in NCAA to those that don't at the D-III level.  In my opinion they should test every level year round.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Stillhot4Farah on August 02, 2006, 08:35:33 AM
Hola ...Pride Alum...my first post...and a question...

One of my classmates says he hears that the admin is pondering a move upward into D2 within the next 3-5 years. This is a persistant rumor because I heard it last year. I find it kind of interesting that we kick off the season with D2 S.A.C. member Mars Hill.

Could we be headed to the S.A.C.? That conference itself is facing some upheaval with the departure of Presbyterian College (Clinton, SC) for D-1AA's Big South Conference in 2007. Besides Mars Hill other members of the S.A.C. are Carson Newman (near Knox. TN), Catawba (Salisbury, NC), Wingate (Wingate, NC), Lenoir Rhyne (Hickory, NC), Newberry (Newberry SC) and Tusculum (east TN)

Considering the cost involved with football scholarships in D2 and upgrades in equipment, stadium and added personel would the change benefit us?

It is also interesting to note that 3 new football program startups will commence with the 2007 year in NC and none are D3. They are Campbell, UNC-Pembroke and Brevard. This fact alone gives reason to consider the rumor as reliable since our selection of opponents is already very limited and liable to decrease rather than increase.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on August 02, 2006, 09:07:40 AM
Quote from: Stillhot4Farah on August 02, 2006, 08:35:33 AM
[...] a move upward into D2 [...]

We Division III fans like to say "a move downward." :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 02, 2006, 09:24:32 AM
Stillhot4Farah - Moving to DII is a big commitment - in money, scholarships, facilities, personnel, travel.  Personally, as relatively small as the school currently is, I don't see how such a move would benefit the Pride that much.  Besides, they are not being overly successful right now with winning at the DIII level - DII will be even tougher.  Maybe, however, the administration has a Master Plan for overall growth of which I am not aware.

The other NC schools you mentioned, Campbell, UNC-P and Brevard, are starting football, but I think they'll be at a DIII competitive level for a while.  I know the Camels are going DI-AA non-scholarship, which makes them on a par with many DIII programs.  UNC-P seems to aiming at DII, with options to be an independent, join the SAC or join the CIAA.  The BC Tornados are going from the NAIA to DII provisional, but it takes a while to ramp up.  I wouldn't be surprised if they apply to the SAC (it's their best geographic fit), although Lincoln Memorial in Tennessee has already joined to fill the void left by Presbyterian.

In DC, AL, VA, NC, SC, GA and TN, there are about 20 DIII football programs plus Davidson (also DI-AA non-scholarship), Campbell, Chowan and UNC-P.  Looks like an adequate number of scheduling options to me.  Besides, if you're in a conference with 7 annual opponents, you only need 3 other games a year and Guilford is always one of those. I might add, an annual game with Guilford has the added bonus of no real travel costs.  Your team bus can go to Guilford College as easily as it can go to Jameson Stadium for a home game.

Maybe Greensboro's thinking in the DII direction, but I just don't see it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 02, 2006, 10:45:03 AM
I am a current student at GC-Pride.  I can't see how they would be moving up, they need to show that they are a force and I hope they will be. The only school in this conference I think can move up is CNU.  They have some of the best facilities in conference.  GC will surely have the facilities once that new athletic field is built.  The only plan of that anywhere is in the schools main building.  RUMORS is all it is.  Maybe they are moving up, but RUMORS get spread all the time.  Like how we interviewed Bobby Cremins to coach basketball a couple years ago.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 02, 2006, 11:00:27 AM

IMO - It's all about the money. If they have the money or know how to get it, then they can consider D-II and it might be a good move, despite their recent lack of success (which I believe can change this year).

A good school with a supportive administration can build a good team pretty quickly with scholly money. But I haven't heard a peep about a move and they did lose their OC to an NAIA school in Tx.



Roll Pride ! ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 02, 2006, 01:03:39 PM
We've heard those rumors at CNU. This was afew years ago.  Funny though, that nobody heard the Chowan rumor until after the conference gave them the boot (although maybe Pat and his gang had some insider knowledge).

Meanwhile - suit up, cross the white lines..and play some ball! Or in my case...wake up, drive a couple of miles, buy a hot dog and a pepsi and watch some young guys play some ball!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 02, 2006, 03:21:19 PM
I heard a rumor that yesterday there was a media day for football haha.  I wasn't able to catch it.  I am very interested in hearing it.  Is there any school that has archived it yet.  I know last year it was taped.  I am sure obnoxioussufan is right

8 coaches talking and saying nothing, but a smart caoch doesn't give anything away.  Its the name of the game.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 02, 2006, 04:08:41 PM
Media Day Comments:

Insert name of any coach: It's a competitive conference and getting tougher each year. Not much separates the top 4-5 teams in the league. As for our team, we have a good core of returning players. We hope to add some talent when practice opens, but it's difficult to know who will actually show up. We hope to be competitive but we have to take it one game at a time. We're excited about the upcoming season. If we can execute our game plans we should be ok. But that's why we play the game.

yada yada yada......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 02, 2006, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 02, 2006, 04:08:41 PM
Media Day Comments:

Insert name of any coach: It's a competitive conference and getting tougher each year. Not much separates the top 4-5 teams in the league. As for our team, we have a good core of returning players. We hope to add some talent when practice opens, but it's difficult to know who will actually show up. We hope to be competitive but we have to take it one game at a time. We're excited about the upcoming season. If we can execute our game plans we should be ok. But that's why we play the game.

yada yada yada......
Good recap.  Where have I heard this before?  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 02, 2006, 05:47:41 PM
CNU85- Enough said good recap, but are you sure there weren't many more clichés in those speechs.

Football season can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 02, 2006, 09:19:36 PM
you guys don't listen to jim sypult enough...he comes straight from the lou holtz "tell 'em like it is" school of public speaking...he says what he thinks and he's usually pretty straight forward and honest - in previous years i've posted his quotes...don't have any nuggets from media day this year, but i'll bet he was entertaining
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BEAR 75 on August 03, 2006, 08:51:06 AM
jim sypult is always honest in his opinions. he is probably the best coach in usa south. he has a very good staff with the best offensive coordinator in conference. don't count the monarchs out just yet.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 03, 2006, 01:51:14 PM
I was refering to coaches in general.  There are alot of coaches out there that don't come out straight forward.  As I former player, I have seen many of coaches that haven't. CNU85 did a good recap of the sterotype of coaches.  I haven't heard Jim Sypult speak, so as I was expressing my opinion of coaches.  Jim Mora was straight forward too.  One word comes to mind "Playoffs,"  But it seems to me that posting here you can't express your opinion like Jim Sypult.


-nova back in Greensboro...Its pride all the way now haha.  Less then a month away until the Souper Bowl.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 03, 2006, 02:12:30 PM
NEW QB AT METHODIST

Methodist, which was conference co-champion with Ferrum in 2005, is looking to replace standout quarterback Chris Roncketti. Coach Jim Sypult recruited two freshmen, either of whom he said could start.

"Our expectation is to contend for the title and win it outright," Sypult said, displaying his team's colors with his green shirt and tie and yellow sport coat.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 03, 2006, 02:15:06 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 03, 2006, 01:51:14 PMnova back in Greensboro...Its pride all the way now haha.  Less then a month away until the Souper Bowl.

It definitely should be another interesting game, but I hope it's not "pride all the way now."  You can win the other nine this fall, but it's our turn to even the series at 5-5.  Besides, it's our Homecoming.  lol  You must mean less than a month until the season starts, because it's 58 days until the Souper Bowl on Sept 30.  When kickoff gets this close, hey, we all get a little antsy.  :)  Go Quakers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 04, 2006, 05:29:51 PM
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if for some reason you cant get in using the ID#/password email me and i will send you a invite.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 04, 2006, 09:40:22 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 03, 2006, 02:12:30 PM
NEW QB AT METHODIST

Methodist, which was conference co-champion with Ferrum in 2005, is looking to replace standout quarterback Chris Roncketti. Coach Jim Sypult recruited two freshmen, either of whom he said could start.

"Our expectation is to contend for the title and win it outright," Sypult said, displaying his team's colors with his green shirt and tie and yellow sport coat.


'85 - where did you get that tidbit...or did you make it up?  if you made it up, it clearly sounds like something coach sy would say...you chanelled him well
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 04, 2006, 09:43:04 PM
not 100% but I think that was in the Daily Press
Title: Schedule Strength
Post by: Eh-You on August 06, 2006, 05:32:40 PM
Is there a tougher schedule in the country than Averett's & what are your thoughts about a schedule like that? National champ - another top 10 team - another '06 playoff team - 2 more playoff teams from '05 - plus the nations leading passing offense in '06 (I think Guilford) 
Mount Union H
Wesley College A
Guilford College H
Ferrum College H
Methodist College A
NC Wesleyan College A
Greensboro College H
Shenandoah University A
Christopher Newport University A
Maryville College H
Title: Re: Schedule Strength
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 06, 2006, 06:42:07 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on August 06, 2006, 05:32:40 PM
Is there a tougher schedule in the country than Averett's & what are your thoughts about a schedule like that? National champ - another top 10 team - another '06 playoff team - 2 more playoff teams from '05 - plus the nations leading passing offense in '06 (I think Guilford) 
Mount Union H               Stagg finalist UW-Whitewater-Home
Wesley College A           Hardin-Simmons-Home
Guilford College H              2003 playoffs ETBU-Away  RV Tied#54
Ferrum College  RV #39  H     Howard Payne RV #33-Home
Methodist College A
NC Wesleyan College A
Greensboro College H
Shenandoah University A
Christopher Newport University A  RV Tied #43  CNU-Away
Maryville College H

I think we would need to see how the rest of the SOS/RPI matches up to compare UMHB and Averett.  UMHB catches most of the toughest foes at home.  I personally think that the ASC is a tougher football conference than the USAC down the line.  We can match the ASC-9 vs the USAC-8 for some type of RPI.

As for passing offenses that UMHB will play in 2006, the 2005 team passing offense team leaders on the UMHB schedule include #2 Louisiana College, #13 Texas Lutheran, #26 Sul Ross State, #28 UW-Whitewater, #29 Howard Payne, and #35 Hardin-Simmons.  Averett is facing the 2005 #5 Guilford, #20 Mount Union and #30 Wesley.

To whom were you referring as the '06 playoff team?

If Averett is 2-1 thru the first 3 weeks, I think that they are in the Top 25.
Title: Re: Schedule Strength
Post by: narch on August 06, 2006, 09:15:03 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 06, 2006, 06:42:07 PM
If Averett is 2-1 thru the first 3 weeks, I think that they are in the Top 25.

if averett is 1-2 after the first 3 weeks, they should be jumping for joy...there isn't a slouch among those first 3 teams (including the quackers) and a win in any of those games would be a good win

i'll say this...if they play mount and wesley tough, watch out usasac, 'cause they'll be a confident bunch - personally, i hope the cougars go 0-4 to start the season and have their spirits crushed and simply roll over in game 5 :)

seriously, i hope they do well in those games and rep the conference a little
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 06, 2006, 09:26:07 PM
Well Guys I'm back, and gearing up for another season of Panther Football. I have to admit, I am surprised at the preseason selection of FC finishing 1st in the USASAC. I dont think they have what it takes to take the title, but I am hopeful. I think we will know alot more after the 9/16 game against Bridgewater.
If they are 2-0 after that, I will reevaluate things.

I think that there are alot of areas for concern, they need to improve greatly in :

Secondary
Offensive Line (Not many returning)
Special Teams
Passing game (they need a more balanced offensive attack)

Not sure how many are aware that Hank Norton...Ferrum's long time coach was inducted into the Virginia Sports Hall of Fame during the offseason.

I really would like to see D-3 Sports.com do a feature write up on him and his accomplishments/induction. Norton went 244-77-11 in 34 seasons at Ferrum between 1960 and 1993 This included 4 National Junior College Championships, and once as runner up

I doubt there are many anywhere with better numbers.

Hey Pat, what do you think about a D3 article?


Good luck to all the teams, and I look forward to your posts!
Title: Ralph - let me clean up my mess................
Post by: Eh-You on August 06, 2006, 11:30:24 PM
I meant to say 3 playoff teams from '05 (Ferrum, Wesley, Mount Union) and 2 playoff teams from '04 (CNU & SU) Sorry for the confusion. It's a wee bit early for me to be calling teams '06 playoff teams huh?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 07, 2006, 12:51:08 AM
Thanks for the clarification.

I also thought about finding an OAC team with a tough schedule as well!

Good luck to Averett!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 07, 2006, 11:44:32 AM
I never paid attention to the AU schedule. It is tough. Here's a question to debate.....which schedule (1st 3 games) do you think is tougher - AU or CNU

AU - Mt Union, Wesley, Guilford
CNU - Rowan, Mary Hardin Baylor, Salisbury

Anyone notice 3 conference teams got votes in the preseason poll - doesn't mean much....other than I think it's the first time ever???? Or is it?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 07, 2006, 11:59:29 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 07, 2006, 11:44:32 AM
I never paid attention to the AU schedule. It is tough. Here's a question to debate.....which schedule (1st 3 games) do you think is tougher - AU or CNU

AU - Mt Union, Wesley, Guilford
CNU - Rowan, Mary Hardin Baylor, Salisbury

Anyone notice 3 conference teams got votes in the preseason poll - doesn't mean much....other than I think it's the first time ever???? Or is it?
Wow, both are tough rows to hoe!  Any predictions on AU and CNU's records after three games?  Personally, I don't see either team starting 3-0.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 08, 2006, 08:39:42 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 07, 2006, 11:44:32 AM
which schedule (1st 3 games) do you think is tougher - AU or CNU

AU - Mt Union, Wesley, Guilford
CNU - Rowan, Mary Hardin Baylor, Salisbury

let's quantify that question with d3football.com pre-season rankings
au - #1, #8, NR
cnu - #3, #6, #40

i'd say based on pre-season rankings, cnu plays a slightly tougher schedule, but guilford and salisbury are both wild-cards - let me say this...i'd love to see the monarchs playing EITHER schedule - chowan, ehc and guilford just aren't as exciting as the teams au and cnu are playing...of course, the monarchs could legitimately win all 3 of those games and i don't think cnu or au will have more than 1 win after 3 games, and both could be 0-3

Quote from: CNU85 on August 07, 2006, 11:44:32 AM
Anyone notice 3 conference teams got votes in the preseason poll - doesn't mean much....other than I think it's the first time ever???? Or is it?

didn't notice it until you pointed it out, but i can't recall 3 usasac teams in the pre-season poll...shows the conference is getting a little more respect...now the teams in the conference need to back it up
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 09, 2006, 12:00:21 PM

It's time!! Finally ! !

The Pride report today.

I would appreciate any updates of any kind from the preseason practices. Wish I could be there, but I can't and I am envious of those that can. I believe there is some real excitement about this season among the players. I would love to hear how the first few practices go and if that is true.

THANKS!!


ROLL PRIDE ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 09, 2006, 12:11:59 PM
Former Greensboro football Head Coach Marion Kirby (now Guilford AD) named to HoF:

http://www.guilford.edu/athletics/index.cfm?ID=a002142
Title: This just in from Averett.................
Post by: Eh-You on August 11, 2006, 09:32:41 AM
Team pictures and lunch were yesterday and I was told that Todd Parsons was in uniform. Details are fuzzy but something about the NCAA granting him another year of elig. That might be HUGE!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 15, 2006, 12:31:04 AM
Narch
How does that QB "controversy" look at MC? ANybody get hard this week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 15, 2006, 01:59:01 AM

I read today that Greensboro got a new OC . . . anyone know anything about him? What the school said on their website sounded pretty good.

Also, how are the Pride practices looking so far? Last I heard the players were pretty excited about their potential for this year. Anything or anyone standing out?

I did hear they had four new QBs to join the returning senior - five QBs! They're probably attracted by GC's talented skill players - RB, WR, etc. Would greatly appreciate any news . . . .

I'm gonna try to get up there this weekend and hope to see some hitting.

Any comments on their strengths and/or weaknesses this season?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 15, 2006, 10:07:19 PM
Narch, any reports out of MC camp?  How's that Fayettnam heat treating the freshman.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 16, 2006, 08:42:41 AM
Back Finally...I have been getting stuff together for GC the past couple of weeks. I still go there and am a RA here.  I have seen the football players.  From the rumors I heard...there are some really good athletes on the team, but that is the information you are going to hear from me, until the season starts.  They brought in a good number of players too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on August 16, 2006, 03:15:23 PM
man.....that Fayetteville heat.....I sure dont miss that!

GO MONARCHS
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 16, 2006, 05:09:44 PM
anyone know of any news from the SU camp? how many players have shown up for the team and any stand out players to look for?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 16, 2006, 10:09:01 PM
papi, mc55ol and abnrgr - monarchs just started camp on monday, so nothing earth shattering yet - not much fayetteville heat....yet - 97 degrees and 98% humidity is coming soon, though, i'm sure

good returning #'s and a really good class...lots of BIG boys (ol and dl were recruiting areas of emphasis) - i don't expect too many frosh to play...maybe a few in the dl rotation and MAYBE one or two in the ol rotation, and maybe a lb or 2

it should be an exciting year for the monarchs:

on the defensive side, the entire secondary returns intact and should be a strength, which is important the way teams are chucking the ball around, the inside lb's are among the best in the conference and the dl has some guys that can get after a qb...need to find a run stuffer or two

on the offensive side, most of the line is back, the wr corps is one of the best in the conference (if not the best) and hill and matthews can tote the rock...there is the qb question, though, and it's too early to tell anything in camp...i'll update you when/if i hear something about that position
Title: Re: UNC-Rocky Mount?
Post by: hasanova on August 17, 2006, 04:43:35 PM
The Associated Press ran a story today which was carried by the Greensboro News and Record about a serious proposal to turn NC Wesleyan into the 17th NC state supported school to be renamed UNC-Rocky Mount.  It's interesting to note that this northeastern part of the state is underdeveloped economically and there is a slight void in the UNC system in the area with nothing from Raleigh (NCSU) to Elizabeth City (ECSU) and Greenville (ECU).  NCSU and ECU already teach classes on the campus and 1300 students are in continuing education while 900 are traditional age students living on the 200 acre campus.   NCWC has admittedly had some financial troubles in their 50 year history, so maybe this is a way to get and stay in the black.  To cover both sides, there is some opposition (including from UNC System President Bowles and some Methodists), but it does seem to have some serious support, especially in the Rocky Mount business community and, one would guess, within the college itself.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 17, 2006, 06:16:42 PM
How do you think the USASAC will end up?  What are your predictions?
Title: Re: UNC-Rocky Mount?
Post by: narch on August 17, 2006, 09:28:49 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 17, 2006, 04:43:35 PM
The Associated Press ran a story today which was carried by the Greensboro News and Record about a serious proposal to turn NC Wesleyan into the 17th NC state supported school to be renamed UNC-Rocky Mount.  It's interesting to note that this northeastern part of the state is underdeveloped economically and there is a slight void in the UNC system in the area with nothing from Raleigh (NCSU) to Elizabeth City (ECSU) and Greenville (ECU).  NCSU and ECU already teach classes on the campus and 1300 students are in continuing education while 900 are traditional age students living on the 200 acre campus.   NCWC has admittedly had some financial troubles in their 50 year history, so maybe this is a way to get and stay in the black.  To cover both sides, there is some opposition (including from UNC System President Bowles and some Methodists), but it does seem to have some serious support, especially in the Rocky Mount business community and, one would guess, within the college itself.

it's ridiculous that the taxpayers in nc have to foot the $50,000 bill on this "study" - how can rocky mount and eastern nc be underserved when there are two large state supported universities within 45 minutes to an hour and 2 community colleges within 30 minutes?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 17, 2006, 10:36:19 PM
I think that the Rocky Mount business community is driving this one.  The NCWC Board has probably had every businessperson in town as a member and these people understand the situation of the school and its finances.  It appears that the school is valued at $80M and has an endowment of $8M.

Those business people can see feeding at the state trough with a public school infusing the local economy.

The teachers want it because the UNC pay grades are probably 20-40% or who knows how much more above what they are getting now.  Thye are for it.

Bowles doesn't want to drain his funds on fixed assets.  He sees that he has maximzied his investment in the Rocky Mount area with the Gateway Technology Center.

The United Methodist Church probably doesn't want to lose the school that they have put 50 years of work into.  NCWC has not even begun to harvest the large bequests and institutional gifts of their first generation of students/ philanthropists!

Some local politician wants to see a UNC-Rocky Mount with the "State Senator Jubilation T Cornpone Events Center" as its newest building! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 17, 2006, 11:58:35 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 17, 2006, 10:36:19 PM
I think that the Rocky Mount business community is driving this one.  The NCWC Board has probably had every businessperson in town as a member and these people understand the situation of the school and its finances.  It appears that the school is valued at $80M and has an endowment of $8M.

Those business people can see feeding at the state trough with a public school infusing the local economy.

The teachers want it because the UNC pay grades are probably 20-40% or who knows how much more above what they are getting now.  Thye are for it.

Bowles doesn't want to drain his funds on fixed assets.  He sees that he has maximzied his investment in the Rocky Mount area with the Gateway Technology Center.

The United Methodist Church probably doesn't want to lose the school that they have put 50 years of work into.  NCWC has not even begun to harvest the large bequests and institutional gifts of their first generation of students/ philanthropists!

Some local politician wants to see a UNC-Rocky Mount with the "State Senator Jubilation T Cornpone Events Center" as its newest building! :)
In a word: agree.  I also see I am not the only poster old enough to remember Li'l Abner.  Perhaps we need a UNC-Cornpatch or, as I'm sure some wags will be quick to add, we already have several!  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on August 18, 2006, 12:43:35 AM
Todd Parsons coming back for another season is huge at AU.  The MC v. AU game should be another good one.  I think MC will have another great season with so many solid returners, and Narch is right about the best "group" of wr's in the conference.  Don't worry about the qb situation because I am confident that any one of the returners is very capable of running the show.  Should be another great year for the USA South!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 18, 2006, 12:20:06 PM
If NCW becomes UNC- Rocky Mount would they become div 1 in sports or stay div 3? anyone know?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 18, 2006, 12:31:11 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on August 18, 2006, 12:20:06 PM
If NCW becomes UNC- Rocky Mount would they become div 1 in sports or stay div 3? anyone know?
Well, this is far from a "done deal," so I think it's too early to say.  I will say, however, that all other NC supported schools with sports programs are DII or higher.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 19, 2006, 08:43:38 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 17, 2006, 10:36:19 PM
NCWC has not even begun to harvest the large bequests and institutional gifts of their first generation of students/ philanthropists!

i say this all the time about mc, which was founded around the same time as ncwc and will celebrate 50 years since its charter this year (and, as an aside, has an endowment, operating budget and enrollment roughly twice the size of that which ncwc has), except i say it a little more bluntly...

not only are most of mc's graduates still alive (hence very few large bequests), most are still working

the earliest mc graduates are from 1964 (and i think there were just a handful of graduates in that first class)...the average adult will work somewhere around 40 to 45 years

ncwc is in a very similar position - it seems if the institution were able to hold on for the next few years, they would start seeing some fruits of the past 50 years of labor, and the state taxpayers wouldn't have to foot the bill on this study
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 21, 2006, 12:16:55 PM
mc quarterback situation (http://fayettevillenc.com/article?id=239833) - no inside scoop yet, but i'm betting on one of them winning the job :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HeardEnough on August 21, 2006, 01:10:04 PM
Anyone know if Shenandoah and Gettysburg are scrimmaging again this year? If so, where and when?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 21, 2006, 01:37:49 PM

NARCH - ELEVEN Qb candidates at MC ? ! ? ! ?  Do they all get reps every day?  I can't even imagine . . . . but I bet the receivers will be in shape!

Any news on Greensboro's QB situation?

And - does anyone know if the Pride will be scrimmaging anybody else before the season opener against Mars Hill?

Thanks!

                                   
ROLL PRIDE!!    

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 21, 2006, 09:56:32 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on August 21, 2006, 01:37:49 PM
NARCH - ELEVEN Qb candidates at MC ? ! ? ! ?  Do they all get reps every day?  I can't even imagine . . . . but I bet the receivers will be in shape!

keep in mind, the monarchs usually play a jv schedule, as well - eleven guys at a position of need is not that unusual in d3 football, either

one of them is gonna win that position, and he's going to be given the keys to a pretty nice car - those wideouts and rb's are as good as any in the league and the ol is very solid (and they'll be coached up as well as any ol in the league) - he'll just have to manage to keep that car between the white lines
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 21, 2006, 11:21:18 PM
I think we had 9 QB's in camp my frosh year at MC...Coach Sy likes to bring 'em in and sort them out.  Some may end up staying QB's and some will move on to other positions.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 22, 2006, 11:42:22 AM
Pride Report

Camp is going well haha.

D3Newbie- From what I hear all the QB's are doing well.

I heard a rumor the other day, that AU was doing 3 a day practices.  Getting ready for that opener I guess.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 22, 2006, 12:38:49 PM
Papi
They can throw you in. Narch would grease up your shoulder pad areas with graphite. THE ONLY THING THAT STUCK TO YOU WAS BLACK HELMETS

Anyway God, Country, Fast Boats WITH LOTS OF GUNS ON THE BOW......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 22, 2006, 02:01:06 PM
USAC folk --
I wanted to see how many people would be interested in a pick-em contest this season if I agreed to organize it.

I'd plan on using spreads for each game, although setting them would be new ground for me. Basically, I'd set them where picking the outcome of the game makes me want to throw my hands up in confusion.  ;)  Something like that would be lots more fun than straight picks, I'd think.

Let me know who would want to play. Fans outside the USA South are invited to play as well. I'd like to get at least 10 people willing to play every week through the season to make it all worthwhile.

Post here if you're interested, and I'll eventually set up a USAC thread on the Pick-em Board (it's a child board under the General Football category; you have to be logged in to see it). I'll also post the guidelines there.

There won't be any prizes, just bragging rights! The conference's first game is only nine days away!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 22, 2006, 03:05:48 PM
WC-

I would be up for a pick 'em contest
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 22, 2006, 03:31:43 PM

I would commit to every week . . . sounds like a great idea!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 22, 2006, 03:42:27 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on August 22, 2006, 02:01:06 PM
USAC folk --
I wanted to see how many people would be interested in a pick-em contest this season if I agreed to organize it.

I'd plan on using spreads for each game, although setting them would be new ground for me.

i'm down since i pick each conference game every week anyway, but i don't think you should post spreads for 3 reasons:

1 - too much work for you to do correctly
2 - who cares how much a team wins by as long as they win...i'll take 15 one point wins for the monarchs
3 - with as many games as are played, it's highly unlikely that 2 people would be tied at the end of the season, even with straight up wins and losses
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on August 22, 2006, 06:09:19 PM
You guys might want to check the ASC pickem board for ideas.  The astute and venerable Ralph Turner runs that one and has an excellent format with the point spread in one game each week being the tie breaker.  Hope this helps !!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 22, 2006, 06:25:25 PM
Thanks, roocru! ;) :)

I will get the ASC pick 'em rules up ASAP.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 22, 2006, 06:39:05 PM
Narch,
I definitely hear what you're saying, but I'm actually a big fan of spreads. I've been involved in pick-em contests that use spreads and others that don't, and using spreads seemed to generate a lot more enthusiasm ... not to mention a lot more good-natured "Curse that missed extra point"  :D

I already have the spreadsheet set up on my computer, but although it not going to be easy, I wholly offered to go this route, and I'm kinda excited to set up some of these threads. This is the first year that I've felt like I really know a lot about the conference as a whole, so setting a good spread is as much a challenge to me as it is to the person who picks correctly. (By the way, I'll also be making picks each week, of course.)

Granted, I could bomb on each game and not pick even close to the score. But I suppose that's not necessarily the point. The point will be to pick a spread that garners an even distribution of picks for each team. This is something that I hope will go above and beyond your support for your team....think of it as a challenge among the USAC posters.  ;)  By all means, root for your team to win, win, win. But if your team doesn't win, making the right choice in the pick-ems might be a little consolation. It's been that way for me in the past.

Since we have a few people interested, and I assume we'll get a few more, I'm going to set up a USAC thread on the pick-em board. Depending on how slow work is, I might even post the first week games tonight!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 22, 2006, 06:42:31 PM
Legacy
KID has had a pretty good "pick em'  the last couple of years. Mixed up across the conferences. Or was it just last year. it was a squared away board.

I would play but I do not know the teams as well so I would be easy pickings for Narch and Papi. "

Papi "5 dollar all night sailor" "Love you long time"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on August 23, 2006, 09:45:43 AM
Hey everyone, welcome back to another season of USASOUTH football. Its going to be exciting. While reading through the comments and things, of course i am partial to methodist, i mean i did play there four years, and loved every minute of it. The QB situation will be handled at methodist, there are some good kids in there, and they will know how to handle the pressure that is surrounding them. They have big shoes to fill, but coach eavenson will have those boys ready to play.
As for the O-line, well we have the best offensive line coach inthe country. He always prepares well for teams that we played and he always keeps those boys ahead of the game. As a former player, and now a coach, i thank him for the knowledge he gave us about the game and opened our eyes to new possibilities and now as i go on i see myself using those techniques now. He will have those boys ready to play football, heck they got a great o-line now as it is, most of them played last year and have the experience and know what it takes to win and be a champion.
As for the defense, well its methodist. They will always line up and get after somebody and come hit you in the mouth. They pride themselves on that. That was a tribute to our success last year was going against our defense and helping us get prepared for teams we faced.
Overall, the monarchs will have a great year and should be able to contend for the title again. I might eat those words later on in the year, but i have faith in those boys, they will do what it takes, too many leaders on that field to let it all go to waste!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 23, 2006, 12:37:14 PM
From the Greensboro College website:
QuotePride Football at GSO Media Day

August 22, 2006

The inaugural football kickoff luncheon was held Aug. 22 at the Greensboro Coliseum. Pride football was represented by Head Coach Neal Mitchell, senior running back Rod Herbin and senior linebacker Tylor Gladden.

More the 80 people attended the event, which featured the Gate City's three football playing colleges: Greensboro College, Guilford College and NCA&T.

Coach Mitchell answers questions about the Pride for this season. He said if the game was tomorrow he would alternate QB's and they are both transfers. He sounds pretty pleased with the preseason so far.  

To listen to the entire meeting:
http://www.gborocollege.edu/athletics/sports/PrideNet/2006-07/gsofb.wav (http://www.gborocollege.edu/athletics/sports/PrideNet/2006-07/gsofb.wav)





ROLL PRIDE! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 23, 2006, 12:51:37 PM
i could be wrong on this, but I kinda remember something about the NCAA was not too keen on pick-em's for the D3 and Pat was worried it might be a problem if spreads were used. KIDS contest has no spreads and i think thats the reason no one has had no real issues. Before you do anything setting it up you should check with Pat and see what he would allow on D3football.com
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 23, 2006, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on August 23, 2006, 12:51:37 PM
i could be wrong on this, but I kinda remember something about the NCAA was not too keen on pick-em's for the D3 and Pat was worried it might be a problem if spreads were used. KIDS contest has no spreads and i think thats the reason no one has had no real issues. Before you do anything setting it up you should check with Pat and see what he would allow on D3football.com

I posted a short response to this type of question on the USAC pick-'ems board, but I'll address it here as well. For years, the pick-em boards for the OAC and NCAC (both of which I participate on) have been using spreads. I've never heard anything negative about the use of spreads, and if I am wrong, please set me straight Pat.

I know that on the NCAC board specifically, the organizer moved from straight pick-ems to using spreads because, initially, everyone was picking correctly 70 to 75 percent of the time. The spreads added more of a challenge, and people there and on the OAC boards really love it.

The biggest factor here is that we're playing for fun ... and as I said before, bragging rights.  ;)  There's not a cent that's changing hands. No betting means that the NCAA doesn't have a leg to stand on, if in fact that they've ever really had a problem with what we do. Our cashless pick-ems on Post Patterns don't compare with the millions that are actually spent gambling on Div-I ball.

So, Jessie, does that mean I can count you in? We could use more bodies!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on August 23, 2006, 07:20:12 PM
For those of you who know Papi..........

I found an all area football list from 97 and Papi was an all area db!!!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on August 24, 2006, 12:59:25 PM
Methodist scrimmages Shaw university form raleigh, that should be a good game for them to see where they are as far as the opening season kickoff game. I do not understand why averrett decided to play mount union though for their first game, that wont be pretty. Almost like what our team did last friday night. We scheduled the number 4 team in the state in 4-a football, reynolds and lost 60-0. The team was just bigger, faster, stronger and had more athletes than we did. I see the same thing happening with averrett playing mount union. No disrespect to you cougars or nothin, but heck of a way to start off the year.
       Defense for the monarchs looks real good this year im hearing. You got Gauntlett, shuford, rayford, nelson, farrell, lawrence (who will be defensive player of the year this year hopefully), and a all-conference d-line returning for the monarchs. It looks promising for them. I think Gauntlett and shuford will be great at the outside linebacker spot. Gauntlett is a hitter and likes to play downhill alot, and shuford is a fast, agile type guy ready to hit someon. I like Nelson, farrell, and lawerence and burlinggame at the backers. Hayden, northern, merrit, and wilkie on the d-line and the corners are always shut down guys. The problem is i dont know who i would put at safety if i move gauntlett to outside backer. The monarchs will figure it out.
Coach Sypult will have this defense ready to go out and play some ball. The monarchs look complete this year and got a lot of returners to lead them out in battle this year, Good luck this year boys, beat the quakers!!!




go monarchs!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 24, 2006, 01:47:26 PM
'51 - i'm hearing some of the same things about the defensive side, as well - like you, i really like bringing shuford and gauntlett closer to the line, especially with the way everyone seems to be spreading things out offensively - the only teams who are going to pack things in and run at you will be ferrum and su - those other 8 games, you better have physical db's playing those olb spots, and that's exactly what shuford and gauntlett are - i'm hoping to watch a little of the shaw/mc scrimmage today - shaw is a solid d2 program in the ciaa, so the size/athleticism will be a good test for the monarchs - i disagree on scheduling, though - au will have a very good measuring stick for where they are and where they need to go to be competitive on a national level after week 1 - the coaching staff will also be able to say "these guys are pretty good, but they're no mount union, so i think we can play with them" about EVERY other opponent on their schedule - this would be especially effective if averett is able to play things close for a half....maybe they're down 24 - 10 at halftime, and feel like they're in the game and competing - with the aq, i am a big supporter of scheduling difficult games in ooc competition and would love to see the monarchs add someone like bridgewater or hsc or wesley when chowan comes off the schedule
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 24, 2006, 01:53:24 PM
pat, keith, ryan & co. - great job on the preview...it's the best $8.95 i've ever spent (although if i could pay $8.95 to see papi play db, that might top the preview issue :)) - it's amazing how in-depth you guys get with 234 teams to cover - kudos

if you haven't purchased your preview yet, do it...it's worth every penny

p.s. - i'm not just saying this because you picked the monarchs to beat ehc this year (unlike last)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 24, 2006, 03:03:34 PM
Quote from: narch on August 24, 2006, 01:47:26 PM
i disagree on scheduling, though - au will have a very good measuring stick for where they are and where they need to go to be competitive on a national level after week 1 - the coaching staff will also be able to say "these guys are pretty good, but they're no mount union, so i think we can play with them" about EVERY other opponent on their schedule

I completely agree with you here. It's no doubt a ballsy move, but as long as Averett comes out of the game injury-free, the team will be all that much better off and better prepared when it faces the tough games in conference. Mount's defense won't be quite as dominant as last year, and with Averett getting three very important skill players back on offense, I think this has the makings of a fairly high-scoring game. I'm certain Mount will win, but Averett won't go down without a fight.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 24, 2006, 10:40:46 PM
the monarchs did not look particularly good on either side of the ball against shaw today, but i will say this - shaw is good...better than any team the monarchs will play this season - they have a qb who is legit, one of the best in the ciaa, the lines were HUGE...bigger than any i've seen in d3 - this is a team that won the ciaa 2 years ago and was 4-2 in that conference last year - they've also been practicing since august 4, and looked like a team that had a lot of camp under their belt as opposed to the monarchs who have only had a handful of live practices...no excuses, though...there's a long way to go, and i'm glad the quackers are still a few weeks away
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on August 25, 2006, 10:26:15 AM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on August 23, 2006, 12:51:37 PM
i could be wrong on this, but I kinda remember something about the NCAA was not too keen on pick-em's for the D3 and Pat was worried it might be a problem if spreads were used. KIDS contest has no spreads and i think thats the reason no one has had no real issues. Before you do anything setting it up you should check with Pat and see what he would allow on D3football.com

Speaking of my pick 'em ... when you are getting in?! :)

FYI, I'll be at the game August 31.  Getting there around 6:30.
Title: Kickoff predictions
Post by: Eh-You on August 26, 2006, 08:31:37 AM
I like the way the d3 staff is thinking ... whether they hold true or not, I'm glad the Cougars are getting some preseason press. But you sure don't win rings in media publications.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wilburt on August 26, 2006, 10:20:51 AM
Nice article on Huntingdon football with a reference to USA South member Maryville.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608260346
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 26, 2006, 11:28:28 PM
Quote from: mc55ol on August 23, 2006, 07:20:12 PM
For those of you who know Papi..........

I found an all area football list from 97 and Papi was an all area db!!!!



I can't believe you found that stuff...man you must have spent a year researching that info...maybe now narch will believe that at one point in my life I could actually motor a lil' bit  ;D. 

ABN....did you see the score of the Mullet Bucket???  Chalk up another BIG win for 'dem downeaster's son!  If you are gonna make it to the GC/MC game let me know!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on August 26, 2006, 11:36:52 PM
I just review the US News and World Report ranking of colleges. Greensboro and CNU are mentioned in the rankings but no other USA South schools.

I was surprised at some of the schools listed instead USAS ones. Anyone know what's up here? Where's Shenandoah, Averett, Methodist, etc.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on August 26, 2006, 11:43:19 PM
Hey guys its me again this year. I was at the kickoff lunchon that we had in Greensboro and I tell you Coach Mitchell is really happy about his pre season things. I think that the pride are going to turn alot of heads this year on the field and prove the USA South conference poll wrong. We start our play on Sat. with our first ever D2 team and we have the advantage of playing it at home. I will be seeing alot of the games this year and I am really looking foward to the Pride turning some heads this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 26, 2006, 11:47:13 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on August 26, 2006, 11:36:52 PM
I just review the US News and World Report ranking of colleges. Greensboro and CNU are mentioned in the rankings but no other USA South schools.

I was surprised at some of the schools listed instead USAS ones. Anyone know what's up here? Where's Shenandoah, Averett, Methodist, etc.


I haven't really scoured the rankings, except to get an idea of how many Va. schools made the list, but I did see that another USAC school, Ferrum, got mentioned. It was among the top 50 of southern comprehensive colleges.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on August 26, 2006, 11:50:39 PM
Ok we can put them on that list but were is the main colleges in the conf. such as CNU and Averett
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 27, 2006, 12:33:01 AM

Hey, Gullett!

Any chance of getting more detail on what Coach Mitchell said at the luncheon for those of us that could not attend?  I didn't see anything about it in the News-Record online.

Any info helps me survive until Sept. 2  .  .  .  .  .




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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 27, 2006, 12:37:37 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on August 26, 2006, 11:50:39 PM
Ok we can put them on that list but were is the main colleges in the conf. such as CNU and Averett

And I just did a double-take of the rankings and also saw that Maryville got really good mention, ranking third on the southern comprehensive list. I was impressed.

GCG, I agree with you, though, about something you said earlier. I was surprised at some of the schools that did make the list instead of the USA South ones. OK, retention rate and alumni giving and such aren't even remotely the end-all of the college experience, but some of the schools that made the rankings just don't seem to fit.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 27, 2006, 12:43:03 PM
Aye Aye Papi.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 27, 2006, 06:11:49 PM
Hey narch,

I have a question to ask you.

imosher@gborocollege.edu
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: section13raiderfan on August 27, 2006, 06:36:36 PM
Hi guys. As my name implies im a Mount Union fan and I was wondering if the Averett/Mount Union game will be televised locally in your area? The Raiders are tape delayed locally a couple of games a year. Would anyone be willing to tape the game for me? Also someone remarked that Mount Unions defense is not expected to be as dominant as last years.  I thought so too....until this last full contact scrimmage on Saturday.  Look for a quick and hungry bunch of defenders. I hope you guys enjoy the game...I wish i was gonna be there!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on August 27, 2006, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on August 27, 2006, 12:33:01 AM

Hey, Gullett!

Any chance of getting more detail on what Coach Mitchell said at the luncheon for those of us that could not attend?  I didn't see anything about it in the News-Record online.

Any info helps me survive until Sept. 2  .  .  .  .  .




ROLL PRIDE ! !

There is some stuff that was released today in you email account at the college.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 28, 2006, 12:20:20 AM

GCG - What email account? I'll private message you with my email address if that would help. Would love to see any stuff being sent out!! But unfortunately, I no longer have a college email account anywhere - actually, I'm so old that I never did - nobody had email way back then (or even computers).  :(   But we did have phones  :) - but they were all attached to something!

I saw the article online in the News-Record today.  There were some inaccuracies, but that happens. Just gotta wait seven six five more days until Mars Hill . . . . .


http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060827/NEWSREC0105/608270324/1022/GTCOM (http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060827/NEWSREC0105/608270324/1022/GTCOM)




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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: d3fbfan on August 28, 2006, 10:00:02 AM
Safe travels to those from CNU visiting South Jersey for the game at Rowan this week. Any thoughts on the game this week or predictions for the score?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on August 28, 2006, 10:27:08 AM
The game I doubt will not be televised on TV but you can listen to it via Averett's website on the web. But I cant imagine Mount not sending a radio crew to the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 28, 2006, 03:01:57 PM
Quote from: section13raiderfan on August 27, 2006, 06:36:36 PM
Hi guys. As my name implies im a Mount Union fan and I was wondering if the Averett/Mount Union game will be televised locally in your area? The Raiders are tape delayed locally a couple of games a year. Would anyone be willing to tape the game for me? Also someone remarked that Mount Unions defense is not expected to be as dominant as last years.  I thought so too....until this last full contact scrimmage on Saturday.  Look for a quick and hungry bunch of defenders. I hope you guys enjoy the game...I wish i was gonna be there!

Do they have TV stations near Averett? You can tell big time d3 football programs when their fans want to know about the game being televised. If  you find a TV station near AU you might catch a mention of the score during the 11 o'clock news - right after the high school football scores and 15 minutes of weather.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 28, 2006, 03:04:56 PM
Quote from: d3fbfan on August 28, 2006, 10:00:02 AM
Safe travels to those from CNU visiting South Jersey for the game at Rowan this week. Any thoughts on the game this week or predictions for the score?

I was planning on heading up there. Waiting to see if Ernesto brings rain to the East Coast this weekend. If it rains and the field isn't in good shape, CNU keeps it close to the end. If it's a nice day, Air Orihel (did I spell it correctly?) lights up CNU. Either way CNU will take an early lead. We'll see what happens after that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 28, 2006, 03:16:50 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 28, 2006, 03:01:57 PM
Quote from: section13raiderfan on August 27, 2006, 06:36:36 PM
Hi guys. As my name implies im a Mount Union fan and I was wondering if the Averett/Mount Union game will be televised locally in your area? The Raiders are tape delayed locally a couple of games a year. Would anyone be willing to tape the game for me? Also someone remarked that Mount Unions defense is not expected to be as dominant as last years.  I thought so too....until this last full contact scrimmage on Saturday.  Look for a quick and hungry bunch of defenders. I hope you guys enjoy the game...I wish i was gonna be there!

Do they have TV stations near Averett? You can tell big time d3 football programs when their fans want to know about the game being televised. If  you find a TV station near AU you might catch a mention of the score during the 11 o'clock news - right after the high school football scores and 15 minutes of weather.
Believe it or not, a lot of the news/weather/sports in that part of Virginia actually comes out of North Carolina.  The closest station is WFMY-Channel 2 in Greensboro, but you'll probably only get a score.  (Trust me, all the North Carolina stations don't do much for DIII, but you can get your fill of ACC!)  Here's Averett's webcast link, which is probably your best (and maybe only) choice!:

http://web.averett.edu/statistics/cougarlive.htm

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: section13raiderfan on August 28, 2006, 03:43:18 PM
Thanks for the links Averett fans. I know it was a long shot of getting a tv tape but at least I tried. I guess it just goes to show how football crazy we are up here in Stark County, Ohio. Heck, even the highschools are replayed on tv here. They replay a game of the week for the best local matchup. Football is big business up here. A couple of the highschools have around 20,000 seats and if the game is a meaningful one it will be close to sold out, if not totally sold out. You guys keep growing your program and tv will notice eventually. Good Luck!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: RU Fan on August 28, 2006, 03:59:59 PM
CNU85

Come on up!  Weather is supposed to be a high of 80 with mostly sunshine.  Possible shower in the evening.  However, with Ernesto lurking in the weeds, that could change ... but at this point, things look good.

Field condition really shouldn't have any effect.  Rain may make field a little slick but RU installed New-style Turf about 3 years ago and the field drains very well.

Air Orihel (yes, you spelled it correctly) looked sharp in both scrimmages and the running game looked good as well.  CNU always plays RU tough and should be a good test for the Profs.  We're looking forward to your visit.

Drive safely!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on August 28, 2006, 06:10:02 PM
Section13raiderfan,

I grew up watching All-American Conference High School football and have been to games at Massillon and at Fawcett Stadium to see Canton McKinley play. So I know how Stark County fans love their football.

Ohio has a big influence on the Averett football staff.  Averett is just a pup in Division III but they have come a long way. I have to watch over the webcasts.

They tell me Mt. Union might even see the wishbone from Averett this week. I expect the kitchen sink too.

Mt. Union used to have a bunch of old timers helping coach there, I wondered if that was still true?  Who does Mt. Union play next -- maybe they will look ahead!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 28, 2006, 06:31:00 PM
Mars Hill College website 'notes' on the game this weekend against Greensboro College.  We may find out in this game if GC is for real this year. MHC is a DII school that has their QB and a bunch of others back from last year and look to be pretty good.

http://sports.mhc.edu/football/Game%20Notes/Greensboro%20Game%20Notes.pdf (http://sports.mhc.edu/football/Game%20Notes/Greensboro%20Game%20Notes.pdf)

Greensboro & Mars Hill depth charts are on page 5



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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 28, 2006, 06:35:18 PM
Here are the game notes for the SU/Catholic game Thursday night. http://www.su.edu/athletics/fb/fbgamenotes06.pdf
Lets hope the SU athletic staff checked all the players grades and what not so they wont have to forefeit the game again if the Hornets win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on August 29, 2006, 09:02:27 AM
Quote from: Leatherhelmet on August 28, 2006, 06:10:02 PM
Mt. Union used to have a bunch of old timers helping coach there, I wondered if that was still true?  Who does Mt. Union play next -- maybe they will look ahead!!

Mt. Union has a nice mix of older and younger coaches now.  Coach Kehres actually handed off the offensive play calling to some younger coaches (Campbell and Bruney) last year for the first time in his career.

http://www.mtunionfootball.com/2006season/06coachingstaff.htm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on August 29, 2006, 09:04:15 AM
Quote from: Leatherhelmet on August 28, 2006, 06:10:02 PM
Who does Mt. Union play next -- maybe they will look ahead!!

Mt. Union has an off week 9/9/06 and then Otterbein on 9/16/06 so not much chance of them looking ahead.  ;)

Besides, one of their trademarks over the years is to take it one week at a time (sorry for the cliche).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rscl70 on August 29, 2006, 09:26:48 AM
Leatherhelmet,

Here's a link that may be of interest to you and others.

http://www.muc.edu/athletics/men_s_teams/football/2006_media_guide
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: RU Fan on August 29, 2006, 12:39:42 PM
CNU85

Weather update ..... a lot different than what I posted for you yesterday.

Now it looks like the weather in the 'boro will be declining for Saturday because of Ernesto.

Last I heard was ... windy (15 mph) with rain and a high of 79.

Rain, rain, go away >:(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 29, 2006, 03:45:11 PM
RU Fan - It's looking less and less like a fun weekend....a holiday weekend drive in the rain. Maybe I'll listen on the internet.

Raiderfan...High school football around here gets more news time than CNU. Since you are from Ohio you maynot have heard some college players (and some pros) talking about 757 (our area code). Many players from CNU's back yard go on to play D1 ball, pros and even a few in the Hall of Fame.

I won't bore you with details....but here is a brief sample (very brief)....I went to High School with 2 guys that became Buckeyes!! Jimmy and Shawn Gayle. My wife went to High School with Al Toon. My brother went to High School (many years before me) with Hall of Famer Dwight Stephenson. My son goes to the High School that had Toon and current DB David Macklin. My daughter goes to a different High School where a Hall of Famer attended (Henry Jordan - long time ago) but is better known for graduates Michael and Marcus Vick. And the Ferguson Center on CNU's campus is the site of another High School that was torn down - a place where Aaron Brooks went to school.

I could list tons more local players like Lawrence Taylor, and cousins Terry Kirby and Chris Slade....but you get the picture..a hot bed of high school talent....then they all leave to go play somewhere else. It hasn't been until the past 7 years or so that Va Tech and Virginia have been able to keep some of these kids in state.

That's one of the many reasons CNU has been succesful. there are some very talented d3 caliber players right here in the local area.

Heck - a few months ago I was in the teacher parking lot of my son's school and there was a car there with Va vanity plates that read Mt Union. It had a Purple Raider sticker in the window.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on August 29, 2006, 03:59:59 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 29, 2006, 03:45:11 PM
RU Fan - It's looking less and less like a fun weekend....a holiday weekend drive in the rain. Maybe I'll listen on the internet.

Raiderfan...High school football around here gets more news time than CNU. Since you are from Ohio you maynot have heard some college players (and some pros) talking about 757 (our area code). Many players from CNU's back yard go on to play D1 ball, pros and even a few in the Hall of Fame.

I won't bore you with details....but here is a brief sample (very brief)....I went to High School with 2 guys that became Buckeyes!! Jimmy and Shawn Gayle. My wife went to High School with Al Toon. My brother went to High School (many years before me) with Hall of Famer Dwight Stephenson. My son goes to the High School that had Toon and current DB David Macklin. My daughter goes to a different High School where a Hall of Famer attended (Henry Jordan - long time ago) but is better known for graduates Michael and Marcus Vick. And the Ferguson Center on CNU's campus is the site of another High School that was torn down - a place where Aaron Brooks went to school.

I could list tons more local players like Lawrence Taylor, and cousins Terry Kirby and Chris Slade....but you get the picture..a hot bed of high school talent....then they all leave to go play somewhere else. It hasn't been until the past 7 years or so that Va Tech and Virginia have been able to keep some of these kids in state.

That's one of the many reasons CNU has been succesful. there are some very talented d3 caliber players right here in the local area.

Heck - a few months ago I was in the teacher parking lot of my son's school and there was a car there with Va vanity plates that read Mt Union. It had a Purple Raider sticker in the window.

Oh yeah?  Cindy Crawford graduated from my HS.  Top That!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 29, 2006, 04:39:37 PM
point for Kiras dad


(from an alum of the HS for Allen Iverson)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 29, 2006, 06:25:55 PM

NOBODY graduated from my HS - at least that what they said after all the records burned up when the school burned down(true!)  :(

But Ronald Reagan graduated from my dad's HS (also true!)  :P


But seriously - Please tell me Greensboro is going to be dry this weekend  ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 29, 2006, 06:29:03 PM
Your high school wears combat boots!!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: section13raiderfan on August 29, 2006, 07:29:38 PM
CNU85,
Now thats what I like, a place where the football greats are revered and long remembered. Just goes to show...you can bloom wherever yer planted. Its ironic that with all the records and record setters that passed through Mount Union that none that I can remember ever played pro ball in the NFL. Ballard was on the Buffalo Bills but never saw action. A couple went to the Canadian league and some had NFL tryouts but never stuck. However there are some playing arena ball doing very well. There have been some opponents that went pro and were outstanding when they played  the Raiders, but were losers on the field when they went head to head with Mount Union. I guess that is just a testament to teamwork prevailing over individual talent.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 29, 2006, 08:49:38 PM
Chris Kern played for the Detroit Lions -- actual playing time, not just wearing a uniform.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 30, 2006, 09:28:55 AM
Kiras Dad wins!!!

NNSID....fellow Bruin. I knew I liked you for some reason!! I left Iverson out of the mix, since he plays hoops. His first football game as  a Bruin - A little skinny 9th grader...first game in HS, varsity team......5 touchdowns! 1 passing, 2 running, 1 punt return and 1 Int return (somethinglike that...I could have the rushing and passing mixed up and the punt return could have been a kickoff). I just remember reading the paper and thinking....NFL.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on August 30, 2006, 11:51:59 AM
Hey I actually went to high school and graduated the same year with a pro football player who was drafted in the fourth round by the Jags, then signed with the Giants and is now, at least the last I heard, was signed by the Pats. Which is also the same  high school that LT, Ron Springs and Mel Grey all went to. I cant remember if anyone else went there or not.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on August 30, 2006, 12:36:32 PM
You hit the big 3 there goose
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 30, 2006, 05:05:01 PM
Quote from: nnasid on August 30, 2006, 12:36:32 PM
You hit the big 3 there goose
Tim Goad (Patrick Co., VA, HS, UNC-CH, NE Patriots, Cleveland Browns/Baltimore Ravens) went to the same public schools as me.  He's younger than me, so we weren't in school at the same time.  It was funny, when he was in the NFL he would visit his parents in Claudville, VA and his sports car was worth about twice as much as their house!

Brad Clontz (VPI, Atlanta Braves, LA Dodgers, NY Mets and Pittsburgh Pirates) also went to Patrick Co. HS.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 30, 2006, 06:06:53 PM
Okay Hasa
How bout this one. Blast from the past. Burchett, Havelock High. he used to beat me up. All American at GC-Q. Shake those webs.........

One of my kids is still with the Giants. Guy Whimper 6'6" 302. DE. When I coached him at Havelock he was 220. Yikes

Okay so he would not remember me
Title: Re: Guilford adds Ian Mosher and others to staff
Post by: hasanova on August 31, 2006, 09:25:57 AM
http://www.guilford.edu/athletics/football/Assistants.html

Here are some coaching changes at Guilford.  Note the addition of former Greensboro Pride player (and d3football poster) Ian Mosher.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 31, 2006, 09:37:04 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on August 30, 2006, 06:06:53 PM
Okay Hasa
How bout this one. Blast from the past. Burchett, Havelock High. he used to beat me up. All American at GC-Q. Shake those webs.........

One of my kids is still with the Giants. Guy Whimper 6'6" 302. DE. When I coached him at Havelock he was 220. Yikes

Okay so he would not remember me
I remember those guys.  All are good players.  Thanks for the reminder.  Hey, I saw QB Anthony Wright get in the game for the Cincinnati Bengals the other night.  He's now in his 9th NFL season and has also played for the Steelers, the Cowboys and the Ravens.  Do you remember him from West Craven HS (New Bern) and the University of South Carolina?  His mother, Donna, used to work for me when I was with Moen in New Bern.  I saw him play for USC versus Kentucky in 1997 when Tim Couch was the Wildcat QB.   Anthony passed for three and ran for two in a 42-38 Gamecock victory.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on August 31, 2006, 11:16:23 AM
Mosh -

Saw in your bio that you were a coach at Northern Nash HS before your move to Guilford.

Bridgewater recruited Brad Jones, a running back, from there.  He looks pretty good ... in the next couple years, he could follow in the steps of Davon Cruz, Marcus Washington and Winston Young.

Your thoughts on him?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 31, 2006, 02:17:10 PM
i played against eric swann (ariz cardinals) in one game in hs...he played a few games on jv as a frosh...i played a tackle position as a 160 lb'er (couldn't run, catch or throw...so i became on ol) - not only was he about 60 lb's heavier, he was about 10 steps quicker - needless to say, his performance on the jv squad against me was clearly one of the stepping stones to his varsity and eventually professional career
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: beenhit2hard on August 31, 2006, 07:46:02 PM
Does Averett have tarps to cover the field with all the rain coming>
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: K-Mack on August 31, 2006, 08:34:56 PM
For what it's worth,
We were supposed to do the CUA-Shenandoah game live, but couldn't. I went anyway, and I'm blogging live from Winchester on The Daily Dose.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 31, 2006, 08:38:01 PM
I played against Willie Parker (steelers) ... I don't even think he was their starting tailback (his sr year) because of Derek Fisher (who went to ECU and at one time led the nation in rushing)...or maybe Fisher was the FB and Parker was the TB...either way that backfield was way more than we could handle.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on September 01, 2006, 12:06:54 AM
Just got back from the SU-CUA game.  Only good thing I can say about the game is that Shenandoah's hospitality was once again top notch.  Excellent new additions to the stadium as well (locker rooms, restrooms, etc.).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 01, 2006, 12:55:45 AM
How could I forget Clay Jordon unleasing him. It was like a wind of doom.  :-\

The Cocks staff were a bunch of guys I knew when I saw them but I cannot for the hell of me remember one name. 2-3 of them ended up with the lunatic at LSU. 100k minimum for an assistant down there. Coach Scott? Can't remember.

anyway I think West Craven has put more than a couple out there in the NFL. Jordan who I do not like for various unmentioned reasons really makes the attempt to take care of his boys. I' ll give him that. They love him down there. Hell he got Guy Whimper (Giants) and Chris Moore (Saints) into ECU and THEY PLAYED FOR HAVELOCK!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 01, 2006, 08:24:37 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 01, 2006, 12:55:45 AM
How could I forget Clay Jordon unleasing him. It was like a wind of doom.  :-\

The Cocks staff were a bunch of guys I knew when I saw them but I cannot for the hell of me remember one name. 2-3 of them ended up with the lunatic at LSU. 100k minimum for an assistant down there. Coach Scott? Can't remember.

anyway I think West Craven has put more than a couple out there in the NFL. Jordan who I do not like for various unmentioned reasons really makes the attempt to take care of his boys. I' ll give him that. They love him down there. Hell he got Guy Whimper (Giants) and Chris Moore (Saints) into ECU and THEY PLAYED FOR HAVELOCK!!
Anthony Wright was already at S. Carolina when I moved to New Bern, so I never saw him play in HS.  You're   right, though, W. Craven has had some good players.  In fact, all three Craven County schools have had their share.  Havelock and New Bern HS are good too.  I hope Anthony stays healthy and has a good season behind Palmer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 01, 2006, 11:36:28 AM
    Well, I hate to say it but if last nights game has any indication on how the season is going to go for the Hornets I would be surprised if they win 1 game.
   
    I was at the game last night and the offense just plain stunked up the house last night. The Hornets had ONLY 84 yards for the entire game! AWFUL! 1.8 avg. yards an attempt. This is one of the problems I have with the love that Barnes has with the Ace-Wing. Everyone knows the Hornets are going to run then run, then run, then run again and then maybe just maybe he will pass the ball. But the pass is a long shot because he will most likely run again. I just wish they would mix it up some to get the opponents defense off the line some. Everyone just clogs up the middle and the Hornets running backs have no chance.
   
    I have to give a hand to the D-team. They played with heart and with being on the field for over 35 min's Im sure they were exhausted. I have to tip my hat to the CUA players however. They played a great game.
   
   Man I hope what I saw last night was not the norm for this 2006 team for if it was its going to be a looooooong season. :-[   Iam not looking forward to next week against Bridgewater. Im almost afraid to see what the final score will be on that one.

Here is the box score if anyone would like to see it. http://www.su.edu/athletics/fb/2006/083106.htm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 01, 2006, 11:38:08 AM
GO HORNETS! I still love you guys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 01, 2006, 11:48:26 AM
Here is the Winchester Star newspaper's article about the game as well. Pretty interesting. Also a quote from it. "I think that (pass) caught them off guard," Sabrick said. "You've got to have a balanced game to win.  This is a CUA players quote. Something Barnes should learn.

http://www.winchesterstar.com/TheWinchesterStar/060901/Sports_su.asp
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on September 01, 2006, 11:59:19 AM
Uncle Jessie -

A couple thoughts on the game...

-Both teams were very small - at all positions.  I know that doesn't really matter in some cases (positions), but I felt like they were small muscle wise too.  Catholic's Nick Olivero was the most impressive to me, and he was only 5-8, 185ish.

-That was a quick game (time wise - first half lasted only 49 minutes) ... but slow as far as the play on the field.  No one really had blazing speed.  The weather conditions were perfect too, so that can't be the excuse.

-On both team's depth charts, I noticed about 80% of the second-string were freshmen ... not good for this season.

-Four of Catholic's five starting OLs are sophomores ... the lone senior was only 5-11, 220 lbs ... yikes.  Shenandoah's defensive line were the biggest players on the field, yet still couldn't get a lot of pressue on Ricca and Jacobs.

-Where was the emotion for either team??  Until Catholic got a 10-0 lead, neither team was being vocal.  Even the fans were quiet.

-I arrived about an hour before the game ... and I saw only one group tailgating.  On a beautiful Thursday evening (home opener!), only one?!

-I liked the freshman QB more than the senior one that started.  I liked the couple throws he made, put it out there where the receiver could have gotten it.  It will interesting to see how long Barnes sticks with Blake over Glick.  I'd say give Glick the start against Bridgewater.

I agree with you ... not sure who else on Shenandoah's schedule they can beat.  Greensboro maybe?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 01, 2006, 12:08:07 PM
One would think SU would beat GC. but even in the Hornets 2 conference champion teams they have come up short against the Pride. They just seem to have the Hornets number each year for some reason. I agree with you on the QB thing. Im sure Barnes will start the Sr. next week. But if things are not going well he is going to have to pull him. Who knows, maybe they will have a platoon style at QB next week. I dont like that but the Hornets did that in 2000 and starting in 2001.For the fans not making much noise its hard for the crowd to cheer for anything when its run after run after run and your only getting over a yard a carry.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on September 01, 2006, 12:11:56 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 01, 2006, 12:08:07 PM
[...] For the fans not making much noise its hard for the crowd to cheer for anything when its run after run after run and your only getting over a yard a carry.

Oh, I know.  Trust me, when Bridgewater got shalacked by Mount Union in 2003, I didn't (couldn't) say a word.  So I understand.

As far as SU's running ... at first I was questioning why you all would run up the middle on two 3rd-and-longs ... but then I saw the starting QB throw.  Then I got it.  Pick your poison.  If Diggs and Lacey had better blocking (or a passing game that would lessen the players in the box), then your running game would be pretty good.  I like those two kids ... it's ashame they don't have any time or holes to work with.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on September 01, 2006, 03:07:00 PM
Hey yall here is something that is very neat that one of our coaches put together it is a highlight film and here is the link:


http://www.gborocollege.edu/athletics/sports/FOOTBALL/2006/PRIDE2.mpg
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ace45 on September 01, 2006, 04:50:19 PM
Hey Im a former Pacific Lutheran (Northwest Conference) player working in North Carolina and I am missing some small college football. I am planning on going to the Mt. Union Avetrett game and was wondering what there is to do around Southern Virginia, Do you guys tailgate?, bars?? Anyways I figure it would be a great game to get the football year started with, plus I can do a little scouting for the Lutes. Ok they're having an off couple of years but at least it could be a fun game to watch. Any suggestions for going to the game??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 01, 2006, 04:58:27 PM
The SU-CUA game, they did play the full 60 mins right.  Where was the offense (I love an offensive game) only 352 total yards in that game.  I was hoping for SU to win, and a little more out of both teams.  They haven't changed the offense have they.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 01, 2006, 05:14:29 PM
Quote from: ace45 on September 01, 2006, 04:50:19 PM
Hey Im a former Pacific Lutheran (Northwest Conference) player working in North Carolina and I am missing some small college football. I am planning on going to the Mt. Union Avetrett game and was wondering what there is to do around Southern Virginia, Do you guys tailgate?, bars?? Anyways I figure it would be a great game to get the football year started with, plus I can do a little scouting for the Lutes. Ok they're having an off couple of years but at least it could be a fun game to watch. Any suggestions for going to the game??
Well, I grew up about 60 miles west of Danville in Patrick County, VA and, to be perfectly honest, south central Virginia is rarely mentioned in Fodor's "Must See" lists.  There is the Blue Ridge Parkway, but it's 60 miles west of Danville and Fairystone State Park is 40 miles northwest.  Sometimes they have music/food events around the Dan River in Danville, especially on a holiday weekend, but I can't think of any really noteworthy attractions or night life.  I think there is a tobacco museum of some sort, but maybe someone who's actually from Danville can give you some other tips.  It's a blue collar town, so don't expect too many frills.  Personally, if I were you, I'd head 45 miles south to Greensboro, NC and check out the new clubs, bars, microbreweries and restaurants that are flourishing in the Elm Street area of downtown.  With all five colleges/universities in the city cranked up about 10 days ago, there will be a lot of foot traffic and live music.   I'm not deliberately trying to sell Danville short, but I've been there many times and I just can't think of too many attractions.  Have a good time at the game and throughout the weekend.  Peace   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 01, 2006, 07:34:30 PM
Quote from: ace45 on September 01, 2006, 04:50:19 PM
Hey Im a former Pacific Lutheran (Northwest Conference) player working in North Carolina and I am missing some small college football. I am planning on going to the Mt. Union Avetrett game and was wondering what there is to do around Southern Virginia, Do you guys tailgate?, bars?? Anyways I figure it would be a great game to get the football year started with, plus I can do a little scouting for the Lutes. Ok they're having an off couple of years but at least it could be a fun game to watch. Any suggestions for going to the game??
There should be a really good crowd at Averett and, yes, we do tailgate.  That would a great option for tomorrow!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on September 01, 2006, 07:38:39 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 01, 2006, 07:34:30 PM
Quote from: ace45 on September 01, 2006, 04:50:19 PM
Hey Im a former Pacific Lutheran (Northwest Conference) player working in North Carolina and I am missing some small college football. I am planning on going to the Mt. Union Avetrett game and was wondering what there is to do around Southern Virginia, Do you guys tailgate?, bars?? Anyways I figure it would be a great game to get the football year started with, plus I can do a little scouting for the Lutes. Ok they're having an off couple of years but at least it could be a fun game to watch. Any suggestions for going to the game??
There should be a really good crowd at Averett and, yes, we do tailgate.  That would a great option for tomorrow!

I don't know about Averett, but there should be plenty of Mount Union fans there and they have great tailgates.  They also have a great brand of football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 02, 2006, 01:12:41 AM
Good luck Cougars!!

Mt. Union has more national titles than years that Averett has fielded a football team.

Averett has come a long way from playing Galludet and Newport Apprentice for openers. Yikes. And another top 5 team next week!

The whole league will just keep getting better and better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Raider1 on September 02, 2006, 01:41:32 PM
Mt.Union  14   Averett 0    end of 1st qtr
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Raider1 on September 02, 2006, 01:50:37 PM
MUC  21    Averett  7
Jorris  to Garcon td reception.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Raider1 on September 02, 2006, 02:17:16 PM
MUC    35      Averett    7     2nd qtr
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Raider1 on September 02, 2006, 04:12:27 PM
MUC   64      Averett      7     FINAL
Title: Re: Guilford defeats Ferrum
Post by: hasanova on September 02, 2006, 05:01:33 PM
Great win for the Quakers over Ferrum, 49-35, on a sunny 80-degree day in Greensboro.  I don't have official stats, but QB Vogelbach set a new Guilford record with 6 TD passes (4 in the first half).  He had about 5 balls dropped today and only had one Interception. To be honest, the score should not have been that close.  Guilford led 35-7 at the half, should have gone up 42-7 on dropped TD passes and then there was a momentum shift in the 3rd.  Guilford rebounded in the 4th to go up 49-28 and then gave up a meaningless TD to Ferrum with 16 seconds to go for the final score.  In my opinion, it could (should?) have been about 56-21 because the Guilford receivers dropped 3 sure TD passes on one drive in the 3rd Quarter and Ferrum got a gift on two of their scores.  On one series, GC punter Travis Frazier took a low snap and the refs ruled his knee touched on the 21.  FC capitalized by throwing a TD up the middle on the next play.  I have personally not seen that happen in a long time - maybe in HS.

Honestly, Guilford had Ferrum pinned back almost all day, especially in the first half and the Quakers seemed to score at will in the first 30 minutes.  The lone first half score for the Panthers was a 74 yard run up the left side by QB Jermaine Pitts.  Most of Guilford's first half possessions started between the 45's and at least three times Guilford punts or kickoffs pinned FC around the 1 or 2 yard line.

Guilford had (I think) nearly 90 yards rushing out of the FB position and, believe it or not, seems to have some offensive balance despite the 6 passing TDs (the other was a rushing TD by the FB on a short and goal).  I know it's early, but other than QB Pitts, I don't think FC is as good as they were last year.  By the way, this is a 48-point swing from last year's 41-7 drubbing on opening day at Ferrum.

Go Quakers!  Great win today.
Title: Re: Game Story Guilford versus Ferrum
Post by: hasanova on September 02, 2006, 05:40:06 PM
http://www.guilford.edu/athletics/Ferrum.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: patcummings on September 02, 2006, 06:14:09 PM
I was at Rowan/CNU today...a few thoughts...

1.  Had CNU not made about 3 mistakes, it would have been 17-0.  Otherwise, CNU pulled out the shotgun and aimed directly at both their feet in the first four minutes of the game.  It was OVA.

2.  CNU's defense was actually pretty good - against a non-Rowan, they'll be solid.  (Should be read...next week should still be brutal).

3.  Bryant/Faison split time the whole game - Faison was clearly better, but that wasn't saying much.

4.  Weather only played a minor role in the game, in my opinion - Bryant's fumble early in the game which turned into a Rowan score.  Otherwise, the long snapper's blunders cost CNU 9 points.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 02, 2006, 08:13:34 PM
Newport News Apprentice 21, NC Wesleyan 20
Blocked punt with 1:10 left returned 48 yards for winning td
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 02, 2006, 09:06:39 PM
not a very good day for the usasac...other than the m'ville win over 1st year lagrange, it's been an oh-fer day...maybe the pride can pull the shocker against d2 mars hill...not holding my breath, though

quackers are on the clock...and they make me nervous
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 02, 2006, 10:23:33 PM
Greensboro 13 Marrs Hill 38.

The score is only part of the game.  I will tell you this Greensboro will not finish in last place this year.  Way to play hard the whole time against a D-II school.  That rb #8 is a horse. the real differnce in the game, (QB 12 had 28 points on rushing TD's, but #8 got them there)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 03, 2006, 12:09:29 AM
narch, I'm not sure what'll happen in Fayetteville next week, but the Quakers looked sharp today.  Honestly, other than the one interception and some balls the Guilford receivers just flat out dropped, Ferrum could not stop the Guilford passing attack.  There are a lot of options for Vogelbach (Barnette, Joyner, Rushing, Vaughn) plus some new-found rushing out of the FB position and some nice catches from a freshman TE (#80).  Although the Defense gave up 35 today, they looked better than that.  There was the 74 yard run by Pitts and a TD immediately following a fluke downing of the ball when the GC's punter had to go down on his knee to catch a low snap.  I think the defensive effort today was about 21 points, so they just need to work on a few mistakes.  Should be interesting next week.   Even though the game is on the road, I think it helps GC to have a game under their belt and hurts MC to be their opener.   Not sure when it'll happen, but I can sincerely see Vogelbach getting 7 or 8 TD passes in a game this year if they're needed to win.  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on September 03, 2006, 12:28:56 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 03, 2006, 12:09:29 AM
Not sure when it'll happen, but I can sincerely see Vogelbach getting 7 or 8 TD passes in a game this year if they're needed to win.  Peace

Are you trying to turn my hair gray in one fell swoop, because you are succeeding, Hasanova!!  It's like Jeckyl and Hyde (sp) -- so crappy in that scrimmage and then so good against Ferrum.  I might get too nervous to make the brownies (just kidding!!!).  Sounded like a solid win!!  And you all were in the sunlight while we were slogging in the rain.  It would have been miserable except that the guys were playing so well today.  Who could complain about a little rain, OK a lot of rain, OK 2 full days of rain, but 41 - 0 gives one a suntan in the rain  :) :) :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 03, 2006, 02:34:45 AM
Pat C - thanks for the update. I was going to make the game, but Ernesto changed my plans. I listened on the radio. It was very painful. Coach K said it best in the post game - paraphrasing - this was the most pathetic game in the history of CNU football.

I figured Orihel would light up CNU's LB corp. But he didn't need to. All he had to do to score was watch CNU try to punt the ball, hang on to the ball, run the ball. The D seemed to play well for CNU. Some will say that D wins championships - but it should be added, only if the offense can gain more than 36 yards in total offense. -84 rushing. 51 of those were sacks, so the rest of it (-33) was pitiful. I don't care if you play the best D in the history of football, you should gain more than 36 yards.

I agree - next week may not be any better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 03, 2006, 11:03:58 AM
Quote from: Olinemom on September 03, 2006, 12:28:56 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 03, 2006, 12:09:29 AM
Not sure when it'll happen, but I can sincerely see Vogelbach getting 7 or 8 TD passes in a game this year if they're needed to win.  Peace

Are you trying to turn my hair gray in one fell swoop, because you are succeeding, Hasanova!!  It's like Jeckyl and Hyde (sp) -- so crappy in that scrimmage and then so good against Ferrum.  I might get too nervous to make the brownies (just kidding!!!).  Sounded like a solid win!!  And you all were in the sunlight while we were slogging in the rain.  It would have been miserable except that the guys were playing so well today.  Who could complain about a little rain, OK a lot of rain, OK 2 full days of rain, but 41 - 0 gives one a suntan in the rain  :) :) :)
Hey, olinemom.  Not trying to color anyone's hair, but I honestly see it coming!  :)  Guilford was running about five (good, by the way) receivers yesterday and daring Ferrum to cover all of them.  I don't know how to explain it for this one day, but it just looked very easy.  Vogelbach was 31-46 with one interception, 6 TDs and 338 yards.  No sacks, so even though the OL has been totally revamped, they protected him.  He had about 5 dropped balls that were perfectly thrown, so I think he should have been about 36 of 46 for 7 TDs.  Trenches was there, so I think he'll back me up.

The NNA scrimmage is hard to explain.  Did they have an off day, were they tired from the long trip, did they party Friday night, were the coaches deliberately sandbagging?  I'm not sure, but what enzoneking6 described from last weekend is not what I saw yesterday.

I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch, so to speak, but I sincerely hope both teams are still playing well on Oct. 14.  I can tell you, without a doubt, the Guilford players are taking one game at a time, but they have certainly circled the Bridgewater game on their schedules.  I think every team wants to win them all, of course, but I believe there are four games the Quakers really want this season:  Ferrum, Greensboro, Hampden-Sydney and Bridgewater.  One down.  Go Quakers!  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on September 03, 2006, 12:05:48 PM
Good job to guilford. It looks like they have found something good in vogelbach, which he made me nervous last year when we played them. Monarchs have got to put pressure on him and fast! Good quarterbacks cant do anything with someone in their face all day.

Greensboro will not be the last placed team in the conference, i agree with you there. If they keep everyone healthy, come time to start conference play, they will make some upsets this year. Look out everyone.

Shennandoah is still looking for an offense. Plyaing them last year, you could tell they missed a quarterback. We got up on them 28-0 and they are still trying to run traps, power, and iso's at us. I can see doing it if it works, but if you are that far behind you have got to throw the ball a little bit to give your team a chance, and barnes knows that they dont have a good quarterback. He also knows everyone else that plays them knows this too!

Ferrum still looks like ferrum, they will be tough. Pitts in my opinion will be player of the year this year for the USASAC. He has it all, and has a nice team to go along with it. They need to find a rythm though, when you force ferrum to come from behind, it puts them in the bind cuz they dont throw the ball alot. They run the triple option to perfection! trust me we couldnt stop it last year. They are a running team as well, but the difference in them and SU is, ferrum has a quarterback who can make something happen.

Monarchs are looking forward to the game with guilford. I am coming to that and bringing a couple of my high school football players with me. We have got to stop the pass and we have to control the game. Do not let voglebach get into a rythm. With the new additions on defense, the monarchs look real good. The whole D-line are returning all-conference players, so they need to step it up and put the heat on. Northern is the best d-lineman in the conference. I aint sayin this just cuz i played with him, but let me explain. He is quick, can read with a quickness, get off blocks, run, and oh yeah did i mention he was fast! When you make sacks from the noseguard position and make tackles in the backfield the way he does, thats just crazy. Any offensive lineman knows that when they play him, they have a long day in front of them.

Hey narch, do alumni get in free to the game? we should after the money we pay to have went to school there! How bout this for some offense for ya. My J.V. team that i coach, I run the wishone with them. Our QB is a freshman, and can read the option like crazy. We racked up 443 yards rushing the other night at our game. QB had 265, running back had 164, our fullback rumbled for 86 yds, and a couple of others got in the mix too. Turned right around and the Varsity had 400 yds total offense against swain. Tell me they didnt play defense. Lol!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 03, 2006, 05:24:57 PM
Papi
Looks like my coup to Bragg has been scuttled (nautical term in honor of Papi). I thought I had pulled one.

If I did make it somehow if I get things turned back on how will I id you. I know Narch will be wearing chaps
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on September 03, 2006, 07:50:31 PM
Papi....you going to the game next weekend?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2006, 10:13:52 PM
51 - i don't think alumni get into the games free, but i think it's only 6 bucks to get in...i know you've got that kind of scratch :)

i agree with your assesment of northern...that little dude is ALWAYS in the backfield disrupting things...he can ball

i also agree on your analysis of pitts...he's a monster when he's healthy...problem is he doesn't have the line or rb's he had last year...we'll see what happens

'nova - i think you'll see a different team this week than you did this past week - the monarchs are quicker and more athletic than ferrum on defense, and they've got some db's that will cover - i suspect that mr. vogelbach and the ol will see lots of guys in their face, 'cause you can't let him stand back there and pick guys to throw to...he'll eat you alive

i also think the monarch offense should help the defense by keeping vogelbach and co. off the field - mike hill is the best rb in the conference, in my opinion, and joseph matthews is a very solid #2 - they're running behind a solid line and they've got an inexperienced qb...sounds like the recipe for running the ball (and the clock) to me...i'm hoping it works out that way

unfortunately, i won't be there...family vacation in emerald isle was planned in advance of the schedule being announced, and i'm not paying that kind of cash for a place i'm not staying in!  i will be doing everything i can to get near a computer and listen, though
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 04, 2006, 12:20:23 AM
Quote from: narch on September 03, 2006, 10:13:52 PM
i also agree on your analysis of pitts...he's a monster when he's healthy...problem is he doesn't have the line or rb's he had last year...we'll see what happens

'nova - i think you'll see a different team this week than you did this past week - the monarchs are quicker and more athletic than ferrum on defense, and they've got some db's that will cover - i suspect that mr. vogelbach and the ol will see lots of guys in their face, 'cause you can't let him stand back there and pick guys to throw to...he'll eat you alive    i also think the monarch offense should help the defense by keeping vogelbach and co. off the field - mike hill is the best rb in the conference, in my opinion, and joseph matthews is a very solid #2 - they're running behind a solid line and they've got an inexperienced qb...sounds like the recipe for running the ball (and the clock) to me...i'm hoping it works out that way

unfortunately, i won't be there...family vacation in emerald isle was planned in advance of the schedule being announced, and i'm not paying that kind of cash for a place i'm not staying in!  i will be doing everything i can to get near a computer and listen, though
I agree.  I think Methodist will be a good test.  Unfortunately, I can't be there either, but I will be checking in on the internet.  You're right about a couple of things.  I also think the Monarchs will try to run the ball and use up clock.  I also believe the Monarch Defense will try to be in Vogelbach's face all day.  Finally, Jermaine Pitts is a fine player.  I just didn't see the balanced running attack from Ferrum that we saw last year.  Other than a few plays, their passing game was generally ineffective.  It's an important game for both teams.  Go Quakers!   Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 04, 2006, 12:34:29 AM
GOOD NEWS ! ! !

After watching the effort The Pride put in against D2 Mars Hill, I know they are going to win several conference games, if not maybe all, this year! They may not see another QB as good as Mars Hill's Brandon Sims - he was a beast!

AND . . . I'll wager they WILL NOT LOSE this weekend!!!




ROLL PRIDE !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 04, 2006, 07:22:29 AM
Well a sad weekend for the Panthers. They still have a running game, but it appears that they are lacking a secondary. This is something CNU and Wesley figured out last year, and apparently Guilford picked up on this too.

Bridgewater in 2 weeks...Rutro Astro! Hang in there Ferrum!

GO PANTHERS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 04, 2006, 04:24:15 PM
Things just keep getting worse for the SU Hornets. The freshmen QB (Richard Glick) that many thought would start for Shenandoah very soon broke his leg last week in the final min's of the game and is most likley out for the rest of the year.  My GOD, what else could go wrong?  ???

here are the game notes for the SU/Bridgewater game.
http://www.su.edu/athletics/fb/fbgamenotes06.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on September 04, 2006, 09:46:57 PM
Narch your heading to my neck of the woods.  Have a good trip. I have not made my mind up if I am going to make it to the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 04, 2006, 11:41:55 PM
A slow night at work has gotten me thinking about this past weekend.

It was definitely a disappointing week for the conference. I wouldn't be bothered a bit by ending the weekend 1-6 if the games were a little less lopsided. But it's no secret that the USAC teams have really pulled out all the stops when it comes to the nonconference schedule this year.

Out of 23 nonconference games, at least six of those are against ranked teams, and four (I think) are against non-Div3 teams. Plus, Guilford, which one of the site's gurus has said is no longer a "gimme," makes an appearance against the USAC three times. In most cases, we're playing up. I don't expect the conference to be winning games right off the bat, but hopefully at this rate our teams will be able to be more accustomed in the next year or two to compete with some quicker and stronger teams. Of course, a win here and there -- even this year -- wouldn't be bad, either.

This past weekend, Ferrum was certianly a disappointment for me. I knew that there were some gaps in the passing offense and defense, but the team really was picked apart in the air. The Panthers don't have the run game this year to play each game as a shootout, so the defense really will need to step it up.

It was interesting to see the Greensboro result. They have a couple of transfers who had seen Div-II speed before, so I wasn't sure how that game would play out. Obviously, the score was pretty well out of reach, but maybe....just maybe...this toughened the Pride up a bit.

I still like Averett, and I still expect big things from that team. Sure, they were manhandled like a fish in prison, but if it's any consolation, they were manhandled by the biggest, meanest, hairiest guy in that prison. They didn't stand a chance, but as narch or someone else pointed out on the board a week or so ago, nobody else that Averett plays is going to hold a candle to Mount. The worst of the season is over; and there aren't many teams out there that can say that by Week 2.

Wesleyan showed some nice life to them, even though they did lose. There was a definitely glint of improvement there. Same with Maryville. OK, LaGrange was a first year team, but hopefully Maryville ironed out its kinks for the bigger games ahead. And CNU played as best they could against the No. 3-ranked team. CNU is in a down year, but this kind of ruined the allure that the CNU-Rowan rivalry has been creating.

And finally, there's Shenandoah. I feel bad for that team. I think that was the Hornets best chance at a win this year. Not only am I bummed for the players, but even moreso for Coach Barnes. All other things aside, if my son were to play for any coach in Div-III, I'd want it to be Barnes. That guy just has the most ideal philosophy about him, and he's the kind of person you always want to root for. I hope his team has some highs this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2006, 12:22:36 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on September 04, 2006, 11:41:55 PM
It was interesting to see the Greensboro result. They have a couple of transfers who had seen Div-II speed before, so I wasn't sure how that game would play out. Obviously, the score was pretty well out of reach, but maybe....just maybe...this toughened the Pride up a bit.

I don't know about the speed part that MH was faster, maybe a more sound team.  Don't get me wrong the Defense of GC looked lost at times but our DB's kept up well with MH (2 INT's) There weren't any Sacks though but there was alot of missed tackles if it wasn't for the RB the game would have been closer.  MH seemed to play real tired at the end too.  GC got Sacked once in the game.  The INT was a dropped pass. I wouldn't use the word speed maybe talent or fundamentals but not speed.  Then again MH was predicted to finish in 7th place in their conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 05, 2006, 01:18:50 AM
Thanks for your insight, BBallGuy. I'm guessing that you were there, and it's certainly nice to have a first-hand perspective.

There are a lot of expectations of speed when it comes to a scholarship team like Mars Hill, and I can't say for sure whether that facet was a determining factor or not. The scoreboard could very well have been a better reflection of the MHC's talent and fundamentals, as you say. I'll trust what you say there. With some of the Pride's transfers, could that have helped them adjust to playing a level above? (We can hope.)

Also, did the Pride get those two picks while Mars Hill still had it's first-string QB in. I was poring over the box score but couldn't tell when he was subbed out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on September 05, 2006, 12:48:35 PM
For those who like to see some pictures of SU they are located at http://www.fivemics.net/Shenandoah-2006.html

Only the home games this year, maybe next year I'll be making the road trips again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: section13raiderfan on September 05, 2006, 03:13:21 PM
Hey fivemicsl
I love the animation at the bottom of your post. Where did you get it? And do they have one  like it with coeds jello wrestling? Or is jello wrestling not a d3 sport? ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on September 05, 2006, 03:46:14 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on September 05, 2006, 01:18:50 AM
Thanks for your insight, BBallGuy. I'm guessing that you were there, and it's certainly nice to have a first-hand perspective.

There are a lot of expectations of speed when it comes to a scholarship team like Mars Hill, and I can't say for sure whether that facet was a determining factor or not. The scoreboard could very well have been a better reflection of the MHC's talent and fundamentals, as you say. I'll trust what you say there. With some of the Pride's transfers, could that have helped them adjust to playing a level above? (We can hope.)

Also, did the Pride get those two picks while Mars Hill still had it's first-string QB in. I was poring over the box score but couldn't tell when he was subbed out.

Mars Hill was just like we were on the Quarterback situation. They kept rotating the QB and we picked off each one of thier QBs once. The only thing that killed us was the running game. We couldnt stop it if I hadnt been for that I think that the game would of been alot closer at the end. The one thing that I know was I was really impressed with the  way that Randal Rankins played at QB for the pride Bacon good as well. The Int was not Rankins fault
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 05, 2006, 05:41:02 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on September 04, 2006, 11:41:55 PM
Plus, Guilford, which one of the site's gurus has said is no longer a "gimme," makes an appearance against the USAC three times.
Actually, it's four:  Ferrum, Methodist, Averett and Greensboro.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 05, 2006, 06:26:35 PM

[/quote]

Mars Hill was just like we were on the Quarterback situation. They kept rotating the QB and we picked off each one of thier QBs once. The only thing that killed us was the running game. We couldnt stop it if I hadnt been for that I think that the game would of been alot closer at the end. The one thing that I know was I was really impressed with the  way that Randal Rankins played at QB for the pride Bacon good as well. The Int was not Rankins fault
[/quote]

GCG - In your opinion - Who do you think looked better at QB?  Both were under 50% completion - was it bad passes, dropped passes or just great defense?   

I guess one interception for the night is better than the six we had last year on opening day . . . but I don't know if losing 32-7 is worse than losing 38-13! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2006, 06:40:19 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 05, 2006, 06:26:35 PM
The one thing that I know was I was really impressed with the  way that Randal Rankins played at QB for the pride Bacon good as well. The Int was not Rankins fault

GCG - In your opinion - Who do you think looked better at QB?  Both were under 50% completion - was it bad passes, dropped passes or just great defense?   

I guess one interception for the night is better than the six we had last year on opening day . . . but I don't know if losing 32-7 is worse than losing 38-13! !

D3Newbie- Honestly I thought Bacon looked a little better then Rankins.  Wasn't he the one that had a TD that was dropped and another that I thought there could have been had it not been for the no call on the defensive holding.

The offense looked ok but the defense looked horrible.  I felt this was a better 38-13 game..(We spotted 21 points this year in the 1Q) I think we were down 16-0 last year at halftime.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 05, 2006, 11:12:34 PM
Quote from: section13raiderfan on September 05, 2006, 03:13:21 PMAnd do they have one  like it with coeds jello wrestling? Or is jello wrestling not a d3 sport? ;D

I believe that is intramurals. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 05, 2006, 11:25:33 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 05, 2006, 05:41:02 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on September 04, 2006, 11:41:55 PM
Plus, Guilford, which one of the site's gurus has said is no longer a "gimme," makes an appearance against the USAC three times.
Actually, it's four:  Ferrum, Methodist, Averett and Greensboro.

D'oh....you're absolutely right. Can I chalk that mistake up to being tired/bored/zoned out after a full day of work Monday?  ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 05, 2006, 11:52:23 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on September 05, 2006, 11:25:33 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 05, 2006, 05:41:02 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on September 04, 2006, 11:41:55 PM
Plus, Guilford, which one of the site's gurus has said is no longer a "gimme," makes an appearance against the USAC three times.
Actually, it's four:  Ferrum, Methodist, Averett and Greensboro.

D'oh....you're absolutely right. Can I chalk that mistake up to being tired/bored/zoned out after a full day of work Monday?  ::)
Absolutely.  Since I'm a Quaker alumnus and fan, I've got the schedule memorized.  No reason you should, too.  lol  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on September 06, 2006, 02:27:40 PM
I would love the Jello affect, but what you see is what I have.  You can use it, I picked up on a free web site a few years ago. It wasn't copy righted.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 06, 2006, 10:34:41 PM
inside monarch football (http://www.futuremediaworld.com/methodist.htm) - some nice nuggets from coach sy - click the "listen live" link
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 06, 2006, 10:44:19 PM
Thanks for the link, narch.

Since coach says that no freshmen are starting, does that mean it's pretty much a done deal that Schultz is going to be the starter under center against Guilford?

Oooo, wait, scratch that last comment. I'm still listening to Sypult's remarks, and I'm just getting to the part where he's addressing the QB stuff. I posted a little premature.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on September 07, 2006, 08:28:07 AM
Listening to Coach Sypult on the interview, he sounds confident, but hesitant. Which comes from exactly what he said, they have only practiced 2 times this week outside. That can be an issue for the guys to get their heads on straight. In the gym, i know when we were there, we worked in there, it wasnt just grab@$$ time in there. I know the boys worked hard.

As for the QB position, last year, i know Bartee was going to be something special to the monarchs, if he could grow up. Coming from some of the guys down there, he has done exactly that. If this is the case, then the monarchs will be one step closer to another conference championship. With him at the head, and the line and recievers he has to go along with and the backs to go, offense looks greta for the monarchs.

Defensively, the monarchs are always going to do one thing, hit you in the mouth. The guys are real confident and ready to go. I know Northern, gauntlett, farell, and shuford wont let us down with the big hits. They just seemed to keep on coming last year. From some of the guys in camp, Farell looks really good, and Lawerence will be an All- conference performer this year, he has the ability to be an all-american if he will get the looks. I think the team just needs to gel together and once that time comes, they'll get the job done.

To look at the team of the monarchs, i aint sayin this just cuz i graduated from there, but they have the team, once again to win conference. Go get em boys!!




GO MONARCHS!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on September 07, 2006, 01:05:53 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 05, 2006, 06:26:35 PM



GCG - In your opinion - Who do you think looked better at QB?  Both were under 50% completion - was it bad passes, dropped passes or just great defense?   

I guess one interception for the night is better than the six we had last year on opening day . . . but I don't know if losing 32-7 is worse than losing 38-13! !
[/quote]

Newbie--In some aspects the both looked good. But, If I had to name a perm. starter I would take Randel Rankins at the helm. But we couldnt really tell which one was better they both will look better in Wk 3 of college football when we play Maryville someone more in our league.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: patcummings on September 08, 2006, 03:37:16 PM
Uncle Jessie...

Per your earlier email to me...

I believe Augustana used the offense, or at least a derivation of the three back system, to rousing success and four Stagg Bowl championships...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 08, 2006, 04:00:39 PM
1 post today, only 2 yesterday...and it's after the first game of the season.....this board is getting weak.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on September 08, 2006, 04:31:19 PM
CNU and eveyone. I dont know about you but I dont think that the USA South conf. record will get much better this weekend we were like 1-6 for the week. That is not a good sign for our conf.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on September 08, 2006, 04:41:17 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 08, 2006, 04:00:39 PM
1 post today, only 2 yesterday...and it's after the first game of the season.....this board is getting weak.

Just don't become worse than the Centennial board.  Talk about weak.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 08, 2006, 04:50:48 PM
Thanks Pat. I knew someone had to use it in the Stagg recently and SU had some good success with it as we know in 2003-04. I still wish they would mix it up some. the Ace-Wing is a great system to use when you are up by 10 points to eat up the clock. But In all the years of recent Hornet history the team is not that good at making a comeback when they are down by as many points. You just cant make a comeback and still eat up the clock and expect to win the game at the end. The team is so predictable and boring to watch. Run for about 6-10 plays in a row and maybe, just maybe a passing play.  I know Ferrum runs a form of it but they seem to mix it up more when I watch them each year. I wish SU would do that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 09, 2006, 08:45:59 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 08, 2006, 04:00:39 PM
1 post today, only 2 yesterday...and it's after the first game of the season.....this board is getting weak.

The crickets really have been chirping on this board as of late. :'( So, just for the sake of saying something, I think the conference has a pretty real shot at going 3-3 today, assuming losses to Bridgewater, Wesley and UMHB (all really good teams).

That said, with a slip here and there, we could again wind up with an unfortunate one-win weekend, which none of us want!

Good luck to our boys today! I'm heading to Newport News to see CNU play. I hope it'll be a good one.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 09, 2006, 09:47:54 AM
here's how i see things shaping up this week (feel free to count these in my pick 'ems, legacy :))

wesley 45 - au 17: cougars don't have enough for wolverines, but hey, they aren't muc :)

bridgewater 56 - su 17: hornets score on eagles 4th string

umhb 27 - cnu 17: captains play tougher than week one, but fall to 0-2

ncwc 24 - sova 20: bishops slip by

m'ville 20 - centre 17: scots go to 2-0

mc 45 - gcq 38: monarchs slow vogelbach (to a point), but the quackers have no answer for mike hill and monarch running game...hill will get 200+

keep in mind, these are only predictions :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Trenches on September 09, 2006, 10:20:24 AM
Quote from: narch on September 09, 2006, 09:47:54 AM

mc 45 - gcq 38: monarchs slow vogelbach (to a point), but the quackers have no answer for mike hill and monarch running game...hill will get 200+


Even if GCQ gives up 200+ rushing (which is likely consideirng the track record), I still don't see them giving up 45 points this afternoon.  It'll be a good game and high scoring at that, but i'll go 38-35 GCQ  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 09, 2006, 02:09:03 PM
gcq- 13 mc-5 late in 2nd quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 09, 2006, 02:34:35 PM
Captains lead 15-7 over Mary Hardin-Baylor at halftime.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 09, 2006, 03:52:36 PM
27-11 GCQ- tough loss for the monarchs, but they will bounce back.  Defense did a great job for the most part.  The offense sounded alright but we couldn't finish drives.  Good Job GCQ, Watch out Braves!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on September 09, 2006, 03:54:17 PM
Good game SU.. keep up the hardwork and you'll get back to where you belong! 


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 09, 2006, 04:01:58 PM
Well, as expected it was another Hornet loss. However I have to say I was very impressed with the freshman QB Twaun Rhodes. He seemed to keep his cool through out the game when he could had easily had freaked out facing the 13th best team in the country. I hope he gets another chance to play next week. I also liked how Barnes showed some gutzo by doing the onside kick to start off the game. The defense I couldn't ask for much more than what they did today. The score board doesn't show how well they played I don't think. Like last week they were on the field for so long it just wore them out. They did not give up 100 yards to a BC back. They played with the Eagles for much of the first half, but the stronger team took control. The Offense still has a lot of work to do. Lacey had -3 yards. They need to spread the ball more to give him a chance. This was the Hornets 9th straight loss. Yikes! When will the madness end??!! ??? I could harp so much on the negatives but I have to look at the positives. Its a rebuilding year unfortunately it could had been a lot worse. GO HORNETS!!

Good luck to the Eagles and the rest of the ODAC family the rest of the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on September 09, 2006, 04:03:13 PM
May your whole season be as wild CNU. Way to go.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 09, 2006, 04:14:46 PM
15-10 Final CNU defeats No. 6 Mary Hardin-Baylor
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2006, 04:37:06 PM
as Dick Enberg would say..."Oh My!!"

what a game. Absolutely the best game I've been to. After last week, I was just hoping for some respect. CNU took it to UMHB. Both teams fought hard, hit hard. CNU showed some character today. I can't wait to see the stats...I bet UMHB didn't get their 400+ yards of O. CNU hurt themselves with penalties..the one long TD pass that was called back would have sealed it a lot earlier than 40 seconds remaining. The long punt return that was called back was tough to take as a fan. Gotta stop those mistakes.

Prayers are with Matt Barcus - CNU punter. Looks like he may very well be headed to surgery tonight. Let's hope for the best!!

Considering the distance, the UMHB fan support was impressive. They're a very scary team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 09, 2006, 04:38:45 PM
Congrats to CNU.  I am very impressed.  What other scores are final.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 09, 2006, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: rocket on September 09, 2006, 03:52:36 PM
27-11 GCQ- tough loss for the monarchs, but they will bounce back.  Defense did a great job for the most part.  The offense sounded alright but we couldn't finish drives.  Good Job GCQ, Watch out Braves!
I'm sure the Monarchs miss you this season, but they're still a good team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 09, 2006, 05:04:54 PM
Bridgewater 30, Shenandoah 0
Wesley was winning 28-17 last I heard over Averett
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 09, 2006, 05:36:46 PM
Wow, what an amazing game in Newport News today! CNU, you impressed the hell out of me. The Captains always seem to play tough at home -- I remembered that from the Rowan game last year, too. The players were really fired up during warmups, and I'm glad that they weren't intimidated by the big bad boys from Texas.

Did I say "wow" yet?

There's a lot to say about the game, but I'm at work right now, so I have to be prudent with my time. I might post more later. For now, though, I will echo the sentiments about the punter. I wish him the best.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2006, 06:40:35 PM
I just read the box score....

GOOSE  -fix the stats...Brain Long had a catch. I think it was given to Gooch.

Also - fix the game program.......I'll send an email.....I'm a Vice admiral, not a Captain.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: JT on September 09, 2006, 07:15:46 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2006, 06:40:35 PM
I just read the box score....

GOOSE  -fix the stats...Brain Long had a catch. I think it was given to Gooch.

Also - fix the game program.......I'll send an email.....I'm a Vice admiral, not a Captain.

Good job CNU, way to bounce back.  How's the punter... what happened?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 09, 2006, 07:22:18 PM
Why dont you tell the CNU sid staff to fix it CNU85!!!!  ;)

Last I heard on Barcus, x-rays were negative for any broken bones, from what i heard, its just a deep tissue bruise.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 09, 2006, 07:27:48 PM
Quote from: JT on September 09, 2006, 07:15:46 PM
Good job CNU, way to bounce back.  How's the punter... what happened?

CNU was punting from the end zone when a UMHB player came in really hard and really fast. I think he got a piece of the ball (it went about 25 yards), but the UMHB guy plowed into the punter's leg. The punter just collapsed and never got back up. I imagine it was a lot like taking a 230 lbs baseball bat to your leg.

Fans were pissed because a flag wasn't called (I can't/won't attempt to make an objective call on whether it should've been a penalty). And CNU's coach was pissed because the EMS crews were sitting back and not coming out to help. The kid was taken to the hospital via ambulance and police escort.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2006, 10:25:07 PM
Goose  -I will tell the big guy about it.

WC - Although I didn't like some of the flags...I think the refs did a good job. That punt was clearly deflected...at least from my point of view. Good to hear it's just a bruise....although I'm sure it hurts like a mother!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 09, 2006, 10:35:05 PM
As an 04  alum of the football team. I just want to say that I AM REALLY PROUD OF THE YOUNG CAPTAINS. Coming off a dissapointing loss to the Profs last week and after being left 4 dead by the media. You showed everyone in the football nation what CNU football is all about.


P.S. I guess you can give some real Kudos to Rowan. They are the only top team to consistently win at Pomoco or against the Captains period.

Keep up the good work. AND HOW ABOUT THE PAST FOOTBALL PLAYERS WHO CAME OUT TO SHOW LOVE TO GOOD OLD POMOCO AND CNU FOOTBALL. IT WAS A PLEASURE SEEING ALL OF YOU AND WE GOTA  DO IT AGAIN.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 10, 2006, 12:32:10 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2006, 10:25:07 PM
Although I didn't like some of the flags...I think the refs did a good job.

Agreed. There really didn't seem to be hardly any contentious calls this game. But as a side note, there were more delay of game penalties than I usually see. I don't know what that was all about.  ???

Overall, the abundance of big plays really made this game fun. CNU came out swinging with that fake punt (I didn't even have my camera ready on that one; did anyone see that coming?). It was a beautiful play.

Then there was UMHB's touchdown, where the running back just muscled his way through the CNU defense. I swear I thought that guy was going to get tackled four or five times before he actually hit the endzone. It was a good long run.

Throw in a few long conversions for 1st downs, and it was a memorable day in Newport News.

Around the rest of the conference:
-- It was nice to see Averett not get pummeled so badly this week, but it was still a hefty loss. Judging solely by the scores, it looks like the Cougars' defense needs to step it up a notch. It was, at least, a marked improvement over the game from last year. As for next week, hopefully Guilford won't continue its sweep of the conference.
-- Speaking of which, it looks like Methodist took a little beating today. Guilford just did it's thing through the air again (400+ yards!). On the flip side, the box score shows the Monarchs offense to be pretty lopsided in favor of the run game today. I suspect, with the arsenal of receivers they have, that they'll have to improve through the air this year if they expect to put up some wins.
-- Maryville lost....that's a big bummer. I was among those kind of hoping that the Scots would be a breakout sleeper team this year. Falling to a team like Centre kind of ruins that fantasy.
-- Wesleyan emerged with a nice huge win over SoVa. The Bishops are already showing signs of being significantly better than last year. Let's see if that trend continues.
-- As for Shenandoah, pretty much what we were all probably expecting.

The USAC was 2-4 for the day....is the silver lining the fact that that's twice as many wins as last weekend?  :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Powerslant/I on September 10, 2006, 01:48:51 PM
Major win, BIG TIME win for CNU, but if we are going to win the conference and advance beyond, two things must improve. 1. O line has got to get better; 2. D line has got to tackle like college athletes.  O line took 14 pts off the board themselves,  D line air grabing, they gave up two big gains which was the only bad spot for them all day (check the personnel at the time).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Powerslant/I on September 10, 2006, 01:54:27 PM
I want complain about the officating of the CNU games of the past two weeks.  The officials don't beat us, we steep on our own two feet.  Personally I think CNU has gain respect from USA SOUTH officials in the past years.  They are starting to realize that CNU has a right to compete with other teams in the conference.  This win over UMHB should pump us up into the top 15 this week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on September 10, 2006, 02:32:04 PM
WOW!!! My internet has been down since I got back from the CNU game. COX just left the house and I am online again. I have been dying to know what the reaction was to CNU's win. I have been a season ticket holder since game one and I think this was one of the best CNU games I have seen yet (Maybe the best division III game I have seen). Our passing game looked awesome. We actually had the deep threat going. Faison was great, 16 of 24 for 213 and a TD (including a 49 Yard TD). Kelchner is a awesome coach. His play calling was very strong. My only concern are our little running backs and o-line. The o-line cost us pts. This game was not as close as the score indicates. Our backs have speed but they were tossed around by the UMHB line.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 10, 2006, 03:24:34 PM
i wasn't at the mc/gcq game, but all reports were that the monarchs played sloppy, sloppy football...and the box score confirms this - 4 turnovers, 9 penalties for 78 yards...not the kind of football you expect from the defending conference co-champions, but not entirely unex"pected from a team that was playing it's first game with very few "live" practices - i suspect they'll be better next week against chowan

great win captains...way to salvage some respect for the conference...just 3 wins on the season for the usasac...yuck!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DVgradRUdad on September 10, 2006, 04:57:24 PM
Great win CNU, a win next week would set a nice turn in momentum, I was at the Rowan game last year, what a great complex and great fan support.....I was a Aggie and played at DVC years ago our field wasn't as nice as our pasture for the cows, I was curious what type of turf do you have, it looked as nice as any golf course green up here in Jersey, bermuda grass possibly, I don't think bent grass is tuff enough.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUdude on September 10, 2006, 08:11:46 PM
Awsome win for CNU!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bill McCabe on September 10, 2006, 09:06:29 PM
Congratulations to CNU on a great win.  Good luck the rest of the season.  Perhaps they can meet UMHB again later in the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on September 11, 2006, 08:58:51 AM
Great win for the Captains. I saw the box score, the defense for them is for real this year. This win does a lot for you guys, for one it gives you momentum to go the rest of the year and play as well as you did against MHB, and if this is the case, then watch out USASAC!

The Monarchs looked ok on Saturday. I went and watched them, and let me be the first to tell you Vogelbach is a phenominal QB. The defense was in the right place, he just threw ropes to the recievers and put them in a position where only they could get the ball. Offensively for the monarchs, they have got to convert inside the redzone. They shot themselves in the foot when they would get down there. The O-line is young, and have not played together yet, but those boys started looking good later on in the game. They will figure the blitzes out. Mike hill looks better than he did last year running the ball. He hits the hole with a speed that is unbelievable, and with power. This year he isnt dancing or trying to outrun some people he lowers his head and busts through the hole. Bartee played a good game. It was his first game, you think he would be nervous, but that young man has grown up. He made some good decisions. overall, the monarchs will have a good year if they stay healthy and stay together.

Good job monarchs, keep it up!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2006, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: MCol51 on September 11, 2006, 08:58:51 AM
Great win for the Captains. I saw the box score, the defense for them is for real this year. This win does a lot for you guys, for one it gives you momentum to go the rest of the year and play as well as you did against MHB, and if this is the case, then watch out USASAC!

The Monarchs looked ok on Saturday. I went and watched them, and let me be the first to tell you Vogelbach is a phenominal QB. The defense was in the right place, he just threw ropes to the recievers and put them in a position where only they could get the ball. Offensively for the monarchs, they have got to convert inside the redzone. They shot themselves in the foot when they would get down there. The O-line is young, and have not played together yet, but those boys started looking good later on in the game. They will figure the blitzes out. Mike hill looks better than he did last year running the ball. He hits the hole with a speed that is unbelievable, and with power. This year he isnt dancing or trying to outrun some people he lowers his head and busts through the hole. Bartee played a good game. It was his first game, you think he would be nervous, but that young man has grown up. He made some good decisions. overall, the monarchs will have a good year if they stay healthy and stay together.

Good job monarchs, keep it up!!!!
MC will still have a good season.  They're a fine  team and it was a tough road test for Guilford.  The Quakers had an advantage with one game under their belt and a more experienced QB.  Speaking of Vogelbach, he now has 4290 yards passing and has accounted for 48 TD's (46 passing) - in 12 games!  Can you imagine what his stats will be after he plays 40 (or more!) games in college?  From a Guilford fan's point-of-view, it sure is fun to watch. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 11, 2006, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: DVgradRUdad on September 10, 2006, 04:57:24 PM
Great win CNU, a win next week would set a nice turn in momentum, I was at the Rowan game last year, what a great complex and great fan support.....I was a Aggie and played at DVC years ago our field wasn't as nice as our pasture for the cows, I was curious what type of turf do you have, it looked as nice as any golf course green up here in Jersey, bermuda grass possibly, I don't think bent grass is tuff enough.

Im pretty sure its bermuda.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 11, 2006, 08:12:48 PM
Happy Birthday CNWhooooo 85!

You got a great game and a win on Saturday. Now if your Purple boys can come through tonight it will be a perfect birthday, aye?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 12, 2006, 11:54:28 AM
Llama - you have an OUTSTANDING memory......Not only did my purple guys do ok last night...on MY BIRTHDAY...but the kicker missed the extra point just for me...so the game would end up 19-16 and I had 9 and 6 in the office pool...$125 for me!!!!!

Heck - I even gots me a new wheel for my wheelbarrel last night...yeehaaaaw!!!!!!!!!!!

I reckon that was a good birthday wekeend!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 12, 2006, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 12, 2006, 11:54:28 AM
Llama - you have an OUTSTANDING memory......Not only did my purple guys do ok last night...on MY BIRTHDAY...but the kicker missed the extra point just for me...so the game would end up 19-16 and I had 9 and 6 in the office pool...$125 for me!!!!!

Heck - I even gots me a new wheel for my wheelbarrel last night...yeehaaaaw!!!!!!!!!!!

I reckon that was a good birthday wekeend!!!

Yeah I remember when you guys took us down in the Oyster Bowl quite well. ;) Actually I just used a little technology, Kid's message board at BridgewaterFootball.com (http://bridgewaterfootball.com) lists birthdays daily and yours came up when I was posting yesterday. Glad you had a good one!

I also noticed if you click on the calander at the top of this page it lists some birthdays there as well. (ha,ha)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 12, 2006, 12:27:32 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 12, 2006, 11:54:28 AM
Llama - you have an OUTSTANDING memory......Not only did my purple guys do ok last night...on MY BIRTHDAY...but the kicker missed the extra point just for me...so the game would end up 19-16 and I had 9 and 6 in the office pool...$125 for me!!!!!

Heck - I even gots me a new wheel for my wheelbarrel last night...yeehaaaaw!!!!!!!!!!!

I reckon that was a good birthday wekeend!!!
Not that your birthday isn't important - it is! - but birthdays on 9/11 will be pretty difficult to forget from now on.  I have a cousin whose birthday is 9/11 and before 2001 I could never remember.  Not anymore!  Anyway, on a happier note, Happy Birthday!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 12, 2006, 01:12:47 PM
dang fellas......sniff sniff.....I'm feeling special!! ;D

Hey - thanks!!!!!! when you get old like me, it's nice when people remember!!

I'm hoping CNU will make me feel real special when they head up to Salisbury this weekend. I was thinking about heading up there this weekend......but I got a feeling I'll be putting my new wheel into action in the back yard....... headphones and the game on radio will have to suffice.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 12, 2006, 01:18:50 PM
Yikes....I just looked at the calendar. Glad I didn't put in my birthday!!! I would be the second oldest guy in September!!!!

Poll question - Who will be the first team to score on Bridgewater this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 12, 2006, 05:48:49 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 12, 2006, 01:18:50 PM
Yikes....I just looked at the calendar. Glad I didn't put in my birthday!!! I would be the second oldest guy in September!!!!

Poll question - Who will be the first team to score on Bridgewater this year?

I'll take a shot: How about Ferrum in the 2nd quarter. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hug on September 13, 2006, 09:35:29 AM
HSC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 13, 2006, 10:05:22 AM
Hmm - Ferrum at home.  I think the Eagles will win, but I don't see the Panthers being shutout this weekend.  I think Ferrum will score against BC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 13, 2006, 10:18:39 AM
CNU 85, Im with ya on the headphones!! Although I wont be doing any yard work!! I dont know if you remember or not, but three years ago today, the Captains were playing at McDaniel in the driving rain, a 7-6 CNU victory if I remember correctly. But that weekend was a special one as my first child was born the very next morning. And I remember listening to the game on the radio and computer while the wife was laboring at home!! What a fantastic weekend that was!! So Ill be partying it up with a bunch of three year olds on Saturday!!

Oh by the way, go Capts. Lets make Pat Cummings eat his words about inconsistencies and inability to score points!!  ;) You know im playin Pat, always enjoy reading your Around the Region!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 13, 2006, 10:54:08 AM

THIS WEEKEND:

Greensboro or Maryville?  And why!!

What do the online experts say?   ???





ROLL TIDE ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 13, 2006, 12:52:59 PM
MARYVILLE!!!

Because they are better!!

I dont know why, I just think they will win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on September 13, 2006, 01:04:18 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 13, 2006, 12:52:59 PM
MARYVILLE!!!

Because they are better!!

I dont know why, I just think they will win.

He said experts, Goose13. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2006, 05:10:27 PM
Goose - I remember that weekend and your new baby. A bunch of 3 year olds, huh? Going to Chuck E Cheese?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 13, 2006, 08:47:36 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 13, 2006, 10:54:08 AM

THIS WEEKEND:

Greensboro or Maryville?  And why!!

What do the online experts say?   ???





ROLL TIDE ! !  

Greensboro.  Like Maryville has really played some tough teams.  LaGrange and Centre.  I really expected more out of Maryville when they played Centre. To beat them.  Greensboro has two quality QB's this year, unlike the past.  Maryville is no Mars Hill. Plus 2 weeks to prepare for Maryville.  It should be a close game either way.  Greensboro wins it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 13, 2006, 11:20:54 PM
Hasa
You may be right IRT the BC dreaded Panther game but GC-Q usually wins up there. I think BC blows them up

I notice that there are alot of Averette picks over GC-Q. History has proven that AC has had their number. You know the axion "some teams have match-up problems" but I think that monkey come off that back this week. Anyway as long as they beat those dirty Eagles. (said with respect Matt so don't blow a seal)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on September 13, 2006, 11:35:51 PM
I agree with Pride Greensboro will walk away with the win. And Goose you need to do some research before you make your pick. I say GC by 10.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 14, 2006, 01:47:01 AM
RGR....I was beginning to wonder if you had gone on some secret squirrel mission to hunt for Narch's leather chaps
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 14, 2006, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on September 13, 2006, 11:35:51 PM
I agree with Pride Greensboro will walk away with the win. And Goose you need to do some research before you make your pick. I say GC by 10.

Gullett
I want some pizza for the game Saturday.  Yeah the Pride will win.  I wouldn't use the phrase "walk away"  Maryville can run the football. Greensboro can't stop the run.  It won't be a 10 point win.  In fact if it is 10 or more then I would be very surprized.

Goose-Until Greensboro does have a winning season then you are right Maryville may be better.  I just hope not this week or this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: JAF on September 14, 2006, 03:05:57 PM
Does anybody know the status of Matt Barcus, the CNU punter? I thought that I remembered reading earlier that maybe he had not broken anything but it was a deep bruise. I noticed that he is not listed on the depth chart this week but there is no mention of his injury in the game notes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 14, 2006, 04:24:25 PM
I heard they were looking at his knee, had an MRI scheduled...maybe an ACL???? I'm sure goose will tell us when something is official. I only heard my version in a bar the other night.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 14, 2006, 05:42:25 PM
Papi
You old salt. I thought you were dead.

I was tied up in the SCIF for a few days; however' I heard you got hurt on a "motorcycle", I take that is BS, correct?

Is MC going to better than the last game? How is the QB situation there?

It's hard to replace a man like Ronketti. Did he get commissioned or is he coaching?

What's the deal on AC. They have had GC-Q's number as of late.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 14, 2006, 09:55:44 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 13, 2006, 11:20:54 PM
Hasa
You may be right IRT the BC dreaded Panther game but GC-Q usually wins up there. I think BC blows them up

I notice that there are alot of Averette picks over GC-Q. History has proven that AC has had their number. You know the axion "some teams have match-up problems" but I think that monkey come off that back this week. Anyway as long as they beat those dirty Eagles. (said with respect Matt so don't blow a seal)
Howdy, abnrgr.  I don't know, just call it a hunch after watching Ferrum play on Sept. 2.   I think they'll be the first team to put some points on BC this year.  Bridgewater is awfully good and I think the Eagles will win, but the Panthers have had two weeks to stew over the loss to the Quakers and the six passing TDs by Vogelbach.  I think FC will give a very good effort for the home crowd.  Well, AU's "history" over GC is only two games so far, but I think it will be a close, competitive game.   I was at last year's AU game in Greensboro and Guilford was capable of winning that game, even though they were still working out the kinks with the offense and new coaches.  The Quakers have come a long way since then.  I'll be the first person to admit that Averett's had the tougher schedule so far, but Ferrum and Methodist are good teams.  In DIII, however, it just doesn't get much harder than Mount Union and Wesley back-to-back, but I don't think that means the Cougars will smoke Guilford.  I think it'll be a good game with either team capable of winning.  Go Quakers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 14, 2006, 10:26:42 PM
papi - i was going to wear the chaps to watch the bikini bull riding tonight, but thought better of it (the chaps and the bikini bull riding...nothing good can come from either when you're my age :))

predictions for the week

cnu 24 - ssu 22: the captains got some swagger back last week, and they go in to salisbury ready to roll

gcq 38 - au 34: averett falls to 0-3 and the quackers go 3-0 in the usasac

ncwc 27 - ehc 24: wasps get stung by the bishops

waynesburg 24 - su 10: i won't be picking su to win a game this year...sorry guys

b'water 48 - ferrum 8: the water has too much speed for the panthers

m'ville 21 - gc 20:  tough game to call, but i think the scots will pull out a close one

mc 24 - chowan 21: not sure what to expect from chowan with another class of scholarship players, but the monarchs have been working out the kinks from last week and will capitalize in the red-zone
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on September 15, 2006, 08:32:24 AM
ABRNGR, From what i hear Rocket is now coaching at terry sanford high school in fayetteville. He is also teaching an englsh 3 honors class, which is funny, i never thought about him being a teacher. Most of us who graduated from last years team are working now and doing pretty well for ourselves. I love coaching, and teaching with a passion.

The QB situation in MC will be handled. Bartee did not look bad against guilford, he made some very good decisions, and can move i might add. He threw the ball ok, just needs to be patient and let it develop. He had never started in a game, so that was a big issue here, now he has gotten that off his back, and i feel he will be a standout this year if he stays healthy.

I will pick MC over Chowan 28-17
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 15, 2006, 01:05:05 PM
I hope CNU wins it will be a another good win for the conference.  Has anyone ever seen any of Salisbury's teams games.  That campus hypes up those teams more then any school.   Even more so the Football team and Lacrosse team.  They shut down streets and the teams walk down to the field. I hope CNU doesn't get too distracted.  Salisbury in my book is one of the top D3 sport schools in the mid-altantic region.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 15, 2006, 01:20:08 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on September 13, 2006, 11:35:51 PM
I agree with Pride Greensboro will walk away with the win. And Goose you need to do some research before you make your pick. I say GC by 10.

I dont need research. I can make a guess based on nothing, its just one man's opinion. If they win, they win, if they lose, they lose. Its a gut feeling, dont need research for that. Ill admit it when im wrong.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hug on September 15, 2006, 02:01:52 PM
Ferrum 31 BC 17
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on September 15, 2006, 02:17:12 PM
Quote from: Hug on September 15, 2006, 02:01:52 PM
Ferrum 31 BC 17

That sounds about right.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on September 15, 2006, 02:48:09 PM
Ferrum will have at LEAST 500 yards rushing against that weak BC D.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 15, 2006, 03:47:21 PM
Ncol- Thanks. I hope you guys are well. Kids need you younger types. :)

Wrighthall-500 yards!!? I think BC handles 31-17 vice your call. GC-Q romped the Panthers....what do you think an established BC offense will do?

I guess you know something given the Eagles are your old team................

Matt Barnhart giving the Panthers the nod? The planets are out of synch ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on September 15, 2006, 03:56:28 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 15, 2006, 03:47:21 PM
Ncol- Thanks. I hope you guys are well. Kids need you younger types. :)

Wrighthall-500 yards!!? I think BC handles 31-17 vice your call. GC-Q romped the Panthers....what do you think an established BC offense will do?

I guess you know something given the Eagles are your old team................

Matt Barnhart giving the Panthers the nod? The planets are out of synch ???


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Shoot.. and I thought we had people fooled!  :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Trenches on September 15, 2006, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: Matt Barnhart (kid) on September 15, 2006, 02:17:12 PM
Quote from: Hug on September 15, 2006, 02:01:52 PM
Ferrum 31 BC 17

That sounds about right.

Shoot. if they lose, then my dreams of the 2006 BC-GC Stagg Bowl will crumble.

;) :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 15, 2006, 04:32:32 PM
Hall
touche' damn you :-[
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 12:53:17 PM
I have the audio for the Averett-Guilford game and for the Wabash-Milikin game opened on my computer.

And I already have the live update for DePauw-Hope set up as well.

I love Saturdays!!  ;D ;D

Good luck to the USAC teams this week. Especially CNU, Averett and Ferrum. Wins from you guys can really help our conference rep!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 01:13:50 PM
Wilson punches it into the endzone. Averett takes the early lead 7-0.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 01:27:04 PM
Guilford answers with a TD. Score tied at 7 with about 3 minutes left in the 1st.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 01:50:39 PM
Dang, I stepped away for just a couple of minutes and the score is already 21-20, Averett leading. Guilford just passed for a TD but missed the extra point.

Did somebody say shootout?! Less than 12 minutes till the half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 16, 2006, 02:03:43 PM
I need a Ferrum/Bridgewater score!! Anyone have one!!??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 02:04:38 PM
Averett scores. Guilford scores and converts the 2pt. We're all tied up at 28.

It's not even halftime, and Vogelbach has thrown for four TDs. This guy is a stud.

Does either team have a defense?

Goose, the ODAC board is updating that game. Last I saw, 13-6 with BW leading.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: oceanlake on September 16, 2006, 02:06:52 PM
BC 16 Ferrum 6 - End 1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 16, 2006, 02:09:03 PM
Thanks WC!! I forgot about the ODAC board!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 16, 2006, 02:29:40 PM
Someone in the in-game updates said it was 13-13 BC/Ferrum. What gives.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 02:32:10 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 16, 2006, 02:29:40 PM
Someone in the in-game updates said it was 13-13 BC/Ferrum. What gives.

Good question. I saw that and was wondering, too.

Either way, I'm stoked that it's a tight game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: oceanlake on September 16, 2006, 02:37:43 PM
sorry fellas that was my mistake... trying to listen to two games at once right now.

it IS 13-13 right now with ferrum in the redzone
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: oceanlake on September 16, 2006, 02:39:17 PM
ferrum scored... now BC 13 Ferrum 20
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on September 16, 2006, 02:39:24 PM
20-13.. Ferrum looking good.. BC D looking awful.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 16, 2006, 02:48:03 PM
No worries oceanlake!! Thanks for the updates!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: oceanlake on September 16, 2006, 03:15:14 PM
CNU came back... CNU 17 Salisbury 14 inside 2 min
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on September 16, 2006, 03:17:38 PM
20-20  BC/Ferrum.. BC answers with opening drive of 2nd half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: oceanlake on September 16, 2006, 03:22:40 PM
Salisbury nails a 40 yard FG and forces the game into OT.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on September 16, 2006, 03:30:29 PM
SSU attempts a 44 yd field goal attemp in OT and misses. CNU 1st and 10 on the SSU 25.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on September 16, 2006, 03:32:25 PM
CNU 1st and 10 from the SSU 13 yd line.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on September 16, 2006, 03:34:39 PM
Hilliard SCORES. FINAL  23-17. CNU WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on September 16, 2006, 03:35:57 PM
Roland Hilliard was a monster today with 200+ yds rushing. DAMN!!!!!!! Great win for the Captains!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 16, 2006, 03:37:33 PM
Hilliard finished with 207.

Need an Averett score!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on September 16, 2006, 03:49:31 PM
Ferrum Score?????????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 03:50:06 PM
They're not announcing the Averett score, but it kind of sounds like the Cougars have the win wrapped up!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 03:51:01 PM
54-34 AVERETT WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on September 16, 2006, 03:58:03 PM
Ferrum and BC are tied at 27-27 but Ferrum is driving.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 03:59:41 PM
Quote from: Jeremybozz on September 16, 2006, 03:58:03 PM
Ferrum and BC are tied at 27-27 but Ferrum is driving.

Do you know how much time is left in the game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on September 16, 2006, 04:02:19 PM
Still tied at 27 between BC and Ferrum. BC ball on own 35 with 6:55 left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on September 16, 2006, 04:14:12 PM
BC and Ferrum go to OT. Ferrum with an INT to stop a BC drive.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 04:15:03 PM
This game is killing me! Go Ferrum!!

And thank you for the updates Jeremy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on September 16, 2006, 04:30:52 PM
Ferrum score??? :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 04:30:58 PM
Ferrum loses   :'( :'(

In OT, the Panthers had the ball 1st and goal at the 6 and couldn't punch it in. They chose to go for the win on 4th instead of kick a field goal to tie the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on September 16, 2006, 04:31:12 PM
BC tips it away on 4th and inches on a pass play. BC 30, Ferrum 27 OT.

FINAL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 04:35:00 PM
On another note, it looks like Shenandoah actually put one in the Win column. 20-10 over Wayneburg. Nice job Barnes & Co.!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: enzoneking6 on September 16, 2006, 04:35:24 PM
Ferrum is stupid for going for it on 4th down and deciding to pass the football on the 1 yard line. They should have stuck to running with pitts.But I guess you seperate a player's heart on the one yard line and the BC Eagles showed more.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on September 16, 2006, 04:35:43 PM
Thanks for the update. Sounds like a great game and a tough loss for Ferrum. I am really curious. Is Ferrum that good (even after last week) or is BC not as good as their ranking may indicate? Ya gotta love D3 football. Any given week can be full of surprises. As a CNU fan I hope the BC had an off week  ;D.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: enzoneking6 on September 16, 2006, 04:49:02 PM
Quote from: tcheadhunter on September 16, 2006, 04:35:43 PM
Thanks for the update. Sounds like a great game and a tough loss for Ferrum. I am really curious. Is Ferrum that good (even after last week) or is BC not as good as their ranking may indicate? Ya gotta love D3 football. Any given week can be full of surprises. As a CNU fan I hope the BC had an off week  ;D.



Ferrum is a great running team. But Bridgewater's offense was out of sync this game. But if your not use to ferrum's running game then they can hurt you. I say that ferrum did the right thing by holding on to the ball and keeping BC off the field. And your right anything can happen in D3 football :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on September 16, 2006, 05:52:58 PM
Great game Ferrum!  CNU and the rest of the USAC will be in trouble if they can't contain the run.  Ferrums passing game is no joke either.. there were several times that their receivers were 10+ behind the BC D.   

Keep up the hard work Ferrum!  Good luck the rest of the season.

A few notes..

Passing on 4th and 1.. doesn't make sense.. either kick the field goal and send it to the 2nd OT, pound it in or run outside..

A 41 yard field goal by BC to win the game in OT is something that should not be overlooked.

Almost 500 yards rushing by Ferrum should scare the crap out of the rest of the USAC.. they are GOOD folks.. they have a good shot at repeating.


2 weeks of prep should also not be overlooked.. Ferrum had 2 weeks to look over BC's tapes and prepare.. that may have been a big factor.


Ferrum's D is pretty good.. better than anything BC has faced yet.

BC's offense was off this week.. they started strong but floundered for most of the 2nd qtr. 

An onside kick early in the game allowed Ferrum to gain momentum and to hold on to it for most of the game.. BC tried an onside kick and let Ferrum start a scoring drive from their own 45.



Bottom line.. Ferrum is GOOD.. the USA South should be afraid.. very afraid.   If they put the team they put on the field today on the field every week for the rest of the season Ferrum will repeat.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 16, 2006, 08:03:38 PM
monarchs dominate chowan 31-7 - they went up 17-0 at half, then opened the 2nd half with a 5 play scoring drive, capped off by a nice 26 yard td run by hill - the monarchs drove back down to the chowan 4 on the next posession, but hill fumbled - chowan got on the board on a couple of long jump balls to big receivers, then the monarchs went right back down with another outstanding td run by hill - the monarchs threw the ball a total of 2 times in the second half trying to shorten the game, and matthews touched the ball as many times as hill out of the backfield - no question mc could have put up 50+ points on the braves....err, hawks - they look as bad as they did when they were d3

either chowan is wasting a lot of scholarship dollars or the monarchs have improved tremendously from week 1...i think it's a little of both

good week for the conference, overall - sounds like ferrum should have won the bc game, cnu goes into ssu and gets a win, su pulls out a w and averett wins big...we needed a weekend like this after the first 2
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 16, 2006, 09:30:57 PM
Quote from: wrighthall220 on September 16, 2006, 05:52:58 PMBottom line.. Ferrum is GOOD.. the USA South should be afraid.. very afraid.   If they put the team they put on the field today on the field every week for the rest of the season Ferrum will repeat.

maybe the odac should be afraid of guilford and the usasac should be afraid of averett??? i'm not saying ferrum isn't good, but guilford waxed 'em pretty good, and then got waxed pretty good by averett...anyone who knows me knows i don't play the comparative scores thing, but it's got to get some attention when those teams play within a matter of weeks

this just in...cnu is back

i see a four way race for the usasac title this year...should be fun
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on September 16, 2006, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: wrighthall220 on September 16, 2006, 05:52:58 PM
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Passing on 4th and 1.. doesn't make sense.. either kick the field goal and send it to the 2nd OT, pound it in or run outside..

[...]

Ehhh... I don't know.  Think about it.  Had Ferrum scored on that play, then Ferrum fans (and perhaps even BC's) would be praising the Panther coach for calling a play the BC defense wouldn't/didn't expect.  It just sucks for them that we did expect it and that Desmond Jalloh got a hand on it.

Quote from: wrighthall220 on September 16, 2006, 05:52:58 PM
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2 weeks of prep should also not be overlooked.. Ferrum had 2 weeks to look over BC's tapes and prepare.. that may have been a big factor.

[...]

Excellent point.  Llamaguy reminded me of that on our ride home.  Their scouts were "Bridgewater" for 11 or so days of practice.  They certainly knew where to block and run the ball to be successful, and BOY were they.  Phew!

I do think CNU will have the run defense to hold Ferrum in check better than Guilford or Bridgewater did, and Averett has a the passing attack to put more points on the board than Ferrum.  So even with Ferrum playing BC tough, I'd say the USAC is still 1) CNU, 2) Averett and 3) Ferrum.  This close win for BC doesn't take away from them being a top 10 team ... they just didn't perform like one today.  The offense played well for two five-minute periods today (beginning of the first quarter and the beginning the third quarter) ... other than that, they slept.  I wasn't too impressed with Ferrum's defense - that's why I think it was Bridgewater that sort of put it in nuetral when we got 7+ point leads.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on September 16, 2006, 10:44:10 PM
Quote from: narch on September 16, 2006, 09:30:57 PM
maybe the odac should be afraid of guilford and the usasac should be afraid of averett??? i'm not saying ferrum isn't good, but guilford waxed 'em pretty good, and then got waxed pretty good by averett...anyone who knows me knows i don't play the comparative scores thing, but it's got to get some attention when those teams play within a matter of weeks

this just in...cnu is back

i see a four way race for the usasac title this year...should be fun

Like I said on the ODAC thread, Ferrum's weakness is their secondary.  Guilford took full advantage of it with the type of team they are (pass first).  Bridgewater stuck to their gameplan - run first, run second, pass third.  Got us in trouble on most of the drives.

So I'm not too worried that GC beat FC by more.  GC and BC just had different approaches to beating Ferrum.  They both ended up working.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 16, 2006, 10:52:09 PM
GC 39 MC 33 (1OT)

Roll Pride!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on September 16, 2006, 11:11:56 PM
Hey yall. I said a long time ago that the poll was miss leading but hey it was more modivation for us. This was our first win at home in a long time our last home win was two years ago against the hornets. Great job by the Pride and Great Win.

And as pride said


ROLL PRIDE!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2006, 11:13:49 PM
I couldn't help but notice that in the past two weeks, the USAC has been involved in two big edge-of-your-seat goal line stands with the game on the line. For one I smiled; the other I damn near cried.

Last week, CNU stopped the folks from Texas as they were down at the 1 yard line. Everybody thought the Crusaders would just punch the ball in, but...

This week, Bridgewater repeatedly stops Ferrum's effort to find the endzone, from about 6 inches out. Everybody thought the Panthers would just punch the ball in, but...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2006, 04:13:51 AM
Whoever posted that score on our scoreboard -- whichever school -- make sure you note it was in overtime next time. Thanks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 17, 2006, 04:18:11 AM
WOW!! What a game!!        :o

Greensboro College 39/Maryville College 36 (OT)

I think that means GC is now tied for first place in the conference . . . right?

When Maryville scored and took a 33-26 lead with only 56 seconds left in the game, I thought it really showed The Pride's character to march back down the field and tie the game with 15 second left. Maybe they are finally learning how to win!!

Hopefully this begins a new era for Greensboro College football. Almost 500 yards total offense and a very tough defense - with another victory (So.Va.) or two (Guilford), they might be considered a conference contender. ?

Also, it really sounds like The Pride just about have their QB situation figured out (25-49-1 for 338 yards and 3 TDs/ 17 rushes for 68 yds) and RB Herbin (17 for 72 and 2 TDs) sounds like a beast!

QUESTION: When is the last time The Pride won two straight?




The Pride are on a Roll ! ! !   
 



ROLL PRIDE! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 17, 2006, 09:12:11 AM
Ferrum must have played well. I dont think they have the USASAC sewed up yet, but they seem to be potent offensivly. The two weeks to prepare had to help, and as far as the choice to pass at the end, well, I am not the coach but it seems that the coaches must have liked their chances through the air. I think I would have run, and I think Joe Paterno, Woody Hayes, Bear Bryant, Bo Schembeckler, Frank Beamer, and Hank Norton would have run too. (or kicked)

Any word on the Ferrum pass defense? How many passing yds did BC get ?

USASAC begins this week for the Panthers. I think the fact that they did so well against BCwill not bode well for the Hornets.

Lets go Panthers!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 17, 2006, 09:38:19 AM
mc/chowan game story (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=242284) - check out the video linked in the story...pretty good highlight package - i didn't realize just HOW dominant the monarch defense was in the first half, but they certainly played well as a group...really shut down the running game - hill and bartee had really nice games for the monarchs offensively

box score (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2006%20Stats/mc0916.htm#GAME.NEW)

the bishops are on the clock...tick tock
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2006, 10:15:00 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 17, 2006, 04:18:11 AM


QUESTION: When is the last time The Pride won two straight?




The Pride are on a Roll ! ! !   
 



ROLL PRIDE! ! !  


its been a long time.  I never complain about calls, but yesterday it was really bad.  31 penalties called. I hope no one thinks that GC was lucky on the win.  They had to fight hard, because the referee's made that game closer then it looked. Just look at the box score.  Maryville was dominated.


Good win for CNU.  Great game for FC, tough loss. AU great win too besides the lack of defense.

So here is the question.  Who will win the USAC now? Since conference play is about to start. (What a way to kick it off last night with an OT game)

I said Ferrum at the begining of the year.  Now I am leaning more towards CNU after them going 2-1 in against some tough teams.  (Salisbury in my book is hyped up a bit too much)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on September 17, 2006, 10:42:04 AM
Time to seperate the men from the boys. CNU starts USAC play in 2 weeks (after bye) at Shenadoah. Averett and Ferrum might be for real. It's shapping up to be a really good season. Ya gotta love USAC football!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 17, 2006, 10:54:58 AM

You are right, PrideGuy - I forgot to mention the 196 yards in penalties, not to mention the lost yardage from plays called back and a 20 TD run by Bacon called back on the first series of the game.  It sounds like Maryville brought their refs with them!!  ???  And this game should not have been this close - The Pride could have won it in regulation with different officials. IMHO





ROLL PRIDE! ! !   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 17, 2006, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2006, 10:15:00 AM
So here is the question.  Who will win the USAC now? Since conference play is about to start.

Just this morning, I had created a poll on the USAC pick-em board asking this very question, because as conference play gets under way, I think it's something people will really start thinking about.

As I have since August, I'm still favoring Averett to win the USA South. Though the Cougars showed many holes in their pass defense on Saturday, I don't think they're going to face another team that has that kind of firepower from a quarterback. Most of the USAC teams do better with a run offense, and Averett can certainly stop that. On the opposite side, Averett has a strong and balanced run-pass attack, which I'm not sure any conference team can adequately defend.

But here's the new aspect to my thinking and rooting for Averett to win the conference. Assuming CNU wins the rest of its games except the one against Averett, I think that pretty much guarantees Chrisopher Newport and the USA South a Pool C bid to the playoffs. People have said that we've weakened as a conference this year (the ATN column pointed that out last week and someone on another board referred to us the USUCK). Yes, I realize that we're only about a third into the season so far, but I'm trying to keep an eye on the big picture, and two playoff teams this year would be a pretty sweet deal for us -- and should give our conference profile a much needed boost.
Title: If only...............................
Post by: Eh-You on September 17, 2006, 02:44:59 PM
the Averett defense that came out of the locker room in the 2nd half would be there for 4 quarters - I'm not sure this thing would even be close.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2006, 04:12:23 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on September 17, 2006, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2006, 10:15:00 AM
So here is the question.  Who will win the USAC now? Since conference play is about to start.
As I have since August, I'm still favoring Averett to win the USA South. Though the Cougars showed many holes in their pass defense on Saturday, I don't think they're going to face another team that has that kind of firepower from a quarterback. Most of the USAC teams do better with a run offense, and Averett can certainly stop that. On the opposite side, Averett has a strong and balanced run-pass attack, which I'm not sure any conference team can adequately defend.

But here's the new aspect to my thinking and rooting for Averett to win the conference. Assuming CNU wins the rest of its games except the one against Averett, I think that pretty much guarantees Chrisopher Newport and the USA South a Pool C bid to the playoffs.

Good call on AU.  I think you are right about that situation.  If and only if those two teams CNU beat still end up with good records. AU does have a good balance and agree will be hard to stop.  GC may not have the QB but they have alot of talent on the WR group.  other teams haven't given up as much yards as AU has through the air.  As the weak conference, i don't know massey ratings have "USUCK" conference at #20..with 10 below them, including the ASWC. I ponder what those fans mean about weak conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 17, 2006, 09:06:08 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 17, 2006, 04:18:11 AM
WOW!! What a game!!        :o

Greensboro College 39/Maryville College 36 (OT)

I think that means GC is now tied for first place in the conference . . . right?

When Maryville scored and took a 33-26 lead with only 56 seconds left in the game, I thought it really showed The Pride's character to march back down the field and tie the game with 15 second left. Maybe they are finally learning how to win!!

Hopefully this begins a new era for Greensboro College football. Almost 500 yards total offense and a very tough defense - with another victory (So.Va.) or two (Guilford), they might be considered a conference contender. ?

Also, it really sounds like The Pride just about have their QB situation figured out (25-49-1 for 338 yards and 3 TDs/ 17 rushes for 68 yds) and RB Herbin (17 for 72 and 2 TDs) sounds like a beast!

QUESTION: When is the last time The Pride won two straight?




The Pride are on a Roll ! ! !   
 



ROLL PRIDE! ! !  

Yeah that wont last long!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2006, 10:24:57 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 17, 2006, 09:06:08 PM
Yeah that wont last long!

What kind of comment is that.  I wouldn't be so sure that CNU will finish first.  I do know that GC will not finish in last.  I am not saying at all that GC will finish first, but give them credit for beating someone other then SU in the conference.  Greensboro has two out of conference games the next two weeks.  Root for them there because it will only help CNU get a higher seed en route to the Stagg Bowl.  If they are going to win the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on September 17, 2006, 10:48:54 PM
Just to awnser the question on how long it has been since the Pride have won 2 straight. Looking at the record books it was in 2003 when we went 2-0 at the beginning of the season with wins over Chowan and Apprentice School.

But I can def. see us going 2-1 going into Guilford but we have got to be careful and not have 196 yards in penaltys. That will kill you in the long run
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 18, 2006, 12:31:34 PM
It took me a few days to do this because of computer problems, but a big CONGRATULATIONS to the Hornets for the teams win on Sat. As usual the defense was GREAT!!  Dionte beatty had 4 INT's and really should have had 5. Why they kept throwing over to him I have no idea. One would think after he got his 2nd INT Waynesburg would try another guy to go after. Freshman QB Twaun Rhodes had 2 TD passes. I really like this kid. He is showing signs of a leader and is getting things done the right way.

Anyone from SU that may read this Please, Please, install that new style turf that Waynesburg had. It looks great!

As always GO HORNETS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 18, 2006, 01:13:29 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2006, 10:24:57 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 17, 2006, 09:06:08 PM
Yeah that wont last long!

What kind of comment is that.  I wouldn't be so sure that CNU will finish first.  I do know that GC will not finish in last.  I am not saying at all that GC will finish first, but give them credit for beating someone other then SU in the conference.  Greensboro has two out of conference games the next two weeks.  Root for them there because it will only help CNU get a higher seed en route to the Stagg Bowl.  If they are going to win the conference.

It was all said in fun man, relax. I will say this for certain, you are right, GC WILL NOT FINISH IN FIRST THIS YEAR. Who do you think will finish last?? You think you are gonna finish ahead of Shenandoah?? I guess that meeting between those two juggernauts will decide that fate then huh?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 18, 2006, 01:30:25 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 18, 2006, 01:13:29 PM
It was all said in fun man, relax. I will say this for certain, you are right, GC WILL NOT FINISH IN FIRST THIS YEAR. Who do you think will finish last?? You think you are gonna finish ahead of Shenandoah?? I guess that meeting between those two juggernauts will decide that fate then huh?

he could be thinking that they'll finish ahead of m'ville, given they just beat the scots

anyone have news on what's happening in tn?  i thought the scots returned 22 starters...i didn't expect them to have 2 losses at this point in the season
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hug on September 18, 2006, 01:44:24 PM
The USUCK will be the USUCK as long as I am around. Mainly because I am an ODIC fan  ;D.  Think of it as a term of endearment.
Seriously, the USUCK and the ODIC are pretty even top to bottom.  Of course, I'd have to put  the SCAnC at the top of the South region right now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 18, 2006, 02:04:35 PM
let's play a little "fun with numbers", shall we?

chowan played div 1aa western carolina in week 1, and here are some comparison's:

score wcu 42- chowan 0, score mc 31 - chowan 7

the monarchs and catamounts were within a few yards of each other in total offense (381 to 375), and the monarch defense held chowan to about 100 yards less in the first half than wcu did in the first half (by the 2nd half the monarchs were substituting liberally, and chowan got about 1/3 of their total yardage on 2 broken plays) - the monarchs played 52 guys on saturday, wcu played 61 in week 1...does this all mean that the monarchs would be competetive with wcu???

through 2 games, mike hill has 250 yards, 4 td's (but also has 2 fumbles...gotta squeeze that rock) and sports a 6.1 ypc average...not bad, but not nearly what pitts is doing for ferrum...412 yards, 3 td's and a 9.4 ypc average...wow

while he hasn't put up passing numbers like roncketti did last year, bartee has played well for the monarchs, completing 18 of 26 passes for 203 yards - no td's and 3 int's doesn't look so good, but you've got to love a 69% completion rate (oh yeah, he's rushed for 123 yards in those 2 games, too)...solid start for a kid who never threw a collegiate pass before this season - rocket's numbers didn't look that good after 2 games (of course, he wasn't surrounded by as much talent as bartee is) - i think that as bartee becomes more comfortable in the role, and as the coaches feed him more of the offense, the monarchs will continue to improve offensively

the monarch run defense looks strong, holding opponents to under 48 yards per game....or is it that guilford and chowan don't run well? - to my eye, it looks like the monarchs are better against the run...the additional speed of shuford and gauntlett, who are both sure tacklers, seems to be paying dividends...we'll find out, but i suspect it's a little improvement and a little that chowan and guilford can't run the ball

did i mention that the bishops were on the clock?  tick, tock - take care of business, monarchs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 18, 2006, 03:22:18 PM
Here are two articles in todays Winchester Star about the hornets win on Saturday and also a nice article about how the football program has impacted SU the last 6 years after adding the sport in 2000

GO HORNETS!!
http://www.winchesterstar.com/TheWinchesterStar/060918/Sports_hornets.asp

http://www.winchesterstar.com/TheWinchesterStar/060918/Area_culture.asp
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 18, 2006, 04:35:17 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 18, 2006, 01:13:29 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2006, 10:24:57 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 17, 2006, 09:06:08 PM
Yeah that wont last long!

What kind of comment is that.  I wouldn't be so sure that CNU will finish first.  I do know that GC will not finish in last.  I am not saying at all that GC will finish first, but give them credit for beating someone other then SU in the conference.  Greensboro has two out of conference games the next two weeks.  Root for them there because it will only help CNU get a higher seed en route to the Stagg Bowl.  If they are going to win the conference.

It was all said in fun man, relax. I will say this for certain, you are right, GC WILL NOT FINISH IN FIRST THIS YEAR. Who do you think will finish last?? You think you are gonna finish ahead of Shenandoah?? I guess that meeting between those two juggernauts will decide that fate then huh?

Considering SU is 1-5 against GC and we just beat MC, and i think we will take NCWC.  That puts us at 5th in the conference. I think GC will beat one of the top 3 teams too.  I am leaning towards Methodist.  Although GC did lose to AU by one last year.  You all think about it.  5th place is what I will expect this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: EHCPride on September 18, 2006, 08:11:35 PM
Does anyone know the status of the NCWC player who got his finger caught in a facemask and ripped off during the E&H game Saturday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on September 18, 2006, 09:08:59 PM
It was all said in fun man, relax. I will say this for certain, you are right, GC WILL NOT FINISH IN FIRST THIS YEAR. Who do you think will finish last?? You think you are gonna finish ahead of Shenandoah?? I guess that meeting between those two juggernauts will decide that fate then huh?
[/quote]

Yo Goose, I hate to bust your bubble over there in SU territory but I do belive that SU WILL be in last when the end of the season comes around. I agree with Pride that I can see us in fifth but the Hornets will get Sprayed by ALL of the USA South and die at the bottom of the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 19, 2006, 08:09:06 AM
Quote from: narch on September 18, 2006, 01:30:25 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 18, 2006, 01:13:29 PM

he could be thinking that they'll finish ahead of m'ville, given they just beat the scots

anyone have news on what's happening in tn?  i thought the scots returned 22 starters...i didn't expect them to have 2 losses at this point in the season

Maryville will beat some teams in this conference. They are not a bad team, I just think GC is better than expected. The Scot's QB is very fast and has a great arm. GC just outscored them.

I don't think Maryville will finish last or next to last, and GC may do better than fifth . . .  I guess we will see.

Right now The Pride has to get by Southern Virginia University. 

Anyone know anything about them?  Strengths? - Weaknesses? - How good are they? etc.



BTW - Anyone else see this?

Nathan Wooten, Greensboro College - The freshman defensive lineman from Mt. Holly, North Carolina helped The Pride hold Maryville to 246 total yards in a 39-36 overtime victory over for the Pride over the Fighting Scots. Wooten collected three solo takes and assisted on four others. He also had two sacks for a loss of 16 yards.

Way to go Nathan!! Another Pride Rookie getting attention!!



ROLL  PRIDE
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 19, 2006, 10:50:53 AM
Quote from: EHCPride on September 18, 2006, 08:11:35 PM
Does anyone know the status of the NCWC player who got his finger caught in a facemask and ripped off during the E&H game Saturday?

ouch...that sounds REALLY nasty
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 19, 2006, 11:06:17 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on September 18, 2006, 09:08:59 PM
It was all said in fun man, relax. I will say this for certain, you are right, GC WILL NOT FINISH IN FIRST THIS YEAR. Who do you think will finish last?? You think you are gonna finish ahead of Shenandoah?? I guess that meeting between those two juggernauts will decide that fate then huh?

Yo Goose, I hate to bust your bubble over there in SU territory but I do belive that SU WILL be in last when the end of the season comes around. I agree with Pride that I can see us in fifth but the Hornets will get Sprayed by ALL of the USA South and die at the bottom of the conference.
[/quote]

Wow, I had NO IDEA i was in Shenandoah territory down here in Newport News. Last I checked, I was CNU fan. But I may be suffering from some sort of temporary amnesia. CNU85, anychance you can help me out with this?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bishopfan on September 19, 2006, 12:06:21 PM
Quote from: EHCPride on September 18, 2006, 08:11:35 PM
Does anyone know the status of the NCWC player who got his finger caught in a facemask and ripped off during the E&H game Saturday?

Last I heard they had sewed it back on and set it on Saturday and  thought with a couple more operations and some time to heal he would save the finger.  (It apparently was only hanging on by some skin on Saturday.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 19, 2006, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: bishopfan on September 19, 2006, 12:06:21 PM
Quote from: EHCPride on September 18, 2006, 08:11:35 PM
Does anyone know the status of the NCWC player who got his finger caught in a facemask and ripped off during the E&H game Saturday?

Last I heard they had sewed it back on and set it on Saturday and  thought with a couple more operations and some time to heal he would save the finger.  (It apparently was only hanging on by some skin on Saturday.)

Wow.  I'm sure that was (and still is) a painful and traumatic event.  I wish him the best!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 19, 2006, 08:35:42 PM
Quote from: bishopfan on September 19, 2006, 12:06:21 PM
Last I heard they had sewed it back on and set it on Saturday and  thought with a couple more operations and some time to heal he would save the finger.  (It apparently was only hanging on by some skin on Saturday.)

wow...never heard of anything like that happening, although i did get my finger caught in my catchers mask once (try catching a pop-up with a mitt on one hand while trying to shake the mask off with the other) - my pop-up trauma didn't come close to comparing to what that young man has been dealing with the last few days...hope everything turns out well for him
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 19, 2006, 09:31:51 PM
Quote from: narch on September 19, 2006, 08:35:42 PM
Quote from: bishopfan on September 19, 2006, 12:06:21 PM
Last I heard they had sewed it back on and set it on Saturday and  thought with a couple more operations and some time to heal he would save the finger.  (It apparently was only hanging on by some skin on Saturday.)

wow...never heard of anything like that happening, although i did get my finger caught in my catchers mitt once (try catching a pop-up with a mitt on one hand while trying to shake the mask off with the other) - my pop-up trauma didn't come close to comparing to what that young man has been dealing with the last few days...hope everything turns out well for him

Wow..hope he is doing fine.  I never heard of that either.  In high school my sophmore year of football our starting center in the middle of lineman drills had is arm sliced on the metal of the chin strap right where it buttons up.  I think 13 stiches. But nothing at that level.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 19, 2006, 11:17:34 PM
I was coaching 11-13 year-olds (jr midgets) in a city championship game and my starting center/linebacker tackled a runner at the yard marker and went out-of-bounds. It was night and raining and the person holding the chains was inexperienced and held onto the post. The kid took 18 or 19 stitches to his hand when he sliced it on the chains. Showed me the importance of having someone who knows what they're doing when they do chains. The guy should have dropped the chains, but he held on and caused the injury. The kid went to the hospital and we missed him in the rain at center, but we did hold on to win.

The kid turned out to be ok, played for me for three years in basketball & football, 3 year varsity starter and then intercepted my son twice in a HS game when he was a senior and my son was a sophmore QB.  I asked him if that was payback   ;D  He was a good kid . . .

On the finger incident - just curious - was there a facemask call on the play?  ???

Hope everything works out ok for him - but he will sure have a story to tell his grandkids!  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 20, 2006, 02:36:07 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 19, 2006, 11:06:17 AM

CNU85, anychance you can help me out with this?


nah...you're doing a fine job of being a butthead without my help!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 20, 2006, 02:46:31 PM
it's slow, so i thought i'd post a couple of old articles that i didn't post earlier...enjoy

bartee is one tough customer (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=242124)

monarch's 1-2 punch (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=241398)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 20, 2006, 05:34:20 PM
Quote from: narch on September 20, 2006, 02:46:31 PM
it's slow, so i thought i'd post a couple of old articles that i didn't post earlier...enjoy

bartee is one tough customer (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=242124)

monarch's 1-2 punch (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=241398)

Those were interesting articles, narch, especially the one about Bartee. Before reading that, I felt somewhat in the dark about the Monarch's new QB. The story was a good take on his character.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 20, 2006, 08:36:47 PM
No credit by the coaches just to add another point about GC not finishing last, as the coaches seem to see preseason.  They already got the one conference win that historically keeps them out of last place  ;D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 20, 2006, 08:55:33 PM
I thought about this after looking at the South Region Fan Poll.  Here is how I see the conference finishing up this year at this point and please do keep it in mind, so you all can bring it back out on me later ;D

1 CNU
2 Ferrum
3 Averett
4 Greensboro
5 Methodist
6 NCWC
7 SU
8 Marryville

I thought about doing power rankings each week too.  Just to add some volume to this board.  I don't know though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 20, 2006, 09:12:11 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 20, 2006, 08:55:33 PM
I thought about this after looking at the South Region Fan Poll.  Here is how I see the conference finishing up this year at this point and please do keep it in mind, so you all can bring it back out on me later ;D

1 CNU
2 Ferrum
3 Averett
4 Greensboro
5 Methodist
6 NCWC
7 SU
8 Marryville

I thought about doing power rankings each week too.  Just to add some volume to this board.  I don't know though.

crack kills...get off of it now, before it's too late...and the 'shrooms that you've been eating lately weren't meant to be eaten, either
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 20, 2006, 11:11:43 PM


crack kills...get off of it now, before it's too late...and the 'shrooms that you've been eating lately weren't meant to be eaten, either
[/quote]

He must of have been hanging out on Willie Nelson's bus!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 20, 2006, 11:14:39 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on September 20, 2006, 11:11:43 PM
He must of have been hanging out on Willie Nelson's bus!

when i heard the news that they found drugs on willie nelson's tour bus, i was shocked...i mean, who would have thought that willie nelson of all people might have drugs on the bus - i heard they also found cowboy boots, a cowboy hat, a bandana, and various instruments...shocking :)

bishops...you're on the clock...tick-tock
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:47:03 AM
"narc"h-
it really isn't that far fetch.  You may think it is because of where Methodist is located.  Top 3 are solid.  4 wins in the conference got greensboro tied for 3rd in 2002 and 3 wins had them tied for 3rd in 2001 (Grant it, it was the DIAC then) I can't see how anyone couldn't think that is reasonable enough. They have a QB this year actually two QB's this year.  One a highly touted player out of HS a few years ago.  Another a MEAC transfer.  (Plus what I think the most talented WR corps in the conference) Our OL shut down d3football AA DE Colby Townsend to 4 tackles 0 sacks.  That game was only close because of penalties.  No doubt in my mind 3-5 wins in the conference.  Puts them right where i said.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 21, 2006, 01:31:25 AM
PrideGuy

You think SU will finish ahead of Maryville?  I thought Maryville was pretty tough and had a very good WR and a pretty good QB.  I think their problems were caused more by the improved GC defense (like freshmen Wooten &  Dula) as much as anything else. One of the Scots TDs was by INT and another set up by mishandled punt snap. Of course, we will know more after a couple more games.  :-\

But I think they will finish ahead of SU and probably NCWC. And by the time they play Ferrum(10/28), Averett(10/21) and CNU(10/7), The Pride just might give them a real run for their money. The offense will definately get better as the new QBs improve their timing with the WRs and the defense really stepped up against Maryville. JMO  8)



ROLL PRIDE ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 21, 2006, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:47:03 AM
"narc"h-
it really isn't that far fetch.

All-Time Series Records
OpponentW L
Greensboro8 1

my prediction...after this year it will read 9-1, monarchs...you'll have to wait a few weeks to take the loss, though...the bishops are up next :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 21, 2006, 09:34:15 AM


2006 record for Greensboro College:

Opponent          W  L 
Monarchs           0  0 

The only record that counts in this matchup until after November 4th -  ;D

The Monarchs have NEVER played this Pride team!!



ROLL PRIDE ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:07:27 PM
Narch you can't use records to compare teams.  D3Newbie got to it before I did. 2006 0-0.  Records can't be used.  Greensboro Men's Basketball Team is 27-27 against UNCG-Mens.  Using your philosphy we should be able to beat them every other team.  Its a new year. Times change
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 21, 2006, 12:43:47 PM
While I agree that records can't be used to decide who is the better team this year, I have heard numerous times on this board how GC has SU's number and how SU has had CNU's number.  At 8-1 I would have to say that MC has GC's number.  I think there is a mental thing involved when a team routinely beats another.  My high school used to play Havelock High School (a team ABNRGR coached) every year from '65-'01 and we beat them twice in those 36 or so years.  There were definitely years we were more talented but never came out on top.
It seems to me that in games like this the team that has dominated the past series always seems to get some strange break in the game that makes the biggest difference.  For instance the '99 game between GC and MC.  The game was tied with roughly 30 seconds left when I overthrew my underneath reciever, it just so happened the deep reciever had run the wrong route and was there to catch the pass and take it down to around the 10 where we kick a field goal to win it as time expired.  Its just one of those football god conspiracies.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 21, 2006, 01:02:26 PM
The way things are shaping up, looks like the conference race should be a good one this year. Ferrum's offense seems to be as effective as ever, Averett is showing signs of the next level in their program and CNU is back. However, Ferrum's offense is too one dimensional, and against a fast defense like CNU they will be shut down. On the other side, Averett seems to have their offense clicking with a more balanced attack. Also, not to be overlooked is Methodist. While I dont think they will win the conference, I do think they will be tough competition and spoil someone's season. As conference play gets started in the coming weeks I am excited to see just how good Averett's offense is and if CNU's defense can dominate the USA south.

Captains start Conference play against SU sept 30th.

CNU!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on September 21, 2006, 02:50:47 PM
Quote from: narch on September 21, 2006, 09:01:11 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:47:03 AM
"narc"h-
it really isn't that far fetch.

All-Time Series Records
OpponentW L
Greensboro8 1

my prediction...after this year it will read 9-1, monarchs...you'll have to wait a few weeks to take the loss, though...the bishops are up next :)


Hey Narch...you need take a look at your passing rating. With your starter and your back up you are well below our two so that is a little thing for you and also we are #23 in the nation in passing eff. and where are the Monarchs nowhere in sight.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 21, 2006, 03:27:35 PM
Now this board is getting going...it's about time.  You know I sat here and looked at the stats for both GC and MC and figured out which one had a statistical advantage and about half way through it I realize that we don't play one another for over a month and just quit.  But at this point it looks like MC rushes for a lot and gives up crazy passing yards and GC throws for a bunch but gives up huge chunks of rushing yardage so the game could be a barn burner.  It'll definitely be one I try to get to. 
With all that said,  Narch how do you think we are gonna match up with the bishops.  I've never even seen NCWC so I have no clue.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 21, 2006, 10:16:22 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 21, 2006, 09:34:15 AM


2006 record for Greensboro College:

Opponent          W  L 
Monarchs           0  0 

The only record that counts in this matchup until after November 4th -  ;D

The Monarchs have NEVER played this Pride team!!



ROLL PRIDE ! ! !  

sorry...i didn't realize the pride had played THIS monarch team...i missed that on the schedule...who won?

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:07:27 PM
Narch you can't use records to compare teams.  D3Newbie got to it before I did. 2006 0-0.  Records can't be used. 

how else do you compare teams???...oh, i see from your next post...passer rating - yeah, i noticed that d3football.com had started to use each team's passer rating  to determine the top 25 and the bcs, massey and sagarin ratings have all followed suite :) - tell me how to compute passer rating and i'll let you use that as a point of reference for qb comparison's, but it hardly tells me anything about the TEAM in my book

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:07:27 PMGreensboro Men's Basketball Team is 27-27 against UNCG-Mens.

apples and oranges, my friend...uncg played most of those games vs. gc as a d3 that was just converting from a women's college

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:07:27 PMUsing your philosphy we should be able to beat them every other team.  Its a new year. Times change

the more things change, the more they stay the same

and lastly, here are a couple of interesting stats for you...note the per play averages, because i've always thought that was a telling stat:

TOTAL OFFENSE       G  Rush Pass Plays Yards Avg/P TD Yds/G
4. Methodist...........  2   476  203   110   679   6.2  5 339.5
5. Greensboro..........2   145  526   149   671   4.5  7 335.5

TOTAL DEFENSE        G  Rush Pass Plys Yards  Avg  TD Yds/G
5. Methodist...........  2    95  620  146   715  4.9   4 357.5
7. Greensboro..........2   632  190  139   822  5.9   9 411.0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 21, 2006, 10:28:19 PM
papi - as you look at those passing numbers, keep in mind that the monarchs have faced guilford, who will pass against everyone they play this season and chowan, which ran the ball about 10 times in the 2nd half because they were down 24 points...i suspect the monarch pass defense will get better as the season progresses

enough about the lady lions, though - the monarchs have the bishops to deal with

here is what i know - the bishops have played mc tough both times they've played, with mc winning 21-20 in 2004 (the bishop's first year as a team) and winning 31-20 last year - that game was close through 3 1/2 quarters before hill broke a huge td run late - they have really matched up well with the monarchs

in 2006,  ncwc seems to be chunking the ball around a lot, especially compared to past seasons - they average 250+ per game through the air and almost 160 per game on the ground - they had a very talented rb the last 2 years in javon williams - he rushed for over 1700 yards and 23 td's in just 16 games - he doesn't seem to be on their roster, though, which is a good thing for monarch fans - they've got a d-lineman who was the defensive roty last year and they've got a talented qb, some solid wr's and a solid secondary...should be a good game, but one i see the monarchs winning - let's say 24 - 13, monarchs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 11:25:57 PM

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:07:27 PM
Narch you can't use records to compare teams.  D3Newbie got to it before I did. 2006 0-0.  Records can't be used. 

how else do you compare teams???...oh, i see from your next post...passer rating - yeah, i noticed that d3football.com had started to use each team's passer rating  to determine the top 25 and the bcs, massey and sagarin ratings have all followed suite :) - tell me how to compute passer rating and i'll let you use that as a point of reference for qb comparison's, but it hardly tells me anything about the TEAM in my book

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:07:27 PMGreensboro Men's Basketball Team is 27-27 against UNCG-Mens.

apples and oranges, my friend...uncg played most of those games vs. gc as a d3 that was just converting from a women's college

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 12:07:27 PMUsing your philosphy we should be able to beat them every other team.  Its a new year. Times change

the more things change, the more they stay the same

and lastly, here are a couple of interesting stats for you...note the per play averages, because i've always thought that was a telling stat:

TOTAL OFFENSE       G  Rush Pass Plays Yards Avg/P TD Yds/G
4. Methodist...........  2   476  203   110   679   6.2  5 339.5
5. Greensboro..........2   145  526   149   671   4.5  7 335.5

TOTAL DEFENSE        G  Rush Pass Plys Yards  Avg  TD Yds/G
5. Methodist...........  2    95  620  146   715  4.9   4 357.5
7. Greensboro..........2   632  190  139   822  5.9   9 411.0
[/quote]

Narch- I never once said Passer Rating.  I believe that was GCGullett.  That I agree with you on.  The point i was making about the two basketball teams was to show how it makes no sense to compare the records.  The best way to determine who is better is on game day, Or look at film and break down the teams, and who each team has played could give an indication.

GC played D-2 Mars Hill (from 01-05 avg 2029.6 ryd a game, sound like they run the ball alot) and and Maryville (who I might add was predicted to finish ahead of GC.)

Methodist- d3/d2 Chowan (they aren't d2 as far as I am concerned) and Guilford (who I might add just lost (by alot) to Averett.  If that is any indication of the game eventually between AU and Methodist then Methodist isn't deserving of 3rd in conference IMO)

From the statistical standpoint, well there is no standpoint.  Eliminate the rushing yards from Mars Hill and passing from Guilford then look at the stats (This I will eliminate those games)

GC   88   338   88   4.840909091   426
MC   263   92   52   6.826923077   355

GC   123   146   66   4.075757576   269
MC   55   217   65   4.184615385   272

MC has the better offense, while GC has the better overall defense.  (Defense trumps a good offense just ask the 2000 Baltimore Ravens). (I know that GC's defense is not a Raven's defense, but when GC was winning games it was because of the defense)  It will be a close game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 22, 2006, 04:07:36 AM
I agree with you that it will be a close game...as it nearly always is between MC and GC but as I said before...I believe the football gods will look down on the Monarchs to give them some sort of advantage. 
No offense, however, but GC is no longer one of our stepping stones in my opinion.  Teams like CNU, Averett, and Ferrum are teams we expect to be at or near the top so we compare ourselves to them. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 22, 2006, 08:26:13 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 11:25:57 PM
Narch- I never once said Passer Rating.  I believe that was GCGullett.  That I agree with you on.
sorry to have confused you and gullet

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2006, 11:25:57 PM
The point i was making about the two basketball teams was to show how it makes no sense to compare the records.  The best way to determine who is better is on game day, Or look at film and break down the teams, and who each team has played could give an indication.

i agree that nov. 4 will be the ultimate comparison, but your point holds no water - uncg was at one point a d3 institution and is now a d1...historical records as a d3 institution have no bearing on that series because they are much different now - mc and gc have both been d3 their entire football history...those records have historical significance - if you don't think that history has anything to do with the present...well, you're just wrong :)

and while i understand your insistance upon throwing out the chowan and mhc games ('cause it makes the gc stats look better), fact is, they are 1/2 of the body of work we have - at this stage we have no idea how good mhc is - they've beaten a d3 (greensboro), a first year program (brevard) and lost to the defending d1aa national champs...i think the monarchs would be 2-1 against their schedule, as well, so who knows how good they are - you may not consider chowan d2, but they do give athletic scholarships - i suspect chowan is not as good as mhc, but i don't know that - chowan has lost to mc, union (naia) and wcu (d1aa) - i also suspect that guilford is probably equally better than m'ville, but i could be wrong...2-3 games into the season, it's difficult - i wouldn't necessarily disregard those 2 games as being statistically irrelevant (unless, of course, i wanted to slant the statistics to favor my stance :))

we'll get to the lady lions soon enough...the bishops are my concern right now
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 22, 2006, 10:33:24 AM
Narch-You will like this...
MC WILL BEAT NCWC THIS SATURDAY.

This you may not like.

A CLOSE GAME.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 22, 2006, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: narch on September 20, 2006, 09:12:11 PM
crack kills...get off of it now, before it's too late...and the 'shrooms that you've been eating lately weren't meant to be eaten, either

Do you really think this was necessary? Where's Pat when you need him?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 22, 2006, 12:14:40 PM
I'd ding your Karma but I lost all my rights and had to start over when I quit the board awhile back
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 22, 2006, 01:53:40 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 22, 2006, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: narch on September 20, 2006, 09:12:11 PM
crack kills...get off of it now, before it's too late...and the 'shrooms that you've been eating lately weren't meant to be eaten, either

Do you really think this was necessary? Where's Pat when you need him?

absolutely...someone had to point out the lunacy of picking the pride ahead of the monarchs - if just one pride fan put the crack pipe down or got off  the 'shrooms after reading my post, i've saved a life - are you telling me you're not for saving the lives of your fellow football fans, '85? - if so, i'll have to take away the karma point i just gave you :)

all drug references are made in jest...i don't really think that pridesportbballguy or gcgullet or d3newbie or any other usasac poster is on drugs, even when they make crazy, seemingly drug induced statements

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 22, 2006, 10:33:24 AM
Narch-You will like this...
MC WILL BEAT NCWC THIS SATURDAY.

This you may not like.

A CLOSE GAME.

close wins count in the w column of the standings...margin of victory makes no difference to me
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 22, 2006, 02:03:59 PM
my perdictions (that's for you, '85)

fc 42 - su 13: pitts is too much for hornets

m'ville 17 - sewanee 14: got a feeling that the scots might turn things around a bit this week

gc 45 - sova 19: pride have little trouble piercing the knight defense and avenging an embarrasing loss in 2005

mc 24 - ncwc 13: bishops hang tough, but monarchs pull out a victory
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 22, 2006, 03:13:12 PM
Quote from: narch on September 20, 2006, 09:12:11 PM
crack kills...get off of it now, before it's too late...and the 'shrooms that you've been eating lately weren't meant to be eaten, either

Narch, obviously someone has stolen your username and password. Drop me an e-mail and we can get it restored.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 22, 2006, 10:18:52 PM
pat - message heard loud and clear...i'll refrain from the crack references

here's an article from the fayetteville observer re: mc's recent run of "state championships" (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=242675)...make sure you read coach sy's last comment...gotta love that guy

go monarchs...beat the bishops!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 22, 2006, 10:58:41 PM
Pat- I was not offened by Narch's remarks.  I needed a could laugh and a reason to call Narch---Narc.

Narch-
Well I can't let you be the only one to predict the scores now can I. (if this is your protocol, I will make it my last week.  I don't want to step on your toes too much  :D)  How on target are you usually? I am curious to know. I think your scores look good)  Anyway my scores.

FC 49 - SU 10

sewanee 21- maryville 13

gc 35- sova 20

mc 28- NCWC 20.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 23, 2006, 07:31:15 AM
pridesport - it's not like i invented predicting games, so you're certainly not stepping on my toes

here are my predictions for weeks 2 & 3 (i missed week one games, but i would have been correct on all of them :))

Quote from: narch on September 14, 2006, 10:26:42 PM
predictions for the week

cnu 24 - ssu 22: the captains got some swagger back last week, and they go in to salisbury ready to roll

gcq 38 - au 34: averett falls to 0-3 and the quackers go 3-0 in the usasac

ncwc 27 - ehc 24: wasps get stung by the bishops

waynesburg 24 - su 10: i won't be picking su to win a game this year...sorry guys

b'water 48 - ferrum 8: the water has too much speed for the panthers

m'ville 21 - gc 20:  tough game to call, but i think the scots will pull out a close one

mc 24 - chowan 21: not sure what to expect from chowan with another class of scholarship players, but the monarchs have been working out the kinks from last week and will capitalize in the red-zone

Quote from: narch on September 09, 2006, 09:47:54 AM
here's how i see things shaping up this week (feel free to count these in my pick 'ems, legacy :))

wesley 45 - au 17: cougars don't have enough for wolverines, but hey, they aren't muc :)

bridgewater 56 - su 17: hornets score on eagles 4th string

umhb 27 - cnu 17: captains play tougher than week one, but fall to 0-2

ncwc 24 - sova 20: bishops slip by

m'ville 20 - centre 17: scots go to 2-0

mc 45 - gcq 38: monarchs slow vogelbach (to a point), but the quackers have no answer for mike hill and monarch running game...hill will get 200+
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 23, 2006, 11:46:25 AM
Narch- not bad.  But lets see how close those scores were.  now you have some competition to get those scores right on  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 23, 2006, 02:16:28 PM
MC 6 NCWC 7 Half
Ferrum 14 SU 0 Half
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 23, 2006, 03:00:26 PM
Ferrum28-SU 0

12:00 + left in the game. Pitts scores on a 3 yd. run.

SU has 1 pass completion
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 23, 2006, 03:10:11 PM
Ferrum 35 SU 0

Second string offense scores!

Terrell (Second String QB scores his second TD of the season)

@8mins. left.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 23, 2006, 03:19:29 PM
Ferrum has the ball w/ 5 min. left, on the SU 15 after a personal foul on SU.
Penalty on FC on the next play puts it on the SU 23.

Ferrum scores from there on a run by Cedrick Reeves. FC 42  SU 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 23, 2006, 03:26:19 PM
Looks like a possible upset in the making. 2:04 left NCWC 15 MC 9
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 23, 2006, 03:26:55 PM
Ferrum 42

Shenandoah 0

Final Score!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 23, 2006, 03:35:55 PM
NCWC 15 MC 9

FINAL.

Upset? or Not.
Title: Here's the deal
Post by: Eh-You on September 23, 2006, 05:21:03 PM
AU vs. Ferrum sets up the title game. Winner vs. CNU for the championship. Everybody else is playing for fourth. It would have been that way w/o the Rocket's last second heriocs last year - I wondered how they would win without him. Listening to the Methodist fans on here it sounded like they were going to be OK. After the looks of things today - I think not! Anyway - Averett has too much offense for Ferrum - win a shootout and set up the game of the year at CNU on Nov. 4. Any help along the way from an upset team would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on September 23, 2006, 06:35:51 PM
Narch, since you brought up the Massey ratings, note that Greensboro is 134, well ahead of your Fayetteville-based boys.

Also, Chowan is the LAST rated DII team at 135. Mars Hill (probably a .500 team or so in DII team) is now ranked 40 spots higher in the Masseys than CU. If they played the spread would probably be at least 30 points. And let's face it, Guilford isn't known for their defense, too.

Lastly, why can you not just make your point (skewed to favor MC, of course) and be done with it. Instead, you resort to accusing folks of being on drugs and make immature comments (Lady Lions?). Who is the adult here?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 23, 2006, 07:14:12 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on September 23, 2006, 06:35:51 PM
Lastly, why can you not just make your point (skewed to favor MC, of course) and be done with it. Instead, you resort to accusing folks of being on drugs and make immature comments (Lady Lions?). Who is the adult here?

You just haven't been around long enough to understand Narch's "unique" sense of humor.  My guess is he was trying to get a rise out of you and make this board a little mean interesting.

With that said, what happened to the boys today Narch.  I haven't seen a boxscore so I can even make an opinion on what happened today.  Looks like we need to get the offense going.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 23, 2006, 07:56:38 PM
gullett - no need to whine...it was all meant in good fun, and pat c has already reprimanded me after someone went crying to him - in retrospect i should have said that pridesportbballguy should go back to the looney bin he escaped from and stayed away from the drug references - i could care less what massey says until he starts watching d3 games on a regular basis...the monarchs WILL finish above the pride this year (in my humble opinion, of course)

p.s. - the lady lions reference is to the pride, which is generally made up primarily of female lions serving the alpha male...or, some might say, monarch - look it up, you'll see i'm right

as for what happened today...the ncwc defense appears to have come to play - the monarchs turned the ball over 3 times and were limited to 182 net yards (just 78 on the ground) - the monarch defense appears to have played well enough to win, but ncwc got the big play (a 59 yard td run) - this offense has struggled in 2 of 3 games, but it will come around...if the defense is still playing well, the monarchs will still be in the hunt...have faith, papi...they'll be alright

box score (http://annex.ncwc.edu/athletics/football/2006-07/stats/ncwc0923.htm)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 23, 2006, 09:20:07 PM
looking over the play-by-play, i see something similar to what happened against guilford - the monarchs were inside the ncwc 30 3 times and came away with ZERO points - turned the ball over twice, and turned it over on downs on the last posession when they needed a td and xp to win the game  - the 2nd ncwc td came on a short field, as they forced a fumble on a punt fielded at the mc 9 and mc got a personal foul called to ncwc the ball at the mc 5...those kinds of mistakes will kill a team
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 23, 2006, 10:39:55 PM
GC 17 SOVA 16.

Again the game was closer then it looked.  GC had two TD's taken back because of penalties.   (1 maybe there was and the other one was not.)  The refs, again I must complain.  I hope someone sees the tape from this game, and sees that ball would be set and the whistle wouldn't blow until SOVA broke the huddle.  It was a disgrace. The tape should show that.  GC dropped easily 6 interceptions on defense.  I am interested in seeing the box score. I bet GC had more yards then NCWC.  Maybe more rushing yards. 

I am ready to make my first 1st team all-conference pick.  K Chris Palme (He nailed a 47yrd kick.)

Just saw the box score..only 293 yards of offense, actually had more rushing yards. allowed 162 total yards and held them to 0-13 on 3rd down. I hope no one takes this that NCWC will blow away GC
Title: OK, lets make it more interesting................
Post by: Eh-You on September 24, 2006, 02:13:55 AM
Greensboro - blah, blah, blah
Methodist - blah, blah, blah
You guys scrapping about who's better after one of you loses to NCW and the other wins a nail biter over power house So.Va makes me want to vomit. GCGullet with his Massey ratings ??? All you G'boro guys have the most comical excuses (refs, closer than it looked, blah, blah). Either get it done on the field or don't.
Narch - No Rocket = no big wins *with all 17 of the QBs in the program, mastermind coach S should be able to find somebody to stop turning the ball over* How hard is it to take a snap and don't throw it to the over color jersey?
ALL G'BORO FANS - Why do I read game releases and see things about Herbin and the freaking kicker and never hear about that phenom of an athlete T.Lowe? Maybe if he was at Methodist they would be smart enough to give him the ball 30 times a gme
BBallGuy - is your "1st team all conf" kicker the same guy who put a potential game winning field goal against AU last year right in the middle of the soccer goal? That wouldn't be so bad if the soccer goal wasn't sitting just outside the corner of the endzone! Looked like he was throwing a fade route.
Our conference is sub par, to put it nicely, and you guys are making it worse by justifying why MC and GC are stinking it up. One's tradition should allow them to recruit a darn QB and the others amazing recruits ought to get the ball
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 24, 2006, 09:48:34 AM
eh-you - first off, i love the handle...very creative - secondly, i've thought that the cougars were the team to beat since before the season started and have said so publicly many times - i lauded the schedule and have stated on many occasions that i wish the monarchs would take the next step and schedule like that...forgive me, though, if i don't post about how great averett is every day - i don't recall any cougar fans posting about how great the monarchs were...ever - lastly, i don't think the qb has been the problem for the monarchs to this point, but i could be wrong

p.s. - if you want to talk about "mastermind" coaches, don't forget to talk about the one who called 4 straight passes when his team had 1st and goal from the 5 with less than 5 minutes remaining in the game and the oppoosition had 1 timeout - his team was up 22-17 and had a 1st team all-conference rb who had carried the ball 24 times for 109 yards in the game, yet this "mastermind" somehow decided NOT to give him the ball in this situation...

and exactly what is an "over color jersey"???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 24, 2006, 09:50:22 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 23, 2006, 10:39:55 PM
I hope no one takes this that NCWC will blow away GC

that's clearly what i think :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 24, 2006, 11:15:55 AM
Narch-even though I don't think it will happen the way GC played yesterday.  Well they deserve to be demolished.  Even though I don't think it will happen.  Dropped passes all over the place.

And, for everyone's sake I hope MC beats AU.  (Hopefully GC too.) Too show the once conference favorite, (At one point I had them as the favorite) Finishing 3rd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 24, 2006, 11:41:23 AM
Quote from: narch on September 23, 2006, 09:20:07 PM
looking over the play-by-play, i see something similar to what happened against guilford - the monarchs were inside the ncwc 30 3 times and came away with ZERO points - turned the ball over twice, and turned it over on downs on the last posession when they needed a td and xp to win the game  - the 2nd ncwc td came on a short field, as they forced a fumble on a punt fielded at the mc 9 and mc got a personal foul called to ncwc the ball at the mc 5...those kinds of mistakes will kill a team

Narch- I just had to take advantage of it, but according to dictionary.com, you do have misspelled word in your post. Im starting to think you aren't as omniscient as we all thought you were!!!  ;) PS I think the Monarchs are gonna finish ahead of the Lady Lions as well!! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 24, 2006, 12:46:03 PM
I am a little bit disapointed in MC.  I bought into the the hype the Narch brought with Methodist.  What disapoints me is who NCWC played.  They played nobody, and was 1-2 coming into the game yesterday.  Methodist on the other hand had a tougher schedule, and was 1-1 coming into yesterday.  What is the point?  NCWC didn't buy into the hype that was around Methodist, as being a premier team this year.  Methodist just dosen't have it this year.

eh-you-
Watch the game film from yesterday of GC and SOVA. I have seen high school refs who understood more about the game then yesterday.  Anybody who has some pull at any of these schools, and that school gets the tape from yesterday, look at it.
Title: Very interesting..............
Post by: Eh-You on September 24, 2006, 01:48:33 PM
Narch - i bow down
1st of all - good call on the over colored jerseys - it was late, but no excuses
2nd - GREAT FREAKIN CALL about the whole redzone situation last year - BONEHEAD!!!!!!!!!
(now how about some karma?  ;D)

BBall Guy - how in the world do you suggest I watch the game film of the Gboro / So.Va game?
Is it going to be an instant classic on ESPN or should i rent it when it comes out on DVD. Or maybe the Pride will post it next to that other 50 zillion GB file on they're homepage.

Maybe if G'boro is letting people watch their game films that could be a problem - or maybe you're in a position to see them and you're doing a little "insider trading"

Hey Narch - Go Methodist over GC (how about some more karma  ;))
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 24, 2006, 01:55:06 PM


Prideguy, correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't The Pride had two TDs called back in both of their victories at home?  That would have made both of those wins not nearly as close as the final scores.

If we can fix that we are better than what we've shown so far. I think our biggest challenge is next week against a very very good offensive team. The defense will have to step up.

BTW, what is The Pride's longest winning streak?





ROLL PRIDE
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 24, 2006, 02:19:29 PM
Eh-you
I said if you are within any top part of the organization of the school you represent, I say watch the game and see the poor officating.  That is what I said.

D3newbie- Yes back to back weeks two TD's have been called back.  So 4 TD's on 4 penalties the bast two weeks have been called back.  The defense is carrying the team this year so far.  It will carry us next week.  It is truly a rivalary.  No one expected it to be a good game last year.

3 wins is the most.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on September 24, 2006, 04:58:11 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 23, 2006, 10:39:55 PM
GC 17 SOVA 16.

Again the game was closer then it looked.  GC had two TD's taken back because of penalties.   (1 maybe there was and the other one was not.)  The refs, again I must complain.  I hope someone sees the tape from this game, and sees that ball would be set and the whistle wouldn't blow until SOVA broke the huddle.  It was a disgrace. The tape should show that. 

What is your point on the difference between when ball was on the ground and when whistle was blown?  There are many things that have to happen before the whistle can be blown.  It is not a matter of just waiting for the umpire to get the ball on the ground.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 24, 2006, 06:07:37 PM
TXMike- What are you talking about?

Additionally, the NFL allows 30 seconds for the players to act once the referee has put the ball down on the field and it is to be put into play. The other leagues allow only 25 seconds, except for the CFL, which allows only 20

Source:http://www.football.com/rulesdiff/index.shtml

When Ball Is Ready for Play
ARTICLE 4. A dead ball is ready for play when the referee:
a. If time is in, sounds his whistle and signals ready for play.
b. If time is out, sounds his whistle and signals either "start the clock'' or
"ball ready for play''
Source: NCAA College Football Rules.

So your telling me the referee thought it was ready to be in play once Sova broke the huddle give me a break. The ball was on the field like the rules have stated.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on September 24, 2006, 07:38:33 PM
I would like to know what you are complaining about?  Are you saying that SoVA had too much time because you would have liked to have seen the 25 second clock started earlier?  Are you saying something else?


Read the rule section you posted.  It says the ball is ready for play WHEN THE REFEREE SOUNDS HIS WHISTLE AND SIGNALS READY FOR PLAY.  I don't see anything in there about "theball being on the ground".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 24, 2006, 08:12:12 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 24, 2006, 06:07:37 PM

Additionally, the NFL allows 30 seconds for the players to act once the referee has put the ball down on the field and it is to be put into play. The other leagues allow only 25 seconds, except for the CFL, which allows only 20

Source:http://www.football.com/rulesdiff/index.shtml

That first section says that ONCE THE REFEREE HAS PUT THE BALL DOWN ON THE FIELD. (Hence in bold.) 
Quote from: TXMike on September 24, 2006, 07:38:33 PM
I would like to know what you are complaining about? 

The clock was started too late for them.  The ref waited for them to break the huddle.  The game clock would run and the play clock would not.  The booth has to wait for the officials to blow that whistle.  May I add this there was 38 seconds on the game clock yesterday.  The referee waited until 25 seconds and blew his whistle to start the play clock.  Greensboro never had to come to the line at the end of the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs_33 on September 24, 2006, 08:18:11 PM
I can't believe you guys are still talking about GC vs. SoVa. This was a game of such little significance and has generated far too much banter. It wasn't even a conference game and was between 2 bottom feeders.

Let us instead focus on a game that actually matters. Ferrum goes into Averett this saturday as conference play heats up. Should be a classic battle that will set the title chase in motion. More importantly, CNU opens conference play saturday and looks to take its first step toward the conference championship against a bruised Shenandoah.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on September 24, 2006, 08:25:37 PM
This is the actual rule from the NCAA rulebook:
Rule 2-2-4

When Ball Is Ready for Play
  A dead ball is ready for play when the referee:
a. If time is in, sounds his whistle and signals ready for play.
b. If time is out, sounds his whistle and signals either "start the clock'' or
"ball ready for play'' (A.R. 4-1-4-I and II).

There is NOTHING in the NCAA rulebook that talks about the "ball being put down on the field".  

So what you are saying is that SoVA would have come out of the huddle earlier and run a play had the whistle been blown?  Every football game I have ever seen, if the offense shows an intent to pick up the pace, the referee will also generally  speed things up to accomodate them.  Perhaps SoVa did not want to pick up the pace?

As for the last play...your school' stat report shows the last GC possession started at 1:01.  Since the clock would be started on the ready for play, they would likely have let the play clock run down to near 0 before snapping that means they like snapped at 38 seconds.  After the snap and the QB took a knee, there could not be 38 seconds left still.  Furthermore, I believe referees are instructed to mark the ball ready for play within 12 - 14 seconds following the conclusion of the previous play.  That means if the ball was snapped at :38, and QB was down at :36, the ready for  play should be blown anywhere from 24 to 22 seconds left on the game clock.  Eaither way, GC would not have to snap again.




Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 24, 2006, 08:42:33 PM
Well it was a hard loss for the Hornets yesterday. I really thought they could pull off a upset with the injuries that Ferrum had. It dosent get any easier for SU as they now have to face our rivals CNU next week in Shentel.

Go Hornets!!! we still love ya.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 24, 2006, 09:19:10 PM
Crazylegs-
This has little to do about GC or SOVA.  More with the refs

TXMike-I don't really care if the ball is in the refs hands or on the sideline.  Despite what the rule doesn't say, the ball is on the ground when the whistle is blown.  Am I right?  Here is the difference GC ran the no huddle most of the game so they were already on the line.  SOVA did not.  They waited for them to come to the line.  Now every game I have gone too, teams would still be in the huddle and that play clock would run, but they waited until they came to the line. They were giving extra couple of seconds while that game clock continued to roll.

I was at that game.  Greensboro took a knee once with 1:01 left on the clock.  Normally every other game I went too as soon as there is a knee.  They take that ball and roll the play clock. They don't wait 10-13 seconds to blow the whistle.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 24, 2006, 09:30:45 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 24, 2006, 09:19:10 PM


I was at that game.  Greensboro took a knee once with 1:01 left on the clock.  Normally every other game I went too as soon as there is a knee.  They take that ball and roll the play clock. They don't wait 10-13 seconds to blow the whistle.


I've never seen a ref take the ball from the QB and put it down and start the clock.  Most wait a general amount of time as if an actual play was run which would generally take between 5-8 seconds, then the time taken to spot the ball, set the marker, and then place the ball in play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 24, 2006, 09:41:36 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 24, 2006, 11:41:23 AM
Quote from: narch on September 23, 2006, 09:20:07 PM... on the last posession...

Narch- I just had to take advantage of it, but according to dictionary.com, you do have misspelled word in your post. Im starting to think you aren't as omniscient as we all thought you were!!!  ;) PS I think the Monarchs are gonna finish ahead of the Lady Lions as well!! ;D

damn that "s" key...always getting sstuck and leaving out an "s" altogether, or adding an "s" at timess i leasst ssupect - i gotta get my keyboard fixed :)

Quote from: Eh-You on September 24, 2006, 01:48:33 PM
Narch - i bow down
1st of all - good call on the over colored jerseys - it was late, but no excuses
2nd - GREAT FREAKIN CALL about the whole redzone situation last year - BONEHEAD!!!!!!!!!
(now how about some karma?  ;D)

Hey Narch - Go Methodist over GC (how about some more karma  ;))

ask and ye shall recieve, my friend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 24, 2006, 10:14:42 PM
narch, I wouldn't worry too much about "posession"!  In the last dozen posts or so, I have seen a mindboggling array.  I was certainly not trying to capture everything, but consider:  "disapoints," "dosen't," "dosent," "then" instead of "than" (many times!), "they're" instead of "their," "theball," "was" instead of "were," "accomodate," "school' " instead of "school's," "refs" instead of "refs' ," "too" instead of "to" (also many times!), an uncapitalized "i" and days of the week, just to name a few.  You're still omniscient in my book, which, thankfully, was spelled correctly when it was used!  :)  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 24, 2006, 11:42:37 PM
I am not going to imply that the Shenandoah administration is pushed around by their athletic programs, but the 42-0 loss to Ferrum certainly is not making the USAC any easier to love.

Are there any new rumblings about Shenandoah moving to a more "competitive" conference, like the Centennial?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 25, 2006, 12:00:37 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 24, 2006, 10:14:42 PM
narch, I wouldn't worry too much about "posession"!  In the last dozen posts or so, I have seen a mindboggling array.  I was certainly not trying to capture everything, but consider:  "disapoints," "dosen't," "dosent," "then" instead of "than" (many times!), "they're" instead of "their," "theball," "was" instead of "were," "accomodate," "school' " instead of "school's," "refs" instead of "refs' ," "too" instead of "to" (also many times!), an uncapitalized "i" and days of the week, just to name a few.  You're still omniscient in my book, which, thankfully, was spelled correctly when it was used!  :)  Peace

Man is this an essay writing board or a football posting board? I hope the latter as I am guilty of quite a few of the above mentioned grammer fopas! Oops, did I mention spelling too? :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs_33 on September 25, 2006, 08:59:56 AM
Thanks Llama-

Lets stop bickering and picking at the syntax of our posts and the technicalities of the play clock and refs. Or have you guys forgotten that this is about the greatest game on earth, FOOTBALL. Also, the last time i remember, a win was a win and a loss was a loss no matter how it came. Football isnt about bad calls and referee's mistakes. It is instead about a group of men working as a team to find a way to win, No matter what is thrown at them. In football you focus on what you can control and block the rest out. You are going to get knocked down, you are going to get bad calls, you are going to have to play tough games on the road. But no matter what you have to get back up and overcome. If you cant do that, you will lose.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 09:35:47 AM
Hey, llamaguy and crazylegs, just coming to narch's defense.  I simply wanted him to know we're all guilty of typing or spelling an "oops" from time to time.  You're right, it is primarily a "football" board, but some folks like to take a little time for fun that isn't all X's and O'x.  To be honest, if these boards were only about football, they'd be a little boring.  Some good-natured levity seems to help us be a little less cocky about the wins and a little less down about the losses.  :)   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 25, 2006, 10:06:40 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on September 25, 2006, 12:00:37 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 24, 2006, 10:14:42 PM
narch, I wouldn't worry too much about "posession"!  In the last dozen posts or so, I have seen a mindboggling array.  I was certainly not trying to capture everything, but consider:  "disapoints," "dosen't," "dosent," "then" instead of "than" (many times!), "they're" instead of "their," "theball," "was" instead of "were," "accomodate," "school' " instead of "school's," "refs" instead of "refs' ," "too" instead of "to" (also many times!), an uncapitalized "i" and days of the week, just to name a few.  You're still omniscient in my book, which, thankfully, was spelled correctly when it was used!  :)  Peace

Man is this an essay writing board or a football posting board? I hope the latter as I am guilty of quite a few of the above mentioned grammer fopas! Oops, did I mention spelling too? :o

"Keyboard dyslexia" is one thing.  Sloppiness is another.

These are not essay writing boards, but it is nice to read a carefully constructed, coherent piece of posting that reflects well on your alma mater.

At least llamaguy, I believe that you know the internet well enough to understand how and where to find the spelling of "faux pas".  And you usually correct your "false steps" as you make them. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 10:24:29 AM
Ralph, to come to llamaguy's defense, I'm pretty sure he did "fopas" in red to highlight the fact he was deliberately trying to get a laugh by misspelling "faux pas."  I do agree with you, however, that a post is not only a reflection of the writer, but their alma mater.  College level writing, even posts about football, should be as free of fumbles as possible.  Now, back to the games ... :)  Peace         
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 25, 2006, 10:32:23 AM
 
QuoteFootball isnt about bad calls and referee's mistakes.
???

Elroy, I have to disagree with you on this point . . . it's not ALL about bad calls and refs, but bad calls and refs are also part of The Game (and part of discussions about The Game). Maybe not as much now that Instant Replay is here, but at some levels, Instant Replay is now part of The Game.  Purist may not like it, and I don't like the delays it causes, but I think it makes The Game better by taking some of the human errors by refs out of The Game. JMO

QuoteIt is instead about a group of men working as a team to find a way to win, No matter what is thrown at them. In football you focus on what you can control and block the rest out.
:-\

I definately agree with you here, but as a player or coach, not as a spectator or fan. Unless you are a player or a coach, you really have no control over anything, so focusing on anything doesn't help your team win. In fact, anything written in these forums will probably not help anyone's team win (or lose). It is simply a place for fans to vent and discuss The Game - including technicalities that only matter to a few avid fans. It's part of the love of The Game of Football that some discuss the minutest details and how they may or may not affect The Game. For some it is really hard to wait an entire week for the next game so we post. At least the players and coaches have practice everyday.

QuoteYou are going to get knocked down
>:(

OK . . . so how many on this forum has been knocked down this season?
I was almost knocked down by a little girl in the line at concessions, but her stroller caught me.

Quoteyou are going to get bad calls, you are going to have to play tough games on the road.
:o

Boy, do I agree with you here!! Unfortunately, all of Greensboro's games have been home games - with 4 TDs called back in the last two. With both of their wins by one point, refs are fair game. And I'm really looking forward to seeing the officiating on the road ! ! !  :'( :'( :'( ;D >:(




ROLL PRIDE
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 25, 2006, 10:34:58 AM

HEY!! NARCH - did you take away my karma???

Can't a guy get a little love here . . . . . .   :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 25, 2006, 10:50:17 AM

whoever did that - it wasn't very nice . . . what is karma anyway?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 25, 2006, 10:54:53 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 10:24:29 AM
Ralph, to come to llamaguy's defense, I'm pretty sure he did "fopas" in red to highlight the fact he was deliberately trying to get a laugh by misspelling "faux pas."  I do agree with you, however, that a post is not only a reflection of the writer, but their alma mater.  College level writing, even posts about football, should be as free of fumbles as possible.  Now, back to the games ... :)  Peace         
I am sorry to give the impression that I did not catch llamaguy's "play" on words.

I appreciate the posters on this board who have made this board one of the enjoyable ones to read.  It is definitely more civilzed than it was about 2001. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs_33 on September 25, 2006, 11:00:21 AM
Newbie- When I referred to focusing on what you can control I was talking about the teams on the field. And as far as being knocked down, trust me, Ive had my share of bangs and bruises both past and present. Im not talking about people in the forrum in my posts, Im talking about on the field.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 25, 2006, 10:50:17 AM

whoever did that - it wasn't very nice . . . what is karma anyway?
D3Newbie, I have no idea who "dinged" you.   I sincerely appreciate your passion for Greensboro football and contributions to the board, so I'll restore the karma point for you.

All posters with 200 or more posts are entitled to give (applaud) and take (smite) karma.  You start with a zero balance and then your karma can go up or down, both negative and positive.  Those posters with over 200 posts have icons on their screen that are not yet visible to you.  Unfortunately, until you reach 200 posts, you are at the mercy of everyone else.  This is designed to prevent new posters from signing on anonymously and unfairly "smiting" someone from an opposing school without adding content to the board.  With seniority, then, comes privilege.  In a nutshell, if someone strongly agrees with you, thinks you have added valuable content, or believes you have handled an issue in a well-written, fair manner, they will "applaud" you.   Conversely, if they strongly dislike what you posted or think you handled a hot issue  poorly, they'll "smite" you.  To create some additional fairness, you can't "applaud" or "smite" the same person but once in an 18-hour period.  Also, eventually, if you reward or reprimand someone repeatedly, you will run out of available karma for that poster.  I hope this helps!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 25, 2006, 11:26:19 AM
Quote from: crazylegs_33 on September 25, 2006, 08:59:56 AM
Thanks Llama-
Or have you guys forgotten that this is about the greatest game on earth, FOOTBALL. Also, the last time i remember, a win was a win and a loss was a loss no matter how it came. Football isnt about bad calls and referee's mistakes. It is instead about a group of men working as a team to find a way to win, No matter what is thrown at them. In football you focus on what you can control and block the rest out. You are going to get knocked down, you are going to get bad calls, you are going to have to play tough games on the road. But no matter what you have to get back up and overcome. If you cant do that, you will lose.

Crazylegs- I agree with all that you say, execpt what I have bolded.  D3Newbie has got it right.  This game has become a game of referee mistakes and calls.  We all made it part of the game.  (When I am complaining about the refs greensboro has won.  More often then not, people complain when the team lost.)  More reasons officials have become part of the game.  Instant replay.  If it weren't for people that talked about calls, instant replay would never be.  At the upper levels in college, conferences have suspened officials for calls.  To say it isn't part of the game, is understating the facts.

I am sure everyone has done this, watching a basketball game and a foul is called with .2 seconds left.  It doesn't matter who is playing, everyone has said this at one point, "You can't call a foul there."  There is a penalty on just about every play (holding, illegal contact, etc.) Officials have that at thier discretion.   (4 TD's called back on 4 penalties is a little excessive.  I bet there is a statistic about how many TD's are called back based on penalties called somewhere.  Right now Greensboro is exceeding that statisic.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 11:39:53 AM
Quote from: crazylegs_33 on September 25, 2006, 08:59:56 AM... Football isnt about bad calls and referee's mistakes. ..
I wish it wasn't, but sometimes it can be.  Did anyone see Oklahoma and Oregon last week? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 25, 2006, 11:54:09 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 11:39:53 AM
Quote from: crazylegs_33 on September 25, 2006, 08:59:56 AM... Football isnt about bad calls and referee's mistakes. ..
I wish it wasn't, but sometimes it can be.  Did anyone see Oklahoma and Oregon last week? 

No but I believe the officials from that game were suspended.  I know one crew this year was suspened.  I am not sure if it was that game or some other one.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 25, 2006, 12:12:53 PM
Bad calls are going to happen...everytime a ref throws his flag he's going to be 50% wrong, it's part of the game, and generally the calls even out through the course of the game/season.  GC fans are complaining because they have had 4 TD's called back this season, understandable, I'd be upset too, but unless those flags were thrown after the TD was scored (doubtful) then it was just bad luck that the team happened to score on that play.  Like someone said, a penalty can be called on nearly every play so the fact that there was a penalty called should not seem odd.
With all that said, I have seen games were it definitely seemed the Refs had an agenda.  I watched a basketball game once in which one team shot 63 free throws and the other team shot 7.  So I'm not saying that it doesn't happen but I think a lot of complaining about refs stims from our love for our school/team and our hope that every break goes their way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 25, 2006, 11:54:09 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 11:39:53 AM
Quote from: crazylegs_33 on September 25, 2006, 08:59:56 AM... Football isnt about bad calls and referee's mistakes. ..
I wish it wasn't, but sometimes it can be.  Did anyone see Oklahoma and Oregon last week? 

No but I believe the officials from that game were suspended.  I know one crew this year was suspened.  I am not sure if it was that game or some other one.
You're right, they were suspended.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 12:45:42 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on September 25, 2006, 12:12:53 PM
Bad calls are going to happen...everytime a ref throws his flag he's going to be 50% wrong, it's part of the game, and generally the calls even out through the course of the game/season.  GC fans are complaining because they have had 4 TD's called back this season, understandable, I'd be upset too, but unless those flags were thrown after the TD was scored (doubtful) then it was just bad luck that the team happened to score on that play.  Like someone said, a penalty can be called on nearly every play so the fact that there was a penalty called should not seem odd.
With all that said, I have seen games were it definitely seemed the Refs had an agenda.  I watched a basketball game once in which one team shot 63 free throws and the other team shot 7.  So I'm not saying that it doesn't happen but I think a lot of complaining about refs stims from our love for our school/team and our hope that every break goes their way.
This word was mentioned before, but look up "hermeneutic."  In a nutshell, two (or more) otherwise rational people with good knowledge of a game's rules see the same event, but choose to (sincerely) interpret in the manner that suits their perception of what's right and wrong.  Have you ever seen a call go against the home team and the home crowd starts chanting "bulls***" even thought the television replay clearly shows the referee made the right call?  In their mind, an injustice was done and that, my friends, is just human nature.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 25, 2006, 01:01:51 PM
QuoteD3Newbie, I have no idea who "dinged" you.   I sincerely appreciate your passion for Greensboro football and contributions to the board, so I'll restore the karma point for you.

Thanks, Hasanova, for the explanation. Being a newbie, I know I've got lots to learn.

But it is nice to see this board so active (and aggitated). I know I check it every day since there is so little written elsewhere about D3 football. You certainly don't see much in the newspaper.

BTW, I have seen a ref pull his flag way behind a play, hold it close to his leg and wait to see if the runner scored a TD.  When the visiting team's back scored, the ref dropped his flag. I have a feeling that if he did not score the flag would not have been dropped. I was coaching, it was HS and we won anyway, but interesting things do happen.

The 4 TDs called back in the Greensboro games may have been legit calls, I didn't see them, but I would hope the coaches are watching the films and trying to eliminate these penalties. That is also part of todays game. As a Pride fan, I'm just thankful we won!!  ;)

The crews in the OK vs. OR game were suspended for one game and the Instant Replay guy in the booth retired for the rest of this season. So even with Instant Replay, you get controversy and mistakes. Just gives us more to talk about . . . . . ;D


BTW, I took hermeneutics in college . . . .don't remember much, but it's on my transcript . . .  ::)




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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 25, 2006, 01:21:49 PM
d3newbie I was at those games with the TD's being called back.  The flags were thrown late on two occasions, (again don't know for sure becuase I was watching the TD's)

I am glad this board is active too. I recently took a personality assessment in this Business Leadership class.  It said I was "Outspoken" among others...me outspoken.  Oh I never would have guessed  :D ;).

Does anyone know when they are going to update those stats from this past weekend's game on the USASAC website.  (I took another assessment on the Hermann's Whole Brain Model that pointed out I am "quanatative." Got to love leadership class.)  I need my numbers before I go mad.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on September 25, 2006, 01:37:18 PM
I had a call in the J.V. game last thursday night that i about got threw out for. The team ran a reverse and we sniffed it out pretty good, but in the backfield my noseguard was being covered the center and the center was hitting him like a boxing match in his kidneys. The ref was looking right at the play and saw him, i mean for god sakes he was laying in front of him. The ref never threw the flag for that, however he did call it for a facemask on us because our kid tried to get him off. Then that same game, we were down by 6 in the fourth quarter with like 3 mins. to play. The team ran first down sweep outside, we hold em. 2nd down they throw an incomplete pass, 3rd down they run a draw and we stop them in the backfield and we call a timeout. 4th down, they complete a pass to the running back, we stop em and should be our ball. The head official hold his hand up signals fourth down, well then we complain and the get another down to play, he said he was keeping up with it and it was 4th down. I went nuts on him and told him he was an idiot and all kinds of things, which was bad in my effort, but hell, 5 downs to play when it could have given us a chance to win the ball game.
We sent that film in and those officials were suspended for 3 games for both calls.

Now to your problem with officials, they are human and they make mistakes, it sucks that a game can be changed by a judgement call, but it happens and thats what they get paid to do. Would you complain if it was 4th down, your team is on the 5 yd line and the other team is crowded in the box so you throw a slant to your inside receiver, but he runs into the official in the middle of the field, would you complain? Oh well, they are part of the playing field. So you can whine about it all you want to, but it will continue to happen, its football.

Narch, the boys didnt look that well saturday according to the stats. Bartee has a great completion percentage, but he has no touchdowns yet and it is the 4th game of the year, he is 30 of 51 passes with 305 yds, and no touchdowns but 5 int's. Gotta have more td's. All of their TD'S have come on the run, now thats not a problem but they only have 6 of them. They have got to put the ball in the endzone when they get to the redzone. What do you see is going on. I know the defense is playin well, and they have their stuff together, does the Offense look confused or what? help me out!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballjoe on September 25, 2006, 03:58:54 PM
Narch, I have not seen any games this year.  Are the Monarchs using the spread offense?  Seems by the box, they are not and not using using the T.E. for receiving.  What about the big T.E. that hurt his knee last year?  Will he return?  Seems like they need to get the ball on the T.E. dumps when in the redzone.  Are they sticking mostly on the ground seems like they should go downfield more to open up the lanes for Hill.  If they do not stretch the field most teams can defense the run pretty well  and the season will be very short for them.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 25, 2006, 04:04:23 PM
It will be interesting to see this weekend Grensboro Vs Guilford.  Get to see how good that pass defense of Greensboro really is.  Allowing 91 yards and 29% a game.  We all know how much guilford likes to pass.  It will be the true first test for the defenseive secondary. (Which I think will keep in check.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 04:44:38 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 25, 2006, 04:04:23 PM... Allowing 91 yards and 29% a game.
PrideSportBBallGuy - I honestly think this might be gone by the end of the first quarter.  I do agree with you, however, I think Greensboro vs Guilford will be an interesting game.   I hope to see you there. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 25, 2006, 05:04:10 PM
nova-
I suspect 280 passing yards by Guilford.
Greensboro around 250.

and a Greensboro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 25, 2006, 06:31:01 PM

WIN?  WIN?? LOSS?   WIN??   ???

Geez, Prideguy, you can't keep me on edge like this . . . . .    :-\

a Greensboro WHAT?




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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on September 25, 2006, 06:44:05 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 25, 2006, 10:32:23 AM


Boy, do I agree with you here!! Unfortunately, all of Greensboro's games have been home games - with 4 TDs called back in the last two. With both of their wins by one point, refs are fair game. And I'm really looking forward to seeing the officiating on the road ! ! !  :'( :'( :'( ;D >:(

ROLL PRIDE

Why would it be any different the refs for all their games come from the same organization and could just as easily have the game on the road or at home.  In fact, most of the refs in the association will see teams in at least 1 home and away game during the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 25, 2006, 07:09:23 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 25, 2006, 05:04:10 PM
nova-
I suspect 280 passing yards by Guilford.
Greensboro around 250.

and a Greensboro

WIN!

Sorry d3newbie I was on my way out the door and posted it not realizing I hadn't finsished it.
This series has yet to have both teams with winning records coming into the game.  I believe this is the closest we have had where both teams getting to that record. (Guilford right at 2-2, but still not a winning record.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 25, 2006, 10:30:03 PM
fbjoe/mcol51 - i think the offense is playing very inconsistently and executing poorly in the red zone...i think they'll get on track soon, and when they do, they'll be very dangerous - i've only seen the chowan game in person, but i have faith - i'm not sure that the coaching staff has given bartee the entire offense, either, but it's tough to make a legit judgement from seeing one game

fbjoe - no offense, but i don't recall the te you're talking about - i know monarch te's didn't catch a lot of balls last year with all the wr's they ran out there - if hill gets any more running lanes, he'll win the heisman :)...the kid has 362 yards in 3 games - i could legitimately see him rushing for 1500 this year if he stays healthy - i do agree, though, that the monarchs need more balance and need to use an outstanding wr corps to the fullest
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 25, 2006, 10:50:24 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 10:24:29 AM
Ralph, to come to llamaguy's defense, I'm pretty sure he did "fopas" in red to highlight the fact he was deliberately trying to get a laugh by misspelling "faux pas."  I do agree with you, however, that a post is not only a reflection of the writer, but their alma mater.  College level writing, even posts about football, should be as free of fumbles as possible.  Now, back to the games ... :)  Peace         

Thanks Hasanova,
I think most of you are aware by now that:
1) I can only count by fives
2) My daily routine requires me to write in Sig. , 1 tab po qhs prn.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 10:58:13 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on September 25, 2006, 10:50:24 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 10:24:29 AM
Ralph, to come to llamaguy's defense, I'm pretty sure he did "fopas" in red to highlight the fact he was deliberately trying to get a laugh by misspelling "faux pas."  I do agree with you, however, that a post is not only a reflection of the writer, but their alma mater.  College level writing, even posts about football, should be as free of fumbles as possible.  Now, back to the games ... :)  Peace         

Thanks Hasanova,
I think most of you are aware by now that:
1) I can only count by fives
2) My daily routine requires me to write in Sig. , 1 tab po qhs prn.  ;D

You're welcome.  No problem - fair is fair.  :)  Hey, got anything at that pharmacy for the ulcer Guilford's D is giving me these days?  Will prn suffice or is there a special Latin abbreviation for take ten times each fall?  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 25, 2006, 11:13:32 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 10:58:13 PM

You're welcome.  No problem - fair is fair.  :)  Hey, got anything at that pharmacy for the ulcer Guilford's D is giving me these days?  Will prn suffice or is there a special Latin abbreviation for take ten times each fall?  lol

I could suggest the "purple pill"; however, I bet a couple of bad arse run stoppers in the middle might work a little better! :D

I believe the correct abbreviation would be: Take 1 cap po qSat am during football season.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 26, 2006, 08:14:54 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on September 25, 2006, 11:13:32 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 25, 2006, 10:58:13 PM

You're welcome.  No problem - fair is fair.  :)  Hey, got anything at that pharmacy for the ulcer Guilford's D is giving me these days?  Will prn suffice or is there a special Latin abbreviation for take ten times each fall?  lol

I could suggest the "purple pill"; however, I bet a couple of bad arse run stoppers in the middle might work a little better! :D

I believe the correct abbreviation would be: Take 1 cap po qSat am during football season.  ;)
I've had the "purple pill" before, but I agree, where's a good Defense when you need it?!  We have scored over 40 - and lost - three times in the past two years!  Hand me my pills!  I like the prescription - thanks.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 09:16:22 AM
nova-
I still don't know where I am going to be set up.  The guy running the whole tailgating thing says he thinks its over where the players come out.  All the way in the back,, but won't know for sure until friday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 26, 2006, 09:32:41 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 09:16:22 AM
nova-
I still don't know where I am going to be set up.  The guy running the whole tailgating thing says he thinks its over where the players come out.  All the way in the back,, but won't know for sure until friday.
OK.  No problem.  I'll check for messages later in the week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on September 26, 2006, 11:30:31 AM
Narch, i believe the TE that ftbl joe is talkin about was AJ Huddleston. He was a monster out there and is now if you see him. His knee was a problem he hurt it in the coastal carolina scrimmage and that gave way to letting andrew gurley have the reigns for TE last year. I dont know why hudd;eston is not back this year but im sure its a good reason, that kid loved football and still does im sure.

Narch- i wasnt knocking bartee, i think he is a great addition and replacement for rocket, however, i was just stating i would like to see him throw more touchdowns, i saw two of em get called back for holding against chowan on the highlight film, and he had two against guilford that should have been td's, but were also penalized.

I was there last year and saw bartee and thought he needed to grow up if he was to be the starter next year. Well he did just that, even to talk to him before the game against guilford he sounded like a completely different person and a football player. I understand they also have a nice freshman as well in sparks. He looked good during warmups throwing. He is a big kid, and hopefully one day may get to start for methodist.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballjoe on September 26, 2006, 11:55:17 AM
MCOL51 and NARCH thanks for the info.  I knew MC had a big boy at T.E. with good hands and would give Silk a run for the money at being the best T.E. in the conference, but had not heard anything about him.  Hopefully he will be back to help the offense
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 12:32:00 PM
Can someone tell me that NCWC is better then MC.  Or are they better then MC.  Just interested, because the word of the week so far is HYPE!

All I have heard was "We didn't buy into the hype surrounding Pittsburgh" (Bengals vs. Steelers)

Same thing last night with Falcons and Saints.  Joe Horn said they didn't buy into the hype of the Falcons.

I am expecting a team not favorite to win the conference, will do just that and not buy into the hype.  So here is my question, who do you all think has the best chance of taking down the big 3? (CNU, AU, and FC)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 26, 2006, 01:47:30 PM

QuoteI am expecting a team not favorite to win the conference, will do just that and not buy into the hype.  So here is my question, who do you all think has the best chance of taking down the big 3? (CNU, AU, and FC)

Greensboro ?

Is that the right answer ?

What do I win ?    Any Karma?  Narch?

I think this Saturday will tell us if The Pride are for real this year - or at least give us a better clue than the first three games. And the first QTR will be critical even though Greensboro has come from behind to win in the last two games.

Last week it seemed Herbin could run up the middle for 5-10 yards anytime he wanted to or his number was called. Do you think we might have more of a ground game up the middle this game to keep the ball out of Vogels hands and since the rush is their weakness?  That might be a key to this one . . . .





ROLL PRIDE ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 26, 2006, 01:47:51 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 12:32:00 PM
I am expecting a team not favorite to win the conference, will do just that and not buy into the hype.  So here is my question, who do you all think has the best chance of taking down the big 3? (CNU, AU, and FC)

The only team that will beat any of the Big 3 will be......another Big 3 team. From the rest of the pack, I think Wesleyan can come the closest, but it depends on which NCW team shows up. The Bishops who beat Methodist will have a much better chance than the Bishops who lost to Emory & Henry, though maybe I'm just not giving E&H enough credit. Monty has settled in there and might be working his magic after just one year.

As for our Big 3, the other five teams in the conference won't be able to stop Ferrum's run game, Averett's balanced attack or CNU's everything. The three leaders are just too far ahead of the rest of the group, and the only times the Big 3 will lose during the rest of the season will be to one another.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 26, 2006, 02:09:34 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 12:32:00 PM
Can someone tell me that NCWC is better then MC.  Or are they better then MC.  Just interested, because the word of the week so far is HYPE!

what does this mean???...the english language is a powerful tool, at some point you should learn to use it :)

as for the "hype" - when the coaches poll was made public and the monarchs were picked to finish 4th, i said that sounded just about right, and even made this comment:
Quote from: narch on July 19, 2006, 09:53:10 PM
p.s. - i agree completely with the coaches poll

and this comment as we were discussing m'ville's placement in the coaches poll:
Quote from: narch on July 31, 2006, 02:26:39 PM...it's tough to look at those 3 teams ahead of the monarchs and say conclusively that mc will beat them (even though they were 2-1 against them last year)

if that is "hyping" a team, i need to take lessons...i think what you're mistaking for "hype" is actually fans who are talking about their favorite team

speaking of hype maybe i should take notes from the gc fans - notice how many posts you've made about greensboro in the last few weeks and the type of proclamations you and other gc fans are making...all of this after beating powerhouses maryville and sova by a combined 4 points at home (with one of those games needing an ot period) - i hope for your sake that the lady lions live up to all the "hype" on this board
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 26, 2006, 02:31:41 PM

Com'on, Narch . . .give us a break!  We've already doubled our victories from last year and a wins a wins a win - right? Victory margin doesn't make any difference in conference standings.

After going 6-30 the past three years, we are 2-1 and in first place in the conference. Let us hype a little . . . who knows when we'll get another chance!

I was answering PrideGuy's question tongue in cheek when I said Greensboro. Sure the top three and MC will probably kill The Pride, but right now there is hope and hope is always good!!

And maybe, just maybe, The Pride will get their first winning season . . . . at least we can always hope - right??

BTW, no true hype right now after those close wins, but if we somehow kill Guilford by 40 then you might catch me hyping a little - or maybe hyperventilating . . .  ;D




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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 26, 2006, 02:38:57 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on September 26, 2006, 01:47:51 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 12:32:00 PM
I am expecting a team not favorite to win the conference, will do just that and not buy into the hype.  So here is my question, who do you all think has the best chance of taking down the big 3? (CNU, AU, and FC)

The only team that will beat any of the Big 3 will be......another Big 3 team. From the rest of the pack, I think Wesleyan can come the closest, but it depends on which NCW team shows up. The Bishops who beat Methodist will have a much better chance than the Bishops who lost to Emory & Henry, though maybe I'm just not giving E&H enough credit. Monty has settled in there and might be working his magic after just one year.

As for our Big 3, the other five teams in the conference won't be able to stop Ferrum's run game, Averett's balanced attack or CNU's everything. The three leaders are just too far ahead of the rest of the group, and the only times the Big 3 will lose during the rest of the season will be to one another.

I read that post earlier I believe it was posted by PrideSportsbballguy and I was thinking exactly what WC was thinking. I truely honestly believe that one of the big three will beat the big three!! Obviously they have to play each other, but I dont really see either of them losing the other games. I think the one test for CNU will be the SU game this weekend because they never play well at Shentel and the trip to Maryville via bus will take something out of them as well, even tho they are splitting the trip out there into two days. The thing CNU has going for them this year is that they play both Ferrum and Averett at home, which is huge, because as most teams do, they play so much better in front of a packed house (3,000+). Im just like the rest of you, cheering on our beloved teams hoping for the best and looking forward to another great weekend of college football on Saturday.

(And yes, this post was written in haste and not doublechecked for grammatical or spelling errors!!)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 26, 2006, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 26, 2006, 02:31:41 PM
... but if we somehow kill Guilford by 40 ....
What are the odds?  I'll take some of that action!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 26, 2006, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 26, 2006, 02:31:41 PM

Com'on, Narch . . .give us a break!  We've already doubled our victories from last year and a wins a wins a win - right? Victory margin doesn't make any difference in conference standings.

After going 6-30 the past three years, we are 2-1 and in first place in the conference. Let us hype a little . . . who knows when we'll get another chance!

I was answering PrideGuy's question tongue in cheek when I said Greensboro. Sure the top three and MC will probably kill The Pride, but right now there is hope and hope is always good!!

And maybe, just maybe, The Pride will get their first winning season . . . . at least we can always hope - right??

BTW, no true hype right now after those close wins, but if we somehow kill Guilford by 40 then you might catch me hyping a little - or maybe hyperventilating . . .  ;D

if gc fans are allowed to hype the pride after a 2-1 start against the teams they've played, then i think you guys can cut monarch fans a little slack for supporting a team that would be upset with a 5 or 6 win season...nothing short of being mentioned as part of the "big 3" is acceptable as a monarch fan, and we sure won't be crowing about a winning season anymore...we've been there, done that - unfortunately, the monarchs aren't in that "big 3" discussion at this point in the season (and really weren't much a part of the discussion last year, despite sharing a conference crown)

and, if you beat guilford by 40, I'LL hype the lady lions, how 'bout that?

might even stop calling them lady lions
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 26, 2006, 03:25:40 PM
All I can say is were is Mosh this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 26, 2006, 03:40:48 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on September 26, 2006, 03:25:40 PM
All I can say is were is Mosh this year?
Mosh is an Assistant Coach at Guilford this fall.  I'm sure he's under orders to stay off the d3 boards.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 04:13:34 PM
Quote from: narch on September 26, 2006, 02:09:34 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 12:32:00 PM
Can someone tell me that NCWC is better then MC.  Or are they better then MC.  Just interested, because the word of the week so far is HYPE!

what does this mean???...the english language is a powerful tool, at some point you should learn to use it.

I never for once ever thought Steelers or the Falcons were a legitimate playoff team.  The media does a good job on putting some hype on those teams.  Hence when I use the hype I am using that coaches poll.

All I said was GC will finish higher then Methodist.  That has been the basis of my hype.  (Alright plus the Guilford game.)  i said greensboro possibly will beat AU, lost to them by one last year.  (Greensboro was horrible last year).  We have the one conference win that historically keeps greensboro out of finishing last.  (Poll said we will be in last place.) Its a better team.

3-0 Greensboro Men's soccer with 36 mins left in the 1st half over Bridgewater.  Hype that up. (Bridgewater have a good soccer team)

5-0 23 mins left in first half.  (Maybe I am hyping the wrong Greensboro team)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 26, 2006, 04:39:58 PM
For the record, Greensboro futbol is usually better than Greensboro football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 04:44:05 PM
Hey wait a second is CNU better at Futbol mens and womens and Football and Volleyball and Track (inside,outside,mens womenscrosscountryetcetcetc.......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 04:45:50 PM
Come on guys lets see some bad Karma.
Bring it on.

I want to feel like Tony Montana at the end of Scarface.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 04:47:30 PM
By the way is there a record for bad Karma.

What do I win.
Title: Big 3 schedule
Post by: Eh-You on September 26, 2006, 04:56:38 PM
Great call about the "Big 3"'s schedules. You have to like CNU at home against the other two. I'll take AU over Ferrum this weekend for the same reasons. Home game, homecoming, etc. I certainly hope that AU beats CNU on the road - but 3000 hostiles isn't exactly the every week DIII road game. Not sure it matters though, worse case - a playoff bid at 7-3 b/c of the schedule. Who agrees / disagress?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 26, 2006, 04:58:52 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 04:47:30 PM
By the way is there a record for bad Karma.

What do I win.
Well, I once saw Scottie Too Hottie at -65 on the ODAC board, but somehow he has miraculously fought back to single digits in the black!   He gets my vote for Viagra "Comeback Poster of the Year!"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 05:07:53 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 26, 2006, 04:39:58 PM
For the record, Greensboro futbol is usually better than Greensboro football.

nova-
Yeah I know.  Women's soccer just got thier first win last week.  They blame it on Karma because they made fun of the football team more then anybody.  They thought karma finally caught up with them.   The tables have been turned, so far this year.

eh-you-
flat out if CNU wins every conference game except one (depending on the one), and finishes 2nd.  They will get a bid IMO.  Hope for that.  That way we have two teams playing come post season.  (I believe WCLegacy posted something about this earlier)

nova-very funny
Quote from: hasanova on September 26, 2006, 04:58:52 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 04:47:30 PM
By the way is there a record for bad Karma.

What do I win.
Well, I once saw Scottie Too Hottie at -65 on the ODAC board, but somehow he has miraculously fought back to single digits in the black!   He gets my vote for Viagra "Comeback Poster of the Year!"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 26, 2006, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: narch on September 26, 2006, 03:05:33 PM
if gc fans are allowed to hype the pride after a 2-1 start against the teams they've played, then i think you guys can cut monarch fans a little slack for supporting a team that would be upset with a 5 or 6 win season...

Ok, Narch, you got your slack - maybe you can remember back when you might have felt like we feel now with our little success so far . . . .

Quotenothing short of being mentioned as part of the "big 3" is acceptable as a monarch fan, and we sure won't be crowing about a winning season anymore...

Ok, how about the "BIG 4" ? And I think some of the "BIG 4" will beat some of the other "BIG 4".  (even I'm not sure what that means . . . ) 


Quoteand, if you beat guilford by 40, I'LL hype the lady lions, how 'bout that?

How about by 20? (Still hoping . . . .)

Quotemight even stop calling them lady lions

and I guess I'll stop calling the Monarchs the flaming Queens . . . . deal?



THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR THE KARMA . . . . IT MEANS A LOT TO ME!



ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 05:19:40 PM
Wait a minute.  I had -4 now I'm at -3.  What gives.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 05:21:03 PM
Karma, I don't need your stinking Karma.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 05:21:58 PM
D3newbie is a suck up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 26, 2006, 05:26:24 PM
Sticks and Stones . . . .

Jealous !!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 05:29:19 PM
I already said I don't want it.

Don't need it. 

WE ALL KNOW WHO THE BEST OVERALL ATHLETICS PROGRAM IN THIS CONFERENCE IS.

THE REST OF YOU ARE ALWAYS FIGHTING FOR OUR SCRAPS.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 26, 2006, 05:40:23 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 05:07:53 PM
eh-you-
flat out if CNU wins every conference game except one (depending on the one), and finishes 2nd.  They will get a bid IMO.  Hope for that.  That way we have two teams playing come post season.  (I believe WCLegacy posted something about this earlier)

BBallGuy, Here's the post from me that you're referring to:

Quote from: WCLegacy on September 17, 2006, 01:00:12 PM
But here's the new aspect to my thinking and rooting for Averett to win the conference. Assuming CNU wins the rest of its games except the one against Averett, I think that pretty much guarantees Chrisopher Newport and the USA South a Pool C bid to the playoffs. ... Two playoff teams this year would be a pretty sweet deal for us -- and should give our conference profile a much needed boost.

I'm still very much in favor of this scenario, but going to Pomoco and winning is no easy task. Actually, based on a quick look of the Captains' history, it doesn't look like any USAC team has beaten CNU at home since 2001. That's an impressive streak.

If Averett wins every game except the CNU matchup, I don't think AU will get a Pool C bid. Yes, they had an extremely tough sked, but they didn't play MUC or Wesley close enough to earn a lot of favor in the eyes of NCAA. That's the truth of the matter.

Averett is still my favorite to win the conference, but at worst they'll finish second. Ferrum will be the only speed bump before traveling to Newport News. And, I don't think Gboro will come within 21 points of AU, though everyone out there (read: GC fans) is entitled to their opinions otherwise. Someone said the Pride wasn't as good last year as they are this year. Well, that is easily said of Averett, too. There's a lot more going on there than there was in '05.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 05:43:02 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 05:29:19 PM

WE ALL KNOW WHO THE BEST OVERALL ATHLETICS PROGRAM IN THIS CONFERENCE IS.

THE REST OF YOU ARE ALWAYS FIGHTING FOR OUR SCRAPS.

CNU a public university- just a little bit more money to throw around then the rest of the conference.

CNU may be the best all-around in the conference in terms of all the sports, then why doesn't CNU just leave. Find a different bunch of schools to play around with  :D.  I will use this analogy comparing these schools to high schools. CNU is a 5A school having fun with 2A and 1A schools, no wonder they are the best in the conference.  ;) :D ;D.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 05:46:18 PM
Funny, I don't see any scholarship atheletes out there.  What do you mean by money?  Is that a green monster on this forum?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 05:50:52 PM
In all honesty I believe CNU probably should move up a notch.  The high school talent in our area is just awesome.  It would be nice to offer scholarships and keep more of them around.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 05:59:00 PM
I would trade Freeman Center over Hanes Gym any day.


There is where the money is.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 06:00:17 PM
Ever seen Hoosiers?  Hoop is still 10 ft.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 06:40:25 PM
BBallGuy,

When I was in Highschool CNU was CNC.  When I got to CNU the Gym was no better than a local Middle School Gym.  The science building was set up like an old hotel.  the corridors were on the outside of the building.  If you were early to class when it rained you stood outside up against the wall so you would not get wet.  No Dorms.  No Football.  Chem labs were out in a trailer. 

Former Virginia Senator by the name of Trible came in as the new President.  He set to work raising funds for the school. 
Now CNU has the best facilities over all in DIII that I have seen personally.  There may be better ones out there somewhere, I just have not seen them.

Maybe instead of crying about no money, your school should go hire a leader like Trible to raise the money or the support that you lack. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 07:16:19 PM
10 feet is still 10 feet..but getting splinters when one sits down isn't exactly exciting.

Now a little bit of history about GC.  Thanks to the current president.  We are no longer a finianical nightmare.  Greensboro had more buildings at one time, but past presidents poor descisions, caused us to lose most of them.  (Not to mention our main building as burnt down 3 times.) There is talk and a plan up in the main building (let's hope main doesn't burn down :D) That is an outdoor sports park that will be the envy of the conference in the future.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 07:23:59 PM
Not to mention our main building as burnt down 3 times

Get rid of the candles and tell the current pres to spring for electricity.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 07:27:37 PM
Happy to hear about the progress though. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs_33 on September 26, 2006, 09:37:03 PM
money or no money, CNU has been dominant in the conference in most all sports. They were dominant before the money and dominant now. IMO they will continue to be dominant. The more success we have, the more the kids want to come.

But every winning tradition has to start somewhere. So there IS hope for the rest of the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 09:54:05 PM
Crazylegs-
Yeah move up to D2 and you will have more of a reason to have kids come there. IMO
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 26, 2006, 10:34:01 PM
Narch- How do you call the line on MC and EH? EH +4?

A movie about Papi's life is coming out this week. Papi is playing Kevin Cosner in the sex scences...............Serious.....this is what they do everyday in the CG
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 26, 2006, 11:00:35 PM
I saw it a couple of weeks ago at a premier, it's pretty good, and pretty accurate.

Narch, are our redzone problems due to conservative play calling?  Sounds like they need to give Bartee full reign of the offense.  I know it's baptism by fire by they've got to let him feel the heat sometime.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 26, 2006, 11:24:10 PM
Quote from: crazylegs_33 on September 26, 2006, 09:37:03 PM
money or no money, CNU has been dominant in the conference in most all sports. They were dominant before the money and dominant now. IMO they will continue to be dominant. The more success we have, the more the kids want to come.

But every winning tradition has to start somewhere. So there IS hope for the rest of the conference.

I do have a question though Crazy.
With ODU now adding a 1-AA football team with 65 Schollys available, do you think this may pull some kids from the Tidewater area away from CNU? I know winning means alot but money talks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 12:17:32 AM
Llamaguy-
Very good point.  Although CNU does very well in every other sport.  I don't know if that will have much pull.  Again though football is usually, the last time I checked the biggest team at the schools.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2006, 12:18:54 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 09:54:05 PM
Crazylegs-
Yeah move up to D2 and you will have more of a reason to have kids come there. IMO

Crazylegs, I actually see some challenges for the USASAC men.  If Shenandoah gets an academically more prestigeous conference opportunity, that is geographically neutral or favorable, (Centennial or maybe the MAC)  then what is there to keep them in the USASAC?

What if the Capital Athletic Conference seeks a football-playing school that is acceptable to being in a mixed (Private and Public) conference?  The Captial only has Salisbury, Gallaudet (adding varsity in 2007), and Wesley joining in 2007.  The Capital is also adding Villa Julie and Hood, neither of which is playing football.  One needs 4 core members to offer a championship in a sport, and then get 3 affiliate members (Frostburg State?) to make the 7.  This is just conjecture at this point, but is interesting to consider in the light of all of the shuffling that is occurring in that part of D3.

The USASAC men only have 7 members.  You have no slack to lose a member.  I have posted elsewhere that I think that the smartest thing that you can do is to annex/merge with the GSAC.  In football, you pick up 2 more members, especially useful if a Shenandoah or a CNU leave.  In the other sports, you can split into divisions.  (In fact, expanding to the GSAC will add an automatic qualifier when Men's Cross Country goes to the AQ format.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 12:52:38 AM
Peace College, or Mary Baldwin, or Meredith College gets a football team.  We can let the other schools leave.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on September 27, 2006, 08:47:46 AM
If the USASAC looses CNU or Shennadoah, i see us picking up a couple of teams. Right now though, who would want to leave. This conference is so competitive it isnt funny. Since the renaming of the conference, we have never had an outright winner of this thing. We have always had 2 winners. Tell me that isnt competitive. I think Shenandoah might want to leave because everyone now is whoopin their tail. I mean they did bully people around when they first started that wing-t stuff, but once people learned to stop it, they exposed their weakness, no QB. This conference is awesome and i like every team in it. It should stay the way it is.

Hey anyone from CNU that follows the players when they leave, what is Justin Wood doing now? Is he playing somewhere? I enjoyed watching that man play and playing against him. When we beat CNU last year, that man took a beating most of the game, but we keyed off of him cuz he had shoved it in our throats the past 3 years, and  the whole time of the game he never said one thing negative, he was a leader. I would like to know what he is doing these days.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on September 27, 2006, 08:57:57 AM
Ok so here goes. It may be early but all i have done is look at stats and trying to get in on this picking teams and everything. I have plenty of time to do this in my ISS room at school when im not watching game film.

NCWC vs MARYVILLE- ncwc by 7. 35-28.

FERRUM vs AVERETT- Ferrum by 14. 35-21.  Averett has allowed 184 yds rushing per game this season, Ferrum has averaged 428.7. Averett could stop the pass, but they cant stop the run too well.

GREENSBORO vs GUILFORD- Guilford by 17. 45-28. Guilford has a nice passing game and they are pissed about loosing saturday to Averett. I think Vogelbach and his crew get back on track and pick up a big win against GC.

CNU vs SHENANDOAH- CNU by 21. 35-14. CNU looks great defensively. They feel that they have a point to prove this year. This year might come down to them and ferrum to see who will win the championship outright.

METHODIST vs EMORY&HENRY-  MC by 7. 28-21. Methodist gets on track and i think Mike hill goes off again this year on the wasps defense. Bartee may even throw his first TD of the year in this one!!

I think it will be a good weekend for football in the conference.

GO MONARCHS.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 27, 2006, 09:34:33 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 12:52:38 AM
Peace College, or Mary Baldwin, or Meredith College gets a football team.  We can let the other schools leave.  ;D
First, they need to get some men, then we'll talk about forming football teams.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 27, 2006, 10:01:43 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 05:59:00 PM
I would trade Freeman Center over Hanes Gym any day.


There is where the money is.

Who the hell wouldnt!??!?! That place is a dump!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 27, 2006, 10:03:36 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 09:54:05 PM
Crazylegs-
Yeah move up to D2 and you will have more of a reason to have kids come there. IMO

D2 WILL NEVER HAPPEN let me repeat that IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. D1 and I-AA for football, maybe in 15 years when someone donates 20 mill to help what very little endowment we now have.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 27, 2006, 10:07:47 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on September 26, 2006, 11:24:10 PM
Quote from: crazylegs_33 on September 26, 2006, 09:37:03 PM
money or no money, CNU has been dominant in the conference in most all sports. They were dominant before the money and dominant now. IMO they will continue to be dominant. The more success we have, the more the kids want to come.

But every winning tradition has to start somewhere. So there IS hope for the rest of the conference.

I do have a question though Crazy.
With ODU now adding a 1-AA football team with 65 Schollys available, do you think this may pull some kids from the Tidewater area away from CNU? I know winning means alot but money talks.

Without a doubt llama. The southside is a hot bed of football talent in this area and I can definitely see them pulling in kids that would under other circumstances come here. As far as numbers, I couldnt tell you, we really wont know until the 08 high school football season, since they are starting in 09.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 10:18:15 AM
nova-
Who says they need men.   ;D

My picks for Saturday.

E&H 20 Methodist 13-long trip in and out the moutains.  Take a bit out of Methodist.

FC 34 AU 14-If it is closer then this I will be surprised

Maryville 21 NCWC 20-  A game that could go either way but long trip for NCWC and MC is bound to bounce back, this is the team.  There is no luck after this game.

Greensboro 24  Guilford 21  - All the signs point to Greensboro.  3-1 at Guilford. They lead the series 5-4, and Greensboro smoked at the last homecoming game.  (lower score to be expected based on history)

CNU 35 SU 21-People of said CNU doesn't play will at Shentel.  The win the game but in the second half.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 27, 2006, 10:19:42 AM
Quote from: MCol51 on September 27, 2006, 08:47:46 AMHey anyone from CNU that follows the players when they leave, what is Justin Wood doing now? Is he playing somewhere? I enjoyed watching that man play and playing against him. When we beat CNU last year, that man took a beating most of the game, but we keyed off of him cuz he had shoved it in our throats the past 3 years, and  the whole time of the game he never said one thing negative, he was a leader. I would like to know what he is doing these days.

JWood is a student assistant for the CNU football team while he finishes his degree. I echo your sentiments on that young man, it was a great leader and a great player and was a joy to wach on the field.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 10:21:32 AM
Goose-

What conference should they join then.  CNU has some great teams playing in the USASAC doesn't benefit them. Unless over night USASAC starts winning National Championships left and right, I don't see that happening for at least another 15 years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on September 27, 2006, 12:17:01 PM
Thanks goose, i appreciate it. That young man will do great things as a coach somewhere. He knew the game and how to play it well.

good pick on the greensboro game, nice point made. I chose guilford because the stats dont lie, but who knows, they might stop the pass and win the game.

My question to do with guilford is why they are not utilizing micah rushing more. The kid is a phenominal athlete, and was in high school. Albemarle high school produces running backs i guess thats what they are made for. Use him to set up the pass, i mean when averett stopped them passing, shouldnt they have ran the ball more then. spread em out and run like hell with it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs_33 on September 27, 2006, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2006, 12:18:54 AM
The USASAC men only have 7 members.

Hey bud, check your facts before you post. Last time i checked we had 8.
CNU
Methodist
AU
SU
Ferrum
Gboro
NCWC
Maryville

let shenandoah leave if they don't like taking the beating everyone is giving them. But what does that tell the students there? IMO quitting is the easiest thing you will ever do. Leaving the conference is not trying to make your squad better and it doesnt fix anything.

As for ODU getting a team, yeah it will draw plenty of kids. But you have to understand that the peninsula and southside has so much talent we dont know what to do with it. Hampton teams seem to always win the state championships in football year after year. You think Hampton University doesnt take away from CNU already? how about Maryland even? we just had a denfensive end (Dean Muhtadi) leave CNU to go play there. Sure other schools pull from our recruiting pool but CNU has always found a way to win bottom line.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 27, 2006, 12:57:19 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 10:21:32 AM
Goose-

What conference should they join then.  CNU has some great teams playing in the USASAC doesn't benefit them. Unless over night USASAC starts winning National Championships left and right, I don't see that happening for at least another 15 years.

Well I know its been said that CNU will not move conferences without finding a home for everyone, no team will be left high and dry. But CNU isnt going anywhere as far as moving up to D1 or changing conferences. D2 is way out of the question because of how astronomical the travel budgets would be. So I dont think you have to worry about it, CNU will not be going anywhere until the presidents kick us out or there's an offer which the administration couldnt pass up. According to my sources, nothings imminent.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 27, 2006, 12:58:11 PM
Quote from: crazylegs_33 on September 27, 2006, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2006, 12:18:54 AM
The USASAC men only have 7 members.

Hey bud, check your facts before you post. Last time i checked we had 8.
CNU
Methodist
AU
SU
Ferrum
Gboro
NCWC
Maryville

let shenandoah leave if they don't like taking the beating everyone is giving them. But what does that tell the students there? IMO quitting is the easiest thing you will ever do. Leaving the conference is not trying to make your squad better and it doesnt fix anything.

As for ODU getting a team, yeah it will draw plenty of kids. But you have to understand that the peninsula and southside has so much talent we dont know what to do with it. Hampton teams seem to always win the state championships in football year after year. You think Hampton University doesnt take away from CNU already? how about Maryland even? we just had a denfensive end (Dean Muhtadi) leave CNU to go play there. Sure other schools pull from our recruiting pool but CNU has always found a way to win bottom line.

Maryville isnt a full-time member tho.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 01:03:41 PM
Quote from: MCol51 on September 27, 2006, 12:17:01 PM
i mean when averett stopped them passing, shouldnt they have ran the ball more then. spread em out and run like hell with it.

I don't know much about Micah Rushing, and agree if he is that talented they should use him more. They might be able to use him this weekend against Greensboro a little more.

AU did give up 502 yards through the air when they played guilford.  Not really shutting them down.  I did see Guilford only had 29 rushing yards.  Which could be the reason they lost that game. Greensboro's pass defense is tops in the USASAC, and has alot of experience and young talent.  Something I think AU lacks.  It will be closer then I think most people think.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs_33 on September 27, 2006, 01:08:21 PM
You guys really don't like CNU being in the conference huh? well, tough luck cause CNU is not going anywhere. Besides you guys should thank us for getting football. Our conference gets no respect as it is. CNU is the only team from the USA South to EVER  win  a playoff game. Just think what would happen if we left. The USA south would be known as the conference who gets stomped every year in the playoffs.

Nov 19, 2005  Wesley College 59, Ferrum 14  

I will say that shenandoah represented well in 2004 when the USA south had 2 playoff teams. They lost 21-17. Well fought but, we all know what happened to them since that. The solution for the cellar dwellers of the conference is not to look at CNU and say they need to get out, but instead they should look at themselves and try to find a way to get better. Afterall, if you cant beat CNU then how do you expect to compete at a national level?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs_33 on September 27, 2006, 01:14:25 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 01:03:41 PMGreensboro's pass defense is tops in the USASAC

HAHAHAHAHA, Greensboro? pass defense? ummm I don't want to be the one to burst your bubble on that one so I'll just let Guilford do that on saturday. And then after that, CNU will clean up the mess left by them and tehn we can talk about your pass defense!

CNU!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 27, 2006, 02:39:34 PM
Quote from: crazylegs_33 on September 27, 2006, 01:08:21 PM
You guys really don't like CNU being in the conference huh? well, tough luck cause CNU is not going anywhere.

This has gotten way out of hand. Show me exactly where all these people are really wanting CNU out of the conference. Was it this comment?

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 26, 2006, 05:43:02 PMCNU may be the best all-around in the conference in terms of all the sports, then why doesn't CNU just leave. Find a different bunch of schools to play around with  :D.
Because that sure doesn't sound like a sweeping endorsement of wanting Christopher Newport out of the conference. In fact, it sounds a lot more like a response to someone else hyping CNU a bit much. But I guess this comment could be taken pretty hostile, what with the smiley face and all.

Or maybe this was the fly-the-USAC-coop comment that put crazylegs on the defensive:

Quote from: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 05:50:52 PM
In all honesty I believe CNU probably should move up a notch.  The high school talent in our area is just awesome.  It would be nice to offer scholarships and keep more of them around.
But then again, that was made by a CNU fan. So maybe the rest of the conference should be getting on CNU's case for wanting to bail out. Crazylegs, you might have been pointing the finger at the wrong group of people.

All said and done, people need to get over this. Nobody has denied that CNU has raised the national profile of this conference. And it's unfair to throw a lopsided '05 playoff score into the mix when CNU couldn't even make the playoffs last year. Wesley shredded a lot of teams last season, and the results of Round 1 weren't all that surprising.

Yes, CNU has the advantage of being a very big school situated in an area that is a hotbed of talent. You know what, Mount Union is located in a similar spot and have capitalized on that talent. CNU is too. But while the Captains have been the best USAC team on most years, they aren't this awe-inspiring powerhouse that makes other teams weak in the knees. They've never gone undefeated in the conference, and last year, they showed themselves to be more susceptible than ever.

All this talk of moving conferences or divisions is just silly. Do you really think CNU would leave the beauty of being a top-notch D3 team to spend a couple of years as a mediocre team at a higher level. (Chowan, for example, is still about the worst team in its division....it takes time to become good at a higher level.)

I don't see anyone from the USAC leaving, and especially because CNU is right in my backyard and because I love going to see the Captains play, I sure hope they won't go anywhere.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 27, 2006, 02:40:23 PM
Quote from: crazylegs_33 on September 27, 2006, 01:08:21 PM
You guys really don't like CNU being in the conference huh?

Nothing I've read on here lately has said they wished CNU would leave...there have been discussions on whether or not CNU should or would move up a division or two.  Personally I think CNU getting football has been a great thing for the USASAC (DIAC, I'm still for bringing back the "dixie" as the name of the conference but that's a different argument  >:( ).  CNU has caused everyone in this conference to step up to the plate and either put up or shut up.  With that said...I still think we might be the conference known as the conference that gets beat every year in the playoffs and until a team from the USASAC can manage to win a couple of games, or maybe make it to the semi's or Stagg bowl then we will continue to not get as much respect as older conferences do.  One victory hasn't exactly made us a juggernaut!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 27, 2006, 02:42:48 PM
Legacy...I guess we were thinking the same thing at the same time!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 27, 2006, 02:47:06 PM
Indeed we were.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 02:51:25 PM
Quote from: crazylegs_33 on September 27, 2006, 01:14:25 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 01:03:41 PMGreensboro's pass defense is tops in the USASAC

HAHAHAHAHA, Greensboro? pass defense? ummm I don't want to be the one to burst your bubble on that one so I'll just let Guilford do that on saturday. And then after that, CNU will clean up the mess left by them and tehn we can talk about your pass defense!

CNU!

Crazylegs- stats back it up.  Greensboro has had one of the top pass defenses in the conference since 2002.  Plus, after 3 games, yes 3 games they alredy have little less then half the amount of interceptions they had last year.  They haven't played a team that is pass dominated and they have that many interceptions give me a break.  I think Guilford and that passing game, of course they are going to get some yards, because that is what they do.  I expect Guilford to be picked off at least 3 maybe 4 times.

Its not like every school in the conference has some senator come and be thier president everyday.  Get off the backs of all the little schools in this conference.  When some national championships besides indoor track :D ;D

Over the lifetime of the schools associated with this conference Methodist is tops because they are 7th in D3 with National Championships won.

CNU has done well for the conference.  I think to help keep the kids, moving up would be a good thing for them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2006, 03:01:47 PM
+1 Karma WCLegacy and admiralpapi!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2006, 03:07:36 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 27, 2006, 12:58:11 PM
Quote from: crazylegs_33 on September 27, 2006, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2006, 12:18:54 AM
The USASAC men only have 7 members.

Hey bud, check your facts before you post. Last time i checked we had 8.
CNU
Methodist
AU
SU
Ferrum
Gboro
NCWC
Maryville

let shenandoah leave if they don't like taking the beating everyone is giving them. But what does that tell the students there? IMO quitting is the easiest thing you will ever do. Leaving the conference is not trying to make your squad better and it doesnt fix anything.

As for ODU getting a team, yeah it will draw plenty of kids. But you have to understand that the peninsula and southside has so much talent we dont know what to do with it. Hampton teams seem to always win the state championships in football year after year. You think Hampton University doesnt take away from CNU already? how about Maryland even? we just had a denfensive end (Dean Muhtadi) leave CNU to go play there. Sure other schools pull from our recruiting pool but CNU has always found a way to win bottom line.

Maryville isnt a full-time member tho.

Goose, thanks.  You got my back! :)

Maryville is a football-only affiliate.  If someone left the USAC Men, then you would need to add a full-time member or affiliates to make the necessary 7 for the Pool A bid.

For all the undisclosed baggage that accompanied Chowan, they gave you a body to count towards the "7".  D3's in that part of the country are rare, and an aggressive expansion posture by the conference, as we have seen with the women, does strengthen the conference.

The USAC has several strong sports.  I believe that the USAC should continue to expand.  My personal interest would be to see the logical annexation/merger with the GSAC.  I believe that is the win/win.   :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 27, 2006, 03:40:50 PM

Over the lifetime of the schools associated with this conference Methodist is tops because they are 7th in D3 with National Championships won.
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Yeah and they've all come in women's golf too!!  ;)  ;D (easy kids, its a joke, no need to fly off the handle now!)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 27, 2006, 03:41:09 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2006, 03:07:36 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 27, 2006, 12:58:11 PM
Quote from: crazylegs_33 on September 27, 2006, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2006, 12:18:54 AM
The USASAC men only have 7 members.

Hey bud, check your facts before you post. Last time i checked we had 8.
CNU
Methodist
AU
SU
Ferrum
Gboro
NCWC
Maryville

let shenandoah leave if they don't like taking the beating everyone is giving them. But what does that tell the students there? IMO quitting is the easiest thing you will ever do. Leaving the conference is not trying to make your squad better and it doesnt fix anything.

As for ODU getting a team, yeah it will draw plenty of kids. But you have to understand that the peninsula and southside has so much talent we dont know what to do with it. Hampton teams seem to always win the state championships in football year after year. You think Hampton University doesnt take away from CNU already? how about Maryland even? we just had a denfensive end (Dean Muhtadi) leave CNU to go play there. Sure other schools pull from our recruiting pool but CNU has always found a way to win bottom line.

Maryville isnt a full-time member tho.

Goose, thanks.  You got my back! :)

Maryville is a football-only affiliate.  If someone left the USAC Men, then you would need to add a full-time member or affiliates to make the necessary 7 for the Pool A bid.

For all the undisclosed baggage that accompanied Chowan, they gave you a body to count towards the "7".  D3's in that part of the country are rare, and an aggressive expansion posture by the conference, as we have seen with the women, does strengthen the conference.

The USAC has several strong sports.  I believe that the USAC should continue to expand.  My personal interest would be to see the logical annexation/merger with the GSAC.  I believe that is the win/win.   :)

Im with ya Ralph, Im with ya!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2006, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 26, 2006, 05:17:00 PMOk, Narch, you got your slack - maybe you can remember back when you might have felt like we feel now with our little success so far . . . .
thanks for the slack...coming from you that means a lot

Quote from: D3Newbie on September 26, 2006, 05:17:00 PMOk, how about the "BIG 4" ? And I think some of the "BIG 4" will beat some of the other "BIG 4".  (even I'm not sure what that means . . . )
the monarchs aren't there right now...maybe by the end of the season

Quote from: D3Newbie on September 26, 2006, 05:17:00 PMHow about by 20? (Still hoping . . . .)
not a chance...it's got to be 40 plus :)

Quote from: D3Newbie on September 26, 2006, 05:17:00 PMand I guess I'll stop calling the Monarchs the flaming Queens . . . . deal?
the term monarch, as used by mc, refers to the king of the jungle...calling the monarchs the flaming queens makes no sense

Quote from: D3Newbie on September 26, 2006, 05:17:00 PM
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR THE KARMA . . . . IT MEANS A LOT TO ME!
you're welcome...and for what it's worth, i've never "smited" you



ROLL OVER PRIDE ! ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2006, 06:12:02 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 27, 2006, 03:40:50 PM
Yeah and they've all come in women's golf too!!  ;)  ;D (easy kids, its a joke, no need to fly off the handle now!)

goose, not flying off the handle, just informing some of the others on this board who aren't as enlightened as you...only 19 of the monarchs 28 team championships have come in women's golf...the other 9 have come in men's golf (as did most of the monarchs 29 individual national championships) - the monarchs are anything but a one-horse show, however, as mc has had both soccer teams play in the national title game (in the same year, actually) along with the baseball team - additionally, the monarchs have had individual national championships in women's tennis - i don't know that any usasac school can boast of title appearances in 6 different sports - additionally, the monarchs have won both usasac men's presidents cup trophies (04-05 and 05-06) given to the overall best men's athletic program in the conference (although cnu has won the overall usasac president's cup for at least the last 7 years...maybe more) - the monarchs have also had the highest usasac finish in the national director's cup standings each year for at least the last 10 years (based largely upon the success of the golf teams, admittedly, but impressive still)

legacy - i know you're relatively new to the conference and these boards, but there has clearly been an outcry for cnu to leave the usasac - for the record, i've never advocated this, but i do think that cnu has certain undeniable recruiting advantages as a public school, with public funding - in the past many cnu fans have turned a blind eye and denied these advantages....but i don't want to beat a horse that died MANY years ago - overall, cnu is good for this conference, and i, for one, hope they remain in the usasac forever

ralph - just wondering...do you have information that leads you to believe that su is leaving the conference...you seem to push the gsac/usasac merger idea at any opening...is there something we should all know?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 06:25:01 PM
Quote from: narch on September 27, 2006, 06:12:02 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 27, 2006, 03:40:50 PM
Yeah and they've all come in women's golf too!!  ;)  ;D (easy kids, its a joke, no need to fly off the handle now!)

goose, not flying off the handle, just informing some of the others on this board who aren't as enlightened as you...only 19 of the monarchs 28 team championships have come in women's golf...the other 9 have come in men's golf (as did most of the monarchs 29 individual national championships) - the monarchs are anything but a one-horse show, however, as mc has had both soccer teams play in the national title game (in the same year, actually) along with the baseball team - additionally, the monarchs have had individual national championships in women's tennis - i don't know that any usasac school can boast of title appearances in 6 different sports - additionally, the monarchs have won both usasac men's presidents cup trophies (04-05 and 05-06) given to the overall best men's athletic program in the conference (although cnu has won the overall usasac president's cup for at least the last 7 years...maybe more) - the monarchs have also had the highest usasac finish in the national director's cup standings each year for at least the last 10 years (based largely upon the success of the golf teams, admittedly, but impressive still)

legacy - i know you're relatively new to the conference and these boards, but there has clearly been an outcry for cnu to leave the usasac - for the record, i've never advocated this, but i do think that cnu has certain undeniable recruiting advantages as a public school, with public funding - in the past many cnu fans have turned a blind eye and denied these advantages....but i don't want to beat a horse that died MANY years ago - overall, cnu is good for this conference, and i, for one, hope they remain in the usasac forever

ralph - just wondering...do you have information that leads you to believe that su is leaving the conference...you seem to push the gsac/usasac merger idea at any opening...is there something we should all know?




All I have to say Narch is.....................AMEN.

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 02:51:25 PM

Over the lifetime of the schools associated with this conference Methodist is tops because they are 7th in D3 with National Championships won.

AND....Give me some credit.  I actually said Methodist College was the best in the conference
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 27, 2006, 06:31:37 PM
Quote from: narch on September 27, 2006, 06:12:02 PM
legacy - i know you're relatively new to the conference and these boards, but there has clearly been an outcry for cnu to leave the usasac - for the record, i've never advocated this, but i do think that cnu has certain undeniable recruiting advantages as a public school, with public funding - in the past many cnu fans have turned a blind eye and denied these advantages....but i don't want to beat a horse that died MANY years ago - overall, cnu is good for this conference, and i, for one, hope they remain in the usasac forever

Oh, I'm well aware of the history and biases against CNU. I remember these topics being beaten to death in the past (back when I was a troller and not a poster here). My basic reaction to the recent posts was: Why has this topic surfaced.....again? And I think the answer lies in the fact that there are some fledging CNU viewpoints here and that there was some misreading (or overreading) into some things that had been said. Some of the defensiveness, I think, was misdirected -- and just got to be a little much.

I, like you, narch, have no desire to see CNU leave.

The public-private argument is something that should come up in the off-season (if at all), when there's nothing else to talk about. Right now, we have real games, real stats and real standings to discuss!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 27, 2006, 06:44:22 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 06:25:01 PM
Quote from: narch on September 27, 2006, 06:12:02 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 27, 2006, 03:40:50 PM
Yeah and they've all come in women's golf too!!  ;)  ;D (easy kids, its a joke, no need to fly off the handle now!)

goose, not flying off the handle, just informing some of the others on this board who aren't as enlightened as you...only 19 of the monarchs 28 team championships have come in women's golf...the other 9 have come in men's golf (as did most of the monarchs 29 individual national championships) - the monarchs are anything but a one-horse show, however, as mc has had both soccer teams play in the national title game (in the same year, actually) along with the baseball team - additionally, the monarchs have had individual national championships in women's tennis - i don't know that any usasac school can boast of title appearances in 6 different sports - additionally, the monarchs have won both usasac men's presidents cup trophies (04-05 and 05-06) given to the overall best men's athletic program in the conference (although cnu has won the overall usasac president's cup for at least the last 7 years...maybe more) - the monarchs have also had the highest usasac finish in the national director's cup standings each year for at least the last 10 years (based largely upon the success of the golf teams, admittedly, but impressive still)

legacy - i know you're relatively new to the conference and these boards, but there has clearly been an outcry for cnu to leave the usasac - for the record, i've never advocated this, but i do think that cnu has certain undeniable recruiting advantages as a public school, with public funding - in the past many cnu fans have turned a blind eye and denied these advantages....but i don't want to beat a horse that died MANY years ago - overall, cnu is good for this conference, and i, for one, hope they remain in the usasac forever

ralph - just wondering...do you have information that leads you to believe that su is leaving the conference...you seem to push the gsac/usasac merger idea at any opening...is there something we should all know?




All I have to say Narch is.....................AMEN.

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 02:51:25 PM

Over the lifetime of the schools associated with this conference Methodist is tops because they are 7th in D3 with National Championships won.

AND....Give me some credit.  I actually said Methodist College was the best in the conference

Amen to what?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 27, 2006, 06:45:22 PM
Again narch, it was a freakin joke. I know you've had more national championships in other sports than womens golf, damn, Ive now officially been informed and I cant thank you enough for that Monarch Athletics history lesson.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 06:57:51 PM
Goose-

I just agreed with what narch had to said. 

Do I really care if CNU leaves or not.  No I don't, I am an optimistic person.  I want everyone to do well. If moving up benefits them by all means do it.
Quote from: WCLegacy on September 27, 2006, 06:31:37 PM

The public-private argument is something that should come up in the off-season (if at all), when there's nothing else to talk about. Right now, we have real games, real stats and real standings to discuss!  ;)

Like.....Greensboro is in first place in the conference  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 27, 2006, 10:39:18 PM
Hear me out ok.  I am just trying to keep this board active ;D.  You all are lucky it's football season.  This is the only reason why you all are hearing/reading it here.  Greensboro has the best across the conference players in every sport.

POY Award's Won

GC 7 out 17 (Baseball has pitcher, and player of year.  Softball the same way. Football offense and defense. So it really is 14 sports.)

Methodist 6

CNU 3

NCWC 1

Again, I am trying to keep this board talking.  Now give Greensboro Athletics a chance. ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 27, 2006, 11:12:43 PM
Quote from: narch on September 27, 2006, 06:12:02 PM

ralph - just wondering...do you have information that leads you to believe that su is leaving the conference...you seem to push the gsac/usasac merger idea at any opening...is there something we should all know?


No I do not. I am just looking at what is happening in the mid-Atlantic seaboard.  I have followed the amalgamation of disparate teams into the NEAC, which seems to be the beginning of these changes in the conferences.

We have seen so many changes that keep expecting more changes and I don't want to see student-athletes hurt by these changes.

Fisk left the GSAC.
Birmingham-Southern moves up to D3 this year.
UDallas left the ASC-East in 2001.
Austin College left the ASC-East this year (and killed the possible split of the ASC into 2 conferences, because we did not have enough teams to split.)  Reputable authorities have told me that you need 10 teams in a conference to decrease the vulnerablilty to teams leaving said conference.
In the South Region, we have had a lot of movement.

I want to see teams find D3 opponents. Maybe now Millsaps will be able to find 9-10 D3 opponents per season with 8 SCAC games plus a Miss. College and maybe a LaGrange/Huntingdon.  (Millsaps is playing a D2 team Saturday that may beat them by 35 points.)  Rowan in the NJAC can use a few; maybe the NJAC will add Brockport and Morrisville.  Huntingdon and LaGrange need a full schedule and I think that the USAC is the right choice for them.  (The ASC is just too far West and they are not getting invites to join the SCAC which will have 9-football playing members.)

WCLegacy has a good point. I will defer to the off-season, when I expect the next round of moves to be announced, after the Fall Board meetings on the various campuses.  Thanks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on September 28, 2006, 09:33:04 AM
ok, so now i am tired of hearing people wanting CNU out of this conference or not out of the conference. If they want to leave to it will be up to their president and AD to make that decision.

PAPI-I agree whole heartedly with you. CNU joining this conference has made everyone step up and play. Take methodist for example, we had never beaten CNU, which was a little intimidating when you suit up to play on saturday, and we never stayed or hung in the game with them either. Until last year, we came out and put up 35 on them in the first half, and our defense held tough to come away with the win. I think with the arrival of CNU into this conference, it has made everyone better. I think the thing with CNU is the fact that they are a state school, it only costs 8,000 to go there, whereas a kid looks at methodist or somewhere like that, its 28,000. It is not rocket science to choose which one goes where.

Narch- whats your opinion on this parks kid for QB. Some of the guys said he came into the game last week against wesleyan on second down. Hnaded the ball off, then everyone thought he was going to do it again, but he stepped up in the pocket, took a hit, and roped one to the wideout for the first down. Sounds like he is pretty mature to be a freshman if you ask me. I think there is more competition there than we realize. I would almost like to see bartee go to a slot or wideout reciever next year and use his moves that way, and let this parks kid throw some ropes to em like PAPI used to do? lol.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 28, 2006, 11:06:39 AM
Quote from: MCol51 on September 28, 2006, 09:33:04 AM
ok, so now i am tired of hearing people wanting CNU out of this conference or not out of the conference. If they want to leave to it will be up to their president and AD to make that decision. ...


The Dixie/USAC has a historically been a mixed conference. UMC-Charlotte was a charter member.

http://www.usasouth.net/PDFs/footballguide.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 28, 2006, 11:36:54 AM
Narch
What is the call this weekend? MC or EH
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 28, 2006, 04:46:11 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 28, 2006, 11:36:54 AM
Narch
What is the call this weekend? MC or EH

here are all of my calls for this weekend:

averett 45 - ferrum 42 - should be a barn burner and an exciting game, but the cougars will nip the panthers

guilford 38 - gc 24 - too much vogelbach for the lady lions


cnu 31 - su 6 - captains find a way to win big in shentel

ncwc 17 - m'ville 13 - bishops get the "w" to stay perfect in conference

mc  27 - ehc 20 - the wasps aren't ready yet, and the monarchs aren't ready to write off the season

mcol51 - i really thought that parks would win the job outright in camp - he's got a good size/mobility combo and i've heard some of the same things you have about his arm - the coaches have decided bartee is the guy, though, and that's good enough for me - he throws a really nice deep ball and he's almost as athletic as the rocket was - i'm not worried about the qb position...yet - i think bartee has some huge shoes to fill, and all he needs to do is manage the offense, cut down on the turnovers and get the ball to playmakers like hill, sands, doleman, mularski and co. - things will come around, and this weekend might be a good weekend for the turnaround to happen
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2006, 06:36:24 PM
Narch- Maryville will win this saturday.  They are releasing the new logo on Saturday.

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/news/news.asp?id=744&pgID=784

NCWC released the new logo this year and they are playing well.  They beat Methodist last week with that new logo  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 28, 2006, 11:12:12 PM
Narch, I never like to disagree with you but I think Ferrum holds on to beat AU.  I think Ferrum has got more of that "smack you in the mouth" attitude that makes a difference in a close game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 29, 2006, 10:47:23 AM
I am going with Narch on this week's picks. MC picks up important win this week in their last nonconference game.
About CNU leaving the conference- I think it would really hurt the level of play that they have helped to raise.  I think we should add more public schools to the conference and really make things interesting.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 29, 2006, 02:11:49 PM
Keys to Victory the Souper Bowl (I guess I might start doing this, every week  :) )

Greensboro

Get to the QB-Big guys in the middle playing against the smaller OL of Guilford

Stopping the Pass- Guilford's top rank passing offense vs the 10th rank pass defense.

Force Turnovers- AU picked of Vogelbach 4 times and and Greensboro leads USASC in defensive take-aways.

Guilford

Execute the run- Guilford loves to pass, but Greensboro can't stop the run.

Score First- Greensboro is 2-0 when they score first this year. 3 out of the last 4 years whichever team score first in this game won.

Don't be distracted- It's Alumni weekend, Homecoming and the dedication of the football field.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on September 29, 2006, 09:59:20 PM
CNU heads to Shenandoah.

CNU is going to make it feel like a home game.  Cheerleaders and band are traveling for the first time.  We usually have a pretty good traveling croud.  The extra support is going to be really fun.  I think we should do it every away game.

This game is extra special though.  we must break the shentel curse.

If you have chance to get to the game do it.  We have a huge number of cheerleaders and at the home games they are pretty impressive.  It makes for a DI like atmosphere.

I hope we finally have a win that is not a nail biter.  I am running out of Nitro pills. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 30, 2006, 02:15:24 AM
Good luck to CNU today. I'm still a die hard CNU fan but the working world keeps me from posting alot.

Narch, Mosh who I haven't seen much from lately, and whoever else who wondered who I was.

And if you wonder why I waited so long to give out my real name. Have you ever seen the VEIN in coach K's neck stick out when he gets angry. Some fears take a while to get over if you know what I mean. LOL  ;D ;D

CCCCCCCCCCCCCCNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.

BREAK THE SU CURSE.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 30, 2006, 09:07:54 AM
That 54 in your post name kinda gives it away doesnt it!! Glad to see tho that you are doing well in the working world. Definitely enjoyed my spot at POMOCO watching you play, you were always fun and exciting to watch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 30, 2006, 01:52:29 PM
About 10 minutes to go in 2nd Quarter, Averett leads Ferrum 14-0.
Ferrum 0-7 in the passing game.

Ferrum is driving on Averett's 30 yard line, they finally completed a pass.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 30, 2006, 02:33:25 PM
Halftime Averett 14 Ferrum 0.

Alot of turnovers by both teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 30, 2006, 03:13:17 PM
Quackers and Lady Lions all knotted up at 16 with 815 left in the third.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 30, 2006, 03:17:23 PM
8:55 in 4th Quarter.

Ferrum 2nd and 8 at Averett 47 yard line.

Cougars up 21-7.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 30, 2006, 03:24:55 PM
Quackers take a 23-16 lead with 315 left in the third.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 30, 2006, 03:30:18 PM
Ferrum's scores to cut the lead to 21-14 with 5 left in the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 30, 2006, 03:33:40 PM
Going down to the wire.

Ferrum has the ball, 2 time outs left.
Cougars up 21-14.

1st down Ferrum at Averett 49.

1:48 left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 30, 2006, 03:40:34 PM
Averett holds and is kneeing the ball.

28 seconds left.

Looks like a 21-14 Cougar victory.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 30, 2006, 04:35:54 PM
guilford wins in 2ot with a td pass
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 30, 2006, 05:02:32 PM
Quote from: rocket on September 30, 2006, 04:35:54 PM
guilford wins in 2ot with a td pass

That game should have never gotten to OT.  Last play of the game Greensboro's kicker.  Kicked a FG right off the inside part of the left upright.  Officials ruled it no good.  Could the kicker have done a better job? Yeah, but the FG was good. Officials were really good in todays game.  CNU watch out because you have a pissed of Greensboro coming into town. I wonder if there is something that can be done about that FG call.

I am waiting for the Box Score to be posted.  I want to align it with my keys I set.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 30, 2006, 05:17:39 PM
Maryville's Web site is saying that the Scots beat the Bishops 50-48 in 4 overtimes!

I bet that would've been an awesome game to be at.  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 30, 2006, 06:25:29 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 29, 2006, 02:11:49 PM
Keys to Victory the Souper Bowl (I guess I might start doing this, every week  :) )

Greensboro

Get to the QB-Big guys in the middle playing against the smaller OL of Guilford

Stopping the Pass- Guilford's top rank passing offense vs the 10th rank pass defense.

Force Turnovers- AU picked of Vogelbach 4 times and and Greensboro leads USASC in defensive take-aways.

Guilford

Execute the run- Guilford loves to pass, but Greensboro can't stop the run.

Score First- Greensboro is 2-0 when they score first this year. 3 out of the last 4 years whichever team score first in this game won.

Don't be distracted- It's Alumni weekend, Homecoming and the dedication of the football field.

Greensboro
Get to the QB- (1 sack for 2 yd loss.  Far from steller.)

Stop the Pass-(defense kept them below that season avg.)

Force TO- 5 INT's and 1 FUM.  6 TO total.  I though there was one more but not.) +3 in TO today

Guilford

Execute the Run- 60 yards on 20 carries. Much better that first loss they had.

Score First- Gave up the safety, but had the first offensive score.

Avoid Distractions-With all the things that went on today.  Well Guilford won.


Now I want somebody to tell me that Greensboro's defense/pass defense is not that good.  Forced 6 (5 INT, more then AU) TO held them to the lowest output passing and total offense all year.  (Two things that 3  teams in the USASAC couldn't do.)  Watch out USASAC. ;) ;D :D
Title: De - Fense
Post by: Eh-You on September 30, 2006, 07:07:44 PM
Averett's defense has proven in the last game and a half that they can shutdown passing whackos and running whackos. (which are both equally mind blowing, I might add) You guys are all stats hungry so I hope you see what the Cougars did to "unstoppable" Pitts and the gang, in what was sure to be a "wild shootout". The Mt. Union and Wesley experiences are paying off. Nov. 4 @ CNU for the whole thing. Careful about sleeping on the AU defense!

BBall Guy - Here's something else for your stat hunger - AU got a "W" against Guilford. G'boro got an "L". Are those to stats as important in Gboro basketball as they are to most football teams? As for your FG situation - I would hope your self - proclaimed 1st team all conf. kicker didn't miss ANOTHER clutch kick! How did I guess you would find some way to whine about officials? Can't wait for the Pride to get its shot against one of the big dogs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 30, 2006, 07:22:42 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 30, 2006, 05:02:32 PM
Officials were really good in todays game. 

Eh-you

I thought it was a really good game.  I thought they missed the last call.  I am not complaining at all. Just Coach Mitchell was pissed.  He pulled out the rule book on that call.  I didn't.  I seriously thought it was even called game.  I agreed with every penalty that was called.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on September 30, 2006, 08:15:28 PM
What does the rulebook have to do with it?  If it went over the cross bar it is good but if it went under it is no good.  Does not matter if it hit the posts or crossbar.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 30, 2006, 09:00:45 PM
Quote from: TXMike on September 30, 2006, 08:15:28 PM
What does the rulebook have to do with it?  If it went over the cross bar it is good but if it went under it is no good.  Does not matter if it hit the posts or crossbar.
It went off the left inside of the upright. It was called no good.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 30, 2006, 09:03:41 PM
Finally!!! CNU scores again....up 17-3 4:45 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on September 30, 2006, 09:04:49 PM
Regadless of what it went off. did it end up going through?  If they ruled it no good they must have ruled it went outside the upright.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 30, 2006, 09:15:24 PM
honestly, if an official screwed up a fg call, there is no excuse for that, and quite honestly, i don't see how that's possible with where they are positioned...are you absolutely certain it went through prideguy?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 30, 2006, 09:16:26 PM
I like the SU live stats page. CNU should have that! Good job.

CNU D wins the game as the O struggles with 3 turnovers. First win for CNU @ SU!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on September 30, 2006, 09:21:22 PM
News story on the Greensboro game says kick hit the TOP of the left upright and went over.  If that means it went over the upright then the kick is no good.  Must go between the uprights (or the uprights "extended"). 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 30, 2006, 09:22:44 PM
i wonder if sports illustrated will put vogelbach in faces in the crowd for all the int's he's thrown the last  few games like they did after he opened the season with 2 straight 400+ yard games :)

5 int's...wow - great job lady lion defense!

the monarchs got an unimpressive offensive performance and an outstanding defensive performance today, winning 16-8 @ ehc...i wish i could combine the defense this year from the offense last year...that would be one hell of a team - i still think the offense will come around, though

cougars are on the clock...hopefully the offense will get things right this week :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 30, 2006, 09:45:02 PM
It hit the top, and top meaning not at the bottom.  It was on the inside of the upright at the top.  We had fans standing behind the uprights said it went through.  I heard after the game that an official said it went through. (He wasn't one of the ones behind the goal post.  He was on our sideline. They had a conference for about 5 minutes before OT started.  :-\  It may have been a rival, but not a conference game.  We will get CNU next weekend.  (Pride was down 14 points in the 4th quarter.  Last years team would not have pulled that off.)

Greensboro can put up points in a hurry too.  28 seconds.  (ok it was Guilford  ;D).  Just hope the defenses show up.  ;)  ;D

Plus held Vogelbach to his lowest completion % on the year
Title: Just the offense??????
Post by: Eh-You on September 30, 2006, 09:49:28 PM
If I were a MC fan I would hope all 3 phases would get things right. The AU offense is deadly, the D has been shutting folks down. and special teams the last 2 weeks have won them games. AU by 3 scores, on the road, sitting in the home bleachers  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 30, 2006, 09:50:07 PM

On the FG that Greensboro kicked to win the game . . .

The ball hit near the top left INSIDE of the left upright. The ball, as footballs tend to do, took a funny bounce to the left, but passed through the INSIDE of the upright.  I was standing on the sideline at the 15 yard line, on the right side and clearly saw the ball on the inside of the upright.  The ball ended up to the left of the uprights, but PAST the uprights. Since the ball hit the INSIDE of the upright, and did not bounce back onto the field, but bounced through the uprights, it was a good field goal. It does not matter where the ball ended up, but whether it passed through the uprights - which it did. The film should show it. The people behind the back of the endzone signalled it as a field goal - but not the refs, and they are the only ones that count. But The Pride should have won it in the first OT . . . . but . . .

On the first play in the first OT the ref calls a CHOP BLOCK? Fifteen yards and out of field goal range (which would have won it at that point).

Second OT . . . on the second play the ref calls holding and moves us out of field goal range again. Pride offense moves it close enough for a 42 yarder that missed. BTW, Quakers played the immaculate game in the OT - no penalties.  ::)

And whoever said the refs' calls were not part of the game wasn't there for the end of this one!!

Should of, could of, would of . . . .game is over. Lessons learned . . . . no more whining :'( and we gotta win the next one without having to depend on a last minute TD drive to tie like we've done twice this year! I've got nothing else to say about this game - we'll get to play them again next year.

===============================================

OK - what's the spread now on the CNU game?    >:(

Hopefully The Pride won't suffer a let down over the way this one ended. Taking out some anger in Virginia is a pretty good idea, but it will take more than that! We've got to stop dropping passes, fumbling the ball and getting INTs returned for TDs ! ! ! ! And the defense has to keep playing the calibre of football they've been playing . . . .





ROLL PRIDE ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 30, 2006, 10:26:09 PM
boys, remember, there is no view of a fg like the one the officials have - those angles can play some serious tricks on your eyes, especially if you're wearing those green tinted glasses :)

if there is a chop block or a hold on a play, it's a penalty, regardless of when it's called
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 30, 2006, 10:27:05 PM
d3newbie-

I would rather see last drive comebacks (even better if we win).  Then to watch us give up once we get down by 2 TD's.  Something we/I have seen over the last few years :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 30, 2006, 10:45:50 PM
Greensboro's kick to win with 5.2 seconds to go did NOT glance off the side of the left upright and go inside the post.  It hit directly on TOP of the left upright (which is only a 4" diameter circle!) and was, therefore, not good.  That was the game report and that's also what was clearly visible from my vantage point.  The referees made the correct call.  I know the Pride fans wanted it to be good, but it was not.  You're right, however, the game should never have gone to OT.  Guilford should have put it away when they were up 30-16 and also when they had a chance to go up 33-23 with a FG with 3:30 minutes to go.  Whoever on the Guilford staff called that ill-fated fake FG (or at least that's what it appeared to be!) should be kicked throught the uprights!   A ten point lead means the Pride would have had to score twice to win or send it to OT.  It was about a 39-yarder and Quaker kicker Travis Frazier can make those all day long.   Anyway, the Pride is a fine team, but the end of regulation and the two OT's were fair and square.   Guilford played sloppily at times, especially on the two fumbles that allowed Greensboro to start with a safety and then get a TD on a 20-yard drive.   The Pride played well, so I hope no one will diminish that by making a claim about the missed FG attempt.  It was not inside the upright.  I see the Pride continuing to have a good season and I hope they do.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 30, 2006, 10:57:47 PM
nova-

Good to meet you today. Great game.  Guilford should have put it away.  Before they even got a chance to do that FG.  I guess they have no faith in that running because they left way too much time on the clock.  We ended up scoring twice, after that.  I guess Guilford didn't think that being last place in the conference (USASAC) in stopping the run meant anything at all. :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 30, 2006, 11:38:26 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 30, 2006, 10:57:47 PM
nova-

Good to meet you today. Great game.  Guilford should have put it away.  Before they even got a chance to do that FG.  I guess they have no faith in that running because they left way too much time on the clock.  We ended up scoring twice, after that.  I guess Guilford didn't think that being last place in the conference (USASAC) in stopping the run meant anything at all. :-\
Good to meet you too, Pride.  Guilford has some obvious weaknesses in their game, so it forces coaches to make unorthodox choices at times.  I still don't understand the fake FG attempt.  lol  Thanks for chatting today and thanks also for bringing all those canned goods!  What a stack you guys had under your tent.  All it all it was a beautiful day for football - too bad anyone had to lose!  By the way, did you see Dave Odom and Tony Womack today?  Womack's Lamborghini was something to see.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 01, 2006, 09:36:39 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 30, 2006, 11:38:26 PM
Good to meet you too, Pride.  Guilford has some obvious weaknesses in their game, so it forces coaches to make unorthodox choices at times.  I still don't understand the fake FG attempt.  lol  Thanks for chatting today and thanks also for bringing all those canned goods!  What a stack you guys had under your tent.  All it all it was a beautiful day for football - too bad anyone had to lose!  By the way, did you see Dave Odom and Tony Womack today?  Womack's Lamborghini was something to see.

Thanks.  Those cans were just used to get us in to the game.  My group/fraternity rasied 500 cans on itself.  No, I didn't see neither Mr. Odom or Mr. Womack.  Can't see much from the visitor bleachers ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 01, 2006, 05:47:58 PM
Ferrum lost yesterday and now has 3 losses.  Are they going to win the conference now?  They were the conference favorite by many.  Based on last year 3 losses doesn't win the conference.  Or is this conference balanced enough where having 5 losses can still win the conference like at the turn of the century.  My take is the conference is more balanced, but I don't think having 3 losses will win the conference. Someone not picked to win will win.  (AU most likely picked to finish 3rd)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 01, 2006, 06:14:12 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 01, 2006, 05:47:58 PM
They were the conference favorite by many.

Who exactly had them as the favorite?....and please don't say the coaches poll. I'm certain that the coaches themselves don't put too much stock into who is picked and how the results turn out. And just so we're clear, Don Hansen doesn't count, either.  ;)

I doubt AU will be third. I think CNU is the only team that can beat the Cougars, and CNU certainly has the advantage playing the game at home. But those two teams are Nos. 1 and 2 in the USA South this year. BBallGuy, I know that you've stopped paying much worth to AU, but the fact is that after two killer games against very very tough teams, Averett is having a pretty swell season.

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 01, 2006, 05:47:58 PM
Based on last year 3 losses doesn't win the conference.

And for the record, though it's not last year, Shenandoah won the USAC as a three-loss team in 2004. It all comes down to how a team performs when the conference games start rolling.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on October 01, 2006, 06:34:52 PM
For those that like pictures I have posted pictures of the CNU/SU game on Saturday.     http://www.fivemics.net/Shenandoah-2006.html.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 01, 2006, 06:44:51 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on October 01, 2006, 06:14:12 PM
Who exactly had them as the favorite?....and please don't say the coaches poll. I'm certain that the coaches themselves don't put too much stock into who is picked and how the results turn out. And just so we're clear, Don Hansen doesn't count, either.  ;)

Yes, why not use the poll. ;) Yeah I understand the poll as little to no meaning in this conference. (Basketball Polls are usually dead on here) Coaches should have an idea, like the rest of the coaches in this conference:-\.  Just real disappointed that GC was picked last.  I think most of us would agree over the past couple of weeks that GC is not a last place team.  (I won't let that go until the season is over.  Ya'll will be hearing that the whole season)  I think this conference is balanced more then everyone else thinks.  Maybe a 3 loss team can win it. I am still not high on AU.  I was earlier this season,  I just expected them to have closer games against those early out of conference games.  I think CNU would have played closer.  Which is why CNU is still my favorite to win it.  (Just not to win this weekend  ;))
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 01, 2006, 08:03:51 PM
For purposes of discussion, I think you can use ODAC member Guilford as a bit of a barometer for strength in the USASAC.  The Quakers went 3-1 against Ferrum (W 49-35 Home), Methodist (W 27-13 Away), Averett (L 34-54 Away) and Greensboro (W 36-30 2OT Home).  I attended three of the four games and Averett looked the strongest to me.  Guilford has an annoying way of making games they win closer than they should be and making games they lose have a larger final margin than they should have been, but the Cougars impressed me the most.  Mainly, I think AU has a great QB, running game and return men.  Those three elements of their team did us in on Sept. 16.
Title: Bball guy - where do you come up with this stuff??????????????????????????
Post by: Eh-You on October 01, 2006, 09:18:53 PM
Not high on AU, but high on Gboro and the "balanced" USA-South? Averett destroyed the team that Gboro just lost to. The only balance I've seen is that of G'boro and Southern Virginia and the odds of you complaining about everything under the sun when the Pride takes a loss.

As for your comment about staying close in non conference games:

The Cougars got blasted by Mt. Union - I'm pretty convinced you either don't know enough about or haven't seen Mt. Union play. The level of football that we jaw back and forth about is like apples and oranges compared to the Purple Raiders. As for the Wesley game - it was a 4 point game in the 4th quarter - #5 (6 now) team in the country - on the road (a long way from home), and the better team pulled away late. I think the Cougars learned a lot from the experiences as is evidenced by their next two games. When Greensboro has the guts to play somebody like Mt. Union or Wesley then run your mouth, until then nothing you say makes any sense b/c Gboro has no out of conference experience for you to draw on. (but let me guess - you can't schedule those guys b/c football officials hate Gboro or some other lame excuse)

I have never pulled for CNU any harder than I will this weekend. You are getting ready to see that this conference is not balanced. And when you come to Danville in 3 weeks you are going to leave a believer. I would love to put a small agreement on the AU / Gboro game. B/T you and I - no posting from the person whose team loses that game from the final whistle until the following Saturday AM. Do you believe in your Lady Lions that much?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 01, 2006, 09:28:26 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 01, 2006, 06:44:51 PM
Just real disappointed that GC was picked last.  I think most of us would agree over the past couple of weeks that GC is not a last place team.  (I won't let that go until the season is over.  Ya'll will be hearing that the whole season)

last i checked, the season wasn't over yet...there is still plenty of time for the lady lions to finish last - at this stage, the ONLY thing that gc has shown is that they were better than m'ville on the day they played...it's still entirely possible, maybe even plausible, that gc could lose every remaining conference game and finish in last place - i'm not saying it WILL happen, just that it still could...you seem to be counting a lot of chickens that haven't yet hatched

here's the monarch game story (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=243397) from the fayetteville observer...not sure if parks replacing bartee was a temporary thing to spark the offense or if it was due to injury or if this is a permanent thing, but he did throw the first passing td of the season for the monarchs and his season line is pretty tidy: 6-7, 63 yds, 1 td - it could be a good thing for the monarchs to have a qb platoon, of sorts - florida is doing pretty well with a chris leak/tim tebow combination :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 01, 2006, 10:01:04 PM
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2006, 09:28:26 PM
last i checked, the season wasn't over yet...there is still plenty of time for the lady lions to finish last - at this stage, the ONLY thing that gc has shown is that they were better than m'ville on the day they played...it's still entirely possible, maybe even plausible, that gc could lose every remaining conference game and finish in last place - i'm not saying it WILL happen, just that it still could...you seem to be counting a lot of chickens that haven't yet hatched

Narch- last time I checked greensboro has never finished in last place and eveybody seems to think that its going to happen this year.  That is what i have said the whole season. I am not counting my chickens before they hath.

be reminded that SU went from first to last in one year. Don't think those near the top will finish near the top. Many other people are counting those chickens too.

Quote from: Eh-You on October 01, 2006, 09:18:53 PM
Not high on AU, but high on Gboro and the "balanced" USA-South? Averett destroyed the team that Gboro just lost to.

As for your comment about staying close in non conference games:

The Cougars got blasted by Mt. Union - I'm pretty convinced you either don't know enough about or haven't seen Mt. Union play. The level of football that we jaw back and forth about is like apples and oranges compared to the Purple Raiders. As for the Wesley game - it was a 4 point game in the 4th quarter - #5 (6 now) team in the country - on the road (a long way from home), and the better team pulled away late. I think the Cougars learned a lot from the experiences as is evidenced by their next two games. When Greensboro has the guts to play somebody like Mt. Union or Wesley then run your mouth, until then nothing you say makes any sense b/c Gboro has no out of conference experience for you to draw on. (but let me guess - you can't schedule those guys b/c football officials hate Gboro or some other lame excuse)

I have never pulled for CNU any harder than I will this weekend. You are getting ready to see that this conference is not balanced. And when you come to Danville in 3 weeks you are going to leave a believer. I would love to put a small agreement on the AU / Gboro game. B/T you and I - no posting from the person whose team loses that game from the final whistle until the following Saturday AM. Do you believe in your Lady Lions that much?

AU playing against Guilford at home gave up over 500 yds through the air.  Only picked off GC 4 times.  We held them to the lowest offensive output plus picked them off 5 times.  You blew them away. Got some lucky breaks.  Most teams would not win giving up that many yards.  I will give you credit.  Then you beat FC.  Good job. (Who also lost to Guilford, by more then what greensboro just did)

As one of the supreme teams in the conference.  I think CNU would have played MU and WC better then AU.  AU is a good team.  Greensboro is better then last year. The series is tied 3-3. (lost to your AU team by 1 last year we finished 7th.)  AU is not the best team in the conference.  CNU is.

and I will take you up on the AU/GC game bit.  Good luck in 3 weeks.

Might I add that GC was the only team to beat SU in 2004 from the USASAC.  We sucked that year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 01, 2006, 11:06:18 PM
BBallguy...the only person who keeps bringing up gboro being voted last or finishing last is you. 

Maybe CNU does play Mt Union or Wesley better than AU did or maybe they don't...point is AU had the guts to play them (as has CNU) and I'm sure they will benefit from it.  I wish Methodist would take a similiar approach to scheduling but until they do I am certainly not going to run my mouth about how other USASAC teams lost to teams in the top tier of d3 fooball.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 01, 2006, 11:31:24 PM
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2006, 09:28:26 PM
there is still plenty of time for the lady lions to finish last

I am not the only one.

I only bring up scores,  When the scores are brought up.  Defense win championships.  I am skeptical of AU's defense.  Grant it they won against guilford while giving up so many yards.  Great team in AU.  I just don't know if it will hold up on the season, to get them a conference championship status. Greensboro may not have scheduled those schools.  (MU is better then the teams Greensboro has scheduled, but good teams don't want to play you if you have been a bad team over the years.)  Greensboro scheduled the top rushing team in D-2 and last year D-1AA team.  Best we can do.)

If Greensboro gets blown out against CNU.  I will be much more neutral on this board.  (That could change if we beat them, or FC, or AU .)

Hold me to that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 02, 2006, 12:08:07 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 01, 2006, 10:01:04 PM
last time I checked greensboro has never finished in last place and eveybody seems to think that its going to happen this year.

I seemed to have missed this whole cadre of people who think Gboro should be last. Where was that again? As someone who isn't sold on the Pride, my point wouldn't be that Greensboro will be the last place team in the conference but rather that I don't expect them to be in the top spot. In fact, right now, I'd say they're definitely going to lose three games: to CNU, AU and FC. Christopher Newport and Averett are just way too good for the Pride, and Ferrum's run game is stellar. And BBallGuy, you've said it yourself that Gboro's weakness is it's run defense.

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 01, 2006, 10:01:04 PM
AU playing against Guilford at home gave up over 500 yds through the air.  Only picked off GC 4 times.  We held them to the lowest offensive output plus picked them off 5 times.  You blew them away. Got some lucky breaks.  Most teams would not win giving up that many yards.  I will give you credit.  Then you beat FC.  Good job. (Who also lost to Guilford, by more then what greensboro just did)

Yeah, I'm sure this victory was all "luck." Not likely. Things changed a lot after the half, and no matter what the yardage count was, the Cougars held the Quakers to, what, 6 points in the second half. AU's season has been going uphill since then. But if you want to talk yards, when was the last time a team held Ferrum to less than 200 rushing yards the way that Averett did. Do not underestimate the Cougars, my friend.

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 01, 2006, 11:31:24 PM
Greensboro may not have scheduled those schools.  (MU is better then the teams Greensboro has scheduled, but good teams don't want to play you if you have been a bad team over the years.)

It's not a matter of good teams not playing crummier ones. Most of the weaker teams are fearful of playing the big guys. Mount Union has struggled year in and year out to find a team to play. They would've played anyone who had the courage to say "yes." Averett had that courage this year, and it's paying off. CNU has been doing great these past couple of years putting some tough games on the schedule, too. And for a further reason that you can't say a good team won't play a bad team: Bridgewater did play LaGrange this year, didn't they? I'm sure Clark was pretty confident that that game was an automatic W for the Eagles.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 02, 2006, 12:29:14 AM

I think this question got lost in the shuffle of the dueling posts . . .

How much do you think CNU will beat Greensboro by?

Also:
Is CNU a running team, passing team or more balanced? What are they averaging per game rushing? Passing? Who do you think will be the CNU MVP in the Greensboro game?


Thanks, Narch and Hasanova for the nice things you said about The Pride.  :o 

Hopefully The Pride will surprise somebody this year in the conference - and maybe more than just once.  ???

Greensboro is really the only team I know much about in the conference, so that is who I will be talking about - and maybe their opponents. But I enjoy the banter. What else can wannabees and hasbeens do for fun ? ? ? ;D

BTW, I'm thinking about driving up for the game this weekend - any traveling tips I need to know?



ROLL PRIDE ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 02, 2006, 12:31:47 AM

Legacy - are you affiliated with Wabash College?  I have a friend I used to coach with that played there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 02, 2006, 12:40:47 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 02, 2006, 12:31:47 AM

Legacy - are you affiliated with Wabash College?  I have a friend I used to coach with that played there.

It's my alma mater, which is the best affiliation I can think of  ;)  but I live in Chesapeake now, so I only get back to campus about once a year (for the Wabash-DePauw game). When was your friend playing there?

Re CNU: The Captains have some nice balance to their offense. In their first two games, they were negative in rush yards and used their passing game to move the ball. In their second two game, it was all about the ground attack, which was the bulk of their offense then.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 02, 2006, 12:58:38 AM
Pete Metzelaars - I think he's coaching with the Colts now. He was Offensive Coordinator and I coached Dline and LBs at a local HS here about eight years ago.

He then went on to coach with former Buffalo & Carolina QB Frank Reich's brother, Joe, at Wingate University (DII) where Pete's son is QBing this year as a fifth-year senior.

Great guy, great athlete! I haven't seen him since he left the area a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 02, 2006, 01:04:51 AM
D3Newbie
To anwser your questions

I think if greensboro loses,  it will be within the spread of what legacy said. I think 10pts.  (I will always root for GC to win.  I will give my keys to the game, later this week.  I think they match-up well.)

CNU is a defensive team.  They have always been as far as I know.  Based on stats they are a balanced (They have ran the ball more but have had little success.  They rank dead last in rushing offense.  Based on stats prior to this weekend) Plays into GC's favor.

CNU's MVP would be Roland Hillard.  If they are able to run the ball.

d3newbie- I will be at this game.  I am traveling up there.  I am leaving about mid-day friday.  Tips-avoid the traffic.
Title: Re: Greensboro and USASAC predictions
Post by: hasanova on October 02, 2006, 09:01:07 AM
D3newbie, you're welcome.  I try to be as honest as I can be about play on both sides of the ball.  Torrey Lowe, for example, is a fine player.  I believe he could play for almost anyone.  He ran for a TD, caught clutch passes and threw a 33-yard TD.  What a boxscore!  I'm still not sold on Greensboro's QB platoon system, but both certainly do a credible job - albeit with different skill sets - when they're in the game.   The Pride punting game did an outstanding job on Saturday, but, obviously, the FG attempts that went awry were keys to the game.

I know it's dangerous to play the "comparative score" game because there are so many factors that go into each game.  GC/GC, for example, is a real rivalry game.  MC had a true freshman QB playing his first college game when they played Guilford.  Then there's the weather, injuries, venue, and so forth.  Having said all that, it looks to me as though CNU will be the team to beat in the USASAC.   Then, in order, I see AU, FC, MC, NCWC, Greensboro, Maryville and SU, although I think the 4-7 slots are up for grabs or could be ties.     I'm basing that on three things:  head-to-head scores, the four teams that have played Guilford and USASAC performance versus ranked opponents.  Just my two cents worth, so feel free to disagree - and I'm sure some of you will!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 02, 2006, 09:16:06 AM
nova-

I can't disagree.  I think the 4-7 spots, are up for grabs.  The whole year I have been questioning this two QB sitiuation.  Each do have strengths.  Sometimes I think GC should keep one of them in after a good drive/scoring drive.  Help keep that momentum they built on GC's side not to rely on the other QB to keep it up.  If we can win doing it, my all means continue.  It forces teams to prepare for two QB's IMO.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 02, 2006, 09:57:06 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 02, 2006, 12:58:38 AM
Pete Metzelaars - I think he's coaching with the Colts now. He was Offensive Coordinator and I coached Dline and LBs at a local HS here about eight years ago.

He then went on to coach with former Buffalo & Carolina QB Frank Reich's brother, Joe, at Wingate University (DII) where Pete's son is QBing this year as a fifth-year senior.

Great guy, great athlete! I haven't seen him since he left the area a couple of years ago.

Oh, wow! I never would've guessed that you were going to say that Metzelaars was your coaching buddy. Very cool! He's nothing short of legendary at Wabash.

I had the good fortune of meeting him eight or nine years ago while I was working for the student newspaper. He was on campus for an alumni basketball game/fundraiser, and I got to snap a couple of photos of him and chat a bit. He was a lot of fun to talk to!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 02, 2006, 10:00:08 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 02, 2006, 12:29:14 AM

I think this question got lost in the shuffle of the dueling posts . . .

How much do you think CNU will beat Greensboro by?

Also:
Is CNU a running team, passing team or more balanced? What are they averaging per game rushing? Passing? Who do you think will be the CNU MVP in the Greensboro game?


Thanks, Narch and Hasanova for the nice things you said about The Pride.  :o 

Hopefully The Pride will surprise somebody this year in the conference - and maybe more than just once.  ???

Greensboro is really the only team I know much about in the conference, so that is who I will be talking about - and maybe their opponents. But I enjoy the banter. What else can wannabees and hasbeens do for fun ? ? ? ;D

BTW, I'm thinking about driving up for the game this weekend - any traveling tips I need to know?



ROLL PRIDE ! ! !  

CNU is definitely more balanced after four games of the year. At Rowan and home against Mary Hardin-Baylor, the Captains had a rough time running the ball, which does in fact key their offense. At Salisbury, it was raining and focused more on the their ground game, which is why Hilliard ran for more than 200 yards. And at Shenandoah, the air game wasnt working (two picks by the QB) so Kelchner focused more on exploiting SU's run defense and Hilliard ran for 123.

The key for the Captains I think its being balanced. If they cant pass and come up against a decent run defense, they could find themselves in trouble. CNU has three excellent receivers in George Jones, Matt Hightower and Curfew Speight, those guys know how to catch, its up to Faison having the confidence to stand tall and find the open man.

As for tips on the area, what do you want to know? I live in Williamsburg, just 30 mins from CNU and can help you out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 02, 2006, 10:11:19 AM
The way AU is rolling lately the Monarchs better be able to establish the run game early and use some ball control offense to keep the Cougars off the field.  Considering how AU stopped FC's running game that could be one tall order.

The next 3 weeks are gonna be tough for the Monarchs, at least they play AU and FC at home before traveling to CNU.  This is when we are gonna find out what they are made of.  Hopefully they can sneak out a win or two.  If nothing else this stretch should season whatever young QB is taking the snaps.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 02, 2006, 01:10:25 PM
From what I've seen and heard on the radio, Hightower has caught the cold more times than he has the ball. He seems to drop a lot.....and a few of the bobbles have led to INTs.

Travelling tips for the PRide faithful.......bring tissues...for the cry home!!

Seriously - I live about 2 miles from campus.....whatya need to know? It's an easy drive until you have to decide if you want to cross over on 58 or head up to Petersburg and take 295 to 64. Everyone has a preference. I always choose 58....mostly because of the scenery...much better than a concrete slab of interstate. Have any of you been up here before?

I used to tailgate until one weekend a few years back when we played Rowan and all these CNU faithful fans were supposed to show up....the only people to show were JT and his wife from Rowan....how embarassing was that????

If you have a really nice pair of digital headphones, you might be able to hear the game on 99.1 (which is in Gloucester and sometimes hard to pick up - what's up with that?).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 02, 2006, 01:26:40 PM
I hope no one thinks that CNU will blow out the Pride.  I just don't see it happening.  We are on pace to force 45 TO this year.  (I think most in conference history)  Plus throw 26 less interceptions that were thrown last year.  This team can force TO and holds on the ball alot better this year then last.  (If you don't have the ball you can't score)  I will give my prediction for all the games this weekend by Thursday.  How to you all think CNU will beat the Pride.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 02, 2006, 01:47:06 PM
Great stats...but look at the competition......The Pride needed OT to win at home vs Maryville and barely eeked out a 1 point win at home against Southern Virginia. Then, you lost on the road to a team that was .500 last year. The Pride is GREATLY improved over last year, but the stats will start to even out once teams like CNU, Ferrum, and AU line up against the Pride. The toughest part of your schedule is about to begin!! You'll surprise a few teams....let's see which ones!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 02, 2006, 01:59:42 PM
If GC was playing at home I would say they could keep it close but POMOCO is one tough place to play.  The Captains are like a school of sharks in there...they smell blood and go into a frenzy. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: JAF on October 02, 2006, 03:07:40 PM
QuoteCaptains are like a school of sharks in there...they smell blood and go into a frenzy.

That's a great description and I can't wait to witness the frenzy on Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 02, 2006, 03:08:24 PM
CNU85-

I see your point about competition.  Here is how I will argue.  GC played Mars Hill by no chance is great but among the top rushing teams in DII (Helping them get ready for FC I guess  :-\)  GC lost to Maryville last year.  We were picked off 7 times.  (Not holding onto the ball.)  Beat Maryville in OT right (Blew a 16-0 halftime lead).  Maryville beat NCWC in 4OT's.  I think that was a surprise by many.  (Can't compare the conference games this year)  GC held Guilford to the lowest offensive total of the year. Plus the lowest halftime score of the year.)  Greensboro blew another lead.  But in 9 mins scored 14 points.  Had a chance to win it with 5 seconds left.  (Missed a disputed FG)

I looked over the CNU games the past few years.  GC has spotted CNU a two or more score lead in the first Qtr several times the past few years.  For the most part the stats were nothing spectacular.  (Execept that 42-7 CNU victory)

The game will be won in the 3rd qtr.  Neither team plays well in that qtr this year.

Everyone can argue that CNU doesn't play well a Shentel.  That game was too close this past Saturday.  You all know that.

Who is going to be at that game? I will be there.  (I think you will see the best secondary in the conference come to town.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 02, 2006, 03:17:46 PM
I guess Ill show up, if I have to. Find CNU85 and sit in his prime Vice Admiral seats!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 02, 2006, 03:38:30 PM
Too funny Goose!!!!!!!

Best Secondary in the Conf???? I would think Mssrs Long and All-American Rob Rod would have something to say about that!

We'll see this Saturday. That's why they blow the whistle and kick it off! I'll post my prediction Saturday before the game.....don't want to get the {Pride fired up!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 02, 2006, 03:39:43 PM
Oh goose......my left knee is on one side of the 50 and my right knee on the other......and I'm in the shade for the entire game!!!! Very good Vice Admiral seats indeed.


and lest you forget...it's CNU85, Sir!

:o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 02, 2006, 05:19:52 PM
All I am going to say to the Gboro faithful is that you have a tremendous task ahead of you this week. CNU has only lost 1 conf game at home and that was the very first conf game in team history. You would have to be a Captain to know what it feels like to wake up on a Saturday morning and go play in front of a packed house at Pomoco. It is the ultimate home field advantage as someone else on here made reference to earlier. And with that being said, I think Saturday might be a long day for the improving pride.

FINALLY THE MONKEY IS OFF OF THE CAPTAINS BACK. WE BEAT SU AT SHENTEL STADIUM.

If anyone thought that there wasn't really a curse when CNU plays at SU then just look at last weeks game. SU is a horrible team (no disrespect) and CNU only won 17-3. Its crazy how poorly we seem to play down there year after year.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 02, 2006, 06:24:12 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 02, 2006, 05:19:52 PM
FINALLY THE MONKEY IS OFF OF THE CAPTAINS BACK. WE BEAT SU AT SHENTEL STADIUM.

Then there is a first for everything then in this conference ;).  Believe me I am very aware, of the CNU situation at the home field.  It is a tremendous task for GBoro.  Plus CNU being ranked. I am excited to be heading up that way for the game.  If crowd noise is an issue.  Well one of starting QB here.  Started 5 games for NC A&T in 2003 (The championship seson) I think he can handle the noise IMO.  It is a different team heading up that way.

Advice:  Where is the best place to park?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 02, 2006, 07:46:22 PM
There's really only two lots, and one of them you have to be a Vice Admiral or higher to get in to!! Best place to park is out front of the Freeman Center, that's off University Place which is a turn off of Warwick Blvd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 02, 2006, 07:48:51 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 02, 2006, 01:04:51 AM
D3Newbie
To anwser your questions

I think if greensboro loses,  it will be within the spread of what legacy said. I think 10pts.  (I will always root for GC to win.  I will give my keys to the game, later this week.  I think they match-up well.)

CNU is a defensive team.  They have always been as far as I know.  Based on stats they are a balanced (They have ran the ball more but have had little success.  They rank dead last in rushing offense.  Based on stats prior to this weekend) Plays into GC's favor.

CNU's MVP would be Roland Hillard.  If they are able to run the ball.

d3newbie- I will be at this game.  I am traveling up there.  I am leaving about mid-day friday.  Tips-avoid the traffic.


I as well will be making the trip. I am going with the team up there. But I agree with the Pirde if we lose, it will not be a blow out I think it will be a close game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 02, 2006, 07:51:34 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 02, 2006, 07:46:22 PM
There's really only two lots, and one of them you have to be a Vice Admiral or higher to get in to!! Best place to park is out front of the Freeman Center, that's off University Place which is a turn off of Warwick Blvd.

Thanks, Goose.  I am very aware of the campus.  I have made many trips to to watch the conference championships at the Freeman Center.  Just wasn't sure of the best parking for the stadium was.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 02, 2006, 08:02:29 PM
Hey guys when yall were talkin about the best secondary in the confernce I agree just look at the cumlative conf. stats you see all but like 2 in the top GC Players. And in the turnover margin we lead that too so all of this crap about not having the best secondary and I would have to say one of the best def. in the conf. is totaly true THE STATS DONT LIE so read them then say something
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 02, 2006, 08:05:04 PM
Hey CNU guys by looking at the stats, you are getting most of your points from your defense and not your offence WHAT IS THAT!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 02, 2006, 08:57:22 PM
Gullet-

So the offense isn't scoring for CNU.  No big deal.  They are 3-1 and ranked #21.  We will see if that has any effect on the game on saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 03, 2006, 12:33:00 AM
Thats why football is the ultimate team sport. Most defensive players do not play offense and vice versa unlike in basketball or baseball. Like you said the team is 3-1 not the defense is 3-1 and the offense 1-3.  A win is a win and as long as CNU keeps getting them Im sure coach K will be just fine with that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 03, 2006, 06:44:57 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 02, 2006, 09:16:06 AM
The whole year I have been questioning this two QB sitiuation.  Each do have strengths.  Sometimes I think GC should keep one of them in after a good drive/scoring drive.  Help keep that momentum they built on GC's side not to rely on the other QB to keep it up.  If we can win doing it, my all means continue.  It forces teams to prepare for two QB's IMO.

PrideGuy -

I've never known a platooning QB system to win any championships, but it is nice to have the ability to switch. However, I agree that it seems just when one QB is getting into his rhythm, he has to sit three series (2 for opponents) before he gets back in. Then he has to try to pick up right where he left off.  I'm not sure about the 'every other series no matter what' choice and like better the idea that whichever one is hot, ride that one for awhile before switching.  :-\ Still, alternating does force teams to prepare for two QBs and one may do better against certain defenses. But it would be nice if one of them would really step up to lead the team this season. IMHO  8)






ROLL PRIDE ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 03, 2006, 06:59:43 AM
QuoteSeriously - I live about 2 miles from campus.....whatya need to know? It's an easy drive until you have to decide if you want to cross over on 58 or head up to Petersburg and take 295 to 64. Everyone has a preference. I always choose 58....mostly because of the scenery...much better than a concrete slab of interstate. Have any of you been up here before?

QuoteIf you have a really nice pair of digital headphones, you might be able to hear the game on 99.1 (which is in Gloucester and sometimes hard to pick up - what's up with that?).

QuoteThere's really only two lots, and one of them you have to be a Vice Admiral or higher to get in to!! Best place to park is out front of the Freeman Center, that's off University Place which is a turn off of Warwick Blvd.

Thanks, Goose & CNU85, for the good travel info - that's what I was looking for.
BTW, any recommendations on a can't miss stop to eat?  I usually go for the cheaper hole-in-the-wall places that only locals know about. :P

And thanks for the info on CNU's team. It sounds GC just might match up pretty good against CNU. We won't know until they play the game, but it should be entertaining!!  ;D





ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 03, 2006, 07:04:10 AM
HEY!!!  :o WHO DINGED ME ? ?  :( WHAT DID I SAY ?  >:( Somebody took my karma . . . 

That hurt :'( . . . now I gotta go to work with no karma . . . :-[
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 03, 2006, 08:25:29 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 03, 2006, 06:44:57 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 02, 2006, 09:16:06 AM
The whole year I have been questioning this two QB sitiuation.  Each do have strengths.  Sometimes I think GC should keep one of them in after a good drive/scoring drive.  Help keep that momentum they built on GC's side not to rely on the other QB to keep it up.  If we can win doing it, my all means continue.  It forces teams to prepare for two QB's IMO.

PrideGuy -

I've never known a platooning QB system to win any championships, but it is nice to have the ability to switch. However, I agree that it seems just when one QB is getting into his rhythm, he has to sit three series (2 for opponents) before he gets back in. Then he has to try to pick up right where he left off.  I'm not sure about the 'every other series no matter what' choice and like better the idea that whichever one is hot, ride that one for awhile before switching.  :-\ Still, alternating does force teams to prepare for two QBs and one may do better against certain defenses. But it would be nice if one of them would really step up to lead the team this season. IMHO  8)

ROLL PRIDE ! ! !



The 2004 Stagg Bowl Finalist UMHB (http://www.odaconline.com/staggbowl/game04.htm) made it there with 2 QB's Josh Welch and Andy Padron.

When they (UMHB) reformated the football web page, they took away the links to the archives.  Otherwise I would link to the 2004 Season stats.

And I gave you a karma back...have a good work day.   ;) (What if you are not allowed to look at this web site at work?  Then maybe I shouldn't have?) :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 03, 2006, 09:57:47 AM
CNU guys...when I was stationed in Yorktown we used to go to this sportsbar that had some of the best wings I've ever had...I think it was called RJ's and I believe it was off of Jefferson Ave but it's been a while.  If anyone of you know what I'm talking about let me know if it's still there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 03, 2006, 10:44:15 AM
We all have our favorite local food spots. Goose can add a few, too....here's some to consider:

Seafood - Crab Shack - on the James River Pier.....right next to the James River Bridge (RT 17).
               Bill's Seafood....just south on Warwick Blvd on the left. About a mile or so from campus. Downside is that it's a family run business.....no alcohol.

My favorite seafood place is Bonefish Grill - it's owned by Outback. It's expensive - I haven't had a dinner for two for under $100. But it's nice...great bar!!! Head North on Warwick, turn left on Oyster Point...it's on the right at the first light.....about 2-3 miles from campus.

Mexican - can't go wrong with Plaza Azteca......a little north on Warwick Blvd....walking distance from
campus.

One of my favorites (if you GC guys can stomach the CNU sports pictures on the walls) is Schooners  - right there int he CNU Village shops. Great Souvlaki Sticks for an appetizer. It's on campus...so park and enjoy.

Also - in the middle of all this is the Warwick Restaurant. A local favorite for decades.....mostly the crowd is over 60 years old.....but a nice local place.

That should provide a variety of places to eat that are close by. For those coming up Friday and staying in hotels, it all depends where you are staying........tons of restaurants in Newport News (a lot of chains).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 03, 2006, 11:18:32 AM
I couldn't keep this back any longer.  Here are the Keys to the Game GC vs. CNU

Greensboro

Score First-I have looked at the past records.  GC has the uncanny ability to spot CNU points in that 1Q.  That can't happen, if they want to win.

Control the Clock-Keep the ball in the hands of the offense.  Need to wear down the defense. Get the ball however needed.  Force some TO's, just have the ball much more then CNU

Avoid costly penalties-Most penalties by any team in the conference.  Don't give CNU a short down and distance.  Don't give themselves a long down and distance.  They are playing at CNU noise could be an issue.


CNU

Run the Football- They need to get the run going.  last 2 wins Hilliard put up 120+ yards.  I am thinking 140+ will put them in good shape.

Score Often-offense hasn't been putting up very many points

Don't Turn the Ball Over-GC has been a very good at forcing TO's.  Need the ball to score. (I am expecting 3 forced TO's from GC..less will put CNU in good shape.)


CNU85-Good with the places to eat.  Whats the name of that italian place?  Fast Food Italian, that has drive thru.  Food is decent there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on October 03, 2006, 11:58:06 AM
i guess it was an alright weekend for the USASAC. From the sounds of it, Maryville and NCWC was a great game. 4 OT'S!!! wow, thats pretty awesome. also pretty tiring.

I was impressed with the parks kid from MC, he had a good game and to be a freshman to come in and go 5-6, for 69 yards and 1 TD, thats pretty good if you ask me. Emory and henry are alot better than they were last year. My buddy from high school is playin safety up there and he said it took a while to get used to Coach Montgomery's defensive style, but he said it has paid off.

Great job by averett, pretty impressive win for you guys. You did what you have to against ferrum, and thats stop the running game of Pitts.

Good job CNU, got that monkey off your back finally and won a game in shentel.

I picked a pretty good line this week, i won 3 out of 5 games i chose. and coevered spread well. I had MC by 7, they won by 8. I had CNU by 21, they won by 14. Guilford messed me up, i had them winning by 17, they only won by 6. We should keep tabs on this stuff! lol.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 03, 2006, 11:59:26 AM
FAZZOLIS!!! REAL ITALAIN FOOD FAST!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 03, 2006, 01:30:21 PM
Goose-

Sounds like you are doing a little advertising for Fazzoli's.  You getting a cut if you send people over there.  Do I tell them Goose13 sent me or CNU.  Do I get some kind of discount. ;)  ;D

If that is the case get me a discount on a hotel room too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wildbill on October 03, 2006, 03:35:47 PM
If you like BBQ, the County Grill (not far from CNU) is hard to beat.  For just a sandwich, the Subway Station is just across from the CNU campus.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 03, 2006, 11:03:38 PM
Quiet night it looks like.  Ferrum College set the record for most interceptions in a season in 2005 with 18.  Greensboro has a 11 right now they are on pace to break it this year.  I am expecting 3 against CNU this weekend.  When the best secondary steps onto the field this weekend.

Nova-
What did you think of Greensboro's Secondary this past Saturday.  I don't think I am hyping them up that much to be honest.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 04, 2006, 12:16:23 AM
Bballguy...while Gboro's secondary maybe the best in the conference...the way you are hyping them up I'm expecting Peyton Manning to state on ESPN that he's glad the Colt's don't have to play the pride  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 04, 2006, 12:50:32 AM


Quote from: admiralpapi on October 04, 2006, 12:16:23 AM
Bballguy...while Gboro's secondary maybe the best in the conference...the way you are hyping them up I'm expecting Peyton Manning to state on ESPN that he's glad the Colt's don't have to play the pride  ;D


Yeah, papi, I saw that on Sportscenter too . . . .wasn't that amazing!!   ;)






ROLL PRIDE ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 04, 2006, 10:18:11 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 03, 2006, 11:03:38 PM
Quiet night it looks like.  Ferrum College set the record for most interceptions in a season in 2005 with 18.  Greensboro has a 11 right now they are on pace to break it this year.  I am expecting 3 against CNU this weekend.  When the best secondary steps onto the field this weekend.

Nova-
What did you think of Greensboro's Secondary this past Saturday.  I don't think I am hyping them up that much to be honest.
I was certainly impressed with their tenacity and their athleticism, but .... we still got 360 yards passing and you won't play another team this season that throws the ball 65-70 times a game.  Also keeping in mind that one of the interceptions was in overtime, I think it's unlikely the Pride will maintain that pace the rest of the season.  It was a good, competitive game and that bodes well for the Pride the rest of the season.  By the way, did you see the picture over the game story in Sunday's Greensboro News and Record?  The photographer was in the perfect position to capture the essence of the final play - Barnette in the endzone with the ball extended in his right hand, the Greensboro defender trailing the play by a few yards, the ref signaling TD at the goal and the home crowd going crazy behind them.   I know it wasn't what the Pride fans wanted, but I think you'll have to admit it was a great photograph.       
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 04, 2006, 11:27:31 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 04, 2006, 10:18:11 AM
I was certainly impressed with their tenacity and their athleticism, but .... we still got 360 yards passing and you won't play another team this season that throws the ball 65-70 times a game.  Also keeping in mind that one of the interceptions was in overtime, I think it's unlikely the Pride will maintain that pace the rest of the season. 

I think they will break the record.  Do I think 5 INT's a game the rest of the way is likely.  Not at all.  Mars Hill had 11 att.  GC picked them off twice.  70 att. the rest of the way is very unlikely.  70 some att. and only 360 yards, I would say is great. IMO
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 04, 2006, 01:46:33 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 03, 2006, 01:30:21 PM
Goose-

Sounds like you are doing a little advertising for Fazzoli's.  You getting a cut if you send people over there.  Do I tell them Goose13 sent me or CNU.  Do I get some kind of discount. ;)  ;D

If that is the case get me a discount on a hotel room too.

They used to be a fine sponsor of CNU athletics, not sure if they still are or not!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 04, 2006, 01:48:11 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 04, 2006, 10:18:11 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 03, 2006, 11:03:38 PM
Quiet night it looks like.  Ferrum College set the record for most interceptions in a season in 2005 with 18.  Greensboro has a 11 right now they are on pace to break it this year.  I am expecting 3 against CNU this weekend.  When the best secondary steps onto the field this weekend.

Nova-
What did you think of Greensboro's Secondary this past Saturday.  I don't think I am hyping them up that much to be honest.
I was certainly impressed with their tenacity and their athleticism, but .... we still got 360 yards passing and you won't play another team this season that throws the ball 65-70 times a game.  Also keeping in mind that one of the interceptions was in overtime, I think it's unlikely the Pride will maintain that pace the rest of the season.  It was a good, competitive game and that bodes well for the Pride the rest of the season.  By the way, did you see the picture over the game story in Sunday's Greensboro News and Record?  The photographer was in the perfect position to capture the essence of the final play - Barnette in the endzone with the ball extended in his right hand, the Greensboro defender trailing the play by a few yards, the ref signaling TD at the goal and the home crowd going crazy behind them.   I know it wasn't what the Pride fans wanted, but I think you'll have to admit it was a great photograph.       

And you know they wont get one or any at all when they play Ferrum!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 04, 2006, 01:56:55 PM
BBallguy...you have got to remember that you have basically played all home games this season.  Sure, you played at Guilford but what's that 10 miles away, and I'm sure you guys had quite a few fans make the 'journey.'  This weekend is their first true road test and it's gonna be a BIG test. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 04, 2006, 02:28:21 PM
Goose-
You are right about Ferrum.

Papi-
It is a big test. As I outlined in my keys to game.  GC has to score first or prevent CNU from scoring at all in that first quarter.  Or score more then CNU in the first qtr.  CNU at home more times then not have won because they get after teams in that first qtr.  I have looked at games in the past where teams have put up better numbers at CNU.  That has to catch up with them eventually, hopefully this weekend.  GC has played from behind in the 4th qtr alot this year.  Teams in the past may not have made it to the 4th qtr. 

Yes it is a big road game for GC. I don't think anyone at GC seems to care if CNU has only lost 1 conference game at CNU.  I see a little bit more heart in this team then I have seen in the past.  Its going to take more then that to scare them away.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 04, 2006, 02:56:00 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 04, 2006, 01:56:55 PM
BBallguy...you have got to remember that you have basically played all home games this season.  Sure, you played at Guilford but what's that 10 miles away, and I'm sure you guys had quite a few fans make the 'journey.'  This weekend is their first true road test and it's gonna be a BIG test. 
admiralpapi - You got me wondering about the distance so I did a mapquest check.  It's only 5.3 miles, but it's a hard 5.3 miles.  Those city streets are tough.  lol  Sorry, PrideBBallguy, but I agree with the admiral, this week is a whole new ballgame.  I believe CNU will be the strongest team you've played and it's a true road game with a large and very partisan crowd.  Your guys might also be a bit more tired after a much longer bus ride.  I hope the Pride does well, but that's just my take. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 04, 2006, 05:16:43 PM
Greensboro 21 CNU 17-
I called it my upset special in the pick'em.  I am not going to back down from it. I don't think CNU has been tested that much through the air this year. (about half as many att less then the rest of the conference, only 1 int.) Greensboro can put up points. CNU's defense should keep the game close. Greensboro's defense isn't that bad either.  Kept Guilford to lowest first half total of the year.

AU 28 MC 7- AU
has lost some close games to Methodist.  MC doesn't have the offense they had in the past.  Only 28 pts for AU because they are on the road for first time since second week of season.

FC 34 MC 10- Ferrum lost last week to AU.  They bounce back and take it too Maryville.  (That's more of trip then GC to CNU) 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 04, 2006, 06:02:12 PM
prideguy - i know this isn't a grammar board, but reading your posts sometimes drives me nuts...then/than...learn the difference and use the words correctly...they are NOT interchangeable

here are my picks:

cnu 30 - gc 13 - captains are CLEARLY tested having faced one of the toughest schedules in the nation, they're at home, the defense is playing well and they're balanced...they have the second best rb in the conference in hilliard and a very good wr corps

fc 42 - m'ville 17 - the scots won't stop pitts and that running game, despite a sweet new logo set :)

au 24 - mc 17 - the monarch defense will continue to play well, but the offense won't have enough - i'd like to make the "upset special" call, but i've said all year that i thought au was the team to beat in the conference - here is why the monarchs have a chance, though:  they have played the run very well this year, and while they've given up some yardage through the air, let's examine those games/teams - guilford, who pass on everyone, chowan which was down huge and got over 1/2 of their yardage on 2 plays and ehc who is led by a senior qb - they have also given up that yardage because teams simply haven't been able to run on them - i see this being a close game, as most au/mc games have been the last few seasons

eh-you has talked about the special & return teams for the cougars, but i like the monarchs chances if the game is decided by the specials - the monarchs have a better kicker (larkin is the best in the conference, in my opinion) and although alston gets more attention, sands has a higher kor average by 3 yards and a higher pr average by over 3 yards - larkin has also taken over punting duties, and is punting at 37.2 ypp - right now i just HOPE it comes down to special teams, though :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 04, 2006, 06:08:44 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 04, 2006, 05:16:43 PM
I don't think CNU has been tested that much through the air this year.

the orihel kid from rowan is pretty good...i think he provided a pretty good test for the cnu defense
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 04, 2006, 06:21:42 PM
Narch-
I enjoy driving you nuts.  I am glad that you are checking the grammar.  At least that tells me you are reading the posts ;).  I just type and post.  I guess I will check my posts before I post.  I want to drive you nuts by what I say, not by how I say it. ;D

I think your picks are good picks.

85 attempts vs 154 (most in conference by your boys at Methodist)

We know what happened in the Rowan game  :-\ (Ok apples to oranges GC and Rowan).  They haven't seen the ball through the air that much.

Vogelbach had an article in SI. I am not sure who is better.  (I don't think Vogelbach of Guilford was all that good.  I mean he was picked off 5 times by GC. ;))

If you think the Rowan kid is better, ok but Vogelbach seems to be getting the attention.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 04, 2006, 06:54:02 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 04, 2006, 06:21:42 PM
If you think the Rowan kid is better, ok but Vogelbach seems to be getting the attention.

i've never seen orihel play, but from what i've heard he's the real deal - i also never said he was better than vogelbach, just that he was pretty good and gave the captains a pretty good test - i think vogelbach is legit, as well, but he gets a lot of attention because of the novelty of what he's doing and the absurdity of the numbers he's putting up...there aren't many qb's who regularly throw the ball 50-60 (or more) times per game - lastly, it wasn't an ARTICLE in si...he was in faces in the crowd...i don't want to diminish the significance of the publicity, but it's about 20-30 words, not an article
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 04, 2006, 07:06:24 PM
Narch-

Ok.  Well I no longer subscribe to SI. I think the SI has become more Feature then Sports talk.   Talk around here was he had article.  Vogelbach 22 TDs and 14 INTs.  He is solid.  I think his WR's are solid too, all big guys.  I think he throws a very catchable ball.  Maybe too catchable 9 of 14 INT's game in two games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 04, 2006, 07:52:57 PM
Around the region Pat Cummings summed up CNU pretty well.  The dang SU game was upsetting to watch.  Our D played OK between the twenties and then stepped it up near the goal line.  I personally thought we should have held them to even more 3 and outs.  We mailed the game in until poor Rob Rod got cold cocked on a return.  The poor guy was out before his body stopped spinning and hit the ground.  (one of the hardest hits I've seen in a long time.)  A good example of Inertia and Physics though.  Those who were there all know what it looks like for a 170lb body to get hit by a much larger one. I digress.  CNU then got fired up, stopped SU and then put the game out of reach.

I hope the guys on the CNU squad read this.  DO NOT WAIT FOR ANOTHER TEAM TO BRING THE FIGHT TO YOU.  OPEN THE CAN OF WHOOP @$$ EARLY ON AND KEEP IT OPEN.  You can not afford to sleep walk through the rest of the season.  If you do, your record will look like last years and you will be home for Thanksgiving thinking about how much better you are than the rest of the league and how Averett or Ferrum is playing in the Playoffs.

Get fired up, knock them down and step on them.  Don't let the other team even think for a second that they have a chance.
After Shenandoah that is what everyone is thinking,  "hey maybe we have a shot".  Make an example of GC.  Leave them beaten and bruised.  run up the score.  I don't Care.  Beat them so bad that the rest of the conference doesn't even utter the letters CNU for the fear of unleashing the unholy terror that lives at POMOCO stadium.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 04, 2006, 08:33:16 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 04, 2006, 07:52:57 PM
Get fired up, knock them down and step on them.  Don't let the other team even think for a second that they have a chance.
After Shenandoah that is what everyone is thinking,  "hey maybe we have a shot".  Make an example of GC.  Leave them beaten and bruised.  run up the score.  I don't Care.  Beat them so bad that the rest of the conference doesn't even utter the letters CNU for the fear of unleashing the unholy terror that lives at POMOCO stadium.

pretty intense stuff...coach k should hire you to give that speech in the locker room

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 04, 2006, 07:06:24 PM
I think the SI has become more Feature then Sports talk.

how about THAN....:)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 04, 2006, 08:50:43 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 04, 2006, 07:52:57 PM

Get fired up, knock them down and step on them.  Don't let the other team even think for a second that they have a chance.
After Shenandoah that is what everyone is thinking,  "hey maybe we have a shot".  Make an example of GC.  Leave them beaten and bruised.  run up the score.  I don't Care.  Beat them so bad that the rest of the conference doesn't even utter the letters CNU for the fear of unleashing the unholy terror that lives at POMOCO stadium.

For some reason when I was reading that I felt like I was in an "Under Armor" commercial.  I kept waiting for someone to run through the door screaming click/clack!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 04, 2006, 10:02:48 PM
CNULifer-

I agree with Methodist posting crew.  Very intense stuff. "Leave them beaten and brusied" should be on a t-shirt.  What you wrote reminded me of the Titan-Raven rivalry of the NFL.  I want GC and coaching staff to do what Brian Billick did, after beating the Titans at home.  (I think they won 20+ staight games there, until Ravens came into town.)  Sounds like we have situation like that up there at CNU.  When it comes to conference play at least.  Brian Billick said something like, "SI says Titans are the best team, but not today." Coaching staff at GC at the end of the game should say, "d3sports/post says CNU is the best team in USASAC, not today!!!" ;) :D ;D

Check my grammar Narch.  I was in a hurry to write this one.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 04, 2006, 11:09:58 PM
OK fellows, with tongue firmly in cheek:

Frequentative

"Their ones was a Mann with a pin
Hew rote "than" win heed reel E mint "then"
Its knot wright homonym
Sew eye no it was hymn
Watt two dew with hour pour spell her Frend?"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 04, 2006, 11:12:25 PM
firmly in whose cheek??


Is that why you are typing with a lisp??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 04, 2006, 11:16:27 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 04, 2006, 11:12:25 PM
firmly in whose cheek??

Is that why you are typing with a lisp??
Ha.  I can see why you're such a popular guy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 04, 2006, 11:30:51 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 04, 2006, 11:16:27 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 04, 2006, 11:12:25 PM
firmly in whose cheek??

Is that why you are typing with a lisp??
Ha.  I can see why you're such a popular guy.

Nova-
what you just said made my day.

"Ha.  I can see why you're such a popular guy." (I enjoy the quick witt.)

Well this weekend I know I won't be a popular guy at CNU.  Especially since I am going to find the most green humanly possible, and wear it at the game.  I might have to do body paint  ;D. What's the expected temp at CNU this Saturday?

I say 5000+ fans bring your best, because I will try to match it.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 04, 2006, 11:40:02 PM

NEWS for CNU players from The Pride - just remember, this is the same team that only won one game last year and two the year before.  :( They have not ever beaten anybody that's any good, and just squeaked by Maryville College (have they won a game yet?). Just take it easy on them and don't hurt nobody . . .they will do their best, but I am sure they are whimpering in their milk about having to face such a huge & overwhelming foe. :'(

This would probably be a good weekend for CNU to take off and coast to another easy victory over the Lady Lions!  ??? They can't decide on a QB, two freshman are their best defensive players and tiny Guilford College passed for 300 yards against them. Should just be another easy day at the park! Shoot, you guys don't need to even show up until half . . . this is probably a game you could clep out of ! ! ! You should be making big plans for a nice evening of celebration after dusting off The Pride.  :-\

Good luck - not that you would need it or anything . . . . at least not this weekend . . . . how's the sailing this time of year?




Now, maybe the Greensboro coach is telling his players some things an old coach told his players 30 years ago:

QuoteWhat matters...is not the size of the dog in the fight, but of the fight in the dog.
QuoteIf you believe in yourself and have dedication and PRIDE - and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of victory is high but so are the rewards.
QuoteTough times dont last, but tough people do
QuoteI ain't never been nothing but a winner.

But that probably didn't work 30 years ago - it probably doesn't work now . . . . enjoy your weekend off.  ;)



ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on October 05, 2006, 12:01:04 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on October 02, 2006, 12:08:07 AM

It's not a matter of good teams not playing crummier ones. Most of the weaker teams are fearful of playing the big guys. Mount Union has struggled year in and year out to find a team to play. They would've played anyone who had the courage to say "yes." Averett had that courage this year, and it's paying off. CNU has been doing great these past couple of years putting some tough games on the schedule, too. And for a further reason that you can't say a good team won't play a bad team: Bridgewater did play LaGrange this year, didn't they? I'm sure Clark was pretty confident that that game was an automatic W for the Eagles.

You know, it's been hard for BC to find teams to play us as well.  Last year we  had to play a club team because we couldn't find a 10th team to play.  It's not just Mount Union who can't find people to play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 05, 2006, 01:01:47 AM
Quote from: Olinemom on October 05, 2006, 12:01:04 AM


You know, it's been hard for BC to find teams to play us as well.  Last year we  had to play a club team because we couldn't find a 10th team to play.  It's not just Mount Union who can't find people to play.

Uh,  is that why BC played Shenandoah instead of CNU this year.  Last I heard was that BC coach did not want to play CNU anymore.  I could be wrong and you all knowing smiters will probably bash me with the facts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 05, 2006, 01:07:32 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 04, 2006, 11:16:27 PM

Ha.  I can see why you're such a popular guy.
[/quote]

My lord!!  He has quick witt?

What, did you not get my joke??

Maybe I should come up with some witty poetry on the FOOTBALL site.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 05, 2006, 08:13:43 AM
weather this weekend....great....if you are a duck.

Rain starting this afternoon and may stop on Monday
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 05, 2006, 09:03:48 AM
I take great "Pride" in getting all the jokes and keeping my "wits" about me.  :)  I hope there is a great game at POMOCO this weekend.  Sorry, I won't be C-N-U there.  Peace

There once was a man with a lisp
Whose tongue had been burnt to a crisp
One really bad joke
Had gone up in smoke
But all that's now seen is a wisp!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 05, 2006, 09:43:52 AM
Prideguy...if it's raining do you think that will hurt GC's offense. Looking at the stats most of GC's yards come through the air, is that because they have trouble running or just because the passing game is that good?  If it's a wet field and a wet ball it could a slop fest which generally favors the team that can run the ball better.  However from what I've heard CNU's field dries really quick so as long as it's not raining during the game it may not matter.
Good luck to GC and tell them to stay out of that breakfast buffet place ummmm) down the road from CNU.  We used to eat there for breakfast everytime we went to newport news and couldn't move during the first quarter.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 05, 2006, 09:48:02 AM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 05, 2006, 01:01:47 AM

Uh,  is that why BC played Shenandoah instead of CNU this year.  Last I heard was that BC coach did not want to play CNU anymore.  I could be wrong and you all knowing smiters will probably bash me with the facts.

Uh you are partially correct and no smiting here. ;) BC replaced CNU with Ferrum or LaGrange however you care to look at it. Yes not playing CNU was a calculated decision based on the new playoff system. In BC's case, its just smart scheduling. 1) If you go undefeated in non-conf. games, lose a conf. game and don't get your automatic bid you are still in. 2) If you can go 10-0 you stand a much better chance to host playoff games throughout. It was decided that BC would rather play CNU in the playoffs. Uh, and the if you play tough teams during the regular season you are better prepared for the playoffs doesn't fly. If you lose those tough games and don't win your conference you are setting at home anyway. BC has proven the formula works since they have only been ousted once in the first round of the playoffs in the last six years. As for Shenandoah, we have played them for the last 5 years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 05, 2006, 10:01:29 AM
I know DI schools sometimes have non-conference teams scheduled for 5-10 years ahead of time.  Obviously, DIII schools must have a little more flexibility than that or they wouldn't be able to schedule new programs (such as LaGrange) on relatively short notice.   Typically, what's normal for a DIII program as far as knowing their schedule ahead of time?  Is it set years in advance or is it something the AD's still working on in the spring before they play that fall?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on October 05, 2006, 10:12:55 AM
here are my picks for the week.

GREENSBORO 17   CNU  35- i think CNU will have a great game on saturday. Roland Hilliard has been due a big game and i think he will get it on sat. maybe rushing for 140+.

MARYVILLE 17   FERRUM  42- Maryville's defense is giving up 147 yrds/game rushing, while ferrum is aceraging 370/game. Colby Townsend is a great D-END having 7 sacks already this year, but ferrum has a player named PITTS. If you have ever seen this young man play the game he is amazing. Great athlete, and ferrum is still upset about loosing saturday, they will win this big.

AVERETT 28  METHODIST 17 - Why am i choosing averett, because i want my picks to look good, and because i think it will come down to AVERETT and CNU  for the conference title, i think we will have one winner this year for the first time. Averett throws the ball well, 1031 yrds passing on the year. MC is giving up 259.8/ game through the air. Methodist doesnt have a very goodoffensive attack this year.....yet..... If parks continues throwing the way he did saturday, then the monarchs win this one, if he starts. If the monarchs cannot throw the ball and all they do is run, they will loose this one. Mike hill might have 130+ and 2 TD'S, but hopefully we can throw a little bit and get some TD'S that way.

Narch- any word on who might be starting for the monarchs at QB?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 05, 2006, 10:25:20 AM
As for the weather, 64 degrees with an 80% chance of rain beginning overnight with NNE winds at 16 MPH. Nothing like a windy, rainy arse football game. Thank god for a press box!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 05, 2006, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 05, 2006, 10:01:29 AM
I know DI schools sometimes have non-conference teams scheduled for 5-10 years ahead of time.  Obviously, DIII schools must have a little more flexibility than that or they wouldn't be able to schedule new programs (such as LaGrange) on relatively short notice.   Typically, what's normal for a DIII program as far as knowing their schedule ahead of time?  Is it set years in advance or is it something the AD's still working on in the spring before they play that fall?

From what I hear at CNU, they usually complete the schedule in the fall and then release it sometimes toward the end of the season or once the season is complete. But I think CNU usually has it complete around a year in advance.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2006, 10:48:53 AM
With rain in the forecast at the CNU-GC game, from my experience always favors a low scoring game.  A defensive game IMO.  Rain is a great neutralizer.  So don't expect the blow out. 

I think this game will come down to Specials from field position to kicking it through.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 05, 2006, 11:02:05 AM
If Barcus is back for CNU, which is distinct possibility, we will own field position cause the man is a machine when it comes to punting accuracy. Only problem is, he hasnt kicked in a game since he got HAMMERED in the second game of the season and we all thought he was done for the year when all he had was a deep bone bruise above his knee.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2006, 11:16:54 AM
Goose-

Good Call.  Coming back from an injury and playing on a potential slick surface.  He better come back to form on Saturday.  We have some of the best return guys in the conference.  (Torrey Lowe comes to mind)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 05, 2006, 11:19:34 AM
Yeah from what I heard that Lowe kid is pretty average!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2006, 11:50:03 AM
Most of the people in here, also do the pick'em.  The poll question this week was USASAC more or less balanced.  5 out of 6 say it is.  Yet people continue to pick the favorites.  (I am guilty too, but I picked at leat one underdog.)  Thoughts on how balanced is this conference really.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 05, 2006, 12:06:10 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 05, 2006, 10:27:51 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 05, 2006, 10:01:29 AM
I know DI schools sometimes have non-conference teams scheduled for 5-10 years ahead of time.  Obviously, DIII schools must have a little more flexibility than that or they wouldn't be able to schedule new programs (such as LaGrange) on relatively short notice.   Typically, what's normal for a DIII program as far as knowing their schedule ahead of time?  Is it set years in advance or is it something the AD's still working on in the spring before they play that fall?

From what I hear at CNU, they usually complete the schedule in the fall and then release it sometimes toward the end of the season or once the season is complete. But I think CNU usually has it complete around a year in advance.
Thanks Goose.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 05, 2006, 12:07:55 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 05, 2006, 11:19:34 AMYeah from what I heard that Lowe kid is pretty average!  ;)
I've seen Torrey play a couple of times - he's good.  If we're on the playground choosing sides, I'd take him!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2006, 12:16:43 PM
If there was Fantasy Football league for d3sports.  Torrey would be my first pick out of this conference ;D

Oh wow. I have reached the status giving Karma.  How does that work now?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 05, 2006, 12:43:21 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 05, 2006, 10:01:29 AM
I know DI schools sometimes have non-conference teams scheduled for 5-10 years ahead of time.  Obviously, DIII schools must have a little more flexibility than that or they wouldn't be able to schedule new programs (such as LaGrange) on relatively short notice.   Typically, what's normal for a DIII program as far as knowing their schedule ahead of time?  Is it set years in advance or is it something the AD's still working on in the spring before they play that fall?

The LaGrange game came out of necessity. BC scheduled Southern VA when it ended its run with CNU. So VA backed out and decided it didn't want to be drilled by BC. In the spring that year BC replaced them with Thomas More who a month later backed out on both LaGrange and BC to join the PAC and start conference games immediately. BC picked up George Mason (Club team) last year until LaGrange started playing games. The evolution of a schedule, clear as mud!! :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 05, 2006, 01:30:51 PM
Here are SU's tentative schedules for the next 3 years.

http://www.su.edu/athletics/fb/futureschedules.asp

The BC matchup was a 10 year agreement made in 2000
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: Olinemom on October 05, 2006, 12:01:04 AM


You know, it's been hard for BC to find teams to play us as well.  Last year we  had to play a club team because we couldn't find a 10th team to play.  It's not just Mount Union who can't find people to play.

you could still be playing CNU each year...but the coach chose to play Southern Virginia instead! He was worried about a physical game before the HSC game and conference play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 05, 2006, 02:03:57 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 05, 2006, 12:43:21 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 05, 2006, 10:01:29 AM
I know DI schools sometimes have non-conference teams scheduled for 5-10 years ahead of time.  Obviously, DIII schools must have a little more flexibility than that or they wouldn't be able to schedule new programs (such as LaGrange) on relatively short notice.   Typically, what's normal for a DIII program as far as knowing their schedule ahead of time?  Is it set years in advance or is it something the AD's still working on in the spring before they play that fall?

The LaGrange game came out of necessity. BC scheduled Southern VA when it ended its run with CNU. So VA backed out and decided it didn't want to be drilled by BC. In the spring that year BC replaced them with Thomas More who a month later backed out on both LaGrange and BC to join the PAC and start conference games immediately. BC picked up George Mason (Club team) last year until LaGrange started playing games. The evolution of a schedule, clear as mud!! :o
Thanks, llama.  "I can see clearly now ..."  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 02:18:34 PM
rain, 64 temp, winds around 40 mph........looks like the great GC secondary will have to play tight on the line and stop the run. punting/kicking could be in trouble. game prediction on saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 05, 2006, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 01:57:27 PM
you could still be playing CNU each year...but the coach chose to play Southern Virginia instead! He was worried about a physical game before the HSC game and conference play.

Okay, fine, we admit; we were and continue to be scared of mighty CNU.

2002: BC 25, CNU 6
2003: CNU 16, BC 12
2003: BC 26, CNU 3 (playoffs)
2004: CNU 21, BC 16

Series is tied 2-2.  BC's two wins were convincing, CNU's weren't.

Also, it seems we played you all during your best years.

So we should be the ones disappointed we don't play anymore. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on October 05, 2006, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: Olinemom on October 05, 2006, 12:01:04 AM


You know, it's been hard for BC to find teams to play us as well.  Last year we  had to play a club team because we couldn't find a 10th team to play.  It's not just Mount Union who can't find people to play.

you could still be playing CNU each year...but the coach chose to play Southern Virginia instead! He was worried about a physical game before the HSC game and conference play.


That's why we picked up Ferrum, they're the better team for preparing for ODAC games.   I won't mention how ballsy that statement is for a team that hasn't done too much in the second season.   :D  But then again you all beat 1 ranked team this year so you SHOULD run off at  the mouth...  :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:09:57 PM
dang ...talk about panties getting all wadded up. I just said the same thing as Llamaguy, but didn't go into the details about the GM club team, Thomas More etc.......and y'all freak out.  Olinemom made the comment about it's hard to schedule tough teams......I just said that the CNU/BC series could have continued...nothing more ...nothing less.....Llama (or maybe someone else) mentioned the reasoning was the way the playoffs are determined for at-large teams, etc. I agree it was smart scheduling by the coach....he figured out the rules, and then found a way to make them work......

I didn't say anything about who beat whom and by how much and what year and who was in their prime years, etc.

Personally, I was hoping that the CNU/BC series would turn into a true in-state, fierce rivalry.

I'll try not to make simple statements based on fact anymore, if it upsets you guys that much.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:14:25 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2006, 03:21:46 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 02:18:34 PM
rain, 64 temp, winds around 40 mph........looks like the great GC secondary will have to play tight on the line and stop the run. punting/kicking could be in trouble. game prediction on saturday.

Sounds like a great weekend to watch a game.  Are CNU fans that loyal.  Will they show up for a game with weather like that.  I am sure some of them are thinking, its only greensboro.  Again I could be wrong.  I think it will be a low scoring game still. :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:29:12 PM
Many  CNU fans are older (50+) and many are over 40. I can't see them sitting in 65 degree downpours with gale force winds. If the weather turns out as bad as they say, I predict less than 2,000. Heck I'm a diehard CNU fan - my definition of die hard is:

1. season ticket holder
2. have attended more than 1 away game
3. do not have a kid on the team
4. cnu didn't have a team when I was there
5. I give $$ to the Athletic dept.

--- and if the weather is that bad, I'll think about listening to the game on radio (for you un-married people - that means if my wife gives me a hard time about wearing a yellow raincoat, I'm not going!!).
If I go and catch a cold, I'll hear about it for the next 21 years of marriage!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:32:59 PM
Ballguy,

I admire your belief in your team! They have improved. But (you knew that word was coming) I really don't think this game will be close. If the weather is really bad and it shuts down the GC passing game...and turns into a Hilliard highlight show...it could get ugly. Although, at times Hilliard has a difficult time keeping his footing. Who really knows? we'll find out Saturday.

Given the forecast - are th GC faithful still heading up for the game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2006, 04:46:05 PM
Other then parents and girlfriends.  I will be the only real fan there.

Hilliard is a good back. (Only 110 yds last year at GC)  Salisbury, can back that up. I hope the rain slows him down.  The expected weather was the same as last year.  If I remeber right


I don't think CNU can score unless they have good field position.  Take lasy year's game.  A 28-15 victory for CNU.  They avg around mid-field the 1Q.  21 points were scored.  14 of 21 were points off TO's.  GC has done a better job of holding on to the football compared to last year.  (Only difference between last year and this year was Davidson to Mars Hill)  They have 2 wins compared to 0.

This year, first conference game for CNU.   They scored on drives that started at  S34, C50 and S44.  I don't see them scoring on any drives where they have had poor field position.  There could be alot of that this game.  Given the weather.

You would expect that out of a team like GC, not a team considered a top team in USASAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on October 05, 2006, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:09:57 PM
dang ...talk about panties getting all wadded up. I just said the same thing as Llamaguy, but didn't go into the details about the GM club team, Thomas More etc.......and y'all freak out.  Olinemom made the comment about it's hard to schedule tough teams......I just said that the CNU/BC series could have continued...nothing more ...nothing less.....Llama (or maybe someone else) mentioned the reasoning was the way the playoffs are determined for at-large teams, etc. I agree it was smart scheduling by the coach....he figured out the rules, and then found a way to make them work......

I didn't say anything about who beat whom and by how much and what year and who was in their prime years, etc.

Personally, I was hoping that the CNU/BC series would turn into a true in-state, fierce rivalry.

I'll try not to make simple statements based on fact anymore, if it upsets you guys that much.

No panties in a wad here.. we have our own inter-conference rivals to play games against.. personally as a former BC player the CNU game never seemed that interesting when compared to the BC/HSC and BC/W&L match up. The W&L game is pretty intense as they are only about an hour south of Bridgewater and they always come prepared to play.  I would also argue that for the years the we played CNU the HSC/BC game truly determined the best D3 team in VA.  Hell the BC/SU was more fun than playing against CNU.   Those are all true in-state rivals who for the most part give BC good games every year.   But  back to your original point Coach Clark made a smart move by creating a scheule that best suits a team that has a chance to make the playoffs.   But I'd argue that the CNU/BC game was always a side note on the schedule when compared to the other ODAC games which are both always within the state of VA.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 05:23:09 PM
Hall,

I agree. Rivalries are usually within the conference and especially with the schools involved. As a fan, I would have loved to see the series continue. If the BC/CNU game every year determined the best d3 team in the state, maybe it would have developed into a non-conf rivalry. It's not a rivalry when you play 4 times. BC was the big dog in those 4 games. To CNU it was big, because we like playing the big dogs. Sometimes we win. To BC it wasn't big becuase the way the playoffs are determined the only sure bet ot making the post season is to win the conference. with the conference schedule starting the week after CNU and against HSC, I'd be focused on that part of the schedule. A conference loss (even only 1) usually meant you weren't int he post season. A region loss, but winning the conference, and you're in.

Smart move by Clark - sad news for this football fan......plus I enjoyed meeting the BC fans. Good group of folks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 05, 2006, 05:23:47 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:29:12 PM

  (for you un-married people - that means if my wife gives me a hard time about wearing a yellow raincoat, I'm not going!!).
If I go and catch a cold, I'll hear about it for the next 21 years of marriage!!!!

I hear ya 85, my wife doesn't like raincoats either! (jk)  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 05:28:18 PM
DOH!!!  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 05, 2006, 06:56:41 PM
You could leave the wife at home.

I am going to.

She would rather watch her team, VA Tech, lose again anyway.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 05, 2006, 07:03:51 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:29:12 PM
Many  CNU fans are older (50+) and many are over 40. I can't see them sitting in 65 degree downpours with gale force winds. If the weather turns out as bad as they say, I predict less than 2,000. Heck I'm a diehard CNU fan - my definition of die hard is:

1. season ticket holder
2. have attended more than 1 away game
3. do not have a kid on the team
4. cnu didn't have a team when I was there
5. I give $$ to the Athletic dept.


I just got to the thirties and meet the rest of your criteria.  Oh yeah did I read this years benefits correctly?  Are we allowed to go to presidents box at half time?

I will be at the game rain or shine.  Have not missed one this year.  As a matter of fact I got into a lot of trouble last year when my wife and oldest girl were in a friends wedding and I left the kid and wife to go to the game.  I came back to the reception and had my butt handed to me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 05, 2006, 07:31:58 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 05, 2006, 10:25:20 AM
As for the weather, 64 degrees with an 80% chance of rain beginning overnight with NNE winds at 16 MPH. Nothing like a windy, rainy arse football game. Thank god for a press box!!!


I will be there rain or shine but i expect a nice crowd for the Pride considerin the distance



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2006, 08:02:13 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 05, 2006, 07:31:58 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 05, 2006, 10:25:20 AM
As for the weather, 64 degrees with an 80% chance of rain beginning overnight with NNE winds at 16 MPH. Nothing like a windy, rainy arse football game. Thank god for a press box!!!
I will be there rain or shine but i expect a nice crowd for the Pride considerin the distance

Gullet-
Even I think you are pressing your luck on a "nice crowd"  Other then parents, there will be one other person there.  Me.  That nice crowd will only put a dimple into what CNU will have there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 05, 2006, 08:36:55 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 05, 2006, 07:03:51 PM

I just got to the thirties and meet the rest of your criteria.  Oh yeah did I read this years benefits correctly?  Are we allowed to go to presidents box at half time?

I will be at the game rain or shine.  Have not missed one this year.  As a matter of fact I got into a lot of trouble last year when my wife and oldest girl were in a friends wedding and I left the kid and wife to go to the game.  I came back to the reception and had my butt handed to me.

I can "one-up" you there Lifer. My wife's sister got married September 16th 2006. Was I there? No! I politely explained that I had over 40 people expecting Chili & cornbread at Stone Station South, Ferrum College. Gotta take care of your peeps you know! Besides her sister was supposed to get married in July, it wasn't my fault she moved the wedding into football season. :o

I can happily say, 16 Saturdays from August until December are spent tailgating and watching D3 football.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 06, 2006, 12:46:50 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2006, 08:02:13 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 05, 2006, 07:31:58 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 05, 2006, 10:25:20 AM
As for the weather, 64 degrees with an 80% chance of rain beginning overnight with NNE winds at 16 MPH. Nothing like a windy, rainy arse football game. Thank god for a press box!!!
I will be there rain or shine but i expect a nice crowd for the Pride considerin the distance

Gullet-
Even I think you are pressing your luck on a "nice crowd"  Other then parents, there will be one other person there.  Me.  That nice crowd will only put a dimple into what CNU will have there.


That is true but a little of support is better than none. And for those people from greensboro that cant make it i will be making the trip up there and doing the play by play on Pride Net. Here is the link for it:

http://secure.stretchinternet.com/demo/games.php?%20user=greensboro&o=cal_stamp

so tune in if you can
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2006, 09:07:46 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:29:12 PM
Many CNU fans are older (50+) and many are over 40.

Did I say something?  Somebody took some karma away. 

Anyway.  GC should have plenty alumni given that the school was built in 1838. (I guess the women don't like sports.  I sure don't see them there. ;))

Then in 1953 men were allowed to come.  We still don't see them at the games.  I think if GC had that kind of alumni support, we would fill the 10,000 people high school stadium we currently play. ;)

So I envy CNU.  I have been to basketball games up there and I am impressed with the amount of alumni at the games.

CNU 1 GC 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 06, 2006, 10:29:37 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2006, 09:07:46 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:29:12 PM
Many CNU fans are older (50+) and many are over 40.

Did I say something?  Somebody took some karma away. 

Anyway.  GC should have plenty alumni given that the school was built in 1838. (I guess the women don't like sports.  I sure don't see them there. ;))

Then in 1953 men were allowed to come.  We still don't see them at the games.  I think if GC had that kind of alumni support, we would fill the 10,000 people high school stadium we currently play. ;)

So I envy CNU.  I have been to basketball games up there and I am impressed with the amount of alumni at the games.

CNU 1 GC 0

I agree with you Pride I think things would be alot better if we had the support from the Alumni. Our alums are not coming out in the numbers that they need to and supporting thier Alma Mater.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 06, 2006, 10:38:01 AM
Who keeps takin my carma? And Why????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2006, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 06, 2006, 10:38:01 AM
Who keeps takin my carma? And Why????

I have lost 2 in the past hour. I haven't even said anything.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 06, 2006, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:32:59 PM
Ballguy,

I admire your belief in your team! They have improved. But (you knew that word was coming) I really don't think this game will be close. If the weather is really bad and it shuts down the GC passing game...and turns into a Hilliard highlight show...it could get ugly. Although, at times Hilliard has a difficult time keeping his footing. Who really knows? we'll find out Saturday.

Given the forecast - are th GC faithful still heading up for the game?


CNU,

I think if it is raining, that it will turn into a field position game. Our punter Chirs Palme is doing a good job pinning team in deap in thier own territory. Last week at Guilford, he pined the Quakers inside the 20 3 times. He has really improved over the span of one year and that includes the field goal kicking as well. So it is going to be interesting to see if the field position battle will tell a different tell this year compared to last years game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 06, 2006, 10:45:26 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2006, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 06, 2006, 10:38:01 AM
Who keeps takin my carma? And Why????

I have lost 2 in the past hour. I haven't even said anything.

Ive lost 3 and i just now got on. i think it is one of the CNU people. Hey Pride when are you leaving to make the trip and where are you staying?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 06, 2006, 10:53:20 AM
Hey guys here is the forcast for tommorw:


Rain / Thunder

High
68°F

Precip
80%

Wind: NNE 14 mph
Max. Humidity: 88%

UV Index: 4 Moderate

So it does look like its going to be a wet day and the battle of the field position


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 06, 2006, 11:01:54 AM

Do you think the weather will affect the way GC alternates QBs? Is one better in the mud? Also, how is Herbin? That could be a real key in the rain. And might we see more of Lowe lining up at QB and running? I think it will be interesting to see how the GC HC adjusts to running their offense in the rain.

BTW, as of now I have to work tomorrow - so no trip to VA.   :'( :'( I know you are all heartbroken!



ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2006, 11:06:47 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 06, 2006, 10:45:26 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2006, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 06, 2006, 10:38:01 AM
Who keeps takin my carma? And Why????

I have lost 2 in the past hour. I haven't even said anything.

Ive lost 3 and i just now got on. i think it is one of the CNU people. Hey Pride when are you leaving to make the trip and where are you staying?


I don't think it is any of the CNU people.  They actually show some class.  I am leaving between now and 3pm today.  I am staying at the Point Plaza.

D3Newbie-Don't know which QB does better in the rain. Not too sure.  We might shuffle in RB's in the whole time.  Keep them fresh.  Could see Lowe in the backfield.

Well I will give the team my best on part too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 06, 2006, 11:25:02 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 06, 2006, 11:01:54 AM

Do you think the weather will affect the way GC alternates QBs? Is one better in the mud? Also, how is Herbin? That could be a real key in the rain. And might we see more of Lowe lining up at QB and running? I think it will be interesting to see how the GC HC adjusts to running their offense in the rain.

BTW, as of now I have to work tomorrow - so no trip to VA.   :'( :'( I know you are all heartbroken!



ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !  


looking at the two deep that I have he will not play. He may be able to return next week pending on the outcome of his MRI. I feel really bad for him he was having a great year and this happens to him  and if he can not come back then it will be a big loss in the Pride backfield. So lineing up in the backfield for the pride will be SO Clint Story and the second back will the FR Brandon Campbell as we all know Campbell scored the tieing touchdown one week ago to send it to OT. But, with all that being said I agree with Pride if i was the Pride coaches I would keep the freshest legs out there that I could. The awnser that i would give to you your question newbie, i would have to say that Randell Rankins would be the better QB in the rain.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 06, 2006, 12:00:34 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 06, 2006, 10:45:26 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2006, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 06, 2006, 10:38:01 AM
Who keeps takin my carma? And Why????

I have lost 2 in the past hour. I haven't even said anything.

Ive lost 3 and i just now got on. i think it is one of the CNU people. Hey Pride when are you leaving to make the trip and where are you staying?

It's not confined to just you guys. I've lost 3 the last couple of days and all I did was a post congratulating the Huntingdon golf team for winning a tournament. Happy to see I'm not the only one with a karma stalker.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 06, 2006, 12:02:56 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2006, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 06, 2006, 10:38:01 AM
Who keeps takin my carma? And Why????

I have lost 2 in the past hour. I haven't even said anything.

There you go Prideguy!! One point in the improvement column for you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 06, 2006, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 06, 2006, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:32:59 PM
Ballguy,

I admire your belief in your team! They have improved. But (you knew that word was coming) I really don't think this game will be close. If the weather is really bad and it shuts down the GC passing game...and turns into a Hilliard highlight show...it could get ugly. Although, at times Hilliard has a difficult time keeping his footing. Who really knows? we'll find out Saturday.

Given the forecast - are th GC faithful still heading up for the game?


CNU,

I think if it is raining, that it will turn into a field position game. Our punter Chirs Palme is doing a good job pinning team in deap in thier own territory. Last week at Guilford, he pined the Quakers inside the 20 3 times. He has really improved over the span of one year and that includes the field goal kicking as well. So it is going to be interesting to see if the field position battle will tell a different tell this year compared to last years game.


Yeah but was he punting in 30 mph wind on a soaked field?? I know the tarp is on the field right now, but when they take that thing off at 11 am and the rain is still coming, a slick ball on a slick field does not make a punter great.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 06, 2006, 12:05:03 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 06, 2006, 10:53:20 AM
Hey guys here is the forcast for tommorw:


Rain / Thunder

High
68°F

Precip
80%

Wind: NNE 14 mph
Max. Humidity: 88%

UV Index: 4 Moderate

So it does look like its going to be a wet day and the battle of the field position

Thanks for tellin us something that we've already known for 2 days.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 06, 2006, 12:06:33 PM
Damn I hit the 900 plateau!! Whooo hoooo!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2006, 12:08:05 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 05, 2006, 07:03:51 PM

I just got to the thirties and meet the rest of your criteria.  Oh yeah did I read this years benefits correctly?  Are we allowed to go to presidents box at half time?


Depending on the amount given to the Captains Crew. I think to get into the Presidents box for football, you have to give $2,500. No Presidents Box for me!! I can get into the Presidents Room for basketball - that doesn't have as high of a target.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2006, 12:08:53 PM
Quote from: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 05, 2006, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 01:57:27 PM
you could still be playing CNU each year...but the coach chose to play Southern Virginia instead! He was worried about a physical game before the HSC game and conference play.

Okay, fine, we admit; we were and continue to be scared of mighty CNU.

2002: BC 25, CNU 6
2003: CNU 16, BC 12
2003: BC 26, CNU 3 (playoffs)
2004: CNU 21, BC 16

Series is tied 2-2.  BC's two wins were convincing, CNU's weren't.

Also, it seems we played you all during your best years.

So we should be the ones disappointed we don't play anymore. :)

Yea I may be a lil late on this reponse but so what.  Come on kid your a stats guru and this is the best statistical come back you had.  Let me see if I can get this quote remotely correct. Coach Clark "02" take on the CNU/BC series. "CNU is going to be a pretty good team. The first year we will blow them out, the second year they will get a little better and the third year they will be real competative".

Lets see, going by kids stats and what the stats guru failed to explain to make his point Was that in "01" the mighty Eagles played in the Stagg Bowl. The final score was 25-6 but it was 6-0 at halftime. Bwater forced a couple more turnovers in the later quarters to score 25 pts.  Another thing kid failed to mention was that while CNU's offense really failed to move the ball, Bwater offense moved the ball fairly well and eventually won the field position battle.

Lets see "03" the year we were supposed to play them a little better and the year that the Eagles came down to show CNU that it was a fluke that we played them decent  the year before.  Well damn I guess CNU decided to skipped a few steps and punched coach clark and his team in the mouth by winning 16-12.  And yeah we only won by 4 pts but kid you can look this up. CNU has never been known to be an offensive juggernat team. BC however put 80 pts on the board the week prior to playing CNU and was thought to have one of their greatest of all time offensive teams coming to Pomoco.  And yeah Im sure you are going to bring up the playoff game but remember kid when you post the score. Don't forget to mention that CNU turned the ball over 5 times, had maybe 100 yards of total offense, stayed on CNU's side of the field, but still only managed only 26 pts. Now Im not by anyway trying to take away from BW victories but when you really break down the physical make up of both teams those Blowouts/convicing victories get looked at in a different way.

And you might try to say that all of our wins came in Hampton roads area. But remember  the decision was made by your head coach to give up your home game to play us in the oyster bowl. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2006, 12:10:01 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 06, 2006, 12:06:33 PM
Damn I hit the 900 plateau!! Whooo hoooo!!

when you get to about 1300, delete your name and then sign up again....I started over and feel refreshed!! It was a soul cleansing!!!

Hey - I work in Norfolk and we have light rain right now - my wife and son just called me and said in Newport News it is DOWNPOURING!!! I have a leak in my house!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 06, 2006, 12:13:01 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 06, 2006, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 06, 2006, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:32:59 PM
Ballguy,

I admire your belief in your team! They have improved. But (you knew that word was coming) I really don't think this game will be close. If the weather is really bad and it shuts down the GC passing game...and turns into a Hilliard highlight show...it could get ugly. Although, at times Hilliard has a difficult time keeping his footing. Who really knows? we'll find out Saturday.

Given the forecast - are th GC faithful still heading up for the game?


CNU,

I think if it is raining, that it will turn into a field position game. Our punter Chirs Palme is doing a good job pinning team in deap in thier own territory. Last week at Guilford, he pined the Quakers inside the 20 3 times. He has really improved over the span of one year and that includes the field goal kicking as well. So it is going to be interesting to see if the field position battle will tell a different tell this year compared to last years game.


Yeah but was he punting in 30 mph wind on a soaked field?? I know the tarp is on the field right now, but when they take that thing off at 11 am and the rain is still coming, a slick ball on a slick field does not make a punter great.


That is very ture I think it is going to be interesting to see who can hold onto the ball the most that will be a big key in the game with the conditions being the way that they are. So what I am say whoever wins the turnover battle will win the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2006, 12:14:15 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 06, 2006, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 06, 2006, 10:44:26 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:32:59 PM
Ballguy,

I admire your belief in your team! They have improved. But (you knew that word was coming) I really don't think this game will be close. If the weather is really bad and it shuts down the GC passing game...and turns into a Hilliard highlight show...it could get ugly. Although, at times Hilliard has a difficult time keeping his footing. Who really knows? we'll find out Saturday.

Given the forecast - are th GC faithful still heading up for the game?


CNU,

I think if it is raining, that it will turn into a field position game. Our punter Chirs Palme is doing a good job pinning team in deap in thier own territory. Last week at Guilford, he pined the Quakers inside the 20 3 times. He has really improved over the span of one year and that includes the field goal kicking as well. So it is going to be interesting to see if the field position battle will tell a different tell this year compared to last years game.


Yeah but was he punting in 30 mph wind on a soaked field?? I know the tarp is on the field right now, but when they take that thing off at 11 am and the rain is still coming, a slick ball on a slick field does not make a punter great.

Goose Congrats on the 900 posts, and thank you for the Karma.

As for the 30mph winds and a soaked field no.  But Palme did kick with soup all around.  It was the Souper Bowl.  (Yes, that was a corny joke.)  ;) :D ;D

CNU85-You have a leak, and I was going to come over for dinner tonight.  Just Kidding.  My next post I will be at the Hotel.  Good Luck tomorrow.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 06, 2006, 12:25:45 PM
You guys take it easy on the roads, it will be nasty, drive safe and enjoy newport news tonight, if that's even possible!!

PS Live stats for those who cant make the game

http://www.cnusports.com/football/livestats/xlive.htm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 06, 2006, 12:27:57 PM
i am with the team and we are leaving now to head that way and it is rainig here as well now so its goin to be a wet drive the whole way
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2006, 12:53:20 PM
Quote from: wrighthall220 on October 05, 2006, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:09:57 PM
dang ...talk about panties getting all wadded up. I just said the same thing as Llamaguy, but didn't go into the details about the GM club team, Thomas More etc.......and y'all freak out.  Olinemom made the comment about it's hard to schedule tough teams......I just said that the CNU/BC series could have continued...nothing more ...nothing less.....Llama (or maybe someone else) mentioned the reasoning was the way the playoffs are determined for at-large teams, etc. I agree it was smart scheduling by the coach....he figured out the rules, and then found a way to make them work......

I didn't say anything about who beat whom and by how much and what year and who was in their prime years, etc.

Personally, I was hoping that the CNU/BC series would turn into a true in-state, fierce rivalry.

I'll try not to make simple statements based on fact anymore, if it upsets you guys that much.

No panties in a wad here.. we have our own inter-conference rivals to play games against.. personally as a former BC player the CNU game never seemed that interesting when compared to the BC/HSC and BC/W&L match up. The W&L game is pretty intense as they are only about an hour south of Bridgewater and they always come prepared to play.  I would also argue that for the years the we played CNU the HSC/BC game truly determined the best D3 team in VA.  Hell the BC/SU was more fun than playing against CNU.   Those are all true in-state rivals who for the most part give BC good games every year.   But  back to your original point Coach Clark made a smart move by creating a scheule that best suits a team that has a chance to make the playoffs.   But I'd argue that the CNU/BC game was always a side note on the schedule when compared to the other ODAC games which are both always within the state of VA.

CNU85 what you said was right and yeah if you say anything about  the great Bwater college football team their fans will come down on you with everything they have. No one and I mean no one can say a word about Bwater team or coaching staff without being wrong.

You have the nerve to say as of lately the BC/W&L BC/HSC games where more intense than with CNU. Now I will give a few of the HSC games because they were D3 instant classic becuase of how they ended. And then you go as far as to say the SU/BC game was better.  But then I started to put 2 and 2 together.  YOU WON ALL OF THOSE GAMES OF COURSE THATS WHY THEY WERE THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME. You said for the most part give BC a good game every year. In 04 your defense and special teams defeated SU without your offense but yea that was a pretty intense game.

And then you have the nerve to say the HSC/BC game determined the best team in VA the last few years.  I just have a hard time swallowing the fact that the second best team in the state could spot you a 21-3 or so at halftime and then find a way to lose.

And I am also tired of hearing what a smart move Clark made by dropping CNU. Bwater wants to group themselves with the Mount Unions of the world by saying they are running out of teams to play because teams don't want to play the BEST DAMN TEAM IN VA. But  YOUR COACH HAD THE NERVE TO DROP A TEAM THAT WAS WILLING TO PLAY YOU EVERY YEAR FOR THE LIKES OF So Va. or Lagrange.  TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF SCRUB TEAMS TO PLAY.  As a player the CNU game was never that intense or important. So why get rid of it then? The reason behind dropping CNU was that you guys played HSC the week after. That statement is what it is, bottom line is CNU was to tough of a team to play before the HSC showdown. Coach Clark is so smart coach Clark made a great move. Their are so MANY BWATER FANS THAT POST ON HERE THAT YOU CAN MAKE ANY SITUATION SOUND JUST IN MOST PEOPLES EYES.  Well im here to tell you that people like CNU85 and myself  see that situation for what it really is.  And I know others see it that way as well but they don't want to rock the boat and awaken the many Bwater followers. Personally I don't care and IF YOU EVER THOUGHT I DID JUST CHECK MY KARMA.   ;D ;D :o

And Bwater fans can say what ever they want about me and CNU football. But Rowan has beaten us every year and coach K still had the balls to schedule MHB the following week. And unlike your team we have yeat to go undefeated in our conf so you would think we would be the ones looking for an easier schedule. New posters just view BC as the Bullies but I haven't forgotten that before the last 6 seasons BC was the red headed step child.

WITH GREATER RISK COMES GREATER REWARD.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 01:13:45 PM
Is it not every team's goal at the beginning of the year to win a Nat'l Championship?
Scheduling anybody anytime is balzy but will it help you toward your goal EACH year? CNU has proven to fair well so far but it hasn't helped them win playoff games and in some cases has kept them out of the playoffs altogether. I'll accept that BC runs from tough competion during the regular season (lol), but I will also stand by BC's performance against those same tough/playoff teams in the playoffs each year. I guess I just enjoy watching BC Football play after Thanksgiving.

I do agree with some of your points finest, especially the BC/HSC being the battle for best in VA.  That has not been the case for a while.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on October 06, 2006, 01:47:30 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2006, 12:53:20 PM
Quote from: wrighthall220 on October 05, 2006, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:09:57 PM
dang ...talk about panties getting all wadded up. I just said the same thing as Llamaguy, but didn't go into the details about the GM club team, Thomas More etc.......and y'all freak out.  Olinemom made the comment about it's hard to schedule tough teams......I just said that the CNU/BC series could have continued...nothing more ...nothing less.....Llama (or maybe someone else) mentioned the reasoning was the way the playoffs are determined for at-large teams, etc. I agree it was smart scheduling by the coach....he figured out the rules, and then found a way to make them work......

I didn't say anything about who beat whom and by how much and what year and who was in their prime years, etc.

Personally, I was hoping that the CNU/BC series would turn into a true in-state, fierce rivalry.

I'll try not to make simple statements based on fact anymore, if it upsets you guys that much.

No panties in a wad here.. we have our own inter-conference rivals to play games against.. personally as a former BC player the CNU game never seemed that interesting when compared to the BC/HSC and BC/W&L match up. The W&L game is pretty intense as they are only about an hour south of Bridgewater and they always come prepared to play.  I would also argue that for the years the we played CNU the HSC/BC game truly determined the best D3 team in VA.  Hell the BC/SU was more fun than playing against CNU.   Those are all true in-state rivals who for the most part give BC good games every year.   But  back to your original point Coach Clark made a smart move by creating a scheule that best suits a team that has a chance to make the playoffs.   But I'd argue that the CNU/BC game was always a side note on the schedule when compared to the other ODAC games which are both always within the state of VA.

CNU85 what you said was right and yeah if you say anything about  the great Bwater college football team their fans will come down on you with everything they have. No one and I mean no one can say a word about Bwater team or coaching staff without being wrong.

You have the nerve to say as of lately the BC/W&L BC/HSC games where more intense than with CNU. Now I will give a few of the HSC games because they were D3 instant classic becuase of how they ended. And then you go as far as to say the SU/BC game was better.  But then I started to put 2 and 2 together.  YOU WON ALL OF THOSE GAMES OF COURSE THATS WHY THEY WERE THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME. You said for the most part give BC a good game every year. In 04 your defense and special teams defeated SU without your offense but yea that was a pretty intense game.

And then you have the nerve to say the HSC/BC game determined the best team in VA the last few years.  I just have a hard time swallowing the fact that the second best team in the state could spot you a 21-3 or so at halftime and then find a way to lose.

And I am also tired of hearing what a smart move Clark made by dropping CNU. Bwater wants to group themselves with the Mount Unions of the world by saying they are running out of teams to play because teams don't want to play the BEST DAMN TEAM IN VA. But  YOUR COACH HAD THE NERVE TO DROP A TEAM THAT WAS WILLING TO PLAY YOU EVERY YEAR FOR THE LIKES OF So Va. or Lagrange.  TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF SCRUB TEAMS TO PLAY.  As a player the CNU game was never that intense or important. So why get rid of it then? The reason behind dropping CNU was that you guys played HSC the week after. That statement is what it is, bottom line is CNU was to tough of a team to play before the HSC showdown. Coach Clark is so smart coach Clark made a great move. Their are so MANY BWATER FANS THAT POST ON HERE THAT YOU CAN MAKE ANY SITUATION SOUND JUST IN MOST PEOPLES EYES.  Well im here to tell you that people like CNU85 and myself  see that situation for what it really is.  And I know others see it that way as well but they don't want to rock the boat and awaken the many Bwater followers. Personally I don't care and IF YOU EVER THOUGHT I DID JUST CHECK MY KARMA.   ;D ;D :o

And Bwater fans can say what ever they want about me and CNU football. But Rowan has beaten us every year and coach K still had the balls to schedule MHB the following week. And unlike your team we have yeat to go undefeated in our conf so you would think we would be the ones looking for an easier schedule. New posters just view BC as the Bullies but I haven't forgotten that before the last 6 seasons BC was the red headed step child.

WITH GREATER RISK COMES GREATER REWARD.

Dear lord.. now that is a entire 6 pack of panties in a wad!  :D  I don't have the time to go into everyone of your thoughts but I for one know that BC CAN do wrong as can the Coaching staff.. I saw a few things first hand... but to debunk your entire post all I have to do is go to your last line. 
QuoteWITH GREATER RISK COMES GREATER REWARD.
Until CNU does something special outside of winning their conference(*which is deep this year)  I fail to see your point.  Just as BC schedules a team like SU or LaGrange, Rowan sees CNU as a good warm up for their tougher teams as does MHB.. now this year MHB got bit in the butt with that gamble just as BC almost did with SU a few years ago.  Until CNU advances deep into the playoffs I would stand by the fact that your statement doesn't apply to CNU.  It's nothing personal but your CNU-Spin is no different than those of us that spin positive things about BC.. it's all about what Kool-Aid you drink or what pair of rose colored glasses you wear.  BC dropped CNU.. it seems to have hurt CNU's feelings more than it has BC's because we've moved on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 06, 2006, 01:55:02 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:09:57 PM
dang ...talk about panties getting all wadded up. [blah, blah, blah]

Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2006, 12:53:20 PM
CNU85 what you said was right and yeah if you say anything about  the great Bwater college football team their fans will come down on you with everything they have. [blah, blah, blah]

Fan A posts something, Fan B responds.

Welcome to the concept of message forums.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 06, 2006, 02:30:50 PM
Quote from: wrighthall220 on October 06, 2006, 01:47:30 PMBC dropped CNU.. it seems to have hurt CNU's feelings more than it has BC's because we've moved on.

isn't that the way it always is...the dumpee usually feels much worse than the dumper, no?

as an outsider, i can see both sides of the bc/cnu issue - in some ways, i applaud coach clark for looking "big picture" and for his candor and honesty - at the same time, it seems a little unlike a football coach to openly and admittedly dodge a tough game that might make winning a key conference game more difficult...you can't argue with the results, but it just doesn't seem congruent with the football mentality

i also applaud coach kelchner for taking on any and all comers - while this philosophy has not yet produced glorious ncaa results that back this strategy, i disagree with the bc contingent on one point they seem to be implying...i don't think it's HURT them one bit

i think that folks around the country respect the cnu program because they know they'll play anyone, anytime...bc has respect nationally because of what they've done in the playoffs the last 5-7 years, or so - either way, you're talking about 2 great programs, with great coaching staffs that simply have a different strategy - for me personally, give me the coach that takes on anyone and let's the chips fall where they may
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 06, 2006, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 06, 2006, 01:55:02 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:09:57 PM
dang ...talk about panties getting all wadded up. [blah, blah, blah]

Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2006, 12:53:20 PM
CNU85 what you said was right and yeah if you say anything about  the great Bwater college football team their fans will come down on you with everything they have. [blah, blah, blah]

Fan A posts something, Fan B responds.

Welcome to the concept of message forums.

Ain't it GREAT ! !  ;D

Must be Friday . . . . :D

Where else but a football forum can you talk about panties and it not be pornographic . . . . gotta love it!!  8)
(The Game , I mean.) (The Football Game, I mean.) ::)

Nothing like mud, rain, guts and blood for a terrific football game - as long as it doesn't give the loser an excuse! :'(






ROLL PRIDE ! ! !

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 06, 2006, 02:38:23 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 06, 2006, 02:32:31 PM
Quote from: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 06, 2006, 01:55:02 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2006, 03:09:57 PM
dang ...talk about panties getting all wadded up. [blah, blah, blah]

Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2006, 12:53:20 PM
CNU85 what you said was right and yeah if you say anything about  the great Bwater college football team their fans will come down on you with everything they have. [blah, blah, blah]

Fan A posts something, Fan B responds.

Welcome to the concept of message forums.

Ain't it GREAT ! !  ;D

Must be Friday . . . . :D

Where else but a football forum can you talk about panties and it not be pornographic . . . . gotta love it!!  8)
(The Game , I mean.) (The Football Game, I mean.) ::)

Nothing like mud, rain, guts and blood for a terrific football game - as long as it doesn't give the loser an excuse! :'(

ROLL PRIDE ! ! !

Oh you know it will be an excuse for the loser!!!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 06, 2006, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 06, 2006, 02:38:23 PMOh you know it will be an excuse for the loser!!!  ;)

either that or the officials :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 06, 2006, 02:49:53 PM
Quote from: narch on October 06, 2006, 02:46:48 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 06, 2006, 02:38:23 PMOh you know it will be an excuse for the loser!!!  ;)

either that or the officials :)

Oh yeah!! I forgot about the officials! Just like in basketball!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2006, 04:49:26 PM
Llama,

Actually CNU not making the playoffs ONCE was due to conference losses, not the tough non conference schedule. And Rugbyguy is faster than you!  :o

Kid - man, we used to get along, then you become part of the d3football.com staff and well........you can fill in the blanks!  :D

I know the GC folks have left already.....hopefully when you read this you're in a warm, dry hotel room. That trip is gonna suck. I hate driving home in it from Norfolk.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2006, 05:48:10 PM
Well CNU fans, Newport News is a little greener now, that I a Pride fan is here.  I got in a little accident, nothing too bad.  No damage done.  My brother was driving, he is alright.  (Just a little hit on the back)

Time for Fazzolis.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 06:02:20 PM
Quote
i also applaud coach kelchner for taking on any and all comers - while this philosophy has not yet produced glorious ncaa results that back this strategy, i disagree with the bc contingent on one point they seem to be implying...i don't think it's HURT them one bit

Question then, Had there not been a fumble at the goalline Week 2 would you still be saying it hasn't hurt them? They would have 2 losses and no doubt that the only way into the playoffs is to win the NEW balanced USAC.
Quote
i think that folks around the country respect the cnu program because they know they'll play anyone, anytime...bc has respect nationally because of what they've done in the playoffs the last 5-7 years, or so - either way, you're talking about 2 great programs, with great coaching staffs that simply have a different strategy - for me personally, give me the coach that takes on anyone and let's the chips fall where they may

Of course you would say that Narch. When was the last time Methodist was in a playoff football game? Once you get a taste you want more. And don't say that its a cheap way to get into the playoffs b'cus actually its the SMART way. BC can compete with any of the South region team anytime, they just choose to do it when the chips are down in the playoffs.

A good analogy would be you playing the toughest schedule in the nation for Methodist baseball. You can't tell me you wouldn't miss the playoff atmosphere just a little. Agree?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 06, 2006, 08:05:23 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 06, 2006, 04:49:26 PM
Kid - man, we used to get along, then you become part of the d3football.com staff and well........you can fill in the blanks!  :D

I was just stating facts.  Don't get your panties all in a wad. :D (joking, of course) :)

Oh, and I don't think I can be considered a staff member.  I just help out whenever they need me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 06, 2006, 08:33:29 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 06:02:20 PM
...
Question then, Had there not been a fumble at the goalline Week 2 would you still be saying it hasn't hurt them? They would have 2 losses and no doubt that the only way into the playoffs is to win the NEW balanced USAC.
...


The Rowan loss is not an in-region loss and so is not one of the primary criteria.

The Rowan game is one of those that lets a team play a D3 opponent with major consequences to its Pool C hopes.

If a football power has trouble finding oppnents, then it should schedule a "non-region" D3 opponent for the sake of the competition, and for the high profile game that it provides!

Currently CNU is 3-0 in South Region play and has 6 South Region games remaining.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 09:12:34 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 06, 2006, 08:33:29 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 06:02:20 PM
...
Question then, Had there not been a fumble at the goalline Week 2 would you still be saying it hasn't hurt them? They would have 2 losses and no doubt that the only way into the playoffs is to win the NEW balanced USAC.
...


The Rowan loss is not an in-region loss and so is not one of the primary criteria.

The Rowan game is one of those that lets a team play a D3 opponent with major consequences to its Pool C hopes.

If a football power has trouble finding oppnents, then it should schedule a "non-region" D3 opponent for the sake of the competition, and for the high profile game that it provides!

Currently CNU is 3-0 in South Region play and has 6 South Region games remaining.

Good point Ralph! I should have elaborated further in that the scheduling goal is to also go 10-0 so "said" playoff team can avoid going to play in TX! :o Now if HSU takes care of business this weekend a 10-0 BC with a weak QOWI still won't avoid that trip. :-\ You can bet that if we do make the playoffs this year and go to TX I will be there to meet you in person though. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 06, 2006, 09:23:43 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 09:12:34 PM


Good point Ralph! I should have elaborated further in that the scheduling goal is to also go 10-0 so "said" playoff team can avoid going to play in TX! :o Now if HSU takes care of business this weekend a 10-0 BC with a weak QOWI still won't avoid that trip. :-\ You can bet that if we do make the playoffs this year and go to TX I will be there to meet you in person though. ;)


Boy you guys at BC would AVOID playing all the tough games if you could.  I tell you what, if you don't want to go to texas, let CNU go for you.  You guys are like a bunch of girls.

No wonder you keep talking about panties.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 06, 2006, 09:37:04 PM
Kelchner needs to just schedule the top 3 teams every year.  It would gaurantee that we play the best year in and year out win or lose.  That would be fun and that is what playing something is all about.

All this talk of BC being smart by ducking good opponents is just obsurd.  Yes they have won more playoff games than CNU but according to LLama the national title is the point.

How many of those do you have listed at the bottom of your brag line.

One of you guys with the stats should figure out how CNU has done against the top 25 teams compared to BC over the past 6 years, I think it would be interesting.  I do know one thing for sure.  BC has just as many playoff losses if not more.
How many top 25 teams has each played, who won etc... 

This year we have played 2 top tens (at the time) and are 1 and 1. not too bad.  who has BC played?   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 06, 2006, 09:37:50 PM
Bridgewater has gotten a lot closer than CNU has, fwiw.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 06, 2006, 09:45:37 PM
So if the point is National Championships they have lost as much as us.

Were not playing horse shoes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 06, 2006, 09:48:45 PM
At least we play the best, hit hard and have fun.

and that is what football is all about.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 06, 2006, 09:23:43 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 09:12:34 PM


Good point Ralph! I should have elaborated further in that the scheduling goal is to also go 10-0 so "said" playoff team can avoid going to play in TX! :o Now if HSU takes care of business this weekend a 10-0 BC with a weak QOWI still won't avoid that trip. :-\ You can bet that if we do make the playoffs this year and go to TX I will be there to meet you in person though. ;)


Boy you guys at BC would AVOID playing all the tough games if you could.  I tell you what, if you don't want to go to texas, let CNU go for you.  You guys are like a bunch of girls.

No wonder you keep talking about panties.

Sorry Lifer but I see why your Karma line looks the way it does. I was refering to the fans avoiding  a trip to Texas. The team could care less where they play in the playoffs as long as the field is regulation and has uprights. I feed 50-75 fans weekly at Stone Station and its alot easier to haul my pull behind grill 20 miles than all the way to Texas.
I assume you played at CNU so I wouldn't want to steal your "moral" victories against Top 10 opponents. As for the Top 25 comparison, I'm sure Kid is already on the scene and I too would be interested to see the results. Based on the fact that neither the USAC or the ODAC normally has more than 1 team in the Top 25, BC's playoff victories alone should more than cover your 1 big regular season win a year. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 06, 2006, 10:04:34 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 06:02:20 PM
Question then, Had there not been a fumble at the goalline Week 2 would you still be saying it hasn't hurt them? They would have 2 losses and no doubt that the only way into the playoffs is to win the NEW balanced USAC.
since it didn't happen we'll never know...to this point, a tough ooc schedule has never hurt cnu...if cnu loses to averett but wins out and averett wins out it could help them...i think they'd have an outside shot at the tournament because of schedule strength...it's happened before, you know - unfortunately for your eagles, if they lose the conference, they're done

Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 06:02:20 PMOf course you would say that Narch. When was the last time Methodist was in a playoff football game?
hasn't happened yet

Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 06:02:20 PMAnd don't say that its a cheap way to get into the playoffs b'cus actually its the SMART way. BC can compete with any of the South region team anytime, they just choose to do it when the chips are down in the playoffs.
i never said it wasn't the smart thing...just not the way i would prefer to see my team operate as a fan, if i had a choice...i'm not making judgement on coach clark and his philosophy (the monarchs haven't exactly scheduled ooc powerhouses lately, either), just saying if i had to choose between the two as a fan, i'd rather have a coach who challenges his team to the max and let's the chips fall...as a fan, you're entitled to espouse the scheduling philosophy that you choose, but i suspect that if b'water played cnu's schedule and vice-versa, you'd still be singing the praises of the b'water scheduling philosophy - i think your preference has more to do with the team and person doing the scheduling than it does the scheduling philosophy itself, and that's certainly understandable

Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 06:02:20 PMA good analogy would be you playing the toughest schedule in the nation for Methodist baseball. You can't tell me you wouldn't miss the playoff atmosphere just a little. Agree?
happened two years ago...the monarchs had one of the toughest schedules in the country and 30+ wins and were left out...it sucked, and i was pee'd off as a fan, but the monarchs didn't take care of business in the conference tournament...how is that a good analogy to bc's football schedule???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 10:12:27 PM
 Narch, a 9-1 Bridgewater without a conference championship would more than likely receive a Pool C if nothing else based on past playoff performance. It ain't fair but its the way it works sometimes.

You are right it isn't a good analogy b'cus BC hasn't missed the playoffs in the last 6 years! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 06, 2006, 10:14:16 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 06, 2006, 09:23:43 PM

...  I tell you what, if you don't want to go to texas, let CNU go for you.  You guys are like a bunch of girls.
...

Goodness, CNUlifer. If you are this active with your posts next September when the Captains come to Belton (it is a home-and-home, isn't it?), you will provide so much bulletin board material that the CRU will be waiting.

In the history of the D3 Playoffs since 1999,  "Texas"  (the ASC plus Trinity) is 7-2 against non-Texas teams in Texas.  When Texas teams go on the road, they are still 3-2 at their opponents plus the 2 Stagg Bowl losses, Trinity in 2002 and UMHB in 2004.  That is why no one wants to come to Texas for the playoffs.

Remember, that 2004 UMHB won on the road at Trinity, at HSU, at Bridgewater, at Mount Union for the first time since 1994.

If UMHB has the chance to play you again this playoff season, I think that they will relish the opportunity.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 06, 2006, 10:19:22 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 10:12:27 PM
Narch, a 9-1 Bridgewater without a conference championship would more than likely receive a Pool C if nothing else based on past playoff performance. ...

Llama, past playoff performance was dropped from the criteria a few years ago. :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2006, 10:30:10 PM
WOW even the great Pat C. is a Bwater fan. THE THING THAT STARTED ALL OF THIS WAS THE COMMENT MADE BY OLINEMOM. SHE STATED THAT BWATER HAS A HARD TIME FINDING TEAMS TO PLAY. YOU CANT CRY ABOUT FINDING TEAMS TO PLAY IF YOUR COACH IS DUCKING THE GOOD ONES END OF DISCUSSION.

Question then, Had there not been a fumble at the goalline Week 2 would you still be saying it hasn't hurt them? They would have 2 losses and no doubt that the only way into the playoffs is to win the NEW balanced USAC.


Come on Llama don't even go there with the what ifs. Last time I checked IF IT WASN'T FROM AN EXXXXXXXXTTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNDED CLOCK BWATER JUST MIGHT NOT HAVE MADE THAT LEAP INTO A NATIONAL POWERHOUSE. And then Pat wouldn't be able to come on here and say "well they have gotten a lot closer than CNU".  A lot of the success that your team has gotten now came from a game that they SHOULD HAVE NEVER PLAYED IN. And kid is real good with stats, pictures, and video clips. I think the Rowan clip was titled "when time stood still". I watched that clip and THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU GET TWO PLAYS OFf IN LESS THAN 10 SECONDS. So don't you ever talk what ifs with me.  Yeah your home clock operator probably got a NICE GIFT IN THE MAIL FROM BC ALUMNUS.  

But I will give you BC fans some credit. Your following is SO GREAT NOW THAT YOU EVEN GOT THE BC BLINDERS ON THE CREATOR OF THIS WEBSITE.

Its just real funny how you guys try to forget your dirty past. WOW!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 06, 2006, 10:36:23 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 06, 2006, 10:14:16 PM


If UMHB has the chance to play you again this playoff season, I think that they will relish the opportunity.

I just hope we can get to playoffs again.  it is a fun experience.  don't really care who we play.  UMHB should want us bad.  we made them look bad.  we have 7 new starters on D and they got 10 pts.  now they are averaging over 30 a game along with everyone else in texas.  BC does like them cause thay don't play D like us.  with all this rah rah going on I would like to restate that I just hope we make the playoffs.  more games more fun

Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 10:12:27 PM
Narch, a 9-1 Bridgewater without a conference championship would more than likely receive a Pool C if nothing else based on past playoff performance.

Hate to burst your bubble but if CNU loses 1 in conference and BC does the same we have you with the strength of out of conference opponents.  That is why I root for UMHB on their board.  They win and our stock rises.  If you do lose though, you might want to rethink that whole hey were smart thing.  you may just think yourself right out of the playoffs.

oh yea thanks for letting everyone know that the Mighty Captains beat you twice.

and I never played a down in college.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 06, 2006, 10:44:54 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 10:12:27 PMYou are right it isn't a good analogy b'cus BC hasn't missed the playoffs in the last 6 years! ;D
nor is their schedule among the toughest in the nation (as is the case with monarch baseball) :)

Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 10:12:27 PMNarch, a 9-1 Bridgewater without a conference championship would more than likely receive a Pool C if nothing else based on past playoff performance. It ain't fair but its the way it works sometimes.
i don't think you'll have anything to worry about, 'cause i don't see any of the odac teams really challenging bc for that title, but it would be interesting to see how bc fans reacted if they did go 9-1 and miss the playoffs...i bet there would be more than a few bc fans questioning the scheduling philosophy...maybe not publicly, but it would happen - there certainly would be a group of fans that said "told you so" :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2006, 10:51:45 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 10:12:27 PM
Narch, a 9-1 Bridgewater without a conference championship would more than likely receive a Pool C if nothing else based on past playoff performance. It ain't fair but its the way it works sometimes.

You are right it isn't a good analogy b'cus BC hasn't missed the playoffs in the last 6 years! ;D

You would think this team has more National titles than Mount Union. The nerve of this guy to say something like that. And yeah he might say he was joking but the fact of the matter is you had the nerve to post that because deep down thats how you really feel.
Talk about forgetting your past.

Look I don't have any problems with BC fans, players, etc. I love how you guys are die hard for your team because I'm that way for CNU. So don't ever think that this CNU fan is ever jealous of anything that BC has accomplished in the last 6 years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 06, 2006, 10:53:16 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 06, 2006, 10:14:16 PM

Goodness, CNUlifer. If you are this active with your posts next September when the Captains come to Belton (it is a home-and-home, isn't it?), you will provide so much bulletin board material that the CRU will be waiting.


Someone on the ASC board said UMHB got a week 1 pass.  Does CNU get one too?  I think UMHB took us a little lightly.  they saw a team in flux that did not make the playoffs the year before.  The embarassment of going back to Benton with a loss to a team that their local paper had said they would demolish would be all the bulletin material they should ever need.  I never said anything bas about UMHB.  Imerely pointed out on the ASC board that they played poorly in their secondary for one game.  I will say this though.  If we go down to Benton and win next year, all of you who gave any of us CNU guys a hard time better kiss our collective Karma.  

If any CNU fan does not agree I apologize for including you in my rant.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 06, 2006, 10:55:53 PM
Hey finest,

if you are who I think you are, did you get held a much as 97 did in 2004 against W&J?

I was there and his shirt looked to be stretched out on every single play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 06, 2006, 10:59:15 PM
CNULifer, I think that you are smart to root for UMHB.  I think that the committee will look favorably on CNU head-to-head with UMHB.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 06, 2006, 11:06:29 PM
I be smart cuz I gots my edgumication from CNU.  Not that uppity school in bridgewater where they teach how to live in the past.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 11:44:33 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 06, 2006, 10:19:22 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 06, 2006, 10:12:27 PM
Narch, a 9-1 Bridgewater without a conference championship would more than likely receive a Pool C if nothing else based on past playoff performance. ...

Llama, past playoff performance was dropped from the criteria a few years ago. :-\

Yeah I know that Ralph, but you know as well as I do that there are conferences that go 9-1 and are considered way below a 3 loss OAC school for example. I'm just saying the history would subjectively come into play with the committee. IMHO
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 07, 2006, 12:18:05 AM
The kid is AWOL so I did the tabulating myself.
Here is your Records against Top 25 Comparison:
*based on the D3Football Top 25 the week the game was played & game releases

CNU    Record: 4-11  (2001-present)

2001:
7-56   Loss   Widener
2002:
7-34   Loss   Rowan
6-25   Loss   Bridgewater
10-24 Loss   W&J
2003:
0-21   Loss   Rowan
16-12 Win    Bridgewater
3-26   Loss   Bridgewater
2004:
32-33 Loss   Rowan
21-16 Win    Bridgewater
35-24 Win    Salisbury
14-24 Loss   W&J
2005:
14-21 Loss   Rowan
24-44 Loss   Salisbury
2006:
8-32   Loss    Rowan
15-10 Win     UMHB

Bridgewater:   Record: 12-7 (2000-present)

2000:
59-42  Win    W&J
41-47  Loss   Trinity
2001:
41-37  Win    Trinity
57-32  Win    Widener
29-24  Win    Rowan
27-30  Loss   Mt Union
2002:
32-38  Loss   Trinity
2003:
31-28  Win    Hampden-Sydney
28-24  Win    Waynesburg
26-3    Win    CNU
13-9    Win    Lycoming
0-66    Loss   Mt Union
2004:
16-21  Loss   CNU
37-28  Win    Hampden-Sydney
48-55  Loss(2OT) W&J
2005:
31-24  Win    Hampden-Sydney
30-21  Win    W&J
24-13  Win    Thiel
7-46    Loss   Wesley

So I guess that 27% winning percentage against Top 25 competition does make Bridgewater's cupcake, scared to play the big boys record look pretty bad, aye?  :o

Get into the playoffs and actually win more than you lose, then we can talk about CNU the mighty Top 25 killers. :D

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 07, 2006, 12:28:02 AM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 06, 2006, 11:06:29 PM
I be smart cuz I gots my edgumication from CNU.  Not that uppity school in bridgewater where they teach how to live in the past.

reply #2426
Hey finest,

if you are who I think you are, did you get held a much as 97 did in 2004  against W&J?

I was there and his shirt looked to be stretched out on every single play.


Now that right there is just plain hilarious! :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 07, 2006, 12:44:45 AM
Dude, just trying to figure out who he is.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 07, 2006, 12:45:04 AM
the only thing that matters is making it to the national championship game which i think we all can agree on....last time I checked BC would have only made it to the national championship game unless they had that bogus time keeper keeping time for the game!  I'm not a CNU fan by any stretch, come on...that was the most obsurb thing I've seen in football in a long time!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 07, 2006, 12:51:44 AM
Hey thanks for the time to figure that out.

I was just trying to see how many games we played against top teams since 2001.  15 for CNU and 17 for BC.  Not bad.  We play the best that we can every year.  Even if we don't make the playoffs.  As a fan that is awesome.  we don't have to wait for playoff time to see a good football game and have great experiences traveling to some of the best schools in DIII.  Would be nice to not travel with defribulators though.  Don't you BC fans get bored with stomping the same old teams every year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 07, 2006, 12:57:34 AM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 07, 2006, 12:44:45 AM
Dude, just trying to figure out who he is.

By crying about someone who's number was 97 and was HELD all day by W&J in 2004?  ;D


Papi,
The National Championship comment refered to why BC or any team schedules itself the best way possible to get into the playoffs. I can guarantee that if you are not invited to the playoffs, you will never win a Nat'l Championship. Check the posts, no where was it even mentioned about BC's appearance in the 2001 Nat'l Championship game, atleast by me. I saw the clip just like the rest of you and have never once bragged about making it to the Stagg Bowl. The NCAA made the decision not to overturn the result and I don't even address anyone about it anymore. Wouldn't want to live in the past you know! ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 07, 2006, 01:14:26 AM
I am prroud to say that the Grreensboro Prride have never lost a playoff game!! :-\

AND . . . . before they moved the Amos Alonzo Stagg Bowl out of the Deep South, I bet I played more games in that stadium than any one else on here ! !

Wad that up in yor panties . . .  :-* =HEY, where's that jug'o shine . . . . . it IS Friday nite, after all  :D

sorry - I get a little shaky when I got no karma . . .  :'(           


THANKS, LLAMAGUY! NOW I FEEL BETTER . . . . 0 is such a lonely number!  8)



ROLL TIDE ! ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 07, 2006, 10:19:29 AM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 07, 2006, 12:44:45 AM
Dude, just trying to figure out who he is.

Its obvious who he is CNULifer!! Check his profile!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 07, 2006, 11:02:06 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 06, 2006, 09:37:50 PM
Bridgewater has gotten a lot closer than CNU has, fwiw.

Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2006, 10:30:10 PM
WOW even the great Pat C. is a Bwater fan.

Quote from: CNULifer on October 06, 2006, 10:36:23 PM
*insert a bunch of dumb stuff*

Again, you CNUers are missing the point.

Pat stated a fact.  He's not one to elaborate, he simply hopes the posters and readers of the board are smart enough to get it.  Clearly not in this case.

So I'll do the elaboration for him;

Bridgewater's football history: http://bridgewaterfootball.com/playoffhistory.html

I couldn't find a page on CNU's playoff history, so this is what it would look like...

2004
CNU def. No. 18 Salisbury by 11, then lost to W&J by 10 (who then lost to MHB by 36)

2003
CNU def. unranked Muhlenberg by 4, then lost to Bridgewater by 23 (who then lost to MUC by 66).

2002
CNU lost to W&J by 14 (who then lost to Trinity by 35)


I surmise a couple things here. You had one nice win, against the Gulls (on the road). Other than that, you had a win against unranked Muhlenberg. The three teams you would lose to would eventually lose by tons (yes, including BC). What does this mean?

I'd venture to say that playing tough non-conference opponents during the regular season has prepared you for beating who you should beat, and losing to whom you should lose to.  Doesn't sound very productive to me.

Now, do us BC fans think we are MUC?  Absolutely not.  What I do know is that Bridgewater's "cupcake" regular season schedule has put us in a group with only Mount Union and Trinity, as one of three schools to make the playoffs the last six years.  Not impressed because we had a "cupcake" schedule?  How about this...

Over the last six years, here are the schools I found with at least five playoffs wins (I also included first round byes)...


SchoolWinsByesTotal
1Mount Union21526
2St. John's15116
3Bridgewater10212
Linfield9312
5Rowan8210
6Trinity707
7Mary Hardin-Baylor505

Not bad company to be in for a school who dodges regular season competition.  Something must be working right.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 07, 2006, 11:25:50 AM
Quote from: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 07, 2006, 11:02:06 AM


Over the last six years, here are the schools I found with at least five playoffs wins (I also included first round byes)...


SchoolWinsByesTotalStagg Bowls
1Mount Union215262000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005
2St. John's151162000, 2003
3Bridgewater102122001
Linfield93122004
5Rowan8210None
6Trinity7072002
7Mary Hardin-Baylor5052004

Not bad company to be in for a school who dodges regular season competition.  Something must be working right.

Except for Rowan, from the East Region, everyone else has made the Stagg Bowl.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2006, 11:30:42 AM
Yep, and Rowan made the Stagg in 1999, so it's not like they're chopped liver either.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 07, 2006, 11:45:53 AM
my oh my. and it's not even playoff season yet.

LLama give em he!!.

CNU fans ... at least you have a passion

Pat ... When does your dictionary of explainations come out so there edgy cated Cnu fans can GET IT?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:52:25 AM
Man, I leave the bored for 1/2 a day and it lights up. A few things to say:

1. Kid - you and are good - I like the banter.
2. Llama - great guy...a little slow
3. CNU LIfer - can't be older than 24......
4. all others - don't lump me into the same category as "CNUers" when you are responding to comments from Lifer....I like his passion, but don't necessarily agree with his comments
5. Last comment on the BC issue - I just made a simple reply to Olinemom about her compaint about not being able to schedule tough teams....we forgot to ask her....maybe she never considered CNU a tough team....who said she was even talking about CNU?  ;D

Finally - my prediction for today's game...if it's still on... I hear thunder.....this will be a low scoring game due to the weather. It's not currently raniing but the entire area is soaked........GC will be shutout! CNU wins 26-0....a dry sunny day and it would be 49-0.

time to go find my raincoat.....last time I saw it (oh man I could go somewhere real bad with that, llama....I'll keep it clean).....last time I saw it llama wanted to borrow it!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 07, 2006, 12:15:16 PM
Hey everyone, This was in the Winchester Star today and also in the school newspaper. I hope you all get a chance to watch it.


from the winchester star;

NBC profiles SU

Star Staff Report
WINCHESTER — Shenandoah University will appear at 6:30 p.m. Sunday on NBC's Nightly News, school officials say.
The broadcast will focus on how the NCAA Division III school is attracting more men to campus with its athletic programs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 07, 2006, 12:57:08 PM
here's what i don't understand...coach clark admitted that he didn't want to play cnu because he thought it would interfere with preparations for hsc...why are you guys arguing?...your coach came out and said he didn't want to play a tough game before such an important conference game - as fans, you can't then claim that you can't find tough games...you've got a tough opponent who is, no doubt, willing to play you and they're right within the borders of your own state - sorry, but you can't have it both ways...your coach can't dodge cnu because they would interfere with preparation for hsc and then have the fans claim you can't get a tough game

i normally think those at private colleges are much more intelligent than those at a public school, but i've got to side with the cnu folks here (wow, did i really say that ???)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on October 07, 2006, 01:52:15 PM
In 2001, (then) Western Maryland was a top 25 team for the opener in Bridgewater. BC won that game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 07, 2006, 02:06:17 PM

Halftime at Christopher Newport:

The Mighy CNU Captains - 7
Greensboro Pride - 0

The Defenses of both teams have totally dominated this game with CNU having 19 yards total offense and GC having 34 yards. No completions for The Pride, but two INTs.  Two completions for CNU and one INT.

CNU scored on a blocked punt out of GC's endzone. CNU winning battle of field position with GC punter averaging only 25 yards a kick and CNU punter averaging 39 yards a kick. Teams look to be pretty evenly matched at this point.



ROLL PRIDE ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 07, 2006, 02:09:04 PM
Anyone have any other scores?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 02:15:32 PM
Ferrum 7

Maryville 0

1st qtr. 2pm start
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 07, 2006, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 07, 2006, 02:09:04 PM
Anyone have any other scores?

Some ODAC scores...

E&H 14, H-SC 10 (half)

W&L 7, CUA 0 (half)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 02:23:55 PM
Ferrum 7

Maryville 3

29 yd FG for Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 07, 2006, 02:30:12 PM
Gullet...you are officially on crack.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 02:34:48 PM
Ferrum fumbles and Mayville recovers at the FC 5
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 02:35:57 PM
Maryville 2nd and goal at the FC 3. End of the 1st qtr.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 02:37:28 PM
3rd and goal from the FC 31/2 yd. line
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 02:38:18 PM
Maryville scores-

Maryville 10
FC 7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 02:39:56 PM
Maryville recovers an onside kick
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 02:45:51 PM
Ferrum fumbles again
Maryville recovers inside the FC 20
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 02:48:48 PM
Maryville has the ball 4th and inches inside the FC 10
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 02:51:01 PM
Maryville 2nd and goal inside the FC 5
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 07, 2006, 02:53:25 PM
CNU leads 14-0 after 3

the pride are not lookin good at all right  now they have to get some offense goin
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 02:54:08 PM
3rd and goal from the FC 7 Maryville passes incomplete.

FG good

Maryville 13
Ferrum7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 07, 2006, 02:55:39 PM
Start of 4th:

CNU 14
GC     0

4 INTs for The Pride = and the defense may be getting tired! Last punt for GC was 5 yards!


COME ON PRIDE ! ! ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 07, 2006, 02:57:18 PM
How much time and quarter in the Mville/FC game??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 07, 2006, 02:59:34 PM
On GC's last punt, the snap went over Palme's head but he still got the punt off, it was just a lot deeper than anticipated.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 07, 2006, 03:03:40 PM
Captains pouring it on in the second half and now lead 21-0 with 10:42 left in the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 03:05:28 PM
Ferrum Pitts passes to soph. WR for a TD to give the Panthers the lead 14-13
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 03:06:36 PM
2:01 left in the 1st half
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 03:13:00 PM
Halftime at W.B. Adams Stadium in beautiful downtown Ferrum Virginia

Maryville completes a pass down to the Panther 2 yd. line as the half expires.

Ferrum Panthers 14

Maryville Scots 13
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 07, 2006, 03:14:59 PM
Quote from: narch on October 07, 2006, 12:57:08 PM
here's what i don't understand...coach clark admitted that he didn't want to play cnu because he thought it would interfere with preparations for hsc...why are you guys arguing?...your coach came out and said he didn't want to play a tough game before such an important conference game - as fans, you can't then claim that you can't find tough games...you've got a tough opponent who is, no doubt, willing to play you and they're right within the borders of your own state - sorry, but you can't have it both ways...your coach can't dodge cnu because they would interfere with preparation for hsc and then have the fans claim you can't get a tough game

i normally think those at private colleges are much more intelligent than those at a public school, but i've got to side with the cnu folks here (wow, did i really say that ???)

For what its worth Narch, the people who were discussing the strength of BC's schedule had nothing to say about FINDING worthy opponents. You would have to address Olinemom to defend that one as I am perfectly fine with who we have scheduled. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 07, 2006, 03:22:52 PM
CNU 28
GC  0


yuck!!!!!!  Now I'm gonna go cry - then I'll make some comments . . .

like - Great Defense - horrible offense (7 turnovers)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 03:30:36 PM
Any second half predictions for the Ferrum/ Maryville game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 07, 2006, 03:44:10 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:52:25 AM


2. Llama - great guy...a little slow

I resemble that comment! :o

Finally - my prediction for today's game...if it's still on... I hear thunder.....this will be a low scoring game due to the weather. It's not currently raniing but the entire area is soaked........GC will be shutout! CNU wins 26-0....a dry sunny day and it would be 49-0.


Lets call him CNU85 "The Greek". Great call on your Captains today. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 03:47:49 PM
2nd half has started, and Maryville is moving at will. The no huddle offense is keeping FC off balance
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 03:50:16 PM
Maryville scores and goes for 2.

Scots are penalized for delay of game, and decide to go for 1. Kick is good

Maryville 20
Ferrum 14
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 03:54:40 PM
Ferrum gets good field position at their own 40.

Pitts keeps and takes to the Maryville 42.

Pitch to HB get it to the Scots 31

Ferrum fumbles but gets it back

2nd &11
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 07, 2006, 03:57:27 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 03:54:40 PM
Ferrum gets good field position at their own 40.

Pitts keeps and takes to the Maryville 42.

Pitch to HB get it to the Scots 31

Ferrum fumbles but gets it back

2nd &11

Allen, thank you for the updates, and please keep them coming!! This game should not even be this close. Growl....

Get it together, Ferrum, and win this one!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 03:59:05 PM
Ferrum 3rd and 10 they run a screen pass.

Ferrum goes for it on 4th down and turns it over on downs.

Maryville first and ten
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:01:51 PM
I cannot believe the Panthers cannot stop this team.  3rd and 8 at the Maryville 45
Ferrum finally stops them and forces the punt
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:02:46 PM
Ferrum muffs the return, and fumbles, but it goes out of bounds
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:03:38 PM
Mville 20
FC 14

4:57 left in the 3rd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:05:18 PM
Pitts runs for the first down. He should be running more, and handing off less.

2nd and 5, Pitts slips and makes it 3rd and long
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:06:42 PM
Ferrum punts on 4th and 6

Ferrum downs the punt at the Mville 27
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:08:26 PM
3rd and 3 for Mville Pass incomplete, they have to punt.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:09:04 PM
Punt downed at the FC 27
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BillyRayJimBob on October 07, 2006, 04:11:32 PM
Anyone have anything on Averett-Methodist?

Background:  I am a MUC Purple Raider, but took interest in your conference when assigned to Langley AFB.  At that time, CNU started football, and a York H.S. Falcon (my kids' high school) went to play fullback at Ferrum.  With Averett being brave/forward-looking enough to Schedule Mount Union this season, I have been following their season.  They are my sentimental pick to win the USASAC!

By the way...  Does the York H.S. football coach (if he is still there) still wear the Mount Union National Championship T-shirts that my son gave him?  XXL/XXXL shirts were always on the 50% off rack!!!

Cheers!  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:13:34 PM
Pitts passes on 1st down incomplete. Pitts keeps on the option and get 7, then gets a delay penalty, 3rd and 8

End of the 3rd  
M'ville 20
FC 14
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:15:16 PM
Ferrum cannot get 1st down, and has to punt
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:19:56 PM
Maryville 2nd and 6 for their own 48

Facemasking on FC (5yd.) 2nd and 1

First down for Maryville and they are rolling.  1st and ten at the 20

3rd and 5 at the 15
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 07, 2006, 04:20:22 PM
For God sakes Allen, we dont need a play by play on every single thing that is going on with the Ferrum game. just give the up to date score when things change.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 07, 2006, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: BillyRayJimBob on October 07, 2006, 04:11:32 PM
Anyone have anything on Averett-Methodist?

Background:  I am a MUC Purple Raider, but took interest in your conference when assigned to Langley AFB.  At that time, CNU started football, and a York H.S. Falcon (my kids' high school) went to play fullback at Ferrum.  With Averett being brave/forward-looking enough to Schedule Mount Union this season, I have been following their season.  They are my sentimental pick to win the USASAC!

Nice to have you around Billy. Good to see another Midwesterner on the hunt for the Averett-Methodist score. I'm checking both of the school's sites, as well as the d3football big board, but nothing yet.

Quote from: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:15:16 PM
Ferrum cannot get 1st down, and has to punt

Come on Ferrum!! Get some legs in the 4th!! And Allen, I'm a fan of your play-by-play, but if you want to cut down on the number of posts, just keep modifying your most recent post. Cuts down on the clutter.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 04:23:48 PM
whew...I missed the final score by 2....I figured with the weather that CNU would miss a PAT and then try for 2 and get stopped.

I'm dry now....hot shower and starbucks helps!!!

about the game:

The weather won the first half.....neither team could do squat....53 total offensive yards for both teams in the first half.

Second half was a little better and CNU took advantage.

I mentioned this 2 years ago and completely forgot about it until the middle of the game. GC lacks discipline and it's all on the coach! I'm not talking about the 3-4-5 personal fouls or the game ejection on #51 (he can play!!). I'm talking about 75% of the team having their shirt tails out.......as a former youth coach in various sports I would not tolerate it. CNU doesn't either (ahem....#48 your jeresy was out in the 4th qt), I know it may sound trivial....but if you look sloppy, you're gonna play sloppy. And THAT is the COACHES issue. GC will NEVER be at the top of the conference with that coach. It's just my opinion.

GC also gave up mid way through the 3rd.....lack of discipline. Lowe watched a punt land 1 yard away from him with the closet CNU defender 1o yards away and the team down 14......you need your play maker to make plays, not wacth the ball drop. Sure it was wet, and he could have fumbled....are you playing to win or playing to not fumble?...you're down 14.....make a play or go sit down. I was just as effective on that play and I was 25 rows up!!

I was seriously wondering if the Hampton High Crabbers could beat GC  -  and I HATE the Crabbers......I think they would win!


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:30:05 PM
Maryville threatening 6:55 left and Pitts is injured
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:39:47 PM
Final Score

Maryville 20

FC  14 

Maryville misses  2 FG's it should have been worse.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 07, 2006, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 07, 2006, 04:39:47 PM
Final Score

Maryville 20

FC  14 

Maryville misses  2 FG's it should have been worse.

Ouch. I wonder if anyone saw this coming....   :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 04:52:27 PM
dang...CNU better be ready to play once they get off the bus next week!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 07, 2006, 05:05:44 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 07, 2006, 03:44:10 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:52:25 AM


2. Llama - great guy...a little slow

I resemble that comment! :o

Finally - my prediction for today's game...if it's still on... I hear thunder.....this will be a low scoring game due to the weather. It's not currently raniing but the entire area is soaked........GC will be shutout! CNU wins 26-0....a dry sunny day and it would be 49-0.


Lets call him CNU85 "The Greek". Great call on your Captains today. ;)

Yeah, Thank Goodness it wasn't 'A Dry and Sunny Day' = = = 49-0 would have really been sad!

Good call CNU85!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 07, 2006, 05:23:00 PM
cougars win 28-25...monarchs had their chances but didn't capitalize - au could not run AT ALL on the monarchs - honestly, the better team lost today because they made too many mistakes - and the monarchs made some BAD mistakes - after going up 25-21 they get an excessive celebration call and then give up about a 25 yard return, then after stuffing au on 2 straight plays and stopping them for a short gain on 3rd and 8 a d-lineman barrels the au qb after about taking about 3 steps...15 yard penalty, drive still alive - au had 3 big plays that killed mc - a perfectly thrown pass to hughley on 3rd and long just before half that led to a prefectly thrown td pass and made it 14-10 at the half, then a trick play for a td after a nice return to make it 21-10 - parks started at qb and looked very solid - he threw an int in the endzone that went off a wide open receivers hands (taking 6 points off the board) and he threw an int on a tipped ball on the last mc drive, but the threat of the pass really seemed to open things up - hill and matthews both ran effectively, with hill scoring 2 td's - it was a very good (but frustrating) game, and one the monarchs let slip away...sometimes these things happen

any word on the severity of the pitts injury?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2006, 05:26:29 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 07, 2006, 12:57:34 AM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 07, 2006, 12:44:45 AM
Dude, just trying to figure out who he is.

By crying about someone who's number was 97 and was HELD all day by W&J in 2004?  ;D


Papi,
The National Championship comment refered to why BC or any team schedules itself the best way possible to get into the playoffs. I can guarantee that if you are not invited to the playoffs, you will never win a Nat'l Championship. Check the posts, no where was it even mentioned about BC's appearance in the 2001 Nat'l Championship game, atleast by me. I saw the clip just like the rest of you and have never once bragged about making it to the Stagg Bowl. The NCAA made the decision not to overturn the result and I don't even address anyone about it anymore. Wouldn't want to live in the past you know! ;)
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Bottom line is you can't really put our history up against the likes of any team thats been around for 10 plus years.  You should however put our playoff/regular season record up against any team that has only been around for 6 seasons or so. I am pretty confident that we would then hold our own.

Llama dude come on buddy you cant pull past playoff wins etc to make your points and then make statements like "wouldn't want to live in the past you know" mayb a little sarcasm I dunno.

Bottom line is you brought up the WHAT IF CARD just like Olinemom brought up the WE CANT FIND TEAMS TO PLAY card. She vanished after that statement but I find it very interesting how you elected to avoid replying to my last post. (Seems like you and your head coach have a few things in common) avoiding tough CNU post/ games.  ;D
And the NCAA response doesn't fly with me because they seem to not correct their mistakes even if they admite to them. If you need and example: OU/ Oregon game.

And you would be a fool to not think that a lot of the success your team has had to this day is not a direct result to your team playing in that NC game.

So I ask you and the Kid about how many great players came to Bwater solely on the fact of your boy Clark pitching them "Come to Bwater son you will have a legitimate chance of playing in the NC game on ESPN and going at least to the playoffs.


O yeah good win for the CAPS today.

Told you Pride fans about Pomoco.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 07, 2006, 05:43:54 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2006, 05:26:29 PM

Llama dude come on buddy you cant pull past playoff wins etc to make your points and then make statements like "wouldn't want to live in the past you know" mayb a little sarcasm I dunno.

Bottom line is you brought up the WHAT IF CARD just like Olinemom brought up the WE CANT FIND TEAMS TO PLAY card. She vanished after that statement but I find it very interesting how you elected to avoid replying to my last post. (Seems like you and your head coach have a few things in common) avoiding tough CNU post/ games.  ;D
And the NCAA response doesn't fly with me because they seem to not correct their mistakes even if they admite to them. If you need and example: OU/ Oregon game.


Finest,
Are you actually reading the posts or are you just skimming them?
1) The playoff records were requested by your own CNULifer so talk to him if you have issues with it being brought up. ;)
2)The What If card was brought up to answer the question, Has CNU's scheduling hurt them in the past. I'll drop the what if b'cus simply it doesn't matter as long as CNU continues to take care of their USAC business as they are now. I would like nothing more than to see CNU at Jopson field on November 18th. ;)
As for Olinemom, she is a professor at BC and gets on here like once a week so I'm sure see will see your posts in due time. I don't make, back, or analyze her posts. ;)

By the way, congrats on another win today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on October 07, 2006, 07:32:56 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2006, 10:30:10 PM
WOW even the great Pat C. is a Bwater fan. THE THING THAT STARTED ALL OF THIS WAS THE COMMENT MADE BY OLINEMOM. SHE STATED THAT BWATER HAS A HARD TIME FINDING TEAMS TO PLAY. YOU CANT CRY ABOUT FINDING TEAMS TO PLAY IF YOUR COACH IS DUCKING THE GOOD ONES END OF DISCUSSION.

Question then, Had there not been a fumble at the goalline Week 2 would you still be saying it hasn't hurt them? They would have 2 losses and no doubt that the only way into the playoffs is to win the NEW balanced USAC.


Come on Llama don't even go there with the what ifs. Last time I checked IF IT WASN'T FROM AN EXXXXXXXXTTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNDED CLOCK BWATER JUST MIGHT NOT HAVE MADE THAT LEAP INTO A NATIONAL POWERHOUSE. And then Pat wouldn't be able to come on here and say "well they have gotten a lot closer than CNU".  A lot of the success that your team has gotten now came from a game that they SHOULD HAVE NEVER PLAYED IN. And kid is real good with stats, pictures, and video clips. I think the Rowan clip was titled "when time stood still". I watched that clip and THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU GET TWO PLAYS OFf IN LESS THAN 10 SECONDS. So don't you ever talk what ifs with me.  Yeah your home clock operator probably got a NICE GIFT IN THE MAIL FROM BC ALUMNUS. 

But I will give you BC fans some credit. Your following is SO GREAT NOW THAT YOU EVEN GOT THE BC BLINDERS ON THE CREATOR OF THIS WEBSITE.

Its just real funny how you guys try to forget your dirty past. WOW!!!

So I'm going to take a guess and say CNU has made the Quarterfinals of the NCAA DIII Football playoffs 4 times because BC has been there 3 times.. how about the Semifinals? Do you want to go there? Why are you all so upset? We're currently 10-6 in the playoffs.. how many wins does CNU have?   It's not like we stood you up for the prom.. it's not like we're in the same conference.. join the freaking ODAC if you don't like Bridgewater.. hell make it past the 2nd round of the playoffs and we'll talk.  Bridgewater EARNED it's spot and we've played well EVERY year we've been in the playoffs.  To be honest with you, once you make the playoffs your previous schedule is meaningless.   This debate is truly funny as it seems like you all were stood up for the prom..we told you we found better dates and we're sorry but  we just don't see things working out right now.  Maybe we'll all kiss and make up at a certain point but we've got our own goals..and CNU just doesn't fit the bill.  Sorry.  :D 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on October 07, 2006, 07:49:40 PM
Best line I've ever read here and I've read these boards since 99..

QuoteBut I will give you BC fans some credit. Your following is SO GREAT NOW THAT YOU EVEN GOT THE BC BLINDERS ON THE CREATOR OF THIS WEBSITE.
Its just real funny how you guys try to forget your dirty past. WOW!!!


Dear Lord.. now talk about someone that has their own home made blinders on...

Since when is it BAD to have a strong fanbase?  Since when is it wrong to be PROUD of your program.. one that some of us have helped to build be it in the 80's, 90's or even 2000's.  I guess some of you have never had the chance to read DI fan sites.. talk about doing no wrong!  :o  Some of those folks are out of control!  Pat has been a big fan of DIVISION III SPORTS.. the last time I checked it wasn't BC on the main page logo it's Mount Union.. who DESERVES to be there.  Pat has a great knowledge of Division III sports and he in my opinion would NEVER make a comment here that he didn't fully believe.  Bridgewater has earned it's respect.  Which means, yes that you need to live in the past to a degree.  By the way we're not living and spouting off irrelevant facts from the 1940's (see Washington and Lee if you want those)  we're talking about numbers from 2000 through 2006.  That's it!  When people talk about Mount Union they mention the many, many titles they have because it is something to be PROUD of and has earned them respect.. is that wrong too?   

I understand that some of you guys are passionate about your mighty CNU.. there's nothing wrong with that... but at some point you can argue yourself into looking like a moron.  (we all know you're not) 


Just a little back ground on the Rowan game.. I was a member of that team.. I think we should have forfiet the game.. but the NCAA made the decision for us.  There's not much you can do but go on to the next game and play your heart out.   Also, there were many, many problems with that game.. there were several times where BC could have cried foul had the game NOT gone our way so to say that's our "dirty past" is a little absurd in itself.   Would it have been any better if we got a second 3rd down some where during the game?  That's happened before.  How about a touchdown taken away because it wasn't clearly seen by the Ref?  That happened in the BC game.  How about an onside kick that didn't quite go 10 yards.. hell that happened just a few weeks ago during a Oregon game.  So where exactly is BC at fault?  How are it's fans at fault?  How are the players at fault?  The NCAA made a ruling and we played on.  Tell me would CNU  not do the same?

(FYI.. the whole 01.. 01..01 arguement is pretty played out.. it doesn't so much bother BC or it's fans anymore.. in fact we're pretty good at talking anyone through the damn thing!  :D)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2006, 07:53:13 PM
Finest,
Are you actually reading the posts or are you just skimming them?
1) The playoff records were requested by your own CNULifer so talk to him if you have issues with it being brought up. Wink
2)The What If card was brought up to answer the question, Has CNU's scheduling hurt them in the past. I'll drop the what if b'cus simply it doesn't matter as long as CNU continues to take care of their USAC business as they are now. I would like nothing more than to see CNU at Jopson field on November 18th. Wink
As for Olinemom, she is a professor at BC and gets on here like once a week so I'm sure see will see your posts in due time. I don't make, back, or analyze her posts. Wink

By the way, congrats on another win today.


Yeah you got me. Sometimes I gota skim thru post. My girlfriend doesn't find D 3 post that exciting so sometimes I gota respond rather quick.   ;) and get back to giving her some QT.

As for the what if stuff I'll take that response, but you still haven't answered my ? yet.  So Im guessing I kinda know the answer to that one.

As far as Jopson goes I dunno 10-0 Bwater and a 9-1 Caps. By strength of SOS I think the Caps would get the home game.

Like I said earlier I never had any ill will towards the Eagles unless they play the Capts. To be honest I talked a lot of trash when I played and even though it hurt at the time (the chants of overated after the playoff loss) it made it that much more sweeter to return the favor in the Oyster Bowl.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on October 07, 2006, 07:55:58 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2006, 07:53:13 PM
Finest,
Are you actually reading the posts or are you just skimming them?
1) The playoff records were requested by your own CNULifer so talk to him if you have issues with it being brought up. Wink
2)The What If card was brought up to answer the question, Has CNU's scheduling hurt them in the past. I'll drop the what if b'cus simply it doesn't matter as long as CNU continues to take care of their USAC business as they are now. I would like nothing more than to see CNU at Jopson field on November 18th. Wink
As for Olinemom, she is a professor at BC and gets on here like once a week so I'm sure see will see your posts in due time. I don't make, back, or analyze her posts. Wink

By the way, congrats on another win today.


Yeah you got me. Sometimes I gota skim thru post. My girlfriend doesn't find D 3 post that exciting so sometimes I gota respond rather quick.   ;) and get back to giving her some QT.

As for the what if stuff I'll take that response, but you still haven't answered my ? yet.  So Im guessing I kinda know the answer to that one.

As far as Jopson goes I dunno 10-0 Bwater and a 9-1 Caps. By strength of SOS I think the Caps would get the home game.

Like I said earlier I never had any ill will towards the Eagles unless they play the Capts. To be honest I talked a lot of trash when I played and even though it hurt at the time (the chants of overated after the playoff loss) it made it that much more sweeter to return the favor in the Oyster Bowl.  ;D ;D

Eh we'll beat you all where ever you want to play..  :D ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 07, 2006, 07:58:05 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:52:25 AM

3. CNU LIfer - can't be older than 24......
4. all others - don't lump me into the same category as "CNUers" when you are responding to comments from Lifer....I like his passion, but don't necessarily agree with his comments

Hey, why can I not be say 31,  a 2000 Business Grad, a real estate broker / VP and an owner of a construction / Development company?  did you not read my ealier posts?
Is it because I have an unbridled passion for football.  Yes, crazy things come out of my head sometimes.  A lot of the internal frustration from watching so much talent coming through CNU and somehow it is not always harnessed to its full potential.  Like today.  Again we won.  But I am still not completely sold on CNU's abilities.  D is very good, but O still has not figured what they are doing.  There have been steps in the right direction each and every week this year.  I just don't know how good we are.  


and one for the road on LLamas last comments.

Quote from: Llamaguy on October 07, 2006, 05:43:54 PM
2)The What If card was brought up to answer the question, Has CNU's scheduling hurt them in the past. I'll drop the what if b'cus simply it doesn't matter as long as CNU continues to take care of their USAC business as they are now. I would like nothing more than to see CNU at Jopson field on November 18th. ;)

some of those web guru's need to clarify some stuff for me on this but if CNU, UMHB, and BC win out.  Wont CNU have a better quality of wins average or something.  I could be wrong but BC may just have to come through POMOCO on there way to the stagg bowl this year.  Again because of soft scheduling.  I will not bring up BC again.  did make for a live board though.

LLama, thanks again for time on those stats, I thought it was pretty cool from either view point.

wrighthall220,

I would rather be the child with its hand raised against the big bad guys instead of running under the porch like a whooped dog.  Yeah BC is good and have been good for while.  We are the new kid and we want what you have got.  Is that why you guys focus on coming down on CNU supporters so hard.  Are we taking the attention from you guys just a little.  2-2 heads up is not too shabby from my side of the field.  Again many thanks to LLama for the add space.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 07, 2006, 08:01:21 PM
Did anyone see the NBC news tonight? It showed the segment about D3 football and Shenandoah football. It was suposed to be shown on tomorrow nights news at 6:30. Im not sure if it still will or not. But it was a nice news clip. Had some great clips of the Hornets in action at Shentel and also some interviews of some of the players and others on campus. It might be shown tomorrow night so take a chance on watching NBC news 6:30. Great to see the Hornets and more important D3 football get national attention.

GO HORNETS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 08:03:00 PM
Y'all can email me and I'll predict all the scores for ya!!

CNU85..."The Greek"


hey - one last thing about today's game...then I'll drop it and think about a tough game coming up......

The daunted GC Pride secondary.....the weather prevented a passing game so I couldn't see them in pass protection......BUT.....when CNU had the ball on it's own (around) 38 yd line and it was 4th down....and they passed DEEP into GC territory...why did the GC player intercept it and get tackled on the 32? Ummm.....if you're smart and aware of what's going on....as Tom Jackosn would say...KNOCK THE BALL DOWN!!!! That was dumb......my immediate reaction was, "whatta  moron....better than a punt". Mental mistake......There was a timeout before the play......the coaches should have been saying....knock it down.....discipline!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 08:08:48 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 07, 2006, 07:58:05 PM

Hey, why can I not be say 31,  a 2000 Business Grad, a real estate broker / VP and an owner of a construction / Development company?  did you not read my ealier posts?



dang......way too much info.....I just said don't lump me in with your comments when other fans were saying"you CNUers"....didn't really care about what you did for a living or how many companies you were a VP for.......next you'll be telling us if you hang your toilet paper from the top or bottom!!!  ;D It's a joke!!! Chill!!! I'm giddy when we win and I almost get the score right!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on October 07, 2006, 08:14:32 PM
Quotewrighthall220,

I would rather be the child with its hand raised against the big bad guys instead of running under the porch like a whooped dog.  Yeah BC is good and have been good for while.  We are the new kid and we want what you have got.  Is that why you guys focus on coming down on CNU supporters so hard.  Are we taking the attention from you guys just a little.  2-2 heads up is not too shabby from my side of the field.  Again many thanks to LLama for the add space.

That's not the case at all.   A few CNU fans made some remarks that were base less and we defended our school/team.   If you look at the comments made I think it's safe to say that the BC fans have provided FACTS to back up their statements and CNU fans have provided TALK.  There's a big difference there.   By the way attention is nice.. but what are you talking about?  Are you still "living in the past" with the UMHB game?  That was a great mark for CNU.. but you all need to continue that type of play into the playoffs before you can claim that it "helped you".. playing with the big boys is great.. BC does it every year when it's a bigger deal in the playoffs.  The schedule is what it is.. from my experience with D3 football ANY team can win on ANY give weekend.. you all proved that earlier this year.  But you have to ask yourself.. would you rather have the BIG win early in the season or in the playoffs?  BC has had their "BIG" wins in the playoffs which is where the respect comes from.    By the way pick up the recent VSR if you want an article/blurb on the CNU BIG win.. you know the one with Coach Clark on the cover!  ;)   I'm sure BC will play CNU again.. but right now we have our OWN goals and it doesn't involve you all.. maybe some of your fans can focus on the goals of CNU and quit looking at our schedule.. because it doesn't mean much to complain about a teams schedule that's not even in your conference!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2006, 08:20:09 PM


So I'm going to take a guess and say CNU has made the Quarterfinals of the NCAA DIII Football playoffs 4 times because BC has been there 3 times.. how about the Semifinals? Do you want to go there? Why are you all so upset? We're currently 10-6 in the playoffs.. how many wins does CNU have?   It's not like we stood you up for the prom.. it's not like we're in the same conference.. join the freaking ODAC if you don't like Bridgewater.. hell make it past the 2nd round of the playoffs and we'll talk.  Bridgewater EARNED it's spot and we've played well EVERY year we've been in the playoffs.  To be honest with you, once you make the playoffs your previous schedule is meaningless.   This debate is truly funny as it seems like you all were stood up for the prom..we told you we found better dates and we're sorry but  we just don't see things working out right now.  Maybe we'll all kiss and make up at a certain point but we've got our own goals..and CNU just doesn't fit the bill.  Sorry.  :D 
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Your a funny guy to say the least. I got this one from your friend llama.

Wronghall2dummy,
Are you actually reading the post or are you just skimming them?

Read what provoked the reponses and you'll find your answer. 

No one has denied the recent success of your program for starters.  Your just mad because your 01 title game appearance should have an * beside it like Sammy Sosa and Big Mac home run record.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Talking about being stood up for a prom and better dates. We picked up Super Models and your coach decided to play the sisters of the poor. (if you catch my drift)  ;)

And as far as fitting the bill. Sorry dear but your own COACH said that we were to tough to play in the regular season.  So basically the coach of the team that has 3 quarter final, couple semi finals, and 1**** lol National title appearances is scared of an upstart program.

So Ima spit some of your verbage back at you and say. " This debate is truly funny as it seems like you all were stood up for the prom"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 07, 2006, 08:20:20 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 08:08:48 PMnext you'll be telling us if you hang your toilet paper from the top or bottom!!! 
i know you didn't ask, '85, but i thought you might like to know that i hang mine from the top...it's really the only way to go

here is the mc/au box score (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2006%20Stats/mc1007.htm#GAME.TEM), for those that care - au plays turnover free and gets some big plays to win...i forgot about the snap over parks head taking the monarchs out of fg position in the first half until i read the play-by-play - pretty nice day for hill and matthews running the ball - hill with 133 yards and 3 td's...gives him 9 on the season, if i'm not mistaken
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2006, 08:29:29 PM
The daunted GC Pride secondary.....the weather prevented a passing game so I couldn't see them in pass protection......BUT.....when CNU had the ball on it's own (around) 38 yd line and it was 4th down....and they passed DEEP into GC territory...why did the GC player intercept it and get tackled on the 32

85 I said the same thing when the Gboro player caught the ball. Selfish!!!!

Thats called a PLAYER PUTTING HIMSELF AND HIS INDIVIDUAL GOALS AHEAD OF THE TEAM.  Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnn the words of Coach K.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 07, 2006, 08:45:01 PM
Let me get caught up.  Lack of discipline on the players part.  I don't know if you can put all the blame on the coaches, because it is not them.  Although I do think the calls were the right calls, but I can't believe that CNU had only one penalty.  Like I said rain is a great neutralizer.  It pour the whole first half.  The only problem though, pride is built around the pass, rain was a factor in the first half on offense.  I said field position was key and it was. CNU scored 14 of the 28 points within 2 yards of the endzone. I learned some things today.

FC won't win the conference.  I still think it is up in the air for everyone else.

Blame it on the rain or not CNU is not a #21 ranked team.

This conference is balanced top to bottom.

GC win over Maryville was a big win (They beat NCWC and FC)

My next post will be the keys of the game recap.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 07, 2006, 08:50:53 PM
I couldn't keep this back any longer.  Here are the Keys to the Game GC vs. CNU

Greensboro

Score First- They didn't score at all. Which is a good reason why thy lost.

Control the Clock-Lost the time of pos battle

Avoid costly penalties-3 first downs for CNU of penalties.  Ejection lost our starting MLB.  Again reason we lost

CNU

Run the Football- 93 rushing yards in a sloppy game. Solid

Score Often-2nd half poured it on when it counted

Don't Turn the Ball Over-only 3 TO's to GC's 7. They did a solid job.  The reason they won.

Damn I am good :D ;D
Title: Here we go w/ the Bball guy....
Post by: Eh-You on October 07, 2006, 09:03:33 PM
Dude - SHUT UP - Gboro got DRUG 28 -0 and you're dogging CNU. I've never pulled for CNU harder in my life. Greensboro is a bunch of athletic thugs with no discipline who will be happy with one win (hope it isn't against AU).
Methodist folks - nice effort today. Your guys are coming along well. Averett was lucky to get out with a win. Two things:
The kicker (#18) has a bazooka for a right foot!
Why didn't the other QB play?
Title: Re: Here we go w/ the Bball guy....
Post by: narch on October 07, 2006, 09:18:44 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 07, 2006, 09:03:33 PMWhy didn't the other QB play?

i'm not sure if bartee is hurt, or if parks has won the job, but i'd like to see bartee used creatively if parks is going to get the majority of the snaps...that kid is a special athlete and needs to get on the field somehow, even if he's only a decoy...the defense has to account for him when he's on the field - i thought au showed a lot of poise and both teams had an answer for everything the other one did...hughley is a beast, and absolute monster - i said the same thing 2 years ago when he torched the monarch secondary, and today mc had no answer for him either...if you don't have him, you don't win, simple as that
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 07, 2006, 09:31:42 PM
what did I say that said I dogged CNU.  You all should be happy that I said CNU wasn't deserving of the #21 ranking.  Makes Greensboro look bad.  I said FC won't win.  I said it is still up in the air for everybody else.  That includes CNU and AU.  When CNU has a sustained drive where they are pinned back deep or not at the 35 yard line.  Grant it they make the best of everything they get.  I still think CNU is the team to beat in the conference. I haven't dogged anybody.  The only team I have dogged is AU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 07, 2006, 09:38:57 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 07, 2006, 09:31:42 PM
what did I say that said I dogged CNU. 

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 07, 2006, 08:45:01 PM
Blame it on the rain or not CNU is not a #21 ranked team.

umm...looks like dogging to me, but i could be wrong
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 07, 2006, 09:42:29 PM
Quote from: narch on October 07, 2006, 09:38:57 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 07, 2006, 09:31:42 PM
what did I say that said I dogged CNU. 

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 07, 2006, 08:45:01 PM
Blame it on the rain or not CNU is not a #21 ranked team.

umm...looks like dogging to me, but i could be wrong


I agree CNU is not the #21 team. I would have to say if it was a Prefect day that more than likely the Pride would of gave them a run for thier money in that game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 10:20:28 PM
Perfect Day would equal 49-0 CNU. I'm The Greek that predicted a 26-0 score today!!!

Bballguy -  If a team lacks discipline it's the COACHES fault. No other way to look at it. If there was a lapse in discipline by 1 player, you could say it's the player - but usually if it is limited to one player, he doesn't stay on the field very long - the coach will sit him down. Take a look at CNU's leading rusher, scorer in the first year, Kaveh Conaway - didn't play another year - thought he was a star, didn't need discipline - Coach sat him down in the game of life.

Too many personal fouls, late hits, throwing of helmets, player ejected, shirt tails hanging out, some wearing knee socks, some not, the team playmaker letting a punt drop at his feet instead of making something happen, intercepting a ball on 4th down and not realizing the game situation.....all a lack of discipline.......GC did not look like a football TEAM! They looked like a bunch of athletes who happened to put together a pick up game. It is the COACHES FAULT. I feel bad for some of the players...they played their hearts out, but the team will not get there. The players are being cheated of the last few years of their football careers by these ocaches. I said all of this 2 years ago on this board.......it's sad.

and please....when the game is sloppy and you get schooled 28-0...CNU scored on special teams, with defensive turnovers setting up the offense, and by the second string mounting a 59 yard drive.....don't start with the "if only...we would of" Again if the weather was perfect GC still would have been shut out! You say CNU isn't the 21st ranked team.......maybe so...but you just got it handed to you by a top 15 defense. GC has yet to give CNU a good game...closest was last year at GC and  still lost by 13.


@ GC  2001 35-10;   2003 42-10  2005 28-15
@CNU 2002 27-13, 2004 31-7, today 28-0

That's 0-6 and 191-55 in scoring, CNU has never scored less than 27 and GC has never scored more than 15.

conference comments next......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2006, 10:29:10 PM
Pridesportbball

Not trying to be smart just asking a ? A rain storm normally keeps lesser talented teams in a game. CNU's defense and Offense are built off of speed. Not to mention our starting tail back is 185 (that's with rain soaked cleats)  ;D. He's not exactly built for wet conditions when it takes away the majority of his speed and open field moves. With all of that being said, what makes you think CNU would not have played better if the weather conditions were better.

Sorry to burst you bubble but historically GC has never played well against CNU.
Good luck the rest of the way and if you really want to SHOW HOW GOOD OF A TEAM YOU GUYS HAVE, THEN BEAT AU.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on October 07, 2006, 10:30:17 PM
What are you pride guys talking about? You must have been watching a different game then me at POMOCO today.  You are trying to say that you would have made it a game if it didn't rain?  Both quarterbacks who played are under 50% on completions for the season.  You keep talking about how poor CNU's offense is but they did what was needed to win.  Greensboro's offense was non-existent.  All week prior to the game you mentioned how CNU was only winning with there defense...if that's the case then why are you bringing up there offense?  If the Pride secondary was as good as it was built up to be then they could have forced more turnovers to help them win.  On a dry field the score would have been even worse.  It just goes to show you guys may be as classless as the Greensboro team as one player got ejected for kicking a CNU player and other personal fouls for cheap shots.

I've been reading posts all year and wasn't planning on saying anything until you two came chanting about how "different" this Greensboro team was and saying you hoped CNU wouldn't blame the lose on rain and then turned around and blamed Greensboro's loss on the rain.  Also it was mentioned that the field was in terrible condition but I had the chance to stand on it after the game and it was in excellent condition and well kept considering the amount of rain in this region in the past 3 days.

As for the Bridgewater fans...CNU is in their 6th year of existence in football.  Was Bridgewater competing in the playoffs their first 4 years?  And one of you two 'bright' beings stated about CNU fans looking at BC's schedule but you are on our conference's message board so are you a little worried about meeting CNU at POMOCO in the playoffs?  Because it is very likely if CNU wins out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 10:30:46 PM
The conference has me baffled this year.

Ferrum to start 1-2 is a shcoker to me. They'll start pounding folks soon.

Maryville seems to be tough with the only loss to GC in overtime. CNU better have it together next week.

AU scares me...scared me the past 2 years.....they're good.

Methodist - I thought they would have a win under their belt right now.

UNCW - seems to be spotty....could beat anybody on a given day. Dangerous.

SU - about as expected.

GC - I thought was a much improved team but today reminded me otherwise...see notes above about coaching.

After a few weeks of conference play here's how I see it....

CNU a favorite to win it, but has played the 2 poorest teams in the conference. Maryville, AU, FC still to play and UNCW can be dangerous.

AU is distancing itself from rest.

Maryville, FC are right there with Methodist appearing to either be a half step behind or about to collapse......a lot fo close losses can demoralize a team. I think they'll rebound. Not real sure where to categorize UNCW.

GC and SU - bringing up the rear.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 10:35:49 PM
pssst....yo...Captain Chris......shhh...come over here a minute.....before the evil Narch gets to you........it's "their" not "there".......use the possessive form.....

Beware, Narch will set you right!

oh..and welcome to the board!!

I almost didn't go to the game....about 12:50 I decided to give it a shot....glad I did....I have my wallet drying out still......losts of paperwork in there got soaked......my cash in my front pocket is drying out too.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 07, 2006, 10:42:43 PM
Quote from: CaptainChris on October 07, 2006, 10:30:17 PM
What are you pride guys talking about? You must have been watching a different game then me at POMOCO today.  You are trying to say that you would have made it a game if it didn't rain? Both quarterbacks who played are under 50% on completions for the season.  You keep talking about how poor CNU's offense is but they did what was needed to win.  Greensboro's offense was non-existent.  All week prior to the game you mentioned how CNU was only winning with there defense...if that's the case then why are you bringing up there offense?  If the Pride secondary was as good as it was built up to be then they could have forced more turnovers to help them win.  On a dry field the score would have been even worse.  It just goes to show you guys may be as classless as the Greensboro team as one player got ejected for kicking a CNU player and other personal fouls for cheap shots.

I've been reading posts all year and wasn't planning on saying anything until you two came chanting about how "different" this Greensboro team was and saying you hoped CNU wouldn't blame the lose on rain and then turned around and blamed Greensboro's loss on the rain.  Also it was mentioned that the field was in terrible condition but I had the chance to stand on it after the game and it was in excellent condition and well kept considering the amount of rain in this region in the past 3 days.

As for the Bridgewater fans...CNU is in their 6th year of existence in football.  Was Bridgewater competing in the playoffs their first 4 years?  And one of you two 'bright' beings stated about CNU fans looking at BC's schedule but you are on our conference's message board so are you a little worried about meeting CNU at POMOCO in the playoffs?  Because it is very likely if CNU wins out.


Alright man time for the lo down. I cant say much, but I was there toady at the game and we wont even go into some things that went on:

1. The QB's are going to be under 50% with as much as we pass the ball.
2. I was on the field before the game, at half, and at the end of the game and the field was in rough shape throught the whole game when you have 2in of water standing on and around the field.

THE third thing is dont question class.....our team has a load of class and it might not of shown today but there was some other things that we could talk about.

And also when you were talking about the secondary of the Pride you need to do some reserch and see that we have 4 people ranked in the nation in interceptions and that is suposed to be a BAD secondary come on now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 10:46:17 PM
Narch,

I'm just happy if there's toilet paper within reach...hanging or not!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on October 07, 2006, 10:48:50 PM
Ponchos prevailed for me.  Stayed dry except for when I stepped onto the 'horrible' playing condition that had 2 feet of water covering.

Narch can correct my grammar at any time b/c at least he has an understanding of football unlike the pride fans...must be why there team is so undisciplined, they know that kicking is for soccer, not football.  #51 must have been a Titans fan.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 07, 2006, 10:49:29 PM
Hey 85,


What are you thinking that GC is one of the worest teams in the conference. Where do you get that from? I mean we are alot better then we looked today I mean come on now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 07, 2006, 10:52:48 PM
Here is what I am going to say about the conference, the capitins will NOT go unbeaten they in my perdiction will losse to Maryville next week the Pride will finsh 3rd in the conference this season and here is my poll that I am giving now:


Averett
CNU
Greensboro
Maryville
Ferrum
NCW
Shenadoah
Methodist


This is how i can see this shapeing out. I think the game 2wks from today my change the top of the conf. when we go to AU in a conference RIVAL game for us.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 07, 2006, 10:56:00 PM
Quote from: CaptainChris on October 07, 2006, 10:48:50 PM
Ponchos prevailed for me.  Stayed dry except for when I stepped onto the 'horrible' playing condition that had 2 feet of water covering.

Narch can correct my grammar at any time b/c at least he has an understanding of football unlike the pride fans...must be why there team is so undisciplined, they know that kicking is for soccer, not football.  #51 must have been a Titans fan.


Alright man it is like this. I will tell you this I know football like the back of my hand I played for a long time. The second thing on this is you dont know our team you look at the rest of our games and then say something.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 07, 2006, 10:59:16 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2006, 08:29:29 PM
The daunted GC Pride secondary.....the weather prevented a passing game so I couldn't see them in pass protection......BUT.....when CNU had the ball on it's own (around) 38 yd line and it was 4th down....and they passed DEEP into GC territory...why did the GC player intercept it and get tackled on the 32

85 I said the same thing when the Gboro player caught the ball. Selfish!!!!

Thats called a PLAYER PUTTING HIMSELF AND HIS INDIVIDUAL GOALS AHEAD OF THE TEAM.  Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh mmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnn the words of Coach K.


Which pass are you talkin about the one that was fumbled out that they said was still in? That one happened right infront of me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 10:59:55 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 07, 2006, 10:42:43 PM
Alright man time for the lo down. I cant say much, but I was there toady at the game and we wont even go into some things that went on:

1. The QB's are going to be under 50% with as much as we pass the ball.
2. I was on the field before the game, at half, and at the end of the game and the field was in rough shape throught the whole game when you have 2in of water standing on and around the field.

THE third thing is dont question class.....our team has a load of class and it might not of shown today but there was some other things that we could talk about.

And also when you were talking about the secondary of the Pride you need to do some reserch and see that we have 4 people ranked in the nation in interceptions and that is suposed to be a BAD secondary come on now.


1. I agree with you on the 50% and # of passes
2. the comment I made was that CONSIDERING we had at least 4 inches of rain, some local spots were more than 8 inches......the field was in decent shape. Nobody said it was perfect.....besides, GC and CNU played on the same field. And it was a GC fan who posted that CNU shouldn't whine about the rain when they lost and yet that was one of the first excuses a GC fan mentioned when they lost.
3. your comment about not mentioning class contradicted itself......"our team had a load of class but it didn't show today"....if  "class" didn't show , then you didn't have it.....and I agree there were lots of things going on during the game that I even noticed from the stands. That stuff goes on in every game...it's a physical smash mouth game. The difference is how you keep your cool. 3 personal fouls and an ejection is not keeping your cool. The CNU players got into GC players heads...they won the mental game and GC didn't show "class".
4. Nobody said the secondary was bad.....in fact I mentioned they couldn't be judged today because the weather prevented a passing game to test them....I just said the one guy who intercepted a 4th down pass wasn't thinking! Good secondary players do not make that mistake...especially right after a timeout when it was clear CNU was going for it......again, the coaches should have been reminding the players during the timeout. Also, GC has played 3 D3 teams this year and have given up 36, 36 and 28 points.......I don't care how many interceptions the individuals have, that is not good team defense. The 4th down interception today is prime example....great play, get s the stat, but it was a stupid interception.
Title: Glad you Gboro guys don't have a vote
Post by: Eh-You on October 07, 2006, 11:00:53 PM
How would anyone from gboro football have a clue what any ranked team would look like? What are you using for your measuring stick - Guilford? News flash: Today was the first good team you've seen all year and they blew you out. And Bball Guy, you better do all the Averett dogging now b/c our "wager" is going to keep you from doing it after AU squeaks by Gboro the way CNU did.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:02:09 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 07, 2006, 10:59:16 PM

Which pass are you talkin about the one that was fumbled out that they said was still in? That one happened right infront of me.

nope ...not that one....this was a great catch by the GC player.......GC took control of the ball......about 30 yards further downfield than they had to.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 07, 2006, 11:02:36 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 10:30:46 PM
The conference has me baffled this year.
Ferrum to start 1-2 is a shcoker to me. They'll start pounding folks soon.
Maryville seems to be tough with the only loss to GC in overtime. CNU better have it together next week.
AU scares me...scared me the past 2 years.....they're good.
Methodist - I thought they would have a win under their belt right now.
UNCW - seems to be spotty....could beat anybody on a given day. Dangerous.
SU - about as expected.
GC - I thought was a much improved team but today reminded me otherwise...see notes above about coaching.
After a few weeks of conference play here's how I see it....
CNU a favorite to win it, but has played the 2 poorest teams in the conference. Maryville, AU, FC still to play and UNCW can be dangerous.
AU is distancing itself from rest.
Maryville, FC are right there with Methodist appearing to either be a half step behind or about to collapse......a lot fo close losses can demoralize a team. I think they'll rebound. Not real sure where to categorize UNCW.
GC and SU - bringing up the rear.


I think this is a pretty solid analysis. The conference can swing a lot of ways right now, but it does seem pretty clear that CNU and AU are the two standouts.

While Maryville has been showing signs of life, Greensboro, Ferrum and Methodist are looking like middle-of-the-pack teams. Maryville is really making a run of things, though. They could creep up into third this year. And with Wesleyan, who knows that Coach Ginn has going on over there. Some days they're on, others, they're way off.

Because of the many stumbles during the off-season, it's been pretty tough to gauge how these teams were to stack up against one another.

CNU is still the favorite, I think, though I'm still expecting a very good came to emerge on Nov. 4 when Averett comes to Newport News. That's the conference title game, no doubt.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 07, 2006, 11:06:27 PM
Everyone made good points.  FC and MC both lost to Guilford in regulation.  It took two OTs to beat Greensboro.  I think GC had an off day offensively.  Just not able to pass the ball. Its not easy to chuck a ball down the field when it is pouring like it did today.  Grant it when the rain let up GC showed flashes of what they could do.  CNU also played better. (Putting up 21 pts)  That why I have said rain is a great neutralizer  CNU's offense got it done when it needed.  GC played Maryville had a 16-0 lead at halftime.  Blew the lead and had the poise to come back and win it in OT.  Disciplined enough.  I am not convinced CNU is top 25 team, because the lack of a productive drive when they have poor field position.  Look at the games.  Yet they are still the best team in the conference. I know what what a top 25 team doesn't look like.  AU.  Defense needs to step it up.

Legacy-I thought AU was the favorite ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 07, 2006, 11:06:50 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on October 07, 2006, 11:02:36 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 10:30:46 PM
The conference has me baffled this year.
Ferrum to start 1-2 is a shcoker to me. They'll start pounding folks soon.
Maryville seems to be tough with the only loss to GC in overtime. CNU better have it together next week.
AU scares me...scared me the past 2 years.....they're good.
Methodist - I thought they would have a win under their belt right now.
UNCW - seems to be spotty....could beat anybody on a given day. Dangerous.
SU - about as expected.
GC - I thought was a much improved team but today reminded me otherwise...see notes above about coaching.
After a few weeks of conference play here's how I see it....
CNU a favorite to win it, but has played the 2 poorest teams in the conference. Maryville, AU, FC still to play and UNCW can be dangerous.
AU is distancing itself from rest.
Maryville, FC are right there with Methodist appearing to either be a half step behind or about to collapse......a lot fo close losses can demoralize a team. I think they'll rebound. Not real sure where to categorize UNCW.
GC and SU - bringing up the rear.


I think this is a pretty solid analysis. The conference can swing a lot of ways right now, but it does seem pretty clear that CNU and AU are the two standouts.

While Maryville has been showing signs of life, Greensboro, Ferrum and Methodist are looking like middle-of-the-pack teams. Maryville is really making a run of things, though. They could creep up into third this year. And with Wesleyan, who knows that Coach Ginn has going on over there. Some days they're on, others, they're way off.

Because of the many stumbles during the off-season, it's been pretty tough to gauge how these teams were to stack up against one another.

CNU is still the favorite, I think, though I'm still expecting a very good came to emerge on Nov. 4 when Averett comes to Newport News. That's the conference title game, no doubt.


I agree with you that will be the title game but the Cougars will come away with the victory in that game. And it is like you said dont count out the Scotts they are going to be right there in the mix as well
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:08:43 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 07, 2006, 10:49:29 PM
Hey 85,


What are you thinking that GC is one of the worest teams in the conference. Where do you get that from? I mean we are alot better then we looked today I mean come on now.

I get it from a few things......

1. today's game
2. the previous posts from the past 2 years when I mention lack of discipline
3. GC has never had a winning season
1-9; 2-8. 3-7 the past 3 years.....last .500 team was in 2001.
4. GC looked like they had some good athletes.....now they need coaches
Title: Oh yeah - my dad can beat up your dad
Post by: Eh-You on October 07, 2006, 11:10:06 PM
And since we're on a message board: I've walked on the moon, I'm in 2 hall of fames, I've killed a lion with my bare hands, blah, blah, blah, blah. The people who we all know have actually been around football have voted CNU #21. I'll take that group over a couple of fans that are mad because the team they follow can't back up the stupid predictions they make.
Title: Re: Oh yeah - my dad can beat up your dad
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:14:32 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 07, 2006, 11:10:06 PM
And since we're on a message board: I've walked on the moon, I'm in 2 hall of fames, I've killed a lion with my bare hands, blah, blah, blah, blah. The people who we all know have actually been around football have voted CNU #21. I'll take that group over a couple of fans that are mad because the team they follow can't back up the stupid predictions they make.

yepper  - CNU is a top 25 team.....If they could put together more sustained drives like everyone says....they'd be top 10! The D is THAT good......even against 3rd ranked Rowan the D only gave up 17. If the CNU Offense was as good as the D......YIKES!!! Scary good!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 07, 2006, 11:18:12 PM
Quote from: CaptainChris on October 07, 2006, 10:30:17 PM

As for the Bridgewater fans...CNU is in their 6th year of existence in football.  Was Bridgewater competing in the playoffs their first 4 years?  And one of you two 'bright' beings stated about CNU fans looking at BC's schedule but you are on our conference's message board so are you a little worried about meeting CNU at POMOCO in the playoffs?  Because it is very likely if CNU wins out.

Actually Chris I don't think BC averaged more than 2 wins a year the first 90 years of its existance. :o
You are right about BC folks over here on the USAC board. BC was off this week and quite frankly talk on the ODAC board has been quite minimal. I'm sure by Monday all will be back on the ODAC board talking with the Guilford faithful, Hasanova, Trenches, etc. ;)
You may actually be correct with the visiting POMOCO thing but after today's results I doubt it would be in the first round. Very early speculation if the playoff front runners win out would have BC (10-0) Wesley (something-0) not sure how many games are in-region, CNU(9-0), all the TX teams with 1 loss, PAC rep with 1 loss and the Centineal rep.  Top 3 seeds would be Wesley if they stay in the South then CNU/BC. I like CNU's 9-0 with a win against a playoff UMHB. Sooooooo... If BC comes to POMOCO, or vise-versa I would say they would both have to win a game first. Fact is though there is alot of football to be played and I'm not sold  that CNU or BC will definitely go undefeated the rest of the way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2006, 11:19:47 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D A week ago all the Gboro poster were given the nod to CNU as the favorite to win the conf. Im still scratching my head ( not sure how a 28-zzzaaaaaaaaaaaapppppp zero nada game would make the same team and fans change their mind. But oh well life goes on and the games are won on the field.

There is still a lot of games to be played but I can assure you that AU is not excited about coming to Pomoco in a few weeks.

CNU schedule sets up pretty well for them as a lot of the tough games will be in our backyard.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 07, 2006, 11:21:04 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 07, 2006, 11:06:27 PM
Legacy-I thought AU was the favorite ;)

Yeah, yeah.....details.  :)

Let me put it this way, Averett is the team I've though all along would be the conference champ this year. But I'm being realistic when I say that they're not the general "favorite." Had they beaten Ferrum and/or Methodist by more, AU would be looking a little sweeter. As it stands, I don't see them as the favorite.

And I guarantee AU won't be the favorite when I make the spreads for the CNU-AU game! Playing at Pomoco against CNU.....scary proposition. But one that I'm still counting on an Averett victory.

PS: When was the last time this board has been so alive. I love it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:21:56 PM
Llama - I love your signature...you crack me up!!!!

Gullett......In the nasty rain, wind and on "terrible" field conditions...CNU had 13 offensive drives and 3 went for 38 yards or more (38,48, and 59). I'll take that and a W.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 07, 2006, 11:24:20 PM
I will give the pollsters one thing.  They sure know who the #1 team is Mount Union.  They demolished Ohio Northern.  I think though the hardest teams to pick are the 20 and below.  I guess when I see a team that should be in the poll.  I see what they SHOULD be able to do long term.  I think CNU could pick up two losses in conference play.  One to AU and possibly another to Ferrum or Maryville.  Did I ever think GC was going to beat CNU, of course not( blah blah blah.  Say I am covering my @$$, whatever)  A true fan roots for their team no matter who they are playing.  If GC was playing Mount Union.  I would say GC will beat them.  Anybody that knows me personally knows that is true.  Players and coaches look at these boards too.  I have heard compliments because I have backed my team up, not matter what.

Whichever CNU fan talked about speed and Hilliard.  Don't you think GC's speed was affected too.  Again Torrey Lowe's name comes to mind.


This board is only active because I love to run my mouth.  You all are welcome  ;) I have the tendency to bring out the best and the worst in people  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:24:59 PM
Legacy - I agree...I love it too!!!!!

I was missing the banter lately. Of course this has been a really good day...no work, watched a game in the rain, dinner with wife and friends.....and Llamaguy!!

What more can a guy ask for.....I'm gonna change my name to CNU85guy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:37:15 PM
I think what Lifer or Finest were trying to say is that someone mentioned that really bad weather like today is a neutralizer.......if that's the case and the final outcome was a more "neutral" 28-0, what would the score have been in perfect weather?.......logic would say a lot worse than 28-0.....but who knows...we will never know......it's one of those what if things that is fun to ponder but otherwise senseless
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2006, 11:41:28 PM
Llama fans are fans I hate you and BC ;D ;D ;D ;D.

Like me and the boys say to each other after a game of Madden.

HA HA I BEAT YOU LAST

My girl is a Cowboy fan and I am a die hard Skins fan and Im still in love with her.

So it doesn't bother me if you hawks/ I mean eagles come over here and verbally argue over the VA title.

Honestly the inconsistent play by the offense has keep the Captains back in the playoffs.  In the playoffs you need to be able to put up 30 plus on any given saturday. Because it would be a hard task to hold a team like UHMB to 10 pts again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:46:54 PM
that's because she yells yyeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaawwwwwww!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 07, 2006, 11:51:03 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:21:56 PM
Llama - I love your signature...you crack me up!!!!


WOW 85! That has been there for almost 2 seasons and you are just now noticing it? I bet if I had it in purple with a viking helmet under it you would have noticed sooner. :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 07, 2006, 11:53:00 PM
CNUfinest54-

That's what I have implied. (CNU offense)


CNU85-

One may never no under perfect conditions.  It could very well be that GC never beats CNU.  It took CNU a couple years to beat SU at Shentel.  Even though they probably were best team.  Everytime they were there.  :-\  Somebody please in the conference score before CNU does in game.  You will beat them if you do.

I will be honest I hate CNU with a passion.  I don't know why.  I know it has nothing to do with the football team. (I think the fans show alot of class too. Best fans in the conference)  I think it is because of Basketball.  (Basketball must be getting close then.  I think I am jealous of the Freeman Center.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:57:44 PM
you hate CNU because it's human nature.....CNU has success in most sports....great fan and community support and since Trible took over as President, great sourcing of funds for athletics and top notch facilities that many d1 schools wish they had.........

it's natural to hate that if they are an opponent!

I'm a Viking fan.....so I naturally hate the Packers......cuz they have won super bowls and championships.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:59:39 PM
also it's easy to spew off on this message board and "release the hate".....but if I was tailgating this morning in perfect conditions and you dropped by, you'd be welcome to my food and beer!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 08, 2006, 12:02:15 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 07, 2006, 11:59:39 PM
also it's easy to spew off on this message board and "release the hate".....but if I was tailgating this morning in perfect conditions and you dropped by, you'd be welcome to my food and beer!

You tailgate? I'm going to have to remember that for when the Averett game rolls around  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:05:26 AM
actually i haven't tailgated in years..........last time I did it, at least 8 CNU fans said they'd show...the only folks that did show up was JT and his wife from Rowan.....boy did I show them a good time.....that was embarassing...

However.......I got the stuff to tailgate......just give me a week's notice and some commitments to show, and I  will be glad to start again!! I park right outside the gate!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 08, 2006, 12:09:20 AM
Two of my buddies from work are Averett grads, so the three of us are definitely headed to the game that day. I don't think I could promise you a big enough crowd to make it worth your while, though.

Bummer about your last tailgate. People backing out of things like that are impossible to predict.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:09:47 AM
I was just doing some research...to provide some backup to my comments....

GC Coach Neal took over in 2002. The team was 5-5 the 2 years before he took over.....since then

4-6
3-7
2-8
1-9

and now 2-2 so far this year.....

looks like he's going the wrong way.....12-32.......and when you look at the website it talks about all the awards the players have won....and the fact that one of the years they had 7 starters on the all-conference team and 12 total on that team. again, to me, it looks like GC has a lot of individual talent and no team concept - which is the head coach's job.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 12:10:40 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 07, 2006, 10:52:48 PM
Here is what I am going to say about the conference, the capitins will NOT go unbeaten they in my perdiction will losse to Maryville next week the Pride will finsh 3rd in the conference this season and here is my poll that I am giving now:


Averett
CNU
Maryville
Greensboro
Ferrum
NCW
Shenadoah
Methodist


This is how i can see this shapeing out. I think the game 2wks from today my change the top of the conf. when we go to AU in a conference RIVAL game for us.

How can the Pride finish third if you and your masterful mind have them finishing in  your poll above?? Very interesting.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:11:00 AM
that wouldmake 4 for the tailgate......we'll work on more and maybe it'll happen....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:11:50 AM
Goose....that was funny!!! I missed that!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 12:12:19 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:09:47 AM
I was just doing some research...to provide some backup to my comments....

GC Coach Neal took over in 2002. The team was 5-5 the 2 years before he took over.....since then

4-6
3-7
2-8
1-9

and now 2-2 so far this year.....

looks like he's going the wrong way.....12-32.......and when you look at the website it talks about all the awards the players have won....and the fact that one of the years they had 7 starters on the all-conference team and 12 total on that team. again, to me, it looks like GC has a lot of individual talent and no team concept - which is the head coach's job.

Hey 85? They are 2-3 now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 12:12:31 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:11:50 AM
Goose....that was funny!!! I missed that!

Thanks I do my best.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 12:13:08 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:11:00 AM
that wouldmake 4 for the tailgate......we'll work on more and maybe it'll happen....

Yeah Id be up for that!! I might be able to make the trek down to the yuppy lot!! You know, where all the head honchos hang out!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 12:13:57 AM
As much as I know this will prolly burn me, but I think this is the highest my karma has ever been!! Guess I need to keep my mouth shut from now on so it wont go down!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:14:21 AM
how do I get a reserved parking spot like the one's I saw today? They had signs with their names on it...that was cool
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 08, 2006, 12:16:03 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:11:00 AM
that wouldmake 4 for the tailgate......we'll work on more and maybe it'll happen....

Right on! A couple weeks yet, but I'll keep that in mind.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on October 08, 2006, 12:23:31 AM
All I needed to hear from the Pride fans has been said.  Gullet proved he was a mastermind by saying Greensboro would finish third in the conference and then listed them fourth.  Maybe that's why their INDIVIDUAL safety caught the ball on 4th down.  He thought it was only 3rd down.  And you talk about watch our film we play with class and we are a much better team.  Well I hope that is the case b/c the one and only game I saw them play this year, they didn't have any.  Anybody who kicks another player should be suspended for the year, but at least he has discipline.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 08, 2006, 12:27:24 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:14:21 AM
how do I get a reserved parking spot like the one's I saw today? They had signs with their names on it...that was cool

Its easy 85, just change your name! :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 12:28:45 AM
Now that Ive had what, 9 hours to digest that game, I think Ill drop my two cents in.

Greensboro is definitely improved this year compared to years past. I remember CNU's first win on the road at GC was in the driving rain as well. Brought back some memories that's for sure.

I do agree with the poster who said that this game was not one to gauge GC's passing game or their pass defense, because, well, with a wet ball, you usually dont have too much success passing.

I also think this wasnt a great game for gauging how good CNU is with the run. On paper, the Pride generally doesnt do well with the run and I think on a dry surface, they may have had problems with our running game and we could have very well had problems with their passing game.

Now on field conditions. DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED. Jameson Stadium FALLS WAY SHORT IN COMPARISON to POMOCO Stadium. I hope had that game been played at your place you would have said the field conditions were WAAAAY worse than the field conditions today. You guys dont even have a tarp! So lets not go there. Can you only imagine how bad the field would have been had there not been a tarp on it? CNU pulled the tarp at 11 am and of course with all the rain it was going to get sloppy and wet. To me, you are comparing apples to oranges because CNU has the best field in the conference.

Is CNU a top 25 team?? ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY. Should they be ranked higher than 21st, maybe not. But they need to be considered. The got beat at Rowan, won at home over UMHB and defeated Salisbury, a very good program in the rain on the road.

On to next week....am I worried?? OOOOHH YEEAAAH!!! Mer'vul is coming off a huge win at Ferrum this weekend and the Captains have a 97 (exaggerating) hour bus ride ahead of them that they will be doing in two days, leaving Thursday, practicing somewhere, VMI or W&L, I cant remember, on Friday. Im afraid they will be worn out and lay an egg on this one. Im not going to think about Averett on Nov. 4 until its Oct. 29.

Do I think G'boro will finish third in the conferece, or fourth depending on which part of Gullett's post you believe, no I dont think they will finish third. They are home against Shenandoah next week, should be a W there, and then they go to Averett, there's another big L, they host Ferrum and GC doesn't do particularly well against the run, but when you are one dimensional, anything can happen, potential lose, and then finish at Methodist and at NC Wesleyan. I would be afraid of Methodist at home, especially with how well they played Averett Saturday. So I see a potential for GC to lose at least twice and maybe three more times. 4-3 or 3-4 could potentially sneak you into third, but I just dont see it happening. Ive been wrong before, so it wouldn't surprise me if Im wrong again.

That's why Im glad they decided the games on the field.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 12:29:18 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:14:21 AM
how do I get a reserved parking spot like the one's I saw today? They had signs with their names on it...that was cool

Pony up some more dough Vice Admiral!! Become an Admiral!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 12:29:57 AM
Quote from: CaptainChris on October 08, 2006, 12:23:31 AM
All I needed to hear from the Pride fans has been said.  Gullet proved he was a mastermind by saying Greensboro would finish third in the conference and then listed them fourth.  Maybe that's why their INDIVIDUAL safety caught the ball on 4th down.  He thought it was only 3rd down.  And you talk about watch our film we play with class and we are a much better team.  Well I hope that is the case b/c the one and only game I saw them play this year, they didn't have any.  Anybody who kicks another player should be suspended for the year, but at least he has discipline.

All I can say is....LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:31:31 AM
It's 12:30 and we're all yapping away....we need a life...or at least I do...

time for bed......the most beautiful lady in the world just told me so....and it's not my momma.....the wife of 21 years says bedtime.......

I gotta get up early and get my daughter from a 12 hour dance practice that ends at 8 in the morning......how dedicated is that? must be why she had her picture in the paper for finishing 2nd in the country at a recent competition (ok...so I'm bragging a little!!!)

later guys....let's work on the tailgate thing and make it happen!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 12:32:11 AM
Quote from: CaptainChris on October 08, 2006, 12:23:31 AM
All I needed to hear from the Pride fans has been said.  Gullet proved he was a mastermind by saying Greensboro would finish third in the conference and then listed them fourth.  Maybe that's why their INDIVIDUAL safety caught the ball on 4th down.  He thought it was only 3rd down.  And you talk about watch our film we play with class and we are a much better team.  Well I hope that is the case b/c the one and only game I saw them play this year, they didn't have any.  Anybody who kicks another player should be suspended for the year, but at least he has discipline.

Oh here's another good one about the ole GC clan. In Friday or Thursday's Daily Press, Kelchner commented on HOW BAD THE FILM WAS that they received from Greensboro from their last game. Kelchner said they could see the schemes they were running, but it was so fuzzy, much like snow when your cable goes out, that they couldnt even see who was on the field!! Oh man that was classic!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:33:08 AM
dang...so all i need is to donate $2500.....????? that's ok....I'll keep the extra $1500 and park 20 feet away.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 12:33:39 AM
LOL CHEAPSKATE!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:34:13 AM
Goose -- the film wasn't fuzzy.....that was team speed!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 12:35:11 AM
i better go to bed before i get put on restriction
Title: Re: Oh yeah - my dad can beat up your dad
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 08, 2006, 12:38:49 AM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 07, 2006, 11:10:06 PM
And since we're on a message board: I've walked on the moon, I'm in 2 hall of fames, I've killed a lion with my bare hands, blah, blah, blah, blah. The people who we all know have actually been around football have voted CNU #21. I'll take that group over a couple of fans that are mad because the team they follow can't back up the stupid predictions they make.


A little 411 for you. The #21 rank was only in the Coaches Poll not the national poll.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 12:39:37 AM
Last I checked, we were ranked in the D3football.com poll, the AFCA poll and Don Hansen's poll.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 08, 2006, 12:46:10 AM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 08, 2006, 12:39:37 AM
Last I checked, we were ranked in the D3football.com poll, the AFCA poll and Don Hansen's poll.

But the last time i looked at it, it was only on the coaches poll
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 12:59:29 AM
And here I thought you were in the know about D3 football. Had you read CNU's game notes a little closer (http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Football/footballgamenotes100706.pdf), you would see that we are ranked 21st in D3football's and Don Hansen's and 24th in the AFCA poll.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 08, 2006, 01:04:55 AM
I am just saying that the last time that I saw the poll it was only in the coaches poll. Well you are in there for now untill the Scotts knock you out of it one week from today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on October 08, 2006, 01:23:43 AM
Man Gullet you are as bright as I thought.  CNU is ranked in the top 25 in all the polls you can find except for the GC fanbase poll...and we have seen how bright those folks are.  At least BBall has given CNU a little credit.  Next I am going to hear how improved Maryville is from last year when CNU won in a 'close' game.  GC was supposed to be improved from last year and they got beat worst this year.  I don't think CNU will slip up.  Coach K is too good a coach that teaches discipline.  He will have the Captains ready to play and make sure they take this thing one game at a time the rest of the way out.

                                             
ROLL CAPTAINS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on October 08, 2006, 01:26:15 AM
I take back the ROLL CAPTAINS if it means they will play like GC next week.  I prefer cheering for teams that play the game the right way; with class whether they win or lose.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on October 08, 2006, 02:04:14 AM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 05, 2006, 01:01:47 AM
Quote from: Olinemom on October 05, 2006, 12:01:04 AM


You know, it's been hard for BC to find teams to play us as well.  Last year we  had to play a club team because we couldn't find a 10th team to play.  It's not just Mount Union who can't find people to play.

Uh,  is that why BC played Shenandoah instead of CNU this year.  Last I heard was that BC coach did not want to play CNU anymore.  I could be wrong and you all knowing smiters will probably bash me with the facts.

WE get to play home and away with Shenandoah who are up the road from us.    We got to play a "home" game with CNU at the Oyster Bowl about 5 miles from CNU campus so we played there like 3 times in a row.  I was accosted by a drunk student at one of those games on campus.  It was very unpleasant, I can assure you.  Scary too for someone as old and decrepit (sp) as I am.  But lots of my guys were there and caught the guy and the police carted him away.  The team I like from CNU is the baseball team.  They have a GREAT COACH!!!  Looking forward to bringing brownies to Coach John and his team come spring!   I'll be there for the CNU tournament at the begining of baseball season as I am also the Baseball Mom here at BC.  But the atmosphere is very different at the baseball field. Just my 2 brownies worth.  Oh and I don't smite people unless they are mean and vicious.  You don't seem to be either.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 08, 2006, 02:19:44 AM
GEEZ - I stay off for a couple of hours and I miss three or four pages!! Good to see all the good cheer passing back and forth . . . . :-\

First, let me reaffirm that I am still a GC fan. Being rather new to D3, and knowing some of the talent on the GC squad that they haven't had before, I thought they could beat CNU. Obviously I was wrong there.  :o

Second, CNU played on the same field, good or bad, that GC did and the first half stats show a very close game, separated in score by a blocked punt for a TD. The CNU defense is to be commended for causing 7 turnovers and the blocked punt - that is what I believe made the difference in this game. I also thought the GC defense played very well, but probably got tired bailing out the offense's mistakes that caused bad field position. (Not to mention the difference in punting yardage!) GC NEVER got into the RED ZONE and CNU only got there three times!  >:(

Third, CNU deserves the Top 25 rankings - at least until they get beat. They beat a 2-3 team by 28 points and held them scoreless - a team that is trying to learn what it is like to win. That is what was expected - so why is that an argument?  :P

Fourth, I have watched all of the GC games this year except for the CNU game and I believe GC has played with class. There does appear to be some exceptions, but those one or two players don't represent the whole team (or shouldn't). I agree with those that are going to say the coach should deal with those players, but I'm not the coach, those actions are classless, but should not label the entire team as "undisciplined thugs."   :-[

Now, GC is 2-3 and 1-1 in conference play. It appears the one conference team they beat is not a bad team. That gives me hope. I'm hoping The Pride can post a winning season this year. I believe they have the talent, but hope they can believe in themselves enough to be winners. Those classless acts probably come from the frustration of losing so much in the past.  :-\

Next, since I believe this team is more talented than in the past, I don't place much value in past records, etc. I'm hoping the coaches can help the players to a winning attitude.  ;D

BTW, GC has played at least two good teams, but got blown out by both. Also, when I mentioned not using the weather as an excuse, I think I was talking about both teams. I'm sure the weather affected both teams and it is not an excuse for one team or another-IMO. I do think that throwing the ball 20 times in that rain was asking for trouble, while CNU wisely threw it only 9 times - and you can't really tell if a secondary is good on 9 passes! And both teams averaged under two yards per rush. The biggest difference was not the offenses, but the 3-1 fumbles lost and the 4-2 interceptions and the punt block. It very easily could have been 0-0 going into half.  ???

Here are the stats:
                                                  GC     CNU
FIRST DOWNS...................            8       11
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............   34-68    50-93
PASSING YDS (NET).............        39          51
Passes Att-Comp-Int...........      19-6-4    9-5-2
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS.. 53-107   59-144
Punts (Number-Avg)............       6-21.7   6-39.2
Fumbles-Lost..................           4-3        2-1
Penalties-Yards...............            5-25      1-5
Possession Time...............          27:10    32:50
Red-Zone Scores-Chances.......     0-0      3-3
Sacks By: Number-Yards........      3-15      1-7

BTW, I was sick about that pass completion on 4th and long to the 10 yardline, but I think GC felt the game was over, especially after that play. At least that is one excuse, not that it matters. It sounded like a good read and good completion.  ::)

OK - that is all over for now - that game is now only a film and a W/L - CNU is GREAT! and GC is not  :(  Shall we move on?  :-*  :-*

NEXT WEEK: ;D
What chance does GC have against Shenandoah? Will The Pride get their starting RB back? (he missed the CNU trip) Any chance of running an option with the two mobile QBs we have? Might open up the passing more . . . .  ;)

Do you really think Maryville will beat CNU? I don't and I said Maryville was better than people thought back when GC beat them. They have a good QB and a very good receiver, but I think the CNU defense is just too strong for them.  :)

"Only three things can happen when you throw the ball and two of them are bad"
     by a Wise Coach (whose QB didn't have an arm  ;) )



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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on October 08, 2006, 02:25:43 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 06, 2006, 04:49:26 PM
Llama,

Actually CNU not making the playoffs ONCE was due to conference losses, not the tough non conference schedule. And Rugbyguy is faster than you!  :o

Kid - man, we used to get along, then you become part of the d3football.com staff and well........you can fill in the blanks!  :D

I know the GC folks have left already.....hopefully when you read this you're in a warm, dry hotel room. That trip is gonna suck. I hate driving home in it from Norfolk.

I'm sorry I have been away from my computer over in Page Co. where they haven't heard of computers yet. ( So I just have to comment when I have a chance because it'll be back to the wilds of rural life tomorrow mirning.)  But Rugybyguy is faster than you are too.  ;D  He was one of the majors in my department and (lol) he can speak Spanish too! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on October 08, 2006, 03:06:10 AM
D3newbie if I knew how to do the whole karma thing I would add to yours b/c you know what you are talking about.  I guess gullet is the only GC fan that has his mind set on one thing and one thing only and common sense can't change it.  I agreed with everything you said so I will tell you that I don't think Shenandoah has enough defensive team speed to handle GC, you should be in good shape.  The CNU game is like the super bowl for them so they always play them hard, but GC will beat them handily.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on October 08, 2006, 04:12:59 AM
It's late, but one more message since I'll be away from computers for the next couple of days. :'( :'( I don't remember who wrote about the Oyster Bowl as it was about 5-6 pages ago and it's too late to look it up, but what I remember from that game is #20, Jamie Langley lying still and the CNU team exulting (or so it seemed to me) , jumping and hitting chests together, and Jamie lying there so still, not moving and the CNU team jumping around.  It seemed to last forever.  I'm sure it didn't but it seemed forever until the team was cleared away.  I hate it when anyone gets hurt. So the 2 indelible memories I have of trips to Newport News is one of my Jamie getting injured and me getting attacked at Pomoco Stadium (which, by the way, is the nicest facility I have yet seen at any DIII game --if you don't count the visitor side bleachers.  If you have to count both sides, then Mount Union has the nicest facilities.  But I'm really impressed with the home side facilities at CNU.)  Now my brothers played when if you were a good player, you played both ways, every play.  The sick feeling always comes when a player is injured, no matter on whose team he is.
     I responded to a post about Mt Union having trouble scheduling 10 games.  I never dreamed that it would bring such heated responses and pages of jibes back and forth.  I apologize for having caused such discension.  That was not my intent.    We had trouble scheduling a tenth game last year.  Va Southern backed out.  Thomas More backed out.  It was not wonderful to have to play that George Mason club team.  My #2 team never gets to play a 10 team schedule either and to get more than the 7 in their conference they have to fly half way across the country to play 2 teams.  One worries when one only has 9 games, especially when the playoffs come and everybody else has 10 games.  Last week there was a cancellation that may mess up the conference down in Texas.  2 teams will only have 9 games.  However,  my Texas team won big today (UMHB).  In the past playoffs, BC has gone to Texas and played Trinity.  We lost down there.  They came to B'water and beat us the last time they went to the Stagg Bowl, but lost their great QB to some off-campus high-jinx and got stomped in Salem with their #2 QB.  I know the guys don't care where they play as long as they play.  But as for myself, I would have a big problem swinging a trip to Texas.  After all I teach, so I'm poor.-- although last year Roocru  had offered accomodations if we were to get there.  That didn't happen. :(
     As for being on the boards, I read every board in the South Region.  Every conference in the South is important and it is good to know who the good teams are.  In addition, I used to teach at High Point U, so I know a lot about the USAC schools to begin with and it's neat to know what is happening.  I don't usually bother with the East, but I read the North board for the OAC board.  I've met a ton of MUC people at the Stagg Bowls I have attended.  Stone Station has been known to host the fans of both teams playing in the national championship for a tailgate before the big game and it's a fabulous time.  I check the West Board--especially the Wisconsin for my Wisconsin-Whitewater team and the NWC for my Linfield team.  One of the key things I like about  the d3football.com board is getting to meet other posters and interacting with them.  It's been one of the most enjoyable pursuits that I've done in the past couple of years.  One sets up tailgates at games and meets posters from the other teams.  Last year at Thiel comes to mind as a great occasion!!   It's great.  Last year at the Stagg, we had the W-WW and MUC fans all together at the same tailgate with us Stone Station crew and it was a fine time,
everybody bantering and  saying how great their team was.  Nothing mean-spirited at all, either before or after the game, to be truthfull about it.  There was such a lot of class shown. 
     I just  don't see the point in screaming in posts and making ugly comments.  I suppose because I have watched and cheered for my players (and I always have players to cheer for--even when we were 0-10, I was there in the stands) for about 50 years and long ago came to the realization that it's the boys on the field who play.  The coaches coach.  Nothing much else matters. What is going to happen happens.  The team is going to win or it's not.   My guys are happy that I come and support them, I do know that, because they tell me so.   OF course, it's always better to be lucky than good.  Frankly we didn't deserve to beat Ferrum the other week, but I am glad we did.  And today I hear that Jermaine Pitts got injured.   That's awful!  He is an excellent player, so much better than many of those who play around him.  He gave us more than we could handle so often in that game.  They are so much better a team than their record shows.
     I've blithered on way too long, but I was away for 2 days and will be away for 3 more starting tomorrow.  It's called FALL BREAK!! Thanks God for small blessings.  Good luck to those in the USAC on their games this coming Saturday.  I will be going down to Guilford for our match with the Quakers.  I promised hasanova and trenches that I would bring brownies for a tailgate and so there will be a Stone Station fun time in Greensboro this coming Saturday.  I am looking forward to it!  To bed!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2006, 08:32:40 AM
O Line Mom - I was at that Oyster Bowl  and the CNU players were bumping chests etc.....it was a good hit.....tell the rest of the story...once CNU realized the guy was hurt, the coach made everyone go to one knee and remove their helemts on the sidelines.....out of respect....that's how CNU has handled every injured player at games that I've seen........when the kid was taken off the field, then the team stood up and put on their helmets and the crowd applauded his effort.

As far as your experience on campus...that was unfortunate, but not indicitive of the folks around here....just a bad apple in society.....it doesn't happen when you come down for baseball does it? The baseball diamond is only a few hundred yards from POMOCO.....don't let one guy out of thousands ruin it for you.....come back often...we're really decent folk!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2006, 08:51:28 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 07, 2006, 10:52:48 PM
Here is what I am going to say about the conference, the capitins will NOT go unbeaten they in my perdiction will losse to Maryville next week the Pride will finsh 3rd in the conference this season and here is my poll that I am giving now:


Averett
CNU
Maryville
Greensboro
Ferrum
NCW
Shenadoah
Methodist


This is how i can see this shapeing out. I think the game 2wks from today my change the top of the conf. when we go to AU in a conference RIVAL game for us.
just say no my friend, just say no
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2006, 09:08:15 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 08, 2006, 01:04:55 AM
I am just saying that the last time that I saw the poll it was only in the coaches poll. Well you are in there for now untill the Scotts knock you out of it one week from today.

but you didn't say "last time i checked"...you said

Quote from: GCGullett on October 08, 2006, 12:38:49 AM
A little 411 for you. The #21 rank was only in the Coaches Poll not the national poll.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 08, 2006, 09:08:49 AM
CNU85 - good points. I was a little disappointed with those comments as well. Our kids play with as much sportsmanship as any team I have seen and they were absolutely concerned when they saw the down player. I don't care what team you play for, big hits will always garner a celebration. But not a single player was celebrating the injury. I am also sure that students at Bridgewater drink as well.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2006, 09:24:46 AM
mc/au game story (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=243978) from the fayetteville observer

'85 (i think it was you) - don't worry...the monarchs will not let a couple of close losses get them down...they know they can play with anyone in this conference - they've got a tough stretch with ferrum coming to mc next weekend, but i expect this team to play hard and play with passion until the last game of the season - a win over ferrum next weekend would not surprise me (especially if pitts doesn't play) and i think the monarchs realize they can play with cnu after dominating them in the first half last year, so i wouldn't put it past the monarchs to play cnu well at pomoco (although that is a tall task) - even if they lose both the fc and cnu games, i expect the monarchs to beat gc and m'ville at home and su on the road - 4-3/3-4 in the conference is not what i expected out of this team pre-season, but at this stage it's all i can realistically expect
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AM
I hope everyone will excuse my friend Gullet.  He is a friend and an idiot.

I along with many GC fans thought that CNU wasn't a 21 ranked team.  Yeah we got smashed.  I felt a team with a 21 ranking rain or shine should be able to put up better numbers.  Yeah they put up 28 pts on 144 yards and 14 came at the 00 yard line, because of the playing surface.  The blocked FG, and the interception of a wet ball taking back to the 00 yard line.  I was offered a chance to go to color in the press box.  I thought it was a better idea to watch the game in the middle of a Noreaster.  I think I might take up that offer at the next game.  If I am offered again.  I hope Maryville beats CNU.  (I guess to despite CNU and it will help the GC faithful think they could have beaten CNU.  Plus when GC beats SU it will tie us in the conference.)

Whichever CNU fan talked about tailgating.  I would have glady showed up.  I tailgate usually at the Jamieson but I am usually the only one there.

AU has the worst fans.  I forgot to mention.  They show some of the worst class.  I work for one of the basketball teams at GC. (No I am not a coach)  They heckled me.  Of course I show some class and keep my mouth shut.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 08, 2006, 09:41:15 AM
CNU faithful,

My fellow BC fan, Olinemom, means not what she says.  Her posting at 4 in the morning should be evidence enough that she doesn't even know what she's saying.

Personally, I've never had a problem with CNU players, staff, fans or the Newport News area.  The four games we've had were fun (nerveracking, but fun), and I think your campus has gotten a lot nicer over the last 10 years.  Keep up the good work there!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2006, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AMAU has the worst fans.  I forgot to mention.  They show some of the worst class.

personally, i have to disagree - i thought the au fans at the mc/au game yesterday were very supportive of their team, and they brought a nice crowd that was pretty vocal - the mc crowd was decent, but they sat on their hands most of the game - i wish the monarchs could have a more significant home-field advantage - we're one of the largest schools in the usasac, but too few of the students go to and get loud at games...makes no sense to me

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AMOf course I show some class and keep my mouth shut.
unfortunately, you don't keep your keyboard shut :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 01:03:43 PM
Quote from: narch on October 08, 2006, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AMAU has the worst fans.  I forgot to mention.  They show some of the worst class.

personally, i have to disagree - i thought the au fans at the mc/au game yesterday were very supportive of their team, and they brought a nice crowd that was pretty vocal - the mc crowd was decent, but they sat on their hands most of the game - i wish the monarchs could have a more significant home-field advantage - we're one of the largest schools in the usasac, but too few of the students go to and get loud at games...makes no sense to me

I guess its because they consider us thier rival :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 01:48:16 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 08, 2006, 01:04:55 AM
I am just saying that the last time that I saw the poll it was only in the coaches poll. Well you are in there for now untill the Scotts knock you out of it one week from today.

Way to be up to date. You'd think you would have been prepared, might want to think before you speak next time. Just a thought.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 01:57:38 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AM
I hope everyone will excuse my friend Gullet.  He is a friend and an idiot.

I dont even know what to say to this!! Other than a lil chuckle.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 01:59:03 PM
Quote from: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 08, 2006, 09:41:15 AM
CNU faithful,

My fellow BC fan, Olinemom, means not what she says.  Her posting at 4 in the morning should be evidence enough that she doesn't even know what she's saying.

Personally, I've never had a problem with CNU players, staff, fans or the Newport News area.  The four games we've had were fun (nerveracking, but fun), and I think your campus has gotten a lot nicer over the last 10 years.  Keep up the good work there!

Oh kid, you are so sweet. We appreciate your words of wisdom. Oh and by the way, you do one helluva job on your personal bridgewaterfootball site as well contribute meaningful and insiteful comments on D3football.com. You are becoming more and more prominent in the D3 football community, I commend you for doing a great job and keep up the excellent work!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 08, 2006, 02:01:29 PM
Quote from: narch on October 08, 2006, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AMAU has the worst fans.  I forgot to mention.  They show some of the worst class.

personally, i have to disagree - i thought the au fans at the mc/au game yesterday were very supportive of their team, and they brought a nice crowd that was pretty vocal - the mc crowd was decent, but they sat on their hands most of the game - i wish the monarchs could have a more significant home-field advantage - we're one of the largest schools in the usasac, but too few of the students go to and get loud at games...makes no sense to me

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AMOf course I show some class and keep my mouth shut.
unfortunately, you don't keep your keyboard shut :)

Narch - their basketball fans used to be obnoxious and annoying. They would sit behind the visitors bench even tho that was against USA South policy and make a huge and annoying racket. I do however commend their spirit in cheering for their team. They have calmed a bit now but still make a heckuva lot of noise which is great considering how far that program has come since Jimmy Allen took over. As for their football fans, couldnt tell ya. They sit on on the other side of the field!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on October 08, 2006, 02:18:15 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 08, 2006, 01:59:03 PM
Oh kid, you are so sweet.

Wow, I've never had another dude say I was sweet.  I mean, I don't know what to say. :o

Joking aside, I appreciate the kind words.  I felt like I needed to say what I did about CNU because of some of the stuff being misconstrued by BC and CNU fans on here.  I was simply posting playoff performances by BC and CNU as being proof we don't need to play a tough non-conference schedule.

I think BC and CNU both have fine programs that have things heading in the right direction to hopefully one day compete with (and defeat) the Mount Unions of the world.  CNU beating MHB certainly is a sign that might happen sooner rather than later.

I sure hope we see eachother in the postseason!!  We have a couple tough games ahead (at Guilford, vs. W&L) and you all, as stated, still have Averett to go.  Even if we limp in with one or two losses, I'd love to tailgate with the Captain faithful!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 02:26:41 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 08, 2006, 02:01:29 PM
Quote from: narch on October 08, 2006, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AMAU has the worst fans.  I forgot to mention.  They show some of the worst class.

personally, i have to disagree - i thought the au fans at the mc/au game yesterday were very supportive of their team, and they brought a nice crowd that was pretty vocal - the mc crowd was decent, but they sat on their hands most of the game - i wish the monarchs could have a more significant home-field advantage - we're one of the largest schools in the usasac, but too few of the students go to and get loud at games...makes no sense to me

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AMOf course I show some class and keep my mouth shut.
unfortunately, you don't keep your keyboard shut :)

Narch - their basketball fans used to be obnoxious and annoying. They would sit behind the visitors bench even tho that was against USA South policy and make a huge and annoying racket. I do however commend their spirit in cheering for their team. They have calmed a bit now but still make a heckuva lot of noise which is great considering how far that program has come since Jimmy Allen took over. As for their football fans, couldnt tell ya. They sit on on the other side of the field!

They still are, and they still sit behind the bench of the visitors.  I have made that trip the past two years, and they are still there.

(GC has the calmest fans, thats because they don't have anyone show-up)

Basketball we have had better attendance.  Student Activities director at GC, told me that the Girls Basketball, out drew Men's basketball.  We all know why.
Title: Rivals???????????????????
Post by: Eh-You on October 08, 2006, 08:00:43 PM
BballGoof - Why would you say that AU considers Gboro its rivals?
Title: Re: Rivals???????????????????
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 10:05:31 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 08, 2006, 08:00:43 PM
BballGoof - Why would you say that AU considers Gboro its rivals?

Because they have said it.  They come down every year to Greensboro and trash our campus.  They come down and paint the rock in the middle of the campus.  They do it for basketball and football.  Our fans do the same back to AU.  It is the closest school to them.  I believe Fox8 has dubbed it a rival.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on October 09, 2006, 10:29:30 AM
Narch, Three things could help the MC home field advantage: 1) All the MC athletic teams have home games the same time as the home football games.  Students seperate, and the other athletes can't support each other. 2) I don't see this happening any time soon, but I think they should build huge, new home stands opposite the one we have now.  Nice press Box, and the whole nine yards. There is plenty of room.  It would help with recruits, and more fans would come. If you build it, they will come! 3) Advertise the games.  Only die hard fans even know when the Monarchs play at home.  You either have to go to school at MC, or you have to get on the website to find out when MC plays.  They need to let people in the community know that their team is playing.

I loved playing at home.  I always felt we had a great atmosphere, and we usually had a good turnout.  I just feel those are three things that could help increase the home field advantage.

P.S. I was up for most of the game as was my wife. She gets more into the game than I do.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 09, 2006, 12:25:41 PM
I've been away for the weekend (I had great seats and the Carolina Panthers won 20-12!), so I've tried to play catch-up this morning.  In graded form, here are some observations from posts over the past three days:

Sheer Volume - A+  Sorry, but I had to skim some of the Ferrum play-by-play.
Unmigitated inflammatory BS - B+  Wow! lol
Fun to read - I'm not an alumnus of a USASAC school, so I don't care who you tee off.  Nice job, posters!  :)
Football knowledge - C  Thankfully, some of you who do know your team's assets from holes in the ground game helped balance this a bit.
Grammar - D  Again, wow!  Did I say wow?  I've gotten past the homonyms.  Heck, if I said something about those every time, I'd have no time left for sleep.  Here is one tip, however, it's "two halls of fame" and not "two hall of fames."  Attorneys General.  Brothers-in-law.  You get the picture.  :)

Anyway, thanks for the entertainment.  Good luck to everyone this weekend.  The conference race should be fun the next five weeks.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on October 09, 2006, 12:27:00 PM
rocket good to hear from you brother. How is your team doing this year in high school? Mine is not doing too well. they have just given up. we are 1-6. How is kendra doing man i hope to be coming down on nov.4 to see the homecoming game, we'll have to meet up. Well anyways take care. ill holler at you later brother.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 09, 2006, 12:31:15 PM
Quote from: rocket on October 09, 2006, 10:29:30 AM
Narch, Three things could help the MC home field advantage: 1) All the MC athletic teams have home games the same time as the home football games.  Students seperate, and the other athletes can't support each other. 2) I don't see this happening any time soon, but I think they should build huge, new home stands opposite the one we have now.  Nice press Box, and the whole nine yards. There is plenty of room.  It would help with recruits, and more fans would come. If you build it, they will come! 3) Advertise the games.  Only die hard fans even know when the Monarchs play at home.  You either have to go to school at MC, or you have to get on the website to find out when MC plays.  They need to let people in the community know that their team is playing.

I loved playing at home.  I always felt we had a great atmosphere, and we usually had a good turnout.  I just feel those are three things that could help increase the home field advantage.

P.S. I was up for most of the game as was my wife. She gets more into the game than I do.
Rocket, I agree with you.  Same thing at Guilford.  There are too many competing events and the games are not highly touted, but I think that is partially the nature of DIII.  I also think MC needs a stadium upgrade.  I know the new facilities at Guilford have helped recruiting and made the game atmosphere more enjoyable.  If the Monarchs play in Greensboro next fall, I hope some of you will make the trip.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 09, 2006, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 02:26:41 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 08, 2006, 02:01:29 PM
Quote from: narch on October 08, 2006, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AMAU has the worst fans.  I forgot to mention.  They show some of the worst class.

personally, i have to disagree - i thought the au fans at the mc/au game yesterday were very supportive of their team, and they brought a nice crowd that was pretty vocal - the mc crowd was decent, but they sat on their hands most of the game - i wish the monarchs could have a more significant home-field advantage - we're one of the largest schools in the usasac, but too few of the students go to and get loud at games...makes no sense to me

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AMOf course I show some class and keep my mouth shut.
unfortunately, you don't keep your keyboard shut :)

Narch - their basketball fans used to be obnoxious and annoying. They would sit behind the visitors bench even tho that was against USA South policy and make a huge and annoying racket. I do however commend their spirit in cheering for their team. They have calmed a bit now but still make a heckuva lot of noise which is great considering how far that program has come since Jimmy Allen took over. As for their football fans, couldnt tell ya. They sit on on the other side of the field!

They still are, and they still sit behind the bench of the visitors.  I have made that trip the past two years, and they are still there.

(GC has the calmest fans, thats because they don't have anyone show-up)

Basketball we have had better attendance.  Student Activities director at GC, told me that the Girls Basketball, out drew Men's basketball.  We all know why.

Oh its got to be based on playing ability, right Prideguy!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 09, 2006, 02:08:09 PM
Damn and someone smited me too! I was at a seven and now ive been brought down a knotch! Son of a.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 09, 2006, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: rocket on October 09, 2006, 10:29:30 AM
Narch, Three things could help the MC home field advantage: 1) All the MC athletic teams have home games the same time as the home football games.  Students seperate, and the other athletes can't support each other. 2) I don't see this happening any time soon, but I think they should build huge, new home stands opposite the one we have now.  Nice press Box, and the whole nine yards. There is plenty of room.  It would help with recruits, and more fans would come. If you build it, they will come! 3) Advertise the games.  Only die hard fans even know when the Monarchs play at home.  You either have to go to school at MC, or you have to get on the website to find out when MC plays.  They need to let people in the community know that their team is playing.

I loved playing at home.  I always felt we had a great atmosphere, and we usually had a good turnout.  I just feel those are three things that could help increase the home field advantage.

P.S. I was up for most of the game as was my wife. She gets more into the game than I do.

When CNU has a football home game, there is absolutely NOTHING going on between the hours of 11 am and 5 pm. It can be done.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 09, 2006, 04:14:06 PM
Goose....

First you didn't invite me into the booth to stay dry...I was getting drenched.

Now, I see you're calling other guys "sweet"


to borrow a phrase from a GC poster......Please excuse goose...he's a good friend and an idiot! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 09, 2006, 04:34:21 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 09, 2006, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 02:26:41 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on October 08, 2006, 02:01:29 PM
Quote from: narch on October 08, 2006, 10:54:46 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AMAU has the worst fans.  I forgot to mention.  They show some of the worst class.

personally, i have to disagree - i thought the au fans at the mc/au game yesterday were very supportive of their team, and they brought a nice crowd that was pretty vocal - the mc crowd was decent, but they sat on their hands most of the game - i wish the monarchs could have a more significant home-field advantage - we're one of the largest schools in the usasac, but too few of the students go to and get loud at games...makes no sense to me

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2006, 09:34:56 AMOf course I show some class and keep my mouth shut.
unfortunately, you don't keep your keyboard shut :)

Narch - their basketball fans used to be obnoxious and annoying. They would sit behind the visitors bench even tho that was against USA South policy and make a huge and annoying racket. I do however commend their spirit in cheering for their team. They have calmed a bit now but still make a heckuva lot of noise which is great considering how far that program has come since Jimmy Allen took over. As for their football fans, couldnt tell ya. They sit on on the other side of the field!

They still are, and they still sit behind the bench of the visitors.  I have made that trip the past two years, and they are still there.

(GC has the calmest fans, thats because they don't have anyone show-up)

Basketball we have had better attendance.  Student Activities director at GC, told me that the Girls Basketball, out drew Men's basketball.  We all know why.

Oh its got to be based on playing ability, right Prideguy!!!!  ;)

I made this joke after the women won the title the first year. I think you make the guys team a bunch of girls and translate them to the size of that level (i.e a 7 footer guy to a 6'3 girl) The girls would beat them.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2006, 05:23:44 PM
rocket - i agree wholeheartedly on all 3 points, and i actually was thinking something similar as i went to the soccer games at 1/2 time of the football game and after the football game...there were probably 100+ fans @ each of those games...who knows if they would have gone to a fb game, though - the crowd did get into the game at a couple of appropriate times on saturday, but most other times they were just dead - the guys with the pom-poms at the front have been great at every game (painting their faces and chests at previous games), but they need help (and what was with the light blue golf shirts...maybe i should buy them some green golf shirts :)) - when i get a little loud at games i can always feel people looking at me like i'm crazy...it doesn't stop me but i want to ask them "why are you here if you're not going to cheer and support the team?" - official attendance this weekend was announced at just over 600, but there is NO WAY that's correct...the stands were full (there are 800+ seatbacks) and there were people on the grass...i'd bet there were at least 800-900 - there were probably 1000+ for the chowan game, and i wouldn't be surprised to see attendance top 1300 for homecoming, with all the 50th anniversary celebrations being coupled with normal hc activities and the game being vs. gc, who will probably bring a solid contingent - our facilities are too small for the number of people coming to games...now we just need the crowd to get a little more into the games

as for facilities, here is what i would like to see:
1. - expand the current press box with an addition on each end...put a permanent concession stand in one addition and restrooms in the other
2. - extend the seat backs on the north end of the stadium (left side, if you're looking at the field)...there are about 200 seatback chairs in storage somewhere on campus, from what i've heard
3. - if you really want to get crazy and expand seating to 1000+, add bleacher seating on the south end of the home side, but i don't think this is necessary yet
4. - build a fieldhouse/locker room/weight room on the visitor's side...put temporary bleacher seating for  300 or so on that side of the field and give those fans a seperate entrance and moveable concessions
5. - put a black wrought iron fence around the entire field with a brick column every 40 yards, or so, and make a nice brick & wrought iron gate at the entrance
6. - create a football booster club and designate the little parking lot beside the berns center as a tailgating lot - rope it off and let those willing to help bankroll items 1 through 5 have a place to hang out and have a little fun before games

1 & 2 seem like relatively simple things that could be done for little capital outlay since the maintenance staff could do the majority of the work - #3 isn't necessary yet, but would be a great way to look to the future of the program and institution...as mc continues to grow, the facilities will be neededd - #4 and #5 probably will not happen, but would make the facility a top-notch d3 facility - #6 is a pipe-dream :)

unfortunately, i don't know that any of these things will happen - i know the football program got some $$ this past year from the administration to make some much needed improvements to the locker/weight facility...it looks better, but it's still sub-par...and getting more $$ any time soon is probably not going to happen - there might be some faculty members who would have something to say about the football team getting that kind of cash before some upgrades are made in, say trustees or one of the other older classroom buildings (and rightly so)

until then, i still thouroughly enjoy each and every monarch game i attend, even when the monarchs lose in frustrating fashion as they did this weekend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2006, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 09, 2006, 12:31:15 PM
I also think MC needs a stadium upgrade.  I know the new facilities at Guilford have helped recruiting and made the game atmosphere more enjoyable.  

wow...those facilities must be REALLY nice, because guilford's old facilities were laughable compared to monarch stadium - the splinters from those decaying wooden bleachers were tough :)...i'll have to make a trip up to the 'boro to check them out
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 09, 2006, 07:01:49 PM

I was impressed with the Guilford stadium when Greensboro played there. The visitors side was just the normal aluminum bleachers, but who cares about the visitors side. The home side looked very nice with a lot of brick and wrought iron. The press box looked pretty impressive and I used the home side facilities and they were nice. The visitors side had green outhouse port-a-johns. And they still had the grassy knoll to sit on for those who don't want to sit in the bleachers.  It may not be the nicest stadium in D3 like the announcer bragged, but they were still nice, nonetheless.  8)





ROLL PRIDE ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 09, 2006, 08:20:50 PM
Quote from: narch on October 09, 2006, 05:32:10 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 09, 2006, 12:31:15 PM
I also think MC needs a stadium upgrade.  I know the new facilities at Guilford have helped recruiting and made the game atmosphere more enjoyable.  

wow...those facilities must be REALLY nice, because guilford's old facilities were laughable compared to monarch stadium - the splinters from those decaying wooden bleachers were tough :)...i'll have to make a trip up to the 'boro to check them out
I think "laughable" is exactly the right word - they were absolutely awful from my point of view.  This afternoon, I posted some photos from Homecoming on the ODAC site.   Go take a look.  I'll post a little more below in response to D3Newbie's post. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 09, 2006, 08:27:27 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 09, 2006, 07:01:49 PM

I was impressed with the Guilford stadium when Greensboro played there. The visitors side was just the normal aluminum bleachers, but who cares about the visitors side. The home side looked very nice with a lot of brick and wrought iron. The press box looked pretty impressive and I used the home side facilities and they were nice. The visitors side had green outhouse port-a-johns. And they still had the grassy knoll to sit on for those who don't want to sit in the bleachers.  It may not be the nicest stadium in D3 like the announcer bragged, but they were still nice, nonetheless.  8)





ROLL PRIDE ! ! !
D3Newbie - Thanks for the compliments on the Phase I improvements to Armfield Athletic Stadium.  I'm sorry the visitor side isn't up to par yet, but that's part of Phase II in the summer of 2007.  As I understand it, other upgrades in Phase II besides the visitor side stands will be lights for night games, field turf, a bigger/improved ticketing area and more landscaping.  The announcer you talked about was Guilford President Kent Chabotar, so you'll have to overlook his enthusiastic speech to the alumni at halftime.  It's nice, but not "best in d3."  :) 
Title: Since we're on the topic
Post by: Eh-You on October 09, 2006, 10:30:28 PM
I hate Averett's football facilities. (Hop eye spelle everything write - wouldn't wont hasanova to be so board wit da ODAC bored that he korrects my gramR) Not including the fieldhouse - haven't seen the inside.
Title: Re: Since we're on the topic
Post by: religion_major on October 09, 2006, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 09, 2006, 10:30:28 PM
I hate Averett's football facilities. (Hop eye spelle everything write - wouldn't wont hasanova to be so board wit da ODAC bored that he korrects my gramR) Not including the fieldhouse - haven't seen the inside.

W&L doesn't play any games against USAC teams so I don't think you have to worry about the gramer police over here as much as on the ODAC board. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2006, 10:52:48 PM
legacy - any word on the pitts injury situation?...need some info for my pick 'ems :)
Title: Re: Since we're on the topic
Post by: Llamaguy on October 09, 2006, 11:31:02 PM
Quote from: religion_major on October 09, 2006, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 09, 2006, 10:30:28 PM
I hate Averett's football facilities. (Hop eye spelle everything write - wouldn't wont hasanova to be so board wit da ODAC bored that he korrects my gramR) Not including the fieldhouse - haven't seen the inside.

W&L doesn't play any games against USAC teams so I don't think you have to worry about the gramer police over here as much as on the ODAC board. ;)

That goes for spelling too!  :o
Title: Re: Since we're on the topic
Post by: hasanova on October 09, 2006, 11:56:35 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 09, 2006, 10:30:28 PM
I hate Averett's football facilities. (Hop eye spelle everything write - wouldn't wont hasanova to be so board wit da ODAC bored that he korrects my gramR) Not including the fieldhouse - haven't seen the inside.
"Fun E ewe wood cey that a bout aver it's futbol fasealitees awn this bored.  Win eye wuz their own Septimber 16, aye thot it wuz won of thee weird S feelds anne seton aria's ide scene."  It reminded me of a large kid's erector set dumped out of the box on the home side.   :-\  Please don't worry about me correcting all the grammar on d3 football boards.  I simply don't have that much time and energy.  :)  Besides, I was a math and economics major, so what do I know?  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 10, 2006, 01:10:26 AM
Quote from: narch on October 09, 2006, 10:52:48 PM
legacy - any word on the pitts injury situation?...need some info for my pick 'ems :)

Good question, narch. Let me get back to you on that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 10, 2006, 08:30:45 AM
What do you all think is a good measure of success? Winning the title?  Winning the conference?  Beating Mount Union?  ;) ;D.  I know it is a simple question, but GC is playing SU saturday not much to talk about in that game.

Just Thoughts:  I had a football coach tell me not so long ago, sometimes all it takes is one win, to get you going. I think Maryville's double OT win, was the win they needed.  Once GC takes down CNU, AU or FC.  It might be the win they needed to get them finally on the winning side of a record.

Title: Back 2 Back......
Post by: Eh-You on October 10, 2006, 09:11:46 AM
Congrats to J. Hughley on back to back offensive player of the week awards. Honestly, you could triple cover him and he'll win the award every week. That is, as long as Parsons has time to throw it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 10, 2006, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 10, 2006, 08:30:45 AM
What do you all think is a good measure of success?

varies by program and year - for gc, a winning record would be a good place to start

Quote from: Eh-You on October 10, 2006, 09:11:46 AM
Congrats to J. Hughley on back to back offensive player of the week awards. Honestly, you could triple cover him and he'll win the award every week. That is, as long as Parsons has time to throw it.
he was triple covered on the big sideline catch at the end of the first half on saturday...that was a HUGE play that might have made the difference in the game - perfectly thrown ball and a great catch...he's a stud
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 10, 2006, 09:39:03 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on October 10, 2006, 01:10:26 AM
Quote from: narch on October 09, 2006, 10:52:48 PM
legacy - any word on the pitts injury situation?...need some info for my pick 'ems :)

Good question, narch. Let me get back to you on that.

narch,
I'm told Pitts sat out only one series last week and came back into the game for the final drive. He's fine and will be playing this weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 10, 2006, 10:43:43 AM
Narch
"a winning record would be a good place to start". Ouch. Narch has had the problem of telling the truth but now has found his stride.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 10, 2006, 11:02:56 AM
Quote from: narch on October 10, 2006, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 10, 2006, 08:30:45 AM
What do you all think is a good measure of success?

varies by program and year - for gc, a winning record would be a good place to start


Totally agree with you, Narch.  :o (Now, that's scary!)  ???

But to do that The Pride will need beat two of these three teams:
Averett, Methodist, Ferrum - which two?  :-\

To finish at .500 they will need to beat one of those three . . . . which one is the most likely victim?  :-\

And that is assuming they beat Shenandoah and NC Wesleyan . . .  ::)

Of course I need someone to check my math -hey, eh-you - yeah, you - you were a math major, right? Help me out here . . .  :)

BTW, I am still accepting Karma . . . .  ;D ;D ;D





ROLL PRIDE ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 10, 2006, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 10, 2006, 11:02:56 AM
BTW, I am still accepting Karma . . . .  ;D ;D ;D

Funny thing about karma.  Asking for it often doesn't yield the desired results.   ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 10, 2006, 11:30:13 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 10, 2006, 10:43:43 AM
Narch
"a winning record would be a good place to start". Ouch. Narch has had the problem of telling the truth but now has found his stride.
"The truth will set you free."  Honestly, after being 1-9 in 2005 and sitting at 2-3 in 2006, I think the Pride will finish somewhere around 4-6.  I hope they'll finish at .500 or above, but a three win improvement is still a significant step in the right direction.  I know the Pride faithful wanted to catapult from 1-9 last fall to 2006 conference champs, but I just don't see it yet.   Fairy tales can come true, but I don't think it's happening this year.  Good luck the rest of the season.  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 10, 2006, 12:08:34 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on October 10, 2006, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 10, 2006, 11:02:56 AM
BTW, I am still accepting Karma . . . .  ;D ;D ;D
Funny thing about karma.  Asking for it often doesn't yield the desired results.   ;)

There once were some posters a pleading
For thumbs up in karma they're needing.
They begged all the others,
"Please, help your poor brothers!"
Weak eyes, but those aren't thumbs I'm reading!

Good things (and karma) will come to those who wait.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 10, 2006, 12:16:05 PM
Narch, looks like we opened up the passing game a little bit this week.  Was that due to the game or does the coaching staff feel more comfortable with Parks throwing the ball?
Looks like we finally got the run game going.  We will need it this week to counter FC's rushing attack.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 10, 2006, 12:17:56 PM
Papi
Looks like you will be busy this week with that Nor'ester brewing. Stay bouyant
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 10, 2006, 12:29:27 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on September 26, 2006, 05:21:03 PM
Karma, I don't need your stinking Karma.

OK, so DITTO . . . . .  . :P



geez, try to be nice to some people . . . . ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 10, 2006, 02:36:30 PM
back on the topic of measuring succes...

here is what i think the measure of success for each team was before the season (and how likely it is the team will acheive that measure) - this isn't necessarily what i think measures success, but what i think each coach and each team's fans expected to be able to realistically acheive, so there is MUCH conjecture here - listed in order of my personal pre-season expectations for where each team would finish:

averett - getting to the playoffs for the first time in program history and surviving the first 2 weeks of the season (still possible and i'd say they clearly survived the schedule)

cnu - getting back to the playoffs and winning a game (still possible, maybe even probable)

ferrum - 7 - 8 wins competing for a conference championship (probably playing spoiler role with 2 losses)

methodist - 7-8 wins and competing for a conference championship (probably playing spoiler role with 2 losses)

ncwc - winning season (still possible, but losses to ehc and nna hurt)

g'boro - winning season (still possible, but i don't see it happening)

m'ville - winning conference record and improving from week to week (very much possible, especially after big wins the last 2 weeks)

su - win a conference game or 2 (i don't see this happening, either)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 08:45:56 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 10, 2006, 08:30:45 AM
What do you all think is a good measure of success? Winning the title?  Winning the conference?  Beating Mount Union?  ;) ;D.  I know it is a simple question, but GC is playing SU saturday not much to talk about in that game.

Just Thoughts:  I had a football coach tell me not so long ago, sometimes all it takes is one win, to get you going. I think Maryville's double OT win, was the win they needed.  Once GC takes down CNU, AU or FC.  It might be the win they needed to get them finally on the winning side of a record.



A new coach is about the only thing GC needs to "get it going"...until then.....I'll mark a W each year for CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on October 11, 2006, 08:49:42 AM
MY PIcks for the week:

Greencsboro 35 vs Shennandoah 14 - I like Greensboro in this one. SU has only scored 29 pts. all year. The interesting thing to me is that SU has not scored a point in the first half this year. That is pretty unbelievable. I think it will be closer than the spread says, but im goin with GC.

CNU 31 vs. Maryville 7-  I am going with CNU. They have a good team, not a great one, but a good team this year. The defense is outstanding, it is the offense that is letting them down. Maryville is not bad, but their offense is not going to dominate the defense of CNU.

AVERETT 28 vs. NCWC 17- Averett has a good team this year and they are playing well together as a unit. The offense is playing well and the defense is playing terrific as well. I think NOV. 4 for the cougars and the captains is going to be huge, and i think we may actually finally have one winner for the USASAC championship.

MC 21 vs. Ferrum 17- This game will be good. MC's rushign defense is outstanding this year. They held Kyle Wilson to 68 yrds. and this kid was an all-conference pick last year. Everyone knows that Ferrum can not throw the ball. If you force them to throw they will loose. Look at what happened last year in the playoffs. Wesley made them play from behind and force them to throw and pitts played the worst game of his career. MC gets its first conference win sat.

This question is for everyone, what in the world is going on with SU's offense this year. i mean come on 29 points the whole year and not scored yet in the first half of any ballgames. I mean i know MC'S offense is not doing terrific, i mean hell we have trouble finding the endzone through the air, but i mean we have a running game. Is anyone hurt up there, or are they young or whats going on. I am not hating on them at all, dont think for once that i am, but i mean i would like to know what in the world has happened to them. 3 years ago, they could score like no other, now they have basically no offense.

Rocket- hey man, listen i was thinking about what could help us in improving the stadium and fan support from the student body. I think everything you said is great, but one thing i think we left out is this. They need to putn lights up and lets play games under the lights at nighttime. Football play at night and then soccer, i mean switch it up. This way everyone could come and watch and support the college. Remember back 2 years ago when we played CNU for homecoming and they flew the ball in and had a pretty good time going on, everyone was there and showed support, thats what we need i think it will greatly help.

Narch- why have they been so against putting lights up on the field? we have talked about it since i was a freshman, and now i have graduated and still wondering. Do you know anything behind the answers of NO?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 08:56:44 AM
Quote from: narch on October 07, 2006, 12:57:08 PM

i normally think those at private colleges are much more intelligent than those at a public school, but i've got to side with the cnu folks here (wow, did i really say that ???)

dang I was scrolling back through the board and I missed this post!!

i normally think those at private colleges are not more intelligent, just more privileged. Often they are less understanding of the world around them (snotty) and thus do not function as well in the business world. I even wonder if sometimes there is too much in-breeding of the socially elite and that produces some very unstable individuals.....just a personal observation from 20+ years working with all kinds of people.  ;D

thanks Narch........just curious though about the intelligent factor...what would you say about people with a degree from the public school William & Mary????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 11, 2006, 09:38:51 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 08:56:44 AM

dang I was scrolling back through the board and I missed this post!!

i normally think those at private colleges are not more intelligent, just more privileged. Often they are less understanding of the world around them (snotty) and thus do not function as well in the business world. I even wonder if sometimes there is too much in-breeding of the socially elite and that produces some very unstable individuals.....just a personal observation from 20+ years working with all kinds of people.  ;D

thanks Narch........just curious though about the intelligent factor...what would you say about people with a degree from the public school William & Mary????

I don't think a vast majority of kids at most private schools are members of the socially elite.  Most of us, however, are members of that elite group that spend the rest of their lives trying to pay back our student loans  :D

MCol...I don't see MC putting lights on the field anytime in the future.  Think about how many d3 stadiums you played in while at MC, how many of them had lights?  I think I played one night game while at MC and that was at GC for their homecoming.  I played in a few more stadiums with lights when I was playing at the CG academy but more schools up north have lights (probably because it seems to get dark at like 2pm up there  ;) )

They should do more things to get the community involved like invite the pop warner teams in the area to the game.  They did that one year during fall break (because they knew there would be no students there) and the place was packed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 09:58:28 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 08:56:44 AM
Quote from: narch on October 07, 2006, 12:57:08 PM

i normally think those at private colleges are much more intelligent than those at a public school, but i've got to side with the cnu folks here (wow, did i really say that ???)

dang I was scrolling back through the board and I missed this post!!

i normally think those at private colleges are not more intelligent, just more privileged. Often they are less understanding of the world around them (snotty) and thus do not function as well in the business world. I even wonder if sometimes there is too much in-breeding of the socially elite and that produces some very unstable individuals.....just a personal observation from 20+ years working with all kinds of people.  ;D

thanks Narch........just curious though about the intelligent factor...what would you say about people with a degree from the public school William & Mary????
I know you guys are just kidding around, but generally speaking, I always felt it really doesn't matter where you came from, what's in your bank account or where you went to school.  To me, it's what's in your heart and mind that really matters.  Peace

There once was a friendly debate
About schools - whether private or state.
Both wrong, yet both right.
The wallet has might,
But wise souls have strength to be great.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 10:01:50 AM
yeah Narch and I mess with other all the time...it's fun!

and since nobody is left from CNU on these boards (incl Hoops).....I like being able to joke around.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 10:06:12 AM
Hasanova is a poet
And he sure does know it
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 10:07:30 AM
probably even knows what iambic pentameter is. (did I get the spelling right?)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 11, 2006, 10:11:49 AM
I'm looking forward to his Haiku lesson!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 10:14:39 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 10:01:50 AM
yeah Narch and I mess with other all the time...it's fun!

and since nobody is left from CNU on these boards (incl Hoops).....I like being able to joke around.
Hey, I understand.  Kidding around keeps you going!  I went to a private undergraduate school only because I was able get a scholarship - there was no way my family could afford it on their own.  My roommate my freshman year was unpacking a Loius Vuitton suitcase and I was pulling my stuff out of Kroger grocery bags.  lol  He was a good guy, however, and treated me great.  I then went to a state-supported school for the same reason.  Trust me, you see the best - and worst - in human behavior at both types of schools.  Bad - and good - behavior has no boundaries.  :)  Peace  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 10:17:42 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 10:06:12 AM
Hasanova is a poet  And he sure does know it
If you suck at sports, you're forced to develop other skills.  :)  Ask the guys who were on the Guilford soccer team with me - they'll tell you.  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 10:19:07 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 10:07:30 AM
probably even knows what iambic pentameter is. (did I get the spelling right?)
I do and you did.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 10:24:26 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 11, 2006, 10:11:49 AMI'm looking forward to his Haiku lesson!
Here you go, complete with nautical theme :)

Angry sea at night
Waves of dark death until dawn
Sunlight gives her life
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 11, 2006, 10:33:57 AM
Now that's spiritual!!!   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 10:46:33 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 11, 2006, 10:33:57 AMNow that's spiritual!!!   ;D
Thanks.  I truly admire what the USCG does - and does well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 11, 2006, 11:45:27 AM
Hasa
I personally like it when the CG blows the superstructure down to the keel. That's when I like them.

No...... Papi's boys do the dangerous on a daily basis.

Now that the dirty birds are coming this week are you painted in crimson with a grey touch? ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 11, 2006, 12:01:13 PM
A USMC Colonel once told me that we make the dangerous look routine and the routine look dangerous  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 12:04:46 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 11, 2006, 11:45:27 AM
Hasa
I personally like it when the CG blows the superstructure down to the keel. That's when I like them.

No...... Papi's boys do the dangerous on a daily basis.

Now that the dirty birds are coming this week are you painted in crimson with a grey touch? ;)
abnrgr, firepower is an awesome thing!  Shooting one over the bow would be enough to get my attention!  :)  All out of paint.  lol  Will a Quaker sweatshirt and cap be enough?  I was going to paint a "G" on my chest, but I couldn't get seven other people to go along.  Three other guys agreed to be the "U", "R" and "D,"  but we didn't like the looks of that!   Where are FOIL when you need them?  They're terrible spellers anyway and who knows what would happen if they started changing seats!  :)  Go Quakers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 12:06:14 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 11, 2006, 12:01:13 PM
A USMC Colonel once told me that we make the dangerous look routine and the routine look dangerous  ;D
I like that.  Some football teams do that too.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 11, 2006, 12:23:00 PM
Hasa
Tell all those others who will not paint themselves that there's no Quaker in Team...make them feel bad.

I was calling the game BC +8.5 in a 80 point game. What's you call
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 12:38:34 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 11, 2006, 12:23:00 PM
Hasa
Tell all those others who will not paint themselves that there's no Quaker in Team...make them feel bad.

I was calling the game BC +8.5 in a 80 point game. What's you call
I want to be a loyal fan, but I objectively see BC as the stronger, more balanced team.  My heart says Guilford pulls it out in the fourth quarter, but my wallet (if I was a betting man lol) says Bridgewater by 13 or so.  Maybe 47-34 or something like that.  I hope I'm wrong on the second scenario.  Go Quakers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 01:05:49 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 10:24:26 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 11, 2006, 10:11:49 AMI'm looking forward to his Haiku lesson!
Here you go, complete with nautical theme :)

Angry sea at night
Waves of dark death until dawn
Sunlight gives her life


a nautical theme...just for the Captains.....do you have one for the other teams in the conference?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 01:41:59 PM
Anybody seen my buddies Gullett and Goose? I can understand Gullett hiding and licking his wounds from the thrashing last Saturday. Goose hasn't posted in a few days!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 01:05:49 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 10:24:26 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 11, 2006, 10:11:49 AMI'm looking forward to his Haiku lesson!
Here you go, complete with nautical theme :)

Angry sea at night
Waves of dark death until dawn
Sunlight gives her life

a nautical theme...just for the Captains.....do you have one for the other teams in the conference?
Someone made a dare on the ODAC men's basketball board a week or two ago and I pulled those ten limericks out of my 'hat," so I guess USASAC football can also be done.  Give me a little time and I'll see what I can do.  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 02:17:36 PM
that's too funny.......I could write some of that stuff too....but I'd get kicked off for the pornographic content
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 02:32:52 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 01:05:49 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 10:24:26 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 11, 2006, 10:11:49 AMI'm looking forward to his Haiku lesson!
Here you go, complete with nautical theme :)

Angry sea at night
Waves of dark death until dawn
Sunlight gives her life

a nautical theme...just for the Captains.....do you have one for the other teams in the conference?

Susan Constant sails
Captain Newport of new worlds
Kept sea dreams on course
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 02:35:46 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 02:17:36 PM
that's too funny.......I could write some of that stuff too....but I'd get kicked off for the pornographic content
You just have to choose your words carefully.  Say poetic stuff like "omnipotent staff of life" instead of, well, you know.  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 03:09:01 PM
how about "dyslexic anorexia" instead of......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2006, 04:33:12 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 11, 2006, 03:09:01 PM
how about "dyslexic anorexia" instead of......
That reminds me of one of my favorite jokes:  Q. What does a dyslexic, agnostic insomniac do in the middle of the night?  A.  He stays awake and wonders if there really is a DOG.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 11, 2006, 08:58:06 PM
Keys to the Game GC vs SU

Greensboro

Control the Clock-SU has always been a good team when they can control the clock.  They aren't doing a good job of it this year.  The record shows.

Force TO-they have the fewest TO's of all teams in the conference.  The secondary won't be putting up numbers they are used to.  TO's need to come elsewhere

Have Balanced Offensive Attack-they are good at stopping the pass but not good aT Stopping the run.  Balance will add some pressure.

SU

Score some points-Face it they need to score to win.  Right now they aren't doing it.

Avoid History-  Of all the teams in the conference SU doesn't play GC well.

Hold on to the football-Gc can force TO's and they will be looking to do it some more.  They can't win, if they can't score.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 12, 2006, 09:30:12 AM
Shenandoah 7 at Greensboro 28 -Even GC is too much for SU

Christopher Newport 21 at Maryville 3-It could be alot worse, but it is a long road trip.

Averett 21 Wesleyan 24-I call this my upset in the pick'em.  I think if NCWC can pass the ball like they have been.  Well AU can's stop the pass.

Ferrum 21 at Methodist 28 FC just isn't that good as we all thought.  Its a trip for FC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2006, 09:54:08 AM
here gullett gullett gullett.......here gullett gullett gullett.....


where'd he go? After he went to CNU and sniffed a whole can of whoopazz.......he must be dizzy and recovering!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2006, 01:35:49 PM
dang, I need better catnip!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 12, 2006, 01:45:01 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 12, 2006, 09:54:08 AM
here gullett gullett gullett.......here gullett gullett gullett.....


where'd he go? After he went to CNU and sniffed a whole can of whoopazz.......he must be dizzy and recovering!!!!
just like a gc guy to avoid the board after a loss :)...imagine what will happen to the pride fans when they finish 4-6 :)...this board will really dry up

seriously, though, if i've seen it once on these boards, i've seen it at least 10 times - a fan of team a comes on the boards talking about how "this will be our year" and backs it up with some seemingly factual insider knowledge about why, only to shrink back into oblivion once he/she realizes this will not, indeed, be their year (although i thought gullet was man enough to post regardless of outcome...maybe he's been out of town for the last couple of days...let's give him the benefit of the doubt)

one of the things i admire about you, '85 and  guys like goose and mike stanley (r.i.p.p. - rest in posting peace) is your ability to post on the football and hoops boards through the good and bad (although, your bad hasn't been nearly as bad as what the gc fans have experienced :)) - i also enjoy that you guys are intelligent enough to understand this is just an internet message board and that the jabs we take at each other are mostly in jest and all in the name of showing our fanaticism for our teams and d3 athletics - i understand that when i made a couple of offhand remarks about gc (calling them the lady lions...which is a perfectly biologically accurate description of a pride...and making references to a fissure) that some fan(s) sent pat coleman an email complaining about my posts...lighten up folks, it's just an internet message board

sorry, that's been lurking under my fingertips for a few weeks, and i just decided to let it out - please insert usasac/d3 football talk here:
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 12, 2006, 01:55:08 PM
he's alive!!!

Quote from: GCGullett on October 12, 2006, 01:00:21 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on October 08, 2006, 12:57:11 AM
Here are the Pick Your Knows games for Week 7:

10/14
Shenandoah (+20.5) at Greensboro      
Christopher Newport at Maryville (+24.5)
Averett at Wesleyan (+10.5)
Ferrum (even) at Methodist

National
UW-La Crosse (+7.5) at UW-Whitewater
St. Olaf at Concordia-Moorhead (+6.5)

And here's the official "you'll never guess this in a million years" tiebreaker: What will be the combined yardage of Maryville's punts in the game against CNU this weekend? 320


this was posted on the pick 'em board just under an hour ago...so that slack i cut him is tightening a little bit :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 12, 2006, 02:27:47 PM
Narch, what's with all this sentimental and philosophical non-sense...do I need to drag you back to 22 North and talk some sense into you! ;)

Are you gonna be at the game this weekend?  I may drive up for it, depends on the weather, if it's gonna be purty I'll be offshore WB doing a lil' fishin'
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 12, 2006, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: narch on October 12, 2006, 01:45:01 PM

just like a gc guy to avoid the board after a loss :)...imagine what will happen to the pride fans when they finish 4-6 :)...this board will really dry up


Hey, narch . . .why so personal?   ???

Just because Gullett hasn't posted in the past 48 hours probably just means he has a life outside of this forum. Prideguy & myself are pride fans and I think we have posted pretty consistently on this forum, even after the CNU shellacking.  :-\

You said these posts "are mostly in jest", but flaming, pulling the wings off of flies and kicking someone when they're down is not - IMO.  :-*

I, like other Pride fans, expected more out of our team this year, but I am very proud of what they have accomplished. I would have liked to see them do better, and maybe they will the rest of the season. But I challenge you to find where I have ever disrespected another team or made fun of other posters - even in jest. And what makes you think it was a Pride fan that reported you to Pat? Evidently he said something to you about your posts since you bring it up every other post.  :'(

I for one will be glad when the Methodist/Greensboro game is over, whoever wins. Then maybe you can pick on someone else besides the lady lions - what other team are you afraid of this year?  :P

Peace, brother - at least until after the Lady Lions play the Methodist Queens!  ;D Maybe the best team will actually win this one . . . . .  ::)




ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2006, 03:28:57 PM
I remember when I was a kid I LMAO when I pulled wings off of flies. and I remember the other kids laughing when they were kicking me when I was down......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2006, 03:30:21 PM
also...there's more to Narch's post than the black and white letters that appear on this board.

As foghorn Leghorn would say....."It's an inside joke, son"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 12, 2006, 04:11:55 PM
I say..I say..I said...I said BOY that there's an inside joke!

Calm down Newbie...If we weren't all always flaming each other, this board would be more boring than listening to John Madden talk politics.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2006, 04:25:47 PM
too funny papi.....

I actually spent about 30 minutes Saturday morning watching Scooby Doo.....hadn't done that in awhile!! We need a classic Cartoon Network, not that crappy one they have on now......I want Underdog back!!! Remember Ralph and Sam,  sheep dog and wolf, who would punch a clock, then the wolf would try to eat the sheep, and the dog would beat the mess out of him....then they'd punch the clock for lunch, punch back in, and start all over again.....they always finished the day with:

"goodnight Sam"
"goodnight Ralph"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 12, 2006, 04:27:55 PM
85 still up to your shinanaganz!

Ive seen the PRIDE play a few times this year and they hae some untapped potential.  They stack up to a lot of d3 teams and I know they are capable of winning many more games this season.

Roll Pride!



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 12, 2006, 04:32:47 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 12, 2006, 04:27:55 PM
85 still up to your shinanaganz!

Ive seen the PRIDE play a few times this year and they hae some untapped potential.  They stack up to a lot of d3 teams and I know they are capable of winning many more games this season.

Roll Pride!
Mosh, good to hear from you.  I know you saw the Pride from the Quaker sideline on Sept. 30.  That must be a strange feeling.  I think Greensboro does have some good talent and I believe they'll win 4 - maybe 5 - this season and that'll be a nice improvement over 2005. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2006, 04:34:51 PM
Mosh - you forgot to put in the smiley that indicated you were joking!!

I always say "untapped potential" is the dumbest thing. I have untapped potential to become a nuclear physicist. I have untapped potential to be the CFO of Exxon.

In sports, to me, "untapped potential" is the same as saying.......they could be good but they're not. What the heck does that mean?

Bob Uecker could be in the Hall of Fame for playing baseball and batting .200, but his potential was untapped.

I'll humor you for a minute and assume that it means that the players could be better than they are performing. So, if the potential is not being "tapped"...isn't it time for a new coach?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 12, 2006, 05:13:35 PM
85....you know what's amazing to me is if you keep a bunch of grown men in a room together long enough they will start talking about the classic cartoons.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 12, 2006, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 12, 2006, 04:25:47 PMWe need a classic Cartoon Network, not that crappy one they have on now......I want Underdog back!!!

don't you have boomerang?...i watched hong-kong fooey with my 3 1/2 year old last night, and the laugh olympics...great stuff, and she loved every minute - cartoons today just don't compare

if you have a dvr with time warner, there is a cartoon "on-demand" station that has some great classic stuff, as well

what's up mosh...good to get your $.02 every once in a while - will we see more of you after the season?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2006, 05:16:30 PM
We could talk about other things, but that would lead to cold showers and being banned from the board.

I guess the CNU team is leaving about now for Maryville. Coach said last week on the radio that they would practice, eat dinner, and head as far as Roanoke tonight. Then finish the trip tomorrow. The outcome and score of that game will tell me a lot about the rest of the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2006, 05:18:19 PM
Hong Kong Phooey....makes me want to jump into a file cabinet and change clothes!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 12, 2006, 05:33:53 PM
Bing, Bang, Bing Riccohet Rabbit!!!  Grape Ape...Grape Ape (must have been one kick butt suspension on that van)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 12, 2006, 11:17:27 PM
Great Stuff.  I have missed too much since a day ago. I haven't left yet. (If AU beats GC, I could be gone a whole week.  A little deal eh-you and I have.)  When I started posting on this board.  GC was favored to finish last.  Some posters have said they won't.  I guess I made them a better team, because the coaches sure didn't think they were worth 4 or 5 wins most feel they are capable of getting ;D.  That includes me.  5 wins will mean they would have to beat somebody they have never beaten or hardly beaten.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 13, 2006, 12:14:48 AM
Just got back from Air Force VS Colorado State U. Head knocker. AF stormed back down 21-3 and won. CSU has some athletic LBs. Huge and fast.

Anyway good luck MC this weekend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 13, 2006, 01:12:30 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 12, 2006, 03:30:21 PM
also...there's more to Narch's post than the black and white letters that appear on this board.

As foghorn Leghorn would say....."It's an inside joke, son"

NARCH - my sincerest apologies . . .I'm getting so tired of being a newbie . . . .  :'(

Inside joke - I'll accept that, just didn't want to see anyone beating up on a new friend. :(

Thanks CNU & Sir Papi . . . . (BTW, do you know a retired admiral named Vern Clark? I knew his parents and they're old friends of the family in Illinois - and he and I (and my wife) are fellow alumni)  :D

I get five or six cartoon channels - my grandkids watch them whenever they come over - but despite my best efforts, they like the new ones better than the great classics! :-\
And my wife makes me DVR all the old Roy Rogers shows . . . .  ::)

a-tha-a-tha-a-tha-a-that's alllllll, folks!  ;)

Oh, BTW, good to see everyone picking GC over Shenandoah ! ! !




ROLL TIDE ! ! ! !


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 13, 2006, 11:23:42 AM
Newbie...no I don't know him...I try to stay out of the presence of Admiral's because that would probably mean I'm in some sort of big trouble!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2006, 01:12:46 PM
How can anyone even remotely involved in any branch of service (I know USCG is technically a part of DHS)...not know the CNO?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 13, 2006, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 13, 2006, 01:12:30 AMNARCH - my sincerest apologies . . .I'm getting so tired of being a newbie . . . .  :'(
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 12, 2006, 02:46:30 PMJust because Gullett hasn't posted in the past 48 hours probably just means he has a life outside of this forum. Prideguy & myself are pride fans and I think we have posted pretty consistently on this forum, even after the CNU shellacking.  :-\

newbie - we're all good, no apologies needed - it's not so much a "joke" as it is a statement - i'm also talking as someone who has seen how things work on these boards over the last 6 or 7 years - i've seen way too many times that fans come on these boards talking about how their team will be great this year, only to shrink back into their hole when reality sets in...when i see that coming, i try to call them on it and prevent it from happening - this board is better when you have multiple perspectives - maybe that won't be the case with you gc fans (i hope it isn't) - certainly yourself and prideguy have shown resilience to this point, but we've seen fans of each school come and go over the years...last year it was a group of ferrum fans proclaiming the panthers as a top 25 team...

Quote from: D3Newbie on October 12, 2006, 02:46:30 PMYou said these posts "are mostly in jest", but flaming, pulling the wings off of flies and kicking someone when they're down is not - IMO.  :-*
if gullet no longer posts on these boards, i'd like to reserve the right to say "told you so" without being called a flamer :)

Quote from: D3Newbie on October 12, 2006, 02:46:30 PMPeace, brother - at least until after the Lady Lions play the Meth Queens!  ;D
this is exactly what i mean by "mostly in jest"...i'm intelligent enough to realize you don't literally mean that the monarchs are drag queens on methamphetamines and clearly this isn't flaming...just a little harmless humor, nothing to run off crying about

Quote from: D3Newbie on October 12, 2006, 02:46:30 PMMaybe the best team will actually win this one . . . . .  ::)
and if not we can always blame the officials, right :)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 13, 2006, 02:12:52 PM
For those wondering, I am still here, alive and beaming with Pride!

Thanks for watching my back, Newbie, your thoughts were right on.

My recent absence from board has nothing to do with a loss or two.

Roll GC Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2006, 02:24:05 PM
Gullet comes alive with a Politically Correct post. It looked censored.

"I did not have sex with that woman..."  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2006, 02:39:59 PM
can't believe the season is 1/2 over......just seems like it hasn't really started.....only having 2 home games so far and playing on the road this week, doesn't seem like a football season yet. After tomorrow CNU will have 3 of the last 4 at home. Pull this one off and look out!!! Glad we don't have to travel to AU and FC this year. It's gonna be tough enough at home.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 13, 2006, 04:22:59 PM
Guys
The Chief of Naval Operations would let me and Papi do his boots...... maybe. Hooah
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 13, 2006, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: narch on October 13, 2006, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 12, 2006, 02:46:30 PMPeace, brother - at least until after the Lady Lions play the Meth Queens!  ;D
this is exactly what i mean by "mostly in jest"...i'm intelligent enough to realize you don't literally mean that the monarchs are drag queens on methamphetamines and clearly this isn't flaming...just a little harmless humor, nothing to run off crying about

I know you are not going to believe this, but I did not catch the 'meth' part, or I would have corrected it. (which has now been done)  I was really only abbreviating Methodist because I was in a hurry . . .won't happen again. I kind of feel stupid about it - not a new feeling.  :( Guess I getting old and missing stuff. ('Stuff' is the word we used for drugs in my day - right, Cheech?!)  ;)

I thought the Methodist Queens was a good reply to the Lady Lions - again, in jest. Maybe not . . .  :-\

I think Admiral Clark retired, at least that is what my mom told me. I really don't know him well - he should know my name - we were kids back in the day. His father was one my favorite adults back then - had a real sense of humor - our dad's worked together back in the 60's. Did you know that the president of our alma mater when he graduated was former Attorney General John Ashcroft's father? Small world!!  8)

Pride followers - any news on this weekend?  How's Herbin doing? I thought we really missed him last week. I still think we could run the option more with our alternative QBs . . .  :-X

Anyone else notice that GC has had a different freshman named rookie of the week for three different weeks? I think all on defense!! Bodes well for The Pride future!  :o



ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !  




Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 13, 2006, 09:13:58 PM
Just stating Narch I am a big time CNU fan. The only reason I don't post as often anymore is because of my job and other responsibilities. Also I'm kind of in a rock in a hard place when it comes to CNU football posting. Its kind of hard posting the facts about your favorite team good and bad when you have sweated with a lot of the guys who are stars on the team now. 

But I can understand why you made that statement. I haven't heard much from SU or FC fans as of lately. So its kind of funny someone has sort of pointed out fake fans/bandwagon hoppers.

It was also kind of surprising to see you take side with CNU posters a week or so back.
Guess it's a little easier to secretly root for good ol' CNU when the boys got your boy Rocket a ring last year.  ;) ;D

GOOD LUCK TO THE CAPTAINS THIS WEEK. KEEP WINNING AND HOPEFULLY IN LATER NOV. AND DEC. MOST TEAMS WILL HAVE TO COME TO YOU    ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 13, 2006, 10:20:26 PM

Shenandoah Injury Report:
SU Injury Report: Out: QB Mark Sanford (collarbone). Questionable:
QB Twaun Rhodes (leg); RB Teley Tate (leg); Doubtful: QB Richard Glick (leg).

So . . . . do they have a back-up QB for this game?  They better hope Derby has a good game . . . . :-X

PASSING              G    Effic   Att-Cmp-Int   Pct    Yds   TD     Lng    Avg/G
DERBY, Blake        4      42.71   11-37-1         29.7    81    0      15      20.2
RHODES, Twaun    3   160.91     6-14-1         42.9  142     2      48     47.3
SANFORD, Mark    1      -8.24     1-5-1           20.0      7     0        7       7.0
GLICK, Richard     1     0.00      0-2-0             0.0      0     0        0       0.0
Total..........          5      65.38   18-58-3          31.0  230     2      48     46.0




ROLL PRIDE ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 14, 2006, 04:49:30 AM
Yeah its real early.  I am about to make the 6 hour trip back to NC. 
Newbie-
They may have all the QB's out, but with the offense they run, not sure it really matters who is the QB.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2006, 07:34:50 AM
here are my picks:

gc 31 - su 13 - the pride are just too much for the hornets

au 31 - ncwc 22 - the bishops are tough, but the cougars are better

cnu 28 - m'ville 7 - the scots are tough at home, but cnu is focused and won't let the long trip get into their heads

mc 17 - fc 14 - this is the game i am least certain about - the monarch run defense is legit, but it will be severly tested this week and pitts is a beast - what little home-field advantage the monarchs have will be nuetralized by fall break and did i mention pitts is a beast - mc will have to play their best game to date to avoid going 0-3 in conference play
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 14, 2006, 02:28:48 PM
More teams need to have online broadcasts of their games. Growl... >:(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 14, 2006, 02:39:48 PM
OK I can stop holding my breath.  Been holding it all week.

35 - 3  right before haltime.  71 yard run.  65 yard pass.  65 yard run.  Interception by CNU then 49 yard drive.  all in second quarter.  wish barnes would have held ball on pass for the other drive in 1st quarter.  Could be 42 - 3 at half.


1st half ends with a blocked field goal by CNU.   35 - 3

Maryville actually has a pretty well balanced team.  good running and passing, but not quite good enough.  Big plays were story of first half.  CNU no punts.  Maryville probably had the ball a lot longer.

So all of the naysayers can say that we can't sustain a long scoring drive.  (Greensboro guys)  They might still be right but big plays work for me.

This the first non rainy game that we have had all year.  O looks OK today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 14, 2006, 03:17:56 PM
Methodist 24
Ferrum14

2:00 to go in the game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 14, 2006, 03:28:28 PM
I am trying to find an update AU 24  NCWC 20 9:12 in 4th, but that is over 10 minutes ago.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 14, 2006, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 14, 2006, 03:17:56 PM
Methodist 24
Ferrum14

Final
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 14, 2006, 03:31:20 PM
CNU nice job.  That's what a 21 ranked team should be doing on the road.  I can't see them 15-20 after this week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on October 14, 2006, 03:37:20 PM
Final Averett 24 Bishops 20.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 14, 2006, 03:45:56 PM
Quote from: Leatherhelmet on October 14, 2006, 03:37:20 PM
Final Averett 24 Bishops 20.

Wow, so close! Averett is winning very consistently, but they're not showing very much dominance. All of their wins are squeakers. And they're almost never covering my spreads!  :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 14, 2006, 03:49:09 PM
Looks like Guilford is going to pull off the upset 33-21 with 2:53 left against Bridgewater.  Isn't d3football great.

I guess that means Greensboro could take out bridgewater in regulation (just a little joke)

Hold that thought.  33-28 with 2:47 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 14, 2006, 04:23:34 PM
Man,  we almost gave that one away.

Final

CNU 48 - Maryville 31

Someone needs to tell the D that you still have to play after leading by 39.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2006, 04:55:16 PM
the monarchs looked solid vs. fc today - offense still sputtered a bit at times, sands dropped a sure td and larkin missed 2 fg's, but the running game and run defense were working today (aided, no doubt, by the absence of pitts) - ferrum fans, your qb situation will be alright long term though - #10 runs fairly well, but really has a solid arm and gives your offense a threat to pass - mc was down 14-7 at the 1/2 and hill took the first handoff 60 yards to the house to open the 2nd - ferrum never really mounted a drive in the 2nd half - no box, but i'll bet mc held the panthers under 150 on the ground and had over 200 themselves - 3-3 and going to pomoco...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 14, 2006, 05:21:21 PM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 14, 2006, 04:23:34 PM
Man,  we almost gave that one away.

Final

CNU 48 - Maryville 31

Someone needs to tell the D that you still have to play after leading by 39.

Very True though MC won't go away.  That's what happened when GC played MC.  Grant it CNU is a much better team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 14, 2006, 06:54:58 PM
I listened to the game on radio. CNU played great in the first half. Then, even I could tell they lost focus, which is what the coach said postgame. Look out Methodist, CNU will want to put toegther a complete 60 minute game next week.....at POMOCO.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 14, 2006, 07:08:50 PM
Good for that Narch and Papi crowd.  :)

GC-Q........those FR I saw during Brian's last year must be popping a gasket......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2006, 08:16:31 PM
got the box score (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2006%20Stats/mc1014.htm#GAME.TEM) - mc held fc to 144 on the ground, and they rushed for 296...that's right, 296 yards rushing - hill had 187 on his own
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 14, 2006, 09:43:06 PM
worst display of football, I have ever seen.  I had to leave it was 27-10 SU when I left. I am already sick from the CNU game don't need to be any sicker.  I don't care if they go 2-8.  I came back to greensboro early to see this game.  The fans need to see a better game, from the players and the coaches.  I am disgusted to be fan of the lady lions (Narch because that is what they played like today.)

I never complain about coaches, and the calls that were questionable, wouldn't be if they were executed. They were Gut-zy plays and would have been great completions or TD's, if they were executed correctly. (More on those in second)

One thing I disagreed with was defering to the 2nd half.  GC's wins were when they scored first.  Offense needs to score having the ball first might benefit them.

The Gut-zy plays: (You all decide, again they would have been nice completions if executed)

4th and long in GC's side of the field.  Go out to punt the ball execpt we decide to have our punter throw it.  (Defender was grabbing GC player.  Flag was thrown then the refs waved it off.  I think people were looking for PI.  Ball was uncatchable, if anything defensive holding)

4th and 2.  We come out in I-formation.  Throw the ball 40 yards down the field.  Incomplete.  (SU sent people up the middle.  I thought we were going to throw a slant.  I thought we were going to pass the ball.  Just not 40 yards down the field.)

SU won't win a conference game the rest of the year. Good win for them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2006, 09:45:00 PM
su 36 - gc 10...wow, the pride got handled...shocking - can't wait to see the fallout from this loss - gc qb's picked off 3 times tonight, one for a 95 yard pick 6 - su had 40+ minutes of t.o.p.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2006, 09:47:28 PM
su had scored 29 points all season, and scores 36 today...amazing
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 14, 2006, 09:57:15 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 14, 2006, 09:43:06 PMSU won't win a conference game the rest of the year. Good win for them.

dude...i'm not trying to pile on here and i'm not trying to be personal, but when gc gets thumped by cnu last week you guys talk about how cnu isn't a top 25 team, then su hammers the pride and you say they won't win another conference game...you might be right on both accounts, but why do you feel the need to belittle the teams that have just crushed yours?

personally, i'd like to say to all the su fans...i was wrong - i didn't think the hornets had enough fight in them to win another game all year - i think your team showed a ton of heart tonight to make a tough road trip to a place that hasn't been kind to them, historically, and win in convincing and dominating fashion - great win for the hornets!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 14, 2006, 10:06:49 PM
Keys to the Game GC vs SU RECAP

Greensboro

Control the Clock- X- That didn't happen.

Force TO- X- not too sure I don't think they had any.

Have Balanced Offensive Attack- X- Had to pass too much because of the lack of control of the game

SU

Score some points- Yes 36 points

Avoid History- YES- They know they had better teams in the past an lost coming down here. They avoided the past

Hold on to the football- Yes- they were solid tonight

Looks like the keys were on target.

Narch- that comment wasn't to belittle SU.  I didn't want it to sound like that.  I don't think they will win because of who they have left, not because of tonight.

CNU showed today that no lead was safe.  They need to be able to put teams away.  I thought if the game didn't end up as close as it did.  They could have moved up to 7 spots.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 14, 2006, 10:14:28 PM
One thing that disgusts me the most was that freshman were the ones trying to motivate the team on the sideline.  Most of those freshman were starting freshman.  They should take pride in that, and the upperclassmen should be disgusted with themeselves.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on October 14, 2006, 11:40:31 PM
Is CNU back? I think we will really find out this Saturday.  MC has played well the last two weeks, and Mike Hill will test that CNU defense.  The MC qb can run and throw, and he is capable of having a break out game this coming weekend.  I might have to drive up to CNU to catch this game, although my last trip there was an unpleasant 49-0 @$$ whippin.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 14, 2006, 11:53:39 PM
Looks like it was a good win for the Monarchs!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 15, 2006, 02:03:30 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 14, 2006, 09:43:06 PM
worst display of football, I have ever seen.  I had to leave it was 27-10 SU when I left. I am already sick from the CNU game don't need to be any sicker.  I don't care if they go 2-8.  I came back to greensboro early to see this game.  The fans need to see a better game, from the players and the coaches.  I am disgusted to be fan of the lady lions (Narch because that is what they played like today.)

I never complain about coaches, and the calls that were questionable . . . . . . etc.

My dad used to say, "if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all!"
So, I am going to try to restrain myself.

I would agree about the 'worst display' comment, but I've seen a few powder puff games . . . . this ranks close.

I don't think the deferring hurt us that much - our defense held SU on their first possesion, it was just the fumble on the punt return, giving them the ball at the five and SU scored first.

SU's second score was after a blocked punt (special teams killed us) - their first two scores covered a total of 25 yards.

Six (6) turnovers versus zero (0) for SU.

SU just rammed the ball down The Prides throat. [Note: Change The Pride to The Shamed in dictionary] Didn't even act like they were going to throw the ball (4 passes 2 complete for 2 yards) and just beat up on the GC line and linebackers. Beat up!! Thank goodness we have some freshman trying to step up.

OK - losing control - must leave for now . . . .

BTW, SU is such a polished team they only had one penalty all night . . . and PrideGuy - the refs picked up TWO flags that was most definately defensive holding, saying the ball might not have been caught . . . not that it had any real affect on this game.

Anyone know the extent of the injury to Rankins? I certainly hope it wasn't his knee again!

And does anybody know anything about the bandage wrap on the throwing hand of Bacon? That's gotta affect his throwing! IMO

Still think the option would have destroyed SU, but I think I'll pass . . . yeah, that's working . . . especially on 4th downs . . . 

OK - losing control - must leave for now . . . . TTYL





ROLLED & FRIDE



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 15, 2006, 02:10:10 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 14, 2006, 10:14:28 PM
One thing that disgusts me the most was that freshman were the ones trying to motivate the team on the sideline.  Most of those freshman were starting freshman.  They should take pride in that, and the upperclassmen should be disgusted with themeselves.

OK - I'm still a GC fan . . .still rooting and hoping for good things.  :-\

And I refuse to wear a bag over my head - so far.  ::)

I still think GC has the talent to do so much better, but it will come from the freshman and transfers with new attitudes.  ???

We also have to find a way to overcome injuries - leading rusher Herbin, QB Rankin, now freshman defensive standout, Wooten, looks to be hurt. Those things don't help.  :'(

Who knows, maybe Averett will now take GC for granted (like GC did to SU) and GC can sneak up on them. What's the chance that GC upsets Averett?  Possibility? Pipe Dream?  :-[




ROLE PRIDE ! ! !

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 15, 2006, 07:29:50 AM
game story from the fayetteville observer (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=244551)...ignore the photo of hill...kinda looks like a mug-shot :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 15, 2006, 07:54:47 AM
I came in here ready to blow off some more steam, but forgot what I was going to say. Its been a long week/weekend.  My high school team lost two games last week.  GC lost.  Maryland football pulled out a squeaker.  All i have left to keep this weekend from getting any worse is my Ravens beating the Panthers. (That doesn't looked to be easy either.)  This is my favorite time of the year.  In the swing of Football to the start of basketball.

Like we say back in Baltimore,  the Orioles are just there it to help the summer pass until Football season to comes around. We don't count how many games they won, just how many they have left.  ;D

Looks like GC will have another losing football season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CBE on October 15, 2006, 08:11:52 AM
And the Raven's are favored by 3 at home, so it's a toss up in my book Pride.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 15, 2006, 06:54:59 PM
Carolina beat Baltimore....I bet BBallguy can't wait to go to work in the morning and end this weekend.

I was listening to the pregame show for CNU while doing yard work. I was going to rush in the house and post my prediction, which was 34-10 win by CNU.  I was way off......but I noticed that the GC/SU score was 36-10.....and the week before I predicted a GC loss of 26-0 and the final score was 28-0....maybe I'm just good at predicting a GC loss.

Narch - good point about everytime someone breaks out that can of whoopstuff, a GC fan will say something negative about the can holders. That is just untapped fan potential!  :P

Narch - if you come up, let me know. we gotta meet face to face.....a pregame meal (late breakfast or early lunch) is on me. Anyone know how packed Schooners is before a game? It's going to be homecoming weekend. The crowd at POMOCO should be good.

And what dummy at Maryville scheduled the CNU game for homecoming!!

and my old high school beat my daughter's current school on her homecoming....yesssssss!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 15, 2006, 07:08:51 PM
85,
From what I understand, Maryville does not even look to see who is on tap for the Scots when Homecoming is determined. Good game by CNU, now hopefully the Scots will realize what it takes to be in the race for a conference championship. Got to give the Scots credit for never quitting, that in my opinion(sp) is one the traits of a team that is competitive on a high level from season to season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 15, 2006, 07:43:48 PM
'85 - sounds like you had a pretty good weekend...and the vikes didn't lose, either :)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 15, 2006, 07:53:17 PM
Although CNU will win the conference.  I wouldn't mind having Maryville represent USASAC in the playoffs.  That team has showed alot of character this season, and showed they won't give up.

I wore black on Friday the 13th.  I think that was my demise for the weekend. :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 15, 2006, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 15, 2006, 06:54:59 PM
And what dummy at Maryville scheduled the CNU game for homecoming!!

Many schools actually schedule their toughest competition for homecoming, so take it as a compliment rather than slamming them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 15, 2006, 08:08:42 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger (BfB) on October 15, 2006, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 15, 2006, 06:54:59 PM
And what dummy at Maryville scheduled the CNU game for homecoming!!

Many schools actually schedule their toughest competition for homecoming, so take it as a compliment rather than slamming them.

Greensboro scheduled Ferrum for homecoming this year, and they were pounded last year by them :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 15, 2006, 08:18:28 PM
yeah Narch - I almost mentioned that, too!!!

Highlander - I was listening to the game and thinking....damn, don't those guys know when they've been beat? When you see that in a team, that's a trait instilled by coaches. Maryville will be in the thick of things for years to come....I view MC as I did AU last year.....scary good at times, a little more consistency and look out!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 15, 2006, 08:23:01 PM
Many places, Homecoming is scheduled by the alumni office and almost everywhere it's determined independent of the football coach.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 15, 2006, 08:33:29 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 15, 2006, 07:53:17 PM
Although CNU will win the conference.  I wouldn't mind having Maryville represent USASAC in the playoffs.  That team has showed alot of character this season, and showed they won't give up.

I wore black on Friday the 13th.  I think that was my demise for the weekend. :-\

PrideSportbballGuy where or what is the logic in half your post. One min CNU is not the 21st ranked team in the nation and not going to win the conf. The next min CNU is the best team in the conf but you wouldn't mind seeing the 3-4th placed team in the conf in the playoffs because they have showed they never give up in a game. Don't get me wrong I respect Maryvilles program but they are not doing anything that any other well coached team doesn't do every Sat. And thats NEVER GIVE UP DURING A GAME.F

Anyways good win for the Caps on Sat.

Not going out on a limb but I'm putting it out there Rob Rod for DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR AGAIN. That kid always finds a way to make a play for his team in clutch moments.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 15, 2006, 08:39:53 PM
Finest,

I've sensed that other teams are staying far away from RobRod. He doesn't seem to be in the middle of things as much. I think other teams have sent WR out wide to remove him from the play. I haven't seen game films. It just seems that way from the few games I've watched and from the games on radio. Justin Long seems to be the guy all over the place. Even with some mental lapses in play this past weekend I'd have to say he would get my vote for D POTY.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 15, 2006, 08:43:24 PM
Hasa,

Ever since the first time I saw GC take the field, I sensed they wouldn't be competitive with CNU. The first indication I had was that they came out of the locker room for pregame warmups and their jerseys were hanging out of their pants already. I knew we had them beat......Any coach with even ONE OUNCE of discipline wouldn't allow that. It spreads to how they play as well....aren't they the most penalized team in the league?

Just an observation....when I really think about it, I feel bad for the kids....it's not what they signed up for.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 15, 2006, 09:00:46 PM
Thanks Pat- From what I understand that is how it works at most schools. I just was not able to express it like you did. Guess that comes from your time as a SID.
I hope that Maryville will continue to close the gap that is the difference from them becoming one of the elite in this conference ( Like CNU, Methodist, Ferrum, and Averett) I believe from this season Maryville and NCW are at that point.

P.S. Even though our conferences out of conf. records might not show it, I believe that this is a very competitive conf. in the south region.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 15, 2006, 09:08:20 PM
what I should have said is a team LIKE Maryville.  I think in this conference maryville is the only team to have that fight in them (To be down 42-3 and comeback like that. ) Something a USASAC team hasn't had in the playoffs.

CNU has been my conference favorite since week 3.

Competitive? It was 7-0 CNU at the end of the first half on a blocked punt recovered in the endzone for a TD.  If anything it was the second half.  GC has the tendency not to show up in the second half mostly the 3rd quarter.  (I think that has been the problem since the incepetion of football at GC.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 15, 2006, 09:13:19 PM
85 the guy we call Jennifer would be very deserving of the award and is definitely a hat bringing fool. But like you said teams go away from Rob and when they are dumb enough to test him in the clutch. He makes them remember why they threw or ran away from him the whole game.

Really the CNU D and defensive coaches should be DPOY. 1yr they had to replace the dline, the year after that 3 stud lbs, and now the Db's are vets and star players on that side of the ball.

As someone who saw guys highly frustrated with themselves because they were scout team for a while. Its good to see players like Harvey Harper, Matt Downey, and numerous others finally make a name for themselves in CNU's defensive history. Because I know a lot of teams where very happy to see the lbs from last year graduate only to get another punishing year of Captain D. So I tip my cap to Legg and his staff.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 15, 2006, 09:26:55 PM
I think the tsunami had a lot to do with that 7-0 score :o :o ;D. Like we have said before we have never played a close game with GC and it doesn't look like the gap is closer either.

And as far as the GC coaching staff goes CNU85 has them figured out down to the tee. I remember their players playing, laughing, joking around, and worst of all the coach had his team take team photos before our first contest in 01. Doesn't really sound like a very classy program to me but that 35-10 drubbing really gave us something to laugh about. ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 15, 2006, 09:48:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 15, 2006, 08:43:24 PM
Hasa,

Ever since the first time I saw GC take the field, I sensed they wouldn't be competitive with CNU. The first indication I had was that they came out of the locker room for pregame warmups and their jerseys were hanging out of their pants already. I knew we had them beat......Any coach with even ONE OUNCE of discipline wouldn't allow that. It spreads to how they play as well....aren't they the most penalized team in the league?

Just an observation....when I really think about it, I feel bad for the kids....it's not what they signed up for.
You've got a good point.  The Pride certainly got a lot of penalites against Guilford.  We should have put them away when it was 30-16, but let them get back in the game to force OT.  Maybe they do so well against Guilford because it is a true intracity rivalry game and they really get up for it.   The head coach does set the tone for the way a team performs - before, during and after - they hit the field.  Now in their 10th season of football, Greensboro seemed to peak a few years ago and have regressed a bit.  Part of it, to be sure, is that almost everyone else in the USASAC has improved, but after a while you've got to make fundamental changes if you want to stay competitive.  I don't know Coach Mitchell, but I do know the grumbling has begun. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 15, 2006, 09:53:29 PM
What does the USASAC think about McMurry having to drop the nickname.  I know SI did a poll of what Native Americans thought about teams having Indian names/mascots.  They said they really didn't care.  I wish I could find that article, but the d3sports coverage in SI is horrible  ;D ;).  (I also felt SI talked alot about nothing so dropped them.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 15, 2006, 10:53:23 PM
yup...it was 7-0 at half. And the way the weather was, even Coack K said he felt at the time that the 7 was all that was needed to win the game. I was there!! It rained over 10 inches that day (that's equivalent to 90 inches of snow, if you want to put ranifall in perspective). That rain is what caused the city of Franklin, VA to have a 500 year flood (2nd one in the past few years - hope it's not a trend). The rain was coming down sideways....40+ mph winds....when a player was walking he caused a splash on the field.....behind both benches were lakes at least 2 ft deep.......

to say, yep we were competitivein the first half is a total mis-statement. My 11 grandmothers would have had the same effect in that first half....there were 53 total yards in the first half...CNU had 19.

The weather eased up, into something that you could work with, at halftime. When the third quarter started, so did CNU.

I was drenched...and it was a blast!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 16, 2006, 08:49:37 AM
usasac statistical spotlight:

su came into the gc game with the worst rushing offense in the league at 75 ypg and 1.9 ypc, but rushed for 228 and 3.5

su came into the gc game with the worst rushing defense in the league, giving up over 200 ypg and 4.7 ypc, but gave up only 41 yards on 2.9 ypc

gc did have a bright spot defensively, if you can call it that...brick crowder got 25 tackles with 15 solo's

box score (http://www.gborocollege.edu/athletics/sports/FOOTBALL/2006/gc1014.htm#GAME.TEM)

on to this week's big game...

the mc vs. cnu game is looking like it could be a good one, on paper (or more accurately, on the internet...i don't really print out the stat sheets :))

cnu is the #1 scoring defense in the conference (15.5 ppg), but the monarchs are just behind at 16.5 ppg - mc is the #1 defense in the conference against the run (80.7 ypg allowed) and just shut down the fc run game, while cnu is #3 against the run at 110.2 ypg allowed - cnu has more balance offensively, averaging 142 ypg in the air and 110 ypg on the ground, while the monarchs are a run-heavy offense right now, averaging 94 ypg in the air and 203 ypg on the ground - the game will also feature the two best backs in the league, in my opinion (with all due respect to kyle wilson, who i think is a fine back...just not as good as hill or hilliard) - mike hill has 719 yards and 10 td's on the season and is coming off a 187 yard performance, while roland hilliard has 574 yards and 8 td's and is coming off a 117 yard, 2 td performance (on just 11 carries) - the x factor is the home field advantage and the carry-over from last year - i know the monarchs realize now that they can compete with cnu (i'm not sure that was the case before last year)...does that carry over to pomoco???...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 16, 2006, 11:15:35 AM
interesting stuff, narch.

I think CNU has a few things to either prove or accomplish this week......the first thing is to make up for last year's game and get that taste out of their mouths. the second is to prove that they can stay focused for 60 minutes. Not that they haven't done that this year.....but they were slack for 16-17 minutes on Saturday.

I'll post my prediction shortly before game time....or if you come up for the game I'll tell you personally.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 16, 2006, 12:22:03 PM
Miami will have 13th starters out against Duke from what I heard.  I wonder what the line will be on that game staurday.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 16, 2006, 12:27:49 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 16, 2006, 12:22:03 PM
Miami will have 13th starters out against Duke from what I heard.  I wonder what the line will be on that game staurday.  ;D ;)
I don't know what the betting line will be, but I bet the Hurricanes still win.  Duke lost to Richmond 13-0 and a lot of people thought that was their only chance to win in 2006.  There's still the Carolina game, however, which may also become known as "Bunting's Last Stand."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wrighthall220 on October 16, 2006, 12:44:03 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 16, 2006, 12:27:49 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 16, 2006, 12:22:03 PM
Miami will have 13th starters out against Duke from what I heard.  I wonder what the line will be on that game staurday.  ;D ;)
I don't know what the betting line will be, but I bet the Hurricanes still win.  Duke lost to Richmond 13-0 and a lot of people thought that was their only chance to win in 2006.  There's still the Carolina game, however, which may also become known as "Bunting's Last Stand."

Duke was able to put up some points on FSU and Miami isn't that much better than FSU.. I'm glad to see 13 players out for next week.. it should have been every player that was on the field during the fight however.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 16, 2006, 02:08:52 PM
Congratulations to the Hornets with the win over GC Saturday. That place has been a house of horrors for SU in the past years. As usual the Defense played great and the offense finally woke up this season. Great job to the special teams as well for a great game. Heres hoping the Hornets can keep this momentum and get a win this Saturday against NCW as its home coming.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 16, 2006, 03:07:53 PM
I think the Monarchs are going to have to get the run game going early to open up some big plays with the play action game.  I think if we can do that and get a big play or two with the special teams I think we have a chance to pull off the upset.  It's gonna be a tough task though to go into POMOCO and come out with a victory.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 16, 2006, 05:09:40 PM
BBallguy - even with 13 players out.....it's Duke...I bet the spread will still be 20+
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 16, 2006, 05:12:05 PM
I saw the video of the FIU Miami game at lunch today for the first time. I hope the penalty is more than a 1 gaem suspension. That #19 who was stomping on someone's head should lose his scholarship.

and the guy hitting people by swinging his helmet should be gone too. If I was the coach......I'd be minus several players first thing in the morning. The Alumni can scream all they want....I wouldn't have it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 16, 2006, 05:38:13 PM
Kind of reminded me of the 1999 game between MC and Chowan when a brawl broke out after the game, although that wasn't even close to the obsurd things I saw going on in the Miami/FIU game.  I wouldn't be surprised to see some criminal action taken or at least threatened!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 16, 2006, 05:57:52 PM
The whole thing is bad...the programs and coaches should be smacked HARD! It's back to that lack of discipline issue.......I guess I'm big on it...my dad and step dad were military sgts. I wasn't allowed to get caught doing something I wasn't supposed to.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 16, 2006, 06:40:24 PM
Although I do agree it has something to do with discipline, I think more of getting caught up in the moment.  Baseball fights come to mind, either it is roid rage or worrying about contracts and making money. I think getting caught up in the moment.  (Then players come back the next inning hit the batter.)  Some people believe hitting a good hitter then wasting pitches to pitch around.  Teams have had fights in the middle of the year and still won world series. 

I think a bit of frustration with Miami plays a big part.  They are/were expected to do good things this year, and it hasn't happen.

Hockey fights are outrageous.  I don't see the refs trying to break them up quickly at all.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bill McCabe on October 16, 2006, 06:45:14 PM
This was the 3rd fight in their last 7 games for Miami.  That is deplorable.  I hope they are all suspended for the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 16, 2006, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 16, 2006, 06:40:24 PM
Baseball fights come to mind, either it is roid rage or worrying about contracts and making money. I think getting caught up in the moment.  (Then players come back the next inning hit the batter.)  Some people believe hitting a good hitter then wasting pitches to pitch around.  Teams have had fights in the middle of the year and still won world series. 

Hockey fights are outrageous.  I don't see the refs trying to break them up quickly at all.

prideguy - there is no comparison with the fiu/um brawl and a baseball fight or a hockey fight

it's rare when a baseball fight becomes more than a glorified wrestling match and those fights are almost pre-ordained and orchestrated...both teams know when it's coming - the rare exception (and a better comparison) would be a guy like juan marichal or delmon young weilding a bat in a fight, but those things happen very infrequently

hockey fights, similarly, are somewhat pre-ordained and the only time a ref stops those fights is when it goes to the ground or when a 3rd player gets involved

it doesn't make it right that these sports have historically had fighting as part of their culture (especially hockey), but it does make it very different and a poor analogy

one of the beautiful things about football is that, historically, the violence has been limited to the field of play and within the parameters of the game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 16, 2006, 09:50:02 PM
I think the lack of fights in fb games is a good statement to how well football officials keep control of most football games.  Maybe it's the rules or the enforcement of the rules but with a game that has that much violence to have that few fights.  Think of how many fights break out in practice vs how many break out in games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: patcummings on October 16, 2006, 10:07:55 PM
A great story about the Shenandoah/Greensboro game in this week's Around the Region column coming out later...for those who hadn't heard about it - check it out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 16, 2006, 11:05:45 PM
Narch-I wasn't trying to make a direct comparison, more of an indirect.  I heard an NFL Lineman or Linebacker say at one time and I paraphrase....You know the good thing about football its a game where you get to assault someone on sunday and not get arrested for it on monday.

Football is a controlled violent sport. Baseball on the other hand when a fight breaks out there are no pads and helmets to provide a little bit of protection.  (The spikes in baseball are purely metal spikes) Plus Bats and a harder ball are used. (Although rarely used)  Not to mention helmets too. To say you can't compare a fight between baseball and football is saying a fight isn't a fight.

You see pushing and shoving after many plays in football.  It comes down to self-control to whether or not a player starts a fight on the field. Plus there are 100's (a little extreme) of people on the sidelines to help break up a fight. Not like baseball.

I would rather be stuck in the middle of a football fight then a baseball fight.

I wouldn't say most baseball fights are pre-ordained, sometimes all it takes is a single pitch or a broken bat.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 17, 2006, 01:49:49 AM
What I don't understand is not being brought to court over something clearly illegal not just bad sportmanship.  All fights are not with in the realm of the game.  If they were then play would continue around them.  These criminals should be tried in court for their actions.  end of story.  Heat of battle is BS.  People get upset driving in traffic, does that make violence OK.  They should be tried and sentenced.  I am amazed that any school would want an athlete representing it in that manner.  hey they were young and naive and excited and what ever.  that is no excuse.  Tell that to a girl that gets hit by a boyfriend or husband when things get heated. 

I am sick of our society treating this stuff differently b/c of their popular status as whatever.

Kind of like how the Allstar monsters on these boards gang up and smash people with honest opinions that do not agree with them.  Somebody says something interesting and they pop up saying where are your papers. ;) ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 17, 2006, 02:03:46 AM

Just thought I'd share my misery with everyone . . . .  :'(

Not only did The Pride lose a game they should have won . . . .  :'(

But my fantasy league team was ahead by 10 points before Monday Night Football and my opponent had WR Berriman from Chicago left . . . . :-\

And . . . I had QB Grossman from Chicago (top rated QB) . . . if anything ever was a sure thing!! Berriman couldn't outscore Grossman since he's the receiver and Grossman is the QB. Talk about counting my chickens!  ::)

Grossman had three interceptions, two fumbles and no TDs.  His score was -8.8  !!!  :'(

Well, at least the Panthers won . . . sorry, Prideguy . . . .  :P




ROLL PANTHERS ! ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2006, 03:07:27 AM
Quote from: CNULifer on October 17, 2006, 01:49:49 AM
Kind of like how the Allstar monsters on these boards gang up and smash people with honest opinions that do not agree with them.  Somebody says something interesting and they pop up saying where are your papers. ;) ;D

You're really turning into kind of a crybaby over this, you know that?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 17, 2006, 09:06:45 AM
Quote from: narch on October 16, 2006, 09:45:47 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 16, 2006, 06:40:24 PM
Baseball fights come to mind, either it is roid rage or worrying about contracts and making money. I think getting caught up in the moment.  (Then players come back the next inning hit the batter.)  Some people believe hitting a good hitter then wasting pitches to pitch around.  Teams have had fights in the middle of the year and still won world series. 



it's rare when a baseball fight becomes more than a glorified wrestling match and those fights are almost pre-ordained and orchestrated...both teams know when it's coming - the rare exception (and a better comparison) would be a guy like juan marichal or delmon young weilding a bat in a fight, but those things happen very infrequently.

Or the night that Robin Ventura charged Nolan Ryan on the mound and Ryan just let him have it.   :D :D :D :D :D

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4964981
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on October 17, 2006, 09:07:38 AM
CNU vs MC- CNU will win this one.......if they throw the ball. They will not gain alot of yards on the ground. I do not think however they will win by the spread, but they will win.

AU vs GC- I see AU winning this one by 17 points. They have played tough the past few weeks, and this week i think Kyle wilson will be the factor here. With Parsons, Hughley, and wilson it will be a win for the cougars. GC has never been one to stop the running game, and that showed saturday with brandon lacey and paul diggs. Both of whom had 2 touchdowns a piece in the win saturday.

SU vs NCWC- SU will cover this spread of 13. I think they have some momentum built up now and as mentioned in the above paragraph, the two running backs that SU has look very dangerous. They chose to have a breakout game saturday i guess, now just hope for their sake they turn it on again saturday at home.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 17, 2006, 09:10:36 AM
here's a great article on mc lb daryl lawrence (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=244404), who had an outstanding game on saturday with 10 tackles...i meant to post it on friday, but it's better late than never :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on October 17, 2006, 10:26:19 AM
The Monarchs have had some good luck with White Oak guys, I am happy for Daryl. Someone bring that boy some cookies.
Title: Averett / Greensboro
Post by: Eh-You on October 17, 2006, 10:55:10 AM
I am honestly more concerned about this weekend than any other this year for a few reasons:
1. Gboro is obviously done, so the only way they are successful is if they ruin some else's season
2. They lost to SU which I am afraid may mean that AU overlooks them. Averett won't overlook SU b/c of their history, certainly won't overlook CNU and the Maryville game will be for either school record wins or pool C hopes.
3. They have really good athletes but no discipline, a recipe for terrible records and a few underdog wins
4. Looks like rain could be a factor - Averett's field has seen its share of swamppy mess as the Methodist guys can tell you!

On the bright side  - it really doesn't matter - even if AU loses it will still come down to the CNU game for the pool A bid (unless they were to drop another one) and I don't think Pool C is realistic with 3 losses.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 17, 2006, 10:57:55 AM
FYI-Looked this up on the internet:

Miami vs Duke(+17.5) I have seen +18 and Off

If Miami has no discpline then I would expect someone from the team to take a stab at vegas.  ;) ;D

Eh-you.  As much as I dislike AU.  I want the USASAC to have two teams in post season play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on October 17, 2006, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 17, 2006, 10:57:55 AM
Eh-you.  As much as I dislike AU.  I want the USASAC to have two teams in post season play.

That still doesn't change our friendly "wager" on this game ;) - you haven't forgotten I hope!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 17, 2006, 11:19:35 AM
Newbie,

I was ahead in my fantasy league match up as well.  The other guy had a Chicago WR and their Defense. He needed one score from either to win.....he got 2 from the D.........talk about a sucky night!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 17, 2006, 11:27:39 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 17, 2006, 11:19:35 AM
Newbie,

I was ahead in my fantasy league match up as well.  The other guy had a Chicago WR and their Defense. He needed one score from either to win.....he got 2 from the D.........talk about a sucky night!!
Not sure if your fantasy league rules are the same as mine, but I got three scores from the Chicago Defense.  The 82-yard punt return for a TD also counts as a defensive score in most leagues the same as the two fumble recoveries for scores.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 17, 2006, 11:31:40 AM
our league is different than a lot. It was formed in 1980 and still has 4 of the original guys in it. We only get points when a player (or defense) scores. Special teams play does not count.....it's fun stuff.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 17, 2006, 11:48:12 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 17, 2006, 11:31:40 AM
our league is different than a lot. It was formed in 1980 and still has 4 of the original guys in it. We only get points when a player (or defense) scores. Special teams play does not count.....it's fun stuff.
Some of the guys in my league take it much more seriously than I do, but I have fun with it.  Just for comparison's sake, I got 29 points from the Bears D last night.  It sure makes watching all the games a lot more interesting!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 17, 2006, 02:12:31 PM
rex grossman sucks...

if you can't tell, he is on my fantasy roster, as well :) - i was feeling so confident in him having a breakout year that i traded away matt hasselbeck...not sure that was such a smart thing now, but you've got to play some hunches in our league...it's uber-competetive - i'm in serious danger of missing the playoffs for the first time in my 6 year history of fantasy football, and that's not a fun feeling...i just can't seem to catch a break this season - when my boys play well, i'm playing someone who has a great week...when my boys play poorly, i'm playing someone who has a better week - i think i'm gonna fire the gm and coach :)

i actually thought about starting up a usasac fantasy league a few years ago using just usasac players, but i figured that might be too small a pool of players to really make it fun
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 17, 2006, 02:16:01 PM
Quote from: narch on October 17, 2006, 02:12:31 PM
rex grossman sucks...

if you can't tell, he is on my fantasy roster, as well :) - i was feeling so confident in him having a breakout year that i traded away matt hasselbeck...not sure that was such a smart thing now, but you've got to play some hunches in our league...it's uber-competetive - i'm in serious danger of missing the playoffs for the first time in my 6 year history of fantasy football, and that's not a fun feeling...i just can't seem to catch a break this season - when my boys play well, i'm playing someone who has a great week...when my boys play poorly, i'm playing someone who has a better week - i think i'm gonna fire the gm and coach :)

i actually thought about starting up a usasac fantasy league a few years ago using just usasac players, but i figured that might be too small a pool of players to really make it fun
Well, Grossman certainly had an "off" night last night.  I'm still amazed that Chicago won that game or, if you want to flip it around, that Arizona lost.  Rackers is not having the year he had last year.  He probably went into hiding last night.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on October 17, 2006, 02:27:11 PM
Eh-You,

Is there room for another Averett fan on this board? 

The Cougars were fortunate to come away with a win last Saturday at NCWC.  I hope to see a more focused AU team on saturday.  This is the first common opponent for AU and CNU.  I am anxious to see how we stack up.

Eh-You...are you coming to the game on Saturday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 17, 2006, 03:10:40 PM
Here is another Averett fan. I am waiting for them to play a complete game. They seem to play a quarter then go flat for 2 then find themselves behind
the 8 ball and have to gear it up in the last quarter to win. They are a
better team than they have been looking the past two weeks.

Hopefully they will put it all together the next two weeks and get geared up for CNU.

"GO COUGARS"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 17, 2006, 03:21:40 PM
Welcome AU fans...please beware of the occasional obnoxious GC or CNU fan...most of us are ok, most of the time. If you need a stat, ask Narch for an analysis.

I'm glad the CNU game aginst AU is at POMOCO.....can't wait for that one...but first I have to go watch the Captains make Narch cry!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 17, 2006, 03:55:06 PM
CNU85

Thanks for the warning and information.

I wish we were playing CNU at Danville this year, before my son elected to play for Averett, I attented several games at CNU (from Suffolk) and I know you guys can draw 3000 easy, so the noise level alone will give you 7 points. Hope  both can come in undefeated in the conference, that could draw a standing room only crowd. I know Averett has several players
from both sides of the water and with family and friends they should have
good attendance as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 17, 2006, 03:57:38 PM
The talk of fantasy sports.  I normally finish one or two every year, but then I am like Marty Schottenheimer, and fall apart in the playoffs. (Thats for every fantasy sport.)   I am not even doing it this year because I got frustrated from last year.  It was the championship game and I was playing a Bengals fan naturally he had just about every Bengal on his team.  It was the same time when they played the Colts and there was something like 80 points scored in that game.  

You give me a D1 football pick'em contest i will take anyone out on this board  ;).  (Currently on the 89th precentile on yahoo.)  If only I could pick it up here on the USASAC pick'em
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 17, 2006, 04:11:35 PM
Am I the only American Male who doesn't play fantasy football?  If I'm having a fantasy it's sure not about football   ;)

Narch, did you just use uber in a sentence...what's the world coming to!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 17, 2006, 04:26:23 PM

Papi - This is my first year ever playing fantasy football and I've been in football for over 40 years. I always thought it was for wannabees and hasbeens.  ::)  I guess I can qualify for at least one of those.  ;D

My  youngest son talked me into starting a team with him, so it has been kind of fun . . .at least until last night. I know we're starting Leftowich in place of Grossman next week.  >:(


I certainly hope Averett takes The Pride lightly . . but I'm not sure how much that will help.  At least we don't have Grossman! (wish we had his defense!!!) :-\



ROLL PRIDE ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 17, 2006, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 17, 2006, 04:11:35 PM
Am I the only American Male who doesn't play fantasy football?  If I'm having a fantasy it's sure not about football   ;)

Narch, did you just use uber in a sentence...what's the world coming to!
Well, until now, I only thought he was, but now I know - narch is simply ubercool!  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 17, 2006, 05:58:52 PM
Brick Crowder for GC got the Rookie of the Week by having 25 Tackles.  I think that is deserving more then just the rookie of the week. 
Title: YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Eh-You on October 17, 2006, 06:01:21 PM
All right folks - here come the Cougar fans. Nice to see the two of you posting. OF COURSE I'll be at the game Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 17, 2006, 09:32:35 PM
Haven't missed one since the beginning of last year....

Eh-You - are you a parent or loyal fan?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on October 18, 2006, 09:14:33 AM
This saturday's matchup between CNU and MC is going to be a big one. MC has to defend the pass against a quarterback who is ripe for the picking. He is not very accurate 66-131 attempts is not that good. I was mistaken when i chose CNU to win this game, i think MC can pull this one out. Thats what i get for letting my mouth overload my butt i guess...lol. I should have looked at the stats before i made my prediction. The QB has 8 interceptions, and only 5 passing. Rushing they are pretty good at, but so was ferrum. Noone can run the ball the way ferrum does, and MC shut them down. for a team that averages 370 a game, MC only allowed 144 all game last saturday. Do i think CNU has enough strength to run on them, no. Their offensive line does not look as good as it has in the past. they have given up 17 sacks this year, and you know what that means. If CNU tries to count for the d-line of methodist which is pretty damn good in my opinion with northern, merrit, and hayden. then the linebackers will have a huge day. Especially daryl lawrence and phillip burlingame. This defense is great and will hole cnu this saturday.

The monarchs offense will need to turn it up a notch. The o-line has looked damn good blocking for mike hill, matthews, and parks. Its time to turn it up. It will be a big load for the freshman QB to handle with 5,000 fans screaming and making noise, but he looks pretty composed and will do fine i think. last time we went to pomoco we lost a big one 49-0. But what will stick in my mind forever is the fact that when they were up 49-0, they decide to run a punt fake on us just to rub it in. CNU that was a mistake, and im sure it is still in those sr's minds right now. They are hungry and ready for contact and ready to take down the top team in the conference.

Lets go boys. Get it done.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on October 18, 2006, 09:29:39 AM
Eh-You,

Il'l be there too.  Haven't missed a home game in a couple of years.  The GC match-up is always a good one in any sport.  Maybe we'll run into each other in the tailgate area prior to kickoff.

GO COUGARS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 18, 2006, 03:53:30 PM
Here are the game notes for the SU/NCW game. http://www.su.edu/athletics/fb/fbgamenotes06.pdf

GO SU! Lets get that home coming win!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 18, 2006, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: MCol51 on October 18, 2006, 09:14:33 AM
... the d-line of methodist which is pretty damn good... This defense is great...

The o-line has looked damn good...

Couldn't help it.....lotsa "damn goods" in there.....too many "damn goods" for a 3-3 team and 1-2 in the conference. But some very interesting points on the stats....If I get a chance I'll look at some of the details and come up with a different, yet biased, opinion.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 18, 2006, 04:31:04 PM
Ok did some analysis.... not much to say really other than CNU finds ways to win most of the games...at home....on the road.....in Tropical Storms, N'Easters, Nice weather, at night, day games, ranked opponents.....with D, with O, passing or rushing....win in overtime or with a shutout.......whatever it takes.....

Total Info - passing 66-131-8 854yds. Rushing 231-661.

In clear weather 36-65-3 510yds     95-420 (4.4 yds avg.)
Conference - 24-49-5 295 yds   113-515 (4.6 yds avg)
unranked opponents - 37-75-6 468 yds       164-747 (4.6 yds avg)

Against ranked opponents they have a negative rushing yard total.....but managed to put up 386 yds passing in those 2 games. Have 2 games with over 200 yards rushing, 3 games with over 150 yds passing. 4 of the INTs came in tropical monsoons.

2 games had over 150 yds passing AND over 200 yds rushing.

Has held 1/2 of their opponents to less than 170 total yards. Has outscored conference foes 93-34.

just useless stats to ponder...not really sure what it means but it got my mind off of work for a few minutes.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 18, 2006, 04:56:52 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 18, 2006, 04:31:04 PM
Ok did some analysis.... not much to say really other than CNU finds ways to win most of the games...at home....on the road.....in Tropical Storms, N'Easters, Nice weather, at night, day games, ranked opponents.....with D, with O, passing or rushing....win in overtime or with a shutout.......whatever it takes.....

Total Info - passing 66-131-8 854yds. Rushing 231-661.

In clear weather 36-65-3 510yds     95-420 (4.4 yds avg.)
Conference - 24-49-5 295 yds   113-515 (4.6 yds avg)
unranked opponents - 37-75-6 468 yds       164-747 (4.6 yds avg)

Against ranked opponents they have a negative rushing yard total.....but managed to put up 386 yds passing in those 2 games. Have 2 games with over 200 yards rushing, 3 games with over 150 yds passing. 4 of the INTs came in tropical monsoons.

2 games had over 150 yds passing AND over 200 yds rushing.

Has held 1/2 of their opponents to less than 170 total yards. Has outscored conference foes 93-34.

just useless stats to ponder...not really sure what it means but it got my mind off of work for a few minutes.




WOW! Are you sure you are not "Eh...just call me Kid" posting under CNU85's profile name? :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 18, 2006, 05:06:22 PM
maybe
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 18, 2006, 05:15:47 PM
85 is good..........a little too good ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 18, 2006, 05:16:42 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 18, 2006, 04:31:04 PM
Ok did some analysis....

'85 - didn't know you had it in you :)

i think this will be a much better game than most of the pundits...you know, the guys on the south region fans poll who are already talking about how the cnu/au game will decide the usasac as though the monarchs are a given - winning in pomoco will be tough, but sooner or later the monarchs will break through - statistically speaking, i think the monarchs match up pretty well with the captains (although they haven't played the caliber opponent that cnu has played, and i don't think there are any common opponents) - i think this will be a relatively low scoring game...maybe 21-17 or 17-10...both defenses are pretty solid, although the monarchs can clearly be exploited through the air, and i think hilliard is the best rb that mc will face this year...thanks for the analysis...i'm going to expect that from you every week :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 18, 2006, 06:05:31 PM
85--That was some damn good analysis!!!   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 18, 2006, 06:39:35 PM
Interesting stuff on Sportscenter.  Lets not foget Miami has had a history of discipline problems.  That time frame of 4 National Championships in 9 years. (SI covered a story why Miami should drop football)  Maybe its hard for teams to break that barrier.

Flordia International took a harder stand on the players then Miami did.  FIU lost some players for the year.  I think it has a lot to do with MONEY.  

President of Miami said that this is the new Miami not the old.  I disagree and so does every other sports reporter on Sportscenter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 18, 2006, 08:13:18 PM
thank you gentlemen.....not bad stuff for a few minutes work......but then again.....analysis is my roots...it was actually fun to pull out a scrap piece of paper and a calculator and figure stuff out. I know, I coulda used a computer....but I can remember using punch cards in computer science class......

dang....i'm old!!!

Narch - call me a pundit!!! or a die hard..or blind.....or (as my son would say) ignant! but I think CNU will be ok against MC...and that's all I'm saying...I don't need you printing the stuff out and running down to campus!!   :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 18, 2006, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 18, 2006, 06:05:31 PM
85--That was some damn good analysis!!!   ;D

and that was one damn good comment!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 18, 2006, 08:15:24 PM
hey...i wanna see how good I am at predicted Greensboro losses...i'll post it here soon...gotta go look at stuff....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 18, 2006, 08:22:57 PM
ok...research time is over...actually i have to go pick up my daughter...can't wait til May...when she can drive her damnself!!  ;D


Sunny 65 for Saturday....at Averett.........

AU beats GC -- 42-0

Where's my buddy Gullett??????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 18, 2006, 08:30:09 PM
If you feel they will beat us then fine, but they won't be shutout.  AU is horrible against the pass.  Last year's game was a 1 point game.  AU has played every conference game close this year.  The series has been a pretty good series.  CNU85.  I tell you what, I will take the points and +42 you are given GC. It will be a good game saturday.


I haven't seen Gullet in person in over a week either.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 09:51:30 AM
I only gave it 7 minutes of thought....we'll see what happens.
Title: Stop avoiding the question!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Eh-You on October 19, 2006, 11:31:05 AM
BBall guy - why are you avoiding the questions about our silence wager? You haven't forgotten the terms or planning on backing out R U?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 19, 2006, 12:03:42 PM
My prediction for the CNU/MC game is...it will either be a close game or a blowout and the team that scores the most points will probably come out with the "W"   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 12:17:18 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 19, 2006, 12:03:42 PM
My prediction for the CNU/MC game is...it will either be a close game or a blowout and the team that scores the most points will probably come out with the "W"   ;D

I hope they don't let you shoot with real bullets!!!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 19, 2006, 01:12:39 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 12:17:18 PM
I hope they don't let you shoot with real bullets!!!  ;D

i've seen pictures of papi with a big, nasty looking gun...let me tell you, that's a scary sight, especially when you think about how bad his aim was with a football :)

in all seriousness, though, i couldn't do what you do papi - the possibility of some drunk or freak (or drunk freak) losing it would scare the hell out of me...you're the man!

gullet...are you out there?  you've only made one appearance in the last week or so...everything allright, bud?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 19, 2006, 01:32:29 PM
The drunks I don't mind (them's my peoples  ;) ) but the freaks are a whole different ballgame.

85-I'm just preparing for my political career!  I practicing my ability to answer a question without ever stating anything that everybody doesn't already know.

Narch, come on, give me a break...I just liked to spread the ball around the field, you know, get everyone involved...WR's, TE's, RB's ...  LB's, DB's  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on October 19, 2006, 01:33:29 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 18, 2006, 08:30:09 PM
If you feel they will beat us then fine, but they won't be shutout.  AU is horrible against the pass.  Last year's game was a 1 point game.  AU has played every conference game close this year.  The series has been a pretty good series.  CNU85.  I tell you what, I will take the points and +42 you are given GC. It will be a good game saturday.


I haven't seen Gullet in person in over a week either.

BBall guy its true AU pass defense is suspect, its not like they had to play two top ten teams thats passed for close to 600 combined or a team that threw the ball 70 out of 80 plays, hopefully we can learn how to play pass defense from a team who boast holding the powerhouse Southern VA team to only 84 yards passing and a division II team to 67 (Mars Hill did run for 500 though didn't they). I know we're all biased on these boards but I hope we can all agree that the Cougs have a better secondary than the stats show, I mean they did expose Vogelbach in the second half of Guilford game for the Pride to feed off of  the next week.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 01:44:25 PM
I'm preparing for my political career too, Papi......I like this line from Robin Williams' new movie..


"I did not have sex with that woman. I wanted to."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 01:45:37 PM
Papi...what is it exactly that you do for the USCG?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 19, 2006, 01:53:45 PM
Eh-you- Yeah I am in the wager still.  I have a few questions though.  I can't post on any board, right?  Or just this one.  I have to put my picks in for the pick'em.  If GC loses WCLegacy, I will have to e-mail them to you.

Showstoppa- I still think GC pass defense is best in the conference.  (Although that really doesn't matter in this conference where most teams are balanced or run heavy.)  They have held every team in conference play below thier season average.  Plus Guilford.  Not too sure about the other two games.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 19, 2006, 02:13:16 PM
I'm a coxswain (captain) of a 25' Homeland Security Response Boat (The orange ones with the aluminum cabins w/ big engines).  I do mostly Homeland Security/LE stuff...boarding container ships, investigating suspicious vessels and such.  Every once in a while I get involved in a Search and Rescue case but I'm mostly a LE Dog now so yeah they give me big guns and every once in a while they give me some real bullets  ;) .  I was in the reserves while playing at MC and boy did it suck to have to drive home after a game, change from one uniform into another and finish my drill weekend out.  One day I'm gonna get Narch out on the water and teach him how to get a 3 ton boat airborne!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 19, 2006, 02:17:19 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 19, 2006, 01:53:45 PM
Eh-you- Yeah I am in the wager still.  I have a few questions though.  I can't post on any board, right?  Or just this one.  I have to put my picks in for the pick'em.  If GC loses WCLegacy, I will have to e-mail them to you.

Well, since I wouldn't want to do anything to interupt the stakes of this friendly feud, you can certainly email your pick-ems to me. I don't mind in the least. My email is on my profile.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 02:28:10 PM
sounds like a blast. I cross the water between Norfolk and Newport News twice a day...Sometimes I see those fast boats.

Where do you patrol? Or is that a DHS secret?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 02:49:42 PM
Some more interesting, yet useless, stats. This time it's on Greensboro's Defense. Bballguy mentioned he felt that they had the best pass defense in the conference.

Only 1 team, guilford, has passed for more than 200 yards. Only one other, Maryville, has passed for more than 100 yards. The other 4 teams passed for less than 100. They average giving up only 106 yards per game in the air and 196 on the ground. Pretty solid stats and based solely on the numbers I would not have them at 2-4.

Other things to consider when looking at numbers...

vs CNU....we all know about the 10+ inches of rain....CNU had 51 yards in the air. I think the Indianapolis Colts would have had a hard time passing in that game.

vs the Hornets....GC gave up 2 yards Net Passing...2 yards!!! as in TWO yards...but GC LOST 36-10...SU didn't need to pass.

vs Southern Virginia....well it's Southern Virginia...not much more to say. 84 yds in the air.

He mentioned Mars Hill ran for 499 yards....but they're at a different level. Kudos to GC for scheduling them. 

vs Maryville....Maryville had the most balanced attack...146 passing, 123 rushing.

Anyway, just some numbers and opinions on stuff. Y'all have fun with it.

I have a hard time figuring out the games GC has played. Take out Mars Hill and the Waterowrld game at CNU and they are 2-2..Edging out a good Maryville team, edging out a poor SOVA team, a close game (loss) to Guilford who just beat #10 Bridgewater, getting blown out by a poor Hornets team........

So I predicted a 42-0 AU win....watch, GC will win 35-33. Which would be perfectly ok with me!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 19, 2006, 03:27:00 PM
Wilmington, NC area but next as of December it's off to Charleston SC.  Anybody know nice places to live down there?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on October 19, 2006, 04:08:50 PM
papi, no one could throw to the other team the way I could.  I have like 15 ints to CNU alone.  This Parks kid for MC has potential to be really good.  I like him.  With that off he should pass us in anther two years. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 19, 2006, 04:44:19 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 19, 2006, 03:27:00 PM
Wilmington, NC area but next as of December it's off to Charleston SC.  Anybody know nice places to live down there?
There are a lof of nice places to live in Charleston, but it can be very pricey around the beach, The Citadel, the College of Charleston and the Battery.  I predict you'll have go west on I-26 or north across the Cooper River until you find something in a serviceman's budget.  Good Luck!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 04:50:02 PM
I've been to Charleston many times in my past job......not a bad place to live. Everywhere looks pretty nice to me. They did a great job transitioning away from being a navy town. It's actually a nicer place without the navy.

Hasa is right...The Citadel area is nice...brought back some twitches...I had a boss that was a 1970 graduate from The Citadel...I'll never be the same!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 19, 2006, 06:12:34 PM
 I set up a few posting rules for myself.  Again most of you know, I don't back down when people confront me.  To save my heart (history of heart problems in the family  ;) :-\), I will use these rules when people confront me about the pride and in general:


1) If you talk bad about a coach or a player, usually I defend them.  If you talk bad I will smite you.  I have that power. (This won't happen all the time, but I will judge it)

2) When you do talk bad about a coach or a player,  I will follow with use your resourses and channel it elsewhere.

3) I will congratulate all teams on victory. I will congratulate players of the week, and debate who should have gotten.

4)  I will ask questions about things that have happened in box scores, be more of a statistical approach.

Greensboro isn't used to having avid posters on these boards.  They just aren't ready as the rest of the schools in the conference.  I will respect that and take it easy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 19, 2006, 06:24:01 PM

I don't have to make any rules for myself, do I ? :-\

How about this - if Greensboro wins, I'll make myself a large hot fudge sunday to celebrate !!!  ;D

If Greensboro loses, I'll make myself a large hot fudge sunday to console myself !!!  :'(

Sometimes I think that maybe I'm just too hard on myself ! !   8)

I know, I know, typical Pride lack of discipline . . . . . . .   :(




ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 19, 2006, 06:35:44 PM
I don't know Rocket...I threw 5 to the Captains but I only played them once!

How are you enjoying arena ball? Try to keep JB straight!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:09:39 PM
Newbie....If the Pride win this weekend....Hot Fudge Sundaes are on me!!!!

Bballguy....you crack me up....I love it. I will try not to make you smite me...wouldn't want that. And waht the heck are you trying to say in rule #2 - other than tequila is good!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:16:17 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 19, 2006, 06:35:44 PM
I don't know Rocket...I threw 5 to the Captains but I only played them once!

How are you enjoying arena ball? Try to keep JB straight!

10-29-5 100 yards
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 19, 2006, 08:20:17 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:09:39 PM
Newbie....If the Pride win this weekend....Hot Fudge Sundaes are on me!!!!

Bballguy....you crack me up....I love it. I will try not to make you smite me...wouldn't want that. And waht the heck are you trying to say in rule #2 - other than tequila is good!!  :D
Rule #2 also confused me, so I decided to eat a large hot fudge sundae while I tried to figure it out.  The sundae was delicious, but I was still confused with rule #2.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:21:56 PM
Quote from: rocket on October 19, 2006, 04:08:50 PM
papi, no one could throw to the other team the way I could.  I have like 15 ints to CNU alone.  This Parks kid for MC has potential to be really good.  I like him.  With that off he should pass us in anther two years. 

Rocket..give yourself more credit

47-87-7 612 yards and 1 W against CNU....you made me mad last year...

20-29-1 323 yards.....what a way to go out as a senior..knocking us out of the playoffs for the first time ever...I bet you still have nice dreams about that!! Nobody could beat you that day!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:22:23 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 19, 2006, 08:20:17 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:09:39 PM
Newbie....If the Pride win this weekend....Hot Fudge Sundaes are on me!!!!

Bballguy....you crack me up....I love it. I will try not to make you smite me...wouldn't want that. And waht the heck are you trying to say in rule #2 - other than tequila is good!!  :D
Rule #2 also confused me, so I decided to eat a large hot fudge sundae while I tried to figure it out.  The sundae was delicious, but I was still confused with rule #2.   

eat another
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 19, 2006, 08:36:53 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:22:23 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 19, 2006, 08:20:17 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:09:39 PM
Newbie....If the Pride win this weekend....Hot Fudge Sundaes are on me!!!!

Bballguy....you crack me up....I love it. I will try not to make you smite me...wouldn't want that. And waht the heck are you trying to say in rule #2 - other than tequila is good!!  :D
Rule #2 also confused me, so I decided to eat a large hot fudge sundae while I tried to figure it out.  The sundae was delicious, but I was still confused with rule #2.
eat another
I did.  Now I am full and confused.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 19, 2006, 08:38:08 PM
That was harsh '85   ;D ... I don't remember much about that day, I had my bell rung on every play in that game, explains a lot doesn't it Narch?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 19, 2006, 08:46:10 PM
haha rule #2 means,  if you say it.  I don't want to hear about it on the board.  Tell your wife, tell your dog, e-mail Gullett( or me) don't put it on the board.  I love to run my mouth and I don't want to waste valuable board space going a week and having attacks take up the board.  When these boards should be about the games.  (Not me)

Sorry I wasn't clear.  I was eating a hot fudge sundae when I typed it up.  Are we clear now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:48:37 PM
ummm.....no. I need more hot fudge sundaes...anyone else get it? or is it me? I'm way confused.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:51:18 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 19, 2006, 06:12:34 PM


2) When you do talk bad about a coach or a player,  I will follow with use your resourses and channel it elsewhere.

and then...

haha rule #2 means,  if you say it.  I don't want to hear about it on the board.  Tell your wife, tell your dog, e-mail Gullett( or me) don't put it on the board.  I love to run my mouth and I don't want to waste valuable board space going a week and having attacks take up the board.  When these boards should be about the games.  (Not me)



umm...i keep reading it....can't connect the dots
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:55:19 PM
I GOT IT! ok, maybe not.

Don't talk bad about a GC coach or player...becuase this board is about games, not PrideSportBBallguy....huh........but wait....nope, that can't be it.....cuz he's not a coach or player...or maybe he is....bballguy could be hoops or baseball.....but this is a football board....but rule #2 is also on the hoops board.....

dangit someone help me....and pass the cherries!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 19, 2006, 08:56:24 PM
 Rule # 2, I will tell you if you talk bad about a coach or player at this school.  To go tell your wife or dog. (This is using your resources.)  Then move on. Its more of a rule 1b.


My vote goes to Brick Crowder at this point for Defensive Rookie of the Year.
                                             G      Ass Tkl   Tot   Avg   Sacks

CROWDER, Brick...... GC   FR  6      28  21    49   8.2    2
BEATTY, Dionte...... SU   FR  6       31  19    50   8.3    1

Dionte Beatty in close second.  (I am only giving it to Brick because he does have more sacks at the moment.)

(this post follows rule 3 and 4  ;) )
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:57:52 PM
does bballguy mean hoops or baseball?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 09:00:33 PM
oh I get it now......the punctuation. Really confused me.

Plus, I never thought of my dog as a resource before!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 19, 2006, 09:03:21 PM
neither

Basic Ball-(Pride sports all (Basic) ball sports guy) Kind of a play on words because alot of sports use some type of ball.


hence why BB is captiolized.  Two different words.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 19, 2006, 09:06:47 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 09:00:33 PM
oh I get it now......the punctuation. Really confused me.

Plus, I never thought of my dog as a resource before!  ;D

I get all my good ideas from my dogs  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 09:10:14 PM
Papi,,

I just sent you a personal message.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 19, 2006, 09:19:28 PM
NC High School Football (Southern Alamance) lost a solid coach the other day in the in death of Tony Perrou.  I had the chance to interview with him this summer and he really ran a top notch program. 

Think of his family in your prayers.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 09:26:51 PM
Will do!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 19, 2006, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 19, 2006, 09:06:47 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 09:00:33 PM
oh I get it now......the punctuation. Really confused me.

Plus, I never thought of my dog as a resource before!  ;D
I get all my good ideas from my dogs  :D
I get all my good punctuation from my dogs.  

Here are two sentences I learned in school to help show the importance of correct punctuation.  I think they're pretty funny.

1) The panda eats shoots and leaves.
2) The panda eats, shoots and leaves.  OMG!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 19, 2006, 09:30:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 19, 2006, 09:19:28 PM
NC High School Football (Southern Alamance) lost a solid coach the other day in the in death of Tony Perrou.  I had the chance to interview with him this summer and he really ran a top notch program. 

Think of his family in your prayers.
I saw the story on the internet just about a half hour ago.  It is a sad day for his family and the SAHS program. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 19, 2006, 09:39:39 PM
no. amount. of hot fudge. can help you understand. prideguy. i'm close to. giving, up

prideguy...how are these rules significantly different than your previous m.o.?  i'd like to know what your rules were BEFORE the new rules...

newbie...i'd like a hot fudge sundae, as long as you're serving them up :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 19, 2006, 09:42:30 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 08:21:56 PM20-29-1 323 yards.....what a way to go out as a senior..knocking us out of the playoffs for the first time ever...I bet you still have nice dreams about that!! Nobody could beat you that day!

that was a special day, and one that i hope every monarch remembers on saturday...mc was purely dominant for an entire half and i hope they realize that they can do the same thing this weekend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 10:29:38 PM
Narch,

I hope this Saturday that Monarchs everywhere remember LAST YEAR....I hope they want to forget this Saturday for a long time!!! You probaly don't remember the 49-0 game at all, do you?

Are you coming up for the game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 10:33:52 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 19, 2006, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 19, 2006, 09:06:47 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 09:00:33 PM
oh I get it now......the punctuation. Really confused me.

Plus, I never thought of my dog as a resource before!  ;D
I get all my good ideas from my dogs  :D
I get all my good punctuation from my dogs.  

Here are two sentences I learned in school to help show the importance of correct punctuation.  I think they're pretty funny.

1) The panda eats shoots and leaves.
2) The panda eats, shoots and leaves.  OMG!  :)

I remember being taught to include a comma before the word "and".....is that not right?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 19, 2006, 10:40:13 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 10:33:52 PMI remember being taught to include a comma before the word "and".....is that not right?

i think both are correct when there is a sequence of 3 or more...i think it's a style issue and either can be used, as long as they are used consistently - but i could be wrong :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 19, 2006, 10:42:26 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 10:29:38 PM
You probaly don't remember the 49-0 game at all, do you?

Are you coming up for the game?

no...when was that  ??? :)

unfortunately, no - i've got a buddy that teaches @ odu and i thought about driving up to hang with him and catch the game, but the wife isn't quite all about that drive for a football game, especially when the monarchs have home games the next few weekends that i plan to attend :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 11:00:08 PM
I can understand that!!

I might have to go to the game alone..which is ok, once I get there I know at least 30-40 people, mostly from my church....plus Goose sticks his head out of the press box once in awhile and I reach up and slap him.

I was going to take my neighbor's kid - but he has a soccer game until 1...SOCCER....they're turning him into a wuss!!! My daughter likes soccer guys from her high school...she likes the long hair!!! I was at a social event one day and a soccer punk she liked was there. I made sure he was in earshot when I made a comment to another parent that if I ever caught a soccer player kissing my daughter I was ripping his lips off!!! One soccer guy had the nerve to give my little girl a hug one morning when I dropped her off at school. I told her that night that if I saw him do it again I was parking my truck and jacking him up!!!!

I love being a dad - I get to abuse these boys!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2006, 11:03:13 PM
last post of the night. I sent the following message to the AD at the University of Miami!!

Subject: Supensions

A one game suspension against Duke????!!!!

OOhhhhh, that'll hurt the program and players involved! You will only win that game by 24 points. Come on, do you realize how ridiculous that's making you look?

It makes me realize how College Football has become a big business. NCAA sports is a farce!

The Student-Athlete is a rare individual at the D1 and 1-AA scholarship level.

What's your graduation rate for the football team in the past 5 years? 10?

I think I'll go watch DIII sports! The integrity is still intact!

I put my name here
Newport News, VA

(and I'm not a Va Tech or UVA alum or fan)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 19, 2006, 11:25:24 PM
85... I thought you would have trained your daughter better than that  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 19, 2006, 11:49:55 PM
Quote from: narch on October 19, 2006, 09:39:39 PM
no. amount. of hot fudge. can help you understand. prideguy. i'm close to. giving, up

prideguy...how are these rules significantly different than your previous m.o.?  i'd like to know what your rules were BEFORE the new rules...

newbie...i'd like a hot fudge sundae, as long as you're serving them up :)

I would take on anybody.  No matter if one of you guys questioned a player or coach.  Everyone is welcome to thier opinion, but I have come to realize what happens on field between players and coaches happens on the field, not on these boards.  I am going to take a more neutral stand, like i said I was going to do if we lost to CNU.  Go look at my posts.

I am still a pride fan, but I won't jump in and talk about how coaches do or don't do something.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 19, 2006, 11:54:22 PM
If you can't be a fan in defeat than do be a fan at all!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 12:00:36 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 19, 2006, 11:54:22 PM
If you can't be a fan in defeat than do be a fan at all!

A fan in defeat moves on to next week, doesn't try to keep the loss until the next game.  (Something I have been very guilty with.)  I know most of you know that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2006, 03:46:21 AM
The trailing comma is not necessary. Some stylebooks might insist on them (in fact, my third grader's teacher does) but in the real world, it's not necessary.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 20, 2006, 08:49:41 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2006, 03:46:21 AM
The trailing comma is not necessary. Some stylebooks might insist on them (in fact, my third grader's teacher does) but in the real world, it's not necessary.
That's also my understanding.  Personally, I choose to not use the comma in this type of sentence.  In this example, of course, the purpose was to illustrate how the comma affects the meaning of the word "shoots."  :)  Can't you just see a panda eating dinner in a restaurant, then firing a .44 at the waiter before leaving the building?  lol

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 20, 2006, 09:44:12 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 20, 2006, 08:49:41 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2006, 03:46:21 AM
The trailing comma is not necessary. Some stylebooks might insist on them (in fact, my third grader's teacher does) but in the real world, it's not necessary.
That's also my understanding.  Personally, I choose to not use the comma in this type of sentence.  In this example, of course, the purpose was to illustrate how the comma affects the meaning of the word "shoots."  :)  Can't you just see a panda eating dinner in a restaurant, then firing a .44 at the waiter before leaving the building?  lol



I was thinking the panda ate (probably a Power Bar - or HF sundae), then shot the basketball and made it . . . . . since this IS a sports forum.  :D  A panda with a gun is a scary thought . . .jmo   :-\

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 20, 2006, 10:07:10 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 20, 2006, 09:44:12 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 20, 2006, 08:49:41 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2006, 03:46:21 AM
The trailing comma is not necessary. Some stylebooks might insist on them (in fact, my third grader's teacher does) but in the real world, it's not necessary.
That's also my understanding.  Personally, I choose to not use the comma in this type of sentence.  In this example, of course, the purpose was to illustrate how the comma affects the meaning of the word "shoots."  :)  Can't you just see a panda eating dinner in a restaurant, then firing a .44 at the waiter before leaving the building?  lol
I was thinking the panda ate (probably a Power Bar - or HF sundae), then shot the basketball and made it . . . . . since this IS a sports forum.  :D  A panda with a gun is a scary thought . . .jmo   :-\
Good point!  Actually, that's two points.  I agree, a panda with a gun is a thought too hard to bear.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 10:41:24 AM
I have thought.  (Promise it is a good one.)  USA South Football as a conference is a balanced leauge because of the preseason poll.  If it was dead on every year then it would be very easy to predict who will finish where.  It hasn't been dead on and the games reflect that.

(My karma being knocked down.  Makes no sense because with my new rules, I can't say anything to really warrant it.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2006, 11:53:34 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2006, 03:46:21 AM
The trailing comma is not necessary. Some stylebooks might insist on them (in fact, my third grader's teacher does) but in the real world, it's not necessary.

Pat - Thanks for the BEAR facts!!!! I'll still use a trailing comma......I'm old and set in my ways!! Maybe your  third grader's teacher is a friend of mine!! Is she cute?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2006, 11:59:42 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 10:41:24 AM
I have thought. 

You make it too easy....I can't pick on you anymore...no challenge!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2006, 12:00:30 PM
Narch....when does the team leave for CNU? Do they travel up the morning of the game or the night before?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 12:09:24 PM
Keys to Victory GC vs AU

Greensboro

Pass the football- AU has a very suspect pass defense.  Being able to pass the ball should get them down the field, and put points on the board.

Eliminate TO's-  GC went from the top of the league in TO margin to one of the worst in the past two weeks. GC needs to score to win.

Execute on special teams- Special teams have led to some points for GC opponents.  That can't happen this week if they are looking to win.


Averett- (Yellow have you seen the women's soccer jerseys)

Run the Football-They are among the top in the league in passing.  GC pass defense is tops in forcing TO's and efficiency.  Running the ball takes pass defense out.

Control the clock-They are last in the league.  GC has done a decent job of controling the clock.  Keeping games close early.

Keep the field long- AU needs the special teams to keep the field long.  GC is near the top in kick returns and punt returns.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 12:15:41 PM
GC 27 AU 24- It was my upset special in the pick'em.  I am sticking to it.

CNU 35 MC 17-  CNU won't take MC lightly after allowing Maryville to come back.  Plus they are playing at home.

NCWC 24 SU 14- They put up some points but NCWC is just too much for SU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 20, 2006, 12:18:39 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 12:09:24 PMGC needs to score to win. .... GC has done a decent job of controling the clock.  Keeping games close early.
pridebball guy - Every team needs to score to win!  If you don't, you get a tie at best.  Perhaps you're saying the Pride will have to score a lot of points to win because you know the Cougars will score very often.  How many minutes can you keep "it close early"?  All games are 0-0 when the clock starts.  If you're saying GC needs to be within a couple of scores at halftime to stay in the game, then I agree.  Every coach in America can say these are "keys" to the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 20, 2006, 12:22:06 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 12:09:24 PM
Keep the field long- AU needs the special teams to keep the field long.  GC is near the top in kick returns and punt returns.

One thing that's worth mentioning if you're going to point out special teams: Averett is No. 2 in the conference in punt distance, and the team is No. 1 in net distance (which means the total after the return).

And Averett is No. 2 in the conference in KO return yards, averaging just over 22 yards per return.

Though I'm not really making an effort to pick on GC here (honest!), I notice a couple of other stats that work in Averett's favor. Gboro is 7th and 8th in third- and fourth-down conversions, respectively.

And finally, the Pride has the worst Red Zone offense in the USAC, but then Averett has the worst Red Zone defense. Eeenteresting....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 12:39:04 PM
GC has the tendecy to allow teams to put up some points on them in the first quarter (Over the past few years.)  GC this year has had some leads on teams and blew them in the second half.

Plus GC's defense is near the middle to top in preventing 3rd and 4th down conversions. :-\  AU is near the bottom in both.  Special Teams will be an important factor in this game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 20, 2006, 12:49:54 PM
Another major key will be for Averett to play a complete game. They have struggled all year to play 4 quarters. They will go full boar in the 1st quarter and then get flat as a pancake until the pressure is on in the 4th.

If their running game is on, GC needs to tighten up the chin straps, as Averett will turn Wilson loose and run until GC starts ignoring the receivers then Averett will look to J. Hugley. GC knows they will have to double and triple cover Jeff and that will free up someone.

Finally home field advantgage will help. Mudd and Knats from the rain will get on everyone's nerves. That field is terrible to kick on when its wet. Both ends are cow pastures and the kickers will be all over the place.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2006, 01:25:08 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 10:41:24 AM
I have thought.  (Promise it is a good one.)  USA South Football as a conference is a balanced leauge because of the preseason poll.

the usasac pre-season poll has nothing to do with the balance in the league - the league is balanced because there is solid coaching and talent at virtually every school and no one school really has so much more of either that they are head and shoulders above the rest - the usasac is also balanced because cnu really forced the other schools in the conference to get out of the pattern of mediocrity and evaluate what they were doing on and off the field if they wanted to win...i think the other schools in this conference have really done a good job of rising to the challenge and not accepting the role of also ran every year - the pre-season poll has absolutely ZERO bearing on on-field performance
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 01:44:13 PM
Quote from: narch on October 20, 2006, 01:25:08 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 10:41:24 AM
I have thought.  (Promise it is a good one.)  USA South Football as a conference is a balanced leauge because of the preseason poll.

the usasac pre-season poll has nothing to do with the balance in the league - the league is balanced because there is solid coaching and talent at virtually every school and no one school really has so much more of either that they are head and shoulders above the rest - the usasac is also balanced because cnu really forced the other schools in the conference to get out of the pattern of mediocrity and evaluate what they were doing on and off the field if they wanted to win...i think the other schools in this conference have really done a good job of rising to the challenge and not accepting the role of also ran every year - the pre-season poll has absolutely ZERO bearing on on-field performance

An unbalanced league would lead to a more predictable preseason poll.  It hasn't been all that predictable these past few years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2006, 01:54:18 PM
I'm unbalanced...does that mean anything?  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2006, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 10:41:24 AM
I have thought.  (Promise it is a good one.)  USA South Football as a conference is a balanced leauge because of the preseason poll.

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 01:44:13 PM
An unbalanced league would lead to a more predictable preseason poll.  It hasn't been all that predictable these past few years.

prideguy...you really need to put some thought into your posts...what you have said in the first post is altogether different from what you are saying in the 2nd post

in the first post  you are claiming some sort of cause and effect relationship between the pre-season poll and the balance in the league (incorrectly)

in the second post you are using the inability to accurately predict conference finish as a sign of a balanced league (correctly, so, i might add...very astute observation said with sarcasm)

more importantly, what does your boy gullet think about the balance in the league...i'd like to hear from him now that things have gone a bit south for the pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2006, 02:35:19 PM
Good points Narch....I wanna know if "Gullett has thought"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 20, 2006, 02:52:55 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 20, 2006, 02:35:19 PM
Good points Narch....I wanna know if "Gullett has thought"
You guys have been searching for Gullett and wondering if he's still around.  Logically, according to Rene Descartes, if "Gullett thinks, therefore he is."  Problem solved.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2006, 04:03:42 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 20, 2006, 11:53:34 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 20, 2006, 03:46:21 AM
The trailing comma is not necessary. Some stylebooks might insist on them (in fact, my third grader's teacher does) but in the real world, it's not necessary.

Pat - Thanks for the BEAR facts!!!! I'll still use a trailing comma......I'm old and set in my ways!! Maybe your  third grader's teacher is a friend of mine!! Is she cute?

No idea, she's in Virginia and I'm in Connecticut.  :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2006, 05:02:22 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 20, 2006, 02:52:55 PMYou guys have been searching for Gullett and wondering if he's still around.  Logically, according to Rene Descartes, if "Gullett thinks, therefore he is."  Problem solved.  :)

nova - logically, i know that gullet "is" - what i want to know is this..."is he still supporting his pride through the tough times?" - it's easy to "be" when things are going well  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 20, 2006, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: narch on October 20, 2006, 05:02:22 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 20, 2006, 02:52:55 PMYou guys have been searching for Gullett and wondering if he's still around.  Logically, according to Rene Descartes, if "Gullett thinks, therefore he is."  Problem solved.  :)
nova - logically, i know that gullet "is" - what i want to know is this..."is he still supporting his pride through the tough times?" - it's easy to "be" when things are going well  ;)
True.  He  has been conspicuously absent since the CNU and Shenandoah games.  Deep down inside, I think the Pride fans had to think they were going to have a tough game with CNU.  It's the Shenandoah game that burst their bubble.  When you think about it, though, no posts at all sometimes make more sense than some of the things that are posted.  Less is more.  :)  Seriously, I hope they can get on track and get a few wins to end the season.  I saw some talent for the Pride in the game I saw.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 20, 2006, 06:10:37 PM
85...I'm sure they are leaving tonight...but don't you go around trying to find their hotel  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 07:09:34 PM
Gullet's disapearence is a mystery.  I haven't looked for him nor do I want too.  He will show up when Gullet is ready.  We only have room for one person to make far fetched comments about USA south and the pride.  Even then, mine are not quite out there like Gullett's are.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2006, 09:37:27 PM
he's out there...

Quote from: GCGullett on October 20, 2006, 05:00:17 PM

The spreads for Week 8 of Pick Your Knows.

10/21
Methodist (+19.5) at Christopher Newport
Greensboro (+16.5) at Averett 
NC Wesleyan at

National
Springfield (+16.5) at St. John Fisher
St. Norbert at Ripon (+21.5)

Tiebreaker: How many rushing yards will CNU get against Methodist's defense?

228

gullett - did you make a bet with someone that had something to do with not posting on this board?  c'mon, share your thoughts, man...we'd love to hear from you...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 20, 2006, 09:40:23 PM
Narch, We're heading City Limits for some bull riding tonight...you in?  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2006, 09:41:08 PM
that reminds me, i haven't posted my predictions yet:

ncwc 20 - su 10: the hornets found some positive things and their running game last week, but that was the pride defense, not the bishop defense they were running against...they keep the game close at home, but the bishops have a bit too much

au 38 - gc 21: the cougars and mr. wilson run all over the pride, and when the pride put 8 in the box to slow the running game, mr. hughley and mr. parsons take over - i predict at least one td for hughley in the return game

cnu 21 - mc 13: as much as i want to pick my monarchs, and as much as i think it will be a good game, the captains defense is ultimately too much
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2006, 09:41:41 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 20, 2006, 09:40:23 PM
Narch, We're heading City Limits for some bull riding tonight...you in?  :o

i'll be there in 2 hours :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 20, 2006, 10:08:59 PM
Captains don't forget what they did to you last year and crush the Monarchs like we did a few years back.

Damn Im good, I have to be at work at 9 but I talked my boss into letting me get off at 1. So I'll catch the 2nd half of the Captain game.


ITS HOMECOMING SO THE CROWD SHOULD BE ROCKING.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 20, 2006, 10:30:24 PM
Quote from: narch on October 20, 2006, 05:02:22 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 20, 2006, 02:52:55 PMYou guys have been searching for Gullett and wondering if he's still around.  Logically, according to Rene Descartes, if "Gullett thinks, therefore he is."  Problem solved.  :)

nova - logically, i know that gullet "is" - what i want to know is this..."is he still supporting his pride through the tough times?" - it's easy to "be" when things are going well  ;)

I sure hope he's still supporting The Pride - he does the radio broadcast every game!  ???

I plan to make the trip to Danville for the game. I personally think Herbin being out has hurt GC more than imagined. I think it changes some of the calls that the HC makes and puts too much emphasis on Torrey. Not that Torrey can't do it, but it is easier on Lowe when you haved a stud RB like Herbin to distract a defense - at least that is my opinion.  :-\

The Pride also needs to see more consistent play by the QB (and the receivers have to make all the catches the whole game). It seems like they make a couple of good plays, then follow with a mistake or turnover.  I wonder if the alternating QBs affects the consistency. My dad used to say that anything with two heads is a freak . . . . . just a thought.    ::)   

What is the weather gonna be like tomorrow in Danville?  Thanks!  :)

KEY TO GC VICTORY:   score more than Averritt!!!



ROLL PRIDE ! ! !








Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 20, 2006, 10:43:42 PM
what about the address of the North Campus, so I don't end up driving around Danville during the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 20, 2006, 11:01:37 PM
Quote
When entering Danville from Greensboro follow Rout 29 Business following signs into town. Once in town stay to the left on Memorial Drive. At bottom of hill take a left onto Piedmont Drive. There will be a dam and you will cross the river. After crossing the bridge take a left at the third light onto Mount Cross Road (There will be a Good Year Tire Store, bank and an Outback Steakhouse). The entrance to the North Campus will be less than a ½ mile on the left.

. . . . . I found this on the Averitt website for directions to the North Campus.  Anyone want to confirm that this is correct?







ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on October 21, 2006, 12:16:00 AM
Papi, I love arena ball.  That game is crazy! I think you probably got a little left in the tank. Why not come out? Didn't you go over seas a couple years back?

P.S. I, teach, English, at, school, all, day, so, can, we, stop, with, all, the, grammar, questions

You guys are starting to confuse me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on October 21, 2006, 12:17:39 AM
I would like to also pick MC in a surprise over CNU!  Larkin gets on track with a 50+ yard field goal to win the game as time expires!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 21, 2006, 12:36:59 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 20, 2006, 11:01:37 PM
Quote
When entering Danville from Greensboro follow Rout 29 Business following signs into town. Once in town stay to the left on Memorial Drive. At bottom of hill take a left onto Piedmont Drive. There will be a dam and you will cross the river. After crossing the bridge take a left at the third light onto Mount Cross Road (There will be a Good Year Tire Store, bank and an Outback Steakhouse). The entrance to the North Campus will be less than a ½ mile on the left.

. . . . . I found this on the Averitt website for directions to the North Campus.  Anyone want to confirm that this is correct?

ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !  
I drove to Averett from Greensboro for a game last month.  That all sounds right.   It was pretty easy to find.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on October 21, 2006, 12:43:22 AM
Keep me straight? I spend my time trying to keep him upright!

Papi....when we going out on the town in Wimington?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 21, 2006, 03:01:16 AM
Rocket....yeah, me and DF went over seas last spring to play...things got to complicated so we both headed back to the states!!!!

JB....you better hurry....as of the December 1st, I will be in Charleston SC.  But you and the MC boys are still welcome to  come throw down.

Narch...you missed one heck of a throw down!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on October 21, 2006, 02:03:18 PM
Is there anywhere I can go to hear the game online? Any updates?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 21, 2006, 02:13:54 PM
Averett 21
Gboro 7

...as time is about to run out in the first half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 21, 2006, 02:15:23 PM
rocket, go to CNU's athletic webpage, they have a link there for the broadcast and live stats.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 21, 2006, 02:34:00 PM
CNU throws for a TD to make it 14-0.

There's, I think, a little over 8 minutes left in the 3rd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 21, 2006, 02:54:47 PM
Averett leads Greensboro 35-14.

AU just intercepted a pass and returned it for a TD.

5:14 3rd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 21, 2006, 03:40:58 PM
nice game captains...great performance on both sides of the ball holding mc to 159 total yards and gaining 360 in a 21-0 win...i predicted the captains score correctly...just missed the monarch part

mike hill was held to 53 yards on 17 carries, but i had heard a rumor late yesterday that he wouldn't play at all due to a lingering injury...nice to hear that he toughed it out
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 21, 2006, 03:45:49 PM
umm...averett is beating gc 62-21 according to the scoreboard...ouch!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 21, 2006, 04:24:30 PM
i'll tell you this...there is no way cnu is the #21 team in the country




they're probably more like the #18 or #19 team :)

someone take a guess at how many posts we'll see from gullet this week...i'm betting one (on the pick 'em board)...he's mailed it in for his team

meanwhile, i like the monarchs chances of winning 3 straight to finish the season, but next weekend will be a tough game - i think m'ville is much improved vs. last year and vs. earlier this year

and it looks like the b'water crew won't have to worry if their schedule was tough enough to get a pool c bid, with a loss to ehc today...wow
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 21, 2006, 05:36:47 PM
my thoughts on the game today...before I read the box score....

CNU dominated every aspect of the game.....except they kept turning the ball over in the red zone. If they do that aginst a top 20 team, they get beat on the scoreboard.....they do that against MC with Rocket at QB...it's a tough game to call.

The refs are freaking aweful....just terrible.....they didn't know what they were doing.....here's an example of something minor as to how bad they were....CNU punts...the ball is ROLLING on the ground, then rolls out of bounds....key here - it rolled out, not out in the air where you have to triangulate the out of bounds point......it rolled out at the 30 yd line...the side judge puts the ball on the 30 yard line....the Ref goes to midfield and spots the ball on the 31...then the side judge MOVES HIS spot from the 30 to the 31!!!!

I know it was only one yard.....but the point is they didn't know what they were doing.

Faison should not run the option.....he looked awkward....and had some bad pitches........tear out that page of the playbook!

George Jones looked lost on punt returns....ALWAYS misjudged the ball.....also, when the ball is coming right down on you at the 20 and you give a fair catch...DO NOT step forward and let the ball roll inside the 10.....

Faison is in rhythm with his pasing....he was awesome in the pocket.

Hilliard is a 5'7" beast......put him on ESPN Sunday night cuz some of the MC defenders got JACKED UP!!

CNU defense is great!!! I lost count how many times MC had the ball in the red zone due to turnovers and came away with zip. The linebackers, in my opinion, have not fallen off compared to last year's studs....I was worried about that position this year....NOT NO MORE!!!

What's up with the MC coach not kicking FGs? He had 9 points easy by early in the 4th qt.....gotta give the players a chance to win.

MC #31 is a punk!! He got beat on EVERY play yet came up trash talking, down 14 points, yapping.....getting beat.....penalties called on him......he got JACKED  UP a few times too...he deserved it...punk! He gets the ESPN radio Mike & Mike's "Just Shut Up Award".


MC QB -- look out!!!! He could be as good as Rocket as he matures.

time to go look at stats.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 21, 2006, 05:40:07 PM
Papi,

a USCG helo passed over the game.....I waved just in case you hitched a ride to come see the game  ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 21, 2006, 05:44:23 PM
I was off on the GC prediction...but I was within 1 pt on the spread!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 21, 2006, 07:00:40 PM
anybody that UNCW has 4 losses by a COMBINED 10 points!! CNU better not look ahead to the AU game...or they'll get beat!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 21, 2006, 08:48:22 PM
85...yeah I arranged a fly over and they were supposed to take out the CNU QB but apparently the 50 cal jammed  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 21, 2006, 08:50:57 PM
as for one of those who gave NCW one of those tight losses.....they'll be flyin high there.   A tough place to play..hopefully CNU has a good crowd showing for a close game (2.5 hours) which will help them.

from a CNU grad
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 21, 2006, 09:01:52 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on October 21, 2006, 02:54:47 PM
Averett leads Greensboro 35-14.

AU just intercepted a pass and returned it for a TD.

5:14 3rd.

OK - I am still a Pride fan.  I am still a Pride fan.  I am still a pride fan.  I'm still a pride fam.
Whew !  Now that that is out of the way . . . . .

WCLeg - This is where, IMO, the coach gave up. It was 21-7 at half. First series of the second half, GC intercepted the ball and then drove about 65 yards to a TD. But on AU's next possession they drove it down the throats of The Pride - running the ball - and the score was 28-14. I think the AU defense was picking up on the GC pattern (Run or throw short on first down, throw short on second down, throw deep on third and long). On second down, with the DBs dropping back four across, the LB undercut the receiver and picked off a pass that should not have been called or thrown - and returned it for a TD.  >:(

Now it was 35-14 with 5:14 left in the third QTR. The coach gave up and the players knew it. He benched the only starting QB left (I think the other starting QB is out for season) and GC had FOUR turnovers in the second half, three for TDs ! ! ! The team was going through the motions. It was painful to watch. I'm wondering what they can rally around from here on out. Attitude and confidence are necessary, even if you have talent. We seem to be missing the first two.  :(

The Pride just have too much talent to keep doing this . . . .at some point over the past several years you have to say, 'maybe, just maybe, this offense doesn't work too well.' Even with some very talented players.  ???

I looked at the stats of last years AU game - GC dominated the stats 2 to 1, but lost 21-20. This year three different QBs had a turnover for a TD.  :-[

I listened to the AU broadcast on the radio until halftime. The announcers joked that they could probably go down on the field and throw a TD pass or run on the GC defense . . . . IMO, if your defense is not too good, you play ball control and keep the ball in the hands of your offense. jmho  :-[

They also commented on how GC only operates out of the shotgun . . . . and questioned why they don't run more or at least run the option since it appears they have a good running QB and some good RBs. They were wondering if GC ever took a direct snap . . . (I think they did once in this game)  ::)

GC had one turnover in the first half . . . . ball tipped and intercepted. End of drive. :'(

KEY TO MY POP WARNER TEAM BEATING GC:  Give the ball to my 10 year-old stud RB Keith L. and let him run it up the middle!    8)

OK - I am still a Pride fan.  I am still a Pride fan.  I am still a pride fan.  I'm still a pride fam.

BTW, CONGRATS TO THE COUGARS FOR SETTING A NEW SCHOOL RECORD FOR TOTAL POINTS ! ! ! ( Which I guess explains the double reverse pass trick play for a TD when they were up by 40 points :-\ )  :o

Lastly, AU is a good team. I think CNU is better. I didn't see anything scary about their team - GC cannot be used as a gauge for anyone the rest of the season. This GC team I saw today (and last week) does not look the same as the team I saw earlier in the year.  :(

Now The Pride plays for PRIDE - hopefully they still have some . . . . . >:(


OK - Now I'm gonna go look at the game stats . . . . I'm not sure why . . . . ???


RUN, PRIDE, RUN ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 21, 2006, 09:09:58 PM
Quote from: narch on October 21, 2006, 03:45:49 PM
umm...averett is beating gc 62-21 according to the scoreboard...ouch!

BTW, this was the final score . . . .

It's a good thing I don't drink any more . . . . .  I'm gonna go get me a hot fudge sundae and cry in my fudge.  :'(  :'(   :'(


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 21, 2006, 10:47:45 PM
Newbie...start drinking again! I'll buy!! I know how tough it is to be a fan of a team that is struggling. I've been a Vikings fan since 1969!!! 4 Superbowl LOSSES!!!!!!! ANd that loss in the NFC title game a few years ago to the Falcons is still haunting me!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 21, 2006, 10:49:53 PM
yippe for me...that last post put me over 200 since I re-instated my screen name.....now I can affect Karma again!!!!!

Life is good.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 21, 2006, 10:52:31 PM
I have just a few comments to throw into the mix. First off, thanks for the detailed recap D3Newbie. I was toggling between the AU-GC game, the CNU-Meth game, and my own Wabash game. I missed the ends of all three because I had to come into work. After that post of mine, I didn't listen to any more of it. Thanks for filling in some of the blanks.

Quote from: D3Newbie on October 21, 2006, 09:01:52 PM
I think the AU defense was picking up on the GC pattern (Run or throw short on first down, throw short on second down, throw deep on third and long). On second down, with the DBs dropping back four across, the LB undercut the receiver and picked off a pass that should not have been called or thrown - and returned it for a TD.  >:(

I'm never going to say that Averett's defense in the best in the land, but I will give them credit for being very smart...and adaptable. I think you nailed it by saying that they picked up on Gboro's patterns and adjusted to it. They did the same thing in the Guilford game, and held the Quakers to only 6 second-half points. Today, Gboro's pass game was held to only 95 yards. I'm impressed.

Quote from: D3Newbie on October 21, 2006, 09:01:52 PM
AU is a good team. I think CNU is better. I didn't see anything scary about their team - GC cannot be used as a gauge for anyone the rest of the season. This GC team I saw today (and last week) does not look the same as the team I saw earlier in the year.  :(

I disagree about using GC as a baromete beacuse GC played these two teams only 14 days apart. I know it's not an exact science, but it's not like we'd be comparing a game from Week 2 with a game from Week 8. Also, I'm kinda interested/stunned/intrigued that CNU had scored only 7 points this weekend by halftime...at home. I didn't hear all the details, but I kind of feel like there might actually be a chink in that armor. It just makes the Nov. 4 showdown all that much more exciting.

Quote from: D3Newbie on October 21, 2006, 09:01:52 PM
I listened to the AU broadcast on the radio until halftime.

Does Averett have an Internet broadcast? I didn't think they did. Or were you listening to the regular, ol' fashioned radio.  ;)

On another note:
I'm surprised at how one-sided that Wesleyan-Shenandoah game was. This year, the Bishops truely have been the toughest team to get a handle on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 21, 2006, 11:33:52 PM

CAUTION:
This post is only for those with a lot of time to waste (like me on Sat. night) Please continue at your own risk!  :P

I know you can do anything with stats, and every game can be different, but I thought this was interesting, at least to me. This was probably just a cleansing process for me . . . now I can move on to the next game.  Anyone know the line on the Ferrum/GC game?  Be nice . . .  ;D


Rushing                      No Gain Loss  Net  TD  Lg   Avg
WILLIAMS, Allen           14  123    0   123  1    26     8.8
CAMPBELL,Brandon       7     35    1       34  0   16     4.9
DAY, Damon                 2     20    0       20  0   17    10.0
BACON, Calvin              5     23    0        23  0     8     4.6
        (This does not include the 17 yards lost on two sacks - passing plays)
This is also without the GC starting RB, Rod Herbin!
These four players had 28 rushes for 200 yards and a 7.1 average. Not a bad case to run the ball. I think we would have even better stats if we ran the option. Even without Herbin: Williams and Campbell are studs!! :o

Passing                         Att-Cmp-Int    Yds  TD   Long   Sack
Team Totals Passing         26-10-2      95    2      28       3

Bacon started the game 0-5 passing and ended up 4-13-1 with 1 TD for the first half.  He started the second half 4-7-1 passing, then was benched for the rest of the half after throwing an interception. Bacon's final stat was 8-20-2 for 75 yards (3.8 per attempt) and averaged 4.6 yards rushing on five carries.  :-\

Here is the first scoring drive on GC's 5th possession in the first half:
13:01 (2nd)
WILLIAMS, Allen rush for 17 yards to the AU44, 1ST DOWN GC
WILLIAMS, Allen rush for 14 yards to the AU30, 1ST DOWN GC
WILLIAMS, Allen rush for 3 yards to the AU27
BACON, Calvin pass complete to HATCHELL, Bobby for 27 yards
     TOUCHDOWN
================================
GREENSBORO COLLEGE 7, AVERETT 14    (11:20)
================================

The runs set up the pass. Sometimes the pass can set up the run, but that does not seem to work as well for GC. When they run, the pass is open more often, instead of forcing passes.

Here is GC's second scoring drive on their first possession of the second half:
14:20 (3rd)
WILLIAMS, Allen rush for 1 yard to the GC29
BACON, Calvin pass complete to BAGAMARY, Tim for 1 yard to the GC30
BACON, Calvin pass incomplete to LEE, Tyrelle,
****PENALTY AU pass interference 15 yards to GC45, 1ST DN GC, NO PLAY.
BACON, Calvin pass incomplete to LEE, Tyrelle
BACON, Calvin pass complete to LOWE, Torrey for 20 yards to AU35,1ST DN
BACON, Calvin pass complete to LOWE, Torrey for 7 yards to the AU28
BACON, Calvin pass incomplete to BAGAMARY, Tim
WILLIAMS, Allen rush for 2 yards to the AU26
WILLIAMS, Allen rush for 26 yards
              TOUCHDOWN - (Drive took nearly 4 minutes off of the clock)
=================================
GREENSBORO COLLEGE 14, AVERETT 21 (10:51)
=================================

Here is GC's third & last scoring drive in the 4th QTR:
12:52 (4th).
CAMPBELL,Brand. rush for 16 yards to the 50 yardline, 1ST DOWN GC
CAMPBELL,Brand. rush for 6 yards to the AU44
CAMPBELL,Brand. rush for 6 yards to the AU38, 1ST DOWN GC
WILLIAMS, Allen rush for 19 yards to the AU19, 1ST DOWN GC
LOWE, Torrey rush for no gain to the AU19
CAMPBELL,Brand. rush for 5 yards to the AU14
McSPARIN, Pete pass incomplete.
McSPARIN, Pete pass complete to LEE, Tyrelle for 14 yards
        TOUCHDOWN
=================================
GREENSBORO COLLEGE 21, AVERETT 49   (9:30)
=================================
The rest of the game is just too painful to relive . . . :(  :-[

Congratulations on making it to the end of this post.  I would give you a karma if I could.  ;D

BTW, Ferrum doesn't run the ball very well, do they?   ::)




RUN, PRIDE, RUN ! ! !
Title: Calling BBall Guy....
Post by: Eh-You on October 21, 2006, 11:35:17 PM
Ok BBall guy, enough silence - I'm letting you out of the bet! I've got to hear your take on a few things.
1. Greensboro's pass defense is blah blah blah. 250 + 4 TDS.
2. Averett's pass defense is blah, blah, blah. 95 YDS
3. Cool stat of the game: Gboro offense = 266 yds and 21 points
                                         AU defense = 170 yds and 21 points
Would have been a pretty good game if the Averett offense wouldn't have played :D

Gotta hear your reaction BBall - and I admire your silence
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 21, 2006, 11:36:18 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on October 21, 2006, 10:52:31 PM
Does Averett have an Internet broadcast? I didn't think they did. Or were you listening to the regular, ol' fashioned radio.  ;)

Old Fashioned kind - the AU announcers did a pretty good job, but need to mike the color analyst a little better - he was hard to hear.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 21, 2006, 11:42:04 PM
And, WCLeg - the CNU/GC game was unusual because of the storm. We still tried to force the pass and ended up with something like 5 interceptions. I think that game was totally different than the SU and AU games. We might have gotten over the CNU game, but were obiously overconfident for the SU game and got our butts whipped.

We kind of had some good karma at the beginning of the season, but the last four losses have really hurt. IMO  :(

Great stats, Eh-Ewe!! It was really nasty football out there in perfect football weather. . . .


RUN, PRIDE, RUN ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 22, 2006, 02:15:00 AM
Newbie...I'm not sure if GC had good karma at the first of the season or good scheduling.  Lets face it, GC didn't play anybody the first part of the season other than Mars Hill.  I understand a need to build confidence through scheduling but it has got to be expected that once GC hit their conference portion of the schedule, they were going to take their lumps.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 22, 2006, 07:04:37 AM
mc/cnu game story  (http://www.fayettevillenc.com/article?id=245115) - coach sy says it best re: missed opportunities...kind of the story of the monarch season - i also like what he says about the character of this team...if these guys win 3 straight to finish the season, it will say a lot about them as a team

man, that cnu defense was good yesterday
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 22, 2006, 09:08:31 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 22, 2006, 02:15:00 AM
Newbie...I'm not sure if GC had good karma at the first of the season or good scheduling.  Lets face it, GC didn't play anybody the first part of the season other than Mars Hill.  I understand a need to build confidence through scheduling but it has got to be expected that once GC hit their conference portion of the schedule, they were going to take their lumps.

LUMPS?!? GC is taking more than lumps . . . . they're getting disfigured !! :o IMO

Agreed, for the most part, but Shenandoah?   ???  There was a different attitude, even with the big loss to Mars Hill! It's not so much that we didn't win those last four games, but how we lost them. Especially the last two.  :-[

I think watching them shoot themselves in the foot so much is what is so discouraging.  Not to disparage the efforts of GC's opponents, but to see GC not take better advantage of talent.  :(

Anytime a losing program tries to change, they have to overcome the stigma of losing. I watched a program go from 3-30 to two straight 13-1 seasons. The biggest change was mental.  Their new coach recognized that and emphasized attitude (and weight room, workouts, etc.). I'm sure Mitchell is probably trying to do the same. 8)

I see a different team now than at the beginning of the season - and I mean from watching them play.  Injuries have hurt them, but that is part of the game. They've lost their starting RB and several key defensive starters. But it's not like they don't have talent and can't be competitive.  :-\

OK, what does Ferrum have? Maybe they are not as strong as they were last year - right? ;)




RUN, PRIDE, RUN ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 22, 2006, 04:49:33 PM
Tough loss for the Monarchs.  Seems like they could have been there all day long but just kept finding a way to not score.  Congrats to the Captains on another win.
Hopefully the boys will dig deep and finish the season with 3 W's!
Title: Re: Calling BBall Guy....
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 22, 2006, 06:53:49 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 21, 2006, 11:35:17 PM
Ok BBall guy, enough silence - I'm letting you out of the bet! I've got to hear your take on a few things.
1. Greensboro's pass defense is blah blah blah. 250 + 4 TDS.
2. Averett's pass defense is blah, blah, blah. 95 YDS
3. Cool stat of the game: Gboro offense = 266 yds and 21 points
                                         AU defense = 170 yds and 21 points
Would have been a pretty good game if the Averett offense wouldn't have played :D

Gotta hear your reaction BBall - and I admire your silence

You said it so I am back...Too bad I just emailed my picks to Legacy too.

First thing.  I blame the city of greensboro.  Haha it took me a half of hour to get to 29.  A&T had the homecoming game, and the road I was on had road construction narrowed it down to one lane at parts.  Road construction needed in the middle of football season c'mon.  Almost didn't make it on time.  I need to be at games early.

My reaction on the game.  What can I say, I had to leave.  Even if it was a good game I couldn't have stayed beacuse of work (Left when it was 49-14).  CNU fans listen up.  I no longer hate you guys.  I think they showed a bit more sportsmanship in the 28-0 wallop, by taking the starters out earlier then AU. (Again I left early, but that was what I was told.)

Pleas roll over AU, CNU.  (Even though I think AU will beat CNU)  AU has speed and size.  CNU just has speed. (Compared to AU)

Eh-you explain the punt return penatly.  GC hit AU guy and got a penalty recovered the fumble.  AU's next punt AU guy did the exact same thing no fumble no penalty.  I think both of them should have had a penalty.

GC did win one thing though.  They finally won the battle of penalties, and I think personal fouls called too.

TO's killed GC again in this game.

AU won it fair and square.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballjoe on October 23, 2006, 09:27:57 AM
My thoughts and prayers are with Coach Tony Perrou's family
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 23, 2006, 11:02:33 AM
I am trying to figure out something.  I am not around the area.  How many High schools are there in NC?  How many football teams make it to the playoffs in NC?

I am talking 1A-3A.  How do they really classify it? Is there 1AA thru 3AA too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 23, 2006, 11:24:42 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 23, 2006, 11:02:33 AM
I am trying to figure out something.  I am not around the area.  How many High schools are there in NC?  How many football teams make it to the playoffs in NC?

I am talking 1A-3A.  How do they really classify it? Is there 1AA thru 3AA too.
Just did a quick look at www.nchsaa.org and it looks like there are about 90 schools per classification with 64 teams making the playoffs per class. Those 64 are then split into two groups of 32 with the 32 larger schools in the A bracket and the 32 smaller in the AA bracket.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2006, 11:32:55 AM
not sure how many schools there are in nc, but the classification is split like this

4a - largest schools
4aa
3a
3aa
2a
2aa
1a
1aa
independents
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 23, 2006, 11:40:54 AM
 Pride
From my experience as a NC coach they have little 4A and Big 4 A. The same for the other levels such as 1A, 2A, 3A. The crux of the problem is schools sizes relative to locations in proximity to each other. Lets take Havelock High and West Carteret in Coastal conf. they are a big 3A with about 1300 kids each. New Bern and Greenville Rose are 4A with close to 2K kids. But they are in the same conference.

So both can compete for the playoff at different levels within the conf. Teams with 3-7 records goes to the 3A playoffs even though the 4A's within their own conference pounds them. As long as they beat the 3A schools in the conf.

It has to do with travel times, (nobody wants to drive to Charlotte) and the politics of Raleigh. Football is one thing with an all day trek but imagine a basketball, soccer, tennis team with 2 or 3 games a week going all the way to Charlotte, Greensboro or Elizabeth City from the 12 miles from the coast. The logistics would be horrible. NC's population and demographics are just a mess. When I played at Havelock in the 70's every school was within an hour and they were the same size. It's just demographics
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2006, 11:41:04 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on October 21, 2006, 10:52:31 PMAlso, I'm kinda interested/stunned/intrigued that CNU had scored only 7 points this weekend by halftime...at home. I didn't hear all the details, but I kind of feel like there might actually be a chink in that armor. It just makes the Nov. 4 showdown all that much more exciting.

legacy - what makes this a "chink" in the cnu armor?  averett only scored 14 first half points against mc, and honestly hardly moved the ball other than the first and last drive of the half (and needed a PERFECT pass from todd parsons into triple coverage on third and 13 to the best wr in the conference to make the last score happen) - not bashing au, because they are a very solid team, but honestly i don't think that their first half performance against mc was any more impressive (other than the fact that they had one more score and were playing on the road...not sure, but i'd be willing to bet they had much less yardage at 1/2 time than cnu did) - if anything, the defensive performance by cnu this weekend and the offensive balance they exhibited (throwing for 250+ and running for 100+...the first team to do that to the monarch defense this year) lead me to believe that they are legit and may be the best team in the conference
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 23, 2006, 12:22:21 PM
The reason I ask is I am trying to compare ratio wise schools per classifaction.  My high school a few year ago had 9-1 and 8-2 teams back in MD and didn't make the playoffs.  They have some cockeyed BCS scoring system.  It was good system, but  they were hurt by it by the teams they played.  For instance my county was small at parts, my high school was a 3A school most of the teams were 2A and 1A schools.  They played each other to determine a county championship.  They were penalized because of it.  It was better to play a below .500 4A school then the top 1A or 2A school.  Across the state this isn't a problem like Baltimore County for intsnace.  At that time only 8 teams per classifaction made the playoffs.  Now it is 16 teams.  Yet my county and close northern county combined to form the Upper Chesapeake Athletic Conference.  The problem with the northern schools is they are all 1A schools, with maybe 1 2A school.  They are still using this BCS system.  I just don't think even with a good record my high school team can get into the playoffs.

By the way just about all those 1A schools are posied to enter into the playoffs this year because of them having to play the 3A and 2A schools in my county.  Even though they have losing records.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 23, 2006, 12:27:24 PM
Pride
SOunds like NC is a little more fair.

Win in your classification and you go.

Beating bigger schools will get you a better seed in the playoffs all thing being equal.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 23, 2006, 12:37:34 PM
Football seems to be different in MD.

Every other sport anybody that wants to play can go in and play.  They do the seeding for those sports the top 4 teams get the top 4 seeds based on how that team plays within the region (i.e 3A North, or East etc.)  the rest are a random draw.  So the number 1 seed could easily play the number top seeds in the region where the number 2 seed could play some of the worst.  I think it is a little lazy in MD.

There has been a basketball team with a losing record to win a state championship. So everyone has a shot.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 23, 2006, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: narch on October 23, 2006, 11:32:55 AM
not sure how many schools there are in nc, but the classification is split like this

4a - largest schools
4aa
3a
3aa
2a
2aa
1a
1aa
independents


Would that mean there could be a 3A state champ and a 3AA state champ?

By the way here is what the current MD BCS looks like for the 3A.  Top 4 teams from the various 3A regions get in for a total of 16.

http://www.mpssaa.org/football/MPSSAA%20Points-06/06-WEEK7/3A.htm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 23, 2006, 12:59:45 PM
Prise
Yes that's correct. Charlotte INDEPENDENCE (the Leak boys) have over 3K kids BIG 4A (I believe) and Havelock when it was 4A for 3 years had 1350 kids. A little difference there huh?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 23, 2006, 01:24:17 PM
Quote from: narch on October 23, 2006, 11:41:04 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on October 21, 2006, 10:52:31 PMAlso, I'm kinda interested/stunned/intrigued that CNU had scored only 7 points this weekend by halftime...at home. I didn't hear all the details, but I kind of feel like there might actually be a chink in that armor. It just makes the Nov. 4 showdown all that much more exciting.

legacy - what makes this a "chink" in the cnu armor?  averett only scored 14 first half points against mc, and honestly hardly moved the ball other than the first and last drive of the half (and needed a PERFECT pass from todd parsons into triple coverage on third and 13 to the best wr in the conference to make the last score happen) - not bashing au, because they are a very solid team, but honestly i don't think that their first half performance against mc was any more impressive (other than the fact that they had one more score and were playing on the road...not sure, but i'd be willing to bet they had much less yardage at 1/2 time than cnu did) - if anything, the defensive performance by cnu this weekend and the offensive balance they exhibited (throwing for 250+ and running for 100+...the first team to do that to the monarch defense this year) lead me to believe that they are legit and may be the best team in the conference

Oh, narch, you're overanalyzing my comment a bit. I meant that as a testiment to how solid Methodist's defense played on the road. As everyone knows, Pomoco Stadium is a brutal place to play for USA South teams. CNU has a tendency to play very well against the conference teams at home, and that's shown by the fact that the Captains haven't lost a home game to a conference team since 2001.

I wasn't trying to draw a direct comparison between CNU, AU or MC. Each game is going to be different. But, although you say that CNU showed an impressive balance in offense this past week, my comment about a "chink in the armor" is based on CNU's history against conference opponents at home.

This year has been the first time since October of 2003 that CNU has scored fewer than 10 points in the first half against a conference opponent at Pomoco. And this year, both Methodist and Greensboro have held the Captains to only 7 first-half points. I understand that the conditions were crummy for the Gboro game, but the only real point I'm trying to make is that there are a lot of teams in this conference that are looking pretty evenly matched on many given Saturdays. And especially, when the AU-CNU game rolls around in two weeks, the aura of Pomoco might not be as intimidating as in past years. But then again, it still might...  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 23, 2006, 02:08:15 PM
The four NC classifications (1A, 2A, 3A, 4A) are based on quartiles of official enrolment, so schools can be reclassified every few years.  If there are 400 HS's in the state, for example, the 100 with the lowest number of students are 1A and the 100 with the largest number of students 4A.  2A and 3A have the two quartiles in between.  There is some room for appeal for natural rivalries and geographic location (travel concerns, etc.).  It is possible, therefore, for the smallest 2A school to only have one more student than the largest 1A school (and likewise in other classifications).  I'm not sure why they split each division in two for football, but there are eight public HS state football champions each season.  There have been two state championships games on the same day at each of the four venues (UNC-CH, NCSU, WFU and Duke).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 23, 2006, 02:48:30 PM
Yea like Hasanova said..............I know that......now.

I was close in a crayon journalistic version sort of way ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 23, 2006, 02:52:06 PM
I just don't know, I guess having 64 teams out 90 from each classifcations seems to be alot.  It looks like MD is understating the playoffs based on that number.  3A level has 46 teams so 32 should be the cutoff then.  if you compare the two on ratios.  I think having 24 would be enough.  Top two seeds in each region having first round byes.

Of note the other sports they used to alternate Home and Away from playoff games.  Very likely that a higher seed would have to go on the road in the first game.  (They counted first round byes as home games)  Man things are so much simplier down here in NC.  I might have to e-mail the sports group that runs the playoffs in MD.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 23, 2006, 02:59:29 PM
Remember one thing Pride.

The state gets a cut of all the playoff games so it helps to have alot of playoffs. They get alot at the state championship games too.

What Hasa mentioned also blows having games at the colleges. it just ruins the night time atmosphere at home when you stuff 8000 people in a stadium made for 4000. Night, cold, loud as hell..........

I saw my high school go 9-1 and sit more than once.

East Carteret (Papi's school) in the 70's would lose one game to Havelock. They sat. I will admit MD does need a overhaul.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2006, 03:18:40 PM
abnrgr hit the nail precisely on the head...it's about revenue generation and participation...so many more kids (and their ticket purchasing parents/friends/family) get to experience playoff football now

having said that, there are too many playoff teams...no team should be allowed to participate in a playoff system with a losing record unless they win their conference

wclegacy...thanks for the clarification - the first time i read it, it bothered me, so i went back and re-read today before responding...i understand what you meant, now :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 23, 2006, 05:08:36 PM
Quote from: narch on October 23, 2006, 11:41:04 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on October 21, 2006, 10:52:31 PMAlso, I'm kinda interested/stunned/intrigued that CNU had scored only 7 points this weekend by halftime...at home. I didn't hear all the details, but I kind of feel like there might actually be a chink in that armor. It just makes the Nov. 4 showdown all that much more exciting.


First 3 CNU possessions ended up in turnovers....2 in the red zone......So, the 7-0 halftime score was not indicative of the way CNU was dominating the game. I was not worried at all at halftime. Narch is right...the 250 yds in the air and Hilliard rushing for 125 more....the Defense was stifling! I knew it was a metter of time before the miscues stopped and CNU started scoring. I also had a strong feeling at halftime that CNU was going to post another shutout......I'm starting to forget about the 3 LBs thqat graduated last year!!! Justin Who??? Thomas Horan is a beast!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 23, 2006, 05:12:56 PM
Good research Legacy...I didn't realize about the 7 points at halftime stats. Like I said in an earlier post, 3 turnovers on the first 3 drives sometimes kill teams and if CNU was playing a top 20 team, those turnovers produce the L.

Let's hope they have it straight now....these next 3 games make me nervous. UNCW...4 losses by a combined 10 points!!! And we play in their house.

AU - tough team...glad we're at home

FC - was picked to win the conference, not doing so well right now....what a way to end a disappointing season, by going into POMOCO and beating CNU!!!

nervous nervous nervous!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 23, 2006, 05:25:38 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 23, 2006, 05:08:36 PM

I was not worried at all at halftime. I knew it was a metter of time before the miscues stopped and CNU started scoring. I also had a strong feeling at halftime that CNU was going to post another shutout.

I looked up definition of Sleepwalking in dictionary and saw a picture of CNU's football team.

We played great in first half of maryville and then set the autopilot in the third quarter.

We played great in the first three possessions against Methodist.  Multiple formations and good chunks of yards on each play.  The Methodist D had to be wondering what was going to happen from play to play.  Definitely on their heals.  BUT we turned the ball over 3 times instead of scoring.  It seemed that the result of the game was a foregone conclusion in the first quarter.  Everyone even the CNU team just kind of relaxed.  Yes CNU won and that is all that matters short term.  I hope they get there heads on straight and keep fired up for the whole game at NCWC.  3 scary games left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on October 23, 2006, 05:33:55 PM
On the bright side, Faison looked really good.  He threw 2 beautiful bombs right over the receivers shoulder.  One of which went a good 45 yards in the air into double coverage.  Also threw some ropes on comeback routes.  A good day for him.  Keep progressing and CNU won't be a running one trick pony come playoff time.  I like our chances down the stretch.


TO CNU TEAM:   It is not enough to just show up.  Ask the seniors.  Even if the first quarter is a blow out on paper.  there are 3 more.  and paper only counts for those running a pole.   Crush them, demoralize them, until the final whistle sounds.  Do that and You will win the final 3 games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 23, 2006, 06:38:25 PM
Quote from: narch on October 23, 2006, 03:18:40 PM
abnrgr hit the nail precisely on the head...it's about revenue generation and participation...so many more kids (and their ticket purchasing parents/friends/family) get to experience playoff football now

having said that, there are too many playoff teams...no team should be allowed to participate in a playoff system with a losing record unless they win their conference

I guess MD feels the money generators are women's volleyball, and the soccer teams (Fall sport like it should be.) and Field Hockey. (Although a little congrats to Alice Puckett Field Hockey coach at my high school got her 300 win last week.  For a record of 300-58-1.  WOW and 9 state titles. Poised to get her 10th. Team is ranked #2. She was Bridegewater Grad. and was inducted into BC hall fame this year.)

The MD playoff system is slowy getting better. They might need Narch to set them straight. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on October 23, 2006, 08:37:37 PM
I wouldn't go on ranting about forgetting about the linebackers of last year.  Wood led the team in tackles all 4 years he played at CNU.  Thomas Horan is what like 10th on the team in tackles.  I think the LB's have played great this year and hope they keep it up but Horan may be third or fourth best out of this year's LB's.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2006, 09:40:01 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 23, 2006, 06:38:25 PM
I guess MD feels the money generators are women's volleyball, and the soccer teams (Fall sport like it should be.) and Field Hockey.

no offense to field hockey and soccer and volleyball, but all of those games combined aren't drawing 2-3,000+ fans, unless there is something i don't know about those sports in md - as an aside, field hockey is one of the most boring games ever invented...to much stopping and starting...unwatchable, if you ask me
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 23, 2006, 10:01:41 PM
Quote from: narch on October 23, 2006, 09:40:01 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 23, 2006, 06:38:25 PM
I guess MD feels the money generators are women's volleyball, and the soccer teams (Fall sport like it should be.) and Field Hockey.

no offense to field hockey and soccer and volleyball, but all of those games combined aren't drawing 2-3,000+ fans, unless there is something i don't know about those sports in md - as an aside, field hockey is one of the most boring games ever invented...to much stopping and starting...unwatchable, if you ask me

I was trying to be sarcastic with that.  I would agree Field Hockey is too much stopping and starting.  Not so unwatchable at my high school because they are so talented.  A few years ago they had a record stopped with 3 straight years without allowing a goal in county play. :o  OT games are the best especially once it gets to 2OT. Taking one player off the field, plus no one who was in the first OT can be in the 2nd OT.  Depth is so important in Field Hockey.

See I don't have much to root for now until USASAC starts basketball season. :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 24, 2006, 12:13:55 AM
WCLegacy the main thing you are failing to realize is that the last two teams to visit Pomoco also left with a goose egg. A safety or a field goal can win a ball game and the Captain D have come up big at home this year.  Pomoco is becoming one of the most dangerous places to play in Va football (maybe pushing it a bit)lol.

Lol you can't forget the guys from last year. Ive been to a few games this year and the biggest thing the new guys are missing is playing on the other side and delivering punishing hits.  The 3 studs from last year changed game plans they were just hampered by having a young D-line in front of them.  Not saying this years group is not good but they have a long way to go before being mentioned in a sentence with those guys.

Hey 85, Rob or J-lo D POY. Close call but like I said earlier this year don't throw at the kid and he always comes up with the big play in the clutch. The Captains were up 14-0 but that pick shut the door on any comeback hope.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on October 24, 2006, 09:00:22 AM
Narch- we had our coaches meeting a week ago and the new talk in North Carolina is that we are trying to adapt the new 5a class system. This is going to happen to get the charlottle schools out of 4a and have them play themselves in their own conference. My school is now 3a with 1380 kids right now, and in two years the talk of the town was we are moving to 4a. Now with this new 5a system they are trying, it would put us staying in 3a which is where we belong.

Pridesports- Yes we do have two champions now. 3a has a champ and 3aa has a champ. Last year a team from our conference, asheville, won the 3aa championship. I think the system ought to make the 3a and the 3aa play each other for one cham, but thats just me.

Monarchs took a tough loss, i thought they had a greta chance and defense played extremely well. I know i picked them to win in the points spread, but thats the only reason was to cover the points, i knew that if they won, it would only be by a few points, not 21 like the spread called for. So i was clearing up any confusion about why i picked methco to loose, and thats it was because of the spread. I think they will do fine against maryville, but i know maryville will be ready to play to avenge the comeback we had on them to win last year. Both teams will be hungry for a win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on October 24, 2006, 09:45:48 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 24, 2006, 12:13:55 AM
WCLegacy the main thing you are failing to realize is that the last two teams to visit Pomoco also left with a goose egg. A safety or a field goal can win a ball game and the Captain D have come up big at home this year. 

That's going to change soon enough. I'm not predicting anything crazy - I've said before that CNU is a favorite to win Nov. 4 but a safety or field goal WILL NOT be enough to beat Averett.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 24, 2006, 12:17:06 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 24, 2006, 12:13:55 AM
WCLegacy the main thing you are failing to realize is that the last two teams to visit Pomoco also left with a goose egg. A safety or a field goal can win a ball game and the Captain D have come up big at home this year.  Pomoco is becoming one of the most dangerous places to play in Va football (maybe pushing it a bit)lol.

OK, let me explain something. My comments were focused on CNU's offense versus opponents' defenses. I didn't "fail to realize" the point that you made. Your remarks pertained to CNU's defense. We're talking about two sides of the same coin. I don't think I've ever short-changed CNU's defense. They're nothing short of scary good.

Our points aren't mutually exclusive. And I do agree with Eh-You that I don't think CNU will be able to shut out Averett. I expect Averett to put up at least 17 points. Now I'm not going to say that that will be enough to win the game, but I think AU will be able to score on the Captains.

Pomoco is without a doubt one of the most dangerous places in Virginia to play...though I think Salem will always be the toughest.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 24, 2006, 01:27:08 PM
Quote from: CaptainChris on October 23, 2006, 08:37:37 PM
I wouldn't go on ranting about forgetting about the linebackers of last year.  Wood led the team in tackles all 4 years he played at CNU.  Thomas Horan is what like 10th on the team in tackles.  I think the LB's have played great this year and hope they keep it up but Horan may be third or fourth best out of this year's LB's.

Yeah, you're right....last year's guys were pretty special. I guess my point is that the LB opsition is SSOOOOO important to a defense, and I was extremely worried that this year would be CNU's biggest challenge in the short history of the program....but the way the new guys have stepped to the plate...it's just plain awesome!! Those LBs are all over the place. As one LB said in the paper...the D-Line has a lot to do with it, especially when he didn't have an O-lineman on him all day!

You can't forget Woods, Morse, and Freeman..........but I have yet to wacth a game and say, "I wish they were back". The guys in there now are taking care of bidness!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on October 24, 2006, 09:16:29 PM
Pics of the SU vs NCWC available for those who like pics. http://www.fivemics.net/Shenandoah-2006.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 25, 2006, 10:18:31 AM
Forgot to mention looks like Duke covered the spread against Miami.  From what I heard Duke should have won.  I didn't see the game though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 25, 2006, 01:12:01 PM
Pride
They were leading and driving when the QB threw a pick that went 98 yards the other way. Typical. The only reason I watch Duke is one our (Havelock) Corners played for them, Temo George. He has graduated...thank God
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on October 25, 2006, 01:22:00 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 24, 2006, 09:45:48 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 24, 2006, 12:13:55 AM
WCLegacy the main thing you are failing to realize is that the last two teams to visit Pomoco also left with a goose egg. A safety or a field goal can win a ball game and the Captain D have come up big at home this year. 

That's going to change soon enough. I'm not predicting anything crazy - I've said before that CNU is a favorite to win Nov. 4 but a safety or field goal WILL NOT be enough to beat Averett.

Eh-you,

why no faith? After watching the cougars beat the pride the way they did I think they will beat CNU, not taking away from the Captins obviously worthy of thier ranking

Everyone keeps saying all CNU needs is a field goal or Safety to win at Pomoco all the while forgeting the Averett Defense/special teams is averaging 5 points a game. point being CNU's offense still will need to score on the cougars Defense
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 25, 2006, 01:38:43 PM
I guess everybody is writting off Averett even though they haven't even taken the field yet against CNU. I hope everyone who has penciled CNU
in as the USAC rep. doesn't have to eat any crow. I know we are the
underdogs and even a lose to CNU won't make this season a bad one.

I just hope Averett is able to show the conference and everyone else
what they really have (18 or 19 Seniors and about the same number in
1st, 2nd and Honorable mention All Conference players from last year) and they only need to get all the "T" crossed and I's Dotted at the same time. As I mentioned on one of the other post earlier, if Averett ever hits full
throttle this year, someone better watch out. I hope Averett and CNU both
go into the Nov 4th game undefeated in the Conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 25, 2006, 02:40:12 PM
I agree that the CNU/ AU game on Nov. 4 should be a great game. Yet, I believe it might be unwise for them to overlook any of the other teams from the conference that they still have to play. If we have seen anything this year in the conference it is that anyone can beat anyone else. Not many thought that Maryville would put up 31 on CNU, yet they did( I know that they did not win but it was better than being beat by 51 like last year). Also, I have to like Maryville's chances to end the season againest AU, the past two meetings have been great. close games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 25, 2006, 02:53:40 PM
Highlander -  Totally agree with you and you are correct about the AU -
Maryville game. Last year was my first game as a parent at Maryville
(what a beautiful campus) It was a great game that went down to the
final second. From what I saw last year and have read lately, Maryville
is only a slight turn from being one of the top dogs in the conference
going forward. You certainly made CNU think a little.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2006, 04:33:02 PM
I don't think anyone on the CNU team or the coaches are pencilling in a W on the AU game......they are pretty adament about 1 week at a time and are not even thinking about AU yet! They're focused on this Saturday right now.

OH  - and I was told I had to be specific about which GC team I was talking about when I responded to NArch's post by saying GC sucks.....

we were mostly talking about football and hoops in the conversation stream.....but I did some research on men's sports at GC .....

Football...we all know their record this year
Soccer - 7-8-1
Tennis 4-11
Baseball...27-16....they don't suck!

I hope that clarifies it for a particular person!  ;D

did ya like that Narch??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on October 25, 2006, 06:17:25 PM
Quote from: Highlander on October 25, 2006, 02:40:12 PM
I have to like Maryville's chances to end the season againest AU, the past two meetings have been great. close games.

WHAT?? A few points about my disagreement:
1. Will it even matter? If AU beats CNU  don't they lock up a Pool A bid? They can put their JV's in and still go to the playoffs
2. If it does matter - kickerdad makes lots of references to wanting to see AU hit on all cylinders - if they have a home game and they have to beat Maryville to go to the playoffs for the first time in history - GAME OVER!! You'll see all cylinders then.
3. It's at home. AU is a completely different animal at home.

I agree about overlooking teams other than CNU but I think @ SU is the upset special. Tough place to play, (AU's never won there), night game, (didn't do so hot @ Greensboro last year under the lights), no telling how freaking cold its going to be in Winchester @ 7:00 pm. If the Maryville game matters THEY HAVE NO CHANCE - if it doesn't matter then IT DOESN'T MATTER.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 25, 2006, 08:05:31 PM
I will tell you all this.....I am sooooooooooooooo worried about this weekend's game between the Captains and the Bishops. You have no idea how worried I am that CNU could go down and lay an egg!! I certainly do not hope that it happens. The Bishops have a lot of talent and played extremely well at Shenandoah last weekend. They have some talent and I'm very afraid!! If the Captains win, then Ill chime in on all the smack talk goin on for the AU/CNU game!! Im making plans now to hopefully attend the CNU/AU game. Have to make sure things are squared away on the home front first.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 25, 2006, 09:46:59 PM
2005-2006 President Cup Standings            
                         
                          Total

CNU               79
Methodist               72.5
Greensboro          67.5
Ferrum               40.5
Averett               40
NC Wesleyan       37.5
Shenandoah        31.5
Peace              17.5  Women teams only
Maryville              3 Football only

The top 3 have been the top 3 since 2001-2002.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 25, 2006, 09:59:03 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 25, 2006, 09:46:59 PM
The top 3 have been the top 3 since 2001-2002.

methodist or cnu has won every single overall presidents cup since 1984 (with cnu getting the lions share)-  additionally mc and cnu have finished higher than gc in the national director's cup standings every year for at least the last 10 years...so in relation to mc and cnu, what '85 said is spot on :)

by the way, m'ville scares the heck out of me this weekend...they were able to put up 31 on the captains, and the monarchs couldn't do jack...should be a great game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on October 25, 2006, 10:31:25 PM
Don't CNU, Methodist, and Greensboro have like 90 zillion more sports than everyone else?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 25, 2006, 11:36:01 PM
Eh-you

The sports are all over the place.  Schools have different sports teams outside of the conference.  Only conference supported sports are used to figure out cup standings.  SU, CNU has field hockey not included in the President cup standings.  GC has men's lacrosse. (I believe that is the only sport that GC has outiside of the conference.)
Quote from: narch on October 25, 2006, 09:59:03 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 25, 2006, 09:46:59 PM
The top 3 have been the top 3 since 2001-2002.
national director's cup standings

Of course GC will finish lower then CNU and MC in the national director cup standings ??? (If they don't win the conference cup.  No way they can finish above them.

What are you trying to say Narch?  I am not clear on that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 26, 2006, 06:56:54 AM
Eh- You,

I know that most teams seem to play better at home. I hope that AU is hitting on all cylinders when they play CNU, that would definitely make it a truly great game. In regards to the Maryville game, they have been to play at Averett, two years ago. If I remember corrertly the game went to double overtime before AU pulled out the win. I know that Maryville is concerned with finishing the game they have this week with Methodist.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on October 26, 2006, 09:50:36 AM
Highlander - the game will NOT matter one bit. Its about Nov 4 @ CNU. As for  what happened two years ago, it doesn't matter either. That AU team and this AU team is like apples and oranges. I sort of wish the Maryville game would matter so the Scots can get a taste of the Cougars speed and talent. But that doesn't take away from what I think are great steps that the Maryville program has taken. Nothing but respect for Maryville, their just not there yet.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 26, 2006, 10:12:59 AM
I never said all cnu needed was a field goal or a safety to beat AU.  I was simply making a statement of how good the d has played while the offense has been working out their kinks. But its whatever we are talking AU CNU like both teams don't have another game this week.  NCW is on the clock so lets stay focused on the task at hand Captain fans.

Rikki tavi why are you so worried about this years Caps. They have done a really good job of taking it one game at a time.  So have faith they were not picked to be where they are right now so I think that chip on their shoulder is a driving force.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 26, 2006, 10:41:42 AM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 25, 2006, 06:17:25 PM
Quote from: Highlander on October 25, 2006, 02:40:12 PM
I have to like Maryville's chances to end the season againest AU, the past two meetings have been great. close games.

WHAT?? A few points about my disagreement:
1. Will it even matter? If AU beats CNU  don't they lock up a Pool A bid? They can put their JV's in and still go to the playoffs

I'll give you a senario where it will matter. If Averett does beat CNU then they better win thier last game as well. I can gaurantee a 3 loss Averett team with a Pool A bid would be the #8 seed in the South region. That will get you a return trip to Wesley or even worse a flight to Texas. I know the playoffs are the playoffs, but if I were Averett I would prefer going to play at W&L or W&J and delaying that Wesley rematch a week or two. IMHO!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 26, 2006, 10:50:20 AM
Eh-You- Never did I say that the Scots are "there yet". I believe that each of the games till the end of the season are all very important for everyone. In my reference to the Scots and Cougars match up I was baseing my statement on several factors like- previous results(years), stats, and also common opponents. Right now my only concern is that the Scots go into every game focused on the task at hand. AU has shown that they have improved every year, this is the year (hopefully) where the Scots can learn to be competitive with the top teams in the conference. As for CNU/ AU, CNU has and is the team that everyone must use as a measuring stick for their respective programs.

Narch, if last year was any type of indication of the Scots vs. the Monarchs this game could certainly turn into another classic. Maybe, the Scots could return the favor. (JK).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 26, 2006, 10:55:57 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 26, 2006, 10:12:59 AM
I never said all cnu needed was a field goal or a safety to beat AU.  I was simply making a statement of how good the d has played while the offense has been working out their kinks. But its whatever we are talking AU CNU like both teams don't have another game this week.  NCW is on the clock so lets stay focused on the task at hand Captain fans.

Rikki tavi why are you so worried about this years Caps. They have done a really good job of taking it one game at a time.  So have faith they were not picked to be where they are right now so I think that chip on their shoulder is a driving force.

Im worried about the NC Wesleyan game, 54. Im not worried about the team in general, im worried at the potential that NCW brings. They have a wealth of talent and playing on the road against a team like that is very scarey. If CNU wins, then Ill worry about the Averett game that is basically for all the marbles, but we will leave on the back burner until about 4 or 5 pm this Saturday night.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on October 26, 2006, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 26, 2006, 10:41:42 AM
I'll give you a senario where it will matter. If Averett does beat CNU then they better win thier last game as well. I can gaurantee a 3 loss Averett team with a Pool A bid would be the #8 seed in the South region. That will get you a return trip to Wesley or even worse a flight to Texas. I know the playoffs are the playoffs, but if I were Averett I would prefer going to play at W&L or W&J and delaying that Wesley rematch a week or two. IMHO!

Thanks for that input Llama. Your experience in the playoff scene will help shape my views. Highlander - I take it back - It matters. Llama, what type of seed / scenario do you see unfolding for AU if they win out?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 26, 2006, 01:16:39 PM
I have to agree with Rikki_Tikki_Tavi ... Averett traveled to Rocky Mount
two weeks ago and for what ever reason (taken NCW for granted, too long of a bus ride that morning, being just plain flat or NCW being good) Averett
walked into a fired up NCW team that had Averett on the ropes until late
in the game.

NCW has some strong talent and their QB is as dangerous as Pitts from
Ferrum. Lucky for Averett he couldn't hold on to the ball when he needed
to and thank God the Averett OL woke up there at the end and started
allow Wilson holes to run through.

I want to see CNU win just so the game with Averett next week will be
everything its cracked up to be. But serioiusly CNU better have their
attitudes and game faces right otherwise NCW will ruin CNU's run for the glory.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 26, 2006, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 26, 2006, 11:53:21 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on October 26, 2006, 10:41:42 AM
I'll give you a senario where it will matter. If Averett does beat CNU then they better win thier last game as well. I can gaurantee a 3 loss Averett team with a Pool A bid would be the #8 seed in the South region. That will get you a return trip to Wesley or even worse a flight to Texas. I know the playoffs are the playoffs, but if I were Averett I would prefer going to play at W&L or W&J and delaying that Wesley rematch a week or two. IMHO!

Thanks for that input Llama. Your experience in the playoff scene will help shape my views. Highlander - I take it back - It matters. Llama, what type of seed / scenario do you see unfolding for AU if they win out?

Eh You,
Its really too early to call. If W&L,W&J,HSU,Dickinson, and Trinity also win out I can still see Averett at 7 or 8. In reality the seedings means nothing unless you are a high seed, then you host the game. Tradition has been set that the Texas teams stay south in the first round, even if they are all in the Top 5 seeds for the South. The way I see it stacking up now if Averett beats CNU is as follows:
There would be 6 teams in the Northern part of the South region with enough cred. to make the playoffs, CNU, Averett, W&J, W&L, Dickinson, and Wesley. Add to that Hardin-Simmons, Trinity, & UMHB in the southern half. There are several ways to fill out the Texas half of the bracket and that is where it gets dicey! If Carnegie Mellon gets in they could send them to Texas, shift Dickinson and W&J to the East or North bracket and let Wesley, CNU, W&L, and Averett play their first two rounds here. I could also see if either CNU or Averett has the #8 seed and CMU is not in the South bracket, they keep W&J or Dickinson here, and send either CNU or Averett to Texas for a first round game. Too much football to be played but it atleast gives you a little feel about playoff history and travel in the South region. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on October 26, 2006, 04:58:15 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 26, 2006, 01:16:39 PM

I want to see CNU win just so the game with Averett next week will be
everything its cracked up to be. But serioiusly CNU better have their
attitudes and game faces right otherwise NCW will ruin CNU's run for the glory.

Kickerdad I have to disagree. Let's assume CNU gets blown out by 70 against NCW. They'll have one loss. If they beat AU the next week then both teams will have one loss and CNU wins the head to head tiebreaker. If CNU loses to NCW (which I don't see happening) and AU beats CNU then AU wins it all. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS this week it all comes down to Nov. 4 @CNU. It already is everything its cracked up to be!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 26, 2006, 05:24:48 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 25, 2006, 11:36:01 PM
Of course GC will finish lower then  CNU and MC in the national director cup standings ??? (If they don't win the conference cup.  No way they can finish above them.

What are you trying to say Narch?  I am not clear on that.

it's obvious you don't understand the director's cup...conference regular season finishes have nothing to do with the director's cup standings, it's all about national post-season finishes - virtually every year mc has finished behind cnu in the president's cup standings, they have finished ahead of cnu in the director's cup standings 

and the word is THAN...learn it, use it, show your intelligence
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 26, 2006, 08:07:46 PM
Well I guess I don't understand the national cup, but I do understand the conference cup, and that has everything to do with season finishes.  Either way, there is no way GC can finish ahead of the others if they finish 3rd, because there is no way they are getting to postseason play. To even be in the running for national cup.  So therefore like I said they can't finish ahead of CNU and MC.

I think GC has only 2 more sports that aren't in the cup runnings in the conference M LAX, and W Swimming.  I am not sure the other sports that CNU or MC has that might give them an edge nationally.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 26, 2006, 09:34:26 PM
CNU has an Ice Hockey team!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 26, 2006, 10:05:18 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 26, 2006, 01:16:39 PM
I have to agree with Rikki_Tikki_Tavi ... Averett traveled to Rocky Mount
two weeks ago and for what ever reason (taken NCW for granted, too long of a bus ride that morning, being just plain flat or NCW being good) Averett
walked into a fired up NCW team that had Averett on the ropes until late
in the game.

Let me give you a little time line on the 06 CNU team.

Came into this years season not picked to win the conference.

Big ? mark on how they would ever replace the 3 lbs on defense.

Big ? mark of what the He$$ Kelchner was thinking when he lost 3 stud lbs 2 being All Americans and decided to put nationally powerhouse run teams on the schedule MHB/SU.

Being written off by critics after the embarrassing loss to Rowan.

All the 06 Captains did was go 6-1 against a brutal top heavy schedule ( the first 3 weeks ).  You got people talking about chinks in our armour. I think NCW and the rest of the conference should be more worried about this Captain team more so then years past.  While this Captain team is not as dominate in some areas and since teams don't fear this team like some of our teams in the past.  I personally think that it makes this years team even more dangerous.  The 2 conference losses really hurt the Captain pride and I think game by game this years team goal is to recapture all of what was lost last season and accomplish even more.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 26, 2006, 10:15:19 PM
Personally, as a GC fan, I'm more worried about Ferrum this week THAN (for you, narch) anyone else!  :P

Do you think Homecoming means anything special to The Pride players? I hope so . . . >:(

You heard it here first - Greensboro will beat Furrem!!  :D

Really have nothing much to say - just bored and waiting for Saturday Night . . . must be nice to talk about your team and a possible post-season game. Must be really nice . . .   :(



RUN, PRIDE, RUN ! ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 26, 2006, 11:50:29 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 25, 2006, 01:12:01 PM
Pride
They were leading and driving when the QB threw a pick that went 98 yards the other way. Typical. The only reason I watch Duke is one our (Havelock) Corners played for them, Temo George. He has graduated...thank God

abn...it always seemed like Havelock had one of them George boys that could bring the hat every year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2006, 08:46:04 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 26, 2006, 10:05:18 PM

Let me give you a little time line on the 06 CNU team.

Came into this years season not picked to win the conference.

Big ? mark on how they would ever replace the 3 lbs on defense.

Big ? mark of what the He$$ Kelchner was thinking when he lost 3 stud lbs 2 being All Americans and decided to put nationally powerhouse run teams on the schedule MHB/SU.

Being written off by critics after the embarrassing loss to Rowan.

All the 06 Captains did was go 6-1 against a brutal top heavy schedule ( the first 3 weeks ).  You got people talking about chinks in our armour. I think NCW and the rest of the conference should be more worried about this Captain team more so then years past.  While this Captain team is not as dominate in some areas and since teams don't fear this team like some of our teams in the past.  I personally think that it makes this years team even more dangerous.  The 2 conference losses really hurt the Captain pride and I think game by game this years team goal is to recapture all of what was lost last season and accomplish even more.

Do I hear an AMEN!!??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 27, 2006, 10:39:30 AM
Let me give you a little time line on the 06 CNU team.

Came into this years season not picked to win the conference.

Big ? mark on how they would ever replace the 3 lbs on defense.

Big ? mark of what the He$$ Kelchner was thinking when he lost 3 stud lbs 2 being All Americans and decided to put nationally powerhouse run teams on the schedule MHB/SU.

Being written off by critics after the embarrassing loss to Rowan.

All the 06 Captains did was go 6-1 against a brutal top heavy schedule ( the first 3 weeks ).  You got people talking about chinks in our armour. I think NCW and the rest of the conference should be more worried about this Captain team more so then years past.  While this Captain team is not as dominate in some areas and since teams don't fear this team like some of our teams in the past.  I personally think that it makes this years team even more dangerous.  The 2 conference losses really hurt the Captain pride and I think game by game this years team goal is to recapture all of what was lost last season and accomplish even more.

To the CNU guys 54 & 85, I apologize if my post about CNU looking ahead, upset you guys. All I was trying to say that with what I could consider a huge game next week if Averett came to town tied with CNU for the conference, that it would or could be possible for CNU to look ahead and get caught down against NCW. NCW certainly has the talent to  do it
if CNU feel into that pattern.

I am from the Hampton Roads area and have followed CNU since the beginning and have never doubted that they wouldn't be in the hunt for the championship of the conference in any given year. I know what kind of talent they have recruited, especially from that area.

You are right CNU wasn't picked to win the conference this year, but hell, they were only 2 points away from Ferrum. Anybody with common sense would know that CNU would be right there when time for the "fat lady" to sing. I don't think anyone wrote CNU off after losing to Rowan. We certainly didn't write off Averett after getting blown to hell by Mr. Union, (although some folks in the conference thought Averet was crazy and was out of it after the MU game). I wouldn't say your loss to Rowan was embarrassing compared to Averett's loss to MU. Every team gets it pride hurt when they
lose, regardless if it is conference or out of conference. CNU has nothing to
be ashamed of.

Finally one word of caution, don't let the fact that CNU has been dominating the conference with exception of last year, that the rest
of the conference will lay down just because you walk on the field. They are on the same mission as CNU, they are not going to worry about you anymore this year than they have in the past. You are the MU of the USA
South and until you go to the bottom of the well or stay off the mountain
for more than 3 or 4 years, then you will always have that respect by each
team. But don't get big headed like Va Tech fans and expect everyone to worry about you and lay down for you. The mission for everyone else is
to knock you off the mountain. You will be the king until someone does it, continue to be a gracious winner as well as a gracious loser.

Good luck in Rocky Mount and next week is as exciting as everyone thinks
it will be.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 27, 2006, 11:14:03 AM
Great Post Kicker Dad.
Sorry but I have not earned the right to give Karma
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2006, 11:39:18 AM
I couldn't agree with you mor Kickerdad...other than the part that said I was upset. I agree that CNU will be in trouble if they look past NCW. I also know Coach K and that will not be allowed to happen!

Every game from here on out has me nervous....NCW because they are talented and young and IF CNU does look ahead...ouch.

AU - because that will be for the Pool A bid

Ferrum - because one day they are going to wake up!

Add to all of the above what you were saying about CNU has a huge target on their backs.

But I truly believe one of the main reasons CNU does well every year is that the coaching staff is without a doubt the best in the conference and I'd have to say (with limited exposure to other programs) top to bottom, one of the best in the country. Coach K and his staff will not allow CNU to look ahead or to enter a game unprepared. If CNU gets beat in one of the last 3 games it will be becuase the other team brought the "A" game in every aspect...game prep, making every play, coaching adjustments, etc.

Damn...isn't this fun???? Better than saying, "wait until next year"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 27, 2006, 12:49:11 PM

HEY!!  Just wait until next year . . . . .  :P



RUN, PRIDE, RUN ! ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on October 27, 2006, 01:41:05 PM
kickerdad, great post. CNU will be in very big trouble if they look past ncwc. Wesleyan has a good defense, but so does cnu. It will not be a high scoring game i dont think. They both like to run the ball.

I think CNU felt like this year they had alot to prove after not winning the conference last year. When we beat them last year though, that team showed alot of class and sportsmanship. CNU is a classy program up there and i think kelchner is a good coach who has team control. I still cannot wait until the matchup with AU and CNU that is going to be  a showdown and if they both win the next week, then it will be to finally see who is the real conference champs. Never have there been one winnner outright for the conference and i truly feel this year, there very well might be just that.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 27, 2006, 01:41:34 PM
here are my predictions for the week:

fc 38 - gc 27: the panthers will run all over the pride

au 42 - su 17: the cougars will not be caught napping

cnu 24 - ncwc 13: neither will the captains, but ncwc is better than su

mc 24 - m'ville 20: i think this will be a close, exciting game, but the monarchs will pull out another close "w" against the scots...unfortunately, i won't be there...got some things to do with the family, but it should be a great game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2006, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: MCol51 on October 27, 2006, 01:41:05 PM
kickerdad, great post. CNU will be in very big trouble if they look past ncwc. Wesleyan has a good defense, but so does cnu. It will not be a high scoring game i dont think. They both like to run the ball.

I think CNU felt like this year they had alot to prove after not winning the conference last year. When we beat them last year though, that team showed alot of class and sportsmanship. CNU is a classy program up there and i think kelchner is a good coach who has team control. I still cannot wait until the matchup with AU and CNU that is going to be  a showdown and if they both win the next week, then it will be to finally see who is the real conference champs. Never have there been one winnner outright for the conference and i truly feel this year, there very well might be just that.



It's good to hear that my money and support is going towards a program that is viewed as a class act...thanks!!!

After the stumble last year and the loss of some very key players, I was nervous about this year and thought that this year would be Kelchner's toughest test in his head coaching career. 3 games to go, but his interim report card shows an A+.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on October 27, 2006, 03:59:03 PM
Quote from: narch on October 27, 2006, 01:41:34 PM
here are my predictions for the week:

fc 38 - gc 27: the panthers will run all over the pride

au 42 - su 17: the cougars will not be caught napping

cnu 24 - ncwc 13: neither will the captains, but ncwc is better than su

mc 24 - m'ville 20: i think this will be a close, exciting game, but the monarchs will pull out another close "w" against the scots...unfortunately, i won't be there...got some things to do with the family, but it should be a great game!

I dont belive the panthers will roll all over us....IF we loose it will be a close game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2006, 04:03:40 PM
hoh-mmmm....hoh-mmmm......

mentally preparing my GC loss crystal ball!!!

Here we go....

Ferrum - 34
Greensboro - 14

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2006, 07:13:09 PM
looks like CNU gets to play another game in the rain!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 27, 2006, 08:28:57 PM
The rain will be gone by the morning CNU 85. I just checked the forecast, although they are calling for heavy rain tonight. I also heard there is a high school game going on on the same field tonight, in the rain! So tomorrow, the field could inevitably (sp) be like crap-ola. It will definitely be soggy. But they are calling for partly cloudy skies with a temp around 67 and 20-30 mph winds!! That could play havoc with the passing and kicking games of both teams.

So I was looking at the stats and it really doesnt hurt NCW but so much. They are the conference's top rated passing offense and CNU is the conference's top rated pass defense. However, NCW does average 185 yards on the ground, so they arent totally descimated by having its passing game grounded. CNU does average 157 thru the air and only 110 on the ground, but its their defense that's going to have to step up and stop the run. Its going to be interesting if indeed the winds are that gusty. I for one cant wait to see the outcome of this one. Should make for an interesting contest to say the least.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2006, 09:11:14 PM
RTT - now I know who you are..Evan Stuart from the 13 news weatherlab!! What's the temp in Melfa? And why does anybody care what the temp is in Melfa?


;D :D ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 27, 2006, 09:29:04 PM
85...I thought you were the all knowing being  ;) so tell us what the weather will be tomorrow!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on October 27, 2006, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 27, 2006, 08:28:57 PM
The rain will be gone by the morning CNU 85. I just checked the forecast, although they are calling for heavy rain tonight. I also heard there is a high school game going on on the same field tonight, in the rain! So tomorrow, the field could inevitably (sp) be like crap-ola. It will definitely be soggy. But they are calling for partly cloudy skies with a temp around 67 and 20-30 mph winds!! That could play havoc with the passing and kicking games of both teams.

I am sitting here in Rocky Mount.  The HS game was postponed till Monday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2006, 09:39:41 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on October 27, 2006, 09:29:04 PM
85...I thought you were the all knowing being  ;) so tell us what the weather will be tomorrow!!!

tomorrow is too far in the future....tonight's weather forecast...

continued dark with patches of light towards morning!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 28, 2006, 07:22:50 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on October 27, 2006, 03:59:03 PMI dont belive the panthers will roll all over us....IF we loose it will be a close game

i do...good to see you join us gullett...i thought you had jumped ship on your pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 28, 2006, 09:32:55 AM
he didn't jump.....he was on the end of the plank at gunpoint!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 28, 2006, 10:18:06 AM
I thought he was down in the bilges, bailing out water trying to keep her afloat  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on October 28, 2006, 10:39:00 AM
AU- 42 SU-7- The cougars have been preparing all week for the cold weather and should be ready to win at Shentel

CNU-21 NCWC-13- Wesleyan will surprise some people today by running effectivly and pulling the linebacker and secondary of the captains in, but CNU will have too much going for them with thier team speed.

GC-10 FC-34- look for pitts and the panthers to open up this week

MC-28 M'ville-14-with AU and CNU behind Methodist they will play with more confidence and win easily
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 28, 2006, 04:17:12 PM
Any updates on today's games?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 28, 2006, 04:20:59 PM
want an update here is one.

NCWC 46 CNU 28...with 1:03 left it looks like.

Based on USAS Daily report.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 28, 2006, 04:21:58 PM
What about Methodist?  Any scores.

Looks like 30-26 Maryville over Methodist, based on Maryville's website.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 28, 2006, 04:49:47 PM
A real game next week for the USASAC!

A must win for both!  I don't think that either team should count on a Pool C bid!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 28, 2006, 04:50:23 PM
the m'ville/mc score is official - looks like the scots did a great job containing hill today, holding him to 50 yards on 30 attempts...parks had a nice day, leading the monarchs in rushing and throwing for 228 and 2 td's, but he did have 2 int's, one of which came when the monarchs had the ball with 2:25 left and a chance to drive for the winning score (according to the play-by-play in the box score) - m'ville didn't have a turnover today, and that seems to be the difference in the game, looking at the stats

good win for the scots...i knew they were dangerous, but i thought the monarchs had a win in 'em...gotta win 2 straight to salvage the season

box score (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2006%20Stats/mc1028.htm#GAME.TEM)

how about ncwc throwing a wrench into the nov 4 matchup with averett...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on October 28, 2006, 05:27:52 PM
Narch, Parks is going to be really good.  Things didn't end the way the Monarchs would have liked, but they have to be happy with the QB situation.  Pat Doleman made some unbelievable catches today too.  It is almost a burden to have so many good wrs because he could be a showcase kind of guy.  Parks has some good weapons for next year.  It should be a much better year.  Well next week is big with the recruiting battle so I'll be there to support those Monarchs.  Good luck boys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 28, 2006, 05:40:48 PM
Rocket...I'll see you there next weekend. BBallGuy if you hang around I'll even buy you a drink after the game.

Seems like all year the Monarchs have had problems putting together a total offensive game.  Either we have a good day on the ground or a good one in the air.  Hopefully we can put together a total game for the next two weeks and pull out two wins to end the season with.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on October 28, 2006, 09:13:14 PM
8 minutes to go 4th quarter, Averett leads Shenandoah 18-0.

Sounds like a cold and rainy night over the internet. Shenandoah has
4 turnovers. Cougars have missed two extra points kicked and one 2-point
try.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on October 28, 2006, 09:25:44 PM
Final: AU 18-0.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 28, 2006, 10:01:14 PM
fc 35 - gc 23 - ferrum ran for 311 yards...looks like i was right about the panthers running all over gc (and pretty darn close on my score prediction of 38-27)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 29, 2006, 01:35:47 AM
Quote from: narch on October 28, 2006, 10:01:14 PM
fc 35 - gc 23 - ferrum ran for 311 yards...looks like i was right about the panthers running all over gc (and pretty darn close on my score prediction of 38-27)

narch - Very nice call on the FC-GC game. You ever spend any time in Vegas?  ::)

My thoughts are brief on this one - I thought our offense appeared a little more balanced with a run first attitude. The run opens up the pass and with the QB completing 83% of his passes, they could have thrown a little more - maybe. At least the offense had some consistency and scored some points!! The Pride can run the ball and this game they proved it. Unfortunately they could not stop the run. Ferrum ate up the clock and kept it on the ground - they threw 6 times the whole game! But that is smart football if you can make it work, IMO. :-\

Two new GC offensive records were set in this loss by the QB. The 82.3% completion rate, going 17-14-0 (1 passing TD) and rushing for 106 yards on 25 carries, both new records for a Greensboro QB. :o

Maybe we got a shot against Methodist - whadayathink, narch?  ???




WAY TO RUN, PRIDE, RUN ! ! !  

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 29, 2006, 01:06:27 AM

QUICK QUESTION: Is anyone else having trouble getting to Ferrum's website?


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 29, 2006, 01:26:27 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 29, 2006, 01:35:47 AM
Quote from: narch on October 28, 2006, 10:01:14 PM
fc 35 - gc 23 - ferrum ran for 311 yards...looks like i was right about the panthers running all over gc (and pretty darn close on my score prediction of 38-27)


Maybe we got a shot against Methodist - whadayathink, narch?  ???




WAY TO RUN, PRIDE, RUN ! ! !  




I don't know what Narch's opinion will be...but historically QB's better have their chin straps buckled up tight when playing MC.  We typically have a very aggressive defense, I wouldn't expect GC qb to have positive yards rushing next week....but then again...I have been wrong many times before!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2006, 09:09:22 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on October 29, 2006, 01:35:47 AMMaybe we got a shot against Methodist - whadayathink, narch?  ???

sure, every team has a chance on any given weekend...i just don't see it happening for the pride this weekend - if mike hill and joseph matthews are healthy, with the development of brandon parks, this could be a day the monarchs put up another 300+ yard rushing day - and there is no way the pride will run on the monarchs the way they did agains fc
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 29, 2006, 10:20:55 AM
too much going on yesterday...it was the first game i missed all eyar (either in person or on radio). looks like i picked the right one to miss! I haven't read the box score or looked at the paper yet....i can assure you CNU was not looking ahead....NCW must have just plain whipped them. My hat's off to the team and coaching staff of the Bishops!

I'd hate to be a CNU player in practice this week. And I think AU is a little more nervous about going into the den of a wounded tiger......

can't wait for next week's game!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 29, 2006, 12:12:14 PM
What can I say about the game last night.  It was solid on the offensive side.  Defense struggles, but I don't think GC has packed it in.  The offense like I said played well.  IMO usually thats the first thing that goes when teams have decided to pack it in.  No TO's a major plus.  I don't think I am gonna make the trip to methodist this weekend.  All my teams are still struggling.  High school team started 4-0 and are now 4-4.  (Should finish 6-4 and won't make the playoffs.)  Terps won saturday making them bowl eligible.  I hope my Raven's can take it to the Saints today.  Might just come out an ok weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 30, 2006, 12:18:12 AM
Good job NCW sometimes the better team does not always win but you just don't fall into 40 plus pts. O yeah I was meaning to respond to this post before the game but DONT EVER MENTION MOUNT UNION AND CNU IN THE SAME SENTENCE.  I forget who made the statement, dont get me wrong I am a die hard captain but as of right now we are no where near running this conference like MU does theirs or Bwater did the last few years. 

I thought this team was different but I guess the Captains like to make every conf game count on their way to a playoff berth. I am sure glad the AU game is at home now.  I hope this team digs deep and defend home like we always did in the past.

And yeah 85, I don't know about now but practice was always pretty bad after a loss.  It was even more worse after a conference loss when the coaches felt it was a game that we should have won.

Bottom line is Captains still control their own destiny so its up to the seniors now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on October 30, 2006, 07:40:40 AM
man, it sounds like the parks kid for methodist had a pretty good day in the air. The line pass blocked well for him to give him some time to throw the ball. Good job overall for the monarchs, just ended in a different way.

Rocket- I will be down on saturday to watch the monarchs. Delapp, me, hyslop, and a few others will be there. I may be bringing down a couple of kids for recruiting. But maybe ill see ya there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on October 30, 2006, 12:35:29 PM
It's been two days so I thought that its about time to start the talk about the showdown between CNU and Averett. I know all you captains fans think that with a loss CNU will fight harder, but with losing to NCWC you lost a major edge in the fact that now the Cougars know you can be beaten.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 30, 2006, 01:47:42 PM
what a weekend coming up!

will ncwc get win #5 against ferrum and set a school record for wins in a season (and solidify their hold on the #3 spot in the conference standings)?
i think so

will m'ville be able to defend home turf against a struggling su team?
pretty sure

will the monarchs send the pride to their 6th straight loss in front of a homecoming crowd and numerous recruits?
please, let it be so :)

will averett be able to win in pomoco and take an important step toward giving the usasac it's first legitimate champion, or will the captain pride, bruised by the battling bishops, lead them to victory?
honestly, i'm just not sure...i'd love to see that game, though

don't you love high-stakes weekends like this?

GO  MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 30, 2006, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: Showstoppa on October 30, 2006, 12:35:29 PM
It's been two days so I thought that its about time to start the talk about the showdown between CNU and Averett. I know all you captains fans think that with a loss CNU will fight harder, but with losing to NCWC you lost a major edge in the fact that now the Cougars know you can be beaten.

I hope AU thinks that way all week!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 30, 2006, 03:54:51 PM
Papi should know about that 35PSI chin strap tightening......"Damn Mariner sun"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on October 30, 2006, 07:26:36 PM
Averett vs SU pics on line now: http://www.fivemics.net/Shenandoah-2006.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on October 31, 2006, 09:00:25 AM
has any one noticed the slow down on this board since last weekend? I mean usually this has been one of the more boards, any idea one why this is other than the absence of the many post by the CNU boys?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on October 31, 2006, 09:18:27 AM
SU @ Maryville- I will take MV in this one simply because of the way this team plays. They play with intensity and a no quit attitude. Colby townsend in my opinion is the best DE in the conference. He has like 10 sacks on the saeson, and can tackle in the open field. MV held Mike hill to only 50 yards rushing on saturday. I take MVC  42-24.

AU @ CNU- The matchup everyone has been waiting for. It is going to be a shootout. This game also features alot of talent on the field for both teams. I think AU will put up a great fight against CNU with the best one-two punch in the conference right now with Kyle wilson and Hughley. However, I think CNU wins this matchup 49-42

NCWC @ Ferrum- NCWC has been finding ways to win all year long and have pulled together as a team to do it. They have three backs with over 350 yards rushing, and their defense is pretty darn good too. I think NCWC wins on saturday 35-27.

GC @ MC- GC has sort of fallen apart in the last  few weeks. They are down right now and i think Methodist will get out early and GC will lay down. MC is playing the best defense i have seen in a while. GC will not run the ball on them, i think they will try to throw the ball to lowe and hope he catches it. But MC will be ready. Offensively for the monarchs, Parks looks like he got into a rhythm on saturday, and the monarchs have ran the ball well against GC the last few years. In two years Mike Hill has ran for 154 yards and one touchdown. I think he runs for more than that on saturday. MC wins 35-14
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on October 31, 2006, 10:54:08 AM
MCol51:  Colby Townsend has been out with a broken ankle for a couple of games and will not return.  This is good news for Maryville's opponents but the Scots managed ok with Methodist without him.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 31, 2006, 12:50:28 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on October 31, 2006, 10:54:08 AM
MCol51:  Colby Townsend has been out with a broken ankle for a couple of games and will not return.  This is good news for Maryville's opponents but the Scots managed ok with Methodist without him.

     I was at the Ferrum/MC game a few weeks ago when he got hurt. I did not know how serious it was at the time but it looked pretty bad then. Apparently, it was. That is too bad for an outstanding Senior to have to end his career like that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 31, 2006, 02:50:37 PM
Quote from: Showstoppa on October 31, 2006, 09:00:25 AM
has any one noticed the slow down on this board since last weekend? I mean usually this has been one of the more boards, any idea one why this is other than the absence of the many post by the CNU boys?

Corporate Board meeting next week...up to my eyeballs in strategic plans
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 31, 2006, 03:28:24 PM
Kickerdad....i responded to your email....but it was returned saying you had a fatal error... Are you ok? Did the hospital get you fixed up?  :P


I'll try a personal message on this board...check it soon.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 31, 2006, 03:59:05 PM
CNU85,

Thanks for the information.......the firewall here at work is real sensitive.
But I did get your message and appreciate the info.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 31, 2006, 04:24:25 PM
Quote from: Showstoppa on October 31, 2006, 09:00:25 AM
has any one noticed the slow down on this board since last weekend? I mean usually this has been one of the more <active> boards, any idea one why this is other than the absence of the many post by the CNU boys?

I don't think Greensboro College  fans (remember us?) have a whole lot to talk about at this point. Our offense did look better against Ferrum. That offense might have made a difference against SU and AU and even CNU - then maybe not. I hope we do well against Methodist College. Does anyone remember if we really did beat Maryville or not? It seems sooooo long ago . . . . .  :-\

Now if we pull off a real miracle and beat the Monarchs . . . .then we will probably talk . . . and probably too much . . . . but I'm willing to take that risk!  ;D




WIN, PRIDE, WIN ! ! ! !  

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 31, 2006, 07:38:20 PM
Quote from: Showstoppa on October 31, 2006, 09:00:25 AM
has any one noticed the slow down on this board since last weekend? I mean usually this has been one of the more boards, any idea one why this is other than the absence of the many post by the CNU boys?

Does anyone understand what this post means?? Im still trying to figure it out myself. As for not posting for a bit, a 1000 apologies showstoppa. Some of us have lives outside of the post up boards. Sure its ironic that I, being a CNU fan, havent posted since Friday. If you need an explanation, here goes. My daughter has been ill with a 103 temp the past few days and Ive been dealing with that as well as being under the gun to complete a project at work. Hope this satisfies you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 31, 2006, 08:24:51 PM
Yeah, it's been slow on here, but I think part of it has to do with the fact that most people have pretty much expected for weeks that the conference title was going to come down to the game this Saturday. Most everything has already been said, save for the trash-talking. But let me help you out with that:

Averett fan: We're gonna kick the Captains' butts. You're going down!

CNU fan: No one can beat us at home. Keep dreaming. Our defense is solid.

Averett fan: Our talent is deep this year -- on offense especially. This is our year to take it all. We'll pummel you.

CNU fan: Your mom. We beat UMHB...na-na-na-na-na-na. You guys should try losing by less than three touchdowns to a ranked team. It's fun to win, and we're good at it.

Averett fan: You weren't so good at it last weekend. We took care of business against NCW when you guys couldn't.

CNU fan: Talk is cheap. Bring it!


There, now everyone's all caught up with the trash-talking.  ;D  We can either continue from there or start talking about something more serious.  :D  There's still two weeks of conference games to hash over!!

PS: For those who aren't very intuitive....this is a joke!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 31, 2006, 09:20:40 PM
LMAO!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 31, 2006, 09:42:23 PM
Quote from: Showstoppa on October 31, 2006, 09:00:25 AM
has any one noticed the slow down on this board since last weekend? I mean usually this has been one of the more boards, any idea one why this is other than the absence of the many post by the CNU boys?

i've been on the odac board trying to figure out why guilford doesn't have to forfeit games for using an ineligible player when su had to last year?

does anyone connected to the su program know if those sanctions were imposed by the ncaa, the usasac or if they were self-imposed?  thanks, in advance for any information
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 31, 2006, 10:07:12 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 31, 2006, 07:38:20 PM
Quote from: Showstoppa on October 31, 2006, 09:00:25 AM
has any one noticed the slow down on this board since last weekend? I mean usually this has been one of the more boards, any idea one why this is other than the absence of the many post by the CNU boys?

Does anyone understand what this post means?? Im still trying to figure it out myself. As for not posting for a bit, a 1000 apologies showstoppa. Some of us have lives outside of the post up boards. Sure its ironic that I, being a CNU fan, havent posted since Friday. If you need an explanation, here goes. My daughter has been ill with a 103 temp the past few days and Ive been dealing with that as well as being under the gun to complete a project at work. Hope this satisfies you.

Come on now fellas...relax a little bit.  :o Drink a cold one and have sweet dreams of a victorious Saturday for your team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2006, 11:12:39 PM
This was our story. It doesn't really answer this question but might answer some others.

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2005/10/07/Shenandoah+forfeits+to+Catholic
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on October 31, 2006, 11:59:02 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 31, 2006, 07:38:20 PM
Quote from: Showstoppa on October 31, 2006, 09:00:25 AM
has any one noticed the slow down on this board since last weekend? I mean usually this has been one of the more boards, any idea one why this is other than the absence of the many post by the CNU boys?

Does anyone understand what this post means??

Rikki - it has been coded for Cougar eyes only, but I'll give you the encryption key:
1. Insert "active" in between "more" and "boards"
2. Delete "one"
3. Insert "," b/t "is" and "other"
4. Add "s" to "post"

That will make it legible. There is more hidden smack talk, but if I told you, you'd get all mad.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on November 01, 2006, 01:35:44 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on October 31, 2006, 08:24:51 PM
Yeah, it's been slow on here, but I think part of it has to do with the fact that most people have pretty much expected for weeks that the conference title was going to come down to the game this Saturday. Most everything has already been said, save for the trash-talking. But let me help you out with that:

Averett fan: We're gonna kick the Captains' butts. You're going down!

CNU fan: No one can beat us at home. Keep dreaming. Our defense is solid.

Averett fan: Our talent is deep this year -- on offense especially. This is our year to take it all. We'll pummel you.

CNU fan: Your mom. We beat UMHB...na-na-na-na-na-na. You guys should try losing by less than three touchdowns to a ranked team. It's fun to win, and we're good at it.

Averett fan: You weren't so good at it last weekend. We took care of business against NCW when you guys couldn't.

CNU fan: Talk is cheap. Bring it!


There, now everyone's all caught up with the trash-talking.  ;D  We can either continue from there or start talking about something more serious.  :D  There's still two weeks of conference games to hash over!!

PS: For those who aren't very intuitive....this is a joke!

This post is priceless!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 01, 2006, 02:22:51 AM
Check the post when CNU beat MHB their wasn't a whole lot of talk, when CNU went to SU our fans didn't rant and rave like we were going to be the next national champion. Bottom line CNU fans have been hit and miss all year. We come on strong for a few weeks and then we back off. Oh but don't worry we are very aware that the mighty cougars are coming to town. After all we lost last week but I sure don't see a lot of Cougar fans talking smack so good ol POMOCO STILL GOT YOUR BOYS SCARED.  ;D ;D :o :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 01, 2006, 09:23:45 AM
54 - as much as I want to go back and forth with you .... I had a coach who told us "Talk is Cheap" so lets just see what happens Saturday. I just
hope it will be a good game (no blow out's on either side) and everyone in the stadium gets their monies worth. Regardless of who wins, lets make it fun and respectable.

WCLegacy you sure know how to stir the pot. Please don't get these CNU guys going before Saturday.

Eh You - be humble, we are going to thier back yard and you will see
more fans than all of Averetts game put together. Dunlevy better have
that team ready for the noise level and the excitment. They have never
seen or experienced what they are going to see Saturday and I just hope Averett brings the buses loaded like Mt Union did against us.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 01, 2006, 12:12:51 PM
Quote from: narch on October 31, 2006, 09:42:23 PM
Quote from: Showstoppa on October 31, 2006, 09:00:25 AM

i've been on the odac board trying to figure out why guilford doesn't have to forfeit games for using an ineligible player when su had to last year?

does anyone connected to the su program know if those sanctions were imposed by the ncaa, the usasac or if they were self-imposed?  thanks, in advance for any information

Shenandoah self imposed to forefit the CUA game themselfs. If Guilford doestent do it themselfs the NCAA should step in and do it for them.  Just curious what games would they have to forefit? All of the wins or just certian ones?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 01, 2006, 01:28:22 PM
Wow....let's recap what I've missed.....

WCLegacy wins the POTY...Post of The Year!!!!

Hoochie Koochie Koo (or Rikkity tickety whatever) wins the Sensitivity Award for 2006....a little itty bitty touchy or what?  A sick kid and a job.....OH HELL NO! - who can handle all that pressure!!?? A joke son, chill out!  ;D. You can tell you're a fairly new dad. My daughter goes to homecoming dances, parties, drove my new Jeep yesterday down Warwick Blvd!!!!!.....I long for the day when she had a 103 temp and was at home, safe in bed. Get used to it and fast......your little girl may be young and sweet now, but soon....HORMONES DUDE!!!!!!! Boys!!!! CARS!!!!! Boys and cars!!!! Boys and cars and hormones!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on November 01, 2006, 01:41:50 PM
Uncle Jessie, they would only forfeit the ones the illegal player particiated in, that was all the SU forfeited.  But if they wait too long the NCAA could do more in the way of punishment and sanctions. They rule, just ask them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on November 01, 2006, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 01, 2006, 09:23:45 AM

Eh You - be humble, .........

Did I miss something? The only thing I've said (I think) on this board about Saturday is that CNU is a hands down favorite to win. Certainly didn't mean for that to come across as my Pat Coleman cocky impression.
And playing in front of 5,000 people isn't exactly cause to pull out the PA system for practice. I admire CNU's environment and crowd - but it's not exactly Arrowhead!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 01, 2006, 02:25:36 PM
Just messing with you Eh You. Had seen on the other board where you got upset and came close to blowing your valve cover. Just trying to keep you out of trouble with the man.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on November 01, 2006, 03:22:25 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 01, 2006, 01:28:22 PM
Hoochie Koochie Koo (or Rikkity tickety whatever) wins the Sensitivity Award for 2006....a little itty bitty touchy or what?  A sick kid and a job.....OH HELL NO! - who can handle all that pressure!!?? A joke son, chill out!  ;D. You can tell you're a fairly new dad. My daughter goes to homecoming dances, parties, drove my new Jeep yesterday down Warwick Blvd!!!!!.....I long for the day when she had a 103 temp and was at home, safe in bed. Get used to it and fast......your little girl may be young and sweet now, but soon....HORMONES DUDE!!!!!!! Boys!!!! CARS!!!!! Boys and cars!!!! Boys and cars and hormones!!!!!


CNU85 - as the father of three females  ::) , one of which is married, one has lived overseas for several years (but home now) and my baby girl turned 18 last Sunday  :'( ; I have found these ten simple rules to be a great guide:

Stop me if you've seen this before - BTW, I found Rule # 10 to be especially helpful . . . . .  8)

Rule One:
If you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be delivering a package, because you're sure not picking anything up.

Rule Two:
You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her, so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep your eyes or hands off of my daughter's body, I will remove them.

Rule Three:
I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your age to wear their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling off their hips. Please don't take this as an insult, but you and all of your friends are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open minded about this issue, so I propose this compromise: You may come to the door with your underwear showing and your pants ten sizes too big, and I will not object. However, in order to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact, come off during the course of your date with my daughter, I will take my electric nail gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your waist.

Rule Four:
I'm sure you've been told that in today's world, sex without utilizing a "barrier method" of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate, when it comes to sex, I am the barrier, and I will kill you.

Rule Five:
It is usually understood that in order for us to get to know each other, we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the day. Please do not do this. The only information I require from you is an indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my house, and the only word I need from you on this subject is "early."

Rule Six:
I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities to date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my daughter.
Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will continue to date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you make her cry, I will make you cry.

Rule Seven:
As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear, and more than an hour goes by, do not sigh and fidget. If you want to be on time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is putting on her makeup, a process that can take longer than painting the Golden Gate Bridge. Instead of just standing there, why don't you do something useful, like changing the oil in my car?

Rule Eight:
The following places are not appropriate for a date with my daughter: Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a wooden stool. Places where there are no parents, policemen, or nuns within eyesight. Places where there is darkness. Places where there is dancing, holding hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature is warm enough to induce my daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts, or anything other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka -- zipped up to her throat. Movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme are to be avoided; movies which features chain saws are okay. Hockey games are okay. Old folks homes are better.

Rule Nine:
Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a potbellied, balding, middle-aged, dimwitted has-been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I am the all-knowing, merciless God of your universe. If I ask you where you are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five acres behind the house. Do not trifle with me.

Rule Ten:
Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to mistake the sound of your car in the driveway for a chopper coming in over a rice paddy near Hanoi. When my Agent Orange starts acting up, the voices in my head frequently tell me to clean the guns as I wait for you to bring my daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveway you should exit your car with both hands in plain sight. Speak the perimeter password, announce in a clear voice that you have brought my daughter home safely and early, then return to your car -- there is no need for you to come inside. The camouflaged face at the window is mine.

I keep this posted at our house . . . . >:(

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on November 01, 2006, 05:38:58 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 01, 2006, 02:25:36 PM
Just messing with you Eh You. Had seen on the other board where you got upset and came close to blowing your valve cover. Just trying to keep you out of trouble with the man.


It that case, thank you! Seems I'm having a little trouble with that lately.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 01, 2006, 05:45:14 PM
Newbie....YOU just took away The Post of The Year award away from Legacy!!! That will be posted in my house today!!!! I love it!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on November 01, 2006, 05:46:18 PM
Newbie - that is freaking FUNNY ;D

I just laughed my head off,copied, pasted to word, printed, and posted those!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 01, 2006, 07:14:05 PM
Newbie,

got any rules for my soon to be 18 year old son?

Here's a start:

1. Look at the girl's mom. That's what she'll look like when she grows up.
2. If Rule #1 answer is..."nice looking"...call Dad. If mom answers, hang up.
3. Protection
4. Stay away from Newbie's little girl

kinda lame.....but gives you guys something to work with.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 01, 2006, 07:18:37 PM
back to football........

I suppose AU has it's game plan in place by now.....I figured they drove home from SU through Rocky Mount, picked up the game tape, and had it figured out after a few miles......throw the ball!!! Alot!!!!

This is going to be a great game!!! 50 degrees.....fall day.......CNU fired up, mad........and 5,000 crazed fans shipped in from Arrowhead! (for you Kickerdad).

It'll be fun to eat AU fans' food at the tailgate!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 01, 2006, 07:27:53 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on November 01, 2006, 03:22:25 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 01, 2006, 01:28:22 PM
Hoochie Koochie Koo (or Rikkity tickety whatever) wins the Sensitivity Award for 2006....a little itty bitty touchy or what?  A sick kid and a job.....OH HELL NO! - who can handle all that pressure!!?? A joke son, chill out!  ;D. You can tell you're a fairly new dad. My daughter goes to homecoming dances, parties, drove my new Jeep yesterday down Warwick Blvd!!!!!.....I long for the day when she had a 103 temp and was at home, safe in bed. Get used to it and fast......your little girl may be young and sweet now, but soon....HORMONES DUDE!!!!!!! Boys!!!! CARS!!!!! Boys and cars!!!! Boys and cars and hormones!!!!!


CNU85 - as the father of three females  ::) , one of which is married, one has lived overseas for several years (but home now) and my baby girl turned 18 last Sunday  :'( ; I have found these ten simple rules to be a great guide:

Stop me if you've seen this before - BTW, I found Rule # 10 to be especially helpful . . . . .  8)

Rule One:
If you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be delivering a package, because you're sure not picking anything up.

Rule Two:
You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her, so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep your eyes or hands off of my daughter's body, I will remove them.

Rule Three:
I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your age to wear their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling off their hips. Please don't take this as an insult, but you and all of your friends are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open minded about this issue, so I propose this compromise: You may come to the door with your underwear showing and your pants ten sizes too big, and I will not object. However, in order to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact, come off during the course of your date with my daughter, I will take my electric nail gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your waist.

Rule Four:
I'm sure you've been told that in today's world, sex without utilizing a "barrier method" of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate, when it comes to sex, I am the barrier, and I will kill you.

Rule Five:
It is usually understood that in order for us to get to know each other, we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the day. Please do not do this. The only information I require from you is an indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my house, and the only word I need from you on this subject is "early."

Rule Six:
I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities to date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my daughter.
Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will continue to date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you make her cry, I will make you cry.

Rule Seven:
As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear, and more than an hour goes by, do not sigh and fidget. If you want to be on time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is putting on her makeup, a process that can take longer than painting the Golden Gate Bridge. Instead of just standing there, why don't you do something useful, like changing the oil in my car?

Rule Eight:
The following places are not appropriate for a date with my daughter: Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a wooden stool. Places where there are no parents, policemen, or nuns within eyesight. Places where there is darkness. Places where there is dancing, holding hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature is warm enough to induce my daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts, or anything other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka -- zipped up to her throat. Movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme are to be avoided; movies which features chain saws are okay. Hockey games are okay. Old folks homes are better.

Rule Nine:
Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a potbellied, balding, middle-aged, dimwitted has-been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I am the all-knowing, merciless God of your universe. If I ask you where you are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five acres behind the house. Do not trifle with me.

Rule Ten:
Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to mistake the sound of your car in the driveway for a chopper coming in over a rice paddy near Hanoi. When my Agent Orange starts acting up, the voices in my head frequently tell me to clean the guns as I wait for you to bring my daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveway you should exit your car with both hands in plain sight. Speak the perimeter password, announce in a clear voice that you have brought my daughter home safely and early, then return to your car -- there is no need for you to come inside. The camouflaged face at the window is mine.

I keep this posted at our house . . . . >:(



     I just got off the floor from LMAO. I laughed so hard my gut hurts. What a hoot man!!! I don't have a daughter but if I did, I would be the same way!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 01, 2006, 07:49:03 PM
85...you would also have to add to those rules for dating your daughter that soccer punks need not apply!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 01, 2006, 09:00:29 PM
omg...that was toooooooooooooo funny
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 01, 2006, 09:15:16 PM
newbie...great stuff - i had my daughter's handprint put on an "agreement" we made regarding dating the day she was born...and i'm going to hold her to it - problem is, she's got a hot mom and her dad's personality...she's going to be a handful, and i've known it for a while...she's 3 1/2, so i've got some time to work things out

on another non-football note, methodist college announced today that they are changing the name to methodist university...if nothing else it will ease the confusion on this board - m'ville can have the mc moniker, and the monarchs are now mu!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 01, 2006, 10:26:12 PM
I wonder how long it's going to take me to get used to saying Methodist University.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 01, 2006, 10:32:43 PM
Mooooo.....umm...excuse me...wait.....MU

there! MU

I didn't realize Monarch Butterflies said Moo.

honest...I only had 1 beer, officer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on November 01, 2006, 10:45:13 PM
Quote from: narch on November 01, 2006, 09:15:16 PM
on another non-football note, methodist college announced today that they are changing the name to methodist university...

Lord knows that will be the lead story on the conference website and will be on D3football.com - It kills me - I don't even have to read them anymore - EVERY TIME there is a "conference" news story posted it ALWAYS has Methodist involved in it. Not your fault Narch, and I'm not complaining to you about it but it really gets old to a non-Methodist fan.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 01, 2006, 11:03:26 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 01, 2006, 10:32:43 PM
I didn't realize Monarch Butterflies said Moo.

honest...I only had 1 beer, officer.

If I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that one!  I'll ask you like I ask them 85, "How big was that one beer?    ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on November 01, 2006, 11:10:02 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on November 01, 2006, 03:22:25 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 01, 2006, 01:28:22 PM
Hoochie Koochie Koo (or Rikkity tickety whatever) wins the Sensitivity Award for 2006....a little itty bitty touchy or what?  A sick kid and a job.....OH HELL NO! - who can handle all that pressure!!?? A joke son, chill out!  ;D. You can tell you're a fairly new dad. My daughter goes to homecoming dances, parties, drove my new Jeep yesterday down Warwick Blvd!!!!!.....I long for the day when she had a 103 temp and was at home, safe in bed. Get used to it and fast......your little girl may be young and sweet now, but soon....HORMONES DUDE!!!!!!! Boys!!!! CARS!!!!! Boys and cars!!!! Boys and cars and hormones!!!!!


CNU85 - as the father of three females  ::) , one of which is married, one has lived overseas for several years (but home now) and my baby girl turned 18 last Sunday  :'( ; I have found these ten simple rules to be a great guide:

Stop me if you've seen this before - BTW, I found Rule # 10 to be especially helpful . . . . .  8)

Rule One:
If you pull into my driveway and honk you'd better be delivering a package, because you're sure not picking anything up.

Rule Two:
You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her, so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep your eyes or hands off of my daughter's body, I will remove them.

Rule Three:
I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your age to wear their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling off their hips. Please don't take this as an insult, but you and all of your friends are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open minded about this issue, so I propose this compromise: You may come to the door with your underwear showing and your pants ten sizes too big, and I will not object. However, in order to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact, come off during the course of your date with my daughter, I will take my electric nail gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your waist.

Rule Four:
I'm sure you've been told that in today's world, sex without utilizing a "barrier method" of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate, when it comes to sex, I am the barrier, and I will kill you.

Rule Five:
It is usually understood that in order for us to get to know each other, we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the day. Please do not do this. The only information I require from you is an indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my house, and the only word I need from you on this subject is "early."

Rule Six:
I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities to date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my daughter.
Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will continue to date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you make her cry, I will make you cry.

Rule Seven:
As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear, and more than an hour goes by, do not sigh and fidget. If you want to be on time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is putting on her makeup, a process that can take longer than painting the Golden Gate Bridge. Instead of just standing there, why don't you do something useful, like changing the oil in my car?

Rule Eight:
The following places are not appropriate for a date with my daughter: Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a wooden stool. Places where there are no parents, policemen, or nuns within eyesight. Places where there is darkness. Places where there is dancing, holding hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature is warm enough to induce my daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts, or anything other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka -- zipped up to her throat. Movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme are to be avoided; movies which features chain saws are okay. Hockey games are okay. Old folks homes are better.

Rule Nine:
Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a potbellied, balding, middle-aged, dimwitted has-been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I am the all-knowing, merciless God of your universe. If I ask you where you are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five acres behind the house. Do not trifle with me.

Rule Ten:
Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to mistake the sound of your car in the driveway for a chopper coming in over a rice paddy near Hanoi. When my Agent Orange starts acting up, the voices in my head frequently tell me to clean the guns as I wait for you to bring my daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveway you should exit your car with both hands in plain sight. Speak the perimeter password, announce in a clear voice that you have brought my daughter home safely and early, then return to your car -- there is no need for you to come inside. The camouflaged face at the window is mine.

I keep this posted at our house . . . . >:(


ever since the ineligible crap at Guilford, I've been a bit glum.  :'( :'(  But I laughed so hard at this!! ;D ;D   I don't know where you got it, but I love it.  Thanks!!!!!  E-brownies to you for brightening my day.  And probably adding 20 years to other fathers of daughters just by them reading it.  ;) Luckily my babies are just kitties (neutered and declawed and they are not allowed outside period)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 01, 2006, 11:12:11 PM
Rule Nine:
Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a potbellied, balding, middle-aged, dimwitted has-been


  Hey I resemble that !!!!!
Title: Eastern Guilford HS destroyed
Post by: hasanova on November 01, 2006, 11:28:06 PM
For those of you familiar with Guilford County, Eastern Guilford HS has been burning since 2:30 this afternoon.  At this point, the firefighters have given up and are just letting it burn.  Reports say it started in a Chemistry Lab and the teacher was unable to put it out when he discovered it.  He pulled the alarm and, thankfully, no students or faculty were injured, but a few firefighters have been hurt.  The fire is so bad, students and staff were not allowed back at the school to get their cars from the parking lot.  Students are out tomorrow and Friday at least until school administrators decide what to do.  I'm sure some options are doubling up at EG Middle School, GTCC (community college), other area HS's and so forth, but it'll be a big mess since EGHS has over 1000 students.  The news reports say the school is a total loss.  It is, among other things, the alma mater of St. Louis Rams/NCSU alumnus Torry Holt.  This is certainly not as important as the school itself and its academic significance, but I would expect a major disruption in EGHS's athletic schedules as well.  Good luck to all of them!
Title: New poll just released
Post by: Eh-You on November 02, 2006, 12:16:27 AM
Please see signature for the latest hater list. There will be no criteria or logic - only emotion. There is only one voter and the poll can be expanded to include all that deserve to be there. The poll will take into account all Hatemail, HaterAde, Hate sandwhiches and straight shots of Hate with no chaser recieved in USAC, ODAC, Fan Poll, Playoffs, and Top 25 boards.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2006, 08:20:54 AM
this is just for you, eh-you...article on mu name change (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=245918)

'nova - i had heard about eghs burning, but didn't realize how complete the devastation was...that situation is going to be a cluster for a while - as someone who watched his house burn down, i feel for those involved
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 02, 2006, 08:34:30 AM
Quote from: narch on November 02, 2006, 08:20:54 AM
'nova - i had heard about eghs burning, but didn't realize how complete the devastation was...that situation is going to be a cluster for a while - as someone who watched his house burn down, i feel for those involved
Yes, it will be a big mess.  Since it happened to you, I know you understand more completely than most how they must feel.  As a boy of 10 or so, I still vividly remember seeing a fire on a nearby farm.  In the rural community I lived, you always assumed it was a tobacco barn if it happened in the late summer or fall.  Anyway, it was a neighbor's house and they were away for the evening.  The volunteer firefighters and neighbors tried to save it, but couldn't.  It was almost completely razed when the owner and his family got home.  Our neighbor was a strong man, but he dropped to his knees and sobbed.  I will never forget that as long as I live.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on November 02, 2006, 09:02:51 AM
Quote from: narch on November 02, 2006, 08:20:54 AM
'nova - i had heard about eghs burning, but didn't realize how complete the devastation was...that situation is going to be a cluster for a while - as someone who watched his house burn down, i feel for those involved

Same here, narch. Our home burned in 1995 and all we saved were some pictures and keepsakes. Fortunately no one was hurt and that was what was most important. Neighbors, friends and strangers rallied around us and amazed us with their love and support. With five kids at home, it was traumatic, but we were determined to see beauty from ashes. It seems much of our immediate family history is now marked either BF or AF (before fire/after fire).  :)

So our prayers are with those at EGHS, even though it wasn't their home, it is still traumatic.

BTW, I took my POP Warner team to Tennessee for regionals the next week after the fire.  :-\  Now that was something!


NOTE: My HS in Georgia burned down about fifteen years after I graduated. All my records were lost. That is why I tell my kids I had perfect attendance and straight A's all through HS!!  ;)




WIN, PRIDE, WIN ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 02, 2006, 09:07:49 AM
Quote from: narch on November 01, 2006, 09:15:16 PM
newbie...great stuff - i had my daughter's handprint put on an "agreement" we made regarding dating the day she was born...and i'm going to hold her to it - problem is, she's got a hot mom and her dad's personality...she's going to be a handful, and i've known it for a while...she's 3 1/2, so i've got some time to work things out

on another non-football note, methodist college announced today that they are changing the name to methodist university...if nothing else it will ease the confusion on this board - m'ville can have the mc moniker, and the monarchs are now mu!

One of the first questions that I ask the father of a newborn daughter is how old will she be when the father permits her to date.

The usual answer is, "About 30."

As for Methodist University, that means that you had better not get confused with Southern Methodist University. ;)

Condolences to the family of EGHS!  :(
Title: Breaking news from conference headquarters
Post by: Eh-You on November 02, 2006, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: narch on November 02, 2006, 08:20:54 AM
this is just for you, eh-you...article on mu name change (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=245918)

It will be required that this article be read aloud at every USAC football game this weekend during the moment of silence. Anyone who is not silent (including loud breathing) will be asked to leave the property and will not recieve a refund.

-R. Wiggs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 02, 2006, 10:02:05 AM
Newbie newbie newbie!!! Classic! I just copied it and emailed it to my wife!! Im waiting for her response!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 02, 2006, 11:46:20 AM
Quote from: fivemics on November 01, 2006, 01:41:50 PM
Uncle Jessie, they would only forfeit the ones the illegal player particiated in, that was all the SU forfeited.  But if they wait too long the NCAA could do more in the way of punishment and sanctions. They rule, just ask them.

Yeah I know that much. Thats what I told that other guy asking a question if SU self imposed the sactions on the NCAA did it. Im wondering what games did he
( The Guilford player) play in? Was it all of them this season or just a few games? I dont know too much about this story really. Pat have you heard anything?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 02, 2006, 12:08:45 PM
After reading the many messages over on the ODAC site it looks like the kid from Guilford had something to do with his attendance record in class'. I also see he was not much of a factor in the games he played in. I'm always on the side where I don't think the whole team should be punished because of one person. So I don't believe that GC should forfeit any wins. Esp. because he was not a huge factor in the games played. Like last year when SU decided to forfeit the CUA game it just did not sit right with me. I felt bad for the other 100 + players that followed the rules but because the sports administration did not do the work to check up on the transcripts the whole team was punished. SU even said at the time that they did not look at transcripts until conference play starts. I hope that policy changed.  But with every rule broken as in life when someone commits a crime a punishment needs to follow. Punish the school. Not the team. D3 as we all know has no scholarships so the NCAA cant take away that. But D3 schools do look at the dollars like any D1 college does. So one thing they could do is take away a home game from Guilford for every game the kid played in. I bet that would wake up the schools administration department real fast on checking grades and transcripts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on November 02, 2006, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on November 02, 2006, 12:08:45 PM
I also see he was not much of a factor in the games he played in.

Even though the point we were trying to make is that it shouldn't matter how important the player is (be it the starting QB or a fifth-string OL), you really think that a starting defensive back who finishes the game with six tackles wasn't a big factor?  Hmm.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 02, 2006, 01:10:11 PM
All i know is what I have read from other people posting messages and many said he was not a factor.  Whos to say if a back up would not had done that as well. Who knows. I really dont care about this Guilford thing at all. I just gave my 2 cents worth on what should happen to Guilford in the future. i just dont think it would be fair to the other players that follow the rules to hurt them as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Snakehandler on November 02, 2006, 01:21:45 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on November 02, 2006, 01:10:11 PM
Who knows.

Exactly.

That's why NCAA rules are written on white paper and black ink.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on November 02, 2006, 03:30:07 PM
All that i got to say is that it will be tough for AU to beat CNU after thier loss last week. But i think they will do it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 02, 2006, 04:04:11 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on November 01, 2006, 11:03:26 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 01, 2006, 10:32:43 PM
I didn't realize Monarch Butterflies said Moo.

honest...I only had 1 beer, officer.

If I had a dollar for everytime I've heard that one!  I'll ask you like I ask them 85, "How big was that one beer?    ;D

64 oz.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2006, 09:19:16 PM
i'm going to let the guilford situation go after this last comment...'nova, please don't take offense, but i think the question needs to be asked...

does anyone think guilford, a school rooted and founded in the quaker tradition, would have forfeited the games rich played in if they weren't in the thick of an odac race?

su self-imposed the forfeit last year because they apparently felt it was the right thing to do given the circumstance that they were in and given the wording of the ncaa bylaws pertaining to the use of an ineligible player - no other school turned them in, and quite honestly, from what i understand after receiving an email from someone who works at su, the infraction probably would have never been known had su not self-reported the incident - i have a lot of respect for su which, quite honestly, i didn't previously have - many on the usasac board hammered su for allowing this to happen last year, but now i think most have the utmost respect for the su program for the steps they took to rectify the situation and do the right thing

i would expect a school like guilford, which has such a history and tradition of honesty and integrity, to acknowledge that they used an ineligible player, knowingly or not, and take the steps to rectify the matter in accordance with ncaa bylaws...i'm afraid that i think the heat of the odac race and the possibility of the first quaker ncaa trip are superceding integrity and clouding judgement - it seems that guilford is simply saying "it's not our fault, so we shouldn't be punished", and it also seems that many on this board and the odac conference take a similar view - i would expect that type of attitude at a big-time athletic factory, but not at a school and in a conference that, in my mind, have to this point been models for all that is right with division 3 athletics

i'm moving on now...hope i haven't offended any guilford or odac fans too badly

p.s. - in case anyone wonders, dion rich did not play against mc, according to the game participation section of the mc/gcq box-score, so a forfeit would not benefit the monarchs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2006, 09:23:59 PM
here is a good article on the evolution of the monarch football (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=245988) program from the fayetteville observer today
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 02, 2006, 10:20:59 PM
Narch
Sepiku....ritual suicide....no school except SU is going to do it especially if they think they did not do it. You said it......playoff dough. I mean look at what SMU did and they still had to be taken out back and shot behind the ear.

Rectify. Lets see. Toss the kid out of school because I know he knew and did not give a frig. Kill the coach that handles academics along with the toadie in admissions.

That being said......I would do that for (cannot believe I am saying this) even those dreaded Hank Norton Mutants, the Panthers. ;)

I know if Brian Person was still at GC-Q I would be calling for the eviseration and quartering of some admission toads and that registras office.

You know I love you (not man love) and respect you but it BS.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2006, 09:50:11 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 02, 2006, 10:20:59 PM

You know I love you (not man love) and respect you but it BS.

It's a love similar to how a man loves beer!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on November 03, 2006, 10:41:18 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on November 02, 2006, 03:30:07 PM
All that i got to say is that it will be tough for AU to beat CNU after thier loss last week. But i think they will do it.

Gullett AU thanks you for the confidence, It's not going to be easy but I think the Cougars should come away convincing, watch out for the AU secondary that everyone thought was the worst in the league because when AU gets up the Captains will be forced to go to the air and that could be risky, for a team who is only completing 12 passes a game, and remember the cougars rank first in takeaway, giveaways in conference play with +14 almost 3 time as many as the next team (NC. Wesleyan with +5)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on November 03, 2006, 11:07:52 AM
Quote from: Showstoppa on November 03, 2006, 10:41:18 AM
...and remember the cougars rank first in takeaway, giveaways in conference play with +14 almost 3 time as many as the next team (NC. Wesleyan with +5)

Awesome stat Stoppa, If I could I'd pass you mad karma!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 03, 2006, 12:11:59 PM
Yea like CNU85 said
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2006, 01:31:17 PM
abnrgr - i love you too, man...mostly because i feel like you'd rip me in 2 if i said otherwise :)

we can agree to disagree on this and still be down
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 03, 2006, 03:22:11 PM
Narch
They really screwed the pooch huh?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2006, 04:56:53 PM
5 posts today......all about beer, man love, and sex with dogs...but no football!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 03, 2006, 06:33:31 PM
     Ok, lets see if we can get this blog back on track.

      The frost is on the pumkin...the hay is in the barn...the muzzeloader cleaned and ready to go...the fridge is full of beer...the pantry full of chips and salsa...HS football tonight...college football tomorrow...the little lady coming over tomorrow night...you get the idea. How's that for getting a little testosterone flowing?  ;D

GO TIGERS...GO SCOTS...GO PANTHERS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2006, 09:01:57 PM
picks and prediction time

mc 31 - su 14 - the scots are rolling and the hornets won't slow them down

ncwc 30 - fc 15 - the bishops are riding high after a big win last week, and keep the momentum going

cnu 24 - au 17 - this will be a great game - au has an outstanding, balanced offense, and last week notwithstanding, the captains have a great defense...i think the cnu defense is a little better than the cougar offense this week, especially at pomoco

mu 31 - gc 14 - mike hill, mike hill and more mike hill...then sprinkle in a little brandon parks - the monarchs will control this game and go 1-0 as methodist university :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 04, 2006, 04:06:48 AM
damn damn I want to B at the game 2 day at good ol pomoco. But I instead I'm in maryland this weekend  2 watch my other favorite team play the cowgirls. But its cool at least 1 of my favorite teams will make the playoffs this year. we got the cougars n our backyard and that spells trouble 4 the visitors. LOL the caps  r terrible host. 16 conf teams have come and only 1 has left happy.

GO CAPS GET R DONE
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 04, 2006, 05:27:27 AM
Quote from: narch on November 03, 2006, 09:01:57 PM
picks and prediction time

mc 31 - su 14 - the scots are rolling and the hornets won't slow them down

ncwc 30 - fc 15 - the bishops are riding high after a big win last week, and keep the momentum going

cnu 24 - au 17 - this will be a great game - au has an outstanding, balanced offense, and last week notwithstanding, the captains have a great defense...i think the cnu defense is a little better than the cougar offense this week, especially at pomoco

mu 31 - gc 14 - mike hill, mike hill and more mike hill...then sprinkle in a little brandon parks - the monarchs will control this game and go 1-0 as methodist university :)

     I like the MC/SU pick. "Rolling" might be a little strong but heck, I'll take it. They didn't do too much rolling against CNU a few weeks back. Only the 2nd HC I have missed at MC since 1983.  :( The Scots can't overlook SU but if they can get the W today, perhaps they can upset AU's apple cart next week like they did Huntington last year.  ;D
     Players to keep an eye on. MC's Hightower. The kid can play and as far as I can tell, he is a good kid too. If he stays 4 years and stays healthy, he will leave his mark on MC and USA South football.

GO SCOTS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 04, 2006, 09:12:54 AM
Finest - what kinda fan are you? The deadskins don't play until sunday...or I should say - they don't take the field until Sunday......you could make both games......disappointment abounds!!  ;D

have fun!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on November 04, 2006, 09:27:44 AM
Quote from: narch on November 03, 2006, 09:01:57 PM

cnu 24 - au 17 - this will be a great game - au has an outstanding, balanced offense, and last week notwithstanding, the captains have a great defense...i think the cnu defense is a little better than the cougar offense this week, especially at pomoco

Narch like I've tried to preach to everyone this week while everyone is looking at the match up between CNU's Defense and the Cougar offense mark my words the game will be won or lost when the AU's defense takes the field vs the CNU offense. It might be debateable if the AU offense of CNU Defense is better but there is no doubt that the Cougars defense is better than the captains offense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on November 04, 2006, 01:47:32 PM
AU17 CNU 14 11:50 left in the 2nd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 04, 2006, 01:52:36 PM
9:35 left 2nd Q 21-17 CNU.

Thank you whoever invented webcasts. For those of us who live
many states away we can still follow our teams.  Both teams are
lighting it up on offense. Cougars have the ball in their own territory.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 04, 2006, 02:04:07 PM
Narch,

were you picking the AU/CNU halftime score? LOL.
Now 24-21 Cougars, still 4 minutes to go in the half
and CNU on the AU 45.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on November 04, 2006, 02:04:22 PM
AU-24 CNU-21  4:30 in the 2nd


so much for everyones (including me)  prediction of a defensive struggle.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 04, 2006, 02:16:34 PM
package deal 85 my girl and 2 other friends r huge dallas fans. we got a 2 night hotel.  meet some cowboy players. and lower level seats 4 a really good price. but I'm checking my pda faithfully 2 keep tabs on my boys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 04, 2006, 02:25:15 PM
Wow.

Halftime Averett 31-28.

Who would have picked this??

Go Cougars!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 04, 2006, 02:34:07 PM
wow come on defense 31 pts at home is not acceptable especially at halftime.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 04, 2006, 03:44:31 PM
CNU up 41-31 with just 30 seconds left.

They just scored.

Averett drove and drove and drove deep in CNU territory but
missed field goals and 4th down opportunities.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 04, 2006, 03:49:01 PM
Final yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 04, 2006, 03:53:18 PM
Yep, final 41-31.

Both teams must have played hard, wish I could have been there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 04, 2006, 03:53:55 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on November 04, 2006, 02:34:07 PM
wow come on defense 31 pts at home is not acceptable especially at halftime.

Sounds like they heard you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 04, 2006, 04:37:38 PM
i saw the most embarrassing loss in mu history today...way too many turnovers (5 or 6...i lost count), horrible line play, no passion and intensity...embarrassing

i'm going to kick my neighbor's cat around the back yard and then imbibe heavily (it's a joke...i would never kick a cat and tell anyone about it)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 04, 2006, 04:44:48 PM
Quote from: narch on November 04, 2006, 04:37:38 PM
i saw the most embarrassing loss in mu history today...way too many turnovers (5 or 6...i lost count), horrible line play, no passion and intensity...embarrassing

i'm going to kick my neighbor's cat around the back yard and then imbibe heavily (it's a joke...i would never kick a cat and tell anyone about it)

Is there a box score.  I listened to it on pridenet I could never tell who had the ball there were so many TO's
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 04, 2006, 04:46:53 PM
I'll make this quick since I'm at work.

Congrats CNU! You guys played an awesome game, and I'm happy to have been able to see it to the finish. Granted, I'm heartbroken right now because my August prediction of an Averett playoff run seems to have slipped away. But I must say that the Captains really earned their reward today. It was a great one. The excitment on both sides of the field really showed.

CNU85 and Riki, it was great to meet both of you today. Best of luck for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 04, 2006, 04:59:37 PM
Thanks Leagacy. Also, thank the other AU guys at the tailgate. I enjoyed the food and drink(s). Like I said while I was drinking AU beer, "where's the tissues for after the game?"!!!

Great game.....track meet in the first half, then CNU shut down the AU scoring. I was pretty vocal in part of the game....Kelchner made some bonehead errors in the game. His coaching staff really made the adjustments at halftime on defense.

Neither team gave up....great job Cougars....it was a heck of a game!

oh...and since I was so critical about it with Greensboro....some of the CNU defensive players (D-line especially) came out in the 2nd half with shirt tails hanging out.......and one of them ran into the game and jumped off side on a 4th and 1......ahem.......discipline fellas!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 04, 2006, 06:12:49 PM
Oh, and narch, you had mentioned on the pick-ems board that I should have included Jeff Hugley from Averett among the potential players of the year. You are absolutely correct. His first two TD catches were amazing today. This was the first time I'd seen him play in person, and he is no doubt one of the conference's best players.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 04, 2006, 06:38:02 PM
I want to congratulate every CNU fan on here. You had to be there to appreciate the game. Everyone in the stadium got their monies worth. Until the final minute this game could have gone in any direction. I was very impressed with the size of the CNU team and the offense.

I will go ahead and wish you luck against Ferrum. From what I saw today I don't see you having any problems with them next week.

Both teams played outstanding football today and though many have said Averett wasn't at the level of CNU or other conference teams, I believe they proved to a lot of folks on both sides of the field today that they
can play.

I will say this too, I think CNU has a fantistic campus and your facilities are first class.

Again, congrats to CNU for a great victory and good luck with the rest of your season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 04, 2006, 06:53:53 PM
I think there was 11 total TO's in the GC-MU game today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 04, 2006, 08:21:57 PM
Thanks Kickerdad! What a game!! The Cougars are a tough team this year. The first few games of the season opened their eyes about playing with the big dogs. They never gave up today. Also - since you are Kickerdad....which kicker # is your kid?

WC - Hugley is awesome! I couldn't believe CNU played most of the first half without RobRod on him!! They did make the adjustment at halftime and shut down AU's passing game.....but dang....how many TD's does that guy need before you put your All-American on him? I do belive one of Hugley's TDs was against RonRod....the guy can play!

WC - I saw you on the sidelines...this is moot since the game is over and CNU won....were you close to the catch in the ndzone by a CNU player that was ruled out of bounds? Was that the right call? From this biased CNU fan...it looked to me he had the ball, two feet and a knee in.......that it wasn't even close...but it must have been close....any thoughts on it?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 04, 2006, 09:14:46 PM
Great Win Pride!

   Bring back the majic!

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2006, 10:11:29 PM
Kickerdad and all of the AU faithful,

Congratulations on a breakout season!  It is fun to play "playoff" football in November! :)

Good luck in the off-season and have a good Holiday season, if you don't post again this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 04, 2006, 10:19:35 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 04, 2006, 08:21:57 PM
WC - Hugley is awesome! I couldn't believe CNU played most of the first half without RobRod on him!! They did make the adjustment at halftime and shut down AU's passing game.....but dang....how many TD's does that guy need before you put your All-American on him? I do belive one of Hugley's TDs was against RonRod....the guy can play!

Completely agree here! I noticed that early on, too, and couldn't believe that the Captains let more than a couple plays go by without sticking Rodriguez on Hughley. Now, am I wrong or does Rodriguez always line up on the same side of the field? That might have something to do with it. Hughley was lining up all over the place and maybe the coaches just didn't want to move Rodiguez around like that.

Quote from: CNU85 on November 04, 2006, 08:21:57 PM
WC - I saw you on the sidelines...this is moot since the game is over and CNU won....were you close to the catch in the ndzone by a CNU player that was ruled out of bounds? Was that the right call? From this biased CNU fan...it looked to me he had the ball, two feet and a knee in.......that it wasn't even close...but it must have been close....any thoughts on it?

Actually, that happened almost right in front of me, and gosh that call was a close one!

I was scrambling to line up my camera and got a "click" in right as the catch occurred. Now, I'm not going to be able to swear that when I get the film developed tomorrow that the shot will be in focus, but I'll for sure let you know if it tells me anything. I was looking through the lens and wasn't completely focusing on whether he was in-bounds, sorry to say. I'll keep you posted.

Now, even though that play could possibly be argued, I gotta say that I was really happy with the reffing in today's game. It seemed to be pretty fair, and there wasn't much outcry from fans or coaches about the penalty calls. I thought the refs did very well!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on November 04, 2006, 10:54:19 PM
Quote from: narch on November 03, 2006, 09:01:57 PM
picks and prediction time

mu 31 - gc 14 - mike hill, mike hill and more mike hill...then sprinkle in a little brandon parks - the monarchs will control this game and go 1-0 as methodist university :)

Sooooo . . .what happened?   ::)

Rushing         No Gain Loss  Net TD Lg  Avg
HILL, Mike      25   60   22   38     1 13  1.5      :o

                                          GC       MU
Rushing Attempts............       53       35
Average Per Rush............      4.8      2.5
Yards Gained Rushing........   283      129

Completions-Attempts-Int....   9-19-3  10-22-3
Average Per Attempt.........       5.8      4.5
Average Per Completion......    12.3     10.0

TOTAL OFFENSE YARDS........... 366      187  ???
Total offense plays.........           72       57
Average Gain Per Play.......        5.1      3.3

5 fumbles & 6 interceptions combined!   :-\

Red-Zone Scores-Chances....... 3-5      2-2
(it could have been worse if GC had taken better advantage of scoring opportunities)

Now, if The Pride are the lady lions, what does that make the Monarchs?  :P

They might want to consider changing the name back to Methodist College . . . .  ;)

OK - I know I'm just enjoying this way too much, but it's not like I've had very many opportunities! I'm gonna gloat for about 15 more minutes, get me a nice banana hot fudge sundae and go celebrate! ;D

narch - I was very impressed with your campus and facilities. It was unusuall to have both school's fans on the same side of the field, but I found your fans to be very agreeable.  My compliments to your fans - someplace else might have been a little more irate to visitors who win at homecoming a game no one thought they would even be able to compete.  8)

I think this game gives GC hope for next year. With so many returning players, key players on both sides of the ball, and hopefully some more good recruits, GC just might make some noise in this conference next year.  :)

OK, now we got to get after NCW next week.  This is our playoff game ! ! ! !  >:(

Whew . . . I was starting to forget how good it felt to win . . . .  :D


WIN, PRIDE, WIN ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 04, 2006, 11:49:40 PM
D3Newbie-
Go ahead and gloat its unforunate that i couldn't go down today.  Good win for everybody that won today. A stat of note GC is 2-0 against teams that are listed as MC (There are still references that MU is still MC on the main website, the 50 year anniversary celebration) If that doesn't work GC is 2-0 in conference play in shools that begin with a M.

Its been a rough couple of weeks.  Finally my teams have won so far.

GC
Maryland
Plus went 14-4 on yahoo's pick'em this week  :o (my only gloating this evening.)
Ravens play the struggling Bengals tommorow (should be a good game)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 05, 2006, 12:04:57 AM
How bout them Captains. I heard the cougars put up a fight but the legacy of Pomoco grew just a little bit more after today. And yeah Pat. coach legg and my boys on D got the message LOUD and clear and shut the cougars out n the second half. Keep the focus because ferrum is now on the Pomoco clock.

Good game AU u guys have cme a long way since 2001.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on November 05, 2006, 12:28:05 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 04, 2006, 10:11:29 PM
Kickerdad and all of the AU faithful,

Congratulations on a breakout season!  It is fun to play "playoff" football in November! :)

Good luck in the off-season and have a good Holiday season, if you don't post again this year.

First off congrats to CNU, you've won the bid but if my memory serves me corectly we still get a share of that conference title which is our first so babysteps, we did come away with a big win today over CNU but that was back in danville for the volleyball tournament
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 05, 2006, 01:28:52 AM
Wow is all I have to say  :'( ....While I was off-shore fishing in a tournament and getting my butt beat (it was chock out there) I was thinking, dang it I wish I was at MC/MU's homecoming....but after placing in the tournament and reading what when on in Fayetteville, I'm glad I was out on Mother Ocean as rough as it might have been.
Narch, what happened?  Hopefully the guys haven't packed it in for the season! 
BBallguy...I still owe you that drink so if your ever my way let me know!

Congrats to CNU...sounds like it was a good game!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2006, 05:49:01 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 04, 2006, 08:21:57 PM
Thanks Kickerdad! What a game!! The Cougars are a tough team this year. The first few games of the season opened their eyes about playing with the big dogs. They never gave up today. Also - since you are Kickerdad....which kicker # is your kid?

CNU 85,

My son is #39 (Kicked extra points and the first field goal) He was 2nd team all conference last year, but has struggled this year. Having problems with his stride and some hip issues. Hopefully all that will be worked out during the off season and he will be back on track next year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2006, 05:53:29 AM
CNU 85

Sorry, one day I will figure out how to do the quotes on this system.

My son is #85, he kicked the extra points and the 1st field goal. He was 2nd team all conference last year, but has struggled this year with his stride and some hip problems. Hopefully he will have these issues worked out over  the off season and get back on track next year. Word is he may have to have some minor hip surgery, not sure yet. Will let the pro's take a look at it after the season.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2006, 05:55:15 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 05, 2006, 05:53:29 AM
CNU 85

Sorry, one day I will figure out how to do the quotes on this system.

My son is #85, he kicked the extra points and the 1st field goal. He was 2nd team all conference last year, but has struggled this year with his stride and some hip problems. Hopefully he will have these issues worked out over  the off season and get back on track next year. Word is he may have to have some minor hip surgery, not sure yet. Will let the pro's take a look at it after the season.



Still can't get it right, he is #39, you're 85.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 05, 2006, 09:32:28 AM
 :D ;D

Kickerdad...juicing it up before 6 am!!!! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 05, 2006, 10:09:41 AM
Quotes from Jennifer Williams' piece in the daily press.


"The game came down to kickoff returns and trick plays, and I guess you just hate to lose that way because we were the better team," said Averett coach Mike Dunlevy.

"We shot ourselves in the foot," said Cougars quarterback Todd Parsons. "We stopped ourselves. They didn't stop us."

*******
Wow- sour grapes or what - there were a few trick plays on both sides....not enough in my opinion to say that it made the difference in the game. G. Jones 67 yd TD run wasn't a trick play. He lined up at QB and ran up the middle. If that's considered a trick play, then AU wasn't watching game films! In fact, I'd have to say that more often than not, when CNU ran a trick play it didn't work. In that aspect of the game I would say Kelchner made some bonehead moves....see my earlier post. When your punter runs out on the field and he's wearing #8, EVERYONE in the stands knew we weren't punting. And, by the way, a few of those plays backfired, including a huge sack that gave AU the ball deep in CNU territory! Ummm...Throw the ball away!!

NO WAY was AU the better team yesterday! NO WAY! The teams were equal until halftime. CNU dominated after that!

AU was stopped cold in the second half...CNU allowed only 112 yards in the second half. If the AU QB (who is very good) wants to not give credit to the guys that beat him all over the field in the second half...well go ahead....they'll remember it next year in Danville and take it out on whomever the QB is in that game to show them what a real beating is like.


WCLegacy - let me know what the film shows, if anything.....I know it doesn't matter, but it would be nice to let the kid know he made superb catch and it was good! I, too thought the reffing was ok....one excpetion -  the guy in the white hat allowed too much holding, on both sides.....I saw guys running past O-lineman with jerseys stretched all over the place...no call. The other guys did call a good game and worked together.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 05, 2006, 10:43:08 AM

  Quotes from Jennifer Williams' piece in the daily press.


"The game came down to kickoff returns and trick plays, and I guess you just hate to lose that way because we were the better team," said Averett coach Mike Dunlevy.

"We shot ourselves in the foot," said Cougars quarterback Todd Parsons. "We stopped ourselves. They didn't stop us."



HMMM   If my memory is correct and I think it is because I have only seen 2 Wesley games this year is that Averett threw a feal flicker against Wesley which kept them in the game... sort of !!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 05, 2006, 11:45:02 AM
You only tie for the title if CNU wins and you defeat a tought maryville squad next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 05, 2006, 02:40:08 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 05, 2006, 10:09:41 AM
NO WAY was AU the better team yesterday! NO WAY! The teams were equal until halftime. CNU dominated after that!

AU was stopped cold in the second half...CNU allowed only 112 yards in the second half. If the AU QB (who is very good) wants to not give credit to the guys that beat him all over the field in the second half...well go ahead....they'll remember it next year in Danville and take it out on whomever the QB is in that game to show them what a real beating is like.

I'm kind of bummed to hear that the AU coach and quarterback didn't give CNU credit for a nice win. Both teams did play their hearts out, and I didn't think trick plays were a factor at all. CNU did do very well on special teams, which left them with some key field position on several drives.

I disagree with you CNU85 in saying that CNU dominated the second half. The Captains certainly played better, but until a minute left in the game, they had scored only 6 points after halftime. Neither AU no CNU seemed like the same teams once they came out of the locker rooms. Defense definitely took over in the second half.

I going to post some pics of the game, maybe under the site's phlogging section.

Kickerdad: is this your son? (I don't know how to make the photos appear bigger than this. Help anyone?)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 05, 2006, 04:01:45 PM
Seems that there were great games all over the USAC this weekend. I would have liked to see the showdown between CNU/ AU. Both of these teams have good players and seem to be well coached. I believe that everyone in the conference should thank CNU for setting the bar high for everyone. To me it has caused the level of competition in the conference to increase. There are several good teams. Ralph mentioned to the AU fans that it is great to see "playoff" football in November, to me that is how  the final week of the season seems to be setting up, with CNU, AU, NCWC, and Maryville all having a chance to be named at least conference co- champions, granted it is much harder for NCWC and Maryville. I will however stick by my statement that I have to like Maryville' s chances at winning at Averett, yet this should really turn into a great game just like CNU/ AU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 05, 2006, 04:54:00 PM
I'm in the process of setting next week's spreads for the pick-ems, and I came across this interesting juxtoposition.

2005
Ferrum beats NC Wesleyan 63-28

2006
Wesleyan beats Ferrum 55-14

Hmmmm, think someone was looking for payback?  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 05, 2006, 06:52:48 PM
Funny how Eh-You seems to have lost access to a computer all of a sudden, huh?  Well, then again, Danville isn't that far from Ferrum, so maybe he's been washing his drawers in the nearest stream since Saturday afternoon.

El Swisharoo

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on November 05, 2006, 09:03:43 PM
Wow!!! This is really interesting the Monarchs get beat by the Pride and Newbie calls out Narch and the Narch just disapears. I guess he is at home sitting on his pad trying to relive the pain in his backside from the other day. HERE NARCY, NARCHY, NARCHY where you at boy....lol....just a little humor but anyway great win for the Pride

Hey Pride its still MC till Jan 1....lol....so we did go 2-0 against the MC's
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2006, 09:06:24 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 05, 2006, 10:09:41 AM
Quotes from Jennifer Williams' piece in the daily press.


"The game came down to kickoff returns and trick plays, and I guess you just hate to lose that way because we were the better team," said Averett coach Mike Dunlevy.

"We shot ourselves in the foot," said Cougars quarterback Todd Parsons. "We stopped ourselves. They didn't stop us."

*******
Wow- sour grapes or what - there were a few trick plays on both sides....not enough in my opinion to say that it made the difference in the game. G. Jones 67 yd TD run wasn't a trick play. He lined up at QB and ran up the middle. If that's considered a trick play, then AU wasn't watching game films! In fact, I'd have to say that more often than not, when CNU ran a trick play it didn't work. In that aspect of the game I would say Kelchner made some bonehead moves....see my earlier post. When your punter runs out on the field and he's wearing #8, EVERYONE in the stands knew we weren't punting. And, by the way, a few of those plays backfired, including a huge sack that gave AU the ball deep in CNU territory! Ummm...Throw the ball away!!

NO WAY was AU the better team yesterday! NO WAY! The teams were equal until halftime. CNU dominated after that!

AU was stopped cold in the second half...CNU allowed only 112 yards in the second half. If the AU QB (who is very good) wants to not give credit to the guys that beat him all over the field in the second half...well go ahead....they'll remember it next year in Danville and take it out on whomever the QB is in that game to show them what a real beating is like.


WCLegacy - let me know what the film shows, if anything.....I know it doesn't matter, but it would be nice to let the kid know he made superb catch and it was good! I, too thought the reffing was ok....one excpetion -  the guy in the white hat allowed too much holding, on both sides.....I saw guys running past O-lineman with jerseys stretched all over the place...no call. The other guys did call a good game and worked together.

85, do me a favor and let me know which article you saw these comments in. I looked up the Daily Press online and read the one article on line by this lady and didn't see those comments in that particular ariticle.

I ask for the information because I was concerned about what was said but I don't believe Dunlevy talks like that. I went to the web site of the Danville Register Bee which is the newsaper in Danville (where Averett is located) and there was nothing said like that in his quotes to them.

So if you would please le me know which article and which paper. I think the comments in the Danville Register Bee pretty much summed up the truth of the game. I also think the CNU coachs comments in the Daily Press are very important.

Regarding the juicing up early in the morning........I WISH...

Good luck against Ferrum althought I will be pulling for you to lose. But I won't be putting any money on Ferrum. I think we are going to have our hands full against Maryville, they seem to be scoring at will against everyone the last several weeks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 05, 2006, 09:12:13 PM
He did kickerdad!! It was in sports, but she writes a Notebook as well as a game story on game day and it was in there. They may not post that on their website, but I read this morning and about fell out of my recliner!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2006, 09:12:57 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on November 05, 2006, 02:40:08 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 05, 2006, 10:09:41 AM
NO WAY was AU the better team yesterday! NO WAY! The teams were equal until halftime. CNU dominated after that!

AU was stopped cold in the second half...CNU allowed only 112 yards in the second half. If the AU QB (who is very good) wants to not give credit to the guys that beat him all over the field in the second half...well go ahead....they'll remember it next year in Danville and take it out on whomever the QB is in that game to show them what a real beating is like.

I'm kind of bummed to hear that the AU coach and quarterback didn't give CNU credit for a nice win. Both teams did play their hearts out, and I didn't think trick plays were a factor at all. CNU did do very well on special teams, which left them with some key field position on several drives.

I disagree with you CNU85 in saying that CNU dominated the second half. The Captains certainly played better, but until a minute left in the game, they had scored only 6 points after halftime. Neither AU no CNU seemed like the same teams once they came out of the locker rooms. Defense definitely took over in the second half.

I going to post some pics of the game, maybe under the site's phlogging section.

Kickerdad: is this your son? (I don't know how to make the photos appear bigger than this. Help anyone?)


WC - what is the link to the pictures....I have tried all night to click on Photo Galaries on the D3Sports.com home page and keep getting nothing.

Sorry didn't get over to your tail gate party, a friend of ours whose daughter plays field hockey for CNU went to the game with us and she directed me to the "N" lot and after I got there and got set up, I wasn't sure which way to walk to get to you. Plus I wasn't expecting that cold wind and all I thought about was staying warm.

I would like to meet you and 85 some day, maybe next year we can connect in Danville.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 05, 2006, 09:15:03 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on November 05, 2006, 09:03:43 PM
Wow!!! This is really interesting the Monarchs get beat by the Pride and Newbie calls out Narch and the Narch just disapears. I guess he is at home sitting on his pad trying to relive the pain in his backside from the other day. HERE NARCY, NARCHY, NARCHY where you at boy....lol....just a little humor but anyway great win for the Pride

Hey Pride its still MC till Jan 1....lol....so we did go 2-0 against the MC's

Hey GCGullet, read this and tell me what it says....

Hendricks said the new name recognizes the school's ties to its past and looks to the future.

"... From this day forward, our institution shall be named Methodist University, a name that in today's use of language more accurately signals who we are and what we do," he said.

Here's the full article that narch posted http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=245918
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2006, 09:17:58 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 05, 2006, 09:12:13 PM
He did kickerdad!! It was in sports, but she writes a Notebook as well as a game story on game day and it was in there. They may not post that on their website, but I read this morning and about fell out of my recliner!

Thanks for the info, I will try to find a Daily Press tomorrow from one of the mini marts. I am like you, that doesn't sound like Dunlevy........However if he did make those comments, I would have trouble agreeing. I didn't see a lot of trick plays (out of the ordinary) from either team. Everyone tries a fake punt, end around, double reverse,
half back option, etc., etc., so not sure what he saw that the crowd didn't see.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on November 05, 2006, 09:19:55 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 05, 2006, 09:15:03 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on November 05, 2006, 09:03:43 PM
Wow!!! This is really interesting the Monarchs get beat by the Pride and Newbie calls out Narch and the Narch just disapears. I guess he is at home sitting on his pad trying to relive the pain in his backside from the other day. HERE NARCY, NARCHY, NARCHY where you at boy....lol....just a little humor but anyway great win for the Pride

Hey Pride its still MC till Jan 1....lol....so we did go 2-0 against the MC's

Hey GCGullet, read this and tell me what it says....

Hendricks said the new name recognizes the school's ties to its past and looks to the future.

"... From this day forward, our institution shall be named Methodist University, a name that in today's use of language more accurately signals who we are and what we do," he said.

Here's the full article that narch posted http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=245918

Correct....BUT...i was told by people on the Methodist staff that it does not OFFICALY become leagal untill Jan 1 but they are goin to be refrenceing to MU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 05, 2006, 09:22:03 PM
Yeah that's legal. Did know a name change could officially become legal though. Ill take the word of the president anyday. But thanks for the insight.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on November 05, 2006, 09:26:33 PM
either way it was a great boost of confidence for the pride with that win, to be honest with yall other than the tournovers that is the best that I have seen the pride pay all yaer and now i am already looking foward to next season and what is to come but now, our focus has shifted towards the game next Sat. against the Bishops
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 05, 2006, 09:28:14 PM
Where is that game at next week? I hate to say it, but I think you guys might take a beating on that one. They are tough to handle and are a good good football team. If all those guys stay together next season, there's your preseason No. 1 right there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on November 05, 2006, 09:31:11 PM
I would have to agree that they are makin the bid for preseason #1 in the conf. I dont think we will take a beating next week. We might loose but i dont think it will be that bad it will be a close one
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 05, 2006, 09:35:44 PM
Im gonna have to disagree with you on that one GCGullett. NC Wesleyan is very good, you say what they did to CNU and Ferrum. Trust me, if 20 points is close, than Im Pope  Benedict.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 05, 2006, 09:37:04 PM
WHAT A WEEKEND. THE CAPTAINS SHUT OUT THE MIGHTY COUGARS IN THE SECOND HALF TO CONTROL THE USA SOUTH AND MY REDSKINS WON A THRILLER AT FED-EX. BOY O BOY 40 YARD LOWER LEVEL SEATS ARE REAL NICE IN A RIVALRY GAME.  AND IT WAS NICE TO RIDE THE BUS BACK TO THE MARRIOTT WITH VERY PISSED OFF COWBOY FANS INCLUDING THE GIRL FRIEND.


FINISH THE JOBS CAPS AND I'LL POST LATER ABOUT MY THOUGHTS ON THE GAME THAT WAS.

POMOCO  ;D ;D ??? I TOLD YOU AU FANS. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on November 05, 2006, 09:39:36 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 05, 2006, 09:35:44 PM
Im gonna have to disagree with you on that one GCGullett. NC Wesleyan is very good, you say what they did to CNU and Ferrum. Trust me, if 20 points is close, than Im Pope  Benedict.


Well just trying to keep the spirit up for a 4-5 season thats all but this is a much better season than last....lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on November 05, 2006, 09:41:40 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on November 05, 2006, 09:37:04 PM
WHAT A WEEKEND. THE CAPTAINS SHUT OUT THE MIGHTY COUGARS IN THE SECOND HALF TO CONTROL THE USA SOUTH AND MY REDSKINS WON A THRILLER AT FED-EX. BOY O BOY 40 YARD LOWER LEVEL SEATS ARE REAL NICE IN A RIVALRY GAME.  AND IT WAS NICE TO RIDE THE BUS BACK TO THE MARRIOTT WITH VERY PISSED OFF COWBOY FANS INCLUDING THE GIRL FRIEND.


FINISH THE JOBS CAPS AND I'LL POST LATER ABOUT MY THOUGHTS ON THE GAME THAT WAS.

POMOCO  ;D ;D ??? I TOLD YOU AU FANS. ;)


Lol.....i will be at the monday night game next week in carolina hopefully both my teams will win and I get to say the same thing....lol...but that is a good win for the Captains they beat a really good AU team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 05, 2006, 09:49:10 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on November 04, 2006, 10:54:19 PM
Quote from: narch on November 03, 2006, 09:01:57 PM
picks and prediction time

mu 31 - gc 14 - mike hill, mike hill and more mike hill...then sprinkle in a little brandon parks - the monarchs will control this game and go 1-0 as methodist university :)

Sooooo . . .what happened?   ::)

the monarchs played like...well, they played very poorly

Quote from: D3Newbie on November 04, 2006, 10:54:19 PM
Now, if The Pride are the lady lions, what does that make the Monarchs?  :P
a team that couldn't beat a bunch of lady lions

Quote from: D3Newbie on November 04, 2006, 10:54:19 PMnarch - I was very impressed with your campus and facilities. It was unusuall to have both school's fans on the same side of the field, but I found your fans to be very agreeable.  My compliments to your fans - someplace else might have been a little more irate to visitors who win at homecoming a game no one thought they would even be able to compete.  8)
yeah, a friend actually overheard a couple of gc fans complaining about our stadium, talking about how "small-time" it was...funny coming from a fan of a team that plays in a high school stadium - i'm glad to hear you were treated well...sometimes i wonder if our fans care enough to get irate, though, and yesterday was no exception - it's time that mc got some moveable bleachers and put them behind the visitors bench, though - it's just a matter of time before someone reacts to something being said, and something bad happens

a couple of observations, having had some time to cool off (a little):

torrey lowe is outstanding, and the gc coaches have done a great job utilizing him creatively...i wish the monarch coaches had decided to use bartee similarly because i think he'd be dangerous if used that way, but i saw him playing some defense, so i think his days on offense are numbered

#77 is huge...one of the biggest guys i've ever seen on a d3 football field - our o-line really struggled blocking anyone yesterday, especially him - #56 is pretty good, too - i was shocked at how ineffective our run game was and how much difficulty our guys had with the gc d-line - i heard that gc might blitz a lot, but i rarely saw more than 4 guys rushing - if you can't block 3 or 4 with 5, it makes for a long day, and that's what happened yesterday

the monarchs didn't tackle at all yesterday...they routinely got penetration and made contact in the backfield...and gc runners routinely shook off those arm tackles and gained positive yardage - i've never seen the monarchs tackle worse

on the other hand, the monarch runners seemed to go down at first contact - i know mike hill is a little banged up, but he just didn't look like himself yesterday...for that matter, nobody did - hill is usually a guy who runs very hard, despite his small frame, but he just didn't seem to have that fire yesterday - on the whole, i haven't seen a team that flat in a LONG time

parks threw some really bad balls - all of his picks yesterday were on poorly thrown balls or on really bad decisions - i'm sure prideguy and gullett will talk about how great the pride secondary is, but geez, i could have caught some of the balls thrown to them yesterday...the game seemed a little fast for him at times yesterday - i still like his potential a lot, though - what i especially liked was the way he led the team the last few series...he really showed some poise and came out trying to do everything he could to win that game after having such a horrible game for the first 3 quarters...it just fell a bit short  - long-term, the monarchs will be in good shape at qb with brandon parks...he's going to be a good one

honestly, yesterday was the worst that i've seen the monarchs play in at least 5 to 7 years...just pitiful football...yet they still had a chance to win the game at the end - tells you something about gc - while they were better than the monarchs yesterday, neither of those teams was very good - it was the type of game that makes you want to ask for a refund (especially if you're a fan on the losing end)

here is the game story (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=246279) from the fayetteville observer
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 05, 2006, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on November 05, 2006, 09:03:43 PM
Wow!!! This is really interesting the Monarchs get beat by the Pride and Newbie calls out Narch and the Narch just disapears. I guess he is at home sitting on his pad trying to relive the pain in his backside from the other day. HERE NARCY, NARCHY, NARCHY where you at boy....lol....just a little humor but anyway great win for the Pride

Hey Pride its still MC till Jan 1....lol....so we did go 2-0 against the MC's
gullett - sorry, i had some family obligations, but i'm back, just over 24 hours later...it's a little different than the hiatus you took - i figured you'd be back, though, if/when gc won again - typical fair-weather fan :)

and it's actually been mu since wednesday - the name change was "from this day forward" according to the mc/mu president - it will certainly take some time to change things like letterhead and print publications, etc., but those changes are already taking place, full-speed ahead

lastly, i'm not your boy...never have been, never will be - we can be chums on a message board and we can pick and poke at each other, but i'm clearly not your boy
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 05, 2006, 10:00:23 PM

lastly, i'm not your boy...never have been, never will be - we can be chums on a message board and we can pick and poke at each other, but i'm clearly not your boy
[/quote]

Oh how priceless! I love it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on November 05, 2006, 10:00:49 PM
thats kewl atleast we know that we were just kiddin around
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 05, 2006, 10:00:59 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 05, 2006, 10:00:23 PM

lastly, i'm not your boy...never have been, never will be - we can be chums on a message board and we can pick and poke at each other, but i'm clearly not your boy

Oh how priceless! I love it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on November 05, 2006, 10:01:44 PM
Narch where did you sit at I was in the little whole at the bottom left of the press box
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 05, 2006, 10:05:46 PM
Narch was in the luxury box drinking some bubbly  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 05, 2006, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on November 05, 2006, 10:01:44 PM
Narch where did you sit at I was in the little whole at the bottom left of the press box

i'm sure you mean hole, right?

i typically go mobile if the kids & wife will allow (which they did yesterday) - i kind of like moving around to get the best possible view of the play - if the kids aren't down for moving around, i try to find a flat spot in the grass somewhere and let the kids run around a little bit...that isn't the ideal way to watch a game, but it's better than not watching at all, and they're too young/full of energy to sit in the stands

papi - no bubbly yesterday...nothing on that field to celebrate
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 06, 2006, 12:15:16 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 05, 2006, 09:12:57 PM
WC - what is the link to the pictures....I have tried all night to click on Photo Galaries on the D3Sports.com home page and keep getting nothing.

Sorry didn't get over to your tail gate party, a friend of ours whose daughter plays field hockey for CNU went to the game with us and she directed me to the "N" lot and after I got there and got set up, I wasn't sure which way to walk to get to you. Plus I wasn't expecting that cold wind and all I thought about was staying warm.

I would like to meet you and 85 some day, maybe next year we can connect in Danville.

The pics aren't posted yet. I think the phlog goes up around midweek, so you'll have to wait till then.

We had a good crowd for the tailgate. It's too bad you couldn't make it over. I'll certainly bank on another opportunity down the road, though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on November 06, 2006, 09:22:21 AM
Sorry for the delay folks, I made a road trip out of the weekend and just got back. Congrats to the CNU guys. Everything about that place and that team is 1st class. #1 & #2 are the best offensive players that AU has seen this year. The way they use #1 is a huge credit to the CNU coaching staff. The POMOCO atmosphere is playoff-esque and AU got beat by the better team. Go Ferrum!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2006, 09:28:30 AM
Quote from: Eh-You on November 06, 2006, 09:22:21 AM
Sorry for the delay folks, I made a road trip out of the weekend and just got back. Congrats to the CNU guys. Everything about that place and that team is 1st class. #1 & #2 are the best offensive players that AU has seen this year. The way they use #1 is a huge credit to the CNU coaching staff. The POMOCO atmosphere is playoff-esque and AU got beat by the better team. Go Ferrum!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Like your avatar, Eh-you!  LOL, ROTFLMAO

Beat Maryville and get your Co-Champs rings! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 06, 2006, 09:32:21 AM
WCLegacy - great picture, you got the right one. Thanks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2006, 10:57:49 AM
Dang....GC wins and Gullet comes out of the woodwork like a cockroach! Does your boss know you're posting?

Kickerdad.....I'll try to post the link. I looked at it online and did a copy/paste of the quotes......I'm too lazy to have read it and then keyed it in the post.

or you can try going to dailypress.com....search the site for CNU and you'll get 2 articles from Jennifer. It's in one of them...not sure which one.

Legacy...great pic...I'll look forward to the rest. (dude...go digital!!)  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2006, 11:32:55 AM


http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-71565sy0nov05,1,6548753.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-71565sy0nov05,1,6548753.story)

see if this works.....when I went back to the article this morning I had to log in again...you may need to register...it's free.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 06, 2006, 12:33:02 PM
I don't know what to say.  I thought the whole year CNU was the best team.  (I never once said GC was going to win the conference, but I did say they weren't going to finish last.  I believe I did say 4 or 5 though, can't remeber and 5th could be where they end up 6th too.)

After the AU-GC game I told Legacy AU was the best team.
NCWC proves it by beating CNU.
CNU then beats AU. 
So who is the best team in the conference? CNU or AU?

I am up in the air on the pick.  CNU was my pick the whole year.  I think I will stick with that.  What's the postseason look like? 2 teams or 1?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on November 06, 2006, 01:36:02 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 06, 2006, 12:33:02 PM
So who is the best team in the conference? CNU or AU?
What's the postseason look like? 2 teams or 1?

Pretty easy question about who the best team is after Saturday. No question CNU. Also no question that CNU is the only team to get a playoff bid.

How's this for a terrible loss - AU goes from outright champion possibility to possibly finishing in a 3 way tie for second - all in one week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 06, 2006, 03:29:08 PM
I agree with everyone, i think CNU wins the bid to the playoffs, however there could be an at large bid for averett because of the strength of their schedule. Averett just couldnt convert in the redzone on saturday and has anyone mentioned that hughley could be the best reciever in the conference.

As for the monarchs game with the pride, terrible execution. The defense played well, lowe is a good football player. When a team has 5 turnovers, you really dont win the ballgame anyways. But GC had their fare share, and so did methodist. I hope they can go up to shentel and come away with a win. Just a little insight for Monarch fans however. If anyone remembers roncketti's freshman year, he threw for 18 int's. Look what happened with him later on, he was PLAYER OF THE YEAR. Parks looks pretty good and can move pretty well outside the pocket. Remember people he is a freshman. H e did throw into double coverage, he did try to make plays and force the ball, but hell, thats what a QB does. He will get better and be a hell of a player for the monarchs in the future.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2006, 03:35:31 PM
Legacy...after the first half, I would say CNU dominated...outscored AU 13-0...moved the ball well...and not only shutout AU, but also held them to just 112 yards......I think it's all relative.....when compared to the first half, I would say that wa a complete shutdown of AU......either way I'll take the W.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 06, 2006, 07:30:50 PM
Doesn't seem to be a lot of talk considering the amount of big games this weekend. I know it is a long shot, but there could possibly be a four way tie for conference champs. Just for grins and giggles what would the tie- braker or tie- brakers be if that happens? I believe that whoever represents the USASAC will be a positive reflection of the level of football played in our conference.

Hey Eh- You- Nov. 11 sure matters to the Scots as well as I hope it matters to the Cougars. That way the game could turn out to be a classic USASAC game with maybe conference championship implications.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob.Gregg on November 06, 2006, 08:09:57 PM
How about some tie-breaker info, guys?

Situation 1
Ferrum > CNU
Maryville > Averett
Greensboro > NC Wesleyan

CNU, Maryville, Averett all 5-2.  CNU has wins over the other two.  What's the tie-breaker?


Situation 2
Ferrum > CNU
Maryville > Averett
NC Wesleyan > Greensboro

CNU, Maryville, Averett, NCW all 5-2.  What's the tie-breaker story?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 06, 2006, 09:29:44 PM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 06, 2006, 08:09:57 PM
How about some tie-breaker info, guys?

Situation 1
Ferrum > CNU
Maryville > Averett
Greensboro > NC Wesleyan

CNU, Maryville, Averett all 5-2.  CNU has wins over the other two.  What's the tie-breaker?

cnu because of head-to-head vs. mc and au

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 06, 2006, 08:09:57 PM
Situation 2
Ferrum > CNU
Maryville > Averett
NC Wesleyan > Greensboro

CNU, Maryville, Averett, NCW all 5-2.  What's the tie-breaker story?

cnu again - cnu and mc would be 2-1 in head-to-head vs. the other 3 teams, while ncwc and au would be 1-2...the 2nd level of tie break between mc and cnu would be the head-to-head win by cnu vs. mc

i believe the only situation in which cnu would NOT be the usasac rep is if au beats mc and cnu loses to fc...highly unlikely, but could happen
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 06, 2006, 09:37:24 PM
this isn't exactly football, but here is a story from the saturday fayetteville observer that chronicles the rise of mu athletics (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=246198)...interesting read, and lots of talk about the start of the monarch football program
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 06, 2006, 10:40:13 PM
+1 for Narch, thanks for the info. Even if Maryville might not have a chance to represent the conference it would still be a great accompliment to have a chance to be named co- champs. Maryville's players seem to be understanding the level of commitment it takes to be competitive. I hope that they are able to use this season as a building block to become a consistent top level team in the conference, and then proceed to becoming a player on the national scene. But, it is important that they become consistent in all aspects of their program. At this level retention and off- season work-outs as well as being able to recruit are tremendously important. May everyone play injury- free this weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 07, 2006, 10:44:51 AM
Things have been slow on here since yesterday, so I'll just throw some stats and stuff out there for people to ponder.

I was looking through the conference stat lists, trying to get an idea of who would be candidates for year-end awards and other recognition. And one thing I noticed is that the Bishops are going to be stacked next year. None of their playmakers on offense are seniors this year, which means they'll likely have all their big guns back next season. Take a look.

Quarterback
Cedric Townsend (JR): No. 1 in conference in passing yards with 1,977 and passing TDs with 14; averaging 219 yards per game; No. 6 in pass efficiency.

Running Back
Teron Bush (FR): No. 5 in conference in rushing yards; averaging 8.9 yards per carry and 72.4 yards per game.

Receivers
Shel Leverette (SO): No. 3 in conference in receptions with 38; No. 2 in yards per game with 70.1; has 631 total receiving yards.
Mich Gilliam (JR): No. 7 in receptions with 24; No. 6 in yards per game with 49; has 441 total receiving yards.
Orlando Webb (FR): No. 9 in receptions with 20; No. 3 in yards per game with 62.6; has 501 total receiving yards.

Both of the freshmen I've mentioned are strong candidates to be the USA South's Offensive Rookie of the Year. Does this team's potential next year scare anyone else?   :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 07, 2006, 11:36:20 AM
Narch and Papi
Sorry about your team. A team does not lose a "Rocket" and go 9-1 but I thought they would do much better.

Papi that was not bubbly. that was Jack he had
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 07, 2006, 01:25:09 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on November 07, 2006, 10:44:51 AM
Things have been slow on here since yesterday, so I'll just throw some stats and stuff out there for people to ponder.

I was looking through the conference stat lists, trying to get an idea of who would be candidates for year-end awards and other recognition. And one thing I noticed is that the Bishops are going to be stacked next year. None of their playmakers on offense are seniors this year, which means they'll likely have all their big guns back next season. Take a look.

Quarterback
Cedric Townsend (JR): No. 1 in conference in passing yards with 1,977 and passing TDs with 14; averaging 219 yards per game; No. 6 in pass efficiency.

Running Back
Teron Bush (FR): No. 5 in conference in rushing yards; averaging 8.9 yards per carry and 72.4 yards per game.

Receivers
Shel Leverette (SO): No. 3 in conference in receptions with 38; No. 2 in yards per game with 70.1; has 631 total receiving yards.
Mich Gilliam (JR): No. 7 in receptions with 24; No. 6 in yards per game with 49; has 441 total receiving yards.
Orlando Webb (FR): No. 9 in receptions with 20; No. 3 in yards per game with 62.6; has 501 total receiving yards.

Both of the freshmen I've mentioned are strong candidates to be the USA South's Offensive Rookie of the Year. Does this team's potential next year scare anyone else?   :o

On the topic of who should be voted where.  I hope you all go out and do your duty and VOTE TODAY!!!  I am registered in MD, so i have an absentee ballot to go fill out some time today.  If any of you have kids encourage them to do the Kids Voting, instill the demorcatic process in them early will pay off in the long run. Ok I will step off my soap box now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 07, 2006, 01:53:56 PM
Quote from: MCol51 on November 06, 2006, 03:29:08 PM
I agree with everyone, i think CNU wins the bid to the playoffs, however there could be an at large bid for averett because of the strength of their schedule. Averett just couldnt convert in the redzone on saturday and has anyone mentioned that hughley could be the best reciever in the conference.

As for the monarchs game with the pride, terrible execution. The defense played well, lowe is a good football player. When a team has 5 turnovers, you really dont win the ballgame anyways. But GC had their fare share, and so did methodist. I hope they can go up to shentel and come away with a win. Just a little insight for Monarch fans however. If anyone remembers roncketti's freshman year, he threw for 18 int's. Look what happened with him later on, he was PLAYER OF THE YEAR. Parks looks pretty good and can move pretty well outside the pocket. Remember people he is a freshman. H e did throw into double coverage, he did try to make plays and force the ball, but hell, thats what a QB does. He will get better and be a hell of a player for the monarchs in the future.



     I wouldn't hold my breath on AU getting a bid. As a USA South fan, I would love to see them get one. Not likely though.  :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 07, 2006, 02:15:50 PM
ABN, if it was Jim, Jack, or Jerry it would be fine by me.  I think Narch like's to add a slice of lime to his drink, probably to fight off scurvy!!!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 07, 2006, 02:19:53 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on November 07, 2006, 02:15:50 PM
think Narch like's to add a slice of lime to his drink

doh...you're killing me papi...i've got a reputation to uphold and you go spreading these truths
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 07, 2006, 02:30:28 PM
Those guys are even more impressive when you look at their conference only stats (to normalize the difference between out of conference schedules):

Quarterback
Cedric Townsend (JR): No. 1 in conference in passing yards with 1,977 and passing TDs with 14; averaging 219 yards per game; No. 6 in pass efficiency.

conference only stats - #1 in yardage with 212.5 ypg, 8 td (#2)/4 int (#2), 52.5% comp, 132.0 eff rating (#3) - by far the best in conference numbers in my mind

Running Back
Teron Bush (FR): No. 5 in conference in rushing yards; averaging 8.9 yards per carry and 72.4 yards per game.

conference only stats - 103.5 ypg (#2), 9.3 ypc (#1 by a long shot), 5 td

Receivers
Shel Leverette (SO): No. 3 in conference in receptions with 38; No. 2 in yards per game with 70.1; has 631 total receiving yards.
conference only - 3.83 rpg (#3), 312 yds
Mich Gilliam (JR): No. 7 in receptions with 24; No. 6 in yards per game with 49; has 441 total receiving yards.
conference only - 2.83 rpg (#6), 348 yds, 4 tds
Orlando Webb (FR): No. 9 in receptions with 20; No. 3 in yards per game with 62.6; has 501 total receiving yards.
conference only - 53.7 ypg (#5)

Both of the freshmen I've mentioned are strong candidates to be the USA South's Offensive Rookie of the Year. Does this team's potential next year scare anyone else?   :o
if those guys stay in school....yes
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 07, 2006, 04:06:44 PM
NCWC could be the pride of the conference the next few years.  The school is in a pretty good area for HS talent and if they become part of the UNC system down the road, watch out! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 07, 2006, 05:26:16 PM
For those interested, my game photos from the CNU-AU game are posted.

http://www.pictureprints.net/photographers.php?photographer=D3Sports
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 07, 2006, 05:44:08 PM
Quote from: MCol51 on November 06, 2006, 03:29:08 PM
I agree with everyone, i think CNU wins the bid to the playoffs, however there could be an at large bid for averett because of the strength of their schedule. Averett just couldnt convert in the redzone on saturday and has anyone mentioned that hughley could be the best reciever in the conference.


Umm, no.  It will be a cold day in you-know-where before a team with no quality wins and three losses of any stripe gets a Pool C bid. 

Strength of Schedule doesn't mean a thing if all you do is lose to the good teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 07, 2006, 07:26:55 PM
Gonna have to agree with BfB on that one.  USASAC will only be sending one team to the playoffs this season.  AU strength of schedule was great but they don't have the quality wins necessary to get a Pool C bid.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 07, 2006, 08:27:28 PM
legacy - great pics!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2006, 09:39:48 AM
NCW scares me to death for next year! The winner of the CNU/NCW game next year will win the conference outright! I've watched a few of the NCW players whent hey were in high school since many are from around here! Too bad they didn't meet CNU academic standards when they were being recruited!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bill McCabe on November 08, 2006, 09:45:17 AM
CNU85, what did you think of the playoff projections having CNU come to UMHB?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2006, 09:58:38 AM
Bill,

a few thoughts crossed my mind:

1st - We gotta beat Ferrum on Saturday ....take care of bidness, then worry about playoffs
2nd - As long as CNU is in, the rest is out of thier control as to who/where they play...if they're playing - I'm happy

I sound like a coach, huh?

3rd - If we go to UMHB the playoff run is over - UMHB will not allow themselves to lose...they'll be ticked off and at home in the playoffs!!! I don't like it (now I sound like a fan!!).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2006, 09:59:53 AM
Legacy - very nice photos....I'm pushing a sale for you on pic #15!! I'll keep you posted!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bill McCabe on November 08, 2006, 10:00:21 AM
Is Saturday a game you should win?  It is strange to have a rematch right off the bat, especially since the schools are so far apart distance wise.  Good luck Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2006, 10:08:59 AM
Yes, we should win. But here's what scares me......When CNU joined the league we beat FC a few years to win the playoff birth. This year, Ferrum was picked by the coaches to win the conference and they have self destructed. It would be a nice feather in their cap to beat CNU and they have the capability to do so, if they can find the pieces they've been missing all year. I'm glad it's a home gane for CNU!!

Thanks for the support.....also, I'm seriously considering going to the UMHB game next year in Texas...maybe we can get together for dinner the night before with other fans on these boards!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 08, 2006, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 08, 2006, 09:59:53 AM
Legacy - very nice photos....I'm pushing a sale for you on pic #15!! I'll keep you posted!

Right on. Thanks 85!  :) That's quite possibly my favorite shot of the day.

And narch, thank you too for the compliment.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bill McCabe on November 08, 2006, 10:33:28 AM
CNU85, hope you can make it to Texas.  Come early enough on Friday to catch a HS game.  There are several top notch programs in the Belton area.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2006, 01:41:09 PM
That would be good, Bill...to watch a HS game. In this area, HS football is huge as well. I'd like to be able to see good HS ball somewhere else to see how it's done. When I was in HS, my HS and the famed Hampton Crabbers were rivals...winner of that last game of the season usually won the state championship. I can remember going to that last game and there would be 10,000 people at the game. I also remember seeing guys with clipboards walking around with shirts that said..Tennessee Coaching Staff, or Ohio State Coaching Staff. I can also remember one day in the hallsof my HS....there was our coach and (this was in the late 70's) he was with Woody Hayes (I think he was wearing bright yellow pants that day) and Dan Devine at the same time! Woody won and got 2 players.....brothers Jimmy and Sean Gayle. I'm sure you have similar, interesting stories. It's all good stuff.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 08, 2006, 02:41:39 PM
Methodist @ SU- MU wins this one. Methodist does pretty good against the run, and SU cannot pass the ball. Brandon Lacey does scare me though. He has ran pretty well against us in the past, except last year. The monarchs do fine and come away with a win.

Ferrum @ CNU- CNU wins this one at home in a big way. Ferrum gets demolished. CNU are Co-Champs again.

Maryville @ Averett- AU knows what is at stake with this game. I think it will be close but AU wins it by 10. Maryville will not be a pushover though so be careful Averett. Hughley and parsons will not let you guys loose.

GC @ NCWC- The surprise team in the conference. Wesleyan is young and has leadership on their team. The QB is awesome and Terron Bush is just blowin it up this year. Wesleyan will be the team to beat next year i think.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 08, 2006, 02:55:22 PM
I would like to say i have been very impressed this year with the play of NCWC. Their running back and QB will lead next year and i think they will be the team to beat.

I think the conference is getting stronger and has every year. Look at this for an example. The conference has had two different champions every year and they have been different. CNU and SU has won it twice together, but then you got, Ferrum, Methodist, and now this year i think AU will be the other one. I think that says something for the competitiveness of our conference. Which brings me back to the discussion of why someone would want to leave the conference. Besides the fact i think NCWC, and Maryville could potentially be in the mix in the next couple of years which would mean that the only team not to have won the championship would be greensboro. Not knocking them or nothin i was just making a point. Great play this year guys its been a good year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on November 09, 2006, 03:57:25 PM

This board is just tooooo quiet . . . . .  ???


How bad will Greensboro beat NCWC Saturday ?  ;D

If CNU loses does that mean they don't go to the playoffs ?  :-\

Anybody still there, or has everyone gone to the gym for BB ?  ::)



WIN, PRIDE, WIN ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 09, 2006, 05:24:35 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on November 09, 2006, 03:57:25 PM
If CNU loses does that mean they don't go to the playoffs ?  :-\

newbie - this scrolled off pretty quickly, so i'll re-post

i'm 98% sure i'm right (although i was 99% sure the monarchs would beat the lady lions last week, too :))

Quote from: narch on November 06, 2006, 09:29:44 PM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 06, 2006, 08:09:57 PM
How about some tie-breaker info, guys?

Situation 1
Ferrum > CNU
Maryville > Averett
Greensboro > NC Wesleyan

CNU, Maryville, Averett all 5-2.  CNU has wins over the other two.  What's the tie-breaker?

cnu because of head-to-head vs. mc and au

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 06, 2006, 08:09:57 PM
Situation 2
Ferrum > CNU
Maryville > Averett
NC Wesleyan > Greensboro

CNU, Maryville, Averett, NCW all 5-2.  What's the tie-breaker story?

cnu again - cnu and mc would be 2-1 in head-to-head vs. the other 3 teams, while ncwc and au would be 1-2...the 2nd level of tie break between mc and cnu would be the head-to-head win by cnu vs. mc

i believe the only situation in which cnu would NOT be the usasac rep is if au beats mc and cnu loses to fc...highly unlikely, but could happen
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on November 09, 2006, 06:43:22 PM
QuoteSituation 3
Ferrum > CNU
Averett > Maryville
Greensboro > NC Wesleyan

Soooo -  this would mean that Averett would represent USAC in the playoffs - right?  :-\



Hopefully, this playoff stuff will be much more interesting to us GC fans next year . . . . :(




WIN, PRIDE, WIN ! ! !  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 09, 2006, 06:59:17 PM
Here's another thought...CNU can lose and still get in.....AU would have to lose as well. Or maybe all that is in the scenarios Narch spelled out that my brain just dunt wanna work that way tonight.

it's fantasy football re-entry draft night!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 09, 2006, 07:15:06 PM
85 you've got fantasy on the brain....and it's about football ???   :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 09, 2006, 10:04:52 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on November 09, 2006, 06:43:22 PM
QuoteSituation 3
Ferrum > CNU
Averett > Maryville
Greensboro > NC Wesleyan

Soooo -  this would mean that Averett would represent USAC in the playoffs - right?  :-\

yes...and so would this :)

Ferrum > CNU
Averett > Maryville
NC Wesleyan > Greensboro
MU > SU

in either of the above scenarios (or any combination possible combination of a cnu loss coupled with an averett win OR an averett loss coupled to a cnu win) the usasac would also have its first outright champion
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2006, 10:50:21 AM
Papi......21 years of marriage will do that to a guy!!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 10, 2006, 11:22:55 AM
That's what I hear  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 10, 2006, 09:40:42 PM
Papi and CNU

29 years of hell.....er....... I mean marriage does it to you ;)

29 Years next month and I remember throwing up in dowtown Beaufort on 25 years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on November 10, 2006, 10:18:27 PM

Gotcha there - -  only 32 years of true bliss next February . . . .  :-*



. . . . . . . . . . . . . they do say ignorance is bliss - right?   :-\







WIN,  PRIDE,  WIN ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 10, 2006, 10:24:18 PM
D3
Aw......as pinhead said........."your suffering will be legendary....even in hell" ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 11, 2006, 01:55:19 AM
ABN...yea, i've had my share of abdominal pyrotechnics throughout the years on Beaufort's waterfront!!!  The "dockside" kinda causes it doesn't it??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 11, 2006, 10:27:25 AM
man...the week of the last season and this board has dried up with football talk....instead we be chattin' about marriage and puke.

hmm....there's a "man law" in there somewhere!!

"Baby, I need your lovin'".....sorry...went to see the Four Tops last night at CNU....with Gary US Bonds......those old Motown guys were jammin'.......

speaking of jammin.....I've gotta get ready to go wacth CNU jack somebody up!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 11, 2006, 10:31:26 AM
hey...just thinking about something....If there's a student out there needing a research topic for Pyschology...how about this.....

Correlation between lengthy marriages and dried up old husbands posting on d3 sports.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bill McCabe on November 11, 2006, 10:39:02 AM
CNU85, I will volunteer to be a subject!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 11, 2006, 10:42:34 AM
Bill,

you need to pass a qualification test:

1. have you been married more than 20 years?
2. Are you  a dried up old husband?

dang...this is bad......football anyone?????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bill McCabe on November 11, 2006, 10:47:45 AM
26 years, not quite a prune, yet.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 11, 2006, 01:22:14 PM
Any scores out there??

Averett 14-0 with about 6 minutes to go 1st Q.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 11, 2006, 02:15:28 PM
Halftime

Averett 17 Maryville 16.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 11, 2006, 02:38:29 PM
Halftime Scores

CNU 34 Ferrum 0.
Shenandoah 7 Methodist 3.
North Carolina Wesleyan 21 Greensboro 20.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 11, 2006, 02:49:52 PM
Go CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.

Pomoco..... PEACE OF MIND!!!!!!!!!! OF COURSE. LOL   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 11, 2006, 03:07:01 PM
5:00 left 3rd Quarter Averett 37-16.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 11, 2006, 03:44:22 PM
Final CNU 55 Ferrum 7.

Was Ferrum the pre-season favorite? ouch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 11, 2006, 03:53:39 PM
Day-am!!!

Whata game for CNU...total domination. Let's see where we end up next week!!

AU - great season!! NCW - Next year is looking good for you guys!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 11, 2006, 04:04:40 PM
Final: Averett 58 Maryville 44.

Congrats AU, first Co-Championship in school history.

They've come a long way baby!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 11, 2006, 04:07:37 PM
Who is the likely opponent for CNU in the playoffs?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 11, 2006, 04:24:10 PM
Quote from: Leatherhelmet on November 11, 2006, 04:04:40 PM
Final: Averett 58 Maryville 44.

Congrats AU, first Co-Championship in school history.
They've come a long way baby!

Congratulations, Averett!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2006, 05:37:27 PM
monarchs win 9-7...hill got 121 and the monarch defense came to play, holding su to under 70 yards rushing - parks was 4-8 with 20 yds - larkin got 3 fg's and su missed a 30 yarder to win with :12 left (if i remember the box score correctly) - 4-6 isn't what i expected, but there is a lot to build on
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 11, 2006, 08:41:45 PM
9-7 was that the baseball score?  That must have been one ugly game but glad to see the monarchs came out on top. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 11, 2006, 08:42:27 PM
Congrats to CNU and AU on their co-championship and good luck to CNU in the playoffs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2006, 08:53:19 PM
here is the box score (http://www.su.edu/athletics/fb/2006/111106.htm#GAME.IND) for the game - with the 121 today, hill falls 19 yards shy of 1000 for the season - the monarchs really need to make getting him some help a priority in the offseason - todays performance aside, he seemed to wear down a bit toward the end of the season...he needs someone to take 10-12 carries a game off his 165 lb shoulders and be effective doing it

congrats to au and cnu...those teams were clearly the cream of the conference this year and deserve their championship - cnu, rep the conference well...i have a feeling there is a trip to belton in the works for you...show those boys the first time wasn't a fluke if they are indeed who you get!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on November 11, 2006, 10:03:02 PM
Quote from: Leatherhelmet on November 11, 2006, 02:38:29 PM
Halftime Scores

CNU 34 Ferrum 0.
Shenandoah 7 Methodist 3.
North Carolina Wesleyan 21 Greensboro 20.

The Pride did not score in the second half, so they do not make the playoffs. :'(

But they do end up wth 3 wins! That's three times last year's total! That means they are on pace for 9 wins next year!!  ;D

With almost all of their key players returning next year, they have a chance for great improvement, building on the good things they did this year. :)

Yes, I was raised to be an optimist!! You never know, but with a little work, I think the talent is there and experience of this year is invaluable. 8)

(NOTE: Always borrow money from an pessimist - they never expect you to pay them back . .  ;)  )





Be Committed, PRIDE, Be Committed ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 11, 2006, 10:03:50 PM
there's a lot of talk about CNU going on the road. I'd like to see the reasoning behind it. CNU has 1 region loss, a region win against UMHB and the only non region loss was to Rowan....I  think that deserves a home game.....a trip to UMHB (a team we beat) just doesn't seem to be the right thing to do.  A trip to Wesley doesn't seem right for round 1....W&L should go to Wesley....but what do I know?

i am a little biased in my thoughts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BVHawk on November 11, 2006, 10:04:16 PM
Congrats to Christopher Newport on making the post season and best of luck!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 11, 2006, 10:07:32 PM
Congrats on a good USASouth football season.  I hope we all get our wishes and we can have two representatives en route to the Stagg Bowl.  I can't really say if I am disappointed or relieved on the Pride season.  They have equaled the amount of wins they have had in the last two seasons.  They beat a very good Maryville team and, and beat methodist the second time in school history.  Our QB's should be back next year, plus most if not all of your secondary/defense plus most of our offense is back.  I hope with the expericence they have gained this year will help us next year, and maybe we will have our first winning season (Lost 3 games we shouldn't have lost GC, SU and FC.) Congrats on the Pride and not finishing last this year, like I said the whole year.

How can the 2004 and 2005 champs go from first to the bottom?  I guess that is d3football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 12, 2006, 05:42:45 AM
Congrats to CNU. I know that you will represent the conference very well in the playoffs. To everyone I hope that you have a safe and productive off- season. I would love to see every team be able to retain and train their players, if that occurs I truly believe that this conference will have a defining year next season. From what I have seen and heard the past two seasons the level of play and the amount of play-makers is on a constant increase.

P.S. I know I am a day late, but thanks to all of the Veterans who have served or continue to serve. God Bless You.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 12, 2006, 10:41:50 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 11, 2006, 10:07:32 PMI hope we all get our wishes and we can have two representatives en route to the Stagg Bowl.
not even a REMOTE possibility...not close - there are a number of 1 loss teams, who played good schedules, who will be left out of the field - read the projections on the front page and start to understand the selection process by reading the playoff faq's and understanding qowi...it will really serve you well as a fan of d3 football (and, for that matter, d3 sports in general)

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 11, 2006, 10:07:32 PMCongrats on the Pride and not finishing last this year, like I said the whole year.
yeah, 'cause a tie for next-to-last and losing at home to the last place team is so much better than last place :)...i guess it's a matter of perception, because the monarchs finished with the same conference record as the pride (and lost to the pride) and, as a fan, i'm extremely disappointed with the season

but hey, congrats on being right about them not finishing last (did anyone really think they would finish behind su?)
Title: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scots71 on November 12, 2006, 11:46:47 AM
Congrats to CNU and AU.  Great seasons.  My Scots are getting better.  Their young, only 4 starters grad out this year.  So, maybe next year we'll be more competitive.  I read these post often.  However, this is my first post.  I normally don't complain alot or make many predictions, although I do have my opinions.  However, I was really disapointed with the AU fans this past saturday.  There were alot of rude, crude and uncalled for comments from the AU fans.  I have no porblem with being excited and pulling for a team. I even enjoy old fashion ribbing between fans.  However, college football is no place for the comments I heard yelled out Saturday.  I feel very confident that MC fans would not allow this kind of classless stuff to take place at our home field. I will return in two years for another great game. Maybe the jerks, I ment gentelmens, kids will be gone so we want have to endure comments this classless the next go round.  Have a great off season and goodluck to all next year.     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 12, 2006, 11:51:02 AM
Narch-
If I said we will get two teams in postseason I would have said so.  I said WISHES, WISHES.

My understanding is raw at best, but I believe it was me that implied we would get 3 teams in for men's soccer and two teams in for women's soccer while others seemed to disagree.  Call that lucky or not. 

I have seen QOWI at its worst at the high school level and how it works.  I would say I have a very good understanding of what makes playoff teams.  Regardless, I said WISHES.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 12, 2006, 11:53:44 AM
Hey I thought the USA South would get three soccer teams in!!

I think the Capts travel and Im starting to believe more and more by the minute that they will be wheels up on a plane thursday or friday for Hardin-Simmons. Deep in the  HEART of TEXAS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scots71 on November 12, 2006, 11:59:09 AM
Congrats to CNU and AU.  Great seasons.  My Scots are getting better.  Their young, only 4 starters grad out this year.  So, maybe next year we'll be more competitive.  I read these post often.  However, this is my first post.  I normally don't complain alot or make many predictions, although I do have my opinions.  However, I was really disapointed with the AU fans this past saturday.  There were alot of rude, crude and uncalled for comments from the AU fans.  I have no porblem with being excited and pulling for a team. I even enjoy old fashion ribbing between fans.  However, college football is no place for the comments I heard yelled out Saturday.  I feel very confident that MC fans would not allow this kind of classless stuff to take place at our home field. I will return in two years for another great game. Maybe the jerks, I ment gentelmens, kids will be gone so we want have to endure comments this classless the next go round.  Have a great off season and goodluck to all next year.     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 12, 2006, 02:14:49 PM
CNU vs. W&J.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 12, 2006, 02:16:18 PM
YYYEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS......

Friday night hoops starts...saturday a home NCAA playoff game!!!!

YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS..

gotta get my tickets!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 12, 2006, 02:17:48 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 12, 2006, 02:35:42 PM
Congrats to CNU on the home game!!!  Take care of bizniz this week and in TX next, then on to Wesley. ;) Good Luck!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 12, 2006, 03:10:56 PM
I dont like to look ahead, but if CNU wins and UMHB wins, it will mean three meetings between the Capts and UMHB in what, about a year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 12, 2006, 03:17:38 PM
Heres the release on the CNU website

Football To Host Washington & Jefferson In First Round Of NCAA Playoffs

NEWPORT NEWS, VA - Christopher Newport's football team, coming off a 55-7 win over Ferrum to clinch the USA South's automatic bid into the NCAA Playoffs, will host Washington & Jefferson this Saturday at POMOCO Stadium at 12 pm.

The Presidents went 9-1 in the regular season and 6-0 in the Presidents' Athletic Conference and received an automatic bid into the NCAA Tournament. This will be the third time these two teams have met, with all three meetings coming in the NCAA Tournament.

Washington & Jefferson won both meetings at home and this will be the first time the Presidents and the Captains will meet in Newport News. Washington & Jefferson defeated CNU in the Captains second season back on November 23, 2002, 24-10. The second meeting came two years later when the Presidents were again victorious, this time by a score of 24-14.

The Captains are a perfect 5-0 at home this and are 24-7 all-time at POMOCO Stadium. CNU finished the regular season with an 8-2 overall record and 6-1 in the USA South. The winner of the CNU/Washington & Jefferson match-up will meet the winner of the Mary Hardin-Baylor/Hardin-Simmons game on Saturday, November 25.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 12, 2006, 03:33:20 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 12, 2006, 03:17:38 PM
Heres the release on the CNU website

Football To Host Washington & Jefferson In First Round Of NCAA Playoffs

NEWPORT NEWS, VA - Christopher Newport's football team, coming off a 55-7 win over Ferrum to clinch the USA South's automatic bid into the NCAA Playoffs, will host Washington & Jefferson this Saturday at POMOCO Stadium at 12 pm.

The Presidents went 9-1 in the regular season and 6-0 in the Presidents' Athletic Conference and received an automatic bid *** into the NCAA Tournament. This will be the third time these two teams have met, with all three meetings coming in the NCAA Tournament.

Washington & Jefferson won both meetings at home and this will be the first time the Presidents and the Captains will meet in Newport News. Washington & Jefferson defeated CNU in the Captains second season back on November 23, 2002, 24-10. The second meeting came two years later when the Presidents were again victorious, this time by a score of 24-14.

The Captains are a perfect 5-0 at home this and are 24-7 all-time at POMOCO Stadium. CNU finished the regular season with an 8-2 overall record and 6-1 in the USA South. The winner of the CNU/Washington & Jefferson match-up will meet the winner of the Mary Hardin-Baylor/Hardin-Simmons game on Saturday, November 25.

***Errata--The Presidents received a Pool B bid.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 12, 2006, 04:30:13 PM
Football To Host Washington & Jefferson In First Round Of NCAA Playoffs

NEWPORT NEWS, VA - Christopher Newport's football team, coming off a 55-7 win over Ferrum to clinch the USA South's automatic bid into the NCAA Playoffs, will host Washington & Jefferson this Saturday at POMOCO Stadium at 12 pm.

The Presidents went 9-1 in the regular season and 6-0 in the Presidents' Athletic Conference and received a Pool B bid into the NCAA Tournament. This will be the third time these two teams have met, with all three meetings coming in the NCAA Tournament.

Washington & Jefferson won both meetings at home and this will be the first time the Presidents and the Captains will meet in Newport News. Washington & Jefferson defeated CNU in the Captains second season back on November 23, 2002, 24-10. The second meeting came two years later when the Presidents were again victorious, this time by a score of 24-14.

The Captains are a perfect 5-0 at home this and are 24-7 all-time at POMOCO Stadium. CNU finished the regular season with an 8-2 overall record and 6-1 in the USA South. The winner of the CNU/Washington & Jefferson match-up will meet the winner of the Mary Hardin-Baylor/Hardin-Simmons game on Saturday, November 25.

It appears they caught the mistake Ralph!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 12, 2006, 04:50:17 PM
I am not claiming infallibility, but I prefer to believe that the SID knows and trusts the information on these sites as something to double-check when a possible error has been cited. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 12, 2006, 04:54:49 PM
Congrats to the Captains for getting a playoff game at POMOCO!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 12, 2006, 05:01:46 PM
You never know Ralph!! They may have been writing it in haste or forgot, as I did, the PAC does not have an automatic bid!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 12, 2006, 06:08:13 PM
plus the CNU website is always written in haste...always errors...such as the article about CNU winning yesterday.....they get the playoff bid "do to" beating AU in the head to head.....I don't think the CNU writer is an English major...  ;) :D ;D :o :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 12, 2006, 06:44:26 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 12, 2006, 04:50:17 PM
I am not claiming infallibility, but I prefer to believe that the SID knows and trusts the information on these sites as something to double-check when a possible error has been cited. :)

My first thought is to give hard-working SID's credit.

Now as for the ability of the NCAA to execute a playoff according to the Handbook... :-\ ??? ::) :-X >:(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 12, 2006, 06:51:58 PM
Any fellow season ticket holders know how CNU is going to handle tickets for this weekend? I have already called and left a message for the ticket office. Should I assume that we will get first right or refusal for our seats??? Any input would be appreciated.

Has anyone been over to the new alumni house? I tailgated there yesterday and it was a blast  ;D. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 12, 2006, 06:59:49 PM
I forgot to mention that I am as surprised as anyone that we are hosting a playoff game. I fully expected a trip to TX. But I'll take it.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 12, 2006, 07:37:02 PM
captains...take care of business AT HOME this weekend - that's outstanding stuff! i think the capts have a very legit shot at getting throught to texas

prideguy - i understand that you said WISHES - i WISH i would win the lottery, but i don't post about it because i know it's not a reality (and i'm not a member of a lottery message board, either), just as the usasac sending 2 teams to the ncaa football tourney this year was not a reality
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 12, 2006, 07:53:36 PM
Hey Scots71,

I was there but was sitting right behind the team in that area. Didn't hear anything out of the way. If you can send me a regular email (see profile) and let me know where the rudeness was coming from, I can pass this on to the right folks that may or may not be able to address in the future.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 12, 2006, 10:16:10 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 12, 2006, 07:53:36 PM
Hey Scots71,

I was there but was sitting right behind the team in that area. Didn't hear anything out of the way. If you can send me a regular email (see profile) and let me know where the rudeness was coming from, I can pass this on to the right folks that may or may not be able to address in the future.

i've seen this in the past, as well, from averett - this year was not so bad...the thing that stood out to me was how football ignorant (yet vocal) some of the au fans were and how they constantly yelled "home cooking" as though officials really care about the outcome of the game...but 2 years ago there was a group of students who pretty consistently berated the monarch sideline with inappropriate and sometimes very personal attacks...if i remember correctly, the mu ad went and stood with a security guard on the track between the fans and players - i think he had to do something similar against gc toward the end of the game this year...these are examples of why mu needs to erect visiting bleachers on the other side of the field, more than an attack on the fans from these schools, though
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 12, 2006, 10:20:24 PM
I think season ticket holders get first dibs on their seats for playoff games, tcheadhunter. Kudos to you for leaving a message, hopefully that is the way its handled.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 13, 2006, 09:00:43 AM
I hope this isn't considered two or three days too late, but this is the first real chance I've had to say congratulations to CNU on your trip to the playoffs! I'm certain that the team will represent the conference very well. And the opening playoff game is without a doubt a winnable one -- especially at Pomoco!

Also, it's worth giving praise to Averett on its share of the conference crown. I've been pushing Averett all year (no secret there), and I'm happy that the season was a good one for the team. Though there's no postseason for the AU players and coaches to look forward to, this is definitely a season they can be proud of.

NC Wesleyan and Maryville put their marks on the map. There's some young players there, and it wouldn't surprise me to see them both in the Top 3 spots of the USA South next year. I still can't believe that the Bishops lost their four games by a total of 10 points. I look forward to seeing how the potential pans out for the Scots and Bishops.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 13, 2006, 12:14:57 PM
CNU season ticket holders will have until Wednesday to claim their tickets for this weekend. You will need to call the ticket office and provide a credit card. Starting Thursday all tickets are up for grabs. Cost is $13 for chair backs and $10 for bleachers.

It also sounds like the Alumni Society will be hosting another tailgating function at the new Alumni House. The house is located directly behind the endzone. See you there!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2006, 01:08:27 PM
just got my tickets!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 13, 2006, 01:46:22 PM
Must be lunch  time, CNU85 is on the prowl!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2006, 01:55:13 PM
yeah, baby!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 13, 2006, 02:11:40 PM
quickly...my 1st team all-conference offensive skill position players

qb - townsend - ncwc
rb - hilliard - cnu
rb - bush - ncwc
wr - hughley - au - OPOTY
wr - doleman - mu
util - lowe - gc

i'll have my second team and defensive guys later

thoughts?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 13, 2006, 02:16:00 PM
Congrats to CNU take care of W&J. I know you havent had much success in the playoffs in past history, but its time boys. Show the rest of d3 what we are about in this conference and win some big ones. Boys, just a little insight. If you get through the first one, the second round could be the same team you have beaten already this year. Do your thing fellas.

And the story continues for this conference. Will we ever have a single conference champ. Good job AU, you deserve it. Hughley, props to you man, you are a fantastic athlete and they are lucky to haver had a player with your heart and dedication.

Looking to next year, Monarchs are young, but talented. Work hard in the offseason and get the job done first in the weight room.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2006, 02:32:18 PM
Quote from: narch on November 13, 2006, 02:11:40 PM
quickly...my 1st team all-conference offensive skill position players

qb - townsend - ncwc
rb - hilliard - cnu
rb - bush - ncwc
wr - hughley - au - OPOTY
wr - doleman - mu
util - lowe - gc

i'll have my second team and defensive guys later

thoughts?


What is your criteria/thought process on util?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 13, 2006, 02:38:57 PM
Narch, i agree with your predictions i was goin to go through all the stats and post my own choices but you did it for me. I also like hughley for OPOTY. He deserves it.

Defensive lineman All-conference

DE- Colby townsend-MC

DE- Deshaun Parker- CNU

DT- John Northern- MU

DT- Travis Kivett- NCWC

Now as far as linebackers go, im not goin to suggest who i want there because i know it will bring some attention to it and people would say that i only done it because i went to methodist but i will make a mock one just to see what people  think.

LB- BLake Farrell
LB- Daryl Lawerence
LB- Chris Gauntlett

Those three are my predictions of who should get all-conference on the defensive side of the ball. But i dont pick em, the coaches do. so we will see.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2006, 02:45:17 PM
Hughley or Hilliard....OPOTY...toss a coin

DE...Nathan Williams gets a vote from me....although only a SO....he was constantly disrupting the Offense. A biased pick, admittedly.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 13, 2006, 03:14:27 PM
narch, that's a fine list of offensive players you put together. I think it's spot on.

Since I'm pressed for time, I'm just going to give my thoughts on the big ones:

I have a poll on the pick-ems board right now for Coach of the Year. My vote went to Tony Ierulli from Maryville. I know this award is often given to the coach of the conference champ, but I think Ierulli is the best candidate because he crafted a very good season from a team that looked like it had very little to work with. Plus, he's put the Maryville squad on the map and made them contenders in the conference this year. I expect that to continue next year, as well.

Offensive Player of the Year should go to Hughley. On paper, I knew he was a good player, but it wasn't until I saw him play in person that I knew he was a rare football player. He certainly contributed to Averett's strong season.

Defense Player of the Year belongs to Rodriguez from CNU. But I will say that part of me wants him to have it because of the huge impact he's had overall on his career at CNU. He's a stud athlete, and the couple times I've seen him play, he's made a difference in the Captains' pass defense.

I also want to add another category to the mix of this discussion, since this was one that was used in the pre-season Kickoff: Breakout Player of the Year. I had pegged Maryville wide receiver Cedric McDonald as the conference breakout. I can't say for sure if he was the creme of the crop of those who burst onto the scene, but I was happy that the sophomore is ninth in the conference in receiving yards per game. He averaged 21 yards per catch and co-led the team in receiving touchdowns. This kid has a nice future with the Scots.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 13, 2006, 05:12:29 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 13, 2006, 02:32:18 PMWhat is your criteria/thought process on util?

i wanted a monarch to get a 1st team vote, so i created a fictional position allowing doleman to be voted as a 1st team wr and lowe as a 1st team util :)

seriously, though, here is my thinking - lowe's receiving numbers were not impressive enough to warrant a spot on the first team, nor were his rushing numbers....but he's clearly one of the top 4 or 5 offensive players in the league - he lines up everywhere for the pride and creates havoc for defenses, but is he a wr who runs, or a rb who splits out or a qb that does both? - well, he's all of those things, hence the util designation
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 13, 2006, 05:18:18 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on November 13, 2006, 03:14:27 PMI have a poll on the pick-ems board right now for Coach of the Year. My vote went to Tony Ierulli from Maryville. I know this award is often given to the coach of the conference champ, but I think Ierulli is the best candidate because he crafted a very good season from a team that looked like it had very little to work with.

i disagree...weren't the m'ville fans touting 22 returning starters from a competetive team in the off-season?  that's a lot of returning talent - coty is ginn from ncwc in my book...he's taken that program from start-up to legit contender in 4 years - amazing

Quote from: WCLegacy on November 13, 2006, 03:14:27 PMI also want to add another category to the mix of this discussion, since this was one that was used in the pre-season Kickoff: Breakout Player of the Year.

while he's not a breakout player, per se, since he was in high school last year, clearly bush from ncwc was the biggest surprise to me - he averaged over 9 ypc in conference games...9 ypc...that's almost a first down every time he touched the ball...sure helps an offense stay on schedule when they're facing a lot of 2nd and 1's
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2006, 08:38:09 PM
Quote from: narch on November 13, 2006, 05:12:29 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 13, 2006, 02:32:18 PMWhat is your criteria/thought process on util?

i wanted a monarch to get a 1st team vote, so i created a fictional position allowing doleman to be voted as a 1st team wr and lowe as a 1st team util :)

seriously, though, here is my thinking - lowe's receiving numbers were not impressive enough to warrant a spot on the first team, nor were his rushing numbers....but he's clearly one of the top 4 or 5 offensive players in the league - he lines up everywhere for the pride and creates havoc for defenses, but is he a wr who runs, or a rb who splits out or a qb that does both? - well, he's all of those things, hence the util designation

based on that def...you gotta vote George Jones...WR, took many snaps in the shotgun at QB.....3 very long runs 30+ yds for TD's from the QB spot.....in motion with quick handoffs......he might even have 1 or 2 TD passes...gotta go look at the stats......gotta be the util of the year! Hands Down.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 13, 2006, 08:46:10 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 13, 2006, 08:38:09 PMbased on that def...you gotta vote George Jones...WR, took many snaps in the shotgun at QB.....3 very long runs 30+ yds for TD's from the QB spot.....in motion with quick handoffs......he might even have 1 or 2 TD passes...gotta go look at the stats......gotta be the util of the year! Hands Down.

you know, i didn't think to look at jones' numbers...i'll have to do that - honestly, and this isn't fair, i've felt like jones was a disappointment the last few years because he was SO GOOD as a frosh...he clearly was not the player i thought he was seeing him play in person as a soph and jr (although he's damn good, don't get me wrong) - i did see he had a monster game this past weekend...i'll reconsider him and compare his numbers to those of lowe...unfortunately, the usasac hasn't loaded week 10 stats into the system yet

ok...just looked at overall numbers, and these 2 are close

jones - 318 rush yds (10.3 ypc), 5 td & 476 rec yds, 3 td
lowe - 304 rush yds (4.5 ypc), 1 td & 546 rec yds, 2 td

i want to see how the 2 compare in conference games before i make a final decision

i'm still leaning toward lowe for one big reason...he led gc in both rushing and receiving...he HAD to be a do everything guy for gc...jones filled a more complimentary role - jones is CLEARLY more explosive, though, and the td discrepancy is pretty big
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 13, 2006, 10:21:31 PM
Don't have much time to look dddddddeeeeeeeeeppppppppp into the stats like you guys.  ;D  DPOY Justin Long or Rob Rod hands down I don't think any other player on any other team has made more plays.

As far as OPOY I did hear Hughley was a man child so from the talk I guess you can go with him. Hillard better be a close second.

Break out player of the year. Don't forget about Todd Fasion.  I saw the kid his frosh year and he really had trouble getting the snap from center none the less beating top 5 competition in week 2.  He also had a very very young offensive line while playing a very top heavy schedule and a very competitive league schedule.

As far as George Jones goes the Kid is still a beast.  Unknown to most the kid battled a lot of injuries throughout his CNU career. So you should NEVER USE THE WORDS DISSAPOINTING AND HIS NAME IN THE SAME SENTENCE. Because he still buried Averett in the title game with a TD burst in the second half that was ultimately the game winner. The kid made a lot of big plays against UMHB in that win.  And check the stats he probably has the most (30-40 plus yard plays on his team). Not to mention he is a big time deep threat, one of the most versatile players in the conference, and most importantly he is a very good student. 

Already told the boss Saturday I was going to be sick so I was not coming to work. ;D ;D  I missed the last 2 games 85 but I ain't missing this one. 

Who knows I might strap it up against the Presidents.  I still owe them for ending my seasons twice.   :: :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 14, 2006, 12:04:24 AM
Quote from: narch on November 13, 2006, 05:18:18 PM
i disagree...weren't the m'ville fans touting 22 returning starters from a competetive team in the off-season?  that's a lot of returning talent - coty is ginn from ncwc in my book...he's taken that program from start-up to legit contender in 4 years - amazing

You actually heard hype from Maryville fans? And I missed it?! Sigh... :'(  ;)

Actually, you bring up a good point here. I look at the expected caliber of that returning team. As a whole (and I might be misreading this), I don't think a lot of people had them pegged as a breakout team. And quite frankly, I'm not 100 percent sure they were a big breakout success. Yeah, they had 22 starters coming back, but those starters went 3-7 last year. I thought I was maybe giving them a little too much credit when I picked them to go 5-5 overall and 3-4 in-conference this year. Turns out, they pretty much fit that bill. I like the direction Maryville is going as a team...a team that doesn't rely on lots of standout players (one...maybe two). I think that Ierulli has taken a lot of average or slightly above average players and made them into a solid club.

All that said, Ginn is defintely my No. 2 choice for COTY. Can't really go wrong with that pick.

Quote from: narch on November 13, 2006, 05:18:18 PM
while he's not a breakout player, per se, since he was in high school last year, clearly bush from ncwc was the biggest surprise to me ...

Worth creating another topic of discussion: Rookie of the Year? As you said, Bush really isn't a breakout, but he's definitely up there in the talk of the conference's best rookie.

cnusfinest: Faison is good to work into any talk about Breakout of the Year players. He's a candidate.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2006, 09:09:27 AM
NArch,

Don't forget Jones' passing stats!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 14, 2006, 09:16:23 AM
I think we should create our own post season poster awards  ;D
We could have -best poster -most obnoxious poster -poster least likely to be an english major ...  Any suggestions  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2006, 09:43:56 AM
most retarded poster
"most times you have to re-read a post to figure out what they heck they are talking about" poster
dumbest name poster
most analytical poster
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 14, 2006, 09:46:44 AM
DUMBEST NAME DUMBEST NAME!!

I know you are refering to me!! A$$!!

Look forward to seein you Saturday, CNU85!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 14, 2006, 10:05:32 AM
Papi

"poster least likely to be an english major" ............that's my award damn it. Even without head injuries
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on November 14, 2006, 10:08:04 AM
Funniest Poster?  (I mean funny ha!ha! . . . . iykwim)  :D

Most Disturbed Poster  :-X

Ugliest Poster  :o

Most Egotistical Poster (look it up . . .)  8)

Poster With No Life (or Most Prolific Poster)  ???

Sexiest Poster (onlinemom gets my vote-sorry, narch)  :-*

Most Powerful Poster (I pass on this one, Pat)  ::)

Any other suggestions?  :-\

Remember:
Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 14, 2006, 10:41:29 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on November 14, 2006, 10:08:04 AM

Sexiest Poster (onlinemom gets my vote-sorry, narch)  :-*




You've obviously never seen Narch in his faux leather chaps  :o


How about the great "Magician Poster" --Awarded to the poster who did the best disappearing act after their team took a loss!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2006, 10:48:12 AM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 14, 2006, 09:46:44 AM
DUMBEST NAME DUMBEST NAME!!

I know you are refering to me!! A$$!!

Look forward to seein you Saturday, CNU85!!

Most sensitive poster!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2006, 10:49:30 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on November 14, 2006, 10:41:29 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on November 14, 2006, 10:08:04 AM

Sexiest Poster (onlinemom gets my vote-sorry, narch)  :-*




You've obviously never seen Narch in his faux leather chaps  :o


How about the great "Magician Poster" --Awarded to the poster who did the best disappearing act after their team took a loss!!

faux??? I thought they were real leather.....just ruined my fantasy!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2006, 11:10:10 AM
Hoochie Koochie Koo is gonna win at least 3 awards!! Not fair!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 14, 2006, 11:50:27 AM
so here are my picks for first team all-conference besides the O-Line. You have to watch the oline to know who is good, and obviously you cant be at every game. So ill let the coaches handle that.

First Team All-conference

RB- Roland Hilliard
      Teron Bush

FB- Jeremy Robertson- This is a hard pick to find, but this guy obviously should win, 21 att. for 102 yds. 2 TD and no loss on the season rushing.

WR- Hughley
                  Doleman

TE- Chris silk

Second Team

RB- Kyle Wilson
      Mike Hill

FB- Rob Herbin

QB- Justin Price

WR- Shel Leverette
       Chuck Howard

TE- Andrew Gurley

Defensive all conference coming soon.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCol51 on November 14, 2006, 11:51:34 AM
Ok so def dont know what happened to my first team, lol. My computer is being retarded.

Here is my QB
Cedri Townsend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2006, 02:06:46 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 14, 2006, 09:09:27 AM
NArch,

Don't forget Jones' passing stats!

they're about the same as lowe's passing stats (except lowe has 2 fewer int's :)

i'm changing my vote for 1st team util when viewing stats for the only games that really matter...conference games

jones - 27 att, 325 rushing yds (12 ypc), 5 td - 16 rec, 273 rec yds (17 ypr), 2 td's
lowe - 48 att, 187 rushing yds (3.9 ypc), 0 td - 34 rec, 339 rec yds (10 ypr), 2 td's

the stats clearly show that jones is a superior talent and a much more explosive athlete than lowe - they also show that the cnu coaching staff knew how to use jones very effectively

finest - maybe i was a little harsh in my earlier analysis of jones, but i'm basing this mostly on seeing him play (mostly ineffectively) as a soph and junior against mu...i also think he's a victim of my high expectations...he was SO GOOD as a freshman (especially against the monarchs), that i expected him to dominate and anticipated he would be a serious contender for opoty as a senior
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2006, 02:30:52 PM
ok - now that the usasac has updated stats available, here are my FINAL offensive skill position all-conference players

qb - townsend - ncwc - among qb's who threw more than 30 passes in conference games he was #1 in efficiency, #1 in yards, #1 in total offense, #2 in td's and #2 in ints

rb - hilliard - cnu - #1 in yards, yards/game, td's in overall and conference only stats
rb - bush - ncwc - conference only ranks # 2 in yardage stats, 6 tds and 8.9 ypc average

however...mike hill from mu could sneek in and grab this award because his overall stats are superior to those of bush...conference voters don't pay as much attention to conference only stats as i do, and hill ranks ahead of bush in all cats except ypc in overall stats

wr - hughley - i've covered why i think it's him for 1st team
wr - mish - i voted for doleman earlier, but after absorbing the stats, mish has better numbers for a more prolific offense that spreads the ball more

the #2 wr spot should be hotly contested with doleman, leverette, lowe and webb all vying with mish for that spot

te - silk...no other option here - the kid is a beast at te...crushing blocker, great receiver

util - jones - cnu - covered

opoty - hughley - au - simply the best offensive player on one of the best offensive teams in the conference

i'll also cover specials here -
kr - sands - mu - 27.6 ypr
pr - locke - m'ville - 12.9 ypr, 1 td
k - larkin - mu - best fg % (11-16 overall, 9-10 from inside 40), most touchbacks, best ko coverage in league
p - dooley - su - only kicker to average over 40 ypk - led league in kicks inside 20

my defensive picks will come on wednesday
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2006, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 14, 2006, 10:49:30 AMfaux??? I thought they were real leather.....just ruined my fantasy!!

'85 - first it's fantasy football (which i understand totally), now i'm part of your fantasy...you've obviously never seen me in those chaps :)

narch = fantasy...does not compute
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2006, 02:52:49 PM
here are my poster award votes

Funniest Poster?  (I mean funny ha!ha! . . . . iykwim)  :D
i'm not sure what iykwim means, but i think papi, abnrgr and '85 are pretty funny...they get my vote

Most Disturbed Poster  :-X
i'm going to say eh-you for his insistance on wanting bad karma

Ugliest Poster  :o
uhh...haven't seen any pictures of most, and i'm not sure i want to

Most Egotistical Poster (look it up . . .)  8)
clearly that's me

Poster With No Life (or Most Prolific Poster)  ???
early in the season, before all the losses, this would clearly have been prideguy's award...of course, this is my 3rd or 4th post in the last hour...

Sexiest Poster (onlinemom gets my vote-sorry, narch)  :-*
i don't know...papi's got a hot girlfriend...he's got to be pretty sexy on some level to score her (or he's a world-class overacheiver, like myself)

Most Powerful Poster (I pass on this one, Pat)  ::)
ralph turner...when he speaks, people listen...

most retarded poster
that's just not nice, '85

"most times you have to re-read a post to figure out what they heck they are talking about" poster
again, not nice...but it's clearly prideguy - congrats, you got an award!

dumbest name poster
the one who is named after a mongoose in a children's book :)

most analytical poster
eh-you gets my vote

How about the great "Magician Poster" --Awarded to the poster who did the best disappearing act after their team took a loss!!
gcgullett...'nuff said

poster least likely to be an english major
so many choices....

and here are some of my own categories:

poster you'd least like to tick off
abnrgr

poster you'd most like to have a cold one with
papi, '85, abnrgr ('cause i don't want to tick him off)

poster most likely to cut you down with big words and in such a positive manner that you really don't even realize he's cutting you into little pieces
hasanova

poster wearing school-colored glasses
any gc or b'water fan

breakout poster
wclegacy...a great addition to these boards, with d3newbie coming in a close second

best former player poster
rocket...he's not as prolific or talented from a posting standpoint as some of the others, but he was clearly the best player :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 14, 2006, 03:13:49 PM
Narch, I was expecting statistics from you for each of the poster catagories  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2006, 03:31:40 PM
Nice job Narch!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on November 14, 2006, 05:35:35 PM
SU and Methodist Pictures are now posted.  This of course is the last for this year.  Record aside SU has some talent and the upcoming season will have a much better showing.  A lot of younger players got experience this year.  No predictions of grandeur just a better showing next year.  http://www.fivemics.net/Shenandoah-2006.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 14, 2006, 06:02:08 PM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2006, 02:52:49 PM

Most Powerful Poster (I pass on this one, Pat)  ::)
ralph turner...when he speaks, people listen...


Thanks narch, but please remember "Corrections are always appreciated!" ;)

Seriously, we have some really great fans here in the South Region.

There are lots of posters who put up good facts, timely hyperlinks and fun stuff to read!

Have a good off-season, and see you on the Hoops board this winter and baseball in the spring!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 14, 2006, 08:12:02 PM
Narch,

Do you remember when you were five?  I feel like the fat kid staring at the ground after the last round of picks for dodgeball!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2006, 10:12:27 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 14, 2006, 08:12:02 PM
Narch,

Do you remember when you were five?  I feel like the fat kid staring at the ground after the last round of picks for dodgeball!

i don't get it...my mosh translation is a little rusty - is it 'cause i didn't mention you in the poster awards? if so, here's an award for you:

poster who has matured the most from his first trash talking post
moshergc9 :)

good to see you back
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 14, 2006, 10:54:59 PM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2006, 02:52:49 PM
here are my poster award votes

poster most likely to cut you down with big words and in such a positive manner that you really don't even realize he's cutting you into little pieces
hasanova


Thank you.  Thanks so much.  First, I'd like to thank my writers who put in such endless hours of research and all the little people, you know who you are.  You're the greatest.  And ....

narch - Perhaps you are confusing me with my doppelganger (humming Jeopardy theme while some readers look it up) who taught me "the pen is (indeed) mightier than the sword."  Which is, ironically, diametrically opposed to the other great mantra I recant daily:  "sticks and stones may break my bones, but ..."   You know how it goes.  lol  "A mind is a terrible thing to waste"  ... or was that "a waist is a terrible thing to mind?"  I forget.  Hold that thought will I get a Diet Coke ... :)  All kidding aside, I like chatting with all of you and hope you don't take me too seriously.  I have a very dry sense of humor, so I hope you've come to appreciate it in the genuine spirit of camaraderie and goodwill it's intended.    Peace

There once were some posters in chorus,
But Quaker's the one who can floor us.
He said, "I'm no rapper.
When I need a zapper,
I whip out a well-worn Thesaurus!"   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2006, 11:23:06 AM
Hasanova.....

or as I like to say...

"The mind is a terrible thing"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 15, 2006, 12:01:49 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 15, 2006, 11:23:06 AM
Hasanova.....

or as I like to say...

"The mind is a terrible thing"
To quote Igor in another great movie, Young Frankenstein, when asked which brain he brought back, "Master, it said A. B., A. B. Normal!"  (Do not take this brain!)  In my case, this is doubly true!  lol  As they say in parts of NC, "he's about 2 sandwiches short of a picnic!"  or, simply, "he ain't right!"  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 16, 2006, 08:41:19 AM
Just a reminder to those who want to continue with the pick-em contest into the playoffs, the spreads are ready and waiting.  :)  People who didn't participate in the regular season are welcome to join up now to. The board can be found at:

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4785.330

You must be logged in to be able to get to it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 16, 2006, 08:55:01 AM
      This is the first year I have posted on post patterns. (ODAC & USA South) It has been fun sticking in my two cents worth here and there. Guess I'll have to work a little harder next year so I can earn an award.  :'(
     I'll continue to pop in and out during the playoffs with some sort of profound post.  ;D Then it's off to basketball!!

GO SCOTS...TIGERS...PANTHERS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 16, 2006, 08:58:40 AM
     Almost forgot.....GO GENERALS...GO CAPTAINS!!!  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 16, 2006, 01:05:04 PM
Hey 85,

I sent you a private message. ;)

Headed your way on Saturday!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 16, 2006, 01:44:28 PM
Got it...check reply....got an idea (first one this year!)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 16, 2006, 01:53:28 PM
85...that puts you one idea ahead of me for the year!!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 16, 2006, 04:01:19 PM
All-Conference team announced.....13 from CNU!!! Kelchner is Coach of Year!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 16, 2006, 09:46:57 PM
jones - 27 att, 325 rushing yds (12 ypc), 5 td - 16 rec, 273 rec yds (17 ypr), 2 td'

finest - maybe i was a little harsh in my earlier analysis of jones, but i'm basing this mostly on seeing him play (mostly ineffectively) as a soph and junior against mu...i also think he's a victim of my high expectations...he was SO GOOD as a freshman (especially against the monarchs), that i expected him to dominate and anticipated he would be a serious contender for opoty as a senior

I don't think you were harsh Narch, I just don't think you looked at George's overall impact on CNU football. If you look at CNU's offensive production the years before Jones and the years with Jones you will notice his hidden impact.  I remember the days of scoring 17 points or so a game without a impact player who could go the distance after Conway got kicked off.  Whether it was being a tailback,wr, or taking snaps at Qb Jones caused a lot of problems for defenses/coaches because you never knew where he was going to score from. His presence opened up a lot of things for players like Nate Davis, Roland Hilliard, and the "greatest route runner in CNU history Curfew Speight and vise versa".  Maybe he didn't earn OPOY honors but I would certainly take him #1 overall in a USA South draft.  I wouldn't be the best at doing it but take a look at his production per opportunity.

GO CAPTAINS BEAT DOWN THE PRESIDENTS.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2006, 11:40:15 AM
Finest...as you know a lot of the opportunities this year came on critical third and fourth downs and he consistently produced.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 17, 2006, 11:56:25 AM
Well folks, I want to take an opportunity (belatedly) to say congratulations to CNU on their conference championship.

I was at the CNU/FC game last week, and would have written sooner, but have been at the doctors alot getting my hearing checked....the ship's horn deafened me! :) I was impressed at the number of Ferrum fans that came to the game. (considering it was a rough year)

Maybe next year Panthers. I have enjoyed posting again this season, and will follow the Captains through the playoffs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2006, 12:03:36 PM
Thanks Allen!

That game made me nervous before it started (didn't last long  ;D). I was worried that the FC team that was picked to win the conference would show up!! I was thinking a little revenge would be in order.

See ya next year!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2006, 10:59:01 PM
CNU's in the house!!!!!

BAD NEWS!!!!

CNU'S IN THE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!

BAD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love it!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 17, 2006, 11:09:52 PM
85 will be insufferable by 1700 EST ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 18, 2006, 01:01:00 AM
Come on Captains its PLAYOFF TIME.  Lets show the Presidents what POMOCO IS ALL ABOUT. 



BEAT THE PRESIDENTS
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on November 18, 2006, 01:33:02 AM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2006, 02:52:49 PM
here are my poster award votes

Funniest Poster?  (I mean funny ha!ha! . . . . iykwim)  :D
i'm not sure what iykwim means, but i think papi, abnrgr and '85 are pretty funny...they get my vote

Most Disturbed Poster  :-X
i'm going to say eh-you for his insistance on wanting bad karma

Ugliest Poster  :o
uhh...haven't seen any pictures of most, and i'm not sure i want to

Most Egotistical Poster (look it up . . .)  8)
clearly that's me

Poster With No Life (or Most Prolific Poster)  ???
early in the season, before all the losses, this would clearly have been prideguy's award...of course, this is my 3rd or 4th post in the last hour...

Sexiest Poster (onlinemom gets my vote-sorry, narch)  :-*
i don't know...papi's got a hot girlfriend...he's got to be pretty sexy on some level to score her (or he's a world-class overacheiver, like myself)

Most Powerful Poster (I pass on this one, Pat)  ::)
ralph turner...when he speaks, people listen...

most retarded poster
that's just not nice, '85

"most times you have to re-read a post to figure out what they heck they are talking about" poster
again, not nice...but it's clearly prideguy - congrats, you got an award!

dumbest name poster
the one who is named after a mongoose in a children's book :)

most analytical poster
eh-you gets my vote

How about the great "Magician Poster" --Awarded to the poster who did the best disappearing act after their team took a loss!!
gcgullett...'nuff said

poster least likely to be an english major
so many choices....

and here are some of my own categories:

poster you'd least like to tick off
abnrgr

poster you'd most like to have a cold one with
papi, '85, abnrgr ('cause i don't want to tick him off)

poster most likely to cut you down with big words and in such a positive manner that you really don't even realize he's cutting you into little pieces
hasanova

poster wearing school-colored glasses
any gc or b'water fan

breakout poster
wclegacy...a great addition to these boards, with d3newbie coming in a close second

best former player poster
rocket...he's not as prolific or talented from a posting standpoint as some of the others, but he was clearly the best player :)

You forgot best limerick poet:  Hasanova!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D  Just my 2 brownies worth
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on November 18, 2006, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on November 16, 2006, 08:55:01 AM
      This is the first year I have posted on post patterns. (ODAC & USA South) It has been fun sticking in my two cents worth here and there. Guess I'll have to work a little harder next year so I can earn an award.  :'(
     I'll continue to pop in and out during the playoffs with some sort of profound post.  ;D Then it's off to basketball!!

GO SCOTS...TIGERS...PANTHERS!!!

You are coming to the Stagg Bowl in between basketball games, aren't you?  You can't miss the big, BIG tailgate!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 18, 2006, 02:10:42 AM
So narch you find me funny....funny how....you mean like a clown......you mean how..... hah hah ..... you  F&&^%$  (*&^ So you find me funny.  ;)

I love that Joe Pesci soliquy (sP)

Narch you are the most analytical...not state department material that's for sure. ;)

And DR. Olinemom is a seething and boiling eathquake that could go nuc with second and third order of effects. I can almost feel the snotty little FR saying something disrespectful and he being dusted, Just a feeling.  ;)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on November 18, 2006, 02:32:54 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 18, 2006, 02:10:42 AM
So narch you find me funny....funny how....you mean like a clown......you mean how..... hah hah ..... you  F&&^%$  (*&^ So you find me funny.  ;)

I love that Joe Pesci soliquy (sP)

Narch you are the most analytical...not state department material that's for sure. ;)

And DR. Olinemom is a seething and boiling eathquake that could go nuc with second and third order of effects. I can almost feel the snotty little FR saying something disrespectful and he being dusted, Just a feeling.  ;)

Who, me?  The only things that get put in the nuke machine (better known at the microwave) in my office are the students' tests if they are taking them at a different time than the rest of the class in order that they don't get lost on my desk.  In 23 years at BC and 3 at HPU I haven't gone nuclear yet (though I can pronounce it which W cannot).  Even after the Gilford loss and the E&H loss I was there to give hugs as my players came off the field.  I am always there in the good times.  I felt it imperative to be there when it wasn't such a good time as well.  I was there for my guys when Trinity came up and beat us in the snow.  One of the WR got emotional but he got to hide his face in a big hug.  That's what moms are for!  The BC nation is having football withdrawal at the moment, but you know I sat through many years when we didn't win any games.  I can remember when we were the laughing stock of d3football.  I must say I can appreciate it much better now that we have a winning tradition and kids, coaches, staff, students, faculty and administration that want to win and work hard to do so.  But, in finishing,  my QB took us to the Stagg Bowl even if I didn't get to go, having gotten out of the hospital from major surgery the day before.  I can assure you that I will be there to cheer this year and to help Stone Station host the fan base of both teams that make it to the finals.  Brownies for both teams, and for the tailgate to beat all tailgates.  You should dogsled in for the occasion.  How long could it take to get here from there?  Go Gennies!!  Go Captains.  Represent VA well tomorrow!  Oh, withdrawal is painful, it really is. :( :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2006, 08:59:27 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 17, 2006, 11:09:52 PM
85 will be insufferable by 1700 EST ;)

1700? hmmm...drop the zeroes....17, subtract 12...17-12=5, because it was a higher number than 1200 add PM.....5pm...

cool!!

We'll see how it goes. Cnu hoops team lost last night......at home.....that puts them 104-15 snce 1999 and 89-15 in the new building....

things will be better at POMOCO today!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2006, 09:01:15 AM
dang it dang it dang it....

O-line mom - I bet you didn't send brownies down with Stone Station?????

I should've thought of it sooner!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on November 18, 2006, 01:57:07 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 18, 2006, 09:01:15 AM
dang it dang it dang it....

O-line mom - I bet you didn't send brownies down with Stone Station?????

I should've thought of it sooner!
Yes, because I could have done so.  Sorry.  I'm sending e-brownies.  They are good--no calories, come in any flavor you like and never get stale ;D ;D ;D,  Hope you are winning.  What is the score??????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2006, 03:28:25 PM
good e-brownies!!!

also good to have Stone Station setup on CNU. I love the tradition right before kickoff!!!

Thanks Llama, kid, and the rest who came down for the game! It made the loss easier to take.

now to the game.....

If only...
we shoulda
we coulda

dang it...we lost 27-23


Turnovers kill!!!

What a second half....down 27-0....cam back to 27-23 and fumbled away the free kick with 47 seconds left.....so close....and those are the hardest ones to forget!

Thanks to the seniors for 4 great years of football.....I like where the team will be next year......and that #21...Matt Long...he can HIT!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 18, 2006, 06:32:52 PM
85 and Finest I was pulling for "youse guys". Sorry. I will have prosac in the mail tonight :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on November 18, 2006, 09:25:27 PM

OK - The season is over for USASAC . . . . .   :(

Now what do we do?   ???

I've already listened to all the GC archived games, figured out who the seniors are and who should be back. Now what do I do? :'(  :'(

Wait a sec . . . . . who's that lady in my kitchen?  :o Oh, I remember her!! I used to date her! !   :-[ Wife? Oh, yeah - that's my wife! :-*

It's been a long time, but I think I remember what to do now . . . . .  :P

When does the 2007 FB season start up ?  :-\ Preseason ?  :-X

In the mean time - I'll think of something . . . . .  ::)



PREPARE, PRIDE, PREPARE ! ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2006, 10:34:52 PM
HOOPS Newbie....HOOPS!!!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2006, 10:35:55 PM
ABNRGR -

1700 sucked today!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 18, 2006, 11:38:35 PM
Just rolled in from another great day of D3football.... and a little D3Bball. :o

85,
Thanks much for the hospitality and great tailgating spot near the stadium. Glad you enjoyed the "pregame activities", multiply that times about 6 bottles at the Stagg! Come on up and join us. I think there are already fans from 6 schools coming and we are still counting.

It was nice putting faces with WCLegacy, CNULifer and Bro, Goose, and the group of fans in the far stands who told me "you gotta have balls to wear that Bridgewater gear in here", LOL. I offered them a beer and all was cool.

Great day, great game, and great facilities as usual. Another great example of all that is good in D3 athletics.

ps. Hooters was a good call. It was cheerleader day. :o :)  Oh the wings weren't bad either. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 19, 2006, 10:16:09 AM
congrats to cnu on a great season...sorry it ended the way it did, but you guys continue to be the class of the usasac - hopefully the monarchs can push for a title next year...there is a lot of talent coming back!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 19, 2006, 11:57:55 AM
Great season, Captains! Despite the tough loss, you did the USA South proud in the post-season.

Llama and Kid: Thanks for bringing Stone Station to Newport News. It was good to meet both of you guys!

My photos of the game are available for anyone who wants to check them out:

http://www.pictureprints.net/photographers.php?photographer=D3Sports
Title: Tentative 2007 Guilford schedule
Post by: hasanova on November 19, 2006, 08:05:52 PM
It's not official yet, but I've been told Guilford will open at Southern Virginia next year (instead of Ferrum) and will play Methodist in Fayetteville for the 2nd year in a row.  For several years now, the Quakers have been on an odd schedule of four home games one year and six the next.  This tentative schedule is an attempt to equalize the slate at five home and five away each season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 20, 2006, 08:06:41 PM
Sounds like it was one heck of a game!! It's a shame the Captains didn't come out on top.  Congrats on a great season, certainly nothing to hang your heads about!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on November 21, 2006, 08:57:05 AM
With 43% of the precincts reporting, the president cup is still too close to call. (Ok CNU has a large lead so it isn't so close, I just felt like saying that) Although I think the next two precincts WBB and MBB should seal it for them.

CNU                       41.0
Greensboro           29.5
Averett                  28.0
Methodist              26.5
NC Wesleyan        19.5
Ferrum                  16.0
Shenandoah         15.5
Peace                     6.0
Maryville                 5.0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 21, 2006, 04:55:58 PM
Congrats to Rob Rod. of CNU - Aztec Bowl...he gets to play one more game!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bill McCabe on November 21, 2006, 08:48:31 PM
CNU85,how many seniors do you lose?  What kind of team can we expect next year in Texas?  Sorry we won't get a rematch next year, but I will be there for the game in Belton.  Hope you can make it down.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 22, 2006, 01:27:17 AM
Well I can tell you the Capts lose a bunch. Rob Rodriguez, who was a DB and selected to play in the Aztec Bowl, Justin Long, a hard-hitting strong safety, but should be replaced by his brother, another hard-hitter. CNU also loses WR George Jones, an all-purpose threat and they also lose the program's all-time leading rusher in Roland Hilliard. Those four will be tough to replace. They also lose wideout Curfew Speight who had a helluva game against W&J, 2005 starting QB Hudson Bryant, who filled in admirably against the Presidents going 17-of-21 for 188 yards and led the Capts back into the game, and he did it in less that 2 quarters of play. They lose a roll player in Harvey Harper on defense, the anchor of the offensive line in center Matt Boykin and the other anchor of the o-line, Larry Broach. Many key players and some of whom their shoes will be tough to fill. Im sure the coaching staff has already been out recruiting during the season and im sure will continue to do so throughout the rest of the year. Should be interesting to see who comes in and who will help right away. What worries me is the rushing attack. Hard to replace a 3000 yard rusher.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 22, 2006, 11:59:54 AM
Bill,

Can't add more than what RTT mentioned below. Another thing that I keep int he back of my mind is that after last year I was worried since we lost 6 starters on each side of the ball, including 3 starting LBs - and their honors included all-conference, all-region, all-american, and an Aztec Bowl appearance. But our LB's this year played extremely well and I believe are all sophomores. Anyway, I'm confident the coaches have this all in mind and will have a team ready to play next year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 22, 2006, 01:48:05 PM
as we approach thanksgiving, i think it's appropriate to thank all of the usasac student-athletes who participated in the "cans across the conference" (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/SAACcans06.htm) event and congratulate cnu on a convincing "victory" - great job everyone
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 23, 2006, 02:53:51 AM
The USASAC as a whole seemed to be pretty young this year.  This could lead to some good seasons for the next couple of years.  I'm hoping to see a USASAC team go at least a couple games deep in the playoffs in the next year or two.
Everyone have a safe and good Turkey Day
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 24, 2006, 01:07:29 PM
Recuiting.......that is where it has to happen. Plus you need to sell your school. CNU is several heads above the other Virginia schools when it comes to selling it's facilities and success. These other coaches need to have some great sale pitches in order to overcome CNU's power.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on November 24, 2006, 07:52:13 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 18, 2006, 03:28:25 PM
good e-brownies!!!

also good to have Stone Station setup on CNU. I love the tradition right before kickoff!!!

Thanks Llama, kid, and the rest who came down for the game! It made the loss easier to take.

now to the game.....

If only...
we shoulda
we coulda

dang it...we lost 27-23


Turnovers kill!!!

What a second half....down 27-0....cam back to 27-23 and fumbled away the free kick with 47 seconds left.....so close....and those are the hardest ones to forget!

Thanks to the seniors for 4 great years of football.....I like where the team will be next year......and that #21...Matt Long...he can HIT!!!

I add my voice to Llama's in the hopes that you and the other posters will come on up to the Stagg Bowl and join us for a merry day at Stone Station now that you know what it's all about.  We are sure going to have a great time.  And I promise the brownies will be there and they will be excellent!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 25, 2006, 05:07:02 PM
Thanks O-linemom!!! I haven't figured it all out yet. My guess is that there's only a 30% chance of making it.

HEY - Will the certain former CNU player that stopped by Stone Station to partake, please drop me an email. We discussed starting a CNU version of Stone Station......let's make it happen!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on November 26, 2006, 04:30:56 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 25, 2006, 05:07:02 PM
Thanks O-linemom!!! I haven't figured it all out yet. My guess is that there's only a 30% chance of making it.

HEY - Will the certain former CNU player that stopped by Stone Station to partake, please drop me an email. We discussed starting a CNU version of Stone Station......let's make it happen!!
:'( :'( :(  Well, we'll just have to work on that 30% part then. ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 26, 2006, 07:19:37 PM
ok...it's up to 31% now!! :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 26, 2006, 09:38:56 PM
85-
For what it's worth, I'm definitely going to be there in Salem! I'm not sure if that would help push you to 32% or bumps you back down to 30.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 27, 2006, 01:21:07 PM
31.5%
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 29, 2006, 01:28:25 PM
found  a link to thison the ODAC board...here is a 2001 Victory chain showing CNU over Virginia Tech!

Christopher Newport beat
Greensboro who beat
Guilford who beat
Catholic who beat
Frostburg St who beat
Marist who beat
Georgetown DC who beat
Duquesne who beat
VMI who beat
Chattanooga who beat
Wofford who beat
East Tennessee St who beat
Georgia Southern who beat
Furman who beat
Western Kentucky who beat
McNeese State who beat
Northwestern St who beat
TCU who beat
Louisville who beat
Memphis who beat
South Florida who beat
Pittsburgh who beat
Virginia Tech
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: notamensa on November 29, 2006, 01:48:13 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 29, 2006, 01:28:25 PM
found  a link to thison the ODAC board...here is a 2001 Victory chain showing CNU over Virginia Tech!

Christopher Newport beat
Greensboro who beat
Guilford who beat
Catholic who beat
Frostburg St who beat
Marist who beat
Georgetown DC who beat
Duquesne who beat
VMI who beat
Chattanooga who beat
Wofford who beat
East Tennessee St who beat
Georgia Southern who beat
Furman who beat
Western Kentucky who beat
McNeese State who beat
Northwestern St who beat
TCU who beat
Louisville who beat
Memphis who beat
South Florida who beat
Pittsburgh who beat
Virginia Tech


someone has way too much time on his hands. this seems like something i would do. i like it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 29, 2006, 02:16:18 PM
some bytehead probably did it for a class project.....he gets an A!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 29, 2006, 05:23:54 PM
Wow...now that is impressive!!!   So can we expect to see Va Tech on the schedule next season 85?   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 29, 2006, 05:25:23 PM
No because Tech will only schedule high school teams. They have one of the weakest schedules in D1 football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 29, 2006, 05:27:26 PM
My apoligies, can you tell I am a UVA fan. Nothing to brag about there either. They need an offensive coord. Groh should take lessons from Bobby Bowden.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 30, 2006, 04:35:32 PM
We tried to get Va Tech on the schedule. They were SCARED!!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GCman82 on December 06, 2006, 01:09:47 AM
Im sure they were!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on December 08, 2006, 10:00:29 PM
Congrats to Rod Rod and Roland on First Team All-South honors. J Lo and Boykins were Second Team choices and Broach was a Third Team pick. Also, congrats to all over USA South players and South region members who were honored.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on December 09, 2006, 01:42:41 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 29, 2006, 05:27:26 PM
My apoligies, can you tell I am a UVA fan. Nothing to brag about there either. They need an offensive coord. Groh should take lessons from Bobby Bowden.

Anybody who chose Orange as the color for UVA has a big problem to begin with.  When he was there, it was Blue.  When I see all the Orange, I just shudder, it is so Clemson-like.  I was raised by a Paladin (read that Furman) so Clemson is not on my top million and the color orange is CLEMSON.  So as far as I am concerned, he has jinxed himself and his teams.  Of course I am the baseball mom at my school as well and we are very superstitious (and the Brownie mom for the UVA baseball team as well ;D ;D ;D)  I'd like to clone Chris Long.  Oh wait there are 2 more Longs in the pipeline, one of whom is a QB at STAB and Kyle who is built very much like his brother and to whom I owe brownies since last summer.  My bad!!  Al Groh is on my last nerve.  The lack of offense is a shame.  I want Gary Cuozzo back.  I want Frank,  I want Turnley Todd (Oh, showing my age there with these guys, but they are still my favorites along with Chris Long!!!!!   :o :o :o   Oh, by the way, did I tell you how I hate

  ORANGE!!!!! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on December 09, 2006, 08:54:59 AM
I hope I never have to stop Olinemom out on the water, with her hatred for orange she might try to take me and my boat out!  Just as long as she's brings brownies it'll be ok  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 10, 2006, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: Olinemom on December 09, 2006, 01:42:41 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 29, 2006, 05:27:26 PM
My apoligies, can you tell I am a UVA fan. Nothing to brag about there either. They need an offensive coord. Groh should take lessons from Bobby Bowden.

 Oh, by the way, did I tell you how I hate

  ORANGE!!!!! 

Mom, Darrell changed the University of Texas' orange color to Burnt Orange in the mid 1950's, supposedly to mask the football better,  the leather on the football being roughly the same shade.  When Tennessee came to the 1969 Cotton Bowl they had to buy new white "away" jerseys, because UTexas would not wear white.  I thought that Tennessee shade was more a kin to "yeller orange" "puke orange''.  (You Yankees just don't know the inflection it takes to make yeller orange, or puke orange sound just right (kinda like this-- "p-yooke").  I'll be that Olinemom does.)

I really did not think of "orange" as a football color.  Burnt Orange was always different.  When my older daughter went off to Auburn, I finally understood the different oranges...Tennessee Orange, Auburn Orange, Florida Orange, Clemson Orange, Virginia Orange, Okie State Cowboy Orange and Black, Illinois and Chicago Bear Orange, etc.  I then realized how many oranges there really were.   :D ;D :D ;D :) ;) 8)

 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 12, 2006, 01:18:18 PM


Anybody who chose Orange as the color for UVA has a big problem to begin with.  When he was there, it was Blue.  When I see all the Orange, I just shudder, it is so Clemson-like.  I was raised by a Paladin (read that Furman) so Clemson is not on my top million and the color orange is CLEMSON.  So as far as I am concerned, he has jinxed himself and his teams.  Of course I am the baseball mom at my school as well and we are very superstitious (and the Brownie mom for the UVA baseball team as well ;D ;D ;D)  I'd like to clone Chris Long.  Oh wait there are 2 more Longs in the pipeline, one of whom is a QB at STAB and Kyle who is built very much like his brother and to whom I owe brownies since last summer.  My bad!!  Al Groh is on my last nerve.  The lack of offense is a shame.  I want Gary Cuozzo back.  I want Frank,  I want Turnley Todd (Oh, showing my age there with these guys, but they are still my favorites along with Chris Long!!!!!   :o :o :o   Oh, by the way, did I tell you how I hate

]
I certainly agree with you concerning Clemson.....Florida, TN and TX I can live with. I agree all orange in UVA is a bit much. I do love the orange and blue together. Those were my high school colors and then like Groh, some idiot had to go and mess with them and change things to silver and blue.

As for Mr. Groh, he needs to be carried out of Charlottesville tared and feathered. He has no personality, and he has been out coached the last 3 years by everyone. How he made it in the pros I will never know.

Now that I am a proud Averett parent, I am getting use to Blue and Yellow as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on December 12, 2006, 03:06:26 PM
O-Line...

have you ever made Orange Brownies?  :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 15, 2006, 04:52:41 PM
Papi
Still there
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on December 15, 2006, 08:03:50 PM
ABN...yeah I'm still around.  I had my orders changed from Charleston to our Special Missions Training Center in Camp Lejeune were I'm going to be teaching our fast boats school. I'm trying to adjust to wearing green instead of blue. Maybe you can swing by and take a ride sometime!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 16, 2006, 02:19:33 AM
Look up a guy named Dan Moose. He's working up at the CG Commandant's office as trainer of "certain" special missions. He might be at the cultural, economic entertainment mecca of the western hemisphere; Camp.....oh Lejune. Anyway he is a good dude. Tell him you know BLUTO. He'll take of you.

I blew thru Bragg a week ago. One day FLAILEX. Woke up uh...hurting at the GB club (Green beret Sports Para Club) Thought I pulled a Narch waking up wearing womens underwear. lets get this straight it's only a comfort issue ;) With Narch is it's required with those GC gigs ;)

So give me run a down how EC will look next year.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on December 16, 2006, 10:04:33 PM
comfort...yeah, that's the ticket :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on December 18, 2006, 02:37:34 PM
Congrats to CNU's Rob Rodriguez on his numerous post-season accolades. Also, congrats to Rob Rod on his two tackles and a pick in USA's win over Mexico in the Aztec Bowl.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on December 21, 2006, 08:34:50 PM
ABN...EC had a lot of young talent this year and as long as we have Keifer coaching we will be ok.  One of his former stars TJ Courman plays slot back for App State, he has been in college two years and has two national championship rings.  That's not a bad way to start the career.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 22, 2006, 11:41:52 AM
Has anyone seen a combined schedule for next season yet. I am anxious to see who Averett has the second week. I think they only had Wesley for two years and curious to see who they will replace Wesley with. They open with Mount Union and should have Guilford the 3rd week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 26, 2006, 11:47:28 AM
ALCON
well I see everybody made it thru. Good

Papi. Good for EC alumni. APPY is always in the hunt. 

The last kid I coached at Havelock wrapped up his playing days at ECU in the bowl game. Will Bland was our QB but was made a wide out at ECU. I think he had 3 TDs for his career. But he will graduate. Thank the heavens for that
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 27, 2006, 07:02:20 PM
abngr,

  Happy Holidays brother.

Hope things are well for a few others of you as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 29, 2006, 09:31:29 PM
Mosh
You too bro.

At least I will not have a short drop with a sudden stop later tonight. Yikes
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on December 30, 2006, 11:31:17 AM
I bet it sounded like a bowl of rice krispies...snap, crackle, and POP!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 30, 2006, 06:25:17 PM
Papi
Hooah ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 12, 2007, 11:48:54 PM
I found this on the NWC site at Linfield and then took it thru the ASC.  I  thought that y'all would have some off-season fun with this.   :)

QuoteShenandoah beat
Greensboro who beat
Methodist who beat
Emory and Henry who beat
Newport News who beat
North Carolina Wesleyan who beat
Christopher Newport who beat
Mary Hardin-Baylor who twice beat
Hardin-Simmons who beat
Linfield who beat
Southern Oregon who beat
Azusa Pacific who beat
Malone who beat
Walsh who beat
West Liberty St who beat
Duquesne who beat
Fordham who beat
Albany NY who beat
Lehigh who beat
Villanova who beat
James Madison who beat
New Hampshire who beat
Northwestern who beat
Iowa who beat
Iowa St who beat
Missouri who beat
Mississippi who beat
Vanderbilt who beat
Georgia who beat
Auburn who beat
Florida
Title: Re: Tentative 2007 Guilford schedule
Post by: kickerdad on January 16, 2007, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: hasanova on November 19, 2006, 08:05:52 PM
It's not official yet, but I've been told Guilford will open at Southern Virginia next year (instead of Ferrum) and will play Methodist in Fayetteville for the 2nd year in a row.  For several years now, the Quakers have been on an odd schedule of four home games one year and six the next.  This tentative schedule is an attempt to equalize the slate at five home and five away each season.
Do you know if Averett is playing Guilford again this year. I was looking at open dates and Averett was looking for someone to play in 2007 on the date that they would normally play Guildford.
Title: Re: Tentative 2007 Guilford schedule
Post by: hasanova on January 16, 2007, 06:31:25 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on January 16, 2007, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: hasanova on November 19, 2006, 08:05:52 PM
It's not official yet, but I've been told Guilford will open at Southern Virginia next year (instead of Ferrum) and will play Methodist in Fayetteville for the 2nd year in a row.  For several years now, the Quakers have been on an odd schedule of four home games one year and six the next.  This tentative schedule is an attempt to equalize the slate at five home and five away each season.
Do you know if Averett is playing Guilford again this year. I was looking at open dates and Averett was looking for someone to play in 2007 on the date that they would normally play Guildford.
Hey kickerdad - The only things I heard through some unofficial sources about 2007 were that Guilford was not going to play Ferrum, was going to pick up Southern Virginia and would play at Methodist for the 2nd year in a row to get to get a balanced 5-5 home & away sequence.  Other than that, I'm positive we go to Greensboro College and play the normal 6-game ODAC slate.  As far as I know, Averett is still coming to Guilford in September - but they could be trading dates with someone such as SVU since we played Ferrum on opening day the past few years.  It's all just hearsay, so I don't have anything certain to back it up. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on January 27, 2007, 02:20:09 AM
I havent seen anything on the Greensboro yet. I just hope that the season turns out better than it did this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on February 05, 2007, 07:01:48 PM
I've been off the board awhile but I still read the posts and I'll
say it now, I expect NCWC to make a run at the USA football title
in "07 Catch the fever NOW!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on February 06, 2007, 01:04:40 PM
From what I saw when Averett played them in Rocky Mount this past season,  I would be shocked if they weren't in the top two going into the final half of the season. The offense looked real strong as did the defense, just not up to date on how many holes they need to fill from graduation.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 07, 2007, 12:22:47 AM
Admiral Papi
Give me your business e-mail or beam me one to these addreses:
thomas.person@northcom.mil
thomas.person@northcom.smil.mil

Prefer the .smil.mil. Hooah

Bluto
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on February 07, 2007, 08:26:19 PM
ABN,

I'll shoot you an email when I get into work tomorrow.

Narch, anything going on in Monarch camp...I know you've been down there spying  ;)

GO HEELS!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC DAD on February 08, 2007, 07:56:05 AM
NCWC only graduates 2 players, a OL and a DB! Everyone else returns.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on February 08, 2007, 02:17:35 PM
Quote from: NCWC DAD on February 08, 2007, 07:56:05 AM
NCWC only graduates 2 players, a OL and a DB! Everyone else returns.

Sounds like NCWC is going to be a force to reckon with this coming season. I wish I could say the same for Averett, but right now there are too many holes to fill (QB, RB, FB, WR, DB x2, LB, 2 or 3 line positions on both sides). Dunlevy has his work cut out for him on the recruitment end and getting these positions established early on in training camp. Dunlevy is a very good coach and he has excellant assistants and staff. They have a lot of good talent returning but these key positions that need to be filled will over shadow the returns early on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on February 08, 2007, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on January 27, 2007, 02:20:09 AM
I havent seen anything on the Greensboro yet. I just hope that the season turns out better than it did this season.

I believe it will.  I think things look much better now than they did at the start of last year.  I expect the improvement to be at least as last years improvement over 2005. JMO.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 09, 2007, 09:34:54 AM
Not sure if someone already posted this here, but Shenandoah's Lamont Moore is playing for the Huntington Heroes of the AIFA (http://www.heroesindoorfootball.com).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 10, 2007, 12:22:36 AM
Papi
Got your mail today 5 by 5.

need to set up an OP to terminate with extreme predjudice  those who oppose our will ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on February 10, 2007, 10:16:50 AM
Quote from: Matt Barnhart (kid) on February 09, 2007, 09:34:54 AM
Not sure if someone already posted this here, but Shenandoah's Lamont Moore is playing for the Huntington Heroes of the AIFA (http://www.heroesindoorfootball.com).

Cool, do many guys in our conference or the ODAC go on to play arena ball? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 10, 2007, 11:11:08 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on February 08, 2007, 02:17:35 PM
Quote from: NCWC DAD on February 08, 2007, 07:56:05 AM
NCWC only graduates 2 players, a OL and a DB! Everyone else returns.

Sounds like NCWC is going to be a force to reckon with this coming season. I wish I could say the same for Averett, but right now there are too many holes to fill (QB, RB, FB, WR, DB x2, LB, 2 or 3 line positions on both sides). Dunlevy has his work cut out for him on the recruitment end and getting these positions established early on in training camp. Dunlevy is a very good coach and he has excellant assistants and staff. They have a lot of good talent returning but these key positions that need to be filled will over shadow the returns early on.

I have to agree with you there. An early (and probably not surprising prediction): Averett is going to slide backward in a similar fashion that Ferrum did after the '05 season.

I don't see the Cougars breaking .500 this coming season. Losses to MUC, CNU, NCW and MVC seem like sure things. And I'm guessing there will be at least one more in there. I'm a fan of Dunlevy's coaching as well, but I don't think he has the depth returning to handle this season very well. Too many skill positions are being vacated.

OK, now I might be getting a little ahead of myself here, but I couldn't help but mention this:
-- A year after SU was co-champ in 2004, the team tanked into a 1-9 season.
-- A year after FC was co-champ in 2005, the team tanked into a 2-7 season, the worst drop-off of any D3 team in the country, as document in ATN and other columns.
-- A year after AU was runner-up in 2006 ....

Well, you can probably guess where that last part was headed. How is it that non-CNU teams can burst onto the scene one year and the slide back the next? This isn't intended to be a CNU rah-rah post about the team's staying power, rather it's something that kind of bothers me.

NCW is going to be a big dog this coming year. If they're top guys return as expected, there's a conference ring in their future. I can't help but wonder, though, if we could see them again in 2008? This Bishop team has a lot of solid young players. I think they have a good chance of breaking the "co-champ curse" of recent seasons.

But as I said...the season isn't quite here yet, so maybe I'm getting ahead of myself.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on February 11, 2007, 02:30:32 PM
Fellas, let's keep USA football talk going 24/7 - 365
GO NCWC!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on February 12, 2007, 12:53:14 PM
There are a few former monarchs playing in the nifl.

And I think there is a former Guilford guy playing in the AFL.

Cool, do many guys in our conference or the ODAC go on to play arena ball? 
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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 12, 2007, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on February 10, 2007, 11:11:08 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on February 08, 2007, 02:17:35 PM
Quote from: NCWC DAD on February 08, 2007, 07:56:05 AM
NCWC only graduates 2 players, a OL and a DB! Everyone else returns.

Sounds like NCWC is going to be a force to reckon with this coming season. I wish I could say the same for Averett, but right now there are too many holes to fill (QB, RB, FB, WR, DB x2, LB, 2 or 3 line positions on both sides). Dunlevy has his work cut out for him on the recruitment end and getting these positions established early on in training camp. Dunlevy is a very good coach and he has excellant assistants and staff. They have a lot of good talent returning but these key positions that need to be filled will over shadow the returns early on.

I have to agree with you there. An early (and probably not surprising prediction): Averett is going to slide backward in a similar fashion that Ferrum did after the '05 season.

I don't see the Cougars breaking .500 this coming season. Losses to MUC, CNU, NCW and MVC seem like sure things. And I'm guessing there will be at least one more in there. I'm a fan of Dunlevy's coaching as well, but I don't think he has the depth returning to handle this season very well. Too many skill positions are being vacated.

OK, now I might be getting a little ahead of myself here, but I couldn't help but mention this:
-- A year after SU was co-champ in 2004, the team tanked into a 1-9 season.
-- A year after FC was co-champ in 2005, the team tanked into a 2-7 season, the worst drop-off of any D3 team in the country, as document in ATN and other columns.
-- A year after AU was runner-up in 2006 ....

Well, you can probably guess where that last part was headed. How is it that non-CNU teams can burst onto the scene one year and the slide back the next? This isn't intended to be a CNU rah-rah post about the team's staying power, rather it's something that kind of bothers me.

NCW is going to be a big dog this coming year. If they're top guys return as expected, there's a conference ring in their future. I can't help but wonder, though, if we could see them again in 2008? This Bishop team has a lot of solid young players. I think they have a good chance of breaking the "co-champ curse" of recent seasons.

But as I said...the season isn't quite here yet, so maybe I'm getting ahead of myself.  ;)

Agreed...NCWC is gonna be tough this year.........anyone know what their graduation rate is?  ;D :D :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on February 12, 2007, 02:11:26 PM
I don't see the Cougars breaking .500 this coming season. Losses to MUC, CNU, NCW and MVC seem like sure things. And I'm guessing there will be at least one more in there. I'm a fan of Dunlevy's coaching as well, but I don't think he has the depth returning to handle this season very well. Too many skill positions are being vacated.


Not to mention the fact that Averett opens up on the road against Mount Union and lord only knows who they will play the second week. They played Wesley the last two years and that contract is over. You can count on Dunlevy to try and get hooked up with a real strong "out of conference" opponet, then they have to travel to Guilford...........Got the picture yet....I'm afraid it is going to be a long season unless Mike D.  can pull a rabbit out of the hat.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on February 12, 2007, 04:33:17 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on February 10, 2007, 11:11:08 PM

Well, you can probably guess where that last part was headed. How is it that non-CNU teams can burst onto the scene one year and the slide back the next? This isn't intended to be a CNU rah-rah post about the team's staying power, rather it's something that kind of bothers me.


Some of us might just be looking forward to that slide when The Pride finally 'burst upon the scene!'  ::)

As Art Shell, coach of the Oakland Raiders in 2006, said at the beginning of the season, "Maybe this will be the year . . . . " :-\

But just maybe, just maybe . . . .  8)

GC does have some nice returners and don't lose too much.  If current players improve and some pieces are added, could GC possibly make a run at the title?  :D

Go ahead - I have thick skin . . . . :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on February 12, 2007, 04:45:06 PM
This year was certainly the year for the Raiders!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC DAD on February 14, 2007, 09:00:51 AM
I can tell you why NCWC will be a factor for years to come.....Coach Ginn has the entire Eastern NC to get "players". Guys, I have a son playing there that signed with Catawba outta HS. Transfers to NCWC and has played in a reserve role his first 2 yrs. Should start this fall at OL. My point being, Ginn has a world of talent to choose from. We all know there are alot of kids out there that were one inch too short or 20 pounds too light for some D1 school that are still very good football players.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 14, 2007, 03:01:03 PM
Quote from: NCWC DAD on February 14, 2007, 09:00:51 AM
I can tell you why NCWC will be a factor for years to come.....Coach Ginn has the entire Eastern NC to get "players". Guys, I have a son playing there that signed with Catawba outta HS. Transfers to NCWC and has played in a reserve role his first 2 yrs. Should start this fall at OL. My point being, Ginn has a world of talent to choose from. We all know there are alot of kids out there that were one inch too short or 20 pounds too light for some D1 school that are still very good football players.

He also  gets good players from Southeastern Va that can't get into CNU...like Bush! And the 757 area code has  higher quality and quantity of players to choose from than Eastern NC.  I'm picking NCW to win the conf. this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 14, 2007, 07:47:22 PM
I had the chance to go to nc wes for a class last year.  They have some nice things going for them in that area.  What happened to all the talk about them going up divisions?? 

I had the chance to coach agains one of their coaches wife in basketball...she won...even more of a reason to cheer against the bishops.  that coaching staff has done a good job of getting a team together.  the only team that has been put together as quickly is the captains and we all know how fair that situation is.

I love stirring this board!   the captain hating is back

I think the Pride will again make strides.  This year is the year we go over .500  Roll Pride

The most important thing right now is Cowboy Lacrosse!   Run/Shoot

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on February 14, 2007, 08:08:58 PM
Quote from: CNU85 link=topic=4562.msg674560#msg674560
/quote]

Agreed...NCWC is gonna be tough this year.........anyone know what their graduation rate is?  ;D :D :o

I found some graduation data online. It is the 2006 data for 1999-00 cohort graduation rates for each of the USASAC schools:

              *          @ 
AU:        51%    45%
CNU:      45%    40%
FC:        34%   34%
GC:        20%   34%
MU:       34%    32%
NCWC:   40%    35%
SU:        45%    44%

The "*" represents "the 1999-00 cohort graduation rate" for all students in that class year.  The second column, listed as "@" is the "four-year class average."  I could not find any information seperating out student-athletes, but this was still interesting. 

I can't say how reliable this information is, I just googled it and found this site: http://www2.ncaa.org/portal/academics_and_athletes/education_and_research/academic_reform/grad_rate/2006/d3_school_grad_rate_data.html (http://www2.ncaa.org/portal/academics_and_athletes/education_and_research/academic_reform/grad_rate/2006/d3_school_grad_rate_data.html)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 16, 2007, 12:31:55 PM
Well, here's an interesting stat:
According to Wesleyan's '06 media guide and based on the online roster, the team didn't have a single senior on it. Everyone was a junior or younger. I had never noticed that before. Wow!

And many of the Bishops players who were on the stat leader sheets this past season are sophomores or freshmen. Even more of a reason to expect them to have some staying power around the top of the conference for at least two or three more years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 16, 2007, 03:43:46 PM
SU97
Good research,

Is COHORT like a Roman cohort?  ;)Serious..... like out of 600 which was what a cohort was made of. Or just the team numbers versus grad?.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 16, 2007, 08:49:12 PM
Well, it was only the third year of the program. That's going to happen. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Superfoot Wallace on February 16, 2007, 11:52:36 PM
Now that the progress reports for the elementary kids are out and the Lakers have made it to All Star Break, somebody call Barkley and tell him Alabama put the whup on Auburn in womens gymnastics.

best regards,
Brody Croyle  :-*
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AF4 on February 17, 2007, 12:30:19 PM
and i believe auburn put the..'whup'... on the bammers in swimming... as usual
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 17, 2007, 02:27:54 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 16, 2007, 08:49:12 PM
Well, it was only the third year of the program. That's going to happen. :)

Yes, thanks Pat.  I was aware of that.  ;)

But I assumed that NCW would have started out much the same way that a first-year team like LaGrange did. This past season, LaGrange had more than a dozen sophomores and even a couple of juniors on the team.

While I figure that the bulk of a startup team would be freshmen, I would've expected to see some other classes represented -- either from transfers or from upperclassmen just taking advantage of the new program. That's what was so surprising about NCW. Either they started with zero sophomores three years ago or all of the sophomores washed out. Either way, pretty interesting, methinks.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 20, 2007, 02:02:16 AM
Not sure when most teams will be rolling out their '07 skeds, but Ferrum's is posted on the school's Web site -- and I'm happy that they've rejoined the 10-game club:

September
1st:  vs. Emory & Henry
8th:  at Southern Virginia
15th:  at Bridgewater
22nd:  at Shenandoah
29th:  vs. Averett

October
6th:  at Maryville College
13th:  vs. Methodist
27th:  vs. Greensboro

November
3rd:  at N.C. Wesleyan
11th:  vs Christopher Newport

I checked the other schools' sites and nothing yet. As was mentioned in another recent post on the board, it'll be interesting to see who Averett gets to replace Wesley on the schedule.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 20, 2007, 11:30:41 PM
Legacy
3 on the road in a row sounds tough on those Panthers

No GC-Q either..........
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 21, 2007, 06:04:25 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on February 20, 2007, 11:30:41 PM
Legacy
3 on the road in a row sounds tough on those Panthers

No GC-Q either..........

Not to mention that opening at home against E&H isn't exactly going to be a cakewalk :-\  Hopefully, the FC starters will get a break that second week against SoVa  :D

If Ferrum can pull off two wins in these first three nonconference games, I'd be thrilled. Actually, I think that would be my hope for all of the USA South teams. I want to see most teams go at least 2-1 in nonconference play this season. Anything would be better than that 9-14 record we had last season.

I'm eager to see who some of the other teams are lined up to play in '07.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 22, 2007, 12:43:36 AM
Legacy
I feel for you because I had a sked that was 4 on the road up front (way back). You either be road warriors or the crowds get louder. Good luck my man
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on February 22, 2007, 06:50:02 PM
I have a Yahoo baseball league devoted to Virginia fans. All I ask is that you name your team after your VA college or VA city that you live in.  Email me if you would like to join.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 22, 2007, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on February 20, 2007, 02:02:16 AM
Not sure when most teams will be rolling out their '07 skeds, but Ferrum's is posted on the school's Web site -- and I'm happy that they've rejoined the 10-game club:

September
1st:  vs. Emory & Henry
8th:  at Southern Virginia
15th:  at Bridgewater
22nd:  at Shenandoah
29th:  vs. Averett

October
6th:  at Maryville College
13th:  vs. Methodist
27th:  vs. Greensboro

November
3rd:  at N.C. Wesleyan
11th:  vs Christopher Newport

I checked the other schools' sites and nothing yet. As was mentioned in another recent post on the board, it'll be interesting to see who Averett gets to replace Wesley on the schedule.

conference schedules are easy to figure out. I know CNU is going to Mary Hadin Baylor.....most likely they will also play Rowan and Salisbury again......that's a tough 3 games to start.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on February 23, 2007, 01:32:43 AM
CNU doesn't have their schedule online but it is as follows:

Sept 1 vs Rowan
Sept 8 at UMHB
Sept 15 vs Salisbury
Sept 29 vs Shenandoah

Oct 6 at Greensboro
Oct 13 vs Maryville
Oct 20 vs NCW

Nov 3 at Averett
Nov 10 at Ferrum

Also Congrats to Justin Wood who has landed with the Cincinnati Jungle Kats of AF2. I wish him the best and know he will be a force to be reckoned with just as he was at CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2007, 11:52:41 AM
Just nine games?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 23, 2007, 12:16:19 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2007, 11:52:41 AM
Just nine games?

i'm pretty certain the 10th game will be against the monarchs :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 23, 2007, 04:35:49 PM
Hmmmm interesting!!!Wesley also only has nine games last I heard and one of those was a Southern team not yet mentioned.. Though that would still leave the Wolverines with nine.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 24, 2007, 02:12:21 AM
Narch
I trying to get down to BM1 Dustin's (PAPI) place so he crush my vertebra on one of his boats at 60 knots. We should drag you in too........
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on February 24, 2007, 08:23:22 AM
As long as he doesn't wear the faux leather chaps!  :D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 24, 2007, 11:44:21 PM
Papi
No........ they will be real Boats..........Nothing artificial about Narch..........
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 25, 2007, 09:32:59 AM
Yoose guys loose me sometimes with your sea vernacular.

My team posted a 2-2 record in our scrimmage this week.

Northern Durham on the clock.

   Go Cowboys
Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on February 25, 2007, 07:33:20 PM
Skipped the Monarchs on Oct 20, which pushes the NCW game back to the 27th.
The revised October schedule:

Oct 6 at Greensboro
Oct 13 vs Maryville
Oct 20 at Methodist
Oct 27 vs NCW
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on February 26, 2007, 12:39:06 PM

Anyone know Greensboro's 2007 schedule?  Thanks!





ROLL PRIDE ! ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 27, 2007, 07:32:02 PM
Shenandoah now has its 2007 sked posted on the school's Web site. Albright, which was 2-8 this past season, is an interesting addition for Week 3.

A 2-8 MAC team from 2006 stacking up against a 2-8 USAC team. My interest is piqued.

Sept. 1  at Catholic
Sept. 8  Bridgewater
Sept. 15  Albright
Sept. 22  Ferrum
Sept. 29  at Christopher Newport

Oct. 13  Greensboro
Oct. 20  at N.C. Wesleyan
Oct. 27  at Averett

Nov. 3  Maryville
Nov. 10  at Methodist
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 28, 2007, 09:04:58 PM
mosh...where are you now?

papi - you've got it mostly correct...only the finest faux corinthian leather for me...wouldn't want to harm any helpless cows for senseless debauchery
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on March 01, 2007, 05:54:12 AM
He's alive....I was beginning to wonder if those aliens had taken you away again to do their "experiments" on you Narch.

How's Monarch camp looking?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on March 01, 2007, 03:28:53 PM
Just read on the Averett University Football site where wide receiver Jeff Hughley has signed to play for the Tulsa Talons of the Arena Football League.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 01, 2007, 06:48:46 PM
Narch,
  I took my first Head High School Job Coaching Varsity Lacrosse at Southwest Guilford High School.  I am minutes away from addressing 7000 screaming fans, parents and alumni.  Big meating before our first game.

Shoot em up Cowboys
Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on March 02, 2007, 10:48:45 AM
Woohoo!! I'm moving to Roanoke!

My fiancee and I just yesterday got offered jobs there, and we'll be heading out that way in the next month.  ;D ;D ;D  I'm stoked! Trading the ocean for the mountains.

Plus, my employer has offered me Friday and Saturdays off, which in my biz, is pretty rare. That means I'll get to be a fixture at Ferrum games and also see some other teams this fall.

Once again, woohoo!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 02, 2007, 03:38:11 PM
Congrats Legacy!! I remember you talking about that at a tailgate this past year....glad you were able to get what you wanted!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on March 02, 2007, 05:05:05 PM
Thanks 85!

Yeah, this job change has been several months in the works, and I'm a little nervous now that it's actually  happening  :o

I'm still planning on driving back to the coast this season to see Wesleyan play at CNU -- as long as the game doesn't fall on the Wabash-DePauw weekend, which I'm 99 percent sure it doesn't. It was fun this past year spending several weekends at Pomoco.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 02, 2007, 11:46:53 PM
0-0 is still perfect.

Knights postponed tonights action.

West Forsyth on the clock.

Shootem up cowboys
Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 06, 2007, 03:53:19 PM
MOSHY
GREAT JOB!!

I do not know if remember Brian my son when he played Nose at GC-Q but he is the D-Line coach at Rampart High (In CO)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 06, 2007, 08:10:21 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on March 06, 2007, 03:53:19 PM
MOSHY
GREAT JOB!!

I do not know if remember Brian my son when he played Nose at GC-Q but he is the D-Line coach at Rampart High (In CO)

the monarchs could use a d-lineman...or 2...does your boy have any that he wants to send our way? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 06, 2007, 11:51:23 PM
I got my first W as a Head High School Varsity Coach

8-6 nailbiter vs West Forsyth

Big 4th qtr saved me with 5 goals.

Roll Pride.
  Shootem up Cowboys.

Cedar Ridge on the clock
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 09, 2007, 05:03:57 PM
MOSH
Just remember the losses will leave you hollow and make you watch 1960s era Gladiator movies at night.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Snakehandler on March 12, 2007, 11:02:43 AM
I created a NCAA basketball Fantasy Bracket on Yahoo.com

League ID# 102031
Password  d3football

League Name  Post Patterns
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 16, 2007, 07:57:01 PM
So the Cowboys are 2-1 on the season.

Rematch to the team that beat us on Monday.




Big things happening around these parts.

Roll Pride
Shootem up Cowboys
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 18, 2007, 12:35:48 AM
Papi
I think the aliens have found (and have reached the limits of what can be ascertained) just about everything that will be found thru anal probes with Narch in his now well know debouchery.

Mosh will find that out after his the first State Championship he loses. We all have lost on of those............ before it's over
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 18, 2007, 06:10:54 PM
Abngr,

  Im not quite there yet.

Im just trying to figure out how I can win one game this week.  Prob my toughest stretch of the season this week.

Shootem up
Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on March 22, 2007, 08:23:33 PM
Unofficial word is that Ierulli now has a verbal I'll be there from Maryville High qb Derek Hunt.
6 foot, 175 pounds, was the running version of a two qb system that has picked up the last two Class 4A titles (third in a row) in TN and won 45 straight. Already had three from Alcoa -- the Aluminum Republic of America -- commit that bring in a combined 9 Class 2A title rings.

Looks like having a good conference run in the fall has added some sway for the Scots in the local recruiting ranks.

BTW Did USA South miss out with LaGrange and Huntingdon both going to the St. Louis IAC as football only members? http://www.lagrange.edu/athletics/football/ConferenceAnnouncement.htm
Seems like the miles would be just about the same considering the number of Illinois schools in that group. Either way its a long haul from midgeorgia and mid Alabama.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 23, 2007, 12:28:42 AM
Bard, I think that this is an excellent move for those GSAC schools for the next 4-6 years.  I think that both schools will be very competitive for that Pool A bid.

I think that LaGrange gets a very good chance to get to .500 in the SLIAC very quickly.  I think that both teams will benefit from the success.  I believe that the USAC is a stronger conference top to bottom, so the less stressful competition will allow LaGrange to be a winner faster.  Huntingdon ranks as my favorite for the first Pool A bid in the SLIAC, whenever that occurs.  Its Pool B chances got better, solely because it is hard to keep out a Pool B candidate if they can go undefeated, a not-incomprehensible thought even this year.

The move in D3 is towards conferences, wherever one can find them.  That is why we see Brockport and Mo'ville moving to the NJAC.  I also believe that the Capital AC will move towards the AQ as quickly as they can.  The USAC schools were not quite as pressed to find opponents "in the neighborhood".  The ACFC schools will need games in the VA-NC region..  Maryville can select between Sewanee, Centre, LaGrange and Huntingdon for its 3 non-conference games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on March 23, 2007, 01:25:27 AM
Ralph,
I agree that the USA Conf. was not as pressed to add teams, yet it might have been nice to make that step from the perspective of the GSAC. It might have paved the way for a complete merger of the two. Also, there have also been the rumors of CNU and Shenandoah moving to other conferences. As far as Maryville is concerned it has become harder and harder to schedule any of teams of the SCAC due to that conferences additions.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 23, 2007, 02:11:58 AM
Highlander, thanks for the post.

I hope that you are not echoing any of my conjectures about mid-Atlantic shake-ups, as I postulated who might be "shaken up" in the "shake ups".

Clearly, CNU would have some friends in the Public/Private Capital AC, and they could be the 4th football school instantly.

I am not sure where Shenandoah would be going now as the MAC has filled from the Penn AC, and doesn't seem to inclined to extend the bid to Shenandoah.  (Or, maybe Shenandoah graciously declined.)

Sewanee and Centre will have 2 non-conference games.

Is there any word about Oglethorpe adding football, or does the SCAC expansion take up any slack in the travel budget that might have been used for that addition?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on March 23, 2007, 04:41:33 AM
Ralph,
I am not hoping that the USA South conf. will lose any teams that they already have. I believe that this is a conf. that has some pretty good parity, yet now everyone except for CNU must work hard to gain some national respect (In- football). I was holding out hope that for the sake of the GSAC, that there might be a chance to merge with the USA South in all sports. In regards to Centre and Sewanee, both of these teams have many old rivals that might fill out their non-conference games. I think, but could be wrong that Sewanee and Maryville will not even play this upcoming season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on March 23, 2007, 07:24:14 AM
Quote from: batteredbard on March 22, 2007, 08:23:33 PM
Unofficial word is that Ierulli now has a verbal I'll be there from Maryville High qb Derek Hunt.
6 foot, 175 pounds, was the running version of a two qb system that has picked up the last two Class 4A titles (third in a row) in TN and won 45 straight. Already had three from Alcoa -- the Aluminum Republic of America -- commit that bring in a combined 9 Class 2A title rings.

Looks like having a good conference run in the fall has added some sway for the Scots in the local recruiting ranks.

BTW Did USA South miss out with LaGrange and Huntingdon both going to the St. Louis IAC as football only members? http://www.lagrange.edu/athletics/football/ConferenceAnnouncement.htm
Seems like the miles would be just about the same considering the number of Illinois schools in that group. Either way its a long haul from midgeorgia and mid Alabama.

     Good to see Tony getting the local talent. Long way from HS rings to USA South champions though! Let's hope. GO SCOTS!  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 23, 2007, 05:24:31 PM
  Ralph
Those schools that the MAC added from the Penn AC are non- football schools. They keep their AQ with nine teams so unless there is another suprise in the offering I think they will be happy to stay with that.
  Highlander

Wesley was interested a few years back in the USAS and was rejected by memebers if I rememeber correctly.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on March 23, 2007, 06:36:52 PM
The reason I brought it up is the two conferences have a definite budding swap for baseball and basketball in scheduling very competitive contest. Think LaGrange has played several USAS schools this spring and most every GSAC school had at least one USAS school on basketball sked this year.
I would think football is the next natural step but this move, which starts play in 08, seems to limit that chance.

Allsky, I agree totally, but its a good basis for bringing in the right attitude. Those seniors MC loses were all from class contender programs in hs. Waiting to see if Brad walker (transfer from lenoir-Rhine orig. from William Blount HS) gets first look at fullback or as the replacement at def end for Townsend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on March 29, 2007, 12:47:46 PM
For the Greensboro Guys,

Has anyone seen the 2007 football schedule for Greensboro and do you know if they will be playing night games this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 29, 2007, 02:09:40 PM
I've been out of the loop for awhile. I thought I heard or read a few weeks ago that a couple of CNU coaches were off to Univ. of Richmond -  a 1-AA school. Any CNU folks in the know???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on March 29, 2007, 04:48:15 PM
CNU85

according to Richmonds web site they picked up David Legg and Josh Lustig
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on March 29, 2007, 09:20:49 PM
Judging from the number of guys bent over and attempting to call dinosaurs out of the grass within site of the LAP this week. MC's spring running and conditioning has started and must be unusually cruel to start the day after spring break ended.

Think Walker is going to be tried out at defense first and as fullback type runner second. have to wait a few weeks to see if his presence brings the two-back set from last year out of the scrap heap and back into consideration.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on March 29, 2007, 09:24:21 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 23, 2007, 12:28:42 AM
Bard, I think that this is an excellent move for those GSAC schools for the next 4-6 years.  I think that both schools will be very competitive for that Pool A bid.

I think that LaGrange gets a very good chance to get to .500 in the SLIAC very quickly.  I think that both teams will benefit from the success.  I believe that the USAC is a stronger conference top to bottom, so the less stressful competition will allow LaGrange to be a winner faster.  Huntingdon ranks as my favorite for the first Pool A bid in the SLIAC, whenever that occurs.  Its Pool B chances got better, solely because it is hard to keep out a Pool B candidate if they can go undefeated, a not-incomprehensible thought even this year.


Ralph any idea what that will mean on a region basis? Will Huntingdon and LaGrange be considered out of the south region due to the conference they will be in? How will that play into folks like Maryville, Sewanee, Rhodes etc wanting to put them on the schedule?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 30, 2007, 02:48:41 AM
Even if they don't remain in the South Region for Division III football purposes, they will remain in the same administrative region as long as they remain in Alabama and Georgia and Maryville remains in Tennessee. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Scream on March 30, 2007, 07:27:37 AM
Great hire for Greensboro!!!  Sulkowski will bring some good things to the offense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 02, 2007, 06:13:59 PM
I don't think I have every seen this message board any more dried up than this. Nothing new on schedules, nothing new on the schools web pages, not a hint of what is being seen in spring practice, nothing. This has to be the worst part of the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on April 03, 2007, 12:44:27 PM
I didn't take the time to look back over the past couple of pages, but here are two lists of schedules that I don't think have been posted here yet. I got them from the schools' Web sites, so I hope they're right!

This does at least a little to ward away the off-season crickets on this board.

AVERETT
Sept. 1 at Mount Union
Sept. 15 at Guilford
Sept. 22 Washington & Lee  TBA
Sept. 29 at Ferrum
Oct. 6 Methodist
Oct. 13  NC Wesleyan
Oct. 20 at Greensboro
Oct. 27 Shenandoah
Nov. 3rd  Christopher Newport
Nov. 10 at Maryville

METHODIST
Sept. 8 Guilford
Sept. 15 at Chowan
Sept. 22 NC Wesleyan
Sept. 29 Emory & Henry
Oct. 6 at Averett
Oct. 13 at Ferrum
Oct. 20 Christopher Newport
Oct. 27 at Maryville
Nov. 3 at Greensboro
Nov. 10 Shenandoah
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 03, 2007, 01:05:36 PM
Quote from: Big Scream on March 30, 2007, 07:27:37 AMGreat hire for Greensboro!!!  Sulkowski will bring some good things to the offense.
On a related note, I was surfing the web the other night and found some discussion about Sulkowski in a North Carolina A&T fan site.  The back and forth conversation went something like this:

Sulkowski is leaving to take an assistant role at Guilford.
Why would anyone leave an assistant role at A&T to go to Guilford?
Well, actually it's an Offensive Coordinator position.
Well, yeah, but still ...
I don't think it's Guilford ... maybe Greensboro College.
I didn't know Greensboro had a team.  When did that happen?
I think they started a team about 10 years ago.  Some guy from Page HS is the Coach (Marion Kirby was the coach until about 5 years ago). 
Where do they play?  I've never seen them at Memorial (old baseball park adjacent to A&T).
Grimsley (HS), I think. (true)
Huh ... well, the Aggies need to get some more offense this fall. (he's right)

I guess the point I'm trying to make is here are some students (or alumni) at another school inside the city of Greensboro and some of them didn't know Greensboro College has fielded a football team since 1997.  Frustrating, but welcome to DIII in ACC, Southern Conference and MEAC country!  :)  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 03, 2007, 01:40:04 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 03, 2007, 01:05:36 PM
Quote from: Big Scream on March 30, 2007, 07:27:37 AMGreat hire for Greensboro!!!  Sulkowski will bring some good things to the offense.
On a related note, I was surfing the web the other night and found some discussion about Sulkowski in a North Carolina A&T fan site.  The back and forth conversation went something like this:

Sulkowski is leaving to take an assistant role at Guilford.
Why would anyone leave an assistant role at A&T to go to Guilford?
Well, actually it's an Offensive Coordinator position.
Well, yeah, but still ...
I don't think it's Guilford ... maybe Greensboro College.
I didn't know Greensboro had a team.  When did that happen?
I think they started a team about 10 years ago.  Some guy from Page HS is the Coach (Marion Kirby was the coach until about 5 years ago). 
Where do they play?  I've never seen them at Memorial (old baseball park adjacent to A&T).
Grimsley (HS), I think. (true)
Huh ... well, the Aggies need to get some more offense this fall. (he's right)

I guess the point I'm trying to make is here are some students (or alumni) at another school inside the city of Greensboro and some of them didn't know Greensboro College has fielded a football team since 1997.  Frustrating, but welcome to DIII in ACC, Southern Conference and MEAC country!  :)  lol


     Amazing....guess I am so D3 endoctrinated, that seems hard to believe.  Guess I / we are truly fortunate to have been exposed to D3 athletics at such an early age. For me, that was pretty much at birth.  ;D
     Can't remember if I shared this but I had a free ticket to go see UVA / GT play hoops in C-Ville a while back. I chose to go see H-SC and VWC play in the ODAC tourney. Boy am I glad I did!! The gf played hoops at Roanoke College but even she says I am crazy.   :o  :o Oh well!! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 03, 2007, 02:50:14 PM
Anyone know anything about Washington & Lee University. My cousin's husband is a grad from there (mid 60"s) he claims they use to be D1 and went to several big bowl games in the 50's, however something happened and they stopped playing for a few years. When they came back it was DIII. All I know is they are in the ODAC conference but other than Bridgewater and Guilford, I don't follow that conference. Does anyone have any insite to what Averett can expect from them? Have we gotten another Wesley to contend with, early in the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 03, 2007, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 03, 2007, 02:50:14 PM
Anyone know anything about Washington & Lee University. My cousin's husband is a grad from there (mid 60"s) he claims they use to be D1 and went to several big bowl games in the 50's, however something happened and they stopped playing for a few years. When they came back it was DIII. All I know is they are in the ODAC conference but other than Bridgewater and Guilford, I don't follow that conference. Does anyone have any insite to what Averett can expect from them? Have we gotten another Wesley to contend with, early in the season.

     They played non scholarship D1 lax until sometime in the 80's. I believe they played D3 in other sports. D3 has only been around since the 70's so I'm not sure what their affiliation was before then.
     With all due respect to the Generals, They are solid but I doubt they are on the same level as Wesley. At least the Wesley teams of the past few years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 03, 2007, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 03, 2007, 02:50:14 PMAnyone know anything about Washington & Lee University. My cousin's husband is a grad from there (mid 60"s) he claims they use to be D1 and went to several big bowl games in the 50's, however something happened and they stopped playing for a few years. When they came back it was DIII. All I know is they are in the ODAC conference but other than Bridgewater and Guilford, I don't follow that conference. Does anyone have any insite to what Averett can expect from them? Have we gotten another Wesley to contend with, early in the season.
W&L did, in fact, once play "big time" football, but your grandfather will have to tell you about it ... and they did go to some bowl games.   I'm talking more than 50 years ago.  Their stadium, Wilson Field, is on campus in Lexington, VA and probably seats 7000 or so.  "Way back when" W&L probably played UVa, VaTech, WVU and a lot of schools that are now ACC, Southern Conference or Big East, but that's sort of like saying Portugal used to be a naval power.

W&L is a truly excellent school academically and has an absolutely beautiful campus.  If the game is in Lexington, you should go for an overnight trip.  I've done it a couple of times and always enjoy sightseeing and local restaurants.  W&L is literally next door to VMI, so a lot of history with the chapel, Lee's tomb, Lee's stuffed horse Traveler, the Keydet parade ground and Civil War battlefield at Haymarket.  A trip to Lexington any time is great, but the fall is superior.

W&L is now thoroughly entrenched as a DIII school and won the ODAC last fall (7-3, 5-1).  The Generals were thoroughly beaten in the first round of the DIII play-offs, however, so they're still trying to build a better football program.  They are a LOT better than they used to be, but not Top 25 material.  Wesley, in my opinion, is still a much superior football program to W&L.  Enjoy the game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 03, 2007, 04:29:22 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on April 03, 2007, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 03, 2007, 02:50:14 PM
Anyone know anything about Washington & Lee University. My cousin's husband is a grad from there (mid 60"s) he claims they use to be D1 and went to several big bowl games in the 50's, however something happened and they stopped playing for a few years. When they came back it was DIII. All I know is they are in the ODAC conference but other than Bridgewater and Guilford, I don't follow that conference. Does anyone have any insite to what Averett can expect from them? Have we gotten another Wesley to contend with, early in the season.

     They played non scholarship D1 lax until sometime in the 80's. I believe they played D3 in other sports. D3 has only been around since the 70's so I'm not sure what their affiliation was before then.
     With all due respect to the Generals, They are solid but I doubt they are on the same level as Wesley. At least the Wesley teams of the past few years.

     Also, prior to the founding of the ODAC in 1976, Hampden-Sydney played in the Mason-Dixon Conference. W&L was not in that conference but did play the Tigers. The MD consisted of R-MC, H-SC, West. MD, Hopkins, Towson, Bridgewater, and Gallaudet. Shepherd was in the conf. in 1969 but that is as far back as my press guides go. Appraently they dropped out between 69 and 70. I know that is not much info on W&L but I thought it interesting anyway.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 03, 2007, 04:36:54 PM
Thanks for the information on W&L, I know Averett wanted to play the out of conference power's and didn't know that much about W&L. No telling what shape we will be in after that 1st game in Alliance with the Mount. Last year's game opened the teams eyes, so it will be interesting to see how they respond to Mt. Union this year and go from there. I would love to see them in contention again this year, but they did lose a lot of seniors at key positions.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on April 03, 2007, 07:25:45 PM
Dear followers of the USA south,

Been real quiet on here since it is the off- season. Maybe we need a topic to get things started for a nice discussion about football. I would like to pose one (or two)questions, feel free to respond or choose a question of your own. My question is simply this - It seems that for the short time that I have been following the conf. that except for CNU there seems to be a curse on whomever finishes the previous season as champions. What are your feelings on this- Is it that the conf. has parity or is it just that hard to be able to maintain due to the nature of D3 athletics? Side question- Who is seen as the front runners for the conf. championship, and will there be another tie for first?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 04, 2007, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: Highlander on April 03, 2007, 07:25:45 PM
Dear followers of the USA south,

Been real quiet on here since it is the off- season. Maybe we need a topic to get things started for a nice discussion about football. I would like to pose one (or two)questions, feel free to respond or choose a question of your own. My question is simply this - It seems that for the short time that I have been following the conf. that except for CNU there seems to be a curse on whomever finishes the previous season as champions. What are your feelings on this- Is it that the conf. has parity or is it just that hard to be able to maintain due to the nature of D3 athletics? Side question- Who is seen as the front runners for the conf. championship, and will there be another tie for first?
Don't know who the experts are picking this year, but based on what I saw last year and what I have read on this board, I would think NCWC is the top dog in the conference with CNU, Maryville right on their heals. I would hope that Averett could defend but that remains to be seen if they can fill some shoes that have graduated. Honestly I don't see any weak teams this year based on performance last year. Shenandoah, Ferrum and Greensboro should be ready to break back into the mix. NCWC, CNU and Maryville should be strong with Methodist and Averett being your sleepers this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 04, 2007, 01:33:27 PM
And unless UVA gets a new Offensive Cord, finds a running back, gets the QB healthy, and gets some linebackers and DB's that can play smart; they will be hard up to finish above 500 in the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 04, 2007, 04:19:11 PM
Kickerdad
 
We'll see real quick if NCWC is for real when they go to Wesley to open the 2008 season.

I was once a kickers dad....now I get to watch everyone elses kids. Which is so much more enjoyable at a wrestling match....   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 04, 2007, 04:43:36 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 04, 2007, 04:19:11 PM
Kickerdad
 
We'll see real quick if NCWC is for real when they go to Wesley to open the 2008 season.

I was once a kickers dad....now I get to watch everyone elses kids. Which is so much more enjoyable at a wrestling match....   
With regards to NCWC playing Wesley.......been there done that. With regards to being a kickers dad......these past two years have been up and down...Being a kickers dad certainly will cause "Heart Burn" and everything else that makes you quiver, shake, happy and upset... However we have been doing this since he was a freshman in high school and one of the coachs at Penn State where he went to camp for 3 years said...Kickers are in a world of thier own. If they miss don't say a word to them...they have to deal with it themselves. They will miss (even simple extra points) but don't get on them during a game, wait till the practice sessions. Trying to keep their heads together is tuff. Mine has had his ups and downs but his first two years have had their rewards. Kind of like you, I rather watch someone's else son at times.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on April 04, 2007, 06:26:35 PM
Pride loses Mars Hill and So. Va. and adds DII UNC Pembroke and Gallaudet.

See full sched, at
http://www.gborocollege.edu/athletics/sports/FOOTBALL/2007/07fbsched.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Scream on April 05, 2007, 07:41:59 PM
Here's how it will go down...
Sept. 8   @ UNC Pembroke     Win over a new program
Sept. 15  @ Gallaudet University Win over a "new" program                 
Sept. 22   @ Maryville College, TN * Loss, tough one on the road
Sept. 29  Guilford College  Big win over a rival
Oct. 6  Christopher Newport University *  Tight loss to a good program
Oct. 13  Shenandoah University  Big bounceback win
Oct. 20  Averett University #  Courgars not king of the jungle
Oct. 27  @ Ferrum College *   Win, O outscores the option
November
Nov. 3  Methodist College *  Win
Nov. 10 North Carolina Wesleyan College * Win

8-2, USAC Champs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 05, 2007, 10:05:56 PM
Quote from: Big Scream on April 05, 2007, 07:41:59 PM
Here's how it will go down...
Sept. 8   @ UNC Pembroke     Win over a new program
Sept. 15  @ Gallaudet University Win over a "new" program                 
Sept. 22   @ Maryville College, TN * Loss, tough one on the road
Sept. 29  Guilford College  Big win over a rival
Oct. 6  Christopher Newport University *  Tight loss to a good program
Oct. 13  Shenandoah University  Big bounceback win
Oct. 20  Averett University #  Courgars not king of the jungle
Oct. 27  @ Ferrum College *   Win, O outscores the option
November
Nov. 3  Methodist College *  Win
Nov. 10 North Carolina Wesleyan College * Win

8-2, USAC Champs

Looks good on paper, but here's how the Pride will go "down" on turf ...

Sept. 8   @ UNC Pembroke     Win over a new program  I agree
Sept. 15  @ Gallaudet University Win over a "new" program I agree
Sept. 22   @ Maryville College, TN * Loss, tough one on the road  I agree
Sept. 29  Guilford College  Big win over a rival  Not!  Quakers have Vogelbach, Pride do not  
Oct. 6  Christopher Newport University *  Tight loss to a good program  Probably
Oct. 13  Shenandoah University  Big bounceback win  Probably
Oct. 20  Averett University #  Courgars not king of the jungle  "Courgars" are not in Ohio, they'll be king of this jungle
Oct. 27  @ Ferrum College *   Win, O outscores the option  Road game - Pride lose
Nov. 3  Methodist College *  Win Maybe
Nov. 10 North Carolina Wesleyan College * Win  NCWC will probably be one of the better teams in the USASAC - I don't see it

4-6, 2-5 Tied for 5th
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on April 06, 2007, 01:54:12 AM
Quote from: hasanova on April 05, 2007, 10:05:56 PM
Sept. 29  Guilford College  Big win over a rival  Not!  Quakers have Vogelbach, Pride do not  


I agree with all scream says, except I think they beat Maryville.  8)

hasanova - Volgelbach had trouble beating the two-headed freak last year (dual QBs - my dad used to say anything with two heads was a freak - you gotta have a leader) and I think with consistent offensive leadership there will be a difference.  Voglebach is good, but so is the returning Pride QB - and with some outstanding receivers.  (Pride has Lowe, Quakers do not)   ;D

The Pride offense will be more balanced than Guilly's - good running AND good passing.  :P 

I'm hoping a new offensive coach will relieve some of the pressure off of the HC. Mitchell did a great job with what he had, but I think they missed the OC who left before the season began.  :-\



ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !
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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 06, 2007, 06:17:51 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on April 06, 2007, 01:54:12 AM
Quote from: hasanova on April 05, 2007, 10:05:56 PM
Sept. 29  Guilford College  Big win over a rival  Not!  Quakers have Vogelbach, Pride do not  


I agree with all scream says, except I think they beat Maryville.  8)

hasanova - Volgelbach had trouble beating the two-headed freak last year (dual QBs - my dad used to say anything with two heads was a freak - you gotta have a leader) and I think with consistent offensive leadership there will be a difference.  Voglebach is good, but so is the returning Pride QB - and with some outstanding receivers.  (Pride has Lowe, Quakers do not)   ;D

The Pride offense will be more balanced than Guilly's - good running AND good passing.  :P 

I'm hoping a new offensive coach will relieve some of the pressure off of the HC. Mitchell did a great jop with what he had, but I think they missed the OC who left before the season began.  :-\



ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !
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newbie, I hope you know a lot of what I wrote was in good-natured fun, but I honestly don't see the Pride going 8-2.  I've been at all ten Souper Bowls and the last two, in particular, were intense.  The Pride certainly have some great offensive weapons, but I think the Quakers will pull it out again.  Good luck to Greensboro (except on September 29)!  :)  Peace   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 06, 2007, 07:08:00 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on April 06, 2007, 01:54:12 AM
Quote from: hasanova on April 05, 2007, 10:05:56 PM
Sept. 29  Guilford College  Big win over a rival  Not!  Quakers have Vogelbach, Pride do not  


I agree with all scream says, except I think they beat Maryville.  8)

hasanova - Volgelbach had trouble beating the two-headed freak last year (dual QBs - my dad used to say anything with two heads was a freak - you gotta have a leader) and I think with consistent offensive leadership there will be a difference.  Voglebach is good, but so is the returning Pride QB - and with some outstanding receivers.  (Pride has Lowe, Quakers do not)   ;D

The Pride offense will be more balanced than Guilly's - good running AND good passing.  :P 

I'm hoping a new offensive coach will relieve some of the pressure off of the HC. Mitchell did a great jop with what he had, but I think they missed the OC who left before the season began.  :-\



ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !
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     Nope....the Scots win at home.  ;D In G-Boro it's a 4 OT toss up ala NCW.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 06, 2007, 07:38:20 AM
NEWSFLASH....... BEN STRONG LEADS GUILFORD QUAKERS TO D3 FOOTBALL TITLE CRUSHING THE MIGHTY MOUNT UNION PURPLE RAIDERS

     The Guilford College Quakers after a cakewalk through the ODAC, continued their undefeated season through the D3 playoffs with a thrashing of the perenial power Purple Raiders in Salem on Saturday. Ben Strong...aka Superman was quoted as saying "football is for sissies". The Quaker Sr. rushed for 250 yards scoring 4 TDs, recorded 16 tackles recovering 2 fumbles and picking off 3 passes, one returned for a TD. All of Strongs kickoffs split the uprights. One even landing on the roof of the locker room.  "I really felt sorry for them so I asked coach to take me out in the second half".
     It was the first national championship for the Quakers.

    Sorry Hasa....guess I had a little too much coffee this AM.  ;D :D
     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 06, 2007, 08:59:12 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on April 06, 2007, 07:38:20 AM
NEWSFLASH....... BEN STRONG LEADS GUILFORD QUAKERS TO D3 FOOTBALL TITLE CRUSHING THE MIGHTY MOUNT UNION PURPLE RAIDERS

     The Guilford College Quakers after a cakewalk through the ODAC, continued their undefeated season through the D3 playoffs with a thrashing of the perenial power Purple Raiders in Salem on Saturday. Ben Strong...aka Superman was quoted as saying "football is for sissies". The Quaker Sr. rushed for 250 yards scoring 4 TDs, recorded 16 tackles recovering 2 fumbles and picking off 3 passes, one returned for a TD. All of Strongs kickoffs split the uprights. One even landing on the roof of the locker room.  "I really felt sorry for them so I asked coach to take me out in the second half".
     It was the first national championship for the Quakers.

    Sorry Hasa....guess I had a little too much coffee this AM.  ;D :D
     

I don't think it's called coffee!!!!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 06, 2007, 11:07:40 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on April 06, 2007, 08:59:12 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on April 06, 2007, 07:38:20 AM
NEWSFLASH....... BEN STRONG LEADS GUILFORD QUAKERS TO D3 FOOTBALL TITLE CRUSHING THE MIGHTY MOUNT UNION PURPLE RAIDERS

     The Guilford College Quakers after a cakewalk through the ODAC, continued their undefeated season through the D3 playoffs with a thrashing of the perenial power Purple Raiders in Salem on Saturday. Ben Strong...aka Superman was quoted as saying "football is for sissies". The Quaker Sr. rushed for 250 yards scoring 4 TDs, recorded 16 tackles recovering 2 fumbles and picking off 3 passes, one returned for a TD. All of Strongs kickoffs split the uprights. One even landing on the roof of the locker room.  "I really felt sorry for them so I asked coach to take me out in the second half".
     It was the first national championship for the Quakers.

    Sorry Hasa....guess I had a little too much coffee this AM.  ;D :D
     

I don't think it's called coffee!!!!!  :D
Yea, but it starts with a "C"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 06, 2007, 02:13:06 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on April 06, 2007, 07:38:20 AM
NEWSFLASH....... BEN STRONG LEADS GUILFORD QUAKERS TO D3 FOOTBALL TITLE CRUSHING THE MIGHTY MOUNT UNION PURPLE RAIDERS

     The Guilford College Quakers after a cakewalk through the ODAC, continued their undefeated season through the D3 playoffs with a thrashing of the perenial power Purple Raiders in Salem on Saturday. Ben Strong...aka Superman was quoted as saying "football is for sissies". The Quaker Sr. rushed for 250 yards scoring 4 TDs, recorded 16 tackles recovering 2 fumbles and picking off 3 passes, one returned for a TD. All of Strongs kickoffs split the uprights. One even landing on the roof of the locker room.  "I really felt sorry for them so I asked coach to take me out in the second half".
     It was the first national championship for the Quakers.

    Sorry Hasa....guess I had a little too much coffee this AM.  ;D :D
     

You forgot to mention his three blocked punts and two blocked FG attempts, one of which he caught on the fly and ran in for a score.  :)  Thanks for the laugh - good fun.   lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on April 06, 2007, 05:16:22 PM
Quote from: Big Scream on April 05, 2007, 07:41:59 PM
Here's how it will go down...
Sept. 8   @ UNC Pembroke     Win over a new program
Sept. 15  @ Gallaudet University Win over a "new" program                
Sept. 22   @ Maryville College, TN * Loss, tough one on the road
Sept. 29  Guilford College  Big win over a rival
Oct. 6  Christopher Newport University *  Tight loss to a good program
Oct. 13  Shenandoah University  Big bounceback win
Oct. 20  Averett University #  Courgars not king of the jungle
Oct. 27  @ Ferrum College *   Win, O outscores the option
November
Nov. 3  Methodist College *  Win
Nov. 10 North Carolina Wesleyan College * Win

8-2, USAC Champs
I think Maryville may be the biggest mystery call. Last year almost everyone else was working with a new QB while the Scots had experience at signal-caller in Price that certainly asserted itself the middle of the season. But now MC (they do get to use it now since Methodist is now MU right?) will be breaking in a new face.
Not that the options back there are bad but they will be new. Scots can lean on the running game to a a point with Hightower being the playmaker he is but the QB is vital in that offense. The top three contenders can all run but they aren't as elusive as Price so far.
Bottom line is the team took a step forward last year but to be considered more than one-year wonder they have to have a similar season this year which is tough with a sophomore or freshman at the helm.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Scream on April 06, 2007, 05:19:33 PM
Let me keep on breaking this down.
AVERETT
Sept. 1 at Mount Union  Big time L.
Sept. 15 at Guilford   Close loss
Sept. 22 Washington & Lee  W, big in-state game
Sept. 29 at Ferrum Loss, I like that O
Oct. 6 Methodist Win
Oct. 13  NC Wesleyan  Win, I'm not as high on these guys as others are
Oct. 20 at Greensboro  L, SMOKED!!!
Oct. 27 Shenandoah  Win, I'm really not big on Shenandoah
Nov. 3rd  Christopher Newport  Loss
Nov. 10 at Maryville Loss, I like M'ville at home.

METHODIST
Sept. 8 Guilford  Loss
Sept. 15 at Chowan Win, Chowan is terrible
Sept. 22 NC Wesleyan Loss
Sept. 29 Emory & Henry Loss, the Flying Welly's strike again!!!
Oct. 6 at Averett  Loss
Oct. 13 at Ferrum Loss
Oct. 20 Christopher Newport Loss
Oct. 27 at Maryville  Loss
Nov. 3 at Greensboro LOSS!!!
Nov. 10 Shenandoah Win
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on April 07, 2007, 02:11:56 AM
Such a pleasure to see some great discussion about USA South football. Interesting viewpoints have been brought up. Here is my two cents- I think that the winner of the conf. this year will have at least one or two losses due to the improvement of the teams from top to bottom. If you look at the majority of the teams from last year- most played with some youth at key positions, now if those youthful players can become game- changers then I believe that the conf. might not be decided until the last weekend of the season.
Next Question: How much do you think that Spring practice helps, even though teams are not allowed to use pads?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on April 07, 2007, 11:03:59 AM
Well the USA South has never had a team go underfeated in conference I don't think.  But you are correct in saying that from top to bottom the conference has been much improved.  There are no gimme weekends in the USA South anymore.

ABN...you still out there...I was doing some training with some of your boys the other day!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 07, 2007, 04:45:32 PM
Cowboys sitting at 4-4!

I read a news article the other day about nc wes getting shotdown to be unc rocky mount.  Bowels said that education in rocky mount was not a priority "way messed up" ..


Roll Pride

Shoot them up Cowboys
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on April 08, 2007, 11:39:42 AM
Again its been a while since I have been on here.  Just wanted to let everyone know if it hasn't been known already about the Greensboro Revolution.

There are currently to USASouth former players on the team.

Terrance Moore of Methodist and Tyrelle Lee of Greensboro.

There are also 3 coaches that either graduated from Greensboro College or coached at Greensboro College.

Revolution website http://www.niflrevolution.com/index.asp

They are currently 2-0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 09, 2007, 09:54:49 PM
Quote from: Big Scream on April 06, 2007, 05:19:33 PMMETHODIST
Sept. 8 Guilford  Loss
Sept. 15 at Chowan Win, Chowan is terrible
Sept. 22 NC Wesleyan Loss
Sept. 29 Emory & Henry Loss, the Flying Welly's strike again!!!
Oct. 6 at Averett  Loss
Oct. 13 at Ferrum Loss
Oct. 20 Christopher Newport Loss
Oct. 27 at Maryville  Loss
Nov. 3 at Greensboro LOSS!!!
Nov. 10 Shenandoah Win

if the monarchs go 2-8 and the pride go 8-2, i will permanently add a line of your choice complimenting gc or yourself to each of my posts on these boards...don't hold your breath on either account...

now, what will you do if the pride goes 4-6 (again) and loses to mu?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 09, 2007, 09:59:01 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on April 08, 2007, 11:39:42 AM
Again its been a while since I have been on here.  Just wanted to let everyone know if it hasn't been known already about the Greensboro Revolution.

There are currently to USASouth former players on the team.

Terrance Moore of Methodist and Tyrelle Lee of Greensboro.

There are also 3 coaches that either graduated from Greensboro College or coached at Greensboro College.

Revolution website http://www.niflrevolution.com/index.asp

They are currently 2-0

the monarchs have a bunch of guys playing for the fayetteville guard...rocket, byrd, futch, gauntlett, malloy and leggett are all on the roster and playing quite a bit, if i'm not mistaken
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Scream on April 10, 2007, 01:59:27 PM
If Greensboro goes 4-6 and loses to Methodist??? Well, I really wouldn't care.  I only have a limited rooted interest in GC, just a curious observer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 10, 2007, 04:18:49 PM
ADM
yea I am here...............watching, waiting........
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on April 10, 2007, 05:15:41 PM
Well at least they can use a football now.
God was that rule ever a laugher. Yes you can have spring practice you just cant have helmet, pads or a football involved. ???

Having seen most of the fields now that MC has hosted and played everyone over the last two seasons, discounting the shrine at CNU who has the best/worst gridiron facilities for game day?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 10, 2007, 06:35:15 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on April 10, 2007, 05:15:41 PM
Well at least they can use a football now.
God was that rule ever a laugher. Yes you can have spring practice you just cant have helmet, pads or a football involved. ???

Having seen most of the fields now that MC has hosted and played everyone over the last two seasons, discounting the shrine at CNU who has the best/worst gridiron facilities for game day?


I rank them in this order


Playing fields:                          Stadiums:

1. Maryville                           1. CNU
2. CNU                                  2. Maryville
3. Methodist                         3. Shenandoah
4. NCWC                               4. Ferrum
5. Ferrum                              5. Tie - NCWC & Greensboro (city stadiums)
6. Greensboro                       6. Methodist  (no visitor side seats)
7. Shenandoah                     7. Averett (make shift)
8. Averett

It was 2005 when I saw Maryville, Ferrum and Greensboro, a lot could have happened since then.

I know that the Averett folks that read this, especially players and coaches will tar and feather me, but Averett is the worst of the worst.  Kept too wet, the turf is not tight at all.  The soccer team plays on the field and tears it up in addition to the football team. Chowan has a better field than Averett. Hopefully they have made some adjustments this spring and summer.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 10, 2007, 08:03:27 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 10, 2007, 06:35:15 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on April 10, 2007, 05:15:41 PM
Well at least they can use a football now.
God was that rule ever a laugher. Yes you can have spring practice you just cant have helmet, pads or a football involved. ???

Having seen most of the fields now that MC has hosted and played everyone over the last two seasons, discounting the shrine at CNU who has the best/worst gridiron facilities for game day?


I rank them in this order


Playing fields:                          Stadiums:

1. Maryville                           1. CNU
2. CNU                                  2. Maryville
3. Methodist                         3. Shenandoah
4. NCWC                               4. Ferrum
5. Ferrum                              5. Tie - NCWC & Greensboro (city stadiums)
6. Greensboro                       6. Methodist  (no visitor side seats)
7. Shenandoah                     7. Averett (make shift)
8. Averett

It was 2005 when I saw Maryville, Ferrum and Greensboro, a lot could have happened since then.

I know that the Averett folks that read this, especially players and coaches will tar and feather me, but Averett is the worst of the worst.  Kept too wet, the turf is not tight at all.  The soccer team plays on the field and tears it up in addition to the football team. Chowan has a better field than Averett. Hopefully they have made some adjustments this spring and summer.



      I have only seen Maryville, Ferrum, and Averett so will have to take your word on the others. Without a doubt MC has the best playing field and stadium. This hasn't always been the case. As an alum, I am very proud of the improvements made in the last 5 years or so. Not only to the athletic facilities but the campus in general has looked great the last few trips down.  GO SCOTS!!  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 10, 2007, 11:26:58 PM
I've been to four of the USASAC stadiums.  Greensboro still plays at Grimsley HS, which is a fairly nice high school field that seats 10,000.  The field gets a lot of play from Grimsley with football, the East/West all-star game (the NC HS coaches association is next door), men's and women's lacrosse and men's and women's soccer.  Then Pride football takes its toll.  It's really GCP's only option unless they build something on campus (where they have no space!).  Methodist is on campus and very accessible from parking, but it is a little odd that all the seats are on one side.  Ferrum's field fits the terrain and takes advantage of the hillside.  It's actually a pretty place to see a game.  Averett disappointed me last fall.  I knew they had a  sports complex separate from the rest of the campus and I was, well, expecting better stands.  The fieldhouse looked nice, but the stands were downright weird and the landscaping looked bare.  It looked like someone dumped out a child's erector set and wherever the parts landed they put up a tiny little bleacher.  I counted about five or six small sets of home stands that were all very disjointed.  Your best bet on the visitor side is to bring your own lawn chair.  I'm sorry, but it just looked and seemed odd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 11, 2007, 07:35:21 AM
Quote from: hasanova on April 10, 2007, 11:26:58 PM
I've been to four of the USASAC stadiums.  Greensboro still plays at Grimsley HS, which is a fairly nice high school field that seats 10,000.  The field gets a lot of play from Grimsley with football, the East/West all-star game (the NC HS coaches association is next door), men's and women's lacrosse and men's and women's soccer.  Then Pride football takes its toll.  It's really GCP's only option unless they build something on campus (where they have no space!).  Methodist is on campus and very accessible from parking, but it is a little odd that all the seats are on one side.  Ferrum's field fits the terrain and takes advantage of the hillside.  It's actually a pretty place to see a game.  Averett disappointed me last fall.  I knew they had a  sports complex separate from the rest of the campus and I was, well, expecting better stands.  The fieldhouse looked nice, but the stands were downright weird and the landscaping looked bare.  It looked like someone dumped out a child's erector set and wherever the parts landed they put up a tiny little bleacher.  I counted about five or six small sets of home stands that were all very disjointed.  Your best bet on the visitor side is to bring your own lawn chair.  I'm sorry, but it just looked and seemed odd.

     I have a friend on the coaching staff at Averett. The last time we chatted a few months back, I think I recall him saying they were trying to raise money for improvements. They do have a nice complex there with lots of parking and room but the football field/stadium does need a little work. Guess these things do take time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 11, 2007, 08:46:04 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on April 11, 2007, 07:35:21 AM
Quote from: hasanova on April 10, 2007, 11:26:58 PM
I've been to four of the USASAC stadiums.  Greensboro still plays at Grimsley HS, which is a fairly nice high school field that seats 10,000.  The field gets a lot of play from Grimsley with football, the East/West all-star game (the NC HS coaches association is next door), men's and women's lacrosse and men's and women's soccer.  Then Pride football takes its toll.  It's really GCP's only option unless they build something on campus (where they have no space!).  Methodist is on campus and very accessible from parking, but it is a little odd that all the seats are on one side.  Ferrum's field fits the terrain and takes advantage of the hillside.  It's actually a pretty place to see a game.  Averett disappointed me last fall.  I knew they had a  sports complex separate from the rest of the campus and I was, well, expecting better stands.  The fieldhouse looked nice, but the stands were downright weird and the landscaping looked bare.  It looked like someone dumped out a child's erector set and wherever the parts landed they put up a tiny little bleacher.  I counted about five or six small sets of home stands that were all very disjointed.  Your best bet on the visitor side is to bring your own lawn chair.  I'm sorry, but it just looked and seemed odd.
I have a friend on the coaching staff at Averett. The last time we chatted a few months back, I think I recall him saying they were trying to raise money for improvements. They do have a nice complex there with lots of parking and room but the football field/stadium does need a little work. Guess these things do take time.
Hey, allsky.  No question about it, Averett does have a nice facility and they have, indeed, made great strides.  I guess I was just a little surprised at how football was set up.  It does take time - and money - and they'll get there!   AU really has accomplished a lot in a relatively short period of time, so I give credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on April 11, 2007, 05:31:31 PM
The one I can't recall exactly is where the teams have to walk through a tunnel under I-81 to get to the field from the locker rooms. I'm having brain freeze on which game that was. But it was unique. I think the teams stay on the field during halftime because walking back and forth would take longer than halftime lasts.
I liked CNU for parking and the stadium is pretty incredible for D3, but the online directions need to be updated to reflect the change in the roads in the area since they were written.
But of the ones I've seen I must say MC has the only field where its tradition for some to park behind the end zone in what I think is technically off campus but not sure and be able to pop a top or five to watch the games.
The fact soccer has its own field at Maryville (now with lights) makes a huge impact on the quality of the field. The overusage of field issue showed up last year at the Titans Stadium where it was in rough shape after hosting NFL plus Tenn State's home gams, a few lawn concerts in late summer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 11, 2007, 09:39:19 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on April 11, 2007, 05:31:31 PM
The one I can't recall exactly is where the teams have to walk through a tunnel under I-81 to get to the field from the locker rooms. I'm having brain freeze on which game that was. But it was unique. I think the teams stay on the field during halftime because walking back and forth would take longer than halftime lasts.
I liked CNU for parking and the stadium is pretty incredible for D3, but the online directions need to be updated to reflect the change in the roads in the area since they were written.
But of the ones I've seen I must say MC has the only field where its tradition for some to park behind the end zone in what I think is technically off campus but not sure and be able to pop a top or five to watch the games.
The fact soccer has its own field at Maryville (now with lights) makes a huge impact on the quality of the field. The overusage of field issue showed up last year at the Titans Stadium where it was in rough shape after hosting NFL plus Tenn State's home gams, a few lawn concerts in late summer.
I've never been to Shenandoah, but it's the only USASAC school that could be even remotely close to I-81.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 11, 2007, 10:00:19 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on April 11, 2007, 05:31:31 PM
The one I can't recall exactly is where the teams have to walk through a tunnel under I-81 to get to the field from the locker rooms. I'm having brain freeze on which game that was. But it was unique. I think the teams stay on the field during halftime because walking back and forth would take longer than halftime lasts.
I liked CNU for parking and the stadium is pretty incredible for D3, but the online directions need to be updated to reflect the change in the roads in the area since they were written.
But of the ones I've seen I must say MC has the only field where its tradition for some to park behind the end zone in what I think is technically off campus but not sure and be able to pop a top or five to watch the games.
The fact soccer has its own field at Maryville (now with lights) makes a huge impact on the quality of the field. The overusage of field issue showed up last year at the Titans Stadium where it was in rough shape after hosting NFL plus Tenn State's home gams, a few lawn concerts in late summer.


     I'm not positive where the exact boundary is but I think the end of the football field you refer to IS on campus. I believe campus ends at Court St. directly behind where the tailgaters are. Tailgating at Maryville has improved dramatically in the last 10 or 15 years. For homecoming at least, there are large tailgate parties at both ends of the field. I think they finally figured out that if alums come back and have a good time, they are more generous with their checkbooks.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 15, 2007, 05:33:36 PM
The USAC really messed up today.

  The championship game between the cnu and gc womans lax team was cancelled and the ncaa bid went to the higher seed with no makeup.

How ridiculous is that?

Imagine playing an entire season with the goal to get to the championship game only to have the game taken away and given to the team with the higher seed. 

Roll Pride

Shootem up Cowboys 5-5
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on April 15, 2007, 06:48:27 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 10, 2007, 06:35:15 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on April 10, 2007, 05:15:41 PM

I know that the Averett folks that read this, especially players and coaches will tar and feather me, but Averett is the worst of the worst.  Kept too wet, the turf is not tight at all.  The soccer team plays on the field and tears it up in addition to the football team. Chowan has a better field than Averett. Hopefully they have made some adjustments this spring and summer. 


Tar and Feather? I'm not a player or coach, but I give you a standing O! I agree 100%. Not sure about adjustments but I've got my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 25, 2007, 05:19:06 PM
Congrats to RobRod of CNU - named to the first ever USA National team!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 25, 2007, 08:53:02 PM
numerous monarch student-athletes were recognized at the athletic awards night tuesday night, among them was former monarch o-lineman, rhyan breen

Quote from: monarchs onlineThe Rita Wiggs Courageous Monarch Award is named in honor of former Methodist Athletic Director and current USA South Athletic Conference Commissioner Rita Wiggs following her battle with cancer.  Senior football player Rhyan Breen was presented the award after overcoming numerous adversities this year.  Last season Breen was a USA South All-Conference football player but spent the summer in rehabbing his knee after a torn ACL last spring.  His father was diagnosed with terminal cancer, but Breen set goals to return to the football field and graduate in three years so his father could see him.  Breen was back on the field in six months but unfortunately his father passed away during the season.  He is set to graduate this spring in his set time frame of three years where presenter Wiggs reminded the audience, "his father will have a front row seat from up above."

rhyan really embodies d3 football, if you ask me - he came to mu tipping the scales at about 220 lbs, and was lightly recruited as an athlete in high school (heavily recruited as a student, though) - 3 years later, rhyan is a 2 year starter (tipping the scales at about 270), an all-conference performer and heading to law school after graduating in 3 years...congrats, rhyan and all other monarchs who received awards on  tuesday night
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 26, 2007, 12:55:30 AM
Quote from: narch on April 25, 2007, 08:53:02 PM
numerous monarch student-athletes were recognized at the athletic awards night tuesday night, among them was former monarch o-lineman, rhyan breen

Quote from: monarchs onlineThe Rita Wiggs Courageous Monarch Award is named in honor of former Methodist Athletic Director and current USA South Athletic Conference Commissioner Rita Wiggs following her battle with cancer.  Senior football player Rhyan Breen was presented the award after overcoming numerous adversities this year.  Last season Breen was a USA South All-Conference football player but spent the summer in rehabbing his knee after a torn ACL last spring.  His father was diagnosed with terminal cancer, but Breen set goals to return to the football field and graduate in three years so his father could see him.  Breen was back on the field in six months but unfortunately his father passed away during the season.  He is set to graduate this spring in his set time frame of three years where presenter Wiggs reminded the audience, "his father will have a front row seat from up above."

rhyan really embodies d3 football, if you ask me - he came to mu tipping the scales at about 220 lbs, and was lightly recruited as an athlete in high school (heavily recruited as a student, though) - 3 years later, rhyan is a 2 year starter (tipping the scales at about 270), an all-conference performer and heading to law school after graduating in 3 years...congrats, rhyan and all other monarchs who received awards on  tuesday night
Thanks for sharing this, narch.  Rhyan sounds like a great young man.  I believe his Dad's spirit will be with him wherever he goes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 26, 2007, 06:24:30 AM
Quote from: hasanova on April 26, 2007, 12:55:30 AM
Quote from: narch on April 25, 2007, 08:53:02 PM
numerous monarch student-athletes were recognized at the athletic awards night tuesday night, among them was former monarch o-lineman, rhyan breen

Quote from: monarchs onlineThe Rita Wiggs Courageous Monarch Award is named in honor of former Methodist Athletic Director and current USA South Athletic Conference Commissioner Rita Wiggs following her battle with cancer.  Senior football player Rhyan Breen was presented the award after overcoming numerous adversities this year.  Last season Breen was a USA South All-Conference football player but spent the summer in rehabbing his knee after a torn ACL last spring.  His father was diagnosed with terminal cancer, but Breen set goals to return to the football field and graduate in three years so his father could see him.  Breen was back on the field in six months but unfortunately his father passed away during the season.  He is set to graduate this spring in his set time frame of three years where presenter Wiggs reminded the audience, "his father will have a front row seat from up above."

rhyan really embodies d3 football, if you ask me - he came to mu tipping the scales at about 220 lbs, and was lightly recruited as an athlete in high school (heavily recruited as a student, though) - 3 years later, rhyan is a 2 year starter (tipping the scales at about 270), an all-conference performer and heading to law school after graduating in 3 years...congrats, rhyan and all other monarchs who received awards on  tuesday night
Thanks for sharing this, narch.  Rhyan sounds like a great young man.  I believe his Dad's spirit will be with him wherever he goes.

     Ditto.....good story!!  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 26, 2007, 02:52:25 PM
monarch spring report (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=260778) from the fayetteville observer...interesting to see who coach sypult blames for losing this past season

they bring up some concern about hill returning to play football next year, which i had not previously heard...the monarchs need him if they're going to be successful

i did hear that the monarchs got frim committment from a VERY GOOD kicker...he has hit from 54 yards in game situations in high school and regularly hits from 55 and out in practice...he was offered some small d2 scholarship $$$ and was invited to walk-on at a d1aa program (he's a kicker...there aren't many d2's or d1aa's who are going to invest much in a kicker)...let's see if he can do it in the college game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 26, 2007, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: narch on April 26, 2007, 02:52:25 PM
monarch spring report (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=260778) from the fayetteville observer...interesting to see who coach sypult blames for losing this past season

they bring up some concern about hill returning to play football next year, which i had not previously heard...the monarchs need him if they're going to be successful

i did hear that the monarchs got frim committment from a VERY GOOD kicker...he has hit from 54 yards in game situations in high school and regularly hits from 55 and out in practice...he was offered some small d2 scholarship $$$ and was invited to walk-on at a d1aa program (he's a kicker...there aren't many d2's or d1aa's who are going to invest much in a kicker)...let's see if he can do it in the college game

     Not a knock on this kid. I wish him well but strong legs are a dime a dozen.  Strong legged kickers with their head screwed on right that are accurate aren't so common. :o Hitting from 54 is great but what kind of consistency does he have from closer in? I'll take a consistent kicker who hits from 40 in any day. If you hit from 54 in or even 50 consistently, most likely, you won't be kicking at the D3 level unless someone just missed the boat. There are exceptions but it just not the rule in D3.
     Hey, I hit a 54 yarder in college.......in practice.......off a tee.....back when the goal post were a half mile wide......with a 40 MPH wind at my back. Does that count?  ;D ;D
     On another note.....snappers and holders don't get enough credit either. I was blessed to have both in HS AND college. Not an easy task to perform consistently in game situations.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 26, 2007, 10:03:28 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on April 26, 2007, 03:56:35 PM
Hitting from 54 is great but what kind of consistency does he have from closer in? I'll take a consistent kicker who hits from 40 in any day. If you hit from 54 in or even 50 consistently, most likely, you won't be kicking at the D3 level unless someone just missed the boat. There are exceptions but it just not the rule in D3.
we'll see...i know the monarch coaches are excited, so it's good enough for me at this point
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 26, 2007, 10:22:17 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end

      You think so huh? Perhaps they are just smart enough to do a job where they don't have to crack their skull over and over and end up with brain damage or arthritis by the time they are 40.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on April 27, 2007, 05:42:32 AM
Yeah it's called soccer. This is a football board.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 27, 2007, 06:39:57 AM
Quote from: CaptainChris on April 27, 2007, 05:42:32 AM
Yeah it's called soccer. This is a football board.

     WOW... no love for the kickers..... All the lugheads don't seem to mind kickers when they hit the 40 yarder to win the game.  :o It's ok though...I understand the love/hate relationship. Been there, done that. For the record, I was not one of those pinko, new wave music listening, 95 pound bench pressing, futbol types.  ;D I was a straight on ala George Blanda / Mark Mosely type kicker that ate middle linebackers for lunch.  :D LOL.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end

It is a known fact that kickers are a different bread. They are either loved or hated (nothing inbetween) But think about this - a kicker has just as much to think about and concentrate on as anyone else on the team. He has to make sure plant foot is correct, body is in correct position before and after kick, hips aren't turning one way or the other incorrectly, leg speed, follow through, snap, hold, field conditions (field too wet, field too hard). Plus in the back of his mind he is worried about the rush and wondering if he will get taken out by an over zealous lineman and end up with broken leg, hyper extended knee, concussion and so on. And don't forget if he is the kick off guy, in most cases he is given the responsibility to be the safety net in case the other 10 guys don't do their job. But then he remembers he is only 150 to 175 lbs (soaken wet) and he is going to have to tackle a 180 to 220 lb running back that is already in full stride and moving like a freight train. If he makes the tackle or slows him down enough or knocks him out of bounds he is the hero. But if he gets run over and buried in the ground with a broken collar bone, or what ever else breaks, and the guys scores or the runner is the guy from Mt. Union and has after burners and leaves the kicker in the dust....then he becomes the team dog.

Unless you have been there and done it, give them a break. Protect your kicker and he will win games for you. Piss him off and you might get a foot where you don't want it. 

Just something for everyone to think about.

And by the way, I played center and truly wanted my son to follow in my footsteps and be able to have fun in the line where things can really get ugly and dirty and you have to be a real man to be there; but he is a kicker and I support him all the way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 01:05:21 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end

Just curious, did Methodist refer to Pat Larkin as "lame" and/or did Greensboro refer to Chris Palme as "lame".  I believe they were two of the best kickers in the conference during thier 4 year careers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end
It is a known fact that kickers are a different bread....
You're right, they are a different breed.  Everyone "kneads" a good kicker.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 27, 2007, 02:03:52 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 01:05:21 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end

Just curious, did Methodist refer to Pat Larkin as "lame" and/or did Greensboro refer to Chris Palme as "lame".  I believe they were two of the best kickers in the conference during thier 4 year careers.

     Hey kicker, you are probably wasting your breath. These guys slamming kickers probably play defense. They aren't smart enough to play O so certainly aren't smart enough to understand what you are saying.  ;D Worse yet, they are probably DB's. You know how THOSE guys are!! Always having to prove themselves.  ;D ;D
     Ok, before they get bent out of shape, I better splain that I am just kidding and having a little fun with them.  ;) We always had a little fun with the O vs D rivalry and poking jabs at each other but in the end we went to battle together as one. In college, I only kicked so you are right, kickers do get treated a little differently. I even had a teamate take a cheap shot at me in practice one day. I did play other positions in HS, and yes, even played D, so I understand.  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on April 27, 2007, 02:13:12 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

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It is a known fact that kickers are a different bread....
You're right, they are a different breed.  Everyone "kneads" a good kicker.  :)

Hasanova, another good one!!  +1k
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 27, 2007, 02:15:41 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end
It is a known fact that kickers are a different bread....
You're right, they are a different breed.  Everyone "kneads" a good kicker.  :)

     Hey Hasa.....that's pretty good.   :o

     I'd be willing to bet that the 1982 Tiger football team didn't treat Hiter Harris as an outsider. If my memory serves me, he won every single ODAC game with FG's. I know he was ODAC player of the year.  8) He was even one of them darn side winding soccer types.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 27, 2007, 02:21:12 PM
Quote from: roocru on April 27, 2007, 02:13:12 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end
It is a known fact that kickers are a different bread....
You're right, they are a different breed.  Everyone "kneads" a good kicker.  :)

Hasanova, another good one!!  +1k

     Hey roo, long time no see. How are things down in good ole Tejas?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end
It is a known fact that kickers are a different bread....
You're right, they are a different breed.  Everyone "kneads" a good kicker.  :)

Damn, you mean we have to know how to spell in order to post on these boards. If that is the case, then Coleman needs to add spell check ASAP.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 27, 2007, 02:51:47 PM
Fairy Funny. 

A few people are really defensive about kickers.

Deon Warrick hit it dead on.  I am a former DB.

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:56:44 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end
It is a known fact that kickers are a different bread....
You're right, they are a different breed.  Everyone "kneads" a good kicker.  :)

Damn, you mean we have to know how to spell in order to post on these boards. If that is the case, then Coleman needs to add spell check ASAP.
Nah, you don't have to know how to spell, but you do have to know we're just having a little good-natured fun.  :)   To paraphrase the old saying, "pass for show and "kick" for dough."  I'm truly with you - a competent kicker makes a good football team a great football team!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 03:43:04 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:56:44 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end
It is a known fact that kickers are a different bread....
You're right, they are a different breed.  Everyone "kneads" a good kicker.  :)

Damn, you mean we have to know how to spell in order to post on these boards. If that is the case, then Coleman needs to add spell check ASAP.
Nah, you don't have to know how to spell, but you do have to know we're just having a little good-natured fun.  :)   To paraphrase the old saying, "pass for show and "kick" for dough."  I'm truly with you - a competent kicker makes a good football team a great football team!

You are right, I did get a little too defensive. I will do better. I apoligize if I offended anyone. I see you guys picking at each other all the time and I should have known better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 27, 2007, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 03:43:04 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:56:44 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end
It is a known fact that kickers are a different bread....
You're right, they are a different breed.  Everyone "kneads" a good kicker.  :)

Damn, you mean we have to know how to spell in order to post on these boards. If that is the case, then Coleman needs to add spell check ASAP.
Nah, you don't have to know how to spell, but you do have to know we're just having a little good-natured fun.  :)   To paraphrase the old saying, "pass for show and "kick" for dough."  I'm truly with you - a competent kicker makes a good football team a great football team!

You are right, I did get a little too defensive. I will do better. I apoligize if I offended anyone. I see you guys picking at each other all the time and I should have known better.

     Kicker, you will have to work much harder to offend me.  :'( I dish it but I can take it too. I'm probably harder on myself than anyone else is.  :o  After many years as a teacher and drug/alchohol counselor, I have pretty thick skin. I sometimes forget that maybe everyone doesn't. Hanging on these boards is educational but also entertaining to me.  8)
     allsky7 is out of everyones hair until Monday. Have a good weekend all.  GO TIGERS!! Oops...wrong board.  :-[
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 27, 2007, 04:33:42 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 02:25:37 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end
It is a known fact that kickers are a different bread....
You're right, they are a different breed.  Everyone "kneads" a good kicker.  :)

Damn, you mean we have to know how to spell in order to post on these boards. If that is the case, then Coleman needs to add spell check ASAP.

Use Firefox 2.0. It has a spellcheck.

Yet another reason to dump Internet Exploder. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 27, 2007, 05:56:14 PM
kickerdad

Make sure your kicker doesn't take on a linebacker and up man thirty yrds from the action. One ACL and miniscus reconstruction later. The play made the bounty bowl incident with good ole Buddy Ryan look tame...and is still a scene I replay often.
The story has a happy ending as this kid became a all-conference kicker and pitcher and made ABCA all-Mid Atlantic  pitcher   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on April 28, 2007, 11:02:46 AM
I think that in many ways kickers and punters are overlooked because they can often affect outcomes of games in ways that do not always get seen by the normal fan. One important way is by field position, give me a kicker or punter who can dominate and control the field any day of the week. By  the way, look back at the play by plays from last season and see just how much of an impact that field position played in the outcomes of games. I was a kicker/punter at a D3 school who also played offensse and defense in high school.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on April 30, 2007, 12:51:07 AM
So get me up to speed, what is the discussion these days?  I am excited for the football season to get rolling, now that the NFL draft is over.  I think the NFL draft of all professional sports is probably the best timed draft.  It marks around the middle of the offseason.  I think it help builds up anticipation for the next season.  Not like the NBA or MLB. Not enough rest between the seasons.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2007, 01:00:31 AM
The posts are all still here -- you can get yourself up to speed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on April 30, 2007, 10:35:57 AM
So the discussion is records, stadiums and kickers. I thought it was much more then that.

GC Pride Schedule.


Sept. 8    @ UNC Pembroke (UNC Pembroke first home football game)                   
Sept. 15  @ Gallaudet University, Washington, DC                   
Sept. 22  @ Maryville College, TN
Sept. 29  Guilford College
Oct. 6  Christopher Newport University   
Oct. 13  Shenandoah University
Oct. 20  Averett University
Oct. 27  @ Ferrum College
Nov. 3  Methodist College
Nov. 10 North Carolina Wesleyan College

I would be happy with a 5-5 season.  I believe we will have most of the secondary back.  Which was best in the conference.  We return the spectaculiar freshman LB Mr. Crowder who racked up 25 tackles in one game. (I believe most by any person in d3football last season.)  We return a great DT in Mr. Wooten, who was also a freshman. I think the defense should be solid, and actually believe most of the defense is returning. It looks like right now we are weak at the RB position and we are losing a couple of WR. (I say weak, because Rod Herbin is a senior and we lose a couple WR due to graduation.)

Grimsley nice stadium, ample parking for tailgating;  only problem is we hardly fill the 10,000 seat stadium.  There is a plan to build a outdoor sports park over where alot of the sports teams practice currently.  I believe the plan has a 4,000-5,000 seat stadium.

Kickers.  I think kickers are important and don't talk bad about them at all.  Quick story when I was in high school( which wasn't as long ago, compared to ya'll) my freshman and sophmore year we had a kicker that could line up and kick it through the uprights at mid-field.  One day it was costume day during homecoming week and friday of the game, the kicker came in with a cast on his kicking leg.  Oh the coach was going nuts.  The kicker told him a few hours later he was fine. Kickers are so important.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on April 30, 2007, 11:38:49 AM
Quote from: Highlander on April 28, 2007, 11:02:46 AM
I think that in many ways kickers and punters are overlooked because they can often affect outcomes of games in ways that do not always get seen by the normal fan. One important way is by field position, give me a kicker or punter who can dominate and control the field any day of the week. By  the way, look back at the play by plays from last season and see just how much of an impact that field position played in the outcomes of games. I was a kicker/punter at a D3 school who also played offensse and defense in high school.

     Good points Highlander. If you were a punter/kicker for the Fighting Scots, then you are OK by me.  ;D I was too. Except I was like the 14th string punter!!  :o

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 30, 2007, 02:50:26 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on April 27, 2007, 05:56:14 PM
kickerdad

Make sure your kicker doesn't take on a linebacker and up man thirty yrds from the action. One ACL and miniscus reconstruction later. The play made the bounty bowl incident with good ole Buddy Ryan look tame...and is still a scene I replay often.
The story has a happy ending as this kid became a all-conference kicker and pitcher and made ABCA all-Mid Atlantic  pitcher   

I can relate - 6 knee operations - both ACL's replaced and zero miniscus. However I have plenty of arthrosis for everyone... only person I can be now is the weather guy.  I know 3 days before he does, when the weather is going to change.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on April 30, 2007, 05:16:09 PM
Talked to Huntingdon and LaGrange folks during the GSAC baseball tourney (Congrats to MC on hosting the second great tourney in 10 days and for the first title since 02 to claim the Prez Cup again) and they believe they will remain south region teams in 08 unless the petition to go Mideast for football so as to match up with the other schools in the conference.
So if they do, what south region team wants to still play them to fill out their sked? And if they don't, what happens when Huntingdon takes that title and an AQ?

Maryville travels to LaGrange and Centre then hosts Huntingdon before starting conf play in 07. Not sure how long its been since the Scots didnt play Sewanee or Rhodes in a season.

Not to kick a position while its down but kickers ... hmm. I've seen one linebacker/end sized kicker who had the distance and consistency to match but he's walking DI rather than taking any D3 offers. But with the proposed (or are they approved now) changes backing up the kick off line for next season, those guys may be showing who has leg and who doesn't on special teams this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 30, 2007, 05:46:59 PM
MOSH
Been out of country........ so how is your team doing?

What are your plans for work this summer. Male dancer?

PAPI
What is your location? VA?. I see where Atlantic Beach lost one of your hang outs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2007, 06:56:53 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on April 30, 2007, 05:16:09 PM
Talked to Huntingdon and LaGrange folks during the GSAC baseball tourney (Congrats to MC on hosting the second great tourney in 10 days and for the first title since 02 to claim the Prez Cup again) and they believe they will remain south region teams in 08 unless the petition to go Mideast for football so as to match up with the other schools in the conference.
So if they do, what south region team wants to still play them to fill out their sked? And if they don't, what happens when Huntingdon takes that title and an AQ?

There's no "Mideast" in football, just North, South, East and West.

Regardless of whether they are in the South or North or West, games against teams in Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia and West Virginia will always be regional for Huntingdon and LaGrange.

I think we already discussed this on another board?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on May 01, 2007, 09:19:27 AM
Abngr,

  The losses will drive you crazy!  The boys are 6-8 after losing the last two.  We have two more left and a slim possibility of making the postseason.  I did have a dancing job all lined up but I have pulling the hair out of my scalp (there goes the extra summer pay).   

Sidenote:  Former Greensboro College Player/ Coach Cpt. Gradeigh Lowe will be deploying to Iraq in a few weeks.  We have sent several players over there.  I know Averett has sent a few people over and Greensboro has sent a few too.  Have any other teams sent National Guard/ ROTC kids over?

Kickers have a fairy amount of feelings to!


Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on May 01, 2007, 11:46:17 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on April 27, 2007, 02:21:12 PM
Quote from: roocru on April 27, 2007, 02:13:12 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end
It is a known fact that kickers are a different bread....
You're right, they are a different breed.  Everyone "kneads" a good kicker.  :)



Hasanova, another good one!!  +1k

     Hey roo, long time no see. How are things down in good ole Tejas?

Allsky,

Things have been busy in Tejas!!  I just retired from the public school athletic business after 20 years as a coach and 15 as an athletic director.  I got an offer from a company that does web-based athletic management software (recruiting, scheduling, inventory and athletic training programs) for high schools and colleges.  I have moved back to my home in Bryan after spending three years as AD in Corpus Christi.  Between moving and starting the new job things have been a little hectic.  I have just enough time to keep up with the board but not enough to post a lot.  Oh well, so much for retirement !!   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on May 02, 2007, 07:46:58 AM
Quote from: roocru on May 01, 2007, 11:46:17 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on April 27, 2007, 02:21:12 PM
Quote from: roocru on April 27, 2007, 02:13:12 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2007, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 27, 2007, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 26, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
kickers are lame people.

the end
It is a known fact that kickers are a different bread....
You're right, they are a different breed.  Everyone "kneads" a good kicker.  :)



Hasanova, another good one!!  +1k

     Hey roo, long time no see. How are things down in good ole Tejas?

Allsky,

Things have been busy in Tejas!!  I just retired from the public school athletic business after 20 years as a coach and 15 as an athletic director.  I got an offer from a company that does web-based athletic management software (recruiting, scheduling, inventory and athletic training programs) for high schools and colleges.  I have moved back to my home in Bryan after spending three years as AD in Corpus Christi.  Between moving and starting the new job things have been a little hectic.  I have just enough time to keep up with the board but not enough to post a lot.  Oh well, so much for retirement !!   ;D

     I understand completely. My dad is "retired" and is as busy now as ever. Congrats on your so called retirement. Hopefully, you can find some time to relax and enjoy with all the busy.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on May 02, 2007, 01:05:09 PM
Did SU's Hayes get picked up by the Redskins?  I heard that today, but can't varify in any news source.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on May 02, 2007, 01:06:41 PM
abngr,

  I remember you talking about new bern awhile back.  Did you know chip williams? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 02, 2007, 02:52:15 PM
Hayes is not on this list:

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=25913

Neither is Jesse Wendt, who we were told was "signed" by the Redskins.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 02, 2007, 06:37:58 PM
MOSH
Yes I knew the long time coach at New Bern. He came in and turned the program into the eastern NC powerhouse it has been since 1997. I say 97 because that's when I went back to Havelock High. When I played in the 70's we smitted New Bern on a regular basis. Not now.

There was a unpleaseant situation last year when he retired from teaching and then attempted to retake the reins. He did not get the job.

A very dreary and "personality driven" decision.  I cannot in this forum say what the sordid details are since I recieved them 3rd hand.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on May 02, 2007, 09:18:15 PM
I figured you knew him.  He was the AD at the school in Greensboro where I work.  He just accepted the Head Job at Wakefield.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 03, 2007, 01:23:56 PM
mosh
Williams is good with kids. He goes to great lengths to ensure those kids that would be on the street are on the field. His coahes sometimes had to get arrange rides for the less advantaged. Game and practice shoes too! He had the knack for getting every athlete that was available.

He never runs the score up either unless you are stupid enough to do it to him.....

Havelock, New Bern, and West Craven high schools were brutal games since we were all 20 minutes away from each other.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on May 03, 2007, 05:20:52 PM
Anthony Hayes was not drafted by the Redskins but was invited to a rookie camp for Firday. It was in the front sports page of the Winchester Star on Tuesday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 04, 2007, 11:06:03 AM
IRT Hayes: Invited is better than being at home. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: fivemics on May 04, 2007, 01:04:05 PM
I just talked to my son at SU and he said Anthony Hayes is at the Redskins rookie camp today.  Not sure why his name wasn't listed but it is on the DIII web page in one of the recent stories.   A few teams were looking at Hayes and he did very well in the combines.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 04, 2007, 11:58:12 PM
There are 60 or so unsigned rookie free agents signing out. Haven't seen any complete listing of the names.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 09, 2007, 12:42:20 AM
BM 1 Papi. what is your POS.

Cold steel 6; this red river 6; adjust ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on May 09, 2007, 09:09:19 AM
Salisbury University Byron Westbrook in the Washington Redskins camp.

http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=3141

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on May 10, 2007, 02:13:03 PM
Whats up everyone, back on the board finally! I changed jobs form the moutains and took a job here in charlotte at south meck high school. When i changed, i lost my email so i had to get a new account. My old one is MCOL51, in case anyone was wondering. So narch tell me whats up in Spring Camp, hows the QB looking. I had a guy from Enka coming there, one of my lineman was going down there but i guess he decided not to when i left. He is going to western now from what i hear. But keep me up to date.
       Byrd how is everything man, you still playing for the guard, or you teaching somewhere now? let me know man. Its willis by the way, lol.
        We are looking for a D-Coordinator here for us. If any of you are interested, coach martin is looking to hire a young staff who knows football. I am the youngest, however, the oldest is only 30 years old. Anyone interested, it is a math job, or special ed job, or science. Let me know if any takers.  ill let him know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on May 11, 2007, 11:44:31 AM
mcftbl 51,

  I will send your coach my resume.  I think his info is on the nc coaches association.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on May 11, 2007, 12:22:12 PM
Mosh, alright yeah just send it to him. We have practice today so i will see him then and i will let him know that you are interested. That would be great man, we need one. I will tell you we run a 4-3 cover 2 look and sometimes we roll into a cover 3 we just dont show it. Against Butler, we will run straight cover 3 since they just throw the ball. Yeah man ill put in a good word for ya, i know how you played, and im sure you coach with that much heart as well. Look forward to it man.

Hey by the way, what do you teach?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mc55ol on May 11, 2007, 06:42:24 PM
MC_ftbl51 good to hear that your doing well. Right now im back with the Guard. I had been out to LA with the arena one team, but got hurt.  I had been working with the special ed kids at white oak, but took a break during football season. Im going back there to coach. I saw some of the spring practices this year. The guys look pretty good. Have some young talented guys on the team. Good luck on the upcomming season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on May 14, 2007, 10:49:46 AM
Mosh- Hey man, i talked to Coach Martin this morning before school. He said he got your resume and he liked everything, however, there is not a history job open right now. We need Math and science and special education. He said he would keep your resume though in case something came open in that area.

MC55- Yeah man, i coached football back at my old school at Enka. We didnt do that good this year, we went 3-8. The coach got fired and alot of things happened. I coached baseball though and had a blast man. We went 19-2 and won the conference. However, i guess when you do well there, you get asked not to come back. I was the youngest coach on the staff and i did not have tenure, so they asked me not to come back, saying they had hired another coach who wants to bring in some more coaches from georgia. So i left and came here, and they still have not hired anyone, nor are they going to. LOL i think its funny, noone wants to coach at Enka.
       I am in a good position man, as a coach i could not have asked for a better job to come to. My line averages 6'2 1/4'' and 285.4 pounds. My left tackle, is going to NC STATE to play hes 6'7'' 315 and runs a 5.0 So i am in a good position and loving it man. The kids are nice as can be and the community is involved here. So i am hoping to do good here, and make a name for myself, no better place to do ti than here in charlotte. Holler at me man!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on May 16, 2007, 03:33:52 PM
Salisbury's Byron Westbrook signed a free agent contract with the Washington Redskins as per the Salisbury University Athletic website.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on May 16, 2007, 04:32:09 PM
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Narch,

Do you have anything in your file for Averett or with the Cougar?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 16, 2007, 05:17:50 PM
That and other signings yesterday on the front page of D3football.com.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 17, 2007, 01:13:49 AM
For all you guys that got to run into by #97 at Guilford from 99-2003 and are friends: Brian got a "payin" job at Air Academy High at the Air Force Acadamy as the D-Line coach and D Coord for the JV. That's not bad for a Quaker with with a political science degree from a school that thought he hit a little too hard for their "taste".  ;) lol

So its sounds the Greensboro area players are getting into the trenches......that's good for players.

Sorry Pat  to break the Coleman mind meld thought process. I had to jump in.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 17, 2007, 07:59:54 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on May 17, 2007, 01:13:49 AM
For all you guys that got to run into by #97 at Guilford from 99-2003 and are friends: Brian got a "payin" job at Air Academy High at the Air Force Acadamy as the D-Line coach and D Coord for the JV. That's not bad for a Quaker with with a political science degree from a school that thought he hit a little too hard for their "taste".  ;) lol

So its sounds the Greensboro area players are getting into the trenches......that's good for players.

Sorry Pat  to break the Coleman mind meld thought process. I had to jump in.
abnrgr - Congratulations to Brian.  I've been to Colorado Springs and toured the AFA.  It's a beautiful place.  Some day I'll make it back and take another walk through the Garden of the Gods.  I hope the Air Academy HS teams have great seasons!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on May 17, 2007, 10:23:06 AM
Pat:

Thanks for the "Signing" updates.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on May 17, 2007, 10:35:51 AM
Congrats to westbrook for being signed with the redskins. I remember him when we played salisbury in 2005, he is a great athlete. Actually the one play that sticks out in my mind, is in the third quarter we were down by 2 TD'S. We called a trap play, and Mike hill went up the middle and cut outside with noone around him. Raced for like 50 yards away from everyone. We all thought it was a TD, then out of nowhere here comes westbrook and runs him down. He is a great athlete, but an even better person. He plays with heart, and i wish him the best in the pro's.

Does anyone on this board know if we are doing the spreads pick 'em thing this year? I enjoyed that last season, it gave me something to do while i was sitting here on my planning period i could compare stats and all that good stuff.

Narch, you've been quiet here lately is everything going good or re you just swamped with admittance letters and all thatright now? Seen any signs of good talent coming in? i heard they were IFFY about Mike Hill coming back to play his senior year. If they loose him, OH BOY, it could be a long one for the monarchs.

Also for anyone on here that knows Coach Sypult, he has had surgery on his achilles tendon. It tore at practice the other day. Keep in your prayers that he recovers fully and god speed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on May 17, 2007, 04:12:11 PM
Also for anyone on here that knows Coach Sypult, he has had surgery on his achilles tendon. It tore at practice the other day. Keep in your prayers that he recovers fully and god speed.
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Very painfull injury, will keep in our prayers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on May 17, 2007, 11:23:10 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on May 17, 2007, 10:35:51 AM
Does anyone on this board know if we are doing the spreads pick 'em thing this year? I enjoyed that last season, it gave me something to do while i was sitting here on my planning period i could compare stats and all that good stuff.

Yuppers, I'm planning on it again this year. Believe it or not, I even started retinkering with some of the rules about three weeks ago -- yes, I'm itching for September to arrive!

Overall, it'll be very familiar to last year's pick-em, though I'm addding some things that I hope will make everyone happy and keep the contest interesting.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on May 18, 2007, 10:11:05 AM
Yeah from what i hear it sounds pretty painful. I appreciate you keeping him in your prayers. Any news as to how those quakers are going to fair this season. Vogelbach should have a pretty darn good year this year. However with loosing Micah Rushing, They may be full passing and let him throw the rock. What you think?

Thats awesome Legacy. Hey if ya dont mind i would like a explanation of the rules for the contest again. I wasn't exactly sure how it worked last year, i was just picking the team i thought would win, but  forgot about the spread. Thanks a bunch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 19, 2007, 12:44:46 AM
Coach Sypult is a good man. He's intense. I wonder if he 'lost his foot" up some lineman's ass ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on May 20, 2007, 05:41:50 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on May 18, 2007, 10:11:05 AM
Thats awesome Legacy. Hey if ya dont mind i would like a explanation of the rules for the contest again. I wasn't exactly sure how it worked last year, i was just picking the team i thought would win, but  forgot about the spread. Thanks a bunch.

No sweat, but it'll be another two or three months before I get the new rules posted -- I want to make 100 percent sure I'm happy with them and that I think y'all will be happy with them. I'll put them up on this board as well as the pick-em board to make sure that everyone sees them. And I promise, these changes are definitely for the better!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on May 21, 2007, 07:38:32 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on May 19, 2007, 12:44:46 AM
Coach Sypult is a good man. He's intense. I wonder if he 'lost his foot" up some lineman's ass ;)

LOL! Well actually, he stays away from all the lineman for the most part. Least he did when i was there. He never really ever got onto us, simply because we had Coach Funderburk who did it enough. I hear he was doing a drill with the DB'S and it popped on him, so i know it was painful.

Legacy, Thanks man sounds good.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on May 21, 2007, 10:40:58 AM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on May 21, 2007, 07:38:32 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on May 19, 2007, 12:44:46 AM
Coach Sypult is a good man. He's intense. I wonder if he 'lost his foot" up some lineman's ass ;)

LOL! Well actually, he stays away from all the lineman for the most part. Least he did when i was there. He never really ever got onto us, simply because we had Coach Funderburk who did it enough. I hear he was doing a drill with the DB'S and it popped on him, so i know it was painful.

Legacy, Thanks man sounds good.

     Perhaps you should have called him Coach Thunderfoot?  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 21, 2007, 04:35:49 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on May 17, 2007, 11:23:10 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on May 17, 2007, 10:35:51 AM
Does anyone on this board know if we are doing the spreads pick 'em thing this year? I enjoyed that last season, it gave me something to do while i was sitting here on my planning period i could compare stats and all that good stuff.

Overall, it'll be very familiar to last year's pick-em, though I'm addding some things that I hope will make everyone happy and keep the contest interesting.  ;)

Are you writing $100 checks to those that win each week. haha.  I think that would make everyone happy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on May 21, 2007, 06:44:51 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 21, 2007, 04:35:49 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on May 17, 2007, 11:23:10 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on May 17, 2007, 10:35:51 AM
Does anyone on this board know if we are doing the spreads pick 'em thing this year? I enjoyed that last season, it gave me something to do while i was sitting here on my planning period i could compare stats and all that good stuff.

Overall, it'll be very familiar to last year's pick-em, though I'm addding some things that I hope will make everyone happy and keep the contest interesting.  ;)

Are you writing $100 checks to those that win each week. haha.  I think that would make everyone happy.

Hmmmm, if that's the expectation, I have a feeling that lots of people are going to be sorely disappointed. Would you settle for a weekly thumbs-up?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 22, 2007, 11:14:48 AM
I do have one suggestion for the pick'em.  If an indivdual doesn't know the mascots of each of the schools their picks shouldn't count.  I can remeber several times where a "picker" would call Greensboro the Spartans. Anyone who knows college football knows that "UNCG" does not have a football team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 22, 2007, 12:51:15 PM
Congrats to George Jones!


http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Football/fb051607.htm (http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Football/fb051607.htm)


Tomorrow the roster for Team USA will be announced. One of the assistant coaches is Berezowitz (did I spell that correctly?) so I imagine a few Whitewater boys will be playing. CNU will have Rob Rodriguez on the squad.

http://www.usafootball.com/press-box/press/index.php?&id=63 (http://www.usafootball.com/press-box/press/index.php?&id=63)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on May 23, 2007, 12:59:53 PM
"When I lived in Central Pennsylvania, a lot of people thought Joe Paterno was washed up.  He may or may not be, but he's still got his priorities straight.  Thought you all would enjoy seeing this, and good for Joe Pa!"

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=dw-paterno052207&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&expire=1

Found this on one of the other conference posts this morning by Josh Bowerman and was just as impressed as he. I had  the opportunity to go to Penn State on 3 occassions to take my son to Kicking Camp put on by the Penn State coaches and it is just a first class organization. The people at State College love Paterno to death and he is a first class act.
It was told that Joe walks from his home to the stadium on game days and on any given Sunday afternoon you can find him at Walmart just standing around talking to the the home folks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on May 23, 2007, 03:12:29 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on May 23, 2007, 12:59:53 PM
"When I lived in Central Pennsylvania, a lot of people thought Joe Paterno was washed up.  He may or may not be, but he's still got his priorities straight.  Thought you all would enjoy seeing this, and good for Joe Pa!"

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=dw-paterno052207&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&expire=1

Found this on one of the other conference posts this morning by Josh Bowerman and was just as impressed as he. I had  the opportunity to go to Penn State on 3 occassions to take my son to Kicking Camp put on by the Penn State coaches and it is just a first class organization. The people at State College love Paterno to death and he is a first class act.
It was told that Joe walks from his home to the stadium on game days and on any given Sunday afternoon you can find him at Walmart just standing around talking to the the home folks.

       JP is and always has been a class act. Not only could the coaching ranks use more like him, too bad we can't find 535 like him to send to Washington.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 23, 2007, 03:36:54 PM
Thanks for the link.  I appreciate Coach Paterno's actions.

I am curious as to how much trash (in total trash volume, e.g., # of dumpsters,) is removed by the players in 2007 versus 2006 numbers to see if there is an impact on the PSU fans.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on May 23, 2007, 04:20:05 PM
Ralph,

Don't know the answer to your question, but considering the fact that Beaver Stadium (Penn State) is the 2nd largest stadium in the country (next to Michigan) and will hold over 107,500 people, I would say there is a "Ton" of garbage after each game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on May 24, 2007, 09:59:27 AM
I agree, Coach Paterno is an outstanding guy. This speaks alot of his character and how he feels about the school he has worked at for all these years. It would have been very easy to just have the "let it go" attitude and act as if it never happened. I think this will make a difference in how people look at the Nitny Lions this season. Pa has ran a clean program up there for years, and you have never really heard of anything going on up there, but by gosh when it does it is handled well.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: @d3jason on May 24, 2007, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 23, 2007, 03:36:54 PM
Thanks for the link.  I appreciate Coach Paterno's actions.

I am curious as to how much trash (in total trash volume, e.g., # of dumpsters,) is removed by the players in 2007 versus 2006 numbers to see if there is an impact on the PSU fans.

I remember my Dad, while in graduate school at PSU, losing his keys in Beaver Stadium after a tough PSU loss to Texas A&M in 1979.  It only held a little bit over 80,000 at the time, but good luck finding them.

After attending PSU/Michigan game last season, if Joe Pa really wants to stick it too his players, have them clean up the parking areas.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on May 24, 2007, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on May 23, 2007, 04:20:05 PM
Ralph,

Don't know the answer to your question, but considering the fact that Beaver Stadium (Penn State) is the 2nd largest stadium in the country (next to Michigan) and will hold over 107,500 people, I would say there is a "Ton" of garbage after each game.


     When did Beaver become number two on the list? I thought Neyland and Michigan had been having a _ _ _ _ing contest over that honor for years.  Guess the architects in Knoxville will have to get busy and figure out how they can increase the size of Neyland. They have to be the biggest you know? ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on May 24, 2007, 11:45:16 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on May 24, 2007, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on May 23, 2007, 04:20:05 PM
Ralph,

Don't know the answer to your question, but considering the fact that Beaver Stadium (Penn State) is the 2nd largest stadium in the country (next to Michigan) and will hold over 107,500 people, I would say there is a "Ton" of garbage after each game.


     When did Beaver become number two on the list? I thought Neyland and Michigan had been having a _ _ _ _ing contest over that honor for years.  Guess the architects in Knoxville will have to get busy and figure out how they can increase the size of Neyland. They have to be the biggest you know? ;D

According to the Penn State web site and the grape vine, Tennessee is 3rd. Penn State holds officially a little more than 3000 more than Tennessee. Their web page says the largest crowd on record was against Nebraska in 2002 and that was 110,753, Michigans largest is 111,502.
That is a lot of trash to have to clean up by any standards.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on May 24, 2007, 01:08:56 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on May 24, 2007, 11:45:16 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on May 24, 2007, 10:47:21 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on May 23, 2007, 04:20:05 PM
Ralph,

Don't know the answer to your question, but considering the fact that Beaver Stadium (Penn State) is the 2nd largest stadium in the country (next to Michigan) and will hold over 107,500 people, I would say there is a "Ton" of garbage after each game.


     When did Beaver become number two on the list? I thought Neyland and Michigan had been having a _ _ _ _ing contest over that honor for years.  Guess the architects in Knoxville will have to get busy and figure out how they can increase the size of Neyland. They have to be the biggest you know? ;D

According to the Penn State web site and the grape vine, Tennessee is 3rd. Penn State holds officially a little more than 3000 more than Tennessee. Their web page says the largest crowd on record was against Nebraska in 2002 and that was 110,753, Michigans largest is 111,502.
That is a lot of trash to have to clean up by any standards.

     Thanks for the info.
     My dad and I were talking about the issue of the PSU players having to pick up the trash. We were joking (or not) that perhaps some of the upper class leaders of the team might privately tell the 15 that brought this on that they better have the stadium cleaned before Sunday AM when the rest of the team and Coach Pa arrived. If they didn't about 60 or 70  tired and sore guys might be doing a little butt whooping.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSWho2007 on May 25, 2007, 11:54:41 AM
 ::)

Just wondering..... Who is the new Christopher Newport Defensive Coordinator? It may be a huge blow for the Captains to lose David Legg to Richmond. I have heard that there has been three interviewed. Any news?

???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 25, 2007, 02:32:35 PM
HSWHO....I see you're getting in some early scouting. I haven't heard a word about coaching changes. I'm sure the CNU website will post something the day it happens.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSWho2007 on May 25, 2007, 06:04:02 PM
Absolutely, its always good to be informed  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on May 26, 2007, 01:32:10 AM
football.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 26, 2007, 11:54:21 PM
yes football!!........my Captain friend I cannot talk trash without the errascable Admiral Papi. He is the Captain killer ;)

BM1 Papi report via HATCHMOUNT SAT over

Bluto
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bomb8 on May 27, 2007, 10:50:17 AM
Who u guys think is goin to win the USA SOUTH this yr?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 27, 2007, 11:38:27 AM
Well Bomb............Methodist. That's what Narch told me
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bomb8 on May 27, 2007, 11:48:10 AM
Are you being serious Methodist doesnt have enough to win the conference as I recall CNU won it last yr so I see them repeating again this yr, actuall being the 1st team to win it outright with Nc W comin in 2nd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on May 29, 2007, 10:47:39 AM
The conference will be stacked this year. I have been keeping up with some of the recruiting this year. Here is what i see....

Methodist- Young, but talented overall. Parks will be back for QB, and they also have doleman and mularski. So the passing game will be there for the monarchs. The question is will Hill be back? that has been the question since he has been there, even when i was playing. Even if he doesn't return, the monarchs have some good backups to replace him, but it would be a blow. Defense will be strong as always for the monarchs. Lawrence will be an all-american this year. D-Line is going to be very strong with 3 year starter in Hayden. Also had a freshman who made an impact on the line last year, so they could be very dangerous. O-LINE will be good this year. Have some good, young, talented kids there. Parish will be the senior who leads, and Keffler was a freshman starting for Coach Funderburk at center. I will tell you one thing he doesnt start freshman usually on varsity unless they are extremely good and he sees something in them. Delapp played in 3 games and i played in 2 as a freshman, but this kid started for a few games, very good for the future.

Averett- Going to be strong, btu young. The one strong point will be their o-line. They have a kid going there from the high school im coaching at. He is 6'4" 285, and ran a 5.3 Great kid, top notch, is yes sir, no sir. So him along with the other 2 they have, they will be good. The Defense will be strong, as always for them.  Loosing the all-conference linebacker though does hurt a little bit.

NCWC- The bishops stormed onto the scene last year. They have gotten stronger each year. Next year those freshman that started the program will be juniors, and they have one mission and goal im sure, TO WIN! They have done that each year and have won under GINN, next year could be their year to succeed and win.

CNU- Good as always. They did loose alot of people, however, CNU reloads and has talent in every position every year.However with the acquisition of a new D-Coordinator, it could change things up. Im sure they will stick with the 4-3 look, but there could be some changes. For all of you CNU guys out there, what would the likelihood be of trying to get Woods to take the job in a few years. That young man would be great there. Just an idea!!

Here are my predictions for how teams will finish in the conference this year.
NCWC
AVERETT- Tie for 1st and share the conference championship
CNU- 2nd
MU- 3rd
MC- 4th
GC- 5th
FC- 6th

LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 29, 2007, 12:36:16 PM
No Bomber I am voting with the heart. I know the staff so I rout for them.

MC usually puts itself in position but loses ONE they should not and that puts them on the road needing help elsewhere......... or so the usual scenario goes for them.

Even with Rocketti it was a game away every year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 29, 2007, 04:49:47 PM
Not too bad MC51....

I hope differently! CNU has a lot of changes....but then again, I never imagined the year they had last year after losing half their starters incl those 3 LB beasts. So, we'll have to wait until the chin straps are in place. For the past 3 years we've lost an All-American and I think "Oh no, how are we going to fill that void".....then we get another all-American. I don't see one in the mix this year...but...

can't wait to buy my tickets.....gonna be another tough year...the trip to Texas is gonna real tough - they'll be looking for revenge at home!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on May 29, 2007, 05:08:59 PM
I'm interested to see who can compete with NCW and CNU this season. I see those two teams as shoo-in Nos. 1 & 2. I don't think Averett will be in the mix at the top....last year's team was stacked and they still had way too many games that were too close for comfort. After losing so many top players, the Cougars will be struggling

I'd like to see Maryville up there. It'll be impressive if they finish better than the .500 they were last season. I think they'll be third in the conference.

The middle to bottom is kind of up in the air, as usual. Those teams will have lots of youth, and while there probably won't be anyone else competing for a conference crown in 2007, this will be a good year to groom and hone some of these guys for the future.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bomb8 on May 30, 2007, 09:59:51 AM
Well I agree I think its going to be Nc and CNU for 1st place easily they have the most talent and every yr when you think "oh no cnu lost good players" more great players emerge and they have a good season. And after those two teams I see a dropoff wit Averett, and the rest of the conference. And CNU plays that tough shedule with Rowan and Mary Hardin Baylor, so they will definitely be ready for the conference as long as they stay healthy and humble. Watch out for the new additions to the CNU backfield and the play of the veteran offensive line, Todd Faison has a solid yr under his belt with a good weapon in that Burke guy to throw to they should be good. The addition of the new defensive cordinator should br interesting but with the experienced D-line, and secondary they should not face any problems.


             USA SOUTH
1. CNU
2. NCW
3. Averett
4. Methodist
5. Greensboro
6. Ferrum
7. Marryville
8. Shenadoah
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on May 30, 2007, 12:01:17 PM
After posting i went back and looked at the team rosters and saw who was leaving and all that good stuff from each team. I agree with Legacy on this one, averett will not be strong or have alot of leadership on their team. They do have a few seniors, however when going back and looking at player participation in each game, there are not a lot of guys on the roster that have seen action. COULD BE TROUBLE IN DANVILLE! matter of fact, my lineman that is going there, signs on friday, and he said they told him that they will be in a rebuild mode next year and hope to contend in 2 or 3 years. Thats not good when you got Mount Union on the board!

The new order of things:

NCWC
CNU- Tie for 1st

Methodist University

Maryville- who will be very strong next year with all the talent coming back

Greensboro- Torry Lowe could be the savior next year

Shennandoah

Ferrum

Averrett

Ferrum and Averrett supporters, no i am not hatin' on the panthers or the cougars. I am just lookin at what the book says, and it says you will be very young, maybe winning 3 or 4 games but not a contender for a championship.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on May 30, 2007, 01:31:58 PM
You will get no complaints from me. I was actually shocked to see someone picking Averett to content for the conference title. I will say this, they have a ton of Jr's who have seen action and have experience. Leadership will be the key as well as replacing the running back and some key defensive players. I am hoping for a 6-4 or 7-3 season. The good thing is we play NCWC, Methodist, CNU, & Shenandoah at home. Not sure where the W&L game will be. Finally, we will see what frame of mind these young guys will be in after they play the Mount, at the Mount. Last year the team came away feeling good about themselves. We will just have to see how it all plays out. Strange things happen in a 11 week time frame.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 30, 2007, 02:42:10 PM
Quote from: Bomb8 on May 30, 2007, 09:59:51 AM
Well I agree I think its going to be Nc and CNU for 1st place easily they have the most talent and every yr when you think "oh no cnu lost good players" more great players emerge and they have a good season. And after those two teams I see a dropoff wit Averett, and the rest of the conference. And CNU plays that tough shedule with Rowan and Mary Hardin Baylor, so they will definitely be ready for the conference as long as they stay healthy and humble. Watch out for the new additions to the CNU backfield and the play of the veteran offensive line, Todd Faison has a solid yr under his belt with a good weapon in that Burke guy to throw to they should be good. The addition of the new defensive cordinator should br interesting but with the experienced D-line, and secondary they should not face any problems.
             

I agree.....this year should be good. Especially since that dud of a qb Hudson Bryant is gone!  ;) :D ;) ;D ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 30, 2007, 06:01:44 PM
I take it CNU85 was a fan of Hudson Bryant. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 30, 2007, 09:34:03 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on May 30, 2007, 06:01:44 PM
I take it CNU85 was a fan of Hudson Bryant. :)

actually i was....just "tossing" a few Bombs to #8.

also......for the Texas lurker......

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-newcnucoach,0,7691941.story?coll=dp-sports-local (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-newcnucoach,0,7691941.story?coll=dp-sports-local)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 31, 2007, 11:56:20 AM
With everyone posting preseason picks I will throw out mine.

Averett- Worst case 4-6.  Best Case 7-3.  Expected 6-4.

Averett may be a young team but they were good last year and have improved every year. The team could be tested early having 4 away (W&L could be home not sure) games early at places where teams have been playing well lately.  The young team could go 1-3 at best 2-2.  Averett was a different team on the road last year and without the senior leadership they could lose those close games they won.

CNU- Worst Case 5-5.  Best Case 8-2.  Expected 7-3

This might be the beginning of the end for CNU football.  Old Dominion is going to have football team.  Although not this season, but recruiting could actually be tough the next couple of years.  They lost 9 seniors.  Many thought last year they weren't going to be great.  This is CNU football when isn't CNU at the top.  Haven't seen a schedule, so predictions are somewhat blind.  The two losses they had last season are coming to POMOCO.  Not an easy place to play.

Ferrum- Worst case 2-8.  Best Case 5-5.  Expected 3-7.

What happened to Ferrum last year.  They showed flashes of good and flashes of just plain bad.  The first two games should show where they stand for the rest of the season.  Average to below average teams.  They graduate quite a few players from a team that went 2-7.  They get CNU and Averett at home this year.  Could be good wins if they play like they did at home like they have done in past years.  I wouldn't bet on it though.

Greensboro Worst Case 3-7  Best Case 6-4  Expected 5-5.

The pass defense was top in the conference.  4 of the top 10 tacklers were freshman or sophmore.  The ROY on defense is coming back.  It looks like most of the defense is coming back.  Biggest issue will be the offense and TO's which seems to have plagued this team for years.  Big parts of the O-Line will be back and of course All-Athlete Torrey Lowe.  Plus a new offensive coach.  Worked with the spread offense at NC A&T(check website for article.) Not expecting great things but 5-5 will be best in program history.

Maryville Worst Case 3-7  Best Case 6-4.  Expected 5-5

Maryville had an up and down season.  They were a very good or a very lucky 5-5 team.  Won some close games last year. They are going to need some of that luck this year.  Schedule plays in thier favor early on.  If they get enough momentum going they could finish above 5-5.  Concern is the defense it was ok, but if they want to finish at the top they are going to have to do better in the redzone and get more picks.  They are going to have to do it without Colby Townsend. Traveling could wear them down.  For thier sake they better hope it doesn't.

Methodist Worst case 2-8  Best Case 6-4 Expected 4-6.

Methodist showed how important it was to have a great QB by not having one.  It was the first year without Chris Roncketti.  They are going to have to be a more consistent team if they want to return to thier greatness.  They lost some close games last year.  The offense just needs to be better.  They were a young team last year and still finished 4-6.  The experience could boost them back near the top.

NCWC Worst Case 3-7  Best Case 7-3  Expected 4-6.

NCWC lost some games last year they probably shouldn't have based on the way they played last year.  They have to travel to MU (plays well at home)  Plus go to CNU and AU never easy places to play.  They are going to Wesley and bringing in Wiedner who was 7-4.  Not easy games.  Offense was great last year and they have to bank on that.

SU Worst case 0-10  Best Case 3-7.  Expected 2-8.

For a team that only scored 88 points last year.  No one can expect much out of them.  They have to travel to the top two teams from the conferece last year.  Road won't be an easy one for them.  Haven't seen a schedule yet but I don't think it really matters.  SU needs to get themselves on the right foot.  They were the 2003 and 2004 Co-champs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on May 31, 2007, 01:32:51 PM
So let me get this right what you are saying Pridesports guy. You are basically saying that the conference will be below average and not like it has been in years past. I mean with CNU being the only team you pick to have a winning record at 7-3, and the rest not above 5 wins. That means people must think the conference is getting slack. I personally do not see that happening, but hey who knows.

     One thing though, what leaves you to believe that NCWC will be last in the conference? They basically have everyone back to be seniors and that team did play well last year. They gave some of the big ones a run for their money. I feel as though that experience will be enough to carry the team on their backs, which is what a senior is supposed to do anyways. So i was just wondering!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on May 31, 2007, 02:01:55 PM
ok, this might be a little too early to try and figure out but i wanted to look at who the offensive player of the year would be this year. I know Townsend won it last year and i think he might win it next year as well. I compared his stats last year with Ronketti's stats his senior year and here is what i found out:
                     EFFIC         COMP-ATT-INT       %         TD              YARDS
Townsend-   148.17         140-  251-  5       55.8       17               2212

Ronketti-       154.23         141-   240- 4      58.7       15                2234


Now, townsend was a junior last year, and put up spectacular numbers, Rocket put up good numbers too, but his senior year. Unless townsend just absolutley doesnt give a s@$% next year, then they are going to be nasty. Bush and townsend could compete for offensive player of the year next year.

Therefore, i know defense will be a question, but not a big one. They have 3 really good d-lineman, and if it is the same linebacking crew that were freshman when we played them 3 years ago, then they will be seniors, and they were not too shabby. This year could be their year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 31, 2007, 02:09:28 PM
I am not too sure where you think It will be below average.  If the records are close it might mean that. Or it could mean the league will be more competitive. based on my expected records there are 4 teams at or above .500 just like last season.  There were 3 teams with 7 or more losses last season and I am only expecting 2 teams.  I don't know where you think I mean below average.

I never said that NCWC was going to finish last. Even worse case.

NCWC could easily lose thier first 4 games of the season.  Wesley and Widner are good teams.  USASouth didn't fair well against ODAC (2-6 last year) schools and they play an Emory and Henry team which they lost to last year.  They play an always tough team at home MU and lost a close game to Maryville and play them right after that.  Then they travel to AU who has been great at home. 6 tough games to start the season.

Just because you have just about everybody back doesn't mean anything. In the USASouth you can go from first to last in one year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 31, 2007, 04:10:03 PM
BBALL -

CNU's non conf schedule....

Rowan
@ Mary Hardin Baylor
Salisbury

I think NCW will be better than you think. I don't agree that ODU will cause the "begining of the end" for CNU. That would mean ODU is offering scholarships to a sufficient quantity of  d3 level players that were considering playing for CNU. If that was the case, then ODU would not be competitive - ever.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 31, 2007, 04:44:01 PM
Ok so same as last year, because on the website it says 2006.

No one thought Ferrum was going to be bad.

No one thought SU was going to be that bad after they won the conference.

I didn't say will be I said "could be"

What about those Mount Union guys for football or those mid-west guys for basketball.  Alot of them could go d1 or d2.  Not big time but small time like ODU.  What you could hope for is those new "d1" transfers in a couple of years from ODU. (I believe another posters made the comment about ODU during this past season.)

Another thing about NCWC college, when was the last time a NC team won the conference out right. NEVER.  NCWC, history just isn't in your favor. 

More colleges in NC.  There are now going to be more football schools in the Norfolk area.

Recently, did a school near Methodist add football to their sport programs?  I don't know but I think there was.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on May 31, 2007, 05:38:18 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 31, 2007, 02:09:28 PM
Just because you have just about everybody back doesn't mean anything.

I disagree. This is usually huge for a team, especially a team like NCW that was very strong last year.

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 31, 2007, 02:09:28 PM
In the USASouth you can go from first to last in one year.

Yup, they sure can, but it's only happened once. Averett won't be all that great this year, but I don't think they'll be last.

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 31, 2007, 04:44:01 PM
Another thing about NCWC college, when was the last time a NC team won the conference out right. NEVER.  NCWC, history just isn't in your favor. 

Nope, no NC team has ever won the conference outright. For that matter, no Va. team has ever won it outright, either. Why is "history" even an issue? It's hardly a sticking point when trying to size up the teams for 2007. Let's measure the teams for what's they're showing on the field, not for what six whole years of USA South history indicates.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on May 31, 2007, 06:48:45 PM
Can't tell mych from the shorts workouts but the qb race at maryville is leaning toward Lucas Wall (soph. William Blount HS, maryville TN) He's not quite as mobile as Price but he has much better vision and looked a lot more efficient with the ball.
So if that pans out thats an offense returning 9 of 11 starters and I think 18 of 22 on two-deep.

Defense is the question mark but apparently Brad Walker (transfer from Lenoir Rhyne) is working at safety since the backfield is so talented already and doing good things. Linebackers are the question mark, they just dont have a lot of game experience. Despite whats been posted, Colby Townsend was hurt much of last year resulting in a d-line (growing trial by fire against CNU and Averett) that may actually be the strength of the defense this fall.

If they don't go at least 6-4 (4-3) then it will be from a meltdown at linebacker or quarterback.

BTW If you haven't heard MC is playing Birmingham Southern at Legion Field in a preseason scrimmage.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 31, 2007, 10:50:31 PM
WCLegacy there were a few years that were lost back there that didn't have conference records.  I thought maybe CNU or Ferrum won it outright at one point.  I know a NC school never won it.  (I found out that you were right.  Couldn't find the history page up top on USASouth website before.)

It is still not in NCWC favor only one team from NC has ever finished tied for first and that was Methodist last year. I mean the odds are only slightly in VA's favor. There has always been at least 3 NC teams in the conference.

I know that many people feel and I even think so to a certain extent that having most of your players back is helpful, but there has been plenty of cases where it hasn't happened.  USASouth it has happened. NCWC was very strong on offense.

Teams can go from first to second to last as well (FC)  Teams have gone from last to first in one year to (FC)  The point is though the past two years a team has fallen from the top to the bottom or near it.  I don't think CNU or AU is on anybodies mind to do so.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on May 31, 2007, 11:27:13 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 31, 2007, 10:50:31 PM
Teams can go from first to second to last as well (FC)  Teams have gone from last to first in one year to (FC)  The point is though the past two years a team has fallen from the top to the bottom or near it.  I don't think CNU or AU is on anybodies mind to do so.

For starters, Ferrum wasn't last in the conference, not last year...not any year. Believe me, I know that they weren't at all hot last year after sharing in the conference title the year before, but they still weren't last. Arguably, one could even point out that they were fifth....tied with Methodist and Greensboro.  ;D  Shenandoah was last in the USA South this past season. And, sadly, SU was also last in 2005, right after the team was co-champ in '04 and '03. They're the only USA South team to have fallen from top to bottom.

Also, I just don't see the relevance of saying that only one NC school has won the conference. Until two years ago, Ferrum had never won the conference. And until last year, Averett had never won the conference. The part of the USA South history that I will promote is that the top schools are very organic. Sure, CNU is always up there, but look at the fact that there have been a total of five different co-champs in the past three years.

This conference has seen more teams named conference champs recently than most any other conference in the nation. Sure, "only" one of them was from NC. But Wesleyan has only played three seasons so far. Do you really expect them to have won a title so far? CNU and UMHB are just about the only teams that have been good since the moment they walked onto the field.

Where was Averett in its third season? (2-7)
What about Shenandoah? (5-5)

North Carolina will get its time in the conference spotlight. I suppose I don't see this as a state vs. state rivalry as much as you do.

And when has a conference team not had at least the same success it did the prior year when it returned all, or almost all, of its prime players? I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if there's a decent example or two floating out there.

And for the record, a Tennessee team has never won the conference either, though I'm not going to count Maryville out of the running.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 01, 2007, 09:22:46 AM
Pride Sports Guy,

  I use to hit with the noggin but I remeber being 5-5 a few times.

Up Down
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on June 01, 2007, 09:22:56 AM
Everyone is right there has not been a conference champion in the history of the conference. The conference is always stacked with teams that can play and play well against other teams in the conference.
    I dont know how others feel about this, but i think if it happens again, i think they need to come up with one more game to see who the champion really is. Granit, this is probably like the BCS however i think there should be one team to win it. In 2005 when we split the conference with Ferrum, they had beaten us on a friday night earlier in the year. When we got through with the season they lost to CNU. whom we beat. Now end of the year rolls around you cant say they were better than us but we werent better than them either. Thats where an extra game would come into play. I dont know, maybe some dont agree, i was just thinking out loud so to speak.
    BBALLGUY- What i mean by that was according to your records for everyone it looks as if you are expecting failure except from CNU. I dont want to even think about records because you know for yourself, weird things happen during the season. Look at us in 2005, we had never beaten CNU, we barely got by. SU we never beat, destroyed them. Last year look at NCWC, a 3rd year team. Teams arent supposed to finish that good, that quickly.
    I also differ with your opinion that having kids back does nto mean you will win. That works so well. You knwo you have kids who know the system, know what isexpected of them, and know what type of leadership qualities to posess. I think that is huge. Even in High school right now that is huge.

Any word from NARCH i havent seen him post in a while.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on June 01, 2007, 09:26:12 AM
Anyone know how to get karma, i dont know if thats a good thing or not. I am the only one with 0, LOL, i feel lonely.

Mosh im sorry you didnt get the job here man, i wish you were a math teacher. We really need a D-C. We have a passing tournament at University of South Carolina tommorow. We are runnign a 4-3 cover 2 look, but rolling into 3 sometimes. But us not having a D-C has taken time away from us teaching the kids, we are just relying on them to know it from last year until we find the right person.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 01, 2007, 10:13:03 AM
WC-

I did say "second to last" for Ferrum.

mosher-

We have finished 5-5.  Never said we haven't but, it still will be a program best. I want at leat that this season.

MC_ftbl-

I will give you some karma.  Karma is good. I just

About having most of your players back.  I agree with all of you like I said, but to say that just because they will have most of their players back they will be a good team, I can't agree with.  CNU lost most of their team and still was at the top.  There was an article in SI a few years ago about teams that kept the same team together with few changes and they actually did worse.

I never rely on that to say the team will be good.  I had a a family friend, who happens to be a basketball coach tell me one time.  "We had one great player and 4 over-achievers." The point is you never know what you are going to get year in and year out.  Even if you have everyone back.

I just don't think coaches should rely on that.  Every player deserves a shot to show what they can do.  Go read a book my Morgan Wotten the greatest high school basketball coach of all time. He will tell you the same thing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on June 01, 2007, 10:54:02 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 01, 2007, 10:13:03 AM
WC-
I did say "second to last" for Ferrum.

Fair enough. I had read your post that said "Teams can go from first to second to last as well..." as saying that they can go from first, then to second, then to last over the course of three years. My bad.

However, you did also say that teams "have gone from last to first in one year to (FC)." That's also part of the reason I pointed out that Ferrum has never been last.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 01, 2007, 11:02:47 AM
WC-

Now I remeber why I said "last" for Ferrum.  They actually did.  Greensboro went 2-8 one year in 2004. Ferrum finished 4-6.  However the one conference game was Greensboro, but Greensboro beat the conference winner SU that year. The standings show FC in last place.  That is the tiebreaker apparently

Conference Standings
Through games of Jan 13, 2005



                          Overall   Points
  Team                    W  L  T  For Opp   Pct
  ----                    -  -  -  --- ---   ---
  Christopher Newport.    9  3  0  337 183  .750
  Shenandoah..........    7  4  0  243 245  .636
  Methodist...........    7  3  0  256 203  .700
  N.C. Wesleyan.......    4  4  0  142 184  .500
  Averett.............    6  4  0  317 227  .600
  Greensboro College..    2  8  0  150 261  .200
  Ferrum..............    4  6  0  276 230  .400

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on June 01, 2007, 11:30:16 AM
Actually, I think the official tiebreaker that the NCAA uses in all instances is the head-to-head -- and I couldn't find where the standings you have came from.

Yeah, that was a crummy year, but because Ferrum beat the other 1-5 conference team and had a better overall/in-region record, I wasn't looking at them as the dead last team. But yes, there was a pretty cozy spot for them there toward the bottom.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 01, 2007, 11:49:38 AM
Got the standings right off the USASouth website.  What I do know is that for basketball is that GC and AU finished tied for 1st, but AU got the 1st round bye because they beat the higher ranked team.  (I believe it was FC. Greensboro split with them and AU beat them twice.)  I think that is how they played it out in the USASouth.  Greensboro beat SU that year even though FC and GC both had one win in the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on June 01, 2007, 11:59:35 AM
I had checked the USA South's Web site, but couldn't find those listing you had. Maybe I need new glasses. I did just find these -- which show Gboro at the very bottom -- in the official record book:

Conference Standings
Team Conf. Pct. All Pct.
Shenandoah 5-1 .833 7-4 .636
Chris. Newport 5-1 .833 9-3 .750
Methodist 4-2 .667 7-3 .700
N.C. Wesleyan 3-3 .500 4-4 .500
Averett 2-4 .333 6-4 .600
Ferrum 1-5 .167 4-6 .400
Greensboro 1-5 .167 2-8 .500

http://www.usasouth.net/PDFs/DixieRecordBook2002-03final.pdf

I fully admit that I have no idea how basketball makes its decisions, but in the AU-GC example you mentioned, the teams split when facing each other. The head-to-head was 1-1, so they couldn't use that as a measuring stick. If their records had been the same and GC had gone 2-0 against AU, I suspect GC would've gone to the playoffs. But since the record was split, they had to go to the next measuring item.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 01, 2007, 01:42:15 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on June 01, 2007, 11:30:16 AM
Actually, I think the official tiebreaker that the NCAA uses in all instances is the head-to-head -- and I couldn't find where the standings you have came from.

The NCAA doesn't break any tie, and especially not for last place. The conference breaks ties however it wants.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 01, 2007, 02:30:34 PM
Where is Narch?  He can fill everyone in on how it works.

Here is the link I found that shows FC behind GC

http://www.usasouth.net/statistics/M-foot/m-foot_stats.htm

Click on 2004.  Then Standings and Schedules.  It will be right there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 01, 2007, 02:33:02 PM
BBallguy - you're gonna tick off Coleman if you keep going to the USA South website to find the standings.....try looking on that obscure website d3football.com

I think somewhere in there they might have the standings for all the years in the history of the conference. Not sure, though.  :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 01, 2007, 02:46:20 PM
CNU85-

Oh yes. Will do. :-[ I went to the USASouth site only because hopefully they had it based on the tiebreaker. (If there was/is one.)  I don't want to come across one that just lists them in alphabetical order.  If Pat Coleman and staff know every tiebreaker of every conference for every sport, then Pat must truly be the d3 sport "tutelary"  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 01, 2007, 02:53:45 PM
1. CNU
2 .NC Wes
3 .Methodist
3 .Greensboro
3 .Maryville
3. Averett
3. Ferrum
3. Shenadoah

To close to call man!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 01, 2007, 03:22:31 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 01, 2007, 02:46:20 PM
CNU85-

Oh yes. Will do. :-[ I went to the USASouth site only because hopefully they had it based on the tiebreaker. (If there was/is one.)  I don't want to come across one that just lists them in alphabetical order.  If Pat Coleman and staff know every tiebreaker of every conference for every sport, then Pat must truly be the d3 sport "tutelary"  ;D

We may know them, but programming them is not on my radar.

I wouldn't assume that all conference sites have all ties broken according to their own tiebreaking procedures.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on June 01, 2007, 07:37:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 01, 2007, 01:42:15 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on June 01, 2007, 11:30:16 AM
Actually, I think the official tiebreaker that the NCAA uses in all instances is the head-to-head -- and I couldn't find where the standings you have came from.

The NCAA doesn't break any tie, and especially not for last place. The conference breaks ties however it wants.

Point taken, but I was looking at it in regards to if the NCAA would rank all the teams in a region, that's what I thought was a top factor. Sure, we're debating last place (well off the NCAA's radar).... I would say this is a topic that could/should just fade away, but I'm happy to see some life on the board!

And I was unsure of the "conference standings" that BBallGuy posted because it only listed overall records. It was a conference ranking without conference results? Hmmmm, I'm wondering if that was something that was just slapped on the USAC site without much thought.

That said, even the rankings I posted straight from the USA South record book showed"
Greensboro 1-5 .167 2-8 .500
What's wrong with that picture? A 2-8 record doesn't equal .500. Could be a typo...could be the same laxidasical approach to record keeping.

We need more discussions about last place...   :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 01, 2007, 08:11:10 PM
Moving on actually.  I haven't created a formula in a while so I figured I would come up with one.  I call it the D3 Football State Recruiting Index. It is an index that points out how easy it is for a d3 school in the state to recruit players from thier state. Take a look and see what you think.  (This doesn't mean that state is better then the next all it means is how well a d3 school can recruit from thier state.)

4913   WI
1672   VT
1439.3   CA
1058.4   MN
1018.5   OH
905.3   NY
869   IL
810   ME
751.5   NJ
656.2   MA
546.5   TX
502   PA
347   MI
307.8   WA
300.7   IA
269.2   VA
232.8   MD
201.6   CT
164.6   IN
145   OR
73.5   MS
70.6   TN
69.1   MO
59.5         NC
54   AL
53.5         KY
41.7         CO
33.3         NH
32.4         GA
27.3         LA
22.3         RI
19.5   DE
19.5   DC
15.5         WV
0   AZ
0   AR
0   FL
0   HI
0   ID
0   KS
0   MT
0   NE
0   NV
0   NM
0   ND
0   OK
0   SC
0   SD
0   UT
0   WY
0   AK

Formula uses # of High Schools # of Football Colleges in that state and the # of d3 colleges in that state.

SC for example doesn't have any d3football schools in their state, hence why the # is zero.

VT for example has 88 high schools and 2 football colleges both of which are d3 schools hence why they are so high on the list.  They can recruit any player they want from thier state to play d3football.

I think this is much better then my power ranking formula.

The formula isn't intended for this but you can see some of the top d3 football schools are at the top.

For the purposes of USASouth you can see why VA does better every year then NC. The d3 talent pool is much richer. (Again not really used for that purpose.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 02, 2007, 01:51:45 AM
Pride rates a survellence package and should be watched. He is alot smarter than he has been letting on....... :) Looks like a Langley type
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 02, 2007, 10:01:34 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 02, 2007, 01:51:45 AM
Pride rates a survellence package and should be watched. He is alot smarter than he has been letting on....... :) Looks like a Langley type
Well, there is still the "then/than" issue.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 02, 2007, 10:07:43 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 02, 2007, 01:51:45 AM
Pride rates a survellence package and should be watched. He is alot smarter than he has been letting on....... :) Looks like a Langley type

Oh I don't know about all that.  I am not good with words and I am often making people mad. (Just look at the upper left hand corner.)  However I am good with numbers. When I was in high school while taking trigomentry instead of using COS and SIN and what not I used LOG's to find the legnth of curved edge of a circle.  My formula was off from the real formula by about .0001 and some change. (Ok you are all geeked out now.)  That is one of many stories about some of things I have done.

abnrgr- Don't worry I am not working on a survellence package.  Doing that strictly goes against what I believe.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 02, 2007, 10:10:42 AM
Quote from: hasanova on June 02, 2007, 10:01:34 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 02, 2007, 01:51:45 AM
Pride rates a survellence package and should be watched. He is alot smarter than he has been letting on....... :) Looks like a Langley type
Well, there is still the "then/than" issue.  :)

I believe that issue does come with the way I talk.

When I talk I know I say "rather then"  instead of saying "rather than" I still haven't been able to break it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 02, 2007, 12:09:46 PM
May I should go to the ODAC site to ask this question, but hopefully there may be some more Averett fans on here that haven't spoke up lately......

I was looking at Averetts web site today and saw the 2007 football schedule and it has Averett playing Washington & Lee University in Salem. This only gives Averett 4 home games this year. Does anyone have any insite as to what is up with them playing in Salem also does anyone know if this is a day or night game. I have heard rumors that it may be a night game, but on Averetts schedule it has TBA.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 02, 2007, 08:46:25 PM
kickerdad....send an email to the AD. You should get a quick response
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 02, 2007, 08:48:29 PM
what is survellence?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 03, 2007, 01:48:38 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 02, 2007, 08:48:29 PM
what is survellence?

i don't know ask Mr. Abnrgr.  I assumed it was spelled right...because I am not good with words. ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 03, 2007, 10:58:17 AM
CNU

It was late at night so it is spelled Surveillance. This is correct

What I mean we should watch him as in follow and get video, audio, sat imagery.

It's what done to people who may pose a threat.  :) ;). I am of course "funning" as they say in the eastern part of NC.

Its an off handed compliment for good research
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 03, 2007, 12:53:37 PM
ha...i bet if you turned the hubble towards Bballguy - it would start to malfunction. even the CIA would walk away shaking their heads!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 03, 2007, 01:31:02 PM
some more info on the new CNU D-coord.

http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Football/fb053007.htm (http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Football/fb053007.htm)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 03, 2007, 02:55:36 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 03, 2007, 12:53:37 PM
ha...i bet if you turned the hubble towards Bballguy - it would start to malfunction. even the CIA would walk away shaking their heads!!

Now what is that supposed to mean?  haha.

The only thing I can think of is...well I do have a screw in my wrist from my high school football days.  The metal might cuz a malfunction.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 03, 2007, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 02, 2007, 12:09:46 PM
May I should go to the ODAC site to ask this question, but hopefully there may be some more Averett fans on here that haven't spoke up lately......

I was looking at Averetts web site today and saw the 2007 football schedule and it has Averett playing Washington & Lee University in Salem. This only gives Averett 4 home games this year. Does anyone have any insite as to what is up with them playing in Salem also does anyone know if this is a day or night game. I have heard rumors that it may be a night game, but on Averetts schedule it has TBA.

I keep looking at Averett's site and I only see nine games, nothing with W&L.

http://www.averett.edu/football/schedule.htm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on June 03, 2007, 08:13:01 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 03, 2007, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 02, 2007, 12:09:46 PM
May I should go to the ODAC site to ask this question, but hopefully there may be some more Averett fans on here that haven't spoke up lately......

I was looking at Averetts web site today and saw the 2007 football schedule and it has Averett playing Washington & Lee University in Salem. This only gives Averett 4 home games this year. Does anyone have any insite as to what is up with them playing in Salem also does anyone know if this is a day or night game. I have heard rumors that it may be a night game, but on Averetts schedule it has TBA.

I keep looking at Averett's site and I only see nine games, nothing with W&L.

http://www.averett.edu/football/schedule.htm

The Averett site has schedules in two places, for some reason. Kickerdad was probably looking at this one, which lists W&L on Sept. 22:

http://www.averett.edu/statistics/schedules/footsched.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 03, 2007, 08:53:53 PM
Thanks. I tried a lot of possibilities, including going to the athletics front page and the SCHOOL's front page to see if perhaps the web site structure had changed, but I didn't find that page.

Talk about inefficient.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 03, 2007, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 03, 2007, 08:53:53 PM
Thanks. I tried a lot of possibilities, including going to the athletics front page and the SCHOOL's front page to see if perhaps the web site structure had changed, but I didn't find that page.

Talk about inefficient.

Pat, I agree. I have been told that the entire site is being upgraded but no one will say when that button is going to be pushed. I spoke to one of the assistants because I had seen where Guilford and Greensboro were going to be at night and the schedule you saw had 1:00 PM. He said the games were going to be at night but the schedule on the football page wouldn't be updated until the new site was brought up. The schedule I am looking at is the same one Legacy is seeing. That is under the Athletics Home page under the football tab in the drop down. The person I spoke to indicated the details with W&L hadn't been worked out. That conversation was over 30 days ago. The Salem site was only put on the web site within the past 3 days. W&L has yet to put anything on their site about they 2007 schedule and apparently know one on the Old Dominion site knows anything.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 03, 2007, 09:42:32 PM
Yes, there are two schedules on that site. One is listed under "Football schedule" on the left-hand side of every football page. Apparently that's the wrong one. :)

You have to somehow know to click "news" and then the separate schedule link on that page to get the slate you're describing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 03, 2007, 09:52:47 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 03, 2007, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 03, 2007, 08:53:53 PM
Thanks. I tried a lot of possibilities, including going to the athletics front page and the SCHOOL's front page to see if perhaps the web site structure had changed, but I didn't find that page.

Talk about inefficient.

Pat, I agree. I have been told that the entire site is being upgraded but no one will say when that button is going to be pushed. I spoke to one of the assistants because I had seen where Guilford and Greensboro were going to be at night and the schedule you saw had 1:00 PM. He said the games were going to be at night but the schedule on the football page wouldn't be updated until the new site was brought up. The schedule I am looking at is the same one Legacy is seeing. That is under the Athletics Home page under the football tab in the drop down. The person I spoke to indicated the details with W&L hadn't been worked out. That conversation was over 30 days ago. The Salem site was only put on the web site within the past 3 days. W&L has yet to put anything on their site about they 2007 schedule and apparently know one on the Old Dominion site knows anything.
I had also noticed that Guilford shows the September 15 home game versus Averett as a 7:00 pm start while Averett's site shows it as 1:00 pm.  All reports I get say this is a night game which will be, in fact, the first Guilford night game on campus in their history.  They've had "home" night games before at Grimsley HS, War Memorial Stadium and Western Guilford HS, but never on campus.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 03, 2007, 10:15:19 PM
 Bottom line is someone needs to get the Averett Web site straight.  Good luck trying to get anyone this time of year to do anything. Pat, maybe you can send an email to their AD or SID and let them know that the thing is a mess. They might listen to you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 04, 2007, 12:17:26 PM
Looks like the boys at Averett figured it out.  The explanation and schedule is now published.  Averett and W&L will play on 9/22 at night in Salem. Averett has also announced that in 2008 and 2009 they will replace Mount Union with Bridgewater College.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 04, 2007, 12:57:27 PM
Sounds like a good game. I believe we'll have someone there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 04, 2007, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 04, 2007, 12:17:26 PM
Looks like the boys at Averett figured it out.  The explanation and schedule is now published.  Averett and W&L will play on 9/22 at night in Salem. Averett has also announced that in 2008 and 2009 they will replace Mount Union with Bridgewater College.

Kickerdad-

What do you think that means for Averett?  Is Mount Union trying to get out?  Or is Averett trying to ease the sechedule a little bit.  Are they expecting to drop off the next couple of years? Or is it a money issue? What do you think of it?

There was just alot of fans last year that praised Averett for playing Mount Union. Bridgewater is good but they are not a Mount Union. Bridgewater already plays quite a few USASouth teams.  So I am not sure where Averett is headed. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 04, 2007, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 04, 2007, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 04, 2007, 12:17:26 PM
Looks like the boys at Averett figured it out.  The explanation and schedule is now published.  Averett and W&L will play on 9/22 at night in Salem. Averett has also announced that in 2008 and 2009 they will replace Mount Union with Bridgewater College.

Kickerdad-

What do you think that means for Averett?  Is Mount Union trying to get out?  Or is Averett trying to ease the sechedule a little bit.  Are they expecting to drop off the next couple of years? Or is it a money issue? What do you think of it?

There was just alot of fans last year that praised Averett for playing Mount Union. Bridgewater is good but they are not a Mount Union. Bridgewater already plays quite a few USASouth teams.  So I am not sure where Averett is headed. 

If I have my information correct (which I have been known to screw up a few times) the contract with Mt. Union was for only two years. I had heard through the grapevine that Averett was trying to get on with UW-Whitewater this coming year, meaning they would have played Mt. Union and UW-Whitewater within a three week period. That deal didn't come together and time may have been running out. I know for a fact tha Dunlevy would prefer to play all the big dogs he can as a tune up for the conference. As to where Averett is headed, this year is going to be a crap shoot. They have experience players returning, but I just don't know if they are ready to fill some big shoes that graduated. Next year (if everyone returns) they will have 30+ Seniors. Now granted not all of them are starters but they have lots of playing time and they have been will have been togehter for 4 years.

I believe it is possible for Averett to go 8-2 or 7-3 this year and give NCWC and CNU another run for the conference. It will depend on how that hold together the first 5 weeks. They will play 4 road games before they step foot on the home field. (Mt. Union, Guildford, W&L and Ferrum) It doesn't get any easier at home (NCWC, Methodist, Greensboro away, then back home for Shenandoad, CNU and back on the road for Maryville) 4 home games total. I believe they will have the fire power on offense but the defense will be untested and will have to come together early in the season.

So roll the dice and lets see what happens....Could be another great year, could be average or one hell of a long season on the road.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 04, 2007, 09:45:46 PM
I'm really looking forward to the September 15 Averett at Guilford night game.  I think the Averett fans from Danville and the surrounding area, the Guilford students and the Guilford alumni will turn out big time.  First home game of the year, first night game on campus in school history and two explosive offenses - it has all the markings for a very good game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 04, 2007, 11:17:28 PM
yes Hasa..................Gladiators against other Gladiators, the primordial blood call in the ambient light of the moon............I can see it...........300 against the Virginia hordes
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 05, 2007, 06:57:33 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 04, 2007, 11:17:28 PM
yes Hasa..................Gladiators against other Gladiators, the primordial blood call in the ambient light of the moon............I can see it...........300 against the Virginia hordes
Interesting description, abnrgr.  :)  Let's just say I hope the Quakers can reverse last year's 54-34 loss in this year's moonlight.  After being tied at 28 in Danville at the half, the "hordes" ambushed us in the second.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bomb8 on June 05, 2007, 09:19:39 AM
Well honestly I dont see Averett going 8-2 or 7-3 maybe 6-4 and also they will not challenge CNU for the conference and NCW maybe will not either. CNU will be the 1st USA SOUTH OR Dixie Conference outright conference champion and NCW will come in second. Those guys at CNU recuit really well not to mention all the talent they have returning, so I see it another CNU championship yr and how about that sep 1 game CNU vs Rowan, or maybe sep 8 CNU vs MHB.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on June 05, 2007, 09:30:47 AM
So we are in exams right now and i have nothing better to do than to look up stats and type on here. I do not see Averett going 7-3 next year. I am not hatin on them i just dont see it happen. Here is why.

QB- the cougars should have two sophomores competing for the job of QB. Shan Fairbanks and Greg Harbaugh. From the stats page it looks like fairbanks was given more time than Harbaugh but Harbaugh had the better rating.
Fairbanks- 27-45-1 with 5 TD'S
Harbaugh- 3-5-0 with 3 TD'S
I think there will be some competition big time for the starting Job. Replacing Parsons will be hard to do, but i think it will be done.

RB- This spot will definitly be hard to replace with Wilson gone. His stats didnt just jump off the page at you, but i had a chance to see this young guy run in person and play, and ill tell you this he fought very hard for those 800 yards he had. Very Physical running back almost like a bruiser type. However, it looks like Ellison will do a good job replacing him. Dantavious Watson will be the other answer.

O-LINE- This is the critical point and why i say they will not be 7-3. They only have 2 seniors and 2 juniors on the team. They are VERY young. When you have a young O line, it is hard to do alot. Look at Methodist last year. They had 1 senior starting on the line and they gave up more sacks in a season than has been given up there in a long time. I mean it is hard to run an offense behind inexperience, they just dont have that leadership. They do however have a lot of freshman on the team and some good ones coming in. I just think it will be a couple of years before they contend again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 05, 2007, 10:04:22 AM
Remember I said it was possible. A guy can dream. I agree with all of you and that's why my last comment was "it could be one hell of a long season on the road".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 05, 2007, 11:51:15 AM
MC_Ftbl51-

I agree with alot of what you said. At the d3 level especially, and at any level really, having a QB that is consistent is prime.  They will have to replace parson no doubt.

RB- Yes wilson was an exceptional RB.  He was power guy, in my mind. I think he can't be replaced with one back but with two they can compete fine without him. (I personally think every team should have a power guy and a speed guy.) The backup averaged more TD's per att. (Stupid stat but who cares.)

OL- Yeah OL will be critical, but maybe talented could out weigh that.  Who knows. From looking at the rosters of MU and AU it looks like comaparing the linemen on average AU has about 8 to 20 more pounds on thier guys. 

I said expected they were going to be 6-4 and worst 4-6.

Somebody please, I need some help I can't believe I was so decent with my comments of AU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 05, 2007, 12:55:49 PM


Somebody please, I need some help I can't believe I was so decent with my comments of AU.
[/quote]

Deep down you are a wonderful person...................maybe? Besides there is not enough Averett folks on here to harass you and the others like some I have seen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 05, 2007, 02:25:01 PM
wow...this board has been busy the last month, or so...7 pages to get caught up...great work boys-n-girls - a couple of things to throw out there

first - the monarchs had a solid spring - the coaches are happy with the qb progress...i think you'll see much improvement from mr. parks in his 2nd year with the program - i think he has potential to be as effective as rocket as a senior in the passing game, but he'll never be the threat rocket was with his legs...this could be a real break out year for him, but the receiving corps is not as deep without sands - i'm not as worried about mike hill as others are...i think coach sy's comments were mostly a shot across his bow to get him motivated for FOOTBALL after running track this spring, but that's just an opinion...i hope i'm right, cause he is the key to the monarch offense, especially early in the season - my biggest concern is if they can find someone to spell hill...he simply runs better if he can get a few series each game off - the offensive line will be improved because of the experience the young guys got last year and the heat some recruits will put on the returners

secondly, this is how the conference will finish out this season:
cnu (first outright champion)
ncwc
mu, m'ville, averett (tie)
gboro, ferrum (tie)
su

lastly, there is this...
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 02, 2007, 10:07:43 AMI am not good with words and I am often making people mad. (Just look at the upper left hand corner.)
more true words have never been spoken 

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 02, 2007, 10:07:43 AM
However I am good with numbers.
this is clearly up for debate after seeing your basketball formula's...

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 05, 2007, 02:36:30 PM
Narch-

It is so good to hear from you.  It could only have been you to make my "golf score" get even better.

ah...the numbers were accurate but whether or not they made sense is up to debate.

People have like my lastest numbers and haven't heard any complaints from my last listing.

I have a power ranking system for football which I will be using this year.  Lets just say it is more "Narch"ish.  Working right now on getting it up using last seasons numbers.

Just a heads up I have done CNU and they finished at 42 pts.  Tried to see where they stood up against Mount Union.  Mount Union had 65 points.  (These numbers use regular season numbers.)

Note: the total number of points will have to be divided by number of regular season games.  (FC only played 9 games last year).

4.2 for CNU
and 6.5 for Mount union
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 05, 2007, 03:10:13 PM
CNU 4.2
AU 3.8
NCWC 3.05
MC 2.1
MU 1.6
GC 1.45
SU 1.2
FC 1

Although dividing it by the number of regular season games didn't really do anything. (CNU 42 points /10 games results in 4.2)

It use's:
1 pt for every win at home
2 pt for every win on the road
1 point  for every win thier opponent has.
0 points for losing
Get the same points for beating a team not a division 3 team. 

Only get half as many points for the amount of wins they have (NAIA NCCAA etc)unless

d2 get an extra .25 points for the same rules that apply above.

i.e win on the road against a d2 team who goes 3-7.  Would result in a score of 2.5 for the game and 3.75 for wins for a total of 6.25 points

d1AA .375 points

d1 .5

That is just version 1.0

Thinking about figuring out a way to factor in opponents wins within the conference and how well that conference does in non-conference play.  That way it might add i little conference strength to it.  Like opponents as well.  Right now it looks fine.

Lets clarify something right now.  Yes SU was 2-8 and Yes FC was 2-7 and FC finished higher then SU, but SU wins came when opponents had 9 combined wins.  FC on the other hand opponents combined wins totaled 4.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 05, 2007, 04:53:36 PM
Narch
I got scared. Welcome back.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 05, 2007, 05:31:06 PM
Narch, you must be doing way to much work to stay off the boards for that long.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 05, 2007, 08:11:13 PM
Papi
Admittedly the board has been a little dry............ as usual with this time of year.

I am at NAS Brunswick this week. The Navy is......different
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 05, 2007, 08:34:48 PM
papi - a little work, a little play...the baseball board kept me pretty busy, too

pridesportguy - not sure what you mean by "golf score", but i'm certain there are MANY at mu much more qualified "then" me to help you with your golf game

i actually like the premise of each of your last 2 "formulas", but i'm not sure why you need to re-invent the wheel with the last one - qowi is similar (but more effective) and widely recognized as a solid measure...come up with something that uses opponents-opponents and i'll be impressed
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 05, 2007, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: narch on June 05, 2007, 02:25:01 PM

secondly, this is how the conference will finish out this season:
cnu (first outright champion)
ncwc
mu, m'ville, averett (tie)
gboro, ferrum (tie)
su


Not so sure if CNU is such a slam dunk this year Narch, they lose 24 TD's from 2006 with Hilliard and Jones graduating - and as long as NCWC is returning Townsen, Bush and Haywood, I am thinking they might be the team to beat.  Cedric Townsen was by far the best talent I saw on the field last year. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 05, 2007, 10:36:01 PM
Narch-

It is very similar to the QOWI(just put it together in 30 mins.)...I am trying to get a hold of the MD high school football formula the one they use tournament seeding.  I just have to email them and get it.

Golf Score=Karma.

I do need some work on my golf game...I'd be willing to pay a 10 year old to help get my golf game going.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 05, 2007, 10:43:02 PM
Good to see that it isn't all work!  Have you got any trips planned down my way in the near future...the fishing is great right now!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 06, 2007, 08:59:11 AM
Narch-haha- I am not reinventing the wheel.  I am taking a Goodyear tire and making it a tire you can get at Wal-Mart's tire and lube service.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bomb8 on June 06, 2007, 09:08:12 AM

Not so sure if CNU is such a slam dunk this year Narch, they lose 24 TD's from 2006 with Hilliard and Jones graduating - and as long as NCWC is returning Townsen, Bush and Haywood, I am thinking they might be the team to beat.  Cedric Townsen was by far the best talent I saw on the field last year. 
[/quote

  I can see where you are coming from when you say CNU is losing 24 TD'S from last yr but u have to also think about the TD's that are going to be scored by the guys they have returning. Yes they lose Hilliard a fine RB but they have Taylor, and Baylor two guys with speed and good vision to carry the load. Yes they lose Jones but Jones didnt play in the playoff game against W&J and the other recievers did pretty good themselves. Burke is a jr reciever who has played the last 2 yrs and contributed and now he has to be the man and they also have some really good tranfers and other guys who have talent but were overshadowed last yr by Jones, and speight. So I wouldnt think twice about CNU not being the first outright champion this conference has seen and I just dont see NCW being that good as everyone thinks they will be. They did win games last yr but when you cant beat the apprentice school you havent came up yet.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 06, 2007, 09:18:09 AM
CNU always seems to put it together.  Too count them out is just plain maddness.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 06, 2007, 11:53:17 AM
My opinion of how well Maryville can finish this season might be below some expectations.  I am not sure how battle tested they really are.  28-55 was thier opponents combined record last year and they only finished 5-5.  (records of teams only d3.)  GC finished 3-7, but only 2-6 was counted towards that record.

I will add opponents opponent record to my power ranking but I am not sure how big a scale I could do it.  That is alot of teams for one person to take on. 419-450 was AU opponents opponents record.

Pat or Ralph or anyone that might have an excel spreadsheet on every d3football school, it might make trying to take on this task a little easier, I would like a copy of that. (Only if it available.)  If not a spreadsheet a document where I can copy and paste to a spreadsheet.

I made a mistake early left out CNU on calculating opponent wins.  it is 36-57 not 28-55.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 06, 2007, 11:54:44 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 06, 2007, 11:53:17 AM
My opinion of how well Maryville can finish this season might be below some expectations.  I am not sure how battle tested they really are.  28-55 was thier opponents combined record last year and they only finished 5-5.  (records of teams only d3.)  GC finished 3-7, but only 2-6 was counted towards that record.

I will add opponents opponent record to my power ranking but I am not sure how big a scale I could do it.  That is alot of teams for one person to take on. 419-450 was AU opponents opponents record.

Pat or Ralph or anyone that might have an excel spreadsheet on every d3football school, it might make trying to take on this task a little easier, I would like a copy of that. (Only if it available.)  If not a spreadsheet a document where I can copy and paste to a spreadsheet.
Sorry, I don't.  The opponents' opponents' record will be challenging to calculate this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on June 06, 2007, 11:56:30 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 06, 2007, 11:53:17 AM
My opinion of how well Maryville can finish this season might be below some expectations.  I am not sure how battle tested they really are.  28-55 was thier opponents combined record last year and they only finished 5-5.  (records of teams only d3.)  GC finished 3-7, but only 2-6 was counted towards that record.

I will add opponents opponent record to my power ranking but I am not sure how big a scale I could do it.  That is alot of teams for one person to take on. 419-450 was AU opponents opponents record.

Pat or Ralph or anyone that might have an excel spreadsheet on every d3football school, it might make trying to take on this task a little easier, I would like a copy of that. (Only if it available.)  If not a spreadsheet a document where I can copy and paste to a spreadsheet.

I did that once by copying the ranking page of the LAZ index into Excel. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on June 06, 2007, 12:06:14 PM
Hey good to see ya back Narch. Any word on how Coach Sy is doing. I tried to call down there, but the coaches are busy and hard to catch this time of year. I am actually looking forward to coming down there this year, it sounds like the year could be exciting. Delapp and myself are about to be coaching together hopefully. Im waiting for them to make the call. From what ive heard and seen, almost all of us on the championship team are coaching now that graduated.
        I think i will have to disagree about CNU winning it outright this year. I dont know if they have the experience back. They lost alot of defensive performers. Talked to a guy yesterday from Gilman sports and he was at CNU 2 or 3 weeks ago. Kelchner was telling him defense will be the question this year.
Now you know as well as i do that CNU has always had a great defense. But i really think they will be struggling this year, and especially with the new D-C. It should be exciting.

CANT WAIT TILL THE SEASON STARTS.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 06, 2007, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: Bomb8 on June 06, 2007, 09:08:12 AMSo I wouldnt think twice about CNU not being the first outright champion this conference has seen and I just dont see NCW being that good as everyone thinks they will be.
can someone who is good with double negatives help me out...should i or shouldn't i think that cnu will win an outright title this year? :)

while i think that ncwc has the returning talent to win the title on paper, they have not had a fantastic record of returning key players in their short history...cnu DOES have a pretty good record of simply reloading with players that step up and fill shoes...hence, my selection of cnu over ncwc (and everyone else)...any prognostication in june must take into account these unknown variables
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 06, 2007, 02:27:55 PM
Quote from: narch on June 06, 2007, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: Bomb8 on June 06, 2007, 09:08:12 AMSo I wouldnt think twice about CNU not being the first outright champion this conference has seen and I just dont see NCW being that good as everyone thinks they will be.
can someone who is good with double negatives help me out...should i or shouldn't i think that cnu will win an outright title this year? :)

Technically, since two negatives equal a positive, "So I wouldnt think twice about CNU not being the first outright champion this conference has seen" equals "So I would think twice about CNU being the first outright champion this conference has seen."   Sounds to me as though bomb8 thinks (actually thinks twice) that CNU will be the first outright champ.

Even more rare is the triple negative (He ain't never seen nobody like you!), which equals one negative (He has never seen anyone like you!).

The most rare multi-negative sentence I have personally witnessed is the virtually unintelligible quadruple negative (He ain't never been not right at no time) which equals a positive (He is always right).  lol

However, "No, I wouldn't be not surprised to never not hear a sentence that's not more filled with negatives" such as, come to think of it, this one.  :)     No Peace for you ..... Not!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 06, 2007, 06:41:27 PM
Power Rankings version1.1

New Version Described:

1 point for home win
2 points for away win

1 point for total wins by d3 opponents (No longer matters what happens at another level. Power Rankings among d3.)

-1 one point for every loss

That will equal total points

SOS Index 50% of Winning percentage
25% for opponents winning percentage
25% for opponents-opponent winning percentage


Total points X SOS Index= Power Ranking

USASouth from last year.
Power Rankings (rounded to the hundreths) (Regular Season)

CNU 37.37
AU 36.05
NCWC 22.68
M'Ville 18.18
MU 17.03
FC 15.54
SU 15.24
GC 13.02

Mount Union was 49.20 last year.

What is everyone's thoughts on this one?

Noted earlier 28-55 was not M'vill opponent record.  It is in fact 36-57.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 06, 2007, 10:23:24 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 06, 2007, 09:18:09 AM
CNU always seems to put it together.  Too count them out is just plain maddness.

Not counting the captains out - just saying it could be a tight race to the finish.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bomb8 on June 07, 2007, 09:02:06 AM
I agree the ? will be the defense since they lost All-American DB and also other good defensive players, but the thing with CNU is last yr they allowed a lot of players who were backups to get significant playing time and they are the one's who are returning so they are battle tested. Also the d-line are vets since they have been playing for the last 2 yrs, linebackers have experience but will need a few players to step up, and the secondary has a returner in Harper, while someone will have to emerge and take over the other corner spot. Also at safety Anderson who played as a freshman returns, and also Long younger brother to Justin Long who started at safety for 3 yrs. And the offense is mostly the same with only two or three changes, so CNU looks better on paper than NCW since they did win the conference last yr and they have lots of experience and talent returning.

    Cant wait for the season to start its right around the corner.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 07, 2007, 10:41:02 AM
Quote from: Bomb8 on June 07, 2007, 09:02:06 AM
I agree the ? will be the defense since they lost All-American DB and also other good defensive players, but the thing with CNU is last yr they allowed a lot of players who were backups to get significant playing time and they are the one's who are returning so they are battle tested. Also the d-line are vets since they have been playing for the last 2 yrs, linebackers have experience but will need a few players to step up, and the secondary has a returner in Harper, while someone will have to emerge and take over the other corner spot. Also at safety Anderson who played as a freshman returns, and also Long younger brother to Justin Long who started at safety for 3 yrs. And the offense is mostly the same with only two or three changes, so CNU looks better on paper than NCW since they did win the conference last yr and they have lots of experience and talent returning.

    Cant wait for the season to start its right around the corner.

I am not too sure about the question mark being the defense.  Yeah they do lose All-American DB Rob, but the defense has always been a strong point for them.  Every year in thier exsistence the scoring defense and total defense has been in the top two (There might have been a top 3 in there.)

I think the ? is with the offense.  It has been ok the past couple of years finishing around the middle of the conference but they lose thier top WR and top two rushers. (1 is the #3 WR)

They have their QB coming back, and hopefully for CNU's sake that he doesn't throw more INT's then TD's.  (The #2 QB had a better efficiency but he was a senior.) 

remeber they were in the middle of the conference for offense and they are losing that many key players.  I still have them to win it all, despite that.  They lost some players on defense last year and they finished at the top.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 07, 2007, 02:22:02 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 06, 2007, 06:41:27 PMUSASouth from last year.
Power Rankings (rounded to the hundreths) (Regular Season)

CNU 37.37
AU 36.05
NCWC 22.68
M'Ville 18.18
MU 17.03
FC 15.54
SU 15.24
GC 13.02

What is everyone's thoughts on this one?
hmm...looks a lot like this:

Chris. Newport 6 1   8 3
Averett 6 1   7 3
N.C. Wesleyan 5 2   6 4
Maryville (Tenn.) 4 3   5 5
Methodist 2 5   4 6
Greensboro 2 5   3 7
Ferrum 2 5   2 7
Shenandoah 1 6   2 8

so you've possibly created a formula which can replicate season standings after it's been played and managed to mangle the english language in the process...congrats!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 07, 2007, 02:37:55 PM
Quote from: narch on June 06, 2007, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: Bomb8 on June 06, 2007, 09:08:12 AMSo I wouldnt think twice about CNU not being the first outright champion this conference has seen and I just dont see NCW being that good as everyone thinks they will be.
can someone who is good with double negatives help me out...should i or shouldn't i think that cnu will win an outright title this year? :)

while i think that ncwc has the returning talent to win the title on paper, they have not had a fantastic record of returning key players in their short history...cnu DOES have a pretty good record of simply reloading with players that step up and fill shoes...hence, my selection of cnu over ncwc (and everyone else)...any prognostication in june must take into account these unknown variables

I think it was a triple negative
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 07, 2007, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: Bomb8 on June 07, 2007, 09:02:06 AM
I agree the ? will be the defense since they lost All-American DB and also other good defensive players, but the thing with CNU is last yr they allowed a lot of players who were backups to get significant playing time and they are the one's who are returning so they are battle tested. Also the d-line are vets since they have been playing for the last 2 yrs, linebackers have experience but will need a few players to step up, and the secondary has a returner in Harper, while someone will have to emerge and take over the other corner spot. Also at safety Anderson who played as a freshman returns, and also Long younger brother to Justin Long who started at safety for 3 yrs. And the offense is mostly the same with only two or three changes, so CNU looks better on paper than NCW since they did win the conference last yr and they have lots of experience and talent returning.

    Cant wait for the season to start its right around the corner.

That's what I love about Kelchner and CNU.....the year they lost the All-American LB Wood and the other 2 1st team All-conference LBs...I thought ..."oh no"......but then last year they improved their record.....never discount who is in the wings at CNU.....and that younger Long DB....he can outright nail people...he's small, but I would need someone to help remind me of anyone who hits people as hard. And Harper...wow...didn't he and Jones just finish 5th in the nation as a part of a relay team at the d3 NCAA track championships in Wisconsin??

I'm looking forward to the surprises in store for us this year.....will CNU have another All-American to make it 4 years in a row? If so, who is the pre-season favorite?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 07, 2007, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 07, 2007, 02:37:55 PM
Quote from: narch on June 06, 2007, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: Bomb8 on June 06, 2007, 09:08:12 AMSo I wouldnt think twice about CNU not being the first outright champion this conference has seen and I just dont see NCW being that good as everyone thinks they will be.
can someone who is good with double negatives help me out...should i or shouldn't i think that cnu will win an outright title this year? :)

while i think that ncwc has the returning talent to win the title on paper, they have not had a fantastic record of returning key players in their short history...cnu DOES have a pretty good record of simply reloading with players that step up and fill shoes...hence, my selection of cnu over ncwc (and everyone else)...any prognostication in june must take into account these unknown variables

I think it was a triple negative
You're right, the entire sentence was a triple negative, but the portion I quoted was "only" a double.  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 07, 2007, 03:00:23 PM
I thought seing GC in last place would have made you happy. I guess not. 

Funny thing is 7-3 for CNU was better than AU 7-3 even though AU had played better teams all year.

Thanks for the obvious. It should look something that. It wouldn't make much sense to have MU to be at the top because they were 4-6 (actually 3-6 by these standards.)

Here is the reason why GC was at the bottom.

FC for example finished 2-7
GC finished 2-6 (loss and win were taken away because they were not d3 opponents)

FC OPP Rec 46-40
GC Opp Rec 38-39

FC Opp-Opp Rec 371-376
GC Opp-Opp Rec 349-363

FC finishes above GC despite GC having a better winning percentage which makes up 50% of the SOS.

These are the stats you wished I would have had with the basketball, and now you are complaining.

I haven't done Wesley College from last year who was also 10-0 in regular season and I'd bet that thier 10-0 wasn't as good as Mount Union's 10-0.  Just as the pollsters believed.  I'll even have to do UW-Whitewater to see if they were again right.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bomb8 on June 07, 2007, 03:15:09 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 07, 2007, 10:41:02 AM
Quote from: Bomb8 on June 07, 2007, 09:02:06 AM
I agree the ? will be the defense since they lost All-American DB and also other good defensive players, but the thing with CNU is last yr they allowed a lot of players who were backups to get significant playing time and they are the one's who are returning so they are battle tested. Also the d-line are vets since they have been playing for the last 2 yrs, linebackers have experience but will need a few players to step up, and the secondary has a returner in Harper, while someone will have to emerge and take over the other corner spot. Also at safety Anderson who played as a freshman returns, and also Long younger brother to Justin Long who started at safety for 3 yrs. And the offense is mostly the same with only two or three changes, so CNU looks better on paper than NCW since they did win the conference last yr and they have lots of experience and talent returning.

    Cant wait for the season to start its right around the corner.

I am not too sure about the question mark being the defense.  Yeah they do lose All-American DB Rob, but the defense has always been a strong point for them.  Every year in thier exsistence the scoring defense and total defense has been in the top two (There might have been a top 3 in there.)

I think the ? is with the offense.  It has been ok the past couple of years finishing around the middle of the conference but they lose thier top WR and top two rushers. (1 is the #3 WR)

They have their QB coming back, and hopefully for CNU's sake that he doesn't throw more INT's then TD's.  (The #2 QB had a better efficiency but he was a senior.) 

remeber they were in the middle of the conference for offense and they are losing that many key players.  I still have them to win it all, despite that.  They lost some players on defense last year and they finished at the top.

So you think the ? is the offense well i disagree yea they lost Jones and he was a great player for the captains but experienced wideouts are returning who contributed while Jones was there, so all this means is that they have to do more than what they were asked before and personally I know they can, a perfect example is for two consecutive yrs straight Jones was injured to finish the season and other wideouts had good games in his absence most recently was the W&J playoff game which Hightower, Speight, and Burke came up big in so they can exist without Jones all this does is give the guys who are hungry more reps to do big things. Also about their QB Faison has a good arm but you have to take in account this was his 1st yr as the starter and every good QB has to go through growing pains so I see this yr as his yr where he does so, and about losing their running back they have two guys returning who played last yr in Taylor and Baylor and both have speed and great vision to replace the yards they are losing. So if history repeats itself with the Captains they will do better than what they did the previous yr after losing an All-American and finally get out of the 1st round of the NCAA playoffs.

And about the triple negative about counting CNU out for being outright champs, I can clarify it for anyone who misunderstood the Captains will be USA South champions in 2007!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 07, 2007, 04:02:18 PM
Bomb8-

I just pointing out that they have never had a bad defense.  I still don't understand why the defense would be such ?.  I know that you are losing Rob, but considering what you are losing on offense should raise the question marks.

Some numbers

Offense CNU is losing 2773 yards out of 3526.  That is 78.6% of the total yards lost.

TD #'s 31/41 will be lost that is 75%

Now on the defensive side you are losing 158 tackles / 732 thats only 21%

INT's 4/8.  50%

Sacks 2.5/20. 12.5%

All these numbers could be a little higher.  I only took the numbers from the big core group. (But for CNU's sake lets hope not)


I am just not sure if the defense is the big worry for next year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 07, 2007, 05:17:13 PM
Quote from: narch on June 07, 2007, 02:22:02 PM

so you've possibly created a formula which can replicate season standings after it's been played and managed to mangle the english language in the process...congrats!


Ahhh, it's been a while since I've read some quality greensboroese.  Outstanding.

Narch - hope the quality control is working out for you.  May is always a tough month, enjoy your summer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Scream on June 07, 2007, 09:45:55 PM
Beware the white jerseys!!!  You need to recalculate your power rankings due to the awesome force of the white jerseys at home for GC!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 12:07:52 AM
Quote from: Big Scream on April 05, 2007, 07:41:59 PM
Here's how it will go down...
Sept. 8   @ UNC Pembroke     Win over a new program
Sept. 15  @ Gallaudet University Win over a "new" program                 
Sept. 22   @ Maryville College, TN * Loss, tough one on the road
Sept. 29  Guilford College  Big win over a rival
Oct. 6  Christopher Newport University *  Tight loss to a good program
Oct. 13  Shenandoah University  Big bounceback win
Oct. 20  Averett University #  Courgars not king of the jungle
Oct. 27  @ Ferrum College *   Win, O outscores the option
November
Nov. 3  Methodist College *  Win
Nov. 10 North Carolina Wesleyan College * Win

8-2, USAC Champs

Big Scream I want to talk about one game in particular the Gallaudet game.

I think we could beat them. Could.  I think it could be a really close game. You do understand that Gallaudet is a university of deaf and hard of hearing students.

Now here is the point I am trying to make, do you know where they will probably get alot of thier players?

Maryland School for the Deaf

They are becoming the Mount Union of the National Deaf Prep Schools.  They have won 5 National Championships in the last 6 years.

Not many of us USASouther's have seen Gallaudet play before in any sport. I have and it is truly an extraordinary thing to watch. I only saw a basketball game and I can't imagine how hard it is for a coach to coach a team that is even bigger than a basketball team.

I hope nobody thinks they are a pushover.

FYI about MD School of the deaf according to the massey ratings of MD HS Football they rank higher than 81 high schools.  There are only 213 in MD.  They could probably compete well with the rest of the high schools in MD I know they could beat my alma mater, but I think because of thier situation they can't schedule as many regular high schools. They outscored thier opponents last 445 to 41 last year.

I wish Gallaudet the best of luck next year!!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 08, 2007, 06:55:49 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 07, 2007, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: Bomb8 on June 07, 2007, 09:02:06 AM
I agree the ? will be the defense since they lost All-American DB and also other good defensive players, but the thing with CNU is last yr they allowed a lot of players who were backups to get significant playing time and they are the one's who are returning so they are battle tested. Also the d-line are vets since they have been playing for the last 2 yrs, linebackers have experience but will need a few players to step up, and the secondary has a returner in Harper, while someone will have to emerge and take over the other corner spot. Also at safety Anderson who played as a freshman returns, and also Long younger brother to Justin Long who started at safety for 3 yrs. And the offense is mostly the same with only two or three changes, so CNU looks better on paper than NCW since they did win the conference last yr and they have lots of experience and talent returning.

    Cant wait for the season to start its right around the corner.

That's what I love about Kelchner and CNU.....the year they lost the All-American LB Wood and the other 2 1st team All-conference LBs...I thought ..."oh no"......but then last year they improved their record.....never discount who is in the wings at CNU.....and that younger Long DB....he can outright nail people...he's small, but I would need someone to help remind me of anyone who hits people as hard. And Harper...wow...didn't he and Jones just finish 5th in the nation as a part of a relay team at the d3 NCAA track championships in Wisconsin??

I'm looking forward to the surprises in store for us this year.....will CNU have another All-American to make it 4 years in a row? If so, who is the pre-season favorite?

      This was before the USA South and goes WAY back but Robbie Stanley is pound for pound, the hardest hitter I have ever seen. Probably 150lbs soaking wet, he had small DB size playing LB. He wreaked havoc at Ferrum and then later Randolph-Macon.  As an impressionable freshman and he a senior in HS, I remember cruising in his Nova to get a drink before practice listening to Skynyrd on the 8 track.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 08, 2007, 06:57:46 AM
Gallaudet is a national university that attracts students - and student athletes - from all over the country and, for that matter, all over the world.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: hasanova on June 08, 2007, 06:57:46 AM
Gallaudet is a national university that attracts students - and student athletes - from all over the country and, for that matter, all over the world.

I understand that, but from a coaching standpoint to avoid the best school(Maryland school for the Deaf) for thier purposes, just isn't a good idea.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 08, 2007, 10:05:09 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: hasanova on June 08, 2007, 06:57:46 AM
Gallaudet is a national university that attracts students - and student athletes - from all over the country and, for that matter, all over the world.
I understand that, but from a coaching standpoint to avoid the best school(Maryland school for the Deaf) for thier purposes, just isn't a good idea.
Sorry, pride, I didn't see a reference to "avoid" anywhere.  I'm sure Gallaudet gets its share of hearing impaired students from Maryland and the greater Baltimore/DC metro area, but I also just wanted to highlight the fact that Gallaudet has a much more global impact in the hearing impaired community than just the Washington metro area.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 10:28:06 AM
nova-

That is fine. I probably wasn't clear.  I even looked at the basketball roster to see what players they had on thier team; there weren't many Maryland players on the team. (Maryland school for the Deaf, did win the national championship this year in basketball as well.) The school has one 20 National Championships since 2000 in the 11 sports that they offer.

It is a good sports school and Gallaudet is in a good spot for these players.

I want to see every high school athlete play in college somewhere.  Even if they have to create a NCAA D4 Intramural division

That is the problem with some of the kids back from where I am from, if it isn't D1 they don't want to play.  It has gotten better recently and more of them are accepting the idea that they aren't d1 caliber.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 08, 2007, 12:38:46 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 10:28:06 AM
I want to see every high school athlete play in college somewhere.  Even if they have to create a NCAA D4 Intramural division.

That isn't necessary, trust me. I played basketball and baseball in high school, started games as a senior in baseball, and I was not good enough to play baseball in college.

Any college program that I could have made would not have been worth it from a competitive standpoint.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 08, 2007, 12:38:46 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 10:28:06 AM
I want to see every high school athlete play in college somewhere.  Even if they have to create a NCAA D4 Intramural division.

That isn't necessary, trust me. I played basketball and baseball in high school, started games as a senior in baseball, and I was not good enough to play baseball in college.

Any college program that I could have made would not have been worth it from a competitive standpoint.

Let me rephrase it little bit. I think every high school player should at least attempt it.  If they realize that it just isn't worth it or they don't even make the team then they shouldn't continue to pursue it. Where I come from there are kids that just won't attempt it. I keep in contact with a quite a few coaches from my high school that are amazed on how much talent goes wasted.  My school competes year in and year on the state level and most won't try it. There is never any harm in trying.

I know a player a few years ago from MD she was the player of the year for softball had an ERA of something like .16 and she said she wasn't going to even play softball in college.  She changed her mind she is playing d3 softball right now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 08, 2007, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 08, 2007, 12:38:46 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 10:28:06 AM
I want to see every high school athlete play in college somewhere.  Even if they have to create a NCAA D4 Intramural division.

That isn't necessary, trust me. I played basketball and baseball in high school, started games as a senior in baseball, and I was not good enough to play baseball in college.

Any college program that I could have made would not have been worth it from a competitive standpoint.

Let me rephrase it little bit. I think every high school player should at least attempt it.  If they realize that it just isn't worth it or they don't even make the team then they shouldn't continue to pursue it. Where I come from there are kids that just won't attempt it. I keep in contact with a quite a few coaches from my high school that are amazed on how much talent goes wasted.  My school competes year in and year on the state level and most won't try it. There is never any harm in trying.

I know a player a few years ago from MD she was the player of the year for softball had an ERA of something like .16 and she said she wasn't going to even play softball in college.  She changed her mind she is playing d3 softball right now.
I have nephew who is 6'10" tall, but he decided he would rather pursue his college academic career without interruption rather than "try" to make a college team.  It's sometimes simply a personal choice.  Now, after graduating with honors in three subjects - math, physics and computer science - he has a plum job with Microsoft in Seattle.  I tend to agree with Pat - almost all colleges have intramurals if that's what you want to do.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 08, 2007, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 08, 2007, 12:38:46 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 10:28:06 AM
I want to see every high school athlete play in college somewhere.  Even if they have to create a NCAA D4 Intramural division.

That isn't necessary, trust me. I played basketball and baseball in high school, started games as a senior in baseball, and I was not good enough to play baseball in college.

Any college program that I could have made would not have been worth it from a competitive standpoint.

Let me rephrase it little bit. I think every high school player should at least attempt it.  If they realize that it just isn't worth it or they don't even make the team then they shouldn't continue to pursue it. Where I come from there are kids that just won't attempt it. I keep in contact with a quite a few coaches from my high school that are amazed on how much talent goes wasted.  My school competes year in and year on the state level and most won't try it. There is never any harm in trying.

I know a player a few years ago from MD she was the player of the year for softball had an ERA of something like .16 and she said she wasn't going to even play softball in college.  She changed her mind she is playing d3 softball right now.
I have nephew who is 6'10" tall, but he decided he would rather pursue his college academic career without interruption rather than "try" to make a college team.  It's sometimes simply a personal choice.  Now, after graduating with honors in three subjects - math, physics and computer science - he has a plum job with Microsoft in Seattle.  I tend to agree with Pat - almost all colleges have intramurals if that's what you want to do.

I understand that. Your nephew made the right choice. Maybe I am just to risky and don't really want to take the safe route. It is really hard for me to even imagine someone not even trying to play in college if they played in high school. Even if it is just for one practice.  Players can become better players.  I know quite a few players that were just ok in high school, but worked hard and became stars on thier own team.  I think that too is what d3 is all about.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 08, 2007, 02:47:16 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 02:08:17 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 08, 2007, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 08, 2007, 12:38:46 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 10:28:06 AM
I want to see every high school athlete play in college somewhere.  Even if they have to create a NCAA D4 Intramural division.

That isn't necessary, trust me. I played basketball and baseball in high school, started games as a senior in baseball, and I was not good enough to play baseball in college.

Any college program that I could have made would not have been worth it from a competitive standpoint.

Let me rephrase it little bit. I think every high school player should at least attempt it.  If they realize that it just isn't worth it or they don't even make the team then they shouldn't continue to pursue it. Where I come from there are kids that just won't attempt it. I keep in contact with a quite a few coaches from my high school that are amazed on how much talent goes wasted.  My school competes year in and year on the state level and most won't try it. There is never any harm in trying.

I know a player a few years ago from MD she was the player of the year for softball had an ERA of something like .16 and she said she wasn't going to even play softball in college.  She changed her mind she is playing d3 softball right now.
I have nephew who is 6'10" tall, but he decided he would rather pursue his college academic career without interruption rather than "try" to make a college team.  It's sometimes simply a personal choice.  Now, after graduating with honors in three subjects - math, physics and computer science - he has a plum job with Microsoft in Seattle.  I tend to agree with Pat - almost all colleges have intramurals if that's what you want to do.

I understand that. Your nephew made the right choice. Maybe I am just to risky and don't really want to take the safe route. It is really hard for me to even imagine someone not even trying to play in college if they played in high school. Even if it is just for one practice.  Players can become better players.  I know quite a few players that were just ok in high school, but worked hard and became stars on thier own team.  I think that too is what d3 is all about.

     I have a 12 year old nephew that's fastball has been clocked at 110 in little league. He won't even go out for the middle school team.  Says he wants to focus on studying. His name is Sidd Finch.  ;D ;D ;D
     Seriously, I agree that it is a personal choice and everyone is different. However, I will say that my sports experiences were just as important to my success in life as anything I learned in a classroom. I agree with Pride that it would be nice if more kids would at least gave it a shot. I think some legitimately do want to focus on studies but I also think some are intimidated by the leap from HS to the college level. Even D3 is a big jump but there are some borderline kids that with a little work, determination, and patience, could contribute on the D3 level.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 08, 2007, 03:00:19 PM
Pride, back to Pat Coleman's point about the difference between HS and college sports, I played HS basketball and baseball and thought I was a fairly good player.  So, when I got to college, I considered "trying" to walk-on Guilford's basketball team.  I then watched some of the "recruited" freshmen and upperclassmen playing and soon realized they were "out of my league."  I realize every small college doesn't have this type of team, but I saw World B. Free (nee Lloyd), M. L. Carr and Greg Jackson, all future NBA players - two of whom were All-Stars.  These men later won the NAIA title in 1973.  Many of the guys who didn't play pro were 6'6" to 6'10" bruisers who would have killed me.  All I would have gotten from even trying out would have been humiliation, a possible broken nose and a copy of the poster showing World Free stepping on my shoulder while doing a reverse dunk.

I think most reasonable people reach a point where they realize "those guys are better than me and I better pass my Calculus exam if I ever want to be an Engineer."  Fortunately for me, a small college environment allowed me to play soccer, but I have never regretted not trying out for basketball.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 08, 2007, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on June 08, 2007, 02:47:16 PM
 I have a 12 year old nephew that's fastball has been clocked at 110 in little league. He won't even go out for the middle school team.  Says he wants to focus on studying. His name is Sidd Finch.  ;D ;D ;D 
This reference is probably lost on many of our readers, but I see you remember George Plimpton's famous April Fool spoof in Sports Illustrated of the infamous - and fictional - Mets phenom.  Hadn't he also lived in a Tibetan monastery, pitched in Army boots and played the French horn?  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 08, 2007, 03:10:40 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 08, 2007, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on June 08, 2007, 02:47:16 PM
 I have a 12 year old nephew that's fastball has been clocked at 110 in little league. He won't even go out for the middle school team.  Says he wants to focus on studying. His name is Sidd Finch.  ;D ;D ;D 
This reference is probably lost on many of our readers, but I see you remember George Plimpton's famous April Fool spoof in Sports Illustrated of the famous - and fictional - Mets phenom.  Hadn't he also lived in a Tibetan monastery, pitched in Army boots and played the French horn?  lol

     Yep, I think you are probably right Hasa. I sometimes forget that in two weeks, I will be a 44 year old middle age man.  :o I looked it up and that article came out on April 1st, 1985.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 03:13:31 PM
nova-

All valid points. Maybe I am a bit new school when it comes to all of this, but I would still do it.

Personally If I were around players that were better than me, I wouldn't care.  I am out always challenging players that are better than me not because I think I can win, but because I will be come a better player by doing so.

By the way are you coming to the GC-GC game this year. I'll save you a burger or two at the tailgate party.  I am doing things different this year, not having a big sponsored one.  It will be a private one this year. More than welcome to stop by.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 08, 2007, 03:14:59 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 08, 2007, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on June 08, 2007, 02:47:16 PM
 I have a 12 year old nephew that's fastball has been clocked at 110 in little league. He won't even go out for the middle school team.  Says he wants to focus on studying. His name is Sidd Finch.  ;D ;D ;D 
This reference is probably lost on many of our readers, but I see you remember George Plimpton's famous April Fool spoof in Sports Illustrated of the famous - and fictional - Mets phenom.  Hadn't he also lived in a Tibetan monastery, pitched in Army boots and played the French horn?  lol

     Yes, and the radar gun clocked him at 168 mph. I remember reading that article in 1985 thinking there is no way but still somewhat buying it. Of course, I felt like a total fool like so many others when I realized what the date was.  :-[
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 08, 2007, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 03:13:31 PM
nova-

All valid points. Maybe I am a bit new school when it comes to all of this, but I would still do it.

Personally If I were around players that were better than me, I wouldn't care.  I am out always challenging players that are better than me not because I think I can win, but because I will be come a better player by doing so.

By the way are you coming to the GC-GC game this year. I'll save you a burger or two at the tailgate party.  I am doing things different this year, not having a big sponsored one.  It will be a private one this year. More than welcome to stop by.

     I think you both make valid points. I am just glad that I stuck it out even though it didn't go so well  early on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 08, 2007, 05:01:06 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 08, 2007, 03:13:31 PM
nova-

All valid points. Maybe I am a bit new school when it comes to all of this, but I would still do it.

Personally If I were around players that were better than me, I wouldn't care.  I am out always challenging players that are better than me not because I think I can win, but because I will be come a better player by doing so.

By the way are you coming to the GC-GC game this year. I'll save you a burger or two at the tailgate party.  I am doing things different this year, not having a big sponsored one.  It will be a private one this year. More than welcome to stop by.
I've been to the first ten games, so I think I'll be at this one as well.  Thanks for the offer on a burger - medium  - lettuce, tomato, mayo and onion.  :)

This is the last thing I'll say about trying out for a college team -  I think it's always wise to challenge yourself by playing with and against others who are better.  That forces you to improve as well, but there is, in my mind, a limit.  If I'm rated a 3 in tennis, for example, I may want to play a 3.5 or even a 4.  I am not, however, going to risk complete humiliation and injury by stepping on the court with a professional player or, for that matter, someone who is at the top of his game in the NCAA.  That's just nuts!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 09, 2007, 01:09:59 AM
I am getting scared again with all this playful male banter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 09, 2007, 08:44:34 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 09, 2007, 01:09:59 AM
I am getting scared again with all this playful male banter
Does it help if we just call it playful mail banter?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 09, 2007, 01:31:29 PM
That was one of you better ones professor. You truly are a Herodotus (sp) ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 09, 2007, 03:46:34 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 09, 2007, 01:31:29 PM
That was one of you better ones professor. You truly are a Herodotus (sp) ;)
Your spelling of Greek historian Herodotus is spot on, abnrgr.  My narratives in this forum about our little sports "wars" pale in comparison to his ground-breaking accounts of the Persian wars in the fifth century BC, but thanks.  lol  I can tell by your references that you are truly a student of the art of war throughout all eras.  Bravo!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 09, 2007, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 09, 2007, 03:46:34 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 09, 2007, 01:31:29 PM
That was one of you better ones professor. You truly are a Herodotus (sp) ;)
Your spelling of Greek historian Herodotus is spot on, abnrgr.  My narratives in this forum about our little sports "wars" pale in comparison to his ground-breaking accounts of the Persian wars in the fifth century BC, but thanks.  lol  I can tell by your references that you are truly a student of the art of war throughout all eras.  Bravo!

I used to enjoy all that history stuff, but I think the only war I know of right now is the one from Larry the Cable Guy.  You know the one that was a movie.  ;D

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 10, 2007, 08:51:41 AM
ya'll are wrong about Plimpton......he was a qb for the Lions!!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 10, 2007, 09:48:22 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 10, 2007, 08:51:41 AM
ya'll are wrong about Plimpton......he was a qb for the Lions!!   ;D ;D
The Paper Lion was a lot of things!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 11, 2007, 01:05:53 AM
Hasa: Arrrrggg.....matey you be right.

Sorry.... I saw Johnny Depp once too many times this month
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 11, 2007, 05:49:03 AM
ABN...Now you're speaking my language  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 11, 2007, 08:19:14 AM
You know Christopher Newport was in a commerical this weekend.  Well not the university, but the explorer was in a commercial.  It was a commerical about visiting Jamestown.

It threw me of because they used a college kid to do the commerical.  He wore a CNU colored T-shirt that said "Thank you, Christopher Newport." I thought it was a commerical about colleges.  CNU recieved some free advertising from it I think.  Any idiot that doesn't know who Christopher Newport is, is likely to google it.  First page 5 of the 10 entries are CNU links. (I was that idiot at one time until I started following the USASouth.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 11, 2007, 09:16:25 AM
I am going to post this on the ODAC board as well as USASouth.  I decided to reorganize the ODAC and the USASouth (Football Only) here is what I came up with.

NEW USASouth

Averett
Emory and Henry
Ferrum
Greensboro
Guilford
Maryvile
Methodist
North Carolina Wesleyan

New ODAC
Bridgewater (VA)
Catholic
Christopher Newport
Gallaudet
Hampden Syndey
Shenadoah
Washington and Lee
Randolph Macon

This is just something fun.  Just having Guilford in the same conference makes the "rivalary" that much more important.

This gives USASouth a chance to win the conference without CNU at the top. Also gives CNU a chance not to win the conference.

This cuts the travel time for Maryville as well. Actually a bunch of schools as well.

Gives USASouth 4 NC teams and 4 VA.

Gives ODAC all VA Teams.

A rivalary could start between Catholic and Gallaudet.

What would the conference outlook be if this were truly the conferences?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 11, 2007, 11:53:01 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 11, 2007, 08:19:14 AMYou know Christopher Newport was in a commerical (sic) this weekend.  Well (,) not the university, but the explorer was in a commercial.  It was a commerical (sic) about visiting Jamestown.

It threw me of (sic) because they used a college kid to do the commerical (sic). He wore a CNU colored T-shirt that said (,) "Thank you, Christopher Newport." I thought it was a commerical (sic) about colleges.  CNU recieved (sic) some free advertising from it (,) I think.  Any idiot that doesn't know who Christopher Newport is, is likely to google it (him).  First page (,) 5 of the 10 entries are CNU links. (I was that idiot at one time until I started following the USASouth.)
Pride, time to elevate your game.  The commercial was about Jamestown, but, sadly, this post was about a college.  You should google Strunk & White or open this Wikipedia link:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Style.  Good writing is hard work, but well worth the effort - think of it the same way as a championship team that sweats the details in every practice.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 11, 2007, 01:24:03 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 11, 2007, 11:53:01 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 11, 2007, 08:19:14 AMYou know Christopher Newport was in a commerical (sic) this weekend.  Well (,) not the university, but the explorer was in a commercial.  It was a commerical (sic) about visiting Jamestown.

It threw me of (sic) because they used a college kid to do the commerical (sic). He wore a CNU colored T-shirt that said (,) "Thank you, Christopher Newport." I thought it was a commerical (sic) about colleges.  CNU recieved (sic) some free advertising from it (,) I think.  Any idiot that doesn't know who Christopher Newport is, is likely to google it (him).  First page (,) 5 of the 10 entries are CNU links. (I was that idiot at one time until I started following the USASouth.)
Pride, time to elevate your game.  The commercial was about Jamestown, but, sadly, this post was about a college.  You should google Strunk & White or open this Wikipedia link:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Style.  Good writing is hard work, but well worth the effort - think of it the same way as a championship team that sweats the details in every practice.  :)

I often use too many comma's, so thank you for letting me know I need to add more.

I seriously think I have typing dyslexia.  You ask me to spell out commercial I could spell it out fine easily (Commerce -e +ial)

Plus you caught me in the morning, I think if you look at all my posts and look to see where most of my errors have occured, you will see they happen more often in the morning.

What is the price for that book?

My writing is fine, but only when I take the time to put an effort into it.  I clearly could be doing more during the day than posting on here so my effort isn't always shown on here.

However I wouldn't use google or wikipedia to do research.  That clearly is what you have asked me to do.  Any research must be peer reviewed wikipedia may have great stuff, but in terms or research it would not be an acceptable source.

Most other research items are your standard books, newspapers,journals and encyclopedias.

I do have you to thank Mr Nova, since I started posting on here my writing has improved.  As long as you continue to post, and continue to correct my grammar, I won't need to get that book.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 11, 2007, 01:51:22 PM
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 11, 2007, 01:59:13 PM
Pride, I'm not necessarily asking you to add more commas, but I am asking you to put them where they belong so your sentences are easier to read and have more clarity.  Regarding possible dyslexia and morning posts:  ask a doctor and don't write before noon.  :)   The Elements of  Style by Strunk & White has been a college writing staple for about 50 years and has gone through several updates.  It's a relatively inexpensive paperback - probably around $8  - and is well worth the money.  Any reputable mainstream bookstore will know it well.  We can all improve our writing, so don't be lulled into complacency.  I wasn't "clearly" telling you to use Wikipedia - I merely suggested you use the link I had already read and found to be reasonably accurate.  Use any research source you want - just do research!  You're welcome, but trust me, I do not correct all your - or anyone else's - posts.  I am not motivated in that way and I simply do not have that much time and energy.  I do, however, feel compelled to encourage you to attain a higher level from time to time, especially when a post is particularly egregious.  I just want you to get some of these things straight before your résumé lands on my desk in a few more years.  :)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 11, 2007, 02:16:23 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 11, 2007, 01:24:03 PMYou ask me to spell out commercial I could spell it out fine easily (Commerce -e +ial)
instant classic
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 11, 2007, 04:05:19 PM
Sounds like you guys have missed some of my late night (alcohol induced coma) tirades. Narch and Papi can attest to them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 11, 2007, 04:06:59 PM
Quote from: narch on June 11, 2007, 02:16:23 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 11, 2007, 01:24:03 PMYou ask me to spell out commercial I could spell it out fine easily (Commerce -e +ial)
instant classic
Hooked on Phonics (Phone -e + ics).  I see the math parallel.  :)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 11, 2007, 06:44:53 PM
Pride...sometimes it is just better to "Stop, Think, and then Type."  If that does not work just "Stop, Think, and Stop again."  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Big Scream on June 11, 2007, 06:52:45 PM
I am replying to a post that said GC should be scared of Gallaudet.  That is a travesty.  Your fear is that the entire Maryland School for the Deaf is going to commit to Gallaudet and nock off the mighty Pride in their white unis whether home or away???  If these kids are so good why aren't they at DeMatha or at another private school in the area?  Or at public school for that sense.  Assistive technology and special education allow for deaf students to have meaningful educations in the least restrictive setting.  Do a little research and then you will realize...
Pride 447 Bison 2
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 11, 2007, 07:41:29 PM
Quote from: Big Scream on June 11, 2007, 06:52:45 PM
I am replying to a post that said GC should be scared of Gallaudet.  That is a travesty.  Your fear is that the entire Maryland School for the Deaf is going to commit to Gallaudet and nock off the mighty Pride in their white unis whether home or away???  If these kids are so good why aren't they at DeMatha or at another private school in the area?  Or at public school for that sense.  Assistive technology and special education allow for deaf students to have meaningful educations in the least restrictive setting.  Do a little research and then you will realize...
Pride 447 Bison 2

Oh I don't think we will lose, but I do think WCLegacy shouldn't put a huge spread on the game.  GC has the tendency to give programs thier first win.  I wonder if it will be the case after an 11 year absence.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 11, 2007, 07:44:51 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on June 11, 2007, 06:44:53 PM
Pride...sometimes it is just better to "Stop, Think, and then Type."  If that does not work just "Stop, Think, and Stop again."  ;)

admiralpapi-

Yes I have to be a dyslexic typer because I often "type, think, then stop"  ;D

You still owe me a drink from when Greensboro beating Methodist.  I haven't forgoten that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 12, 2007, 03:33:12 AM
Painting 447   Mosher 9

I lost.

Really..Never going to paint again . 

COMA'S!

You guys seem to be going through some mid life criseeese.  Jeeze.

Sidenote;  My college roomate and former Pride player Gradiegh Lowe is in Baghdad for a year.  Are there any other former or current players serving in the hot zones?  Just curious!

Commas...Man, you guys are crazy,

Roll Pride,



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 12, 2007, 06:01:15 AM
Pride...Whenever you are down my way I'll buy you that drink, I could buy it for you in Greensboro but the scenery is so much better in Wilmington (just ask Narch).

Mosh, there have been quite a few Methodist guys over the past few years that have been or who are still in hot zones.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 12, 2007, 08:34:52 AM
abnrgr - i've noticed your comma tirades, but i choose not to point them out because you're a little unstable and you have the ability to hunt me down and kill me in at least 50 different ways...i'm trying to stay on your good side...that and the fact that you've got the only known picture of me in those leather chaps which you could hold over my head...if that photo ever made it onto these boards my reputation would be ruined

pride - papi's right...wilmington > greensboro
(since you're good with math, i thought i would use an equation rather than "spell it out fine easily")
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 12, 2007, 08:40:18 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on June 12, 2007, 03:33:12 AM

Commas...Man, you guys are crazy,

Roll Pride,


you shouldn't end a sentence with a comma...... ;D :D :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 12, 2007, 09:13:17 AM
Quote from: narch on June 11, 2007, 02:16:23 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 11, 2007, 01:24:03 PMYou ask me to spell out commercial I could spell it out fine easily (Commerce -e +ial)
instant classic

I want you to clarify your definition of "Instant Classic"

Instant Classic for me is something that one would be willing to hear/see/do etc again.  Examples of Instant Classics:

The last two Souper Bowls of GC vs GC
Maryland vs Duke at MD where MD blew a 10 point lead in the las tminute of the game (Basketball)

Jan 8th 1997 Maryland vs  North Carolina at Carolina.  Carolina had a 22pt lead at halftime blew the lead and lost by 10 points. (Always been a MD fan, but that was the game I became a diehard fan.)


VA beating FL St in football.

So Narch, what is an instant classic?

Give some of your instant classics?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 10:08:36 AM
Pride, with all due respect, I agree with narch.  Many of your posts are "Instant Classics" the, well, "instant" you hit the "Post" option.  They're sort of like terrible accidents on the freeway - you hope no one is injured, but you have to look.  That's what makes them so fascinating - we can't make up this stuff and we never know when they're going to happen!  Keep 'em coming! 

All kidding aside, Greensboro should have no problem with Gallaudet.  If you do, you're in for a long season.  I once heard that Gallaudet uses a drum cadence from the sideline at the line of scrimmage to let the offensive guys know when the ball will be snapped.  Is this true or simply urban legend?

   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 10:10:15 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 12, 2007, 08:40:18 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on June 12, 2007, 03:33:12 AM

Commas...Man, you guys are crazy,

Roll Pride,


you shouldn't end a sentence with a comma...... ;D :D :P
... or begin a sentence in a coma .... :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 12, 2007, 11:05:33 AM
Quote from: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 10:08:36 AM
Pride, with all due respect, I agree with narch.  Many of your posts are "Instant Classics" the, well, "instant" you hit the "Post" option.  They're sort of like terrible accidents on the freeway - you hope no one is injured, but you have to look.  That's what makes them so fascinating - we can't make up this stuff and we never know when they're going to happen!  Keep 'em coming! 

All kidding aside, Greensboro should have no problem with Gallaudet.  If you do, you're in for a long season.  I once heard that Gallaudet uses a drum cadence from the sideline at the line of scrimmage to let the offensive guys know when the ball will be snapped.  Is this true or simply urban legend?

   

"Pride, with all due respect, I agree with narch.  Many of your posts are "Instant Classics" the, well, "instant" you hit the "Post" option."

I get that part, but I don't understand how it compares to a terrible accident. I usually to a good job of determining analogies but this one has gotten the best of me.  Are you saying the posts are so tragic like accident, or are you saying that the posts are interesting to the point that you must stop and read and judge them for yourself.

When I make a post on here it is either to get a chuckle, make the board active, or support or not support a post.

The Commercial bit was to get a chuckle.


As for the other part of the post I am not sure if Galluadet does it, but I do know that Maryland School of the Deaf does use a drum.  I would venture a guess that so does Galludet.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on June 12, 2007, 01:14:34 PM
Gallaudet Drum
They did in the past but don't do it as much now.

We played them when I first came here (fall of 2000) and they did and as time passed, the use of the drum slowly faded away.

When we played them in our JV game this year they did it sparingly if at all.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 12, 2007, 01:42:03 PM
pride - i think 'nova's analogy is spot on...most of your posts are a wreck, but i can't stop looking at them - seeing how deeply our educational system has failed you is incredibly interesting

an "instant classic" pridesportbballguy post is one that wraps up everything that your posts stand for...this particular post had an example of poor spelling, terrible grammar and a flawed math equation...all requisite ingredients for an "instant classic"- while some may argue that it does not contain the "then/than" transposition and cannot be considered classic, i would counter that this practice is not confined to pridesportbballguy, and therefore is not required of a psbbg classic

the beautiful thing is that you just don't get it...you're concentrating on the "Commerce -e +ial" portion of the post, when in actuality, the "I could spell it out fine easily" portion of the post is what truly defines this particular piece and makes it the fantastic example that it is - that phrase should immediately be inducted into the d3sports.com phrase hall of fame - i've used it at least 3 times today alone...it's classic pridesportbballguy
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 12, 2007, 01:52:34 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 10:08:36 AM
I once heard that Gallaudet uses a drum cadence from the sideline at the line of scrimmage to let the offensive guys know when the ball will be snapped.  Is this true or simply urban legend?

100% true.

Though sometimes they will go on a two-drum count and sometimes on a silent count.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 12, 2007, 02:02:58 PM
Quote from: narch on June 12, 2007, 01:42:03 PM
pride - i think 'nova's analogy is spot on...most of your posts are a wreck, but i can't stop looking at them - seeing how deeply our educational system has failed you is incredibly interesting

That hit me hard Narch. I will disagree, because what I put on here is much different than what I put out in the real world, (This is just the internet world).  My resume's have been great and I have never had any rejections. My work is done on time/ahead of time. I have held leaderships postitions since I was 11 years old. You are judging me on what I post on here.  You haven't met me.  I have worked hard to be where I am now.  I am the first of my family to go to college. That is where you guys don't get it. I take criticism better than anybody you know. (Otherwise I would have stopped a long time ago on here)  I will not stand for a clear attack of my educational background. (It must be an attack, because you didn't leave your signature sarcasm smiley). I may have disagreed with, but I have never judged you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 05:58:17 PM
Pride,

Whether you know it or not, we're actually trying to help you.  I've met you and I do like you as a person.  I regularly teach college level courses, however, and I can tell you without fear of contradiction from any other academic that your writing is not what I expect from a college student.  It's not a personal attack, Pride, it's simply a fact.  You say you write on the internet one way (and I recognize the rules are much looser), but turn out flawless, logical prose on all your assignments.  Sorry, I'm not buying it.  If someone can write well, it shows even in a grocery list!

I, like you, was the first person in my family to go to college.  Heck, the first time I ever lived anywhere with indoor plumbing was when I moved in English Hall at Guilford College as an 18 year old freshman!  Somewhat unlike you, however, when I read something new or hear something I've never heard before, I file it away and never forgot it.  All we're trying to do is spur you to evolve and be a better writer!  If you introspectively listen, you'll eventually thank us for it.  If not, you and possibly your mother will be the only ones who think you write well.   My Mom thought I was a good writer, but Dr. Morton gave me a C on my first college paper.  Actually, in hindsight, they were both too generous!

I'm still looking forward to that burger next fall, but I have nothing more to say on this subject.  A karma for you to remind you to research and proof.  Good luck and good writing.  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 12, 2007, 06:05:34 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 05:58:17 PM
Heck, the first time I ever lived anywhere with indoor plumbing was when I moved in English Hall at Guilford College as an 18 year old freshman!

Whoa ... that's dating yourself a tad. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 12, 2007, 06:57:54 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 10:08:36 AM
...I once heard that Gallaudet uses a drum cadence from the sideline at the line of scrimmage to let the offensive guys know when the ball will be snapped.  Is this true or simply urban legend?
 

SU played Gallaudet two years ago as a JV game.  Watching the plays unfold while they used the drum was quite a unique experience.  Found myself rooting for the GU team after a while.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 12, 2007, 09:24:01 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 12, 2007, 02:02:58 PMYou are judging me on what I post on here. 
i'm actually judging the way our educational system has failed you, not you as a person...if you want to take it personally, use my criticism as motivation to improve...

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 12, 2007, 02:02:58 PMYou haven't met me.  I have worked hard to be where I am now.  I am the first of my family to go to college.
congrats, and join the club...i come from a large family (i have over 35 first cousins, and over 50 first & second cousins) and i am still, to this day, the only person in my entire family, extended or otherwise, to get a 4 year  degree...hell, i was the first in my family to even apply to a college (i've since had a brother and a cousin who attended some college, but neither finished their degree) - my parents both got GED's and many of my aunts/uncles/cousins didn't even go that far...being a first generation college student is not an excuse for poor writing...sorry, it just isn't

and if greensboro loses to gallaudet, they should be kicked out of the usasac...from a football standpoint, that would be a bad loss :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 10:10:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 12, 2007, 06:05:34 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 05:58:17 PM
Heck, the first time I ever lived anywhere with indoor plumbing was when I moved in English Hall at Guilford College as an 18 year old freshman!
Whoa ... that's dating yourself a tad. :)
Yeah, Pat, I know, but it wasn't as long ago as you might think.  lol  I entered college in 1970.  To be honest, 95% of the people in the farming community in which I grew up did have running water and bathrooms by that time, but my family did not.  If you want to know what my life was like in the 50's,  60's and early 70's, just watch old reruns of The Waltons.  :)   My siblings and I beat the odds and got a good education, so it can be done - you've just got to want it enough to go get it.  In fact, between the five of us, we have one Associate's degree, four Bachelor's degrees, four Master's degrees and one PhD.  Lest you think it's all Cupcake U., try Guilford, NC State, Duke, UNC-Chapel Hill, the University of South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Salem College and Cambridge (yes, the one in England).  Forgive me, then, if I tell young students, "If you want it, make it happen."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WLU78 on June 12, 2007, 10:15:26 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 10:10:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 12, 2007, 06:05:34 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 05:58:17 PM
Heck, the first time I ever lived anywhere with indoor plumbing was when I moved in English Hall at Guilford College as an 18 year old freshman!
Whoa ... that's dating yourself a tad. :)
Yeah, Pat, I know, but it wasn't as long ago as you might think.  lol  I entered college in 1970.  To be honest, 95% of the people in the farming community in which I grew up did have running water and bathrooms by that time, but my family did not.  If you want to know what my life was like in the 50's,  60's and early 70's, just watch old reruns of The Waltons.  :)   My siblings and I beat the odds and got a good education, so it can be done - you've just got to want it enough to go get it.  In fact, between the five of us, we have one Associate's Degree, four Bachelor's degrees, four Master's degrees and one PhD.  Lest you think it's all Cupcake U., try Guilford, NC State, Duke, UNC-Chapel Hill, the University of South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Salem College and Cambridge (yes, the one in England).  Forgive me, then, if I tell young students, "If you want it, make it happen."

Oh Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Somebody cue the "Deliverance" theme music as it fades into Purcell..................
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 12, 2007, 10:29:22 PM
Let me catch up.  I will try to keep it as brief as I can.  Nova, I cook burgers one way, cooked.  I might have to brew up my 3 generations sloppy joe.  It is the best in America, I think.  I never said my writing was perfect, but it is better everywhere else, except the internet.  I wouldn't say flawless, because writing papers I have more comma errors than anything else.  I will have to e-mail you one of my papers and you will see the difference I am talking about. If this was a post of public speaking then I would not fail. I have taken 2 years in high school and a semester and have never gotten anything below an A. To add to my writing ability I have only used Greensboro's writing tutor once and she told me, I would never have to see her again.

If greenboro loses to galluadet then yess they deserve to be kicked out, unless galluadet ends up with a 10-0 record  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 10:33:47 PM
Hey, WLU78 - Easy to joke about, but don't judge me unless you walked a few miles in my shoes.  :)  Do some research on the socio-economic, educational and agricultural aspects of Patrick County, VA during this era and you'll see what I mean.  I'm sure a great Virginia university such as W&L has an extensive collection of research materials on Appalachia.  To your point, it really wasn't that different from some of the scenes in Deliverance, especially during the decade you swept the local Ned Beatty look-alike and pig-squealing contests.  Blue blood can be from wreath-shaped family trees as well, you know.  Well, I have to go now, my banjo needs tuning.  Purcell died at 36, so there's another lesson about "so much to do and so little time."  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 11:18:31 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 12, 2007, 10:29:22 PM
Let me catch up.  I will try to keep it as brief as I can.  Nova, I cook burgers one way, cooked.  I might have to brew up my 3 generations sloppy joe.  It is the best in America, I think.  I never said my writing was perfect, but it is better everywhere else, except the internet.  I wouldn't say flawless, because writing papers I have more comma errors than anything else.  I will have to e-mail you one of my papers and you will see the difference I am talking about. If this was a post of public speaking then I would not fail. I have taken 2 years in high school and a semester and have never gotten anything below an A. To add to my writing ability I have only used Greensboro's writing tutor once and she told me, I would never have to see her again.

If greenboro loses to galluadet then yess they deserve to be kicked out, unless galluadet ends up with a 10-0 record  :)
Well, Pride, I appreciate the burger and I'll take your word on the tutor's comments.  Also, Gallaudet will not be 10-0.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 12, 2007, 11:23:18 PM
not a comma men.......coma!! I was in a coma.

What the hell were we talking about?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WLU78 on June 13, 2007, 06:38:31 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 12, 2007, 10:29:22 PM
 I never said my writing was perfect, but it is better everywhere else, except the internet.  I wouldn't say flawless, because writing papers I have more comma errors than anything else.

Pride, you messing with Hasa on grammar is like wrestling with a pig in the mud, it gets you nowhere and the pig loves it! :D

So, Fawgetaboutit,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,!

Keep posting away!  Don't let the snarky stuff worry you.  Keep posting.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WLU78 on June 13, 2007, 06:39:33 AM
Quote from: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 10:33:47 PM
Hey, WLU78 - Easy to joke about, but don't judge me unless you walked a few miles in my shoes.  :)

I am shocked!  By your tale of woe I had to assume you had no shoes!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 13, 2007, 06:58:48 AM
Quote from: WLU78 on June 13, 2007, 06:39:33 AM
Quote from: hasanova on June 12, 2007, 10:33:47 PM
Hey, WLU78 - Easy to joke about, but don't judge me unless you walked a few miles in my shoes.  :)
I am shocked!  By your tale of woe I had to assume you had no shoes!
It wasn't a tale of woe, but thanks for the hand-me-down shoes.  After they were deloused and the tassels removed, they were great!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on June 13, 2007, 07:22:21 AM
So any way, now that we have had a literature course on the post page, we all are a little more educated when it comes to writing. Though i admit sometimes i am the same way when it comes to typing and posting on here. I just type what i want to say and never re-read sometimes. It sounds so much better in my head while im saying it, than it does to read it, so NOVA, i understand your pain brother.
       Narch, how does MU look coming in, have you heard of any big name players from the high school coming in. I have word that the Mike Hill is just a rumor, he is fine and he will be back for his season. That is a PLUS. Cant wait to get the season started to come watch a few more games with me living in charlotte, i am closer and now i can bring some recruits down there.
         
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 13, 2007, 08:14:11 AM
Narch and Nova-

BTW FYI I M JW BICBW GMTA....that is what the internet has done to the younger generations like myself. (I do not use that much lingo.)

That sentence is dedicated to you too.  I can translate it, but then there would be no fun in that.  Enjoy.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 13, 2007, 09:46:32 AM
Be on time
Pay attention
Play Like Hell

John Madden

He aint say nuthing about grammar,

Chirp Chirp
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: willierobin on June 13, 2007, 10:00:05 AM



He aint say nuthing about grammar,

Gram-mar...better not say nuthin bout my Gram-mar...she may be 93 years ole but she still can whup all yer be-hinds.
(Sorry,I think it's contagious)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 13, 2007, 11:13:54 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on June 13, 2007, 09:46:32 AM
Be on time
Pay attention
Play Like Hell

John Madden

He aint say nuthing about grammar,

Chirp Chirp

Great if you're a football team. Bad if you're trying to express yourself by writing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 13, 2007, 11:29:04 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 13, 2007, 08:14:11 AM
Narch and Nova-

BTW FYI I M JW BICBW GMTA....that is what the internet has done to the younger generations like myself. (I do not use that much lingo.)

That sentence is dedicated to you too.  I can translate it, but then there would be no fun in that.  Enjoy.  :)
THX NP DQMOT but TNSTAAFL WYSIWYG C U L8R
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 13, 2007, 01:33:35 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on June 13, 2007, 07:22:21 AMNarch, how does MU look coming in, have you heard of any big name players from the high school coming in.

i think the coaching staff is pretty happy with the class to this point - there are a couple of impact players who could see time early, but mostly this class is going to add quality depth - i don't think there is a sure fire guy in the class, but there are a few who will push returners for time and make the monarchs better - i think coach funderburk is as excited about his guys as any of the coaches...there should be some real depth on the ol for the next few years - of course, there is the kicker i talked about earlier who will probably have the inside track for both punting and kicking duties if he performs on this level as he did in high school...you know this, but it's all speculation until you see these guys put on pads and perform on the field - how many guys did you play with who were all-everything in high school that just didn't pan out?  i can think of a few :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 13, 2007, 03:03:30 PM
You can take the milk drinkers and I will take the whisky drinkers any day of the week. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 13, 2007, 03:48:53 PM
,Man (starting a sentence in a coma, with a comma!!), I miss less than 24 hours and now I'm in stitches......my boss is gonna come in here and fire my buttocks, but I can't stop laughing......

Ok - do I get points for:

being the first in my family to go to college, too?

getting an MBA from William and Mary?

living in a trailer park growing up?

buying my tennis shoes as a kid at JM Fields.....2 pair for $5!!!

as an adult, never having rented - moved out of the trailer park with my degree and bought a townhouse - first place I ever lived that was owned by the occupants?

knowing that "There's No Such Thing As A Free Lunch" - that's for you Hasa!!

Oh man - I'm still rolling - I need to scroll back a page that WLU guy said some funny things too....he must've posted his thoughts while going back home in the jet his daddy owns!!!  ;D

Now I'm humming Dueling Banjos!! Why do they call it that when there was just one banjo?

Welcome to d3webefunnyguys.com
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 13, 2007, 03:54:34 PM
Prideguy - I gave you a Karma for being "snarky" - and because that Narch guy has more points than me!!

Thanks everyone for the chuckle this afternoon - I really needed it!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 13, 2007, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on June 13, 2007, 03:03:30 PMYou can take the milk drinkers and I will take the whisky drinkers any day of the week.
mosh - Ernest Hemingway and Edgar Allan Poe were an alcoholic and a drug addict, respectively, so what's your point?  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 13, 2007, 05:03:30 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 13, 2007, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on June 13, 2007, 03:03:30 PMYou can take the milk drinkers and I will take the whisky drinkers any day of the week.
mosh - Ernest Hemingway and Edgar Allan Poe were an alcoholic and a drug addict, respectively, so what's your point?  :)

That reminds me of something I read a few years ago.  There was some article that described three people.  The first two were described as womanizers and alcoholics. The third person was described as the complete opposite. The article then asked, who would you like to have as your president? I believe the two "bad" people were JFK and FDR respectively.  The last person decribed was Hitler. (I know quite a bit of german history, because I took German from 7-12 grade and placed out of it in college. They say Hitler was a hypochondriac.) I wish I could find that article.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 13, 2007, 09:31:06 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 13, 2007, 11:13:54 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on June 13, 2007, 09:46:32 AM
Be on time
Pay attention
Play Like Hell

John Madden

He aint say nuthing about grammar,

Chirp Chirp

Great if you're a football team. Bad if you're trying to express yourself by writing.
Also fine for guys who already earn a living playing football - not so good if your playing days will probably end at 21 years old.  You think a football season is long?  Try the next forty years without a good education.  :)  I love and respect football and scholarship.  Why not be good at both?  Peace 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 13, 2007, 09:41:09 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 13, 2007, 05:03:30 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 13, 2007, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on June 13, 2007, 03:03:30 PMYou can take the milk drinkers and I will take the whisky drinkers any day of the week.
mosh - Ernest Hemingway and Edgar Allan Poe were an alcoholic and a drug addict, respectively, so what's your point?  :)
... They say Hitler was a hypochondriac...
Yes, but was he lactose intolerant?  Got Milch?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 13, 2007, 09:42:59 PM
"The difference between spending time and investing time can impact results dramatically."  -Nick Saban

Saban agrees with you.  I agree with him. 

Im done, you win.

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 13, 2007, 10:21:56 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on June 13, 2007, 09:42:59 PM
"The difference between spending time and investing time can impact results dramatically."  -Nick Saban

Saban agrees with you.  I agree with him. 

Im done, you win.

Roll Pride
I agree, Saban's right.  I agree, Saban should agree with me.  I agree, you should agree with Saban.  I agree, I'm done as well.  I disagree, since there was nothing being contested, how can you win - or lose - something if you weren't playing a game?  Go Quakers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 13, 2007, 11:13:20 PM
Apparently you can still lose your mind without trying!!!! ;D
Quote from: hasanova on June 13, 2007, 10:21:56 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on June 13, 2007, 09:42:59 PM
"The difference between spending time and investing time can impact results dramatically."  -Nick Saban

Saban agrees with you.  I agree with him. 

Im done, you win.

Roll Pride
I agree, Saban's right.  I agree, Saban should agree with me.  I agree, you should agree with Saban.  I agree, I'm done as well.  I disagree, since there was nothing being contested, how can you win - or lose - something if you weren't playing a game?  Go Quakers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 08:30:19 AM
If we are going to start throwing out quotes then this is my all-time favorite.

"There is no elevator to success. You have to take the stairs." Morgan Wotten DeMatha Basketball Coach. (Retired)

Quote from: hasanova on June 13, 2007, 09:41:09 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 13, 2007, 05:03:30 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 13, 2007, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on June 13, 2007, 03:03:30 PMYou can take the milk drinkers and I will take the whisky drinkers any day of the week.
mosh - Ernest Hemingway and Edgar Allan Poe were an alcoholic and a drug addict, respectively, so what's your point?  :)
... They say Hitler was a hypochondriac...
Yes, but was he lactose intolerant?  Got Milch?

haha. :D I don't know how much German you do know and it has been a few years for me.  I believe it would actually be Haben Milch?  It could be Habst Milch?, but that would indicate you know the person you are talking very very well. Haben is used as a form of respect for others.

Note to everyone: I am going to try to put a new signature up everyday until football season starts.  Enjoy  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 14, 2007, 08:47:58 AM
I can't quote famous people....heck I can't even remember what I had for lunch yesterday!! So I'll quote myself - it's what I tell my employees every day - there could be a football analogy (imagine that - football talk - we haven't done that in awhile)

"You can do it, or your replacement will do it"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 14, 2007, 08:49:13 AM
football question....how did the football get it's shape? Did the QA guy at the round ball factory fall asleep?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 14, 2007, 08:49:13 AM
football question....how did the football get it's shape? Did the QA guy at the round ball factory fall asleep?

I thought it was orginally a pig's intestine they blew up and filled with air.  Hence why the football is also called a "pig"skin.  I like your idea much better CNU85.

or was it a pigs stomach.  pigskin would make more sense if it were actually the pigs skin.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on June 14, 2007, 10:13:31 AM
NARCH- I know what you mean. There were some guys i remember my freshman year coming in. One in particular who stood out to me. You come in as a freshman and you feel very intimidated by everyone. Knowing that you just left high school as a senior and now you go back to being the low man on the totum pole so to speak. I laugh now when i look back but this one guy just kept talking about how great he was in high school and what he had done. We kept askign if he had game film, he was like yeah my parents kept them. So we asked him to show it to us and he never did, later we found out why. The day came for oklahoma drills, and hitting and pass pro drills. He runs his mouth to some guys, and finally he goes up against one of the good guys that year, jamaal leggett. Name sound familiar? lol, he absolutley pummled him the guy quit and didnt come back the rest of camp. So i know how it is to see people come in and talk the talk but they cant walk it when it come time.
        Why the heck are we discussing grammar anyways, its like im back in english 101 again!!

Mosher- Hey man, we just got word that we may be loosing a history teacher, we wont know until he interviews up north. If thats the case you are the first on coaches list buddy. Im trying to help and push the issue, we just got to wait and see. I will let you know as soon as i hear something so he can get you down here. If your still interested in the d-c spot?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 14, 2007, 10:24:59 AM
MC Ftbl51

Let me know when they pull the trigger.

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 14, 2007, 11:29:06 AM
Pride - I only wrote "milk" in German, hence the reason milch was italicized and "got" wasn't.

OK, back to football.  If any of you Methodist guys are going to be at the Guilford game in Fayetteville on Sept. 8, let me know.  I've already met narch last winter at a basketball game, but also welcome the opportunity to meet others.  It's hard for me to assess Guilford's passing game this season with several key receivers lost due to graduation, but it should be a good game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 01:07:08 PM
So what are the players that graduted of the USASouth doing this summer.  I know there are several in the indoor football leagues.  What is the word?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WLU78 on June 14, 2007, 04:02:58 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on June 13, 2007, 09:42:59 PM
"The difference between spending time and investing time can impact results dramatically."  -Nick Saban

"The difference between being interested and being committed is a lot like a ham and egg breakfast, the chicken is interested, but the pig is committed." :) :) :) :)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 14, 2007, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 01:07:08 PM
So what are the players that graduted of the USASouth doing this summer.  I know there are several in the indoor football leagues.  What is the word?

They're still hung over!! At least I hope they are - take a few months and have fun before things like mortgages, diapers, jobs, etc kick in - reality sucks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 14, 2007, 05:02:51 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 14, 2007, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 01:07:08 PM
So what are the players that graduted of the USASouth doing this summer.  I know there are several in the indoor football leagues.  What is the word?

They're still hung over!! At least I hope they are - take a few months and have fun before things like mortgages, diapers, jobs, etc kick in - reality sucks!

Amen brother.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 14, 2007, 05:23:14 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 14, 2007, 05:02:51 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 14, 2007, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 01:07:08 PM
So what are the players that graduted of the USASouth doing this summer.  I know there are several in the indoor football leagues.  What is the word?

They're still hung over!! At least I hope they are - take a few months and have fun before things like mortgages, diapers, jobs, etc kick in - reality sucks!

Amen brother.

Or when you get old like me...stresses such as taking the car away from my youngest child, stressing out over the kids' high school exams, dating, school lock downs, etc........

hey - I spoke to a player the other day......looks like another exciting season coming up.

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 14, 2007, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on June 14, 2007, 10:13:31 AM

        Why the heck are we discussing grammar anyways, its like im back in english 101 again!!

Mosher- Hey man, we just got word that we may be loosing a history teacher


Narch - does this qualify as an "instant classic"?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 14, 2007, 09:27:34 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 14, 2007, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on June 14, 2007, 10:13:31 AM

        Why the heck are we discussing grammar anyways, its like im back in english 101 again!!

Mosher- Hey man, we just got word that we may be loosing a history teacher


Narch - does this qualify as an "instant classic"?

Only if there is some type of Delphic formula involved.  Hence PSBBG's stranglehold on the "instant classic" genre.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 14, 2007, 09:30:47 PM
CNU85 - what's the word on CNU reloading on offense for the coming year? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 14, 2007, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 14, 2007, 09:27:34 PM
Only if there is some type of Delphic formula involved. 
outstanding...delphic is such a great word, although i'm wondering if it should be capitalized in this usage?  is it one of those words that can go either way?  nova...we need a ruling here :)

even if it isn't supposed to be capitalized, i'm giving you +1 karma for exposing at least one person to a word they haven't ever seen before
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 14, 2007, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 14, 2007, 05:25:03 PM
Narch - does this qualify as an "instant classic"?
'85 - you know i don't point out the mistakes in monarch fan's posts...these green and gold goggles prevent it

what's wrong with that post, anyways...i mean, there's no sense loosing any sleep over it :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 14, 2007, 10:58:50 PM
Quote from: narch on June 14, 2007, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 14, 2007, 09:27:34 PM
Only if there is some type of Delphic formula involved. 
outstanding...delphic is such a great word, although i'm wondering if it should be capitalized in this usage?  is it one of those words that can go either way?  nova...we need a ruling here :)

even if it isn't supposed to be capitalized, i'm giving you +1 karma for exposing at least one person to a word they haven't ever seen before
Capitalized, although he could have also used Delphian.  First down, SU97!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 14, 2007, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: narch on June 14, 2007, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 14, 2007, 05:25:03 PM
Narch - does this qualify as an "instant classic"?
'85 - you know i don't point out the mistakes in monarch fan's posts...these green and gold goggles prevent it

what's wrong with that post, anyways...i mean, there's no sense loosing any sleep over it :)
Besides the eight issues I note, I thought it was great!  But hey, who's counting?  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 11:10:38 PM
I went to answers.com, looking for some answers, and I couldn't find the answer I was looking for.

I wanted to know who was going to win the USASouth this year and the website couldn't tell me, so I though I left answers.com thwarted.

I was wrong I found out two other things.  Well one other thing and something else that got me thinking about something else.

to clearly anwser CNU85's question about the football read this:

Raw Materials

In the early stages of the game of football, a pig's bladder was inflated and used as the ball. By comparison, today's football is an inflated rubber bladder enclosed in a pebble-grained leather cover or cowhide. This material is used because it is both durable and easily tanned. (www.anwsers.com)

I say we call the old pigskin cowskin, NOT!

this next part got me thinking read this:

The game remained strictly a kicking game until American collegians blended soccer with rugby. In 1874, McGill University (Montreal, Canada) engaged Harvard University (Cambridge, Massachusetts) in two sports games. One game was played with Canadian rugby rules, which allowed players to run with the ball, as well as throw it. The other game followed U.S. soccer rules, which restricted players to only kicking the ball.

It seemed that Harvard preferred elements of both games and introduced them to Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut. Two years later, representatives from Harvard and Yale met in Massachusetts to create guidelines for this new game of football. Another new twist to the game was that it was played with an oval-shaped ball (Awsers.com)

So why aren't they, Harvard or Yale, the national champs every year?

My guess is the same reason why some people feel that Notre Dame will never be like the dynasty they once were, ACADEMIC STANDARDS.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 14, 2007, 11:17:05 PM
Pride, I think it's pretty well documented that the first intercollegiate football game (in a form we would recognize today) was held in 1869 between Princeton and Rutgers, so I'm not sure about the 1874 reference in "Awsers.com".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 11:29:15 PM
Well I just found this one:

http://www.athletics.mcgill.ca/varsity_sports_article.ch2?article_id=2161

Maybe or Maybe not.

excerpt from article

Added: If you follow that link it will show where it orginally appeared:


http://www.footballresearch.com/articles/frpage.cfm?topic=c-to1870

Excerpt from article refering to the Princeton-Rutgers game.

The contest is usually called the first intercollegiate football game. American fans celebrated football's centennial in 1969. They were mistaken. The game played was not American football, nor even its more direct ancestor rugby. Rutgers' historic victory was in soccer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 15, 2007, 09:01:38 AM
Karma for Prideguy.....he set a personal record....most consecutive posts without a weird formula that nobody understands!!!

Interesting banter about the origins of football. I spent some time yesterday on the NFL.com website and looked at the history and old standings....and learned a ton of stuff I never knew. Such as - Boston had a pro team (not NFL) called the Yankees!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 15, 2007, 09:19:20 AM
Maybe everyone got the curse wrong and in fact it was the Boston Yankees that caused the curse all those years.

Thank you for the Karma.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 15, 2007, 09:21:29 AM
ok...another football issue I'd like to hear opinions about:

Every level of College football decides a National Champion on the field, save division 1A. Some say it's due to the Bowl structure and the big bucks that are brought in from those bowl games. I say Phooey!! I cannot watch or follow D1A football.  To decide a champion based on polls and computer models (sorry Prideguy) is no better than figure skating or gymnastics (and my daughter is an all-distrcit gymnast in HS). I say it can be done and it can be done profitably. The problem is that there is nobody in charge with the vision to get it done (such as a Pete Rozelle). How can anyone get hyped up over a bowl game that is played 40 days after the last game played by the teams? The entire bowl structure is nonsense and not good for football. D1A has sold out to the bucks and are not creative or bold enough to figure out that they can bring integrity back to their sport and still make money.

Fill those weeks of no football with playoff games - sponsors can line up for regional championship games. I'm sure Outback would fork up (good pun) similar money to sponsor a South Regional championship game as they do for the Bloomin' Onion Bowl.

Anyway - just my thoughts - I'd love to hear others. Soon enough we will be chatting about how far do we think CNU will advance in the playoffs!!  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 15, 2007, 09:48:13 AM
CNU85-

I don't like the BCS formula. I have never liked the BCS formula. I would be willing to work with an alternative.  I don't think teams should be left out if they are not from a major conference.  I want the playoff system.  If NCAA is so worried about the Money have the companies that sponsor bowl games sponsor rounds.  In my mind problem solved.

The  BCS:  My biggest problem with the BCS is Notre Dame. They lost against big name teams BAD all year long and there was no reason they should have continued to be so high.  I think those that follow the D1 are more interested in match-ups then team ability. The BCS puts to much emphasis on poll rankings and not enough on the team as a whole.  (As I try to do with my rankings.  I look only at stats.)

As for DIII if I had a few investment partners I would want to create a ECAC for the south. Call it something like SSISAC (Southern Schools Intercollegiate Sports Athletic Conference.) It would be much harder because the distance between the schools is much greater than in ECAC.  I would create one bowl game for the ODAC-USASouth and call it the Dixie Bowl.  (Might even try ot get Dixie cups to sponsor it  :D)  That way we could make money like d1 does.  :)

Just Added:  Have a bowl game between ASC and SCAC and call it the Ralph Turner Bowl  :)

A third would be the top schools not getting the AQ from the the USASouth, ASC, SCAC, ODAC.  To be the Southern Bowl.

The three bowls mentioned would be the top Bowls for the South.  Plus a couple of more bowls
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 15, 2007, 05:38:13 PM
Irish............insufferable

Narch quote at Greensboro college coed dorm........

"and could you get some dates for my friends"

A kiln explosion is a tough thing
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on June 17, 2007, 10:37:33 AM
I agree with everyone, i do nto like the BCS system. I know it brings in money and all this other stuff, but face it, thats nto a real championship game. I have not been happy since the year Auburn went undefeated and di not play for the national title. Then i thought it needed to be changed. Here is what they could do:
     At the end of the season, play the conference championship games and find the winners. Place them into brackets just liek basketball and give 4 regions and 4 number one seeds. You would only need about 8 games in each region, which would put it at 32 teams. PLay that first week on thursday and saturday. Next week play the 6 games and so forth till you get to the naional title game. That would take care of the whole month you wait between games to play. The next thing to keep money pouring in, is each game could be sponsored by someone, then when it got to the elite 8 from there on, it could be the bowl games just the same. Still have the outback bowl but let it be for a regional team. I think they actually would make more money doing it this way. Then the national title game could still switch every year and be the fiesta bow, or the sugar bowl and so forth. I think that system would work pretty good.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 17, 2007, 10:56:44 AM
I think 32 teams is a bit much.  I would love to see 8 teams play in a playoff system though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 17, 2007, 12:52:14 PM
I think 32 teams is too much as well.  I think 16 is a good number.  Let all the conferences play.  11 conferences and then 5 at large bids. Like I said each round has a sponsor if they are so worried about the money. That is total of 15 games. That would leave 17 bowl game sponsors unhappy.

I say oh well.  There are too many bowl games as it is.  If you want to keep them happy let the other bowl games happen.  I would say 15 more bowl games at the most. I think sponsoring a playoff system could bring in more money, just because to keep winning actually means something.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on June 17, 2007, 01:51:37 PM
Why not rotate the playoffs thru the bowls? You rotate the bowls to different rounds each year...  You can still have your minor bowl games for the teams that are (six win) eligible
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 17, 2007, 05:37:14 PM
i'd settle for a "plus one" game...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 17, 2007, 09:37:21 PM
Or we could just eliminate the Mineike, Carquest.com, super 8, walmart, progressive insurance, mcdonalds, hardees, burger king bowl game.  I swear it takes longer to say the name of the Bowl Games now than it does to play them.

On another note...I was at the Big Rock Blue Marlin tournament weigh in when "Bak Bar" brought in a 613 pound blue marlin to win the tournament.  The angler fought the fish for nearly 6 straight hours...now that's what I call a fight.

Narch, we've been catching the heck out of your kind of blues down here...when you gonna come out for a trip?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 17, 2007, 10:35:41 PM
Papi
catching Blues eh? Using a USCG assault craft I bet. 60 knots, slam the brakes on, drop demo, back to 60, then haul in the bodies. That's not fishing.

I have to go way up the coast (NE) in a couple of weeks.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WLU78 on June 18, 2007, 01:27:36 PM
With the D1 schedule now up to 12 games, plus the bowl game it makes for a long season for the players.

Here is my suggestion: Go back to 10 games for everybody.  Have a 16 team play-off and the winner and runner up will have played 14 games.  If you don't qualify for the play-offs you can go to the "Buds Auto Parts" Bowl against STATE A&M.  Then eveybody gets what they want, a true champion, plenty of TV revenue, everybody can be in a bowl game, and evey chamber of commerce can host a bowl game if they want to.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 18, 2007, 04:44:48 PM
ABN...You mean I'm not supposed to use concussion grenades to fish with??? :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 18, 2007, 04:53:09 PM
Quote from: WLU78 on June 18, 2007, 01:27:36 PM
With the D1 schedule now up to 12 games, plus the bowl game it makes for a long season for the players.

Here is my suggestion: Go back to 10 games for everybody.  Have a 16 team play-off and the winner and runner up will have played 14 games.  If you don't qualify for the play-offs you can go to the "Buds Auto Parts" Bowl against STATE A&M.  Then eveybody gets what they want, a true champion, plenty of TV revenue, everybody can be in a bowl game, and evey chamber of commerce can host a bowl game if they want to.

this plan doesn't account for lost gate receipt for one or two games, though...this would have a big impact on any team that is not bowl or playoff eligible...

papi - i saw a 106 lb big-eye tuna caught in the pirates cove tuna round-up a few weeks ago...that's a lot of tuna steak, my friend...i may be heading your way for a long weekend soon...i'll let you know
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 18, 2007, 05:02:26 PM
Quote from: narch on June 18, 2007, 04:53:09 PM
Quote from: WLU78 on June 18, 2007, 01:27:36 PM
With the D1 schedule now up to 12 games, plus the bowl game it makes for a long season for the players.

Here is my suggestion: Go back to 10 games for everybody.  Have a 16 team play-off and the winner and runner up will have played 14 games.  If you don't qualify for the play-offs you can go to the "Buds Auto Parts" Bowl against STATE A&M.  Then eveybody gets what they want, a true champion, plenty of TV revenue, everybody can be in a bowl game, and evey chamber of commerce can host a bowl game if they want to.

this plan doesn't account for lost gate receipt for one or two games, though...this would have a big impact on any team that is not bowl or playoff eligible...

You took my answer Narch.  It is all about the money.  Teams use those D-IAA's (or several) as warm ups to boost them up to bowl eligiblity. A team that might finish 4-6 doesn't deserve a chance to play, but with 12 games and those unworthy foes they get that chance and and DI gets money.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 18, 2007, 05:15:16 PM
Quote from: WLU78 on June 18, 2007, 01:27:36 PM
With the D1 schedule now up to 12 games, plus the bowl game it makes for a long season for the players.

Here is my suggestion: Go back to 10 games for everybody.  Have a 16 team play-off and the winner and runner up will have played 14 games.  If you don't qualify for the play-offs you can go to the "Buds Auto Parts" Bowl against STATE A&M.  Then eveybody gets what they want, a true champion, plenty of TV revenue, everybody can be in a bowl game, and evey chamber of commerce can host a bowl game if they want to.

I like this idea....similar to basketball's NIT. You could even expand the non-playoff bowl scenario to include 5-5 teams....or like the NHL, everybody but the bottom 2 teams get to play in the "post season".  Nobody would watch them (like the NHL and NBA) and that would tell the NCAA something - people don't care about the Big Mac or Whopper Bowl!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WLU78 on June 18, 2007, 05:29:35 PM
Quote from: narch on June 18, 2007, 04:53:09 PM

this plan doesn't account for lost gate receipt for one or two games, though...this would have a big impact on any team that is not bowl or playoff eligible...

Very good point.  I hadn't considered this. 

However, something should be done for the athletes.  I have seen somewhere that the NCAA is now considering 5 year eligibility (plus red shirt and medicals) to compensate for the extra two games.

At one time didn't teams get the extra game if they scheduled Hawaii? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 18, 2007, 05:30:17 PM
I think 11 games is still reasonable.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 18, 2007, 06:46:07 PM
Expanded playoffs would include the HSC's of the world in the playoffs (ala 1999-2003) that won a load of games but lost that one game to the BC's of the world.

Most high schools in NC play that one extra game so 11 games is possible as mentioned.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 18, 2007, 08:24:43 PM
I think 11 games is reasonable, but I wonder what that does to the bowl games. (I already think there are too many bowls, but I think that one extra games makes some teams bowl eligible to cover all the bowls)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 19, 2007, 12:36:06 PM
Here's what I'd ask myself if I was a d1A decision maker......

1. Why does there seem to be an annual debate about bowl games and playoffs?
2. Why is D1A the only level (pro or collegiate) that has a bowl games structure?
3. If the Bowl game concept is such a great and wonderful idea, why doesn't the NFL have a similar structure in place?

Answer - the bowl games structure evolved over time. It's not working today for the vast majority of the fans (unless you are a Notre Dame fan and think the Irish should be in a bowl game even when they finish 3-7 - remember Gerry Faust?). Change of this magnitude is difficult, but not impossible. Courage and vision are required.

Poll time - how many of you think that D1A football will have a playoff system in the next 5 years, 10 years?

my vote - they will have something called a "playoff" and it will make even less sense than the current system. (Time to review my posts for the then/than debate - lest Hasanova pull out his red pen and quill)  :o

Hey Hasanova - I bet you have seizures when you hear Don King speak!!

"What we need to resolve the D1A bowl situation is a solution to the evolution that is causing the pollution in our minds towards the sport we love"

ok- I'm done - I wonder if someone spiked my Pepsi!?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 19, 2007, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 19, 2007, 12:36:06 PM
my vote - they will have something called a "playoff" and it will make even less sense than the current system. (Time to review my posts for the then/than debate - lest Hasanova pull out his red pen and quill)  :o

Hey Hasanova - I bet you have seizures when you hear Don King speak!!
Sorry, CNU85, I don't have a quill.  Besides, I'd rather have a printer cartridge than a bottle of ink.  By the way, I do have an old school desk in my house that I purchased in an antique shop that has an inkwell.  :)  I don't necessarily have seizures when I hear Don King speak, but I do look away when I see his hair!  lol 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 19, 2007, 09:04:46 PM
Anyone else see this link.  I think it is pathetic to make bowl projections this early.  Yet Fox Sports already did.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/6871352

Let's go to the playoff system TODAY.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 20, 2007, 12:38:43 AM
Yea Pride I hear ya Bro.

But on the other hand it cracks the door just a little wider so we peek at the shoulder pads on the shelf. Somebody is going to get hard soon.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 20, 2007, 04:40:18 PM
wow...did you guys see the poll results.....only 6 votes so far.....but scary.....we all have voted the same!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 20, 2007, 04:43:43 PM
I guess by now we have all figured out exactly how D1A works  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 20, 2007, 04:52:42 PM
or else we've been "hanging out" together too long!! :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 20, 2007, 05:10:19 PM
Could be a little of both! 

I've never met most of you but I feel like I've known everyone in here for years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 20, 2007, 05:14:27 PM
Papi-

I sent you an email. It might be in your spam folder! Something you might enjoy!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 20, 2007, 06:27:29 PM
85..........was it pics of Narch?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 20, 2007, 08:28:45 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 20, 2007, 06:27:29 PM
85..........was it pics of Narch?
i personally destroyed the memory card that those photos were on abnrgr...and you should thank me...some of the pics he had of you and that "woman" were pretty incriminating...gave new meaning to "don't ask, don't tell" :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 20, 2007, 11:27:34 PM
Narch
"Do you mean like flaming or the closet"

as you know "I am willing to learn if I can get the job".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 21, 2007, 05:58:06 AM
85...great video!  The guys at the office will enjoy that one!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 21, 2007, 11:07:35 AM
85-

I posted something similar to this over on the ODAC board.

Quote from: CNU85 on June 20, 2007, 04:51:47 PM
Our church has an annual dinner for CNU student-athletes with a GPA over 3.0.

Explain please.  I don't claim to be an expert on ncaa rules but are the athletes getting preferential treatment? Narch any insight? I don't have a problem with the athletes being honored, in fact they should, but what is the rule on this.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 21, 2007, 01:48:40 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 21, 2007, 11:07:35 AMNarch any insight?

i'm shocked that cnu85 goes to church...:)

just kidding, '85...

psbbg...i've got no idea, and i don't much care - even if it was a rules violation, it's secondary in nature and nothing will come of it...hell, guilford used a player that they should have known was ineligible and didn't have to forfeit any games that he played in, so i don't think the ncaa is going to care about a church feeding a group of scholar-athletes
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 21, 2007, 02:03:57 PM
Quote from: narch on June 21, 2007, 01:48:40 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 21, 2007, 11:07:35 AMNarch any insight?

i'm shocked that cnu85 goes to church...:)

just kidding, '85...

psbbg...i've got no idea, and i don't much care - even if it was a rules violation, it's secondary in nature and nothing will come of it...hell, guilford used a player that they should have known was ineligible and didn't have to forfeit any games that he played in, so i don't think the ncaa is going to care about a church feeding a group of scholar-athletes

Man, what does a team have to do these days to get a sanction against them  :)

You can use ineligible players, have a free meal (In CNU's case that meal is well deserved)  What sort of sanctions do D3 schools get, if there is in fact a rules violation. It's not like they can have scholarships revoked.  Has the NCAA gone soft. (I am not even talking d3 now.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 21, 2007, 02:53:54 PM
Although that seems exactly like something the NCAA would get involved in.  Nevermind the bigger issues to worry about, let's make sure some church group is not rewarding a bunch of well-deserving college athletes.

~steps down off soapbox~
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 21, 2007, 02:58:49 PM
Quote from: narch on June 21, 2007, 01:48:40 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 21, 2007, 11:07:35 AMNarch any insight?

i'm shocked that cnu85 goes to church...:)

just kidding, '85...

psbbg...i've got no idea, and i don't much care - even if it was a rules violation, it's secondary in nature and nothing will come of it...hell, guilford used a player that they should have known was ineligible and didn't have to forfeit any games that he played in, so i don't think the ncaa is going to care about a church feeding a group of scholar-athletes
OK, here we go again!  lol  Pride - A guy played a little at E&H and was not honest about having played college football in the past when he approached Guilford about playing.  As soon as Guilford was made aware of the violation, he was removed from the team, dismissed from school for an honor code violation and Guilford reported it to the ODAC and the NCAA.  I'm not sure how Guilford "should have known he was ineligible," but I think they handled it as well as they possibly could have under the circumstances.  The ODAC and the NCAA said none of the four (?) wins in which he appeared would be forfeited, so that was that.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 21, 2007, 03:24:56 PM
nova-

I think, like in Guilford's case, if a school comes foward and reports "any possible violation" the NCAA tends to honor that.

A few years ago, Maryland's football team was faced with a situation, an assistant coach bought a recruit an xbox.  Maryland fired the coach and reported the violation to the NCAA.  NCAA talked about sanctions, but opted against it because they came foward.  The funny part of was the player didn't committ to MD.  He went to Notre Dame.  Plus, that assistant coach was down $200.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 21, 2007, 05:28:24 PM
'nova - that was me that you quoted, not psbbg, and the bottom line is this...guilford had the ability to track his previous enrollment through the national student clearinghouse and they did not...in my opinion, they did not use due diligence prior to enrolling this particular student-athlete, so they can't just wash their hands of the incident and say "it's all his fault for lying on his application" - guilford's actions after the fact are to be commended, but it does not excuse the fact that they used an ineligible player in 4 games (he did not, by the way, play against mu)...personally, i think they should have been held to the exact same standard that shenandoah was the previous year when they used an ineligible player - ineligible is ineligible is ineligible...there is no gray area, if you ask me, and claiming ignorance only works if you have no way of getting the information that you need
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 21, 2007, 05:40:00 PM
actually, we didn't let them eat anything...they just sat at the table with a plate of food and no utensils! :D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 21, 2007, 06:23:49 PM
85...You Virginians must be getting high class now...actually using utensils!!! ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 21, 2007, 11:19:24 PM
Quote from: narch on June 21, 2007, 05:28:24 PM
'nova - that was me that you quoted, not psbbg, and the bottom line is this...guilford had the ability to track his previous enrollment through the national student clearinghouse and they did not...in my opinion, they did not use due diligence prior to enrolling this particular student-athlete, so they can't just wash their hands of the incident and say "it's all his fault for lying on his application" - guilford's actions after the fact are to be commended, but it does not excuse the fact that they used an ineligible player in 4 games (he did not, by the way, play against mu)...personally, i think they should have been held to the exact same standard that shenandoah was the previous year when they used an ineligible player - ineligible is ineligible is ineligible...there is no gray area, if you ask me, and claiming ignorance only works if you have no way of getting the information that you need
Hey narch, good to hear from you.  Yes, I knew it was your quote.  I apologize if that wasn't clear to all who read my post.  I remember we all had a rather lengthy discussion last fall about this issue and, while I will always respect your opinion, I do somewhat disagree.  I do think there are gray areas and, to me, this was one of them.  To your point, perhaps Guilford should have used a clearinghouse, but how many DIII schools do this with every athlete?  I also think it is a completely different situation from the one cited by PSBBF.  In the Maryland case mentioned by PSBBF, if a coach buys an xbox for a recruit, he knew what he was doing.  That's a no-brainer.  I think the major differences here are Guilford would never have allowed this player to participate if they had known his history, he lied and Guilford dealt with it immediately once the situation was discovered.  You may say it's cut and dried, but I say no.

See you on September 8, I hope!

 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on June 22, 2007, 08:22:52 AM
I wouldnt call that a violation though. Every school has a dinner for outstanding athletes who excel through school with a high GPA. However, i do see what you are saying about being treated "special", but it is a subject that if they get into with CNU, then they will have a big pod of things on every school. Ever school does something in that case. It is basically beating a dead horse, and i think they are more worried about the bigger issues as Papi said than this.
        Narch, my senior year, shenandoah also had a kid that was ineligible didnt they at the start and had to forfeit the game at the beginning didnt they? I was not sure what happened, i couldnt remember with that situation.
   Guilford was lazy for taking this guy's word on never playing, the only reason they caught it late was because someone called and told them he had played before and warned them of his attitude. I remember that situation, i had a friend there during that time. They had an insight from someone. If they had not have found out like that, they might not have and then they would have been in bigger trouble.
          Anyways, and news coming into camp for any of the conference. I am ready to watch some football!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 22, 2007, 08:46:16 AM
It doesn't bother me, I wish more was done for scholar athletes.  Every school has something I am sure, but it was a church that held it. Outside of that issue what is the rule on "special treatment"? 

There was that controversy that surrounded UCLA basketball back in thier golden years about that guy that did everything for the players.  If I rememer correctly nothing happenend.

I still think the NCAA has gotten a little soft on issues.  At D1 level, I personally thought that MD should have gotten a sanction at least some sort of fine.  It just seems to be about the money with them up there.

Again I agree with narch if a player is ineligble the player is ineligble. 4 games is too many games to realize thier is an ineligble player on the roster. However they did come forward so I guess being honest after the fact is good in the eyes of the NCAA.

If the NCAA wants to discourage the actions, then every little rule violation should be addressed in some matter, shape, or form.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 22, 2007, 09:26:14 AM
Quote from: narch on June 21, 2007, 05:28:24 PM
'nova - that was me that you quoted, not psbbg, and the bottom line is this...guilford had the ability to track his previous enrollment through the national student clearinghouse and they did not...in my opinion, they did not use due diligence prior to enrolling this particular student-athlete, so they can't just wash their hands of the incident and say "it's all his fault for lying on his application" - guilford's actions after the fact are to be commended, but it does not excuse the fact that they used an ineligible player in 4 games (he did not, by the way, play against mu)...personally, i think they should have been held to the exact same standard that shenandoah was the previous year when they used an ineligible player - ineligible is ineligible is ineligible...there is no gray area, if you ask me, and claiming ignorance only works if you have no way of getting the information that you need

If I remember correctly, SU's decision to forfeit the Catholic game was made in-house, not an NCAA decision.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 22, 2007, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on June 21, 2007, 02:53:54 PM
Although that seems exactly like something the NCAA would get involved in.  Nevermind the bigger issues to worry about, let's make sure some church group is not rewarding a bunch of well-deserving college athletes.

~steps down off soapbox~

BINGO. 

Everyone on here know's I'm not a fan of the captains...  but this shouldn't even be an issue.  I agree with the admiral -  the last thing the NCAA needs to sanction is a bunch of guys getting a meal at church.  Last time I checked, some good old churchin' was a positive thing...   maybe you prefer these kids go the Pacman Jones route?  Or maybe a reception at BALCO?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 22, 2007, 09:41:42 AM
Has anyone seen this.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-bkc-jim-litke-062107,1,2492822.story?ctrack=2&cset=true


I went looking for MD commitments (I am orginally from MD) and I found this article.  From what I know of recruiting there is nothing wrong with it.  A player can start contact with a coach at anytime and clearly 8th grade was the time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on June 22, 2007, 12:07:43 PM
TOOSHAY! I was wondering how that was handled, thanks for clearing it up SU, i couldnt remember what happened with that situation.

I dont know about you guys, but when  church cooks for people, especially to thank them or to congratulate them for their accomplishments, it is usually good. There is nothing wrong with this. Methodist used to get fed by a church, of whom was our team chaplin, we went there to eat on fall break for a meal, usually before the ferrum game. There was nothing wrong with that, it is not special treatment, i mean hell if thats the case, then everyone is illegal. You shouldnt be able to go otu to eat with anyone then that wants to buy your supper, thats what this all boils down to. Nobody did anything wrong. NCAA has alot more things to worry about than a church feedin players. Recruiting and eligibility is the biggest thing they have to worry about.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 22, 2007, 01:04:51 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on June 22, 2007, 12:07:43 PM
TOOSHAY! I was wondering how that was handled, thanks for clearing it up SU, i couldnt remember what happened with that situation.

I dont know about you guys, but when  church cooks for people, especially to thank them or to congratulate them for their accomplishments, it is usually good. There is nothing wrong with this. Methodist used to get fed by a church, of whom was our team chaplin, we went there to eat on fall break for a meal, usually before the ferrum game. There was nothing wrong with that, it is not special treatment, i mean hell if thats the case, then everyone is illegal. You shouldnt be able to go otu to eat with anyone then that wants to buy your supper, thats what this all boils down to. Nobody did anything wrong. NCAA has alot more things to worry about than a church feedin players. Recruiting and eligibility is the biggest thing they have to worry about.

I was hoping I would find that MU dominates FC.  I figured a church dinner with the man upstairs would get the team on the good side.  However I didn't find that, I guess some of the players just ate too much before that game.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 22, 2007, 01:52:14 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on June 22, 2007, 12:07:43 PM
TOOSHAY!

Touche.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 22, 2007, 02:44:39 PM
Its friday at work and am doing nothing, but I came up with a little poem I call "The USASouth."  My goal was to make fun of every school including Greenboro.


"The USASouth"

First off there is CNU
They think they are better than you
Conference championships is what they yield
But National Championships are in track and field.

Methodist follows after that
Thier mascot is some big cat
Golf is what they know how to do
Which is as exciting as watching beer brew.

Next School is Averett
I despise that school I must admit
They play good basketball and football
But after that I'd say nothing at all

Ferrum is next on the ticket
That school is out there in the thicket
They have a good women's basketball team
But all those other sports will just have to dream.

There are two n's in Shenandoah
Which is quite far from Western Somoa
They don't have one good sport
At least they beat Averett on thier own home court

NC Wesleyan is next one of the clan
Its a real good school to go to if you're a fan
That baseball team can really play
But Averett and Methodist left them astray

Greensboro is the school that comes last
Scholar Athletes are the top of the class
I need to make fun of them with reason
Oh yeah football team has never had a winning season.


(Sorry Greensboro I had to come up with something it is just part of the ryhme. )

I hope everyone enjoys this and makes thier work day better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 22, 2007, 02:55:40 PM
Hey Pride,

Don't forget Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 22, 2007, 02:58:07 PM
Watching beer brew can be very exciting if you get to drink it when it's ready.

If you would have seen me on the course on Tuesday you would know there's at least one Monarch that can't play golf. ;D  It's a good thing I'm good at Search and Rescue because a few of my balls needed a rescue swimmer. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 22, 2007, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 22, 2007, 02:55:40 PM
Hey Pride,

Don't forget Maryville

Why not? The coaches have the last two years in the preseason poll. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 22, 2007, 03:04:11 PM
I wanted to do the regular USASouth teams.  I can't compare them to the rest of the conference, when they only particpate in football.


Papi-

You know how long it takes for beer to ferment?  Yeah.  That is why I choose beer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 22, 2007, 03:07:07 PM
Hey Admiral,

You sound like someone I might (and that is a huge stretch of the word "MIGHT"), be able to hang with on the golf course. If anyone wants to win lots of beer, they just take me. I am good for finding every "Cat Box" and Tree on a course.

"Cow Pasture Pool" I lose more money at golf than I do betting on Redskins. What does that tell ya? Don't answer that; I have already been called everyone from "A" to "Z" when it comes to golf.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 22, 2007, 03:31:52 PM
here is something football related.  A local sports network covered MD football that covered MD football spring practices.

Here is the link.

http://umterps.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/061807aaa.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 22, 2007, 03:42:31 PM
We have a tournament ever year to raise money for our morale fund that we call the Search and Rescue classic.  Between the beer and the horrible golf swings a lot of golf balls go Missing in Action.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 22, 2007, 04:19:34 PM
Do like I do, buy those water balls (3 for @ $1.00)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 22, 2007, 04:32:31 PM
You know PSBBG got me thinking about our "big cat mascot."  Why is a lion known as the king of the jungle when it spends most of its time on the plains?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 22, 2007, 10:00:58 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 22, 2007, 02:44:39 PM
Its friday at work and am doing nothing, but I came up with a little poem I call "The USASouth."  My goal was to make fun of every school including Greenboro.


"The USASouth"

First off there is CNU
They think they are better than you
Conference championships is what they yield
But National Championships are in track and field.

Methodist follows after that
Thier mascot is some big cat
Golf is what they know how to do
Which is as exciting as watching beer brew.

Next School is Averett
I despise that school I must admit
They play good basketball and football
But after that I'd say nothing at all

Ferrum is next on the ticket
That school is out there in the thicket
They have a good women's basketball team
But all those other sports will just have to dream.

There are two n's in Shenandoah
Which is quite far from Western Somoa
They don't have one good sport
At least they beat Averett on thier own home court

NC Wesleyan is next one of the clan
Its a real good school to go to if you're a fan
That baseball team can really play
But Averett and Methodist left them astray

Greensboro is the school that comes last
Scholar Athletes are the top of the class
I need to make fun of them with reason
Oh yeah football team has never had a winning season.


(Sorry Greensboro I had to come up with something it is just part of the ryhme. )

I hope everyone enjoys this and makes thier work day better.

greatest.

psbbg.

post.

ever.

seriously...that was very funny and witty...i'll let your next then/than slip slide :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 23, 2007, 09:03:31 AM
Quote from: narch on June 22, 2007, 10:00:58 PM


greatest.

psbbg.

post.

ever.

seriously...that was very funny and witty...i'll let your next then/than slip slide :)


If I were a betting man, I would have lost some money.  I thought it would be you that would hate it, haha  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 23, 2007, 09:34:30 AM
PSBBG - I agree with Narch.  That was one of your better posts.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 23, 2007, 09:40:15 AM
My favorite lines were:

"There are two n's in Shenandoah
Which is quite far from Western Somoa"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 23, 2007, 09:47:10 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on June 23, 2007, 09:40:15 AM
My favorite lines were:

"There are two n's in Shenandoah
Which is quite far from Western Somoa"
Yeah, he could have also gone with:

There are two n's in Shenandoah, but one is inside my pet boa!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 23, 2007, 12:27:32 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 23, 2007, 09:34:30 AM
PSBBG - I agree with Narch.  That was one of your better posts.  :)

I make fun of schools and it is considered one of my better posts.  Or was it the greensboro line  :)

Quote from: admiralpapi on June 23, 2007, 09:40:15 AM
My favorite lines were:

"There are two n's in Shenandoah
Which is quite far from Western Somoa"

My favorite one was the entire CNU stanza.


As far as the poem in general, that really is what I am like everyday.  Not the rhyming part but the witt.  Sometimes the quick witts are taken the wrong way here. (I was at -7 now -9).  I have to control it sometimes.


I waiting on CNU85's reaction.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 23, 2007, 02:48:28 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 23, 2007, 12:27:32 PMMy favorite one was the entire CNU stanza.

As far as the poem in general, that really is what I am like everyday.  Not the rhyming part(,) but the witt (sic).  Sometimes the quick witts (sic) are taken the wrong way here. (I was at -7(,) now -9).  I have to control it sometimes.


I (am) waiting on CNU85's reaction.
Pride, take a breather.  Just say thanks before we all get revved up again.  :)

There once was a guy in a Pride 
With spellcheck he has not yet tried!
He roars with great wit.
Shenandoah he gets.
Now a "catt" with two t's? You decide! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 23, 2007, 03:30:22 PM
Wow, I rolled over to the ODAC board a minute ago and they actually have semi-intellectual debates going on over there, while it appears the USASAC Board is stuck in 3rd grade...

Although I was VERY disappointed that in 7 pages worth of banter, those guys never brought up the real issue with why/how Bridgewater Football made the huge jump in the early part of the decade:  that is around the exact same time they began to operate with a freshman discount rate of more than 60%.  I wonder how many pages they will continue to argue about "admissions standards" and "better academics" with each other.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 23, 2007, 04:26:02 PM
I know the discount rate is generally available, though I'm not sure where it's published. You have a source to back up that claim?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 23, 2007, 06:57:01 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 23, 2007, 04:26:02 PM
You have a source to back up that claim?

I'm not quite sure how to take the intended meaning of that sentence. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 23, 2007, 07:01:02 PM
Seems pretty cut and dry to me....I was kinda wondering about that myself.  Wonder why I didn't get the freshman discount rate?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 23, 2007, 07:19:39 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 23, 2007, 06:57:01 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 23, 2007, 04:26:02 PM
You have a source to back up that claim?

I'm not quite sure how to take the intended meaning of that sentence. 

I don't know why. Seems rather clear. What's your source on the discount rate which you are alleging Bridgewater used?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 23, 2007, 07:25:56 PM
Alleging?  You make it sound like this is a legal proceeding...

Regardless, from what I'm told most public data for discount rates are for institutions as a whole, not listed for just the frosh class.  So, I'm not sure if you will find information to contradict my previous statement.  Of course, trying to find any historical information from 2000 for something like this would be a tad difficult to say the least (2001 was when BC started winning right? - I can't find much information on their new school website for football) as they don't have tuition information available from that timeframe.  

However, in the spirit of the thing, you may want to check out the following sites:  

http://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/cool/screen.aspx?screenId=40 (http://nces.ed.gov/ipeds/cool/screen.aspx?screenId=40)
http://www.suffolk.edu/files/Enrollment_Research_PDF/discount_rates.pdf  (http://www.suffolk.edu/files/Enrollment_Research_PDF/discount_rates.pdf)

Basically, what the NCES/COOL site indicates is that in 2004 99% of BC students receive institutional grants. At the bare minimum, the entire BC school receives an average of $9,464 in institutional grants/scholarship.  If the 2004 tuition was listed at $17,990 (found on same site), then that alone is a 52% discount rate.  That does not take into account other grants, etc..., making the true number a higher percentage.  Add that to this thought:  that was 4 years after the timeframe I am trying to find info about.  

Next is the data found on the second site, citing the first site while indicating that BC's discount rate was 55% in 1999/2000 school year.  

So I guess I can't find all the data from 7 years ago to justify my "claim" - but I also can't find any to really dispute it.  Anyways, to help the W&L folks... the real issue is that it's pretty obvious in looking over the rest of the ODAC schools on the second list that none of them were even in the same ballpark back then...

I was just surprised that no one brought it up.  PSBBG was going down the right road, but USNews isn't the place to look for it.

Yes, hell is freezing over as I am somewhat agreeing with PSBBG.  I need to go have a cold beverage after that realization...  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 23, 2007, 07:27:50 PM
I HATE CNU.

There, I'm feeling normal again.  Carry on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 23, 2007, 11:28:52 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 23, 2007, 07:25:56 PMthe entire BC school receives an average of $9,464 in institutional grants/scholarship.  If the 2004 tuition was listed at $17,990 (found on same site), then that alone is a 52% discount rate
WOW...just wow...those seem like HUGE numbers to me...i know i could find it, but any idea what the bc endowment is like?...answered my own question...$54.1 million per peterson's...is that big enough to support that kind of discount rate?  it must be..

here are discount rates for usasac schools per cool:

mu - $6576/$16,700 (39%) - avg tuition after inst. aid = $10,124
gboro - $5015/$16820 (30%) - avg tuition after inst. aid = $11,805
ncwc - $6670/$13,550 (49%) - avg tuition after inst. aid = $6880
fc - $6060/$16,870 (36%) - avg tuition after inst. aid = $10,810
au - $6741/$18,430 (37%) - avg tuition after inst. aid = $11,689
su - $5950/$19,240 (31%) - avg tuition after inst. aid = $13,290
cnu - $1535/$5314 (29%) - avg tuition after inst. aid = $3779
m'ville - $11,794/$21,065 (56%)...WOW - - avg tuition after inst. aid = $9271

does anyone remember the old sesame street or electric company song that went "one of these things is not like the other, one of these things just does not belong"?...:)

su's discount rate is 2nd lowest among private usasac schools, but they actually have an endowment similar to that of bc ($46 million per peterson's) - m'ville, on the other hand, has the highest discount rate and an endowment of $36.5 million according to peterson's - mu is just over $14 million (not bad for a 50 year old institution, but a far cry from 36.5 or 55 or more) - according to peterson's, gc has an $80.5 million endowment, ferrum is at $40.5, au is $22.6, ncwc is $7.5, cnu is $3.2 million...never would have guessed that gc had such a large endowment...they need to spend some of that money on a gym :)

my conclusion - i'm not sure that discount rates and endowment are related, although i initially thought they might be...

i found this interesting...harvard's endowment MADE over $28 million last year...their endowment made more in one year than mu has in total...the rich get richer :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 24, 2007, 12:33:21 AM
Quote from: narch on June 23, 2007, 11:28:52 PM
su's discount rate is 2nd lowest among private usasac schools, but they actually have an endowment similar to that of bc ($46 million per peterson's) - m'ville, on the other hand, has the highest discount rate and an endowment of $36.5 million according to peterson's - mu is just over $14 million (not bad for a 50 year old institution, but a far cry from 36.5 or 55 or more) - according to peterson's, gc has an $80.5 million endowment, ferrum is at $40.5, au is $22.6, ncwc is $7.5, cnu is $3.2 million...never would have guessed that gc had such a large endowment...they need to spend some of that money on a gym :) year than mu has in total...the rich get richer :)
Hey, narch.  Good work, but I also didn't think GCP's endowment was that high.  In fact, the research I did (US News) shows $23.7 million.  There's always a little "competitive" spirit in Greensboro between GCP and GCQ and I knew Guilford's endowment was a lot more ($59-60M) than Greensboro's.  Not sure if your source was in error, but the $23.7M seems about right to me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 24, 2007, 04:59:34 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 24, 2007, 12:33:21 AM
Quote from: narch on June 23, 2007, 11:28:52 PM
su's discount rate is 2nd lowest among private usasac schools, but they actually have an endowment similar to that of bc ($46 million per peterson's) - m'ville, on the other hand, has the highest discount rate and an endowment of $36.5 million according to peterson's - mu is just over $14 million (not bad for a 50 year old institution, but a far cry from 36.5 or 55 or more) - according to peterson's, gc has an $80.5 million endowment, ferrum is at $40.5, au is $22.6, ncwc is $7.5, cnu is $3.2 million...never would have guessed that gc had such a large endowment...they need to spend some of that money on a gym :) year than mu has in total...the rich get richer :)
Hey, narch.  Good work, but I also didn't think GCP's endowment was that high.  In fact, the research I did (US News) shows $23.7 million.  There's always a little "competitive" spirit in Greensboro between GCP and GCQ and I knew Guilford's endowment was a lot more ($59-60M) than Greensboro's.  Not sure if your source was in error, but the $23.7M seems about right to me.

Well Greensboro College does have another gym at the Student Center.  It is regulation size, but it is far from being ready to have contests.  It will be a decent facility, but it there is no seating for anybody.  Currently more seats at Hanes than in the student center.

As far as if it is 80.5million or 23.7million, I couldn't tell you.  If it 80.5million then it should be going towards the outdoor sports park.  I like Grimsley, but we need a place to call "Home."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 24, 2007, 05:30:38 PM
'nova - not sure about the reliability of EITHER of our sources...i'm not a big us news fan...here is my source for gc's endowment (http://www.petersons.com/ugchannel/code/InstVC.asp?inunid=6515&sponsor=1)...it doesn't SEEM right, but it's the same source i used for all of the others
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 24, 2007, 05:38:48 PM
Quote from: narch on June 24, 2007, 05:30:38 PM
'nova - not sure about the reliability of EITHER of our sources...i'm not a big us news fan...[ur=lhttp://www.petersons.com/ugchannel/code/InstVC.asp?inunid=6515&sponsor=1]here is my source for gc's endowment[/url]...it doesn't SEEM right, but it's the same source i used for all of the others
Yeah, one or both sources could be in error, but I bet the $23.7M is in the right zone.  This is just my experience talking based on following Greensboro area schools, but there's no way Greensboro College is anywhere near $80.5M - unless someone dropped $57M on them in the past day or two!  lol  If they have, I think it would have made the paper.  :) 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 24, 2007, 08:26:27 PM
Quote from: narch on June 23, 2007, 11:28:52 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 23, 2007, 07:25:56 PMthe entire BC school receives an average of $9,464 in institutional grants/scholarship.  If the 2004 tuition was listed at $17,990 (found on same site), then that alone is a 52% discount rate
WOW...just wow...those seem like HUGE numbers to me...i know i could find it, but any idea what the bc endowment is like?...answered my own question...$54.1 million per peterson's...is that big enough to support that kind of discount rate?  it must be..

my conclusion - i'm not sure that discount rates and endowment are related, although i initially thought they might be...


I don't think there is a correlation between the two either.  Great anaylsis on the USASAC schools Narch, that"s what I thought PSBBG would use in his argument with the ODAC folks -  BC's tuition and W&L's tuition are not even close when you start, and THEN the discounting comes in to play...  Fold that into the smaller pool that the W&L guys were talking about and the whole conversation's finished... 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 24, 2007, 08:41:05 PM
PSBBG... 

So I'm here trying to help you out a little with your info... and I find this on the General DIII issues page under "Financial Issues":

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 09:53:38 AM
If we get back to Financial problems, there are several schools that have added football programs to help increase enrollment.  Shenandoah University is one of those schools.  Some of these schools may never field a competitve team.  I am just wondering what is the cost of running a program?  Now if a school adds footbal aren't they supposed to have a female equivalent under Title IX?  Now a school that needed to increase enrollment (which probably not postively means they are having financial problems) is funding two teams.

help me out with understanding why you singled out SU?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 24, 2007, 08:48:52 PM
psbbg - a gc fan should talk about "never fielding a competetive team" :)

i'll give you your answer...any small, private, tuition dependent institution that DOESN'T offer football is nuts, unless they simply don't have the room to add an addition 80-150 student athletes (and i'd recommend that they simply build a new residence hall to make room)...take the numbers i crunched below (avg tuition revenue after financial aid is subtracted) and multiply them by anywhere between 80 and 150 (the number of players generally on a d3 roster)...i guarantee that number is higher than the cost to run the program, and i guarantee it's significantly higher...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 24, 2007, 08:51:39 PM
The way I'm reading it is...

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 09:53:38 AM
If we get back to Financial problems, there are several schools that have added football programs to help increase enrollment.  Shenandoah University is one of those schools.  Some of these schools may never field a competitve team.  

Yes, it has been well documented (on the front page of the New York Times and on NBC) that the primary reason for SU to add football was to complement enrollment needs, but SU has been USASAC co-champs twice and have been to the NCAA tournament.  So I am not sure why you felt you needed to include SU in that thread.   Common logic could conclude that Greensboro might have been a better example, seeing that you've never had a winning season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 24, 2007, 08:53:00 PM
ooops..  seems like Narch beat me to it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 24, 2007, 09:30:13 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 24, 2007, 08:51:39 PM
The way I'm reading it is...

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 09:53:38 AM
If we get back to Financial problems, there are several schools that have added football programs to help increase enrollment.  Shenandoah University is one of those schools.  Some of these schools may never field a competitve team.  

Yes, it has been well documented (on the front page of the New York Times and on NBC) that the primary reason for SU to add football was to complement enrollment needs, but SU has been USASAC co-champs twice and have been to the NCAA tournament.  So I am not sure why you felt you needed to include SU in that thread.   Common logic could conclude that Greensboro might have been a better example, seeing that you've never had a winning season.

I used SU because it is well documented. Since it is well documented, I wanted to throw out an example that most people would have heard about already. I know Greensboro did do it for that reason, but it is not documented as much as Shenandoah. 

Besides I talk about Greensboro too much.

About football I think my two biggest arguements last year about Greensboro's football team was a) we weren't going to finish in last place and b) we were going to beat Methodist.

Quote me on this right here if you want.  I mean save this post.

My arguements this year will be.  Greensboro won't finish in last place.  We will beat either CNU or AU at home this year.

I had a dream the other night Greensboro was beating Maryville 42-28.  I never did figure out the final score.  I hope that comes true.  So I think I might very well take the points in that game in the pick'em contest. (That is of course if GC is picked as an underdog)

GC has never started a season 3-0.  It could very well happen this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 24, 2007, 10:03:59 PM
Now I am trying to figure out something here, when was the last time, I was down right in your face about Greensboro Athletics.  I am talking about the caliber of last football season,  I believe when I set my "posting rules."  What is the point.  Ya'll have forced me to be neutral.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 25, 2007, 12:21:58 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 24, 2007, 09:30:13 PM
I know Greensboro did do it for that reason, but it is not documented as much as Shenandoah.

It was in 1996 and 1997. You just weren't paying attention then. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 25, 2007, 01:02:43 AM
As for former logistican I can support the Narchster.  I am only looking at getting the boys infilled and exfilled

Lets say you fly a MC130 Combat Talon (C130 like A/C). I say this because civilian A/C are more expensive but I have no experience with civilian charters and I do not know their $$ but use the Talon at about 4K a hour. That's cheap. you have 5 road games 4 hours round trip a year. This is not scientific but it's a brush.

That's 80K a year for flights. lets throw in a 65 man travel team at 55.00 a night (hotel) for 1 night that's about 3600 X 5 at about 18000. 20.00 per man a meal, that's about 1300 X 5 road trips at 6500.00. Not counting another couple grand for tape. ;)
These are DII travel scenarios probably at $104,500 a year. Not counting buses from airports, misc, ie: ORTHO surgeons on the field. That tags another 10K

that is chump change compared to 110 guys bringing $ and financial aid $ at 29K a pop or more, or about 3M+ to the school.

Ah............ the home gate is beyond this discussion.........

Somebody like Narch probably gives MC at least 1-2 M a year in endownment money ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 25, 2007, 07:48:28 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 24, 2007, 09:30:13 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 24, 2007, 08:51:39 PM
The way I'm reading it is...

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 09:53:38 AM
If we get back to Financial problems, there are several schools that have added football programs to help increase enrollment.  Shenandoah University is one of those schools.  Some of these schools may never field a competitve team.  

Yes, it has been well documented (on the front page of the New York Times and on NBC) that the primary reason for SU to add football was to complement enrollment needs, but SU has been USASAC co-champs twice and have been to the NCAA tournament.  So I am not sure why you felt you needed to include SU in that thread.   Common logic could conclude that Greensboro might have been a better example, seeing that you've never had a winning season.

I used SU because it is well documented. Since it is well documented, I wanted to throw out an example that most people would have heard about already. I know Greensboro did do it for that reason, but it is not documented as much as Shenandoah. 

Besides I talk about Greensboro too much.

About football I think my two biggest arguements last year about Greensboro's football team was a) we weren't going to finish in last place and b) we were going to beat Methodist.

Quote me on this right here if you want.  I mean save this post.

My arguements this year will be.  Greensboro won't finish in last place.  We will beat either CNU or AU at home this year.

I had a dream the other night Greensboro was beating Maryville 42-28.  I never did figure out the final score.  I hope that comes true.  So I think I might very well take the points in that game in the pick'em contest. (That is of course if GC is picked as an underdog)

GC has never started a season 3-0.  It could very well happen this year.

     Funny Pride....I had the same dream. Hate to tell you but the Scots staged a furious comeback and beat GC 43 to 42 on a two point conversion with 0:00 on the clock. LOL  ;D  GO SCOTS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 25, 2007, 08:02:13 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 25, 2007, 12:21:58 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 24, 2007, 09:30:13 PM
I know Greensboro did do it for that reason, but it is not documented as much as Shenandoah.

It was in 1996 and 1997. You just weren't paying attention then. :)

Oh I was and I know, but the national coverage wasn't as huge as Shenandoah's national coverage. We can't forget that Greensboro was once the Greensboro Hornets.  Many rumors that surround on the reasons why the name was changed.

One rumor is the name was changed because of the Charlotte Hornets. (Even though they were playing 2 years before the change.)  Although it probably took two years to decide on the "Pride" nickname.

Now I heard rumors that they want to change "Pride" because it is one of the seven deadly sins.  The school is affiliated with the church so I could see why.

Narch supports Greensboro athletics.  Just a rumor I heard.  (That is how I take those rumors.) NOT HAPPENING.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 25, 2007, 08:15:52 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on June 25, 2007, 07:48:28 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 24, 2007, 09:30:13 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 24, 2007, 08:51:39 PM
The way I'm reading it is...

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 14, 2007, 09:53:38 AM
If we get back to Financial problems, there are several schools that have added football programs to help increase enrollment.  Shenandoah University is one of those schools.  Some of these schools may never field a competitve team.  

Yes, it has been well documented (on the front page of the New York Times and on NBC) that the primary reason for SU to add football was to complement enrollment needs, but SU has been USASAC co-champs twice and have been to the NCAA tournament.  So I am not sure why you felt you needed to include SU in that thread.   Common logic could conclude that Greensboro might have been a better example, seeing that you've never had a winning season.

I used SU because it is well documented. Since it is well documented, I wanted to throw out an example that most people would have heard about already. I know Greensboro did do it for that reason, but it is not documented as much as Shenandoah. 

Besides I talk about Greensboro too much.

About football I think my two biggest arguements last year about Greensboro's football team was a) we weren't going to finish in last place and b) we were going to beat Methodist.

Quote me on this right here if you want.  I mean save this post.

My arguements this year will be.  Greensboro won't finish in last place.  We will beat either CNU or AU at home this year.

I had a dream the other night Greensboro was beating Maryville 42-28.  I never did figure out the final score.  I hope that comes true.  So I think I might very well take the points in that game in the pick'em contest. (That is of course if GC is picked as an underdog)

GC has never started a season 3-0.  It could very well happen this year.

     Funny Pride....I had the same dream. Hate to tell you but the Scots staged a furious comeback and beat GC 43 to 42 on a two point conversion with 0:00 on the clock. LOL  ;D  GO SCOTS!!

Not going to lie to you.  I am worried about that comeback.  The two games between Greensboro and Maryville have been great football games.  There could be a rivalry between them in the making.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 25, 2007, 08:30:14 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 25, 2007, 08:02:13 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 25, 2007, 12:21:58 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 24, 2007, 09:30:13 PM
I know Greensboro did do it for that reason, but it is not documented as much as Shenandoah.

It was in 1996 and 1997. You just weren't paying attention then. :)

Oh I was and I know, but the national coverage wasn't as huge as Shenandoah's national coverage. We can't forget that Greensboro was once the Greensboro Hornets.  Many rumors that surround on the reasons why the name was changed.

One rumor is the name was changed because of the Charlotte Hornets. (Even though they were playing 2 years before the change.)  Although it probably took two years to decide on the "Pride" nickname.

Now I heard rumors that they want to change "Pride" because it is one of the seven deadly sins.  The school is affiliated with the church so I could see why.

Narch supports Greensboro athletics.  Just a rumor I heard.  (That is how I take those rumors.) NOT HAPPENING.

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 24, 2007, 10:03:59 PM
Now I am trying to figure out something here, when was the last time, I was down right in your face about Greensboro Athletics.  I am talking about the caliber of last football season,  I believe when I set my "posting rules."  What is the point.  Ya'll have forced me to be neutral.

...huh?...what?...looks like abnrgr went on a bender and took over your keyboard
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 25, 2007, 08:37:55 AM
hmm....

I don't believe that those rumors are true.  Including the one about Narch. That was my point.

Go look at my posts from last football season and you will see what I am talking about. 



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 25, 2007, 08:46:08 AM
ok I found my rules on the USASouth Basketball Board.

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 19, 2006, 06:12:03 PM
As many of you all know, since most will be here when basketball starts.  I set up a few posting rules for myself.  Again most of you know, I don't back down when people confront me.  To save my heart (history of heart problems in the family  ;) :-\), I will use these rules when people confront me about the pride and in general:


1) If you talk bad about a coach or a player, usually I defend them.  If you talk bad I will smite you.  I have that power. (This won't happen all the time, but I will judge it).

2) When you do talk bad about a coach or a player,  I will follow with, use your resources and channel it elsewhere.

3) I will congratulate all teams on victory. I will congratulate players of the week, and debate who should have gotten it.

4)  I will ask questions about things that have happened in box scores, be more of a statistical approach.

Greensboro isn't used to having avid posters on these boards.  They just aren't ready as the rest of the schools in the conference.  I will respect that and take it easy.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 25, 2007, 09:45:38 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 25, 2007, 08:02:13 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 25, 2007, 12:21:58 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 24, 2007, 09:30:13 PM
I know Greensboro did do it for that reason, but it is not documented as much as Shenandoah.

It was in 1996 and 1997. You just weren't paying attention then. :)

Oh I was and I know, but the national coverage wasn't as huge as Shenandoah's national coverage. We can't forget that Greensboro was once the Greensboro Hornets.  Many rumors that surround on the reasons why the name was changed.

No. It took Greensboro to start the trend of schools adding football for enrollment purposes. It wasn't a trend until others started doing it.

http://www.d3football.com/news.php?item=1034
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 25, 2007, 11:56:57 AM
Narch
Just trying to back you up; however, I thought it may semi sense :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 25, 2007, 04:14:17 PM
wow...I don't sign on for a few days and.....

I'm speechless.....

poetry
discount rates
football costs v revenue from tuition
analysis comparing civilian and military aircraft
more poetry

I'm going away for a day or two to absorb all this with my tiny little brain.  :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 25, 2007, 10:44:44 PM
Greensboro 5

SU 2
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 25, 2007, 11:48:58 PM
touche...

 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 26, 2007, 12:14:41 AM
85
I been trying to tell them but they do not listen ;)

Yea... it blows without games to talk smack about
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 26, 2007, 08:27:52 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on June 25, 2007, 10:44:44 PM
Greensboro 5

SU 2

The real reason then for SU to add football wasn't to help enrollment or to win championships.  Football was added for the sole purpose for GC, with a all time record of 29-69, to dominate SU.  :) GC has 15 conference wins, 5 are SU.

I think the (re)building is over.  GC I think finally has a good core group of players.  Most aren't those transfers that Narch hates.  Enough players that are tired of losing. I am not talking taking the conference, but I am saying finally competing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 26, 2007, 11:06:59 AM
we all know the guy PSBBG
he posts freely 'cuz it's free

he tried to be a poet
he failed and we know it

most lines needed a tweak
overall it was really weak (or else I wasn't concentrating b/c I needed to take a leak!!)

I can't until fall
when we can talk football

I must leave now and soon will be eating
I'm sure my Karma will now take a beating

sad.......

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 26, 2007, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 26, 2007, 12:14:41 AM
85
I been trying to tell them but they do not listen ;)

Yea... it blows without games to talk smack about

it blows to be a GC fan even when there are games.....still can't talk smack!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 26, 2007, 11:28:42 AM
+1 for 85

Just because when someone does take one away.  You will break even.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 26, 2007, 11:37:43 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 26, 2007, 11:28:42 AM
+1 for 85

Just because when someone does take one away.  You will break even.

thanks!! I hope I get my info for season tickets soon....I need something football related!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 26, 2007, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 26, 2007, 11:37:43 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 26, 2007, 11:28:42 AM
+1 for 85

Just because when someone does take one away.  You will break even.

thanks!! I hope I get my info for season tickets soon....I need something football related!!!

There is no offer of season tickets at Greensboro.  The fans are mostly students and parents of players.  Which costs nothing.  Football season can't come any sooner.  I keep have dreams about this season.  There were 9000 fans in one dream.  Clearly a dream because we didn't draw 9000 total fans at home last season.  I am not complaining because I get to sit wherever I want  ;D  The other fans are at a loss, not me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 26, 2007, 12:59:01 PM
CNU85
One for you...........I do hate their home uniforms at GC. Look better in white
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 26, 2007, 01:14:37 PM
We need to add another team to the conference maybe then we could have less co-champs.  Key word is could.  We could do that and maybe throw in a conference championship game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 26, 2007, 01:16:52 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 26, 2007, 12:59:01 PM
CNU85
One for you...........I do hate their home uniforms at GC. Look better in white

The dumbest looking uniforms belong(ed) to Chowan. Didn't anyone tell them that the helmets didn't match the blue in the uniform?

GC uniforms are ok...if they're tucked in...sloppy....tuck them in and they win 1 more game a year. I won't go there again!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 26, 2007, 01:27:05 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 26, 2007, 01:14:37 PM
We need to add another team to the conference maybe then we could have less co-champs.  Key word is could.  We could do that and maybe throw in a conference championship game.

I don't think the USAC schools would be interested in giving up a regular season game so that two schools could play a championship game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 26, 2007, 01:37:59 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 26, 2007, 01:16:52 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on June 26, 2007, 12:59:01 PM
CNU85
One for you...........I do hate their home uniforms at GC. Look better in white

The dumbest looking uniforms belong(ed) to Chowan. Didn't anyone tell them that the helmets didn't match the blue in the uniform?

GC uniforms are ok...if they're tucked in...sloppy....tuck them in and they win 1 more game a year. I won't go there again!

Please don't go there again.  GC will be wearing ALL white at home. Maybe it will just blend in and people won't worry if it is tucked in or not.

Pat-
We could always add games like d1  ;D

If conference championships keep getting cancelled with no make-up, might as well say there is one and not play it all ;D. (I understand why it happened, but don't like that it did.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 26, 2007, 01:56:33 PM
Pat,

Did I see where Pat Cummings is leaving D3Football? If so who will be writing the articles this year for your All Around the Region (Mid Atlantic). I really enjoy reading those every week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 26, 2007, 01:58:52 PM
Ryan Tipps, who wrote the USA South preview for Kickoff this past season and was part of our coverage of the Stagg Bowl, will write Around the Mid-Atlantic this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 26, 2007, 03:21:48 PM
I played from 00-03.  We were always coached to keep our jerseys tucked in.  The old jerseys were pretty long and they got pulled out from time to time but that happens. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 26, 2007, 05:05:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 26, 2007, 01:58:52 PM
Ryan Tipps, who wrote the USA South preview for Kickoff this past season and was part of our coverage of the Stagg Bowl, will write Around the Mid-Atlantic this season.

Good - Ryan is a quality guy!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 26, 2007, 05:20:13 PM
Agreed -- we're happy he's aboard!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 26, 2007, 10:13:10 PM
No football to talk about...  but there's really been no football to talk about at SU for the last two years anyways. :o 

I just checked out the "Future of DIII" board and I'm curious:  what do you guys think about realignment of a possible DIII & DIV? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 27, 2007, 03:03:03 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 26, 2007, 10:13:10 PM
what do you guys think about realignment of a possible DIII & DIV? 

Not that it really matters what I think, but I will give you my thoughts on this.

I have already supported that fact that everyone should at least try to play a sport in college.  If they don't do well then they can always quit. I also think it is a good idea to add sports to help with enrollment.  With that said you would think that I would be in favor of a DIV, but I am not.  I don't think giving the lower tier teams another division will be benefical to the student athlete. There are already so many restrictions on athletes at the DIII level (scholarships, redshirting, etc.) that what else would you have to restrict at the DIV level.  If people argue that at the d3 level that is about education( which I do agree with) what is left for the DIV level.  Still getting the education, but your just not talented enough to compete at a higher level.

There are quite a few teams d3 that are better than some DII schools.  I think with a DIV school those teams are just intramural teams in an organized national league.  I don't know how I would convice a player to go play d4.  A coach would have to go look at bench players, that don't even play.  That is hardly recruiting and just doesn't make much sense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 27, 2007, 03:13:20 PM
I don't think we'll see too many sports added solely as a result of splitting Division III into two groups. It's likely that the more restrictive group will have a higher minimum level of sports than D-III currently has, but I think the schools that choose to join that group already have the 16 or so sports that would likely be required.

There may be some but I don't know if there will be a large net gain.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 27, 2007, 11:19:21 PM
okay, looks like I killed off the USASAC Board this week... sorry fellas.  Somebody toss out a poem or something to kick things off again for PSBBG. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: SU97 on June 27, 2007, 11:19:21 PM
okay, looks like I killed off the USASAC Board this week... sorry fellas.  Somebody toss out a poem or something to kick things off again for PSBBG. 

I can't think if any poems, and I have no crazy formulas to throw out there.  I do have a few questions though and I hope it sparks some board activity.

Which team is poised to surpise some people?  Which team is poised to really disappoint? (this with knowing what teams are expected to return.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 28, 2007, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: SU97 on June 27, 2007, 11:19:21 PM
okay, looks like I killed off the USASAC Board this week... sorry fellas.  Somebody toss out a poem or something to kick things off again for PSBBG. 

I can't think if any poems, and I have no crazy formulas to throw out there.  I do have a few questions though and I hope it sparks some board activity.

Which team is poised to surpise some people?  Which team is poised to really disappoint? (this with knowing what teams are expected to return.)

     No bias here  ;D but the Fighting Scots may be "poised" to make a run at the conference title this year. The last few years they have lost quite a few games by small margins. If they can get those games to go their way this year, watch out.
    The Scots offense returns mostly intact. This includes the offensive coordinator position, which hasn't had much continuity recently. Of course the big loss was at QB so that will be key, particularly in the first few games. If that position can gel before the conference schedule starts, anything can happen. 
    I posted this last year but will post again. Rommel Hightower is an outstanding running back. He is only a SO. If he stays healthy and continues to improve, he will be a force in the conference. With most of the O line back from last year, this could be a breakout year for him.
     GO SCOTS!!  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 01:16:52 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on June 28, 2007, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: SU97 on June 27, 2007, 11:19:21 PM
okay, looks like I killed off the USASAC Board this week... sorry fellas.  Somebody toss out a poem or something to kick things off again for PSBBG. 

I can't think if any poems, and I have no crazy formulas to throw out there.  I do have a few questions though and I hope it sparks some board activity.

Which team is poised to surpise some people?  Which team is poised to really disappoint? (this with knowing what teams are expected to return.)

     No bias here  ;D but the Fighting Scots may be "poised" to make a run at the conference title this year. The last few years they have lost quite a few games by small margins. If they can get those games to go their way this year, watch out.
    The Scots offense returns mostly intact. This includes the offensive coordinator position, which hasn't had much continuity recently. Of course the big loss was at QB so that will be key, particularly in the first few games. If that position can gel before the conference schedule starts, anything can happen. 
    I posted this last year but will post again. Rommel Hightower is an outstanding running back. He is only a SO. If he stays healthy and continues to improve, he will be a force in the conference. With most of the O line back from last year, this could be a breakout year for him.
     GO SCOTS!!  8)

I went to all but 2 games last year for the Pride. I would say that I really liked Hightower (wasn't that the name of Bubba Smith's character in the movie Police Academy.)  Anyway, Rommel Hightower was my favorite RB of the ones I saw. I think he is a talented back who will really help Maryville this year.  Replacing a QB is always an issue for any team that would be one of my concerns.  How is the defense going to be I read that article on Maryville's website.  Losing 4 core guys, as the article said, but returning 7 isn't too bad.  Maryville's defense did give up almost 29 pts a game last year. However I do think you have a good arguement for the Scots

"We came through spring with the most returning players (65) since I've been here," Ierulli said.
http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=3&id=2018

65!!!

I saw that you had transfer RB from Lenoir-Rhyne. (They are trying him at safety) I don't think you need to worry about a QB, you could always run the wishbone offense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 28, 2007, 01:40:04 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 27, 2007, 11:19:21 PM
okay, looks like I killed off the USASAC Board this week... sorry fellas.  Somebody toss out a poem or something to kick things off again for PSBBG. 

There once was a 'baller from Nantucket
During the off season, said F$%# - it

didn't condition
now he's in position

in August to be puking in a bucket
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 28, 2007, 01:41:54 PM
 Now that was good!!! Bring on da Karma, baby!!!! :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 02:08:44 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 28, 2007, 01:40:04 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 27, 2007, 11:19:21 PM
okay, looks like I killed off the USASAC Board this week... sorry fellas.  Somebody toss out a poem or something to kick things off again for PSBBG. 

There once was a 'baller from Nantucket
During the off season, said F$%# - it

didn't condition
now he's in position

in August to be puking in a bucket

Very good!

Quote from: CNU85 on June 28, 2007, 01:41:54 PM
Now that was good!!! Bring on da Karma, baby!!!! :D

If you ask you shall receieve
This karma is for you I believe
CNU85 I hope this helps your stress
But with this poem my karma should be less
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 28, 2007, 02:17:41 PM
plus one for you!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 28, 2007, 02:58:38 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 01:16:52 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on June 28, 2007, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: SU97 on June 27, 2007, 11:19:21 PM
okay, looks like I killed off the USASAC Board this week... sorry fellas.  Somebody toss out a poem or something to kick things off again for PSBBG. 

I can't think if any poems, and I have no crazy formulas to throw out there.  I do have a few questions though and I hope it sparks some board activity.

Which team is poised to surpise some people?  Which team is poised to really disappoint? (this with knowing what teams are expected to return.)

     No bias here  ;D but the Fighting Scots may be "poised" to make a run at the conference title this year. The last few years they have lost quite a few games by small margins. If they can get those games to go their way this year, watch out.
    The Scots offense returns mostly intact. This includes the offensive coordinator position, which hasn't had much continuity recently. Of course the big loss was at QB so that will be key, particularly in the first few games. If that position can gel before the conference schedule starts, anything can happen. 
    I posted this last year but will post again. Rommel Hightower is an outstanding running back. He is only a SO. If he stays healthy and continues to improve, he will be a force in the conference. With most of the O line back from last year, this could be a breakout year for him.
     GO SCOTS!!  8)

I went to all but 2 games last year for the Pride. I would say that I really liked Hightower (wasn't that the name of Bubba Smith's character in the movie Police Academy.)  Anyway, Rommel Hightower was my favorite RB of the ones I saw. I think he is a talented back who will really help Maryville this year.  Replacing a QB is always an issue for any team that would be one of my concerns.  How is the defense going to be I read that article on Maryville's website.  Losing 4 core guys, as the article said, but returning 7 isn't too bad.  Maryville's defense did give up almost 29 pts a game last year. However I do think you have a good arguement for the Scots

"We came through spring with the most returning players (65) since I've been here," Ierulli said.
http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=3&id=2018

65!!!

I saw that you had transfer RB from Lenoir-Rhyne. (They are trying him at safety) I don't think you need to worry about a QB, you could always run the wishbone offense.

     Not sure on the D. Losing the quality players that they did will surely be tough to replace. I read the same article you did. It looks like they will be deeper on D than they have been but not sure about the talent level. My gut feeling is they will be a better overall team than the past few years but they will still need to get a few breaks (stay injury free and win the close ones) in order to be a contender.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 03:11:26 PM
I am working on something new here.  I am trying to figure out how one career of a player from one USASouth school compares to another player of another school.  I have just came up with one concept so far and it this for WR's.

I took Torrey Lowe and compared him to two WR's of CNU.  Here is what I came up with.

Nathan Davis 796
George Jones 904.

The closer you are to 1,000 the closer your career resembles to the player being compared.  Some of you may think you have seen this before, its quite possible.  This concept is from Bill James' book,  The Politics of Glory (p. 86-106) It is a concept for comparing baseball players.  I have taken the basic parameters and used football statistics instead.

I think if you compare the two careers of Torrey Lowe and George Jones you will find they are quite similar.

I brought this up because someone noted earlier, comparing Chris Roncketti of Methodist and Cedric Townsend of NCWC.  Once I figure out the scoring system I will see how they compare.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 28, 2007, 03:17:24 PM
<-- Big fan of Bill James' similarity scores.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 04:35:01 PM
ok I think I have all the needed stats covered.  I didn't use the Effic% because it should be already worked into the stats I used.  I wanted to include fumbles but those stats aren't together in the record books.  I wanted to compare Chris Roncketti of Methodist and Cedric Townsend of NCWC. The following is thier number (first 3 years)

Player
Chris Methodist
Cedric NCWC
GP
29
21
P Comp
230
240
P Att
483
426
P Yard
3060
3340
P TD
16
23
INT
24
8
Com %
47.6
56.3
R Att
248
184
R Yard
1159
834
R TD
25
11

I use my determined numbers and I came up with 931 out of 1000, when you compare the two QB's.  I am assuming that you all want to see my numbers to where I drew the comparison.

One point is subtracted for the difference of every 4 GP
-For 14 PA
-For 7 PC (50% completion)
-For 100 P Yard
-For 3 P TD
-For 3 INT
-For .5 COMP %
-For 5 R ATT
-For 20 R Yard
-For 3 R TD

I think my numbers look solid.  If anyone feels the numbers need to be tweeked then I will try to get them as close as possible as needed.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 05:16:33 PM
This could be a year full of surprises. NCWC, Maryville, Greensboro, CNU of course, Methodist, Ferrum and yes even SU and Averett have the potential to pull a few upsets.

All the teams look like they are set to play a tough out of conference schedule and depending on who comes out of the gate (first 3 games) the strongest may have the upper edge.

CNU is going to be there, but from what I witnessed last year, NCWC, Maryville, and Methodist could be hanging right there with them at the close. Averett, SU, Greensboro and Ferrum could also pull some major upsets and make this thing go right down to the wire.

Natually I am betting on Averett to be there but what do I know. I am just a washed up old offensive center that had his brains beat out 40 thousand times and have mash potatoes for knees.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 06:59:49 PM
Can anyone explain to me this EA Sports Elite 11 camp or whatever it is?  Is it some hyped up, means nothing idea or does it have any weight what so ever anywhere?  I saw there are quite a few big names that were once on the list.  It included Matt Leinert.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 28, 2007, 07:14:32 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 05, 2007, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: narch on June 05, 2007, 02:25:01 PM

secondly, this is how the conference will finish out this season:
cnu (first outright champion)
ncwc
mu, m'ville, averett (tie)
gboro, ferrum (tie)
su


Not so sure if CNU is such a slam dunk this year Narch, they lose 24 TD's from 2006 with Hilliard and Jones graduating - and as long as NCWC is returning Townsen, Bush and Haywood, I am thinking they might be the team to beat.  Cedric Townsen was by far the best talent I saw on the field last year. 

Kickerdad - I'm sticking to CNU and NCWC leading the pack. I keep hearing that Maryville has a strong group of upperclassmen returning, which in my mind is an important piece of the puzzle.  Outside of that I think the rest of the conference is in a fight for those 3rd-6th place slots.  I also thin that AU has lost way too much talent due to graduation and will have a very tough season ahead.  SU has nowhere to go but up. ;D


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 28, 2007, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 28, 2007, 07:14:32 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 05, 2007, 09:11:09 PM
Quote from: narch on June 05, 2007, 02:25:01 PM

secondly, this is how the conference will finish out this season:
cnu (first outright champion)
ncwc
mu, m'ville, averett (tie)
gboro, ferrum (tie)
su


     
Not so sure if CNU is such a slam dunk this year Narch, they lose 24 TD's from 2006 with Hilliard and Jones graduating - and as long as NCWC is returning Townsen, Bush and Haywood, I am thinking they might be the team to beat.  Cedric Townsen was by far the best talent I saw on the field last year. 

Kickerdad - I'm sticking to CNU and NCWC leading the pack. I keep hearing that Maryville has a strong group of upperclassmen returning, which in my mind is an important piece of the puzzle.  Outside of that I think the rest of the conference is in a fight for those 3rd-6th place slots.  I also thin that AU has lost way too much talent due to graduation and will have a very tough season ahead.  SU has nowhere to go but up. ;D




       I really don't know that much about NCWC but I think CNU is "King" until someone knocks them off.  Anyone know why the CNU/ Maryville game is being played in Williamsburg?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 08:36:31 PM
[kickerdad - I'm sticking to CNU and NCWC leading the pack. I keep hearing that Maryville has a strong group of upperclassmen returning, which in my mind is an important piece of the puzzle.  Outside of that I think the rest of the conference is in a fight for those 3rd-6th place slots.  I also thin that AU has lost way too much talent due to graduation and will have a very tough season ahead.  SU has nowhere to go but up. ;D



[/quote]

       I really don't know that much about NCWC but I think CNU is "King" until someone knocks them off.  Anyone know why the CNU/ Maryville game is being played in Williamsburg?


[/quote]
I think someones SID doesn't know the difference between Williamsburg and Newport News. CNU has it on their schedule as a home game (Newport News)

SU - I am sure you are right but if I said anything different, they would tar and feather me here at home and at Averett.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 28, 2007, 08:59:21 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 06, 2007, 10:23:24 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 06, 2007, 09:18:09 AM
CNU always seems to put it together.  Too count them out is just plain maddness.

Not counting the captains out - just saying it could be a tight race to the finish.   

I do think CNU is the front runner, just think that if NCWC returns the core talent they had last year it could be really interesting. 

CNU is in a different situation than the rest of the conference with recruiting, although CNU85 has mentioned the increasing admissions standards at CNU may have an impact on their team (maybe that was on the hoops board from the winter, can't remember).  It seems to me that the rest of the schools in the conference would not be able to sustain that type of dominance because of the challenges they face in bringing in kids.  Curious, I'd like to examine this a little more, but I don't have a piece of information needed:  do you guys know how many kids start in camp at each school? 

SU starts each year with 115-125 players, probably 60+ are frosh.  What about the other schools in the conference?  I ask because I wonder if part of CNU's dominance is related to an issue that I assume the rest of our schools deal with:  that football is an enrollment tool in addition to the sporting aspect.  I would wonder if that is even a consideration at CNU.  Does the administration care if CNU has 130 kids on the roster or 100? 

CNU85 - any thoughts?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 28, 2007, 09:00:30 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 08:36:31 PM


SU - I am sure you are right but if I said anything different, they would tar and feather me here at home and at Averett.

Understood.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 09:01:07 PM
CNU does lose 70+% of their offense, but they are still my favorites to win.  They lose Rob on defense but, I am not convinced that the defense will be bad as others have already posted.  Still my favorite.

I am going to say this I am not convinced on NCWC at all, I know they return alot of players I think thier schedule is tough. They start at Wesley not an easy game. After that Widener at home, again not an easy game.  Next is Emory & Henry they could beat them, but USASouth didn't fair well against ODAC last year. Next is at Methodist, it is never easy to go in there in win, historically a tough place to go play.  Later in the season they have to go on the road to CNU and Averett.  More tough road games.  Easily could have 4 losses and 4 losses won't win the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on June 28, 2007, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 08:36:31 PM
       I really don't know that much about NCWC but I think CNU is "King" until someone knocks them off.  Anyone know why the CNU/ Maryville game is being played in Williamsburg?


I think someones SID doesn't know the difference between Williamsburg and Newport News. CNU has it on their schedule as a home game (Newport News)

This is just a theory, but last year's USA South football media day was held in Williamsburg and CNU was officially its host. Maybe that's where someone got the mental link between that city and school.

Though I suppose its possible the game could be played in Williamsburg. It's no weirder than Averett and W&L playing a game in Salem.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 09:08:15 PM
Did forget to mention this, the USASouth Preseason poll comes out in 20 days.  (In the past it has been released on the third wednesday of July. So it should be out in 20 days.  ;D )
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 28, 2007, 09:10:33 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 09:08:15 PM
Did forget to mention this, the USASouth Preseason poll comes out in 20 days.  (In the past it has been released on the third wednesday of July. So it should be out in 20 days.  ;D )

PSBBG:  How many guys start in preseason camp at GC?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 28, 2007, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 28, 2007, 01:40:04 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 27, 2007, 11:19:21 PM
okay, looks like I killed off the USASAC Board this week... sorry fellas.  Somebody toss out a poem or something to kick things off again for PSBBG. 

There once was a 'baller from Nantucket
During the off season, said F$%# - it

didn't condition
now he's in position

in August to be puking in a bucket
I've met Tom Brady and you, sir, are no Tom Brady:

There was once the Pride of Nantucket
Who carried his balls in a bucket
He said with a grin
As it's Boston he's in
"If my arm takes a hit I could tuck it!"   :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 09:40:07 PM
Quote from: SU97 on June 28, 2007, 09:10:33 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 28, 2007, 09:08:15 PM
Did forget to mention this, the USASouth Preseason poll comes out in 20 days.  (In the past it has been released on the third wednesday of July. So it should be out in 20 days.  ;D )

PSBBG:  How many guys start in preseason camp at GC?

Not as many as the 115-125 as you say start at SU.  It is usually what you see is what you get.  90-100 people usually show up to camp.  We aren't much smaller than SU but using d3football enrollment number we do have 623 less students.  So I would say 90-100 is fairly high. I think any school would want more though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 28, 2007, 10:38:20 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on June 28, 2007, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 08:36:31 PM
       I really don't know that much about NCWC but I think CNU is "King" until someone knocks them off.  Anyone know why the CNU/ Maryville game is being played in Williamsburg?


I think someones SID doesn't know the difference between Williamsburg and Newport News. CNU has it on their schedule as a home game (Newport News)

This is just a theory, but last year's USA South football media day was held in Williamsburg and CNU was officially its host. Maybe that's where someone got the mental link between that city and school.

Though I suppose its possible the game could be played in Williamsburg. It's no weirder than Averett and W&L playing a game in Salem.

     I sent an email to Etch at MC to see what the skinny is on this.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 10:40:41 PM
I understand the game between Averett & W&L will be a fund raising game for Habatit for Humainty (not sure I spelled that right). Not sure I understand why Salem either other than it may generate a bigger gate. Again don't know how that can happen unless both schools load up the buses for the students.

It appeared to me that the last two years at Averett they had somewhere close to 140 to 150 show up at the beginning of training camp. Dunlevy weeded those out real quick the first 3 days with the required running drills and times that had to be made. Then by the end of 2nd week, they may have been down to 100 - 110, and by the start of the season 100.

I am curious and this question is for the CNU guys.... how do you think the upstart of football at Old Dominion will impact CNU's recruiting in the Tidewater Area. I know for a fact that CNU pulls heavily from this area, but just curious what the pro's at CNU think this will do to their recruiting in this area.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 28, 2007, 10:53:24 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 10:40:41 PM

It appeared to me that the last two years at Averett they had somewhere close to 140 to 150 show up at the beginning of training camp. Dunlevy weeded those out real quick the first 3 days with the required running drills and times that had to be made. Then by the end of 2nd week, they may have been down to 100 - 110, and by the start of the season 100.


Thanks Kickerdad and PSBBG, anybody else with any stats on this?


Quote from: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 10:40:41 PM
I am curious and this question is for the CNU guys.... how do you think the upstart of football at Old Dominion will impact CNU's recruiting in the Tidewater Area. I know for a fact that CNU pulls heavily from this area, but just curious what the pro's at CNU think this will do to their recruiting in this area.


I'm definately not a CNU fan...  but will toss in my 2 cents worth:  ODU adding a squad at Foreman Field won't make a difference at all to CNU.  The talent and physical tools needed to compete at the D-I AA level is a higher level athlete than the typical DIII prospect, if ODU is impacting CNU's recruiting pool then ODU has got some major problems ahead.  (Now if VWC added football...  that's another story)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 10:59:12 PM
I have wondered all these years why VWC hasn't gone with football. They certainly have the land space and I think their enrollment is up there in comparision with some of the  other USA South schools.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 28, 2007, 11:01:41 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 10:59:12 PM
I have wondered all these years why VWC hasn't gone with football. They certainly have the land space and I think their enrollment is up there in comparision with some of the  other USA South schools.

'cause it wasn't cool 'till SU did it... ;D

sorry, bad joke.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 28, 2007, 11:03:11 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 10:40:41 PM
I understand the game between Averett & W&L will be a fund raising game for Habatit for Humainty (not sure I spelled that right). Not sure I understand why Salem either other than it may generate a bigger gate. Again don't know how that can happen unless both schools load up the buses for the students.

It appeared to me that the last two years at Averett they had somewhere close to 140 to 150 show up at the beginning of training camp. Dunlevy weeded those out real quick the first 3 days with the required running drills and times that had to be made. Then by the end of 2nd week, they may have been down to 100 - 110, and by the start of the season 100.

I am curious and this question is for the CNU guys.... how do you think the upstart of football at Old Dominion will impact CNU's recruiting in the Tidewater Area. I know for a fact that CNU pulls heavily from this area, but just curious what the pro's at CNU think this will do to their recruiting in this area.


     Is it possible that W&L and Averett agreed to a one year contract at a neutral site?  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 29, 2007, 12:18:52 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 10:59:12 PM
I have wondered all these years why VWC hasn't gone with football. They certainly have the land space and I think their enrollment is up there in comparision with some of the  other USA South schools.
NACUBO (http://www.nacubo.org/documents/research/2006NES_Listing.pdf) says that the VWC endowment is $45M+.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on June 29, 2007, 08:37:13 AM
I am pretty sure that Averett and W&L both wanted home games but couldnt agree so the next best thing was to just play at a neutral site....and what better than the site of the D3 national championship game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 29, 2007, 09:06:22 AM
Quote from: SU97 on June 28, 2007, 10:53:24 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 10:40:41 PM
I am curious and this question is for the CNU guys.... how do you think the upstart of football at Old Dominion will impact CNU's recruiting in the Tidewater Area. I know for a fact that CNU pulls heavily from this area, but just curious what the pro's at CNU think this will do to their recruiting in this area.


I'm definately not a CNU fan...  but will toss in my 2 cents worth:  ODU adding a squad at Foreman Field won't make a difference at all to CNU.  The talent and physical tools needed to compete at the D-I AA level is a higher level athlete than the typical DIII prospect, if ODU is impacting CNU's recruiting pool then ODU has got some major problems ahead.  (Now if VWC added football...  that's another story)

Kickerdad-
I have asked that question before and have accepted that same anwser from SU97, and believe CNU85 has had the same response.

Now what do I think?  First off how good will they be if Coach Kelchner leaves and takes a higher paying job either at another d3school or at a higher level. I don't blame him for doing it.  He has done a fine job and should be rewarded.

Ok about ODU. CNU relies mostly on VA talent, that can't be argued. At the present time there may very well be a few D1AA prospects over in that area CNU recruits.  The rest d2 and d3 at this point CNU is unaffected.  Now if I am high school player with a D1AA school in my backyard wouldn't I be motivated to work harder, play harder etc so that I get noticed.  I think the area will become a better football area.  I don't know anything about VA high school football, so I ask this where are some of the top high school football programs located?  Would they happen to be within a certain radius of college football programs?

Does anyone think any of the players that played at CNU could have been D1-AA players? Rob Rodriquez maybe? Maybe a few others. They may never be an All-American at ODU but they probably could easily be an everyday player.  Where would CNU be without them.  There are quite a few players out there that would rather not play d3 so they go to a d1AA school or a d2 school.  They ride the bench for 4 years.  CNU could be affected by other players ignorance. (I hope if the kid really wants to play football that after two years of not playing he transfers. In that sense CNU could land the player.)  Then it becomes what is more important to a player, football or an education.  If you take Narch's arguement and say CNU becomes a school of transfers, freshman will refuse to even apply to CNU and go elsewhere. (I don't agree with the arguement for many reasons, which I won't get into now.) If it becomes a problem down the road that talent becomes depleted coaches look elsewhere.  That is the what a good coach does.  Look out of state, look in another part of the state.  Money becomes a problem then for students.

In summary, If 0% means unaffected and 100% means affected completely then I say in the short-run 15% and in the long run around 35-40%.

Sorry for the long post everyone.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 29, 2007, 09:17:07 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 29, 2007, 09:06:22 AM
Quote from: SU97 on June 28, 2007, 10:53:24 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 10:40:41 PM
I am curious and this question is for the CNU guys.... how do you think the upstart of football at Old Dominion will impact CNU's recruiting in the Tidewater Area. I know for a fact that CNU pulls heavily from this area, but just curious what the pro's at CNU think this will do to their recruiting in this area.


I'm definately not a CNU fan...  but will toss in my 2 cents worth:  ODU adding a squad at Foreman Field won't make a difference at all to CNU.  The talent and physical tools needed to compete at the D-I AA level is a higher level athlete than the typical DIII prospect, if ODU is impacting CNU's recruiting pool then ODU has got some major problems ahead.  (Now if VWC added football...  that's another story)

Kickerdad-
I have asked that question before and have accepted that same anwser from SU97, and believe CNU85 has had the same response.

Now what do I think?  First off how good will they be if Coach Kelchner leaves and takes a higher paying job either at another d3school or at a higher level. I don't blame him for doing it.  He has done a fine job and should be rewarded.

Ok about ODU. CNU relies mostly on VA talent, that can't be argued. At the present time there may very well be a few D1AA prospects over in that area CNU recruits.  The rest d2 and d3 at this point CNU is unaffected.  Now if I am high school player with a D1AA school in my backyard wouldn't I be motivated to work harder, play harder etc so that I get noticed.  I think the area will become a better football area.  I don't know anything about VA high school football, so I ask this where are some of the top high school football programs located?  Would they happen to be within a certain radius of college football programs?

Does anyone think any of the players that played at CNU could have been D1-AA players? Rob Rodriquez maybe? Maybe a few others. They may never be an All-American at ODU but they probably could easily be an everyday player.  Where would CNU be without them.  There are quite a few players out there that would rather not play d3 so they go to a d1AA school or a d2 school.  They ride the bench for 4 years.  CNU could be affected by other players ignorance. (I hope if the kid really wants to play football that after two years of not playing he transfers. In that sense CNU could land the player.)  Then it becomes what is more important to a player, football or an education.  If you take Narch's arguement and say CNU becomes a school of transfers, freshman will refuse to even apply to CNU and go elsewhere. (I don't agree with the arguement for many reasons, which I won't get into now.) If it becomes a problem down the road that talent becomes depleted coaches look elsewhere.  That is the what a good coach does.  Look out of state, look in another part of the state.  Money becomes a problem then for students.

In summary, If 0% means unaffected and 100% means affected completely then I say in the short-run 15% and in the long run around 35-40%.

Sorry for the long post everyone.


     The Tidewater area is a hotbed of high school football. Numerous D1 and I'm sure others come from this area on a regular basis. However, I doubt very seriously that CNU and ODU will be recruiting the same guys. Perhaps on rare occasion. If they are, then I suspect ODU is in serious trouble.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 29, 2007, 09:28:16 AM
I think there may be a couple guys a year that CNU is recruiting who choose to walk on at ODU for a chance to play I-AA football.

Those guys may bounce back to CNU when they find it's not what they expected.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on June 29, 2007, 09:28:44 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 29, 2007, 09:06:22 AM
Ok about ODU. CNU relies mostly on VA talent, that can't be argued. At the present time there may very well be a few D1AA prospects over in that area CNU recruits.  The rest d2 and d3 at this point CNU is unaffected.  Now if I am high school player with a D1AA school in my backyard wouldn't I be motivated to work harder, play harder etc so that I get noticed.  I think the area will become a better football area.  I don't know anything about VA high school football, so I ask this where are some of the top high school football programs located?  Would they happen to be within a certain radius of college football programs?


Best football in the Commonwealth...  of course I'm going to be a little biased having grown up on the southside...  

On another note:  thank you for calling it Tidewater - I HATE the term "Hampton Roads."  The worst part of the drive back home is always I-64.  Tidewater Tides saw Mookie, Straw and Doc (granted, rehab) come through along with providing talent for an 86 World Series ring...  while Norfolk Tides have SOLD OUT to the the O's, of all teams...

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 29, 2007, 09:47:24 AM
Quote from: SU97 on June 29, 2007, 09:28:44 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 29, 2007, 09:06:22 AM
Ok about ODU. CNU relies mostly on VA talent, that can't be argued. At the present time there may very well be a few D1AA prospects over in that area CNU recruits.  The rest d2 and d3 at this point CNU is unaffected.  Now if I am high school player with a D1AA school in my backyard wouldn't I be motivated to work harder, play harder etc so that I get noticed.  I think the area will become a better football area.  I don't know anything about VA high school football, so I ask this where are some of the top high school football programs located?  Would they happen to be within a certain radius of college football programs?


Best football in the Commonwealth...  of course I'm going to be a little biased having grown up on the southside...  

On another note:  thank you for calling it Tidewater - I HATE the term "Hampton Roads."  The worst part of the drive back home is always I-64.  Tidewater Tides saw Mookie, Straw and Doc (granted, rehab) come through along with providing talent for an 86 World Series ring...  while Norfolk Tides have SOLD OUT to the the O's, of all teams...



I grew up in MD and I do feel sorry for you.  The O's might as well say have hit the bucket.

I did forget to mention one other thing.  There are even some players that get to be really good once they go to a big program.  One name in recent years, (I am still a MD football fan) who played at MD wasn't recruited at all and ended up being an AA.  EJ Henderson.  So CNU will have to deal with those types of players.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 29, 2007, 12:28:15 PM
From what I have read on both web sites the Averett/W&L will be a two year deal and both games will be at Salem.

About CNU and ODU, I wonder how many guys went to CNU because they wanted to stay in the area and in reality they could have played at a 1-AA or even 1A but refused to go out of the area.

SU - what part of this area are you from. Did you attend school locally here?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 29, 2007, 12:55:15 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 29, 2007, 12:28:15 PM
From what I have read on both web sites the Averett/W&L will be a two year deal and both games will be at Salem.

About CNU and ODU, I wonder how many guys went to CNU because they wanted to stay in the area and in reality they could have played at a 1-AA or even 1A but refused to go out of the area.
SU - what part of this area are you from. Did you attend school locally here?

     I don't know for sure but I suspect not many. I would think most legit I-AA players wouldn't have a problem leaving, especially if they were on scholarship. Besides, two options, W&M and U of R aren't that far up the road. I think it much more likely (as Pat mentioned) that they might try I-AA and then end up back at a D3 like CNU when they realize that either the coach that recruited them was blowing sunshine or their ego was just too big.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 29, 2007, 01:03:34 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on June 29, 2007, 12:55:15 PM
I don't know for sure but I suspect not many. I would think most legit I-AA players wouldn't have a problem leaving, especially if they were on scholarship. Besides, two options, W&M and U of R aren't that far up the road. I think it much more likely (as Pat mentioned) that they might try I-AA and then end up back at a D3 like CNU when they realize that either the coach that recruited them was blowing sunshine or their ego was just too big.  ;D

True.  What if CNU was recruiting that player decides to transfer?  I am not saying they will drop the scholarship and go d3, but if there was an option for them to play and they don't see the chance at either W&M or U of R.  CNU would be a good fit if they want to win because of thier history of winning.

What is that rule if you transfer within the same division you sit out?  Or no matter where you transfer you have to sit out?  I thought the rule is if you switched divisions you don't have to sit out?  Pat what is that rule?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 29, 2007, 01:10:53 PM
Pride,

You make good points and certainly this discussion could go for ever. I will say this, my son's dream was to play Division 1. He was a decent kicker but when it came time to send off film and apply, two things killed him. One, his high school team hadn't won but 2 games in two years. So his highlight film was from practices, warmups and only a hand full of games. He had the distance but the coach refused to kick outside the 20. So word of mouth and very little game film hurt him. Second, all the D1 schools in Virginia had gotten their kickers the year before. Tech had Pace, UVA had Hughes, JMU had the guy from Franklin. Richmond was interested but unless he got a full ride, I couldn't afford $43,000 @ year. Out of state was out of the question as well unless he got a ride.

To make a long story short, all he wanted to do was play/kick and not ride the bench and his mom and I felt he would be better off in a small college arena because he wasn't knocking them dead with SAT's and 4.0 average. He was accepted at two D2 schools (Liberty and UVA Wise) but chose Averett because he was offered a chance to start. He made the best of it and I won't lie, he has had a few bad games (I wanted to kill him) due to mental errors but overall, he has done good. And the best part is his grades this past semester was the best since elem. school. All "A's" So nothing wrong with D3 schools, we have enjoyed the games and met some real nice folks from all the schools. (even Mt. Union) haha It is amazing who you find to talk to and become friends with while tailgating.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on June 29, 2007, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 29, 2007, 01:03:34 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on June 29, 2007, 12:55:15 PM
I don't know for sure but I suspect not many. I would think most legit I-AA players wouldn't have a problem leaving, especially if they were on scholarship. Besides, two options, W&M and U of R aren't that far up the road. I think it much more likely (as Pat mentioned) that they might try I-AA and then end up back at a D3 like CNU when they realize that either the coach that recruited them was blowing sunshine or their ego was just too big.  ;D

True.  What if CNU was recruiting that player decides to transfer?  I am not saying they will drop the scholarship and go d3, but if there was an option for them to play and they don't see the chance at either W&M or U of R.  CNU would be a good fit if they want to win because of thier history of winning.

What is that rule if you transfer within the same division you sit out?  Or no matter where you transfer you have to sit out?  I thought the rule is if you switched divisions you don't have to sit out?  Pat what is that rule?

     I'm sure Pat will correct me if I am wrong but I think as long as you transfer to a lower division, you do not have to sit out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 29, 2007, 02:21:39 PM
Correct. If you're moving "down" a level you can be eligible right away, assuming you were eligible at the school you left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 29, 2007, 02:50:27 PM
What happens if you want to transfer up?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 29, 2007, 02:58:59 PM
And by the way, where are all the Averett fans that used be on this board. Don't leave me hanging out here all alone with these pro's. Come on support your team, be proud.......hell look at the Redskin fans....they can,t beat anyone lately but they still have a stadium full of die hard fans.

Just because we don't have the facilities of CNU or history of Ferrum or size of CNU doesn't mean you have to be shy and not support your team. Those guys need to know you are out there for them, win or lose.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 29, 2007, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 29, 2007, 09:28:16 AM
I think there may be a couple guys a year that CNU is recruiting who choose to walk on at ODU for a chance to play I-AA football.

Those guys may bounce back to CNU when they find it's not what they expected.

that hits the nail on the head.

PSBBG - this area (area code 757) is one of the top areas in the country for high school football.....many go to D1, NFL, and we have several Pro Football Hall of Fame inductees from right here in our back yard. My brother, wife, and I all went to high school with eventual NFL starters. My daughter goes to a school that boasts someone in the HOF (as well as some guy alleged to be involved with pit bulls). I think, if ODU does it right - they will have more impact on D1 and D1-AA schools - like W&M, UR, JMU......and some kids who want to play closer to home may not go to VT or UVA, although now you're talking about academic impact as well.......soooooo many variables.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 29, 2007, 03:40:41 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 29, 2007, 02:50:27 PM
What happens if you want to transfer up?

You sit a year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 29, 2007, 04:40:18 PM
Did any of you see this article?

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6974498?MSNHPHMA

I wanted to point this out because I thought there were some d3 players that play over there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on June 29, 2007, 05:36:42 PM
Heres an Averett fan...Mr. Thurnes
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 30, 2007, 08:32:27 AM
Wrong kickerdad
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on July 01, 2007, 03:17:26 PM
oh, sorry well i am still an averett fan now that the playing days are over
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 01, 2007, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: Parsons on July 01, 2007, 03:17:26 PM
oh, sorry well i am still an averett fan now that the playing days are over

Parsons:  Heck of a career, welcome to the board.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 01, 2007, 03:53:28 PM
Quote from: Parsons on July 01, 2007, 03:17:26 PM
oh, sorry well i am still an averett fan now that the playing days are over
Parsons - If you're who I think you are, you were a really fine player for AU.  I made the trip from Greensboro to Danville last year to watch the Cougars and the Quakers.  It looked promising at the half, but you and your team smoked us in the 2nd.  Good luck to you!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on July 01, 2007, 07:54:28 PM
thanks a lot i appreciate that...i would always read the posts on here but thought it was best for me to stay out of the conversations while i was still playing...but i am a huge D3 football fan and love to talk about it
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 01, 2007, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: Parsons on July 01, 2007, 07:54:28 PM
thanks a lot i appreciate that...i would always read the posts on here but thought it was best for me to stay out of the conversations while i was still playing...but i am a huge D3 football fan and love to talk about it

yeah...you made me nervous a few times....including the time a few years back when i drove to Danville....curious on your email address....what are the numbers??? 17....TDs tosses last year?? or just numbers assigned by aol? whatya doing back in PA?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on July 01, 2007, 08:18:13 PM
17 was my number for football in high school and 11 was my basketball number...i am just back home for now, i have accepted a GA position at Mcdaniel College so i will be coaching there and getting a masters in sports administration
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 01, 2007, 09:43:43 PM
Parsons-

Good for you.  Of all the QB's, I saw the last two years you were one I enjoyed watching.  You are a smart player and clearly a leader on the field.  If you can coach half as good as you can QB, you will be a fine coach.  After your master's what do you want to do?  Coach high school or college or what?  I know quite a few high school coaches about an hour east of McDaniel that I keep in contact with (I grew up an hour east of McDaniel), that would love to have your experience and knowledge on the sidelines with them.  In fact some might want you on the sidelines now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 01, 2007, 09:45:38 PM
wll knowing the way thy do bussiness in the NFL they will probably start a new lagu here to compete with the new league being talked about by Mark Cuban

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 29, 2007, 04:40:18 PM
Did any of you see this article?

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6974498?MSNHPHMA

I wanted to point this out because I thought there were some d3 players that play over there.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 01, 2007, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 01, 2007, 09:45:38 PM
wll knowing the way thy do bussiness in the NFL they will probably start a new lagu here to compete with the new league being talked about by Mark Cuban

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on June 29, 2007, 04:40:18 PM
Did any of you see this article?

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/6974498?MSNHPHMA

I wanted to point this out because I thought there were some d3 players that play over there.


I hope they do start another league.  I am very disappointed in the NFL for shutting down NFL Europe.  It gave guys chances to play. I did read that Mark Cuban article.  He wants to play the games on friday nights.  Not too sure about that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on July 01, 2007, 10:11:02 PM
right now i think im am going to try to stay on the college level and try to work my way up
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 01, 2007, 10:12:07 PM
Hey -- a belated welcome to the board. As a former player it's good to have you around. Bring teammates. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 02, 2007, 09:53:26 AM
On the ODAC board they were/are talking about final exams for Mount Union, which prompted me to look at graduation rates.  I came across an interesting number for Methodist.  It appears that there is 52% transfer rate at methodist.  Now does that mean how many transfer in or how many transfer out.

Based on the website I found the information it looks like the number who trasfer out, but I am not sure about that.  Who replaces the transfers is my question more transfers or more freshman.

http://www.graduationwatch.org/select.php (You need to do a search.  You have to search by state, city, then school.)

Many of the other schools(USASouth) are between about 19-30%

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 02, 2007, 10:09:59 AM
Quote from: Parsons on July 01, 2007, 03:17:26 PM
oh, sorry well i am still an averett fan now that the playing days are over

Todd,

This is Chris's dad, belated congrats on a great season last year. I didn't get a chance to talk to you at the dinner and wasn't able to catch up with you at Spring Practice. Hope your summer is going OK and best of luck with your future at McDaniel. I am sure you will do good at coaching.

Any inside information you can share on the board as to who has the inside path at QB for Averett this coming year. I know they have been grooming SB but there were some new faces in Spring Camp that I had never seen.

Don't give any secrets away, you can email me if you want. Don't want Shaw getting his blood pressure up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on July 02, 2007, 04:43:33 PM
Thanks, I couldnt tell you whos has the adavantage for the QB spot now.  Thats the one thing I liked about our coaches is that everybody had to earn their spot during camp regardless if you started the year before or not.  I know that the battle for this position is going to be one to watch and will come down to who put in the effort during the summer.  Fairbanks has the most expirience in game situations (at the QB spot), Harbaugh is coming back over from defense who has an arm and can run, and Dixon the new comer this spring will give both of these guys a run for their money once he is comfortable with the offense (he has an arm and can move!) And who knows what kind of freshman they got coming in.  I am sure whoever EARNS the spot will do just fine.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on July 02, 2007, 05:04:53 PM
Stryffler and Rennegar will also be in this mix but are both still young but will make the decision even harder for the coaches.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 03, 2007, 09:14:16 AM
Parsons-

What is your take on how the conference will finish?  Some posters believe that Averett lost too much to finish well.  Other's think they will be alright.  I am going to post what I said earlier about the teams.

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 31, 2007, 11:56:20 AM
With everyone posting preseason picks I will throw out mine.

Averett- Worst case 4-6.  Best Case 7-3.  Expected 6-4.

Averett may be a young team but they were good last year and have improved every year. The team could be tested early having 4 away (W&L could be home not sure) games early at places where teams have been playing well lately.  The young team could go 1-3 at best 2-2.  Averett was a different team on the road last year and without the senior leadership they could lose those close games they won.

CNU- Worst Case 5-5.  Best Case 8-2.  Expected 7-3

This might be the beginning of the end for CNU football.  Old Dominion is going to have football team.  Although not this season, but recruiting could actually be tough the next couple of years.  They lost 9 seniors.  Many thought last year they weren't going to be great.  This is CNU football when isn't CNU at the top.  Haven't seen a schedule, so predictions are somewhat blind.  The two losses they had last season are coming to POMOCO.  Not an easy place to play.

Ferrum- Worst case 2-8.  Best Case 5-5.  Expected 3-7.

What happened to Ferrum last year.  They showed flashes of good and flashes of just plain bad.  The first two games should show where they stand for the rest of the season.  Average to below average teams.  They graduate quite a few players from a team that went 2-7.  They get CNU and Averett at home this year.  Could be good wins if they play like they did at home like they have done in past years.  I wouldn't bet on it though.

Greensboro Worst Case 3-7  Best Case 6-4  Expected 5-5.

The pass defense was top in the conference.  4 of the top 10 tacklers were freshman or sophmore.  The ROY on defense is coming back.  It looks like most of the defense is coming back.  Biggest issue will be the offense and TO's which seems to have plagued this team for years.  Big parts of the O-Line will be back and of course All-Athlete Torrey Lowe.  Plus a new offensive coach.  Worked with the spread offense at NC A&T(check website for article.) Not expecting great things but 5-5 will be best in program history.

Maryville Worst Case 3-7  Best Case 6-4.  Expected 5-5

Maryville had an up and down season.  They were a very good or a very lucky 5-5 team.  Won some close games last year. They are going to need some of that luck this year.  Schedule plays in thier favor early on.  If they get enough momentum going they could finish above 5-5.  Concern is the defense it was ok, but if they want to finish at the top they are going to have to do better in the redzone and get more picks.  They are going to have to do it without Colby Townsend. Traveling could wear them down.  For thier sake they better hope it doesn't.

Methodist Worst case 2-8  Best Case 6-4 Expected 4-6.

Methodist showed how important it was to have a great QB by not having one.  It was the first year without Chris Roncketti.  They are going to have to be a more consistent team if they want to return to thier greatness.  They lost some close games last year.  The offense just needs to be better.  They were a young team last year and still finished 4-6.  The experience could boost them back near the top.

NCWC Worst Case 3-7  Best Case 7-3  Expected 4-6.

NCWC lost some games last year they probably shouldn't have based on the way they played last year.  They have to travel to MU (plays well at home)  Plus go to CNU and AU never easy places to play.  They are going to Wesley and bringing in Wiedner who was 7-4.  Not easy games.  Offense was great last year and they have to bank on that.

SU Worst case 0-10  Best Case 3-7.  Expected 2-8.

For a team that only scored 88 points last year.  No one can expect much out of them.  They have to travel to the top two teams from the conferece last year.  Road won't be an easy one for them.  Haven't seen a schedule yet but I don't think it really matters.  SU needs to get themselves on the right foot.  They were the 2003 and 2004 Co-champs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 03, 2007, 01:47:26 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 02, 2007, 09:53:26 AMWho replaces the transfers is my question more transfers or more freshman.

not sure how accurate the transfer out rate for football is, but the monarchs incoming class is usually about 95% freshman
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 03, 2007, 02:03:45 PM
Quote from: narch on July 03, 2007, 01:47:26 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 02, 2007, 09:53:26 AMWho replaces the transfers is my question more transfers or more freshman.

not sure how accurate the transfer out rate for football is, but the monarchs incoming class is usually about 95% freshman

That transfer rate was for the entire student body.  I wasn't trying to imply that Methodist football had just transfers on their team.  I was just wondering why that number was so high. Would it be the cost?  I know if Methodist is a first choice school. I know a few people I grew up with transfered out of one school and go to another, because the other was thier first choice to begin with.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on July 03, 2007, 03:04:46 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 03, 2007, 09:14:16 AM
Parsons-

What is your take on how the conference will finish?  Some posters believe that Averett lost too much to finish well.  Other's think they will be alright.  I am going to post what I said earlier about the teams.

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on May 31, 2007, 11:56:20 AM
With everyone posting preseason picks I will throw out mine.

Averett- Worst case 4-6.  Best Case 7-3.  Expected 6-4.

Averett may be a young team but they were good last year and have improved every year. The team could be tested early having 4 away (W&L could be home not sure) games early at places where teams have been playing well lately.  The young team could go 1-3 at best 2-2.  Averett was a different team on the road last year and without the senior leadership they could lose those close games they won.

CNU- Worst Case 5-5.  Best Case 8-2.  Expected 7-3

This might be the beginning of the end for CNU football.  Old Dominion is going to have football team.  Although not this season, but recruiting could actually be tough the next couple of years.  They lost 9 seniors.  Many thought last year they weren't going to be great.  This is CNU football when isn't CNU at the top.  Haven't seen a schedule, so predictions are somewhat blind.  The two losses they had last season are coming to POMOCO.  Not an easy place to play.

Ferrum- Worst case 2-8.  Best Case 5-5.  Expected 3-7.

What happened to Ferrum last year.  They showed flashes of good and flashes of just plain bad.  The first two games should show where they stand for the rest of the season.  Average to below average teams.  They graduate quite a few players from a team that went 2-7.  They get CNU and Averett at home this year.  Could be good wins if they play like they did at home like they have done in past years.  I wouldn't bet on it though.

Greensboro Worst Case 3-7  Best Case 6-4  Expected 5-5.

The pass defense was top in the conference.  4 of the top 10 tacklers were freshman or sophmore.  The ROY on defense is coming back.  It looks like most of the defense is coming back.  Biggest issue will be the offense and TO's which seems to have plagued this team for years.  Big parts of the O-Line will be back and of course All-Athlete Torrey Lowe.  Plus a new offensive coach.  Worked with the spread offense at NC A&T(check website for article.) Not expecting great things but 5-5 will be best in program history.

Maryville Worst Case 3-7  Best Case 6-4.  Expected 5-5

Maryville had an up and down season.  They were a very good or a very lucky 5-5 team.  Won some close games last year. They are going to need some of that luck this year.   Schedule plays in thier favor early on.  If they get enough momentum going they could finish above 5-5.  Concern is the defense it was ok, but if they want to finish at the top they are going to have to do better in the redzone and get more picks.  They are going to have to do it without Colby Townsend. Traveling could wear them down.  For thier sake they better hope it doesn't.

Methodist Worst case 2-8  Best Case 6-4 Expected 4-6.

Methodist showed how important it was to have a great QB by not having one.  It was the first year without Chris Roncketti.  They are going to have to be a more consistent team if they want to return to thier greatness.  They lost some close games last year.  The offense just needs to be better.  They were a young team last year and still finished 4-6.  The experience could boost them back near the top.

NCWC Worst Case 3-7  Best Case 7-3  Expected 4-6.

NCWC lost some games last year they probably shouldn't have based on the way they played last year.  They have to travel to MU (plays well at home)  Plus go to CNU and AU never easy places to play.  They are going to Wesley and bringing in Wiedner who was 7-4.  Not easy games.  Offense was great last year and they have to bank on that.

SU Worst case 0-10  Best Case 3-7.  Expected 2-8.

For a team that only scored 88 points last year.  No one can expect much out of them.  They have to travel to the top two teams from the conferece last year.  Road won't be an easy one for them.  Haven't seen a schedule yet but I don't think it really matters.  SU needs to get themselves on the right foot.  They were the 2003 and 2004 Co-champs.


     I agree that the Fighting Scots had an up and down season. Not sure I would call them lucky. I only saw the Ferrum game in person but saw a solid/scrappy bunch a few quicker skill players away from being a 7-3 or 8-2 team. They were 3 and 3 in games decided by a TD or less. I admit I have a bias but I am going to disagree  :o with your prediction. I say worst case 5-5, most likely 6 -4, best case 7-3.  Even though it is not a conference game, I think the Centre game is a critical game for the Scots in week 2. They certainly can't overlook anyone but LaGrange is still a game they should win. (even though I am sure they will be an improved team) If the the Scots start out 2 and 0 and can remain healthy, 8 and 2 is not out of the question. Certainly, the Scots will need to get some breaks to do that.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 03, 2007, 03:28:38 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on July 03, 2007, 03:04:46 PM
I agree that the Fighting Scots had an up and down season. Not sure I would call them lucky

What is a Fighting Scot? I was certain it was  a reference to the Scots-Irish.  That is why I used the luck reference.  8)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1448532/posts
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 03, 2007, 04:33:52 PM
I worked for someone from England...never get English, Scotish, and Irish confused......they'll get "bloody ticked, mate" - edited for children.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 03, 2007, 10:22:05 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 03, 2007, 04:33:52 PM
I worked for someone from England...never get English, Scotish, and Irish confused......they'll get "bloody ticked, mate" - edited for children.
I know some folks from those countries as well - and you are so right!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on July 04, 2007, 07:56:27 AM
Parsons good career  man, good job up there. From one champ to another, i really enjoyed watching you play. However in '05, it was a little nerve racking in those final minutes but you showed some class out there man.

I think the reason for transfers is one of two reasons. First as you said, the cost. It is def more expensive to go to methodist than it would cnu. A lot of kids come to methodist, and leave cuz it is too expensive. Next is family reasons. I think about a kid on our team 4 years ago, he transfered frmo a school in kentucky to come here cuz he was having family trouble. I think alot of this stuff has to do with transferring.

OH YEAH, ITS ABOUT FOOTBALL TIME BABY!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 04, 2007, 12:04:24 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on July 04, 2007, 07:56:27 AM
OH YEAH, ITS ABOUT FOOTBALL TIME BABY!!!!!!!

I even had a dream last night that I was talking to an athletic department staff member at CNU and I was  inquiring about my season tickets!

I need professional help!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on July 04, 2007, 12:59:44 PM
AllSky7,
I agree that the Scots are in need to start the season strong in their non- conference games. It would certainly pay dividends during the conf. portion of the season. Centre is always well coached and can certainly be a great match-up for the Scots. It would be awesome to return to Honaker Field for the home opener against Huntingdon with the Scots having a 2-0 record. Also, you really should try and get to Maryville to see the Scots play at Honaker, the community and students are really beginning to explode with support for the team.

Pride,
The nickname Fighting Scots came from the fact that there were quite a few Scottish settlers in the Southern Appalachians. Most from the Highlands. And, as you know they were a proud people who would defend their beliefs with great passion(See Braveheart). So remember, when you hear the Bag pipes realize that The Fighting Scots are on the way to battle.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on July 04, 2007, 01:02:54 PM
Also,
To everyone I want to wish you a very Happy Fourth of July. Remember  to thank all of those who have proudly served our country so that we might be able to live in independence. They have all paid a great sacrifice to maintain this freedom.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 04, 2007, 08:36:38 PM
Was this near the campus? I can think of worse ways to go but none seem to come to mind....... as it were........

BRIDGEWATER, Va. —  Deadly methane gas emanating from a dairy farm's manure pit killed five people, including four members of a Mennonite family, authorities said.

from the Drudge report
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 04, 2007, 08:46:15 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on July 04, 2007, 08:36:38 PM
Was this near the campus? I can think of worse ways to go but none seem to come to mind....... as it were........

BRIDGEWATER, Va. —  Deadly methane gas emanating from a dairy farm's manure pit killed five people, including four members of a Mennonite family, authorities said.

from the Drudge report

Methane gas is odorless. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 05, 2007, 08:10:20 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 03, 2007, 04:33:52 PM
I worked for someone from England...never get English, Scotish, and Irish confused......they'll get "bloody ticked, mate" - edited for children.

You especially don't want to get the "southern" Irish mixed with the "northern" Irish.  I have family from over there, the northern part of Ireland. (They will actually be coming over in less than a week.)  That is where half my family is from and believe me they will correct anybody if you don't say northern Irish and my irish relatives, dead or alive, would have a fit if I didn't where orange on St. Patricks's day.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 05, 2007, 08:54:04 AM
refering to the d3football poll question and this article,

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6987472?MSNHPHMA

Does the NFL need a league to develop players? What is everyone's thoughts on this?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 05, 2007, 10:28:08 AM
Did it really take a week for someone to finally write this angle? I hope someone covered the topic before this. :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on July 05, 2007, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: Highlander on July 04, 2007, 12:59:44 PM
AllSky7,
I agree that the Scots are in need to start the season strong in their non- conference games. It would certainly pay dividends during the conf. portion of the season. Centre is always well coached and can certainly be a great match-up for the Scots. It would be awesome to return to Honaker Field for the home opener against Huntingdon with the Scots having a 2-0 record. Also, you really should try and get to Maryville to see the Scots play at Honaker, the community and students are really beginning to explode with support for the team.

Pride,
The nickname Fighting Scots came from the fact that there were quite a few Scottish settlers in the Southern Appalachians. Most from the Highlands. And, as you know they were a proud people who would defend their beliefs with great passion(See Braveheart). So remember, when you hear the Bag pipes realize that The Fighting Scots are on the way to battle.

     Highlander....I have only missed two homecomings since 1983. Last year was the second. I plan to be there this year.  8)
     The one thing that I do remember about Centre is that regardless of talent level, they were always  disciplined and well coached. GO SCOTS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on July 06, 2007, 12:16:59 AM
Slowly catching up to the months of posts I've missed...don't post too often but decided to throw my two cents in.  All the talk about tuition rates is a little ridiculous.  CNU has a nice campus, great facilities, a winning tradition, and a great location.  All of these factors also weigh-in.  As a former player I narrowed my choices to CNU, Ferrum, and Hampden-Sydney(all guys...need I say more) out of high school and in the end it was a no brainer.  I probably would have made the same choice if a majority of the schools in our conference would have offered me a free ride. 

As for the ODU factor on CNU, I too believe there will be minimal affect on CNU.  There is plenty of talent throughout VA and the coaches excel at recruiting and will continue to get quality players from throughout the state.  ODU may steal a few players away every once in awhile, but CNU isn't the only school in DIII who does recruiting in Hampton Roads.

Congrats too on a great career Parsons and good luck with McDaniel.

Great Poems too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on July 06, 2007, 05:19:22 AM
Quote from: CaptainChris on July 06, 2007, 12:16:59 AM
Slowly catching up to the months of posts I've missed...don't post too often but decided to throw my two cents in.  All the talk about tuition rates is a little ridiculous.  CNU has a nice campus, great facilities, a winning tradition, and a great location.  All of these factors also weigh-in.  As a former player I narrowed my choices to CNU, Ferrum, and Hampden-Sydney(all guys...need I say more) out of high school and in the end it was a no brainer.  I probably would have made the same choice if a majority of the schools in our conference would have offered me a free ride. 

As for the ODU factor on CNU, I too believe there will be minimal affect on CNU.  There is plenty of talent throughout VA and the coaches excel at recruiting and will continue to get quality players from throughout the state.  ODU may steal a few players away every once in awhile, but CNU isn't the only school in DIII who does recruiting in Hampton Roads.

Congrats too on a great career Parsons and good luck with McDaniel.

Great Poems too.

     Capt...Sounds like CNU was the right choice for you but  I wouldn't be so fast to rule out H-S  based on it being all male. Trust me on this one.  :D
     With all due respect, not sure all the talk about tuition is ridiculous. There are many factors, but money is probably the number one factor that determines where MOST kids choose to go to school. If it is not #1, it is certainly in the top few factors. BTW...I have been on the campus of CNU and it  does have all the things you mentioned. Matter of fact, the company I work for played a small part in the nice facilities you mentioned.  ;D In todays world of almost 30k tuition, CNU is a bargain.
     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 06, 2007, 08:05:47 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on July 06, 2007, 05:19:22 AM
Quote from: CaptainChris on July 06, 2007, 12:16:59 AM
Slowly catching up to the months of posts I've missed...don't post too often but decided to throw my two cents in.  All the talk about tuition rates is a little ridiculous.  CNU has a nice campus, great facilities, a winning tradition, and a great location.  All of these factors also weigh-in.  As a former player I narrowed my choices to CNU, Ferrum, and Hampden-Sydney(all guys...need I say more) out of high school and in the end it was a no brainer.  I probably would have made the same choice if a majority of the schools in our conference would have offered me a free ride. 

As for the ODU factor on CNU, I too believe there will be minimal affect on CNU.  There is plenty of talent throughout VA and the coaches excel at recruiting and will continue to get quality players from throughout the state.  ODU may steal a few players away every once in awhile, but CNU isn't the only school in DIII who does recruiting in Hampton Roads.

Congrats too on a great career Parsons and good luck with McDaniel.

Great Poems too.

     Capt...Sounds like CNU was the right choice for you but  I wouldn't be so fast to rule out H-S  based on it being all male. Trust me on this one.  :D
     With all due respect, not sure all the talk about tuition is ridiculous. There are many factors, but money is probably the number one factor that determines where MOST kids choose to go to school. If it is not #1, it is certainly in the top few factors. BTW...I have been on the campus of CNU and it  does have all the things you mentioned. Matter of fact, the company I work for played a small part in the nice facilities you mentioned.  ;D In todays world of almost 30k tuition, CNU is a bargain.
     

Tuition does factor in to a persons choice for college.  Even in my case.  I grew up in MD and I didn't spend too much time out of state prior to Greensboro College.  I also wanted to be different from everybody I knew and didn't want to go to the same college as everyone else,  Salisbury, Frostburg St, Millersville, and York College. There was HCC (Harford Community College, which we called USC (University at Shucks Corner)  The name of the road was Shucks corner.  With those choices eliminated I was left with private colleges.  The private colleges in MD are about 10K more than in NC.  So going away from home was a no brainer and NC was just far enough away.  So why Greensboro, you ask.  Well, that is a different story for a different day.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on July 06, 2007, 10:31:53 AM
Pride and allsky-

I completely agree with you on the fact that tuition is a factor in decision-making, but was just trying to say that CNU has a lot more than low tuition rates working for them.  Another factor that I should have mentioned is the crowd that CNU brings to a game. It's a great feeling playing in front of a packed-house.

H-S was just a joke, I know it's a great school academically and their football team is always competing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on July 06, 2007, 10:41:48 AM
Quote from: CaptainChris on July 06, 2007, 10:31:53 AM
Pride and allsky-

I completely agree with you on the fact that tuition is a factor in decision-making, but was just trying to say that CNU has a lot more than low tuition rates working for them.  Another factor that I should have mentioned is the crowd that CNU brings to a game. It's a great feeling playing in front of a packed-house.

H-S was just a joke, I know it's a great school academically and their football team is always competing.

     I know it's a tall order for the Scots, but hopefully they will be able to whip the Captains in front of a "packed house" to return the favor from HC last year. BTW...when is CNU's HC? It isn't listed on the web site. I'm thinking it has to be against the Scots or NCW.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 06, 2007, 12:38:52 PM
56 and 1/2 days and counting........
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 06, 2007, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on July 06, 2007, 12:38:52 PM
56 and 1/2 days and counting........

Lucky for you.  GC doesn't play the first week of the season.  I have to wait  :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 06, 2007, 01:13:43 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 06, 2007, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on July 06, 2007, 12:38:52 PM
56 and 1/2 days and counting........

Lucky for you.  GC doesn't play the first week of the season.  I have to wait   quote]

That sucks........having your open date at the beginning of the season. Averett's open date is the following week and to me that is too early in the season, however we may need the extra week to recover from the Mount and get ready for Guilford.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 06, 2007, 01:14:42 PM
Guess I played around with the buttons too much......what an idiot.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 09, 2007, 08:51:43 AM
Just to make this board active. Take a look at this SU97,  I think there is some hope for SU if they can put up at least 13pts in one quarter.  Of the 26 wins they have had since 2001 season 24 of them have been in games when they score at least 13pts in one quarter. (24-3 overall)  Alot of teams that score 13 pts in a quarter might win some games, but it is a little different for SU because of the offense.  The offense isn't really built to make comebacks that is true with any other team that runs the ball nearly all the time. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on July 09, 2007, 02:14:00 PM
All that's just another reason the Hornets and Barnes should get rid of the Ace-Wing, high school style of play. Its boring to watch and boring to play. You run the ball for 8-10 straight plays and maybe, just maybe they will attempt a pass play. The Ace-Wing is a great style to play if you are up say 10 points for you can chew off about 8:00 or more off the clock on a good drive. But your in trouble if you get behind by that many. With the many high performance teams in the USASOUTH, Averett, CNU, NCWC to name a few along with Bridgewater that the Hornets always have in the schedule its hard to make any comeback just constantly running it. Yes that style can win in today's football (2003-04), but like I wrote its just so hard for a team to make a comeback using it when they are down by 10 or more points. Every drive just takes so long to develop. Here's hoping for more W's in 2007. GO HORNETS!!

p.s. Happy 8th Birthday d3hoops and football.com
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on July 09, 2007, 04:31:19 PM
Ive been out of town so I havent been able to respond to the question about the conference predictions.  I think the UASAC is one of the toughest conferences to predict.  In the four years I played I saw some of the best teams become the worst and the worst become one of the best.  Next year though I think NC Wesleyan is the team to beat.  Alot of these kids have been starting for 3-4 years now and you cant beat expirience.  CNU will be a team to beat like they are every year.  Ferrum I can never tell the last time they had a "down" year they came back the next year with a 1 loss season.  Im not sure what the other teams are bringing back from last year so Im not sure how they will be.  As for Averett, we did graduate 22 seniors last year with all of us seeing the field somehow.  I do know that the coaches at Averett will have that team ready to play like they have done every year.  Also every year we bring in around 100 freshman and there will be talented kids in there.  I know the team is motivated this year to try and defend what we had last year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 09, 2007, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on July 09, 2007, 02:14:00 PM

p.s. Happy 8th Birthday d3hoops and football.com

Thanks, though D3hoops.com will be 10 in November. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 10, 2007, 12:42:10 PM
For D3Newbie,

Was reading some of the post over on "Who did you play for" and was impressed to see that you played for Mickey Andrews. I have watched him coach and honestly have never seen a more intense live wire on the sidelines, especially when one of his def. guys screws up. He will eat them up one side and down the other right in front of 100,000 people and TV and never miss a beat. Then bench the guy for the rest of the game.

You must have numerous great stories to tell about him.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on July 10, 2007, 02:55:33 PM
Just want to let some USAC fans know that my buddy Jeff Hughley is tearing it up for the Tulsa Talons in the Arena 2 League.  He is the teams leading reciever in yards and TDs, has a passing TD, 3 rushing, 1 int. TD, and 3 return TD with over 1000 return yards!!!   www.tulsatalons.com
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 10, 2007, 03:35:44 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on July 09, 2007, 02:14:00 PM
All that's just another reason the Hornets and Barnes should get rid of the Ace-Wing, high school style of play. Its boring to watch and boring to play.

Growing up and playing in the wishbone in high school was no fun. I have never liked it.  The coach has ran the same offense 26 years. (Teams didn't have to scout us) We even had "wedge" play.  This year it was little different. (They went 6-4, first winning season in 5 years)  It was more of a pro style.

However I do enjoy the West Virginia Offense.  It is a "no-huddle spread power running and option offense."  I guess spread offense works.  What do you you call it?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 10, 2007, 03:55:55 PM
Quote from: Parsons on July 10, 2007, 02:55:33 PM
Just want to let some USAC fans know that my buddy Jeff Hughley is tearing it up for the Tulsa Talons in the Arena 2 League.  He is the teams leading reciever in yards and TDs, has a passing TD, 3 rushing, 1 int. TD, and 3 return TD with over 1000 return yards!!!   www.tulsatalons.com
That's great!  Congratulations to Jeff.  I saw how fast he was last year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 10, 2007, 10:49:49 PM
Quote from: SU97 on July 10, 2007, 10:44:51 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on July 10, 2007, 09:57:42 PM
Anyway ...is the idea of SU leaving the USAC old news or really not that interesting?

hmmm...  let's see, it's been about 4 years since the ODAC rumour has surfaced, so this would seem about time for it to appear again.  Seems like this happens every 4 or 5 years up here.

Quote from: K-Mack on July 10, 2007, 09:57:42 PM
Shenandoah is probably a fit institution-wise, and for all sports, ODAC travel would seem to be better for them with just the one significant out-of-state trip to Guilford (although E&H might be a longer hike).

Considering current USASAC travel, I would imagine a once-a-year trip to Carolina would hardly be a concern...

Quote from: K-Mack on July 10, 2007, 09:57:42 PM
I'm sure it's preferable to trips to Methodist, N.C. Wesleyan, Tidewater (CNU and NNA) and Averett

Bingo - although NNA isn't in our conference, but Maryville (TN) is for football...

Quote from: K-Mack on July 10, 2007, 09:57:42 PM
I certainly don't know Shenandoah's reasoning, but I wouldn't be shocked if travel costs and more natural regional rivalries were a factor in their desire to join. Maybe the ODAC seems more stable as well.

From what I hear it's travel costs.  We've been hearing this for 15 years, it was a rumor even before SU added football.  The regional rivalries would be the attractive part of this from a fans perspective.  I know a lot of famlies in town who have ODAC ties - either kids at ODAC Schools or grads themselves.  I know that SU had 7000+ at the BC game a couple of years ago.

Overall I think it would be a good move for SU, however, there are some great match-ups that would disappear with a move - and that would be disappointing. 

I would hope I could still muster the strength to continue to hate CNU...



I've been away on vacation and just replied to this on the ODAC board.  It would be hard for me to see the Hornets leave the dixie.  Just too many great games over the years (mostly before football).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 10, 2007, 11:14:10 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 09, 2007, 08:51:43 AM
Just to make this board active. Take a look at this SU97,  I think there is some hope for SU if they can put up at least 13pts in one quarter.  Of the 26 wins they have had since 2001 season 24 of them have been in games when they score at least 13pts in one quarter. (24-3 overall)  Alot of teams that score 13 pts in a quarter might win some games, but it is a little different for SU because of the offense.  The offense isn't really built to make comebacks that is true with any other team that runs the ball nearly all the time. 

Wow, the one time I don't check the board for a week - PSBBG, sorry for the delay in answering...   

I'm not much of a football guru, my interest comes over from the D3Hoops board - in fact I'm more of a fan of tailgating outside the stadium than the game itself....  but i'd have to say Uncle Jessie has a grasp of the situation in Hornet-land. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 11, 2007, 08:55:18 AM
SU97-

I don't want to see SU leave the conference, I make that trip to SU when we play up there for football.  I have family near there and we always make to that game.

On the topic of travel:

I just posted something on the basketball board and saw the SU schedules and saw that the conference tournament is still at CNU. On the women's side there is now an extra round to play.  Even more travel for some teams, that may or may not end up at CNU for the semifinals and finals.  I wish they would rotate it.  You know that tournament bracket will be set up?  My guess is 7 plays 10 seed and 8 plays 9 seed.  1 plays the winner of 8/9 game and 2 plays winner of 7/10 game.  Or is it going to be set-up where 1 and 2 have a first round bye and al the other teams play each other. 

Its nothing to worry about now, because football season is in 58 days (GC) 

7 days is the tentative day of USASouth Preseason Poll( I am use past history to determine that.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 11, 2007, 10:49:45 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 11, 2007, 08:55:18 AM
SU97-

I don't want to see SU leave the conference, I make that trip to SU when we play up there for football.  I have family near there and we always make to that game.


I'm torn too, I have made the trip to all but Maryville and enjoy the history of our league, especially in the sports outside of football.  But I see what folks are saying:  this year's football schedule has SU hitting the road for 2100+ miles in conference play alone.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 11, 2007, 12:06:48 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on July 09, 2007, 02:14:00 PM
All that's just another reason the Hornets and Barnes should get rid of the Ace-Wing, high school style of play. Its boring to watch and boring to play. You run the ball for 8-10 straight plays and maybe, just maybe they will attempt a pass play. The Ace-Wing is a great style to play if you are up say 10 points for you can chew off about 8:00 or more off the clock on a good drive. But your in trouble if you get behind by that many. With the many high performance teams in the USASOUTH, Averett, CNU, NCWC to name a few along with Bridgewater that the Hornets always have in the schedule its hard to make any comeback just constantly running it. Yes that style can win in today's football (2003-04), but like I wrote its just so hard for a team to make a comeback using it when they are down by 10 or more points. Every drive just takes so long to develop. Here's hoping for more W's in 2007. GO HORNETS!!

p.s. Happy 8th Birthday d3hoops and football.com

This is interesting:  This past year was the first year that the team that has earned the AQ has passed the ball more than ran it.



In 2001, CNU ran it 75.5 percent of the time.

2002: 74.2 (CNU)

2003: 51.2 (CNU)

2004: 65.1 (SU)

2005: 78.9 (FC)

2006: 46.2 (CNU)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 11, 2007, 03:33:34 PM
Quote from: SU97 on July 11, 2007, 12:06:48 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on July 09, 2007, 02:14:00 PM
All that's just another reason the Hornets and Barnes should get rid of the Ace-Wing, high school style of play. Its boring to watch and boring to play. You run the ball for 8-10 straight plays and maybe, just maybe they will attempt a pass play. The Ace-Wing is a great style to play if you are up say 10 points for you can chew off about 8:00 or more off the clock on a good drive. But your in trouble if you get behind by that many. With the many high performance teams in the USASOUTH, Averett, CNU, NCWC to name a few along with Bridgewater that the Hornets always have in the schedule its hard to make any comeback just constantly running it. Yes that style can win in today's football (2003-04), but like I wrote its just so hard for a team to make a comeback using it when they are down by 10 or more points. Every drive just takes so long to develop. Here's hoping for more W's in 2007. GO HORNETS!!

p.s. Happy 8th Birthday d3hoops and football.com

This is interesting:  This past year was the first year that the team that has earned the AQ has passed the ball more than ran it.



In 2001, CNU ran it 75.5 percent of the time.

2002: 74.2 (CNU)

2003: 51.2 (CNU)

2004: 65.1 (SU)

2005: 78.9 (FC)

2006: 46.2 (CNU)


That is an interesting stat.  You may not agree, but I think teams are usually good teams if they can follow 3 things.

1) Time of Possession
2) Limited/NO Turnovers
3) A defense that doesn't allow points. (A team could give up 500 yards but as long as they don't score.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 11, 2007, 05:10:56 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 11, 2007, 03:33:34 PM
Quote from: SU97 on July 11, 2007, 12:06:48 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on July 09, 2007, 02:14:00 PM
All that's just another reason the Hornets and Barnes should get rid of the Ace-Wing, high school style of play. Its boring to watch and boring to play. You run the ball for 8-10 straight plays and maybe, just maybe they will attempt a pass play. The Ace-Wing is a great style to play if you are up say 10 points for you can chew off about 8:00 or more off the clock on a good drive. But your in trouble if you get behind by that many. With the many high performance teams in the USASOUTH, Averett, CNU, NCWC to name a few along with Bridgewater that the Hornets always have in the schedule its hard to make any comeback just constantly running it. Yes that style can win in today's football (2003-04), but like I wrote its just so hard for a team to make a comeback using it when they are down by 10 or more points. Every drive just takes so long to develop. Here's hoping for more W's in 2007. GO HORNETS!!

p.s. Happy 8th Birthday d3hoops and football.com

This is interesting:  This past year was the first year that the team that has earned the AQ has passed the ball more than ran it.



In 2001, CNU ran it 75.5 percent of the time.

2002: 74.2 (CNU)

2003: 51.2 (CNU)

2004: 65.1 (SU)

2005: 78.9 (FC)

2006: 46.2 (CNU)


That is an interesting stat.  You may not agree, but I think teams are usually good teams if they can follow 3 things.

1) Time of Possession
2) Limited/NO Turnovers
3) A defense that doesn't allow points. (A team could give up 500 yards but as long as they don't score.)

These are ingredients for another PSBBG "Instant Classic" formula!!! Get to work!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 11, 2007, 05:12:16 PM
hmmmm.....just got an invitation to head to Belton TX for the CNU/UMHB game......time to buy flowers for my wife!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 11, 2007, 06:01:18 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 11, 2007, 05:12:16 PM
hmmmm.....just got an invitation to head to Belton TX for the CNU/UMHB game......time to buy flowers for my wife!
Here is another idea...
Get with your best CNU friend and his wife.  Plan a trip to Texas.  The ladies can do some power shopping in Austin, and you and your friend can drive the 70 miles up to see the game.

The ladies will have had the chance to shop at Neiman-Marcus and other fine stores, and you guys get in a great ballgame.

Neiman-Marcus Austin   
3400 Palm Way
Austin, TX 78758
512-719-1200

There is also a Neiman-Marcus outlet, Neiman-Marcus Last Call, in Austin.

www.neimanmarcus.com 

;)

You can commit the "flower money" to airline tickets...

Check out the Southwest Airlines web site for great deals tonight.  They have great supersaver/internet rates.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 11, 2007, 06:24:27 PM
I'm know I'm probably jumping the gun a tad, but I've just posted the rules for this season's USA South pick-ems contest.

You have to be logged in to view them, but you can follow this link to them in the Pick-Ems Forum:

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4785.405

Hit me with any feedback. Thanks!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 11, 2007, 10:46:55 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 11, 2007, 06:01:18 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 11, 2007, 05:12:16 PM
hmmmm.....just got an invitation to head to Belton TX for the CNU/UMHB game......time to buy flowers for my wife!
Here is another idea...
Get with your best CNU friend and his wife.  Plan a trip to Texas.  The ladies can do some power shopping in Austin, and you and your friend can drive the 70 miles up to see the game.

The ladies will have had the chance to shop at Neiman-Marcus and other fine stores, and you guys get in a great ballgame.

Neiman-Marcus Austin   
3400 Palm Way
Austin, TX 78758
512-719-1200

There is also a Neiman-Marcus outlet, Neiman-Marcus Last Call, in Austin.

www.neimanmarcus.com 

;)

You can commit the "flower money" to airline tickets...

Check out the Southwest Airlines web site for great deals tonight.  They have great supersaver/internet rates.

And now I know why they call you a hall of famer.  If I could add a +1 karma I would.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 12, 2007, 09:53:31 AM
Ok well I found something interesting that can predict the following years win %.  So I took it against should have been in 2006.  Here is what it looks like: (regular season schedule no playoffs.)

0.705   FC
0.684   MU
0.640   CNU
0.626   AU
0.390   MC
0.370   SU
0.220   GC

NCWC does not appear because I need at least 3 years to compare. It only works if the coach has been there for at least 3 years as well.

The coaches poll last year had:

FC
CNU
AU
MU
NCWC
MC
SU
GC

Last year standings.

CNU   0.800
AU   0.700
MC   0.500
MU   0.400
GC   0.300
FC   0.222
SU   0.200


Now here is where I think the COY should come in, I have always been a big supporter of the coach who improves the team or does better than "expected."  So I take the expected and actual and find the difference and whichever shows the most improvement gets the COY.

CNU   0.160
MC   0.110
GC   0.080
AU   0.074
SU   -0.170
MU   -0.284
FC   -0.483


COY goes to CNU and well he did get it.

My next post well predict what the standings will be this year.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 12, 2007, 10:05:03 AM
Ok here is the 2007 Expected Standings

0.700   CNU
0.650   AU
0.530   MU
0.530   NCWC
0.510   MC
0.431   FC
0.290   GC
0.290   SU

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 12, 2007, 11:15:11 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 11, 2007, 06:01:18 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 11, 2007, 05:12:16 PM
hmmmm.....just got an invitation to head to Belton TX for the CNU/UMHB game......time to buy flowers for my wife!
Here is another idea...
Get with your best CNU friend and his wife.  Plan a trip to Texas.  The ladies can do some power shopping in Austin, and you and your friend can drive the 70 miles up to see the game.

The ladies will have had the chance to shop at Neiman-Marcus and other fine stores, and you guys get in a great ballgame.

Neiman-Marcus Austin   
3400 Palm Way
Austin, TX 78758
512-719-1200

There is also a Neiman-Marcus outlet, Neiman-Marcus Last Call, in Austin.

www.neimanmarcus.com 

;)

You can commit the "flower money" to airline tickets...

Check out the Southwest Airlines web site for great deals tonight.  They have great supersaver/internet rates.

A closet travel agent.

Thanks Ralph.....I may look into something. I doubt I can get my wife to agree for me to pony up the money to ride on the team charter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 12, 2007, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on July 11, 2007, 06:24:27 PM
I'm know I'm probably jumping the gun a tad, but I've just posted the rules for this season's USA South pick-ems contest.

You have to be logged in to view them, but you can follow this link to them in the Pick-Ems Forum:

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4785.405

Hit me with any feedback. Thanks!



Hey - do another one and have fun with it....set something up where we have to pick all the games now!!!
We can each use a different PSBBG formula and see how we end up.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 12, 2007, 11:26:46 AM
Rob Rodriguez had a big day for Team USA.
http://www.d3football.com
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 12, 2007, 11:37:12 AM
http://www.ifaf.info/download/WC2007_Stats_Germany_USA.pdf (http://www.ifaf.info/download/WC2007_Stats_Germany_USA.pdf)

Thanks Pat - stats for the game in this link....but they are in a .pdf and the stats are "wrapped"...makes it very difficult to read.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 12, 2007, 11:47:34 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 12, 2007, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on July 11, 2007, 06:24:27 PM
I'm know I'm probably jumping the gun a tad, but I've just posted the rules for this season's USA South pick-ems contest.

You have to be logged in to view them, but you can follow this link to them in the Pick-Ems Forum:

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4785.405

Hit me with any feedback. Thanks!



Hey - do another one and have fun with it....set something up where we have to pick all the games now!!!
We can each use a different PSBBG formula and see how we end up.  ;D


I want to get one thing straight.  This last formula isn't mine. I found it on the internet  ;D

However, I did the search because you got me thinking about another power ranking formula.  It will use those three things I mentioned yesterday. 

Everyone-
if there is any problems with this one, we can blame myself and CNU85. CNU85 for getting my mind rolling and PSBBG because it probably will be flawed in some way.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 12, 2007, 12:09:23 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 12, 2007, 11:47:34 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 12, 2007, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on July 11, 2007, 06:24:27 PM
I'm know I'm probably jumping the gun a tad, but I've just posted the rules for this season's USA South pick-ems contest.

You have to be logged in to view them, but you can follow this link to them in the Pick-Ems Forum:

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4785.405

Hit me with any feedback. Thanks!



Hey - do another one and have fun with it....set something up where we have to pick all the games now!!!
We can each use a different PSBBG formula and see how we end up.  ;D


I want to get one thing straight.  This last formula isn't mine. I found it on the internet  ;D

However, I did the search because you got me thinking about another power ranking formula.  It will use those three things I mentioned yesterday. 

Everyone-
if there is any problems with this one, we can blame myself and CNU85. CNU85 for getting my mind rolling and PSBBG because it probably will be flawed in some way.  ;D

Karma for PSBBG - for having a sense of humor....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 12, 2007, 10:43:30 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 12, 2007, 12:09:23 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 12, 2007, 11:47:34 AM
Everyone-
if there is any problems with this one, we can blame myself and CNU85. CNU85 for getting my mind rolling and PSBBG because it probably will be flawed in some way.  ;D

Karma for PSBBG - for having a sense of humor....
someone should give him  a -1 for referring to himself in the third person, though...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2007, 12:21:42 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 11, 2007, 08:55:18 AM
7 days is the tentative day of USASouth Preseason Poll( I am use past history to determine that.)

http://www.d3football.com/pressreleases.php?release=1669
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 13, 2007, 12:25:03 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2007, 12:21:42 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 11, 2007, 08:55:18 AM
7 days is the tentative day of USASouth Preseason Poll( I am use past history to determine that.)

http://www.d3football.com/pressreleases.php?release=1669

The conference is starting its press releases off with a bang:

(FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.) - The annual USA South Football Media Day will be hosted by Methodist University and take place on Thursday, July 31 at 10:30 a.m. Each of the Conference's eight football coaches will address the media and give their thoughts on the upcoming football season.


My dilligent research shows July 31 to be a Tuesday....   :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 13, 2007, 08:18:30 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on July 13, 2007, 12:25:03 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2007, 12:21:42 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 11, 2007, 08:55:18 AM
7 days is the tentative day of USASouth Preseason Poll( I am use past history to determine that.)

http://www.d3football.com/pressreleases.php?release=1669

The conference is starting its press releases off with a bang:

(FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.) - The annual USA South Football Media Day will be hosted by Methodist University and take place on Thursday, July 31 at 10:30 a.m. Each of the Conference's eight football coaches will address the media and give their thoughts on the upcoming football season.


My dilligent research shows July 31 to be a Tuesday....   :-\

Why so late?  Even July 31st is 6 days later then the latest it has ever been.

Here is a stupid trivia question the last time the preseason poll was released within the last seven days of the month, SU was at the top of the conference at the end of the year.( SU and CNU both were at the top.)  I am putting my money on SU this year to win the conference  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 13, 2007, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on July 13, 2007, 12:25:03 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2007, 12:21:42 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 11, 2007, 08:55:18 AM
7 days is the tentative day of USASouth Preseason Poll( I am use past history to determine that.)

http://www.d3football.com/pressreleases.php?release=1669

The conference is starting its press releases off with a bang:

(FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.) - The annual USA South Football Media Day will be hosted by Methodist University and take place on Thursday, July 31 at 10:30 a.m. Each of the Conference's eight football coaches will address the media and give their thoughts on the upcoming football season.


My dilligent research shows July 31 to be a Tuesday....   :-\

They are using the Metric System!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 13, 2007, 11:59:24 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 13, 2007, 11:37:58 AM
Quote from: WCLegacy on July 13, 2007, 12:25:03 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2007, 12:21:42 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 11, 2007, 08:55:18 AM
7 days is the tentative day of USASouth Preseason Poll( I am use past history to determine that.)

http://www.d3football.com/pressreleases.php?release=1669

The conference is starting its press releases off with a bang:

(FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.) - The annual USA South Football Media Day will be hosted by Methodist University and take place on Thursday, July 31 at 10:30 a.m. Each of the Conference's eight football coaches will address the media and give their thoughts on the upcoming football season.


My dilligent research shows July 31 to be a Tuesday....   :-\

They are using the Metric System!

Very Funny, '85

The Metric system is always a good answer. 

Or I was the the one that sent out the press release.  It was released a day after I mentioned the preseason poll would be released.  ;D

It is supposed to be at 10:30 am (I didn't think an "am" was part of the metric system.  I know mm m km are, but not am)   ;D (Sorry I couldn't help myself)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 13, 2007, 01:32:43 PM
then/than...whatever

+1 karma for the first to correctly identify the beer commercial reference above :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 13, 2007, 01:52:31 PM
Quote from: narch on July 13, 2007, 01:32:43 PM
then/than...whatever

+1 karma for the first to correctly identify the beer commercial reference above :)

how many of us are feverishly trying to remember and are serching the internet? I can't even find it on realbeer.com
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 13, 2007, 02:05:57 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on July 13, 2007, 12:25:03 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2007, 12:21:42 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 11, 2007, 08:55:18 AM
7 days is the tentative day of USASouth Preseason Poll( I am use past history to determine that.)

http://www.d3football.com/pressreleases.php?release=1669

The conference is starting its press releases off with a bang:

(FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.) - The annual USA South Football Media Day will be hosted by Methodist University and take place on Thursday, July 31 at 10:30 a.m. Each of the Conference's eight football coaches will address the media and give their thoughts on the upcoming football season.


My dilligent research shows July 31 to be a Tuesday....   :-\

It's all that private school education!!! DOH - I didn't just start that debate again, did I?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 13, 2007, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: narch on July 13, 2007, 01:32:43 PM
then/than...whatever

The funny thing is I changed it from "a" to "e" at the last minute.


I took nova's advice about getting that grammar book, I didn't get the one he mentioned but I did get a book about grammar. I hope that within the next ten years what I have learned about grammar might work its way onto here.  ;D

I will mention most of my problem areas have been with the colloquial words , parallels, and pronoun-antecedent agreements.

With the invention of instant messenger systems using colloquial words, have caused the young generation, including myself to use word as if we were speaking, which generally are words not accepted in formal language.


I think that might have been a the "smartest" written post I have ever posted.

Now lets get back to football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 13, 2007, 02:20:21 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 13, 2007, 02:14:14 PM

I think that might have been a the "smartest" written post I have ever posted.


an den some
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 13, 2007, 02:33:20 PM
I haven't even tried to look for that commerical.  At work, If I type the word beer it won't get me very far because it will probably be blocked.  Sites mentioning alcohol, among others, are blocked.  For crying out even ESPN is blocked. However I found away around that, I search for something from 1999 (or earlier) and I use that as my back door.


I wanted to add, how much should we look into Rodriguez's performance in the game against Germany?  NFL teams are always looking for Special Team players so....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 13, 2007, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 13, 2007, 02:33:20 PM


I wanted to add, how much should we look into Rodriguez's performance in the game against Germany?  NFL teams are always looking for Special Team players so....

The guy can play that's for sure....but NFL........

5'8" 150lbs.......you do the math
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 13, 2007, 03:04:22 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 13, 2007, 02:48:50 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 13, 2007, 02:33:20 PM


I wanted to add, how much should we look into Rodriguez's performance in the game against Germany?  NFL teams are always looking for Special Team players so....

The guy can play that's for sure....but NFL........

5'8" 150lbs.......you do the math

Jermaine Lewis was 5'8 as a return guy, but he also weighed 40 more pounds.  What is the size of the typical CFL player/special teams player.

CFL should not be called the CFL, it should be called CML  (Canadian "meter"ball League)  They are on the metric system up there  ;D.  I am on a roll here.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 13, 2007, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 13, 2007, 02:14:14 PM
With the invention of instant messenger systems using colloquial words, have caused the young generation, including myself to use word as if we were speaking, which generally are words not accepted in formal language.


I think that might have been a the "smartest" written post I have ever posted.
i hope that is not "a" your best work...that first sentence/paragraph isn't even close to a complete sentence...

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 13, 2007, 03:04:22 PM
I am on a roll here.
if you do say so yourself...although, if memory serves me correct, canadian football uses 10 yards as the measure for a first down, not 10 meters - while the country may be on the metric system, i don't think their football is

hint on the beer commercial...replace then/than with 2 names...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 13, 2007, 10:10:39 PM
bud weiser
Mill er
mick lobe
rolling rock
coors light


need more hints
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 13, 2007, 10:11:49 PM
this is not exactly a football post, but i think the new track coach at mu might be able to help some of the monarch football players get faster...

mu hires track & field coach (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/track/rosshired.htm)...he's got some impressive credentials...he was nike athlete...let's see if he can turn the mu track program into a contender and compete with the captains...not gonna be easy
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 13, 2007, 10:12:04 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 13, 2007, 10:10:39 PM
bud weiser
Mill er
mick lobe
rolling rock
coors light


need more hints

FEMALE names...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 13, 2007, 10:12:59 PM
narch...head over to the hoops board while i figure the beer thing
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 13, 2007, 10:19:36 PM
got it....


Busch Light

:D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 14, 2007, 02:51:49 PM
Narch-

You completely missed the point of the "meter"ball joke. I referenced Canada and the fact that they play "foot"ball, even though they use the metric system. The metric system was mentioned in an earlier post therefore I continued the discussion.

I don't agree with you, I think my sentence is complete.  (When 'nova says it is incomplete/complete then I will agree with you.)

Also,

"The playing field is larger, being 110 yards (100 m) long and 65 yards (59.4 m) wide. The end zones are 20 yards (18.3 m) deep."

Football, Canadian. Encyclopedia Britannica online. May 2003.

More information: http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/FarrahAbuzahria.shtml
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 14, 2007, 04:33:57 PM
Pride said, "With the invention of instant messenger (perhaps you meant "message"?)  systems(,) using colloquial words, have caused the young generation, including myself(,) to use word(s) as if we were speaking, which generally are words not accepted in formal language.  I think that might have been a (why the "a"?)   the "smartest" written post I have ever posted."

I would have said something more like, "With the invention of instant message systems, the young generation, including myself, may use colloquialisms in a manner more closely related to how they speak, rather than words generally accepted in formal language."

Pride, your "sentence" has a good premise, but I have to agree with Narch.  At best, it is a run-on sentence without proper punctuation and at least one instance of incorrect word usage.  At worst, it is an incomplete sentence that lacks a required degree of clarity.

Also, if the Canadian field is measured in 100 meters, why is the center of the field marked as the 55 yard line?  It's in yards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_football
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 14, 2007, 07:13:26 PM
pride - if you think your sentence is even CLOSE to correct, you don't deserve to get a college degree...and i'm being dead serious...'nova is being nice

and canadian football is played ENTIRELY in yards...so your joke makes no sense, either - canada may be on the metric system, but their football game is not, so calling the league the canadian metric league isn't logical or funny

lastly...everyone failed the obscure beer commercial reference (although, truth be told, '85 was probably the only one playing)

"then/than...whatever" was a thin reference to the old bud light commercial that used the punchline "Jane/Joan...whatever"...maybe it was TOO obscure (or maybe i pay too much attention to beer commercials) :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 14, 2007, 07:22:11 PM
Narch, I thought it would have to do with Corona  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 14, 2007, 08:57:50 PM
Quote from: admiralpapi on July 14, 2007, 07:22:11 PM
Narch, I thought it would have to do with Corona  ;)
well...i had just a few while posting last night...maybe it did, in a round about way :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 14, 2007, 09:53:32 PM
+1 to 'nova for at least showing me where the sentence went wrong, and not trying to belittle me. Narch, I know you are being honest but the way you phrased the sentence appears to be very negative.

Narch, here is a collection of books I think you should read:

"The Leader in You" and "How to Win Friends & Influence People" both by Dale Carnegie

Also maybe you need to go back to school, because clearly there is no class on the subject of leadership offered at Methodist.  If you don't want to go back to school buy this book, "The Leadership Experience" by Richard L. Daft.  I also suggest studying the "Leadership Grid" (That theory is one of my favorite leadership theories)

Whatever your job may be, I don't think there are many people that actually "enjoy" working for/with you. (Treat others as you want to be treated) I think you are a manager not a leader. With that said, I would never work for you. (I would work for 'nova even though he has criticized me as much as you have.) I am starting a career change within the next year or so, because there are too many people out there who shouldn't be in positions of power.  I like where I am now.  My managers are good managers[leaders], but many are not and therefore need to be shown how to be good managers.

Also I never said that a CFL field was in meters. You tried to out think the joke and failed. They use meters in Canada and that is the joke.

(Now don't be a smart@$$.  Don't try to correct the grammar on this post.  I am working on 4 good hours of sleep and I was up early this morning taking a 4 hour certification test.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 14, 2007, 10:35:45 PM
+1 'nova!

You beat me to it!  And, I didn't get to use an obscure reference to a rouge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouge_%28football%29) either.   :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 14, 2007, 11:06:19 PM
PSBBG...I know the things Narch says can sting a bit, but that's only because he calls it as he sees it, he is a straight shooter and has been since I met him.  Don't get upset and speak of things that you have absolutely no idea about.  I personally know Narch and people who work FOR him and they certainly seem to enjoy working for him (maybe they are just good actors ::) ).

Yes, MU does offer leadership classes.  Leadership was my minor while at MU (MC) and has done me quite well in my career thus far.

As far as all these books on 'effective' leadership goes, you can keep all your books telling you to "stand around the camp fire and hold hands and play nice with everyone" but maybe that's just military in me talking....or it could be the Rum  ;D

Going on 4 good hours of sleep...give me a break...I've been days without getting 4 good hours of sleep and still been able to think and communicate effectively.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 15, 2007, 01:13:57 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on July 14, 2007, 11:06:19 PM
PSBBG...I know the things Narch says can sting a bit, but that's only because he calls it as he sees it, he is a straight shooter and has been since I met him.  Don't get upset and speak of things that you have absolutely no idea about.  I personally know Narch and people who work FOR him and they certainly seem to enjoy working for him (maybe they are just good actors ::) ).

Yes, MU does offer leadership classes.  Leadership was my minor while at MU (MC) and has done me quite well in my career thus far.

As far as all these books on 'effective' leadership goes, you can keep all your books telling you to "stand around the camp fire and hold hands and play nice with everyone" but maybe that's just military in me talking....or it could be the Rum  ;D

Going on 4 good hours of sleep...give me a break...I've been days without getting 4 good hours of sleep and still been able to think a communicate effectively.
Well said and true.  I've met both Narch and PSBBG.  Narch is a straight shooter, but I like that.  PSBBG has youthful enthusiasm going for him and there's certainly always a place for that as well.  Leadership can come in many forms and, as far as I know, there's no set formula.  I can tell you one thing, however, if I was starting a business or a military unit or an athletic team today, Narch would have a leadership position now.  When PSBBG earns one, I'm sure he'll have one as well.  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 15, 2007, 01:35:32 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 14, 2007, 10:35:45 PM
+1 'nova!

You beat me to it!  And, I didn't get to use an obscure reference to a rouge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rouge_%28football%29) either.   :-\
Thanks, Ralph.  I learned something new about negative scoring, although I did know rouge is French for red.  From an accounting point of view, it makes perfect sense.  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 15, 2007, 04:16:26 AM
PSBBG
It won't be a simple cane-ing next time either. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 15, 2007, 08:42:47 AM
Quote from: admiralpapi on July 14, 2007, 11:06:19 PM
As far as all these books on 'effective' leadership goes, you can keep all your books telling you to "stand around the camp fire and hold hands and play nice with everyone" but maybe that's just military in me talking....or it could be the Rum  ;D

The Dale Carnegie books are considered, by many, to be the premier books on the subject of leadership. They are not books about "stand around the camp fire and hold hands am play nice" (proper use, the statement is parallel, but I do think there is an extra and in there.  ;D)

Good for you, you can handle 4 hours of sleep much better than I can.  I am not you, so don't talk to me as if I were you. All MU alum seem to be the same, you think you are better than everybody else.  No wonder the transfer rate is so high at MU.

There is a difference between being straight foward and being honest. One can be straight foward and not be negative, those that know me know that I very straight forward but I am not negative.

I won't question college education or anything personal about anybody, unless those things are questioned about me. No one should question choices (college, dinner etc.) unless it has a negative impact on another person.

And 'nova I signed off without given you the karma.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 15, 2007, 09:29:15 AM
PSBBG, thanks.  Just remember, sometimes less is more, but keep posting.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 15, 2007, 12:52:10 PM
Quote from: hasanova on July 15, 2007, 09:29:15 AM
PSBBG, thanks.  Just remember, sometimes less is more, but keep posting.  :)

nova-

"I am just stickin' it to The Man"  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 15, 2007, 01:10:01 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 15, 2007, 08:42:47 AM

The Dale Carnegie books are considered, by many, to be the premier books on the subject of leadership. They are not books about "stand around the camp fire and hold hands am play nice" (proper use, the statement is parallel, but I do think there is an extra and in there.  ;D)



I do not believe you can read a book and become an effective leader,  I believe people are born a leader or they are born a follower (my opinion, you are welcome to yours).  Good leaders have "it"...I don't know what "it" is but all great leaders seem to have "it" and those who do not possess "it" will never possess "it."  Peyton Manning has "it" and Michael Vick does not.  It is not something you can find in a book, it is only found in you. 

I do not think I'm better than you and I doubt Narch does.  You perceive criticism as arrogance I guess, and therefore believe that we think we are better than you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 15, 2007, 03:40:16 PM
PSBBG
I guess you know Papi is a senior Petty Officer (USCG) in command of his own boat and trains special boat tactics.

I would have to support his contention on leadership since he has done it under the most appalling conditions imaginable. What he says IRT leadership is straight dead on.

You can teach "leadership techniques" but not leadership. The second you are born you are or you are not.

But hey we still dig you :) I have taken worse beatings here. Most deserved.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 15, 2007, 05:47:08 PM
psbbg - you may find this hard to believe, but i actually think you're probably a pretty good guy...'nova is a solid judge of character, and he seems to like you, so that's enough for me...if i didn't like you, i would simply allow you to continue to twist in the wind...my hope all along has been that with help from my needling, you'd figure some things out...hasn't happened yet, but i figure it will sink in at some point

and i will argue a point...nothing i've ever said to you has been personal...i've simply made comments on what i've observed on these boards...i stand behind every statement i've ever made regarding your butchering of the english language (and, subsequently, what your writing says about your education) - unlike you, i've never questioned any personal attributes about you that couldn't be directly interpreted by reading your posts

...and you're right...you will probably never work for me...for many reasons, but primarily because you probably would never want to do what i do :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 15, 2007, 07:26:49 PM
Quote from: narch on July 15, 2007, 05:47:08 PM
and i will argue a point...nothing i've ever said to you has been personal...i've simply made comments on what i've observed on these boards...i stand behind every statement i've ever made regarding your butchering of the english language (and, subsequently, what your writing says about your education) - unlike you, i've never questioned any personal attributes about you that couldn't be directly interpreted by reading your posts

Narch that is what you should have said in the first place. The last one did sound a little arrogant.

I handle criticism very well, I grew up having parents that are very critical.  My father has four brothers and a sister because of that everyone of them had to work hard to get what they wanted. My father instilled that into me. I bought my first car. (It was used and it lasted 3 years, but I still bought it and I was 16 at the time.)

Papi-
I agree that leaders have to be born but those that aren't can learn what it takes to be one.  Maybe then those people can apply it elsewhere, even though they are not true leaders. 

I am not going to name names, but grammar can be taught to people, and those people may never how to use what they were taught.  :) I believe this to be true, Albert Einstein was terrible writer, but he of course was better in other subjects.

There is a class that I think shouldn't be taught the class is ethics.  Everyone has a different view on what is ethical and what is not ethical and I don't think the class should be taught.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 15, 2007, 07:31:52 PM
Respectfully, grammar is the courtesy that the writer extends to the reader.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 15, 2007, 08:00:08 PM
PSBBG...I meant to add this earlier but got a little worked up and forgot it.  Maybe the reason MU has a high transfer rate (I'm not sure it's higher than the average D3 school because I haven't done the research) is due to its location.  Many of MU's students are military or military brats/wives.  Take me for instance, I was a drilling reservist all during my time at MU.  When the US started gearing up for the war in January 2003 I was called to active duty (in my final semester no doubt).  Now since I transferred to a different university to finish my degree I assume I would be listed as a transfer.  Not because I did not enjoy my time at MU but because of circumstances beyond my control.

You can bet that ABNRGR has "IT" although he can't speak of 'it' because 'it' did not happen in a country that does not exist  :o ...and you can bet that he has done under the absolute worst possible conditions. 
ABN...I'm still waiting for you to come down to Lejeune so I can get you out on the boats and show ya how to drive one like your hair was on fire and your butt was catching...or maybe vertical insertion is a little more your style  ;) !  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 15, 2007, 10:39:29 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 15, 2007, 07:31:52 PMRespectfully, grammar is the courtesy that the writer extends to the reader.  :)
Yes, it is. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 16, 2007, 12:27:16 AM
The whole hole gets deeper.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 16, 2007, 01:02:30 AM
Papi,
It's just a way to get there to do vile tawdry things to others. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 16, 2007, 01:14:40 PM
Come on Sept 1, this heat wave is making everyone crazy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 01:33:39 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on July 16, 2007, 01:14:40 PM
Come on Sept 1, this heat wave is making everyone crazy.

I'm now anlyzing this statement for grammatical correctness.  ;D

My wife is a nurse - hospitals fill up when it gets hot outside.....people lose their cool and people get shot, stabbed, and grammatically assaulted!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 16, 2007, 01:53:50 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 01:33:39 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on July 16, 2007, 01:14:40 PM
Come on Sept 1, this heat wave is making everyone crazy.

I'm now anlyzing this statement for grammatical correctness.  ;D

My wife is a nurse - hospitals fill up when it gets hot outside.....people lose their cool and people get shot, stabbed, and grammatically assaulted!!

Oh well.......like the bumper sticker say "S_ _ _ Happens"

Analyze all you want. This old country boy ain't (that's right) ain't changing a thing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 02:04:58 PM
ain't is a now an offically accepted word.

and it's ok to spell out the rest of the bumper sticker.....stuff happens!! :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 16, 2007, 02:07:03 PM
You're a trip..... I hope I get to meet you someday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 02:12:43 PM
Hey PSBBG - we need a new formula. Call it the Karma Factor......it should measure karma points considering number of posts. Also, adjustments need to be made for grammar errors, pointing out grammar errors, grammar tutorials,  and also "instant classics".

See what you can do!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 02:32:54 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on July 16, 2007, 02:07:03 PM
You're a trip..... I hope I get to meet you someday.

That would be cool. Probably not this year, unless I decide to take a road trip to Danville at the last minute. But who knows - I did it a few years ago. I found the campus the night before. Couldn't find the football field. I was amazed how many people kept pointing me back to the campus. Finally a waitress at a restaurant where I went to breakfast told me where it was. I just remember a nice sunny day...sitting on a hill with my 2 kids and getting nervous as CNU hung on to win 21-13 (I think that was the final score).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 16, 2007, 02:53:04 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 02:12:43 PM
Hey PSBBG - we need a new formula. Call it the Karma Factor......it should measure karma points considering number of posts. Also, adjustments need to be made for grammar errors, pointing out grammar errors, grammar tutorials,  and also "instant classics".

See what you can do!

I'd would try something, but I think there is too many variables to consider.  I would have to consider age (including actual date of birth), college of the poster, income, profession, the boards (whether or not the poster leaves the safety of his or her's "home" board) height, weight, polticial views, family history, medical history, smoker vs non-smoker, martial status, diet, household size, prior history of drug use, athletic experience, pizza preference, whether the poster is landlocked or not landlocked, favorite movie, favorite music, type of internet service, amount of bills left unpaid, types of pets at the househould, prefered sharpie, prefered toilet paper,  number of tattoos, poster's news service, preference of canadian bacon compared to "regular bacon", prefered childhood breakfast cereal, and favorite seinfeld epsiode, those are just a few of the variables.  The list could go on and on.  (If anybody needs to know a reason why one of these variables made the list I would be happy to explain.)  :) :) :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 03:03:19 PM
uh oh......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 16, 2007, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 02:32:54 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on July 16, 2007, 02:07:03 PM
You're a trip..... I hope I get to meet you someday.

That would be cool. Probably not this year, unless I decide to take a road trip to Danville at the last minute. But who knows - I did it a few years ago. I found the campus the night before. Couldn't find the football field. I was amazed how many people kept pointing me back to the campus. Finally a waitress at a restaurant where I went to breakfast told me where it was. I just remember a nice sunny day...sitting on a hill with my 2 kids and getting nervous as CNU hung on to win 21-13 (I think that was the final score).

I keep telling them that the City of Danville offers no support to the school at all. That is why no one knows where the football field is. It's like they just don't care. Sad ??? You would think that after 3 straight winning seasons, the folks in that small town would raise up and take notice that is there is something to do on Saturday afternoons other than walk around WalMart.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 16, 2007, 03:11:39 PM
I hope number of tattoo's will be a positive variable and not a negative or I'll be screwed from the start.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 03:41:53 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on July 16, 2007, 03:11:39 PM
I hope number of tattoo's will be a positive variable and not a negative or I'll be screwed from the start.

I'm wondering if nobody remembers my favorite cereal as a kid, is that a bad ting? Quisp was my favorite!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 03:45:01 PM
oh wow...just went to quisp.com (http://quisp.com) !! I'm happy again!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 16, 2007, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 03:45:01 PM
oh wow...just went to quisp.com (http://quisp.com) !! I'm happy again!

I didn't know what Quisp cereal was,  I saw the site, I guess you might have to order it from the stores or "if Quisp Cereal hasn't come to your area yet, download our letter--or make up your own--and get it to your friendly grocer to remind them to stock Quisp in their store."

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 16, 2007, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 16, 2007, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 03:45:01 PM
oh wow...just went to quisp.com (http://quisp.com) !! I'm happy again!

I didn't know what Quisp cereal was,  I saw the site, I guess you might have to order it from the stores or "if Quisp Cereal hasn't come to your area yet, download our letter--or make up your own--and get it to your friendly grocer to remind them to stock Quisp in their store."

I have a Quisp and Quake comic book I saved from a package of cereal when I was a kid.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 16, 2007, 11:05:36 PM
Well I see everyone is like DOC Holliday said "now we can be friends"

I hope Papi's tat is not a naked Ernest Borgnine. Yike
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 17, 2007, 02:02:40 AM
Thanks ABN...after reading that I am now cleaning the drink off of my laptop that I spit all over the place from laughing so hard.  ;D

No tat's of Ernest yet...but give me enough rum in a far away port and you never know what might happen  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 17, 2007, 10:20:05 AM
Quote from: hasanova on July 16, 2007, 04:58:43 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 16, 2007, 03:51:23 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 16, 2007, 03:45:01 PM
oh wow...just went to quisp.com (http://quisp.com) !! I'm happy again!

I didn't know what Quisp cereal was,  I saw the site, I guess you might have to order it from the stores or "if Quisp Cereal hasn't come to your area yet, download our letter--or make up your own--and get it to your friendly grocer to remind them to stock Quisp in their store."

I have a Quisp and Quake comic book I saved from a package of cereal when I was a kid.  :)

I am not the traditional kid I guess, because I enjoyed Wheaties.  If it is the "breakfast of champions," then I wanted to be one.  I also enjoyed Cap'n "Horatio Magellan" Crunch, if I couldn't get a bowl of Wheaties, I made sure I had a bowl of Cap'n Crunch instead. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 17, 2007, 10:32:26 AM
PSBBG....I have to agree with you on the Capt. Crunch.  Now I've got to run to the grocery store and get some cereal.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 17, 2007, 01:59:07 PM
cinnamon life...hey, he likes it!...mikey likes it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 17, 2007, 03:40:10 PM
grown men talking about cereal....

sad
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 17, 2007, 08:54:48 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 17, 2007, 03:40:10 PM
grown men talking about cereal....

sad
don't act like you're not a fruit loops kind of guy, '85 :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 17, 2007, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: narch on July 17, 2007, 08:54:48 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 17, 2007, 03:40:10 PM
grown men talking about cereal....

sad
don't act like you're not a fruit loops kind of guy, '85 :)
Wasn't "fruit loop" what they called the little loop of cloth across the back of the shirt?

;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 18, 2007, 01:01:06 AM
I think the only topic that grown men can have an intelligent conversation about is cereal.  It's sad...But it's true!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 18, 2007, 01:05:50 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 17, 2007, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: narch on July 17, 2007, 08:54:48 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 17, 2007, 03:40:10 PM
grown men talking about cereal....

sad
don't act like you're not a fruit loops kind of guy, '85 :)
Wasn't "fruit loop" what they called the little loop of cloth across the back of the shirt?

;)
I don't remember it being called that, but I do remember girls would sneak up behind you and pull them out when I was in HS.  I guess it was a status thing to see how many you could collect.  Sounds dumb, I know, but pretty tame compared to some of the things I hear about now.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 18, 2007, 08:15:24 AM
To bring us out of the cereal debate and back into a football debate, I have a question about colleges and college football, is it possible for colleges/universities to have a "character" requirement for addmission?

With all the problems of a few players in the NFL right now, there has to be a way to screen those players.  It not only looks bad for the professional team, but it looks bad for the college/university as well. Or maybe these problems start at the college level and are just brushed aside, not to specifically point out a unversity but a president had to step down in the mid-west because of a murder cover-up.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 18, 2007, 10:12:31 AM
When Dean Smith was at UNC he would not offer a scholarship to anyone who had been in any kind of serious trouble.  Allen Iverson really wanted to be a tarheel but Smith would not offer him a scholarship because he had been arrested while in hs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 18, 2007, 10:39:36 AM
Yea.....that's right Papi and Dean Smith was the only guy that could hold Michael Jorden to 20.............
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 18, 2007, 10:58:17 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on July 18, 2007, 10:39:36 AM
Yea.....that's right Papi and Dean Smith was the only guy that could hold Michael Jorden to 20.............

haha  :).  That is a good one. It is true though Coach Smith didn't want any of his players to score more than 20 pts for that matter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 18, 2007, 01:51:31 PM
unc also revoked jameson curry's scholarship offer...he ended up a ok state, i believe, and had a pretty nice/incident free college career

schools can conduct background checks on their students...some do now, and i suspect many more will in the near future as a way to attempt to prevent another VT situation (although, from what i understand, a background check wouldn't have prevented that situation as that dude had no criminal background) - i would think there would be a little "cya" (figure it out) involved, too...if something happened to one of my kids on a college campus and i later found out that the perp. had a criminal background, but was still admitted...well...let's just say i'd be able to endow a pretty nice scholarship at mu :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 19, 2007, 10:39:42 AM
USASouth 2007 Football media guide is on the USASouth wrbsite.

The link: http://www.usasouth.net/PDFs/footballguide.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 19, 2007, 05:32:14 PM
PAPI
I am at NAS Brunswick 24-27 Jul. Let kow know if you are smoking cherry Ensigns up there.

GC-Q may just smoke some Pride this year :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 19, 2007, 10:10:41 PM
ok...gone for a few days...time to catch up.

the loop on the shirt was called a fruit loop...and i remember getting in trouble b/c i would go home with torn shirts from girls pulling on my loop.  ;D


Coach Dean Smith didn't offer Iverson a scholarship 'cuz Iverson never  graduated from hs. He spent his senior year of hs in the Newport News City Farm correctional facility. He "graduated" while there with the help of the wife of former Eagles backup QB Lambiotte.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 20, 2007, 08:13:45 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 19, 2007, 10:10:41 PM
ok...gone for a few days...time to catch up.

the loop on the shirt was called a fruit loop...and i remember getting in trouble b/c i would go home with torn shirts from girls pulling on my loop.  ;D

So you were quite the ladies man back in the day.  ;)

We didn't have any "fruit looping" going on.  We would take clothes pins and see how many we could get on someone (shirt) before they realized anything had happened.  No offense to the big DT types but they were always the easiest.  I always had help (by another DT actually), I was never the instigator.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 20, 2007, 04:59:25 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 19, 2007, 10:10:41 PM
the loop on the shirt was called a fruit loop...and i remember getting in trouble b/c i would go home with torn shirts from girls pulling on my loop.  ;D

Hahahaha!!! That's great. We called them a little something different when I was a kid, but I think I like your term better.

My mom got soooooo pissed at me over my town shirts, too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 20, 2007, 09:44:28 PM
haha....i remember my mom being so ticked at my torn shirt...big hole in the back....she took away my Quisp cereal for a week!!!

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 21, 2007, 10:05:10 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on July 19, 2007, 05:32:14 PM
PAPI
I am at NAS Brunswick 24-27 Jul. Let kow know if you are smoking cherry Ensigns up there.

GC-Q may just smoke some Pride this year :)

There's probably a foot of snow in Maine right now...   ;D

There used to be a great little German pub in Brunswick, but that was six or seven years ago.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 21, 2007, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 18, 2007, 08:15:24 AM
To bring us out of the cereal debate and back into a football debate, I have a question about colleges and college football, is it possible for colleges/universities to have a "character" requirement for addmission?

With all the problems of a few players in the NFL right now, there has to be a way to screen those players.  It not only looks bad for the professional team, but it looks bad for the college/university as well. Or maybe these problems start at the college level and are just brushed aside, not to specifically point out a unversity but a president had to step down in the mid-west because of a murder cover-up.


PSBBG: 

How would you propose schools screen kids?  Aren't juvenille (minors) records sealed?

And here's something to ponder: a few years ago Florida State football coaches were allowed to recruit student/athletes  ;) from the FLORIDA PENAL SYSTEM.   The problem is far from just an NFL issue...  But I guess schools are trying to change:  Two seasons ago there were 700 youth attending a Miami (Fla.) game for the "Join a Team, not a Gang" program. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that was the MiamiU-FIU brawl in 2006.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 21, 2007, 01:55:14 PM
Quote from: SU97 on July 21, 2007, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 18, 2007, 08:15:24 AM
To bring us out of the cereal debate and back into a football debate, I have a question about colleges and college football, is it possible for colleges/universities to have a "character" requirement for addmission?

With all the problems of a few players in the NFL right now, there has to be a way to screen those players.  It not only looks bad for the professional team, but it looks bad for the college/university as well. Or maybe these problems start at the college level and are just brushed aside, not to specifically point out a unversity but a president had to step down in the mid-west because of a murder cover-up.


PSBBG: 

How would you propose schools screen kids?  Aren't juvenille (minors) records sealed?

And here's something to ponder: a few years ago Florida State football coaches were allowed to recruit student/athletes  ;) from the FLORIDA PENAL SYSTEM.   The problem is far from just an NFL issue...  But I guess schools are trying to change:  Two seasons ago there were 700 youth attending a Miami (Fla.) game for the "Join a Team, not a Gang" program. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that was the MiamiU-FIU brawl in 2006.


Well even if they are juveniles, I think in the matter of whether or not a kid has done some "time" should be available to a college.  I don't think it is fair to the safety of the students, if that information isn't released.  Now I am not saying the student shouldn't be accepted, but the information should be available.  References are often included in the interview process, if not it should be.  Every school has entrance exams for class placement, I am sure there is one that was developed by some doctor that measures the character of a student.  I think something along those lines.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 21, 2007, 04:32:37 PM
In my opinion character is the action you take when no one is looking, therefore I do not believe there is any kind of exam that can measure character.  The only way to judge a person's character is to judge their previous actions.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 21, 2007, 04:57:05 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on July 21, 2007, 04:32:37 PM
In my opinion character is the action you take when no one is looking, therefore I do not believe there is any kind of exam that can measure character.  The only way to judge a person's character is to judge their previous actions.

I agree 100% with the Admiral.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 21, 2007, 05:08:01 PM
Looks like SU released the 2007 Football Preview: http://www.su.edu/athletics/default.cfm (http://www.su.edu/athletics/default.cfm).

Not sure what to make of our chances this year, but there is nowhere to go but up.  Along that line of thought, here's to hoping SU can turn things around in all sports this year!


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 21, 2007, 05:41:06 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on July 21, 2007, 04:32:37 PM
In my opinion character is the action you take when no one is looking, therefore I do not believe there is any kind of exam that can measure character.  The only way to judge a person's character is to judge their previous actions.
I agree with you 100%.  The example my Dad taught me (and I have passed on to my sons) involves finding a wallet with money and identification.  If you are walking with a group of responsible friends, you will, of course, try to find the owner - perhaps partially because others are watching.  The true test, however, is when you find it and no one knows you found it except you.  A person with character will make a good faith effort to find the owner.  To me, a young child is malleable, but once a person reaches age 13 or 14, I believe their values are somewhat set.  That is not to say a later experience such as the military, a coach or other strong mentor can't modify behavior somewhat, but I still think basic values are entrenched once you reach puberty.  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 21, 2007, 11:54:04 PM
I think those that have answered my post understand that it really is hard for a college to figure out the "character" of an enrolling sttudent.  The character issue can be figured out ONLY based on past teacher and record of the student.  However I still think the character should be used as an entrance requirement, a way to determine a "good" student is still up in the air.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 22, 2007, 03:22:55 PM
PSSBG
Well for players I know we used to get the "character" question when a college first inquired about a potential player. They loved to hear "no problems with this kid", so PSSBG is correct with "past teacher" being used as a yard stick.

Papi is spot on.........again....... IRT to character.

You've heard the saying "I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do"

Sounds like character huh?

Anyway............ "Air Guilford"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 22, 2007, 07:35:08 PM
Ours is "I will neither lie, steal, cheat, nor attempt to deceive."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 22, 2007, 09:03:27 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on July 22, 2007, 03:22:55 PM
PSSBG
Well for players I know we used to get the "character" question when a college first inquired about a potential player. They loved to hear "no problems with this kid", so PSSBG is correct with "past teacher" being used as a yard stick.

Papi is spot on.........again....... IRT to character.

You've heard the saying "I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do"

Sounds like character huh?

Anyway............ "Air Guilford"
Hey abnrgr, good to see you on board.  I saw Coach Kiesel with his family at the Greensboro Grasshoppers minor league baseball game today.  He said he had a LOT of good recruits this year, but he didn't elaborate.  He said it was, indeed, going to be "Air Guilford" again this fall.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 23, 2007, 01:28:21 AM
Hasanova-Thank you. That was a first ;)

"thank you Clarice....thank you"........

I just hope he got a mobile RT on the O-line to protect Voggie's blind side. He is a southpaw right?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 23, 2007, 01:29:23 AM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on July 22, 2007, 07:35:08 PM
Ours is "I will neither lie, steal, cheat, nor attempt to deceive."

Just blow them down to the keel with 5.25s ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 23, 2007, 05:34:11 AM
Destructive fire is hereby authorized!!!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 23, 2007, 08:45:40 AM
I hope Guilford does run the "air" game again this year. Hopefully, Greensboro will again pick off Guilford 5 times this year.  Greensboro returns a most of a defense that tied a school record for INT's in a season and INT's in game (Guilford).  They just can't let them score 36 pts.

I was thinking about this the other day (my fantasy draft is this week,lets just say I am the Marty Schottenheimer of fantasy football. If you know anything about him, you'd know what I am talking about.)  Any way my question is what do ya'll think makes a great football team (not fantasy)? I am talking about what must a team have to be successful.  Is there a philosphy you think generates success? Anything?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 23, 2007, 05:18:54 PM
Didn't that guy get the ax? 

   You build teams up the middle.  Dt, Ilb, S.   Offensive Line and Running Game. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 23, 2007, 08:15:15 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 23, 2007, 05:18:54 PM
Didn't that guy get the ax? 

Yeah his playoff record is horrendous.  As is mine for all fantasy sports.  I do well during the regular season, but in the playoffs I am usually one and done.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 24, 2007, 03:09:05 PM
just ordered my d3football.com kickoff (http://www.d3football.com/kickoff/)...can't wait until august 20...you boys and girls need to get yours, too!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2007, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: narch on July 24, 2007, 03:09:05 PM
just ordered my d3football.com kickoff (http://www.d3football.com/kickoff/)...can't wait until august 20...you boys and girls need to get yours, too!

I plan on doing it.  Pat will i get a discount if I say my my favorite school is Catholic?  :)

It is really good value compared to other places and other divisions.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 24, 2007, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2007, 03:42:36 PM
I plan on doing it.  Pat will i get a discount if I say my my favorite school is Catholic?  :)

I'm not nearly as focused on my alma mater as you are on yours, no.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2007, 04:10:42 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 24, 2007, 03:44:42 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2007, 03:42:36 PM
I plan on doing it.  Pat will i get a discount if I say my my favorite school is Catholic?  :)

I'm not nearly as focused on my alma mater as you are on yours, no.

I am not as focused on Greensboro as I once was.  I know you don't have time, but you would have to go back to this basketball season to see where I was "focused"
on Greensboro. Most of my summer was spent on a different Pride team.  :)

Quote from: moshergc9 on July 23, 2007, 05:18:54 PM
You build teams up the middle.  Dt, Ilb, S.   Offensive Line and Running Game. 

Al Davis would say CB's.  John Madden would say OL.  I say OL.  RB's are important but a team should block for a RB (QB also) to thier strengths. I think a defense should be built on speed over size. A QB needs to be smart with the ball. As for the WR position, I want them to be big and tall.  I am talking 6'2 190lb (or bigger) guys (hard to find at the d3 level)  They don't have to be fast, but fast enough to be considered a wideout. They need to be able to catch the ball.  Since those WR are rare just make sure they are the tallest ones out there regardless. That is my imput on building a team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2007, 04:56:45 PM
Pride preseason information

http://www.gborocollege.edu/weblog.php?action=showpage&page=article&aid=2077&offset=0

20 of 28 returning starters.  Not too shabby.  Don't have time to discuss the rest right now.  Ya'll dive into it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 24, 2007, 08:18:59 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2007, 04:56:45 PM
Pride preseason information

http://www.gborocollege.edu/weblog.php?action=showpage&page=article&aid=2077&offset=0

20 of 28 returning starters.  Not too shabby.  Don't have time to discuss the rest right now.  Ya'll dive into it.

Thanks for posting, two things stood out for me:

1.  You have a large number of upperclassmen returners/starters, which to me is the key to winning in the USA South.  I look back to the championship teams of 2003 and 2004 for the Hornets and one of the key pieces of the puzzle for those teams was that is was a talented group of upperclassmen who went through together starting from the first two years of the program.  It culminated for the Hornets with a heck of a two year run and an NCAA playoff berth in 2004.  That is also one of the things that is, in my mind, playing well for NCWC this coming year. 

2.  White jerseys?  NEVER compare GC with the cowboys...  NEVER.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2007, 09:26:42 PM
Quote from: SU97 on July 24, 2007, 08:18:59 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2007, 04:56:45 PM
Pride preseason information

http://www.gborocollege.edu/weblog.php?action=showpage&page=article&aid=2077&offset=0

20 of 28 returning starters.  Not too shabby.  Don't have time to discuss the rest right now.  Ya'll dive into it.

Thanks for posting, two things stood out for me:

1.  You have a large number of upperclassmen returners/starters, which to me is the key to winning in the USA South.  I look back to the championship teams of 2003 and 2004 for the Hornets and one of the key pieces of the puzzle for those teams was that is was a talented group of upperclassmen who went through together starting from the first two years of the program.  It culminated for the Hornets with a heck of a two year run and an NCAA playoff berth in 2004.  That is also one of the things that is, in my mind, playing well for NCWC this coming year. 

2.  White jerseys?  NEVER compare GC with the cowboys...  NEVER.

I do agree with alot of what you said with number 1.  However there will be several posters that might have an opinion or two about the caliber of what Greensboro has coming back.

I have heard some great things about Caparaso at QB. Don't know much but I know he had a good high school career.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 24, 2007, 10:22:36 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2007, 09:26:42 PM

I do agree with alot of what you said with number 1.  However there will be several posters that might have an opinion or two about the caliber of what Greensboro has coming back.

well... CNU85's quote from this past hoops year may apply: 

Quote from: CNU85 on March 10, 2007, 08:50:04 PM

I like your other comments - very insightful. One thing though about SU. You mentioned they are 2-22 the past 2 years in conference play....maybe only losing 1 senior is not a good thing!! ;D

Just trying to save people some time in replying... ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 25, 2007, 08:16:44 AM
I didn't discuss your point about the Cowboys and Greensboro College.  Nobody can compare college to nfl, that arguement will never hold well on these boards.  I will argue we just haven't found our Troy Aikman or Emmitt Smith yet.  :)


Enjoy the next couple days, I will be on vacation in Louisville. (I am actually going to a convention up there.) Anybody been up there?  Any good places to eat and drink? As a sports fan I am going to head to Louisville Bat Museum. If I get a chance I might head over to the race track as well. Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 25, 2007, 09:10:14 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 25, 2007, 08:16:44 AM
I didn't discuss your point about the Cowboys and Greensboro College.  Nobody can compare college to nfl, that arguement will never hold well on these boards.  I will argue we just haven't found our Troy Aikman or Emmitt Smith yet.  :)

We Cowboy fans haven't either.  >:(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on July 25, 2007, 10:53:29 AM
Has the USAC put out its preseason poll yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2007, 11:46:33 AM
Quote from: SU97 on July 24, 2007, 10:22:36 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2007, 09:26:42 PM

I do agree with alot of what you said with number 1.  However there will be several posters that might have an opinion or two about the caliber of what Greensboro has coming back.

well... CNU85's quote from this past hoops year may apply: 

Quote from: CNU85 on March 10, 2007, 08:50:04 PM

I like your other comments - very insightful. One thing though about SU. You mentioned they are 2-22 the past 2 years in conference play....maybe only losing 1 senior is not a good thing!! ;D

Just trying to save people some time in replying... ;)

nicely said........having 20 of 28 players returning from a 3-7 team might not be good news.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 25, 2007, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 25, 2007, 11:46:33 AM
Quote from: SU97 on July 24, 2007, 10:22:36 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2007, 09:26:42 PM

I do agree with alot of what you said with number 1.  However there will be several posters that might have an opinion or two about the caliber of what Greensboro has coming back.

well... CNU85's quote from this past hoops year may apply: 


Quote from: CNU85 on March 10, 2007, 08:50:04 PM

I like your other comments - very insightful. One thing though about SU. You mentioned they are 2-22 the past 2 years in conference play....maybe only losing 1 senior is not a good thing!! ;D

Just trying to save people some time in replying... ;)

nicely said........having 20 of 28 players returning from a 3-7 team might not be good news.

I don't know if this will help my arguement or not, but there are quite a few posters that really feel that NCWC is poised for a title this year.  They too are returning quite a few players. It might be good news or it might be bad news. 

1) They play a tougher schedule
2) They play at CNU at AU and at MU (MU will be a better team and I think Narch will agree to that, a game NCWC won only 15-9. A game MU was winning until the 4th quarter. Where a fumble game NCWC a quick score)
3) In the USASouth you can't really base on year off the next. You can be near the top one year and near the bottom the next.


I just added previews for the other fall sports on thier respective boards.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2007, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 25, 2007, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 25, 2007, 11:46:33 AM
Quote from: SU97 on July 24, 2007, 10:22:36 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 24, 2007, 09:26:42 PM

I do agree with alot of what you said with number 1.  However there will be several posters that might have an opinion or two about the caliber of what Greensboro has coming back.

well... CNU85's quote from this past hoops year may apply: 


Quote from: CNU85 on March 10, 2007, 08:50:04 PM

I like your other comments - very insightful. One thing though about SU. You mentioned they are 2-22 the past 2 years in conference play....maybe only losing 1 senior is not a good thing!! ;D

Just trying to save people some time in replying... ;)

nicely said........having 20 of 28 players returning from a 3-7 team might not be good news.

I don't know if this will help my arguement or not, but there are quite a few posters that really feel that NCWC is poised for a title this year.  They too are returning quite a few players. It might be good news or it might be bad news. 

1) They play a tougher schedule
2) They play at CNU at AU and at MU (MU will be a better team and I think Narch will agree to that, a game NCWC won only 15-9. A game MU was winning until the 4th quarter. Where a fumble game NCWC a quick score)
3) In the USASouth you can't really base on year off the next. You can be near the top one year and near the bottom the next.


I just added previews for the other fall sports on thier respective boards.

ok...here's my view on things for NCW.

1. They do play a tougher schedule and I think that will help. It has helped CNU build a program.
2. Yes - their conference road schedule is tough. this will be a test for them. They went 5-2 in conference play...let's see how that record holds up when the Away/Home games change this year. I'm glad they are at CNU!!! ;D
3. not sure I agree witht he at the top 1 year and bottom the next. Although it is true for teams like SU, FC, and MU. CNU has always been at or near the top. GC has laways been at or near the bottom. MC and NCW have been middle of the pack, yet improving each year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 25, 2007, 04:09:56 PM
The preseason Top 25 is posted.
http://www.d3football.com/top25.php
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 25, 2007, 05:15:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 25, 2007, 04:09:56 PM
The preseason Top 25 is posted.
http://www.d3football.com/top25.php

WOW!  Bridgewater not ranked in the top 25 :o   

Congrats to CNU for showing well for the USASAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2007, 06:45:59 PM
I hate preseason polls. While it's nice to see CNU get the recognition.....I dunno....I would rather be a sleeping underdog......I guess CNU is still the underdog in it's first 2 games....we get a #10 and a #4 to play....yippeeee
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 25, 2007, 07:56:56 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 25, 2007, 06:45:59 PM
I hate preseason polls. While it's nice to see CNU get the recognition.....I dunno....I would rather be a sleeping underdog......I guess CNU is still the underdog in it's first 2 games....we get a #10 and a #4 to play....yippeeee

Does that mean you think they should not be ranked?  Do I think CNU wil be ranked at the end of the season?  More than likely. Preseason, however I am not exactly sold. I saw that they are lost alot of thier playmakers on offense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 25, 2007, 09:44:44 PM
The Bow Ties get a top 30 spot. (Washington and Lee 5)

HSC, BC or GC-Q will beat them.

That's a fact jack
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 26, 2007, 08:19:37 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 25, 2007, 04:08:07 PM3. not sure I agree witht he at the top 1 year and bottom the next. Although it is true for teams like SU, FC, and MU. CNU has always been at or near the top. GC has laways been at or near the bottom. MC and NCW have been middle of the pack, yet improving each year.
actually, the monarchs have been pretty consistent, as well...here are their conference finishes since '01: 3rd, 5th, 5th, 3rd, T1st, T5th

i expect mu will finish anywhere from 3rd to 5th again this year, although i do think they will be a better team than they were last year...i'm hoping that improvement will show in the standings, but you just never know - this is a team that lost 4 of their 7 games by a total of 17 points...21 more points over the course of the season would have made a 4-6 season an 8-2 season...there is a fine line, folks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on July 26, 2007, 08:41:16 AM
I hope everyone has had a wonderful summer. With all this pre-season talk it starts to get me excited about football. I believe that the conf. will be as strong as it has ever been, the difference between 1st and 2nd to 7th and 8th does not seem to be as large as it used to be. If history is an indicator of future performance I believe that you have to think that CNU is still the team to beat until anyone can consistently prove otherwise. With that being said there could be any number of teams that seem poised to make a run  for the championship. I also hope that the conf. members can have a great showing in their respective non- conf. games. That will only help gain the conf. some more national respect.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 26, 2007, 12:49:42 PM
Quote from: narch on July 26, 2007, 08:19:37 AM
actually, the monarchs have been pretty consistent, as well...here are their conference finishes since '01: 3rd, 5th, 5th, 3rd, T1st, T5th

that would be consistent if we were talking about all of d3...but for a conference with 6-8 teams (depending on the year), placing 5th 3 times, 3rd twice and first once...seems inconsistent to me.......I guess it's our interpretation of inconsistent.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 26, 2007, 01:34:36 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 26, 2007, 12:49:42 PM
that would be consistent if we were talking about all of d3...but for a conference with 6-8 teams (depending on the year), placing 5th 3 times, 3rd twice and first once...seems inconsistent to me.......I guess it's our interpretation of inconsistent.
no, i would agree that there is some inconsistency when compared to cnu, but i thought you were making a direct comparison between mu and su/fc, who have been all over the place in the standings...with the exception of one great year, the monarchs have been in either 5th or 3rd place every year - su has gone from T1 to last and a couple of spots in between - fc has tied for 1st three times but also finished 6th, 7th and 3rd - those teams, especially ferrum, have yo-yo'ed throughout the standings...the monarchs have been consistently average over that same time period with few peaks and valleys compared to su and fc :)

it's not about the interpretation, it's about who we're comparing them too
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 26, 2007, 02:00:06 PM
gotcha.....I was comparing the teams to themselves over the period of '01-'06.......I see your point in saying they are more consistent than other teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 26, 2007, 02:01:02 PM
I even got the then/than correct!!!  :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 26, 2007, 08:26:43 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 26, 2007, 02:01:02 PM
I even got the then/than correct!!!  :P
It must be that CNU education.   :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 26, 2007, 09:40:26 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on July 23, 2007, 01:28:21 AM
Hasanova-Thank you. That was a first ;)

"thank you Clarice....thank you"........

I just hope he got a mobile RT on the O-line to protect Voggie's blind side. He is a southpaw right?
Actually, Vogelbach throws right.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 26, 2007, 10:28:45 PM
Saw this on the conference website, media day is tuesday:  http://www.usasouth.net/ (http://www.usasouth.net/) 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 26, 2007, 10:33:38 PM
And there's a live video stream:

http://www.d3football.com/pressreleases.php?release=1686
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 27, 2007, 10:09:08 AM
Hi all!!  Can't wait for the conference pre-season rannkings to come out.  It is always interesting to see how the season is predicted to turn out and what actually happens.  It is always good locker room material, especailly for the teams picked to finish toward the bottom.  Sort of like Maryville last year which was picked to finish next to last and finished in 4th (and actually beat the NCW that finished in front of them in 3rd).  Any way you look at it though, it should be a great season this year.  Anyone got any sleeper team predictions for the league this year?  Personally, I gotta stick with my Fighting Scots.  They showed a lot of improvement on offense and all the young starters are a year older now and are looking to hopefully make a little noise in the league this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2007, 10:19:47 AM
Maryville has been disrespected two years in a row in the preseason poll. Hopefully the USAC coaches respect the new guys a little better this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on July 27, 2007, 11:13:04 AM
Hello to all, it has been a busy summer and a busy last few weeks. Thank you narch for that piece of information you sent me, i will try to be a bit better, lol. Sometimes i type faster and forget to go back at the end. I had the plaesure to get some insight on things at MU this year. Let me tell you guys something sleeping on the monarchs, be careful and do not underestimate them. I think the defense maybe a little bit better than they were in 05 when we won the conference. Offensively, whoever started all that bull crap about hill not returning, it is not true, he will be back with a chip on his shoulder and something to prove this year as a senior.
         O-Line will be better than they were last year, alot better. Anyone in this conference knows we have the best o-line coach in the conference, they will be right this year. They have a strong core group of guys coming back, and they are young. The QB this year is going to be the big surprise, Parks will lead the team in my opinion and he will step up to the challenge.

OK i am now out of time and it is time for me to go on vacation for the weekend b4 we start the kickoff monday. Anyways good luck to all this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on July 27, 2007, 12:16:39 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on July 27, 2007, 10:09:08 AM
Hi all!!  Can't wait for the conference pre-season rannkings to come out.  It is always interesting to see how the season is predicted to turn out and what actually happens.  It is always good locker room material, especailly for the teams picked to finish toward the bottom.  Sort of like Maryville last year which was picked to finish next to last and finished in 4th (and actually beat the NCW that finished in front of them in 3rd).  Any way you look at it though, it should be a great season this year.  Anyone got any sleeper team predictions for the league this year?  Personally, I gotta stick with my Fighting Scots.  They showed a lot of improvement on offense and all the young starters are a year older now and are looking to hopefully make a little noise in the league this year.

     As I posted earlier, I too think the Scots may surprise some people. The first two games are key. Especially week two at Centre. If the injury bug doesn't bite, a QB gets some snaps and steps up, Hightower stays healthy, and the D cuts down on giving up big plays....Watch Out!!
     
     DISCLAIMER: The above is absolutely, positively, without a doubt an unbiased assessment!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 27, 2007, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2007, 10:19:47 AM
Maryville has been disrespected two years in a row in the preseason poll. Hopefully the USAC coaches respect the new guys a little better this year.

I don't understand why the coaches wouldn' respect them. From what I have observed the last two years and things I have heard about the coming season; they are going to give everyone a problem. They have a good coach and good talent returning.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 27, 2007, 11:07:42 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2007, 10:19:47 AM
Maryville has been disrespected two years in a row in the preseason poll. Hopefully the USAC coaches respect the new guys a little better this year.
2006 USA South Coaches Poll
Rank Institution (1st place Votes)   Pts.
1. Ferrum (4)                             46
2. Christopher Newport (3)           44
T3. Averett (1)                           35
T3. Methodist                             35
5. N.C. Wesleyan                        22
T6. Maryville                              17
T6. Shenandoah                         17
8. Greensboro                              8

honestly, i don't get the notion of m'ville being disrespected last year...didn't get it then and don't get it now...the coaches picked them to finish 2 spots lower than they actually did...that can be a one-game difference in this league - m'ville got a 2 point win against ncwc, a 4 point win vs. mu (and i thought mu was every bit as good as m'ville watching that game in person...although i might be a tad biased) and a 6 point win vs. fc - any of those games could have gone the other way, and the coaches would have been spot on - while m'ville is a very solid team, and has the makings of a nice 2007, they could have easily finished a spot or 2 lower in the 2006 standings than they did

m'ville was coming off a 2-5 conference season in 2005 in which their only wins came against gc (1-9/1-6) and su (1-9/0-7) - they were blown out in 3 of their losses, including a 51 point loss to cnu - if i remember correctly they had lost a couple of all-conference type defenders, as well...pre season polls are a bit of a crap shoot to begin with, but nothing about picking m'ville in a tie for 6th seems "disrespectful" to me

there is one mitigating factor that isn't exactly fair re: m'ville - i think the coaches in this conference still don't know as much about m'ville as they should - they haven't been a regular opponent for very long and they don't play many common opponents outside of conference, so i think it's still a bit difficult for the coaches in the usasac to get an accurate read on them...they haven't seen them play in person many times, and they don't get to see them on film as much as they do the other teams

by the way...were there many people or prognosticators who picked m'ville ahead of mu and fc (the 2005 defending co-champions) in the pre-season?...if you did, kudos, but even in retrospect, i wouldn't have made that prediction
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2007, 11:37:54 PM
... picked, essentially, to beat Greensboro and tie Shenandoah. They won two and a half more games than that. They didn't lose any all-conference defenders -- Maryville actually returned 11 starters on defense and nine of 11 on offense that year.

Year before, picked last, nearly unanimously (10 points). They won two games and finished fifth.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 28, 2007, 09:08:57 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2007, 11:37:54 PM
... picked, essentially, to beat Greensboro and tie Shenandoah. They won two and a half more games than that.
how did they win a half game?  please educate me...i saw their conference record as 4-3, not 4.5 - 2.5...am i missing something?

Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2007, 11:37:54 PMThey didn't lose any all-conference defenders -- Maryville actually returned 11 starters on defense and nine of 11 on offense that year.
Quote from: narch on July 27, 2007, 11:07:42 PM if i remember correctly they had lost a couple of all-conference type defenders, as well...
...guess i didn't remember correctly :)

Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2007, 11:37:54 PMYear before, picked last, nearly unanimously (10 points).
...in their first year in a conference with voting from a group of coaches that had very little knowledge of their team or opponents, coming off a 5-4 season in which they didn't have any impressive wins and lost to a second year huntingdon program...can you see why this might happen?

Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2007, 11:37:54 PMThey won two games and finished fifth.
the last place team last year won one game...so the coaches were off by possibly one game in their pre-season poll - there is a pretty fine line between fifth and seventh in this league most years...

i think calling the pre-season polls of the last two years disrespectful is a bit extreme...were they inaccurate? yes...perhaps even a bit uneducated, but disrespectful??? let's lose the hyperbole...it's a pre-season coaches poll...they're rarely very accurate, and, let's face it - they've missed m'ville by 2 places in the polls twice...hardly the stuff of a major conspiracy against the scots
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on July 28, 2007, 11:00:33 AM
Here's my preseason picks:

1.  NCWC: poised for a breakout year. Tons of returning talent, the QB is the best in the league, strong RB and a monster D.  I would love to catch the CNU/NCWC game this year...

2.  CNU:  I'm sure they'll reload, but I'm thinking those 24 TD's they've lost are going to take a little time for someone to step up and step in.  I was thinking of listing both NCWC and CNU as T1, but that would be lame. 

3.  Maryville:  Losts of talent returning.

4.  Methodist:  Best of the rest. 

5.  Averett:  Lost too much from last year, but not going to pull a SU and rock a first to worst.

6.  Ferrum:  What's their QB situation?

7.  Shenandoah:  When does basketball season start?

8.  Greensboro:  SU has to beat somebody.


More SU:   the DOAH's football preview spent like 4 pages on the fact that we hired a new coach.  Not sure what that says, or does not say about the team returning.  I am hopeful that the QB Glick is back after injury, he could be a talented leader under center.  Secondary looks to be the strength of the D.  2-8 last year, hopefully we can win another game or two in the conference. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 28, 2007, 04:36:42 PM
Quote from: narch on July 28, 2007, 09:08:57 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 27, 2007, 11:37:54 PM
... picked, essentially, to beat Greensboro and tie Shenandoah. They won two and a half more games than that.
how did they win a half game?  please educate me...i saw their conference record as 4-3, not 4.5 - 2.5...am i missing something?

They were predicted to tie Shenandoah, yes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 28, 2007, 04:40:38 PM
Quote from: narch on July 28, 2007, 09:08:57 AM

i think calling the pre-season polls of the last two years disrespectful is a bit extreme...were they inaccurate? yes...perhaps even a bit uneducated, but disrespectful??? let's lose the hyperbole...it's a pre-season coaches poll...they're rarely very accurate, and, let's face it - they've missed m'ville by 2 places in the polls twice...hardly the stuff of a major conspiracy against the scots

I said Maryville was disrespected. I don't think that's quite the same thing as you said.

Were they inaccurate? Uneducated? Yes. But we knew so at the time, in 2005.

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2005/08/04/last-place-teams-who-will-surprise/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 28, 2007, 04:43:43 PM
Quote from: narch on July 28, 2007, 09:08:57 AM
so the coaches were off by possibly one game in their pre-season poll - there is a pretty fine line between fifth and seventh in this league most years...

Perhaps, though as a reminder they were picked eighth. There was not a fine line between eighth (10) and fifth (27) in their predictions, either.

Back to my vacation. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 29, 2007, 08:01:04 PM
i was flipping through channels yesteray and saw the last 2 minutes of regulation plus OT of the USA/Japan game. It was nice to see a CNU guy out there playing. That kid Kubiak from Mary Hardin Baylor was all over the place. I'm glad he graduated!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 31, 2007, 08:38:46 AM
I am back in town.  I stayed away from a computer all weekend.  Wish I hadn't I had 51 total e-mails between two e-mail addresses.  Louisville nice place,  I endorse the city if you are young, you enjoy baseball, or if you enjoy horse racing.

SU97-

I don't mind the 8th place rating.  I have to see the poll first, to decide where to go with it.  I do know though we have never finished in last place by ourselves.  I can't find my little post-it that had notes about the average conference finish for GC and I believe it was something between 4.9-5.5. Anybody have some football quotes for my signature?  I don't have anymore quotes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on July 31, 2007, 12:25:03 PM
Man I knew the Hornets were not going to be picked to high in the pre-season poll, but not this bad.  :'(

2007 USA South Coaches Poll
Rank Institution (1st place Votes) Pts.
1. N.C. Wesleyan (6) 48
2. Christopher Newport (2) 44
3. Methodist 33
4. Averett 31
5. Maryville 27
6. Ferrum 17
7. Greensboro 15
8. Shenandoah 9

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 31, 2007, 12:37:07 PM
2007 USA South Coaches Poll
Rank Institution (1st place Votes) Pts.
1. N.C. Wesleyan (6) 48
2. Christopher Newport (2) 44
3. Methodist 33
4. Averett 31
5. Maryville 27
6. Ferrum 17
7. Greensboro 15
8. Shenandoah 9

Here is the preseason poll for this year all.  The Media Day coverage was pretty good.  Methodist's head coach gave a great speach.  It was very entertaining.  Loved the fact how he said how can the league put him in front of 3 teams that beat him last year!!  I was a little suprised the CNU was ranked second even though they are ranked nationally and NCW isn't but from what I can tell NCW is going to be pretty good this year and has all the right parts coming back.  I must say I was (once again) disappointed seeing Maryville put in the bottom half of the league once again.  I definately think they are better than Averett which lost a TON this year and they are a little better than Methodist, especially since Maryville is returning 9 Offensive starters and majority of their defense coming back.  It does hurt them losing 2 4-year starters at the linebacking spot though.  I also think that Shenandoah will pick off Greensboro this year as well.  Either way it will be an interesting season this year with the strength of the conference.  On a side note, it was awesome to see a USA South player competing on the international level for the national team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on July 31, 2007, 01:26:39 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on July 31, 2007, 12:25:03 PM
Man I knew the Hornets were not going to be picked to high in the pre-season poll, but not this bad.  :'(

2007 USA South Coaches Poll
Rank Institution (1st place Votes) Pts.
1. N.C. Wesleyan (6) 48
2. Christopher Newport (2) 44
3. Methodist 33
4. Averett 31
5. Maryville 27
6. Ferrum 17
7. Greensboro 15
8. Shenandoah 9



Uncle Jessie-
I wouldn't be too upset, Greensboro did get 8 points last year.  So it isn't as bad as you think.

I still don't think NCWC will finish first, there appears to be a couple of coaches that feel the same way.  If you take the 8pt first place votes out of the picture that leaves 6 points for two more coaches, am I correct? If that is the case then the average place after that is 6th place. hmm... The last two years the poll has not predicted the conference winner and the last three years has not predicted the team that finishes in last place. So more good news for SU.  Also the only time the first place votes finished 6 and 2, as with this one the team that got the 2 votes finished in last place.  I don't think CNU will do that.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 31, 2007, 02:13:48 PM
i tuned in for a little of the webcast (about 30 seconds)...since my computer at work doesn't have speakers, it was impossible to tell what was being said, but i will tell you this...that LOOKED big time - with the usasac logo draped behind the coaches and the bunting on the podium...i thought i was watching the acc coaches conference...really great job by all involved in the planning and implementation (at least from what i saw on the web)

pfs - i feel that the monarchs are a bit over-rated, as well, but i really think you can put a blanket over spots 3-8 this year...maybe there is something to pat's "disrespect" theory re: the scots :) - i thought they might be picked anywhere from 3rd to 5th...and, well, they are...but i would probably put them at 3rd

for what it's worth...here is my poll (if i previously posted a poll, this one supercedes it :))
cnu
ncwc
m'ville
mu
au
fc
gc
su
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 31, 2007, 02:41:20 PM
I agree with Narch's poll except I would switch GC and SU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 31, 2007, 03:22:43 PM

I'm bias!  This will be a good year for the Pride.  Cnu is sill the team to beat.   NC Wes will prob lose 3 conf games.  Maryville will be tough but the road games are going to be tough.  Ferrum will probally have some of last yrs problems fixed.  Greensboro has a ton of seniors.  Methodist could be better than this if the qb starts playing better.  I think Averett is going to fall to the bottom this year (but only for a year).  SU, get a new offense.

Cnu
NC Wes
Maryville
Ferrum
Greensboro
Methodist
Averett
Shenadoah

I would have put Greensboro at the number one spot but its better to be the underdog going into the season.  Why do preseason polls exist?  I think it is out of boredom.

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on July 31, 2007, 05:19:08 PM
Amen on that about SU should get a new offense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 31, 2007, 09:54:59 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot   On a side note, it was awesome to see a USA South player competing on the international level for the national team.
/quote]

I read today that Rob Rodriguez was one of 13 players from the USA team named to the "All-Star" team from the World Championship tournament!! I'm looking around to see who else was named.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 31, 2007, 10:08:32 PM
oops..i messed up the quote below....oh well....too tired to fix it.

here's the link....if i read it right...2 d3 players on the "all-star" tem.

Congrats to RobRod!!!

Rob Rodriguez (http://www.usafootball.com/articles/29-international/134-us-senior-national-team/538-team-usa-places-13-players-on-ifaf-world-championship-all-star-team.php)

(Modified for formatting...Thanks / Ralph Turner)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 01, 2007, 08:45:12 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 31, 2007, 10:08:32 PM
oops..i messed up the quote below....oh well....too tired to fix it.

here's the link....if i read it right...2 d3 players on the "all-star" tem.

Congrats to RobRod!!!

Rob Rodriguez (http://www.usafootball.com/articles/29-international/134-us-senior-national-team/538-team-usa-places-13-players-on-ifaf-world-championship-all-star-team.php)

How is it that Korea's coach makes the all-star team, when Korea doesn't even win the championship?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 01, 2007, 11:36:08 AM
because his team was only outscored 110-0 in the tournament!! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on August 01, 2007, 08:30:45 PM
Greetings everyone, not much time left before the student- athletes begin showing up for pre- season camp. I think that the pre-season poll will not ever be able to predict just how the teams will finish the season. There are just to many different variables that could derail any team's season. I would also like to congratulate SU and MC for each placing players on the D3 football pre-season AA team.
Title: Here we go!
Post by: Eh-You on August 01, 2007, 08:33:15 PM
OK - honest, unpopular opinion #1 for 2007 (that will cost me karma no doubt). Why are NCW and their QB getting so much love? Granted I've only seen them play once (last year vs. AU) but the QB basically lost that game with poor play at the end of the game so I left with a bad taste in my mouth. I think a team (and QB) ready to take that next step beats last year's Averett team at home. What's different about them now?  Give me CNU all day.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 01, 2007, 10:35:04 PM
While NCW is bringing back some very solid defensive numbers, it's the team's offense that's earning it most of the love this year.

Townsend, the team's QB, led the USA South in passing last year and was also one of the top 10 rushers in the conference. That combination alone, being able to throw and scramble, weighs heavily in his favor.

But the team is also bringing back three wideouts who last year ranked in the top five of receiving yards per game, so Townsend is going to have lots of targets out there. And to round things out, the ground game is good with Teron Bush, who, if I remember correctly, was the USA South rookie of the year last season.

All this looks good -- really good -- at least on paper. CNU, though, is definitely a hoss. Almost always is, and will be again this year, especially with Faison under center. He really came into his own last year.

I've never been shy saying that I'm favoring the Bishops this year, but it would be daft of me to think conference play is going to be a cakewalk this year -- especially when they face CNU and Maryville.

So, Eh-You, even if you might be voicing a somewhat unpopular opinion, it's hardly an unreasonable one. And it's a good question to ask. I would even bet that there are at least a couple people on this board who wholely agree with you.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 01, 2007, 10:47:57 PM
Quote from: WCLegacy on August 01, 2007, 10:35:04 PM
While NCW is bringing back some very solid defensive numbers, it's the team's offense that's earning it most of the love this year.

Townsend, the team's QB, led the USA South in passing last year and was also one of the top 10 rushers in the conference. That combination alone, being able to throw and scramble, weighs heavily in his favor.

But the team is also bringing back three wideouts who last year ranked in the top five of receiving yards per game, so Townsend is going to have lots of targets out there. And to round things out, the ground game is good with Teron Bush, who, if I remember correctly, was the USA South rookie of the year last season.

All this looks good -- really good -- at least on paper. CNU, though, is definitely a hoss. Almost always is, and will be again this year, especially with Faison under center. He really came into his own last year.

I've never been shy saying that I'm favoring the Bishops this year, but it would be daft of me to think conference play is going to be a cakewalk this year -- especially when they face CNU and Maryville.

So, Eh-You, even if you might be voicing a somewhat unpopular opinion, it's hardly an unreasonable one. And it's a good question to ask. I would even bet that there are at least a couple people on this board who wholely agree with you.  :)
nicely written. NCW scares me....Bush is a good RB......would be at CNU except he didn't meet academic standards (so i've been told). AU scares me too. Not sure why, they just do. MU doesn't for some reason, maybe cuz Narch doesn't scare me!!! meow!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 02, 2007, 12:18:15 AM
It's obivious why I am writing on this board and not coaching which means the coaches know more than I. However I still believe my predications several months ago are still going to hold out. I have said all along NCWC will be the team to beat this year. CNU as always will be there at the end. I strongly believe Maryville will give a better showing than the coaches poll as I have to support AU. AU certainly lost a lot of seniors last year and many consider those shoes hard to fill. However they have over 35 or more Jr's with 90% of them having play time. I am confident Dunlevy will find the right mix and AU will be in the middle of the hunt come Nov. I agree Methodist will be tough this year as well. Not sure what they lost or will gain this year but they were tough last year and only a couple of plays away from being 8-2 for the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 02, 2007, 12:22:42 AM
Does anyone know where you can find the Media Day speeches at online. Only a few of the web pages for each school have theirs (Averett doesn't) and some don't. Local newspapers only have highlights of their speeches.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 02, 2007, 08:47:55 AM
I have said it before and have said it again.  CNU is and should be the favorite.  They won the conference and should continue to be the favorite until someone knocks them off the top.  NCWC yeah they may be a good team, but I still can't see them winning the conference. They have a tough schedule as did AU last year. Correct.  The difference is, ouside of CNU, they played an "easier" conference road schedule.  NCWC hasn't really dominated any team at home in thier early history.  Until they start rolling out 4-1 or 5-0 at home, maybe then we can say it is a "tough place to play."

Here is how you beat NCWC, keep thier offense off the field/have a lead late in the ball game. Every game they won they won the battle of possesion.  The exception was GC, but in that game they won the battle in the second half taking a 21-20 lead to 42-20 final. Last year it looked as if they weren't a team that could mount a comeback, losing in OT (failing to convert a 2pt conversion), losing on a missed FG, and losing on a costly TO. ( In those games they did win the battle of possession but were losing late in the game) Again though the OT loss MC did convert on the 2pt conversion that NCWC couldn't convert.

I still wouldn't count out FC.

Narch, Papi, and 'nova, I think you might enjoy this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19999629/site/newsweek/?gt1=10252  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 02, 2007, 02:50:51 PM
psbbg - thanks for the link...that was an enjoyable read

my bioethics prof. in college had similar hang-ups about cliche's...weird
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 02, 2007, 04:14:05 PM
I can't remember that far back.....college! maybe it's the beer!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 02, 2007, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 02, 2007, 04:14:05 PM
I can't remember that far back.....college! maybe it's the beer!
or maybe you're really old :)...papi was probably about 4 in 1985 and i know i was still in middle school...it's amazing you know how to work this computer thingy :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 03, 2007, 11:36:08 AM
I've heard that the TE from Shenandoah did not play for the Hornets last year, possibly the last two years, and was named on the Pre-Season All-American team.  I checked Shenandoah's 2006 roster and his name does not show up.  Maybe Pat can comment how he was named on the D-III All-American Team without playing last season?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 03, 2007, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: narch on August 02, 2007, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 02, 2007, 04:14:05 PM
I can't remember that far back.....college! maybe it's the beer!
or maybe you're really old :)...papi was probably about 4 in 1985 and i know i was still in middle school...it's amazing you know how to work this computer thingy :)

when i was in college....i used punch cards in my computer programming class.....I had to take the stack of cards...one card for each line of code...to the computer department, hand them in, and wait for the printout of results once the info was sent to the computer at William & Mary!! CNC at the time, was still heavily tied to W&M. Now that is OLD!! I still remember the "GOTO" statement on line 374....It took me 3 days to figure out I punched "G0TO" ...stupid zero, instead of an "O".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 03, 2007, 11:48:41 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on August 03, 2007, 11:36:08 AM
I've heard that the TE from Shenandoah did not play for the Hornets last year, possibly the last two years, and was named on the Pre-Season All-American team.  I checked Shenandoah's 2006 roster and his name does not show up.  Maybe Pat can comment how he was named on the D-III All-American Team without playing last season?

Maybe it was the same voters that voted the S. Korean coach to the all-tournament team after losing both games bya  combined 110-0!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 03, 2007, 12:08:49 PM
So a pattern is forming... I smell conspiracy  :D  What's next cats and dogs sleeping together???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 03, 2007, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 03, 2007, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: narch on August 02, 2007, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 02, 2007, 04:14:05 PM
I can't remember that far back.....college! maybe it's the beer!
or maybe you're really old :)...papi was probably about 4 in 1985 and i know i was still in middle school...it's amazing you know how to work this computer thingy :)

when i was in college....i used punch cards in my computer programming class.....I had to take the stack of cards...one card for each line of code...to the computer department, hand them in, and wait for the printout of results once the info was sent to the computer at William & Mary!! CNC at the time, was still heavily tied to W&M. Now that is OLD!! I still remember the "GOTO" statement on line 374....It took me 3 days to figure out I punched "G0TO" ...stupid zero, instead of an "O".

     They didn't have puters when I was in school!!  We used an abacus for ciphering.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 03, 2007, 12:45:16 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on August 03, 2007, 11:36:08 AM
I've heard that the TE from Shenandoah did not play for the Hornets last year, possibly the last two years, and was named on the Pre-Season All-American team.  I checked Shenandoah's 2006 roster and his name does not show up.  Maybe Pat can comment how he was named on the D-III All-American Team without playing last season?

It's a 2007 preseason All-American team, meaning it's a projection of your 2007 performance. Playing in 2006 is not a prerequisite.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 03, 2007, 12:52:56 PM
For those who didn't watch live and haven't been able to find it here are some highlights from Coach Sypult's annual one man comedy routine from Media Day. I also tossed in his serious side on D3 football at the close. For what he said about the team and expectations you'll have to find it from MU. It is so refreshing to have a coach that doesn't recite the media guide, down play or overbuild his team and just has fun with the event and will pick on himself and his colleagues.

You said you want to see me in a good mood again. I'm always in a good mood. I love the university. I love our players. I love our coaches. I love coach McAvoy. I love coach Wiggins. I love the students here. I love my wife. I love my daughters. I love my grandchildren. I love just about everybody. I love competition. I love each one of these guys (the coaches) They are all great guys. About the only time you'll see me in a bod mood is when Beatty brings across those guys  in black and white shirts. Then you'll see me in my bad mood. Other than that life is good.

On the Webcast
So this world wide? There are a billion people watching us. I want to say hi to old Lowery in Turkey. Hi Uncle Albert and all my friends in Italy.

Ribbing MC's Ierulli with the same joke as last year
"Tony already has Meredith on the schedule. "

On the coaches' poll
"Lets talk about the polls. This is unbelievable. I counted, three of the five teams below us beat us last year. And we got ranked above them. If the truth be told when (CU coach) Matt goes home he's going to put that poll up.

"Its already up" said Matt

"Five of thelast six years he's shared the conference title. Jack he's going to say alright you got up there now you've got to prove it. And the rest of us are going to do the same thing that Matt did. How dare they put us below No. 1! That's the truth of the matter. Right or wrong its going on the bulletin board with snap shot of Greensboro here last year. (responding to GC coach saying that to see how the planned to utilize Torrey Lowe this season look at how he was used against Methodist last season)
I can't belive we're third. I tried to teach a semianr this winter on how to go from eight wins and a title to four wins. I didn't get any takers."

On the season
"The most often asked question I get is what did we learn from last year. Honestly I guess two people asked and one of those was when I asked the paper to ask me.
Here's what we learned. Don't lose the team MVP on offense. Try to keep him.
Don't give up big plays.
Score when you have the ball in the red zone and have some consistency in the kicking game.
That was our problems last year. As to what we're going to do about it there's an old Frank Sinatra song. If you aren't old enough to know Frank Sinatra he's kind of like Justin Timberlanke. except Sinatra had the mafia that family that Tony (Ierulli) belongs to. If you make a wrong move down in Maryville you're not going to be seen for long after that.

"I believe in luck. Several years ago I went to Hawaiii and I went over to that island that has the volcano and I picked up a black rock and brought it back it was the worst year i had in my life. I went to Ireland and I got on my back and they hung me by legs and I kissed the blarney stone. We won the championship that year. I almost blew it though because a girl in front of me kissed it before I did. and then they put me down there and I kissed it and when i came back up me and my big mouth, with my wife standing there, I said 'well thats just like kissing you.'

On getting older as a coach:
"I used to look at their sisters and then it was the moms and now Im looking at the grandmas, life goes on."

And on the serios side:
"We have higher standards in this room right here than society does. And that's hard sometimes.
There are no frills in D3 there is no ESPN then look at the junk thats on there. No scholarships. We're teaching integrity charctaer and responsibility with young people so vital to this world. D3 guys are the epitomy of what that's all about. Now Im not knocking d1 and the other levels except to say this; our guys  are playing this game for the love  of the game and an education and that's where our responsibility is as coaches.
You know why they have problems with the game and are making rules to shorten the game. Its not D3 its TV. You come to a D3 game and that game rolls right on through  and its a beautiful thing and its played quickly. I think the media has to help us out there. Its not all the bad stuff and not all the big time .What we're doing is very impotant and a great game. Thats the essence of our sport in the teaching and the learning."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 03, 2007, 12:55:40 PM
And out of curiosity ...
CNU started three sophomore linebackers last year (Horan, Henry, Cappa) but not a one of them is on the preseason roster. Anybody know what happened there?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 03, 2007, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on August 03, 2007, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 03, 2007, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: narch on August 02, 2007, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 02, 2007, 04:14:05 PM
I can't remember that far back.....college! maybe it's the beer!
or maybe you're really old :)...papi was probably about 4 in 1985 and i know i was still in middle school...it's amazing you know how to work this computer thingy :)

when i was in college....i used punch cards in my computer programming class.....I had to take the stack of cards...one card for each line of code...to the computer department, hand them in, and wait for the printout of results once the info was sent to the computer at William & Mary!! CNC at the time, was still heavily tied to W&M. Now that is OLD!! I still remember the "GOTO" statement on line 374....It took me 3 days to figure out I punched "G0TO" ...stupid zero, instead of an "O".

     They didn't have puters when I was in school!!  We used an abacus for ciphering.  :D

This is for Mr. '85 and Mr. Allsky7

Did you guys have to use sundials too, to tell time.  :) We did learn how to make them, but I think it was out of respect for our elders.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 03, 2007, 04:22:27 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on August 03, 2007, 12:55:40 PM
And out of curiosity ...
CNU started three sophomore linebackers last year (Horan, Henry, Cappa) but not a one of them is on the preseason roster. Anybody know what happened there?

where did you see a preseason roster?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 03, 2007, 09:08:22 PM
Roster was in media day handout. Not the nice final printed version they do after camp but the little one on copy paper that everyone brings to the event.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 03, 2007, 10:08:41 PM
batteredbard - thanks for the tidbits from coach sy...that's not an act he's putting on, either

is there anywhere that this has been archived? i don't have speakers at work, and wasn't able to make it to campus to see it in person, but i'd love to hear what the coaches said first-hand
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 03, 2007, 11:42:40 PM
Here is a link to a youtube site (not sure if coleman allows it or not)??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePNDmBzcXgc


If your not a bonds fan I guess it is a little funny.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 04, 2007, 04:51:02 PM
Second?!?!  We'll see if Wesleyan can perform under pressure.

GO CAPS!

What's up, narch?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 04, 2007, 08:59:37 PM
whoa...swish making an appearance on the football board...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 05, 2007, 06:38:01 PM
Quote from: narch on August 03, 2007, 10:08:41 PM
batteredbard - thanks for the tidbits from coach sy...that's not an act he's putting on, either

is there anywhere that this has been archived? i don't have speakers at work, and wasn't able to make it to campus to see it in person, but i'd love to hear what the coaches said first-hand

keep an eye on the link in an old post prior to the live webcast that people used to hook up to the event live. last time i clicked  it, the site said that the event was waiting to be archived. maybe in a few days it will be archived. maybe never????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on August 05, 2007, 07:28:02 PM
fellas my heart is in my predictions I see it like this
NCWC  but the out of conference could hurt
CNU     always near the top
MARYVILLE  only because of so much experience
METHODIST tough always still could be third
AVERETT    solid in this place
FERRUM  a hard call but better than the bottom two
GREENSBORO  improved but a tough league
SHENANDOAH  this is all  they can do
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 06, 2007, 11:21:42 AM
I think I have mentioned where I expect teams to finish but I haven't really put out a ranking for the USASouth preseason.

CNU-too consistent to put them elsewhere

Averett-maybe a reach but I like how thier conference schedule favors them, They play the 2006-07 upper teams at home and the lower teams away.

Methodist-I don't think MU can stay down for long.

Maryville-Could be the suprise team to win the conference, however they have two long road trips to (SU and CNU) might just wear them down in the season.

NCWC-One solid year does not translate into a conference championship.  Recent years coaches preseason polls have not favored well for the season of those picked number 1.  My position favors well compared to teams of the past

Greensboro-I want them higher, but a new QB and new RB sometimes is a posion for a team.

Ferrum-Defense, Special Teams need vast improvements.  I don't think it will be accomplished in one year. Could be another surprise though.

Shenadoah- Road conference schedule is tough, plus GC they still have to play ( :) ) Bridgewater, and they just don't have the offensive firepower for Maryville. My prediction they won't be in last place next season.

Honestly I think 2-7 is really up in the air.  CNU is the favorite they have been the most consistent team of all the teams in the USASouth.

Narch- The USASouth Men's Soccer board has vanished.  I know you started it before, so by all means if you want to start again go ahead.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 06, 2007, 01:35:55 PM
PSBBG - you should save everyone's predictions...then when the season is over, come up witha formula to score everybody and see who is the "Grand Poobah of Prediction".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 06, 2007, 01:42:43 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 06, 2007, 01:35:55 PM
PSBBG - you should save everyone's predictions...then when the season is over, come up witha formula to score everybody and see who is the "Grand Poobah of Prediction".

Please post your predictions then, I don't want to exclude you from the 'Grand Poobah of Prediction'

Post it as well, so I can create the USASouth Poll from those that have posted thier predictions.  I don't want to exclude you from the USASouth Poll.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 06, 2007, 01:49:19 PM
Hey everyone. I made a yahoo fantasy football league devoted to D3 fans. Everyone is welcome as I have 9 spots left open. All I ask is that you name your team after your favorite Div. 3 team.

League ID#: 9077
League Name: FANS OF DIVISION 3 FOOTBALL
Password: usasouth
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 06, 2007, 02:28:53 PM
If CNU85 (Uncle Jessie you too) has a ranking preseason for the USASouth then I will change this USAsouth Fan poll to reflect his (thier) ranking as well. (If there are others then post your ranking and more then likely it might get considered)  This poll was assembled using USASouth posters that posted a ranking and for those that have been posting for a while now.

CNU 69.5 (6.5)
NCWC 61.5 (2.5)
Maryville 52.5
Methodist 46
Averett 36.5
Ferrum 29
Greensboro 24
Shenandoah 15

Poll now includes:

Narch, Moshergc, SU97, MC_Ftbl51, Uncle Jessie, Kickerdad, CNU85, Proudfightingscot and myself are included in this poll.

Looking now for one more poster.

Sorry Moshergc.  Vote can't be changed, as much as I would like to change it I can't.  Everybody else would want to change it too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 06, 2007, 02:42:53 PM
Here are my predictions,

CNU (God I hate picking them first)
Maryville (A lot better than people are thinking)
NCWC  (I think all this talk of being the conference champs of 07 is too much for them to handle)
Averett  (These 3 teams can go either way)
Methodist
Ferrum 
Greensboro (They disappoint the fans year after year)
Shenandoah  (As much as I hate picking CNU to finish first. It hurts even more to pick the Hornets to finish last. They need to get rid of the ACE-WING!!)


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 06, 2007, 02:48:22 PM
[date=1186421755]
PSBBG

Post it as well, so I can create the USASouth Poll from those that have posted thier predictions.  I don't want to exclude you from the USASouth Poll.
[/quote]

PSBBG - I think I danced around on this previously but never gave a final view point.  Here are my predications

1. NCWC tied w/CNU
2. Averett tied w/Maryville
3.Methodist
4.Greensboro
5.Ferrum
6.Shenandoah

The top 5 teams could all be in the middle of the pack or battling it out depending on how each one does with the out of conference schedule. I know CNU, Averett, NCWC play some pretty tough teams, up front. Don't know much about Maryville and Methodist's out of conference rivals. The whole thing could come down to a shoot out the last 4 weeks of the season. (With some interesting surprises)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle on August 06, 2007, 03:57:22 PM
CNU
GC
MC
NCWC
AV.
METHODIST
FERRUM
SU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 06, 2007, 04:04:48 PM
dang...there's your 3...guess i'm out.  ;D

someone asked about the 3 starting linebackers at CNU....It's true, they're gone. Yikes!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 06, 2007, 04:09:37 PM
CNU
NCWC
Maryville
Methodist
Averett
Ferrum
Greensboro
SU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 06, 2007, 04:13:33 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 06, 2007, 04:04:48 PM
dang...there's your 3...guess i'm out.  ;D

someone asked about the 3 starting linebackers at CNU....It's true, they're gone. Yikes!!

No I need 3 more.  You are still safe, I don't know If I am going to include footballsouthernstyle's poll.  He is another GC fan and I really don't want more than two from each school.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 06, 2007, 04:30:02 PM
ok....here's mine....with about 5 minutes of thought...

CNU - gotta do that!!
NCW
MC
MU
FC
AU
SU
GC -  ;D

7 through 8 are tossups!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 06, 2007, 05:45:07 PM
Im Changing Mine,

Greensboro College
CNU
Maryville
NCW
FC
MC
AU
Su

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 06, 2007, 07:48:11 PM
that was funny....+1 for Mosh
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 06, 2007, 09:31:51 PM
-1 for not joking...

Take it back.  Do it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 06, 2007, 10:27:19 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 06, 2007, 09:31:51 PM
-1 for not joking...

Take it back.  Do it.

ok...but you have to wait 24 hrs ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 07, 2007, 08:15:17 AM
The main reason for this poll was to see if we as fans can predict the conference standings.  Also really to see if there is difference between the coaches and the "writers" (posters poll) haha.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on August 07, 2007, 12:04:10 PM
Hello all i am back for another year have been working way too much to get on here untill now but I am going to make my predictions right now on how I think things are going to shape up I know that the preseason poll is ready but it has nothing to do with my picks here we go and i will only be commenting on the top three.


1. CNU---always the powerhouse in the league
2.NCWC--Strong returning players but dont think that is going to be enough
3.Maryville---looks to be a strong year for the Scotts
4. Averett
5. Methodist
6. Greensboro
7.SU
8. Ferrum
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 07, 2007, 02:42:02 PM
I don't know if Pat will like it, but I had to share this.

How am I going to tie this into d3football, hmm I remember correctly this player played his high school ball in CNU85's "backyard"


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20162029/?GT1=10252


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 07, 2007, 03:26:26 PM
that's too funny...I was just reading the same article in the local newspaper!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on August 07, 2007, 05:19:57 PM
I see there's lots of love for NCWC on this board.
Having an offense is not the only thing they feature .
Those young men also play a little defense. The season
can't get here soon enough!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 07, 2007, 09:47:09 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 07, 2007, 02:42:02 PM
I don't know if Pat will like it, but I had to share this.

How am I going to tie this into d3football, hmm I remember correctly this player played his high school ball in CNU85's "backyard"


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20162029/?GT1=10252


this is my favorite line in the entire story..."(Click here for to see ebay search results for toy on MSN Shopping.)"...looks like a g'boro grad wrote the story :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on August 07, 2007, 10:30:55 PM
What I hope for:
AVERETT
NCWC
CNU
METHODIST
MARYVILLE
FERRUM
GREENSBORO
SU

What I think:
1- NCWC
2-AVERETT
2-CNU
4- METHODIST
5- MARYVILLE
6-FERRUM
7- GREENSBORO
8-SU

Averett still has a lot of talent coming back, that one thing that helped us win a Championship last year, DEPTH.  Now these kids are going to be in starting roles and they know what it takes! NCWC will be a tough game for everyone this year just like last year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 07, 2007, 10:48:47 PM
Narch,

  If you keep writing bad stuff like that about my alma im going to start writing back in sharpie green.


Parsons,

   I wanted to thank you for giving me the best hit i ever had on a wr (my junior yr).  You payed me back though with  a TD, I will always have to live with that.  Good Luck working with C. Cline at McDaniel he was a lovely fellow (sarcasm). 

Roll Pride

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on August 08, 2007, 01:08:02 AM
Parsons, I think your picks have left me feeling that Averett &
Maryville could be cast in the role of conference spoilers. Also,
the USA SOUTH maybe tougher top to bottom than the ODAC.
THINK!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 08, 2007, 08:14:18 AM
Ok here is the final preseason USASouth (Writers/Posters)  :) Fan poll.

CNU 75.5(6.5)
NCWC 69.5(3.5)
Maryville 56.5
Methodist 51
Averett 43.5
Ferrum 32
Greensboro 26
Shenandoah 16

The Poll consists of voters (fans) 2 from MU, 2 from GC, 2 from SU, 2 from AU, 1 from CNU, and 1 from MC.

The top 3 schools in the poll were also the schools that were under represented by voters. (FC was under represented as well.) Does that mean anything? No, but I thought it was worth mentioning.  Maybe it means the voters weren't bias in thier choices.

Also can someone shine the light on the idea of 4AA vs 4A for NC high school playoffs.  What is the difference between the two (3A,2A, and 1A as well)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 08, 2007, 09:32:20 AM
Quote from: narch on August 07, 2007, 09:47:09 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 07, 2007, 02:42:02 PM
I don't know if Pat will like it, but I had to share this.

How am I going to tie this into d3football, hmm I remember correctly this player played his high school ball in CNU85's "backyard"


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20162029/?GT1=10252


instant classic
this is my favorite line in the entire story..."(Click here for to see ebay search results for toy on MSN Shopping.)"...looks like a g'boro grad wrote the story :)


instant classic
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 08, 2007, 09:33:59 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 07, 2007, 10:48:47 PM
 
   You payed me back


Narch - get up off the floor or you'll wet your pants!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 08, 2007, 11:40:02 AM
This article originally appeared in the Maryville Daily Times:

http://www.gborocollege.edu/weblog.php?action=showpage&page=article&aid=2088&blogid=9&offset=0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 08, 2007, 02:41:29 PM
PrideSportsBBall,

  Greenville Rose, Independence.  But that is only two of the million teams that get into the playoffs. 

3 aa and 4a not much differant.

2a top tier teams can compete with the 3a and 3aa teams but anything lower hasnt a chance with maybe the excpetion of a very select few (teams like bunn can maybe compete depending on the talent they have that year.)  A team Im going to keep on a eye on is Roanoke Rapids.  They just got a new coach in Russel Weinstein and he is pretty keen on offense.  I met him at Northern Nash.  Grimsley lost the head man due to resignation and I think Page is going to start picking it up in our area.  It is tough predicting high school though unless you really know what people have coming back.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 08, 2007, 06:52:01 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 08, 2007, 09:33:59 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 07, 2007, 10:48:47 PM
 
   You payed me back


Narch - get up off the floor or you'll wet your pants!!!!
"payed"?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 08, 2007, 07:19:32 PM
Paid
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 08, 2007, 07:22:15 PM
at least it wasn't " pade"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 08, 2007, 07:38:16 PM
We all make mistakes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 08, 2007, 07:56:46 PM
  In a couple weeks we'll all be worried more about our teams and not so much grammar...
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 08, 2007, 07:38:16 PM
We all make mistakes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 08, 2007, 08:03:07 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 08, 2007, 07:56:46 PM
  In a couple weeks we'll all be worried more about our teams and not so much grammar...
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 08, 2007, 07:38:16 PM
We all make mistakes.

     Yeah...we all make mistakes. I made one once. Back in 79 I think it was. Or was in on 7/9? no..no I believe it was 79 mistakes since 7/9.....yeah, that's it.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 08, 2007, 08:06:01 PM
hell I had to retype this message 79 times to get it right ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: willierobin on August 08, 2007, 08:09:57 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on August 08, 2007, 01:08:02 AM
Parsons, I think your picks have left me feeling that Averett &
Maryville could be cast in the role of conference spoilers. Also,
the USA SOUTH maybe tougher top to bottom than the ODAC.
THINK!!!!!
Well, we will find out in the next few months, as the two leagues have 10 games scheduled between them. Personally, I think the ODAC will win at least 7, and possibly more. Here are the match-ups:
        9/1    SU at CUA, E&H at Ferrum
        9/8    BC at SU, Guilford at Methodist
        9/15   E&H at NCW, Ferrum at BC, Averett at Guilford
        9/22   W&L vs Averett (Salem)
        9/29   E&H at Methodist, Guilford at Greensboro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 08, 2007, 10:36:34 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 08, 2007, 07:38:16 PM
We all make mistakes.
Yeah, we do - including me.  Sorry, moshergc9.  I didn't mean to get a whole series of posts started about something so innocuous ... it was not meant to be a big deal at all.  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 09, 2007, 07:51:08 AM
Quote from: willierobin on August 08, 2007, 08:09:57 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on August 08, 2007, 01:08:02 AM
Parsons, I think your picks have left me feeling that Averett &
Maryville could be cast in the role of conference spoilers. Also,
the USA SOUTH maybe tougher top to bottom than the ODAC.
THINK!!!!!
Well, we will find out in the next few months, as the two leagues have 10 games scheduled between them. Personally, I think the ODAC will win at least 7, and possibly more. Here are the match-ups:
        9/1    SU at CUA, E&H at Ferrum
        9/8    BC at SU, Guilford at Methodist
        9/15   E&H at NCW, Ferrum at BC, Averett at Guilford
        9/22   W&L vs Averett (Salem)
        9/29   E&H at Methodist, Guilford at Greensboro

the ODAC should win the series......bunch of bottom feeders....half the gaes are against the bottom 3 teams in the USA South (per preseason coaches poll).....BC is at it again...Ferrum and SU????? I think Southern Va was getting too tough for them!! ;D  A little humor for the lurking llamaguy!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 09, 2007, 08:15:05 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 09, 2007, 07:51:08 AM
Quote from: willierobin on August 08, 2007, 08:09:57 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on August 08, 2007, 01:08:02 AM
Parsons, I think your picks have left me feeling that Averett &
Maryville could be cast in the role of conference spoilers. Also,
the USA SOUTH maybe tougher top to bottom than the ODAC.
THINK!!!!!
Well, we will find out in the next few months, as the two leagues have 10 games scheduled between them. Personally, I think the ODAC will win at least 7, and possibly more. Here are the match-ups:
        9/1    SU at CUA, E&H at Ferrum
        9/8    BC at SU, Guilford at Methodist
        9/15   E&H at NCW, Ferrum at BC, Averett at Guilford
        9/22   W&L vs Averett (Salem)
        9/29   E&H at Methodist, Guilford at Greensboro

the ODAC should win the series......bunch of bottom feeders....half the gaes are against the bottom 3 teams in the USA South (per preseason coaches poll).....BC is at it again...Ferrum and SU????? I think Southern Va was getting too tough for them!! ;D  A little humor for the lurking llamaguy!!!

ODAC won the series last year, so this is old news. They will do it again, but if for some reason these bottom feeders (FC and SU mostly) return to winning form of years past, then we are looking at about .500.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on August 09, 2007, 10:03:22 AM
Quote from: willierobin on August 08, 2007, 08:09:57 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on August 08, 2007, 01:08:02 AM
Parsons, I think your picks have left me feeling that Averett &
Maryville could be cast in the role of conference spoilers. Also,
the USA SOUTH maybe tougher top to bottom than the ODAC.
THINK!!!!!
Well, we will find out in the next few months, as the two leagues have 10 games scheduled between them. Personally, I think the ODAC will win at least 7, and possibly more. Here are the match-ups:
        9/1    SU at CUA, E&H at Ferrum
        9/8    BC at SU, Guilford at Methodist
        9/15   E&H at NCW, Ferrum at BC, Averett at Guilford
        9/22   W&L vs Averett (Salem)
        9/29   E&H at Methodist, Guilford at Greensboro

ODAC should take 8. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on August 09, 2007, 12:00:15 PM
Quote from: SU97 on August 09, 2007, 10:03:22 AM
Quote from: willierobin on August 08, 2007, 08:09:57 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on August 08, 2007, 01:08:02 AM
Parsons, I think your picks have left me feeling that Averett &
Maryville could be cast in the role of conference spoilers. Also,
the USA SOUTH maybe tougher top to bottom than the ODAC.
THINK!!!!!
Well, we will find out in the next few months, as the two leagues have 10 games scheduled between them. Personally, I think the ODAC will win at least 7, and possibly more. Here are the match-ups:
        9/1    SU at CUA, E&H at Ferrum
        9/8    BC at SU, Guilford at Methodist
        9/15   E&H at NCW, Ferrum at BC, Averett at Guilford
        9/22   W&L vs Averett (Salem)
        9/29   E&H at Methodist, Guilford at Greensboro

ODAC should take 8. 


I am going to go out on a limb and say that the USA South is going to win the series this year there are ten games and think it is goint to come down to the last two games and think that the USA South is going to be much stronger this year than last but still have the powerhouses. So i am going to make my call the usa south wins it 6-4
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 09, 2007, 12:22:11 PM
Looking at Massey's Ratings for last year, the USA South was ranked 17th, while the ODAC was ranked 18th.  You can't solely rely on which conference wins the most games head to head when considering who's better, as CNU85 mentioned.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 09, 2007, 01:45:25 PM
Hey D3 fans. I have a Yahoo league set up for D3 fans only. Everyone is welcome. I have 6 spots left open. All I ask is that you name your team after your fav. D3 school. Here is all the information you will need. Again. everyone D3 fan is welcome from all leagues. I have it open to all fans but I would really like to have a few more USAC fans in it along with ODAC for we all know each other better. Hope you join.

League ID#: 9077
League Name: FANS OF DIVISION 3 FOOTBALL
Password: usasouth

Draft Type: Live Draft 
Draft Time: Sun Aug 19 7:00pm EDT 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bomb8 on August 09, 2007, 04:45:07 PM
Well I've seen the preseason poll and I dont agree with it at all, here is my prediction.

CNU
NCWU
AU
MU
Meth
GC
FC/SU

I know the games haven't started yet but at the end of the yr this will be the turnout.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 09, 2007, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: Bomb8 on August 09, 2007, 04:45:07 PM
Well I've seen the preseason poll and I dont agree with it at all, here is my prediction.

CNU
NCWU
AU
MU
Meth
GC
FC/SU

I know the games haven't started yet but at the end of the yr this will be the turnout.

That poll is a possibility but Averett lost a TON from last year.  It will definately be a rebuilding year for them and so it will most likely be a bottom 4 finish for them this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 09, 2007, 07:16:54 PM
Generally I don't do this but since a few folks have asked about a broken link that's not under my control I will.
The first three USAC teams previews from The Maryville Daily Times are:

No. 8 Shenandoah http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070807/SPORTS/70807024&SearchID=73289768904555 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070807/SPORTS/70807024&SearchID=73289768904555)

No. 7 Greensboro  www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070808/SPORTS/70808014&SearchID=73289768835677 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070808/SPORTS/70808014&SearchID=73289768835677)

No. 6 Ferrum www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070809/SPORTS/70808051 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070809/SPORTS/70808051)

The teams are being run in reverse order of the coaches' preseason poll for lack of any other criteria besides alphabetical order. It's a first time experimental series out of USAC Media Day that follows the series that comes out of SEC Media Days. I'll let the fans of the other five post with commentary if they desire with the warning that apparently a link to a school site that itself links to the paper's site doesn't carry through very relaibly for some reason and I can't fix that problem.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on August 09, 2007, 09:10:37 PM
CNU85 hit the nail on the head.  The deck is stacked... Here is a quick breakdown based on the preseason rank from each conference (ODAC on left, USASAC on right)


CUA  [6]  vs  SU  [8]
E&H [4]  vs Ferrum  [6]
BC [1]  vs SU [8]
Guilford [3]  vs Methodist [3]
E&H [4]  vs NCW [1]
BC [1] vs  Ferrum [6] 
Guilford [3] vs  Averett [4]
W&L [2] vs Averett [4]
E&H [4] vs Methodist [3]
Guilford [3] vs Greensboro [7]

PSBBG:  why don't you run a quick statistical analysis on this... ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on August 09, 2007, 09:23:02 PM
Hey Kickerdad, some dude on the Nat'l D3 Issues page stole your picture.    :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on August 09, 2007, 11:57:34 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 09, 2007, 07:51:08 AM

the ODAC should win the series......bunch of bottom feeders....half the gaes are against the bottom 3 teams in the USA South (per preseason coaches poll).....BC is at it again...Ferrum and SU????? I think Southern Va was getting too tough for them!! ;D  A little humor for the lurking llamaguy!!!

You know us 85, not gonna put CNU back on the schedule! ;D Will be adding Averett to the schedule next year. Too bad we couldn't have made it Greensboro instead. LOL!

Hey, you gonna have that tailgate up and running at POMOCO this year? You guys have way too nice of a piece of real estate not to take advantage of it on home Saturdays! ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 10, 2007, 08:32:23 AM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on August 09, 2007, 01:45:25 PM
Hey D3 fans. I have a Yahoo league set up for D3 fans only. Everyone is welcome. I have 6 spots left open. All I ask is that you name your team after your fav. D3 school. Here is all the information you will need. Again. everyone D3 fan is welcome from all leagues. I have it open to all fans but I would really like to have a few more USAC fans in it along with ODAC for we all know each other better. Hope you join.

League ID#: 9077
League Name: FANS OF DIVISION 3 FOOTBALL
Password: usasouth

Draft Type: Live Draft 
Draft Time: Sun Aug 19 7:00pm EDT 


I joined the league.

SU97 and Uncle Jessie-
It looks as if I am not going to make the trip to Winchester this year. Somebody I know very well is getting inducted into the Bridgewater Hall of Fame that same weekend, so I am heading to that ceremony.  It looks as if I will see Guilford play 3 times this year.  That game, GC vs GC, and Guilford vs Hampden-Sydney (I won't be making the Maryville trip that same weekend.)

I promise Greensboro, I am NOT a Guilford fan. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 10, 2007, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 10, 2007, 08:32:23 AM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on August 09, 2007, 01:45:25 PM
Hey D3 fans. I have a Yahoo league set up for D3 fans only. Everyone is welcome. I have 6 spots left open. All I ask is that you name your team after your fav. D3 school. Here is all the information you will need. Again. everyone D3 fan is welcome from all leagues. I have it open to all fans but I would really like to have a few more USAC fans in it along with ODAC for we all know each other better. Hope you join.

League ID#: 9077
League Name: FANS OF DIVISION 3 FOOTBALL
Password: usasouth

Draft Type: Live Draft 
Draft Time: Sun Aug 19 7:00pm EDT 


I joined the league.

SU97 and Uncle Jessie-
It looks as if I am not going to make the trip to Winchester this year. Somebody I know very well is getting inducted into the Bridgewater Hall of Fame that same weekend, so I am heading to that ceremony.  It looks as if I will see Guilford play 3 times this year.  That game, GC vs GC, and Guilford vs Hampden-Sydney (I won't be making the Maryville trip that same weekend.)

I promise Greensboro, I am NOT a Guilford fan.
I'll probably be at all three of those games, so be sure to say hello.  I am a Guilford fan, but I don't mind if Greensboro wins a few times this year.  I do, however, definitely want Guilford to top Greensboro in the 11th annual "Souper" Bowl!   By the say, in the links posted above on preseason USASAC reports, Greensboro was misspelled in the article's headline.  Tsk, tsk.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 10, 2007, 10:13:55 AM
Quote from: SU97 on August 09, 2007, 09:23:02 PM
Hey Kickerdad, some dude on the Nat'l D3 Issues page stole your picture.    :o

SU97,

He must be one mean, bad dude, or either his brain is fried like mine. Who would want to look like Bruce in real life??? (Unless that would attract Demi to you).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 10, 2007, 10:19:17 AM
Someone posed a question a few months back on what the average number of new recruits were for each school, that goes to training camp. Just took my son back to Averett yesterday and the comment was made that there would be close to 200 on the field today including upperclassmen that are returning. Largest recruiting class at Averett so far.

Now the 64,000 dollar question is, how many will be on the field Sunday after all the run test are completed?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 10, 2007, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on August 09, 2007, 11:57:34 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 09, 2007, 07:51:08 AM

the ODAC should win the series......bunch of bottom feeders....half the gaes are against the bottom 3 teams in the USA South (per preseason coaches poll).....BC is at it again...Ferrum and SU????? I think Southern Va was getting too tough for them!! ;D  A little humor for the lurking llamaguy!!!

You know us 85, not gonna put CNU back on the schedule! ;D Will be adding Averett to the schedule next year. Too bad we couldn't have made it Greensboro instead. LOL!

Hey, you gonna have that tailgate up and running at POMOCO this year? You guys have way too nice of a piece of real estate not to take advantage of it on home Saturdays! ;)

I'm ready to go....but you wouldn't believe how tough it is to find old people like me to come out on a Saturday morning for communion!!  ;D

Are you guys headed to all BC games this year - home and away? I was thinking about sneaking one in on a CNU away game if the BC game is closer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on August 10, 2007, 11:39:40 AM
Quote from: hasanova on August 10, 2007, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 10, 2007, 08:32:23 AM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on August 09, 2007, 01:45:25 PM
Hey D3 fans. I have a Yahoo league set up for D3 fans only. Everyone is welcome. I have 6 spots left open. All I ask is that you name your team after your fav. D3 school. Here is all the information you will need. Again. everyone D3 fan is welcome from all leagues. I have it open to all fans but I would really like to have a few more USAC fans in it along with ODAC for we all know each other better. Hope you join.

League ID#: 9077
League Name: FANS OF DIVISION 3 FOOTBALL
Password: usasouth

Draft Type: Live Draft 
Draft Time: Sun Aug 19 7:00pm EDT 


I joined the league.

SU97 and Uncle Jessie-
It looks as if I am not going to make the trip to Winchester this year. Somebody I know very well is getting inducted into the Bridgewater Hall of Fame that same weekend, so I am heading to that ceremony.  It looks as if I will see Guilford play 3 times this year.  That game, GC vs GC, and Guilford vs Hampden-Sydney (I won't be making the Maryville trip that same weekend.)

I promise Greensboro, I am NOT a Guilford fan.
I'll probably be at all three of those games, so be sure to say hello.  I am a Guilford fan, but I don't mind if Greensboro wins a few times this year.  I do, however, definitely want Guilford to top Greensboro in the 11th annual "Souper" Bowl!   By the say, in the links posted above on preseason USASAC reports, Greensboro was misspelled in the article's headline.  Tsk, tsk.  :)


I tell you I think is going to be hard for Guilford looking at the Schedule for Greensboro that is the home opener for the Pride and you know that they are going to be fired up should i mention that even though we finished 0 and whatever after the first two home games last year we were 2-1 in the first three games at home last year and if you think about it we should of lost that one game because it was a D2 team. So I figure it as going 2-0 against actuall opponets
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 10, 2007, 02:21:35 PM
Gullet
GC-Q and Pride............I do not see an advantage either way.

Too close to each other. 15-30 minutes away.

One time mind you I saw it when Greensboro had almost packed their side (almost) for a night game in either 02-03.  frankly I was a little surprized at the crowd noise.

The Jack Daniels bottles did not. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 10, 2007, 04:44:31 PM
Narch - you have got to be enjoying this!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on August 11, 2007, 12:27:39 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 10, 2007, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on August 09, 2007, 11:57:34 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 09, 2007, 07:51:08 AM

the ODAC should win the series......bunch of bottom feeders....half the gaes are against the bottom 3 teams in the USA South (per preseason coaches poll).....BC is at it again...Ferrum and SU????? I think Southern Va was getting too tough for them!! ;D  A little humor for the lurking llamaguy!!!

You know us 85, not gonna put CNU back on the schedule! ;D Will be adding Averett to the schedule next year. Too bad we couldn't have made it Greensboro instead. LOL!

Hey, you gonna have that tailgate up and running at POMOCO this year? You guys have way too nice of a piece of real estate not to take advantage of it on home Saturdays! ;)

I'm ready to go....but you wouldn't believe how tough it is to find old people like me to come out on a Saturday morning for communion!!  ;D

Are you guys headed to all BC games this year - home and away? I was thinking about sneaking one in on a CNU away game if the BC game is closer.

You know me, I'll be at a D3 game every weekend from Sept.1st until Dec. 15th minus Oct. 6th which is BC's open weekend. Pick a game and come join us. The best away game on the slate will be at Hampden-Sydney Sept. 29th. Stone Station is planning on doing the full spread in their parkinglot, complete with a 3 car Sherriff's escort.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on August 11, 2007, 09:01:27 AM
my 2 guaranteed picks that might be up in the air for others...NCWC will beat Wesley and Averett will beat W&L
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 11, 2007, 09:20:24 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on August 11, 2007, 12:27:39 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 10, 2007, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on August 09, 2007, 11:57:34 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 09, 2007, 07:51:08 AM

the ODAC should win the series......bunch of bottom feeders....half the gaes are against the bottom 3 teams in the USA South (per preseason coaches poll).....BC is at it again...Ferrum and SU????? I think Southern Va was getting too tough for them!! ;D  A little humor for the lurking llamaguy!!!

You know us 85, not gonna put CNU back on the schedule! ;D Will be adding Averett to the schedule next year. Too bad we couldn't have made it Greensboro instead. LOL!

Hey, you gonna have that tailgate up and running at POMOCO this year? You guys have way too nice of a piece of real estate not to take advantage of it on home Saturdays! ;)

I'm ready to go....but you wouldn't believe how tough it is to find old people like me to come out on a Saturday morning for communion!!  ;D

Are you guys headed to all BC games this year - home and away? I was thinking about sneaking one in on a CNU away game if the BC game is closer.

You know me, I'll be at a D3 game every weekend from Sept.1st until Dec. 15th minus Oct. 6th which is BC's open weekend. Pick a game and come join us. The best away game on the slate will be at Hampden-Sydney Sept. 29th. Stone Station is planning on doing the full spread in their parkinglot, complete with a 3 car Sherriff's escort.  ;D ;D ;D

i'm checking my calendar.....oh...and the wife.....might bring her along for some games....she doesn't particularly like sports...but she likes getting away for weekends and enjoys people.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 11, 2007, 12:40:30 PM
Parsons,

  How much money do you want to put on those two?

  Id pretty much bet my life savings that your wrong.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 11, 2007, 04:40:20 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on August 11, 2007, 12:27:39 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 10, 2007, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on August 09, 2007, 11:57:34 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 09, 2007, 07:51:08 AM

the ODAC should win the series......bunch of bottom feeders....half the gaes are against the bottom 3 teams in the USA South (per preseason coaches poll).....BC is at it again...Ferrum and SU????? I think Southern Va was getting too tough for them!! ;D  A little humor for the lurking llamaguy!!!

You know us 85, not gonna put CNU back on the schedule! ;D Will be adding Averett to the schedule next year. Too bad we couldn't have made it Greensboro instead. LOL!

Hey, you gonna have that tailgate up and running at POMOCO this year? You guys have way too nice of a piece of real estate not to take advantage of it on home Saturdays! ;)

I'm ready to go....but you wouldn't believe how tough it is to find old people like me to come out on a Saturday morning for communion!!  ;D

Are you guys headed to all BC games this year - home and away? I was thinking about sneaking one in on a CNU away game if the BC game is closer.

You know me, I'll be at a D3 game every weekend from Sept.1st until Dec. 15th minus Oct. 6th which is BC's open weekend. Pick a game and come join us. The best away game on the slate will be at Hampden-Sydney Sept. 29th. Stone Station is planning on doing the full spread in their parkinglot, complete with a 3 car Sherriff's escort.  ;D ;D ;D

     If you BC folk wouldn't come down to H-S and stir up trouble, you wouldn't have to worry about Officer Fife!!   ;D  Just tell them you know me and you won't have a bit of trouble.  :o On second thought, if you do that, they may call out the SWAT team and take all of you to the pokey.  :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 11, 2007, 10:13:51 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 11, 2007, 12:40:30 PM
Parsons,

  How much money do you want to put on those two?

  Id pretty much bet my life savings that your wrong.
mosh...for once in our lives (and probably the ONLY time) we agree...although i think au over w&l is at least possible...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on August 12, 2007, 09:30:27 AM
Parsons, your Averett pick might be a good one. W&L has a good squad
but they are not deep. That's a long ride to Dover DE. for NCWC & Wesley
should be tough again this year. Let's hope your right.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 12, 2007, 02:01:26 PM
speaking of long rides.......for those of you in the D3 "know".....CNU is traveling to Belton TX. Does anyone know of another D3 team traveling a longer distance in this upcoming season? Just using city names and not the actual addresses of each school, mapquest says it is 1493 miles from Newport News to Belton.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 12, 2007, 04:29:16 PM
Hardin-Simmons University in Abilene, TX to Linfield, OR -- 1992 miles
CNU to UMHB -- 1453 miles
UW La Crosse to Hardin-Simmons -- 1087 miles
UMHB to UW-Whitewater -- 1029 miles
Mississippi College to Sul Ross State -- 887 miles (a conference game)
McMurry University to Huntingdon College, Montgomery AL -- 826 miles
Sul Ross State to Louisiana College, Pineville LA -- 798 miles ( a conference game).

Those are the big 7 in the ASC.

Trinity San Antonio, TX to DePauw Greencastle IN -- 1141 miles.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 12, 2007, 05:57:40 PM
Claremont-Mudd-Scripps is playing at Kenyon the second week of September.

MapQuest puts the distance from Claremont, Calif., to Gambier, Ohio, at 2,271 miles.

Yikes!  :o :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on August 12, 2007, 06:23:45 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 12, 2007, 02:01:26 PM
speaking of long rides.......for those of you in the D3 "know".....CNU is traveling to Belton TX. Does anyone know of another D3 team traveling a longer distance in this upcoming season? Just using city names and not the actual addresses of each school, mapquest says it is 1493 miles from Newport News to Belton.

I am assuming those are air miles? I put more into a long bus trip than I do a 3hr plane flight.
Bridgewater has an 10.5 hr bus ride to LaGrange this year. If only we would have kept CNWho on our schedule! :o Guess Stone Station will get it's Frequent Rider Miles in this year. LOL!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 12, 2007, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on August 12, 2007, 06:23:45 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 12, 2007, 02:01:26 PM
speaking of long rides.......for those of you in the D3 "know".....CNU is traveling to Belton TX. Does anyone know of another D3 team traveling a longer distance in this upcoming season? Just using city names and not the actual addresses of each school, mapquest says it is 1493 miles from Newport News to Belton.

I am assuming those are air miles? I put more into a long bus trip than I do a 3hr plane flight.
Bridgewater has an 10.5 hr bus ride to LaGrange this year. If only we would have kept CNWho on our schedule! :o Guess Stone Station will get it's Frequent Rider Miles in this year. LOL!
596 Miles 9 hours and 29 minutes, Bridgewater VA to LaGrange GA.

Llamaguy, I hope you can serve as an ambassador if/when you go to LaGrange.

It would be good to get some LaGrange fans going on the boards.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 12, 2007, 09:24:15 PM
nicely done Ralph.

Ryan - that is a "Yikes" trip.

Leave it to Llama to try ad figure out miles "as the crow flies" vs "as the buffalo roam"  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 12, 2007, 11:21:08 PM
Llama

can't those llama's go cross country and cut some miles?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on August 13, 2007, 01:26:29 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 12, 2007, 09:24:15 PM
nicely done Ralph.

Ryan - that is a "Yikes" trip.

Leave it to Llama to try ad figure out miles "as the crow flies" vs "as the buffalo roam"  ;D

85,
Thats 'cus my butt ain't got no stewardess serving me cocktails while I'm driving the llama wagon across country!  :o It just ain't the same, although I do know where every Hooters is on the way. I use ta could fly Hooters Air but they grounded my girls b'cus the Mile High Club was getting too easy to attain. Damn bullies!

Ralph,
I'll do that! They had a good following make the trip to BC last fall. Good people. They should have a formidable team in the very near future.

PA,
They can, but it is the stopping to spit that really slows us down.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 13, 2007, 01:51:28 AM
You know, all this talk about the longest road trip(s) in DIII reminded me of the button I have in my collection of odds and ends that says "Okay, if you're so smart, what's the speed of dark!?"

With this conundrum in mind, what's the shortest road trip in DIII?  I think the annual intracity rivalry of Guilford and Greensboro might be a contender.  The Pride play at Jameison Stadium on the campus of the City of Greensboro's Grimsley HS.  It's a whopping 5 miles or so!  lol  Any others this short?  Perhaps Loras and the University of Dubuque to mention a possibility.

Note:  It's actually a little farther when the Pride visit Guilford because the Quakers play on their campus and the Pride's football home, Grimsley HS, is a couple of miles closer to Guilford College than Greensboro College is to Guilford College.  Call this a seven mile road trip!  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 13, 2007, 08:04:59 AM
Quote from: Parsons on August 11, 2007, 09:01:27 AM
my 2 guaranteed picks that might be up in the air for others...NCWC will beat Wesley and Averett will beat W&L

I do believe that latter is more of a possibility, however we have to remember Parsons is a football coach now, so....


It is also international lefthanders day.  So be nice to your fellow lefthanders.  Its not easy to be lefthanded in a righthanders world. I know, because I am lefthanded.

"Everyone is born righthanded, but only the best can overcome it."  :)

What is your take on the lefthanded QB, or lefthanded athlete?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 13, 2007, 12:33:36 PM
Good if you are rocky, tough if you are a QB.  I think it is only bad because in HS most coaches wont give left-handers a shot unless they are better than all the rightys.

When do you know if a kid is left-handed or not?

My nephew is golf prodigy.  He has his own set of golf clubs at 22 months.  He goes to driving range and connects on a consistent basis.  Its pretty amazing.  It is weird though because he will throw sometimes right handed but always swings left.

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 13, 2007, 12:54:12 PM
Quote from: Parsons on August 11, 2007, 09:01:27 AM
my 2 guaranteed picks that might be up in the air for others...NCWC will beat Wesley and Averett will beat W&L

Todd,

I hope you are 100% correct on the Averett game and 100% wrong on the Wesley game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 13, 2007, 01:02:29 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 12, 2007, 02:01:26 PM
speaking of long rides.......for those of you in the D3 "know".....CNU is traveling to Belton TX. Does anyone know of another D3 team traveling a longer distance in this upcoming season? Just using city names and not the actual addresses of each school, mapquest says it is 1493 miles from Newport News to Belton.

Averett has two long road games this year (Alliance, Ohio and Maryville, TN). These aren't to terrible for the team but for some parents we are looking at 12 hours driving time or more just in one direction. For me personally I will cover over 2,080 miles for both games and depending on how many rest stops momma takes, I will be on the road over 24 hours total. 

Certainly doesn't compare to 85's trip. If that was me, I would be cking out the planes and trains.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 13, 2007, 01:11:56 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 13, 2007, 12:33:36 PM
Good if you are rocky, tough if you are a QB.  I think it is only bad because in HS most coaches wont give left-handers a shot unless they are better than all the rightys.

When do you know if a kid is left-handed or not?

My nephew is golf prodigy.  He has his own set of golf clubs at 22 months.  He goes to driving range and connects on a consistent basis.  Its pretty amazing.  It is weird though because he will throw sometimes right handed but always swings left.

Roll Pride

My mom a huge baseball fan when I was growing up, always wanted me to pitch, I only pitched one game and pitched two innings.  First inning i saw 4 batters, I struck out 3 and walked one. I didn't have a second pitch only had a real fast fastball at 12 years old.  Next inning i gave up three runs, luckily we scored 5 runs in the first I was given the boot after that. Tried to pitch later on, I never could find the plate ever again. I stuck with RF and played well. I broke my wrist playing football my sophmore year of high school, I offically retired from baseball after that.

Moshergc9-
Many theories about when a kid is known to be left handed, at birth, environment, or just plain born with it.  I agree with the last one, my father is left handed too.  (I was always a good hitter against lefties, I thank my father on that one)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 13, 2007, 02:39:04 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 13, 2007, 08:04:59 AMWhat is your take on the lefthanded QB, or lefthanded athlete?

good for all positions except center (if a qb is the best on the team, who cares if he's a lefty)
good for baseball pitchers/1b/of...bad for anything else
good for basketball players...throws a nice little element of surprise into the mix

Quote from: moshergc9 on August 13, 2007, 12:33:36 PMMy nephew is golf prodigy.
sounds like a future monarch :)

my 22 month old son seems to be a bit amphibian right now (a little charles shackleford [i think] humor for those of you who know anything about ncsu hoops)...he throws a ball with whichever hand he picks it up with...same with eating...and he swings his little bat lefty first and on follow through, leaves the bat on the other shoulder and swings righty the next time
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 13, 2007, 03:53:41 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 13, 2007, 12:33:36 PM

When do you know if a kid is left-handed or not?


when he starts picking his nose!!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 13, 2007, 05:16:36 PM
my mom was (is) left handed. When she was in school (she attended all girl's Catholic school her entire life). The nuns tied her left hand behind her back because being left handed was a sign of satan!

Maybe that explains PSBBG's grammar!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 13, 2007, 07:05:51 PM
Your calling my nephew lucifer?


Another reason for me to Despise CNU!

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 14, 2007, 08:56:46 AM
Quote from: narch on August 13, 2007, 02:39:04 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 13, 2007, 08:04:59 AMWhat is your take on the lefthanded QB, or lefthanded athlete?

good for all positions except center (if a qb is the best on the team, who cares if he's a lefty)
good for baseball pitchers/1b/of...bad for anything else
good for basketball players...throws a nice little element of surprise into the mix


Sports we are oppressed. I like the left handed QB wish there was more out there.  If the QB refuses to sign with the Baltimore Colts and then flees to Denver, I don't want that lefthanded QB.  :)

I knew a kid growing up right handed, but batted left, threw left (I believe also).  Its not uncommon for a righty to bat left because of switch hitting, but he couldn't bat right.  He did everything lefthanded in baseball because his dad was left handed.  I say thank you to him, because he brought somebody to the "darkside"  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 09:56:44 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 13, 2007, 07:05:51 PM
Your calling my nephew lucifer?


Another reason for me to Despise CNU!

Roll Pride!

You guys keep feeding Narch and Hasa - unbelievably funny!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 14, 2007, 11:35:42 AM
You guys keep busting on PSGGB.

A guy I knew had a malfunction with his T10 chute and did not recover from it. He bounced. All I could say was "better him than me"

Better you than me PSGGB. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 14, 2007, 12:21:31 PM
Corrected.  You're.

Who is scrimmaging this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 14, 2007, 01:49:05 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 14, 2007, 12:21:31 PM


Who is scrimmaging this year?

Averett is scrimmaging Emory & Henry.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 02:26:44 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on August 14, 2007, 11:35:42 AM
You guys keep busting on PSGGB.

A guy I knew had a malfunction with his T10 chute and did not recover from it. He bounced. All I could say was "better him than me"

Better you than me PSGGB. ;)

CNU always scrimmages HSC. I would assume that would be next week since CNU hasn't put on pads yet.

Nice story on CNU in the local paper today......some new guys hopefully can step in and contribute right away.....I hope the kid that was a Cincinnati Bearcat last year can make an impact.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 14, 2007, 02:35:29 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 02:26:44 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on August 14, 2007, 11:35:42 AM
You guys keep busting on PSGGB.

A guy I knew had a malfunction with his T10 chute and did not recover from it. He bounced. All I could say was "better him than me"

Better you than me PSGGB. ;)

CNU always scrimmages HSC. I would assume that would be next week since CNU hasn't put on pads yet.

Nice story on CNU in the local paper today......some new guys hopefully can step in and contribute right away.....I hope the kid that was a Cincinnati Bearcat last year can make an impact.

Is that story online anywhere? If so where is it, so I may read it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 02:42:26 PM
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-cnunotes,0,6604139.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-cnunotes,0,6604139.story)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 14, 2007, 02:53:41 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 02:42:26 PM
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-cnunotes,0,6604139.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-cnunotes,0,6604139.story)

     How come so many CNU starters from last year did not come back?  ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 14, 2007, 03:02:04 PM
PSSGB
There are malfunctions daily and burn ins probably quarterly. Those are the ones you hear about. But this one was in 1991.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 14, 2007, 03:33:38 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 02:26:44 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on August 14, 2007, 11:35:42 AM

CNU always scrimmages HSC. I would assume that would be next week since CNU hasn't put on pads yet.

Nice story on CNU in the local paper today......some new guys hopefully can step in and contribute right away.....I hope the kid that was a Cincinnati Bearcat last year can make an impact.

85, what happened to your Linebackers? You were banking on them for sure. Could it have been the LB coach leaving or what. And a 31 year old team captain. What kind of shape is he in?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 14, 2007, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 14, 2007, 08:56:46 AM
Quote from: narch on August 13, 2007, 02:39:04 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 13, 2007, 08:04:59 AMWhat is your take on the lefthanded QB, or lefthanded athlete?

good for all positions except center (if a qb is the best on the team, who cares if he's a lefty)
good for baseball pitchers/1b/of...bad for anything else
good for basketball players...throws a nice little element of surprise into the mix


Sports we are oppressed. I like the left handed QB wish there was more out there.  If the QB refuses to sign with the Baltimore Colts and then flees to Denver, I don't want that lefthanded QB.  :)

I knew a kid growing up right handed, but batted left, threw left (I believe also).  Its not uncommon for a righty to bat left because of switch hitting, but he couldn't bat right.  He did everything lefthanded in baseball because his dad was left handed.  I say thank you to him, because he brought somebody to the "darkside"  :D


  kickerdad

Younger son does everything left handed but kicked football with right foot.. Only kicker I ever saw who kicked spirals off a tee...Must be that left handed brain working  LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 05:03:59 PM
Sky/Kickerdad

Word is that the 3 LB and one DB that did not return because:

2 transfered to a school that had a major they wanted (imagine that- an athlete looking at the academic side of things - that is why I LOVE D3 sports) - I wish them well in life

1 is sitting out while attending CNU b/c he wants to get his grades up - a nice priority to have

1 is, well....to paraphrase Coach Kelchner - no longer with the team

I don't have names to attach to the various reasons - but there you have it.

I've heard CNU has a new O-lineman that is a beast - not sure if it is the same as the 31 yr old.

I've found quite a bit about the former Bearcat on the internet - a scouting website had him running a 4.4   40 in HS.

That's all I know - and all found off the internet - public knowledge kinda stuff.

The more I read, the less nervous I get about the season. I just hope the guys can pull it all together starting with week 1.

Factoid - CNU is 0-6 in week 1 and 5-1 in week 2


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 05:16:03 PM
A new question for everybody....

provide some insight and a prediction on how you think your team will fare in week 1. For those conference teams whose fans do not post on this board....well....we'll just not care about their games!!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 14, 2007, 05:19:13 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on August 14, 2007, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 14, 2007, 08:56:46 AM
Quote from: narch on August 13, 2007, 02:39:04 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 13, 2007, 08:04:59 AMWhat is your take on the lefthanded QB, or lefthanded athlete?

good for all positions except center (if a qb is the best on the team, who cares if he's a lefty)
good for baseball pitchers/1b/of...bad for anything else
good for basketball players...throws a nice little element of surprise into the mix


Sports we are oppressed. I like the left handed QB wish there was more out there.  If the QB refuses to sign with the Baltimore Colts and then flees to Denver, I don't want that lefthanded QB.  :)

I knew a kid growing up right handed, but batted left, threw left (I believe also).  Its not uncommon for a righty to bat left because of switch hitting, but he couldn't bat right.  He did everything lefthanded in baseball because his dad was left handed.  I say thank you to him, because he brought somebody to the "darkside"  :D


  kickerdad

Younger son does everything left handed but kicked football with right foot.. Only kicker I ever saw who kicked spirals off a tee...Must be that left handed brain working  LOL

Unbelievable, my youngest (the kicker) writes and eats with left hand, kicks with right foot and batted right handed when he used to play baseball. He throws with right hand and will knock the crap out you with his right.

I gave up long time ago trying to figure it all out. As long as they go straight and thru the uprights I don't care if he kicks it with his .........oops better watch it here.

Hey who did you guys replace Averett with this year. I was hoping to make another trip back to Dover and go to Dover Downs. I really enjoyed my trip there (Wesley Fans very nice and friendly. Didn't like the drive down and up on route 13. (never again).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 14, 2007, 05:21:42 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 05:16:03 PM
A new question for everybody....

provide some insight and a prediction on how you think your team will fare in week 1. For those conference teams whose fans do not post on this board....well....we'll just not care about their games!!  ;D

This one is easy......Averett vs Mount Union !!!!!!!!!!! Hands down Averett 1-0

I must be smoking crack............
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 14, 2007, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 14, 2007, 05:21:42 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 05:16:03 PM
A new question for everybody....

provide some insight and a prediction on how you think your team will fare in week 1. For those conference teams whose fans do not post on this board....well....we'll just not care about their games!!  ;D

This one is easy......Averett vs Mount Union !!!!!!!!!!! Hands down Averett 1-0

I must be smoking crack............

I would like to think that Averett will keep it a little more interesting than last year (64-7) but we will be playing in Alliance, Averett is rebuilding ....... maybe the stars will be lined up in Averett's favor or the entire Mount Union team including JV's will get the turkey squirts before the opening kickoff.

Smoking Crack again......I have to stop this.... how many days left till Sept 1?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 14, 2007, 05:27:45 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 14, 2007, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 14, 2007, 05:21:42 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 05:16:03 PM
A new question for everybody....

provide some insight and a prediction on how you think your team will fare in week 1. For those conference teams whose fans do not post on this board....well....we'll just not care about their games!!  ;D

This one is easy......Averett vs Mount Union !!!!!!!!!!! Hands down Averett 1-0

I must be smoking crack............

I would like to think that Averett will keep it a little more interesting than last year (64-7) but we will be playing in Alliance, Averett is rebuilding ....... maybe the stars will be lined up in Averett's favor or the entire Mount Union team including JV's will get the turkey squirts before the opening kickoff.

Smoking Crack again......I have to stop this.... how many days left till Sept 1?

I have been reading too many of 85's post... Starting to get crazy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 14, 2007, 05:38:26 PM
kickerdad

Wesley has only Huntingdon and Morrisville form last years non-conference schedule. Lost Waynesburg to their own conference commitment. BUT the first five games are all tough NC Wesleyan, DelVal, Widener, Montclair st. and Huntingdon
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 14, 2007, 06:47:23 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 05:03:59 PM
Sky/Kickerdad

Word is that the 3 LB and one DB that did not return because:

2 transfered to a school that had a major they wanted (imagine that- an athlete looking at the academic side of things - that is why I LOVE D3 sports) - I wish them well in life

1 is sitting out while attending CNU b/c he wants to get his grades up - a nice priority to have

1 is, well....to paraphrase Coach Kelchner - no longer with the team

I don't have names to attach to the various reasons - but there you have it.

I've heard CNU has a new O-lineman that is a beast - not sure if it is the same as the 31 yr old.

I've found quite a bit about the former Bearcat on the internet - a scouting website had him running a 4.4   40 in HS.

That's all I know - and all found off the internet - public knowledge kinda stuff.

The more I read, the less nervous I get about the season. I just hope the guys can pull it all together starting with week 1.

Factoid - CNU is 0-6 in week 1 and 5-1 in week 2




     85...thanks for the feedback. After giving it a little more thought, I guess that is pretty typical and not so unusual. Some leave to be closer to sugar britches, some leave for academic reasons, some are run off by coaches because they need to be.  Probably a few other reasons as well. Guess it just seemed odd that 3 were starting LB's.  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 14, 2007, 07:13:20 PM
Dang...I go away for a couple of weeks and it takes 2 hours to catch up on all the chatter on the board.

Narch, how are the boys looking down at the bottom of the hill?

ABN...you staying out of trouble?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 08:29:39 PM
dang Kickerdad....4 solo posts in 8 minutes......

robins eggs or black beauties?? Let's see how many old timers know what that means!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 14, 2007, 08:39:59 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 08:29:39 PM
dang Kickerdad....4 solo posts in 8 minutes......

robins eggs or black beauties?? Let's see how many old timers know what that means!

     Are they in the same category as yellow jackets? (NO...not the R-M kind) 8) NOPE....never heard of em!!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on August 14, 2007, 09:24:30 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 02:42:26 PM
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-cnunotes,0,6604139.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-cnunotes,0,6604139.story)

The kid from Cinci sounds like a monster.  I knew you guys would reload, but man...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on August 14, 2007, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 05:16:03 PM
A new question for everybody....

provide some insight and a prediction on how you think your team will fare in week 1. For those conference teams whose fans do not post on this board....well....we'll just not care about their games!!  ;D

hmmmm... 

Positives for Catholic: well... technically, SU is 0-2 vs. Catholic over the past two years.  (illegal player)  It's a road game, SU is picked last in the USASAC,  and CU has an outstanding QB.

Positives for SU:  We have a great punter. 

So this is a tough one for me. But I'm thinking SU has a slight chance, because there's limited film to go on.  If the hornets can sneak this one out, then they have a shot at winning 4 games for the season.  I am going to go crazy here and put down a "W" for the Hornets.  Mainly because this is a rare opportunity that it might be close...   

I will get back to realistic insight the second week...
   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on August 14, 2007, 10:05:39 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 08:29:39 PM
dang Kickerdad....4 solo posts in 8 minutes......

robins eggs or black beauties?? Let's see how many old timers know what that means!

Would those be the favorite "supplements" favored by Doc Gooden and Darryl Strawberry??? 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 14, 2007, 10:20:51 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 14, 2007, 05:19:13 PM...and will knock the crap out you with his right.
must be embarrassing to have a kicker knock the crap out of you...that'd be kinda like having papi outrun you :)

abnrgr - i think the team just reported on sunday, so i doubt they're doing enough to really know how they look

week 1 - monarchs vs. quackers....i'm gonna hold off a bit until i hear some camp reports
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 14, 2007, 11:04:43 PM
Come on Narch....I move kinda fast these days...but then again that's because I'm behind the throttle's of 450 hp and not running. ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 14, 2007, 11:42:24 PM
I can't make prediction in week 1.  GC doesn't play.  What I heard for week 2 was UNCP "is expecting 8500 fans" that Saturday.  I heard they have enough seating for a 1/3 of that.  The new complex is supposed to be nice, but they ran out of money to put enough bleachers in for all the fans.  That is just what I heard from someone I know from the area.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 15, 2007, 01:41:25 AM
narch and ADM

just skulking about. Maine for 2 weeks for....mission prep

Miss seeing your guys here. Pick up the pace. Thanks for update narchster
Bluto :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 15, 2007, 03:11:47 AM
Quote from: narch on August 14, 2007, 10:20:51 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 14, 2007, 05:19:13 PM...and will knock the crap out you with his right.
must be embarrassing to have a kicker knock the crap out of you...that'd be kinda like having papi outrun you :)

abnrgr - i think the team just reported on sunday, so i doubt they're doing enough to really know how they look

week 1 - monarchs vs. quackers....i'm gonna hold off a bit until i hear some camp reports

     HEY...HEY...HEY.... that's a low blow!! :o I was a 6' 220# kicker with a 300+ pound BP that liked to eat little KO return guys and the pork rind they were carrying for snack time.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 15, 2007, 08:29:16 AM
allsky7- 3AM post!  :o  :)

So are there any new words out of camp? I just know 85 guys showed up to camp at GC.  After that, I really don't know much, and I don't mind not knowing much. I want the anticipation to grow and grow until game day.  I know the guys are working hard and getting ready for the season. I really don't mind not knowing anything after that. Although I wondering what we team we are going to scrimmage with this year, I know we have always traveled, it would be nice if they stayed closer this year.  I might head over to the scrimmage.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on August 15, 2007, 08:57:38 AM
Hey CNU85 - nice logo, but didn't Christopher Newport have a hook for his left hand? 

http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Misc/misc081307.htm (http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Misc/misc081307.htm)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 15, 2007, 09:39:39 AM
Quote from: SU97 on August 15, 2007, 08:57:38 AM
Hey CNU85 - nice logo, but didn't Christopher Newport have a hook for his left hand? 

http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Misc/misc081307.htm (http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Misc/misc081307.htm)


I am really suprised that Diageo or Burger King hasn't come after CNU because of thier mascot.

Captain Morgan (Thank you Diageo)

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F1%2F1a%2FCaptain_morgan.gif&hash=d8c6a4d0b73af780ba6be7bdc95443d103908cdc)

The King(Thank you Burger King)
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cinematical.com%2Fmedia%2F2006%2F07%2Fburger-king-07112006.jpg&hash=460022d479d62165a859eb7d8ec53241ef9b77af)

CNU Captain

(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fadmissions.cnu.edu%2Fimages%2Fcapchris.jpg&hash=559c00ce68230aca1a7bf85648c7b1b144f1c74a)

If anyone has seen the captain in person, there are strong similarities among the 3.  I like it though, I don't really think there is anything wrong with the mascot, I just thought it was funny to point it out.  If anything, I believe The King came after CNU's mascot.

Nice logo though, big improvement and very professional.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 15, 2007, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: narch on August 14, 2007, 10:20:51 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 14, 2007, 05:19:13 PM...and will knock the crap out you with his right.
must be embarrassing to have a kicker knock the crap out of you...that'd be kinda like having papi outrun you :)

abnrgr - i think the team just reported on sunday, so i doubt they're doing enough to really know how they look

week 1 - monarchs vs. quackers....i'm gonna hold off a bit until i hear some camp reports

Not as embarrassing as getting you butt kicked by the water girl from the other team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 15, 2007, 01:23:48 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 15, 2007, 11:44:47 AMNot as embarrassing as getting you butt kicked by the water girl from the other team.

true...did this happen to someone you know?

being an afficianado of sports logos (and someone who has dabbled in sports logo design), i'll reserve judgement on the new cnu logo until i see a higher resolution image, but my first thought was "meh" - it appears to be more illustration than logo...there is SO MUCH that could be done from an imagery standpoint with the name captains - a really good logo should be iconic and strong...i don't get that from this logo - i would have thought that a school with such a big-time athletic program would seek a professional designer with previous collegiate athletic branding experience
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 15, 2007, 01:27:36 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 15, 2007, 08:29:16 AMSo are there any new words out of camp? I just know 85 guys showed up to camp at GC. 

is that 85 total or 85 new?  if it's 85 total that's a LOW number around these parts - i think every usasac team is working with 100+, and honestly, i think you've got to have big numbers to be competetive in this conference and d3 football in general...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 15, 2007, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: narch on August 15, 2007, 01:27:36 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 15, 2007, 08:29:16 AMSo are there any new words out of camp? I just know 85 guys showed up to camp at GC. 

is that 85 total or 85 new?  if it's 85 total that's a LOW number around these parts - i think every usasac team is working with 100+, and honestly, i think you've got to have big numbers to be competetive in this conference and d3 football in general...

I believe that is 85 total, the greensboro website has been down all day (well slow) the numbers came off of there.  Having 85 total i really don't think is all that uncommon for Greensboro that makes up about 10% of the schools enrollment numbers (using d3football.com) I think that is aligns well with the rest of the conference considering the size of the schools in the USASouth. IMO
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 15, 2007, 05:54:22 PM
Quote from: SU97 on August 15, 2007, 08:57:38 AM
Hey CNU85 - nice logo, but didn't Christopher Newport have a hook for his left hand? 

http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Misc/misc081307.htm (http://athletics.cnu.edu/Sports/Misc/misc081307.htm)


That was Captain Hook.....but there are similarities between Captain Hook and the CNU Captain...they both play with Tinkerbells and Lost Boys!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 15, 2007, 05:55:38 PM
Quote from: narch on August 15, 2007, 01:23:48 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 15, 2007, 11:44:47 AMNot as embarrassing as getting you butt kicked by the water girl from the other team.

true...did this happen to someone you know?

being an afficianado of sports logos (and someone who has dabbled in sports logo design), i'll reserve judgement on the new cnu logo until i see a higher resolution image, but my first thought was "meh" - it appears to be more illustration than logo...there is SO MUCH that could be done from an imagery standpoint with the name captains - a really good logo should be iconic and strong...i don't get that from this logo - i would have thought that a school with such a big-time athletic program would seek a professional designer with previous collegiate athletic branding experience

I agree NArch....my initial reaction was.....ok.....maybe it'll grow on me....I think I need to see center court of the Freeman center to appreciate it....and you all know how I feel about the mascot that walks around at games!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 15, 2007, 05:57:37 PM
Quote from: SU97 on August 14, 2007, 09:24:30 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 14, 2007, 02:42:26 PM
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-cnunotes,0,6604139.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-cnunotes,0,6604139.story)

The kid from Cinci sounds like a monster.  I knew you guys would reload, but man...

We'll see how it plays out once the season kicks off.....you never know if there is a reason after spring drills and a coaching change that half the scholarship was yanked
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 15, 2007, 06:19:03 PM
Quote from: narch on August 15, 2007, 01:23:48 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 15, 2007, 11:44:47 AMNot as embarrassing as getting you butt kicked by the water girl from the other team.

true...did this happen to someone you know?

being an afficianado of sports logos (and someone who has dabbled in sports logo design), i'll reserve judgement on the new cnu logo until i see a higher resolution image, but my first thought was "meh" - it appears to be more illustration than logo...there is SO MUCH that could be done from an imagery standpoint with the name captains - a really good logo should be iconic and strong...i don't get that from this logo - i would have thought that a school with such a big-time athletic program would seek a professional designer with previous collegiate athletic branding experience

At the professional level I might agree for it to be strong as you said, but from the college standpoint, I think it should be simple and clear.  Now I am not saying a incoming freshman is going to decide on a school based on a mascot (you never know though), I am saying the admissions office needs to be able to wear something that not only represents the school but doesn't over power power the potential student.  Something anybody could walk around and anybody could notice,  the words need to be clear and the logo not overpowering.  I think CNU's logo matches well with what i expect out of a college logo. (It does remind me of the Colonial Penn Insurance logo, not sure why, but it does.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 15, 2007, 06:50:49 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 15, 2007, 02:32:12 PM
Quote from: narch on August 15, 2007, 01:27:36 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 15, 2007, 08:29:16 AMSo are there any new words out of camp? I just know 85 guys showed up to camp at GC. 

is that 85 total or 85 new?  if it's 85 total that's a LOW number around these parts - i think every usasac team is working with 100+, and honestly, i think you've got to have big numbers to be competetive in this conference and d3 football in general...
I believe that is 85 total, the greensboro website has been down all day (well slow) the numbers came off of there.  Having 85 total i really don't think is all that uncommon for Greensboro that makes up about 10% of the schools enrollment numbers (using d3football.com) I think that is aligns well with the rest of the conference considering the size of the schools in the USASouth. IMO
Keep in mind, that's 20% of your male enrolment.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 15, 2007, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 15, 2007, 06:19:03 PMI think it should be simple and clear. 

and those are exactly 2 things that it is NOT...look at all the detail and thin lines, and that detail is very hard to see at a small size (the way it will be displayed on the web), and don't even THINK about embroidering that thing...no offense, the more i look at it, the more i dislike that logo...and i would say the same if i were a cnu fan...it's just poorly designed
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 15, 2007, 09:17:07 PM
I still like it, I think it is an improvement from what they had before and it makes more sense now too.  There is an actual captain on the the logo.  I bet it is just the the format that it is in that is making it look the way it does, IMO
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on August 15, 2007, 09:18:08 PM
Quote from: narch on August 15, 2007, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 15, 2007, 06:19:03 PMI think it should be simple and clear. 

and those are exactly 2 things that it is NOT...look at all the detail and thin lines, and that detail is very hard to see at a small size (the way it will be displayed on the web), and don't even THINK about embroidering that thing...no offense, the more i look at it, the more i dislike that logo...and i would say the same if i were a cnu fan...it's just poorly designed

AND... NO HOOK!    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 15, 2007, 10:34:37 PM
It looks like a Shoneys add...Or maybe its the Gordan Fishstick man.

Its a stepback in the mascot department.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on August 16, 2007, 07:44:23 AM
Whats up everyone. Its been a while since i have been able to post, we have been getting ready for our first game. My first as a varsity coach with a big responsibility.
      I think 80 kids is an ok number for a team, its not the best numbers for college football but if they all can play, then hey, it does the job.
     CNU's logo is to hard to identify. I looked online at the logo, and i really personally think they could have come up with a different logo. You cant have that much detail as a logo for all of your school.
       NARCH whats the word from camp yet, how the boys looking? Hopefully good.
anyways, ill be back on here soon after we beat charlotte catholic tomm night
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 16, 2007, 10:40:27 AM
The logo would have been easier had Christopher Newport been a pirate rather than a good guy captain. If he was a pirate kinda captain the logo could have had him in the forefront with a bloody knife in his mouth, a woman he stole off another ship under his arms and a sailing vessel in the background on fire and sinking with the name of the boat visible..."Private Schools"

oh man...I'm cracking myself up on that one!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 16, 2007, 11:29:41 AM
Texas!!! I just booked a trip to the CNU/UMHB game Sept 8!! This is going to be a blast!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 16, 2007, 11:55:19 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 16, 2007, 11:29:41 AM
Texas!!! I just booked a trip to the CNU/UMHB game Sept 8!! This is going to eb a blast!!
Good for you!  Now that's a nice road trip to get the season going. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 16, 2007, 01:07:22 PM
yes indeed...every Saturday in September includes a CNU football game for me!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 16, 2007, 02:10:36 PM
85...that was very funny...

will the fish stick dude replace the three sails or be used along with them?

very little camp news to report other than it's hotter than hades in the 'ville and everyone they expected back is in camp

there are a couple of newcombers that have impressed, from what i hear:

- a dl/lb that is apparently pretty nasty...should make an impact as a frosh

- a rb that looks like he might be able to take some of the load off hill

- two really good kickers (i know, i know...they're kickers, but that's a big void the monarchs need to fill)...be sure to watch out for those right hooks though, eh kickerdad :)

- a wr that has impressed in limited drills

- a couple of ol that will push returners and possibly play a lot
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 16, 2007, 02:47:07 PM
Quote from: narch on August 16, 2007, 02:10:36 PM
85...that was very funny...

will the fish stick dude replace the three sails or be used along with them?

very little camp news to report other than it's hotter than hades in the 'ville and everyone they expected back is in camp

there are a couple of newcombers that have impressed, from what i hear:

- a dl/lb that is apparently pretty nasty...should make an impact as a frosh

- a rb that looks like he might be able to take some of the load off hill

- two really good kickers (i know, i know...they're kickers, but that's a big void the monarchs need to fill)...be sure to watch out for those right hooks though, eh kickerdad :)

- a wr that has impressed in limited drills

- a couple of ol that will push returners and possibly play a lot

Hey Allsky7,

They are picking on kickers again. They tend to bad mouth and make fun of kickers until they win the game by 1 point in the last 2 seconds. Then they become the  best friend of everyone on the team and get taken to dinner (steak) and handed all the drinks they want.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 16, 2007, 04:10:14 PM
This is the latest news clip from Murvul

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070816/SPORTS/70816006 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070816/SPORTS/70816006)

Football tab from the paper is suppossed to move some new content including one on one with Ierulli, and a preview of scrimmage at Legion Field on Aug. 22. Should be up on web late Friday.

The freshmen qb from Farragut has looked pretty good. No idea if he's the leading No. 3 candidate or not but he's got the best size of any MC quarterback in a few seasons at 6-3 he can actually see over the line which was a problem with Price despite his other gifts. Wall still is the sharpest back there but he's worked with the receivers and backs all spring and on their own this summer. May be interesting to see who has the starting job after the Birmingham Southern scrimmage next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 16, 2007, 05:33:35 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 16, 2007, 02:47:07 PM
Quote from: narch on August 16, 2007, 02:10:36 PM
85...that was very funny...

will the fish stick dude replace the three sails or be used along with them?

very little camp news to report other than it's hotter than hades in the 'ville and everyone they expected back is in camp

there are a couple of newcombers that have impressed, from what i hear:

- a dl/lb that is apparently pretty nasty...should make an impact as a frosh

- a rb that looks like he might be able to take some of the load off hill

- two really good kickers (i know, i know...they're kickers, but that's a big void the monarchs need to fill)...be sure to watch out for those right hooks though, eh kickerdad :)

- a wr that has impressed in limited drills

- a couple of ol that will push returners and possibly play a lot

Hey Allsky7,

They are picking on kickers again. They tend to bad mouth and make fun of kickers until they win the game by 1 point in the last 2 seconds. Then they become the  best friend of everyone on the team and get taken to dinner (steak) and handed all the drinks they want.

     Yep, it's an isolated world being a kicker sometimes. Everybody's friend or everybody's goat. Sometimes, you can be both in a short period of time. But man those kickoff return guys sure are tasty.  :D And how on earth can they possibly live down the fact they got cold cocked by a kicker!! I bet their own mother won't even speak to them.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 16, 2007, 08:51:53 PM
CNU 85... I wasnt taking jabs.  I just thought the premier team in our league could do a little better than that.

The mascot thing is kindov wierd this year at gc.  The uni has changed several times since I played.  When football started they got rid of the old mascot (the hornets)...Then the jersey change to the new style, now we are in all white (including white helmets).  Maybe the white helmets will help with the heat in the summer?

Hopefully the changes and colors bring some more w's.


Allsky,
Kickers are lame.  I have never seen a kicker lay anybody out.

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 16, 2007, 09:10:47 PM
Mosh - i didn't take your comments as jabs....all is cool
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 16, 2007, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 16, 2007, 08:51:53 PM
CNU 85... I wasnt taking jabs.  I just thought the premier team in our league could do a little better than that.

The mascot thing is kindov wierd this year at gc.  The uni has changed several times since I played.  When football started they got rid of the old mascot (the hornets)...Then the jersey change to the new style, now we are in all white (including white helmets).  Maybe the white helmets will help with the heat in the summer?

Hopefully the changes and colors bring some more w's.


Allsky,
Kickers are lame.  I have never seen a kicker lay anybody out.

Roll Pride!

     Here's one that ain't lame sir!!  Bet at 79 he can still whoop you, me, and the starting Pride linebacker corp ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Blanda

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 17, 2007, 05:32:38 AM
     Great article on Maryville's Rommel Hightower. As I have stated previously, this kid can play.

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?id=2038&sportNameID=3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 17, 2007, 08:58:37 PM
hey Narch, in reference to the message you sent me...how am I doing?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 17, 2007, 10:36:06 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 17, 2007, 08:58:37 PM
hey Narch, in reference to the message you sent me...how am I doing?
not bad, not bad at all...i can't WAIT for football season to start...i was coming home from a little get-together tonight and saw the lights on at the local high school football field and i'm starting to feel it a little...football is in the air boys-n-girls...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 17, 2007, 10:38:38 PM
yeah...i'm pumped too.....i'm a vikings fan and at least tonight they look good...3 td on defense.....love it....plus i bought season tickets for cnu this week and then dished out for a spot on the plane with the team for the umhb trip.......love it!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 17, 2007, 10:52:33 PM
I walked across the parade field the other day after the grass had been cut and it was about 105 degrees, all I could smell was two-a-days!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 17, 2007, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on August 17, 2007, 10:52:33 PM
I walked across the parade field the other day after the grass had been cut and it was about 105 degrees, all I could smell was two-a-days!!!

fresh grass or vomit???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 18, 2007, 05:56:26 AM
Probably a little of both mixed together  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 18, 2007, 11:56:25 AM
i only played until 9th grade....but man, I do remember the long practices in the heat. I played in a league on an Air Force base. We had a good team. I remember when practice was over and we were drained.....I would wait for about 30 minute to "rest". Then I'd hop on my bike and ride the 4 miles home off base........

then I remember the practice that ended with busted bones and a trip to the hospital.....at least my mom came to get me and I didn't have to ride my bike that day.....or any other day after that!!   ;D

I did make a short attempt to hook on with my high school team my junior year......that didn't last long.....2 years prior we were state champs, we had 2 Parade All-Americans.....serious stuff.....After being out for a few years, I couldn't kep up with the speed. We ran a wishbone and our qb and RBs also set a national record in the 4x100 relay. all 4 went to d1 schools on scholarship - 1 rb had a track scholarship to UCLA, 1 went to VMI, one to Ohio State and one to Penn State......The OSU guy played 13 years in the NFL

oh well....a small trip down memory lane......time to go take out the trash or someting mundane.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 18, 2007, 11:57:09 AM
and it all started with papi's comment about the smell of fresh grass and vomit
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 19, 2007, 12:33:00 PM
I have one spot left open for tonight Yahoo fantasy football draft league devoted to D3 fans. One guy dropped out. We have some Bridgewater fans, SU, Wesley, Mount Un, UW Oshkosh, CNU, and Greensboro. Here is the information you will need to join. Only one spot is left so it maybe full  when you try to register. Please name your team after the D3 team you cheer for. Good Luck

League ID#: 9077
League Name: FANS OF DIVISION 3 FOOTBALL
Password: usasouth
Draft Time: Sun Aug 19 7:00pm EDT 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 20, 2007, 02:33:05 PM
pat & crew...great job (again) on the kickoff coverage...fantastic stuff

if you haven't purchased your copy yet, it's worth every penny of the price...go get it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 20, 2007, 07:11:48 PM
I couldn't tell from Saturday's scrimmage if the Scots defense is suffering this year or if the offense is so good with 9 back that it just made the defense look that way.

This far in and nobody's quit - has to be a record. The roster actually went up one as trasnfer Patrick Slay (corner) arrived Friday. (younger brother of UT basketballer Ron Slay).

Any word on the kicking situation at Methodist yet?


http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070819/SPORTS/70818023&SearchID=73290868916735 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070819/SPORTS/70818023&SearchID=73290868916735)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on August 21, 2007, 11:21:24 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on August 16, 2007, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 16, 2007, 08:51:53 PM
CNU 85... I wasnt taking jabs.  I just thought the premier team in our league could do a little better than that.

The mascot thing is kindov wierd this year at gc.  The uni has changed several times since I played.  When football started they got rid of the old mascot (the hornets)...Then the jersey change to the new style, now we are in all white (including white helmets).  Maybe the white helmets will help with the heat in the summer?

Hopefully the changes and colors bring some more w's.


Allsky,
Kickers are lame.  I have never seen a kicker lay anybody out.

Roll Pride!

     Here's one that ain't lame sir!!  Bet at 79 he can still whoop you, me, and the starting Pride linebacker corp ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Blanda




My question to you is how do figure this quote. The Pride didnt loose a single guy on defense this past year so I am going to say because how experenced they are going to be one of the top defenses in the USA South
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 21, 2007, 11:57:30 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on August 21, 2007, 11:21:24 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on August 16, 2007, 09:36:26 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 16, 2007, 08:51:53 PM
CNU 85... I wasnt taking jabs.  I just thought the premier team in our league could do a little better than that.

The mascot thing is kindov wierd this year at gc.  The uni has changed several times since I played.  When football started they got rid of the old mascot (the hornets)...Then the jersey change to the new style, now we are in all white (including white helmets).  Maybe the white helmets will help with the heat in the summer?

Hopefully the changes and colors bring some more w's.


Allsky,
Kickers are lame.  I have never seen a kicker lay anybody out.

Roll Pride!

     Here's one that ain't lame sir!!  Bet at 79 he can still whoop you, me, and the starting Pride linebacker corp ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Blanda




My question to you is how do figure this quote. The Pride didnt loose a single guy on defense this past year so I am going to say because how experenced they are going to be one of the top defenses in the USA South

     Just some friendly banter with mosh as he is a GC fan. No offense intended to the GC lb's. (pun intended  :D) I'm sure they are a fine bunch.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 21, 2007, 12:49:09 PM
I did throw the first stone.

Olive Branch??  Kickers are ok when they win games for the good team.

I drove by a Pride practice to check out the new helmets.  They look pretty sharp.  Im curious if they will change the helmet logo??

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 21, 2007, 01:33:03 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 21, 2007, 12:49:09 PM
I did throw the first stone.

Olive Branch??  Kickers are ok when they win games for the good team.

I drove by a Pride practice to check out the new helmets.  They look pretty sharp.  Im curious if they will change the helmet logo??

Roll Pride

     Olive branch accepted. (but not needed)  All in good fun.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 21, 2007, 09:48:39 PM
Thanks. Taken care of.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on August 21, 2007, 11:08:34 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 21, 2007, 09:48:39 PM
Thanks. Taken care of.

First Class!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 22, 2007, 03:40:10 AM
Greensborosports.com has some interviews with Local coaches in the triad.

Hasonova,

Guilford picked up a good qb in Bennett Johnson, When I was at Northern Nash we  played Beddingfield in the endowment game.  He and the kid from Eastern Randolph both remind me of flutie.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 22, 2007, 09:08:39 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 22, 2007, 03:40:10 AM
Greensborosports.com has some interviews with Local coaches in the triad.

Hasonova,

Guilford picked up a good qb in Bennett Johnson, When I was at Northern Nash we  played Beddingfield in the endowment game.  He and the kid from Eastern Randolph both remind me of flutie.
Thanks for the information, Mosh.  A comparison to Doug Flutie is always welcome!  I have to think he'll sit at QB mostly this year and next.  I can't see anyone prying the QB duties from Vogelbach unless there is an injury or a mop-up roll.  If he's a good athlete, sometimes he can convert to another slot until he's needed at QB.  Guilford has published a roster and outlook in the attached link and I see his name.  The Quakers play three USASAC teams, so the link may be of some interest on this board.   The 101 players I count on the roster are the highest number I remember.  Thankfully, I don't have long to wait - 10 days and counting!  Thanks again and good luck!

http://www.guilford.edu/athletics/football/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 22, 2007, 11:48:29 AM
Quote from: batteredbard on August 20, 2007, 07:11:48 PM
I couldn't tell from Saturday's scrimmage if the Scots defense is suffering this year or if the offense is so good with 9 back that it just made the defense look that way.

This far in and nobody's quit - has to be a record. The roster actually went up one as trasnfer Patrick Slay (corner) arrived Friday. (younger brother of UT basketballer Ron Slay).

Any word on the kicking situation at Methodist yet?


http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070819/SPORTS/70818023&SearchID=73290868916735 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070819/SPORTS/70818023&SearchID=73290868916735)

The offense is pretty good this year.  With 9 starters coming back off an already good offense it is to be expected.  The defense is replacing a few players so they are going to be working them out this preseason.  I think it is promising to see the offense clicking so soon especially with a new QB.  The defense will step up since their coordinator is the head coach and he will make sure of that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on August 22, 2007, 02:15:52 PM
NARCH- hey whats up man. How is Methodist looking this year i haven't really been able to check on them ive been busy with our team i just havent been able to talk to anyone.

Mosher- Hey man sorry the job didnt work out, we still are without a DC though, but no history position man. Maybe next year cuz i heard someone was leaving from here in that department, so prolly next year. Good luck this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 22, 2007, 02:37:39 PM
All right folks.....I just couldn't hold off any longer.

The games for Week 1 are posted on the USA South's pick-em board.

I invite everyone here to participate. Last year, the debut year, we had about a dozen regular participants. I would like to get at least that many again this season.

You don't have to "sign up" per se, just post your picks for the first week, and I'll know you're in. Thanks!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on August 22, 2007, 06:54:56 PM
With the season right around the corner I would like everyone's opinion on who has the best home field advantage or best atmosphere in the conf. Also, do you believe that there are any real home field advantages in the conf. I have not had the opportunity to see everyone's playing fields, yet the one's I have had the opportunity to see they all seem to have nice facilties.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 22, 2007, 07:46:35 PM
Quote from: Highlander on August 22, 2007, 06:54:56 PM
With the season right around the corner I would like everyone's opinion on who has the best home field advantage or best atmosphere in the conf. Also, do you believe that there are any real home field advantages in the conf. I have not had the opportunity to see everyone's playing fields, yet the one's I have had the opportunity to see they all seem to have nice facilties.

I think PSBBG has some stats on that....I sorta remember the conversation awhile ago....maybe NArch had the stats....or more likely maybe PSBBG and Narch argued about it....

oh...no matter what anyone says....CNU has best homefield advantage.....no support to my comment other than it's because I say so!!

back to my second beer ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 22, 2007, 08:01:41 PM
Interesting story about 59 year old guy playing D3 football. 

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-59-year-oldlinebacker&prov=ap&type=lgns
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 22, 2007, 08:12:57 PM
Quote from: Highlander on August 22, 2007, 06:54:56 PM
With the season right around the corner I would like everyone's opinion on who has the best home field advantage or best atmosphere in the conf. Also, do you believe that there are any real home field advantages in the conf. I have not had the opportunity to see everyone's playing fields, yet the one's I have had the opportunity to see they all seem to have nice facilties.

CNU hasn't been beated at home by a USA South opponent since their third game ever, which was waaaay back in 2001. That's what, a streak of 20+ games? I think that pretty much seals the deal that they have the best home-field advantage.

And their facilities are pretty sweet, too!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 22, 2007, 08:20:05 PM
Yeah...what Ryan said!!! Nobody has beated us at home in a long time!!!

Sorry Ryan....I'm opening the third beer!! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 22, 2007, 09:26:57 PM
I would have to say that CNU followed by Ferrum has the best home field advantage.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 22, 2007, 09:36:55 PM
Respectfully disagree,

  Nothing like the home crowd in greensboro 5,000 strong!

Cant beat it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 22, 2007, 09:44:40 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 22, 2007, 09:36:55 PM
Respectfully disagree,

  Nothing like the home crowd in greensboro 5,000 strong!

Cant beat it!

Now that's funny!!! 5,000
another +1 for Mosh!!

....official attendence for GC last year was 5,042......for 5 games!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 22, 2007, 11:22:44 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on August 22, 2007, 08:01:41 PM
Interesting story about 59 year old guy playing D3 football. 

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-59-year-oldlinebacker&prov=ap&type=lgns

that's a great story, and inspirational and all that...but part of me thinks it gives people the idea that the competition isn't strong in d3 - some will certainly say "if a 59 year old dude can make a d3 team, d3 must not be that good..." - it's an incorrect assumption, but no doubt many who aren't in the know will make that assumption

i don't think i'd want to challenge that guy in any type of physical activity, though, and i'm sure there are 20 year old d3 players that can't hang with him...he runs a 5.0 flat at 59!...that's twice as fast as papi, and four times as fast as me :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 23, 2007, 04:16:49 AM
Narch, it's hard to run fast and not spill my beer  ;D

Mosh, I actually think my favorite place to play other than at home was Greensboro.  Heck, I remember one year you guys even had a fireworks show to celebrate our victory.  We actually played a night game, I think it was GC's homecoming.  My girlfriend at the time actually sat on the GC side with a Methodist shirt and not one person said anything to her. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 23, 2007, 04:55:23 AM
Quote from: narch on August 22, 2007, 11:22:44 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on August 22, 2007, 08:01:41 PM
Interesting story about 59 year old guy playing D3 football. 

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=ap-59-year-oldlinebacker&prov=ap&type=lgns

that's a great story, and inspirational and all that...but part of me thinks it gives people the idea that the competition isn't strong in d3 - some will certainly say "if a 59 year old dude can make a d3 team, d3 must not be that good..." - it's an incorrect assumption, but no doubt many who aren't in the know will make that assumption

i don't think i'd want to challenge that guy in any type of physical activity, though, and i'm sure there are 20 year old d3 players that can't hang with him...he runs a 5.0 flat at 59!...that's twice as fast as papi, and four times as fast as me :)

     He will probably soon find out about the caliber of D3  but did you see the guns on that dude?!?! He's built like a BSH!!  :o I'm sure the reality of being 59 will soon set in. I am 44 and in pretty good shape. I can't even imagine trying something like that....even at my youthful age.  :D I can still mash a softball pretty well though.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 23, 2007, 11:04:13 AM
Mosh,

In three years nobody from Greensboro has ever purchased Kickoff. (Or at least, nobody has ever selected Greensboro as their favorite team when purchasing.)

Where's the love, man? Did we do something to Greensboro? :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 23, 2007, 11:31:06 AM
admiral papi,   

  you were the slow qb right?  (rcknetti being the slickster)...I remember playing you my freshman year (2000).  You were a very good decision maker from what I remember.  I also remember getting layed out on punt coverage.  So maybe I saw fireworks myself. 

Pat,

  No hard feelings, I just have never purchased one.  In the past I have just looked at teams websites and made my own conclusions.  Maybe I should make the purchase this year to support the forum. 

Roll Pride!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 23, 2007, 01:10:00 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 23, 2007, 11:31:06 AM
admiral papi,   

you were the slow qb right? 
i love it :)

was it mcol51 that got the whole papi=slow thing going, or was that me?

by the way, if the comparison is to roncketti, there aren't a lot of qb's in the country, let alone the usasac, who are going to compare favorably...the rocket could run
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 23, 2007, 01:54:24 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 23, 2007, 11:04:13 AM
Mosh,

In three years nobody from Greensboro has ever purchased Kickoff. (Or at least, nobody has ever selected Greensboro as their favorite team when purchasing.)

Where's the love, man? Did we do something to Greensboro? :)

      Now that's a sales tactic!!  :o I felt so guilty that I went and signed up on the spot. Pat, glad your aren't selling cars or houses.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 23, 2007, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: Highlander on August 22, 2007, 06:54:56 PM
With the season right around the corner I would like everyone's opinion on who has the best home field advantage or best atmosphere in the conf. Also, do you believe that there are any real home field advantages in the conf. I have not had the opportunity to see everyone's playing fields, yet the one's I have had the opportunity to see they all seem to have nice facilties.

I will break this down a couple of ways

Best Home Team Advantage Sites

1. CNU
2. Maryville
3. Ferrum
4. Methodist (visitors have to sit on home side and visiting team is on the other side listening to the crickets) Visiting fans get drowned out
5. Shenandoah (if that stadium is full, the noise level would be deafing)
6. Greensboro (only because of the potential size, only time I have been there there was less than 300 in the home stands and it was their homecoming)
7. NCWC (city owed stadium and if the visitors are good and bring a crowd they can offset the home crowd)
8. Averett (my team, but very little support)

Outstanding Facilities

1. CNU
2. Maryville (no bathroom or porta johns on visitor side but still a very nice facility and great field).
3. NCWC (bathrooms on both sides as well as food)
4. Ferrum (only thing I disliked about Ferrum is you have to drive to the end of the world and then you have to take a left. Their field wasn't that great between the 20 and goal line and you had to walk a ways to go to the bathrooms)
5. Methodist (really only complaint here is there are no visitor seats. Nice field, concessions could be more and porta johns are a hike but still a nice place.
6. Greensboro (sorry it was too cold to go looking for concessions, kickers haven't got any room on side line to practice and field appeared to be in bad shape to be a city owned/supported site. Bathrooms too small.
7. Shenandoah  (nice stadium, just needs concessions on visitor side. If you want to tailgate you have to set up in the hay field. The open end of the stadium next to the interstate is a distraction)
8. Averett (my team.........field is in terrible shape, heard through the grapevine they didn't sow seed until this month. keep it too wet, not really a stadium, they have a hill to set up chairs and some protable bleachers. Visitors are too far from field. Visiting team has to walk through the parking lot to get to dressing rooms. This was a problem during one game last year as some of the players wanted to be smart mouth with people in the parking lot. Needs more concessions. They have a few but the choices are few and none. They are always running out of drinks.

Oh well, I am sure this will spark some conversation and hate mail. But thats how I vote.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 23, 2007, 02:30:20 PM
no hate mail here. I've only been to AU and SU. The last time I was at SU the visitors met in a tent at halftime. I think that has changed. Not much to say about AU....the weather was nice when I was there, so it was a good day for sitting along the banks, soaking up the warm sun. Maybe I'll make a few more conference away games in the coming years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 23, 2007, 03:03:48 PM
Mosh, I was definitely the slow one when comparing myself and Rocket.  Rocket could probably finish the 40 and have a cold beer before I got to the finish line.  Probably because I'd be drinking the cold beer before I started  ;)

Narch. . .I thought you'd get a crack out of that statement.  Besides...I was sneaky quick HAHA!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on August 23, 2007, 03:50:36 PM
Ask Vick how being a fast QB worked out! He couldn't play dead in a cowboy movie. When it comes down to it you still have to be able to step up and make the throw.  I think Parks is going to step up and have a great year, and I expect MU to go at least 7-3. That may be wishful thinking, but I just have a good feeling about this year.

Papi, you aren't as slow as you say. I watched plenty of film of you picking up big yards with your legs and then finishing off the run by running over some poor DB.  You did get the beer part right, though.  I've also witnessed that first hand with you.  I'll never forget that weekend with Scuba in Wilmington.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 23, 2007, 04:24:51 PM
Is it Sept 1st yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 23, 2007, 04:28:18 PM
It was a night for the books, that's for sure Rocket!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 23, 2007, 04:31:18 PM
Kicker dad.
Here's a note to add that may raise or lower Maryville for visitors this season.

True being a long, long, long bus ride can add to its advantages as a home field in conference play.

But this year, and I'm sure Coach Sypult will do back flips to hear it, the administration had tress planted behind the far end zone (away from main gate and campus). The traditional tail gate area in the field beyond is now screened by these trees so alums who have made a drive-in type presence in the back of the pick ups and in tents etc back there will have to find a new home or invest in a new chain saw.

And weird enough it had nothing to do with attendance figures either. Word from the administration is that the insurance review made a note of it saying that folks leaving the field pulled out directly on to a busy city road and that was a concern. (Where as if they do the same thing in the campus parking lot and have to make an extra turn or two on a crowded campus post game its not a concern?)

Anyway 'the moonshine brigade" as Sypult once called them looks to be out of action.

And sadly, like most D3 schools, the stadium is probably only third or fourth best in the city. Maryville, Alcoa and arguably with the new press box remodel William Blount all have larger and more crowd friendly stadiums that are always at capacity or beyond  ... and have lights!(why is that such a rarity in D3 football? (baseball and soccer have lights at MC but not football)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 23, 2007, 04:52:50 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on August 23, 2007, 04:31:18 PM
Kicker dad.
Here's a note to add that may raise or lower Maryville for visitors this season.

True being a long, long, long bus ride can add to its advantages as a home field in conference play.

But this year, and I'm sure Coach Sypult will do back flips to hear it, the administration had tress planted behind the far end zone (away from main gate and campus). The traditional tail gate area in the field beyond is now screened by these trees so alums who have made a drive-in type presence in the back of the pick ups and in tents etc back there will have to find a new home or invest in a new chain saw.

And weird enough it had nothing to do with attendance figures either. Word from the administration is that the insurance review made a note of it saying that folks leaving the field pulled out directly on to a busy city road and that was a concern. (Where as if they do the same thing in the campus parking lot and have to make an extra turn or two on a crowded campus post game its not a concern?)

Anyway 'the moonshine brigade" as Sypult once called them looks to be out of action.

And sadly, like most D3 schools, the stadium is probably only third or fourth best in the city. Maryville, Alcoa and arguably with the new press box remodel William Blount all have larger and more crowd friendly stadiums that are always at capacity or beyond  ... and have lights!(why is that such a rarity in D3 football? (baseball and soccer have lights at MC but not football)


You refer to Maryville (Tenn) but refer to Methodist's Coach. was there a coaching change I missed during these past few weeks of 100 plus temp or what.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 23, 2007, 05:14:33 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on August 23, 2007, 04:31:18 PM
Kicker dad.
Here's a note to add that may raise or lower Maryville for visitors this season.

True being a long, long, long bus ride can add to its advantages as a home field in conference play.

But this year, and I'm sure Coach Sypult will do back flips to hear it, the administration had tress planted behind the far end zone (away from main gate and campus). The traditional tail gate area in the field beyond is now screened by these trees so alums who have made a drive-in type presence in the back of the pick ups and in tents etc back there will have to find a new home or invest in a new chain saw.

And weird enough it had nothing to do with attendance figures either. Word from the administration is that the insurance review made a note of it saying that folks leaving the field pulled out directly on to a busy city road and that was a concern. (Where as if they do the same thing in the campus parking lot and have to make an extra turn or two on a crowded campus post game its not a concern?)

Anyway 'the moonshine brigade" as Sypult once called them looks to be out of action.

And sadly, like most D3 schools, the stadium is probably only third or fourth best in the city. Maryville, Alcoa and arguably with the new press box remodel William Blount all have larger and more crowd friendly stadiums that are always at capacity or beyond  ... and have lights!(why is that such a rarity in D3 football? (baseball and soccer have lights at MC but not football)


     A couple of comments:

- Have you looked at the other end of Honaker Field during a HC game? It is crowded but we can squeeze the "moonshine brigade" in. Especially if they are bringing refreshments!!   I have my chainsaw sharpened and ready to go if we need more space.  ;D
- Tennessee Vols football is king in East TN, HS football is next with multi time state champs Alcoa and Murval Rebs, then WB and Heritage. Heritage was solid but WB was bad back in the day. Not sure if they have added any championships to Blount Co. in recent years. That order of importance isn't going to change. However, winning will  help bring out the local support.  I have only missed 2 HC's since 1983. The crowds are always good. What type of local support are the Scots getting these days for other games?
- Lights are OK I suppose. To me, college football was meant to be played on Saturday afternoon.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on August 23, 2007, 05:47:16 PM
Even with the trees that have been planted in the Court St. endzone I believe that there will still be fans that park there unless the college begins to give them citations. The fan support has really started to begin to grow over the past few years. I am anxious to see what the crowd for the Home opener would be if the Fighting Scots are able to pull of two victories on the road to begin the season. Even without the ability to tailgate on one end of the field, Maryville always seems to have a nice pressence of Parents and alums who have a pretty good tailgate on the other end of the field ( Don't know if it's STone Station material or not), but they always seem eager to share great food with everyone.
P.S. I really liked the home field advantage that the tailgaters at the Court St. side gave the Scots.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 23, 2007, 07:42:15 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 23, 2007, 04:52:50 PM
You refer to Maryville (Tenn) but refer to Methodist's Coach. was there a coaching change I missed during these past few weeks of 100 plus temp or what.

Sypult can't talk about other teams' fans?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 23, 2007, 09:06:46 PM
monarch stadium could be SO MUCH better with just a few little changes:

add bleachers to the visitor side (making more seating for home fans and getting the visitors closer to their team...also eliminate potential issues between home and visiting fans...i'm amazed that nothing has got out of hand in my 10+ years following monarch football with the fans in such close proximity...can't tell you how many times i wanted to strangle this one particular ignorant fan of a certain team that beat mu on homecoming this past year...:))

expand the press box by about 20 feet on each side and put concessions on one end and restrooms on the other

put a wrought iron fence (or faux wrought iron fence) around the stadium, with a nice brick entry gate

get some tailgating going in the little parking lot across from the entrance (there have been some attempts at this, and i understand there will be a wholehearted effort to do this again this season)

make sure the pep band is ALWAYS at the game (they make a huge difference from a fans perspective...feels like college football)

make sure the monarchs win a lot :)

these are all changes that could be made with relative ease...if you want to go all out, build a field house in the large open area on the visitor side and tear down the old "tin gym" and make that area a practice facility

honestly, i think that facility has the potential to be an absolutely beautiful facility with just some minor changes...the location on campus, the seat back seating, the "bowl" configuration, growing crowd support...it could really be special with a little tlc

if i hit this powerball lottery, it'll happen :)  'narch stadium...that's got a nice ring :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 23, 2007, 09:09:55 PM
But will you be giving out a free pair of your signature faux leather chaps at each home game?  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 24, 2007, 01:46:36 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on August 23, 2007, 09:09:55 PM
But will you be giving out a free pair of your signature faux leather chaps at each home game?  ;D
first 100 through the gate get them :)

i'm going to try to swing by and watch some of the monarchs scrimmage vs. louisburg today...as a junior college, lc has some talent, but i hope the monarchs handle them pretty well (although it's not like mu has that many more upperclassmen than lc does)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 24, 2007, 05:47:02 PM
Sypult is always good for a comment and a side topic discussion, not to say fun tangent. He made mention of the Court Street fans, asking if they would be there with moonshine this year. They apprently made quite the impression on him over the years that he's brought teams to East Tennessee.

MC is of course the conference newbie starting year 3 in the USAC (while by far the oldest program opening its 110th season in 115 years -- no teams in 1898, 99, 1943, 44, 45) but has played Methodist 10 times since 1989. And may have good reason Methodist is 3-7 against Maryville.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 25, 2007, 07:31:59 AM
had a chance to swing by the scrimmage for a couple of series yesterday...the first teamers looked very impressive - the offense marched right down the field against probably the biggest dline they'll see this year...louisburg is HUGE on both lines (although a few of their guys looked a little sloppy big) - hill broke off a couple of really nice runs and ran hard - parks didn't make any bad decisions and completed all but one of the throws i saw him make - the 1st team defense got 2 "sacks" (they didn't allow qb's to go to the ground) on the first 2 passing plays and really collapsed the line - the 2nd team defense came in to play vs. lc's 1st team offense, and they had a hard time, though...there is a real drop-off to that 2nd team right now...didn't see the 2nd team offense as i had to leave, but overall, i was very impressed with where the monarchs are right now
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 25, 2007, 12:01:10 PM
Here is an article in the Winchester Star this morning previewing the 2007 Hornets. I'm looking forward seeing what Richard Glick can do playing a full season. In the practices I have watched the kid has a great arm.If for some reason the link wont work for you just go to Winchesterstar.com.
http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=603
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 25, 2007, 12:14:00 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on August 25, 2007, 12:01:10 PM
Here is an article in the Winchester Star this morning previewing the 2007 Hornets. I'm looking forward seeing what Richard Glick can do playing a full season. In the practices I have watched the kid has a great arm.If for some reason the link wont work for you just go to Winchesterstar.com.
http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=603

interesting.....i love confidence in players this time of year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 25, 2007, 07:39:13 PM
does anyone have any insight on the hsc/cnu scrimmage yesterday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 26, 2007, 08:27:13 AM
On "The LC" forum at HRTownSquare.com, CNUFB, who's Matt and Justin Long's father, said he heard that CNU dominated on both sides of the ball.  He also mentioned that the rb transfer from Cincinnati was awesome.  As they say, the proof's in the pudding.

GO CAPS!

P.S.  I didn't even know that website existed....did you?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 26, 2007, 08:36:50 AM
Well, you obviously did!  I just went to the site for the first time and saw you conversing with CNUFB....I guess I'm behind the times.  The information I mentioned previously was in the DP.

Did you really have to pay $2,500 per person to go to Texas?

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 26, 2007, 11:19:37 AM
Quote from: swish3 on August 26, 2007, 08:36:50 AM
Well, you obviously did!  I just went to the site for the first time and saw you conversing with CNUFB....I guess I'm behind the times.  The information I mentioned previously was in the DP.

Did you really have to pay $2,500 per person to go to Texas?

GO CAPS!

yeah...i got the scoop on the scrimmage...I was asking around to see what others heard or saw.

yep.....that was the asking price for the trip. Last I heard, there's a few seats left!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 26, 2007, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: swish3 on August 26, 2007, 08:27:13 AM
On "The LC" forum at HRTownSquare.com, CNUFB, who's Matt and Justin Long's father, said he heard that CNU dominated on both sides of the ball.  He also mentioned that the rb transfer from Cincinnati was awesome.  As they say, the proof's in the pudding.

GO CAPS!

P.S.  I didn't even know that website existed....did you?

yeah...i found it (actually was told about it by the DP writer who covers CNU) a few weeks ago. The blurb from CNUFB is in this morning's paper.

6 days left!!!!
Title: Fan Poll
Post by: Eh-You on August 26, 2007, 04:33:46 PM
FYI - fan poll released - 2 USA South teams in the top ten - not sure I agree but neat for the conference!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 26, 2007, 06:08:17 PM
Must be nice to have that kind of dough, 85.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 26, 2007, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: swish3 on August 26, 2007, 06:08:17 PM
Must be nice to have that kind of dough, 85.

I don't have it anymore....CJ does!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 26, 2007, 07:21:58 PM
It should have been three.

Greensboro College wins the USAC this year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 26, 2007, 07:44:25 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 26, 2007, 07:21:58 PM
It should have been three.

Greensboro College wins the USAC this year!

I keep giving you Karma, Mosh. Hopefully you'll get enough to cure your delirium.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 26, 2007, 07:55:14 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 26, 2007, 07:21:58 PM
It should have been three.

Greensboro College wins the USAC this year!

Oddly enough, not what Kickoff says. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 27, 2007, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 26, 2007, 07:55:14 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 26, 2007, 07:21:58 PM
It should have been three.

Greensboro College wins the USAC this year!

Oddly enough, not what Kickoff says. :)


Nothing wrong with his predication. Hell I am predicating Averett will upset the Mount. We all have to be a little crazy and have fun with this stuff.
By the way if my predication comes true I will be in Vegas first thing Sunday morning.
That will be crazy.............and never happen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 27, 2007, 11:57:30 AM
Its been a while since the last time I have posted. It doesn't matter too much, because nothing has changed.

1 CNU is still my favorite to win
2 NCWC will not win the conference and will probably finish 3rd or 4th.
3 AU will do better than what many think
4 GC has 10 of 11 starters returning on defense, plus I believe over half of the offense, will finish better than 3-7
5 MU will finish better than 4-6
6 MC could be a surprise team
7 FC could be a surprise team
8 SU will finish in last this season, but not next season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 27, 2007, 01:11:32 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 27, 2007, 11:57:30 AM
Its been a while since the last time I have posted. It doesn't matter too much, because nothing has changed.

1 CNU is still my favorite to win
2 NCWC will not win the conference and will probably finish 3rd or 4th.
3 AU will do better than what many think
4 GC has 10 of 11 starters returning on defense, plus I believe over half of the offense, will finish better than 3-7
5 MU will finish better than 4-6
6 MC could be a surprise team
7 FC could be a surprise team
8 SU will finish in last this season, but not next season.

    pride not speak um much (unlike allsky7 :D) but when he speak....you be wise to listen.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on August 27, 2007, 01:48:01 PM
Narch- Its good to hear the boys are doing well. Any thoughts on how lawerence looked. He is supposed to be the man this year at linebacker. Glad to hear that someone else is there to toat the rock with hill to be a good 3rd down back, now they just need to find a good fullback to lead the way and they will be in good shape.

My predictions-

CNU- Will win the conference outright this year. Looking at their roster, they have some good stuff returning, so they will be tough as always.

NCWC- could finish 2nd if they can improve any from last year. Player of the year is back in cedric Townsend. Good QB and a great running back in bush. Defense looks pretty solid on paper, we'll see.

MU- finish 3rd. Make vast improvements from last year and the line is more experienced and will be able to protect the qb better. Defense looks solid, and of course hill and parks and doleman on offense with a mix of mularski in there, thats a four part punch that you dont want a part of.

MC & GC- This is a toss up for these two spots. Both teams are pretty good  and are very disciplined. Lowe will be the key for GC and Maryville will have a good defense ready to go. Could bite some teams toward the end of the year.

Ferrum- Hard to replace Pitts. Not a good year for the panthers.

SU- Very young and immature. I dont look for them to be strong for a year or so.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 27, 2007, 01:53:30 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on August 27, 2007, 01:48:01 PM
Narch- Its good to hear the boys are doing well. Any thoughts on how lawerence looked. He is supposed to be the man this year at linebacker. Glad to hear that someone else is there to toat the rock with hill to be a good 3rd down back, now they just need to find a good fullback to lead the way and they will be in good shape.

My predictions-

CNU- Will win the conference outright this year. Looking at their roster, they have some good stuff returning, so they will be tough as always.

NCWC- could finish 2nd if they can improve any from last year. Player of the year is back in cedric Townsend. Good QB and a great running back in bush. Defense looks pretty solid on paper, we'll see.

MU- finish 3rd. Make vast improvements from last year and the line is more experienced and will be able to protect the qb better. Defense looks solid, and of course hill and parks and doleman on offense with a mix of mularski in there, thats a four part punch that you dont want a part of.

MC & GC- This is a toss up for these two spots. Both teams are pretty good  and are very disciplined. Lowe will be the key for GC and Maryville will have a good defense ready to go. Could bite some teams toward the end of the year.

Ferrum- Hard to replace Pitts. Not a good year for the panthers.

SU- Very young and immature. I dont look for them to be strong for a year or so.

     Hey MC...who told you MC's defense would be strong? I'm sure as heck glad to hear it but my sources tell me their D is the question mark. They should be able to score but can they stop their opponent from scoring?
     GO SCOTS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 27, 2007, 03:01:12 PM
THANK GOD FOOTBALL SEASON IS HERE!!!. I cant wait to see Catholic's new field turf as the Hornets open up at CUA Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 27, 2007, 03:15:51 PM
Hey Ryan Tipps, I'm looking forward to reading your articles each week covering the region. I hope you make a trip to Shentel Stadium in the near future.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 27, 2007, 04:49:22 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on August 27, 2007, 03:15:51 PM
Hey Ryan Tipps, I'm looking forward to reading your articles each week covering the region. I hope you make a trip to Shentel Stadium in the near future.

Thanks, Jessie. The first ATR is already posted.

I would love to make it up to Shentel sometime, if not this season, probably next. It would have to be for a game under the lights!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coastie on August 28, 2007, 05:19:41 AM
Great job pat, go CNU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on August 28, 2007, 06:45:06 AM
Allsky7- I heard from some guys down there. I never said they would be remarkable now, but i think they will be good. Of course loosing Northern at nose guard is a huge loss for them, but Hayden on the end is a pretty good fit with the other couple of lineman they have coming back.

Ryan Tipps, could you send me the link of the postem boards so i can do my picks. If im not mistaken, will it be the same format as last year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 28, 2007, 07:47:22 AM
Go to the multi-region topics under Post Patterns. Whole subcategory.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 28, 2007, 10:00:59 AM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on August 28, 2007, 06:45:06 AM
Ryan Tipps, could you send me the link of the postem boards so i can do my picks. If im not mistaken, will it be the same format as last year?

Yeah, what Pat said, it's there as a subcategory of General Football.

The trick, though, is that you have to be logged in to even see the board, let alone post on it.

The format is essentially the same, but with two changes. First, the person who comes the closest in the tiebreaker gets an extra point. Second, I now let people make one "weighted" pick. You can mark the one game that you are surest about, and that's worth double (two points) if you get it right.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 28, 2007, 12:30:42 PM
If anyone is interested in reading the SU/CUA game notes here is the link.
http://www.su.edu/athletics/football_gn.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 28, 2007, 02:18:21 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 27, 2007, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 26, 2007, 07:55:14 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 26, 2007, 07:21:58 PM
It should have been three.

Greensboro College wins the USAC this year!

Oddly enough, not what Kickoff says. :)


Nothing wrong with his predication.

No -- it was just a reminder that no Greensboro fan (or anyone who claims to be associated with the school) has ever purchased Kickoff in three years. The only other school on that list is Maranatha Baptist.

Where's the love?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 28, 2007, 03:17:55 PM
GC fans don't buy Kickoff because they are too busy......nevermind.

Hey....on a good note, check this link out. This guy the Daily Press calls a Superfan has it right, I think! He has to be smart....look when he graduated!

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-fbc_cnuteam,0,2327168.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-fbc_cnuteam,0,2327168.story)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 28, 2007, 04:46:10 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 28, 2007, 03:17:55 PM
GC fans don't buy Kickoff because they are too busy......nevermind.

Hey....on a good note, check this link out. This guy the Daily Press calls a Superfan has it right, I think! He has to be smart....look when he graduated!

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-fbc_cnuteam,0,2327168.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-fbc_cnuteam,0,2327168.story)

Nice job, 85!

You and Jennifer see eye to eye on a lot of games, and I definitely think some of your picks are right on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 28, 2007, 05:00:21 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 28, 2007, 03:17:55 PM
GC fans don't buy Kickoff because they are too busy......nevermind.

Hey....on a good note, check this link out. This guy the Daily Press calls a Superfan has it right, I think! He has to be smart....look when he graduated!

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-fbc_cnuteam,0,2327168.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-fbc_cnuteam,0,2327168.story)

85,

Nice write up, well written. Just hope some of your predictions don't hold up. You are right on with Averett, we are just hoping that Dunlevy can pull one of his rabbits out of the hat and turn this season into at least a winning one (6-4 maybe).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 28, 2007, 05:03:45 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 28, 2007, 03:17:55 PM
GC fans don't buy Kickoff because they are too busy......nevermind.

Hey....on a good note, check this link out. This guy the Daily Press calls a Superfan has it right, I think! He has to be smart....look when he graduated!

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-fbc_cnuteam,0,2327168.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-fbc_cnuteam,0,2327168.story)

Biting the tongue 85?   ::)

That superfan seems familiar...wonder who he is!!!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on August 28, 2007, 05:57:51 PM
Greetings and salutations fellow USA South posters. Been a while since Ive been on here. Alot has happened in my personal life, and Ive just been too darn busy to get on here for five minutes. But I have some time now and thought I would say hello and attempt to get back into the swing of things. Hope everyone had a great summer and is getting ready for a lil college football in less than a week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 28, 2007, 06:14:21 PM
Here is a nice article in todays Winchester Star about Hornets QB Richard Glick. It talks about how he over came last years broken leg injury and hopes to help the Hornets this year in a big way.
http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=657
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 28, 2007, 06:43:11 PM
Welcome back  Rooty-toot-toot!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 28, 2007, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on August 28, 2007, 05:57:51 PM
Greetings and salutations fellow USA South posters. Been a while since Ive been on here. Alot has happened in my personal life, and Ive just been too darn busy to get on here for five minutes. But I have some time now and thought I would say hello and attempt to get back into the swing of things. Hope everyone had a great summer and is getting ready for a lil college football in less than a week
Welcome back, R_T_T.  You made it just in time for the coin toss!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on August 28, 2007, 10:42:50 PM
I just want to wish all of the USA south teams Good Luck on this opening weekend. I would love nothing more than to see all of the teams end the Sat. with a "W" in the column. (I can't even believe I am going to say it) even Averett over The Mighty Mount Union. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on August 29, 2007, 01:23:05 AM
Quote from: hasanova on August 28, 2007, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on August 28, 2007, 05:57:51 PM
Greetings and salutations fellow USA South posters. Been a while since Ive been on here. Alot has happened in my personal life, and Ive just been too darn busy to get on here for five minutes. But I have some time now and thought I would say hello and attempt to get back into the swing of things. Hope everyone had a great summer and is getting ready for a lil college football in less than a week
Welcome back, R_T_T.  You made it just in time for the coin toss!

As Cheech said in Ghostbusters 2, "Well, better late than never."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 29, 2007, 10:11:24 AM
Here is a short cut out of a story from today's Winchester Star on 3 SU players.

"Senior offensive linemen Billy Temple and Shane Thurston and junior tight end Maurice Coleman have left their mark on the Shenandoah University football program, but none played in 2006 (and Coleman didn't play in 2005 either).Now they're all back, and the feeling is that their presence will go a long way toward making a team which prides itself on its running ability a rushing power once again. They get their first opportunity to prove it at 1 p.m. Saturday against Catholic in Washington."
http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=683

After reading this story and yesterdays on Glick I'm starting to belive that maybe, just maybe it wont be as bad as many were predicting 2007 will be for the Hornets.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on August 29, 2007, 12:11:27 PM
great article right there jessie. But hey, after you have set out a while from football, it is hard to get back into the swing of things. SU will be better than last year, thats for sure, but wont be as good as everyone is hoping for. They are just to young and inexperienced.

IT's football time baby, two more days and they are underway.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 29, 2007, 01:24:08 PM
Over on the ODAC board there is some talk about possible problems at Hampden Sydney. Anyone on this board heard anything. A good friend of mine is a graduate of HSC and he hasn't heard anything negative at this point.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 29, 2007, 04:31:04 PM
Pat if you take the cnu picture down and replace it with a Greensboro College picture for at least a day I would have no problem making the purchase.


Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 29, 2007, 04:39:31 PM
Pat, Are any of your photographs for sale? I might be interested in some SU ones in the future.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 29, 2007, 05:12:46 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 29, 2007, 04:31:04 PM
Pat if you take the cnu picture down and replace it with a Greensboro College picture for at least a day I would have no problem making the purchase.


Roll Pride

The privilege of having a lead photo is not for sale.

And it certainly wouldn't be for sale for $8.95.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 29, 2007, 06:13:11 PM
How about for 4.95 since I have an edu account?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mckinney on August 30, 2007, 10:23:08 AM
Hey guys, I'm in a "football pick'em contest" and I need some help with the Shenandoah vs. Catholic game? Who's gonna win? I live in Winchester and have heard that Shenandoah is bad. I saw that Catholic is picked next to last in their conference. So who wins?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 30, 2007, 10:29:57 AM
The Hornets of course. ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 30, 2007, 10:38:01 AM
Today's Winchester Star had another article about some SU players.  Here is a little part of the article to wet your whistle.
"They might not exactly fit into the definition of those "Old Face, New Place" graphics on ESPN, but Justin Mosser and Twaun Rhodes will be seen in front of Shentel Stadium football audiences like never before this season." http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=715
I don't know how the season will end up but it certainly looks like its shaping up to be one interesting season for the Hornets. Two days till kickoff. GO HORNETS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 30, 2007, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: mckinney on August 30, 2007, 10:23:08 AM
Hey guys, I'm in a "football pick'em contest" and I need some help with the Shenandoah vs. Catholic game? Who's gonna win? I live in Winchester and have heard that Shenandoah is bad. I saw that Catholic is picked next to last in their conference. So who wins?

Since the Cardinals have won twice as many games as the hornets over the past 2 years, and they are at home, I'd go that route!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 30, 2007, 04:51:28 PM
It looks like we got another solid crowd (15 or so) this year for the USA South pick-ems, but I still wanted to post a reminder that anyone is welcome to join. Picks have to be in by noon on Saturday.

I wouldn't mind seeing a couple more folks join in.

Click here (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4785.435) to get to the pick-ems board.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on August 30, 2007, 05:01:01 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on August 30, 2007, 04:51:28 PM
It looks like we got another solid crowd (15 or so) this year for the USA South pick-ems, but I still wanted to post a reminder that anyone is welcome to join. Picks have to be in by noon on Saturday.

I wouldn't mind seeing a couple more folks join in.

Click here (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4785.435) to get to the pick-ems board.


     Hey Ryan. I'm in on the pick ems. Am I picking against the spread? Anything else I need to know? Thanks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 30, 2007, 05:26:51 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on August 30, 2007, 05:01:01 PM
     Hey Ryan. I'm in on the pick ems. Am I picking against the spread? Anything else I need to know? Thanks.

Great. Good to have you, allsky!

Yeah, pick based on the spread. The two other things worth mentioning: Make sure you fill in the tiebreaker because the person closest to it gets an extra point. Also, mark the one pick you're the most confident about. If you get it right, it's worth double (two points).

That's the big stuff.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on August 30, 2007, 10:45:13 PM
Tipps you know Im in!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 30, 2007, 11:00:55 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on August 30, 2007, 10:45:13 PM
Tipps you know Im in!

I expect nothing less!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 30, 2007, 11:09:18 PM
I was invited on a last minute trip to go to OH for this weekend.  Independence (NC) high school is playing Elder High School for football, plus I will catch a Mount St. Joseph's football game Saturday against Wilmington (OH).  So I will be able to catch a opening weekend d3 game. I thought the trip seemed well worth it, I couldn't pass it up.  Good Luck to the USASouth this weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on August 31, 2007, 07:45:40 AM
Just so you know, Independence is playing on saturday so i guess you will have to pick a game that you will watch. Dont waste your time on the high school game, elder will kill them, go to the d3 game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on August 31, 2007, 09:26:29 AM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on August 31, 2007, 07:45:40 AM
Just so you know, Independence is playing on saturday so i guess you will have to pick a game that you will watch. Dont waste your time on the high school game, elder will kill them, go to the d3 game.

Independence is playing at 7:45pm and the d3 game is at 1:30pm.  The point is I want to be part of history when Elder does beat them and ends Independence's streak.  I am not leaving until later today. It sounds like a football packed weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on August 31, 2007, 10:23:32 AM
The Winchester Star had another article about the SU Football team this morning. Here is an article about kicker Chris Dooley.
"Last month he was one of six punters named to the Gilburg Award watch list, presented annually to the consensus All-America punter compiled from the American Football Coaches Association (AFCA), D3football.com and Associated Press Little All-America teams. He punted 71 times for a 40.6 average, achieving a long of 64 yards." (Jeff Taylor)
http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=751

You just cant get much better than a 40.6 average. GO HORNETS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 31, 2007, 03:21:15 PM
Kinda quiet in here....less than 24 hours until kickoff!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2007, 10:00:23 AM
wow...real quiet!

time to head for the game!!! looking forward to the board lighting up tonight!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 01, 2007, 11:06:40 AM
You know, it's this time of the year that I miss playing fb the most.  Then I remember all the hours spent soaking in an ice bath or hooked up to a stim machine or ultrasound machine....and I still MISS it!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 01, 2007, 11:19:36 AM
Papi
Where was the stim attached.....heh heh
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2007, 05:22:51 PM
CNU wins 23-17 over #10 Rowan......what a game!! That was the most fun I've had at a game - ever!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: JT on September 01, 2007, 05:33:53 PM
Congrats to CNU on a great game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2007, 05:40:21 PM
Thanks JT. That was an amazing game...both teams fought hard. I was in the radio booth broadcasting my first game (maybe only??). What a game to call on the radio...the entire experience was fantastic. The play by play guy (Francis Tommasino) made it easy.

Davon Edwards can play....what an athlete!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2007, 06:00:21 PM
Good job by UNCW....almost pulled one out against Wesley!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 01, 2007, 06:41:41 PM
Well I guess Boone is burning.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2007, 07:49:43 PM
My thoughts on the game.

CNU entered the game with question marks at RB, WR, LBs, and secondary. Both lines were set and the QB was coming off a good year.

WR Jesse Bradshaw had a tremendous game...I'll save all the stats for later. He was catching just about everything thrown his way. Also, he was an emotional leader...fun to watch.

LBs were ok....still need time to gel. Adrin Diggs came on strong towards the end.

QB - Faison had decent stats. More importantly he played very smart, very intelligent. He played a mentally good game....a la Brad Johnson....nothing dumb. The one INT was a deflected ball.

S - Matt Long....another game like today and he can wear a T-shirt that says Justin Who? in reference to his older brother, now CNU coach.

Interesting observation....RB Evan Taylor was playing cornerback in second half....O-lineman Wagner was playing D line in second half.

Finally 330 lb Julius Macklin...ran down Rankin on one play....ran him down, caught him and tackled him.....nice!!

Hit of the day......punt return (maybe a kick return).....Nathan Williams was jacked up by a Rowan blocker....Madden would have called it a "snot bubbler". NAthan was ok after a play or two...he had a strong game.
While one game doesn't answer all of the questions for an entire season, this game went a LONG way in helping the coaches evaluate the talent and leadership they have on the field.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: JT on September 01, 2007, 08:24:49 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 01, 2007, 07:49:43 PM
My thoughts on the game.

CNU entered the game with question marks at RB, WR, LBs, and secondary. Both lines were set and the QB was coming off a good year.

WR Jesse Bradshaw had a tremendous game...I'll save all the stats for later. He was catching just about everything thrown his way. Also, he was an emotional leader...fun to watch.

LBs were ok....still need time to gel. Adrin Diggs came on strong towards the end.

QB - Faison had decent stats. More importantly he played very smart, very intelligent. He played a mentally good game....a la Brad Johnson....nothing dumb. The one INT was a deflected ball.

S - Matt Long....another game like today and he can wear a T-shirt that says Justin Who? in reference to his older brother, now CNU coach.

Interesting observation....RB Evan Taylor was playing cornerback in second half....O-lineman Wagner was playing D line in second half.

Finally 330 lb Julius Macklin...ran down Rankin on one play....ran him down, caught him and tackled him.....nice!!

Hit of the day......punt return (maybe a kick return).....Nathan Williams was jacked up by a Rowan blocker....Madden would have called it a "snot bubbler". NAthan was ok after a play or two...he had a strong game.
While one game doesn't answer all of the questions for an entire season, this game went a LONG way in helping the coaches evaluate the talent and leadership they have on the field.

So was this your first radio gig? Was it on the web?  I might have tuned in.  I was listening to the Rowan radio feed. My best times in school were doing games on the college radio station.  Now I'm just an old alumn.  I'm gonna do d3 baseball and football again... somehow... someway.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2007, 08:31:02 PM
yep...my first gig and it was on the web. It was fun....kinda nervous, stumbled sometimes.....the regular guy comes back next week. I was asked on Wednesday to fill in.....and thank you for your wonderful web site, I used a lot of your resources when I was preparing and studying for the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Kelly Boggs on September 01, 2007, 09:39:04 PM
CNU85,

I saw you on the ASC board a couple of weeks ago inquiring as to what to do in Central  Texas the Friday evening prior to the UMHB - CNU game. Copperas Cove (about 30 miles due west of Belton) will be playing at home. They are currently the number one ranked team in class 4A (5A being the largest classification in Tx).

Cove is also the alma mater of current UMHB quarterback Josh Welch. Copperas Cove made it to the state championship game last year but lost to a team from San Antonio. It might be worth your while to take in the game.

To get to Cove you go west on Hwy 190. It will take you right into Cove. The stadium is only a few blocks off of 190 on the left - you will be able to see the lights.

Whatever you choose to do, I hope you have a great time in Texas.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2007, 10:19:33 PM
got it...thanks!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2007, 10:47:27 PM
Wonder what kind of crowd traveled with NCW today?  Wesley radio cast had it as standing room crowd.. NCW played a good game at Wesley today. Two fumbles inside the ten made it a little closer than it should have been but NCW took it to wesley early.

How bad Townsend was hurt? Broadcasters said he was limping noticably after he reentered latre in the game. With Townsend ,Bush and Webb NCW has some good weapons
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 01, 2007, 11:23:35 PM
Congrats to CNU for knocking off the "perpetually overrated because they're in the East Region" Rowan Profs.  And good job by NCW, Wesley is tough tough tough.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2007, 11:34:53 PM
time for stats on the CNU/RU game

pretty even, except turnovers

rushing
CNU 49-119 2.6 avg
RU 40-96 2.4 avg (includes the long 67 yd TD by Edwards in first 61 seconds of game.)

passing
CNU 13-27-1 163 yds
RU 18-35-3 166 yds 1 TD....all 3 INT's by sophomore Matt Long

First Downs
CNU - 17
RU - 15

Penalties
CNU 7-47
RU 6-48

Time of Poss (not even close)
CNU - 36:59
RU 23:01

Top rusher
CNU - Ogun 21-55
RU - Edwards 1-67

Sacks By
CNU - 6
RU -2

Punts
CNU - 9
RU - 8

Fairly even except TOP, sacks, and turnovers

CNU had one ball tipped for INT
RU - 3 picks and 1 fumble lost - not sure when fumble occured...all three picks were in second half....I think the fumble was too......yes it was.....

last 3 RU possessions ended...fumble, int.,  int.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 02, 2007, 01:28:33 AM
My congratulations as well to CNU for a very nice win against a ranked team and to NCWC for hanging tough on the road against a very respected opponent.  Nice job!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 02, 2007, 10:00:56 AM
Coming to you live from OH.  Good job CNU.  I will tell you one thing it is a whole different level of football up here,  I am talking about high school and college football. Before the MSJ and Wilmington(OH) game started I thought CNU might have been overratted in the preseason poll.  (Don't forget I still think CNU is the team to beat, and they proved that yesterday) The only thing that changed during the MSJ game was I thought MSJ did deserve votes for the poll.  This team could be dangerous in thier conference, as the fans mentioned, "we can pass the ball now" 31-19 final. Solid team, solid program, and solid fans.

Independence is now 109-1, yes Elder did beat them in OT.  That was an incredible game. Well worth the trip up here.  I will probably head to the St. Xavier-DeMatha game today.  Matchup of the #4 and #5 teams in high school poll.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 02, 2007, 11:53:53 AM
Hey Pat,

In previous scoreboards you had the games with top 25 teams listed at the top. Tht didn't happen this week. Can you bring it back. It helps show the upsets and also makes me aware of how well some teams are playing when yhey are not in the top 25......I'm not sure all that made sense....but you know what I mean.....

I need some breakfast.....lunch?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 02, 2007, 12:59:46 PM
Congrats to CNU on their victory yesterday and I also want to say congrats to Mount Union.

For those of you that have never experienced playing them, I want to tell you that are a first class organization; from the players (Great Sportsmanship), fans and coaches, especially the head coach. He is a first class act.  I thought one time they were going to have to send out for another score board.

I also believe the Averett coach (Mike Dunley and his staff) is first class as well and I am sure he will have the team in front of the projector tonight and reviewing every play, evey mistake and every good thing (there were a few bright spots) and he will get this team back on track. I knew they were young, but didn't realize how young until yesterday. They will bounce back and cause problems for some teams this year.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 02, 2007, 02:12:36 PM
Kickerdad,

You're right in that the coach at AU will make some adjustments and that AU will have better days this year. I'm no longer a coach of young people, but I would think, and hope and pray, after 52 points in the first quarter that the AU coach does not make those kids sit and watch every play. Sometimes there is nothing to learn from something like that. Every coach is different, but I would put that game behind as far as the technical x's and o's and focus on my team psyche right now!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on September 02, 2007, 05:20:51 PM
Guys the season started yesterday, let's get some chatter going about the games.
NCWC proved to be their worst enemy. They should have taken Wesley. I was
there and I'll tell the rest of USASAC WATCHOUT!!!!!!! They will be good GOD willing.
So let's here something whether you won or lost. Don't let a couple of guys dominate
the board. NCWC has Widener coming up next. If you're in Rocky Mount Saturday
check it out,it should be a wild one. SEE YA!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 02, 2007, 07:46:24 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 02, 2007, 11:53:53 AM
Hey Pat,

In previous scoreboards you had the games with top 25 teams listed at the top. Tht didn't happen this week. Can you bring it back. It helps show the upsets and also makes me aware of how well some teams are playing when yhey are not in the top 25......I'm not sure all that made sense....but you know what I mean.....

This was waiting on a technical issue but has been resolved -- Top 25 for next week posted as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 02, 2007, 07:58:22 PM
Smith Reed....I take it you're a NCW fan...WELL DONE and yes CNU has taken notice of you guys. Are you coming to the game at CNU this year? Let me know...we'll get together!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 02, 2007, 08:02:57 PM
Wow...CNU is now ranked 12th!! I think the highest they have ever been ranked is 11th (I think).

UNCW received votes....nicely done. The conference is getting some recognition.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 02, 2007, 08:57:34 PM
Bout time we got them Profs....  ;D ;D And what do you know a kicker played a big roll in doing so....  GREAT JOB CAPTS YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WIN MEANT FOR US OLD GUYS.... Good luck the rest of the way and continue to make CNU history.... 1st team to ever start out with a W.... Why don't you guys go undefeated and get some revenge for the USAC by beating Mount in the NC game... I know I know to early for that but you know what they same "Aim High"....

Take it one game at a time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 02, 2007, 09:29:35 PM
Nicely said Mr. H. And thanks for playing as hard as you did.....it was a pleasure to watch you play!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 03, 2007, 08:18:11 AM
Thanks 85, a lot of people might not understand the pride us former CNU players have for our program.  We took a chance by going to a new program and no one ever expected it to blossom so fast. Private or public I know for a fact that we worked damn hard to get what we have accomplished over the years, alot of time with the weight/respect of our conference on our shoulders and with little conference support because we where a public school.

Taking a look at things Pomoco is no Alliance (Mount Union Stadium) but you have to admit its Bad News to alot of ranked opponents. Also 85 don't know if I ever got the chance to meet you but it was my pleasure playing in front of you and a packed house every Saturday. I love my current job but nothing can replace the rush of  making a big play in the 4th qtr in front of screaming Captain fans. ;) ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 03, 2007, 03:44:53 PM
IS Averett that bad or do the Raiders belong in D2
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 03, 2007, 04:05:14 PM
I think Mt Union could beat some D1 schools. I think AU is just young this year and making some adjustments. They'll be ok.

CNUsfinest- I don't think we've ever met, or at least not introduced personally. Are you still around locally, or did a job take you away from the area?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: section13raiderfan on September 03, 2007, 04:22:08 PM
Quote
Quote from: abnrgr on September 03, 2007, 03:44:53 PM
IS Averett that bad or do the Raiders belong in D2

Averett is not that bad, but miscues buried them in a hurry and MUC reacted like sharks in a feeding frenzy. Averett had to field kickoffs looking directly into a bright sun. The resulting fumbles gave them turnovers or poor field position. The returners kept slipping on the turf......MUC didnt.....and Averetts blocking scheme didnt hold up at all. Hey, they were playing the National Champs, you would be nervous too!

No the Raiders do not belong in D2. The enrollment and facilities would not meet the requirements. The thing that makes MUC special is that football REALLY MATTERS to them. They won the STAGG BOWL with a team of inexperienced position players, having graduated many starters from the previous year. Now those players are back and VERY confident. The opposition MUST elevate their games...and that makes all of D3 the better for it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 03, 2007, 05:25:03 PM
Is it Saturday yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 03, 2007, 08:39:53 PM
Quote from: section13raiderfan on September 03, 2007, 04:22:08 PM
Quote
Quote from: abnrgr on September 03, 2007, 03:44:53 PM
IS Averett that bad or do the Raiders belong in D2

Averett is not that bad, but miscues buried them in a hurry and MUC reacted like sharks in a feeding frenzy. Averett had to field kickoffs looking directly into a bright sun. The resulting fumbles gave them turnovers or poor field position. The returners kept slipping on the turf......MUC didnt.....and Averetts blocking scheme didnt hold up at all. Hey, they were playing the National Champs, you would be nervous too!

No the Raiders do not belong in D2. The enrollment and facilities would not meet the requirements. The thing that makes MUC special is that football REALLY MATTERS to them. They won the STAGG BOWL with a team of inexperienced position players, having graduated many starters from the previous year. Now those players are back and VERY confident. The opposition MUST elevate their games...and that makes all of D3 the better for it.

We will know more about Averett in a couple of weeks. However I can tell you Mount Union deservers the honor of being called National Champions. They are amazing. I saw them in Danville last year and I am sure they are stronger, faster and smarter than last year. Zero mistakes. They are well coached and display the best sportsmanship I have seen since watching DIII. The coach is first class all the way.

Section13raiderfan, you are being too modest. Mount could go D2 tomorrow and not blink and eye. Regardless of facilities and enrollment those 22 starters I saw Saturday could go against a few D1 teams without any issues.

If every DIII program could get where Mount Union is right now, there would be some hell on wheel ball games every week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 03, 2007, 09:45:26 PM
kickerdad,

I need your help with something. I don't know what to do and it's serious. Saturday night my daughter went to the home of a football player from her school to watch the Tennessee/California game with friends.......here's the part I'm struggling with....he's the kicker!!! What should I do?....I was thinking about taking her car away from her!!!

:D ;D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 03, 2007, 09:48:29 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 03, 2007, 09:45:26 PM
kickerdad,

I need your help with something. I don't know what to do and it's serious. Saturday night my daughter went to the home of a football player from her school to watch the Tennessee/California game with friends.......here's the part I'm struggling with....he's the kicker!!! What should I do?....I was thinking about taking her car away from her!!!

:D ;D :D :D ;D

Take the car and ground her. You may want to go shoot the bum in the foot as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 03, 2007, 10:00:12 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 03, 2007, 09:48:29 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 03, 2007, 09:45:26 PM
kickerdad,

I need your help with something. I don't know what to do and it's serious. Saturday night my daughter went to the home of a football player from her school to watch the Tennessee/California game with friends.......here's the part I'm struggling with....he's the kicker!!! What should I do?....I was thinking about taking her car away from her!!!

:D ;D :D :D ;D

Take the car and ground her. You may want to go shoot the bum in the foot as well.


  CNU85

Don't worry too much until she starts holding for him in the off season
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 03, 2007, 10:04:26 PM
hmmmm...maybe I should wait to see if he plays college ball and where!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on September 03, 2007, 10:05:41 PM
CNU85, I'll be in Newport News for the game. I'll make
it a point to look you up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 03, 2007, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 03, 2007, 10:04:26 PM
hmmmm...maybe I should wait to see if he plays college ball and where!

Indeed !!!! Tho he could wan to go out of state ,Va,NC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 03, 2007, 10:21:18 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on September 03, 2007, 10:05:41 PM
CNU85, I'll be in Newport News for the game. I'll make
it a point to look you up.

sure thing! See ya then!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 03, 2007, 10:24:27 PM
Congrats to CNU on the#12 spot in poll and NCWC 4 votes. I am south regions new Mount St. Joe fan, why did they lose votes? 2TD passes in one game only 5 more to match last seasons total and thier great RB, Lovell didn't even play most of the game. I move on, I seriously thought I was watching CNU play, MSJ away uniforms look almost identical to CNU's home uniforms.  I would like to see that game between those schools.

It was good to see the big jump in the polls for the USASouth means we are getting some respect. However to play devil's advocate its not too often where you see an unranked team lose to a ranked team and still manage to get votes for a poll. I still believe that NCWC will not win the conference I might be a little more convinced that NCWC has a great shot if they blow out Emory & Henry in two weeks or Widener this weekend. I don't see that coming though.  This first weekend was upset weekend across the country.  One game is never enough, unless you are Mt. Union

Big Ten fans in OH want Michigan to drop the Big Ten Conference, and join the MAC.  This way they will have a conference full of Michigan Schools.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 03, 2007, 10:40:51 PM
85 I'm not to far away, I work in Williamsburg and I just bought a home in the outer area of Richmond.  Mom still lives in good old King & Queen county so I'm not trying to move too far from the old lady.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on September 03, 2007, 11:27:44 PM
I'm planning to drive down from Dallas for the game Saturday.  It's played in a big Texas high school stadium.

I'll probably sit on the visitor side.  I'll be wearing my D3football.com hat.  Stop by and say hello.  I'll keep up on the posts until then.  It should be a great college game.   UMHB always has a large crowd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on September 04, 2007, 07:43:06 AM
Great Job this week by CNU, and NCWC. I was a little shocked at how well ncwc played, i thought they might be overwhelmed by wesley being number 6 and all that other nonsense. They did a great job up there. CNU, excellent as always, rowan has a history of being a good football program, and you dominated the game in every facit.
        As for the Averett fans, well, not too much can be said that hasnt already. They were playing the number 1 school in D3, and it goes to show that mistakes can kill you. they set a new record by scoring 52 points in the first quarter, heck some schools dont score 52 points in a game.
     I think the conference will be as i have said all along, it will be between ncwc and cnu. I think this maybe the year we have finally have one outright champion, it will be one of those two schools. Great job and excited about conference play!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 04, 2007, 11:10:29 AM
Hey to all the Methodist fans.  If any of you plan to be in Fayetteville Sept. 8 for the Guilford game, I'd like to say hello.  I met narch when the Quakers played basketball at MU last December, but it would be nice to see him again and meet some other Monarch fans.  With luck, I'll be there an hour or so before kickoff and have some lunch at my car in the parking lot.  I didn't travel to Fayetteville last year, but did make the trip in 2004.  Looks like the Quakers agreed to play the Monarchs two years in a row in Fayetteville to get back to a balanced 5 home and 5 away schedule, so we look to see you in Greensboro next year!

Based on past history, I expect to see the Quakers pass a ton on Saturday.  It should be interesting!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 04, 2007, 11:25:54 AM
Nova, not sure if I'll be heading that way or not.  It all depends on the weather...I'll be fishing if I can but if the weather is going to be snotty I may had up to the 'Nam and check out the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 04, 2007, 11:38:21 AM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 04, 2007, 11:25:54 AM
Nova, not sure if I'll be heading that way or not.  It all depends on the weather...I'll be fishing if I can but if the weather is going to be snotty I may had up to the 'Nam and check out the game.
Well, if you make the game, give me a shout.  I'll give you a PM to let you know how to spot me.  Fishing or football - looks like you can't lose either way!  :)  Even though it's your home game, right now I might give a slight edge to the Quakers based on having one game under our belt and Guilford's experienced passing game.  What do you guys think?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 04, 2007, 11:42:37 AM
Well as we all know 6 points just wont win you too many games in any league. Pee-Wee to the NFL. I cant belive that the Hornets lost in the final 5:00 minutes of the game. The defense played great. Like last year they gave it all they had but the offense let them down at the end. Bridgewater is this week. I'm just hoping the Hornets can make it entertaining to watch on Saturday night. On a side note CUA's field turf look great. I wish SU would install that soon at Shentel. Its been talk about it at times but not real sure how serious it is. Anyone know if any other school in the USAC have been talking about installing that surface in the future? Here are Winchester Stars article about the game against CUA. http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=816


"Shenandoah head coach Paul Barnes said the Hornets' offense never should have put the defense in a situation where one play could lose the game. The defense certainly did its part leading up to the touchdown, as Shenandoah picked off Catholic quarterbacks four times (Ricca three, backup John Jacobs once) and held the Cardinals to 2.7 yards per rushing attempt."Robert Niedzwiecki
The Winchester Star
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 04, 2007, 11:56:12 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 03, 2007, 10:04:26 PM
hmmmm...maybe I should wait to see if he plays college ball and where!

If he goes to VT you are in big trouble.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2007, 01:28:17 PM
The Mid-Atlantic ATR is on line for this week. Another fine job by Legacy!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 04, 2007, 02:55:39 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 03, 2007, 09:48:29 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 03, 2007, 09:45:26 PM
kickerdad,

I need your help with something. I don't know what to do and it's serious. Saturday night my daughter went to the home of a football player from her school to watch the Tennessee/California game with friends.......here's the part I'm struggling with....he's the kicker!!! What should I do?....I was thinking about taking her car away from her!!!

:D ;D :D :D ;D

Take the car and ground her. You may want to go shoot the bum in the foot as well.


     Being a former Fighting Scot kicker myself and spending a few years in East Tn, the real question here is....is she a Vol fan?  ;) :D
      MAN....how about those Cal skill guys?  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on September 04, 2007, 03:10:31 PM
My first post here. Just want to say PANTHERS ALL THE WAY!! Ferrum baby, Ferrum.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 04, 2007, 03:12:01 PM
     Anyone see the Fighting Scots against LaGrange? I knew this would not be a cake walk for the Scots. Did the Scots look Ok? Is LaGrange much improved?
     IMO, as stated earlier, this weeks Centre game in Danville will be the pivotal point of the year for the Scots. (despite the fact it is not a conference game) If they go on the road and beat a usually solid Centre team, I think it propels them to at least a 7 and 3 season. If they lose, 5 and 5 at best.
     GO SCOTS!!  8)
     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 04, 2007, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on September 04, 2007, 03:10:31 PM
My first post here. Just want to say PANTHERS ALL THE WAY!! Ferrum baby, Ferrum.
All the way to ..... ?   A 50-7 loss at home is not exactly an awe-inspiring start, Black Panthers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on September 04, 2007, 03:17:37 PM
Ferrum would look great with field turf. Imagine how perfect that would be sitting in the stands in surrounded by the mountains and looking at that beautiful field. But I think they need to get lights first. In fact they need to put in some major bucks to renovate the whole stadium.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on September 04, 2007, 03:22:20 PM
This may seem like a dumb question but what is Karma, how do you get it, and would I be able to give karma to anyone else?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2007, 03:28:58 PM
Karma is covered in our FAQ.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2007, 03:43:40 PM
Christopher Newport and North Carolina Wesleyan are among teams discussed in this week's Around the Nation podcast. It's a wrapup of the interesting stories on the national scene, plus a chance to hear our opinions about teams:

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2007/09/04/around-the-nations-take/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2007, 03:55:49 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 04, 2007, 03:14:42 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on September 04, 2007, 03:10:31 PM
My first post here. Just want to say PANTHERS ALL THE WAY!! Ferrum baby, Ferrum.
All the way to ..... ?   A 50-7 loss at home is not exactly an awe-inspiring start, Black Panthers.

Black Panthers,

Welcome to the board....we need a Ferrum fan on here. You will get abused at first - we all did. How much you get abused depends on how, as we say it on here, "how much you get your panties in a wad". Don't take things too seriously......and whew...man, be optimistic, but "Panthers All The Way"????? You opened the door for Hasanova (who asked a very good question....All the way....?? where??)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 04, 2007, 08:16:29 PM
All Sky

Scots won but it was far from pretty. Offense never got in sync but that was as much to do with laGrange blitzing from a different position every snap as the fact the execution wasn't up to standard. The good news was 12 hits for loss by the new defense and 9 of those were sacks for over 100 negative yards.

Ierulli told me today he was among the crowd who called to congratulate CNU (Kelchner) on a great out of conference win.

Two other MC notes from the weekly USAC awards, Dustin Locke showed why he was preseason all america as a return man. His best return was brought back by an away from the play and needless block in back but he still was over 20 yards per punt return.
The other was the defensive rookie of week, Jack Breyman. The kid was a beast in the defensive line rotation. Recovered a botched punt and took it in for the score then put one of those eyeballs roll up in the back of the head hits in on a solo sack with a couple pressures that ran the qb into somebody else. Both guys are in the Naples, Fla. pipeline that empties out in Maryville.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: powerslant/2 on September 04, 2007, 09:00:30 PM
CNU is HOT, I hope they can keep it up. The QB has got to make better experience decisions, the young outside corner, LB & DB have got to progress each and every GAME.  The front 4 is what the team is built around and D. Parker is finally flying to the ball like the orginal front 4 with those two quick book ends from back in the day. 8) :-X
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2007, 09:04:12 PM
powerslant - check your personal messages....I just sent you one
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 04, 2007, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 04, 2007, 08:16:29 PM
All Sky

Scots won but it was far from pretty. Offense never got in sync but that was as much to do with laGrange blitzing from a different position every snap as the fact the execution wasn't up to standard. The good news was 12 hits for loss by the new defense and 9 of those were sacks for over 100 negative yards.

Ierulli told me today he was among the crowd who called to congratulate CNU (Kelchner) on a great out of conference win.

Two other MC notes from the weekly USAC awards, Dustin Locke showed why he was preseason all america as a return man. His best return was brought back by an away from the play and needless block in back but he still was over 20 yards per punt return.
The other was the defensive rookie of week, Jack Breyman. The kid was a beast in the defensive line rotation. Recovered a botched punt and took it in for the score then put one of those eyeballs roll up in the back of the head hits in on a solo sack with a couple pressures that ran the qb into somebody else. Both guys are in the Naples, Fla. pipeline that empties out in Maryville.

     Thanks!! Sounds like the Scots will need a better effort next week in Danville. Based on the write up, sounds like Hightower better get used to being keyed on  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: powerslant/2 on September 04, 2007, 09:12:58 PM
Now no disrespect to Averett U.  but you don't take on a mighty power such as Mt. Union in the season opening, you build your team against other top 15 powers and hope you gain enough experience with them and then take on the Mt. Union or St. John in the late rounds of post season play. :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2007, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: powerslant/2 on September 04, 2007, 09:12:58 PM
Now no disrespect to Averett U.  but you don't take on a mighty power such as Mt. Union in the season opening, you build your team against other top 15 powers and hope you gain enough experience with them and then take on the Mt. Union or St. John in the late rounds of post season play. :o

Hey Cliff....check your personal messages
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 04, 2007, 09:32:13 PM
There's a link at the top of the screen for personal messages, for those who are wondering.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2007, 09:36:17 PM
thanks Pat. I hope he gets it....just trying to keep people out of trouble.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 04, 2007, 09:42:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 04, 2007, 01:28:17 PM
The Mid-Atlantic ATR is on line for this week.

Hey there "superfan", "CNWho 85", "Purple Maniac",  ;D

Have a great trip this weekend. If you run into CluAlum39 or his pops, Roocru, tell them Llamaguy said hey. They literally flew into Stone Station at the Stagg last year and tailgated with us for about 12 hrs! I know their arms were tired from flying in, but Roocru's memory was quite sharp and was quoted as saying, "I can come back to the Stagg for the next 10yrs and never pay for a drink with what I have seen at this tailgate." Wisconsin women? What can we say!

Good luck to CNU, we will consume a green bottle in SU land for CNU.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2007, 09:46:16 PM
Thanks Llama - these 2 weeks have been a blast and getting better every day...problem is I have my nfl fantasy draft tomorrow night and i'm not ready!!

i love this time of year!!
Title: SU WILL SURPRISE
Post by: su4life on September 04, 2007, 10:54:44 PM
SU will surprise a lot of folks this year. they have a great defense and once their offense comes along its gonna be lights out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2007, 07:33:38 AM
Quote from: su4life on September 04, 2007, 10:54:44 PM
SU will surprise a lot of folks this year. they have a great defense and once their offense comes along its gonna be lights out.

Maybe so, and I hope you are right but SU is going on a season (8.8 ppg) and one game (6pts) of not much offense. Just not cutting it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on September 05, 2007, 07:41:03 AM
Ferrum is going all the way???? You kidding me! The only thing that looked good in that game was that running back who had 112 yards rushing. Ferrum's problem is that they could not score, they moved the ball ok with him, but they have got to have someone else pick up the load. With silk gone, pitts gone, mulford gone, it will be a long year for the panthers. Their defense is non-existent as well.
       In other news, congrats to the captains again, i looked at the game notes and they were very impressive. I know i said it earlier in a post, but ill say it again, them boys may win it all this year, but this year i hope they dont choke in the playoffs. Not that they choke, but do better than in the years past. If we want the conference to get more respect and more looks from others, we need to do well in the playoffs.
      WHERE IS NARCH, how are the boys lookin for sat versus those quakers?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 05, 2007, 08:18:03 AM
fayetteville observer article (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=271339) on monarch wr, jonathan mularski

great opening weekend for cnu, and ncwc played well...i'm afraid that the monarchs could be better (i think they will be), but the record may not reflect it

i'm having dreams about footballs being launched through the air by someone wearing the #16...

i hope the monarch front 7/8 can really bring some heat this weekend and keep mr. vogelbach on his heels...he'll pick the db's apart if he is allowed to sit back and find receivers...should be fun to see
Title: Re: SU WILL SURPRISE
Post by: willierobin on September 05, 2007, 08:35:16 AM
Quote from: su4life on September 04, 2007, 10:54:44 PM
SU will surprise a lot of folks this year. they have a great defense and once their offense comes along its gonna be lights out.
I think it was more Catholic's offense stopping themselves than SU's defense being good...let's see how many Bridgewater scores this week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 05, 2007, 09:06:44 AM
Quote from: narch on September 05, 2007, 08:18:03 AM
fayetteville observer article (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=271339) on monarch wr, jonathan mularski

great opening weekend for cnu, and ncwc played well...i'm afraid that the monarchs could be better (i think they will be), but the record may not reflect it

i'm having dreams about footballs being launched through the air by someone wearing the #16...

i hope the monarch front 7/8 can really bring some heat this weekend and keep mr. vogelbach on his heels...he'll pick the db's apart if he is allowed to sit back and find receivers...should be fun to see

narch, I plan to be at MU this weekend.  I hope we can chat some.  I think #16 will launch more than a few this weekend, but we'll see how much protection he gets.  I think Methodist will be a stronger test than SVU, so I'm not expecting 70 in any other games this season.  I took note of Vogelbach's one interception last Saturday, which is a lot better than some of his games last year.  I know it's something the coaches worked on during the off-season.  Hopefully, he's making better decisions this year.  I'm looking forward to the game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 05, 2007, 09:16:09 AM
It was against Southern Virginia. I wouldn't draw any conclusions.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 05, 2007, 01:26:50 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 05, 2007, 09:16:09 AM
It was against Southern Virginia. I wouldn't draw any conclusions.
Yes, I know.  No conclusions have been drawn. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 05, 2007, 02:48:23 PM
i'm having dreams about footballs being launched through the air by someone wearing the #16...

[/quote]

Yes Dustin told me about your dreams Narchster
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2007, 05:58:05 PM
Greensboro vs UNC-P Game

On the pick'em contest on here  WCLegacy made the spread even,  I was surprised by that.  If I recall UNC-P is D2 school and I don't care if it is thier first game home game in 50 years, I was still surpised even a little by it.  I learned within the past couple of days that UNC-P runs a spread offense, I think our defense matches well with a spread defense, just ask Vogelbach (we account four 21% of his interceptions the last two years) Vogelbach is a good QB, I don't think it will be fair to say that UNC-P's QB will be as good as him. I don't know what the outcome of this game will be, but I do know the outcome will not be in GC's favor, if TO's and penalities are through the roof at the stadium. I hope GC doesn't take offense to this, but leading the conference in TO's since 2003 is not a good catergory to lead. I know the players are hyped and ready to go they had the week off last week and are dying to get started. Hopefully GC gets a story on the front page for beating a D2 school  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 05, 2007, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2007, 05:58:05 PM
Greensboro vs UNC-P Game

On the pick'em contest on here  WCLegacy made the spread even,  I was surprised by that.  If I recall UNC-P is D2 school and I don't care if it is thier first game home game in 50 years, I was still surpised even a little by it.  ...

Really, don't read too much into my spread for this game. Eighty-five percent of the spreads I set based on some amount of research and some amount of gut feeling. The Gboro/UNC fits into that other 15 percent. Since I'm guessing that many people don't know all that much about UNC-P, it was an easy game for me to honor the promise I made in the pick-em rules:

Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on July 11, 2007, 12:20:27 AM
3a. I will be using spreads. For those of you who don't know how that works, that means games will be listed, for example: Maryville (+17.5) at CNU. That means, if you pick CNU, the Captains have to beat the Scots by at least 18 points for you to be credited with a correct pick. And Maryville can lose by as many as 17 points and still cover the spread.

3b. As a compromise to those who aren't such a fan of spreads and want a more straight-up pick-ems approach, I will be setting many more games this year at "even" or some minute spread, such as "+1.5." Hopefully that will help keep everyone happy.

And, for what it's worth, D2 teams can be jokes as well. Just look at Chowan.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2007, 06:41:10 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on September 05, 2007, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2007, 05:58:05 PM
Greensboro vs UNC-P Game

On the pick'em contest on here  WCLegacy made the spread even,  I was surprised by that.  If I recall UNC-P is D2 school and I don't care if it is thier first game home game in 50 years, I was still surpised even a little by it.  ...

Really, don't read too much into my spread for this game. Eighty-five percent of the spreads I set based on some amount of research and some amount of gut feeling. The Gboro/UNC fits into that other 15 percent. Since I'm guessing that many people don't know all that much about UNC-P, it was an easy game for me to honor the promise I made in the pick-em rules:

Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on July 11, 2007, 12:20:27 AM
3a. I will be using spreads. For those of you who don't know how that works, that means games will be listed, for example: Maryville (+17.5) at CNU. That means, if you pick CNU, the Captains have to beat the Scots by at least 18 points for you to be credited with a correct pick. And Maryville can lose by as many as 17 points and still cover the spread.

3b. As a compromise to those who aren’t such a fan of spreads and want a more straight-up pick-ems approach, I will be setting many more games this year at “even” or some minute spread, such as “+1.5.” Hopefully that will help keep everyone happy.

And, for what it's worth, D2 teams can be jokes as well. Just look at Chowan.

I am complimenting your spread. 
I thought your spread was good.  I don't mind being "even" with a d2 school.  ;D  Chowan, well, I can't disagree they are a joke.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 05, 2007, 06:46:18 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2007, 06:41:10 PM
I am complementing your spread. 
I thought your spread was good.  I don't mind being "even" with a d2 school.  ;D  Chowan, well, I can't disagree they are a joke.

In that case, thank you!  ;D  I wasn't sure which way you were leaning when you said you were surprised by the spread, so I wanted to give you the background. Unfortunately, the picks themselves aren't too evenly distributed...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 05, 2007, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2007, 06:41:10 PMI am complementing your spread. 
I thought your spread was good.  I don't mind being "even" with a d2 school.  ;D  Chowan, well, I can't disagree they are a joke.
If you are complementing Ryan's spread, then what are you adding to perfect his process?  If, on the other hand, you are complimenting Ryan's spread, then his process may already be perfect.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 05, 2007, 07:03:52 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 05, 2007, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2007, 06:41:10 PMI am complementing your spread. 
I thought your spread was good.  I don't mind being "even" with a d2 school.  ;D  Chowan, well, I can't disagree they are a joke.
If you are complementing Ryan's spread, then what are you adding to perfect his process?  If, on the other hand, you are complimenting Ryan's spread, then his process may already be perfect.

The copy editor in me noticed that little linguistical nuance, too, but methinks he meant "complimenting."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 05, 2007, 07:23:05 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on September 05, 2007, 07:03:52 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 05, 2007, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2007, 06:41:10 PMI am complementing your spread. 
I thought your spread was good.  I don't mind being "even" with a d2 school.  ;D  Chowan, well, I can't disagree they are a joke.
If you are complementing Ryan's spread, then what are you adding to perfect his process?  If, on the other hand, you are complimenting Ryan's spread, then his process may already be perfect.

The copy editor in me noticed that little linguistical nuance, too, but methinks he meant "complimenting."
Ryan, there's a little inside joke here.  I also knew "compliment" was intended.  Then, rather than this, we could be talking about sports!  (narch, the previous sentence was for you!)   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 05, 2007, 08:09:43 PM
From watching on the sidelines, I'm well aware of the then/than taunting that has gone on on this board.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 05, 2007, 08:38:55 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on September 05, 2007, 08:09:43 PM
From watching on the sidelines, I'm well aware of the then/than taunting that has gone on on this board.  :)
Taunting is such a harsh word.  I prefer mentoring.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 05, 2007, 09:12:33 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 05, 2007, 02:48:23 PMYes Dustin told me about your dreams Narchster
hey, if you saw papi's girlfriend and her best friend you'd have some nice dreams, too...i still have NO IDEA how papi pulled that one off...

speaking of which...papi, are you still with her? i'll be heading down your way next week...you up for some 22 north...maybe thursday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 05, 2007, 09:18:53 PM
uncp is getting TONS of hype in the local papers...in fact, between the uncp football team and the campbell football program, you'd hardly know that mu and fsu even field teams...but, i think they'll be solid and a tough test for gc - i don't think they're in the chowan category, even as a first year program...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 05, 2007, 09:34:06 PM
Narch, you know I'm not gonna let that one get away! 

Yeah, I'm down for some 22 North/ Lagerheads/ anywhere else!  How long you gonna be in town?  Thursday nights is bikini bullriding at the country bar....never mind...you'll want to bring those leather chaps and participate  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on September 05, 2007, 10:23:13 PM
Cudos to the staff and administration who managed to put together CNU's preconference schedule for us d3 fans.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2007, 10:51:31 PM
Quote from: narch on September 05, 2007, 09:18:53 PM
uncp is getting TONS of hype in the local papers...in fact, between the uncp football team and the campbell football program, you'd hardly know that mu and fsu even field teams...but, i think they'll be solid and a tough test for gc - i don't think they're in the chowan category, even as a first year program...

I actually agree with you. 
I can't even get a seat, it will be standing room only.
It will be a good test for GC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 05, 2007, 11:52:14 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 05, 2007, 10:23:13 PM
Cudos to the staff and administration who managed to put together CNU's preconference schedule for us d3 fans.


they do it every year....i now have grey hair!!

my weekend has started!!!! fantasy draft just concluded.......a day off tomorrow....then off to Texas!!!!! This weekend will be a blast!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 06, 2007, 12:00:10 AM
85,
Hope you have a great time in Texas. And more importantly, I hope you get to see your boys win on Saturday!

Can you text me updates again?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 12:38:33 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on September 06, 2007, 12:00:10 AM
85,
Hope you have a great time in Texas. And more importantly, I hope you get to see your boys win on Saturday!

Can you text me updates again?

will do!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: su4life on September 06, 2007, 06:33:56 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 05, 2007, 07:33:38 AM
Quote from: su4life on September 04, 2007, 10:54:44 PM
SU will surprise a lot of folks this year. they have a great defense and once their offense comes along its gonna be lights out.

Maybe so, and I hope you are right but SU is going on a season (8.8 ppg) and one game (6pts) of not much offense. Just not cutting it.

Yeah I think the can right the ship. You know in the season of football it only takes a couple of games to gain confidence. and your a whole new team
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 06, 2007, 10:19:15 AM
The Winchester Star had an article today about the up coming game against BC.  "Shenandoah coach Paul Barnes said the offense, which started five sophomores (against CUA), might have been feeling some nerves."It's just that trust factor," Barnes said. "The more you play, the better the trust factor is. That just comes from time. We'll be better this week with it, we'll be better next week after it, and then you gain that confidence and you go."By Robert Niedzwiecki The Winchester Star
http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=881

I hope the Defense can hold it together like they did last week. Its a long shot, but if the Hornet D can keep things close, maybe just maybe a miracle can happen.  :-\



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 06, 2007, 11:35:06 AM

Looks like Murvul is without Russ Harris for the rest of the season. Fourth ACL injury this year for MC.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070906/SPORTS/70906019 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070906/SPORTS/70906019)

For those folks in greater Blount County, The Tony Ierulli show returns to tv tonight at 9 pm followed by the prep show with co-host John Brice (have to plug the boss  ;D)

The Scots radio show will be on 1470 AM tonight at 8 p.m.

Not sure I can handle this secretly rooting for newport two weeks in a row but if they can make my pick look good for a second week in a row, I'll manage.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 06, 2007, 02:24:19 PM
Here are the game notes for the SU/BC game on Saturday. http://www.su.edu/athletics/Football_gn.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on September 06, 2007, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 05, 2007, 11:52:14 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 05, 2007, 10:23:13 PM
Cudos to the staff and administration who managed to put together CNU's preconference schedule for us d3 fans.


they do it every year....i now have grey hair!!

my weekend has started!!!! fantasy draft just concluded.......a day off tomorrow....then off to Texas!!!!! This weekend will be a blast!!!!
Here are the details on the stadium.
  http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/stadium.php?id=163
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on September 06, 2007, 05:38:09 PM
Ill be listening to the game on my laptop, CNU85. Hope you guys have a safe trip tomorrow and dont have too much fun in Texas. I hear the radio crew may end up at the Ballpark At Arlington, or whatever that place is called now, Friday night.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 06, 2007, 10:19:15 AM
The Winchester Star had an article today about the up coming game against BC.  "Shenandoah coach Paul Barnes said the offense, which started five sophomores (against CUA), might have been feeling some nerves."It's just that trust factor," Barnes said. "The more you play, the better the trust factor is. That just comes from time. We'll be better this week with it, we'll be better next week after it, and then you gain that confidence and you go."By Robert Niedzwiecki The Winchester Star
http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=881

I hope the Defense can hold it together like they did last week. Its a long shot, but if the Hornet D can keep things close, maybe just maybe a miracle can happen.  :-\





I trust BC will win this game with no problem!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 06:11:41 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 06, 2007, 11:35:06 AM

Looks like Murvul is without Russ Harris for the rest of the season. Fourth ACL injury this year for MC.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070906/SPORTS/70906019 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070906/SPORTS/70906019)

For those folks in greater Blount County, The Tony Ierulli show returns to tv tonight at 9 pm followed by the prep show with co-host John Brice (have to plug the boss  ;D)

The Scots radio show will be on 1470 AM tonight at 8 p.m.

Not sure I can handle this secretly rooting for newport two weeks in a row but if they can make my pick look good for a second week in a row, I'll manage.



That sucks for Harris.

and as far as secretly rooting for CNU.....ahhhhh...you're showing the love!!! I'll keep it a secret!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 06:13:52 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 06, 2007, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 05, 2007, 11:52:14 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 05, 2007, 10:23:13 PM
Cudos to the staff and administration who managed to put together CNU's preconference schedule for us d3 fans.


they do it every year....i now have grey hair!!

my weekend has started!!!! fantasy draft just concluded.......a day off tomorrow....then off to Texas!!!!! This weekend will be a blast!!!!
Here are the details on the stadium.
  http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/stadium.php?id=163

Thanks for the info Bob....I'm gonna be a fan on this and just hitch rides provided by CNU.....I figured if they can get the players to the game....they can probably figure out how to get me there, too!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 06:17:23 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on September 06, 2007, 05:38:09 PM
Ill be listening to the game on my laptop, CNU85. Hope you guys have a safe trip tomorrow and dont have too much fun in Texas. I hear the radio crew may end up at the Ballpark At Arlington, or whatever that place is called now, Friday night.

Thanks RTT.......I see CNU is hosting a donor dinner Friday night.....so I told FT and Coop to do whatever without me. I though they were going to try and sneak in a HS footbal game.

I'm not sure what I'll do after the dinner, maybe grab someone and  (as they might say in Texas -  "find a waterin' hole"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 06, 2007, 07:08:23 PM
ACL tears are no fun at all and the rehab sucks even worse!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on September 06, 2007, 09:22:11 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 06:13:52 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 06, 2007, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 05, 2007, 11:52:14 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 05, 2007, 10:23:13 PM
Cudos to the staff and administration who managed to put together CNU's preconference schedule for us d3 fans.


they do it every year....i now have grey hair!!

my weekend has started!!!! fantasy draft just concluded.......a day off tomorrow....then off to Texas!!!!! This weekend will be a blast!!!!
Here are the details on the stadium.
  http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/stadium.php?id=163

Thanks for the info Bob....I'm gonna be a fan on this and just hitch rides provided by CNU.....I figured if they can get the players to the game....they can probably figure out how to get me there, too!!
I did it for myself.  Last year I had to ask a pizza delivery guy for directions. :-[
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 10:10:42 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 06, 2007, 09:22:11 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 06:13:52 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 06, 2007, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 05, 2007, 11:52:14 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 05, 2007, 10:23:13 PM
Cudos to the staff and administration who managed to put together CNU's preconference schedule for us d3 fans.


they do it every year....i now have grey hair!!

my weekend has started!!!! fantasy draft just concluded.......a day off tomorrow....then off to Texas!!!!! This weekend will be a blast!!!!
Here are the details on the stadium.
  http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/stadium.php?id=163

Thanks for the info Bob....I'm gonna be a fan on this and just hitch rides provided by CNU.....I figured if they can get the players to the game....they can probably figure out how to get me there, too!!
I did it for myself.  Last year I had to ask a pizza delivery guy for directions. :-[

pepperoni??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 07, 2007, 09:21:59 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 10:10:42 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 06, 2007, 09:22:11 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 06:13:52 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 06, 2007, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 05, 2007, 11:52:14 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 05, 2007, 10:23:13 PM
Cudos to the staff and administration who managed to put together CNU's preconference schedule for us d3 fans.


they do it every year....i now have grey hair!!

my weekend has started!!!! fantasy draft just concluded.......a day off tomorrow....then off to Texas!!!!! This weekend will be a blast!!!!
Here are the details on the stadium.
  http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/stadium.php?id=163

Thanks for the info Bob....I'm gonna be a fan on this and just hitch rides provided by CNU.....I figured if they can get the players to the game....they can probably figure out how to get me there, too!!
I did it for myself.  Last year I had to ask a pizza delivery guy for directions. :-[

pepperoni??

Talking about food here now, what is everyone's favorite tailgating food, ever been to a game where you had anything unusual.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 07, 2007, 09:41:49 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 07, 2007, 09:21:59 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 10:10:42 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 06, 2007, 09:22:11 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 06:13:52 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 06, 2007, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 05, 2007, 11:52:14 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 05, 2007, 10:23:13 PM
Cudos to the staff and administration who managed to put together CNU's preconference schedule for us d3 fans.


they do it every year....i now have grey hair!!

my weekend has started!!!! fantasy draft just concluded.......a day off tomorrow....then off to Texas!!!!! This weekend will be a blast!!!!
Here are the details on the stadium.
  http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/stadium.php?id=163

Thanks for the info Bob....I'm gonna be a fan on this and just hitch rides provided by CNU.....I figured if they can get the players to the game....they can probably figure out how to get me there, too!!
I did it for myself.  Last year I had to ask a pizza delivery guy for directions. :-[

pepperoni??

Talking about food here now, what is everyone's favorite tailgating food, ever been to a game where you had anything unusual.

     Cheese Doodles, Chitterlings with Hellfire Hot Sauce, and Pabst Blue Ribbon!!  Yum...Yum.  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 07, 2007, 09:56:06 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 07, 2007, 09:21:59 AMTalking about food here now, what is everyone's favorite tailgating food, ever been to a game where you had anything unusual.
Not that unusual, especially in the eastern part of NC and SC, but one of the best tailgates to which I was invited had a seafood boil.  Take a big propane cooker (such as the size that will deep-fry an entire turkey) and add Old Bay seafood seasoning, shrimp, small red new potatoes, corn on the cob, onions, Andouille sausage, celery, carrots, etc. and boil until all are tender.  Then put a big piece of waxed paper on a picnic table and just let folks pick and choose what they want.  With cold "beverages", a few great desserts and a good football game, it was a fine day!  The day I remember was a perfect mid-October day and a great 42-38 come-from-behind homecoming victory by South Carolina (QB was Anthony Wright, back-up for NY Giants) over Kentucky (QB was Tim Couch).  It was a memorable day - for food and for football!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 07, 2007, 01:44:28 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 07, 2007, 09:56:06 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 07, 2007, 09:21:59 AMTalking about food here now, what is everyone's favorite tailgating food, ever been to a game where you had anything unusual.
Not that unusual, especially in the eastern part of NC and SC, but one of the best tailgates to which I was invited had a seafood boil.  Take a big propane cooker (such as the size that will deep-fry an entire turkey) and add Old Bay seafood seasoning, shrimp, small red new potatoes, corn on the cob, onions, Andouille sausage, celery, carrots, etc. and boil until all are tender.  Then put a big piece of waxed paper on a picnic table and just let folks pick and choose what they want.  With cold "beverages", a few great desserts and a good football game, it was a fine day!  The day I remember was a perfect mid-October day and a great 42-38 come-from-behind homecoming victory by South Carolina (QB was Anthony Wright, back-up for NY Giants) over Kentucky (QB was Tim Couch).  It was a memorable day - for food and for football!  :)
i've always called that frogmore stew...and it's unbelievably good...throw some clams and or mussels into the mix, and it makes it PERFECT...i've always made it on the stove, though...never thought about 'gaiting with it...hmm

a few years ago the parents of mu student (and former jv football player) tim evans cooked a whole pig for one game, and on another day made this incredible chicken & rice stew...they basically let anyone and everyone eat...it was very generous and VERY good - there is supposed to be an organized tailgate for monarch fans on saturday called the "monarch zone"...i plan to check it out and see what's doing

all this talk about food as i try to swallow my same old turkey sandwich :)

had a dream last night that michael myers from halloween broke into my house...he was wearing a maroon #16 jersey and attacking me with thrown footballs...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 07, 2007, 02:00:32 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 06, 2007, 07:08:23 PM
ACL tears are no fun at all and the rehab sucks even worse!!!

I have had both of mind replaced and you are right the rehab is tough. It will take lots of hard work on his part and patience. If he works hard and doesn't give up, he can be ready next season. Hope he has a good sports doctor and not one of the normal othro guys that hasn't a clue what they are doing with ACL's.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 07, 2007, 02:04:02 PM
We did the shrimp thing last year in Danville and damn near had the entire parking lot standing in line for some. Amazing what a little old bay and a good breeze will do.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 07, 2007, 02:19:43 PM
Quote from: narch on September 07, 2007, 01:44:28 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 07, 2007, 09:56:06 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 07, 2007, 09:21:59 AMTalking about food here now, what is everyone's favorite tailgating food, ever been to a game where you had anything unusual.
Not that unusual, especially in the eastern part of NC and SC, but one of the best tailgates to which I was invited had a seafood boil.  Take a big propane cooker (such as the size that will deep-fry an entire turkey) and add Old Bay seafood seasoning, shrimp, small red new potatoes, corn on the cob, onions, Andouille sausage, celery, carrots, etc. and boil until all are tender.  Then put a big piece of waxed paper on a picnic table and just let folks pick and choose what they want.  With cold "beverages", a few great desserts and a good football game, it was a fine day!  The day I remember was a perfect mid-October day and a great 42-38 come-from-behind homecoming victory by South Carolina (QB was Anthony Wright, back-up for NY Giants) over Kentucky (QB was Tim Couch).  It was a memorable day - for food and for football!  :)
i've always called that frogmore stew...and it's unbelievably good...throw some clams and or mussels into the mix, and it makes it PERFECT...i've always made it on the stove, though...never thought about 'gaiting with it...hmm

a few years ago the parents of mu student (and former jv football player) tim evans cooked a whole pig for one game, and on another day made this incredible chicken & rice stew...they basically let anyone and everyone eat...it was very generous and VERY good - there is supposed to be an organized tailgate for monarch fans on saturday called the "monarch zone"...i plan to check it out and see what's doing

all this talk about food as i try to swallow my same old turkey sandwich :)

had a dream last night that michael myers from halloween broke into my house...he was wearing a maroon #16 jersey and attacking me with thrown footballs...
Too funny, narch.  lol

I've heard it called "frogmore stew" as well, but seafood boil is the term I use.  I'm with you on the clams and mussels - this meal is hard to beat!

There are two players on Guilford's football team from Hayesville, NC, which is in Clay County way out on the Georgia border in the southwestern part of the state (just a few miles east of Murphy).  There used to be four players, so there has always been a big contingent that travels to all Guilford home games and most away games.  They have a set parking spot behind Dana Auditorium and set up on the grass next to the lot.  These fans put on quite a spread and I've been honored to dine with them more than once.  My nephew was the starting center on Hayesville's state 1A championship basketball team in 2004, so everyone knows my family.  They're good folks and love their sports - drop by and say hello if you're at a Guilford game this fall.  By the way, my nephew Joseph starts for the Brevard College basketball team if any of you want to follow him on the internet or get a chance to watch him in person.  I'm biased, of course, but he is pretty good!  :)

Narch, I couldn't help but laugh about the attack in your dream.  I think Vogelbach may launch at least 40 tomorrow!  lol  If you're at the game, please say hello.  I hope to be there early for a short tailgate.  I'm driving a gray '04 4Runner (Toyota says titanium lol) with a Guilford frame around the back license plate. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 07, 2007, 07:11:30 PM
couple of years ago I skewered shrimp and steak, teiyaki style. I did someting with potatoes in foil, but I can't remember what I did......damn this getting old sucks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 07, 2007, 09:02:33 PM
Whenever we go to the races we always take about 5 of those propane cookers and cook an array of seafood.  We'll have everything from fried shrimp, flounder, trout, oysters, clambake, oysters, hushpuppies ... needless to say we always draw a good crowd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 07, 2007, 11:25:20 PM
Texas is grest so far....treatment by hotel is top notch. Steak house was SUPERB!!!

Tomorrow will be a total blast.....brunch with team...chill.....tailgate at 4...a game between two top teams........late evening game at that......ok, it could get better...I could go to the stadium tomorrow and see a Stone Station sign!!!

it don't get better than this!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 08, 2007, 07:41:25 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 07, 2007, 11:25:20 PM
Texas is grest so far....treatment by hotel is top notch. Steak house was SUPERB!!!

Tomorrow will be a total blast.....brunch with team...chill.....tailgate at 4...a game between two top teams........late evening game at that......ok, it could get better...I could go to the stadium tomorrow and see a Stone Station sign!!!

it don't get better than this!!
Glad to hear your trip is going so well.  Go Captains!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 08, 2007, 08:59:56 AM
I have watched and enjoyed this board for the past four years and decided NCWC needs more support. You guys are all great! Probably a little older than the rest of you. If you remember Roman Gabriel, I played High School Football against him. That shoud give you an idea! Look forward to having some fun!

  Go NCWC!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 08, 2007, 10:03:06 AM
welcome aboard old ref!

a short preview (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=271828) of the quakers/monarchs from the fayetteville observer


my prediction for today...lots of balls thrown in the air by #16...hopefully some of them end up in the hands of the guys with green jerseys and few end up in the end zone

this is a tall order for a very young secondary - the defensive front for the monarchs needs to cause havoc and the back needs to limit big plays and make tackles - on offense, the monarchs need to hold the ball and keep the quakers from having a short field - should be a fun game to watch

go monarchs!

p.s. - 'nova, i'll be looking for you at the game...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 08, 2007, 10:22:05 AM
Thanks Narch, and good luck to the Monarchs and all the USA South guys!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on September 08, 2007, 12:27:52 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 06, 2007, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 06, 2007, 10:19:15 AM
The Winchester Star had an article today about the up coming game against BC.  "Shenandoah coach Paul Barnes said the offense, which started five sophomores (against CUA), might have been feeling some nerves."It's just that trust factor," Barnes said. "The more you play, the better the trust factor is. That just comes from time. We'll be better this week with it, we'll be better next week after it, and then you gain that confidence and you go."By Robert Niedzwiecki The Winchester Star
http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=881

I hope the Defense can hold it together like they did last week. Its a long shot, but if the Hornet D can keep things close, maybe just maybe a miracle can happen.  :-\





I trust BC will win this game with no problem!!
I hope that you have a fantastic time in Texas.  Maybe I'll get there one day.  Hope you will make All Virginia proud by cheering your team to a win down there!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on September 08, 2007, 12:32:09 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 07, 2007, 02:04:02 PM
We did the shrimp thing last year in Danville and damn near had the entire parking lot standing in line for some. Amazing what a little old bay and a good breeze will do.
I prefer to use Zatarins instead of Old Bay and crawfish, but other than that it sounds scrumptious!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on September 08, 2007, 12:37:46 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 07, 2007, 11:25:20 PM
Texas is grest so far....treatment by hotel is top notch. Steak house was SUPERB!!!

Tomorrow will be a total blast.....brunch with team...chill.....tailgate at 4...a game between two top teams........late evening game at that......ok, it could get better...I could go to the stadium tomorrow and see a Stone Station sign!!!

it don't get better than this!!
Stone Station will be thinking positive thoughts about you as we tailgate and have communion, CNU85.  Look hard and you will see the flutter of the Stone Station flag on the horizon.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 08, 2007, 04:33:33 PM
Narch
What did you see today
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 08, 2007, 04:59:38 PM
NCWC.......mistakes....mistakes.....mistakes.  For a team that has the talent to be 2-0, it did not show up today...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 08, 2007, 05:25:25 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 08, 2007, 04:33:33 PM
Narch
What did you see today
97 points, 900+ yards of offense, one of the most entertaining college football games i've ever attended and a GREAT qb...

monarchs lose 50-47...if i remember correctly from the post-game show, vogelbach went 40-60 for 414, 4 td's and 2 int's - mike hill ran 33 times for 184 and 4 scores - the monarchs missed 2 xp's and one 2 point conversion...

on  the first drive of the game, mike hill took 2 plays to put the ball into the endzone, but the xp went into an ol's backside...guilford answered to go up 7-6 and then the monarchs put 2 td's and stopped guilford to go up 20-7...then #16 went to work...before it was all said and done, he had guilford up 36-26 at the half - he went 25-35 with 282 yards in the first half

the monarchs made things exciting and made some nice defensive adjustments at half-time (i wish they had made those adjustments in the 2nd quarter...would've been a different ball game, i think) and got some  big plays in the passing/return game - i thought gcq had clearly iced it when they got a score to go up 10 with about 1:30 left, but mularski returned the opening kickoff to the gcq 20, or so, and the monarchs punched it in and got the xp (the frosh kicker in the 2nd half, morales, looked pretty good) to go down 3 with a little over a minute to play and 2 to's - the quakers ran for 2 yards, monarch to - then, inexplicably/incredibly/against-all-odds, the quakers passed the ball on 2nd down......unfortunately, it was complete, and pretty much iced the game - there is no way gcq would have run for a first down against the monarch defense in that situation, and mu would have got the ball with about 35 seconds left and a CHANCE...

vogelbach is amazing...he puts the ball EXACTLY where it needs to be and delivers it with just the right touch...very aware in the pocket and very poised...mu WILL NOT see a team with a qb anywhere near as good as him for the rest of the year, period - the young db's were not so good in the first half, and better in the second half, but overall i think they'll be alright as they mature...they got better as the game wore on, and the monarch coaching staff seemed to be more comfortable with allowing them to play tight
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 08, 2007, 05:28:56 PM
Sounds like it was a great game to watch even if the Monarchs didn't come out on top.  How did MU's QB look narch?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 08, 2007, 05:31:07 PM
brandon parks had a really nice game, going 11-18 for 194, 2 td's and 1 int - he made a few nice runs, as well...missed a couple of reads where guys were open, but he'll get better and he'll start to see more of the field as the season progresses - the monarch receivers looked really good - doleman got behind the defender on a couple of occassions, mularski looked really good returning kicks and is a nasty blocker on the edge and frosh brian hopkins caught everything thrown his way, including a spectacular catch on 3rd down that kept a drive going for a td and also caught his first collegiate td...he could be a really nice find for the monarchs

crowd was very good, the pig-picking tailgate was AWESOME, the pep band sounded great, the cheerleaders and monarch maniachs did their thing and the stadium was in the best shape i've ever seen it...other than no monarch "w" and missing out on talking to hasanova, it was a PERFECT day of college football
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 08, 2007, 05:49:00 PM
Certainly seems like the offense will be able to put some points on the board this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 08, 2007, 07:16:44 PM
Narch and Papi
Sorry you guys lost and it looks like one guy does make a difference....sometimes

Papi
Keep the bow in the wind (I think) with Gabirille (sp). In other words if somebody goes out........... leave em. They were told
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 08, 2007, 07:23:20 PM
UNCP 26 GC 20, outside one big running play the defense looked solid for GC. Two blocked punts for GC in the game, not sure if that is something to look for out of GC or not this year. Offense was able to move the ball at times, but just not enough at the end.  I think they are better than last year. Narch if GC's defense played the way they did today, they will not lose to Gallaudet.

The NCWC game turned out exactly how I thought it would.  E&H also like Widener has a whole two weeks to prepare for NCWC. For those that are still thinking that NCWC will still win the conference, well they still can, but in my mind they are looking at best now 7-3 (the trip to CNU is another loss)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 08, 2007, 07:30:17 PM
Quote from: narch on September 08, 2007, 10:03:06 AM
welcome aboard old ref!

a short preview (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=271828) of the quakers/monarchs from the fayetteville observer


my prediction for today...lots of balls thrown in the air by #16...hopefully some of them end up in the hands of the guys with green jerseys and few end up in the end zone

this is a tall order for a very young secondary - the defensive front for the monarchs needs to cause havoc and the back needs to limit big plays and make tackles - on offense, the monarchs need to hold the ball and keep the quakers from having a short field - should be a fun game to watch

go monarchs!

p.s. - 'nova, i'll be looking for you at the game...
Thanks, Narch.  I left home about 10:20 am.  I was there - sorry I missed you!  See my report on the ODAC page - thanks for posting yours.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 08, 2007, 08:00:19 PM
     Big win for the Fighting Scots today. One I felt would set the tone for the season. Ok Scots, make me look good with my prediction.
     Anyone see the game today? Not sure how good Centre is but a W on the road is always a good thing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 08, 2007, 08:22:59 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 08, 2007, 07:23:20 PM
UNCP 26 GC 20, outside one big running play the defense looked solid for GC. Two blocked punts for GC in the game, not sure if that is something to look for out of GC or not this year. Offense was able to move the ball at times, but just not enough at the end.  I think they are better than last year. Narch if GC's defense played the way they did today, they will not lose to Gallaudet.

The NCWC game turned out exactly how I thought it would.  E&H also like Widener has a whole two weeks to prepare for NCWC. For those that are still thinking that NCWC will still win the conference, well they still can, but in my mind they are looking at best now 7-3 (the trip to CNU is another loss)


Based on what I saw today, if the Bishops continue to spot 17 points before they decide to play, I will have to agree with you. It is one thing to  struggle against a good team, but if you turn it over enough times, you are going to get beat. Don't get me wrong, Widener has a very good football team. I was impressed with their quarterback and especially their poise. At this time in the season, the Bishops are not consistant, especially with the play at the quarterback position. Unfortunately, I do not think the play  by a few represented senior maturity today.  As I said, you may be right, but I will say, if they get it together, they will be a tough bunch to defeat.
My congratulations to Widener, they deserved to win today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 08, 2007, 09:43:04 PM
mu/gcq game story (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/guilford0908.htm) and box score (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/2007%20Stats/MUF0908.HTM)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 08, 2007, 10:20:42 PM
Not a good Saturday for the USASouth, only 1 win, i believe.  Better luck next saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BigCoachOnCampus on September 09, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
Hello Forum I am new to the place and hope will continue the posting from here on in, But can any body can give me any thing on how the offense is run in Shenandoah?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on September 09, 2007, 02:01:46 AM
CNU85,

I looked for you after the game. 

Sorry (in a way ;)) the game did not turn out to be the game we expected.  I hope everyone arrives home safely and you guys pull it together for next week.  Enjoyed meeting you and visiting with Gray Fox.  I wish I could have gotten there a little earlier for a better visit.

Good luck the rest of the season.

PS:  Just curious, I have heard a lot about the fan turnout and support at ya'lls stadium.  How did Belton compare?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 09, 2007, 02:40:22 AM
Well, I'm back...not sold that the Panthers will win another game, but at least we got one today. Oh well we will see what happens...After the Appalachain State Michigan game, anything is possible.  Does that mean Ferrum could beat Bridgewater?  Doubt it,  but I will always be true to the Black and Gold

Go FC!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 09, 2007, 07:35:57 AM
Quote from: BigCoachOnCampus on September 09, 2007, 12:28:00 AM
Hello Forum I am new to the place and hope will continue the posting from here on in, But can any body can give me any thing on how the offense is run in Shenandoah?

     Can't answer your question but welcome aboard.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 09, 2007, 09:09:39 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 08, 2007, 07:16:44 PM
Narch and Papi
Sorry you guys lost and it looks like one guy does make a difference....sometimes

Papi
Keep the bow in the wind (I think) with Gabirille (sp). In other words if somebody goes out........... leave em. They were told

"Ahhh...this storm ain't nuttin' more than one of dem dare ol' mullet blows son!!!"  ;D

Speaking of which ABN...did you see the score of the Mullet Bucket...chalk up another one for the boys on the East side of the county!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 09, 2007, 09:21:58 AM
This is a link to article in local paper about NCWC/Widner game.
This says it all




http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/sports/content/sports/index.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on September 09, 2007, 09:50:50 AM
Old Ref,was that you in the Reds cap and the umbrella up top at the
50 yd. line yesterday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 09, 2007, 10:03:12 AM
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Quote from: Smith Reed on September 09, 2007, 09:50:50 AM
Old Ref,was that you in the Reds cap and the umbrella up top at the
50 yd. line yesterday?


No, but I was sitting on the same row, across the aisle from him in the reserved section. Had a yellow shirt and White NCWC hat, listening to every thing the Widener coaches in the booth had to say.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on September 09, 2007, 10:23:35 AM
From any situation which occurs on the field on a given Saturday you must
find the positive, the kids at NCWC played one heck of a game on defense
the last 49 min. In 90 degree heat, they fought off Wideners charge. Coach
Ginn has always heavily substituted on defense in the early season. Yesterday
was no different; they came to play. Special teams and the offense need work.
The offensive line is missing some of the punch from previous years. Hopefully
that will come quickly.E&H the Bishops next opponent has a very poised QB
and an offese much like Widener(very patient and slow)but the scenarios are
set. E&H beat NCWC last year with questionable ref calls, E&H will have
2 weeks to prep for this game, the head coach came from Mount Union(we all
know who they are), and finally NCW's Coach Ginn is an alumnus of E&H.
Look for a good game with some bad blood in it. To Ball Boy, STOP HATING!!
0-2 is not the end of the world. The games still have to be played.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 09, 2007, 10:43:03 AM
Quote
Quote from: Smith Reed on September 09, 2007, 10:23:35 AM
From any situation which occurs on the field on a given Saturday you must
find the positive, the kids at NCWC played one heck of a game on defense
the last 49 min. In 90 degree heat, they fought off Wideners charge. Coach
Ginn has always heavily substituted on defense in the early season. Yesterday
was no different; they came to play. Special teams and the offense need work.
The offensive line is missing some of the punch from previous years. Hopefully
that will come quickly.E&H the Bishops next opponent has a very poised QB
and an offese much like Widener(very patient and slow)but the scenarios are
set. E&H beat NCWC last year with questionable ref calls, E&H will have
2 weeks to prep for this game, the head coach came from Mount Union(we all
know who they are), and finally NCW's Coach Ginn is an alumnus of E&H.
Look for a good game with some bad blood in it. To Ball Boy, STOP HATING!!
0-2 is not the end of the world. The games still have to be played.

I don't think Ball Boy is hating, he is just doing what we all do, voiceing his opinion.
I agree with you about the play of the defense. If NCWC lacks anything right now... it is consistancy in the offense. If they overcome that obstacle, they will be tough to beat. Will you be at the game next week? :)

As John Penn once said......"You cannot be honest, without offending soneone..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 09, 2007, 10:47:37 AM
fayetteville observer  (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=271903) article with video...pretty good coverage of the game

speaking of video, did anyone else watch the springfield/union game on d3cast last night...it was pretty awesome to see video of a regular season d3 game...great work pat & crew!  maybe the monarchs season will be interesting enough to get you guys down here for a broadcast :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on September 09, 2007, 10:50:04 AM
I"ll be there Old Ref. I'll look you up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 09, 2007, 10:59:21 AM
Quote
Quote from: Smith Reed on September 09, 2007, 10:50:04 AM
I"ll be there Old Ref. I'll look you up.


I will probably be sitting in the same place....but definitly on the top row
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on September 09, 2007, 11:04:21 AM
One other note, I would agree with Coach Ginn; it is the worst game I've seen
NCW play in 4 seasons and Ive seen over 20 games. To the young men at
NCWC that read D3FOOTBALL.com and this forum (and  I know for a fact that
coach does not encourage this) remember the GAME is played on the FIELD
and not in the PRESS!!   WORD!!!!!!   Let it be known.  GO BIG BLUE!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 09, 2007, 11:38:04 AM
I agree.....If I were coaching, I would not want my players reading this stuff either......bunch of "nuts" here...just kidding, ha..ha...ha..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on September 09, 2007, 02:38:24 PM
Quote from: roocru on September 09, 2007, 02:01:46 AM
CNU85,

I looked for you after the game. 

Sorry (in a way ;)) the game did not turn out to be the game we expected.  I hope everyone arrives home safely and you guys pull it together for next week.  Enjoyed meeting you and visiting with Gray Fox.  I wish I could have gotten there a little earlier for a better visit.

Good luck the rest of the season.

PS:  Just curious, I have heard a lot about the fan turnout and support at ya'lls stadium.  How did Belton compare?
I second that.  It was great talking to the two of you and the other CNU fans.  There were some great stories to pass on to certain people.

Thanks for including me in your tailgate food. :)

Good luck during the rest of the season.  Maybe there will be a replay during the playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 09, 2007, 04:46:59 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on September 08, 2007, 08:00:19 PM
     Big win for the Fighting Scots today. One I felt would set the tone for the season. Ok Scots, make me look good with my prediction.
     Anyone see the game today? Not sure how good Centre is but a W on the road is always a good thing.

Well at least Coach I has them winning ugly instead of folding up tents as has been the mo in the past. It was huge leap forward for the offense but still a a ways to go. Defense has now given up less than 60 yards rushing in 2 games on 70 plus attempts. One bust on a pump fake cost the Scots as it was the only TD of the year they've allowed, but it was fantastic execution by Centre there. Only time we saw that particular formation. (SEAC beware of the two wide to each side with one on and one off packed left shoe to right shoe against each other on hashes)
It is worth noting that Centre' all region linebacker Johnson was suspended and did not even dress. Adam Hay was still a beast for the Colonels with 13 stops but MC's sophomore backer Chewning wracked up 16 as all three starters finished with double-digits in the takedowns.
Oh yes and Lucas Wall  had a Willie Beaman moment after getting clocked on a 12 yard draw. At least he pulled back from the center and didn't dump on him so he gets half a style point there.

Game story
http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070909/SPORTS/70909015
Notebook
http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070909/SPORTS/70909004
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 09, 2007, 04:56:13 PM
And since we're getting closer to conference play where the wins and losses do matter more ...
This will be the second opportunity for some folks to make the trip to Murvul.

Since we're the longest drive for many if not all I'll put in a p[lug and say make a weekend of it. (Gatlinburg, Pigeon Forge  and Townsend are cloe enough to make the stay worth while, but then I try to stay over and see something new everytime I make trip for conference play)

If anyone (Greensboro, Ferrum, Methodist, Averettt) wants run downs on where to stay and not stay, eat, which tailgaters are worth visiting or how to avoid traffic problems from the UT games in getting to campus let me know game week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2007, 06:33:44 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 09, 2007, 02:38:24 PM
Quote from: roocru on September 09, 2007, 02:01:46 AM
CNU85,

I looked for you after the game. 

Sorry (in a way ;)) the game did not turn out to be the game we expected.  I hope everyone arrives home safely and you guys pull it together for next week.  Enjoyed meeting you and visiting with Gray Fox.  I wish I could have gotten there a little earlier for a better visit.

Good luck the rest of the season.

PS:  Just curious, I have heard a lot about the fan turnout and support at ya'lls stadium.  How did Belton compare?
I second that.  It was great talking to the two of you and the other CNU fans.  There were some great stories to pass on to certain people.

Thanks for including me in your tailgate food. :)

Good luck during the rest of the season.  Maybe there will be a replay during the playoffs.

Roo Cru and Gray Fox....thanks for stopping by. It was indeed good to meet the both of you. Sorry we couldn't talk longer. Part of it was due to the fact that I had to go set up my computer in the boradcast booth for the crew to check scores. There isn't internet access up there, so they used my computer since it has a sprint card. Gotta keep up with the scores.

Roo Cru - I spent the game in the radio booth - it has A/C!!! So, it was difficlut to tell exactly about the crowd....but here's my take:

1. the
UMHB students get into the game more than the CNU students. CNU students seem to be more reserved for some reason.

2. I haven't checked the box score for attendance but I would think that if UMHB and CNU draw 3,000 fans to a game, it will seem louder at CNU....our stadium is listed at 3,000 but has had 6,100 at one game and over 5,000 at others. Tiger Staidium holds about 9,000, so a crowd of 3,000 makes it seem a little empty.

The fans that were there were into it...again it was hard to really tell b/c the radio booth is totally enclosed in glass and you can't open a window....so it's muffled a little......except you can realy hear the student section!

comparison.......I think it's apples and oranges.

Good luck to the cru......the rest of the d3 world should take notice.....I've been watching d3 for 7 years now, NEVER have a seen a faster or harder hitting team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 09, 2007, 06:54:37 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 09, 2007, 04:56:13 PM
And since we're getting closer to conference play where the wins and losses do matter more ...
This will be the second opportunity for some folks to make the trip to Murvul.

Since we're the longest drive for many if not all I'll put in a p[lug and say make a weekend of it. (Gatlinburg, Pigeon Forge  and Townsend are cloe enough to make the stay worth while, but then I try to stay over and see something new everytime I make trip for conference play)

If anyone (Greensboro, Ferrum, Methodist, Averettt) wants run downs on where to stay and not stay, eat, which tailgaters are worth visiting or how to avoid traffic problems from the UT games in getting to campus let me know game week.

     I recommend the "quite side of the Smokies" in Townsend, TN.  ;)  G-burg and PF are a little too much tourist trap for my taste.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 09, 2007, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2007, 06:33:44 PM


Good luck to the cru......the rest of the d3 world should take notice.....I've been watching d3 for 7 years now, NEVER have a seen a faster or harder hitting team.


85,
     Welcome to TX football! After seeing Trinity in their hayday and UMHB the last 3 years I know firsthand how fortunate the Northern end of the South Region has been as a result of the penny pinching NCAA during the playoffs. Had there not been a TX sub-bracket in the first round of the playoffs each year, there would be a lot more than Texas high school football being played in TX in late November each year. That is a fact! ;)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2007, 09:11:20 PM
my only experience, prior to yesterday, with Texas football was last year's UMHB game at CNU. And we know how well CNU plays at home.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on September 09, 2007, 09:21:03 PM
CNU falls to #20 from #12.  That shows a lot of respect still exists for the Captains.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on September 09, 2007, 09:22:29 PM
Looking for a dining recommendation in Yorktown area.  (BBQ or steak)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2007, 09:45:59 PM
Steak.....Schlesingers in Newport News

BBQ - around here it's mostly pork.......Pierce's in Williamsburg ha the best, but it's more like a carry out place...not much of a sit down kinda place.

other good places....

On the Yorktown waterfront there is a good place...not real sure of the name...Riverwalk???

What's bringing you to town?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on September 09, 2007, 09:55:34 PM
Staying there Fri and going to game on Sat.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 09, 2007, 11:02:10 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 09, 2007, 09:21:03 PM
CNU falls to #20 from #12.  That shows a lot of respect still exists for the Captains.

CNU is still the favorite to win the USASouth in my mind.  It might be a little more wide open than what many of us orginally believed.

I think what CNU has done in the past has alot to do with thier ranking right now.

Although despite my belief that CNU will win the conference, I didn't think they should have been ranked preseason, but when they were ranked, they were in a good spot.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2007, 11:09:26 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 09, 2007, 11:02:10 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 09, 2007, 09:21:03 PM
CNU falls to #20 from #12.  That shows a lot of respect still exists for the Captains.

CNU is still the favorite to win the USASouth in my mind.  It might be a little more wide open than what many of us orginally believed.

I think what CNU has done in the past has alot to do with thier ranking right now.

Like beating Rowan in Week 1? Absolutely.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 09, 2007, 11:12:56 PM
CNU's pre-season ranking was #23, and the Caps were the 6th-ranked team from the South Region, and the first from the USA South.  (UMHB, Wesley, HSU, W&J, Trinity, then CNU.)

I don't think that you can consider the USA South any other way!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2007, 11:25:54 PM
I still think it's hard to figure out the bottom half of the rankings. MAny of the voters (most of the voters?) haven't seen the teams they are ranking. There's just too many. The pre-season ranking for CNU was generous. After beating Rowan, I would have ranked them somewhere around where they are now 20-25. After yesterday, I'm not sure about a ranking. As far as Rowan, I think more games are needed to figure out where they belong in the polls. It's difficult, at best, for the voters at the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2007, 11:30:52 PM
Quote from: TXMike on September 09, 2007, 09:55:34 PM
Staying there Fri and going to game on Sat.

You should try the seafood. I bet Riverwalk has good stuff.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 09, 2007, 11:35:08 PM
it's hard to say that ANYTHING has changed with cnu re: their status within the usasac...they traveled 2/3 of the way across the country to play a top 10 team...a lopsided loss to umhb does nothing to sway my thought that cnu is the team to beat in the usasac

the su defense must be pretty legit...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 09, 2007, 11:42:59 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2007, 11:25:54 PM
I still think it's hard to figure out the bottom half of the rankings. MAny of the voters (most of the voters?) haven't seen the teams they are ranking. There's just too many. The pre-season ranking for CNU was generous. After beating Rowan, I would have ranked them somewhere around where they are now 20-25. After yesterday, I'm not sure about a ranking. As far as Rowan, I think more games are needed to figure out where they belong in the polls. It's difficult, at best, for the voters at the beginning of the year.
CNU85, I enjoyed your post. I am glad you enjoyed your stay, too.  Your radio guys made a bad decision, not to take in a Texas high school football ballgame, 6-man, 11-man, whatever.

I think that you saw a new and improved UMHB.   In the South Region Fan Poll, I believe that UMHB is so far ahead of the region, that we cannot represent it in the balloting.

Good luck to y'all.  I think that the USASouth is a good conference, and may be slightly ahead of the ODAC this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 09, 2007, 11:49:27 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 09, 2007, 11:42:59 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2007, 11:25:54 PM
I still think it's hard to figure out the bottom half of the rankings. MAny of the voters (most of the voters?) haven't seen the teams they are ranking. There's just too many. The pre-season ranking for CNU was generous. After beating Rowan, I would have ranked them somewhere around where they are now 20-25. After yesterday, I'm not sure about a ranking. As far as Rowan, I think more games are needed to figure out where they belong in the polls. It's difficult, at best, for the voters at the beginning of the year.
CNU85, I enjoyed your post. I am glad you enjoyed your stay, too.  Your radio guys made a bad decision, not to take in a Texas high school football ballgame, 6-man, 11-man, whatever.

I think that you saw a new and improved UMHB.   In the South Region Fan Poll, I believe that UMHB is so far ahead of the region, that we cannot represent it in the balloting.

Good luck to y'all.  I think that the USASouth is a good conference, and may be slightly ahead of the ODAC this season.

     Not sure I agree. CNU may be the best team in both conferences but my feeling is top to bottom the ODAC is stronger this year. Guess we shall see.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 10, 2007, 12:06:23 AM
allsky7, after your comment, I looked at the records.

I think the performances of Maryville, NCWC and CNU seem stronger than E&H and BC, so far.

The Centennial looks very weak this year.

However, we can follow this one.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 10, 2007, 12:52:15 AM
Its been a busy week but I just had a minute to check this thing out.

Impressed that Methodist put up 47.

SU also looks like they are improving.

Greensboro, Qb getting some experience.   I coached in the east coast of nc and know the talent level is pretty high compared to the rest of the country.  Its a tough game to gauge how Greensboro played without seeing it.  My guess is that UNC pemprooke would be a .500 team in the USAC.

CNU,  Its tough to travel but it is good experience if u make it to the playoffs. 

Ferrum,  Way to early to tell onthem boys, but the option is run by the qb.

Mville, didnt know the comp

Averett, Mount will do it to you.

NC Wes,  Im glad they are starting slow...but, the tougher teams u play early the better u play late.


Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 10, 2007, 12:58:24 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 10, 2007, 12:06:23 AM
allsky7, after your comment, I looked at the records.

I think the performances of Maryville, NCWC and CNU seem stronger than E&H and BC, so far.

The Centennial looks very weak this year.

However, we can follow this one.  8)

     True...the Centennial may well be weak. As I stated in my post about the H-S/ Gettysburg game, I thought it was the best all around Tiger game in several years. BUT....we don't really know how good GC is. (or Hopkins or  other CC teams)
     My feeling is CNU is a good football team despite the spanking they took Saturday. If any team in the USA South or ODAC makes noise in the post season, it will likely be them. No dis intended to NCWC or other USA South teams but I am not sold yet. I will be happy to come back and face the music if things change in coming weeks. I'm sure there will be a few folks that will remind me also.  ;D I am tickled to death Maryville is 2 and 0. (first time 2 and 0 since 1985 when allsky7 was a Fighting Scot  ;) Unfortunately, after losing our star RB, we finished 3-7  :'()  A great win on the road at Centre Saturday but they were very fortunate with 6 TO's. A W is a W but I was a little discouraged after reading the write up. They will need a much better effort next Saturday against Huntington.
     Anyway, without getting long winded and breaking down all my thoughts, my post was a little science and a lot gut. I'm sure yours was more scientific than mine. Guess half the fun is the speculation and then watching it unfold. I am a graduate and fan of both conferences so it should be fun 8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on September 10, 2007, 07:32:17 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2007, 11:30:52 PM
Quote from: TXMike on September 09, 2007, 09:55:34 PM
Staying there Fri and going to game on Sat.

You should try the seafood. I bet Riverwalk has good stuff.

I'm from Texas, what the heck do I know about seafood??  BBQ or steak for me.  (And Mexican  but I am not even going to do that over there)   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 10, 2007, 07:38:08 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 09, 2007, 11:09:26 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 09, 2007, 11:02:10 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 09, 2007, 09:21:03 PM
CNU falls to #20 from #12.  That shows a lot of respect still exists for the Captains.

CNU is still the favorite to win the USASouth in my mind.  It might be a little more wide open than what many of us orginally believed.

I think what CNU has done in the past has alot to do with thier ranking right now.

Like beating Rowan in Week 1? Absolutely.

I thought in my mind the jump was too high after week 1 win.  They like Springfield have a "surface" in which they play better, and that is Pomoco. When CNU plays at home, they almost can't be beaten. Has CNU ever lost a conference game at home yet?

There I said it, CNU was overratted in the last poll. Near the 20-25 range is probably where they belong and those rankings are more within the realm of reality.  I didn't really think the game was going to be close, not because I didn't think the CNU is good, but because they were not going to be in the safe confines of Pomoco. I am not trying to rip CNU, because I still think they are going to win the conference.  I just didn't think they were going to beat UMHB in TX.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 10, 2007, 08:33:13 AM
Yes, no doubt exacerbated by the fact that so many ranked teams didn't play in Week 1.

However, to equate the "surface" at Pomoco to the home artificial turf of a team built to play on turf is overreaching. You could've learned more about Division III football if you'd picked up Kickoff.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 10, 2007, 09:16:06 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on September 10, 2007, 12:58:24 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 10, 2007, 12:06:23 AM
allsky7, after your comment, I looked at the records.

I think the performances of Maryville, NCWC and CNU seem stronger than E&H and BC, so far.

The Centennial looks very weak this year.

However, we can follow this one.  8)

     True...the Centennial may well be weak. As I stated in my post about the H-S/ Gettysburg game, I thought it was the best all around Tiger game in several years. BUT....we don't really know how good GC is. (or Hopkins or  other CC teams)
     My feeling is CNU is a good football team despite the spanking they took Saturday. If any team in the USA South or ODAC makes noise in the post season, it will likely be them. No dis intended to NCWC or other USA South teams but I am not sold yet. I will be happy to come back and face the music if things change in coming weeks. I'm sure there will be a few folks that will remind me also.  ;D I am tickled to death Maryville is 2 and 0. (first time 2 and 0 since 1985 when allsky7 was a Fighting Scot  ;) Unfortunately, after losing our star RB, we finished 3-7  :'()  A great win on the road at Centre Saturday but they were very fortunate with 6 TO's. A W is a W but I was a little discouraged after reading the write up. They will need a much better effort next Saturday against Huntington.
     Anyway, without getting long winded and breaking down all my thoughts, my post was a little science and a lot gut. I'm sure yours was more scientific than mine. Guess half the fun is the speculation and then watching it unfold. I am a graduate and fan of both conferences so it should be fun 8)

Just to add to what Allsky was saying about Maryville, it is also the frist time Maryville has beaten Centre in over 10 years.  They are just finding ways to win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 10, 2007, 09:51:48 AM
"surface" was used as a metaphor to say they play well at home, as does springfield when they play at home, which happens to be turf for Springfield. They play well at home is my point.  Considering not many ranked teams played in Week 1, there was no need for CNU to jump so much. Yeah they deserved a little bit of respect, but not that much considering they played at Pomoco.  Pat even you stated that playing surface affects how a team plays, CNU's surface is nothing special but the field/stadium has made teams slower/not as affective.  Just ask UMHB last year.  A CNU fan said UMHB was a fast team.  The speed was lost last year at UMHB.  Then again maybe losing so much on offense for CNU had something to do with it. That led some reservations in my part of why CNU was ranked preseason. I don't need to buy the Kickoff to know something about d3football (although I did plan on it, but decided to use that money towards my Olive Garden meal) Its only the second week, but what I have said so far has come true. So I will make more statements

Wesley will lose within the next 3 weeks. They travel to Widener this week, I believe it will be this week.  I'd say within the next three weeks Wesley will lose.

CNU will probably blow away Salisbury this weekend. I guarantee a win by at least 10 more points.

E&H game will be a good game this weekend, but I think NCWC will not pull out a win. If they do it will be late in the game.

I have mentioned other things in prior posts about teams from the USASouth, just read them to see my thoughts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2007, 10:24:12 AM
Pat, once again, Abraham Maslow's landmark 1943 paper A Theory of Human Motivation, has demonstated the accuracy of the Heirarchy of Needs.  Sadly, you now know d3football.com's Kickoff is not in the base physiological tier with food at Olive Garden.  :)  If Kickoff was more "affective", perhaps we'd all rather have draws, sacks and passes instead of breadsticks, soup and salad!  Ciao!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Matt Barnhart (kid) on September 10, 2007, 10:29:05 AM
Quote from: narch on September 09, 2007, 11:35:08 PMthe su defense must be pretty legit...

Hmm, that's a tough call.  Credit the Hornets for giving the Eagles another tough game, but Bridgewater still had 400 yards of offense, averaged 5.6 yards per carry, and our QB was 15-of-19 passing (no INTs).

The reason the score was 20-6 were the three fumbles inside the 25-yard line by the Eagles.  So I suppose it could have been a 37-6 or even 41-6 game had we not fumbled.

But all three fumbles were created by the SU defenders stripping at the ball.  They were made when the BC players were making a move in the open field.  So all credit goes to the SU defenders for creating the fumbles.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 10, 2007, 10:30:03 AM
I'm also impressed by the reiterative analysis that Wesley will lose in the next three weeks. We've been saying that since day one, noting their first five games were the equivalent of running the gantlet for a new quarterback starter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 10, 2007, 12:25:56 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 10, 2007, 10:30:03 AM
I'm also impressed by the reiterative analysis that Wesley will lose in the next three weeks. We've been saying that since day one, noting their first five games were the equivalent of running the gantlet for a new quarterback starter.

I didn't even need to buy a Kickoff, to draw that conclusion of Wesley.  If this QB is going to be going through the gantlet this season and knowing there is a new QB at Wesley, why are they ranked so high in the polls, when a loss is inevitable by the statement you just made about Wesley.  Thier loss will surely knock them down in the polls, therefore Wesley based on the current polls is overratted.

So where do I believe they should be?, around 15th in the poll. They are still the team to beat in thier conference until someone knocks them off, as is CNU.  Wesley should be ranked, where really, not 6th.

I think the poll for d3 is ok, and there will always be debates about any poll.  I for one never thought Michigan should have been ranked #5, they had a very young defense. That is a differnt story for a different board.  I trust the d-1 polls just as much as i trust the QOWI.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 10, 2007, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 10, 2007, 10:24:12 AM
Pat, once again, Abraham Maslow's landmark 1943 paper A Theory of Human Motivation, has demonstated the accuracy of the Heirarchy of Needs.  Sadly, you now know d3football.com's Kickoff is not in the base physiological tier with food at Olive Garden.  :)  If Kickoff was more "affective", perhaps we'd all rather have draws, sacks and passes instead of breadsticks, soup and salad!  Ciao!

Dang.....I didn't get all that. I always thought that was a children's story about someone's dog! Or was that his buddy Pavlov?  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 10, 2007, 02:33:24 PM
Saturday night I almost got that miracle I was hoping for. I wrote on here a few days ago that I hoped the Hornets would keep things close and perhaps a miracle would happen. Well no miracle but it was a very entertaining game. I was very impressed with how well SU played against a more powerful team. Barnes all of a sudden became pass happy in the 3rd quarter and as I wrote in the ODAC side a funny thing happened. The defending team was not able to jam the line and SU moved the ball down field. I hope he learned from this and we see more of him mixing things up in the future. SU is not going to win the conference this year as we all know but after looking at the team for two weeks I really think they could go 5-5. The defense is looking great. I'm very please with how they are looking so far in this young season. #41's son of BC sat next to me at the game. A great guy and I wish his son the best for the season.

The Winchester Star had a article on Saturdays game. "The current Shenandoah University football team probably doesn't remind anyone of the Hornets' teams that earned back-to-back co-conference championships in 2003 and 2004.That was a good thing Saturday night, because those teams never played Bridgewater College this tough." By Robert Niedzwiecki
The Winchester Star
http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=967

Also game pictures can be found on this web site. I emailed them this morning and they wrote back saying the pictures should be up some time this afternoon. http://www.whitepostsports.com/

I know things wont be any easier this week but I'm hoping the Hornets can make the home coming fans happy this weekend. GO HORNETS!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2007, 03:03:44 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 10, 2007, 01:26:27 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 10, 2007, 10:24:12 AM
Pat, once again, Abraham Maslow's landmark 1943 paper A Theory of Human Motivation, has demonstated the accuracy of the Heirarchy of Needs.  Sadly, you now know d3football.com's Kickoff is not in the base physiological tier with food at Olive Garden.  :)  If Kickoff was more "affective", perhaps we'd all rather have draws, sacks and passes instead of breadsticks, soup and salad!  Ciao!

Dang.....I didn't get all that. I always thought that was a children's story about someone's dog! Or was that his buddy Pavlov?  ;D
Hey, CNU85.  Pavlov and Maslow .... one caused dogs to salivate and one self-actualized at the top of a dogmatic pyramid. :)  Sounds as though both should have rested their dogs, eaten some hot dogs and watched eleven Bulldogs, Greyhounds or Terriers play with a pigskin!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 10, 2007, 03:36:23 PM
Polls are polls, they aren't fact much less carved by a deity each week - they are a tally attempting to show consensus of the voters. Its not perfect but like democracy its the best we've found so far for a regular season, though thank goodness we have a playoff that settles thing and not a BcS!

That said, if I had a vote (and I don't) I'd have put CNU pretty close to where they are now after the first two games. Not sure I'd have started them in the Top 25 preseason but they would have absolutely been in my top 30.

Pat do you give more of a road factor on your ballot when the trip is that long?

And for allsky and the Fighting faithful, heres the two cents from the MDT

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070910/SPORTS0104/70910020 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070910/SPORTS0104/70910020)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 10, 2007, 04:24:36 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 10, 2007, 03:36:23 PM
Polls are polls, they aren't fact much less carved by a deity each week - they are a tally attempting to show consensus of the voters. Its not perfect but like democracy its the best we've found so far for a regular season, though thank goodness we have a playoff that settles thing and not a BcS!

That said, if I had a vote (and I don't) I'd have put CNU pretty close to where they are now after the first two games. Not sure I'd have started them in the Top 25 preseason but they would have absolutely been in my top 30.

Pat do you give more of a road factor on your ballot when the trip is that long?

And for allsky and the Fighting faithful, heres the two cents from the MDT

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070910/SPORTS0104/70910020 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070910/SPORTS0104/70910020)

"Added to the LaGrange game, MC would appear to have one of the toughest run defenses in all of Division III allowing 59 total yards or 29.5 a game and a 0.6 yards gained per rushing attempt. It's the main reason the Scots have given up just one touchdown and four field goals this season" (from Maryville Daily Times )

     Not sure I would go there just yet.  :o No doubt encouraging though. Thanks for the link.

     Just curious battered....did you leave the c in BcS lower case on purpose to highlight the BS?  :D

     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 10, 2007, 06:29:43 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 10, 2007, 03:36:23 PM
Polls are polls, they aren't fact much less carved by a deity each week - they are a tally attempting to show consensus of the voters. Its not perfect but like democracy its the best we've found so far for a regular season, though thank goodness we have a playoff that settles thing and not a BcS!

That said, if I had a vote (and I don't) I'd have put CNU pretty close to where they are now after the first two games. Not sure I'd have started them in the Top 25 preseason but they would have absolutely been in my top 30.

Pat do you give more of a road factor on your ballot when the trip is that long?

And for allsky and the Fighting faithful, heres the two cents from the MDT

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070910/SPORTS0104/70910020 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070910/SPORTS0104/70910020)

I tend to give a little respect for a plane trip and I would bet the coaches on our panel do as well -- at least those who have ever taken their team by plane. But I give a little bit for any road game, and in many cases I won't even punish a team for a road loss.

Frankly, in many polls one would see a lower-ranked team take a significant dive when playing a higher-ranked team competitively but losing. Say No. 5 beats No. 11 -- why then drop No. 11 five or six slots? The poll was just proven right. There's no need to break it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 10, 2007, 07:52:45 PM
Special Teans Player of the Week for USASouth.  Good Job

Rod Hill, Greensboro - The Lumberton, North Carolina senior defensive back blocked two kicks, one punt and one point-after-touchdown, as The Pride fell to Division-II UNC-Pembroke, 26-20. Hill also amassed 88 return yards on four attempts. On defense, Hill recorded three tackles and one interception.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 10, 2007, 08:12:19 PM
Pride

I believe that NO ONE in the south has beaten Wesley the last two years !
To assume that Wesley will lose in the next three weeks and that merits them to be dropped to 15 or lower is rediculous.
  I myself have said that if they continue to give away points on offence they will be hard pressed to recover game after game. But the fact is both NCW and Del Val scored two tds apiece on drives of twenty yrds and less caused by fumbles.  And as we have seen the first two weeks nothing is carved in stone as to who will win and lose.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 10, 2007, 08:19:41 PM
CNU 85.....One fantastic article "I'll Be Ok, Coach" . Great read Very moving. If you haven't read it, You should. Excellent piece!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 10, 2007, 08:32:58 PM
Thanks Old Ref...I appreciate that!  So far I've written two blogs and try to include a human aspect on things....not just stats and results.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 10, 2007, 08:58:45 PM
Quote from: Old Ref on September 10, 2007, 08:19:41 PM
CNU 85.....One fantastic article "I'll Be Ok, Coach" . Great read Very moving. If you haven't read it, You should. Excellent piece!!!!!!
ditto
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 10, 2007, 09:08:17 PM
no offense to the hightower kid from m'ville, but how in the world does mike hill not get offensive player of the week?? - hightower had 22 carries for 136 and 2 td's...that's a REALLY nice week, but hill had 33 carries for 186 yards and 4 td's...that's better

d. lawrence racked up 15 solo tackles, 4 assisted tackles, 1 forced fumble and 1 broken up pass to get defensive player of the week honors for the monarchs...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 10, 2007, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: narch on September 10, 2007, 09:08:17 PM
no offense to the hightower kid from m'ville, but how in the world does mike hill not get offensive player of the week?? - hightower had 22 carries for 136 and 2 td's...that's a REALLY nice week, but hill had 33 carries for 186 yards and 4 td's...that's better

d. lawrence racked up 15 solo tackles, 4 assisted tackles, 1 forced fumble and 1 broken up pass to get defensive player of the week honors for the monarchs...

I agree Narch, Hill had a better game, he should have won it.  My only guess is MC won, but that shouldn't be an excuse.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: powerslant/2 on September 10, 2007, 11:48:20 PM
Yea I respect the poll rankings, a drop to number 20 is expected.  Because the win against Rowan a week ago, CNU was faced with the aspects of dropping out of the rankings or, moving up. CNU gain experience by playing a tough rank team on the ROAD, I mean on the ROAD too.  They will be better next time around, especially when they realize that the offense needs to move forward.  Hopefully that problem was resolve in the 4th quarter of the big lost against MHBU. CNU showed great progress, looking forward to a big change in the main speciality department next week. :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: powerslant/2 on September 10, 2007, 11:55:23 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 09, 2007, 11:02:10 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on September 09, 2007, 09:21:03 PM
CNU falls to #20 from #12.  That shows a lot of respect still exists for the Captains.

CNU is still the favorite to win the USASouth in my mind.  It might be a little more wide open than what many of us orginally believed.

I think what CNU has done in the past has alot to do with thier ranking right now.

Although despite my belief that CNU will win the conference, I didn't think they should have been ranked preseason, but when they were ranked, they were in a good spot.
Pridesports you answered your own statement,  Yes the reason why CNU has a preseason ranking is because they were picked 2nd to finish in the USA SOUTH and you said it, " you believe they will win there conference"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 11, 2007, 01:08:43 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 10, 2007, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: narch on September 10, 2007, 09:08:17 PM
no offense to the hightower kid from m'ville, but how in the world does mike hill not get offensive player of the week?? - hightower had 22 carries for 136 and 2 td's...that's a REALLY nice week, but hill had 33 carries for 186 yards and 4 td's...that's better

d. lawrence racked up 15 solo tackles, 4 assisted tackles, 1 forced fumble and 1 broken up pass to get defensive player of the week honors for the monarchs...

I agree Narch, Hill had a better game, he should have won it.  My only guess is MC won, but that shouldn't be an excuse.

Who did hill play just wondering.  It is late and I don't feel like looking it up :) 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 11, 2007, 06:05:09 AM
Hill played Guilford on Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 11, 2007, 06:47:39 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 11, 2007, 01:08:43 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 10, 2007, 09:17:08 PM
Quote from: narch on September 10, 2007, 09:08:17 PM
no offense to the hightower kid from m'ville, but how in the world does mike hill not get offensive player of the week?? - hightower had 22 carries for 136 and 2 td's...that's a REALLY nice week, but hill had 33 carries for 186 yards and 4 td's...that's better

d. lawrence racked up 15 solo tackles, 4 assisted tackles, 1 forced fumble and 1 broken up pass to get defensive player of the week honors for the monarchs...

I agree Narch, Hill had a better game, he should have won it.  My only guess is MC won, but that shouldn't be an excuse.

Who did hill play just wondering.  It is late and I don't feel like looking it up :) 

     Obviously, choosing the POW is based on more than just total yards or number of TD's. Winning the game is probably one of the criteria but I suspect there are others.  8)


     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on September 11, 2007, 07:41:44 AM
Hill had a very nice game on saturday against guilford. I watched the highlights from the game, and ill tell you something else, methodist has found an answer for someone chucking the rock around. Parks was on target, and very nice moving out of the pocket. He throws well on the run. This is a talented group of kids at MU and have the talent to win a lot of games this year if they all stay together. Hill ran nicely on saturday, he actually looks quicker than in recent years past. He hit the hole with a purpose on saturday. Mularski took the role from sands leaving as return specialist and sounds like he did a good job. Things are looking good for methodist, keep it up.
Title: POW
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2007, 09:03:14 AM
Well, I think the conference offices like to spread POW around a little as well.  For the most part, I don't have a problem with that - stats alone do not capture the true complexion of every performance.  Guilford's QB Vogelbach, for example, will probably put up POW-caliber numbers almost every week, but he will not win POW every week - even in games his team wins.  I do bet, however, he'll earn POW this season more times than anyone else.  :)
Title: Re: POW
Post by: allsky7 on September 11, 2007, 09:35:42 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 11, 2007, 09:03:14 AM
Well, I think the conference offices like to spread POW around a little as well.  For the most part, I don't have a problem with that - stats alone do not capture the true complexion of every performance.  Guilford's QB Vogelbach, for example, will probably put up POW-caliber numbers almost every week, but he will not win POW every week - even in games his team wins.  I do bet, however, he'll earn POW this season more times than anyone else.  :)

     Good points Hasa. I hadn't even though about spreading the love around some. There are many different ways you can look at this award. Should expectations be a criteria? The expectation is that Vogelbach will put up big numbers every week. Perhaps in a situation like at H-S with the suspensions, Sedlar stepping in a producing is huge to the Tigers and their overall success. I suspect that the expectation initially was not very high for him. It will surely rise every week as his success (hopefully) grows. I'm of the opinion that it should be one of the criteria.
     What should the criteria be? I'd be willing to bet you could poll this board and come up with numerous opinions. I equate this debate to the MVP discussion we had some time ago.
     BTW...I had hoped to come down for the H-S game on the 22nd but unfortunately, I will be "roughing it" down at Nags Head fishing.  :o I am actually cutting my week a little short in order to come back to keep those Stone Station boys (and Olinemom too  ;)) out of Piedmont Regional Jail on the 29th when they play the Tigers.  :D :D
     Oops...this isn't the ODAC board is it?  :-[
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 11, 2007, 09:42:33 AM
Congratulations to Blake Campbell being named conference defensive rookie of the week. GO HORNETS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2007, 09:43:23 AM
allsky7 - Have a good time at Nags Head!  I think the GC/HSC game under the lights in Greensboro on the 22nd will be good one.  The Quakers need a break after the wild 47-45 and 46-43 outcomes (both in favor of the Tigers) the past two years!  Hopefully, I'll catch up with you at a game somewhere this fall.  

Regarding expectations:  I think you either have the best game of the week or you don't.  Hopefully, in my opinion, a player won't be penalized because he was expected to have good game.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 11, 2007, 10:12:22 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 11, 2007, 09:43:23 AM
allsky7 - Have a good time at Nags Head!  I think the GC/HSC game under the lights in Greensboro on the 22nd will be good one.  The Quakers need a break after the wild 47-45 and 46-43 outcomes (both in favor of the Tigers) the past two years!  Hopefully, I'll catch up with you at a game somewhere this fall.  

Regarding expectations:  I think you either have the best game of the week or you don't.  Hopefully, in my opinion, a player won't be penalized because he was expected to have good game.  

     Thanks Hasa!!
     Again, I think it depends on what criteria are used for determining the selection. Is the POW award to honor the player that has the best numbers period? Or is the POW to honor the player that made the biggest contribution to the success of his team taking into account his numbers (of course) but other factors as well? Sometimes the same person, sometimes not. Sometimes the guy with the big numbers will win the award because it may be the only standout perfromance of the week. Fair or not (maybe not) but I think that is the reality of it. Peyton Manning carries an enormous burden for the success of the Colts. Suppose Harrington for the Falcons has an outstanding performance but not quite on the level of Peyton's. Should he be given points for POW due to the situation in Atalnta and what his performance meant to the teams success? Interesting debate huh?  ;D
     Using the MVP debate....is the MVP the best athlete with the best numbers OR is the MVP the player you can least afford to lose? Sometimes the same person, sometimes not.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 11:26:52 AM
Allsky & Hasa

Take the discussion on POY further; should not have one period. Football is the ultimate team game and individuals should not be recognized. QB has good numbers because the OL and WR did their job as well as the QB did his ..... RB has good numbers only when the OL and FB do their jobs well.
My opinion..... no place in football for this stuff because it cannot be justified ....  QB's, WR's and RB's cannot perform well without a really good supporting cast and they should not continue to be idolized. Been that way forever... will always be that way .... but football is about blocking and tackling and controlling the line of scrimmage .... not about the resulting numbers from the success/lack of success up front.

I know this will develop into a pretty good debate !!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2007, 11:49:40 AM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 11:26:52 AM
Allsky & Hasa

Take the discussion on POY further; should not have one period. Football is the ultimate team game and individuals should not be recognized. QB has good numbers because the OL and WR did their job as well as the QB did his ..... RB has good numbers only when the OL and FB do their jobs well.
My opinion..... no place in football for this stuff because it cannot be justified ....  QB's, WR's and RB's cannot perform well without a really good supporting cast and they should not continue to be idolized. Been that way forever... will always be that way .... but football is about blocking and tackling and controlling the line of scrimmage .... not about the resulting numbers from the success/lack of success up front.

I know this will develop into a pretty good debate !!!!!!
Actually, I agree with you.  No "I" in "TEAM" as the old saying goes.  To your point, however, we've always revered QB's, WR's and RB's.  Quick, name ten linemen!  lol   It is a team game and has little or no place for individual awards, but, unfortunately, I think they're here to stay at all levels of sports.  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Snakehandler on September 11, 2007, 11:54:30 AM
There is a "ME" in team  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 11, 2007, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 11:26:52 AM
Allsky & Hasa

Take the discussion on POY further; should not have one period. Football is the ultimate team game and individuals should not be recognized. QB has good numbers because the OL and WR did their job as well as the QB did his ..... RB has good numbers only when the OL and FB do their jobs well.
My opinion..... no place in football for this stuff because it cannot be justified ....  QB's, WR's and RB's cannot perform well without a really good supporting cast and they should not continue to be idolized. Been that way forever... will always be that way .... but football is about blocking and tackling and controlling the line of scrimmage .... not about the resulting numbers from the success/lack of success up front.

I know this will develop into a pretty good debate !!!!!!

     Not sure that I agree that there shouldn't be any individual awards but your make valid points.  How many fewer yards would a certain Tiger RB have had without a good blocking back?  ;) IMO, any outstanding RB worth his salt will acknowledge his team as the source of his success. If he doesn't, just quit blocking for a few plays in practice. He will figure it out quickly.  ;D
     The POG was awarded last Saturday to the Tiger D. I thought that was right on. Especially, in light of the fact that the Tiger D has struggled a little in recent years. That is not saying the Tiger O (or individuals within) didn't have outstanding contributions. Heck, you put up 54, obviously someone had a good game. I think it just gives a little extra love to the D for an outstanding performance.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 11, 2007, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: Snakehandler on September 11, 2007, 11:54:30 AM
There is a "ME" in team  ;D

     There is also TEA in team. All this discussion has made me thirsty!!  :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2007, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on September 11, 2007, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: Snakehandler on September 11, 2007, 11:54:30 AM
There is a "ME" in team  ;D

     There is also TEA in team. All this discussion has made me thirsty!!  :D :D
Mate, don't forget TEAM is an anagram for MEAT (and mate lol)!  TEA is also an anagram for EAT, so Stone Station needs to fire up the charcoal ...  I am thirsty and hungry!  :)  Llama, how about some chicken and ribs with a big glass of iced tea!?  lol 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2007, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: Snakehandler on September 11, 2007, 11:54:30 AM
There is a "ME" in team  ;D
True.  MA is also, but she's a 3rd string TE and didn't make the TEAM ... too TAME.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 11, 2007, 12:44:13 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 11, 2007, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on September 11, 2007, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: Snakehandler on September 11, 2007, 11:54:30 AM
There is a "ME" in team  ;D

     There is also TEA in team. All this discussion has made me thirsty!!  :D :D
Mate, don't forget TEAM is an anagram for MEAT (and mate lol)!  TEA is also an anagram for EAT, so Stone Station needs to fire up the charcoal ...  I am thirsty and hungry!  :)  Llama, how about some chicken and ribs with a big glass of iced tea!?  lol 

     The BC crew sure has been quiet. I figured once the season started, they would roll. I've even thrown them a few bones and haven't gotten much response. Perhaps they are a tad nervous about this years Eagle squad. Or maybe they just have real jobs and real lives and can't play on the puter all day like allsky7.  ;) :D Believe it or not, I actually do work.  :o
Title: Re: POW
Post by: kickerdad on September 11, 2007, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 11, 2007, 09:03:14 AM
Well, I think the conference offices like to spread POW around a little as well.  For the most part, I don't have a problem with that - stats alone do not capture the true complexion of every performance.  Guilford's QB Vogelbach, for example, will probably put up POW-caliber numbers almost every week, but he will not win POW every week - even in games his team wins.  I do bet, however, he'll earn POW this season more times than anyone else.  :)

Is it possible that Hill's name should have been submitted to the conference folks by either the coach or the AD for nomination and it wasn't? Does anyone know if that is the process or not?
Title: Re: POW
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 11, 2007, 01:06:05 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 11, 2007, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 11, 2007, 09:03:14 AM
Well, I think the conference offices like to spread POW around a little as well.  For the most part, I don't have a problem with that - stats alone do not capture the true complexion of every performance.  Guilford's QB Vogelbach, for example, will probably put up POW-caliber numbers almost every week, but he will not win POW every week - even in games his team wins.  I do bet, however, he'll earn POW this season more times than anyone else.  :)

Is it possible that Hill's name should have been submitted to the conference folks by either the coach or the AD for nomination and it wasn't? Does anyone know if that is the process or not?

That's a good question, kickerdad, but from the press release that I got, Hill and Ferrum's Matt Lucas were the two other USA South nominees for offensive POTW (in addition to Hightower, of course).
Title: Re: POW
Post by: kickerdad on September 11, 2007, 01:15:29 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on September 11, 2007, 01:06:05 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 11, 2007, 12:47:06 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 11, 2007, 09:03:14 AM
Well, I think the conference offices like to spread POW around a little as well.  For the most part, I don't have a problem with that - stats alone do not capture the true complexion of every performance.  Guilford's QB Vogelbach, for example, will probably put up POW-caliber numbers almost every week, but he will not win POW every week - even in games his team wins.  I do bet, however, he'll earn POW this season more times than anyone else.  :)

Is it possible that Hill's name should have been submitted to the conference folks by either the coach or the AD for nomination and it wasn't? Does anyone know if that is the process or not?

That's a good question, kickerdad, but from the press release that I got, Hill and Ferrum's Matt Lucas were the two other USA South nominees for offensive POTW (in addition to Hightower, of course).

Wow, makes you wonder.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU Backer on September 11, 2007, 02:51:11 PM
    Pridesportbballguy..........you guarantee a win? by @ least 10 points? Should Salisbury even get on the bus? I thought we were going to Va. not Alliance....LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 02:56:59 PM
AllSky

I did block for a certain All American RB, we were very close friends then and remain that way today.... has nothing to do with my thoughts on POY type of deals .... just that football is the ultimate team game .... the players know it and understand it ....most quality players are not seeking individual attention and would prefer not to have it on a week to week basis .... All conference/all american teams are good ... they recognizes the better players at every position .... not just the skill positions and are announced at the end of the season !!!! Mutual respect and understanding for what all positions contribute to a teams success is what all great teams have in common ... the media does not understand that nor do those pushing the week to week individual type of awards... as you mentioned early ... HSC player of the week was the defense, and it well should have been ... runner up and a very close second was the OL as they showed an unbelievable improvement from week one .... not casting aside individual performances just painting the whole picture as to why a RB, WR, QB will have big numbers on a given day.... TEAM WORK ...

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2007, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 02:56:59 PM
Mutual respect and understanding for what all positions contribute to a teams success is what all great teams have in common ... the media does not understand that nor do those pushing the week to week individual type of awards...

Why do you assume that? That's a big blanket statement that can't possibly cover everyone.

Even the great teams give out individual awards. If recognizing individuals' performances means that group cannot understand team success, that's a lot of groups you're calling out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 11, 2007, 03:27:24 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 02:56:59 PM
AllSky

I did block for a certain All American RB, we were very close friends then and remain that way today.... has nothing to do with my thoughts on POY type of deals .... just that football is the ultimate team game .... the players know it and understand it ....most quality players are not seeking individual attention and would prefer not to have it on a week to week basis .... All conference/all american teams are good ... they recognizes the better players at every position .... not just the skill positions and are announced at the end of the season !!!! Mutual respect and understanding for what all positions contribute to a teams success is what all great teams have in common ... the media does not understand that nor do those pushing the week to week individual type of awards... as you mentioned early ... HSC player of the week was the defense, and it well should have been ... runner up and a very close second was the OL as they showed an unbelievable improvement from week one .... not casting aside individual performances just painting the whole picture as to why a RB, WR, QB will have big numbers on a given day.... TEAM WORK ...



     I hear ya!! Good points.  The Heisman has turned into a joke. Maybe as much about who has the best PR machine as who is the best football player.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 04:45:39 PM
Pat

I don't think I really understand your question/point and I'm not calling anyone "out" as you stated.


AllSky

You are exactly right .... The Heisman is a joke to many people because it does not represent the best college football player of the year as advertised but in fact represents the best offensive player of the year that plays either RB,QB or WR.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 11, 2007, 04:56:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2007, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 02:56:59 PM
Mutual respect and understanding for what all positions contribute to a teams success is what all great teams have in common ... the media does not understand that nor do those pushing the week to week individual type of awards...

Why do you assume that? That's a big blanket statement that can't possibly cover everyone.

Even the great teams give out individual awards. If recognizing individuals' performances means that group cannot understand team success, that's a lot of groups you're calling out.

Pat I agree.

Would you really prefer that the news stories on a game not list any player by name? I mean its much easier to say a team rushed for so many yards and never say who rushed for what in what type of situation.
No one needs to know who caught or threw the ball because then a story would focus on individuals rathen than the teams. <please excuse the sarcasm dripping off my chin>
The game clinching play is what defines a game story most often, to not mention the players involved seems odd. Anyone who is a fan of the game knows that no one player wins a game but if you don't recognize the few you end up with a story so long no one would read it mentioning every player on every play (which is what the play by play stats are for) or a one sentence story saying who won and who lost.

On the subject I think Hill had a great game. The only reason I can see why Hightower got the nod was that his two scoring runs came in the fourth quarter and were the difference. The 22-yard run for the winning TD was probably more impressive to me than anything I saw from him last year. The only thing I have for a comparison is something out of Barry Sanders era. I'm not saying he's that way every down, but he was on that down. Does that say he has abetter game than Hill, I don't know because as far as I know the criteria is ambiguous and seems to vary between best statistical performance and best MVP type performance. (something I think we all agree are two totally different things) I do think that it will make it an even more fun game to watch when Maryville and Methodist play this year to see both of them play on the same field - knock on wood, assuming their both healthy in October.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2007, 05:03:35 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 04:45:39 PM
Pat

I don't think I really understand your question/point and I'm not calling anyone "out" as you stated.

I guess you should probably better explain your own point, then, because that's exactly what you are doing is calling people out.

Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 02:56:59 PM
Mutual respect and understanding for what all positions contribute to a teams success is what all great teams have in common ... the media does not understand that nor do those pushing the week to week individual type of awards...

Your own coaches push week to week individual type awards. How many locker rooms have I walked past with a coach-selected offense, defense, special teams and scout team player of the week? Shoot, about a quarter of our Team of the Week nominations come from coaches.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 05:33:21 PM
Pat:

I really don't know how to better explain my point .... I still don't see how my words can be offensive to anyone or how they might be "calling" someone out. The great teams have great teammates and have mutual respect for each other (my opinion)... understand how the efforts of their teammates contribute to wins and have respect for how the efforts of the entire team contribute to individual success(my opinion). I don't believe that great players care about individual awards as they are more concerned about the success of the team(my opinion). I also don't think coaches care much about them but in order to get players named to all conference/all american teams, they know they have to participate in those activities(also my opinion).

I'm not sure I can explain my position any differently. If you still have disagreement, that is fine. Each is entitled to their own opinion and can agree to disagree when those opinions differ .
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 11, 2007, 05:40:03 PM
While I agree that football is the ultimate team sport, I see no problem with individual awards being given out.  Every QB/RB knows that he is nothing without his O-line (or should) and every O-lineman knows that all his hard work in the trenches goes for nothing if the QB throws it in the dirt or the RB doesn't see the hole he has worked his butt off to give that RB.  

Think of the POTW as team awards that someone (yes, generally it is a position player) has to accept.  An O-lineman should take great pride in the fact that his RB was the POTW.  That RB should also realize he wouldn't be there without his lineman and should show his appreciation.  

For me it is much like the military when one guy gets an award because he was team leader for that particular operation.  I don't feel jealously towards him, I feel a sense of pride because I know that helped put that medal on his chest, and maybe a little joy knowing that I don't have to spend money to update my uniform  ;) .  I bet ABN's looks like a box of skittles with all that chest candy he's earned!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 05:45:30 PM
AdmiralPapi

I agree 110%. Perhaps you are able to better express your thoughts but your points match mine.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 11, 2007, 06:53:13 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 11, 2007, 05:40:03 PM
While I agree that football is the ultimate team sport, I see no problem with individual awards being given out.  Every QB/RB knows that he is nothing without his O-line (or should) and every O-lineman knows that all his hard work in the trenches goes for nothing if the QB throws it in the dirt or the RB doesn't see the hole he has worked his butt off to give that RB.  

Think of the POTW as team awards that someone (yes, generally it is a position player) has to accept.  An O-lineman should take great pride in the fact that his RB was the POTW.  That RB should also realize he wouldn't be there without his lineman and should show his appreciation.  

For me it is much like the military when one guy gets an award because he was team leader for that particular operation.  I don't feel jealously towards him, I feel a sense of pride because I know that helped put that medal on his chest, and maybe a little joy knowing that I don't have to spend money to update my uniform  ;) .  I bet ABN's looks like a box of skittles with all that chest candy he's earned!!!

     Interesting way of putting it. I think I like it. Course, an O-lineman better get joy in that because it's the closest he is likely to get to the POW honor.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 11, 2007, 07:10:59 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2007, 05:33:21 PM
Pat:

I really don't know how to better explain my point .... I still don't see how my words can be offensive to anyone or how they might be "calling" someone out. The great teams have great teammates and have mutual respect for each other (my opinion)... understand how the efforts of their teammates contribute to wins and have respect for how the efforts of the entire team contribute to individual success(my opinion). I don't believe that great players care about individual awards as they are more concerned about the success of the team(my opinion). I also don't think coaches care much about them but in order to get players named to all conference/all american teams, they know they have to participate in those activities(also my opinion).

I'm not sure I can explain my position any differently. If you still have disagreement, that is fine. Each is entitled to their own opinion and can agree to disagree when those opinions differ .

I guess it's because as a member of the actual media, I don't think the broad brush you paint everyone with is appropriate. I would've figured you'd have been able to tell that, considering it was the part I highlighted.

Yes. We all in the media are ignorant. Nobody understands anything. But yet, here you are on our site ...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 11, 2007, 09:04:18 PM
Flat out, Hill should have gotten player of the week for offense.  4TD's in one game is great no matter what level you play.  It was overlooked, because he deserved it.  Hill just go out there and play hard and you may be rewarded at the end of the year with POY.  Either way good job, O-Line too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 11, 2007, 09:07:24 PM
I can understand the view from both sides. After having played and then officiating for over 20 years, I came to realize that  each participant is going to have good days and bad days. I know as an ex ref, if one official had a bad day, the entire crew was usually demonixed. Thr rest of us understood that.The proof always came at the end of the season when individual performance was analized and those receiving the higher ratings were usually rewarded by receiving play off games. That did not mean that those not selected were any less capable, it only meant that a few demonstrated performance that usually refered to consistency and the individual coach's gradings. As you can understand, If your team received what the coach considered to be fair calling, then naturally you would receive higher ratings. I guess it all boils down to individual opinions......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 11, 2007, 09:29:11 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 11, 2007, 09:04:18 PM
Flat out, Hill should have gotten player of the week for offense.  4TD's in one game is great no matter what level you play.  It was overlooked, because he deserved it.  Hill just go out there and play hard and you may be rewarded at the end of the year with POY.  Either way good job, O-Line too.

     No argument on that point at all.  8)

   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 11, 2007, 10:08:43 PM
wow...2 pages of comments based on one little post...good stuff :)

there has been some fan perception around the league--it's been pushed on this board as well as the hoops and baseball board--that mu somehow gets special treatment from the conference officials because the conference offices are located in the riddle center on the mu campus - i wonder if somehow, on a subconcious level, this perception may have worked in reverse...is it possible that if 2 athletes have really good weeks deserving of recognition (which is the case with this particular award) and one plays for mu, that the perceived favoritism could sway the outcome of the award away from the monarch student-athlete? i don't think this is the case, but it is one of those things that makes me say hmmmm....

bottom line is this...the young man from m'ville had an outstanding week, and obviously positively impacted a scot win - mike hill had an outstanding game and helped keep the monarchs in the game against a very talented guilford team...both are outstanding players and deserving of any praise they get - my glasses are a bit green and gold tinted, so i personally think mike hill should have been given the nod (that and the fact that i'm pretty sure 186 is a lot more than 138 and 4 is double 2 :)) - as long as there are awards, there will be debate, and this has been, for the most part, healthy debate
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 11, 2007, 11:12:14 PM
Quote from: narch on September 11, 2007, 10:08:43 PM
wow...2 pages of comments based on one little post...good stuff :)

there has been some fan perception around the league--it's been pushed on this board as well as the hoops and baseball board--that mu somehow gets special treatment from the conference officials because the conference offices are located in the riddle center on the mu campus - i wonder if somehow, on a subconcious level, this perception may have worked in reverse...is it possible that if 2 athletes have really good weeks deserving of recognition (which is the case with this particular award) and one plays for mu, that the perceived favoritism could sway the outcome of the award away from the monarch student-athlete? i don't think this is the case, but it is one of those things that makes me say hmmmm....

bottom line is this...the young man from m'ville had an outstanding week, and obviously positively impacted a scot win - mike hill had an outstanding game and helped keep the monarchs in the game against a very talented guilford team...both are outstanding players and deserving of any praise they get - my glasses are a bit green and gold tinted, so i personally think mike hill should have been given the nod (that and the fact that i'm pretty sure 186 is a lot more than 138 and 4 is double 2 :)) - as long as there are awards, there will be debate, and this has been, for the most part, healthy debate

     I think it much more probable that the determination was made that Hightower's 2 TD's in the 4th Q were key in the Scots W. Yes, 186 is greater than 138 and 4 is double 2 but  6.3 yards per carry is greater than 5.6. It is also true that Hightower's 12 points is 55% of the teams overall total of 22. 24 is 51% of MU's 47 for Hill.
     Bottom line...the POW award is based on more than just pure numbers or Mr. Hill would have won the award. I think that is the way it should be. Some weeks pure numbers will win the award because there may not be another performance like Hightower's to consider. This is in no way a reflection on Mr. Hill. He had a great game. I'm sure he is a fine RB and will surely be rewarded for his performances down the road. Sometimes making this choice can be a tough call. I wish him the best. Except  on Oct. 27th. I will be at Honaker Field for HC pulling for the Scots. My chainsaw is serviced and ready to go if those trees planted on the Court St end of the field are going to mess up the tailgating.  :D
     For the record: I AM a former Fighting Scot so my glasses may be tinted a little too. BUT, I would still feel the same way if this situation were in reverse. Winning is the yardstick we use to measure success. It only makes sense then that if we are going to honor individuals for their performance, then the W should be an important factor that we consider.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 11, 2007, 11:29:05 PM
I wonder the same thing about the league office sometimes overlooking MU players in a close decision. But being said I think before the horse falls over dead from the beating we can all concede that Mike and Rommel had great games and I doubt either one really cares who got the award of the week.

AllSky suggest you pack the chain saw and get there early to start the cutting  :o

On a seperate question that isn't easily found in media guides or web sites, how many of the conference schools have the football team share the field with the soccer teams? I know Murvul has a seperate facility for soccer program.

Further side note abit off footbal but still on because of the MC dual conf. ties: Lambert has three USAC teams on the basketball sked this season including Averett twice. Noticing that trend on several other GSAC skeds, could the two conferences be purposely establishing closer ties? or is it just getting more convenient to go to the USAC to find teams willing to play?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 11, 2007, 11:53:55 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 11, 2007, 11:29:05 PM
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Further side note abit off footbal but still on because of the MC dual conf. ties: Lambert has three USAC teams on the basketball sked this season including Averett twice. Noticing that trend on several other GSAC skeds, could the two conferences be purposely establishing closer ties? or is it just getting more convenient to go to the USAC to find teams willing to play?
They are South Region D-III games and therefore more valuable than a Martin Methodist or a Pensacola Christian.

I still think that the GSAC is acquired by the USA South, and there will be no loss of AQ's. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 12, 2007, 06:01:19 AM
Not sure about others but I know Methodist has separate facilities for football and soccer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 12, 2007, 07:20:30 AM
I think we all know that GC football and the #2 soccer team(GC) in the country play at seperate fields.

Another thing with GC out of town, I will still get my d3football, I will be at the AU-Guilford game.  Who do I root for in this game? If anyone will be there, well let me know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on September 12, 2007, 07:38:41 AM
PAPI- I agree with what you said about being an O-Lineman. As O-lineman we look at things in perspective like this: If a back rushes for 200 yards, hes a great back. If he rushes for 15 yards, then your line is terrible. If a QB throws for 300 yards and doesnt even get touched, hes great. If he cant throw a lick, then his line cannot pass block. Playing OL is a non-rewarding job, but at the same time, we all take pride in knowing that if the RB or QB gets POW, we had a part in it. We had to do this at Methodist. Hill rushed for 1,000 yards in 2005, and chris threw for 2,000. None of us on the OL got any respect only giving up 4 sacks on 150 attempts all season.
       I am facing the same thing now as a coach. My Offense has 1007 yards rushing right now in 3 games. We have 121 points and only 12 of those have come throwing the ball. We run around here. But every week in the paper, they talk about how good the runningback is. That doesnt bother my players, because i told them exactly what i told you, that it takes a person who does not like to be in the limelight to play oline. But at the end of the game and you have 500 yards total offense, you can feel good cuz you know you had a hand in it.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on September 12, 2007, 08:57:45 AM
Pat

Never called the media ignorant nor even suggested that .... your words, not mine. We obviously disagree which makes for healthy debate but to suggest that I am name calling or suggesting the media at large is not informed is simply not accurate.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 10:25:33 AM
OK -- whatever. Two media members read your post and thought that was a shot at the media, so perhaps you could choose your words more wisely the next time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 12, 2007, 10:30:34 AM
The clock maybe ticking down for the Hornets being in the USAC. President Davis in today's SU school paper wrote in his column that at the next ODAC meeting of school presidents he will make a formal request to join the conference. Many here have thought this would happen. It has been no secret that SU has always wanted to get in the ODAC from day one of the football program. Chances are this will happen. Its just when is the only question.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 12, 2007, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 12, 2007, 07:20:30 AM
I think we all know that GC football and the #2 soccer team(GC) in the country play at seperate fields.

Another thing with GC out of town, I will still get my d3football, I will be at the AU-Guilford game.  Who do I root for in this game? If anyone will be there, well let me know.

Soccer and Football are played on the same field at Averett. (That includes Womens and Mens soccer) Therefore the field takes a beating. Averett is on the road the whole month of Sept and won't step on the field until Oct. Just think what condition the field will be in by then. ??? Plus I was told via the Grapevine that they were late getting grass sowed this year. When I saw the field 2nd week of August, it appeared to be greening up but looked very thin and tender in spots.

Pride.........go with your heart. If you feel like you need to pull for Guilford because of your Greensboro ties, do it; or pull for Averett and support the USA  South. Which ever, just have fun.

Hey, you might want to wear your Greensboro colors and get everyone's attention.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 12, 2007, 11:54:33 AM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 12, 2007, 10:30:34 AM
The clock maybe ticking down for the Hornets being in the USAC. President Davis in today's SU school paper wrote in his column that at the next ODAC meeting of school presidents he will make a formal request to join the conference. Many here have thought this would happen. It has been no secret that SU has always wanted to get in the ODAC from day one of the football program. Chances are this will happen. Its just when is the only question.
wow...i didn't see the odac for su coming...i thought maybe the cac, but i didn't see the odac...for the usasac and personally, i hate to see su go, so i hope this doesn't happen

i'd be willing to bet on some type of usasac/gsac merger if this goes through - the usasac doesn't want to be left in a vulnerable position if another member decides to leave...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 12, 2007, 12:00:41 PM
Does anyone know what the Stips are for getting into one confernce or another. If you go based on location, then its a "Cluster ____" For example Ferrum and Averett are right in the middle between Guilford and Bridgewater. Yet Greensboro is next door to Guilford. CNU is in line (up & down Interstate 95) with Methodist and NCWC, but an overnight trip away from Averett, Maryville, Shenandoah and Greensboro as well as Ferrum.

So it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other as far as travel and location. Has to be something else that drives the conference make up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 12, 2007, 12:27:36 PM
Quote from: narch on September 12, 2007, 11:54:33 AM
wow...i didn't see the odac for su coming...i thought maybe the cac, but i didn't see the odac...for the usasac and personally, i hate to see su go, so i hope this doesn't happen

i'd be willing to bet on some type of usasac/gsac merger if this goes through - the usasac doesn't want to be left in a vulnerable position if another member decides to leave...

CAC?  Do you mean the SCAC?  It's full, they wanted 12 schools and with Birmingham-Southern joining they have them.  Not to mention the travel costs would really be tough for a school with the relatively small financial resources SU has in comparison to the rest of the current SCAC membership. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wasper68 on September 12, 2007, 12:31:11 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 12, 2007, 12:00:41 PM
Does anyone know what the Stips are for getting into one confernce or another. If you go based on location, then its a "Cluster ____" For example Ferrum and Averett are right in the middle between Guilford and Bridgewater. Yet Greensboro is next door to Guilford. CNU is in line (up & down Interstate 95) with Methodist and NCWC, but an overnight trip away from Averett, Maryville, Shenandoah and Greensboro as well as Ferrum.

So it's 6 of one and a half dozen of the other as far as travel and location. Has to be something else that drives the conference make up.

I think academic strength is heavily looked upon especially in the ODAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 12, 2007, 12:45:33 PM
if su leaves the usasac, this is what i'd like to see happen:

usasac - averett (fb), cnu (fb), ferrum (fb), g'boro (fb), huntingdon (fb), lagrange (fb), m'ville (fb), mu (fb), ncwc (fb), piedmont

this would make for an 8 game conference football schedule for each member (just one additional game), and an 18 game conference hoops schedule (and most of the usasac teams are already playing a few games against gsac schools) - the schools in the new usasac would be asked to sponsor a team in each conference sanctioned sport (or at least those that would lose an aq with the defection of su), meaning the current gsac schools might have to add some sports, but i don't think that's necessarily a bad thing

great south women's college conference - mary baldwin, meredith, peace, salem, agnes scott, spelman, wesleyan (and they could invite sweet briar and hollins into the mix, as well)...ralph/pat, could this potentially give this conference aq status in a number of sports??

i think this would be a great solution for all teams involved if su opts to leave the usasac...the trip to huntigdon, m'ville and lagrange isn't really desireable, but neither is the trip to winchester
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 12, 2007, 12:49:49 PM
SU go ahead and leave, do what you think is best for you athletics.  I say let the GSAC join USASouth, it might keep that conference(basketball) tournament out of CNU.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 12, 2007, 12:53:57 PM
Quote from: wasper68 on September 12, 2007, 12:31:11 PMI think academic strength is heavily looked upon especially in the ODAC.
i think the word you're probably looking for here is reputation...there are many schools which are every bit as strong as most of the odac schools (take w&l out of this statement), but don't have the same reputation that the odac schools enjoy
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 02:40:46 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 12, 2007, 12:27:36 PM
Quote from: narch on September 12, 2007, 11:54:33 AM
wow...i didn't see the odac for su coming...i thought maybe the cac, but i didn't see the odac...for the usasac and personally, i hate to see su go, so i hope this doesn't happen

i'd be willing to bet on some type of usasac/gsac merger if this goes through - the usasac doesn't want to be left in a vulnerable position if another member decides to leave...

CAC?  Do you mean the SCAC?  It's full, they wanted 12 schools and with Birmingham-Southern joining they have them.  Not to mention the travel costs would really be tough for a school with the relatively small financial resources SU has in comparison to the rest of the current SCAC membership. 

CAC -- Capital Athletic Conference. Doesn't currently sponsor football, but would have enough teams if Shenandoah joined and Villa Julie added football. Frostburg State is also rumored to be a CAC candidate.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 02:43:00 PM
Quote from: narch on September 12, 2007, 12:45:33 PM
if su leaves the usasac, this is what i'd like to see happen:

usasac - averett (fb), cnu (fb), ferrum (fb), g'boro (fb), huntingdon (fb), lagrange (fb), m'ville (fb), mu (fb), ncwc (fb), piedmont

this would make for an 8 game conference football schedule for each member (just one additional game), and an 18 game conference hoops schedule (and most of the usasac teams are already playing a few games against gsac schools) - the schools in the new usasac would be asked to sponsor a team in each conference sanctioned sport (or at least those that would lose an aq with the defection of su), meaning the current gsac schools might have to add some sports, but i don't think that's necessarily a bad thing

great south women's college conference - mary baldwin, meredith, peace, salem, agnes scott, spelman, wesleyan (and they could invite sweet briar and hollins into the mix, as well)...ralph/pat, could this potentially give this conference aq status in a number of sports??

i think this would be a great solution for all teams involved if su opts to leave the usasac...the trip to huntigdon, m'ville and lagrange isn't really desireable, but neither is the trip to winchester

Yes, that could work.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 12, 2007, 02:46:59 PM
Here are this weeks game nots on the Hornets game this Saturday. http://www.su.edu/athletics/Football_gn.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 12, 2007, 03:29:36 PM
I got this article from poster Menowannalickee U., so a big kudos to him on first posting it on the ODAC side. Its a interesting article about Bridgewater having to find teams to play for open dates and brings up CNU and also mentions that the ODAC schools want to bring in another football school into the conference.
"Another problem, Clark said, is that conferences are growing, and with D-III teams still playing only 10 regular-season games, fewer schools have open dates. Coaches in the ODAC, Clark said, are becoming more interested in adding another football school for that reason. Now, with only seven football teams, each has to find four non-conference games, which hasn't been easy.("So many of us [ODAC coaches] have a difficult time with the schedule," Clark said. "... The only people out there that will play you are big public schools or open enrollment schools that will sometimes give you a difficult matchup.")" By Dustin Dopirak of the DNR
http://www.dnronline.com/sports_details.php?AID=12165&CHID=3

I think after reading this, its pretty clear SU will become an ODAC member.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 12, 2007, 03:31:34 PM
Well we knew someone would bolt soon, didn't see it being SU though.

If Piedmont, which would be a good fit, bolts from the GSAC to USAC then I think Murvul should follow as a full member. And it would be natural for the four women's teams in the GSAC to pursue a southern women's conference.
Leaves LaGrange and Huntingdon swinging in the wind but they must be looking at other options already. Why else join the St. Louis group for football?

Is that school paper on the net so we can read the column?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 12, 2007, 03:35:49 PM
The SU paper is on line at www.su.edu
But its not a big article just a quick few sentences from President Davis in his weekly column so its not really a must see article.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 12, 2007, 04:25:40 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 12, 2007, 03:31:34 PM
Well we knew someone would bolt soon, didn't see it being SU though.

If Piedmont, which would be a good fit, bolts from the GSAC to USAC then I think Murvul should follow as a full member. And it would be natural for the four women's teams in the GSAC to pursue a southern women's conference.
Leaves LaGrange and Huntingdon swinging in the wind but they must be looking at other options already. Why else join the St. Louis group for football?
huntingdon is the only school that is REALLY tough geographically for mu...

mu to huntingdon - 537 miles
to su - 358 miles
to piedmont - 356 miles
to m'ville - 393 miles
to lagrange - 444 miles

the cnu folks might raise a pretty big stink (and understandably so), though, if my proposal saw fruition:
cnu to su - 213 miles
to piedmont - 514 miles
to m'ville - 524 miles
to lagrange - 665 miles
to huntingdon - 758 miles

the more i think about it, the less i think this would work as i've proposed from a travel standpoint, but leaving huntingdon and lagrange out leaves the conference very vulnerable to a loss of aq status if anyone else decided to jump ship...would it be possible to get m'ville, piedmont and lagrange and hope that huntingdon could latch on somewhere?

could you align the proposed conference into divisions for sports other than football to allow for reduced travel (ie: play round robin in division, and one game with each team in the other division for hoops, play weekend doubleheaders at a central nuetral site in baseball/softball) - you could have the usasac east consist of au, cnu, gc, mu and ncwc and the usasac west consist of fc, hc, lc, m'ville and pc

not sure this would work...just some thoughts and "what if" scenarios...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 12, 2007, 04:52:38 PM
Here's the developing story on SU from MDT

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070912/SPORTS/70912030 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070912/SPORTS/70912030)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 12, 2007, 05:01:24 PM
Dang. Now I can't give Llama as hard of a time about BC playing cupcakes since they have to play everyone in the conference!!!  ;D ;D

Actually, I had heard the SU rumor...maybe about a week ago. I didn't want to post anything since it was just a rumor. SU moving to the ODAC brings up some interesting matchups. The SU/BC mathcup has the makings for a real good rivalry. It'll be interesting to see how conferences/teams jockey themselves after a move. I'm sure it will trigger more.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 05:01:56 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 12, 2007, 04:52:38 PM
Here's the developing story on SU from MDT

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070912/SPORTS/70912030 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070912/SPORTS/70912030)

Looks good.

Peace also doesn't have football, however.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 12, 2007, 05:06:36 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 12, 2007, 04:52:38 PM
Here's the developing story on SU from MDT

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070912/SPORTS/70912030 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070912/SPORTS/70912030)

a quote from the article....."Maryville's football membership gives the conference eight teams as Meredith is the only USAC school without a football program."

Man, I think someone at CNU missed scheduling the Peace Pacers football team......wait...I'll go check Bridgewater's non-conference schedule. I'm sure they jumped on that one!! (For my buddy Llama!!)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2007, 05:12:23 PM
Gotta type faster, 85. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 12, 2007, 05:14:02 PM
brain cramps Pat....I had to go look at the USA South web site to find the Peace mascot name!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 12, 2007, 08:28:12 PM
Thanks to CNU85 and Pat for poiting out my mstakenly categorizing just the men's teams USAC members and leaving out those two. The updated version with quotes from SU are now on the same link.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 12, 2007, 09:01:37 PM
This Bud's for you Mr. "I can write a very nice sports piece in a newspaper and get paid for it, but can't put two coherent sentences together on d3football.com message board".  ;D :D

just joking...I know we don't edit ourselves on this board like we should. You did write a very nice story about the SU issue.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 12, 2007, 11:17:22 PM
Been away for a while, and lets just say my internet service up here hasn't been comcastic  for the past two weeks...

Is it basketball season yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 12, 2007, 11:19:02 PM
I see the SU/ODAC thing has come up again, I'll copy a post from July to keep things brief:

Quote from: SU97 on July 10, 2007, 10:44:51 PM
Quote from: K-Mack on July 10, 2007, 09:57:42 PM
Anyway ...is the idea of SU leaving the USAC old news or really not that interesting?

hmmm...  let's see, it's been about 4 years since the ODAC rumour has surfaced, so this would seem about time for it to appear again.  Seems like this happens every 4 or 5 years up here.

Quote from: K-Mack on July 10, 2007, 09:57:42 PM
Shenandoah is probably a fit institution-wise, and for all sports, ODAC travel would seem to be better for them with just the one significant out-of-state trip to Guilford (although E&H might be a longer hike).

Considering current USASAC travel, I would imagine a once-a-year trip to Carolina would hardly be a concern...

Quote from: K-Mack on July 10, 2007, 09:57:42 PM
I'm sure it's preferable to trips to Methodist, N.C. Wesleyan, Tidewater (CNU and NNA) and Averett

Bingo - although NNA isn't in our conference, but Maryville (TN) is for football...

Quote from: K-Mack on July 10, 2007, 09:57:42 PM
I certainly don't know Shenandoah's reasoning, but I wouldn't be shocked if travel costs and more natural regional rivalries were a factor in their desire to join. Maybe the ODAC seems more stable as well.

From what I hear it's travel costs.  We've been hearing this for 15 years, it was a rumor even before SU added football.  The regional rivalries would be the attractive part of this from a fans perspective.  I know a lot of famlies in town who have ODAC ties - either kids at ODAC Schools or grads themselves.  I know that SU had 7000+ at the BC game a couple of years ago.

Overall I think it would be a good move for SU, however, there are some great match-ups that would disappear with a move - and that would be disappointing. 

I would hope I could still muster the strength to continue to hate CNU...

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 12, 2007, 11:37:27 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 12, 2007, 03:29:36 PM
I got this article from poster Menowannalickee U., so a big kudos to him on first posting it on the ODAC side. Its a interesting article about Bridgewater having to find teams to play for open dates and brings up CNU and also mentions that the ODAC schools want to bring in another football school into the conference.
"Another problem, Clark said, is that conferences are growing, and with D-III teams still playing only 10 regular-season games, fewer schools have open dates. Coaches in the ODAC, Clark said, are becoming more interested in adding another football school for that reason. Now, with only seven football teams, each has to find four non-conference games, which hasn't been easy.("So many of us [ODAC coaches] have a difficult time with the schedule," Clark said. "... The only people out there that will play you are big public schools or open enrollment schools that will sometimes give you a difficult matchup.")" By Dustin Dopirak of the DNR
http://www.dnronline.com/sports_details.php?AID=12165&CHID=3

I think after reading this, its pretty clear SU will become an ODAC member.





Uncle Jessie, I hear that a couple of the schools in the ODAC don't like SU for a couple of reasons, so I'm not quite sure it is a done deal by any stretch. 

Our facilities, or lack thereof, are really a tough knock against us.  Other than Shentel, our athletic facilities are the worst in the league/state/region/world...

But then I wonder if it even matters, as PSBBG so elloquently put it:
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 12, 2007, 12:49:49 PM
SU go ahead and leave, do what you think is best for you athletics.  I say let the GSAC join USASouth, it might keep that conference(basketball) tournament out of CNU.  :D

Do what you think is best for you(r) athletics....    SU is 6-18 in fall sports right now and 5 of those wins came from Volleyball (and those were wins against OOC all-girls schools)... So I wonder if it matters whether we are last in the USASAC, or last in the ODAC. 



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 13, 2007, 01:06:45 AM
The gym is bad at SU but its only a matter of time till they announce the new athletic center to be built next to Shentel. They now have a picture of it up at the entrance of Shentel along with some other projects showing what future buildings will be on campus.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 13, 2007, 01:37:21 AM
Pat/Ryan,   Assuming SU will get accepted into the ODAC within the next few months. How long would it take for the move to become official. Could SU move in right away next season or do you think they would have to wait until 2009 because of scheduling.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 13, 2007, 09:49:59 AM
Looking ahead to this weeks games, I didn't realize the ODAC so far was 11-1.  It doesn't look good for our USASouth teams right now for this weekend. (Pat Guilford's schedule says they are 2-0, but the standings say they are still 0-0.) Good Luck to the USASouth though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 10:16:44 AM
Thanks, I'll pass that along to D3Scoreboard. Not sure what the issue is there.

Jessie: If the move were to be announced in November they could get it in place for 2008 without inconveniencing too many schools. If it's done in April, like the PAC did a couple years ago, they're better off waiting until 2009.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 13, 2007, 10:45:53 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 10:16:44 AM
Thanks, I'll pass that along to D3Scoreboard. Not sure what the issue is there.

Jessie: If the move were to be announced in November they could get it in place for 2008 without inconveniencing too many schools. If it's done in April, like the PAC did a couple years ago, they're better off waiting until 2009.

It looks a little more widespread, the same thing is going on eith NCWC and MU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on September 13, 2007, 12:53:03 PM
All this talk about Shenandoah possibly moving out of the USAC caught me a little surprised. If the school president wants out of the USAC Im sure it will happen. Myself I would hate to see SU leave the USAC. They have become a pretty good rival to us. I think adding teams like LaGrange and Huntington would be a bad move for the USAC. The travel expenses would be huge. My boys are coming off a nice win last Saturday. This week will be more challenging. BC is due for and upset. Why not this Saturday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 13, 2007, 06:37:00 PM
Just a little USA South Pick-Em's PSA: I'm still waiting on picks from a handful of folks.

I'm hitting the road early Friday, and I won't be able to push and prod people later on to get their picks in....so I'm getting that out of the way now  :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 13, 2007, 08:51:31 PM
I am away from the computer for a day and the earth quakes everywhere.

Shenandoah to the ODAC and that is an eight-team football.

I really hope that the USA South takes the entire GSAC.  Yes, narch, you could have divisions easily.  This also assures an AQ many sports.

The GSAC sponsors:

Fall:  M&W XC and Soccer and VB.  (Murvul, Huntingdon and LaGrange sponsor football.  Huntingdon does not sponsor XC.  That may be the least expensive sport to add.)

Winter:  Men's and Women's Basketball (LaGrange sponsors M&W Swimming)

Spring:  Baseball/Softball, M&W Tennis  (Piedmont, Huntingdon and LaGrange sponsor Men's Golf; Piedmont, Women's Golf)

USA South sponsors:

M&W Soccer and XC, FB and VB (except NCWC Men's XC) (CNU sponsors Field Hockey.)

Winter:  Men's and Women's Basketball (Greensboro sponsors women's swimming)

Spring:  Women's Lacrosse; M&W Tennis, Men's Golf and Baseball/Softball. (CNU sponsors Sailing and M&W T&F and Men's Lacrosse.  Greensboro sponsors Men's Lacrosse.  Methodist sponsors Women's Golf and M&W T&F.)

Hypothetically, adding the GSAC-4 covers all of the losses incurred by Shenandoah's leaving, and one other team as well in the men's sports.  The New Southern Women's Conference could go with XC, Soccer, VB, Hoops and Softball and align as an affiliate in the USA South where it was appropriate, e.g. Women's Lacrosse.)

I think that CNU is vulnerable to being asked to join the Capital AC, especially with the distances that we are discussing.  The Capital AC offers Men's Lacrosse and M&W Track & Field.  The departure of Catholic and Goucher puts the Women's Track & Field in jeopardy as a formal sport.  The Capital AC also loses Catholic and Goucher Men's Lacrosse, so CNU helps there.

The southern division of the USA South is an attractive AQ alternative, if/when the travel budget for Oglethorpe in the SCAC or theoretical sports sponsorship requirements become too onerous.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2007, 09:01:51 PM
Ralph,

not sure if you were aware of this, or how it affects your scenario....CNU is in the Mason Dixon conference for Track.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 09:07:49 PM
Lots of teams have joint membership in the Mason-Dixon conference for track. If the GSAC four push the USAC to add track, it wouldn't be a problem.

I think CNU in the CAC along with York would be an issue. The league is a marriage of geographic convenience, and travel is the only thing those schools really have in common. CNU would skew that group.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 13, 2007, 09:23:53 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 09:07:49 PM
Lots of teams have joint membership in the Mason-Dixon conference for track. If the GSAC four push the USAC to add track, it wouldn't be a problem.

I think CNU in the CAC along with York would be an issue. The league is a marriage of geographic convenience, and travel is the only thing those schools really have in common. CNU would skew that group.

Is there any value in York to a MAC conference?  I have no idea about those mission and vision things.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 13, 2007, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 13, 2007, 08:51:31 PM

I think that CNU is vulnerable to being asked to join the Capital AC, especially with the distances that we are discussing.  The Capital AC offers Men's Lacrosse and M&W Track & Field.  The departure of Catholic and Goucher puts the Women's Track & Field in jeopardy as a formal sport.  The Capital AC also loses Catholic and Goucher Men's Lacrosse, so CNU helps there.


On the surface, the Capital seems a natural fit for CNU.  Mary Wash, St. Mary's & Salisbury are all state supported institutions, as are the Captains. Good fit there. Problem is that only Catholic, Salisbury, GU & Wesley have football...  no AQ.  No way in H :o that Trible would move in that direction.  Then the travel issue comes up... but they might not have much of an option. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 13, 2007, 09:41:10 PM
Catholic is going to the Landmark, and already plays football as an ODAC affiliate.

Maybe CNU stays as a football affiliate of the USA South.

Gallaudet just announced that it is going to the North Atlantic Conference as a football affiliate.   :-\

This is a real mess! Wesley, Frostburg and Salisbury are looking at big holes in the schedules.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 13, 2007, 10:19:29 PM
As an aside, SU has been trying to get in the ODAC since the early-mid 1980's.  When we joined the Dixie, it was around the time we didn't get into the ODAC in the 1990's.  It's really been no secret that SU has applied a number of times to join and never hit paydirt.  Kind of like our offense in the red zone. 

But I think SU would add some positive aspects to the academic landscape of the ODAC.  SU is listed by U.S. News & World Report as a "Masters University - Top Southern" category, which is different from all but Lynchburg (which by the way, SU is ranked two places higher than LC on the list) and W&L. I think that adds some breadth. The school has really benefitted overall from the emerging reputation of the graduate education SU offers in the allied health fields.  It would seem to be a nice complement to the ODAC's liberal arts background.

Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 13, 2007, 01:06:45 AM
The gym is bad at SU but its only a matter of time till they announce the new athletic center to be built next to Shentel. They now have a picture of it up at the entrance of Shentel along with some other projects showing what future buildings will be on campus.

Seems to me the school has had it in the plans for 10 years...  even plans to have built a hoops facility on the field behind the gym and the area that is now the parking garage.  Let's just say that the student union center was discussed in the early 1990's and it is just finishing now. 

But a hoops facility is not the only problem, as SU lacks practice facilities for M&W Lacrosse, Field Hockey, M&W Soccer, and obviously Track & Field. Most ODAC schools have great practice and competition facilities for their student-athletes. I wonder how much the ODAC looks at that kind of issue when considering the commitment level to athletics of a school applying for membership.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2007, 10:47:00 PM
I believe York felt insulted by the way the MAC treated it when the dominoes first started falling.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 13, 2007, 11:03:44 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 12, 2007, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 12, 2007, 07:20:30 AM
I think we all know that GC football and the #2 soccer team(GC) in the country play at seperate fields.

Another thing with GC out of town, I will still get my d3football, I will be at the AU-Guilford game.  Who do I root for in this game? If anyone will be there, well let me know.

Soccer and Football are played on the same field at Averett. (That includes Womens and Mens soccer) Therefore the field takes a beating. Averett is on the road the whole month of Sept and won't step on the field until Oct. Just think what condition the field will be in by then. ??? Plus I was told via the Grapevine that they were late getting grass sowed this year. When I saw the field 2nd week of August, it appeared to be greening up but looked very thin and tender in spots.

Pride.........go with your heart. If you feel like you need to pull for Guilford because of your Greensboro ties, do it; or pull for Averett and support the USA  South. Which ever, just have fun.

Hey, you might want to wear your Greensboro colors and get everyone's attention.
Yeah, kind of like that Longhorn fan wearing his Texas shirt in a bar in Oklahoma City a few days ago?  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 14, 2007, 10:29:51 AM
Here is a great article on SU senior middle linebacker Wes Fry from the Star this morning. "My mom instilled so much in me," said Fry, who was second on the team in tackles last year with 63. "She always made sure if I did something, I did it all the way. I remember in high school and even in college, if I got a "B" she'd get mad at me because she knew I had more in me. So that strength just carries over. If you're going to do something, give it everything you have and make sure you get everything out of it that you can. I'm just taking that and running with it, and that's how I live my life."By Robert Niedzwiecki
The Winchester Star

http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=1091



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 14, 2007, 11:00:45 AM
Thanks Uncle Jesse, it is always nice to hear good stories such as that. This kid will go along  way after football if he just continues with that attitude. :) :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 14, 2007, 05:07:03 PM
SU wins tomorrow.  Last minute field goal.  17-14.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 14, 2007, 05:45:40 PM
NARCH AND PAPI
I was at the Air Force/TCU game last night. Imagine 4th and 1 at your own 29 and you go (pitch) to the option on 71 yard run to tie and than win in OT.  Wow.

The AF kicker nailed a 57 yarder too, with about 7 yards to spare.

Sorry to break the conversation guys. forgive...... ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on September 14, 2007, 10:15:54 PM
How come no scores or predictions? E & H vs. NCWC grudge match
tomorrow. NCWC  34 -  E & H 20.  Should be a good one. Old Ref, I'll
look for you. I'll have on a black, yellow & white plaid shirt; you won't
miss me.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 15, 2007, 08:39:13 AM
Sounds like it was a great game even if it did involved watching a bunch of "zoomies"  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 15, 2007, 08:52:34 AM
The season is changing, the leaves are falling,
A feeling in the air, I think football is calling,

I'm off to the stadium, and hope to see.
Offense and defense, that is the is the key,

To bring home a win, is the goal we seek,
to continue to win and be on top of the peak


Goog Luck to all the USAC Teams!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 15, 2007, 09:07:00 AM
Smith Reed, I'll be on the top row with an orange knit shirt on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 15, 2007, 10:22:53 AM
too funny......maybe this board should be on the show, What not to wear!

hey...good luck to all the USAC teams today...time for my 3 minute drive to POMOCO!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 15, 2007, 11:46:02 AM
Quote from: Old Ref on September 15, 2007, 09:07:00 AM
Smith Reed, I'll be on the top row with an orange knit shirt on.
I guess that's better than being in the orange row with no shirt on top!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 15, 2007, 02:11:30 PM
Bridgewater 21 Ferrum 0 Early in the Second. Panthers just intercepted a pass. Probably the highlight of the day for the Panthers
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 15, 2007, 02:35:47 PM
Halftime BC 21 Ferrum 3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 15, 2007, 02:58:52 PM
GC 34-7 with 9:08 left in 3rd quarter.  2INT for touchdowns for Rod Hill
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 15, 2007, 04:02:41 PM
Scores from USASouth
GC won 48-7
CNU lost 35-21
NCWC won 20-16
MU lost 31-30 OT, Chowans's first win since October 1st, 2005
MC won 27-24 oT



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 15, 2007, 06:03:27 PM
wow...can't say i saw a monarch loss in the cards today...i'm a bit shocked right now...i didn't think chowan would be a cakewalk, but i thought the monarchs would get a w...looks like the monarchs went for 2 at the end of the first ot and it backfired

defense got hammered for 500+ yards today...they've got some stuff to figure out before ncwc next weekend

hill did run for 94 yards and 4 td's (but he had 32 carries...just a 2.9 ypc average)

...wow...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 15, 2007, 06:20:50 PM
correction Rod Hill did not have two INT's for as the live stats said in the scoring summary.  He had kickoff returned for a TD, and the other was a blocked punt for a TD. I think that makes him a lock for Special Teams Player of the Week.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 15, 2007, 06:54:06 PM
My thoughts on the CNU game today -

pitiful effort. CNU put up some offensive stats...over 380 yds total offense....balanced....190 on the ground and 190 in the air, two QB's with almost 100 yds each, a RB with over 100 yds...CNU had fewer penalties, more first downs, had the ball 5 minutes longer and averaged 4.6 yards per play - yet it didn't "look" that good...the penalties were all critical...like the holding call when the backup QB Brown lined up at WR, took the ball on a handoff, looking like a reverse...pulled up and throws a 40yd TD to Bradshaw - ahhhh...holding!! Or a key 4th and 2, CNU is going for it....when a senior OL and team captain jumps the snap...now we gotta punt.

Burke came alive, Bradshaw had a good game......but the offense just looked out of sync.

The defense is in DEEP trouble! It's Saturday evening now - it wouldn't surprise me if I drove back to CNU and saw the defense hitting the tackling dummies....SU ran for 400 yds!!! That's more than UMHB ran....387 if I remember...either way...that's about 800 yards in 2 games!!!!!!!!!!  Something will change there, not sure what. Maybe the loss of D-coordinator Legg who went to U of Richmond is a bigger loss than anticipated.

I don't get to see the game film and see how the players grade out, but I'm willing to bet most people's spots on the team are up for grabs.

This is gonna be a long 2 weeks - and I'm talking about for me...can't imagine what the players and coaches are going to go through. It's time for Kelchner to get into some faces and kick a few butts (players and coaches).

2 in-region losses...only one way to make the playoffs now. Gotta win it all - and what I saw today - unless something changes - it ain't gonna happen.

The UMHB loss did not concern me - this loss concerns me a great deal.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 15, 2007, 06:56:50 PM
but even with my comments below....I'll be at all the home games! Maybe a road trip or two as well.....

If any players are reading this....get it together....the Captains have talent, just need to put it all together.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: luvapontiac on September 15, 2007, 08:50:32 PM
Just to let CNU know...your fans are first class all the way. I am a Salisbury fan, but as far as Pomoco Stadium is concerned...College football lives here!! Good game today. I really like the SU-CNU rivalry.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 15, 2007, 09:13:47 PM
Luv....I like the rivalry better when we play in your place....we've never beaten you guys at POMOCO. Today was a part of family weekend, thus the 5,000 attendance.  In 2 weeks, with CNU getting beat twice, the crowd will be half that. And I can't imagine what the crowds would be lke, if CNU loses 2 early conference games and are out of the playoff picture.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: powerslant/2 on September 15, 2007, 10:13:20 PM
Yea I agree with CNU85, we recitified 1 of 2 problems and that is in the QB spot, the number two problem just got bigger and that's the D, how to contain the outside run and now the secondary is tackling Pop Warner style.  Can't win the conference title out right like that if those problems 2 & 3 don't get resolved. >:( :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 15, 2007, 11:53:23 PM
What an interesting weekend for the USASouth.

GC scores 48 points and by looking at thier history it was thier largest margin of victory, yeah it was Gallaudet, but GC needs to do that to teams like that.

Methodist gives Chowan thier first win in 18 games.  I know Narch won't like to here this first time they have given up 450+ yards in back to back games since 2003, MU went  4-5 that year.

Maryville is 3-0 as the website mentions first time since 1981. (would like to know how they finished up that year.)

NCWC may still win the conference, even though I don't think they will, with the 1-2 start, but the USASouth hasn't had a team since 2002 to get the AQ with a 1-2 start.  When CNU went as the AQ, they were smoked in the playoffs.

CNU is 1-2, still not worried the first time they did start 1-2 they were the AQ, the last time though they didn't win the conference.

Averett's history is short but the last time they scored less than 20 points in the first two games was thier first season, AU went 1-9.

SU 0-3 first time since 2002, SU finished 5-5 that year, the following year they finished 8-2

FC has started the season 1-2, 3 other times twice they finished 5-1 in the conference and last year they finished 2-7, take your pick.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 16, 2007, 12:14:38 AM
The Pride asked and they shall receive. ::)

The 1981 team started 4-0 before losing four of last six finishing 5-4-1. Rhodes was the tie and Randoplh Macon the lone win after Sept ended. Losses to washington & Lee, Millsaps, DePauw, and West georgia.
The four game opening wins were Baptist, Hampden-Sydney, Bridgewater and Emory & Henry.
Don't know if there was a key injury that chnaged the season or not.

But the 4-0 start before that? The 1979 team that went 7-2 losing to Milsaps and Univ of Central Florida. Starting senior linebacker for that team, current head coach Tony Ierulli.

Huntingdon looked very good. They had some discipline issues with needless penalties and quarterback Golson did not look like a 3-year starter over throwing guys and his receivers dropped five passes. Still they had the game until the fourth quarter. BTW Since this series started, the team leading at the start of the 4th qtr has lost every time.

Maryville still growing up but Wall channeled Price in the fourth and made the plays by arm or leg to get the two scores and was deadly in the overtime. Demetrius Christian, freshman from Fla., reminds of a certain CNU player who is finishing his degree this year, not as versatile but just the way he plays defense. Interception at 1 and bat down in the end zone during OT were big plays by this young man today.

And last note. Five or six of the new screening pines at the far end zone, cut down with an axe Thur. night. They were propped back up against the fence by the college and the cherry picker parked in front of them to discourage anyone - who if they did would almost be waving a flag saying 'I did it!' - from parking and tailgating in the field.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 16, 2007, 12:33:42 AM
Thanks, bard.

It sounds like Golson had a bad day.  I saw him at Huntingdon 2 weeks ago, and he was hot vs. McMurry.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 16, 2007, 02:52:29 AM
Papi ad Narch
At Chowan in OT!! That field plus the ride home from the middle of "Deliverence" must have been salt in the wound. Sorry boys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 16, 2007, 06:49:42 AM
ABN...I bet that was one long ride back to the 'Nam.  Seems like the offense is there for the Monarchs but the defense has got to improve drastically or it might be a long season for the boys in green.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU Backer on September 16, 2007, 06:55:49 AM
    Hey Pridesport..........."CNU will probably blow them out. I guarantee a win by at least 10 points".  ;D CNUis very good, but I've learned nothng is guaranteed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 16, 2007, 08:51:29 AM
Quote from: SU Backer on September 16, 2007, 06:55:49 AM
   Hey Pridesport..........."CNU will probably blow them out. I guarantee a win by at least 10 points".  ;D CNUis very good, but I've learned nothng is guaranteed.

It turns out my guarantee was wishful thinking.  I was hoping someone would bring that up, I was going to use it as a transition to my next point. 

Who is going to win the conference? I really think it is quite open right now.  I understand some of the favorites have played some better competition, but some of thier performances have been less than stellar.  I don't know how a team can have 4 TO's and only score 20 pts (NCWC)  Thier offense has been thier focal point and the last two weeks haven't gotten it done, by putting points on the board.  CNU's defense 400 rushing yards is outrageous, 387 the week before that.  I don't know in thier history, although short has ever had a defense that bad.

Maryville is the only 3-0 team, are they in the driver's seat to win the conference?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 16, 2007, 08:54:39 AM
I want Maryville to win the USA South, so they can come to Belton for a football playoff game against UMHB and the ASC.  ;D :D :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on September 16, 2007, 09:35:37 AM
NCW had a tough one yesterday,the offense is still not on point; but
now they're in conference and going to Fayetville next to play MU and
they always come hard . MU recruits Florida very well. Let's see what
Floridian surprises they have for us this year. CNU85, I wish I could say
the conference was good for what ails us, but it looks like it may be a
balanced year. BallGuy, even if these kids won the USASAC you wouldn't
give NCWC their props!!! You would be predicting a first round playoff loss.
So when they win week to week show some love!! As final note the defense
came to play Coach Ginn's bend but don't break style of defense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 16, 2007, 11:26:07 AM
Quote from: SU97 on September 14, 2007, 05:07:03 PM
SU wins tomorrow.  Last minute field goal.  17-14.

Missed that one wide right...   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2007, 01:53:44 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 16, 2007, 08:54:39 AM
I want Maryville to win the USA South, so they can come to Belton for a football playoff game against UMHB and the ASC.  ;D :D :D :D

I don't like Belton! ;D   (Actually, I do - steaks and Texas BBQ are ouststanding, people are extremely nice!)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2007, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on September 16, 2007, 09:35:37 AM
NCW had a tough one yesterday,the offense is still not on point; but
now they're in conference and going to Fayetville next to play MU and
they always come hard . MU recruits Florida very well. Let's see what
Floridian surprises they have for us this year. CNU85, I wish I could say
the conference was good for what ails us, but it looks like it may be a
balanced year. BallGuy, even if these kids won the USASAC you wouldn't
give NCWC their props!!! You would be predicting a first round playoff loss.
So when they win week to week show some love!! As final note the defense
came to play Coach Ginn's bend but don't break style of defense.

Unless someone starts clicking, I predict the USA south AQ will get bounced hard in round 1.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 16, 2007, 02:20:20 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 16, 2007, 01:54:54 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on September 16, 2007, 09:35:37 AM
NCW had a tough one yesterday,the offense is still not on point; but
now they're in conference and going to Fayetville next to play MU and
they always come hard . MU recruits Florida very well. Let's see what
Floridian surprises they have for us this year. CNU85, I wish I could say
the conference was good for what ails us, but it looks like it may be a
balanced year. BallGuy, even if these kids won the USASAC you wouldn't
give NCWC their props!!! You would be predicting a first round playoff loss.
So when they win week to week show some love!! As final note the defense
came to play Coach Ginn's bend but don't break style of defense.

Unless someone starts clicking, I predict the USA south AQ will get bounced hard in round 1.

The odds are either way, the USASouth will be 1 and done in round 1, only a 2-7 record in the playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 16, 2007, 04:15:00 PM
 CNU's defense 400 rushing yards is outrageous, 387 the week before that.  I don't know in thier history, although short has ever had a defense that bad.

PridesportBBallguy you hit the nail right on the head!!! I not trying to kick the kids when they are down but damn you have to have more PRIDE then that especially at home. 35 points at home is the 2nd largest total since the 44 pts given up by the 05 defense to Salisbury. But to the 05 d defense that team bolstered a pissed off Dustin Johnson and a bruising Satchell. Its gut check time and the new Def Cordinator and his defense needs to get it together. CNU's defense has been the back bone of our program for years and I don't ever recall us putting together back to back defensive efforts like that.

Its conference time guys lets get the Ship upright and win the conference outright.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on September 16, 2007, 07:36:05 PM
Just wanted to say congrats to the Fighting Scots for starting 3-0. Now is the time to continue to work hard and keep improving on the things that has gotten you to this point. Everyone from here on out will all be tough games. Good luck during your conference games. Never forget that hard work and persistence is what being a "Fighting Scot" is about.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 16, 2007, 07:53:30 PM
Just looking at the nonconference record so far you have to assume that unless the embers catch flame somewhere that its a one and done postseason on paper. But then anything can happen on a given Saturday. watch the Scots long enough and you never take anything for granted win or loss.

Heres the MC package link from today's paper, Mon morning qb account comes out Mon. (makes sense doesn't it?) and will be at www.thedailytimes.com


http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070916/SPORTS/70916017 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070916/SPORTS/70916017)

Golson didn't so much have a bad day as his receivers got hammered. Foot steps cost them after the first series when two of the group got popped hard  by Jensen then Locke and let go. They ran around the corners and busted routes and dropped balls. A few went unaffacted, Jarrett Smith and Broderick Smith especially popped back back up and came back for more, but others let Golson down.
The run defense really keyed on him and outside of two early runs were he escaped out the backside when flushed for gains the line contained him without needing a lot of support from the linebackers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 16, 2007, 08:03:07 PM
I  noted in the McMurry-Huntingdon game that the Montgomery officials did not permit as aggressive a defense by DB's on WR's as we see in Texas.  I wonder if this variation in style permitted of defensive play at Murvul caught Huntingdon off guard.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 16, 2007, 08:49:59 PM
First things first, congrats to Guilford College. They played a extremely well last night. They seem to be clicking on all cyclinders right now. Also your facility is first class and we enjoyed everything. The people were extremely friendly and helpful. Couple of guys from the Fest Event Staff wanted to cop an attitude, but overall great folks.

I hope I don't offend anyone with what I am about to say, Vogelbach is a good QB, but bottom line, without that offensive line and those receivers he would be just another average QB. The line gives him protection longer than most QB's have. Averett only got close to him 2 or 3 times all night. The receivers are fast and have the instinct to find the opening. So please when you are passing condo's for Vogelbach, make sure you talk about his line and rreceivers. He should be taking them all to Outback steak.

Finally, Olongguilford made reference to Averett being sloppy. That was being kind. They played like 2nd string high school players. They didn't move, hit, run, think...nothing. Dunlevy was quoted in the Danville newspaper that the coaches didn't do their job in getting the players ready. That may be true on some things but the coaches can't go on the field and play for them.  Hopefully he can perform some magic before the first conference game in two weeks. Only problem is we jump right out of the fry pan and into the fire next week with W&L.  Pray for us, we may not win a game this year if something doesn't change.

Good luck to Guilford the rest of this year and see you in Danville next year. Hopefully we will be able to offer more competition then.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 17, 2007, 10:52:02 AM
Congrads Maryville for winning the first 3 games.  Especially the last 2 games were character builder games.  It showed that if it is close in the 4th quarter the scots are a VERY dangerous team.  They find ways to win.  I am excited to see how everything pans out this year in conference play.  One thing is for sure, they aren't a push over that anyone can take lightly.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 11:03:23 AM
Time for a Narch or Hasa English lesson.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 17, 2007, 11:21:35 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on June 28, 2007, 05:16:33 PM
This could be a year full of surprises. NCWC, Maryville, Greensboro, CNU of course, Methodist, Ferrum and yes even SU and Averett have the potential to pull a few upsets.

All the teams look like they are set to play a tough out of conference schedule and depending on who comes out of the gate (first 3 games) the strongest may have the upper edge.

CNU is going to be there, but from what I witnessed last year, NCWC, Maryville, and Methodist could be hanging right there with them at the close. Averett, SU, Greensboro and Ferrum could also pull some major upsets and make this thing go right down to the wire.

Natually I am betting on Averett to be there but what do I know. I am just a washed up old offensive center that had his brains beat out 40 thousand times and have mash potatoes for knees.

I said back in June this was going to be a crazy year and it looks like it is headed in that direction. Only thing that hasn't happened is my winning on Averett. I am losing my shirt and more right now. Oh well, they are younger than I thought and hopefully by midseason will have some bugs worked out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 17, 2007, 11:34:22 AM
85...it's going to take more than one lesson!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 17, 2007, 11:48:14 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 17, 2007, 10:52:02 AM
Congrads Maryville for winning the first 3 games.  Especially the last 2 games were character builder games.  It showed that if it is close in the 4th quarter the scots are a VERY dangerous team.  They find ways to win.  I am excited to see how everything pans out this year in conference play.  One thing is for sure, they aren't a push over that anyone can take lightly.

     Yes, congrats to the Fighting Scots. I agree you have to win a few close and ugly games. However, starting this week, the stakes get higher and they will have to continue to get better each week.  8) GO SCOTS!!

     Now.....about those trees blocking the Court Street end of Honaker Field. I certainly don't advocate vandalism but isn't there another solution to the problem other than putting trees there?  Perhaps another access point instead? I realize the baseball field blocks one side but could there not be an access created behind the stadium to keep people from pulling out on Court St. (if in fact that is the problem)   ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE on September 17, 2007, 01:06:58 PM
Im just wondering if there are any Maryville fans on here that could give me an idea of what to expect from Huntingdon.  Adrian plays them this weekend and obviously it is a team that we here in Michigan dont know much about.  Any thoughts on how they play or info would be great!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2007, 01:11:29 PM
As much as I want to go to Maryville this weekend, I can't. The trip is too long, and I don't plan on driving it. As for the game this weekend, I don't know who is going to win it.  Maryville and GC currently are 1 and 2 in alot of conference statistic catergories.  I hope I get to listen to the game, I tried listening to Maryville's game this weekend, but I couldn't get the Maryville's radio to work.  So, how do I get that to work.  Both games between GC and Maryville have been good games.  I would expect WCLegacy (Ryan Tripps) did the spread, the spread would be even or GC as close underdogs.  


We need more football talk, conference games are starting this week and there is hardly any trash talking going on  :D ;D ;) :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 17, 2007, 02:27:58 PM
To listen to the Maryville-GC game go to:


www.truthradio.tv

Click on to the audio link...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 17, 2007, 02:30:03 PM
Also, make sure you have winamp for the internet feed to work.  There is a link for the download on the truthradio site or go to www.winamp.com and download it for free.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2007, 02:38:50 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 17, 2007, 02:30:03 PM
Also, make sure you have winamp for the internet feed to work.  There is a link for the download on the truthradio site or go to www.winamp.com and download it for free.
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 17, 2007, 02:27:58 PM
To listen to the Maryville-GC game go to:


www.truthradio.tv

Click on to the audio link...

Thanks.  I should be ready for Saturday now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 17, 2007, 02:43:32 PM
 The game was painful to watch being at Shentel Stadium in Winchester Saturday night. The offence was shut out again as the Hornets scored its only points from an interception. Something drastically needs to be done on the offence and I don't mean the players. I honestly belive the team can stack up with most teams but they are just being out coached right now. We all know all the Hornets do is run, run, run, and run up the middle. Opposing coaches are stacking the defense up on the line and stopping everything. Take a look at the game notes and you will see every 1st down starts with a run and 99% of the time it's up the middle. Barnes plays this 1950's style of offence and its killing them. The kids are playing with heart and giving the team everything they have. We have a QB that can throw the ball deep but is never given the opportunity to air it out and go for it. The defense for the most part is doing enough to win the games. They did play at the end like they gave up or most likely ran out of gas but its really come down to coach Barnes and his inability or stubbornness to change his play calling. Something needs to change.
Here is the Winchester Stars article on the game. http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=1148
"If last week was a step forward, then Saturday night was a full-blown backpedal. Albright College routed Shenandoah University 30-7 in front of a crowd of 2,073 at Shentel Stadium. It was a defeat the Hornets attributed to listlessness, but perhaps even more accurately, they attributed it to their inability to make enough critical plays."By Robert Niedzwiecki
The Winchester Star
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BillTheGrunt on September 17, 2007, 03:26:09 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 17, 2007, 02:43:32 PM
The game was painful to watch being at Shentel Stadium in Winchester Saturday night. The offence was shut out again as the Hornets scored its only points from an interception. Something drastically needs to be done on the offence and I don't mean the players. I honestly belive the team can stack up with most teams but they are just being out coached right now. We all know all the Hornets do is run, run, run, and run up the middle. Opposing coaches are stacking the defense up on the line and stopping everything. Take a look at the game notes and you will see every 1st down starts with a run and 99% of the time it's up the middle. Barnes plays this 1950's style of offence and its killing them. The kids are playing with heart and giving the team everything they have. We have a QB that can throw the ball deep but is never given the opportunity to air it out and go for it. The defense for the most part is doing enough to win the games. They did play at the end like they gave up or most likely ran out of gas but its really come down to coach Barnes and his inability or stubbornness to change his play calling. Something needs to change.

I didn't attend the Albright game last Saturday, but saw the Bridgewater game two weeks ago. The offensive gameplan for Bridgewater was exactly as Uncle Jessie described it -- handoff to Diggs, pitch to Diggs, incomplete pass, punt. No imagination whatsoever. Is play action even in the Hornet playbook? I'm amazed that Diggs was able to get 100 yards vs. Albright with the entire defense keying on him. And Glick at QB looks totally out of it, unsure, confused, off-balance and off-the-mark. If a team can field 100 players like SU it should be able to find a competent passer.

The crowd at the Bridgewater game was mostly polite, but the mood was definitely "here we go again." After one handoff to Diggs up the middle for no gain, a guy next to me shouted "Yeah, we're gonna keep running that play 'til it works."

I'm new to D3 football, so answer me this -- at what point does sportsmanship end, and the fans have the right to voice their feelings about a team that appears to be in freefall?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 17, 2007, 04:19:42 PM
Well sportsmanship should never end but I truly belive you have all right to question Barnes ineffective Wing T play calling. Plain and simple it just is not working. You write about the crowds at SU being polite. Every game I feel the crowd is just itching to cheer for something big. At times you can get a feeling of just how load the place can be. But its really hard for any fan to get his or her hands out of his pockets when each play is a run for 2-3 yards up the middle. I cannot explain how many times during a game a fan yells down to Barnes saying something about the play calling and to pass the ball more. It does not take a nuclear scientist to figure this out that the offense play calling the Hornets are doing right now is not the one for 2007. This is football 1951 we are watching.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 04:23:32 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2007, 01:11:29 PM



We need more football talk, conference games are starting this week and there is hardly any trash talking going on  :D ;D ;) :)

too funny...the way most USA South teams are playing...there'snot much room for trash talking.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 04:27:33 PM
Quote from: BillTheGrunt on September 17, 2007, 03:26:09 PM

I'm new to D3 football, so answer me this -- at what point does sportsmanship end, and the fans have the right to voice their feelings about a team that appears to be in freefall?

You can voice your feelings without being "unsportsman-like". Just don't make personal attacks. Focus on the behavior, not the individual.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 17, 2007, 04:29:11 PM
The other thing to keep in mind (as someone new to D3) is that the administration of some schools doesn't place the same emphasis on winning that we as fans do.  That is one reason (of many) that it's likely that D3 will be split into D3 and D4 in the near future.  Schools that treat sports more as just another student activity would fall into D4, those that are more competitive would stay in D3 (neither would allow scholarships). 

Bill, certainly you have the right to express your opinion and I'm not saying that your school is one of those that places little emphasis on winning.  By and large, though, the kind of wholesale jeering that you see in D1 wouldn't be welcomed anywhere in D3.   And, again, you don't know what kind of marching orders your administration is giving your athletic program.  If I was to express a concern, it would be there, but realize it might not do much good.   As '85 states, doing it in a constructive manner would be best.  It's also not easy to "recruit" student-athletes to D3. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 04:39:00 PM
What's this talk about D4?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 17, 2007, 04:40:40 PM
Congrats to NCWC's  Bo Brown for Defensive player of the week. Well deserved.

It appears that the USAC team that finally puts it all together, offensively and defensively, will take it. The concern is, no one at this point has done that. Wide open for the taking. Should be interesting the rest of the way. The question remains, how has the non conference schedule affected certain teams. Attitude and character will have to step up now.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 17, 2007, 04:49:20 PM
This is the first D4 talk I have ever heard of.  How would one make a distinction between a school that considers a program serious or not?  By further dividing D3 that would mess up conferences and thus automatic Playoff bids do to conference sizes.  It would be a real slap in the face if you were told we don't think you are really serious about football so we are going to demote you to D4.  It is like the school is being sent to their room.  I highly doubt the players aren't serious about winning (Yes I realize it is the administration you were talking about Ron).  Plus, who would want to go play for a school who's labled not serious?  If D3 is hard enough to recruit for imagine D4.  It would just be a bad move all around if they would do that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2007, 05:09:59 PM
ProudFightingScot should read his own area newspaper -- Marcus Fitzimmons did a series in December that is one of the best explorations of the possible Division III split that I have read. :)

Bill -- if you're asking if it's OK to boo in Division III, I would say go ahead.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 05:19:32 PM
Some useless info.

After 3 weeks of non conference football, here's a wrapup of the USA South:

7-14 overall with Maryville having the only winning record at 3-0; so rest of conference is 4-14. But, before you jump on the MC bandwagon...they're the only team that hasn't played either a ranked team, a team that has received votes, or a DII program.

Combined record of opponents (excluding DII and NAIA) 34-13.

Of the 21 games played....opponents included 2 DII programs, 1 NAIA, and 7 RANKED opponents with 2 other opponents receiving votes. That's 9 teams with votes and 2 DII schools....or slightly more than half the games.  Kudos for most schools playing a tough non-conference schedule.

Ranked teams include, from the latest week 3 poll, teams ranked #1,2,7,21,23 (twice), and 25.

CNU has played 3 ranked teams (#2,21, and 25).
AU has played #1 and a team receiving votes
FC has played #23
GC has played a DII
SU has played #23
MU has played a team with votes in the latest poll
NCW has played #7
Maryville has played teams that have a combined 2-7 record.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2007, 05:21:11 PM
Guilford has one vote at the bottom of someone's ballot but that doesn't make that game any less meaningful than Maryville's win against Huntingdon.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 05:22:54 PM
True. I was just looking at stuff.....that's why I started out saying it was "useless" info.

It's just fun stuff to look at - I'm a numbers/analytical geek!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 05:32:20 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 17, 2007, 04:49:20 PM
This is the first D4 talk I have ever heard of.  How would one make a distinction between a school that considers a program serious or not?  By further dividing D3 that would mess up conferences and thus automatic Playoff bids do to conference sizes.  It would be a real slap in the face if you were told we don't think you are really serious about football so we are going to demote you to D4.  It is like the school is being sent to their room.  I highly doubt the players aren't serious about winning (Yes I realize it is the administration you were talking about Ron).  Plus, who would want to go play for a school who's labled not serious?  If D3 is hard enough to recruit for imagine D4.  It would just be a bad move all around if they would do that.

Those were my exact thoughts!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 05:33:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2007, 05:09:59 PM
ProudFightingScot should read his own area newspaper -- Marcus Fitzimmons did a series in December that is one of the best explorations of the possible Division III split that I have read. :)

Bill -- if you're asking if it's OK to boo in Division III, I would say go ahead.

What a memory. I have a hard time rememebring what I ate for dinner last night and you can pop out a date for an article in a Tenn. Newspaper. I'm impressed!!

oh - it was roast beef last night.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 05:38:15 PM
I sent Mr. Fitsimmons an email asking him to point us in the right direction to see that story. It sounds interesting. Maybe Mt Union can go d4 and give the rest of the teams a chance!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 17, 2007, 05:49:06 PM
cool.  I was about to ask if you had a link to read the article.  I would like to hear an alternate opinion.  Marcus Fitsimmons does a great job covering the Scots and does his research well.  I must have missed that particular article though.  Maybe it will sway my opinion maybe not  ;)  But as it stands now still a bad move in my opinion (which really doesn't mean a lot when it comes down to it)  ha ha.  Thanks for the info when ya get it CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2007, 06:37:45 PM
85 -- It was a memorable series.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 27, 2006, 03:31:18 PM
Scottie Doug, the Maryville TN fan, posted these hyperlinks concerning D3 football.  The writer is Marcus Fitzsimmons at The (Maryville TN) Daily Times.

(On the occasions that I have read this paper, I think that they do a very good job of covering D3 in their part of the country, especially Maryville TN and the GSAC.)

This four-part series covers squad size, the economics of D3 vs D1, ...

Going big: D-III football coaches make decisions on team size (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061227/SPORTS/612270301)

Dollars & directions: D-III and D-I schools travel different paths (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061227/SPORTS/612270306)

Commentary...I think that Mr Fitzsimmons is using publicly stated numbers on football expenses, but the cost allocations may not necessarily reflect the discount rate that athletes receive from their respective institutions.

Thanks, scottiedoug!  +1K  ;)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 17, 2007, 06:42:00 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 04:39:00 PM
What's this talk about D4?

CNU85:  head over to the "General Division III Issues" board under "Future of Division III".  There's a lot of good stuff from the spring/summer - if you're into some "light reading" and have 35 hours to spare.  Some of it is actually quite interesting.  It covered a lot of questions for me.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2007, 06:51:19 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 04:23:32 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2007, 01:11:29 PM



We need more football talk, conference games are starting this week and there is hardly any trash talking going on  :D ;D ;) :)

too funny...the way most USA South teams are playing...there'snot much room for trash talking.
Quote from: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 04:39:00 PM
What's this talk about D4?

I think that answers your question. :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 17, 2007, 06:55:38 PM
Also Torrey Lowe and Rod Hill both got awards this week, the offensive and special teams player of the week.  Good Job Guys!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 17, 2007, 06:58:44 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 17, 2007, 02:43:32 PM
The game was painful to watch being at Shentel Stadium in Winchester Saturday night. The offence was shut out again as the Hornets scored its only points from an interception. Something drastically needs to be done on the offence and I don't mean the players. I honestly belive the team can stack up with most teams but they are just being out coached right now. We all know all the Hornets do is run, run, run, and run up the middle. Opposing coaches are stacking the defense up on the line and stopping everything. Take a look at the game notes and you will see every 1st down starts with a run and 99% of the time it's up the middle. Barnes plays this 1950's style of offence and its killing them. The kids are playing with heart and giving the team everything they have. We have a QB that can throw the ball deep but is never given the opportunity to air it out and go for it. The defense for the most part is doing enough to win the games. They did play at the end like they gave up or most likely ran out of gas but its really come down to coach Barnes and his inability or stubbornness to change his play calling. Something needs to change.
Here is the Winchester Stars article on the game. http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=1148
"If last week was a step forward, then Saturday night was a full-blown backpedal. Albright College routed Shenandoah University 30-7 in front of a crowd of 2,073 at Shentel Stadium. It was a defeat the Hornets attributed to listlessness, but perhaps even more accurately, they attributed it to their inability to make enough critical plays."By Robert Niedzwiecki
The Winchester Star


Well Uncle Jessie, here are my thoughts on Saturday's game at Shentel Stadium:

Great Crowd...
Great Atmosphere...
Great Parking situation since I left in the third quarter because of "listlessness".



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 17, 2007, 07:27:04 PM
I expect Greensboro and Maryville to be a pretty good game. It went to OT last year after Greensboro surrendered a 16-0 lead at the half.
I didn't make it to the game, having to listen on WBCR's broadcast but I do remember it was agonizingly slow. The teams combined for 29 penalties (MC 12-67, GC  17-196).

The tree issue at Honaker: Personally I think if alums approached the College about possibly raising some money for a Letterman Park in that area it might open some avenues in future seasons. It is a great place to watch from and in a buy a parking permit fundraising world it might work, might not.

How to play Huntingdon: Effort. You could see the Hawks had the potential but couldn't ever bring it to bare. My impression, which HC fans may find misguided, was that if you kept fighting, working, blocking past about three seconds into a play they wilted. MC's quick stuff got gobbled up but delays and longer developing plays were effective. On defense contain the qb first, then defend the receivers.

Three games in, I do believe LaGrange will get its first win this year. They have too many athletes ready to do it to be denied all season (just don't know who it might be). I think HC is better than they showed Saturday and Centre I think can rebound for a good year if they will play with in themselves rather than trying to do too much. Too much uncontrolled effort was a waste and the Colonels are much smarter than that.

And when the day arrives that conference games are available for video download on this board no one will see me on a Sunday because it will be three straight games that day to see the ones I couldn't watch in person.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 17, 2007, 09:47:42 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2007, 06:37:45 PM
85 -- It was a memorable series.

Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 27, 2006, 03:31:18 PM
Scottie Doug, the Maryville TN fan, posted these hyperlinks concerning D3 football.  The writer is Marcus Fitzsimmons at The (Maryville TN) Daily Times.

(On the occasions that I have read this paper, I think that they do a very good job of covering D3 in their part of the country, especially Maryville TN and the GSAC.)

This four-part series covers squad size, the economics of D3 vs D1, ...

Going big: D-III football coaches make decisions on team size (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061227/SPORTS/612270301)

Dollars & directions: D-III and D-I schools travel different paths (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061227/SPORTS/612270306)

Commentary...I think that Mr Fitzsimmons is using publicly stated numbers on football expenses, but the cost allocations may not necessarily reflect the discount rate that athletes receive from their respective institutions.

Thanks, scottiedoug!  +1K  ;)


Thanks Pat! Listening to Podcast now (The MNF guys really suck!). You guys do a good job with it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 17, 2007, 10:16:28 PM
yeah thanks Pat your awesome...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 18, 2007, 03:18:47 PM
I hope you all get a chance to read Ryan Tipps around the region this week.  Here is a cut out from it about the Hornet team.
"And considering that Shenandoah went 3-17 the past two seasons and is 0-2 so far this year, the fans were still there. They craved it. They cheered and shouted for the Hornets. And this enthusiasm makes it all the more difficult that the team is going through some rough years. The spectators know this. But the Hornet team will be buried beneath its style of play until changes are forced upon it. With those facilities and those types of fans, all those involved deserve better." Great article Ryan.

More and more fans and visitors are starting to be more out spoken about Barnes and his Wing T play calling. It just is not working. They were dead last in the league in points scored the last two years. 103 scored in 2005 and just 62 points all of last year. This year  they have scored 12 points of offence in 3 games. Ryan wrote it best. The Hornet fans deserve better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 18, 2007, 04:24:30 PM
I really liked Ryan's trip and was incredibly jealous. Sounded like the perfect weekend to me.
The down side is he saw two USAC teams lose.

Perhaps we should make a board tailgating pact? Agree that whoever gets the bid and wherever they go as many folks who post here as can meet up and tailgate for the first round game. It seems like it would be highly entertaining for everyone involved.

I know we've beaten this conference thing to death but I had an interesting email that started a new train of thought  on the subject. If Huntingdon and LaGrange are the geographic outcasts for USAC membership  where else could they go for a new conf home (assuming they keep football with current ties for 08)? Is the ASC or SCAC even have need or interest? Or is the USAC, as weird as it sounds, geographically and philosophically closer than any other conference option out there?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 18, 2007, 05:14:47 PM
Here are the game notes for SU/Ferrum this Saturday.
http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?action=post;topic=4562.0;num_replies=4824
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 18, 2007, 05:25:25 PM
Great post, Bard.

Bard, I don't think that the SCAC wants 2 schools that do not have Phi Beta Kappa chapters, such as Huntingdon and LaGrange, or endowments that are quite a bit shy of 7-figures.  They are a comfortable 12 schools, 8 of which are in the Associated Colleges of the South (http://www.colleges.org/).

The University of Dallas has a PBK Chapter, great academic reputation, favorable location and a potential travel partner (Austin College), but a paltry endowment, no football and marginally acceptable athletic facilities. (I think that LaGrange has better facilities.)

The "geographical center" of the ASC-East is just a little north of ETBU in Marshall, TX.  I don't think that LaGrange or Huntingdon would be invited to join the ASC.

The best hope for the GSAC is for Randy Lambert to take all GSAC schools into the USA South.  He should be able to swing that from the reputation that has preceded him on these boards.  After all, those schools left the NAIA and the NCCAA to join the GSAC and Division III.  It is now time for him to take the GSAC into the USA South.  ;)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 18, 2007, 05:55:02 PM
Ok, we need to make this board active with USASouth talk. What does everyone expect this weekend? What will be the big surprises this weekend?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 18, 2007, 08:57:04 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 18, 2007, 03:18:47 PM
I hope you all get a chance to read Ryan Tipps around the region this week.  Here is a cut out from it about the Hornet team.
"And considering that Shenandoah went 3-17 the past two seasons and is 0-2 so far this year, the fans were still there. They craved it. They cheered and shouted for the Hornets. And this enthusiasm makes it all the more difficult that the team is going through some rough years. The spectators know this. But the Hornet team will be buried beneath its style of play until changes are forced upon it. With those facilities and those types of fans, all those involved deserve better." Great article Ryan.

More and more fans and visitors are starting to be more out spoken about Barnes and his Wing T play calling. It just is not working. They were dead last in the league in points scored the last two years. 103 scored in 2005 and just 62 points all of last year. This year  they have scored 12 points of offence in 3 games. Ryan wrote it best. The Hornet fans deserve better.

I have had the pleasure of attending a game at Shentel...and this was before the upgrades. What a nice place and nice fans.....they do deserve better. Ryan's ATR transcends teams and conferences......it is what d3 is all about.....for a few seconds t made me an SU fan! Great job Mr. Tipps!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 18, 2007, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 18, 2007, 05:55:02 PM
Ok, we need to make this board active with USASouth talk. What does everyone expect this weekend? What will be the big surprises this weekend?

I predict CNU will not lose this weekend!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 18, 2007, 10:00:26 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 18, 2007, 03:18:47 PM
I hope you all get a chance to read Ryan Tipps around the region this week. 

More and more fans and visitors are starting to be more out spoken about Barnes and his Wing T play calling. It just is not working. They were dead last in the league in points scored the last two years. 103 scored in 2005 and just 62 points all of last year. This year  they have scored 12 points of offence in 3 games. Ryan wrote it best. The Hornet fans deserve better.

Great article by Mr. Tipps, wish I had known he was coming into town, would have saved him a beer from the cooler...

But I'm not so quick to call for a regime change here...  Yes, the Hornets have fell on hard times, but what about the rest of the Athletic Department?  If the fans are so insistent that Barnes needs to be sacked... here's how SU finished as a dept. according to the conference site:

SU             2006
Football       8th
Basketball    7th 
Baseball       6th
Soccer        5th
Tennis        7th

*I cannot figure out how they rank golf, but what is golf other than an excuse to get out of the office and booze mid-week anyways...  and we don't compete in the USASAC for men's lacrosse.

But then again, let's take a look at the same information spread out since the conference crowned a FB champ:

SU          2001        2002       2003    2004    2005      2006
Football    4th        3rd       1st      1st        8th       8th
Bball        4th         5th       2nd     3rd        7th       7th 
Baseball    6th        6th       8th       6th       6th      6th
Soccer     3rd         3rd       3rd      5th        6th      5th
Tennis      8th        6th       7th      7th        6th      7th


It's only been the last two years where football has been showing poorly. The rest of the sports seem to be heading in the same direction. I'm wondering if this is just a snapshot of poor recent performance, or a long term trend?  Curious if any other posters would care to comment on SU. 

Ferrum comes to town this weekend.  Thank goodness we aren't going there, my OnStar Nav isn't working. Time to right the ship!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 18, 2007, 10:03:09 PM
Greensboro College plus three in overtime
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 18, 2007, 10:03:33 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 18, 2007, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 18, 2007, 05:55:02 PM
Ok, we need to make this board active with USASouth talk. What does everyone expect this weekend? What will be the big surprises this weekend?

I predict CNU will not lose this weekend!  ;D

nice...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 18, 2007, 10:08:02 PM
If there's one game this weekend I'd like to watch, it would be the NCWC - MU game at Methodist.  This should let us know what NCWC is all about.  Narch, how your boys looking down in MU?

It's only conference games here on out. Clean slate...  Now the season really starts.  Good luck to all. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 18, 2007, 10:42:24 PM
Jessie, CNU85, SU97....et al...

Thanks for the compliments about this week's column. I definitely appreciate it!

It was a wild, fun weekend, and though I can't say that I'm going to do all of that again any time soon, I do hope to get back to these areas again. Good atmosphere and some great fans.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 19, 2007, 12:02:41 AM
SU97, When the University builds a new athletic center then I will put the same emphasis on the men's and women's basketball programs. But as we all know its pretty much impossible to recruit anyone to play at Shingleton Gymnasium. As for the other sports well, its anyone's guess on those. As for the football program it has become clear that SU has made this sport its poster child of the athletic department. They have put millions into the team, stadium and upgrades to the east side of campus. When a D3 program puts that much into a program and builds one of the best new stadiums in all of D3 ( I would include Pomoco in that category) the fans and most importantly the players deserve better. If Barnes is asked to stay on he should make a direction to lead the team in a new style of playing. Maybe he should hire a new offensive play caller that will adopt a more balance approach to calling a game. When the Hornets were down by 23 points to Albright Saturday they still ran the ball on a consistent level. How does that make any sence to any coach I don't know. Like I wrote in another post they scored a miserable 62 points all of last year. Some teams can score that in one Saturday! I'm not calling for Barnes' head just yet. But it is very clear that this approach Barnes belives in does not work. He needs to show that he is willing to change. As Ryan wrote SU deserves better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 19, 2007, 07:03:31 AM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 19, 2007, 12:02:41 AM
SU97, When the University builds a new athletic center then I will put the same emphasis on the men's and women's basketball programs. But as we all know its pretty much impossible to recruit anyone to play at Shingleton Gymnasium. As for the other sports well, its anyone's guess on those. As for the football program it has become clear that SU has made this sport its poster child of the athletic department. They have put millions into the team, stadium and upgrades to the east side of campus. When a D3 program puts that much into a program and builds one of the best new stadiums in all of D3 ( I would include Pomoco in that category) the fans and most importantly the players deserve better. If Barnes is asked to stay on he should make a direction to lead the team in a new style of playing. Maybe he should hire a new offensive play caller that will adopt a more balance approach to calling a game. When the Hornets were down by 23 points to Albright Saturday they still ran the ball on a consistent level. How does that make any sence to any coach I don't know. Like I wrote in another post they scored a miserable 62 points all of last year. Some teams can score that in one Saturday! I'm not calling for Barnes' head just yet. But it is very clear that this approach Barnes belives in does not work. He needs to show that he is willing to change. As Ryan wrote SU deserves better.

       I will be the first to admit that all I know of SU football is what I have read. I hope at some point to see them and their stadium. As a former coach, I have always been of the opinion that after a certain amount of time, if something isn't working, then you make some changes. At least enough to try to shake things up a little. It sure sounds like they need to do some "shaking" st SU. Question for the SU faithful and others that know more about them than I. How do the Hornets stack up talent wise compared to other USAC or ODAC schools? Most of us (including me) tend to rate "our" teams (and have expectations) a littler higher than what the reality is. I know it is difficult to speculate on something like this but do the Hornets have the personnel with a different O to be competitive?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on September 19, 2007, 07:45:18 AM
SU's wing T play calling should definitly be out. Back in the day when they had Frates and Lacey, they could get away with running the ball in this set. To run the wing T you need to have a great fullback who can block, and also is not afraid to burry his head and pick up a few yards. Looking at the stats, they dont have that compliment this year. Their runningback is pretty good, but if the fullback cannot carry the ball, its easy to key off of. I know this because we run the Double Wing here at the high school where i am at in charlotte. We have rushed for 1400 yards in 4 games and have 3 players over 300 yards right now. This happens because of the line, the Running backs, and the full back. SU needs to look at the personel they have and get to something that makes since to utilize the players they have.
       The MU NCWC game should prove to be a shootout. Parks is looking exactly the way they said he would. He has shown signs of maturity already as a sophomore. NCWC will be a tough matchup for the monarchs defensively, but i think coach sy will have the defense ready to play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 19, 2007, 07:57:07 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 18, 2007, 10:03:09 PM
Greensboro College plus three in overtime


     Now that's funny I don't care who you are!!  :o ;D  GO SCOTS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 19, 2007, 08:46:21 AM
Greensboro better be ready to play...   There's still alot of bad blood from Maryville from last season's game...    :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on September 19, 2007, 08:49:35 AM
Here are my predictions for saturday.

NCWC VS. MU- This will be the matchup of the weekend in my eyes. We get to see 2 Offensive player of the year candidates on the field at Monarch stadium. Townsend and Hill. Hill has scored 8 times in 2 games and rushed for  316 yards. The young offensive line knows how to run the ball.

GC VS. MVC- Maryville has scored 70 pts. and rushed for 465 yards this year. They are 3-0, however, one thing about this team, they have not scored a single TD or FG in the 1st quarter yet this year. Looks like they have scored it all in the third and fourth. If greensboro could get up big at the half and keep it turned on, they can win this game. Disappointing numbers by Lowe, has only 1 TD on 51 attempts.

SU VS. FC- SU has 19 points in 3 games, WOW!! They cannot seem to find the endzone. They have 454 yards rushing, but only 1 TD. QB has thrown 4 INT'S and no TD's. Shentel was always hard to play at, btu i mean they keep this up, there won;t be anyone there to play for.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 19, 2007, 09:04:06 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 18, 2007, 10:03:09 PM
Greensboro College plus three in overtime

Is that with another 196 yards in penalities again?  If you want it to be close this year Greensboro better improve on that stat.  I don't see it happening.  Plus, there is a lot of bad blood between them because of quite a few cheap shots on Greensboro's part.  Hopefully, that is cleaned up this year.  If nothing else, Greensboro gave Maryville a reason to circle this game on their schedule when they came out.  They will be ready.   Prediction 35-14 scots win (btw covering Mr. Tipps spread)!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 19, 2007, 09:55:02 AM
Thanks everyone for finally starting a healthy disscussion. First off Torrey Lowe is not a RB, he is an all purpose back, where he runs and catches.  I am not concerned about 1 TD in 51 attempts.  I don't think anybody else should be either.

I think both teams for saturday knows exactly whats coming from each team. I am not even going to get into that, use your imagination or look at the USASouth statistics. If Maryville gets into the position where they have to pass the ball, I am not sure if they are capable of getting into a shootout with GC.  I think GC has the best secondary in the conference and they have been like that for quite a few years now. MC QB has 2TD's-4 INTs in 3 games against opp who are a combined 2-7. I am not trying to say he is a bad QB, but I am saying I am not sure if the game becomes a shootout he will be able to torch the secondary.  GC QB has a 62.5% completion percentage, believe it or not the Gallaudet game actually brought is percentage down even though he threw for 2TD's in the game in a 48-7 rout.  I think this game will be a big challenge for both QB's, I think this game will be a challenge for both defenses.  MC may want some revenge from this game, but I think GC does too, many believe and some posters on here even said, "GC got lucky." I think they want to go out there and show it wasn't luck.  I don't know and won't even fathom the outcome, but it will not be a 3 TD game. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 19, 2007, 10:14:18 AM
allsky7, I truly belive without bias the Hornets could compete against many teams in the USAC if they would mix things up. The teams they are playing against are all stacking the defenders up on the line knowing that each play is up the middle. Every first down is a run up the middle 100% of the time. Do they have the players to win the USAC? No, not by any means. But for a change they have a QB that has an arm but he hardly never gets a chance to use it. His INT's this year are hard to judge because when they do let him pass they are so far behind in the score that I feel he is forcing it at times. Its just human nature to try to carry the whole team on your shoulders. They played well against Bridgewater and we all know they are no cake walk of a team. For a short time in that BC game Barnes was all of a sudden pass happy. It caught the Eagles off guard and they moved the ball down field and eventually leading up to the only offensive touchdown of the Hornets season. BC was no longer able to put its defenders on the line having to defend the pass. For the fans at Shentel its hard to watch. The crowd at times is yelling but that is few and far between. Its really hard for any fan to get into the game when all your home team does is gain 3 yrds a carry. This style of play (Wing T) I wouldent wish on anyone to have to watch including CNU's fans. ;) It is plain and simple an out dated system that needs to be tossed in the trash. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 19, 2007, 10:35:48 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 19, 2007, 09:55:02 AM
MC may want some revenge from this game, but I think GC does too, many believe and some posters on here even said, "GC got lucky." I think they want to go out there and show it wasn't luck.


Yeah it is me and you this week Pride  ;D.  About the comment above, as much as Greensboro wants to prove it wasn't a fluke, Maryville wants to show it was.  I know the scots will be fired up for this game and feel like they owe some payback from last year.  That's why I think they will win by 3 TD's and they won't come in flat in the 1st half.  They have had 3 weeks to get their new play caller some game time experience and work out some of the kinks.  Even though the games have been close, they have shown they can make plays when they count.  So, even if they don't cover 3 TD's if it is close in the end it definately is in MC's favor.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on September 19, 2007, 11:13:28 AM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on September 19, 2007, 08:49:35 AM
Here are my predictions for saturday.

NCWC VS. MU- This will be the matchup of the weekend in my eyes. We get to see 2 Offensive player of the year candidates on the field at Monarch stadium. Townsend and Hill. Hill has scored 8 times in 2 games and rushed for  316 yards. The young offensive line knows how to run the ball.

GC VS. MVC- Maryville has scored 70 pts. and rushed for 465 yards this year. They are 3-0, however, one thing about this team, they have not scored a single TD or FG in the 1st quarter yet this year. Looks like they have scored it all in the third and fourth. If greensboro could get up big at the half and keep it turned on, they can win this game. Disappointing numbers by Lowe, has only 1 TD on 51 attempts.

SU VS. FC- SU has 19 points in 3 games, WOW!! They cannot seem to find the endzone. They have 454 yards rushing, but only 1 TD. QB has thrown 4 INT'S and no TD's. Shentel was always hard to play at, btu i mean they keep this up, there won;t be anyone there to play for.


Where exactly was the prediction of Saturday's games?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 19, 2007, 11:21:23 AM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 19, 2007, 10:14:18 AM
allsky7, I truly belive without bias the Hornets could compete against many teams in the USAC if they would mix things up. The teams they are playing against are all stacking the defenders up on the line knowing that each play is up the middle. Every first down is a run up the middle 100% of the time. Do they have the players to win the USAC? No, not by any means. But for a change they have a QB that has an arm but he hardly never gets a chance to use it. His INT's this year are hard to judge because when they do let him pass they are so far behind in the score that I feel he is forcing it at times. Its just human nature to try to carry the whole team on your shoulders. They played well against Bridgewater and we all know they are no cake walk of a team. For a short time in that BC game Barnes was all of a sudden pass happy. It caught the Eagles off guard and they moved the ball down field and eventually leading up to the only offensive touchdown of the Hornets season. BC was no longer able to put its defenders on the line having to defend the pass. For the fans at Shentel its hard to watch. The crowd at times is yelling but that is few and far between. Its really hard for any fan to get into the game when all your home team does is gain 3 yrds a carry. This style of play (Wing T) I wouldent wish on anyone to have to watch including CNU's fans. ;) It is plain and simple an out dated system that needs to be tossed in the trash. 

     WOW!!! Hard to believe.  :o I guess it's one thing to have the studs to say we are going to line up and run it down your throat and be successful. Quite another to do that but not have the studs to execute it. Doesn't make any sense. Good luck to the Hornets. Hopefully SOMETHING will change.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 19, 2007, 12:48:06 PM
Anyone that is interested in knowing more about why SU would like to join the ODAC should check out Scott Musa's article in todays campus newspaper. http://www.su.edu/pr/publications/sun/Sept19.pdf
It answers all the questions anyone may have about it. Its on page 6
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on September 19, 2007, 01:00:01 PM
Thanks captain chris, i thought i had the winner bolded but i guess it did not work out that way, so here you go.

MC beats NCWC
MARYVILLE COLLEGE
FERRUM GETS THEIR WIN OVER SU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2007, 01:05:33 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 19, 2007, 12:48:06 PM
Anyone that is interested in knowing more about why SU would like to join the ODAC should check out Scott Musa's article in todays campus newspaper. http://www.su.edu/pr/publications/sun/Sept19.pdf
It answers all the questions anyone may have about it. Its on page 6

If the school joins the ODAC, would the newspaper have its own sportswriters?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 19, 2007, 01:11:45 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 19, 2007, 12:48:06 PM
Anyone that is interested in knowing more about why SU would like to join the ODAC should check out Scott Musa's article in todays campus newspaper. http://www.su.edu/pr/publications/sun/Sept19.pdf
It answers all the questions anyone may have about it. Its on page 6

Ok, I see how it favors Shenandoah.  Will it favor CNU to join the ACFC for football and the CAC for everything else.  Of course that would be after we added the GSAC.  Ok maybe that is wishful thinking, but I hope that adds more of a discussion.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on September 19, 2007, 02:34:32 PM
Uncle Jessie, Thanks for the link to the game notes and also the link to the reasoning as to why SU wants to leave the USAC. As the game notes say in this up coming game between the Panthers and you guy's you can see we are in the same boat in terms of offence. Your guy Barnes was the mastermind that put this system in place in the late 90's and why we don't get rid of it as well I have no idea. Neither team will ever be in a shoot out that's for sure. Its a good system to run part of the game if you have the personnel as we have done at times in the past but I have always thought you automatically put yourself in an disadvantage using it all the time. Im going up to SU this weekend for the first time. I've been curious to see what your stadium looks like and after reading the around the region about SU's stadium I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 19, 2007, 06:19:45 PM
Latest on Wheaton QB, Zach Ullirch:


Quote from: usee on Yesterday at 01:20:47 pm
Quote from: Mugsy on Yesterday at 12:53:43 pm
Quote from: nogloves4 on Yesterday at 11:04:17 am
I am an ex-Wheaton football player and recently got the update from one of the coaches on Zach Ullrich.  The preliminary diagnosis was that he suffered a hematoma on the brain (aka brain bleed), which is extremely serious and even life threatening.  It sounds like it was very serious for a while, but it looks like things have gotten better.  He has been responsive and the bleeding has stopped, which means he shouldn't require any surgery.  He isn't in the clear yet, so keep up your prayers, but things do look better.  The last thing I heard was that he was still in Barnes Jewish hospital in St. Louis.  This hospital is supposedly great at dealing with injuries like Zach's so I believe he is in great care.
That's all I know at the moment.  If I hear anything else I will let you guys know.  Just keep he and his family in your prayers.  As for his season, well that looks like it is pretty much over.


Thanks for the confirmation.  That is pretty much what I had heard via 3rd hand sources.  I didn't want to bug the coaches, so I figured I wait until information was more readily available on his condition.


This is consistent with what I had heard. I would add I heard the hit happened in the 1st quarter and he was checked regularly for concussion sypmtoms throughout first half as well as at halftime by doctor on the sidelines. He played one series in the 3rd quarter and collapsed on the sidelines. Because it was burst blood vessels it doesn't have the same sypmtoms of concussion.  Very scary.


Please keep this young man in your prayers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 19, 2007, 07:56:13 PM
Fighting Scot,

  Your prediction is a little biased.  The Pride beat you last year and will beat you again this year.  The only thing you have going for you is that your team is 3-0 and at home and Oh yeah your fans cut down trees in a malicious manner..


Should be a good experience and win for the pride.

What beat Romel in the desert in Africa?

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 19, 2007, 08:09:54 PM
I had planned to come on here and give CNU85 a hard time about his new CNUsports website. 

But after reading kickerdad's post, I'm in no mood to be jovial. I think I'll log off for the evening. I hope that the young man from Wheaton is okay and prayers go out for him from Winchester.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 19, 2007, 08:11:09 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 19, 2007, 07:56:13 PM
Fighting Scot,

  Your prediction is a little biased.  The Pride beat you last year and will beat you again this year.  The only thing you have going for you is that your team is 3-0 and at home and Oh yeah your fans cut down trees in a malicious manner..


Should be a good experience and win for the pride.

What beat Romel in the desert in Africa?

Roll Pride!


Patton read his book
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 19, 2007, 08:11:45 PM
Quote from: SU97 on September 19, 2007, 08:09:54 PM
I had planned to come on here and give CNU85 a hard time about his new CNUsports website. 

But after reading kickerdad's post, I'm in no mood to be jovial. I think I'll log off for the evening. I hope that the young man from Wheaton is okay and prayers go out for him from Winchester.

I haven't seen the website.. :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 19, 2007, 10:03:53 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on September 19, 2007, 02:34:32 PMwe are in the same boat in terms of offence. Your guy Barnes was the mastermind that put this system in place in the late 90's and why we don't get rid of it as well I have no idea. Neither team will ever be in a shoot out that's for sure. Its a good system to run part of the game if you have the personnel as we have done at times in the past but I have always thought you automatically put yourself in an disadvantage using it all the time.
...doesn't ferrum run a true triple option offense??  the wing T is substantially different from the option....much more pulling, trapping, counters and scissors and little (comparitively speaking) option plays out of a wing T - really the only similarity is the fact that you run a lot in both

mu ran the wing T (it was really a wing/option hybrid, i think) during rocket's first few years - i agree with mcftbl51...the fullback is key

i think one of the things that i like most about coach sypult is his ability to adapt to the players he has...when i first started following mu football in the mid 90's, they ran a pro set throught the brian turner era and even into papi's day as the qb - rocket's first three years brought a plethora of rb talent, and hence, the wing/option thingy - the coaches then realized they weren't going to have a big bruising fb and had a qb who could really wing it (rocket's sr year) and went to the spread with some spread option stuff - early in the year last year with the mobile bartee...lots of spread option - once parks took over, more spread - less option and some I formation - in the guilford game, the monarchs were multiple, but seemed to favor having parks under center in the I

there are some coaches who simply conform their players to their system and others who adapt their system to their players...as a fan, i favor the latter, especially when the former doesn't seem to be working :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 19, 2007, 10:12:10 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2007, 01:05:33 PMIf the school joins the ODAC, would the newspaper have its own sportswriters?
pat...i don't really understand this question...it seems as though you are being critical of the su newspaper for allowing the sid to write sports stories...how is the author of a story in the su newspaper germane to this situation in any way??  does the odac require schools to have their own sportswriters as part of it's constitution and membership requirements?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 19, 2007, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 19, 2007, 07:56:13 PM
Fighting Scot,

  Your prediction is a little biased.  The Pride beat you last year and will beat you again this year.  The only thing you have going for you is that your team is 3-0 and at home and Oh yeah your fans cut down trees in a malicious manner..


Should be a good experience and win for the pride.

What beat Romel in the desert in Africa?

Roll Pride!


Oh yeah just like you aren't biased.  Last year was just a fluke anyway.  How did you finish in the league last year??  Oh yeah that's right behind Maryville.  The only thing on the pride that will be rolling are the bus wheels back to Greensboro with a second loss.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AF4 on September 19, 2007, 10:39:21 PM
proudfightingscot

good game...to the wire...very exciting

good luck rest of the season... we (huntingdon) have a heck of a schedule left ....

see yall next yr
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2007, 10:48:36 PM
Quote from: narch on September 19, 2007, 10:12:10 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2007, 01:05:33 PMIf the school joins the ODAC, would the newspaper have its own sportswriters?
pat...i don't really understand this question...it seems as though you are being critical of the su newspaper for allowing the sid to write sports stories...how is the author of a story in the su newspaper germane to this situation in any way??

Yes. And it's not.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 19, 2007, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: AF4 on September 19, 2007, 10:39:21 PM
proudfightingscot

good game...to the wire...very exciting

good luck rest of the season... we (huntingdon) have a heck of a schedule left ....

see yall next yr

I tell ya what... every game against huntingdon is a GREAT game.  It is never an easy win for either team and is very exciting.  There is definately no quit in either team.  Good luck with the rest of your schedule.  It is never easy to be an independent.  I was relieved when Maryville finally got in a conference.  Huntington will be just fine this year I believe and will be able to pick off their share of teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 20, 2007, 06:50:08 AM
Some have questioned the SU QB R. Glick. Today's Winchester Star has an article about how the team's circling the wagons around him.

"Pryor said that because he feels the campus and others outside the program have been hard on the sophomore, who in his only three career collegiate starts has gone 14-of-52 (27 percent) with no touchdowns and four interceptions. The Hornets are 0-3 in those starts."By Robert Niedzwiecki
The Winchester Starhttp://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=1220

Personally I don't feel he has lost the games for SU this year. 3 of the 4 INT's were against CUA and they came late in the game when he was pressing, trying to do it all himself. I like the kids arm and think he has the potential to be a decent QB in the USAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on September 20, 2007, 08:05:24 AM
Any thoughts as to whats goin on at AU this year? Are they just that young and no experience or leadership on the field? Looking at their freshman class they brought in, they look to have some big players from all over. One that stands out is a freshman kid from south meck in charlotte where im at. He went up to play, and first practice, tore his ACL. 
       My prediction for the conference championship pick will still be between CNU and NCWC i think. If MU can upset NCWC at home this weekend, my outlook will change.
     
      NARCH- Whats your thoughts so far on the game(s) for the monarchs. Has Parks matured during the offseason?  From the stats it looks like they got a good freshman reciever to go on the opposite side of doleman and Mularski, does he play as well as it sounds? I agree, our senior year we knew going into the season we wouldnt have a fullback like we had the 2 years before. Dont know if you remember him, but Mike Frees. Big guy that could run the ball well, just ask Averett whom he ran a 75 yard touchdown right up the gut on. We had to conform to what personel we had and throwing the ball was it. However in the midst of that, running zone worked in our favor as we ran for 2,000 and threw for 2,000.
       im not knocking SU at all, but i do think the days of their wing-t style offense is through until they get another big time fullback. Looking at their team on the roster, they have some pretty big kids at reciever, maybe they should throw the ball which opens up the run. Force teams to cover your spread and run it underneath. Barnes is a college coach, he should know this, but at the same time, why is he not doing it? SU fans, any thoughts?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 20, 2007, 08:17:40 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2007, 10:48:36 PM
Quote from: narch on September 19, 2007, 10:12:10 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2007, 01:05:33 PMIf the school joins the ODAC, would the newspaper have its own sportswriters?
pat...i don't really understand this question...it seems as though you are being critical of the su newspaper for allowing the sid to write sports stories...how is the author of a story in the su newspaper germane to this situation in any way??
Yes. And it's not.
why post it then? it seems reasonable to me that a sports information director would write a regular column in the school newspaper, especially if the school is having difficulty finding quality contributors...i know that was the case at mu a few years ago...maybe that's the case at su, as well...do you know the situation with regard to student contributors?

or maybe the sid just enjoys writing for the su newspaper...is that so wrong?

either way, i don't get why you feel the need to comment on the situation, other than the fact that it's your website and you can do it if you want :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 20, 2007, 08:27:41 AM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on September 20, 2007, 08:05:24 AMNARCH- Whats your thoughts so far on the game(s) for the monarchs. Has Parks matured during the offseason?  From the stats it looks like they got a good freshman reciever to go on the opposite side of doleman and Mularski, does he play as well as it sounds?
i thought they looked very good offensively against guilford, but struggled to stop gcq from throwing the ball...i chalked that up to vogelbach

after a loss to chowan, i'm not sure what to think - despite scoring 30 points, the offense wasn't really that productive and the defense didn't show up again...no vogelbach at qb, though...they got ripped in the run and pass game...coach sy and the other defensive coaches have their hands full getting these guys up to speed

we'll have to see what happens this weekend...if the offensive team that played on opening weekend shows up, and the defense makes some adjustments, the monarchs will give ncwc everything they can handle...if the team that played chowan shows up...well, let's just say it will be a long day

i was very impressed with hopkins vs. guilford - he caught everything thrown to him and made one spectacular catch - he doesn't look like much when you eyeball him, but he's got some quickness, runs good routes and catches the ball...he should be a nice compliment to doleman and mularski this season
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on September 20, 2007, 09:19:19 AM
Thanks NARCH, i have some players who would like to play football next level and they want to see methodist first hand. One is my tackle who is 6'7 315. He doesnt really want to go to a big school he likes the smaller classroom and close to home college. UNC wants him to walk on because they cant offer a scholarship cuz they are full right now. Brown university is also looking at him. So i want to help the monarchs out. Another one is a DB who can flat out play football. I hope to come see the monarchs in action against CNU this year. Delapp and I are hoping to come down. maybe we'll see ya and have some cold ones before the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 20, 2007, 09:20:00 AM
Quote from: narch on September 20, 2007, 08:27:41 AM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on September 20, 2007, 08:05:24 AMNARCH- Whats your thoughts so far on the game(s) for the monarchs. Has Parks matured during the offseason?  From the stats it looks like they got a good freshman reciever to go on the opposite side of doleman and Mularski, does he play as well as it sounds?
i was very impressed with hopkins vs. guilford - he caught everything thrown to him and made one spectacular catch - he doesn't look like much when you eyeball him, but he's got some quickness, runs good routes and catches the ball...he should be a nice compliment to doleman and mularski this season
You're right, narch, it was a spectacular catch.  I was impressed!  I hope MU can make some adjustments.  I thought their offense looked good against Guilford, but, to be honest, who knows what to expect with Guilford's Defense.  The Monarchs will certainly face better defensive squads this year.  As far as giving up 50 to the Quakers - well, I think a lot of teams will surrend 40+ to this year's Guilford team.  I must say, however, I expected MU to put Chowan away.  :(  Good luck the rest of the season!  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 20, 2007, 10:20:59 AM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on September 20, 2007, 08:05:24 AM
Any thoughts as to whats goin on at AU this year? Are they just that young and no experience or leadership on the field? Looking at their freshman class they brought in, they look to have some big players from all over. One that stands out is a freshman kid from south meck in charlotte where im at. He went up to play, and first practice, tore his ACL. 
       My prediction for the conference championship pick will still be between CNU and NCWC i think. If MU can upset NCWC at home this weekend, my outlook will change.
     
      NARCH- Whats your thoughts so far on the game(s) for the monarchs. Has Parks matured during the offseason?  From the stats it looks like they got a good freshman reciever to go on the opposite side of doleman and Mularski, does he play as well as it sounds? I agree, our senior year we knew going into the season we wouldnt have a fullback like we had the 2 years before. Dont know if you remember him, but Mike Frees. Big guy that could run the ball well, just ask Averett whom he ran a 75 yard touchdown right up the gut on. We had to conform to what personel we had and throwing the ball was it. However in the midst of that, running zone worked in our favor as we ran for 2,000 and threw for 2,000.
       im not knocking SU at all, but i do think the days of their wing-t style offense is through until they get another big time fullback. Looking at their team on the roster, they have some pretty big kids at reciever, maybe they should throw the ball which opens up the run. Force teams to cover your spread and run it underneath. Barnes is a college coach, he should know this, but at the same time, why is he not doing it? SU fans, any thoughts?

51, I have attended both of AU's games and I think everyone is confused as to what is going on. Yes they had a good recruiting year. I was at the intersquad scrimmage and there were some huge freshman coming in. It was impossible to gage them against Mount Union simply because Mount is Mighty and Au was outclassed. Against Guilford I think we saw the inexperiance and youth come out. But that wasn't the only problem we in the stands noticed. You are correct, there was no leadership on the field. There were several starters (especially from OL) that didn't dress due to injuries. There seemed to be some confusion on the sidlines with play calling, what schemes they needed to be in on certain plays (example....50 seconds to go in the half, AU has just scored and got some momentum and AU doesn't get back in a prevent defense, knowing that Guilford is going for the bomb) Then Guilford scores on a pass where there is no defender within 20 yards of the receiver. It was also noted that the OL was hurting as AU could't stop their own grandmother from coming in on the QB. He had no time to set up and throw during the whole game. Finally, there was no running game. AU was spoiled in the past 3 years with Kyle Wilson, and so far in two games, I don't think they have come close to 100 yards on the ground. (going forward). The head coach was quoted in the newspaper after the Guilford game that the coaches didn't do their job, but promised that would change right away. As far as the youth and inexperience as well and injuries, that will take time. Lets hope they can make a better showing against W&L.

PS - the next time AU's kicker doesn't put the ball through the middle of the uprights and leaves doubt in everyones mind if the ref made correct call or not, he will go back home with a size 13 boot up his ass; Compliments of his father. (no further conversation on this needs to occur)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on September 20, 2007, 11:28:50 AM
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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2007, 12:05:57 PM
Quote from: narch on September 20, 2007, 08:17:40 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2007, 10:48:36 PM
Quote from: narch on September 19, 2007, 10:12:10 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2007, 01:05:33 PMIf the school joins the ODAC, would the newspaper have its own sportswriters?
pat...i don't really understand this question...it seems as though you are being critical of the su newspaper for allowing the sid to write sports stories...how is the author of a story in the su newspaper germane to this situation in any way??
Yes. And it's not.
why post it then? it seems reasonable to me that a sports information director would write a regular column in the school newspaper, especially if the school is having difficulty finding quality contributors...i know that was the case at mu a few years ago...maybe that's the case at su, as well...do you know the situation with regard to student contributors?

or maybe the sid just enjoys writing for the su newspaper...is that so wrong?

either way, i don't get why you feel the need to comment on the situation, other than the fact that it's your website and you can do it if you want :)

If it's truly a student newspaper, then students should do the work. It's good experience for them.

If it is not a student newspaper, then that's another thing. But a true student newspaper should be written only by students. Anyone else can write for the op-ed page.

Not sure why that's worthy of two responses from you -- seems like a fairly cut-and-dried definition.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 20, 2007, 01:06:37 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 19, 2007, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 19, 2007, 07:56:13 PM
Fighting Scot,

  Your prediction is a little biased.  The Pride beat you last year and will beat you again this year.  The only thing you have going for you is that your team is 3-0 and at home and Oh yeah your fans cut down trees in a malicious manner..


Should be a good experience and win for the pride.

What beat Romel in the desert in Africa?

Roll Pride!


Oh yeah just like you aren't biased.  Last year was just a fluke anyway.  How did you finish in the league last year??  Oh yeah that's right behind Maryville.  The only thing on the pride that will be rolling are the bus wheels back to Greensboro with a second loss.

The only thing certain in the GC and MC game is its never boring and no matter the score, don't leave - not even to pee.
First meeting MC leads 35-7 1 minute into second half at home and greensboro makes it 35-27.
Second meeting Pride lead 16-0 at half and have to race down the field with 56 ticks left to tie the game at  33 after giving up 5 second half tds.

The fact that whoever dominated early held on to win isn't necesarily a given either.

You have two sophomore qbs who are No. 4 and No. 5 in passing avg last I looked. Balance Lowe against Hightower. Both squads have made special teams a weapon (though I question the quality and need for GC to run a fake punt against Gallaudet when leading by four tds) The pride defense is experienced and tough but I think MC has more young talent. The bottom line is on paper its going to be the same as the last two, down to the wire.

My pick for public consumption is GC 39-38 in 2OT.

Just how does one use a malicious manner to cut down a tree  ??? I think you can have malicious intent legally speaking but I'm not sure your manners with the axe really matter  ::)  And as no person is yet under investigation who is to know it wasnt a Huntingdon fan and not an MC fan or maybe it was juvenile vandals or people who don't like trees or maybe Tipps had a portion of the marathon road trip he forgot to mention in his column.

Is there anybody attending the Methodist - NCW game that would be willing to text me a score at the quarters? Wireless is still "in progress' at Honaker so we can't tie in to the D3scoreboard to check on it.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 20, 2007, 01:27:00 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 20, 2007, 01:06:37 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 19, 2007, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 19, 2007, 07:56:13 PM
Fighting Scot,

  Your prediction is a little biased.  The Pride beat you last year and will beat you again this year.  The only thing you have going for you is that your team is 3-0 and at home and Oh yeah your fans cut down trees in a malicious manner..


Should be a good experience and win for the pride.

What beat Romel in the desert in Africa?

Roll Pride!


Oh yeah just like you aren't biased.  Last year was just a fluke anyway.  How did you finish in the league last year??  Oh yeah that's right behind Maryville.  The only thing on the pride that will be rolling are the bus wheels back to Greensboro with a second loss.

The only thing certain in the GC and MC game is its never boring and no matter the score, don't leave - not even to pee.
First meeting MC leads 35-7 1 minute into second half at home and greensboro makes it 35-27.
Second meeting Pride lead 16-0 at half and have to race down the field with 56 ticks left to tie the game at  33 after giving up 5 second half tds.

The fact that whoever dominated early held on to win isn't necesarily a given either.

You have two sophomore qbs who are No. 4 and No. 5 in passing avg last I looked. Balance Lowe against Hightower. Both squads have made special teams a weapon (though I question the quality and need for GC to run a fake punt against Gallaudet when leading by four tds) The pride defense is experienced and tough but I think MC has more young talent. The bottom line is on paper its going to be the same as the last two, down to the wire.

My pick for public consumption is GC 39-38 in 2OT.

Just how does one use a malicious manner to cut down a tree  ??? I think you can have malicious intent legally speaking but I'm not sure your manners with the axe really matter  ::)  And as no person is yet under investigation who is to know it wasnt a Huntingdon fan and not an MC fan or maybe it was juvenile vandals or people who don't like trees or maybe Tipps had a portion of the marathon road trip he forgot to mention in his column.Is there anybody attending the Methodist - NCW game that would be willing to text me a score at the quarters? Wireless is still "in progress' at Honaker so we can't tie in to the D3scoreboard to check on it.



     Maybe it was the "malicious" pledges from one of those secret societies at MC. I mean.....you know....if they really exist.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 20, 2007, 01:31:45 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 20, 2007, 01:06:37 PMIs there anybody attending the Methodist - NCW game that would be willing to text me a score at the quarters? Wireless is still "in progress' at Honaker so we can't tie in to the D3scoreboard to check on it.
batteredbard..i would...but it's my son's 2nd b-day and i'll be a no-show at the game...anyone who is willing to text the score to batteredbard can feel free to call me with an update :)

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2007, 12:05:57 PMIf it's truly a student newspaper, then students should do the work. It's good experience for them.

If it is not a student newspaper, then that's another thing. But a true student newspaper should be written only by students. Anyone else can write for the op-ed page.

Not sure why that's worthy of two responses from you -- seems like a fairly cut-and-dried definition.
pat - i posted twice because i once had a roomate who was an sid...he was asked by the student newspaper to write sports articles...i thought your criticism of the su sid and newspaper was uncalled for and very much off-topic...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2007, 02:20:35 PM
I think any criticism of the SU SID is in your mind. I never said anything critical of Scott Musa.

I don't think criticizing the SU newspaper is out of bounds, like criticizing any newspaper. Especially since it doesn't appear to be a student newspaper.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 20, 2007, 02:34:09 PM
Fighting Scot,

  We have your number buddy!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 20, 2007, 03:25:08 PM
Mosh
You are so tense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 20, 2007, 04:59:24 PM
Ha,

Ab, Just rocking the boat a little.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 20, 2007, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on September 19, 2007, 02:34:32 PM
Your guy Barnes was the mastermind that put this system in place in the late 90's and why we don't get rid of it as well I have no idea. Neither team will ever be in a shoot out that's for sure.

oh great...  I had forgotten Ferrum runs it too.  Maybe I'll skip the Wing-Boring Super Bowl this weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 20, 2007, 06:33:26 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on September 20, 2007, 08:05:24 AM
 im not knocking SU at all, but i do think the days of their wing-t style offense is through until they get another big time fullback. Looking at their team on the roster, they have some pretty big kids at reciever, maybe they should throw the ball which opens up the run. Force teams to cover your spread and run it underneath. Barnes is a college coach, he should know this, but at the same time, why is he not doing it? SU fans, any thoughts?

Plus, they need some more Hoss' up front to make the running game more effective.  It doesn't matter who you have in the backfield if you can't win at the line of scrimage.

2 or 3 years ago they had two all-conf. receivers who were both at least 6'4" and we didn't throw to them...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 20, 2007, 06:36:52 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 20, 2007, 10:20:59 AM


51, I have attended both of AU's games and I think everyone is confused as to what is going on. Yes they had a good recruiting year. I was at the intersquad scrimmage and there were some huge freshman coming in. It was impossible to gage them against Mount Union simply because Mount is Mighty and Au was outclassed. Against Guilford I think we saw the inexperiance and youth come out. But that wasn't the only problem we in the stands noticed. You are correct, there was no leadership on the field. There were several starters (especially from OL) that didn't dress due to injuries. There seemed to be some confusion on the sidlines with play calling, what schemes they needed to be in on certain plays (example....50 seconds to go in the half, AU has just scored and got some momentum and AU doesn't get back in a prevent defense, knowing that Guilford is going for the bomb) Then Guilford scores on a pass where there is no defender within 20 yards of the receiver. It was also noted that the OL was hurting as AU could't stop their own grandmother from coming in on the QB. He had no time to set up and throw during the whole game. Finally, there was no running game. AU was spoiled in the past 3 years with Kyle Wilson, and so far in two games, I don't think they have come close to 100 yards on the ground. (going forward). The head coach was quoted in the newspaper after the Guilford game that the coaches didn't do their job, but promised that would change right away. As far as the youth and inexperience as well and injuries, that will take time. Lets hope they can make a better showing against W&L.

PS - the next time AU's kicker doesn't put the ball through the middle of the uprights and leaves doubt in everyones mind if the ref made correct call or not, he will go back home with a size 13 boot up his ass; Compliments of his father. (no further conversation on this needs to occur)

I think you need to wait a couple of weeks before throwing in the towel.  Conference games are the only ones that matter and AU still has a chance to pull it together.  Ask again in three weeks.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 20, 2007, 07:33:29 PM
Mosh,

Just keep rockin' the boat right now b/c we are gonna have the last laugh come saturday... :-X
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 20, 2007, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2007, 02:20:35 PM
I think any criticism of the SU SID is in your mind. I never said anything critical of Scott Musa.
sorry...i thought that by asking if the paper would "have its own sportswriters?" you were implying that the sid should not be writing for the newspaper and being critical of the fact that he wrote for the school paper...i guess i was wrong
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2007, 02:20:35 PM
I don't think criticizing the SU newspaper is out of bounds, like criticizing any newspaper. Especially since it doesn't appear to be a student newspaper.
now i'm confused again...wasn't your criticism about not using students...if it's not a student newspaper, wouldn't the sid qualify as one of "it's own sportswiters"...

the most important questions, however, are these...did coach sypult coach the defense up enough to stop the battling bishops this weekend? do the hornets have enough offense to beat the panthers? will the pride roll or roll over against the scots? can averett get a w against an odac front-runner? did the captains bye week come at the perfect time? and will OJ spend the rest of his life in prison? :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2007, 09:19:33 PM
Narch:

I know you haven't really followed the gist of this conversation, since you've blown up a one-liner into a two-day event, but I have since learned that this newspaper doesn't even really pretend to be a student newspaper.

Doesn't mean that there shouldn't be a student writing sports as a training ground for the real world.
Doesn't mean that a real student newspaper shouldn't be written solely by students.
Doesn't mean that I dislike Shenandoah's SID or his work.
It just is what it is. Please consider letting it go. Thanks muchly.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 20, 2007, 10:28:19 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2007, 09:19:33 PM
Narch:

I know you haven't really followed the gist of this conversation, since you've blown up a one-liner into a two-day event, but I have since learned that this newspaper doesn't even really pretend to be a student newspaper.

In Narch's defense, the first time I read it I had the same view.  But now see where you are coming from Pat. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 20, 2007, 10:34:52 PM
Quote from: SU97 on September 20, 2007, 06:36:52 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 20, 2007, 10:20:59 AM


51, I have attended both of AU's games and I think everyone is confused as to what is going on. Yes they had a good recruiting year. I was at the intersquad scrimmage and there were some huge freshman coming in. It was impossible to gage them against Mount Union simply because Mount is Mighty and Au was outclassed. Against Guilford I think we saw the inexperiance and youth come out. But that wasn't the only problem we in the stands noticed. You are correct, there was no leadership on the field. There were several starters (especially from OL) that didn't dress due to injuries. There seemed to be some confusion on the sidlines with play calling, what schemes they needed to be in on certain plays (example....50 seconds to go in the half, AU has just scored and got some momentum and AU doesn't get back in a prevent defense, knowing that Guilford is going for the bomb) Then Guilford scores on a pass where there is no defender within 20 yards of the receiver. It was also noted that the OL was hurting as AU could't stop their own grandmother from coming in on the QB. He had no time to set up and throw during the whole game. Finally, there was no running game. AU was spoiled in the past 3 years with Kyle Wilson, and so far in two games, I don't think they have come close to 100 yards on the ground. (going forward). The head coach was quoted in the newspaper after the Guilford game that the coaches didn't do their job, but promised that would change right away. As far as the youth and inexperience as well and injuries, that will take time. Lets hope they can make a better showing against W&L.

PS - the next time AU's kicker doesn't put the ball through the middle of the uprights and leaves doubt in everyones mind if the ref made correct call or not, he will go back home with a size 13 boot up his ass; Compliments of his father. (no further conversation on this needs to occur)

I think you need to wait a couple of weeks before throwing in the towel.  Conference games are the only ones that matter and AU still has a chance to pull it together.  Ask again in three weeks.



97, thanks for the up lift. Didn't mean to make it sound like I was throwing in the towel however after watching AU the past two years put togeather 2 winning seasons and share the conf. title with CNU last year, it's frustrating to see them in this tail spin. I understand having to rebuild and losing 22 seniors is tuff, but the upperclass guys from the past two years need to step up and show they can play and lead. Right now the team is really down and these guys haven't come to the rescue yet. I think a good showing against W&L will give them a shot in the arm and send them into conf. play with a better attitude. I am confident Mike Dunlevy will have them ready for conf. play and things will get better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 20, 2007, 10:47:50 PM
Quote from: narch on September 20, 2007, 09:13:31 PM
the most important questions, however, are these...did coach sypult coach the defense up enough to stop the battling bishops this weekend?

sorry Narch, not this year.  NCWC by 2 TD's

Quote from: narch on September 20, 2007, 09:13:31 PM
do the hornets have enough offense to beat the panthers?

The only positive with the wing-boring super bowl is that the clock will never stop and we'll be out of there by 8:35 pm.  SU defense scores 3 TD's and the outside linebacker hits the winning field goal in the closing seconds.   SU by 1.

Quote from: narch on September 20, 2007, 09:13:31 PM
will the pride roll or roll over against the scots?

What is a pride anyways?  William Wallace by 4 touchdowns.


Quote from: narch on September 20, 2007, 09:13:31 PM
can averett get a w against an odac front-runner?

Old South over USA South defending Champ by a touchdown.  (but Kickerdad's kid hits 4 FG)


Quote from: narch on September 20, 2007, 09:13:31 PM
did the captains bye week come at the perfect time?

It's a state school conspiracy...  You heard me CNU85, no private schools in the conference have this weekend off... ;D

Quote from: narch on September 20, 2007, 09:13:31 PM
and will OJ spend the rest of his life in prison? :)

I heard PSBBG is driving the White Bronco on I-95 as we speak...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 20, 2007, 10:50:32 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 20, 2007, 10:34:52 PM

97, thanks for the up lift. Didn't mean to make it sound like I was throwing in the towel however after watching AU the past two years put togeather 2 winning seasons and share the conf. title with CNU last year, it's frustrating to see them in this tail spin. I understand having to rebuild and losing 22 seniors is tuff, but the upperclass guys from the past two years need to step up and show they can play and lead. Right now the team is really down and these guys haven't come to the rescue yet. I think a good showing against W&L will give them a shot in the arm and send them into conf. play with a better attitude. I am confident Mike Dunlevy will have them ready for conf. play and things will get better.

Yeah, SU has been through the same thing.  But I think you guys have more returning and didn't have the same drop off like we did a couple of years ago...  Your OOC schedule was brutal, so it's a clean slate now. There's lots of football left to play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2007, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: SU97 on September 20, 2007, 10:47:50 PM

I heard PSBBG is driving the White Bronco on I-95 as we speak...

first of all if I were driving anything, it would not be a White Bronco, because I don't like Fords. The only thing right about that statement is, well, I would be driving on I-95.  I do not know how offensive that statement was, but to many it would be quite offensive.

Maryville-GC game believe it or not is probably the most important game this weekend.

Plus, Believe it or not, I really think MU will win this weekend, and if they don't I believe it will demostrate why NCWC will not win the conference.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 21, 2007, 05:41:49 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2007, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: SU97 on September 20, 2007, 10:47:50 PM

I heard PSBBG is driving the White Bronco on I-95 as we speak...

first of all if I were driving anything, it would not be a White Bronco, because I don't like Fords. The only thing right about that statement is, well, I would be driving on I-95.  I do not know how offensive that statement was, but to many it would be quite offensive.

Maryville-GC game believe it or not is probably the most important game this weekend.

Plus, Believe it or not, I really think MU will win this weekend, and if they don't I believe it will demostrate why NCWC will not win the conference.



   In my view, certainly the biggest game in the USAC. Not sure where Ryan got that ridiculous spread from though.  ;)  SCOTS WIN...SCOTS WIN....SCOTS WIN.....but don't cover the spread though.  ;D
   I don't see NCWC winning the conf. title either. Expectations have been very high this year for the Bishops. They need a breakout game this weekend IMO if they are to have any chance of meeting them.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2007, 08:58:20 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on September 21, 2007, 05:41:49 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2007, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: SU97 on September 20, 2007, 10:47:50 PM

I heard PSBBG is driving the White Bronco on I-95 as we speak...

first of all if I were driving anything, it would not be a White Bronco, because I don't like Fords. The only thing right about that statement is, well, I would be driving on I-95.  I do not know how offensive that statement was, but to many it would be quite offensive.

Maryville-GC game believe it or not is probably the most important game this weekend.

Plus, Believe it or not, I really think MU will win this weekend, and if they don't I believe it will demostrate why NCWC will not win the conference.



   In my view, certainly the biggest game in the USAC. Not sure where Ryan got that ridiculous spread from though.  ;)  SCOTS WIN...SCOTS WIN....SCOTS WIN.....but don't cover the spread though.  ;D
   I don't see NCWC winning the conf. title either. Expectations have been very high this year for the Bishops. They need a breakout game this weekend IMO if they are to have any chance of meeting them.  8)

Maybe he took alot of factors into it we don't even know, Maybe he knows the game time temp, the wind factor, the length of the grass factor, etc.  Ryan has surprised me in the past.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 21, 2007, 09:35:46 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on September 21, 2007, 05:41:49 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2007, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: SU97 on September 20, 2007, 10:47:50 PM

I heard PSBBG is driving the White Bronco on I-95 as we speak...

first of all if I were driving anything, it would not be a White Bronco, because I don't like Fords. The only thing right about that statement is, well, I would be driving on I-95.  I do not know how offensive that statement was, but to many it would be quite offensive.

Maryville-GC game believe it or not is probably the most important game this weekend.

Plus, Believe it or not, I really think MU will win this weekend, and if they don't I believe it will demostrate why NCWC will not win the conference.



   In my view, certainly the biggest game in the USAC. Not sure where Ryan got that ridiculous spread from though.  ;)  SCOTS WIN...SCOTS WIN....SCOTS WIN.....but don't cover the spread though.  ;D
   I don't see NCWC winning the conf. title either. Expectations have been very high this year for the Bishops. They need a breakout game this weekend IMO if they are to have any chance of meeting them.  8)

Yeah without a doubt it is the biggest game.  That coupled with the bad blood between the teams is gonna make this an awesome game to watch.  There will definately be some hitting going on.  Maryville will bring the noise and come out on top.  Go Scots!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 21, 2007, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 21, 2007, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: SU97 on September 20, 2007, 10:47:50 PM

I heard PSBBG is driving the White Bronco on I-95 as we speak...

first of all if I were driving anything, it would not be a White Bronco, because I don't like Fords. The only thing right about that statement is, well, I would be driving on I-95.  I do not know how offensive that statement was, but to many it would be quite offensive.

Maryville-GC game believe it or not is probably the most important game this weekend.

Plus, Believe it or not, I really think MU will win this weekend, and if they don't I believe it will demostrate why NCWC will not win the conference.
Pride, are you trying to sell OJ memorabilia?  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 21, 2007, 09:58:53 AM
Which team will show up for NCWC against MU?....

Only once in this young season has NCWC played anything like a complete game and that was away against Wesley. It will be interesting to see how they fare on the road again. Crunch time has arrived! Should be a good game! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 21, 2007, 10:18:41 AM
The GC MC game is going to bring a little de ja vu to the MC's President because we are going to chop them down just like the new trees they put in endzone.


PSBBGGEBI,
What kind of fan are you?

The battle of the wing t's...At least ferrum spreads it out with some shotty and or the new and improved pistol.

Roll Pride, Chopem Down
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: mybleedinghands on September 21, 2007, 10:50:12 AM
Shenandoah University has officially announced it's desire to join the ODAC. Read page 6 of this newsletter for more info http://www.su.edu/pr/publications/sun/Sept19.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 21, 2007, 11:21:30 AM
Quote from: Scottie Too Hottie on September 21, 2007, 10:50:12 AM
Shenandoah University has officially announced it's desire to join the ODAC. Read page 6 of this newsletter for more info http://www.su.edu/pr/publications/sun/Sept19.pdf


Welcome back to the boards, Scottie! (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4562.4845)   ;)  That post just ran right past you.  Touchdown, Uncle Jessie!

You know, if you have been away from the boards, it takes a few posts to get up to speed.  Kinda like pre-season, when we posters start making inane remarks in August.   :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 21, 2007, 02:46:50 PM
SU97 -

not really a conspiracy....just the state school kids need a weekend at the mall to spend the extra money they have in their pockets after paying tuition!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 21, 2007, 04:30:05 PM
One thing from watching the podcasts web casts and whatever tape I can find to look at some other games besides what I see, I think this is the year of the pass.
When teams are putting ends out there that 5 or 10 years ago would have been linebackers I keepin things bunched, I don't see many teams able to run the ball very well. The ones I have seen have a combo big line and great back or they set the run by making the other guy respect the pass. Not many folks are all that succesful on the ground this year especially first half.

With that vain of thought:
Ferrum gets the close win over Shenandoah in the battle of ancient offenses.

Greensboro edges Murvul in 2OT by Lowe catching, nor unning in the deciding conversion

Methodist pulls the shocker and we all wonder what happned to Wesleyan over the summer.

AU and W&L - no pick, only USAC games matter now

CNU - wishes they had a game after a brutal four hour Sat practice :)

The Murvul trees survive another week but eventually brown to unnoticed poison spikes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 21, 2007, 05:44:38 PM
And i forgot
for MC and GC fans that can't get enough this link will take you this week's feature on QB Lucas Wall and that story has a link to the weekly notebook.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070921/SPORTS/70921012 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070921/SPORTS/70921012)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 22, 2007, 12:11:30 AM
Mosh
I know........... I was just pushing your button too. :) You da man bro.

Good luck this weekend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on September 22, 2007, 08:43:19 AM
Fellas, I see it like this for today.
NCWC over MU in a good game right to the end 27 -21
Maryville no trouble defeats  GC
W&L wallops Averett
Ferrum vs SU most exciting game of the day
Ferrum wins in a shootout
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 22, 2007, 01:40:27 PM
16-3 NCW over MU about 1 minute left in 1st

MU justed missed FG
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 22, 2007, 01:54:42 PM
M'ville was driving....another INT by GC ends it...0-0 in first
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 22, 2007, 02:12:24 PM
NCWC 30, MU  3 ,  4 min left in first half
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 22, 2007, 02:14:12 PM
7-0 MC over GC 13:35 left in second qt
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 22, 2007, 02:22:12 PM
2 min remaining in half, NCWC 37, MU 3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 22, 2007, 02:24:54 PM
Quote from: Old Ref on September 22, 2007, 02:22:12 PM
2 min remaining in half, NCWC 37, MU 3

I can hear Don Meredith singing!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 22, 2007, 02:35:06 PM
At the half....NCWC 40, MU 3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 22, 2007, 04:16:16 PM
Mosh,

Who has who's number???  Enjoy that loss and bus ride back to Greensboro.  Here is a pat on the back for ya we didn't cover the spread we only won by 17... GO SCOTS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 22, 2007, 05:55:09 PM
wow...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 22, 2007, 06:07:39 PM
Narch, I think MU caught NCWC about as high as they can go today.... but I think NCWC caught MU about as low as they can go.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 22, 2007, 06:12:12 PM
Yeah it was one of those games where nothing went right for MU and Everything went right for NCWC.  Hopefully they got it all out of their system and come out flat against Maryville... :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 22, 2007, 07:09:17 PM
You guys may have been stealing signals..That is very possible
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 22, 2007, 07:37:17 PM
The Scots must have been wearing underwear today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 22, 2007, 07:47:02 PM
boxers, briefs, or thongs? ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 22, 2007, 09:55:15 PM
wow...Ferrum took it to the hornets tonight.....in Shentel!!! 44-21
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 22, 2007, 10:16:09 PM
more useless stats.....

average points scored AGAINST USA South teams....not much Defense this year....watch out for Maryville:

CNU - 34
AU - 52
FC - 32
GC - 19
Meth - 44
M'Ville - 12
SU - 25
NCW - 22

Total Conf - giving up an average of 29 points per game.

Total games giving up more than 40 points - 8 out of 28 played (5 different teams giving up more than 40)
more than 50 - 5 games (4 different teams)

Looks like some old style AFL (not Arena....American Football League) type games coming up!!! Who knows ...maybe some Arena type scores, too?!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 23, 2007, 01:38:01 AM
I know everyone is waiting for a comment from me about the game, well I am not.  I think the box score is enough.  I listened to the pridenet broadcast, I thought the two young guys did a good job. It was a really good broadcast. I thought they did a good job on the pregame show as well.  I could tell it was color commentators first game doing a broadcast. "So many, 'uhs'" in that first quarter.  Overall I thought the research was good by the two announcers. 

SOUPER BOWL WEEK NOW!!! May the cans and points be plentiful. There should be lots of fans this weekend.  It will be GC's (Greensboro's) family weekend.

However I will say this, I was right about Wesley  :)

You think I am ready to jump on the NCWC bandwagon yet. NOPE. I might have expected a closer game today, but MU has not had a defense this year, as some of you have said.  How could anyone expect a close game?  We know NCWC is great on offense, and today is no exception; MU has given up more than 500+ yards per game.
Big test this week for Maryville and a big test for NCWC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on September 23, 2007, 05:02:03 AM
YEAH, YEAH BallBoy----- nobody wants you on that wagon. Negativity comes
alot easier for most people and obviously you're with most. NCWC plays a
decent brand of defense. The offensive potential is there but it depends on
the offensive line. You've been dissin NCWC from the start, well KEEP IT UP.
It fits you well. Big PROPS to Maryville, they've represented the USASAC
very well this season. M'ville should be fired up because NCW scheduled them
for Homecoming. This will be the game of the week. This will be another grudge
game for NCW. They loss a close one to M'ville in OT last year. Hey Fellas,  I went
4-0 in my picks this week; it won't happen again this season. GO BISHOPS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 23, 2007, 11:29:03 AM
So when the stats come in and get updated, will it be the conference's best paper offense vs the conferences best paper defense when MC goes over the mountain?

I think we saw two young qbs play the toughest defenses either had seen this year. Caparaso and Wall both did better in the second half. Both could have been picked off an extra time.

As for the phantom fumble at the goal line. The photos don't lie. Hightower scored stretched arm slamming the ball against the endzone turf where GC defender pulled it out. The photogs caught the sequence in frame and its pretty clear officials blew the call but sisnce it didn't change the outcome I doubt anyone will cry about it. But the head official may want to have a word with that crew. They had several issues with determining when a play was actually over that hurt both teams. yes that makes it a wash but it also was asking to get someone hurt unnessecarily when you don't blow the whistle allowing the pile on to go too far.

Game package from the Daily Times featuring game story by former MC pitcher The Pete Herbert (300 pitches in 8 days last spring against Emory and in GSAC tourney games)

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070923/SPORTS/70923006 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070923/SPORTS/70923006)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 11:35:21 AM
So, since replay showed Hightower actually scored that touchdown, will Mr. Tipps add those points to the final Scots total; thus the scots cover the points spread and I get 5 points not 4 for the week?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 23, 2007, 02:06:47 PM
85

Chaps
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 23, 2007, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 11:35:21 AM
So, since replay showed Hightower actually scored that touchdown, will Mr. Tipps add those points to the final Scots total; thus the scots cover the points spread and I get 5 points not 4 for the week?

And ruin the first time that I've actually gotten my "sure thing" pick correct (by choosing Gboro with the points)?!

Not bloodly likely!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 04:24:19 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on September 23, 2007, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 11:35:21 AM
So, since replay showed Hightower actually scored that touchdown, will Mr. Tipps add those points to the final Scots total; thus the scots cover the points spread and I get 5 points not 4 for the week?

And ruin the first time that I've actually gotten my "sure thing" pick correct (by choosing Gboro with the points)?!

Not bloodly likely!  ;D

If you can live with yourself with that tainted correct pick you go right ahead...  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 23, 2007, 05:52:43 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 23, 2007, 02:06:47 PM
85

Chaps

Narch specials? faux leather?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 23, 2007, 06:07:52 PM
Faux leather...and ... well ... backless!!!   ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 23, 2007, 07:31:06 PM
papi, abnrgr - y'all is nasTy...with a capital "T"

:D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 07:41:51 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 23, 2007, 11:29:03 AM
So when the stats come in and get updated, will it be the conference's best paper offense vs the conferences best paper defense when MC goes over the mountain?

I think we saw two young qbs play the toughest defenses either had seen this year. Caparaso and Wall both did better in the second half. Both could have been picked off an extra time.

As for the phantom fumble at the goal line. The photos don't lie. Hightower scored stretched arm slamming the ball against the endzone turf where GC defender pulled it out. The photogs caught the sequence in frame and its pretty clear officials blew the call but sisnce it didn't change the outcome I doubt anyone will cry about it. But the head official may want to have a word with that crew. They had several issues with determining when a play was actually over that hurt both teams. yes that makes it a wash but it also was asking to get someone hurt unnessecarily when you don't blow the whistle allowing the pile on to go too far.

Game package from the Daily Times featuring game story by former MC pitcher The Pete Herbert (300 pitches in 8 days last spring against Emory and in GSAC tourney games)

http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070923/SPORTS/70923006 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070923/SPORTS/70923006)

Do you have a picture you could link that shows that?  I would like to see :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 23, 2007, 09:07:55 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 11:35:21 AM
So, since replay showed Hightower actually scored that touchdown, will Mr. Tipps add those points to the final Scots total; thus the scots cover the points spread and I get 5 points not 4 for the week?

Your team won 24-7.  You are complaining about the fumble.  Did Greensboro get anything out of it? From what I was told there was a TD Greensboro had in back of the endzone that was called incomplete.  From what I heard the GC WR had one foot in, and if he didn't, he was pushed out of bounds. Even if I am telling a story right there, calls are made and sometimes missed. Get over it.  If it wasn't a fumble for Hightower, then it is just as likely the other fumbles in the game weren't fumbles either.

Just move on, prepare for NCWC.  GC will move on and prepare for GC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 09:12:31 PM
wow someone is bitter...  Dude chill out... I was kidding around with Ryan Tipps not you... have a nice day...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on September 23, 2007, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 09:12:31 PM
wow someone is bitter...  Dude chill out... I was kidding around with Ryan Tipps not you... have a nice day...

Dude I tell you what is so freakin funny about that article. They cant spell a players name even by looking at the roster. I tell you it was a sloppy game on both sides
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 23, 2007, 09:37:06 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 09:12:31 PM
wow someone is bitter...  Dude chill out... I was kidding around with Ryan Tipps not you... have a nice day...

I am not bitter, but bringing up something that had no real effect on the game, comes off as complaining about a call.  Narch even said last year, about complaining about the calls of refs is really just nonsense.  In a game that was 24-7, there is no need to really bring it up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 09:46:44 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on September 23, 2007, 09:20:11 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 09:12:31 PM
wow someone is bitter...  Dude chill out... I was kidding around with Ryan Tipps not you... have a nice day...

Dude I tell you what is so freakin funny about that article. They cant spell a players name even by looking at the roster. I tell you it was a sloppy game on both sides

What article and who's name was it?  

The game was sloppy but MC totally dominated Lowe and kept him as a non factor in the game.  In containing him, it basically killed any chance Greensboro had at offensive production.  Yes, Greensboro moved the ball some here or there but without him in the picture they are very limited on what they can do.

PrideSportsBBallGuy,

First off, someone else brought it up in a previous post.  Second, it was just said jokingly to Ryan because of the pick 'ems totals.  Why are you blowing this up over nothing?  It was a joke to him... drop it. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 23, 2007, 10:43:11 PM
Can I get a price check on 'Chill Pills'  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 10:45:58 PM
evidently they are at a premium right now lol  :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 10:46:49 PM
he might just need a hug (or a really really big beer  :D  )
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 24, 2007, 09:02:25 AM
Man...After 20 yrs of officiating, I get back in town and find out I have been wrong all those years....and to think,  I thought you guys loved us...(ha,Ha) :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 24, 2007, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: Old Ref on September 24, 2007, 09:02:25 AM
Man...After 20 yrs of officiating, I get back in town and find out I have been wrong all those years....and to think,  I thought you guys loved us...(ha,Ha) :)

we do love you... well depending on the call  ;D ha ha
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 24, 2007, 10:39:19 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 24, 2007, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: Old Ref on September 24, 2007, 09:02:25 AM
Man...After 20 yrs of officiating, I get back in town and find out I have been wrong all those years....and to think,  I thought you guys loved us...(ha,Ha) :)

we do love you... well depending on the call  ;D ha ha

I like an honest man......... :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 24, 2007, 11:47:17 AM
Another hard loss to swallow was forced on to me last Saturday night at Shentel Stadium. It really is not much to say for the score speaks for itself 44-21 . But I will try to give my view of the game :-\. Paul Diggs had 100 yards. The special teams made some big plays at times and the defense picked up two fumbles, plus the team scored 3 touchdowns. But after watching the entire melt down of the defensive unit of the Hornets in the 3rd QT its becoming pretty clear that some changes are going to be made in the off season at SU. Either it will be a head coach or some assistant coaches. CNU is this week and I'm terrified as to what the final score will be on Saturday afternoon. I'm worried that the team has given up and just wants to play the season out as fast as possible. In the 2nd half of last weekends game they just did not play like they wanted to win. Frustration on the field was clear as the Hornets were starting to throw punches and collect penalties, interceptions ect. I would not be surprised if CNU score's into the 50's this weekend. Punter Chris Dooley was one of the only few bright spots as usual for the team. He had 6 punts avg. 38.8 yds and his long one was 51. It looks like he better keep that leg protected as he most likely will have a workout when he plays in Pomoco this week. :-[
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 24, 2007, 12:36:06 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on September 23, 2007, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2007, 11:35:21 AM
So, since replay showed Hightower actually scored that touchdown, will Mr. Tipps add those points to the final Scots total; thus the scots cover the points spread and I get 5 points not 4 for the week?

And ruin the first time that I've actually gotten my "sure thing" pick correct (by choosing Gboro with the points)?!


Ryan,

Looked for you Saturday night but never found you. However wasn't able to get close to the sidelines there at Salem. Those folks are scared someone might step on the turf and flatten it. Even after the game they made the parents walk out the gate and out into the parking lot, back to the back gate; in order to see their sons. (seemed like a mile walk) Plus didn't understand why they wanted everyone (both W&L & AU) to sit on the same side. That could have been a problem. The Salem staff must have had issues or just been tired after the 1PM game. They certainly weren't as friendly as I have heard people say they are. Also, the proceeds of this game was to go Habit for Humanity, but other than the couple of words the announcer made before the game, nothing was said and never saw anyone from that organization in attendance.  ??? ???

Let me know if you are going to make any of the other games and I will attempt to due a better job and locating you.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 24, 2007, 01:14:45 PM
Proud Scot
You mean a hug like a closet hug or a screaming hug...........I mean Papi is willing to learn if gets him the job.................  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 24, 2007, 01:43:36 PM
Probably not unreasonable with 850 people in a 7,800-seat stadium to close half the seats down, save on security, etc.

I'm sure they didn't open all of the press boxes either. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 24, 2007, 02:16:33 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 24, 2007, 01:14:45 PM
Proud Scot
You mean a hug like a closet hug or a screaming hug...........I mean Papi is willing to learn if gets him the job.................  ;)

No I was meaning the guys who were getting all excited and worked up about nothing.  It is a dead issue now (I hope).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 24, 2007, 03:47:20 PM
Like I said originally, the phantom fumble didn't affect the outcome. I didn't relate it well enough in the description, my issue was with the slow whistles, which that play was an example of. Lowe nearly got bent backwards a few times before thw whistle blew. Several times it degenerated into the rugby scrum with the ball carrier no where in sight. Players will keep fighting until they whistle and even then a tick beyond, being slow with the blow can instigate problems father than a first base umpire discussing poo with Milton Bradley. That was the point not the call.

I couldn't see the first catch ruled out of the end zone for GC the other two clearly were out the side and the back but the first one did look close. I'm sure Slay pushed him out the back but then that's legal in college.

Which player's name was misspelled and in which story? I haven't been able to find it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 24, 2007, 04:30:03 PM
For Everyone's reading pleasure

http://www.d3football.com/pressreleases.php?release=1868

USA South's Players of the week.  A well deserved showing of Ferrum.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 24, 2007, 04:41:50 PM
Here is the article in todays Star about the FC/Su game.
"The Hornets missed out on several chances to put points on the board and keep Ferrum off it:
* A potential interception that was mishandled and went for a completion led to the Panthers taking a 3-0 lead with a field goal on the first possession of the game.
* Shenandoah had a field goal blocked on the ensuing possession.
* A 38-yard completion on second-and-12 from Ferrum's own 2, a second mishandled potential interception that went for a completion and a holding call on a third-and-goal pass play that made it first-and-goal at the 5 helped Ferrum score the touchdown that made it 14-10."By Robert Niedzwiecki
The Winchester Star http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=1312

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 24, 2007, 05:56:44 PM
I think I can offer a possible solution to why USASouth is 7-15 out of conference, 8 FR and SO are amongst the the leaders in passing in the conference. The only other two that are not are a JR and a SR.  We have a young QB conference this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 24, 2007, 07:00:55 PM
Pat, Im very sorry for posting the wrong link. I could not belive that happend. :o Just caught up in the moment looking at other things I guess :-\ Again im sorry about that. Here is the real link to the SU/CNU game notes. http://www.su.edu/athletics/Football_gn.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 24, 2007, 07:34:28 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 24, 2007, 11:47:17 AM
Another hard loss to swallow was forced on to me last Saturday night at Shentel Stadium. It really is not much to say for the score speaks for itself 44-21 . But I will try to give my view of the game :-\. Paul Diggs had 100 yards. The special teams made some big plays at times and the defense picked up two fumbles, plus the team scored 3 touchdowns. But after watching the entire melt down of the defensive unit of the Hornets in the 3rd QT its becoming pretty clear that some changes are going to be made in the off season at SU. Either it will be a head coach or some assistant coaches. CNU is this week and I'm terrified as to what the final score will be on Saturday afternoon. I'm worried that the team has given up and just wants to play the season out as fast as possible. In the 2nd half of last weekends game they just did not play like they wanted to win. Frustration on the field was clear as the Hornets were starting to throw punches and collect penalties, interceptions ect. I would not be surprised if CNU score's into the 50's this weekend. Punter Chris Dooley was one of the only few bright spots as usual for the team. He had 6 punts avg. 38.8 yds and his long one was 51. It looks like he better keep that leg protected as he most likely will have a workout when he plays in Pomoco this week. :-[

I really cannot find anything positive to say about the total SU effort on Saturday.  Special teams gave SU two GREAT opportunities inside the red zone in the first half and SU got nothing out of it.  After holding the Hornets on 4th and goal twice, Ferrum deserved the win.  I think that sums up the entire effort.  It appears that the Ferrum coaching staff made some massive halftime adjustments that obviously highlighted SU's deficiencies on both sides of the ball. Kuddos to the Ferrum staff.

Is it basketball season yet?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 24, 2007, 08:38:54 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 24, 2007, 07:00:55 PM
Pat, Im very sorry for posting the wrong link. I could not belive that happend. :o Just caught up in the moment looking at other things I guess :-\ Again im sorry about that. Here is the real link to the SU/CNU game notes. http://www.su.edu/athletics/Football_gn.pdf

Uncle Jessie:  I believe the correct link is...  http//www.cnuasswhoopingofsu.com
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 24, 2007, 09:29:29 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 24, 2007, 12:36:06 PM
Ryan,

Looked for you Saturday night but never found you. However wasn't able to get close to the sidelines there at Salem. Those folks are scared someone might step on the turf and flatten it. Even after the game they made the parents walk out the gate and out into the parking lot, back to the back gate; in order to see their sons. (seemed like a mile walk) Plus didn't understand why they wanted everyone (both W&L & AU) to sit on the same side. That could have been a problem. The Salem staff must have had issues or just been tired after the 1PM game. They certainly weren't as friendly as I have heard people say they are. Also, the proceeds of this game was to go Habit for Humanity, but other than the couple of words the announcer made before the game, nothing was said and never saw anyone from that organization in attendance.  ??? ???

Let me know if you are going to make any of the other games and I will attempt to due a better job and locating you.

Kickerdad,
I spent about the first half on the sidelines, and then chatted in the stands the rest of the game with AU's SID. So, I was around, just not as mobile as usual.

And unless Averett makes it to the playoffs, that was probably the only game of yours I'm going to make this year. Next season, perhaps.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 24, 2007, 10:32:10 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on September 24, 2007, 09:29:29 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 24, 2007, 12:36:06 PM
Ryan,

Looked for you Saturday night but never found you. However wasn't able to get close to the sidelines there at Salem. Those folks are scared someone might step on the turf and flatten it. Even after the game they made the parents walk out the gate and out into the parking lot, back to the back gate; in order to see their sons. (seemed like a mile walk) Plus didn't understand why they wanted everyone (both W&L & AU) to sit on the same side. That could have been a problem. The Salem staff must have had issues or just been tired after the 1PM game. They certainly weren't as friendly as I have heard people say they are. Also, the proceeds of this game was to go Habit for Humanity, but other than the couple of words the announcer made before the game, nothing was said and never saw anyone from that organization in attendance.  ??? ???

Let me know if you are going to make any of the other games and I will attempt to due a better job and locating you.

Kickerdad,
I spent about the first half on the sidelines, and then chatted in the stands the rest of the game with AU's SID. So, I was around, just not as mobile as usual.

And unless Averett makes it to the playoffs, that was probably the only game of yours I'm going to make this year. Next season, perhaps.

Well, I guess it will be next year then. Sorry you didn't get to see a better effort from Averett. We've shot ourselves in the foot over and over the last two weeks. We should have won against W&L....but too many mistakes. We beat ourselves with dumb mistakes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Showstoppa on September 24, 2007, 11:40:14 PM
Kicker dad i'm not quite buying in to this shot our selfs in the foot theory, I belive that Sr. class last year may have been a bit to much to lose. I think its going to be a few years till AU can be that strong again
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wilburt on September 25, 2007, 07:25:47 AM
Chowan to join CIAA football conference in 2008

The Associated Press


Chowan will join the Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association as a football-only member beginning next season, school and league officials said Monday.

"Chowan University is thrilled at the opportunity to become a part of the CIAA football culture," president M. Christopher White said.

Chowan, a private Baptist school with an enrollment of about 900, has been an independent since moving to Division II two years ago and joins the country's oldest conference for historically black colleges and universities. Chowan is located in the northeast North Carolina city of Murfreesboro, near CIAA member Elizabeth City State.

"Our vision for the CIAA is to grow all aspects of the conference including educational synergies, athletic competition and to create a dynamic mixture of culture, history and geographic relevance," conference commissioner Leon G. Kerry said. "We feel that Chowan University joining our football program is a great step on that path."

http://www.theledger.com/article/20070924/APS/709240849

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 25, 2007, 08:31:37 AM
wilburt:

Interesting article about Chowan.  Lincoln's Football program will resume back into the CIAA in 2008.  It looks like Lincoln and Chowan will be replacing Winston-Salem State and North Carolina Central that moved up to the MEAC.

Lincoln is currently playing alot of CIAA schools in other sports this season in preparation for officially joining the CIAA.

How does the Bulldogs look this year? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2007, 10:29:18 AM
Actually Lincoln is starting intercollegiate play in 2009. The 2008 Lincoln season as a club season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 25, 2007, 10:31:40 AM
Quote from: Showstoppa on September 24, 2007, 11:40:14 PM
Kicker dad i'm not quite buying in to this shot our selfs in the foot theory, I belive that Sr. class last year may have been a bit to much to lose. I think its going to be a few years till AU can be that strong again

Showstoppa,

I agree that Sr. class was a tough loss. However it is not like the Sr's,Jr's and So's that are playing today didn't have experience. They did.

When you jump offsides 7 or 8 times @ game and the opposing team is in the red zone, that's giving them yardage that they aren't earning. When you let your QB get killed because you can't move your feet or can't get out of your stance fast enough that is unacceptable at the college level (whether you are playing D1 or DIII). Unncessary penalties for unsportsman like conduct, pass interference, face mask on a big play by the other team is shooting yourself in the foot. Letting them return a punt 60 yards when you had two guys standing in front of him when he caught the ball and when you do get the lead you let them run the ensuing kickoff back 60 or 70 yards and lose that momentum is shooting yourself in the foot. Defense not being set and ready because someone can't get the defensive signals right and the other team is at the ball and snapping before you get down is unacceptable. Averett was bigger and faster on both sides of the ball but couldn't get out of the muck to take advantage of it.

Dag nab it, I swore I wasn't going to get my blood pressure up over these losses but to sit there two weeks in a row and watch them self destruct over stupid things is tough to accept. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying they could or should have beat Guilford, but they could have made it more of a game than it was. I am saying they should have beat W&L. But that's all over with now and we will have to go on to the next game. They are a better team than what they are showing. They just need to calm down and play football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wilburt on September 25, 2007, 11:52:56 AM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 25, 2007, 08:31:37 AM
How does the Bulldogs look this year? 

Well Fisk doesn't have a football team, but as Pat Coleman  :D is well aware Fisk is playing a number of D2 schools in the SIAC and a number of NAIA schools across all sports. 

Fisk's AD is ready to move to D2 like Lincoln.  The school just has to get its ducks in a row financially and otherwise! 

The basketball team is likely to have another mediocre year.  The only D3 schools on the schedule ar Huntingdon and Rust.  We do play Morehouse for the first time in at least a decade, and have resumed a series with in state rival Lane College.  So the alumni are happy about that!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Eh-You on September 25, 2007, 12:46:29 PM
kickerdad - not sure i follow you. granted, I haven't seen them play this year but your first comment was "dumb mistakes", then you ranted about everything from technique to special teams to coaching. I'm not really saying either way because I haven't seen it first hand. is it dumb mistakes or is it a complete trainwreck? If it is as bad as you say then doesn't it have to be b/c of the lost players? The coaching staff isn't that much different is it?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 25, 2007, 12:56:21 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on September 25, 2007, 12:46:29 PM
kickerdad - not sure i follow you. granted, I haven't seen them play this year but your first comment was "dumb mistakes", then you ranted about everything from technique to special teams to coaching. I'm not really saying either way because I haven't seen it first hand. is it dumb mistakes or is it a complete trainwreck? If it is as bad as you say then doesn't it have to be b/c of the lost players? The coaching staff isn't that much different is it?

My comments are based on what I witnessed. You will have to judge for yourself after you see them. Bottom line it was dumb mistakes. I will admit that "I Think" there were a couple of times at Guilford that I felt like the coaching staff was confused or whatever and Dunlevy admitted in the Danville Register Bee that he and his staff would take blame. But come on, if they were all true freshman I could understand the mistakes, but most of who is playing are Sr's, Jr's and So's. There are a couple of Freshman, but the others are upperclassmen that should know better. Hell, most of them played last year at some point in time.

Maybe I am too much of a hard ass and expect too much. But I am from the old school and when we played sloppy, then we got a foot up our behinds and could expect 50 or more gassers every practice the following week, until we got it right. I understand that you can't make Chicken Salad out of Chicken S---, but these guys are better than this and the coaches are good. In my opinion it is just plain dumb mistakes.

I promise I will leave it alone now and shut up.  (until next time)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on September 25, 2007, 02:04:08 PM
I went to the game on Saturday up in Winchester and had a great time. Ryan and everyone is right that SU's stadium is great. It has to be the best in the USAC and prob. in the top 10 in all of D 3. Ryan you guys at d3football.com should have an article on what are the top 10 stadiums in D 3. That would make for good reading and see what the colleges offer. I wish Ferrum would put some money into our place and put in lights. My only suggestion for SU would be to open up the visitors concession stand for the game. You had one for us but it was closed for some reason and we had to walk to the other side to get any food. Other than that I was envious of your place. Now as for the game, MAN....... SU sucks!!!!!!. I thought we had a bad offence but I will never complain after watching what you all do. Not once did you try any trick plays and you weren't very creative when it came to first downs. You did pass the ball some in the first quarter but after that, nothing. It was all run and most of the time up the middle. I have to admit I did get a little nervous when your special teams were making some big plays against us. My boys Mike and Matt had a combine 270 yards and 4 TD's! I don't know what our Panthers drank at half time but I hope they continue to do it the rest of the year. That 3rd qt. was one of the most exciting I have ever seen in panther football in my short 3 years being here.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2007, 02:17:50 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on September 25, 2007, 02:04:08 PM
I went to the game on Saturday up in Winchester and had a great time. Ryan and everyone is right that SU's stadium is great. It has to be the best in the USAC and prob. in the top 10 in all of D 3. Ryan you guys at d3football.com should have an article on what are the top 10 stadiums in D 3.

That's something we could do but we need to get out and see more stadiums.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 25, 2007, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2007, 02:17:50 PM

That's something we could do but we need to get out and see more stadiums.

I like that idea also. Maybe in the time being Ryan Tipps and Pat Cummings (the old mid Atlantic beat writer) can do a top 5 stadiums in the mid Atlantic region.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 25, 2007, 06:14:14 PM
What about the cheerleaders of the ODAC? That would be a good story line.........as long as Lama is not doing it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 25, 2007, 06:21:01 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 25, 2007, 12:56:21 PM
My comments are based on what I witnessed. You will have to judge for yourself after you see them.

Kickerdad, I think back in July I threw out my preseason rank of 5th place for AU.  Something to the effect of "won't pull an SU and rock a first to worst, but..."  There's a little reason for that and I think it's what your guys are going through.  I also think it's what will springboard NCWC this year...

Experience and talent.  That is, at the end of the day, all you need to have a shot at winning in this league.

AU had a group of talented Seniors last year and the experience to go along with the ability.  A lot of those guys had a number of years of game experience under their belt and that's what gave them a foundation to be successful.  The talent then pushed those guys over the top.  So a letdown, in essence, was inevitable.  Because those guys had significant experience, it meant that the next class(es) were not getting that same intensive experience. They may have gotten some playing time - but it was probably against SU or Greensboro.. ;D I imagine that is why we are seeing the NCWC squad pushing for a top finish this year.  It's a solid group of experienced guys who have gone through together, and they have some talent to go along with it.  Which leads us back to AU, where the current squad has not had a simular game and situational experience that last year's crop of seniors enjoyed.

SU experienced the same thing AU is going through. The class that came through in 2004 was stacked with talented seniors, something like 20+ guys.  Most of those guys had 3 to 4 years of starting experience - even a few who started as freshmen, not to mention some quality talent.  You lean on those seniors for leadership and other aspects that go with being in the mix.  When they graduated, it created a hole in the classes afterwards - guys who didn't have that same 3 to 4 year opportunity.  Unfortunately, SU has not found it's way out of that situation.  That should turn around at some point.   

So stick with it this year.  You mentioned earlier that you guys had some talented freshmen in camp, so you have the basic building blocks for another run.  You just may have to wait a little while.  Just hope you don't have to wait as long as we are up here...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 25, 2007, 06:22:58 PM
I might head on over to CNU this weekend to see the game. Can anyone tell me a good seafood restaurant nearby the campus? I've been in the mood for some crab legs. ;D maybe a little live music as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 25, 2007, 06:38:17 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 25, 2007, 06:22:58 PM
I might head on over to CNU this weekend to see the game. Can anyone tell me a good seafood restaurant nearby the campus? I've been in the mood for some crab legs. ;D maybe a little live music as well.

It's been about 4 or 5 years, but there is a crabshack joint at the fishing pier that was great. Can't remember what it was called. Good seafood, good bar.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 25, 2007, 09:40:47 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 25, 2007, 06:10:17 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2007, 02:17:50 PM

That's something we could do but we need to get out and see more stadiums.

I like that idea also. Maybe in the time being Ryan Tipps and Pat Cummings (the old mid Atlantic beat writer) can do a top 5 stadiums in the mid Atlantic region.

This weekend I'm headed to Hampden-Sydney to see its new digs. I've seen the online photos, and it looks pretty awesome there. You'll get my first-hand impressions next week. I'm guessing, though, that this is going to be a top 5 regional contender.

And Pat,
With nominations from your ATR columnists, coupled with what you and Keith have seen in person, I imagine you could get a pretty good idea of the best in the land. And, if there's a new stadium that's "discovered" the following year, all the better to have this as a more organic, evolving list. Schools would eat up those bragging rights.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 25, 2007, 09:56:07 PM
I just took a look at the Hampden-Sydney pics on the web. WOW, nice stadium. I love the presidents/press box.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 26, 2007, 11:48:52 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 25, 2007, 06:14:14 PM
What about the cheerleaders of the ODAC? That would be a good story line.........as long as Lama is not doing it.

not doing what? the story or the cheering?  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 26, 2007, 11:56:59 AM
Quote from: SU97 on September 25, 2007, 06:38:17 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 25, 2007, 06:22:58 PM
I might head on over to CNU this weekend to see the game. Can anyone tell me a good seafood restaurant nearby the campus? I've been in the mood for some crab legs. ;D maybe a little live music as well.

It's been about 4 or 5 years, but there is a crabshack joint at the fishing pier that was great. Can't remember what it was called. Good seafood, good bar.

It's called the Crabshack...good place...it's on the fishing pier next to the James River Bridge. Not too far from CNU. Also, about 15 minutes away in Hampton is one of my favorites - Surf Rider. It's at a marina and off the beaten path, but very nice. If that's a possibility, let me know and I'll make sure you're able to get proper directions. OR - you could head down to the Yorktown waterfront...lots of new stuff down there...Riverwalk is the name of the restaurant (I think - not 100%) and for good old redneck music, there's the Yorktown Pub. If you're not interested in a beer, even closer to CNU is Bill's Seafood. Iced Tea is about as hard as they get on the drinks...maybe a coke with a lime? Nah, no limes there.....but good food. Or, another one of my favorites...it's a chain owned by the Outback folks.....Bonefish Grill. It's also about 3 miles from campus.

Hope that helps....if you need more info, send me a message or email and I'll help out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 26, 2007, 12:03:42 PM
Get the bang bang shrimp at Bonefish Grill.  It is awesome!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wilburt on September 26, 2007, 12:47:30 PM
Another article on Chowan joining CIAA and leaving (left) D3 to go to D2. 

http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=273230
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 26, 2007, 12:56:35 PM
To Ryan Tipps aka WCLegacy

Very nice write up for the Mid Atlanctic Region this week. I notice that you live in Bedford. I have always referred to that part of the state as "God's Country". It is beautiful in the Blue Ridge, especially in the fall.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 26, 2007, 01:13:03 PM
85
Good point ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 26, 2007, 02:14:49 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 26, 2007, 12:56:35 PM
To Ryan Tipps aka WCLegacy

Very nice write up for the Mid Atlanctic Region this week. I notice that you live in Bedford. I have always referred to that part of the state as "God's Country". It is beautiful in the Blue Ridge, especially in the fall.

Thanks, kickerdad.

I really like the area I'm in. Rolling hills, country roads, mountains in the distance. This will be my first fall living here, and I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 26, 2007, 02:18:08 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 26, 2007, 12:03:42 PM
Get the bang bang shrimp at Bonefish Grill.  It is awesome!

Bonefish has great food....just suggest getting a reservation especially on a weekend....It's also a bit pricy
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 26, 2007, 03:05:41 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 26, 2007, 11:56:59 AM
Quote from: SU97 on September 25, 2007, 06:38:17 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 25, 2007, 06:22:58 PM
I might head on over to CNU this weekend to see the game. Can anyone tell me a good seafood restaurant nearby the campus? I've been in the mood for some crab legs. ;D maybe a little live music as well.

It's been about 4 or 5 years, but there is a crabshack joint at the fishing pier that was great. Can't remember what it was called. Good seafood, good bar.

It's called the Crabshack...good place...it's on the fishing pier next to the James River Bridge. Not too far from CNU. Also, about 15 minutes away in Hampton is one of my favorites - Surf Rider. It's at a marina and off the beaten path, but very nice. If that's a possibility, let me know and I'll make sure you're able to get proper directions. OR - you could head down to the Yorktown waterfront...lots of new stuff down there...Riverwalk is the name of the restaurant (I think - not 100%) and for good old redneck music, there's the Yorktown Pub. If you're not interested in a beer, even closer to CNU is Bill's Seafood. Iced Tea is about as hard as they get on the drinks...maybe a coke with a lime? Nah, no limes there.....but good food. Or, another one of my favorites...it's a chain owned by the Outback folks.....Bonefish Grill. It's also about 3 miles from campus.

Hope that helps....if you need more info, send me a message or email and I'll help out.

Great choices, Bill's looks like a hole in the wall but great food and if the Surf Rider in Hampton is as good as the one in Virginia Beach, you can't go wrong.

85, is Fishermans Wharf in Hampton still open? They use to have a great buffet with Steam Shrimp and Alaskan Crab Legs. (Off Ivy Road)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 26, 2007, 03:49:15 PM
Fisherman's Wharf is gone......Surf Rider is very near there...same area of town.

Surf Rider is the same as VA Beach as far as quality of food and 100 times better as far as atmosphere and scenary....also the Hampton location has a great bar overlooking the marina and pool.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 26, 2007, 03:51:46 PM
Quote from: nnasid on September 26, 2007, 02:18:08 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 26, 2007, 12:03:42 PM
Get the bang bang shrimp at Bonefish Grill.  It is awesome!

Bonefish has great food....just suggest getting a reservation especially on a weekend....It's also a bit pricy

If you miss the reservation...there's an hour wait on weekends....great bar to wait in and the "talent level" is usually pretty good on most nights!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 26, 2007, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 26, 2007, 03:51:46 PM
Quote from: nnasid on September 26, 2007, 02:18:08 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 26, 2007, 12:03:42 PM
Get the bang bang shrimp at Bonefish Grill.  It is awesome!

Bonefish has great food....just suggest getting a reservation especially on a weekend....It's also a bit pricy

If you miss the reservation...there's an hour wait on weekends....great bar to wait in and the "talent level" is usually pretty good on most nights!
It is a little pricey, but it is a good place to eat as a treat for yourself every once in a while.  I also recommend the grouper there. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 26, 2007, 04:10:52 PM
Here are some cool pics of the SU/FC game last week. http://www.whitepostsports.com/collegiatesports/fb092207/
My two favorites are #13 and 33. I just wish the scoreboard had a different score on it. ::) They also have pics of the Bridgewater game as well. Incase the direct link to the FC game wont work (I have had trouble with it today at times) go to www.whitepostsports.com for its home site.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 26, 2007, 04:33:57 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 26, 2007, 03:57:03 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 26, 2007, 03:51:46 PM
Quote from: nnasid on September 26, 2007, 02:18:08 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 26, 2007, 12:03:42 PM
Get the bang bang shrimp at Bonefish Grill.  It is awesome!

Bonefish has great food....just suggest getting a reservation especially on a weekend....It's also a bit pricy

If you miss the reservation...there's an hour wait on weekends....great bar to wait in and the "talent level" is usually pretty good on most nights!
It is a little pricey, but it is a good place to eat as a treat for yourself every once in a while.  I also recommend the grouper there. 

Amen on the treat yourself....been there twice and its outstanding.....one time did the reservation and the other was a walkin....bar is top notch   ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 26, 2007, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 26, 2007, 03:49:15 PM
Fisherman's Wharf is gone......

I thought that was on the other side of the water - Willoughby Spit? South of the tunnel off I-64?  Sad. :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 26, 2007, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: SU97 on September 26, 2007, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 26, 2007, 03:49:15 PM
Fisherman's Wharf is gone......

I thought that was on the other side of the water - Willoughby Spit? South of the tunnel off I-64?  Sad. :'(

The one your're thinking of was at one time a duplicate of the one in Hampton. later changed to a Captain George's. Haven't been there in years, so I can't tell you if that one is still open or not. Wasn't as good as the one in Hampton after it changed hands.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 26, 2007, 06:09:30 PM
USASAC Picks for this weekend:

Ferrum over Averett by 7 points.  

E&H over Methodist by 2 TDs.

NCWC over Maryville by a last minute field goal.  

Guilford over Greensboro by 4 TDs.  

and...

This pains me to type, but CNU over SU by 20 points.  



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 26, 2007, 06:10:55 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 26, 2007, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: SU97 on September 26, 2007, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 26, 2007, 03:49:15 PM
Fisherman's Wharf is gone......

I thought that was on the other side of the water - Willoughby Spit? South of the tunnel off I-64?  Sad. :'(

The one your're thinking of was at one time a duplicate of the one in Hampton. later changed to a Captain George's. Haven't been there in years, so I can't tell you if that one is still open or not. Wasn't as good as the one in Hampton after it changed hands.


Yes, been a long time.  I just remember going there as a kid with my grandparents.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 26, 2007, 10:00:12 PM
Quote from: SU97 on September 26, 2007, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 26, 2007, 03:49:15 PM
Fisherman's Wharf is gone......

I thought that was on the other side of the water - Willoughby Spit? South of the tunnel off I-64?  Sad. :'(

There were two. The one on the spit is also gone.......razed to the ground to make way for a waterfont condo tower that looks like it has come to a screeching halt. I pass it every morning and I don't see much progress. .....sub prime mortgage issue is making lenders nervous and not willing to lend even good credit folks some money.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on September 26, 2007, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on September 26, 2007, 04:10:52 PM
Here are some cool pics of the SU/FC game last week. http://www.whitepostsports.com/collegiatesports/fb092207/
My two favorites are #13 and 33. I just wish the scoreboard had a different score on it. ::) They also have pics of the Bridgewater game as well. Incase the direct link to the FC game wont work (I have had trouble with it today at times) go to www.whitepostsports.com for its home site.
Love those pics. Thanks UJ. I f I could give karma I would give you a point.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on September 26, 2007, 10:19:00 PM
Quote from: SU97 on September 26, 2007, 06:09:30 PM
USASAC Picks for this weekend:

Ferrum over Averett by 7 points.  

E&H over Methodist by 2 TDs.

NCWC over Maryville by a last minute field goal.  

Guilford over Greensboro by 4 TDs.  

and...

This pains me to type, but CNU over SU by 20 points.  




Your crazy. SU will be lucky to score 7 points with the offence they have. I say CNU by at least 30.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 26, 2007, 10:25:10 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on September 26, 2007, 10:16:04 PM
Love those pics. Thanks UJ. I f I could give karma I would give you a point.

I got your back. +1 to Jessie.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 27, 2007, 10:33:57 AM
Here is an article from the Star about linemen Nick Oakley

"There wasn't anything remotely humorous about Nick Oakley's sophomore year at Lehigh University.After a promising freshman year, injuries kept him off the field during the fall, and his inability to keep up with Lehigh's academic standards meant he was no longer a student at the end of the spring. He could no longer attend the university....Nick has a passion for the game of football that a lot of guys on this team don't understand," Shenandoah quarterback Richard Glick said. "He almost has that (Baltimore Raven) Ray Lewis type of passion. You know Nick's going to be a coach. You know he's always going to be around the game of football."By Robert Niedzwiecki The Winchester Star http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=1391

Perhaps we will see this young man on the Hornets sidlines as a coach in a few years.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 27, 2007, 11:42:35 AM
The MC - GC follow up notebook and NCW notes from the Murvul Daily Times

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20070927/SPORTS/70927014 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20070927/SPORTS/70927014)

Even D1 can't get any consensus on best stadiums I think the latest one I spotted was like 150 page hard back reviewing one man's trip to attend an SEC contest at all 12 stadiums over two or three seasons. How do you judge a facility? There are some great tail-gating crowds and atmospheres around bad facilities and likewise some great facilties that just dont hold much atmosphere.

What I would love to see (and use) would be a home fans guide for the visitors. Tell the other guy when the parking lots open, what you can and cant do, whats worth getting/avoiding at concession stands. Suggestions on best place to go after the game etc. That's something I could use three or four times a football season at least.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on September 27, 2007, 02:47:23 PM
When I made the suggestion on having a top 10 or 20 of D 3 stadiums I was thinking of just the facility itself. Getting into crowd atmosphere, tailgating is too much of a pain to sort out, But being able to judge nice stadiums as CNU's, SU's are easier to judge over a place like Bridgewater's place. The Eagle fans have a great atmosphere with loud fans and a small student band but the stadium is not very up to date. Way too much bickering and politics can play into choosing a top 10-20 if you try to factor fan involvement, marching bands, tailgating, ect. Just keep it simple. Just the facilities itself when choosing a top list.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on September 27, 2007, 02:51:33 PM
Prediction.... the Panthers over the Cougars this week 30-17
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 27, 2007, 04:09:56 PM
So basically the Wisconsin schools and a few other publics make the list nationally?

Would a city or municipal stadium count? Or would it have to be on campus facility? And how do locker rooms, team facilities factor. Is it just crowd enjoyment?
I've been to a few places that were good for the fans but the visiting team might walkso far to get to the stadium they had to spend halftime on the side of the field because there wasnt time to walk back and forth.

MC folks who may be crazy enough (like me) to hit the William Blount-Maryville game Friday night then drive to Rocky Mount be warned the stadium at WB seats 5,000 but 10-15,000 are expected for the showdown of undefeateds. Maryville's win streak is at 49 straight ( No. 16 in USA Today poll) and getting No. 50 may be one for the history books.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on September 27, 2007, 04:37:48 PM
What ever dude, take a chill pill and relax. 8) Like I wrote before fans and tail gaiting do not make for a good stadium. If you recall and go over my notes that I wrote originally, this all started when I suggested having a top list of stadiums of how nice they are. Not the fans enjoyment/tail gating, ect. that is a totally different list. I would put BC in the top 5 of fan participation, tailgating, pep band but not even close when it came to the colleges stadium. I first wrote at how nice SU's stadium was how I wish we (Ferrum) had it. But if I was putting the fan atmosphere in on this list, which I'm not then SU would be a awful place. The crowd was quite, no pep band and the cheer leaders were ugly to look at. You want to make this such an issue to include everything from fans to the brand of hot dog a college sells at the food stand to even how far a visiting team has to walk. Oh poor baby.... the visitors don't have a locker room as close as they would like it to be at some places. Maybe getting some exercise will help some of these teams out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2007, 04:40:33 PM
Uncle J -

If you head down this way tomorrow - be safe. I'm having a very small tailgate thing going on Saturday. Stop by if you get a chance. I'll be in the parking lot right outside the gates. Blue Jeep.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 27, 2007, 05:50:00 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 26, 2007, 12:56:35 PM
To Ryan Tipps aka WCLegacy

Very nice write up for the Mid Atlanctic Region this week. I notice that you live in Bedford. I have always referred to that part of the state as "God's Country". It is beautiful in the Blue Ridge, especially in the fall.
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     kicker....I live just across the James in the western part of Amherst County. I am in total agreement with your post.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 27, 2007, 06:00:18 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 27, 2007, 04:09:56 PM
So basically the Wisconsin schools and a few other publics make the list nationally?

Would a city or municipal stadium count? Or would it have to be on campus facility? And how do locker rooms, team facilities factor. Is it just crowd enjoyment?
I've been to a few places that were good for the fans but the visiting team might walkso far to get to the stadium they had to spend halftime on the side of the field because there wasnt time to walk back and forth.

MC folks who may be crazy enough (like me) to hit the William Blount-Maryville game Friday night then drive to Rocky Mount be warned the stadium at WB seats 5,000 but 10-15,000 are expected for the showdown of undefeateds. Maryville's win streak is at 49 straight ( No. 16 in USA Today poll) and getting No. 50 may be one for the history books.


     How many SC's have the Reb's won now? Isn't it something like 5 or 6 in a row?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 27, 2007, 06:02:13 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 27, 2007, 04:09:56 PM
So basically the Wisconsin schools and a few other publics make the list nationally?

Would a city or municipal stadium count? Or would it have to be on campus facility? And how do locker rooms, team facilities factor. Is it just crowd enjoyment?
I've been to a few places that were good for the fans but the visiting team might walkso far to get to the stadium they had to spend halftime on the side of the field because there wasnt time to walk back and forth.

MC folks who may be crazy enough (like me) to hit the William Blount-Maryville game Friday night then drive to Rocky Mount be warned the stadium at WB seats 5,000 but 10-15,000 are expected for the showdown of undefeateds. Maryville's win streak is at 49 straight ( No. 16 in USA Today poll) and getting No. 50 may be one for the history books.

     Perhaps they need to move it to Neyland?  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 27, 2007, 09:08:27 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on September 27, 2007, 04:37:48 PM
What ever dude, take a chill pill and relax. 8) Like I wrote before fans and tail gaiting do not make for a good stadium. If you recall and go over my notes that I wrote originally, this all started when I suggested having a top list of stadiums of how nice they are. Not the fans enjoyment/tail gating, ect. that is a totally different list.

If you can't give any criteria how do you expect to get an answer?  ;D
Tell me what defines a good stadium for you.
If you make a list on what looks good that doesn't say jack about what is actually functional. Before the renovation Neyland Stadium looked good from the blimp but you wouldn't want to go to troughs at the wrong time from the stands and the older areas around the locker rooms were dungeonesque at best. So is that a good or a bad on the meter?

Okay now I'll quit bustin about nuthin.

I like Tipps including GC in games of the week in around the region and MC-NCW got a mention as one to watch. If the Scots or the Bishops get blown out how does the loser rebound? Food for thought for Sunday morning. ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 27, 2007, 10:08:41 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 27, 2007, 04:40:33 PM
Uncle J -

Stop by if you get a chance. I'll be in the parking lot right outside the gates. Blue Jeep.
Thanks 85. and also the others that have gave me some good options on places to eat down in CNU territory. I'll be heading down Saturday morning and I'll look for your jeep 85.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 27, 2007, 10:58:27 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 10, 2007, 06:35:15 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on April 10, 2007, 05:15:41 PM
Well at least they can use a football now.
God was that rule ever a laugher. Yes you can have spring practice you just cant have helmet, pads or a football involved. ???

Having seen most of the fields now that MC has hosted and played everyone over the last two seasons, discounting the shrine at CNU who has the best/worst gridiron facilities for game day?


I rank them in this order


Playing fields:                          Stadiums:

1. Maryville                           1. CNU
2. CNU                                  2. Maryville
3. Methodist                         3. Shenandoah
4. NCWC                               4. Ferrum
5. Ferrum                              5. Tie - NCWC & Greensboro (city stadiums)
6. Greensboro                       6. Methodist  (no visitor side seats)
7. Shenandoah                     7. Averett (make shift)
8. Averett

It was 2005 when I saw Maryville, Ferrum and Greensboro, a lot could have happened since then.

I know that the Averett folks that read this, especially players and coaches will tar and feather me, but Averett is the worst of the worst.  Kept too wet, the turf is not tight at all.  The soccer team plays on the field and tears it up in addition to the football team. Chowan has a better field than Averett. Hopefully they have made some adjustments this spring and summer.



I believe this question has been brought up before and this was my response back in April.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 27, 2007, 11:00:07 PM
That was my response back in April and is the same today. However I believe Shenandoah and Maryville is a tie.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 28, 2007, 08:35:49 AM
I think...(hope) NCWC has turned the corner.....NCWC 37...Maryville 17 

The boys seem to play better away from home....but I can't make the game, so I expect them to roll .....Go NCWC....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 28, 2007, 09:49:10 AM
Quote from: Old Ref on September 28, 2007, 08:35:49 AM
I think...(hope) NCWC has turned the corner.....NCWC 37...Maryville 17 

The boys seem to play better away from home....but I can't make the game, so I expect them to roll .....Go NCWC....

I think it is going to be a close game.  Of course I am going to pick Maryville, but whoever wins I believe it will come down to a field goal or a last minute touchdown.

Maryville 24 - NCWC 21 Touchdown in the last minute to win the game for the Scots!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 28, 2007, 10:09:33 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 28, 2007, 09:49:10 AM
Quote from: Old Ref on September 28, 2007, 08:35:49 AM
I think...(hope) NCWC has turned the corner.....NCWC 37...Maryville 17 

The boys seem to play better away from home....but I can't make the game, so I expect them to roll .....Go NCWC....

I think it is going to be a close game.  Of course I am going to pick Maryville, but whoever wins I believe it will come down to a field goal or a last minute touchdown.

Maryville 24 - NCWC 21 Touchdown in the last minute to win the game for the Scots!

Hey, Proudfightingscot , that's what makes it interesting.... 2 teams, 2 fans..... Good luck... to all coming, have a safe trip. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 10:29:58 AM
Ok, let me catch up:

I like Fazzoli's when I go to CNU/Newport News, VA.

I spent alot life growing up in the north, so I always love stopping at a WAWA.  The best gas station in the entire world.

GC (Greensboro) will not lose by 4 TD's, both teams are quite motivated for this game.  This game will ultimately decide how much trouble there will be at the GC-GC basketball game.  I think playing at Hanes Gym has good intentions, however it will not hold capacity of what the coliseum held for last year's game.  It will be hot, there will be drunk people, tempers will flare, and there could be trouble. I hope there will be a police officer at the game. I hope there will be GC and GC Security at the game.

I think GC's playing field is much higher and CNU's field is much lower.  I have seen them both when it was pouring outside.  GC's field holds water so much better  :)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 28, 2007, 10:34:55 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 10:29:58 AM
Ok, let me catch up:

I like Fazzoli's when I go to CNU/Newport News, VA.

I spent alot life growing up in the north, so I always love stopping at a WAWA.  The best gas station in the entire world.

GC (Greensboro) will not lose by 4 TD's, both teams are quite motivated for this game.  This game will ultimately decide how much trouble there will be at the GC-GC basketball game.  I think playing at Hanes Gym has good intentions, however it will not hold capacity of what the coliseum held for last year's game.  It will be hot, there will be drunk people, tempers will flare, and there could be trouble. I hope there will be a police officer at the game. I hope there will be GC and GC Security at the game.

I think GC's playing field is much higher and CNU's field is much lower.  I have seen them both when it was pouring outside.  GC's field holds water so much better  :)



Pride,

I think most of the Fazzoli's have closed up in this area. At least on my side of the James River. Hope you can find one, maybe 85 can direct you since that is his stompin ground. WAWA are starting to take off around here as well as Sheetz. Most of the time Sheetz gas is the cheaper which attracts folks this day and time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 11:12:40 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 28, 2007, 10:34:55 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 10:29:58 AM
Ok, let me catch up:

I like Fazzoli's when I go to CNU/Newport News, VA.

I spent alot life growing up in the north, so I always love stopping at a WAWA.  The best gas station in the entire world.

GC (Greensboro) will not lose by 4 TD's, both teams are quite motivated for this game.  This game will ultimately decide how much trouble there will be at the GC-GC basketball game.  I think playing at Hanes Gym has good intentions, however it will not hold capacity of what the coliseum held for last year's game.  It will be hot, there will be drunk people, tempers will flare, and there could be trouble. I hope there will be a police officer at the game. I hope there will be GC and GC Security at the game.

I think GC's playing field is much higher and CNU's field is much lower.  I have seen them both when it was pouring outside.  GC's field holds water so much better  :)



Pride,

I think most of the Fazzoli's have closed up in this area. At least on my side of the James River. Hope you can find one, maybe 85 can direct you since that is his stompin ground. WAWA are starting to take off around here as well as Sheetz. Most of the time Sheetz gas is the cheaper which attracts folks this day and time.

I thought about opening up one, but it is really expensive, in order to open up one, the owner has to have .5 million in assets.  WAWA has these best subs, and the WAWA brand items often times are better than the name brand stuff.
Tasty Kakes, I don't think I have seen any of those in NC either.

I stopped at a Noodles & Company when I was in MD this summer, exceptional food. Again NC is missing out on the world.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 28, 2007, 12:00:08 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 11:12:40 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 28, 2007, 10:34:55 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 10:29:58 AM
Ok, let me catch up:

I like Fazzoli's when I go to CNU/Newport News, VA.

I spent alot life growing up in the north, so I always love stopping at a WAWA.  The best gas station in the entire world.

GC (Greensboro) will not lose by 4 TD's, both teams are quite motivated for this game.  This game will ultimately decide how much trouble there will be at the GC-GC basketball game.  I think playing at Hanes Gym has good intentions, however it will not hold capacity of what the coliseum held for last year's game.  It will be hot, there will be drunk people, tempers will flare, and there could be trouble. I hope there will be a police officer at the game. I hope there will be GC and GC Security at the game.

I think GC's playing field is much higher and CNU's field is much lower.  I have seen them both when it was pouring outside.  GC's field holds water so much better  :)



Pride,

I think most of the Fazzoli's have closed up in this area. At least on my side of the James River. Hope you can find one, maybe 85 can direct you since that is his stompin ground. WAWA are starting to take off around here as well as Sheetz. Most of the time Sheetz gas is the cheaper which attracts folks this day and time.

I thought about opening up one, but it is really expensive, in order to open up one, the owner has to have .5 million in assets.  WAWA has these best subs, and the WAWA brand items often times are better than the name brand stuff.
Tasty Kakes, I don't think I have seen any of those in NC either.

I stopped at a Noodles & Company when I was in MD this summer, exceptional food. Again NC is missing out on the world.

The boys in NC are still eating Moon Pie's and drinking RC Cola's and Sun Drops.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 28, 2007, 12:03:12 PM
Not that there is anything wrong with Moon Pie's; I love them but they don't agree with my waist line anymore. Not a big fan of RC Cola but I use to love to go to NC and buy Sun Drop.

Just a "Good Old Country Boy" I do mean old too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 28, 2007, 12:13:46 PM
"If you were giving the scholarship to an intellectually brilliant kid who happens to play a sport, that's fine," Dowling said. "But they give it to a functional illiterate who can't read a cereal box, and then make him spend 50 hours a week on physical skills. That's not opportunity. If you want to give financial help to minorities, go find the ones who are at the library after school."

Rutger's English professor on the state of athletics at Rutgers.

Hell I thought he was talking about me and Papi
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 28, 2007, 02:12:52 PM
I think they might be talking about us ABN  ;)

Kickerdad...you hit the nail on the head...I was raised on RC cola and Moon Pies (fat pills)...that might have something to do with the reason my 40 time was measured using a sun dial.   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 28, 2007, 03:05:37 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 10:29:58 AM

I like Fazzoli's when I go to CNU/Newport News, VA.


I'm still laughing about this!! We go from trying to find decent seafood to a bad fastfood italian place as a good place to eat!!! This is killing me!!

Thanks - I needed some levity this afternoon!!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 28, 2007, 03:39:49 PM
85...There used to be a place off of Jefferson Ave...I think it was called RJ's sports pub...had some of the best wings I've ever eaten.  When I was stationed in Yorktown I used to eat there once a week...is it still around?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 28, 2007, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 28, 2007, 03:39:49 PM
85...There used to be a place off of Jefferson Ave...I think it was called RJ's sports pub...had some of the best wings I've ever eaten.  When I was stationed in Yorktown I used to eat there once a week...is it still around?

Papi,

What time frame were you in the service? Retired? Assuming Navy, only because you are an Admiral and was stationed at Yorktown.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 28, 2007, 05:11:46 PM
Ah Papi. My brother from another mother. He is a boat commander USCG. Are you aChief yet Papi.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 28, 2007, 05:54:42 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 28, 2007, 05:11:46 PM
Ah Papi. My brother from another mother. He is a boat commander USCG. Are you aChief yet Papi.

That explains the tag team duo.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 28, 2007, 09:01:18 PM
Kickerdad
That's right holmes we who risk our lives for others usually stick together.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 28, 2007, 09:43:49 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 28, 2007, 03:39:49 PM
85...There used to be a place off of Jefferson Ave...I think it was called RJ's sports pub...had some of the best wings I've ever eaten.  When I was stationed in Yorktown I used to eat there once a week...is it still around?

I don't drive by there much.....I think there is still a sports pub there, not sure if it's still called RJ's.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 28, 2007, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 28, 2007, 09:01:18 PM
Kickerdad
That's right holmes we who risk our lives for others usually stick together.

give me  Bud Light, holmes!!

love that commercial!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 28, 2007, 09:48:21 PM
Uncle J,

I will be late tailgating. Schedule issues. We'll still be there, but no grill this time....some snacks and cold beer! Blue Jeep, flags, CNU helmets, and a W&M license plate frame......stop by, say hi, and drink my buddy's beer!!! ;D

Gonna be a great day!! Sunny 70's and a CNU win!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 09:53:03 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 28, 2007, 03:05:37 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 10:29:58 AM

I like Fazzoli's when I go to CNU/Newport News, VA.


I'm still laughing about this!! We go from trying to find decent seafood to a bad fastfood italian place as a good place to eat!!! This is killing me!!

Thanks - I needed some levity this afternoon!!  :)

I hope you aren't trying to say that Newport News has good seafood, I just bought some crabmeat from "My Harris Teeter" and it was from Newport News, VA, far from exceptional.  :) Maryland seafood is the best (MD crabs) There may be good seafood resturaunts, but not good seafood in Newport News.

I am an italian food junkee and I know Fazzolis doesn't have great italian food.  I think it would be a better choice than going to Mickey D's or Burger King. Either way, you know how the saying goes "greatest thing since sliced bread," well it needs to be changed because there is something better than sliced bread, the never ending pasta bowl at Olive Garden. That is the 8th wonder of the world  :) :D ;)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 28, 2007, 10:02:23 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 09:53:03 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 28, 2007, 03:05:37 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 10:29:58 AM

I like Fazzoli's when I go to CNU/Newport News, VA.


I'm still laughing about this!! We go from trying to find decent seafood to a bad fastfood italian place as a good place to eat!!! This is killing me!!

Thanks - I needed some levity this afternoon!!  :)

I hope you aren't trying to say that Newport News has good seafood, I just bought some crabmeat from "My Harris Teeter" and it was from Newport News, VA, far from exceptional.  :) Maryland seafood is the best (MD crabs) There may be good seafood resturaunts, but not good seafood in Newport News.

I am an italian food junkee and I know Fazzolis doesn't have great italian food.  I think it would be a better choice than going to Mickey D's or Burger King. Either way, you know how the saying goes "greatest thing since sliced bread," well it needs to be changed because there is something better than sliced bread, the never ending pasta bowl at Olive Garden. That is the 8th wonder of the world  :) :D ;)



oh man, karma for you! you're killing me. NN does have good seafood....but if you're looking for seafood in a chain supermarket.......or think Olive Garden is Italian......

stop it!!! too funny!!! :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 28, 2007, 11:05:29 PM
ABN...still a BM1...won't be eligible for chief until next April.

Kickerdad...no, I'm part of the service that is the hard nucleus upon which the Navy forms on during time of war, USCG!!! ;D  Still active duty, stationed at Camp Lejeune NC!  Admiral Papi was a nickname some of the guys I played with at MU gave me.

85 I was thinking the same thing...Saying Newport News doesn't have good seafood is like saying they don't have ship building!  :o  My GF is Italian and if you tell her Olive Garden is Italian she'd probably slap the taste out of your mouth!!!
PSBBG...you bought Crab meat in a grocery store and it wasn't good....that's a shocker.  If you want good seafood...go to a seafood market or come down here and I'll catch it for you fresh...throw it in the cooker and serve it with a rum drink!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 28, 2007, 11:27:04 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 28, 2007, 11:05:29 PM
85 I was thinking the same thing...Saying Newport News doesn't have good seafood is like saying they don't have ship building!  :o  My GF is Italian and if you tell her Olive Garden is Italian she'd probably slap the taste out of your mouth!!!

I am Italian...complete with 2 capital letters in a last name that ends in a vowel!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 11:38:21 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 28, 2007, 11:05:29 PM
ABN...still a BM1...won't be eligible for chief until next April.

Kickerdad...no, I'm part of the service that is the hard nucleus upon which the Navy forms on during time of war, USCG!!! ;D  Still active duty, stationed at Camp Lejeune NC!

85 I was thinking the same thing...Saying Newport News doesn't have good seafood is like saying they don't have ship building!  :o  My GF is Italian and if you tell her Olive Garden is Italian she'd probably slap the taste out of your mouth!!!
PSBBG...you bought Crab meat in a grocery store and it wasn't good....that's a shocker.  If you want good seafood...go to a seafood market or come down here and I'll catch it for you fresh...throw it in the cooker and serve it with a rum drink!!!

I know seafood, believe me I never wanted to get seafood from a grocery store. I have family back in MD that own a seafood resturaunt, but I wasn't there.  I was making a dish and was short on time and had to settle for it.

By the way, I was making crab and scrambled egg sandwichs, with some fresh tomatos and a cream cheese spread. Of course you make the crab and eggs with Old Bay. 

MD has way better crabs.  They don't have Newport News Style Crab Cakes.  They do have MD style crab cakes.

Don't put words in my mouth, all I said was the never ending pasta bowl was better than sliced bread. I am italian too, and I make incredible pasta, people will just eat my sauce as if it were a stew.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 28, 2007, 11:49:51 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 11:38:21 PM

By the way, I was making crab and scrambled egg sandwichs, with some fresh tomatos and a cream cheese spread. Of course you make the crab and eggs with Old Bay. 


yum yum (sounds like an old Hee Haw show!!

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 11:38:21 PM

MD has way better crabs.  They don't have Newport News Style Crab Cakes.  They do have MD style crab cakes.

True (sounds like a Bud commercial)

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 11:38:21 PM

I am italian too

I'm changing my name....

Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 28, 2007, 11:38:21 PM
people will just eat my sauce as if it were a stew.

Dude, I will not eat your sauce (hey Papi - stop laughing)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 28, 2007, 11:52:56 PM
Nobody has put words in your mouth, just simply responded to your comment.

Yes, they do have Newport News style crab cakes...guess where??? Newport News!  Just like my grandma makes Harkers Island style crab cakes...why...because we are from Harkers Island.  Everyone thinks the best seafood comes from their hometown!  Heck back home we all argue about who has the best seafood amongst the small communities and they are only separated by a few miles.  Seafood flavor is more about the person cooking it than what body of water it was pulled from.
I could give my opinion on who has the best seafood on the east and gulf coast based on a career of bouncing in and out of every podunk little port, but to be honest all the food was great and the people I met were amazing.

85...my sides hurt..stop!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 29, 2007, 12:02:38 AM
dang....PSBBG dinged my Karma....and I gave him one for being funny today!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 29, 2007, 12:05:54 AM
+1 for ya 85 to make up the difference  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 29, 2007, 12:28:01 AM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 29, 2007, 12:05:54 AM
+1 for ya 85 to make up the difference  ;D

Thanks!

Well,  both teenagers are home. I can now go to bed!

Football and beer tomorrow!!!!

Everybody have fun at the games!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 29, 2007, 12:42:01 AM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 28, 2007, 11:05:29 PM
ABN...still a BM1...won't be eligible for chief until next April.

Kickerdad...no, I'm part of the service that is the hard nucleus upon which the Navy forms on during time of war, USCG!!! ;D  Still active duty, stationed at Camp Lejeune NC!  Admiral Papi was a nickname some of the guys I played with at MU gave me.

85 I was thinking the same thing...Saying Newport News doesn't have good seafood is like saying they don't have ship building!  :o  My GF is Italian and if you tell her Olive Garden is Italian she'd probably slap the taste out of your mouth!!!
PSBBG...you bought Crab meat in a grocery store and it wasn't good....that's a shocker.  If you want good seafood...go to a seafood market or come down here and I'll catch it for you fresh...throw it in the cooker and serve it with a rum drink!!!

Always nice to meet up with a fellow vet. I was  Nam vet, USN 69 - 77, Sub Force.
You are right, couldn't do without the USCG. 

Good luck this weekend.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 29, 2007, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 29, 2007, 12:02:38 AM
dang....PSBBG dinged my Karma....and I gave him one for being funny today!!

It wasn't me, its gonna take alot more than saying you won't eat my sauce for me to ding your karma  :).  I don't ding people's karma just because thier opinion is different than mine, or different than the mainstream opinion.

Unlike some people on here well.............that is a different story.
Quote from: CNU85

quote author=PrideSportBBallGuy link=topic=4562.msg765140#msg765140 date=1191037101]
people will just eat my sauce as if it were a stew.

Dude, I will not eat your sauce (hey Papi - stop laughing)
[/quote]

If I didn't have a sense of humor.....some may view that has grounds to give you -1.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 29, 2007, 09:35:18 AM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 29, 2007, 09:13:28 AMIf I didn't have a sense of humor.....
now that is funny!

monarchs need to come out fast on offense today...i think this is a pivotal game for them...going to 0-4, especially if they lose in similar fashion to the first 3 games, could be a back breaker for the rest of the season - i'm hoping to see some significant adjustments on both sides of the ball - should be a great day to watch some college football, though

go monarchs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 29, 2007, 03:17:33 PM
and with the start of the 4th quarter:

CNU: 28
SU:  0

Congrats to the Captains on a big win.  I think you guys lead the series now at 4-3 lifetime.  At least we're the only USASAC team to ever beat you guys at POCOMO. ;D

From the radio it sounds like SU never had a chance.  I think CNU had something like 4,000 rushing yards today...  and another 500 through the air... 

CNU85 - I would be interested to read your thoughts on the game.  I do have to say that the CNU folks have a nice online live stats feed, easy to follow.

It's a bye week for SU next week, hope we can turn it around and muster up something for the final stretch of the season. 


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 29, 2007, 03:18:11 PM
and CNU scores again...  35-0.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 29, 2007, 04:01:20 PM
Scratch that...  42-0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 29, 2007, 04:48:25 PM
Papi and 85
You guys need to do stand up. :)

But serious 85 will be insufferable this week.

Papi
Will be in Lejune in late OCT. Just got the tag to process thru for AL Taqaddum. 15KM from Falluja. I heard I will not need a heater. ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 29, 2007, 05:06:53 PM
NCWC.... The boys are for real!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 29, 2007, 05:57:56 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 29, 2007, 04:48:25 PM
Papi and 85
You guys need to do stand up. :)

But serious 85 will be insufferable this week.

Papi
Will be in Lejune in late OCT. Just got the tag to process thru for AL Taqaddum. 15KM from Falluja. I heard I will not need a heater. ::)

Stand up? I do my best work laying down...or is that lying down?

I will not be insufferable this week. It was a big win.....and in my pre-season predictions I had it 38-0......the last drive I was hoping for a FG to make it 38-0, not a TD to finish the game at 42-0.

Abnrgr - be assured I will say prayers for your safety in Iraq.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 29, 2007, 06:01:46 PM
SU97 - not sure what I can say about the game. From a CNU fan standpoint it was nice to roll and get a W. From an SU standpoint it was ugly. From a neutral standpoint it must have been boring.

Good weather, food, friends, and beer. It was a nice day!!

Uncle J - we missed each other. My fault. My friends were running late, so I parked my Jeep in a different lot and waited for them, jumped in their car and then went to tailgate.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 29, 2007, 06:13:33 PM
oh my....just looked at the stats...very ugly. CNU lost 4 fumbles!

CNU had 567 yds offense to SU's 160.

32 first downs to 9

CNU had the ball for 35 minutes...that's a first down about every minute of play when they had the ball.

Offesnive reserves for CNU were not in synch. Looked confused. Still scored a few times.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 29, 2007, 06:19:00 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 29, 2007, 05:57:56 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 29, 2007, 04:48:25 PM
Papi and 85
You guys need to do stand up. :)

But serious 85 will be insufferable this week.

Papi
Will be in Lejune in late OCT. Just got the tag to process thru for AL Taqaddum. 15KM from Falluja. I heard I will not need a heater. ::)

Stand up? I do my best work laying down...or is that lying down?

I will not be insufferable this week. It was a big win.....and in my pre-season predictions I had it 38-0......the last drive I was hoping for a FG to make it 38-0, not a TD to finish the game at 42-0.

Abnrgr - be assured I will say prayers for your safety in Iraq.

abnrgr, Good luck to you bud.....keep your eyes open and your head down... Wish you the best.... May God be with you...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 29, 2007, 06:28:45 PM
From  a CNU standpoint it was an ugly blowout, despite the large margin of victory it was not a well executed game.  To many turnovers and not enough crisp long sustained drives from CNU playing a team of that caliber.  From a neutral standpoint Im sorry, but parents and fans of SU have nothing to complain about.  Maybe you can blame Barnes on his recruiting but personally (once again I'm sorry but I saw very average talent on the SU side of the ball). Their skill players need a lot of work and I saw very little heart and emotion even when it was 14-0. I didn't see one offensive skill player for SU that if he got the ball you were afraid that he could take it the distance and I don't care what type of offense you put them in. You can blame a coach for a lot of things but the SU team played with no heart or emotion.  I played against SU teams 4 times and even when (biased opinion ;D) I thought they were not a great team, they always played HARD.

Back to CNU good win its always a pleasure to see us blast SU.  And correction SU97 no conference team has ever beaten us at POMOCO.  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 29, 2007, 06:31:40 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on September 29, 2007, 06:28:45 PM
  And correction SU97 no conference team has ever beaten us at POMOCO.  ;) ;) ;D

SU did in 2001
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 29, 2007, 06:39:48 PM
Come on 85 I thought you were a TRUE CAPTAIN FAN ??? ??? That was CNU STADIUM in 01 not good ol' POMOCO.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 29, 2007, 06:44:14 PM
even for a CNU fan...that's reaching a bit!!! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 29, 2007, 06:45:52 PM
Just stating the facts sir. lol  ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 29, 2007, 07:35:26 PM
Abn...give me a holler when you get near post and we'll get a beer or 20!

Narch...looks like the defense showed up today but the offense must have taken the day off.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on September 30, 2007, 08:31:12 AM
Maryville arrived yesterday with their inflated 4-0 record (alot of air in it)
and they found out  that speed does kill; may the "Little Scotties" REST
IN PEACE.The Scots served the conference well with their out of conference
play. The score was 51-6 with the starters from both sides in the game.
The Scots did exhibit some poor sportsmanship (three calls late in the game)
The Bishops have a week off and then play an always tough Averett Squad.
Don't get on the band wagon BallBOY, not just yet!! Old Ref the defense was
a thing of beauty and the offense is starting to jell, Keep an eye out.
GO NCW!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 30, 2007, 09:48:44 AM
"Old Ref the defense was
a thing of beauty and the offense is starting to jell, Keep an eye out."
(quote from Smith Reed )

I just read the report  in the paper. Sounds like the boys can play with anyone when they set their mind to it. Just hate I missed seeing it, but I intend on being at tha next one, that's for sure!! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on September 30, 2007, 10:58:20 AM
Quote from: Smith Reed on September 30, 2007, 08:31:12 AM
Maryville arrived yesterday with their inflated 4-0 record (alot of air in it)
and they found out  that speed does kill

I do believe that MC opponets combined record is, I believe prior to playing NCWC was 4-11. I think GC could have beaten them, however 7 TO's at any level you can't/shouldn't win. Still not on the NCWC bandwagon, even you said Smith Reed MC record was inflated.  I really didn't think MC had a chance in that game.  I just will have to wait and see, the bandwagon is near, but still haven't jumped on it yet.

What do I say about last nights game.  It was just another Souper Bowl.  Vogelbach doesn't seem to be going down field as much as he did last year, which I feel has really cut down on his TO's.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 30, 2007, 12:08:31 PM
Hey PSBBG,

I was just looking at the stats. Wow. GCQ had 107 offensive plays, over 500 yds Offense, 39 first downs and 37 minutes possession and you guys only lost by 6.......Truly, that indicates to me that the Pride didn't give up, kept fighting...impressive, even with a loss.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 30, 2007, 08:59:35 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on September 30, 2007, 08:31:12 AM
Maryville arrived yesterday with their inflated 4-0 record (alot of air in it)
and they found out  that speed does kill; may the "Little Scotties" REST
IN PEACE.The Scots served the conference well with their out of conference
play. The score was 51-6 with the starters from both sides in the game.
The Scots did exhibit some poor sportsmanship (three calls late in the game)
The Bishops have a week off and then play an always tough Averett Squad.
Don't get on the band wagon BallBOY, not just yet!! Old Ref the defense was
a thing of beauty and the offense is starting to jell, Keep an eye out.
GO NCW!!!!!!

Well I am so glad you were able to log on and talk smack after the game.  If you were so conifendent in them why didn't you say anything before the game?  I believe you were the favorite anyways not us.  So way to pat yourself on the back and act like you weren't the favorite.  As far as the quote "may the "Little Scotties" REST IN PEACE" that shows your age/ignorace level and is not necessary (and you were the one talking about sportsmanship).  I'm not being bitter I am just telling the truth.   Congrads to NCWC (and yes they are for real as was said in the beginning of the season) on the big win, but quit being stupid man.

I still believe CNU is the team to beat until they are dethroned.  They always end up on top of the Conference and on Oct. 27th we will see who really is the best team.  I just hope we can get an out right champion this year and not split the title again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on September 30, 2007, 10:38:01 PM
Proudfightingscott.......It appears that NCWC is represented on this board by only two or three posters..... I certainly do not want all posters who favor NCWC to be considered as poor sports simply because of ...what I also would agree as a "yellow flag infraction" such as "unsportman like conduct" ....I, personally agree, that until CNU is dethroned... they have to be considered favorites... Good Luck to the Fighting Scotts through the remainder of the season.... :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 01, 2007, 08:28:04 AM
oh no.  I wouldn't tag entire group for what one person would say.  I was just refering to his comments only.  Some things just are unnecessary and need left back in elementary school that's all.

How did Ferrum look last week?  The Scots play them this week and I was wondering how good a game it will be.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 01, 2007, 11:09:54 AM
Quote from: Smith Reed on September 30, 2007, 08:31:12 AM
Maryville arrived yesterday with their inflated 4-0 record (alot of air in it)
and they found out  that speed does kill; may the "Little Scotties" REST
IN PEACE.The Scots served the conference well with their out of conference
play. The score was 51-6 with the starters from both sides in the game.
The Scots did exhibit some poor sportsmanship (three calls late in the game)
The Bishops have a week off and then play an always tough Averett Squad.
Don't get on the band wagon BallBOY, not just yet!! Old Ref the defense was
a thing of beauty and the offense is starting to jell, Keep an eye out.
GO NCW!!!!!!

       Not sure I would bury the "Little Scotties" just yet. I am/was/will continue to be excited about the Scots season. I knew that they hadn't had a quality W and that NCWC would be a tough game. Congrats to the Bishops! Even as a former Fighting Scot, I was not ready to put them in the category of USAC contender just yet. A win Saturday IMO, would have put them in that category. Unfortunately, that didn't happen so it's back to work. Obviosuly, they still have some work to do to get to that level. MC still has a chance to put together the best season in over 20 years. Hopefully, when I get the chance to see them on OCtober 27th, that will still be the case. GO SCOTS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: used2b on October 01, 2007, 12:12:56 PM
new poster to this conference.
Since NCWC has handled CNU the past couple of years, what does it look like for this year? I have some knowledge of the coaching staff at NCWC, the Head Man is very good. I have been putting NCWC at the top of this conference since the year began. Since, the game is in Newport's home turf, could this make a difference? or has NCWC shrugged off road game complications over the past couple of years in Conference play?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 01, 2007, 12:20:30 PM
Quote from: used2b on October 01, 2007, 12:12:56 PM
new poster to this conference.
Since NCWC has handled CNU the past couple of years, what does it look like for this year? I have some knowledge of the coaching staff at NCWC, the Head Man is very good. I have been putting NCWC at the top of this conference since the year began. Since, the game is in Newport's home turf, could this make a difference? or has NCWC shrugged off road game complications over the past couple of years in Conference play?

Actually, with the one exception of this past week, NCWC has played better on the road this year than at home. I do have a concern that the bye week may not be good for them. They seem to have ir together with momentum....hate to see that interrupted.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 01, 2007, 12:32:08 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on September 29, 2007, 06:28:45 PM
Maybe you can blame Barnes on his recruiting but personally (once again I'm sorry but I saw very average talent on the SU side of the ball). Their skill players need a lot of work and I saw very little heart and emotion even when it was 14-0. You can blame a coach for a lot of things but the SU team played with no heart or emotion. Back to CNU good win its always a pleasure to see us blast SU. 

One thing alot of SU supporters have been saying lately is that Barnes is a bad recruiter. The two teams that he won with and were champions were Walter Barr's kids. He inherited those players. Because of a late minute problem at work I was not able to go to the game. Probably turned out to be a good thing. But on the radio they were saying that same thing that at times the team played with no emotion and at the beginning of the game they said that players have been arguing back and forth with each other pointing fingers at each other defense against offence and offence against defense and they said some players have quit the team. It's just another example of how Barnes had this team at the heights of the USAC to the basement. He has clearly lost the team. This is now the Hornets 9th straight loss and in those games Barnes' Wing T has averaged 7 points and shut out 3 times. I have skirted around this in the past saying he needs to change is play calling. Now its just clear. The team needs a change in leadership. Belive me I do not like to say it because he is a nice guy. I personally like him. I like what he belives in and gives respect to the community. But it just comes to a time in everything when you must decide if you should change direction. SU needs to do this at the end of the season.  Someone that can put some new life back into the team. Someone that can get the players to belive they can win and to mix it up on the field. It hurts alot to see the team fall like this and I feel for the players and parents. I know as a former athlete the players aren't going on to the field saying "I'm not going to give it my all." But its just human nature that when your behind so quick in every game it takes a toll on you and you don't play with the same emotion you would normally. That's not saying they give up but its just something that puts alot of weight on a kids shoulders and its harder to play with a high emotion. This team needs to be brought back to life and the only way it looks like it can is have new leadership at the top.

Here are some quotes from Barnes after the game in the Winchester Star.
"The kids are frustrated, but they played hard on both sides of the ball and didn't give up,"
"They ran the ball hard and wore us down," Barnes said. "They made some plays and that was the difference — (they) wore us down."http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=1481

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on October 01, 2007, 12:39:48 PM
ALLSKY7, enjoyed your comments. thanks for keeping it positve and not
taking things personal The Scots have a good team and should win quite a
few more games. You're right, we can't bury you yet we need help on
the 13th of Oct. The Scots have a nice offense but could use some more
speed on defense. Good Luck the rest of the way. GO SCOTS!!!!!!!!


USED2B, NCWC has only beaten CNU once and throw into the mix that CNU
does not lose at home and things get even more difficult. Right now our focus
(as a fan ) is for NCW to get healthy and get ready to play Averett College
on the 13th. Averett is always tough and full of tricks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 01, 2007, 01:07:18 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on October 01, 2007, 12:39:48 PM
ALLSKY7, enjoyed your comments. thanks for keeping it positve and not
taking things personal The Scots have a good team and should win quite a
few more games. You're right, we can't bury you yet we need help on
the 13th of Oct. The Scots have a nice offense but could use some more
speed on defense. Good Luck the rest of the way. GO SCOTS!!!!!!!!


USED2B, NCWC has only beaten CNU once and throw into the mix that CNU
does not lose at home and things get even more difficult. Right now our focus
(as a fan ) is for NCW to get healthy and get ready to play Averett College
on the 13th. Averett is always tough and full of tricks.

     Thanks Reed...I try not to get caught up too much in the smack talk. I may throw a few jabs in fun on occasion. Guess I have been around the block enough times to know that the smack you talk today will probably be the smack busting you in the chops tomorrow.  :D
     On the road at CNU Oct 13th is obviosuly the toughest slot left on the Scots schedule. Hopefully they can get the W and help you out.  ;) They must focus on Ferrum first. A game they probably should win at home but you can't afford to overlook anyone. Nothing would make me happier than to go see a 6 and 1 Scots team on October 27th when they play Methodist for HC. I still have a bitter taste in my mouth from two years ago when a total Scots meltdown in the 4th Q allowed The Monarchs to steal one. Speaking of team speed, IMO, this was the reason they lost that game. If memory serves me, they gave up two big plays that were the difference. I have been a part of Maryville football since 1983 and I don't think team speed has ever been a strong point.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 01, 2007, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 29, 2007, 07:35:26 PMNarch...looks like the defense showed up today but the offense must have taken the day off.
papi - it was nice to see the defense finally come to play, but to be honest, ehc doesn't have a lot of guys that can hurt a team on that side of the ball - the rb's are all smallish (but pretty quick and they run hard) the wr's had pretty good size, but they weren't going to beat anyone down the field and the qb was not very good - in the first half, ehc ran at will agains the monarch defense but stalled when they "out-thunk" themselves and started calling pass plays...the qb didn't throw more than one ball that was remotely close to a receiver in the first half, or the 1/2 time score could have been worse than 3-3

the monarchs, on the other hand, came out firing the ball all around in the first 1/2, and parks was 17-20 with 170 yards...i think all 3 of his incomplete passes, though, were on 3rd downs and led to stalled drives...which led to missed fg's - i thought on at least 2 occassions, the monarchs should have gone for it on 4th down instead of kicking...there was a nice breeze, you've got a young, unproven kicker and the spot on the field/down and distance dictated going for it, in my opinion, but i'm not paid to coach

in the second half, both defenses really tightened up and it was a punt-fest - ehc made 2 big plays on offense in the second half - first, on a 3rd and long, the qb made a nice throw to the only spot the ball could have been caught, and the receiver made a catch with a monarch blanketing him...just a good play made by ehc - a few plays later, ehc hooks up on a 40 yard reception inside the monarch 20 on a ball that was tipped by the db but caught...really a poor pass that had a good result...these two plays allowed ehc to kick a fg and go up 6-3 - the monarchs had a chance with about 2:30 left, but parks made his only real mistake of the day and threw the ball to an ehc defender on an out pattern...the monarchs had hit this same pattern with regularity throughout the first 3 quarters, but ehc really started to sit on it in the 4th quarter...i thought the monarchs might call an out-and-up, but the ol wasn't giving enough time for a double move by a wr...if it had been executed, though, it could have been big, because they were biting on the out EVERY time

if's + shoulda's + woulda's = 0-4 for the monarchs right now

the good thing is this...they're just 0-1 in conference - while it's a long-shot, a conference championship is still within reach :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 01, 2007, 01:24:07 PM
congrats to mike hill for becoming the monarch's all-time leading rusher - the last 2 games haven't gone exactly the way he or the rest of the offense would have liked, but he is a special back and is a lot of fun to watch - i thought he might have been pressing a bit on saturday...he didn't look as patient as he normally does...but he runs so hard for a guy who tips the scales at about 165 - he told me during his freshman year that he was going to set that record...he was true to his word - congrats mike!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 01, 2007, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 01, 2007, 11:09:54 AM
Quote from: Smith Reed on September 30, 2007, 08:31:12 AM
Maryville arrived yesterday with their inflated 4-0 record (alot of air in it)
and they found out  that speed does kill; may the "Little Scotties" REST
IN PEACE.The Scots served the conference well with their out of conference
play. The score was 51-6 with the starters from both sides in the game.
The Scots did exhibit some poor sportsmanship (three calls late in the game)
The Bishops have a week off and then play an always tough Averett Squad.
Don't get on the band wagon BallBOY, not just yet!! Old Ref the defense was
a thing of beauty and the offense is starting to jell, Keep an eye out.
GO NCW!!!!!!

       Not sure I would bury the "Little Scotties" just yet. I am/was/will continue to be excited about the Scots season. I knew that they hadn't had a quality W and that NCWC would be a tough game. Congrats to the Bishops! Even as a former Fighting Scot, I was not ready to put them in the category of USAC contender just yet. A win Saturday IMO, would have put them in that category. Unfortunately, that didn't happen so it's back to work. Obviosuly, they still have some work to do to get to that level. MC still has a chance to put together the best season in over 20 years. Hopefully, when I get the chance to see them on OCtober 27th, that will still be the case. GO SCOTS!!

There is still a lot of excitement around campus about the team.  The Scots definately took their lumps this week, so hopefully they can bounce back against Ferrum this week.  I think it is a game that will be a nice middle of the road as far as competition.  They should win (hopefully) and be a good game to get some momentium heading into that juggernaut that is Christopher Newport.  I am sure the coach at Maryville will have his guys ready to play for that game.  Right now they just don't need to worry about CNU until next week and they need to focus on FU.  Well I guess I better get back to work :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 05:00:27 PM
Quote from: used2b on October 01, 2007, 12:12:56 PM
new poster to this conference.
Since NCWC has handled CNU the past couple of years, what does it look like for this year? I have some knowledge of the coaching staff at NCWC, the Head Man is very good. I have been putting NCWC at the top of this conference since the year began. Since, the game is in Newport's home turf, could this make a difference? or has NCWC shrugged off road game complications over the past couple of years in Conference play?

As already noted NCW has beaten CNU once. CNU is 19-1 at home in conference games. The only loss being to Shenandoah in the very first conference game in CNU history way back in 2001, and that was decided in OT. So - 19 straight  home conference wins.

But I have to admit, from what I've heard NCW has the type of offense to cause major problems for CNU. NCW is fast and runs well....not as fast as UMHB, but then again, a team doesn't have to win 51-19....just one point is all it takes. I said it a long time ago (maybe last year) - NCW scares me....they play the type of game that CNU has had trouble with so far this year.....One thing for sure....it'll be a fun game to watch! I'm glad it's at POMOCO and not in Rocky Mount!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 05:02:14 PM
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2007, 01:24:07 PM
congrats to mike hill for becoming the monarch's all-time leading rusher - the last 2 games haven't gone exactly the way he or the rest of the offense would have liked, but he is a special back and is a lot of fun to watch - i thought he might have been pressing a bit on saturday...he didn't look as patient as he normally does...but he runs so hard for a guy who tips the scales at about 165 - he told me during his freshman year that he was going to set that record...he was true to his word - congrats mike!

Narch - when doing my 2 sentence blurb for the local paper before the season, I had to get Mike Hill's name in there. He's a good player!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on October 01, 2007, 05:31:35 PM
CNU85, the line play of both teams both offensive and defensive will decide
this game. I hear CNU"S defensive line is cat quick. OOOps need to stay
focused on Averett.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 05:56:04 PM
I agree Smith Reed......the line play will be important....but also the CNU LB group will have to run to the ball and there needs to be coverage on the pitchout.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 06:51:21 PM
I think the FC/MC game will be fun to watch. FC has put up over 40 ppg the last 2 games (I know it was against AU and SU - but still lots of points). Looking forward to a report on that game from some MC fans!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 01, 2007, 08:08:47 PM
85
I have noticed that your fun to know info and analyst side of you picks up exponentially after a CAPTAINS's win.  ;). Hummmmm 8)

Narch
Nice run down.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: powerslant/2 on October 01, 2007, 10:11:16 PM
Let's be straight up, for CNU to extend this season into post season play they have to run the table in conference play, undefeated this season.  Out right Conference Champions. They are better than pre-season 2nd pick :o But must get better each week and stop the speed option run.  Thats why the new LB's changes and they did a great job against SU. :-X
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 01, 2007, 10:18:17 PM
Uncle Jessie, you have an interesting viewpoint. But I am finding some of your ideas as a bit of a stretch.

Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 01, 2007, 12:32:08 PM
One thing alot of SU supporters have been saying lately is that Barnes is a bad recruiter. The two teams that he won with and were champions were Walter Barr's kids. He inherited those players.

At that time the two assistants, Barnes and Reed Prosser (now a head coach at local Millbrook HS), were instrumental in bringing in those first couple of classes.  Barr's reputation and local legend stats helped seal the deal on many recruits, but the hands-on recruiting was mainly done by the assistants.  So, in a way, the inherited player argument is slightly flawed.  

Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 01, 2007, 12:32:08 PM
But on the radio they were saying that same thing that at times the team played with no emotion and at the beginning of the game they said that players have been arguing back and forth with each other pointing fingers at each other defense against offence and offence against defense and they said some players have quit the team. It's just another example of how Barnes had this team at the heights of the USAC to the basement. He has clearly lost the team.

There is another huge piece to this puzzle that you've never mentioned: former assistant Terrance Brooks.  Brooks was the soul of those championship defenses and his motivational abilities are legendary.  His approach to strength training and the "we build better ballplayers" mentality are sorely missed.  I would argue that SU maintains the same level of talent on the recruiting trail, but the program has not maintained the systems in place that enabled SU to develop players over their career.  

On top of that is the argument made lately as to why Averett has seen some hard times this year - experience.  SU lacks those large groups of 3 and 4-year starters right now, something they enjoyed during the 2003 and 2004 seasons.  


Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 01, 2007, 12:32:08 PM
This is now the Hornets 9th straight loss and in those games Barnes' Wing T has averaged 7 points and shut out 3 times. I have skirted around this in the past saying he needs to change is play calling. Now its just clear. The team needs a change in leadership. Belive me I do not like to say it because he is a nice guy. I personally like him. I like what he belives in and gives respect to the community. But it just comes to a time in everything when you must decide if you should change direction. SU needs to do this at the end of the season.  Someone that can put some new life back into the team...  This team needs to be brought back to life and the only way it looks like it can is have new leadership at the top.

Point taken.  But then, following your logic, you would have to downsize the rest of the fall coaches:

Football  0-5  
Volleyball  6-11  (0-9 in conference play)
Girls Soccer   3-6
Guys Soccer  2-10
Field Hockey  0-7

I think it would be different if the other programs at SU were competitive (not even winning - just keeping it close to .500).  But the fact is that SU is not competitive across the board.  So how can you fire Barnes and not hold the rest up to the same standard.  

Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 01, 2007, 12:32:08 PM
alot    

and PLEASE...  a (space) lot

Let's leave the constant bad grammar and misspelling to team Greensboro.  Before Hasanova and Narch bring the pain...  ;D


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 10:25:45 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 01, 2007, 08:08:47 PM
85
I have noticed that your fun to know info and analyst side of you picks up exponentially after a CAPTAINS's win.  ;). Hummmmm 8)

Narch
Nice run down.

I write more when I'm not depressed!!!......or maybe with this post and one more I hit 1,000 posts (again).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 01, 2007, 10:27:47 PM
Quote from: powerslant/2 on October 01, 2007, 10:11:16 PM
Let's be straight up, for CNU to extend this season into post season play they have to run the table in conference play, undefeated this season.  Out right Conference Champions. They are better than pre-season 2nd pick :o But must get better each week and stop the speed option run.  Thats why the new LB's changes and they did a great job against SU. :-X

Didn't realize that CNU was at home against NCWC this year.  Although I'm sticking with my original pick of the Bishops to win the conference, history is favoring the Captains.

(hey CNU85 - that's right, history favoring the Newports. That last statement makes me feel like Will Ferrell in the debate scene in Old School...    "What happened? I blacked out.")  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 01, 2007, 10:29:26 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 10:25:45 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 01, 2007, 08:08:47 PM
85
I have noticed that your fun to know info and analyst side of you picks up exponentially after a CAPTAINS's win.  ;). Hummmmm 8)

Narch
Nice run down.

I write more when I'm not depressed!!!......or maybe with this post and one more I hit 1,000 posts (again).

you and the NCWC fans... ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 10:35:12 PM
Quote from: powerslant/2 on October 01, 2007, 10:11:16 PM
But must get better each week and stop the speed option run.  Thats why the new LB's changes and they did a great job against SU. :-X

They did better.....but it was SU. Do you think the changes would have been evident had we played a UMHB caiber team?  I'm telling ya, NCW's speed makes me nervous.....I hope the LB changes help and the guys get a few games to start coming together.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 01, 2007, 10:29:26 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 10:25:45 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 01, 2007, 08:08:47 PM
85
I have noticed that your fun to know info and analyst side of you picks up exponentially after a CAPTAINS's win.  ;). Hummmmm 8)

Narch
Nice run down.

I write more when I'm not depressed!!!......or maybe with this post and one more I hit 1,000 posts (again).

you and the NCWC fans... ;)

I'm a little depressed, though. I'm a Vikings fan and I hate the Packers!! (but i wish everyone played the game the way favre does)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 01, 2007, 10:37:57 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 30, 2007, 08:59:35 PM
As far as the quote "may the "Little Scotties" REST IN PEACE" that shows your age/ignorace level and is not necessary (and you were the one talking about sportsmanship). 

That's funny.  Good for PFS for stepping up.  I'd hit you with a +1 karma if I could.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 10:38:57 PM
you should be able to mess with KArma now....you have 200 posts
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 10:40:45 PM
SU97....and now that you can go Karma Krazy...I just gave you +1  - just to suck up and get on your good side!! :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 01, 2007, 10:45:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 10:40:45 PM
SU97....and now that you can go Karma Krazy...I just gave you +1  - just to suck up and get on your good side!! :D

WOW.  I feel the power of the force flowing from within...

To smite or not to smite.  I had no idea I had the power... All you CNUers BEWARE.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 01, 2007, 10:47:23 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 01, 2007, 10:40:45 PM
SU97....and now that you can go Karma Krazy...I just gave you +1  - just to suck up and get on your good side!! :D
Truce.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 01, 2007, 10:49:38 PM
For anyone interested in the travel diary of three football games in 36 hours and about 900 road miles in the mix, here's the column from the MDT

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071001/SPORTS0104/71001002 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071001/SPORTS0104/71001002)

I'll give total props to NC Wesleyan. They popped the Scots hard. MC gave up its season rushing average per game in the first four minutes. gave up more ground yards to the Bishops by game end than they had in the first four games combined.
That said NCW was ready for the game, MC did not appear to be. I think young Scots would be more precise when you look down the leading play makers, (Hightower, Wall, Slay, Chewning, etc) the majority are freshmen or sophomores. The line has some whiskers on both sides but even there you're looking at juniors mostly. This team did not look good on the first overnight road trip to LaGrange and looked the same flat way Saturday. I expect the travel arrangements will get a shake up before they roll to Va.

Ginn also had the game plan to beat MC. He used that aggressive rush against the Scots as they dumped passes and ran delay handoffs continually and effectively the first half letting MC work its way out of assignment before the play really developed. You can do that when you have a qb like that. The dump over the middle to Bush out of the backfield capitalized on that. Take a look at Bush's touches coming into the game and the number he had on Sat and you'll see just how well planned the attack was.

As for sportsmanship. I think you had one sophomore from MC lose his cool and he got jerked from the game as soon as the word got across the field to Ierulli what had happened. Not excusing it. Even the Murvul radio guys scolded him for playing innocent afterwards.
MC receiver got a penalty for the fist pump after a tough catch and I couldn't tell if it was just the way he did it that brought  out the hankies or if it looked like the throat slash sign from field level. Bush did the same out of bounds after scoring and got the same treatment so call it what you will. I thought the refs got things back in hand pretty quickly.

I have no idea who'll come out on top when NCW and CNU meet, but I do firmly believe it will be a shoot out.

And props to T Lowe. I didnt get to see much of the game but it was sweet little return show he put on in the 2nd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 01:33:42 AM
SU97, Ah what???
First off you talk about the other sports (once again) in d3football.com and actually try to come off as they are in the same bracket as the SU football team. They are no where close to being on the level as the football team is. I wrote it before SU's athletic department has clearly made the football team (not the volleyball, soccer, field hockey teams or even the basketball teams) its poster child. The university has spent millions into a new stadium, roads, field house building and intends to put millions more into it, for they want field turf installed. When the other programs get a new stadium or are put as high as the football team is on the SU pedestal then I will expect just as much out of those teams as well.
   From your lodgic if we are going to get rid of one guy we should get rid of them all. Well if you want to go that far well I say why not. Why should the university except losing? But in reality its not all about wins and losses for most D3 programs is it? Its because the money is just not available to compete at such a high level in all sports. But when a d3 program such as SU's puts millions down then we should expect more than 7 points a game. 
   You mentioned about SU lacks 3 and 4 year starters. What was the excuse when they had 3 and 4 year guys last year and they werent short in them in 2005. You brought up Terrance Brooks. Who is responsible for guiding the team to a high level that Brooks put the team on years ago? Its the head coach right? You said Barnes and Reed Prosser were the masterminds of bringing in those recruits and the inherited player argument is slightly flawed. Well again 97 who is the one in charge of the recruiting now? Its Barnes right?
   But all in all I guess 9 straight losses averging 7 points getting shut out 3 times in the 9  losing games and going back to the start of last year the team is averging 8.5 points and were shut out 5 times is perfectly fine with you. They fact that they have won one game in the USAC the last 3 years is well enough for you and that SU needs to hold on to Barnes. Yeah those are real impressive stats for a head coach. We have a head coach that will not for what ever reason change from a broken system. Even the radio guys are saying to mix it up more and to not fix something that was not broken with Glicks last two starts. When Glick starts off a game like he did for both Ferrum and CNU passing on a consistant basis Barnes for some reason did away with it until late in both games when it was too late. The guys on the post game had a big stink about it in both games about how they could not understand the calling. I'm glad they did. It shows they are not homers.
    I would love to meet you at a game and sit with me and explain to me and then to the parnets I sit with and tell us why Barnes is the right fit for this team. I really don't understand how you think keeping him will turn things around and brighter days are ahead. He runs a dinosaur system Wing T, The players are jumping ship and arguing according to the radio on Saturday. It just blows my mind how you think he is the one to stay. Like I wrote before. This is nothing personal towards the guy. Personally I like him. But facts are what facts are. He is not getting the job done in a program that has put millions into it. Even Ryan Tipps wrote how the team wont have any brighter days ahead until they change. I guess he is wrong also? Please this is nothing personal against you but after talking to many other faculty and staff at SU including parents you are the first to belive what he is doing is fine and dandy. Its time for a change. I just cant understand how you think he is doing a good job. (ALOT)         
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 01:40:28 AM
For the D3 USAC fans I'm very sorry for the long response I gave. But Its just so frustrating for me. I love this team the Hornets. I have been to just about every home game and many away games as well. Its so hard to see the team doing as bad as they are now.  I really do feel for the kids and parents. Because I love the team as much as I do when I start up about them I can keep going and going. Belive me, I hate that I feel along with others that Barnes is not the right fit at this time. I don't want to write about how bad the Wing T is. I would much rather write about better times like they were a few short years ago and the great games we had against CNU, Salisbury and others. Like I wrote before about Barnes, I like the guy personally. He's a very nice guy. I just wish he would show he is willing to change and show us that he knows the system is broken. It needs to be fixed. Again its just so hard to see how high and respected they were in the USAC and also in D3 football.com and the NCAA getting ranked being the team of the week also once when they beat Salisbury and now reading how they are now the laughing stock of other posters. Ryan Tipps said it best. "SU deserves better" I cant agree with him more. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 02, 2007, 01:58:57 AM
Great Players make coaches look great.  If you dont have the players then you throw away a good coach?

SU may have put a million dollars in the field but I bet the coaches salaries wont break a total of 100,000 for the entire staff. 

Dont get me wrong I think the offense you guys play is bad but if u can run the ball and control clock and play good defense....then that is what football is about...

Captains on the clock.  It would be a great week to knock off a public school!

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 02:08:19 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 02, 2007, 01:58:57 AM

Dont get me wrong I think the offense you guys play is bad but if u can run the ball and control clock and play good defense....then that is what football is about...
Roll Pride!

You a 100% right. With that who is responsible in getting the right players that fit your system? Its the head coach. Its clear for the system he likes he has not done this.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 02, 2007, 03:37:50 AM
If your talking d1 then you are correct.

SU doesnt offer scholarships so they will have to take what they can get just like any d3 program (minus the elite).  Some coaches can switch styles based on the talent they have.  I think Methodist does a great job of changing offenses to suit the style of players they have but...that is a double edge sword...

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 03:43:38 AM
and Barnes dose not even try to change his style not even a little. If he wants to run the no points Wing T then he needs players that fit the system. He wont even run the option any like Ferrum did against us. What he is doing now just is not working. Shut out in 3 games out of 9 and averging 7 points just is not going to cut it in any level.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 04:42:11 AM
Quote from: cnu85 on October 01, 2005, 04:09:56 PM
I agree UJ. I was at the game. when SU was down 14-0, then 27-0, they kept running the ball. There doesn't seem to be a game plan for coming from behind. That allowed CNU to focus on stopping the run.

I have not been able to sleep all night. I've been looking at old posts and came across this one from two years ago. Same problem same story.Man, how things stay the same after all don't they? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 05:32:16 AM
CNU85 or other CNU fans. I wanted to make the trip last Saturday to see your stadium but was not able to. I have not been at CNU going back to that great game in 2001. The place was still under construction. Do you have any pics of the place or know of a web site that shows Pomoco well? The CNU web site has two pics, but I was hoping to see more. Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 02, 2007, 06:34:20 AM
Darn dude,

U really cant sleep.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 02, 2007, 06:48:55 AM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 01, 2007, 10:49:38 PM
For anyone interested in the travel diary of three football games in 36 hours and about 900 road miles in the mix, here's the column from the MDT

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071001/SPORTS0104/71001002 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071001/SPORTS0104/71001002)

I'll give total props to NC Wesleyan. They popped the Scots hard. MC gave up its season rushing average per game in the first four minutes. gave up more ground yards to the Bishops by game end than they had in the first four games combined.
That said NCW was ready for the game, MC did not appear to be. I think young Scots would be more precise when you look down the leading play makers, (Hightower, Wall, Slay, Chewning, etc) the majority are freshmen or sophomores. The line has some whiskers on both sides but even there you're looking at juniors mostly. This team did not look good on the first overnight road trip to LaGrange and looked the same flat way Saturday. I expect the travel arrangements will get a shake up before they roll to Va.

Ginn also had the game plan to beat MC. He used that aggressive rush against the Scots as they dumped passes and ran delay handoffs continually and effectively the first half letting MC work its way out of assignment before the play really developed. You can do that when you have a qb like that. The dump over the middle to Bush out of the backfield capitalized on that. Take a look at Bush's touches coming into the game and the number he had on Sat and you'll see just how well planned the attack was.

As for sportsmanship. I think you had one sophomore from MC lose his cool and he got jerked from the game as soon as the word got across the field to Ierulli what had happened. Not excusing it. Even the Murvul radio guys scolded him for playing innocent afterwards.
MC receiver got a penalty for the fist pump after a tough catch and I couldn't tell if it was just the way he did it that brought  out the hankies or if it looked like the throat slash sign from field level. Bush did the same out of bounds after scoring and got the same treatment so call it what you will. I thought the refs got things back in hand pretty quickly.

I have no idea who'll come out on top when NCW and CNU meet, but I do firmly believe it will be a shoot out.

And props to T Lowe. I didnt get to see much of the game but it was sweet little return show he put on in the 2nd.

      Battered...thanks for the link. Sounds like the WB / Maryville game Friday night was a great one. Would love to have seen it.
     Since I missed the Maryville College HC last year (first one in over 10 years) I am really looking forward to Oct. 27th. I will try to track you down and introduce myself. I'll be tailgating on the east end of the field. Don't want to be seen with those tree cutting troublemakers on the west end.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2007, 08:00:32 AM
I work with a guy who lives in Winchester and he has asked me more than once if they fire coaches in Division III.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 02, 2007, 08:29:43 AM
Wow.... I went to bed last night and woke up this morning only to see this conversation had continued all through the night...Wow, I love it, just wish I was young enough to stay up......Love it.. 8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 10:49:46 AM
Quote from: Old Ref on October 02, 2007, 08:29:43 AM
Wow.... I went to bed last night and woke up this morning only to see this conversation had continued all through the night...Wow, I love it, just wish I was young enough to stay up......Love it.. 8)

LOL, I wish I was young enough to stay up also. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 02, 2007, 11:31:36 AM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 05:32:16 AM
CNU85 or other CNU fans. I wanted to make the trip last Saturday to see your stadium but was not able to. I have not been at CNU going back to that great game in 2001. The place was still under construction. Do you have any pics of the place or know of a web site that shows Pomoco well? The CNU web site has two pics, but I was hoping to see more. Thanks

Jessie,
I can't remember if I have any really great shots of the stadium, but I shot a photo gallery for d3football.com last year at Pomoco. There might be something in there that can give you a good idea of the stadium.

W&L at CNU
http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=1430
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on October 02, 2007, 11:56:16 AM
Congratulations to Mike Vann on getting the USAC rookie of the week award. I cant belive we are now 2-0 in the conference. Pretty soon you other guys are going to have to start giving Ferrum some respect.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 12:14:39 PM
Thanks Ryan, They were nice pics. I wish I could had gotten to CNU and see it in person last week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 02, 2007, 02:26:14 PM
It definitly ranked with the best high school games I've ever seen. Maryville High has Brent Burnette (D1 prospect at qb, completing better than 70 percent, for 1,200 yards and 11 tds with 3 picks -- all in the end zone -- in five games), Aaron Douglas (No.1 tightend prospect in the nation, going to UT) and Stephen Shiver will go I or I-AA as a receiver. WB has a top 50 defensive end in TJ Walker, a D1 punter in Kasey Whitehead and junior lb Cole Lail has offers from everyone in the SEC and Big 10.
It was a shame it came down to two missed extra points, but there was a lot of talent on the field and several guys that could be at MC in a season or two -- IF the Scots can prove themselves winners enough to get them there.

At this point Im really looking forward to Ferrum coming to town. I was waiting for a reality check on the MC defense and now that they've had it Im curious to see how they respond this week with a passing game and the option to defend. Scots could be down a linebacker we'll have to see what they say on Wed at practice. It certainly didn't help at NCW but wouldn't have made a difference.

AllSky I'm always in the same place about an hour before kick off and depending on how late and how far away I was for high school the night before I generally try to make the rounds of the tailgaters to say hi and talk to parents.

I left off a kudos for Ryan Gaines. That young man took some big licks to get six receptions over the middle and held on every time. I haven't seen tape yet but from talking to several others, the consensus was that when he took the last hit and popped back up with the fist pump it looked like something it wasn't to get the flag. I personally doubt I could have gotten up after being hit like that, the Bishops brought some heavy wood out defensively.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 02, 2007, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 02, 2007, 02:26:14 PM
At this point Im really looking forward to Ferrum coming to town.

Wow. Imagine how much you're looking forward to the game itself. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 02, 2007, 09:02:40 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 01:33:42 AM
Please this is nothing personal against you but after talking to many other faculty and staff at SU including parents you are the first to belive what he is doing is fine and dandy. Its time for a change. I just cant understand how you think he is doing a good job. (ALOT) 
You will notice (if you scroll back through my posts this year) that I have not made an outright statement either in support of, or against Barnes being fired.  To be honest, I made a decision earlier in the year to weigh in at the end of the season.  Once the "three yards and a cloud of dust" settles.  All I'm doing is commenting on your ideas and asking questions to get a firm grasp of your argument as I make up my mind on what I think should be done.  Just because I find some of your points to be a little bit of a stretch, doesn't mean I don't support parts of your argument either. Keep that in mind. BUT...  At the end of the day, my opinion doesn't matter anyways. 

Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 01:33:42 AM
But all in all I guess 9 straight losses averging 7 points getting shut out 3 times in the 9  losing games and going back to the start of last year the team is averging 8.5 points and were shut out 5 times is perfectly fine with you. They fact that they have won one game in the USAC the last 3 years is well enough for you and that SU needs to hold on to Barnes.
I'm not sure which of my previous posts have supported this theory. 

Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 01:33:42 AM
SU97, Ah what???
First off you talk about the other sports (once again) in d3football.com and actually try to come off as they are in the same bracket as the SU football team. They are no where close to being on the level as the football team is. I wrote it before SU's athletic department has clearly made the football team (not the volleyball, soccer, field hockey teams or even the basketball teams) its poster child. The university has spent millions into a new stadium, roads, field house building and intends to put millions more into it, for they want field turf installed. When the other programs get a new stadium or are put as high as the football team is on the SU pedestal then I will expect just as much out of those teams as well.
Whoa...  you've missed my intended direction with this entirely.  Twice I've brought other sports teams at SU into the discussion to usher in my next point, but you didn't connect the dots as I had hoped.  I brought the other fall sports in as supporting evidence that, historically speaking, SU does not make employment decisions on coaching personnel based on final W-L records.  It is obvious that the leadership has other criteria/priorities that drive those decisions.  What those may be, I have no idea.  I went online and pulled up the student newspaper last night to find that old information regarding the ODAC proposal and stumbled across Mr. Musa's acknowledgement of this type of discussion in the stands (although I believe it's the 800 lbs. gorilla, not an elephant that's in the room).  Read reason's #2 and #3 in his story on page 6 of the sports buzz of this week's paper.   http://www.su.edu/pr/publications/sun/Sept26.pdf (http://www.su.edu/pr/publications/sun/Sept26.pdf)

Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 01:33:42 AM
   From your lodgic if we are going to get rid of one guy we should get rid of them all. Well if you want to go that far well I say why not. Why should the university except losing?
Interesting point.

Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 01:33:42 AM
You mentioned about SU lacks 3 and 4 year starters. What was the excuse when they had 3 and 4 year guys last year and they werent short in them in 2005. You brought up Terrance Brooks. Who is responsible for guiding the team to a high level that Brooks put the team on years ago? Its the head coach right? You said Barnes and Reed Prosser were the masterminds of bringing in those recruits and the inherited player argument is slightly flawed. Well again 97 who is the one in charge of the recruiting now? Its Barnes right?

I have to be honest, I didn't follow this paragraph at all.  I think you mixed in 3 seperate points and I'm really confused.  I was playing devil's advocate associated with reasonings I heard at the last game.






Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 09:57:13 PM
 I'll be looking forward to reading what you think of the situation at the end of the season.
  You say your opinion does not matter. Of course it matters. All of our views matter and I know for a fact that the upper management of SU reads this message board on a regular basis. SU needs to understand that while yes it is Div. 3 and yes having the players graduate is more important (and I agree with that) wins and losses are just as important. Not only to a campus/team but also to the community. SU wants this program to be a big part of the Winchester community. How can the community get involved when all it sees is loss after loss. We are not just losing but we are not even in most of these games the last few years.
  I read Musa's article last week and was curious about what he wrote. He writes part of the criteria of evaluating the SU coaches are having a full roster, graduating, being a good member to the community and wins/losses. While Barnes excels as far as I know in all but the later I have to ask when does the wins/losses come into effect? Its almost as if SU cares more about having a full roster to get as much tuition money as possible than it does about being a strong contending team :o.
   The thing I agree with him 100% is about the stuff being said at the games. During the last game I was shocked at some of the stuff being said and yelled at to Barnes. One lady had to be told to calm down from security. It was ugly and very disturbing to see. While no one should be making a fool of themselves during a game I don't agree with Musa that we should not question or say we need a coaching change and " It has no place in a Div. 3 institution."
   My argument has been not about Barnes' ability to be a good community member or having a high graduating class but his inability to adapt to a new system. Everyone and his grandmother knows that SU runs 100% at first down. I would be perfectly happy with Barnes to stay on as head coach if he would just show us he is willing to change his style of play. This Wing T sucks, its boring and most of all its averaging 7 points in the last 9 games.
   We are on a 9 game losing streak and have won one game in the USAC in the last 3 years is awful. Again just when does a coaches win/loss record come into play? If what SU really wanted to do was bring in more male students for extra tuition money then it had more ways and less expensive means to do this. But we have a great stadium, campus that should be able to attract recruits being so close to DC. Local TV station, papers that cover the team on a high level. I find it hard to belive SU built this program not to be a contender. Chances are we will never be a Mount Un. Crap who is? But we can have a program that is respected and to be proud of. I know its frustrating for you as well. Again I just wish Barnes would show he is willing to changes things up. We are 0-5, what can it hurt?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 02, 2007, 10:01:02 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on October 02, 2007, 11:56:16 AM
Congratulations to Mike Vann on getting the USAC rookie of the week award. I cant belive we are now 2-0 in the conference. Pretty soon you other guys are going to have to start giving Ferrum some respect.

If anyone followed what I said before the season started, they would see I said Ferrum and Maryville could surprise some people.  It is still early but Maryville is 4-1, and Ferrum is 2-0 in the conference, but again it is still early.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 02, 2007, 10:08:10 PM
Ferrum this year should be right in the mix this year. They should beat GC and Methodist is having a down year so they could get that win as well. If they can pull off a win this weekend who knows what could happen at the end of the year when they play CNU. They have a exciting team to watch and i get the feeling that the Panther players are starting to really belive in themselves.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2007, 10:28:22 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on October 02, 2007, 11:56:16 AM
I cant belive we are now 2-0 in the conference. Pretty soon you other guys are going to have to start giving Ferrum some respect.
i was thinking the same thing as i was reading some of the comments...ferrum scares the heck out of me, but i wonder how in the world they lost 50-7 to ehc - ehc could have played 3 games against a mu defense that has looked...how should i put this....less than stellar....and they would not have scored 50 points - ehc was very unimpressive offensively yet somehow managed to score 50 on ferrum...puzzling - i've got to think that game was simply a blip for the panthers and that they've made nice adjustments since game #1 - do keep in mind, however, that they're 2-0 against su and au...2 teams that i might predict to be winless this season if they weren't playing each other
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 02, 2007, 11:00:04 PM
Quote from: narch on October 02, 2007, 10:28:22 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on October 02, 2007, 11:56:16 AM
I cant belive we are now 2-0 in the conference. Pretty soon you other guys are going to have to start giving Ferrum some respect.
i was thinking the same thing as i was reading some of the comments...ferrum scares the heck out of me, but i wonder how in the world they lost 50-7 to ehc - ehc could have played 3 games against a mu defense that has looked...how should i put this....less than stellar....and they would not have scored 50 points - ehc was very unimpressive offensively yet somehow managed to score 50 on ferrum...puzzling - i've got to think that game was simply a blip for the panthers and that they've made nice adjustments since game #1 - do keep in mind, however, that they're 2-0 against su and au...2 teams that i might predict to be winless this season if they weren't playing each other

I think we'll find out this weekend.  At the start of the season the 5th - 8th slots showed a lot of parity and I figured they could go any which way. If Maryville defeats Ferrum (which is what I think will happen), then the Oct. 27th weekend will probably determine the entire conference line up.  Obviously the CNU-NCWC match-up will be the highlight game, but the rest of the conference will sort out through the following:  the MU-MC game will probably close out 3rd place, the GC-FC will sort out where FC finishes and the SU-AU contest will lock down the basement...  I can't wait for the ESPN Gameday Show in Danville. ;D 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 02, 2007, 11:00:46 PM
I hear what you're saying UJ.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 02, 2007, 11:35:12 PM
Quote from: narch on October 02, 2007, 10:28:22 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on October 02, 2007, 11:56:16 AM
I cant belive we are now 2-0 in the conference. Pretty soon you other guys are going to have to start giving Ferrum some respect.
i was thinking the same thing as i was reading some of the comments...ferrum scares the heck out of me, but i wonder how in the world they lost 50-7 to ehc - ehc could have played 3 games against a mu defense that has looked...how should i put this....less than stellar....and they would not have scored 50 points - ehc was very unimpressive offensively yet somehow managed to score 50 on ferrum...puzzling - i've got to think that game was simply a blip for the panthers and that they've made nice adjustments since game #1 - do keep in mind, however, that they're 2-0 against su and au...2 teams that i might predict to be winless this season if they weren't playing each other

Part of the Panthers' turnaround can be seen in their first string: Out of the 11 defensive starters they had in that first game against E&H, only six of them started last week against Averett. Obviously there have been some changes made, especially among the defensive secondary.

SU and AU aren't mind-blowing wins for Ferrum, but I'm happy that they're winning the games like those that they should. Ferrum's not going to compete for the conference title, and they might not even hit .500 this year, but even one more win would be a marked improvement over last season for a team that is as young as Ferrum is.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on October 03, 2007, 10:30:06 AM
I'm really looking forward to this weekend's game. I'm not going to make any prediction as to who will win but I do believe that the game will be a close one. Myself I think the Panthers will get 4 wins in the USAC. Anything more of course will be just extra icing  on the cake.

I read, that link to what that newspaper guy wrote about SU's team. Its sad that he pretty much admits that SU cares more about getting the players money than it care about putting a decent team on the field. A college can have both a strong presence in the community and a strong team on the field. Why does it need to cheapen one for the other? I know SU's reputation is being a strong music school. I cannot imagine the college keeping a piano teacher if that teacher was not teaching them the proper skills. Even if she was a person that was involved in areas outside the college. The newspaper guy was also wrong by saying no one should ever say its time to get rid of a coach. If SU cannot win any conference games or any games really why have a program? It looks like after reading the article that SU has made it clear that they want a full roster and that's what they care about. Just " SHOW ME THE MONEY!" is what they are saying. But pretty soon the reputation of not caring to win is going to catch up to them, and they will have a hard time filling the roster. Not to mention the seats in the stands. That's my two cents for the day.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on October 03, 2007, 10:57:47 AM
Im just wondering . Am I the only panther fan in here? Who cheers for what school and what school is the most represented in here? So far it looks like CNU from the short time I have been here. Am I wrong?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 03, 2007, 11:20:56 AM
Quote from: Black Panthers on October 03, 2007, 10:57:47 AM
Im just wondering . Am I the only panther fan in here? Who cheers for what school and what school is the most represented in here? So far it looks like CNU from the short time I have been here. Am I wrong?

     BP.....I AM a Panther fan but as you know (if you read the ODAC board today) that I have divided loyalty. I am pulling for FC in every game this year except for one. And uh....just so happens to be this weekend!!  ;) GO SCOTS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2007, 11:33:26 AM
Black Panthers -- feel free to get some of your friends introduced to the board. Just make sure they know not to bail after a loss.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on October 03, 2007, 11:47:07 AM
Belive me I would love to get some others to join in order for the Panthers to take over this site ;). But unfortunately for me the ones that would like to join are football players themselves like my roommate is and they are not allowed to write anything on this site.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2007, 11:49:15 AM
Maybe those other players have roommates also. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 03, 2007, 12:39:59 PM
Just wanted to throw out there the final results of the can food drive from the Souper Bowl:

Greensboro 4,321
Guilford 3,967 (not as high this year, no more matching can for can)

Congrats to both schools on participating to such a good cause.

Using d3football numbers for enrollment:

4.88 cans per student at Greensboro
2.67 cans per student at Guilford.

I think this is how they should determine the cans across the conference competition, cans per student.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 03, 2007, 12:45:24 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on October 03, 2007, 10:57:47 AM
Im just wondering . Am I the only panther fan in here? Who cheers for what school and what school is the most represented in here? So far it looks like CNU from the short time I have been here. Am I wrong?

All you have to do is look underneath my screen name to see that I wear my Ferrum loyalty on my sleeve -- though, of course, that doesn't mean I have tunnel vision when it comes to the team.

As allsky7 mentioned, he's an FC fan. We also have Allen C floating around here, though he hasn't posted as much this season as in past years. Back during Ferrum's '05 playoff season, there were at least a couple of bandwagon fans who disappeared after Round 1....yeah, big surprise, I know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 03, 2007, 01:42:55 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on October 03, 2007, 10:30:06 AM
A college can have both a strong presence in the community and a strong team on the field. Why does it need to cheapen one for the other? If SU cannot win any conference games or any games really why have a program? It looks like after reading the article that SU has made it clear that they want a full roster and that's what they care about. Just " SHOW ME THE MONEY!" is what they are saying. But pretty soon the reputation of not caring to win is going to catch up to them, and they will have a hard time filling the roster. Not to mention the seats in the stands. That's my two cents for the day.   
Amen to that. Its sad but its true. SU should had just fielded a club team like George Mason Un. has if this is what they are happy with. It would had been less expensive by far in the long run.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 03, 2007, 04:25:34 PM
Wow, if it did come down to Oct 27 deciding the 1-2-3-4 betwen CNU-NCW and MC-MU then that would make the preview prediction look pretty good ;D

Since its way off topic it wont stop me from noting that methodist softball will be in Knoxville to play the Lady Vols in fall ball at the newly opened $7m complex. Methodist will be  one of the first teams to get to play on the new field and experience the luxury of that place and not even have to deal with Monica Abbott - bonus.

Any of the Ferrum crowd  on the board coming to town for the game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 03, 2007, 05:13:01 PM
Quote from: Black Panthers on October 03, 2007, 10:30:06 AM
I'm really looking forward to this weekend's game. I'm not going to make any prediction as to who will win but I do believe that the game will be a close one. Myself I think the Panthers will get 4 wins in the USAC. Anything more of course will be just extra icing  on the cake.

I read, that link to what that newspaper guy wrote about SU's team. Its sad that he pretty much admits that SU cares more about getting the players money than it care about putting a decent team on the field. A college can have both a strong presence in the community and a strong team on the field. Why does it need to cheapen one for the other? I know SU's reputation is being a strong music school. I cannot imagine the college keeping a piano teacher if that teacher was not teaching them the proper skills. Even if she was a person that was involved in areas outside the college. The newspaper guy was also wrong by saying no one should ever say its time to get rid of a coach. If SU cannot win any conference games or any games really why have a program? It looks like after reading the article that SU has made it clear that they want a full roster and that's what they care about. Just " SHOW ME THE MONEY!" is what they are saying. But pretty soon the reputation of not caring to win is going to catch up to them, and they will have a hard time filling the roster. Not to mention the seats in the stands. That's my two cents for the day.   

Can you repost the link? I'm too stupid to find it after scrolling back a few pages.

Uncle J....get some sleep....your grammar is slipping and Narch and Hasa are drooling....you'll be ok - I love your passion for the Hornets.

Also - I recently heard extremely nice comments about Barnes from a CNU parent. Seems like Barnes is a top notch person - that should/could account for something.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 03, 2007, 05:18:51 PM
No one never said he was not a nice guy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 03, 2007, 05:36:49 PM
yeah, I know. I was just passing along something positive. It's always nice to hear good things.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 03, 2007, 05:40:10 PM
Congrats to NCWC for the thumping they gave the Scots this past Sat. They are skilled, fast, and well coached. The Scots still have lots of football to play before the Fat lady sings. I have know doubt that the team will respond. They need to continue to work hard and good things will come. This alum is extremely proud of the way they have played and most importantly represented the college.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 03, 2007, 05:41:23 PM
After minimal thought, I've decided not to go to the CNU/GC game. It will be the first CNU game I've missed this year. I promised my time to my daughter on Saturday and the road trip would interfere. I'm sure come game time she'll be out with friends, so I will be home listening on the radio. It would have been fun to meet PSBBG and Gullet.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 03, 2007, 05:54:17 PM
True, true. That is why I have tried to make it clear that when I have brought up this rock slide the Hornets are in that it is not personal and that I really like the guy myself. I like what he be lives in out of life and he demands respect from his players and makes sure they all respect everyone on campus. SU has a lot of alternative life styles in campus and as far as I know no problems have ever popped up between the football players and anyone else. Barnes deserves much credit to that. My biggest thing has just been the Wing T, absolutely no offence this year or really going back to last year (avg 7 points per game). Honestly it has never scored a lot of points and it has put the team at a disadvantage from the very beginning. The team has won only 1 USAC game in the last 3 seasons. We all know I'm a huge Hornet fan. So I do not like calling for a change. But if he stays he needs to demonstrate that yes the Hornets have a problem and its getting bigger. He should throw the play book in the trash and start from scratch. Other wise this problem is going to get worse. But as Musa wrote in the paper and Black panthers pointed out the administration is happy as long as the tuition dollars are being paid and the roster is full. I would not hope for this problem on any team or fans. Its not fun and it hurts to see the Hornets to be the butt of all jokes from other posters. I'm not saying I know all the answers. But its just clear something needs to be done.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 03, 2007, 08:53:18 PM
I feel your pain Uncle J. It sucks when your team isn't doing well and the insanity continues.

Insanity - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.

fans like winners. period. we always want more. I wonder what it's like to be a Mt Union fan?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 03, 2007, 09:17:21 PM
Its probably feels like your in football heaven. Most of those fans most likely don't know how good they have it unfortunately.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 03, 2007, 09:55:32 PM
But makes you wonder if the fans didn't begin to question why they weren't resetting the scoring record for a quarter every week.

You can't satisfy all the fans at any time. I remember one guy calling into a radio show the day after UT won the BCS, what 10 year ago now, and griping that the hype around the championship game had distracted the coaching staff and they'd lost focus on recruiting while they were a championship.

I think it may have been then the last time i peed on myself from laughing 8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 03, 2007, 10:20:58 PM
i've just been offered a job coaching a mighty mite team and i was thinking of installing the wing t - i think there is a team in the usasac that runs this offense - i was wondering if anyone could tell me which team runs it, how many points per game they've scored over, say, the last 9 games and if they've had any success (win/loss wise) with the offense?  i've heard it's a real crowd pleaser, as well, so i'm thinking this offense might be a real draw for the local community...you know, we want to give the crowd a good show - does anyone have any insight?  thanks :)

did anyone in their right mind think the mu/au game this weekend could POSSIBLY determine last place in the conference?...i know i didn't, and i'm hoping that it doesn't, either way...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 03, 2007, 10:35:02 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 03, 2007, 05:54:17 PM
True, true. That is why I have tried to make it clear that when I have brought up this rock slide the Hornets are in that it is not personal and that I really like the guy myself. I like what he be lives in out of life and he demands respect from his players and makes sure they all respect everyone on campus. SU has a lot of alternative life styles in campus and as far as I know no problems have ever popped up between the football players and anyone else. Barnes deserves much credit to that. My biggest thing has just been the Wing T, absolutely no offence this year or really going back to last year (avg 7 points per game). Honestly it has never scored a lot of points and it has put the team at a disadvantage from the very beginning. The team has won only 1 USAC game in the last 3 seasons. We all know I'm a huge Hornet fan. So I do not like calling for a change. But if he stays he needs to demonstrate that yes the Hornets have a problem and its getting bigger. He should throw the play book in the trash and start from scratch. Other wise this problem is going to get worse. But as Musa wrote in the paper and Black panthers pointed out the administration is happy as long as the tuition dollars are being paid and the roster is full. I would not hope for this problem on any team or fans. Its not fun and it hurts to see the Hornets to be the butt of all jokes from other posters. I'm not saying I know all the answers. But its just clear something needs to be done.  

I agree with your analysis, Uncle Jesse. For over 2o years I saw, up close and very near the action, many of the same teams play year in and year out. I've seen some schools run the same defense and offense over and over again. I have also seen some coaches who adapted their game to the caliber and strengths of their players. They were usually the teams that built dynasties. I recall when NCWC played their initial season. The offense they attempted to run in the begining was not suitable for a player like Townsend. The following year ajustments were made to an offensive style of play that suits the strengths of his players. It will be interesting to see what adjustments will be made after Townsend is gone.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 03, 2007, 10:58:07 PM
Narch, man you crack me up. LOL I needed a good laugh. :D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 04, 2007, 12:37:16 AM
Narch
I think Pisgah High runs it. Havelock lost a state championship in 75 to that wing T.
Not to mention we had 2 TDs called back.

What a whiner I am
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 04, 2007, 12:50:20 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 03, 2007, 05:41:23 PM
After minimal thought, I've decided not to go to the CNU/GC game. It will be the first CNU game I've missed this year. I promised my time to my daughter on Saturday and the road trip would interfere. I'm sure come game time she'll be out with friends, so I will be home listening on the radio. It would have been fun to meet PSBBG and Gullet.....

Really oh well, I was going to have a huge tailgate party before the game.  More for me I guess, oh well  ;).  I was going to throw a big party in hopes that we WILL beat CNU for the first time ever.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 04, 2007, 01:07:48 AM
pisgah vs tuscola...big time game back then?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on October 04, 2007, 08:31:35 AM
Now you guys are getting into my stomping grounds. Tuscola and Pisgah is by far the biggest rivalry in High school. It always has been. They shut the town of waynesville down and traffic is backed up off of I-40 to even get to canton. Neither one of these teams now run the Wing-T more of a spread type.
        I  however, coach a team at South Meck High School in Charlotte NC and it works great here, i mean we have rushed for 2000 yards in 6 games, so i guess its working. The WING-T is mainly designed for misdirection. However, like i said you have to have a fullback that is a power runner to make it work. It is not a throwing offense either. SU just doesnt have the big fullback type to run this offense. A couple of years ago, the reason they won with this is because they had Frates and Lacey and Mcgee. All of these backs could run this offense well because Frates was the man. Coach Barnes now doesnt have the personel to run this offense type, so it is time to change. But, i dont think that is going to happen any time soon. Looking at their roster, they have some pretty decent wide reciever type of guys, why not throw the ball a little more or run the zone or something. Get out of the old school style.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 04, 2007, 09:22:45 AM
The wing-T/wishbone/option offense just isn't successful at the college level anymore.  Guys on defense are just to quick and to disciplined for that type of offense to have much success.  Even if you fool the LB for that split second, most are quick enough to get back to the ball before much damage is done.  Of course, every once in a while there will be that team that comes through running one of these offenses and have success but that is now the exception and not the rule.  You are even starting to see these offenses fade away at the high school level.


Hey Narch...if you need a "real quick footed" QB to run the offense on your team, I know where to find one  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Oil Can on October 04, 2007, 05:34:37 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on October 04, 2007, 09:22:45 AM
The wing-T/wishbone/option offense just isn't successful at the college level anymore. 

I agree, although Ferrum gave Bridgewater fits with it last year
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 04, 2007, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: narch on October 03, 2007, 10:20:58 PM
i've just been offered a job coaching a mighty mite team and i was thinking of installing the wing t - i think there is a team in the usasac that runs this offense - i was wondering if anyone could tell me which team runs it, how many points per game they've scored over, say, the last 9 games and if they've had any success (win/loss wise) with the offense?  i've heard it's a real crowd pleaser, as well, so i'm thinking this offense might be a real draw for the local community...you know, we want to give the crowd a good show - does anyone have any insight?  thanks  ;D
Now that's just funny  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 04, 2007, 07:27:25 PM
Picks for this week:

CNU over GC by 2 TD's
MU over AU by 3 points
MC over Ferrum by 3 points
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 04, 2007, 07:31:03 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 04, 2007, 07:27:25 PM
Picks for this week:

CNU over GC by 2 TD's
MU over AU by 3 points
MC over Ferrum by 3 points


See, now what aren't you using your knowledge over on the pick-em boards?  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 04, 2007, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 03, 2007, 12:39:59 PM
Just wanted to throw out there the final results of the can food drive from the Souper Bowl:

Greensboro 4,321
Guilford 3,967 (not as high this year, no more matching can for can)

Congrats to both schools on participating to such a good cause.

Using d3football numbers for enrollment:

4.88 cans per student at Greensboro
2.67 cans per student at Guilford.

I think this is how they should determine the cans across the conference competition, cans per student.

Hey PSBBG, this is your best statistical analysis yet.  In fact, for once I:

a)  Agree with a formula you have created, and...

b)  Have something positive to say about GC.

Serriously, that's great work for the community. Congrats to both schools, I wish there were more programs like this and the one AU and W&L hosted in Roanoke.  Kudos.

(PS:  although somehow, PSBBG, you have once again created a formula that... drumroll please...  places GC ahead of the pack.  :o )  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 04, 2007, 07:48:42 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on October 04, 2007, 07:31:03 PM
See, now what aren't you using your knowledge over on the pick-em boards?  ;)
I never got in at the beginning of the season. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 04, 2007, 09:00:26 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 04, 2007, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 03, 2007, 12:39:59 PM
Just wanted to throw out there the final results of the can food drive from the Souper Bowl:

Greensboro 4,321
Guilford 3,967 (not as high this year, no more matching can for can)

Congrats to both schools on participating to such a good cause.

Using d3football numbers for enrollment:

4.88 cans per student at Greensboro
2.67 cans per student at Guilford.

I think this is how they should determine the cans across the conference competition, cans per student.

...

(PS:  although somehow, PSBBG, you have once again created a formula that... drumroll please...  places GC ahead of the pack.  :o )  

Maybe I'm just a half-full kind of guy, but I also see GC at the bottom of the pack  ;) ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 04, 2007, 10:08:31 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 04, 2007, 07:48:42 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps (WCLegacy) on October 04, 2007, 07:31:03 PM
See, now what aren't you using your knowledge over on the pick-em boards?  ;)
I never got in at the beginning of the season. 

It's never too late to start! With the new format, the regular season picks are, in part, seeding for the postseason.

So, you start late. That just means you might be seeded last, but at least you'll get to participate in the postseason.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2007, 12:42:08 AM
Quote from: SU97 on October 04, 2007, 07:27:25 PM
Picks for this week:

CNU over GC by 2 TD's
MU over AU by 3 points
MC over Ferrum by 3 points


That might mean we will win.  As I recall you said we would lose by 4TD's to Guilford.  :P :D

Quote from: SU97 on October 04, 2007, 07:35:42 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 03, 2007, 12:39:59 PM
Just wanted to throw out there the final results of the can food drive from the Souper Bowl:

Greensboro 4,321
Guilford 3,967 (not as high this year, no more matching can for can)

Congrats to both schools on participating to such a good cause.

Using d3football numbers for enrollment:

4.88 cans per student at Greensboro
2.67 cans per student at Guilford.

I think this is how they should determine the cans across the conference competition, cans per student.

Hey PSBBG, this is your best statistical analysis yet.  In fact, for once I:

a)  Agree with a formula you have created, and...

b)  Have something positive to say about GC.

Serriously, that's great work for the community. Congrats to both schools, I wish there were more programs like this and the one AU and W&L hosted in Roanoke.  Kudos.

(PS:  although somehow, PSBBG, you have once again created a formula that... drumroll please...  places GC ahead of the pack.  :o )  

I only created one other formula and that was during basketball season, and as I recall, GC did finish at the top with AU.  The only problems I had were with the teams at the bottom.

Could we do a USASouth basketball pick'em?  I did do a fairly good job on spreads last year.  If you recall the CNU-FC game last year and what I said about that game. Its a little tougher than football because there are multiple games in a week.

If not a pick'em contest a "Fantasy League" for the USASouth.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Parsons on October 05, 2007, 01:42:30 PM
Jeff Hughley has signed a contract with the Chicago Rush of the Arena League after winning AF2 MVP last season...representing Averett and the USAC!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 05, 2007, 01:59:07 PM
Quote from: Parsons on October 05, 2007, 01:42:30 PM
Jeff Hughley has signed a contract with the Chicago Rush of the Arena League after winning AF2 MVP last season...representing Averett and the USAC!!!

Todd,

Did he break his contract with Tulsa or get cut; or did he just have a 1 year contract with them. I would have thought they would offer big bucks to keep him based on his performce this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 05, 2007, 02:08:49 PM
Is it me or has the interest in this board dropped off since last year this time. I swear there was more posting last year. Is it because we have 3 or 4 teams with hardly any wins in the conference? If you go over to the ODAC board they are burning it up; however those teams are winning week after week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2007, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 05, 2007, 02:08:49 PM
Is it me or has the interest in this board dropped off since last year this time. I swear there was more posting last year. Is it because we have 3 or 4 teams with hardly any wins in the conference? If you go over to the ODAC board they are burning it up; however those teams are winning week after week.

The top posters from last year, thier teams have a combined record of 2-15 (AU, CNU, MU, and SU) this year.

This time last year 11-10 with those same teams.

I hope that doesn't have anything to do with it, and I hope it is because the posters are actually busy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 05, 2007, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 05, 2007, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 05, 2007, 02:08:49 PM
Is it me or has the interest in this board dropped off since last year this time. I swear there was more posting last year. Is it because we have 3 or 4 teams with hardly any wins in the conference? If you go over to the ODAC board they are burning it up; however those teams are winning week after week.

The top posters from last year, thier teams have a combined record of 2-15 (AU, CNU, MU, and SU) this year.

This time last year 11-10 with those same teams.

I hope that doesn't have anything to do with it, and I hope it is because the posters are actually busy.

It is wierd how the boards get slammed for a while and then there is a lull.  Does each team have a repersentative on here?  If not maybe it is just all the poster's teams lost :)  That still isn't a reason not to keep the conversation going.

All I gotta say is that I am looking forward to the games this weekend.  Personally, I think the MVC/FU game is gonna be awesome!  It will most likely be another down to the wire game (even though I picked Maryville as my sure thing pick to win), which isn't something out of the norm for Maryville.  If anything they keep you on your toes. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 05, 2007, 03:01:26 PM
FightingScot,

Not sure I can answer your question about a rep from every team on the board. I'am obiviously an Averett fan and I know CNU, Maryville, Greensboro, Methodist and Shenandoah are on as well. Not sure about NCWC. Ferrum came back after a year off. I have only seen two other folks on here from Averett the past year. CNU has a huge following.

My hat is off the to Shenandoah faithful as they are going through some tough times right now, but they haven't run and hide. I must say after last week's game against Ferrum I sure wanted to hide but here I am. Someone has to support these kids or should I say young men.

Good luck with Ferrum this week. They certainly were a better team than I thought. They are big and fast. They run an option as well, however we couldn't cover all the pawns at the same time and got burned several times.

In my opinion this weeks game between Averett and Methodist is going to be one of the better games. Both teams are winless and have something to prove and it will be a great game from start to finish. I believe it will go down to the wire as it has for the past two years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 05, 2007, 03:14:22 PM
Something has gotta give in the AU/Meth game.  I think Meth will win by 7.  There isn't reasoning for it, just a gut feeling.  I think there is one NCWC fan on here.  I didn't know if there was a FU poster.

I just hope we can stop FU's Offense.  I could be wrong, but I believe they have put up 400 yards of offense the past 2 games.  I think the final will most likely be 27-24 Maryville win.  I am impressed with Ferrum this year.   I certainly didn't think they would be playing like they are.  This year is like every other b/c you never know what is gonna happen, except CNU will be around the top of the standings somewhere.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 05, 2007, 03:23:55 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 05, 2007, 03:14:22 PM
Something has gotta give in the AU/Meth game.  I think Meth will win by 7.  There isn't reasoning for it, just a gut feeling.  I think there is one NCWC fan on here.  I didn't know if there was a FU poster.

I just hope we can stop FU's Offense.  I could be wrong, but I believe they have put up 400 yards of offense the past 2 games.  I think the final will most likely be 27-24 Maryville win.  I am impressed with Ferrum this year.   I certainly didn't think they would be playing like they are.  This year is like every other b/c you never know what is gonna happen, except CNU will be around the top of the standings somewhere.

I like you have a gut feeling and that is--CNU is going to get knocked off the hill this year. I predict either NCWC or Maryville and possibly Ferrum based on what I saw last week, will take them and one of the lower teams will sneak up on them and catch them off guard (looking ahead or behind)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 05, 2007, 03:28:04 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 05, 2007, 03:23:55 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 05, 2007, 03:14:22 PM
Something has gotta give in the AU/Meth game.  I think Meth will win by 7.  There isn't reasoning for it, just a gut feeling.  I think there is one NCWC fan on here.  I didn't know if there was a FU poster.

I just hope we can stop FU's Offense.  I could be wrong, but I believe they have put up 400 yards of offense the past 2 games.  I think the final will most likely be 27-24 Maryville win.  I am impressed with Ferrum this year.   I certainly didn't think they would be playing like they are.  This year is like every other b/c you never know what is gonna happen, except CNU will be around the top of the standings somewhere.

I like you have a gut feeling and that is--CNU is going to get knocked off the hill this year. I predict either NCWC or Maryville and possibly Ferrum based on what I saw last week, will take them and one of the lower teams will sneak up on them and catch them off guard (looking ahead or behind)

It would be nice to see a new face at the top.  Maybe this is the year!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 05, 2007, 03:49:48 PM
     IMO...the Fighting Scots need to play well and win tomorrow. It is a crucial game to their season. Obviously, it is a conference game so it is important. However, I think they need a big game psychologically too after last weeks butt whooping. Losing tomorrow with CNU on the road on the horizon is not a good thing.  :o
     GO SCOTS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 05, 2007, 03:56:55 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 05, 2007, 03:49:48 PM
     IMO...the Fighting Scots need to play well and win tomorrow. It is a crucial game to their season. Obviously, it is a conference game so it is important. However, I think they need a big game psychologically too after last weeks butt whooping. Losing tomorrow with CNU on the road on the horizon is not a good thing.  :o
     GO SCOTS!!

How right you are.  What would really be nice is a big decisive win instead of a nail biter.  They obviously can win the close one, but now they need to show they can put away teams the should win.  I know they can do it.  They need to go ahead and show everyone else.  Maryville needs all the momentium they can have going into CNU.  Coach Ierulli will have the boys hyped up for this game.  They probably had a very hard week of practice after the NCWC game, so they should be ready to take it out on Ferrum.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 05, 2007, 11:44:12 PM
Methodist by 16. Danville Virginia meat all over the wall

With the size of my gut I believe my "gut feeling" is bigger than K-DAD's and CNU will get spanked before the playoffs.

Sorry 85: "my conoscente"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2007, 07:43:42 AM
Mosher9, winning the conference is a great feeling but beating Gboro year in and year out ranks up there and this is the reason why. I knw this year players don't have a clue, but no other team disrespected our 0-3/1st season team in 01 like your players and coaches did. Taking team pictures, laughing and joking, and some players taunting us before our game  is something that I know I will never forget. But it is also something I appreciated because it fueled our desire to prove everyone  one else wrong and start doing our own laughing. So I hope that CNU blows the doors off of Gboro again. So lets go Captains take it one game at a time blow out the Pride. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 06, 2007, 11:21:28 AM
I don't have a dog in this weeks fight, but Narch, I have a feeling Hill has a big day today, Methodist by 21, Maryville by 17, CNU by 13.  Let's keep it interesting.

Good luck to all you guys, whoever wins. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on October 06, 2007, 01:27:22 PM
Methodist over AU
M'ville beats  Ferrum
CNU trounces GC


There are two NCWC fans that post --Old Ref and myself
GO BISHOPS!!!!!


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 06, 2007, 01:49:12 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on October 06, 2007, 01:27:22 PM
Methodist over AU
M'ville beats  Ferrum
CNU trounces GC


There are two NCWC fans that post --Old Ref and myself
GO BISHOPS!!!!!



Ditto.... :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2007, 01:51:50 PM
24-0 Methodist in first half about 9 mins or so left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 06, 2007, 01:52:51 PM
14-0 Maryville with 5:34 left in the 1st quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 06, 2007, 01:57:39 PM
Sounds like the routs have begun!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 06, 2007, 02:05:36 PM
17-0 Maryville 1 Minute left in the 1st Quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 06, 2007, 02:07:28 PM
The Kicker for Maryvile, Brad Daniel, just set a record for longest FG kick at Maryville.  Congrads Brad Daniel.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 06, 2007, 02:11:01 PM
And they just came on and said it is the 2nd longest kick... man way to jump the gun :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 06, 2007, 02:17:43 PM
17-3 Maryville, FG set up on a penalty on Coach I b/c his guy got chopped blocked on and got hurt and he said something to the ref.  I'll take a penalty on a coach who defends his player.  I know you gotta play hard, but it is the ref's job to make those calls when they are obvious to protect the players.  It is gonna be a tough played game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 06, 2007, 02:37:02 PM
20-9 Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2007, 02:39:47 PM
27-6 MU over AU, after AU's score on the first drive of the 2nd. AU goes for two but it was stopped.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2007, 04:16:39 PM
Do we have any final scores yet.  Last I heard MU beat AU 34-6.  Not sure if that is the final.  What was the MVC final?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 06, 2007, 04:21:46 PM
23-23 end of regulation.  Great comback by Ferrum.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 06, 2007, 04:36:59 PM
26-23 Maryville wins in OT

FU had the ball first and had 1st and goal on the 2 and didn't score.  They went for it on 4th and inches in OT and didn't get it.  It was a great game like predicted with a good comeback.  GO SCOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 06, 2007, 05:11:57 PM
Narch I mentioned 16 points for today. You over did it :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 07:09:03 PM
7-0 CNU up after first possession of game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 07:14:23 PM
7-7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 07:25:50 PM
14-7 CNU. the fireworks have started......not much D yet.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 07:34:26 PM
wow...didn't think we would need a "USA South in game update" thread.....21-7 CNU. 2:32 left in 1st QUARTER!!

CNU scores...29 yd run ...Tunde Ogun
Faison to Burke....46 yd TD pass
Faison to Ogun...41 yd TD pass
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 07:36:25 PM
Lowe....90 yd td pass..

CNU up 21-14....still in first qt
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 07:39:59 PM
28-14 CNU scores in 12 seconds...80 yd td pass....Faison to Bradshaw

still 1st QT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 07:42:30 PM
dang...gotta go to dinner.....at least it's with a nice looking blond! ;D ;D

Gonna miss a shootout!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2007, 07:46:30 PM
Where is Legg.... Get a State Trooper to escort him to Gboro NC.... 90 td pass?????Come on D. Great start O, that kid Bradshaw is a up and coming star.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2007, 07:55:34 PM
Faison to Bradshaw.... CNU rolling 35-14.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2007, 08:10:08 PM
What is it????? Must have been a Rob Rodriguez sighting :o :o ;D Blocked punt for a td. Robbie Barnes recovers for a TD. 42-14.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2007, 08:29:50 PM
Wow 42-21... Please hurry up Legg... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2007, 09:28:30 PM
49-21 Captains O getting it done... Faison to Bradshaw is money tonight. Bradshaw 3 td receptions tonight and Todd Faison 5 td passes :o :o :o.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 09:52:00 PM
I'm back.....

Bradshaw is fast......even has T-shirts made.

"White Lightning. Can't cover what you can't see". I think he runs close to a 4.4 in the 40.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 10:05:36 PM
52-21..1 min left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2007, 10:07:46 PM
45 yard FG by Jay Graham.... Geezzzzzzz where  was this kid when I needed him. I played basketball against Graham in 04 the kid is a pretty good athlete.

Final 52-21 Captains smash Gboro on a Saturday night. ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 10:08:31 PM
game over.CNU is 2-0.

I was off on the score, but close on the spread..I had it 34-0. CNU wins by 31....52-21.I missed 2nd and 3rd qt...sounds like D came alive a little after 1st qt.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 10:09:53 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 06, 2007, 10:07:46 PM
45 yard FG by Jay Graham.... Geezzzzzzz where  was this kid when I needed him. I played basketball against Graham in 04 the kid is a pretty good athlete.

Final 52-21 Captains smash Gboro on a Saturday night. ;D

yep......i can remember a Rowan game we coulda used Graham
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 10:11:04 PM
hey finest...how did D sound after 1st qt? sounds like some LBs stepped up...most are freshmen
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on October 06, 2007, 11:02:41 PM
Any info on individual/team stats from the CNU/GC game? Passing? Receiving? Rushing? Sounds like the Captain's O really rolled. Thanks!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 11:29:29 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2007, 11:01:08 PM
Good game for CNU, and thats why I said from the beginning they were going to win the conference.  Not too sure why they were passing the ball late in the game though.  CNU had to have at least 170 rushing yards in the game.  Mike Brown is going to be a good QB, they could have ran almost WVU style with him the rest of the quarter, no need to be passing even on first down.  The 45 yard FG has to be a CNU record, how exciting that must be in the record book 52-21 game the FG comes with 1:08 left in the game. 

I think there is a different thread for that.

GC had thier chances in the game.

CNU85, I don't ever want you to question GC's discipline in a game.  I know CNU had all the personal foul calls in the game.  A game which was a rout.  I did lose a little respect I had for CNU as a class act program.  I have been nothing but respectful to CNU this year.  They are still the favorite to win, and they will be my favorite to win next year. No need for the fouls.

that's the first thing Coach Kelchner brought up in post game. They lost focus and he took the blame for not keeping his team focused....too many penalties and too many personal fouls. The coach wasn't hapy with it....that's what makes a class program....he's ticked and he'll make sure it doesn't happen again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 06, 2007, 11:30:27 PM
Football is a game of emotion.  Personal fouls will happen.  It doesnt mean a program isnt a class act. 

My thoughts on the game.  CNU, not as good as they have been in the past but still pretty good.  Your qb didnt look like a baller but he is really accurate and he has some speed guys that catch well placed balls.   I was surprised at how much yall slang the ball around. 

Final thought.  I think NC Wes is going to be a better team when you play.  If yall win it will be on your qb's shoulders.

Roll Pride

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 11:34:48 PM
CNU was most likely passing late in game for 2 reasons....

1. they were probably testing something in a game situation with Alex Brown.
2. Lowe had almpst 200 yards and until very late CNU was up 42-21 and GC was scoring on quick long plays.....so, Coach K probably felt the fat lady wasn't singing yet......

all players CNU brought to the game played except the 4rd string QB and coach apologized for not getting him in the game.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 11:37:50 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 06, 2007, 11:30:27 PM
Football is a game of emotion.  Personal fouls will happen.  It doesnt mean a program isnt a class act. 

My thoughts on the game.  CNU, not as good as they have been in the past but still pretty good.  Your qb didnt look like a baller but he is really accurate and he has some speed guys that catch well placed balls.   I was surprised at how much yall slang the ball around. 

Final thought.  I think NC Wes is going to be a better team when you play.  If yall win it will be on your qb's shoulders.

Roll Pride



I agree Mosh. CNU is not as strong as in past years. But also, the conference as a whole is probably the weakest it has been in a long time, maybe the weakest ever. Whichever team gets the AQ, will probably suffer a blowout in round 1.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 11:41:12 PM
Quote from: tcheadhunter on October 06, 2007, 11:02:41 PM
Any info on individual/team stats from the CNU/GC game? Passing? Receiving? Rushing? Sounds like the Captain's O really rolled. Thanks!!

around 550 total yds for CNU. Faison set school records for passing yds (331) and TD passes (5). Bradshaw had 8 catches about 160 yds and school record 3 td catches. Graham set school record with 45 yd fg...then injured his ankle walking off the field onto the track.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 11:43:36 PM
oh...and RB was by committee.....180 yds...nobody with more than 51
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2007, 11:46:55 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 06, 2007, 11:01:08 PM

CNU85, I don't ever want you to question GC's discipline in a game.  I know CNU had all the personal foul calls in the game.  A game which was a rout.  I did lose a little respect I had for CNU as a class act program.  I have been nothing but respectful to CNU this year.  They are still the favorite to win, and they will be my favorite to win next year. No need for the fouls.

You have to remember I only mentioned it as a result of shirt tails not being tucked in.....I'll say it whenever it happens and have even sent emails to CNU coaches when  I see it with them....so I'll keep saying it, even though you don't ever want me to question GC discipline.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2007, 12:23:44 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 06, 2007, 11:30:27 PM

My thoughts on the game.  CNU, not as good as they have been in the past but still pretty good.  Your qb didnt look like a baller but he is really accurate and he has some speed guys that catch well placed balls. 

Hey Mosh,

what were you meaning when yo say the qb doesn't look like a baller. I'm curious on your thoughts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 07, 2007, 02:24:54 AM
85
Not talking for the Moshter but a baller (a QB) is a guy with with an inate ability to make it happen.

Not pretty sometimes but will throw run or throw his mug into the breach. A scrapper without any one great attribute; but wins. Testicles

One name that comes to as a baller is Sonny Jergerson (sp) of the Redskins. Fat overweight played drunk on occassion but NEVER NEVER gives up. Mosh might see it different :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 07, 2007, 09:11:38 AM
Congrats to Methodist, CNU and to  Maryville on pulling one out in OT. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 07, 2007, 09:15:16 AM
Got to take a nap, went down to ECU last night, what a game! Way past my bed time. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 07, 2007, 10:51:08 AM
Pretty much what Abngr said,

By just looking at the kid you wouldnt think he had the talent that he has. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2007, 11:47:08 AM
85 personally I am still not sold on the new DC or our defense. You would think the program would be taking a step forward but in some aspect I think we are going in the wrong direction.  21 points to Gboro and don't forget they got a td called back later in the game that could have made the game a lot closer. Yea Yea I played defense at CNU so some folks might think my opinions are biased but we just don't look dominate on that side of the ball anymore.  I know the excuse can be used that our out of conference teams are 14-1 but we have played top teams sense the beginning of our program and you will not beat the top teams in D3 if you are giving up 21 first half points to a team like Gboro.  And believe me I KNOW FIRST HAND HOW SHELL SHOCKED YOU CAN GET WHEN YOU REALLY PLAY AGAINST AN ELITE OFFENSE(WIDENER) if they make it to the playoffs.  With that being said the side of the ball is steadily improving and even showed they can put together decent drives in a hostile environment (at MHB) but again you will not win a championship if you cannot play great defense. And if you think at all that my opinion is biased just ask the 05 team which was the first defensive unit to avg giving up 20 pts in a season since our first defense in 01.

Hopefully we will continue to take it one game at a time and make history. After all this is the first team to beat Rowan and hopefully these guys will be the first team to finish undefeated in the conference.

And I know I am critical of MY team and the reason I say MY team is because once you are a Captain you are always a Captain. The ex players in the stands still feel the wins and the loses as if we were the ones still on the field.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2007, 12:05:28 PM
And Mosh I know we have had some pretty heated discussions in recent years and I know that at one point you really wanted to know who I was.  Maybe we can meet up and finally duke it out. lol ;D ;D.. The only reason I couldn't give out my name back then was because coach K absolutely hates these message boards. And if you ever saw that vein come out of his neck when he is angry maybe you can understand that player fear at that time in wanting to remain anonymous lol.

You made a point that you don't think that CNU is as good as we used to be what do you think is the biggest difference from this team and teams in the past?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2007, 02:28:54 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 07, 2007, 10:51:08 AM
Pretty much what Abngr said,

By just looking at the kid you wouldnt think he had the talent that he has. 

I understand. I was thinking the same thing, just based on sideline appearance, when I first saw Faison a few years ago. But he certainly got it done yesterday. He does have a nice touch on the ball...I've seen him connect a few times with Bradshaw....that's a nice combo!

Finest...we agree that the D isn't what it used to be. This is a big transition year. Many new players PLUS a new coordinator. I think they'll be ok, it'll just take time, maybe longer than one season.

Mosh - sounds like you were at the game.....any distinct view on the linebackers for CNU. The coaching staff has been making tons of changes on D and many of the linebackers (starters and others) are Freshmen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 07, 2007, 02:31:57 PM
Narch and Papi
Last night as I was watching Air Force drive 75 yards to salt one away against UNLV I was thinking that perhaps Papi was just crawling out of the ditch near Hay Street ;)

Chicks do dig Coxsmen......................."geez Mav I crack myself up"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 07, 2007, 05:25:47 PM
The MC gamer and coverage package from The Daily Times
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071007/SPORTS/71006039 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071007/SPORTS/71006039)

CNUs finest54 has a point (wow I said that?) other teams have found a way to truly limit Lowe this season. he's a great athlete but he's the man among boys on Greensboro's offense this year. You can put two guys as shadow on him and play the rest of the team 9 on 10 and do very well. He's versatile but still one guy.

Congrats to Monrachs on first win. I can honestly say I didn't think it would be this far into the season before MU got its first win.

Scots faded out down the stretch. I'd blame the heat but it wasn't that. They had enough to win in OT with a great four try goal line stand from the 3. I kind of wonder if it wasn't the unfmailiar ground of being ahead of someone so early and so efficiently. Ferrum came out flat and MC didn't seem ready to capitalize and not let them come around.

Anybody from Ferrum know which player went into shock after the game and how he's doing. I know the trainers took care of him but stopped short of an iv after they iced him down but don't know who it was. Coach davis also collapsed after the game but seemed fine when I talked to him later. The heat was brutal for October a bit over 90 generally with only two gusts of wind by the count of the guys and gal running the video cameras.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 07, 2007, 06:20:42 PM
54-  Its all in the past brother.  The big difference is that when you start a program you generally get some studs that want to play early.  I still see some kids that can really play football but they aren't all the way across the board. 

85 I really didn't focus on your lb's but you guys have a dlineman that has a good motor. 



One more thing 54, Greensboro does some good things on offense.  The timing on the passing plays is causing a little bit of trouble.  The qb is taking some sacks that he prob wont be taking with a little more experience (but maybe the coverage was good all night?)...Its easy to monday morning qb...The biggest thing that killed us was that wr in man coverage.  He can fly.  One thing I did notice that was good from the greensboro side was that the kids never really gave up.  Hopefully that will translate into some wins the next few weeks.

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2007, 06:45:31 PM
both our DE have good motors. Not sure which one you saw.....maybe it was both and just seems like one guy.


The only part of football I don't like is that I have to wait a week to watch another game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 07, 2007, 08:05:01 PM
I hear you 85 but when are we supposed to take that next step? We should be an established program by now, no more we are growing BS. We made 2 runs to the second round of the playoffs and now we have a team that even if they win the conference they are not expected to go deep into the playoffs. Maybe I have too high expectations for our program but I want to see those guys go further and accomplish more than we did.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2007, 08:19:14 PM
+1 for you....I feel the same way about CNU football, basketball and baseball.....

Football....round 2
Basketball......a few Sweet 16, 1 elite 8 and an overtime loss away from a final four
Baseball......3rd in world series, then 2 games to win national championship in same day...lost both...2nd place

many CNU sports are almost there.....just can't get over the hump!

I feel your pain!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 07, 2007, 11:12:42 PM
CNU 54 and 85
I hear you guys and feel the passion and that's good but, stop and be grateful for what you do get.

When your boys get to the show just know and remember how hard it was to get there.

Hopefully the 07 team has the drive you guys have got.

I still hate you ;).

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 11:51:09 AM
we hate you too! :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2007, 02:07:30 PM
legacy posted a good poll on the pick 'em board and i thought i'd reproduce it here in case some don't see it on that board...'cause i thought it was a good question that deserved a little debate :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2007, 02:54:34 PM
Hello All-
This is offically my last post on the board.  I am sick of the poor sportsmanship displayed in the conference, so I don't feel I need to post on here anymore.  The conference promotes good sportsmanship, even by hanging up signs in gyms across the conference.  I don't see it being displayed.  Before I get really scorned by those I know will scorn me. I want to be nice.

GC I think does a good job for the conference in terms of sportsmanship.  They may not have the best teams year in an year out, but the character of the teams are top notch.  A GC Men's Soccer game this year the coach was yelling at the team to stop scoring, and they listenend.  So a coach can tell a team to stop scoring.  Someone said last year that can't happen, but indeed you are wrong.  Some coaches have even said the best form of trashtalking is going in there and just playing your best.  The softball team does more projects for the community than most professional football teams do.  All the coaches are thankful, when fans go out of thier way at a game to show the pride they have for the team, even if they are struggling.  The teams win and win with respect.  When they lose they lose with dignity.

I have been an athlete at one point or another and good sportsmanship has always been preached to me.  I can't sport this any longer if the conference doesn't practice what they preach.  Poor sportsmanship takes away alot from the game.

This past weekend I wouldn't have been upset with CNU had they tried to run out the clock and actually scored a TD.  The 45 yard FG was not needed.  What is 3 more points in a blow out?  The personal fouls late in the game were not needed.  Winning teams do not do those kinds of things.  The coach may have been mad about what happend, but some of those fouls somebody really could have gotten hurt bad.

USA is in our conference name, we should be displaying the USA as best we can, and athletics of the land as best we can.  I don't think I can show up to another USASouth event until some sort of agressive action is taken to assure everyone that the USASouth practices what they preach.  GOOD SPORTSMANSHIP.

Another thing CNU should not get to host the conference tournament every year.  People wonder why the attendance is so great up there, well they have the most students and thier team usually makes it to the finals.  I hate traveling up there.  More travel for the teams is outrageous.  It needs to be closer to everyone else.  Sometimes it should be more about the fans, than the money.

Pat Coleman, we have bumped heads on alot of issues, I respect your opinion, but thing you need to be more accepting to others opinions even if they are wrong.  This is a message board, and different opinions help keep these boards healthy.

That also goes for the rest of you, more opinions are good, not bad.  This board I will miss.

I will be back again some day.  Not under the name PrideSportBBallGuy, but something else. I will always root for the Pride, but years down the road, I could be elsewhere.  Good luck to everyone. Maybe I will see you around sometime.

I didn't check my grammar, and right now I don't care  :)

"Good sportsmanship is sometimes more important than good playmanship"
PrideSportBBallGuy
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2007, 03:07:27 PM
I would never quibble with a team giving a kid a chance at a long field goal to see if he can hit it in a game. If a field goal rather than a touchdown and a couple penalties drive you from the board, then I don't think there's much hope for you.
Title: What??
Post by: Eh-You on October 08, 2007, 03:15:13 PM
You're leaving Post Patterns b/c CNU (in your opinion) showed bad sportsmanship?? I'm missing the connection. What upsets me the most is I'd like to talk smack to you if Averett gets their first, and maybe only, win against the Pride.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 03:17:59 PM
Just a thought... are you saying you would have rather them go for it on 4th down, possibly get it and possibly tack on another TD??  I mean that is more insulting for them to go for it b/c that really makes it look like they are running up the score.  45 yards is a long field goal and if a kicker can hit it good for them.  Also, especially in a rout, there is frustration in a loss and personal fouls happen.  It is the refs/coaches job to police that.  I am sure they were told about the fouls and probably have a little extra running in store after practice this week for them.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on October 08, 2007, 03:27:31 PM
kicking a field goal with less than 2 min to go in a 49-21 game is bush league at best. The coach from CNU is low bread for doing that. Stuff like this usually has a way of comming back around and biting you on the BUTT.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 08, 2007, 03:50:11 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 03:17:59 PM
Just a thought... are you saying you would have rather them go for it on 4th down, possibly get it and possibly tack on another TD??  I mean that is more insulting for them to go for it b/c that really makes it look like they are running up the score.  45 yards is a long field goal and if a kicker can hit it good for them.  Also, especially in a rout, there is frustration in a loss and personal fouls happen.  It is the refs/coaches job to police that.  I am sure they were told about the fouls and probably have a little extra running in store after practice this week for them.  

     I assume (hope) the 2nd O was in the game. With two minutes remaining, I would have just run the ball on 4th down. If the first down was picked up, I would just continue to run the ball as long as G-Boro didn't stop the clock or to the point that the clock could be killed by downing the ball.
     However, as a former coach, I never had a problem with a team scoring late in the game during a blowout as long as the starters were out of the game. Those kids bust their ass all week too and deserve an opportunity to play on the rare occasion they get a chance. It's an opportunity for a team on the losing end to get some players in the game too. Maybe you could argue CNU was working on their kicking game getting some other players some work. Not sure I would be so offended I would call it bush league but if I were the coach, I would not have kicked the FG.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2007, 03:52:22 PM
Previous long attempt of the season, 37.
Last field goal attempt, Week 1.
I don't see the problem in letting the guy attempt a long field goal.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 08, 2007, 03:50:11 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 03:17:59 PM
Just a thought... are you saying you would have rather them go for it on 4th down, possibly get it and possibly tack on another TD??  I mean that is more insulting for them to go for it b/c that really makes it look like they are running up the score.  45 yards is a long field goal and if a kicker can hit it good for them.  Also, especially in a rout, there is frustration in a loss and personal fouls happen.  It is the refs/coaches job to police that.  I am sure they were told about the fouls and probably have a little extra running in store after practice this week for them.  

     I assume (hope) the 2nd O was in the game. With two minutes remaining, I would have just run the ball on 4th down. If the first down was picked up, I would just continue to run the ball as long as G-Boro didn't stop the clock or to the point that the clock could be killed by downing the ball.
     However, as a former coach, I never had a problem with a team scoring late in the game during a blowout as long as the starters were out of the game. Those kids bust their ass all week too and deserve an opportunity to play on the rare occasion they get a chance. It's an opportunity for a team on the losing end to get some players in the game too. Maybe you could argue CNU was working on their kicking game getting some other players some work. Not sure I would be so offended I would call it bush league but if I were the coach, I would not have kicked the FG.  8)

Yeah it definately would be crappy (not to mention an injury risk) if they had the 1st stringers in.  That said I might have tried the field goal especailly if it was the second team in.  It never hurts to get game experience with the kicking game.  I would wonder if it was a second team kicker in or not.  I don't think they were trying to run the score up.  Was CNU still passing at that time?  If they were throwing to get into scoring position that would be a different story.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 03:58:36 PM
There is a whole lot of kicker love that Pat  ;D  I agree w/ ya.  Let the guy kick the ball.  CNU is too busy scoring TD's this year to give him a chance to try a field goal.  Poor kicker...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 08, 2007, 04:03:04 PM
Well, call me crazy, but if someday I need to send a kid out there to make a 45-yard FG with the game on the line, I'd like it not to be his first time trying.

Looks like the second team was in on that drive, yes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 08, 2007, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 03:58:36 PM
There is a whole lot of kicker love that Pat  ;D  I agree w/ ya.  Let the guy kick the ball.  CNU is too busy scoring TD's this year to give him a chance to try a field goal.  Poor kicker...

     I guess in my view, it is just not that big a deal. If a coach has a rep for running the score up, then karma will catch up with him eventually. I've never heard that about Kelchner.  8)
     I would think that losing teams have more important things to worry about. Like what can they do to improve. Before all the Pride fans jump me, I played on a Fighting Scots team that won 7 games in 3 years and coached for a number of years. I have been on both ends of this.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 04:09:51 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 08, 2007, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 03:58:36 PM
There is a whole lot of kicker love that Pat  ;D  I agree w/ ya.  Let the guy kick the ball.  CNU is too busy scoring TD's this year to give him a chance to try a field goal.  Poor kicker...

     I guess in my view, it is just not that big a deal. If a coach has a rep for running the score up, then karma will catch up with him eventually. I've never heard that about Kelchner.  8)
     I would think that losing teams have more important things to worry about. Like what can they do to improve. Before all the Pride fans jump me, I played on a Fighting Scots team that won 7 games in 3 years and coached for a number of years. I have been on both ends of this.  ;)

I got your back  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 08, 2007, 04:19:46 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 04:09:51 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 08, 2007, 04:07:21 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 03:58:36 PM
There is a whole lot of kicker love that Pat  ;D  I agree w/ ya.  Let the guy kick the ball.  CNU is too busy scoring TD's this year to give him a chance to try a field goal.  Poor kicker...

     I guess in my view, it is just not that big a deal. If a coach has a rep for running the score up, then karma will catch up with him eventually. I've never heard that about Kelchner.  8)
     I would think that losing teams have more important things to worry about. Like what can they do to improve. Before all the Pride fans jump me, I played on a Fighting Scots team that won 7 games in 3 years and coached for a number of years. I have been on both ends of this.  ;)

I got your back  ;D

     Thanks PFS!!  :D Brews are on me at the HC tailgate Oct. 27th.  ;) 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 04:23:15 PM
In response to the fact that they feel disrespected by CNU, In Coach Ierulli's first season as coach the Scots traveled to H-SC the final game of the season. H-SC had already lost a conf. game to Bridgewater and probably felt they needed a statement game to have a shot at an at-large bid. At the end of the game the final score was H-SC 82 MC 14. I will say that I believe they subbed generously, yet it is still your job to stop them. It turned into motivation for the Scots the next few years. If you do not like getting beat that bad, work harder to prevent it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 04:29:31 PM
Allsky I'll be there  ;D.  I'm excited for this year's homecoming.  I am pretty confident we can win this year HC Game.

Also, in response to the former Greensboro poster saying about sportsmanship... I believe it was your team last year that had 196 yards in penalties against MVC and most were of the 15 yard variety (and there could have been many more called).  Kinda the pot calling the kettle black.  There is an article on just that fact in the daily times.  I will try to find that article and link it (unless someone beats me to the punch, no personal foul pun intended).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 08, 2007, 04:36:04 PM
Quote from: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 04:23:15 PM
In response to the fact that they feel disrespected by CNU, In Coach Ierulli's first season as coach the Scots traveled to H-SC the final game of the season. H-SC had already lost a conf. game to Bridgewater and probably felt they needed a statement game to have a shot at an at-large bid. At the end of the game the final score was H-SC 82 MC 14. I will say that I believe they subbed generously, yet it is still your job to stop them. It turned into motivation for the Scots the next few years. If you do not like getting beat that bad, work harder to prevent it.

     Highlander....unfortunately, I remember that game well.  :'(  Even though I am a Tiger fan too, I am first a Fighting Scot. That day was quite painful.  :(  Not that it really matters that much or makes you feel much better, but didn't the Scots have a bunch of guys sick that day and unable to play? Seems like I heard that at some point in the weeks following the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 08, 2007, 04:42:55 PM
I don't see the problem with letting the kid kick the field goal, like was said earlier, if a long field goal is needed in a big game, I'd want the kid to have confidence in the kick.
To me, as long as the dogs have been called off (starters out of the game, defense not pinning back their ears and blitzing every play) then let the kids play.  At one time most of us were 40/40 guys (only played if you're 40 up or 40 down) and when I got in the game, I wanted to show the coaching staff that I had something to offer to the game.  Let the 40/40 guys play the game as well.  If not than lets institute a mercy rule, we can stop the game as soon as someone gets up more than 21 points. 
Does it suck to be getting your butt kicked, dang right?  Does it make you see red to see the other team kick a field goal late in the game to add to the score?  It better, or you need to hang your pads up because you are not a competitor, you are just going through the motions.  Use getting you butt whooped as motivation for the next play, next game, or next season.  Take it to that very team the next year.

My Jr. year we were beating a team pretty bad and the second string defense was in.  A good friend of mine was a 2nd string LB and probably the hardest working guy on the team and was in the game late in the fourth.  He picked up a fumble and ran it in the endzone, now if he didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings he could have just fell on the ball and the offense could have taken a knee.  I bet right now if I called him (7 years later) and asked him the greatest play of his college career, he'd tell me scoring that TD.

The point I'm trying to make in that entire ramble is that the game is not over for either team until the final second ticks off the clock, and while I agree there is no need to embarass or try to hurt the other team, there is no need to stop playing either.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 08, 2007, 05:18:47 PM
Anyone want to make some prediction on how many points the Hornets will score this week against Greensboro? Last year SU scored 36 points in what has turned out to be the last win for the Hornets. GC's  D has avg. 30 points against them while SU's run up the middle always first has averaged 8 points. Something has to give this week. I'm predicting 14, maybe 17 points from the men in blue Saturday night.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 08, 2007, 05:19:25 PM
The name of the game is football. You win because you establish winning attitudes in your players, which is confidence. I agree with Papi, if you already have tha game won, put the kid in and let him work on his confidence, it might come in later when the score isn't so one sided.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 08, 2007, 05:36:14 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2007, 02:54:34 PM
Hello All-
This is offically my last post on the board.  I am sick of the poor sportsmanship displayed in the conference, so I don't feel I need to post on here anymore.  The conference promotes good sportsmanship, even by hanging up signs in gyms across the conference.  I don't see it being displayed.  Before I get really scorned by those I know will scorn me. I want to be nice.

Seems kind of a strange way to protest about "poor sportsmanship" when D3football.com and its post patterns has nothing to do with any of it. Why quit the message board?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 08, 2007, 05:41:29 PM
I've learned not to try to make reason from PSBBG's comments.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Three Sails on October 08, 2007, 05:55:15 PM
I believe CNU took 64 players to Greensboro on the travel squad.  63 got into the game and played.  After the game, coach reportedly apologized to the FOURTH string QB for not getting him in.  Sounds like there were a lot of players beyond the 2 deep who were in during the last two minutes.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on October 08, 2007, 05:56:51 PM
As a former player at CNU, I can easily say that playing Greensboro was a nightmare because you knew they would talk the entire game and take shots when they had the opportunity. If there wa a poll for former players I'm positive it would be near unanimous that GC was the worst sports. It's time for somebody to grow up. CNU had 42 points in the first half and only 10 in the second half??? Looks like the dogs were called off. I wasn't there to witness it but it looks like all players who traveled played. If you can't stop a 2nd or 3rd string offense then you deserve a 45 yard field goal. Last year we were up big on Maryville but they never gave up. Maybe Greensboro can watch some film on them b/c I've witnessed them first hand giving up. Maybe they should have some PRIDE(pun intended) and be able to stop a 3rd string offense from scoring on them. How's that for sportsmanship?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 07:27:47 PM
Key for the Scots this Weekend- (1) Show up to play (unlike the NCWC game) and (2) Keep the game close until fourth quarter and then find way to win game.

It seems this team can find ways to win games if it is close in the end. Also, for the Scots to become a player in the conf. they must learn to beat the teams that are champions. I stated long ago that everyone in the conf. must still go through CNWhoo if they want to be the champions.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 07:45:08 PM
Allsky7,

When MC played H-S in the last game of the 2003 season, the Scots traveled with only 42 players because 1/2 of the team got sick that week.  Seven defensive starters did not make the trip and 3 offensive linemen had to go on the other side of the ball to play on the defensive line.  H-S only threw 1 pass in the second half and ran very basic offensive plays.  We were greatly outmanned that day against a very good H-S team.  Coach I never held anything against H-S on the score and used that game as motivation to get the program better.  And it has.....

If there is a team out there that likes to run up the score on other teams is Averett and that is probably a reason why they are getting pounded by teams this year.   Last season Averett was up on MC by 4 TD's with 5 minutes left in the game and they ran a fake punt on the Scots.  That led to a potential fight at the end of the game and thankfully our coaching staff grabbed our players back to our sideline which prevented a bad scene.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 08:47:49 PM
Wow....I drive to DC and in the meantime this board lights up. PSBBG (southernstylefootball) or whatever you call yourself now....I hope you come back. It was always good to hear your point of view...even if it was, as Narch called it, an instant classic.

Not sure I follow your logic.....something about banners in a gym and personal fouls so you quit. I know this board can be frustrating...I quit once (or I'd have about 2500 posts - hey Pat can you give them back?? :D :D). It was the most embarrasing, sophomoric thing I've done as an adult. Here I was, a grown man, and I took my marbles and left the sandbox. It was therapeutic, though. It made me think...and so I came back with a new appreciation for what this board is about, and truly appreciate the hard work Pat, Keith, Ryan and all the d3.com staff put into this. I felt extrememely priveleged and honored when Pat was big enough to overcome my previous attitude and allowed me to post 2 blogs about my radio and Texas trip experiences. Pat could have ignored me - he didn't. So, give Pat a break there.

As far as CNU running up the score.....I say BUNK!!! They scored 10 points in the second half - including a 45 yard FG, with RESERVES!! The kid hasn't kicked a FG since week 1. We have tough games coming up with Maryville, Methodist - yes tough - they beat us recently- NCW and on the road with FC and AU....never can tell when a FG decides the game.And with the 2 CNU in region losses, CNU has to win out to make playoffs. So, practice the FG - we might need it soon!

I heard CNU brought 65 players and played 64. Coach apologized for not getting the 4th string QB in the game.

Personal Fouls - before you quit, I posted that on the post game interview, the first thing out of Kelchner's mouth was that he was upset about the penalties and it showed a lack of focus. He was ticked and I know his players heard about it. Kelchner is a class act. I know him. I've talked to him dozens of times. He understands d3 football. He was even complimented by a UMHB fan because before the game Kelchner went to the student section in texas and said they should "cheer loud....this was a football game". He gets it.

Another reason to quit the board is because the hoops tournament is at CNU???
Instant Classic!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2007, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: PrideSportBBallGuy on October 08, 2007, 02:54:34 PM
Hello All-
This is offically my last post on the board...I will be back again some day.  Not under the name PrideSportBBallGuy, but something else.

classic psbbg :)

believe it or not, psbbg, you'll be missed

and, not to pile on, but if you had attended the mu/gc game at mu last year and listened to your fans in attendance, you probably wouldn't be so quick to call the rest of the conference poor sports - i don't think i posted anything about it for fear of it sounding like sour grapes (since the pride did beat the monarchs for the second time in their history), but i clearly remember how obnoxious the gc fans were...

we all get a little chippy when our teams lose, but given the circumstances and a few days to remove themselves from the situation, i bet even the gc coaching staff doesn't feel like the fg was in poor taste

lose the drama and come back, psbbg...you're team kneads you out their :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 08:53:29 PM
Quote from: narch on October 08, 2007, 08:48:43 PM


lose the drama and come back, psbbg...you're team kneads you out their :)

instant classic...+1 for everyone I can get to tonight...show the love ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 08, 2007, 09:28:20 PM
In regards to Pride Sports Something

The mane obviously never played college football.

The mane picked other teams to beat us week in and week out

The mane is gone and that is cool with me.

Roll Pride

By the way, Averett doesnt have a chance!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 09:36:57 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 08, 2007, 09:28:20 PM
In regards to Pride Sports Something

The mane obviously never played college football.

The mane picked other teams to beat us week in and week out

The mane is gone and that is cool with me.

Roll Pride

By the way, Averett doesnt have a chance!

+2 for you....ok 1 at a time....i owe you one tomorrow....one for not being a "homer" and another one for having played college ball
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 08, 2007, 09:54:17 PM
Upset over a field goal late in the game during a blow out????????????? You should have been with us when MT Union kicked a field goal to go up 72 to 0. We are still here and no complaining.

Congrats to Methodist, looks like Averett has some serious issues from players making bone head mistakes to coaches being unable to get call plays in, get players on the field during a time out and end up getting a penalty for too many on the field and giving Methodist a critical first down after having them backed up inside the 10.

Lots of questions and head shaken going on in the stands. Someone needs to find the answers quick. This is more than a rebuilding issue. Right now Averett has no size to compete, no speed, no offense, no defense, kick off and punting teams can't cover. Appears both players and coaches aren't focused like they should be.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:00:44 PM
and you're still here!! True fan!!

Hey.....my daughter's kicker friend from school....he's getting D1 scholly looks!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 10:07:01 PM
How about some discussion about the mystique that is POMOCO Stadium? What makes CNU so extremely difficult to beat at home? They probably have the best in-conference home record percentage in the country. With that being said I have heard (never been there) that the facility is very nice.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 08, 2007, 10:12:39 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:00:44 PM
and you're still here!! True fan!!

Hey.....my daughter's kicker friend from school....he's getting D1 scholly looks!!

Tell him to work on leg strength, leg speed, height and being consistent. (so consistent he can kick extra points with his eyes closed). Good luck to him.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:13:08 PM
Quote from: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 10:07:01 PM
How about some discussion about the mystique that is POMOCO Stadium? What makes CNU so extremely difficult to beat at home? They probably have the best in-conference home record percentage in the country. With that being said I have heard (never been there) that the facility is very nice.

Not sure to be honest with you. Crowds are nice...but it's not like we're packing in 10,000. This weekend will probably be a little less than 3,000. We had bigger crowds at local HS games when I was a kid....way back in the day. Maybe it's the band, 35 cheerleaders, dance team, no travel, get to sleep in dorms,   I dunno.....maybe a former CNU player can shed some light...CNUFinest- what makes POMOCO (and the formerly un-named same satidium) 19-1 with the only home conference loss an overtime game and now a 19 game winning streak????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:17:28 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 08, 2007, 10:12:39 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:00:44 PM
and you're still here!! True fan!!

Hey.....my daughter's kicker friend from school....he's getting D1 scholly looks!!

Tell him to work on leg strength, leg speed, height and being consistent. (so consistent he can kick extra points with his eyes closed). Good luck to him.

I'll pass it along. There was a long story in local sports page about him. He's the best soccer player in the district and he's not going to play this year...he's focused on the sholarship for football. He finished 10th this past year at some national kicking camp - Nike?? At one camp they start at PAT distance, moved side to side, then back.....he missed 1 50 yd FG and made everything else (something like 24 out of 25??)....already has a 47 yarder in a game this year. I think it was in Texas....anyway, ECU is near the top of his list. He's mentally tough - so he'll be fine.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 08, 2007, 10:18:33 PM
Quote from: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 10:07:01 PM
How about some discussion about the mystique that is POMOCO Stadium? What makes CNU so extremely difficult to beat at home? They probably have the best in-conference home record percentage in the country. With that being said I have heard (never been there) that the facility is very nice.

Playing at CNU is no different than playing anywhere else in the conference. They tend to have a larger home crowd than most, however 2 years ago when Averett played at Ferrum, they had the placed packed. I think it all has to do with the fact that they are constantly winners. That draws a crowd not only from the school but the community.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 08, 2007, 10:19:15 PM
The answer is probally???

TALENT
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 08, 2007, 10:19:57 PM
-1 for me this opens the door to the public private thange!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 08, 2007, 10:22:57 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 08, 2007, 10:19:15 PM
The answer is probally???

TALENT

Local talent to boot.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:24:34 PM
nah...I'm not in the negative karma mood....everyone on the board tonight got a +1 from me....

besides.....after further review....I agree CNU has an advantage by being public. But it's not the ONLY reason for their success....just an important factor.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 10:31:22 PM
They have talent- sure, yet they also seem to be very disciplined in their attack and play. Not to mention well coached. I find it hard to believe that the game might only draw 3000- Maryville has consistently had over that at their home games this season. It really helped to start 2-0 on the road before coming home. The school and community has really been waiting and supportive of the Scots.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:38:47 PM
CNU usually has a big crowd on opening day and then a huge crowd on family weekend. Opening day is usually 4,000+...family day around 5,000...then the other 3 games are around the 3,000 mark. I would imagine they will be bigger this year since the remaining 2 home game are against MC and NCW and each game could determine conference champ.

I've never seen Maryville....the one year they were at CNU, was the only year I didn't have season tix and I didn't go...I remember listening to it with headphones on the radio. It was ugly.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 10:40:23 PM
Quote from: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 10:31:22 PM
They have talent- sure, yet they also seem to be very disciplined in their attack and play. Not to mention well coached. I find it hard to believe that the game might only draw 3000- Maryville has consistently had over that at their home games this season. It really helped to start 2-0 on the road before coming home. The school and community has really been waiting and supportive of the Scots.

It really is great the local support the scots get.  Especially with UT just 20 minutes or so down the road.  I think the guys really feed off the crowd and it just seems like the crowd keeps getting bigger every week...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:41:56 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 10:40:23 PM
Quote from: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 10:31:22 PM
They have talent- sure, yet they also seem to be very disciplined in their attack and play. Not to mention well coached. I find it hard to believe that the game might only draw 3000- Maryville has consistently had over that at their home games this season. It really helped to start 2-0 on the road before coming home. The school and community has really been waiting and supportive of the Scots.

It really is great the local support the scots get.  Especially with UT just 20 minutes or so down the road.  I think the guys really feed off the crowd and it just seems like the crowd keeps getting bigger every week...

and you keep getting better every year! :-[
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 10:46:00 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:41:56 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 10:40:23 PM
Quote from: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 10:31:22 PM
They have talent- sure, yet they also seem to be very disciplined in their attack and play. Not to mention well coached. I find it hard to believe that the game might only draw 3000- Maryville has consistently had over that at their home games this season. It really helped to start 2-0 on the road before coming home. The school and community has really been waiting and supportive of the Scots.

It really is great the local support the scots get.  Especially with UT just 20 minutes or so down the road.  I think the guys really feed off the crowd and it just seems like the crowd keeps getting bigger every week...

and you keep getting better every year! :-[

We smile about that.  Turn that frown upside down  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 08, 2007, 10:52:02 PM
Quote from: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 10:07:01 PM
How about some discussion about the mystique that is POMOCO Stadium? What makes CNU so extremely difficult to beat at home? They probably have the best in-conference home record percentage in the country. With that being said I have heard (never been there) that the facility is very nice.

On that subject, you do know what POMOCO stands for don't you? Check the last two graphs for the answer. ::)
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071008/SPORTS0104/71008009 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071008/SPORTS0104/71008009)

Personal fouls I can handle. Guys get frustrated. The league has attemped to address the helmets being torn off that seems unusually frequent in the USAC, but Ive seen it less this year than last so maybe that's working.

Any MC fans feeling truly out of their minds crazy and willing to attempt a through the night car trip to Newport news after WB and Oak Ridge game, send me a message.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:54:46 PM
"Place Of Massacring Our Conference Opponents "


I like it...never heard that before....I would change the first word to "Palace"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 08, 2007, 10:58:15 PM
From my perspective (elevator to the air conditioned press box with some primo munchies and wireless) Its close to perfect!!!

Reserving final judgement till I get to experience pre-game (had to rush in last time because of a directions issue) and see how it is regular season vs postseason crowd wise.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 11:02:08 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 08, 2007, 10:58:15 PM
From my perspective (elevator to the air conditioned press box with some primo munchies and wireless) Its close to perfect!!!

Reserving final judgement till I get to experience pre-game (had to rush in last time because of a directions issue) and see how it is regular season vs postseason crowd wise.

Saturday's high is expected to be 64.....but then again...that's per weather.com and it is still a few days away!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2007, 08:13:27 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:24:34 PMbesides.....after further review....I agree CNU has an advantage by being public.
+ one million from me for being the first cnu fan to ever publicly admit this :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 09, 2007, 10:42:41 AM
Wow Narch..  I appreciate your honesty.  CNU has a tremendous advantage over the conference opponents in recruiting.   Except for CNU, rest of the schools are between $26 - 32,000.  CNU being a state school is around $10 - 12,000 (room,board,tuition).   It doesn't matter about facilities or location, it comes down to the players and CNU has that advantage.  Compare CNU with the other sports and they are near the top in almost every sport.  It's not because the coaches are better than the rest of the conference coaches, it just they are able to beat the other schools in recruiting because of the cost of going to school at CNU.....

When the NCAA starts talking about splitting up D3, that's where the split should occur, between state and private schools.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 09, 2007, 11:02:03 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2007, 07:45:08 PM
Allsky7,

When MC played H-S in the last game of the 2003 season, the Scots traveled with only 42 players because 1/2 of the team got sick that week.  Seven defensive starters did not make the trip and 3 offensive linemen had to go on the other side of the ball to play on the defensive line.  H-S only threw 1 pass in the second half and ran very basic offensive plays.  We were greatly outmanned that day against a very good H-S team.  Coach I never held anything against H-S on the score and used that game as motivation to get the program better.  And it has.....

If there is a team out there that likes to run up the score on other teams is Averett and that is probably a reason why they are getting pounded by teams this year.   Last season Averett was up on MC by 4 TD's with 5 minutes left in the game and they ran a fake punt on the Scots.  That led to a potential fight at the end of the game and thankfully our coaching staff grabbed our players back to our sideline which prevented a bad scene.....

Fighting Scott,

In defense of Averett on the final game last year with Maryville. The coaches let Seniors play postions they had never played before i.e. Parsons (QB) was playing LB, the punter was on the line and some that hadn't seen much action all year was in there playing. Some defensive guys playing offense, etc. There were excited and trying to have fun their final game of their careers. I don't think the coaches were calling for fake punts. Also if you remember correctly Maryville scored 3 times in the final 7 or 8 minutes while Averett had all these subs in there. They almost had too much fun. They let you come back to within 14 points. I went back and looked at the stats and there is no mention of the fake punt, I honestly didn't see it (talking too much) but the stats do show that Averett kept the ball on the ground during the last part of the 4th. I don't belive Averett ran the score on up on anyone last year, hell they only beat SU 18 to zip. Everyone other win was close with execption of Greensboro. Again, when I look at the stats they had the subs and appeared to be running with exception of a couple of passes first part of 4th.

I am sure if Maryville wants payback they will be able to do it this year. And hopefully it will be a clean game on both sides.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 09, 2007, 11:50:59 AM
Kickerdad, There was a fake punt ran around the 50 yard line on 4th and 6.  There was 4:30 left on the clock I believe.  And Averett was up by 28 at the time.  The pass was incomplete, but in any case that was unnecessary.  That is great he was getting seniors in, but when the score was getting inflated, he shouldn't have done things that even gave the appearance of running up the score.  Particularly since he was losing so much from his team the following year and the favor may be returned.  I am sure they should will want some sort of payback, but I don't see any reason they would be dirty.  Probably just another hard nosed game in the USA South.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 09, 2007, 12:00:50 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 09, 2007, 11:50:59 AM
Kickerdad, There was a fake punt ran around the 50 yard line on 4th and 6.  There was 4:30 left on the clock I believe.  And Averett was up by 28 at the time.  The pass was incomplete, but in any case that was unnecessary.  That is great he was getting seniors in, but when the score was getting inflated, he shouldn't have done things that even gave the appearance of running up the score.  Particularly since he was losing so much from his team the following year and the favor may be returned.  I am sure they should will want some sort of payback, but I don't see any reason they would be dirty.  Probably just another hard nosed game in the USA South.

Fighting Scot,

I understand you point and had the shoe been on the other foot, I am sure I would have the same feelings you do.

I hope we can offer a competive game when we get to Maryville. Right now it is not looking so good. Maybe you and I will get a chance to meet. I certainly hope the weather is cooler than year before last when we came the first week in Sept. It was so hot then the wife had to go find an umbrella to shade with. Look forward to coming back one more time. Your campus is beautiful (reminds me a little of William & Mary) and your stadium and playing field is great. Just wish you could have a bathroom on the visitor side.

You think you could put in an order for snow that weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2007, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 09, 2007, 10:42:41 AM
Wow Narch.  I appreciate your honesty.  CNU has a tremendous advantage over the conference opponents in recruiting.   Except for CNU, rest of the schools are between $26 - 32,000.  CNU being a state school is around $10 - 12,000 (room,board,tuition).   It doesn't matter about facilities or location, it comes down to the players and CNU has that advantage.  Compare CNU with the other sports and they are near the top in almost every sport. 
this is a debate that has been hashed and re-hashed so many times i've lost count...i've come to the conclussion that i like cnu in the conference because it makes beating them even sweeter (even though it doesn't happen much in football :))
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 09, 2007, 02:04:26 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 09, 2007, 10:42:41 AM
When the NCAA starts talking about splitting up D3, that's where the split should occur, between state and private schools.

The 25% of Division III that's public schools wins about 25% of the national championships. Hardly seems like a gigantic competitive advantage.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 09, 2007, 02:12:36 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 09, 2007, 10:42:41 AM

When the NCAA starts talking about splitting up D3, that's where the split should occur, between state and private schools.
No, the public/private split may not be as dramatic in the D3/D4 issues as you suspect.

If the support for NCAA Legislative issues is a clue as to who will be going to D4, it looks like the WIAC might be a D4 supporter and the USASouth and the Capital AC (with its public members of Salisbury and St Mary's) stay in D3.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 09, 2007, 02:28:25 PM
Here are the game notes for the SU/GC game this weekend.
http://www.su.edu/athletics/football_gn.pdf

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 09, 2007, 05:19:51 PM
I mentioned last week that this message board did not seem as active as last year. Therefore, I went back to last year and here is a list of posters that were going strong last year.

ABNRGR         
ADMIRALPAPI
ALLEN C
BEAR75
BILL MCCABE
CNUDUDE
CNUFAN
CNUFINEST54
CNULIFER
CNU85
CRAZYLEGGS33
DO.C.
D3NEWBIE
EH-YOU
FIVEMICS
FOOTBALL JOE
GCGULLETT
HASANOVA
HUG
JAF
LEATHERHELMET
LLAMAGUY
MATT BARNHART
MCOL51
MC55OL
NARCH
NNASID
OBNOXIOUSSUFAN
OLINEMOM
PRIDESPORTBALLGUY
RALPH TURNER
ROCKET
RYAN TIPPS
TCHEADHUNTER
TXMIKE
UNCLE JESSIE

Appears there are some that have vacated, moved on to other message boards or just plain up and quit.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 09, 2007, 05:24:30 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 09, 2007, 05:19:51 PM
I mentioned last week that this message board did not seem as active as last year. Therefore, I went back to last year and here is a list of posters that were going strong last year.

ABNRGR         
ADMIRALPAPI
ALLEN C
BEAR75
BILL MCCABE
CNUDUDE
CNUFAN
CNUFINEST54
CNULIFER
CNU85
CRAZYLEGGS33
DO.C.
D3NEWBIE
EH-YOU
FIVEMICS
FOOTBALL JOE
GCGULLETT
HASANOVA
HUG
JAF
LEATHERHELMET
LLAMAGUY
MATT BARNHART
MCOL51
MC55OL
NARCH
NNASID
OBNOXIOUSSUFAN
OLINEMOM
PRIDESPORTBALLGUY
RALPH TURNER
ROCKET
RYAN TIPPS
TCHEADHUNTER
TXMIKE
UNCLE JESSIE

Appears there are some that have vacated, moved on to other message boards or just plain up and quit.


and some whined to their AD like little children, thus forcing other AD's to put a lid on department members from posting - thus we lose some inside semi-scoops!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 09, 2007, 05:42:54 PM
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE :o

I take a bye week myself... and low and behold it's bizzaro world on here since I last checked:

1.  I miss the greatest post in the history of mankind.
Quote from: narch on October 08, 2007, 08:48:43 PM
lose the drama and come back, psbbg...you're team kneads you out their :)

2.  CNU85 conceeds the Private/Public debate (now what are we going to talk about on the hoops board?)
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:24:34 PMbesides.....after further review....I agree CNU has an advantage by being public.

3.  and PSBBG packs it in over a field goal and sportsmanship???  WTF?  





Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 09, 2007, 05:50:41 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 09, 2007, 05:42:54 PM
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE :o

I take a bye week myself... and low and behold it's bizzaro world on here since I last checked:

1.  I miss the greatest post in the history of mankind.
Quote from: narch on October 08, 2007, 08:48:43 PM
lose the drama and come back, psbbg...you're team kneads you out their :)

2.  CNU85 conceeds the Private/Public debate (now what are we going to talk about on the hoops board?)
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:24:34 PMbesides.....after further review....I agree CNU has an advantage by being public.

3.  and PSBBG packs it in over a field goal and sportsmanship???  WTF?  







You can't blink without something happening.  The boards have blown up the past 2 days.  It's been great!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 09, 2007, 05:52:25 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 09, 2007, 10:42:41 AM
When the NCAA starts talking about splitting up D3, that's where the split should occur, between state and private schools.

You know that's what I always thought was behind the move to establish a split, but the thread over on "General Division III Issues" and "Future of Division III" was very enlightening. (If you have an extra, say 37 hours, on your hands then it's really worth delving into)  The information there is really thought provoking, to the point I no longer see it as Public-Private.  Head over there and check it out.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 09, 2007, 06:03:07 PM
Kickerdad, aren't a bunch of those posters BC guys?  Not that it matters, but I don't think the USASAC teams are playing them this year (other than the beatdown delivered at SU the other week).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 09, 2007, 06:45:01 PM
SU
Yea..... there are a bunch of BCers' there but MC and GC-Q people are there too. The biggest posters from BC who do not hit here much anymore are:

LLAMA and SKOAL.

Skoal had the brutal wit. LLAMA  is cute.  ;) At least that cheerleader he was with was.

Personally I did no research or asked for any scoops from people I know (this year)so I just talk smack every once and a while. Some people say I never did any research. :) But I try to get Skoal to come out of his personal wine vinyard and cellar but he hardly takes the bai.t

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 09, 2007, 10:50:55 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 09, 2007, 06:03:07 PM
Kickerdad, aren't a bunch of those posters BC guys?  Not that it matters, but I don't think the USASAC teams are playing them this year (other than the beatdown delivered at SU the other week).

SU97, someone else will have to answer your question. I do go over to the ODAC board and read when the USASC teams are playing ODAC, but I haven't been posting long enough to know who is who. I do remember a few but not all.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 09, 2007, 11:33:01 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:13:08 PM
Quote from: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 10:07:01 PM
How about some discussion about the mystique that is POMOCO Stadium? What makes CNU so extremely difficult to beat at home? They probably have the best in-conference home record percentage in the country. With that being said I have heard (never been there) that the facility is very nice.

Not sure to be honest with you. Crowds are nice...but it's not like we're packing in 10,000. This weekend will probably be a little less than 3,000. We had bigger crowds at local HS games when I was a kid....way back in the day. Maybe it's the band, 35 cheerleaders, dance team, no travel, get to sleep in dorms,   I dunno.....maybe a former CNU player can shed some light...CNUFinest- what makes POMOCO (and the formerly un-named same satidium) 19-1 with the only home conference loss an overtime game and now a 19 game winning streak????


We have done pretty well over the years but I think Mount is just a little bit better at home. ;D
85 we just had PRIDE for our home turf no matter who we played. Our fans treat us like a D1 program when we are at home and we do our best to try and give them a show and a W.  You just have to want it 85 and for some reason when we make that walk onto the field from the gates we just want it more.  Football is a game of emotion and we thrive on those fans at Pomoco....I still get fired up when I walk thru the gates now when I go to home games. And besides if you ever go to a CNU game you will see a lot of hot girls  ;D. And nothing turns hot college girls on more than a winning team and a stud player. lol. OOOOOOOOOOO  OOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOO WHO CNU.....



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 10, 2007, 05:37:59 AM
If hot girls is a recipe for a successful football team then UNC-Wilmington should start a team tomorrow...watcha think Narch...we can practice your wing T on Masonboro to improve our speed  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on October 10, 2007, 10:01:41 AM
OK i have a question. I know it says to go to the FAQ section to find out about karma, but i have no clue as to where this is at. I cant find it. I dont have any karma either, is that bad, everyone else has like + 30 and i have 1 i think, not good? lol, oh well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 10, 2007, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on October 10, 2007, 10:01:41 AM
OK i have a question. I know it says to go to the FAQ section to find out about karma, but i have no clue as to where this is at. I cant find it. I dont have any karma either, is that bad, everyone else has like + 30 and i have 1 i think, not good? lol, oh well.
Well, since you're a "newbie", you're at the mercy of others. You can't give (applaud) or take (smite) karma until you're at 200 posts.  When you reach that number, those options will "magically" appear on your screen.  Most people use it well to reward someone who's done or said something worthy or, on the opposite side, to chastise someone for saying something really stupid or overly inflammatory.  lol  For the most part, don't worry about it ... just post and let it flow as it will.  FYI - those who ask for karma, usually get the opposite effect.  :)  Peace and a karma for you. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 10, 2007, 10:15:18 AM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on October 10, 2007, 10:01:41 AM
OK i have a question. I know it says to go to the FAQ section to find out about karma, but i have no clue as to where this is at. I cant find it. I dont have any karma either, is that bad, everyone else has like + 30 and i have 1 i think, not good? lol, oh well.

Karma on the FAQ (http://www.d3football.com/faq.php?question&category=Message%20board)

The Frequently Asked Questions section is found on the left siderail on the home page of D3football.com.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 10, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on October 10, 2007, 05:37:59 AM
If hot girls is a recipe for a successful football team then UNC-Wilmington should start a team tomorrow...watcha think Narch...we can practice your wing T on Masonboro to improve our speed  ;D
Amen.  Put the field on the tip of Wrightsville Beach with a view of the ocean on one side and the sound on the other.  What's the score?  Who cares!  Just pass me another Corona!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 10, 2007, 10:24:28 AM
Man, this foard has been popping this week. Just sat back and enjoyed. Keep it up, haven't seen any yellow flag opportunities. As the old saying goes, let the boys play
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 10, 2007, 12:16:26 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 09, 2007, 11:33:01 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:13:08 PM
Quote from: Highlander on October 08, 2007, 10:07:01 PM
How about some discussion about the mystique that is POMOCO Stadium? What makes CNU so extremely difficult to beat at home? They probably have the best in-conference home record percentage in the country. With that being said I have heard (never been there) that the facility is very nice.

Not sure to be honest with you. Crowds are nice...but it's not like we're packing in 10,000. This weekend will probably be a little less than 3,000. We had bigger crowds at local HS games when I was a kid....way back in the day. Maybe it's the band, 35 cheerleaders, dance team, no travel, get to sleep in dorms,   I dunno.....maybe a former CNU player can shed some light...CNUFinest- what makes POMOCO (and the formerly un-named same satidium) 19-1 with the only home conference loss an overtime game and now a 19 game winning streak????


We have done pretty well over the years but I think Mount is just a little bit better at home. ;D
85 we just had PRIDE for our home turf no matter who we played. Our fans treat us like a D1 program when we are at home and we do our best to try and give them a show and a W.  You just have to want it 85 and for some reason when we make that walk onto the field from the gates we just want it more.  Football is a game of emotion and we thrive on those fans at Pomoco....I still get fired up when I walk thru the gates now when I go to home games. And besides if you ever go to a CNU game you will see a lot of hot girls  ;D. And nothing turns hot college girls on more than a winning team and a stud player. lol. OOOOOOOOOOO  OOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOO WHO CNU.....





I used to stand by the field and watch you guys walk from the locker room to the field.....

CNU's IN THE HOUSE
BAD NEWS!!!

That was cool!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 10, 2007, 12:17:30 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 09, 2007, 05:42:54 PM
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE :o

I take a bye week myself... and low and behold it's bizzaro world on here since I last checked:

1.  I miss the greatest post in the history of mankind.
Quote from: narch on October 08, 2007, 08:48:43 PM
lose the drama and come back, psbbg...you're team kneads you out their :)

2.  CNU85 conceeds the Private/Public debate (now what are we going to talk about on the hoops board?)
Quote from: CNU85 on October 08, 2007, 10:24:34 PMbesides.....after further review....I agree CNU has an advantage by being public.

3.  and PSBBG packs it in over a field goal and sportsmanship???  WTF?  







We be havin' fun!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 10, 2007, 12:18:15 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 09, 2007, 06:45:01 PM
SU
Yea..... there are a bunch of BCers' there but MC and GC-Q people are there too. The biggest posters from BC who do not hit here much anymore are:

LLAMA and SKOAL.

Skoal had the brutal wit. LLAMA  is cute.  ;) At least that cheerleader he was with was.

Personally I did no research or asked for any scoops from people I know (this year)so I just talk smack every once and a while. Some people say I never did any research. :) But I try to get Skoal to come out of his personal wine vinyard and cellar but he hardly takes the bai.t



Llama doesn't get cute even after communion!!  :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 10, 2007, 01:36:38 PM
Dang, everyone is over on the pick-em board thinking NCWC is going to score close to 60 points on Averett this week. Gosh, can't imagine why. Gotta have faith...one would think after 10 weeks that the defense would toughen up a little.  ;D :o ???

I gotten put that bottle of Wild Turkey away.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 10, 2007, 01:42:18 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on September 25, 2007, 12:46:29 PM
kickerdad - not sure i follow you. granted, I haven't seen them play this year but your first comment was "dumb mistakes", then you ranted about everything from technique to special teams to coaching. I'm not really saying either way because I haven't seen it first hand. is it dumb mistakes or is it a complete trainwreck? If it is as bad as you say then doesn't it have to be b/c of the lost players? The coaching staff isn't that much different is it?

En-you,

Were you able to go to the game last week and see first hand what I am talking about?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC DAD on October 10, 2007, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 10, 2007, 01:36:38 PM
Dang, everyone is over on the pick-em board thinking NCWC is going to score close to 60 points on Averett this week. Gosh, can't imagine why. Gotta have faith...one would think after 10 weeks that the defense would toughen up a little.  ;D :o ???

I gotten put that bottle of Wild Turkey away.

Kickerdad, I hate to ask a stupid question, but where is the pick-em board?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 10, 2007, 05:12:18 PM
NCWC dad, glad to know we have another supporter. I think that makes three now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 10, 2007, 05:17:50 PM
Just to add to that, I really don't care how many NCWC scores as long as it is one more than the opposition.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 10, 2007, 05:21:09 PM
I think that is how everyone feels...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 10, 2007, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 10, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
Amen.  Put the field on the tip of Wrightsville Beach with a view of the ocean on one side and the sound on the other.  What's the score?  Who cares!  Just pass me another Corona!

The wisest quote ever typed...except I'd trade the Corona for a bottle of rum  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 10, 2007, 09:01:22 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on October 10, 2007, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 10, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
Amen.  Put the field on the tip of Wrightsville Beach with a view of the ocean on one side and the sound on the other.  What's the score?  Who cares!  Just pass me another Corona!

The wisest quote ever typed...except I'd trade the Corona for a bottle of rum  ;D
Cheers!  That's the spirit!  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 10, 2007, 09:43:43 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on October 10, 2007, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 10, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
Amen.  Put the field on the tip of Wrightsville Beach with a view of the ocean on one side and the sound on the other.  What's the score?  Who cares!  Just pass me another Corona!

The wisest quote ever typed...except I'd trade the Corona for a bottle of rum  ;D

time for a Hasanova poem about rum!!
nothing like drinking rum and dancing with Madame Voodoo in the USVI!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 10, 2007, 09:50:05 PM
Quote from: NCWC DAD on October 10, 2007, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 10, 2007, 01:36:38 PM
Dang, everyone is over on the pick-em board thinking NCWC is going to score close to 60 points on Averett this week. Gosh, can't imagine why. Gotta have faith...one would think after 10 weeks that the defense would toughen up a little.  ;D :o ???

I gotten put that bottle of Wild Turkey away.

Kickerdad, I hate to ask a stupid question, but where is the pick-em board?


get back to the main Post Patterns page...go to General Football and you'll see the pickems by conference....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 10, 2007, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 10, 2007, 05:21:09 PM
I think that is how everyone feels...

En-You were are you, I am out numbered  here and everyone is guning for us, even though we are the worst team in the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 10, 2007, 10:49:02 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 10, 2007, 10:38:59 PM
En-You were are you, I am out numbered  here and everyone is guning for us, even though we are the worst team in the conference.
Not so fast Kickerdad...  it's kinda like the CNU-NCWC debate: Until you knock SU off for last place, we hold the crown.  Until you've put in the time with 9 straight losses and a 4-21 record, you can't touch SU's firm hold on last place...  it's kind of like a dynasty.  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 10, 2007, 10:56:08 PM
Of course, for you to knock us off, we would need to knock you off. ???  or something.

Hasa - can I get another round of those Coronas over here? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 10, 2007, 11:00:16 PM
So if I make the trek though the wee hours saturday to Newport News just to see MC go down by 28 does that mean CNU85 owes me a beer before the game?  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 10, 2007, 11:16:33 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 10, 2007, 10:49:02 PMNot so fast Kickerdad...  it's kinda like the CNU-NCWC debate: Until you knock SU off for last place, we hold the crown.  Until you've put in the time with 9 straight losses and a 4-21 record, you can't touch SU's firm hold on last place...  it's kind of like a dynasty.  ;D ;D ;D
yeah, and i think au is averaging way more than 7 points per game, too :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 10, 2007, 11:31:20 PM
Cougar meat all over the ceiling this weekend.

SU is meat too

CNU 54 and 85 will have to get a Skoal emergency medical bag (Bag full of Tequila) to recover from this loss.

SO Narch you been blowing me off eh? Getting into those leather chaps a little too much lately huh......Papi too I bet.

I understand his problem they barely speak an understandable english down "thar Hawker ilund sun, dam er sun....mullets be jumpin in dar boat sun"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 11, 2007, 01:16:14 AM
Quote from: SU97 on October 10, 2007, 10:49:02 PM
Not so fast Kickerdad...  it's kinda like the CNU-NCWC debate: Until you knock SU off for last place, we hold the crown.  Until you've put in the time with 9 straight losses and a 4-21 record, you can't touch SU's firm hold on last place...  it's kind of like a dynasty.  ;D ;D ;D
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LOL thats a good one. One karma point for 97
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 11, 2007, 06:16:07 AM
ABN...we don't speak english...we speak Harkonese ;D 

You still planning a trek through Lejeune?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2007, 09:22:21 AM
Quote from: SU97 on October 10, 2007, 10:56:08 PM
Of course, for you to knock us off, we would need to knock you off. ???  or something.

Hasa - can I get another round of those Coronas over here? 

Sure.  :)  Hey, the Quakers visit SU this winter for hoops - you need to check out Ben Strong if you've never seen him play.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2007, 09:34:39 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 10, 2007, 09:43:43 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on October 10, 2007, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 10, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
Amen.  Put the field on the tip of Wrightsville Beach with a view of the ocean on one side and the sound on the other.  What's the score?  Who cares!  Just pass me another Corona!

The wisest quote ever typed...except I'd trade the Corona for a bottle of rum  ;D

time for a Hasanova poem about rum!!
nothing like drinking rum and dancing with Madame Voodoo in the USVI!!
You know I can't resist a challenge.  lol  Check out the one I did this morning for Stone Station on the ODAC board.  Here goes - the five minute on demand limerick:

There once was wild fan who's drinkin'
With his football compadres, I'm thinkin'.
One said, "Man, where you from?
'Cause your breath smells like rum
And the tailgate you peed on is stinking!"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 11, 2007, 10:17:35 AM
That was so bad
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 11, 2007, 11:37:46 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 11, 2007, 09:34:39 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 10, 2007, 09:43:43 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on October 10, 2007, 05:54:50 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 10, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
Amen.  Put the field on the tip of Wrightsville Beach with a view of the ocean on one side and the sound on the other.  What's the score?  Who cares!  Just pass me another Corona!

The wisest quote ever typed...except I'd trade the Corona for a bottle of rum  ;D

time for a Hasanova poem about rum!!
nothing like drinking rum and dancing with Madame Voodoo in the USVI!!
You know I can't resist a challenge.  lol  Check out the one I did this morning for Stone Station on the ODAC board.  Here goes - the five minute on demand limerick:

There once was wild fan who's drinkin'
With his football compadres, I'm thinkin'.
One said, "Man, where you from?
'Cause your breath smells like rum
And the tailgate you peed on is stinking!"

Hasa,

That was so bad.........I need to go find the Wild Turkey......110 proof
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 11, 2007, 01:39:05 PM
Quote from: NCWC DAD on October 10, 2007, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 10, 2007, 01:36:38 PM
Dang, everyone is over on the pick-em board thinking NCWC is going to score close to 60 points on Averett this week. Gosh, can't imagine why. Gotta have faith...one would think after 10 weeks that the defense would toughen up a little.  ;D :o ???

I gotten put that bottle of Wild Turkey away.

Kickerdad, I hate to ask a stupid question, but where is the pick-em board?

Quote from: CNU85 on October 10, 2007, 09:50:05 PM
Quote from: NCWC DAD on October 10, 2007, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 10, 2007, 01:36:38 PM
Dang, everyone is over on the pick-em board thinking NCWC is going to score close to 60 points on Averett this week. Gosh, can't imagine why. Gotta have faith...one would think after 10 weeks that the defense would toughen up a little.  ;D :o ???

I gotten put that bottle of Wild Turkey away.

Kickerdad, I hate to ask a stupid question, but where is the pick-em board?


get back to the main Post Patterns page...go to General Football and you'll see the pickems by conference....

NCWC DAD,

Were you able to get to the "pick-ems" ....CNU85 gave you directions earlier.
Title: I'm here..........
Post by: Eh-You on October 11, 2007, 01:41:11 PM
kickerdad - I did see the game Sat. Made me want to put my hands over my eyes. The problem could be a bunch of things but I think when you're that bad it is more than likely a little bit of everything. I can say this, I think Coach D and his staff have a good idea what it takes to build a winner. I'm going to sit tight and support through this season. But I do wish they were better b/c I love defending them and talking junk to others about them - but now there isn't anything to say. I check out the boards everyday but good grief I can't do anything but complain about this season and I don't want to turn on the team or the staff.
Title: Re: I'm here..........
Post by: kickerdad on October 11, 2007, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 11, 2007, 01:41:11 PM
kickerdad - I did see the game Sat. Made me want to put my hands over my eyes. The problem could be a bunch of things but I think when you're that bad it is more than likely a little bit of everything. I can say this, I think Coach D and his staff have a good idea what it takes to build a winner. I'm going to sit tight and support through this season. But I do wish they were better b/c I love defending them and talking junk to others about them - but now there isn't anything to say. I check out the boards everyday but good grief I can't do anything but complain about this season and I don't want to turn on the team or the staff.

Good point, hey if you get there early enough this week, look for a blue tent. We will be tailgaiting with a couple of other parents. You are more than welcome to help yourself to some food. Don't know what it will be yet, but I am sure the mom's will take of you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2007, 02:23:55 PM
mosh and kickerdad - I'd been drinking, so I wasn't sober enough to write.  Well, gotta go to my AA meeting.  Later.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 11, 2007, 02:26:20 PM
Here is a article on the Hornets losing streak in today's Winchester Star.http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=1736
"If the Hornets hope to get any momentum heading into the second half of the season, they need to start by performing well against the last team they beat. Shenandoah forced six turnovers, blocked a punt, ran for 228 yards and held the ball for 40 minutes and 19 seconds in last year's 36-10 win on Oct 14. The Hornets haven't won since, losing nine straight games in the process."by Robert Niedzwiecki

I think the key sentence Niedzwieki wrote was this "another lopsided defeat could be devastating." One would think things are bad now for SU but a loss on Saturday would throw any confidence they have left in the season right out of the locker room.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 11, 2007, 02:45:51 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 10, 2007, 11:00:16 PM
So if I make the trek though the wee hours saturday to Newport News just to see MC go down by 28 does that mean CNU85 owes me a beer before the game?  :D


Before, at halftime, and after!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 11, 2007, 02:48:14 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 11, 2007, 02:23:55 PM
mosh and kickerdad - I'd been drinking, so I wasn't sober enough to write.  Well, gotta go to my AA meeting.  Later.  :)

:D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 11, 2007, 05:55:41 PM
Hasa
It happens to the best of us.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 11, 2007, 10:37:54 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 11, 2007, 05:55:41 PM
Hasa
It happens to the best of us.
Thanks, mosh.  You were with the Quaker staff last year, weren't you?  What do you think of their chances at BC on Saturday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 12, 2007, 01:15:35 AM
Breaking News!!  SU has kicked off starting QB Richard Glick and WR Jeremy Maley from the team for not showing up for practice and informing the coaching staff. I'm not sure if its for the rest of the season or not. It looks like it's for the year.

"Our attitude as coaches is we want to coach the players who want to be here," said Barnes, whose 0-5 Hornets on Saturday night host Greensboro, the only team Shenandoah defeated last season. "We'll do the best with what we've got and try to teach them the game of football. The players who are here feel the same way. They want to be around guys who want to be part of it, too and who'll be there in tough times."By Ben Brooks
The Winchester Star

http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=1758


Although I cant fault Barnes for kicking off the players, he had to take a stand. However my worst fears look like are starting to happen. The team seems to be self imploding onto itself.  :-[
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 12, 2007, 11:55:24 AM
Hasa,

Yeah.  They did it last year.  The can do it again.  Seems like everyone in the Odac has caught up to BC or atleast closed the gap.  It is at BC so if I was a betting man i would put the spread for bc +7.


SU That team def has just quit.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2007, 01:43:30 PM
Uncle J - that sucks for the die hard fans like yourself and SU97. Just keep supporting them and don't implode as fans.....it'll be that much sweeter when things get turned around!

Hang in there!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 12, 2007, 02:01:49 PM
Here is another take as to what happend with the two players. this is from the Northern VA Daily. http://www.nvdaily.com/Newstories/290038612536783.bsp
"Oakley confirmed that his teammates were given the impression that Glick and Maley, who are close friends, had no intention of returning. Both were no-shows again Wednesday, and Thursday the university's athletic department released a statement announcing that the players had been dismissed from the team "for a violation of team rules."""

"It's not going the way that we thought it'd be going," safety Brodis Brown conceded. "Over the summer we trained hard, we conditioned hard and our expectations were high for this season. But things aren't going the way we planned.  The defections aren't the first for the Hornets. Quarterback Mark Sanford was dismissed from the team before the season, and former all-conference defensive back Justin Mosser quit the team after receiving limited playing time in a 7-6 season-opening loss to Catholic."By Craig Juer -- Daily Staff Writer

I'm pretty much speechless. :-X I just hope things don't get any worse.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 12, 2007, 02:18:27 PM
That is sad that kids keep bailing on their teammates.  It just shows the good character of those who are staying and are still working their butts off each week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 12, 2007, 02:39:16 PM
Jessie, keep the chin up. There are too many players left on that squad who want to play. If they do not have the guts to stick it out for the rest of the team, you're better off without them. Give the rest of the guys all the support you can, regardless of whether they win or loose. They deserve it and it will get better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 12, 2007, 02:44:29 PM
ProudFightingScot,

  I wouldn't just assume that the kids that left have bad character.  The gen public has no idea what happened. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 12, 2007, 02:55:20 PM
I never said they had bad character.  I said it shows the good character of those who are staying through it all.  Those who left had their reasons for leaving, but all I was doing was commending those who are sticking it out.  I could have said those who decided to stay deserve a big pat on the back, but instead I threw a bigger compliment to them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2007, 03:10:18 PM
Uncle J,

send this link to the quitters

http://d3football.com/notables/2007/09/13 (http://d3football.com/notables/2007/09/13)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 12, 2007, 04:35:32 PM
ProudScot,

I wasn't trying to get on you.  I was just trying to put myself in those kids shoes.  It would be tough to walk away from playing.  So I am sure they had some soul searching to do before they left that team. 


Roll Pride

Take advantage of the Hornets!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 12, 2007, 04:42:01 PM
mosh,

No offense taken.  I was just clearing it up b/c I can see how you came to that conclusion.  It's all good.  I just was always taught you finish something you start no matter what.  It couldn't have been an easly decision for them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 12, 2007, 05:11:38 PM
Ok it became official a little while ago. I'm driving to CNU and should get there around 11 in the morning depending on the truckers after midnight congestion on 81 and 64 and actually get to stay overnight Sat rather than drive back immediatly, woo hoo!!!!!!

That's a real tough break for SU and I'll have to give kudos to Barnes a lot of things seem a lot harder when you're searching for a win, especially dismissing starters.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2007, 07:17:58 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 12, 2007, 05:11:38 PM
Ok it became official a little while ago. I'm driving to CNU and should get there around 11 in the morning depending on the truckers after midnight congestion on 81 and 64 and actually get to stay overnight Sat rather than drive back immediatly, woo hoo!!!!!!

That's a real tough break for SU and I'll have to give kudos to Barnes a lot of things seem a lot harder when you're searching for a win, especially dismissing starters.



be safe.....drop by.....brats and burgers await!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on October 13, 2007, 08:11:13 AM
This weeks predictions:      
NCW over AU - this could be tough, AU coach likes to run alot of gimmics
FC sqeaks by MC
GC buzzes by SU
CNU tops M'ville-- MVC could really help the Bishops cause by upsetting
the Captains  today
See y'all in Danville   GO BISHOPS!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 13, 2007, 09:00:05 AM
su97/uj - i can tell you from experience that tough times are sometimes a blessing in disguise for a football team...su football will get through this and be better for it in the long run

i hope the door didn't hit those guys on the backside on their way out - whatever the reasons, quitting on your teammates at this point in the season is unacceptable in my mind...there isn't much that is so bad that you can't gut it out for another 5 weeks

mosh...you might be defending those players, but you would never have left your teammates in the middle of a season...under any circumstances...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 13, 2007, 09:22:58 AM
Quote from: narch on October 13, 2007, 09:00:05 AM
su97/uj - i can tell you from experience that tough times are sometimes a blessing in disguise for a football team...su football will get through this and be better for it in the long run

i hope the door didn't hit those guys on the backside on their way out - whatever the reasons, quitting on your teammates at this point in the season is unacceptable in my mind...there isn't much that is so bad that you can't gut it out for another 5 weeks

mosh...you might be defending those players, but you would never have left your teammates in the middle of a season...under any circumstances...

     Some say tough times builds character. Maybe.....but more so, it reveals character, or lack there of.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 13, 2007, 10:13:01 AM
Good Luck Today! Go Fightin Scots!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 13, 2007, 10:28:39 AM
Narch,

Your right I wouldnt be able to do what they did.  Does that make me a good person..NAH!  If they left because of the record then I wouldnt be able to ever talk to them again if i was a former teamate.  I was simply saying that we dont know the full story and therefore shouldnt be making assumptions about the character etc..,

Roll pride,
Kick them when they are down (told you i wasnt a good person)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 13, 2007, 11:15:41 AM
Itttttttttsssssssssssss POMOCO TIME  :o :o. Come on Captains lets get it done today. We will be watching!!!!

Captains 35 Mville 17.

I am sorry the guys are quitters....Yea Mosh we don't know the whole story but one kid left after a 7-6 loss and the other kids were stated as being no shows to practice. If they left for any other reason the article would have probably read "so and so left the team for personal reason's" Im sure SU wouldn't try to slander a young mans name incorrectly. Bottom line don't try to transfer to CNU because I KNOW COACH K HATES QUITTERS. HE WOULD HAVE RESPECT FOR YOU IF YOU FINISHIED THE SEASON OUT AND DECIDED NOT TO RETURN. BUT IF YOU TURNED YOUR EQUIPMENT IN EARLY CONSIDER YOURSELF DEAD IN HIS EYES.

The whole SU team is dealing with the losses but with actions like those I see why they are losing game after game. And like I posted after the SU CNU game a lot of the playes did not have emotion and Im sure those players were giving off negative energy. Maybe SU can rebound now that they are rid of some of that cancer

CCCCCCCCCCNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 4LIFE
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 13, 2007, 01:07:03 PM
3-0 Maryville!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 13, 2007, 01:14:59 PM
7-3 CNU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 13, 2007, 01:34:25 PM
13-3 Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 13, 2007, 01:34:52 PM
13-3 CNU my mistake :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 13, 2007, 01:42:52 PM
13-10 CNU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 13, 2007, 01:51:24 PM
13-13 All Tied up between CNU and Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 13, 2007, 02:08:21 PM
NCWC1 14 -Averett 0   3 min left in 1st half
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 13, 2007, 02:21:58 PM
At the half  NCWC 21 - Averett 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 13, 2007, 02:31:03 PM
20-13 CNU at half.  They blocked a punt with 50 seconds in the half and recovered at the 10 that lead to the last score errrrr.... :-X
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 13, 2007, 02:39:04 PM
Ferrum up 7-0

Methodist has the ball first and goal.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 13, 2007, 02:53:08 PM
NCWC 35- Averett 7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 13, 2007, 02:55:45 PM
27-13 CNU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 13, 2007, 03:17:30 PM
Methodist tries a fake FG near the very end of the half and is stopped. A penalty gives MU a second chance, though over the radio, it sounds confusing. It seemed like the penalty was against MU, so they do get to rekick but farther back. Not sure why Ferrum didn't accept the penalty. Maybe it wasn't fourth down or something.

Anyway, the retry falls short, and time expires for the half.

FC up 14-7.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 13, 2007, 03:39:32 PM
2:55  remaining in game ...NCWC 42 - Averett 7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 13, 2007, 03:44:52 PM
27-13 Final CNU over Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 13, 2007, 03:53:11 PM
Final .... NCWC 49- Averett 7 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 13, 2007, 04:39:20 PM
big 4th down for the monarchs, down 21-7 at the fc 9...1st and goal mu from the 5...parks fumbles, but mu retains the ball...under 4  minutes inside the 5...mcguire loses a yard...3rd and goal, mu timeout with 3:07 left...hill stopped short, but fc gets a late hit call giving the monarchs a 1st down and goal - 2nd and goal after mcguire is stopped short...mu timeout 2:52...seems like you would have a couple of plays called in the previous huddle and save that timeout...i like a little bootleg here...parks stopped short on a keeper...3rd and goal...mcguire FINALLY scores...2:17 left - i think they've got to go w/ an onside kick - mirales misses the xp...need a td and 2 pt conversion to force ot - fc gets the onside kick and will probably run the clock out - sounds like mu was game today, but shot themselves in the foot with penalties and poor specials...monarch defense holds, but fc pins them at the 4 with :55 left...long field for the tying td - parks completes a 24 yard pass, but hopkins gets stripped after the catch - fc wins...the fc announcer says "the panthers executed that play perfectly letting him catch the ball and then stripping it"...funny
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 13, 2007, 05:47:54 PM
Another sloppy home win for the Captains. Way to many turnovers on offense, a few missed tackles, and not enough pressure on the qb at times. All in all another Captain win so thats the most important thing. Keep taking things 1 game at a time and the guys should be fine.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 13, 2007, 06:57:13 PM
CNU 54. As a former coach we used to say "a W is a W".

I'll buy that for a dollar
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2007, 07:41:29 PM
Shenandoah breaks out to a 21-0 lead in the first quarter!

Actually 14-0! (http://www.su.edu/athletics/fb/current/xlive.htm)

The scoreboard on the front page received the wrong information.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2007, 08:24:44 PM
SU leads 28-0!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on October 13, 2007, 08:26:02 PM
Box score from Methodist game is confusing. It shows this at the end of teh 1st half:

M 3-3  F33   Timeout Methodist, clock 00:27.
M 3-3  F33   PARKS,Brandon pass complete to HOPKINS,Brian for 4 yards to the FC29, 1ST                DOWN MU (GOODE, Maureik).
M 1-10 F29   1st and 10.
M 1-10 F29   PARKS,Brandon pass incomplete to HOPKINS,Brian.
M 2-10 F29   PARKS,Brandon pass incomplete to MULARSKI,J. (BROWN, Zack).
M 3-10 F29   MULARSKI,J. sacked for loss of 3 yards to the FC32 (ROBINSON, Osric),
              PENALTY MU delay of game 7 yards to the FC36, NO PLAY.
M 3-17 F36   Timeout Ferrum, clock 00:01.
M 3-17 F36   MIRALLES,Mario field goal attempt from 53 MISSED - short, spot at MU37,               clock 00:00.

Was the delay before the sack?  If not how could there have even been enough time left after the sack to get a delay?  Why would Ferrum call timeout with only 1 sec left?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 13, 2007, 09:07:20 PM
Awful.

SU you were suppose to quit!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2007, 09:11:37 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 13, 2007, 09:07:20 PM
Awful.

SU you were suppose to quit!

maybe the guys that quit had actualy quit on the field a long time ago...or as we say in the business world...they checked out mentally a long time ago.....with them gone, he guys that want to win are now playing!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2007, 09:58:55 PM
Final -- SU 33 Greensboro 7!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 13, 2007, 10:04:31 PM
That is amazing... Great job SU!!  Congrads!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2007, 10:16:11 PM
Congrats SU...Uncle J and SU97 are smiling tonight!!


BatteredBard...very nice meeting you today. I'm glad you were able to swing by the tailgate. That must be a long drive (how many hours is it?). Get some rest tonight!

Oh...I read the preview for today's game...nicely done. I look forward to reading the other stories you left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 13, 2007, 10:39:14 PM
Congrats to SU.!. maybe this weeks episode had a positive effect after all. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on October 14, 2007, 01:09:53 AM
WOW!!!! SU scored 33 points. NCWC better get ready for that Wing-T.
Blew my prediction. Well, the Bishops had a good game against AU today,but
the O-Line is still not as crisp as it should be. Still too many turnovers for
a championship team. I felt coach left the starters in too long. Who am I ?
JUST A FAN!! GO BISHOPS!!!! The Blue & Gold can't look past SU . CNU in
2weeks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 14, 2007, 10:27:42 AM
I took the idea from Matt on the ODAC board. Here are some comments with the sole purpose of generating discussion.

CNU (4-2, 3-0) – CNU is starting to roll, as I predicted in the pre-season newspaper article. (Side note...if I remember correctly I predicted back in August CNU would beat MC 27-13 – lucky me!!). CNU has 3 road games remaining (MU, AU, FC) and the lone home game is against NCW. Although CNU is 20-1 in home conference games, with a 20 game winning streak, the Bishops have the type of offense that has given CNU a tough time earlier in the year. Although NCW is nowhere near the caliber of UMHB. CNU could run the table and finish 7-0 in the conference. However, in the past we've seen a "how'd that happen" type game. 5-2 is not out of the question if they don't stay focused.

NCW (4-2, 3-0) – Similar to CNU,  tough non conference games have helped prepare for the much weaker conference schedule. Home games remaining are against SU and FC. SU put up unexpected points yesterday. FC is raising some eyebrows. They could cause some trouble before the season is over. NCW road games are CNU and GC. As with CNU, NCW could run the table or go as low as 5-2.

FC (4-3, 3-1) – an OT loss to MC is the only conference blemish. A bye week this week is going to help prepare for the final 3 game stretch. A home game against a poor GC team is followed by a road trip to NCW and a season finale at home vs CNU. A 4-3 record is probable, but don't count them out. 5-2 isn't out of the question, although 6-1 probably isn't going to happen. Everyone is talking about the NCW/CNU game in 2 weeks – perhaps the FC/MC and FC/CNU games will be just as important!

Maryville (5-2, 2-2) – Most likely, yesterday's loss puts them out of contention for the title. But maybe not. The top 4 teams (CNU, NCW, FC and MC) are packed together. Anything can happen. MC has a week off. They should come back and win the rest against the weaker part of the conference (MU, SU, and AU). MU has the best chance of coming away with a win. MC should finish 5-2, although 4-3 is a possibility if they lose focus for a game.

Methodist (1-5, 1-2) – Only win was against lowly AU. Games remaining are at home vs CNU, where MU won the last meeting, at MC, at GC and home vs SU. This part of the conference is hard to figure out. Especially given the issues at SU and what they did yesterday. MU should win more than 1 conference game, and probably will. I predict they finish 3-4 with a 2 game win streak to compete the season.

Shenandoah (1-5, 1-2) – If I had written this Friday night, I would have had these guys last in the write-up. Things are too unpredictable. However, a taste of victory and changes made this past week, who knows? They could finish 3-4, but most likely will be 2-5 with a win over AU and losses to MC, NCW, and MU.

Greensboro (1-5, 0-3)– Not sure what to think after last night. They will lose the final 3 games (FC, MU, NCW). It's the next game at AU that is hard to predict. They end up either 1-6 or 0-7.

Averett (0-6, 0-3) – WOW! I thought they were much better than this, even with all the lost players. GC, SU, CNU, and MC complete the schedule. On paper, they could win 2 of the 4 remaining games. But, AU has not been playing on paper this year. Anywhere from 2-5 to 0-7 is likely.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 14, 2007, 10:37:21 AM
Narch...something to ponder.....

My pre-season predictions have been very close with the exception of the Salisbury game. I predicted CNU to beat Rowan, lose by almost the margin they did to UMHB, beat SU 38-0 (final was 42-0), beat GC by 34 (we won by 31), and I had the Maryville game either exactly right at 27-13 or I might have predicted it 27-14 (can't remember).

Either way, my predictions are scary good. My prediction in August for this week against you guys.....CNU wins 14-13.....with stopping Mike Hill being the key to the CNU win. so, tell everyone it'll be a great game, a nail biter, and they should all go!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 14, 2007, 10:39:29 AM
Great Post 85. I thought Maryville gave themselves a chance to do the unthinkable yesterday from the way it sounded. CNU is a tough team to beat, even tougher to beat at home. Maryville had their shots in the second half and just could not get CNU's defense to break. Proud to see Maryville be competitive in a game that had serious conference ramifications. I believe they will get back to work, and attempt to finish the season strong with hopefully an 8-2 record.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 14, 2007, 10:43:04 AM
Quote from: Highlander on October 14, 2007, 10:39:29 AM
Great Post 85. I thought Maryville gave themselves a chance to do the unthinkable yesterday from the way it sounded. CNU is a tough team to beat, even tougher to beat at home. Maryville had their shots in the second half and just could not get CNU's defense to break. Proud to see Maryville be competitive in a game that had serious conference ramifications. I believe they will get back to work, and attempt to finish the season strong with hopefully an 8-2 record.

If I remember correctly (correct me if I am wrong) your QB is a sophomore? He showed poise, didn't panic. Even when knocked out of the game for a play, he came back in. He did well against a tough team in a tough place. And if he is a SO, then it was his first trip to POMOCO - even more impressive. His stats weren't fantastic, but he played a nice game. He seems comfortable, in control, and smart.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 14, 2007, 10:53:56 AM
85, Maryville's QB is just a Soph who was making just his seventh career start. I believe he has a way of managing the game. Also, does a good job of not doing things that get you beat. I am extremely proud of the way Maryville's program has been progressing over the last few years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 14, 2007, 11:26:29 AM
I really liked your team breakdown post 85.  Yesterday's game was a great game MVC had their chances in the second half, but the most important thing I took from this game is they kept it competitive the whole game in a big game situation.  They have had a few games with conference implecations over the past few years and they were either beat pretty badly or were playing catch up from way behind and made the score look closer in the end.   This game wasn't the case.  They played tough the entire game and held nothing back.  Coach Ierulli had the team ready to play.  Your one possible trap game you mentioned, Methodist, I don't think it will happen for one reason.  It is their homecoming game and they will be wanting to put a good showing on.  Since Wall is a SO, it will be interesting to see how far he progresses in the years to come.  Go Scots!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 14, 2007, 11:40:23 AM
Where is PSBBG when you need 'em?   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 14, 2007, 11:48:06 AM
He took his ball and went home... sniff sniff...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 14, 2007, 11:50:08 AM
I had to wipe the dust off the "w" key on my laptop to type this... It's been a year - but finally a WIN for the hornets!

Not in last place...  feeling good. 8)

Offense finally came alive, very surprised after the week SU has had leading up...  Good for the kids who haven't quit.  I realize that one win against a fellow 1-5 team isn't anything to start up "championship" talk, but hey, when you haven't seen a win in 10 games...   Go Hornets!

Great...  NCWC next week.   :(

Basketball starts tomorrow!  FINALLY!   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 14, 2007, 12:26:34 PM
Congrats to SU.

Damn, We need a W now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 14, 2007, 02:56:11 PM
They couldn't hold the Hornets down forever SU.  Good to see them bounce back after the tough week the team had.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 15, 2007, 11:09:57 AM
Congrats to NCWC. There for a quarter and 1/2 I thought Averett may make a game out of it. But then......................hell you know the story line here...........

Very impressed with NCWC's O & D line. Big and strong and they bring the lumber every play. Nr. 22 (running back) has a great sense for where the hole is going to be and where it isn't going to be. Only weakness I saw for NCWC was the QB and RB don't protect the ball as well as they should. They both are trying to make something happen and do a lot twisting and turning with the ball being carried like a loaf of bread. Making it very easy to knock out.

In my humble opinion NCWC may just be the top dog in the end. Haven't seen CNU play yet this year, but they could be in trouble against both NCWC and Ferrum. Both teams are stong and fast.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 15, 2007, 11:17:42 AM
For all the NCWC fans that are on this board and were at the Averett game.

KEEP BLOWING THOSE HORNS AND RINGING THOSE BELLS. THAT'S WHAT FOOTBALL IS ALL ABOUT; CHEERING YOUR TEAM AND MAKING NOISE. Someone was out of line Saturday. It may be an NCAA rule about noise makers but it wasn't handled right. I thought my wife was going to get arrested for ringing a damn cow bell that was purhased from Averett's bookstore with Averett printed on it.

I don't understand what is wrong with the folks that make the rules but somewhere down the line people need to get back to basic's, common sense and enjoy good old fashing football. Next thing they will try to tell you is you have to sit perfectly still in your seat, no talking and raise your hand to go to the damn bathroom or get a drink.

None of these folks have been to a D1 game lately..............As long as everyone is having fun and no one is trying to be unsportsman about it what in the hell is a $3.00 air horn from WalMart or a 3 inch cow bell going to hurt. Especially after a score. I am waiting for them to tell Navy and Army they can't shoot off their cannons anymore.

Keep blowing those horns and ringing the bells.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 15, 2007, 11:26:44 AM
     Wonder if perhaps a statement was made by SU Sat?  ??? Congrats!!

     Also, congrats to the Fighting Scots. I have never been big on moral victories but sounds like this might be an exception. You went into a very tough environment and gave a very good football team all they could handle. Hopefully, this is a sign that the Scots are ready to establish themselves as a top tier team in the USAC. Now just finish up 8 and 2 and let the rest of the chips fall where they may.  8)

     As for Methodist being a trap game....I don't think so. After what happened to the Scots two years ago against the Monarchs for HC, it damn well better not be.  :o  If it does, we senior citizen Fighting Scots may have to storm the field, cut down some trees, or something!!  :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 15, 2007, 11:32:51 AM
Also, if the Scots do run the table the rest of the way and go 8-2, they will be only the 5th team in school history to win 8 games.  That would be a MAJOR accomplishment.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 15, 2007, 11:52:27 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 15, 2007, 11:09:57 AM
Congrats to NCWC. There for a quarter and 1/2 I thought Averett may make a game out of it. But then......................hell you know the story line here...........

Very impressed with NCWC's O & D line. Big and strong and they bring the lumber every play. Nr. 22 (running back) has a great sense for where the hole is going to be and where it isn't going to be. Only weakness I saw for NCWC was the QB and RB don't protect the ball as well as they should. They both are trying to make something happen and do a lot twisting and turning with the ball being carried like a loaf of bread. Making it very easy to knock out.

In my humble opinion NCWC may just be the top dog in the end. Haven't seen CNU play yet this year, but they could be in trouble against both NCWC and Ferrum. Both teams are stong and fast.



Nr 22 is from right here in Newport News!!

Gotta take care of this week or the NCW/CNU game will be meaningless. CNU lost the last time we went to Methodist.....it gives me a funny tingle in my stomach thinking about it. MU knows they can beat CNU because they've done it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 15, 2007, 12:09:36 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 15, 2007, 11:52:27 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 15, 2007, 11:09:57 AM
Congrats to NCWC. There for a quarter and 1/2 I thought Averett may make a game out of it. But then......................hell you know the story line here...........

Very impressed with NCWC's O & D line. Big and strong and they bring the lumber every play. Nr. 22 (running back) has a great sense for where the hole is going to be and where it isn't going to be. Only weakness I saw for NCWC was the QB and RB don't protect the ball as well as they should. They both are trying to make something happen and do a lot twisting and turning with the ball being carried like a loaf of bread. Making it very easy to knock out.

In my humble opinion NCWC may just be the top dog in the end. Haven't seen CNU play yet this year, but they could be in trouble against both NCWC and Ferrum. Both teams are stong and fast.



Nr 22 is from right here in Newport News!!

Gotta take care of this week or the NCW/CNU game will be meaningless. CNU lost the last time we went to Methodist.....it gives me a funny tingle in my stomach thinking about it. MU knows they can beat CNU because they've done it!

Good luck this week 85. Methodist has a better team than their record indicates. If they can ever put all cyclinders in operation at one time, they will be one tough team to contend with (especially at home).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 15, 2007, 12:21:47 PM
I don't think CNU will have any trouble with them this week.  I just hope they aren't looking ahead to the NCWC game and get bitten by Meth.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 15, 2007, 04:02:33 PM
Hey Narch (wherever you are)

I was mistaken....I had it 17-14 CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 15, 2007, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 15, 2007, 11:26:44 AM
     Wonder if perhaps a statement was made by SU Sat?  ??? Congrats!!

Let's not get crazy here...  I think we are still trying to put together some fragments, maybe a noun or two.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 15, 2007, 09:00:47 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 15, 2007, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 15, 2007, 11:26:44 AM
     Wonder if perhaps a statement was made by SU Sat?  ??? Congrats!!

Let's not get crazy here...  I think we are still trying to put together some fragments, maybe a noun or two.

     Don't worry SU...not getting crazy. Just thinking that perhaps the adversity of the last week has brought the remaining team members together. Let's hope so anyway. Except when they play Maryville!!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 15, 2007, 09:24:46 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 15, 2007, 04:02:33 PM
Hey Narch (wherever you are)

I was mistaken....I had it 17-14 CNU.
as a fan of good football, i'll take that...although i'd prefer to see mu 17- cnu 14 (or really mu one more than cnu in any denomination :))
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 15, 2007, 09:29:44 PM
Cnu plus four scores.

Greensboro beats Averett 2-0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 15, 2007, 10:07:35 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 15, 2007, 09:29:44 PM
Cnu plus four scores.

Greensboro beats Averett 2-0

Now that's bad Mosh

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 15, 2007, 11:11:25 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 15, 2007, 09:29:44 PM


Greensboro beats Averett 2-0

Penalty Kicks or a Safety?  :D :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 16, 2007, 01:04:36 AM
CNU85, Good to put a face with somebody from the board. And thanks for the water. By the time I gave in and had a beer about hour 35 (8pm) it only took three and I was done as soon as UK upset LSU. I made mental notes on some of the fund raising ideas in place and now concede facility wise (fan and team) CNU tops the list, though the wooded areas for tailgating at MC I think still have an edge of their own.

MC qb (Wall) didn't get knocked from game. It was a scheme to get the running qb (Hughes) in with the option package. I would guess MU, AU and SU will be ready for it but still have to stop it.

First time Ive double dutied and been the color guy on the radio broadcast as well this season. Debaby kept calling Christopher Newport Carson-Newman (D2, Jefferson City, tenn.) in excited moments which had several of the CNU staff rolling with me.

It was a great game. But having now seen both I have to say that Im giving the edge to NCW to break the streak at 20. Ginn must have spent all summer with turtle wax because Townsend is so much more polished and smooth than he was last year that it makes the whole team harder to defend.

Lastly, kudos to Nick jensen - I don't know if the lateral to garrett Meyer was forward or not but very alert to grab the losse ball on the PAT block and great run and decison making on the return. I want a copy of the game tape just to see that again. At another level we'd still be seeing it on sportscenter.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 16, 2007, 01:06:20 AM
Here's the Daily Times link

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071015/SPORTS0104/71015004 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071015/SPORTS0104/71015004)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 16, 2007, 01:07:13 AM
Go ahead and ding away at the karma boys.... Private vs. Public huh I heard that there are a few good players from NCW they couldn't get into CNU for various reasons. HHHHHHmmmmmmmmmm who has the edge now????? Sometimes people forget there are a lot of good college programs in VA. Its a lot of talent in the tidewater area but the talent gets spread over various schools. Hell we got 2 pretty good 1aa schools right up the road from us and not to mention JMU won a NC a couple years ago. Geeezzzzzz and ODU is adding a team.  CNU has to jump thru a lot of hoops  to get talented players in year in and year out. So don't speculate that the grass is a lot greener over here, WE JUST DEFEND OURS BETTER. :o ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 16, 2007, 01:15:36 AM
Damn I wish I could play again.... All this talk about NCW is ticking me off.... NCW better worry about who they play on Sat... All this board talk may make them fall flat on their face....Ill be honest with you Batteredbard CNU has played poor the last 2 times at Pomoco and still won big....We will focus on MC right now but we will SHOW THE BISHOPS IN DUE TIME WHY POMOCO WILL GIVE THEM A "PEACE OF MIND" "OF COURSE".;D (dont worry you have to be from the Penisula to get it)

Captains MC is on the clock and payback is a  ;).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 16, 2007, 01:23:42 AM
Finest54,
I think that CNU and NCW both have several players that are very talented. Most everyone has said that the road to the top of the conference still runs through CNU. Most fans would love to have the opportunity to relish in the fact that everyone puts a large bulls- eye on their respective team. That just means that your team has what everyone else wants. CNU raised the "bar" for every other team in the conference. IMHO, this has caused there to be a increase in parity in the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on October 16, 2007, 07:37:04 AM
WOW, theres alot of animosity on here now. I think it is all stemming from there only going to be one conference champion this year. I dont see CNU messing up this year anymore and losing that one game that ties them with anyone. I think it will be NCWC VS. CNU for the battle of conference champion.
       Methodist played a tight game vs Ferrum on saturday, although i wish the turnout was different, it was still a good game. Methodist is still young, and learning as the year goes. That offensive line looks like it is gelling together really close which will cause problems in the future for many teams.
     Congrats to SU, wow where did that come from. Havent scored that many points all season, and then break out with that many, great job. I think that shows us just how much trouble GC has defending the run. Great job!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 16, 2007, 08:57:33 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 16, 2007, 01:15:36 AM
Damn I wish I could play again.... All this talk about NCW is ticking me off.... NCW better worry about who they play on Sat... All this board talk may make them fall flat on their face....Ill be honest with you Batteredbard CNU has played poor the last 2 times at Pomoco and still won big....We will focus on MC right now but we will SHOW THE BISHOPS IN DUE TIME WHY POMOCO WILL GIVE THEM A "PEACE OF MIND" "OF COURSE".;D (dont worry you have to be from the Penisula to get it)

Captains MC is on the clock and payback is a  ;).
Finest 54........If you will notice, all this talk you refer to is not coming from the the only three NCWC supporters I see on this board, could be that means they are not looking ahead......... :) I think Coach Ginn would prefer they play each game one at the time....and I think that is the way the supporters are looking at it... the truth will be in the pudding at the end of the season, which ever way it falls. :) By the way, getting in might not be so difficult, but after attending NCWC... staying in is!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 16, 2007, 12:36:51 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 16, 2007, 01:04:36 AM
MC qb (Wall) didn't get knocked from game. It was a scheme to get the running qb (Hughes) in with the option package. I would guess MU, AU and SU will be ready for it but still have to stop it.


Then it was a good scheme and perfectly timed...cuz he went out right after getting hammered on a play...it had me fooled, big time.....Tony Award for the QB!!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2007, 12:44:12 PM
I liked the change of pace Hughes brought to the game.  I don't think CNU was really ready for it.  It also did give Wall a chance to collect himself after the big hit.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 16, 2007, 02:01:43 PM
A long over due congratulations to the Hornets team for its win last Saturday night over GC. I try not to get on the computer on Sunday's and yesterday was very busy for me. But nice job to the team. It was a total team win. The special teams were fantastic, Blocking  2 punts returning one for a TD and another to the 1 yard line. Defense had 3 fumbles picked up and 1 INT. Last week could had easily gone another way after all the problems the team had to over come. I was very happy to see how the team was 100% behind new QB Lunsford. After his rushing TD all the players on the sideline were chanting " VERN, VERN, VERN, VERN!" Its been along time from the last SU win. It feels good to chat about a W once again. This week will not be a easy one but perhaps with some luck and hard work the Hornets can make a game out of it against NCW. This could easily be a trap game for NCW as GC was for SU in 2004. Congratulations to Dionte Beatty for grabbing USAC's defensive player of the week award. He had 11 tackles. Also congratulations to Robert Hembrick for getting USAC's special teams player of the week. He had two blocked punts. GO HORNETS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 16, 2007, 03:22:56 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2007, 12:44:12 PM
I liked the change of pace Hughes brought to the game.  I don't think CNU was really ready for it.  It also did give Wall a chance to collect himself after the big hit.

ummm......I'll have to respectfully disagree. 4 carries for 16 yards, no passing stats, doesn't return kicks....not sure with a total of 16 yards anyone could come to the conclusion that CNU wasn't ready for it. I still think Wall going out was not planned...he was hit pretty hard. He just needed a blow and Hughes stepped in for a play....I wouldn't call one emergency snap at QB and 16 total yards of offense anything in which one could read much into it calling it a part of a plan, or strategy, or what a different aspect he brought to the game. Anyway, it's just my opinion - which doesn't mean much.

Wall only needed the one play off and he was right back in after the hit. He's tough and like I said before composed....and only a SO. With the improvements MC has made over the past few years, I'm worried already about next year's game @ MC!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2007, 03:37:24 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 16, 2007, 03:22:56 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2007, 12:44:12 PM
I liked the change of pace Hughes brought to the game.  I don't think CNU was really ready for it.  It also did give Wall a chance to collect himself after the big hit.

ummm......I'll have to respectfully disagree. 4 carries for 16 yards, no passing stats, doesn't return kicks....not sure with a total of 16 yards anyone could come to the conclusion that CNU wasn't ready for it. I still think Wall going out was not planned...he was hit pretty hard. He just needed a blow and Hughes stepped in for a play....I wouldn't call one emergency snap at QB and 16 total yards of offense anything in which one could read much into it calling it a part of a plan, or strategy, or what a different aspect he brought to the game. Anyway, it's just my opinion - which doesn't mean much.

Wall only needed the one play off and he was right back in after the hit. He's tough and like I said before composed....and only a SO. With the improvements MC has made over the past few years, I'm worried already about next year's game @ MC!!

Maybe he was thrown in there b/c of the hit (I thought I read somewhere they planned on putting him in at some point as a change of pace), but that said it was a change that CNU had to adjust to.  He is more of an option QB and not a passer, so I didn't expect to see any passing from him anyway.  I wouldn't say MVC should change QB's like Florida did last year, but maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a change of pace in the game every once in a while to keep the Defense on their toes.  In any case, Wall is MVC's man so as long as he is healthy he will be good to go.  And 85 you are right, he does seem very composed for only starting 7 games now and he will be here 2 more years after this one.  He should be a good one.  Next year should be a good one for Maryville b/c we still are relatively young and with another year of experience under our belt I hope we can take the next step as a program.  If we can start winning those big games with conference implacations watch out... :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2007, 04:36:35 PM
One other thing I want to comment on is the some of the special team play of the Scots.  They did have one miscue on the blocked put, but the coaching staff has to be commended on the guts it took to call a fake punt on their own 11 as well as the onside kick.  They obviously saw some flaws in the CNU kickoff/punt return teams that they took advantage of.  They were big momentum shifters.  Also, it was a heads up play on their field goal block team to try to run it back, which according to the announcers was a bad call on the forward lateral call.  If it was the correct call or not it is worth mentioning.  GO SCOTS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 16, 2007, 04:38:04 PM
Kickerdad,

I would take a 2-0.  I did play DEFENSE!

I really think Gboro is due to break out though on offense.

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 16, 2007, 04:51:15 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2007, 04:36:35 PM
One other thing I want to comment on is the some of the special team play of the Scots.  They did have one miscue on the blocked put, but the coaching staff has to be commended on the guts it took to call a fake punt on their own 11 as well as the onside kick.  They obviously saw some flaws in the CNU kickoff/punt return teams that they took advantage of.  They were big momentum shifters.  Also, it was a heads up play on their field goal block team to try to run it back, which according to the announcers was a bad call on the forward lateral call.  If it was the correct call or not it is worth mentioning.  GO SCOTS!!!

yes, the special teams were very aggressive and kept the Scots in the game. I was so mad at the fake punt....from a Scots standpoint, it was "beautiful". Don't listen to your homey radio announcers....that lateral on the blocked PAT was a good 4 yards (probably even more than that) in front....it was so blatant, everyone I was around saw it right away and the flag came out immediately. It wasn't even close...and I know for a fact the media at POMOCO all have a good vantage point. I guess that's why those guys call radio at the D3 level!!  :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2007, 05:00:05 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 16, 2007, 04:51:15 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2007, 04:36:35 PM
One other thing I want to comment on is the some of the special team play of the Scots.  They did have one miscue on the blocked put, but the coaching staff has to be commended on the guts it took to call a fake punt on their own 11 as well as the onside kick.  They obviously saw some flaws in the CNU kickoff/punt return teams that they took advantage of.  They were big momentum shifters.  Also, it was a heads up play on their field goal block team to try to run it back, which according to the announcers was a bad call on the forward lateral call.  If it was the correct call or not it is worth mentioning.  GO SCOTS!!!

yes, the special teams were very aggressive and kept the Scots in the game. I was so mad at the fake punt....from a Scots standpoint, it was "beautiful". Don't listen to your homey radio announcers....that lateral on the blocked PAT was a good 4 yards (probably even more than that) in front....it was so blatant, everyone I was around saw it right away and the flag came out immediately. It wasn't even close...and I know for a fact the media at POMOCO all have a good vantage point. I guess that's why those guys call radio at the D3 level!!  :D :D

It is what I heard so the is what I had to go off of.  In any case it was a heads up play.  Maryville is pretty good at running the fake punts.  I believe they have only missed 1 since Coach Ierulli has gotten there and they run quite a few each year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 16, 2007, 05:02:54 PM
which means it is on game film and CNU should have been ready for it!! Maybe he mixed it up a little. Maybe he went left all season long and  this time went right. Wither way, you could tell MC is well coached. 8-2 looks like a real possibility this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 16, 2007, 05:21:20 PM
Second look it was much clearer that it was forward lateral. From visiting radio we were above looking around the pillar at it. Pretty evident on tape so I'll concede it was illegal but beautiful. ;D

I believe MC (Methodist is MU now and Murvul can reclaim MC as its rightful acronym hopefully) was waiting for the 10-man front that the captains used to block the punt the week before. Wish they'd tried it the first time that formation came out at the end of the second qtr and instead got it blocked.

Hughes came in twice, once for one play and once for three plays - all runs. I'm not sure which came after the big hit. Wall got knocked around so much in the last three quarters it's hard to classify the degrees of big hits he endured. ;)

I do give the edge to NCW on atheltics for the 27th. That's not saying that I don't believe Kelchner and crew can't come up with a winning scheme, just that I give NCW an edge right now. I always reserve the right to modify as of game week. 8)

The Scots are off this week and after today so am I !!!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 16, 2007, 05:25:02 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 16, 2007, 04:38:04 PM
Kickerdad,

I would take a 2-0.  I did play DEFENSE!

I really think Gboro is due to break out though on offense.

Roll Pride!

Mosh,

Just messing with you man. I went both ways and know exactly how you feel. I think both teams are in desperate need of a win somehow, somewhere. Just praying the same thing doesn't happen with Averett that happened with SU.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 16, 2007, 05:32:38 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 16, 2007, 05:21:20 PM
Second look it was much clearer that it was forward lateral. From visiting radio we were above looking around the pillar at it. Pretty evident on tape so I'll concede it was illegal but beautiful. ;D

I believe MC (Methodist is MU now and Murvul can reclaim MC as its rightful acronym hopefully) was waiting for the 10-man front that the captains used to block the punt the week before. Wish they'd tried it the first time that formation came out at the end of the second qtr and instead got it blocked.

Hughes came in twice, once for one play and once for three plays - all runs. I'm not sure which came after the big hit. Wall got knocked around so much in the last three quarters it's hard to classify the degrees of big hits he endured. ;)

I do give the edge to NCW on atheltics for the 27th. That's not saying that I don't believe Kelchner and crew can't come up with a winning scheme, just that I give NCW an edge right now. I always reserve the right to modify as of game week. 8)

The Scots are off this week and after today so am I !!!!



Enjoy the time off. I'm sure the trip to NN is still having an effect on you. Doing anything fun or just sitting at home listening to Thin Lizzy?  :D

The play that Wall got hit hard...he only came out for one play. Then he came right back in as if nothing happened. The other 3 plays I don't think had anything to do with being hit - probably the coach trying to throw CNU off a little.

The fake punt, CNU had stacked the left side of the O-line, trying for the block, MC ran to the right. I was ticked, so it must have been a good play!  :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2007, 05:49:32 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 16, 2007, 05:21:20 PM
Second look it was much clearer that it was forward lateral. From visiting radio we were above looking around the pillar at it. Pretty evident on tape so I'll concede it was illegal but beautiful. ;D

I believe MC (Methodist is MU now and Murvul can reclaim MC as its rightful acronym hopefully) was waiting for the 10-man front that the captains used to block the punt the week before. Wish they'd tried it the first time that formation came out at the end of the second qtr and instead got it blocked.

Hughes came in twice, once for one play and once for three plays - all runs. I'm not sure which came after the big hit. Wall got knocked around so much in the last three quarters it's hard to classify the degrees of big hits he endured. ;)

I do give the edge to NCW on atheltics for the 27th. That's not saying that I don't believe Kelchner and crew can't come up with a winning scheme, just that I give NCW an edge right now. I always reserve the right to modify as of game week. 8)

The Scots are off this week and after today so am I !!!!



Well deserved time off... enjoy!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Simba on October 16, 2007, 09:29:59 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/index
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 17, 2007, 12:18:45 AM
Quote from: Old Ref on October 16, 2007, 08:57:33 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 16, 2007, 01:15:36 AM
Damn I wish I could play again.... All this talk about NCW is ticking me off.... NCW better worry about who they play on Sat... All this board talk may make them fall flat on their face....Ill be honest with you Batteredbard CNU has played poor the last 2 times at Pomoco and still won big....We will focus on MC right now but we will SHOW THE BISHOPS IN DUE TIME WHY POMOCO WILL GIVE THEM A "PEACE OF MIND" "OF COURSE".;D (dont worry you have to be from the Penisula to get it)

Captains MC is on the clock and payback is a  ;).
Finest 54........If you will notice, all this talk you refer to is not coming from the the only three NCWC supporters I see on this board, could be that means they are not looking ahead......... :) I think Coach Ginn would prefer they play each game one at the time....and I think that is the way the supporters are looking at it... the truth will be in the pudding at the end of the season, which ever way it falls. :) By the way, getting in might not be so difficult, but after attending NCWC... staying in is!!

I did notice I never said I was calling out NCW or their coach. Thats why I said all this talk about NCW refering to the chatter coming from NCW fans. Besides come on ref, I played the game what good coach looks ahead? I made no refrence to NCW coaching staff my comments where directed to NCW fans. And as far as speaking on NCW as a school I can't speak on their academics because I never attended the school. But facts are facts, CNU tried to get a few of NCW studs in but could not for various reason. I just get tired of this private vs public debate when people try to discredit the success our program has had over the past years. I HAVE LOST TO PLENTY OF PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THE PLAYOFFS AND THEY NEVER THOUGHT THE LITTLE LOTTERY SUPPORTED PUBLIC SCHOOL HAD AN ADVANTAGE OVER THEM, THEY JUST STRAPPED IT ON AND PLAYED. 

And to whom ever dinged my karma thanks.  ;D ;D ;D.

And MC fan no animosity over here Im just mad I can't be there for the CNU-NCW game. A certain young lady decided to throw our house warming on the freaking 27th.  :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 17, 2007, 12:24:55 AM
Finest,
Remember that with success comes the fact that everyone wants to be where you (CNU) have been able to climb as a team. Like I stated yesterday, everyone just wants to be able to attain the success that CNU has been able to achieve. IMHO, that just makes the conference as a whole better, and maybe just maybe will lead to bigger and better things for everyone.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 17, 2007, 02:41:25 AM
Here is a update from the SU paper on a possible ODAC move.
http://www.su.edu/pr/publications/sun/Oct17.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 17, 2007, 08:24:51 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 17, 2007, 12:18:45 AM
Quote from: Old Ref on October 16, 2007, 08:57:33 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 16, 2007, 01:15:36 AM
Damn I wish I could play again.... All this talk about NCW is ticking me off.... NCW better worry about who they play on Sat... All this board talk may make them fall flat on their face....Ill be honest with you Batteredbard CNU has played poor the last 2 times at Pomoco and still won big....We will focus on MC right now but we will SHOW THE BISHOPS IN DUE TIME WHY POMOCO WILL GIVE THEM A "PEACE OF MIND" "OF COURSE".;D (dont worry you have to be from the Penisula to get it)

Captains MC is on the clock and payback is a  ;).
Finest 54........If you will notice, all this talk you refer to is not coming from the the only three NCWC supporters I see on this board, could be that means they are not looking ahead......... :) I think Coach Ginn would prefer they play each game one at the time....and I think that is the way the supporters are looking at it... the truth will be in the pudding at the end of the season, which ever way it falls. :) By the way, getting in might not be so difficult, but after attending NCWC... staying in is!!

I did notice I never said I was calling out NCW or their coach. Thats why I said all this talk about NCW refering to the chatter coming from NCW fans. Besides come on ref, I played the game what good coach looks ahead? I made no refrence to NCW coaching staff my comments where directed to NCW fans. And as far as speaking on NCW as a school I can't speak on their academics because I never attended the school. But facts are facts, CNU tried to get a few of NCW studs in but could not for various reason. I just get tired of this private vs public debate when people try to discredit the success our program has had over the past years. I HAVE LOST TO PLENTY OF PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THE PLAYOFFS AND THEY NEVER THOUGHT THE LITTLE LOTTERY SUPPORTED PUBLIC SCHOOL HAD AN ADVANTAGE OVER THEM, THEY JUST STRAPPED IT ON AND PLAYED. 

And to whom ever dinged my karma thanks.  ;D ;D ;D.

And MC fan no animosity over here Im just mad I can't be there for the CNU-NCW game. A certain young lady decided to throw our house warming on the freaking 27th.  :(

Finest 54,,,,,,,Loosen your suspender straps a little,  If you read my response again you might see I never insinuated you making any reference to the coach or fans......I was simply making a statement that we all know and understand,being one game at a time, is the only way NCWC can afford to look at it and it's fans as well. As far as CNU, I respect their program and I think all NCWC fans know that to advance any program in this conference, you must go through CNU first. That, in my book, is a compliment to CNU and their program. As far as your not being able to attend the game, my sympathy goes out to you. As for me, I shall be sitting by the radio, as I to will also be unable to attend . Kudos to you and your program, but as one fan to another.....Go Bishops  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 17, 2007, 08:31:59 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 17, 2007, 12:18:45 AM
And MC fan no animosity over here Im just mad I can't be there for the CNU-NCW game. A certain young lady decided to throw our house warming on the freaking 27th.  :(

Definately negative brownie points on making you miss a huge conference game for a house warming party to her...  At least you can hear it on the internet (I believe CNU has internet streaming for their game).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 17, 2007, 03:31:15 PM
They do. What's more the stat tracker program on the web site is good for live stats too.
I like it better than some of the D1 versions. But its not the same I know. I'm hoping that maybe I can convince someone (CNU85 hint hint) to trade text on score updates from that game as MC vs MU will be at a noninternet environment where we can't keep up.
<sigh> :-\
maybe next year Murvul's wireless will be in place ::)

For those too bored to do anything else, here's the weekend travel blog.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071017/SPORTS/71016025 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071017/SPORTS/71016025)

And yes Im working today but only for a few hours to leave my desk cleaned and inbox empty before head for Stone Mountain.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 17, 2007, 03:45:04 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 17, 2007, 12:18:45 AM


And MC fan no animosity over here Im just mad I can't be there for the CNU-NCW game. A certain young lady decided to throw our house warming on the freaking 27th.  :(

WTF??? You better get that crap straightened out NOW!!!!! Next thing you know it'll be a tupperware party on Super Bowl Sunday!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 17, 2007, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 17, 2007, 03:45:04 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 17, 2007, 12:18:45 AM


And MC fan no animosity over here Im just mad I can't be there for the CNU-NCW game. A certain young lady decided to throw our house warming on the freaking 27th.  :(

WTF??? You better get that crap straightened out NOW!!!!! Next thing you know it'll be a tupperware party on Super Bowl Sunday!!

yeah someone may lose their man card over this one... just kidding  :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 17, 2007, 04:29:45 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 17, 2007, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 17, 2007, 03:45:04 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 17, 2007, 12:18:45 AM


And MC fan no animosity over here Im just mad I can't be there for the CNU-NCW game. A certain young lady decided to throw our house warming on the freaking 27th.  :(

WTF??? You better get that crap straightened out NOW!!!!! Next thing you know it'll be a tupperware party on Super Bowl Sunday!!

yeah someone may lose their man card over this one... just kidding  :P

:D :D :D +1 for the "man card" comment!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 17, 2007, 04:31:54 PM
I have an irrevocable "man card"....while only being married about 2-3 years, I left my wife at home on her birthday so I could go to a Vikings game!!! (No comments from pakownr from the ODAC board, please!!)...It's been 22 years and she still lets me in the front door!

Priorities, dude!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 17, 2007, 10:15:27 PM
Anyone have an idea for a new poll question?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 18, 2007, 01:07:35 AM
Papi, Narch, 54, and 85

Wyoming in this weekend at Air Force for a big one. My last live game this year. Be some hitting.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 18, 2007, 07:08:43 AM
     I am re-posting this from the ODAC board in case some of you USA folk don't get over there. I got a little carried away in my response. Probably more appropriate here.  :-[

Quote from: Highlander on Today at 12:38:18 am
Maryville was a member of the ODAC for a period of time before a MC President ran the school in the ground causing many problems_ facilities, academics, student population, and other finicial problems.


     Oh the stories I could tell!! This period of time impacted me and my family greatly. However, the time I spent there as a member of the MC baseball and football program, "earning" a BA, and the many friendships, far outweigh the negative. I am proud to be a FIGHTING SCOT!! 
     I am as pumped as I have ever been anticipating my annual HC trip to TN next weekend. The Scots have an off week to heal and prep for Methodist. GO SCOTS......CRUSH THE MONARCHS!! Do not let HC 2005 repeat itself!! You have the opportunity to do something truly special in the history of MC football. Seize the opportunity. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 19, 2007, 12:07:32 AM
Allsky,
Here's hoping that I did not offend anyone. My post may have had some misinformation in it. I am to young to even know that MC existed at that time. I was just repeating that which I have heard in the past from others. I personally do not know exactly who or what caused the school to fall on "hard" times during that period, yet I do believe that those had an influence on MC leaving the ODAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 19, 2007, 05:00:25 AM
Quote from: Highlander on October 19, 2007, 12:07:32 AM
Allsky,
Here's hoping that I did not offend anyone. My post may have had some misinformation in it. I am to young to even know that MC existed at that time. I was just repeating that which I have heard in the past from others. I personally do not know exactly who or what caused the school to fall on "hard" times during that period, yet I do believe that those had an influence on MC leaving the ODAC.

     Highlander....you certainly did not offend me. There is at least some accuracy to your post. I can only speak to what I know from my personal experience. However, 20+ years after the fact it is water under the bridge. I try to focus on the positive. It certainly seems that things are good at MC these days. Enrollment is up, athletic teams (mens & womens) are having success, and the campus looks great. Most likely a result of the huge donation I make every year!!  ;) :D GO SCOTS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 19, 2007, 05:33:24 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 19, 2007, 05:00:25 AM
Quote from: Highlander on October 19, 2007, 12:07:32 AM
Allsky,
Here's hoping that I did not offend anyone. My post may have had some misinformation in it. I am to young to even know that MC existed at that time. I was just repeating that which I have heard in the past from others. I personally do not know exactly who or what caused the school to fall on "hard" times during that period, yet I do believe that those had an influence on MC leaving the ODAC.

     Highlander....you certainly did not offend me. There is at least some accuracy to your post. I can only speak to what I know from my personal experience. However, 20+ years after the fact it is water under the bridge. I try to focus on the positive. It certainly seems that things are good at MC these days. Enrollment is up, athletic teams (mens & womens) are having success, and the campus looks great. Most likely a result of the huge donation I make every year!!  ;) :D GO SCOTS!!

     As for why MC left the ODAC........This happened a few years after my time. I do not know the real reason but the word on the street was it had to do with travel, etc. I'm sure there were several factors but travel seems bogus to me. There is no good choice for MC geographically speaking. Most know my ODAC bias but I have always felt like it was a mistake that they left. I think the advantages of being in the ODAC far outweighed any negatives but what the heck do I know. I was thrilled when they joined the USA South. IMO, MC was always sort of the renegade of the ODAC during those years. My inner rebel rather enjoyed that.  ;D As big a fan as I am of Hampden-Sydney, beating an 8 and 2 Tiger team in 1984 will always be a great memory.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 19, 2007, 05:35:18 AM
Allsky,
It seems that Maryville is finally beginning to perform in all athletic endeavors with the same amount of success that the school has seen in the academic realm for many years. IMHO, I believe that it is great to see all of the teams finding success. Having a strong athletic dept. can only do positive things for the institution as a whole. I, like you, would not trade my memories or experiences for anything in the world. To the point that my better half doesn,t always understand just how deep my feelings lie. But, we have to forgive her- she went to a large public university nearby. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 19, 2007, 05:40:21 AM
To me, being on the last MC team to beat 3 ODAC schools in the same season was a great memory. That season we were able to beat Bridgewater, H-SC, and good ole E&H on senior day in that season. To make it even better it was my senior year, and we finished the season 7-3. It was always a great day in Maryville when we were able to beat E&H, I am still saddened that the game is not played anymore. There was never anyone we enjoyed beating more than them. For me that meant I was on teams that split the series 2-2.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 19, 2007, 06:30:33 AM
Quote from: Highlander on October 19, 2007, 05:35:18 AM
Allsky,
It seems that Maryville is finally beginning to perform in all athletic endeavors with the same amount of success that the school has seen in the academic realm for many years. IMHO, I believe that it is great to see all of the teams finding success. Having a strong athletic dept. can only do positive things for the institution as a whole. I, like you, would not trade my memories or experiences for anything in the world. To the point that my better half doesn,t always understand just how deep my feelings lie. But, we have to forgive her- she went to a large public university nearby. ;)

    Guess we'll have to cut your "better half" a little slack. As I stated in a previous post, not everyone can be as enlightened as we are.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 19, 2007, 02:44:12 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 19, 2007, 06:30:33 AM
Quote from: Highlander on October 19, 2007, 05:35:18 AM
Allsky,
It seems that Maryville is finally beginning to perform in all athletic endeavors with the same amount of success that the school has seen in the academic realm for many years. IMHO, I believe that it is great to see all of the teams finding success. Having a strong athletic dept. can only do positive things for the institution as a whole. I, like you, would not trade my memories or experiences for anything in the world. To the point that my better half doesn,t always understand just how deep my feelings lie. But, we have to forgive her- she went to a large public university nearby. ;)

    Guess we'll have to cut your "better half" a little slack. As I stated in a previous post, not everyone can be as enlightened as we are.  ;)
You just have to know going into it that nobody is perfect  ;) and remind her that MC has more wins this year than UT...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 19, 2007, 08:38:28 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 18, 2007, 01:07:35 AM
Papi, Narch, 54, and 85

Wyoming in this weekend at Air Force for a big one. My last live game this year. Be some hitting.

Drink one for me!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2007, 09:03:32 PM
just one? :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 20, 2007, 07:54:14 AM
Smith Reed.....will you be in RM today....see you !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on October 20, 2007, 09:56:49 AM
Old Ref, I'll see you there!!!!
My weekly predictions:
CNU over MC
AU in a mild upset against GC
NCW beats SU - they better watch out for SU' s scrappy defense and they
should not be looking ahead to CNU next week. Remember: THIS BALL IS
NOT ROUND!!!!!!!
GO BIHOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2007, 04:17:12 PM
wow...another close game with Methodist. I guess my preseason prediction was close. I had it 17-14, CNU. Final today was 24-17 CNU.

NArch - I told you it was gonna be a close, fun game to watch.

The MU QB sounded pretty good on the radio.

CNU RB Thomas was a beast. Can't wait to see final stats....he might have broken CNU record for rushing yds in a game which was 215 (MU computer with stats wasn't working).  Too bad he was hurt at the start of 4th QT....he may have finished up with close to 300 if he played the entire game. Not bad for the third guy on the depth chart.

Next week's game is on the clock.....NCW @ CNU. Homecoming weekend, conference championship very well could be on the line (Ferrum still lurks). I expect over 5,000 at POMOCO.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2007, 04:31:28 PM
Funny thing happened today...I get my football "man card" stamped again. I was out running errands (timed that way so I could listen to the game on radio). I had to run in to the locally owned pharmacy. I was about to leave when the owner came up and said, "see those people walking across the parking lot? It's the Governor". He was coming to buy school supplies, then he was going to deliver them to a charity that distributes the supplies to those who need it.

I said, ok, cool, whatever. As I was leaving the store, the governor was coming in....I kinda pushed the door wider so one of his minions could grab it and I kept heading to the car....the game was on the radio....I didn't have "time for Tim". It was the CNU Captains in a close game, on the radio!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2007, 04:32:34 PM
I think there's a Hasanova poem in the making about that story!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2007, 06:04:35 PM
somebody let me know when stats are available from the game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2007, 06:22:00 PM
'85 - it was a very good game and fun to watch...the capts and #20 were too much in the end, but the monarchs were certainly game - gotta play with the kids...i'll have more tonight
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2007, 06:24:22 PM
thanks narch...enjoy the "chiddren"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 20, 2007, 06:27:56 PM
Papi
That Chad Hall (TB) of Air Force had another 170 yds today.

Something about a college football game during the day in the fall......................Last one this year.

Moving out.......... drawing fire.......... next week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2007, 08:33:33 PM
wow...254 yds for Mike Thomas in 3 quarters! I hope he does it again next week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2007, 08:43:07 PM
14-12 GC over AU at the half. I think I have the teams right on the score....the webcast is not clear. It's 14-12 somebody...pretty sure it is GC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2007, 09:25:16 PM
alright...here is my lowdown - first off, i think the monarchs might be one of the best one-win teams in the country - aside from the blowout they suffered vs. ncwc, they've been in every game, and this was no exception - first series mu looked horrible, but for most of the first half, the monarchs really were dominating cnu...they got 3 to's and i'd be willing to bet they outgained the captains by 80-100 yards in the first half (although i didn't see a box score, so i could be wrong)...and it was 10-2 at the half - i thought the monarchs should have gone for it on 4th and 3 instead of kicking the fg near the end of the half because i felt like they needed 7's instead of 3's...but there is no guarantee the monarchs would have picked up a 1st down or scored a td - opening drive of the second half and the captains just shoved the ball down the monarchs throat with #20...he was a beast on that drive and i thought "uh oh...here it comes" - i think the monarchs went 3 and out on the next series (more doom and gloom set in for me), then cnu gets the ball and big #20 breaks a nice run...and puts the ball on the carpet and the monarchs recover - i told the guy next to me "they need to go up top" and sure enough, the first play is about a 30 yard pass...a parks run and two mcguire runs later, the monarchs are in the end zone and up 17-10 - now i'm thinking "maybe these guys can pull it out", but cnu drives right back down the field and scores to tie it at 17 - cnu went up 24-17 and i felt like the monarchs were done, but they drove the ball down the field AGAIN and parks hit his receiver in the end zone on 4th and 9...only to have a cnu defender make a nice play and jar the ball lose on what would have been a HUGE catch
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2007, 09:25:30 PM
a couple things i liked about the monarchs today - first, and most importantly...they didn't quit - this is a team that has to be very disappointed with the way the season has played out, but they keep fighting and clawing and scratching...i like the fight - second, parks showed me that he is going to be special...he made great decisions today knowing when to run and when the play was there, he made some really nice throws and he ran the read plays to perfection...i bet when the coaches look at the film there will be very few missed reads and that kid runs HARD...always looking to finish runs (which might not be good for a qb :)) - third, the monarchs have found 2 young rb's in harrison and mcguire that should be able to produce nicely over the next 3 years - the fact that mike hill didn't suit up and the monarchs were still very much in this ball game is in large part because those guys are pretty good...very different styles, but both great runners - i loved the offensive sets when the monarchs had both of them flanking parks in the shotgun...tough to defend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2007, 09:36:41 PM
lastly...i'm going to jump on the "cnu isn't as good as they used to be" bandwagon - i'm not ready yet to say that ncwc will beat them, especially since the game is in pomoco, but other than #20 running all over the monarchs and a couple of solid throws by faison i just didn't see any players for the captains that made me go "wow" - they looked smaller than they have in past years, especially on the lines (although one of the dt's was HUGE) and most especially at lb - most of the lb's looked like db's...maybe that's because they're young at that position...maybe they're emphasizing speed over size in the recruiting process...who knows - the first few years of cnu football those guys LOOKED like scholarship players (i guess 'cause many of them previously were) - maybe i'm not giving the other teams in the usasac enough credit, though...maybe cnu isn't much worse, but the rest of the conference is catching up - i'd like to think that is the case and i'd like to think that the monarchs, despite being 1-6, are a team that can compete with cnu on a regular basis...next weekend will tell us a lot - wonder what kind of spread tipps is going to put on the cnu/ncwc game :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2007, 10:05:55 PM
ok...actually this is my last post and it has to do with game atmosphere

i've been following mu football for a long time, and i'm really pleased to see what has happened this season - i saw at least 5 or 6 guys with their chests/faces painted today along with a group of 3 young ladies with their stomachs painted (they couldn't get more than a few letters on their stomachs...GO on one, M on the other and U and the last...if i decided to paint mine, i could spell out GO METHODIST UNIVERSITY MONARCHS, WIN TODAY!!!!!) - the "monarch zone" has been a nice addition this season and today it was in high gear with a number of MU clubs selling grilled brats, bbq ribs, chicken and polish sausage...great eats, a great fundraising idea and it really adds to the atmosphere to smell those grills going - since i started following mu football i've always thought the parking lot across from the stadium was a perfect place to tailgate, and it has happened this season - i hope everyone will continue this through the last home game in a few weeks and into next season - it's going to take some time for this "tailgating" to really settle into the mindset of monarch football fans, but it's great to see the effort being made by the campus leaders who are trying to build spirit and i hope they don't let it die - the pep band has been great all season and i'm hearing that a marching band might be on the horizon - i've said it before, but monarch stadium has SO MUCH potential to be a great d3 football venue...now if we could just get the fans that are there to understand that they need to get LOUD :)

oh yeah...gc wins 21-19 on a blocked fg as time basically ran out...sounds like averett came to play and almost pulled off the (mild) upset
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 21, 2007, 12:54:38 AM
Narch,

Good posts. I listened to the game on radio. The MU fans were into it.
I told you the game would be close.....and yes...MU has to be the best 1 loss team in the land. I was actually looking at your schedule tonight and wondering how many plays you guys are away from being 5-2 or even 6-1.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 21, 2007, 01:10:31 AM
Quote from: narch on October 20, 2007, 09:36:41 PM
lastly...i'm going to jump on the "cnu isn't as good as they used to be" bandwagon - i'm not ready yet to say that ncwc will beat them, especially since the game is in pomoco, but other than #20 running all over the monarchs and a couple of solid throws by faison i just didn't see any players for the captains that made me go "wow" - they looked smaller than they have in past years, especially on the lines (although one of the dt's was HUGE) and most especially at lb - most of the lb's looked like db's...maybe that's because they're young at that position...maybe they're emphasizing speed over size in the recruiting process...who knows - the first few years of cnu football those guys LOOKED like scholarship players (i guess 'cause many of them previously were) - maybe i'm not giving the other teams in the usasac enough credit, though...maybe cnu isn't much worse, but the rest of the conference is catching up - i'd like to think that is the case and i'd like to think that the monarchs, despite being 1-6, are a team that can compete with cnu on a regular basis...next weekend will tell us a lot - wonder what kind of spread tipps is going to put on the cnu/ncwc game :)

good points. Can't argue any of them...just offer a different view. I think the LBs are a little smaller than in the past...but I haven't looked at rosters to compare...could be just an impression and not the actual case. I do think that some teams are catching up to CNU. However, GC, AU, and SU aren't catching up with anybody. I think the conference is going in a few directions. NCW, MC, are drastically improving...GC, SU, and AU are headed in the other direction. More specifically GC is about the same...bad....AU and SU have problems rebuilding....they'll be back. FC is always a lurking team. MU is just having an off year....The QB sounds solid....not sure about the rest of the roster as far as who is returning next year....they should be ok.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 21, 2007, 09:21:58 AM
here is the game story (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=275596) from the fayetteville observer (with the closest thing i've found to a box score)

and here is a story about brandon parks and the read option (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=275513) from yesterday morning
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 21, 2007, 09:42:45 AM
Narch, Always felt NCWC caught MU on a low day. I think they(Methodist) have proven they are a strong team and one to be delt with in the future.  Agree with you all the way. Congrats to CNU on a big win!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on October 21, 2007, 02:56:33 PM
Big conference game this week -- NCW vs CNU I'll be there.
Where is Pomoco Stadium and how do I get there off of 64E?
Is it on the CNU web site?
GO BISHOPS!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 21, 2007, 07:34:06 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on October 21, 2007, 02:56:33 PM
Big conference game this week -- NCW vs CNU I'll be there.
Where is Pomoco Stadium and how do I get there off of 64E?
Is it on the CNU web site?
GO BISHOPS!!!!!!!!

POMOCO...take the J Clyde Morris Blvd exit....Rt 17 South. Stay on J. Clyde...cross Jefferson Ave and then you have options. Probably the best way is to turn right on Warwick....lots of construction going on....turn left on University Dr at the Freeman Center. It's a couple of lights down. Parking is right there. Then follow all the CNU fans as they head towards POMOCO and another CNU victory!!! :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 21, 2007, 09:42:48 PM
I know one who will be following live stats of that game sitting in Lynchburg
along with ACFC battle for #1 Wesley-Salisbury

all while at NNA-So Va.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on October 22, 2007, 07:47:33 AM
Narch- Great posts man. I am glad to see the boys down there are still playing trying to salvage whats left of the season. The game with CNU has turned into a great rivalry. I agree with what you said though, they are probably the best 1 win team in the nation. I have not had the pleasure of going to a game yet, though i will be down on nov. 10 to watch the game there against SU. I have looked at their stats, they are performing, just not getting the W. They will be ok in the next couple of years. Look at Rocket, his Junior year was his breakout year. Might be the same tradition to continue. Parks will know the offense, and can perfect it. The line will  be solid, and very experienced. Good things are coming to Methodist.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 22, 2007, 12:13:29 PM
SHOWDOWN at POMOCO!

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 22, 2007, 12:28:19 PM
This might be NCWC's year.  CNU has come off 2 down prefomances against Methodist (winning by 7) and Maryville (winning by 14).  Then again CNU doesn't lose at POMOCO field... something has to give.  This will give CNU a chance to reaffirm their dominance in the conference, or show their run of finishing on top of the conference is over.  This is gonna be a great game!  I hope it comes down to a field goal.  Maybe that extra field goal practice that CNU got late in the game against Greensboro, that lead to someone leaving our board  ;D, will pay off.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: used2b on October 22, 2007, 05:32:38 PM
I am new to this board and have only put a few posts up here.
-Anyone think NCWC's offensive speed will just be too much for CNU? I'm leaning towards a game that might not be too close, looking at the comparative scores.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 22, 2007, 06:32:52 PM
Quote from: used2b on October 22, 2007, 05:32:38 PM
I am new to this board and have only put a few posts up here.
-Anyone think NCWC's offensive speed will just be too much for CNU? I'm leaning towards a game that might not be too close, looking at the comparative scores.

     used.......RESIST THE URGE MAN.....RESIST THE URGE!!!  :D :D Below is a post of mine from the ODAC board earlier in the season.  ;)

I promise I will never...ever...EVER compare scores again!!   

Johns Hopkins 17 H-S 16
H-S 54 Gettysburg 7
Gettysburg 41 Hopkins 10 (at Hopkins)


     



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 22, 2007, 07:38:22 PM
Quote from: swish3 on October 22, 2007, 12:13:29 PM
SHOWDOWN at POMOCO!

GO CAPS!

who is this Swish guy?  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 22, 2007, 09:33:23 PM
Made it back from Atlanta in one piece, though I think there was one morning i'd have bled to death if i'd opened my eyes for any length of time 8)  (A gathering of the clans and my chief is the one who wants to drink 25 year old scotch till dawn! There's worse ways to die ... or at least feel like you have later)

I'm going with NCW speed. I haven't seen anything like it live this season, but Im sure CNU saw something faster in Texas this year. But CNU is a more disciplined team and not prone to blown assignments or careless penalties so I have no idea. This could be a close game or NCW runs away with it.

MU seems to be on an upswing coming to Murvul. Any word on Hill's return?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 22, 2007, 11:14:48 PM
Well if it isn't good ol Swish 3... Good to see you are still posting for the Captains.

Well the big game is here and I am so freaking pumped... If any of the young guys read this board, THIS IS YOUR TIME TO STAMP YOUR NAME & TEAM INTO CNU HISTORY. You have heard the doubts about you and that you guys are not as good as some of the teams in the past and I don't think thats all a bad thing. We used to get too cocky at least once a year in conference games and loose one.  BUT THERE IS ONE THING THAT WE COULD ALWAYS GET DONE. WE WOULD ALWAYS WIN THE BIG TIME CONFERENCE GAMES AT HOME. THIS IS THE MAIN REASON YOU GUYS DECIDED TO COME TO CNU, FOR GAMES LIKE THIS AND ALL OF THE ATTENTION ON .

COME ON CAPTAINS SINK THE BISHOPS.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on October 23, 2007, 12:57:13 AM
85, thanks for the directions to Pomoco. I plan on getting down there
early. NCW has a lot of kids from the Tidewater & Peninsula area so family
and friends will be showing up for this one. The weatherman is calling for
sprinkles right now. Let's hope for good football weather and ideal conditions,
it'll make for a good game. What's all this stuff about NCW speed? Like CNU
doesn't have speed--- give me a break. This could be a real track meet.
See all yall Saturday. GO BISHOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 23, 2007, 06:39:28 AM
     Any posters headed to the Maryville/Methodist game this weekend? If so,make it a point to introduce yourself. Even Monarch types are welcome. We can quit speaking to each other AFTER the game starts.  ;) I'll be the 40 something redneck dude with buzzed hair and a goatee. That should narrow it down to a thousand or so anyway!!  :D  I'll be driving a blue Tacoma with personalized VA tags. Trust me, you'll know it when you see it. There will only be a few vehicles with  VA tags on the entire campus.  I plan to arrive early enough to (hopefully) get a spot in the small lot on the east end of the stadium. I can't promise Stone Station like vittles, but can offer D3 conver and a cold one!!   ;D
     This is a game that makes me extremely nervous. A statement game against a (better than their record) Methodist team thats says we are close to being a serious contender in the USA South. Not to mention it is HC. GO SCOTS!!! Big Game.....BIG GAME....I'm pumped!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on October 23, 2007, 08:25:14 AM
ALLSKY7- I thought about driving up for the game. I am not 100% sure right now, i have to wait and see what time our game is going to be over on fridaynight. If we handle business then i will be able to make it. I may drive to my parents house in asheville, then go to the game and be there around 9 or so. I will let you know around thursday and we can talk and you can send me a personal message of where you will be come saturday. Shoulod be a good game for both teams, hopefully methodist can get back on track and finish the season on a high note. GO MONARCHS~!!!!!!!
Title: Just Checkin
Post by: Eh-You on October 23, 2007, 12:03:25 PM
kickerdad - how is the boy?
Title: Re: Just Checkin
Post by: kickerdad on October 23, 2007, 12:23:05 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 23, 2007, 12:03:25 PM
kickerdad - how is the boy?

As well as you would expect for someone who is shouldering the loss. He went bck to the practice field over the weekend and worked several hours by himself to try and figure out what is going on. Without seeing film, I couldn't tell you what went wrong. I personelly think that going all year without a field goal because they are getting blocked all the time, may have been on his mind when he missed the two FG's. It shouldn't have been, but sometimes with kickers they will dwell on that crap. He is letting the team and coaches know, that he shoulders the loss (he alone). What happens now is up to him and his mental state. He has the ability to overcome, but the mind plays games sometimes. All I can do is offer support. I already exploded and beat the hell out of the Greensboro Stadium concrete wall. I figured I needed to to that before he and I talked. I know the coaches were extremely pissed with him so that will be something he and they need to work out. Two good years prior to this one and then all hell breaks loose.
Title: Re: Just Checkin
Post by: allsky7 on October 23, 2007, 12:36:03 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 23, 2007, 12:23:05 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on October 23, 2007, 12:03:25 PM
kickerdad - how is the boy?

As well as you would expect for someone who is shouldering the loss. He went bck to the practice field over the weekend and worked several hours by himself to try and figure out what is going on. Without seeing film, I couldn't tell you what went wrong. I personelly think that going all year without a field goal because they are getting blocked all the time, may have been on his mind when he missed the two FG's. It shouldn't have been, but sometimes with kickers they will dwell on that crap. He is letting the team and coaches know, that he shoulders the loss (he alone). What happens now is up to him and his mental state. He has the ability to overcome, but the mind plays games sometimes. All I can do is offer support. I already exploded and beat the hell out of the Greensboro Stadium concrete wall. I figured I needed to to that before he and I talked. I know the coaches were extremely pissed with him so that will be something he and they need to work out. Two good years prior to this one and then all hell breaks loose.

     kicker.... I missed a few big ones in my career so I feel your pain. Unfortunately, kicking is a what have you done for me lately kinda deal. Both of you hang in there. Brighter days are ahead.  ;) 8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 23, 2007, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on October 23, 2007, 12:57:13 AM
85, thanks for the directions to Pomoco. I plan on getting down there
early. NCW has a lot of kids from the Tidewater & Peninsula area so family
and friends will be showing up for this one. The weatherman is calling for
sprinkles right now. Let's hope for good football weather and ideal conditions,
it'll make for a good game. What's all this stuff about NCW speed? Like CNU
doesn't have speed--- give me a break. This could be a real track meet.
See all yall Saturday. GO BISHOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!

nah...we're slow and small this year!!  :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC DAD on October 23, 2007, 03:49:46 PM
85, Sounds like a great match-up. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 23, 2007, 05:00:58 PM
This weeks contest at Pomoco should be a great one!  I think we have two very good teams facing off. Should be great for the conference! I am in no way trying to say either team should look ahead, but neither can afford to have a let down in the final two contest.......that would really shake things up.
.....Go Bishops !

85.....What is the weather forecast for this week?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 23, 2007, 08:14:37 PM
Forecast.....77 and 40% chance of rain. But it will change 5 times before game time. I predict ROYAL BLUE skies with some SILVER clouds SAILING across the horizon!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 23, 2007, 08:22:25 PM
anyone else notice that Ferrum has won twice as many games as last year already......has 1 OT loss in the conference and will most likely be 4-1 going into the final 2 weeks. Plus their fans have been quiet on this board lately.

I smell a trap!! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 23, 2007, 08:24:28 PM
Quote from: NCWC DAD on October 23, 2007, 03:49:46 PM
85, Sounds like a great match-up. 

yes it does.....i cannot wait until Saturday....that day is gonna be a blast.....homecoming, food, festivities, football, the band...5,000+ in attendence.....

Saturday afternoon football baby!! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2007, 09:26:25 PM
my prediction...cnu 38-ncwc 35...on a 45 yard fg as time expires

and the monarchs will close the season on a 3 game win streak...

or not...i could be wrong
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 23, 2007, 09:29:37 PM
85

Looks like rain could effect all the eastern seaboard games this weekend.  Then again the weatherman said rain here all evening here and nary a drop.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 23, 2007, 11:19:06 PM
I am kinda sorry about my rant IRT offcials.

But it was a relief valve. They make me so damn mad.

Well anyway fellow posters I am off for train up at Camp Lejuene NC for follow on service to IRAQ. I will be out of the net until about the end of NOV. Then I will give the skinny on D10 Iraqi football leagues. No one has explained the use of a frag as a ball to play with but they will learn. ;)

It will hurt this former Ranger to have to live with Marines but hey...it's the only war we got.

If I am not bumped off too quick I will give you te low down. Keep the faith.

ABNRGR

and remember "Rangers Lead The Way" 8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 23, 2007, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 23, 2007, 11:19:06 PM
I am kinda sorry about my rant IRT offcials.

But it was a relief valve. They make me so damn mad.

Well anyway fellow posters I am off for train up at Camp Lejuene NC for follow on service to IRAQ. I will be out of the net until about the end of NOV. Then I will give the skinny on D10 Iraqi football leagues. No one has explained the use of a frag as a ball to play with but they will learn. ;)

It will hurt this former Ranger to have to live with Marines but hey...it's the only war we got.

If I am not bumped off too quick I will give you te low down. Keep the faith.

ABNRGR

and remember "Rangers Lead The Way" 8)

Good Luck and get back safe!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on October 23, 2007, 11:56:13 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 23, 2007, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 23, 2007, 11:19:06 PM
I am kinda sorry about my rant IRT offcials.

But it was a relief valve. They make me so damn mad.

Well anyway fellow posters I am off for train up at Camp Lejuene NC for follow on service to IRAQ. I will be out of the net until about the end of NOV. Then I will give the skinny on D10 Iraqi football leagues. No one has explained the use of a frag as a ball to play with but they will learn. ;)

It will hurt this former Ranger to have to live with Marines but hey...it's the only war we got.

If I am not bumped off too quick I will give you te low down. Keep the faith.

ABNRGR

and remember "Rangers Lead The Way" 8)

Good Luck and get back safe!

Amen and God Bless!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 24, 2007, 05:39:57 AM
ABN...when you get to Lejeune give me a holler, we'll go get a few beers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 24, 2007, 06:04:41 AM
Quote from: narch on October 23, 2007, 09:26:25 PM
my prediction...cnu 38-ncwc 35...on a 45 yard fg as time expires

and the monarchs will close the season on a 3 game win streak...

or not...i could be wrong

     I say not narch.  ;) How about a two game win streak after this weekend?  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 24, 2007, 08:52:58 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 23, 2007, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 23, 2007, 11:19:06 PM
I am kinda sorry about my rant IRT offcials.

But it was a relief valve. They make me so damn mad.

Well anyway fellow posters I am off for train up at Camp Lejuene NC for follow on service to IRAQ. I will be out of the net until about the end of NOV. Then I will give the skinny on D10 Iraqi football leagues. No one has explained the use of a frag as a ball to play with but they will learn. ;)

It will hurt this former Ranger to have to live with Marines but hey...it's the only war we got.

If I am not bumped off too quick I will give you te low down. Keep the faith.

ABNRGR

and remember "Rangers Lead The Way" 8)

Good Luck and get back safe!

ABNRGR.........Unfortunately there are some things more important than football....On a serious note, from one old Vietnam Navy Special force member to a fellow member in harms way, Keep your head down and your eyes opened....May God bless you and keep you safe....

Go Bishops!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 24, 2007, 12:01:00 PM
Anyone at Honaker can generally find me around the pressbox after about 11:30 or 12 depending on how late the Friday night games went. If there's a cold one in the parking lot please let me know and I'll divert my morning. :D

I'm counting on CNU85 (who i think I just volunteered for the job ;D) to text me updates of the game at POMOCO since we're wireless-less in Murvul.

You can't compare scores but you can compare speed. Scots were even to a quarter step behind CNU speedwise, where as NCW was constantly 1/2 step to two steps ahead on both sides of the ball. I'd trust in Kelchner's scheme rather than hoping for a track meet you won't win. 8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on October 24, 2007, 12:12:13 PM
NARCH- I hope you are right. I will have to agree with you. If the defense plays well, i think the monarchs can pull off the upset. They need this one for a morale booster. One other question. Delapp and I will be down for the SU game on NOV.10, where is this tailgating happening at? I wish they would have had it while we were there for all the fans besides just allowing parents to eat. The deans were so worried with things happening they were scared to let anyone get a little crazy. Its good for the future of the program. I will be bringing down 2 players of mine with me from my football team. 6'7 305 lb Left tackle, and 6'1 195 lb DB. Both kids are very good athletes and want to play somewhere close to home. So i told them to come down and see the campus and a game and meet coach sypult. Should be good!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 24, 2007, 12:20:38 PM
Quote from: MC_ftbl51 on October 24, 2007, 12:12:13 PM
NARCH- I hope you are right. I will have to agree with you. If the defense plays well, i think the monarchs can pull off the upset. They need this one for a morale booster. One other question. Delapp and I will be down for the SU game on NOV.10, where is this tailgating happening at? I wish they would have had it while we were there for all the fans besides just allowing parents to eat. The deans were so worried with things happening they were scared to let anyone get a little crazy. Its good for the future of the program. I will be bringing down 2 players of mine with me from my football team. 6'7 305 lb Left tackle, and 6'1 195 lb DB. Both kids are very good athletes and want to play somewhere close to home. So i told them to come down and see the campus and a game and meet coach sypult. Should be good!

          Tailgating (as most of us know it) pretty much didn't use to exist at MC. ( Maryville College  ;)) I think they finally realized that when alums come back and have a good time,  they are more generous with their donations.  ;D Winning doesn't hurt either.  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 24, 2007, 12:25:27 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 24, 2007, 12:01:00 PM
Anyone at Honaker can generally find me around the pressbox after about 11:30 or 12 depending on how late the Friday night games went. If there's a cold one in the parking lot please let me know and I'll divert my morning. :D

I'm counting on CNU85 (who i think I just volunteered for the job ;D) to text me updates of the game at POMOCO since we're wireless-less in Murvul.

You can't compare scores but you can compare speed. Scots were even to a quarter step behind CNU speedwise, where as NCW was constantly 1/2 step to two steps ahead on both sides of the ball. I'd trust in Kelchner's scheme rather than hoping for a track meet you won't win. 8)

     Battered....I'll be looking for you. I assure you there WILL be a cold one in the parking lot.  ;)

     I picked NCW in the pick ems because I feel like their speed will be the difference. I must confess though that my gut feeling was to go with CNU. That POMOCO streak does have to end sometime doesn't it?  ???

     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 24, 2007, 12:51:37 PM
abnrgr - make it home safe...from your excursion with papi and from iraq...papi doesn't know how to count...a few means 10-12 to him :)

mcftbl_51 - you've gotta change your screen name to muftbl_51 so you don't confuse all those murvul boys :) - the tailgating happens directly across from the stadium in that little parking lot beside the student center - it's not a crazy scene...more of a family deal - last week mu clubs and orgs were selling brats, sausages, bbq ribs, etc. pretty cheap (i got a plate with sausage, potatoe salad and grilled corn on the cob for $4 and it filled me) - they've got tables set up and there was an inflatable and face painting for the kids and the cheerleaders & pep band performed the fight song on the way into the stadium...pretty cool atmosphere and something i hope sticks around
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 24, 2007, 01:14:50 PM
Quote from: narch on October 24, 2007, 12:51:37 PM
abnrgr - make it home safe...from your excursion with papi and from iraq...papi doesn't know how to count...a few means 10-12 to him :)

mcftbl_51 - you've gotta change your screen name to muftbl_51 so you don't confuse all those murvul boys :) -the tailgating happens directly across from the stadium in that little parking lot beside the student center  - it's not a crazy scene...more of a family deal - last week mu clubs and orgs were selling brats, sausages, bbq ribs, etc. pretty cheap (i got a plate with sausage, potatoe salad and grilled corn on the cob for $4 and it filled me) - they've got tables set up and there was an inflatable and face painting for the kids and the cheerleaders & pep band performed the fight song on the way into the stadium...pretty cool atmosphere and something i hope sticks around

     narch....you referring to MC or MU tailgating? If you are talking about MC, then you are in the wrong spot. The east endzone is usually pretty good for HC. There and the small parking lot on the SE corner of the field. If you are really brave, you can try the W end of the stadium where all the tree cutting lunatics hang out.  :D I have a Maryville shirt you can borrow if you want to blend in.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 24, 2007, 01:45:27 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 24, 2007, 12:01:00 PM

I'm counting on CNU85 (who i think I just volunteered for the job ;D) to text me updates of the game at POMOCO since we're wireless-less in Murvul.


you got it...scores on the way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 24, 2007, 05:56:39 PM
Tough one to call down at CNU this weekend.  Hard to beat the Captains at CNU, but man NCWC looks good on paper.

Home field advantage is huge with CNU and might be all they need to secure the title outright. but... I guess if I had to put money on the game I would go with NCWC.  Either way - going to be a great game down there!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 24, 2007, 05:59:49 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on October 23, 2007, 12:57:13 AM
85, thanks for the directions to Pomoco. I plan on getting down there
early. NCW has a lot of kids from the Tidewater & Peninsula area so family
and friends will be showing up for this one. The weatherman is calling for
sprinkles right now. Let's hope for good football weather and ideal conditions,
it'll make for a good game. What's all this stuff about NCW speed? Like CNU
doesn't have speed--- give me a break. This could be a real track meet.
See all yall Saturday. GO BISHOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!

+1 for calling it Tidewater instead of lame "Hampton Roads"...   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 24, 2007, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 24, 2007, 05:59:49 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on October 23, 2007, 12:57:13 AM
85, thanks for the directions to Pomoco. I plan on getting down there
early. NCW has a lot of kids from the Tidewater & Peninsula area so family
and friends will be showing up for this one. The weatherman is calling for
sprinkles right now. Let's hope for good football weather and ideal conditions,
it'll make for a good game. What's all this stuff about NCW speed? Like CNU
doesn't have speed--- give me a break. This could be a real track meet.
See all yall Saturday. GO BISHOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!

SU97 sounds like you may have spent some time in this area (Tidewater)

+1 for calling it Tidewater instead of lame "Hampton Roads"...   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 24, 2007, 10:15:36 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 24, 2007, 01:14:50 PMnarch....you referring to MC or MU tailgating?

MU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 25, 2007, 12:36:21 AM
Narch, I only have one drink....I just have a bunch of that one drink  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on October 25, 2007, 09:40:14 AM
Narch- Thanks man, i will be there on the 10th. I am going to coe down and see the new facilities they have built on campus. I heard the science building was something special to look at. My question is when are they going to redo the stadium and upgrade it. They have talked about it even when we were in school there. They need to get a visitors section. The place could look just as good as pomoco if someone they would design it right. Beautiful stadium for a nice campus.

Allsky7- No i am not talking about maryville. I didnt go there at all, and i know its easy to get confused with my screen name. But now you know, just for the record.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 25, 2007, 09:52:49 AM
Quote from: MU_ftbl51 on October 25, 2007, 09:40:14 AM
Narch- Thanks man, i will be there on the 10th. I am going to coe down and see the new facilities they have built on campus. I heard the science building was something special to look at. My question is when are they going to redo the stadium and upgrade it. They have talked about it even when we were in school there. They need to get a visitors section. The place could look just as good as pomoco if someone they would design it right. Beautiful stadium for a nice campus.

Allsky7- No i am not talking about maryville. I didnt go there at all, and i know its easy to get confused with my screen name. But now you know, just for the record.

     MU.....I knew you were a Methodist guy but I thought maybe you were headed to MC this weekend. Just wanted to extend some hospitality and make sure you made it to where the "crazy" tailgating will be taking place.  ;) I have a feeling this game is going to be a tough battle. GO SCOTS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on October 26, 2007, 08:32:34 AM
Allsky7- Yeah man, i wish i could make it up there. I coach high school football now, so i do not get to go any away games, hell barely any home games! However i remember when we played there in 2005, it was a wild and crazy place man. The fans were nice. However, i know it is not funny, but in a way it was.
     After that game, i was in the parking lot with some friends from our team. Some MC fans walked by and shook their heads. The one guy turned and said nice game 51. I looked, smiled nodded, said thanks buddy, your guys played hard as well, good job. He said that sucks so bad, we have the lead, and now we dont at the end of the ball game. He said i was almost drunk when that happened to, and now its like i drank for no reason. I kind of laughed, and went on. You guys are serious about football up there.
   I also heard that high school ball up there is pretty good too. Maryville high school has been pretty darn good over the past couple of years. Good luck, but i hope Methodist can pull one out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 26, 2007, 11:39:08 AM
This post appeared on the ODAC Board....... Needs to be read by Everyone!

Guys, Just a few thoughts about two of our friends on the Board who are on active duty in the U.S. military.  They are FMFDOC on active duty in Iceland and ABNRGR. Both of these men have gone on active duty from civilian jobs into harm's way for all of us. To put a few things in perspective, we banter on an almost daily basis about who has the best team in the ODAC, better offense or defense, and even trivialities such as attendance. Speaking matter of factly, this really doesn't mean Jack. Think about the sacrifices that they are making for all of us. Keep these guys in your prayers and Godspeed to both of them. There's an inscription at 82nd Airborne Memorial that says " Only two people have ever offered to die for you. One was Jesus Christ and the other is the American GI. One died for your soul, the other died for your freedom." So the next time you're watching a football game, make sure to remember those two -- FMFDOC and ABNRGR.

Peace.

E & H Dad

Republic of Vietnam
Class of '68

Thanks E H Dad.......
Republic of Vietnam
Class of 64
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 26, 2007, 03:40:20 PM
Today's MDT pick's panel included MC's game as normal, against methodist as well know, but also included the NCW at CNU game.
The column associated is http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071026/SPORTS0102/71026006/-1/SPORTS (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071026/SPORTS0102/71026006/-1/SPORTS) but the panel graphic isn't yet uploading to the web.

Of the 16 East Tennessee pickers 15 picked Murvul with Fitzsimmons being the only MU vote at 17-16.

For the big game: its an 8-8 split. The top three pickers, thus far, all gave the nod to Wesleyan to win at POMOCO.

On the recruiting side, several high school players have stopped by practice the last few weeks to watch during their fall breaks, which is something new in the number of different high schools. Also there are several D2 and D1 playoff guys that are looking at coming home from various schools in the region, though none are a done deal. Guess field success can translate into recruiting success.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 26, 2007, 05:02:35 PM
If you are headed to the AU, CNU, or any other game in Virginia tomorrow take rain gear and row boat. They were predicting showers today and clearing tomorrow but everyone I have talked to here in Tidewater and Danville said it has been more like Northeaster downpours all day today and tomorrow is looking the same. Sounds like runing games will get a work out tomorrow.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 26, 2007, 06:18:36 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 26, 2007, 05:02:35 PM
If you are headed to the AU, CNU, or any other game in Virginia tomorrow take rain gear and row boat. They were predicting showers today and clearing tomorrow but everyone I have talked to here in Tidewater and Danville said it has been more like Northeaster downpours all day today and tomorrow is looking the same. Sounds like runing games will get a work out tomorrow.

Which sucks!! CNU was hoping to have a near record turnout....which is over 6,000. Not gonna happen in the rain!!

I was at the VT game last night...nearly 70,000 strong in a downpour....and LOUD!!!!! What a game!! I hate the prevent D....can't figure out wht you would change from a scheme that allowed 149 yds in 56 minutes to a scheme that gives up about 170 yds in 4 minutes..."don't make no sense to me, son"

The VT fans are awesome....I was wacthing people file in......people older than me....women, men, kids......they were on their feet during the entire game (except with 11 seconds to go.....most jumping up and down when the D was on the field. When Metalica was played, the players got hyped up and the fans were so intense I thought the stadium would collapse - jumping in unison....kinda like the Cameron Crazies for Duke basketball.....only 70,000 of them!!....that was big time football (I know there is bigger)...but man, what an atmosphere!!

Oh - I was dry...skybox....fireplace...bartender...food...TV.....aaahhhhhh :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 26, 2007, 06:24:00 PM
CNU

After watching my team and a few others in college and the pro's I finally figured out what Prevent D means.. It prevents "D" team using it from winning the game. ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 26, 2007, 06:33:55 PM
True...and I heard exactly that about 15 times last night as well as some choice words for Beamer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 27, 2007, 02:57:43 AM
Its party time Captains.... This is why you came to CNU to play in games like today... I hope you guys are as pumped as I am... Get the job done and defend our home turf...The Bishops are not ready for that Pomoco SWAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.

27-17 Captains in the rain.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on October 27, 2007, 06:40:11 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 26, 2007, 06:18:36 PM


Oh - I was dry...skybox....fireplace...bartender...food...TV.....aaahhhhhh :D :D

Oh you were one of them!  :o I'll make sure to reserve one of those boxes for you at BC next weekend. Wait, we don't have any of those, we are are D3!  :D

The only time the game is held up here at BC is when we are taking Communion late and they have to delay the kickoff as a result.

Good luck today 85! Big games call for big traditions, you better swing by the Piggly Wiggly on the way in and visit Mr. Boone & a his farm. It could be all it takes to make the difference. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2007, 08:45:37 AM
ah yes, Llama....I was one of them!!

Actually, since we don't have a Piggly Wiggly down here, I'll save room for Mr. Boone next weekend. Buy an extra communion vessel. Color doesn't matter. See ya in a week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2007, 08:49:19 AM
HEY ALLSKY!!!

I sent you a PM wednesday with my cell #. Text or call me if you want updates on the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on October 27, 2007, 09:58:18 AM
NCW vs CNU ---- it all favors CNU - the field, the run game, the rain.
You all know how I ROLL NCW 27-24 GO BISHOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!
85 & 54 look for me I ' ve got on a Detroit LIONS  sweatshirt!!!!
On my way to Pomoco.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 27, 2007, 10:25:08 AM
Quote from: Smith Reed on October 27, 2007, 09:58:18 AM
NCW vs CNU ---- it all favors CNU - the field, the run game, the rain.
You all know how I ROLL NCW 27-24 GO BISHOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!
85 & 54 look for me I ' ve got on a Detroit LIONS  sweatshirt!!!!
On my way to Pomoco.


You're so right Smith!!!! Pull em through. I will be listening!  Let's just hope Townsend Holds on to the ball......Go Bishops!!!!!

Have a safe trip......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 27, 2007, 04:03:19 PM
Hornets up 42-22 4th quarter...  :o

We're not in last place!!!!

NCWC up by 3 points, 5 minutes to go...  sounds like a GREAT game being played down there by those two squads.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 27, 2007, 04:06:12 PM
NCWC:  42
CNU:  32

2:04 left in the 4th Quarter.


I hope FEMA is holding the post-game news conference ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 27, 2007, 04:43:18 PM
Congratulations NCW on your big win and becoming the 2nd team out of the USAC to win at CNU.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 27, 2007, 05:51:52 PM
Anybody heard any updates on Coach Matt Kelchner ?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 27, 2007, 05:54:32 PM
What happened to him?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 27, 2007, 06:13:30 PM
one down...2 to go...

nice win today monarchs!

congrats to ncwc, su and fc as well...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2007, 06:17:14 PM
a few things to post....but this first one is the one that really matters. Everyone say a prayer for CNU head coach Matt Kelchner. During halftime he was feeling light headed and apparantly had an elevated heart beat and/or blood pressure (not sure of all the details as I'm getting the info second and third hand). He was taken to a local hospital by ambulance.

If anyone like Riki Tiki Tavi hears anything, please let us know. This absolutely is more important than a game. Let's hope everything was precautionary and he'll be on the sidelines next Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2007, 06:23:06 PM
Now about the game....wow what a game! NCW played well and hard. CNU had 3 turnovers in the red zone and that was the major difference. Another difference in the game was 3rd down conversion.....I don't remember the final stat and can't find it on line yet, but at the end of third qt, NCW was 6-10 and CNU 2-11 on 3rd down.

Those two aspects of the game - fumbles and third down conversions were the main differences. There were others such as Townsend escaping sure sacks to run for a first down - mostly on third down!!! He's extremely athletic.

Good game to watch....CNU never gave up....even with the coach not on the sidelines in the second half
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2007, 06:26:23 PM
one last note on the game......heard this from a reliable source....Jesse Bradshaw had neck problems this week. Before the game, the doc said he needed about 3 days to get the kink out. Coach K left it up to Bradshaw if he could play....Bradshaw said he could play, but only if he lined up on the left side so he could turn his head to the right to catch the ball....he couldn't turn his head to the left.

10 catches and a CNU record 272 yards later (and 2 TD)......well...you get the picture.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2007, 06:37:17 PM
final 3rd down info

NCW 7/14
CNU 3/14......


only hope for CNU now is to win out and have NCW lose the next 2....and I can't see that happening!! NCW is too good....they have an excellent chance of first team in history to run the table in conference play!


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2007, 08:24:23 PM
Coach K is at home and ok....blood pressure was elevated...imagine that a coach with elevated blood pressure during a game.  :D

Seriously, I'm glad he's ok and at home!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2007, 08:45:17 PM
BAtteredbard, Proudscot.....

what is happening at MC? wow - that's not good stuff. I would never have thought that at any point in the season MC would have the same conference record as Shenandoah!! If MC wins out, they finish a respectable 7-3....so, I guess it's not as bad as it seems. But man, I was expecting MC to do better.

What are your thoughts, guys?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 27, 2007, 10:25:33 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 27, 2007, 08:24:23 PM
Coach K is at home and ok....blood pressure was elevated...imagine that a coach with elevated blood pressure during a game.  :D

Seriously, I'm glad he's ok and at home!!


Happy to hear he is doing well!!  Congrats to CNU for a tremendous effort today. No quit in those players, gallant effort! Just wish I could have seen it, but your radio guys did a great job!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2007, 10:29:28 PM
I'll tell them you said that. I was the third guy in the booth they kept referring to.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2007, 10:44:43 PM
scoop on Coach Kelchner

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-fairbank1028,0,4711603.column (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-fairbank1028,0,4711603.column)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2007, 10:54:59 PM
Quote from: narch on October 27, 2007, 06:13:30 PM
one down...2 to go...

nice win today monarchs!

congrats to ncwc, su and fc as well...

nicely done Narch!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 27, 2007, 11:59:10 PM
glad to hear coach k is alright...

parks had an outstanding day today going 18/28 for 353 and 4 td's...mu rb's did NOTHING, though...as a team mu had 24 carries for 17 yards....ouch - hill got just 3 carries for 4 yards - i hope he can get healthy for the final 2 games of his mu career, because the monarchs need the threat of a running game to win these last 2 games

mc was just the opposite with 3 players rushing for 100+ (they outgained mu by 158 total yards and 432 yards on the ground), but still lost

since the ncwc debacle, parks has been VERY good, going 90/140 (64.3%) for 1210 yards, 5 td's and 1 int through the air and rushing 67 times for 233 yards (3.5 ypc) and 1 td...that's almost 290 yards per game of total offense in his last 5 games...i think the monarchs have a qb who is getting it right now and some wr's that are making plays for him...there were 3 40+ yard plays in the passing game today

reading the play-by-play, i've also got to commend mu punter leigh manley...he had 6 punts today that pinned mc deep (all were inside the 12 yard line) and really allowed the monarchs to win the field position battle - here are the results of his punts today 1.) to the mc 6, fair catch 2.) to the mc 10, fair catch 3.) to the mc 8, 3yd ret 4.) to the mc 11, 1 yd ret 5.) to the mc 8, no ret 6.) to the mc 9, fair catch - he had a 41.5 average with a 40.8 net average and all were inside the 12...good day for the punter and punt coverage teams
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 28, 2007, 12:12:43 AM
congrats NCW... Ill say more tomorrow.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Black Panthers on October 28, 2007, 10:41:34 AM
I have not been able to get on here much lately for my computer crashed on me a few weeks back. But the Panthers are riding high. Who would had thought it that with two weeks left in the season that Ferrum would have a shot at the conference. I bet no one would had thought they would be in this situation right now at the start of the season. After a win against Greensboro next week will of course be a strong NCW team. Nice win to the Wesleyan boys on beating CNWHO yesterday. If somehow a gift from the football gods will give Ferrum a win Saturday They will have a shot at the who. Come on Panthers. You control your own destiny.  ;D  Not too many other teams can say that this late in the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 28, 2007, 12:45:42 PM
And I thought SU with two conference wins was impossible:  BUT THIS IS SIMPLY AMAZING. 

I ran across it on ESPN this morning, but the folks at D3 are always on point: http://www.d3football.com/notables/2007/10/27/Trinity+tops+Millsaps+with+miracle+finish (http://www.d3football.com/notables/2007/10/27/Trinity+tops+Millsaps+with+miracle+finish)

Just amazing. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 28, 2007, 02:09:15 PM
looks like the scots fans had a fun homecoming despite the loss...not a single post today...must have been a little too much homecoming 'shine flowing in the tn mountains yesterday :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 28, 2007, 02:10:34 PM
is su still running the wing t :) - on nov 10 i'd like them to go back to playing offense the way they did last year and in the early part of this season, please :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 28, 2007, 03:53:48 PM
narch....here is your post.  ;)

Congrats to the Monarchs for their W over MC yesterday. A couple of random comments in no particular order: ( I had a 5 hour ride this AM to think about it  ;D) Let me preface by saying that (as previously discussed) it is difficult to give a fair evalution after one game but here goes)

- The Scots are a good football team but they are not over the hump yet. In fairness, they are very young but they are getting there.
- These are hard to find at the D3 level but IMO, they are missing a couple big play/impact players.
- Key play #1....2nd Q late hit no call on the NE end of the field with MC up 7 to 0 and driving in the red zone. I was 15 feet from it!! Big change in MO that MU capitalized on.
- Key play #2...MU TD at the end of the first half. Ball hit MC defender in the hands and went through. MU receiver catches the deflection and scores. You must intercept that ball. Hats off to the the MU receiver for making the play.
- Key play #3...MC going for it 4th and 1 at midfield and not making it with approx 6 minutes to play up 23 to 20. Punt the ball and make MU drive the length of the field. If they do, then tip your hat and congratulate them.
-Key play #4....After MU went up 27 to 23 with under 2:00 to play. MC moves the the ball to around midfield. MC spikes the ball to stop the clock on 3rd down with 44 seconds and one timeout remaining. WHY!?!? Plenty of time to run two plays. MC looked a little disorganized trying to run the 2 minute drill. The result of youth?

     My hats off to the MC for not folding down 20 to 7 at half. I am still a proud Fighting Scot. No more talk about being 8 and 2. I'm guilty!!  :-[  6 and 3 ain't a bad record. Let's go one at a time ;D
     One last comment that I'm sure may draw some ire because it is aimed at my fellow Scots. To the several hundred (at least) tailgaters outside the fence (on Victory Hill of all places) and those still in the parking lot more worried about their next beer or getting laid...... May I suggest getting your hind ends down AROUND the field uplifting the Scots. At least in the 4th Q when the game was on the line. Many of you were former players!!  >:( Shame on you. There was a great crowd and there were MANY fans in the stadium cheering but there should have been several hundred more. GO SCOTS!!  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 28, 2007, 04:06:28 PM
The MDT package on the MC MU game
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071028/SPORTS/71028017 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071028/SPORTS/71028017)

Methodist finally stopped the run with some help from the Scots in the fourth. QB ran the wrong play on fourth down pitching the ball to a back who was blocking wide rather than handing off to the other back who had been getting seven and eight up the middle every carry the second half. Result was a fumble when the ball hit the surprised blocker.
Wall left game on last drive for a few plays and second string guy spikes the ball on first and third down misreading sideline signal from coaching stafff.

MC never stopped Parks passing. Even when they did they didn't. Sure interception at end of first half slips through safety's hands and ricochets high where the receiver grabs it out of the air with no one left between him and end zone. In any other classification, we'd be reviewing the SportsCenter commentary on that play.

What strick me was Wall hit his first four and last four passes but was 0-for-11 in between. Overthrew open guys consistently underneath in that span and was bouncing up and down in the pocket like he was jumping rope.

Last one was ierulli opened the bag of tricks with the fake field goal and the kicker sprints left gets the first and goal but fullback is called for holding far from the kicker. brings the whole thing back and the kicker is winded, upset, whatever misses badly on the field goal try barely got any leg in the kick at all.

MC has to find a way to pass. It was obvious on the last drives of second qtr and fourth qtr that they had no confidence in the passing game and little performance.

Congrats to methodist though and I hope you guys know what a great coach you have. Sypult cracks me up every time I talk to him. he's a guaranteed golden quote!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 28, 2007, 04:10:34 PM
AllSky generally I'd agree with you on the fans outside the fence, even though I know alot of them. But I give them a break this time because the stands were past capacity and from the view on top of the pressbox, I didn't see many places left around the field to stand without crowding close to the MU sideline. It looked like one of the photos from when MC used to play carson-newman.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 28, 2007, 04:52:09 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 28, 2007, 04:10:34 PM
AllSky generally I'd agree with you on the fans outside the fence, even though I know alot of them. But I give them a break this time because the stands were past capacity and from the view on top of the pressbox, I didn't see many places left around the field to stand without crowding close to the MU sideline. It looked like one of the photos from when MC used to play carson-newman.



     battered.....sorry I missed you Sat. I did look for you a few times but always got caught up talking with old teammates and friends.
     There was enough room IMO that those over the fence could have come inside. My main gripe was that most of them seemed oblivious to the fact that a game was going on. I was there before 9:00 AM to make sure I got a good tailgating spot. I like to partake of the festivities as much as anyone. Just felt like late in the game, those folks could have gotten a little more involved.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 28, 2007, 06:08:29 PM
Congrads to the MU on the win.  It is amazing that they were overcome a team running for 450 yards against them.  Yes MC is relatively young, but we can't use that as a crutch to lean on.  I know coach I won't let them use that excuse.  Batteredbard, do you know why the second team QB was in with under a minute left to go in the game?  It was great to see the Scots come back.  Their running game looked great!  The turnout was pretty good for homecoming.  It was great to get to see a lot of old friends.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Old Ref on October 28, 2007, 06:28:50 PM
I would like to express my appreciation to all and to inform you that I will be leaving this board as a member. I appreciate Division III football and especially the players who give so much of themselves to the game. Although my time has been primarily in Div.1 and High School, I must say that D-III is the one I enjoy watching the most. It offers to kids across the nation, who may not have quite the size or talent to play at a Div.1 level, the opportunity to expand their dreams and ambitions, to participate at the next level. It is real football!! My reasons for leaving has nothing to do with you guys or your comments, but rather to participate in a committee to improve the game and officiating. Who knows, maybe it can also improve Div III. Men, it has been a pleasure and I wish the best of luck to you and your team for the remainder of the season. Pat, I must say to you, Thanks for all you do to publicize D-III Football. I will be watching and observing this board, simply because I love it.   :) :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 28, 2007, 07:01:12 PM
You will be missed Old Ref!  Good luck with the committee.
Title: CNU
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 28, 2007, 10:07:39 PM
I came down hard on the team a few weeks ago for a sloppy win and another fan stated that "a win is a win". Well if you continue to play that way and win then eventually it will come back to bite you. Turnovers in the red zone killed us and I don't know where the DC came from but this year D is by far the worst in CNU history.

I am not trying to kick the team while they are down by no means. I was at the game and the old players gave them our all in the stands and before they took the field.  Being a guy that played defense at cnu and being a guy that played on many offensively challenged teams, 32 points in a conference game at home on freaking homecoming is more than enough to win a ball game. It's frustrating to see a guy like Matt Long, arguably the best playmaker on defense on the bench and then only after we give up a 35 yard pass play does he get put in.

People may get tired of me referencing CNU's brief past but our defense had a certain arrogance and determination to be the best and it's disappointing because I just don't see it with these guys. To put the 42 points into perspective last years team gave up 31 points in the first half to Averett in their conference showdown. Those guys came out 2nd half with that CNU defensive pride and shut AU out because they were determined to win that game. I know a poster told me before on here that I should be happy with our success in the past. But I AM SORRY I HATED LOSING THEN AND I HATE IT EVEN MORE THAT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

Good luck the rest of the way Captains finish up the season strong.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 29, 2007, 10:05:41 AM
I'm glad to see the CNU coach is fine and well. Some things are just more important than a win/loss for a football team. I'm sure it had to be scary for his wife and kids.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 29, 2007, 12:44:59 PM
Quote from: narch on October 28, 2007, 02:10:34 PM
is su still running the wing t :) - on nov 10 i'd like them to go back to playing offense the way they did last year and in the early part of this season, please :)

Congrats to SU on their win over AU. I honestly can't figure out why they haven't won more games this year. They have a good back that is hard to bring down and the defense looked very good.

Didn't see much wing T. More passing than expected. Lots of power running out of the I.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2007, 02:28:24 PM
bard - i like this headline..."Lowly Monarchs enact Scots' alumni affair jinx"...maybe it will provide some fodder for the monarchs to win out and carry that momentum into next season and show everyone just how "lowly" they are - i'm sure you didn't mean it to sound disrespectful of a methodist team which has been unable to make the one or two plays each game it takes to win close games for most of the season (until saturday), but something about seeing the word "lowly" attached to the monarchs just strikes me that way...

they were interesting articles and both provided a great account of the game - some of it was a bit hard to read...especially the parts written in whinese (which frequently uses words like "fluke", "jinx" and "luck" and phrases like "they didn't win, we lost")

in all seriousness, though, you guys really cover m'ville well...i wish mu could get 1/10 the press that the scots do, but with 2 local d2 programs and a soon-to-be 1aa (non-scholarship) program, i think the monarchs will have to make due with what they've got - keep up the great work!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 29, 2007, 03:57:59 PM
Yeah well you didn't expect him to rip a 4 point loss now did ya?   ;D  I'll give it to Methodist they won, but anytime a team rushes for 450 yards you expect that team to win.  I still think if we played Methodist 10 times we would win 9 of them, but I am a fan so I will be just a tad biast.  It seemed like Maryville was a more physical team than Methodist, our secondary just didn't come up big when we needed them.  Oh well, on to the next week...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 29, 2007, 04:31:42 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 10, 2007, 10:49:02 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 10, 2007, 10:38:59 PM
En-You were are you, I am out numbered  here and everyone is guning for us, even though we are the worst team in the conference.
Not so fast Kickerdad...  it's kinda like the CNU-NCWC debate: Until you knock SU off for last place, we hold the crown.  Until you've put in the time with 9 straight losses and a 4-21 record, you can't touch SU's firm hold on last place...  it's kind of like a dynasty.  ;D ;D ;D



I guess we knocked you off the top (or should I say bottom) of the hill.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 29, 2007, 06:58:03 PM
never thought the dynasty would end..   lol    ;)


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 29, 2007, 07:02:41 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 29, 2007, 12:44:59 PM
Congrats to SU on their win over AU.

Thanks for the love kickerdad. Hang in there.

Quote from: kickerdad on October 29, 2007, 12:44:59 PM
I honestly can't figure out why they haven't won more games this year. They have a good back that is hard to bring down and the defense looked very good.

Didn't see much wing T. More passing than expected. Lots of power running out of the I.

Too little, too late. We should have made the adjustments after, say...  the second play of the Catholic game...  the D's worked hard all year long - but you can only be out there but for so long.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 29, 2007, 07:14:59 PM
Quote from: narch on October 29, 2007, 02:28:24 PM

they were interesting articles and both provided a great account of the game - some of it was a bit hard to read...especially the parts written in whinese (which frequently uses words like "fluke", "jinx" and "luck" and phrases like "they didn't win, we lost")

which is not to be confused with Greensboroese.  (the deadly 1-2-3 combo of whinese, a slight misuse of the english language, and interesting formulas predicting the outcome of what has already happened)   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 29, 2007, 09:35:21 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 29, 2007, 07:14:59 PM
Quote from: narch on October 29, 2007, 02:28:24 PM

they were interesting articles and both provided a great account of the game - some of it was a bit hard to read...especially the parts written in whinese (which frequently uses words like "fluke", "jinx" and "luck" and phrases like "they didn't win, we lost")

which is not to be confused with Greensboroese.  (the deadly 1-2-3 combo of whinese, a slight misuse of the english language, and interesting formulas predicting the outcome of what has already happened)   ;D

HAHAHAHA :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 29, 2007, 11:23:20 PM
there's plenty of misuse of the english language on this board....even this page of posts...it makes me cringe knowing that the language is coming from college grads!


Maybe I'm cranky 'cuz CNU lost....perhaps I should just say "congrads" to NCW and not be so "biast"

dang....that sounds like a Narch-like post!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 29, 2007, 11:54:55 PM
85 - Nice to see we've all managed to emerge relatively unscathed from the higher education system...   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 30, 2007, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: narch on October 29, 2007, 02:28:24 PM
bard - i like this headline..."Lowly Monarchs enact Scots? alumni affair jinx"...maybe it will provide some fodder for the monarchs to win out and carry that momentum into next season and show everyone just how "lowly" they are - i'm sure you didn't mean it to sound disrespectful of a methodist team which has been unable to make the one or two plays each game it takes to win close games for most of the season (until saturday), but something about seeing the word "lowly" attached to the monarchs just strikes me that way...

they were interesting articles and both provided a great account of the game - some of it was a bit hard to read...especially the parts written in whinese (which frequently uses words like "fluke", "jinx" and "luck" and phrases like "they didn't win, we lost")

in all seriousness, though, you guys really cover m'ville well...i wish mu could get 1/10 the press that the scots do, but with 2 local d2 programs and a soon-to-be 1aa (non-scholarship) program, i think the monarchs will have to make due with what they've got - keep up the great work!

Ok, I don't get to write the headlines so I can't claim the discredit for "lowly" or "jinx". (Though our copy desk does great stuff they occasionally have issues with new people too.) "Fluke" I will claim as mine, think it was pretty accurate of the play. It was a great recovery catch by the MU frosh to get that ball but 99 times out of 100 the safety bats it the other way, picks it off or it goes out of reach of bouncing twice and ending up in his hands. Though I did say it was the best play to not make SportsCenter Saturday  — even encouraged MU to send the video of the play to them)  8)

We're really trying to cover the enture USAC as much as possible for football and the GSAC for basketball and baseball. So thanks for the kudos. Hopefully when our website upgrades we can become a real region news resource for D3.

Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 28, 2007, 06:08:29 PM
Congrads to the MU on the win.  It is amazing that they were overcome a team running for 450 yards against them.  Yes MC is relatively young, but we can't use that as a crutch to lean on.  I know coach I won't let them use that excuse.  Batteredbard, do you know why the second team QB was in with under a minute left to go in the game?  It was great to see the Scots come back.  Their running game looked great!  The turnout was pretty good for homecoming.  It was great to get to see a lot of old friends.

Wall had a stinger or pad problem with his shoulder and had to have it readjusted. If I noted it right he came out after the fourth down conversion pass and reentered at fourth and 2. But he may have been in for the spike on first down, not sure on it.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 30, 2007, 05:58:18 PM
Didn't forget you allsky, I can see your point about the lack of game involvement behind the fence. And maybe some of those folks get more involved sitting in the stands even if paying attention only now and then from the social scene.

makes me wonder how much they could do for the stadium if they adopted the strip club stratgey of letting fans buy passes for your beer to come into the stadium. say $20 a six pack, would cover higher insurance rates, p[rovide some spending money and get a lot more folks in the gate. (And before the busting begins, yes I've been but for better or worse its been about 10 years now since a spate of bachelor parties made an establishment a stop. Guess I've gotten older. ::))

SU is my only sit at home Saturday this year so I'll miss seeing the Hornets facilities this fall. But they've already supassed my preseason expectations thinking one nonconf win and the win over Averett. If they let the ball fly MC could be in trouble on the road with a secondary thats just been battered that badly.
Stats say its the best thing to do against Scots. Run defense MC is best in conference given up 958 yards or 119 a game, against the pass they are the worst giving up 1753 after Saturday or 219 a game.

Can the new SU qb throw?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 30, 2007, 07:45:33 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 30, 2007, 05:58:18 PM
Can the new SU qb throw?

I'd like to know the answer to that question myself... 

In all fairness to SU, they played a pretty tough schedule so far this year:

Bridgewater (looks to be 8-2)
Albright (playing for their conference title)
CNU (the hated Captains... ;D)
NCWC  (now receiving votes...)

Hope to see the guys finish strong. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on October 30, 2007, 07:50:09 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 30, 2007, 05:58:18 PM
makes me wonder how much they could do for the stadium if they adopted the strip club stratgey of letting fans buy passes for your beer to come into the stadium.

I'd like to make a motion that Batteredbard immediately becomes the new USASAC Commissioner. 


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 30, 2007, 09:28:41 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 30, 2007, 07:45:33 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 30, 2007, 05:58:18 PM
Can the new SU qb throw?

I'd like to know the answer to that question myself... 

In all fairness to SU, they played a pretty tough schedule so far this year:

Bridgewater (looks to be 8-2)
Albright (playing for their conference title)

CNU (the hated Captains... ;D)
NCWC  (now receiving votes...)

Hope to see the guys finish strong. 

What times he threw against AU, he looked good. He did a fair job of scrambling when he had to, as well. The line did a good job protecting as well. Now remember they were
playing Averett who hasn't won a game and has nothing to brag about. We do have a good pass rusher in Jason Hill and they kept him in check all day.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 30, 2007, 10:30:35 PM
Quote from: SU97 on October 30, 2007, 07:50:09 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 30, 2007, 05:58:18 PM
makes me wonder how much they could do for the stadium if they adopted the strip club stratgey of letting fans buy passes for your beer to come into the stadium.

I'd like to make a motion that Batteredbard immediately becomes the new USASAC Commissioner. 




He has my vote...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 30, 2007, 10:49:29 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 30, 2007, 05:58:18 PM
If they (SU) let the ball fly MC could be in trouble on the road with a secondary thats just been battered that badly.
Can the new SU qb throw?

SU to "let the ball fly." Yeah that will be the day. I think the percentages are better for the Redskins to win the Super Bowl this year than for SU to pass on a consistent basis.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: powerslant/2 on October 30, 2007, 11:25:17 PM
I admitt I have been spectical all season long  about CNU chances of winning the conference title out right.  Going on the results of the game against NCWC last year.  Congrats to NCWC, but over the past 7 years I learn to equate D3FB officiating to the same as officiating JV basketball. Inadquated indecisions, when a 170lb QB takes the  snap and takes two steps and stand straight up for no gain and gets a full yard on the spot no wounder the athletes are better than the officiating. :o ::) :-X
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 30, 2007, 11:39:52 PM
Lunsford, has not done a terrible job as the new QB but lets face it he has not lit the house on fire as well. In 3 games he is 17-41 and has 4 INT's and no passing TD's. Having a tough schedule I'm sorry. I just don't buy into that excuse. Besides Albright they have the same schedule year in year out pretty much. They have beat Greensboro, a team they have now beat 2 years in a row and Averett who is in a slide. Not exactly jaw dropping victories. I think this Saturday will be a hard one for the Hornets to win. Is it winnable for them? Yes, but I wont be surprised if they lose either. Next week could go either way as well. Is SU the worst USAC team this year? No, but they are a long way from challenging any of the top teams. Especially with the style they play. Winning by the large margins that they have beat GC and AU by is great. But if they are down by 10 points with less than 10 minutes left in the game its very hard for them to come back and win a game. Unless they get some major recruiting going on this fall and winter I  fear they are going to have a very similar experience next year as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC DAD on October 31, 2007, 10:49:24 AM
Quote from: powerslant/2 on October 30, 2007, 11:25:17 PM
I admitt I have been spectical all season long  about CNU chances of winning the conference title out right.  Going on the results of the game against NCWC last year.  Congrats to NCWC, but over the past 7 years I learn to equate D3FB officiating to the same as officiating JV basketball. Inadquated indecisions, when a 170lb QB takes the  snap and takes two steps and stand straight up for no gain and gets a full yard on the spot no wounder the athletes are better than the officiating. :o ::) :-X
One thing I think you forgot to mention....the QB is 6'5 taking 2 steps to his left where two OL weighing 250 and 275 are blocking. If they didn't get 3 inches then how was the game so close to begin with?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 31, 2007, 11:29:57 AM
Quote from: powerslant/2 on October 30, 2007, 11:25:17 PM
I admitt I have been spectical all season long  about CNU chances of winning the conference title out right. 
i'm trying to figure out what a pair of glasses has to do with cnu's chances of winning :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2007, 11:34:00 AM
Quote from: narch on October 31, 2007, 11:29:57 AM
Quote from: powerslant/2 on October 30, 2007, 11:25:17 PM
I admitt I have been spectical all season long  about CNU chances of winning the conference title out right.
i'm trying to figure out what a pair of glasses has to do with cnu's chances of winning :)
Dyslexics of the world untie!   :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 31, 2007, 11:59:32 AM
Quote from: narch on October 31, 2007, 11:29:57 AM
Quote from: powerslant/2 on October 30, 2007, 11:25:17 PM
I admitt I have been spectical all season long  about CNU chances of winning the conference title out right. 
i'm trying to figure out what a pair of glasses has to do with cnu's chances of winning :)

If I didn't know better - I woulda thought it was PSBBG!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 31, 2007, 02:21:18 PM
If there are any errors in this week's ATR story about the CNU/NCW game - it's the editor's fault!!!  :D :D :D

Seriously though, thanks go out to Ryan Tipps for allowing me to put down a few notes on the game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 31, 2007, 02:56:18 PM
Congratulations to SU's defensive back Jason Crew who was named to the D3football.com Team of the Week. He had six tackles and two interceptions. Go Hornets
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 31, 2007, 03:01:31 PM
I saw the weekly awards that the USA South gave out and just a thought about the defensive player of the week from Methodist... isn't it bad when the Safety is making most of the tackles???  Also, I don't think he was the one w/ the interception.  Still no knock against him.  Just a thought, I know my coach always said if the DB's are making most of the tackles then the line and linebackers aren't doing their jobs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 31, 2007, 10:20:15 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 31, 2007, 03:01:31 PM
I saw the weekly awards that the USA South gave out and just a thought about the defensive player of the week from Methodist... isn't it bad when the Safety is making most of the tackles???  Also, I don't think he was the one w/ the interception.  Still no knock against him.  Just a thought, I know my coach always said if the DB's are making most of the tackles then the line and linebackers aren't doing their jobs.
more whinese...does m'ville offer a masters in that language :)

seriously, though, i'd be willing to bet that king played most of the game lined up more like a lb than a safety...that's how he's been lined up most of the time when the monarchs have played at home this season and i can't imagine it would be different against a team that was shoving the ball down the monarchs throat - i do agree with your line about db's making a lot of tackles, especially when a team isn't throwing the ball a lot, but if a fs is lined up 5-7 yards off the ball, he's really playing lb even if his official position is as a fs - regarding the int, i haven't seen the tape, but i know the coaches have...typically if a kid isn't the one who made an interception, they would have changed that box score by now... they haven't, which leads me to believe that he is, indeed, the one who made the interception

looking at the other candidates, this looks like it was a tough week to pick - 18 tackles sure does stand out, but the de from ferrum (green) had 3 tfl's and 2 sacks among his 10 tackles and the crew kid from su had 2 picks, one of which was a pick 6...tough decisions...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 31, 2007, 11:04:48 PM
Quote from: narch on October 31, 2007, 10:20:15 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 31, 2007, 03:01:31 PM
I saw the weekly awards that the USA South gave out and just a thought about the defensive player of the week from Methodist... isn't it bad when the Safety is making most of the tackles???  Also, I don't think he was the one w/ the interception.  Still no knock against him.  Just a thought, I know my coach always said if the DB's are making most of the tackles then the line and linebackers aren't doing their jobs.
more whinese...does m'ville offer a masters in that language :)

seriously, though, i'd be willing to bet that king played most of the game lined up more like a lb than a safety...that's how he's been lined up most of the time when the monarchs have played at home this season and i can't imagine it would be different against a team that was shoving the ball down the monarchs throat - i do agree with your line about db's making a lot of tackles, especially when a team isn't throwing the ball a lot, but if a fs is lined up 5-7 yards off the ball, he's really playing lb even if his official position is as a fs - regarding the int, i haven't seen the tape, but i know the coaches have...typically if a kid isn't the one who made an interception, they would have changed that box score by now... they haven't, which leads me to believe that he is, indeed, the one who made the interception

looking at the other candidates, this looks like it was a tough week to pick - 18 tackles sure does stand out, but the de from ferrum (green) had 3 tfl's and 2 sacks among his 10 tackles and the crew kid from su had 2 picks, one of which was a pick 6...tough decisions...

Yeah like I said not a knock on the kid b/c no matter how you cut it 18 tackles is one heck of a day.  It was just a general comment not directed at a particular team/player.  I do know especially by the 4th quarter, Methodist had 8 in the box and you could count 9 really b/c MU had the safety really close.  Either way good for him for the good game.  On the Shenandoah... GO Scots!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 01, 2007, 10:12:20 PM
wow...quiet day...too bad the gc boys weren't posting still...we could get into it a bit about the upcoming game :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 01, 2007, 10:24:29 PM
All I know is that it is kinda depressing that there are only 2 games left in the regular season... :(  Sniff Sniff...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 01, 2007, 10:30:32 PM
Been a little busy.

But Greensboro played well enough last week to win and didn't so I am sure they will win this week.

Roll Pride Destroy the Monarchs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 01, 2007, 10:52:35 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 01, 2007, 10:30:32 PMRoll Pride Destroy the Monarchs!
stranger things could happen...but not many :)

glad to see you flying the gc flag, mosh
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 02, 2007, 06:03:40 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 01, 2007, 10:24:29 PM
All I know is that it is kinda depressing that there are only 2 games left in the regular season... :(  Sniff Sniff...

     Seems like you wait with such anticipation for football season to arrive and it's gone just like that.   :'( Just something about a fall Saturday afternoon. Just doesn't get any better than that.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 02, 2007, 08:28:37 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on November 02, 2007, 06:03:40 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 01, 2007, 10:24:29 PM
All I know is that it is kinda depressing that there are only 2 games left in the regular season... :(  Sniff Sniff...

     Seems like you wait with such anticipation for football season to arrive and it's gone just like that.   :'( Just something about a fall Saturday afternoon. Just doesn't get any better than that.  8)

Especially at Honaker Field... ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 02, 2007, 11:25:02 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on November 02, 2007, 06:03:40 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 01, 2007, 10:24:29 PM
All I know is that it is kinda depressing that there are only 2 games left in the regular season... :(  Sniff Sniff...

     Seems like you wait with such anticipation for football season to arrive and it's gone just like that.   :'( Just something about a fall Saturday afternoon. Just doesn't get any better than that.  8)

I think all this hot weather we've had with only one weekend of real fall weather has made it seem like we haven't had a real season. Trying to find a shade tree and getting sun burned beyond belief is not what I call having fun at a football game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on November 02, 2007, 05:05:13 PM
Amen and pass the aloe. ;D
What was that first game in October 90 something degrees?

I'm waiting to see if its spin that SU might take a MU pass approach to the Scots ... that would shock the world! Especially if it worked.

So are we at group consensus that NCW looks to cruise to the first outright title (how is it that CNU never did that?) Do they have any first round hope? The conference is down but seems like they have the firepower to play now and the confidence to use it they were missing in losing those early two games.
(Oh wait might that kinx NCW, oh no, heavan forbid  ::))
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on November 02, 2007, 05:23:03 PM
Best game in the conference tomorrow NCW vs Ferrum!!!!!
Hey, Ryan will you be there? The Bishops should eek out a
victory by a 35-20 score. Ferrum can play loose because they
are the surprise team of the season. Should be a good one
GO BISHOPS!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 02, 2007, 07:15:33 PM
Good luck to the Captains this week. Bounce back against the Cougars and play hard and improve in your last 2 games. Hey, you never know what might happen the next two weeks thus the reason why they play the games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 02, 2007, 08:55:22 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on November 02, 2007, 06:03:40 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 01, 2007, 10:24:29 PM
All I know is that it is kinda depressing that there are only 2 games left in the regular season... :(  Sniff Sniff...

     Seems like you wait with such anticipation for football season to arrive and it's gone just like that.   :'( Just something about a fall Saturday afternoon. Just doesn't get any better than that.  8)

throw in a conference loss for the last home game and ouch that hurts. But I'm still rooting the boys on (even though I'm headed to the BC/RMC game tomorrow).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnuchampion on November 03, 2007, 12:09:05 AM
Maybe its just me but I don't think the USAC is any weaker than it has been in recent years...

NCWC seems to be hitting their stride now...I wonder what would happen if they had an opportunity to play some of those out of conference games now?

CNU is CNU and seems destined to lose a game in conference no matter how good or bad the team is playing.

Ferrum is playing pretty impressively although they must now go through the top two teams in the conference.

Methodist and Maryville are both solid teams. Both have a lot of growing up to do and could venture to be some tough opponents for everyone in a very short period of time.

Shenandoah, Greensboro, and Averett are bringing up the rear, but we always have had teams doing that in the USAC...do I need to remind everyone of Chowan and how awful they were?

My point here is that that I think that there could be a strong arguement for a 2nd qualifier from the conference, especially if the ODAC teams continue to beat each other down. I am not saying that the conference deserves a 2nd team in the dance but just some words of wisdom to CNU and the loser of the NCWC and Ferrum game to finish strong because you never know what could happen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2007, 05:59:53 AM
spoken like a true, die-hard fan whose team has practically zero chance of the playoffs.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2007, 08:01:26 AM
pre-game story (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=276753) from the fayetteville observer...and here is a game capsule

Methodist (2-3, 2-6 USA South)

Schedule: at Greensboro (2-6, 1-4), 7 p.m.

X's and O's: The Pride plays its home games at Grimsley High School. Methodist's defense couldn't defend the pass when the season started, but of late it can't stop the run. Three Maryville backs rushed for more than 100 yards last Saturday, but the Monarchs got four TD passes from Brandon Parks to spoil the Fighting Scots' homecoming. Greensboro, on the other hand, can't run the ball, averaging only 77 yards per game, or barely half of what the Monarchs amass.
Scouting report: It should be a good duel between Parks, the league's top thrower at 210 yards per game, against a Pride pass defense that's No. 1 in the league. Parks may have the edge, though, as the Monarchs are tied for first with Ferrum in giving up the fewest sacks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 03, 2007, 01:15:47 PM
7-0 Maryville 8:33 in the 1st
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 03, 2007, 01:30:01 PM
7-7 still in the 1st
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 03, 2007, 02:05:13 PM
14-7 Maryville 1:06 left in the 2nd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 03, 2007, 02:10:15 PM
14-7 Maryville at Halftime... ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 03, 2007, 02:39:01 PM
21-7 Maryville in the 3rd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 03, 2007, 03:00:35 PM
21-7 Maryville start of the 4th quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2007, 03:04:23 PM
monarchs will win 27 - 17 tonight...go monarchs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 03, 2007, 03:12:03 PM
21-10 Maryville  10 minutes left in the 4th
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 03, 2007, 04:00:02 PM
Maryville wins 21-10
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnuchampion on November 03, 2007, 06:26:50 PM
I guess one could say it is my only glimmer of hope but I really do believe the top of our conference is not getting any respect...if you look at the teams that NCWC, CNU, and Ferrum have all lost to pretty good teams (#8 Wesley, Widener who lost to Wesley and Rowan who CNU beat, #6 UMHB whose only loss is to #2 UW-Whitewater, #11 Salisbury whose only loss is to Wesley, and early season losses before Ferrum got it together to Bridgewater and Emory & Henry who play in the always highly competitive ODAC).

I'm just saying there is a chance. Or at least some consideration that should be given
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 03, 2007, 06:29:47 PM
  WOW! I just looked at the score of the NCW game and it was NCW 24-17 over Ferrum. NCW was scoring like crazy all season long. That had to be a great game to watch and a nail biter for the NCW fans. Ferrum's coach I would say has to be in the running for coach of the year in the USAC. I'm sure no one predicted them to have as good of a season as they have been having. I'm curious to see how they match up against CNU next week now.                    
 Congratulations to NCW on another victory also.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 03, 2007, 07:55:13 PM
Quote from: cnuchampion on November 03, 2007, 06:26:50 PM
Quote from: cnuchampion on November 03, 2007, 12:09:05 AM
My point here is that that I think that there could be a strong arguement for a 2nd qualifier from the conference.
I'm just saying there is a chance. Or at least some consideration that should be given
While one could argue that CNU should get in the playoffs. I think it would just be pretty much impossible for them to get in with 3 losses. Not enough playoff spots to go around and way too many teams with 2 losses hoping to get in as well. Its not a disrespect to CNU or its fans. Its just the NCAA has not expanded enough in D3 playoffs I have felt over the years to add a team like the Captains.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2007, 07:59:42 PM
not sure when, if ever, a 3 in region loss team received an at large bid to playoffs. just not gonna happen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 03, 2007, 08:00:50 PM
Anyone got a score for the Greensboro/Methodist game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2007, 08:15:06 PM
I tried getting the radio/web broadcast.....but the link on MUs page says "click here for live football"....then when I click I get  a page that says...."come back at game time"......huh? Whatsup with that?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2007, 08:17:17 PM
Big congrats to NCW on the conference championship. One more win and you've done what no other conference team has ever done....run the table in conference play. Nicely done.

Ferrum seems to be a very tough team. CNU better be ready to play one more game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2007, 08:33:28 PM
wow...just peeked at box score for CNU game. TOP was 45 to 15 and AU had the ball for 34 seconds in the third qt!!!!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2007, 09:06:39 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 03, 2007, 08:00:50 PM
Anyone got a score for the Greensboro/Methodist game?
13-7 mu, just under 10 minutes left in the 4th - mu just got a 1st down inside the gc 35, but doleman fumbled - pride offense is driving and now on the mu 29
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2007, 09:16:25 PM
85...go to the gc page to get the broadcast if you're still looking for it

monarchs held gc on 4th and 8 after a couple of gc penalties stalled the drive - the monarchs are driving, but just had a holding penalty of their own and then got sacked on 2nd and 13...gonna be 3rd and 18 with under 6 minutes to play...parks is sacked on 4th down, as well - clock running and under 5 minutes - mu gets a solid punt, gc will have the ball at the gc 25 with 4:34 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2007, 09:20:32 PM
gc really drove the ball last posession by running the ball then stalled out when they decided to throw the ball...starting this drive with an empty backfield...i think they're really playing to the relative strength of the mu defense right now - with 4:34 left i think i'd be running it against the monarchs...and they're now in a 3rd and 14 situation with 3:18 remaining...an incomplete pass on 3rd and 14...gc will go for it...this is the game if they don't pick up the first...incomplete - sounds like lowe had it, but dropped it...monarchs should be able to salt this away with 2 and change left...monarchs at the gc 12 with 2nd and 2...3rd and 1 with around 1:10 left...if the monarchs don't get a 1st down but can kick a fg, should be game over...parks kept the ball on 3rd down and they'll measure...gc announcer seems to think mu will go for it on 4th if they're short...he's nuts...parks got the first and mu will go into victory formation with 38 seconds left - barring a gc miracle, that makes 2 down and one to go to finish on a 3 game win streak...the hornets are on the clock!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2007, 09:31:01 PM
thanks narch
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on November 03, 2007, 09:41:28 PM
FYI...

I was told today that Wilkes will play Christopher Newport in 2008 and 2009 with the Captains coming north next year and the Colonels returning the favor in 2009.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2007, 10:12:46 PM
looks like mularski performed his best torrey lowe impression today - 2 rushes for 32 yards, 1-1 passing for 35 yards and 5 catches for 34 yards - not a bad day...101 yards on 8 touches

other than that, nothing spectacular from the other monarchs - hill was back today, rushing 17 times for 68 yds and a td - mcguire had a solid day running the ball, as well gaining 57 yards on 12 carries and added a td of his own - parks had a mistake free 10-16 day for 70 yards...and didn't run the ball once per the box score

gc blocked 2 fg's, or the score would have been more lopsided

the monarch defense held gc to just 238 yards, and held lowe to 70 yards (50 rushing, 20 receiving) on 18 touches - gc did shoot themselves in the foot with 10 penalties for 77 yards

box score here (http://www.gborocollege.edu/athletics/sports/FOOTBALL/2007/gc1103.htm#GAME.TEM)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2007, 10:20:59 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on November 03, 2007, 09:41:28 PM
FYI...

I was told today that Wilkes will play Christopher Newport in 2008 and 2009 with the Captains coming north next year and the Colonels returning the favor in 2009.

Interesting. I was wondering who would replace UMHB on the CNU schedule.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 03, 2007, 10:34:03 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 03, 2007, 10:20:59 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on November 03, 2007, 09:41:28 PM
FYI...

I was told today that Wilkes will play Christopher Newport in 2008 and 2009 with the Captains coming north next year and the Colonels returning the favor in 2009.

Interesting. I was wondering who would replace UMHB on the CNU schedule.
Quality opponent and a non-in-region game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on November 03, 2007, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 03, 2007, 10:34:03 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 03, 2007, 10:20:59 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on November 03, 2007, 09:41:28 PM
FYI...

I was told today that Wilkes will play Christopher Newport in 2008 and 2009 with the Captains coming north next year and the Colonels returning the favor in 2009.

Interesting. I was wondering who would replace UMHB on the CNU schedule.
Quality opponent and a non-in-region game.

Now for the $60 question....who did CNU get to open with or are they still going to play Rowan??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 03, 2007, 11:51:09 PM
It was mentioned two weeks ago on the Wesley pregameradio show that Wesley was in discussions with  CNU as well as Ithaca as possible opponents..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on November 05, 2007, 01:17:04 PM
Narch- Whats the word man for the weekend. I am bringing some players down and coming to the game. I will be there probably around like 9 or so and take them to do the whole recruiting thing, and then im going to tailgate. Maybe i will see ya there
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2007, 03:29:00 PM
This is weird - there hasn't been but one post on here since Saturday night. There is still one week left in the season but it appears that everyone has packed up and either gone to the ODAC board or Basketball board. There is some good games left to be played this final week.

Hum......let see if I can start something............ ;) ::)

Averett is going to pull an upset in TN this week against the Scots :D
(That ought to get someone fired up)

On a serious note - from what I have observed from watching both CNU and Ferrum play against Averett this year; CNU better have their act together agains Ferrum. In my opinion this would be the game to watch this week. Two hard hitting lines going head to toe, and both teams capable of running and passing the ball. Ferrum defenders better watch number 3. He is everywhere and being that he is a head shorter than the rest of the team, he seems to get lost in the crowd and finds the opening everytime.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BillTheGrunt on November 05, 2007, 03:56:08 PM
I was away on vacation for the Shenandoah-Maryville game (mercifully), so I'm hoping someone can explain the coaching rationale behind this decision (if it actually took place);

Fourth quarter, and SU trails 21-7. With about 10 minutes to go, SU recovers a fumble deep in Maryville territory. On 4th and 5, from the Maryville 13, trailing 21-7 with about 9 minutes to go, SU kicks a field goal???

Am I wrong or is this a sign of a team (or a coach) that's simply given up?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 05, 2007, 04:20:29 PM
Quote from: BillTheGrunt on November 05, 2007, 03:56:08 PM
I was away on vacation for the Shenandoah-Maryville game (mercifully), so I'm hoping someone can explain the coaching rationale behind this decision (if it actually took place);

Fourth quarter, and SU trails 21-7. With about 10 minutes to go, SU recovers a fumble deep in Maryville territory. On 4th and 5, from the Maryville 13, trailing 21-7 with about 9 minutes to go, SU kicks a field goal???

Am I wrong or is this a sign of a team (or a coach) that's simply given up?

Most likely he was hoping to stop Maryville on the next possession and get a quick score so they would only be down 4.  Then with another 3 and out they would be in position to make a game winning drive.  10 Minutes is still pleanty of time to get 2 scores.  I wouldn't say it was giving up.  He was just hoping his Defense could hold and they could put 2 scoring drives together at the end of the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 05, 2007, 04:23:39 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 05, 2007, 03:29:00 PM
This is weird - there hasn't been but one post on here since Saturday night. There is still one week left in the season but it appears that everyone has packed up and either gone to the ODAC board or Basketball board. There is some good games left to be played this final week.

Hum......let see if I can start something............ ;) ::)

Averett is going to pull an upset in TN this week against the Scots :D
(That ought to get someone fired up)

On a serious note - from what I have observed from watching both CNU and Ferrum play against Averett this year; CNU better have their act together agains Ferrum. In my opinion this would be the game to watch this week. Two hard hitting lines going head to toe, and both teams capable of running and passing the ball. Ferrum defenders better watch number 3. He is everywhere and being that he is a head shorter than the rest of the team, he seems to get lost in the crowd and finds the opening everytime.

Yeah right.  Averett just better get ready for an 0-10 season.  We had one of those a few years back and believe me it sucks.  Maryville will want to put it on Averett this year after last year's game.  Payback's coming Averett, just get ready for it  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 05, 2007, 04:26:41 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 05, 2007, 03:29:00 PM

On a serious note - from what I have observed from watching both CNU and Ferrum play against Averett this year; CNU better have their act together agains Ferrum. In my opinion this would be the game to watch this week. Two hard hitting lines going head to toe, and both teams capable of running and passing the ball. Ferrum defenders better watch number 3. He is everywhere and being that he is a head shorter than the rest of the team, he seems to get lost in the crowd and finds the opening everytime.

I definately think Ferrum can pull this one out.  They have only gotten better as the season went on.  With what they did against NCWC plus how tough they played Maryville, I believe they will pull off the upset.  This should be a great game without a doubt!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 05, 2007, 04:38:57 PM
Quote from: BillTheGrunt on November 05, 2007, 03:56:08 PM
I was away on vacation for the Shenandoah-Maryville game (mercifully), so I'm hoping someone can explain the coaching rationale behind this decision (if it actually took place);
Fourth quarter, and SU trails 21-7. With about 10 minutes to go, SU recovers a fumble deep in Maryville territory. On 4th and 5, from the Maryville 13, trailing 21-7 with about 9 minutes to go, SU kicks a field goal???
Am I wrong or is this a sign of a team (or a coach) that's simply given up?

   I have not been shy as we all know about questioning Coach Barnes' play calling at times over the years but this call while I did not like it I can understand it. Kicking a field goal made it 21-10. If the defense would had been able to stop Maryville and been able to score a TD it would of had a chance to pull with in 3 points with a 2 point conversion. SU's kicker had been pretty good all season long so I guess Barnes was hoping for that. I would had liked to had seen SU try for a on side kick after the field goal. But would of, could of, should of's has been what SU fans have been dealing with for the past 3 years now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 05, 2007, 04:45:31 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on November 05, 2007, 04:38:57 PM
Quote from: BillTheGrunt on November 05, 2007, 03:56:08 PM
I was away on vacation for the Shenandoah-Maryville game (mercifully), so I'm hoping someone can explain the coaching rationale behind this decision (if it actually took place);
Fourth quarter, and SU trails 21-7. With about 10 minutes to go, SU recovers a fumble deep in Maryville territory. On 4th and 5, from the Maryville 13, trailing 21-7 with about 9 minutes to go, SU kicks a field goal???
Am I wrong or is this a sign of a team (or a coach) that's simply given up?

   I have not been shy as we all know about questioning Coach Barnes' play calling at times over the years but this call while I did not like it I can understand it. Kicking a field goal made it 21-10. If the defense would had been able to stop Maryville and been able to score a TD it would of had a chance to pull with in 3 points with a 2 point conversion. SU's kicker had been pretty good all season long so I guess Barnes was hoping for that. I would had liked to had seen SU try for a on side kick after the field goal. But would of, could of, should of's has been what SU fans have been dealing with for the past 3 years now.

It could be worse... you could be Averett and have 0 wins this year... but I understand how 3 years of losing would definately get to ya.  I know it would get to me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 05, 2007, 04:49:01 PM
    Congratulations to Raphael Amey who was named USA South Conference offensive Rookie of the Week. Amey had a second-best in school history 127 yards receiving on six catches plus two rushes for 18 yards and 56 yards in kickoff returns.

   Why SU does not pass more I will never understand. The Hornets were playing a team that has been terrible against the pass all season long. They did 48 rushing attempts for a avg. of 3.1 yards and was 9-18 for passing attempts with a avg. of 16.4  average per completion.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2007, 05:03:59 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 05, 2007, 04:23:39 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 05, 2007, 03:29:00 PM
This is weird - there hasn't been but one post on here since Saturday night. There is still one week left in the season but it appears that everyone has packed up and either gone to the ODAC board or Basketball board. There is some good games left to be played this final week.

Hum......let see if I can start something............ ;) ::)

Averett is going to pull an upset in TN this week against the Scots :D
(That ought to get someone fired up)

On a serious note - from what I have observed from watching both CNU and Ferrum play against Averett this year; CNU better have their act together agains Ferrum. In my opinion this would be the game to watch this week. Two hard hitting lines going head to toe, and both teams capable of running and passing the ball. Ferrum defenders better watch number 3. He is everywhere and being that he is a head shorter than the rest of the team, he seems to get lost in the crowd and finds the opening everytime.

Yeah right.  Averett just better get ready for an 0-10 season.  We had one of those a few years back and believe me it sucks.  Maryville will want to put it on Averett this year after last year's game.  Payback's coming Averett, just get ready for it  :D

I didn't tail gate year before last when we came to Maryville, so not sure about this. Do you have a section for the visitors to park and be able to tail gate or do they just mix in and find a place where ever. I have seen a lot of talk about trees being cut down, changes made to the grounds but I only remember being in a regular parking space outside of the visitors locker room last time. So any help you can offer would be appreciated.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2007, 05:10:48 PM

Yeah right.  Averett just better get ready for an 0-10 season.  We had one of those a few years back and believe me it sucks.  Maryville will want to put it on Averett this year after last year's game.  Payback's coming Averett, just get ready for it  :D
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I think everyone has already given into that (0-10) being a reality. Most of us (parents) would just like to see them make a game out of it and not give it away by making silly mistakes. (and not get blown out). Right now injuries, people quiting, and bad attitudes, in addition to the inexperience has worn them down. The coaches are doing everything they can to find something that works but they are worn as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CardsWr13 on November 05, 2007, 05:26:43 PM
Wow. look what Beyondsports and the AF2 have created

http://www.af2.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3525&ATCLID=1301025&SPID=1590&ISWIDE=1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 05, 2007, 05:36:06 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 05, 2007, 05:10:48 PM

Yeah right.  Averett just better get ready for an 0-10 season.  We had one of those a few years back and believe me it sucks.  Maryville will want to put it on Averett this year after last year's game.  Payback's coming Averett, just get ready for it  :D

I think everyone has already given into that (0-10) being a reality. Most of us (parents) would just like to see them make a game out of it and not give it away by making silly mistakes. (and not get blown out). Right now injuries, people quiting, and bad attitudes, in addition to the inexperience has worn them down. The coaches are doing everything they can to find something that works but they are worn as well.
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I also think graduating 25 seniors last year had something to do w/ it too...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2007, 06:04:15 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 05, 2007, 05:36:06 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 05, 2007, 05:10:48 PM

Yeah right.  Averett just better get ready for an 0-10 season.  We had one of those a few years back and believe me it sucks.  Maryville will want to put it on Averett this year after last year's game.  Payback's coming Averett, just get ready for it  :D

I think everyone has already given into that (0-10) being a reality. Most of us (parents) would just like to see them make a game out of it and not give it away by making silly mistakes. (and not get blown out). Right now injuries, people quiting, and bad attitudes, in addition to the inexperience has worn them down. The coaches are doing everything they can to find something that works but they are worn as well.

I also think graduating 25 seniors last year had something to do w/ it too...
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Agree, that's the inexperience part I mentioned. Did you see my question concerning tailgating?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on November 05, 2007, 06:57:55 PM
Quote from: BillTheGrunt on November 05, 2007, 03:56:08 PM
I was away on vacation for the Shenandoah-Maryville game (mercifully), so I'm hoping someone can explain the coaching rationale behind this decision (if it actually took place);

Fourth quarter, and SU trails 21-7. With about 10 minutes to go, SU recovers a fumble deep in Maryville territory. On 4th and 5, from the Maryville 13, trailing 21-7 with about 9 minutes to go, SU kicks a field goal???

Am I wrong or is this a sign of a team (or a coach) that's simply given up?

Because 5 yards is a long-bomb hail mary pass play for the hornets...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on November 05, 2007, 07:02:47 PM
Didn't get a chance to log on over the weekend.  Congrats to Maryville for a good solid win over the Hornets.  After the massive 2 game winning streak it now looks like we lost our mojo out there. Could someone from Maryville please FedEx it back before SU heads to Methodist.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 05, 2007, 07:06:11 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 05, 2007, 06:04:15 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 05, 2007, 05:36:06 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 05, 2007, 05:10:48 PM

Yeah right.  Averett just better get ready for an 0-10 season.  We had one of those a few years back and believe me it sucks.  Maryville will want to put it on Averett this year after last year's game.  Payback's coming Averett, just get ready for it  :D

I think everyone has already given into that (0-10) being a reality. Most of us (parents) would just like to see them make a game out of it and not give it away by making silly mistakes. (and not get blown out). Right now injuries, people quiting, and bad attitudes, in addition to the inexperience has worn them down. The coaches are doing everything they can to find something that works but they are worn as well.

I also think graduating 25 seniors last year had something to do w/ it too...

Agree, that's the inexperience part I mentioned. Did you see my question concerning tailgating?
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Sorry missed that one.  Everyone kind of mixes in for the tailgating.  Most of it is by where the Scots walk on the field, which is like 100 feet away from where the visitors walk in.  There isn't a visitors parking lot.  There is pleanty of parking for everyone.  Just make your way to Cooper Athletic Center and follow the crowd.  I would get there early if you wanna tailgate so you can get a spot close to the gate.  I won't be in town sadly for this game or I could point ya in the right direction literally.  I am envious you will be there and I won't :(  The tailgating is great so you should have fun.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 05, 2007, 07:07:02 PM
Quote from: SU97 on November 05, 2007, 07:02:47 PM
Didn't get a chance to log on over the weekend.  Congrats to Maryville for a good solid win over the Hornets.  After the massive 2 game winning streak it now looks like we lost our mojo out there. Could someone from Maryville please FedEx it back before SU heads to Methodist.   

I will take a SU win over Methodist.  I'll ship ya'll your mojo back as long as it doesn't take away from ours...  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on November 05, 2007, 09:13:21 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 05, 2007, 07:07:02 PM
Quote from: SU97 on November 05, 2007, 07:02:47 PM
Didn't get a chance to log on over the weekend.  Congrats to Maryville for a good solid win over the Hornets.  After the massive 2 game winning streak it now looks like we lost our mojo out there. Could someone from Maryville please FedEx it back before SU heads to Methodist.   

I will take a SU win over Methodist.   I'll ship ya'll your mojo back as long as it doesn't take away from ours...  ;)

I'd say it's a tall order, but not out of the realm of possibility.  SU is up 4-2 in the series against the Monarchs, but Methodist has had the better of us the last two times out...  last time SU was in Fayetteville it was a 35-0 spanking at the hands of Roncketti. 

I was hoping for a nice 4 game win streak to end out the season, but Maryville apparently didn't get the memo.   :(   

Narch - I'd say you guys are the favorites.  Hope to see SU pull off an upset and end the year on a high note.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 05, 2007, 09:40:54 PM
Quote from: SU97 on November 05, 2007, 09:13:21 PM
I was hoping for a nice 4 game win streak to end out the season, but Maryville apparently didn't get the memo.   :(   
Quote from: SU97 on November 05, 2007, 07:02:47 PM
After the massive 2 game winning streak  it now looks like we lost our mojo out there.   
2 game winning streak?  Hoping for a 4 game winning streak? Did I miss a win? The Hornets beat the Pride then lost to NCWC. After that is was a win over the Cougars. No 2 game winning streak. I think all this losing has had an effect on your calculator in your brain. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on November 05, 2007, 11:25:05 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on November 05, 2007, 09:40:54 PM
Quote from: SU97 on November 05, 2007, 09:13:21 PM
I was hoping for a nice 4 game win streak to end out the season, but Maryville apparently didn't get the memo.   :(   
Quote from: SU97 on November 05, 2007, 07:02:47 PM
After the massive 2 game winning streak  it now looks like we lost our mojo out there.   
2 game winning streak?  Hoping for a 4 game winning streak? Did I miss a win? The Hornets beat the Pride then lost to NCWC. After that is was a win over the Cougars. No 2 game winning streak. I think all this losing has had an effect on your calculator in your brain. ;)

Oooops...  :D  good look UJ. Thanks for keeping me honest. Not really paying attention to football as much - thank goodness basketball has started preseason.  :D 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 05, 2007, 11:40:53 PM
No problem 97 ;D. Its been along season on all of us. Personally I cant wait for basketball season to start as well. I know SU was not picked to high in the pre-season polls but I have a feeling that they are going to surprise a lot of people. Maybe be a 4th place team going into the USAC tournament.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 06, 2007, 01:38:53 PM
uj/97 - su scares me this weekend - they've really started to put some things together, and they are a team that will continue to run the ball and run the ball and run the ball...if the mu defense that played against chowan and m'ville, in particular, shows up...well, let's just say they'll have success

su is actually averaging more points per game in conference contests than mu (19.2 to 19.0) - the primary differences are in yardage (mu 381 - su 266) and defensive scoring (mu 21.8 - su 29.5) - i predict a 27-17 monarch win that is a close game throughout, with mu getting a late score to seal it

muftbl51 - i look forward to seeing you on saturday...there is a chili cook-off at the monarch zone this weekend, so you're most likely to find me somewhere near the free chili :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 06, 2007, 02:20:27 PM
    IT'S A BATTLE FOR FITH PLACE!!   It certainly does not get any better than this.  ::)
  I'm curious to see how the Hornets respond to playing the last game of the season. This all could come down to special teams. An area that SU has had problems with all season long giving up big yardage on kickoffs. But the Monarch's have been playing some decent defense in conference play. I was very impressed with how well you played against CNU and also Ferrum. Methodist could be a team that is going to make some noise next season. (I'm not sure of all the graduates you have) I think the Hornets will score somewhere between 10-14 points. The 19.2 points average in league play I feel is more of an aberration than reality. I don't see a big scoring output like we did in the Hornets 2 wins of the season. So a 27-17 score as you predicted could very well happen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 06, 2007, 02:25:14 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on November 06, 2007, 02:20:27 PM
    IT'S A BATTLE FOR FITH PLACE!!   It certainly does not get any better than this.  ::)
  I'm curious to see how the Hornets respond to playing the last game of the season. This all could come down to special teams. An area that SU has had problems with all season long giving up big yardage on kickoffs. But the Monarch's have been playing some decent defense in conference play. I was very impressed with how well you played against CNU and also Ferrum. Methodist could be a team that is going to make some noise next season. (I'm not sure of all the graduates you have) I think the Hornets will score somewhere between 10-14 points. The 19.2 points average in league play I feel is more of an aberration than reality. I don't see a big scoring output like we did in the Hornets 2 wins of the season. So a 27-17 score as you predicted could very well happen.

Believe me if the Hornets can keep it close enough that they can run the ball they will be just fine.  All SU does is run the ball which is MU's weakness.  Maryville had 450 yards rushing against them w/ 3 100 yard rushers (And we lost errrr!!).  I think as long as SU will keep the ball on the ground they will have a chance.  If it turns into a passing contest, definate edge goes to Methodist.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 06, 2007, 02:43:54 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 06, 2007, 02:25:14 PM
If it turns into a passing contest, definate edge goes to Methodist.
I think we have a better chance of seeing it snow in Winchester in the month of June than seeing a passing contest erupt.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 06, 2007, 02:50:12 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on November 06, 2007, 02:43:54 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 06, 2007, 02:25:14 PM
If it turns into a passing contest, definate edge goes to Methodist.
I think we have a better chance of seeing it snow in Winchester in the month of June than seeing a passing contest erupt.  ;)

point taken... haha  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 06, 2007, 03:32:39 PM
I see how the selection show is going to be on ESPNU this year. This sucks :(. I would bet not many of us have ESPNU. At the very least the selection show should be on ESPN2 and the Stagg Bowl should also be in prime time. Just another example of how the little guy gets stomped on and how D3 get's no respect.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 06, 2007, 03:46:14 PM
Maybe next year they can put us on ESPN8 "the ocho"...  Sorry for the Dodgeball reference  :D... Yeah D3 gets no love, but at least the 13 lateral performace made ESPN...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2007, 03:49:41 PM
I finally have ESPNU!!!!

Now I just need to remember to record the show!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 06, 2007, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 06, 2007, 02:25:14 PMBelieve me if the Hornets can keep it close enough that they can run the ball they will be just fine.  All SU does is run the ball which is MU's weakness. 

this is absolutely true...in 9 games this season, the monarchs have held only 3 opponents below their season ypc average...au, ehc and gcq...even g'boro, which averages an anemic 2.3 ypc (1.4 ypc in conference) on the season averaged 3.4 ypc vs. the monarchs  - overall, teams tend to realize about a 25% increase in ypc vs. the monarchs - su averages 3.6 ypc on the season (which ranks near the bottom of the conference) - if this trend continues they'll average around 4.5 ypc vs. the monarchs

of course, mvc had a 6.0 ypc average and lost to the monarchs and the cnu, fc and chowan games were all close, and those teams averaged 6.6, 7.2 and 5.5 ypc against the monarchs, respectively...maybe the key to winning isn't stopping the run, but stopping the runner from getting into the end zone...i think if the monarchs can do this, they'll probably win :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 06, 2007, 05:24:12 PM
Quote from: narch on November 06, 2007, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 06, 2007, 02:25:14 PMBelieve me if the Hornets can keep it close enough that they can run the ball they will be just fine.  All SU does is run the ball which is MU's weakness. 

this is absolutely true...in 9 games this season, the monarchs have held only 3 opponents below their season ypc average...au, ehc and gcq...even g'boro, which averages an anemic 2.3 ypc (1.4 ypc in conference) on the season averaged 3.4 ypc vs. the monarchs  - overall, teams tend to realize about a 25% increase in ypc vs. the monarchs - su averages 3.6 ypc on the season (which ranks near the bottom of the conference) - if this trend continues they'll average around 4.5 ypc vs. the monarchs

of course, mvc had a 6.0 ypc average and lost to the monarchs and the cnu, fc and chowan games were all close, and those teams averaged 6.6, 7.2 and 5.5 ypc against the monarchs, respectively...maybe the key to winning isn't stopping the run, but stopping the runner from getting into the end zone...i think if the monarchs can do this, they'll probably win :)

Great stats Narch.  Just wanted to throw the compliment out to ya.  Good luck this week against SU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 07, 2007, 12:37:58 AM
Congrats to CNU on a solid win last week. Sounds like you guys did a pretty good job of taking it to a less talented team. Keep up the good work and finish out the year strong against Ferrum. 7-3 aint bad for most teams but I know we measure our success/failures at CNU by what we do in the playoffs. I feel bad for the seniors, but let this be a lesson to the young guys that playoff berths are earned during the offseason and won by being ready to play in big games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 07, 2007, 06:17:39 AM
7-3 is pretty solid.  Does anybody remember seeing Tim Mcgraw in Friday Night Lights?   If one isn't careful they could end up losing touch with what football at this level is really about.     

Pride gets the Big W against the Bishops this week!

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2007, 03:41:57 PM
you can tell it's the end of the season. This board is quiet!

Let's all rally behind NCW and wish them well in 2 weeks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 08, 2007, 02:40:08 PM
   Here is an article from today's Winchester Star about how SU is tied with  Worcester State for the most fumble recoveries in the nation with 19. http://www.winchesterstar.com/article_details.php?ArticleID=2443
Not a bad stat to be tied with for a change ;D.

   The article also has a short section on Coach Barnes job security.
"Under Barnes, the Hornets have posted just a 5-24  record since appearing in the Division III playoffs in 2004 (one 2005 win was stripped away because of the use of an ineligible player), but they have won two conference games thus far, the most since that 2004 season."By Robert Niedzwiecki
The Winchester Star
    It goes on to read that perhaps one reason why they have a negative win/loss record is because the schedule was front-loaded with an opponent 27-16 record in the first 5 games. I just cant buy into this. Charles Barkley said it best once on Monday Night Football. "You are what your record is." They have the same schedule next year as well. What will be the excuse then?
    Here are a few other stats to look at from the past 3 years. SU's offense (not total team) has scored 322 points. That's an average of 11 points a game. That should show any coach that the style he brings every Saturday is not working.
One other stat and I think could be the biggest one of all is the attendance of the home games.   In 2005 a total of 13,002 (avg 2,600) fans came to Shentel. In 2006 the total was 9,981 (avg of 1996) In 2007 8,380 fans came to see the Hornets with an average of 1676. That is a huge drop of about 35%

    Barnes said in the article this ""If people could look at us behind the scenes, they'd see how hard we work and see players doing the right things, and they'd see we're on the right path,"

I have never questioned Barnes' work ethic. He may be the hardest working coach at SU and I'm sure he really cares for the players and parents also very much. I would be shocked however if SU lets Barnes go at the end of the season for 2 reasons.
1: Simply because SU will be getting a new president next year and the current one may not want to be the bad guy in his last year.
2: And this is most likely the main reason is from the SU school paper of what  assistant AD Scott Musa wrote in the September 26 issue is that pretty much SU cares more about having a full roster than it does about winning. As long as the tuition is being paid it seems all is fine in Winchester.

    I wrote this about a month ago saying most likely SU will never be a Mount Un. But why should we settle for 2 wins a year?
    In the Sept. 26 http://www.su.edu/pr/publications/sun/Sept26.pdf issue Musa wrote this. "Remember where we are. Saying the university should make a change in the coaching staff because we aren't winning as much as the fans think we should is an attitude that has no place at a Division III institution." This is ridiculous!  I simply don't understand some thinking that Div. 3 should be pretty much exempt from looking at a coaches win/loss record.
    Let's bring in some new life on the side lines. Coach Barnes may be the nicest guy on the planet but he has not shown He is willing to change. It would be one thing if the Hornets were competitive in the losses that they have accumulated over the years. But they have a average score of SU 9 opponents 31 in those 23 losses (not including the fore fit game). You are what your record is. 



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 08, 2007, 02:45:19 PM
another fine uj rant...which is obviously being used as a ploy to fire up the team so that they can beat the monarchs

for all the su players reading this...he doesn't mean it, he's just trying to get you fired up...you're smarter than that...don't fall for this - you should come out this saturday as flat as you've been all season...no reason to get worked up :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 08, 2007, 02:54:06 PM
LOL, your crazy narch :D. One point for you. Its just so hard to see how much the players practice and give the hearts out week in week out. Believe me I would much rather be witting about an SU team dominating the conference than what we fans have been watching over the years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 09, 2007, 12:39:23 PM
A big congratulations to  Chris Dooley and Wes Fry having been named to the ESPN The Magazine Academic All-District III team.  http://www.su.edu/athletics/hornets_news.cfm?spid=1811

Also here is the game notes for this Saturdays game against Methodist.
http://www.su.edu/athletics/Football_gn.pdf
GO HORNETS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 09, 2007, 02:03:07 PM
nice piece on Adrin Diggs, CNU LB (or as one un-named poster says...one of those "chicken leg" LBs).

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_cnufeature_1108nov08,0,3725361.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_cnufeature_1108nov08,0,3725361.story)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 09, 2007, 02:18:30 PM
Nice article 85 on Diggs. Its always an enjoyment to read about a player that was not projected to have much of a chance and prove to all the "experts" that they were wrong. CNU picked up a great player and I'm sure he is going to be a beast the next 3 years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 09, 2007, 02:43:22 PM
Thanks UJ.

I guess the good part about this time of year (if there is a good part) is that the teams that are not going to the playoffs usually highlight other aspects of the team/game. The article is a nice example. Also, the recognition for Dooley and Fry is another good example. Congrats to those young men. I'm glad their hard work is rewarded, especially after such a tumultuous season. Something positive for them and for the team to end the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 09, 2007, 11:50:56 PM
Normally D3 gets absolutely no love, except in the championship game or if we have a 13 lateral performace, but I just wanna give a big YO (Lee Corso reference) to ESPN for bucking the SEC and other marginal matchups around the nation and having their college gameday at a D3 rivalry game between Williams College vs. Amherst.  Finally some national love!  It was pretty cool to see the college preview Saturaday nigh with all the Williams College Fans.  They should do D3 proud!!  Maybe in the coming season they can hit up the USA South Conference.  Maybe it is wishfull thinking but we have to start somewhere.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2007, 01:51:13 PM
7-0 Maryville in the 1st
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2007, 02:00:26 PM
14-0 Maryville 3:22 left in the 1st Quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2007, 02:12:45 PM
17-0 Maryville 13:44 left in the 2nd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2007, 02:17:17 PM
28-17 CNU up....seconds left in first half. Kicker is getting ready to try a 53 yarder.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2007, 02:18:14 PM
it's.......another time out
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2007, 02:19:38 PM
Ferrum calls 2 timeouts ina  row. second one came right at the snap...the kick wasn't close...but no play....so CNU brings offense back on field...5 secs left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2007, 02:20:39 PM
Halftime 28-17 CNU over FC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2007, 02:29:11 PM
another nice article by Jen Williams in the Daily Press Scroll down some in the article and you'll see the non conference opponents for CNU next year.....yikes..more tough games!! Wesley, Wilkes, and Salisbury.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_cnunotes_1108nov08,0,4557721.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_cnunotes_1108nov08,0,4557721.story)

Looking forward to that. CNU has 11 seniors, many in key positions. But I think CNU will be better prepared next year. Many many many FR and SO stepped up this year. CNU will be a tougher team for opponents next year.

It's only halftime....30 mintes still left - but CONGRATS to all CNU Seniors. Thanks for the past 4 years. Now, it's your turn to "go pro" most likely in something other than sports. I wish you guys the best.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2007, 02:53:55 PM
17-0 Maryville at the half
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2007, 03:28:10 PM
24-0 Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2007, 03:37:41 PM
30-0 Maryville 55 seconds left in the 3rd.  Rommel Hightower became the 1st 1000 yard rusher since 1999 on the TD run.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2007, 03:46:09 PM
37-0 Maryville in the 14:05 left in the 4th.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2007, 03:53:07 PM
37-6  Maryville 11:56 left in the 4th...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on November 10, 2007, 03:57:38 PM
Narch - hats off to you guys down in Methodist.  Listened to the game and it sounded like SU had a chance or two early in the second half, but Methodist stood strong. Final score was not reflective of the game - SU's late push resulted in a TD to bring it within a score. MU seemed to be in control. I thought my radio was broken, I heard "hornets in the shotgun" and "Horents back to pass..."  ;D

I am glad to see that it was Diggs who scored at the end though, he had a good career at SU and the senior deserved it.

I liked what I heard from the Amley kid at WR.  Good to hear some youngsters are stepping up at the end of the season.  

Finally - it's hoops season!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2007, 04:23:27 PM
43-6 Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2007, 04:34:41 PM
43-6 Maryville wins.  Congrads on the 7-3 season!!!  Go Scots!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 10, 2007, 04:59:39 PM
Quote from: SU97 on November 10, 2007, 03:57:38 PM
Final score was not reflective of the game - SU's late push resulted in a TD to bring it within a score. MU seemed to be in control.

I am glad to see that it was Diggs who scored at the end though, he had a good career at SU and the senior deserved it.

I liked what I heard from the Amley kid at WR.  Good to hear some youngsters are stepping up at the end of the season.  
thanks, '97 - the monarchs really played a pretty solid game on both sides - defense made some nice stops - there were some bad penalties and lots of turnovers that kept su in the game in the 1st half, but the monarchs were dominant in the second half - like you, i want to tip my cap to the monarch seniors - they had outstanding careers, and while 4-6 isn't the way any of them wanted to go out, they didn't pack it in at any point this season and finished strong - thanks for 4 great years of football, guys (ditto to all of the other usasac seniors)

whoever said su runs the wing-t doesn't know what they're talking about or su has completely re-vamped their offense - they didn't line up in a wing formation once today (mostly I-formation) - su does have some parts...87 is as good a freshman wr as i've seen in a while...he's got great size, decent speed and good hands - 26 is quick and nimble (not sure what year he is) - qb play leaves a lot to be desired - if su had a qb that was mobile or could throw with some consistency, they'd be dangerous

i want to see the box score, because i'll bet mu out-gained su by 180-200 yards (or at least it seemed that way) - i'll have more later
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2007, 05:08:17 PM
What was the final score of the SU-MU game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 10, 2007, 05:48:10 PM
Quote from: narch link=topic=4562.msg804223#msg804223/quote]
whoever said su runs the wing-t doesn't know what they're talking about or su has completely re-vamped their offense - they didn't line up in a wing formation once today (mostly I-formation)
Your right Narch about the Wing T. Around I guess the 6th or 7th game SU has been lining up out of the I more and more. I give Barnes credit today for mixing it up today. He called 36 rushing plays and 32 passing plays. I have been hard on Barnes about the play calling but today I have to say he called a pretty good game. Perhaps this will carry over to next season with this being a little more balanced style......  :-\

The final score Scot was 27-20. But like it was stated before it was not as close as the score reads.

Narch the final box score was MU with 423 total yards and SU had 333 Rushing it was MU 240 SU 140.http://www.su.edu/athletics/fb/current/111007.htm
# 87 is Raphael Amey. He seems to be the real deal. I hope they use his talents a lot more next season. He is only a freshman. Today he had 7 rec for 153 yds and a long for 81. He was also named USA South Conference offensive Rookie of the Week on this past Monday. For the season he had 26 rec. for 462 yards. They absolutely need to get the football in this kids hands more next season. I'll also have more later on. Congratulations MU on a well played game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 10, 2007, 05:54:12 PM
Quote from: SU97 on November 10, 2007, 03:57:38 PM
Finally - it's hoops season!
Amen to that!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2007, 06:33:03 PM
Thanks UJ!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 10, 2007, 08:52:31 PM
i was shocked to see the final stats as close until i remembered an 81 yard bomb on the next to last play :)

i think su is going to be in decent shape going forward, but they've got to get better qb play, especially if they're going to continue to throw it as much as they did today

getting back to the seniors today - all 4 monarch offensive seniors made solid contributions today - hill had a great game, going for 140 and 2 td's...his first td was vintage mike hill...mike has been banged up all season long and really hasn't had an amazing season, but he showed today what he can do when he's healthy and on - doleman made 2 great catches today and spent a lot of time behind su db's, but the wind made it difficult to get him the ball - mularski had 90 all purpose yards and played tough...that guy loves contact, especially for a wr - even romin poussin got in on the action with a really nice catch in the first quarter

on defense, lawrence was a beast...he had a couple of huge hits and burlingame and perkins made some nice plays as well - perkins blocked the first xp attempt, but there was an offside penalty - merritt, hayden and smith played solid games up front and played especially well in the second half

in the post-game interview, mularski had some comments that were goose-bump inducing about his career as a monarch and playing that final game...again, that was a fun group to watch and they'll be missed

here is a good article (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=277437) from the fayetteville observer this morning profiling lawrence
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 10, 2007, 09:09:09 PM
...but

i'm really excited about the future for monarch football - not so much because the monarchs won the last 3 games...the schedule has a little to do with that...but because i'm excited about what the monarchs return - the entire OL is sophomores...i can't remember coach funderburk ever being so excited about a group of o-lineman - being sound up front allows you to do a lot of things - the young receivers are going to be good - fulmore can stretch the defense and has good hands and hopkins catches everything you throw him and finds a way to keep moving the chains...if mu can find another guy on the outside, the receiving corps will be just fine, even without doleman and mularski - the rb's are rock solid - mcguire is a little bowling ball...he runs hard and strong, but has some wiggle, too - harrison can motor and seems to have good hands out of the backfield - the playing time they got this year should be huge next year - then there's the qb...i've been amazed by the progression parks has made this year - the game seems to have really slowed down for him and i think the sky is the limit for him...he could leave mu with a lot of records if he continues to progress - he's so poised and a great leader...reminds me of a certain former monarch qb with his athleticism (not you papi :))

on the defensive side of the ball, i like the way the back end has progressed - mu didn't have a single db who had ever started a college game when the season started, and by the end of the season, those guys really became one of the strengths of the team - king and bartee, in particular, played well, but i was impressed today with the play of frosh michael johnson, as well - losing 3 lb's and 3 dl will hurt, no question, and i think the monarchs are going to have to outscore teams to win a lot of games next year, especially early, but the coaches moved leary up to a lb slot and he played REALLY well today and peters, blalock and glover are frosh lb's that had flashes of being really solid throughout the year...the cupboard certainly isn't empty

last thought on the monarch season...mu was very much in 5 of their 6 losses - a play here, a play there, and this is a team that could have had a very different record - last time mu had a young team that lost a lot of close games, they went 7-3 the next year (with a junior qb) then finished 8-2 the following year...i'm certainly not going to predict such lofty results this early in the offseason, but if this team works hard in the offseason, there is no reason they can't compete for a conference championship

GO MONARCHS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 10, 2007, 11:20:59 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 07, 2007, 06:17:39 AM
7-3 is pretty solid.  Does anybody remember seeing Tim Mcgraw in Friday Night Lights?   If one isn't careful they could end up losing touch with what football at this level is really about.     

Pride gets the Big W against the Bishops this week!

Roll Pride!

Congrats CNU on another win and thanks to the seniors for another successful season of CNU football. Mosh has his opinion but I know you guys came to CNU to win championships while getting a good education.  Use the offseason wisely and continue to work hard to bring even more success to our school. Seniors, CNU 85 has the right idea, now its time to soley focus on graduating and becoming responsible adults in your respective communities. While next season won't be the same, you have paid your dues and joined the CNU football alum fraternity. I think we have more than enough room for you guys at our d1 style tailgate events.  ;D ;D ;D

Until next season.....GO Bishops...... Bring more RESPECT TO OUR GROWING CONFERENCE. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 10, 2007, 11:54:04 PM
With a 55-14 win NCW became the first team in USAC history to go undefeated in league play.  ;D I want to congratulate the players and the NCW fans on this. I'll be cheering for you in the playoffs. I guess I should now say.... GO BISHOPS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2007, 11:59:42 PM
Ditto what UJ and CNUfinest said....

GO BISHOPS!! Congrats on going undefeated in conference play! First team to do that. Go into the playoffs with a big can of whoopass!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 11, 2007, 12:01:49 AM
It is nice to have an undisputed champ!  Congrads NCWC!  We are behind you and show the rest of D3 what USA South football is all about!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 11, 2007, 12:02:21 AM
On to the d3hoops board. UJ.....2 pre-season all-americans, huh? Dang.....take it easy on CNU this year. It's gonna be tough for us diehards.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2007, 07:49:49 AM
really nice season, bishops - 8-2 with close losses to wesley and widener is very respectable...now back it up with a first round win in the playoffs!  Go Bishops!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 11, 2007, 01:09:01 PM
I took a class for a semester at nc wes.  I guess that makes me a bishop.


Nah...Pride fan for life.

Still goodluck Bishops.  Show some people what eastern nc football is capable of.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on November 11, 2007, 01:40:40 PM
Fellas, thanks for all the love on the board today. NCW got a tough draw
and 500 miles to travel. We'll need all the good karma we can get. It's
good to win the conference outright. Now the men have to go to PA. and get
the job done. I know Old REf & NCWDad join me in saying ,"GO BISHOPS"!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 11, 2007, 08:28:13 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on November 11, 2007, 01:40:40 PM
Fellas, thanks for all the love on the board today. NCW got a tough draw
and 500 miles to travel. We'll need all the good karma we can get. It's
good to win the conference outright. Now the men have to go to PA. and get
the job done. I know Old REf & NCWDad join me in saying ,"GO BISHOPS"!!!!!!!!

Have the team watch the SECOND half of last year's game against CNU.  :D W&J can be beaten.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: used2b on November 11, 2007, 08:39:03 PM
Anyone not feel bad for NCW having to travel? I'm pulling for them and hope thier speed and good weather might them out against W&J. I know 1st hand, southern teams playing in shocking weather can be a difference maker.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnuchampion on November 11, 2007, 09:00:24 PM
I am not really sure how well Washington and Jefferson is this year...I see they are undefeated but I dont really know anything about them...

Remembering back a couple of years to my playing days W & J has an astro turf that could really benefit the Bishops speed as long as the weathers nice.

Good luck Bishops represent us well!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2007, 10:20:40 PM
Quote from: Smith Reed on November 11, 2007, 01:40:40 PMNCW got a tough draw
and 500 miles to travel.
is there such a thing as an easy draw this time of year?

i do feel that ncwc should have been the #7 seed - hsc's two losses were to 4-6 teams...one of which ncwc beat (ehc) - ncwc's losses came to a pair of 9-1 playoff teams...but it doesn't matter much...wesley wouldn't have been an easier draw - good luck, bishops!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 12, 2007, 04:05:08 PM
Did no other team have a 1000 yard rusher this year in the USA South besides Maryville?  I was just looking at the end of the year stats and I wouldn't have thought that.  I thought Vann would have gotten there or been close.  Especially since Ferrum rushed for 350 yards more yards than Maryville did.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on November 12, 2007, 06:16:53 PM
A late congrats to the Bishops for taking the conference title.  Show well in the playoffs guys. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on November 12, 2007, 06:20:48 PM
Here's the link to the entire MDT Sunday package on the MC win and the conference round up.
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071111/SPORTS/71111012 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071111/SPORTS/71111012)

We'll have another wrap package up Tuesday a.m. including the rare analysis of our staff's preseason conference picks vs. the actual final standings (guess we're feeling brave today)

I think without the injury there was no doubt Hill would have reached a grand. Vann didnt get the number of carries to get him to 1,000 but spreading the ball around worked very well for Ferrum. I think what makes Hightower's season more impressive is that he is not hogging carries  — Wall and Moore both finished with more than 500 yards.

Somewhat dissapointed that I wasn't able to scheme a way to drive up for NCW's playoff game. It was a lot of fun last year to go cover CNU against W&J but alas basketball gets in the way again and I wonder if MC basketball may pay for football's success opening up at Averett Saturday. :o

SU may have a legit big play receiver on their hands, think he'll be back and get a bigger piece of the offensive pie next year? ;)

After looking over who got left out in the different brackets, I'm giving my WTF sympathy to D2's Carson-Newman. Regional teams ranked behind them, with softer skeds and with more losses get in but the Eagles are left out.  ???



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 12, 2007, 06:38:46 PM
Gotta love earned access.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 12, 2007, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on November 12, 2007, 06:20:48 PM
I think what makes Hightower's season more impressive is that he is not hogging carries  — Wall and Moore both finished with more than 500 yards.

Somewhat dissapointed that I wasn't able to scheme a way to drive up for NCW's playoff game. It was a lot of fun last year to go cover CNU against W&J but alas basketball gets in the way again and I wonder if MC basketball may pay for football's success opening up at Averett Saturday. :o


Yes it was great to see Moore break out this year.  It definately makes for a great 1-2 punch.  Also since they are both Sophomores we should be solid with the run for the years to come.

I was wondering about Averett vs. MC basketball game.  Is Averett good enough to exact their revenge on the Scots?  I know MC has been extremely successful over the past few years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on November 12, 2007, 07:35:04 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 12, 2007, 07:15:09 PM
I was wondering about Averett vs. MC basketball game.  Is Averett good enough to exact their revenge on the Scots?  I know MC has been extremely successful over the past few years.

Yes - Averett won the USASAC last year and were ranked by d3hoops in the top 25 at times during last season.  They return 4 starters. 

What was more impressive than the final record was that they battled significant injuries to starters all year long and were still able to pull together and win the whole thing.  Tough group of kids.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on November 12, 2007, 11:43:16 PM
Well its more basketball related but since we're going out of the MC conference win to a nonconference basketball game WTH

MC has more wings than Hooters on Bike Nite but thin everywhere else. So nobody knows what to expect from this team except it is not going to be the post'em up style Scots that have gone to 9 straight NCAAs with a first round win.

They can get a leg up by surprising AU and Centre as they open with two road games in different Danvilles but  even watching them scrimmage very hard to tell how good they are.

If the system bogs down on opening night on the road at AU then I think it could very well be a payback situation.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 13, 2007, 12:03:07 AM
At that point Coach Lambert will be cussing coach I haha!  In any case I know coach Lambert will have his boys ready... GO SCOTS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on November 13, 2007, 09:52:44 AM
To the Monarchs, congrats on the win saturday. I had the opportunity to stand on the sidelines to watch the game saturday. I enjoyed every minute of it. I hope one day i can be there to help coach the methodist team.

Narch- I agree with what you said about the game. The team is so young, they will be something to reckon with next year. The interior guys for the O-Line are nasty players. Kesslar will be another all-conference center for the monarchs. He is smart and plays with passion for the game. A leader for a group of youg guys. The two guards are nice as well, and the left tackle reminds me alot of how another fromer tackle played for the monarchs, DELAPP. He is solid and has some good feet and size. This team is going to be nice. I talked with Parks after the game, the kid is very meek and all about the team. He cares about what the team thinks and is going to be nice for them next year. Rocket came along very strong with his junior year, and it seems as though Parks looks like Roncketti alot with how he has played this year. Good things to come for the monarchs.

GOOD LUCK NCWC. They held me up to my prediction, they won the title outright. I thought they would. Good luck in the postseason. It seems we cannot get past the second round, so lets get it done boys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 14, 2007, 02:05:32 PM
    Nice way to end the season for the Hornets. They swept the final USA South Conference Rookie of the Week awards.http://www.su.edu/athletics/hornets_news.cfm?spid=1814

"Amey, who led all receivers with 149 yards on seven catches, set a new school record for receiving yards in a season as well as longest reception in history. Amey's 77-yarder on the visitors final drive breaks the record of 76 set by Chris Delfin against Methodist in the 2003 season finale. His 462 yards on the year breaks Mike McVearry's 2004 record. Lunsford, who had 189 yards passing, set a new school mark with 15 completions. This breaks the record of 14 held by Jon Hoffman and set against Bridgewater in 2004." SU web Site by I belive Scott Musa

    In a recap of last Saturdays game I have to write again with how pleased I was with what Coach Barnes did with the play calling. For so long I have been complaining about how one sided he was calling a game. But Saturdays game it was 38 rush and 32 passing plays and I'm happy to give credit when credit is due to Barnes. While its just one game its a start in the right direction. No team can be one dimensional and expect to win on a consistent basis. With Lunsferd now having a half of year under his belt and star's  like freshmen players Amey and defensive end Blake Campbell maybe the Hornets can turn things around next season. I really hope Barnes keeps up the balanced approached next season. I'm already looking forward to next September with hopes of some strong recruiting in the off season. Until then GO HORNETS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 14, 2007, 03:28:38 PM
In today's SU paper Scott Musa writes a short paragraph about Shentel Stadium's field will get an upgrade after the lacrosse season and will explain more about it later. Perhaps this is the field turf many of us have been hoping  to be installed at SU . I hope Santa brings us this for our team and stadium. Just something else I will be looking forward to in 2008.
http://www.su.edu/pr/publications/sun/Nov14.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2007, 07:16:22 AM
It's Thursday. I would assume that NCW will leave for the W&J game tomorrow.  Just wanted to drop in a "Good Luck" and offer best wishes before people start hitting the road. I hope NCW has a better outcome over W&J than CNU has had.

Git-R-Done!!!   :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: dedragon on November 15, 2007, 08:54:07 AM
Here, here!  I have W&J as my first #1 to go down!  After watching your QB slip 50 tackles at the Wesley game early this year, I think you slip by an overconfident PAC team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 15, 2007, 08:19:45 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 15, 2007, 07:16:22 AM
Git-R-Done!!!   :D :D

Wow, 85, you don't belong in Tidewater....you should be living out here amid the mountains and country roads with me.   ;D

Anyway, ditto here about NCW! I hope you guys chalk up a great win for the team and for the conference. GO BISHOPS!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on November 15, 2007, 08:40:20 PM
Hey Tipps, I just wanted to say I really enjoyed reading your mid-atlantic column this year.  I thought you did a great job of covering the region.  If you ever end up back at Shentel Stadium let me know.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 15, 2007, 10:59:43 PM
Quote from: SU97 on November 15, 2007, 08:40:20 PM
Hey Tipps, I just wanted to say I really enjoyed reading your mid-atlantic column this year.  I thought you did a great job of covering the region.  If you ever end up back at Shentel Stadium let me know.   

Thanks SU97! I'll definitely give you a heads up next time I'm spending three hours or so at Shentel.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 16, 2007, 08:06:49 AM
no talk about the all-conference teams yet...well i'll get it started

usasac all-conference (http://www.usasouth.net/news/07fballconf.htm)

no real surprises in offensive player of the year, coach of the year, offensive/defensive rookie of the year...i was a little surprised to see lawrence voted defensive player of the year - not because he doesn't deserve it...he's a complete beast on the field - but because the monarch defense as a whole struggled at times this year - i thought maybe the struggles of the defense would prevent consideration from some of the coaches - i can assure you of this, though...there isn't a player in the usasac that deserves any accolades they get more than daryl lawrence...he is the very definition of a student-athlete, he's a great leader and he's a great person
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on November 16, 2007, 08:35:29 AM
I thought the Locke kid from maryville should have been at least 2nd team, probally first team. When Greensboro played them he was the most athletic player they had on defense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2007, 09:02:29 AM
Quote from: footballsouthernstyle 1 on November 16, 2007, 08:35:29 AM
I thought the Locke kid from maryville should have been at least 2nd team, probally first team. When Greensboro played them he was the most athletic player they had on defense.


Well that is the second year in a row Locke has really been snubbed.  He was a preseason all-American and had solid numbers still when other teams would kick away from him on kickoffs, but hey sometimes it seems like the original conference members stick together on their post season awards.  No knock on the 3 guys that got the award.  I guess he should have expected it since last year he lead the conference in punt and kick return yards at got honorable mentioned whoo freaking hoo  :-\

I also expected Brad Daniel should have been possibly second-team.  He has an extremely strong leg and since Maryville likes to keep everyone in the stands the whole game and win close, he banged some huge kicks home.

Also, were there only 2 FBs this year?  Nobody got honorable mentioned. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2007, 09:12:46 AM
Is there going to be a broadcast of the NCWC game on the internet Saturday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 16, 2007, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2007, 09:02:29 AM
Well that is the second year in a row Locke has really been snubbed.  He was a preseason all-American and had solid numbers still when other teams would kick away from him on kickoffs, but hey sometimes it seems like the original conference members stick together on their post season awards.  No knock on the 3 guys that got the award.  I guess he should have expected it since last year he lead the conference in punt and kick return yards at got honorable mentioned whoo freaking hoo  :-\
if you're pimping him as a kick returner, the numbers don't back up your claims...teams kicked to him on 21 of 39 ko's this year and he averaged 19.4 yards per return, which was good for 10th in the conference and over 10 yards per return behind the leaders - in conference games, he was worse, with just a 17.1 yard per ko return average which was over 16 yards per return behind the conference leader and outside of the top 10 in the conference (and he still received 1/2 of the kickoffs) - as a punt returner he was 2nd overall, a full 2.5 yards per return behind the leader, but 3rd in conference games and over 8 yards per return behind the leader...being a preseason all-american has nothing to do with his numbers this year and teams clearly did not kick away from him...sorry – the numbers just don't lie...now if you're saying he should have been all-conference as a db, you might be right

as for your assertion that the original conference members stick together, how do explain the fact that m'ville had 4 more first and second team members than mu despite identical conference records...obviously, the coaches in the conference felt that m'ville was more talented than mu and showed no bias toward an original conference member

Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2007, 09:02:29 AMI also expected Brad Daniel should have been possibly second-team.  He has an extremely strong leg and since Maryville likes to keep everyone in the stands the whole game and win close, he banged some huge kicks home.
can't say i disagree here, especially since he kicked more fg's than anyone else in the conference...perhaps a poor percentage (11 for 21 overall and 8 for 14 in conference) cost him, especially since the first and second teamers were both 8 for 9 on the season and one was 4-4 in conference while the other was 3-4 in conference - I'm sure being 2 of 5 from under 30 didn't help (graham, in contrast, was a perfect 6 for 6 under 40 with a long of 46 while vaughn was 6 for 7 under 40) - the fact that he kicked 5 kickoffs out of bounds on the season couldn't have helped, either (neither vaughn or graham had a kickoff go out of bounds on the season) - also, i could only find one game in which the m'ville kicker hit a "huge kick"  (for these purposes defined as a late kick that had an impact on the game)...the 34 yard game winner in ot vs. ferrum...of course, had he made the 27 yarder in the 2nd quarter, m'ville wouldn't have needed that kick :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2007, 01:45:56 PM
Quote from: narch on November 16, 2007, 12:53:42 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2007, 09:02:29 AM
Well that is the second year in a row Locke has really been snubbed.  He was a preseason all-American and had solid numbers still when other teams would kick away from him on kickoffs, but hey sometimes it seems like the original conference members stick together on their post season awards.  No knock on the 3 guys that got the award.  I guess he should have expected it since last year he lead the conference in punt and kick return yards at got honorable mentioned whoo freaking hoo  :-\
if you're pimping him as a kick returner, the numbers don't back up your claims...teams kicked to him on 21 of 39 ko's this year and he averaged 19.4 yards per return, which was good for 10th in the conference and over 10 yards per return behind the leaders - in conference games, he was worse, with just a 17.1 yard per ko return average which was over 16 yards per return behind the conference leader and outside of the top 10 in the conference (and he still received 1/2 of the kickoffs) - as a punt returner he was 2nd overall, a full 2.5 yards per return behind the leader, but 3rd in conference games and over 8 yards per return behind the leader...being a preseason all-american has nothing to do with his numbers this year and teams clearly did not kick away from him...sorry – the numbers just don't lie...now if you're saying he should have been all-conference as a db, you might be right

as for your assertion that the original conference members stick together, how do explain the fact that m'ville had 4 more first and second team members than mu despite identical conference records...obviously, the coaches in the conference felt that m'ville was more talented than mu and showed no bias toward an original conference member

Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2007, 09:02:29 AMI also expected Brad Daniel should have been possibly second-team.  He has an extremely strong leg and since Maryville likes to keep everyone in the stands the whole game and win close, he banged some huge kicks home.
can't say i disagree here, especially since he kicked more fg's than anyone else in the conference...perhaps a poor percentage (11 for 21 overall and 8 for 14 in conference) cost him, especially since the first and second teamers were both 8 for 9 on the season and one was 4-4 in conference while the other was 3-4 in conference - I'm sure being 2 of 5 from under 30 didn't help (graham, in contrast, was a perfect 6 for 6 under 40 with a long of 46 while vaughn was 6 for 7 under 40) - the fact that he kicked 5 kickoffs out of bounds on the season couldn't have helped, either (neither vaughn or graham had a kickoff go out of bounds on the season) - also, i could only find one game in which the m'ville kicker hit a "huge kick"  (for these purposes defined as a late kick that had an impact on the game)...the 34 yard game winner in ot vs. ferrum...of course, had he made the 27 yarder in the 2nd quarter, m'ville wouldn't have needed that kick :)


I wasn't saying he deserved to be first, I was saying he should have probably been on there somewhere, I would have said at least honorable mentioned.  He wasn't top in the league, but he did have pretty good numbers.  3rd in Punt Average and Yards.  The Leader in punt average (and second in total yards 122 I believe) had 1 76 yard put return which more that half his total yards on the year, but other than that he averaged 10 yards a punt to Locke's 12.  Kick Returns average did hurt him, but he was 2nd in total Kickoff Return yards andc oupled with the punting stats he should have been at least honorable mentioned.

As far as the Daniel went, I was happy to see him get recognician.  Kicking has been a struggle the past few years and it was great to see him get recognized.  I do agree w/ you Narch that I think I was the poor percentage that pushed him down, but I can't say I am upset he is where he is.  I personally would have put him second, maybe I am a little bias... :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 16, 2007, 02:49:21 PM
Congrats to CNU DB Leroy Harper for being selected to play in the Aztec Bowl!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2007, 02:52:22 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 16, 2007, 02:49:21 PM
Congrats to CNU DB Leroy Harper for being selected to play in the Aztec Bowl!!

Very cool.  Congrats Harper!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2007, 02:56:36 PM
CNU Do you have a link to the list of players selected?  I am interested to see how may USA South players were selected.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on November 16, 2007, 08:18:23 PM
The Bishops should be stretching the kinks out by now and trying to get
some rest before the game. You know they're excited. If you go to ncwc.edu
and go to athletics, you'll se a link to the game @ 11:30 AM pregame and a
noon game start. I believe it will be video. Check it out!!!! If the defense plays
like I know they can then this will be quite interresting. Team speed will play a
huge role tomorrow. The W&J QB is a good one. Don't look for the lack of
playoff experience to be an excuse. I've watched this talented group from
DAY1. The young men have what it takes and the coaching staff is success
oriented.    GO BISHOPS!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2007, 09:53:17 PM
Thanks for the info Smith Reed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 16, 2007, 09:59:15 PM
call me crazy, but i think the bishops will pull out the "w"....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 17, 2007, 04:07:20 AM
most people that have followed this board for a few years would agree that you are a little crazy.

that doesn't mean i disagree with you.

Go USAC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2007, 09:21:02 AM
rocket - good win for your boys last night - saw the highlights on football friday - your boy had a nice game - i hope you can convince the monarch coaches that they need to go hard after him - there were a couple others that would look good in green & gold on that field, too :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob.Gregg on November 17, 2007, 09:34:40 AM
Broadcast link for North Carolina Wesleyan at Washington & Jefferson:

http://www.wjpa.com/sports.htm

This is the W&J home broadcast.  You'll get the slant, but you'll get a fair shake, I promise.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 17, 2007, 11:29:31 AM
NCW I don't give a damn how you get it done, just beat the Presidents. Bring more respect to our conference and good luck in the post season. You will find out soon enough that playoff football is so much more intense and exciting. Good luck and have fun.

Congrats to all those who made all conference from CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 17, 2007, 01:32:43 PM
NCW up 14-13 at the half!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 17, 2007, 02:45:40 PM
28-28 with 4:30 left in the 4th
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 17, 2007, 03:05:48 PM
Congratulations NCW on your over time win today knocking off the # 1 seed 35-34. I was listening to most of the second half. Great goal line D you guys had late in the 4th. Good luck to you next week. GO NCW!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 17, 2007, 03:09:02 PM
Awesome job, Bishops!! Great win for a young program AND a great win for the conference!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 17, 2007, 03:13:06 PM
Way to repersent the conference NCW
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 17, 2007, 03:27:20 PM
Congrats NCW on a huge win. As arrogant as past W&J teams were I know they prob licked their chops when they got paired against a USAC team but you guys punched them in the mouth. Congrats again & keep up the good work. I just have one ? for you. How does winning a playoff game feel? However this one feels I can guarantee tht 2 will feel a lot better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob.Gregg on November 17, 2007, 03:35:40 PM
First off, congrats to NCW on the win AT W&J today.

It was, however, far from a punch in the mouth.  But the team that executed more often won today.

Best wishes to the Bishops!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: religion_major on November 17, 2007, 03:44:18 PM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 17, 2007, 03:35:40 PM
First off, congrats to NCW on the win AT W&J today.

It was, however, far from a punch in the mouth.  But the team that executed more often won today.

Best wishes to the Bishops!

When a number eight seed beats a number one seed on the road, Bob, it is a punch in the mouth.  As a #1 you are expected to beat the #8 by a sizable number, so any loss by a #1 to a #8 is a big deal.  How do you like your crow served?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob.Gregg on November 17, 2007, 04:02:40 PM
I don't eat crow, particularly served by Doctors Of Hyperbole.

I've lived a long time, and followed sports for most of that long life.

Exactly when is that the world start calling a win something more than just a win?

When, exactly, did a 1-point win, become a punch in the mouth, Dr. Hyper?

You know what, never mind.

To the people that matter, the NCW fans and team, I called a fair, clean, decently played game.  I gave both sides their due.  Presented all the relevant factors of the contest, a 1-point overtime win for the Bishops who made more plays than the Presidents.  And I offered congratulations on a good win, their first-ever in the playoffs.

If you feel the need to call it a punch in the mouth, be my guest. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2007, 05:21:43 PM
told ya...

just had a hunch the bishops were going to get things done today - on the blog i had complained about ncwc getting an 8 seed (i felt like they were a superior team to hsc), but they obviously matched up well with the presidents...maybe it's a good thing they didn't get a rematch with wesley

there's a tough road ahea, though, in umhb...not sure the bishops have two in them, but it sure would be nice for the conference for them to make a run...

great job bishops!

bob.gregg - cnusfinest is a former cnu player who had a couple of seasons ended by the presidents...i think it would be ok if you allowed him to gloat over a presidents loss today - calling said loss a "punch in the mouth" is a pretty tame way to gloat, honestly, especially when the president's were a #1 seed losing to a #8 at home
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2007, 05:21:50 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2007, 02:56:36 PM
CNU Do you have a link to the list of players selected?  I am interested to see how may USA South players were selected.

No I don't. I read it on the CNU website. I'll search around and if I find something I'll post it for everyone.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2007, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 17, 2007, 04:02:40 PM
I don't eat crow, particularly served by Doctors Of Hyperbole.

I've lived a long time, and followed sports for most of that long life.

Exactly when is that the world start calling a win something more than just a win?

When, exactly, did a 1-point win, become a punch in the mouth, Dr. Hyper?

You know what, never mind.

To the people that matter, the NCW fans and team, I called a fair, clean, decently played game.  I gave both sides their due.  Presented all the relevant factors of the contest, a 1-point overtime win for the Bishops who made more plays than the Presidents.  And I offered congratulations on a good win, their first-ever in the playoffs.

If you feel the need to call it a punch in the mouth, be my guest. 

as my teenage daughter would say....."Dang, calm yourself"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2007, 05:28:42 PM
oops...almost forgot...Congrats (that's with a "T" not a "D" for some of you guys! Right, Narch?) to NCW. A nice win for the conference. And it was against a very tough opponent. A nice quality W for the Bishops. I didn't follow the game...how did it end a 1 pt win in OT? Did NCW make a 2 pt conversion or did they stop/block a kick.....????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob.Gregg on November 17, 2007, 05:30:18 PM
Quote from: narch on November 17, 2007, 05:21:43 PM
bob.gregg - cnusfinest is a former cnu player who had a couple of seasons ended by the presidents...i think it would be ok if you allowed him to gloat over a presidents loss today - calling said loss a "punch in the mouth" is a pretty tame way to gloat, honestly, especially when the president's were a #1 seed losing to a #8 at home

cnufinest can be my guest!

It's almost hysterical to watch someone "gloat" particularly when the thing they're gloating over they could never do themselves, nor help those around them do it either.

Seriously, I've got no problem with congratulations for the win, for the way it came about, for celebrating.  But it just wasn't a punch in the mouth.

Now, had the Bishops done what it looked like they might have--blow the Presidents out--THAT would have qualified as a punch in the mouth.

No big deal, really.

Post on!  Smite on!  Play on!  Good luck Bishops!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2007, 05:41:20 PM
bob.gregg - as an outsider, i've got to say you're seeming very much like a frustrated fan of a losing team...seeing you vent that frustration and downplay the loss is almost as hysterical to me as watching cnusfinest gloat is to you - i think it's commendable that a fan of a fellow conference member is happy to see another conference team accomplish something that his team could not

i'd say the first ever win by a #8 seed over a #1 seed is a pretty significant win, if not a "punch in the mouth", especially when that win is in a team's fourth year of existence and first ever playoff appearance
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2007, 05:55:20 PM
and on the road
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2007, 05:55:40 PM
wow....did Narch and I just agree on something?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2007, 06:02:09 PM
can't find the Aztec Bowl roster on line. I even tried afca.com.

I'll keep looking and I've sent a few emails out asking people in the know if they can find the roster for us.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2007, 06:09:06 PM
I just read the game notes on the W&J football page. Why would a team, at home, in the first OT, fake a PAT and try to run it in? Just kick it, and give your D a chance to stop it. Especially when you had the ball second in OT and you know, without a doubt, that if you get stopped you go home. That just doesn't make any sense to me. That is a type of play that an 8 seed would make on the road, not a #1 seed at home. If I was a W&J fan, I would be livid at the coach's decision to go for 2 in that situation!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2007, 06:11:13 PM
Good luck to NCW in Belton next week. At least it will be a little cooler than when I went down there in September. Your team speed and type of offense will do well on that field. I guarantee UMHB will be the fastest and hardest hitting team you have faced EVER!!

Punch 'em in the mouth!!! (Or at least win by 1)  :D ;D

Good Luck!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 17, 2007, 07:19:26 PM
Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 17, 2007, 05:30:18 PM
Quote from: narch on November 17, 2007, 05:21:43 PM
bob.gregg - cnusfinest is a former cnu player who had a couple of seasons ended by the presidents...i think it would be ok if you allowed him to gloat over a presidents loss today - calling said loss a "punch in the mouth" is a pretty tame way to gloat, honestly, especially when the president's were a #1 seed losing to a #8 at home

cnufinest can be my guest!

It's almost hysterical to watch someone "gloat" particularly when the thing they're gloating over they could never do themselves, nor help those around them do it either.

Seriously, I've got no problem with congratulations for the win, for the way it came about, for celebrating.  But it just wasn't a punch in the mouth.

Now, had the Bishops done what it looked like they might have--blow the Presidents out--THAT would have qualified as a punch in the mouth.

No big deal, really.

Post on!  Smite on!  Play on!  Good luck Bishops!

Ok Bobby call it a "slap in the face" ;D. Hysterical is your coach going for 2 in ot when they are the #1 seed at home in the South Region playoffs. Just like I said in one of my earlier post W&J is just plan arrogant, and according to a few D3 posters we don't know why.  I am extremly happy for NCW there is nothing like winning a playoff game so I just wanted to give them their due. They beat a so called #1 team at their place, in the playoffs, in their fourth year of existence. So don't try to minimize their accomplishments over your "Dead Presidents" that was a punch in a mouth no matter how you look at it because it sure did "knock them out of the playoffs".  ;D ;D It feels good having another USAC team win a playoff game and why not against the "Dead Presidents".

Figure it out....My team disappointed me not the Presidents.

Nov. 23 Christopher Newport #  W 24-10     
Nov. 30 at Trinity (Texas) #  L 45-10     

Nov. 20 Bridgewater (Va.) #  W 55-48 (2 OT)     
Nov. 27 Christopher Newport #  W 24-14     
Dec. 4 Mary Hardin-Baylor #  L 52-16 

GO Bishops....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 17, 2007, 07:37:34 PM
Congratulations to the Bishops!

Welcome to Texas!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on November 17, 2007, 09:37:33 PM
The Bishops managed to pull a rabbit out of their helmet today.
They played a good W&J team today and came away with a
victory. Bob Greg called a very objective game today. Kudos to you,
Bob. I enjoyed the calling of the game and the commentary. I hope you
read my comments before the game. NCW is a senior team so that
balanced their lack of playoff experience. The keys to today's victory
were team speed,tough defense,good coaching,headsup special teams,
and adequate offensive decision making. Now these young men have to
travel 1400 miles to play a football game against an even tougher opponent.
All I can say is play DEFENSE-- and GO BISHOPS!!!!!!!

P.S.Old Ref & NCWdad the men in blue & gold represented their school
and their conference well today.

Thanks for all the love on the board today. I say this as fan of NCW football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2007, 10:25:39 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 17, 2007, 07:37:34 PM
Congratulations to the Bishops!

Welcome to Texas!  :)

Ralph - didn't you say that exact thing before CNU came to town in Sept. Is that phrase a kiss of death!!!

Welcome to Texas! Ugghh...I want to forget that game!!

NCW is more athletic and faster than CNU - at least on offense. It should be a shootout!! Should be fun to watch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 18, 2007, 11:35:18 AM
Congratulations to the Battlin' Bishops!  Your prize is a trip to Texas!  You did it once, now just repeat until late on Saturday afternoon, December 15th.  :)  NCWC obviously has a fine team.  I won't be there this Saturday, but I sincerely hope I get a chance to see you play in person this season.  Go NCWC!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on November 18, 2007, 05:47:03 PM
Just out of curiosity will NCW get any financial support from NCAA for the trip to Texas? I've been curious how that works in the playoffs. Didn't know if there was help or not. Seems like CNU put a six-figure amount on the cost of going down there in the regular season, but that was ona charter flight.

Congrats to NCW. It was a good win, overtime, 1pt or not, its a playoff win — something the USAC needed. Wouldnt even have needed ot if the kicker makes that field goal with 7 seconds left. I can see some shrewdness and arrogance in faking a PAT in first OT. You really could win it because who is expecting any coach to make that call in that situation? Flip side, why in the hell risk it unless you're afraid of not keeping up? And who knows maybe that's a possibility. NCW came out the bad side last year in that four ot game at Murvul but it certainly showed even then they could match you score for score when they get the ball that close to start a drive.

Would love to see them pull the shocker at MHB but I have the feel the speed factor that has been so important is about even in that pairing.

BTB A punch in the mouth is an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty usually accompanied by an ejection. ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 18, 2007, 06:03:35 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on November 18, 2007, 05:47:03 PM
Just out of curiosity will NCW get any financial support from NCAA for the trip to Texas? I've been curious how that works in the playoffs. Didn't know if there was help or not. Seems like CNU put a six-figure amount on the cost of going down there in the regular season, but that was ona charter flight.

Congrats to NCW. It was a good win, overtime, 1pt or not, its a playoff win — something the USAC needed. Wouldnt even have needed ot if the kicker makes that field goal with 7 seconds left. I can see some shrewdness and arrogance in faking a PAT in first OT. You really could win it because who is expecting any coach to make that call in that situation? Flip side, why in the hell risk it unless you're afraid of not keeping up? And who knows maybe that's a possibility. NCW came out the bad side last year in that four ot game at Murvul but it certainly showed even then they could match you score for score when they get the ball that close to start a drive.

Would love to see them pull the shocker at MHB but I have the feel the speed factor that has been so important is about even in that pairing.

BTB A punch in the mouth is an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty usually accompanied by an ejection. ::)

The NCAA pays for the travel in the playoffs. Hence the 52 man roster and the Texas sub-bracket each year. The less flights the cheaper in the NCAA's eye. In this case it was a flight either way since a W&J win would have required a UMHB flight. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2007, 08:39:59 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on November 18, 2007, 05:47:03 PM

BTB A punch in the mouth is an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty usually accompanied by an ejection. ::)

Only if you get caught!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 18, 2007, 09:38:13 PM
Just wanted to send a note to congratulate the Bishops on a very nice win in the play-offs. With their speed, depth, and athletic ability I can see them playing a good game in Texas. Although, they really have their work cut out for them. In my eyes, I see their success as a positive in the following ways- (1) It is always a positive for everyone in the conf. when any team has success in the play-offs. (2) For Maryville, it shows that if they are able to continue to improve that maybe just maybe they might be in the same situation. With that they must find ways to when those games that have large conf. implications. i.e. games against NCWC, CNU, that pesky Methodist team- who has become to be a Homecoming game demon, and for that matter everyone else in the conf. Good Luck to the Bishops in Texas.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 19, 2007, 12:50:35 AM
85, et al: The Aztec Bowl roster is not finalized until the week before so that seniors on teams eliminated from the playoffs can be included.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on November 19, 2007, 07:35:49 AM
HIGHLANDER- Isnt a homecoming game supposed to be against a team you know you can beat? Actually in all honesty, both games have been really well. We came in in 2005, second in the conference, and you guys gave us a game. That game has turned out to be pretty close all three years. I say they keep it going.

Congrats to NCWC, i had you guys chosen to win. Looking at the stats and seeing how they compared to you guys, i knew they owuld be the 1 seed eliminated. Great job guys, keep it rolling.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob.Gregg on November 19, 2007, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: Smith Reed on November 17, 2007, 09:37:33 PM
The Bishops managed to pull a rabbit out of their helmet today.
They played a good W&J team today and came away with a
victory. Bob Greg called a very objective game today. Kudos to you,
Bob. I enjoyed the calling of the game and the commentary. I hope you
read my comments before the game.

Thanks, Smith Reed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 19, 2007, 12:10:57 PM
Congrats to NCWC for their victory. You have made the entire USAC proud. Good luck in Texas.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 19, 2007, 12:48:01 PM
Quote from: MU_ftbl51 on November 19, 2007, 07:35:49 AM
HIGHLANDER- Isnt a homecoming game supposed to be against a team you know you can beat?

Yeah and the year before we had Christopher Newport for our Homecoming... puke! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 19, 2007, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 19, 2007, 12:48:01 PM
Quote from: MU_ftbl51 on November 19, 2007, 07:35:49 AM
HIGHLANDER- Isnt a homecoming game supposed to be against a team you know you can beat?

Yeah and the year before we had Christopher Newport for our Homecoming... puke! 

If that's the case, who does Duke schedule for homecoming?  ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 19, 2007, 05:39:13 PM
I do not know how the Homecoming is planned. I think that the weekend is determined by the Alumni Office w/o any regard to who the opponent is that weekend. All I do know is the fact that Methodist has become a team that has really been a thorn in Maryville's side in Homecoming games. I do agree that all of the matchups have been well played games by both teams. Maybe, its kind of like the relationship between the respective Head Coaches.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 20, 2007, 10:33:15 AM
I have some really sad news to report.  Last night, the Fighting Scots secondary coach Cody Bowers was in a car wreck and died.  Details are still coming in and are a little sketchy at the moment but it is a very sad situation.  I knew Cody personally for 7 years now as I went to college with him and we were good friends.  He was a great man and a great friend.  I can't say enough about his kindness and willing to be there when you needed any help.  I greatly miss him already.  He was a true fighting scot.  Cody will be greatly missed not only by me, but also by the entire Maryville community.  My thoughts and prayers are with his family at this most difficult time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2007, 10:37:06 AM
Prayers to the Fighting Scot family!  :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on November 20, 2007, 01:14:48 PM
May God hold this coach's family in His hands!!  :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 20, 2007, 03:34:59 PM
Although I have never even heard this coach's name before, I have a feeling of loss right now. My prayers go out to his family and his friends, especially to ProudFightingScot!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: laz on November 20, 2007, 06:17:49 PM
My son phoned me today from Knoxville to inform me of Cody's untimely death. My heart felt sympathy goes out to his family and to the MC community. Cody was an inspiration to everyone he met, played and coached with. He was a little giant on and off the field. On a personal note: He always remembered me and never failed to take time to walk over and say "hi", no matter how long it had been since we'd last seen one another. He epitomized the D-III football student athlete and he will be missed.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 20, 2007, 07:41:39 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 20, 2007, 10:33:15 AM
I have some really sad news to report.  Last night, the Fighting Scots secondary coach Cody Bowers was in a car wreck and died.  Details are still coming in and are a little sketchy at the moment but it is a very sad situation.  I knew Cody personally for 7 years now as I went to college with him and we were good friends.  He was a great man and a great friend.  I can't say enough about his kindness and willing to be there when you needed any help.  I greatly miss him already.  He was a true fighting scot.  Cody will be greatly missed not only by me, but also by the entire Maryville community.  My thoughts and prayers are with his family at this most difficult time.

     I met Cody at the tailgate several hours prior to the Methodist HC game this year. He and I chatted about MC football for 10 or 15 minutes. I was very impressed with this young man and that he took the time to come by and introduce himself to some of the old timers. He genuinely seemed appreciative of all the folks who came back to campus to support the Scots.This is just terrible news.  :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 20, 2007, 08:19:41 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on November 20, 2007, 07:41:39 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 20, 2007, 10:33:15 AM
I have some really sad news to report.  Last night, the Fighting Scots secondary coach Cody Bowers was in a car wreck and died.  Details are still coming in and are a little sketchy at the moment but it is a very sad situation.  I knew Cody personally for 7 years now as I went to college with him and we were good friends.  He was a great man and a great friend.  I can't say enough about his kindness and willing to be there when you needed any help.  I greatly miss him already.  He was a true fighting scot.  Cody will be greatly missed not only by me, but also by the entire Maryville community.  My thoughts and prayers are with his family at this most difficult time.

     I met Cody at the tailgate several hours prior to the Methodist HC game this year. He and I chatted about MC football for 10 or 15 minutes. I was very impressed with this young man and that he took the time to come by and introduce himself to some of the old timers. He genuinely seemed appreciative of all the folks who came back to campus to support the Scots.This is just terrible news.  :'(

     This is really bothering me. The place that he crashed is the most unlikely of places for something like this to happen. Alcoa Highway....yes...College Woods Ln....no. I took a stroll down this road to the House In The Woods the AM of HC. Very surreal. My prayers are with Cody's family and friends.  :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 20, 2007, 08:48:30 PM
my heart goes out to the entire m'ville community and the family and friends of this coach...sounds like they lost a great person, friend and coach
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 20, 2007, 08:55:36 PM
wow, it is a shame for the lose and my prayers go out to the family and team.  it really puts things in perspective and reminds us all that it is just a game, but the people we meet along the way are what makes it so special.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 20, 2007, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on November 20, 2007, 08:19:41 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on November 20, 2007, 07:41:39 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 20, 2007, 10:33:15 AM
I have some really sad news to report.  Last night, the Fighting Scots secondary coach Cody Bowers was in a car wreck and died.  Details are still coming in and are a little sketchy at the moment but it is a very sad situation.  I knew Cody personally for 7 years now as I went to college with him and we were good friends.  He was a great man and a great friend.  I can't say enough about his kindness and willing to be there when you needed any help.  I greatly miss him already.  He was a true fighting scot.  Cody will be greatly missed not only by me, but also by the entire Maryville community.  My thoughts and prayers are with his family at this most difficult time.

     I met Cody at the tailgate several hours prior to the Methodist HC game this year. He and I chatted about MC football for 10 or 15 minutes. I was very impressed with this young man and that he took the time to come by and introduce himself to some of the old timers. He genuinely seemed appreciative of all the folks who came back to campus to support the Scots.This is just terrible news.  :'(

     This is really bothering me. The place that he crashed is the most unlikely of places for something like this to happen. Alcoa Highway....yes...College Woods Ln....no. I took a stroll down this road to the House In The Woods the AM of HC. Very surreal. My prayers are with Cody's family and friends.  :(

I also heard that it was foggy that night, it probably had something to do with it.  This is just so surreal like it can't be real.  You never really know how long you have.  He was my friend and it just hurts.  I would just give anything to get my friend back.  The Scots community will band together as Cody would have wanted and we will get through this together.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MU_ftbl51 on November 21, 2007, 07:37:16 AM
My hearts and prayers go out to all of you at Maryville. It counds like you lost a great coach, but more importantly a friend. We will be praying for his family.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 21, 2007, 10:12:06 AM
My condolences go out to the Maryville community. The posts about his life and his impacts are a nice tribute.

My thoughts and prayers will be with you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 21, 2007, 11:41:45 AM
My thoughts and prayers to everyone at Maryville, and especially to this young man's family.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bob.Gregg on November 21, 2007, 12:40:47 PM
I won't be around THIS site much over the next three days, and I don't want this to be forgotten:

Good luck to the North Carolina Wesleyan Battlin' Bishops!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on November 21, 2007, 02:50:45 PM
Below is the link to the stories on Cody's death.
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071121/NEWS/71121010 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071121/NEWS/71121010)

It was a very hard day around campus but one thing that I thought relevant — one of Cody's last tasks Monday afternoon was arranging for subway to deliver lunch to NCW. The Bishops cafaterias were closing up for the holiday break and as a show of support Maryville bought the team lunch.

He was just a good guy.

The aciddent experts are still back stepping the incident and there are some updates coming out but for my part I'm sticking with who he was and not how he left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 21, 2007, 03:18:36 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on November 21, 2007, 02:50:45 PM
The aciddent experts are still back stepping the incident and there are some updates coming out but for my part I'm sticking with who he was and not how he left.


As well we all who knew him should...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: union89 on November 21, 2007, 11:42:21 PM
God Bless.....terrible story at this time to give Thanks.....my prayers are with the young man, his family and the Maryville football community......sorry for your loss.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 22, 2007, 12:01:40 AM
Batterboard,

Please pass our thanks to the Daily Times staff on the sensativity in reporting Cody's death from the news articles from the past few days.  I have been in contact with many of my friends from Maryville and most have read the articles to keep them informed on this tragedy.   I was very impressed with the article you wrote and am posting it so others could read it as well.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20071121/NEWS/71121008

I still can't get over how the last thing Cody did at Maryville was to arrange sandwiches to be sent to the NC Weslyan coaching staff so things could be a little easier for them during their preparation for their playoff game this weekend.....

Classy guy....

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 22, 2007, 12:24:41 PM
Sorry to hear about coach. The kids will be the losers as well

Greetings from Iraq................No football here
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 22, 2007, 08:34:56 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 22, 2007, 12:24:41 PM
Sorry to hear about coach. The kids will be the losers as well

Greetings from Iraq................No football here

Hey Tom - good to hear from you again. I left a post for you on the ODAC board - be safe!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on November 23, 2007, 10:26:22 AM
My sympathy to the family of Coach Bowers and the M'ville community,
it always hurts to see a young promising life come to a tragic end. My
love to all involved.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Smith Reed on November 23, 2007, 10:41:57 AM
The men of NCW are traveling now and all that I have said before still
stands. A solid defense, good decision making on offense and the know
how of the coaching staff will carry them throughout the playoffs.
GO Bishops!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Kelly Boggs on November 23, 2007, 11:30:41 AM
For all interested parties: According to Weather Underground, Saturday's forecast for Belton, Texas and the NCW vs. UMHB game is for temps in the lower 40s with a 90% chance of rain and northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 23, 2007, 02:21:04 PM
Good luck NCW.  All of Maryville is proud of the Battling Bishops.  Get a great win for the USA-South on Saturday.

Be safe abnrgr.  You and the rest of the soldiers are our real heroes.....

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC on November 23, 2007, 10:24:25 PM
Quote from: UMHBalum-n-CenLa on November 23, 2007, 11:30:41 AM
For all interested parties: According to Weather Underground, Saturday's forecast for Belton, Texas and the NCW vs. UMHB game is for temps in the lower 40s with a 90% chance of rain and northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.


Jack Ginn simulates those conditions in practice every day, no sleeves or gloves
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 24, 2007, 05:35:38 PM
64-0.....dang.....

I knew it was over when Ralph posted "Welcome to Texas"!!!

Ok...I will be at the Stagg Bowl.......I'm hoping UMHB will be there.....I will be a Crusader fan that day. If someone will bring me a hat, I'll be glad to either pay for it, or trade a CNU hat that you can let your dog play with in the back yard!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 24, 2007, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: NCWC on November 23, 2007, 10:24:25 PMJack Ginn simulates those conditions in practice every day, no sleeves or gloves
not well enough, apparently :)

ncwc, great run this season - umhb is a great football team and going into their place and winning in the playoffs isn't easy - don't hang your heads for too long...you've done something very few other teams have done in their 4th year of existence!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2007, 09:51:25 PM
From what I am reading on the ASC board NCW was no prepared for the weather
that greated them today. Tough to keep your head inh a game when you are chilled and wet before the game starts.

Congrats to NCW on a great season. Don't let one game ruin what you have accomplished.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on November 24, 2007, 11:54:49 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on November 24, 2007, 09:51:25 PM
From what I am reading on the ASC board NCW was no prepared for the weather
that greated them today. Tough to keep your head inh a game when you are chilled and wet before the game starts.

Congrats to NCW on a great season. Don't let one game ruin what you have accomplished.



LOL yeah the weather had something to do with it. NCWC was lucky to get an overrated 1 seed in the first round, and got their wake up call today.

Happened all over the country. The NCAA needs to do something about how they go about selecting and seeding teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Toby Taff on November 25, 2007, 12:49:18 AM
Quote from: Spence on November 24, 2007, 11:54:49 PM

LOL yeah the weather had something to do with it.

I'm guessing this was sarcastic (that's the trouble with the written word, no inflection so you have to guess), but the weather may have played a role.  NCWC was on the sideline without jackets, gloves, blankets...anything to keep them dry or warm.  Most of the team, qb included, didn't even have hand warmers.  The field was slick, there was no cutting hard or bouncing out if you were going forward so when they tried to run in the middle, there was no ability to cut back into an open hole.  I'm not saying they would have won or that it would have been close, but I think the weather did effect their play
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 25, 2007, 01:36:12 AM
I would just like to take a moment to express to you all just how much Cody Bowers meant to everyone. I had the privilege of knowing this young man and his family for several years, having attended the same high school and college as Cody (even though I am several years older). When I think of Cody the one thing that stands out to me was just how polite and well- mannered this young man was. In this day it is often rare to find someone that is truly genuine in his morals. This is a very difficult time for all of us in the Maryville and Loudon communities. Please remember his family in your prayers, and it is my prayer that no other college family will have to go through a tragedy such as this. I know that without a doubt that I am a better person for having known Cody Bowers.

God Bless You Cody Bowers
Once A Redskin, Always A Redskin.
It's A Great Day To Be A What? Fighting Scot!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crufootball on November 25, 2007, 08:46:50 PM
I would just like to congrats the players of NCW for a great season. Coming from a school that is young in years of football, I know how great of an accomplishment it is to already be making the second round of the playoffs. Wish that the weather could have been better for the game, but I guess that is to be expected when you are playing football this deep into the year.

Also congrats to any of you who made it to Belton, the weather was terrible and the trip was long but you guys made some noise for your boys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 26, 2007, 12:19:21 AM
Quote from: Highlander on November 25, 2007, 01:36:12 AM
I would just like to take a moment to express to you all just how much Cody Bowers meant to everyone. I had the privilege of knowing this young man and his family for several years, having attended the same high school and college as Cody (even though I am several years older). When I think of Cody the one thing that stands out to me was just how polite and well- mannered this young man was. In this day it is often rare to find someone that is truly genuine in his morals. This is a very difficult time for all of us in the Maryville and Loudon communities. Please remember his family in your prayers, and it is my prayer that no other college family will have to go through a tragedy such as this. I know that without a doubt that I am a better person for having known Cody Bowers.

God Bless You Cody Bowers
Once A Redskin, Always A Redskin.
It's A Great Day To Be A What? Fighting Scot!!!

Amen to that Highlander... Amen to that...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 26, 2007, 11:27:31 AM
Congrats to NCWC for a great year. Take Saturdays game and learn from it. That's all you can do.

Congrats to Snake for going 8-0 in the picks this past weekend ... probably the one guy in the country that picked Central to beat St. Johns.........good luck the rest of the way..

Ryan, its been a pleasure and loads of fun. Look forward to doing it again next year.

I will continue to follow the boards as I have learned a great deal about DIII football in past two years. Probably won't talk a lot but do a great deal of reading and listening. Hopefully I will have something to brag about next season.

FYI, my vote is that Mt. Union will go all the way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 26, 2007, 06:43:02 PM
Keith and I both picked Central.

http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/2007/11/23/triple-take-picking-second-round-games
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 27, 2007, 07:07:17 PM
Aztec Bowl Roster.



http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=67754&SPID=7653&DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=1327566 (http://www.afca.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=67754&SPID=7653&DB_OEM_ID=9300&ATCLID=1327566)

Congrats to Jezreel Davis of NCW and LeRoy Harper of CNU - heading to Mexico to rep the conference and their schools!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 01, 2007, 01:00:04 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen
It is a cool 43 right now; just right for a football game. But alas no grass just sand and large rocks. No wonder they are miserable  here. No football!!

Well let me assure you that while you are sleeping that thousands of young brave Americans are prowling the skys and road looking for bad people.

You would be proud, humbled I should say to see them in action. Let me assure you that I am in a support role because of my age so I am not taking credit.

Peace.......well not really ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 01, 2007, 02:32:46 AM
Good morning abnrgr,

This week, I spoke with a mother of a soldier, whose son is over there.  She talked about the new water and sewage treatment facility that they had just completed.  Finally, water so clear that you could read a newspaper thru the glass!  Not drinking sewage any longer!

Mothers, taking their children to school.  The things that those men and women are doing!

Her son turned 21 during his tour.  Her brothers had been in Viet Nam and said that his return for R&R would be surreal, so the mother and the uncles brought him back to Las Vegas.  They all met him there.  She gave him $2000 to spend at the Craps tables and just enjoyed watching him learn.  Up $4000, down to $100, back up again.  What a wild time they had as she smiled with the pride and joy.  Oh, she is proud of her son.

No greater love is there than for a man to lay down his life for another.  I hope that sacrifice will not occur, but to believe in that, and to act upon those convictions, is to understand things far greater than we ourselves.

I am grateful for my "band of brothers", both of them. The experience was not nearly as demanding as the vernacular suggests, but significant to me nonetheless.  In some ways, I have never been prouder or more deeply humbled than my experience with them.

Travel safely, abnrgr!  My prayers are with you and yours.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on December 01, 2007, 08:51:04 PM
Amen!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on December 01, 2007, 08:56:45 PM
well spoke ralph.  my son is going to afghanistan at the end of this month.

abnrgr, thanks for serving and be safe.  we are proud of all the soldiers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cruprez on December 01, 2007, 09:39:14 PM
God Bless Our troops and their families.....my son did 3 tours in Iraq..with the last one finding his truck blown up....he returned to us unharmed and now is in Germany for 3 years....my sister lost her son in Iraq....2 days after his daughters first birthday....a pain and emptyness no family should have to endure....but we are proud of him -- he was doing what he loved (next to playing football!)...I AM PROUD of all our soldiers and know the GOOD we are doing in Iraq!  STAY safe and I will continue to pray for your safe return!

God Bless you!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on December 03, 2007, 12:20:11 AM
Come One Come All to Stone Station's 4th Annual Christmas Party

Saturday December 15th, 2007

9am - 9pm

Salem Stadium Parkinglot , Salem, VA

Menu
BBQ Chicken Quarters
BBQ Pork
Fried Turkey
Potatoes
Chips
& Olinemom's Brownies!

As always, first come, first served. Join us as we watch the crowning of another D3 Football Champion!

In lieu of presents, just bring your favorite flavor of Boone's Farm by the bottle!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on December 03, 2007, 09:25:24 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on December 03, 2007, 12:20:11 AM
Come One Come All to Stone Station's 4th Annual Christmas Party

Saturday December 15th, 2007

9am - 9pm

Salem Stadium Parkinglot , Salem, VA

Menu
BBQ Chicken Quarters
BBQ Pork
Fried Turkey
Potatoes
Chips
& Olinemom's Brownies!

As always, first come, first served. Join us as we watch the crowning of another D3 Football Champion!

In lieu of presents, just bring your favorite flavor of Boone's Farm by the bottle!  :D

I'm hunting for "Captain's Blue" flavor. See you on the night of the 14th
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 06, 2007, 04:06:54 PM
Just noticed on Averett's web site that they have posted the 2008 schedule already and they have Bridgewater scheduled for the 1st game. Dunlevy loves to play the best.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on December 07, 2007, 12:57:48 PM
Today let us remember our Soldiers and Sailors who lost their lives at Pearl Harbor and those who survived the attack in our prayers and thoughts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on December 09, 2007, 10:19:03 PM
Some food for thought for you folks.

This past year, it was a little tricky juggling my ATR column and the USA South pick-em contest. Since I'll be continuing next season with my column, I'm probably not going to run the pick-ems then. So if anyone is interested in picking up the slack, let me know!

I hope that they will go on, and I'll certainly participate if they do. The tallying, stat-searching and spead-making were heck of a lot of fun to do. Ask Kid. He'll attest to that, too, since he's the ODAC's guru. The combination of things are just a bit much for me to handle in a season.

So, I hope someone will carry the torch in 2008. I can send you the spreadsheet file that has all of my coding built into it.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on December 10, 2007, 08:41:22 AM
congrats to all the usasac players who made d3football.com's all-region team (http://www.d3football.com/all-region/2007_d3football_all-south_region.pdf), especially darryl lawrence, who was named a 2nd teamer

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on December 12, 2007, 05:13:29 PM
Nice article  (http://www.su.edu/athletics/hornets_news.cfm?spid=1839) on the SU website highlighting former hornet Anthony Hayes making the roster for the Amarillo Dusters of Arena Football League 2.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 12, 2007, 05:40:36 PM
Quote from: SU97 on December 12, 2007, 05:13:29 PM
Nice article  (http://www.su.edu/athletics/hornets_news.cfm?spid=1839) on the SU website highlighting former hornet Anthony Hayes making the roster for the Amarillo Dusters of Arena Football League 2.
Anthony's moving to Amarillo may be culture shock.  It's not Kansas, but you can see it from there!

Dare him to eat the 72 oz steak (http://www.bigtexan.com/)!

I'll bet he cannot do it!   :D  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CantMesWitDis on December 15, 2007, 04:00:15 PM
Does anyone really know how this All-Region team is built?   Just comparing WR's Jesse Bradshaw from CNU out performed both 2nd team guys by FAR, so how does he get 3rd team?  Is it more of a favoritism or popularity contest rather than a stats and how much you contribute to a team?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on December 25, 2007, 12:12:13 AM
Happy Holidays to all
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 25, 2007, 02:28:19 PM
merry christmas
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: evacuee on December 28, 2007, 02:10:23 PM
If you want to promote division 3 sports, do a google search for pontiac game changing performance and vote for the only d3 play that will likely be seen there for a long time.  We only have a few days left and Appalachain State is currently in the lead. 

A vote for Trinity is a vote for d3football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on December 28, 2007, 02:19:37 PM
Already all over that one  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 05, 2008, 10:31:26 AM
Check out the Daily Dose. I pieced together some thoughts about the Orange Bowl and Stagg Bowl. I hope you find it entertaining
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on January 08, 2008, 01:48:20 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on January 05, 2008, 10:31:26 AM
Check out the Daily Dose. I pieced together some thoughts about the Orange Bowl and Stagg Bowl. I hope you find it entertaining
good stuff, '85
Title: Shenandoah Considering Field Turf
Post by: pakownr97 on January 17, 2008, 12:00:05 PM
Just say "NO" to the fake stuff.  It is definitely better than the old astroturf crap, but Shentel is a beautiful stadium with real grass.

It sounds like the people who want the fake stuff want it so other sports can play on the same field.  The new turf is much more durable than grass.

Call me a traditionalist, but there is nothing better than a beautiful football stadium with natural grass.

Either way, Bridgewater will beat Shenandoah every year no matter the surface, location, weather, etc.

Oops.  Sorry.  I couldn't resist.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on January 17, 2008, 10:27:55 PM
I was a die-hard grass fan until I saw a game last September at Salem Stadium. Wow! My impressions had been stuck on the old astroturf, but seeing and feeling the new stuff, I think I may have changed my tune.

That said....

Shentel is awesome the way it is now. The grass adds to the natural feel and surroundings of the stadium that give it the aura it has. Turf may make things there seem more "phony," if that's the right word. In this case, I'd be in favor of keeping grass at the stadium. But (and this is a big "but") the groundskeepers need to mow it regularly. When I was there last season, the depth of the grass darn near swallowed my shoes!  :D

Quote from: pakownr97 on January 17, 2008, 12:00:05 PM
Either way, Bridgewater will beat Shenandoah every year no matter the surface, location, weather, etc.

Hmmm, pumping yourself up picking on the USA South's 2-8 team? Setting that brass ring a little low, are we?

Oops.  Sorry.  I couldn't resist.  ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 19, 2008, 10:46:15 AM
Congrats to CNU's Leroy Harper. The Schipper Award is an outstanding honor!

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-cnubrief0118,0,835792.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-cnubrief0118,0,835792.story)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on January 30, 2008, 01:16:43 PM
After 11 days without a post on this board, I figured I'd try to shake off some of the dust.

Here's a peek at some of the posted skeds:
FERRUM
September:
6 -- Emory & Henry
13 -- Southern Virginia
20 -- at Bridgewater
27 -- Shenandoah (Family Weekend)
October:
4 -- at Averett
11 -- Maryville
18 -- at Methodist
November:
1 -- at Greensboro
8 -- N.C. Wesleyan
15 -- Christopher Newport

Still playing SoVa?! Argh!! I can't wait for that deal to expire.
Also, odd that E&H is again at home and BC is again on the road.

SHENANDOAH
September:
6 -- Catholic
13 -- at Bridgewater
20 -- at Albright
27 -- at Ferrum
October:
4 -- Christopher Newport
18 -- at Greensboro
25 -- N.C. Wesleyan
November:
1 -- Averett
8 -- at Maryville
15 -- Methodist



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on January 30, 2008, 01:37:38 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on January 17, 2008, 10:27:55 PM
I was a die-hard grass fan until I saw a game last September at Salem Stadium. Wow! My impressions had been stuck on the old astroturf, but seeing and feeling the new stuff, I think I may have changed my tune.

That said....

Shentel is awesome the way it is now. The grass adds to the natural feel and surroundings of the stadium that give it the aura it has. Turf may make things there seem more "phony," if that's the right word. In this case, I'd be in favor of keeping grass at the stadium. But (and this is a big "but") the groundskeepers need to mow it regularly. When I was there last season, the depth of the grass darn near swallowed my shoes!  :D

Quote from: pakownr97 on January 17, 2008, 12:00:05 PM
Either way, Bridgewater will beat Shenandoah every year no matter the surface, location, weather, etc.

Hmmm, pumping yourself up picking on the USA South's 2-8 team? Setting that brass ring a little low, are we?

Oops.  Sorry.  I couldn't resist.  ;) ;D ;D ;D

     

No doubt in a perfect world, real grass would be the best choice. I have had the opportunity to walk on the new field turf a couple of times now. Stuff is pretty sweet. A far cry from the old astro (hard as concrete, tear up your knee) turf.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC on February 12, 2008, 02:55:34 PM
Jack Ginn is leaving.  An assistant is taking his place.  Read all about it.
http://annex.ncwc.edu/athletics/Football/2007-08/news/henninger_hiring.htm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on February 12, 2008, 03:18:36 PM
Good luck to him.  He did a great job with the program.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 13, 2008, 03:52:25 PM
Wow! Good luck to Coach Ginn. He was a top notch coach and did a great job with a start up program at NCW.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 13, 2008, 06:08:57 PM
CNU85

You may get your wish? I understand that Wesley will be in Va. early next season.
I hope that it's a two year commitmnet so I get to see CNU in '09
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: used2b on February 14, 2008, 11:00:22 AM
pretty hard to beleive Ginn would leave for position coaching duties at a D2. Must be money, problems at NCWC or most probably the cubbard is bare.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC on February 14, 2008, 01:00:27 PM
Quote from: used2b on February 14, 2008, 11:00:22 AM
pretty hard to beleive Ginn would leave for position coaching duties at a D2. Must be money, problems at NCWC or most probably the cubbard is bare.

Or all three
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 14, 2008, 01:35:30 PM
wow...as a monarch fan i can't say i'm disappointed, but that's a tough loss for the conference as a whole...i thought he was a great coach - it is interesting to see him leaving for a position coaching job, even at a powerhouse d2
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 14, 2008, 09:48:40 PM
The NCW homers might be able to fill in the blanks, but I have to wonder what kind of administration support the Bishop football program has. The one "home" game I went to had some of the most barren stands I've ever seen....and this was the week after their very tight and exciting game against Wesley.

If the fan base isn't there, it wouldn't surprise me if the administration backing isn't as well. I wonder how much Ginn just wanted to coach in front of a bigger audience. That would have significantly swayed my decision if I were him. Though this is just speculation.

And I agree with narch, I'm surprised he's going to a position role, especially with all of the D3 HC jobs that had opened up this offseason. Seems like there was plenty of opportunity to be a top-dog in a greener pasture.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 16, 2008, 08:29:17 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on February 13, 2008, 06:08:57 PM
CNU85

You may get your wish? I understand that Wesley will be in Va. early next season.
I hope that it's a two year commitmnet so I get to see CNU in '09

I thought I read somewhere that it was a 2 yr deal......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 16, 2008, 10:26:16 PM
Boy CNU85 I hope you are right.. Wesley is having a fit trying to schedule. They are trying to reup with Del Val, Widener has already saiod no to extending beyond next year, And St John Fisher and Ithaca both turned Wesley down. They are playing 2 DII's, a IAA. And I understand they only have three home games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 18, 2008, 01:21:29 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on February 16, 2008, 10:26:16 PM
Boy CNU85 I hope you are right.. Wesley is having a fit trying to schedule. They are trying to reup with Del Val, Widener has already saiod no to extending beyond next year, And St John Fisher and Ithaca both turned Wesley down. They are playing 2 DII's, a IAA. And I understand they only have three home games.

Ouch! 3 home games!!??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on February 18, 2008, 02:10:18 PM
CNU just released its schedule for 08

Sept. 6, Wesley at home
Sept. 20 at Salisbury
Sept. 27 at Wilkes
Oct. 4 at Shenandoah
Oct. 11 vs. Greensboro
Oct. 18 at Maryville
Oct. 25 vs. Methodist
Nov. 1 at NCW
Nov. 8 vs. Averett
Nov. 15 vs. Ferrum

all games are at 1, except at Shenandoah (7 pm) and at Maryville (2 pm)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 18, 2008, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on February 18, 2008, 02:10:18 PM
CNU just released its schedule for 08

Sept. 6, Wesley at home
Sept. 20 at Salisbury
Sept. 27 at Wilkes
Oct. 4 at Shenandoah
Oct. 11 vs. Greensboro
Oct. 18 at Maryville
Oct. 25 vs. Methodist
Nov. 1 at NCW
Nov. 8 vs. Averett
Nov. 15 vs. Ferrum

all games are at 1, except at Shenandoah (7 pm) and at Maryville (2 pm)

Brutal!!!

Wesley is tough no matter where you lpay them. Same for Salisbury and Wilkes....and we are on the road against them. At Shenandoah! I hate that place! At Maryville....At defending conf champ NCW......

Yikes!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 18, 2008, 10:12:34 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on February 18, 2008, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on February 18, 2008, 02:10:18 PM
CNU just released its schedule for 08

Sept. 6, Wesley at home
Sept. 20 at Salisbury
Sept. 27 at Wilkes
Oct. 4 at Shenandoah
Oct. 11 vs. Greensboro
Oct. 18 at Maryville
Oct. 25 vs. Methodist
Nov. 1 at NCW
Nov. 8 vs. Averett
Nov. 15 vs. Ferrum

all games are at 1, except at Shenandoah (7 pm) and at Maryville (2 pm)

Brutal!!!

Wesley is tough no matter where you lpay them. Same for Salisbury and Wilkes....and we are on the road against them. At Shenandoah! I hate that place! At Maryville....At defending conf champ NCW......

Yikes!

And then you wrap up the regular season with the hardest of all your 10 games!!  ;) :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 18, 2008, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on February 18, 2008, 10:12:34 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on February 18, 2008, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on February 18, 2008, 02:10:18 PM
CNU just released its schedule for 08

Sept. 6, Wesley at home
Sept. 20 at Salisbury
Sept. 27 at Wilkes
Oct. 4 at Shenandoah
Oct. 11 vs. Greensboro
Oct. 18 at Maryville
Oct. 25 vs. Methodist
Nov. 1 at NCW
Nov. 8 vs. Averett
Nov. 15 vs. Ferrum

all games are at 1, except at Shenandoah (7 pm) and at Maryville (2 pm)

Brutal!!!

Wesley is tough no matter where you lpay them. Same for Salisbury and Wilkes....and we are on the road against them. At Shenandoah! I hate that place! At Maryville....At defending conf champ NCW......

Yikes!

And then you wrap up the regular season with the hardest of all your 10 games!!  ;) :D

as the commercial says,

Dude!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on February 19, 2008, 10:10:04 PM
ryan, all of us know that the toughest game is the first one.  cnu85, i will be in touch with u to hook up for tailgating.  wesley is having trouble finding teams to play, give your guys credit, they are willing to play a tough squad, unlike some of the teams in the north who seem to have run from the chance to play wesley.  see you on the weekend of the 6th.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 19, 2008, 10:37:29 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on February 19, 2008, 10:10:04 PM
ryan, all of us know that the toughest game is the first one. 

Well, it all depends on how you look at it. Sure, Wesley will be the toughest terms of skill, the toughest in terms of pressure, the toughest in terms of rankings, but then you've got Ferrum, which will be the toughest in terms of....um....erm...um....hmmmmm  ;)

Probably not.  :)

Yeah, Wesley/CNU will be a good game. I already got the wife's OK to go to it -- so I'll be crashing your tailgate, too, 85!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 20, 2008, 08:59:05 AM
All Right then!!!! Party plans have started!!

I'm also discussing some things with people. Maybe the first tailgate of the year will also be the first remote radio pre-game sideline reporting. I might need a co-host for the tailgate party so I can do some radio stuff. We'll see what happens. Everything is preliminary right now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on February 21, 2008, 01:35:19 PM
QUOTE>>>NC Wesleyan exposed W&J. Playing Bethany and Waynesburg is a lot different than going head up in a conference with Mount, Cap, Northern and others.

Sirianni was 30 or 31 (35 at the start of this season with 4 years in as the HC there), he also coached at Wilkes and Ithaca for a year each, and W&J was already an established program in that conference.

W&J is now under Sirianni what they pretty much always have been post the two title game appearances in the early 90s...rack up a great record against questionable competition, maybe get a playoff win if they draw Christopher Newport, then bow out to someone legit. Thus far, he hasn't changed that, and in fact they just went ahead and lost to the 8th seed USA South team this year in the first round. I've seen first hand how mediocre South Region football is and to me that's an unthinkable loss if you're a real #1 seed, which of course W&J never is. UNQUOTE>>>

Wow, there's a kick in the head for the South Region. I hope the right folks can read the quote above and figure out how to improve the level of play in the South Region
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BTEXPRESS on February 21, 2008, 02:25:05 PM
Where did that quote come from?????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 21, 2008, 05:40:42 PM
It's a quote from a poster on the OAC board. The context of his argument was pointing to how much harder it is to succeed in a coaching job at Marietta (an OAC team) than it is in an easier conference, like the one W&J is in.

My perspective is that the South Region sent a rep to the big game in three of the five years prior to this unprescedented and amazing stretch of UWW/MUC Stagg Bowls. That's a pretty good record, in an era that still saw Mount as a dominant force and St. John's as a key contender.

The South should be proud of its conferences, teams and the way they perform in out-of-region games. Sometimes top-to-bottom shakeups can occur. Shocker, I know. I like that the South is more evenly balanced than other places such as the North Region are.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 21, 2008, 09:09:40 PM
Hey Tipps,

Go tell that OAC guy:

Up your nose with a rubber hose!!

it's the best i can do...i'll blame it on my dinner...more rice krispy treats   :D
Title: Curious
Post by: Eh-You on February 23, 2008, 07:36:13 PM
Just heard that an Averett assistant was leaving to be an assistant at Methodist. Was curious if anyone has examples of losing a coach to another staff in conference. Also wonder how big of an advantage you think that gives Methodist over Averett.
Title: Re: Curious
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 23, 2008, 09:00:59 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on February 23, 2008, 07:36:13 PM
Just heard that an Averett assistant was leaving to be an assistant at Methodist. Was curious if anyone has examples of losing a coach to another staff in conference. Also wonder how big of an advantage you think that gives Methodist over Averett.
It happens in the ASC occasionally.  Younger coaches get a chance for more responsibility.

Frequently there may be other family opportunities.
Title: Re: Curious
Post by: kickerdad on February 25, 2008, 11:46:34 AM
Quote from: Eh-You on February 23, 2008, 07:36:13 PM
Just heard that an Averett assistant was leaving to be an assistant at Methodist. Was curious if anyone has examples of losing a coach to another staff in conference. Also wonder how big of an advantage you think that gives Methodist over Averett.

Heard the same rumor a couple of weeks ago. Apparently this coach played for Dunlevy and has been coaching with him since 2002. Not sure why the seperation. There were no signs of discontent (that anyone knew about). I am sure he could give away lots of information on Averett's schemes. But hey, most of the teams know what you run from looking at all the film. Unless you put in something new the week before game time, the opponents already know you like the back of their hand. The one disadvantage is he knows the personal and thier weakness as well as strenghts.
P.S. Averett didn't have any strenghts last year, so we will all see first hand what they have this year. ;) :D
Title: Re: Curious
Post by: kickerdad on February 27, 2008, 01:13:07 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on February 23, 2008, 07:36:13 PM
Just heard that an Averett assistant was leaving to be an assistant at Methodist. Was curious if anyone has examples of losing a coach to another staff in conference. Also wonder how big of an advantage you think that gives Methodist over Averett.

Any of the Methodist faithful hearing these rumors or know anything about this.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 28, 2008, 03:03:26 PM
When is kickoff?
Title: Re: New D3 Dad
Post by: kickerdad on February 29, 2008, 01:04:13 PM
Quote from: PrideDad on February 29, 2008, 12:35:06 PM
My son graduates this year and will be playing football for Coach Mitchell and  the Greensboro Pride. It's great to have a forum like this. Any other "new dads" out there?

PrideDad,

Welcome and congrats to your son on playing for Greensboro. You your family and your son will experience the thrill of a life time in the DIII arena. I am not new, but still remember the excitment I experienced when my son learned he would be playing at Averett. It has only gotten better.

These boards are great and you will meet some great folks who post on here. Not only from the USA South Region but from all the conferences. I like every other father dreamed of my son playing big time college football but realized that the big schools would not be for my son. He would get lost and struggle with his studies. After we learned that all the DI schools in the state were full to the rim with kickers, the DII and DIII schools were knocking at the door and on the phone every night. He choose Averett because that was where he had the best chance to start his freshman year. The coach at Averett told him, his studies and diploma came first - football second. Those words are still true and I applaud the coaches there for making sure these guys are getting the grades and graduating. He also is a stickler for discipline. I like that. I am extremely satisfied with his studies (best grades since 5th grade - all A's & B's) and he has been blessed that he is able to say, he played NCAA College Football.

Welcome aboard and good luck to your son and his football career. My wife and I have traveled to Greensboro 4 times now (2 games with Guilford and 2 with Greensboro) and found the town to be beautiful as well and the campus' of both colleges. The people are friendly and I have met some wonderful folks and established some new friends for life. That whole surrounding area of Carolina is beautiful.

Good luck
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BTEXPRESS on February 29, 2008, 04:01:24 PM
KickerDad, Very well said. My son is also waiting to make his final college decision in a well weeks to play Football at the Division III level. We are waiting on the Financial Aid/ Merit Scholarship packages before deciding. I started to follow this site this summer and have enjoyed reading it almost every day. I am still amazed on how these Division III schools have invested so much $$$$ into upgrading stadiums, weightrooms, fitness centers etc. It is a great time to be a Division III Football player. I was also surprised at the whole recruiting process. My son knew he would never run out of the tunnel at Notre Dame but always had a dream of playing College Football. It was something I never had the opportunity to do. The Coaches at the Division III level really have a tough tome recruiting because it is not like they have Full athletic scholarships to offer. But they do a great job of calling, sending notes, e mails etc to make these kids feel important. He will have a tough time deciding which school to pick and an even tougher tome telling the other coaches he is not going to their school.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 03, 2008, 10:30:30 PM
PrideDad,

Watch out for Narch. He lives off of "Instant Classics"   :D :D
Title: Re: Curious
Post by: narch on March 04, 2008, 01:22:12 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on February 27, 2008, 01:13:07 PMAny of the Methodist faithful hearing these rumors or know anything about this.
i haven't heard anything for certain, but i did hear that the monarchs were possibly adding a coach...maybe he's the guy

if he is the guy, i doubt he was hired for his ability to give averett's secrets, though...anybody the monarchs hire will be a good coach who is also a good recruiter

PrideDad - welcome aboard and feel free to ignore any derogatory comments i might make about  the gc football team...i do hope your son has an outstanding career and enjoys the experience of going 0-4 against the monarchs :) - seriously, though, it sounds like he went through a pretty exhaustive search for the school that is the "right fit" and he's found a good school with a coach who seems to have his priorities in order...enjoy the experience!
Title: Re: Curious
Post by: CNU85 on March 04, 2008, 01:48:29 PM
Quote from: narch on March 04, 2008, 01:22:12 PM

PrideDad - welcome aboard and feel free to ignore any derogatory comments i might make about  the gc football team...i do hope your son has an outstanding career and enjoys the experience of going 0-4 against the monarchs :) - seriously, though, it sounds like he went through a pretty exhaustive search for the school that is the "right fit" and he's found a good school with a coach who seems to have his priorities in order...enjoy the experience!

Who stole our Narch? Was that a couple of sentences of nice things being said to a GC fan?

Wow!  :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on March 04, 2008, 05:54:18 PM
Narch hasn't been to the beach in a while and the salt water is washed out of his blood obviously making him less abrasive to the Pride....Come on down narch, we'll knock back some brews, get some brine in that blood and get you back to normal in no time  ;D
Title: Re: Curious
Post by: narch on March 06, 2008, 02:39:22 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 04, 2008, 01:48:29 PMWho stole our Narch? Was that a couple of sentences of nice things being said to a GC fan?

Wow!  :D :D
i thought i'd be nice for now...after all, his son hasn't officially enrolled at gc yet (meaning he could still change his mind and play for a team that not only has had a winning season, but should actually contend for a conference title...like mu :)) - once his son is officially a member of the pride team, i'll stop being nice to him :)

papi - i plan to make it down your way soon...i'll give you a heads up...i could clearly use a little salt air
Title: Re: Curious
Post by: narch on March 06, 2008, 07:40:10 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on February 27, 2008, 01:13:07 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on February 23, 2008, 07:36:13 PM
Just heard that an Averett assistant was leaving to be an assistant at Methodist. Was curious if anyone has examples of losing a coach to another staff in conference. Also wonder how big of an advantage you think that gives Methodist over Averett.

Any of the Methodist faithful hearing these rumors or know anything about this.
it's official (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/mccombs0306.htm)...i like his resume and he looks good in green & gold!
Title: Re: Curious
Post by: CNU85 on March 07, 2008, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: narch on March 06, 2008, 07:40:10 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on February 27, 2008, 01:13:07 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on February 23, 2008, 07:36:13 PM
Just heard that an Averett assistant was leaving to be an assistant at Methodist. Was curious if anyone has examples of losing a coach to another staff in conference. Also wonder how big of an advantage you think that gives Methodist over Averett.

Any of the Methodist faithful hearing these rumors or know anything about this.
it's official (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/mccombs0306.htm)...i like his resume and he looks good in green & gold!

nice spin to the story....curious though, how many sacks did his line allow in 2007?  ;)
Title: Re: Curious
Post by: kickerdad on March 07, 2008, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 07, 2008, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: narch on March 06, 2008, 07:40:10 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on February 27, 2008, 01:13:07 PM
Quote from: Eh-You on February 23, 2008, 07:36:13 PM
Just heard that an Averett assistant was leaving to be an assistant at Methodist. Was curious if anyone has examples of losing a coach to another staff in conference. Also wonder how big of an advantage you think that gives Methodist over Averett.

Any of the Methodist faithful hearing these rumors or know anything about this.
it's official (http://www.methodist.edu/monarchs/football/mccombs0306.htm)...i like his resume and he looks good in green & gold!

nice spin to the story....curious though, how many sacks did his line allow in 2007?  ;)

TOO MANY.......But in his defense, he only had 2 players on the OL with playing time experience and they stayed hurt most of the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 08, 2008, 06:45:47 PM
i don't see him coaching the o-line any time soon - the monarchs already have one of the best o-line coaches in the region (if not country) on the sidelines in carl funderburk
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Spence on March 08, 2008, 10:11:57 PM
Quote from: used2b on February 14, 2008, 11:00:22 AM
pretty hard to beleive Ginn would leave for position coaching duties at a D2. Must be money, problems at NCWC or most probably the cubbard is bare.

Not hard to believe at all, considering where he's going. GVSU is the by god best athletic program in small-college sports (I don't think there's anything they're not good at), and he's got an assoc. HC title.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC on March 09, 2008, 11:11:24 PM
Quote from: Spence on March 08, 2008, 10:11:57 PM
Quote from: used2b on February 14, 2008, 11:00:22 AM
pretty hard to beleive Ginn would leave for position coaching duties at a D2. Must be money, problems at NCWC or most probably the cubbard is bare.

Not hard to believe at all, considering where he's going. GVSU is the by god best athletic program in small-college sports (I don't think there's anything they're not good at), and he's got an assoc. HC title.




He may have received word that his biggest sponsor, Dr. Ian Newbould, was leaving to become president of another college across seas.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on March 20, 2008, 03:16:12 PM
Thank God, Spring Training will start up here in a week or so. Maybe there will be some talk on this board. It is as dry as the lakes in Ga. Somebody could at least start something......gossip, lies, anything to get a conversation going.

I know Averett is losing a coach to Methodist. Are there any other coaching changes or major developments going  on at your favorite school? I see on the ODAC that W&L is getting a new Offensive Cord.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 03, 2008, 09:52:45 PM
the monarchs got a win today!  they officially finished 2007 5-5 when ehc forfeited all of their wins for using an ineligible player

story (http://www.d3football.com/notables.php)

kudos to ehc for doing the right thing and forfeiting games...it still strikes me as odd that guilford didn't do the right thing a few years ago
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC on April 17, 2008, 11:28:17 PM
Supposively, the number one ranked high school QB, Pryor, took a great deal of time in his consideration to NCWC.  The dealbreaker was when the Buckeyes gave him a car and set up a retirement fund.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 19, 2008, 03:21:30 PM
It's after basketball and before football, so I'm bored.  One word: cupboard.

narch, the Quakers have you for a 7 pm start in September - are you going to make the trip?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 21, 2008, 03:42:02 PM
This may be old stuff for some, but I am just trying to get some talk going during the dry season here.

You have the following rivalries between USC & UCLA, Alabama & Auburn, Michigan & Michigan State, Ohio State & Michigan, Florida & Florida State, Virginia & Virginia Tech.....so who are the rivalries in the USA South? Is it Ferrum & CNU, CNU & Methodist, Averett & Ferrum or Averett & Maryville? Sound off, who do you thing the big rivalries are. Or are the with out of conference teams like Greensboro & Guildford? This is only my 3rd season so I am not sure whose number one foe Averett is. It could be Maryville, Ferrum or CNU. Don't have a clue, looking for some other Averett followers to chime in on this one.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 21, 2008, 07:30:52 PM
I think rivalries are still being formed. Remember, most teams in the USA South are less than 10 years old. I know CNU considered SU their main rivalry b/c in the beginning we had a hard time beating them...especially in their home. But with the rise of NCW.....but now their coach is gone....AU makes somse sense, too.....Ferrum has a rich tradition....

still forming...I think
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU Dad on April 22, 2008, 10:38:18 AM
Having two sons play at CNU (one graduated the other will be a Jr) I think CNU's biggest rival is Ferrum. My older son once said SU, because they won at Pomoco, but it seemed every year that last game of the season against Ferrum had conference championship ramifications. Now with my younger son NCW has won the last two meetings, so I know he wants that win this year. But with the NCW coach leaving, and the way the Ferrum game got ugly at the end, I would still have to Vote Ferrum.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 22, 2008, 12:25:29 PM
Quote from: CNU Dad on April 22, 2008, 10:38:18 AM
Having two sons play at CNU (one graduated the other will be a Jr) I think CNU's biggest rival is Ferrum. My older son once said SU, because they won at Pomoco, but it seemed every year that last game of the season against Ferrum had conference championship ramifications. Now with my younger son NCW has won the last two meetings, so I know he wants that win this year. But with the NCW coach leaving, and the way the Ferrum game got ugly at the end, I would still have to Vote Ferrum.

CNU Dad,

Are you local and if so where did you son's play high school ball. We are from Suffolk and I had one son play an Nansemond River and the other at Lakeland.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 22, 2008, 05:34:45 PM
See my post on the ODAC site, but I think it's Guilford for Greensboro.  MU and Guilford have a nice thing going, too.  They've played every year since the Monarchs started football, but Guilford's won more often - maybe 2/3 of the time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on April 22, 2008, 05:54:18 PM
I agree that Greensboro and Guilford see themselves as each other's top rival. It's a good one, yielding a game that's usually pretty close.

Another inter-conference rivalry seems to be Ferrum and Emory & Henry. Speaking with the sports folks at those two schools, I've heard a lot of love -- and a fair amount of history -- about that matchup.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 23, 2008, 11:25:43 AM
Last night I pulled out last years media guide program from the Averett vs Maryville game and was impressed with Maryville's history dating way back. Over the years they have played some major teams across the country. I am assuming that Maryville at one time was bigger than DIII.

Are there any Maryville folks out there that can add some enlightment to this?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on April 23, 2008, 08:27:35 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 23, 2008, 11:25:43 AM
Last night I pulled out last years media guide program from the Averett vs Maryville game and was impressed with Maryville's history dating way back. Over the years they have played some major teams across the country. I am assuming that Maryville at one time was bigger than DIII.

Are there any Maryville folks out there that can add some enlightment to this?


How far back were you looking? Most schools that have a long history of football have played the modern-day big dogs.

Sorry, the USAC is relatively new, so I'm going to go outside the conference with my examples. But Hampden-Sydney used to line up against U.Va., a matchup that lasted into the 1940s. Washington & Lee has played Virginia Tech 25-30 times over their lifetimes. Muhlenburg used to play Penn State until the mid-1900s -- though that was prolly pre-Paterno days, if there is such a thing.  ;)

I don't have Maryville's media guide to use as comparison to see exactly what you're looking at, but this might help give you some perspective on where other programs have come from.  Prior to the formation of Division III, I don't think it was usually that a D3 school was that much bigger but rather that the current D1 schools were somewhat smaller -- at least in terms of their athletic programs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 23, 2008, 09:16:47 PM
i'd say gc/mu is a solid rivalry, but the pride have only beaten the monarchs twice, so it's kinda one-sided

cnu is the game everyone in the conference circles, but more often than not, they lose...so that's not really a rivalry for anyone

i wonder if mu/au will take on any new meaning with coach mccombs at mu?

the m'ville/mu games of late have been pretty hotly contested and that series stands at m'ville 6, mu 5

i'll be interested to see what plays out with the mu/campbell series that will begin next year - both teams have already been bumping heads for recruits and MANY students choose between mu and campbell...it has the makings of a classic rivalry...i'm hoping it will be pretty one-sided, though - it's amazing to me to read all the kids in the area who have committed to campbell talking about the lure of playing d1 football - i just want to smack them upside the head and say "campbell is d1aa non-scholarship...it's the same as d3, dummy, except they will NEVER compete for a national championship" - but i haven't really met any of them in person, and i'd probably refrain from smacking them in the head if i did...probably

and 'nova, the official count is gcq 13, mu 6 (ouch!)...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 24, 2008, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on April 23, 2008, 08:27:35 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 23, 2008, 11:25:43 AM
Last night I pulled out last years media guide program from the Averett vs Maryville game and was impressed with Maryville's history dating way back. Over the years they have played some major teams across the country. I am assuming that Maryville at one time was bigger than DIII.

Are there any Maryville folks out there that can add some enlightment to this?


How far back were you looking? Most schools that have a long history of football have played the modern-day big dogs.

Sorry, the USAC is relatively new, so I'm going to go outside the conference with my examples. But Hampden-Sydney used to line up against U.Va., a matchup that lasted into the 1940s. Washington & Lee has played Virginia Tech 25-30 times over their lifetimes. Muhlenburg used to play Penn State until the mid-1900s -- though that was prolly pre-Paterno days, if there is such a thing.  ;)

I don't have Maryville's media guide to use as comparison to see exactly what you're looking at, but this might help give you some perspective on where other programs have come from.  Prior to the formation of Division III, I don't think it was usually that a D3 school was that much bigger but rather that the current D1 schools were somewhat smaller -- at least in terms of their athletic programs.

Ryan,

I don't have the program in front of me at the moment. But I am pretty sure it went back 30 or 40 years maybe even more. It showed Maryville had played Alabama several times, Georgia Tech and other modern day D1 schools of today. I am not as up to date on DIII history as most of the posters on these boards and I would guess that maybe at one time there was no DIII or DII or DI and everyone was considered equal. (even Mudville). I know the USA South is fairly new however I had heard that it was once called the Dixie Conference. Now how old that was and who played in that conference I don't know.

Maybe I have opened a box bigger than I can handle but I like history and football and when you put the two together you can have some interesting conversation. (no arguments, just good conversation) For example I found out last year when Averett went up against W&L that the Generals were once in DI and because of some issues, they shut the football program down for a few years and when they came back, they dropped to DIII. Now keep in mind this was second hand information where I got this. But I found it interesting that W&L stopped playing for a few years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: willierobin on April 24, 2008, 02:43:07 PM
Catholic has an interesting history...according to their media guide they were d1 until they dropped football in 1951...won the Orange Bowl over Mississippi in 1935 and tied Arizona State in the 1939 Sun Bowl...CUA is 3-1 all-time vs Miami, 2-1 vs South Carolina, 2-0 vs Wake Forest and dominated NC State (6-0)...the Cardinals did not fare as well against Maryland (1-8-2) or Boston College (0-7) and lost the only matchup with both West Virginia and Va Tech...they started football back up at the club level in 1965 and became a d3 program in 1977...they were in the ODAC for 1 year (1983) but went independent (in football) until rejoining the ODAC (football only) in 1999 (won their only championship).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 24, 2008, 03:33:25 PM
Quote from: willierobin on April 24, 2008, 02:43:07 PM
Catholic has an interesting history...according to their media guide they were d1 until they dropped football in 1951...won the Orange Bowl over Mississippi in 1935 and tied Arizona State in the 1939 Sun Bowl...CUA is 3-1 all-time vs Miami, 2-1 vs South Carolina, 2-0 vs Wake Forest and dominated NC State (6-0)...the Cardinals did not fare as well against Maryland (1-8-2) or Boston College (0-7) and lost the only matchup with both West Virginia and Va Tech...they started football back up at the club level in 1965 and became a d3 program in 1977...they were in the ODAC for 1 year (1983) but went independent (in football) until rejoining the ODAC (football only) in 1999 (won their only championship).

Willierobin,

The only ODAC schools that I am familiar with is Guilford, Emory Henry, Bridgewater, Hampton Sydney and W & L. How has Catholic faired lately. You have something there to hang you hat on with that history. Especially the Orange Bowl and Sun Bowl games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on April 24, 2008, 06:07:46 PM
kickerdad,
I, and I'm sure everyone else on here, appreciates a healthy interest in history. It's one of my favorite parts of analyzing football. But you brought up something I took for granted that you knew: There certainly was not always a Division III. College athletics split into divisions in the late '60s or early '70s (I don't remember off the top of my head). Prior to that, there was a lot more competition between teams that are currently big schools and ones that are currently small schools.

The matchups I mentioned in my previous post also point in part as to why the split in divisions took place. Sure, Hampden-Sydney was playing UVa for a good long while, but the games there toward the end of the series started being separated by 30, 40, 50 points. They became blowouts. Same with the other teams I menioned. The disparity was growing around that time, and the creation of athletic tiers was inevitable.

As a side note back in 1905, my alma mater beat Notre Dame at the Irish's home stadium, the last time the Irish lost there for about 20 years. A proud claim for Wabash fans. What's not always mentioned, though, is that Wabash and Notre Dame have played each other 10 times......ND won 9 of those games  :o

(I can't shake the feeling that sometime soon, this board is going to be getting a crash course in football history courtesy of the wisdom of Ralph :) )
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 24, 2008, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: narch on April 23, 2008, 09:16:47 PM
and 'nova, the official count is gcq 13, mu 6 (ouch!)...
Thanks, narch.  I knew I was in the ballpark with my 2/3 guess, so 13/19 is just a shade better.  lol  I also knew the Quakers and Monarchs have played every season since MU started football, so that means 1989.  So, are you coming to Greensboro in September for the night game?  My "tan" sure took on a reddish glow with a 1 pm start at your place last September!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 24, 2008, 10:20:13 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on April 24, 2008, 06:07:46 PM
Prior to that, there was a lot more competition between teams that are currently big schools and ones that are currently small schools.
Thanks, Ryan.  This is a point I was going to make a day or so ago and just got too busy to post.  I have the full football history of my alma mater, Guilford, somewhere and it's peppered with games you'd never see now:  all the NC Big Four (UNC, Duke, NCSU and Wake, for the uninitiated), ECU, Appalachian, South Carolina, Maryland, Clemson, etc.  Granted, they didn't win many, but they have beaten some of these schools.  Many schools that are now so-called mid-majors also used to be powers in others associations, such as the NAIA (Elon, for example, was in the Carolinas Conference with Guilford for many, many years).  To say the landscape of intercollegiate athletics has changed in the past 30, 40 and 50 years would be an understatement!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 25, 2008, 09:12:54 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on April 24, 2008, 06:07:46 PM
...
(I can't shake the feeling that sometime soon, this board is going to be getting a crash course in football history courtesy of the wisdom of Ralph :) )
Good morning.

In the modern era, the Dixie IAC began sponsoring football in 2001, and was awarded a Pool A bid in its first season. 

How about this  blast (http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/midatlantic/1999/ACFC+alignment+might+be+short-lived) from the past...

He has a neat haircut, doesn't he.   ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: willierobin on April 25, 2008, 12:44:26 PM
kickerdad - Catholic was a power in the late 1990's (three straight playoff appearances in '97,'98 and '99) but has struggled the past 7 years (5-5 last year was the only non-losing season). They do seem close to becoming ODAC contenders with their most experienced team in years and some coaching continuity (new head coaches in 2001, 2002, 2004 and 2006) as the current staff enters their 3rd year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 27, 2008, 05:59:13 PM
kickerdad,

also check out the official usa south website. there is some history there...when the dixie started...charter members, etc.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU Dad on April 28, 2008, 10:09:30 AM
Kickerdad, yes we are local (Va Bch) my boys went to Kellam High School.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 29, 2008, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: CNU Dad on April 28, 2008, 10:09:30 AM
Kickerdad, yes we are local (Va Bch) my boys went to Kellam High School.

Good school. I wish you son the best at CNU. Maybe we can meet and talk this year when Averett visits CNU.

What position does your son play?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on April 29, 2008, 06:53:54 PM
Quote from: narch on April 23, 2008, 09:16:47 PM
i'd say gc/mu is a solid rivalry, but the pride have only beaten the monarchs twice, so it's kinda one-sided

cnu is the game everyone in the conference circles, but more often than not, they lose...so that's not really a rivalry for anyone

i wonder if mu/au will take on any new meaning with coach mccombs at mu?

the m'ville/mu games of late have been pretty hotly contested and that series stands at m'ville 6, mu 5



Being only a 3 year member of the USA-South, Maryville's fans are also wondering who are our new rivals.  Pre USA-South, MC's big games were against Sewanee, Centre and Rhodes.

MC has played tough, hard hitting games against Methodist during the last 3 years.  However, the players feel that their biggest rival, from MC's view, is Averett.  Games are very physical and they seem to match up well.  They recruit many of the same players from Florida and there is enough talk between both programs to get the players fired up.  I know Coach I has alot of respect for their coaching staff.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 30, 2008, 10:11:44 PM
ralph - wasn't the dixie one of the first d3 conferences in the country?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2008, 10:27:43 PM
Would have to depend on the definition of "d3 conference" since many conferences predate the formation of Division III.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on May 01, 2008, 12:28:08 PM
Just wanted to wish Rob Rod the best. He is in mini-camp with the Chiefs right now after a standout career at CNU. Here is a link for the article on CNU's webpage if anybody is interested:

http://www.cnusports.com/News/football/2008/4/30/fb050108.asp

And the link from the Daily Press:

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_cnuplayer_0501may01,0,3029709.story

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 01, 2008, 01:01:59 PM
Thanks -- I'd just read this at my day job (http://www.verizon.net/newsroom/portals/newsroom.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=newsroom_portal_page_nfl_article&_article=960463) and was coming here to see if anyone knew. Always surprised when I hear about D-III stuff at work first and not from a school or the board.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on May 03, 2008, 09:53:57 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 30, 2008, 10:27:43 PM
Would have to depend on the definition of "d3 conference" since many conferences predate the formation of Division III.
sorry...wasn't the dixie one of the first pure d3 conferences?

congrats to robrod...that chiefs defense could use some help, but i suspect if he makes the team, special teams will be his meal ticket
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 04, 2008, 12:16:40 AM
Pure? Huh?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on May 05, 2008, 08:33:29 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 04, 2008, 12:16:40 AM
Pure? Huh?
a conference which was never a scholarship conference or affiliated with another division, but it doesn't really matter...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on May 05, 2008, 10:02:59 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 24, 2008, 03:33:25 PM
Quote from: willierobin on April 24, 2008, 02:43:07 PM
Catholic has an interesting history...according to their media guide they were d1 until they dropped football in 1951...won the Orange Bowl over Mississippi in 1935 and tied Arizona State in the 1939 Sun Bowl...CUA is 3-1 all-time vs Miami, 2-1 vs South Carolina, 2-0 vs Wake Forest and dominated NC State (6-0)...the Cardinals did not fare as well against Maryland (1-8-2) or Boston College (0-7) and lost the only matchup with both West Virginia and Va Tech...they started football back up at the club level in 1965 and became a d3 program in 1977...they were in the ODAC for 1 year (1983) but went independent (in football) until rejoining the ODAC (football only) in 1999 (won their only championship).

Willierobin,

The only ODAC schools that I am familiar with is Guilford, Emory Henry, Bridgewater, Hampton Sydney and W & L. How has Catholic faired lately. You have something there to hang you hat on with that history. Especially the Orange Bowl and Sun Bowl games.

H-A-M-P-D-E-N.......sorry kicker....pet peeve of mine!!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on May 05, 2008, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on May 05, 2008, 10:02:59 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 24, 2008, 03:33:25 PM
Quote from: willierobin on April 24, 2008, 02:43:07 PM
Catholic has an interesting history...according to their media guide they were d1 until they dropped football in 1951...won the Orange Bowl over Mississippi in 1935 and tied Arizona State in the 1939 Sun Bowl...CUA is 3-1 all-time vs Miami, 2-1 vs South Carolina, 2-0 vs Wake Forest and dominated NC State (6-0)...the Cardinals did not fare as well against Maryland (1-8-2) or Boston College (0-7) and lost the only matchup with both West Virginia and Va Tech...they started football back up at the club level in 1965 and became a d3 program in 1977...they were in the ODAC for 1 year (1983) but went independent (in football) until rejoining the ODAC (football only) in 1999 (won their only championship).

Willierobin,

The only ODAC schools that I am familiar with is Guilford, Emory Henry, Bridgewater, Hampton Sydney and W & L. How has Catholic faired lately. You have something there to hang you hat on with that history. Especially the Orange Bowl and Sun Bowl games.

H-A-M-P-D-E-N.......sorry kicker....pet peeve of mine!!  ;)

That is OK......I need all the help I can get.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on May 06, 2008, 08:14:35 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on May 05, 2008, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: allsky7 on May 05, 2008, 10:02:59 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 24, 2008, 03:33:25 PM
Quote from: willierobin on April 24, 2008, 02:43:07 PM
Catholic has an interesting history...according to their media guide they were d1 until they dropped football in 1951...won the Orange Bowl over Mississippi in 1935 and tied Arizona State in the 1939 Sun Bowl...CUA is 3-1 all-time vs Miami, 2-1 vs South Carolina, 2-0 vs Wake Forest and dominated NC State (6-0)...the Cardinals did not fare as well against Maryland (1-8-2) or Boston College (0-7) and lost the only matchup with both West Virginia and Va Tech...they started football back up at the club level in 1965 and became a d3 program in 1977...they were in the ODAC for 1 year (1983) but went independent (in football) until rejoining the ODAC (football only) in 1999 (won their only championship).

Willierobin,

The only ODAC schools that I am familiar with is Guilford, Emory Henry, Bridgewater, Hampton Sydney and W & L. How has Catholic faired lately. You have something there to hang you hat on with that history. Especially the Orange Bowl and Sun Bowl games.

H-A-M-P-D-E-N.......sorry kicker....pet peeve of mine!!  ;)

That is OK......I need all the help I can get.

+1 for being a good sport.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on May 11, 2008, 10:15:43 AM
Happy Mother's Day to all!!!

Also, May all of the student- athletes at your favorite institutions perform well on their finals and overall grades for this year. Getting a great education while being able to play ball is the absolute greatest thing about the D3 life. Heres to a safe and productive summer off- season training.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Knightstalker on May 14, 2008, 11:08:36 AM
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In Flander's Field
by John McCrae
In Flanders Fields the poppies blow,
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky,
The larks, still bravely singing, fly,
Scarce heard amid the guns below.
We are the dead.
Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved and now we lie,
In Flanders Fields.
Take up our quarrel with the foe
To you, from failing hands, we throw,
The torch, be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us, who die,
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow,
In Flanders Fields.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC on May 17, 2008, 08:23:19 AM
Narch, since the end of the regular season (baseball), I though I wouldn't have to hear, see, or read anything related to Methodist for about 5 months.  BUT, I open the front page of the paper and see certain players from my area (FL) making decisions to play for your football team.  Bergstol, a three year starter from Centennial High School, should have a pretty good future as a QB.  Whoever the connection down here may be I would capatalize on it.  A majority of the kids who play football or baseball down here don't really know about D3.  You could probably pull a championship caliber team from the freshman class for 08-09 from the d1 colleges down here.  These kids grow up thinking U of F, FSU, Miami, USF, UCF and the sad thing is alot of the talent gets wasted.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on May 19, 2008, 05:19:15 AM
Quote from: NCWC on May 17, 2008, 08:23:19 AM
Narch, since the end of the regular season (baseball), I though I wouldn't have to hear, see, or read anything related to Methodist for about 5 months.  BUT, I open the front page of the paper and see certain players from my area (FL) making decisions to play for your football team.  Bergstol, a three year starter from Centennial High School, should have a pretty good future as a QB.  Whoever the connection down here may be I would capatalize on it.  A majority of the kids who play football or baseball down here don't really know about D3.  You could probably pull a championship caliber team from the freshman class for 08-09 from the d1 colleges down here.  These kids grow up thinking U of F, FSU, Miami, USF, UCF and the sad thing is alot of the talent gets wasted.

     Not sure how it is these days but back in the day, we (Fighting Scots) had more players from FLA than any other state. (After TN of course)  I don't recall the exact numbers but I would say it was at least 25%. With FLA not being a border state of TN, I would say that 25% is a lot. A ton of talent in FLA for sure. 8)
     Speaking of FLA, one of my most cherished memories is the 1985 Sugar Bowl in which the Tennessee Vols put an old fashioned 35 to 7 butt whooping on a Vinny & Co. Miami team that had as much swagger as my South Florida Fighting Scot teammates. When they came back to campus from Christmas Break, I had never seen such a quiet and humbled bunch. It warms my heart to this very day!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on May 20, 2008, 11:13:47 AM
The 2007 media guide listed 29 players from Florida on the Fighting Scots roster (out of 104 players).  As a young MC grad, there has been a big effort by the coaching staff to recruit Florida players during the past 5 seasons.  They are probably a big reason for the improvement of the football program...

I'm not seeing much talk about the upcoming season.  MC comes back with alot of players,  CNU will be tough as always and Ferrum could be scary with their offense...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on May 20, 2008, 09:44:27 PM
Quote from: NCWC on May 17, 2008, 08:23:19 AM
Bergstol, a three year starter from Centennial High School, should have a pretty good future as a QB. 
thanks for the heads up...i'll see if i can get any scoop on him...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on May 21, 2008, 09:12:40 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on May 20, 2008, 11:13:47 AM
The 2007 media guide listed 29 players from Florida on the Fighting Scots roster (out of 104 players).  As a young MC grad, there has been a big effort by the coaching staff to recruit Florida players during the past 5 seasons.  They are probably a big reason for the improvement of the football program...

I'm not seeing much talk about the upcoming season.  MC comes back with alot of players,  CNU will be tough as always and Ferrum could be scary with their offense...

Seems to be lots of talent in Florida. Averett currently has 24 on the roster that hail from Florida. I know there were more during the season but they have already removed the seniors from the roster. Plus they were recruiting heavily in Florida and that will mean additional guys from the Sunshine State coming in.

It amazes me that with all that talent, Florida doesn't have any DIII colleges.

P.S. No Comment on Averett's upcoming season. I ran my mouth last year thinking there we were going to be over 500 and look where that went. Huge surprise to everyone, but when you lose 26 seniors it creates a huge wake wash. Averett has Bridgewater College on the schedule for the first game this year. They aren't Mount Union (thank God) but Bridgewater is always ranked way up there. Averett will know real quick what the season has in store after the first game. However they jump out of the fire into the pan the second game with Guildford and then take on W&L. All this before conference play - the picture will be clear. People will disagree but I believe playing Mt. Union had a huge impact on the way the coaches and players began preparing for this year. It began at 6:00 am the day after the last game of the season with Maryville.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCWC on May 25, 2008, 11:42:23 PM
Schools from all over the country come here to recruit.  It would be hard to keep a kid home to play d3 if he could go to some northern or midwest schools and play d1.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on May 26, 2008, 11:48:13 AM
To all those that have served our country and also have known those that gave the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom I just want to wish a great Memorial day. God bless all of you and most of all, thank you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on May 26, 2008, 01:10:03 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on May 26, 2008, 11:48:13 AM
To all those that have served our country and also have known those that gave the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom I just want to wish a great Memorial day. God bless all of you and most of all, thank you.
ditto...

Quote from: NCWC on May 25, 2008, 11:42:23 PM
Schools from all over the country come here to recruit.  It would be hard to keep a kid home to play d3 if he could go to some northern or midwest schools and play d1.
imagine, though, if all of the top d3 florida talent stayed in state...that would be a playoff caliber roster, for sure...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on May 26, 2008, 03:38:10 PM
Thank You to all of those active and inactive military personnel. Without your service, we would not be able to enjoy the freedom that we have.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on May 27, 2008, 11:25:25 AM
When will we start to see things like Coaches Polls/Predictions, D3 predictions, etc. come out?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 29, 2008, 09:36:25 AM
We see the first season previews within the next week, the first conference coaches polls in July and Kickoff 2008 in August! (Probably Aug. 26 for the Sept. 6 openers.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on May 29, 2008, 09:15:22 PM
I thought some of you might like to see the pictures that SU has put on its web site showing the field turf being installed at Shentel Stadium (and soon to be) at Sprint field. It should all be done in July. I cant wait for the new season to start!  http://www.su.edu/athletics/shentelstadium2008/index.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 30, 2008, 05:11:08 PM
Looking good Uncle J. I bet you are excited. New stuff is always fun!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on June 02, 2008, 12:35:27 PM
Methodist has another good young QB coming from my former school, South View. I pushed and pushed for him to go to MU, and I finally got my wish. Don't be surprised if he starts early and ends up with every Methodist passing record. Just remember who told you first.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on June 02, 2008, 10:47:42 PM
What happened to Parks???  Did he leave MU?  He played a heck of a game against us last season....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 03, 2008, 07:44:48 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on June 02, 2008, 10:47:42 PM
What happened to Parks???  Did he leave MU?  He played a heck of a game against us last season....

I agree, Parks was/is a good QB. I thought he was Methodist's future for the next several years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 03, 2008, 08:57:00 PM
Quote from: rocket on June 02, 2008, 12:35:27 PM
Methodist has another good young QB coming from my former school, South View. I pushed and pushed for him to go to MU, and I finally got my wish. Don't be surprised if he starts early and ends up with every Methodist passing record. Just remember who told you first.

This raises a question I've had for years. What are the rules on recruiting by Alum at the D3 level?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on June 10, 2008, 01:12:05 PM
Parks left school this past semester and transferred to Florida. I'm not sure if he is going to try and walk on or if he is just going to be a regular student. That was a pretty big hit for MU. They expected great things from him.
I was a coach at South View this past year when they recruited our QB. He obvioulsy had a lot of questions for me, and I gave him a lot of answers. I wouldn't say I recruited him, but I let him know where I stood on the subject!!
The kid is going to be good too. He tied my school record for completions on 50 fewer attempts and 20 less games played. One more game and he would hold all of my school records. He is pretty impressive, and I was shocked that he didn't get offers from somewhere else.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 10, 2008, 03:53:36 PM
Good info Rocket. I'm always hesitant when I run into someone who is considering playing for CNU (usually their parents). I remember asking the CNU coach once about speaking to someone and he was adamant that I not talk to anyone from a recruiting standpoint b/c of NCAA rules. I recently met someone whose kid is heading to Widener to play OL. I had to refrain from giving a CNU speach.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on June 10, 2008, 11:42:46 PM
Hey 85,
This might be a thing for you to answer. While I loved CNU's matchups with Rowan, I always loathed how the out-of-region game counted for CNU come playoff time. Now, one of the additions to the sked for '08 is ANOTHER out of region team (Wilkes). Why is this?

I can appreciate the intent to keep the level of competition strong, but it seems to be trading one negative for another. Did the Caps have trouble filling out 10 games? Was this by design? Any insight here?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on June 15, 2008, 04:58:39 PM
I just wanted to wish a Happy Father's Day to all.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 16, 2008, 11:09:31 AM
just checking in from wonderful downtown Fallajua, Al Anbar region. Time shares anyone?

As far as Father's day goes free suicide belts are being giving out out at 4th and Achmed
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 18, 2008, 01:47:26 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on June 10, 2008, 11:42:46 PM
Hey 85,
This might be a thing for you to answer. While I loved CNU's matchups with Rowan, I always loathed how the out-of-region game counted for CNU come playoff time. Now, one of the additions to the sked for '08 is ANOTHER out of region team (Wilkes). Why is this?

I can appreciate the intent to keep the level of competition strong, but it seems to be trading one negative for another. Did the Caps have trouble filling out 10 games? Was this by design? Any insight here?

Ryan,

Heck if I know. That would involve a thought process too deep to contemplate in my spare time. A good question, though. I'll ask around. Kelchner is a Susquehana (sp?) grad.....does he just like that area?....Salisbury, Wilkes, Rowan, Wesley.......Oh heck Ryan...now I'm actually giving it some thought...dang...right before a week on the beach, too!   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on June 18, 2008, 06:00:19 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 18, 2008, 01:47:26 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on June 10, 2008, 11:42:46 PM
Hey 85,
This might be a thing for you to answer. While I loved CNU's matchups with Rowan, I always loathed how the out-of-region game counted for CNU come playoff time. Now, one of the additions to the sked for '08 is ANOTHER out of region team (Wilkes). Why is this?

I can appreciate the intent to keep the level of competition strong, but it seems to be trading one negative for another. Did the Caps have trouble filling out 10 games? Was this by design? Any insight here?

Ryan,

Heck if I know. That would involve a thought process too deep to contemplate in my spare time. A good question, though. I'll ask around. Kelchner is a Susquehana (sp?) grad.....does he just like that area?....Salisbury, Wilkes, Rowan, Wesley.......Oh heck Ryan...now I'm actually giving it some thought...dang...right before a week on the beach, too!   ;D

It was my pleasure to get you all flummoxed before your week at the beach!  :D :D

But I suppose it can wait till you get back  ;)  If you do hear anything, let me know. Just something I'm curious about -- and my brain is already in football mode.

Have fun at the beach!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on June 19, 2008, 02:36:55 PM
Just read the article on the front page about former players in the AFL...and didn't see Jeff Hughley's name mentioned.  I thought he made the jump from AFL2 to the AFL this year.  Anybody know about his situation?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 19, 2008, 03:37:57 PM
He was waived by the Colorado Crush on Feb. 22 and I haven't seen any further transactions on him.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on June 19, 2008, 10:53:22 PM
It looks like he's back with the Tulsa Talons after getting cut by the Crush.

Roster:
http://tulsatalons.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50&Itemid=77

Press release about him:
http://tulsatalons.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=95&Itemid=2
Excerpt: "He returned to the Talons after going through training camp with the Arena Football League's Colorado Crush, and is off to another hot start in 2008 with nine TD catches in three games."

He's racked up a handful of awards this year with the Talons as Offensive Player of the Game, Ironman of the Game and Defensive Player of the Game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 24, 2008, 11:06:33 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on June 18, 2008, 06:00:19 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 18, 2008, 01:47:26 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on June 10, 2008, 11:42:46 PM
Hey 85,
This might be a thing for you to answer. While I loved CNU's matchups with Rowan, I always loathed how the out-of-region game counted for CNU come playoff time. Now, one of the additions to the sked for '08 is ANOTHER out of region team (Wilkes). Why is this?

I can appreciate the intent to keep the level of competition strong, but it seems to be trading one negative for another. Did the Caps have trouble filling out 10 games? Was this by design? Any insight here?

Ryan,

Heck if I know. That would involve a thought process too deep to contemplate in my spare time. A good question, though. I'll ask around. Kelchner is a Susquehana (sp?) grad.....does he just like that area?....Salisbury, Wilkes, Rowan, Wesley.......Oh heck Ryan...now I'm actually giving it some thought...dang...right before a week on the beach, too!   ;D

It was my pleasure to get you all flummoxed before your week at the beach!  :D :D

But I suppose it can wait till you get back  ;)  If you do hear anything, let me know. Just something I'm curious about -- and my brain is already in football mode.

Have fun at the beach!!

ahhhhhhhh! The beach is nice....so nice, in fact, that I'm not gonna bother looking up "flummoxed".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 03, 2008, 05:03:18 PM
Pat Coleman......just read the blog about your move. Best Wishes in the move. Hope everyone and everything makes it safely. Are you originally from MN?

I was actually thinking about trying to get up there this year for a Vikings game. Been a fan since 1969.


Skol Vikings!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on July 04, 2008, 03:15:06 PM
I just want to wish everyone a Happy and Safe 4th of July. If you have the opportunity make sure that you thank those who have or are currently serving to protect the very freedoms that we all enjoy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 04, 2008, 11:32:49 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 03, 2008, 05:03:18 PM
Pat Coleman......just read the blog about your move. Best Wishes in the move. Hope everyone and everything makes it safely. Are you originally from MN?

I was actually thinking about trying to get up there this year for a Vikings game. Been a fan since 1969.


Skol Vikings!!

I am. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 08, 2008, 04:23:09 PM
I was scanning the other regional boards last night and saw on one that they were asking for posters to come up with an All Star Team from the posters favorite school. (i.e. CNU85 would come up with his verison of CNU's all time best players at each position and so on).

Since I am still fairly new to DIII Football I will let someone else come up with Averett's all time best players.

The region I saw this on had some interesting discussing about the picks of everyone especially those picking the best from the same school. Just something to talk about till camp opens next month. Come on give it a shot. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 08, 2008, 04:27:43 PM
Make it real interesting and include all time best coaching staff. Mix them up if you want.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 08, 2008, 05:20:51 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on July 08, 2008, 04:23:09 PM
Since I am still fairly new to DIII Football I will let someone else come up with Averett's all time best players.

Averett is still fairly new to D-III football. I bet you wouldn't be too far off. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 10, 2008, 11:29:35 PM
Just a reminder to folks that I have regrettably turned in my resignation for the 2008 pick-em duties. Yeah, hold back those tears. I know you can do it.

Anyway I hope someone is willing to carry the torch. The job is open. If the pick-ems go on this year, I'll play, I just don't have the time to manage them like the past two seasons.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 12, 2008, 01:57:42 PM
I thought Matt was running pick em. I guess I am out of the loop. Tipps good job

Pat Coleman is moving to Minn. So does this mean no one is charge?

I take it you will keep these duties.

Where is the smooth as silk ADM Papi and his henchmen? Internet is slow here so cannot stay on too long, so there life for the Monarchs amd dreaded Panthers? Something I can read quick.

Its Saturday night here. Its down to 99. It feels much better. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 13, 2008, 02:46:57 AM
ABN...you know me...just hanging around Camp Lejeune teaching them marines and squids how to drive a boat.  When you get back to the states let me know...I'm gonna take you offshore fishing where we can share some beers and some stories.

Take care of yourself over there partner!!!  God Speed and Good Luck!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on July 13, 2008, 03:06:36 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on July 12, 2008, 01:57:42 PM
I thought Matt was running pick em. I guess I am out of the loop. Tipps good job

Pat Coleman is moving to Minn. So does this mean no one is charge?

I take it you will keep these duties.

Where is the smooth as silk ADM Papi and his henchmen? Internet is slow here so cannot stay on too long, so there life for the Monarchs amd dreaded Panthers? Something I can read quick.

Its Saturday night here. Its down to 99. It feels much better. ;)

     It's dry heat though right?  ;) :D Stay safe my man!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 13, 2008, 04:28:31 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on July 12, 2008, 01:57:42 PM
I thought Matt was running pick em. I guess I am out of the loop. Tipps good job

Matt runs the ODAC pick-ems. I ran the USAC ones.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 17, 2008, 11:16:23 PM
I chatted with a Greensboro Grimsley HS grad sporting Campbell University attire at my local YMCA today.  He's been at CU for a year now ... conditioning and working out with the Camels.  He said there is a lot of anticipation and excitement on campus about their return to football after such a long hiatus (yes, CU once had football!).  Campbell opens at home versus Birmingham-Southern on August 30, but it sounds as though a lot of Campbell fans will make the relatively short trip from Buies Creek to Fayetteville on September 6 when the Camels play Methodist in the Monarchs' opener!

Enjoy the game, narch, then I look forward to seeing you in Greensboro for the 7 pm start versus Guilford on the 13th!

September 6 is only 51 days away!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 18, 2008, 04:19:54 PM
Admiral
I should be in J'Ville on 15 or 16 OCT. I have to scat to Boston then CO. So lets meet at Hooters. Bring Narchster too. If he is not potificating. ;)

I can say it does blow here. You ought to see the mud Navy out there on the lakes. Smoking bags!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 24, 2008, 05:53:44 PM
UGHH!!!! Just looked at Pre-season All-Americans. 6 are on Wesley's roster - CNU's first opponent of the season!!

Ughhh!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 24, 2008, 08:12:19 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 24, 2008, 05:53:44 PM
UGHH!!!! Just looked at Pre-season All-Americans. 6 are on Wesley's roster - CNU's first opponent of the season!!

Ughhh!

Spread out all over the place, too: a running back, linebacker, O lineman, a DB, special teams.... Seems like there's almost always going to be one of them on the field.  :o :)

Don't sweat it, though. The last time I saw a regular season game in Newport News, I seem to recall that the No. 4 team in the country slumped off the field with a big "L" on it's record.  ;)  History can repeat itself....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 24, 2008, 09:00:02 PM
Cnu85

Me thinks ye protest to much!!!  But what a game to kick off the season... If my Aunt and Uncle still lived two streets down from the college I would make a weekend out of it.

  Just don't underestimate the abilities of the Wesley players named to the preseason team... They are as good as advertised. And yet I know too well that the game is Not played on paper. It's just a shame that we won't have one or two games to judge the teams on before they meet.. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: The Observation Deck on July 24, 2008, 10:47:03 PM
If you are looking for a silver lining in this, at least the guy who will have the ball in his hands on every snap is not one of the All-Americans.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2008, 04:43:32 PM
Quote from: The Observation Deck on July 24, 2008, 10:47:03 PM
If you are looking for a silver lining in this, at least the guy who will have the ball in his hands on every snap is not one of the All-Americans.

Wow...I fell much better now!  :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2008, 04:49:02 PM
Now this is funny.....I just noticed someone has been dinging my Karma from the mid 50's to under 20.....since you can only do it once every 24 hours.....that is dedication!!! If I knew who it was I'd give you a +1.....

"That right there is funny, I don't care who ya are"

:D :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on July 25, 2008, 04:49:26 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on July 24, 2008, 09:00:02 PM
Cnu85

Me thinks ye protest to much!!!  But what a game to kick off the season... If my Aunt and Uncle still lived two streets down from the college I would make a weekend out of it.

  Just don't underestimate the abilities of the Wesley players named to the preseason team... They are as good as advertised. And yet I know too well that the game is Not played on paper. It's just a shame that we won't have one or two games to judge the teams on before they meet.. 



VERY good as advertised
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 25, 2008, 05:32:23 PM
+1 for ya 85...I'm on a mission to bring you back up to the triple digits  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 25, 2008, 06:11:37 PM
And 20 looks soo much better than 19
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 25, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
24 and counting....of course, i'm the one who was dinging you these last 30 days, or so :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 25, 2008, 08:57:21 PM
Narch, where ya been hiding?  You haven't had any trips down to Wrightsville for the summer?  You should come down and visit before the season starts!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on July 25, 2008, 09:44:48 PM
cnu85, obviously observation deck hasnt seen the player who will have the ball each snap throw it, u have, let him know what to expect when it happens.  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2008, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: narch on July 25, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
24 and counting....of course, i'm the one who was dinging you these last 30 days, or so :)

shoulda guessed.....i noticed you've been whacked too......must be the GC folks!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2008, 11:11:42 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on July 25, 2008, 09:44:48 PM
cnu85, obviously observation deck hasnt seen the player who will have the ball each snap throw it, u have, let him know what to expect when it happens.  lol

yeah.....just some big kid with an arm.....Hopefully CNU, can find a few pass rushers out of the 120 kids coming to practice in a few weeks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2008, 11:13:50 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on July 25, 2008, 05:32:23 PM
+1 for ya 85...I'm on a mission to bring you back up to the triple digits  ;)

Gee thanks guys!!   :D

Now if my wife will like me enough to come home from a night at Hooters!! Hey - what's wrong with this picture??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2008, 11:15:21 PM
Must be getting close to football season.....we are starting to wake up from the long hibernation! Good to see everybody.....even that Nartch guy!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 05, 2008, 12:24:41 PM
Hey, kickerdad was the 26 millionth hit to the front page. Congrats! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 05, 2008, 04:53:26 PM
For maybe the first time ever, I agree 100 percent with the top rankings in the USA South preseason coaches' poll.

1. CNU
2. Ferrum
3. Maryville

Those are some smart picks and are in line with how I see the season playing out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 05, 2008, 05:26:05 PM
Maryville No. 3 -- finally getting some respect from the other coaches.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 06, 2008, 12:56:58 PM
It's good to see the conference getting some love in the first poll....N.C. Wesleyan and CNU at 28th and 32nd respectively.  I think Wesleyan lost too good of a playmaker at qb to sustain their success from last year.  CNU needs a qb themselves, from what I hear....Eric Nixon, a freshman from Poquoson, has a good chance to start, but I don't think he's ready yet.  The first two games are going to be brutal for CNU....they'll probably be fortunate to keep it close in those two....don't know much about Wilkes.  I guess we'll see what we see....

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 06, 2008, 01:48:56 PM
Quote from: swish3 on August 06, 2008, 12:56:58 PM
It's good to see the conference getting some love in the first poll....N.C. Wesleyan and CNU at 28th and 32nd respectively.  I think Wesleyan lost too good of a playmaker at qb to sustain their success from last year.  CNU needs a qb themselves, from what I hear....Eric Nixon, a freshman from Poquoson, has a good chance to start, but I don't think he's ready yet.  The first two games are going to be brutal for CNU....they'll probably be fortunate to keep it close in those two....don't know much about Wilkes.  I guess we'll see what we see....

GO CAPS!

I thought I read in the CNU Media Guide that the QB from last year (Faison) was a Jr. Did he graduate early or what?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 06, 2008, 01:52:35 PM
Quote from: swish3 on August 06, 2008, 12:56:58 PM
It's good to see the conference getting some love in the first poll....N.C. Wesleyan and CNU at 28th and 32nd respectively.  I think Wesleyan lost too good of a playmaker at qb to sustain their success from last year.  CNU needs a qb themselves, from what I hear....Eric Nixon, a freshman from Poquoson, has a good chance to start, but I don't think he's ready yet.  The first two games are going to be brutal for CNU....they'll probably be fortunate to keep it close in those two....don't know much about Wilkes.  I guess we'll see what we see....

GO CAPS!

I saw in the newspaper article that NCWC lost twenty plus seniors from last years team in addition to the coach. Averett lost 25 seniors year before last and you saw where they went. Is NCWC that loaded with talent? Averett had some talent but no experience.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 06, 2008, 07:15:07 PM
kickerdad,

Faison was a senior last year....

As far as Wesleyan goes, I think they were getting some love based on last year.  They probably won't be nearly as good, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Wesleyan and CNU receiving no votes after the first two weeks.  I hope that won't be the case....

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 06, 2008, 08:32:54 PM
I expect Wesley will run over CNU pretty heavily, though the Captains' defense seems to be stacked, so that could keep them somewhat in the game.

However, swish, I think you're overestimating Wilkes, perhaps giving them "some love based on past years."  ;) The Colonels will likely end up a middle of the pack MAC team this season and not nearly as formitable as they were in 2006 and before. CNU has an excellent chance of winning that game.

After Game 2, I'd expect CNU to be no worse in the poll than they are now -- and hopefully better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 06, 2008, 08:53:30 PM
Wesley will definitely be a tough one, but so will game 2 at Salisbury, which are the games I was referring to.  CNU will be licking their wounds against Wilkes, so perhaps that game will be just what the doctor ordered.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 06, 2008, 09:09:15 PM
Ah, my bad swish.  :-\ 

I hadn't double-checked the schedule and thought I remembered Wilkes being No. 2 on CNU's list. Sorry about that.

Salisbury will present a level of competition that should be weaker than Wesley but tougher than Wilkes. In fact, the Salisbury game might be the best measure of the season as to where CNU fits in on the national scale. It's a very winnable game, especially if CNU's run defense digs in its heels, but it also could be one that winds up biting the Captains on their keisters.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 06, 2008, 09:15:54 PM
Agreed, Ryan....CNU better have an answer for Salisbury's running game, 'cause they sure didn't last year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 06, 2008, 09:46:29 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 05, 2008, 05:26:05 PM
Maryville No. 3 -- finally getting some respect from the other coaches.
you know, for all the talk last year about lack of respect, the coaches were pretty darn close...they predicted that m'ville would finish 5th (and the margin between 3rd and 5th was pretty tight) and m'ville finished in a 3 way tie for 3rd...maybe we should respect the coaches for having pretty solid foresight...they really only missed badly on averett and ferrum

2007 USA South Coaches Poll
Rank Institution (1st place Votes) Pts.
1. N.C. Wesleyan (6) 48
2. Christopher Newport (2) 44
3. Methodist 33
4. Averett 31
5. Maryville 27
6. Ferrum 17
7. Greensboro 15
8. Shenandoah 9

i can't wait to see what it looks like when a lion attacks a camel :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 06, 2008, 10:12:59 PM
I will certainly applaud the USAC coaches for having the vision last year to recognize that NCW was going to come off a 6-4 saeason and field a great team, and even more significantly, to see that this year the Bishops aren't.

That's something I wish were better reflected in the national poll. NCW is a too high up the ladder for my tastes. Give it a week or two to right itself, though.

Anyway, it seems to me that maybe, in these last two seasons, the coaches are getting better (or more serious) about their poll.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 07, 2008, 05:02:39 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on August 06, 2008, 08:32:54 PM
I expect Wesley will run over CNU pretty heavily, though the Captains' defense seems to be stacked, so that could keep them somewhat in the game.

However, swish, I think you're overestimating Wilkes, perhaps giving them "some love based on past years."  ;) The Colonels will likely end up a middle of the pack MAC team this season and not nearly as formitable as they were in 2006 and before. CNU has an excellent chance of winning that game.

After Game 2, I'd expect CNU to be no worse in the poll than they are now -- and hopefully better.

Agreed! The CNU D will keep it a tough game, up to some point in the third quarter. Then they will be tired from being on the field for so long. CNU has figure out the QB situation. I'm not so sure the move of Long from the D to QB is a good move. He's the leader on the defense....so you not only lose that, but then you put a guy in at a key offensive position in which he hasn't played competitively since High School. Top that with top receiver Bradshaw being dilusional in thinking he's going to get any significant playing time at I-AA ODU after sitting out of competition for a year. I like the guy and hope he does well. I just don't see it happening at that level, under those circumstances.

Not sure about the O-line at CNU. I have to check the roster again and see who is back. But I seem to recall that there was going to be a few new faces.

Defense will be the usual CNU signature. But if CNU doesn't figure out an offensive scheme that is effective, the boys on D had better be in the best shape of their lives.

AHHH...but I fogrot about the Kelchner factor. He's got 60 new guys coming in. Wanna bet 2 or 3 of them make an immediate impact?

Also - I think it was Swish who mentioned a qb from Poquoson. I also hear there is a new kid from Northern Va that has the credentials on paper. Let's hope he can bring that onto the field and let Matt Long go back on D and smack the crap outta some people.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 08, 2008, 08:00:39 AM
Bradshaw won't be back?!?!  Now that sucks....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 10, 2008, 04:28:22 PM
yes it does....big time....

huge loss for the CNU offense.

Gotta move on.....maybe one of the new 60 guys is a speedster!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on August 10, 2008, 06:20:15 PM
Football football football.... Lets go CNU the season is near!!! Hello to all and hope you all had a good off season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 10, 2008, 10:04:56 PM
Training camp starts this week. Finally!!!!!!!!!!

Now lets hope the weather cools down and the next 4 weeks go by real fast. It has been a long "Off Season".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 13, 2008, 11:52:01 PM

OK - It has been a long long time, but  . . . . . . . I'm baaaack!!!

And feel free to ding my karma as much as you want - I'm still a GC fan . . . .

Practice has started - where are the updates from those that are there? Who's looking good?

Any hope this year for The Pride? What games might we win?

How do the QBs, RBs, WRs and defenses look in the conference this year?

Any news on any new Greensboro players?

Roll Pride!!! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 14, 2008, 12:14:08 AM
You should purchase Kickoff.

http://www.d3football.com/kickoff/

If you did, you'd be the first Greensboro fan to do so in the four-year history of the publication.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 14, 2008, 10:20:59 AM
Yeah, thanks Pat for the welcome back - - - I already purchased Kickoff right after I sent the message.

Do I get anything special for being the first GC fan in history to buy Kickoff?   :-*

Even a rasberry would be nice  ???. . .  . . . but I guess the online publication is reward enough - right, Pat?




Winsome Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on August 14, 2008, 02:20:46 PM
Shenandoah hires former Redskins Tackle Joe Jacoby as a full time volunteer assistant.
www.nvdaily.com/sports/308552081114189.bsp (http://www.nvdaily.com/sports/308552081114189.bsp)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 14, 2008, 03:31:35 PM
Quote from: Jeremybozz on August 14, 2008, 02:20:46 PM
Shenandoah hires former Redskins Tackle Joe Jacoby as a full time volunteer assistant.
www.nvdaily.com/sports/308552081114189.bsp (http://www.nvdaily.com/sports/308552081114189.bsp)
impressive "hire" for su...joe jacoby is a class act all the way, and i don't even like the 'skins :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 14, 2008, 04:47:10 PM
"If you did, you'd be the first Greensboro fan to do so in the four-year history of the publication".

Aw.... good to see "withering" smitings again ;)

Yes it is good to see Patster at work here in sunny Al Anbar. I will amdit we had a cooling trend at 112 today.

Narch-miss the analysis
Papi-miss the beer count you got racked up

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 14, 2008, 06:53:42 PM
Pat,

Last time I checked researching teams on the internet is free!

Just because all of the cool kids are doing it doenst mean we have to!

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 14, 2008, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on August 14, 2008, 10:20:59 AM


Even a rasberry would be nice  ???. . .  . .

Narch...you're slipping!!!

Was your New Year's resolution to be nice to GC fans?

It's "Raspberry"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 14, 2008, 07:15:30 PM
Quote from: Jeremybozz on August 14, 2008, 02:20:46 PM
Shenandoah hires former Redskins Tackle Joe Jacoby as a full time volunteer assistant.
www.nvdaily.com/sports/308552081114189.bsp (http://www.nvdaily.com/sports/308552081114189.bsp)

That will be an incredible expereince for the SU players. I hope they realize that this doesn't happen all the time and appreciate the moment.

cool beans!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 14, 2008, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 14, 2008, 06:53:42 PM
Pat,

Last time I checked researching teams on the internet is free!

Just because all of the cool kids are doing it doenst mean we have to!

Roll Pride!

Yep, no doubt. Just because every other school supports the site financially doesn't mean you do. We know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 14, 2008, 10:55:31 PM
Your site is awesome, Thanks.  Im just not into reading the bio's on every D3 team in the Nation.   

Beat Guilford!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 16, 2008, 06:30:06 AM
Quote from: narch on August 14, 2008, 03:31:35 PM

impressive "hire" for su...joe jacoby is a class act all the way, and i don't even like the 'skins :)
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Narch....don't tell me you are a Cowgirls fan...say it ain't so!!!
How's camp looking, have you poked your head down on the lower fields to see how the Monarchs are shaping up?

Abn...the new Charlie Oscar is working us so hard that the beer count is slipping.  The ol' man needs to get his priorities in line... ;D  Stay safe over there brother!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on August 16, 2008, 04:27:13 PM
Gentlemen, in case you haven't seen the front page, the has been a tragedy at Huntingdon college.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 16, 2008, 07:46:17 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on August 16, 2008, 06:30:06 AM
Narch....don't tell me you are a Cowgirls fan...say it ain't so!!!
How's camp looking, have you poked your head down on the lower fields to see how the Monarchs are shaping up?
i'm a homer...panthers fan

haven't had a chance to see any action yet, but reports are positive - there is some serious talent...let's see how that talent translates on the field
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2008, 01:12:36 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 14, 2008, 10:55:31 PM
Your site is awesome, Thanks.  Im just not into reading the bio's on every D3 team in the Nation.   

I doubt too many people read all 239 teams. It's just telling that not one Greensboro fan in four years cares enough to drop 5.95 or 9.95 to support the site and put their money where your mouth is.

Glad you think it's awesome. But it costs us a bunch of money to keep the site in operation for you to use for free. Thankfully, 238 other schools are funding your habit.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 17, 2008, 02:09:55 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2008, 01:12:36 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 14, 2008, 10:55:31 PM
Your site is awesome, Thanks.  Im just not into reading the bio's on every D3 team in the Nation.   

I doubt too many people read all 239 teams. It's just telling that not one Greensboro fan in four years cares enough to drop 5.95 or 9.95 to support the site and put their money where your mouth is.

Glad you think it's awesome. But it costs us a bunch of money to keep the site in operation for you to use for free. Thankfully, 238 other schools are funding your habit.


Uhh . . . . Pat - I know you're enjoying this little non-football thread, but you can never say again that not one GC fan has ever purchased your membership.  Am I right?!? Sorry, but I bought it , , , , 8)

Me thinks you may have other unmentionable issues with GC, not that I care - but I do enjoy your site - you guys do a great job that I am sure is not very rewarding and is thankless and tiring. :)

BTW, does this post hurt my karma?  :o


Are there any answers to the questions I asked about FOOTBALL? Enough of the 'buy this or you're a jerk' stuff. What's happening at the USA SAC FOOTBALL camps?  I am especially interested in The Pride team (er - GC - sorry)  :-*


Show some Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 17, 2008, 08:59:10 AM
Welcome aboard, D3Newbie!  +1!

Pat and the guys decided to add content to the site by creating KICKOFF!  With the revenue that he gets from the subscription to the pre-season e-mag, he was able to discontinue "pop-ups" on the message baords as a source of ad revenue.  The extra income also permitted some plane flights to see teams around the country.

It is all about building D3 fan base!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 17, 2008, 09:31:55 AM
Yeah Thank God for those other schools
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2008, 01:07:31 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on August 17, 2008, 02:09:55 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 17, 2008, 01:12:36 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 14, 2008, 10:55:31 PM
Your site is awesome, Thanks.  Im just not into reading the bio's on every D3 team in the Nation.   

I doubt too many people read all 239 teams. It's just telling that not one Greensboro fan in four years cares enough to drop 5.95 or 9.95 to support the site and put their money where your mouth is.

Glad you think it's awesome. But it costs us a bunch of money to keep the site in operation for you to use for free. Thankfully, 238 other schools are funding your habit.


Uhh . . . . Pat - I know you're enjoying this little non-football thread, but you can never say again that not one GC fan has ever purchased your membership.  Am I right?!? Sorry, but I bought it , , , , 8)

Me thinks you may have other unmentionable issues with GC, not that I care - but I do enjoy your site - you guys do a great job that I am sure is not very rewarding and is thankless and tiring. :)

BTW, does this post hurt my karma?  :o


Are there any answers to the questions I asked about FOOTBALL? Enough of the 'buy this or you're a jerk' stuff. What's happening at the USA SAC FOOTBALL camps?  I am especially interested in The Pride team (er - GC - sorry)  :-*


Show some Pride!

Yes. This week you were the first to do it. Congrats and thanks for supporting D3football.com.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 17, 2008, 04:13:00 PM

Thanks, Ralph!

and Pat - $9.95 a month is a cheap price to pay to read somebody talking about D3 Football - no place else to go and nothing else like it . Seriously, thanks! :)



BTW, something is wrong with my karma - it looks like it went up - whats with that!?!?



com'on, Pride, WINSOME!! 8)


any updates on the Big Green Pride practices yet? I heard they practiced at 8AM this morning - on SUNDAY! Don't want to mess with the Big Guys day of rest - we need all the help we can get!  ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 17, 2008, 10:53:45 PM
Greenboro visits Guilford at 7 pm on September 6.  Will Vogelbach make it a career sweep?  It should be a good one!  I hope the Greensboro fans will give me a heads up of where you'll be and I'll say hello.  Oh yeah, one more thing ...

Go Quakers!  See you then!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on August 19, 2008, 12:27:13 AM
Whats going on everyone? I am new to the board and would like to say i have enjoyed all of your discussions throughout my years at CNU. I just graduated this past semester, so i figured I would finally join the board (since Coach K can't make me run anymore ). First of all I would like to thank all the CNU supporters who have cheered us/me on.  Now that I am an ulumn, i will be one of the biggest supporters of the Captains.  I had the pleasure of sitting in on the Captains practice yesterday, and the boys are looking good. I'm very excited about this year.  Let's get the discussions rolling boys.
-GO CAPTAINS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 19, 2008, 08:31:45 AM
Welcome aboard, cnu63!

+1!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 19, 2008, 11:50:09 AM
Quote from: cnu63 on August 19, 2008, 12:27:13 AM
Whats going on everyone? I am new to the board and would like to say i have enjoyed all of your discussions throughout my years at CNU. I just graduated this past semester, so i figured I would finally join the board (since Coach K can't make me run anymore ). First of all I would like to thank all the CNU supporters who have cheered us/me on.  Now that I am an ulumn, i will be one of the biggest supporters of the Captains.  I had the pleasure of sitting in on the Captains practice yesterday, and the boys are looking good. I'm very excited about this year.  Let's get the discussions rolling boys.
-GO CAPTAINS!

Welcome 63! Hey, Coach K just called me. He wanted me to tell you that he expects you at practice today...he has some laps for you to run!  :D :D

ok...so he didn't call. But he will find a way to make you run!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 19, 2008, 12:32:36 PM
Quote from: cnu63 on August 19, 2008, 12:27:13 AM
Whats going on everyone? I am new to the board and would like to say i have enjoyed all of your discussions throughout my years at CNU. I just graduated this past semester, so i figured I would finally join the board (since Coach K can't make me run anymore ). First of all I would like to thank all the CNU supporters who have cheered us/me on.  Now that I am an ulumn, i will be one of the biggest supporters of the Captains.  I had the pleasure of sitting in on the Captains practice yesterday, and the boys are looking good. I'm very excited about this year.  Let's get the discussions rolling boys.
-GO CAPTAINS!


Welcome cnu63. Hope you enjoy these boards as much as I have. Are you from the Virginia/Tidewater area? Even though my son plays at Averett, we know a lot of folks at CNU. It is like a reunion when I go over there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 20, 2008, 11:13:41 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 19, 2008, 08:31:45 AM
Welcome aboard, cnu63!

+1!  :)
My welcome also, cnu63.  Check out the other boards as well, especially in the early part of the season, when there are a lot of inter-conference games.  I follow the ODAC and some of the southernmost schools often have a steady diet of USASAC teams before they get into conference play.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 22, 2008, 11:56:21 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on August 13, 2008, 11:52:01 PM

Practice has started - where are the updates from those that are there? Who's looking good?

Any hope this year for The Pride? What games might we win?

How do the QBs, RBs, WRs and defenses look in the conference this year?

Any news on any new Greensboro players?


GC FB is practicing - right?

Do they play any scrimmage games this year, or are they saving it all for the conference?

Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 22, 2008, 09:43:06 PM
caught about 40-45 plays of the monarch scrimmage today - they were pretty dominant against a bigger, more athletic louisburg team - on defense...lc had just 2 plays of more than 5 yards in about 25-30 snaps and the defense forced 2 to's, had a sack and had 3 or 4 negative yardage plays...and scored a td in a special teams drill (blocked fg) - i wasn't sure what to think of the defense with all the losses at lb, but the dl looks improved and the back-end is playing like they did at the end of the year last year...which is to say, pretty well

on offense, the monarchs threw an early int that didn't look great, but the had a sustained drive of around 6-8 plays that covered around 40 yards before it stalled out - there is a te that made a really nice catch and dragged some guys with him - the running game looked solid and the qb's made solid decisions - the offense still seemed a bit vanilla, but i was pleased with the limited action i saw

louisburg is a tough read, though - the roster is so fluid there, that it's hard to get a good read on what they'll be - they are big, though, and their qb was about 6'2", with a big (albeit inaccurate) arm and the ability to run around...the monarch defense seemed to really bottle him up - they had some big wr's, but the monarch db's looked bigger than usual - the mu defense was very aggressive today bring some blitzes and flying around

this little glimpse of the season has me pretty jacked up about 9/6/08
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 23, 2008, 09:44:52 AM
That would be a tough scrimmage to judge.  Most of those Louisburg kids are right out of hs??  So Methodist is playing with a much more developed team. 

Who is starting at qb for methodist?


roll pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 23, 2008, 02:06:01 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 23, 2008, 09:44:52 AM
That would be a tough scrimmage to judge.  Most of those Louisburg kids are right out of hs??  So Methodist is playing with a much more developed team. 

Who is starting at qb for methodist?

roll pride
lc's players are all frosh or sophs...but many are legit d1/d2 talents who didn't qualify academically - from a raw ability standpoint, most of them would be in the mix for burn at any usasac school, even as frosh - you're right, though, they are young and less developed than those at a 4 year school, but i'm not sure i would say much less developed - look around the usasac and see how many frosh and sophs are on 2 deep charts...

teague is starting at qb, and i think it's his job to lose (this is not based on anything other than my gut feeling and what i saw yesterday) - he's the son of a coach who knows the game, he's smart, he can run and he makes good decisions...i'm confident that the monarch offense will be in capable hands with him - i'm hearing that the wr's that mu brought in are very talented and they've got a pretty good wr coach working with them, harrison & mcguire are going to be a very effective tandem with different running styles (i'm hearing there is a freshman rb who will be in the mix, as well) - the line isn't as deep as it has been in the past, but it's talented and coach funderburk will get them to perform
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on August 24, 2008, 11:05:01 AM
is everyone ready for the season to start? I know I am waiting for the annual showdown with Guilford.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 24, 2008, 01:02:50 PM
Looking forward to watching the Guilford game. Last one I was at was the overtime field goal game.

Anyone know anything about how The Pride looks this year at practice?  Thanks!


winsome pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 24, 2008, 06:41:01 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on August 24, 2008, 01:02:50 PM
Looking forward to watching the Guilford game. Last one I was at was the overtime field goal game.

Anyone know anything about how The Pride looks this year at practice?  Thanks!


winsome pride
Yeah, I was also at that 2006 game ... I don't think I'd ever seen a FG attempt actually land directly on top of the upright!  When that was waved off, Guilford won 36-30 in 2 OT when Josh Vogelbach hooked up on a 25-yard walk-off strike down the left side to Chris Barnette.  In fact, all of the games the last three years have been exciting ... hope this year is too.  I look forward to meeting some fans at the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 25, 2008, 11:43:47 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quote from: Ryan Tipps on Yesterday at 08:22:25 pm
Quote from: GCGullett on Yesterday at 11:00:12 am
is there going to be a pickem this year?


I hope there will be, but I can't run it this year. Too much going on with my ATR column to run the numbers for a pick-em contest.

I hope someone will accept the duties.


I vote for CNU85

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on August 26, 2008, 11:01:07 AM
Quote from: hasanova on August 24, 2008, 06:41:01 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on August 24, 2008, 01:02:50 PM
Looking forward to watching the Guilford game. Last one I was at was the overtime field goal game.

Anyone know anything about how The Pride looks this year at practice?  Thanks!


winsome pride
Yeah, I was also at that 2006 game ... I don't think I'd ever seen a FG attempt actually land directly on top of the upright!  When that was waved off, Guilford won 36-30 in 2 OT when Josh Vogelbach hooked up on a 25-yard walk-off strike down the left side to Chris Barnette.  In fact, all of the games the last three years have been exciting ... hope this year is too.  I look forward to meeting some fans at the game.

i totally agree with that.....+1.......it is always a exciting game at least all of the ones that i have seen. What is the latest on Josh, I heard that he has still having problems with his shoulder that he injured in our game last season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on August 26, 2008, 09:39:43 PM
The boys in blue from CNU are looking good, somewhat young but looking good. Matt Long at QB is going to open up the play book alot in my opinion and the O-line should be tough. The back field will be stacked and the D-line will get after it all day as always. We have a big scrimmage against Hamden- sydney (spelling sorry) this weekend, so hopefully we will get to see how tough the Captains will be this year.  Tough opener (as always at CNU) against top five Wesley, and I'll be there tail-gateing my A$$ off.  Im excited about this year fellas, wish I had another year of eligability. Good luck to all the teams in the USAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 26, 2008, 10:32:32 PM
Just started reading Kickoff. So far, another great job by Pat and his crew. I only have one disagreement and I hope the d3football.com crew knows something I don't. They have CNU finishing at 9-1. Not too sure about that. But I'll take it!

Also been reading the CNU media guide at cnusports.com. On paper, they have some very interesting new guys. A QB that passed for over 3,000 yds in his senior season. All-State players. All-State track guy. Even a kid I once coached in baseball. An All-State AAA football player who was also a starter on the coaches state all-star team.

One thing I did notice and kudos to CNU coaches and to the young men they recruited. Many of CNU players were members of the National Honor Society. They also were involved in school clubs, graduated with honors, were youth mentors, involved in church, on and on.... If you ever ask yourself about today's generation, go take a peak at the bios of these young men. I know I'm bragging a little about CNU. But hey -seriously, go take a look at the media guide. CNU recruits character and academics as much as football talent. D3 the way it's supposed to be!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 26, 2008, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 25, 2008, 11:43:47 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quote from: Ryan Tipps on Yesterday at 08:22:25 pm
Quote from: GCGullett on Yesterday at 11:00:12 am
is there going to be a pickem this year?


I hope there will be, but I can't run it this year. Too much going on with my ATR column to run the numbers for a pick-em contest.

I hope someone will accept the duties.


I vote for CNU85



HAHAHA. I wish I could find the time. My fear is I would start out ok, and then something would come up with work or family that would let you guys down. Then the fun would be gone. Heck, last year I didn't have time to turn in  my picks every week.  And now this year, I've joined a second fantasy league. I've been so busy this year I haven't played golf since May!!!!!!! That's a crime!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 26, 2008, 11:25:33 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 26, 2008, 10:32:32 PM
Just started reading Kickoff. So far, another great job by Pat and his crew. I only have one disagreement and I hope the d3football.com crew knows something I don't. They have CNU finishing at 9-1. Not too sure about that. But I'll take it!

Also been reading the CNU media guide at cnusports.com. On paper, they have some very interesting new guys. A QB that passed for over 3,000 yds in his senior season. All-State players. All-State track guy. Even a kid I once coached in baseball. An All-State AAA football player who was also a starter on the coaches state all-star team.

One thing I did notice and kudos to CNU coaches and to the young men they recruited. Many of CNU players were members of the National Honor Society. They also were involved in school clubs, graduated with honors, were youth mentors, involved in church, on and on.... If you ever ask yourself about today's generation, go take a peak at the bios of these young men. I know I'm bragging a little about CNU. But hey -seriously, go take a look at the media guide. CNU recruits character and academics as much as football talent. D3 the way it's supposed to be!



Great question on CNU -- Keith and I vary widely on our opinions here. He wanted to rank CNU in the 20s and I wanted to rank them in the 60s. It's probably the team we are furthest apart on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 27, 2008, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: GCGullett on August 26, 2008, 11:01:07 AM
Quote from: hasanova on August 24, 2008, 06:41:01 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on August 24, 2008, 01:02:50 PM
Looking forward to watching the Guilford game. Last one I was at was the overtime field goal game.

Anyone know anything about how The Pride looks this year at practice?  Thanks!


winsome pride
Yeah, I was also at that 2006 game ... I don't think I'd ever seen a FG attempt actually land directly on top of the upright!  When that was waved off, Guilford won 36-30 in 2 OT when Josh Vogelbach hooked up on a 25-yard walk-off strike down the left side to Chris Barnette.  In fact, all of the games the last three years have been exciting ... hope this year is too.  I look forward to meeting some fans at the game.

i totally agree with that.....+1.......it is always a exciting game at least all of the ones that i have seen. What is the latest on Josh, I heard that he has still having problems with his shoulder that he injured in our game last season.
Thanks.  I've seen all eleven GC vs GC games, so my streak's still alive!  I've been on the practice field sideline a couple of times to watch Josh throw and haven't noticed any problems, but there may be an underlying problem of which I'm not aware.  I'll check around and see what I can discover.

Let me know if you're attending the Sept. 6 game - I'd like to say hello.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 27, 2008, 04:21:18 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 26, 2008, 11:25:33 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 26, 2008, 10:32:32 PM
Just started reading Kickoff. So far, another great job by Pat and his crew. I only have one disagreement and I hope the d3football.com crew knows something I don't. They have CNU finishing at 9-1. Not too sure about that. But I'll take it!

Also been reading the CNU media guide at cnusports.com. On paper, they have some very interesting new guys. A QB that passed for over 3,000 yds in his senior season. All-State players. All-State track guy. Even a kid I once coached in baseball. An All-State AAA football player who was also a starter on the coaches state all-star team.

One thing I did notice and kudos to CNU coaches and to the young men they recruited. Many of CNU players were members of the National Honor Society. They also were involved in school clubs, graduated with honors, were youth mentors, involved in church, on and on.... If you ever ask yourself about today's generation, go take a peak at the bios of these young men. I know I'm bragging a little about CNU. But hey -seriously, go take a look at the media guide. CNU recruits character and academics as much as football talent. D3 the way it's supposed to be!



Great question on CNU -- Keith and I vary widely on our opinions here. He wanted to rank CNU in the 20s and I wanted to rank them in the 60s. It's probably the team we are furthest apart on.

That is interesting Pat. I believe the issue is that we really don't know about the offense until they get on the field. I think the defense, especially the line, will be one of the best in the region. The issue with the offense is that the QB and WR positions are unknown. The line is unknown. Starting the season against Wesley and Salisbury might not be the best way for the offense to "find itself".

The other side of the coin is that in past years, when CNU had pre-season holes, Kelchner and his coaches found answers. So, the pragmatic side of me says 7-3. The "give the coaches the benefit of doubt" side of me says 9-1 or 8-2 are quite possible.

A good offensive showing in game #1 would be tremendous news and a huge boost of confidence and a statement to the region and conference. A poor offensive game #1 might not mean anything at all.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 27, 2008, 04:47:21 PM
Alright, well, hope all's well.  :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 28, 2008, 10:49:00 PM
Does anyone know how The Pride did tonight against Davidson?

Who looked good - who looked bad?  Where did we look good and where do we really need work?

thanks!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on August 31, 2008, 11:47:43 AM

TESTING - TESTING - ONE, TWO THREE . . . . . .

IS THIS THING WORKING?

It is football season - right?

As a GC fan - I feel so alone . . . . .  :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on August 31, 2008, 12:11:09 PM
Don't worry...the board will light up when some games start being played.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 31, 2008, 12:16:29 PM
Quote from: D3Newbie on August 31, 2008, 11:47:43 AM

TESTING - TESTING - ONE, TWO THREE . . . . . .

IS THIS THING WORKING?

It is football season - right?

As a GC fan - I feel so alone . . . . .  :'(

Look me up Saturday night at Guilford and say hello.   Not sure where you live, but the Greensboro News & Record is reviewing both Guilford and Greensboro in Friday's (9/5) edition ...  just in time for the Soup(er) Bowl the next night.  Even if you're not in town, I think you could read it in their online edition.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 31, 2008, 12:24:30 PM
There are four DIII schools in NC ... Greensboro, Guilford, Methodist and NCWC.  Guilford's played MU and the Pride every year since they started football, but has never played Wesleyan on the gridiron.  If we could get this game going, we could have an unofficial NC DIII trophy every year.  Anyone ever heard anything about the Quakers and the Bishops scheduling a game?  No offense meant to Southern Virginia, but this would be a better fan draw and a qualified regional game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 31, 2008, 11:06:01 PM
i am so sick of reading about campbell football in the raleigh news & observer and the fayetteville observer that i could throw up...if i have to read one more "i never thought i'd be playing division I football" comment again...you're NOT playing division 1 football...it's div 1aa NON-SCHOLARSHIP, pretty much d3, except with no chance of ever playing for a national title - i hope the monarchs can make a statement to everyone in the raleigh/fayetteville area next weekend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on August 31, 2008, 11:55:39 PM
Quote from: narch on August 31, 2008, 11:06:01 PM
i am so sick of reading about campbell football in the raleigh news & observer and the fayetteville observer that i could throw up...if i have to read one more "i never thought i'd be playing division I football" comment again...you're NOT playing division 1 football...it's div 1aa NON-SCHOLARSHIP, pretty much d3, except with no chance of ever playing for a national title - i hope the monarchs can make a statement to everyone in the raleigh/fayetteville area next weekend

  Narch

Preception of prestige of playing for an 0-11 DI ,DIAA(or what ever its called ) school means more to some players and parents than playing for a DIII or in some cases a DII team.  Right or Wrong that's how they feel. And in the pecking order of things the papers will lean towrad the bigger schools
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2008, 12:11:29 AM
Narch....I tend to agree. I didn't really know anything about Campbell. So, I started the internet research. When I found out they were non-scholarship, I thought, "big whoop". Why the D1-AA label?

Here's a question for someone with time on their hands.....we know there are 239 d3 football teams. How many NAIA? How many D1AA Non scholly? How many in other affiliations similar to d3? Why do schools choose one over another? It would be nice to know how many teams are out there like Campbell, or UVA-Wise, or Southern Virginia, or Newport News Shipyard Apprentice.

Yeah, I know...that was more than one question. I was on a roll.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2008, 12:12:49 AM
Anybody have the scoop on the CNU/HSC closed scrimmage?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 01, 2008, 12:13:59 AM
There are 92 NAIA football programs this season.
Typically there are about 130 FBS and FCS programs. Not sure about D-II offhand.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2008, 12:15:01 AM
Thanks PAt. That was quick. Any idea how many FCS are non scholarship?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 01, 2008, 12:19:08 AM
No, but it's not very many, I think fewer than 25. They keep dropping the sport.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2008, 12:20:54 AM
Still....between d3, NAIA and FCS non Scholarship ....that's a ton of schools.

hey - I noticed the ad above about Duke ringtones. Man, they win one game and they have ring tones already?  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 01, 2008, 02:32:33 AM
Agreed Narch....I hope the Monarchs can make a statement against the camels!!!

When ya coming back down to visit....the fishing is great and the scenery....well you know what it's like!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptainChris on September 01, 2008, 02:45:07 PM
The HSC/CNU scrimmage wasn't really "closed" b/c there was quite a bit of people there.  CNU won by 2 TD's.  Defensive starters looked good.  HSC's first team offense didn't score on CNU's first team defense but scored on their second team.  As for the offense, they scored 3 TD's on 3 consecutive series after going 3 and out on their first possesion and losing a fumble in the redzone in the second series.  I'm not sure how many seniors HSC lost from last year but they looked really young and unexperienced.  Hopefully the Captains are ready for Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 01, 2008, 02:45:40 PM
I can't wait for the game this weekend. We need to really have a big game with a large crowd expected. I noticed the paper say MU is expecting 10,000 for this one. That would probably be a record if they get anything close to that.

There are just way too many schools in NC right now, and it is getting harder for the D3 schools to recruit. Last year UNCP opened and stole some thunder, and now Campbell is doing the same. Kids are more likely to go to a subpar bigger school than a established smaller school. Some of these kids need to realize what they are getting themselves into.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 01, 2008, 03:23:51 PM
Quote from: rocket on September 01, 2008, 02:45:40 PM
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There are just way too many schools in NC right now, and it is getting harder for the D3 schools to recruit. Last year UNCP opened and stole some thunder, and now Campbell is doing the same. Kids are more likely to go to a subpar bigger school than a established smaller school. Some of these kids need to realize what they are getting themselves into.
Interesting thoughts...

I think that those kids will realize what is happening.  Kids have been going to Davidson to play non-scholarship D-I FCS ball for a long time.  Pembroke tapped into a local market in D-II.

The thing that is driving schools to add football is gender ratios in the respective student bodies.  Recruiting will get tougher, but I also believe that the mindset that needs to occur in the South is that D-III ball is good ball and that it is an excellent option for "student-athletes".

Was there not enough football talent in NC for the teams there?  Most states will not declare that they have too many schools for the "paltry amount of football talent" that is in their state.

An attitude change in the state about D-III can make a huge difference about the success of the programs there.  That is what I try to fight in circles who do not know about the virtues of D-III!

At D-III, the student-athlete can go to class, practice, study, sleep. Go to class, practice, study, sleep. Go to class, practice, study to stay eligible, sleep.  Game day.

Alternatively, the former student-athlete goes off to "big school".  The routine becomes "he/she skips class, parties, gets hungover, oversleeps, misses class, flunks out with thousands of dollars of school loans and no prospects for a decent job."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 01, 2008, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 01, 2008, 03:23:51 PM
Quote from: rocket on September 01, 2008, 02:45:40 PM
...
There are just way too many schools in NC right now, and it is getting harder for the D3 schools to recruit. Last year UNCP opened and stole some thunder, and now Campbell is doing the same. Kids are more likely to go to a subpar bigger school than a established smaller school. Some of these kids need to realize what they are getting themselves into.

The thing that is driving schools to add football is gender ratios in the respective student bodies.  Recruiting will get tougher, but I also believe that the mindset that needs to occur in the South is that D-III ball is good ball and that it is an excellent option for "student-athletes".

Ralph:

You hit the nail on the head with the gender ratios!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 01, 2008, 08:52:08 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 01, 2008, 02:32:33 AM
Agreed Narch....I hope the Monarchs can make a statement against the camels!!!

When ya coming back down to visit....the fishing is great and the scenery....well you know what it's like!!!
i'll be down your way next week...let's get together - 22 north, wednesday and/or thursday night...you know the drill :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 01, 2008, 08:55:44 PM
Quote from: rocket on September 01, 2008, 02:45:40 PM
I can't wait for the game this weekend. We need to really have a big game with a large crowd expected. I noticed the paper say MU is expecting 10,000 for this one. That would probably be a record if they get anything close to that.

There are just way too many schools in NC right now, and it is getting harder for the D3 schools to recruit. Last year UNCP opened and stole some thunder, and now Campbell is doing the same. Kids are more likely to go to a subpar bigger school than a established smaller school. Some of these kids need to realize what they are getting themselves into.
preach it, rocket...how does sv look this year?

and i'm thinking the paper meant 1,000, not 10,000 :)

i wouldn't be surprised to see 2,000+ with campbell bringing a pretty nice contingency - i'm hoping it will be over quickly as i have to leave at around 1/2 time (that will be a common theme this year...the daughter is cheering, and as much as i love the monarchs, gotta watch the little girl do her thing!)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 01, 2008, 09:11:18 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 01, 2008, 03:23:51 PMI think that those kids will realize what is happening.  Kids have been going to Davidson to play non-scholarship D-I FCS ball for a long time.  Pembroke tapped into a local market in D-II.
you've got to admit, davidson is a pretty unique place...and from what i understand, a few of davidson's non-scholarship football players do have track scholarships...might just be a rumor, but it's been floating around for a long time

Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 01, 2008, 03:23:51 PMhe thing that is driving schools to add football is gender ratios in the respective student bodies.  Recruiting will get tougher, but I also believe that the mindset that needs to occur in the South is that D-III ball is good ball and that it is an excellent option for "student-athletes".
with over 30 football playing schools in NC, and only 4 d3 programs, it's an uphill battle...parents and kids in this state (and most of their coaches) seem to have been conditioned to expect football scholarships if they're half way decent - if they don't get one, they see themselves (or are made to feel) inferior - i can assure you that mu, ncwc, gc and guilford are doing all they can to educate folks about the benefits of d3, but it's not easy
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 01, 2008, 11:13:28 PM
Quote from: narch on September 01, 2008, 09:11:18 PM
with over 30 football playing schools in NC
These are the schools I know - I make no promises I got the conferences and NCAA level correct:

1. Appalachian (DI-AA Southern)
2. Brevard (DII South Atlantic)
3. Campbell (DIAA non-scholarship Pioneer)
4. Catawba (DII South Atlantic)
5. Chowan (DII CIAA)
6. Davidson (DIAA non-scholarship Pioneer)
7. Duke (DI ACC)
8. East Carolina (DI Conference USA)
9. Elizabeth City State (DII CIAA)
10. Elon (DIAA - Southern)
11. Fayetteville State (DII CIAA)
12. Gardner-Webb (DIAA Big South)
13. Greensboro (DIII USA South)
14. Guilford (DIII ODAC)
15. Johnson C. Smith (DII CIAA)
16. Lenoir Rhyne (DII South Atlantic)
17. Livingstone (DII CIAA)
18. Louisburg (JC)
19. Mars Hill (DII South Atlantic)
20. Methodist (DIII USA South)
21. North Carolina (DI ACC)
22. NC A&T (DIAA MEAC)
23. NC Central (was DII CIAA, now Independent)
24. NC State (DI ACC)
25. NC Wesleyan (DIII USA South)
26. Saint Augustine (DII CIAA)
27. Shaw (DII CIAA)
28. UNC-Pembroke (Peach Belt is DII, but not sure who else has football)
29. Wake Forest (DI ACC)
30. Western Carolina (DIAA Southern)
31. Wingate (DII South Atlantic)
32. Winston-Salem State (DIAA MEAC)

I also hear High Point and UNCG in the football talk.  If HPU starts giving scholarships for Big South play, the talent funnel gets even tighter in Guilford County, where there are already three football playing schools.  In the Metro area, there are already six:  Elon, Greensboro, Guilford, NC A&T, Wake Forest and Winston-Salem State.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 01, 2008, 11:28:53 PM
Thanks nova, +1!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 02, 2008, 01:57:43 AM
Even though, no DIII football this weekend as far as I know... I just wanna say thank God football is back.  It was like the neverending stay at grandma's waiting for this season to start!  Good luck eveyone this year and watchout for the scots and Hightower.  Gonna be a season to remember for the Scots I believe...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 02, 2008, 08:17:43 AM
a little monarch love (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=303365) from the fayetteville observer...i love the thought of 10,000 at monarch stadium, but i don't think we'll see more than 2,500

camel is on the menu this weekend :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 02, 2008, 09:35:32 AM
Quote from: narch on September 02, 2008, 08:17:43 AM
a little monarch love (http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=303365) from the fayetteville observer...i love the thought of 10,000 at monarch stadium, but i don't think we'll see more than 2,500

camel is on the menu this weekend :)
Good luck to the Monarchs this weekend ... hope you have an SRO crowd!  If you make the trip to Guilford next weekend, let me know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 02, 2008, 10:36:31 AM
Narch, I actually just jumped ship again, and I am the QB Coach at Jack Britt HS. We have an extremely talented team, and we already put up 115 points in our first two games. We actually have to play South View this week so it will be an interesting reunion for me.

10,000 seemed like a lot to me, but now I don't even think MU will get 2,000 with the weather situation this weekend. I guess we will find out soon. Go MU!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2008, 01:19:19 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 01, 2008, 11:13:28 PM
Quote from: narch on September 01, 2008, 09:11:18 PM
with over 30 football playing schools in NC
These are the schools I know - I make no promises I got the conferences and NCAA level correct:

1. Appalachian (DI-AA Southern)
2. Brevard (DII South Atlantic)
3. Campbell (DIAA non-scholarship Pioneer)
4. Catawba (DII South Atlantic)
5. Chowan (DII CIAA)
6. Davidson (DIAA non-scholarship Pioneer)
7. Duke (DI ACC)
8. East Carolina (DI Conference USA)
9. Elizabeth City State (DII CIAA)
10. Elon (DIAA - Southern)
11. Fayetteville State (DII CIAA)
12. Gardner-Webb (DIAA Big South)
13. Greensboro (DIII USA South)
14. Guilford (DIII ODAC)
15. Johnson C. Smith (DII CIAA)
16. Lenoir Rhyne (DII South Atlantic)
17. Livingstone (DII CIAA)
18. Louisburg (JC)
19. Mars Hill (DII South Atlantic)
20. Methodist (DIII USA South)
21. North Carolina (DI ACC)
22. NC A&T (DIAA MEAC)
23. NC Central (was DII CIAA, now Independent)
24. NC State (DI ACC)
25. NC Wesleyan (DIII USA South)
26. Saint Augustine (DII CIAA)
27. Shaw (DII CIAA)
28. UNC-Pembroke (Peach Belt is DII, but not sure who else has football)
29. Wake Forest (DI ACC)
30. Western Carolina (DIAA Southern)
31. Wingate (DII South Atlantic)
32. Winston-Salem State (DIAA MEAC)

I also hear High Point and UNCG in the football talk.  If HPU starts giving scholarships for Big South play, the talent funnel gets even tighter in Guilford County, where there are already three football playing schools.  In the Metro area, there are already six:  Elon, Greensboro, Guilford, NC A&T, Wake Forest and Winston-Salem State.   

hasanova:

N.C. Central is now DI and seeking admission into the MEAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 02, 2008, 01:57:49 PM
Quote from: rocket on September 02, 2008, 10:36:31 AM
Narch, I actually just jumped ship again, and I am the QB Coach at Jack Britt HS. We have an extremely talented team, and we already put up 115 points in our first two games. We actually have to play South View this week so it will be an interesting reunion for me.
you've got a pretty fair qb to tutor @ jbhs, don't you - is sherman still on the jbhs staff?  i'm expecting to see plenty of bucaneers becoming monarchs during your tenure there!  if you're at the game saturday, look me up...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 02, 2008, 02:59:29 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 01, 2008, 11:13:28 PM
Quote from: narch on September 01, 2008, 09:11:18 PM
with over 30 football playing schools in NC
These are the schools I know - I make no promises I got the conferences and NCAA level correct:

1. Appalachian (DI-AA Southern)
2. Brevard (DII South Atlantic)
3. Campbell (DIAA non-scholarship Pioneer)
4. Catawba (DII South Atlantic)
5. Chowan (DII CIAA)
6. Davidson (DIAA non-scholarship Pioneer)
7. Duke (DI ACC)
8. East Carolina (DI Conference USA)
9. Elizabeth City State (DII CIAA)
10. Elon (DIAA - Southern)
11. Fayetteville State (DII CIAA)
12. Gardner-Webb (DIAA Big South)
13. Greensboro (DIII USA South)
14. Guilford (DIII ODAC)
15. Johnson C. Smith (DII CIAA)
16. Lenoir Rhyne (DII South Atlantic)
17. Livingstone (DII CIAA)
18. Louisburg (JC)
19. Mars Hill (DII South Atlantic)
20. Methodist (DIII USA South)
21. North Carolina (DI ACC)
22. NC A&T (DIAA MEAC)
23. NC Central (was DII CIAA, now Independent)
24. NC State (DI ACC)
25. NC Wesleyan (DIII USA South)
26. Saint Augustine (DII CIAA)
27. Shaw (DII CIAA)
28. UNC-Pembroke (Peach Belt is DII, but not sure who else has football)
29. Wake Forest (DI ACC)
30. Western Carolina (DIAA Southern)
31. Wingate (DII South Atlantic)
32. Winston-Salem State (DIAA MEAC)

I also hear High Point and UNCG in the football talk.  If HPU starts giving scholarships for Big South play, the talent funnel gets even tighter in Guilford County, where there are already three football playing schools.  In the Metro area, there are already six:  Elon, Greensboro, Guilford, NC A&T, Wake Forest and Winston-Salem State.   

I was thinking about this for Virginia over the weekend. I started in the Hampton Roads area and then thought about Richmond and then figured, why not put the entire state list together. I'll put it on my to do list. The reason I was even thinking about it had to do with my old high school......which can now boost that it has 2 former players as college head coaches....Jerry Holmes at Hampton and Mike London at Richmond. I remember watching London play in high school and I remember watching Holmes play...well...on TV for the Jets.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 02, 2008, 03:29:39 PM
D3Newbie,
We are here waiting for this season to kickoff.  We are one behind in the series now so this is a huge week.

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 02, 2008, 04:24:25 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 26, 2008, 10:36:29 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 25, 2008, 11:43:47 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quote from: Ryan Tipps on Yesterday at 08:22:25 pm
Quote from: GCGullett on Yesterday at 11:00:12 am
is there going to be a pickem this year?


I hope there will be, but I can't run it this year. Too much going on with my ATR column to run the numbers for a pick-em contest.

I hope someone will accept the duties.


I vote for CNU85



HAHAHA. I wish I could find the time. My fear is I would start out ok, and then something would come up with work or family that would let you guys down. Then the fun would be gone. Heck, last year I didn't have time to turn in  my picks every week.  And now this year, I've joined a second fantasy league. I've been so busy this year I haven't played golf since May!!!!!!! That's a crime!

Been traveling and haven't had time to dig through all the posts. Has anyone stepped up to the plate for this yet. We need someone like CNU85, Hasanova, or Narch that has experience with booking the odds.

Ryan, are you sure you won't reconsider. Your wife won't mind you doing this while tending to the kids after midnight.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 02, 2008, 08:33:11 PM
Quote from: njlincolnlion on September 02, 2008, 01:19:19 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 01, 2008, 11:13:28 PM
Quote from: narch on September 01, 2008, 09:11:18 PM
with over 30 football playing schools in NC
23. NC Central (was DII CIAA, now Independent)  

hasanova:

N.C. Central is now DI and seeking admission into the MEAC.
Hey, njlincolnlion.  I had heard that was what NC Central was doing (as had WSSU earlier), but wasn't sure if it was a done deal for the Eagles.  Thanks for the confirmation.  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 02, 2008, 08:38:41 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 02, 2008, 02:59:29 PM
I was thinking about this for Virginia over the weekend. I started in the Hampton Roads area and then thought about Richmond and then figured, why not put the entire state list together. I'll put it on my to do list. The reason I was even thinking about it had to do with my old high school......which can now boost that it has 2 former players as college head coaches....Jerry Holmes at Hampton and Mike London at Richmond. I remember watching London play in high school and I remember watching Holmes play...well...on TV for the Jets.
As a native Virginian (and football fan, in general lol), I look forward to seeing your list.  I could make a stab at it, but I bet I'd miss more than a few!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 02, 2008, 09:19:55 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 02, 2008, 04:24:25 PM
Been traveling and haven't had time to dig through all the posts. Has anyone stepped up to the plate for this yet. We need someone like CNU85, Hasanova, or Narch that has experience with booking the odds.

Ryan, are you sure you won't reconsider. Your wife won't mind you doing this while tending to the kids after midnight.

Sorry, but even though it was lots of fun and a nice challenge for myself to pick the spreads, I really can't do it this year. Even prior to last season, I was thinking of passing it from my shoulders, and this year, my duties for D3Football have grown. Time is just too tight, and I'd rather decidate more to putting out a good column and doing other stuff for the site.

I certainly hope someone takes it on, especially since there's no ODAC pick-em either this year. A double whammy to us here in Va. and N.C. :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 02, 2008, 10:25:06 PM
Kickerdad,
I sent you a private message about this weekend's game. "The Hanna Bowl"  ;D


85,
You know Stone Station isn't bulletproof but we are always waterproof. The Stagg Bowl taught you about that one.

Confucius say: Man who have much liquid inside the body, never notices liquid falling outside the body!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 03, 2008, 09:19:46 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on September 02, 2008, 10:25:06 PM
Kickerdad,
I sent you a private message about this weekend's game. "The Hanna Bowl"  ;D


85,
You know Stone Station isn't bulletproof but we are always waterproof. The Stagg Bowl taught you about that one.

Confucius say: Man who have much liquid inside the body, never notices liquid falling outside the body!

Got it and replied. Hope you got it. My Outbox claims there is nothing sent.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 03, 2008, 10:30:20 AM
You have to hit the checkbox before you send in order to save something in your outbox.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 03, 2008, 10:39:18 AM
Narch,

I am lucky to have landed in such a good program with the talent at the QB position. I started coming over in the spring to work with our QB's. The starter committed to NC State this summer despite my constant MU sermons. We also have three other QB's in our program that will continue the tradition of college play, even though a couple of them might play a different position at the next level. Hopefully I can help some of our talent see the benefits of playing for a small, local school instead of sitting the bench somewhere bigger. The starting QB from my last HS went to MU, but he only lasted a week before he gave it up. Coach E still won't talk to me because of it.  :D Now I have to make it up somehow.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 03, 2008, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on September 02, 2008, 10:25:06 PM
Kickerdad,
I sent you a private message about this weekend's game. "The Hanna Bowl"  ;D


85,
You know Stone Station isn't bulletproof but we are always waterproof. The Stagg Bowl taught you about that one.

Confucius say: Man who have much liquid inside the body, never notices liquid falling outside the body!

That was funny! I remember, after having much liquid inside the body, having some good conversations with that Confucius guy in Salem! He had good things to say!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 03, 2008, 10:57:22 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 03, 2008, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on September 02, 2008, 10:25:06 PM
Kickerdad,
I sent you a private message about this weekend's game. "The Hanna Bowl"  ;D


85,
You know Stone Station isn't bulletproof but we are always waterproof. The Stagg Bowl taught you about that one.

Confucius say: Man who have much liquid inside the body, never notices liquid falling outside the body!

That was funny! I remember, after having much liquid inside the body, having some good conversations with that Confucius guy in Salem! He had good things to say!  :D

Was it Confucius or Confused? Or maybe both?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 03, 2008, 11:02:56 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 03, 2008, 10:30:20 AM
You have to hit the checkbox before you send in order to save something in your outbox.

Thanks. I finally opened my eyes and saw what you are referring to. My bust.

Pat, being you are referred to as the "Guru Master" of all things. Do you think you can have a talk with "Mother Nature" and get her to keep Hanna out of the area an additional 24 hours this weekend, so we can have some good football weather? I see lots of facilities (fields) getting tore up and ruined the first week, if this gal has her way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 04, 2008, 11:09:31 AM
Quote from: hasanova on August 31, 2008, 12:16:29 PM
Look me up Saturday night at Guilford and say hello.   Not sure where you live, but the Greensboro News & Record is reviewing both Guilford and Greensboro in Friday's (9/5) edition ...  just in time for the Soup(er) Bowl the next night.  Even if you're not in town, I think you could read it in their online edition.
The paper said they were running on Friday, but the previews on the Pride and the Quakers are actually in today's (9/4) edition.  As you would expect, they featured Lowe and Vogelbach.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2008, 11:50:00 AM
Hey Ryan Tipps,

Nice piece you wrote in ATR. I have one question, though. What's in the bottle on the bar behind your left shoulder in the picture? What - did you start tailgating in February, too?



;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 04, 2008, 12:11:41 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 04, 2008, 11:50:00 AM
Hey Ryan Tipps,

Nice piece you wrote in ATR. I have one question, though. What's in the bottle on the bar behind your left shoulder in the picture? What - did you start tailgating in February, too?



;D ;D

Man you got good eyes......good catch. Now blackmail him with this so he will do the pick-ems.

Pat Coleman - I am having problems getting the Region articles to come up. When I go to the column on the left and click Around the Regions (right below All Around the Nation) it starts to load but stops short of putting the articles in. What am I doing wrong.

Anyone else having this issue?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2008, 03:28:52 PM
The Wesley at CNU game has been "postponed". There is no word of a make up date. So, given the different bye weeks for the teams....it's cancelled.

:(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on September 04, 2008, 06:59:10 PM
Good luck to everyone in the USA South Conf. this weekend. May all of the teams have a 1-0 record after the first week of the season. Kind of sad that the CNU game is postponed, I am sure that all of the players that have been bustin their tails during camp, and the fans would have liked to been able to get the game played. Yet, safety must always come first.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 04, 2008, 09:17:05 PM
 I have a feeling that if Hanna comes up the Chesapeake or Delaware bays  that more games may be canceled.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 04, 2008, 09:26:02 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 04, 2008, 11:50:00 AM
Hey Ryan Tipps,

Nice piece you wrote in ATR. I have one question, though. What's in the bottle on the bar behind your left shoulder in the picture? What - did you start tailgating in February, too?



;D ;D

Ha, of all things, you would have to notice that, wouldn't you? My wife and I actually made a good-faith effort to make sure there wasn't anything scandalous in the background. Truth is, that's just one of about 18 bottles on my bar :)

Truth be told, my dad's side of the family is from Lynchburg, Tenn. We go back about five generations in that little town, so all that's behind me in the photo is a sip of history. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2008, 09:34:37 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 04, 2008, 09:26:02 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 04, 2008, 11:50:00 AM
Hey Ryan Tipps,

Nice piece you wrote in ATR. I have one question, though. What's in the bottle on the bar behind your left shoulder in the picture? What - did you start tailgating in February, too?



;D ;D

Ha, of all things, you would have to notice that, wouldn't you? My wife and I actually made a good-faith effort to make sure there wasn't anything scandalous in the background. Truth is, that's just one of about 18 bottles on my bar :)

Truth be told, my dad's side of the family is from Lynchburg, Tenn. We go back about five generations in that little town, so all that's behind me in the photo is a sip of history. ;)

Then your family has a nice bottling operation. Very professional looking job abck there.

Your new nickname is Ryan Tipsy!!   :D

HA - I just need some humor. I've waited all off season for a good football game and now I have to wait 3 more weeks before I see some CNU football. The campus has a noon mandatory evacuation tomorrow. Everyone's gotta leave. I think it's just gonna be a rain event. But what do I know other than watching the weather channel. We're under a TS warning now. The main thing is loss of power. It wold be a pain to have 3500 kids in dorms with no power.

Hey - where's our guy - Riki Tiki Tavi?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 04, 2008, 09:45:41 PM
CNU85

Shame the game is off....But 4 inches of rain might close some of those tunnels in that area won't it?  Losing this game only gives Wesley 5 in region games again. Maybe we can round up a game for them like last year.. Montclair St. was a late signing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2008, 09:53:14 PM
I've been here most of my life and the only time I've seen a tunnel close due to rain was when a state employee didn't close the flood gates in time and the Mid-Town tunnel in Norfolk was totally submerged. You can imagine the electrical problems that caused. The tunnel was flooded and out of service for some time. VDOT took a well deserved bashing for that.

Yeah, it really stinks there is no footall this weekend in Newport News.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 04, 2008, 10:02:22 PM
well, i am with you cnu85.  this sucks but you cant mess with mother nature.  i, like you have been waiting for jason's last season to get started and am really disappointed that the game is canceled.  lucky for me, i only have to wait 7 days for what should be a good game with delval.  good luck this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 04, 2008, 10:03:01 PM
Narch, sorry it took so long to get back with ya (preparing for hurricane deployments has kept me busy this week).  Next week should be good for me (depending on hannah and ike).  At least I didn't get another government sponsored trip to New Orleans this year like I did 3 years ago.  Give me a shout when you get in the area, 22 north/jerry allens/lagerheads sounds good.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 04, 2008, 10:15:35 PM
CNU85

I think we may have been in Newport News that weekend when that happened. My aunt lived on Woodroof rd right up the street from CNU and we made it down there 5 straight years for games at NNA and in N.C
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 05, 2008, 11:33:36 AM
The HSC/NCWC game has been moved back 24 hours to Sunday at 1 p.m.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 05, 2008, 01:38:06 PM
The Methodist game has been moved to 3pm.

Narch - what's the mindset behind that? Are they thinking the storm will have passed by then? What about power failure?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 05, 2008, 02:35:28 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 04, 2008, 09:53:14 PM
I've been here most of my life and the only time I've seen a tunnel close due to rain was when a state employee didn't close the flood gates in time and the Mid-Town tunnel in Norfolk was totally submerged. You can imagine the electrical problems that caused. The tunnel was flooded and out of service for some time. VDOT took a well deserved bashing for that.

Yeah, it really stinks there is no footall this weekend in Newport News.

When the shipyard shuts down you know things are a little tense.  For Isabel they shut down 2-3 days ahead.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 05, 2008, 05:34:33 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 05, 2008, 01:38:06 PM
The Methodist game has been moved to 3pm.

Narch - what's the mindset behind that? Are they thinking the storm will have passed by then? What about power failure?

All you guys near the coast keep your heads down and be safe this weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 05, 2008, 07:47:06 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 05, 2008, 01:38:06 PM
The Methodist game has been moved to 3pm.

Narch - what's the mindset behind that? Are they thinking the storm will have passed by then? What about power failure?
i think you're spot on...who knows what will happen from a power standpoint...the really high winds are expected east of I-95...I'm just stoked the game is being played

the monarchs have a new website (http://mumonarchs.com/index.aspx)...i like it a lot

and i was sent this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBfLq_GzuZA) from the mu pep rally today...gotta love coach sy!
Title: Lights out!
Post by: hasanova on September 05, 2008, 11:31:02 PM
Talk about power failures ... Davie County (NC) HS was supposed to play a key football game at Thomasville (NC) HS tonight, but when the ground crew went to turn on the lights, they discoved a thief had broken into the box and stolen all the copper wires in the lighting system.  They say it'll be rewired in time for a Monday night start, but this is a sign of the economic (and moral) times.  Think of all the time, money and gasoline spent by the teams and fans to travel and prepare.

Maybe all stadium crews better check the lights, clocks and scoreboards before game time!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 12:22:57 AM
A few 30 cent, strategically placed, bullets will deter thieves!!


Hey - looks like CNU admin made a good decision. The most recent weather track puts the exact center of Hanna riht over Newport News at about the time kickoff was to take place!

I've got a few books loaded in my digital reader...time to stay in and read. I'll pop open a beer at noon. I might even text Llamaguy and see how wet it is at Averett.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 12:28:27 AM
Quote from: narch on September 05, 2008, 07:47:06 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 05, 2008, 01:38:06 PM
The Methodist game has been moved to 3pm.

Narch - what's the mindset behind that? Are they thinking the storm will have passed by then? What about power failure?
i think you're spot on...who knows what will happen from a power standpoint...the really high winds are expected east of I-95...I'm just stoked the game is being played

the monarchs have a new website (http://mumonarchs.com/index.aspx)...i like it a lot

and i was sent this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBfLq_GzuZA) from the mu pep rally today...gotta love coach sy!


Narch - I'm jealous. I don't get to watch football tomorrow. I don't get to see CNU play until 10/27. I was thinking about going to Salisbury on the 20th - but I will be in Chicago and Green Bay that weekend. OH - and talk about missing football. I have to go to Green Bay on the day they play the Cowboys in a night game and I didn't know it until after my business plans were made.....so i get into GB right at game time. I'll be the only guy in the streets!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 06, 2008, 08:00:16 AM
Rain hasn't started falling too hard yet around my place. I'm sure it'll get worse.

I'm hoping to brave the weather to take in two games today. I'm going to swing by for the Ferrum and Emory & Henry matchup en route to the Greensboro and Guilford Souper Bowl.

Looking forward to seeing how these teams handle the muck! I just hope everyone stays injury-free amid it all :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 08:37:44 AM
Ryan,

I think you will be ok. I'm looking at the weather right now. By game time out in that part of the world, Hanna will be long gone. I think it is going faster than they expected. It's not raining right now. We're getting a break between bands.

The break made me think for just a few brief moments about jumping in my Jeep and driving to Danville to get hooked up with Stone Station. I could get there just before kickoff. It looks like the rain will stop by kickoff. However, common sense took over when I realized I would have to drive riht through the eye of Hanna to get there.

Maybe I'll check the schedule for 7pm games and see how many are within a few hours drive. There's always the NCW game tomorrow......but nah...sunday belongs to the NFL and fantasy leagues.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 06, 2008, 09:03:16 AM
I know Papi is out there risking his a&& for the morons who will not heed the weather warnings. Stay safe out there young PO1.

I imagine there will be cancellations this weekend. Hope everyone trys to stay dry. I of course will.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 09:59:21 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 06, 2008, 09:03:16 AM
I know Papi is out there risking his a&& for the morons who will not heed the weather warnings. Stay safe out there young PO1.

I imagine there will be cancellations this weekend. Hope everyone trys to stay dry. I of course will.  ;)

Ditto. Yesterday the weather channel had a picture of a USCG small boat from NC out in some nasty waves (nasty for me....fun for Papi). I wondered if Papi was in that pic. A prayer that he is safe has been made.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 11:21:06 AM
Well, It's almost 11:30 and here comes Hanna. The center isn't too far away from here. So far it's been a little windy and some rain. Looks like the nasty stuff is just across the river headed this way in a few minutes. Everyone lucky enough to see a game, keep those of us with withdrawal pains posted on your game. Anyone traveling - be safe.

I see the rain is over in Danville and down towards the Methodist game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on September 06, 2008, 02:07:38 PM
Maryville 14 Huntingdon 7     Late second quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 02:17:48 PM
Emory and Henry 13
Ferrum7
Halftime


Panthers have missed 1 FG, and been in the red zone twice!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 02:27:44 PM
Allen C,

Were the two trips to the d zone the TD amd missed FG? Or do they have the TD, missed FG, AND two trips in the red zone with no points? IF the latter, what happened? Turnover, Downs, Half?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 06, 2008, 02:32:18 PM
14-14 Maryville vs. Huntington Halftime
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 02:36:22 PM
I am not really sure as the broadcast started late...due to techical difficulties,(I think the two guys broadcasting are rookies) but it seems that the Panthers opened with the ball, and the drive stalled, punted, and then stopped E&H forcing them to punt. FC then drove down and was stopped in the Red zone, and missed a makable FG. Kicked a line drive wide left.
E& H went down and scored, then FC answered with a drive starting from their own 8, and scored. Mike Vann had a huge run on that series.

I lost the broadcast after that , but picked it back up with < 2 mins left in the half. 13-7 at that point.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 02:38:00 PM
What exactly is the Karma points on this board?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 06, 2008, 02:41:12 PM
E&H started the second half at Ferrum's 30. They turned it over on downs at the 28. BIG effort by the Panther D!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 02:42:23 PM
Allen,

thanks...Keep us posted on scores.

Karma=head games. don't worry about them. It's similar to passing a note to a girl in third grade....

check the box...applaud if you like me
smite if you think i have cooties
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 02:48:10 PM
Ferrum seems to be alternating quarterbacks Dobson and  Marcus Mayo.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 06, 2008, 02:50:38 PM
I think Mayo has been in only about two series. He stepped in during the 2nd qtr after Dobson coughed up the ball on a sneak.

On another note: An absolute ton of penalties by both teams....

E&H just scored on a Ferrum fumble. 19-7. PAT hasn't yet been attempted
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 02:52:33 PM
E&H TD fumble recovery, Mike Vann is hurt
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 02:53:24 PM
Vann walks off field
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 02:54:35 PM
XP no good
E& H 19
FC 7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 06, 2008, 03:17:45 PM
28-21 Huntington middle of 3rd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 03:20:02 PM
E&H is about to score...There have been a ridiculous amount of penalties and turnovers for FC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 03:24:32 PM
E&H TD @7 mins left in 4th 

E&H 26
FC 7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 03:26:16 PM
conference is not doing too well today
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 06, 2008, 03:29:10 PM
35-28 Huntington 3 minutes left in the 3rd...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 06, 2008, 03:31:42 PM
yeah not the best showing by the conference.

Penalties are killing the scots right now.  I believe they just gave a stat on the broadcast 11 penalties for 101 yards... ouch.  By listening to the broadcast, sounds like Maryville is the better team, but mistakes hurt.  The thing is a lot of their penalties are resulting in 1st downs which is big Huntington.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 03:32:35 PM
FC TD Mike Vann long TD run!

XP good 26-14 E&H  5:22 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on September 06, 2008, 03:36:40 PM
Maryville 28 Huntingdon 35  Start of Fourth Quarter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 06, 2008, 03:43:58 PM
Feed me data. The line here at Al Taqaddum Iraq will end soon. Narch what be happening damn it
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 03:44:29 PM
FC 1st and 10 with 2:06 FC TD 26-21 1:53
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 03:45:50 PM
On side kick recovered by E&H
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on September 06, 2008, 03:50:39 PM
Maryville 28 Huntingdon 41 Fourth Quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 03:51:14 PM
FC has the ball with 14.3 seconds

1st an ten
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 03:52:38 PM
:04 left, penalty on FC

Last play Hail Mary Coming!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 06, 2008, 03:54:01 PM
Ball Game- Pass caught, but not close to a TD

Final E&H 26
FC 21

Oh well maybe next week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 06, 2008, 03:55:30 PM
41-28 Huntington 12:30 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 06, 2008, 04:25:40 PM
41-35 Huntington 1:34 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 06, 2008, 04:29:35 PM
41-35 Huntington wins... sloppy game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 06, 2008, 05:39:50 PM
ABN...it wasn't too bad this time...did make for some fun playing in the inlet on Friday!

Any news on the Monarch Game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 06, 2008, 09:46:53 PM
the best thing about hannah coming through is that it postponed my daughters pop-warner cheerleading debut until sunday and allowed me to see the monarchs in action :)

i saw some things i liked about mu in a 32-21 win today - first, mirales had a really nice day kicking the ball with 4 fg's...2 from 40+...and really good ko's (can you believe it, i opened up talking about a kicker :)) - second, mcguire ran HARD today...that kid is a little bowling ball - i thought we'd see more of harrison, but he got just one carry - teague is going to be just fine at qb...maybe better than fine - the kid has all the arm you want...he had a 44 yard completion with only about 3 yards of rac that was right on the money and he threw a couple other deep balls that were in the air 50 yards or more - he throws a really nice ball, but needs to put a little more "touch" on it - he's a really good runner, too - i think he could shock some folks when the coaching staff takes the cork off the offense and opens things up - the crowd was great (nowhere near 10,000...probably more like 2,000)...the mu fans were really into the game, especially early...and lot's of gold in the home stands for today's "gold rush" game - the pep band was AWESOME (MU will have a full marching band next year...can't wait!) - there were temporary bleachers brought in for the campbell folks, but they didn't travel nearly as well as i anticipated - they had 5,800 for their home opener and mu is only 35 miles from buies creek - they probably only brought around 600, or so fans, but they were all clad in orange...gotta love the spirit

the final score is very deceiving, and points to my only real frustration with this game - i thought the mu coaching staff played it too close to the vest - in the first half the monarchs were in the red zone 3 times and were really vanilla offensively...and they got three fg's - they opened up a little more in the second half, but it was still pretty conservative - i also thought the mu players/staff let up a little after going up 32-7...they went to a 3 man front with no blitzing and everyone sitting back in zones...and gave up a lot of yardage and 14 points - it's not the most sportsmanlike thing to say, but i wanted a "statement game" from the monarchs...41-10 or something like that would have sent a strong message to fans, media, high school coaches and recruits in the cape fear region - while the game was not as close as the 32-21 score and box score would say (cu got over 1/3 of it's yardage after going down 32-7), the campbell folks will be able to spin this off as a moral victory for a first year program - i really think if the monarchs had put the pedal to the metal, it could have been a blowout

i hope this is a game that will happen EVERY year - it's a natural rivalry from a geographic standpoint - many students are choosing between mu and cu when they are looking at schools - the proximity will mean good attendance numbers at both institutions - i think it's a great rivalry in the making and i hope it continues for a number of years

game story and box score (http://www.mumonarchs.com/news/2008/9/6/FB_0906082835.aspx)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 09:58:22 PM
Narch,

Thanks for the update. What's with the information blackout? The game was over hours ago and still nothing on the scoreboard or even on the MU website.

Anyway - thanks for giving us some info. You know, usually you and I are in the same ball park on most things. But I can't stop laughing at your post. I'm still trying to figure how someone will spin a loss to Methodist as a moral victory.

Maybe I'm in a humorous mood cuz I'm watching Jeff Dunham right now!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 06, 2008, 10:06:16 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 09:58:22 PM
Narch,

Thanks for the update. What's with the information blackout? The game was over hours ago and still nothing on the scoreboard or even on the MU website.
for some reason the new mu athletic site isn't linked directly from the home page, but the score was up on the new site pretty quickly....http://www.mumonarchs.com/index.aspx

Quote from: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 09:58:22 PM
Anyway - thanks for giving us some info. You know, usually you and I are in the same ball park on most things. But I can't stop laughing at your post. I'm still trying to figure how someone will spin a loss to Methodist as a moral victory.
i'll be willing to be the local newspaper will write the story as though the camels kept fighting until the end and were able to give an established program a run for their money even as a first-year program...guarantee it...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2008, 10:10:39 PM
Narch,

I forgot about the new site. I even looked at it the other day. Very nice. Old habit took me to the old site. I'll remember next time. I've been looking all day.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 07, 2008, 11:42:08 AM
New Ferrum Football Blog

http://ferrumfootball.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 07, 2008, 01:25:37 PM
CNU85,

You should have made the trip. Actually the weather in Danville was great at game time. The field was dry (it had been covered) rain stopped at arond 10:30 am and by 2 pm kickoff it was hot as sin. Congrats to the eagles they have one heck of a tight end. He looks like he is 8 foot but really he is only 6' 4". Averett gave up close to a 100 yards in penatiles today. Most of that in the first half and by the defense. Every time it looked like they were going to stop BC, they would jump offsides, or do something else stupid. Averett's offense had trouble protecting the QB and they didn't star moving good until the 4th quarter.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 07, 2008, 11:28:01 PM
Kickerdad,
  Does Florida now border Southern VA? LOL

I noticed that Averett had 39 kids on their roster from Florida. Was just wondering if there was a Florida connection or they just liked to winter in Danville?  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 08, 2008, 07:56:04 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 06, 2008, 04:29:35 PM
41-35 Huntington wins... sloppy game.

     Disappointing loss for the Fighting Scots!! BUT....only one game and not a conference game.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 08, 2008, 08:55:23 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on September 07, 2008, 11:28:01 PM
Kickerdad,
  Does Florida now border Southern VA? LOL

I noticed that Averett had 39 kids on their roster from Florida. Was just wondering if there was a Florida connection or they just liked to winter in Danville?  :)

Ever since I have been associated with Averett, they (Coaches) love to recruit out of Florida. No idea what the connection/reason - 39/40 is around the normal for Florida guys on the roster.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 08, 2008, 09:04:04 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 08, 2008, 08:55:23 AM
Quote from: Llamaguy on September 07, 2008, 11:28:01 PM
Kickerdad,
  Does Florida now border Southern VA? LOL

I noticed that Averett had 39 kids on their roster from Florida. Was just wondering if there was a Florida connection or they just liked to winter in Danville?  :)

Ever since I have been associated with Averett, they (Coaches) love to recruit out of Florida. No idea what the connection/reason - 39/40 is around the normal for Florida guys on the roster.

     Maryville back in the day recruited heavily in FL. I would say based on their roster they still do. I assume the connection/reason is there is LOTS of talent in FL and no DIII schools.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 08, 2008, 09:07:39 AM
The win column for USAS looks mighty bare. Congrats to Methodist for getting us at least 1 notch in the W column. I wonder if it would look better or worse had the CNU/Wesley game been played?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 08, 2008, 10:07:00 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 08, 2008, 09:07:39 AM
The win column for USAS looks mighty bare. Congrats to Methodist for getting us at least 1 notch in the W column. I wonder if it would look better or worse had the CNU/Wesley game been played?
Well, Wesley was clearly favored, but you never know ... CNU has a good team and plays well at home.  My guess, however, is it would have been worse.   :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 09, 2008, 08:01:31 PM
papi - i talked to some folks you know a little bit tonight :)

i'll give you a buzz soon...heading out to the chanel marker right now
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 09, 2008, 09:51:41 PM
If you are going to the Channel Marker you'll probably run into some more folks that know me more than a little bit  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2008, 09:53:56 PM
Just great! No CNU game last Saturday. They don't play this weekend. Then they hit the road for two games with the closest game the same weekend I'm in Chicago and Green Bay. The next home game is October 11. Oh wait - that's the weekend I'll be at a mandatory strategy "thing" for work....coupled with a UVA game! I better break out my izod sweater vest and brush up on my wine knowledge as I prepare to tailgate with some guy named Buffy.  :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2008, 09:54:52 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 09, 2008, 09:51:41 PM
If you are going to the Channel Marker you'll probably run into some more folks that know me more than a little bit  ;)

I bet you can't remember her name!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on September 09, 2008, 11:37:38 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2008, 09:53:56 PM
Just great! No CNU game last Saturday. They don't play this weekend. Then they hit the road for two games with the closest game the same weekend I'm in Chicago and Green Bay. The next home game is October 11. Oh wait - that's the weekend I'll be at a mandatory strategy "thing" for work....coupled with a UVA game! I better break out my izod sweater vest and brush up on my wine knowledge as I prepare to tailgate with some guy named Buffy.  :-\

That is funny 85! There weren't too many wine and cheese tailgaters from USC when I was there 2 weeks ago. Hit me up as I will be at the UVA vs. ECU game as well. Not tailgating though. I'll have 2 twelve-year-old UVA fans in tow.  ;)
Title: Methodist at Guilford ...
Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2008, 12:15:02 AM
narch - What's your take on the Monarchs and the Quakers this Saturday night?  Hope you make the trip and, if you do, make sure you say hello.  I can send you a PM of where I'll be.  Congratulations, by the way, on last weekend's win over the Camels!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 10, 2008, 12:30:43 AM
papi...i have five letters for you...the bt...interesting experience...'nuff said

'nova - i think the monarch defense will be tested big time - when the db's played up on the campbell wr's, i liked what i saw...bartee and co. are every bit as athletic and physical as the gcq wr's will be (maybe more so), but i'm not sure the monarch coaches have enough confidence to leave them out there one-on-one - if mu can get in vogelbach's face and force him to move around and rush his throws, i like the monarchs chances - if they sit back in zones, vogelbach will pick them apart - i think it will be much like the game last year...whoever has the ball last wins

and i won't be making the trip...i'm going to be in papi's neck of the woods through the weekend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 10, 2008, 08:21:44 AM
Fond memories of BT's...wait...no...I don't think I've ever remembered a night that I spent in BT's!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2008, 10:29:46 AM
Quote from: narch on September 10, 2008, 12:30:43 AM
'nova - i think the monarch defense will be tested big time - when the db's played up on the campbell wr's, i liked what i saw...bartee and co. are every bit as athletic and physical as the gcq wr's will be (maybe more so), but i'm not sure the monarch coaches have enough confidence to leave them out there one-on-one - if mu can get in vogelbach's face and force him to move around and rush his throws, i like the monarchs chances - if they sit back in zones, vogelbach will pick them apart - i think it will be much like the game last year...whoever has the ball last wins

and i won't be making the trip...i'm going to be in papi's neck of the woods through the weekend
Hey, narch, I think you're right.  I was at last year's game in Fayetteville ... 50-47 was it?  We didn't have Hagen Miller (103 catches in 2007) last weekend for the Greensboro game, so I hope he'll be back against MU.  Even on a "off night", Vogelbach was 30 of 40 for 340 yards and two TDs.  He was picked off 4 times, but three were tipped.  He'll get his numbers, but I'm encouraged we had 116 net yards on the ground ... that forces the Defense to play the run as well.  Sorry you won't be there, but enjoy your trip.  Guilford has an internet audio (and I think video) feed for the game as well as a phone line you can listen in.  Just follow the links at www.guilford.edu.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 12, 2008, 07:32:32 PM
I'm down at Maryville, taking in my first game ever in Tennessee. Looking forward to seeing the Scots bounce back from a tough loss last week.

I see a good possibility for the conference to win three of the games this weekend. We'll see....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 12, 2008, 08:19:42 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 12, 2008, 07:32:32 PM
I'm down at Maryville, taking in my first game ever in Tennessee. Looking forward to seeing the Scots bounce back from a tough loss last week.

I see a good possibility for the conference to win three of the games this weekend. We'll see....

     Go Tipps....Go Scots!! As last year, this is a big game for the Scots. Obviously, not a conference game but IMO, a huge game that will set the tone for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 13, 2008, 12:37:02 AM
Narch....22 North....dang I love the scenery down here...don't you???  One of these days we're gonna get ABN down here for a drink or 12!!!

Good Luck to the Monarchs tomorrow...show them "fighting quakers" (oxymoron) a good 'fight'!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 13, 2008, 02:02:57 PM
Four total turnovers in just the first quarter here in Tenn. -- 2 each for Maryville and Centre.

Scots find the zone just before the quarter drains and it's 7-0.

Hightower was hurt. He walked off the field, but I don't know if it's serious.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 13, 2008, 02:23:34 PM
Ferrum20
So. Va 0

Halftime
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 13, 2008, 02:34:28 PM
Quote from: Allen C on September 13, 2008, 02:23:34 PM
Ferrum20
So. Va 0

Halftime

Sweet!!

Still 7-0 here at Maryville.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 13, 2008, 02:49:49 PM
CNU vs. Salisbury
166 hours and 11 minutes to go.

Man I miss football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 03:24:55 PM
need more scores.

Shenandoah beat Bridgewater for first time in history 10-6.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 13, 2008, 03:27:33 PM
It's 14-7 with Maryville on top here in Tennesseeland.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 13, 2008, 03:28:57 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 13, 2008, 12:37:02 AM
Narch....22 North....dang I love the scenery down here...don't you???  One of these days we're gonna get ABN down here for a drink or 12!!!

Good Luck to the Monarchs tomorrow...show them "fighting quakers" (oxymoron) a good 'fight'!!!
GC has never been the Fighting Quakers, so the myth continues.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 13, 2008, 03:31:09 PM
Centre picks up a fumble and ties the game two plays later......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 03:32:58 PM
Ryan,

In case you can't keep up.....interesting score...DelVal just scored 17 straight...ead Wesley 17-16.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 13, 2008, 03:42:48 PM
WHOOOOEEEEEEEEE  !!!!!!!


GREENSBORO      14
EMORY & HENRY  12

FINAL


Pardon me for celebrating . . . . WOW - way to go PRIDE!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 03:44:28 PM
WOW. Conference is 2-0 against ODAC today!

Way to go Pride!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 03:47:31 PM
NCW drops one to Widener 7-6
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 13, 2008, 03:55:20 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 03:32:58 PM
Ryan,

In case you can't keep up.....interesting score...DelVal just scored 17 straight...ead Wesley 17-16.

Been kinda seeing that out of the corner of my eye. Interesting stuff! A lot of shaking going on.

Centre ties up the game at 17 with a field goal. Maryville's ball with 6:49 left in the game.

Re: Greensboro, that is a big WOW moment. This was the opening of E&H's new stadium and lots of hoopla going on there. WOW, again!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 03:56:37 PM
DelVal 4th and goal from the one.....15 seconds in game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 13, 2008, 03:58:19 PM
(deep breath)  :o

OK - Pride actually had a running game today. GC RB Beasley scored the first TD and a GC safety returned an INT for 60 yards and a TD - all in the first half.

Pride defense played fantastic with GC having bad field position all day. Two or three fumble recoveries and the INT. A lot of punts by both teams.

Pride almost gave it away at the end with an INT with a couple of minutes left, but the defense held and the Pride won.

E&H announcers said it looked like the Pride just wanted it more and that they came to play.

Is a winning streak too much to ask?  ;)




Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 03:59:07 PM
Tipps.....DelVal scores....going for 2. they're up 23-22. 10 secs left in game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 13, 2008, 04:00:23 PM
Maryville score please Ryan?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 13, 2008, 04:01:49 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on September 13, 2008, 04:00:23 PM
Maryville score please Ryan?

Sorry Ryan. Just saw your last post.  :-[
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 13, 2008, 04:02:08 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on September 13, 2008, 04:00:23 PM
Maryville score please Ryan?

Tied at 17 with 1:40 left in the game. Maryville has the ball at Centre's 10ish yard line.

Also check the Daily Dose....I've been posting a lot more play-by-play stuff there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 13, 2008, 04:05:57 PM
Maryville nails a field goal to take the lead! 0:02 left in the game. Allsky is a happy man, today, I am sure!

edit: MARYVILLE WINS! Final.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 04:11:21 PM
Tipps....head over to the ACFC board. Ski is keeping us up to date on the Wesley game.

Good job Maryville....another win for the conference  today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SU97 on September 13, 2008, 08:15:30 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 03:24:55 PM
need more scores.

Shenandoah beat Bridgewater for first time in history 10-6.

It's only been like 76 years since the last time SU beat the eagles....  what's the big deal CNU85???   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 13, 2008, 09:13:31 PM
 :D :D

I love it! Last week the conference looked pretty weak. Things are looking much better today.

Congrats to SU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 13, 2008, 10:23:21 PM
looks like the monarchs fell 34-33 tonight...can't wait to get the scoop...

just read the box score (http://www.guilford.edu/sports/Football/2008/HTML/gc-02.htm#GAME.PLY)...looks like the monarchs squandered some chances to win, failing to convert 3 xp's in a one point game...tough loss, i'm sure...vogelbach had his usual ho-hum 300 yard, 3 td game against mu, but the guilford running game shocks me...if that offense can run the ball consistently, they'll be much more dangerous than they've been the last few years - teague has a nice night with 98 rushing yards and a td and another 169 and 2 td's through the air

the bishops are on the clock on the 27th...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 14, 2008, 03:24:40 AM
Narch
Sorry about your boys but it's not conference. 9-1 would be cool  huh? ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 14, 2008, 04:45:16 PM
Howdy all. I am a new member to the board. Haven't seen many Bishop fans so I decided it was time NCWC is represented. I have been pleasantly surprised at the Quarterback situation for the Bishops. I felt they needed a lot of improvement after watching the first game, especially with the running game. I think they inproved on that facet yesterday, based upon the stats. Too many turnovers at the wrong time. They are very young, but I doubt they will be push overs this year. I have been impressed with the new coach, although I did dissagree with the fourth down call yesterday. The kid at quartback looks as if he could be a lineman, but he makes good decisions and can throw the ball. I think it will be a good learning season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 14, 2008, 07:17:46 PM
Blackbird,
I was surprised to see in your post that NCW was struggling with a run game. Then I noticed that Teron Bush hasn't played. Big whoa! Did I miss something? He's still on the roster, so I assume he's still with the team.

What's the story there?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 14, 2008, 09:13:19 PM
I just wanted to send out a big congrads to the conference for a strong showing this week.  Special congrads goes out to Shenandoah and Greensboro for big wins!

Nice seeing ya this week Ryan! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 14, 2008, 09:40:06 PM
PFS,
Good to meet you in person this weekend, too! I hope to hear more from ya throught the year.


Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 14, 2008, 07:17:46 PM
Blackbird,
I was surprised to see in your post that NCW was struggling with a run game. Then I noticed that Teron Bush hasn't played. Big whoa! Did I miss something? He's still on the roster, so I assume he's still with the team.

What's the story there?

No need to respond to the above question of mine. I just got my answer: injury.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 15, 2008, 09:39:59 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 14, 2008, 09:40:06 PM
PFS,
Good to meet you in person this weekend, too! I hope to hear more from ya throught the year.


Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 14, 2008, 07:17:46 PM
Blackbird,
I was surprised to see in your post that NCW was struggling with a run game. Then I noticed that Teron Bush hasn't played. Big whoa! Did I miss something? He's still on the roster, so I assume he's still with the team.

What's the story there?

No need to respond to the above question of mine. I just got my answer: injury.

Ryan, sorry I could not get back to you, I have house guests for a few days. Yes,Teron Bush is injured, but my main concern with the running game was the inability of the offensive line to get any push off the ball. They seemed to make good corrections in this last game. They are young and have good size. I think expereience is in play right now. I look for them to improve each game.

Old Blackbird
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 16, 2008, 07:43:13 AM
Does CNU play this week? Maybe if there were a few more Saturday tropical storms, and they don't play all season, maybe Ferrum might win the conference. I will say however SU and Greensboro already have my attention.

Is SU that good, or is Bridgewater that bad?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2008, 08:38:06 AM
Story I heard was that the BC O-line didn't show up to play - at least in the last game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 16, 2008, 11:46:50 AM
CNU goes to #8 Salisbury this week.  They are looking pretty good but I think the key to the game lies in CNU's defense. If they can resurrect some of that swagger that we had when I was there it could be a big win for CNU. 97 hours 13 minutes.............
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2008, 08:00:55 PM
Ugh....this is killing me. Cancelled game in week 1 and a bye in week 2......then on the road in week 3 an 4........

At least plans have changed at work and I'll be able to see CNU play October 11th - first home game of year!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2008, 08:25:53 PM
85,
I meant to ask you if you were able to catch a game elsewhere last weekend. Did ya end up going anywhere?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 16, 2008, 08:27:28 PM
Congrats to the Pride, That was huge win this past weekend!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2008, 08:31:08 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 16, 2008, 08:25:53 PM
85,
I meant to ask you if you were able to catch a game elsewhere last weekend. Did ya end up going anywhere?

In the voice of Forest Gump...."I sat at home on my but-tox"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2008, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 16, 2008, 08:27:28 PM
Congrats to the Pride, That was huge win this past weekend!

Thanks Mosh.....If I see the word "Congrads" one more time.....thanks for knowing how to spell it properly!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 16, 2008, 08:49:25 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 16, 2008, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 16, 2008, 08:27:28 PM
Congrats to the Pride, That was huge win this past weekend!

Thanks Mosh.....If I see the word "Congrads" one more time.....thanks for knowing how to spell it properly!
I'm with you!  I actually saw "Congradulations Seniors" on the large roadside message board outside a high school.  Sigh.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2008, 08:53:09 PM
Hasa,

My son's HS graduation program this past june had wrtten across the top of the list of names..... Canadates.

No lie!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2008, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 16, 2008, 08:49:25 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 16, 2008, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 16, 2008, 08:27:28 PM
Congrats to the Pride, That was huge win this past weekend!

Thanks Mosh.....If I see the word "Congrads" one more time.....thanks for knowing how to spell it properly!
I'm with you!  I actually saw "Congradulations Seniors" on the large roadside message board outside a high school.  Sigh.

Conradulations Gratuates
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wasp mom on September 16, 2008, 09:24:26 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 16, 2008, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 16, 2008, 08:49:25 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 16, 2008, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 16, 2008, 08:27:28 PM
Congrats to the Pride, That was huge win this past weekend!

Thanks Mosh.....If I see the word "Congrads" one more time.....thanks for knowing how to spell it properly!
I'm with you!  I actually saw "Congradulations Seniors" on the large roadside message board outside a high school.  Sigh.

Conradulations Gratuates
;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 16, 2008, 10:14:10 PM
Thats the way we spelled it at Ferrum   ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 17, 2008, 09:22:49 AM
While we're on this subject for a spell (yes, pun absolutely intended!), I attended a meeting last night where the presenters used PowerPoint.  I was amazed because this presentation had obviously been used many times, yet introduced the District "Manger."  Jesus, if not the District Manager's former elementary school teachers, would be so proud!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on September 17, 2008, 09:35:10 AM
Long time reader of this site but hardly ever post. I just wanted to give a big congrats to the Greensboro College football team. The program seems to have turned the corner. This past saturday has to be the biggest win in a long time for the program. Maybe this is the year for some payback for its small long suffering fan base.

GC PRIDE

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 17, 2008, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 16, 2008, 08:53:09 PM
Hasa,

My son's HS graduation program this past june had wrtten across the top of the list of names..... Canadates.

No lie!!
I believe it!  It's funny and sad all at the same time.  On a similar note, I just saw an ad in a local paper for tutors, touting the wonderful "opportunites".  Remember, there is no "i" in team and, evidently, only one "i" in opportunities!

Canadates.  I like it.  Sounds like a great name for a Vancouver or Toronto dating service!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 17, 2008, 10:05:50 AM
Quote from: footballsouthernstyle 1 on September 17, 2008, 09:35:10 AM
Long time reader of this site but hardly ever post. I just wanted to give a big congrats to the Greensboro College football team. The program seems to have turned the corner. This past saturday has to be the biggest win in a long time for the program. Maybe this is the year for some payback for its small long suffering fan base.

GC PRIDE


I hope Greensboro has a good season as well.  I saw some bright spots when I watched the Soup Bowl to start the season.  Unless I miss the mark, I think the Pride will get win #2 this weekend against Gallaudet.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 17, 2008, 01:34:02 PM
71 hours : 26 minutes : 10 seconds
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 17, 2008, 01:45:07 PM
I feel like a crack head in need of a fix.  :o I'm predicting CNU to surprise a lot of people this weekend. Defense is gonna get after it and frustrate the seagulls.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2008, 02:30:18 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on September 17, 2008, 01:45:07 PM
I feel like a crack head in need of a fix.  :o I'm predicting CNU to surprise a lot of people this weekend. Defense is gonna get after it and frustrate the seagulls.

Just getting the game in will be surprise enough. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 19, 2008, 10:19:11 PM
Touche' Pat ! ;D

Anyone interested, this link will lead you to a $10,000.00 sportsfan prize package give away.

http://ferrumfootball.blogspot.com/

Its right under the Ferrum logo, on the right side.

Enjoy the games!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2008, 10:22:21 PM
Now that the site has more than one post I'll add it to our blogroll. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 20, 2008, 12:40:45 AM
Touche' ? I didn't know they taught french at Ferrum.

12 hours : 19 minutes

Let's Go CNU!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 04:35:54 AM
I'm not sure that they do....I think I picked that up from a Pepe' Le Pew cartoon.
;)

Thanks Pat for the addition to the blog roll.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 20, 2008, 07:18:32 AM
Hey now, French was one of my wife's majors when she was at Ferrum!!  :D

Although that was a few years ago now.....who knows what kind of "academic restructuring" may have occurred since then :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 09:17:58 AM
They probably still have French, but when I was there, us recreation majors did not need a foriegn language to graduate. I took moonshining 101  and had to learn the Southwest Virginia drawl, but that is as close as I came to a foriegn language.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:02:05 PM
its game time boys. The Captains are gonna crush the gulls of Salisbury. Good luck to everyone in the usa south today. Another prediction, Tennessee over Florida bigtime. GO VOLS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:04:29 PM
Bridgewater 3
Ferrum 0

25yd. FG 12:38 1st qtr
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:09:20 PM
cnu driving. on the seagulls 5yd line 3rd and goal on the opening drive
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:11:09 PM
Field goal blocked.....Crap Crap Crap. high snap, lets go boys.  Lets see what the defense can do
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:11:43 PM
Ferrum Fumbles, BW recovers and are driving...now inside the FC 35
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:12:58 PM
Salisbury FUMBLES....... Captains have it 1st and 10 on seagulls 39
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:14:10 PM
Ferrum intercepts Eagles pass. FC ball on own 34.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:18:56 PM
Panthers 1& 10 on BW 16
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:19:09 PM
Touchdown Captains.  matt long 12yd run.

CNU 7
Salisbury 0
3:58 to go in 1st
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:21:02 PM
FC Touchdown!!! XP Good

FC 7
BW 3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:22:12 PM
BW struggling with stopping the run. TD  was a 13 yd. run by Patterson
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:25:39 PM
Ferrum Kickoff team is not stopping the returm...Good Field Position for BW after both Kickoffs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:26:51 PM
1st quarter down. Cnu still leading 7-0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 20, 2008, 01:27:29 PM
After 1 Qtr CNU 7 Salisbury 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:27:48 PM
BW punt- FC ball on their own 1 yd. line.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:28:57 PM
End of 1st.

FC 7

BW 3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:33:46 PM
CNU punts from its own endzone. booming punt but out punts coverage, seagulls return it to 20 yd line. Come on Defense
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:34:41 PM
Fumble..Fumble........CNU has it..YES YES YES.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:36:48 PM
Ferrum Defense seems to be stopping BW.

FC Ball. own 16
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:39:05 PM
Damn, i go to the bathroom and salisbury ties it up....what happen
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 20, 2008, 01:41:44 PM
Lets Go Captains!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:45:11 PM
Two series with Mayo at QB yeilded nothing for FC

Dobson is back in, and its 1st and goal
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:47:43 PM
Now 3rd and goal

FC Touchdown  Dobson keeps
XP Good!

FC 14
BW 3    4:51 left in 1st half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:48:33 PM
cnu defense standing strong today....lets go boys
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:49:09 PM
Big 4th down stop for the D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:50:01 PM
Finally good KO coverage. 1st and 10 at BW 14.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:50:14 PM
freshmen Keith gaines in a quarter back, dont know why.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:54:54 PM
CNU goes for it on 4th down and throws incomplete. 26 sec left in the half. salisbury has the ball at mid field
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:57:39 PM
salisbury throws deep and completes it on 15yd line. 6 secs left in half. DEFENSE DEFENSE
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 01:58:08 PM
Ferrum moving the ball with 1:21 to go in half. Ball on BW 43
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 02:00:18 PM
32yd field goal attempt is good. damn it.

CNU 7
Salisbury 10

The 4th down play blows up in our face
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 02:01:19 PM
FC ball on BW 34...3rd & short
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 02:02:04 PM
FC Scores...Patterson 34 yd. run...xp good

FC 21

BW 3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 02:06:22 PM
BW throws bomb, and completes it at FC 9 1t and Goal :23 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 02:09:40 PM
BW 36 yd. field goal w/ :06 left is good!

FC 21
BW 6

End of Half
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 20, 2008, 02:18:55 PM
Halftime:

Averett 14  Guilford 10
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 02:29:38 PM
opening drive of the 2nd half salisbury scores.

cnu 7
salisbury 17
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 02:32:20 PM
Cnu already near midfield...long run by tunde
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 02:33:27 PM
BW kicks on side kick to start the second half, recovers it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 02:35:40 PM
65 yd TD pass by BW. They came out fired up!

Fake kick, and 2 pts. is good!

FC 21

BW 14





Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 02:37:37 PM
lost my feed  >:( >:(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 02:53:10 PM
Ferrum Offense is struggling under Mayo, but seems to be better under Dobson.

BW ball and moving...1st and 10 at FC 35
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 20, 2008, 02:57:23 PM
7:22 left 3rd Quarter

Averett 24  Guilford 10
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 02:58:34 PM
Dobson back in, and Ferrum O is moving the ball.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 02:59:33 PM
Quote from: Leatherhelmet on September 20, 2008, 02:57:23 PM
7:22 left 3rd Quarter

Averett 24  Guilford 10

Wow! Is this a shocker or what???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wasper68 on September 20, 2008, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 02:59:33 PM
Quote from: Leatherhelmet on September 20, 2008, 02:57:23 PM
7:22 left 3rd Quarter

Averett 24  Guilford 10

Wow! Is this a shocker or what???

yeah...is Vogelbach playing?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 03:04:39 PM
Another long bomb, 1st and 10 BW ball at FC 30
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 03:11:51 PM
Ferrum has ball and is burning the clock with the ground game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 03:12:29 PM
WOW, internet went down and i come back and its Cnu 7 salisbury 31.
Now its CNU 14 Salisbury 31.

Salisbury scored and made it 24-7 then CNU had the ball and matt long threw an interception for a touchdown making it 31-7. Captains got the ball back with the freshmen gaines at the helm, they drove down the field and scored.

Captains just kicked an onside kick and recovered the ball.....Still a chance
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 20, 2008, 03:14:35 PM
31-10 Averett 2:51 left 3rd quarter.

Vogelbach is playing.  Hard to get a feel over the radio, but Guilford is moving the ball but not scoring.  Sounds like alot of dropped passes and the Cougar defense has sacked/pressured Vogelbach quite a bit.  Averett's offense has been clicking the 2nd half.

Guilford has the ball around midfield.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 03:15:08 PM
CNU driving, no huddle. 2nd and goal.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 03:15:49 PM
4th and goal on the 1 yard line.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 03:17:14 PM
CNU scores on the QB keeper.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 03:17:49 PM
CNU 21
salisbury 31
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 03:18:45 PM
BW moving the ball at FC 26
6:54 left in game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 03:19:22 PM
tried another onside but salisbury recovers
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wasper68 on September 20, 2008, 03:19:45 PM
Quote from: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 03:18:45 PM
BW moving the ball at FC 26
6:54 left in game

what's the score?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 03:20:54 PM
DAMN.....Salisbury scores on first play, qb runs it in from midfield

CNU 21
Salisbury 38
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 03:21:46 PM
BW is taking advantage of the FC secondary. 2nd and 10 at FC 12

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 20, 2008, 03:21:59 PM
Gulford scores.  31-17 Averett, 14:50 left in the game.

Averett ball on the AU 45.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 03:23:39 PM
BC trying a FG 29 yds.

NO Good!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 03:26:57 PM
3:36 left in the game, Ferrum 3rd and @ 15 fairly deep in their own territory.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 03:33:01 PM
3mins left salisbury has the ball. still:
cnu 21
salisbury 38
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 03:38:21 PM
FC 21
BC 14

BC Ball at their own 4  :34 secs. left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 03:38:56 PM
FC ball on downs...should take a knee.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 03:39:27 PM
Final

FC 21

BC 14
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 20, 2008, 03:49:59 PM
1:44 to go. Vogelbach throws his first td pass of the game.

Averett 31  Guilford 24.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 20, 2008, 04:02:05 PM
Garcia for AU picks off Vogelbach near midfield with 15 seconds left.

Game over. Averett wins 31-24.  Congrats Cougars on the W. Breaks a long losing streak!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2008, 04:13:54 PM
Any word on other conference teams? How about Maryville?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: luvapontiac on September 20, 2008, 04:51:12 PM
CNU63...you don't have to give play by play on here...just scores  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 20, 2008, 05:26:27 PM
hey 63, You i still in the hampton roads area? If so you should listen to the game on FM 99.1. Thats what I do when Im here. Tough loss after a promising 1st half.  :-\

PS~ What did your parents think of that video?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 20, 2008, 09:19:43 PM
Quote from: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:02:05 PM
its game time boys. The Captains are gonna crush the gulls of Salisbury... Another prediction, Tennessee over Florida bigtime. GO VOLS!
how'd those perdictions work out for ya? :)

usasac had a pretty nice day, overall, though...the au/gcq score shocks me a bit
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 21, 2008, 12:23:49 AM
Quote from: cnu63 on September 20, 2008, 01:02:05 PM
its game time boys. The Captains are gonna crush the gulls of Salisbury. Good luck to everyone in the usa south today. Another prediction, Tennessee over Florida bigtime. GO VOLS!

Bad day, CNU63. I've had too many days like that. My condolences.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 21, 2008, 12:31:18 AM

Just for those that don't know . . . . .

The Greensboro Pride are 2-1 and are on a 2 game WINNING STREAK ! ! Torey Lowe scored a Pride single game record four TDs.

Hopefully we can win next Saturday night against Maryville for three straight. Isn't that some kind of record for GC?

;D   And way to go Averett!!!

Anyone know how Shenandoah and Maryville fared this weekend ?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 21, 2008, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: D3Newbie on September 21, 2008, 12:31:18 AM
Torey Lowe scored a Pride single game record four TDs.

Anyone know how Shenandoah and Maryville fared this weekend ?

Yes, great game for Torrey Lowe.  Scoreboard says Maryville lost at home to LaGrange, 38-14, and Shenandoah lost at Albright, 17-7.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 21, 2008, 12:49:13 PM
Maryville got upset 38-14 by LaGrange.

Not much I can say about the game.  Just a bad day... 

I got  a feeling we will be looking to take out a little frustration next week...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 21, 2008, 10:24:47 PM
Was unable to see NCWC - EHC, but a win is a win, we'll take it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on September 22, 2008, 08:01:53 AM
Greensboro College is 2-1 and looking much improved from years past. Maybe GC can beat Maryville this week. Defense is playing lights out. Offense is improving. Here's hoping for a little payback this week. All Pride fans who were at the game last year know what i am talking about. Come early and support the PRIDE.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 23, 2008, 08:22:08 AM
Anybody out there?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 23, 2008, 10:46:44 AM
Quote from: Old Blackbird on September 23, 2008, 08:22:08 AM
Anybody out there?

Old Blackbird,

A few folks are on the board on game day, but right now it is as dry as powder bone. We have no pick-ems to get embarrased about, fuss and complain; no interest from anyone about any of the USA teams. Personally I have paid more attention to the ODAC and Political Board more than this one. Don't understand, because this board use to be on fire with posters.

I am excited about Averett's win over Guilford but trying not to say a lot in fear that it will jinx them. Not sure if Averett is that much better than last year or Guilford came in thinking they could just show up and Averett would roll over and die. I will say this, Guilford threw a lot of passes as usual but Averett was able to put pressure on the QB when needed and prevent the big play as well as 3rd down conversions. Guilford looked at one time like they could run but they are too predictable with the pass.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 23, 2008, 09:24:28 PM
Kickerdad, there used to be a lot of smack talking (all in good fun of course) back in forth amongst the fans of different school it has pretty much ceased due to reasons known to some of us but I would love to see it return!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 24, 2008, 12:30:07 AM
Admiral Papi,

Back in your day you had an arm....but you were also as slow as a slug on welfare.

Hows that?

Go Pride...3-1???To much to ask???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 24, 2008, 12:49:24 PM
"Greensboro College is 2-1 and looking much improved from years past. Maybe GC can beat Maryville this week. Defense is playing lights out. Offense is improving. Here's hoping for a little payback this week. All Pride fans who were at the game last year know what i am talking about. Come early and support the PRIDE"

Southernstyle, what was the problem with last year's game except for the Pride losing last season????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 24, 2008, 03:09:17 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 23, 2008, 09:24:28 PM
Kickerdad, there used to be a lot of smack talking (all in good fun of course) back in forth amongst the fans of different school it has pretty much ceased due to reasons known to some of us but I would love to see it return!!!

AdmiralPapi,

Smack talk is good and expected as long as it is good clean fun. There are those that can dish it out but can't take it. The come back moshergc9 had for you was great and I am sure you laughed as I did. There must have been a real problem for every one becoming tight lipped.

Question for you - Did you QB at Methodist?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on September 24, 2008, 03:34:44 PM
After the GC-Maryville game last year the players had to walk through a bunch of drunks who failed to enter the game. Lot of mouthing and name calling went on. GC parents took exception to this and a fight almost broke out. Rent-A-Cop went crazy and threatened to lock some GC parents up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 24, 2008, 04:04:33 PM
Quote from: footballsouthernstyle 1 on September 24, 2008, 03:34:44 PM
After the GC-Maryville game last year the players had to walk through a bunch of drunks who failed to enter the game. Lot of mouthing and name calling went on. GC parents took exception to this and a fight almost broke out. Rent-A-Cop went crazy and threatened to lock some GC parents up.

I may be wrong and if so, feel free to correct me, but shouldn't the host school be responsible for providing proper security for both teams going to and from the field to locker room and locker room to buses? Also, as a parent I can understand GC parents going to the rescue, but a few drunks against a whole team of football players????? It would serve them right to get their behinds kicked and have to go have a few cleats pulled from their rectums or a face mask permently embedded on their forehead.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 24, 2008, 08:45:04 PM
You are right, southernstyle.  I have not heard about this problem, but there is no place for this kind of behavior and I apologize for our fans.  Those alums need to show some class and hope our officials have done something to not let it happen again.  That group of alums use to be on the other side of the stadium, but were moved by the school to outside the gate between the stadium and lockerroom.  I hope the new AD at Maryville does a better job with that group this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 24, 2008, 08:50:23 PM
Any team that plays Maryville @ Maryville, should be used to the drunken fans that don't pay to get in.  They are tailgating well before the game starts and welcome the away team with a barrage of verbal abuse. To some that just shows that they have loyal fans and I agree with that 100%, BUT the use of the N word aimed towards black players crosses the line in my opinion and that's why I'd have to say that they are, by far, the worst fans in the conference.  I'm sure not all Maryville fans are racist, but the few fans I encountered in my playing career ruined my opinion of the Maryville fanbase.  I have no doubt in my mind that the GC parents were in the right by defending their kids against those idiots.  

Let's go Captains, bounce back to beat Wilkes this week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 24, 2008, 09:04:33 PM
Mosh, give me some credit...I was faster than a slug...and you hit like a girl  ;)

Kickerdad, in a previous life I used to QB for Methodist.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 24, 2008, 10:29:05 PM
CNUalum, taunting and yelling at the players as they enter the field - I agree with your claim.  Using the N -word, I seriously doubt it because there are both white and black alums in that group.   Having a serious discussion is one thing, but calling Maryville fans racists is over the line and addresses your lack of character as well.

PS - That alumni group did not move to that location (outside the end zone between the stadium and fieldhouse) until last season - the 2007 season.  In 2007, Maryville played CNU at CNU.  In 2006, that alumni group was at the opposite end zone of the stadium when CNU visited Maryville.  The players could not possibly walk by those alums as they entered and left the stadium.   When you start making up things - you need to check out the facts first.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 24, 2008, 10:41:51 PM
Admiral Papi,

Ok Ok, I will give you some credit.  For a bo leged qb u at least got tracked down with some style. 

Lets try to divide the locker room for you..
  If rocket and you came in the same year who is the starter?


Roll Pride
Beat em Down

Is anybody from maryville voting obama??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 24, 2008, 11:20:03 PM
My senior year('06) we DID have to walk past the group that you are mentioning.  They were in the far end zone away from the locker room, the side of the field that away teams warm up.  When we entered the field, we walked down our sideline to beyond the endzone and right into the path of the alums(although they were on the other side of the fence).  So maybe you need to check your facts because we did in fact walk past these alums and they did IN FACT use the N-word more than once.  I am white, but if it bothered me that much then imagine how it felt to character guys such as Rob Rodriguez, George Jones, or Roland Hilliard.  You can say what you want about my character and that doesn't bother me, but why would I make up such a lie?  How many brownie points would I get for making up such a lie?  As soon as Captains63 reads this post I am 100% positive he will verify my story. He too was a white player on the '06 squad.  You don't have to believe it, that just shows your character, but the truth is, from that alumni group, the N word was being tossed around frequently.  Like I said, I don't believe it is the case with all Maryville fans, but a group of drunken fans(in the endzone behind the fence away from the lockerroom) were using profanities that were beyond disrespectful. 

As for if anybody from maryville voting obama...I can guarantee you the fans I am talking about aren't, but my character doens't mean anything.  I only believe in standing up for what I believe in and believing that everybody is created equal.  It's 2008(2006 at the time), but the use of such an ignorant word is disgraceful.  What a bad characteristic to have, huh?

As for the name-calling that happened with GC...was any of it the N word?  Because hopefully proudfightingscot will realize I'm not lying if more than 1 school claims to have experienced the same name calling. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 24, 2008, 11:57:40 PM
CNU9, good to see you still have that never back down spirit. I can verify your story, I was there that day as well. Its a shame some people just don't get it.

Let's Go CNU!!!
61 hours : 3 minutes 'til Wilkes
Crush the Colonels!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 25, 2008, 12:01:07 AM
Well you have bad character as well then crazylegs, for going along with a lie I made up.  The boys will get back on track this weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 25, 2008, 09:27:45 AM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on September 24, 2008, 11:20:03 PM
As for the name-calling that happened with GC...was any of it the N word?  Because hopefully proudfightingscot will realize I'm not lying if more than 1 school claims to have experienced the same name calling. 

I don't know if the 'N' word was used but last year but I do remember our Huntingdon group being told to 'Take your sorry a**es back to Alabama' as the team was headed back to the locker room after the game.
It sounds to me like something does need to be done about this group of fans before something serious happens.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 25, 2008, 09:30:19 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 24, 2008, 08:45:04 PM
You are right, southernstyle.  I have not heard about this problem, but there is no place for this kind of behavior and I apologize for our fans.  Those alums need to show some class and hope our officials have done something to not let it happen again.  That group of alums use to be on the other side of the stadium, but were moved by the school to outside the gate between the stadium and lockerroom.  I hope the new AD at Maryville does a better job with that group this year.

I have traveled to Maryville twice now when Averett played there and at no time did I witness any behavior from the Maryville faithful that was out of order. I admit they have a strong fan base and they are very vocal during the game (which is fine). The coach's wife was one of their strongest last year and that is good too. He has to feel proud that this family is right there backing him and team. However, there was never any thing said/yelled during the game or after that would have been taken as an insult. Actually, after the game, I personally had conversation with several Maryville folks and they were pleasantly nice and cordial. Actually I have never experienced any hostility at any of the USA-South games or any of the out of conference games Averett has played. Most of our out of conference games with exception of Mt. Union has been with ODAC teams. The only time I felt a little uncomfortable was at Methodist. The only reason for that was the visitors have to sit on the home side, which probably makes both sides uncomfortable. Again the folks at Methodist are warm and friendly and treated us with respect. We both fussed about the same thing and that was officating that everyone (both sides) felt needed to be consistent. By the way Papi, looking forward to coming back to your neck of the woods in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 25, 2008, 11:47:36 AM
You guys have been whining about pickems and predictions. Heres one for you.

CNU v. Wilkes...............................CNU

A good 1st half against a top 10 team. If they can work the kinks out CNU will be on top this week

Shenandoah v. Ferrum.................Shenandoah

SU's defense looks strong this year, enough to beat the panthers by a touchdown.

Greensboro v. Maryville.................Maryville

Neither team has beaten anyone of substance. Tough to call but Maryville's defense will be the biggest factor

Averett v. Washington & Lee         W & L

Averett is the only USASAC team to lose to bridgewater this year. But then again W&L isn't much better.

Methodist v. NC Wesleyan             NCW

Even without the QB from last year, NC has too much speed for Methodist to handle.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 25, 2008, 12:01:11 PM
CNU v. Wilkes...............................CNU
CNU is hungrey for a victory as well as playing time.

Shenandoah v. Ferrum.................Ferrum

Shenandoah will have to stop the option

Greensboro v. Maryville.................Maryville

Maryville only because they are at home and they are seeing red having lost 2 in a row.

Averett v. Washington & Lee         Averett

You really thing I am going against my son's team? NOT

Methodist v. NC Wesleyan             NCW

Home field advantgage is the only reason I pick NCW. This may be the upset of the day but Methodist folks won't consider it an upset.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on September 25, 2008, 12:26:47 PM
Maryville is at Greensboro

PRIDE ROLLS OVER MARYVILLE 24-7
NCW WINS
W&L WINS
FERRUM WINS
CNU WINS
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 25, 2008, 12:41:47 PM
yeah it is away this year at Greensboro

My Picks

Maryville will handle Greensboro, wins by 2 TD
CNU
Ferrum
Washington & Lee
NCW
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 25, 2008, 12:58:41 PM
Greensboro wins by 3 if they can get 75 yrds rushing.

wilkes just because

ferrum just because 14 points more wins

Averett because they beat Guilford

Methodist because NCW is young still???  But if they pulled some enough athletes from that N east coast of carolina watch out
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 25, 2008, 07:31:24 PM
Legends Rock at Maryville (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=37307)


Thanks!  Link Corrected! ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 25, 2008, 08:50:27 PM
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=37307 (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=37307)

Thanks for the link Ralph.  Actually if you follow what is linked it doesn't go anywhere b/c of the last part.  I just fixed it above.  I was at that ceremony and it was really nice tribute to Cody and the rest of the past Fighting Scots.  Cody's family was there when it was unveiled. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 25, 2008, 11:12:00 PM
I sure appreciate  the confidence many of you have for NCWC against Methodist. I will say this. they have continued to improve each week. Either way, I think it will be a close game. Turnovers may be the factor that decides the winner.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: G-manWU on September 25, 2008, 11:54:22 PM
Sorry I did not get this up sooner, but for any CNU fans heading to Northeast PA for Saturday's game at Wilkes, please fell free to leave a comment on the USAC or MAC boards, or send me a message if you need any directions in the local area to the Ralston Field Complex, or to anything else you may need to find during your time in Wilkes-Barre.

While I have not seen this year's version of the Colonels, I've worked for the program over the last 4 seasons- while they have not come out on top yet this season, they are a strong and resolute group that will be hungry for the home opener. All in all, it has the potential to be a great game, so we hope to see many of you there :) Have a safe trip and enjoy the tailgating for everyone who comes!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 26, 2008, 01:47:48 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 25, 2008, 12:58:41 PM
Greensboro wins by 3 if they can get 75 yrds rushing.


There's always hope for the rushing game, they didn't do too well last week, but they threw so much more than they tried to run.

I think they might be missing one of their starting RBs, but they do have pretty good backups.

With Lowe healthy and Cap having time to throw, they should beat Maryville. I don't know anything about M's defense, but I know the Pride's defense is really solid. That is why they have the victories they have.

Greensboro - 14
Maryville - 7

Good defenses? Or weak offenses? :-\


Roll Pride !!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 26, 2008, 01:22:29 PM
Maryville's Defense is actually pretty solid.  As long as their offense is clicking we should be just fine.

This should be a good game.  I am just excited to get into conference play.  Do you know if Greensboro streams their games on line so we can watch it?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on September 26, 2008, 01:55:53 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 25, 2008, 08:50:27 PM
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=37307 (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=37307)

Thanks for the link Ralph.  Actually if you follow what is linked it doesn't go anywhere b/c of the last part.  I just fixed it above.  I was at that ceremony and it was really nice tribute to Cody and the rest of the past Fighting Scots.  Cody's family was there when it was unveiled. 

     Very cool!! Thanks for the link. I talked with Cody for the first and only time before last years HC game. We talked about Fighting Scots football, past and present. The thing that I remember most about him was an aura of optimism and pride he had about being a part of Maryville College football. You could feel it just being in his presence. I look forward to touching the rock on October 18th. It will have a double meaning for me. 8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 27, 2008, 12:21:55 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 19, 2008, 10:22:21 PM
Now that the site has more than one post I'll add it to our blogroll. :)

Where is this blog roll located? I can't find a link for it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 27, 2008, 12:41:25 AM
http://www.d3football.com/dailydose/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2008, 11:02:13 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 24, 2008, 10:41:51 PMLets try to divide the locker room for you..
  If rocket and you came in the same year who is the starter?
i'll answer this question for you...

papi would start in the offense that he ran at mu and rocket would start in the offense he ran at mu

as much as papi likes to remind me that he was an option qb and db in high school, by the time he arrived at mu his knee would have prevented him from being a true running threat in the wing & spread offenses that rocket ran - on the flip side, rocket didn't develop the throwing accuracy he would have needed to run papi's offense until about 2/3 of the  way through his junior year (although that might have had something to do with only throwing the ball about 10 times a day in practice for his first two years :))

here are my perdictions...i want to get in on this to ;)
m'ville - 'cause their fans will get in the gc players head's...even from a few hundred miles away

wilkes, 'cause i'm not sure about cnu and the qb position yet...

ferrum, 'cause i think they're better than su right now

averett, 'cause i don't know much about w&l and i'm hoping for a conference w

mu, 'cause i'm a homer and i think the monarchs are better than the bishops...i also think this team wants a conference championship and realizes it starts this week

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 01:18:47 PM
Sorry ive been missing, my damn internet has been down.  I to went to Maryville that year to play the scotts and was very excited since I am a Tennessee native (Munford high School grad).  The atmosphere was awesome  (kind of a mini UT game) until we were warming up in the endzone and many of the fans were using profanity which i wasnt worried about, but the use of racial gestures against my fellow teammates was disturbing and very embarrising (since I represent Tennessee at all times, my teammates will tell you that).  It just sucks, when you walk into a great football atmosphere like that and it is ruined by idiots making comments about the opposing teams race not there athletic ability. Im sure they would not make those comments about players on the Maryville team.  I'm not talking about all the Maryville fans, just backing up what my teammate cnualumn9 was saying.  i really dont think there is anything we can do about a group of morons, but IT DID HAPPEN.

Go Captains.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 01:22:25 PM
3:47 left in 1st quarter

CNU 3
Wilkes 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 01:25:54 PM
Damn...On first play after kickoff wilkes takes a screen pass into the enzone.

CNU 3
Wilkes 7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 27, 2008, 01:29:40 PM
Ferrum 0

SU  0

End of the First qtr.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 01:35:05 PM
wilkes hits a 42yd field goal to make it
CNU 3
Wilkes 20
:03 secs left in the 1st quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2008, 01:35:46 PM
10-3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 27, 2008, 01:37:01 PM
Ferrum 7

SU  0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 01:44:31 PM
sorry thats what i meant cnu 3 wilkes 10. im an idiot.  Captains just missed a field goal. score is the same
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 01:54:08 PM
damn, i went to taco bell and come back to a score of
CNU 3
Wilkes 17

What happen?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 27, 2008, 01:57:05 PM
FC 14

SU 6

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2008, 02:01:05 PM
Quote from: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 01:44:31 PM
sorry thats what i meant cnu 3 wilkes 10. im an idiot.  Captains just missed a field goal. score is the same

dang.....I go get my shower and Wilkes scores again.......

When is CNU going to learn to quit going for it on 4th down in their territory EARLY in the game.....we give away so many points and worse....hand over momentum.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2008, 02:04:01 PM
NArch - score?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 02:04:21 PM
Captains driving a little....Mike Thomas might be showing some of his old school running
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2008, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 01:54:08 PM
damn, i went to taco bell and come back to a score of
CNU 3
Wilkes 17

What happen?

HAHA - If you went to the Taco Bell on Warwick and Nettles, you're lucky Monday Night Football wasn't on by the time you got back!! :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2008, 02:09:20 PM
Cool...TD CNU....17-10. Tunde takes it in from way out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 02:13:07 PM
Verizon wireless f***ing sucks A$$......
halftime CNU 10 Wilkes 17.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 27, 2008, 02:13:42 PM
FC 14
SU 6

Halftime

Rainy Sloppy field. Ferrum had a TD called back on a penalty
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2008, 02:13:53 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 27, 2008, 02:04:01 PM
NArch - score?
i think the live stats feed is from last year's game as it shows mu losing 29-0...interesting, though, it's got teague at qb and none of the senior monarchs that played in the debacle last year are listed in the live stats box score...weird :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 02:15:09 PM
hahahah, ive been to that taco belll and youre right.....Slow is not that right word for it. Maybe turtle speed is better
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 27, 2008, 02:17:59 PM
Quote from: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 01:18:47 PM
Sorry ive been missing, my damn internet has been down.  I to went to Maryville that year to play the scotts and was very excited since I am a Tennessee native (Munford high School grad).  The atmosphere was awesome  (kind of a mini UT game) until we were warming up in the endzone and many of the fans were using profanity which i wasnt worried about, but the use of racial gestures against my fellow teammates was disturbing and very embarrising (since I represent Tennessee at all times, my teammates will tell you that).  It just sucks, when you walk into a great football atmosphere like that and it is ruined by idiots making comments about the opposing teams race not there athletic ability. Im sure they would not make those comments about players on the Maryville team.  I'm not talking about all the Maryville fans, just backing up what my teammate cnualumn9 was saying.  i really dont think there is anything we can do about a group of morons, but IT DID HAPPEN.

Go Captains.

Wow I thought this thread was put to bed a while ago.  So what you are saying too is that even IF it happened, your school might not have an idiot or two at your games... chances are you probably do.  I have been at a lot of the games in the past and never heard that.  But whatever, you have what you think you heard and I can speak from what I hear week in and week out at the games.  They just don't paint the picture you are trying to make us all out to be.  Maybe after I visit each stadium I should just make a general statement about all the fans and people there based off one thing I heard.  I have been involved with games where there were people heckling and saying stuff at us (including very derogatory), but being the adult I was I just ignored it and let them make a fool of themselves.  If someone hurt your feelings a couple of years ago cnu63 I am so sorry.  It's life, people can be stupid everywhere (including at CNU), so just let it rest and move on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 02:34:30 PM
settle down I havent been on here in awhile and was just commenting on a situation that i was apart of.  And if you read what i wrote, I said that there were a few idiots that should be punch in the mouth.  I was embarrassed by those few guys like i said, I am from Memphis TN and was bragging to my teammates about the excitement for football in tennessee and all they can remember is drunk rednecks behind the fence of the endzone shouting racial remarks.  The atmosphere at Maryville was great and the players had great sportsmanship even while we were beating them.  The majority of the fans were awesome, and the tailgating looked great.  Growing up in west Tennessee Ive been to a bunch of UT games and Memphis state games so i know the fans in Tennessee are passionate about their teams, and we all know there is nothing anyone can do about ignorant people like the guys we have mentioned.

And I'll be done with that. Hopefully I will make the trip this year as a fan and we will see if CNU is greeted the same way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 27, 2008, 03:54:43 PM
Missed the entire second half, as I had to go out with family.

Ferrum goes to 3-1,  defeating Shenandoah  14-12
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 27, 2008, 04:01:15 PM
Any other scores from the conference?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 27, 2008, 04:12:27 PM
Final NCWC -42, MU- 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 27, 2008, 04:18:41 PM
Any word on the CNU/Wilkes game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on September 27, 2008, 04:43:50 PM
CNU was up 18-17 with five minutes left.  That was my last update.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 27, 2008, 05:27:27 PM
What about CNU...any final yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2008, 05:28:32 PM
CNU was up 18-17....then Wilkes kicks a FG with 1:24 to go. CNU drives and kicks winning FG with 10 seconds left. CNU wins 21-20
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 27, 2008, 05:44:24 PM
The boys from CNU pulled it out today, wis i couldve heard the whole game, but verizon DSL sucks so i didn't. FOrget listening, I'm making the trip to shenadoah next week. Get ready CNU fans, were on the road tailgating next week.

Congrats to the Captains, celebrate tonight, put it away and get ready for Confrence play.

GO CAPTAINS
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 27, 2008, 07:29:20 PM
7-0 Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 27, 2008, 08:18:37 PM
10-0 Maryville at Halftime.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 27, 2008, 09:01:27 PM
10-7 Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 27, 2008, 09:11:35 PM
13-10 Greensbroro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2008, 09:13:07 PM
Quote from: Old Blackbird on September 27, 2008, 04:12:27 PM
Final NCWC -42, MU- 0
the bishops sure have had the monarchs number the last couple of years...whoa...so much for this being a rebuilding year...i kinda feel like a georgia fan right now...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 27, 2008, 09:22:27 PM
16-10 Greensboro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 27, 2008, 09:42:24 PM
17-16 Maryville 3:16 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on September 27, 2008, 09:51:24 PM

Merry Christmas Maryville !!

Late and VERY bad pass interference call in the endzone on 4th down for Maryville gives them the score with 3 mins left in game.

The another bad holding call when GC gets the ball. Tough game, but the officials made the decision.

Good game Scots . . . . they played well - any team could have won. No home field advantage for the Pride - again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 27, 2008, 09:56:09 PM
Any team could have won really.  Really messy field conditions from what the video showed...

Go Scots 1-0 in the conference!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 28, 2008, 01:30:44 AM
Just did a quick check.....no conference team has beaten a D3 team with a winning record this year. A few wins against 2-2 teams, but nobody with a record above .500

Finally conference play begins for CNU. I hope we don't give away any games by going for it on 4th down in our own territory in the first half........we've done that too many times. It almost cost CNU the game today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 28, 2008, 05:39:14 AM
I must say, NCWC put on quite a display yesterday. I felt this team had the potential to be pretty good, but Methodist ran into a buzz saw yesterday. It was complete domination on both sides of the ball. It was just unfortunate that Methodist was the opponent , because I think MU is a better team than that. I don't think it would have made much difference who NCWC played yesterday the results would have been a W. I have seen this team really mature since the beginning of the season. If they play the way they played yesterday the remainder of the season, it could be interesting. I know one thing, they surprised me!

By the way, if anyone knows the condition of MU's punter, I'd like to know. He took a furocious hit on a partially blocked punt and was taken to the Hospital.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 28, 2008, 05:43:14 PM
CNU63, if you are making the trip to Maryville this year, let me know. Im thinking about going.

as for the predictions this week. ProudFightngScot went 5 for 5 nice.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 28, 2008, 06:16:17 PM
ATTENTION ALL CNU FOOTBALL ALUMNI!!!! A few of us are planning a trip to the CNU vs Shenadoah game, let me know if you're intrested. Also, try to get in touch with as many guys as possible. It would be good to see everyone and root for the boys from CNU.

Crazylegs, ill let you know about maryville. i think the titans are home that weekend so i could make the cnu game maybe the Vols ame and then head to nashville for the titans.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 28, 2008, 06:31:43 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on September 28, 2008, 05:43:14 PM

as for the predictions this week. ProudFightngScot went 5 for 5 nice.

A blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while I guess ha ha
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 29, 2008, 08:28:01 AM
CNU63, that sounds like one helluva weekend. That's the way my dad, brother and I did the UMHB game last year.  The Cowboys happened to have a Sun night game. I know a girl in knoxville, so I would be down for going even if I didnt make all 3 games. Where are the Titans and Vols in relationship to Maryville?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 29, 2008, 05:58:19 PM
the vols are in knoxville which is only about 30 mins away and the titans are in nashville which is about 3 hrs if i can remember
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 30, 2008, 09:56:10 AM
Are there going to be more picks for this week?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on September 30, 2008, 02:44:53 PM
i don't understand what the karma is for and i def. do not understand why i have -2...... >:(...please inform me why this is
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 30, 2008, 02:51:18 PM
CNU63, karma is people giving praise(or not) to your comments. I didn't think anybody still clicked on that stuff. What time you leaving for Shenandoah?

Ask and ye shall receive Proudscot...

CNU v. Shenandoah......................CNU
CNU is ready for game 3. Look for the O to figure it out and D to be stingy as always

Greensboro v. BYE........................Greensboro
BYE doesn't have what it takes this year.

Maryville v. NCW.......................... NCW
Tough maryville D keeps it close but not enough.

Ferrum v. Averett........................Ferrum
Ferrum D gets a shut out this week 17-0

Methodist v. E&H......................... Methodist
Hungry after getting embarrassed last week Meth ekes one out.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 30, 2008, 10:36:11 PM
Quote from: cnu63 on September 30, 2008, 02:44:53 PM
i don't understand what the karma is for and i def. do not understand why i have -2...... >:(...please inform me why this is
Hey, cnu63.  In a nutshell, Karma is an indication of what other readers think of your posts.  If an individual likes what you wrote (or how you wrote it), he/she may give you an "applaud" (+1).  If an individual doesn't like what you wrote (or how you wrote it), he/she may give you a "smite" (-1).  To prevent someone from going overboard, you can't applaud/smite the same person more than once in a 24-hour period.  The applaud/smite portion doesn't appear on your screen because you have less than the required 200 posts ... so right now, you're a bit at the mercy of others.  When you reach 200, it'll appear without you having to do anything.  As so many others have correctly said, just keep posting and don't worry about it.  Welcome aboard and an applaud for you!  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 01, 2008, 07:55:39 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on September 30, 2008, 02:51:18 PM

CNU v. Shenandoah......................CNU
CNU is ready for game 3. Look for the O to figure it out and D to be stingy as always

Greensboro v. BYE........................Greensboro
BYE doesn't have what it takes this year.

Maryville v. NCW.......................... NCW
Tough maryville D keeps it close but not enough.

Ferrum v. Averett........................Ferrum
Ferrum D gets a shut out this week 17-0

Methodist v. E&H......................... Methodist
Hungry after getting embarrassed last week Meth ekes one out.



Here are my picks...

CNU - why... b/c they are CNU
Greensboro - I fliped a coin and BYE lost, but it could swing either way... Greensboro barely eeks out a win against a tough BYE opponent
Maryville - If their offense can move the ball I think they will be ok.  Conference's #1 Defense (MVC) and #2 Defense (NCW) makes it a good defensive struggle.  Low scoring game.
Ferrum - Running attack too much for Averett
E&H - The woes continue for Methodist this week again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on October 01, 2008, 08:29:52 AM
CNU WINS

NCW WINS BIG. WAY TO MUCH TEAM SPEED FOR THE HILLBILLIES

FERRUM

EH
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 01, 2008, 01:14:51 PM
Ha Ha... CNU63 if you are worried about your karma just take a look at mine.  :o :o Great to see some of you guys posting on this blog and I know I will see you guys at some of the home games.

Go CNU!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 01, 2008, 02:33:37 PM
For those that are interested SU put on its web site today that all future home games will be shown live on the internet. Now if you are not able to drive up to Winchester in the future you can still watch the game. Hopefully in the near future all the USAC schools will do this. http://www.su.edu/athletics/hornets_news.cfm?spid=2132
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 01, 2008, 03:38:49 PM
CNU v. Shenandoah......................CNU
It would be sweat to see Shenandoah pull a big upset

Greensboro v. BYE........................Greensboro
This is one I will get right for sure

Maryville v. NCW.......................... Maryville

Ferrum v. Averett........................Averett
Averett has to find the win column sooner or later and this looks like a good weekend to do it. They just need to learn how to tackle, run complete pass paterns, catch footballs, block, and play 4 complete quarters of hard nose football.

Methodist v. E&H......................... Methodist
This one may be closer than we think.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2008, 04:41:46 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 01, 2008, 02:33:37 PM
For those that are interested SU put on its web site today that all future home games will be shown live on the internet. Now if you are not able to drive up to Winchester in the future you can still watch the game. Hopefully in the near future all the USAC schools will do this. http://www.su.edu/athletics/hornets_news.cfm?spid=2132

SUPER!! Thanks for the info. Now I can stay home this weekend and fill out college apps with my daughter and still see the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 02, 2008, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 01, 2008, 03:38:49 PM
CNU v. Shenandoah......................CNU
It would be sweat to see Shenandoah pull a big upset

Greensboro v. BYE........................Greensboro
This is one I will get right for sure

Maryville v. NCW.......................... Maryville

Ferrum v. Averett........................Averett
Averett has to find the win column sooner or later and this looks like a good weekend to do it. They just need to learn how to tackle, run complete pass paterns, catch footballs, block, and play 4 complete quarters of hard nose football.

Methodist v. E&H......................... Methodist
This one may be closer than we think.


       I was good enough to be an All American except I was too slow, not big enough, & didn't have enough talent. Otherwise...I was there!! Sorry kicker.....just couldn't pass that one up. ;) :D
       
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 02, 2008, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 02, 2008, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 01, 2008, 03:38:49 PM
CNU v. Shenandoah......................CNU
It would be sweat to see Shenandoah pull a big upset

Greensboro v. BYE........................Greensboro
This is one I will get right for sure

Maryville v. NCW.......................... Maryville

Ferrum v. Averett........................Averett
Averett has to find the win column sooner or later and this looks like a good weekend to do it. They just need to learn how to tackle, run complete pass paterns, catch footballs, block, and play 4 complete quarters of hard nose football.

Methodist v. E&H......................... Methodist
This one may be closer than we think.


       I was good enough to be an All American except I was too slow, not big enough, & didn't have enough talent. Otherwise...I was there!! Sorry kicker.....just couldn't pass that one up. ;) :D
       

THAT was funny!!!! They just need to learn how to play football......notice they are ok in the kicking game!!   :D :D :D


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 02, 2008, 01:45:06 PM
Ever notice how bad teams often have an all-conference punter?  I guess he gets lots of chances to punt even if he doesn't have many PAT's or is rarely in FG range!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 02, 2008, 01:46:48 PM
It just doesn't seem like football season for me. Hanna messed up the first game and took away some of the excitement of the season. although, Wesley may have taken away even more - who knows, they seem to be struggling  a little early on.

I did sneak away from work early enough one day to go watch the scrimmage with Fork Union and I listened to the Salsibury game in a hotel lounge/bar/lobby in Chicago on my laptop (geeky, I know!) and listened to this past weekend to the Wilkes game on the internet.

Maybe I can watch the live feed at Shenandoah. Next week we finally get our first home game of the year - and it's mid October!!! I'm not even sure I want to ramp up all the tailgate stuff or just go crash one. I have an open invitation to the Long's tailgate and they're fun people.

Plus the Vikings suck again this year and my fantasy team is mediocre......

I know the cure......a few CNU blowouts!! I'd love to go watch a home game and watch CNU stomp someone 45-0. I want to see a 38-0 game with 2:00 minutes to go, 4th down and CNU goes for it!!

Ok - I feel better - let out a little aggression. Probably why back in the day I was a LB.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 02, 2008, 02:09:10 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 02, 2008, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on October 02, 2008, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 01, 2008, 03:38:49 PM
CNU v. Shenandoah......................CNU
It would be sweat to see Shenandoah pull a big upset

Greensboro v. BYE........................Greensboro
This is one I will get right for sure

Maryville v. NCW.......................... Maryville

Ferrum v. Averett........................Averett
Averett has to find the win column sooner or later and this looks like a good weekend to do it. They just need to learn how to tackle, run complete pass paterns, catch footballs, block, and play 4 complete quarters of hard nose football.

Methodist v. E&H......................... Methodist
This one may be closer than we think.


       I was good enough to be an All American except I was too slow, not big enough, & didn't have enough talent. Otherwise...I was there!! Sorry kicker.....just couldn't pass that one up. ;) :D
       

THAT was funny!!!! They just need to learn how to play football......notice they are ok in the kicking game!!   :D :D :D




Well, I had planned on keeping my mouth shut and staying out of trouble but my comments were based on sitting there and watching them against Bridgewater and W&L and seeing the same thing everyone else in the stadium was witnessing. Bottom line they should have beat those two teams. Against Bridgewater the defense gave up over 100 yards in penalties just in the first half. O-Line didn't block and QB threw two interceptions that were run back for TD's (one by a Defensive Lineman (look what I found Momma). Bridgewater capitalized and Averett couldn't overcome. Offense didn't come to life until mid way second half. Against W&L (Yea someone could blame it on the rain, but hell it affected both teams evenly), my comments were correct.  The receivers stopped running and the ball was over thrown many times. Then when they did run routes correctly, they couldn't catch it. Bouncing ouff chest, off hands, etc. (Ugly) Too many sacks because O-line came off the blocks too early. Backs not hitting the hole, instead they were dancing around in the backfield. Trying to arm tackle W&L's number 9 is like trying to stop a tank. They were just going though the motions. Blown pass coverage time after time (same in Bridgewater game). Yes, last year the excuse was they were young, inexperienced, lost 26 seniors, no leadership. Well they have had all off season, recuritment season, spring practice, training camp and now 3 weeks plus an extra bye week to stop doing junior high school mistakes and get all this fixed.

Kicking..........6 for 6 on extra points. The rest of the time they are trying for 2 points because they are too deep in the hole. One for two on field goals....no opportunities. Punting......you can't punt the ball with it snapped 10 feet over your head and when you have 9 guys coming at you and the blocking breaks down, there is no time to think about placement because all you are trying to do is get it off without it getting blocked. Kickoff's .......can't score enough to grade although they are 1 for 1 on on-sides, 1 touchback and only 1 out of bounds. The net yardage is due to cover team not covering and getting down field fast enough.  That good enough for you 85....yea mine missed the fieldgoal but we won't talk about the snap being on the ground and the holder barely getting it up (laces towards the kicker) so it could be kicked. If there was anything to brag about on it, at least it was straight and in the middle, just 1 yard short. Don't worry, I chewed him out and I am sure he got chewed out during film. Bad snaps, bad holds and laces out of position are no excuse.

Bottom line Averett needs to come out and play with reckless abandonment and stop playing 3 quarter speed and go full speed the entire game. They need to stop making stupid bone head mental errors and be out there because they want to play and win and not just wear a uniform to attract the skirts.

Enough said, I am sure the Averett coaches will read this and have my head Saturday but everyone saw the issues same as I so why try to make excuses like my Va. Tech friends do when they lose. Tell it like it is and do something about it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 02, 2008, 03:30:48 PM
Twwwwaaaannnnnnnnngggggggg....


The sound of the nerve I plucked on Kickerdad. You should know by now I joke around quite a bit...this is my release. No harm. Even though I noticed you singled me out and not Hasanova or Allsky.

But seriously (ok I'm not being serious - just having fun) - go back and read your posts and see how it looks to a reader not involved with Averett as emotionally as you are:

100 yds in penalties in 1 half by the defense - translation - they don't know the rules or they are extremely undisciplined.

the receivers stopped running - they are out of shape or gave up when behind (see discipline comment above)

they (WR) couldn't catch the ball - then they are playing wrong position

Too many sacks because O-line came off blocks too early - they are out of shape or gave up when behind (see discipline comment above)

They were going through the motions - they are out of shape or gave up when behind (see discipline comment above)

net yardage due to cover team not getting down field fast enough - they are out of shape or gave up when behind (see discipline comment above)

I'm sure you probably have thought of the above already....but here's my favorite response to your quote below

"you can't punt the ball with it snapped 10 feet over your head and when you have 9 guys coming at you and the blocking breaks down" -- maybe the O-line reads your posts and snap the ball over your son's head on purpose or don't want to block for him!!

Now that was funny -

anyway....being 6-6 on PATs - can't do better than that....and getting a ball heading in the right direction on a bad snap and hold is good, too. Don't yell at him .....he's doing the best he can....just watch and support your son. I'm sure he's 100 times more frustrated than you are!! For everything you've seen from the stands...he's seen on game films being clicked back and forth. He also hears the words spoken in the locker room you'll never hear. Just be a dad and allow him to come to you and vent his frustration or share his joy....he will win a game at the last minute and probably all he wants to hear after that  is your voice saying..."great job" as you grin with pride.







Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 02, 2008, 03:39:46 PM
CNU 85,

Thanks, I needed that.

P.S. Mine isn't the punter. Hasn't punted since high school.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 02, 2008, 03:48:59 PM
85,

Sorry for the way I came across, I wasn't screaming at you or anyone on this board. It was time for me to blow a head gasket and I blew. Maybe now after reading your response, I will stay in my seat and stop pacing during the game and actually enjoy my wifes tailgate food she prepares each week. Maybe I will sneak a beer this week as long as someone else is doing the driving.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on October 02, 2008, 04:54:49 PM
Thanx for all the karma comments ya'll, i really needed that.  Well, A few of us are headed up to the CNU/SHenadoah game this sat and we are really looking forward to it.  Gonna get there early and tailgate for a few hours so it should be intresting, then OCT 11 at pomoco stadium we will throw down like bobby flay on the food network (sorry, im an ex olineman so I'm always thinking about food..hahaha) CNU85 should stop by and check us out.  Uncle jessie, I want to appoligize now for the A$$ wooping the hornets will be given this weekend. We can be friends on sunday but until then "IT"S ON!"

Good luck to everyone this weekend, Conference play is going to be intresting. I'm looking for an outright title this year but I know coach K and the boys will take it one game at a time and it starts at Shenadoah.

My picks:

Greensboro (of course because they have a bye)\

maryville (the boys from Tennessee will get the win)

Ferrum is too much for averett

I hate to pick outside the conference but methodist cannot get it done, sorry E&H all the way.

AND THE PICK OF THE DAY IS CNU OVER THE HORNETS..........27-0...Grahm gets 2 more fg's.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 02, 2008, 04:58:01 PM
Anyone know if Maryville/NCWC is on radio, or provides live stats?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 02, 2008, 05:12:04 PM
kickerdad,

Dont take this the wrong way..But if I where you I wouldnt really vent on here or at least save it for a season recap or something.  Your sons coaches def read this and you prob put him in a awkward situation with them.  Anyways they have shown they can coach at Averett (its just about the players you have at the moment).   Also there is alot of fb left to be played...Maybe Averett has a great game to be played and negative comments couldnt help that could it?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 02, 2008, 06:52:36 PM
Mosh...I love ya to death but I gotta disagree. 
1-) If there are COACHES reading fan based boards then they get what they deserve
2-) I wish I'd had more fans that passionate about Monarch football when I was playing to actually call us out for playing poorly (it was just motivation for me...as a matter of fact I still remember when NARCH...yea you NARCH said that Greensboro's QB was better than me just before our game my Jr year...I think I went for 3 td's and almost 300 yards that game, probably my best game ever)
3-) I'm sure all kickerdad is trying to get across is that he is frustrated because his son's team is not doing well and he hates seeing that ... My dad never got on d3football.com but you could certainly hear him in the stands when we weren't playing good.
Kickerdad, the way I look at it...If anyone from Averett read your post and it didn't motivate them to kick it up a notch than they need to hang up their cleats or turn in their whistle because their competitive nature is not to the level it takes to be successful on the college level.

OK, I'm off my soap box now  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 02, 2008, 09:35:49 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 02, 2008, 03:48:59 PM
85,

Sorry for the way I came across, I wasn't screaming at you or anyone on this board. It was time for me to blow a head gasket and I blew. Maybe now after reading your response, I will stay in my seat and stop pacing during the game and actually enjoy my wifes tailgate food she prepares each week. Maybe I will sneak a beer this week as long as someone else is doing the driving.

we're cool.....I fully understand frustrations especially when your kid is playing. +1 for you to man up.....drink that beer.....enjoy the cooking.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 02, 2008, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on October 02, 2008, 06:52:36 PM

2-) I wish I'd had more fans that passionate about Monarch football when I was playing to actually call us out for playing poorly (it was just motivation for me...as a matter of fact I still remember when NARCH...yea you NARCH said that Greensboro's QB was better than me just before our game my Jr year...I think I went for 3 td's and almost 300 yards that game, probably my best game ever)


AdPapi - what year was that? just curious - thanks!  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 03, 2008, 05:33:48 AM
2000 I think...I remember GC gave us a fireworks show after the game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 03, 2008, 08:22:19 AM
Quote from: cnu63 on October 02, 2008, 04:54:49 PM
CNU85 should stop by and check us out. 

Where are you setting up camp on the 11th?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 03, 2008, 09:54:55 AM
Well, Wilder was a pretty good qb.

I was trying to point out one thing really.  Its the athletes time to shine and not the parent.  Put yourself in your kids shoes.  As an athlete you are usually competing all the time to remain the starter or get that starting role.  You never want to have a negative next to your name. 

I just dont see how second guessing coaches (in a public forum or from the sideline) makes a team better.  Honestly I just dont think it is the place for parents to overshadow the kids moment of glory.  Take a backseat and enjoy the show.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 03, 2008, 10:25:39 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 03, 2008, 09:54:55 AM
Well, Wilder was a pretty good qb.

I was trying to point out one thing really.  Its the athletes time to shine and not the parent.  Put yourself in your kids shoes.  As an athlete you are usually competing all the time to remain the starter or get that starting role.  You never want to have a negative next to your name. 

I just dont see how second guessing coaches (in a public forum or from the sideline) makes a team better.  Honestly I just dont think it is the place for parents to overshadow the kids moment of glory.  Take a backseat and enjoy the show.



moshergc9,

I appreciate your feedback and fully understand where you are coming from.

If the coaches are reading this, let me make one thing clear. I have told them to their face and via email to the AD, the coaches at Averett are first class and do a wonderful job with these young men. They teach them more than football as I see this displayed more and more everytime I visit and talk to my son.

However, we must remember that the coaches can't go on the field and perform/play/think for the players. They have to do that on their own. They have been trained, taught, conditioned and coached the best those coaches can do. On game day it's up to the players to go on that field and prove to everyone around and to themselves that they know what they are doing and how to do it.

When I played, I took losses bad. But if I knew that I had given 120% of my self as well as my teamates giving it everything they had, then I accepted the defeat. But if I sat in the locker room afterwards and knew in my heart that my playing level was below standard and I had slacked off, then I had issues. (I still have issues but you guys know that by now).

Anyway, I have gotten some good coaching from all of you and I have calmed down and gotten off the box. You won't hear anything negative from me the rest of the season  ;) ;) ;). I still believe in this team and know from what I have seen in the spring and training camp, and evaluated on paper, they can win. Hopefully they will come on strong in conference play and be the spoiler.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 03, 2008, 10:59:05 AM
you didnt give 120%?

See, i think that's why CNU is CNU. We give it all. From the guys on the field saturday to the bloodied up scout team. From the moment the ball is snapped until the whistle blows we are full tilt coming after your a$$. I guarantee you that the guys on CNU's practice squad are good enough to start for other conference teams. But they would rather win. And winning is about wanting it more. Every ounce of sweat in the gym, every drop of blood on the practice field, every play on saturday. It starts with heart. If you dont have it, you arent cut out for football.

When we walk off the field we will leave no doubt. Respect isnt a gift, its earned.

The Captain's open conference play tomorrow.
Good luck to the rest of the conference. May God have mercy on you, because CNU won't.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 03, 2008, 12:25:00 PM
Mosh...Wilder was the first team all conference QB that year I think and yes was very good.  But my point was it was motivation for me to see that and if a player reads something negative about themselves and that causes them to intentionally miss a block/make a bad snap/or whatever else then they need to do some soul searching and figure out if they really want to play ball or not.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 03, 2008, 01:23:32 PM
crazylegs,

you make me want to puke!

Really..I want to throw up..

Every team you play puts in the same amount of effort in training every year..your a state school and your school is at least 75 percent cheaper..so you get a little more talent than the average d3 school..

really i hope you guys lose at least 3 more this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 03, 2008, 01:45:04 PM
The good ole state school excuse...it never gets old does it?

Money wasn't a factor at all in my decision, recruiting was. I really was looking into going to Ferrum or Hampden-Sydney upon graduation, but the persistence of Coach Legg(he came to my high school at least once a week for about 3 months and even attended one of my basketball games on a friday night) was what ultimately lead to me going to CNU.

As for getting more talent than other schools, why is NCWC getting a good majority of the talent in South Hampton Roads lately? Maybe it has to do with the rising academic standards at CNU and NCWC's knowledge to understand where talent is and where to recruit. If not Teron Bush would be a Captain...he already comes out to CNU during the offseason to play pick-up football with the guys.

At some point, teams in the conference should just man up like NCWC did last year and aim for winning the conference title instead of shooting for second b/c the state school has an advantage. Get over it and play football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 03, 2008, 01:52:14 PM
P.S. Year-in and year-out, who is the #1 ranked team in the country for the majority of the year?

Yep you guessed it, a PRIVATE school out of Ohio, that goes by Mt. Union. I doubt they have ever complained about recruiting. Or maybe recruiting kids is easier if you actually win a game or 2. Just a thought.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 03, 2008, 02:04:23 PM
The issue here is private vs state.  Another issue is that you think your good just because of some mandate from heaven and that all the other kids that play in this conf dont work just as hard. 

I give CNU the credit for being good in an uneven ball field.  Good backing, by far the nicest facilities, easy to recruit, and play vs private schools.  Look at how Shenadoah, Averett, Greensboro, Methodist fared when they started football..Hell, take a look around the entire country and see how most teams did for the first five years of football.  It doesnt take a genius to figure out that cnu has some comparative advantages that most private schools cant match. 

D3 is D3 though..so i guess i dont really have much room to complain.  At least a bunch of kids can go to college and play football but dont think they arent working as hard as you...that would be foolish
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 03, 2008, 03:32:53 PM
I agree with you 100% that other schools are working just as hard as CNU. I wasn't the one to say they weren't, I was just simply stating that the private v. state issue is getting old. Advantage or not, teams still have to come to play and want to beat the best.  If you don't want to compete against the best than there is no need to play the game at all.

CNU still has to deal with the same issues that every team in the conference does. Plenty of good players that have come through CNU that could not finish their education because they could not find the funds.  Not to mention the kids who had to work a full-time job, while attending school full-time, and playing football full-time. So if you think CNU eats with a silver spoon, that is the farthest from the truth.

I respect ALL D3 athletes and always will. The blood, sweat, and tears put in by each athlete just so they can play the game they love for one last time is extremely admirable.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Olinemom on October 03, 2008, 04:03:30 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 03, 2008, 08:22:19 AM
Quote from: cnu63 on October 02, 2008, 04:54:49 PM
CNU85 should stop by and check us out. 

Where are you setting up camp on the 11th?
Hope you are doing well!!  Keep some tail gating time for the Stagg Bowl!  Hope to see you there and maybe even earlier!!! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 03, 2008, 07:36:39 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 03, 2008, 01:52:14 PM
P.S. Year-in and year-out, who is the #1 ranked team in the country for the majority of the year?

Yep you guessed it, a PRIVATE school out of Ohio, that goes by Mt. Union. I doubt they have ever complained about recruiting. Or maybe recruiting kids is easier if you actually win a game or 2. Just a thought.


     Mount Union is an anomaly. Money may not have been a factor for you but the reality is, it is a major factor for most. Being located in one of the best hotbeds for football talent in the country doesn't hurt either.  ;) CNU academic standards or not, when you have a larger pool to draw from in closer proximity, it is an advantage. This topic has been discussed ad nauseum on here but since it was brought up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on October 04, 2008, 12:25:39 AM
Old Blackbird,
Check the Maryville athletics site, they have the links for the audio broadcast as well as video streaming.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 04, 2008, 12:36:01 AM
Mosh so basically what you are saying is before we even played Gboro on the field, you all were already defeated. Besides, public versus private was not an issue when CNU lost the conference championship last year I guess NCW was another public school taking advantage of poor little private school kids. Mosh please explain to me your stance on an uneven playing field. Explain to me how starting a ton of freshmen whom didn't meet each other until August of that year in a championship game was a CNU advantage? Don't try to minimize my team's accomplishments because your teams could not get it done on the field. If you want to beat a dead horse on the public vs. private debate then how about you take the time to speak on how lightly your team took us in 01? Remember how you all took the time to take team pictures in the stands, laughed and joked us about how bad you all were going to beat us, and acted as if you all were God's gifts to D3 football right before you got your a$$e$ handed to you in CNU's first EVER VICTORY. So rest assure Mosh that your D3 football career was not in vain because you were a part of history.  ;)

Smite on Mosh but the fact of the matter is you are a hater and deep down I know that you wish you were a Captain.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 04, 2008, 07:48:08 AM
Wow, has this come up again??? I thought we beat that horse, shot that horse, burned that horse, and buried that horse a long time ago.  Does CNU have an advantage because they are a public school playing in a conference with private schools, of course they do and I'm not sure how anyone couldn't see it.

With that said, it is not an excuse for other teams to just roll over.  I am glad that CNU has come into the conference, they have forced each team to improve themselves, therefore improving our conference as a whole.  The whole private vs public debate doesn't matter because it is how it is and is going to be.  Accept it and move on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 04, 2008, 09:05:33 AM
Thanks Highlander....I think this will be a good game. For anyone interested, there is a nice article in the local paper today about the Bishop's new Quarterback, Bo Jordan. Glad to see the local paper take some interest in the Bishops......... Go Bishops!

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/sports/calling-out-the-players-nc-wesleyan-qb-bo-jordan-166772.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 04, 2008, 01:30:53 PM
End of the 1st.,

Ferrum 0

Averett 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 04, 2008, 01:47:41 PM
8:10 left in 1st half

Averett 9

Ferrum 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 04, 2008, 02:11:39 PM
Ferrum 7

Averett 9

:25 left in 1st half
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 04, 2008, 02:17:33 PM
Averett 9
Ferrum 7

HALFTIME
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 04, 2008, 02:50:16 PM
Ferrum 14
Averett 9
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 04, 2008, 03:02:52 PM
FC 14
AC   9 

End of third
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 04, 2008, 03:17:40 PM
FC intercepts Averett and converts to  TD, and adds a 2 pt. conversion

FC 22
AU 9
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 04, 2008, 04:34:36 PM
My comment about CNU putting in 100% was referring to Kickerdad:

"But if I sat in the locker room afterwards and knew in my heart that my playing level was below standard and I had slacked off, then I had issues"

I didn't say GC or any other conference team did not do this. I stated what I experienced and know from winning 4 championships @ CNU. There was no question. Not giving it all was never an issue. Every saturday it was all left on the field. That's how we do it @ CNU. From the bottom to the top we all push 100%.

As far as the public private thing? How about CNU's disadvantages? How about the standards for academics? You guys know how hard it is to get into CNU? And the location? full of talent?  ??? of course!!! Thats like saying a school is better because they have better players. Well duh. I mean what kind of argument is that? "Being located in one of the best hotbeds for football talent in the country doesn't hurt either" That's my point. We have talent, but talent alone doesn't win games. With out that drive to succeed you will always be a loser. CNU shouldn't have won the conference in the 1st year of existence. Not a chance in hell. But we did. Against teams that had been playing for years and decades for some. On an "uneven" field we got it done.

As for money being the factor? How about Chowan? they were in the USA south/ dixie conference. Now they have scholarship athletes!! And do you know how that has turned their program around? They have won 5 games over the last 4 years.  :o  So, come up with excuses all day long.  Private v. Public, Talented v. Talentless, Laces in v. Laces out. I'm tired of it. Play the game. Win and lose like a man, don't blame it on anything other than getting done.

and mosh?? really, you hope we lose at least 3 games? We play hard and fair. We don't hate. We want to beat you on saturday but could care less what happens  in your other games. I take it back, we actually wish you well. Represent the conference the best way possible. Win. Just don't expect a W against us. Good luck to you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 04, 2008, 04:46:02 PM
Anybody have any score from around the conference?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 04, 2008, 04:58:15 PM
FINAL SCORE

MARYVILLE 37    NCW 24

Sorry Footballsouthernstyle, the HILLBILLIES are 2-0 when you pick against us.   Please pick against us next week....

:D    :D    :D    :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 04, 2008, 05:18:31 PM
haha! Good job out there! Maryville looks pretty tough this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 04, 2008, 07:08:58 PM
anyone want me to start listing all of the conference players (and many that head to the ODAC or other conferences) that didn't get into CNU acadmically? Then we can talk about advantages vs disadvantages. Also, you don't see Mt Union complaining they can't compete with public schools.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 04, 2008, 07:11:40 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 01, 2008, 02:33:37 PM
For those that are interested SU put on its web site today that all future home games will be shown live on the internet. Now if you are not able to drive up to Winchester in the future you can still watch the game. Hopefully in the near future all the USAC schools will do this. http://www.su.edu/athletics/hornets_news.cfm?spid=2132

$9.95 per game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 04, 2008, 07:26:50 PM
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_teel_0905sep05,0,7014628.column (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_teel_0905sep05,0,7014628.column)

A nice piece on CNU head coach. This is why CNU is succesful.....has nothing to do with public v private.....and I'm close enough to a few situations that prove to me that the private schools can and will do many things to make the tuition equal, or in the case of really top recruits, less than CNU. CNU's hands are tied by state regulations. We can debate this thing to death - it's Ford vs Chevy, Democrat vs Republican - we fill our heads with data to support what we want to believe.

As one coach I had years ago used to say...."suit up, shut up, and play"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 04, 2008, 07:35:06 PM
wow....CNU has 95 yds rushing in first Quarter!! SU has 96 with 81 on one play.....seems like the fans turning their heads right to left like a tennis match.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 04, 2008, 07:36:10 PM
here we go again....1st half 4th down...cnu going for it......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 04, 2008, 07:37:33 PM
Dammit Kelchner!! Kick the FG!!!!

CNU didn't make it on 4th down.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 04, 2008, 07:43:29 PM
CNU v SU - FumbleFest '08
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 04, 2008, 07:51:59 PM
Congrats to Maryville against the Bishops!! Was hoping last weeks preformance would carry over! Didn't happen. Sounds like Maryville's defense had their number.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 04, 2008, 08:08:56 PM
CNU at Shenandoah -- tied at 7 at the half.

TD by Tunde Ogun for CNU, 14-7 CNU middle of the third.

Redzone CNU turnover as SU's Broxton gets the INT on the SU 19.  2:00 3Q.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 04, 2008, 09:14:29 PM
CNU's Graham 47 yd FG 5:58, 4 Q.  CNU 17-7.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 04, 2008, 09:26:00 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on October 02, 2008, 06:52:36 PM
2-) I wish I'd had more fans that passionate about Monarch football when I was playing to actually call us out for playing poorly (it was just motivation for me...as a matter of fact I still remember when NARCH...yea you NARCH said that Greensboro's QB was better than me just before our game my Jr year...I think I went for 3 td's and almost 300 yards that game, probably my best game ever)
in light of this, let me try something here....

the monarchs can't run the ball and they can't stop the run

hopefully, i've just motivated them the way i motivated you :)

and i honestly don't remember gc every having a qb that was better than the monarch qb...i must have been on...well, i must have been a little delusional :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 04, 2008, 09:27:29 PM
listening to the CNU game and it sounds like a tough game.  I am surprised how well SU is playing tonight...  However it turns out.  Great effort!!

As far as the MC game goes w/ NCW the score really doesn't indicate, no disrespected intended, how the game went.  I was there and 2 big plays on busted coverages by the Scots and that's about it as far as scoring drives go.  A touchdown w/ about 40 seconds left was the last score by NCW.  Our defense came up big.  It was a good day for the Scots over all.  Hightower really got going for the first time since his 2 injuries in the beginning of the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 04, 2008, 09:28:57 PM
Final CNU 17-7.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 04, 2008, 09:30:28 PM
Overall, I would say CNU's rushing dominated the game(Tunde Ogun 200yds). Turnovers made this game ugly for both teams. SU didn't really put much together on offense. One play went for 81 yards. Other than that I didn't see much. Ugly win for CNU but I'll take  it.

CNU 17 -- SU 7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 04, 2008, 09:40:29 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 04, 2008, 04:34:36 PM
How about Chowan? they were in the USA south/ dixie conference. Now they have scholarship athletes!! And do you know how that has turned their program around? They have won 5 games over the last 4 years.  :o
...for what it's worth, the teams they're playing also give scholarships....nice attempt, but bad comparison
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 04, 2008, 10:10:51 PM
exactly. On an "even" playing field they still suck. In fact When CNU played them last they were D2 with some scholarship players and CNU won 47-26.

Sure a less expensive school is more alluring... If you can get in. (e.g. Teron Bush). And to say that CNU is more talented than the rest of the conference is a slap in the face of your own players. If you wish to continue, be my guest.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 04, 2008, 10:15:08 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 04, 2008, 10:10:51 PM
exactly. On an "even" playing field they still suck. In fact When CNU played them last they were D2 with some scholarship players and CNU won 47-26.

You can't give too many scholarships in one recruiting class. That's all Chowan had in 2005 when CNU played them. Ferrum and Wesley beat them handily in 2005 too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 04, 2008, 10:30:58 PM
The point is they still suck scholarships or not. People try to discredit what we did on the field just because we are a public school. A lot of our starters were 18 or 19yrs old when we won our first title so get over it, fact of the matter is the rest of the conference let kids come and take the crown from grown men.

While the 757 is a hot bed for some great talent there are a TON of schools to go to in Va. D3, d1 etc to play good football so by no means is it easy for coach K to get in talented athletes. Sorry I forgot, it's easy to tell a kid he is going to have to pay 14+ to go to CNU with his 3.2 GPA and 1100 SAT scores instead of accepting a full ride to HU, ODU, VT, UVA, W&M, JMU, UR to name a few or get a pretty hefty "academic scholarship" :o from some private D3 schools in this area to offset the schools cost.

I don't think CNU has really gotten any legit d1 athletes since my 2nd or 3rd year there. Not saying that the current guys do not have d1 talent just speaking in terms of the total package, height, weight etc. So would someone please name me a couple of stud 757 prospects CNU has landed over the last several years?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 05, 2008, 05:27:50 AM
CHOWAN Braves!! Still talking about cultural, economic, and educational MECCA of northern NC!!

I hope they fixed that damn field since I played my last game there in 1976.

I miss playing in the snow at Lees-McRae. We could always win if it snowed. ;) 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 05, 2008, 09:53:43 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 04, 2008, 10:30:58 PM
The point is they still suck scholarships or not. People try to discredit what we did on the field just because we are a public school. A lot of our starters were 18 or 19yrs old when we won our first title so get over it, fact of the matter is the rest of the conference let kids come and take the crown from grown men.

While the 757 is a hot bed for some great talent there are a TON of schools to go to in Va. D3, d1 etc to play good football so by no means is it easy for coach K to get in talented athletes. Sorry I forgot, it's easy to tell a kid he is going to have to pay 14+ to go to CNU with his 3.2 GPA and 1100 SAT scores instead of accepting a full ride to HU, ODU, VT, UVA, W&M, JMU, UR to name a few or get a pretty hefty "academic scholarship" :o from some private D3 schools in this area to offset the schools cost.

I don't think CNU has really gotten any legit d1 athletes since my 2nd or 3rd year there. Not saying that the current guys do not have d1 talent just speaking in terms of the total package, height, weight etc. So would someone please name me a couple of stud 757 prospects CNU has landed over the last several years?

     At 4:00am this morning, I tried to type a response to your post but suddenly, it was as if my hands turned to lead. So since it is a beautiful Sunday morning and the birds of conciliation are singing outside, allsky7 wants the world to know that he loves the CNU Captains....GOOO CAPTAINS!!! (except Oct 18th  ;)) I'll be tailgating that weekend so come on down....beverages on me.  ;D
     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 10:58:41 AM
appreciate it allsky,
And we love you too. As I said earlier, CNU doesn't wish anyone to have a bad season. We just don't want them to do well against us.

Oh and Pat, can you tell me how many scholarship athletes CNU had that year? Thanks. Even if it was just a handful. That handful could have made a serious difference.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 05, 2008, 12:08:17 PM
i tried to stay out of this, but they sucked me in...:)

Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 10:58:41 AMOh and Pat, can you tell me how many scholarship athletes CNU had that year? Thanks. Even if it was just a handful. That handful could have made a serious difference.
chowan is just not a good example...they were really bad as a d3 without scholarships, so they clearly aren't going to get that much better with a handful of scholarship freshman infused with bad d3 upperclassmen - the difference between a bad d2 and a good d3 is NEVER that significant...chowan is one of the worst d2's in the country and cnu is a team that is typically in the top 50 (or so) d3's

want to see what a difference scholarships and public funding for stadiums, coaching staffs, academic facilities and the like makes?  look at unc-pembroke and contrast them to chowan...in year one uncp barely beat greensboro college with mostly freshman scholarship players in the first year of a d2 program...in year two they're 5-1 and would probably beat 50% (or more) of the d3 teams nationally....and they're not an upper tier d2 program by any stretch

according to an article that i read, about 1/3 of the football players at uncp are walk ons - they might have been able to compete for significant playing time at a private d3 school (or even a private d2 like wingate or catawba or lenoir rhyne or chowan), but have chosen to save money and attend a public d2 with the "hope" of landing a scholarship but the knowledge that if they don't, they're still saving money vs. those other places

Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 04, 2008, 10:30:58 PMSorry I forgot, it's easy to tell a kid he is going to have to pay 14+ to go to CNU with his 3.2 GPA and 1100 SAT scores instead of accepting a full ride to HU, ODU, VT, UVA, W&M, JMU, UR to name a few or get a pretty hefty "academic scholarship" :o from some private D3 schools in this area to offset the schools cost.
i can't speak to any other school, but i'll give you this example of a "hefty academic scholarship" at MU:

3.7+ GPA, 1500+ SAT score = $17,000 Presidential Scholarship at MU (source (http://www.methodist.edu/Financial_Aid/accschol.htm))

even if this student got no academic scholarship money at CNU (unlikely), you're still looking at a situation where the two institutions are now on approximately equal footing financially ($30,000/year - $17,000 = $13,000) - now, go out and find me 30-40 legit d3 players that want to attend MU with those numbers...if you can do it, maybe you can become the next monarch coach :)

using your example of a 3.2/1100 student: this student would get $8,500 at MU - this is not an insignificant amount, but certainly it doesn't close that gap as much as you and others might think ($30,000 - $8,500 = $21,500)...for a 3.2/1100 student from VA, MU is over $5,000 per year more expensive ($20,000 over 4 years)...if everything else were equal, which do you think is going to be the choice? don't get me wrong, i think mu is a great value even at full cost, but simply put, there are people that won't even consider a private college/university because of the price tag...

this doesn't even mention the gap in facilities (athletic and academic) that occurs with state funding...when a private wants to build a new science building or residence hall, they have to spend years raising the $$$ it takes to do so...when a public school does the same thing, it is essentially just added to the budget (i know there is more to it, but it's MUCH easier than raising funds) - i understand that cnu must raise funds for athletic facilities, but let's face it...most donors get more excited about giving money for athletic facilities - i'm sure POMOCO wouldn't want to spend the $$$'s they have to help fund the cnu football stadium for say, a new building for the social science department...

those that bring up mount union must also realize that ohio is a different state, especially when compared to NC, and to a lesser degree, VA...for one, d3 schools are the rule rather than the exception (unlike NC)...kids and parents don't grow up EXPECTING to get a scholarship if they're going to play a sport in college (of the 51 4 year colleges and universities in nc, all but 7, by my calculation, have scholarship granting athletic departments...and 3 of those 7 are women's colleges) - you must also understand that the state university system in ohio is not as pervasive as it is in a state like NC...

lastly, you can throw the admissions standards argument out all you want...i know for fact that there have been (and possibly continue to be) student-athletes at cnu who don't come close to meeting the standards for non-athletes - clearly exceptions have been made in the past, and i wouldn't be shocked if they continue to be made...

anyone that doesn't at least acknowledge the advantage inherent to being a public in d3, especially in a conference made up entirely of private schools, is blinded by allegiance...as papi said though, it shouldn't be used as an excuse by other teams in the conference - like papi, i'm glad cnu is in the conference - clearly the level of football in this conference has been improved since cnu entered the mix and, for all of the advantages, cnu has never won an outright conference championship in football, right :)

and by the way, none of this has anything to do with the monarchs inability to run the ball or stop the run...they've only played private, non-scholarship schools to this point :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 05, 2008, 01:43:14 PM
Narch
I am glad you could not resist. I enjoyed reading it. Now tell me a story about Papi in Thailand. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 05, 2008, 04:54:49 PM
Narch, I was recruited by a few private D3 schools and the first thing they tell you if you are a baller is don't worry about the sticker price because "we have ways of off setting the cost". The only reason I did not go to those schools is because recruiters sometimes lie and I was not about to chance paying 20+ a year for a education and go 3-7 on the field. Come to find out some of those recruiters were not lying and I KNOW of a kid that had less than a 2.8 coming out of high school scored maybe around 900 on the SAT and got a freaking academic scholarship to go to school. Private schools do not have to report things like public schools do so everyone has there own advantages.

It's college football and we do not have a conf. championship game so if you have one bad game you can end up tied for the title. But I do recall we got the automatic bid 3 out of the four years I played, and because we played a tough non conf. PRIVATE school schedule we still got a bid to the playoffs.

So to all the private school fans that are upset about CNU being a public school what is your excuse for your suspect records against other private schools?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 05, 2008, 05:42:33 PM
I personally think that the private schools have the advantage....It's like buying a car right????  The more expensive the better right???  With that perspective I can't believe any student athlete would rather go to a public school knowing they would be giving up a life a luxury that private schools can provide.  ;)

Recruiters don't lie....everything my USCG recruiter promised me panned out ... how bout you abn, your recruiter lie to you??? ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 06:25:05 PM
dearest narch,

1. Chowan is a great example if we are discussing the USA south. They were in the division and sucked. Kinda like that school methodist. Your argument was that CNU was cheaper, thereby making us more appealing to athletes and therefore better.

2. Your argument about UNC-pembroke proves my point. Even they couldn't get it done in year one (a task that CNU accomplished). Chowan still sucks. My point is that MU would still suck even if money wasn't an issue.

3. Here's a quote form you, "...about 1/3 of the football players at uncp are walk ons - they might have been able to compete for significant playing time at a private d3 school...". HU, NSU, ODU, W&M, U of R. That's 5 scholarship schools in close proximity to CNU who leach athletes away from CNU. And the list goes on...

4. your numbers dont add up. The scholarship you speak of covers 100% of the tuition. That was for $17,000 a semester. Get that education @ MU? sorry, it was MC back then.

5. Here's another quote from you, "using your example of a 3.2/1100 student: this student would get $8,500 at MU..." Problem here is that if the student didn't get those numbers he probably wouldn't get in to CNU. So he would have to go somewhere else as those numbers are well below par for CNU.

6. Quote from you again, "i know for fact that there have been (and possibly continue to be) student-athletes at cnu who don't come close to meeting the standards for non-athletes " Please cite examples. Otherwise, don't make up or assume things and play them off as facts.

Finally a quote from (you guessed it) you!, (regarding public v. private) "it shouldn't be used as an excuse by other teams in the conference" You sir are dead on!!! kudos to you! so why bring it up?? Why use it as a perennial excuse? When someone says something about CNU being good because they are hard working, tough and full of heart, why do you constantly bring up your hardships. Did Jackie Robinson Cry about being treated unfairly? Nope, he shut up a lot of people by succeeding even though the majority of society was against him. You think he got a fair shake? The great one find a way to get the job done no matter what.

And yes CNU has never won an outright title. Exactly how many times has MU represented the conference in the NCAA playoffs? I think I taste sour grapes. Good luck this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Falcon2720 on October 05, 2008, 07:00:12 PM
CNU is a good d3 program that plays in a bad conference.  The USA South is a terrible football conference.  Nobody in the conference ever competes for national championships.  USA South Schools get crushed in the playoffs. 

USA South football playoff record is 3-8, never getting past the second round.

If the USA South wanted to get rid of CNU they could.  All the others schools would have to agree on it.  They got rid of Chowan 4 years ago.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 05, 2008, 07:27:05 PM
They're BACK!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on October 05, 2008, 07:28:05 PM
I think everyone should shut the hell up about this private vs public issue, its a waste of time and posts.  CNU has helped put the USA south on the map and has raised the playing level of the other teams in the conference.  I was at the CNU Shenadoah game lastnight and ill tell you this, every team in our conference plays us like its a playoff game and that is what conference play should be like every week.  The energy level is always cranked up a notch when CNU comes to town and all of you know that.  I played for CNU for 5 years and by no means have we ever thought we were just gonna roll right over everyone in the conference.  We realize the conference hates us but we take that hate as respect and i enjoyed every team that gave us their all everytime we played them.

One of the main reasons we are tough is because our coaching staff knows how to recruit, and by no means do they stay in the hampton roads area.  Our coaches are recruiting all over the state of virginia and sometimes other states.  Also, coach K is constantly trying to challenge us with top notch non-conference games.  If every team in our conference jumped on the tough scheduling band wagon, maybe our conference could gain some national respect from  division 3 football.

I would like to say one more thing: SHenadoah has stepped it up as far as the atmosphere up there. Like I said I made the 4hr drive yesterday and it was a great time.  Plenty of room to tailgate, the new turf looks amazing, facilities look amazing ( i remember the tents and port a potties from my sophmore year).  The fans at shenadoah were loud and plentiful and their sideline was hyped up.  It was a great football experience, it was wierd being on the other side though ( rather of been suited up).  CNU travelled with the band and the cheerleaders, which was awesome.  I reallly feel like the band/cheerleaders should always travel.  It just makes the atmosphere that much better.

So to end my argument, by having CNU in the USA south has made everyone step it up a notch.  Im not saying Shenadoah's upgrades are direct reflections from having us in the conference, but it is nice to see others in our conference taking their programs to the next level.

Can't wait til next sat, the home field talget will be off the hook.

GO CAPTAINS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on October 05, 2008, 07:28:47 PM
Damn.....I meant TAILGATE
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on October 05, 2008, 07:30:41 PM
by the way? i think i did alright with the pic ems, how bout it crazy legs?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 08:25:50 PM
CNU63, you and Proudfightinscot got em 100%

So for the season I have

ProudFightingScot...................2
CNU63....................................1
Everybody Else.........................0

I wish I had started keeping track earlier in the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2008, 08:34:53 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 10:58:41 AM
Oh and Pat, can you tell me how many scholarship athletes CNU had that year? Thanks. Even if it was just a handful. That handful could have made a serious difference.

But it didn't. As narch said, Chowan had three really bad classes and then a few 18-year-olds with partial scholarships. Yawn.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 05, 2008, 08:41:34 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2008, 08:34:53 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 10:58:41 AM
Oh and Pat, can you tell me how many scholarship athletes CNU had that year? Thanks. Even if it was just a handful. That handful could have made a serious difference.

But it didn't. As narch said, Chowan had three really bad classes and then a few 18-year-olds with partial scholarships. Yawn.




I know that Chowan wasn't a top flight team but they were a little more competitive until a certain coach decimated the roster by cutting some players and other quitting weren't they?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 08:43:28 PM
Here's what's on tap for this week.

Greensboro @ CNU...........................CNU
Shenandoah(bye)
NCWC(bye)
Averett @ Methodist.........................Averett
Maryville @ Ferrum..........................Maryville

Not too many to pick this week.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 08:50:06 PM
Pat,
the team had the opportunity to offer scholarships. Whether they panned out or not wasn't my argument.  They had a more appealing school from a financial stand point. I can't help it if they recruited the wrong guys or coaching didn't get it done or whatever the problem was.

A lot more than tuition costs go into making a good football team. Yawn.

Cut the cost of Methodist University in half and I see them in the same spot they are in now. Maybe they move up one spot in the conference. What say ye Pat?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 05, 2008, 08:56:39 PM
My point was as it remains -- a couple scholarships in one class does not make a team true Division II quality. Not sure why we're still having this discussion, to be honest. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 05, 2008, 09:14:49 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 06:25:05 PM
4. your numbers dont add up. The scholarship you speak of covers 100% of the tuition. That was for $17,000 a semester.
i'm sorry that you aren't very good at math, but mu costs around $30,000 per year (over $20,000 for tuition alone...which is about $3,000 more than $17,000) and the scholarship is a yearly scholarship....everywhere i went to school (and i'm sure even at cnu) 30-17=13...

Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 06:25:05 PM5. Here's another quote from you, "using your example of a 3.2/1100 student: this student would get $8,500 at MU..." Problem here is that if the student didn't get those numbers he probably wouldn't get in to CNU. So he would have to go somewhere else as those numbers are well below par for CNU.
...see, this is where you clearly show you don't understand elementary statistics...per the cnu website (http://admissions.cnu.edu/undergraduateAdmissions/whoStudiesAtCNU.cfm), the middle 50% of the freshman class has between a 3.2 - 3.8 gpa and scored between a 1090 and 1260 on the sat...it's very likely that a student who is within the mid 50 ranges in both gpa and sat WOULD be admitted to cnu and those numbers are most certainly not "well below par for cnu"...

Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 06:25:05 PM6. Quote from you again, "i know for fact that there have been (and possibly continue to be) student-athletes at cnu who don't come close to meeting the standards for non-athletes " Please cite examples. Otherwise, don't make up or assume things and play them off as facts.
it simply isn't right to call out names in a public forum like this, so you'll have to either trust me or not believe it...it is questionable that a student who wasn't an exception to cnu's admissions policy wouldn't know that 30-17=13, though :) (it's a joke...kinda)

Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 06:25:05 PMso why bring it up?? Why use it as a perennial excuse?
i didn't and i don't...i was simply responding to those who don't have enough common sense to acknowledge that there is an inherent advantage...i've never once said that cnu wins BECAUSE they are a state school - i think the cnu staff and student-athletes should be commended for what they've accomplished - the coaching staff obviously realizes the advantages inherent to recruiting in-state students, though...a quick review of the roster identifies exactly 2 out-of-state football players

Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 05, 2008, 06:25:05 PMAnd yes CNU has never won an outright title. Exactly how many times has MU represented the conference in the NCAA playoffs? I think I taste sour grapes. Good luck this season.
reading comprehension is important...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 05, 2008, 09:37:14 PM
Crazylegs...no one on this board is trying to belittle what CNU has accomplished since it began playing football.  No one is saying that the private vs. public debate is the REASON they win games.  In fact, I think most of us agree with you on your reasons why CNU is a solid program in our conference.  All most of us are trying to say is that it is an advantage, not the REASON you win. 
Every school has its advantages, whether it's cheaper tuition, location, gender ratio's, distance from military bases (you want to take over the world with a D3 school, you might want to start recruiting at MU).  If you can't see that being a public school in this conference is the least bit of an advantage....well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 05, 2008, 10:50:54 PM
Woops..Did I start this?

I had the chance to watch SU beat GC womans soccer team for the first time ever.  The only reason I mention it because I got to see the new turf..Looks pretty good.  I wish Greensboro would get its act together in that department.

Big week for the Pride this week.  Would be nice to get that cnu monkey off our back.

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 06, 2008, 05:35:29 AM
Pat,

Just finished listening to the broadcast from you and Keith, on which races got clearer, and wanted to answer the question for the 10 karma points. I was not able to log in, so I am writing here in hopes that I am the first to answer.

There was not a mention of USA South, or any teams in the conference.

I did register, but still could not log in.

Even if I am not the first, I am hoping for a couple of points, as I only have 4.

Thanks Pat!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 06, 2008, 10:56:57 AM
It's probably not the first time we haven't mentioned the USA South -- what I'm referring to is much more basic than that. But +2 for you for the effort. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 06, 2008, 11:05:41 AM
Narch,

Methodist University is approximately $30,000 per year ($15,000/semester) the presidential scholarship is $17,000 for one semester for incoming freshman. 15-17=-2. Im good at math too.  ;D

yes methodist is expensive, end of discussion.

My point was never to argue Public v. Private. The original statement that seems to have gotten your panties in a bunch was about why I feel CNU excels in football.

"We give it all. From the guys on the field saturday to the bloodied up scout team."

I never said that the other teams don't try hard each week and work hard in the off season. I was talking about CNU. Nothing about public v. private. I was referring to 100 guys who I know for a fact bust their asses to be the best. CNU wasn't given "mandate from heaven". Our championships were earned by 100 guys coming together for a common goal. NCWC figured out last year that excuses don't win championships. I take my hat off to them.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2008, 04:43:04 PM
football talk - (hate to break up the spirited debate - interesting points by everyone! +1 for everyone as soon as I get around to it)

anyone notice that ODAC team HSC break into the top 25? Their opponents record is a combined 8-16. geez!!

Also - CNU is now 2-1 with the tough non confernece schedule now behind.....all games so far have been on the road with the only loss to a top ranked Salisbury team. 4 of 6 remaining games are at home. CNU's offense needs to start clicking and HOLDING ON TO THE BALL - and the rest of the season could be fun. Even if the Wesley game was played and resulted in a L - a 2-2 record is where I would have had CNU at this point in the schedule.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 06, 2008, 04:48:32 PM
That's probably why they're undefeated and No. 24 behind a bunch of teams that have lost games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on October 06, 2008, 05:59:20 PM
I hate rankings, so im not even worried about who's in the top 25 or not.  What matters the most is the end of the season and taking each game as it comes.  If CNU does what it needs to do and continues to get better every week they will be fine and hopefully make it to the playoffs.  thats what is great about d-3 football, we have a playoffs system which gives everyone a chance to prove themselves on the football field.  my pics this week are:

Averett over methodist- i dont think methodist will win a conference game this year

Maryville over ferrum by a fg

CNU over Greensboro by 3 td's

I'll be a pomoco tailgating like crazy, bring it on CNU alumn and anyone else who wants to join.  We will be set up along the fence line by the old practice field now the new field hockey/lacrose field.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 06, 2008, 06:13:57 PM
I can't wait for Pomoco to come alive. Nothing like the 1st home game of the season. I'm sure I'll see you there 63. Does anyone know the status of Mike Thomas?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Falcon2720 on October 07, 2008, 12:24:40 AM
Crazy,

$30,000 for Methodist includes room and board.

The tuition for MU is $21,000 for the year.

The top Presidential Scholarship numbers are $17,000 for the whole year.  $8500 per semester.

Using your math, you are implying that MU gives students $4000 cash for coming to MU. ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 07, 2008, 11:15:54 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 06, 2008, 11:05:41 AM
yes methodist is expensive, end of discussion.

I thought we were done here.  Methodist is 1-3 pick whatever excuse you like.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on October 07, 2008, 11:44:30 AM
AVERETT WINS BT TWO TD'S

GREENSBORO WINS BY FG IN LOW SCORING GAME

FERRUM OVER THE HILLBILLIES BY 3 TD'S  TO MUCH POWER FOOTBALL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2008, 11:46:29 AM
You don't have to shout. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 07, 2008, 12:31:51 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 06, 2008, 11:05:41 AM
Narch,

Methodist University is approximately $30,000 per year ($15,000/semester) the presidential scholarship is $17,000 for one semester for incoming freshman. 15-17=-2. Im good at math too.  ;D
apparently you don't read so well, though :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on October 07, 2008, 04:04:39 PM
Sorry Pat didnt realize all caps meant shouting. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2008, 04:32:30 PM
Quote from: footballsouthernstyle 1 on October 07, 2008, 11:44:30 AM
GREENSBORO WINS BY FG IN LOW SCORING GAME


:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on October 07, 2008, 05:06:42 PM
Greensboro wins....hahaha thats the funniest thing i have ever heard.  By the way, Drugs are banned from this site.

GO CAPTAINS.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 07, 2008, 05:25:04 PM
crazylegs,

The blog on dailypress has Coach K saying Mike will hopefully play.

http://weblogs.dailypress.com/sports/college/oncampusblog/2008/10/you_take_the_good_you_take_the.html

Hopefully the injuries suffered at the RB position aren't as serious as they first thought.   Losing any of the RB's in the 2-deep at fullback or tailback for CNU would be costly considering all 4 see significant time on offense and factor in on special teams.

Keep improving week-in and week-out Captains and handle Greensboro this weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 07, 2008, 05:27:54 PM
Averett over Methodist - Sorry Meth, it's gonna be a tough year
CNU absolutely pounds Greensboro - yeah SouthernStyle, yall lose bad..., but keep picking against us b/c we keep winning when you do...
Maryville over Ferrum - MC wins by a field goal in another close game w/ Ferrum.  The close games with them seem to be a yearly thing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 07, 2008, 07:52:59 PM
Quote from: footballsouthernstyle 1 on October 07, 2008, 11:44:30 AM

FERRUM OVER THE HILLBILLIES BY 3 TD'S  TO MUCH POWER FOOTBALL

I'm gonna play this one safe and say Hillbillies over the Hillbillies  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 07, 2008, 08:23:13 PM
Ferrum wins!

Methodist

Greensboro


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 07, 2008, 09:58:53 PM
Figured I'd join in with the pick 'ems.

How could anybody pick a private school (Greensboro) over a state school(CNU)? CNU gets to pick any player in america they want and that player will automatically attend CNU. Just being a little facetious(link included for those private school educated folks)
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=facetious
I kill myself. I know the debate over private v. state is over but needed to take one more jab.

Maryville over Ferrum...Maryville looks like one of the strongest teams in the conference this year.

Methodist over Averett...B/c I read kickerdad's post about how bad averett sucks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on October 08, 2008, 08:49:04 AM
With all the CNU people predicting a blow out GC might not even show up. After reading some of the CNU post on the board CNU is just using the C-USA as a tune up for the STAGG BOWL.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 08, 2008, 09:26:37 AM
Cnu alum 9  you said maryville is one of the strongest teams in the conf?  Gc lost to them 17-16 and partly due to a penalty..

GC get the monkey off the back baby!

loss 2 of 3 for cnu
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2008, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 08, 2008, 09:26:37 AM
Cnu alum 9  you said maryville is one of the strongest teams in the conf?  Gc lost to them 17-16 and partly due to a penalty..

GC get the monkey off the back baby!

loss 2 of 3 for cnu

All that means is GC was having a good game plus sloppy field conditions.  And you point to that one penalty being the reason y'all lost?  I am sure there were plenty of questionable calls through out the entire game.  We still had to put the ball in the endzone.  If you want to blame anyone, you should be looking at your guy on the end of the line that let Dustin Locke through to block your extra point.  That really ended up being the difference.  Are you trying to say GC is one of the better teams in the confernce?  The bottom line is that good teams find ways to win. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 08, 2008, 10:40:45 AM
This is one week I can say with certainty, The Bishops will not loose!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2008, 10:45:50 AM
Y'all are gonna take that BYE team behind the woodshed and give them a beat down aren't ya Old Blackbird  ;D :D ;D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 08, 2008, 11:42:05 AM
Im not saying maryville is one of the better teams.. that is for sure
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2008, 12:07:17 PM
Well you did pick GC over CNU so you are living in a dream world.  I guess you are just bound and determined to find some reason GC gets screwed out of a win every time they lose just so you can tell yourself they were actually the better team right?  Heck, we could win the conference and you still wouldn't say we are the better team.  So by your logic NCW must be really bad because we won by double digits over them right, us no being one of the better teams and all?  Actually where do you think Greensboro is ranked in the conference? 2nd? 3rd?

And back to how close our game was, maybe if Lowe decided to show up and have only 3 catches for 22 yards or if you could put up more than 16 points when you start inside our own 50 yard 7 times.  Heck, we even played our QB who was injured and basically couldn't throw.  Or maybe if you could have not let Hightower run all over you, you would have won.  So don't give me this oh we lost because of 1 penalty. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 08, 2008, 12:19:26 PM
Averett's defense  played a great first half last week against Ferrum and the offense showed some bright spots as well.

With that in mind I will pick

Averett over Methodist

CNU over Greensboro

Maryville over Ferrum (this will be a great game to watch)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 08, 2008, 12:29:36 PM
ProudfightingScot, (hereinafter referred to as some shorter version of that name). Narch and Mosh like to blame losing on one variable. (i.e. private school,a single penalty etc.) It's how they do it in dream world.

I like the picks guys. With so many people choosing the same teams and so few games to pick this week, I like the idea of predicting the score or at least the point spread. That way if there is a tie in the picks we can go to the score. Winner at the end of the year gets a beer.

CNU (-18)         35 -- 17   History does not bode well for the pride
M'ville (-11)      28 -- 17   Maryville looking hungry like MR. T in Rocky 3. This team scares me.
Averett  (-3)      10 -- 7   kickerdad's kid comes to the rescue
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2008, 12:45:25 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 08, 2008, 12:29:36 PM
CNU (-18)         35 -- 17   History does not bode well for the pride
M'ville (-11)      28 -- 17   Maryville looking hungry like MR. T in Rocky 3. This team scares me.
Averett  (-3)      10 -- 7   kickerdad's kid comes to the rescue

My picks w/ point spreads...
CNU - I think they will win 38-7
Ferrum - I think this game will come down to a FG personally w/ Maryville winning.  Ferrum is excellent at running the wishbone.  I wouldn't mind missing this pick though and us covering the point spread.
Averett - They put up a tough fight the first part of the Ferrum game last week, so they get the check mark...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 08, 2008, 12:49:17 PM
scot,
so you have averett by one then?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2008, 01:06:56 PM
I think 14-10 Averett over Methodist
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 08, 2008, 02:02:38 PM
Interesting, in the around the region section, The writer has Ferrum and Maryville battling for the number 5 spot in the region. This saturday will surely have championship implications for both of those teams as one loss can sink your boat in this conference. Sorry I can't make it to that game, I have a prior engagement in Newport News...  ;)

I can feel that junky twitch coming on. 70 hours : 58 mintes til CNU takes the field!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 08, 2008, 02:16:43 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 08, 2008, 12:19:26 PM
Averett's defense  played a great first half last week against Ferrum and the offense showed some bright spots as well.

With that in mind I will pick

Averett over Methodist

CNU over Greensboro

Maryville over Ferrum (this will be a great game to watch)



Crazy,

I hate picking scores and points. Kind of like forecasting in the financial world. (reaching up the big black hole and pulling out numbers) at any rate here goes.

Averett 24  Methodist 10

CNU 38  Greensboro 7

Maryville 24  Ferrum 21

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 08, 2008, 03:48:44 PM
gc 45  cnu 0

methodist 24 averett 14

Ferrum 28 maryville 21

proud scot...you have a way with words.
spot on
plus a million karma for getting your panties in a wad
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 08, 2008, 04:14:24 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 08, 2008, 12:29:36 PM
ProudfightingScot, (hereinafter referred to as some shorter version of that name). Narch and Mosh like to blame losing on one variable. (i.e. private school,a single penalty etc.) It's how they do it in dream world.



::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on October 08, 2008, 07:27:23 PM
Averett 17-3 over methodist

Maryville 14-7 over ferrum

CNU 41-10 over greensboro.....Jay Grahm gets 2 30+ fg's.  Greenseboro doesnt score until 2nd and 3rd team gets in.

Crazylegs, cnualumn9, cnu85 and 54 are all invited to the tailgate.....lets get it on game day style.

GO CAPTAINS
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2008, 08:39:18 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 08, 2008, 03:48:44 PM
gc 45  cnu 0

That's funnier than my favorite movie......"Up in Smoke".....similar themes, too!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 08, 2008, 09:00:14 PM
AU wins
So does FC

CNU wins big....some analysis.....
CNU has outscored GC 243-76 in 7 games.....35-11 average. Interesting enough, the first win in CNU history was a 35-10 victory over GC.

At CNU - CNU outscores GC 86-20....29-7 per game.
At GC - CNU outscores GC 157-56, or an average of 39-14

CNU has to figure out some things on offense....The D throws a shutout....31-0 CNU!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 08, 2008, 09:33:26 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2008, 10:45:50 AM
Y'all are gonna take that BYE team behind the woodshed and give them a beat down aren't ya Old Blackbird  ;D :D ;D :D

Nah.... the boys are young. They will learn that to win, you have to play consistant. You guys played a good game. Good luck this week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 08, 2008, 09:47:01 PM
Rad.

We need to catch up in those totals.  Thats why the 45-0 score is going to be awesome for us!

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2008, 10:26:19 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 08, 2008, 12:29:36 PM
ProudfightingScot, (hereinafter referred to as some shorter version of that name). Narch and Mosh like to blame losing on one variable. (i.e. private school,a single penalty etc.) It's how they do it in dream world.
untrue...i've repeatedly blamed the monarchs record this season on their inability to run the ball and their inability to stop the run...that's two reasons...i'm seriously starting to question the math department at cnu :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2008, 10:31:15 PM
Quote from: Old Blackbird on October 08, 2008, 09:33:26 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2008, 10:45:50 AM
Y'all are gonna take that BYE team behind the woodshed and give them a beat down aren't ya Old Blackbird  ;D :D ;D :D

Nah.... the boys are young. They will learn that to win, you have to play consistant. You guys played a good game. Good luck this week.

It all goes in cycles anyways...  Yall are down a little this year and we are up.  Next year who knows...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 08, 2008, 10:39:18 PM
The over and under in the CNU/GC game might be 45 or so, but I just don't see Greensboro pulling it out on the road in CNU's first home game of the season.  Sorry Pride, but I have to say Captains by something like 35-10.  If I'm wrong, I'll take my lumps.

Guilford does not have a game this week, so I'll be closely watching the ODAC and USAS scores.  It'll be interesting to see who wins AU/MU as well as MC/FC!  HSC appears to be the solid frontrunner for the ODAC while the USAS seems to be up for grabs ... it'll be more clear on Sunday!  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 09, 2008, 02:45:13 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 27, 2008, 09:56:09 PM
Any team could have won really.  Really messy field conditions from what the video showed...

Go Scots 1-0 in the conference!!!!

PFS (formerly known as ProudfightingScot)

Like you said, "any team could have won" in the MU/GC game and MU got the call in the endzone. No excuses, GC should not have left it in the hands of the ref - that always comes back to bite us - especially at home!! No one to blame but ourselves.


Hirsch40 (formerly known as crazylegs33)

Here are my humble picks:

Averett 17-14 over Methodist = Monarchs seem to be struggling - hopefully they'll still be struggling when they play the PRIDE

Maryville 10-0 over Ferrum = The Scots do have a very good defense

GC 10-9 over CNU - Sorry, just can't bring myself to pick over my son . . . . .  ;)  and I believe in miracles!  8)

I think the ride home from Newport News is ALWAYS the longest of the year . . . . .  :'(


                 Roll Pride!!

BONUS: Panthers 31  Bucs  10



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 09, 2008, 09:47:45 AM
newbie,
I liked your PFS abbreviation, I even got a kick out of the Elroy Hirsch. I could even let you slide with the pick against CNU. But bringing my Buccaneers into the mix? Thats too much man. too much.   :D Who told you I was a bucs fan? I bet it was narch. He knows everything.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2008, 01:20:22 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 09, 2008, 09:47:45 AMnarch. He knows everything.
finally you and i agree on something :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on October 09, 2008, 01:22:18 PM
Any idea what weather will be like on Saturday there at CNU?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 09, 2008, 01:41:59 PM
Sunny and 76 degrees is what I heard last
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on October 09, 2008, 08:08:06 PM
I dont know if anyone on here knows the answer to this but i have been wondering for quite some time now.  Why dont they do pre season all conference awards? I know division 1 schools do and i was wondering why d3 schools dont.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: unbiasedmajority on October 10, 2008, 12:39:05 AM
It would be very difficult to conduct a Pre-Season All USAS due to the harsh turnover rate year by year. Some kids leave for financial reasons or personal reasons or to transfer out such as the talented CNU WR from last season who last I heard left for ODU. Unless the vote was conducted after the first week of Pre-Season Camp. I definitely agree and think it would be a good suggestion and possible thought for the future.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 10, 2008, 12:46:06 AM
Quote from: unbiasedmajority on October 10, 2008, 12:39:05 AM
Unless the vote was conducted after the first week of Pre-Season Camp.

And at that point, you'd probably be looking at a third party to make the picks because my guess is that there's not a coach out there who would want to be spending his time voting to highlight other teams' athletes when he should be on the field working with his own.

If something like this would ever take place, maybe SIDs would fill the void? A media panel? Narch, CNU85 and a handful of darts?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 10, 2008, 07:51:06 AM
As far as preseason awards go.  You never really know what you have coming back year to year in DIII to do that.  It would be nice, but just not really realistic. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: @d3jason on October 10, 2008, 08:06:53 AM
Quote from: cnufan on October 09, 2008, 08:08:06 PM
I dont know if anyone on here knows the answer to this but i have been wondering for quite some time now.  Why dont they do pre season all conference awards? I know division 1 schools do and i was wondering why d3 schools dont.

An offensive and defensive player of the year would be easy to pick since the top players usually return. I know that the America Southwest picks preseason players of the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 10, 2008, 10:42:23 AM
Quote from: Conrad on October 10, 2008, 08:06:53 AM
An offensive and defensive player of the year would be easy to pick since the top players usually return.

Unfortuntely, I don't even think this is even a safe thing to say. If you would've asked me in July, I very likely would have chosen CNU's Jesse Bradshaw as the offensive player of the year. But as we all know, despite being a great player, he didn't come back to the school. D-III just has so many variables, from money and desire to academics and injury.

Another example is last year for Kickoff 2007 in the ODAC, I had picked H-SC's then-quarterback to the be the breakout player of the year for the conference. That was just days before Week 1. Then things went down just before the start of the season, and that player didn't play. Sure, a H-SC quarterback was the bearkout player of the year, just not to the QB that I picked  :) :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 10, 2008, 01:00:50 PM
I don't like the idea of rewarding a player before the season. End of the season rewards are good enough for me.

I just wanna know what the possibility of getting a fake birth certificate/ SS# so I can go back and play four more years. Maybe I could return to a different USA south team as Fernando Carlos Jorge Alberto Santiago Jones.  :-\

Seriously though, when I get my papers straight. I coming back!

24 hours til kickoff
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 10, 2008, 01:34:05 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on October 10, 2008, 12:46:06 AM
Quote from: unbiasedmajority on October 10, 2008, 12:39:05 AM
Unless the vote was conducted after the first week of Pre-Season Camp.

And at that point, you'd probably be looking at a third party to make the picks because my guess is that there's not a coach out there who would want to be spending his time voting to highlight other teams' athletes when he should be on the field working with his own.

If something like this would ever take place, maybe SIDs would fill the void? A media panel? Narch, CNU85 and a handful of darts?

Narch - he called us Darts! Is that good?  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 10, 2008, 03:39:42 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on October 10, 2008, 10:42:23 AM
Quote from: Conrad on October 10, 2008, 08:06:53 AM
An offensive and defensive player of the year would be easy to pick since the top players usually return.

Unfortuntely, I don't even think this is even a safe thing to say. If you would've asked me in July, I very likely would have chosen CNU's Jesse Bradshaw as the offensive player of the year. But as we all know, despite being a great player, he didn't come back to the school. D-III just has so many variables, from money and desire to academics and injury.

Another example is last year for Kickoff 2007 in the ODAC, I had picked H-SC's then-quarterback to the be the breakout player of the year for the conference. That was just days before Week 1. Then things went down just before the start of the season, and that player didn't play. Sure, a H-SC quarterback was the bearkout player of the year, just not to the QB that I picked  :) :-\

Who is that Crazy Ryan Tipps guy posting on here??? Man does he even know what he is talking about?!?  Ha ha!! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 10, 2008, 04:03:22 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 10, 2008, 03:39:42 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on October 10, 2008, 10:42:23 AM
Quote from: Conrad on October 10, 2008, 08:06:53 AM
An offensive and defensive player of the year would be easy to pick since the top players usually return.

Unfortuntely, I don't even think this is even a safe thing to say. If you would've asked me in July, I very likely would have chosen CNU's Jesse Bradshaw as the offensive player of the year. But as we all know, despite being a great player, he didn't come back to the school. D-III just has so many variables, from money and desire to academics and injury.

Another example is last year for Kickoff 2007 in the ODAC, I had picked H-SC's then-quarterback to the be the breakout player of the year for the conference. That was just days before Week 1. Then things went down just before the start of the season, and that player didn't play. Sure, a H-SC quarterback was the bearkout player of the year, just not to the QB that I picked  :) :-\

Who is that Crazy Ryan Tipps guy posting on here??? Man does he even know what he is talking about?!?  Ha ha!! 

Look at his pic on ATR....the bottle is not as full...he's been "partaking"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 10, 2008, 04:04:46 PM
Got an email this morning from CNU athletic department. tomorrow's game is SOLD OUT! You can get standing room only tickets at the gate!! The house is gonna be packed!!!!!!!!! Finally, after 350 days...a home game!!! POMOCO will be rocking!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 10, 2008, 04:22:29 PM
Yes!

A big crowd to see the upset!

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on October 10, 2008, 04:46:18 PM
What is the CNU stadium capacity?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 10, 2008, 04:53:08 PM
5226, according to D3football.com (http://www.d3football.com/school/CNU/2008).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 10, 2008, 08:03:13 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 10, 2008, 04:53:08 PM
5226, according to D3football.com (http://www.d3football.com/school/CNU/2008).
That's incorrect, the capacity is listed at 4,200 in the media guide. I do know they've added quite a few bleachers (obviously) for tomorrow's contest. Could end up being in the 5500 range would be my guess. All the seats are gone, as CNU85 mentioned.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 11, 2008, 03:25:25 AM

WOW!! I did not realize that Greensboro College football was so popular in Virginia!!  Way to go Pride!! ;D

Now - who is it we're playing?  ;)                     jk :-*


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 11, 2008, 08:55:27 AM
today will tell me a lot about the monarchs for the rest of the season...a nice win today would make me feel a whole lot better and give me hope for mu at least playing a spoiler roll...a loss today and i think it signals that the monarchs will only be favored in one game going forward - unfortunately it's fall break and there probably won't be many monarch fans on-hand to see it (including myself...i'll be watching my daughter cheer on the mighty-mite yellowjackets :)...at least it's football, right?)

monarchs...run it well and stop the run
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 11, 2008, 01:49:37 PM
The Pride just recovered a fumble and is mounting a comeback after being down 13-0.

About 10:00 left in 2nd QTR:

CNU   13
GC       6

CNU QB has been replaced by a freshman . . . .
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 11, 2008, 02:36:42 PM
0-0 Maryville vs. Ferrum start of 2nd quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 11, 2008, 02:53:46 PM
MC/FC Game
7-7 3 minutes left in the 2nd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 11, 2008, 03:06:09 PM
MC and FC tied at 7 at halftime
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 11, 2008, 03:25:33 PM

Nine minutes left in the game - GC takes over on downs . . . .


Comeback time!!!   ;D


CNU   40
GC       7

???        :-\       :-[          :'(

Good luck CNU for the rest of the season . . .

and I don't think anyone will blame this one on the refs . . . .

Roll Pride!!   :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 11, 2008, 03:39:56 PM
not sure what happened but MC's QB Hunt is out of the game.  Got hurt.  Not sure what it is.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 11, 2008, 03:57:42 PM
10-7 Ferrum w/ 2:45 left in the 3rd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 11, 2008, 04:10:06 PM
17-7 Ferrum start of 4th
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on October 11, 2008, 04:10:44 PM
Final:

Averett 31  Methodist 17
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 11, 2008, 04:13:30 PM
17-10 Ferrum 13 minutes left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 11, 2008, 04:33:58 PM
Ferrum 24
M'ville 10


FINAL!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 11, 2008, 04:45:24 PM
24-10 final in the MC Ferrum game
Congrats Ferrum
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 11, 2008, 04:57:04 PM
CNU looked pretty solid today all around. A thing of beauty. TD's through the air, TD's on the ground. Defense shut the run down and hassled the QB all day. Keep it up boys and bring on Maryville.


This is what the conference looks like at the moment

Ferrum          3-0
C.N.U.            2-0
Maryville        2-1
Averett           1-1
NCWC             1-1
Greensboro     0-2
Shenandoah   0-2

Methuhdist     0-2

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 11, 2008, 07:33:10 PM
Captains come away with a win against a Greensboro team that I can't say anything positive about.  Still I don't think CNU has played a solid game yet this season. Score could have very easily been 60+ to 0.  When your first 2 possessions start inside the 50 and you only come away with 2 field goals, that won't suffice against a decent team let alone a good one.  Good thing CNU is a state school and 5,000+ people come to support them or I don't think they could have pulled it out against the high powered attack of Greensboro. At times it looked like their offense was just praying that CNU would get a penalty to gain a first down.

I take back not being able to say anything positive about Greensboro because I was impressed with the play of Brick Crowder(spelling). He's a tough kid that makes a lot of plays and he has to because Greensboro's D had to have been on the field for 75% of the game.

Good luck Captains next week at Maryville and congrats to Ferrum and Averett on their wins today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on October 11, 2008, 09:14:34 PM
Congrats to my boys from CNU, big win today fellas.  Wish I wouldve been there.  Celebrate tonight and start getting ready for the boys from Tennessee. 

Crazylegs, how did i fare in the pic ems. I think i mightve done pretty well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 11, 2008, 10:01:58 PM
...well, the monarchs ran the ball well today with 182 yards on 29 carries...unfortunately they didn't stop the run (au had 191) and they turned the ball over 4 times (all interceptions)...i just hope these boys don't mail it in for the rest of the season
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 11, 2008, 10:20:34 PM
cnu63,  you did ok. You got 2 out of 3. Like most people you had M'ville winning. I blew that one too. PFS and CNU85 got em all. I went back through and added up all the picks since I started posting the pick ems. 63 I don't think you made picks the 1st week I ran a pick em so youre a bit behind. But your percentage is high (5 of 6). I got bored so, here's the year totals:

                          Total              win%          100%
PFS                       12                 100              3
Crazylegs               8                   67
FBsouthernStyle    8                   67
KickerDad              8                   67
CNU63                  6                   86                1
CNU85                  3                   100              1
Narc                      2                   40
Mosh                     2                   25
Newbie                  1                   33
CNUalum9             1                   33

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 12, 2008, 07:39:16 AM
     Congrats to Ferrum. Good win for the Panthers yesterday. I knew it would be a battle but I thought the Scots would make the plays in the 2nd half when they needed to. Instead, Mayo made the plays. The kid can play!! He made numerous big plays yesterday purely on athletic ability. IMO...take him off the field and the game might still be going on.  ;D
     Looking forward to seeing Legends Rock, old friends and teammates, and the Fighting Scots take on CNU next Saturday. It will take a huge effort to beat a very good CNU team.
     
     * Note to CNU players and coaches. Ya'll take the week off. Get in a trip down to VA Beach. Go ahead and start celebrating being USA South champs. The Scots probably won't even show up. And that tired feeling you will get Saturday has nothing at all to do with the long, long, extremely exhausting bus ride down to "hillbilly" land.  :D
     Go Scots!!
     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 12, 2008, 10:09:55 AM
Sky, Ill pass the message on to Kelchner and the boys.

Conference play in in full stride this weekend with 4 games going.

CNU @ Maryville.................................CNU by 18

Shenandoah @ Greensboro.................SU by 14

Averett @ NCWC................................NCWC by 10

Ferrum @ Methodist...........................Ferrum by 21
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 12, 2008, 11:15:43 AM
After yesterdays results, the race for the title could be very interesting. Congrats to CNU for a big win!
CNU85, Your prediction was almost perfect, good job.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 12, 2008, 11:37:50 AM
I dont want to count any chickens prematurly, but I am curious about something....Lets say that the Conference title comes down to the last week with the Ferrum/CNU game. Could the loser get an at large bid?

I am guessing that CNU would, if they lost, have a better shot at the bid, than Ferrum would if they lost.  ?????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 12, 2008, 11:44:20 AM
Quote from: Allen C on October 12, 2008, 11:37:50 AM
I dont want to count any chickens prematurly, but I am curious about something....Lets say that the Conference title comes down to the last week with the Ferrum/CNU game. Could the loser get an at large bid?

I am guessing that CNU would, if they lost, have a better shot at the bid, than Ferrum would if they lost.  ?????


     I am certainly not in the know like Tipps, Pat, Keith, and a few other D3 intellectuals but I would say most likely the USA South champ is the only one that will get in regardless of who wins.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 12, 2008, 12:21:04 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 12, 2008, 11:37:50 AM
I dont want to count any chickens prematurly, but I am curious about something....Lets say that the Conference title comes down to the last week with the Ferrum/CNU game. Could the loser get an at large bid?

I am guessing that CNU would, if they lost, have a better shot at the bid, than Ferrum would if they lost.  ?????

Assuming both teams win out until this game, the loser would have a second loss.  I think it's a lock that no USAS team with two losses would get an at-large bid ... there are two many other good teams nationally and the USAS is not considered a "power" conference.  In my opinion, the league champ will get the AQ and everyone else will watch from home.   :-\ 

PS  Same is true in the ODAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 12, 2008, 04:54:20 PM
Hasa nailed it. The strength of schedule for the USA South in general just isn't impressive enough to make the No. 2 team a real contender for a Pool C.

It would be a different story if Ferrum would've beaten E&H in Week 1. That would have given them (undefeated through nine weeks) a very reasonable shot at a Pool C if they'd wind up losing against CNU, but two blemishes is a tough thing to overcome -- and there are numerous good teams in recent years that have been left out of the dance because of a two-loss scenario.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2008, 07:45:00 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 10, 2008, 04:53:08 PM
5226, according to D3football.com (http://www.d3football.com/school/CNU/2008).

That's enrollment. Capacity per d3football.com and CNU media guide as Riki mentioned is 4200. I'm glad they added bleachers on Saturday. It was needed. It was good to see a crowd of 5,016. Fifth largest in CNU history. Weather was great. CNU played well in many aspects. Too many penalties for both teams. CNU found yet another RB. Legister is the real deal, and big! Gaines played well at QB. Imagine towards the end of the season with more games under his belt being able to have Long back on D!!!!!!!
Who knows?

I think the 2 QB system is working well. Long has a lot of poise and confidence. He doesn't get rattled.

Defense looked good again. In my meaningless opinion #49 Nate Williams is All-American material. He's in on almost every play and on special teams he is all over the place.

Speaking of All-Americans, I was able to tailgate with Rob Rodriguez. I've never had a chance to talk to him before. As good a player as he was, he's even a better person. Super nice guy, down to earth. Intelligent. I could tell right away those factors helped him on the field. He knew what was going on, often before it happened. It's  no wonder the Chiefs took a look at him even though he was out of football for a year.

Just some ramblings.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2008, 07:55:31 PM
nice pics of the game...

http://www.cnusports.com/News/football/2008/10/11/fb101108.asp?path=football (http://www.cnusports.com/News/football/2008/10/11/fb101108.asp?path=football)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 12, 2008, 07:59:11 PM
Quote from: Old Blackbird on October 12, 2008, 11:15:43 AM
After yesterdays results, the race for the title could be very interesting. Congrats to CNU for a big win!
CNU85, Your prediction was almost perfect, good job.

thanks....now if I could do a little better with my fantasy league!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 12, 2008, 09:24:39 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 12, 2008, 07:55:31 PM
nice pics of the game...

http://www.cnusports.com/News/football/2008/10/11/fb101108.asp?path=football (http://www.cnusports.com/News/football/2008/10/11/fb101108.asp?path=football)

Wow, some great pix!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 12, 2008, 11:16:48 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 12, 2008, 07:45:00 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 10, 2008, 04:53:08 PM
5226, according to D3football.com (http://www.d3football.com/school/CNU/2008).

That's enrollment. Capacity per d3football.com and CNU media guide as Riki mentioned is 4200. I'm glad they added bleachers on Saturday. It was needed. It was good to see a crowd of 5,016. Fifth largest in CNU history. Weather was great. CNU played well in many aspects. Too many penalties for both teams. CNU found yet another RB. Legister is the real deal, and big! Gaines played well at QB. Imagine towards the end of the season with more games under his belt being able to have Long back on D!!!!!!!
Who knows?

I think the 2 QB system is working well. Long has a lot of poise and confidence. He doesn't get rattled.

Defense looked good again. In my meaningless opinion #49 Nate Williams is All-American material. He's in on almost every play and on special teams he is all over the place.

Speaking of All-Americans, I was able to tailgate with Rob Rodriguez. I've never had a chance to talk to him before. As good a player as he was, he's even a better person. Super nice guy, down to earth. Intelligent. I could tell right away those factors helped him on the field. He knew what was going on, often before it happened. It's  no wonder the Chiefs took a look at him even though he was out of football for a year.

Just some ramblings.....

5226 isnt even the enrollment now! Its about 47 or 4800.

PS Legister reminds me Brandon Jacobs, tall and HUGE!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 12, 2008, 11:18:50 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on October 12, 2008, 09:24:39 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 12, 2008, 07:55:31 PM
nice pics of the game...

http://www.cnusports.com/News/football/2008/10/11/fb101108.asp?path=football (http://www.cnusports.com/News/football/2008/10/11/fb101108.asp?path=football)

Wow, some great pix!

Jesse Hutcheson is the real deal. The kid knows his stuff, he's only a junior at CNU and at age 21 he's made a pretty good name for himself, not with just sports photos but he's also done a lot of other photography as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 13, 2008, 10:52:48 AM
We've used a couple of Jesse's photos on the site and I agree.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 14, 2008, 12:04:28 PM
Congratulations to the Averett Cougars on their win this past Saturday against another fine team, Methodist University.

They reminded me of the 2006 squad  that shared the conference title with CNU. They were hitting on all cyclinders across the board. Hopefully this will carry over to NCWC this week. Everyone looked good.

For the Methodist guys, thanks for the hospitality, the food was good, weather was nice, seats were comfortable and your fans were great. We really enjoyed the trip. Felt a little uncomfortable sitting on the same side but there was no issues. Your folks were very nice. I was also impressed with your team doctor and training staff when 2 Averett players when down in the 4th quarter (at the same time) and one was knocked out for a short while. It happened on the Methodist side and your folks were there before the referee could blow the whistle, attending them. Your head coach is a first class act as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 15, 2008, 09:25:22 AM
For the NCWC faithful -

National Weather Service's long range forecast is calling for temps in low 60's and 50% chance of rain in Rocky Mount on Saturday. Are your local forecasters there predicting the same thing? I see where your game location has changed from the Sports Complex to a local high school. What are the seating arrangments - bleachers on both sides, or what?

We love to tailgate and I can tolerate the cold but wind and rain make it a little unpleasant. Does this new place allow tailgating? We may be doing the early morning Cracker Barrel thing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 16, 2008, 09:34:26 AM
 
Quote from: kickerdad on October 15, 2008, 09:25:22 AM
For the NCWC faithful -

National Weather Service's long range forecast is calling for temps in low 60's and 50% chance of rain in Rocky Mount on Saturday. Are your local forecasters there predicting the same thing? I see where your game location has changed from the Sports Complex to a local high school. What are the seating arrangments - bleachers on both sides, or what?

We love to tailgate and I can tolerate the cold but wind and rain make it a little unpleasant. Does this new place allow tailgating? We may be doing the early morning Cracker Barrel thing.
Kickerdad,  to answer your question about NCWC's temperary facilities, You will be able to tail gate and it does offer seating on both sides of the field. As far as the weather.... in the 60's with AM chance of showers. Should be good football weather....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: unbiasedmajority on October 16, 2008, 11:31:17 AM
Well the mid-point of the season has hit and wanted to spark up a little conversational piece here.

Name and describe your thoughts on the top three players at the following positions in the USAS through the midpoint of the season. Do not name players off of last year and potential, solely off of their play on the field through the first 5 or 6 games.

QB, RB, WR, TE, DE, DT, LB, DB, K, P, Return Specialist

Just thought this would receive some good feedback and see where these players rank at seasons end as voted by the coaches.

Thanks,

UBM
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 16, 2008, 09:20:05 PM
Nice thought, unbi - here are few I know of that could make this a winning season for the Pride!

WR = Torrey Lowe

LB = Brick Crowder

DB = Andreas Platt

Return Specialist = Torrey Lowe

;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 16, 2008, 10:02:55 PM
The QB position is especially hard for picking a top one ... let alone a top three. :-[ Here's why:

CNU has been flipping back and forth between Long and Gaines. And Ferrum also has been using two players, Mayo and Dobson, consistently throughout the season.

That has dilluted their stats considerably, making none of those players really stand out above the crowd -- even if they are skilled and successful on the field.

One other contender might have been Hunt, Maryville's star frosh, but he was injured last week. Not sure how long he's out for.

Bottom line: Is it safe to say that with the graduations of Townsend, Faison and Parks, there's no QB(s) who's truely heads above the others in the conference?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 16, 2008, 11:14:29 PM
Sound logic on the QB Ryan, but I really believe that you will see Mayo rise to the top of the USAS. If not this year then next year. He is a talent that will surprise a lot of people.  (I know I am biased, but this guy is very good,)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2008, 11:23:27 PM
So far my vote for QB is Mayo from Ferrum.  Was the difference in the Maryville-Ferrum game.  Our defense had a hard tackling him and is scary in the open field.  Also, Ferrum's NG was a dominate player during the game.....

In 4 years, Lowe has not had a big game against MC.  Caught 3 passes for 23 yards earlier this year against the Fighting Scots.....

Top players for Maryville

RB - Hightower

WR - Idelette

OL - Browning

DL - Clancy, Harris, Rutgerson

LB - Chewning

DB - Locke

PK - Daniell
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 17, 2008, 12:30:47 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2008, 11:23:27 PM

In 4 years, Lowe has not had a big game against MC.  Caught 3 passes for 23 yards earlier this year against the Fighting Scots.....


Yes, against Maryville Lowe only had 23 yards on 3 catches, a credit to a tough Scot defense. However he scored on one of those catches in a close 22-13 game. He also had two punt returns for 50 yards and two kickoff returns for 57 yards for a total of 130 yards. Maybe not a big game, but gave the Pride a good shot at a win. :-\


Last two games for Brick Crowder = Maryville: 6 Solo  8 Assists  14 Total and CNU: 4 solo 10 Assists 14 Total
 
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . and you gotta love a LB named BRICK ! ! ! ! :o



ROLL PRIDE ! ! ! !

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 17, 2008, 05:10:24 AM
Yeah,
Brick is a great name, but his last name is cool too!

Allen C......(Crowder)  no relation :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 17, 2008, 01:44:59 PM

CNU @ Maryville..............................   ...Maryville by 3    Upset of week

Shenandoah @ Greensboro.................Shenandoah by 14

Averett   @ NCWC................................Averett by 10     

Ferrum @ Methodist...........................Ferrum by 13        Methodist is better than their record
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on October 17, 2008, 02:22:33 PM
CNU BIG OVER THE hillbillies BY 23

GC OVER SU BY 6

NCWC OVER AVERETT BY 12

FERRUM OVER MU BY 19
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3football101 on October 17, 2008, 02:53:28 PM
T Lowe makes plays... thats the bottom line.  Without him Greensboro would have trouble winning games this year.  He could be on there for WR or ST

I heard from one of my Maryville sources that their QB Hunt is out this week with a concussion he suffered against Ferrum.  I have seen Maryville play twice this year and in one of them he threw 3 Tds and ran for another throwing for over 300 yards.  I know he has had other statistically average games but he has had no trouble finding the endzone this year... 7 TDs throwing and 4 Tds rushing.  And Maryville is a whole different team when he is on the field.  If he could stay healthy he would be my vote for QB uncontested.  Also just a freshman.

Mayo is the other QB you gotta consider.  Sounds like he had a great game against MC last week.
Also Jordan from NCWC Has already thrown for over 1000 yards... however he has 9 INT to go with 6 TD.  The Qb position will be a close race.

RB  This conference has so many good Rbs, Ogun, Hightower, Roberts... I cant pick one

WR.. Persnally I think the kid from Averett is a stud I cant remember his name at the time.  Also good is T Lowe and Idlette the freshman from maryville, Webb from CNU and Methodist has two good ones.  Any of these guys.

Go USA South
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 17, 2008, 03:22:18 PM
Maryville over CNU by 3 - Pulling for the upset
SU over Greensboro by 7 - Greensboro remains a cellar dweller and still racking up L's in the USA South
NCWC over Averett by 17 - I think Averett will put up a fight in the 1st half and NCWC will pull away in the 2nd
Ferrum over Methodist by 21 - Just too much size and speed on Ferrum's side
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: unbiasedmajority on October 17, 2008, 04:00:08 PM
I am the unbiased majority and I do believe that everyone did not get the whole idea of my post. It was not for each fan to tell the best players from their team. It is not possible for all the best players to be on one team. That is why I am unbiased!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 17, 2008, 05:10:19 PM
Well seeing as we are only half way through the year and most fans have probably only seen 2 other teams in the conference in action it is going to be hard for us to come up with the best players in the conference don't ya think???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: unbiasedmajority on October 17, 2008, 07:37:26 PM
Well all things considered, everyone in this room speaks as if they are the foremost authority on the conference anyway. Statistically speaking then.....lets rank them on production.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 17, 2008, 09:07:09 PM
If we're simply ranking them on production, the conference stats can be found here (http://www.usasouth.net/statistics/M-foot/2008/confldrs.htm#conf.wi2).  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 17, 2008, 09:59:34 PM
With all things considered this group is probably the foremost authority of the USAS but each of us are the authority on a different team....show me another fan who knows as much about CNU football as CNU85....Averett football as kickerdad...Pride football as Mosh...Monarch football as Narch and so on.  Pat and Ryan are probably the closest thing to an authority of all teams and Pat C is an authority on every team in D3 and I'm not sure how you do it Pat.

The point is, at this stage of the season there is no way to judge players against each other.  Even using stats isn't accurate as one player may have played a tougher schedule than another thus causing his stats to be lower...so if you want to be the true "unbiased majority" wait til the end of the year and judge each player off conference games only.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 17, 2008, 11:49:19 PM
Hey, what about me??? I played ball 4 years for CNU an I dont get included??? Thats messed up man!

It's 11:43 right now and I'm pretty drunk. I got a girl who is willing yo drive me to Murrville, so Tennessee here I come!!!!!

GO CNU!!!!!!! BEAT THE MARYS!!!!!!!!!

PS~ Where is everyone's pickems????


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 18, 2008, 09:28:30 AM

CNU 18-7 over Maryville (did I hear the Scots QB is out?)  8)

Greensboro  16-10 over Shenandoah  :o  The Pride go to 3-3 . . .

NCWC 28-24 over AVERETT  :-\

FERRUM 19-14 over Methodist   ???


BONUS PICK: Tampa Bay over the Carolina Panthers 27-3  >:(




You happy now, Crazy?!? - - - - - - - - stupic cats


ROLL PRIDE !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: unbiasedmajority on October 18, 2008, 10:39:42 AM
Just because someone goes to every home game does not make them the foremost authority on their team.  How many people in this room goes to EVERY GAME and a good number of PRACTICES. I apologize for shaking up everyones comfort zone, I guess I will wait till the end of the season to ask this question.....and get the same result, people voting for all members of their team at every position.

Picks for the week:

CNU - 31
MC - 13

Ferrum - 35
Methodist - 21

GC - 28
SU - 17

AU - 38
NCWC - 35

High Scoring Week in the USAS
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2008, 10:40:31 AM
Maryville 24-21 in OT over CNU    Home field Advantage!
Shenandoah over GC 20-14     Hornets are better than their record
NCW over Averett 24-7      NCW is better than one may think.
Ferrum over Methodist 34-10      Too much Panther "O" vs. Too little Monarch "D"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 18, 2008, 11:05:23 AM
cnu 45   mville 14

fc 42  mc 14

gc28   su 21

ncw 35 au 21


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2008, 01:36:16 PM
Methodist 7
Ferrum 6

2nd qtr.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2008, 01:47:10 PM
Ferrum 12

Methodist 7


First xp was blocked, and second was a 2 pt. conversion. Center stepped on the FC QB foot, as he pulled out from center.  NG
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2008, 01:51:18 PM
Methodist Offense is really looking good. Ferrum D is off balance.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2008, 02:07:58 PM
MU has 147 yards passing
still in first half
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 02:09:24 PM
First CNU game I haven't been a part of or attended since my senior year of high school in fall '02 is off to a good start.

CNU got the ball to start the game and 5 plays later, Tunde Ogun takes it up the middle for a 37 yard TD.

Maryville is driving though with their back-up QB starting.

Let's go Captains!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2008, 02:11:33 PM
Ferrum 12
Methodist 7

Halftime
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 02:19:56 PM
Maryville's first drive ended with an INT in the enzone on 3rd and goal from the 2.

CNU's 2nd drive ends with a 53 yard TD pass by my bro Matt Long to Ray Grienke.

CNU 14-0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 02:26:41 PM
Tunde Ogun 17 yard TD run.

CNU 21-0 with :25 left in the first quarter.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 02:48:19 PM
Any updates on other conference games?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 18, 2008, 03:00:05 PM
NC Wesleyan leads Averett 28-9, start of the third.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2008, 03:05:26 PM
Ferrum 19
Methodist 13

End of 3rd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2008, 03:08:43 PM
Panthers Driving...at the Monarch's 5 but get a penalty for O holding.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 03:09:06 PM
CNU 24
Maryville 7

Halftime
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2008, 03:11:32 PM
Ferrum 25

Methodist 13

Second xp blocked today
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2008, 03:35:40 PM
Ferrum 31

Methodist 13

3 xp's blocked by MU. This must be a record. I have never heard of any thing like it.  I feel sure its a USAS record.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2008, 03:45:20 PM
Ferrum 31
Methodist U. 13

Final

Not a real great game for Ferrum, but a win is a win.

Methodist is a better team than their record shows.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 04:02:23 PM
CNU 24-10 End of 3rd

CNU recovered a Maryville fumble in Maryville territory on the last play of the 3rd quarter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 04:11:08 PM
31-17 CNU with 13:17 to play.

Tunde scored his 3rd TD of the game on the third play of the 4th quarter and then Maryville responded with 2 screen passes to Hightower and the second for a TD of their own.

Ogun has 210 yards rushing so far.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2008, 04:18:01 PM
Are the CNU home game tickets available for reservation/will call? How about online purchase?

Can someone provide the info./phone #?

I cannot find it on the CNU website.

Thanks!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 04:24:01 PM
Allen C,

Wish I could help you, but I have no idea. I don't see anywhere on the website to buy tickets other than season tickets.  Your best bet is to get tickets through Ferrum's ticket list if you are referring to attending the CNU/Ferrum game at the end of the season.  Almost all games are "sold out," but tickets will still be sold at the gate.  So if you're worried about getting turned down, you won't be.  UNLESS you wear Ferrum gear that is.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 04:25:36 PM
CNU 38-17 with 6:38 to play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 18, 2008, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 04:24:01 PM
Allen C,

Wish I could help you, but I have no idea. I don't see anywhere on the website to buy tickets other than season tickets.  Your best bet is to get tickets through Ferrum's ticket list if you are referring to attending the CNU/Ferrum game at the end of the season.  Almost all games are "sold out," but tickets will still be sold at the gate.  So if you're worried about getting turned down, you won't be.  UNLESS you wear Ferrum gear that is.

DUDE!! I know you pay more attention to the website then that! Its plain as day on the main page on the top right! "BUY YOUR TICKETS NOW PRINT YOUR TICKETS FROM HOME" You can buy tickets for any remaining home game at any time, you dont have to wait for the week of.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 04:29:41 PM
Rikki_T_T,

Good call. I only looked at the Football page, not the athletics home. I've never paid to get into a game so wouldn't know how to go about it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 04:32:30 PM
Maryville just cut the CNU lead to 38-24 with 2:43 left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 04:38:43 PM
Gaines fumbles for CNU and Maryville returns it for a TD and cuts the CNU lead to 38-31 with less than 2 minutes to play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on October 18, 2008, 04:40:17 PM
I hear ya niner! 38-31 now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 04:44:55 PM
Onside kick goes out of bounds though and after a first down, the Captains take a knee.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 18, 2008, 04:45:46 PM
NCWC 48, Averett 24      1min. to go!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2008, 04:46:36 PM
CNU 38
Maryville 31

Final.

Congrats to the Captains, NCW and Ferrum for their wins today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 18, 2008, 04:55:59 PM
Correction, NCWC 49, Averett 24   Final .... I am sure the Averett fans will agree, I have no idea where they found the officials today.  Terrible on both sides of the ball. Made for an interesting game...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 18, 2008, 09:42:54 PM
just got a look at the mu/fc box score/game story and it looks like the monarchs didn't have enough to hold on in the 4th quarter...which follows a bit of a trend of mu giving up lots of 4th quarter points this season - another trend...giving up lots of yards on the ground (369) and having trouble running it (53) - it looks like the monarchs were game for the better part of 3 quarters today, though...now they need to sustain that effort over 4 quarters...they've got a tall task coming up next weekend with the captains...a big-time upset would sure feel nice :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 19, 2008, 12:02:14 AM
Narch, I hope your guys pull it out.

A win would be nice.

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 19, 2008, 01:44:22 AM
Well . . . . .  not a pleasant night for The Pride.  :'(

After spotting Shenandoah 14 points in the first quarter on turnovers and a bad snap to the GC punter, The Pride came back to tie it by halftime - 14 to 14. GC blocked a FG try at the end of the first half.  ;D

Thats where the game ended - or should have ended.  :-\

The second half was full of GC penalties, turnovers, failed fake punt and just some poor play. The Pride played hard until the end, but just didn't have enough to overcome mistakes. Kudos to the Hornets for taking advantage.  :-*

Final score: 35 - 14 Shenandoah wins.  :-[


BTW, Lowe scored again on a great catch in the endzone on a great pass by GC QB Cap. First GC TD was on a short run by Bacon. Hopefully our guys can go to Danville and take care of business at Averett.   8)

Roll Pride ! !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 19, 2008, 04:47:48 AM
Narch,

I listened to the game yesterday, and It could have turned out differently. The Monarchs have some talent, but according to the announcers, they are young. Their passing game was really too much for Ferrum, even though FC had three INT's and Ferrum's running game was a challenge for Methodist.

I think if they can keep their heads up, they can give CNU all they will want.

I really have a hard time understanding how they have the record they do, after listening to the game yesterday. Good luck against the Captains!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: LAWMC96 on October 19, 2008, 11:14:46 AM
narch lets hope the boys can pull an upset against the captains like we did a few years ago. it is a sweet feeling listening to them chant ccccccccc   nnnnnnnnnn   uuuuuuuuuu  cnu and we can legitimately reply cn who........
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 19, 2008, 12:54:55 PM
Quote from: LAWMC96 on October 19, 2008, 11:14:46 AM
narch lets hope the boys can pull an upset against the captains like we did a few years ago. it is a sweet feeling listening to them chant ccccccccc   nnnnnnnnnn   uuuuuuuuuu  cnu and we can legitimately reply cn who........

You can legitimately reply cn who off of one win in 4 tries? Sounds about right. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 19, 2008, 05:36:48 PM
I just got back from Maryville. While I was extremely impressed by the 1st half I was just as disappointed by the 2nd half. The intensity was completely gone after halftime. Another thing Im upset with was the play calling at the end of the game. Up by 14 with under 3 minutes to go we are still throwing the ball? and when they finally called a run they call a risky option with a back up running back in which resulted in a fumble and a TD for maryville. Now its a 7 point game with 1:30 left and Maryville still has 3 timeouts because we were passing the ball. I'm happy with the win. But we don't need to make the score so close.

CNU, we have a lot we can improve on. Don't start feeling good about yourself yet. You have much more to prove. Get up on Methodist and never slow down. Pound and pound them into submission. If you find yourselves up by a large margin, remember how Maryville got back into the game. Every second until the whistle. Every minute for 60 minutes. Leave no doubt next week. Knock em down. Kick em when they are down and stomp them out.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 19, 2008, 06:35:34 PM
Congrats to CNU on a good win.  Your running attack overwhelmed our defense in the first half as you jumped to a 24-0 lead.  Got to be proud of our Fighting Scots on not giving up and making it a 7 point loss to the Captains.

I agree with crazylegs, why in the world are you trying to throw deep passes with less than 2 minutes left in the game and up by 14 unless your trying to run up the score.  Poor decisions by your staff almost cost CNU at the end.

Ogun is the most physical running back I have seen in years, however your fullback is very impressive opening up the holes for Ogun. 

Very proud of Conner throwing for 339 yards against the Captians.  I think Idlette is the best receiver in the conference with 9 catches for 149 yards.

Finally, this was the largest crowd to watch a MC game with around 5,000 at the game.  Great atmosphere for a college football game and proud of the support of our fans....

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2008, 08:03:26 PM
Wow....that must have beem 2 different games! CNU was up by 24......wow. Gotta give Maryville a ton of credit for playing the entire game. Sounds like CNU play calling was suspect. Not sure what that is all about. Good thing I wasn't able to listen to the game. I would have more grey hair. I was In Charlottesville watching yet another Virginia school beat a North Carolina school.  :D :D

During half time UVA was recognized for having the highest winning percentage for all sports in Va for D1 schools. I think CNU won the same award for D2 and D3 schools. Riki - is that true? If so, what was the winning %? UVA was around 63%.

Played golf in Wintergreen this morning....brrrr....we had to delay tee time to let course thaw!!! 27 degrees.......I'm still cold!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 19, 2008, 08:38:22 PM
So week eight has arrived, and Ferrum will get a well deserved bye week. I hope they work on extra points! That was crazy. 3 blocked xp kicks.  I don't know what has to be done, but someone needs to figure it out quick.

Good game by the Hornets. They are a quality ball club also better than their record shows.

Good luck to all this week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 19, 2008, 09:59:30 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 19, 2008, 06:35:34 PM
Congrats to CNU on a good win.  Your running attack overwhelmed our defense in the first half as you jumped to a 24-0 lead.  Got to be proud of our Fighting Scots on not giving up and making it a 7 point loss to the Captains.

I agree with crazylegs, why in the world are you trying to throw deep passes with less than 2 minutes left in the game and up by 14 unless your trying to run up the score.  Poor decisions by your staff almost cost CNU at the end.

Ogun is the most physical running back I have seen in years, however your fullback is very impressive opening up the holes for Ogun. 

Very proud of Conner throwing for 339 yards against the Captians.  I think Idlette is the best receiver in the conference with 9 catches for 149 yards.

Finally, this was the largest crowd to watch a MC game with around 5,000 at the game.  Great atmosphere for a college football game and proud of the support of our fans....



     ProudFightingScot....nice to meet you Friday night at the  baseball game. Please give your father my thanks again for the invite and my apologies for not making it by after the game Saturday.
     I was very proud of the Fighting Scots for hanging in there yesterday. Down 24 to 0 in the Q1, they could have quit. I concur with you and crazylegs on CNU passing late in the game.  IMO, just plain poor play calling whether they were trying to make the margin of victory bigger or not. Run the ball and force the Scots to use their TO's. Even if you don't pick up a first down, MC still has to go the length of the field, score, recover an onside kick, and score again to tie or win the game. All with less than two minutes on the clock and no TO's left. Probability....slim and none!!
    All in all, a great weekend fellowshipping with old friends and teammates. Several I hadn't seen in 20 years. Keep fighting the fight Scots and working hard to raise it to the next level.
     And one more thing....the walk of the Scots is a great tradition and very emotional for me. For the current players, I think it puts a human face on what Legends Rock represents. Very cool. Go Scots!!
     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 20, 2008, 10:16:06 AM
heyyyyy, I finally got the pickems right. 4 for 4. NewB, Allen C & Mosh went 3/4,  UnBi went 2/4. Did I miss anybody?

                           Total              win%          100%
PFS                       12/12            100              3
Crazylegs              12/16             75                1
FBsouthernStyle    8/12              67
KickerDad              8/12              67
CNU63                  6/7                86                1
Mosh                     5/12              42
Newbie                  4/7                57
CNU85                  3/3                100              1
Narc                      2/5                40
CNUalum9             1/3                33
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 21, 2008, 09:11:55 PM
I'll get the pick 'ems started this week since I didn't do so well in my only attempt so far this year.

Methodist @ CNU... Captains playing their second home game of the season on the last Saturday of October come away with a big win.  Methodist is giving up 306.3 yds/game on the ground in conference games won't be able to stop the conference's leading rusher, Tunde Ogun(163.7 yds/game).

Greensboro @ Averett...Listening to kickerdad earlier in the season, I wasn't sure Averett could beat a rec team.  We will find out this weekend as they play the closest thing to a rec team in Greensboro. (Just a joke Pride...no need to get your panties in a bunch).  Averett wins in a close game.

NCWC @ Shenandoah...Upset Special of the Week!!! Shenandoah comes in with a 1-2 record in the conference, BUT their lone losses come against the conference's 2 undefeated teams.  Both games were close games (Ferrum 14-12 & CNU 17-7).   NC Wesleyan gets caught looking ahead and fall at SU.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 21, 2008, 11:55:54 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 21, 2008, 09:11:55 PMlone losses
2 is the loneliest number that you ever knew...or is it one? :)

i like the stones to pick su over ncwc, but i don't think it will happen

and predicting that tunde ogun is licking his chops right now is understatement...i hope the monarchs have something up their sleeves for him
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 22, 2008, 08:52:01 AM
Quote from: narch on October 21, 2008, 11:55:54 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 21, 2008, 09:11:55 PMlone losses
2 is the loneliest number that you ever knew...or is it one? :)

Three Dog Night says ditto with:

Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 21, 2008, 09:11:55 PMNC Wesleyan gets caught looking ahead and fall at SU.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 22, 2008, 09:19:58 AM
According to today's Greensboro News and Record, Greensboro College has reached an agreement with a coalition of residents in the downtown Warnersville neighborhood to develop a 30-acre tract as a sports complex.  The residents were worried about the presence of a football stadium and the demolition of an historic school.  Evidently, in addition to offering financial aid scholarships to Warnersville students, the college will preserve the school as a lyceum (community center/historical museum) while putting in a soccer field, a baseball field, a softball field and tennis courts.  The article went on the say GC would renovate existing Pride Field on campus (in front of Hanes Gym) in order to finally have a football stadium on campus.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 22, 2008, 11:05:45 AM
I got,

CNU by 21 over the Metho-dust  ;D
Greensburg by 7 over Avarat  :P
Shenan-dolt-uh by 3 over NC wusslian  :o


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 22, 2008, 11:09:27 AM
Since I first visited Greensboro College in 1999 they have always said they were going to build this or or that (and they love blueprints).  Out of the few projects they have made blueprints of I have seen zero new buildings.  

I hope this isn't a ten yr PR stunt.  If they say they are going to do it and recruit kids with it then I hope those kids get to play on that field.



Need a win

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 22, 2008, 03:50:21 PM
I keep forgetting to make picks. Must be busy or something.

CNU
AU
NCW

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 22, 2008, 07:29:30 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 22, 2008, 11:05:45 AM
I got,

CNU by 21 over the Metho-dust  ;D
Greensburg by 7 over Avarat  :P
Shenan-dolt-uh by 3 over NC wusslian  :o




Oh...I get it...he's changing the names into funny little slogans  ::)

Mosh...GC recruited me in hs with the promise of a new stadium to play in and that was a long time ago.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3Newbie on October 22, 2008, 09:15:37 PM

See'n you over Meth by 10
The Pride over Avert by 3
Shane over NCWes by 2
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 23, 2008, 12:55:27 AM
Admiral,

  I think this one is really going to happen but it prob will take ten years.  Even though the Pres played FB at Wake I think he is pretty removed from really caring what happens to the sports programs.  I take that back he prob cares but its not the priority. 

GC could really change things with some facilities though..The location is ideal for college kids.

Need the W

 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on October 23, 2008, 09:03:55 AM
HILLBILLIES WIN THIS WEEK IN A TOUGH GAME AGAINST U OF BYE

CNU

NCW

GC PRIDE OVER DANVILLE STATE
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 23, 2008, 09:12:50 AM
Narch and Papi
Back in CO. From 115 to 22 in 36 hours. I do not miss it there. Assimilation will take some time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: unbiasedmajority on October 23, 2008, 10:03:30 AM
In the past GC had pretty pictures and blueprints and that was all. This is an official college wide Capital Campaign. Funds have already been raised and are clearly waiting for a little more funding and naming rights (sponsor) for an on campus stadium.  The task will be a three phase project.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 23, 2008, 11:01:26 AM
Methodist @ CNU...  Methodist 7..CNU 31

Greensboro @ Averett...  Greensboro 10 .. Averett 35

NCWC @ Shenandoah...  NCWC 17 .. Shenandoah 20
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 23, 2008, 04:50:56 PM
ABN...I'm flying out in the morning headed to Denver to attend a DOD conference at the convention center out there...nice to hear I'm in for some cold weather  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 24, 2008, 05:26:23 AM
Picks for this week!

Methodist 17 CNU 37

Greensboro 13  Averett 21

NCWC 24   Shenandoah 21
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 24, 2008, 07:51:56 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 22, 2008, 11:05:45 AM
I got,

CNU by 21 over the Metho-dust  ;D
Greensburg by 7 over Avarat  :P
Shenan-dolt-uh by 3 over NC wusslian  :o
Here are my picks

CNU 43 Methodist 20
Averett 32 Greensboro 10
NCWC 17 Shenandoah 24 Upset of the week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 24, 2008, 01:32:26 PM
uh oh! Lots of rain expected fot tomorrow's game. CNU better just pack it in now. The mighty Monarchs are headed to town and they are suited for the rain. CNU has no chance......but don't change my pick!

;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on October 24, 2008, 02:38:20 PM
with rain in the forecast and CNU's running attack I pick CNU to win big.

CNU 38       methodist 6

Averett 14   Greensboro 7

NCWC  21  Shenadoah 10
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnu63 on October 25, 2008, 02:09:45 PM
does anyone have the score of the cnu game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 25, 2008, 02:13:41 PM
D3 scoreboard says CNU up 14-0 at the half
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 25, 2008, 04:31:37 PM
38-14 final  CNU over Methodist. It was a solid performance today, pretty much dominated the entire game.  Methodist's only bright spots were came in the passing game and most were late in the game against the 2nd string. Tunde had something like 254 yards rushing setting a new CNU single game rushing record. He also had a 50 yarder called back. The man is a beast. 942 on the season so far with 3 games left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2008, 09:13:13 PM
I thought CNU played very inconsistently. The first half was terrible. 7 points on offense against the Methodist D? Give me a break. In the second half the offense seemed to play better with #5 at QB. Not sure why. It just seemed that the team clicked better. Of course, that could just be me and the game film will show I don't know what I'm talking about. CNU's D is great up front and at LB. The D backs need more experience....or some serious help. All of them are Fr or So. They were picked apart. You can overcome that in onference play. It will spell a first round disaster of they are fortunate enough to make playoffs.

A win is a win and I know the score was 38-14. But there were too many things that concern me as a diehard fan. We can't throw and we can't stop the throw. #6 for MU destroyed the CNU D.

Next week is going to be tough. Maybe I'll drive down to see the game. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 25, 2008, 10:10:09 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 25, 2008, 04:31:37 PMMethodist's only bright spots were came in the passing game and most were late in the game against the 2nd string.
sorry, but the stats just don't bear that statement out...mu got 107 of 351 passing yards after going down 31-14 (i can't imagine that cnu was playing largely 2nd stringers in a 24-14 game with 15:00 left on the clock)...that's hardly "most" and it's not even 1/3...

while i won't dispute the dominance of the cnu running game, looking at the box score it appears that this game was closer than anticipated for all but the last quarter, and could have been even closer if not for some mu miscues...going 1-5 in the red zone with two missed fg's and two interceptions deep in cnu territory (one in the end zone and the other on the cnu 2 yard line) won't allow a team to get an upset on the road
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 26, 2008, 01:08:54 AM
I think the reality is that in the CNU defensive backfield there is no clear first or second string. The roster is filled with Sophomores who didn't play much, if at all, last year and a bunch of Freshmen. I saw some talent back there, but they just need to keep playing and gain some experience. I think the "second string" guys were afraid to play tight and give up the big play. Once they started playing up close, the MU QB wasn't as sharp. I wouldn't be surprised if the starting line up was a little different next week for CNU.

Tunde Ogun was a beast again. And Fr Legister is even "beastier". Ogun ran for 254 yds. Then in the 4th CNU brings in Legister and he gets 72 yds on 10 carries....he's a big guy to bring down at 235 lbs.

The MU defense will wake up tomorrow and feel like they were in one heck of an auto accident!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 26, 2008, 02:15:14 AM
Ok....you can tell I'm bored. After 2am and I'm updating the d3 rushing per game stats. Tunde Ogun was 15th before today's game. He has moved up to #10 with 157 yds per game. When I was looking up the stats for each player I noticed a trend. All of the top 10 except CNU's Ogun are from "cold weather" schools. Most in the Northeast (MIT, Fitchburg, Maine Maritime, etc). 2 are from Iowa and of course that Mt Union guy.

Once again - totally useless info......just something I noticed.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 26, 2008, 10:43:12 AM
I just looked at the box score from GC AU.

???

I saw the one pick for a td by AU but it looked GC dominated them???

Anybody see the game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 26, 2008, 12:35:31 PM
I will second the motion that Ogun is a man playing against boys.  MC's defense was giving up 90 per game before Ogun ripped us for 230 yards.  Since he's only a junior, maybe he'll follow CNU's wide receiver from last year and transfer to ODU....   He's my vote for Offensive Player of the Year....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 26, 2008, 05:47:27 PM
Plus, Ogun has 9 TDs in last 3 games.


PFS - I sent you a personal message.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 27, 2008, 01:03:41 AM
Narch,

Did you make it to the game this saturday? As I said before. Methodist's bright spot came in the passing game. And yes most of the yardage came late in the game. 150+ in the 4th Qtr. Honestly they could have had a lot more. Receivers were open all day. A better quarterback makes this game a lot closer. Maybe you guys should invest in a new QB. Now, don't get me wrong his percentage completed was pretty good, but often times he had a wide open guy 15 to 20 yards deeper than the target he hit. It seemed he would get rattled and dump it off to the first guy he saw and miss the big play. If he could work on that you guys might win another game this year. Best of luck to ya!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 27, 2008, 09:39:20 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 26, 2008, 10:43:12 AM
I just looked at the box score from GC AU.

???

I saw the one pick for a td by AU but it looked GC dominated them???

Anybody see the game?

Moshergc9

It was 21 - 0 favor of Averett at end of first half. Averett's offense got out of the box early and got 14 points on the board but then the defense had to step it up. Defense provided the offense with opportunity but GC dug in when they had to. GC came out in the second half and quickly put 14 points on the board. Again, Averett's offense had opportunity but wasn't able to convert. Averett's defense did a great job holding GC's Terry Lowe in check all day. He gots his catchs but he was smothered as soon as he caught it. I only remember he breaking two or three for good yardage. Both QB's will be sore for a couple of days as they both got the crap beat out of them on passing attempts. Until that interception, the game was close and could have gone either way. The interception seemed to break GC's back and they appeared not to have the gas they had prior to that.

This is how I saw it, certainly there were other folks there that may have seen things differently but I think we will all be on the same page (somewhere). That will depend on which side of the field you sat on.  One thing I noticed was GC passed over the middle all day. Now whether Averett was allowing that in order to prevent the big bomb or GC just had good routes that Averett's LB's couldn't pick up, not sure. You knew one thing for sure GC was either going to Lowe or #8 for the big plays.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2008, 02:17:01 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 27, 2008, 01:03:41 AM
Narch,

Did you make it to the game this saturday? As I said before. Methodist's bright spot came in the passing game. And yes most of the yardage came late in the game. 150+ in the 4th Qtr. Honestly they could have had a lot more. Receivers were open all day. A better quarterback makes this game a lot closer. Maybe you guys should invest in a new QB. Now, don't get me wrong his percentage completed was pretty good, but often times he had a wide open guy 15 to 20 yards deeper than the target he hit. It seemed he would get rattled and dump it off to the first guy he saw and miss the big play. If he could work on that you guys might win another game this year. Best of luck to ya!

I wish the CNU QBs were hitting the wrong target to the tune of 351 yds. 4-12 will not cut it from this point forward in the schedule. Even though CNU gained 351 on the ground, if you throw the ball 12 times, you gotta find the target on at least 6 or 7 of those.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 27, 2008, 07:10:04 PM
Guess I will set out my pick for the week-


CNU @ NCW   NCW 24  CNU 23

Ferrum at Greensboro  Ferrum 34 G'boro 14

Maryville at Methodist    Maryville 27 Methodist 20

Averett at Shenandoah   Shenandoah 29 Averett 20

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 27, 2008, 07:12:12 PM

Do we have the results of this past pick-um's?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 28, 2008, 11:16:47 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 27, 2008, 01:03:41 AM
And yes most of the yardage came late in the game. 150+ in the 4th Qtr
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 25, 2008, 04:31:37 PMMethodist's only bright spots were came in the passing game and most were late in the game against the 2nd string.
these two statements aren't nearly the same...and 150 still isn't MOST of 351 (hint...the word "most" implies more than half)

i wasn't at the game, but i promise that the qb wasn't the reason the monarchs lost...and i'll take the mu qb over the cnu qb 8 days a week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 29, 2008, 09:22:25 AM
So Narch you are saying you would take an average QB over a 1st Team All-Conference safety 8 days of the week?  Because CNU's QB was a 1st Team pick last year as a sophomore before being asked by the coaches to run the offense.  How many guys do you know that could go 2 years of playing strictly defense (and at a very high level at that) to learning a whole offense in the offseason and still leading that team to a 5-1 record?  Guess you don't like winning at MU. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 29, 2008, 09:24:07 AM
P.S. You are absolutely right about the MU QB not losing the game.  The defense couldn't stop CNU...could have used the CNU QB to tackle Ogun huh?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 29, 2008, 10:15:05 AM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 29, 2008, 09:22:25 AM
So Narch you are saying you would take an average QB over a 1st Team All-Conference safety 8 days of the week?

If "average" is someone who throws for 351 yards and completes 2/3 of his passes against a tough defense like CNU's (no matter the string), then put me on board with narch for perferring this "average quarterback", too.  ;)

I really like Matt Long -- when he plays safety -- but after him completing just 3 out of 11 passes on Saturday, this might not be the best week to compare him to the competition.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 29, 2008, 10:39:44 AM
Maryville's backup QB had a good stats game against CNU's defense as well.  CNU is still young and inexperienced on D and will only get better as time goes on.  I still believe they are doing a great job and hope they keep up the good effort.  But, they have given up big passsing games this year.  They rotate 4-6 CB's per game, all of which are sophomores or younger.  The starting LB's are all sophomores and they rotate a freshmen in that makes a lot of plays.  And one starting safety is a junior and the other a sophomore.  So they haven't come together as a defense yet because they are still learning to play with each other.  Still, for as young as they are I have been impressed with their play.

They can give up 600 yards passing a game as long as it doesn't lead to scores.  Just stating the facts that they have given up big passing games this year so stats aren't impressive, but winning is.

Teague, unless I'm mistaking, is a junior and has had 3 years to learn the system, whereas Long has had less than a year.  I was just stating that MU could have used CNU's leading tackler from last year to help them tackle Tunde, because they sure couldn't do it.

P.S. How many freshmen QB's have an instant impact?  Well CNU has 2 that are WINNING games and to me that is more important than any stats you can throw at me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 29, 2008, 11:53:18 AM
Dearest Narch,

Methodist in the redzone converted only 20% to points. CNU however converted 80%. Now, ask me again. Would i rather have  a QB that throws for 351 yards and gets sacked 5 Times? or one who throws for 50 and gets sacked once?

I don't care if you throw for 1000 yards on the day!!! If you don't get it done when it counts. That is to say, if you don't score points. You aren't that great of a QB. A QB is more than just a  passer. The number one characteristic I want in my QB is LEADERSHIP. I want a guy who can get it done whether it be in the option or passing or managing the offense in general. You want to compare a stat that really matters? Compare INTs. CNU v. Methodist.

So I this to all you Methodist Fans. Take solace in the fact that your QB threw for 351 yards. Great job. But he didn't get it done when it counted. Its too bad this isn't fantasy football. All those yards would have meant something!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 29, 2008, 12:02:02 PM
CNUALUM9
But two of your starting LBs, while sophomores, were starters last year, including one who was rookie of the year. They're hardly green. Not to mention that Long was a sophomore when he was tearing things up as a DB, as was Bradshaw when he was the conference's best reciever. I'm not buying the they-can't-be-great-because-they're-sophomores routine. I, too, have been impressed with their play, and rightly so.

As for Teague, he's thrown a grand total of 12 passes in college before this year. Sure, he's been learning the system in that time, but he's never before really had to execute it. And it's not just his stats against CNU that count in his favor -- he's having a good year all around.

The bottom line (and I know that narch tried to emphasize this point) is that MU didn't lose Saturday because of the QB. Yes, MU is losing often, but the losses are a team thing more than a QB thing -- while I also think that CNU's wins are more than a team thing than a QB thing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 29, 2008, 01:13:37 PM
The argument was for the fact that CNU's defense is young.  I never once said they weren't doing a good job, b/c I believe they are.  I was just trying to get across that they still have time to improve.  You are absolutely right about Diggs being a great player.  The corner's however are very young and inexperienced and most teams pass on corners.  Only Bronte-Tinkew saw significant time last year out of the bunch.  But they are steadily getting better with each game.  I was impressed too with the play of #15, I want to say his name is McMillan and he is a freshmen.   

As for the 12 passes Teague threw prior to this year, well that's 12 more than Long threw.  Two years of practice and scrimmages and jv games go along way in a QB's development.  I can tell you right now, if Todd Faison played his freshmen year he wouldn't have had the success that he did in his final 2 years.  But, he learned the offense and got better watching a veteran QB for his first 2 years and then shined when it was his turn to be the starter as a junior and senior.

I agreed with narch completely in saying it wasn't Teague's fault at all.  He played a good game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2008, 02:50:35 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 29, 2008, 09:22:25 AM
So Narch you are saying you would take an average QB over a 1st Team All-Conference safety 8 days of the week?
i'll take teague as my qb 8 days a week over matt long...i didn't realize we were comparing long at safety and teague at qb

Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 29, 2008, 09:22:25 AMBecause CNU's QB was a 1st Team pick last year as a sophomore before being asked by the coaches to run the offense.  How many guys do you know that could go 2 years of playing strictly defense (and at a very high level at that) to learning a whole offense in the offseason and still leading that team to a 5-1 record?  Guess you don't like winning at MU. 
i respectfully submit to you that cnu is 5-1 this year despite lackluster play at the qb position - that doesn't mean that long isn't a great leader and a tremendous asset to the cnu football program...he is - the simple fact of the matter is this...he's not a great qb right now - you want to say he's a winner, a leader, a great football player, whatever...i agree - but he's not a great qb

on the season:
long has thrown for 512 yards on 42% completion with a 4% interception rate and a 1% td rate and rushed for 133 yards (2.6 ypc)
teague has thrown for 1382 yards on 59% completion with a 6% interception rate and a 4% td rate and rushed for 214 yards (2.7ypc)
...and he doesn't have the threat of a running game

as a fan, i'd gladly trade long's numbers for teague's if you agreed to trade the 5-1 record for the 1-5 record, so yeah...i do like winning...i was simply stating what i thought was fairly obvious, and that was the fact that teague wasn't the reason the  monarchs lost this weekend

Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 29, 2008, 11:53:18 AM
Methodist in the redzone converted only 20% to points. CNU however converted 80%.
do you think tunde ogun and the cnu o-line might have had something to do with the cnu red-zone success?  as i see it, cnu didn't put the game in long's hands in the red-zone vs. mu...in fact, the only pass attempt in the red zone for cnu was an incomplete matt long pass...let's not pin this red-zone success on someone who simply handed the ball off to one of the best rb's in the region, if not country

Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 29, 2008, 11:53:18 AMI don't care if you throw for 1000 yards on the day!!! If you don't get it done when it counts. That is to say, if you don't score points. You aren't that great of a QB. A QB is more than just a  passer. The number one characteristic I want in my QB is LEADERSHIP. I want a guy who can get it done whether it be in the option or passing or managing the offense in general.
do you know that eric teague isn't a great leader? everything i've heard from EVERYONE associated with the monarch football program would point to the fact that he is, indeed, a great leader - you're the one who said
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 27, 2008, 01:03:41 AMA better quarterback makes this game a lot closer. Maybe you guys should invest in a new QB.
and i've done nothing other than defend a 351 yard passing day

Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 29, 2008, 11:53:18 AM
Would i rather have  a QB that throws for 351 yards and gets sacked 5 Times? or one who throws for 50 and gets sacked once?
he threw for 22 yards (not 50) and was sacked 1 out of 12 drops (8%)...teague threw for 351 and was sacked 5 of 42 drops (12%)...there's really not a huge differential in the sack percentage, but 351 is a LOT more than 22 - project long's day to 37 pass attempts and you get a line that looks like this: 10-37 for 74 yards, 0 td's and 3 sacks...is that better than 25-37 for 351 yards and 1 td?...not by a longshot - i expect you to defend your guy, just as you expect me to defend my guy, but we both know that teague is the better qb :)

Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 29, 2008, 11:53:18 AMYou want to compare a stat that really matters? Compare INTs. CNU v. Methodist.
i did, above, and the interception ratio's for the year between long and teague are very similar...in this particular game, teague had one more turnover than long (2 int's to 1 fumble)

Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 29, 2008, 09:22:25 AMHow many guys do you know that could go 2 years of playing strictly defense (and at a very high level at that)
i haven't seen that switch much, but the monarchs have a starting cb (antonio bartee) who was a qb for 2 years (he started the first 2 or 3 games of his sophomore year)...he's currently leading the team in tackles and interceptions and has scored 2 td's on the season...not bad numbers, but when a corner leads your team in tackling, it's not a good sign

Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 29, 2008, 09:24:07 AM
P.S. You are absolutely right about the MU QB not losing the game.  The defense couldn't stop CNU...could have used the CNU QB to tackle Ogun huh?
yes...i'd very much like to have him (and his brother) on the monarch defense :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 29, 2008, 03:38:39 PM
Greensboro upsets Ferrum...DO IT!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 29, 2008, 03:52:55 PM
CNU @ NCW  CNU 28  NCW 21 Defensive battle

Ferrum at Greensboro  Ferrum 14 G'boro 35 Upset special

Maryville at Methodist    Maryville 17 Methodist 24 Methodist does it at hm

Averett at Shenandoah   Averett 37  Shenadoah 24 Averett offense comes to life 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 29, 2008, 04:03:41 PM
I have said all along that he wasn't the reason they lost the game and he is a good QB. I take back him being average.  I was just trying to say that he has had a lot better chance to succeed than Long.  I would like to have seen him as a freshmen QB and to see if he is the same QB as today.  B/c essentially Long is a freshmen QB.  However, you haven't seen Long play QB so the reason I was so quick to defend him (other than the fact he is my brother) is because you can't go off a player by stats alone.  I will be the first to admit he isn't comfortable at QB, but he's doing what's best for the team even though he is a defensive minded player.  He went from being one of the top defensive players in the conference last year, to a mediocre offensive player because it was best for the team.  And to me that's admirable.  So still I wouldn't trade him for Teague, but can appreciate you sticking up for your man and hope you can appreciate my stand on the subject.

It just seemed like comparing apples to oranges to me.  The comparison was for a 3rd year QB, who at the same time is playing his #1 position to a freshmen QB, who is playing his second best position.   When Cedric Townsend was a freshmen at NCWC he wouldn't have been traded for many QB's in the league.  But when he had time to learn the system and get comfortbale playing QB at a college level, I'm pretty sure teams wouldn't have minded having the Offensive POY on their team.  


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 29, 2008, 04:12:23 PM
CNU @ NCWC ... Long throws 5 TD passes. Or just hands it off to Tunde.

Ferrum @ Greensboro ... Top team in the conference vs. the bottom.  Not much analysis needed on this one.

Maryville @ Methodist  ... Teague too much for the Scots to handle.

Averett @ Shenandoah ... SU has a better team than their record shows, so I'll keep going with them until they get a win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2008, 05:48:30 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 29, 2008, 04:03:41 PM
B/c essentially Long is a freshmen QB.  
12 collegiate passes doesn't exactly make teague that much more prepared to play qb than long...i know teague got some practice reps as the #2 last year (i think he was #3 or #4 on the depth chart as a frosh, behind at least parks and bartee...so he got little work other than maybe scout team stuff), but being the #2 guy in practice last year isn't THAT much different than being a defensive player :) - i like the sarcasm in your picks, as well...

i think you and i have come to a mutual agreement and, perhaps, an agreement to disagree...now as for crazylegs...well, he's blinded by cnu blue :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 29, 2008, 10:32:49 PM
Bo Jordan, As Forrest Gump would say, "that's all I have to say about that"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 30, 2008, 09:46:14 AM
Quote from: narch on October 29, 2008, 05:48:30 PM
i think you and i have come to a mutual agreement and, perhaps, an agreement to disagree...now as for crazylegs...well, he's blinded by cnu blue :)

I try to be realistic in my posts, but at the same time if I have a strong view on something I will speak my mind.  I absolutely agree that 12 career passes doesn't make that much difference, but if he was a scout team QB for 2 years, he got 2 years of practicing against a #1 defense. And that alone sure helped in his developement.  I shouldn't have knocked the kid in the first place(I'm not really sure I ever said anything bad about him though), and hope he continues to get better and I'm sure we will see him on the all-conference team either this year, next, or both.  As for Long, I hope CNU finds a QB so he can go back to his comfort zone on defense.  Or he is given a legitimate shot at being the QB, because so far this year he hasn't.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 30, 2008, 11:22:59 AM
CNU 34 @ NCWC 24 - CNU pulls away in the 2nd half

Ferrum 42 @ Greensboro 20 - Ferrum keeps rolling to their final game of the year agains CNU to decide who wins the conference

Maryville 35 @ Methodist 13 - No let down after 2 weeks to prepare against Methodist who doesn't have a conference win yet.

Averett 17 @ Shenandoah 24 - Somewhat of an upset according to conference standings as of now.  Plus I can't pick all visiting teams to win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 30, 2008, 11:48:37 AM
My picks

CNU
Ferrum
Maryville
SU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 30, 2008, 06:32:44 PM
Excuse me while I take my blue glasses off... :-*

Narch, you have a lot of time on your hands and even more issues. Methodist is a bad football team. CNu won the game. We ran the ball a whole lot. There was nothing you could do to stop that. Methodist threw for just as many passing yards. However, they didn't score nearly as much. Im sure there are many reasons why they didn't score. The fact is that they couldn't get the job done last saturday.

Now let me put my glasses back on...

Applaud your QB if you wish. We don't care much for moral victories here @ CNU. :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 30, 2008, 08:07:53 PM
 
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 30, 2008, 06:32:44 PM
Excuse me while I take my blue glasses off... :-*

Narch, you have a lot of time on your hands and even more issues. Methodist is a bad football team. CNu won the game. We ran the ball a whole lot. There was nothing you could do to stop that. Methodist threw for just as many passing yards. However, they didn't score nearly as much. Im sure there are many reasons why they didn't score. The fact is that they couldn't get the job done last saturday.

Now let me put my glasses back on...

Applaud your QB if you wish. We don't care much for moral victories here @ CNU. :-\
i never claimed moral victory...there is no such thing in my book - you suggested that the monarchs should "invest in a new qb" and proceeded to bang on a qb who just hung 351 on your boys...i simply pointed out the fallacy of your thoughts

your pointing out the fact that the monarchs aren't very good right now is a little late...i've been talking about their inability to stop the run (and run it) for about a month now and, well, a 1-5 record is pretty easy for me to interpret, but thanks for the news flash :)

lastly, why is it that i always seem to have more time on my hands than anyone else who posts on this board?...every time i use factual information to back up my points, i've got "a lot of time on my hands"...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 30, 2008, 09:59:09 PM
That time is a blessing narch embrace it.

When I have to argue with the financially blessed school i just revert to pointing and shouting and saying you are a public school.

They hate that
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 31, 2008, 09:07:06 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 30, 2008, 06:32:44 PM
Excuse me while I take my blue glasses off... :-*

Narch, you have a lot of time on your hands and even more issues. Methodist is a bad football team. CNu won the game. We ran the ball a whole lot. There was nothing you could do to stop that. Methodist threw for just as many passing yards. However, they didn't score nearly as much. Im sure there are many reasons why they didn't score. The fact is that they couldn't get the job done last saturday.

Now let me put my glasses back on...

Applaud your QB if you wish. We don't care much for moral victories here @ CNU. :-\

DANG--------- will it be safe to come to CNU next week. Good thing I have lots of friends at CNU......

On a serious note - is Lot N off Moores Lane still open for general parking and tailgating. When we came 2 years ago I was able to get there early and get a spot. Also, do you know if there is HandiCap parking in "N"?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 31, 2008, 09:19:41 AM
One more question for the CNU guys,

Where is the best place to park to buy tickets. I have to come over there Monday or Tuesday and get 15 or so and I think I have to go to the Freeman Center but can't remember where that is or where you park. Being it is your homecoming I have an idea you will be standing room only from all the folks that want to see you kill Averett.  :)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 31, 2008, 11:52:15 AM
Narch, your posts are very long and you obviously take a lot of time looking up the stats. So that is why I say you have much time on your hands. And yes, if your QB were BETTER he would have scored more TDs. or maybe not. Anyway, good luck to you guys for the rest of the year.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 31, 2008, 03:08:16 PM
Kickerdad,

The Freeman Center is off of Warwick.  That is exactly where to go to get tickets.  You turn onto University Place off Warwick and the Freeman Center is the building on your left.  As for the handicap parking, the lot you are referring to does have handicap parking in the front.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: TXMike on October 31, 2008, 07:39:49 PM
All military vets -

Little known provision in just passed law allows us to render hand salute during National Anthem.


http://www1.va.gov/opa/pressrel/docs/Saluting.doc

New Law Authorizes Veterans' Salutes during National Anthem
WASHINGTON -- Veterans and active-duty military not in uniform can now render the military-style hand salute during the playing of the national anthem, thanks to changes in federal law that took effect this month.

"The military salute is a unique gesture of respect that marks those who have served in our nation's armed forces," said Secretary of Veterans Affairs Dr. James B. Peake. "This provision allows the application of that honor in all events involving our nation's flag."
The new provision improves upon a little known change in federal law last year that authorized veterans to render the military-style hand salute during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag, but it did not address salutes during the national anthem.  Last year's provision also applied to members of the armed forces while not in uniform.
Traditionally, members of the nation's veterans service organizations have rendered the hand-salute during the national anthem and at events involving the national flag while wearing their organization's official head-gear. 

The most recent change, authorizing hand-salutes during the national anthem by veterans and out-of-uniform military personnel, was sponsored by Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, an Army veteran.  It was included in the Defense Authorization Act of 2009, which President Bush signed on Oct. 14. 

The earlier provision authorizing hand-salutes for veterans and out-of-uniform military personnel during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag, was contained in the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008, which took effect Jan. 28, 2008.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 31, 2008, 11:41:42 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 31, 2008, 11:52:15 AM
if your QB were BETTER he would have scored more TDs
wow...that's a profound statement...if your rb were BETTER, he would have run for 300 yards and 4 td's vs. the monarchs...but i wouldn't suggest that cnu needs to "invest in a new rb" :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 01, 2008, 09:21:41 AM
Anybody out there smell an upset in Rocky Mount? I tell you those Bishops are good, and have been flying under the radar. I have a feeling they could put CNU on the short end of the scoreboard at days end.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 01, 2008, 02:50:15 PM
31-0 Maryville at Halftime
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 01, 2008, 03:19:46 PM
31-0 beginning of the 4th
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 01, 2008, 03:38:05 PM
38-0 Maryville with 9 minutes left to go in the 4th
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 01, 2008, 03:51:44 PM
CNU 27
NCW 26
Final

Great Game!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 01, 2008, 03:58:27 PM
38-0 Maryville Final

Complete win by the Scots!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 01, 2008, 04:07:10 PM
Wow, great game. Very exciting. Too close for comfort.

A little sloppy in spots on both sides (picks, missed kicks etc.) Missed extra point ended up being the difference.
After being down 9 points with 8 minutes left in the game. CNU rallied and got it done. Great win guys.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 01, 2008, 06:02:00 PM
Tough loos for my Bishops but Congrats to CNU on a great comeback victory over the Bishops. Unable to see the game, but looks like it was a great game to watch. With young guys on both team, should be interesting the next few years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 01, 2008, 08:52:12 PM
a long season gets a little longer for the monarchs...looks like the monarchs will likely be playing the pride with the #1 overall pick on the line :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 01, 2008, 11:28:08 PM
Panthers roll 46-21 over Greensboro

500 yards of offense.

Way to go FC! Keep it rolling...the hill is getting steeper and will be a difficult climb, but you are on your way to the top.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 02, 2008, 12:26:00 AM
Lot N is usually the best place for tailgating. I do know that there is a "reunion" of sorts tailgating there, but there should be enough space there. Come over and say hi, ill be at the "old school reunion" hangin out with some of the old cronies I went to school with.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 02, 2008, 01:23:58 AM
TXMike
Thanks. heard that. Do it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 02, 2008, 02:00:07 AM
ABN...Just got back from Colorado...beautiful state...If you are ever in a bar in Denver and see a Coast Guard lifering...I bet I know how it got there  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scrubdad on November 02, 2008, 10:26:44 AM
Hey kickerdad, sounded as though Averett played with a little enthusiasm last night. Were you there?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 02, 2008, 11:15:11 AM
I just read the <a href="http://cnusports.com/News/football/2008/11/1/fb110108.asp?path=football">article</a> on the CNU v. NCW game. Tunde broke his own record again. He rushed for 283 yards setting CNU's single game record and season record as well with 1225 on the year. Great performance. His dominance helped set up Matt Long's clutch TD pass in the 4th. Narch, how did Teague do this week? How many TD's he throw?

With NC Weslyan out of the picture, only Ferrum and CNU are the only teams left in the conference race. Ferrum will have their hands full next week with NCW coming to town. CNU faces Averett who has just pulled off back to back wins. I sure am glad CNU plays these last two weeks at home.

TeamConference Record
Ferrum5-0
CNU5-0
Averett3-2
Maryville3-2
NC Weslyan3-2
Shenandoah1-4
Greensboro0-5
Methodist0-5
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 02, 2008, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 02, 2008, 11:15:11 AM
I just read the <a href="http://cnusports.com/News/football/2008/11/1/fb110108.asp?path=football">article</a> on the CNU v. NCW game. Tunde broke his own record again. He rushed for 283 yards setting CNU's single game record and season record as well with 1225 on the year. Great performance. His dominance helped set up Matt Long's clutch TD pass in the 4th. Narch, how did Teague do this week? How many TD's he throw?

With NC Weslyan out of the picture, only Ferrum and CNU are the only teams left in the conference race. Ferrum will have their hands full next week with NCW coming to town. CNU faces Averett who has just pulled off back to back wins. I sure am glad CNU plays these last two weeks at home.

TeamConference Record
Ferrum5-0
CNU5-0
Averett3-2
Maryville3-2
NC Weslyan3-2
Shenandoah1-4
Greensboro0-5
Methodist0-5

Oh you mean that QB from Methodist, Teague??? Hold on let me count........ 0!  and w/ the elections coming up I feel compelled to do a recount and after the recount it is still 0, which by the way, equals their score from this past weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 02, 2008, 08:47:09 PM
I think you really missed Narch's initial point about the QB's and his every attempt to explain it to you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2008, 09:57:00 PM
papi...i think my 5 year old got my point, but she is pretty advanced, so one last time (using stats from the game yesterday)

when you give up over 440 yards (232 on the ground) and run for 22 (on 20 carries), it's not the qb's fault you lost, even IF he doesn't throw a td and throws a pair of int's (maybe he's pressing a little because of the lack of a running game...maybe ?)...the monarchs are losing this year despite solid play from the qb, just as the captains are winning despite mediocre play from the qb (who is one hell of a db)...let's face it, 4-9 for 54 yards a td and an int is hardly a line worth crowing about, and i would respectfully submit that another record breaking performance from tunde ogun had more to do with the win than the qb did...BUT pinning any loss on one individual and attributing any win to one individual just doesn't work in football

next week should be interesting...gc is the only team in the usasac that runs the ball WORSE than mu, but the gc defense is one of the best overall in the conference...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 02, 2008, 11:01:26 PM
Narch and Papi,

The thing i said that got this started was that Methodist's only bring spot (against CNU) came in the passing game. I also said most of the yardage came in the late in the game. Fact: In the 4th they threw for nearly double the output of any of the previous 3 Qtrs. I was at the game and when I posted the comment I had not looked at the stats. CNU dominated the game. In the 2nd half they seemed to get a bit too comfortable rotated more players and Methodist's passing game picked up, even more so in the 4th.

Now, I gave the kid credit for being the brightest part of Methodist's performance. Narch (who didn't watch the game) comes and tries to say the stats don't support my claim. The kid threw great for the most part. He did throw some costly interceptions that could have changed the game. I did say that if he played better the out come may have been different (i.e. not throwing those int's). I never intended to compare QB's. Throwing for 300+ yards doesn't impress me. The only numbers that matter are the scores at the end of the game. You wanna compare QB's? go ahead. I'd rather compare team records at the end of the year. Good luck on the rest of your season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 03, 2008, 11:19:53 AM
Quote from: scrubdad on November 02, 2008, 10:26:44 AM
Hey kickerdad, sounded as though Averett played with a little enthusiasm last night. Were you there?

Yes we were. Averett got into a hole early in the 1st quarter, going down 14 points, but the offense put it in 5 gear and run off 27 unanswered points in the 2nd quarter. It was a great game for both defense and offense.

I would like to take opportunity to tell the Shenandoah folks that you new field looked great and I heard nothing but good comments from the players about it. Your fans and staff were nothing but first class.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2008, 12:03:53 PM
Anybody notice I've been a little quiet about all this QB chat? Well, time to end my silence. From my perspective, I've been reading two different conversations. Narch, I agree with you 100% on everything you've said. The stats favor Teague. CNU is fortunate enough not to need those types of passing stats to win. Ogun is playing at, or near, All-American level.

I also agree with 33 and Alum9 that they would rather have a W than good stats.

I'm taking these points and looking ahead - I can do that since I'm not a coach or player - I can look ahead. Let's make the leap and ASSUME CNU "runs" its way into the playoffs. We all know once you are in the final 32, really different football is being played. CNU will not advance far if we don't have a passing game. The defenses in the playoffs, especially starting in round 2, are better than anything CNU will see in the USA South. they will load 9-10 in the box and see if we can do better than 4-9 or 4-12 in passing. Maybe CNU can do better, as evidenced when Long threw that TD pass when the D stacked the box. Maybe the passing game has not been given a chance to flourish because there hasn't been a need with Ogun and the RB gang.

Interesting thought that popped into my head while writing this post. Teague in the CNU backfield with Long playing D knocking the snot out of people. That would be cool. I really thought Long was on his way to being an All-American at DB and playing in the Aztec Bowl. But all of that has changed now!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2008, 01:22:04 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 03, 2008, 12:03:53 PMInteresting thought that popped into my head while writing this post. Teague in the CNU backfield with Long playing D knocking the snot out of people. That would be cool. I really thought Long was on his way to being an All-American at DB and playing in the Aztec Bowl. But all of that has changed now!!
i like the thought of ogun, long (at db) and the rest of the cnu defense playing for the monarchs, but to each his own :)

i'm not ready to crown cnu champs yet, but if ferrum wins the usasac, a similar story can be told (although the fc qb completes a higher % and has thrown more td's and fewer int's when compared with long) - i know there have been some pretty one-dimensional teams that have made some noise in the playoffs, but i'm with you, '85...it seems like balance is something you hear coaches and "experts" talk about all the time

what's the over/under on the number of completions in the upcoming fc/cnu game...i'm going to set the number at 12...who wants the over and who want the under?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2008, 01:39:05 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 02, 2008, 11:01:26 PMThe thing i said that got this started was...
you can continue to amend and qualify your statement all you want (late has now become the 4th quarter, 150 yards is now MOST of 351 yards, 2nd string guys are now guys that rotate, etc.)...the fact of the matter is that you and i obviously disagree on the evaluation of qb play...you prefer to look at team outcome as a measure of individual performance, while i prefer to look at individual performance as a way to measure individual performance (i know, it's a novel and "out there" kind of philosophy, but hey, that's me)

i'll test your conviction, however, and take the blue/silver/white and green/gold out of the equation, since the jersey colors seem to be clouding perception:  in 2005, was ben roethlisberger (2385 yards, 17 td's, 9 int) better than peyton manning (3747 yards, 28 td's, 10 int)?

keep in mind that how you answer this question will validate everything you have said or will say going forward on this board...one answer means that you aren't to be believed and the other means you don't know as much about football as you like to think you do

Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 02, 2008, 11:01:26 PMI'd rather compare team records at the end of the year.

the qb comparison was made because you made the statement that mu should "invest in a new qb" and implied that his 351 yard performance in some way hampered the monarchs....but i'd rather not compare records, 'cause my team won't stack up favorably :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 03, 2008, 03:42:08 PM
narch,

I see NO COMPARISON in my statement:
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 27, 2008, 01:03:41 AM
Maybe you guys should invest in a new QB.
And I still stand by my statement. The 2 picks in that game were costly. I never said Teague is worse than Long.

Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 25, 2008, 04:31:37 PM
Methodist's only bright spots came in the passing game and most were late in the game against the 2nd string.
What exactly is your definition of late in the game? (we obviously don't see eye to eye here) But really you are nit picking.

Quote from: narch on November 03, 2008, 01:39:05 PM
you can continue to amend and qualify your statement all you want (late has now become the 4th quarter, 150 yards is now MOST of 351 yards, 2nd string guys are now guys that rotate, etc.)

In my mind late in the game is more than the just the 4th. When you are down 21-0 with less than 4 minutes left in the 3rd. I would say that's pretty "late in the game". By late in the game I'm saying this game is close to being over. As in you have little to no shot of catching back up. That's why i asked if you actually watched the game. If you had, perhaps you would understand what I meant. We got up 21 points and then just played cat and mouse.

Support your team. Watch the games. 350 yards passing is great but the turnovers killed em. And yeah, a lot of the 350 came late in the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 03, 2008, 03:58:46 PM

And Narch, your NFL comparison is a great example of football ignorance.
Quote from: narch on November 03, 2008, 01:39:05 PM
in 2005, was ben roethlisberger (2385 yards, 17 td's, 9 int) better than peyton manning (3747 yards, 28 td's, 10 int)?

Yes, Peyton is great. You can't really knock Big Ben either. But different teams have different ways of winning. Peyton threw 453 times as opposed to Ben who threw only 268 times. I should hope peyton would have more yards he threw nearly 200 more times than Ben! Peyton's % complete was 4.6% higher than Ben, but still fairly comparable.

All the stats aside. BIG BEN took his team all the way. Doing what was needed of him to win. Was he a better QB? Kinda hard to argue against winning the Super Bowl dontcha think? But put him on a team that throws as much as the Colts and I will tell you who is better at passing. Its kinda like asking if Allen Iverson is better than Steve Nash. Of course Iverson was a better QB but we will just stick to his Basketball history. Allen Iverson led the league in scoring a few times but he tended be a bit of a ball hog. Nash has great vision an way more assists than Iverson. They are both great guards but play the game differently.

Big Ben better than Peyton in 2005? Well at least I don't have to watch Big Ben yelling "CUT THAT MEAT!". Don't try and compare QB's from two totally different systems. I thought you were smarter than that.

I guess,
Quote from: narch on November 03, 2008, 01:39:05 PM
you don't know as much about football as you like to think you do
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2008, 05:16:25 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 03, 2008, 03:58:46 PMWas he a better QB? Kinda hard to argue against winning the Super Bowl dontcha think? But put him on a team that throws as much as the Colts and I will tell you who is better at passing.
there isn't a single gm in the nfl (including the steelers gm) who would take big ben over peyton...

i think you're still confusing individual talent and ability with team accomplishments - when you said that mu should "invest in a new qb", i did not take that to mean that mu should change it's system...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 03, 2008, 05:48:06 PM
When I said "they should invest in a better QB" . I meant, the INT's killed them.


And speaking specifically about 2005 like you suggested. Ben performed extremely well. Especially when it really counted. In the playoffs he had a QB rating of 101.7 as opposed to Peyton who had a rating of 90.9.

Narch's whole argument is dumb. I won't waste any more time talking about a two week old game or about a 1 win team who's only shot at the playoffs is to buy a ticket.
This argument is dead to me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 03, 2008, 05:52:25 PM
What I wanna know is. What's the spread on the Ferrum v. NCWC game. Just how good is Ferrum? Im excited to find out.

This just in. Tunde Ogun is #2 in the nation in yards per game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2008, 06:21:41 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 03, 2008, 05:52:25 PM
What I wanna know is. What's the spread on the Ferrum v. NCWC game. Just how good is Ferrum? Im excited to find out.

This just in. Tunde Ogun is #2 in the nation in yards per game.

The FC/NCW game should be fun to watch!

Someone smarter than me check my thinking....from a standings perspective...this week's games for CNU and FC mean nothing. Even if one team, but not both, loses...the final game of the year will determine who takes the AQ. And since it is very doubtful that a conference team will get an at-large bid.....then as far as making the playoffs, this week really doesn't matter.

Of course, as a fan (and if you're a player or a coach) all games mean something - but I was just looking at it from a W-L in the standings standpoint come the end of the year.

Am I missing something or is this true?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2008, 06:22:47 PM
Hey Narch....

I even got the "then" part right!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 03, 2008, 06:54:10 PM
cnu85, how is it going?  your team seems to be doing well.  some think that we may even get to see that game we wanted to see in september, just that it is likely to be in dover in a couple of weeks.  it would be nice to hang with you before we get to salem.  good luck the rest of the year and see you in dover.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 03, 2008, 07:20:45 PM
85,

You are 100% correct. Everyone else has at least 2 losses in conference. With only 2 games left Ferrum and CNU are sitting on top. Im just glad the championship game is going to be here in Newport News at good ol' POMOCO on the 15th. Saturday should be a good gauge of what we will see come November 15th.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2008, 08:24:37 PM
Yes indeed. No matter what happens this Saturday, CNU wil be hosting the Championship game on the 15th. With this week being Homecoming and the following week having a huge importance, I can't wait to see the crowds. The last home game was lame at 2400.

My son is even taking off from work this week to join me at the game. It takes a lot for that baseball guy to go to a football game.

CNUAlum9 - tell your dad to toss on an extra bubba burger!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2008, 10:10:16 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 03, 2008, 05:48:06 PM
When I said "they should invest in a better QB" . I meant, the INT's killed them.
if that's what you meant, why didn't you say it...............at any point in time over the last two weeks

just about everything from your original post has now been altered - congratulations...you should have a glorious political career :)

Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 03, 2008, 05:48:06 PMNarch's whole argument is dumb.
of course it's a dumb argument...what's the internet for if not dumb arguments :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU Dad on November 04, 2008, 11:08:15 AM
CNU85, there is always a Bubba Burger on our grill for you and yours. Look for us in Alumni parking!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 04, 2008, 12:26:51 PM
CNUWho 85!! 

Coming to the D3football Christmas party in Salem December 20th?  :D ;D :o ;D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 04, 2008, 12:35:27 PM
Quote from: Llamaguy on November 04, 2008, 12:26:51 PM
CNUWho 85!! 

Coming to the D3football Christmas party in Salem December 20th?  :D ;D :o ;D :D

Oh no!!! Probably not. Have to make the obligatory appearance at the corporate Christmas Party.  :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 04, 2008, 02:57:04 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 04, 2008, 11:38:25 AM
Narch,

I was wondering if you were a student at methodist when the infamous
hazing/sodomizing (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/methfootball1.html)  incident  took place? If so were you on the giving or receiving end of that Sharpie marker? Maybe that's why you are so uptight? Just busting your balls man. Have fun with your stats, I'll be at the game.

My level of respect for you was never all that high but after that comment it would need a ladder truck to get back in to the Mariana's Trench!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 04, 2008, 04:05:32 PM
Papi, it was just a joke. Kinda like the whole argument between Narch and I. It boiled down to a debate over what is considered late in the game. People get too uptight. Loosen up have some fun.

I'm not really concerned with who respects me. I will let my years of dedicated service speak for me. I do not give or lose respect for anyone's point of view. However, I have no respect for anyone who wishes ill fortune upon anyone or any team. Good sportsmanship applies to players as well as fans.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 04, 2008, 05:07:08 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 04, 2008, 04:05:32 PMGood sportsmanship applies to players as well as fans.
...yes it does, and you've shown this board just how classy you are

i don't want to make this personal, but you've shown exactly what happens when people are over their head intellectually in an argument - first they amend and qualify statements that they've made (check) - next, they try to change the subject (iverson vs. nash was germane to this particular debate in what way?), then they start to act as if they don't care ("narch's whole argument is dumb") and lastly they stoop, lash out and make it personal, as you have

i know you're going to (and have) defend your statement as being "just a joke", but your comment is inappropriate and in bad taste, even if meant in jest - if that's your idea of a joke, please do the world a favor and stay out of any comedy clubs

Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 04, 2008, 04:05:32 PMI'm not really concerned with who respects me.
clearly
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 04, 2008, 06:57:25 PM
Someone smarter than me check my thinking....from a standings perspective...this week's games for CNU and FC mean nothing. Even if one team, but not both, loses...the final game of the year will determine who takes the AQ. And since it is very doubtful that a conference team will get an at-large bid.....then as far as making the playoffs, this week really doesn't matter.

Of course, as a fan (and if you're a player or a coach) all games mean something - but I was just looking at it from a W-L in the standings standpoint come the end of the year.

Am I missing something or is this true?
[/quote]

This weekend is meaningless even if both teams lose. They would still be tied with one conference loss a piece.

I will say with prejudice that Ferrum is a good team. I think better than they were in the last few years. They still run the option, and statistically are ranked pretty high.

Their rushing offense is ranked 5th. in the nation.Their defense against the rush is pretty outstanding also. Ranked 34th nationally. In conference statistics show NCW ranked 1st in 7 categories, and Ferrum ranked 1st in 7 categories, There are only three team categories left. Averett, has 1 (sacks)CNU has 1, (turnover margin)and Greensboro has (Pass defense)

They are a good team. Are they as good as NCW? It will be close. I will take the Panthers, because of the home field. Are they as good as CNU? Hard to say. I think CNU is good, and that Running back must be tough...very very tough.
I have seen his numbers, and he is head and shoulders above the rest.

Can Ferrum hang with the Captains? Well I think this. Ferrum is alot better than the last time they played at Pomoco, and without Faison I believe that CNU is somewhat more average. While CNU has a strong club, It seems that this year the spotlight is on Ogun. Can Ferrum stop him...I doubt it. He is talented, and is one of those backs you hope to contain. I will say this. I think Ferrum's D  will contain him. (I hope so anyway)
I am not even going to start debating quarterbacks, but Ferrum is using a two QB system. I am not that big of a fan ot this, and I am not sure it will be as prevelant these next two weeks, but to this point, It has worked pretty well. Marcus Mayo is very athletic, and is much like Jermaine Pitts from a couple of years back. I think he will be hard to deal with by his senior year. He is a sophomore now.
Ferrum is tough, and I think they will beat NCW but it will be close. No predictions for the 15th....yet. I do not agree with Wesleydad that it is a foregone conclusion that Wesley and CNU will meet in the playoffs. Ferrum is strong, and they should not be sold short.

Ferrum only has 9 seniors this year, and only three of them are starters. It will only get better for the Panthers.

If you want to find out more about the year Ferrum has had, I have a blog.

www.ferrumfootball.blogspot.com

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 04, 2008, 08:38:08 PM
Allen C,

I can promise you one thing, CNU isn't the same team from the last time Ferrum came to visit either.  It was 2 years ago and over half the starters for CNU this year, were still in high school.  I was starting at safety and my brother(who now plays QB for CNU) was the other safety.  Roland Hillard was eating up the USA
South as was George Jones and Rob Rodriguez. And as for Tunde, he was at the University of Cincinnati.  So yeah a lot has changed since then, so it's hard to compare the differences in teams from 2 years ago.   

Comparing Mayo to Pitts is high praise.  Pitts was one of the most dynamic players I faced at the college level and if Mayo can live up to the hype, Ferrum has a very dangerous threat for the next 2 years.

As for the prediction by Wesleydad about CNU and Wesley meeting in the playoffs, I can promise you that Coach Kelchner has the boys thinking about Averett and only Averett this week.  You are absolutely right that the playoffs aren't guaranteed.  People can say what they want, but CNU will not be talking about the playoffs, until after the final horn on Nov 15.  Whether they are wishing the Panthers the best in the playoffs, or preparing for a first round matchup is yet to be determined.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 04, 2008, 09:23:26 PM
Hey nine-

Thanks for the objective posting. I know CNU was the preseason favorite, and I must say that after the first half of the Ferrum E&H game, I could not understand why Ferrum was picked second. They have gotten alot better since then.

Mayo has a lot of talent. My brother was a high school coach and scouted Rockbridge County High for a potential State playoff meeting a few years back. All he could talk about was the quaterback named Mayo. He somehow later heard that Mayo was going to Ferrum, and called me and went on and on about how good he was in the AA State playoffs.
He is not there yet, but as he matures, and if he can avoid injury, he will be something to deal with.

Do you know if the former quarterback Fasion was from Franklin? I went to Ferrum with a Jeff Fasion from Franklin. He was a good athlete, and a good ol country boy. I wonder if that was his son.

Averett has a better team than one would think, but I doubt they will provide the competition needed to stop CNU.

Well good luck over the next too weeks. I would say best of luck, but I think Ferrum will need the best of any luck available.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 05, 2008, 09:23:52 AM
Yes, Todd is in fact from Franklin (Southhampton) and I do believe that his dad did go to Ferrum.  And they are country boys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 05, 2008, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: CNU Dad on November 04, 2008, 11:08:15 AM
CNU85, there is always a Bubba Burger on our grill for you and yours. Look for us in Alumni parking!

Thanks a ton. I know my son is looking forward to it. I only wish I coulda gotten him onto the gridiron as a kid. He's got ok size...about 5'11" 185 (although I think working at the car wash this summer in the heat, he dropped to 170).  But he is SLOW!!  I just just couldn't shake him from the baseball diamond - which is not a bad thing. But I played football until 9th grade  (baseball until 10th). I always played inside LB....nothing like slapping on a helmet and sticking somebody! Some of my favorite memories of my youth involved some good hits - even the one's when I couldn't breath after clocking someone (or maybe they clocked me and that's why I couldn't catch my breath!!  :D).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2008, 05:07:04 PM
Well here are my pick for the weekend

NCWC 21

Ferrum 22


Averett 21

CNU  38


Shenandoah  19

Maryville  33


Greensboro  14

Methodist  16


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 06, 2008, 10:18:42 AM
I would have to agree with Allen C on the pics with the exception of the Greensboro v. methodist game. I think these two teams are going to put up some big points in this NC rivalry. Greensboro wins with a last minute field goal. Good luck to your boys Allen C, I'm looking forward to seeing them in person on the 15th.

Ferrum28
NCWC16


CNU35
Averett9


Shenandoah14
Maryville21


Greensboro45
Methodist42

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2008, 02:35:26 PM
My picks - and where do we stand for the year?????

FC over NCW - I think NCW will win, but I don't want FC to come to CNU with a loss and ticked off.

CNU over AU - Tunde Ogun gets 300 yds

M'ville over SU

Greensboro and Methodist end in a 0-0 tie but they each have 400 yds of offense!!! Ok - I'm cracking myself up again!  :D :D ....Let's go with Methodist since Narch knows how to spell and knows when to use "then" or "than". Plus he schooled my boy Crazylegs the past few weeks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 06, 2008, 03:15:19 PM
Ok, I will give all of you something to laugh about. However I have this funny feeling that crazy things are going to happen this weekend.

1. NCWC  vs.  Ferrum                NCWC will upset Ferrum. NCWC has
                                                      the defense that can stop Ferrum's
                                                      ground game.       

2. Greensboro  vs.  Methodist    Methodist will finally get untracked.

3. SU  vs. Maryville                      SU  They are overdue. They
                                                        played both Ferrum and CNU close
                                                        I think they are better than their
                                                        records indicate.
4. Averett vs. CNU                      Averett Two things here, CNU
                                                        might get caught looking ahead and
                                                        Averett is due for a big win and plus
                                                        how can i go against my son's team.

Good luck to everyone this weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 06, 2008, 03:24:31 PM
Kickerdad,

You gave me something to laugh about:

Quote from: kickerdad on November 06, 2008, 03:15:19 PM

1. NCWC  vs.  Ferrum                NCWC will upset Ferrum. NCWC has
                                                      the defense that can stop Ferrum's
                                                      ground game.       


This one week after NCWC's defense allowed 283 yards rushing to a one-headed horse(Tunde), just imagine what they will allow to the 3-headed horse Ferrum has with Vann-Mayo-Lucas.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 06, 2008, 03:29:38 PM
I am just trying to get everyone jump started here. Hell, Crazy and Narch have been going strong for a week now and I thought I would add a little humor to scene.

Question for you - do the CNU guys think that the general admission tickets will be sold out before the ticket booth opens at 11:00 AM Saturday morning? I am debating on whether or not to drive over there tomorrow or just wait. We have about 17 to 20 folks coming and certainly don't want them to get there and be unable to get in.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2008, 04:59:57 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 06, 2008, 03:29:38 PM
I am just trying to get everyone jump started here. Hell, Crazy and Narch have been going strong for a week now and I thought I would add a little humor to scene.

Question for you - do the CNU guys think that the general admission tickets will be sold out before the ticket booth opens at 11:00 AM Saturday morning? I am debating on whether or not to drive over there tomorrow or just wait. We have about 17 to 20 folks coming and certainly don't want them to get there and be unable to get in.

There will always be tickets. Even when the first game this year was "sold out", they were selling standing room only tix. This is homecoming weekend but I think the crowd will be a little less than the 5,000 plus earlier this year. I will check with some folks to make sure I'm correct and get back to you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 06, 2008, 07:04:12 PM
Can I ask a question? I am wondering, in the D3 top 25, why Ferrum has not gotten one vote. OK Ferrum's loss was to E&H, but they have been pretty strong since then. Statistically, they are showing well in the conference and nationally in some categories.

I think Ferrum needs to stop scheduling teams like Southern Virginia, and schedule a team like Salisbury. If you want to be ranked with the big dogs, you need to beat a few. Or at least play them to get better. So the best I can come up with is strength of schedule. Are there other factors? Should Ferrum get a little more respect? They did beat Bridgewater, and I thought they usually have a good program.

My own analysis is that they don't compete with strong enough out of conference opponents.
Maybe if they end 9-1, they will be looked at more closely.

I mean no disrespect Pat, but I would like to hear yours, and other opinions.

Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2008, 08:16:08 PM
USA South (http://www.d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=Playoffs&id=39) is not one of the stronger conferences.

They are 3-9 in the playoffs since the Pools began in 1999.  That comes out as #21 among the conferences (including all independents as one conference.)  The NCWC win over W&J last season was a good start towards the reputation of the conference.

I think that it will take a playoff win by Ferrum to crack the top 25 this year.   :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2008, 08:49:17 PM
CNU has recieved some votes. Look at Ryan Tipps ATR column for the mid-atlantic. His foggy glasses have Ferrum as a top 5 in this "mini" region,  but not CNU. I think a lot has to do with personal perspective in the top 25. There ae way too many teams in D3 that even the pollsters are voting on teams in which they have very little first hand knowledge. With D1 schools, there is so much media coverage, you have a better idea about the teams.

I'm waiting for Tipps to wipe off his glasses and either ut CNU in the top 5 or drop Ferrum out of it. I think it has something to do with the whiskey bottle in the picture. I noticed it isn't as full as it was at the beginning of the year. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2008, 08:50:31 PM
Kickerdad,

A CNU guy told me you wil be ok getting tix at the gate before game time. Let's meet somewhere just before the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 06, 2008, 09:17:31 PM
Anybody, catch Obama's comment about D-1 football needing a playoff system? In my opinion, a playoff system would make even more money than the bowl games. Plus they can still have the sponsors for each game. I think its only a matter of time until the pressure gets too much for the D-1 reps. I just hope I'm still alive to see it happen.

I know I always felt like a kid on christmas morning the day the brackets came out. Not knowing who we were going to be matched up against was always a thrill.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 06, 2008, 09:30:06 PM

I think that it will take a playoff win by Ferrum to crack the top 25 this year.   :)

I was not even considering the top 25, I am just dissapointed they have not been voted for. I agree that the USA South is not the most strong conference, but does that not apply to all teams in the conference? If that was the reason, I think CNU would be voteless also. That takes me back to strength of schedule....plus probably reputation, which the Captains have a well deserved one.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 06, 2008, 09:46:25 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 06, 2008, 07:04:12 PM
I think Ferrum needs to stop scheduling teams like Southern Virginia, and schedule a team like Salisbury.

Or get Wesley back on the schedule. I think they're still struggling to get games and Ferrum dumped them a couple years ago, fairly late in the summer in fact.

Ferrum hasn't played the best two teams on a fairly ordinary schedule so far.

Massey Ratings have Ferrum at No. 61. Seems reasonable.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 06, 2008, 10:10:21 PM
I will have to plead ignorance about the Massey Ratings. I am not familiar with that rating. I will be soon. Thanks for that.

I really want to see Ferrum set their sights on the playoffs,  (As an approach to a season) CNU has done their program a world of good by scheduling teams like Wesley, Salisbury etc., and even last year when Averett took it on the chin from  (was it MHB?) they took a positive step. You cannot really improve unless you raise the bar.

I would love to see their non conference games be something like:

E&H
Hampden Sydney
Wesley

Or maybe even more challenging.The point is they have to turn it up a notch...or two. Getting beat by a stronger school, is no disgrace, and it makes you stronger in the long run.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 06, 2008, 10:42:25 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 06, 2008, 10:10:21 PM
I will have to plead ignorance about the Massey Ratings. I am not familiar with that rating. I will be soon. Thanks for that.

I really want to see Ferrum set their sights on the playoffs,  (As an approach to a season) CNU has done their program a world of good by scheduling teams like Wesley, Salisbury etc., and even last year when Averett took it on the chin from  (was it MHB?) they took a positive step. You cannot really improve unless you raise the bar.

I would love to see their non conference games be something like:

E&H
Hampden Sydney
Wesley

Or maybe even more challenging.The point is they have to turn it up a notch...or two. Getting beat by a stronger school, is no disgrace, and it makes you stronger in the long run.




Wesley was on the schedule as far back as the two teams jr college days but the  decison was made by Ferrum that they didn't want to play Wesley any more..And as Pat stated late in the summer leaving Wesley in another scheduling mess that year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 06, 2008, 10:46:32 PM
I am not sure of the circumstances that led to that, but I think that was short sighted on the part of the Panthers.

They really need to push themselves through improved non conference competition.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 07, 2008, 12:42:11 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 06, 2008, 08:49:17 PM
CNU has recieved some votes. Look at Ryan Tipps ATR column for the mid-atlantic. His foggy glasses have Ferrum as a top 5 in this "mini" region,  but not CNU.

Hmmm, coming from you, I can take this with a grain of salt.  ;)

However, I did pore through a few of my person qualms and whatnot when it came to putting Ferrum on my Top 5 list back on Oct. 7. It wasn't an easy choice, and I tried to explain it so that it would seem to be at least a reasonable decision -- even if some thought it wasn't 100 percent objective.

Since then, though, I just haven't punished the Panthers for their continued win streak. Honestly, Ferrum, CNU, Catholic and H-SC are all pretty even in my mind.

But, just for funzies, CNU and FC have lined up pretty evenly when you compare them via common opponents.
Against Shenandoah: CNU won by 10, FC by 2
Against Methodist: CNU won by 14, FC by 18
Against Maryville: CNU won by 7, FC by 14
Against Greensboro: CNU won by 33, FC by 25

All in all, I think that it'll be a great game when the Panthers and Captains take the field against each other next week!  :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 07, 2008, 12:44:27 AM
Quote from: Allen C on November 06, 2008, 10:10:21 PM
I would love to see their non conference games be something like:
E&H
Hampden Sydney
Wesley

Looks like a good nonconference sked to me, too!

I don't see Ferrum beating Wesley in the near future, but I could've said that about the first time I saw CNU play UMHB, or CNU play Rowan. It would happen. Tougher opponents will make your team tougher over time.

I'd like to see Ferrum dump SoVa for the simple fact that that game doesn't count for anything.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 07, 2008, 07:56:57 AM
Quote from: Allen C on November 06, 2008, 07:04:12 PM
Can I ask a question? I am wondering, in the D3 top 25, why Ferrum has not gotten one vote. OK Ferrum's loss was to E&H, but they have been pretty strong since then. Statistically, they are showing well in the conference and nationally in some categories.

I think Ferrum needs to stop scheduling teams like Southern Virginia, and schedule a team like Salisbury. If you want to be ranked with the big dogs, you need to beat a few. Or at least play them to get better. So the best I can come up with is strength of schedule. Are there other factors? Should Ferrum get a little more respect? They did beat Bridgewater, and I thought they usually have a good program.

My own analysis is that they don't compete with strong enough out of conference opponents.
Maybe if they end 9-1, they will be looked at more closely.

I mean no disrespect Pat, but I would like to hear yours, and other opinions.

Thanks!

From reading the news from the region that Mount Union is in, they (Mount Union) are begging for out of conference opponents. I know they beat the crap out of Averett, but in 2006 that was a huge learning experience for Averett. They played Wesley the very next week and managed to hang with them for a half or more but after that, they ran the conference with exception of CNU which was a good game and really came down to the final 5 or 6 minutes of the game. I know CNU85 was on the edge of his seat for a while - haha.

Bottom line USA-South teams need to schedule more out of conference games with teams like Wesley, Mount Union, etc. I know CNU has been doing this now for a couple of years. That is the only way our conference is going to grow and get more attention as well as experience at playing at a higher level. Averett took the plunge 3 years ago with Mount Union, Wesley, and this year they took on Bridgewater. Bridgewater may be having a so-so season but they have been to the top of the mountain.

Oh well, that's my two cents worth. It may get me a moon pie and RC Cola, I will have to work a little harder to get the BBQ to go with it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 07, 2008, 07:59:29 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 06, 2008, 08:50:31 PM
Kickerdad,

A CNU guy told me you wil be ok getting tix at the gate before game time. Let's meet somewhere just before the game.

Where are you going to be. I am going to try to get in the "N" lot again. That worked good for us year before last.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2008, 09:03:06 AM
I will be wandering around with my son....eating the world famous Long Family Bubba Burgers (without the special sauce!)

Tell me what to look for and I will find you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2008, 09:09:14 AM
CNU has played 81 games since they started football. When they played Salisbury this year, that was the 24th ranked team they have played. 24 out of 81. If the Wesley game had been played, make it 25/82. That's how you schedule! Gotta love it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 07, 2008, 09:24:10 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 07, 2008, 07:56:57 AM
Quote from: Allen C on November 06, 2008, 07:04:12 PM
Can I ask a question? I am wondering, in the D3 top 25, why Ferrum has not gotten one vote. OK Ferrum's loss was to E&H, but they have been pretty strong since then. Statistically, they are showing well in the conference and nationally in some categories.

I think Ferrum needs to stop scheduling teams like Southern Virginia, and schedule a team like Salisbury. If you want to be ranked with the big dogs, you need to beat a few. Or at least play them to get better. So the best I can come up with is strength of schedule. Are there other factors? Should Ferrum get a little more respect? They did beat Bridgewater, and I thought they usually have a good program.

My own analysis is that they don't compete with strong enough out of conference opponents.
Maybe if they end 9-1, they will be looked at more closely.

I mean no disrespect Pat, but I would like to hear yours, and other opinions.

Thanks!

From reading the news from the region that Mount Union is in, they (Mount Union) are begging for out of conference opponents. I know they beat the crap out of Averett, but in 2006 that was a huge learning experience for Averett. They played Wesley the very next week and managed to hang with them for a half or more but after that, they ran the conference with exception of CNU which was a good game and really came down to the final 5 or 6 minutes of the game. I know CNU85 was on the edge of his seat for a while - haha.

Bottom line USA-South teams need to schedule more out of conference games with teams like Wesley, Mount Union, etc. I know CNU has been doing this now for a couple of years. That is the only way our conference is going to grow and get more attention as well as experience at playing at a higher level. Averett took the plunge 3 years ago with Mount Union, Wesley, and this year they took on Bridgewater. Bridgewater may be having a so-so season but they have been to the top of the mountain.

Oh well, that's my two cents worth. It may get me a moon pie and RC Cola, I will have to work a little harder to get the BBQ to go with it.

Playing teams at a higher level has got to improve recruiting as well. Speaking of recruiting another issue that I am sure all teams is troubled with (with exception of the big dogs) is attempting to make sure you have balance in your numbers. By that I mean Averett lost 26 Seniors 2 years ago but didn't have the numbers to step in and take over. Look at Mount Union - they lose large numbers every year, but with the recruiting process they have, they don't blink an eye. They have back-ups after back-ups that are waiting to jump in and take over. These back-ups are normally just as good as the ones that left by the time training camp is over and the first game is played. Averett for example lost the 26 seniors in 06 and in 07 they had less than 10 seniors. I know, I know, players drop out of the program for various reasons, but you have to be prepared for that.

Hell, I need to get off this soap box. Good luck to everyone this weekend, drive safely and behave yourselves.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 07, 2008, 01:55:30 PM
scheduling is such a tough thing because there is so much more than "let's play the best/worst teams we can"...there are budgetary concerns, coaching relationships, traditional games, regional rivalries, etc.

while i would like to know how mu really stacks up with some of the other teams in the region in most years (it's pretty obvious this year :)), i don't want to lose any of the games on the mu slate right now - gcq and mu have played in every season mu has had football and it makes sense from a budget/regional standpoint to play them, ehc vs. mu has been a very competitive series and the campbell vs. mu series seems like it could be a GREAT regional rivalry game with lots of fan interest (as long as cu remains d1aa non-scholarship) - i could see that game drawing 2,500+ every year for a long time...of course, crazydude is probably going to point out that mu doesn't have a good enough qb to worry about who is on the schedule :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 07, 2008, 02:21:18 PM
Yeah, maybe methodist could find some NC high schools to schedule. That would satisfy the budgetary needs and pad those stats!  ;D

Just yanking your chain Narch, don't get all huffy and puffy again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 07, 2008, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 07, 2008, 09:03:06 AM
I will be wandering around with my son....eating the world famous Long Family Bubba Burgers (ithout hte special sauce!)

Tell me what to look for and I will find you.

85,

I am going to try to get to the N lot and set up. Silver Jeep with 4 Averett flags, blue tent and hopefully moms good smelling Chilli filling the air. If I can't get in the N lot (which I hope to get there around 9:30, then who knows where we will end up.

Look forward to meeting you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 07, 2008, 03:17:55 PM
Well I am headed to Ferrum to see the Panthers whip some Bishop butt. (I will settle for a win however)
Looking forward to seeing a lot of old friends. Everyone have a great weekend, and get ready for the 15th. It should be a barn burner.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2008, 04:48:37 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 07, 2008, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 07, 2008, 09:03:06 AM
I will be wandering around with my son....eating the world famous Long Family Bubba Burgers (ithout hte special sauce!)

Tell me what to look for and I will find you.

85,

I am going to try to get to the N lot and set up. Silver Jeep with 4 Averett flags, blue tent and hopefully moms good smelling Chilli filling the air. If I can't get in the N lot (which I hope to get there around 9:30, then who knows where we will end up.

Look forward to meeting you.

I'll stumble around and find you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 08, 2008, 12:51:00 AM
Ferrum 24
NCWC 21


CNU 42
Averett 17


Shenandoah 20
Maryville 38


Greensboro 17
Methodist 20
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 08, 2008, 12:02:04 PM
Rainy day, I don't think I will make it to the game today. Haha, that'll be the day.
Goooooooo CNU!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 08, 2008, 12:24:16 PM
I have made it to Ferrum, and we have perfect football weather. Only concern, is that the game time has been switched to 2 p.m. These are 2 evenly matched teams, and if we have an overtime, darkness could be an issue. No lights at Ferrum. :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 08, 2008, 03:35:47 PM
Averett throws an interception with 2 minutes to go.
CNU taking knees to run the clock out at the CNU 40.

Cougars played exceptional ball the 2nd half. Wish I was at the game.


CNU wins 19-13.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2008, 04:12:19 PM
Wow! I was thinking during the 3rd qt that AU was showing me nothing. CNU was up 16-0....running the ball at will. Coasting. I think maybe the CNU players were thinking the same thing. But when the sun came out and started to warm things up, so did the AU team. Kudos for them - they didn't give up. CNU then responded. What a great end to a game. CNU needs to play better next week.

And the defensive secondary - even with some picks and some big plays, still gives up too many yards and too many catches and allows too many key plays to be made. I noticed one of the DB player's family members wasn't pleased with the radio announcers who were most likely telling it like it is. The CNU pass defense will not stand up in the playoffs. BUT - they better play better next weekend, or they will not be n the playoffs.

And speaking of playoffs - as far as I'm concerned....and I know the CNU coaches feel them same way - the playoffs have started for CNU....win and play again....lose and you get to go home!

Ogun was a beast again....228 yds. That's 765yds in the past 3 weeks!!!

Kickerdad....it was nice to see you before the game. Give your son a little grief for lining up on the wrong side of the field for a kickoff in the 4th qt. I'm still trying to figure out how 11 guys do that.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 08, 2008, 04:16:05 PM
I was really impressed by the grittiness of Averett in the 2nd half. The kids on defense were fired up and the offense seem to move the ball well. Unfortunately CNU's defense was not budging in the 1st half. And Tunde was running to the tune of 200+ yards again. I have to wonder what the game would have been like without such sloppy field conditions.

Bring on Ferrum!!!! last time I checked they were down 7 in the 3rd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2008, 04:21:00 PM
Crazy....where are you getting the Ferrum score?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2008, 04:23:01 PM
OH WOW!!!! I have livestats on the FC/NCW game.

1:18 left in 3rd NCW up 34-14
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2008, 05:01:07 PM
41-14 NCW beats Ferrum. I don't like this at all. Ferrum to lose 2 games to end the season? That's what CNU will hope for. I'm glad this game is at POMOCO.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2008, 05:04:18 PM
HA! The good news about the Ferrum loss....now Tipps will have to take them out of his top 5 in the Mid-Atlantic.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 08, 2008, 05:59:22 PM
Wow, Ferrum really stumbled there. We knew NCWC was good from last weeks results but this surprises me. I wish I were there so i could see how they got it done.

With the Ferrum loss, CNU now owns at least a share of the title and hopefully by this time next week we will own it outright. Boys get ready 'cause the black hats are gonna be pi$$ed and ready to kill for that championship.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 08, 2008, 06:54:41 PM
the monarchs were dominant in the ground game today, racking up 253 yards against the pride to win 20-10 - scales ran really hard today and showed a burst that i haven't seen much this season, mcguire was a bowling ball, bouncing off guys and layton flat out hammered some guys as a lead blocker and running the ball today - teague had a tough day, going 4-16 for 31 yards and 2 picks, but the monarchs didn't need him to put up big yards to win today - that was a much needed victory for mu - maybe they can make it 2 straight next weekend...sure would be nice

crazylegs - please stop sending me messages...you're not going to convince me that big ben is better than peyton manning
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2008, 07:19:01 PM
DeRon Brown of MIT needs 178 yds tonight to keep his lead over Tunde Ogun! Otherwise, Ogun becomes the D3 rushing leader with one game to go!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 08, 2008, 08:53:21 PM
will the usasac return to it's pre 2007 form next weekend, and crown a co-champion, or do the captains have their first outright championship in sight?  should be a fun week/weekend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 08, 2008, 09:53:20 PM
Kickerdad....it was nice to see you before the game. Give your son a little grief for lining up on the wrong side of the field for a kickoff in the 4th qt. I'm still trying to figure out how 11 guys do that.  ;D
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CNU85,

It was an honor to finally meet you and your son. You have a fine looking lad and I know you are proud.

We enjoyed our time at CNU today, I think the fans got their monies worth.

Sorry, but that wasn't my son on the kickoff. Mine only kicks extra points and field goals. He will occassionaly do kick off's if number 10 is hurt. Bottom line, ever since he had the hair line fracture in his hip, he hasn't been able to kick it as far. I think he is scared he will do some damage.

Congrats on CNU's win and good luck next week against Ferrum. Looks like they got their clocks cleaned today so not sure which team will show up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 09, 2008, 10:39:27 AM
CNU better step up next week!! Our running game is carrying us. Tunde is a beast. We need to find a passing game and tighten up our secondary before next weekend. I believe that Ferrum will come in to Pomoco with a big chip on their shoulder. Still can't believe that Wesleyan took it to Ferrum like they did. I have been trying to find a game summary or article to see what Wesleyan's stats looked like. Please post a link if anyone knows where to find that data. Turned out to be a nice day in Newport News after huddling under a tent for 2 hours trying to stay dry. The sun came out right at kickoff.

We have a large group of CNU and Ferrum alumni tailgating next weekend. Let me know if anyone is interested in combining efforts for one big tailgating bash. Go Captains!!!

I would be curious to know what kind of passing game Ferrum has. Thanks!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 09, 2008, 12:10:22 PM
TC,
Here's the FC v. NCWC stats (http://www.ferrumpanthers.com/custompages/Football/2008/FC1108.HTM)
Ferrum went a whopping 1 of 12 passing with about 300 rushing yards. NC Wesleyan ran up and astonishing 600 yards of offense split evenly about 300 on the ground and 300 by air. Click the link above if you want to see the complete stats.

Think about how scary this is, NCWC was 1 point away from being repeat champs. If CNU doesn't make the last second FG NCWC is sitting at 6-1(conf.) with a head to head tie breaker. If they win saturday, it has to make NC Wesleyan sick knowing they were one point from the playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 09, 2008, 04:13:53 PM
Well I just got back from a long damn depressing ride, and really cannot tell you what happened. I had not seem the stats, until just now, and i think they tell the story. It could have been worse, as NCW had the ball inside the 5 twice in the 1st half and did not score.
They completly dominated Ferrum. I have to say that the score did not reflect how bad it went for Ferrum.

I hope they can put it behind them and realize they MUST refocus and take advantage of the chance to represent the USA South.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 09, 2008, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 08, 2008, 05:04:18 PM
HA! The good news about the Ferrum loss....now Tipps will have to take them out of his top 5 in the Mid-Atlantic.

I've held my tongue about this until now....even prior to Ferrum losing yesterday, they had lost at home to E&H, while CNU had lost on the road at Salisbury.  Comparing their lone losses should have been enough to give CNU the edge.  Also, Wilkes was a much better out of conference opponent than Southern VA or Bridgewater.  Even though we barely beat them and their record is not good, they've played a lot of good teams tough.

Isn't Tipps' wife a graduate of Ferrum?  Could Ferrum have been his sentimental favorite?;)  I'm obviously biased, Ryan, but I think CNU is better than Ferrum....we'll see if I'm right this Saturday.

GO CAPS! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 09, 2008, 04:39:44 PM
Quote from: swish3 on November 09, 2008, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 08, 2008, 05:04:18 PM
HA! The good news about the Ferrum loss....now Tipps will have to take them out of his top 5 in the Mid-Atlantic.

I've held my tongue about this until now....even prior to Ferrum losing yesterday, they had lost at home to E&H, while CNU had lost on the road at Salisbury.  Comparing their lone losses should have been enough to give CNU the edge.  Also, Wilkes was a much better out of conference opponent than Southern VA or Bridgewater.  Even though we barely beat them and their record is not good, they've played a lot of good teams tough.

Isn't Tipps' wife a graduate of Ferrum?  Could Ferrum have been his sentimental favorite?;)  I'm obviously biased, Ryan, but I think CNU is better than Ferrum....we'll see if I'm right this Saturday.

GO CAPS! 

Didn't I already cover this in my reply to CNU85? And it's posted very clearly in bio that my wife is a Ferrum grad -- so that shouldn't even need to be asked.

Back in early October when I first picked Ferrum in my top five, I addressed the very specific issue of stepping away from it and looking at it objectively -- and I believe I was doing that in that instance. Heck, I've seen twice as many CNU games in my lifetime as I have Ferrum ones. Maybe Panthers fans should be the ones crying foul  ;)

Here's the (suprisingly even) score comparison I used when CNU85 also brought this topic up just last week. Of course, this was prior to the NCWC game:

Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 07, 2008, 12:42:11 AM
But, just for funzies, CNU and FC have lined up pretty evenly when you compare them via common opponents.
Against Shenandoah: CNU won by 10, FC by 2
Against Methodist: CNU won by 14, FC by 18
Against Maryville: CNU won by 7, FC by 14
Against Greensboro: CNU won by 33, FC by 25

Don't sweat it too much though. After an FC loss and an unimpressive CNU win, I don't expect either team will be in my top five this coming week.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 09, 2008, 04:43:04 PM
WOW Crazy Legs!!! I can't believe those stats. NC Wesleyan really blew up.  I hope CNU comes ready to play on Saturday. For anyone interested our group will start tailgating at 10am in Alumni Alley. Anyone who wants to come hang out send me an email at tcoffey@crpartners.net.  :)  See you Saturday!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 09, 2008, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 09, 2008, 04:39:44 PM
Quote from: swish3 on November 09, 2008, 04:21:08 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 08, 2008, 05:04:18 PM
HA! The good news about the Ferrum loss....now Tipps will have to take them out of his top 5 in the Mid-Atlantic.

I've held my tongue about this until now....even prior to Ferrum losing yesterday, they had lost at home to E&H, while CNU had lost on the road at Salisbury.  Comparing their lone losses should have been enough to give CNU the edge.  Also, Wilkes was a much better out of conference opponent than Southern VA or Bridgewater.  Even though we barely beat them and their record is not good, they've played a lot of good teams tough.

Isn't Tipps' wife a graduate of Ferrum?  Could Ferrum have been his sentimental favorite?;)  I'm obviously biased, Ryan, but I think CNU is better than Ferrum....we'll see if I'm right this Saturday.

GO CAPS! 

Didn't I already cover this in my reply to CNU85? And it's posted very clearly in bio that my wife is a Ferrum grad -- so that shouldn't even need to be asked.

Back in early October when I first picked Ferrum in my top five, I addressed the very specific issue of stepping away from it and looking at it objectively -- and I believe I was doing that in that instance. Heck, I've seen twice as many CNU games in my lifetime as I have Ferrum ones. Maybe Panthers fans should be the ones crying foul  ;)

Here's the (suprisingly even) score comparison I used when CNU85 also brought this topic up just last week. Of course, this was prior to the NCWC game:

Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 07, 2008, 12:42:11 AM
But, just for funzies, CNU and FC have lined up pretty evenly when you compare them via common opponents.
Against Shenandoah: CNU won by 10, FC by 2
Against Methodist: CNU won by 14, FC by 18
Against Maryville: CNU won by 7, FC by 14
Against Greensboro: CNU won by 33, FC by 25

Don't sweat it too much though. After an FC loss and an unimpressive CNU win, I don't expect either team will be in my top five this coming week.  :)

Common opponents aside, prior to yesterday of course ;), my other two points give CNU the advantage....at least in my mind.  I guess I'm crazy?:P

Don't worry, I won't sweat it....you have your opinion and I have mine....let's see how it plays out Saturday.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 09, 2008, 05:38:17 PM
That's fine Tipps, don't put us in the top 5. We don't need no stinking rankings! Just win baby! Goooooo CNU!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 09, 2008, 06:24:26 PM
#23 in latest Top 25.

But all I want is a W this weekend!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 09, 2008, 06:36:09 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 09, 2008, 05:38:17 PM
That's fine Tipps, don't put us in the top 5. We don't need no stinking rankings! Just win baby! Goooooo CNU!!!

Honestly, this is absolutely the right attitude to take about this! :)

The best thing I've found with my "High Five" ranking is not whether I'm right or wrong (I'm often wrong ;)), but it's the fresh and interesting conversations and critiques that have ensued on the message boards or via email.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 09, 2008, 07:41:18 PM
Hey Tipps,

Are you headed to Newport News this week?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 09, 2008, 07:54:22 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 09, 2008, 07:41:18 PM
Hey Tipps,

Are you headed to Newport News this week?

Alas, no. It's my annual pilgrimage to Indiana for my alma mater's rivalry game. Can you send me txt updates again this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 09, 2008, 08:29:25 PM
Ryan,

I will keep you updated.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2008, 12:15:25 AM
Congrats to the Fighting Scots on beating Shenandoah 23-20.  A win next Saturday against Averettt will give them their 5th conference win and their most since joining USA-South.....

Game got to be alot closer with 2 late TD's in the last 6 minutes of the game for the Hornets....  MC's secondary had too many breakdowns against a team that doesn't throw the ball that well....  Solid day by the Scots offensive line and Hightower is 80 yards away from setting the school's rushing record....  LB Chewning and DT Harris were very impressive...

I think Shenandoah is 1 year away from being a very good football team.  Their defense in not very big, but can run and fly to the football.  Joe Jacoby's coaching on their offensive line is very evident.  Their roster lists only 6 seniors on the team.  If they can find a more efficient QB, combine their passing with a strong running game and an aggressive defense, they will be much better in 2009.

Hope to make the trip with a couple of my friends to Danville, VA to cheer on the Fighting Scots........
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 10, 2008, 08:52:44 AM
85, if your numbers for DeRon Brown were right, we should see Tunde on top of Division 3 for Rushing yards per game. He netted 177 in his final game of the season.

That puts Tunde #2 in yards per game in ALL of college football behind only Jerry Seymour of Glenville State (D-2).

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tcheadhunter on November 10, 2008, 09:23:15 AM
I'm nervous about the #23 ranking. Although a W is a W, I am nervous about CNU's recent play. I think we are over rated and I hope our guys don't let this go to their heads. Our secondary needs a lot of work and we need to find some sort of passing game. CNU needs to start putting teams away. These last 2 weekends were too close for comfort. I hope Coach Kelchner is able to work out some of these problems this week. Tunde is a beast but he can't carry us against top ranked teams.

I can't wait for this weekend. Go Captains!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2008, 12:20:43 PM
Quote from: tcheadhunter on November 10, 2008, 09:23:15 AM
I'm nervous about the #23 ranking. Although a W is a W, I am nervous about CNU's recent play. I think we are over rated and I hope our guys don't let this go to their heads. Our secondary needs a lot of work and we need to find some sort of passing game. CNU needs to start putting teams away. These last 2 weekends were too close for comfort. I hope Coach Kelchner is able to work out some of these problems this week. Tunde is a beast but he can't carry us against top ranked teams.

I can't wait for this weekend. Go Captains!!!!!

Exactly. Can't add anything to that post. It's 100% spot on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2008, 06:24:24 PM
Is it Saturday yet? What a great weekend for football. My High School wins in the playoffs. CNU wins and is ranked. My grad school alma mater wins and is #14 in the D1 FCS poll and finally the Vikings beat the Packers - and it was on local TV! What a weekend for football!!

But my fantasy team was sucking wind. Dropped 2 places to 6th in the year to date standings. That's a few hundred bucks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 10, 2008, 08:34:46 PM
85,

Don't tell me you're a Vikings fan! Just when I thought I we saw eye to eye on everything. My roommate is a HUGE Vikings fan so I kinda support em. But all bets are off come sunday. My Buccaneers are going to show AP what a real defense looks like!

Goooooo CNU!!

Goooooo BUCS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2008, 08:55:16 PM
Yeah, he'll only gain 175 yds. Have you noticed the similarities between AP and TO (Tunde Ogun)? Ogun is the d3 version of AP.

I've gone to two Vikings v Bucs games in Tampa......Bucs won them both. I'm never going back there to watch a game. Next year I'm thinking about making the pilgrimage to Minneapolis to catch a game.

Skol Vikings!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 11, 2008, 07:41:03 AM
With only one game remaining in regular season, my Bishops will not make the playoffs. But, the players, staff, and fans should be very proud of the progress this team has made in its tenure in football. I was a little concerned when Ginn left the program, but I like the way Henninger coaches and the staff he has put together. I watched these kids in practice before the season and it was obvious the winning spirit still exists and based on this years performance I think demonstrates that the Bishops will be a team to reckon with hopefully for a long time. Regardless of the outcome of the final game, they have performed well and Bo Jordan has done an exceptional job leading the team on the field. It is obvious CNU has the track to go forth in the playoffs. I wish them well and I hope they represent the conference with not only victories but class, becaues it is a class program. So after this week, I will say with pride, Go Captains!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 11, 2008, 09:24:18 AM
CNU still has to get there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 11, 2008, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: Old Blackbird on November 11, 2008, 07:41:03 AM
With only one game remaining in regular season, my Bishops will not make the playoffs. But, the players, staff, and fans should be very proud of the progress this team has made in its tenure in football. I was a little concerned when Ginn left the program, but I like the way Henninger coaches and the staff he has put together.

The lead story of my column this week is a Q&A with Henninger. It should be posted sometime today, just fyi.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 11, 2008, 06:23:42 PM
Nice interview, Ryan. I did an interview before the season with him about DIII football, infortunanely the paper decided to run something on DI instead. He is a heckava nice guy. I think the program is comming along fine, we need to just get the interest in the Bishops a little stronger in the area. It will get there, but the work continues!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 11, 2008, 09:14:20 PM
Tipps.....BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO   HIIIISSSSSSSSSSSS.

You left CNU out of your top 5 just to laugh in my face!!! I'm going to find a way to get you back!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 11, 2008, 10:51:57 PM
Quote from: Old Blackbird on November 11, 2008, 06:23:42 PM
Nice interview, Ryan. I did an interview before the season with him about DIII football, infortunanely the paper decided to run something on DI instead. He is a heckava nice guy. I think the program is comming along fine, we need to just get the interest in the Bishops a little stronger in the area. It will get there, but the work continues!

Thanks Blackbird! I really liked talking to him. This is a weird, short week for me, otherwise I probably would've liked to talk to him even more and flesh out more details. Maybe next season  ;)


Quote from: CNU85 on November 11, 2008, 09:14:20 PM
Tipps.....BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO   HIIIISSSSSSSSSSSS.

You left CNU out of your top 5 just to laugh in my face!!! I'm going to find a way to get you back!!  :D :D :D

Hey, it was full disclosure when I said yesterday or the day before on the message board that they weren't going to be in there  ;)  Nah, I don't do things to spite people. You know me, and that ain't my style.

Nonetheless, ways CNU85 can get back at me:
-- Falsely text me updates to Saturday's game saying that Ferrum keeps scoring and rolling up the yards, only for me to find out that the Panthers were really on the losing end of a 52-7 rout.
-- Invite me to tailgate with you at the CNU/Salisbury game next year, only to feed me tofu burgers and Tang.
-- Root for DePauw this weekend  >:(

;D ;D

I'm hitting the road early tomorrow morning for Indiana. Seriously, though I hope Ferrum wins, good luck and health to both teams. The conference's playoff rep(-resentative and -utation) will hing on it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 12, 2008, 05:44:27 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 11, 2008, 10:51:57 PM
Quote from: Old Blackbird on November 11, 2008, 06:23:42 PM
Nice interview, Ryan. I did an interview before the season with him about DIII football, infortunanely the paper decided to run something on DI instead. He is a heckava nice guy. I think the program is comming along fine, we need to just get the interest in the Bishops a little stronger in the area. It will get there, but the work continues!

Thanks Blackbird! I really liked talking to him. This is a weird, short week for me, otherwise I probably would've liked to talk to him even more and flesh out more details. Maybe next season  ;)


Quote from: CNU85 on November 11, 2008, 09:14:20 PM
Tipps.....BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO   HIIIISSSSSSSSSSSS.

You left CNU out of your top 5 just to laugh in my face!!! I'm going to find a way to get you back!!  :D :D :D

Hey, it was full disclosure when I said yesterday or the day before on the message board that they weren't going to be in there  ;)  Nah, I don't do things to spite people. You know me, and that ain't my style.

Nonetheless, ways CNU85 can get back at me:
-- Falsely text me updates to Saturday's game saying that Ferrum keeps scoring and rolling up the yards, only for me to find out that the Panthers were really on the losing end of a 52-7 rout.
-- Invite me to tailgate with you at the CNU/Salisbury game next year, only to feed me tofu burgers and Tang.
-- Root for DePauw this weekend  >:(

;D ;D

I'm hitting the road early tomorrow morning for Indiana. Seriously, though I hope Ferrum wins, good luck and health to both teams. The conference's playoff rep(-resentative and -utation) will hing on it!

     Now that's funny right there!! Or he could serve you ostrich burgers like in the Miller High Life commercial. :D GO TIGERS...GO PANTHERS... GO SCOTS...GO LITTLE GIANTS!!! Little Giants? What the @%&*? LOL  OK Ryan, I know there has to be a story behind that nickname. Do tell.
     Safe travels.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 12, 2008, 10:26:24 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 11, 2008, 10:51:57 PM
Seriously, though I hope Ferrum wins, good luck and health to both teams. The conference's playoff rep(-resentative and -utation) will hing on it!

All this talk of CNU being too one-dimensional to compete in the playoffs and we want to send the most one-dimensional team in the conference to the playoffs?  That would be great representation.  The one time Ferrum has represented the USA South in the playoffs they got handed a 59-14 loss to Wesley.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 12, 2008, 11:26:42 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 11, 2008, 10:51:57 PM

-- Falsely text me updates to Saturday's game saying that Ferrum keeps scoring and rolling up the yards, only for me to find out that the Panthers were really on the losing end of a 52-7 rout.

already thought of that one!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 12, 2008, 11:33:51 AM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on November 12, 2008, 10:26:24 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 11, 2008, 10:51:57 PM
Seriously, though I hope Ferrum wins, good luck and health to both teams. The conference's playoff rep(-resentative and -utation) will hing on it!

All this talk of CNU being too one-dimensional to compete in the playoffs and we want to send the most one-dimensional team in the conference to the playoffs?  That would be great representation.  The one time Ferrum has represented the USA South in the playoffs they got handed a 59-14 loss to Wesley.

Kinda like the first time CNU went to the playoffs against Widener. I think CNU will do ok in the first round IF they get past Ferrum. The Bishop Beating FC took last week has me nervous. They are going to be ticked......NCW didn't do CNU any favors by stirring that hornet's nest.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 12, 2008, 11:41:13 AM
You mean Panther's nest. ha ha.

3 days 1 hour and 19 minutes til kickoff...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 12, 2008, 11:51:25 AM
or is it panthers' den? or maybe pack? or pod? ha

anybody wanna place bets on the combined rushing yards for the CNU/Ferrum game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 12, 2008, 01:50:21 PM
That game has a chance to be played in under an hour with the clock only stopping for first downs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 12, 2008, 02:03:58 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 12, 2008, 11:51:25 AManybody wanna place bets on the combined rushing yards for the CNU/Ferrum game?
Rush yards: CNU - 194, FC - 188 = 382 TOTAL
Pass yards: CNU - 78 , FC 118 = 196 TOTAL
Score:  CNU 27, FC 20

and i think the monarchs will win this weekend to finish on a 2 game win streak :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 12, 2008, 02:36:06 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on November 12, 2008, 05:44:27 AM
     Now that's funny right there!! Or he could serve you ostrich burgers like in the Miller High Life commercial. :D GO TIGERS...GO PANTHERS... GO SCOTS...GO LITTLE GIANTS!!! Little Giants? What the @%&*? LOL  OK Ryan, I know there has to be a story behind that nickname. Do tell.
     Safe travels.

The Little Giants moniker goes back to a coach who used it in 1905. A reporter from an Indianapolis newspaper heard him and ran with it in an article. It stuck! :)

I'm in the middle of Ohio now.....sigh.....6 hours down, 6 more to go.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 12, 2008, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 12, 2008, 11:33:51 AM
Kinda like the first time CNU went to the playoffs against Widener.

Yeah, but it was CNU's first year of existence, so even making the playoffs was a great accomplishment for that team.  Whereas, Ferrum has had football since Chris Warren wore a leather helmet there in the 50's.  :D

Not to take anything away from that Ferrum team (because they were very good), but it shows that being one-dimensional in the playoffs hurts you.

Either way, I hope CNU handles business this weekend so that we can represent the USA South in the playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 12, 2008, 04:22:28 PM
Is it Saturday yet?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 13, 2008, 11:17:16 AM
Narch, the rushing comment was a rhetorical joke. But thanks for breaking it down! I do think Ferrum will pass more than normal since I expect them to be playing from behind early on.

CNU is gonna do it to em like we did it to em the last year I played 55-7 ouch.....

Goooo Caps!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 13, 2008, 11:45:06 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 13, 2008, 11:17:16 AM
Narch, the rushing comment was a rhetorical joke[\.
...don't go into comedy professionally :)

do you want the over or under on 382 total rushing yards?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2008, 03:57:47 PM
over
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 13, 2008, 06:03:47 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on November 12, 2008, 10:26:24 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 11, 2008, 10:51:57 PM
Seriously, though I hope Ferrum wins, good luck and health to both teams. The conference's playoff rep(-resentative and -utation) will hing on it!

All this talk of CNU being too one-dimensional to compete in the playoffs and we want to send the most one-dimensional team in the conference to the playoffs?  That would be great representation.  The one time Ferrum has represented the USA South in the playoffs they got handed a 59-14 loss to Wesley.
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I have no intention of trying to be too rah rah about those pitiful Panthers. They really should not be but about 500 seeing as they are so one dimensional. You know if you take out the NCW game from the FC schedule, their cumulative margin of victory against conference teams was only 80 points. That's really not a lot to brag about when you look at how first they are so one dimensional, and they have the number 3 rated rushing offense in the country.

When you think about a CNU, who has the beast of the East in Ogun, who is ranked as the #1 rusher in the country, A team who has been getting votes to be in the top twenty five most of the season, and has finally landed at no. 23, you definitely think of a team who has been the dominate force in the USA South. So if you take the NC Wesleyan game out of their schedule, just to be fair, what would their cumulative margin of victory be against conference opponents?   80 points.

One dimensional or not, Ferrum will be there, ready to play, and yes hopefully ticked off after the NCW debacle. I may leave Pomoco disappointed on Saturday, but there are two things I will be thankful for. One is that I only live 30 mins. from the stadium, as opposed to driving to Ferrum last week, and two, that I am a Panther Fan! And who knows that one dimensional team may just surprise some folks!

Good luck to both!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 13, 2008, 06:18:18 PM
I haven't seen either team in person this season but it seems like both teams are pretty one dimensional.  I would say that FC is more like 1.5 dimensional because it has always run the option so well and it's tough to shut all parts of an option attack down.  This game may actually come down to which team's QB steps up and makes a couple of big throws to win the game.  Either way it should be a good game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 13, 2008, 06:57:52 PM
Allen C, we played one less game than you guys so cumulative doesn't really add up. I will however say that the game we missed out on may have ended badly for us. And what games were you counting? all of them or just conference? If we are talking conference then I get 53 points for Ferrum and 81 for CNU. You can't ignore the butt kicking from NCWC.

Nevertheless, its going to be an exciting game. Here comes that junky twitch again.

OOO! OOO! OOO! CNUUUUU!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 13, 2008, 07:46:45 PM
If you had been there last week, you would understand why I want to ignore it.  :)

I was just talking conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2008, 08:41:28 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 13, 2008, 06:57:52 PM
Allen C, we played one less game than you guys so cumulative doesn't really add up. I will however say that the game we missed out on may have ended badly for us. And what games were you counting? all of them or just conference? If we are talking conference then I get 53 points for Ferrum and 81 for CNU. You can't ignore the butt kicking from NCWC.

Nevertheless, its going to be an exciting game. Here comes that junky twitch again.

OOO! OOO! OOO! CNUUUUU!!!!!!!

He was only talking conference...even said it......whew...you're making it hard to watch your back.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2008, 08:42:12 PM
Allen C....where is 30 minutes from CNU?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 13, 2008, 08:50:03 PM
Williamsburg
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2008, 08:56:26 PM
Is that where your from originally or did you end up there after Ferrum?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 13, 2008, 09:39:42 PM
Originally from Mecklenburg County Va, but finished H.S in Williamsburg (Lafayette 1978) Moved here when I was 15. I have lived in a lot of different places in VA., but am back here now as my Mom needs to have someone a little closer. She is 82.

Did you see the D3.com playoff projections? Looks like Pat has CNU in against Muhlenburg. Win or lose, thats a tall order for CNU or Ferrum.

I really think it will be a good game. Ferrum is not as bad as they looked against NCW.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 14, 2008, 12:20:03 AM
Allen C,

No need to get so defensive.  I never once stated that CNU was gonna walk away with this game and I know how big a game this is because I played in 4 CNU/Ferrum games and all 4 were the biggest of the season.  The simple fact I was making is how everybody on the board has said that CNU can't win in the playoffs because they are too one dimensional.  But Ferrum is more one dimensional than CNU, so I wasn't understanding Tipps' point that it was best for Ferrum to represent our conference.

As for Ferrum being in the top 10 in the nation in rushing, that team that lost in the playoffs also was in the top 10(I believe #3 heading into the playoffs) and they still got spanked.  So my point was that whoever makes it to the playoffs from the USA South needs to have a little passing to keep playoff defenses honest.  Just stating the facts.

 


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2008, 12:53:54 AM
My bad Allen. I didn't even see the line about comparing conference and dropping the NCWC score. And despite CNUalum9 being so dang objective. Im gonna go ahead put on my blue tinted glasses and say we are gonna kick your butts.

Bring on the Panthers! Go CNU!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 14, 2008, 05:10:54 AM
9,

I remember the playoff game well. I drove to Delaware to see it, and as I was not sure exactly where I was going, when I drove past the stadium, They were playing the national anthem. When I found a parking spot, I had to figure out where the ticket booth was. I got to the ticket booth, and as I was getting the ticket Wesley kicked off. By the time I got the ticket and change in my hand, Ferrum had fumbled the kickoff, Wesley recovered and took it to the house for 6. That did not bother me much as I believed that the Panthers would make a game of it. The major highlight that day was that Chris Warren was at the game. (no leather helmet however) Things went from bad to worse that day as you know, and I drove home frustrated. Sad thing is the week before, I drove to Ferrum to see the 9-0 Panthers take on the Captains. I expected the game to be close, and we all know what happened there.
In that case, the only positive I could take was that I was living in Northern VA at the time, and Delaware was a much shorter drive than back to Ferrum. (had they won, they would have hosted)

I admit to being biased, and really have not followed CNU that close. You know that CNU is always ready to play hard, but I do think FC/CNU will match up better this year than in years past, but either team will have their hands full beyond that point!

For me this board is fun, and I am just glad to have something to post about in the last week. Yes it would be better if the passing game was as strong as the running, but the Triple option does not show the pass that often, At least from what I have ever seen. So we will rely on Vann, Patterson, Mayo, and Dobson, and hope to see action in week 12...even if it is against Muhlenburg.

Good luck!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 14, 2008, 05:25:26 AM
Legs 33,

I respect the sentiment about the blue tinted glasses.  I would wear my black tinted ones, but I might miss the game. :)

As for the butt kickin' Maybe so....Maybe no  :)

Good luck!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MomofFC on November 14, 2008, 05:58:50 AM
Junky twitch? More like a brain fart! We will take this on the field.... Allen C. I got your back. GO FERRUM!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 14, 2008, 07:32:01 AM
Ferum/CNU - CNU by 3 Late FG
Maryville/Averett - Maryville by 17 Maryville finishes this game.  No late scores this time
Greensboro/NCWC - NCWC by 24 NCWC builds off their win last week and keeps Greensboro winless in the conference this year.
Methodist/SU - SU by 7 SU grabs this one with a late TD
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2008, 08:54:29 AM
Haha I love it! The suspense is killing me. Allen C, MomofFC best of luck to ya. I know the game is going to be fun. How could any last game of the season/championship game not be? I feel like a kid on christmas eve. Or a junky needing a fix, haha.

Allen C, I feel your pain about the Wesley game. I have travelled thousands of miles following CNU football. Its rare when I miss a game and I have seen every playoff game. That includes 3 losses to W&J, a loss to Bridgewater, a win over Salisbury and Muhlenburg and a trouncing by Widener in CNU 1st ever season. I also flew to Texas to be disappointed by UMHB dismantling my team last year. The point is, heartbreak is part of the game. 200+ teams in D-3 alone will have their season end in frustration. But the game needs fans like you willing to get dressed in your teams colors and drive hours to support their team. Win or lose. Call me crazy but if the championship game was in California and CNU was playing, I would be there.

Go Captains!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 14, 2008, 09:10:50 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2008, 08:54:29 AM
Haha I love it! The suspense is killing me. Allen C, MomofFC best of luck to ya. I know the game is going to be fun. How could any last game of the season/championship game not be? I feel like a kid on christmas eve. Or a junky needing a fix, haha.

Allen C, I feel your pain about the Wesley game. I have travelled thousands of miles following CNU football. Its rare when I miss a game and I have seen every playoff game. That includes 3 losses to W&J, a loss to Bridgewater, a win over Salisbury and Muhlenburg and a trouncing by Widener in CNU 1st ever season. I also flew to Texas to be disappointed by UMHB dismantling my team last year. The point is, heartbreak is part of the game. 200+ teams in D-3 alone will have their season end in frustration. But the game needs fans like you willing to get dressed in your teams colors and drive hours to support their team. Win or lose. Call me crazy but if the championship game was in California and CNU was playing, I would be there.

Go Captains!

   


crazylegs...I don't call you "crazy".....you do!!   :D  After seeing both FC and CNU this year, my head says CNU by 10 but my heart says GO PANTHERS!! Mayo will have to make some plays like he did against Maryville and Ferrum will need to get some breaks.

GO SCOTS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 14, 2008, 09:57:11 AM
Well, I will stir the pot some more.

Predictions for tomorrow:

Methodist  vs.  Shenandoah -    Shenandoah - they are better
                                                       than their record.

Greensboro vs. NCWC         -     NCWC - may be a blow out   

Maryville vs. Averett            -      Averett - Do you think I
                                                        would pick Maryville. Besides
                                                        Averett has been playing good ball
                                                        the past three weeks. Hell, we put
                                                        a scare in CNU for a couple of
                                                        minutes in the 4th.

Ferrum vs. CNU             -            Ferrum Seen both and I truly
                                                       believe this is going to be close. But
                                                       my madness for picking Ferrum is
                                                       "Speed". CNU I think is bigger on
                                                       the line, but I think Ferrum has more
                                                       speed and CNU isn't going to be able
                                                       to stop the option all day and stop
                                                       the passing attack at the same time.
                                                       Averett had Ferrum bottled up in the
                                                       1st half and actually led at halftime
                                                       but couldn't stop Ferrum in 2nd half.
                                                      Some will say the field conditions was
                                                      the cause but Averett was able to stay
                                                      with CNU even thought the running back
                                                      got over 200 yds. Not to mention 80 of
                                                      those came on one play and I think he
                                                      broke another one for 40 or 50.

Anyway, this will cause 85, 33 and 9 to have heartburn but they know they kicked our butts so, they won't dwell on it long.
                                                 
                                                   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2008, 10:04:53 AM
Hey, I didn't make the nickname up.  I think Mario Marin RB #31 was the 1st to call me that back in 2002. I think it was partly due to the fact that I was crazy and partly due to my form when I ran the ball. Who knows. Regardless it seemed to stick and I wanted the old players to know who I was on this board.

Kickerdad, I don't get no stinking hearburn! haha. Don't you know how we spell relief? P-O-M-O-C-O ! I agree the option will be hard to stop. My one question is : what passing attack? I predict a combined total of about 10 passes completed at the days end. Just smash mouth, true grit, hard nosed football. Gotta love it.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 14, 2008, 10:21:57 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2008, 10:04:53 AM

Kickerdad, I don't get no stinking hearburn! haha. Don't you know how we spell relief? P-O-M-O-C-O ! I agree the option will be hard to stop. My one question is : what passing attack? I predict a combined total of about 10 passes completed at the days end. Just smash mouth, true grit, hard nosed football. Gotta love it.



My apologies, I had a brain fart, they just run the option all day. They did intercept us 3 times. Maybe that was why I was thinking they could pass the ball (we would pass and they would catch it and run)  ;D

They also have one hell of a punter. great hang time and lots of distance.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 14, 2008, 10:23:12 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 14, 2008, 10:21:57 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2008, 10:04:53 AM

Kickerdad, I don't get no stinking hearburn! haha. Don't you know how we spell relief? P-O-M-O-C-O ! I agree the option will be hard to stop. My one question is : what passing attack? I predict a combined total of about 10 passes completed at the days end. Just smash mouth, true grit, hard nosed football. Gotta love it.



My apologies, I had a brain fart, they just run the option all day. They did intercept us 3 times. Maybe that was why I was thinking they could pass the ball (we would pass and they would catch it and run)  ;D

They also have one hell of a punter. great hang time and lots of distance.




One of these days I will learn how to use the Quote Box and make it look like I know what I am doing. But what do you expect from a beat up old offensive center.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 14, 2008, 10:23:48 AM
Damn what am I doing wrong.  ??? ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 14, 2008, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 14, 2008, 10:23:48 AM
Damn what am I doing wrong.  ??? ???
You are not going to end of the box, after the last   "  [/  quote]   "   before you begin typing.

The typing is ending up in a previous quote.   ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2008, 01:05:56 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 14, 2008, 10:23:48 AM
Damn what am I doing wrong.  ??? ???
Don't ask us...that's what wives are for!!  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2008, 01:07:02 PM
Crazylegs,

Are you the one who had a family member always yelling from the stands, "PUT IN NUMBER 33"?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2008, 01:08:19 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 13, 2008, 09:39:42 PM
Originally from Mecklenburg County Va, but finished H.S in Williamsburg (Lafayette 1978) Moved here when I was 15. I have lived in a lot of different places in VA., but am back here now as my Mom needs to have someone a little closer. She is 82.

Did you see the D3.com playoff projections? Looks like Pat has CNU in against Muhlenburg. Win or lose, thats a tall order for CNU or Ferrum.

I really think it will be a good game. Ferrum is not as bad as they looked against NCW.

AHA...LHS...the home of Lawrence Taylor, Ron Springs, and I think one other NFL guy - kick returner... forgot his name.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 14, 2008, 02:36:56 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 14, 2008, 01:08:19 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 13, 2008, 09:39:42 PM
Originally from Mecklenburg County Va, but finished H.S in Williamsburg (Lafayette 1978) Moved here when I was 15. I have lived in a lot of different places in VA., but am back here now as my Mom needs to have someone a little closer. She is 82.

Did you see the D3.com playoff projections? Looks like Pat has CNU in against Muhlenburg. Win or lose, thats a tall order for CNU or Ferrum.

I really think it will be a good game. Ferrum is not as bad as they looked against NCW.

AHA...LHS...the home of Lawrence Taylor, Ron Springs, and I think one other NFL guy - kick returner... forgot his name.

     I believe you are referring to Mel Gray.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2008, 02:58:58 PM
How you know that 85?  ;D That used to drive me nuts. But when the whole section started chiming in it was really funny.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 14, 2008, 03:18:37 PM
LT was a year ahead of me, and Ron Springs was several ahead of me. He was on the team the first year LHS opened (73?). That year, they went to the State Championship, and played at William and Mary.....and lost.

Did not really know LT,  Just when I saw him. Poor Ron Springs, the last I heard he was in a coma...Dont know if he is still living or not, but I think I would have heard if he died.

Well I am home from work, and it's time to start getting ready for tomorrow.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 14, 2008, 03:50:38 PM
Almost forgot my picks-

MC @ SU    SU by 14  28-14

GC @ NCWC   Bishops Roll 48-7

Maryville @ Averett     Home field gives it to the Cougars 16-13

Ferrum @ CNU          A game that can go either way...FC too much for the Captains in the second half.   FC 28  CNU 24   Did you think I would not pick the Panthers?




How do we stand for the picks so far?


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 14, 2008, 03:53:35 PM
Mine are already out there from earlier.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2008, 06:20:32 PM
I'll try to find time to add all the pick ems up. Ive been slacking on that. Look for it sunday maybe saturday afternoon. Unless I'm sulking after the game.

My picks:

MC v. SU                     SU wins 24-16
GC v. NCWC                NCWC wins  topping 50, GC might get 10
M'ville v. AU                Maryville wins 30 - 14
Ferrum v. CNU            CNU wins its 1st outright championship 35 to 7.


Even though we already already own at least a share of the title, if you don't get to move on to the playoffs it ain't worth jack in my opinion. Lets go CNU!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2008, 08:32:05 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2008, 02:58:58 PM
How you know that 85?  ;D That used to drive me nuts. But when the whole section started chiming in it was really funny.

1. I was there
2. He was loud

:D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 14, 2008, 09:04:53 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 14, 2008, 09:57:11 AM

Ferrum vs. CNU             -            Ferrum Seen both and I truly
                                                       believe this is going to be close. But
                                                       my madness for picking Ferrum is
                                                       "Speed".                                                                                     

That speed won't mean much on a wet field.   

Just finished painting the sails on my Cornhole boards, hopefully it wont rain so I can break them out tailgaiting in the morning.  The 2 coolers and 2 grills are packed and ready for some tailgating in the morning and a big win by CNU in the afternoon.

My picks - All the home teams. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on November 14, 2008, 11:19:29 PM
PUT IN 33!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on November 14, 2008, 11:21:06 PM
Ah, good times...good times. :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNULifer on November 14, 2008, 11:37:34 PM
Man I haven't said a word all year.  My little bro is trying to break my bad Karma record I think.  Too bad there is only a little football left this year.

Oh yeah.  Go CNU.

I don't remember who keeps whinning about ferrum not getting D3 top 25 votes.  Schedule somebody for crying out loud.  NCWC was the best team you played year to date.  Yes CNU lost to #16 and no I don't think that makes us any better than Ferrum but it shows that we have a set.  And for better or worse that obviously carries weight with the powers that be.  So stop whinning, take a hint and grow a set. 

Narch, oh man.  I geuss you would not cling to whooping up on some one, on a message board, about garbage, if your team was worth talking about.  So cling to what ever shred of dignity that you can muster.  Can't play ball but man Methodist must have the best english majors in the conference.

Well I'm done for the year.

Goooo  CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 15, 2008, 12:36:02 AM
Quote from: CNULifer on November 14, 2008, 11:37:34 PM
Man I haven't said a word all year.  My little bro is trying to break my bad Karma record I think.  Too bad there is only a little football left this year.

Oh yeah.  Go CNU.

I don't remember who keeps whinning about ferrum not getting D3 top 25 votes.  Schedule somebody for crying out loud.  NCWC was the best team you played year to date.  Yes CNU lost to #16 and no I don't think that makes us any better than Ferrum but it shows that we have a set.  And for better or worse that obviously carries weight with the powers that be.  So stop whinning, take a hint and grow a set. 

Narch, oh man.  I geuss you would not cling to whooping up on some one, on a message board, about garbage, if your team was worth talking about.  So cling to what ever shred of dignity that you can muster.  Can't play ball but man Methodist must have the best english majors in the conference.

Well I'm done for the year.

Goooo  CNU.

I hope adult beverages were involved in that post because I'm still trying to figure exactly what you were saying but I swear you and le\gs have a bro-mance for narch....he's a good looking fella but he ain't that good looking! ;D  ;) ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 15, 2008, 05:56:09 AM
I don't remember who keeps whinning about ferrum not getting D3 top 25 votes.  Schedule somebody for crying out loud.  NCWC was the best team you played year to date.  Yes CNU lost to #16 and no I don't think that makes us any better than Ferrum but it shows that we have a set.  And for better or worse that obviously carries weight with the powers that be.  So stop whinning, take a hint and grow a set.

Well that had to be me doing the "whining". As for the lack of difficulty in scheduling, I agree the FC needs to pick up someone that will challenge them. Someone with credibility, and someone that if they get beat, they will actually grow from the experience. I agree, and have said so on the board. As for growing a set, well, I will let that very tactful comment go, but the point you make is sound. Ferrum does need to pick up a HSC, or Wesley, or someone of a higher caliber and let So. VA University go .

Its really hard to focus on the future today. I am dialed into today, and the moment. Knowing that at about 3:45, I will not be able to talk, and I will be leaving Pomoco, either with a smile, and doing alot of highfiving with fellow Ferrum fans, or dissapointed, lamenting maybe next year. Either way,  I can guarantee you that Ferrum will bring a set...and win or lose, CNU will know they have been in a game. 
Yeah, I think adult beverages may have been involved.....Hope your head feels better.

Go Panthers!!!!!!!!!!

Now you know that was worth some Karma!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 15, 2008, 06:20:46 AM
This will probably be the final post before the game, so I want to say good luck to all those devoted CNU posters. I realize that FC is not the favorite today, but it's that fan spirit that makes this board fun..., and the hope that one's team get to advance. I really believe that Ferrum has a team that could win today, but I am sure most people think otherwise. I just hope that the game is not decided on a bad call by a ref. (Of course only one side of the stadium will think its a bad call)

My car is packed, and I am ready to go...Its 6:15 a.m., so I wont leave just yet, but it won't be too long! I will be there in my Ferrum College shirt, a loud and proud Ferrum fan that has hope that when its over, I will start planning a trip to a playoff game.

Good Luck Today!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: georgiahokie on November 15, 2008, 08:35:04 AM
This is my first post on this forum.  I'm a former Panther from the old JUCO days and would just love to see a big win today.  Good luck Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2008, 08:59:35 AM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on November 14, 2008, 09:04:53 PMThat speed won't mean much on a wet field.
you know, this is one of those football truisms that i've always wondered about...since speed is relative and both teams play on the same field, wouldn't faster players still be faster, even on a wet field?  or is the "wet field" affect exponential, affecting faster players more than slower players? 

i was never fast enough to notice the difference, but i sure did like playing on a wet field more...maybe it's because the wet field made me (relatively) faster - i just thought it was because i liked wearing a dirty uniform :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2008, 09:04:58 AM
Quote from: CNULifer on November 14, 2008, 11:37:34 PMNarch, oh man.  I geuss you would not cling to whooping up on some one, on a message board, about garbage, if your team was worth talking about.  So cling to what ever shred of dignity that you can muster.  Can't play ball but man Methodist must have the best english majors in the conference.
i love you too ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 09:46:21 AM
Quote from: georgiahokie on November 15, 2008, 08:35:04 AM
This is my first post on this forum.  I'm a former Panther from the old JUCO days and would just love to see a big win today.  Good luck Panthers!

how long ago?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 09:50:54 AM
the sun is trying to come out. I guess I should close up my laptop and get out of bed!!! ;D ;D

My one wish for this week.....to watch CNU Hoops game on Friday and a CNU football game the next afternoon.

Time to make that 2.5 mile hike to POMOCO.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 15, 2008, 10:08:17 AM
One thing I know is that when I signed up to come to CNU coach K promised me only a couple of things. "If you come to CNU, I can promise you that you will play in big games, conference championship games, and playoff games". To this years Captains coach K has kept his promise so now its time for you all to keep your end of the deal. Good luck and remember that there is no more important game than the one you are about to play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 15, 2008, 10:53:07 AM
2 hours 8 minutes!!!!!  Lets go CNU!!!!!!

whatever happened to that guy mosher?
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 03, 2008, 01:23:32 PM
crazylegs,

you make me want to puke!

Really..I want to throw up..

really i hope you guys lose at least 3 more this year.

Sorry we let you down bud. GO CNU!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: georgiahokie on November 15, 2008, 12:35:57 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 09:46:21 AM
Quote from: georgiahokie on November 15, 2008, 08:35:04 AM
This is my first post on this forum.  I'm a former Panther from the old JUCO days and would just love to see a big win today.  Good luck Panthers!

how long ago?
I played tennis for Coach Skeens from 80-81 and raised some H3LL at everything else :-)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 15, 2008, 01:13:37 PM
NCWC-7, GC-0 On opening drive.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 15, 2008, 02:21:23 PM
At the Half  NCWC 14, GC 3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 15, 2008, 02:34:09 PM
Hey,
A win still possible. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 15, 2008, 03:19:19 PM
Fourth Qtr. start    NCWC 35,   GC 3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 15, 2008, 03:50:01 PM
Captains win 13-10. Great game, lost of running, Tunde had 181.

Ironically enough, RMC is leading HSC late in the fourth and Catholic is losing/lost to Bridgewater. RMC could end up being the AQ out of the ODAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 15, 2008, 03:52:07 PM
Final NCWC-35, GC-9

Good season for Bishops, could have been better, but still a good season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on November 15, 2008, 03:54:16 PM
Averett beat Maryville 20-17.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 15, 2008, 04:30:39 PM
Wow, great game. Hats off to Ferrum they played tough all game. Big congrats to CNU! CNU wins with a field goal that in normal conditions would have been good from 40 yards. The wind was blowing so hard that the ball stopped dead at its peak and inched over and appeared to hit the cross bar.

Looking ahead to the playoffs now. Losses to some top teams in region make CNU's bid for a home game more probable. #2 in region Muhlenburg lost,#5 Catholic loses and is out of the playoff picture #9 Huntingdon loses and sends UNRANKED LaGrange to the playoffs. Finally, #6 Hampden-Sydney lost and is also on the outside looking in causing UNRANKED Randolph Macon get is the automatic bid in a 4 way tie by virtue of head to head tie breaker!

Wow. I smell a CNU home game cooking.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 15, 2008, 04:39:01 PM
Heres the regional rankings before today.
South Region
1.   Millsaps 8-0   9-0
2.   Muhlenberg   9-0   9-0         
3.   Mary Hardin-Baylor   7-0   8-1
4.   Hardin-Simmons   9-1   9-1
5.   Catholic   7-1   8-1                       
6.   Hampden-Sydney   7-1   8-1                 
7.   Washington and Jefferson   7-1   8-1
8.   Wesley   3-1   7-1
9.   Huntingdon   7-1   8-1
10.   Christopher Newport   6-1   7-1


The teams in red lost and the teams with lines through them probably are done for the year with 2 in region losses. This puts CNU ranked #6 or #7 and with the Texas sub-bracket we have a good shot of playing at home.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 15, 2008, 05:10:02 PM
After taking a good look at the playoff picture I think CNU's home game all hinges on how far the NCAA drops Muhlenberg. I tried a bunch of different ideas but after 30 minutes I have now gone cross-eyed. I'm just gonna have to wait this one out. The Pool C and B picture is really different from what it looked like yesterday. W&J might just get back in it. Huntingdon is done. Hampden Sydney and Catholic are done. What a crazy weekend.

My gut tells me a rematch. Well not rematch but I see CNU and Wesley in a "rescheduling" of the 1st game of the season. Sadly I see it being at Wesley.

Anyone else have a better perspective on this?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 15, 2008, 05:12:40 PM
Well, I have to say hats off to CNU, but Ferrum should hold their heads high.  I tell you the term " a game of inches" took on a very real meaning....  Great Game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 05:23:06 PM
What a fantastic game. Ferrum can play....and they can hit. There are a few kids on both sides tha have bad headaches right now! Too bad Ferrum can't go to the playoffs. Congrats to them on a good season. I noticed Kelchner immediately after the game congratulating as many Panthers as he could. He even went to one kid who had given his all and was face down on the turf. Coach helped him up and shook his hand. Class act!!

Gotta go look at the stats. I think Ogun missed being d3 rushing champ by 1 yard (.10 for the season - something like that).

Hmmm.....home game next week?? I dunno. But if so, I need ideas to help me convince my wife that I should go to the game the day before our 23rd anniversary.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 15, 2008, 05:10:02 PM


My gut tells me a rematch. Well not rematch but I see CNU and Wesley in a "rescheduling" of the 1st game of the season. Sadly I see it being at Wesley.



Remember the last time CNU had a cancelled game that wound up in a playoff "rematch"?
A good omen?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 15, 2008, 05:33:41 PM
85, we played that one at home though.

I'm hoping for proximity to land us Randolph-Macon at home.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2008, 07:21:53 PM
congrats to the captains...they have clearly been the best team in the conference all season...they have some weaknesses and they're a little one-dimensional, but that doesn't mean they can't make some noise in the ncaa's - ogun is an all-american, in my mind, and he can carry them a long way

i was a little surprised by the results today...i listened to the game until just before hoops tip-off and the monarchs were dominating the hornets on the ground...at the game i heard an update that su had gone up 24-7, and i was shocked

this was a long, tough season for the monarchs, but there were some bright spots...peoples really emerged as a top-flight wr...he should be an all-conference selection...and teague had a solid first season as a starter, despite some ups and downs - scales and mcguire are a nice backfield combo and lots of young guys got quality playing time on the o-line and everywhere on the defense...i hope they realize that 2-8 is not monarch football and dedicate themselves in the off season

again, good luck to the captains in the playoffs...rep the conference well
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 15, 2008, 07:26:53 PM
CNU85-
    If im not mistaken, NCAA games count in the stats for the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 07:45:52 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 15, 2008, 07:26:53 PM
CNU85-
    If im not mistaken, NCAA games count in the stats for the year.

Yikes. That could make it harder on a yds per game basis. The leader is DeRon Brown from MIT and since they are not in the playoffs, Tunde will need to keep rushing for over 182 per game to make it up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 15, 2008, 09:08:13 PM
Well I am back home now, and have a chance to really post some thoughts.

1st Ogun is the real deal. I was proud of the way Ferrum handled him. He is tough however. Did he really have 181 yards...It did not seem like that much to me, but they add up fast.

2nd. A lot of credit to the CNU D Line especially in the last 1 1/2 qtrs. They really wore down Ferrum.

3rd What a nice crowd on both sides...I expected it from CNU, but Ferrum brought a good amount also.

4. CNU was the better team today, but I really did believe that even on the last play a hail mary was possible for the Panther win. Just was not to be.

5. Ferrum's Defense was GREAT today. Tough.

6 Good Luck CNU next week. I will be pulling for you.....take it to ahhh whoever.

7. CAint wait till next year...we only lose 3 starters!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 09:08:52 PM
great stories and pics here  http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-gametracker.1115,0,3629738.htmlstory (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-now-gametracker.1115,0,3629738.htmlstory)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 09:15:31 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 15, 2008, 09:08:13 PM
Well I am back home now, and have a chance to really post some thoughts.

1st Ogun is the real deal. I was proud of the way Ferrum handled him. He is tough however. Did he really have 181 yards...It did not seem like that much to me, but they add up fast.

2nd. A lot of credit to the CNU D Line especially in the last 1 1/2 qtrs. They really wore down Ferrum.

3rd What a nice crowd on both sides...I expected it from CNU, but Ferrum brought a good amount also.

4. CNU was the better team today, but I really did believe that even on the last play a hail mary was possible for the Panther win. Just was not to be.

5. Ferrum's Defense was GREAT today. Tough.

6 Good Luck CNU next week. I will be pulling for you.....take it to ahhh whoever.

7. CAint wait till next year...we only lose 3 starters!

Agreed on all points. Some people were commenting from our side of the field that Ferrum fans needed more seating on the visitors side.

What a fantastic game to watch. I didn't realize Ogun had 181 either....he just plugs away. CNU has a few backups that I didn't see play. Legister was one of them. He's a Fr and is bigger than Ogun and seems to have the same running style. He usually mops up in the 4th qt with 10 carries for 60 yds. The D is usually wiped out from chasing Ogun all day and then Legister demoralizes them.

A game like today is what championship football is all about. EVERYONE played their hearts out. Hitting like I haven't seen in awhile was happening on every play. Very few penalties.

If Ferrum is only losing 3 starters....rut-row. Look out. I have to check to see how many CNU is losing. Not many and in most cases CNU substitutes freely everywhere except maybe the O-line. Key loss will be the kicker, Jay Graham.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 09:18:14 PM
Box score says attendance was 3525. It looked like a lot more than that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2008, 09:21:20 PM
great pictures, but boy are those ferrum uniforms hideous...i can live with the gold shirt, but monochrome gold just doesn't do it...that uni is screaming for some black pants...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 09:23:30 PM
Narch,

I thought the same thing when I saw them. Cat %$^^ yellow. Black pants would make that uniform look scary.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 09:25:24 PM
Anyone know when Pat and gang have their final projections posted? Of course this year it may take them all night.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 15, 2008, 09:30:14 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 07:45:52 PM
Quote from: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 15, 2008, 07:26:53 PM
CNU85-
    If im not mistaken, NCAA games count in the stats for the year.

Yikes. That could make it harder on a yds per game basis. The leader is DeRon Brown from MIT and since they are not in the playoffs, Tunde will need to keep rushing for over 182 per game to make it up.

Considering I did the math and he trails the kid from MIT by 0.05 yards!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 15, 2008, 09:49:27 PM
The most exciting part of my 4 years with CNU was the day of the playoff selections. I can't say I feel any different right now. The anticipation is killing me!

As far as Tunde and the rushing yards per game. Cool, but I don't care if he doesn't get it.
JUST WIN BABY!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 15, 2008, 10:04:04 PM
After today, It won't bother me at all to see the CNU kicker graduate.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 10:09:15 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 15, 2008, 09:49:27 PM
The most exciting part of my 4 years with CNU was the day of the playoff selections. I can't say I feel any different right now. The anticipation is killing me!

As far as Tunde and the rushing yards per game. Cool, but I don't care if he doesn't get it.
JUST WIN BABY!!!

What years did you play? I'm only vague about it....2002-2005? I do remember one TD run. I think it was your first. If I remember right..it was at POMOCO, south end of field where the band is now.....I think it was a one or two yard off right plunge....Chowan???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 15, 2008, 10:38:57 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 15, 2008, 09:23:30 PM
Narch,

I thought the same thing when I saw them. Cat %$^^ yellow. Black pants would make that uniform look scary.

On this I have to agree. When I was at Dear ol' FC It was more of a black and yellow, but the jersies were either black or white with yellow trim. I hate the ugly gold.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 16, 2008, 09:55:02 AM
What a great season in the USA South. For the first time since I have been following the league, it seemed as is there was more parity than ever before. Congrats to CNU for winning the conference, and good luck in the playoffs. It seems that there will be several teams that have the chance to really be scary good next season if the have great off- seasons and can fill holes by recruiting. I have said it before and will say it again, I really believe that CNU has raised the bar for everyone else, and that the road to being the conference champ runs through CNU. With that being said, I think that there are about three or four different teams that could finish atop the conference next season. Lets all rally behind CNU during the playoffs, if they have a strong showing it justs gives the whole conference more national credibility.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 16, 2008, 11:15:49 AM
Thanks Highlander!! It really has been a fun year! And the conference is getting better as a whole. Look at some of the CNU wins....not by much.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 16, 2008, 11:24:25 AM
cnu85, i hope the d3 guys are wrong and we get to finally play the first week game.  i think that wesley will stay in the south and get cnu in dover.  read your dilemma with the anniversary weekend, hope you can make it to dover if it works out that way.  good luck in the playoffs, unless it is against wesley. :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 16, 2008, 12:22:52 PM
85,  You were really close with your guess. The years I played are listed on my signature at the bottom of every one of my posts. 02,03,04 and 06. And yeah my TD was against Chowan but it was in NC at Chowan. I travelled because of my involvement with special teams.

Here is a nice trivia nugget for you. There were 14 guys who started the CNU program and stayed for the entire 4 years, winning 4 championships. We affectionately refer to them as the 14. Only one other player in CNU history has won 4 championships in 4 years of play. Thats me. Kinda neat.

3 hours 'til we find out out destiny!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 16, 2008, 03:37:03 PM
Looks like we're going to W&J. Can we pick up where the last game left off....with momentum on the Captains side....only have 60 minutes on the clock?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 16, 2008, 03:42:28 PM
Our secondary will need to have their best game of the season....let's see if CNU can get that W&J monkey off their back!

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 16, 2008, 03:57:19 PM
Fourth time in seven years CNU and W&J have met in the playoffs, third time they have met in the first round and of course the third time W&J has hosted. 85 just come the basketball game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bureau chief on November 17, 2008, 11:20:03 AM
I think if W&J is able to hold Tunde Ogun to under 300 yards, the Presidents may have a chance
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 17, 2008, 05:21:34 PM
First thing I want to say is congratulations to all the seniors at Averett University for all you have done the past 4 years. You started out with a winning season as freshman, the 2nd year you helped bring the first conference championship to the school (regardless of the fact that you shared that crown with CNU), last year you went winless but you hung in there and you gave the guys returning next year something to build on by going 5 and 5 this year. If my memory is correct you were only picked to win at least 2 games this year if that many but you came together and put on a great show the second half of the season. Hell you gave CNU a scare for a few minutes and kept the score very low and close. Great job guys, now lets get those diplomas and leave in May with the diploma in one hand and the championship ring on the other.

Kicker13, not sure if you read this but you know I love you and I am very proud of you for all you accomplished the past four years. Now graduate and get a job because the bank has run dry!!! ;)

Congratulations to all seniors at all the schools for giving us old farts something to talk about during the week and making us think we were still young and able to play.

I want to wish CNU all the best beginning with this weekend against W&J. You have been there before and you know what to expect. Now go out and do it and make everyone proud of the USA-South.

Finally, to everyone I have had the pleasure and honor of chatting with and meeting over the past 4 years on this board and others, as well as in person as we have traveled to some great places, "Thanks For The Memories" Some of you assured me when I first got on here 4 years ago that this was going to be a life time experience and you were right. I wish all of you well in the future. I will continue to read and follow and if the notion stricks me, I may jump in and give you an old guys opinion. God Bless all of you and THANKS.

That includes Pat and Keith.

Kickerdad
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2008, 05:35:30 PM
Thanks -- glad you have enjoyed the past four years. Definitely do not be a stranger -- there are plenty of posters here who are now parents of former players, and they still have good things to contribute.

Come to the Stagg Bowl, too, if you don't already plan to.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2008, 09:05:11 PM
Kickerdad,

I've enjoyed your posts over the years. I also enjoyed our brief meeting in the rain before the game. Thanks for your kind words about my son. Good luck to your son as he enjoys his last few months of college age fun and soon enters AdultLand and all the associated stress.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 17, 2008, 11:02:17 PM
Congrats Kickerdad to you and your son.  Averett played well against my Fighting Scots on Saturday and made the plays in the second half to win the game....  Averett was not expected to do much this season and did a great job in the second half of the season to end up 5-5.

I know Maryville is disappointed and had high expectations for this season.  However, this team and this group of seniors played hard throughout the year and made all Fighting Scots fans proud of these young men.

This has become a very balanced league right now with not much separation between the higher and lower teams in the conference. 

Congratulations to CNU and hope they have a great run in the playoffs starting with a big win against W&J on Saturday.....

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 17, 2008, 11:35:37 PM
Pat's comment about the Stagg bowl got me thinking...who would be in for a USA South tailgate party at the Stagg.  Most of us have never met but have known each other for years through post patterns...would it be possible for some of us to get together and tailgate before the Stagg Bowl?

Kicker13...I'm sure you know it already but you are lucky to have a dad who is as involved with your football career as your dad is!


Kickerdad...please don't be a stranger!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Llamaguy on November 18, 2008, 02:05:40 AM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on November 17, 2008, 11:35:37 PM
Pat's comment about the Stagg bowl got me thinking...who would be in for a USA South tailgate party at the Stagg.  Most of us have never met but have known each other for years through post patterns...would it be possible for some of us to get together and tailgate before the Stagg Bowl?
Kicker13...I'm sure you know it already but you are lucky to have a dad who is as involved with your football career as your dad is!


Kickerdad...please don't be a stranger!!!

Come on down! We have been doing this for the past 4 years. They usually take a group shot of the different "post pattern" personalities at Stone Station at the Stagg each year. Last year I believe we had about 15 schools represented. This BC alum even wore a CNU skully supplied by CNU85 last year. Yikes, that would have never happened in 2002-2004.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2008, 10:40:01 AM
CNUALUM9 - You looked pretty hung over Sunday morning when I passed you on the interstate. Did a little celebrating Saturday night?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 18, 2008, 11:26:40 AM
I've been saying all year that our weakness in our secondary could be an issue against a team like W&J who throws a lot. And who do we draw 1st round? you betcha.

Now I've been watching CNU every game this year and thinking that we didn't look as good as we have in the past. But somehow we just kept winning. Hell, we won the conference outright for the 1st time. But it wasn't that we were not as good as years past, it was that we were winning a different way. Ball control. We just ground down teams and held onto the ball all game. CNU ranks 6th nationally in time of possession. They kinda make me think of the Tennessee Titans. We didn't blow everyone out, but we kept winning. If we can be successful playing "our brand" of football, we will continue to roll.

Hold on to the ball, control the game, force a turnover or two on defense. The team that wins the turnover battle will win this game. As long as we have the ball they can't score.

Google says 6 hours 49 minutes to W&J. I'll be there. Rain, sleet or snow. Screaming my heart out. LET'S GO CNU!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 18, 2008, 07:59:39 PM
Yeah I had a few celebratory drinks after the game.
Title: HC Mitchell released at Greensboro
Post by: hasanova on November 19, 2008, 10:11:43 AM
According to today's Greensboro News & Record, Greensboro College has released HC Neal Mitchell after seven seasons.  No indication about a replacement, so I assume GC will conduct a national search.  In the article, the underlying message by AD Kim Strable was that the team was 18-52 in the last seven years and never seriously competed for the USAS title.  I'm sure it also didn't help that the Pride's lost four straight Soup Bowls to Guilford.  It's a tough situation and I sincerely wish Neal Mitchell the best.
Title: Re: HC Mitchell released at Greensboro
Post by: allsky7 on November 19, 2008, 11:30:53 AM
Quote from: hasanova on November 19, 2008, 10:11:43 AM
According to today's Greensboro News & Record, Greensboro College has released HC Neal Mitchell after seven seasons.  No indication about a replacement, so I assume GC will conduct a national search.  In the article, the underlying message by AD Kim Strable was that the team was 18-52 in the last seven years and never seriously competed for the USAS title.  I'm sure it also didn't help that the Pride's lost four straight Soup Bowls to Guilford.  It's a tough situation and I sincerely wish Neal Mitchell the best.

     Sometimes, a situation like this has as much to do with the schools commitment to the program as it does with a coaches ability to lead and coach. There are certainly other variables that factor in. I am not saying that is what happened here because I know little about GC. I will say that in order to be successful, it must be a two way street. I can speak from personal experience that isn't always the case.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 19, 2008, 11:44:27 AM
Allsky,

  Hit the nail on the head.  Kirby left because the newness factor of the program was fading and the reality was that GC doesn't have its own facilities.  Until GC makes a commitment to excellence in facilities it will matter little what caliber coach we have.  So you can bring in whoever you want but you will just end up firing that person when it is apparent you win by recruiting and you cant recruit without facilities. 
Title: Re: HC Mitchell released at Greensboro
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 19, 2008, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on November 19, 2008, 11:30:53 AM
     Sometimes, a situation like this has as much to do with the schools commitment to the program as it does with a coaches ability to lead and coach. There are certainly other variables that factor in. I am not saying that is what happened here because I know little about GC. I will say that in order to be successful, it must be a two way street. I can speak from personal experience that isn't always the case.  8)

+1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hayden Fox on November 19, 2008, 12:41:51 PM
Apparently this has been in the works for some time and they will be hiring internally. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballsouthernstyle 1 on November 19, 2008, 01:25:52 PM
Coach Mitch was a good man who had very little support at greensboro. When the school makes a commitment to football the program will be successful. On campus field would help. internal hiring i dont think will happen. Coach Young dc should get the job but i dont think it will be offered.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 19, 2008, 05:57:52 PM
They wont get much better than mitchell or young.

Change for change sake is what happens in fb but its tough when the people that ran the show where pretty good.

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: georgiahokie on November 19, 2008, 09:24:25 PM
Got a question for current and former D3 players or parents of players.  My son left a 1-AA team this year because of the time requirements.  His day began with a 7:00 AM workout and generally didn't end until after study hall at 9:30PM.  Throw in games on Saturdays plus Sunday evening workouts and there was no time for anything but school and football.  What's a typical D3 player's day like?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 19, 2008, 09:43:00 PM
Tell your son to go play intramural football if he doesn't like the time commitment. 

NCAA rules allow no more than 20 hrs committed to football practice and meetings at all levels of college football.  I imagine most schools (even D-III) range from 18-20 hours per week. 

I'm sorry he had to go to study hall, but that usually is a good thing. 

When I played we had daily meetings, practice and lifting 2-3 times per week. 

Players are required to have 1 day off from any practices or meetings.  That's usually on Sunday or Monday depending on the football program.

Meetings, lifting and practice are usually not required when playing flag football.  Hope that answers your question...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 19, 2008, 09:49:13 PM
Playing college athletics (at any level) is a full time job!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 19, 2008, 09:52:21 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 19, 2008, 05:57:52 PM
They wont get much better than mitchell or young.

Change for change sake is what happens in fb but its tough when the people that ran the show where pretty good.


I'm sorry about Coach Mitchell.   Seemed like a good guy and looked like he could really recruit.  I was always scared when we played Greensboro because of the amount of athletes they had compared to our players. 

It seemed like they should have gotten better results with those players and would have had a good '08 season after winning 2 early games in the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 19, 2008, 09:59:51 PM
Just to remind everyone that 1 year ago, Coach Cody Bowers died in a car accident and has been missed by the entire Maryville community.  Cody played and graduated from MC in 2004.  He joined Coach I's staff in 2005 and was named as a full-time secondary coach in 2007.

MC's secondary posted 19 Int's in his only season as secondary coach.

Great guy, good friend and loved by many.....

Please pray for his parents and family to help them get through these next several days....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 19, 2008, 10:17:56 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 19, 2008, 11:44:27 AM
Allsky,

  Hit the nail on the head.  Kirby left because the newness factor of the program was fading and the reality was that GC doesn't have its own facilities.  Until GC makes a commitment to excellence in facilities it will matter little what caliber coach we have.  So you can bring in whoever you want but you will just end up firing that person when it is apparent you win by recruiting and you cant recruit without facilities. 
I agree with both of you.  In my opinion, Greensboro does not have good facilities for college athletics.  Football is played at Grimsley HS, baseball is played at an antiquated municipal stadium and basketball/volleyball are played in one of the smaller gyms around.  The administration at Greensboro says they're going to redo the property they bought a mile or so away, but that make take a few more years.  "They" say "the new coach always gets what the old coach needed."  You're right, the newness factor is gone .... Greensboro's had a football program for 12 years now.  I think the lack of dedicated facilities are now what's causing recruiting and win/loss improvement to stall.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 19, 2008, 10:33:40 PM
Quote from: georgiahokie on November 19, 2008, 09:24:25 PM
Got a question for current and former D3 players or parents of players.  My son left a 1-AA team this year because of the time requirements.  His day began with a 7:00 AM workout and generally didn't end until after study hall at 9:30PM.  Throw in games on Saturdays plus Sunday evening workouts and there was no time for anything but school and football.  What's a typical D3 player's day like?
I didn't play college football, but I played college soccer.  It's a commitment regardless of the sport ... and regardless of the NCAA classification. 

We typically practiced about 2 1/2 hours on days we didn't have a game and were expected to do a lot of running and conditioning on our own or with teammates all year round.  Most college soccer programs play 18-25 games or so, depending on playoffs.  Often, a little over half of those are typically road games ... and, unlike football, many are mid-week.  You just have to learn to manage your time and prioritize:  read on the bus while you travel, schedule time in the library away from all the noise in the dorms, etc.  I always remember something Coach Lou Holtz said about his priority order for a college athlete:

God, family, studies, football and social life.

Now, it's up to every person to make their own choices and I'm not sure a DI football HC always truly believes football is 4th, but I guess it sounds good to a recruit's family.  lol 

It's four years - if you want it, you just have to learn to adapt ... and that's as true in DIII as it is in DI.  Good luck to your son.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: georgiahokie on November 19, 2008, 10:53:25 PM
Thanks for the great responses.  I assumed it was similar but have seen articles about people leaving D1 to play D3 due to the time committment and was curious about the reality.  You gotta love the game to play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 20, 2008, 04:25:32 AM
Quote from: georgiahokie on November 19, 2008, 10:53:25 PM
Thanks for the great responses.  I assumed it was similar but have seen articles about people leaving D1 to play D3 due to the time committment and was curious about the reality.  You gotta love the game to play.

   
     When there is an athletic scholarship involved, in effect, you are being paid to play a sport. When someone is paying you to do anything, dynamics and expectations are a bit different. That doesn't mean that the commitment is any less but perhaps a little different. On one level, if you are being paid to play, there might be a sense of obligation to be committed. However, I also think you could make a sound argument that playing on the D3 level takes even more of a commitment. There are fewer resources and systems in place at the D3 level so you must be more adept at time management, discipline, etc. It is cliche, but you really do play for the love of the game. IMO, either way, your heart better be in it or it probably won't work.  8)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 20, 2008, 09:17:44 AM
Last time CNU met W&J:

"Washington & Jefferson earned the victory despite being outgained by a 454-181 margin"

Turnovers kill. That game made me sick.

If any current CNU players are reading this, think about the way you felt after that game. Let it sink in. Let it linger inside and piss you off. Let it build up so much rage that when you step on the field saturday, W&J will begging for the game to be over. Hit em in the mouth. Knock em down. Put the QB in the dirt every play. Hit anyone that even thinks about catching the ball. Im talking big, nasty, bone shattering hits that will make them think twice about catching a pass ten years from now. I want our fullbacks being the meanest SOBs those linebackers have ever seen. Im not talking about just giving them a head ache. I want em hurting so bad they can barely walk the next day. I'm talking about mean and nasty, smash mouth football. Everybody. Every Play. 60 minutes.

Saturday we get our REVENGE.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 20, 2008, 01:34:22 PM
georgiahokie - it seems like a few have decided to rip your son a bit, but there is NO QUESTION that the off-season and even in-season TIME commitment for a d3 student-athlete typically isn't what it is for a d1 athlete - that's part of the reason that d3 exists....to give student-athletes who want a more balanced experience that opportunity - it's not fair for anyone to rip him and suggest that he play intramural flag football because he wants to have a life outside of football and have time to enjoy the college experience off the field

i agree with allsky's assesment of personal commitment, however...if your son isn't sure that he's "all-in" for playing college football, then he shouldn't play college football

it's important that he really explore why he stopped playing...is it because he lost the passion for football or did he truly feel like football was interfering with the other reasons he was in college (ie: academics, etc.) - if his answer is the latter, a d3 school might be a good fit...if it's the former, then intramural flag-football might be just what the dr. ordered :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 20, 2008, 02:12:13 PM
time for my annual evaluation of the all-conference selections:

starting with qb (this might really get the crazyone riled up...i'm using STATS [conference only] to compare players...imagine using individual statistics to compare individual performance :)):
jordan is a clear-cut first teamer...he had a fantastic year and probably would have been opoty if tunde ogun hadn't been so beastly

gotta disagree on the gc qb as a 2nd teamer...he put up big yardage numbers but his completion rate was barely over 50% and he threw just 7 td's in 290 conference attempts...not good - when gc and mu played, i don't think more than 3 or 4 balls went beyond 10 yards in the air...everything was a short crossing route or a screen - lowe had 8 catches for 20 yards in the first half, if that tells you how often they went deep - i had him pegged as a 3rd teamer

also gotta disagree on hunt as a 3rd teamer - he threw for 70+ ypg less than teague and had a lower completion rate than teague, as well...but teague isn't an all-conference qb, in my book...i would have put mayo in as my 2nd team all-conference qb - he threw as many td's as hunt (5) in 80 fewer attempts and didn't have a single int...additionally, he was the 6th leading rusher in conference with 447 yards (6.6 ypc) and 3 td's - when you total his rushing and passing attempts he had just 30 total yards less than hunt on a team that finished 2nd in the conference

rb - can't disagree with any of those picks

fb - it's hard to argue against any of the three picked, but i've gotta give big props to jason layton from mu...that kid crushes people...he's a 3a-teamer :)

wr - this is where i'm really confused:
webb is a no-brainer as a first teamer and i understand that torrey lowe is a guy you have to account for, despite averaging just 8.6 ypc...i can live with them both as first teamers - if lowe had a qb and system that got him down field, he'd be the best in the conference

the 2nd teamers just mystify me...maybe they're great blockers or something...idlette was 5th in the conference in receiving yards and catches, yet he's a 2nd teamer?  spradlin was 7th in yardage and wasn't even in the top 10 in receptions and he's a 2nd teamer, as well?  both had just 2 td's (fewer than at least 4 other receivers) - i clearly think that chris peoples had a much better season than either of those guys - he was 2nd in the conference in yards/game and third in receptions/game while hauling in 4 td's and catching passes at a 15.2 ypc clip...and he was an adequate blocker :) - squallini would have been a better choice as a 2nd teamer, as well, based on the td's alone (5), but his yardage numbers (334) and ypc (10.5) weren't as attractive as idlette and spradlin...i can live with him as a 3rd teamer, but i just don't understand how peoples is a 3rd team guy

the rest of the offense is agreeable, to me

on the defensive side i was a little surprised to see glover as a 2nd teamer - i know he made a lot of tackles, but on that defense he made a lot of plays 5-7 yards down field...i thought he'd be a 3rd teamer, but i wasn't overly impressed with the way crowder played against mu (again, lots of tackles down field) and he was a 1st teamer, so maybe that's about right

bartee might have been a 1st team guy if he hadn't been injured the last 2 games of the season...he was really the brightest spot for mu on defense, although i think there are a couple of young lineman (doyne, covar, mewborn, especially) and a few young db's (mcmillan) who played well late in the season...maybe the fact that they started to come on late is a good sign for the monarchs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 20, 2008, 03:59:34 PM
Personally, I think Jake Preli should be in the mix at FB for an all-conference selection. In fact, I would have him ahead of Barnes. Preli didn't go out to catch the ball....but he was like another lineman. At 5-9 250 lbs he did some damage when he hit somebody, clearing the way for Ogun.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 20, 2008, 04:18:20 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 20, 2008, 09:17:44 AM
Last time CNU met W&J:

"Washington & Jefferson earned the victory despite being outgained by a 454-181 margin"

Turnovers kill. That game made me sick.

If any current CNU players are reading this, think about the way you felt after that game. Let it sink in. Let it linger inside and piss you off. Let it build up so much rage that when you step on the field saturday, W&J will begging for the game to be over. Hit em in the mouth. Knock em down. Put the QB in the dirt every play. Hit anyone that even thinks about catching the ball. Im talking big, nasty, bone shattering hits that will make them think twice about catching a pass ten years from now. I want our fullbacks being the meanest SOBs those linebackers have ever seen. Im not talking about just giving them a head ache. I want em hurting so bad they can barely walk the next day. I'm talking about mean and nasty, smash mouth football. Everybody. Every Play. 60 minutes.

Saturday we get our REVENGE.

Hitting Swallow is part of the plan to success... play physical upfront and take away the running game... cover 3 behind it. 

Swallow is damn good though...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 20, 2008, 04:34:45 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 20, 2008, 04:18:20 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 20, 2008, 09:17:44 AM
Last time CNU met W&J:

"Washington & Jefferson earned the victory despite being outgained by a 454-181 margin"

Turnovers kill. That game made me sick.

If any current CNU players are reading this, think about the way you felt after that game. Let it sink in. Let it linger inside and piss you off. Let it build up so much rage that when you step on the field saturday, W&J will begging for the game to be over. Hit em in the mouth. Knock em down. Put the QB in the dirt every play. Hit anyone that even thinks about catching the ball. Im talking big, nasty, bone shattering hits that will make them think twice about catching a pass ten years from now. I want our fullbacks being the meanest SOBs those linebackers have ever seen. Im not talking about just giving them a head ache. I want em hurting so bad they can barely walk the next day. I'm talking about mean and nasty, smash mouth football. Everybody. Every Play. 60 minutes.

Saturday we get our REVENGE.

Hitting Swallow is part of the plan to success... play physical upfront and take away the running game... cover 3 behind it. 

Swallow is damn good though...

Its called playing with "reckless abandonment" for 60 minutes. (not a second less).

Good luck Captains.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on November 20, 2008, 04:41:33 PM
Kickerdad,

It looks like you've got that quote thing down!   ;) :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballfan12 on November 20, 2008, 05:09:01 PM
All of you CNU fans, I am wondering how you rank this years CNU team vs. the CNU teams of the past that played against W&J? I have seen all of the past team plays and I am just wondering what you guys think. I feel that your team in 2006 was pretty scary both on the offensive side and defensive side.

Also, I believe that this years W&J team has a much better defense than in the past. The offense has a great QB but not one individual is the key to the offense. I think this is one of the most balanced W&J teams in awhile.

Also, I have heard some ranting about how this is about revenge.. I would love to hear some predictions on the game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 20, 2008, 05:57:00 PM
Narch,

maybe they factored in the special teams impact Spradlin brought to the game? Im not sure. I know in the games I saw, he had a significant impact on the game. He is a good blocker as well. :-\


Football Fan,

CNU is good this year. Better than years past? I don't know. While we did go undefeated in conference for the 1st time, we also look a lot different than past CNU teams. As always we are a very physical team. Other than that, you will have to get the rest of the details we you see us on the field.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 20, 2008, 06:12:39 PM
Congrats to Bo Jordan and the other All Conference selections. Good Luck to CNU this Saturday. You know who W&J will be keying on, so surprise us with a passing game. Concentrate on wide outs... We'll be pulling for you all the way. Represent the USAC Well, guys.........
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 20, 2008, 10:21:14 PM
Football Fan,

Not sure I can rank this year's CNU team against previous years. This team is different.  This year's team is hard to explain. They just win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 21, 2008, 12:24:57 AM
I just ready that GC will announce its new coach friday.

I was on the team last time they had a coach search.

It took two months.  Must be In House.

Roll Pride

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 21, 2008, 11:20:39 AM
Keith, Ryan and Pat have CNU losing and perhaps history suggests this. I would love to surprise the big 3. When CNU beat Bridgewater in 2003, no one believe in us. When CNU beat Mary-Hardin Baylor in 2006 no one believed in us. When CNU won the conference in our 1st year of existence no one believed in us. It's CNU against the world. It's the USA South against the world. No one gives us a shot. Might as well forfeit the game.

W&J got off the hook last time. Time to surprise the world. Show them that CNU is the real deal. My prediction:

CNU 24 -- W&J 21

Let's Go CNU keep it rolling!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 21, 2008, 11:28:51 AM
QuoteNo. 6 Christopher Newport at No. 5 Washington & Jefferson
Keith: W&J, 28-21
Ryan: W&J, 34-31
Pat: W&J, 24-21

Hmm, seven-point game, seven-point game, three-point game.

Yes, clearly, nobody gives you a shot. Puhleeze.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 21, 2008, 11:46:45 AM
The real question tomorrow is if CNU's run game can keep the W&J offense "in the cold".  I think the REAL key to their offense is Curt Jones, RB.  Good size and runs well.  The key to stopping W&J is stopping the run.   I've seen it this year... stop the run and you win with enough offense.  They still scored 4 TDs though.. You're going to need more than 24pts.

If CNU can't keep the chains moving, you'll be down 3 TD's before halftime.  If you do keep the chains moving and negate Curt Jones... this will be a great game and the Captains will wear down the President Defense.

Kickerdad,

You're right... if CNU plays like that for 60 minutes... they have a great chance to win. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 21, 2008, 03:12:30 PM
Wow, 

Im a little surprised by the coaching choice. 

Timeline
             98-01 Marion Kirby -Started the program and attracted Good Athletes until he left the coaching ranks partly due to GC committing the bare bones minimum to get a program started.  Reality was the school wanted to attract more students and an easy way to boost revenue was to bring in football.  The school never committed to establishing a foundation.
              02-08 Neil Mitchell  Inherited a program that in the previous year had serious retention issues.  Brought in a championship philosophy but limited by bare bones budget.  Program struggles due to lack of   backing by school. 
              08-Present  Dr Hunt takes over.  I believe he was a defensive guy.  He inherits a program that has made some strides but really could be on the verge of collapse unless he has the leadership to make the kids believe in him.  How many years does Dr Hunt get before the AD gets some blame for the programs problems? 



This is classic Greensboro College.  The AD fires the Head Coach and says he is committed to winning and that FB is very important and then he hires a man who hasn't coached in a very long time. 

Im going to pull for the new coach to do well but if he doesn't I think Strable should be fired for a lack of keeping the position open to see all possibilities that could have come in.  Maybe Strable could have gotten someone who's name was attached to the new england patriots (that is all it seems it takes to be hired at gc, knowing someone who has succeded)

Roll Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 21, 2008, 04:10:49 PM
Mosh,

I detect a lot of frustration in your post. I feel bad for you, specifically. You pour your heart out on these boards, a die-hard faithful. I can't even begin to imagine what it is like to have been part of a program like GC and to be so hopeful year after year that things just have to get better. Hopefully, for you, GC will someday change the emphasis they place on football and you can shout with Pride.....Roll Pride.

I think sometimes the CNU fans take the commitment for granted. The University (students, faculty, Athletic Dept), the Administration, the Community have been behind the program 100% since the day the University announced they would field a team. I know I don't take it for granted. There are a ton of variables required to make a program successful, and CNU has achieved them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 21, 2008, 07:32:08 PM
"There may be bigger or faster teams than us, but none will be better prepare." --Dr. Randy Hunt


I hope that was a typo!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 21, 2008, 09:06:33 PM
If CNU can keep it close, don't be surprised if Graham boots the game winner.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 21, 2008, 09:25:52 PM
I saw that as well.  I played for Marion Kirby for two years.  I played for Neil Mitchell for two years and both coaches are well organized and always had us well prepared.  I hope that comment wasn't directed to them.

I just don't see how anybody that has been out of coaching for so long can claim that his kids are going to be well prepared.  The real question is Dr Hunt prepared for the grind, recruitment, retention, does he have a playbook ready.  He hasn't implemented a system in how many years (did he ever coach offense)?   This is a really absurd answer to the problem.  And 85, your right man Im frustrated and regretting that I didn't go to play in Deleware for the wolverines.  

Another thing I see that the public may not, is that Dr Hunt is in Pres Williams circle.  How do you get a job a week after the firing with no offer to the public?  Really what kind of commitment to change is that?
 I just dont see how you can hire someone out of football for so long...I just dont see it.  Maybe being a pal of the President will get us some more funding...Who knows but I do know that this was not done the right way and that the problems mitchell faced had to do with funding and not coaching ability.  Asst Coaches get payed about 1/5 of what guilford pays, the school has 2 full time coaches? and a few others that put everything into the program with little compensation in return.  And now the answer is in house to a person that coached one time as a head coach (and what year was that?).  



By the way Dr Hunt was on the panel that hired mitchell

Eventually Im going to calm down and I wont say negative things on here about the program I really love.  But this is just not acceptable.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on November 21, 2008, 09:50:51 PM
Im not really sure what to say about the Capts/Pres' game tomorrow. Swallow is NASTY and the receivers from what I hear run perfect routes. I had a round table discussion with some fellow CNU faithfuls Thursday and they all think W&J will win. One thing they said CNU needs to do in order to have a chance is control time of possession. If they can keep W&J off the ball and have success running the ball, then maybe they have a chance. My heart wants the Captains to win and I believe they can. They just need to execute to perfection. I heard they got a bunch of snow up in Washington, PA today. Im actually hoping for a cross-wind of 30 mph! Maybe that will hinder the Presidents passing game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 21, 2008, 11:07:20 PM
RTT,

Thats a good thought, for CNU (cross wind), but W&J is running more of a controlled passing attack... lots of short passes with a few shots deep. 

I've had discussion with a couple people about the viability of the President's offense in the November playoff weather.  I don't think you'll see many teams be successful with a spread passing attack and no running game this late in the year. 

I really feel that CNU has a shot tomorrow..  if they dictate tempo and pace on offense, keeping the defense well rested.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 22, 2008, 09:09:24 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 21, 2008, 09:25:52 PM
I just don't see how anybody that has been out of coaching for so long can claim that his kids are going to be well prepared.  The real question is Dr Hunt prepared for the grind, recruitment, retention, does he have a playbook ready.  He hasn't implemented a system in how many years (did he ever coach offense)?   This is a really absurd answer to the problem.  

I just dont see how you can hire someone out of football for so long...I just dont see it.  

Mosh,

I'm very sorry as well with this decision by GC.  Right now with the amount of schools playing Division II/III/I-AA non-scholarship in North Carolina, I don't think hiring a head coach who hasn't been a college coach for over 17 years is going to help in attaining recruits at GC.  It hard to say you are committed to your football program by hiring your  science teacher.

Like I've said before, GC has many good athletes, played good defense, but seemed it was more important getting Torrey Lowe alot catches (stats) for 4-8 yard gains than developing a balance & effective offense.

I don't see how this hiring will enhance the USA-South Conference.

But look at it this way, at least GC saves money by not having to pay for a new head coach.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 22, 2008, 10:02:36 AM
good luck to the capts today...bring a "W" home for the usasac, boys
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 22, 2008, 11:03:05 AM
The question was asked how this CNU team ranks against teams of the past. I give this team credit for winning but swish 3 spoke briefly about the MVP of CNU's team Jay Graham. Without him we wouldn't even be talking about ranking this team against CNU teams of the past.

The only encouragement I have for this years team is you have not done anything that was not expected of you when you signed up to come to CNU. Your legacy will be defined like all other teams and that's by what you do in the playoffs. I am not going to predict a score but I will take a W anyway you can bring it back to VA. Football is the most interesting and most watched sport out of the big 3 because of one thing and one thing only. Whether you are playing in a playoff system or a BCS title game all it takes is one bad game and you're going home a loser. There is no best out of 3, 5, or 7 only the best team on that day will move on or be named champs.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 22, 2008, 11:15:07 AM
Less than an hour before game time. Nobody is really reading the boards right now. Good luck to CNU! Let's get the W&J monkey off our back like we did Rowan last year. I'l be listening to the webcast or on the radio in my car...wherever I am today. I wish I could be in Washington PA, but couldn't make it. But I just might make some road trip plans for next weekend if everything works out ok.

I hope the CNU run offense is like nothing W&J has seen. They have only given up 72 yds per game. But I doubt they have faced a line, blocking backs and a runner like Ogun before. Only a few more minutes to tell.

CNUs defensive backfield better be ready to play. Swallow and the WRs are going to light you up! Hit hard, pic a few, and the front 7 better have Swallow on his back all game.


I gurantee that if we see yardage totals like the last game, CNU will win easily. But I have a feeling this is going to be a hard fought, close game. It wil come down to the CNU running game and how the CNU defense handles the passing game of W&J.

Go CAPTAINS!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 22, 2008, 02:47:01 PM
To all the CNU players. Thanks for another great year. The W&J game was frustrating. But I bet I was only 1/10th as frustrated as you were. To the CNU Defense...good job adjusting. Take that into next year...the team that rolled over you for 301 yds in the first half, you stopped dead for 95 yds in the second half. To all the Freshman and Sophmores who started for the first time this year.....you're not rookies anymore. You are now experienced players....be ready for next year.

To the seniors...THANKS for a great 4 years. I know I can't name you all, but thanks to Jay Graham, Nate Williams, Deshaun Parker, Gooch, Wagner.....and the seniors on the O-line........I know I'm missing some names trying to get them from the top of my head.....but thanks to you all. Good luck as you now move on beyond sports.

To the coaches and staff.....wow.....you took a very young team, adjusted to early injuries and ran off 8 in a row. I'm looking towards next year. But first, I have to head over to the hoops board and cheer on Blasingame, Barton and the rest.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 22, 2008, 10:28:38 PM
Im back in VA and have had 7 hours to digest what I saw at the game. CNU was effective running the ball for the most part. But I felt like we abandoned it after we got stopped once. We all knew what W&J was bringing to the table. they have run the same offense since God knows when. Short high percentage passes with one or two shots deep. They burned us quick in the first half and I know we were down a few scores but I knew the D would eventually crack down on em. You could sense the desperation.

Then BAM! Swallow was picked for a CNU TD! and all of a sudden that confidence was restored. It carried over to the 2nd half and we slowly fought our way back into the game. The guys fought hard. Damn hard. I could count about 10 plays that if just one had gone our way, we would be bringing home a W. Twice we had W&J stopped on 4&6 or so yet they converted. 1st drive we got down to the 3 and couldn't put it in. A bobbled onside that W&J comes up with. Little things here and there. But its the little things that get you beat.

Hats off to CNU. I know the players don't want to hear it but, W&J is a good team and you stood strong today. You handled yourselves like real men and never gave up.

W&J 35 --  CNU 29   
Underclassmen. Remember, the way it feels. You will have your shot at the Presidents in 2010.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 26, 2008, 09:57:28 PM
I will be sleeping a little better this off season. More so than last year. 2009 could be the best ever for CNU football.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_cnu_1125nov25,0,4133309.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_cnu_1125nov25,0,4133309.story)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on December 09, 2008, 10:17:24 AM
It's like a ghost town. Kinda eerie when I log on now. I guess my job is done here. Cheered on CNU. Pissed off the opposition. Dropped my karma to -25. Looks like a job well done. See you all next year! GO CNU!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 11, 2008, 10:10:39 PM
Sure buddy,

Your screwed.  Our new coach owns you!

Roll Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on December 12, 2008, 10:18:03 AM
Good luck to your buys next year mosh. I hope with the new coach come a new success.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on December 19, 2008, 06:03:08 PM
Just wanted to say congratulations to the 2 All Americans from the USA South

Tunde Ogun  RB CNU

T.J. Grzesikowski  P Ferrum College

Great season for both teams and both players...Great Job Guys!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 20, 2008, 11:05:30 AM
I second that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 25, 2008, 04:55:59 PM
Merry Christmas
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on January 10, 2009, 09:07:41 AM
Happy 2009 everyone!

Even though it January, I am still following on a far less active basis, D3 football and especially Ferrum.

Well Ferrum released it 2009 schedule, and it looks like a lot of changes to the order this year. Ferrum opens conference play at NC Wesleyan, and closes the regular season at Maryville TN. We lately had been playing CNU the last game of the season, but this year that game is a Halloween affair at Ferrum.  Trick. or Treat???

Also traditionally the Blue Ridge Folklife Festival is the last Saturday in October on the Ferrum Campus. It attracts thousands from all over. Unless that is changed, and I doubt that it will be, I would start trying to make your motel reservations now. There are not that many motels in that area.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on January 13, 2009, 04:07:46 PM
SU released its 2009 schedule yesterday.http://www.su.edu/athletics/master_schedule.cfm?sport=Football Some notable changes to the Hornets schedule are having Ferrum now the forth team they play in conference play as opposed to starting up conference play with them. The Hornets now open the conference season up with CNU and close out with Greensboro. Anyone know why the schedules were changed this year from years past? I hope this becomes a new thing. It makes things more interesting I feel than to have the same schedule year in year out. Also the Hornets announced yesterday that former  Washington Redskin great Joe Jacoby will now be a full time ast. coach. http://www.su.edu/athletics/hornets_news.cfm?spid=2235
GO HORNETS!!
Title: Tunde Ogun
Post by: bask1804 on January 13, 2009, 05:37:30 PM
Just want to update everyone in the south region.  Tunde is training very hard for this upcoming season.  He is now 223 pounds.  He has put on 5 pounds of muscle since the last game.  He is running track now to get his speed and agility up.  My nephew is ready to go and is going to get 2000 yards this season!!!!  The Nigerian Nightmare will be in everyones dreams.  Dont go to sleep.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bask1804 on January 13, 2009, 05:50:38 PM
Just to let the USA SOUTH ATHLETIC CONFERENCE fans know that my nephew Tunde Ogun is getting ready for the 2009 campaign.  He is noew 223 pounds and is running track.  Good Luck to all who tries to stop him.  The Nigerian Nightmare will be in their dreams.  Don't go to sleep.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on January 13, 2009, 07:05:12 PM
While Tunde is training, I hope you are able to work on your spelling and grammar.  Good luck!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bask1804 on January 13, 2009, 08:48:20 PM
Well I can understand your comment I did make some mistakes but it seems 225 yards and 3 touchdowns was not.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 14, 2009, 12:46:17 AM
Quote from: bask1804 on January 13, 2009, 08:48:20 PM
Well I can understand your comment I did make some mistakes but it seems 225 yards and 3 touchdowns was not.
Tunde sounds like a great player, but sadly, with your last sentence (and I use that term loosely), you keep reinforcing ProudFightingScot's point!  I spot five!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on January 14, 2009, 04:07:16 PM
That's a high five hasanova.  Tunde is a great player and we feel fortunate that we gave up only 225 by Tunde because the next 4 weeks he racked up more yards against the next 4 opponents.  All I am saying that I hope bask1804 does not become Tunde's agent.  He could lose alot of money...... :D :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on January 14, 2009, 07:07:56 PM
Yikes, the new guy hasn't even gotten his feet wet, and the sharks are already nipping at his toes. Tough crowd (and narch didn't even post yet)! :P :P

bask1804: From experience, my advice on here would be to speak your mind, keep an open mind, and mind your P's and Q's in your posts. That'll get you the furthest on the message board.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 14, 2009, 10:23:16 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on January 14, 2009, 07:07:56 PM
Yikes, the new guy hasn't even gotten his feet wet, and the sharks are already nipping at his toes. Tough crowd (and narch didn't even post yet)! :P :P

bask1804: From experience, my advice on here would be to speak your mind, keep an open mind, and mind your P's and Q's in your posts. That'll get you the furthest on the message board.  :)

Welcome aboard, bask1804!  Ryan's right ... and the new guy gets to carry the luggage.  :)  Tunde is good - I hope I get to see him play next season.

PS  narch is in a different league from me (pun intended).  lol   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 22, 2009, 09:53:49 AM
GREAT NEWS FOR CNU!!!!

This guy just completed a High School career coaching the Phoebus Phantoms to a #2 NATIONAL ranking per Rivals.com and a AAA Division 5 State Championship - 4 out of last 8 years State Champs. He has more than a handful of seniors going D1 this year including QB Tahj Boyd who is narrowing his choices to Ohio State, Clemson, Oregon. VT fans remember the Adibi brothers? Phoebus products

Welcome Coach Bill Dee - you;re a Captain now....welcome aboard!!

Numerous stories below from local paper

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/highschool/ (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/highschool/)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 22, 2009, 08:30:40 PM
Nice pick up for cnu.  One of my buddies played them the last phoebus the last few yrs in the playoffs.  I think each team that won the game went on to win the state title.  Def going to be tough switching from head coach to assistant but that is pretty awesome that he is doing it.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 23, 2009, 10:43:27 AM
Good thing your buddy didn't play Phoebus this past year. 720 total point scored. Gave up 53. Their Defense scored more than their opponents. Average margin of victory was about 45 points. Personally, I don't like Phoebus since I'm a Bethel guy. But we all hate the Hampton Crabbers.


But heylike I said earlier...Coach Dee is a Captain now.....so now I like him!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 23, 2009, 01:29:01 PM
They did and they were good.  His HS is stonebridge va.  And they are pretty nasty as well.  I think they had 4 dlineman go d1 this past year.  I guess that is a credit to how good phoebus is.   One of my college teamates played their with r curry at phoebus.  I wonder if that is going to help cnu pull in more talent??Damn, this was an awful pickup for everyone else in this conf.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 23, 2009, 03:12:14 PM
Oh yea...Stone Bridge. That was the state semi final game. They have a really good team. Phoebus just demolished them 38-8. The Phoebus team was just unreal this year. It wasn't fair to most teams they faced. I'm hoping Coach Dee's reputation pulls in a few guys. I think the biggest areas of impact with Dee will be recruiting, winning attitude, and defensive mindset!

If y'all thought CNU's D was good in year's past...give Dee a couple of years!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 23, 2009, 09:47:10 PM
Looks like schedules are going to be different this year. Does anyone have a link to the conference schedule?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bask1804 on January 24, 2009, 09:00:15 AM
I have the schedule for 2009.  Open up with wesley sept. 6.  Then they have a buy.
Play three straight home games.  Give me your email address so I can send it to you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on January 24, 2009, 09:24:55 PM
[]Also traditionally the Blue Ridge Folklife Festival is the last Saturday in October on the Ferrum Campus. It attracts thousands from all over. Unless that is changed, and I doubt that it will be, I would start trying to make your motel reservations now. There are not that many motels in that area.

The good news is that the Folklife Festival is the preceeding weekend. It may help on the motel accomodations
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 25, 2009, 12:39:15 PM
Quote from: bask1804 on January 24, 2009, 09:00:15 AM
I have the schedule for 2009.  Open up with wesley sept. 6.  Then they have a buy.
Play three straight home games.  Give me your email address so I can send it to you.

thanks......under my name in the left of each post are three icons...the middle one is email address. Click there and it opens up email....daved7@aol.com in case something isn't right.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on January 25, 2009, 03:28:05 PM
CNU 
  Is the Wesley game in Dover and what date?

I don't think Wesley will release their schedule til May...because of the uncertainty of who thye are playing..

Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 25, 2009, 09:04:05 PM
Not sure exactly. My guess is that the game is at Wesley and that it would be the first Saturday after Labor Day. When I get a schedule I'll post it here for everyone to see.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 25, 2009, 09:25:22 PM
do us all a favor and keep cnu schedule unposted.  they are the devil
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 25, 2009, 09:32:19 PM
I will post it twice and then email it to you!!! :-*
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 28, 2009, 08:37:47 AM
one...

Sept 5th  @ Wesley
Sept 12th BYE
Sept 18 Home vs Salisbury
Sept 26 Home vs Wilkes
Oct 3rd Home vs Shenandoah
Oct 10th @ Averett
Oct 17 Home vs N.C. Wesleyan
Oct 24th @ Greensboro
Oct 31st @ Ferrum
Nov 7th Home vs Maryville
Nov 14th @ Methodist
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 28, 2009, 08:38:05 AM
two...

Sept 5th  @ Wesley
Sept 12th BYE
Sept 18 Home vs Salisbury
Sept 26 Home vs Wilkes
Oct 3rd Home vs Shenandoah
Oct 10th @ Averett
Oct 17 Home vs N.C. Wesleyan
Oct 24th @ Greensboro
Oct 31st @ Ferrum
Nov 7th Home vs Maryville
Nov 14th @ Methodist
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 28, 2009, 08:38:21 AM
Check email!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 28, 2009, 08:57:56 AM
luckily for me.  my email has changed.  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on January 28, 2009, 12:11:08 PM
Dang.....ruined all my fun for the day!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 30, 2009, 09:45:35 AM
A fairly big announcement from Greensboro today as Guilford College alumnus and former Reidsville (NC) HS coach Jimmy Teague has joined the Pride as Offensive Coordinator.  Teague was very successful with the Reidsville Rams, going 198-40 in 17 seasons and winning four state championships (2002, '03, '07 and '08).  This will set up some interesting match-ups when Greensboro and Teague face Methodist, whose QB is Teague's son Erik, although the coach already says his wife will be pulling for MU.  lol

Under Teague, the RHS Rams have always hade a high-powered offense, regularly scoring 40-60 points per game.  The Pride were an anemic 14.5 ppg last season, so it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on January 30, 2009, 01:11:52 PM
'nova - i should have known you'd beat me to that announcement, what with the reidsville/guilford connection - here is the link (http://www.greensborocollegesports.com/news/2009/1/30/FB_0130091245.aspx?path=football) to the full story on the gc website - this is a great hire for gc - coach teague is really well respected and will lend credibility to that coaching staff - by all accounts he's a better person than coach (although i've never personally met him, i know many who have) - kinda makes me dislike gc a little less (just a little, though :))

...and sorry to let you guys down on the grammar stuff a page back...looks like you handled it well without me :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 30, 2009, 03:02:06 PM
Quote from: narch on January 30, 2009, 01:11:52 PM
'nova - i should have known you'd beat me to that announcement, what with the reidsville/guilford connection - here is the link (http://www.greensborocollegesports.com/news/2009/1/30/FB_0130091245.aspx?path=football) to the full story on the gc website - this is a great hire for gc - coach teague is really well respected and will lend credibility to that coaching staff - by all accounts he's a better person than coach (although i've never personally met him, i know many who have) - kinda makes me dislike gc a little less (just a little, though :))

...and sorry to let you guys down on the grammar stuff a page back...looks like you handled it well without me :)
Good afternoon, narch.  I read the story in this morning's Greensboro News & Record and figured d3football.com would post it later in the day (it's up).  To be honest with you, I knew more about Coach Teague as a successful HS coach and MU's Erik's father than I did the Guilford connection.  It's a good hire for GCP ... when he "retired" from RHS, I figured he wasn't ready, at age 50, to give up football completely.  If he opens the offense up as much at Greensboro as he did at Reidsville, the Pride will score a lot more ... of course, you've also got to have the athletes to make it happen!

Grammatically and athletically, we always know you've got our back!  lol 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 30, 2009, 03:46:42 PM
I like the hire.  I don't know how much more you can open that offense up though.  I think you try to get the pride offense more balanced to make it more effective. 

 Did anyone see the story about the nfl brains?  I was thinking about donating mine to see what a college athletes looks like. 

I'm sure we will see 4 or 5 players from Reidsville on the roster next year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on January 30, 2009, 07:38:45 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on January 30, 2009, 03:46:42 PMI don't know how much more you can open that offense up though.
they could have started by sending someone more than 4 yards down field on a passing play...they threw the ball around a lot last year, but they didn't stretch the field - a talent like torrey lowe shouldn't be relegated to 4 yard crossing patterns all day...he had 8 catches for 20 yards in the first half against mu - the two long pass plays against mu were short passes that turned into long plays when monarch defenders broke down (or fell down)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 30, 2009, 10:11:24 PM
For the most part you need a running game that can threaten you and you also have to have a qb that can deliver a long ball accurately. 

Didn't get a chance to see them play live so I couldn't tell you with much honesty if they had those things. 

I would go back to the gimmick kirby days and use two slots and try to get some option fb going.  GC gets enough talent to run that offense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 01, 2009, 06:12:29 PM
Good Luck to Newport News native Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. Tomlin was offered a scholly to William and Mary by none other than CNU coach Kelchner.

Another local connection is Cardinals lineman Elton Brown from Hampton....sorry Elton, you are a Crabber so this Bruin is cheering for the Steelers!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on February 01, 2009, 08:38:35 PM
I played against Willie Parker when he was at Clinton...he was probably the second best running back on his team in high school.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 02, 2009, 01:10:52 PM
He didn't play much in college either. Who was the #1 guy at Clinton? Where did he end up?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on February 02, 2009, 04:27:20 PM
I think the kids name was Derek Fisher (that might not be it though). He went to ECU and at one time was leading the nation in rushing.  I think he got hurt pretty bad if my memory serves me right.

That Clinton team was absolutely loaded for about 4 years.  It seemed like all 22 starters went D1.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 02, 2009, 07:47:48 PM
how about jj arrington a product of northern nash hs also playing in the superbowl last night.

i taught at nn  for a year after the school was past its glory days
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 08, 2009, 01:41:35 AM
Interesting piece about D3 and national signing day for D1

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_column0204feb04,0,3767670.column (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_column0204feb04,0,3767670.column)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 08, 2009, 01:45:40 AM
More for your off-season reading enjoyment

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_sbnotz_0201feb01,0,6438593.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_sbnotz_0201feb01,0,6438593.story)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 08, 2009, 10:59:39 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on February 08, 2009, 01:41:35 AM
Interesting piece about D3 and national signing day for D1

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_column0204feb04,0,3767670.column (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_column0204feb04,0,3767670.column)
Thanks ... enjoyed reading it.  +1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 08, 2009, 11:42:24 AM
One of my college teammates had a good day at his high school the other day.

https://mail.greensborocollege.edu/Redirect/gamedaymagazine.com/2009/02/signing_day_2009_recruiting_no.php

stonebridge hs va
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 09, 2009, 09:40:09 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on February 08, 2009, 11:42:24 AM
One of my college teammates had a good day at his high school the other day.

https://mail.greensborocollege.edu/Redirect/gamedaymagazine.com/2009/02/signing_day_2009_recruiting_no.php

stonebridge hs va

couldn't get link to work
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 09, 2009, 10:33:49 PM
I dont know why, but gboro college is in the link from my email but the article was about stonebridge hs va and its huge d1 recruiting class.

apologies for the bad link
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 09, 2009, 10:37:31 PM
http://gamedaymagazine.com/2009/02/signing_day_2009_recruiting_no.php



here it is.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 10, 2009, 03:06:56 PM
Another article in today's Greensboro News & Record about picketers in front of Greensboro College protesting the location of the new sports park in the Warnersville section just south of downtown.  GCP gave them everything they asked for, but now some of the residents still aren't happy.  Personally, I hope GC pulls the plug on it and looks elsewhere.  They're landlocked, however, so it may not be easy.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 10, 2009, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: hasanova on February 10, 2009, 03:06:56 PM
Another article in today's Greensboro News & Record about picketers in front of Greensboro College protesting the location of the new sports park in the Warnersville section just south of downtown.  GCP gave them everything they asked for, but now some of the residents still aren't happy.  Personally, I hope GC pulls the plug on it and looks elsewhere.  They're landlocked, however, so it may not be easy.   
What can you say (http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/02/10/article/greensboro_college_s_plans_for_warnersville_stir_more_debate)?

Where will a structure like that be preserved best outside of the local college?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 10, 2009, 05:35:17 PM
Quote from: hasanova on February 10, 2009, 03:06:56 PM
Another article in today's Greensboro News & Record about picketers in front of Greensboro College protesting the location of the new sports park in the Warnersville section just south of downtown.  GCP gave them everything they asked for, but now some of the residents still aren't happy.  Personally, I hope GC pulls the plug on it and looks elsewhere.  They're landlocked, however, so it may not be easy.   

HA.. Just read the article. What do you expect when the leader of the opposition group is named Otis. He should go back to Mayberry and lock himself up. I hope GC will be able to move forward with their plans for improvement!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 10, 2009, 05:41:21 PM
Good thing they don't want to build it here in Pa. Our school district has been in litigation for over 15 years  with two of our high schools neighbors who have successfully stopped the construction of football field. The school is now 30 yrs old and our players have never had a true home game..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 10, 2009, 06:14:02 PM
You know, I understand and appreciate the historical significance of J. C. Price School, but it's not as though it has real architectural or deep-rooted antebellum significance.  It's a fairly nondescript mid-twentieth century building in a part of town that sorely needs some revitalization.  In my opinion, Greensboro College will do more for the area economically (and from a preservation point of view) than any other entity.   In fact, in the current economy, I think they're the only viable entity.  I don't know GC President Craven Williams very well, but we do live in the same area of town and attend the same YMCA.  I could sense his frustration in the article ... that's the tone of a man ready to say "to heck with you!"   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on February 10, 2009, 06:16:19 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 10, 2009, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: hasanova on February 10, 2009, 03:06:56 PM
Another article in today's Greensboro News & Record about picketers in front of Greensboro College protesting the location of the new sports park in the Warnersville section just south of downtown.  GCP gave them everything they asked for, but now some of the residents still aren't happy.  Personally, I hope GC pulls the plug on it and looks elsewhere.  They're landlocked, however, so it may not be easy.   
What can you say (http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/02/10/article/greensboro_college_s_plans_for_warnersville_stir_more_debate)?

Where will a structure like that be preserved best outside of the local college?
The cooler heads know it won't.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 10, 2009, 08:52:55 PM
I just read the article.  It stated the school wasn't going to build a football stadium there??  Whats the point then? GC loves to buy antiquated buildings (like the old ymca) and price in da hood and do little with them.  The people that are protesting are the same exact people that left the forties on the field or the gangbangers that where always getting pulled over by the police.

they should flip a coin to see if gc can use price.  sounds about right.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on February 11, 2009, 11:23:47 AM
I've been out of the loop with pride athletics. The hiring of Randy Hunt and Jimmy Teague sounds great on paper.

I hope there is a little more balance out there next year.  As much as I enjoy watching the spread offense at work.  There is a time and place whenthat offense just won't work.  Maybe when a Nor'easter is blowing through, I could be wrong though.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on February 15, 2009, 11:27:08 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on January 25, 2009, 09:25:22 PM
do us all a favor and keep cnu schedule unposted.  they are the devil

I don't know if they are the Devil but most teams "play hell" trying to beat them
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 16, 2009, 03:29:52 PM
Quote from: Allen C on February 15, 2009, 11:27:08 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on January 25, 2009, 09:25:22 PM
do us all a favor and keep cnu schedule unposted.  they are the devil

I don't know if they are the Devil but most teams "play hell" trying to beat them

As Mork would say, "R-R-R"

Dang - showing my age again!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 16, 2009, 10:18:57 PM
or as Papi would say...."he he he spit in da coooler".

MOSHBERG my dawg....where you be boy?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 17, 2009, 12:35:14 PM
Im here,  waiting to see what the change in greensboro really means.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 17, 2009, 03:47:25 PM
Change at Greensboro? What? You getting a stimulus package? ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 17, 2009, 05:06:27 PM
I wish.  Maybe we could use that money to buy a stadium on the school grounds for football and not the other lame sports we endorse.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 17, 2009, 09:27:09 PM
Mosh,

Don't bash the cricket team!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on February 18, 2009, 08:21:51 PM
have you heard the latest on the sports park and how they are going to work things when it happens. The way that I heard it is that they are going to turn Pride Field into the football field when the park is built. (WHENEVER THAT WILL BE......LOL)




Quote from: moshergc9 on February 17, 2009, 05:06:27 PM
I wish.  Maybe we could use that money to buy a stadium on the school grounds for football and not the other lame sports we endorse.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 19, 2009, 03:56:05 PM
Yeah thats what I assumed they would try to do.  Im sure the people in the area will love that idea.  Im sure somebody will oppose it and try to stop it.  If the schools administration folds to pressure to not putting a football field over at price im sure you can just imagine what they will get near the school campus.

That is a parking nightmare if that happens and im sure the funds to build a parking deck are not in the plans.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 20, 2009, 12:34:32 AM
I always thought that G-Boro played  great football at night in the huge stadium. I liked the  atmosphere. I guess that Vulcan was right "the only constant is change".  :)

I know somebody come with some money and will stand up one day.

When I hit the lotto Lees-McRae will get football back and I wil be head coach, Mosh the D Coord, and Papi will keep beer in the cooler for Sunday film break down and, Narch will be my SIO.  ;). That got to take me back.....a legacy and I will have the $$. :)

AS far as Papi goes...."what fraternity would pledge a man such as you" :-*
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on February 20, 2009, 08:51:06 AM
As long as we can have rum at film studies I'm in!!!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 21, 2009, 12:16:19 PM
sounds interesting. rums good for me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 26, 2009, 04:51:11 PM
the monarchs are getting new football digs...finally

press release (http://www.mumonarchs.com/news/2009/2/26/FB_0226093951.aspx)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on February 26, 2009, 06:41:32 PM
Looks like its gonna be pretty nice...I'm sure Coach Sy is thrilled!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 27, 2009, 09:17:49 AM
Very nice.  Looks like methodist is trying to close that facility gap.  Should def help with recruiting.  GC should take note of that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 27, 2009, 01:46:23 PM
It's always nice to be able to provide quality facilities to young student-athletes. These kids have worked their tails off to play college ball. It's good to hear they're going to have something they will be proud of.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on February 27, 2009, 08:50:08 PM
Narch, is the new building going where the old "tin gym" stood???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 01, 2009, 11:32:11 AM
When is spring practice?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on March 02, 2009, 06:48:32 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on February 27, 2009, 08:50:08 PM
Narch, is the new building going where the old "tin gym" stood???

It would be nice to be able to replace the "tin gym" with the new facility, and still keep the old locker rooms for something else football related. Maybe meeting rooms or something of that nature.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on March 02, 2009, 06:54:19 PM
Byrd man...How's life been treating you son?  You still playing ball?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on March 03, 2009, 07:00:31 PM
Nope, my playing days are done. Chased that dream as long as I could. Just teaching at WOHS, and coaching. What you up to these days? I see abnrgr is still around and creating trouble!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 04, 2009, 12:53:14 PM
I remember when I decided not to play anymore.  my last college game.  couldnt get any better than that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on March 04, 2009, 05:21:56 PM
Couldnt stick for longer than a week with any Arena one teams, then an acl tear, that was enough for me! Back to important topics...Papi, you seen the new buildings at OL MC (now MU of course)? Place is really upgrading, should help bring in alot more students. I have an OLineman that I am trying to sway that way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on March 05, 2009, 09:43:06 AM
I haven't been up that way in quite some time.  We need to get the fellas together and check out a game this year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 05, 2009, 02:05:49 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on February 27, 2009, 08:50:08 PM
Narch, is the new building going where the old "tin gym" stood???
i'm having a hard time envisioning it from the architectural renderings, but it's going to connect the current locker room and the existing (unused) boiler room (which is the right side of the maintenance building if you're looking at that facility from the field) - at 8,600+ sf, it's a pretty nice sized facility, and apparently the firm that is building it has really gotten pumped up about proving they can incorporate two existing facilities and create a new and better end product...it will be interesting to see this evolve - i think it will clearly help recruiting and retention, which i think will ultimately make the monarchs better on the field
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on March 05, 2009, 09:54:11 PM
I'll have to make a trip up that way and see it when it gets done.  Got any trips planned this way in the future Narch?  Haven't been to 22 North in a while, but I bet the beer is still cold!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on March 08, 2009, 09:26:19 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on March 05, 2009, 09:43:06 AM
I haven't been up that way in quite some time.  We need to get the fellas together and check out a game this year!

Sounds like a plan to me. I did not make it up to a game this year, first time I have not seen a Monarch game going back to 2001. The place as really made some upgrades from our time there. I would love to see some visitors stands on the other side.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 12, 2009, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on March 05, 2009, 09:54:11 PM
I'll have to make a trip up that way and see it when it gets done.  Got any trips planned this way in the future Narch?  Haven't been to 22 North in a while, but I bet the beer is still cold!
nothing planned yet for the summer, but you know if i get down that way, i'll hit you up

if you and jbyrd get up for a game this fall, we'll have to make a postgame run down to the husk

they've started cleaning out the old boiler room already...the old locker room will be torn up soon...it's kinda hard to believe the monarchs will actually have a real locker facility :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on March 16, 2009, 05:17:35 PM
So with all of this talk of new facilities, I wonder how the folks on this board rate the facilities in the USA South?  Besides Ferrum, I  have only been to CNU, and Shenandoah, but I think they are both pretty nice. Lots of you guys have been to, or played at all of them, so I just wonder how you rate them 1 best, to 8 worst.

I dont know what to suggest for criteria, but Field, Locker rooms, stands, concession, and restrooms come to mind. Someone go ahead and take the idea and refine it, and set up a poll we can vote on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 16, 2009, 09:59:32 PM
From a players point of view.

1. su-upgraded since i played-use to be worst from thick grass to turf and field house close to field
2.  cnu-small female lockers we used were a decent walk to the field
3.  ferrum- locker rooms miles away but very nice playing surface
4.   methodist- locker rooms?  field with thicker grass in nice shape
5.  Gboro--HS Locker room--field surface overplayed.
6.   Nc Wes  hs locker room in the country, overplayed
7.  au-field house for themselves on field level-they put the visitors up in the main gym?  field not good
8. Maryville?  Didnt play them way back when.  (prob top 3 from film i have seen)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on March 18, 2009, 03:55:48 PM
I am going to try to add a link about the new facilities Ferrum is building. Check it out.


http://www.ferrum.edu/nortoncenter/about/#gallery
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 18, 2009, 08:52:14 PM
Very Nice,  That is the difference between Greensboro and Ferrum.  Ferrum knows that by bringing in alot of football players they are brining alot more money to  the school.  Greensboro College just seems content to do sit back and wonder why they cant get 130 kids in camp.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on March 18, 2009, 10:30:30 PM
It will be nice- There is still a ton of money to raise. If anyone is interested in the career of Hank Norton, I posted a synopsis on my blog. Here is a link:

http://ferrumfootball.blogspot.com/2009_02_01_archive.html

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on March 19, 2009, 01:32:28 AM
1. CNU - Div. 1-AA type stadium.  Only drawback is walk from locker rooms for home and away teams.
2. MARYVILLE-Obviously I'm biased, but a great atmosphere for college football.  Small locker rooms for visitors.  Very good turf on field.
3. SHENANDOAH-Great improvements in field and stadium. Could edge Maryville because of better locker room facilities for visitors.
4. FERRUM-Much improvement in the field and good atmosphere.  Big drawback is walk from locker rooms to stadium.
5. METHODIST-No stands behind the visitors bench is a big minus.  Small visiting locker rooms.  Made good field improvements this past year.
6. NC WESLEYAN-High School stadium.  Need to get your own field.
7. GREENSBORO-High School stadium. Ranks below NCW because they play night games so their 200 fans can come and watch the Pride play.
8. AVERETT-Terrible field.  Long walk to visitors locker room.  In fact, MC stays on the soccer field so they don't have to make the 1/4 mile walk to fieldhouse.  Visitors stands look like stands you see at 8-10 year old youth football games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 19, 2009, 03:15:38 PM
Im starting to not like m villes fans.

You should mention how yall can drink tenn whiskey in your endzone and the use of racial slurs is somewhat ok???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on March 19, 2009, 08:23:14 PM
whatever... get over yourself, or maybe think of something else to say everytime you don't like what I say.  Oh and I hear if your biology teacher doesn't work out as the head coach your English professor is available.  Maybe you and the other 199 people that are there might be able to throw a little money together to donate to upgrade from the high school field.  Or even better, if yall might drink some of that Tennessee Whiskey, you will be seeing double so you can say 400 fans showed up!  Then you could actually say you NEED to upgrade from the high school field.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on March 19, 2009, 09:48:14 PM
Man, all this anger....put down the whiskey and pick up some rhum...it's hard to be angry when you're sipping rhum on the beach!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 20, 2009, 07:14:52 PM
HaHa.  What can I say to that.  Nothing. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 20, 2009, 09:37:06 PM
What's rhum?   :D :D :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on March 20, 2009, 09:48:23 PM
possibly how you spell rum when you have been drinking it for a while ?  :P ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 21, 2009, 08:55:12 PM
Hey Proud Scot,

I apologize for offending your fragile heart.  alice!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 21, 2009, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 20, 2009, 09:37:06 PM
What's rhum?   :D :D :D
the high quality stuff...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on March 21, 2009, 11:49:22 PM
Did we forget about the facility rating?...Oh well, it was just a thought.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 22, 2009, 06:36:50 PM
Quote from: Allen C on March 21, 2009, 11:49:22 PM
Did we forget about the facility rating?...Oh well, it was just a thought.

Well, when someone starts mentioning drinks from the Islands...we get sidetracked!! :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on March 26, 2009, 04:25:33 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on March 19, 2009, 01:32:28 AM
1. CNU - Div. 1-AA type stadium.  Only drawback is walk from locker rooms for home and away teams.
2. MARYVILLE-Obviously I'm biased, but a great atmosphere for college football.  Small locker rooms for visitors.  Very good turf on field.
3. SHENANDOAH-Great improvements in field and stadium. Could edge Maryville because of better locker room facilities for visitors.
4. FERRUM-Much improvement in the field and good atmosphere.  Big drawback is walk from locker rooms to stadium.
5. METHODIST-No stands behind the visitors bench is a big minus.  Small visiting locker rooms.  Made good field improvements this past year.
6. NC WESLEYAN-High School stadium.  Need to get your own field.
7. GREENSBORO-High School stadium. Ranks below NCW because they play night games so their 200 fans can come and watch the Pride play.
8. AVERETT-Terrible field.  Long walk to visitors locker room.  In fact, MC stays on the soccer field so they don't have to make the 1/4 mile walk to fieldhouse.  Visitors stands look like stands you see at 8-10 year old youth football games.

From a fan's and parents view:

1. CNU     Good field, good stands, nice facilities (restrooms etc.). Players have to walk a mile to get from locker rooms to field (both teams), and the parking is good.
2. Maryville     Good field, stands and nice facilities. Visitors have to walk over to home side for restrooms and concessions. parking is right there and you are able to tail gate. Locker rooms are close to field. Visitor stands could stand to be a little further back from players bench. Moms get offended when some of the players and/or coaches say things they shouldn't.
3. Shennadoah   Good field, good stands, nice facilities. For the players the locker rooms are right there at the end zone. For visitors, they have to go outside the gates and walk completely around the out skirts of the stadium and go back in the gates to get to concessions. Parking is in the middle of a cow pasture of sorts and if you want to tail gate they put you at the very back which is another 1/4 mile walk.
4. Ferrum    Nice stands, facilities. (I think the field has a few holes especially near the end zones) restrooms are close as is concessions. Locker room for visitors is further than Averetts. Parking is OK, but if you want to tail gate you better be careful because you are right on the road in some cases.
5. NCWC      Yes it is a public city supported/high school stadium but at least there are plenty of seats for visitors, parking is close to gates, concessions both sides as well as bathrooms. Field was OK last time we went but the drought got to it the following year. This year they played at a different stadium and that one was the pits.
6. Methodist      no visitor seats. Visitors have to sit with home crowd. Field is average, seen worst. Parking OK, limited space to tail gate unless you go on the other side of the gym. Visiting team has to climb a mountain to get to their locker rooms. Only has portables for rest rooms, have to stand in line with everyone else.
7. Greensboro     Lets just say that the college needs to provide the football team its own place to call home. The place they play now is older than I am. visiting team has no room on side lines for kickers to warm up. Bathrooms are the pits....I would prefer to go in the woods and take my chances with the snakes. Been there twice and everytime the toilets are stopped up with everything you can think of, smells terrible and just plain dirty.
8. Averett      Now you would think I would have them higher on the list but lets see......terrible field, stays too wet and by the time the football team plays a home game the soccer team has torn it all to hell. Locker rooms are right there for home team but they have to separate the team for half time meetings because of tight quarters. Visitors have no where to go but 1/4 mile across a hot parking lot and dress in small rooms in the center. (gym). Teams are exposed to roudy fans at times (drunk) and they get harrassed. Security no where to be found except when you ring your cow bell then they want to get smart. No real concession stands only portable trailers with limited food and drinks. Vistor stands suck. Home stands suck. Public address system is terrible. No real bathrooms unless you walk the 1/4 mile across the parking lot and go to the gym. Otherwise you stand in line for a hot, smelly portable. They have the space and potential do build something great like the other schools but no one is coming up with the money. The city of Danville doesn't support the events and half the student population doesn't support either. I have never seen more than 3 or 4 staff and professors at a game. No lights for possible night or late games, practice field is in a swamp almost. When we first started attending games there was only us and 2 other familes that tail gated. That finally caught on a little but not like the other schools. At least they have great coaches who care and players who want to play regardless of the surroundings. I better get off my box or someone is going to blast me.......

Out of conference teams we have played all have great facilities,
Mt Union, Guilford, W&L, Wesley, and Bridgewater.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 29, 2009, 12:56:23 AM
Know I know when to pack shi$ paper in my rucksack. Hoaah. Good synopsis of intel. Porta pots for players. OMG

Anyway boys we had a foot a snow Thursday night (all in one night) and I thought of Papi rescuing morons who are told to leave the water because a storm "a-comeing"....well we got them on the roads here in CO. Picking the detrius of their foolishness the next day.......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 30, 2009, 12:56:41 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4025398

Lou Saban profile.  I remember playing the last team he coached.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 30, 2009, 04:34:37 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on March 30, 2009, 12:56:41 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4025398

Lou Saban profile.  I remember playing the last team he coached.

If I remember correctly Lou really had an bad showing at Chowan. Didn't half the team quit his first year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 30, 2009, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on March 30, 2009, 04:34:37 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on March 30, 2009, 12:56:41 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4025398

Lou Saban profile.  I remember playing the last team he coached.

If I remember correctly Lou really had an bad showing at Chowan. Didn't half the team quit his first year?
I can't tell you how many guys left the team, but the 2002 Chowan Braves were 0-10.  In fact, despite his resume, Saban lost more than he won pretty much everywhere he coached ... except maybe Alfred where he left the program before his team every played a game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 31, 2009, 10:48:12 PM
now be nice with "Sweet Lou" ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 31, 2009, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on March 31, 2009, 10:48:12 PM
now be nice with "Sweet Lou" ;)

NFL network had a program on Lou today and they showed Chowan /Averett hi-lights from 2001 ... A lot of film from Chowan practices..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on April 01, 2009, 10:32:40 AM
Quote from: narch on March 21, 2009, 10:56:45 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 20, 2009, 09:37:06 PM
What's rhum?   :D :D :D
the high quality stuff...

Rhum is definitely the HIGH quality stuff that you generally only get down in the islands.  ABN when we pull into port down there and it rhum gets going, we're the ones who need rescuing  ;D

It's been so long since played I don't remember one field from another.  Ferrum had a pretty nice field and the back drop of the hill rising up out of one of the endzones is pretty cool in the fall.  Ferrum was the only place where I ever got a beer bottle thrown at me though! (it was shame it was empty)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 01, 2009, 04:30:58 PM
I thinkit was a rhum bottle!  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 01, 2009, 05:40:31 PM
that's how I rhum after a few!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 03, 2009, 06:30:18 PM
rhumblin' bumblin' stumblin....He....could....go.....all....the....way!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on April 03, 2009, 08:11:24 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on April 03, 2009, 06:30:18 PM
rhumblin' bumblin' stumblin....He....could....go.....all....the....way!!!


I miss Keith Jackson and Lindsey Nelson doing college football...

WHOA NELLIE!!!!! :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 03, 2009, 10:00:48 PM
I'm so old I miss Keith Jackson doing Monday Night Football!!!!!!
Title: NFL scouts looking at Tunde Ogun
Post by: bask1804 on April 11, 2009, 03:21:54 PM
NFL scouts are coming to CNU to lok at South Region POY Tunde Ogun.  His 6"0-228 lb frame should impress the scouts  as they take him thru combine drills.
Title: Re: NFL scouts looking at Tunde Ogun
Post by: Gray Fox on April 11, 2009, 03:31:25 PM
Quote from: bask1804 on April 11, 2009, 03:21:54 PM
NFL scouts are coming to CNU to lok at South Region POY Tunde Ogun.  His 6"0-228 lb frame should impress the scouts  as they take him thru combine drills.

bask1804,

I did not mean to chase you away.  Come back, please. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 14, 2009, 01:14:01 PM
Any Spring Ball updates.  Is that now?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 14, 2009, 05:18:20 PM
some CNU news.....

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_dee_0412apr12,0,4605818.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_dee_0412apr12,0,4605818.story)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 14, 2009, 10:02:38 PM
You have to swear a little bit when you coach (or at least on the defensive side of the ball) but you really don't want to read about it in the news.

I have no problem with it but Im sure the administration at cnu wasnt happy to read that one.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 15, 2009, 08:30:13 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 14, 2009, 10:02:38 PM
You have to swear a little bit when you coach (or at least on the defensive side of the ball) but you really don't want to read about it in the news.

I have no problem with it but Im sure the administration at cnu wasnt happy to read that one.

I'm sure they weren't! There was another story in the local paper with quotes from the guy. Embarrasing.....too much "stuff"

I'll find it and post it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 15, 2009, 08:32:19 PM
as promised.....for your entertainment.....and stuff

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_recruitcolumn_0412apr12,0,4319882.column (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_recruitcolumn_0412apr12,0,4319882.column)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: @d3jason on April 17, 2009, 08:57:26 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on April 15, 2009, 08:32:19 PM
as promised.....for your entertainment.....and stuff

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_recruitcolumn_0412apr12,0,4319882.column (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_recruitcolumn_0412apr12,0,4319882.column)

As a Mansfield alum (and native,) good luck to Coach Dee and Coach Kelchner, except when they open up with  Wesley, coached  another Mansfield alum Mike Drass, on September 5.

Coach K's father was the president of Mansfield when I attended (late 80's)and we all loved him. He had also served as the school's head coach in the 60's for three years. Coach Matt also started his coaching acreer at Mansfield in 1982 when Wesley coach Mike Drass was a senior All-PSAC offensive lineman.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on April 18, 2009, 03:40:23 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 14, 2009, 10:02:38 PM
You have to swear a little bit when you coach (or at least on the defensive side of the ball) but you really don't want to read about it in the news.

I have no problem with it but Im sure the administration at cnu wasnt happy to read that one.

Bad language on the football field, I have never heard of such a thing!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 19, 2009, 10:29:56 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on April 19, 2009, 10:00:59 PM
This 2009 team will be tuffer and meaner because of him.
Will they also be "ruffer"? 

When the going gets "tuff", the "tough" get a dictionary.  :)




Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 20, 2009, 11:54:29 AM
tuffer, ruffer. 

Looks like something I would write.  I saw Greensboro College cut 8 employees and gave the staff a 20 percent decrease.  Tuff times for the small colleges in nc.   I wonder how many players will choose to go to cc for a year to save some money.  I doubt it will effect most kids who want to play college ball.  Most of them will want to play so bad that they wont care about the debt they are getting into to.  Has the economy effected recruiting this yr?  I know it prob hasn't effected cnu because the state tuition there is so low. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 20, 2009, 02:36:15 PM
as promised.....for your entertainment.....and stuff

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_recruitcolumn_0412apr12,0,4319882.column

Well he seems sincere.... ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 20, 2009, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on April 20, 2009, 04:27:52 PM
Hasanova, lets cut out the jokes and talk some football.  Your team is just like you, full of jokes.
You know, it's possible to be a good football player and a good writer ... they're not mutually exclusive.   You gave a pretty quick assessment of me and my school ... but I don't know who your team is.  For now, I'll operate under the impression they're a good team and you're a good guy.

It's the off-season!  I hope everyone can lighten up!  :)

PS  It's "let's".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 21, 2009, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 20, 2009, 11:54:29 AM
tuffer, ruffer. 

Looks like something I would write.  I saw Greensboro College cut 8 employees and gave the staff a 20 percent decrease.  Tuff times for the small colleges in nc.   I wonder how many players will choose to go to cc for a year to save some money.  I doubt it will effect most kids who want to play college ball.  Most of them will want to play so bad that they wont care about the debt they are getting into to.  Has the economy effected recruiting this yr?  I know it prob hasn't effected cnu because the state tuition there is so low. 

CNU raised tuition 3.9%. It is now the 4th most expensive public school in Va. Behind UVA, Tech, William and Mary and another school I forgot (JMU maybe?). Cost is about $18k. - just some facts to shed some lite (that's for you Hasa!!)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 21, 2009, 04:56:51 PM
Somone should do the cost of each school and put the football record next to the price tag to see which school gives the players the most for its buck.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 21, 2009, 07:09:58 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on April 21, 2009, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 20, 2009, 11:54:29 AM
tuffer, ruffer. 

Looks like something I would write.  I saw Greensboro College cut 8 employees and gave the staff a 20 percent decrease.  Tuff times for the small colleges in nc.   I wonder how many players will choose to go to cc for a year to save some money.  I doubt it will effect most kids who want to play college ball.  Most of them will want to play so bad that they wont care about the debt they are getting into to.  Has the economy effected recruiting this yr?  I know it prob hasn't effected cnu because the state tuition there is so low. 

CNU raised tuition 3.9%. It is now the 4th most expensive public school in Va. Behind UVA, Tech, William and Mary and another school I forgot (JMU maybe?). Cost is about $18k. - just some facts to shed some lite (that's for you Hasa!!)
You got that "rite"!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 23, 2009, 11:06:28 AM
Does anyone know how you can find out how much each school in the usa south cost?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 23, 2009, 12:48:07 PM
I think trying to compare published rates is moot. I've just gone through the college application process with my daughter. Here's what I found  - and she is not going to participate in college sports although she did in high school.

She was accepted at 3 public schools - 1 in NC and 2 in Va. For these schools we were offered this in financial aid -

2 Va Schools - $5,500 unsibsidized Stafford loans
1 NC school - $26,000 unsibsidized Stafford Loans

She received the following from a Va private school in which she did not apply and did not even visit their website - $9,000 scholarship and a $3,000 Grant - plus I imagine she would have gotten the $5,500 unsibsidized Stafford as well.

My point being - if she was a d3 caliber athlete - what do you think would have happened?  Mostly likely the same result from the public schools and higher aid from the private school. I even believe had we contacted the one private school and expressed an interest, the scholarship and/or grant offer would have increased. So I imagine athletes get quite a bit of help at private schools.

She also revieved phone calls from other schools - but when we saw Ferrum on the caller ID, we kept watching TV!!   ;D  - that was for Mr. Tipps!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 23, 2009, 04:31:16 PM
Still I think it would be interesting.  As far as Greensboro College goes.  I got all the way to my junior year and because of a mistake on my fafsa (my mother accidently put in the wrong school code) I lost an 8000 dollar scholarship.  that was a very tough decision to stay but I did.  I even had this one old guy barry somebody at the school tell me to take a bus home if i didnt like it.  I think he got fired a few years later.  Anyway, I wouldnt say that athletes get that much special attention at private schools or maybe i just wasnt a good enough athlete.

Wonder what the fall will be like for the pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BTEXPRESS on April 23, 2009, 05:31:12 PM
It depends on the schools. I went through this last year with my son who was recruited by 6 or 7 different D III schools for Football. One of the schools who is always in the top 20 rankings was very involved in the financial aid piece. The Head Coach flat out said they would match any financial aid any other school would give. Another school's Head Coach said the football staff has NO CONTACT or say with the financial aid part of the admission process. In the end my son was offered a merit scholarship at each of the schools ranging from $12,000 to $18,000. However, I think he would have received those awards whether he played football or not. I really don't think it mattered that he was an athlete as far as $$$$. Where I do think it could help as far as D III schools ,is if he was border line in getting accepted. The coaches might have a say with the admissions people. But as far as getting more financial aid or academic money I really don't think it helps being an athlete. Just my opinion from my experence with the whole process.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 23, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
I am pretty sure when Greensboro College started fb they gave some really really good packages.  Like where a few gifted kids paid very little but I think as time has passed that has pretty much gone away.  FB brings students and money into GC and I dont think they are in a good situation to give free rides to anybody right now.  I really dont have a clue how things are going now so it is all speculation on my part.  Id like to see them give some really good packages to some really good players though.  that would be awesome.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 23, 2009, 11:07:40 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on April 23, 2009, 12:48:07 PM
Mostly likely the same result from the public schools and higher aid from the private school.

I doubt it would've been more than 4% higher, considering they have to stay within that margin to avoid violating D-III rules.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 24, 2009, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 23, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
I am pretty sure when Greensboro College started fb they gave some really really good packages.  Like where a few gifted kids paid very little but I think as time has passed that has pretty much gone away.  FB brings students and money into GC and I dont think they are in a good situation to give free rides to anybody right now.  I really dont have a clue how things are going now so it is all speculation on my part.  Id like to see them give some really good packages to some really good players though.  that would be awesome.
There's an article on the front page of today's Greensboro News & Record about GCP's finances ... not good ... 20 percent salary cuts and layoffs ... including faculty.  French has been reduced to a minor from a major, as well as lots of public outcry about the President's salary, etc.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 24, 2009, 01:20:19 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 24, 2009, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 23, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
I am pretty sure when Greensboro College started fb they gave some really really good packages.  Like where a few gifted kids paid very little but I think as time has passed that has pretty much gone away.  FB brings students and money into GC and I dont think they are in a good situation to give free rides to anybody right now.  I really dont have a clue how things are going now so it is all speculation on my part.  Id like to see them give some really good packages to some really good players though.  that would be awesome.
There's an article on the front page of today's Greensboro News & Record about GCP's finances ... not good ... 20 percent salary cuts and layoffs ... including faculty.  French has been reduced to a minor from a major, as well as lots of public outcry about the President's salary, etc.
Greensboro College (http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/04/23/article/greensboro_college_president_to_meet_with_students_on_layoffs_budget_cuts)

I think that the author did not comprehend the endowment issue.  I think that the endowment is greater than single digit millions of dollars.  It looks like the return on investments were down 40% or $1M.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 24, 2009, 10:05:27 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 24, 2009, 01:20:19 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 24, 2009, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 23, 2009, 10:17:24 PM
I am pretty sure when Greensboro College started fb they gave some really really good packages.  Like where a few gifted kids paid very little but I think as time has passed that has pretty much gone away.  FB brings students and money into GC and I dont think they are in a good situation to give free rides to anybody right now.  I really dont have a clue how things are going now so it is all speculation on my part.  Id like to see them give some really good packages to some really good players though.  that would be awesome.
There's an article on the front page of today's Greensboro News & Record about GCP's finances ... not good ... 20 percent salary cuts and layoffs ... including faculty.  French has been reduced to a minor from a major, as well as lots of public outcry about the President's salary, etc.
Greensboro College (http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/04/23/article/greensboro_college_president_to_meet_with_students_on_layoffs_budget_cuts)

I think that the author did not comprehend the endowment issue.  I think that the endowment is greater than single digit millions of dollars.  It looks like the return on investments were down 40% or $1M.
Yes, I agree.  I've heard numbers before for Greensboro's endowment and it's certainly higher than $10M, maybe even as much as $30M ... and I say that not knowing what they've lost in investments.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on April 24, 2009, 10:42:27 PM
Maryville is $37,000 a year.  About $27K in tuition and $10K in room and board... 

I hear practices are going well.  About 70 out for spring ball.  Big losses on the offensive and defensive lines from last season.

I heard Shenandoah is thinking about leaving the USA-South.  Any truth to that rumor.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 24, 2009, 10:58:28 PM
They've been trying to get into the ODAC for some time, yes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 26, 2009, 08:17:39 PM
D3 got blanked in the draft but somebody (odds are) will get the free agent route. I would venture a DB given the heavy numbers picked this draft. Probably a head banger.....

Wake's defense seems to have been picked up.......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 27, 2009, 04:13:19 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on April 24, 2009, 10:58:28 PM
They've been trying to get into the ODAC for some time, yes.

I've heard they are trying some other options othe than the ODAC since the ODAC keeps saying "no". But I've only "heard" things and don't know anything for sure.

I've also heard rumours that pro scouts are looking at Tunde-Ogun.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on April 27, 2009, 05:00:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on April 27, 2009, 04:13:19 PM
I've also heard rumours that pro scouts are looking at Tunde-Ogun.

I'm sure our resident Tunde expert is still floating around on the board and can probably fill in some blanks if he so wishes, but from what I was told, Tunde did well on his Pro Day last week. He was told he needed to slim down a bit (shed about 15 pounds), but it sounds like he had some wheels in the rain (4.7 for his 40).

The scouts are planning to check back in during the fall.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 27, 2009, 06:56:42 PM
http://www.godanriver.com/gdr/sports/high_school/article/teague_installing_rams_championship_offense_at_gc/10373/

gc spring update. probally all you'll hear about gc's spring ball
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on April 27, 2009, 09:32:10 PM
Just wanted to throw a little kudos at Gboro for their upcoming schedule. Really moving in the right direction, they are.

I know they've had a couple of years where they scheduled some non-D3 schools (SoVa and UNC-P), and teams in the past like Gallaudet haven't exactly challenged the Pride. But the 2009 lineup of Gilford, E&H and W&L is a good one and should improve Greensboro's longer-term performance as squad.

Those ODAC teams are good and challenging for the Pride, but they're not so good as to be unbeatable -- as evidenced even by GC's win over E&H last season.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 28, 2009, 02:08:12 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 23, 2009, 11:06:28 AM
Does anyone know how you can find out how much each school in the usa south cost?

During the past 4 years Averett's cost averaged between $24,000 and $26,000 depending on major, books, housing, food plan, etc..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 28, 2009, 02:37:31 PM
Greensboro College 30,700   2-8
                                Next years cost anticipated to be 32,200

Maryville  37,000  5-5

Averett  32,000   4-5   

Ferrum 31,000   7-3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on April 28, 2009, 02:51:12 PM
Averett's Web site says tuition and room/board total $27,690 -- but that is probably based on dorm living only, and it doesn't include books and other expenses.

Another site, CollegeData.com (https://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg03_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=492) pegs the whole shebang at just over $31,300.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 28, 2009, 02:51:39 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 28, 2009, 02:37:31 PM
Greensboro College 30,700   2-8
                                Next years cost anticipated to be 32,200

Maryville  37,000  5-5

Averett  26,000   4-5    (sounds low to me not sure if this is correct)

Averett's may be going up for 2009-2010 term; don't know. What I do know is I paid between $24,000 and $26,000 @ year for the past 4 years and come this Saturday (graduation day) it is over. As soon as I see that piece of paper go in his hands you will be able to hear me all the way to Florida and back. Then my friend Mr. Turkey (Wild) 101, and I will begin the celebration.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 28, 2009, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on April 28, 2009, 02:51:12 PM
Averett's Web site says tuition and room/board total $27,690 -- but that is probably based on dorm living only, and it doesn't include books and other expenses.

Another site, CollegeData.com (https://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg03_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=492) pegs the whole shebang at just over $31,300.

Dang, sounds like I had an angel with me. (Or someone or thing that couldn't add right). Or it could have been Mr. Turkey had me blind folded and I didn't look all the way down the sheet. Makes no difference now, it's done unless number two son decides not to take exams this week. Then it will require my foot being surgically removed from his buttocks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 28, 2009, 03:02:23 PM
Different subject for everyone......

I am noticing that everyones schedule seems to be shaken up from previous years. For example Averett for the past 3 years has played Maryville the last game. Now Maryville and Averett is scheduled in the middle of the season.

Is there any rhyme or reason for this. Appears everyone still plays their out of conference schedule the first 3 games so that isn't the reason. I liked going to Shennadoah in November and taking the chance on getting some snow.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on April 28, 2009, 04:02:01 PM
I am not sure why the schedule was changed....Its all the same in the long run...you have to win to get in...


On a side note, Ferrum is @ $31,000.00 a year. Options are out there for financial assistance, but it was @ 4K when I was there. Glad I am not starting now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 28, 2009, 11:56:31 PM
As I predicted........... well if I can pat myslf on the back a DB was signed thank you very much Hasanova. Come on damn it I want some attention. LOL.  ;D

It flippen snowed 5 inches Friday morning.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 29, 2009, 01:12:31 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 28, 2009, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on April 28, 2009, 02:51:12 PM
Averett's Web site says tuition and room/board total $27,690 -- but that is probably based on dorm living only, and it doesn't include books and other expenses.

Another site, CollegeData.com (https://www.collegedata.com/cs/data/college/college_pg03_tmpl.jhtml?schoolId=492) pegs the whole shebang at just over $31,300.

Dang, sounds like I had an angel with me. (Or someone or thing that couldn't add right). Or it could have been Mr. Turkey had me blind folded and I didn't look all the way down the sheet. Makes no difference now, it's done unless number two son decides not to take exams this week. Then it will require my foot being surgically removed from his buttocks.

HAha - maybe on graduation saturday there will be two pieces of paper...your son's degree and your FINAL invoice they forgot to tell you about!!!

;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 29, 2009, 08:18:19 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on April 28, 2009, 11:56:31 PM
As I predicted........... well if I can pat myslf on the back a DB was signed thank you very much Hasanova. Come on damn it I want some attention. LOL.  ;D

It flippen snowed 5 inches Friday morning.....
Hey, I didn't say there wouldn't be  DB!  :)  Nice call.

My youngest son's in Denver ... I called him when there was the big snow a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 29, 2009, 08:52:05 PM
I saw that last years pride o cord brother became the head coach of a school in co.  All I saw on the website was the mountains and the jersey with rifle across it.  great hs mascot.  rifle.

Anybody from methodist, nc wes, cnu, su have the price and record to finish my project here.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 30, 2009, 08:05:44 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 29, 2009, 08:52:05 PM
I saw that last years pride o cord brother became the head coach of a school in co.  All I saw on the website was the mountains and the jersey with rifle across it.  great hs mascot.  rifle.

Anybody from methodist, nc wes, cnu, su have the price and record to finish my project here.
You were right about Averett being around $32,000. I went back and checked last night and to my suprise it was just over $32,000. My son was able to get some scholarships that pulled it back down and I didn't notice. I was just looking at the number I had to write the check for. Sorry for the incorrect information.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 30, 2009, 08:50:06 AM
Greensboro College 30,700   2-8
                                Next years cost anticipated to be 32,200

Maryville  37,000  5-5

Averett  32,000   5-5   

Ferrum 31,000   7-3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 30, 2009, 08:56:24 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 30, 2009, 08:50:06 AM

Greensboro College 30,700   2-8
                                Next years cost anticipated to be 32,200

Maryville  37,000  5-5

Averett  32,000   4-5   

Ferrum 31,000   7-3

Mosh,

Averett finished 5-5 last year. (We need all the help we can get)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on May 02, 2009, 08:08:22 PM
Collegedata.com is a great source for college information.  Here is the info for conference schools.  Cost of attendance, '08 qualification of enrolled freshmen & the school's freshment retention rate.


School                Total Cost          '08 Fr GPA     '08 Fr ACT         Fr Retention Rate

Averett                $31,340                   2.93             17                      56%
CNU                     $20,162 in-state       3.50             24                      82%
                          $27,544 out-state
Ferrum                 $32,375                   2.73             18                      60%
Greensboro           $32,668                   2.98             20                      53%
Methodist             $32,690                   3.25             21                      67%
NC Wesleyan         $31,370                   2.96             18                      47%
Shenandoah          $34,790                   3.22             20                      65%
Maryville               $37,837                   3.51             24                      72%

Hope I got all the figures right.....

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on May 03, 2009, 10:35:04 AM
Greensboro 32,000     2-8
                               
Maryville     37,000     5-5

Averett      32,000      5-5   

Ferrum      31,000      7-3

CNU          20,000       8-2
                28,000

Methodist  32,000       2-8

NC Wes    31,000        6-4

Shen        35,000        3-6


fighting scot, i think the only category that is going to be correct in your last post is the amount owed.  Im willing to be the fb teams gpa, act, and retention rate is going to be much different than the schools overall grades.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on May 03, 2009, 02:59:25 PM
I agree.  The freshmen stats are the schools overall freshman class not just football.  Could be higher or lower than what is reported.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2009, 12:14:44 AM
Friends, in front of what building is the Handley Bowl in Winchester VA?  Is that a high school?

http://www.winchesterstar.com/dreamweaver_files/Special_Pages/Multimedia/Handley/Renovation.html

What about the renovation?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wasper68 on May 10, 2009, 08:42:48 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 10, 2009, 12:14:44 AM
Friends, in front of what building is the Handley Bowl in Winchester VA?  Is that a high school?

http://www.winchesterstar.com/dreamweaver_files/Special_Pages/Multimedia/Handley/Renovation.html

What about the renovation?

Yes it is John Handley High School.  I don't know about the renovation though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on May 11, 2009, 01:00:05 PM
What does this field mean for the USAC?  Is a game being played there or something?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 11, 2009, 05:21:48 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on May 11, 2009, 01:00:05 PM
What does this field mean for the USAC?  Is a game being played there or something?
Probably nothing...

I was scannning the Winchester News and saw the pictures of the renovation.

I was amazed at the size of the building with the stairs leading down to the field...kinda like something out of Ben Hur or Quo Vadis.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on May 11, 2009, 08:11:26 PM
They must take football pretty serious at that school.  Looks like a great atmosphere for sure.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 16, 2009, 03:55:02 PM
Ok CNU just ended their baseball season.

How many days until kickoff?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on May 17, 2009, 04:50:58 PM
111 days before opening kickoff.  We need to wakeup and start talking football....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on May 25, 2009, 09:50:00 AM
Just want to say Thank You to all that have served or to all that are currently serving this great country. You are appreciated.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on May 28, 2009, 09:48:47 PM
CONFERENCE MERGER.....  (Sort of)

Read this article from the Maryville Times...


www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090528/SPORTS/305289987



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 28, 2009, 09:58:47 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on May 28, 2009, 09:48:47 PM
CONFERENCE MERGER.....  (Sort of)

Read this article from the Maryville Times...


www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090528/SPORTS/305289987


Yes!  This is a real win for both conferences.  This even gives some latitude to the "new USAC/GSAC" in case CNU gets an invite from the Capital AC.

I did not see a way to get to Mr James, but please let him know that it takes 7 teams to get the AQ!

Thanks for posting this.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on May 28, 2009, 10:50:28 PM
Ralph,

Who is in the Capitol AC???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 28, 2009, 10:56:21 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on May 28, 2009, 10:50:28 PM
Ralph,

Who is in the Capitol AC???

I believe that the affiliation/merger gives the USA South some leeway in the case that CNU gets invited to the Capital AC.

I believe that the Capital AC wants football.  They can get the AQ this way.

Salisbury
Wesley
Gallaudet (currently in the North Atlantic Conference in football)
Stevenson (currently looking at adding football)

That gives you 4 core members necessary for a conference to sponsor a sport.

Shenandoah is up for grabs.  The ODAC has said that they do not want them, and Shenandoah has said it wants out of the USA South.

Frostburg State (MD) is the only football-playing member of the non-football Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference.

CNU is the only state school in the USA South.  (The Capital AC has these public schools:  Salisbury, Galluadet, St Mary's MD, Mary Washington.)  CNU is closer to almost everyone else in the Capital AC than its closest foe in the USA South.

If there were the chance to have football in the Capital AC, then those other 3 schools might join the Capital AC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 28, 2009, 11:03:12 PM
Ralph

I had heard whispers the Frostburg St was applying for full membership for the CAC but that was last fall.
I also thought that Stevenson was to have a meeting concerning football in May which only leaves them tomorrow unless they just haven't made a release available yet!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 28, 2009, 11:31:13 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 28, 2009, 11:03:12 PM
Ralph

I had heard whispers the Frostburg St was applying for full membership for the CAC but that was last fall.
I also thought that Stevenson was to have a meeting concerning football in May which only leaves them tomorrow unless they just haven't made a release available yet!
IMHO, CNU stays put until there is a Pool A conference for football.

They must be weighing travel expense for all programs vs football Pool A access.

(IMHO, If Shenandoah doesn't go to the Capital but instead goes to the ODAC, where they have applied to join on a few occasions, then CNU stays in USA South.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on May 29, 2009, 08:59:02 AM
I like what I'm hearing here. Maybe our football team has finally found a home.


Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on May 29, 2009, 06:09:41 PM
more private schools.  less state schools.  sounds good to me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: @d3jason on May 29, 2009, 11:13:59 PM
CNU ranked number 14 in Sporting News Preseason magazine. Ogun is on All-American team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 01, 2009, 02:33:23 PM
hmm...Interested posts.

I thought SU going to the ODAC was a done deal.

CNU going to Capital AC - some of those schools don't play football (Mary Washington).

I also heard that the USA South re-alignment plan as described in the below link was rejected by the College Presidents.....not 100% sure about that.

The only thing I can almost gaurantee is that CNU makes no moves unless they end up in a conference with an AQ from day one.

Anyone else have more info?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 01, 2009, 02:52:19 PM
Pool B is a good place to be in football right now if you're any good.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on June 01, 2009, 04:36:37 PM
I've always had my issues with CNU being in the conference but I would not want to see them leave.  They have raised the level of competition of football in this conference since joining and I wouldn't want them to move to a new conference just because they have been dominant.  It was almost take away from any conference championship won after they left, because to be the best you have to beat the best.

Ok, there all you CNU fans...I gave you a compliment, but don't expect to many more because I still hate you  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on June 01, 2009, 09:01:29 PM
Just an idle thought, but if this thing does come back and pass ( I think they took it home to the coaches before voting) then I'm loving to see how they work this out for football.
Even though its proposed for 2010-11
The sked for this fall would have Maryville with 9 conference games.
Without MC LaGrange and Huntingdon have to find a new opponent to fill a date, if MC plays them and drops two games in-conference then are we going to be sitting here trying to re-figure schedule strength and who played who when it comes time to break a tie. (Come on you know this conference producing an outright champ is just a fluke at this point)

Just a ponder.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 02, 2009, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 01, 2009, 02:52:19 PM
Pool B is a good place to be in football right now if you're any good.

Good point. However, I think CNU would want a conference with an AQ before moving. Maybe one year without it might work, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 02, 2009, 04:46:08 PM
I think it would be a good change and more competive year in and year out to see who will win the usac.  Cnu has obvious advantages that give them the upper hand in every conf game they play.

At the same time they do force teams in the conf to play better football and that only matters if you get to use it in the tourney.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on June 02, 2009, 07:17:36 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 01, 2009, 02:33:23 PM

I thought SU going to the ODAC was a done deal.


I wish that it was a done deal, we could use another football member. Unfortunately the non-football schools aren't interested in adding new members at this time because of scheduling issues in the other sports, and they're in the majority. I can actually see their point to some extent because SU would make 14 full members, but I'd still like to see another football team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 09, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
Frostburg State has accepted an invitation to join the Capital AC in July 2010.

http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2009/06/08/frostburg-takes-cacs-offer.html

That is three football schools in the CAC, and we are awaiting the announcement of the highly anticipated initiation of football at Stevenson.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 22, 2009, 12:53:15 PM
Everybody already knows he is a beast. 

I dont think anyone will be sleeping on him.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on June 22, 2009, 08:01:06 PM
Agreed, no one is going to be surprised by Ogun this year.

Got any details on any other aspect of the team? Can you fill in any of the question marks on defense or is Long going to be reprising his role at QB or back at his original position? Unless there is some surprise in the CNU ranks, I could see the AQ slipping away from them this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on June 23, 2009, 09:03:09 AM
I dont know anything about wesley this year but i bet they win the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 23, 2009, 05:06:38 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on June 22, 2009, 08:01:06 PM
Agreed, no one is going to be surprised by Ogun this year.

Got any details on any other aspect of the team? Can you fill in any of the question marks on defense or is Long going to be reprising his role at QB or back at his original position? Unless there is some surprise in the CNU ranks, I could see the AQ slipping away from them this year.

Expecting 90 or so returning players. Never know until August. Over 40 have significant playing time. Not sure of any new potential recruits, but they always have some nice surprises. Long should be the QB, but Gaines now has a year under his belt. Other than that I don't know a thing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on June 29, 2009, 01:24:10 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on June 22, 2009, 08:01:06 PM
Agreed, no one is going to be surprised by Ogun this year.

Got any details on any other aspect of the team? Can you fill in any of the question marks on defense or is Long going to be reprising his role at QB or back at his original position? Unless there is some surprise in the CNU ranks, I could see the AQ slipping away from them this year.

I have to believe that Ferrum could be well positioned to take the AQ spot, but Ogun will need to be dealt with...by that I mean keeping him under 175 yards. also, those pesky Battling Bishops will contend.

The Panthers will rank somewhere in the middle as far as damage done by graduation, but overall should be solid.  They have a new transfer running back named Justin Donnelly from Division II Shepherd University, but I know nothing about him. I was told by an anonymous post on my blog that he is impressive, but that's all I know. Wish we could get a defensive secondary transfer, or a pass rusher extraordinaire.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 29, 2009, 02:03:42 PM
The dreaded Panthers and their Hank Norton mutants are always solid
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 29, 2009, 08:55:37 PM
From the front page...

http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/06/27/article/greensboro_college_fending_off_creditors

This is very sobering news.

The affiliation of the GSAC-Men may be what saves the USA South.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 02, 2009, 10:29:09 PM
Chowan (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+ii/chowan+first+nonhbcu+to+join+the+ciaa++_07-02-09+ncaa+news) joins the CIAA.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on July 03, 2009, 08:40:14 AM
Happy 4th of July to everyone!!!

If you see a veteran this weekend tell them thanks!!!

ABNRGR~~~Thanks to you and all your brothers for all you do!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 03, 2009, 03:37:51 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 29, 2009, 08:55:37 PM
From the front page...

http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/06/27/article/greensboro_college_fending_off_creditors

This is very sobering news.

The affiliation of the GSAC-Men may be what saves the USA South.
Ralph's attachment from the Greensboro News & Record cited this story from The Chronicle of Higher Education:

http://chronicle.com/free/v55/i40/40a00102.htm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on July 05, 2009, 12:05:58 AM
Thank You to all who have served or are currently serving to protect the freedoms that we all enjoy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 06, 2009, 11:49:35 PM
Good hearing from you Highlander and hope you are ready for the Fighting Scots this season.  Graduating 24 seniors from '08 will make '09 an interesting season.  However the offense is returning Hightower at RB and Idlette at WR who are All-Conference caliber players.  Hunt and Conner come back at QB.  USA-South Defensive POY Kyle Chewning comes back for his senior season.

Big losses on the offensive and defensive lines.

I'm checking on some info about Media Day that has really gotten the MC crowd pretty upset.  I'll report it when I get all the facts...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 07, 2009, 04:09:30 PM
CNU85,

Hope you are having a good summer. Was over by the campus this past weekend (first time since the game last fall) and see they still haven't finished the construction on Warwick. Are they trying to make that project last as long as the 64 project from Mercury to Jefferson. I need a front end alignment now.

What will you guys look like this year. I know you have the running back coming back, but how about the "D" and "O" line?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blitzer1 on July 08, 2009, 04:06:54 PM
Just graduated this year from Maryville and look forward to joining the weekly posts during the upcoming season.  Hope to meet Proudfightingscot and Highlander down the road.

I'll be on campus later this week so I'll find out about Media Day flap.  All I know is that the coaching staff was expecting Media Day to be at MC this year.

MC will be rebuilding this season with heavy losses due to graduation.  CNU will be strong again.  Ugun is the best RB I've lined up against in my 4 years at MC.  However, conference better watch out for Ferrum this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 08, 2009, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 02, 2009, 10:29:09 PM
Chowan (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+ii/chowan+first+nonhbcu+to+join+the+ciaa++_07-02-09+ncaa+news) joins the CIAA.

stupid move
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 08, 2009, 09:51:48 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on July 07, 2009, 04:09:30 PM
CNU85,

Hope you are having a good summer. Was over by the campus this past weekend (first time since the game last fall) and see they still haven't finished the construction on Warwick. Are they trying to make that project last as long as the 64 project from Mercury to Jefferson. I need a front end alignment now.

What will you guys look like this year. I know you have the running back coming back, but how about the "D" and "O" line?

Having a blast. Hope you are, too. I think you will see pretty much the same team this year, which is not bad since they went undefeated in the conference. I'm sure Kelchner will have a few surprises for us - he always seems to come up with something. Not possible to know who will not return, but last I heard there were approx 90 returning players with 40+ who played quite a bit last year. Ogun will be good, The D has always been strong, plus CNU has added Bill Dee as a coach on the defensive side of the ball. I watched his Phoebus Phantoms over the years and I can assure you of one thing...CNU's D will be more aggressive. He's coached some of the best defenses ANY high school ANYWHERE has ever seen. I think last year his defense alone at Phoebus outscored his opponents. Ever hear of those Adibi boys that went on to Va Tech? Phoebus products. I'm actually looking forward to it......you'll see guys flying to the ball like never before at CNU - and they've been pretty good at it already!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on July 09, 2009, 07:34:40 AM
 Is Shenandoah considering joining the ODAC for football only?
www.dnronline.com/sports_details.php?AID=39092&CHID=3&sub= (http://www.dnronline.com/sports_details.php?AID=39092&CHID=3&sub=)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on July 09, 2009, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: Jeremybozz on July 09, 2009, 07:34:40 AM
Is Shenandoah considering joining the ODAC for football only?
www.dnronline.com/sports_details.php?AID=39092&CHID=3&sub= (http://www.dnronline.com/sports_details.php?AID=39092&CHID=3&sub=)

So maybe they join the CAC as a full member?? Interestiing aye!!
Title: Greensboro College
Post by: hasanova on July 09, 2009, 09:30:08 PM
Related to our earlier posts on the financial situation at Greensboro, President Craven Williams has "retired": 

http://www.greensborocollege.edu/about/communications/news/news-detail.cfm?customel_datapageid_8379=22554
Title: Re: Greensboro College
Post by: BTEXPRESS on July 10, 2009, 10:50:19 AM
Quote from: hasanova on July 09, 2009, 09:30:08 PM
Related to our earlier posts on the financial situation at Greensboro, President Craven Williams has "retired": 

http://www.greensborocollege.edu/about/communications/news/news-detail.cfm?customel_datapageid_8379=22554
Interesting! Without knowing all the facts, but based on the circumstances, I guess that is a good move for the school. GC really needs someone who can raise alot of $$$$ in a timely fashion as their next President.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 10, 2009, 11:12:33 PM
[However, conference better watch out for Ferrum this season.
[/quote]

Well I am hopeful!

I am curious about the tie breaker scenario in the USA South...I assume head to head is the first step...after that, what is used?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 11, 2009, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: hasanova on July 09, 2009, 09:30:08 PM
Quote from: Allen C on July 10, 2009, 11:12:33 PMHowever, conference better watch out for Ferrum this season.

Well I am hopeful!

I am curious about the tie breaker scenario in the USA South...I assume head to head is the first step...after that, what is used?
It's head-to-head, then head-to head against the next team in the standings all the way through the line.  If they ultimately can't decide, I think the last team to go to the playoffs gets the nod.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 11, 2009, 09:51:32 PM
Quote from: hasanova on July 11, 2009, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: Allen C on July 10, 2009, 11:12:33 PM
[However, conference better watch out for Ferrum this season.

Well I am hopeful!

I am curious about the tie breaker scenario in the USA South...I assume head to head is the first step...after that, what is used?
It's head-to-head, then head-to head against the next team in the standings all the way through the line.  If they ultimately can't decide, I think the last team to go to the playoffs gets the nod.
[/quote]

IS this on the USA South Website somewhere? I cat find a reference for this...Does the overall record come into play? The last team that went to the playoffs may indeed be correct, but that team may not even figure into the tie, and that would seem unfair.  Anyway, just looking for the info. Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 11, 2009, 11:00:38 PM
Certainly in that case, it would be the team among those involved in the tie.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 12, 2009, 01:49:22 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 11, 2009, 11:00:38 PM
Certainly in that case, it would be the team among those involved in the tie.
Yes, that was my implied message.  If they can't break a tie, then the last team to go to the playoffs (from among those involved in the first place tie) will get the bid.  For example, look at RMC in the ODAC's 2008 4-way tie where everyone at the top was 4-2.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blitzer1 on July 13, 2009, 02:22:53 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on July 06, 2009, 11:49:35 PM
I'm checking on some info about Media Day that has really gotten the MC crowd pretty upset.

According to some of the players I talked with over the weekend at MC, the USA-South football coaches voted for MC to host the 2009 Media Day.  Media Day has been at a different conference school locations since Maryville joined the conference in 2005.  However, the conference's SID's and athletic directors voted not to have it at Maryville and have it at Averett again.

Pretty sorry group if this is the case......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2009, 05:34:58 PM
In this era of economic tightness, the Centennial Conference is dispensing with its in-person media day entirely. Having it at a more central location is better than not having one.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 13, 2009, 07:16:11 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2009, 05:34:58 PM
In this era of economic tightness, the Centennial Conference is dispensing with its in-person media day entirely. Having it at a more central location is better than not having one.

The coaches are the ones who voted to have them there.  They are the ones that make appearances.  Sending a coach and maybe an SID is a 1 car trip, not a bus full of players.  If it is in Averett or in Maryville the money on the media day is still being spent.  It comes down to the few SID's not wanting to make a trip.  Why even ask the coaches??  It is obvious the conference listens to the SID's over the head football coaches.  They don't understand that by having the media days at the different colleges it promotes the conference within the local communities.  If it is an economic issue hotel rates are down and gas is $2.30 right now, it was over $4.00 a year ago.  So schools can't afford to drive a few hours and pay for 1 hotel room?  The last 4 out of the last 5 media days have been held at Methodist, Christopher Newport, NC Westlyn and Shenandoah, which are the furthest from Maryville.  The one time it is Maryville's turn all of a sudden the SID's vote it down?  Why is that??  They can't bear to drive to east Tennessee one time in 8 years?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 13, 2009, 07:31:25 PM

I am curious about the tie breaker scenario in the USA South...I assume head to head is the first step...after that, what is used?
[/quote]It's head-to-head, then head-to head against the next team in the standings all the way through the line.  If they ultimately can't decide, I think the last team to go to the playoffs gets the nod.
[/quote]

I got the scoop from Mike Christie from the USA South Office- The playoff tie breaker rule is below. This is copied directly from Mike's email:

The football tiebreaking procedure is as follows:



                             a.  Head-to-head competition.

                             b.   Performance against higher-rated teams in Conference.

                             c.   Common opponent records.

                             d.   In the event of a three-way tie, the NCAA regional ranking following the final games will be used to break the tie between the three teams.  This will determine the Conference's automatic bid to the NCAA tournament.

                             e.   Coin toss.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2009, 11:22:19 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on July 13, 2009, 07:16:11 PMThey don't understand that by having the media days at the different colleges it promotes the conference within the local communities. 

Actually, I think an SID understands this piece better than anyone here, including coaches, athletic directors, you and me. Let's not go overboard -- clearly you don't like the decision, but even if it went down as you said, that doesn't mean it merits the exaggeration you're giving it here.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 13, 2009, 11:39:00 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 13, 2009, 11:22:19 PM
Actually, I think an SID understands this piece better than anyone here, including coaches, athletic directors, you and me. Let's not go overboard -- clearly you don't like the decision, but even if it went down as you said, that doesn't mean it merits the exaggeration you're giving it here.

Well those SID's all had their school's turn at it.  We didn't.  So maybe they do understand it for their communities.  If it were your school you were following, wouldn't you be thinking how that isn't right?  Or how the coaches voted to have your school host then to have it taken away?  Why even have the coaches vote?  Obviously it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 14, 2009, 12:06:06 AM
It's just not a good year to send EVERYONE eight hours when it can be held at a more central location. Gasoline isn't the only issue when athletic departments everywhere are being asked to cut costs and one of your schools is apparently so up to its eyeballs in problems that the power company is sending a shutoff notice.

Regardless of who made the decision, it is very defensible.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 14, 2009, 10:32:06 AM
Also, too, let's be honest -- it is the conference's media day, not the individual school's media day. If it's held in a place distant from USA South media outlets that might attend, what good is it? What if they held a media day and only Marcus Fitzsimmons attended? (I mean, we love Marcus but there are other people who usually attend.) It's not like there's a large surplus in many newspaper budgets these days, either.

Just some food for thought.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 14, 2009, 10:57:36 AM
It is the conference's media day that has its location rotated among the conference schools.  It also has been held at every school but Maryville.  Even in those places that is furthest for Maryville to travel such as Shenandoah and Christopher Newport.  I believe the media covered it in those places too.  We still had coverage when it was held there.  That is the issue here.  The right to have done here would have been let us host it this time and since all conference members have hosted after that say they are making one central location for the event going forward.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 14, 2009, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on July 14, 2009, 10:57:36 AM
It is the conference's media day that has its location rotated among the conference schools.  It also has been held at every school but Maryville. 


I actually don't believe this is true, either. Don't know where you're getting your information, but the conference has been in existence for football for eight years and I know of at least three years it was held off-campus. So that makes it mathematically impossible that it has been held at every conference school except Maryville.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 14, 2009, 12:36:32 PM
My mistake assuming it has been at all conference schools.  All I know it has been at different locations since Maryville joined the conference and the head coaches have a better understanding for doing the right thing for the conference.   Gas is around $2.30 right now compared to $4.00+ from a year ago and the college you mentioned that is in financial difficulties just saved over $400,000 because their president just resigned....  They can probably afford the trip now...

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on July 14, 2009, 01:38:25 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on July 14, 2009, 12:36:32 PM
My mistake assuming it has been at all conference schools.  All I know it has been at different locations since Maryville joined the conference and the head coaches have a better understanding for doing the right thing for the conference.   Gas is around $2.30 right now compared to $4.00+ from a year ago and the college you mentioned that is in financial difficulties just saved over $400,000 because their president just resigned....  They can probably afford the trip now...



$400,000 is a lot of money to you and me (and, I suspect, most of the rest of the contributors to these boards) but given that particular college's financial position it's a drop in the bucket. As far as media coverage at previous locations, Shenandoah is within the D.C. media market and an easy day trip from Richmond, and CNU is part of the Tidewater media market and also an easy drive from Richmond or even the N.C. schools and media. Maryville, on the other hand, is an overnight trip for all the other conference schools (except Ferrum) and the media that cover them. As Pat has pointed out, the current economy makes holding Media Day in eastern Tn. a tough sell.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 14, 2009, 02:14:43 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on July 14, 2009, 12:36:32 PM
My mistake assuming it has been at all conference schools.  All I know it has been at different locations since Maryville joined the conference and the head coaches have a better understanding for doing the right thing for the conference.   Gas is around $2.30 right now compared to $4.00+ from a year ago and the college you mentioned that is in financial difficulties just saved over $400,000 because their president just resigned....  They can probably afford the trip now...

How much of a media day will it be if the MDT is there and nobody else is? I don't know how many newspapers are going to send someone eight hours each way, incurring 16 hours of driving and an overnight hotel stay, for a Division III media day.

I also don't agree with your assertion that the head coaches have a better understanding which media outlets will send their reporters on a 16-hour drive for a media day. I suspect the SIDs actually know better since they deal with the newspapers all the time. Is the right thing for the conference holding a media day with one school's outlet represented or multiple outlets?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 14, 2009, 05:55:56 PM
media day is a useless piece of press.  everybody says something like this is going to be a great year, blah blah blah. 

my vote would be to give it to maryville every year just because the want it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 14, 2009, 11:48:56 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 14, 2009, 05:55:56 PM
media day is a useless piece of press.  everybody says something like this is going to be a great year, blah blah blah. 

As someone who has done the Kickoff capsules for several years now, I love having all the coaches together at once. Makes the one-on-one reporting all that much easier  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 15, 2009, 09:50:29 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 14, 2009, 05:55:56 PM
media day is a useless piece of press.  everybody says something like this is going to be a great year, blah blah blah. 
you've obviously never heard jim sypult at media day :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 16, 2009, 03:50:53 PM
good stuff

http://cnusports.com/news/2009/7/14/FB_0714095638.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2009/7/14/FB_0714095638.aspx)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 16, 2009, 05:15:09 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 16, 2009, 03:50:53 PM
good stuff

http://cnusports.com/news/2009/7/14/FB_0714095638.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2009/7/14/FB_0714095638.aspx)
Thanks for posting.  +1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blitzer1 on July 16, 2009, 11:12:23 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 14, 2009, 10:32:06 AM
Also, too, let's be honest -- it is the conference's media day, not the individual school's media day. If it's held in a place distant from USA South media outlets that might attend, what good is it? What if they held a media day and only Marcus Fitzsimmons attended? (I mean, we love Marcus but there are other people who usually attend.) It's not like there's a large surplus in many newspaper budgets these days, either.

From what I hear, Fitzsimmons has been the only consistant sports writer attending Media Day except for maybe the host school's newpaper. 

I guess Fitzsimmons is sitting this argument out by not posting his comments about Media Day.  He's been at the last 3 or 4 Media Days and he would probably give you the best view about whether or not Maryville is getting "dumped on" by the conference.  I believe he would agree with MC's point of view.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 17, 2009, 02:12:36 PM
Perhaps he considers it good from a professionalism point of view to stay out of the argument. It's fairly personal for PFS, clearly. Not much to gain in my view from continuing it either.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blitzer1 on July 17, 2009, 05:34:39 PM
I agree with you Pat.  You've had 7 posts on the subject and you need to move on.....  Good job PFS....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 17, 2009, 05:45:31 PM
Yes, that's true. And 24,000 not on the subject. So, what's your percentage? :)

Quote from: blitzer1 on July 17, 2009, 05:34:39 PM
Good job PFS....

No need to congratulate yourself. All of your posts come from the same IP addresses as PFS posts. If it were just one IP address I could write it off as them all coming from one Maryville campus proxy but they're both from two unrelated IPs, as if one were at work and one at home.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 17, 2009, 09:18:13 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 17, 2009, 05:45:31 PM

No need to congratulate yourself. All of your posts come from the same IP addresses as PFS posts. If it were just one IP address I could write it off as them all coming from one Maryville campus proxy but they're both from two unrelated IPs, as if one were at work and one at home.

Ummm... try again (not the same person), but i do like new posters getting involved in discussions.  But this is like beating a dead horse at this point...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 17, 2009, 09:39:56 PM
The connection is pretty clear. Same office IP, same house IP. There are many people who use the office IP, since it seems to be an on-campus proxy, but only two posters use the cable modem, one of whom just conveniently appeared in the past two weeks.

It seems like a fairly clear violation of the TOS. If you need to create another poster to back up your viewpoint then there's a problem.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 17, 2009, 09:50:33 PM
I don't know what to tell you then.  All I know is this is my only account I use.  You can believe what you want to.  Sorry I have seemed to strike a cord with you by disagreeing on this subject with you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 18, 2009, 01:16:05 AM
"Chord".  Fortunately, our language is less complicated than where media day's held.  :)

Title: Greensboro puts entire campus & majority of endowment as loan collateral
Post by: hasanova on July 18, 2009, 10:43:49 AM
More sobering news from Greensboro College, as the Board of Trustees puts the entire campus and the majority of its endowment as collateral to cover loans:

http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/07/17/article/greensboro_college_puts_up_campus_to_back_loan
Title: Re: Greensboro puts entire campus & majority of endowment as loan collateral
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 18, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
Quote from: hasanova on July 18, 2009, 10:43:49 AM
More sobering news from Greensboro College, as the Board of Trustees puts the entire campus and the majority of its endowment as collateral to cover loans:

http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/07/17/article/greensboro_college_puts_up_campus_to_back_loan

Capable leadership can save Greensboro.

Contingency plans for the USA South must include affiliation of the GSAC men into the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on July 18, 2009, 12:30:09 PM
Ralph

i asked some folks at Huntingdon  about the potential for the merger (who should really know- not at all like me)

i got an email back thursday that the merger of the 2 conferences was still very possible, and negotiations are ongoing

so .... it might happen, hopefully

keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 18, 2009, 01:39:42 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on July 18, 2009, 12:30:09 PM
Ralph

i asked some folks at Huntingdon  about the potential for the merger (who should really know- not at all like me)

i got an email back thursday that the merger of the 2 conferences was still very possible, and negotiations are ongoing

so .... it might happen, hopefully

keep the faith
Thanks for the update.  (Hope the hip is working better each day.)

I really hope that they preserve the GSAC Women as an intact and complete conference.  Doubling the AQ's for women in that part of the country means more chances to host a post-season game, rather than being shipped somewhere else!

Let the men affiliate.
Title: Re: Greensboro puts entire campus & majority of endowment as loan collateral
Post by: hasanova on July 18, 2009, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 18, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
Capable leadership can save Greensboro.

I agree, Ralph.  In addition to its current students, faculty and staff, Greensboro College is too important to the city, to the Methodist church and to its alumni.  I don't think they'll let it fail, especially after 171 years.   Colleges do go under from time to time, however.  If you've ever driven I-40 in western NC, you see the exit signs for Rutherford College, now just a community sans college.  Antioch in Ohio is restructuring and former Seattle Seahawks QB Dave Krieg played at the now defunct Milton College.

I think what's most distrubing about Greensboro, though, is the consistent sentiment from everyone that they didn't know it was this bad.  This speaks volumes about colleges allowing participatory decision-making and financial transparency.  I understand how the students, faculty and alumni didn't know, but how does this escape the Board of Trustees?
Title: Re: Greensboro puts entire campus & majority of endowment as loan collateral
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 18, 2009, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: hasanova on July 18, 2009, 01:58:50 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 18, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
Capable leadership can save Greensboro.

I agree, Ralph.  In addition to its current students, faculty and staff, Greensboro College is too important to the city, to the Methodist church and to its alumni.  I don't think they'll let it fail, especially after 171 years.   Colleges do go under from time to time, however.  If you've ever driven I-40 in western NC, you see the exit signs for Rutherford College, now just a community sans college.  Antioch in Ohio is restructuring and former Seattle Seahawks QB Dave Krieg played at the now defunct Milton College.

I think what's most distrubing about Greensboro, though, is the consistent sentiment from everyone that they didn't know it was this bad.  This speaks volumes about colleges allowing participatory decision-making and financial transparency.  I understand how the students, faculty and alumni didn't know, but how does this escape the Board of Trustees?

Apparently Williams did a very good job of hiding the problems and managed to stack the Board with sympathetic minds.
 
That question is being addressed by the new IRS Form 990, which will require the Board of Trustees to sign off on all activities of the college.  Some have likened it to a "Sarbanes-Oxley" for not-for-profits.
Title: Greensboro
Post by: abnrgr on July 18, 2009, 03:03:37 PM
Again another asute observation by Hasa and Ralph(as usual).

Hasanova; we have to ask the question "que bono" or who benefits (because of my spelling). Somebody is about to take a walk with a parachute meant for retirement. "board of trustees" Shiiiiiiiiiiii$.

The first thing to go will be sports then somebody will walk. When you find out where the trail leads to who will benefit with the fall of the school then you will know when and how long G-Boro has.

Perhaps they will save it but with the state of government (liken to Rome 3rd-4th century when the main effort was for the Emperor to survive not to keep the empire intact) I am more pessimistic these days....

On a lighter note GC-Q has a very nice field
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 18, 2009, 06:09:18 PM
abnrgr, thanks and good to hear from you!  From what I hear inside the Greensboro College community, Williams saw what was happening at Elon, High Point and Guilford and bit off more than he could chew in an effort to keep up with the Joneses.  He was overly optimistic about enrollment and the economy and, when they both went down at the same time, the house of cards fell apart.  

I think GCP will survive, albeit perhaps not in the same way it looks now.  I think they'll have to sell the property they bought for a sports complex, sell the YMCA property, sell the President's residence (anyone familiar with Greensboro's Irving Park neigborhood knows it's expensive real estate), reduce the number of sports teams they field and perhaps eliminate the 3 or 4 graduate programs they try to support.  To me, their core is not graduate school - it's liberal arts for undergrads.

PS  Armfield Stadium at GCQ is super.  I can't wait for the first home game on Sept. 19!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 18, 2009, 09:14:13 PM
if they do fold.  do i still have to pay my loans back?  if they do fold.  how do i get a transcript?

If we socialize health care then we should make it mandatory for everyone to go to a state college.  im open for that.  it eliminates the private public debate on this board.

Roll Pride If we still have a team!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 19, 2009, 01:11:15 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 18, 2009, 09:14:13 PM
if they do fold.  do i still have to pay my loans back?  if they do fold.  how do i get a transcript?

If we socialize health care then we should make it mandatory for everyone to go to a state college.  im open for that.  it eliminates the private public debate on this board.

Roll Pride If we still have a team!
Hey moshergc9.  Don't sweat it just yet.   First, I think Greensboro will weather this storm - if you look up the history of the college, there were other low points, most notably about a 100 years ago.  Other scenarios might be for the college to merge with another (look up the history of NC's Brevard College) or be reincarnated under a different affiliation (Southern Virginia, for example).  In both these cases, a student's records were preserved (good news) and I guess their loans were still expected to be repaid (bad news).  :)

I was talking to a guy from Guilford the other day and they're still thinking the Soup Bowl will be played on Sept 5th, although this will be the 13th time!  Hopefully, that's not an omen!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blitzer1 on July 19, 2009, 07:22:50 PM
Wow, I guess I need to check the website everyday.  Been enjoying the day in ATL before heading back to Maryville.  Saw all the posts about me and PFS and it was funny that we were said to be the same person. This is the final thing I will say on the subject. I can assure you we aren't and I look forward to the upcoming season.

Hope everything works out for Greensboro because it will put the conference in a tough situation with Shenandoah leaving.   My question is they have been talking about leaving the USA-South for the past 2 years and plans to leave in 2011.  If Huntindon and LaGrange joins next season, why don't the commish just tells Shenandoah to his the road after 2010.  I know there is a 2 year wait period, but they have made it clear they don't want to be in our conference.  Show them the door on our terms, not theirs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 19, 2009, 08:17:49 PM
I think as long as Greensboro has some sort of sound business plan, they will be OK to recover.  Losing them would definitely be a blow to the conference. 
Mosh, I think you would have to pay the loan back anyway because I know with my loan I consolidated it thus another company (not the school) owns the debt :(  That's who i pay...  How bout a bail out on all college student loans (since we seem to be giving those out).  Just kidding of course, but really could we...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on July 20, 2009, 07:50:38 PM
Simply as point of reference to conference media day, the attendance by media began dropping when USAC began webcasting the event.
"hello to you all folks in France watching today" is how I think Sypult greeted that change. 8)

At CNU (2006 season) there were between 10-15 working media (depends if you want to count outlets or bodies, some radio had two people present)
At Methodist (2007 season) the number dropped with web cast but very few of the Va. schools had any media make the trip because papers were cutting back travel budgets
At Averett (2008 season) media fit at one table and I think there were 6-7

My understanding was unofficially the media day was supposed to rotate being one year in NC the next in Va.

Averett is a middle ground as much as there is such an animal in the USAC. It would just be easier if an interstate went directly there from anywhere else. Its a hell of a drive off of 95 or 85 coming south and a goat path of a road from 81. Its not too bad going through Greensboro and heading north but thats only convenient for the NC schools and MC.

If cost is the real issue then perhaps a media conference call as done weekly by the SEC and ACC for football and basketball would be an option to consider for press to have q and a time with all the coaches. The prepared statements can be recorded and emailed to the conference office and assembled there as the conference's monthly webcasts are assembled already.

Regradless its a decided issue for Aug 3, 2009. If a member school, a potential member school, Dollywood, Busch Gardens, or even that really fun truck stop at exit 290 on I-81 wants to show up and make a presentation to sway the SIDs -- whose vote is merely a recommendation to the ADs on the matter -- about hosting 2010 then that might even add some spice two weeks from now. ;D


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on July 21, 2009, 01:12:30 PM
Here is a link courtesy of www.suhornets.com to the Winchester Stars article the other day talking about some local players the Hornets will have this season. http://www.winchesterstar.com/showarticle_new.php?sID=5&foldername=20090718&file=name_article.html  Some of the big names are LB Danny Cooper who was a first team All NW District and led the area with 135 tackles. Nate White a QB who threw for 1,339 yds and 15 TD's and only 6 interceptions last year. This is the one I'm really excited seeing play at Shentel this year. His name is Allen Silver. He was selected as an all district first team defensive end but is going to play running back at SU. He averaged 6.7 yds per carry and had 377 yds as a full back last year. Playing defense or running back it seems the Hornets cant go wrong with this guy. With the local players choosing SU I hope this not only brings a few more wins to the team but also some more people in the stands as well. GO HORNETS!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 21, 2009, 01:24:46 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on July 20, 2009, 07:50:38 PM
Averett is a middle ground as much as there is such an animal in the USAC. It would just be easier if an interstate went directly there from anywhere else. Its a hell of a drive off of 95 or 85 coming south and a goat path of a road from 81. Its not too bad going through Greensboro and heading north but thats only convenient for the NC schools and MC.




I traveled Rte. 58 for 4 years and haven't heard it described any better. The part referred to as "Goat Path" that is great. I cursed that piece of road every time we had to travel to Ferrum. (which I thought was at the end of the world and then I had to make a left turn). Keep in mind years ago Rte. 58 was called "Suicide Strip" because it was only one lane in each direction and heavily traveled by truckers. Only road I found to be worse was the road from Gatlinburg, TN to Maryville. I should have stayed on the interstate. All the other schools in the USA South are accessible by interstate and have nice roads. (Maryville is nice if you follow the main road) Hopefully one day the state of Virginia will figure out Danville needs some asphalt running through East to West. No problem North to South, but going East and West will put a hurtin on your nerves.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 21, 2009, 01:30:44 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on July 21, 2009, 01:24:46 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on July 20, 2009, 07:50:38 PM
Averett is a middle ground as much as there is such an animal in the USAC. It would just be easier if an interstate went directly there from anywhere else. Its a hell of a drive off of 95 or 85 coming south and a goat path of a road from 81. Its not too bad going through Greensboro and heading north but thats only convenient for the NC schools and MC.




I traveled Rte. 58 for 4 years and haven't heard it described any better. The part referred to as "Goat Path" that is great. I cursed that piece of road every time we had to travel to Ferrum. (which I thought was at the end of the world and then I had to make a left turn). Keep in mind years ago Rte. 58 was called "Suicide Strip" because it was only one lane in each direction and heavily traveled by truckers. Only road I found to be worse was the road from Gatlinburg, TN to Maryville. I should have stayed on the interstate. All the other schools in the USA South are accessible by interstate and have nice roads. (Maryville is nice if you follow the main road) Hopefully one day the state of Virginia will figure out Danville needs some asphalt running through East to West. No problem North to South, but going East and West will put a hurtin on your nerves.

Don't get me wrong, it's a nice drive from the East Coast to Danville on Rte. 58, but don't oversteer left or right. There isn't any shoulder to catch you much less change a tire on. Once you leave don't plan on a bathroom stop until you hit South Boston (30 minutes from Danville) unless you like woods and ticks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 21, 2009, 02:47:33 PM
Having driven Hwy 58 many times anywhere from Bristol to the coast, it (literally) has its ups and downs!  When it became a 4-lane, especially west of Danville to Martinsville and Stuart, they left the original 2-lane intact, which means the highway in one direction follows every hill contour while the two (more modern) lanes in the opposite direction  are flatter where the VaDOT smoothed out the peaks and valleys - weird!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on July 21, 2009, 11:18:42 PM
MC really should put a huge note up for the NC schools fans warning them to not go through the park, via Gatlinburg and Townsend on 321 or take the Dragon from Fontana. Its always best to stay on I- 40 to downtown Knoxville and take either Alcoa Hwy or Pelissippi when coming in from any of the conference schools in NC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 22, 2009, 10:50:47 AM
Quote from: batteredbard on July 21, 2009, 11:18:42 PM
MC really should put a huge note up for the NC schools fans warning them to not go through the park, via Gatlinburg and Townsend on 321 or take the Dragon from Fontana. Its always best to stay on I- 40 to downtown Knoxville and take either Alcoa Hwy or Pelissippi when coming in from any of the conference schools in NC.
Isn't the Dragon the highway on the NC/TN border that all the recreational motorcyclists love?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on July 23, 2009, 08:29:27 PM
Yep  average about one serious motorcycle wreck a week out there in summer or on the bottom stretch of calderwood. Forgot which tam it was last season that someone had told the fam it was shorter to come that way and they were less than thrilled with that recommendation when they arrived. They left via Knoxville ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 24, 2009, 08:11:10 AM
Quote from: OGUN2K on July 23, 2009, 08:38:30 PM
If anyone has a XBOX 360 OR PS3, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD D3 FOOTBALL TEAMS WITH THEIR NAME.  CNU 2008 BEAT MT. UNION 2008 33-31.

In your wildest dreams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 25, 2009, 10:27:58 AM
I think if CNU finds itself playing Mount Union it will find it's a bit different than playing Ferrum or North Carolina Wesleyan.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 25, 2009, 01:26:44 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on July 25, 2009, 11:06:53 AM
Maybe so, but I feel if CNU had a quaterback like Mt. Union has or Washington & Jefferson it wouldn't be no cake walk.
I'm absolutely sure your last "sentence" isn't representative of most football fans, but without double negatives, "quaterbacks" and "cake walks", most colleges "wouldn't need no" English Department either.  :)

PS Realistically, Mt. Union would probably win by at least 31-35 points.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 25, 2009, 06:20:37 PM
I'd have to agree that CNU could not beat Mt Union today. But hey, that's why they play the game. I'd love to see a game against the mighty Purple Raiders.

Ogun2k - if your disclaimer is that CNU could do it with a QB....who did you have at QB on your xbox? Newport News' own Michael Vick?  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 25, 2009, 08:00:35 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on July 25, 2009, 02:19:44 PM
I see guys on here are full of jokes.  I guess i'll be joking and laughing 10/24/2009 on your home side.  I'll be the one with a no.23 jersey on.  Can't miss me.  HA HA HA!!!

So, why did you pick Greensboro on 10/24 of all teams to call out and trash talk about?

I'd recommend aiming higher than that this season.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 25, 2009, 09:24:42 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on July 25, 2009, 08:58:19 PM
Not picking on Greensboro, Hasanova has a slick mouth or whatever his name is.

Well, hasanova is a Guilford grad, not Greensboro...just fyi. I'm fairly certain he won't be at the 10/24 CNU game you referenced.  :)

Hasa is pretty well known around these parts, so you may just have to get to know him a little bit to understand his banter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 26, 2009, 12:47:57 AM
Quote from: OGUN2K on July 25, 2009, 09:53:07 PM
That's cool.  He's cool with me.
I see some folks have already chimed in while I was away.  :)

Trust me, OGUN2K, I follow CNU and I know who he is - in fact, I gave the Captains quite a few votes in the South Region Top 10 Poll last fall.  Good luck to him in Greensboro on Oct. 24 against the Pride, but, as Ryan Tipps well knows, I'll probably be across town watching another team play W&L.

Here's the way I see it:  I was not a very good football player and, at this point in my life, I never will be.  I was, however, a pretty good writer who worked hard (and still does!) every day to be better.  Number 23, on the other hand, is a great football player and, I hope, also a great student!  So, the way I see it, that puts him one up on me.  Remember, most of us who played college sports are far more likely to earn a living Monday through Friday than on Sunday.  I hope he'll be the exception.  :)  

You'll always be cool with me!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 26, 2009, 01:04:29 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 25, 2009, 06:20:37 PM
I'd have to agree that CNU could not beat Mt Union today. But hey, that's why they play the game. I'd love to see a game against the mighty Purple Raiders.

Ogun2k - if your disclaimer is that CNU could do it with a QB....who did you have at QB on your xbox? Newport News' own Michael Vick?  ;D
I'd love to see that game also.  In my opinion, CNU would fair better than Averett a few years ago and RMC last fall, but still fall by a wide margin.  It would, however, be a barometer of where the Captains stand on a national stage - and sometimes that's important when you're trying to build a program.  

If the NFL Commissioner doesn't come through on Vick, maybe he'll be free for xBox.  Does he still have college eligibility?  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 26, 2009, 10:38:03 AM
Quote from: OGUN2K on July 26, 2009, 07:23:51 AM
Hey this is not 23 from CNU, I'm his uncle. I JUST LOVE FOOTBALL.  NO HARM NO FOWL.  I HAVE PLAYED COLLEGE BALL AS WELL FOR DIV 2 VA. STATE FROM 88-92.  JUST ITCHING FOR THE SEASON TO START.
Hey, OGUN2K.  Someone else just told me you're 23's uncle and not 23 himself, so I apologize for the mistake.  I certainly appreciate your love for football and your passion for your nephew's abilities - which are considerable!  I've lived vicariously through my sons and nephews, one of which won a North Carolina state championship and played DII hoops, so I completely understand the enthusiasm.  I know about Va State as well.  I resided in Durham for 16 years where I lived and worked with CIAA grads from NCCU, Shaw, St. Aug, Fayetteville State, WSSU, ECSU, Virginia Union and others.  Obviously, the CIAA and the NCCU Eagles are a big part of the Durham community.

I wholeheartedly agree, I'm also ready for the season to begin.  Enjoy the games!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 26, 2009, 10:22:36 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on July 26, 2009, 07:23:51 AMNO HARM NO FOWL. 
what do birds have to do with any of this...i'm confused....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 27, 2009, 09:13:04 AM
Im pretty sure greensboro will beat cnu this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 27, 2009, 10:55:57 AM
Quote from: OGUN2K on July 26, 2009, 11:02:37 PM
You tell me
since it's your post referencing fowl, i thought you might be able to explain it :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 27, 2009, 02:22:56 PM
Quote from: narch on July 26, 2009, 10:22:36 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on July 26, 2009, 07:23:51 AMNO HARM NO FOWL.
what do birds have to do with any of this...i'm confused....
I knew some little birdie would spot this ... and cry foul!  I'm not one bit surprised to see it's eagle eye narch!  I'd already decided to let this one fly.  :)

narch, a scheduling conflict may keep me from traveling to Fayetteville on Sept. 12.  What are the Monarchs going to look like this fall?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on July 27, 2009, 02:24:15 PM
Perhaps rather than the typical 'foul' definition meaning nobody hurt, then no penalty this is the lesser known agricultural definition in which you don't get to eat the chicken unless you cut its head off first. ::)

But that's just a guess.

But while we're on guessing as a topic (such a smooth transition here) I'd like to see some guesses as to how the current USAC proposal would work for football in 2011 should it be accepted. It would basically make the GSAC men's team a division of the USA South, and the merits of that for basketball, baseball and soccer tourneys (each 'division'  seeds it teams with no cross play required or counting toward standings, can be handled on other boards) but what makes sense for football?

If no one leaves you have a 10 team conference, if SU goes - which to take place by 2011 they better be putting the required 1-year notice in to the conference soon. Same case for any CHNU move 1-year notice. What do you do with a 10-team USA South for at last that first year.

Any guesses?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 27, 2009, 10:07:05 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on July 27, 2009, 02:24:15 PM
Perhaps rather than the typical 'foul' definition meaning nobody hurt, then no penalty this is the lesser known agricultural definition in which you don't get to eat the chicken unless you cut its head off first. ::)

But that's just a guess.

But while we're on guessing as a topic (such a smooth transition here) I'd like to see some guesses as to how the current USAC proposal would work for football in 2011 should it be accepted. It would basically make the GSAC men's team a division of the USA South, and the merits of that for basketball, baseball and soccer tourneys (each 'division'  seeds it teams with no cross play required or counting toward standings, can be handled on other boards) but what makes sense for football?

If no one leaves you have a 10 team conference, if SU goes - which to take place by 2011 they better be putting the required 1-year notice in to the conference soon. Same case for any CHNU move 1-year notice. What do you do with a 10-team USA South for at last that first year.

Any guesses?

I'm ignorant on this....how can you have an AQ with 2 divisions of 5 teams in each division? doesn't make sense to me....what are the teams for the football division?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 27, 2009, 10:07:35 PM
and what was the proposal?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 27, 2009, 10:08:21 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 27, 2009, 09:13:04 AM
Im pretty sure greensboro will beat cnu this year.

oh man........that one had me in stitches!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 27, 2009, 10:37:15 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 27, 2009, 10:08:21 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 27, 2009, 09:13:04 AM
Im pretty sure greensboro will beat cnu this year.

oh man........that one had me in stitches!!!
I'm pretty sure CNU is scheduled to play at Greensboro on Oct. 24.  You heard it here first! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 28, 2009, 08:51:04 AM
Yeah, ok...you guys have the odds.  This could be the year though!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 29, 2009, 06:58:13 PM
GC lays off  Athletic Director. 

GC releases incoming players names.  Alot of skill guys, not enough ol-dl. 

I hope they retain the core they had from last year and retain most of these freshman or we are in trouble.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 29, 2009, 07:48:13 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 29, 2009, 06:58:13 PM
GC lays off  Athletic Director.  

GC releases incoming players names.  Alot of skill guys, not enough ol-dl.  

I hope they retain the core they had from last year and retain most of these freshman or we are in trouble.
http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/07/29/article/greensboro_college_eliminates_ads_job

mosh, I'm disappointed to hear about Kim Strable ... he's been there 20 years!  He's also President of the USA South Conference.   I know the softball coach already took another job plus the men's basketball coach had his name in the final 10 at DII West Florida.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 29, 2009, 08:23:57 PM
I thought he made some questionable hires over the years.  I think alot of that was the budget the GC has/ had.  Probally worst now.   The problem now is finding someone that can manage coaching and being the AD (with a vision for all programs).  I really dont know Strable but I do know that he has been on the other end of good people leaving.  That is just the nature of College athletics.  He responded to it well though, So I guess that shows his character.

After all of this,  the interim GC administration are going to have to restore faith that jobs at the school are safe or you will start seeing people jump ship.  If I was working there I know I would be looking for greener fields (or just fields that havent been burnt down).

All of this is just going to make recruiting that much harder.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 29, 2009, 11:01:09 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 29, 2009, 08:23:57 PM
I thought he made some questionable hires over the years.  I think alot of that was the budget the GC has/ had.  Probally worst now.   The problem now is finding someone that can manage coaching and being the AD (with a vision for all programs).  I really dont know Strable but I do know that he has been on the other end of good people leaving.  That is just the nature of College athletics.  He responded to it well though, So I guess that shows his character.

After all of this,  the interim GC administration are going to have to restore faith that jobs at the school are safe or you will start seeing people jump ship.  If I was working there I know I would be looking for greener fields (or just fields that havent been burnt down).

All of this is just going to make recruiting that much harder.

Hey, Mosh.  I don't know Kim Strable well, but I do know some of his family.  It will definitely make recruiting harder (players and coaches).  I think the 20% pay cut a few months ago also got some staff thinking about leaving.

The dual role (coaching and AD) works at some schools, so I understand why the decision was made, but it is a barometer of how bad things are at Greensboro ... especially since Strable is the sitting President of the USA South Athletic Conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on July 29, 2009, 11:17:08 PM
anybody heard anything new about a possible merger assimilation of USA South and GSAC ?

i called the Huntingdon Athletic dept and they had little to add to my no knowledge ::)
hope all r doing well

keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 30, 2009, 12:39:43 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 29, 2009, 06:58:13 PM
GC lays off  Athletic Director.  

GC releases incoming players names.  Alot of skill guys, not enough ol-dl.  

I hope they retain the core they had from last year and retain most of these freshman or we are in trouble.

http://www.greensborocollegesports.com/news/2009/7/28/GEN_0728095034.aspx

Shenandoah is leaving in summer 2010.  There goes the USA South's AQ, after the spring of 2012.

Greensboro is ailing.

If Covenant becomes a provisional member of the GSAC next month, the dramatic difference in the "divisions" is mitigated (6 in the North/ 5 in the South), why are we waiting for the GSAC Men to receive an invitation to affiliate?


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on July 30, 2009, 11:23:32 PM
Here's the latest from what I've gathered.
GSAC voted to explore a men's affiliation with USAC in spring

USAC had a vote scheduled but it was deferred for presidents/ADs to speak with coaches again. While the actual proposal is an internal document and not being released several coaches from around the league have shared that the way it was put to them would be GSAC men would be a division of the USAC for football, soccer, basketball, baseball, tennis and golf.

In all but football you get no crossover play that counts. So if Piedmont plays Methodist it doesn't count in conference or division standings. Its for all practical purposes a nonconference game. End of season there is some formula for top five from USAC to play the top 3 from GSAC in the tourney. Football is a question mark I haven't been able to find out about. If Shenandoah goes you have nine teams, if CNU jumps you have 8, if GC folds athletics you have 7. Depends on what happens but I can't see conf. games going up to 8 and I don't know what it does to MC's sked where they have both Huntingdon and LaGrange already on the schedule.

Maybe we'll get better idea after the Presidents vote in conference call Aug. 7.

Personally I don't see this working out if there is no cross divisional play guarantee for the other sports. The GSAC needs some guaranteed games. Right now if they were to move methodist and GC  to the south you could have balanced play with 10 in division and 6 outside. Thats just two extra for current men's schedule to the USAC originals and a huge relief to the GSAC guys. Covenant could require some work but if SU goes completely its still a balanced league.

I'm seeking any other thoughts to the current proposal as we've heard it. Anybody see it as a step forward?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 31, 2009, 02:33:19 AM
Incrementally, it is a good deal.  I don't think that the USASouth men understand how fragile their world is.

When Shenandoah is gone, then the affiliation is the only way that the USASouth keeps its AQ.

Who in the neighborhood moves in the NCAA to join the USA South? VA-Wise?  Southern VA?  We are speculating at best and ranting fanatically at worst.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on July 31, 2009, 09:03:08 AM
SU football brings in 91 for the fall to add to the 50+ returnees and five players added for the spring 2009 semester.

The class of 91 players features 65 from Virginia, 19 from Maryland, two from the District of Columbia and one each from Delaware, Georgia, Kentucky and New York. The offensive line, tutored by former NFL All-Pro Joe Jacoby, is the largest position group in the class with 18 members.

http://www.suhornets.com/sports/fball/2009-10/releases/fbrecruits
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on July 31, 2009, 10:56:02 AM
gc couldnt afford to fold athletics
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BTEXPRESS on July 31, 2009, 11:50:20 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 31, 2009, 10:56:02 AM
gc couldnt afford to fold athletics
You are right, do you know how many student/athletes(Tuition dollars) would leave and transfer. It would be financial suicide for the school to stop playing sports. I bet half the kids at any D III school would not stay at their schools if they couldn't play sports. My own son would not be at the school he attends if he couldn't play football. He would want to go to a bigger school like most of his other friends do.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 31, 2009, 11:51:43 PM
Quote from: BTEXPRESS on July 31, 2009, 11:50:20 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on July 31, 2009, 10:56:02 AM
gc couldnt afford to fold athletics
You are right, do you know how many student/athletes(Tuition dollars) would leave and transfer. It would be financial suicide for the school to stop playing sports. I bet half the kids at any D III school would not stay at their schools if they couldn't play sports. My own son would not be at the school he attends if he couldn't play football. He would want to go to a bigger school like most of his other friends do.
I agree.  Greensboro (and others) keeps publishing the "1300 student" figure for their enrollment and maybe it is if you count everyone who attends a night class, audits or has any sort of matriculation, but .... I think the number of undergraduates who could actually play in an intercollegiate game is closer to 800.  Since it's coed, half are women.  That means there are 400 men eligible for football.  Even if only 80 are on the team, that's 20% of the male population ... and that's 80 beds Greensboro cannot afford to lose!

If GC folds football, it'll probably be because the whole school folds.  Give them a couple of more years and let's see if they've turned it around.  By the way, the Chairman of the GC Board of Trustees, Bob Stout, stepped down in a closed meeting Wednesday night.  His replacement is R. Carter Pate, a 1976 GC alumnus and Accounting major who's built a reputation as a turnaround specialist for troubled companies.  I wish him luck!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptJ on August 02, 2009, 04:05:56 AM
I am in the Tulsa area visiting family and went with my brother to a AF2 football game between the Tulsa Talons and the OK City Yard Dawgs.  I purchased a Talons program and learned that among their mostly D1 players there is this little guy from Averett University named Jeff Hughley.  What a player.  He had at least 3 touchdowns and probably had more.  The OK kicker booted souvenirs into the stands instead of giving Hughley the chance to return kickoffs.  I wish I had been sitting in Section 108 because they got a lot of those balls.  Nice to see a USASAC player so far west, and still playing years after graduation.  He will be playing next week too since the Talons won 90-75 and stay alive in the playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 03, 2009, 02:52:26 PM
Was anyone able to hear what was being said at the media day?  It was the 2nd straight year I couldn't hear anything that was said by anyone.  It sounded like their heads were underwater when they were talking or something.  It sounded pretty bad.

If someone was there at it, can you fill me in on what was said?  Did they say what the conference pre-season rankings were? If they did could someone post those please?  Let the debates begin :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 03, 2009, 03:15:15 PM
I was just thinking how hard it has to be to recruit at gc right now.  im sure the coaches in the conf are telling recruits ...sure you can go to gc but will they have a school in a few yrs?

we all know gc will weather the storm but its going to make things tough for awhile.  promised sports park?  not in the near future.  but maybe that will  help turn things around if things do get turned around.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 03, 2009, 03:31:39 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on August 03, 2009, 02:52:26 PM
Did they say what the conference pre-season rankings were? If they did could someone post those please?  Let the debates begin :)

Preseason coaches poll (http://www.mumonarchs.com/news/2009/8/3/FB_0803092258.aspx?elinkdata=14209)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 03, 2009, 03:33:54 PM
Thank you Ryan!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 03, 2009, 04:24:55 PM
a better link that Mr Tipps provided!   :D

http://cnusports.com/news/2009/8/3/FB_0803093229.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2009/8/3/FB_0803093229.aspx)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 03, 2009, 06:47:57 PM
no way gc finishes last.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 04, 2009, 12:09:47 AM
Great article by Marcus Fitzsimmons

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090803/SPORTS0104/308039963/-1/SPORTS (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090803/SPORTS0104/308039963/-1/SPORTS)

some interesting points in there.  Definitely worth reading...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 04, 2009, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 03, 2009, 04:24:55 PM
a better link that Mr Tipps provided!   :D

http://cnusports.com/news/2009/8/3/FB_0803093229.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2009/8/3/FB_0803093229.aspx)
Thanks for the link.

Oops!  Too bad even this report can't correctly spell Shenandoah.  No wonder the Hornets are jumping ship!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 05, 2009, 12:50:20 PM
OGUN2K,

Has your nephew mentioned the offensive line and/or any potential passing game this year?  Tunde's an incredible back, but if we don't have the horses up front and no threat of a passing game, it may not matter much.  Coach Antolik usually has a pretty solid line, but I can see our opponents licking their chops if they don't have to defend the pass.

Swish3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on August 05, 2009, 03:09:26 PM
Are You Ready for Some Football!!!!

Go Bishops
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 05, 2009, 04:46:12 PM
As to the sound issue, it appeared that the conference used a microphone to pick up sound from the speaker system. From what I've seen done other places that begs for trouble, taking audio from amped up audio, kind of like the guy who calls you 'happy' and wants to share the concert he's at via cell phone.
Most broadcast meetings I've seen have the sound run out of the amp as a direct feed into the webcast either through a direct line with software to adjust volume or with a box similar to how radio stations capture sound from public meetings.

It was a little tame. Sypult didn't have enough material this year and Kelchner was better one on one though he did admonish those who suggested doing away with media day. (Don't know if someone on CNU staff shares board posts, or if he reads, or if there is someone else expressing that opinion somewhere). Ierulli did offer up some brief final remarks about media day location but couched it pretty well as media day being a  benefit to the school that holds it so that it needs to go campus to campus, which would include Maryville. I didn't see the commissioner smile once while he was up.

If this is going to be the norm I hope that 1) the webcast issues get resolved but also 2) that fans can be included by submitting questions to the moderator live and that 3) coaches could be set up at a table for a designated 10-minute span for media to do one on one. You don't really make anyone comfortable doing an interview while they are trying to eat and either get on the road home or head to the golf course.

If you want the full notes
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090804/SPORTS/908039943 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090804/SPORTS/908039943)


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 06, 2009, 01:13:25 PM
Other teams in our conference may not have stopped him, but the elite teams you meet in the playoffs have bigger, better athletes.  CNU really needs to make a solid run in the playoffs to take the next step towards becoming a great program.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 07, 2009, 12:50:16 PM
Long's the ultimate competitor, but he's just not a passer, and I think he'd admit this much.  If he could manage to develop a short, consistent passing game, that would probably be enough to keep the defense off balance.  I know the running game is CNU's bread and butter, but they could potentially have a heck of a season with a little more versatility.

GO CAPS!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on August 10, 2009, 09:59:11 AM
Any CNU fans heading to Dover for game 1? My dad, my brother and I will be there in full support as always. I curious to see how well our defense does this year. Yeah, we won the conference last year, but we allowed way too many points.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 10, 2009, 12:46:44 PM
My wife and I are planning on going at this point, but some recent news may end up changing that.  If CNU could pull off the upset at Wesley, that could really set the tone for things to come.

By the way, I'm not trying to bash Long at quarterback, just stating the obvious....that's for whoever dinged my karma.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on August 10, 2009, 05:41:22 PM
Good to see we have some support coming.

I definitely would have to agree that an upset would the spark we need to get the wheels in motion for a great season. In the past we have upset a few teams early in the year. I wouldn't be suprised to see one this year. I still think it all hinges on how well the defense looks this year. We know how well we can run the ball but that's just not enough to beat top level teams. We shall see.

And Swish, don't sweat the Karma. Just take a look at mine! haha
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 10, 2009, 11:32:08 PM
ognuk i want to see an upset too.  when greensboro plays cnu
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wildbill on August 11, 2009, 09:57:58 AM
But CNU beating Greensboro is not an upset.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 11, 2009, 03:18:48 PM
Its possible.

  Our O Cordinator at least has years and years of experience running his offense and our D Cordiantor has put together some good units.  It will be interesting to see what approach the new head coach takes.  We can get kids into the school but can we get some quality and depth at online.  skill positions seem to take care of themselves at gc.  the line is what we need.  I think Gc probally wins 3-4 games this year but you never know a 6 game win season could happen but so could an 0-10 or 2-8 as well...


run ons...fragments, dreaming.
iknow
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 12, 2009, 03:16:20 PM
The conference releases went out Tuesday on the no merger vote. Was surprised it was unanimous.

Below's the link to The Daily Times story by Christopher James.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090812/SPORTS/308119961 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090812/SPORTS/308119961)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 12, 2009, 10:44:29 PM
According to the article, it sounds like football had schedules ready for 2010 and everything. Any chance the USAC goes ahead and lets Huntingdon and LaGrange afffiliate for football only?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 13, 2009, 12:02:37 AM
It's probably a dead issue now.  GSAC & USA-South commisioners should have just gone with football linking up only - then eventually have the other sports merge into the conference.

I wasn't surprised by the unanimous votes because usually votes done by presidents gets amended to reflect a unanimous vote to show unity amoung the presidents.  It could have very likely have been a 4-3 or 5-2 vote, who knows.

It's just very interesting the USA-South got LaGrange & Huntingdon on a head coaches conference call in June and presented a couple of different schedules to them as well.  I wonder who made that decision to string them along??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 13, 2009, 01:11:34 PM
First day of camp.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 15, 2009, 12:54:53 PM
took a tour through the monarchs new facility last night with former monarch lawmc96 (who has posted a couple of times)...it's VERY nice...should help the monarchs attract some higher caliber student athletes
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on August 16, 2009, 11:10:47 AM
any word on when it will be finished Narch?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 16, 2009, 11:19:11 AM
narch, I may now be able to attend the Guilford/Methodist game in Fayetteville on Sept. 12.  Let me know if you're going to be there.

Good to hear about the new weight facility - always a plus for recruiting!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 16, 2009, 09:58:26 PM
Quote from: jbyrd on August 16, 2009, 11:10:47 AM
any word on when it will be finished Narch?
they were moving in as lawmc96 and i walked through on friday...construction is complete
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on August 17, 2009, 04:18:36 PM
I know I'm a bit late on this but, I don't think Greensboro has ever beaten CNU. Hee Hee. Just wanted to twist the knife a little.

Go Caps!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 17, 2009, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on August 17, 2009, 04:18:36 PM
I know I'm a bit late on this but, I don't think Greensboro has ever beaten CNU. Hee Hee. Just wanted to twist the knife a little.

Go Caps!
Ironically, one thing that CNU fans might wish for the sake of a healthy USA South Athletic Conference at this time is a Greensboro football program that runs off about 3-4 consecutive wins over CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 17, 2009, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 17, 2009, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on August 17, 2009, 04:18:36 PM
I know I'm a bit late on this but, I don't think Greensboro has ever beaten CNU. Hee Hee. Just wanted to twist the knife a little.

Go Caps!
Ironically, one thing that CNU fans might wish for the sake of a healthy USA South Athletic Conference at this time is a Greensboro football program that runs off about 3-4 consecutive wins over CNU.

there are other ways for the conference to be healthy!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 17, 2009, 08:12:56 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 17, 2009, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 17, 2009, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on August 17, 2009, 04:18:36 PM
I know I'm a bit late on this but, I don't think Greensboro has ever beaten CNU. Hee Hee. Just wanted to twist the knife a little.

Go Caps!
Ironically, one thing that CNU fans might wish for the sake of a healthy USA South Athletic Conference at this time is a Greensboro football program that runs off about 3-4 consecutive wins over CNU.

there are other ways for the conference to be healthy!!  :D

You mean like having Ferrum run off about 3-4 consecutive wins over CNU  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 17, 2009, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on August 17, 2009, 08:12:56 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 17, 2009, 06:10:03 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 17, 2009, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on August 17, 2009, 04:18:36 PM
I know I'm a bit late on this but, I don't think Greensboro has ever beaten CNU. Hee Hee. Just wanted to twist the knife a little.

Go Caps!
Ironically, one thing that CNU fans might wish for the sake of a healthy USA South Athletic Conference at this time is a Greensboro football program that runs off about 3-4 consecutive wins over CNU.

there are other ways for the conference to be healthy!!  :D

You mean like having Ferrum run off about 3-4 consecutive wins over CNU  ;)
At this point, I think Greensboro might hope for 3-4 wins this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 18, 2009, 04:07:58 PM
If we have 4 wins this season I would consider it a very good year for the Pride.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 18, 2009, 10:41:27 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 18, 2009, 04:07:58 PM
If we have 4 wins this season I would consider it a very good year for the Pride.
4 football wins from now will be around halfway through the 2010 season for the pride...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Heavy300 on August 19, 2009, 01:32:39 PM
Quote from: narch on August 18, 2009, 10:41:27 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 18, 2009, 04:07:58 PM
If we have 4 wins this season I would consider it a very good year for the Pride.
4 football wins from now will be around halfway through the 2010 season for the pride...

Narch are you thinking .500 or better this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 19, 2009, 09:27:40 PM
Quote from: Heavy300 on August 19, 2009, 01:32:39 PM
Narch are you thinking .500 or better this year?
i'm hoping .500 or better for MU, but realistically, i'm not sure...this was a 2-8 team last year...i like the qb, i think the rb's and wr's are very solid, but there are questions on both lines and lots of losses in the lb and db corps (although i'm hearing that there are some really athletic db's in camp along with a nice d-lineman)...time will tell...

i do think they'll beat campbell and greensboro, though :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 20, 2009, 11:19:44 AM
prediction, methodist five wins midway 2010
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on August 20, 2009, 05:11:55 PM
Mosh,
I like that prediction. Five wins by next midseason and five by this midseason puts MC/MU in contention both years. I know what you meant, but it has been a little while since my last post. I just wanted to start back the right way, battling with you.

Prediction:
Methodist goes 12-1 this year. They now have the magic of the Shermanator.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 20, 2009, 09:38:40 PM
rocket - went by the scrimmage the other day and i've gotta say that sherm looks natural as a coach...have you been in the new facility yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Heavy300 on August 21, 2009, 06:58:04 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 20, 2009, 11:19:44 AM
prediction, methodist five wins midway 2010

I'll take that bet!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on August 21, 2009, 11:25:54 AM
Narch- I went up there a couple weeks ago to visit Sherm and we toured the new facility. I will probably come to the first home game and check out the finished product.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on August 21, 2009, 12:00:41 PM
I just looked at CNU's conference schedule and for the first time we aren't playing Ferrum for the final game of the regular season. The first three years of CNU's existence we had to beat Ferrum in order to advance to the playoffs. I've always felt Ferrum was CNU's biggest rival because of those first few years. It's weird to be playing anyone else at the end of the year. But I guess with such a new program and ever changing conference contenders it's hard to peg just one rival. Certainly NCWC has moved in to the rival category in the recent years, but once again they are a new program.

CNU's #1 nemesis however, is an easy pick. We play them every other year in the playoffs (4 match ups in 6 playoff appearances, ending our season each time). Of the four losses, the last two are just sickening (Lost by 3 in 2006 and by 6 in 2008).


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 21, 2009, 08:29:11 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on August 21, 2009, 12:11:17 PM
There is a quaterback no. 16 who looks very good.  He has PIN POINT ACCURACY AND HAS A CANON FOR A ARM.  Also no. 7 has quickness.  I see a quaterback competition.

And if that means Long gets to return to DB, where he's a stud, then more power to the Captains!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 22, 2009, 09:31:36 AM
Haha, Rocket.. I was trying to fire up narch.

12-1 that is a pretty big leap.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: JAF on August 25, 2009, 10:22:40 AM
QuoteChecked out CNU Blue vs White game.  I was very impressed by the defense.  There is a quaterback no. 16 who looks very good.  He has PIN POINT ACCURACY AND HAS A CANON FOR A ARM.  Also no. 7 has quickness.  I see a quaterback competition.

Who is #16, are there any other new quaterbacks in camp this year? It would be great if Long could return to the defensive side of the ball.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 25, 2009, 11:38:35 AM
a couple of articles about the monarchs from the fayetteville observer...

http://www.fayobserver.com/Articles/2009/08/25/927572

http://www.fayobserver.com/Articles/2009/08/25/927571
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on August 25, 2009, 01:33:22 PM
I'm starting to feel that itch again. 10 days til CNU football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wildbill on August 25, 2009, 03:30:22 PM
Is that quarterback with the good arm the one that chose CNU over Mount Union?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on August 26, 2009, 09:18:21 AM
Is quaterback a new position?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on August 26, 2009, 09:23:34 AM
Monarch Magic is coming soon....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 26, 2009, 10:54:22 AM
This was taken from the Averett University Website:

Former Averett football star Hughley named arena2's Ironman of the Year

Courtesy of arena2football

8/21/2009 10:18:40 AM

Tulsa Talons wide receiver/kick returner Jeff Hughley has been named the JLS Ironman of the Year, as selected by a vote of arenafootball2 head coaches and members of the media.

The talented Averett University alum, in his third af2 campaign, had a spectacular all-around season in 2009 as a receiver and kick returner. He set single-season league records for total all-purpose yards and total kickoff return yards as well as single-season team records for receptions and receiving yards.

With 380 total yards in Week 17, Hughley broke the league single-season record for all-purpose yards. He finished the year with a total of 4,113 (1,909 receiving, 138 missed field goal, 2,069 kickoff return, -3 rush), over 600 yards more than Quad City standout Ira Gooch's previous af2 standard of 3,472 all-purpose yards (set in 2002). Hughley averaged just over 257 all-purpose yards per game. He also surpassed Gooch for most games over 200 all-purpose yards in a single season (11 - Hughley, 10 - Gooch). He had five games of over 300 all-purpose yards. Hughley's 290 all-purpose yards in Week 18 included four kickoff returns for 133 yards and one 57-yard return touchdown. That performance upped his total kickoff return yardage to 2,069 on the season, besting the old league record of 1,943 yards set by Bossier City's Shadrick McAfee in 2003.

Hughley handled 81 kickoff returns on the year, averaging 25.5 yards per return with four return touchdowns. On five missed field goal returns, he averaged 27.6 yards and returned one for a TD.

In addition to his kickoff return prowess, the 5-foot-8, 165-pounder was a lethal receiver for the Talons, setting new team-high marks for receptions (140) and receiving yards (1,909) in a single season. He managed 100-plus yard receiving efforts in 12 of 16 regular season games played. Hughley finished third in the league in scoring (338 points), total TDs (55) and receiving TDs (50). His most impressive scoring effort came in a Week 9 win against rival Oklahoma City. Hughley caught eight passes in Tulsa's 73-46 win against the Yard Dawgz for 103 yards and a staggering seven TDs. His only non-scoring catch was a 17-yarder early in the second half.

Hughley continued his stellar play in the postseason as well. In three playoff games, he led the Talons in receiving (31-498; 166 yards per game), kick return yards (269; 1 return TD) and all-purpose yards (767) and tied for team-high honors in scoring (54 points), total TDs (9) and receiving TDs (.

He was also a big part of Tulsa's record-setting, first round home win against Oklahoma City on August 1. He scored four total TDs (3 receiving, 1 kickoff return) as the Talons put up an all-time af2 postseason-best 90 points in a 90-75 triumph over the Yard Dawgz.

Hughley was named JLS Ironman of the Week on three occasions during the 2009 season (Week 2, Week 17 and Week 21).

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: JAF on August 26, 2009, 04:51:53 PM
QuoteIs quaterback a new position?

Yeah I noticed that after I had entered it. I wondered who would be 1st to catch the error. You guys don't miss anything on here.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 26, 2009, 08:44:46 PM
they miss nothing......most specifically; if you are on the other side and.......... everyone is on the other side. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 26, 2009, 09:49:16 PM
jeff hughley = stud...glad he's in the af2 rather than the usasac :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on August 26, 2009, 09:58:07 PM
Good Luck to everyone's favorite team this season. May they play injury free and good, clean, well- played football. I would love to see the Conference be strong from top to bottom.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CaptJ on August 27, 2009, 05:11:49 AM
Quote from: narch on August 26, 2009, 09:49:16 PM
jeff hughley = stud...glad he's in the af2 rather than the usasac :)
You got that right, narch.  I posted on 8/2 about seeing the Talons/Yard Dawgs playoff game in Tulsa when I was visiting family there.  Hughley was definitely the player of the game that night.  The opposing team refused to kick to him and instead kicked into the stands about 80% of the time.  The rule in AF2 is that the receiving team gets the ball where the ref determines that it went out of bounds, whuch meant that several times that gave the Talons the ball mid-field.  But they definitely kicked it to him one time too many cause he ran one back for a TD.  If any of you get a chance to go see a AF2 game, do it.  Lots of fun, and the tickets and concessions were very reasonable, especially for a professional football event.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on August 27, 2009, 12:24:28 PM
JAF,
I was just messing with you. I figured someone has to help Narch out with our grammar.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on August 29, 2009, 12:32:37 PM
Does anyone have any info on the RMC/NCWC scrimage yesterday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 31, 2009, 09:55:26 PM
Wondering about the Averett/Emory and Henry scrimmage...any details?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 31, 2009, 09:58:09 PM
So is anyone gonna post week one predictions?


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SpeedKills on September 01, 2009, 11:13:21 AM
Does the MU offense look like it will be able to put points up this year? I know in the past years they have had good speed. Last year they did not in my opinion. I do not get up from Florida much anymore to see games, but I heard the O is going to look pretty good. Any chances they compete for the conference within next few years?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2009, 10:22:18 PM
CNU85

You traveling to Dover this weekend?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2009, 11:19:56 PM
OGUN2K


   You can look up the number of highly touted running games that have  come into Dover the past few years and gone home with a huge drop in yrds per carry...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 02, 2009, 12:40:42 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on September 01, 2009, 11:47:10 PM
4.4 speed.
if i had a dime for every football player that ever told me he had 4.4 speed, i could retire...not doubting that young mr. ogun is very fast (especially for his size) and unquestionably the most dominant offensive player in the usasac, but 4.4 speed is pretty special...there was only one rb in the 2009 draft class  (http://www.draftcountdown.com/rankings/rb.php) with that kind of size/speed combo (andre brown)

are you sure it isn't 4.58 or 4.62? (which is still plenty fast for a big bruiser like mr. ogun)

on a lighter note, i'm hoping to see something on saturday that national geographic never envisioned (since they live in different habitats)...a lion eating a camel :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 02, 2009, 01:19:51 PM
The CNU Oguns...I mean Captains will hopefully pull off the upset this weekend.  As long as the scrub QB doesn't blow it for them(the same QB that was voted for by his teammates as the team captain).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 02, 2009, 02:03:10 PM
Ogun at 6', 225lbs. and 4.4 speed! I have a question, Why didn't a Div I or Div II school pick him up? Just curious!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnufan on September 02, 2009, 03:10:24 PM
Im not completely sure but I believe he was at a D1 school before he came to CNU, I think it was Cincinnati.  I think thats what i originally heard when he came to CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 02, 2009, 03:46:47 PM
 :)Thanks for the info, CNUFan.  With those abilities I could not imagine how he slipped through. Good catch for CNU though!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wildbill on September 02, 2009, 04:02:26 PM
According to the information on the CNU website, he walked on at Cincinnati.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 02, 2009, 04:15:29 PM
before this heads off in the wrong direction, let me just say this...i don't care if tunde ogun runs a 5 flat in the 40...he's a beast and he's plenty fast for what cnu needs him to do

i just think that 4.4 is a time that is thrown around a lot, but few actually acheive it - i had at least 6 or 7 high school football/baseball teammates that said they ran a 4.4 (and i've talked to countless high school/college football players that said the same), but when the stopwatch came out, they didn't...if someone tells me they run a 4.6, i'm actually more impressed because i think it's probably legit and they're faster than probably 95% of the football playing population
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 02, 2009, 04:40:10 PM
narch

I know a few kids who run under 4.4!!! The ones that don't get caught on mischief night  ;) Because if you don't run that fast mom and dad have to come and get you at the local pokie!!!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 02, 2009, 09:05:48 PM
Was looking at kickoff predictions and the first few weeks looks kind of dismal. Take a look at the projected nonconference records.

Methodist 2-1
Greensboro 2-1
Averett 2-1
Christopher Newport 1-2
North Carolina Wesleyan 1-2
Ferrum 1-2
Shenandoah 1-2
Maryville 0-3

That's 10-14 overall. Glad season is here but if that crystal ball isn't overly cloudy I may cheer for October to get here. But then that's why they play the games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 02, 2009, 10:48:24 PM
rocket,

i ran a 5.6,

thats why you got in the end zone on that option play my senior year.  still sneaky quick enough to pick you when you were a rookie.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 02, 2009, 11:14:10 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 02, 2009, 09:05:48 PM
Was looking at kickoff predictions and the first few weeks looks kind of dismal. Take a look at the projected nonconference records.

Methodist 2-1
Greensboro 2-1
Averett 2-1
Christopher Newport 1-2
North Carolina Wesleyan 1-2
Ferrum 1-2
Shenandoah 1-2
Maryville 0-3

That's 10-14 overall. Glad season is here but if that crystal ball isn't overly cloudy I may cheer for October to get here. But then that's why they play the games.

Wow I would have to question a few of those.
I would say
FC 3-0
CNU 2-1
Averett 2-1
GC, NCW, Methodist, and SU 1-2
Maryville 0-3

That makes it 11-13..Still not too good.

Just my guess
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 03, 2009, 01:27:02 AM
Ogun is a beast, and he scored at least one touchdown in 9 of their 11 games....Wilkes and Ferrum kept him out of the End Zone.

I am sure he will have another stellar year...

Good Luck to everyone's favorite team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 03, 2009, 08:30:58 AM
Sounds like he is well travelled! Just how old is this guy now? Just Curious!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2009, 08:33:31 AM
Quote from: OGUN2K on September 03, 2009, 12:24:02 AMAlso you may go to you tube and type in tunde ogun and see for yourself.
if that youtube video has an electronically timed 40 showing a 4.4, i'll eat my words...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2009, 08:49:58 AM
Quote from: OGUN2K on September 03, 2009, 08:46:52 AM
Hey Narch, Congrats on your Larry Beavers.
i wish larry beavers had gone to methodist...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2009, 01:37:18 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on September 03, 2009, 08:59:19 AM
How does methadist look this year
i'll let you know how methOdist looks after this weekend - i think (hope, pray) that they will be better than last year, but there really is nowhere but up for the monarchs to go after the season they endured last year - i like the qb, the rb situation is solid with mcguire and scales at rb and layton at fb - i'm hearing that there is a lot of talent at the wr position ("10 deep" is the word i heard) - the o-line has experience but isn't super deep - on the defensive side, there are some nice returners and a really good newcomer on the line but the back end has a lot of losses...we'll see what transpires, but i think 4-6 wins is possible, maybe more if guys gel quickly and the returning talent improved a lot...hopefully no less, though :)

by the way...you should drop $9.95 and buy D3football.com Kickoff (http://www.d3football.com/kickoff/)...you'll know what EVERY division III program looks like this year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 03, 2009, 04:19:42 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 01, 2009, 10:22:18 PM
CNU85

You traveling to Dover this weekend?

Yup - just booked my room for Friday night - then headed home after the game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 03, 2009, 04:53:45 PM
I've been reading the CNU media guide.....interesting factoid....110 players listed on roster.....only 9 seniors!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 03, 2009, 05:08:01 PM
CNU85

I thnk Wesleydad is going to be setting up in the parking area across from the field .. I will be there and Teamski will no doubt be at the game though I haven't had the chance to meet him yet!! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 03, 2009, 05:50:06 PM
I ran a 3.9 once, but the coaches told me that the stop watch messed up. I don't believe them.

Mosh,
I don't remember that TD run, but I remember that Frosh pick like it happened yesterday. That's the funny thing about sports. I could tell you the score of every loss I've ever been a part of, but don't ask me about some of the wins. 

Narch,
You heading to the MU game Saturday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 03, 2009, 05:55:32 PM
Larry Beavers and the Carolina Panthers in their last preseason game tonight vs Pittsburgh - hopefully, more positive for Carolina than the 1st three!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 03, 2009, 08:53:28 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on September 03, 2009, 07:35:18 AM
Correction, Wikes did not keep him out of the endzone.  The only reason he did not score against Ferrum because on the 1 yard line Matt took it in. 

My mistake...It was Salisbury and Ferrum.  Either way, who ever lines up aginst him will have their hands full.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2009, 09:30:48 PM
Quote from: rocket on September 03, 2009, 05:50:06 PMNarch,
You heading to the MU game Saturday?
yes sir...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 03, 2009, 10:28:52 PM
cnu85 and ogun2k, look me up.  i will be in the  lot across from the field.  I will have some brew with me, you bring your food and I will be glad to share some with you.  It should be a real good game, which since i have no personal link is all i want to see.  If i can find it, or if my son hasnt taken it, i will have a 13 jersey on.  see you saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on September 04, 2009, 12:23:17 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 03, 2009, 10:28:52 PM
cnu85 and ogun2k, look me up.  i will be in the  lot across from the field.  I will have some brew with me, you bring your food and I will be glad to share some with you.  It should be a real good game, which since i have no personal link is all i want to see.  If i can find it, or if my son hasnt taken it, i will have a 13 jersey on.  see you saturday.

Wesleydad and cnu85,
I just wanted to say good luck from me and the ASC!  :)  Wesleydad, tell the boy I said hi.  Has he got married yet?  Crualum39 tied the knot in late June and is now living in San Antonio where he is the defensive coordinator for a large 5A high school.  Hope to see you guys at the Stagg if not before!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 04, 2009, 10:44:52 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 03, 2009, 10:28:52 PM
cnu85 and ogun2k, look me up.  i will be in the  lot across from the field.  I will have some brew with me, you bring your food and I will be glad to share some with you.  It should be a real good game, which since i have no personal link is all i want to see.  If i can find it, or if my son hasnt taken it, i will have a 13 jersey on.  see you saturday.

Number 13.......what a great number. Hope your son is doing OK.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 04, 2009, 10:45:27 AM
Is anyone going to do picks this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 04, 2009, 11:04:05 AM
I will give it try. I am sure most of you will disagree but here goes:

Christopher Newport @ Wesley College

Guilford     @     Greensboro

Shenandoah     @  Catholic

Ferrum      @    Emory & Henry

N.C. Wesleyan    @    Hampden-Sydney

Methodist       @    Campbell

Averett      @   Bridgewater

Huntingdon   @  Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 04, 2009, 11:11:04 AM
I went ahead and started a new topic for USA South Picks for 2009 under the Pick-ems (General)

Someone can step up and keep track for the season. I am not a "Bean Counter".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 04, 2009, 02:22:57 PM
Wesley
Guilford
Shenandoah
Ferrum
HS
Methodist
Bridgewater
Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 04, 2009, 02:30:07 PM
CNU
Guilford
Catholic
NCWC
Campbell
Bridgewater
Huntingdon

We'll make it interesting!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 04, 2009, 02:52:06 PM
why not...

Wesley
Guilford
Shenandoah
Ferrum
NCWC
Methodist
Bridgewater
Huntingdon
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 04, 2009, 03:14:47 PM
Hey Blackbird, You left out Ferrum and E&H
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 04, 2009, 03:18:42 PM

(Projected Winner in in Bold)

#20 Christopher Newport @ #9 Wesley

Guilford @ Greensboro

Shenandoah @ Catholic

Ferrum @ Emory and Henry

North Carolina Wesleyan @ Hampden Sydney

Methodist @ Campbell

Averett @ Bridgewater

Huntingdon @ Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 04, 2009, 03:34:35 PM
C
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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

Can you tell I'm excited?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 04, 2009, 05:56:36 PM
Sorry bout that, Ferrum Fans!
But I 've gotta go with E &H!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 04, 2009, 09:39:21 PM
Here are my picks for Week #1:

Huntingdon @ Maryville - MC wins it OT.  2 of past 4 games have gone OT.

Christopher Newport @ Wesley - If Ogun is a big time player, then this is the game he needs to show it.....

Averett @ Bridgewater - Had a strong finish in 2008, but Bridgewater a little too strong right now.

Guilford @ Greensboro - Hope they improve this season, but wonder how many returning players on this season's squad.  Head coach hasn't coached a football game in 18 years...

Shenandoah @ Catholic - They are getting better and a win this week will give them early season momentum.

Ferrum @ Emory and Henry - Roster is filled with freshmen with less than 50 returning players from 2008.

North Carolina Wesleyan @ Hampden Sydney - Should be a very good game with H/S edging out NCW.

Methodist @ Campbell - A win is much needed to get Methodist back on track.







Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 04, 2009, 11:13:56 PM
Have fun listening to, or watching the games...I will be following on the internet and pulling for those Panthers...Good luck to all the teams!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 04, 2009, 11:31:14 PM
i was looking at greensboro colleges roster.  looks like they have some big boys up front...have no idea if they can move...i guess we find out tom afternoon.

Proven qb could be the difference...also greensboro's defense will be better than the quakers.

roll pride.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on September 05, 2009, 04:21:55 AM
Watch SU @ Catholic live ...

http://www.cuacardinals.com/sports/fball/2009-10/schedule


Hornets look to erase bad memories
Last year's loss to Catholic still stings as '09 SU football opens
By Robert Niedzwiecki
The Winchester Star


Winchester — As he walked off the Shentel Stadium turf following last season's game against Catholic University, a helmetless Dionte Beatty punched the air twice.

The Hornets' then-senior running back might be gone, but the memory of the shocking overtime defeat that launched his pugilistic reaction is as fresh as ever in the minds of the players still around.

"I've been thinking about that [loss] since the game ended last year," senior wide receiver E.J. Brown said this week. "It's kinda hard to believe that that happened, but we have another chance to prove ourselves to them.

"They know we play hard, simple and plain, but I just want it so much more this year because of what happened last year, and the year before."


SU opens its 2009 season at 1 p.m. today at Cardinal Stadium in Washington against a Catholic team that has done everything short of pull a rabbit out of a hat against the Hornets the past two years.

Last season, a bad snap forced the Cardinals to abort a game-tying field goal attempt in overtime, with holder Dan Jones (the third-string quarterback) picking it up and throwing to a wide-open Sean Green (the noseguard), rumbling uncovered down the middle for a 27-yard touchdown that delivered a 23-20 win.

Two years ago, SU was up 6-0 late when Catholic quarterback Keith Ricca, scrambling behind the line of scrimmage, drew the defense up and hit Andre Buis behind everyone for a 43-yard touchdown with 4:43 remaining.

The Hornets are going in this time with the mind-set that Catholic won't get the chance to saw them in half.

"They better know they better come to play, because we are," Brown said. "It's not going to be [a] close game this time."

Shenandoah's confidence was soaring before last season started, too, but it was never fulfilled as the Hornets slumped to a 3-7 season. But with 17 returning starters and the memory of a superb second half against the Cardinals last year — SU outscored Catholic 14-0 while outgaining them 160 to 66 — Brown has good reason for bold thoughts.

Brown, who caught six passes for 35 yards and a touchdown against the Cardinals last year, played a large role in a balanced SU effort. Quarterback Vern Lunsford passed for 148 yards while the rushing game produced 197 against a Cardinals defense that featured Old Dominion Athletic Conference Defensive Player of the Year Nick Olivero.

The Cardinals no longer have the safety Olivero, and they return just three defensive starters from that game.

"Since they have lost a few key guys, that kind of will help us out a little bit," Brown said. "We still have the same people, so we just got better at what we're doing. They're going to have to watch out. Whoever they put out there in front is whoever they put on in front of us — big, small, tall, little. You've got to block them and you've got to run and make the catch on them."

The Cardinals will also be without their offensive leader in Ricca, a four-year starter who earned the ODAC Offensive Player of the Year last year, along with all of their starting skill players from last season. (Catholic returns four starters from a spread offense that averaged 32.6 points per game.)

Catholic coach Dave Dunn said the Cardinals still plan on putting heavy emphasis on the pass (Catholic ranked 13th in the nation in yards per game last year). He said sophomore Dylan Knight and junior Matt Cantafio will alternate series at quarterback, with the hopes that one will emerge and become the full-time starter later in the year.

Dunn values Knight, who will start today, for his athleticism.

SU senior defensive end Mo Salih said Knight can be quick to leave the pocket, and he believes the Hornets can get the pass rush and the push up front they needs to make him uncomfortable.

Confidence seems to permeate throughout the entire team, and it reminds SU coach Paul Barnes of the Hornets' conference championship days.

"If we play our game," he said, "we have a good shot at winning."

— Contact Robert Niedzwiecki at
rniedzwiecki@winchesterstar.com
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 05, 2009, 08:09:49 AM
game day...gotta love it!  good luck to all of the usasac teams today
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 05, 2009, 01:27:13 PM
E&H 7
FC 0

Ferrum moving the ball


HSC 14

NCW 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 05, 2009, 01:29:35 PM
E& H 7

FC  7


1:27 left in the first qtr.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 05, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
Bridgewater 17

Averett 0
End of first
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 05, 2009, 01:43:43 PM
E&H  10

FC 7

2nd Quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 05, 2009, 04:31:23 PM
Final Bridgewater 44 Averett 36
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 05, 2009, 05:05:17 PM
E&H 24
Ferrum 21

Final

E&H scored a TD with .14 seconds left.

Really good game. Ferrum was down 17-7 in the fourth, and came back to lead with just over 2 mins to go, 21-17. E&H scored the final TD with .14 secs left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 05, 2009, 05:38:34 PM
Any info on the Huntingdon/Maryville Game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 05, 2009, 05:49:01 PM
HC 31 - MC 13
Huntingdon ran out to a 21-3 lead in the first quarter but Maryville did a good job to stop the momentum. Maryville dominated the time of possession after that but Huntingdon's defense came up with the big plays when they had to. Huntingdon's defense did a great job considering how much they were on the field in the second and third qtrs.
Good win for Huntingdon to start the season.

Go Hawks!!

Yikes. Just saw the box score. I knew the time of possession was pretty big in Maryville's favor but this is crazy. It doesn't even add up to 60 minutes so I don't know where the other couple of minutes would go. Maryville 41:58 Huntingdon 16:07. Maryville 104 offensive plays - Huntingdon 57.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 05, 2009, 07:29:15 PM
tough day for the monarchs...they led 21-7 at one point in the first half, and looked to be in control but campbell used huge plays in the first half and a HUGE o-line in the second half to cruise to an easy win, 48-28 - the campbell o-line is probably the biggest mu will see for the next 10 years...one tackle was 6'9", 340 and the other was 6'2", 320 and they averaged 300 lbs...on a hot day, they just ground mu into submission in the second half...to say the monarchs young secondary struggled mightily in the first half would be an understatement
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 05, 2009, 08:03:38 PM
Victory!

Congrats to the Greensboro College Football Team.

Rival week.  and win.

I saw a few series online.  Didnt look great minus a big pass play before the half. Questionable call to not take the 3 points (unless greensboro cant kick?) before the half.

Just glad to see a win.
Title: Methodist vs Campbell
Post by: musupporter on September 05, 2009, 08:58:05 PM
MU came out looking strong.  Ran the ball at will.  Gave up some  big plays in the secondary and made a huge mistake on the ko recieving team.  Came out in the second half and abandoned the running game.  The defense held up for a long time but were clearly undesized against 5 300+ lineman.  I was hoping to see something new on defense with the new coordinator but it was basically the same as it has been.  No blitz packages, no linebacker support, no stunts.  Just heads up packages that were real easy to play against.  The d-line took on double team after double team with no help.  The secondary was burnt for 3 long touchdowns and looked confused most of the day.  Offense was steady until they got behind and couldn't play catch up.  CU looked way better than last year and they deserve credit for contolling the game after being givn the lead.  Better luck next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 05, 2009, 09:36:34 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 05, 2009, 08:03:38 PM
Victory!

Congrats to the Greensboro College Football Team.

Rival week.  and win.

I saw a few series online.  Didnt look great minus a big pass play before the half. Questionable call to not take the 3 points (unless greensboro cant kick?) before the half.

Just glad to see a win.
Congratulations to GCP, moshergc9.  I was there and it was hot!  As usual, the game wasn't settled until the last 30 seconds with GCQ down to the one - costly penalty knocked them back to the 11 and then an incomplete pass.  Scoreless at the half, which is a big change from the last few seasons!  Not taking a FG opportunity was odd to me too, but then I don't know GCP's kicking situation.  Guilford made three costly turnovers, two of which led to both Greensboro scores.  Anyway, series is now 7-6, barely favoring the Quakers.

On another note, wish this game had been played at night - better atmosphere and not as hot.  Also, nice of the Pride to feature Mike Caparaso on the program cover, but too bad they misspelled his name.  He deserved better.  :(  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 05, 2009, 09:39:32 PM
musupporter...welcome to the boards...great snapshot of the game, especially as it relates to mu abandoning the running game...scales had 7 carries for 85 yards in the first half...and ended the game with 7 carries for 85 yards...he didn't touch the ball in the 2nd half

i think a real turning point, from a momentum standpoint was the last td of the 1st half for mu...they got a first down inside of the 1 with :57 left in the half and cu out of timeouts...and the monarchs called a timeout with about 22 seconds left on the play clock...they scored the next play, but left WAY too much time as cu got a long td and then a mishandled ko was covered in the endzone by cu...a HUGE momentum swing that should have never happened...had MU simply milked the clock, perhaps cu doesn't have time to score TWICE...

and i agree that cu looked much improved and much bigger - no usasac team will see an o-line that big

congrats to the pride for a big win...they needed something good after the summer they had to endure
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 05, 2009, 10:09:29 PM
hasa,

from what i saw..bad footage it looked like guilfords offense was clicking in the first half.  they should win some games if they put it all together.

7-6 but me and you both know it should be 9-4.


jks jks. 

sidenote- did the pride offense ever click?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 05, 2009, 10:13:14 PM
no need to answer.  just checked stats.

could be a long year again if the offense doestn gel.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 05, 2009, 11:07:48 PM
Congrats to Huntingdon on a good win against Maryville.  Uptempo offense and a short field led to 21 first quarter points.  MC settled down on both sides of the ball after the first quarter.  MC had the ball for almost 42 minutes, ran 104 plays and 530 yards total offense, but scored only 13 points.  Offense did everything but put the ball in the end zone.  Huntingdon's defense played huge in the second half in the red zone.  Hope the Fighting Scots work on their red zone offense before playing Centre.

Congrats to Greensboro on getting their first win under their new coach.  That's the best news Greensboro has had in the past 6 months and should boost morale on campus....   Great job!!!!

What happened to CNU and the Ogun express?????   Only 8 yards rushing in a big game???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 05, 2009, 11:39:01 PM
I was at the game in Dover. What a long day! I tried to find the right words for what I saw....Coach said it best in Daily Press

"It was 34-0, we got our butts kicked," Kelchner said. "We couldn't block their front four. Their front four thoroughly whipped our offensive line, pure and simple.

"No matter what back you have back there if you don't take care of your blocks up front there's nowhere to run."

Full story...http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_cnu-wesley_0906sep06,0,7160793.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_cnu-wesley_0906sep06,0,7160793.story)

Also - something was up with Ogun and it didn't make sense. He was running as if he was hurt or scared. I saw trainers working on his knee, yet he was in the game late 4th qt and CNU down 34-0. So I'm not sure about any of that. If he's hurt, get him out. If he's scared, then it's gonna be a long season!

The CNU QB, Long, played his butt off. He seemed to be the only guy who wanted to play. He was hurt twice and yet CNU kept putting him back in - even when they were down 34-0. As a fan, in that situation, I'd have to question the coaches thinking on that. Game was practically over, the O-line couldn't block my grandmother and you keep putting in your injured starting QB?

Wesley LBs were good. They also played a 4-4 with their front 4 dominating CNU. Heck - CNU tackles were in two point stance on pass plays and still were being whipped by the DEs.

For CNU fans - that was embarrasing. I think it was only the second shutout in CNU history.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 05, 2009, 11:46:04 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 05, 2009, 10:13:14 PM
no need to answer.  just checked stats.

could be a long year again if the offense doestn gel.
I know you said "no need to answer," but just a few comments:  Guilford coulda, shoulda, woulda won this game, but TO's were the difference.  That's why they play the game, right?  Guilford's offense outgained the Pride (yardage was about 320-170).  I can tell Teague (former Reidsville HS coach) will put in some trickery - especially on passing.  First Pride score came on a 37 yard option to the right side after GCP picked off a Guilford pass at the 5 and ran it back to the other 37!  By rights, GCQ was knocking on a 14-0 lead, but "if and buts" ... you know.  Even in the last 7 minutes, I still thought GCQ was going to win ... down to the 1 and a costly penalty.  I think both teams will win 3 or 4 this year ... but better teams are ahead for both.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 05, 2009, 11:58:23 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 05, 2009, 11:39:01 PM
I was at the game in Dover. What a long day! I tried to find the right words for what I saw....Coach said it best in Daily Press

"It was 34-0, we got our butts kicked," Kelchner said. "We couldn't block their front four. Their front four thoroughly whipped our offensive line, pure and simple.

"No matter what back you have back there if you don't take care of your blocks up front there's nowhere to run."

Full story...http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_cnu-wesley_0906sep06,0,7160793.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt_cnu-wesley_0906sep06,0,7160793.story)

Also - something was up with Ogun and it didn't make sense. He was running as if he was hurt or scared. I saw trainers working on his knee, yet he was in the game late 4th qt and CNU down 34-0. So I'm not sure about any of that. If he's hurt, get him out. If he's scared, then it's gonna be a long season!

The CNU QB, Long, played his butt off. He seemed to be the only guy who wanted to play. He was hurt twice and yet CNU kept putting him back in - even when they were down 34-0. As a fan, in that situation, I'd have to question the coaches thinking on that. Game was practically over, the O-line couldn't block my grandmother and you keep putting in your injured starting QB?

Wesley LBs were good. They also played a 4-4 with their front 4 dominating CNU. Heck - CNU tackles were in two point stance on pass plays and still were being whipped by the DEs.

For CNU fans - that was embarrasing. I think it was only the second shutout in CNU history.

CNU 85

Nice to finally meet you today. I was impressed with the gutty performance of the CNU QB today. He took  more than a few big hits and kept putting his shoulder into people.  I didn't know what to expcet from the Wesley D ,but they certainly played a heck of a game . Ogun? It looked to me that he didn't want the ball at all in th second half. He had only about 8 yrds rushing total..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 06, 2009, 08:51:07 AM
cnu85, it was nice to spend the day with you.  i enjoyed watching the game from a different perspective today.  we agree on the game, your qb is a gutsy kid, it is a shame few others played with his intensity.  we talked about ogun the entire game and how it looked like he was afraid to run the ball.  it is very odd if he was hurt that they kept sending him in that late in the game and giving him the ball.  it will be interesting to see if anything comes out this week about his knee, because if there is no injury then that was a very bad performance.  the o line did not do a good job, but ogun did not make anyone miss either.  good luck the rest of the year and i was glad to share a couple beers with you pre-game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 06, 2009, 10:16:25 AM
My Bishops took a hard right to the jaw! It appears we have much improvement to make in the pass defense area, just based on what I read. Now we have the Gulls coming to town next Saturday! I don't know whether to be optimistic or down right frightened! Congrats to the winners! Narch, you are right! I saw CU practice the other day, they are flat out Huge! That is why I picked them to win against MU!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 06, 2009, 10:49:53 AM
I have to agree with Narch on the MU game. CU was just too good up front on Offense. They weren't just fat guys either as the O-Line actually looked athletic as well. With that said, I still felt like MU should have won that game. Teague and the Offense looked impressive early on, but the big plays from CU along with the two late first half TDs seemed to give CU the confidence they needed to run through the second half. I think MU can win a lot of games this year, and they have a lot of experience to bounce back from this loss. 2005 started with a 48-28 loss, and that season ended with a share of the Conference Championship, so there is still hope.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SpeedKills on September 06, 2009, 11:38:32 AM
Quote from: narch on September 05, 2009, 09:39:32 PM
musupporter...welcome to the boards...great snapshot of the game, especially as it relates to mu abandoning the running game...scales had 7 carries for 85 yards in the first half...and ended the game with 7 carries for 85 yards...he didn't touch the ball in the 2nd half

i think a real turning point, from a momentum standpoint was the last td of the 1st half for mu...they got a first down inside of the 1 with :57 left in the half and cu out of timeouts...and the monarchs called a timeout with about 22 seconds left on the play clock...they scored the next play, but left WAY too much time as cu got a long td and then a mishandled ko was covered in the endzone by cu...a HUGE momentum swing that should have never happened...had MU simply milked the clock, perhaps cu doesn't have time to score TWICE...

and i agree that cu looked much improved and much bigger - no usasac team will see an o-line that big

congrats to the pride for a big win...they needed something good after the summer they had to endure

I have no problem going away from the run when you are behind and need to play catch up. I think the big plays by CU really took it out of Methodist. CU is a far better team than last year and have got some big time linemen. That size is really tough for a typical D3 lineman to go up against. The offense showed great potential and I think they will put some points up this year in conference play. They only had around 15-20 plays the whole second half so that was to blame as well. They will learn from that second half and I look for them to be a much better team this year. I won't get out of Florida for awhile so I hoipe to have good updates from you MU guys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on September 06, 2009, 06:52:15 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on September 06, 2009, 04:26:53 PM
Listen here CNU 85 OR Greenburg or whatever your name is!  What makes you think that my nephew was scared in any way!  I was at the game front and center and saw a offensive line get PUNKED!  !@#$% SLAPPED AND WHATEVER ELSE THAT I SAW.  HAVE YOU TALKED TO MY NEPHEW IN PERSON.  HAVE YOU ASKED HIM DURING THE GAME WHAT IS WRONG.  I DOUBT IT.  I THINK IT IS REAL PERSONAL WHEN YOU CALL ANOTHER MAN SCARED.  SCARED FOR WHAT?  THAT OFFENSIVE LINE STINKS TO HEAVEN.  PLAY CALLING STINKS.  WHY DO YOU NOT HAVE A NICKEL AND DIME DEFENSE?  WHY ARE YOUR SAFTIES PLAYING UP NEAR THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.  ENOUGH OF THAT.  I WILL BE AT THE GAME SEPT.19 AND I WILL HAVE A SIGN IN MY HAND "LOOKING FOR CNU85"  "HE CALLED TUNDE OGUN SCARED"  I WILL BE SEATING ON THE VISITORS SIDE WITH MY NO. 23 JERSEY ON.  SIT BY ME AND EXPLAIN TO ME AND MY NEPHEW WHY YOU FEEL HE IS SCARED.  OH BY THE WAY A SCARED MAN DON'T TEAR A ACL IN THE FIRST QUARTER AND GO BACK OUT AND FINISH THE GAME!

In my opinion (and I do not mean to speak for cnu85 who I have met in the past and appeared very reasonable to me), it seemed his post you were referring to did not demean Tunde Ogun in any way.  Instead he seemed to be sticking up for him and concerned about his safety. Wesley has seen some pretty good backs in their recent history playing some teams such as UMHB and UWW!

You are the one who has said inflammatory things such as;
QuoteEverything that is said is nothing but fuel on the fire.  SEE YOU SATURDAY.
QuoteI wish all players good luck Sat.  But I must warn you, If Wesley haven't  Shocked been in the weight room, their in for a long day.
QuoteONE, TWO, HE'S COMING FOR YOU....THREE, FOUR HE'S ABOUT TO SCORE.....
QuoteFrom what he has told me the line is ok.  If you remember they stacked the line 8-9 guys in the box.  Still could not stop him.  My only 2 concerns are the quaterback situation and our pass defenxe.

As a  long time poster, I see you as one of those posters who has blinders on. As I said to a poster back in November of 2008,
QuoteAs other longtime posters will tell you, I very seldom get on my soap box, but this post confirmed my impressions of you and reminded me of all the uninformed and "petty" parents I dealt with in my 35 years of coaching and being an Athletic Director.  They too had blinders on when it came to their kids and their program.  Why don't you just cheer for your team and leave it at that.  No one appointed you as their defender.  Maybe, just maybe, you do not know it all!!

I also respectively suggest you read Rule 3 in Pat's Terms of Service.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 06, 2009, 07:13:18 PM
ogun2k, no one accused ogun of being scared, just questioned what was going on in the game.  the discussion was whether or not he was hurt or scared.  it is hard to argue that he did not run very hard on any carry.  if as you say he tore his acl in the 2nd quarter, that would explain the tentative running.  What it will not explain is why he was still in the game late in the 4th quarter down 34 - 0.  i find it hard to believe that the cnu coaches would put him in the game trailing like that if he was hurt, if they did then they have plenty of questions to answer.  your o line was small and slow compared to wesley and it showed early that is was going to be hard for anyone to run the ball.  if ogun did tear an acl i hope that it is not bad and he gets a chance to live up to his pre-season all american status.  good luck the rest of the year.

I have to agree with roocru, you were very confident in ogun's and cnu's ability in this game and they got smoked.  if you look back, pawesleyfan warned you that many highly touted running backs have come into dover only to leave with their tail between their legs.  wesley is a very good program, semi finals twice and quarters twice in the last 4 years, losing only to uww and umhb, 2 of the top programs in d3.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on September 06, 2009, 07:34:31 PM
WOW.   Some touchy folks around here.

Narch, you are right.  Scales was running at will and could easily run for 125-150.  The O-line did a great job opening holes.  When they quit running they took play action out of play.  I think they went to panic mode a little quick or someone thought they could air it out and run up the score.  Who knows.

D-line is a good bunch.  Cook, Wilson, Cazzone, and Doyne have played together for a couple of years.  Not extremly big but strong and smart.  I think they get handcuffed alot by the d-cor.  I think they will shine when they face a normal o-line.

I hope when the coaches look at the tape they see exactly what we saw.  A running game that was working, a d-line that got beat down after holding their own, a secondary that needs work, and just a little work on special teams.  Other than the one blunder they gave good yardage everytime.

Alot of talent on this team if they can come together as a group.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 06, 2009, 11:17:16 PM
OGUN2K

  I have to agree with roocru and wesleydad. CNU85 meant no disrepect at all in his statements. I have bantered back and forth with him for a long time on these boards and I respect his opinions
    I also observed that Ogun looked like he didn't want the ball in the second half. I saw him go in motion twice in the fourth quarter and if he indeed have a torn ACL it didn't show on those two plays!! I mentioned to both CNU85 and welseydad that all-americans step up when the team is down and Tunde IMHO did not do that. I truly hope that he hasn't hurt his knee. I do know from my sons experience that it is not a pleasant thing to go through. I will tell you this though, that Salisbury will also come at CNU with some of the same rugged play that Wesley did and Tunde will have to raise his level of play or he will have the same results.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 07, 2009, 01:25:50 AM
Roocru -- thanks for saying that far better than I could have.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 07, 2009, 09:48:49 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on September 06, 2009, 07:20:09 PM
I questioned the move to.  We will see tues or wed.  It's just hard when a guy tries to play hard with no help.  Then to get injured but I think it was Tunde's competative juices that moved him to continue playing.  I told him to stop, do not go back.  

Perhaps scared was a bad choice of words.....Tentative is probably a better description. He wasn't explodng to the hole like we are used to seeing. I understand how much family means. I apologize if my poor choice of words upset you. Tunde is an All-American and something wasn't right with the way he was running - bad o-line or not. I will look for you on Sept 19th. I owe you a beer!

I don't disrespect any player on any team at any level.

And to get back to one of my original points...if he's hurt in a game down 34-0 and I'm the coach - he doesn't play and I don't care how much he wants to play. There's at least 9 more games to play and we need Tunde as healthy as possible for all of them!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 07, 2009, 10:19:11 PM
Gentleman, hope you dont mind a newbie but have a son at Averret this year and always enjoyed the local high school boards so thought I would jump in. Dont know a lot about the conference outside of CNU, little about Ferrum and Methodist as we had several trips there before choosing Averret so if I get lost bear with me.

Very entertaining game yesterday at Bridgewater, if there is a good loss think that game would easily qualify.
With the exeption of the first 10 minutes it was a very even game. Both defenses gave up an easy td to pass coverage issues and both offenses showed they can put up points. If you blinked you missed a score. Biggest difference in the game with the exception of those first few minutes was special teams. AU's kicker had a terrible day, missed 2 fg and 1 pat. Only average about 27 yards a punt. AU gave up about 20 yards every time you had a punt exchange. AU defense played most of the game on thier half half of the field. AU also gave up a td to a punt return and another on an outstanding Int. return by a Bridgewater lineman.

Like I said dont know alot about all these teams but looks to me that Averret has an offense that can put up points, defense wasnt as bad as the score seems. Definetley need to work on the special teams and hopefully the kicking woes were just first game jitters.

Looking forward to jabbering back and forth.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 07, 2009, 11:12:27 PM
Quote from: roocru on September 06, 2009, 06:52:15 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on September 06, 2009, 04:26:53 PM
OH BY THE WAY A SCARED MAN DON'T TEAR A ACL IN THE FIRST QUARTER AND GO BACK OUT AND FINISH THE GAME!

First of all, your trainers, not your head or assistant coaches determines if Tunde goes back into a game after an injury.  OGUN2K says he's got a torn ACL.  Then he's done for the season.  If it's partially torn, then they can wrap the knee or brace it.  But the trainers certainly would not let him go back into the game with a damaged ACL no matter what the head coach or player says.

Kelchner is a heck of a head coach and certainly would not send him back into the game after an ACL injury.  That's why I think something else was going on based on the posts by the Wesley and CNU fans.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 08, 2009, 12:41:59 AM
Hey AUPOP, Welcome!

I was fairly surprised at Averett as I did not expect them to do so well. I believe they may be flying under the radar. I think there will be lots of parity this year, and it should be interesting in the end.
This is a real good group/board, and while the fan side of the posters here might leave you with the impression of dare I say cockiness...Its all just high spirited hoopla. Very enjoyable banter...usually

Welcome
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 08, 2009, 09:08:15 AM
You all know that I'm one of the biggest CNU supporters there is. I'm also one for openly saying what I think. So, ding the karma and bash my post but here goes.

My hat goes off to Matt Long. He is my type of player. Never gave up even when down late in the game.

I played football for 16 years (4 of them @ CNU) and I have seen it before. A lot of guys start to hang their heads. They get down two scores and they give up on their teamates. "We can't win, so why even try?". That is what I got from the game saturday. That type of attitude is infectious and needs to be squashed right now. If you aren't willing to fight til the last whistle we don't need you at CNU. I'm not saying everyone gave up, but it sure did look like a lot of the efforts fell off after getting down.

And as for all this about Ogun being scared or not trying? I'm not Tunde so I don't know, but I hope he reads this. I hope it pisses him off. I want him so pumped up for the next game that he runs for a mile in the first half. That goes for the O-line as well. You got emarassed saturday. And defense? Great job in the 2nd quarter. But we play 4 quarters every saturday. Strap it up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 08, 2009, 10:36:12 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 07, 2009, 10:19:11 PM
Gentleman, hope you dont mind a newbie but have a son at Averret this year and always enjoyed the local high school boards so thought I would jump in. Dont know a lot about the conference outside of CNU, little about Ferrum and Methodist as we had several trips there before choosing Averret so if I get lost bear with me.

Very entertaining game yesterday at Bridgewater, if there is a good loss think that game would easily qualify.
With the exeption of the first 10 minutes it was a very even game. Both defenses gave up an easy td to pass coverage issues and both offenses showed they can put up points. If you blinked you missed a score. Biggest difference in the game with the exception of those first few minutes was special teams. AU's kicker had a terrible day, missed 2 fg and 1 pat. Only average about 27 yards a punt. AU gave up about 20 yards every time you had a punt exchange. AU defense played most of the game on thier half half of the field. AU also gave up a td to a punt return and another on an outstanding Int. return by a Bridgewater lineman.

Like I said dont know alot about all these teams but looks to me that Averret has an offense that can put up points, defense wasnt as bad as the score seems. Definetley need to work on the special teams and hopefully the kicking woes were just first game jitters.

Looking forward to jabbering back and forth.

AUPOP,

Welcome to the boards. Congrats on having a son play at Averett University. My son graduated this past May after playing 4 years at Averett. My son was the kicker the past four years and even he struggled on occassion. Don't worry, the kicker they have now has a strong leg and should do well. He backed by son up the last two years and I know he can kick. A thousand things could have gone wrong, bad snap, bad hold, bad kick, or like you say nerves. He should be OK as the season wears on. I think he is doing everything from Kickoff's, punting, field goals and extra points. That's alot for one kicker to concentrate on. 

Sounds like the offense got cranked up second half and defense dug in. If memory serves me there was going to be lots of lettermen returning since they only lost like 9 seniors last year. In looking at the stats, a little more work needs to occur with the pass defense.

What position does your son play?  Averett has good coaches, Dunlevy is an excellent coach and your son will learn a great deal from him. Sounds like you may be from the Tidewater area. We live in Suffolk.

Hope to continue seeing you on here.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 08, 2009, 10:38:43 AM
Welcome, AUPop!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 08, 2009, 11:24:15 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on September 08, 2009, 09:08:15 AM
You all know that I'm one of the biggest CNU supporters there is. I'm also one for openly saying what I think. So, ding the karma and bash my post but here goes.

My hat goes off to Matt Long. He is my type of player. Never gave up even when down late in the game.

I played football for 16 years (4 of them @ CNU) and I have seen it before. A lot of guys start to hang their heads. They get down two scores and they give up on their teamates. "We can't win, so why even try?". That is what I got from the game saturday. That type of attitude is infectious and needs to be squashed right now. If you aren't willing to fight til the last whistle we don't need you at CNU. I'm not saying everyone gave up, but it sure did look like a lot of the efforts fell off after getting down.

And as for all this about Ogun being scared or not trying? I'm not Tunde so I don't know, but I hope he reads this. I hope it pisses him off. I want him so pumped up for the next game that he runs for a mile in the first half. That goes for the O-line as well. You got emarassed saturday. And defense? Great job in the 2nd quarter. But we play 4 quarters every saturday. Strap it up.

+1 Karma from me!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 08, 2009, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 08, 2009, 10:36:12 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 07, 2009, 10:19:11 PM
Gentleman, hope you dont mind a newbie but have a son at Averret this year and always enjoyed the local high school boards so thought I would jump in. Dont know a lot about the conference outside of CNU, little about Ferrum and Methodist as we had several trips there before choosing Averret so if I get lost bear with me.

Very entertaining game yesterday at Bridgewater, if there is a good loss think that game would easily qualify.
With the exeption of the first 10 minutes it was a very even game. Both defenses gave up an easy td to pass coverage issues and both offenses showed they can put up points. If you blinked you missed a score. Biggest difference in the game with the exception of those first few minutes was special teams. AU's kicker had a terrible day, missed 2 fg and 1 pat. Only average about 27 yards a punt. AU gave up about 20 yards every time you had a punt exchange. AU defense played most of the game on thier half half of the field. AU also gave up a td to a punt return and another on an outstanding Int. return by a Bridgewater lineman.

Like I said dont know alot about all these teams but looks to me that Averret has an offense that can put up points, defense wasnt as bad as the score seems. Definetley need to work on the special teams and hopefully the kicking woes were just first game jitters.

Looking forward to jabbering back and forth.

AUPOP,

Welcome to the boards. Congrats on having a son play at Averett University. My son graduated this past May after playing 4 years at Averett. My son was the kicker the past four years and even he struggled on occassion. Don't worry, the kicker they have now has a strong leg and should do well. He backed by son up the last two years and I know he can kick. A thousand things could have gone wrong, bad snap, bad hold, bad kick, or like you say nerves. He should be OK as the season wears on. I think he is doing everything from Kickoff's, punting, field goals and extra points. That's alot for one kicker to concentrate on. 

Sounds like the offense got cranked up second half and defense dug in. If memory serves me there was going to be lots of lettermen returning since they only lost like 9 seniors last year. In looking at the stats, a little more work needs to occur with the pass defense.

What position does your son play?  Averett has good coaches, Dunlevy is an excellent coach and your son will learn a great deal from him. Sounds like you may be from the Tidewater area. We live in Suffolk.

Hope to continue seeing you on here.

Thanks Kickerdad, I was hoping to hear from you, I had been reading some of your older posts so I thought you might have some info on the kicking situation. I agree, punting, KO and Pat's are a load for one guy. May have has a bit of nerves as well and a few snaps werent exactly on the mark. Sounds like that will all work itself out. They do have a freshman that didnt look to bad in warm ups punting so maybe he will be able to help out as things progress.

Offense started clicking in the secound quarter and really never looked back. Defense had some issues in the secoundary, seemed confused at times but hopefully they will get those issues resolved as the season moves on, think the bye week this week will be a big help, give them a chance to see in a game situation were the breakdowns occured. With the exception of a 52 yard draw play they played the run very well. There was about an 8 minute segment of the game were it really got away. BC had the big draw play to set up a FG, then the INT returned for a TD and then the punt return for TD. Tough to overcome all that but they gave it a heck of a try, was very impressed with the amount of heart and determination they showed. Should help them as the season goes along. Not totally familiar with the roster yet but does seem to be a lot of letterman from last years team. always a good thing.

We are over in New Kent across the river from you. Son plays O line, been banged up but is now back healthy and will be backing up Mayo( I think).  Agree with you as far as Coach Dunlevy. He spent about 45 minutes with us when we went on our first visit and we were sold. Very happy with our decision.  



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 08, 2009, 12:17:09 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 08, 2009, 10:38:43 AM
Welcome, AUPop!

Thanks, appreciate the welcome.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 08, 2009, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: Allen C on September 08, 2009, 12:41:59 AM
Hey AUPOP, Welcome!

I was fairly surprised at Averett as I did not expect them to do so well. I believe they may be flying under the radar. I think there will be lots of parity this year, and it should be interesting in the end.
This is a real good group/board, and while the fan side of the posters here might leave you with the impression of dare I say cockiness...Its all just high spirited hoopla. Very enjoyable banter...usually

Welcome

Again, thanks. Nothing wrong with a little feather ruffling, wouldnt be football without it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 08, 2009, 12:41:56 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 08, 2009, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 08, 2009, 10:36:12 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 07, 2009, 10:19:11 PM
Gentleman, hope you dont mind a newbie but have a son at Averret this year and always enjoyed the local high school boards so thought I would jump in. Dont know a lot about the conference outside of CNU, little about Ferrum and Methodist as we had several trips there before choosing Averret so if I get lost bear with me.

Very entertaining game yesterday at Bridgewater, if there is a good loss think that game would easily qualify.
With the exeption of the first 10 minutes it was a very even game. Both defenses gave up an easy td to pass coverage issues and both offenses showed they can put up points. If you blinked you missed a score. Biggest difference in the game with the exception of those first few minutes was special teams. AU's kicker had a terrible day, missed 2 fg and 1 pat. Only average about 27 yards a punt. AU gave up about 20 yards every time you had a punt exchange. AU defense played most of the game on thier half half of the field. AU also gave up a td to a punt return and another on an outstanding Int. return by a Bridgewater lineman.

Like I said dont know alot about all these teams but looks to me that Averret has an offense that can put up points, defense wasnt as bad as the score seems. Definetley need to work on the special teams and hopefully the kicking woes were just first game jitters.

Looking forward to jabbering back and forth.

AUPOP,

Welcome to the boards. Congrats on having a son play at Averett University. My son graduated this past May after playing 4 years at Averett. My son was the kicker the past four years and even he struggled on occassion. Don't worry, the kicker they have now has a strong leg and should do well. He backed by son up the last two years and I know he can kick. A thousand things could have gone wrong, bad snap, bad hold, bad kick, or like you say nerves. He should be OK as the season wears on. I think he is doing everything from Kickoff's, punting, field goals and extra points. That's alot for one kicker to concentrate on. 

Sounds like the offense got cranked up second half and defense dug in. If memory serves me there was going to be lots of lettermen returning since they only lost like 9 seniors last year. In looking at the stats, a little more work needs to occur with the pass defense.

What position does your son play?  Averett has good coaches, Dunlevy is an excellent coach and your son will learn a great deal from him. Sounds like you may be from the Tidewater area. We live in Suffolk.

Hope to continue seeing you on here.

Thanks Kickerdad, I was hoping to hear from you, I had been reading some of your older posts so I thought you might have some info on the kicking situation. I agree, punting, KO and Pat's are a load for one guy. May have has a bit of nerves as well and a few snaps werent exactly on the mark. Sounds like that will all work itself out. They do have a freshman that didnt look to bad in warm ups punting so maybe he will be able to help out as things progress.

Offense started clicking in the secound quarter and really never looked back. Defense had some issues in the secoundary, seemed confused at times but hopefully they will get those issues resolved as the season moves on, think the bye week this week will be a big help, give them a chance to see in a game situation were the breakdowns occured. With the exception of a 52 yard draw play they played the run very well. There was about an 8 minute segment of the game were it really got away. BC had the big draw play to set up a FG, then the INT returned for a TD and then the punt return for TD. Tough to overcome all that but they gave it a heck of a try, was very impressed with the amount of heart and determination they showed. Should help them as the season goes along. Not totally familiar with the roster yet but does seem to be a lot of letterman from last years team. always a good thing.

We are over in New Kent across the river from you. Son plays O line, been banged up but is now back healthy and will be backing up Mayo( I think).  Agree with you as far as Coach Dunlevy. He spent about 45 minutes with us when we went on our first visit and we were sold. Very happy with our decision.  





AUPOP,

We are hoping we can make it for homecoming and do a little tailgating. Hope we get the opportunity to meet and chat some.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 08, 2009, 12:59:35 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 08, 2009, 12:41:56 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 08, 2009, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 08, 2009, 10:36:12 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 07, 2009, 10:19:11 PM
Gentleman, hope you dont mind a newbie but have a son at Averret this year and always enjoyed the local high school boards so thought I would jump in. Dont know a lot about the conference outside of CNU, little about Ferrum and Methodist as we had several trips there before choosing Averret so if I get lost bear with me.

Very entertaining game yesterday at Bridgewater, if there is a good loss think that game would easily qualify.
With the exeption of the first 10 minutes it was a very even game. Both defenses gave up an easy td to pass coverage issues and both offenses showed they can put up points. If you blinked you missed a score. Biggest difference in the game with the exception of those first few minutes was special teams. AU's kicker had a terrible day, missed 2 fg and 1 pat. Only average about 27 yards a punt. AU gave up about 20 yards every time you had a punt exchange. AU defense played most of the game on thier half half of the field. AU also gave up a td to a punt return and another on an outstanding Int. return by a Bridgewater lineman.

Like I said dont know alot about all these teams but looks to me that Averret has an offense that can put up points, defense wasnt as bad as the score seems. Definetley need to work on the special teams and hopefully the kicking woes were just first game jitters.

Looking forward to jabbering back and forth.

AUPOP,

Welcome to the boards. Congrats on having a son play at Averett University. My son graduated this past May after playing 4 years at Averett. My son was the kicker the past four years and even he struggled on occassion. Don't worry, the kicker they have now has a strong leg and should do well. He backed by son up the last two years and I know he can kick. A thousand things could have gone wrong, bad snap, bad hold, bad kick, or like you say nerves. He should be OK as the season wears on. I think he is doing everything from Kickoff's, punting, field goals and extra points. That's alot for one kicker to concentrate on. 

Sounds like the offense got cranked up second half and defense dug in. If memory serves me there was going to be lots of lettermen returning since they only lost like 9 seniors last year. In looking at the stats, a little more work needs to occur with the pass defense.

What position does your son play?  Averett has good coaches, Dunlevy is an excellent coach and your son will learn a great deal from him. Sounds like you may be from the Tidewater area. We live in Suffolk.

Hope to continue seeing you on here.

Thanks Kickerdad, I was hoping to hear from you, I had been reading some of your older posts so I thought you might have some info on the kicking situation. I agree, punting, KO and Pat's are a load for one guy. May have has a bit of nerves as well and a few snaps werent exactly on the mark. Sounds like that will all work itself out. They do have a freshman that didnt look to bad in warm ups punting so maybe he will be able to help out as things progress.

Offense started clicking in the secound quarter and really never looked back. Defense had some issues in the secoundary, seemed confused at times but hopefully they will get those issues resolved as the season moves on, think the bye week this week will be a big help, give them a chance to see in a game situation were the breakdowns occured. With the exception of a 52 yard draw play they played the run very well. There was about an 8 minute segment of the game were it really got away. BC had the big draw play to set up a FG, then the INT returned for a TD and then the punt return for TD. Tough to overcome all that but they gave it a heck of a try, was very impressed with the amount of heart and determination they showed. Should help them as the season goes along. Not totally familiar with the roster yet but does seem to be a lot of letterman from last years team. always a good thing.

We are over in New Kent across the river from you. Son plays O line, been banged up but is now back healthy and will be backing up Mayo( I think).  Agree with you as far as Coach Dunlevy. He spent about 45 minutes with us when we went on our first visit and we were sold. Very happy with our decision.  





AUPOP,

We are hoping we can make it for homecoming and do a little tailgating. Hope we get the opportunity to meet and chat some.

Sounds great, maybe you can break us in on tailgating AU style.....LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 08, 2009, 01:12:43 PM
I might be a little behind the times, but I just realized that the new Off. Crdntr. for Greensboro College is the father of MU's Teague. That should make for an interesting game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 08, 2009, 01:59:02 PM
Only the second time CNU has ever been shut out and the 2nd worst magin of defeat. 

10. Sep. 20  2007 CNU vs. Salisbury ..................  Lost 38-21.......17pts 
9. Sept. 28 2002  CNU vs. Bridgewater ......  Lost 25-6.................19pts
8. Sept. 17, 2005 CNU vs. Salisbury ................  Lost 44-24..........20pts
7. Sept. 6, 2003 CNU vs. Rowan.................  Lost 21-0..................21pts
6. Nov. 29, 2003 CNU vs. Bridgewater.........Lost 26-3...................23pts
5. Sep. 2, 2006 CNU vs. Rowan..................  Lost 32-8..................24pts
4. Sept. 21,2002 CNU vs. Rowan................  Lost  34-7.................27pts
3. Sep. 8 2007 CNU vs. Mary Hardin-Baylor...  Lost 51-19 ............32pts
2. Sep. 5  2009 CNU vs. Wesley........................  Lost 34-0............34pts
1. Nov. 17, 2001 CNU vs. Widener................Lost  56-7..................49pts



 
 

 


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 08, 2009, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: OGUN2K on September 08, 2009, 08:06:05 PM
Hey Proud Scott, let me give you the news from a reliable source.  MRI came back and was negative.  He may have a bad meniscus.  I know how he feels.  I tore my knee the same way in college.  Came back strong with rehab.  That what was wrong.  May not be there for salisbury but will be there for USA SOUTH games.

Make sure he rehabs exactly as the doctors and trainers say. If he comes back too early those bad meniscus will turn in torn ACL, or MCL. Then the rehab turns into a whole season and sometimes you never fully recover. I am speaking from experience since I tore both of my ACL's. Previous to the torn ACL's I had bad meniscus (torn, sprained) doesn't make any difference what you call it. He needs to stay off it, and rehab. He has too much to lose. Yea, I had ACL replacement but once the knee gets torn up, somethings never get back right.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 08, 2009, 09:42:59 PM
Just this past summer, I spent a large chunk of change at Va. Tech's vet school after my rottie tore her ACL after having a bad meniscus for several months.

Not quite the egregious situation that it is in a human, but it's my own first-hand experience that wasn't fun to deal with. I wish Tunde good care and good health!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on September 08, 2009, 09:59:57 PM
Good Luck to Tunde!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 08, 2009, 10:19:28 PM
I'm sure the Seagulls coaching staff are all over this latest scouting report!

Good luck to Tunde!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 08, 2009, 11:02:48 PM
2-0 pride???

can it be done.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 09, 2009, 12:07:38 AM
OGUN2K,

Glad the MRI came out negative and Tunge gets back on the field as soon as possible.  I'm sure he'll be back at full strength by the time we face CNU on week #10.  He's the best RB we've seen in a long time....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 09, 2009, 06:32:37 AM
Get well quickly and don't play before you are well, Tunde!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 09, 2009, 09:09:58 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on September 08, 2009, 11:02:48 PM
2-0 pride???

can it be done.

Stop # 7 Jennings, and its more than possible. They are pretty good, but I don't think unbeatable.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 09, 2009, 09:10:09 PM
ogun2k, sorry to hear about the bad wheel for tunde.  at the game is was obvious he was limping, but he kept being put back in which led some of us to question what was going on.  i have to question why he was put back in with the bad wheel eventhough they are not sure at the time, with the game being out of reach as it was.  there is no way he should have been in in the 4th quarter and is probably lucky he did not do more damage to it.  i wish him luck with the rehab and the rest of the season when he gets back.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 10, 2009, 02:25:17 PM
I put these out there on the General Board as well:

Week 2 USA South Pick-Ems

Salisbury     @     North Carolina Wesleyan

Guilford       @     Methodist

Emory & Henry @ Greensboro

Bridgewater     @   Shenandoah

Maryville      @     Centre


Extra Credit

Randolph-Macon     @     Johns Hopkins
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 10, 2009, 02:27:18 PM
I don't mind putting the schedule out there for the pick ems, but I don't have the extra time to run the weekly tallies and see who wins, etc.

Anyone offering? Where's Ryan and CNU85 when you need them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 10, 2009, 02:44:56 PM
Results from Week 1

Allen C                          5-3
Kickerdad                     4-4
Rocket                          4-4
Bishop64                      4-4
Narch                            4-4
Proud Fighting Scott     4-4

Hope I didn't miss anyone and I counted correctly. If not please advise.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 10, 2009, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 10, 2009, 02:27:18 PM
I don't mind putting the schedule out there for the pick ems, but I don't have the extra time to run the weekly tallies and see who wins, etc.

Anyone offering? Where's Ryan and CNU85 when you need them.


who?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU Dad on September 10, 2009, 03:05:20 PM
I was glad to hear Tunde's injury might be an MCL. Matt tore his MCL in an early game of his sophmore year at CNU and was able to finish the year out playing with it. We had planned to get it looked at during the off season, but that was when Coach K approached him about moving to QB so he spent the offseason on campus learning the offense. The doc told us most MCL injuries don't require surgery unless it is a complete sever. So hopefully the same will apply to Tunde's injury.

I'd like to say thanks to Crazylegs33, CNU85, PA_wesleyfan and Wesley Dad for your kind words about Matt's effort Saturday. I was proud of his effort, but I also expected nothing less. He loves and respects the game.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 10, 2009, 05:47:48 PM
Week 2 USA South Pick-Ems

Winner in Bold


Salisbury     @     North Carolina Wesleyan

Guilford     @     Methodist

Emory & Henry @ Greensboro

Bridgewater     @   Shenandoah

Maryville      @     Centre


Extra Credit

Randolph-Macon    @     Johns Hopkins
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 10, 2009, 07:17:52 PM
Salisbury
Guilford
Emory and Henry
Bridgewater
Centre

Randolph Macon

Yes, coin flips were involved   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 10, 2009, 09:51:59 PM
Salisbury @     North Carolina Wesleyan

Guilford     @     Methodist

Emory & Henry @ Greensboro

Bridgewater     @   Shenandoah

Maryville      @     Centre


Extra Credit

Randolph-Macon @     Johns Hopkins
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 10, 2009, 09:55:02 PM
Made a mistake on the Methodist game:  These are my predictions...


Salisbury @     North Carolina Wesleyan

Guilford     @     Methodist

Emory & Henry @ Greensboro

Bridgewater     @   Shenandoah

Maryville      @     Centre


Extra Credit

Randolph-Macon @     Johns Hopkins
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 11, 2009, 06:49:31 AM
In case anyone is interested, thought I would post a link to a story I wrote on my blog. Its from an interview I did with Sam Webb, Ferrum's first football coach. He was quite an interesting man to talk to, and has an amazing story.  Here is the link.


http://ferrumfootball.blogspot.com/2009/07/kicking-off-ferrum-football-in-1955.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 11, 2009, 07:02:25 AM
Salisbury      @     North Carolina Wesleyan  (Gotta go against my own)

Guilford       @     Methodist     (Ready for upset)

Emory & Henry @ Greensboro

Bridgewater     @   Shenandoah

Maryville      @    Centre


Extra Credit

Randolph-Macon      @     Johns Hopkins
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 11, 2009, 02:54:09 PM

SalisburyVs.NCWC
Guilford Vs.Methodist
E&H  Vs.Greensboro
Bridgewater Vs.Shenandoah
Maryville Vs.Centre
CNUVs.BYE

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 11, 2009, 03:30:08 PM
Week 2 USA South Pick-Ems

Salisbury     @     North Carolina Wesleyan

Guilford       @     Methodist

Emory & Henry @ Greensboro

Bridgewater     @   Shenandoah

Maryville       @     Centre


Extra Credit

Randolph-Macon     @     Johns Hopkins
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 11, 2009, 03:31:30 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on September 11, 2009, 02:54:09 PM

SalisburyVs.NCWC
Guilford Vs.Methodist
E&H  Vs.Greensboro
Bridgewater Vs.Shenandoah
Maryville Vs.Centre
CNUVs.BYE



Crazylegs33

Are you going to take a shot at the Randolph Macon/John Hopkins game?
Title: Mosh Quote
Post by: abnrgr on September 11, 2009, 06:55:58 PM
2-0 pride???

can it be done Mosh

Mosh. Now.... do not get too "excited". We will have to change your underwear.  ;)GC-Q has about 7 yards rushing; however, I do hope the Hank Norton Mutants go down to the Pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2009, 10:12:19 PM
Quote from: rocket on September 08, 2009, 01:12:43 PM
I might be a little behind the times, but I just realized that the new Off. Crdntr. for Greensboro College is the father of MU's Teague. That should make for an interesting game.
Teague's record at Reidsville (NC) HS was impressive.  Not unusual to see 45+ points every game and it was an upset if the Rams didn't win the state title (lots of 14-1 and even 15-0 records on his resume).  I saw some of his style in the GCP/GCQ game last Saturday.  Not sure what year MU's QB is, but I know he went to Methodist before his Dad opted to leave HS coaching and then join GCP.  Don't be surprised if Teague Sr. becomes a college HC before it's over.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 11, 2009, 10:42:26 PM
abngr,

  your right if they are 2-0 i will be pretty excited and narch will owe the pride an apology for his lousy prediction.

i was only able to watch a little of the last game online but i didnt see the offense gel at all.  hopefully another week of practice gets them going.

roll pride
Title: Re: Mosh Quote
Post by: Allen C on September 12, 2009, 06:17:21 AM
"I do hope the Hank Norton Mutants go down to the Pride."



Not sure I understand this one....
Last I saw, you guys are playing Emory and Henry this week. I think you can beat them....Ferrum should have.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 12, 2009, 09:44:02 AM
Bored with no CNU football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 12, 2009, 03:42:22 PM
Final !! NCWC 24/ Salisbury 17    Go Bishops
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 12, 2009, 05:47:48 PM
sorry Allen C. Got the skeds mixed. I saw Panther and I jumped...unwisely it seems. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 12, 2009, 07:43:48 PM
nice win for the bishops

the monarchs pulled off an exciting 20-19 win today...reggie scales had 17 carries for 190+ yards and two td's...the monarchs made LOTS of mistakes (4 to's, a couple of really bad penalties) but still found a way to win in the end

i thought this last week, and i think it again this week...reggie scales needs to touch the ball 25 times per game...he's got a chance to be pretty special

speaking of special...#1 for gcq is just that...he played qb, tb, wb, wr and produced at each position
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 13, 2009, 12:47:02 AM
Quote from: narch on September 12, 2009, 07:43:48 PM
nice win for the bishops

the monarchs pulled off an exciting 20-19 win today...reggie scales had 17 carries for 190+ yards and two td's...the monarchs made LOTS of mistakes (4 to's, a couple of really bad penalties) but still found a way to win in the end

i thought this last week, and i think it again this week...reggie scales needs to touch the ball 25 times per game...he's got a chance to be pretty special

speaking of special...#1 for gcq is just that...he played qb, tb, wb, wr and produced at each position
narch, thanks for the update and congratulations to the Monarchs.  I wanted to go to Fayetteville today, but just had too much going on.  Sounded as though it was anyone's game ... right down to GCQ's missed 39-yard FG attempt to end the game.   Parker (#1) is a special player - I look forward to seeing him again in person versus AU under the lights next Saturday in Greensboro.  Good luck to Methodist the rest of the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 13, 2009, 01:01:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC_YJ4zuoEw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eguilford%2Eedu%2Fathletics%2F&feature=player_embedded

Hey, everyone.  I know this is a football forum, but watch this video to see the only goal scored in Guilford's Sept. 9 women's soccer win over Greensboro.  Be patient, it's about 2 min 13 sec into the piece - and worth it.  Besides, you get to see the new look at Armfield Athletic Center.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 13, 2009, 09:44:33 AM
Narch, congrats on a nice win for Methodist yesterday. I do believe your boys are back and I wish them well the remainder of the season ( Exception being the NCWC matchup, naturally)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 13, 2009, 11:44:00 AM
If you think your local paper does a poor job of covering your team, read this excerpt from the Greensboro News & Record's staff report of the E&H at Greensboro game:

"I give credit to Emory & Henry, they played mistake-free football, " said Guilford  College coach Dr. Randy Hunt.  "They capitalized on our mistakes.  We can win a game like that, if not for a few bad plays."

I wish I'd kept count over the years where they've used the college names and mascots interchangeably.  It's a shame when your hometown newspaper doesn't employ people knowledgeable or caring enough to distinguish between two colleges in the city that both pre-date (Guilford 1837, Greensboro 1838) the newspaper itself.  :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 13, 2009, 05:02:38 PM
Can any of you guys from Greensboro tell me if there is a decent hotel close to the stadium? Any recommendations on a good place to eat while we are down there?

Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 13, 2009, 09:03:25 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 13, 2009, 05:02:38 PM
Can any of you guys from Greensboro tell me if there is a decent hotel close to the stadium? Any recommendations on a good place to eat while we are down there?

Thanks
There are at least 20 different chains within 5 miles or so of Guilford - and Armfield Athletic Stadium is on campus in the northwest part of Greensboro.  The college is on the corner of Friendly Ave and New Garden Rd.  New Garden Rd leads you to the college from US 220 and Bryan Blvd while Friendly Ave leads you in from I-73.  On the other side of Friendly Ave is Guilford College Rd which leads you in from I-40.   Easy.

There are so many, I can't name the hotels, but look for things near the Airport/Hwy 68 (Exit 210), Guilford College Rd (Exit 213), Wendover Ave (Exit 214) or Battleground Ave in the northwest or west side of town.  

Same with restaurants - at least a hundred close by.  I'd probably go with Red Robin (burgers), Chili's, Tripp's, Buffalo Wings, East Coast Wings, Salsaritas, J. Butler's Bar & Grill, Carrabba's Italian Grill, Phoenix Asian Cuisine, Ham's (American) - all on New Garden within 1-3 miles north of the college or Elizabeth's (Italian) and Poblano's (Mexican) just around the corner on Battleground Ave.  Fast food chains, of course, are everywhere - across the street from the college and every road leading in.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on September 13, 2009, 09:15:54 PM
Score from the MU game doesn't truly reflect the actual game.  MU had many chances to really open up the score.  The offense has got to take care of the ball and clean up the penalties.  Credit to Guilford for taking advantage of the opportunities. They were moving the ball in the last minute but it was ultimately a late hit on the qb that put them in field goal range.  Surprised their kicker missed.  He had been good all day from that distance.  Defensively, MU faired much better than last week.  The secondary looked much better and the line was better matched to guilfords o-line.  Reggie Scales broke out for several big runs and he is going to be a game changer if he touches the ball enough.  From a coaching stand point, MU has a group of above average line backers but MU has not run a single blitz package all year.  They are going to have to start getting some pressure on the qb.  Good week for a bye, several key players got banged up and need some time to rehab.  Good luck to everyone next weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 14, 2009, 03:06:43 PM
It has come to my attention that we have recently lost the lives of two former Captains and I just wanted to take the time out to pay my respects to both families. I personally had the privilege to share the field with Erik Wellumson and although he may not be known for what he did on the field at CNU he was a great locker room guy whom always had a positive attitude.

Personally, I learned a lot of life lessons in the CNU program but the most important thing that Coack K, Dean, Legg, Antolik, and Lustig preached the most was "winning and losing will come and go, but the bonds/friendships you develop with your teammates will last a lifetime". To all of my brothers future, current, and past I love you and wish you all the best in the future.

With all of that being said RIP Erik Wellumson and Peter Morgan you all will be missed but never forgotten.

Olando Holmes #54 "01-04"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on September 14, 2009, 05:20:28 PM
cnufinest54, it is sad to hear of the loss of your football brothers.  It seems their lives were cut short at a young age according to the years you played.  Your coaches said it best when speaking of winning and losing and friendships that will last forever.  I know it is everyones desire to be winners.  Unfortunately, everyone can't have a winning score.  I wish the players of today had that mindset.  Regardless of the score, when you have battled alongside your friends and given yourself and your team mates 100%, you can't be called a loser.  Winners can't be beat. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 15, 2009, 05:53:53 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 13, 2009, 09:03:25 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 13, 2009, 05:02:38 PM
Can any of you guys from Greensboro tell me if there is a decent hotel close to the stadium? Any recommendations on a good place to eat while we are down there?

Thanks
There are at least 20 different chains within 5 miles or so of Guilford - and Armfield Athletic Stadium is on campus in the northwest part of Greensboro.  The college is on the corner of Friendly Ave and New Garden Rd.  New Garden Rd leads you to the college from US 220 and Bryan Blvd while Friendly Ave leads you in from I-73.  On the other side of Friendly Ave is Guilford College Rd which leads you in from I-40.   Easy.

There are so many, I can't name the hotels, but look for things near the Airport/Hwy 68 (Exit 210), Guilford College Rd (Exit 213), Wendover Ave (Exit 214) or Battleground Ave in the northwest or west side of town.  

Same with restaurants - at least a hundred close by.  I'd probably go with Red Robin (burgers), Chili's, Tripp's, Buffalo Wings, East Coast Wings, Salsaritas, J. Butler's Bar & Grill, Carrabba's Italian Grill, Phoenix Asian Cuisine, Ham's (American) - all on New Garden within 1-3 miles north of the college or Elizabeth's (Italian) and Poblano's (Mexican) just around the corner on Battleground Ave.  Fast food chains, of course, are everywhere - across the street from the college and every road leading in.

Hope this helps!

Hasanova, thanks. never been to Greensboro so wasnt sure, sounds like plenty is available. Appreciate the help.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 15, 2009, 10:05:36 AM
AUPOP, you're welcome.   Greensboro's a city of 250,000 and in a metro area of a million +.  You won't have any trouble finding a restaurant or a hotel.  Guilford's surrounded by residential areas and there are a lot of shopping/dining opportunities close by.  Have a safe trip!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 15, 2009, 10:27:13 AM
Results from Week 2 and Grand Total Tally

Name                Week 2           Total For Year

Bishop 64                         4-2                       8-6
Allen C                              2-4                       7-7
Kickerdad                         3-3                       7-7
Proud Fighting Scott        2-4                        6-8
Rocket                             No picks                4-4
Narch                              No Picks                4-4
AUPOP                            3-3                        3-3
G C Gullett                      3-3                        3-3
Crazylegs33                   2-4                        2-4 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 15, 2009, 10:55:49 AM
I just ran across this article from the Roanoke Times and World News about some good stuff going on at Ferrum.

In a time where the economy is making things difficult for everyone, Ferrum is progressing with record enrollment, new buildings, and a new Men's LaCrosse team.


http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/218874


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 15, 2009, 02:44:34 PM
For those of you who like to pick early in the week.

Week 3 USA-South Pick Ems

Salisbury            @     CNU
Bridgewater       @    Ferrum
NCWC                @     Emory & Henry
Greensboro        @    Washington & Lee
Averett               @     Guilford
Randolph Macon @     Shenandoah
Maryville             @     LaGrange
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 15, 2009, 09:15:43 PM
cnu
ferrum
ncw
gboro-beats wl for first time?  prob not but i still pickem
au
su
lg
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 15, 2009, 09:49:56 PM
For those who are interested in a history nugget, the link below is to the feature on Bobby Bowden;s first coaching victory. His  first Howard (now Samford) win came at Maryville College 50 years ago this Saturday. Feature includes Bobby narrating some video clips from the game that the staff found over the summer.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090905/NEWS/309059969/-1/RSS10&rssfeed=RSS10 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090905/NEWS/309059969/-1/RSS10&rssfeed=RSS10)


And as for the MC opening loss to Huntingdon there's links for the paper's coverage. The trend continued against Centre, lots of offense, not enough scoring.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090906/SPORTS0104/309069950 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090906/SPORTS0104/309069950)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 15, 2009, 10:49:26 PM

Salisbury             @     CNU
Bridgewater       @    Ferrum
NCWC                 @     Emory & Henry
Greensboro        @    Washington & Lee
Averett                @     Guilford
Randolph Macon @     Shenandoah
Maryville             @     LaGrange

:-\  I have a bad feeling about these picks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 16, 2009, 02:43:36 PM
Salisbury             @     CNU
Bridgewater       @    Ferrum
NCWC                 @     Emory & Henry
Greensboro        @    Washington & Lee
Averett                @     Guilford
Randolph Macon @     Shenandoah
Maryville             @    LaGrange
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2009, 03:38:33 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on September 14, 2009, 03:06:43 PM
It has come to my attention that we have recently lost the lives of two former Captains and I just wanted to take the time out to pay my respects to both families. I personally had the privilege to share the field with Erik Wellumson and although he may not be known for what he did on the field at CNU he was a great locker room guy whom always had a positive attitude.

Personally, I learned a lot of life lessons in the CNU program but the most important thing that Coack K, Dean, Legg, Antolik, and Lustig preached the most was "winning and losing will come and go, but the bonds/friendships you develop with your teammates will last a lifetime". To all of my brothers future, current, and past I love you and wish you all the best in the future.

With all of that being said RIP Erik Wellumson and Peter Morgan you all will be missed but never forgotten.

Olando Holmes #54 "01-04"

Mr. Holmes,

I heard about Erik Wellumson at the rock and roll half marathon and was saddened. I wasn't aware of Peter Morgan's passing. It sounds like you were able to absorb the lessons the coaches were teaching and have become a better person because of them. May God bless Erik and Peter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Airborne Dutch on September 17, 2009, 01:14:09 AM
Former Central (Iowa) player and current paratrooper of the 82nd Airborne here. Just read the story about Greensboro's Rodney Beasley. Pretty sure that I was at the ceremony that Sgt. Beasley received his second Purple Heart from President Bush. Just wanted to say how great it is that a fellow paratrooper is playing D3 ball, especially after some serious wounds. Greensboro and Rodney Beasley has a new fan. Good luck to the Pride.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 17, 2009, 07:45:50 PM
CNU
Ferrum
NCWC
W&L
AU
R&M
LaGrange
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 18, 2009, 07:42:39 AM
Sal
Ferrum
NCWC
W&L
AU
R&M
Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 18, 2009, 10:33:01 AM
Week 3 USA-South Pick Ems

Salisbury            @     CNU
Bridgewater       @    Ferrum
NCWC                @     Emory & Henry
Greensboro        @    Washington & Lee
Averett                @     Guilford
Randolph Macon @     Shenandoah
Maryville             @     LaGrange
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 18, 2009, 03:55:54 PM
Does anyone have any insight on the CNU VS SALisBURY game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 19, 2009, 01:43:44 PM
Ferrum 14

BW       0

9:40  2nd qtr.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 19, 2009, 01:50:18 PM
Ferrum 21

BW 0

6:00 in 2nd qtr.
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Post by: Allen C on September 19, 2009, 02:04:13 PM
FC  21

BW 7

:55 left in 2nd qtr.
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Post by: Allen C on September 19, 2009, 02:13:51 PM
FC 24

BW 7

Halftime!
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Post by: Bishop64 on September 19, 2009, 02:29:49 PM
Halftime  NCWC 26, EHC 7
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Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 19, 2009, 02:41:32 PM
7-6 Maryville 3rd Q
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Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 19, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
13-6 Maryville
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Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 19, 2009, 03:17:53 PM
16-6 Maryville 10 min left in the 4th
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Post by: Jeremybozz on September 19, 2009, 03:29:39 PM
 Ferrum 34,Bridgewater 34 with about 1 and a half minutes left in regulation.
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Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 19, 2009, 03:34:49 PM
23-6 Maryvile 4 min left in the 4th Q.
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Post by: Jeremybozz on September 19, 2009, 03:35:15 PM
 Ferrum and Bridgewater going to OT at 34-34.
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Post by: Allen C on September 19, 2009, 03:47:47 PM
Ferrum 37
BW 34

OT Final!
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Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 19, 2009, 03:48:08 PM
23-6 Final Maryville Wins
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Post by: Jeremybozz on September 19, 2009, 03:48:50 PM
Ferrum 37,Bridgewater 34 Final

Congrats to Ferrum.
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Post by: Bishop64 on September 19, 2009, 04:19:51 PM
How do you loose a game when you are up 29 to 6 starting the 4th quarter and loose it 36 to 34 and no overtimes? I think it 's called untimely penalties and interceptions! Congrats to E & H ! You guys did not quit!  :-[
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 19, 2009, 04:23:21 PM
Question....

The front page scoreboard has CNU and Salisbury tied at 21 in third OT.

The CNU Livestats has CNU leading 13-10 with 0:04 left in the game and Salisbury ball.

Who won?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 19, 2009, 04:59:26 PM
Live stats also has a Ferrum player making the last tackle.

CNU won in triple OT 27-21. Wait until the stats come out.....wow. Backup to Tunde Ogun gains 168 yds - Corey Legister. CNU ran 87 plays....70 rushes for almost 300 yds. Total domination of SU except on the scoreboard. SU is very opportunistic and they play hard and never give up. CNU was a totally different team today. QB for CNU, Long, was hurt in OT. Third string QB (not sure where #7 was) came in and completed the win. He has a canon for an arm.....wow can he zip it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 19, 2009, 05:02:17 PM
Salisbury finds itself in a deep hole!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 19, 2009, 05:40:08 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 19, 2009, 04:59:26 PM
Live stats also has a Ferrum player making the last tackle.

CNU won in triple OT 27-21. Wait until the stats come out.....wow. Backup to Tunde Ogun gains 168 yds - Corey Legister. CNU ran 87 plays....70 rushes for almost 300 yds. Total domination of SU except on the scoreboard. SU is very opportunistic and they play hard and never give up. CNU was a totally different team today. QB for CNU, Long, was hurt in OT. Third string QB (not sure where #7 was) came in and completed the win. He has a canon for an arm.....wow can he zip it!

Congrats on a nice win for CNU today!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 19, 2009, 06:44:48 PM
Defense gets the game ball.

Congrats to CNU but man it was way too close. We moved the ball very well and just could not finish drives. 3 or 4 blown 4th and 1 conversions. 1 fumble inside the 10. One interception in the red zone. Two missed field goals. Other than that we played well. ha.

Seriously though. Offense finally got the running game going. Legister looked great and Long was effective running as usual. Ogun didn't see much time and after fumbling on one of his few plays, didn't see another down. Oh and the QB who filled in for Long? way to step up. Comes in at the end of overtime for an injured Matt Long, faces 3rd and about 20 and casually zips a pinpoint laser beam strike to a CNU receiver for a first down to save the day. wow.

Defense!!!!! Way to play. Aside from one blown play in the 1st qtr which led to a Salisbury TD, they looked good. Finally stopped that mean option attack that salisbury has always had. Only allowed one TD drive in the 1st 4 qtrs. The 2nd TD was a gift thanks to the offense turning the ball over inside our own red zone.

Sad for Salisbury, looks like their season may be over after 3 weeks. 2 losses for a pool B team is like the kiss of death for making the playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 19, 2009, 08:38:27 PM
AU 7 Guilford 0 at half, Au has really missed some chances to blow this one open.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 19, 2009, 09:18:53 PM
Game recap. Still waiting on stats.

http://cnusports.com/news/2009/9/19/FB_0919094529.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2009/9/19/FB_0919094529.aspx)
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Post by: AUPOP on September 19, 2009, 10:10:10 PM
Au 28 Guilford 3 final
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Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 19, 2009, 10:15:04 PM
Just to keep it real.  Nice game.  Was well worth the drive.  Number 40 looks like a linebacker running the ball.  He is good between the tackles but is slow on the outside.  Would have like to see Ogun more, but I understand there was a injury involved in his time.  They ran no. 8 to much.  I have never seen a quaterback take so many hits that you know it was going to come.  No. 19 is the real deal.  A pocket passer with a arm, and he has height.  If CNU can get a passing game with their run game, it could be something to see.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 19, 2009, 11:45:32 PM
well MOsh they did have to change your pants ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 20, 2009, 12:45:25 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 19, 2009, 10:10:10 PM
Au 28 Guilford 3 final
First, congratulations to the Cougars.  Believe it or not, Guilford's defense was not the real issue.  Guilford muffed three punt returns that put AU deep in their territory - add an interception and an ineffective offense and there's your ballgame.  Second, I will say that most coaches would have taken a knee rather than punch it in from the one with 24 seconds to go, but AU's chose otherwise.  It's the kind of thing that opposing coaches remember when (not if) the shoe's on the other foot.  Third, AUOP, I hope you found the stadium, a restaurant and a hotel with ease.  Fourth, I think it may be a long season in Quakerland.  :)  Good luck to Averett the rest of the season!  Peace
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 20, 2009, 08:20:58 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 20, 2009, 12:45:25 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 19, 2009, 10:10:10 PM
Au 28 Guilford 3 final
First, congratulations to the Cougars.  Believe it or not, Guilford's defense was not the real issue.  Guilford muffed three punt returns that put AU deep in their territory - add an interception and an ineffective offense and there's your ballgame.  Second, I will say that most coaches would have taken a knee rather than punch it in from the one with 24 seconds to go, but AU's chose otherwise.  It's the kind of thing that opposing coaches remember when (not if) the shoe's on the other foot.  Third, AUOP, I hope you found the stadium, a restaurant and a hotel with ease.  Fourth, I think it may be a long season in Quakerland.  :)  Good luck to Averett the rest of the season!  Peace

Hasanova, didnt make the trip, both wife and I came down with colds and just were not up to the drive. Caught the game on the web feed. Lap top hooked up to wide screen, worked pretty good.

Have to take my hat off to the Quaker D. Had they not played as hard nose as they did early game could have easily gotten out of control in the first half. To be honest at half I thought AU might have blown this one. Only coming away with 7 points with all the chances given, didnt look promising. Few big plays in the 2nd half and they were finally able to pull away. Know what you are saying about the last td but maybe that one might have been out of frustration from being shut down earlier after 4 shots at it from similiar distance, but if shoe was on other foot I'd be wondering as well. Do have a question. Were there really that many penalties or were the officials just flag happy. I havnt seen the stats yet but if AU doesnt have close to 200 yards in penalties I will be shocked,  I have never seen that many flags thrown, especially in the 2nd half. Seemed like there was an AU penalty every other play. Really hoping the refs didnt know what they were looking at.....like on that last muffed punt. If a Quaker touched it, I'll eat my laptop.

Take Care,
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 20, 2009, 02:40:32 PM
good stuff

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/colleges/dp-spt_cnu-salisbury_0920sep20,0,6005569,full.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/colleges/dp-spt_cnu-salisbury_0920sep20,0,6005569,full.story)


http://www.dailypress.com/sports/colleges/dp-spt_cnu-notes_0920sep20,0,4161270.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/colleges/dp-spt_cnu-notes_0920sep20,0,4161270.story)

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/colleges/dp-spt_cnu-sider_0920sep20,0,5219030.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/colleges/dp-spt_cnu-sider_0920sep20,0,5219030.story)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 20, 2009, 04:38:42 PM
cnu85, congrats on the teams win.  glad to hear that they showed better this week.  how does salisbury compare to wesley?  good luck the rest of the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 20, 2009, 09:43:40 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 20, 2009, 08:20:58 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 20, 2009, 12:45:25 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 19, 2009, 10:10:10 PM
Au 28 Guilford 3 final
First, congratulations to the Cougars.  Believe it or not, Guilford's defense was not the real issue.  Guilford muffed three punt returns that put AU deep in their territory - add an interception and an ineffective offense and there's your ballgame.  Second, I will say that most coaches would have taken a knee rather than punch it in from the one with 24 seconds to go, but AU's chose otherwise.  It's the kind of thing that opposing coaches remember when (not if) the shoe's on the other foot.  Third, AUOP, I hope you found the stadium, a restaurant and a hotel with ease.  Fourth, I think it may be a long season in Quakerland.  :)  Good luck to Averett the rest of the season!  Peace

Hasanova, didnt make the trip, both wife and I came down with colds and just were not up to the drive. Caught the game on the web feed. Lap top hooked up to wide screen, worked pretty good.

Have to take my hat off to the Quaker D. Had they not played as hard nose as they did early game could have easily gotten out of control in the first half. To be honest at half I thought AU might have blown this one. Only coming away with 7 points with all the chances given, didnt look promising. Few big plays in the 2nd half and they were finally able to pull away. Know what you are saying about the last td but maybe that one might have been out of frustration from being shut down earlier after 4 shots at it from similiar distance, but if shoe was on other foot I'd be wondering as well. Do have a question. Were there really that many penalties or were the officials just flag happy. I havnt seen the stats yet but if AU doesnt have close to 200 yards in penalties I will be shocked,  I have never seen that many flags thrown, especially in the 2nd half. Seemed like there was an AU penalty every other play. Really hoping the refs didnt know what they were looking at.....like on that last muffed punt. If a Quaker touched it, I'll eat my laptop.

Take Care,
AUPOP, I hope you and your wife are feeling better.  There were a lot of penalties and I didn't think GC touched that punt either, but sometimes it can graze someone's foot and you can't see it in the stands - but that was a tough break for the Quakers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 20, 2009, 11:10:36 PM
abngr,

pants changed. 

congrats to coach young- monkey is running off your back brother,  memory from the past, washington and lees locker room realizing that my last football game was a loss and knowing i wouldnt play the game anymore.  glad for the d to get the win.  looks like the o still needs to gel but to pull it off in ot like that is bigtime.  senior qb had the confidence to do it.


by the way coach young, need your address to send you a wedding invite. i know your reading.
imosher@greensoborocollege.edu
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 21, 2009, 03:04:29 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 20, 2009, 04:38:42 PM
cnu85, congrats on the teams win.  glad to hear that they showed better this week.  how does salisbury compare to wesley?  good luck the rest of the season.

Wesley is 100 times better (faster, quicker, executes better). But I undertsand that SU was missing their starting QB and RB.......I was told that, but haven't checked to see if it is true or not. CNU for some reason on defense became a lot faster than they were against Wesley. Or maybe Wesley is just that much faster??? It's hard to compare. I think CNU had a tough 2 weeks off after the Wesley beating.
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Post by: HSC85 on September 21, 2009, 03:38:05 PM
I think that Wesley makes just about all teams look slower than they appear against any other team.  In 2007, I watched Hampden-Sydney play at Wesley and they were better at every position.  Passes that were completed all year were broken up that day.  Tackles that were made all year were missed.  I do not think CNU will face a team equal to Wesley in speed and quickness until they get to the playoffs. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 21, 2009, 07:58:38 PM
Daily Times column
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090921/SPORTS0104/309219991 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090921/SPORTS0104/309219991)

Good to see the conference finishing out non conf play strong after rough start.

CNU85 what happened to Jennifer Williams at The Daily News? I thought she always covered the Captains?

After talking to folks at both LaGrange and Huntingdon this year the sense from them is that they will, at least for football, be in the USA South soon. Can't say how accurate some of those predictions are but does feel like if the conferences aren't ready to marry they can still kiss under the football bleachers.

You get the reminder here first for Oct. 3
Maryville is 0-2 on its home turf against Methodist since joining the conf.
Methodist is 0-2 on its home field against Maryville over that same time.
When picking this game consider Maryville is playing at home and good luck figuring out what that means in this series. ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 22, 2009, 12:45:36 AM
Very good article on the Scots Batteredbard.  I'm encouraged by MC's win against a very good LaGrange squad that returned 19 starters from their 2008 playoff team.  Hopefully the young Fighting Scots have gained valuable experience before the conference schedule begins in 2 weeks.

Just some other thoughts:

Great job by CNU, Ferrum and Greensboro in winning their OT games.  It's probably very rare that a conference has 3 OT games on the same weekend that were all won by the conference teams.  I'm sure Greensboro fans are excited about their 2-1 start.

On the flip side, I can't believe the 4th quarter meltdown that NC Wesleyan had against E&H.  Reminds me of MC's win against NCW 4 years ago when the Fighting Scots overcame a 17 point 4th quarter deficit to beat NCW in 4 OT's.

Finally, what the status on CNU's Ogun?  Is he playing??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 22, 2009, 10:23:24 PM
We understand you are trying to keep it real (you mention it before every sentence, and it is your username) but maybe if you knew some football you would really be able to keep it real.  Did you watch either of CNU's games or just check out the stats?  Over half of the QB's 'runs' this year have been off of pass plays where he scrambled and picked up positive yards.  If sacks didn't count against a QB's rushing statistics, his numbers would be a lot better (even though they're not bad now).  Tunde hasn't been healthy for either of the 2 games...that's evident by 20 rushes for 40 yards.  He needs to get healthy for the conference games, and when he does he will explode and be the All-American back we saw last year.  

You are right with one point though, Long-Legister did make a formidable 1-2 punch that could wear a team down.  Maybe it's just me, but I would want a QB that can pick up 14 yards scrambling on a 3rd and 13 play in the 2nd OT trailing  21-14.  Did I mention he gave up his body on the play, knowing exactly where he had to get for the first down and help his team win?  He rushed the ball 18 times for 89 yards.  I'll take 4.94444444 yards a carry all day.  Maybe that's why he had the ball in his hands so much.  And that is keeping it real.    

batteredbard, to answer your question about Jennifer Williams, I'm not sure what happened with her.  I can tell you that I saw her after the game and she was trying to get an interview.  She must work for a different newspaper because I haven't seen her with the Daily Press in over a year.

Narch, sorry in advance for any grammatical errors.  I tend to make some when I get worked up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 22, 2009, 10:39:10 PM
Ryan,

Great article on the Ferrum Bridgewater game. Really enjoyed it. I put a link to it on my blog.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on September 23, 2009, 01:00:10 PM
What's the word on your brother, CNUALUM9?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 23, 2009, 02:36:27 PM
He has asked me not to say.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 23, 2009, 02:51:21 PM
Results from Week 3:

Moshergc9               4-3
Bishop64                 3-4
Allen C                     3-4
AUPOP                     3-4
ProudFightingScot   4-3
Kickerdad                3-4


Grand Total for season so far:

Bishop64                11-10
Allen C                    10-11
Kickerdad               10-11
ProudFightingScot  10-11
AUPOP                      6-7
Narch                       4-4
Rocket                      4-4
Moshergc9                4-3
GCGullett                  3-3
Crazylegs33             2-4
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 23, 2009, 02:52:37 PM
Week 4 Schedule:  Added ODAC teams in since half of the USAS is off this week.

Wilkes                   @      CNU
Ferrum                  @      Southern VA
Emory & Henry      @     Methodist
Washington & Lee @     Averett
Hampden Sydney  @     Guilford
Lycoming               @     Bridgewater
Randolph Macon   @     Catholic

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 23, 2009, 06:45:51 PM

Wilkes                   @      CNU
Ferrum                  @      Southern VA
Emory & Henry      @     Methodist
Washington & Lee @    Averett
Hampden Sydney  @     Guilford
Lycoming               @     Bridgewater
Randolph Macon   @     Catholic
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2009, 11:27:47 PM
Wilkes                   @      CNU
Ferrum                  @      Southern VA
Emory & Henry      @     Methodist
Washington & Lee          @    Averett
Hampden Sydney @     Guilford
Lycoming              @     Bridgewater
Randolph Macon   @     Catholic
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 24, 2009, 06:27:46 AM
CNU
Ferrum
E&H
AU
HS
Lycoming
R&M



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 24, 2009, 08:31:10 AM
So based on what we have seen so far, Is anyone seeing any surprises? For me, I think Averett is flying under the radar...They seem stronger than I expected. Greensboro has already won more games than I thought they would with a new coach, and SU is not producing like I thought they might, but they have had a stout schedule.

Ferrum is about where I thought they would be, but as they have lost a lot of players that should have returned this year...6 that I can think of, My hopes of a conference championship are somewhat diminished. I will keep pulling for them however.

There used to be other FC supporters on the board....what happened to them?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 24, 2009, 08:51:30 AM
Student council president and the coach's son used to be regular commenters (and haters of the Top 25) on the Daily Dose. I think they stopped posting when the poll was proved repeatedly correct.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 24, 2009, 10:43:19 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 24, 2009, 08:51:30 AM
Student council president and the coach's son used to be regular commenters (and haters of the Top 25) on the Daily Dose. I think they stopped posting when the poll was proved repeatedly correct.
With the exception of Bridgewater in the early 2000's, dominating the ODAC and/or USASAC doesn't necessarily equate to Top 25 status.  I can't remember what year it was, but Ferrum started 9-0 and made the playoffs.  A now infamous line from one poster was "Ferrum can put up "25?" on anyone" ... the playoffs proved otherwise.  Some teams in the two conferences are off to a good start, but it's early ... and strength of schedule is a relative thing.  Beating BC at home in OT is a great win, but I bet there are 20+ teams in DIII that would absolutely pound both the Eagles and the Panthers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 24, 2009, 10:51:34 AM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 21, 2009, 07:58:38 PM
Daily Times column

CNU85 what happened to Jennifer Williams at The Daily News? I thought she always covered the Captains?

(http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20090921/SPORTS0104/309219991)

They moved her to another, non sports beat last year in favor of someone else (forgot her name - but she played  computer games during basketball contests). Then I noticed the writer for this week's game was different....so I'm not sure what's going on anymore. Nobody was more dedicated to CNU sports than Jen. Even after being moved, she would attend games - just as a fan!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 24, 2009, 11:06:52 AM
So does anyone know the status of Tunde and Matt this week?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 24, 2009, 12:07:08 PM
"Beating BC at home in OT is a great win, but I bet there are 20+ teams in DIII that would absolutely pound both the Eagles and the Panthers"

Ahhhh......diplomacy.....nice Hasa
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 24, 2009, 05:10:47 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 24, 2009, 12:07:08 PM
"Beating BC at home in OT is a great win, but I bet there are 20+ teams in DIII that would absolutely pound both the Eagles and the Panthers"

Ahhhh......diplomacy.....nice Hasa
I see you caught that, abnrgr.  Sadly, the 2009 Quakers are probably not one of the 20 teams.  :)  Good to see you online - are you still in CO?  I have a son in his 2nd year of grad school at the U. of Denver.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 24, 2009, 05:24:36 PM
Hasa
Not in CO right now nor will I be in the near future. I am skulking about in the NE. Rather not say where as there are people dissatisfied with me and might want to know.  ;) Most people do not care probably but there is always one.

Maybe 7-3 huh?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 25, 2009, 09:37:22 AM
  Beating BC at home in OT is a great win, but I bet there are 20+ teams in DIII that would absolutely pound both the Eagles and the Panthers.
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No doubt in my mind...Way more than 20 I am sure. Ferrum has aspects of the team that are very inexperienced and aspects that are strong. BC was a good win, and hopefully that will carry over against Southern Virginia....but having to travel to NCW next week after NCW lost a heartbreaker to E&H, AND after they have had a week off..... well I worry that NCW will be counted among one of those 20 teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 25, 2009, 11:41:04 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 24, 2009, 05:24:36 PM
Hasa
Not in CO right now nor will I be in the near future. I am skulking about in the NE. Rather not say where as there are people dissatisfied with me and might want to know.  ;) Most people do not care probably but there is always one.

Maybe 7-3 huh?
abnrgr - best to you wherever you are!   Quaker soccer may be 7-3-1 after Saturday, but Quaker football won't see 7-3 in '09.  I see some games ahead that GC could win, but overall this season's a rebuilding year.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 25, 2009, 11:45:02 AM
Ferrum's off to a good start - but NCWC will be a strong test.  GC often got "pounded" at Ferrum, but I miss trips to FC - beautiful venue and not so far from where I grew up in Patrick Co.  I don't think GC & FC have played since Guilford's '05 win in Greensboro.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on September 25, 2009, 12:24:57 PM
I am heading for the Averett - W&L game tomorrow.  My daughter goes to Averett and it is homecoming.  Has anyone seen either team play this year?  I have only seen Hampden-Sydney games so far.  Will alot of rain impact the field at Averett?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 25, 2009, 02:00:12 PM
Quote from: HSC85 on September 25, 2009, 12:24:57 PM
I am heading for the Averett - W&L game tomorrow.  My daughter goes to Averett and it is homecoming.  Has anyone seen either team play this year?  I have only seen Hampden-Sydney games so far.  Will alot of rain impact the field at Averett?

HSC85,

Answer to both of your questions, yes. I watched Averett against Guilford and they looked real good in second half. However, everyone is aware that Guilford is rebuilding this year, so I wouldn't be jumping up and down if I were Averett just yet. They struggled against W&L the last two years and I really don't know why. Well, I do know but still, they should have played better both times.

In the past Averett's field would get real sloppy when it rains. The girls and boys soccer teams play on the field and I am sure they have already had several games this year on that field. This will be Averett's first home game and possibly the field may already show some wear and tear. However, they have and should keep the tarp on the field up until the last minute which will help. If it rains, field goal and PAT kickers will struggle. They will have to move around to find a good spot.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 25, 2009, 02:03:07 PM
Week 4 picks:

Wilkes                    @      CNU     Wishfull thinking
Ferrum                  @      Southern VA
Emory & Henry      @     Methodist
Washington & Lee @    Averett
Hampden Sydney  @     Guilford
Lycoming                @     Bridgewater
Randolph Macon   @     Catholic   toss up, going w/home field advantage.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on September 25, 2009, 02:24:55 PM
Kickerdad,

Thanks for the input.  I have a son that plays for HSC and I too am confounded sometimes when teams seem to play less than their best against some teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 25, 2009, 03:20:30 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on September 24, 2009, 11:06:52 AM
So does anyone know the status of Tunde and Matt this week?

There was an article in the Daily Press on the 24th. Doesn't really say much. Lots of words, though. And a stupid stat at the end of the piece.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 25, 2009, 03:28:58 PM
Yeah, your right.  It doesn't say much.  From what I saw look like one of the two is not coming back.  He got messed up realy bad.  Gutsy kid though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 25, 2009, 03:41:36 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 25, 2009, 02:00:12 PM
Quote from: HSC85 on September 25, 2009, 12:24:57 PM
I am heading for the Averett - W&L game tomorrow.  My daughter goes to Averett and it is homecoming.  Has anyone seen either team play this year?  I have only seen Hampden-Sydney games so far.  Will alot of rain impact the field at Averett?
Answer to both of your questions, yes.
Kickerdad got it right.  I saw AU's field about 3 years ago and wasn't impressed.  Granted, they could have made great improvements since, but I can see how rain would create significant problems (not to mention with it also being worn from soccer).  Averett's a decent team, but Guilford's probably not the best barometer this season - I was at the AU/GC game and thought AU was about 14 points better despite the 25-point margin.  I'd make the Cougars about a 10-point favorite over W&L at home, but a sloppy field can create strange bounces.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 25, 2009, 03:47:46 PM
Really looking forward for Saturday. Will spend most of the day on CNU campus. Football at 1pm. Jeff Foxworthy at 9:30.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 25, 2009, 06:21:54 PM
[quote ] I don't think GC & FC have played since Guilford's '05 win in Greensboro.
[/quote]


I wish they WOULD schedule Guilford and get this useless game with Southern Virginia off of the schedule. This is a pointless, and meaningless game, and can only hurt Ferrum. If Ferrum wins, it's not going to help them at all as they are an NAIA school. But if Ferrum gets a key player hurt...if they lose their QB for instance with NCW next week, then they shot themselves in the foot, win or lose. I would rather see them play a DII school than SoVA.  Oh well, its not something I can control.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Rikki_Tikki_Tavi on September 26, 2009, 10:41:47 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 25, 2009, 03:47:46 PM
Really looking forward for Saturday. Will spend most of the day on CNU campus. Football at 1pm. Jeff Foxworthy at 9:30.

85,
   Melinda Waldrop is her name! And she's also covering ODU I think too, so, Ill bet that's why she wasnt at the game last week and they sent a "correspondent" in her place instead. You are right tho, Jen Williams was the best and was always found on campus no matter the time of year. She was great for CNU and the beat coverage has gone south since her "awfulness" has been on the beat.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 26, 2009, 12:37:28 PM
Week 4 picks:

Wilkes                    @      CNU      
Ferrum                   @      Southern VA
Emory & Henry      @     Methodist
Washington & Lee @    Averett
Hampden Sydney   @     Guilford
Lycoming                @    Bridgewater
Randolph Macon    @     Catholic

i'm thinking i might have 2-3 winners right :)

should be a sloppy field for the monarchs and wasps...hopefully reggie scales and cory mcguire can make the best of it...instead of watching the monarchs in the rain, i get to watch my daughter cheer for a rec-league football team in the rain...yeah [/sarcasm]
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 26, 2009, 01:14:59 PM
Ferrum  0

SVU  7


9:26 left in the 1st


9 yard pass for TD
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 26, 2009, 01:18:49 PM
Ferrum  7

SVU  7

9:07 left in the 1st


Mike Vann 47 yard run


Vann goes over 3000 all purpose yards for his career.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 26, 2009, 01:38:17 PM
Ferrum 7

SVU  7

End of First Qtr.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 26, 2009, 01:45:28 PM
Ferrum 7

SVU 14 ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 26, 2009, 01:51:06 PM
Ferrum 14

SVU 14
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 26, 2009, 02:15:09 PM
Ferrum  21

SVU 14


Halftime
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 26, 2009, 03:01:20 PM
Ferrum 21

SVU 21 

5:09  3rd qtr.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 26, 2009, 03:12:48 PM
End of 3rd. Qtr.

FC 21

SVU 21
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 26, 2009, 03:31:55 PM
FC 28

SVU 21


3:38 left in the game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on September 26, 2009, 03:34:50 PM
Final: Averett 14  Washington & Lee 10.  Averett came back from an early 10-0
deficit and shut out W&L in the second half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 26, 2009, 03:46:21 PM
FINAL

Ferrum 28

SVU 21


Glad that's over!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 26, 2009, 09:48:53 PM
Give a Big Up to the captains.  They did not loose the game, coaching lost the game.  Run the ball on the outside.  The captains are faster than Wilkes.  Also there was too much pressure on 19 to throw.  He did good for a first start.  Where was 23?  He did not look hurt.  No. 40 is to slow to run outside but is big enough to run in between the tackles.  I also did not see any nickel or dime packages.  A base 4-3 defense against the pass is no good.  I hope this does not carry over to next week.  Then what I saw was not good.  Wilkes in the middle of the field in a circle getting their swag on after the game.  Keep pounding CNU!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 26, 2009, 10:38:12 PM
red zone woes....the monarchs rack up 385 yards of offense and only turn the ball over once, but score only 3 pts in a 28-3 loss - scales had 18 for 115
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2009, 12:22:24 AM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on September 26, 2009, 09:48:53 PM
Give a Big Up to the captains.  They did not loose the game, coaching lost the game.  Run the ball on the outside.  The captains are faster than Wilkes.  Also there was too much pressure on 19 to throw.  He did good for a first start.  Where was 23?  He did not look hurt.  No. 40 is to slow to run outside but is big enough to run in between the tackles.  I also did not see any nickel or dime packages.  A base 4-3 defense against the pass is no good.  I hope this does not carry over to next week.  Then what I saw was not good.  Wilkes in the middle of the field in a circle getting their swag on after the game.  Keep pounding CNU!

I think CNU QBs have been coached to think that sacks are better than incomplete passes! CNU D was containing Wilkes in first half - until CNU decided to go for it on a 4th down.......then got sacked.....gave Wilkes the ball on CNU half of the field for the first time all game. Field position must not be that important. PUNT!!! Oh Well CNU is 1-2 after playing Wesley, Salisbury, and Wilkes. 1-1 in region with loss to Wesley. Not too bad. Remember CNU only has 7 seniors who saw playing time today (I think that's right - could be 6). Give #19 more time under center and CNU has a guy for the next 4 years! Time for the conference!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 27, 2009, 07:36:05 AM
Hey CNU85 I agree with you.  The third down defense is CNU problem.  No. 19 is the future.  To be sucessful they have to run, run, run the ball.  What was mind boggling is when CNU did not stop on the field, they went straight to the locker room.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 27, 2009, 08:28:51 AM
cnu85, sounds like a pretty good but frustrating game for the captains.  From your and keeping it reals posts it sounds to me that wilkes did exactly what i told you they would from when i saw them play a couple of weeks ago.  they are not big or fast, but they stick to what they do well and take advantage of what the other team gives them.  did ogun play at all?  if not, what is the prognosis?  are they moving the other qb back to defense or is he still injured?  good luck in the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on September 27, 2009, 09:20:01 AM
WOW.  Almost 400 yards of total offense and only 3 points.  MU was in the red zone 6 times and couldn't push it in.  It was obvious what EH's game plan was.  QB or #7 was gonna run the ball 90% of the time.  Stevens (#&7) is a special kid.  Too bad he doesn't have D1 size.  Never watched a kid with that much heart.  Alot of players should take note.  So many reasons MU can't get it done.  Dumb penalties, tipped balls, dropped passes, poor play calling, missed tackles, an elementary defensive package, no team unity, lack of hustle.  This team seems to crumble with first sign of adversity.  Something needs to change.  Players?  Coaches?  Who knows.  The biggest chnage would be in attitude.  MU needs a winners attitude.  It appears they have become accustomed to this destructive cycle they are stuck in.  Who are the team leaders.  Not in stats, but on the field, in the locker room, on the side lines?  Are the MU coaches so controlling that they are not allowing the leaders to emerge or are there just not any leaders on this team?  Has Syphult lost control?  Surely he sees what is going on.  In my  degree program I took a class, Methodology of Instruction.  The biggest one thing I took from that class is that if the whole class fails, then the material provided to the class was insuffecient.  Could that be the case here?  It is extremely painful to watch the Monarchs play at this level.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on September 27, 2009, 09:28:32 AM
Another thought.  It would be easy for someone to try and put Saturdays loss on Teague.  But if you have never lined up behind center, you don't have a clue.  Teague is a gamer.  He scrapps for everything he gets.  He runs the plays given to him.  He doesn't call the plays.  4th and 1.  I want the ball in Teagues hands.  Teague has off days like anyone else.  But on any given Saturday, I'll take 11 Eric Teagues against your 11 and my chances are going to be good.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on September 27, 2009, 10:08:52 AM
I saw Averett play W&L yesterday.  Weather was definitely an issue.  Light drizzle in the first half and steady rain in the second half.  Both teams played well but the weather impacted what they were able to accomplish.  As previously stated W&L went up 10-0 but then Averett dominated the game.  The whole second half was played on W&L's side of the field.  Averett had the opportunity to score at least three more times but stalled between the 20 - 25 yard line.  Weather prevented a field goal attempt.  I don't think W&L crossed mid-field in the second half.  Averett defense was very good in the second half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 27, 2009, 11:11:42 AM
Sorry I missed the Pick ems last week, but was out of the country and no access to computer.
Congrats to all the winners yeaterday! Luckily for me, my Bishops had an open date. maybe with a little luck they worked on consistency and pass defense.

Just a little insight on the Bishops. On offense they start 3 Fr., 2 So.,3 Jr., and 3 Sr.. The defense start 1 Fr., 2 So., 4 Jr., and 4 Sr.  We too are young as is the case with a few other USAC. teams. Should make for an interesting next couple of years if everyone can hang on to what they have and add a few to the mix.

We need to learn to win on the road! Maybe with a little more consistency and experience, we will.

Based upon statistics I saw, both CNU and Methodist outplayed their opponents. Penalties and miscues will always create problems. Both teams, just as the Bishops have done, have had a tendency to dig themselves into a whole.  I like what I saw from the Fr. Quatrterback for CNU. You guys maybe on to something with a little more experience.

Congrats to all!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 27, 2009, 04:57:45 PM
Ferrum wins in a mud fest in Buena Vista. While I had thought Ferrum would win by much more, SVU had a fairly decent team...much stronger than I would have thought. Their QB must be very solid. Their 4 losses before yesterday,had come to 3 DII teams, and one FBS team...they still have another FBS team on their schedule.

I wish FC would take a lesson on scheduling from them. The Panthers need to pick up a stronger non conference schedule, much in the same realm as CNU is doing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 27, 2009, 07:30:10 PM
Just got back in from Danville and see others have commented on the AU game but just had to tip my hat to the AU defense, they were dominating in the 2nd half against W&L. Only allowed 38 yards passing, with 3 pics and gave up 0 yards rushing. Just a great effort.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 27, 2009, 08:40:25 PM
I said it earlier, AU is flying under the radar! Watch out for them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2009, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: musupporter on September 27, 2009, 09:28:32 AM
Another thought.  It would be easy for someone to try and put Saturdays loss on Teague.  But if you have never lined up behind center, you don't have a clue.  Teague is a gamer.  He scrapps for everything he gets.  He runs the plays given to him.  He doesn't call the plays.  4th and 1.  I want the ball in Teagues hands.  Teague has off days like anyone else.  But on any given Saturday, I'll take 11 Eric Teagues against your 11 and my chances are going to be good.
ditto...and he's a great kid and really bright, to boot...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 27, 2009, 10:23:12 PM
First I want to say that Wilkes is not a very good team. Well just not 3-0 good. Were they better than CNU Saturday yep. But that isn't saying much. We handed the game to Wilkes. 3 turnovers all leading to points. 2 interceptions that were run back all the way. One was brought back out to the 30 due to a penalty but still it was sickening. And CNU, whats the deal with the unsportsmanlike conduct. Football is a game of emotions but you have to be able to control yourself. There is no excuse for losing your cool on the field. Anyway, we played like crap, got dumb penalties, didnt execute, turned the ball over way too many times and still after all that. We are still in the game some how. A good team wins by 21 from what I saw. Really sickening.

As for #23 Ogun? He played but didnt have much success. I don't know what the deal is, but I saw something different from him last season.

#19? He can throw the ball well (7-10). But there are clearly some wrinkles left to iron out. 2 picks that were easily avoidable. But that is what film on monday is for.

#7 ? Throw the ball on 4th down!!!!!! DONT TAKE THE SACK. He has good legs but relies on them too much. Leave that to the running backs.

There were some bright spots. But they were overshadowed by sloppy play. CNU the time is now. Shenandoah is next on the list. Conference play is here. How do you want to remember this season? It's time to put the foot down and bust some heads. How will you respond?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 27, 2009, 11:01:12 PM
ogun2k  has misteriously disappeared. He was Ogun's uncle. He has not posted since he stated that Ogun had a torn ACL. Have a feeling he has reappeared as another poster!!! 


CNU85

Any thoughts on Ogun's injury?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2009, 11:04:14 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 27, 2009, 08:28:51 AM
cnu85, sounds like a pretty good but frustrating game for the captains.  From your and keeping it reals posts it sounds to me that wilkes did exactly what i told you they would from when i saw them play a couple of weeks ago.  they are not big or fast, but they stick to what they do well and take advantage of what the other team gives them.  did ogun play at all?  if not, what is the prognosis?  are they moving the other qb back to defense or is he still injured?  good luck in the conference.

Ogun was in the game. Still not seeing him at the level from last year. I have my opinions, but I'm keeping them to myself - cuz I don't really know. QB Long did not dress for the game. That's all I will say.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2009, 11:09:06 PM
Crazylegs - 1 of the two picks on #19 was a tipped ball by a lineman. I'm not sure if that's a QB issue or an O-line issue. Although, there were a few tipped balls at the line....maybe a little more time in the pocket to find the passing lanes will help. I agree with your comment on #7 - 4th down and you're going for it....throw it down field and if it isn't completed you hope for a bonehead play by a defender who intercepts it instead of knocking it down. But don't take a sack and give Wilkes the ball on your side of the field.

And speaking of knocking it down....#19 don't catch your own tipped ball 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage and get tackled....that's the same as a sack....knock it down!!

Isn't the game sooooo easy from the stands???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 27, 2009, 11:14:21 PM
CNU85

I understand and it is such and easy game from the stands I don't understand how teams don't get it all right all the time... I was once chastised for saying it but these players are still kids!!!!  Shjme on them for making mistakes :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 27, 2009, 11:16:51 PM
CNU85

check you're in box
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2009, 11:39:13 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 27, 2009, 11:16:51 PM
CNU85

check you're in box

got it.....replied
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 28, 2009, 08:23:33 AM
Quote from: narch on September 27, 2009, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: musupporter on September 27, 2009, 09:28:32 AM
Another thought.  It would be easy for someone to try and put Saturdays loss on Teague.  But if you have never lined up behind center, you don't have a clue.  Teague is a gamer.  He scrapps for everything he gets.  He runs the plays given to him.  He doesn't call the plays.  4th and 1.  I want the ball in Teagues hands.  Teague has off days like anyone else.  But on any given Saturday, I'll take 11 Eric Teagues against your 11 and my chances are going to be good.
ditto...and he's a great kid and really bright, to boot...

You're right on, Narch! I saw this kid play! You're also right when you say everybody has a bad day occassionally! Happens to everybody once in a while...... :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 28, 2009, 09:31:03 AM
All the talk about CNU needing a taller QB.  2 costly tipped balls thrown by a taller QB.  At some point you just want a football player, not somebody who tells the coach he can't go back in because he bruised his none-throwing elbow.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 28, 2009, 12:14:55 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on September 28, 2009, 09:31:03 AM
All the talk about CNU needing a taller QB.  2 costly tipped balls thrown by a taller QB.  At some point you just want a football player, not somebody who tells the coach he can't go back in because he bruised his none-throwing elbow.

True. I don't remember how many tipped balls I saw this past weekend with a taller QB. I know of three that were not good. The 2 picks and the one where he caught his own ball then was TFL. Coach said after the game that the stinger on his elbow was causing a lack of feeling in his right hand. That could've been disastrous trying take snaps. These types of games are hard to take - key injuries and then the team basically "Plaxicos" itself during the game. Only good news is that it was a non region game (or so I think - the NCAA makes things way too complicated for my tiny brain to figure out).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 28, 2009, 12:28:56 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 27, 2009, 07:30:10 PM
Just got back in from Danville and see others have commented on the AU game but just had to tip my hat to the AU defense, they were dominating in the 2nd half against W&L. Only allowed 38 yards passing, with 3 pics and gave up 0 yards rushing. Just a great effort.

AUPOP,

Sorry, we didn't connect, however I stayed buried under an umbrella with the exception of half time  bathroom break. I agree, the defense was the difference today. I had concerns after the first half. I kept seeing W&L run that option and eating up the yardage. Then...the halftime adjustments were great....Averett stopped them cold. I haven't looked at the stats yet, but I don't think W&L had any net yards in the 4th quarter. Rookie QB has an arm, just needs to get control of it. (Over threw big time on several passes, however could have been the rain) He needs to practice the wet ball routine for about an hour @ day. Running back in second half for Averett looked good. He could find the whole and if it wasn't there he ran to one. Great speed. Looks like kicking game is back on track. I am old fashion and would like to see kickoffs between 8 and goal line (if not in the endzone). Coverage needs work but that will come. Wet fields and driving rain make it hard to really judge.

Will try to make it to the CNU game but not sure. Older son engaged to get married and I have been given my marching orders....."Show Up", "Shut Up" and "Pay Up". I no longer have any say so on the social calendar.

Hey...........UVA didn't loose Saturday. Al is safe for one more week. What a shame....Hate to be Penn State this week in practice. Joe Pa is going to make life hard on them for about 3 days if not longer. Loosing to Iowa twice in a row and getting knocked out of the hunt for title.......unacceptable.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 28, 2009, 12:51:13 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 28, 2009, 12:14:55 PM
[Only good news is that it was a non region game (or so I think - the NCAA makes things way too complicated for my tiny brain to figure out).

Yeah I think Wilkes is out of region so it doesn't really hurt.  Now the only way to get in the playoffs is to win the conference.  So a win would have helped with an outside shot of making the playoffs as an at-large bid.  But now(and maybe even before), only 1 team from the USA South will make the playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 28, 2009, 12:52:28 PM
Week 4 Results:

Allen C                    5-2
Kickerdad                5-2
Proud Fighting Scot 5-2
AUPOP                     5-2
Narch                      4-3
GC Gullett               3-4

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 28, 2009, 12:53:09 PM
Totals for Season through week 4:

Allen C                  15-13
ProudFightingScot 15-13
Kickerdad              15-13
AUPOP                   11-9
Bishop64               11-10
Narch                       8-7
GC Gullett                6-7
Rocket                     4-4
Moshergc9              4-3
Crazylegs33            2-4

If I have missed anyone or added incorrectly, let me know.
Week 5 will be posted shortly.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 28, 2009, 03:06:38 PM
CNU85,

I don't know if the batted INT was a line issue or a QB not getting the ball off quicker. I'm a bit fuzzy. But do I recall several plays where the QB (both 19 and 7) didn't get rid of the ball quick enough. I think it is an age thing. In highschool the kids are slower and they probably had more time to sit in the pocket and figure out what they are going to do with the ball. I dont know.  Either way, they better figure something out soon. Any word on Long?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 28, 2009, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 28, 2009, 12:28:56 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on September 27, 2009, 07:30:10 PM
Just got back in from Danville and see others have commented on the AU game but just had to tip my hat to the AU defense, they were dominating in the 2nd half against W&L. Only allowed 38 yards passing, with 3 pics and gave up 0 yards rushing. Just a great effort.

AUPOP,

Sorry, we didn't connect, however I stayed buried under an umbrella with the exception of half time  bathroom break. I agree, the defense was the difference today. I had concerns after the first half. I kept seeing W&L run that option and eating up the yardage. Then...the halftime adjustments were great....Averett stopped them cold. I haven't looked at the stats yet, but I don't think W&L had any net yards in the 4th quarter. Rookie QB has an arm, just needs to get control of it. (Over threw big time on several passes, however could have been the rain) He needs to practice the wet ball routine for about an hour @ day. Running back in second half for Averett looked good. He could find the whole and if it wasn't there he ran to one. Great speed. Looks like kicking game is back on track. I am old fashion and would like to see kickoffs between 8 and goal line (if not in the endzone). Coverage needs work but that will come. Wet fields and driving rain make it hard to really judge.

Will try to make it to the CNU game but not sure. Older son engaged to get married and I have been given my marching orders....."Show Up", "Shut Up" and "Pay Up". I no longer have any say so on the social calendar.

Hey...........UVA didn't loose Saturday. Al is safe for one more week. What a shame....Hate to be Penn State this week in practice. Joe Pa is going to make life hard on them for about 3 days if not longer. Loosing to Iowa twice in a row and getting knocked out of the hunt for title.......unacceptable.

Not a problem, funny part is I might have been buried in the umbrella next to you. Didn't help, still got wet with the umbrella and rain gear. W&L did eat up some yards but the AU score before the half seemed to take a little starch out of them. I really like that AU came out in the 2nd half with the hurry up offense, seemed to keep the old MO going from the end of the half.. Granted only scored once but they were able to eat some time and make some first downs. Did help the defense by changing the field position. Running back was pretty good, think the o line played better 2nd half a well. They had two new starters ( one was my son) and from watching him he seemed more worried about footing than anything else early on. I would have really like to see the QB with a dry ball cause I thought the pass blocking in the second half was pretty good. He missed some open deep balls but like you said, with the elements it was pretty tough. Coaches did a nice job in the 4th, no need to take chances, I squirmed a bit when they lined up for the long field goal and was quite happy to see the fake it and a short run even if it wasn't a first down. At that point the defense was so dominating there was no need to take the gamble. I would like to see the offense get going sooner. Dont like spotting the lead every game but I think it will come around.

Guess its off to Greensboro next week..... take care. Oh yeah, don't get me started on Al.... far as I am concerned he should have been gone after William and Mary....made the mistake of wearing my UVA hat into Williamsburg day after the game.....not pretty LOL

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 28, 2009, 08:17:13 PM
Sounds like someone got a little bitter about a taller qb.  Got to win the rest.   :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on September 28, 2009, 08:39:34 PM
Shenandoah University vs. CNU ... who wins and why?

SU has had an extra week to make necessary adjustments to get back into the win column after two-straight set backs.  This is a must win game for SU to get back at the .500 mark as they cannot afford to fall to 1-3 with the following remaining on their schedule :

Oct. 10 Maryville (Tenn.)
Oct. 17 @t Methodist 
Oct. 24  Ferrum (Homecoming )
Oct. 31  @ Averett *   
Nov. 7  @ N.C. Wesleyan 
Nov. 14  Greensboro


CNU ... what's their outlook for this weekend?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 29, 2009, 12:06:37 AM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on September 28, 2009, 08:17:13 PM
Sounds like someone got a little bitter about a taller qb.  Got to win the rest.   :D

Unlike you, there are some CNU fans on this board that are with CNU through thick and thin.  Everybody on this board knows you are affiliated with Tunde somehow, so why not come out and say it?  

Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on September 27, 2009, 11:01:12 PM
ogun2k  has misteriously disappeared. He was Ogun's uncle. He has not posted since he stated that Ogun had a torn ACL. Have a feeling he has reappeared as another poster!!!  

You keep mentioning how good #23 looks running the ball and how slow #40 is.  At this point in the season Legister has been a better threat than Tunde.  I know Tunde is the better of the two, but through 3 games, he doesn't have 100 yards rushing on the season.  Like I have previously stated, when he is healthy he will be the All-American back we all remember from last year.  Unfortunately through 3 games he hasn't been healthy.  

As for the QB, everybody who reads this board knows Long is my brother.  And if you don't have respect for a kid who was CNU's best defensive player as a sophomore and moved to QB because the coach told him it was best for the team then so be it.    Maybe you would gain a little respect knowing he broke his hand and separated his shoulder in the Salisbury game, but played through it.  Probably not, though, since you are a temporary CNU fan.  Just some food for thought:

RUSHING  GP  Att  Gain  Loss  Net  Avg   TD  Long  Avg/G  
LEGISTER, Corey  3  45  220  6  214  4.8  1  21  71.3   
LONG, Matt   2  34  149  40  109  3.2  0  20  54.5  
OGUN, Tunde   3  30  76  6  70  2.3  1  8  23.3  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 29, 2009, 03:18:07 PM
Nice stats CNUALUM, but we gotta teach you how to use some HTML and make them pretty. lol.


Rushing     GP     Att     Gain     Loss     Net     Avg     TD     Long     Avg/Gm     
Leggister34522062144.812171.3
Long234149401093.202054.5
Ogun330766702.31823.3




Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 29, 2009, 04:02:43 PM
crazylegs,

Did you get my message?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 29, 2009, 04:06:29 PM
CNUalum - I'd be willing to bet he hurt his shoulder in Dover!!! Which means he played through it the entire game against Salisbury.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 29, 2009, 04:07:23 PM
And I still say Long would have been All-American this year had he stayed on D.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 29, 2009, 04:09:44 PM
Ugh - due to family schedules - I will miss the game this weekend. Oh well - I made up for it by going to Dover.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 29, 2009, 07:11:05 PM
lets go!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on September 29, 2009, 07:25:33 PM
Long's past as a defensive player would explain his drive to hit and a take a hit !!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 29, 2009, 09:40:50 PM
Yeah Baby
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 29, 2009, 10:01:56 PM
You are right about your brother CNUALUM9, he had an outstanding sophomore year at DB.  I know he played well against the Fighting Scots 2 years ago at your place.  Hope he gets well soon....  I think the chase for the conference crown is wide open right now.  No team seems to be very strong at this point of the season.

We will be able to find out what kind of team MC has when we line up against Methodist on Saturday.  We are playing alot of young players.  Opened with a loss against 3-1 Huntingdon, loss against a 4-0 Centre (ranked #33) by 7, and beat LaGrange on the road who went to the 2008 playoffs & returned 19 starters from the playoff team.

Really hate to see Emory & Henry go 4-0 against the USA-South.   E&H won't play Maryville in any sports, men or women.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on September 29, 2009, 10:12:00 PM
I hate the Emory and Henry had such success too.  The only consolation is that it took a score in the last minute in two of the games for E&H to pull out a win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 29, 2009, 10:25:42 PM
So is there a conclusion to be drawn that Ferrum, E&H, and NCW, and fairly equal? If so. then the Ferrum @ NCW game should be close? I am obviously a die hard Panther fan, but have to say that I see NCW winning...maybe not that close at all....I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 30, 2009, 08:20:28 AM
I agree with fighting scout
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 30, 2009, 10:47:06 AM
When I was a Scouts, Fighting was not allowed.... :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 30, 2009, 10:51:43 AM
Can someone post the address to the Stadium that NCW plays at? I will be making the trip, but understand they do not play on campus. Address will be a help for my GPS.

Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 30, 2009, 10:58:38 AM
Good comeback allen.  They play on a high school feild.  If you go to their website it will tell you.  Hope that helps.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 30, 2009, 10:59:17 AM
If you go to the NCWC Website and look under facilities you will find directions to the Northern Nash High School Stadium. (known around these parts as "Death Valley)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 30, 2009, 12:34:28 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on September 30, 2009, 10:59:17 AM
If you go to the NCWC Website and look under facilities you will find directions to the Northern Nash High School Stadium. (known around these parts as "Death Valley)

I know they played at Northern Nash last year, but previous years they played at a city owned complex. They went to Northern Nash last year because the city owned stadium's field got messed up from a bad storm and they were going to have to resod the entire field. They may be back at that complex, don't know for sure. But as mentioned it should be on their website.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 30, 2009, 01:03:57 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 30, 2009, 12:34:28 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on September 30, 2009, 10:59:17 AM
If you go to the NCWC Website and look under facilities you will find directions to the Northern Nash High School Stadium. (known around these parts as "Death Valley)

I know they played at Northern Nash last year, but previous years they played at a city owned complex. They went to Northern Nash last year because the city owned stadium's field got messed up from a bad storm and they were going to have to resod the entire field. They may be back at that complex, don't know for sure. But as mentioned it should be on their website.


They absolutely play there. May be playing there for a while. They liked the closeness of the stadium better than the Rocky Mount Athletic Complex so they decided to remain there for a while. (At least for this year)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 30, 2009, 01:46:44 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on September 30, 2009, 01:03:57 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 30, 2009, 12:34:28 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on September 30, 2009, 10:59:17 AM
If you go to the NCWC Website and look under facilities you will find directions to the Northern Nash High School Stadium. (known around these parts as "Death Valley)

I know they played at Northern Nash last year, but previous years they played at a city owned complex. They went to Northern Nash last year because the city owned stadium's field got messed up from a bad storm and they were going to have to resod the entire field. They may be back at that complex, don't know for sure. But as mentioned it should be on their website.


They absolutely play there. May be playing there for a while. They liked the closeness of the stadium better than the Rocky Mount Athletic Complex so they decided to remain there for a while. (At least for this year)

I get turned around everytime I go to Rocky Mount and haven't had the pleasue of seeing the campus. Where exactly is the campus and do they have any fields at all on campus? Any plans to build a stadium on campus? A friend's son went there and played baseball and they said the campus was very nice.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU Dad on September 30, 2009, 02:02:39 PM
The address for the NNFC is 4230 Green Hills Road, Rocky Mount, NC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 30, 2009, 02:11:16 PM
The Campus is located on wesleyan Blvd (Old 301Hwy North of Rocky Mount. If you are coming down I 95 get off at the Gold Rock Exit and follow that straight in. The Campus will be on your right about 5 miles from the exit. Yes, they have a nice Baseball field, Soccer field and Ladies SoftBall Field. The Football practive field is next to the Ladies Softball Field. You have to turn into the campus and follow the road all the way around to see the field. They are located on the back side of the field.

Money is the reason they have no field at this point. They have plenty of room for the Stadium.They would like a stadium as soon as possible. If you are not coming down I 95 let me know which direction you will be coming from and I will instruct you how to get there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 30, 2009, 02:32:49 PM
Week 5 Pick-Ems for USA South

Some of the games this week look like they could decide the rest of the season for some teams. Really tough week for everyone. Here goes:

Shenandoah     @     Christopher Newport

Ferrum             @     NCWC

Averett            @     Greensbora

Methodist        @     Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 30, 2009, 02:37:11 PM
Shenandoah     @     Christopher Newport
Ferrum             @     NCWC (Because we are Home)
Averett            @    Greensbora

Methodist        @     Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 30, 2009, 02:44:14 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on September 29, 2009, 03:18:07 PM
Nice stats CNUALUM, but we gotta teach you how to use some HTML and make them pretty. lol.


Rushing     GP     Att     Gain     Loss     Net     Avg     TD     Long     Avg/Gm     
Leggister34522062144.812171.3
Long234149401093.202054.5
Ogun330766702.31823.3






Crazylegs33,

Explain to me how to make everything line up. Right now when I do the stats for Pickem it looks like I have been drinking Wild Turkey all night and followed a Goat Path home.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WaspsOG57 on September 30, 2009, 03:15:20 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on September 29, 2009, 10:01:56 PM

Really hate to see Emory & Henry go 4-0 against the USA-South.   E&H won't play Maryville in any sports, men or women.

Sorry you had to see E&H go 4-0 against the USA-South, I sure enjoyed it though. I just wanted to point out that you were incorrect about us playing Maryville, according to your school's website, look at Feb. 26. http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/schedule-softball.asp?sportNameID=8&sy=8

I know this is softball and was last year, but just wanted to point out we played Maryville in something. Dont know why we dont play each other in anything else; next year I believe we are dropping Greensboro and adding UVA Wise, as many people in the region wanted to see a matchup between the two schools, although I would rather play another D3 or USA-South opponent like Greensboro or Maryville.

I think the toughest team we have played to this point was Greensboro(Not to take anything away from Ferrum or NCWC as they both took us to the wire and we have lost either game), it seemed as if Greensboro matched up well with us and the Thorpe kid is very good. Our defense made some excellent plays as well with three TDs, so that game was a lot closer than the score.

Anyhow, good luck to all the rest of the season, looks like the USA-South is going to be a dog fight.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 30, 2009, 03:34:42 PM
Thanks to everyone for the stadium address...64, being on the road did not seem to matter last year at Ferrum....Drove all the way from Williamsburg for that one...

Here are my picks-


Shenandoah     @     Christopher Newport

Ferrum             @     NCWC    (Very reluctantly)

Averett            @     Greensbora

Methodist        @     Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: waspermike on September 30, 2009, 05:47:27 PM
Quote from: HSC85 on September 29, 2009, 10:12:00 PM
I hate the Emory and Henry had such success too.  The only consolation is that it took a score in the last minute in two of the games for E&H to pull out a win.

There are several stats that you won't find printed. These include: Heart, Grit, and Desire To Win. If I were able to quantify these traits into stats, I would still come up with E&H 4 - USA South 0. The Waspers have had to deal with some significant injuries this season. In every game, boys in the wings have stepped up and found ways to win. Their Heart, Grit and Desire are the reasons at E&H is 4 -0 against USA South opponents.  Let's let the Conference play begin.  GO WASPS!!

E&H used to play Maryville in football. I think that they were dropped so that more, in state and regional rivalries could occur. HOw are the Scots doing this year? From the school web site, I saw 1 -2. I am not sure if the info is up to date.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on September 30, 2009, 06:51:19 PM
CNU
NCWC
AU      ( rain, again)
Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 30, 2009, 09:38:39 PM
Musupporter,
The season is a marathon, not a sprint. MU has looked much better than the 2-8 team I watched last year. They lost to two quality opponents, and they were in good position to win against CU and E&H. This is still a very young team so be patient. You questioned the coaches, players, and leadership and then turn around and praise Teague. You can't have it both ways. I think Teague has done a great job of leading his team, and I think the coaching staff understands they have a talented team. I talked to a couple coaches after the game Saturday, and I think they have a good grasp of what is going on. I really feel we will start to see this team learn how to win some of these games they are giving away. This team is one big game away from gaining some confidence and making a run in this conference. Methodist was never going undefeated, but they are now battle tested and ready for a good run.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 30, 2009, 10:01:21 PM
Thanks for your posts WaspsOG57 & waspermike. Congrats on E&H 4-0 start on the season.  Seems like your RB is the real deal.

According to the older MC alums, the MC/E&H games were always hard fought battles over the years.  I'm glad it was pointed out that we still play in softball, but it's a shame that our fans don't get to see us play in football, baseball, basketball, etc.  I know the MC teams want to get E&H back on all their schedules, but we're not getting any interest from the E&H side.  Considering it's only a 2 hour drive, it's probably the closest opponent for both team (except E&H vs. Ferrum).  Though we haven't played football against each other in almost 10 years, according to the media guide, MC has played E&H 65 times which is still the most than any other opponent.

MC is young, but have played better each week.  Methodist will be a big test this weekend to see how this team has developed this season.

Good luck in the ODAC this season.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 01, 2009, 10:45:14 AM
Wasp0G57 and Waspermike, congrats on the 4-0 start.  One of you summed it up perfectly, Grit.  I can honestly say that #7 is the only player I have seen this year that truly impressed me.  He is a huge reason you guys are 4-0.  Not to take anything away from the rest of the team, but I have watched Stevens almost single handedly beat MU twice.  Last year at EH he ran wild.  This year at MU, he ran wild.  Not because of blown defense, because the kid just doesn't give up on the first contact.  Seriously, if he was 6', he wouldn't be playing D3.  As a defensive back (20 years ago), I would love to see him laying wood from the defensive side.

Anyway, don't pat attention to the haters.  EH is 4-0 for the same reason other teams are.  4 teams couldn't figure out how to beat them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 01, 2009, 12:08:26 PM
Rocket, you are correct.  I questioned leadership and then praised Teague.  My bad.  Teague is a gamer and does a great job.  My opinion remains the same.  Too much talent for what they do. 

Defensively, do you agree or disagree that they run a basic heads up package?  How about a blitz package on obvious passing downs?  How about a blitz just for the heck of it?  What do you think about d-linemen stunting every now and then?  Think that might keep the o-line guessing once in awhile?  Maybe drop an end into coverage and blitz a linebacker.  Something other than the normal look is all I am talking about.

Offensively, if your running the ball down their throats, why not keep doing it until they stop it?  If your killing them on the short pass, why not keep doing it until they stop it?  I understand trying to mix it up, but if it works, keep doing it.

I want them to find a way to win.  Obviously not for me.  My playing days are long gone.  But for those kids, mine included.  I hope you are right.  i hope they are getting battle tested and it will pay off.

I think what would make me feel better as well as other fans of MU, is to see the intensity level pick up.  And what would be great is to see that intensity being generated at the top.  The coaches being fired up leads to the players being fired up.  These kids have to be taught that the game isn't over until it's over.  60 minutes of head cracking.  Every player has 6 days to recover.  But these kids need to be assured that if they give it up on Saturday and get banged up, that they were given every opportunity to win regardless of the score.

I question the coaching because I have watched most of these players for 2 seasons and 3 games.  I know what they can do.  I have seen most of them shine on game day.  I wonder if they are being used appropriately.  It also doesn't help to get inside the 20 six times and only score 3 points.  And that little deal of attempting a field goal on 4th and 1 in the red zone and then going for it on 4th and 7 in the red zone would cause any fan to question the method of the madness.

For the record, I truly like both Syphult and Eavenson.  My son loves them.  I think I know what they can do.  Just wonder why their not doing it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on October 01, 2009, 12:36:06 PM
Just a note of hope for better days.  I have watched a team play heads-up defense for two years.  This year they decided to play much more across the line of scrimmage.  They have had 46 tackles for loss in 4 games.  They have defenders that are three year starters in the current system, but it does seem to make a difference when the defense becomes more aggressive.  The coaches know more than me but the change in results have come with the change in tactics.  Maybe they don't have confidence that the aggressive style will work.  I don't know your current situation.  I was just sharing another experience.

On another note,  I watched the Averett vs W&L game last Saturday and in the first half Averett seemed to be on their heels and W&L ran at will.  The second half Averett became much more aggressive defensively and dominated to win the game.  Again just observation to back up your points.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 01, 2009, 12:51:30 PM
Here are my picks-


Shenandoah     @     Christopher Newport    -    SU is tough on Defense & CNU needs to put it together on OFF.  Still CNU is top dog in confernece until someone knocks them off.

Ferrum             @     NCWC    -    Tossup game with NCWC being at home

Averett          @     Greensboro    -    Averett in a close win, but Greensboro has really improved with new staff.

Methodist        @     Maryville    -    MC finds a way to win against a senior dominated offensive unit.

 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 01, 2009, 02:14:23 PM
HSC85, thanks for the response.  I don't want to come across as a coach basher.  These guys are coaches for a reason and Syphult, who has been doing it for a long time has hired them all.  That says alot about their ability and character. 

I honestly believe the success of any offense is directly related to the success of the defense.  I know.  You offensive guys see it the other way :D.  I just want  to see this team succeed and I think they can beat any team in the league if they get focused and aggressive.

I am not beating down anyone on the coaching staff.  Just wonder if they see what we see.  Thats all.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WaspsOG57 on October 01, 2009, 02:22:31 PM
Quote from: musupporter on October 01, 2009, 10:45:14 AM
Wasp0G57 and Waspermike, congrats on the 4-0 start.  One of you summed it up perfectly, Grit.  I can honestly say that #7 is the only player I have seen this year that truly impressed me.  He is a huge reason you guys are 4-0.  Not to take anything away from the rest of the team, but I have watched Stevens almost single handedly beat MU twice.  Last year at EH he ran wild.  This year at MU, he ran wild.  Not because of blown defense, because the kid just doesn't give up on the first contact.  Seriously, if he was 6', he wouldn't be playing D3.  As a defensive back (20 years ago), I would love to see him laying wood from the defensive side.

Anyway, don't pat attention to the haters.  EH is 4-0 for the same reason other teams are.  4 teams couldn't figure out how to beat them.

Thanks for the comments MUsupporter. Not sure who Stevens is, but the #7 you're referring to is Caleb Jennings. I blocked for him last year in my senior season. The kid is a beast and full of heart, even in practice. Being a former O-lineman I have to give credit to the O-Line which has been hit with injuries lately, two starters were missing from the Methodist game and half of the NCWC game and the replacements have played well, but everybody has injuries. You are right though, he has singlehandedly beaten several teams over the past few years, the kid is really just amazing to watch. Knowing you have him back there is a great feeling. The old cliche is true with him, he can literally take it to the house on any given play. You will get to see him again next year if you make the trip to E&H as he is only a junior.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: USASOUTH GURU on October 01, 2009, 04:15:49 PM
Ok I've been associated with this conference for a longtime and have followed this board for years. This is my first post. I have followed the discussion of MU Supporter and others as to MU's early season struggles. Lets clear a few things up.

1. MU's Defensive scheme is not basic. That staff puts in more hours than most. I can assure you of that.
2. We must consider the fact that you have first year starters at Linebacker. There is a reason that there is a new LB coach at Methodist.
3. Questioning Coaches...... Jim Sypult has forgot more football than most people on this board will ever know. If you are a true supporter of the program you will support the players and coaches. What good as a parent does it do to bash the coaches on the internet. This staff is dedicated and works their butt off. most in the office by 5AM and not leaving until 8 at night.

It is very disappointing to read these things on hear.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2009, 06:07:35 PM
Let's see if grammar king narch surfaces on this one!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: USASOUTH GURU on October 01, 2009, 06:35:59 PM
I'll be more than happy to let him grammer check it. He just should not do it during business hours. MU admin may frown upon that.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 01, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
USAGURU, slow down babe.  Didn't mean to step on any toes.  Thank you for being a supporter, tried and true.  Let me clear up a couple things.

First, no one has bashed a coach.  No one is calling for their jobs or even thinking of that. I have'nt even said the coaches are doing a poor job.  But, without a doubt, in the EH game, there was some questionable play calling.  Trust me, if you were there you would know that to be the truth.  That is all that was discussed, questionable play calling and a desire to see some fire in this team from the top down.  If that was interpreted as attacking the coaching staff, that was not my intent.

Second, I know what hours those coaches put in and, I am assuming, not for the kind of pay coaches in larger programs are accustomed to.  Those coaches are there for the same reason most of the players who play on non-scholarship teams are there for - Love of the game.

Third, you may some new starters at linebacker but I don't recall mentioning a problem with the linebacking group.  In discussion I merely suggested running a blitz package on obvious passing downs.  That has nothing to do with being freshmen or 5th year seniors.  For the record, I have been impressed with the linebackers to this point. Defensively, all four starters on the line are back as well as the second team line from last year.  Your free safety moved there from linebacker, and you have 4 others with extensive playing time last year.

You cannot deny that with a group as talented as this, something is missing.  I simply wonder what it is.

Trust me, I am not bashing anyone.  Just questioning the current situation.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 01, 2009, 07:48:28 PM
That's what I do is question, but I guess that is wrong?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: USASOUTH GURU on October 01, 2009, 08:22:51 PM
Quote from: musupporter on October 01, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
USAGURU, slow down babe.  Didn't mean to step on any toes.  Thank you for being a supporter, tried and true.  Let me clear up a couple things.

First, no one has bashed a coach.  No one is calling for their jobs or even thinking of that. I have'nt even said the coaches are doing a poor job.  But, without a doubt, in the EH game, there was some questionable play calling.  Trust me, if you were there you would know that to be the truth.  That is all that was discussed, questionable play calling and a desire to see some fire in this team from the top down.  If that was interpreted as attacking the coaching staff, that was not my intent.

Second, I know what hours those coaches put in and, I am assuming, not for the kind of pay coaches in larger programs are accustomed to.  Those coaches are there for the same reason most of the players who play on non-scholarship teams are there for - Love of the game.

Third, you may some new starters at linebacker but I don't recall mentioning a problem with the linebacking group.  In discussion I merely suggested running a blitz package on obvious passing downs.  That has nothing to do with being freshmen or 5th year seniors.  For the record, I have been impressed with the linebackers to this point. Defensively, all four starters on the line are back as well as the second team line from last year.  Your free safety moved there from linebacker, and you have 4 others with extensive playing time last year.

You cannot deny that with a group as talented as this, something is missing.  I simply wonder what it is.

Trust me, I am not bashing anyone.  Just questioning the current situation.


What is to question, to come on here and say this stuff is basically saying you don't trust the coaches.

Lets be honest this is not the most talented team in the USA SOUTH. I know you have a son playing for them and that is all the more reason not to be online saying this. This is a program that was 2-8 last year. They have already defeated a team they lost to last year. The one thing you must remember is that you can't do too much. You can say you want blitzing and ends dropping, but what you are not realizing is that its just not that easy. Yes you are playing young kids and they can not handle that much. Plus to do all of these things you have to practice all of it. I have coached at this level for a long time and doing too much will kill you. The one coaching philosophy we must remember is it that its better to be great at a little than average at alot. If you start blitzing can you cover man to man? Yes there are alot of players returning, but we must remember that the kitchen cabinents were not exactly full.

There are strides being made from last season. The running game has improved and sacks are down. Look at the positives. Remember it is not about the X's and O's once the game starts it is about the Johnny's and Joe's. You can sleep well knowing that the Monarchs will be well prepared just like they always are. It just blows my mind that a parent can come on a site like this and question  a program his son is a part of. Especially after all they have done to help your son as much as they have through his college career.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: USASOUTH GURU on October 01, 2009, 08:37:04 PM
Quote from: musupporter on September 27, 2009, 09:20:01 AM
WOW.  Almost 400 yards of total offense and only 3 points.  MU was in the red zone 6 times and couldn't push it in.  It was obvious what EH's game plan was.  QB or #7 was gonna run the ball 90% of the time.  Stevens (#&7) is a special kid.  Too bad he doesn't have D1 size.  Never watched a kid with that much heart.  Alot of players should take note.  So many reasons MU can't get it done.  Dumb penalties, tipped balls, dropped passes, poor play calling, missed tackles, an elementary defensive package, no team unity, lack of hustle.  This team seems to crumble with first sign of adversity.  Something needs to change.  Players?  Coaches?  Who knows.  The biggest chnage would be in attitude.  MU needs a winners attitude.  It appears they have become accustomed to this destructive cycle they are stuck in.  Who are the team leaders.  Not in stats, but on the field, in the locker room, on the side lines?  Are the MU coaches so controlling that they are not allowing the leaders to emerge or are there just not any leaders on this team?  Has Syphult lost control?  Surely he sees what is going on.  In my  degree program I took a class, Methodology of Instruction.  The biggest one thing I took from that class is that if the whole class fails, then the material provided to the class was insuffecient.  Could that be the case here?  It is extremely painful to watch the Monarchs play at this level.

What part of this is not calling out  or bashing the coaches. Read what you wrote.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 01, 2009, 09:42:28 PM
gotta love the mu talk, grammatically correct or not...since guru isn't a methodist grad, i'll let him slide a bit :)

as a fan, i'm somewhere in the middle of guru and supporter...like any fan, i get frustrated on game day with play calling, clock management, discipline, etc. (especially when things don't go well...winning cures all:)) but i also understand that those coaches and players leave it all on the field and then some - i try to refrain from calling out coaches or players when possible, but isn't that exactly what internet message boards are for?

bottom line...you're both right...the monarchs aren't the most talented team in the conference and it's very frustrating to watch a team that has some talent move up and down the field (1st half @ campbell, entire game vs. ehc,) and fail to win (or win a nail-biter, as they did vs. guilford)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 01, 2009, 09:52:52 PM
USA South Guru.  You are correct.  Probably could have held my tongue and let it go.  Competetive nature just won't let me do it.  To anyone I have offended, I apologize.

I fully understand what MU and its coaches do for the players.  They do go out of the way to make sure our sons are succeeding in the classroom first, community second, and athletics last.  Trust me. I appreciate that.  It is the reason we attend MU.  Especially Jim Sypult and Dave Eavenson.

Fact is this.  It was questioning Saturdays game.  It was not intended to question the MU program. Sorry for the confusion.  Along with some of the not so positive things you pointed out, you failed to point out the positives that I included in other posts.  MU has improved in many areas.  You are right about one thing, they were 2-8 last year and have beaten a team they lost to last year.(They also lost to a team they beat last year)  But it is primarily the same team from last year with more experience under their belt.  It is exactly the same offense and at least 6 returning starters on defense.  I think it is fair to expect more than a 1-2 record at this point.

With all that said, guess what I am doing tomorrow.  Packing up and heading to Tennessee to support the MU Monarchs.

Again, i apologize for speaking without considering all angles.

Go Monarchs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 01, 2009, 09:54:50 PM
I agree with Narch.  All fans get frustrated with coaches and players in all levels of sports.  NFL, NBA, CFL, MLB.  It happens.  Some people are just thined skinned.  No harm it's just an opinion.  You sit up in stands and listen to fans and they feel the same way you do.  It's frustration more than anything else.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 01, 2009, 10:04:33 PM
Narch, thanks for the understanding.  I think I may have been a little harsh and that led to a little mis understanding.  I just want to see the level of play pick up.  Man I love football and football coaches at this level.  Kids playing for the pure love of the game and coaches doing what coaches do for what I assume is pay less glamerous than our friends in the bigger divisions.  I just get a little wound up when I know things can be better.  Mith the exception of the second half at Campbell, (speaking of Campbell, what a huge offensive line) MU has dominated the offensive stats and played respectable defense for the most part.  But according to the stats, MU should be 2-1.  The reason they are not is not one little thing.  Its a combination of all those little things I was so upset about.  

I am pulling for those guys every Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: USASOUTH GURU on October 01, 2009, 10:07:10 PM
Quote from: musupporter on October 01, 2009, 09:52:52 PM
USA South Guru.  You are correct.  Probably could have held my tongue and let it go.  Competetive nature just won't let me do it.  To anyone I have offended, I apologize.

I fully understand what MU and its coaches do for the players.  They do go out of the way to make sure our sons are succeeding in the classroom first, community second, and athletics last.  Trust me. I appreciate that.  It is the reason we attend MU.  Especially Jim Sypult and Dave Eavenson.

Fact is this.  It was questioning Saturdays game.  It was not intended to question the MU program. Sorry for the confusion.  Along with some of the not so positive things you pointed out, you failed to point out the positives that I included in other posts.  MU has improved in many areas.  You are right about one thing, they were 2-8 last year and have beaten a team they lost to last year.(They also lost to a team they beat last year)  But it is primarily the same team from last year with more experience under their belt.  It is exactly the same offense and at least 6 returning starters on defense.  I think it is fair to expect more than a 1-2 record at this point.

With all that said, guess what I am doing tomorrow.  Packing up and heading to Tennessee to support the MU Monarchs.

Again, i apologize for speaking without considering all angles.

Go Monarchs

Apology accepted! last thing is that you have to remember that Campbell is a 1AA program with a full spring practice in pads. It was no surprise that they got alot better in a year to me. Enyjoy the smokey mountains.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 01, 2009, 10:09:16 PM
WaspsOG57, I meant Jennings.  Stevens is #52 on the DL.  His family sat in front of us at the game and I had his name on the brain.

No offense to the O-linemen intended.  I know without the meat up front, nobody's going anywhere ;D.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: USASOUTH GURU on October 01, 2009, 10:10:10 PM
Quote from: musupporter on October 01, 2009, 10:04:33 PM
Narch, thanks for the understanding.  I think I may have been a little harsh and that led to a little mis understanding.  I just want to see the level of play pick up.  Man I love football and football coaches at this level.  Kids playing for the pure love of the game and coaches doing what coaches do for what I assume is pay less glamerous than our friends in the bigger divisions.  I just get a little wound up when I know things can be better.  Mith the exception of the second half at Campbell, (speaking of Campbell, what a huge offensive line) MU has dominated the offensive stats and played respectable defense for the most part.  But according to the stats, MU should be 2-1.  The reason they are not is not one little thing.  Its a combination of all those little things I was so upset about.  

I am pulling for those guys every Saturday.


Coaches at this level don't make much. On average less than an entry level teacher at a high school
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2009, 10:30:12 PM
Not head coaches.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: USASOUTH GURU on October 02, 2009, 08:51:53 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2009, 10:30:12 PM
Not head coaches.
Head Coaches do make more, but the assistants work for peanuts, believe me I know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 02, 2009, 09:38:55 AM
I've enjoyed reading your comments ... even the non sequiturs.  Message boards do allow fans, foes and drive-by "shouters" to present their views even if, occasionally, they may be worth less than the proverbial "two-cents".   "Bounty" is in the "I" of the "pen holder"!

Grammar?  So little time, so many dangling participles ... or was that doodling principals?  "I criticized the coach writing on this board."  My team's football season will probably be over around 4 pm on November 14, so this fills the void.  Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 02, 2009, 02:20:10 PM
Quote from: USASOUTH GURU on October 01, 2009, 08:22:51 PM
Quote from: musupporter on October 01, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
USAGURU, slow down babe.  Didn't mean to step on any toes.  Thank you for being a supporter, tried and true.  Let me clear up a couple things.

First, no one has bashed a coach.  No one is calling for their jobs or even thinking of that. I have'nt even said the coaches are doing a poor job.  But, without a doubt, in the EH game, there was some questionable play calling.  Trust me, if you were there you would know that to be the truth.  That is all that was discussed, questionable play calling and a desire to see some fire in this team from the top down.  If that was interpreted as attacking the coaching staff, that was not my intent.

Second, I know what hours those coaches put in and, I am assuming, not for the kind of pay coaches in larger programs are accustomed to.  Those coaches are there for the same reason most of the players who play on non-scholarship teams are there for - Love of the game.

Third, you may some new starters at linebacker but I don't recall mentioning a problem with the linebacking group.  In discussion I merely suggested running a blitz package on obvious passing downs.  That has nothing to do with being freshmen or 5th year seniors.  For the record, I have been impressed with the linebackers to this point. Defensively, all four starters on the line are back as well as the second team line from last year.  Your free safety moved there from linebacker, and you have 4 others with extensive playing time last year.

You cannot deny that with a group as talented as this, something is missing.  I simply wonder what it is.

Trust me, I am not bashing anyone.  Just questioning the current situation.


What is to question, to come on here and say this stuff is basically saying you don't trust the coaches.

Lets be honest this is not the most talented team in the USA SOUTH. I know you have a son playing for them and that is all the more reason not to be online saying this. This is a program that was 2-8 last year. They have already defeated a team they lost to last year. The one thing you must remember is that you can't do too much. You can say you want blitzing and ends dropping, but what you are not realizing is that its just not that easy. Yes you are playing young kids and they can not handle that much. Plus to do all of these things you have to practice all of it. I have coached at this level for a long time and doing too much will kill you. The one coaching philosophy we must remember is it that its better to be great at a little than average at alot. If you start blitzing can you cover man to man? Yes there are alot of players returning, but we must remember that the kitchen cabinents were not exactly full.

There are strides being made from last season. The running game has improved and sacks are down. Look at the positives. Remember it is not about the X's and O's once the game starts it is about the Johnny's and Joe's. You can sleep well knowing that the Monarchs will be well prepared just like they always are. It just blows my mind that a parent can come on a site like this and question  a program his son is a part of. Especially after all they have done to help your son as much as they have through his college career.




To All,

He is 100% correct. I leaned my lesson the hard way as well. Only in my case I was critical of my son's performance on the board.  You have to be very careful what you say and how you say it on these boards. Everyone from players, coaches and administration folks read this stuff.

To USASOUTH GURU, long time no see, hope you and the family are well and things are going good for you. Hows the baby? Chris graduated and is now working for an orthopedic surgeon's physical therapy office. Getting ready to enroll for his masters at Old Dominion or going to EVMS and work towards being a surgical assistant.

Went to homecoming last week and saw lots of old faces. Good luck the rest of the season and tell your bride hello.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 02, 2009, 02:23:54 PM
Shenandoah     @     Christopher Newport

Ferrum             @    NCWC

Averett              @     Greensboro

Methodist        @    Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2009, 10:21:16 PM
Shenandoah     @     Christopher Newport - this one will be closer than most think

Ferrum              @    NCWC - the panthers in a mild upset

Averett              @     Greensboro - cougars by 20

Methodist         @    Maryville - the numbers suggest that the  monarchs should lose, but that's exactly why the monarchs will win in this wacky series
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 03, 2009, 11:40:21 AM






Shenandoah@CNUCNU doesn't lose home conference games (2 losses in past 8 years, 1 in last 7 years)
Ferrum     @NCWCNCWC has too much speed and speed destroys that option attack of Ferrum's
Averett@Greensboro     Greensboro puts it together for the surprise win
Methodist     @     MaryvilleHome field advantage makes it a sweep for the home teams this week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 03, 2009, 05:41:34 PM
The Captains went into cardiac arrest for the second time in 3 weeks. Once again a CNU came away with a tense overtime victory. Although we got the win, I'm not sold yet. CNU showed championship type flashes, but never found a rythm on offense after the 1st quarter.


Question. Can you take a personal foul for a TD celebration and assess it on the kickoff? If so, what about overtime? Can you apply it to the starting position for the next team's offense?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 03, 2009, 07:42:05 PM
looks like m'ville/mu was worth the price of admissions...4 ot's and the monarchs come up short...great effort on the road, though...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bomberzalum on October 03, 2009, 07:57:49 PM
Crazylegs,
Here's what I got after looking at the play-by-play stats...After SU scored their TD in the first OT, an unsportsmanlike foul was called on SU.  By rule, since it was OT and the penalty occured before the PAT, that penalty could only be enforced on the PAT.  FYI, if that happened during regulation play, CNU could have had it enforced on the kickoff.  In OT, no kickoffs, so the PAT was from the 18.

Then, on the PAT from the 18, CNU was called for a personal foul.  Personal fouls on PATs can be carried over to the kickoff OR the succeeding spot in OT, hence CNU started its possession at the 40 instead of the 25.

The zebras got it right.  Hope that helps...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 03, 2009, 08:43:21 PM
2 OTs at home to beat SU? Really?   :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 03, 2009, 11:10:39 PM
Just want to let everyone know that I witnessed one of the most exciting and tense football game with the battle between Maryville and Methodist.  MC jumped to a 17-0 lead early in the second quarter and had several opportunities to put Methodist away but failed with a 1st & Goal situation without scoring any points and having a short FG blocked in the second quarter. 

By not putting Methodist away early, it gave the Monarchs an opening to get back into the game.  The Monarchs scored late in the second quarter.  MC's offense couldn't get anything going in the second half and MC lead 17-7 with 5 minutes left in the game. 

The officiating was terrible for most of the game.  MC was flagged for an unnecesary hit by their safety on a 3 & 17 and were called for 2 pass interference on Methodist scoring drive.  Methodist lined up for an onside kick with 2 minutes left.  The kick hit a Methodist player before it went 10 yards, but the officials gave the ball to Methodist.  Methodist tied the score with 5 seconds left in the game. 

The 4 OT's were like 2 heavyweights standing in the middle of the ring  - slugging it out.  In the 3rd OT, MC kicked a FG but Methodist opened up their series with a pass down to the MC 1 yard line.  MC had a fantastic goalline stand and force Methodist to kick a FG.  MC won it in the 4th OT by scoring a TD first and preventing a score by Methodist to win the game.

Fans of both teams should be extremely proud of the way each team played the game.  I've noticed alot of talk on the posts this week by several Methodist fans some positive and some negative towards their team.  I thought Sypault's coaching staff did a great job holding the team together and settling them down early in the game to allow the to get back into the game and tie the score at the end of regulation time.  I also think the coaching staff should use their freshman backup quarterback alot more in their offense schemes.  There was a dramatic difference offensively when he was in the game.

Finally, congrats to the Fighting Scot to find a way to win the game.  Chewning and Caylor was awesome at linebacker.  Christy is a very physcial safety.  We need to learn from this game by not being able to put away a team early.  Learning lessons with a young football team could lead to an exciting season for the Fighting Scots.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 03, 2009, 11:24:42 PM
CNU85,

It was pretty bad. We had success moving the ball in the 1st quarter and came away with 2 FG's but after that it was pretty blah. We had one big pass play that connected for 6. Shenandoah muffed a punt inside their 20 that set up and easy 2nd TD. But no real drives.

To top it off, Shenandoah got into FG range with nearly no time left. Seemingly done for, my Dad started his way to the car. I of course stayed because I knew something that Shenandoah did not. CNU has an All-American that they forgot about. The 12th man. Shenandoah was kicking into the crazy, drunk, loud student and band section of the field. Sure enough, with the stadium rocking we came up with the block and sent it to overtime.

Game ball has to go to the 12th man. Shenandoah didn't make one kick from that side of the field. 2 missed fieldgoals and an extra point if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 04, 2009, 08:12:46 AM
AU 28 Greensboro 17, game of two halfs. AU did pretty much what ever they wanted in the first half but then Greensboro clamped down in the 2nd. Both Defense played tough and limited the scoring in the second half. Both defense scored on turnovers. Greensboro shot itself in the foot several times with personal foul penalties and not to be out down AU joined the penalty parade in the 2nd half. Game got a little chippy at times and the refs seemed to throw the flag if it even looked close to a personal foul.

Greensboro seems to have all the makings of a good team. They are very physical on both sides of the ball and Thorpe ( hope thats right) is a pure stud. If Greensboro can eliminate the silly stuff they will beat some teams and could spoil someones season.

Next up CNU, looking forward to the game. Should be a good one.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 04, 2009, 12:05:17 PM
AU Pop - it was a game of 2 halves but primarily because of AU's play calling.  In the first half, AU used the pass to set up the run (10 - 12 for just under a 100 yds) and scored on it's first 3 possessions.  In the second half, as it was 28 - 3 early in the 3rd quarter, AU took the air out of the ball and went to the running game.

The challenge AU has is that it's O line has opportunity to improve its run blocking.  As in the Guilford and W & L games, their running game opens up after the passing game is effective or on obvious passing downs (if you look at the yardage - most of it was gained on "passing" downs).  They have challenges just trying to "grind" it out on the ground.

As for Greensboro - they made a couple of key mistakes/decisions that changed the game.  The first was having to settle for a FG attempt on their opening drive (and missed).  They had AU on their heels with the misdirection runs, etc.  The other key one was not taking the points at the end of the half.  If they kicked the FG it would have made the game 21 - 6 at the half, a 2 possession game which may have been big because when they got it 28 - 17, there was plenty of time remaining in Q4 (28 - 20 could have made a difference in their play calling).

AU contributed to Greensboro closing the gap because 2 critical mistakes, the TD pass that was not intercepted (went thru the AU defenders hands) and the poor punt snap which AU lost 31 yards on and set up the last TD on the short field.

I also noticed that in the 2nd half - many of the players for Greensboro on the field were not the starters.  Was the coach sending a message after the it became 28 - 3?

Overall, AU should be able to play with anyone left on their schedule.  They have a strong defense (small but quick that creates turnovers, +8 now) and a solid passing game with very good wide receivers (could get the TE into the mix).  O line needs to improve its run blocking as well as its specialty teams (particularly long snaps - 2 poor snap this year).

Should be an interesting game against CNU next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 04, 2009, 12:54:12 PM
Narch
sounds like a tough one to chew on
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 04, 2009, 06:14:41 PM
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   What a game.  17-0 and every reason to fold.  MU played like a tesm possesed from the 2nd quarter on and put themselves in a position to win.  Every fan that made the trip was as proud of their team as I can remember.  Hats off to MC.  They fought as hard as any team I have watched this year.  It was definately a game worth watching.

I don't believe I have ever saw a team so dejected after a loss.  They left everything on the field.  Coach Sypult looked like he had just lost his best fried after the game.  You could tell it was tearing him up to have watched his team battle like they did and come up short.

Game ball to the MU defense.  Best effort this year.  I really don't think they could have played any harder.  Coach Goss came with a new look defense with d-linemen dropping into coverage and just an awesome pass rush.  He should be extremely proud of his defensive squad. 

It wasn't a win but it was the most exciting team effort I have witnessed in a long time.  Battle tested for sure.  I think this game went a long way in letting MU realize that they can do it.

To 98% of the fans that came to TN, your support was overwhelming.  Nothing but positive support.  To the other 2%.  Been there, done that.  It won't help.  Positive support is what these kids need.

To all of those getting ready to pounce because of my prior coomments.  Save your breath, I know. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 04, 2009, 10:31:46 PM
Quote from: musupporter on October 04, 2009, 06:14:41 PM.... Coach Sypult looked like he had just lost his best fried after the game.  ... To all of those getting ready to pounce because of my prior coomments.
To heck with the game, I'm just worried about Coach Sypult losing his best fried!  Happened to me once at the State Fair in Raleigh ... I was down to my last $12, splurged on fried chicken and deep-fried Twinkies at the Our Ladies of Perpetual Cholesterol UMC tent, then dropped it all in the midway sawdust while trying to one-arm the ring toss!  I was tearing up too!  :(

All kidding aside, musupporter, sounds like it was a great game and a tough one to lose.  Hopefully, the Monarchs can maintain this intensity through the rest of the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 04, 2009, 11:45:35 PM
Miss the n key one time and see what happens!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 04, 2009, 11:57:03 PM
Always spell check or you will get hammered by the grammar guru.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 05, 2009, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: musupporter on October 04, 2009, 11:45:35 PM
Miss the n key one time and see what happens!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
Just teasing, musupporter.  Trust me, it's happened to me!  This is what happens when your own team is 1-4 ... you have to find something to keep you entertained!  :)  Good luck to the Monarchs. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 05, 2009, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 05, 2009, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: musupporter on October 04, 2009, 11:45:35 PM
Miss the n key one time and see what happens!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
Just teasing, musupporter.  Trust me, it's happened to me!  This is what happens when your own team is 1-4 ... you have to find something to keep you entertained!  :)  Good luck to the Monarchs. 

It is great that there is still some humor to be found.  I know many of us are having a hard time with the way our seasons are going.  But it looks like every team is starting to improve to a point where the games are worth watching.  You know, it just feels better to stay positive.  I can't believe I went down that dark road in earlier posts.  Frustration is a bear to handle.

Good news for all the MU fans though.  I believe our Monarchs have found a little intensity and desire.  Win or lose, I think we may be in for some good football.  Tough teams coming up on the schedule.

Congrats to AU.  Finding a way to get  it done.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 05, 2009, 10:59:44 PM
Here's the package from The Daily Times on the MC MU game

advance: Sypult talks about the odd series
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20091002/SPORTS/310029974 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20091002/SPORTS/310029974)

Game story
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20091004/SPORTS/310049950 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20091004/SPORTS/310049950)

Column
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20091004/SPORTS0104/310049949 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20091004/SPORTS0104/310049949)

Proud Fighting Scot - I'll agree that MU's Travis Murphy looked very good and with a little seasoning may provide some more dynamics to the offense. That said Teague is a fighter and when he was on, he was pretty good. Just wasn't on very often Saturday. Did notice that the Scots played more on pressuring Murphy in OT, which looked to be more effective than it was with Teague.
Thought Chris Shelton did fairly well filling in for Tim Conner when he was knocked out of game. Throwing his first collegiate touchdown pass in first OT, not too shabby.

I'm hoping to see some zoomed in enhancement of the webcast video regarding that onside kick with 2 minutes left in regulation. Unless its one of the angle of vision things it certainly looked like the ball was belly bumped forward after 8 yards to get it to 10 where it was fallen on. But then again on an onside kick the players need to fight for ball not depend on official to see what they do.

The Meat and TATEr package - the wildcat with Darrell Tate - certainly looked like more than a novely. Besides the game winner I think it was almost a quarter of MC's offense between Tate's totes and the other plays run from the package.

Final note check the NCAA stats for third down conversion defense, Scots are No. 2 in the country (8 of 48). Cal Luthern No. 1 at 6 for 38.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 06, 2009, 02:11:30 AM
Do we have the pick ums results?...Not a lot to say about Ferrum this week. I missed the game as I was having my gall bladder removed. Got back to my hospital room from surgery in time to see the live stats and watch Ferrum burn its last timeout...
All of the help with the address for the stadium was appreciated, but did not get to make use of it....maybe next year,...uh year after next I mean!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 06, 2009, 08:32:14 AM
Results for Week 5 Pickems:

Bishop64                    3-1
ProudFightingScott      4-0
AUPOP                       4-0
Allen C                       4-0
Crazyleggs33              3-1
Narch                        2-2
Kickerdad                   4-0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 06, 2009, 08:43:31 AM
Grand Total Results Through Week 5:

Allen C                      19-13
ProudFighting Scott     19-13
Kickerdad                   19-13
AUPOP                       15-9
Bishop64                    14-11
Narch                        10-9
GC Gullett                    6-7
CrazyLeggs33               5-5
Moshergc9                   4-3
Rocket                        4-4

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 06, 2009, 09:32:36 AM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 05, 2009, 10:59:44 PM
Here's the package from The Daily Times on the MC MU game

advance: Sypult talks about the odd series
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20091002/SPORTS/310029974 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20091002/SPORTS/310029974)

Game story
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20091004/SPORTS/310049950 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20091004/SPORTS/310049950)

Column
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20091004/SPORTS0104/310049949 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20091004/SPORTS0104/310049949)

Proud Fighting Scot - I'll agree that MU's Travis Murphy looked very good and with a little seasoning may provide some more dynamics to the offense. That said Teague is a fighter and when he was on, he was pretty good. Just wasn't on very often Saturday. Did notice that the Scots played more on pressuring Murphy in OT, which looked to be more effective than it was with Teague.
Thought Chris Shelton did fairly well filling in for Tim Conner when he was knocked out of game. Throwing his first collegiate touchdown pass in first OT, not too shabby.

I'm hoping to see some zoomed in enhancement of the webcast video regarding that onside kick with 2 minutes left in regulation. Unless its one of the angle of vision things it certainly looked like the ball was belly bumped forward after 8 yards to get it to 10 where it was fallen on. But then again on an onside kick the players need to fight for ball not depend on official to see what they do.

The Meat and TATEr package - the wildcat with Darrell Tate - certainly looked like more than a novely. Besides the game winner I think it was almost a quarter of MC's offense between Tate's totes and the other plays run from the package.

Final note check the NCAA stats for third down conversion defense, Scots are No. 2 in the country (8 of 48). Cal Luthern No. 1 at 6 for 38.

There were a couple questionable calls on both sides in Saturdays game.  I was about 15 yards from the action on the onsides kick and from that angle I can't say one way or the other.  Murphy did a great job considering it was his first action and alot of pressure.  Teague is still my guy and many of us wonder what the outcome would have been if he hadn't pulled his hamstring.  Murphy's youth showed in the final overtime.  He was a little quick to try and run when maybe dropping back and looking would have been a better option.  But you know what?  He got us there and played like a champ.  Kid has a future.

For everyone wondering about Scales.  He suffered a tremendous personal lose less than 2 weeks ago and I am sure he has alot on his mind.  He will return to his early form soon.  Everybody should keep him in their prayers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 06, 2009, 04:04:11 PM
I'll agree with you on that. That kind of personal loss is hard anytime but especially at that age.

Won't disagree about both teams getting some favors from officials either. I'd like to see some consistency on calls in regards to what a receiver can do and what a corner can do. Seemed to change quarter by quarter with that crew.

It looked like Murphy did well in regulation but had trouble picking up the blitz package in OTs. He's definitely got talent and some quickness. Once he learns to look up a little more when he's scrambling he could be really good. From what I saw of the MU  opener and I just scrolled quickly through first half, it looked like Teague had one of those "on" days he's capable of. If he was that way every snap ....

So what's the biggest surprise of the year?
1) Greensboro's improvement at 2-2 under new coach
2) Ogun's season so far.
3) That Maryville leads conf in offense.
OR
4) That the conf seems dead set on OT games this year.

Its not a poll because its meaningless without everyone's why's
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 07, 2009, 01:13:47 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on October 06, 2009, 04:04:11 PM
I'll agree with you on that. That kind of personal loss is hard anytime but especially at that age.

Won't disagree about both teams getting some favors from officials either. I'd like to see some consistency on calls in regards to what a receiver can do and what a corner can do. Seemed to change quarter by quarter with that crew.

It looked like Murphy did well in regulation but had trouble picking up the blitz package in OTs. He's definitely got talent and some quickness. Once he learns to look up a little more when he's scrambling he could be really good. From what I saw of the MU  opener and I just scrolled quickly through first half, it looked like Teague had one of those "on" days he's capable of. If he was that way every snap ....

So what's the biggest surprise of the year?
1) Greensboro's improvement at 2-2 under new coach
2) Ogun's season so far.
3) That Maryville leads conf in offense.
OR
4) That the conf seems dead set on OT games this year.

Its not a poll because its meaningless without everyone's why's

1)  Not a surprise.  Greensboro has a great pool to get players from and always have talent.  Maybe the new coach is what they needed.
2)  Not up to speed on who Ogun is.  Guess I missed him the last 2 years.  According to his support group, it must be a surprise he has produced little.  Earlier post indicate he is hurt.  If he is hurt that bad, maybe sitting out and recovering is his best option.
3)  Not a surprise.  Good upperclassmen leading their offense.  Same boat as MU at times.  Score doesn't reflect the big numbers.
4)  Surprise, surprise, surprise.....What is the record for OT games in a conference in a single year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 07, 2009, 10:05:43 PM
Maryville, TN travels to Winchester to take on the Shenandoah Hornets on Saturday, who wins and why?

SU won everything vs. CNU last weekend but the points on the scoreboard.  I was surprised to see them pass right from the get-go after CNU kicked the FG.  The are making good strides, hopefully it'll result in getting a much needed win for the entire program.  Something must turn around quickly.  A big win Saturday just might propel the hornets into their 1st winning season since 2004 while averaging just 2 wins until 2008 when they got 3 in W column.

How much of an affect will the 8hr trip be on the Scots?  I sure would not want to make that trip to play a football game.  Will the Scots be traveling up on Friday? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2009, 08:08:45 AM
This game is going to be a tough, physical battle between the 2 teams.  MC has the chance to go 2-0 in the conference with a win and has never lost to Shenandoah since joining the conference in 2005.

The 7 hour trip won't affect the Fighting Scots because:
1)  They are use to long trips with the closest conference game being a 5 hour road trip.
2)  2-0 record at Shenandoah.

The team usually leaves Friday morning on the road trips and stops 1/2 way to work out usually at Virginia Tech when they make the road trips in Virginia.

Finally, the game will come down Shenandoah's #2 run offense with RB Keone Kyle averaging 134 yards per game vs. Maryville's #2 run defense with LB Kyle Chewning being just named as the USA-South Defensive Player of the Week and the 2008 conference Defensive Player of the Year.   MC's defense just held Methodist's RB Scales to 58 yards rushing last week who was leading the conference in rushing entering the MC game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 08, 2009, 02:04:06 PM
Week 6 PickEms:

Maryville          @         Shenandoah

Methodist         @         Ferrum

NCWC              @         Greensboro

CNU                 @         Averett

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 08, 2009, 05:30:53 PM
Look for alot of rain Sat in Danville.  Run baby Run!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 08, 2009, 06:23:45 PM
Week 6 PickEms:

Maryville          @         Shenandoah

Methodist         @         Ferrum

NCWC             @         Greensboro

CNU                 @         Averett


My official pick is CNU over Averett, but...I would not be surprised to miss this one.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 08, 2009, 06:28:55 PM
I just saw this story on Facebook...Very Sad News.


http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=3&id=3169
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 08, 2009, 07:12:57 PM
Shenandoah
Ferrum
NCWC
AU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 08, 2009, 07:19:32 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 08, 2009, 06:28:55 PM
I just saw this story on Facebook...Very Sad News.


http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=3&id=3169
My condolences to the Harris family, Maryville College and their friends.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2009, 09:24:21 PM
Thanks Allen C and Hasanova.

The team found out near the end of practice that Russ Harris died in a diving accident of the coast of Sarasota, FL.  Russ is from Venice, FL and was with his father and two other friends.  Russ was an avid outdoorsman and has always scuba dive and free dive since he was a young boy.  While free diving (without an air tank-basically holding your breath), Russ did not return to the boat and was found unconscious under water by his father.  Resesciation attempts failed.

Russ was a tough player, great leader and fan favorite for the Fighting Scots.  He overcame two major injuries.  He broke his leg against Ferrum in 2005 during his first start as a freshman.  Ferrum fans may still remember that injury.  Started every game as a sophomore.  A torn ACL in the first game in 2007 finished Russ during his junior year.  Though injured during 2 of first 3 years at MC, Russ was named captain in 2008 and was second team All-USA South.  Russ was the winner of the 2008 Fighting Scot Award which is Maryville's most prestigious award.

I will forward the followup stories as they appear.  I'm sure batterboard will include a story about Russ this week.

Please pray for Russ and his family during these next few days.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 08, 2009, 10:11:14 PM
Week 6 PickEms:

Maryville          @         Shenandoah (Shenandoah is ticked off)

Methodist          @         Ferrum (Methodist is due)

NCWC               @         Greensboro (Questionable, We haven't won on the road yet)

CNU                 @        Averett (Only because they are at home
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 08, 2009, 10:38:35 PM
Maryville          @         Shenandoah (MC is 4-0 against SU and will be 5-0)

Methodist          @         Ferrum (Will be tough for MU to rebound from a 4 OT loss last week)

NCWC              @         Greensboro (GC getting better, but not enough for this week)

CNU                 @        Averett (Look for a few fights in this game, with CNU prevailing)

 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 09, 2009, 11:28:25 AM
Maryville - sets up big game w/Averett
Ferrum
NCWC - but don't be surprised if Greensboro keeps it close or even wins.  Innovative coach and they are improving
Averett - all depends if they can have a balanced offensive attack.  If weather is a factor it could  hurt them.  CNU has to show it can throw otherwise AU will be able to shutdown the rush.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 09, 2009, 11:46:28 AM
Quote from: Allen C on October 08, 2009, 06:28:55 PM
I just saw this story on Facebook...Very Sad News.


http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=3&id=3169

My prayers to the entire Maryville College family and the family of Russ. I saw this kid (man) play and he was very impressive.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 09, 2009, 11:51:51 AM
Week 6 PickEms:

Maryville          @         Shenandoah Should be a good game, Shenandoah overdue and have home field.

Methodist         @         Ferrum Not sure about this one, Methodist is also overdue

NCWC              @         Greensboro

CNU                 @         Averett


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 09, 2009, 07:11:14 PM
Proud Fighting Scot got it right
Maryville - if they keep the pressure on they will blow out shenandoah. Liek they should have with methodist

Ferrum - Methodist doesnt have the speed to stop ferrums triple option. never has.
NCWC - Sorry greensboro, you will steal one this year but not against NCWC.
CNU - If CNU puts it together they will run away with this one. Otherwise They win in OT again.

PFS, fights during the CNU game? haha what makes you say that? Expecting a tense one?  :-X
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 10, 2009, 05:14:13 PM
At the 1/2 :

(7) Maryville @ (13) Shendandoah

No blow out here!  Good game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 10, 2009, 05:39:48 PM
14-13 Maryville 6 minutes in the 3rd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 10, 2009, 06:00:52 PM
(16) Shenandoah (13) Maryville

... less than 5mins to go in the 4th!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 10, 2009, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on October 09, 2009, 11:28:25 AM
  CNU has to show it can throw otherwise AU will be able to shutdown the rush.

509 rushing yards on 72 attempts. I have to admit even I didn't think CNU would do that as they roll 43-12.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 10, 2009, 06:08:20 PM
SU's punter, Nic Hoover just may have saved the day for the Hornets as a bad snap sailed over his head on his own 20yrd line and somehow got the punt off and it rolled to Maryville's 22yrd.  On MV's 1st play, QB gets hit as he is in the motion of passing and SU intercepts.  SU looking to score and seal the deal ... less than 4mins.

MV's has defensive pass interference called on them in the endzone, gives SU a huge break.

1st and 10 at MV's 20 for SU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 10, 2009, 06:18:07 PM
SU (19) MV (14)

MV returns kickoff to midfield ... less than 2mins.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 10, 2009, 06:19:41 PM
19-14 Shenandoah.  Merry Christmas as they still haven't figured out what offensive pass interference is in the USA South.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 10, 2009, 06:25:37 PM
just wanna say b/f the game is over w/ the MC/SU game... wow what a game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 10, 2009, 06:28:58 PM
TD Maryille 22-19 (got the 2pt. conversion)  18 sec left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 10, 2009, 06:32:34 PM
Maryville Wins!  Awesome game and good comeback!  SU was what they showed last week against CNU.  They are a very good Football team!

Go Scots!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 10, 2009, 06:32:49 PM
Congrats to Maryville.  It was a great game to watch.

As for SU, they are very close, but just not getting over the hump.  The kids played hard again.  Something has to break soon for the Hornets.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 10, 2009, 06:33:46 PM
SU is right there Milby.  Those wins will come.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 10, 2009, 06:56:58 PM
WOW sounds like Maryville and SU went toe to toe, and gave the fans their money's worth.  Ferrum wins over Methodist, but not before the MU qb went wild in the fourth quarter and brought his team to a respectable finish.

It only gets more difficult for the Panthers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 10, 2009, 06:59:08 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 10, 2009, 06:56:58 PM
but not before the MU qb went wild in the fourth quarter

hmmm.... that sounds familiar...  :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 10, 2009, 07:38:12 PM
Good job CNU for the strong performance.  Great job Tunde setting 2 records.  Defense did their job today, and great 4 and 2 call for the fake punt, they never saw it coming.  Big one next week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 10, 2009, 07:45:26 PM
I didn't see CNU game and haven't seen box score yet. Anyone know why CNU scored with 1.8 seconds left in game? That's what the story said on cnusports.com
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 10, 2009, 09:01:02 PM
They put their 3rd string in and just happened to score.  They were just running the time out and Gaines got free.  It was just poor tackeling.  You missed a great performance by the team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 10, 2009, 09:59:23 PM
big game for preston today, albeit too little too late...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 10, 2009, 10:01:54 PM
ferrum 49 - methodist 35

2nd string qb went down in the 1st half.   Teague was out with hamstring injury.  Preston (3rd string??????????) came in and put on an exhibition. Doesn't run as well as Teague or Murphy but has a very live arm. 28 points in the 4th quarter.  Ferrum is very fast offensively.  Not much of a passing attack and runs the triple option so-so.  Methodist exposed their biggest weakness, just a little to late.  For anybody getting ready to play Ferrum, they have a very hard time against the spread offense.  It didn't hurt that MU has a stable of recievers as good as anybody in the USA South.  I think 7 different guys had multiple catches.

MU showed more positive improvement.  Defensively they struggled reading the triple option and the secondary needs some work.  Scales is getting back into his form.  He was really initiating contact and ran well.

What initially looked like a blow out ended up being a respectable game.  When they put it all together, they will be able to compete with most everyone in conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 10, 2009, 10:05:42 PM
Quote from: narch on October 10, 2009, 09:59:23 PM
big game for preston today, albeit too little too late...

Nothing against Murphy but I couldn't understand why Preston was 3rd QB.  Only thin I can figure is that he doesn't run all well as Murphy.  The kid played extremely well considering.  I certainly see him moving back up on the depth chart.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 10, 2009, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: musupporter on October 10, 2009, 10:05:42 PM
Quote from: narch on October 10, 2009, 09:59:23 PM
big game for preston today, albeit too little too late...

Nothing against Murphy but I couldn't understand why Preston was 3rd QB.  Only thin I can figure is that he doesn't run all well as Murphy.  The kid played extremely well considering.  I certainly see him moving back up on the depth chart.
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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 11, 2009, 11:01:33 AM
CNU ran for over 500 yards and stymied Averett's offense to -3 rushing en route to a 43-12 gutting of the cougars.  :o   


NCWC next week. Huge game for the USA South Title race.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 12, 2009, 06:45:41 PM
Should be a huge game, but I think CNU will take care of business....with very little problem.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: flippy on October 13, 2009, 08:30:19 AM
Good Morning. I was hoping that some of you might be able to answer a question for me. I have a nephew that plays at Averret and watched the game this weekend with CNU. CNU is a dominating team, as someone said they gutted the Cougars and there really isnt another way to decribe it. I have quizzed my brother in law on this and he is new to D3 so really couldnt answer, suggested I try some of you.

To pre qualify myself I know nothing about D3 football but do follow the WVIAC at home but that is a D2 conference. I was under the impresson that D3 was made up primarily of small, private schools and players that would have been considered good to very good in high. CNU pretty much blew that theory out the window. I have done a little research and they are not the only state school playing D3 but anyway, here is the question(s).

1. What exactly constitutes a D3 school? Guess what I mean is can any school apply for D3 status regardless of size, public, private etc.
2. How do schools like Averret compete with schools like CNU?  1/2 the cost of tuition and 5 times the size, seems like a monumental task at best.
3. Are there any D2 schools or conferences in VA.? I could not find any, dont know of any but not sure.

CNU is an excellent football team, from what I saw and having watched the WVIAC for many years they could easily compete in that conference. Size, speed, skill wise are very much on the same level. I believe they might even be larger as far as student body than any WVIAC school, exception being possibly Shepherd.

I know it may sound like I am taking a swipe at CNU and thats not the case but I am really having a hard time wrapping my head around the differences between two schools that compete in the same conference. Thanks for any help you can offer.

Zippy.......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2009, 09:16:32 AM
I think Hasanova would be well qualified to answer. Those are very good questions. Of course, we can revisit the previous 512 pages of posts to see all the public vs private debates and what is the true cost of college for a private school athlete...and varying academic standards.....and we all have examples to prove our points of view. I have long given up on the issue and just go watch games. But I trust Hasanova will have very insightful info on these questions.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 13, 2009, 09:22:54 AM
Flippy/Zippy-

I will try to answer some of your question....

2. How do schools like Averret compete with schools like CNU?  1/2 the cost of tuition and 5 times the size, seems like a monumental task at best.
3. Are there any D2 schools or conferences in VA.? I could not find any, dont know of any but not sure.

In the State of Virginia, there are D2 schools. St. Pauls, Virginia Union and Virginia State. They play in the CIAA.

I will say that competing with CNU is a difficult task. They have an excellent program from top to bottom. The public school vs. private school equity question is, in my opinion a fair question, but I don't propose to have the answer...only my opinion.
The USA South is made up of eight schools (football) in three states. TN, VA, and NC. Of these eight schools, 7 of them are private. CNU is the only publicly funded school in the conference in football. (I keep prefacing football as there are other schools in the conference that do not participate in football, and I am not sure of their public/private status)

Does this give the student an advantage? Certainly the  tuition is far less expensive for a State subsidized institution. Can the argument be made for advantages in the athletic programs?  In my opinion it can. Facilities are probably going to be nicer, and budgetary restrictions that are on the smaller private colleges, may be less on a CNU for example. Looking at this year alone, here are some headlines from the USA South .com website:

Christopher Newport Picked to Win 2009 USA South Football Title
Christopher Newport Picked As USA South Preseason Volleyball Favorite
Christopher Newport Picked to Capture USA South Men's Cross Country Title
Christopher Newport Picked as Women's Cross Country Favorite
CNU Men's Soccer Now Second In Nation

I am sure that the spring sports headlines will be very similar.

While these are mostly predictions, they will most all be accurate. Hopefully this will illustrate the difficulties that an Averett has in competing on most all levels in this conference. (Although I think the Cougars had a good hard court season last year!)
And as you might guess, this is a problem that most all conference teams face.

As for the part of your question about what are the parameters for a school to be D3, I will leave that to someone else...Pat, Maybe you should weigh in on this aspect of his questions... I am not familiar with these guidelines.

I hope this helped. I can guarantee, on thing, this will provoke a lot of discussion.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: flippy on October 13, 2009, 10:35:00 AM
Thanks for your response Allen. I take it this has been tossed around a time or two so will apologize in advance if I happen to ask questions that have already been answered somewere down the line. Has there ever been any discussion concerning scholorships for D3 athletes? D2 I believe allows 25 per team, might be wrong there but even 10 or 15 per team at D3 seems like it could really help the smaller schools. Granted just because they have them doesnt mean they could afford to give them out but 2 or 3 even might make a difference.

Does anyone know if CNU has ever considered making the jump to D2?  Seems like it would be the next step for them to continue building thier program.

Thanks again and if anyone can shed light on D3 requirements I would love to hear it.

Thanks again...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 13, 2009, 10:45:08 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 13, 2009, 09:16:32 AM
I think Hasanova would be well qualified to answer. Those are very good questions. Of course, we can revisit the previous 512 pages of posts to see all the public vs private debates and what is the true cost of college for a private school athlete...and varying academic standards.....and we all have examples to prove our points of view. I have long given up on the issue and just go watch games. But I trust Hasanova will have very insightful info on these questions.
Thanks, CNU85.  I'll offer my thoughts on this, but you and others have already chimed in with a lot of good information and opinions as well.

As far as I know, any school of any size and charter can apply to any NCAA classification and there are four for football (IA, IAA, II, III) and three for other sports (I, II, III) ... I know the names have changed for the football classifications, but old habits die hard.  lol

Besides CNU in the USASAC, other notable exceptions to the private school majority in DIII would be the entire Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Association (WIAC).  In my mind, it's not a coincidence that UW-Whitewater is a perennial finalist for football.  There are other state schools in DIII scattered across the USA, but the WIAC stands out.

You have to be approved by the NCAA, of course, and accepted by any conference to which you apply, but all you have to do is agree to abide by the rules of your chosen division.  In the case of DIII, that means no scholarships solely for athletic ability ... ways around this are always "financial need" and "academic merit."  In the case of CNU, it also equates to a heavy "discount" for being a state-supported school with a much larger pool of students.  Trust me, this entire discussion of state versus private has been played out extensively in this forum.

In CNU's case, it also boils down to geography, as they are somewhat isolated on the far eastern side of VA.  If not the USASAC, who do they play?  Sure, there's an argument that they should go DII, but their only viable option might be the CIAA, an Historically Black College and University conference, that spans Virginia and NC.  I'm not saying CNU wouldn't join the CIAA, but I don't think it's their best fit.

On the other end of the college sports spectrum, how does Wake Forest compete in DI?  Granted, they were woeful in football for the longest time, but that's changed due to commitment to the program more than student body size or low tuition.  In DIII, you'd think the championship would normally go to a state school, but it doesn't.  Mt. Union is private, relatively expensive and of average DIII size, so what's their secret?  I'm not sure, but it isn't their tuition!

It's just my opinion, but I think in my lifetime CNU will become big enough to join a mid-major DI conference ... think James Madison, Old Dominion, Richmond, Liberty, Elon, High Point, Wofford as opponents.  That takes money also and the time isn't right.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 13, 2009, 11:08:37 AM
One-fourth of Division III is state schools. It's not a coincidence that there's a state school that's a perennial finalist in football (before UW-Whitewater, Rowan was a frequent visitor to Salem) because mere math suggests it's a 50-50 proposition.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 13, 2009, 11:15:00 AM
For Some Reason, I think Stadium size may prohibit some 1AA schools from competing in 1A.

William and Mary for instance use to compete in the Southern Conference, and was considered on the same level as VA Tech, UVA and even Played Pitt when Dorsett was there. While they still play one 1A school regularly...like UVA this year (Go Tribe!!) they were relegated years ago to 1AA as their stadium would only hold a limited amount of spectators. (@ 12000-13000) I may be wrong on this but I seem to recall there being issues with expanding the stadium and it "fitting in" with the "colonial " atmosphere.

Other than that as a possible factor, I have no idea

Dont know if that same logic could apply to a d3 moving to d2

I also would not be surprised to see a CNU at some point down the road advance to even 1AA status and join the CAA.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 13, 2009, 11:23:40 AM
There are no enrollment requirements or anything of that nature anywhere in the NCAA and the attendance minimum is a D-I FBS (I-A) requirement only.

Schools choose for themselves what division they want to be in. It's that simple. How much money do you want to spend on athletics? That's the question a school needs to ask itself.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 11:40:03 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 11, 2009, 11:01:33 AM
CNU ran for over 500 yards and stymied Averett's offense to -3 rushing en route to a 43-12 gutting of the cougars.  :o   




Damn!!!!! just when you think they had overcome 2007 and were expanding on what was done in 2008, this happens. Didn't get opportunity to go to game or even listen/watch on webcast.......however I can see visions of 2007 from start to finish. Sounds like CNU's running back who supposedly was coming back from a knee injury had his way with the defense.

Noticed from pictures on school's web page Averett came out with new jerseys this past week. Look nice, but could be a bad luck thing....haha

Hopefully, they can find the offense (from where ever they decided to hide) and rebound this weekend.

AUPOP.........were you at the game? What was your take on things?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 11:49:15 AM
Quote from: flippy on October 13, 2009, 08:30:19 AM

How do schools like Averret compete with schools like CNU?  1/2 the cost of tuition and 5 times the size, seems like a monumental task at best.

Zippy.......

Another thing to consider after several winning seasons for CNU is recruitment. Guys coming out of high school (especially in the Hampton Roads/Tidewater Area) don't even consider schools like Averett, Ferrum, Shenandoah, or the ODAC schools, when you have CNU right in their back yard and the "W" column is 5 times the length of the "L" column. That plus lower cost, I would consider to be two of the stronger drawing cards CNU has.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 13, 2009, 12:22:19 PM
Pat's right and I appreciate him adding that 25% of DIII schools are state-supported.  I would have guessed less - maybe 1 in 7.  It is partly a matter of odds ... if 25% of the schools are public, then logically you'd surmise one of the four semifinalist each year should be public.  It is, then, as Pat said, 50-50 that a public school will be in the championship game.  With U-W Whitewater, for example, that's exactly what's happened four years in a row.

Speaking of Rowan, I'm also glad Pat mentioned the Profs.  With apologies to Prince, are they the NJ school formerly known as Glassboro State?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2009, 02:14:15 PM
Another point to mention....at least in the Commonwealth of Va - no college or university, at any level, receives money for athletics from the commonwealth.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 13, 2009, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 11:40:03 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 11, 2009, 11:01:33 AM
CNU ran for over 500 yards and stymied Averett's offense to -3 rushing en route to a 43-12 gutting of the cougars.  :o   




Damn!!!!! just when you think they had overcome 2007 and were expanding on what was done in 2008, this happens. Didn't get opportunity to go to game or even listen/watch on webcast.......however I can see visions of 2007 from start to finish. Sounds like CNU's running back who supposedly was coming back from a knee injury had his way with the defense.

Noticed from pictures on school's web page Averett came out with new jerseys this past week. Look nice, but could be a bad luck thing....haha

Hopefully, they can find the offense (from where ever they decided to hide) and rebound this weekend.

AUPOP.........were you at the game? What was your take on things?

Oh yeah, I was there. Defensively, simply put CNU countered AU's speed with brute force. Ogun ( hope thats right) really should have bought his o line dinner that night. They were making truck size holes and when he hit the line of scrimmage he was already in overdrive, if someone was there he pretty much just ran over them. I was impressed, what can I say. Offensively AU just never got anything started. Had a few short drives but them would bog down. O line had trouble picking up CNU's blitz on passing downs and the DE's from CNU created havoc all day with the running game forcing the ball carrier either back into the middle or to deep to turn the corner. Never were able to use any speed on the edges. CNU played pretty close to a perfect game on both sides of the ball. AU didn't look like the same team from the last 3 weeks. They seemed very flat. Might have been those yellow jerseys, I don't know but think we need to leave them on the shelf for a bit. LOL   Fairly small crowd for such a big game. I am getting the impression though in talking with other parents that is the norm. To bad the field isn't on the main campus, would probably help attendance quite a bit.

Oh well, on to next week and a pretty good road trip.......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 03:49:03 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on October 13, 2009, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 11:40:03 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 11, 2009, 11:01:33 AM
CNU ran for over 500 yards and stymied Averett's offense to -3 rushing en route to a 43-12 gutting of the cougars.  :o   




Damn!!!!! just when you think they had overcome 2007 and were expanding on what was done in 2008, this happens. Didn't get opportunity to go to game or even listen/watch on webcast.......however I can see visions of 2007 from start to finish. Sounds like CNU's running back who supposedly was coming back from a knee injury had his way with the defense.

Noticed from pictures on school's web page Averett came out with new jerseys this past week. Look nice, but could be a bad luck thing....haha

Hopefully, they can find the offense (from where ever they decided to hide) and rebound this weekend.

AUPOP.........were you at the game? What was your take on things?

Fairly small crowd for such a big game. I am getting the impression though in talking with other parents that is the norm. To bad the field isn't on the main campus, would probably help attendance quite a bit.



AUPOP,

For four years I complained (to no avail) about the attendance, support etc., that the University and town of Danville gives to the football team. (I know - win and you will draw a crowd) In 2006 Averett shared the conference title with CNU however it appeared to me that there was only three games with attendance over 1000 that year. Those were the Mount Union game, (everyone wanted to come and see what the number 1 team in the country looked like),  Homecoming and the away game at CNU. The president approved for buses to be charted for the CNU game and the entire visitor side was full. (Most of the crowd cheered but a few just sit there like lumps on a log and read). Mount Union brought a bus load so that helped with that game's attendance. Homecoming as always was a large crowd, at least until halftime was over. Many stayed in the parking lot and continued to party and didn't see any of the game, while others (staff, professors, etc.,) left after the half time activities.

It was like that for four years and appears to be continuing. When my family started tailgaiting from the onset in 2005 there were only 2 other families from Averett that tailgaited. Lots of visitors from opposing team would tailgate but the Averett crowd didn't. The school now tries to have a community tailgate and provides the food, but that isn't even well attended.

There is plenty of room where the field is now to have a nice stadium built. One thing that would help is concessions other than the little rental wagons and bathrooms other than the smelly portables. If you want to go a clean restroom you have to walk a 1/2 mile to the gym. The visiting team has to change in several different rooms where the gym is and they are unable to huddle like a team should, unless they go outside and have to battle the elements and crowd.

Yes there is lots of room for improvement..(last time I was there this year and in 2008 the PA system wasn't working half way). If you are an Averett fan and want to sit in the middle of the field, you have to either sit on the ground or bring a lawn chair. (no body tells you that up front or on the web site). The visitors must feel like they are in the parking lot due to the logistics of getting stands on that side of the field. At anyrate, they have only been playing football there 10 years now and Rome wasn't built in a day. I am sure the AD and SID will see this and ban me from future games, but hey, you have to tell it like it is. There isn't another facility in the USA South as bad as Averett........other than the restrooms where Greensboro plays. But that is the city of Greensboro's fault not the college. One day Averett will be just as nice as CNU, Maryville, Ferrum and/or Shenandoah. However all these need to put concessions on the visitors side too. LOL.

Ok enough of my rambling, back to football. What is it going to take for Averett to become a contender on a regular basis. Ferrum, NCWC seem to be there every year now, Maryville and Methodist are there more than not.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 04:12:05 PM
Results from Week 6 of Pickems

ProudFightingScot       4-0
Crazyleggs33              4-0
WFU34                      3-1
Allen-C                      3-1
AUPOP                       2-2
Kickerdad                  2-2
Biship61                    1-3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 04:36:28 PM
Week 7 PickEms


Greensboro            @     Ferrum
NCWC                   @     Christopher Newport
Shenandoah           @     Methodist
Averett                 @     Maryville

And to make it more interesting and give you more opportunity to test your skills:

Guilford                  @    Bridgewater
Emory & Henry        @    Randolph Macon
Washington & Lee   @    Hampden-Sydney
Catholic                 @   Gallaudet

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 04:49:24 PM
PickEm Standings after Week 6

The top group finally split up and we now have a one man leader:

ProudFightingScot                      23-13
Allen-C                                    22-14
Kickerdad                                 21-15
AUPOP                                     17-11
Bishop64                                  15-14
Narch                                      10-9
Crazyleggs33                              9-5
Moshergc9                                 4-3
WFU34                                      3-1
Rocket                                      4-4
GC Gullet                                   6-7

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 13, 2009, 05:31:04 PM
Kickersdad

All I can say is .....DAMNNNN!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 13, 2009, 07:01:23 PM

Week 7 PickEms


Greensboro            @     Ferrum
NCWC                   @    Christopher Newport
Shenandoah           @     Methodist
Averett                 @     Maryville - Cougars are Mad!

And to make it more interesting and give you more opportunity to test your skills:

Guilford                  @    Bridgewater
Emory & Henry        @    Randolph Macon
Washington & Lee   @    Hampden-Sydney
Catholic                 @   Gallaudet
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 13, 2009, 07:10:06 PM
Another point to mention....at least in the Commonwealth of Va - no college or university, at any level, receives money for athletics from the commonwealth.



That is a surprise to me- I would have thought that facilities and other capital expenditures would have come from tax revenue. Otherwise, is it through alumni donations,corporate sponsorships, and gate receipts? I am really taken back by this. If this is correct, I had an education today, and have to apologize for all the griping and complaining I have done. The plus side of this is I learned something.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 13, 2009, 07:29:41 PM
KickerDad,

Didnt mean to hit a nerve....LOL but I can see everything you are saying. I wonder, has AU tried to get the town involved? Seems there are some opportunities there that could be used to boost attendance. If nothing else bring in the local high school bands for home games. We dont have one and you can bet thier parents will show, spread the word so to speak. Lights would probably help a lot. Think people are more into night games than 1:00pm starts. I prefer them, lets me get my choirs done and still watch a live football game.  Think they just need to get creative. Have a jersey Saturday for the local kids, wear your jersey get in free. That kind of stuff. Now I am rambling...LOL

Its funny you mentioned NCWC and Ferrum. Both schools sent coaches through my son's high school as well as did Bridgewater, CNU and Shenandoah. Only reason we hooked up with an AU coach was my son's high school coach recommended we look into AU and set it up.  Prior to that it was looking like either CNU or Ferrum. AU really dosn't have much exposure over here.

Ok I am done....that's my two cents LOL. Just so you know I am doing my part. Every Friday night HS game I got my AU Football shirt on, they ask I give em an ear full....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 13, 2009, 07:35:51 PM
Big game this week.  Lets go CNU!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 13, 2009, 08:06:18 PM
Greensboro            @     Ferrum
NCWC                    @     Christopher Newport (have to go with my team even though they are playying at CNU"
Shenandoah           @     Methodist (Still think Methodist is due)
Averett                 @     Maryville
And to make it more interesting and give you more opportunity to test your skills:

Guilford                  @   Bridgewater
Emory & Henry        @   Randolph Macon
Washington & Lee   @    Hampden-Sydney
Catholic                 @   Gallaudet
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2009, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 13, 2009, 07:10:06 PM
Another point to mention....at least in the Commonwealth of Va - no college or university, at any level, receives money for athletics from the commonwealth.



That is a surprise to me- I would have thought that facilities and other capital expenditures would have come from tax revenue. Otherwise, is it through alumni donations,corporate sponsorships, and gate receipts? I am really taken back by this. If this is correct, I had an education today, and have to apologize for all the griping and complaining I have done. The plus side of this is I learned something.

I will also look this info up -
I believe even capital funding...i.e new buildings, dorms, libraries, etc, also do not come from tax revenue but rather from the issue of bonds....I could be wrong, but I think that's true.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 09:30:51 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on October 13, 2009, 07:29:41 PM
KickerDad,

Didnt mean to hit a nerve....LOL but I can see everything you are saying. I wonder, has AU tried to get the town involved? Seems there are some opportunities there that could be used to boost attendance. If nothing else bring in the local high school bands for home games. We dont have one and you can bet thier parents will show, spread the word so to speak. Lights would probably help a lot. Think people are more into night games than 1:00pm starts. I prefer them, lets me get my choirs done and still watch a live football game.  Think they just need to get creative. Have a jersey Saturday for the local kids, wear your jersey get in free. That kind of stuff. Now I am rambling...LOL

Its funny you mentioned NCWC and Ferrum. Both schools sent coaches through my son's high school as well as did Bridgewater, CNU and Shenandoah. Only reason we hooked up with an AU coach was my son's high school coach recommended we look into AU and set it up.  Prior to that it was looking like either CNU or Ferrum. AU really dosn't have much exposure over here.

Ok I am done....that's my two cents LOL. Just so you know I am doing my part. Every Friday night HS game I got my AU Football shirt on, they ask I give em an ear full....

AUPOP,

You have some good ideas and I think you should find out how to join the boosters club. Good luck though, I tried to contact them several times and made mention to some folks that I was willing to help and would like to help, but never got the first email or phone call.

Great ideas though, it's a shame the people that need to see this don't read these boards. Probably don't even know how to log on.

Please don't get me wrong, I appreciate everything Averett University did for my son (Education, football etc) and especially the coaches who turned a smart ass 18 year old who thought he knew everything about anything, into a 22 year old man with a degree in four years (no extra semesters) and gave him the opportunity to play college football (four year letterman) which is not something every high school kid that wants to play actually gets.  My son graduated and is now working in Physical Therapy for an Orthopedic Surgeon who I might add use to be team doctor for a pro football team and William & Mary College before slowing down. I never though I would see this day 4 years ago. When we first visited Averett, Dunlevy (headcoach) told us that the primary goal for these kids was getting a diploma. The moto then was leave Averett with a diploma in one hand and a championship ring on the other. My son and many of his teammates were able to do just that. I am babbling here.....what I want to say is my complaints are in fact my wishes for things at Averett. So for those folks at Averett that can do something about this stuff and read this, please make it happen. The athletic teams and coaches (all of them) at Averett deserve more.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 09:34:21 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 13, 2009, 02:14:15 PM
Another point to mention....at least in the Commonwealth of Va - no college or university, at any level, receives money for athletics from the commonwealth.

85, hope you are doing OK....

Question, how much does having a former Senator (Paul Tribble) as President of the University help with fund raising?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 13, 2009, 10:40:06 PM
CNU supporters.... Hope this weeks game will be a close fought contest and a good one. I will not be able to see it. Have to go to Shelby, NC and watch my grandson play. May the best team win and hope it is not a blow out either way.  In spite of his injury, glad to see Tunde back, although I wish he could have waited until after this game. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 14, 2009, 08:49:47 AM
Read various comments on the AU - CNU.  The biggest challenge AU has is linemen.  They've got skill people (many from Florida that have talent but lack size) - but size was a problem against CNU.  AU was giving away probably an average of 30 lbs a man on either line and was evident by the fact that often the surge was so great that Ogun was often beyond the line of scrimmage before he was even touched. 

If D-II was big in VA, most of their linemen would be probably playing at that level (as a rule of thumb D-I O linemen today are 6'4" plus (so they have the frame to be 300lbs+), D-II linemen, in the 6'2 - 6'4" in the 260 - 280 range (CNU's lnemen) & D-III linemen are typically the kids that are shorter in the 250 range.  Being a state school in the talent rich tidewater area is another significant advantage they have over the rest of the conference.

That being said - AU should be competitive with the rest of the conference this year.  They'll have to play hard each game to win but it's unlikely that they'll experience another physical pounding as they did last Saturday.  Maryville should be a competitive game.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 14, 2009, 08:51:37 AM
Picks for this week:

CNU 
Ferrum
SU
Averett
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: flippy on October 14, 2009, 10:52:37 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on October 14, 2009, 08:49:47 AM
Read various comments on the AU - CNU.  The biggest challenge AU has is linemen.  They've got skill people (many from Florida that have talent but lack size) - but size was a problem against CNU.  AU was giving away probably an average of 30 lbs a man on either line and was evident by the fact that often the surge was so great that Ogun was often beyond the line of scrimmage before he was even touched. 

If D-II was big in VA, most of their linemen would be probably playing at that level (as a rule of thumb D-I O linemen today are 6'4" plus (so they have the frame to be 300lbs+), D-II linemen, in the 6'2 - 6'4" in the 260 - 280 range (CNU's lnemen) & D-III linemen are typically the kids that are shorter in the 250 range.  Being a state school in the talent rich tidewater area is another significant advantage they have over the rest of the conference.

That being said - AU should be competitive with the rest of the conference this year.  They'll have to play hard each game to win but it's unlikely that they'll experience another physical pounding as they did last Saturday.  Maryville should be a competitive game.



Pretty accurate assesment. In talking with my nephew it does seem that they may have the future working of a solid offensive line though. They have freshman that are 6-3-300, 6-2-290 and a beast at 6-7-320. Given time to develope and learn thats the pretty good beginings to what could be a dominant offensive line. Not sure about the defensive side. It will be interesting to see how things progress for AU.

Thanks to everyones response to my question. Learned a lot about D3 in the past few days. Best of luck to all.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 14, 2009, 12:29:06 PM
Ferrum
CNU
Shenandoah
Maryville


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 14, 2009, 01:26:15 PM
Hope the weather gives the USA South a break.  Look forward to Saturday football.  As I said in earlier posts concerning MU, regardless of the score, it has been great watching them make progress over the last few weeks.  Good luck to everyone this weekend and be safe. ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 15, 2009, 07:24:51 AM
This a must win for Shenandoah University (1-4) to have a shot of having a winning record for the 1st time since 2004.  The Hornets have won just 10 out of the last 45 games.

The perception from the "pickers" on here, looks like this Saturday vs. Methodist is a great opportunity for SU to get a much needed WIN.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 15, 2009, 07:32:49 AM
Week 7 PickEms


Greensboro            @     Ferrum
NCWC                   @     Christopher Newport
Shenandoah           @     Methodist
Averett                 @     Maryville
Guilford                  @    Bridgewater
Emory & Henry        @    Randolph Macon
Washington & Lee   @    Hampden-Sydney
Catholic                 @   Gallaudet

Reasons for Maryville Win over Averett:

Last 2 weeks we have faced the Conference's leading rusher.  Here are the stats before playing us and after

Scales - Methodist (Before MC - 125 yards rushing;  MC game - 58)

Kyle - Shenandoah (Before MC -135 yards rushing:  MC game - 70)

Scots Offense is clicking on all cylinders and can move up and down the field on the ground or through the air.

MC beats Shenandoah, who lost to CNU in double OT, who beat Averett 42-12.

Finally, it is MC's homecoming as well this week, so I don't think Averett can get mad enough to take this one.  Maybe next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 15, 2009, 04:17:57 PM
I still love my team but is it just me or is someone other than myself still waiting on CNU to take football to the next level. A lot of other football Alums and myself could care less that we took AU out to the woodshed but pissed off that we were embarrassed by Wesley, and beat by Wilkes. Don't get me wrong I love going to the games and seeing my team win more often than we lose but our team success should now be measured by what we do in the playoffs.

To the team stay focused, get the playoff bid, and then make a run on the national stage, where teams don't care if you are public or private they just care about moving on to the next round. Also good luck this week and beat the Bishops.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 15, 2009, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 09:34:21 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 13, 2009, 02:14:15 PM
Another point to mention....at least in the Commonwealth of Va - no college or university, at any level, receives money for athletics from the commonwealth.

85, hope you are doing OK....

Question, how much does having a former Senator (Paul Tribble) as President of the University help with fund raising?


He's the major reason, or champion if you will, for all the major changes at CNU. Even back in the early 90's when CNU's signature team was basketball and they had a guy drafted in round 2 of the NBA draft, CNU could never really be said that the entire athletic dept had a national presence. The Athletic Director, CJ Woolum is top notch, but he did not have the level of support from top administration that he has now. Trible is the visionary for the school and a guy who knows how to get things done. So far in his tenure, he has raised the academic standards significantly. also, he has found funding, private and through bonds, to have already built $500 million in facility improvements. Another $500 million is underway or soon to be underway. The Freeman Center for sports is being expanded as we speak. Funds for the Chapel are almost 100% in hand and money is being raised now for an Alumni center. Adding $1 billion in facility improvements, adding football, adding a marching band, adding a dance team, are all a part of the vision. The Ferguson Center for the Arts is one of the best performing arts centers in the country. I've been there and to many other facilities, including broadway. My daughter has danced at many of these places, none compare to The Ferguson Center.....privately funded - $59 million facility. Look at where CNU was 20 years ago and compare to today - it is totaly different. Even the dorms are fairly new. We didn't have them when I was there. Trible is the reason for the school and Woolum finally gets some support in building a national presence athletic dept. Soccer #1 in latest men's coaches poll. Field Hockey #17. Baseball not too long ago finished #2 and then #3 in College World Series. Men's hoops often breaks into top 25 - CJ will get win #500 this year, and football, while young will at times break into the top 25. It's a combination of things and the community support is also a big part of it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 15, 2009, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 15, 2009, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 09:34:21 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 13, 2009, 02:14:15 PM
Another point to mention....at least in the Commonwealth of Va - no college or university, at any level, receives money for athletics from the commonwealth.

85, hope you are doing OK....

Question, how much does having a former Senator (Paul Tribble) as President of the University help with fund raising?


He's the major reason, or champion if you will, for all the major changes at CNU. Even back in the early 90's when CNU's signature team was basketball and they had a guy drafted in round 2 of the NBA draft, CNU could never really be said that the entire athletic dept had a national presence. The Athletic Director, CJ Woolum is top notch, but he did not have the level of support from top administration that he has now. Trible is the visionary for the school and a guy who knows how to get things done. So far in his tenure, he has raised the academic standards significantly. also, he has found funding, private and through bonds, to have already built $500 million in facility improvements. Another $500 million is underway or soon to be underway. The Freeman Center for sports is being expanded as we speak. Funds for the Chapel are almost 100% in hand and money is being raised now for an Alumni center. Adding $1 billion in facility improvements, adding football, adding a marching band, adding a dance team, are all a part of the vision. The Ferguson Center for the Arts is one of the best performing arts centers in the country. I've been there and to many other facilities, including broadway. My daughter has danced at many of these places, none compare to The Ferguson Center.....privately funded - $59 million facility. Look at where CNU was 20 years ago and compare to today - it is totaly different. Even the dorms are fairly new. We didn't have them when I was there. Trible is the reason for the school and Woolum finally gets some support in building a national presence athletic dept. Soccer #1 in latest men's coaches poll. Field Hockey #17. Baseball not too long ago finished #2 and then #3 in College World Series. Men's hoops often breaks into top 25 - CJ will get win #500 this year, and football, while young will at times break into the top 25. It's a combination of things and the community support is also a big part of it.

Heard on the news this morning that there was a fire in one of the dorms. Hope no major damage and no one got hurt.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 15, 2009, 04:39:56 PM
What I heard - but I guess we will not know for sure until later tonight was that they evacuated 350 students from the dorm in the early morning hours and they were able to return at 5:30 this morning...so it doesn't sound too bad!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 15, 2009, 04:45:01 PM
Kickerdad...found out more from link below...and my daughter's best friend lives in that dorm...it was no big deal.

http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/local_wavy_nn_cnu_residence_hall_fire_20091015 (http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/local_wavy_nn_cnu_residence_hall_fire_20091015)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 15, 2009, 04:57:40 PM
I like the way cnufinest54 talks!!  Get er done!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 15, 2009, 06:24:13 PM
Ferrum
CNU
Shenandoah
AU
Bridgewater
RM
HS
Catholic
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 15, 2009, 08:24:38 PM
CNU33, WFU 34

They have ODAC picks in this weeks pick em poll....Need to add some more picks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 15, 2009, 11:00:36 PM
I'm not picking ODAC games. Don't know about em. CNU doesn't play em so I dont care.

And cnusfinest54,

I know what you mean and oddly enough I think the best thing for CNU would be increased conference competition. When you walk through the conference (for the most part) you get lulled into a false sense of security. Then the playoffs come and the competition is bigger and faster than what you have seen all year in conference play. Id like to see a big time out of conference game toward the end of the season. I think we have a tendency to forget about the first few games of the year and think that we are getting better as the year goes on. In actuality the opponents get weaker after game 3. We cant control how good our conference is but we could schedule a tougher game midway or later in the year. Maybe something to keep us from letting of the gas and coasting into the playoffs.  ???




Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2009, 12:27:08 AM
I don't know anything about the ODAC teams either except Emory & Henry is 4-0 against the USA-South.

The conference changed their scheduling formate this year so that the final 7 weeks of the season will be conference games.  The only chance of scheduling any non-conference opponents has to be at the beginning of the season.

The following is the Strength of Schedule ratings as provided by D3football.com

  33    Maryville
  59    NC Wesleyan
  77    Ferrum
112    CNU
150    Greensboro
158    Shenandoah
174    Methodist
180    Averett




Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on October 16, 2009, 02:46:06 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 15, 2009, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 09:34:21 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 13, 2009, 02:14:15 PM
Another point to mention....at least in the Commonwealth of Va - no college or university, at any level, receives money for athletics from the commonwealth.

85, hope you are doing OK....

Question, how much does having a former Senator (Paul Tribble) as President of the University help with fund raising?


He's the major reason, or champion if you will, for all the major changes at CNU. Even back in the early 90's when CNU's signature team was basketball and they had a guy drafted in round 2 of the NBA draft, CNU could never really be said that the entire athletic dept had a national presence. The Athletic Director, CJ Woolum is top notch, but he did not have the level of support from top administration that he has now. Trible is the visionary for the school and a guy who knows how to get things done. So far in his tenure, he has raised the academic standards significantly. also, he has found funding, private and through bonds, to have already built $500 million in facility improvements. Another $500 million is underway or soon to be underway. The Freeman Center for sports is being expanded as we speak. Funds for the Chapel are almost 100% in hand and money is being raised now for an Alumni center. Adding $1 billion in facility improvements, adding football, adding a marching band, adding a dance team, are all a part of the vision. The Ferguson Center for the Arts is one of the best performing arts centers in the country. I've been there and to many other facilities, including broadway. My daughter has danced at many of these places, none compare to The Ferguson Center.....privately funded - $59 million facility. Look at where CNU was 20 years ago and compare to today - it is totaly different. Even the dorms are fairly new. We didn't have them when I was there. Trible is the reason for the school and Woolum finally gets some support in building a national presence athletic dept. Soccer #1 in latest men's coaches poll. Field Hockey #17. Baseball not too long ago finished #2 and then #3 in College World Series. Men's hoops often breaks into top 25 - CJ will get win #500 this year, and football, while young will at times break into the top 25. It's a combination of things and the community support is also a big part of it.

Hampden-Sydney College, class of 1968. You're welcome ...  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 16, 2009, 09:16:41 AM
Week 7 PickEms


Greensboro            @    Ferrum
NCWC                   @     Christopher Newport
Shenandoah            @     Methodist
Averett                   @     Maryville

And to make it more interesting and give you more opportunity to test your skills:

Guilford                  @    Bridgewater
Emory & Henry          @    Randolph Macon
Washington & Lee   @    Hampden-Sydney
Catholic                   @   Gallaudet
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 16, 2009, 09:19:55 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 15, 2009, 11:00:36 PM
I'm not picking ODAC games. Don't know about em. CNU doesn't play em so I dont care.

Sorry guys, was just trying to add more games to make it interesting. Actually thought about following the ODAC lead and putting some of the top 10 teams in there as well. Guess I won't do that either.
Go ahead and give it a stab, I won't count the ODAC games in the tally.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 16, 2009, 10:23:46 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on October 16, 2009, 02:46:06 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 15, 2009, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 13, 2009, 09:34:21 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 13, 2009, 02:14:15 PM
Another point to mention....at least in the Commonwealth of Va - no college or university, at any level, receives money for athletics from the commonwealth.

85, hope you are doing OK....

Question, how much does having a former Senator (Paul Tribble) as President of the University help with fund raising?


He's the major reason, or champion if you will, for all the major changes at CNU. Even back in the early 90's when CNU's signature team was basketball and they had a guy drafted in round 2 of the NBA draft, CNU could never really be said that the entire athletic dept had a national presence. The Athletic Director, CJ Woolum is top notch, but he did not have the level of support from top administration that he has now. Trible is the visionary for the school and a guy who knows how to get things done. So far in his tenure, he has raised the academic standards significantly. also, he has found funding, private and through bonds, to have already built $500 million in facility improvements. Another $500 million is underway or soon to be underway. The Freeman Center for sports is being expanded as we speak. Funds for the Chapel are almost 100% in hand and money is being raised now for an Alumni center. Adding $1 billion in facility improvements, adding football, adding a marching band, adding a dance team, are all a part of the vision. The Ferguson Center for the Arts is one of the best performing arts centers in the country. I've been there and to many other facilities, including broadway. My daughter has danced at many of these places, none compare to The Ferguson Center.....privately funded - $59 million facility. Look at where CNU was 20 years ago and compare to today - it is totaly different. Even the dorms are fairly new. We didn't have them when I was there. Trible is the reason for the school and Woolum finally gets some support in building a national presence athletic dept. Soccer #1 in latest men's coaches poll. Field Hockey #17. Baseball not too long ago finished #2 and then #3 in College World Series. Men's hoops often breaks into top 25 - CJ will get win #500 this year, and football, while young will at times break into the top 25. It's a combination of things and the community support is also a big part of it.

Hampden-Sydney College, class of 1968. You're welcome ...  ;)

Thanks!! He's also a W&L law school grad.....lots of ODAC flavor.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 16, 2009, 05:37:41 PM
Add the following picks

Bridgewater
E&H
H-S
Catholic

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 16, 2009, 08:58:51 PM
Proud Fighting Scot - Strenght of schedules really don't mean much right now, it more of a timing issue.  With few exceptions granted Maryville, CNU - Wesley) USA South and ODAC both play the same conference and non-conference schedules.  They'll all tighen up by year end.

The real point is that both conferences are rated in the lower half of all the conferences nationwide.  So the real issue is not strenght of schedule now - but to improve the overall play and when teams do play outside the USA South and ODAC is do something they really haven't done - an that is to win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 16, 2009, 09:25:19 PM
I absolutely agree with yo WFU34.  MC lost to #22 & 6-0 Centre by 7 points.  CNU lost to #5 Wesley.  Don't understand why such a big difference in strength of schedule.

However, it doesn't mattter since conference winner will get the AQ.  Just passing on interesting info.....

Going to be a very wet field tomorrow for the Averett game.  Has rained 3 straight days...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 16, 2009, 09:38:49 PM
give me home winners for each game but the cua/gallaudet...and I'll take an 8-0 weekend :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 17, 2009, 08:41:47 AM
Good luck to all the teams today. Should be some really good ones this week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 17, 2009, 02:53:19 PM
Methodist (14) Shenandoah (7)
3:15 left in 3rd Qtr.

Total yards so far :
226 - MU
208 - SU

http://www.mumonarchs.com/custompages/xlive/xsummary.htm


MU had snap on punt and SU gets good field position, looking to tie on this drive.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 17, 2009, 03:22:29 PM
SU on MU's 22 with less than 5mins looking to tie it up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 17, 2009, 03:54:11 PM
Greensboro 27

Ferrum 24

1:01 left in the game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 17, 2009, 03:58:33 PM
Greensboro 27

Ferrum 24    Final


2nd win ever for the Pride over Ferrum
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 17, 2009, 04:56:14 PM
Huge come from behind win for AU   24-21   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on October 17, 2009, 04:57:20 PM
Congrats Cougars. Great drive late in the 4th Quarter for the victory!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 17, 2009, 05:04:33 PM
Boy did the pick em rankings really get screwed up this week.....I think I go 1 right, not counting the ODAC picks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on October 17, 2009, 05:19:34 PM
the d3 football scoreboard says NCWC 35  CNU 7??? Is that right? :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 17, 2009, 05:22:56 PM
Thats what NCWC web site says also so guess so...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 17, 2009, 05:39:25 PM
Thats what the CNU Live Stats said
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 17, 2009, 06:10:13 PM
That was the score 35-7. CNU had 7 turnovers and many 3 and outs. Defense tried very hard and just was on the field too much. CNU has a serious QB problem this year. The QBs are young. Flashes of brilliance, then a pick six. I think all 7 turnovers were from QB's but I'm not sure...3 INTs and 4 fumbles. With 44 seconds left in third it was 14-0. I had to leave a little early (my dad is ill) - when I left in 4th qt...about 4 minutes or so left, it as 21-7. By the time I got to my car it was 35-7 - and I parked about 50 yards outside of the stadium gate. NCW was awesome.....their receivers are huge. I would have tossed the ball up on every play and let the big boys outjump CNU's corners. 35-7 was not indicative of the game....it looked liked it should have been 50+ to 7.

That was the worst CNU home defeat in history. Not a pretty homecoming at all.

Congrats to NCW!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 17, 2009, 06:33:48 PM
the mu/su game was very entertaining...not the prettiest football you've ever seen, but really entertaining and the monarchs got a 42 yd fg in ot to get the W (after blocking a fg attempt by SU in OT)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 17, 2009, 08:03:59 PM
Biggest win in Greensboro's History.

Thats for sure.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 17, 2009, 08:32:55 PM
Congrats to Tunde Ogun for becoming CNU all time leading rusher, and he did it in just 3 years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 17, 2009, 09:03:22 PM
CNU set another record this week. Most turnovers in one game. Ridiculous.

I'm not sure who said CNU has a huge advantage due to the size of their linemen. From what I could see. NCW has some big boys pushing up front. I will have to disagree with CNU85 though. NCW is good but it really really all boiled down to the turnovers. When you give the team the ball 9 times(Oh sorry two penalties so just 7 times) it's hard to win. Take the turnovers out and NCW looks like a good team with very good receivers but far from a great team. With that said, I think they are definitely beatable by a few USA south teams left on their schedule. I know Im biased toward CNU but 7 turnovers? And they were real gimmies. INTs with no blue jerseys nearby. QB #7 fumbled the ball so many times I lost count. And he never really got hit hard either. He just didnt hold onto the ball. I think I saw him fumble 5 times.  I mean the deaf and blind school for girls could have won if they got 7 turnovers. The game was the worst I have ever seen CNU play. EVER. And I have seen almost every game. EVER.


Now for a positive note. It can't get any worse than that. And a pissed off, wounded football team is a scary thing. Look for CNU to come out swinging on every other team it faces this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 17, 2009, 10:00:05 PM
get em while they are down!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 17, 2009, 11:20:17 PM
Seems a few teams had disappointing homecomings.  After looking like it might be a long afternoon in Q1, AU pulled out a tight game.  Just like CNU's loss - turnovers hurt Maryville.

Conference race looks wide up (w/obviously NCWU currently in the best position) - Won't be surprised if there's a tie for title.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 18, 2009, 08:22:31 AM
Looking at Maryville's remaining schedule, AU may be their biggest fans for the next 4 games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 18, 2009, 09:02:51 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on October 18, 2009, 08:22:31 AM
Looking at Maryville's remaining schedule, AU may be their biggest fans for the next 4 games.

Just finished looking at that and you are probably right......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2009, 01:16:44 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on October 17, 2009, 08:32:55 PM
Congrats to Tunde Ogun for becoming CNU all time leading rusher, and he did it in just 3 years.

Yeah good thing he got that record.  I'm sure that's all CNU was hoping to accomplish yesterday.  Their main goal was to get him the record and winning a football game was not on the agenda. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 18, 2009, 03:45:52 PM
Congratulations Bishops, job well done!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 18, 2009, 04:30:43 PM
What you trying to say.  Can't congradulate a player for a good job?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 18, 2009, 05:44:11 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on October 18, 2009, 04:30:43 PM
What you trying to say.  Can't congradulate a player for a good job?

Are you talking to me?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 18, 2009, 06:53:39 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 18, 2009, 01:16:44 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on October 17, 2009, 08:32:55 PM
Congrats to Tunde Ogun for becoming CNU all time leading rusher, and he did it in just 3 years.

Yeah good thing he got that record.  I'm sure that's all CNU was hoping to accomplish yesterday.  Their main goal was to get him the record and winning a football game was not on the agenda. 

Plus, considering the age of the program, it's not surprising someone can set a program record in three years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 18, 2009, 07:14:47 PM
No I'm not talking to you Bishop. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 18, 2009, 09:56:07 PM
Congratulations to Greensboro, NCWC, Methodist and Averett.  I have to admit, a couple of those scores surprised me.  Looks as though the Bishops have the upper hand down the stretch!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 18, 2009, 11:43:02 PM
I would have to agree. Its not looking good for anyone else to win it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 18, 2009, 11:52:16 PM
Keep an eye out this week and you might hear what the coach himself has to say about being the conference frontrunner ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Three Sails on October 19, 2009, 06:14:58 AM
Couple of footnotes for AU Pop and others on the discussion about funding, community support and and supportive president at CNU:

1) Yes - in Virginia no state funds can be used for athletics and so alumni support, community sponsorship, etc. is critical.  However considerable funding also comes from student fees beyond the cost of tuition.  Several years ago, adding football at ODU was contingent on significant increases in student fees.  Most other state assisted schools help fund athletics in this way also.  Currently at CNU, student fees are being used to expand the Freeman Center complex. 

2) As '85 indicated, Senator Trible's ability to raise funding through private sources and corporations has been instrumental in moving CNU forward.  In addition, his connections  within the legislative process and abilty to compete among other VA public institutions for govt. funding and state bond financing have also been critical to CNU's growth. 

3) Credit for cultivating community support goes to CNU Atheltics who actively seek sponsorships.  In the past years they have brought in State Farm, Pepsi, Chick-fli-a, POMOCO, Papa Johns and Buffalo Wild Wings as corproate sponsors who sponsor halftime contests for students, have corporate outings and bring their employees to the games, bring their mascots and provide fan give-a-ways.  In the weeks prior to this season, when you ordered pizza from Papa Johns in this area you got a CNU football schedule magnet delivered with your pie.  Buffalo Wild Wings provides a DJ for tailgating.  CNU has done a great job with reaching out like this which generates increased revenue, promotes the program, adds to the game day atmosphere and works to increase attendance.   

Just some other factors which can move the University and the athletic program forward. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 19, 2009, 10:28:45 AM
Thanks three sails...That is really good info. No doubt the Captains athletic department and all of those involved have boosted the program quickly and effectively. All of the schools should use CNU as an example. I commend them for the job they have done.

I also am grateful to learn about the tax revenues not supporting athletics. I really (incorrectly) thought that this was providing an unfair advantage for the public vs private argument....I stand corrected, and apologize for all of the cussing i have done...not on the board, but as a result of not knowing.

Still, the tuition discrepancy makes it harder, especially in tough economic times for private colleges to retain students. I know that Ferrum lost 5 or 6 players that would have been in the lineup consistently, and I am pretty sure most of these were due to economic hardships. Two DB's, 1 LB, 1 WR. 1 QB, and a kicker.....This hurt them quite a bit.

On a positive note, Ferrum continues to grow its enrollment, and is raising funds to build a 4M dollar Athletic Center. This will also help with retention.

Thanks again for the info.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 19, 2009, 12:27:54 PM
Congrats to Averett on their win against the Fighting Scots.  Your team kept their poise when down 21-6 at the end of the first quarter.

Our offense seemed to shut down after the 1st quarter and had only 99 yards of total offense in the last 3 quarters.  I'm disappointed that we didn't finish off Averett when we had a chance and that seems to be a problem with our team. 

It was a great crowd for the game and still think we've got one of the best venues for Division III football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 19, 2009, 01:25:35 PM
Proud Fighting Scot - believe me, after the 1st quarter we all thought it would be a long afternoon for AU.  What happened to your team is not uncommon, i.e., get a big lead early can sometimes work against you (but it still is preferable to playing from behind early).  These are kids after all and can have a tendency to lose that "edge" that built the big lead in the first place (happens in the pros too).  Once you lose it - and give the opponent an opportunity to get back in it, it's tough to turn it back on.

Beautiful campus.  Your fans and venue were first class, really got into the all the festivities.  Had an older gentleman who play at MC back in the '50's sitting next to me in the 1st half and was a true sportsman.  Your field was in very good shape considering the weather leading up to the game and had a tremendous atomsphere.  Only complaint (plus the cold wind which unless MC had a direct line to the "Man Upstairs" you had no control over) was that concessions ran out of hot drinks by half-time, at the very least they could have been selling some Jack Daniels (instead of diet cokes) to warm up "old bones".

You season is still savalable - just beat NCWC and CNU in the upcoming weeks.  I'm sure all of AU fans will be rooting for you.

Last question - is Wesley Idelette the younger brother of Willie Idelette who played at Wake Forest a few years back?




Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 19, 2009, 01:37:47 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 19, 2009, 10:28:45 AMI also am grateful to learn about the tax revenues not supporting athletics. I really (incorrectly) thought that this was providing an unfair advantage for the public vs private argument....I stand corrected, and apologize for all of the cussing i have done...not on the board, but as a result of not knowing.
while tax revenue in VA doesn't DIRECTLY fund the athletic program, it certainly funds the program INDIRECTLY in many ways

for instance, public funding for athletic facilities would be a political nightmare (the "my tax dollars are supporting a bunch of dumb jocks" mentality), but who is going to argue that the students in state schools don't need outstanding academic facilities?  on the other hand, raising funds for specialized programs like athletics or the arts is much easier with private donors who want to see their name on a plaque in a facility that brings thousands of people (many unaffiliated with the school) through its doors - since facility funding dollars are finite, a public institution can focus private funding ventures on athletic facilities while their private counterparts must raise funds for both

you can continue to cuss :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 19, 2009, 01:41:42 PM
musupporter - you must have been a little more pleased with the defensive game-plan this weekend...much more blitzing than we saw early in the season (although the su offense still moved the ball pretty effectively between the 20's)

while i hate that mosko missed the kick at the end of regulation, in a way, i'm glad he did...the mu clock operator was pretty generous leaving one second for the monarchs to attempt that kick...i would have hated feeling like the monarchs won a cheap one - the way it ended was very exciting and appropriate
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 19, 2009, 02:08:32 PM
I am pleased with the effort of the entire team.  They have played extremely well the last 3 weeks with a lot more intensity.  Their turnovers have decreased and take aways increased.  Couple of times during the game I thought they needed their entire starting defense on the field, especially inside the 20.  Great win for a program finding its way.  2-1 in the USA South is easier to say than 2-4.

I honestly don't know what the deal with SU is.  They have a team full of studs.  Chemistry may be all wrong.  An athletic team to say the least.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 19, 2009, 02:17:58 PM
Narch, did you see the interception where the ball bounced off the ref and into the SU players hands?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 19, 2009, 02:25:27 PM
To Narch and musupporter....Great win for Methodist. From what I have seen in the statistics this is a team that has improved each game. Congrats on a very good, confidence building win for Methodist!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 19, 2009, 02:31:06 PM
Congrats to CNU's Tunde Ogen for getting the record! He deserves it!! This guy is a heckava ball player!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 19, 2009, 03:02:01 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on October 19, 2009, 02:25:27 PM
To Narch and musupporter....Great win for Methodist. From what I have seen in the statistics this is a team that has improved each game. Congrats on a very good, confidence building win for Methodist!

I haven't looked but would be curious as to where the MU offense ranks in some of the stats.  I think they are finding ways to win lately instead of ways to lose.  Tough teams ahead.  Hope there enough ways left. ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 19, 2009, 03:36:58 PM
Good to see someone give a congrats other than someone else make a sarcastic remark because they are disapointed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 19, 2009, 04:35:54 PM
Any CNU fan should be disappointed with a 35-7 blowout loss in a must-win game at home.  If it were between him getting the rushing title or CNU going to the playoffs which would he want?  That's the only point I was making.  You usually have a great deal of insight on how each game went, but for this game the only comment left was about him getting the rushing title.  To me, that's insignificant in a 35-7 loss.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 19, 2009, 04:54:45 PM
It would have also helped if he would have actually broken the record.  He is still over 100 yards short of the record by Roland Hilliard, who also set the record in 3 years.  We could have used the extra 122 yards he is trailing Roland in the game on Saturday. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 19, 2009, 05:16:54 PM
I'm not going to discuss that game because it is what it is.  Anything can happen and just maybe they can get in.  That is a positive not a negative. If you were at the game you tell me what you saw and maybe I can understand because I wasn't there, I was attending NC STATE game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 19, 2009, 05:28:33 PM
Quote from: musupporter on October 19, 2009, 02:17:58 PM
Narch, did you see the interception where the ball bounced off the ref and into the SU players hands?
from my vantage i couldn't tell what happened, but the ball changed direction mid-flight, so i knew it either hit someone or the su coaching staff was practicing black magic to change the trajectory of the ball...figured it was probably the former :)

teague had a sharp first half...not as sharp in the second, but good enough to get the w - i hope the boys have four more weeks of that type of effort going forward
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 19, 2009, 06:01:25 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 19, 2009, 04:35:54 PM
Any CNU fan should be disappointed with a 35-7 blowout loss in a must-win game at home.  If it were between him getting the rushing title or CNU going to the playoffs which would he want?  That's the only point I was making.  You usually have a great deal of insight on how each game went, but for this game the only comment left was about him getting the rushing title.  To me, that's insignificant in a 35-7 loss.

I try to stay out of this kind of talk, but I have to defend the Bishops to a certain extent....Could it be possible the Bishops just outplayed CNU on this given day? As I said in an earlier comment before the game was ever played. I hoped it would be a well faought game and the score would be close. The Bishops played one heckava game. It is over, regardless of the fumbles or the 130 yds. in penalties the Bishops amassed! I would be upset if my team lost, but It's over. it is time to move on!( Pardon my Spelling)  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 19, 2009, 06:28:08 PM
Bishop64,

You are absolutely right.  CNU was out-played in every aspect of the game.    You don't have to defend NCWC because nobody has said anything bad about them.  NCWC was stronger, faster and played with more effort then the Captains this weekend.  They are the better team and it showed on Saturday.  At CNU we pride ourselves on having a huge homefield advantage and got embarassed at home on Saturday - plain and simple.  But Keeping it Real is right, anything can happen so I'm sure the boys will keep on fighting until the season is over.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 19, 2009, 08:12:39 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 19, 2009, 06:28:08 PM
Bishop64,

You are absolutely right.  CNU was out-played in every aspect of the game.    You don't have to defend NCWC because nobody has said anything bad about them.  NCWC was stronger, faster and played with more effort then the Captains this weekend.  They are the better team and it showed on Saturday.  At CNU we pride ourselves on having a huge homefield advantage and got embarassed at home on Saturday - plain and simple.  But Keeping it Real is right, anything can happen so I'm sure the boys will keep on fighting until the season is over.

I know the feeling. The Bishops got their clock wiped the first game of the season against HSU. It happens. I guess that is what makes us all want to come back for more. Good luck to CNU the rest of the way. As the old saying goes, it ain't over till it's over.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 19, 2009, 11:18:13 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on October 19, 2009, 01:25:35 PM

Last question - is Wesley Idelette the younger brother of Willie Idelette who played at Wake Forest a few years back?


You are right WFU34.  Wesley's brother played at Wake Forest and is playing area football.  Probably the same league where AU's former receiver is playing.  The Idlette's are from Chattanooga. 

Was very impressed with Squillini.  Your defense took Idlette away from our offense.  He was a non-factor in the game after the 1st quarter.  Wesley's is our difference maker on offense and he didn't even touch the ball the last 3 quarters of the game.  Seems like we forgot about him..... :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 20, 2009, 06:54:14 AM
What type of team does Ferrum have this year?  Does SU have a shot of getting back into the win column this Saturday night?  Who are the standouts for the Panthers?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 20, 2009, 07:14:39 AM
I probably will not give you the most unbiased answer, so I will leave this one to others.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 20, 2009, 09:59:25 AM
Quote from: Bishop64 on October 19, 2009, 08:12:39 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on October 19, 2009, 06:28:08 PM
Bishop64,

You are absolutely right.  CNU was out-played in every aspect of the game.    You don't have to defend NCWC because nobody has said anything bad about them.  NCWC was stronger, faster and played with more effort then the Captains this weekend.  They are the better team and it showed on Saturday.  At CNU we pride ourselves on having a huge homefield advantage and got embarassed at home on Saturday - plain and simple.  But Keeping it Real is right, anything can happen so I'm sure the boys will keep on fighting until the season is over.

I know the feeling. The Bishops got their clock wiped the first game of the season against HSU. It happens. I guess that is what makes us all want to come back for more. Good luck to CNU the rest of the way. As the old saying goes, it ain't over till it's over.

This season has been anything but what was expected.  So far, any given Saturday any team can pull an upset.  NCW is always talented so it's not a surprise when they beat someone.  CNU is usually very good.  It is a surprise when they make the kinds of mistakes talked about here.  When another team can capitalize on turnovers, anything goes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 20, 2009, 10:06:29 AM
Quote from: Milby on October 20, 2009, 06:54:14 AM
What type of team does Ferrum have this year?  Does SU have a shot of getting back into the win column this Saturday night?  Who are the standouts for the Panthers?

Very fast offensively and can put up points.  Good against the run up the middle.  They had a very hard time stopping the pass from the spread offense.  MU found that out a little to late but were able to rack up 28 points with the spread in the 4th quarter.  SU definitely has a chance.  I do not believe that was there best outing against MU.  What I saw was a very athletic team without direction or chemistry.  A lot of individual ego's cost SU in penalty yards.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 20, 2009, 12:47:04 PM
MILBY
I have not seen them this year or for at least 5 years but I will say this without seeing them recently.

They will  "BRING THE HAT" and knock somebody's head off. That is for sure
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 20, 2009, 01:25:35 PM
ABN....Where are you hiding out these days?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 20, 2009, 04:36:48 PM
Will somone tell me how to put those pretty pictures on the left side (I guess they are called Avatars)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 20, 2009, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on October 20, 2009, 04:36:48 PM
Will somone tell me how to put those pretty pictures on the left side (I guess they are called Avatars)

Never mind....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 20, 2009, 11:07:49 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 20, 2009, 12:47:04 PM
MILBY,

I have not seen them this year or for at least 5 years but I will say this without seeing them recently.

They will  "BRING THE HAT" and knock somebody's head off. That is for sure

Should be a physical game then, because DC, Brock McCullough is doing a hell'va job for the Hornets.  He's going to make an outstanding Head Coach down the road somewhere.  He's s first class man on and off the field!


Brock McCullough is in his fifth year with the SU staff and his third as a full-time member. In March 2007, McCullough was promoted to full-time status as the university expanded the full-time staff to four members.

In March 2008, McCullough was promoted again, this time to defensive coordinator. He is the fourth defensive coordinator to serve under Barnes.

McCullough originally came to Shenandoah in August 2004 after serving as the defensive backs and strength coach at Grove City in 2003.

Prior to his experience at Grove City, McCullough worked for two seasons as the outside linebackers and wide receivers coach at Division II Clarion University.

A 2000 Aztec Bowl participant following his senior season at Grove City, McCullough and his wife, Jen, have one daughter, Rowan.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 21, 2009, 12:18:42 AM
Its almost Pic em time again!

Is there a tie at the top again?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 21, 2009, 09:50:36 AM
Sorry guys, the auditors are here this week and barely have time to breath.

Results from Week 7 of PickEms

1.      Results from USA South Games

Allen-C                                              1-3
Bishop64                                            2-2
WFU34                                              1-3
Crazyleggs33                                      0-4
ProudFightingScot                               0-4
AUPOP                                              1-3
Kickerdad                                          1-3
Narch                                               1-3

2. Results from ODAC games

Allen-C                                               4-0
Bishop64                                             4-0
WFU34                                               3-1
CrazyLeggs33                                      Didn't pick
ProudFightingScot                                4-0
AUPOP                                               4-0
Kickerdad                                           3-1
Narch                                                4-0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 21, 2009, 10:01:45 AM
Total Results through Game 7 excluding the ODAC games last week.

ProudFightingScot                 23-17
Allen-C                                23-17
Kickerdad                             22-18
AUPOP                                 18-14
Bishop64                              17-16
Narch                                  11-12
CrazyLeggs33                        9-9
Moshergc9                            4-3
Rockett                                4-4
WFU34                                 4-4
GC Gullet                              6-7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 21, 2009, 03:15:15 PM
Ryan, very nice article on the Bishops! Thanks for doing it. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 21, 2009, 04:31:07 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on October 21, 2009, 03:15:15 PM
Ryan, very nice article on the Bishops! Thanks for doing it. :)

Thank you! Henninger is always fun to talk to.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 21, 2009, 08:04:18 PM
Anybody know what Greensboro Qb gets the start?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 21, 2009, 08:17:15 PM
Hard to say, but Adams being 18-30-0  286 yards and 4 TD's make a strong argument to start.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 21, 2009, 09:23:03 PM
This weeks PickEms..........

Christopher Newport @ Greensboro
Ferrum                   @ Shenandoah
Methodist               @ Averett
Maryville                 @ NCWC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 21, 2009, 09:42:25 PM
Time to get over .500

Christopher Newport @ Greensboro
Ferrum                   @ Shenandoah
Methodist                @ Averett
Maryville                 @ NCWC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 21, 2009, 10:22:44 PM
Christopher Newport @ Greensboro
Ferrum                    @ Shenandoah
Methodist              @ Averett  This one worries me. Only because Averett is home
Maryville                 @ NCWC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 21, 2009, 11:18:27 PM
This weeks PickEms..........

Christopher Newport @ Greensboro
Ferrum                   @ Shenandoah
Methodist               @ Averett
Maryville                 @ NCWC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 22, 2009, 12:33:46 AM
Oct 24...Maryville over NCWC
Nov 7...Shenandoah over NCWC


Shenandoah is poised to suprise a lot of teams after losing the last 4 games by 3 points each time. Don't be surprised to see the hornets at 4-3 in conference when its all said and done.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ifuwant2win33 on October 22, 2009, 08:07:08 AM
Quote from: narch on October 10, 2009, 09:59:23 PM
big game for preston today, albeit too little too late...
? how does your 3rd string Qb have more touchdowns than your starter? I think he only played 1 half of this game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 22, 2009, 08:40:12 AM
Picks for the week

Greensboro - in a big upset (homecoming)
Ferrum
Averett
Maryville (go Fighting Scots)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 22, 2009, 09:20:51 AM
Picks

CNU
Shenandoah ( think they are do)
AU
Maryville       
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 22, 2009, 11:10:14 AM
Shenandoah's been due all season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 22, 2009, 05:02:45 PM
Quote from: ifuwant2win33 on October 22, 2009, 08:07:08 AM
Quote from: narch on October 10, 2009, 09:59:23 PM
big game for preston today, albeit too little too late...
? how does your 3rd string Qb have more touchdowns than your starter? I think he only played 1 half of this game.
well, i'll try to explain it...when he played, he threw the ball, players caught it in the endzone or they ran into the endzone after catching it...and it happened more times in one half than it has for the rest of the season - does this help?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ifuwant2win33 on October 23, 2009, 01:44:23 AM

[/quote]well, i'll try to explain it...when he played, he threw the ball, players caught it in the endzone or they ran into the endzone after catching it...and it happened more times in one half than it has for the rest of the season - does this help?
[/quote]Yes it helps! thank u! why would you not want to start that player? by that player I mean the 1 thats going 2 get you touchdowns!?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 23, 2009, 06:50:49 AM
All you Maryville fans coming to NCWC.....Bring you rain gear and drive safely :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2009, 08:22:44 AM
Quote from: ifuwant2win33 on October 23, 2009, 01:44:23 AMYes it helps! thank u! why would you not want to start that player? by that player I mean the 1 thats going 2 get you touchdowns!?
one mop-up performance probably doesn't carry as much weight as what the coaches are seeing every day at practice...in general, starters tend to be better than their back-ups - most coaches want to win, and the best way to do that is to put the best players on the field

having said that, i feel better about the "what-if" scenario if teague were to go down
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 23, 2009, 02:07:01 PM
Christopher Newport @ Greensboro
Ferrum                   @ Shenandoah
Methodist               @ Averett
Maryville               @ NCWC


Going for the upsets this weekend. Will probably be 0-4 but hey, anything can happen
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 23, 2009, 02:40:34 PM
Quote from: narch on October 22, 2009, 05:02:45 PM
Quote from: ifuwant2win33 on October 22, 2009, 08:07:08 AM
Quote from: narch on October 10, 2009, 09:59:23 PM
big game for preston today, albeit too little too late...
? how does your 3rd string Qb have more touchdowns than your starter? I think he only played 1 half of this game.
well, i'll try to explain it...when he played, he threw the ball, players caught it in the endzone or they ran into the endzone after catching it...and it happened more times in one half than it has for the rest of the season - does this help?
Classic narch.  +1  :)

There's a Methodist player who threw it
To a teammate who caught it - I knew it!
He then ran past the line,
Where the ref said "That's fine!
By rule it's a TD - just do it!"


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 23, 2009, 05:12:55 PM
Kicker Dad - you may be 1 -3.  Averett won't be an upset when they win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 23, 2009, 05:38:44 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 23, 2009, 02:40:34 PM
Quote from: narch on October 22, 2009, 05:02:45 PM
Quote from: ifuwant2win33 on October 22, 2009, 08:07:08 AM
Quote from: narch on October 10, 2009, 09:59:23 PM
big game for preston today, albeit too little too late...
? how does your 3rd string Qb have more touchdowns than your starter? I think he only played 1 half of this game.
well, i'll try to explain it...when he played, he threw the ball, players caught it in the endzone or they ran into the endzone after catching it...and it happened more times in one half than it has for the rest of the season - does this help?
Classic narch.  +1  :)

There's a Methodist player who threw it
To a teammate who caught it - I knew it!
He then ran past the line,
Where the ref said "That's fine!
By rule it's a TD - just do it!"




Narch, You are a poet and don't know it. You deserve another +1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 23, 2009, 05:54:04 PM
SU (28) Ferrum (21)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 23, 2009, 06:25:59 PM
Quote from: ifuwant2win33 on October 22, 2009, 08:07:08 AM
Quote from: narch on October 10, 2009, 09:59:23 PM
big game for preston today, albeit too little too late...
? how does your 3rd string Qb have more touchdowns than your starter? I think he only played 1 half of this game.

Preston did look good in that game and the offense they ran suited his style.  However, the majority of the MU offense is designedfor a mobile qb and right now Teague is your man.  Narch is correct.  Has to be something the coaches are seeing everyday.  Otherwise, Preston wouldn't be 3rd string.  You also have to look at the stats before you pass judgement.  There have been a lot of balls dropped that would have boosted teagues standing in your eyes.  I have said it before.  Teague is a gamer and tough as nails.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 23, 2009, 07:58:07 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on October 23, 2009, 05:38:44 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 23, 2009, 02:40:34 PM
Quote from: narch on October 22, 2009, 05:02:45 PM
Quote from: ifuwant2win33 on October 22, 2009, 08:07:08 AM
Quote from: narch on October 10, 2009, 09:59:23 PM
big game for preston today, albeit too little too late...
? how does your 3rd string Qb have more touchdowns than your starter? I think he only played 1 half of this game.
well, i'll try to explain it...when he played, he threw the ball, players caught it in the endzone or they ran into the endzone after catching it...and it happened more times in one half than it has for the rest of the season - does this help?
Classic narch.  +1  :)

There's a Methodist player who threw it
To a teammate who caught it - I knew it!
He then ran past the line,
Where the ref said "That's fine!
By rule it's a TD - just do it!"




Narch, You are a poet and don't know it. You deserve another +1
Narch, are you vicariously leading a poet's life through me again?  Now that would be poetic justice!  lol  :)   Good luck to MU tomorrow!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2009, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 23, 2009, 07:58:07 PMNarch, are you vicariously leading a poet's life through me again?  Now that would be poetic justice!  lol  :)   Good luck to MU tomorrow!
vicariously is the only way to live...especially the life of a poet :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 23, 2009, 10:20:07 PM
35-7 at home to a conference opponent??? What a joke. Congrats to NCW but I am extremely disappointed in my team and flat out embarrassed. Oh yeah, it was homecoming and you can't even show up for that game? Defense needs to stand up, the team is giving up 20+ points at home per game. Not a CNU type defense at all.

Maybe I come off harsh but I expect better from my team and I want them to do better. Good luck the rest of the way and continue to work hard.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 23, 2009, 11:08:04 PM
Lets Go Pride!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 23, 2009, 11:36:10 PM
Well I was 0-4 with my USA-South picks last week (teams that I follow) & 4-0 win my picks with the ODAC games (teams I know nothing about).  So here are my expert picks for this weekend....

Christopher Newport @ Greensboro  (CNU bounces back)
Ferrum                    @ Shenandoah  (SU must be shell-shocked on all the close loses, tough year)
Methodist                  @ Averett  (Averett gets a close win)
Maryville                  @ NCWC  (Tough for NCW to play 2 great games in a row, so MC finds a way for a W)

Weather says 80% rain for the game.  Would feel good about the rain would slow down NCW's offense, but just remembered NCW scored 35 against CNU in the rain last week......  Key to MC will be if MC's defense can play well early in the game....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 24, 2009, 01:23:04 AM
Quote from: narch on October 23, 2009, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 23, 2009, 07:58:07 PMNarch, are you vicariously leading a poet's life through me again?  Now that would be poetic justice!  lol  :)   Good luck to MU tomorrow!
vicariously is the only way to live...especially the life of a poet :)
How true - on both points!

There once was a vicarious poet - 
Limericks were his friends', don't you know it!
Now his nom de plume,
Hasn't lost its own bloom,
But I am a spare boat of iambs ... so row it!

Good luck to all the teams tomorrow ... may you live vicariously through your favorite players!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 24, 2009, 06:30:07 AM

Weather says 80% rain for the game.  Would feel good about the rain would slow down NCW's offense, but just remembered NCW scored 35 against CNU in the rain last week......  Key to MC will be if MC's defense can play well early in the game....
[/quote]

Proudfighting Scott, if you are not coming to game, the Bishops have live feed. You will be able to watch the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 24, 2009, 06:48:03 AM
Rooting for you this week Proud Fighting Scot - redeem yourselves for some tough "L's" and make the long ride home enjoyable with a "W" this weekend.  (also - what's the 4 Cody refer to?)

Pride - Make if a homecoming to remember this weekend and get above the .500 mark.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 24, 2009, 08:38:48 AM
Thanks for the info Bishop.  I'll pass it on took several of our fans.

The signature "4 Cody" is in reference to Cody Bowers who was a '04 graduate and assistant coach for the Fighting Scots.  Cody died in a car wreck just after the 2007 season and we lost a very dear friend.  Cody's best friend also died in the car wreck.

"Legends Rock" which our players run by and touch the helmet before entering the game field was built to honor all former players and was funded through donations made in Cody's memory.  A plaque at the bottom of "Legends Rock" gives special recognition to Cody. 

Thanks for asking.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 24, 2009, 04:34:52 PM
Au 38 Methodist 7, outstanding performance by the Cougars all the way around.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 24, 2009, 06:52:25 PM
Averett over Methodist 38-7. The game was very embarrassing from the MU side of the ball. Offense did nothing and defense stopped nothing. AU ran the ball with ease all day long against a very small and inexperienced defense for the most part. Game looked like it was going to be a very physical game during warm-ups after each team taunted each other but it turned out that AU was the only team that came to play. Congrats on the big win!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 24, 2009, 07:08:44 PM
Quote from: Milby on October 23, 2009, 05:54:04 PM
SU (28) Ferrum (21)

Check that, Keone Kyle is out for violating team rules.

Not good for the Home team SU.

Ferrum (42) SU (23) ... hate to say that but I am realist after learning that Kyle is out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 24, 2009, 07:24:15 PM
Keone Kyle being out is a huge loss but i dont think SU defense can stop Ferrum offense after last weeks lost to Greensboro. Ferrum is going to come out firing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 24, 2009, 07:34:07 PM
Ferrum 6
SU 6
End of 1st.


Video feed available through the SU website- Fairly high quality video.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 24, 2009, 07:47:57 PM
9-6 ferrum
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 24, 2009, 08:13:54 PM
Greensboro 7- CNU 0 at the half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 24, 2009, 08:14:22 PM
Well shut my mouth and call me a turnip

SU 13 Ferrum 9 at the 1/2.  

Shoulda, coulda, woulda just does not count for W's ... the Hornets need a big WIN.

Go Hornets!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 24, 2009, 09:07:36 PM
SU 13 Ferrum 9 with 13:44 left in 4th Qtr.

Coach Brock's Defense is coming up huge all night long!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 24, 2009, 09:25:14 PM
CNU wins 14-7. Greensboro looked very good but came up just short.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 24, 2009, 09:39:42 PM
Ferrum 19

SU 13

Final
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 24, 2009, 09:42:05 PM
Another very, very disappointing loss by the score of 19 to 13.

Coach Brock's Defense was huge all night and gave the team a chance to stay in the game.  The kids played hard.  What changes need to take place for the offensive to put more points on the board?

SU was won just 10 out of the last 47 games.

2009: 1-6
2008: 3-7
2007: 2-8
2006: 2-8
2005: 2-8


Sorry folks, sorry but the woulda, shoulda, coulda stuff needs to stop being said.  The W's are not coming, something must change for the offense to get more points on the board!  Coach Brock's defense is doing ALL they can do.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 24, 2009, 09:54:24 PM
SU needs an explosive threat. They are a very solid team all the way around but they lack that explosive attack. They did very good without Kyle playing tonight and they looked much better offensively tonight then they did against Methodist. They are a very strong and physical team they just lack that big play ability that other schools have. Their defense played amazing against the option all night. Other then the lack of the explosive player, the turnovers hurt them tonight, particularly in the third quarter. They should of put ferrum away when they recovered the ball inside the 20 but couldnt.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 25, 2009, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on October 24, 2009, 06:52:25 PM
Averett over Methodist 38-7. The game was very embarrassing from the MU side of the ball. Offense did nothing and defense stopped nothing. AU ran the ball with ease all day long against a very small and inexperienced defense for the most part. Game looked like it was going to be a very physical game during warm-ups after each team taunted each other but it turned out that AU was the only team that came to play. Congrats on the big win!!

Congrats to AU for an impressive season.  MU struggles continue. MU was missing a large number of starters and role players due to the flu and injuries. I don't believe it would have made a difference as far as AU winning but it may have been a closer game.  No surprise AU dominated as they have dominated several teams this year.  Great athletic team.

Only advice I have for them is to act like they have done it before.  Several unsportsmanlike penalties and several times they should have been called.  When you outclass a team, be classy about it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 25, 2009, 07:43:14 AM
Greensboro almost pulled a big upset - had CNU at the half.  They gave a good effort and that team is improving.  Won't be surprised if they're a fact next year.  They have a good coach.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 25, 2009, 07:52:39 AM
Does anyone know the conference tie-breaking process for determining who goes to the play-offs?  (I won't think there would be more than 1 representative due to everyone's non-conference performances, but could be wrong). 

Right now there is an outside possibility of a 3 way tie for the title if (and that's a big if - because these are still kids and anything can happen week to week) CNU, AU win out and AU upsets NCWC in the year's final game. 

I won't think it could be head to head like in a 2 way tie because they all would've beaten each other in a round robin.  Is it a drawing?  Coin flip (like in "Friday Night Lights"?) or some other tie breaking process?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 25, 2009, 09:37:35 AM
Ouch!! that picture on the Home page hurts! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 25, 2009, 10:35:27 AM
Quote from: musupporter on October 25, 2009, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on October 24, 2009, 06:52:25 PM
Averett over Methodist 38-7. The game was very embarrassing from the MU side of the ball. Offense did nothing and defense stopped nothing. AU ran the ball with ease all day long against a very small and inexperienced defense for the most part. Game looked like it was going to be a very physical game during warm-ups after each team taunted each other but it turned out that AU was the only team that came to play. Congrats on the big win!!

Congrats to AU for an impressive season.  MU struggles continue. MU was missing a large number of starters and role players due to the flu and injuries. I don't believe it would have made a difference as far as AU winning but it may have been a closer game.  No surprise AU dominated as they have dominated several teams this year.  Great athletic team.

Only advice I have for them is to act like they have done it before.  Several unsportsmanlike penalties and several times they should have been called.  When you outclass a team, be classy about it.

I dont think MU was missing any starters. Lets see on defense they were not missing a single person. On offense they are missing number 18 and 21 because of injuries. One starter and one back-up were missing. Dont think that would of made a difference in this one. Both teams were jawing quite a bit and i think that reflects the type of coaching they have.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 25, 2009, 11:25:01 AM
Congratulations to the Bishops. I was happy to see they played with intensity and did not appear to be over confident after last weeks victory. I do think the  strong wind conditions affected both teams. In defense of Maryville, I do think we cought them flat footed. Our defense was awsome, and the offense got it done. I do think the travel distance plays a role in Maryville's performance. It just looked as if they were tired. Maryville, I think you have a better team than what was displayed yesterday, and that is not taking anything away from the Bishop's performance. Right now we are playing much better football than in the earlier part of the season. I don't think their should be any doubt that Bo Jordan is a leader. The guy just plays smart football. Maryville, good luck on the remainder of your season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 25, 2009, 11:28:58 AM
Quote from: Allen C on July 13, 2009, 07:31:25 PM

This is info I posted sometime ago...I hope it helps.

I got the scoop from Mike Christie from the USA South Office- The playoff tie breaker rule is below. This is copied directly from Mike's email:

The football tiebreaking procedure is as follows:



                             a.  Head-to-head competition.

                             b.   Performance against higher-rated teams in Conference.

                             c.   Common opponent records.

                             d.   In the event of a three-way tie, the NCAA regional ranking following the final games will be used to break the tie between the three teams.  This will determine the Conference's automatic bid to the NCAA tournament.

                             e.   Coin toss.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 25, 2009, 01:13:53 PM
Their defense played amazing against the option all night.


I am not trying to be a Smart A**, but In looking at the season stats for SU, they gave up more offensive rushing yards against Ferrum than against any other opponent this year.

347 rushing yards..... 7.4 ypc.

The score would suggest a close game, and it was. but the effectiveness of stopping the ground game of Ferrum was amazing??? While Ferrum did have to come from behind in the 4th, I think the Panther O-line simply overwhelmed SU, and eventually wore them down. In my opinion, it was the SU passing game that kept them in the contest.

Either way, SU is close to being a contender. They are far better than their record indicates, and played a good game against Ferrum. They are at the cusp, and should keep improving.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 25, 2009, 01:34:51 PM
im talking in regards to what ferrum did against methodist. SU contained them better then MU did. An option team is going to have yards regardless. The reason for running the option to have triple threats and make the defense have to defend them all. Eventually the option is going to break open and go long and in this game it didnt. only a few big plays. when you look at the ferrum vs methodist every play seemed like a first down.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 25, 2009, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: Milby on October 24, 2009, 09:42:05 PM
Another very, very disappointing loss by the score of 19 to 13.

Coach Brock's Defense was huge all night and gave the team a chance to stay in the game.  The kids played hard.  What changes need to take place for the offensive to put more points on the board?

SU was won just 10 out of the last 47 games.

2009: 1-6
2008: 3-7
2007: 2-8
2006: 2-8
2005: 2-8


Sorry folks, sorry but the woulda, shoulda, coulda stuff needs to stop being said.  The W's are not coming, something must change for the offense to get more points on the board!  Coach Brock's defense is doing ALL they can do.



I couldn't agree with you more Milby. Every week its the same thing. The fans in the stadium are restless. Every night at Shentel you can hear conversations of people that are ticked off with the play calling and are fed up with the same routine week in week out.  The cheerleaders of SU that I was sitting in front of last night even had expressions on their faces as if here we go again. One of the things last night that caught my eye was when Ferrum opened up the game with a couple of big plays and scored a touch down pretty much right away in the game, the Hornets on the side line looked like they could care less. Through out the game no emotion was being generated on the side lines. Coach Parcells in the NFL once said "You are what your record says you are" Barnes is now 30-49. We as Hornet fans have only seen a hand full of wins at home the last four years. Natural Selection wrote "SU needs an explosive threat. They are a very solid team all the way around but they lack that explosive attack." I clearly be live that explosive attack is the head coach. Its time to see what  ast. head coach Joe Jacoby can do for the team. The players are just not responding to Barnes. SU just can not continue to go down this road. I know its Div. 3 but it still cost the school a lot of money to have a football program. They need sponser's, fans in the stadium and most of all high school recruits. Why would you want to go to a program that year in year out shows the same results. Please SU. I know the head administration level read's this page from time to time. Please, Please move in another direction. Show us you really care about this program.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 25, 2009, 02:10:46 PM
It sounds like the SU fans are complaining about the same things that the MU fans are complaining about. Poor coaching. One thing that needs to be taken into consideration is it is D3 football and the majority of the athletes are there for academic reasons and are not good enough to play D1. With this said if the coaching staff can keep getting 100 recruits a year why would the administration want to fire them, it keeps bringing in money. The skill level of the recruits just declines each year due to the fact that the team cant put together a winning season let along reach .500.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 25, 2009, 02:33:02 PM
The sad thing is when Nat. Selection just wrote "if the coaching staff can keep getting 100 recruits a year why would the administration want to fire them, it keeps bringing in money." its all true. SU in the past from comments from the Assistant AD/Athletic Communications Director its clear that SU only cares about the 100 plus recruits every year. He has said many times that at SU we care more about wins and losses. I've always thought then why have a athletic program? Yes, its true that in div 3 you can pretty much count on your hand the number of players that go on to play pro ball and they are at these programs to get a degree first and a championship second. But if a school thinks that winning is not important then it should save the money and have only intramural sports. Why charge the fans to get into the stadium? I know not every team can be a Mount Union but why should a team be in a re building year every year? Some programs just think different. I cant see CNU for example wanting to drive down the same road year in year out winning only 2-4 games a year. I know the fans would not put up with that as well. As a Hornet fan I hate to write anything like this about my university that I went to. I envy the fans of CNU, Bridgewater, NCWC for example of how a program could be. It even harder to know that at SU a winning program could be done. Just look at 2003 and 04 seasons. Yes Barnes was the head coach but it was all with Walter Barrs kids. I'm sorry for ram billing. Its just frustrating.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Jeremybozz on October 25, 2009, 02:42:45 PM
 I think Joe Jacoby would do an excellent job as Head Coach at SU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 25, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
I just want to make a quick comment on watching the Hornet baseball team receive its 2009 NCAA World Series & South Region champion rings last night at half time. I was very proud of all of you and seeing the smiles on your faces with your rings on walking around the stadium last night. Congratulations to you and I hope you have more moments like this in the future.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 25, 2009, 07:56:50 PM
Wow. Almost got em. 

  Still...Didn't but what a great effort!  Didn't see or hear any of the game but I think the Pride have a good chance to close out the year at .500 if they play that hard all the way through.  Would be nice for recruiting.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 25, 2009, 08:42:57 PM
I really believe that the GC coach should get STRONG consideration for coach of the year in the USA South.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 26, 2009, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on October 25, 2009, 10:35:27 AM
Quote from: musupporter on October 25, 2009, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on October 24, 2009, 06:52:25 PM
Averett over Methodist 38-7. The game was very embarrassing from the MU side of the ball. Offense did nothing and defense stopped nothing. AU ran the ball with ease all day long against a very small and inexperienced defense for the most part. Game looked like it was going to be a very physical game during warm-ups after each team taunted each other but it turned out that AU was the only team that came to play. Congrats on the big win!!

You are correct.  As I said, the outcome would not have changed.  AU is playing good ball.  Even though the starting line up reflected all starters present, there were some players out with injuries and illness.  You are also correct in the jawing going back and forth.  MU had nothing to jaw about based on their performance and AU could have been a little more humble about the thumping they handed out.  Coaches could be to blame for allowing it.  I think it is more the environment we live in.  The players see it on national TV everyday at the college and pro level.

I am not trying to take anything from AU.  I have a family friend that is a senior there and I am truly happy for his success as well as AU.  They have paid the price and now reap the benefits of a team that has been together for a few years now.  I am pulling for them to make a run and finish strong.  Hope to see them win conference. 

Congrats to AU for an impressive season.  MU struggles continue. MU was missing a large number of starters and role players due to the flu and injuries. I don't believe it would have made a difference as far as AU winning but it may have been a closer game.  No surprise AU dominated as they have dominated several teams this year.  Great athletic team.

Only advice I have for them is to act like they have done it before.  Several unsportsmanlike penalties and several times they should have been called.  When you outclass a team, be classy about it.

I dont think MU was missing any starters. Lets see on defense they were not missing a single person. On offense they are missing number 18 and 21 because of injuries. One starter and one back-up were missing. Dont think that would of made a difference in this one. Both teams were jawing quite a bit and i think that reflects the type of coaching they have.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU Dad on October 26, 2009, 12:01:10 PM
SU's coach Paul Barnes is one of the finest people you will ever meet anywhere! SU is lucky to have him, I guarantee SU's football players are learning more than x's and o's from Coach Barnes. I think that team is going to be very good soon. They have lost all 4 conference games this season, but 2 were in OT, and none by more than 6 points.

In 2006 my oldest son played at SU, and after the game had to be taken to the hospital. Coach Barnes came to the hospital when he found out a CNU player was taken there. He stayed with us till the doctor came in to give us our sons status sometime around 2am. He offered to open up his house for us to stay with him, and asked if we needed him to go pick up anything to eat.

I'll never forget what he said to us "For 60 minutes a year we fight hard against each other, but for the rest of our lives we are family! Because DIII football players share a love of the game."

You could tell those weren't just kind words to a worried family, those were words that the man believed in and lives by. Nurses told us we weren't the first family of an injured football player from a different team that Coach Barnes came to the hospital to see.

This year before the game at CNU he spoke to my younger son wished him a full recovery and asked how the rest of us was doing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 26, 2009, 12:36:28 PM
Quote from: CNU Dad on October 26, 2009, 12:01:10 PM
SU's coach Paul Barnes is one of the finest people you will ever meet anywhere! SU is lucky to have him, I guarantee SU's football players are learning more than x's and o's from Coach Barnes. I think that team is going to be very good soon. They have lost all 4 conference games this season, but 2 were in OT, and none by more than 6 points.

In 2006 my oldest son played at SU, and after the game had to be taken to the hospital. Coach Barnes came to the hospital when he found out a CNU player was taken there. He stayed with us till the doctor came in to give us our sons status sometime around 2am. He offered to open up his house for us to stay with him, and asked if we needed him to go pick up anything to eat.

Says alot about the man.  I said in earlier posts that I couldn't put a finger on why SU is not just killing people.  Looks like a team full of athletes.  However, if what what you say about their coach is true, the W-L will be forgotten but the life lessons he teaches will remain a life time.  Sometimes it is hard for folks to look deeper than the stats.  I have been guilty of that in the past and can't say it won't happen again.  The more I am around different people at this level, the more I understand what is important.  I hope that our sons and daughters will learn to look deeper.  It may be after their athletic careers are over, but I hope they look.

I'll never forget what he said to us "For 60 minutes a year we fight hard against each other, but for the rest of our lives we are family! Because DIII football players share a love of the game."

You could tell those weren't just kind words to a worried family, those were words that the man believed in and lives by. Nurses told us we weren't the first family of an injured football player from a different team that Coach Barnes came to the hospital to see.

This year before the game at CNU he spoke to my younger son wished him a full recovery and asked how the rest of us was doing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 26, 2009, 12:39:02 PM
CNUDad, that Says alot about the man.  I said in earlier posts that I couldn't put a finger on why SU is not just killing people.  Looks like a team full of athletes.  However, if what what you say about their coach is true, the W-L will be forgotten but the life lessons he teaches will remain a life time.  Sometimes it is hard for folks to look deeper than the stats.  I have been guilty of that in the past and can't say it won't happen again.  The more I am around different people at this level, the more I understand what is important.  I hope that our sons and daughters will learn to look deeper.  It may be after their athletic careers are over, but I hope they look.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 26, 2009, 02:59:22 PM
It's official.....my daughter is now a Captain. She will be transferring from James Madison in January!

Can y'all handle two of us??? Hahaha!!  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 26, 2009, 03:29:54 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 26, 2009, 02:59:22 PM
It's official.....my daughter is now a Captain. She will be transferring from James Madison in January!

Can y'all handle two of us??? Hahaha!!  :D

CNU85 Congrats on your daughter. Keep her under the fold as long as you can, they grow up way too fast
Speaking from experience, although she has given me 4 grandkids, she is still my little girl! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 26, 2009, 03:53:18 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 26, 2009, 02:59:22 PM
It's official.....my daughter is now a Captain. She will be transferring from James Madison in January!

Can y'all handle two of us??? Hahaha!!  :D

Congrats
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: buzzyfan on October 26, 2009, 04:33:10 PM
I'm a former player at SU. A bench warmer on my best days to be honest but I was still on the team for 3 years and have close relationships with many friends on the team still. Coach Barnes is a great guy, For the most part he truly cares about all his players. I felt at times though that he cared more about the startes but then again what coach doesent I guess. But being an up class person and having great bed side manners does not make you a great coach. Coach Barnes has indeed lost the players in the locker room. They dont feel that he is the person that can take them over the hump and on to brighter days. Every week we always heard the same ol speach from him but as players we for the most part tune him out. Let me be clear again. I liked the guy and do agree that he is a person that many players parents like. But as a head coach he just does not have it. If winning and losing dont matter then why take score? I dont know if Coach Jacoby is the answer or anyone else on the current coaching staff but if SU wants to win then they need to look at a different direction because the players that I know just dont feel like they can win with Coach Barnes. I dont want to come accross as being mean but it is what it is.  As players all we want to do is win. You wont win every game but the team is just so down on itself and feels it has no leadership. I guess thats where I'm trying to go with this. As players or former player also we feel the team is being lead with no captain. Again Im sorry if this come accross as mean but its not. Its just how alot of us feel.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 26, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: buzzyfan on October 26, 2009, 04:33:10 PM
I'm a former player at SU. A bench warmer on my best days to be honest but I was still on the team for 3 years and have close relationships with many friends on the team still. Coach Barnes is a great guy, For the most part he truly cares about all his players. I felt at times though that he cared more about the startes but then again what coach doesent I guess. But being an up class person and having great bed side manners does not make you a great coach. Coach Barnes has indeed lost the players in the locker room. They dont feel that he is the person that can take them over the hump and on to brighter days. Every week we always heard the same ol speach from him but as players we for the most part tune him out. Let me be clear again. I liked the guy and do agree that he is a person that many players parents like. But as a head coach he just does not have it. If winning and losing dont matter then why take score? I dont know if Coach Jacoby is the answer or anyone else on the current coaching staff but if SU wants to win then they need to look at a different direction because the players that I know just dont feel like they can win with Coach Barnes. I dont want to come accross as being mean but it is what it is.  As players all we want to do is win. You wont win every game but the team is just so down on itself and feels it has no leadership. I guess thats where I'm trying to go with this. As players or former player also we feel the team is being lead with no captain. Again Im sorry if this come accross as mean but its not. Its just how alot of us feel.

this post should really help the situation at su...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 26, 2009, 11:34:35 PM
Quote from: narch on October 26, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: buzzyfan on October 26, 2009, 04:33:10 PM
I'm a former player at SU. A bench warmer on my best days to be honest but I was still on the team for 3 years and have close relationships with many friends on the team still. Coach Barnes is a great guy, For the most part he truly cares about all his players. I felt at times though that he cared more about the startes but then again what coach doesent I guess. But being an up class person and having great bed side manners does not make you a great coach. Coach Barnes has indeed lost the players in the locker room. They dont feel that he is the person that can take them over the hump and on to brighter days. Every week we always heard the same ol speach from him but as players we for the most part tune him out. Let me be clear again. I liked the guy and do agree that he is a person that many players parents like. But as a head coach he just does not have it. If winning and losing dont matter then why take score? I dont know if Coach Jacoby is the answer or anyone else on the current coaching staff but if SU wants to win then they need to look at a different direction because the players that I know just dont feel like they can win with Coach Barnes. I dont want to come accross as being mean but it is what it is.  As players all we want to do is win. You wont win every game but the team is just so down on itself and feels it has no leadership. I guess thats where I'm trying to go with this. As players or former player also we feel the team is being lead with no captain. Again Im sorry if this come accross as mean but its not. Its just how alot of us feel.

this post should really help the situation at su...


I agree and not trying to be a smart*** but if you want your concern to be considered legitimate, then post your real identity OR write a letter to the SU administrators and AD's expressing your concerns.

If what you are stating is true, then you should not have any problems posting with your real identity vs. hiding behind an alias.  I am told that the truth is an easy story to tell.

If not, then this post should be deleted from this message board.

Just my 2cents.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 27, 2009, 12:22:40 AM
Looks like we have another nail biter going down the final 3 weeks of the season. AU plays NCW on Nov 14th and I'm looking forward to seeing which of these two high powered scoring teams will prevail. Here's hoping that no team will have any major injuries. We also cant forget CNU though. They are still right in the mix of it all.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 27, 2009, 09:47:42 AM
If CNU wins out the remanding season and both NCW and AU both win and come down to the final game, what do you guys think the chances are that two USAC schools will go to the playoffs?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 27, 2009, 10:16:42 AM
Quote from: musupporter on October 26, 2009, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on October 25, 2009, 10:35:27 AM
Quote from: musupporter on October 25, 2009, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on October 24, 2009, 06:52:25 PM
Averett over Methodist 38-7. The game was very embarrassing from the MU side of the ball. Offense did nothing and defense stopped nothing. AU ran the ball with ease all day long against a very small and inexperienced defense for the most part. Game looked like it was going to be a very physical game during warm-ups after each team taunted each other but it turned out that AU was the only team that came to play. Congrats on the big win!!

You are correct.  As I said, the outcome would not have changed.  AU is playing good ball.  Even though the starting line up reflected all starters present, there were some players out with injuries and illness.  You are also correct in the jawing going back and forth.  MU had nothing to jaw about based on their performance and AU could have been a little more humble about the thumping they handed out.  Coaches could be to blame for allowing it.  I think it is more the environment we live in.  The players see it on national TV everyday at the college and pro level.

I am not trying to take anything from AU.  I have a family friend that is a senior there and I am truly happy for his success as well as AU.  They have paid the price and now reap the benefits of a team that has been together for a few years now.  I am pulling for them to make a run and finish strong.  Hope to see them win conference. 

Congrats to AU for an impressive season.  MU struggles continue. MU was missing a large number of starters and role players due to the flu and injuries. I don't believe it would have made a difference as far as AU winning but it may have been a closer game.  No surprise AU dominated as they have dominated several teams this year.  Great athletic team.

Only advice I have for them is to act like they have done it before.  Several unsportsmanlike penalties and several times they should have been called.  When you outclass a team, be classy about it.

I dont think MU was missing any starters. Lets see on defense they were not missing a single person. On offense they are missing number 18 and 21 because of injuries. One starter and one back-up were missing. Dont think that would of made a difference in this one. Both teams were jawing quite a bit and i think that reflects the type of coaching they have.

im still confused as to what starters you are talking about?? the only starter that was not playing was number 18 Hopkins at WR. the defense had all their starters and the offense had all theirs minus one player.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on October 27, 2009, 10:33:47 AM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 27, 2009, 09:47:42 AM
If CNU wins out the remanding season and both NCW and AU both win and come down to the final game, what do you guys think the chances are that two USAC schools will go to the playoffs?

Zero (same as the ODAC, I'll admit). Every team in the USAC has at least two losses, and there are too many one-loss teams from more highly rated conferences.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 27, 2009, 12:02:12 PM
I would agree - realistically it could be a 3 way tie for the title if CNU and AU win out (which means NCWC loses).  All would have 1 loss and having beaten each other.  Conference is not highly rated enough nor out of conference records are not good enough to probably warrant 2 teams getting in.  Hope I'm wrong.

Note to SU fans - a lot of buzz about the coach, they should be better, etc., while I understand your feelings and disapointment but can you wait one more week (until after the AU game) before you turn it around?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 27, 2009, 12:20:04 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on October 27, 2009, 12:02:12 PM

Note to SU fans - a lot of buzz about the coach, they should be better, etc., while I understand your feelings and disapointment but can you wait one more week (until after the AU game) before you turn it around?
good one. One karma for you ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 27, 2009, 12:51:28 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 27, 2009, 09:47:42 AM
If CNU wins out the remanding season and both NCW and AU both win and come down to the final game, what do you guys think the chances are that two USAC schools will go to the playoffs?

zip
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 27, 2009, 01:20:07 PM
Don't count Shenandoah or their coach out just yet. I watched them play against Averett the past four years and they have got some outstanding ball players. If they ever find 4th and 5th gear they will be something else to deal with. They have been in every game so far this year and a break here and there would have given them the win. I hope Averett is not thinking ahead because if they are, Shenandoah will take them to the cleaners and then they have to travel to Ferrum. I don't think they have won at Ferrum in a while. (at least not the past two times). Something about that place that causes Averett to fall apart. I still don't think Averett has put together the full package yet this year. They need to realize there is 60 minutes in a game and you have to go full bore the entire time, plus some. They have played outstanding in the second half this year, but I would like to see them play with the same intensity in the first half as well. If they get into 5th gear for a whole game (and that includes all aspects like special teams) then watch out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 27, 2009, 02:55:22 PM
HSC 74 is right. Did the ODAC have a BC 8-2 or 9-1 and HSC 9-1 one year and HSC sat because they lost to BC. Way too many hammers out there for 2 USAC teams. 2001-2004 HSC had probably 3 playoff calibre teams that sat. As painful as that was to admit I was too lazy to research but I am close
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 27, 2009, 06:28:29 PM
Kickerdad - I don't think AU will be looking past anyone.  They probably have the toughest road to go thru to have any chance to share a portion of the conference title so I would be surprised to see them take any of their remaining games for granted.

Defense has played outstanding lately - particularly the last 7 quarters and the offensive line is improving to enable a running game to get untracked marking for a more balanced attack.  They have play makers.    All you can ever ask for is to have the opportunity to control your own destiny - they do, it will be interesting to see how the kids handle the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 27, 2009, 10:12:30 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 27, 2009, 09:47:42 AM
If CNU wins out the remanding season and both NCW and AU both win and come down to the final game, what do you guys think the chances are that two USAC schools will go to the playoffs?
nada :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 27, 2009, 10:33:38 PM
Been out of town the last few days and haven't had a chance to comment about the NCW-Maryville game. I remember what the Bishops were like 2 years ago when they made it to the national playoffs and this looks like a much better team.  They have a dominant defensive front, an athletic offenive line and many difference makers on offense.   I knew we were in trouble when I saw DE Boykin run down Hightower from the opposite side of the field. 

We lost 2 defensive starters for the season with injuries the week before during the Averett game and needed everyone healthy to play against a very good offense.  Our QB Tim Conner suffered a grade 1 separated shoulder at the end of the first quarter on a tackle made on Averett's sideline (an incident happened to Conner on the sideline which I will comment on at a later time) which explains why we weren't successful throwing the ball the last 3 quarters of that game.  Conner didn't throw a ball all throughout the week until the morning of the NCW game.  Conner played the last 2 series of the 2nd quarter and first 2 series of the 3rd quarter & was ineffective.  Backup starter Chris Shelton started the game with only a handful of college snaps under his belt.  I thought he did a good job.  He made some rookie mistakes, but made several nice throws during the game.

We needed to be at our very best and play at our very best to have any chance against this talented team.  I'll be shocked if they lose any of the remaining conference games.   

The Fighting Scots need to regroup this week and get a win against a tough Greensboro team who lost against CNU 14-7.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 27, 2009, 10:51:28 PM
Just one more comment about Shenandoah since everyone else is commenting about SU.  They are extremely close to having turned around the program.  All the scores indicate they are STILL playing very hard for Coach Barnes and haven't given up on the season.

The have a strong running game and a very good defense.  The one thing they haven't had is a QB who can win a game by throwing the ball.  The current QB is a tough runner and can manage the offense, but I do not believe he can take over and win the game with his arm.  I think he threw for about 150 yards against us, but 95 yards came on 2 screen passes.  If they used the PK who kicked 2 FG's against us against CNU the previous week, they would have had a win against CNU.

So SU fans, hang in there - I really believe next season will be a big year for the Hornets (except for against MC).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 28, 2009, 06:49:01 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on October 27, 2009, 06:28:29 PM
Kickerdad - I don't think AU will be looking past anyone.  They probably have the toughest road to go thru to have any chance to share a portion of the conference title so I would be surprised to see them take any of their remaining games for granted.

Defense has played outstanding lately - particularly the last 7 quarters and the offensive line is improving to enable a running game to get untracked marking for a more balanced attack.  They have play makers.    All you can ever ask for is to have the opportunity to control your own destiny - they do, it will be interesting to see how the kids handle the next couple of weeks.

Hope you are right WFU34, watched the SU/Ferrum game on line last week and SU is a very capable of coming in and putting a halt to AU's season. Thier record isn't an indication of thier ability. Frankly I am more worried about this one than Ferrum, not a slight against Ferrum but SU has been so close all season they are do to finally pull one out for a win. I am sure they would like nothing better than to be the spoiler so AU better be ready.

Agree with what you said, defense has been spectacular and seems like the o line has come together. They have been tinkering with it all year trying to find the right combination and judging from Saturday looks like they have it.

Here's hoping for a dry Saturday, have fought a cold all football season and not sure how much more the field can take of these wet games. Stayed for the jv game Sunday and after it was over field was in pretty bad shape. Don't know if its always this wet during football season in Danville but if so time for AU to get off the wallet and put in a turf field.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU Dad on October 28, 2009, 09:06:36 AM
CNU85 congrats on your daughter becoming a Captain. I will be sure to throw an extra Bubba Burger on the grill for her next year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 28, 2009, 11:35:07 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on October 28, 2009, 06:49:01 AM


Here's hoping for a dry Saturday, have fought a cold all football season and not sure how much more the field can take of these wet games. Stayed for the jv game Sunday and after it was over field was in pretty bad shape. Don't know if its always this wet during football season in Danville but if so time for AU to get off the wallet and put in a turf field.

They need more than turf but that would be a good start. The field seems to hold water, especially at the end where the "Cougar Den" is. Could be the crown is gone. They use to keep it too wet and the fact that soccer (girls and boys) are all over it way before football season starts, doesn't help. Coach Smith will kill me for this, but I think, not sure for certain this year, the kickers practice primarly on the game field as well. A field goal kicker can tear a field up in no time if he doesn't move around.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 28, 2009, 05:16:27 PM
The whole AU facility could use an upgrade from the field to the stands to the concessions to the rest rooms.  It all sends a message - to the students, community and visitors.  Some of the conference teams have excellent facilities such as Maryville or CNU.  Don't know if AU doesn't have the money (just recently completed a multi-million $ student center) or lacks the support.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 28, 2009, 09:10:13 PM
Does the visiting team still have walk half way around the campus to get from the locker rooms to the field at AU or did they build a field house near the field?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 29, 2009, 08:13:58 AM
Yes - there's a field house by the field that the Cougars use.  Visitors come out of lockers up in the gym, across the parking lot.  Call it "home field advantage" - an effort to "tire out" the opponents legs with the long walk.  Unfortunately it didn't work this year against CNU when they ran for over 500 yards. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 29, 2009, 11:39:39 AM
Speaking of AU's facilities, they are a bit of a mish-mash.  I've been there twice to watch Guilford.  The field itself is not the greatest, partly due to the overall construction of the turf and the amount of play (multiple sports).  The home stands are a very weird combination of disjointed stands and the visitor side is nonexistent (take your own folding chair).  Press box looks very small.  Restrooms, concessions and visitor locker facilities are scattered and inadequate.  Parking area and accessibility to the stadium (which is off-campus) are good.

Now, with that said, it takes time (and money!) for a relatively new program to get their facilities up to speed, but, with that said, Averett could have done some better planning on what they've done to date.

Now, lest anyone say my own alma mater went for years (make that decades!) with subpar facilities, I will wholeheartedly agree.  Finally, after a lot of planning and fundraising, we now have something of which I'm proud, but .... I'd still like to see more stands, a permanent concession area and a fieldhouse adjacent to the field.  As always, it only takes money!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 29, 2009, 12:23:22 PM
Heres my thoughts on sub par football facilities or any athletic facilities at this level.  Before I get started let me say I don't have a problem with money being spent to upgrade educational facilities over athletics.

Lets just say the average cost of tuition is $25000.00 at these private schools.  I will speak from the numbers at MU.  There are over 100 football players at MU.  Some play, some don't.  Some get academic money, some get little.  No athletic scholarships.  But lets assume that after averaging out academic money, 75 players pay $25000.00 per year.  That would total $1,875,000.00 per year generated by the football players alone.  That figures to $7,500,000.00 over the 4 year enrollment of those 75 players.  Thats football.  Doesn't include the other sports or the non athletes.

Disclaimer:  I know these figures are not accurate but I think they are close.  Even if I am off a couple hundred thousand, still a lot of cash flow.

I have read the posts from others lamenting over the lack of money and private vs. state funded.  Yes there is a huge difference between those two.  But if your athletics generated that kind of money it is perfectly acceptable to wonder why your facilities are sub par. 

Until the administration of the individual schools realize the true significance of their athletic programs, DIII schools are going to continue to play in sub par facilities and their athletic programs will never get to the level that fans and alumni think they should be.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 29, 2009, 12:29:02 PM
Footnote:  MU did open a wonderful football field house facility this year.  Very nice.

But we still use port-a- jons, a trailer for concessions, no visitors side, and no lights.

We also hope the long walk from the visitors locker room wears our opponents out before the game ever gets started. ;D :P ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 29, 2009, 12:30:56 PM
Shenandoah determined to stop missing scoring chances
By Jeremy Stafford -- jstafford@nvdaily.com

WINCHESTER -- The Shenandoah Hornets (1-6, 0-4) still boast the best defense in the USA South conference. They still boast the best scoring defense, the best pass defense and the best total defense. They allow the fewest first downs and the fewest fourth-down conversions.

Despite all the defensive statistics, the Hornets somehow have only one, measly win to hang their hat on.

"Our scoring chances need to be better," SU head coach Paul Barnes concluded. "Of all the stats, that's the one that sticks out."

Though the Hornets have displayed a magnificent ability to chew up yardage and consume precious minutes off the clock this season, Shenandoah only averages 17.3 points per game -- well short of N.C. Wesleyan's conference-leading 33.7 points per game.

Barnes has a remedy for SU's scoring woes, though -- a remedy more easily recognized on film than executed on the field.

"We have to make plays, let's face it," Barnes explained. "We have to make explosive plays, and I think we've done that lately -- we've been making more explosive plays than we have been.


http://www.nvdaily.com/sports/2009/10/offseason-key-for-wr-summer-workouts-help-sus-brown-improve-this-year.php (http://www.nvdaily.com/sports/2009/10/offseason-key-for-wr-summer-workouts-help-sus-brown-improve-this-year.php)


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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 29, 2009, 01:44:25 PM
In response to the comments about the Averett facilities.........they are all correct. It is what I have been complaining about the past several years.

Now let me do some bragging for Averett.

1. The coaches are first class and are doing everything they can to improve the overall football program. They make sure the team has the best equipment to wear, they have a very nice facility for the Averett team right next to the field and they make sure that when the team travels they go first class (good, dependable and safe buses), they make sure they are feed properly and they make sure the team looks presentable when they travel. They also make sure the players are going to class and getting their grades so they will graduate on time. Dunlevy is a strict coach who won't hesitate to bench 1st team players who miss curfew, skip classes, or make trouble.
2. There is a new AD (Sam Ferguson) who is doing everything in his power in order to make improvements.
3. They have a new SID who used to be with the local newspaper and he is has done a great job with the media and website, with the help of the coaches.
4. There is a new President who has been there going on her 3rd year and she has made it a personal challange to upgrade the campus, and is doing a great job so far.

My concern is the amout of support they get from the Alumni and where are they with their capital fund raising. That is something you don't hear about in public and on the sidelines. You can only do so much with your yearly general fund budget. In order to make the upgardes we have all talked about on this board, they are going to have to invest in a firm that can help them raise the capital to build the stadium and make the improvements to the site. It will also take volunteer help from the boosters and alumni. They also need the support from the staff, professors, and the student body as well as the community. I am sure they read all this stuff and know what is being said. I am confident that they care and they are making attempts to improve, it will just take time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 29, 2009, 01:50:04 PM
Can someone work up this weeks pickems.......I am up to my shoulders in alligators with the auditors. Thank goodness they will be gone tomorrow. I will be able to figure up last weeks results tonight late, but hoping someone can get this weeks games on the board so everyone can start voting.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2009, 01:52:12 PM
i think with the addition of the new field house, the mu football facilities are very close to being outstanding...here is what i would do to upgrade and get them there...like 'nova says, it only takes money :)

- wrought iron fence with brick posts every 50 yards or so around the front and left (riddle center) side of the entire football field...build a nice entry gate

- build a permanent concession stand on one side of the press box and permanent restrooms on the other side of the press box

- put up temporary bleachers (which are permanent during the football season) on the "visitors" side of the field to put the visitors where they belong :)

- paint the MU on the 50 yard line (not sure why they stopped painting the M the last 2 years)

as the stadium is configured now, it's a great place to watch a game...almost perfect, in fact...there is plenty of shade and wide open spaces for the kids to run around in (a must if you've got little ones like me) and the game-day atmosphere is light years better than just 2-3 years ago

i'd be willing to bet this could be done for under $250K...and while we're at it with the wrought iron and brick posts, treat the soccer field, baseball field and softball field the same way - it would sure class each joint up and make a world of difference, in my mind

mu supporter, if you're good for 1/2 of the $250K, papi and rocket can kick in the rest :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on October 29, 2009, 02:10:23 PM
Just committed money to the school last night.  Phone Call Fund Raising at its finest.  Unfortunately, my son is one that didn't get a lot of academic money but I love him just the same.  A little broker for it, but just the same.  So at this point it is a little hard to contribute more considering what I pay in tuition.  But I promise, if I win the lottery they will have to name the stadium after me ;D.

Your suggestions are right on Narch.  I don't think anyone wants to lose the coziness of the small stadium.  Visitor bleachers, concession, and bathrooms would get it right.  It is almost embarrassing to have to use a port-a-jon at a school as fine as MU.

Appearances also go a long way in recruiting talent.  Dressing up the athletic fields would make a huge difference.  Maybe build a visitors locker room on the other side of the freshman dorms  ;) ;D.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 29, 2009, 02:42:35 PM
Got you covered KickerDad

This weeks games

CNU @ Ferrum

Shenandoah @ Averett

NCW @ Methodist

Greensboro @ Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 29, 2009, 03:24:31 PM
CNU @ Ferrum   (Almost picked Ferrum, but if Ferrum's defense can stop the run-could be an upset)

Shenandoah @ Averett  (Shenandoah pulls out a big win after a tough week on the blogs)

NCW @ Methodist  (NCW has it rolling towards playoff heaven)

Greensboro @ Maryville  (MC QB is back healthy against the Pride)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 29, 2009, 04:23:41 PM
CNU @ Ferrum (Ferrum is big and strong up front)
Shenandoah @ Averett (Upset, talk will feed SU)

NCW @ Methodist (I think this one will be close, just hope the Bishops are not looking ahead))


Greensboro @ Maryville( Maryville will be rested and ready to play.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 29, 2009, 04:31:09 PM
CNU

Averett

NCWC

Greensboro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on October 29, 2009, 04:53:31 PM
Quote from: narch on October 29, 2009, 01:52:12 PM


- paint the MU on the 50 yard line (not sure why they stopped painting the M the last 2 years)



mu supporter, if you're good for 1/2 of the $250K, papi and rocket can kick in the rest :)

Narch, when I was there it was up to the Captains/Players to paint the emblems on the field.  We would draw the designs out and then spend Thursday afternoon painting.


If you can convince Uncle Sam to pay me about 10 times my salary then I'll kick in the 250K and help do the work  ;D

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 29, 2009, 05:25:51 PM
Picking with my heart - not head here.

Averett
Ferrum
Methodist
Greensboro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2009, 09:50:23 PM
cnu
averett
maryville

i'm not picking the monarch game...i've tried picking them and they lost, then i tried the reverse approach hoping for a win by picking against them...and they lost - maybe they'll get a "w" if i don't pick them at all :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 30, 2009, 12:00:58 AM
Was planning on going to the CNU @ FC game, but my Mom is in the hospital, so I guess I will be listening on the internet again. I hope the Panthers can pull this one out-
Need the Monarchs to win too...but I am picking NCW

This weeks games

CNU @ Ferrum

Shenandoah @ Averett

NCW @ Methodist

Greensboro @ Maryville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 30, 2009, 10:18:50 AM
not sure if i can participate in the pick-em but heres mine for the heck of it

CNU @ Ferrum (In a very tight game)

Shenandoah @ Averett

NCW @ Methodist (NCW wins big for a third year in a row against MU)

Greensboro @ Maryville (wouldnt be surprised if greensboro upset maryville)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 30, 2009, 11:59:43 AM
Results from week 8:

ProudFightingScot      3-1
Allen-C                     4-0
Kickerdad                  1-3
AUPOP                      2-2
Bishop64                   4-0
Narch                       3-1
WFU34                     2-2
Crazylegg33              Didn't pick
Mosher                    Didn't pick
Rockett                   Didn't pick
GCGullett                 Didn't pick
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 30, 2009, 12:05:02 PM
Totals for the year:

Allen-C                   27-17
ProudFightingScot    26-18
Kickerdad                23-21
Bishop64                 21-16
AUPOP                    20-16
Narch                     14-13
Crazyleggs33             9-9
WFU34                     6-6
Moshergc                  4-3
Rockett                     4-4
GC Gullett                  6-7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 30, 2009, 12:08:59 PM
I better pick with some sense this week or Allen and PFS are goint to run away with this.

This weeks games

CNU @ Ferrum              I am going with Ferrum and home field advantgage.

Shenandoah @ Averett   Averett better be playing one of their best games

NCW @ Methodist          I will be hoping Methodist can pull the upset

Greensboro @ Maryville   GB has been good this year, but MC is way past due
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 30, 2009, 05:40:34 PM
Greensboro wins!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 30, 2009, 10:12:44 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 30, 2009, 05:40:34 PM
Greensboro wins!

We'll see...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 31, 2009, 01:18:56 PM
CNU gets its first score against Ferrum after breaking a 93-yard play down the right side.

Ferrum has done several FB draw plays. Wonder if they're trying to draw CNU into the box so as to open up my dynamic run plays with Vann later or through the air.

EDIT: Ferrum's slow-and-steady strategy works, getting them into the end zone.

Tie game: 7-7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 31, 2009, 01:49:19 PM
Was just showed an interesting score:
Methodist 14
NCWC 10
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 31, 2009, 01:58:53 PM
Ferrum methodically drives the field, tying the score at 14 with just 1:43 left in the half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 31, 2009, 02:28:59 PM
Halftime score   NCWC 28, MU 24
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 31, 2009, 03:56:43 PM
AU 24
SU22

Final!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on October 31, 2009, 03:56:48 PM
What a great effort by the kids!

But it's SU's (1-7) seventh straight loss with 24 to 22 defeat by the hands of the Averett University.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 31, 2009, 03:58:36 PM
CNU too much in the second half-

CNU 28

Ferrum 14

Lowest point total for Ferrum all year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 31, 2009, 04:09:50 PM
Final NCWC 42, Methodist 32     What a game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 31, 2009, 04:35:45 PM
Final
Greensboro 26 (2 defensive scores)
Maryville 12
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 31, 2009, 05:22:48 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on October 31, 2009, 04:35:45 PM
Final
Greensboro 26 (2 defensive scores)
Maryville 12
looks like i was wrong about the pride...4 wins has far exceeded my expectations...i'm hoping they don't get win #5 next weekend :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on October 31, 2009, 05:40:02 PM
looks like i was wrong about the pride...4 wins has far exceeded my expectations...i'm hoping they don't get win #5 next weekend :)
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i would not be surprised if they beat MU next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 31, 2009, 06:51:05 PM
Mosh can sleep thru tomorrow now
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 31, 2009, 08:01:59 PM
Quote from: Milby on October 31, 2009, 03:56:48 PM
What a great effort by the kids!

But it's SU's (1-7) seventh straight loss with 24 to 22 defeat by the hands of the Averett University.




SU is a heck of a ball club. They fought back everytime AU took any advantage. They have nothing to hang there heads about. The running back for SU ( Kyle I think it was) pure beast. Used up all my heart medication..... best of luck to SU.

Hey KickerDad...we had a band today!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SpeedKills on October 31, 2009, 08:52:37 PM
Great job today Methodist. I was glad to see you guys play up to your ability.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 31, 2009, 09:21:47 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on October 31, 2009, 05:40:02 PM
i would not be surprised if they beat MU next week.
considering the pride is 2-10 all time against mu, i would...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 01, 2009, 05:55:03 AM
So who made the trip to Ferrum to see the game? Curious to find out your impressions. Sounded like to me it came down to a battle in the trenches.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 01, 2009, 11:28:56 AM
Felt bad for SU team yesterday.  Really not a bad squad - should have some more wins but made too many critical mistakes and some critical penalities (why they didn't give it to their running back for the 2 point conversion is beyond me.  AU couldn't stop him).  AU also didn't help themselves any by going into a shell offensively in Q4, i.e., stopped passing and giving SU back the opportunities to score. 

Don't know when AU will learn - they move the ball with a balance attack and/or the spread (drive at the end of Q2 nearly 80 yards in 1:30 for go ahead FG or several weeks back against Maryville for the win with 3 minutes to go in the game) or the first 2 drives in Q3 which resulted in TDs.  They don't have the horses up front for a power running game when everyone is expecting the run, i.e., they were stopped several times on 3 & 4th downs with less than a yard.

If they can get by a tough game next week at Ferrum, then they have their fate in their hands - that's all one could ask for.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 01, 2009, 12:34:54 PM
Quote from: narch on October 31, 2009, 09:21:47 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on October 31, 2009, 05:40:02 PM
i would not be surprised if they beat MU next week.
considering the pride is 2-10 all time against mu, i would...

2-10 all time does not mean anything. Greensboro has a new offensive coordinator and their defense is playing much better this year than the past years. MU cant stop the run and their offense is a hit or miss come game day. Only reason they kept up with NCW is because NCW turned the ball over early and gave methodist hope and gave them the enthusiasm that they never play with. It did not help that NCW could not stop MU offense for the majority of the game but NCW was bigger, faster, and stronger. They just didnt play well at all. If the offense of mu comes to play against greensboro it may become another shootout or its going to be a low scoring game. Until the defense can learn how to stop the run then they will not see another win this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 01, 2009, 02:54:52 PM
Stopping the run is exactly what the problem has been lately.  MU ran some kind of nickle package most of the day with 4 down linemen, 2 linebackers and 5 defensive backs.  As usual, the line took on double teams most of the day and got very little support.  Free safety leading in tackles is never good.  since the new me does not call out individuals, all I can say is that MU needs a couple more db's that are willing to hit somebody.  The tackling was less than steller.  Not surprising since MU does not tackle in practice.

Don't be surprised when MU puts up alot of points.  When they are on, they have many good weapons.  If not for a couple dropped passes, the outcome of this game would have been different.
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 01, 2009, 12:34:54 PM
Quote from: narch on October 31, 2009, 09:21:47 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on October 31, 2009, 05:40:02 PM
i would not be surprised if they beat MU next week.
considering the pride is 2-10 all time against mu, i would...

2-10 all time does not mean anything. Greensboro has a new offensive coordinator and their defense is playing much better this year than the past years. MU cant stop the run and their offense is a hit or miss come game day. Only reason they kept up with NCW is because NCW turned the ball over early and gave methodist hope and gave them the enthusiasm that they never play with. It did not help that NCW could not stop MU offense for the majority of the game but NCW was bigger, faster, and stronger. They just didnt play well at all. If the offense of mu comes to play against greensboro it may become another shootout or its going to be a low scoring game. Until the defense can learn how to stop the run then they will not see another win this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 01, 2009, 03:01:01 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 01, 2009, 12:34:54 PM
Quote from: narch on October 31, 2009, 09:21:47 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on October 31, 2009, 05:40:02 PM
i would not be surprised if they beat MU next week.
considering the pride is 2-10 all time against mu, i would...

2-10 all time does not mean anything. Greensboro has a new offensive coordinator and their defense is playing much better this year than the past years. MU cant stop the run and their offense is a hit or miss come game day. Only reason they kept up with NCW is because NCW turned the ball over early and gave methodist hope and gave them the enthusiasm that they never play with. It did not help that NCW could not stop MU offense for the majority of the game but NCW was bigger, faster, and stronger. They just didnt play well at all. If the offense of mu comes to play against greensboro it may become another shootout or its going to be a low scoring game. Until the defense can learn how to stop the run then they will not see another win this season.
Unfortunately I did not see the NCWC/MU game in person. I only had live statistics to go by. Based upon that I have to say that Methodist (in my book) is a much better team than their record indicates. I have no way of knowing if Wesleyan had a "let down" or not, but I don't think you give enough credit to a super performance by a team that gave my Bishops a run for the money! It is not going to be easy in any remaing games for the Bishops. The have to expect the best from each of their opponents. That is what makes a winner. Methidist was no surprise to me as indicated in my pick ums comment. I expected a close game. But, Don't take anything away from the Monarchs. It would not surprise me at all for them to win against Greensboro. It should be close, in fact I would be surprised if either team ran away with the game. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 01, 2009, 03:15:21 PM
Bishop 64.  I don't think NCW had a let down.  They turned the ball over early a couple times and MU took advantage.  Both offenses were moving the ball.  Both teams had TD passes dropped in the end zone and both teams had passes dropped elsewhere that should have been caught.  If you take a look at the MU stats for the year, they have statisically won most of their games as far as producing offense. (Dont look at the AU stats.  Lost that one everyway there was to lose ???)  MU is lacking on the defensive side of the ball of late. Poor tackling is killling them.  Thanks for giving credit where credit is due.  The bishops are a good team and there is not doubt in my mind why they lead the conference.  Compared to the shelacking they gave MU last year, I would say the Monarchs have come a long way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 01, 2009, 04:19:12 PM
Methodist defense has been 4 down lineman and 2 linebackers all year long. they run a 4-2-5 where the two outside backers sometime line up in the box out of the box and even at a deep safety sometimes. the weak olb is horrible. he is slow and is afraid to hit. he has good plays now and then but i think he has far more worse plays. they havent been able to stop the inside run all year and their tackling abilities are below average. they miss too many and musupporter said they dont tackle in practice. They line up in full pads once a week and its thud up. also this past week they practiced in just helmets twice and did tackling drills without pads on. what is a tackling drill going to do for you if your in just helmets?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 01, 2009, 05:48:00 PM
Naturalselection, you are probably right about the 4-2-5.  I guess I assumed it was a 4-3 based on the guy that played earlier in the season.  he was built more like a linebacker.  I wonder if it is a personnel issue since they went from a 3-5 to a 4-2-5? I may be off on my thinking and I surely understand not wanting your starters hurt in practice, but with so many players on the roster, you would think they could manage some real speed situations that include tackling.  The last 3 games - SU, AU, and NCW -- the tackling has been an issue. The down linemen did good at times getting in the backfield but didn't finish.  The pressure on the QB was better than it has been in the past so there are some positives.  It may be to late but I think they would have been better off moving Leary back to linebacker.  He will fill the hole and is not afraid to hit.  There are also some very athletic looking guys on the sideline that look like linebackers to me.  I know 66 had a huge game last week but not so much this week.  Your free safety should never lead the team in tackles.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 01, 2009, 06:07:28 PM
i completely agree with you. there is plenty of talent on that sideline to play linebacker. the player you may be talking about playing in the beginning of the season may have been number 35. he hasnt played since putting the maryville qb out with a concussion. leary is the most physical guy on that defense the past three weeks and it should not be like that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 01, 2009, 07:19:42 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 01, 2009, 06:07:28 PM
i completely agree with you. there is plenty of talent on that sideline to play linebacker. the player you may be talking about playing in the beginning of the season may have been number 35. he hasnt played since putting the maryville qb out with a concussion. leary is the most physical guy on that defense the past three weeks and it should not be like that.

after looking at the roster and stats there are a few linebackers that have not played at all. number 37, 55, and then some more freshmen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 01, 2009, 07:42:47 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 01, 2009, 03:15:21 PM
Bishop 64.  I don't think NCW had a let down.  They turned the ball over early a couple times and MU took advantage.  Both offenses were moving the ball.  Both teams had TD passes dropped in the end zone and both teams had passes dropped elsewhere that should have been caught.  If you take a look at the MU stats for the year, they have statisically won most of their games as far as producing offense. (Dont look at the AU stats.  Lost that one everyway there was to lose ???)  MU is lacking on the defensive side of the ball of late. Poor tackling is killling them.  Thanks for giving credit where credit is due.  The bishops are a good team and there is not doubt in my mind why they lead the conference.  Compared to the shelacking they gave MU last year, I would say the Monarchs have come a long way.

I agree with you that MU has come a long way. As I mentioned earlier, I have no way of knowing if the Bishops had a let down or not, I was not at the game. The only thing I know about MU's personel is that Teague is a quality Quarterback. They may have others on the sidelines that could perform better. I guess my point is, the Bishops will probably face fired up teams the remainder of the season. I have no beef with the Bishops or MU other than the fact than the fact that the live stream audio kept messing up on my computer, So I sat and watched live statistics. That is what I based my opinion on. Either way, I am tickled pink the Bishops won. I have felt all year that MU has not played up to my expectations and that is certainly not based on personal knowledge. Either way, it was exciting, especially from watching the Live stats! I do think they have a shot at Greensboro. LOL :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 01, 2009, 08:30:23 PM
Narch,

  I remember one of those.  maybe two..hits to the head are catching up to me. .. Im willing to bet methodist will catch the loss this week though.  Greensboro is playing defense and offense TOGETHER!!!  Im not sure if that has ever happened before.

Proud to see the Pride playing well!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 02, 2009, 08:50:21 AM
Where are all the CNU posters? I have not seen any comments about their win...I am hoping that one or two of them went to the game. Would like to know their perspective.

Ryan T. You were there- what happened in the second half....Seems like we could not stop them on 3rd downs...too much Tunde? Time of possession was very lopsided in the second half it seemed to me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 02, 2009, 08:54:39 AM


Proud to see the Pride playing well!

They are well past due for some quality wins....I had them picked to finish eighth. They will probably be fifth or fourth. Great job for GC- I still think their coach should be coach of the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 02, 2009, 09:22:42 AM
I'm amazed at what the majority of topics are discussed on this board lately.  The conference race is the tightest in probably years with the very real potential that it could end up in a 3 way tie for the championship (NCWU, CNU and AU).  In addition, the championship could very likely be decided on the last day of the season, yet barely a word on that topic. 

If the 3 - way happens, while exciting and would justly reward the players from those teams that worked hard during the season (and that does not imply the other teams did not work hard), it will probably leave 2 teams disappointed by the NCAA because only 1 team will represent the conference in the playoffs. 

For example, I would think there might be opinions/discussions as how exciting the race for the championship is this year, what the various contenders need to do to win it, who has to stumble, etc., or would any.  Even what the conference and it members need to do to avoid the disappointment of sending only 1 representative to the playoffs in the future (because it's happened before) if there are co-champions and worthly of the opportunity.

Instead the buzz lately is largely about teams in the second division of the conference for instance MU or other teams in the lower part of the standings.  Not to disparge MU for example, but let's look at it realistically.  They have won 2 games, slipping by Guilford by 1 (who's next to last in the ODAC and has won only 2 games) and Shenandoah in OT, a truly snake-biten team but still only 1 win and last in the conference.  The mere winning percentage of these teams is a combined .187 (3 - 13).  This is a team that didn't even get a 1st down until mid-way thru the 4th quarter against AU a few weeks back.  Against some of the stronger teams, they have been largely uncompetitive.

Obviously, everyone posts the topics they want to discuss and we're all fans (which is short for fanatic) of our respective teams, I just find it interesting.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 02, 2009, 10:59:44 AM
WFU34, it would be great to talk about conference championships and playoffs if some of us had a dog in the fight.  Most of us only have the time and energy to follow our respective teams but I do have an opinion about the leaders of the conference.

Of the 3 teams battling for the conference, it is anybody's to take.  I only hope it doesn't come down to a coin flip.  So far, AU is the only team MU didn't move the ball against.  I think the team that shores up their defense is going to take the prize.  All of them have high power offenses.  Comes down to who can stop who.

You mentioned how bad MU is this year and all the discussion about them and SU.  Well, when your team is struggling, everyone has an opinion of how to fix it.  If MU was leading the conference, what would we have to talk about?  If that were the case, I am sure you would see more posts from the schools chasing them.

As far as MU not being competitive, you are a little off base.  By the score of a couple games you could get that impression.  So happens that last night I did a little research into the games MU has played this year.  With the exception of the AU game, MU has out performed or performed to the same level offensively as every team they have faced.  However, Wins and Loses are what get you to the top of the standings.  MU has done a complete 180 in the last 3 years.  They were good defensively and couldn't score.  Lately, they move the ball at will but can't stop any one.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: whaley123 on November 02, 2009, 11:03:30 AM
dont ncwc have the upper hand when they beat cnu and au lost to cnu looks like ncwc would have already won the conf.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 02, 2009, 11:13:58 AM
MU Total Offense this year vs. their opponents:

Campbell   544    MU 351     MU Loss
Guilford      233    MU 326     MU wins
E+H           349     MU 385     MU Loss
Maryville    397     MU 318     MU Loss
Ferrum      544     MU 407      MU Loss
SU             330     MU 265     MU Wins
AU             423     MU 114     MU Loss
NCW          525    MU  444     MU loss

MU defensively has to step up if this is ever going to change.  Most schools would be happy with the offensive numbers MU has produced this year with a couple of exceptions - the SU and AU game.  Just have to get the whole package together.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 02, 2009, 11:17:39 AM
Quote from: whaley123 on November 02, 2009, 11:03:30 AM
dont ncwc have the upper hand when they beat cnu and au lost to cnu looks like ncwc would have already won the conf.

Not yet but they do have the upper hand going into the final two weeks. They win out its all cut and dried but if AU can get past Ferrum ( easier said than done) then the AU / NCWC game comes down to either one champ, two, or depending on CNU three co champs.  If all the stars line up right it could be a pretty wild last weekend come November 14th.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 02, 2009, 11:18:28 AM
Quote from: whaley123 on November 02, 2009, 11:03:30 AM
dont ncwc have the upper hand when they beat cnu and au lost to cnu looks like ncwc would have already won the conf.

I would think that to be the case if they all win out.  Do any of the top teams play each other over the next 2 weeks?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 02, 2009, 11:33:51 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on October 31, 2009, 08:01:59 PM
Quote from: Milby on October 31, 2009, 03:56:48 PM
What a great effort by the kids!

But it's SU's (1-7) seventh straight loss with 24 to 22 defeat by the hands of the Averett University.




SU is a heck of a ball club. They fought back everytime AU took any advantage. They have nothing to hang there heads about. The running back for SU ( Kyle I think it was) pure beast. Used up all my heart medication..... best of luck to SU.

Hey KickerDad...we had a band today!!!!

I had a gut feeling that SU was going to give Averett a rough time. They have been in every game this year from start to finish. Sounds like Averett (from what WFU34 says)  shut down in the 4th quarter and tried to be too conservative. I can't judge because I wasn't there to see. Just going on what every one else is saying, the stats and the score . I will say this, unless Averett plays 60+ minutes of football against Ferrum and plays with reckless abandonment the entire game,  Ferrum is going to run that option all day long with great success. Last year and in 2006 Averett stopped that option with great success but the two years I traveled to Ferrum, they run over us all day. Again, Averett neds to play a complete game against Ferrum and think about them only. Don't be looking ahead to NCWC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 02, 2009, 11:43:44 AM
The reason no one is talking from CNU is because we got blasted at home and to talk of the playoffs now is a joke. No offense to any team in our league, but if you get beat that bad by one of the teams in our conference at home, you have no real shot of doing anything in the playoffs. Only the AQ will make the playoffs from the conference, because no one in the conference has beaten a national power to warrant an extra team getting in.

Finish up strong CNU players but a lot of you all need to work HARDER during the offseason and rethink your goals as a CNU football player. We need to win the South Region title and compete for National Title. Winning the conference and going to the playoffs at CNU is an expectation not an accomplishment, so you will get a little slap on the a$$ and that's it. Complete those never been done goals and then you will cement yourself in our young history.

Good luck to the eventual AQ winner. When the playoffs start we are the USA South.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 02, 2009, 11:47:07 AM
Mosh....come on, you've got to remember more than one of our battles  ;D

All this talk about MU not tackling in practice has got me wondering, do other colleges tackle in practice this time of year?  I played for two different schools and neither of them tackled in practice during the season.  Just seems like a lot risk with not that much reward.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 02, 2009, 12:15:23 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on November 02, 2009, 11:47:07 AM
Mosh....come on, you've got to remember more than one of our battles  ;D

All this talk about MU not tackling in practice has got me wondering, do other colleges tackle in practice this time of year?  I played for two different schools and neither of them tackled in practice during the season.  Just seems like a lot risk with not that much reward.

You are right.  Tackling this time of year is risky...............unless tackling is a major problem.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 02, 2009, 12:26:37 PM
AU Pop - if you look at the play detail in the stats of the SU game, you'll see all the AU plays were on the ground in Q4.  Not looking at it now - but I don't recall a series that went more than 6 plays, possibly 1 first down.  You're absolutely right on the point that they can't look past Ferrum.  They're not that good that they can simply throw their helmets on the field and expect a win.

Glad to see prior comments generated some feedback.  To the CNU supporter - interesting view.  Was that the reason that they barely escaped Greensboro?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 02, 2009, 01:04:08 PM
WFU,

the way I see it, after the beatdown at cnu, I feel there is little talk about the top 3 teams, because we don't see anybody beating NCW. The only way I see CNU getting a title is with a 3 way tie or if NCW loses 2 and a bunch of other things happen. I haven't studied it, but I would think one more win for NCW and they're the champs. I predict tht will happen this weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 02, 2009, 01:17:12 PM
If all three teams (CNU, NCWC and Averett) win this weekend and CNU wins it final and Averett wins over NCWC.........who goes to the playoff's?

Keeping in mind, the following

CNU beat Averett
NCWC beat CNU

If Averett beats NCWC then what?

Averett and NCWC would still have the better overall records with just 1 conference loss and 2 over all loses.

Still alot can happen ...... SU could finally get one at home at NCWC if they get caught looking ahead and Averett still has to get past Ferrum which they haven't been able to win at Ferrum in how many years?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 02, 2009, 01:24:03 PM
If anyone intends to beat NCW, they better come out throwing the ball.  I only watched them play MU but from what I saw, and it almost worked, throwing the ball is the only way you can soften up that run defense.  Their front 4 is very big and very athletic. Defensively you are gonna have to pressure their QB.  He tended to make some poor judgments when under pressure.  Resulted in a couple turnovers. I also think a little luck will help out.

Hey, but what do I know.  Just play hard guys.  I wish every young man strapping on the pads for the next 2 weeks all the luck in the world.  Whoever comes out on top deserves it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 02, 2009, 01:27:59 PM
Narch, were you at the game Saturday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 02, 2009, 01:37:07 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 01, 2009, 08:30:23 PM
Narch,

  I remember one of those.  maybe two..hits to the head are catching up to me. .. Im willing to bet methodist will catch the loss this week though.  Greensboro is playing defense and offense TOGETHER!!!  Im not sure if that has ever happened before.

Proud to see the Pride playing well!

Going to be interesting to say the least.  New  GC offensive coordinator is the father of the MU qb.  I am glad to see their program moving forward.  I just hope their foot slips off the clutch and they ram it in reverse this weekend. ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2009, 02:12:24 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 02, 2009, 01:27:59 PM
Narch, were you at the game Saturday?
no...family obligations - in fact, i'm not sure if i'll be at the cnu game, either

...nobody is talking about the championship race right now 'cause it's pretty simple...the road to the usasac champiohship goes through rocky mount, nc (via danville, technically) - if ncwc wins over averett on november 14, they are the conference champ...regardless of what they do vs. shenandoah this weekend - ncwc is the only team that controls their own destiny right now

if the monarchs win the turnover battle this weekend, they will beat the pride for the 11th time in 13 meetings...if not, the pride might get win #3 vs. the monarchs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 02, 2009, 05:36:29 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 02, 2009, 12:26:37 PM
Glad to see prior comments generated some feedback.  To the CNU supporter - interesting view.  Was that the reason that they barely escaped Greensboro?

I didn't know football was all of a sudden horseshoes or hand grenades.  A win is a win.  cnusfinest54 was referring to how CNU football was when he played.  When we stepped on the field we had a swagger and it's something that has been lost at CNU.    I personally never lost a conference game at home in my 4 years at CNU.  He is absolutely right when he says making the playoffs was not an accomplishment, but expected.  As alum, we expected CNU to build on the foundation we built and continue to excel and to be in national contention year in and year out.  CNU has a strong following and coming in 2nd in not acceptable.  Any player, coach, alum, or fan knows this and I fully expect CNU to continue to get better and back where we belong.       
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 02, 2009, 06:41:45 PM
CNUAlUM9 - interesting comment about national contention year in and year out. 

Correct me if I'm wrong but since 2000, although CNU has gotten to the play-offs 6 times and should be congratulated for that - the overall NCAA performance is 2 - 6, getting to the second round just twice (never getting past that).  Not necessarily what one would consider threatening for a national championship year in and year out.

CNU's recent record in conference play has been outstanding with only 9 losses in 9 years (counting this season), but that might be changing going forward.  First there were fewer teams in the conference and the play has been improving.  If you review the record, several of those years that the CNU made the playoffs they had 3 losses - an indication that they were able to beat up on the "little sisters of the poor" in the conference to get to the playoffs but also the opportunity to improve against competition outside the USA South.  (Compare your coach's overall record at CNU to just the in conference record which is 44 - 8 and that bears it out).

I'm not bashing CNU's program, just point out what it is.  It's had a number of accomplishments that other programs in the USA South would like to have achieved.  It's a good program in a middle of the pack conference, but has a way to go to be considered a contender for a national title year in and year out.  Are the alumni now restless with the coach since CNU has already lost 3 games this year?

Even thought the conference is not a national power, if the teams are competitive with each other, we can enjoy the games and the run to a conference championship.  That's what's its all about.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 02, 2009, 08:46:14 PM
CNUAlUM9 - just thought I'd check your web site.  CNU's overall record since 2000 (prior to 2009) is 57 - 27 or a .679 winning percentage.  The in conference record over that period is 44 - 8 or a .846.  That means the out of conference record is 13 - 19 or a .406 winning percentage. 

Add this year's YTD record and it goes to 62 - 30 overall or a .674 winning percentage, which is very good.  Conference record is now 48 - 9 or a .830 winning percentage.  Out of conference is now 14 - 21 or .400 winning percentage and there aren't any Mt. Unions on that schedule.  Just simply proves out that CNU has dominated an average conference but has not faired well against outside competition.  Similar to the Atlanta Braves winning all those division titles and rarely getting to the World Series.

Enjoy what you are.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2009, 09:19:45 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 02, 2009, 08:46:14 PMEnjoy what you are.
every gradute and fan of every team in this conference would love to enjoy what cnu is...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 02, 2009, 09:26:37 PM
CNU out of conference record is not the best but what needs to be taken into consideration is what their out of conference opponents are compared to the rest of the USA south teams non conference opponents. granted emory and henry cleaned up usa south this year but has yet to do anything in their conference. my opinion is outside conference games should be hard or someone you match up close to but i do not believe there should be any gimme games. i think the harder outside conference teams you play the better your team grows and sees what it takes to be the best.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 02, 2009, 10:28:29 PM
I don't have the exact figures.....but I think I'm close......in CNU's 36 non conference games (14-21) I think somewhere around 25 of those games were against ranked teams. CNU continually plays one of the toughest non conference schedule in the nation. CNU would love to play Mt Union...schedules just don't work. But I must admit, until CNU starts playing, and winning, games after Thanksgiving, they are not national title contenders.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 02, 2009, 10:29:11 PM
There's no doubt in my mind that the teams CNU has scheduled in nonconference play over its short history has helped put that program on the national map.

Sure, the overall nonconference mark may not be stellar, but there are enough really good wins in there that make that kind of schedule worthwhile. Plus, CNU was brand spankin' new in 2001. Any reasonable person should allow at least 2 or 3 or 4 years for that program to build momentum and a recruitment base. Sure enough, it was around that time when the team became more competitive against the Bridgewaters, Salisburys and, at times, the Rowans out there. All of those opponents were consistent playoff-caliber squads at that time.

And let me not forget the win over UMHB in 2006 -- which to this day ranks among the top 3 football games I have ever seen.

With this kind of history, I'm willing to forgive a CNU team (suffering injuries to its starting quarterback, tailback and fullback) for having a somewhat "down" year.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 03, 2009, 05:47:15 AM
Allen C., is there an address for the stadium at Ferrum that I can plug into the GPS? Looked on Ferrums web site but didn't seem to find it.

Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 03, 2009, 05:48:57 AM
The way I look at this, CNU has been the class of the conference in many respects. They run a high quality program, have huge alumni support,excellent facilities, and a very consistent team. Again they were predicted to finish first this year, and they may...but it will not be easy at this point.
What was not predicted was the large amount of injuries to their team, An NCW team that would be this dominant, teams having to rebuild because players that were expected to return did not, and a Greensboro team that has really made a statement on the field when just a few months ago, it looked like the entire school would be closed.....
This has been a pretty fun year as for the first time in a while, its a real race. Ferrum will not contend, but there is still a race.
Lastly, I do agree with Natural Selection that the harder non conference competition you have, the more likely you are to enhance your own teams ability...There are teams that have done this consistently Like the top 3 teams, and teams that have not. Difficult scheduling will help, but you have to be able to recruit high quality  athletes. Some schools in this conference have more difficulty with this than others. When tough non conference games are being won by the USA South teams, them we may see a USA South team in the 2nd, or even third rounds.

So what about recruiting strategies in the conference? Is there not a HUGE gap between the schools of the conference as far as recruiting goes?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 03, 2009, 05:51:25 AM
Here is the address-

435 Ferrum Mountain Road
Ferrum, VA  24088

That will get you to the campus...from there is should not be difficult!  I am hoping to go, but not sure yet.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 03, 2009, 06:45:15 AM
Quote from: Allen C on November 03, 2009, 05:51:25 AM
Here is the address-

435 Ferrum Mountain Road
Ferrum, VA  24088

That will get you to the campus...from there is should not be difficult!  I am hoping to go, but not sure yet.


     Ahhhh, the memories of jogging Ferrum Mountain. A trip to the end of my driveway pretty much finishes me off these days.  :D Thanks Allen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2009, 08:06:22 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on November 03, 2009, 05:47:15 AM
Allen C., is there an address for the stadium at Ferrum that I can plug into the GPS? Looked on Ferrums web site but didn't seem to find it.

Thanks
to quote su97 from the hoops board...end of the world, turn left :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 03, 2009, 09:55:21 AM
Quote from: narch on November 03, 2009, 08:06:22 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on November 03, 2009, 05:47:15 AM
Allen C., is there an address for the stadium at Ferrum that I can plug into the GPS? Looked on Ferrums web site but didn't seem to find it.

Thanks
to quote su97 from the hoops board...end of the world, turn left :)

I concur, and it's pretty much a "Goat's Path" that you ride on. Add an hour on to what Map Quest tells you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 03, 2009, 10:24:08 AM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on November 02, 2009, 05:36:29 PM
As alum, we expected CNU to build on the foundation we built and continue to excel and to be in national contention year in and year out.  

My statement was that as alum we expected for CNU to grow into a team that would be in national contention year in and year out, based off the foundation that we built.  The foundation we built was a team that was continually getting better.  I was 2-3 in the playoffs in my career.  Can you find anybody on the USA South board with a better record then that?  I know it's not great, but if CNU continually grew from that point then yes they would be in national contention.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 03, 2009, 10:28:47 AM
Quote from: Allen C on November 03, 2009, 05:48:57 AM
So what about recruiting strategies in the conference? Is there not a HUGE gap between the schools of the conference as far as recruiting goes?

i think there is a huge gap in recruiting but not as large as people may think. schools such as Methodist and Greensboro get quality athletes but they dont do anything with them. What i mean is look at Methodist for example. they have 20 something seniors and their record reflects a young team. they get athletes year in and year out but their program does not know how to get these players to the next level. their workout program is below average and they also struggle keeping players around. this years senior class is the largest ever. most kids leave after their first year when they realize methodist isnt the program they thought it was when they came on their visit. now a school like ncw or cnu where they have a solid lifting program to take their good freshmen athletes and turn them into a great athlete by their junior or senior year is what i think gives the better teams the recruiting edge. NCW team is very fast, very strong but you cant tell me that every kid on that team came to that school like that already. ive heard that they lift twice a day in the off season and they visit the weight room quite frequently in season. then there is the aspect of the facilities to help out with recruiting. the field, weight room, locker room, class rooms, dorms. all these things play a role. and lastly if the player doesnt buy into the program his first year hes not coming back and methodist is struggling with this. the majority of their recruits see what goes on behind closed doors and do not trust or buy into their coaching techniques.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 03, 2009, 10:51:43 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on November 03, 2009, 05:47:15 AM
Allen C., is there an address for the stadium at Ferrum that I can plug into the GPS? Looked on Ferrums web site but didn't seem to find it.

Thanks

If you get to the campus, you can't miss the stadium.  Good luck AU.  I for one am pulling for you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 03, 2009, 11:23:28 AM
Naturalselection, you couldn't be more accurate with you comments about seniors and conditioning at MU.  I had this discussion with one of their players(senior) just last week.  Seems the mind set is that MU is looking toward the future.  That is the belief of some of the seniors on the team.  Look at how many freshmen and sophomores are getting the majority of playing time in key positions.  If they are looking toward the future, they have been looking a long time without finding it.  You cannot replace senior leadership no matter what.  The success of any program depends solely on the upperclassmen who have been in a system for 3-4 years.  Working your new players in a giving them reps is understandable, but when the s*&^ hits the fan, those upperclassmen are the ones who know how to get it done.

Weightlifting, according to this senior, is once a week and since the USC incident players are not allowed to do lifting of any type without a partner.  I don't disagree with the policy for safety reasons but I would think they could do some type of lifting by themselves.

MU practice yesterday consisted of "walk through s".  I guess times have changed.  Walk through s and helmet only practices used to be for the last practice before a game. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 03, 2009, 11:51:58 AM
Quote from: Allen C on November 03, 2009, 05:48:57 AM
So what about recruiting strategies in the conference? Is there not a HUGE gap between the schools of the conference as far as recruiting goes?

Having only been around this year I dont really know how much of a gap there is but in looking at rosters one thing stands out. CNU owns the 757 area as far as the number of players brought in. Some people, including myself will argue that the I-64 corridor from Richmond to Chesapeake is the best high school ball in the state. Right now CNU owns it and the other schools need to be more proactive in hitting it, especially AA ball because CNU has just about every kid who was either AD or AR or AS in the local district. Took a quick count, included Richmond to Chesapeake schools.

CNU               45 players
NCWC            28
Ferrum            9
AU                   9
Greensboro     2
Shenandoah  12
Methodist         0

NCWC seem to be getting there fair share as well. I didnt check Maryville as I am sure thier recruiting base in very different than the others. Think the numbers speak for themselves.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on November 03, 2009, 12:01:00 PM
It will be interesting to see if the new football program at Old Dominion University will have an effect on the recruiting of 757 players.  I suspect that a player can walk on at state school ODU for the same cost as playing at CNU.  They will have to choose from D1 FBS or D3 at CNU or NCW.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 03, 2009, 12:03:05 PM
va for gboro?  i dont think that area matters at the d3level.  ncwes is getting some east coast nc talent i can promise you that.

as for recruiting this could be a good yr for gboro to nab some talent with a young qb and hoopla about improvement etc...

6-4 possible?

If gboro beats mu then i think i have to make the trip to su to watch them play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 03, 2009, 12:13:23 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 03, 2009, 12:03:05 PM
va for gboro?  i dont think that area matters at the d3level.  ncwes is getting some east coast nc talent i can promise you that.

as for recruiting this could be a good yr for gboro to nab some talent with a young qb and hoopla about improvement etc...

6-4 possible?

If gboro beats mu then i think i have to make the trip to su to watch them play.

Just threw them in, my son had a friend that played there so checked Greensboro just for the heck of it. Only reason I checked Methodist is because we had gone down to look, was curios if anyone else had ended up there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 03, 2009, 12:36:04 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 03, 2009, 11:23:28 AM


MU practice yesterday consisted of "walk through s".  I guess times have changed.  Walk through s and helmet only practices used to be for the last practice before a game. 

Almost all programs I have been associated with use Monday as a conditioning day and a day to install that week's game plan.  Most do this in just helmets or in helmets and shoulder pads.  Not saying all programs do it this way, but a majority do.  Most guys are still pretty beat up from the game on Saturday come Monday afternoon, and the last thing they need is to beat on each other.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 03, 2009, 01:16:12 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on November 03, 2009, 12:36:04 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 03, 2009, 11:23:28 AM


MU practice yesterday consisted of "walk through s".  I guess times have changed.  Walk through s and helmet only practices used to be for the last practice before a game.  

Almost all programs I have been associated with use Monday as a conditioning day and a day to install that week's game plan.  Most do this in just helmets or in helmets and shoulder pads.  Not saying all programs do it this way, but a majority do.  Most guys are still pretty beat up from the game on Saturday come Monday afternoon, and the last thing they need is to beat on each other.

You seem like you are up to speed on things so maybe you can answer a question for me.  Since the new way of doing things is walk throughs, helmet only practice, no contact, and basically "preparing for the next game", how is it a coach uses this level of competition to determine one player is suddenly better than another?  Is it really possible to gauge a players ability at this low level of intensity or is it just who the coaches favorite is for the week?  Not being a wise guy, just wondering.

As far as game plans are concerned, that sounds right for the offense, but if you run the exact same defense every Saturday, what exactly are they installing?  And don't you actually have to hit someone in order to get "beat up"?  Now that was being a wise guy ;D

Seriously, if one player isn't getting the job done, how is it determined, outside of game conditions, who can get the job done?  The reason I ask is I have seen some personnel changes and the new players game stats are not what the player they replaced was producing.  I can't speak on how it is done past the high school level and was just curious.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 03, 2009, 01:47:47 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 03, 2009, 05:48:57 AM


So what about recruiting strategies in the conference? Is there not a HUGE gap between the schools of the conference as far as recruiting goes?

Wins and Loses.  You want top talent to play for your school you better produce wins.  Consider that AU, GC, MU are all within a short distance to Greensboro, Raleigh, and Charlotte NC.  As far as facilities it is a wash among all three.  You want to convince a player to come up with the type of money to go to those schools you better produce wins and you better have a coaching staff that knows what to do with those players when they get there.

Based on this theory, AU and GC will have a significant advantage recruiting this coming session.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 03, 2009, 02:44:04 PM
WFU34 we will enjoy what we are and I will continue to expect more out of a program that I helped build. Year 1 we only lost 2 games at home and ended up winning the conference in the programs first year. Year 2, only home loss was to Rowan, a national powerhouse and ended the season by improving from the 01 playoff blowout by challenging a very explosive W&J team. Year 3, beat a top ranked Bridgewater team at home, beat a very good Muhlenberg team in the 1st round of the playoffs and the only home loss of the year came in the playoffs to the eventual South Region Champs Bridgewater. Year 4, 1 home loss to Rowan by 1 point, beat a good McDaniel team, beat a top 10 Bridgewater team again, and beat an undefeated top 10 Salisbury team on the road in the playoffs before losing to another explosive W&J team in the second round.

In our first 4 years our fans only saw us lose 5 times at home with 2 losses by the hands of Rowan and 1 by Bridgewater, won 2 playoff games, 4 conference titles, and defeated several top 25 ranked D3 teams.  After our 1st 2 seasons we expected to win the conference and shifted our focus to making a name for ourselves on the national scene which we accomplished. A lot of people want to use the public vs private debate as a reason for a lot of CNU's success but the bottom line is it all comes down to attitude and player/coaches expectations. Take NCW for example. Not only have they beaten CNU a couple times in the last few years but they have taken us to the woodshed at HOME  in big time games. Our nice stadium, facilities, and lower tuition didn't save our a$$ then because NCW didn't care. Their players and coaches got in their minds that they were going to beat CNU's a$$ and they did it.

Like CNUALUM9 said we were building a national contender and no one could argue with our resume in a short period of time. Years 1-4 we improved our program and I had hoped that we would continue that push forward.  To sum up what we were building in 04 CNU did not get the AQ and still made it to the playoffs with a pool C bid because of our wins against top programs and willingness to play a tough non conference schedule.  And I am not trying to relive any glory days all I am saying is I am and will always be a Captain and I feel a lot of current Captains are not getting it done. If the new kids don't want to play top teams and win then the Alums don't want them in OUR program. If your goal is just to put on a jersey and play a little football after high school then Virginia has a lot of semi pro teams that will gladly take them.  Coach K promised me before I came to CNU that we would play in big games and play the best teams that d3 had to offer. All he asked of us was when given the stage that we did our part. That's expectations and that's why I went to CNU because I was sold that he would make me a winner and I bought in.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 03, 2009, 03:13:58 PM
WFU34,

What are you smoking? CNU schedules the toughest non conference schedule available. You suggested that we haven't scheduled any Mt. Unions. Right now there are only a few teams that are in that upper tier. Have you ever heard of UMHB? I would consider them one of the BEST in the nation. We went 1 and 1 against them. That being said, CNU is not a national power. We just expect to compete in the playoffs each year and vie for the national championship. We want to take one more step each year. Hopefully stepping all the way to the top eventually.

To the CNU players, wake up. Where is that swagger? Let's get it back. We can't control NCWC or Averett. Focus on what we can control. Win out and let the chips fall where they may.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 03, 2009, 03:46:40 PM
CNUSfinest54 - Obviously you have an emotional investment in your program which is good and no one is knocking the success CNU has had.  You should be proud of it.  All that is pointed out was the comment about being a national contender year in and year.  Currently the facts don't support that, doesn't mean it's not a goal and/or it won't happen - just not yet.  

Simple fact is the record in this decade is largely built on the success within the USAC, which is in the lower half of DIII in respect to overall conference strength.  That's still a tremendous accomplishment as you can only play the games on your schedule.  Over the same period of time the non-conference record is 14 - 21 or .400.  You played possibly tougher non-conference opponets but that doesn't change the overall results.  As time goes on, CNU may.  

That is not an indictment of the program or the aspirations of your coach or the players there, past or present.    All schools should want to test themselves against the best competition available.  To be the best, you have to beat the best competition, not just play them.  That's the only point that was being made.  








Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 03, 2009, 04:07:46 PM
Crazylegs33 - You CNU supporters are extremely sensitive.  No one is questioning CNU's willingness to schedule the best non-conference schedule possible.  The fact that you're 1 -1 against UHMC is great, but North Carolina beat Virginia Tech the other night but that doesn't make them a national contender.

Without question, since 2000, CNU has demonstrated that's its the most consistant program in the USAC, the number of wins and titles support that.  The goal to develop into a program that potentially contends for the national championship on a consistant basis is an good objective.  The only point is that the performance against out of conference competition or in the playoffs does not support that at this point in time. 

Possibly it will in the future.  But I doubt seriously that any of the true powers in DIII are looking at the potential 2009 playoff brackets and hoping to avoid the USAC representative.  And that's not dishing any of the other schools either.  It takes time for either a team or conference to raise its national persception.  The best way to do that is simply win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 03, 2009, 04:14:56 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on November 03, 2009, 11:51:58 AM
Quote from: Allen C on November 03, 2009, 05:48:57 AM
So what about recruiting strategies in the conference? Is there not a HUGE gap between the schools of the conference as far as recruiting goes?

Having only been around this year I dont really know how much of a gap there is but in looking at rosters one thing stands out. CNU owns the 757 area as far as the number of players brought in. Some people, including myself will argue that the I-64 corridor from Richmond to Chesapeake is the best high school ball in the state. Right now CNU owns it and the other schools need to be more proactive in hitting it, especially AA ball because CNU has just about every kid who was either AD or AR or AS in the local district. Took a quick count, included Richmond to Chesapeake schools.

CNU               45 players
NCWC            28
Ferrum            9
AU                   9
Greensboro     2
Shenandoah  12
Methodist         0

NCWC seem to be getting there fair share as well. I didnt check Maryville as I am sure thier recruiting base in very different than the others. Think the numbers speak for themselves.

Not sure where Averett is concentrating their efforts now, but for the previous four years they recruited heavy in Florida. Four years ago when my son was recruited, they did send someone to the high school which is in Suffolk, Va. and butts up against NC line. NCWC was also there. He got more attention with his highlite tape from other schools such as SU, Liberty, Bridgewater and UVA Wise. He chose Averett because that was his best chance to start his freshman year.  There have been a couple of others from his school that went to NCWC and a couple from the other local schools that went to Greensboro and Bridgwater.

As far as the practice, Averett took off on Monday and lifted, went full speed Tuesday through Thursday (full pads) and walk through on Friday. things may be different this year but that's what my son went through.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 03, 2009, 04:28:14 PM
Averett scheduled Mt. Union back in 2006 and 2007. Got there a$$ kicked in both games. But the coach knew this would happen, however he wanted the players to see what they had to do in order to get to the top level. In 2006 it worked and had positive impact on the team. They lost only two other games that year. One to Wesley and CNU. The CNU game was at CNU and didn't get decided until the final few minutes. Averett and CNU shared the conference title that year. CNU went on to the playoffs because of the win over Averett. The following year Averett traveled to Mt. Union and made history (75 points in first half) .....Oh, by the way, the points were scored by Mt. Union. Averett had graduated 26 seniors and didn't have the experience to deal with Mt. or anyone else for that matter the entire year. They turned it around last year and went 5-5 and again we gave CNU a battle at CNU.
Sorry CNU guys, don't have the history and wins that you have so we consider some of the games "Moral Victory".
I would love to see a CNU/Mt. Union game but only if CNU is stacked as they have been the past several years. If they are rebuilding it may not be a pretty sight. I have seen the Mt. Union team twice now in person. They were close in size to a VaTech, NC team. The coach is a wizard and gets the best performance out of his players that is possible. They have one player in the pro's now (Garcon) I think he is with the Colts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2009, 05:13:05 PM
Quote from: HSC85 on November 03, 2009, 12:01:00 PM
It will be interesting to see if the new football program at Old Dominion University will have an effect on the recruiting of 757 players.  I suspect that a player can walk on at state school ODU for the same cost as playing at CNU.  They will have to choose from D1 FBS or D3 at CNU or NCW.

ODU is FCS.......or the old 1-AA
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 03, 2009, 04:07:46 PMYou CNU supporters are extremely sensitive. 

Shut up. We are not sensitive.  :D ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 03, 2009, 05:51:45 PM
I have a Son in Law who coaches in the Western Part of North Carolina. He tells me a lot of kids miss out on DIII Footbal simply because no one pays any attention to them. The school he coaches has been a 2A State Champion 3 out of the past 4 years, but he has never had a DIII coach interested enough to really go after them. There are a lot of good caliber football players in the Western Part of North Carolina, but it is not recruited as well as other areas. The area has no DIII teams and many of the Kids are not aware of the possibilities for them in DIII. There is no doubt that thet the Richmond to Virginia Beach area is a hot spot. but I wonder how many other Hot spots could be out there.  Just asking why. May :)be someone could fill me in.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 03, 2009, 06:03:58 PM
CNU85 - well thought out, reasoned response.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 03, 2009, 06:12:40 PM
As to recruiting areas - AU has more kids from Florida than any other state and will probably continue (30+).  A key reason is the vast talent pool with virtually few options for high schoolers.  If they aren't recruited to the 7 1A schools in the state or the 2 - 3 1AA there is very few options.  No D-II or D-III there.

If you look at the skill positions, virtually all of Averett's are from Florida, i.e., speed.  I would say they probably have the most overall team speed in the conference this year.  Only problem is that they need some more big "country lineman" to capitalize on their speed.

The game is about match-ups and although Averett has speed, their size was exposed when they played CNU this year where they simply were outmanned on both sides of the ball by 25 - 30 lbs a man and got worn out.  They've also have trouble when they try to grind it out, for instance against SU last week they were stopped on several 3rd/4th and short.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 03, 2009, 06:48:30 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 03, 2009, 06:12:40 PM
As to recruiting areas - AU has more kids from Florida than any other state and will probably continue (30+).  A key reason is the vast talent pool with virtually few options for high schoolers.  If they aren't recruited to the 7 1A schools in the state or the 2 - 3 1AA there is very few options.  No D-II or D-III there.

If you look at the skill positions, virtually all of Averett's are from Florida, i.e., speed.  I would say they probably have the most overall team speed in the conference this year.  Only problem is that they need some more big "country lineman" to capitalize on their speed.

The game is about match-ups and although Averett has speed, their size was exposed when they played CNU this year where they simply were outmanned on both sides of the ball by 25 - 30 lbs a man and got worn out.  They've also have trouble when they try to grind it out, for instance against SU last week they were stopped on several 3rd/4th and short.



Very true but the O Line as a whole is pretty young. With the exception of 1 guard and the center ( both JRs) all the other starters are freshman and sophomores. There is size its just young and not quite fully developed. Plus its fairly deep, several 300 pounders that are freshman, given a little time to develop I believe the O line could end up being one of the strengths in the future.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 03, 2009, 07:05:25 PM
does anyone know if CNU doees Live Video Streaming of ots home games? Thanks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 03, 2009, 08:31:16 PM
AUPop - don't disagree about AU's youth in the line and size.  Possibly I should clarify.  In my opinion they need to increase strength and speed on the line.  You can be 280+ lbs. but without the strenght that really doesn't get you much.

If you analyze their games this year, more than once AU has not been able to effectively control the line of scrimmage in obvious running downs.  Again last week, several short yardage plays were stopped short for 1st downs to include a QB sneak on 4th and less that a yard. 

Shutting the offense down and going exclusively to the run in Q4 vs. SU (and AU's inability to gain a 1st down running) enabled them to get back into the game when at the end of Q3 it appeared they had a comfortable 2 TD and game in hand.

All that being said, the line and running game has iimproved from where it was earlier this year and would expect it to continue to improve going forward.

In looking at the personnel losses and potential returnees for next year - if they continue to work hard in the weight room, they should continue to be a contender in the conference next year.  Their skill/speed positions should be outstanding next year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: coachmilburn on November 03, 2009, 10:37:07 PM
How good is North Carolina Wesleyan?  Who are their impact players?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 03, 2009, 11:27:45 PM
Quote from: Milby on November 03, 2009, 10:37:07 PM
How good is North Carolina Wesleyan?

very good...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 04, 2009, 12:34:48 AM
WFU34, it baffles me that you read what you want. Never did CNUALUM9 or I ever say that CNU is a national power already, we simply stated that, that's what we expected our team to become 4-5 years after we left.

Simple facts also show that the majority of those losses came from Rowan, Bridgewater, and good Salisbury teams which we are not embarrassed about.  Also, no disrespect to our conference but I would argue that we have gotten much more respect from going 14-21 with our non conference schedule then we have by winning our league a majority of the time.

Also, how are CNU supporters extremely sensitive? Our former players have posted our disappointment that the new teams have not held up their end of the deal and taken our program to the next level.  Our fans pay good money to come see us play at Pomoco and our job was to give them a show and make opposing teams fear coming to Newport News. When I left CNU, Bridgewater dropped us and McDaniel got tired of getting beat as well. Hell, UMHB first visit to Pomoco was an L, not because our team was better that year but because that team fought extra hard to protect our house.   

We simply have expectations of what we want our program to grow into and when our players read this board we want them to know what it TRUELY MEANS TO BE A CAPTAIN. We took the lumps in the beginning in hopes that by now we would be giving them on a consistent basis.  I want players to read this board and get pissed off because when they fell they have arrived we can remind them that they have not done squat for our program.  Want to get the football Alum excited, win a 2nd round playoff game or the South Region. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 04, 2009, 08:49:32 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 03, 2009, 08:31:16 PM
AUPop - don't disagree about AU's youth in the line and size.  Possibly I should clarify.  In my opinion they need to increase strength and speed on the line.  You can be 280+ lbs. but without the strenght that really doesn't get you much.

If you analyze their games this year, more than once AU has not been able to effectively control the line of scrimmage in obvious running downs.  Again last week, several short yardage plays were stopped short for 1st downs to include a QB sneak on 4th and less that a yard. 

Shutting the offense down and going exclusively to the run in Q4 vs. SU (and AU's inability to gain a 1st down running) enabled them to get back into the game when at the end of Q3 it appeared they had a comfortable 2 TD and game in hand.

All that being said, the line and running game has iimproved from where it was earlier this year and would expect it to continue to improve going forward.

In looking at the personnel losses and potential returnees for next year - if they continue to work hard in the weight room, they should continue to be a contender in the conference next year.  Their skill/speed positions should be outstanding next year.

No we are on the same page as far as the O Line, thats pretty much what I meant by "time to develope". I do believe that there is a very good nucleus there for Coach Stanley to work with. They have progressed and a lot of the freshman have been able to get some substantial playing time. Always a good thing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 04, 2009, 08:59:52 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on November 04, 2009, 08:49:32 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 03, 2009, 08:31:16 PM
AUPop - don't disagree about AU's youth in the line and size.  Possibly I should clarify.  In my opinion they need to increase strength and speed on the line.  You can be 280+ lbs. but without the strenght that really doesn't get you much.

If you analyze their games this year, more than once AU has not been able to effectively control the line of scrimmage in obvious running downs.  Again last week, several short yardage plays were stopped short for 1st downs to include a QB sneak on 4th and less that a yard. 

Shutting the offense down and going exclusively to the run in Q4 vs. SU (and AU's inability to gain a 1st down running) enabled them to get back into the game when at the end of Q3 it appeared they had a comfortable 2 TD and game in hand.

All that being said, the line and running game has iimproved from where it was earlier this year and would expect it to continue to improve going forward.

In looking at the personnel losses and potential returnees for next year - if they continue to work hard in the weight room, they should continue to be a contender in the conference next year.  Their skill/speed positions should be outstanding next year.

No we are on the same page as far as the O Line, thats pretty much what I meant by "time to develope". I do believe that there is a very good nucleus there for Coach Stanley to work with. They have progressed and a lot of the freshman have been able to get some substantial playing time. Always a good thing.

Also wasn't one of your best linemen out for several games this year with a bad knee?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 04, 2009, 09:02:46 AM
musupporter...not sure how coaches are doing it now but when I was playing game film was obviously graded and in practice every play was graded by that player's position coach (grading the playing on lining up correctly, running the play/formation correctly and so on).  That's how each player was graded, now as far as figuring out who starts/plays, I would assume it would be some combination of game film and practice performance.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 04, 2009, 09:09:46 AM
I'm with you 54,

CNU sets goals that exceed some of our conference teams. While some teams would be happy with a winning record. We want and expect more. We don't want to just set the goal of winning the conference. We want and expect to accomplish more. Like contend nationally. What dont you get WFU? Furthermore, Kelchner would have us play #1, #2 and #3 if they were all available.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 04, 2009, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 03, 2009, 06:03:58 PM
CNU85 - well thought out, reasoned response.

I think 85 might have been being a bit facetious!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 04, 2009, 09:40:09 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 02, 2009, 10:29:11 PM
There's no doubt in my mind that the teams CNU has scheduled in nonconference play over its short history has helped put that program on the national map.

Sure, the overall nonconference mark may not be stellar, but there are enough really good wins in there that make that kind of schedule worthwhile. Plus, CNU was brand spankin' new in 2001. Any reasonable person should allow at least 2 or 3 or 4 years for that program to build momentum and a recruitment base. Sure enough, it was around that time when the team became more competitive against the Bridgewaters, Salisburys and, at times, the Rowans out there. All of those opponents were consistent playoff-caliber squads at that time.

And let me not forget the win over UMHB in 2006 -- which to this day ranks among the top 3 football games I have ever seen.

With this kind of history, I'm willing to forgive a CNU team (suffering injuries to its starting quarterback, tailback and fullback) for having a somewhat "down" year.  :)

WFU34 - You may not want to hear it from us since we are CNU alum, but if you can't respect Ryan Tipps' opinion then maybe there is no reasoning with you.  He follows D3 football as close as anybody and does a great job with a weekly post on the website.  Plus he shouldn't like CNU very much since he is a Ferrum guy.  Maybe you over-looked his post, so here it is again. 

We expect to never have a "down" year even if there are key injuries.  The second-team guys should be excited to step in and show everybody what they have.  Injuries are a part of the game so there are no excuses.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 04, 2009, 09:54:51 AM
The 2006 squad had some big guys up front on both sides of the ball and they were fast as well as strong.  They graduated, however replacements came in. The replacements were good size as well, but apparently they haven't cut the "Mustard"....They either got scared, lazy, didn't make the grades or they didn't work out and do as the coaches instructed them. Maybe they just rather put on a uniform to impress the ladies and stand on the side lines. (That won't get it with Dunlevy). Bottom line WFU and AUPOP are right, Averett needs to get some beast up front on both sides of the ball and find guys who love to hit and knock the Hell out of people.  (Damn, I wish I could go back 40 years and know what I know today) ????? Sounds like I got my brains rattled a few times while playing center and defensive end. HaHa ...Knees gone too.

OK, I've rambled enough, I will get the pickems totalled and up before end of day.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 04, 2009, 12:26:27 PM
*Great article by Ryan Tipps today on Ogunde from CNU .. ..

I remember this kid from when he transferred to UC ---- I'm a Cincy native and had a buddy on that Bearcat team.  He looks quite a bit bigger than he was back then... what makes him special at CNU?  Does he run over people like a bulldozer, have sprinters speed or both?

I'm interested to see how he "makes his hay" ---
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 04, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 03, 2009, 01:16:12 PM
You seem like you are up to speed on things so maybe you can answer a question for me.  Since the new way of doing things is walk throughs, helmet only practice, no contact, and basically "preparing for the next game", how is it a coach uses this level of competition to determine one player is suddenly better than another?  Is it really possible to gauge a players ability at this low level of intensity or is it just who the coaches favorite is for the week?  Not being a wise guy, just wondering.



Even as far back as 10 years ago, when I played my senior year at Thomas More, we had Mondays like this.  They were much needed.  It WAS a change from the previous coaching regime ... our previous head coach was there from 1990-1998. 

I think we hosted Methodist that year also, in KY.  My memory is foggy without looking it up because a few of my OL had no business being in the starting lineup and as a result --- concussions were the theme for my junior and senior seasons.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 04, 2009, 12:53:50 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 04, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 03, 2009, 01:16:12 PM
You seem like you are up to speed on things so maybe you can answer a question for me.  Since the new way of doing things is walk throughs, helmet only practice, no contact, and basically "preparing for the next game", how is it a coach uses this level of competition to determine one player is suddenly better than another?  Is it really possible to gauge a players ability at this low level of intensity or is it just who the coaches favorite is for the week?  Not being a wise guy, just wondering.



Even as far back as 10 years ago, when I played my senior year at Thomas More, we had Mondays like this.  They were much needed.  It WAS a change from the previous coaching regime ... our previous head coach was there from 1990-1998. 

I think we hosted Methodist that year also, in KY.  My memory is foggy without looking it up because a few of my OL had no business being in the starting lineup and as a result --- concussions were the theme for my junior and senior seasons.

Thanks for all the feed back.  I guess the point I was trying to make is that with all the glaring problems MU is trying to overcome, off days just seem like time that could be spent trying to fix things.  I know I heard "their killing us with all this practice"  more times than I can count.  In the beginning of the season, MU was awful on both sides of the ball.  Now the offense is getting things done and the defense can't stop the run.  The skill set required for a successful program is something that has to worked on week in and week out.  MU doesn't have the gas in the tank to finish the race.  There are ways to fix this.  It just has to be done.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 04, 2009, 01:33:00 PM
Saints Fan....you did host MU that year.  I'll always remember that game because it was my first start.  I think you beat us by about a TD.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 04, 2009, 01:42:52 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on November 04, 2009, 01:33:00 PM
Saints Fan....you did host MU that year.  I'll always remember that game because it was my first start.  I think you beat us by about a TD.

I just looked it up... you're right.  Nov 6, 1999  24-13.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 04, 2009, 02:07:51 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 04, 2009, 12:26:27 PM
*Great article by Ryan Tipps today on Ogunde from CNU .. ..

Thanks SaintsFan!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 04, 2009, 04:17:28 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 04, 2009, 12:53:50 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 04, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 03, 2009, 01:16:12 PM
You seem like you are up to speed on things so maybe you can answer a question for me.  Since the new way of doing things is walk throughs, helmet only practice, no contact, and basically "preparing for the next game", how is it a coach uses this level of competition to determine one player is suddenly better than another?  Is it really possible to gauge a players ability at this low level of intensity or is it just who the coaches favorite is for the week?  Not being a wise guy, just wondering.



Even as far back as 10 years ago, when I played my senior year at Thomas More, we had Mondays like this.  They were much needed.  It WAS a change from the previous coaching regime ... our previous head coach was there from 1990-1998. 

I think we hosted Methodist that year also, in KY.  My memory is foggy without looking it up because a few of my OL had no business being in the starting lineup and as a result --- concussions were the theme for my junior and senior seasons.

Thanks for all the feed back.  I guess the point I was trying to make is that with all the glaring problems MU is trying to overcome, off days just seem like time that could be spent trying to fix things.  I know I heard "their killing us with all this practice"  more times than I can count.  In the beginning of the season, MU was awful on both sides of the ball.  Now the offense is getting things done and the defense can't stop the run.  The skill set required for a successful program is something that has to worked on week in and week out.  MU doesn't have the gas in the tank to finish the race.  There are ways to fix this.  It just has to be done.


musupporter,

What happened to Jerry McCombs who transferred from Averett to Methodist and coached there a couple of years. I thought I saw him post on here one time this year but don't see his name on the coaches list any more. Do you know where he went or is he still at Methodist.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 04, 2009, 05:47:44 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on November 04, 2009, 09:29:28 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 03, 2009, 06:03:58 PM
CNU85 - well thought out, reasoned response.

I think 85 might have been being a bit facetious!

ya think?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 04, 2009, 06:21:45 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 04, 2009, 04:17:28 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 04, 2009, 12:53:50 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 04, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 03, 2009, 01:16:12 PM
You seem like you are up to speed on things so maybe you can answer a question for me.  Since the new way of doing things is walk throughs, helmet only practice, no contact, and basically "preparing for the next game", how is it a coach uses this level of competition to determine one player is suddenly better than another?  Is it really possible to gauge a players ability at this low level of intensity or is it just who the coaches favorite is for the week?  Not being a wise guy, just wondering.



Even as far back as 10 years ago, when I played my senior year at Thomas More, we had Mondays like this.  They were much needed.  It WAS a change from the previous coaching regime ... our previous head coach was there from 1990-1998. 

I think we hosted Methodist that year also, in KY.  My memory is foggy without looking it up because a few of my OL had no business being in the starting lineup and as a result --- concussions were the theme for my junior and senior seasons.

Thanks for all the feed back.  I guess the point I was trying to make is that with all the glaring problems MU is trying to overcome, off days just seem like time that could be spent trying to fix things.  I know I heard "their killing us with all this practice"  more times than I can count.  In the beginning of the season, MU was awful on both sides of the ball.  Now the offense is getting things done and the defense can't stop the run.  The skill set required for a successful program is something that has to worked on week in and week out.  MU doesn't have the gas in the tank to finish the race.  There are ways to fix this.  It just has to be done.


musupporter,

What happened to Jerry McCombs who transferred from Averett to Methodist and coached there a couple of years. I thought I saw him post on here one time this year but don't see his name on the coaches list any more. Do you know where he went or is he still at Methodist.


I am not sure where he went.  He is not at Methodist and I have not seen him on here either since he gave me what for when I questioned coaching philosophies.  I think he logged on as usaguruor something like that
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 04, 2009, 08:35:24 PM
CNU alums - we can continue going around on the "discussion" which started out by my opinion/observation was that while CNU has established an outstanding record in conference since 2000 - it hasn't translated into being considered a contender for a national title as of yet.

No one is agruing with the goals and aspirations of the program to accomplish that.  It's a worthly goal.  I believe the writer of the article today on the website made a similar observation, that at this point in time, CNU's nonconference record has been less than stellar.

As former players of the program, you've obviously have an emotional investment into the program (as well you should) and take a great deal of pride in the part you played in building your program.  I have the same attachment to the college programs I played and coached at.  In this case, I just look at the numbers.

Let's just say we see things thru different paradigms and leave it at that. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2009, 06:06:11 AM
Here are the Pick Em games for this week




Shenandoah @ NC Wesleyan

Maryville @ Christopher Newport

Averett @ Ferrum

Methodist @ Greensboro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2009, 06:11:43 AM
Shenandoah @ NC Wesleyan

Maryville @ Christopher Newport

Averett @ Ferrum

Methodist @ Greensboro

Tough week for the visiting teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 05, 2009, 06:34:38 AM
Shenandoah @ NC Wesleyan

Maryville @ Christopher Newport
Averett @ Ferrum

Methodist @ Greensboro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 05, 2009, 07:56:37 AM
NCW

CNU

AU ( need to put pedal to metal on offense and keep it there)

Greensboro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 05, 2009, 08:14:37 AM

Shenandoah @ NC Wesleyan

Maryville @ Christopher Newport

Averett @ Ferrum

Methodist @ Greensboro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 05, 2009, 08:39:15 AM
WFU34,

Here are some words which you may have forgotten that you typed. When referring to CNU:

"Out of conference is now 14 - 21 or .400 winning percentage and there aren't any Mt. Unions on that schedule."

I take issue with this line. Mary Hardin Baylor is one of the BEST year in and year out. At least a 3rd of the other teams were ranked in the top 10. 50% in the top 25 of 225+ teams. That means we were playing a team in the top 10% half the time. Further more there is only one Mt Union. So the fact that you suggest a team could play multiple Mt Union caliber teams shows that you are unfamiliar with D3 football and its ruling powers. I challenge you to find one person on this board who is willing to call CNU's out of conference schedule weak.

Your quote has the numbers right but but you gotta check the names on the schedule before you say who was on it. We played some of the best. We beat some of the best. I'll wrap it up because I know you will only read what you want anyway.


Your response?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 05, 2009, 09:40:03 AM
Crazylegs - no one is saying CNU's out of conference record has been weak.  However, to achieve CNU's aspirations and expectations (at least those who post here) of being a contender for a national title year in and year out, some of those nonconference games need to be won.

While CNU has played an ambitious nonconference schedule and no doubt that playing those games has helped you in conference play.  Playing Mary Hardin Baylor and beating them once is a tremendous accomplishment, and CNU should take pride in that.  However, winning a game like that does not necessarily put a program on the national map if the recent overall body of work doesn't have similar results. 

An analogy to the MHBC victory that might resonate with you is that Mississippi beat Florida last year but it is extremely doubtful that anyone is equating that program on the same level of Florida in competing for a national championship year in and year out.  Once Mississippi was a considered a national power and it might be again over time but not right now.   As time goes on, that victory will carry less significance if they don't leverage that win with future victories against top competition (and this year they haven't).

Florida on the other hand has maintained it over the last several years and is always in the discussion with the South Cal's, Alabama's, Texas', and Oklahoma's of the world.   Equating that to the DIII world, that's like being mentioned in the same breathe as Mt. Union, UW-Whitewater, Wesley, Rowan, etc.

The numbers say that you've got a .400 winning percentage in those nonconference games and a lower one in playoff games (but at least CNU's had the opportunity to play in them, which is acknowledged that many of other teams in the conference haven't and would welcome the chance to have the same record). 

I'm not saying that any of the other USAC teams would have done any better with such a nonconference schedule, Averett learned that with the several games it played against Mt. Union and Wesley for example.  Possibly CNU's  success in nonconference games will change in the near future thus bringing it into the debate regarding national championship contenders (and that again, is not to say you shouldn't have those goals within the program).

You could make a comparision to Ohio State.  They typically dominate the Big 10 year in and year out, just as CNU has with the USAC.  But their performance against non-conference foes, i.e., PAC-10 or SEC has not been as successful in recent years.  That is why, despite playing the LSU's USC's, Texas's, etc., their performance, i.e., wins, against those teams has not been that good.  Until they demonstate that they can beat those types of teams consistantly, they are now not viewed as a true contender (even though they recently played in a couple of on BSC title games).

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2009, 09:55:39 AM
Results from Week 9 PickEms as follows:

AUPOP                                4-0
Moshergc9                          1-0 (only picked the Greensboro game)
Narch                                 2-1 (didn't pick the Greensboro game)
ProudFightingScot                2-2
Allen-C                               2-2
Kickerdad                            2-2
WFU34                               2-2
NaturalSelection                  2-2
Crazyleggs33                       Did Not Pick
Rockett                              Did Not Pick
GC Gullett                           Did Not Pick

Bishop64                             1-3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 05, 2009, 10:00:50 AM
Picks:

NCWU
CNU
AU
Greensboro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2009, 10:01:02 AM
Totals for the year thru Week 9

Allen-C                                     29-19
ProudFightingScot                      28-20
Kickerdad                                  25-23
AUPOP                                      24-16
Bishop64                                   22-19
Narch                                       16-14
Crazyleggs33                               9-9
WFU34                                       8-8
Moshergc9                                  5-3
Rockett                                      4-4
NaturalSelection                           2-2
GC Gullett                                   6-7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2009, 10:06:37 AM
Shenandoah @ NC Wesleyan

Maryville @ Christopher Newport

Averett @ Ferrum

Methodist @ Greensboro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 05, 2009, 10:24:11 AM
Shenandoah @ NC Wesleyan

Maryville @ Christopher Newport

Averett @ Ferrum

Methodist @ Greensboro

This week is a must win for averett to keep their hopes alive for a chance at conference. i also think methodist may win if their offense plays like they did against greensboro but with their defense i dont think it will matter. Greensboro is too much for a young and poorly coached methodist defense. you cant rely on your offense to outscore every opponent, defense has to do something.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: RMCFan on November 05, 2009, 10:34:11 AM
Very nice peice on Tunde from CNU on the d3football.com website.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 05, 2009, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 05, 2009, 10:24:11 AM
Shenandoah @ NC Wesleyan

Maryville @ Christopher Newport

Averett @ Ferrum

Methodist @ Greensboro

This week is a must win for averett to keep their hopes alive for a chance at conference. i also think methodist may win if their offense plays like they did against greensboro but with their defense i dont think it will matter. Greensboro is too much for a young and poorly coached methodist defense. you cant rely on your offense to outscore every opponent, defense has to do something.

Don't be surprised if the MU defense comes to play Saturday
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 05, 2009, 11:10:45 AM
WFU34- Nobody has said CNU IS a national contender year in and year out.  You made that assumption on your own from a previous post and it is incorrect.  We schedule these games so we see how we match-up and to see what it takes to be a successful team year in and year out.  It also makes the team stronger for the rest of the season and better prepared for a playoff push.  I hope that CNU continues to make the opening schedule as difficult as possible and make the players step their game up.  I believe Wesley and Wilkes were 2-year agreements, so I think CNU will need 2 new teams to play next year unless the contracts with either of these schools is renewed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 05, 2009, 11:51:36 AM
CNUALUM9 - if CNU does become a national contender year in and year out it only raises the level of the conference which is good for everyone.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 05, 2009, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 05, 2009, 08:39:15 AM
WFU34,

I challenge you to find one person on this board who is willing to call CNU's out of conference schedule weak.




Your response?

CNU's out of conference schedule is weak........................I'm just kiddin.

Games against tough out of conference opponents can be hard to line up for several reasons.  Some schools with a rep of being good don't want to take a chance against a school  like CNU for fear of going home with their tails between their legs.

I understood what the CNU guys were trying to say.  They expect their alum to challenge for the conference every year and make a showing in the playoffs.  I have been keeping up with this banter from the start and no one said CNU is a national contender year after year.  I will  say they play a tougher out of conference schedule than anyone else in our league and I am positive it will get tougher if the teams can be lined up.

Good luck to all on Saturday.  Be safe.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 05, 2009, 12:04:08 PM
Just curios, is a two year schedule for non conference games typical?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 05, 2009, 12:12:52 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on November 05, 2009, 12:04:08 PM
Just curios, is a two year schedule for non conference games typical?

Normally, but then they will sometimes stretch them out. i.e. Averett/Guilford, Averett/W&L,,not sure what will happen next year with Bridgewater. This was the 2nd year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 05, 2009, 12:29:25 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 05, 2009, 12:12:52 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on November 05, 2009, 12:04:08 PM
Just curios, is a two year schedule for non conference games typical?

Normally, but then they will sometimes stretch them out. i.e. Averett/Guilford, Averett/W&L,,not sure what will happen next year with Bridgewater. This was the 2nd year.

Actually W&L was the main reason I asked. Was told they wouldn't be playing AU next year but seemed that seemed odd because it had been 3 years ( not 4). But I dont know if the person who told me that actually knew what they were talking about anyway.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 05, 2009, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 05, 2009, 11:51:36 AM
CNUALUM9 - if CNU does become a national contender year in and year out it only raises the level of the conference which is good for everyone.

You are absolutely correct.  I hope that all teams from the USA South continue to grow and get stronger and develop into a conference that could get 2 bids a year.

AUPOP - I'm pretty sure most out-of-conference schedules are set-up as 2-year contracts.  This way, each team has the chance to play at home. Ryan Tipps or Pat Coleman can probably provide better insight on it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 05, 2009, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 05, 2009, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 05, 2009, 10:24:11 AM
Shenandoah @ NC Wesleyan

Maryville @ Christopher Newport

Averett @ Ferrum

Methodist @ Greensboro

This week is a must win for averett to keep their hopes alive for a chance at conference. i also think methodist may win if their offense plays like they did against greensboro but with their defense i dont think it will matter. Greensboro is too much for a young and poorly coached methodist defense. you cant rely on your offense to outscore every opponent, defense has to do something.

Don't be surprised if the MU defense comes to play Saturday

what makes you think that the MU defense will play so well on saturday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 05, 2009, 01:20:02 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 05, 2009, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 05, 2009, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 05, 2009, 10:24:11 AM
Shenandoah @ NC Wesleyan

Maryville @ Christopher Newport

Averett @ Ferrum

Methodist @ Greensboro

This week is a must win for averett to keep their hopes alive for a chance at conference. i also think methodist may win if their offense plays like they did against greensboro but with their defense i dont think it will matter. Greensboro is too much for a young and poorly coached methodist defense. you cant rely on your offense to outscore every opponent, defense has to do something.

Don't be surprised if the MU defense comes to play Saturday

what makes you think that the MU defense will play so well on saturday?

I don't know every player on the defense but I know several of them and have been able to spend some time with them, one of them being my son.  They realize they are the weak link right now.  Nobody likes being called out and I fully expect the intensity level to pick up.  And if the Coach has any sense, he will bench any player that doesn't pick up the intensity and that includes  my son.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 05, 2009, 01:21:50 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 05, 2009, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 05, 2009, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 05, 2009, 10:24:11 AM
Shenandoah @ NC Wesleyan

Maryville @ Christopher Newport

Averett @ Ferrum

Methodist @ Greensboro

By the way, exactly what is your connection to MU.  You have an awful lot to say about them.  Just curious

This week is a must win for averett to keep their hopes alive for a chance at conference. i also think methodist may win if their offense plays like they did against greensboro but with their defense i dont think it will matter. Greensboro is too much for a young and poorly coached methodist defense. you cant rely on your offense to outscore every opponent, defense has to do something.

Don't be surprised if the MU defense comes to play Saturday

what makes you think that the MU defense will play so well on saturday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 05, 2009, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 05, 2009, 01:06:36 PM
Quote from: musupporter on November 05, 2009, 10:34:27 AM

Don't be surprised if the MU defense comes to play Saturday

what makes you think that the MU defense will play so well on saturday?
i know you didn't ask me, but if you had i would tell you this...

mu has really struggled stopping the run, especially lately...greensboro can't run the ball (64 ypg, 2.3 ypc)

if gc can't get any running game going, the monarch de's (especially doyne and mewborn) are too athletic for the gc offensive line...i think they'll force the gc qb to make some mistakes...i also think the mu db's have played better, of late (at least they aren't giving up as many big plays)...of course, i could be wrong :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 05, 2009, 01:52:38 PM
i dont think its the fact that the players lack intensity. there was plenty of that during the NCW game. its more on the players as individuals in terms of the skill level and the coaches abilities. the majority of the defense are vets and they play like vets but when things go wrong they seem to hang their heads and everything declines from there. that was apparent in the NCW game. things were going right and the defense looked good in the first quarter. but once they started missing tackles and NCW took the reverse for a touchdown players started to question themselves and you could see it on the field. for the defense to be successful in the next two games they need to completely forget about everything that has happen this season and just worry about stopping the opponent regardless of what the MU offense is doing. they have plenty of talent to go out there and shut anyone down but for some reason they arent. whether it be missed assignments, missed tackles, or just poor scheme.  

by the way...where can i find directions to the field that greensboro plays at and what is it called?

the MU dline is very good this year. no doubt about that. i also agree with you that the dbs are playing better but other then campbell they have played well all year long. like i said the defense has a ton of talent but for some reason they dont play like it all the time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 05, 2009, 01:54:59 PM
when i said i wouldnt be surprised if greensboro beat methodist is because their offensive coordinator is a very good coach and knows how to run a offense very well. with a team that is bad against stopping the run i am sure their coach can find a way to utilize their offensive weapons and run the ball. all it takes is a few big runs to make the defense have to defend the run before pass. i would not be surprised if greensboro has put in a few draws trap plays out of their shotgun offense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 05, 2009, 02:07:23 PM
Natural Selection - Greensboro plays its games on the campus of Grimsley High School.  Mapquest that address and the stadium is right next to the school.

It's a city stadium, not just HS - holds about 10,000 people so its a fairly nice place.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 05, 2009, 02:16:03 PM
Naturalselection, I think intensity is exactly what they lack.  A defensive player is supposed be a selfish player and they are truly one of the only groups that being selfish actually helps the team.  What I mean is that they don't depend on an o-line to block so they can run, or block so they can pass, run a route correctly, get a check down.  All a defensive player needs to do is stop the ball.  So if a player feels like running up his stats on defense he hasn't done anything but help the team.

So back to intensity............giving out an old fashion ass kicking.  MU is not doing it.  Football is physical and the more physical the better.  Tackling is part of it, but tackling hard, making someone think before coming through your hole, is what I'm talking about.  Ferrum style is what I mean.  Ferrum tried to knock someones head off on every play and there is nothing wrong with that unless you are the one taking the pounding.  And trust me, you get hit hard a couple times, you start thinking.

Technique and gap control are fine, I guess.  But what MU needs is to defensively kick the ever loving s*&^ out of someone.

You are correct.  They have the talent and they look good once in awhile.  4 quarters.  Thats what it takes.  Kicking ass and taking names for 4 quarters.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 05, 2009, 02:25:18 PM
Life is good when you have a reason to cheer for a team this time of year!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 05, 2009, 02:32:19 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 05, 2009, 02:25:18 PM
Life is good when you have a reason to cheer for a team this time of year!



I hope everyone cheers for their respective teams through the good and the bad.  I'm just thankful for this site where we have a chance to vent and discuss issues.

Good luck Saturday.  Be Safe.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 05, 2009, 03:59:25 PM
life is good when you have a reason to cheer.  i know how it feels to cheer to just get a win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 05, 2009, 05:16:40 PM
Papi
Sorry. I missed your post. I am skulking about in the NE. I got a new security gig up here. As much as I use to bust on BC and HSC there might be an Eagle looking to whack me.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 05, 2009, 06:09:54 PM
ABN...I'm sure you can handle yourself if one them eagles comes to put a hit on ya  ;)  If you make any trips down to Lejeune I still owe you that beer!


Natural Selection....seems like you blame a lot of MU's defensive woes on the coaching staff, granted I have not witnessed a game in person for quite sometime but from what I can gather from reading these post and talking to people who go to the games it seems like the defense is lacking intensity or what I like to call "nastiness".  It's like MUS said, Ferrum doesn't try to tackle you, they try to knock you out of your cleats and it seems like MU is missing that.  I'm not sure you can blame lack of intensity on a coach.
Some will argue that the coach may need to fire up his unit, but if a player needs someone else to fire him up to play on the collegiate level then he should just turn in his cleats and take up table tennis.

Again, I haven't seen a game in person this year so this opinions are based solely on what I've read on here and from what I've heard from other people.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 05, 2009, 06:36:03 PM
Two more games left. Whew!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 05, 2009, 06:38:32 PM
Adpapi, thats a much better way to put it, a "nastiness'.  Remember, it is only a penalty if you get caught ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 05, 2009, 06:41:02 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on November 05, 2009, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 05, 2009, 11:51:36 AM
CNUALUM9 - if CNU does become a national contender year in and year out it only raises the level of the conference which is good for everyone.

You are absolutely correct.  I hope that all teams from the USA South continue to grow and get stronger and develop into a conference that could get 2 bids a year.

AUPOP - I'm pretty sure most out-of-conference schedules are set-up as 2-year contracts.  This way, each team has the chance to play at home. Ryan Tipps or Pat Coleman can probably provide better insight on it.

It's usually two or four years. If a contract goes an odd number of years, it might be because a change in the conference schedule left a team with an odd schedule hole to fill, or since W&L-Averett has been played in Salem Stadium perhaps that's part of it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 05, 2009, 06:52:45 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 05, 2009, 02:07:23 PM
Natural Selection - Greensboro plays its games on the campus of Grimsley High School.  Mapquest that address and the stadium is right next to the school.

It's a city stadium, not just HS - holds about 10,000 people so its a fairly nice place.

thank you. i didnt know it was a city stadium. i thought it was a hs.

Quote from: AdmiralPapi on November 05, 2009, 06:09:54 PM
ABN...I'm sure you can handle yourself if one them eagles comes to put a hit on ya  ;)  If you make any trips down to Lejeune I still owe you that beer!


Natural Selection....seems like you blame a lot of MU's defensive woes on the coaching staff, granted I have not witnessed a game in person for quite sometime but from what I can gather from reading these post and talking to people who go to the games it seems like the defense is lacking intensity or what I like to call "nastiness".  It's like MUS said, Ferrum doesn't try to tackle you, they try to knock you out of your cleats and it seems like MU is missing that.  I'm not sure you can blame lack of intensity on a coach.
Some will argue that the coach may need to fire up his unit, but if a player needs someone else to fire him up to play on the collegiate level then he should just turn in his cleats and take up table tennis.

Again, I haven't seen a game in person this year so this opinions are based solely on what I've read on here and from what I've heard from other people.

If the players arent trusting the coaches and their coaching style where do they get the intensity from. i understand that its not the coaches job to light a spark in their @ss but if a player does not trust the system and believes it works he wont play with intensity. i do agree with mus that ferrum trys to take your head off and thats the way a defense should play. mu defense doesnt have that. when you watch ray lewis play he doesnt just try to tackle someone he trys to punish them and make them not want to get hit again. until a defense does that the offense is going to keep thinking they can move the ball. a defense has to hit the opponent in the mouth, not get hit. and i believe methodist does not have that mentality on defense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 06, 2009, 07:55:17 AM
Shenandoah @ NC Wesleyan

Maryville @ Christopher Newport

Averett @ Ferrum

Methodist @ Greensboro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 06, 2009, 08:35:04 AM
WFU34,

Quote from: WFU34 on November 05, 2009, 09:40:03 AM
Crazylegs - no one is saying CNU's out of conference record has been weak.


Quote from: WFU34 on November 02, 2009, 08:46:14 PM
Out of conference is now 14 - 21 or .400 winning percentage and there aren't any Mt. Unions on that schedule.
Enjoy what you are.

No sense in arguing with you anymore.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 06, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
Crazylegs - obviously the first comment was a typo.  In the original 'quote" it was meant to say "no one is saying CNU's out of conference schedule is weak".

The other comment you highlighted was accurate.  I would have thought that would have been understood because I'm  sure no one would consider a .400 winning percentage "strong".

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 06, 2009, 12:27:37 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 06, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
Crazylegs - obviously the first comment was a typo.  In the original 'quote" it was meant to say "no one is saying CNU's out of conference schedule is weak".
why is that obvious?...record and schedule are two very different things, not often confused with one another - say what you mean, mean what you say

Quote from: WFU34 on November 02, 2009, 08:46:14 PM
Out of conference is now 14 - 21 or .400 winning percentage and there aren't any Mt. Unions on that schedule. Enjoy what you are.
Quote from: WFU34 on November 06, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
The other comment you highlighted was accurate.
well...not entirely...while mt. union (specifically) isn't among the teams that cnu has played, i think the cnu fans have illustrated the high-quality nature of cnu's ooc schedule – the cnu ooc schedule is littered with numerous top 25 teams (and a few top 10 teams)...we (and i think i can speak for everyone on this board) assumed when you said "mt. unions", this was the type of competition you were referring to  - this seems like a logical assumption since you used the plural form - "mt. unions" - when everyone knows there is only one mt. union college playing division III football – if you meant to say cnu has not played mt. union, you should not have pluralized and said so directly

words are powerful when used properly

i will now refrain from defending cnu and commence rooting for a monarch win vs. the pride :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 06, 2009, 02:06:15 PM
"well...not entirely...while mt. union (specifically) isn't among the teams that cnu has played, i think the cnu fans have illustrated the high-quality nature of cnu's ooc schedule – the cnu ooc schedule is littered with numerous top 25 teams (and a few top 10 teams)...we (and i think i can speak for everyone on this board) assumed when you said "mt. unions", this was the type of competition you were referring to  - this seems like a logical assumption since you used the plural form - "mt. unions" - when everyone knows there is only one mt. union college playing division III football – if you meant to say cnu has not played mt. union, you should not have pluralized and said so directly

words are powerful when used properly

i will now refrain from defending cnu and commence rooting for a monarch win vs. the pride"


Master Woo has spoken... ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 06, 2009, 03:17:40 PM
Quote from: narch on November 06, 2009, 12:27:37 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 06, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
Crazylegs - obviously the first comment was a typo.  In the original 'quote" it was meant to say "no one is saying CNU's out of conference schedule is weak".
why is that obvious?...record and schedule are two very different things, not often confused with one another - say what you mean, mean what you say

Quote from: WFU34 on November 02, 2009, 08:46:14 PM
Out of conference is now 14 - 21 or .400 winning percentage and there aren't any Mt. Unions on that schedule. Enjoy what you are.
Quote from: WFU34 on November 06, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
The other comment you highlighted was accurate.
well...not entirely...while mt. union (specifically) isn't among the teams that cnu has played, i think the cnu fans have illustrated the high-quality nature of cnu's ooc schedule – the cnu ooc schedule is littered with numerous top 25 teams (and a few top 10 teams)...we (and i think i can speak for everyone on this board) assumed when you said "mt. unions", this was the type of competition you were referring to  - this seems like a logical assumption since you used the plural form - "mt. unions" - when everyone knows there is only one mt. union college playing division III football – if you meant to say cnu has not played mt. union, you should not have pluralized and said so directly

words are powerful when used properly

i will now refrain from defending cnu and commence rooting for a monarch win vs. the pride :)


I am going to start selling tickets and see how much money we can raise. Right now I feel like everyone needs to take a good double shot (on the rocks) of Wild Turkey and relax.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 06, 2009, 03:26:31 PM
I am glad everyone else seems to understand where Crazy, 9, and myself are coming from in regards to this argument. As far as the OSU comparison those are fighting words in my eyes. LOL "not really"did make me laugh though.

Go Buckeyes.... Ahhhh Hmmmm I mean Captains. LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 06, 2009, 03:32:22 PM
Hell....................let's start another war


GO PENN STATE
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 06, 2009, 04:50:52 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 06, 2009, 03:32:22 PM
Hell....................let's start another war


GO PENN STATE

Am I the only one that feels inferior after reading Narch's posts? ;D ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 06, 2009, 06:51:06 PM
Narch and Hasanova are the Yin and the Yang of the d3football boards, mess with either and your life might disappear before your very eyes  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2009, 09:17:09 PM
Dang...Narch was defending CNU......wow!! I know that was tough. Narch. You ok?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 07, 2009, 12:20:00 AM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on November 06, 2009, 06:51:06 PM
Narch and Hasanova are the Yin and the Yang of the d3football boards, mess with either and your life might disappear before your very eyes  ;D
"Beneath the rule of men entirely great, the pen is mighter than the sword."  Richelieu, [1839] Act II, scene ii  Baron Edward Bulwer-Lytton

Sometimes I think narch has cloned himself so he's simultaneously both the Yin and the Yang, but I find it flattering we're both mentioned here.  :)  The thing that separates narch, I think, from more pedestrian posters is his ability to analyze, reason and, then, present a lucid argument.  It's not difficult, but most of us are too lazy to do our homework (both literally and figuratively).   The differences between a sophomoric bit of twisted (and ultimately, doomed) logic and a compelling (and ultimately, convincing) argument can be as subtle as taking the time to look up definitions, putting punctuation marks where they belong, uncovering facts (what a concept!) and picking just the perfect word.  It's not rocket science, but it is an art ... and narch is the king of the "jumble"!

It's true that this forum is about sports and not grammar, but it is about college sports and I often wish more of us would write as though we'd picked up something along the way.   :)   Olympic gold medal winners rarely make mistakes and have no wasted efforts.  A great wordsmith does the same - every word matters - and sometimes less is more!  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 07, 2009, 12:30:50 AM
On a more humorous note, one of my favorite examples of the importance of punctuation:

The panda eats shoots and leaves.

or

The panda eats, shoots and leaves.

All's well in the bamboo patch in the former and the police have issued an APB in the latter.  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 07, 2009, 07:01:18 AM
One of the many things I enjoy about this board is how well written most are.  To the casual observer, one might think James J. Kilpatrick was authoring them.  It's refreshing to see how many have actually kept the books from their first year college English Comp course.

Is this football conversation or a literature/grammar class? 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 07, 2009, 07:10:14 AM
CNUSfinest54 - I scrolled back and saw where my Ohio State analogy also struck a nerve with you.  That was not the intention but it does illustrate how effective writing can stir the passions of the reader.  (I am saying that "tongue in cheek" so we don't need 50 posts on that).    Good luck today.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
I'm heading to the game soon. I hope CNU brings there A game or their gonna get they're butts whipped!

That was for Hasa and Narch!

:D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 01:23:50 PM
7-0 Maryville

1 min left in 1st Q
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 01:40:41 PM
7-7

8:06 in the 2nd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 01:54:04 PM
14-7 CNU

4 minutes or so in the 2nd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 02:00:28 PM
14-7 at halftime CNU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 07, 2009, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 11:02:51 AM
I'm heading to the game soon. I hope CNU brings there A game or their gonna get they're butts whipped!

That was for Hasa and Narch!

:D
Thanks for the laugh, CNU85.  Well done!  Where are all the good homonyms when you need them?  Obviously, "there" in "they're" sentences, so "their"!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 02:49:45 PM
14-7 CNU Start of 4th Q
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 02:50:24 PM
Also starting RB Hightower is out this game injured
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 03:04:05 PM
14-14 with 10 min or so left in the 4th
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 03:11:00 PM
21-14 Maryville 8 Min left in the 4th
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 03:27:40 PM
Maryville recovers a fumble on their 15 with 2:20 left in the game!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 03:33:44 PM
Maryville wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Go Scots!!!!!!!!! 21-14!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:04:01 PM
Well - I just got back from the most horrid football game I've ver watched in my life - college, pro, high school, junior high, pop warner....EVER!

Maryville looks like a bad team. CNU stunk up the entire city, the refs were at a soccer game or baseball, but they weren't calling a football game. It was really bad. Someone had to win and someone had to lose  - but I wish I wasn't there to watch the game. That was not football. That was pathetic and both teams should be ashamed to put on pads and wear their teams' colors.

Maryville gets the W, which is the goal when the game starts....so congrats on achieving a goal......but like I said, they are a bad team - at least today they were. CNU started playing ok with #19 in at QB, but when he got dinged up (like he has every game he's played) and #7 came back in, CNU had nothing.

It's pretty bad when you get embarassed by a bad team at home....but that's how I saw it!


CNU needs to win next week or they will be the first CNU team to finish as low as .500. If they play like they did today, Methodist will beat them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 07, 2009, 04:08:13 PM
AU WINS 34-28 3 ots
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:11:09 PM
23 first downs by both teams......15 punts.......

combined....more punt yards than offensive yards - and there were 119 total offense plays!!!

15 punts and 13 penalties = 28 plays with a punt or a flag vs 23 first downs.......

did I mention that was a pathetic display of football?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:11:45 PM
Congrats AUPOP - that's a HUGE win!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:13:11 PM
one last rant to get this out of my system....

Phoebus High School would have torn up both teams today...no question!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 04:13:59 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:04:01 PM
Well - I just got back from the most horrid football game I've ver watched in my life - college, pro, high school, junior high, pop warner....EVER!

Maryville looks like a bad team. CNU stunk up the entire city, the refs were at a soccer game or baseball, but they weren't calling a football game. It was really bad. Someone had to win and someone had to lose  - but I wish I wasn't there to watch the game. That was not football. That was pathetic and both teams should be ashamed to put on pads and wear their teams' colors.

Maryville gets the W, which is the goal when the game starts....so congrats on achieving a goal......but like I said, they are a bad team - at least today they were. CNU started playing ok with #19 in at QB, but when he got dinged up (like he has every game he's played) and #7 came back in, CNU had nothing.

It's pretty bad when you get embarassed by a bad team at home....but that's how I saw it!


CNU needs to win next week or they will be the first CNU team to finish as low as .500. If they play like they did today, Methodist will beat them.

wow 85 you are bitter.  well i guess your momma never told ya if ya ain't got nothing nice to say then shut it huh.  Well that's your opinion but all i know is we got the w you didn't so who's team is bad huh?  I usually don't get it who's is bigger contests but you know if you wanna trash the team who just beat you then I gotta say something.  Go grow up and quit crying.  be a gracious loser as I (heck the entire board) have been when they lost.  maybe you just can't handle the fact some that some people in the conference have caught up to you.  The fact you have lost 2 times now and had more than a few close games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:16:51 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 04:13:59 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:04:01 PM
Well - I just got back from the most horrid football game I've ver watched in my life - college, pro, high school, junior high, pop warner....EVER!

Maryville looks like a bad team. CNU stunk up the entire city, the refs were at a soccer game or baseball, but they weren't calling a football game. It was really bad. Someone had to win and someone had to lose  - but I wish I wasn't there to watch the game. That was not football. That was pathetic and both teams should be ashamed to put on pads and wear their teams' colors.

Maryville gets the W, which is the goal when the game starts....so congrats on achieving a goal......but like I said, they are a bad team - at least today they were. CNU started playing ok with #19 in at QB, but when he got dinged up (like he has every game he's played) and #7 came back in, CNU had nothing.

It's pretty bad when you get embarassed by a bad team at home....but that's how I saw it!


CNU needs to win next week or they will be the first CNU team to finish as low as .500. If they play like they did today, Methodist will beat them.

wow 85 you are bitter.  well i guess your momma never told ya if ya ain't got nothing nice to say then shut it huh.  Well that's your opinion but all i know is we got the w you didn't so who's team is bad huh?  I usually don't get it who's is bigger contests but you know if you wanna trash the team who just beat you then I gotta say something.  Go grow up and quit crying.  be a gracious loser as I (heck the entire board) have been when they lost.  maybe you just can't handle the fact some that some people in the conference have caught up to you.  The fact you have lost 2 times now and had more than a few close games.

I do believe I said congrats to MC for the win. That's what they came to do and got it done.....but I gotta say - the game was bad. I was there. Wasn't crying...just reporting what I saw.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:17:22 PM
I would say the same thing had CNU won.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:18:27 PM
and i even think i said cnu was a bad team....or inferred it by saying they stunk up the city.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:23:14 PM
Maybe I just wasn't in the mood to watch a football game today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:26:57 PM
and we've lost 2 games before
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 07, 2009, 04:39:40 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:11:45 PM
Congrats AUPOP - that's a HUGE win!!

Thanks but I am to dam old for this stuff......think I prefer the runaway games, lot easier on my system.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:43:31 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on November 07, 2009, 04:39:40 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 07, 2009, 04:11:45 PM
Congrats AUPOP - that's a HUGE win!!

Thanks but I am to dam old for this stuff......think I prefer the runaway games, lot easier on my system.

HAHA.....really.  can relate!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 07, 2009, 07:08:22 PM
OMG- I for the second time this year was not able to follow the game...I heard part of the 2nd qtr., but had to leave at halftime..FC up 7-0...Cant believe it, but AU is a good team, and everyone knew it going in. Just looking at the stats, looks like Dobson had a good day. 185 yards rushing...Congrats AUPOP- How did you like the campus/field...small huh?

Well on to Maryville, and we will wrap this season up. Hope Ferrum can end .500
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 07:16:02 PM
what was the final of the AU/Ferrum game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 07, 2009, 07:17:44 PM
AU 34
FC 28   3 OT's
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 07, 2009, 07:26:29 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 07, 2009, 07:08:22 PM
OMG- I for the second time this year was not able to follow the game...I heard part of the 2nd qtr., but had to leave at halftime..FC up 7-0...Cant believe it, but AU is a good team, and everyone knew it going in. Just looking at the stats, looks like Dobson had a good day. 185 yards rushing...Congrats AUPOP- How did you like the campus/field...small huh?

Well on to Maryville, and we will wrap this season up. Hope Ferrum can end .500

Didn't get to the game, had a work issue that got in the way. Had to listen to the web cast although it might have been a good thing. It was wild enough here in the house with just the wife and I. Not being there its hard to say but from the sound of it had it not been for the Ferrum fumble they might still be going. Sounded like both defenses were totally wore out in the overtimes. Wild game.

Final was 34-28 Proud Fighting Scot, Ferrum fumbled on there 3rd ot possession and AU scored on the next play to end it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 07, 2009, 07:56:12 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on November 07, 2009, 07:26:29 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 07, 2009, 07:08:22 PM
OMG- I for the second time this year was not able to follow the game...I heard part of the 2nd qtr., but had to leave at halftime..FC up 7-0...Cant believe it, but AU is a good team, and everyone knew it going in. Just looking at the stats, looks like Dobson had a good day. 185 yards rushing...Congrats AUPOP- How did you like the campus/field...small huh?

Well on to Maryville, and we will wrap this season up. Hope Ferrum can end .500

Didn't get to the game, had a work issue that got in the way. Had to listen to the web cast although it might have been a good thing. It was wild enough here in the house with just the wife and I. Not being there its hard to say but from the sound of it had it not been for the Ferrum fumble they might still be going. Sounded like both defenses were totally wore out in the overtimes. Wild game.

Final was 34-28 Proud Fighting Scot, Ferrum fumbled on there 3rd ot possession and AU scored on the next play to end it.

Thanks for the update!  Sounds like a wild finish and a good win for yall.  Congrats on the win!  Good luck next week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 07, 2009, 08:14:13 PM
Congrats to Maryville on the win.

To the guys on the team where is your pride CNU? Injuries=part of football. But you can't overcome that while playing an average team at Pomoco? 1st team to ever lose homecoming and 2 conference home games. Well I hope we can finish the season out with a W.

85 I feel your frustration just glad I was not there to see it. Probably wouldn't have been a good football Alum for some of the players to talk to after the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 07, 2009, 08:59:17 PM
went to watch the game on pridenet and it looks like gc didn't pay the cable bill :)

the monarchs are down 21-7 and gc is averaging 5.4 yards per carry...not good for the monarchs - if livestats is correct, mu has 5 fumbles in the game (but they've only lost one)...ugh...i might have to go all cnu85 if the monarchs lose :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 07, 2009, 09:18:33 PM
congrats to maryville.

have to figure out how to get the pride hornet game into my schedule.
6-4 possible wow?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 07, 2009, 10:03:57 PM
Congratulations to Maryville - hugh win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 07, 2009, 10:08:19 PM
To Ferrum - on heck of a game today vs. AU.  Both teams played extremely hard and we couldn't stop your QB (he looked exhausted in the OT's, he left it all out there).  But 5 turnovers will kill you.  Great game on a beautiful day in a nice setting.  (PS - the grounds crew who takes care of your baseball field should get a raise - that look almost major league quality).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 07, 2009, 10:26:13 PM
CNU85 - forgot the "A" game? How about giving credit to Maryville.  Sometimes the performance of one team is cause by the actions of the another team.  I learned long ago, that you never raise one's self by lowering others.  Whatever your opinion is - the only result that counts is the score and on this day, Maryville scored more.   A few years from now no one will remember the details of the game, they'll only see the score and if you got a "W" or "L".

As for the comment that a high school team could have beaten either one of these teams - I understand the frustration but even the best high school teams rarely have 4 -5 players (usually less) that have the skills to produce at any level of college football much less an entire team that could compete. 

Now I could say something cynical about schedules, performance, etc.  but what's the point? 

It's a great day.  What more could you ask for with the conference championship and NCAA bid coming down to the last game of the season?  Next week Averett and NCWU will play for who gets the NCAA bid.  Win or lose, having control of one's own fate is all you can ask for.  Occurring on the last game of the season just adds to it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 08, 2009, 12:48:49 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 07, 2009, 10:26:13 PM
CNU85 - forgot the "A" game? How about giving credit to Maryville.  Sometimes the performance of one team is cause by the actions of the another team.  I learned long ago, that you never raise one's self by lowering others.  Whatever your opinion is - the only result that counts is the score and on this day, Maryville scored more.   A few years from now no one will remember the details of the game, they'll only see the score and if you got a "W" or "L".

As for the comment that a high school team could have beaten either one of these teams - I understand the frustration but even the best high school teams rarely have 4 -5 players (usually less) that have the skills to produce at any level of college football much less an entire team that could compete. 

Now I could say something cynical about schedules, performance, etc.  but what's the point? 

It's a great day.  What more could you ask for with the conference championship and NCAA bid coming down to the last game of the season?  Next week Averett and NCWU will play for who gets the NCAA bid.  Win or lose, having control of one's own fate is all you can ask for.  Occurring on the last game of the season just adds to it.

well said....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 08, 2009, 01:17:05 AM
What more could you ask for with the conference championship and NCAA bid coming down to the last game of the season?  Next week Averett and NCWU will play for who gets the NCAA bid.  Win or lose, having control of one's own fate is all you can ask for.  Occurring on the last game of the season just adds to it.


I have to agree with this statement...Ferrum had this exact same opportunity last year, but it was not to be for the Panthers...CNU was the conference representative, and I to this day remember that game winning field goal barely making it across the crossbar. I also remember all of the positive comments by the CNU supporters on this board. Comments about how both teams left it all on the field, and how many Ferrum fans came to Newport News, and maybe did not have enough seats to accomadate them all...It was all positive, and I remember feeling very disgusted that Ferrum did not win. To have fought so hard and come so close. It was still gratifying. All I had to do was think back to when Ferrum was the conference rep in the first round of the playoffs. I dont recall the year, ('05?)but you will remember FC was 9-0 going into that game, and CNU POUNDED the Hell out of Ferrum...at Ferrum...I rode all the way out there for that. To end 9-1 was good, and I remember the class that CNU showed when FC was presented with the Conference champions trophy...They stood there and applauded, knowing that even the spanking they had just laid on FC was not going to put them in the playoffs. (I then rode to Wesley DE to witness another spanking)

I guess my point is that teams abilities and skills change, and some years are better than others. Ferrum will hopefully finish 5-5 this year...A far cry from where I predicted, but they will be back next year, and I will be in their corner knowing that you cannot win them all every season, but hoping that next season will one that they do.
CNU will be a force to be reckoned with next year, as will many of the USA South Schools....Stay Supportive-Good times or bad...One game should not change anyone's allegence

Go Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Falcon2720 on November 08, 2009, 01:19:13 AM
Obviously you guys don't know much about Phoebus High School.

They have won numerous high school Virginia AAA Football State Champions including last years (2008). They are currently unbeaten by the way and probably going to win it again.  

They have several players in the NFL and always have numerous D1 football players on their rosters.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 08, 2009, 08:16:52 AM
Falcon2720 - Maybe you're not aware of the record then of Indenpence HS (Charlotte, NC) - 2 years ago had the nation's longest winning streak at over 100.  Has won I believe 6 4AA (largest classification) since 2000.  Or Byrnes in SC, or Don Bosco in NJ, etc. - all powerhouse high school teams and there are many more, too numerous to list, across the nation.   All which have produced talent for the next levels.

But high school teams are just that, teams made up of high schoolers.  As good as they may be, they're 15 - 18 year old  kids still maturing.  There is always the exception but maturity is a major factor.  Most incoming freshmen at any college level don't play significantly and if they do, it's usually at running back where talent can overcome their lack of command of the mental aspect of the game.  For instance, how many freshman QB's contribute at any level and perform well?  Not many.   Coaches in college, at all levels, get paid to win.  Most aren't going to risk games with freshman unless they absolutely have to.

To illustrate that point (although not a direct analogy), look at what Wake Forest has done recently to be competitive (even though they are 4 -6 this year, they just as easily could be 9 - 1, the Shenandoah of this year's ACC).  No one is confusing their talent level with top level programs, but they redshirt everyone because a 2 star talent that's a redshirt senior is usually a better player than a 5 star freshman recruit.   Those several years of maturity holds true in the difference between high school and college.

Could an all-star team of high schoolers, i.e., like the in the US Army game, beat a small college team?  Possibly, there use to be an annual college all-star game (I believe it was discontinued in mid-60's) which pitted all-stars against the reigning NFL champion in a preseason game and the college kids may have won once or twice.  But there's a big difference in every level.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 08, 2009, 11:14:53 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 08, 2009, 08:16:52 AM
But high school teams are just that, teams made up of high schoolers.  As good as they may be, they're 15 - 18 year old  kids still maturing.  There is always the exception but maturity is a major factor.  Most incoming freshmen at any college level don't play significantly and if they do, it's usually at running back where talent can overcome their lack of command of the mental aspect of the game.  For instance, how many freshman QB's contribute at any level and perform well?  Not many.   Coaches in college, at all levels, get paid to win.  Most aren't going to risk games with freshman unless they absolutely have to.


Maybe you should explain this to the coaches at methodist. they have a ton of freshmen starting and others seeing a significant amount of playing time. they have very good freshmen on the offensive side of the ball. some play and some dont. number 80 is a very good receiver and number 25 is a very good rb. i think their punt returner and kickoff returners are also freshmen and they show speed but lack some maturity. on the defense side they have freshmen starting at linebacker, and one a corner. the freshmen cornerbacks are very good but still have room to mature and it showed a little last night. there was a really good freshmen linebacker playing but i dont know what happen to him. number 36. i havent even seen him on the sideline in the past 4 games i think until last night but the person wearing 36 was not him. any methodist followers know what happen to him?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 08, 2009, 11:42:34 AM
The game between Methodist and Greensboro last night was ugly. The first half was great each team struggled to get any real offense going and the defenses were playing great. a 4th and goal from the one for greensboro was stopped and methodist defense looked like they came to play for once. it was 7-7 going into the half. the second half was a different game tho. greensboro came out and just spanked methodist and their defense. a defense that allows 230 yards rushing a game and 180 a game this year came out in the second half and greensboro exploited them. someone on here said greensboro only averaged 64 yards rushing a game but last night they rushed for 126 and passed for 297. Greensboro was able to run the ball up the middle pretty well. not as easy as other teams have but thats also not greensboro main game plan. they were able to pass the ball at will against the methodist defense as well. there were two interceptions one by a corner for methodist and it was a really nice interception but other then those two turnovers the greensboro passing game tore methodist apart. missed tackles killed the team as well. there were times when the running back should have been stopped at the line but the defense could not wrap up or run their feet on contact. they kept letting the runningback move the pile forward. the defense performed well but for some reason still can not stop the running game up the middle. besides the game up the middle, the few explosive plays that could have all come back from either holding or pass interfernce, the defensive players should not be ashamed.

for the officiating, it may have been the worst game to watch. 14 penalties for MU and 11 for GC. there were personal fouls almost every other play. the offensive lineman for methodist 63 was killing the gc defense when he was blocking them and he would take his man clear outta the play and then they would throw a flag on him. one of the best offensive lineman ive seen play for methodist. he even caught a pass last night. back to the officiating tho. a late missed pass interference on greensboros last passing touchdown was horrible. the entire stadium could see the wr push off the defender. they missed a ton of facemasks and holding calls as well. officiating was horrible for both teams but since i pull for methodist it seemed like the officials were pulling for greensboro.

for the coaches...Sypult needs to do one thing. pack up your office and get the hell out of methodist. once again he could not control his teams emotions and it showed that this team lacks discipline and it reflects their coaching. he wasted a timeout early in the first half to give another one of his peptalks that apparently dont work and then wasted another timeout when the defensive coach subbed a lineman in and he started screaming no no dont let him play. all the bad calls that happened against methodist and this man just stood on the sideline and did not question a thing. then at the end of the game where i found that this man does not need to be coaching at this school anymore. greensboro got the ball back with 3:21 left in the game winning 35-20. methodist had two timeouts left. greensboro ran the ball three straight times and the coach did not call a single timeout to save time for his offense. the methodist defense had stopped greensboro and forced a 4th and 4 and the next play they threw for a touchdown they should have been called back from a pass interference that was very easy to see. so he let them take the clock from 3:21 to :37 when methodist got the ball back. If your going to give up on the game, how do you expect your team to play for you and respect you as a coach? Use your timeouts and try to save some time for your offense to possibly score once more. you want your team to play better yet you cant coach well at all. there were many parents after this game that were furious with the coaching and how the game turned out. a horrible game was concluded by a horrible coaching performance at the end and all throughout the game.

good game to greensboro and they played very good on defense. they are a much improved team from the past years and their offense looked very good. particularly when the opponent starts to hang their head, greensboro knew how to put the nail in the coffin and finish the game.

once more week and im dying to see how many yards CNU can rush for against the methodist defense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on November 08, 2009, 11:55:59 AM
Quote from: narch on November 07, 2009, 08:59:17 PM
went to watch the game on pridenet and it looks like gc didn't pay the cable bill :)

the monarchs are down 21-7 and gc is averaging 5.4 yards per carry...not good for the monarchs - if livestats is correct, mu has 5 fumbles in the game (but they've only lost one)...ugh...i might have to go all cnu85 if the monarchs lose :)


This backhanded slap would lead you to think that the game was not on PrideTV. It was. We had about 50 viewers most of the game.

Perhaps someone needs to upgrade their dial-up account...

Last night's score: GC 42, Methodist 20

Updated Webcasted hours of live video: GC 6,000, Methodist 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PrideFan1986 on November 08, 2009, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 08, 2009, 11:42:34 AM
The game between Methodist and Greensboro last night was ugly. The first half was great each team struggled to get any real offense going and the defenses were playing great. a 4th and goal from the one for greensboro was stopped and methodist defense looked like they came to play for once. it was 7-7 going into the half. the second half was a different game tho. greensboro came out and just spanked methodist and their defense. a defense that allows 230 yards rushing a game and 180 a game this year came out in the second half and greensboro exploited them. someone on here said greensboro only averaged 64 yards rushing a game but last night they rushed for 126 and passed for 297. Greensboro was able to run the ball up the middle pretty well. not as easy as other teams have but thats also not greensboro main game plan. they were able to pass the ball at will against the methodist defense as well. there were two interceptions one by a corner for methodist and it was a really nice interception but other then those two turnovers the greensboro passing game tore methodist apart. missed tackles killed the team as well. there were times when the running back should have been stopped at the line but the defense could not wrap up or run their feet on contact. they kept letting the runningback move the pile forward. the defense performed well but for some reason still can not stop the running game up the middle. besides the game up the middle, the few explosive plays that could have all come back from either holding or pass interfernce, the defensive players should not be ashamed.

for the officiating, it may have been the worst game to watch. 14 penalties for MU and 11 for GC. there were personal fouls almost every other play. the offensive lineman for methodist 63 was killing the gc defense when he was blocking them and he would take his man clear outta the play and then they would throw a flag on him. one of the best offensive lineman ive seen play for methodist. he even caught a pass last night. back to the officiating tho. a late missed pass interference on greensboros last passing touchdown was horrible. the entire stadium could see the wr push off the defender. they missed a ton of facemasks and holding calls as well. officiating was horrible for both teams but since i pull for methodist it seemed like the officials were pulling for greensboro.

for the coaches...Sypult needs to do one thing. pack up your office and get the hell out of methodist. once again he could not control his teams emotions and it showed that this team lacks discipline and it reflects their coaching. he wasted a timeout early in the first half to give another one of his peptalks that apparently dont work and then wasted another timeout when the defensive coach subbed a lineman in and he started screaming no no dont let him play. all the bad calls that happened against methodist and this man just stood on the sideline and did not question a thing. then at the end of the game where i found that this man does not need to be coaching at this school anymore. greensboro got the ball back with 3:21 left in the game winning 35-20. methodist had two timeouts left. greensboro ran the ball three straight times and the coach did not call a single timeout to save time for his offense. the methodist defense had stopped greensboro and forced a 4th and 4 and the next play they threw for a touchdown they should have been called back from a pass interference that was very easy to see. so he let them take the clock from 3:21 to :37 when methodist got the ball back. If your going to give up on the game, how do you expect your team to play for you and respect you as a coach? Use your timeouts and try to save some time for your offense to possibly score once more. you want your team to play better yet you cant coach well at all. there were many parents after this game that were furious with the coaching and how the game turned out. a horrible game was concluded by a horrible coaching performance at the end and all throughout the game.

good game to greensboro and they played very good on defense. they are a much improved team from the past years and their offense looked very good. particularly when the opponent starts to hang their head, greensboro knew how to put the nail in the coffin and finish the game.

once more week and im dying to see how many yards CNU can rush for against the methodist defense.

Natural, I do not know what game you were watching. The reason that I say that with the officiating is because there was a blatant EXTREMELY late hit on Adams on that last rushing TD that he had. I saw that from a mile away, I would of thrown the flag and sent that guy packing but yet NO FLAG. There was no since in that hit. So you can not say the officials were pulling for Greensboro when you miss a call like that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 08, 2009, 12:09:05 PM
"There was no since in that hit."

I contend there was no "sense" in that sentence.  :)

Congratulations to the Pride.  If they can get by SU, it'll be the most wins in their program's history!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Falcon2720 on November 08, 2009, 12:10:12 PM
WFU34,

Did I ever say that a high school team could beat a college team. NO. Read my post again. A fellow poster mentioned he thought Phoebus could beat CNU. I was giving you information on Phoebus.

I was just pointing out the accomplishments of Phoebus High School, a great high school football program and national powerhouse.  Virginia AAA is the highest classification in the state btw.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Falcon2720 on November 08, 2009, 12:15:55 PM
I agree with Natural Selection.  Methodist football keeps going downhill.  Sypult needs to resign.  He has been the coach for 18 years and has a losing record with 0 playoff appearances. 

NCWC has had football for 6 years and is about to make their 2 playoff appearance with a win Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 08, 2009, 12:21:45 PM
NaturalSelection - your comments reinforced my point - alot of young players, i.e., freshman playing = loses.    In MU's case, probably freshmen are playing out of necessity.  Possibly (I haven't any idea), the upper classmen have lost their focus on the team.  It does happen.  Even though they may be 20 - 22 year olds, they're still kids.  Football's a tough sport to play mentally and physically.  

As some of the kids get older, their focus often moves to other things beyond football.  That's why DII & DIII coaches have to bring in so many freshman each year (rarely is a team loaded with seniors that aren't playing).  If the program isn't successful, the upperclass attrition is usually very high.  It's a Catch-22, without solid upper classmen on the team, the losing ususally continues.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2009, 12:30:02 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 07, 2009, 10:26:13 PM
CNU85 - forgot the "A" game? How about giving credit to Maryville.  Sometimes the performance of one team is cause by the actions of the another team.  I learned long ago, that you never raise one's self by lowering others.  Whatever your opinion is - the only result that counts is the score and on this day, Maryville scored more.   A few years from now no one will remember the details of the game, they'll only see the score and if you got a "W" or "L".

As for the comment that a high school team could have beaten either one of these teams - I understand the frustration but even the best high school teams rarely have 4 -5 players (usually less) that have the skills to produce at any level of college football much less an entire team that could compete. 

Now I could say something cynical about schedules, performance, etc.  but what's the point? 

It's a great day.  What more could you ask for with the conference championship and NCAA bid coming down to the last game of the season?  Next week Averett and NCWU will play for who gets the NCAA bid.  Win or lose, having control of one's own fate is all you can ask for.  Occurring on the last game of the season just adds to it.

You missed it too - reread my post. I said the goal was to get a W and MC got it and I said congrats.  I saw a poorly played game by both teams and I get blasted for it. Sorry, but I saw a bad game. As far as the HS school....last year Phoebus put 8 kids into Division 1 programs......8!! For the year, their D outscored their opponents! That's all I was referring to. Frustrating yes, crying, no. I saw a bad game. You weren't there, soo......nevermind. I'll keep it shut.

In case anyone missed it in my post..... Congrats to MC for the win!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 08, 2009, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on November 08, 2009, 12:03:31 PM
Natural, I do not know what game you were watching. The reason that I say that with the officiating is because there was a blatant EXTREMELY late hit on Adams on that last rushing TD that he had. I saw that from a mile away, I would of thrown the flag and sent that guy packing but yet NO FLAG. There was no since in that hit. So you can not say the officials were pulling for Greensboro when you miss a call like that.

i agree with you that the hit was late and they didnt throw a flag when they should have but that was one obvious call they missed for greensboro. how about the missed pass interference on the last touchdown greensboro had, or the endless amount of holding on greensboro when their tackles get burnt by methodist defensive ends, or the face mask on the methodist qb, or the facemask on their kickoff returner in front of the sideline judge, or an obvious onside kick that went ten yards and methodist recovered but someone the officials decided that they did not get the kick, or the strip by the methodist defense that was recovered and would have been returned for a touchdown that was called back because they said they blew the play dead because of forward progess. and by saying you would of sent the guy packing after one late it? what about number 9 of your defense throwing punches and complaining to the refs all game about how he was getting his @ss kicked by number 63 of methodist. maybe he should have been ejected. and in case you didnt read my whole post....i said the officiating was bad for both teams but since i pull for methodist i saw the officials give greensboro quite a bit of the calls.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 08, 2009, 04:05:37 PM
I can honestly say I have now witnessed the ugliest performance by a college football team ever.  From the officiating, to the execution, to the uncontolled emotion, just an overall poor performance by the MU football team.

Officiating, worst ever on both sides of the line.  Didn't affect GC because they were handling business.  Wouldn't have changed the outcome, but it was bad.

Execution = Defense is bad.  It was apparent Sypult should not be leading this team.  It was with out a doubt his decision not to play one of his junior d-lineman after he jumped offsides.  Certainly it wasn't the penalty that ended his game.  If that were the case he would have benched most of his team.  The lineman he benched played 3 games injured for Sypult, missed a game and only played 2 series against GC yet he still has 1.5 more tackles than one of his replacements and 3 more than the other.  Great job Sypult.  You are way past your time.

Offense - played decent, especially the o-line.  Apparently in this league if you completely blow someone up it is considered unnecessary roughness.  Teague played good.  But remember they run what the coach tells them to.  With the number of yards they compiled in the 4th quarter, why were those plays not called the entire game.

I really fel bad for the upperclassmen thast have devoted the last 3=4 years to a coach who cannot get them there.  Sure he is a great man and all the nice things that need to be said but his record speaks for itself.  HE CANNOT TAKE A TEAM OF AVERAGE PLAYERS AND GET THEM OVER THE TOP.  HIS TIME IS OVER.

One more thing.  Kickoff team, if you are going to do the chant and the dance, please don't allow an average kickoff return of more than 30 yards.  It just looks stupid.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 08, 2009, 04:15:03 PM
Well, it all came down to the offensive line.  They rushed 4 guys.  All day they rushed 4 guys.  No holes for anyone.  Look at the injuries.  You are down to your 4th string quaterback.  I cannot believe there is any weight training whatsoever.  I played college ball and we were in the weight room gettin it in.  This kind of performance went on all this year.  Congrats to Maryville, they were hungry.  No 40 will have a ruff time next year if the line does not get better.  One more game and then it is over.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 08, 2009, 08:14:48 PM
Quote from: GCGullett on November 08, 2009, 11:55:59 AM
Perhaps someone needs to upgrade their dial-up account...

Updated Webcasted hours of live video: GC 6,000, Methodist 0
see, when i click on a link from the gc website (multiple times) and it says "the program you requested is not available", i usually assume it's NOT my broadband connection, but perhaps i'm wrong...and mu did broadcast a soccer game last week, so the score is closer than  6,000 to 0 :)

i'm glad to see that my post, rather than a fantastic season by the gc football team has brought you out of "retirement"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on November 08, 2009, 08:39:53 PM
Good Evening:

This will be my only post tonight.  This post will be my only post until next season.  I'll probably have to request my password again the next time I post.

As for the USASouth this year, CNU was not on the radar to win the conference this year.  My thoughts ran even truer when they beat Salisbury.  The QB that started for SU in that game, I saw him play at my alma mater high school.  He is a solid drop back and pass QB not a option one. (To this day I still don't know why he went there.)  The point is, CNU in the past has done a good job of disturpting QB's they didn't do that against the back-up for SU. I don't think that QB would even see much playing time here in the USASouth.

As for my team, The Pride, they've had a great season so far.  In the past they hadn't taken care of the ball which led to many many losing seasons.  I think the talent has always been there, except the talent wasn't used in manner for the team to succeed.

As for the game last night,  nice job Pride.  I was at the game and would have to agree the officials were below par.  However, many posters on here through the years especially from the MU crowd have said "the officials don't influence the final result on the scoreboard" (Officials don't miss tackles, turnover the ball, complete a nice catch, or convert extra points etc, etc.)

I think the defense of MU needs to learn a little something about how to remain under control.  MU's offense I don't think once gave up and they pushed themselves to the last second.  MU's defense aside from spending less time on the golf course  ;) and more time in the weight room need to find some discipline.  

The comments made about the pride teams in the past were they had no discipline. Well the MU defense had none yesterday, even worse than the pride teams in the past.  I've never in my life seen so many players after a tackle go to the opposing teams sideline and talk trash.  Maybe the coaches told MU players, after the play is over to continue to hit somebody on the pride offense.  In the past that would have worked, not so much this year.  (The pride offense did lose their cool a few times.) Look at the box score, the pride had almost as many penalty first downs as they did with running first downs.

Both teams should be applauded for the post game handshakes.  There wasn't a fight and there easily could have been one. Some of the expressions on the MU player's faces after the game were looks of "How did we lose to them?" Get over it.  This is a better Pride football team.

MU fans are calling for the head coach to resign, if that is what you believe then support it.  My advice for the MU defensive coaches.  Start the 2nd team defense.  You know they want to play hard.  It doesn't have to be for more than one series, maybe it will show the 1st teamers what it means to go out shut your mouths and play football.

Maybe there needs to be porta-potty's on the vistor side, because several MU players decided to use the sideline as a bathroom.  There were many cameras going off around me and they were all single college aged girls.  You did have a few fans on the GC side.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 08, 2009, 09:06:08 PM
Hey Guy, welcome back!  +1 old timer!

Glad to see you posting.

Come back soon.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 08, 2009, 09:13:05 PM
before anyone calls for someone's job, think about yourself...would you want someone hiding behind the anonymity of some internet message board saying "that accountant has to go...he can never get that balance sheet right"...these are tough times during which to be unemployed...would you want someone you don't know, who has little idea what you do on a day-to-day basis to suggest that you should resign or be fired? - i'm trying to figure out what the upside of publicly calling out the coaching staff is...do you want to ensure that the players have the seed of doubt planted firmly? do you really think an internet message board is the appropriate forum for calling out the coaching staff? if you feel that strongly, man up, drop the anonymity and speak to the coaching staff or AD...this isn't d1 football with huge buy-outs and semi-professional players

cn85...keep your chin up, man...it's all about perspective - had you made the comments about the quality of play in a game that cnu won, nobody would pay the comments any mind (i've made similar comments after mu wins, including the win vs. su earlier this season) - with almost 2,000 posts, few of which involved whining or crying, i think you've earned enough credibility on these boards to call it as you see it every once in a while...ugly football is ugly football, even if your team loses

psbbg - welcome back, don't be a stranger, and you're right...officiating rarely, if ever, determines the outcome of games
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 09, 2009, 08:26:25 AM
I see that is there is hate and discontent IRT the zebras. Well it's nothing you can fix in the state of NC. Many if not most of the officials you will see on Saturday afternoon in D3 just finshed up with high school JV game the prior Thursday evening or if your lucky the high scool game near Burgaw. From 2001-2004 I saw the 2nd worse officiating in my life. The worse being middle school games in Havelock. You expect that but not at the college level. I have always stood by my thought that you should have least suited up at some level for the spo rt you about to call, if it be tennis even.

Looking at some of those guys it looks like they have a problem getting out of their cars. It's just sad that a coach puts in 90-100 hours a week and then gets "porked" (read something else) by a overweight toad who is probably deeply jealous of those guys who do suit up. I am sure it is some sick Freudian thing nobody wants to wedge out of them.

I feel better now.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 09, 2009, 08:33:57 AM
i can assure you that the head coach at methodist does not put in 90-100 hours a week. as for calling for his job, he has not won an away game in two almost three years. i believe the last away win was at maryville two years ago. this year their two wins are from a team in ODAC that has not won a game and shenadoah who has not won a conference game. they should have lost to guilford if the kicker who made everything before that missed a fg. the head coach needs to be replaced and some positional coaches need replacing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 09, 2009, 10:10:48 AM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 09, 2009, 08:33:57 AM
i can assure you that the head coach at methodist does not put in 90-100 hours a week. as for calling for his job, he has not won an away game in two almost three years. i believe the last away win was at maryville two years ago. this year their two wins are from a team in ODAC that has not won a game and shenadoah who has not won a conference game.  they should have lost to guilford if the kicker who made everything before that missed a fg. the head coach needs to be replaced and some positional coaches need replacing.
The facts are relatively easy to check on these things, but Guilford's 3-6, 2-3 and could have rather realistically won three more (Greensboro, W&L and, as you note, MU). From what I hear, Sypult's done a lot for Methodist as a whole and MU football in particular - I wouldn't be so hasty to negate all of that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 09, 2009, 10:36:07 AM
Narch, I usually agree with most everything you post, however, I must disagree with your last post.  It is not a matter of the head coach being unemployed.  It is more of a situation where the head coach needs to retire.  I understand that Sypult has been with MU for 18-19 years and there are many former players that think favorably of him.  However, former players are not playing for him now.  Regardless of the division a team is in or whether it is high school, college or pros for that matter, supporters of an athletic program expect that team to improve over the years.  That just hasn't happened at MU.  With the exception of the co-championship many years ago, MU has not been a contender in football at all.  You can blame the players, you can blame the conference, you can blame the facilities, you can blame the cheerleaders.  But it boils down to the coach that is responsible for well being of a football program.  Do not get me wrong.  I know that MU is made up of average football players.  Most were the best on their high school teams yet they are not the elite athletes in this region.  If they were, they would not be at MU or any other DIII school for that matter.  This season has been a disaster.  In earlier posts we talked about recruiting.  Does the MU alumni really believe that MU can recruit the best players with the type of program they have now?  I cannot think of one athletic program that would continually get support based on the performance record of the MU football team over the last 18 years.  I am sure Sypult is a great man who has done a lot for MU.  Sometimes a person has done all he is capable of and I truly think this is one of those cases.

A remember, you yourself said this board was designed for people to share their thoughts.  Maybe not the place to call for a coaching change, but still the thoughts of the fans.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 09, 2009, 10:44:57 AM
Congrats to GC.  A much improved team that honestly could beat anyone on any given day.  For the GC supporters, please don't take our dissatisfaction with Saturdays game as an insult.  The Pride did what they had to do. 

I apologize for the fans and the MU football team.  I think our level of frustration has finally started running over. 

It was very sad to see some of our fans react the way they did as well as some of the "thug like" behavior from some of our players.  Frustration has resulted in many bad decisions.

Great job GC.  I hope you continue to improve.  Your fans are surely proud of what you have accomplished this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 09, 2009, 10:47:24 AM
Big time win for the pride.  Can offensive cordinators get coach of the year?

Im making plans to go watch the SU GC game sat.  Would be nice to see history.

As for calling for your head coaches head because a dlineman got benched.  thats just absurd.  He should have stayed onsides.

This is going to be the best offseason for the pride in 8yrs. Thats awesome!

plus cnu lost to someone new!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 09, 2009, 11:07:59 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on November 09, 2009, 10:47:24 AM


As for calling for your head coaches head because a dlineman got benched.  thats just absurd.  He should have stayed onsides.





Mosh, you are usually accurate with your posts.  Who called for the coaches job because he benched a d-lineman?  I think I used that for an example of the coaching decision making, but I believe that most of the people calling for a change are basing it on an overall performance by MU over, lets say, the last decade.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on November 09, 2009, 11:13:37 AM
I think I am going with PSBBG, this is my last post.

I wish the best for all USA South teams.  I hope they continue to improve to the point no one is surprised when they beat someone.

To the MU fans.  I hope their program finds the way.  They are a lost program that needs direction.

I enjoy this board but do not wish to create controversy or plant the seeds for current/future players at MU.

And since I was raised to believe if you can't say anything good, don't say anything, I will sign off with best regards to all who support DIII football.

Happy recruiting and be safe.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 09, 2009, 11:51:21 AM
musupporter,

  I have said my share of things that were very inaccurate.  If I were you I would stay and stand behind my statements.  you might be in the heat for a few weeks but all will be forgiven. 

My thoughts, Sypult built the program?  They have some good things happening, have dominated nc for awhile but now are not.  Its like cards, good hands, bad ones, you just have to wait for the swing.  It only took Greensboro College 7yrs for the swing to put us at 500 and im happy to see it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SpeedKills on November 09, 2009, 11:54:43 AM
Quote from: musupporter on November 08, 2009, 04:05:37 PM
I can honestly say I have now witnessed the ugliest performance by a college football team ever.  From the officiating, to the execution, to the uncontolled emotion, just an overall poor performance by the MU football team.

Officiating, worst ever on both sides of the line.  Didn't affect GC because they were handling business.  Wouldn't have changed the outcome, but it was bad.

Execution = Defense is bad.  It was apparent Sypult should not be leading this team.  It was with out a doubt his decision not to play one of his junior d-lineman after he jumped offsides.  Certainly it wasn't the penalty that ended his game.  If that were the case he would have benched most of his team.  The lineman he benched played 3 games injured for Sypult, missed a game and only played 2 series against GC yet he still has 1.5 more tackles than one of his replacements and 3 more than the other.  Great job Sypult.  You are way past your time.

Offense - played decent, especially the o-line.  Apparently in this league if you completely blow someone up it is considered unnecessary roughness.  Teague played good.  But remember they run what the coach tells them to.  With the number of yards they compiled in the 4th quarter, why were those plays not called the entire game.

I really fel bad for the upperclassmen thast have devoted the last 3=4 years to a coach who cannot get them there.  Sure he is a great man and all the nice things that need to be said but his record speaks for itself.  HE CANNOT TAKE A TEAM OF AVERAGE PLAYERS AND GET THEM OVER THE TOP.  HIS TIME IS OVER.

One more thing.  Kickoff team, if you are going to do the chant and the dance, please don't allow an average kickoff return of more than 30 yards.  It just looks stupid.

It is very sad to see someone down a program as much as this person has this year. Stopp smearing the team and coaches and start to support MU like your name claims. Internet coaches always know a better way for some reason.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 09, 2009, 12:56:29 PM
Sypult. Well he built the team. I've met the guy and his staff. They are good people. They are doing what they can with what they have.

He keeps about 80 or so odd kids off the street and doing something productive. Alumni love homecoming football games

I like to win too and will do almost anything to do so (and probably have).

There is a parallel here with GC-Q and MU (Coach Mike Ketchem). Iron Mike did not get the tools his sucessor got and people called for his head too.

Iron Mike did not even get coaches that were over 24 years old except for a couple retired HS coahes. The facilities were horrific. They fire him and build facilities and get coaches.

Coach Sypult might get the same ax but I hope not. His staff is not bad but the stadium could use a huge upgrade. Might help to get that next "Rocket" QB and a few linemen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 09, 2009, 01:15:00 PM
Just ran across this and thought I would post it.. Regarding the NCAA'a efforts to enhance the image of DIII athletics


Click here. (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?key=/ncaa/ncaa/ncaa+news/ncaa+news+online/2009/division+iii/diii+moving+toward+debut+of+plan+to+sharpen+identity_11_09_09_ncaa_news)



Modified for formatting.  Thanks for the link.    :)  +1!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 09, 2009, 01:18:45 PM
CNU was not on the radar to win the conference this year?  That's funny, I seem to remember CNU having a pre-season ranking of #20 and the coaches voting CNU to repeat as conference champs, which I believe was unanimous.  Then, if that wasn't bad enough, you follow it up w/another bonehead statement about your thoughts being confirmed once CNU beat Salisbury.  ::)

Thank goodness you won't be posting anymore....

GO CAPS!

By the way, congrats on the win, PFS....the sportsmanship displayed by the Scots was very admirable.  It showed me the level of respect Maryville has for CNU, which was much appreciated by this fan, particularly given the disappointment of the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: archrival on November 09, 2009, 01:19:08 PM
A team is only as good as their coaches.  I have visited this board for three years and thought it was where peolpe could vent frustration and have their own opinions whether right or wrong. If you watch a team get beat every weekend and see the potential then it does get frustrating to players, coaches and parents.  For those of you that don't come to the games and see actually what is going on I think you are the ones that need to be called out.  "Internet coaches" ha seems like everyone is.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 09, 2009, 01:20:10 PM
Methodist has a "rocket" qb but he has sat on the sideline the majority of his career. he showcased some of his abilities against ferrum this year. the argument for a coaching change is needed. the last time methodist has won an away game was in 2007 against greensboro. the past 4 years they have finished in the lower half of the USAC and if it wasnt for a few close finishes this year they may have been 0-9 right now. they have had the athletes the past few years. take 2006 for an example. only player that was different was the qb. They had all american linebackers, nose guard, safety, their corners were really talented, wide receivers were the exact same as the year before, runningback was the same, offensiveline had some young players but just as talented as the year before. only difference was a QB. i understand that the QB is the most important position on the offense but the freshmen that came in and started in 2006 is now playing for FSU as their third or fourth string QB. why couldnt that year team be a contender in conference? it happened in 2007 again. the majority of the team was back minus a few receivers and dbacks but the team still could not perform. the past three years methodist has seen positional coaching changes and each year nothing improves. I agree that they have some very good coaches now, but there are a few that are still holding this program back including the head man himself. They are not using their talent as best they could though.

as for next year. whether or not they have coaching changes...the team is going to be very young on both sides of the ball. hopefully they can get in some talent and actually keep the players from leaving and turn the program around. it would be nice to see the green and gold at top of the conference. as for greensboro the team looked good, much better then the past years. i can honestly say that they may be a contender in a year or two if they can get a few big playmakers and keep doing what their doing. this year has been one of the most competitive seasons i have been able to watch in the USAC. There is no clear powerhouse in the conference and it made for some great games this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SpeedKills on November 09, 2009, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: archrival on November 09, 2009, 01:19:08 PM
A team is only as good as their coaches.  I have visited this board for three years and thought it was where peolpe could vent frustration and have their own opinions whether right or wrong. If you watch a team get beat every weekend and see the potential then it does get frustrating to players, coaches and parents.  For those of you that don't come to the games and see actually what is going on I think you are the ones that need to be called out.  "Internet coaches" ha seems like everyone is.


"A team is only as good as their coaches" = False statement. You must never have played or coached.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: archrival on November 09, 2009, 01:43:29 PM
Well actually I have done both and seen the difference in teams when they have had dedicated leadership and also the devotion that it takes from the players.  Where's all the hostility from to just want to call someone out over a statement.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 09, 2009, 02:06:30 PM
AUPOP,

Are we healthy enough to go up against NCWC this weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SpeedKills on November 09, 2009, 02:32:57 PM
Quote from: archrival on November 09, 2009, 01:43:29 PM
Well actually I have done both and seen the difference in teams when they have had dedicated leadership and also the devotion that it takes from the players.  Where's all the hostility from to just want to call someone out over a statement.

Just totally disagree with that. There are plenty of very good coaches in all ranks of football that have bad teams.  I have played on very good teams with bad coaches as well. And I was not being hostile at all.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 09, 2009, 02:42:20 PM
where is the AU NCW game this weekend?? i hope it turns out to be a great game not a blow out. i dont think it will be a blow out but this year you never know
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 09, 2009, 03:03:23 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 09, 2009, 02:06:30 PM
AUPOP,

Are we healthy enough to go up against NCWC this weekend.

Far as I know, hope so, we are going to need them all.

Game is at AU NaturalSelection.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 09, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 09, 2009, 02:42:20 PM
where is the AU NCW game this weekend?? i hope it turns out to be a great game not a blow out. i dont think it will be a blow out but this year you never know

Have they ironed out the kicking game yet. I see where a freshman is kicking extra points and field goals. What happen to the kicker that started the season out kicking?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 09, 2009, 03:26:56 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on November 09, 2009, 03:03:23 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 09, 2009, 02:06:30 PM
AUPOP,

Are we healthy enough to go up against NCWC this weekend.

Far as I know, hope so, we are going to need them all.

Game is at AU NaturalSelection.

The thing that worries me is size on the line. Last year we couldn't match up O line vs. D. Line with them and running between the tackles was next to impossible. We were able to open it up a little with passing but they were just too much for us. Not sure what they lost to graduation but looking at their record and the scores they didn't loose much.

Averett will have to give everything they got and then some. I wish I could go this week but the honey do list is way to long from building up from the past 4 years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 09, 2009, 04:52:36 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on November 09, 2009, 01:18:45 PM
By the way, congrats on the win, PFS....the sportsmanship displayed by the Scots was very admirable.  It showed me the level of respect Maryville has for CNU, which was much appreciated by this fan, particularly given the disappointment of the season.

Thanks Swish!  CNU is year in and year out the favorite and deserves all the respect they get.  Respect is indeed earned not given and CNU has definitely earned it.  We are all very proud of the fight our guys had and loved the level of intensity they showed.  After 3 straight losses, they could have packed it in.  I was just so excited to see them get up for a big game.  While winning this game doesn't make or break a season and it doesn't erase the sting of losing those previous games, it goes miles in the way of recruiting.  I hope to see the same level of fight this week to close out the season against Ferrum.

Good luck this week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 09, 2009, 05:35:02 PM
Results from week 10

Allen c                              2-2
Bishop64                           3-1
AUPOP                              3-1
Narch                               2-2
WFU34                             3-1
Kickerdad                          3-1
NaturalSelection                 3-1
ProudFightingScot               2-2
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 09, 2009, 05:39:46 PM
It's funny how quickly people forget.  Sypult built the Methodist program from basically the ground up.  When he has had players, he has won, when he hasn't, he's lost (just like most coaches).  I was a part of both winning teams and losing teams with Sypult and I can tell you the man can coach.  Up until the past year or so I don't think you could find many former players or parents of players who had anything bad to say about Sypult.  I don't know believe the man has forgotten how to coach in the past year.  Maybe his players today just don't hear his message or refuse to hear his message.  Outside of my dad and grandads Coach Sypult was probably one of the most influential men in my life, so yes, I'm probably a little biased and quick to defend him.

As far as a defensive lineman being benched for jumping offsides...I'd be willing to bet there is more to the story than that.  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on November 09, 2009, 06:14:44 PM
So maybe I lied.  I will make another post.
I thought NCWC was the team to beat, not CNU from day one.
CNU fans should be happy they do have three teams in the playoffs.
I never thought GC was going to finish last.  Anybody that knows me knows I believe that every year.   ;D

I was an assistant coach on a high school girl's basketball team last year. We played in a tough conference.  (Where I was last year, it's not like NC where there are 3A, 2A conferences etc.  The conference is whoever is around you.) We ended up having 6 games that year against teams that made it to the regional finals.  We also made it to the regional finals.

I made it a point from day one that our players were going to be in good enough shape to compete every game we played.   I wanted them to have enough gas to get through the 4th quarter.  I saw the results in our regional semi game.  We just outlasted that team because we were in better shape. Enough so that in the regional finals we faced a team that ran a total delay offense against us, we lost by 7.

The point is in the USASouth anybody can beat anybody on any given day.  I think the ones that continue to win are those that are in great football shape.  From what I understand, The Pride went through a pretty intense camp.  I think it has paid off this year. Coaches in the conference should push their players as hard as they can.  I think to the point where the athletic trainers say "ease up a bit coach"  :D

I am no longer coaching high school ball, because I've moved on to bigger and better things.  With that said, that is why my posts will be limited on here.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: archrival on November 09, 2009, 06:29:20 PM
You have every right to defend your former coach and mentor but to sit at the game and hear the parents I doubt a lot from this team will say the same thing. Which I truely believe is a shame. I'm sure there is more to the lineman not going back in but there is a lot of problems going on in the program, which was evident in the last game.  There needs to be more control taken by the coaches and make the players accountable.  The strength and conditioning is not there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 09, 2009, 08:03:21 PM
archrival: you are completely right...the strength is not there. they are in decent shape but i do not think they are in amazing shape. the dline does sub pretty well and it seems to help them quite a bit when it comes late in the game. same goes for the receivers.

admiralpapi: he has plenty of players right now that can play, want to play, and have proven that they deserve to be on that field. they have guys that have devoted themselves to that team and making the team as good as possible on and off the field. yet these guys do not play after sticking with the program and believing the program for four years. i think sypult can not see the talent when there is some. they have a very good qb on the sideline that is capable of picking apart a defense but instead he sits every game, even after the starter makes a mistake or they get blown out. their depth at wide receiver is great. they have freshmen receivers that play like they have been at the college level for a couple years. their running game is good but not as good as it used to be. may be based on the scheme or the change in the offensive line coach. they have the offensive weapons to run up the score but have found a way how not to use it. as for the defense they have playmakers at every position minus linebacker. their safety may be the best in the conference. they have amazing corners, and their dline is great. their linebackers are their weak point from the inside to the outside minus a freshmen and a senior outside backer. once again maybe it is their scheme on defense that cant stop the run, or the missed tackles, or the lack of experience in some positions. lastly the team is missing that fire for the majority of the players. they dont have the mentality of going out there and just hitting someone in the mouth on every play. there are a select few that can hit but there are not too many.

hopefully they can come out this saturday and beat CNU on senior day...would be nice to see the twenty-some seniors leave with a good taste in their mouth. sorry CNU fans  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 09, 2009, 08:32:38 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 09, 2009, 03:26:56 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on November 09, 2009, 03:03:23 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 09, 2009, 02:06:30 PM
AUPOP,

Are we healthy enough to go up against NCWC this weekend.

Far as I know, hope so, we are going to need them all.

Game is at AU NaturalSelection.

The thing that worries me is size on the line. Last year we couldn't match up O line vs. D. Line with them and running between the tackles was next to impossible. We were able to open it up a little with passing but they were just too much for us. Not sure what they lost to graduation but looking at their record and the scores they didn't loose much.

Averett will have to give everything they got and then some. I wish I could go this week but the honey do list is way to long from building up from the past 4 years.


Kicking game has been much better. Still a little short on the KO's but the punting game has been really good, especially lately. I HOPE AU sticks to its strengths. Get in the spread and stay there, run there traps, counters and draws out of it and mix in the pass. Spread the defense and use their speed I really hope to see some no huddle. Qb runs it very well, limits substitutions and can wear down the defense.  They do a very nice job with it and have been quite successful when they do. I know they have been working on some things that they really haven't shown yet. Don't know if they have been holding back or they just are not ready yet to go with it. Going to be interesting though, looking forward to a good game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 09, 2009, 08:53:21 PM
AUPOP & Kickerdad - AU's pretty healthy and they'll be ready.  Hughes (freshman running) is banged up - but other than that, they're good to go.  I suspect you'll see plenty of intensity from all the seniors, particularly Watson and Squillini on offense and Huffman and Cooper on defense.  

It's not going to be an easy game by any means, NCWU is statistically superior in every major category in the conference (even in take-ways which surprised me).  A key will probably be if AU can get off to a quick start in Q1 (really the Greensboro game was the only one they really did) or at the very least, not let NCWU get out of the gate quickly.

AU is not going to out-physical them.  The word I have is that NCWU looks good on film.   To win, AU is going to have to play smart, turnover-free ball offensively, be aggressive and prevent any long plays on defense while being mistake free kicking game, i.e., make FG's if required and continue the improved punting.  

The advantage I see that AU has is in the return game - I haven't seen anyone in the conference as elusive on punt returns as Jeremy Dixon.  In last week game, his return for the TD swung the game's momenteum.

GuyFormerlyPSBBG posted a few back about conditioning - AU is in good shape as is evidence by their performance in the second half of games (and overtime).  All those times these guys had to run up that hill carrying 125 lbs sandbags in camp is paying off.

It seems this year almost every AU home game its rained.  Let's hope that the weather's good so the game is decided on the field by the players and not by the elements.  Check that last comment - the only day it was nice this year was the CNU game and they lost.  Pray for a downpour!!!!  

I believe that if its a 7 point game or less at halftime - AU will win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 09, 2009, 09:03:51 PM
AUPOP - very good analysis on AU's improved punting and spread offense.  If you noticed this year - when they run the non-huddle or "two minute" drill, the passing game has been far more effective.  The QB is far more comfortable in that because the plays "flow" and he sees the field better.  He has more options in checking down on the routes.  Sprinting out and moving the pocket has also produced several big passing plays this year.  They've been far less successful when they get caught up in obvious passing downs.  They have to stay out of those situations on Saturday. 

In AU's offense - they're most effect when they use the pass to set up the run because the offensive line is not going to overpower the defense.  That's not to say they are effective, but their not going to pound it on the ground for 15 plays and 80 yards in a drive. 

I think you'll see some surprises too, no sense holding back.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 09, 2009, 09:09:21 PM
Before I get ripped for another typo - in the last post I meant to write "not to say they aren't effective"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 09, 2009, 10:26:07 PM
a huge factor in the NCW and MU game was turnovers. If AU can force turnovers early they will shock NCW and be able to get on top quick and the way they play they may be able to get NCW outta their game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 10, 2009, 05:25:17 AM
I hope you're right - they need a quick start.   If AU let's NCWU play their game earlier, could be a long afternoon.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 10, 2009, 06:57:34 AM
If AU runs a no huddle, should be an interesting game as NCWC also runs the no huddle. If not interesting, at least quick :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 10, 2009, 09:03:21 AM
Results from week 10

Allen c                              2-2
Bishop64                           3-1
AUPOP                              3-1
Narch                               2-2
WFU34                             3-1
Kickerdad                          3-1
NaturalSelection                 3-1
ProudFightingScot               2-2


Does anyone know where we stand overall ?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 10, 2009, 09:18:56 AM
Allen C,

I will have those results shortly
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 10, 2009, 09:29:16 AM
AUPOP & WFU34,

Glad to hear about the no huddle.........Couple of years ago we had more unnessary calls for delay of game because we couldn't get the play called in and get the right personnel on the field. Part of the blame was inexperiened players.

Kick coverage has to be at it's best with NCWC, as well as the defense making sure they stay at home until they are certain where the play is going.

I hope Huffman and Smith have a field day knocking the mess out of folks. They complement each other and work well together. Smith has great talent and is great at being in the right spot and the right time.

Glad to hear the kicking game is back on track. It has been a while since we had a punter (Thurnes) that could back them up and have some great hang time. And you know I am hard on field goal kickers and PAT guys. (wonder why?) PAT's should be done with your eyes closed and field goals should be done exactly like a PAT. Don't let hash marks, distance, rush, noise, bad snap, bad hold, bother you. Perfect timing, right steps, right placement of plant foot, follow through and head down among other things like the line blocking will work every time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 10, 2009, 10:17:40 AM
so if AU wins and they share the conference title who goes to playoffs? AU for winning the head to head game, or would it be the team with the better record?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 10, 2009, 11:29:15 AM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 10, 2009, 10:17:40 AM
so if AU wins and they share the conference title who goes to playoffs? AU for winning the head to head game, or would it be the team with the better record?

My understanding is if AU wins they get the bid based on head to head....but not sure if that is correct or not.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 10, 2009, 12:11:29 PM
Totals for year so far in the PickEms are as follows:

Allen C                                  31-21
ProudFightingScot                   30-22
Kickerdad                              28-24
AUPOP                                  27-17
Bishop64                               25-20
Narch                                   18-16
WFU34                                   11-9
Crazyleggs33                            9-9
Moshergc9                               5-3
NaturalSelection                        5-3
Rockett                                    4-4
GC Gullett                                 6-7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 10, 2009, 12:17:54 PM
Final Week of Regular Season 2009 PickEms:

Greensboro            at          Shenandoah
CNU                     at           Methodist
Ferrum                 at           Maryville
NCWC                  at           Averett (for all the marbles)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 10, 2009, 12:22:06 PM
If Averett beats NCWU, they get the NCAA bid even though they would have the both would be 6 - 1 in the conference.  AU would get it on the first tie-breaker, head to head.  

That's why the CNU loss last week was so critical.  If they hadn't lost and if AU beats NCWU, then there would have been a 3 way tie.  Since they all would have beaten each other, the tie breaker I believe would go to regional ranking or some other tie breaker formula which would have probably left Averitt out of the mix.

Being optimistic for an Averitt win, if the game comes down to "crunch" time, AU may have the advantage.  While NCWU has basically blown out everyone in their wins and not being challenged in the final few minutes to pull out a win.  No one knows how they might react in that position.  

On the other hand, Averitt has won more close games, coming from from behind late in the game in several, demonstrating significant "poise under pressure".  They've been there, NCWU hasn't.  (That may be a reach, but looking for any positive "spin" that could be an AU advantage).  Just hoping its a close, well played game (with AU playing the better of the two - so I'm a homer).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 10, 2009, 12:29:53 PM
Picks for the final week:

Greensboro (if they win - coach should be Coach of the Year)

CNU (but would like to see Methodist win for selfish reasons.  Might save the coach's job (if it's in jeopardy at all) and that would kept the MU posters active during the winter months.  Usually entertaining reads and would miss them if he was gone, what would they write about?)

Maryville (home field)

Averett (on to the playoffs!!!! - hopefully)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 10, 2009, 12:37:26 PM
The last time Averett played a game of this magitude was in 2006 at CNU. Both sides of the field were packed, standing room only.

I would think if you want a good spot to tailgate you better be at Grant Center between 9 and 10. Rockymount is not that far down the road and the NCWC fans will be there in huge numbers.

Bring your Averett "Cow Bells" and anything else that will make lot's of noise. Worse they can do is ask you to remove it from the stadium or take it from you. Just don't do like my wife did one year. She refuses to give up her bell. She had purchased it from the Averett BookStore and it had Averett printed on it and she had made up her mind that she was going to ring it. Almost got tossed out of the stadium.

I have sent an email to the AD to see what the cost of admission is for this game. For the past 4 years haven't had to worry about that. Saw on the ODAC board that Randolph Macon is going up from $5.00 to $10.00 on their game with Hampden Sydney. If he answers I will let you know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 10, 2009, 12:45:57 PM
Greensboro          at          Shenandoah    Greensboro going for record number of wins
CNU                    at          Methodist        Methodist will be in for a long day as CNU has a point to prove
Ferrum                 at           Maryville        Maryville is tough at home
NCWC                  at           Averett         Two conference rings in 4 years
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 10, 2009, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 10, 2009, 12:37:26 PM
The last time Averett played a game of this magitude was in 2006 at CNU. Both sides of the field were packed, standing room only.

I would think if you want a good spot to tailgate you better be at Grant Center between 9 and 10. Rockymount is not that far down the road and the NCWC fans will be there in huge numbers.

That would be good to see, game like this it should be packed. Both teams deserve that kind of recognition for getting to this point.

On a side note: Maybe some of the more experienced guys can help me out......exactly how much Turkey does it take to feed 3 O Lineman and a DB............
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 10, 2009, 01:09:13 PM
Interest stats on the NCAA site on Averitt's and NCWU national rankings in key categories (all games).  

                                                      Averitt                                                  NCWU
Pass Defense                                      17                                                      122
Pass Efficiency Defense                       23                                                      111
Turnover Margin                                    2 (second best in nation)                   51
Scoring Defense                                  79                                                       129  
Total Defense                                      90                                                       133  
Punt Returns                                        17                                                      231

NCWU is ranked 21 nationally in passing effiency.  So a key matchup will be AU's pass defense vs. NCWU pass offense.     Also, can AU passing game exploit NCWU's pass defense, break a punt return or two and win the turnover battle, they might pull out a victory.  (So what that I only pulled out stats that are favorable to AU - looking for any edge.)                                        
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on November 10, 2009, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on November 10, 2009, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 10, 2009, 12:37:26 PM
The last time Averett played a game of this magitude was in 2006 at CNU. Both sides of the field were packed, standing room only.

I would think if you want a good spot to tailgate you better be at Grant Center between 9 and 10. Rockymount is not that far down the road and the NCWC fans will be there in huge numbers.

That would be good to see, game like this it should be packed. Both teams deserve that kind of recognition for getting to this point.

On a side note: Maybe some of the more experienced guys can help me out......exactly how much Turkey does it take to feed 3 O Lineman and a DB............

Three and a half!   ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 10, 2009, 01:27:54 PM
Greensboro            at          Shenandoah (looking for the turn around season greensboro has been hoping for past few years)
CNU                     at           Methodist (CNU seniors just lost their senior game and methodist cant stop the run, look for CNU to put up similar rushing numbers like that of the AU game)
Ferrum                 at           Maryville (nothing is like a home game at Maryville)
NCWC                  at           Averett (offense wins games, but defense wins championships)

Im hoping Averett can beat NCW but like the stats show AU passing defense is good. But can they stop the dual threat of number 24 and 5 at RB?? If they can then it will be a great game. Just make sure AU knows how to stop that TE. They like to run verticals and each time the sole person they look for is that big TE.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 10, 2009, 01:38:41 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 10, 2009, 12:37:26 PM
The last time Averett played a game of this magitude was in 2006 at CNU. Both sides of the field were packed, standing room only.

I played in that game and it was a good one.  Unfortunately, I will be rooting against Averett in this game as well.  I feel NCWC will better represent the conference in the playoffs, so I hope they pull it out.  Good luck and congratulations to both teams for being in position to control your own destiny going into the last regular season game of the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 10, 2009, 01:40:00 PM
Greensboro             at          Shenandoah
CNU                     at           Methodist
Ferrum                 at           Maryville
NCWC                   at           Averett (for all the marbles)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 10, 2009, 02:41:19 PM
on a more positive note (at least for MU fans), at least 5 USASAC players were named to the CoSida Academic All District Team (http://www.cosida.com/documents/2009/11/5/09football%20Academic%20All-District.pdf), including Brian Leary and Jason Layton for MU, two players for SU and one from NCWC

Congrats, boys...that's what the game is all about at this level!

and I apologize if I missed anyone from any other USASAC school
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 10, 2009, 07:45:27 PM
Greensboro            at          Shenandoah
CNU                     at           Methodist
Ferrum                 at           Maryville
NCWC                  at           Averett
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 10, 2009, 08:42:00 PM
Greensboro

CNU

Ferrum

Averett
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 10, 2009, 11:09:06 PM
Greensboro            at          Shenandoah
CNU                     at           Methodist
Ferrum                 at           Maryville
NCWC                  at           Averett (for all the marbles)


Road teams Dominate!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 11, 2009, 07:01:08 AM
It's easy to take for granted the freedoms you enjoy everyday when you've never had to sacrifice anything for it!  Remember today to thank those Veterans who's sacrifices have made it possible for us to enjoy the freedoms we do everyday!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 11, 2009, 08:35:44 AM
Papi
Amen bro
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 11, 2009, 09:10:14 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 09, 2009, 08:53:21 PM


It seems this year almost every AU home game its rained.  Let's hope that the weather's good so the game is decided on the field by the players and not by the elements.  Check that last comment - the only day it was nice this year was the CNU game and they lost.  Pray for a downpour!!!!  

Ask and ye shall recieve, just a few days early......even if its sunny Saturday if its raining in Danville like it is here now, plus with what they are calling for, going to be a pretty wet field Saturday. Have to excuse me now, have to go finish my Ark.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 11, 2009, 09:11:10 AM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on November 11, 2009, 07:01:08 AM
It's easy to take for granted the freedoms you enjoy everyday when you've never had to sacrifice anything for it!  Remember today to thank those Veterans who's sacrifices have made it possible for us to enjoy the freedoms we do everyday!



Well said...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 11, 2009, 09:56:07 AM
God bless all the Veterans.  We should never forget all that they have done for us.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 11, 2009, 10:01:21 AM
AUPop - it is suppose to be 70 degrees and sunny.  From my discussions, the boys will be ready Saturday.  Can't wait, but not getting much work done at the office breaking down NCWU.  Go Cougars. 

Note - a little write up about the game in the "Region" section of the DIII website. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 11, 2009, 10:23:23 AM
Hoo  Yah!!! to all the veterans today :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 11, 2009, 05:39:46 PM
Can anyone tell me if AU has audio or Live stats? I can't make the trip to AU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 11, 2009, 06:25:23 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on November 11, 2009, 05:39:46 PM
Can anyone tell me if AU has audio or Live stats? I can't make the trip to AU.

Can get live stats through AU's web site but Penn Atlantic has it showing on thier schedule for broadcast Sat.  Dont know if it will be video or just audio but its at least there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 11, 2009, 06:27:26 PM
Bishop 64 - all the details for the Averett game are on the Preview for the game in the Football section.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 11, 2009, 06:31:27 PM
Thanks WFU34 and AUPOP. This old disabled vets Arthritis is acting up, so I don't think I will be able to make it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on November 11, 2009, 06:59:50 PM
Thank you for your service Bishop64.  And thank you to all of the Veterans that are on this board.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 11, 2009, 08:25:35 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on November 11, 2009, 06:31:27 PM
Thanks WFU34 and AUPOP. This old disabled vets Arthritis is acting up, so I don't think I will be able to make it.

Bishop, any of that arthritis earned at Bragg?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 11, 2009, 08:35:50 PM
Bishop, any of that arthritis earned at Bragg?
[/quote]

No, Coranado, Califoria and North Vietnam.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 11, 2009, 10:45:26 PM
I almost forgot to put my thanks in to the Vets on this board.  Thanks to my dad, all of my CNU Captains' teammates who have served and continue to serve, and everybody on this board who has served.  Thanks to all USA South alum who served.  There was a great article a few weeks back on a Greensboro RB who served.  Your service was/is greatly appreciated and may God bless.  Thank you all and Happy Veteran's Day.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 11, 2009, 11:08:50 PM
May God Bless all that have served or are currently serving to keep us free. A special Thank You to my Dad for all that he had to endure while actively serving in the Marine Corp.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 11, 2009, 11:48:41 PM
Happy Veteran's Day and thank you all for keeping us safe!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 12, 2009, 08:44:05 AM
Quote from: Bishop64 on November 11, 2009, 08:35:50 PM
Bishop, any of that arthritis earned at Bragg?

No, Coranado, Califoria and North Vietnam.
[/quote]

" Green Face"?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 12, 2009, 09:15:31 AM
I wonder if Averett has thanked Maryville yet for the early Christmas gift they gave the Cougars by defeating CNU on Saturday.  The MC win over CNU  prevents a 3 way tie if Averett defeated NCW and leaving it to the polls to decide who goes to the playoffs.

Now it's going to be settled on the field just like it should be.  Good luck to both teams....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 12, 2009, 10:29:34 AM
Smart man, AUPOP! :)

Have a good day...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 12, 2009, 10:44:56 AM
Anyone know how AU's field holds water? If it is raining there like it is here, could be a messy day!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 12, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on November 12, 2009, 10:44:56 AM
Anyone know how AU's field holds water? If it is raining there like it is here, could be a messy day!

Boat races start at noon today....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 12, 2009, 12:11:25 PM
Although I have never been there, If I recall from previous posts, it can get right messy. May not drain particularly well. Then again, would not all the natural fields be a mess after this? AUPOP you probably know better than anyone.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 12, 2009, 03:47:21 PM
 wonder if Averett has thanked Maryville yet for the early Christmas gift they gave the Cougars by defeating CNU on Saturday.  The MC win over CNU  prevents a 3 way tie if Averett defeated NCW and leaving it to the polls to decide who goes to the playoffs.

Now it's going to be settled on the field just like it should be.  Good luck to both teams.... 



Maryville's efforts were noted last week when they beat CNU.  Their effort was greatly appreciated.  Trust it will be a good game Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 12, 2009, 04:33:09 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 12, 2009, 12:11:25 PM
Although I have never been there, If I recall from previous posts, it can get right messy. May not drain particularly well. Then again, would not all the natural fields be a mess after this? AUPOP you probably know better than anyone.

It will be like playing in a Pig Pen after a month of rain. Hopefully they have kept it covered. However it still gets flooded from the water coming down the hill  on both sides and on endzone.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 12, 2009, 04:43:43 PM
On a serious note, I hope everyone has been able to stay dry and safe these past two days. Appears we have one more day to endure this mess. Someone in Virginia Beach reported snow about 1/2 hour ago. All bridges and tunnels are closed. Getting to Danville may be a challange for those traveling from 95 and 85 up 58. I also heard the Dan River is going to break it's flood record this afternoon. That thing runs about 4 blocks from the main campus. Good thing is that the campus is up hill from the river and it would have to flood a ton to reach anything.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 12, 2009, 05:07:40 PM
This weather is not good for AU or my Bishops :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 13, 2009, 07:37:47 AM
AU field's still soaked.  It's suppose to be a nice day but field probably going to be a mess which could turn the game into a defensive/turnover battle.

Emotional day yesterday for seniors, last full practice but they're focused to go another week.  For kids that were winless 2 years ago, to win the conference and go to the playoffs would be quite an accomplishment.  Here's hoping they do.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 13, 2009, 07:49:45 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 13, 2009, 07:37:47 AM
AU field's still soaked.  It's suppose to be a nice day but field probably going to be a mess which could turn the game into a defensive/turnover battle.

Emotional day yesterday for seniors, last full practice but they're focused to go another week.  For kids that were winless 2 years ago, to win the conference and go to the playoffs would be quite an accomplishment.  Here's hoping they do.

Do the Bishops need to wear 2" cleats or waders? ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 13, 2009, 09:41:14 AM
I also think the AU field will be very muddy.  It's not a particulary good surface even under ideal conditions and by this time of the season, the multiple sports have worn it thin.  Add all this rain and, well, Mudfest '09.  Wear the right cleats and hang on to the ball!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 13, 2009, 02:32:54 PM
I know they are moving High School Playoff games in NC to Monday
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 13, 2009, 04:13:25 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 13, 2009, 02:32:54 PM
I know they are moving High School Playoff games in NC to Monday

Guess I'll have to stay around the house and roast some oysters tonight instead of going to the Hoggard game   :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 13, 2009, 05:32:59 PM
Are the game times the same for This weekend?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on November 13, 2009, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 13, 2009, 02:32:54 PM
I know they are moving High School Playoff games in NC to Monday

Only in the eastern half of the state; everybody west of Greensboro is playing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 13, 2009, 07:09:19 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on November 13, 2009, 06:17:02 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 13, 2009, 02:32:54 PM
I know they are moving High School Playoff games in NC to Monday

Only in the eastern half of the state; everybody west of Greensboro is playing.

I think it is predominatly the coastal area. I know as of 45 minutes ago Rocky Mount was playing tonight.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 13, 2009, 11:22:16 PM
I see on the playoff predictions the writers aren't giving a whole lot of "love" to the USA South champion.  Whether its Averett or NCWU they project an 8 seed for the conference.

One thing I did notice - that if Averett wins the bid, there is a possibility of AU playing Mount Union in the first round.  If that happens, well at least one USA South team plays them (actually it would be the 3rd time if it occurs.  Why is Averett the only team that gets to play them?). 

Just noting that as the CNU posters have been absent from the board quite a  bit this week.  (just tweeking you a little from all the prior posts on strenght of schedules). 

Hope AU wins tomorrow but if NCWU does, best of luck representing the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 14, 2009, 01:09:11 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on November 13, 2009, 11:22:16 PM
I see on the playoff predictions the writers aren't giving a whole lot of "love" to the USA South champion.  Whether its Averett or NCWU they project an 8 seed for the conference.

Considering there are no USAC teams in the regional rankings, I think that's a reasonable seed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2009, 09:09:04 AM
Greensboro at Shenandoah
Ferrum at Maryville
NCWC at Averett
CNU at Methodist...it's not Fayetteville anymore...it's Upset City :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: archrival on November 14, 2009, 03:44:00 PM
MU beat CNU. 10 - 9.  What a game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 14, 2009, 03:45:53 PM
Wow, lost to Meth.  Thank you, the season is now over.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 14, 2009, 05:17:48 PM
Ferrum defeats Maryville 21-14 to end the season 5-5. Good to end with a win!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2009, 05:29:04 PM
great game today...some monarch seniors really stepped up...

first, leary makes a huge tackle on a 4th and short for cnu - big-time play
next, cassone blocks an xp - huge play
then teague runs for 42 on 3rd down with the monarchs trying to eat clock - ball game

i told a buddy after the first cnu series that the monarchs had a chance if they could stop the running game...they didn't stop the running game, but they still found a way to win - cnu helped the monarch cause with a lot of bad penalties, but the monarchs played with a lot of grit and effort - great job all the way around for the monarchs, but a special shout-out goes to the defense for keeping the monarchs in the game all day long - clearly those guys stepped up - this is a good way to end a long, difficult season...

early in the season there was a lot of talk about tunde ogun, and i want to say what a pleasure it is to watch him play...he obviously doesn't have the explosiveness he had last year, but that kid plays HARD and runs HARD and is HARD to tackle...he has had a fantastic career at cnu, and i'm glad to see him go :) (although legister is pretty darn good, too)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2009, 07:17:05 PM
I was just taking a nap trying to get rid of whatever crud I have and trying to rest up from the most horrible week I've ever had in my 47 years. I kept waking up to a noise from the south side of my house.....I realize now it was Narch way down in NC celebrating. Congrats to Narch and his team. A double dose of pre Christmas season joy - beating CNU and also sending them to the bus with their worst record in history (first non winning season).

Way to go Narch - great way to end the year, huh?

Time to go read the rest of the posts and figure out which USA South team to cheer on next week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2009, 07:25:22 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on November 11, 2009, 07:01:08 AM
It's easy to take for granted the freedoms you enjoy everyday when you've never had to sacrifice anything for it!  Remember today to thank those Veterans who's sacrifices have made it possible for us to enjoy the freedoms we do everyday!



Nicely put Papi. Some of you may have noticed I haven't been posting much this year. My dad, a vet, had been ill, battling cancer for the past 2 years. He passed away the day before the CNU/Maryville game - probably why I hated the game. He was buried in a veteran cemetery in Suffolk VA the day before Vets day. His grave marker will have Merchant Marines WWII, Korean war combat vet, and Vietnam Era Vet markers on it. He lied about his age to get into the Merchant Marines during WWII. He served in Germany during the Berlin Airlift and fought on the ground in Korea. God Bless you Dad!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 14, 2009, 07:50:59 PM
Sorry for your loss 85 sounds like a great man.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on November 14, 2009, 07:53:40 PM
Congratulations to NCW on winning the conference and going un-defeated as well in league play. I wish you all the best in the playoffs. Also I want to give a shout out to Greensboro. Nice job guys on your best season ever.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2009, 09:08:58 PM
'85...been thinking about you a lot this week, but you're right...beating the capts is always sweet, just doesn't happen often enough

i'd like to echo the congrats to ncwc...good luck in the playoffs and rep the usasac well, boys
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 14, 2009, 09:31:23 PM
Congratulations to NCWU on the win over AU.  You deserved it but I think AU had you more than a little nervous when they were up 21 - 14 in Q2 and the ball on the your 30.  Not capitalizing there, and the pooch kickoff just before the half which NCWU recovered and went down to score to make it 28 - 21 was the turning point.  

The game was virtually over after the first 2 series of Q3, AU getting stopped on a 4 & 1 deep in NCWU territory (AU had challenges all year rushing all year in obvious short yardage situations).  A score there would have tied it.  NCWU then responded with a TD drive to make it 35 - 21 to put it away.

The inability of AU to stop NCWU's offense was the key.  Particularly the way they controlled the clock.  No real big plays (possibly a handful went for 20+ yards), just effect long drives that wore out the AU defense.  The inability for AU to get any pressure on the QB - virtually had all day to throw, enabled him to find receivers wide open most of the time.  Several of the incompletions he had were drop passes.  

Not being able to stop NCWU put a great amount of pressure on the AU offense to score almost every time it had the ball and attempt to win a shoot out but they don't run that type of offense.

NCWU deserved to win but it was somewhat disappointing to see that with the score 49 - 27, the game in hand, NCWU has the ball on the AU one yard line with less than a minute stilling attempting to score instead of taking a knee.  They didn't which was some type of poetic justice.

Although AU didn't win, it was a very good year.  A number of exciting games with the last one being for everything, you really could not ask for more than that.  Going from 0 -10 to 7 - 3 and challenging for the title is a tribute to the outgoing seniors who lead the turnaround.

AU should be able to contend again next year, they have the speed but the line play, both offensively and defensively needs to improve, i.e., strength and size.  In the 2 conference losses this year they were dominated in the line play.

Best of luck to all the outgoing seniors on all the teams.  Today is tough on most as they realize something that a game they've played since they were very young is over, never to be played again.  But hopefully they have developed relationships and positive memories that will always be with them as they pursue their chosen careers.  They have only one last, but very important step in this process - finish strong academically and get that degree.





Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 15, 2009, 07:26:10 AM
Well the season is over...well for most of us. Congratulations to NCWC for its dominating conference run. All the best to you guys in the playoffs.

It was an interesting season. Ferrum, who competed for the championship in the last week of last season, only managed to be 5-5. Greensboro, who I predicted would go win less in the conference, stepped up and turned their program into a contender. This was a huge feat, and your coach should be coach of the year.
Averett was very strong, and deserved to be in the last game for the title. Its a shame that the USA South will not get an at large bid..(will they?)
CNU- You will be back. This was a tough season, but their are too many positives to that program to be concerned.
Shenandoah- This is the mystery of the season. For a team that came so close in every game (well maybe except for NCWC) there must be a sense of huge frustration. The ball should bounce better for you next year.

I enjoy posting on the board, and try to avoid making controversial comments. I dont post a lot in the off season, but will check back in from time to time. Finally, as for the Pick ums, I think I may have won...I dont guess there is a Corvette as a prize, but what does the winner get?.....Well I think the winner should get 1 karma point from every pick um participant....Just sayin!

Now lets see the USA South win round one in the playoffs.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 15, 2009, 08:09:44 AM
85, sorry to hear about your dad....sounds like one heck of a man!!!


MU congrats on the win....seems like the defense came ready to play yesterday.


NCWC...congrats on the conference championship!  Good luck in the playoffs!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 15, 2009, 08:18:30 AM
CNU85....Please accept my condolences to you and your family. I honor your fathers life. There are more important things in life than football, The most important is life and the character of the life itself. Football will be back. As for life itself, no one can predict.

Good luck to you and your family and God bless.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 15, 2009, 09:33:46 AM
CNU85, my condolences for your father.  I lost my Dad six years ago and he's still sorely missed.  My father was a veteran as well, serving in Europe during WWII.  I'm thankful for both our fathers' service and to my maternal Uncles Frank and Murray, who died at Saipan and in Korea, respectively.  I'm sorry I never got to meet them.

Congratulations to Greensboro for finishing with the best record (6-4) in their 13 year football history - nice way to end the season.  Congratulations also to NCWC for winning the USASAC title and to Methodist for a big win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 15, 2009, 10:38:48 AM
85,

I am not sure how, but I overlooked the post about the loss of your Dad. My condolences to you and your family. I lost my Father in March of '08. He was a veteran in WWII in the Philippines. This was a very difficult time for my family, so I understand your grief. Stay strong.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 15, 2009, 04:30:41 PM
Now that the good folks from Dominion Power and Cox Communications have brought me back into the 21st century.....

Congratulations to NCWC. They played as perfect a game as I think you can and deserved the win. Have no doubt that they will represent the conference well. WFU pretty well described the game so no reason to re hash it.

AU should be back in the mix next year. For my first year it has been very enjoyable, just a few games too short. Congrats to all the teams, they represented their schools well. Appreciate you all letting me chime in from time to time, its been fun.

CNU85, my condolences on the loss of your father.

Allen C. if someone is giving away a Vette them I am telling you now I want a re count....

Stay safe and take care
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 15, 2009, 05:31:20 PM
To AUPOP, CNU85, Narch, and the rest of you guys. Yes, My Bishops have won, but in so many ways, we have all won. This conference will be stronger. CNU will continue to be the team everyone strives to compete.   Maryville will continue to field strong teams, Methodist has proven they are a team to reckon with next year. Greensboro has definitely proven they are improving. AU and Ferrum will continue to be strong. Yes, my Bishops won the conference title and I hope they represent the conference well. However, Let us all remember it is a game for us to complain, exhibits happiness, and criticize occasionally. But for the young men, who play, it creates memories they will always have and cherish. God Bless you all and I sincerely wish the best to all and with a little help, maybe we will be back for another year. Let us not forget to thank the young men and women, Past and present, who keep us safe so we can have the opportunity to visit this board and let our voices be heard! But for now, Go Bishops !Represent the conference in a positive manner! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Tireman4 on November 15, 2009, 06:47:02 PM
Congratulations to the Bishops. Good luck to them in the NCAA Division III Playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 15, 2009, 07:53:32 PM
Got a question from anyone at the CNU/Methodist game.

Methodist was at MC for a basketball game and several people from Methodist said there was a confrontation between some CNU players and the referees after the game.  I was just wondering if there was any truth to this or not.  The words they used was there was a fight between them.  I can't believe there was an actual fight, but just was wondering if anyone may have heard if anything happened.


Congrads to NCWC for taking the conference this year.  Good luck in the playoffs!!!  We'll be cheering y'all on!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 15, 2009, 07:55:14 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on November 15, 2009, 05:31:20 PM
To AUPOP, CNU85, Narch, and the rest of you guys. Yes, My Bishops have won, but in so many ways, we have all won. This conference will be stronger. CNU will continue to be the team everyone strives to compete.   Maryville will continue to field strong teams, Methodist has proven they are a team to reckon with next year. Greensboro has definitely proven they are improving. AU and Ferrum will continue to be strong. Yes, my Bishops won the conference title and I hope they represent the conference well. However, Let us all remember it is a game for us to complain, exhibits happiness, and criticize occasionally. But for the young men, who play, it creates memories they will always have and cherish. God Bless you all and I sincerely wish the best to all and with a little help, maybe we will be back for another year. Let us not forget to thank the young men and women, Past and present, who keep us safe so we can have the opportunity to visit this board and let our voices be heard! But for now, Go Bishops !Represent the conference in a positive manner! :)

+1 Karma ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 15, 2009, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 15, 2009, 07:53:32 PM
Got a question from anyone at the CNU/Methodist game.

Methodist was at MC for a basketball game and several people from Methodist said there was a confrontation between some CNU players and the referees after the game.  I was just wondering if there was any truth to this or not.  The words they used was there was a fight between them.  I can't believe there was an actual fight, but just was wondering if anyone may have heard if anything happened.


Congrads to NCWC for taking the conference this year.  Good luck in the playoffs!!!  We'll be cheering y'all on!

I am not sure if there was a fight or not but i dont see why there would be. I will admit that at the end of the game there were some calls that were questionable and others that were not made but the officials missed calls for both teams. The game was a great game to watch but you could tell CNU was not happy about how they were playing. Their offense could not really get going like it normally does and MU defense kept answering for the first time this season. The team looked like they played very well and with the most heart i have seen all season. As the game went on particularly in the fourth quarter the two teams started to let their emotions get the best of them. It was no where near as bad as the greensboro ending though. There were only a few players on both sides that lost their cool though and that goes out and says alot about the players. There were quite a few coaching mistakes on both sides but neither team could really get anything going and capitalize on mistakes. watching tunde for the last time was very exciting and im happy he had a successfull career at CNU and all the best of luck for him in the future. the CNU team will be very good next year with number 7. i have seen him play earlier this year and if he matures this spring he will be a great player. another thing to add to the CNU MU game was he did not play a single down.

Congrats to all the seniors on the Methodist team and all the other teams in the conference. Now its time to get the degree. Congrats to NCW for winning conference(dominating) and good luck in the playoffs. Now the off season begins and the returning players get their chance to have a direct impact on the following year by how hard they work in the off season. hopefully methodist changes their off season lifting and conditioning or they will be fielding a small team again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 16, 2009, 07:04:00 AM
CNU has a long way to go to get back to the top.  The offensive line had no fight in them.  Getting pushed back by the defense on every play.  They need to hit the weight room hard over the summer or recruit bigger and meaner lineman.  The defense needs alot of work.  A base 4-3 on 3rd downs does not work.  CNU were terrible on third down.  They gave up to many 3rd and 15 or longer.  No 40 is a big back.  Hope they don't overload him next year.  I have been to every game, home or away and was just as frustrated as everyone else in the stands.  To get better you must work harder.  I hope that is what the team does this summer.  Congrats to Tunde Ogun for a great 3 years. Also congrats on being selected to the East Coast Bowl.  Now you play against the top D1 and D2 players in the nation. Good luck next year CNU. Thanks for everything.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 16, 2009, 11:18:00 AM
Congratulations to the Greensboro Pride.  Best season in program history!  Didn't see it coming.

That qb will be rookie of the year for sure.
Offensive Cordinator should be coach of the year.

Finally CNU has fallen and the Pride are on the rise!

Great Season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 16, 2009, 12:06:02 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 14, 2009, 07:25:22 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on November 11, 2009, 07:01:08 AM
It's easy to take for granted the freedoms you enjoy everyday when you've never had to sacrifice anything for it!  Remember today to thank those Veterans who's sacrifices have made it possible for us to enjoy the freedoms we do everyday!



Nicely put Papi. Some of you may have noticed I haven't been posting much this year. My dad, a vet, had been ill, battling cancer for the past 2 years. He passed away the day before the CNU/Maryville game - probably why I hated the game. He was buried in a veteran cemetery in Suffolk VA the day before Vets day. His grave marker will have Merchant Marines WWII, Korean war combat vet, and Vietnam Era Vet markers on it. He lied about his age to get into the Merchant Marines during WWII. He served in Germany during the Berlin Airlift and fought on the ground in Korea. God Bless you Dad!!



85,

Sorry to hear about your loss. You have a lot of great memorys to hold on to. Forget about this season, there will be more to come and we all know they will be better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 16, 2009, 01:05:30 PM
i think CNU will have no problem moving the ball next year. with both qb 12 and 7 returning and big number 40 coming back all they lack is that offensive line. they are a relatively young team with lots of talent. all it will take is hard work in the weight room and on the practice field this spring and they will be back to their normal self. and after looking at their roster it has legister listed as a LB. is that true? did he switch over this season??

is matt long returning for one more year or is he choosing to leave after normal graduation for him?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 16, 2009, 01:18:56 PM
Congrats to NCWC for an outstanding year and good luck in the playoff's.

Congrats to all the seniors on all the teams. You have something you can cherish and tell your grand children about in years to come. It may not be about wins or loses, but just the plain simple fact that you played NCAA college football and you were a member of a team in which you made great friends with and you experienced something not every young man gets to experience. Good luck in your future and may God bless and guide you.

To all the posters on this board, it has been fun chating, and/or just reading. We may not agree on everything being said on these boards but one thing we can agree on is we all love the game.

I will figure up the final PickEms stats and post them shortly. While I didn't expect to do it this year, it wasn't that hard. But I think it's time for some of the young blood to take it next year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 16, 2009, 05:38:00 PM
D3football.com Pick 'em is up.

http://www.d3football.com/pickem/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 16, 2009, 08:36:05 PM
CNU85

  Deepest heart felt sympathies to you and your family!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 16, 2009, 10:29:34 PM
CNU85, sorry to hear about your lose, sympathies to you and your family.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2009, 10:36:12 PM
I'm very sorry for your loss 85.  My deepest condolences to you and your family during this very tough time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 17, 2009, 12:24:32 AM
Mosh on the rise huh? Last I checked we still beat the Pride. lol just had to ruin your moment.

Current CNU players let the fact that YOU ARE THAT TEAM that finished without a winning record make you work harder than you ever have during the off season. I still love my team but I'm still extremely pissed.

Congrats NCW good luck in the playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 17, 2009, 10:04:10 AM
54,

14-7 is a win in my book. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 17, 2009, 12:02:25 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 16, 2009, 01:05:30 PM
is matt long returning for one more year or is he choosing to leave after normal graduation for him?

He will be returning and graduate next fall.  It remains to be seen what position he will play next year. 

Quote from: moshergc9 on November 17, 2009, 10:04:10 AM
54,

14-7 is a win in my book. 

Well in that case, congrats on the win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 17, 2009, 12:56:13 PM
My previous statement about my brother may be incorrect.  At the team meeting yesterday, Coack Kelchner (a man I respected for giving me an opportunity to play college football) lost all of my respect, my families respect, and the majority of this year's teams respect by calling my brother out.  He pretty much called him soft and that the team would be "better off without him."  He thought that Matt should have played through a torn MCL and PCL (during rehab he tore his LCL as well).  

Anybody who watched the game when he got hurt (or any other game he played in) only saw a tough, hard-nosed football player that would do anything to help his team win.  He separated his shoulder and broke a bone in his hand during the game, but never took himself out for one play.  On the play he tore up his knee, he did not lay on the field but tried to walk back to the huddle to finish the game. A back-up QB took himself out of a game because he bruised his back (He also missed the next game with a bruised back). 

This is a kid who was voted by his teammates as a team captain this past year and is probably the most respected player on the team.  How does Coach K repay him?  He doesn't acknowledge him as the captain at any point during the season and bashes him in front of this team.  He gets blamed for a 5-5 season, when just a year ago he was the ONLY QB in CNU history to lead an undefeated conference season.  I respect all the players who told Matt that Coach K was wrong.  Tunde Ogun, who played through a knee injury this year and is an All-American RB, told Matt that he was the toughest football player he has ever played with at any level.

If Coach K doesn't appreciate the effort that Matt has contributed to CNU, then it's a slap in my face and every other player that has taken the field at CNU.  I'm astonished that some other coaches did not step up on Matt's behalf and if that is truly how the coaching staff feels then maybe they are "better off without him."

Congrats to NCWC and good luck this weekend.  I'm sure their head coach respects every player on his team and that trust in one another is what has earned that team a trip to the playoffs.  It is something that CNU used to have, and when it's lost you have to look at the top of the organization to find out what went wrong.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 17, 2009, 02:53:49 PM
I forgot to mention that this soft kid broke his wrist as a Freshmen in the last regular season game against Ferrum and played through it.  Then a week later he played in a playoff game with a cast on his wrist and had 4 tackles, 1.5 for loss, and broke up 2 passes.  Not bad for somebody who got a screw in his wrist the following week because of the damage he caused by playing through it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 17, 2009, 05:36:24 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on November 17, 2009, 02:53:49 PM
I forgot to mention that this soft kid broke his wrist as a Freshmen in the last regular season game against Ferrum and played through it.  Then a week later he played in a playoff game with a cast on his wrist and had 4 tackles, 1.5 for loss, and broke up 2 passes.  Not bad for somebody who got a screw in his wrist the following week because of the damage he caused by playing through it.



Send him to NCWC, Jordan graduates this year ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 17, 2009, 06:38:46 PM
cnualum9, is the player you are talking about the QB who played against wesley this year.  if he is than the cnu coach is an idiot.  that kid was one of the toughest kids i have seen on a field in the last 6 years of watching d3 college ball.  he got the snot beat out of him, but stayed in the game.  i specifically remember commenting to cnu85 about how tough the kid was.  i coach middle school football and all i can hope for is that my kids play that tough.  if he has to rehab to come back and play one more year and that is how the coach feels about him, that is a shame and maybe cnu is on the way down.  good luck to him if he comes back.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on November 17, 2009, 07:17:13 PM
wesleydad,

That's him.  Thank you for your kind words.  I appreciate it and I'm sure he does as well.  He was planning on coming back to play next year, but the end of season meeting didn't go that well yesterday so we shall see.  I still hope to see him play for 1 more year.

bishop64,

We bleed CNU blue, but good luck to the Bishops in the playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 17, 2009, 07:48:43 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on November 17, 2009, 07:17:13 PM
wesleydad,

That's him.  Thank you for your kind words.  I appreciate it and I'm sure he does as well.  He was planning on coming back to play next year, but the end of season meeting didn't go that well yesterday so we shall see.  I still hope to see him play for 1 more year.

bishop64,

We bleed CNU blue, but good luck to the Bishops in the playoffs.

Know where you're coming from! Wish him well and tell him to hang in. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on November 17, 2009, 08:13:46 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on November 17, 2009, 07:48:43 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on November 17, 2009, 07:17:13 PM
wesleydad,

That's him.  Thank you for your kind words.  I appreciate it and I'm sure he does as well.  He was planning on coming back to play next year, but the end of season meeting didn't go that well yesterday so we shall see.  I still hope to see him play for 1 more year.

bishop64,

We bleed CNU blue, but good luck to the Bishops in the playoffs.

Know where you're coming from! Wish him well and tell him to hang in. :)

Thats OK Bishop, you got a freshman down there named Beecroft. His nickname in high school was
" Tebow". He got it for a reason, think you will be just fine.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2009, 10:01:05 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on November 17, 2009, 05:36:24 PMSend him to NCWC, Jordan graduates this year ;D
the monarchs could use an all-region quality db...or a qb...we'll let him choose :)

except that the usasac makes players sit a year if they transfer in-conference...maybe odu could use an all-region quality db :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 17, 2009, 10:14:54 PM
CNUALUM9,

No doubt your brother is a tough son of a gun....do you think he could have misinterpreted what Coach K said during an emotional meeting after a very disappointing season?  By no means am I saying it didn't happen, but I guess I'm shocked that he would come across like that.

If what your brother told you and your family was accurate, I'd definitely understand if he didn't want to play next year, but I truly hope he will.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 18, 2009, 12:31:12 AM
Sad News out of Ferrum today- Student was killed while doing a research project in a wooded area near the school (about 1 mile away) Hunter mistook her and two other students for a deer.

http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11523963
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on November 18, 2009, 07:27:38 AM

Allen C,

My sympathies to the families and all of the Ferrum community.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 18, 2009, 09:06:23 AM
Hey, that was dead wrong by the CNU coach.  One thing you don't do is call out a player in front of his teammates.  I would not be surprised if players transfer to NCW OR AVERETT, OR some other program.  This need to be looked into and not swept under the rug.  It was not his fault he got hurt.  Look at the play calling first. ??? >:(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 18, 2009, 12:32:11 PM
that is crazy Allen!  I'm very sorry for the loss at ferrum.  It is tough when someone so young dies.  MC has seen that unfortunately in the recent years.  Our thoughts are with everyone there at Ferrum.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 18, 2009, 12:37:49 PM
Quote from: narch on November 17, 2009, 10:01:05 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on November 17, 2009, 05:36:24 PMSend him to NCWC, Jordan graduates this year ;D
the monarchs could use an all-region quality db...or a qb...we'll let him choose :)

except that the usasac makes players sit a year if they transfer in-conference...maybe odu could use an all-region quality db :)

not sure if you missed the ferrum game or anything but there is a QB on the monarch team that is very capable of running a offense and scoring points. he has sat the bench his three years here already and when he got the chance to play he lit up the scoreboard and gave this team hope for a turn around season but the following week, he was on the bench and methodist was back to struggling on offense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 18, 2009, 01:49:46 PM
Quote from: NaturalSelection on November 18, 2009, 12:37:49 PMnot sure if you missed the ferrum game or anything but there is a QB on the monarch team that is very capable of running an offense and scoring points.
i'm very excited about the monarch qb's going into next year - i think preston has a chance to be very solid and murphy showed flashes, as well - he's certainly a big, athletic kid, but he's raw as a qb - preston came from a winning high school program (albeit one that ran the ball a lot) with a pretty good qb lineage (dustin johnson from salisbury university was a delmar product...those of us who have a little time invested in this conference and d3 football will remember that he was pretty good back in the day) - by all accounts preston is a high character kid, as well, and i think his teammates will have a lot of confidence in him based on his performance against ferrum...lots to look forward to for (and from) him if he is able to win the starting job this spring/summer...i'm certainly hoping he can make that leap to quality starting qb for the good of the team

i promise the qb isn't the sole reason the monarchs lost 7 games this year, though...in fact, i'm not sure that one of the monarch losses can be pinned on the qb alone, but i think you can reasonably say that the play that teague made on saturday assured a win (note, i did not say he was responsible for the win...the entire team was, but that play certainly sealed the victory)...i'm not sure any of the other monarch qb's could have made that play.

my original post was not a slap to the current mu qb's...rather, i was hoping that young mr. long would read that mu wants him as a qb and get lured in, transfer to mu and then allow us to convert him back to db...he's the real deal on the back end of a defense ;)

(of course, it was all in jest...no way that kid leaves school to sit a year at any usasac school)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2009, 02:17:57 PM
Wow - I go away for a few days and come back to this. There's no doubt in my mind that Matt Long is the toughest player on the team....has been for years. I first noticed him in the home win against Mary-Hardin Baylor. The guy was hitting so hard he kept coming off the field holding his shoulder. But he also kept going back in. He played QB the way he played Safety - he stuck his nose in there and made stuff happen. I've also known Keclhner since before the first player ever walked on to campus. I can't imagine him doing that, but it sounds like it happened. I can see one of the other assistant coaches trying to do something like that.

Sounds like CNU is going to have to do a lot of soul searching in the off season - players, coaches, everybody. Hate to say it, but we sound like spoiled little brats. We go 5-5 and start acting like 5 year olds.

Gut check time - fans included!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 18, 2009, 04:43:56 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with the Ferrum community and the families of the students.

To the CNU faithful and especially the individual directly involved, keep your heads held high. You have nothing to be ashamed of. It doesn't matter if you go 10-0 or 0-10, its what you learn and take away for future use that counts. Everyone that was on both sides of the ball and on both side lines know the scarifice Matt made to  help his team. Don't lower yourself to the standards of those that talk trash. Keep your head held high and walk away with pride. Your family, team and friends love and support you more than you know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 18, 2009, 05:09:16 PM
Congratulations to all of the selected "All Conference" players (1st, 2nd and Hon. mention teams). Congrats also to the NCWC Coach  for "Coach of the Year"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 18, 2009, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 18, 2009, 02:17:57 PM
Wow - I go away for a few days and come back to this. There's no doubt in my mind that Matt Long is the toughest player on the team....has been for years. I first noticed him in the home win against Mary-Hardin Baylor. The guy was hitting so hard he kept coming off the field holding his shoulder. But he also kept going back in. He played QB the way he played Safety - he stuck his nose in there and made stuff happen. I've also known Keclhner since before the first player ever walked on to campus. I can't imagine him doing that, but it sounds like it happened. I can see one of the other assistant coaches trying to do something like that.

Sounds like CNU is going to have to do a lot of soul searching in the off season - players, coaches, everybody. Hate to say it, but we sound like spoiled little brats. We go 5-5 and start acting like 5 year olds.

Gut check time - fans included!

I agree w/ ya.  While every fan wants an awesome season, relaistically every program is due for a down year once in a while.  It is football and it happens (plus 5-5 as a down season isn't that bad).  That's what the offseason is for, to correct what happened.  CNU is too good to stay down for long.  Welcome back 85!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 18, 2009, 07:11:11 PM
your exactly correct narch there is no other QB on the MU team that would of made that play because Murphy would have scored instead of being hawked down and Preston is smart enough that he would not even gotten hit he would of gotten the first down and taken a knee. If you think Teague won the game for them saturday he may have, but the defense played their best game of the season, special teams did great not letting #3 get into space, and Teague did not turn the ball over, but when you look at the numbers between the three qbs preston has the best numbers. and the reason he has participated in so many games according to the stats is because he is the PAT holder. he has only thrown the ball in two different games
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 18, 2009, 10:30:18 PM
If what's been written about the CNU final 2009 team meeting and the actions of the head coach are factual, then that's a shame and he truly doesn't understand the role he has at an institute of higher learning.  If this coach berated young men on his team as noted, he should be disciplined by CNU. 

It's ironic that if this occurred, that it happened in the Tidewater area where there are so many quality fine young men and women are based with far greater responsibilities to us than winning a DIII football game, protecting his right to be a jerk.

In any walk of life, if discipline or criticism is warranted, it's done in private, not in front of peers.  Just one last comment, my wife always told me, "when you point a finger at someone, 3 point back".  Possibly the CNU coach needs to look in the mirror before tearing into a young man.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 18, 2009, 10:37:29 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 18, 2009, 04:43:56 PM
My thoughts and prayers are with the Ferrum community and the families of the students.
Exactly.  Keep them in your thoughts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 19, 2009, 09:50:25 AM
i think if the coaches are blaming Matt, its because they dont want to take the blame themselves. hopefully things change and matt can get on the field for one last season because he is hell of a player and deserves to play while he still can.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 19, 2009, 03:20:18 PM
Final Weeks Results from PickEms

Allen C                                           3-1
Bishop64                                        3-1
AUPOP                                           2-2
Narch                                            2-2
WFU34                                           1-3
Kickerdad                                        1-3
NaturalSelection                               1-3
ProudFightingScot                            1-3
Crazyleggs33                                  Did not pick
Moshergc9                                     Did not pick
Rockett                                         Did not pick
GCGullett                                       Did not pick
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 19, 2009, 03:27:16 PM
Final Results for the season:

Allen C                                    34-22
ProudfightingScot                      31-25
AUPOP                                     29-19
Kickerdad                                 29-27
Bishop64                                  28-21
Narch                                      20-18
WFU34                                    12-12
Crazyleggs33                             9- 9
NaturalSelection                         6- 6
Moshergc9                                 5- 3
Rockett                                     4- 4
GC Gullett                                  6- 7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 19, 2009, 03:30:10 PM
If anyones interested in the Post Season:

Postseason

Johns Hopkins at Hampden Sydney
Washington & Jefferson at Mount Union
Lakeland at UW Whitewater
North Carolina Wesleyan at Wesley
Coe at St. John's
Cal Lutheran at Linfield
Mary Hardin Baylor at Central
St. Thomas at Monmouth
Trine at Case Western Reserve
DePauw at Thomas More
Mt. St. Joseph at Wittenberg
Wabash at Illinois Wesleyan
Susquehanna at Delaware Valley
Miss. College at Huntingdon
Ursinus at Kean
Albright at Alfred
Wilkes at Franklin & Marshall
Plymouth State at Springfield
Salisbury at Lebanon Valley
Maine Maritime at Montclair State
Hartwick at Union
Cortland State at Saint John Fisher
Geneva at Greenville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 19, 2009, 03:38:56 PM
Johns Hopkins at Hampden Sydney
Washington & Jefferson at Mount Union
Lakeland at UW Whitewater
North Carolina Wesleyan at Wesley
Coe at St. John's
Cal Lutheran at Linfield
Mary Hardin Baylor at Central
St. Thomas at Monmouth
Trine at Case Western Reserve
DePauw at Thomas More
Mt. St. Joseph at Wittenberg
Wabash at Illinois Wesleyan
Susquehanna at Delaware Valley
Miss. College at Huntingdon
Ursinus at Kean
Albright at Alfred
Wilkes at Franklin & Marshall
Plymouth State at Springfield
Salisbury at Lebanon Valley
Maine Maritime at Montclair State
Hartwick at Union
Cortland State at Saint John Fisher
Geneva at Greenville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 19, 2009, 05:29:45 PM
Natural Selection....just out of curiosity...In your opinion, did the MU coaches make at least one correct decision this season.   Just curious because out of all your post I don't think you have had one thing positive to say about MU on this board...granted these boards are a place to vent frustration but dang if you are a fan you must have seen at least one positive thing this year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NaturalSelection on November 19, 2009, 07:35:24 PM
there are some positive things. the wide receiver coach seems to know his stuff and subs receivers very well but there are some that have the talent but dont play at receiver. not sure if its his doing or someone farther up. QB coach seems to be good. His background as a college athlete is very astounding and he looked qualified this year. offensive line coach does not seem like he knows how to coach. the prior Funderburk that was a much better coach. defensively, DB coach knows how to coach DBs even though he played Dline in college. He could be more vocal though. seems to keep things to himself that may help the team out when they need it. Linebacker coach is a young guy that coached some very young guys this year. havent really seen anything from him because this was his first year. the Dline or d-coordinator coach. he had great talent on dline this  year but his play calling may not be that good. they ran a 4-2-5 and only blitzed their backers. they have changed their d every year for the past three years. maybe next year they will run a 5-2. head coach is the one i have the problem with. every game except the last he called a time out to give a pep talk that turned out to never help and sometimes hurt them late in the first half. and after watching some games unfold this year the team's lack of discipline is from the coaching. if the coaches dont discipline them and punish them for things then how are they gonna control the players when the game gets dirty. second of all from seeing the team they fielded this year, it is apparent that they have no idea what lifting weights. other then a few they are small and weak and it showed in short yardage scenarios. the past four season has not seen a winning season while they have had plenty of talent. the most positive thing would be the players winning the game against CNU. there were not too many great coaching calls during that game just players playing the hearts out and Leary playing his last game like its supposed to be played.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 19, 2009, 08:27:57 PM
Johns Hopkins at Hampden Sydney
Washington & Jefferson at Mount Union
Lakeland at UW Whitewater
North Carolina Wesleyan at Wesley
Coe at St. John's
Cal Lutheran at Linfield
Mary Hardin Baylor at Central
St. Thomas at Monmouth
Trine at Case Western Reserve
DePauw at Thomas More
Mt. St. Joseph at Wittenberg
Wabash at Illinois Wesleyan
Susquehanna at Delaware Valley
Miss. College at Huntingdon
Ursinus at Kean
Albright at Alfred
Wilkes at Franklin & Marshall
Plymouth State at Springfield
Salisbury at Lebanon Valley
Maine Maritime at Montclair State
Hartwick at Union
Cortland State at Saint John Fisher
Geneva at Greenville
   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: trueperspective on November 19, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
good luck to the bishops in the playoffs...hope they can pull another upset and represent the USA South well
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 19, 2009, 10:49:50 PM
natural selection - that's a lot of information to gather from the sidelines...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 20, 2009, 01:08:43 AM
Johns Hopkins at Hampden Sydney
Washington & Jefferson at Mount Union
Lakeland at UW Whitewater
North Carolina Wesleyan at Wesley
Coe at St. John's
Cal Lutheran at Linfield
Mary Hardin Baylor at Central
St. Thomas at Monmouth
Trine at Case Western Reserve
DePauw at Thomas More
Mt. St. Joseph at Wittenberg
Wabash at Illinois Wesleyan
Susquehanna at Delaware Valley
Miss. College at Huntingdon
Ursinus at Kean
Albright at Alfred
Wilkes at Franklin & Marshall
Plymouth State at Springfield
Salisbury at Lebanon Valley
Maine Maritime at Montclair State
Hartwick at Union
Cortland State at Saint John Fisher
Geneva at Greenville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: trueperspective on November 20, 2009, 10:32:08 AM
I agree with Narch...that sure is a lot of information to gather just from the sideline
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MonarchMarine19 on November 20, 2009, 11:23:48 AM
I would like to salute admiralpapi for being one TRUE supporter of the Monarchs this season.  There have been a number of people that use this board to call for Coach Sypult's job, but you stand behind a great man. Now that my playing days are over I'm here to stand behind Coach Sypult and his staff.  These men put in countless hours and gave us a chance to win. If anyone is to blame it should be the players, myself included.

Best of luck to NCW this weekend. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 20, 2009, 02:43:45 PM
Quote from: narch on November 19, 2009, 10:49:50 PM
natural selection - that's a lot of information to gather from the sidelines...

Not if you are actually on the sidelines, in the meetings, on the practice field and have first hand knowledge to everything being discussed. Sounds like a former coach talking. I apologize publicly if I am wrong but what the Natural is saying does sound like he was present and heard and saw things first hand.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on November 20, 2009, 04:51:54 PM
The conference awards need to be taken out of the ends of the coaches.

Point 1) TE awards
GC Richardson 33 rec 660 yards 6 TD's 2ND TEAM
NCWC Washington 28 rec 485 yards 1 TD 1ST TEAM

Point 2) Punter awards.  The conference did get it mostly right, in terms of punting average. However net punting GC did lead the conference.  That is part punter and part punt coverage.  I think that was overlooked.

Point 3) Offensive line awards.  GC was not a running team and relied on the pass.  GC allowed the 2nd fewest sacks in the conference and yet have no OL awards.  In fact the 2nd half of the season GC was a better running team.  Mr Martin rushed for several 100 yard games.

Point 4) LB awards.  Mr. Morrison of GC made the list, but not Mr. Stallings who actually finished slightly higher than Morrison.

Point 5) COY Award.  Listen I think both coaches ought to get the award.  NCWC did go undefeated in conference play.  Coaches already knew that NCWC had a good team, however all the coaches thought GC was THE WORST team.  GC finished 3rd.  Coach Hunt deserves the award as well.


There needs to be another way to determine these awards.  The current system is biased.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 20, 2009, 06:32:40 PM
kickerdad...if I had my guess, I'd say it was a player...probably on the defensive side of the ball, and by the sounds of it, a little disgruntled.

MonarchMarine, Congrats on finishing out your career with a W!  Don't forget ol' Narch, he also bleeds green and gold and has stood behind the program for years.  Does the "marine" portion of your screen name mean you are heading for the corps???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MonarchMarine19 on November 20, 2009, 10:01:10 PM
AdmiralPapi, The "Marine" part of the name comes from six years spent in the Marines prior to returning to college.  There were actually two former Marines that were seniors on the team this year. Finishing out with a win means alot to the team after a difficult season.  I hope it is something to build on.  You are right about Narch, he deserves credit for standing behind the program.  There are a few comments he made early in the season I did not agree with, but he is allowed to post his opinions just like everyone else.  NaturalSelection and MUSupporter have taken their shots at the program this year. Thank you and Narch for continuing to stand behind the team.
Title: Greensboro forfeits two games
Post by: hasanova on November 20, 2009, 11:50:58 PM
Someone told me about this story tonight, so I looked it up.  I'm sad to report Greensboro's been instructed by the NCAA to forfeit two of its victories, over Guilford and W&L, for the use of an illegible player.  This means Greensboro's stellar 6-4 season is now officially 4-6.  I'm a Guilford alumnus, but I honestly don't want to "win" games by forfeit - I feel bad for the Pride.  :(

http://www.greensborocollegesports.com/news/2009/11/19/FB_1119090638.aspx?path=football
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 21, 2009, 07:30:56 AM
Good Luck North Carolina Wesleyan...Get a win today!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 21, 2009, 07:45:39 AM
Very unfprtunate for GC, but they should have nothing to be ashamed of. They proved they will be a team to be reckoned with!

Go Bishops! Pull an upset guys, Get er Done!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 21, 2009, 09:07:23 AM
MM19....where were you stationed at?  I'm in the CG stationed at Camp Lejeune hanging out with about 35,000 of your brothers. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 21, 2009, 03:39:18 PM
Tough going today for the Bishops- Its a shame that we as a conference are not to the point of really being competitive in the post season.
If you are interested, I am posting an open forum discussion on my blog about just that, and would like to see a lot of the posters from this board come over to leave comments on my blog. I have a fairly decent following, but would like to have some diverse input.

My blog address is

www.ferrumfootball.blogspot.com

Or you can click on the little globe below my name and logo.....Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 21, 2009, 04:27:43 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 21, 2009, 03:39:18 PM
Tough going today for the Bishops- Its a shame that we as a conference are not to the point of really being competitive in the post season.
If you are interested, I am posting an open forum discussion on my blog about just that, and would like to see a lot of the posters from this board come over to leave comments on my blog. I have a fairly decent following, but would like to have some diverse input.

My blog address is

www.ferrumfootball.blogspot.com

Or you can click on the little globe below my name and logo.....Thanks!

Thanks Allen I will definitly visit your blog. I don't think there is any doubt the better team won today. Having said that, I am very proud of the boys . For a team that has only been in the league for 6 years, I think we are on the right track.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 21, 2009, 11:14:28 PM
nice run, bishops...sorry it ended so abruptly in the playoffs, but still an outstanding year
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 22, 2009, 07:59:07 AM
You should be very proud- They had a great year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: aufan40 on November 22, 2009, 11:56:22 AM
Bishop 64,

I want to agree with you on your reaction to the small minded comments made on the ACFC board about NCW.  I would have posted this on the ACFC board but it would have done no good.   I was at Wesley for a playoff game a few years ago and it was the most unsportsmanlike, arrogant, pompus place that I have ever attended a game.  There is a reason that the "4 team" conference that Wesley is a part of is losing two teams and Wesley has trouble getting games.  It does not surprise me that Wesley fans or parents of Wesley players are belittling others to make themselves feel better.  It has been that way for some time. 

His defense of "I have read much worse about my team from others" is so pathetic it does not deserve a playground response. 

There are so many things that are great about Division III athletics that a few bad apples cannot spoil the barrel.

Thank you for supporting and defending your team.  Congratulations to the Bishops on a great season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 22, 2009, 01:04:32 PM
Thanks, AUFAN40!  I have seen a lot of criticism on this board, but most of it has been directed at their own team, which all of us do occasionally because none of us like to loose. However, when you score 50+ points and win a game big that is enough insult in itself without having the victor criticize the loosing player's abilities or disabilities. It seems to be that is over stepping the bounds and slapping the young men again in the face. We applaud Wesley's victory and I doubt that many of Wesley's players would take that attitude. I wish then well in their Quest and hope they are successful.

We may have our problems in the USAC, but I am confident that this conference will strengthen. Next year, if we don't beat ourselves to death, I think the conference should be very interesting!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on November 22, 2009, 01:34:36 PM
aufan40

Just popping up again to throw insuts Wesley's way?  Isn't that you MO? Change your name and come on the boards and start fires? That problem with the fans was addressed 4 yrs ago. And many rules were put in place to eradicate those problems.

Bishop64

I was impressed with NCWC players. I was also impressed with the way they played. Wesley just played better and took adventage of some good field position and it snow balled. IMHO the Bishops represented themselves well!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: aufan40 on November 22, 2009, 02:03:35 PM
Any word on the status on Shenandoah for USA South football games?  I know that there has been talk about Shenandoah joining the ODAC.   Has that been decided and if so what is the timing?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WESLEY_FAN on November 22, 2009, 05:20:30 PM
Not very fair to lump all of Wesley COllege into one bitter parent's mouth. I feel Wesley has been very classy in the last 4 or 5 years. I know other programs where coaches curse in press box and teams acts the same way on the field. I think if it was such a bad program in actions it would reflect in the win loss column as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 22, 2009, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: WESLEY_FAN on November 22, 2009, 05:20:30 PM
Not very fair to lump all of Wesley COllege into one bitter parent's mouth. I feel Wesley has been very classy in the last 4 or 5 years. I know other programs where coaches curse in press box and teams acts the same way on the field. I think if it was such a bad program in actions it would reflect in the win loss column as well.


Wesley fan, I have all the respect in the world for the Wesley players, coaches and their fans. I don't think anyone is attacking them! But, I do think if a fan cannot control his words better than rub it in on a team that was defeated badly, that particular fan should be called out. The players themselves feel bad enough without that. I wish your boys the best and sincerely hope they make it all the way to the Stagg Bowl. But words have consequences, and what you say sometimes  may not seem harsh to you can often be taken in another light.

Good Luck to Wesley the rest of the way!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2009, 07:03:20 PM
bishop64, upon further reflection I will make sure that I choose my words better the next time I talk about a game.  I will apologize if my words were taken differently than meant to be.  good luck next year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 22, 2009, 09:03:13 PM
Hey it is what it is. Wesley is a very good team.  I mean very good.  I feel like this, do the talking on the field and if you can back it up keep talking.  It's football not ballet. I'm not a fan of Wesley but I'm a fan of football and there is no crying in football. And if any other fans feel bad tell your team to get their weight up.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 22, 2009, 10:45:18 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 22, 2009, 07:03:20 PM
bishop64, upon further reflection I will make sure that I choose my words better the next time I talk about a game.  I will apologize if my words were taken differently than meant to be.  good luck next year.


Wesleydad, Apology accepted. I hold no hard feelings. I wish your team the very best in the playoffs and I will be pulling for them. I think you have a great ballclub. You should be proud of them as I am of the Bishops. We're still young, but the kids give it all they have and that really is all you can ask for. The memories, good or bad,  they take away from the game will last them a life time.
Go wesley!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 22, 2009, 11:20:14 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on November 22, 2009, 09:03:13 PMthere is no crying in football
rex ryan disagrees...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 22, 2009, 11:37:08 PM
Quote from: narch on November 22, 2009, 11:20:14 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on November 22, 2009, 09:03:13 PMthere is no crying in football
rex ryan disagrees...
I wondered who'd jet to the head of the class!  My bet was on you, narch.  With Sanchez getting four picks today, Ryan should buy a case of Kleenex - or better yet, wait for the endorsement deal he mentioned!  :)  +1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 23, 2009, 01:35:31 PM
From my perspective when Averett visted Wesley in 2006 the Wesley fans and players were pleasant and friendly. My wife and I had pleasure of talking to several of the fans/parents while we tailgated and after the game while we waiting for our son to come out of the locker room. The Wesley fans were polite and I never heard anything negative the whole time we were in Dover. I rode around Dover the day before the game with Averett flags flying on the car and so forth and not once did anyone harass us or do any thing wrong. Hell, I even rode around on the campus and took in the sights and even the students behaved. Never heard the first ugly comment.

You are always going to have one or two who like to be heard above everyone else but that is true anywhere you go. All of our schools have these folks and we just ignore them and try to make our schools respectable. 

For the NCWC folks, you have nothing to be ashamed of, you had a great season and you should hold your heard high and be proud. Same thing for Wesley players, parents and fans, you have a good ball team and should be be roud as well. Good luck during the rest of the playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 23, 2009, 04:05:47 PM
A few comments:

1. Congrats to Tunde on the honor.
2. Why have I never heard of this? You would have thought Rob rodriguez would have been selected. Maybe he was but decided to play on Team USA in the World Cup of American Football.
3. the story mentions it is a scholarship event. So, just how does this game help DIII? I can see the other divisions.

http://www.cnusports.com/news/2009/11/23/FB_1123092618.aspx?path=football (http://www.cnusports.com/news/2009/11/23/FB_1123092618.aspx?path=football)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 23, 2009, 04:49:07 PM
Winning teams from this weekend in BOLD

Johns Hopkins at Hampden Sydney
Washington & Jefferson at Mount Union
Lakeland at UW Whitewater
North Carolina Wesleyan at Wesley
Coe at St. John's
Cal Lutheran at Linfield
Mary Hardin Baylor at Central
St. Thomas at Monmouth
Trine at Case Western Reserve
DePauw at Thomas More
Mt. St. Joseph at Wittenberg
Wabash at Illinois Wesleyan
Susquehanna at Delaware Valley
Miss. College at Huntingdon
Ursinus at Kean
Albright at Alfred
Wilkes at Franklin & Marshall
Plymouth State at Springfield
Salisbury at Lebanon Valley
Maine Maritime at Montclair State
Hartwick at Union
Cortland State at Saint John Fisher
Geneva at Greenville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 23, 2009, 09:26:15 PM
Hey CNU 85, THE East Coast Bowl is for NFL prospects and they raise money for kids who can't pay for college. It has been around for 8 years and alot of guys have made it to the next level. There are only 2 guys from D3 who got invited, Tunde Ogun and the other one I will let you do the research tp find out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 24, 2009, 07:58:15 AM
Congratulations to Kyle Chewning from MC to being named to the National Senior Classic Team

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=3&id=3275

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 24, 2009, 01:32:26 PM
Results from the 1st round of playoffs.

Only 3 attempted.

Allen C                                15-8
ProudFightingScot                 15-8
Kickerdad                            18-5
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: aufan40 on November 24, 2009, 01:34:50 PM
Congratulations to Tunde Ogun for selection to the East Coast Bowl.  Good luck with your pursuit of football at the next level.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 24, 2009, 01:36:29 PM
2nd Round Playoff Pickems:


Montclair State at Mount Union
Illinois Wesleyan at UW Whitewater
Mississippi College at Wesley
Mary Hardin Baylor at Linfield
Coe at St. Thomas
Johns Hopkins at Thomas More
Trine at Wittenberg
Albright at Delaware Valley
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 24, 2009, 01:39:29 PM
2nd Round Playoff Pickems:


Montclair State at Mount Union
Illinois Wesleyan at UW Whitewater
Mississippi College at Wesley
Mary Hardin Baylor at Linfield
Coe at St. Thomas
Johns Hopkins at Thomas More
Trine at Wittenberg
Albright at Delaware Valley
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 24, 2009, 04:22:32 PM
Montclair State at Mount Union
Illinois Wesleyan at UW Whitewater
Mississippi College at Wesley
Mary Hardin Baylor at Linfield
Coe at St. Thomas
Johns Hopkins at Thomas More
Trine at Wittenberg
Albright at Delaware Valley
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 24, 2009, 04:52:23 PM
Montclair State at Mount Union

Illinois Wesleyan at UW Whitewater

Mississippi College at Wesley

Mary Hardin Baylor at Linfield

Coe at St. Thomas

Johns Hopkins at Thomas More

Trine at Wittenberg

Albright at Delaware Valley
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 25, 2009, 10:30:52 AM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on November 23, 2009, 09:26:15 PM
Hey CNU 85, THE East Coast Bowl is for NFL prospects and they raise money for kids who can't pay for college. It has been around for 8 years and alot of guys have made it to the next level. There are only 2 guys from D3 who got invited, Tunde Ogun and the other one I will let you do the research tp find out.

Thanks for the info. Good luck to Tunde. Sounds like a fantastic opportunity and a good cause at the same time!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 25, 2009, 10:31:53 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 24, 2009, 07:58:15 AM
Congratulations to Kyle Chewning from MC to being named to the National Senior Classic Team

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/news-detail.asp?sportNameID=3&id=3275



Indeed - congrats!!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 25, 2009, 10:51:59 AM
Scroll down the attached link and see the list of confirmed players, and then a list of other potential players in the D3 Senior Classic.

Congrats to Tunde for making the team. Also, 2 Greensboro players are on it. I also see the previously mention MC player and quite a few Ferrum players. congrats to all. I hope they have a blast!


http://www.d3seniorclassic.com/2009/11/d3-senior-classic-to-be-aired-on-nbc/ (http://www.d3seniorclassic.com/2009/11/d3-senior-classic-to-be-aired-on-nbc/)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 25, 2009, 02:56:00 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. I hope you find peace and you are able to sit back and relax tomorrow. I won't say don't eat too much, because I know I will.

A special thanks for all our troops especially those that are in harms way. May you have a special Thanksgiving and god be with you always.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 30, 2009, 12:44:27 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 25, 2009, 10:51:59 AM
Scroll down the attached link and see the list of confirmed players, and then a list of other potential players in the D3 Senior Classic.

Congrats to Tunde for making the team. Also, 2 Greensboro players are on it. I also see the previously mention MC player and quite a few Ferrum players. congrats to all. I hope they have a blast!


http://www.d3seniorclassic.com/2009/11/d3-senior-classic-to-be-aired-on-nbc/ (http://www.d3seniorclassic.com/2009/11/d3-senior-classic-to-be-aired-on-nbc/)

It is awesome to see the conference represented so well.  Congrads to everyone who made it!  Everyone is very deserving of this honor.  This should be something they remember for the rest of their lives!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2009, 02:34:12 AM
That's a lot of players -- suspect some of them were chosen to fill out rosters merely because they were near to Salem.

I know that sounds harsh, but I bet you know it's true.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 30, 2009, 07:16:40 AM
Tunde Ogun led the north squad with 117 all purpose yards in the East Coast Bowl.  He had 14 carries for 85 yds and 3 catches for 32 yds.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on December 01, 2009, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on November 30, 2009, 07:16:40 AM
Tunde Ogun led the north squad with 117 all purpose yards in the East Coast Bowl.  He had 14 carries for 85 yds and 3 catches for 32 yds.

got a link to a story or box score?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 01, 2009, 05:17:17 PM
Papi
How about those Havelock Rams. They got East Alamance this weekend....

Sorry all for the off subject
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on December 01, 2009, 07:00:41 PM
google east coast bowl
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on December 01, 2009, 11:39:48 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on December 01, 2009, 07:00:41 PM
google east coast bowl

I did that yesterday -- and then again already today. Still has just the 2008 stats posted on the official site as far as I can tell. And instead of having the game story as the lead item on the page, the bowl is still promoting ticket sales and the weekend's (read: *last* weekend's) schedule of events. The game story is wedged down in the bottom right-hand corner of the page.

For everything that's put into the event itself, the media side of things seems a bit sagging....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 02, 2009, 04:52:33 PM
Results from last weekend playoffs

Kickerdad                                           4-4
ProudFightingScot                              5-3
Allen-C                                               4-4
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 02, 2009, 04:57:19 PM
Standings for the playoffs

Kickerdad                                    22- 9
Allen-C                                        19-12
ProudFightingScot                       20-11
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 02, 2009, 04:58:53 PM
This weeks playoff games for PickEm

Albright          vs.        Mount Union
Wittenburg    vs.        UW Whitewater
John Hopkins vs.        Wesley
St Thomas     vs.        Linfield
Title: Pick em
Post by: abnrgr on December 02, 2009, 05:00:44 PM
I think everybody's got an idea...but I'll go out there. I bet Mount Union wins it all. I know...that is going way out there.... ;)
Title: Re: Pick em
Post by: hasanova on December 02, 2009, 05:45:34 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on December 02, 2009, 05:00:44 PM
I think everybody's got an idea...but I'll go out there. I bet Mount Union wins it all. I know...that is going way out there.... ;)
Yeah, that's a stretch.  lol  I realize they're probably the two best teams - again! - but I'm actually quite bored with MUC/UWW finals.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on December 03, 2009, 07:43:08 AM
Its going to be tough to comeback with 4 games left...I need a few upsets...hummmmmm. Oh well, I will do the best I can. Mayber Kickrdad will pick Albright and Wittenburg   ;)



Albright          vs.        Mount Union
Wittenburg    vs.        UW Whitewater
John Hopkins vs.        Wesley
St Thomas     vs.        Linfield
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on December 03, 2009, 11:20:54 AM
http://petersburgsports.com/ecb/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogca (http://petersburgsports.com/ecb/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogca)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on December 03, 2009, 09:08:56 PM
Albright          vs.        Mount Union
Wittenburg    vs.        UW Whitewater
John Hopkins vs.        Wesley
St Thomas     vs.        Linfield
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 04, 2009, 02:44:02 PM
Albright          vs.        Mount Union
Wittenburg    vs.        UW Whitewater
John Hopkins vs.        Wesley     Depends on which Wesley team shows up
St Thomas     vs.        Linfield   This one could go either way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on December 04, 2009, 04:20:05 PM
ABN...the Rams always field a tough nosed, hard hitting team!!!  At least someone from that area had a good season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCSID on December 06, 2009, 09:37:05 PM
I enjoyed watching Kyle Chewning from Maryville and the three players from Greensboro at the D3 Senior Classic. I would have liked to see some more USA South talent. All four players excelled. I posted a video of the event at: http://www.youtube.com/user/ScotsBroadcasting

This is a great experience for our D3 athletes and I hope it takes off in the future.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 07, 2009, 04:50:27 PM
Latest Playoff Pickem Results

Allen-C                    4-0
ProudFightingScot   3-1
Kickerdad                4-0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 07, 2009, 04:54:16 PM
Semi Final Pickems for 2009

Wesley            vs.         Mt. Union
Linfield             vs.         UW Whitewater
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 07, 2009, 04:56:42 PM
Totals for Playoff PickEms to date.

ProudFightingScot             23-12
Allen-C                               23-12
Kickerdad                           26- 9
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on December 07, 2009, 07:08:29 PM
Semi Final Pickems for 2009

Wesley            vs.         Mt. Union
Linfield             vs.         UW Whitewater

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on December 09, 2009, 05:55:53 PM
Wesley            vs.         Mt. Union
Linfield             vs.         UW Whitewater
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 11, 2009, 04:57:26 PM
Semi Final Pickems for 2009

Wesley            vs.         Mt. Union
Linfield             vs.         UW Whitewater
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on December 11, 2009, 07:59:40 PM
Not the right place....but GO TRIBE!!!

William and Mary!!!
MBA '95
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 11, 2009, 08:45:27 PM
Report in the Winchester VA Star  (subscription required)

Shenandoah has decided not to seek Football affiliation in the ODAC.

The ODAC would not accept them as a full member.

SU could not find a satisfactory home in another conference.  (CSAC?  Capital AC?,  MAC? just conjecture, but those are the ones that are close.)

So, they will stay in the USA South.

This probably leaves the GSAC hanging on its own.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on December 12, 2009, 06:57:26 PM


Not the right place....but GO TRIBE!!!

William and Mary!!!
MBA '95
   

Hey I am a huge Ferrum Fan, but living in Williamsburg, W&M gives the Panthers stiff competition as my favorite. Wish they could have won.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 15, 2009, 11:50:25 AM
Totals for Playoff PickEms to date.

ProudFightingScot             25-12
Allen-C                               25-12
Kickerdad                           28- 9
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 15, 2009, 11:57:08 AM
FINALS


Mt. Union              vs.                UW Whitewater
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on December 15, 2009, 10:33:00 PM
Mt. Union              vs.                UW Whitewater
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on December 16, 2009, 12:39:38 AM
PFS- I hate ties, and I cant win, so...





Mt. Union              vs.                UW Whitewater
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 21, 2009, 12:18:55 PM
Championship finals

Allen-C                           1-0
ProudFightingScot          0-1
Kickerdad                       forgot to log on and pick

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 21, 2009, 12:20:25 PM
Final Totals for Playoff PickEms

ProudFightingScot             25-13
Allen-C                              26-12
Kickerdad                           28- 9

Enjoyed, catch ya'll next year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCSID on December 21, 2009, 04:15:19 PM
Congratulations to Maryvile's Kyle Chewning for earning an All-American selection. MC's all-time leading tackler and three-time All-USA South performer. It was a pleasure watching him over the past four seasons. He will be an excellent teacher/coach in the future.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 21, 2009, 10:44:12 PM
MIT didn't face nearly the caliber of competition that other players named did. In fact, the fact that four of the top seven rushers were from the same conference suggests that perhaps the NEFC just doesn't play good rush defense.

Plenty of other men put their hearts and souls into seasons as well, you know. That's what's real. We keep it real -- you don't really have any idea what Division III's reality is, though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 22, 2009, 08:10:14 AM
Doesn't make you qualified to judge D-III players on paper.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on December 23, 2009, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 21, 2009, 10:44:12 PM
MIT didn't face nearly the caliber of competition that other players named did. In fact, the fact that four of the top seven rushers were from the same conference suggests that perhaps the NEFC just doesn't play good rush defense.

Plenty of other men put their hearts and souls into seasons as well, you know. That's what's real. We keep it real -- you don't really have any idea what Division III's reality is, though.


Pat, what are you talking about?????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 23, 2009, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on December 23, 2009, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 21, 2009, 10:44:12 PM
MIT didn't face nearly the caliber of competition that other players named did. In fact, the fact that four of the top seven rushers were from the same conference suggests that perhaps the NEFC just doesn't play good rush defense.

Plenty of other men put their hearts and souls into seasons as well, you know. That's what's real. We keep it real -- you don't really have any idea what Division III's reality is, though.


Pat, what are you talking about?????
Some former D-1 player was complaining about All-American selections on the D3football.com team.

He eventually acknowledged that his D-1 experience did not necessarily qualify him to judge D-III talent on paper.

He appears to have deleted his posts on the topic.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on December 25, 2009, 04:38:08 PM
Wish everyone a Merry Christmas to you and your families.   Please keep your prayers with our men & women in the military who are away from their families protecting our country.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on December 29, 2009, 09:24:10 AM
Where's the "love" for Jeremy Dixon of Averett?  He was the only USA South player to be named to either the 1st or 2nd team D3 All-American squad (2nd team as a Return Specialist).

If there was a shortcoming in the Averett coaching staff this past year was not utilizing him enough.  Possibly one of the most exciting players in the conference in some time (3 TD's on returns).  Only returned 6 KO's for and average of 49 yard average and 2 TD's.  If you take out the 2 TD's, he still averaged over 30+ yards on the returns.

Provided Averett doesn't lose any of its talented freshmen (always a potential issue in D3) and the line gets stronger, they should be extremely competitive again next year in the conference.

An early indication as to how Averett and NC Weslyan are next year is that they start off the season with an early common non-conference foe, i.e., Hampton-Sydney.  Averett opens the season against them, NCWU plays them in Week 2.

Have a good New Year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on January 03, 2010, 01:06:17 AM
D-I and D-III not so different: New SU Athletic Director Wayne Edwards weighs in
What are the differences between division-I and division-III sports programs?

Click the video or read the comments from Wayne Edwards (Shenandoah University's new Athletic Director).

Posted: 9:11 PM Dec 28, 2009
Reporter: Mike Giangreco

http://www.tv3winchester.com/sports/headlines/80239697.html (http://www.tv3winchester.com/sports/headlines/80239697.html)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on January 03, 2010, 01:10:32 AM
SU's Wayne Edwards:
Quote"There's scholarships at D-I and none at D-III, but you still have student athletes, you still have coaches and they still want to win. So when you talk about differences in many cases they're grossly overstated. Because in the final analysis, student athletes want to play, coaches want to coach and you don't go out to lose, you go out to try and win."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on January 04, 2010, 09:28:58 AM
I'd have to say that while that is a positive perspective to put forth to the press, I do not believe for a min. that this guy is foolish enough to think that SU could compete on the same level with a Virginia Tech, UVA, Alabama, or Texas. While there is equity in the desires of the players and coaches, that is really where the similarities stop.

How about monies to hire the best coaches....Do D3 schools have the kind of money budgeted to attract someone like Nick Saban, or Mack Brown.....
Unfortunately, it does come down to money for talent in the form of scholarships, and I do not see how this is grossly overstated at all.

D3 without scholarships is the purest form of college football.....made up of coaches and players who do play just because they want to, not because they are getting paid to do so....or at least paid really well as a coach.


This is positive spinning for the media.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on January 04, 2010, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: Allen C on January 04, 2010, 09:28:58 AM
I do not believe for a min. that this guy is foolish enough to think that SU could compete on the same level with a Virginia Tech, UVA, Alabama, or Texas. While there is equity in the desires of the players and coaches, that is really where the similarities stop.

I don't know. I think Shenandoah could compete pretty well against this year's UVA team. (Sorry Kickerdad! ;D )

I didn't take the quote to really be a skill-on-skill comparison. As you alluded to, the quote I think was meant to be a little more abstract in terms of competitive drive. Whether a student or coach at the Div.-I or III level, you play to win. The level of passion the coaches and players put for is what's negligible. The talent typically isn't anywhere close between the two levels, but the love of the game is.

Personally, I don't give most Division I athletes as much credit for playing the game for character and leadership growth as I do for Division III athletes, but the lifelong thrill of taking the field is the same.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on January 08, 2010, 09:41:31 AM
I think was meant to be a little more abstract in terms of competitive drive.


I think this is the premise that was being put forth...I, like you doubt he was making competitive comparisons. His quote left room for liberal interpretation I thought.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on January 08, 2010, 03:25:07 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on January 04, 2010, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: Allen C on January 04, 2010, 09:28:58 AM
I do not believe for a min. that this guy is foolish enough to think that SU could compete on the same level with a Virginia Tech, UVA, Alabama, or Texas. While there is equity in the desires of the players and coaches, that is really where the similarities stop.

I don't know. I think Shenandoah could compete pretty well against this year's UVA team. (Sorry Kickerdad! ;D )

I didn't take the quote to really be a skill-on-skill comparison. As you alluded to, the quote I think was meant to be a little more abstract in terms of competitive drive. Whether a student or coach at the Div.-I or III level, you play to win. The level of passion the coaches and players put for is what's negligible. The talent typically isn't anywhere close between the two levels, but the love of the game is.

Personally, I don't give most Division I athletes as much credit for playing the game for character and leadership growth as I do for Division III athletes, but the lifelong thrill of taking the field is the same.

     As I have said many times......the only thing that kept me from playing D1 was speed, size, strength, and not enough talent. Otherwise......I was right there.  ;) :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CBE on January 08, 2010, 10:58:27 PM
Quote from: allsky7 on January 08, 2010, 03:25:07 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on January 04, 2010, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: Allen C on January 04, 2010, 09:28:58 AM
I do not believe for a min. that this guy is foolish enough to think that SU could compete on the same level with a Virginia Tech, UVA, Alabama, or Texas. While there is equity in the desires of the players and coaches, that is really where the similarities stop.


I don't know. I think Shenandoah could compete pretty well against this year's UVA team. (Sorry Kickerdad! ;D )

I didn't take the quote to really be a skill-on-skill comparison. As you alluded to, the quote I think was meant to be a little more abstract in terms of competitive drive. Whether a student or coach at the Div.-I or III level, you play to win. The level of passion the coaches and players put for is what's negligible. The talent typically isn't anywhere close between the two levels, but the love of the game is.

Personally, I don't give most Division I athletes as much credit for playing the game for character and leadership growth as I do for Division III athletes, but the lifelong thrill of taking the field is the same.

     As I have said many times......the only thing that kept me from playing D1 was speed, size, strength, and not enough talent. Otherwise......I was right there.  ;) :D
Sky, but you had all the intangibles and an excellent blood line.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on January 11, 2010, 09:52:47 AM
Indeed.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on January 12, 2010, 02:21:32 PM
As I have said many times......the only thing that kept me from playing D1 was speed, size, strength, and not enough talent. Otherwise......I was right there.   

LOL. Somehow that description fits me. Damn you ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on January 15, 2010, 04:24:10 PM
Man this board is like that 1971 Indiana State Police "death on the Highway" they showed us in High School Drivers ed.....dead :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on January 30, 2010, 10:59:56 AM
Congratulations to SU coach Joe Jacoby. He will be inducted to the Kentucky chapter of the NFL Retired Players Association for induction into its Hall of Fame and also to Phil Simms All-Iron Team: Super Bowl Edition. Also on the SU web page www.suhornets.com they wrote that on Super Bowl day @1:00 on CBS Jacoby will be featured on the show and some practice footage of the Hornets will be shown with him from November.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 01, 2010, 10:14:54 AM
Papi

pull me in this week. My Who Dats in the show. I used to sit on 20 year line in the dome in the early 70's and just watched horror. Pull Da Saints in man....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 01, 2010, 12:41:30 PM
dont think the saints have a chance.  think they lose by 14
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 01, 2010, 01:09:40 PM
Thanks Mosh...you're a hater.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on February 01, 2010, 04:58:00 PM
ABN...how the heck are brother?  My wife is a Saints fan so I guess I will be rootin' Brees and boys on.  We'll be frying some of them good ol' Harkers Island shrimp up for the party...you coming?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 02, 2010, 02:13:57 PM
I would like to be around some "friendlies" but I am stuck in this rat hole.

Lets hope the Colts put the ball on the ground....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on February 04, 2010, 11:52:09 AM
anytime abngr.

i had the chance to see the great pat coleman on espn last night.  what a superstar he has become...does he twitter ?

Anyways.

SB score predictions?

indy 35
saints 21
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 04, 2010, 12:48:02 PM
you know Mosh. I have the same feeling IRT the score.

I have watched them since 1967 and finally in the Dome in the 70's. I have seen everything and I have been weary of them blowing a big one like they have many times before. They will need breaks. Even Guilford needs breaks. LOL

I will say "Who Dat" anyway.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on February 04, 2010, 02:42:14 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on February 04, 2010, 11:52:09 AM
anytime abngr.

i had the chance to see the great pat coleman on espn last night.  what a superstar he has become...does he twitter ?

Anyways.

SB score predictions?

indy 35
saints 21

Affirmative.. I think its @D3Sports or something
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 04, 2010, 04:07:30 PM
Andy F
I just got your name. LOL

I am slow ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 04, 2010, 04:22:35 PM
@d3football -- also @d3hoops -- and thanks, I think. Not exactly Chad Ochocinco or Ashton Kutcher, but yeah, we're on Twitter. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on February 05, 2010, 03:10:53 PM
Final 2009 Standings:

7-0       8-3 ... NCW
5-2       7-3 ... AU
4-3       5-5 ... CNU
4-3       4-6 ... GB
3-4       5-5 ... FC
3-4       4-6 ... MV
2-5       3-7 ... MU
0-7       1-9 ... SU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 06, 2010, 07:52:49 AM
Quote from: USA_Fan on February 05, 2010, 03:10:53 PM
Final 2009 Standings:

7-0       8-3 ... NCW
5-2       7-3 ... AU
4-3       5-5 ... CNU
4-3       4-6 ... GB
3-4       5-5 ... FC
3-4       4-6 ... MV
2-5       3-7 ... MU
0-7       1-9 ... SU
wow...thanks :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 07, 2010, 10:54:16 PM
Time for combines and prodays.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 08, 2010, 12:43:46 PM
Sorry for the non D3 talk but

WHO DAT!!!!!!!!

Atta boy for Garcon the only D3 dude to catch a TD in the SUper Bowl (I think) ....even though he was trying to hurt Da Saints
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 08, 2010, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on February 08, 2010, 12:43:46 PM
Atta boy for Garcon the only D3 dude to catch a TD in the SUper Bowl (I think) ....even though he was trying to hurt Da Saints

He's the third (players from Augustana and Wabash have also done the deed). ;)

Still, it is a pretty awesome level he's succeeded at!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 08, 2010, 06:37:01 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on February 08, 2010, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on February 08, 2010, 12:43:46 PM
Atta boy for Garcon the only D3 dude to catch a TD in the SUper Bowl (I think) ....even though he was trying to hurt Da Saints

He's the third (players from Augustana and Wabash have also done the deed). ;)

Still, it is a pretty awesome level he's succeeded at!

Pete Metzelaars for Wabash
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 08, 2010, 09:22:10 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 08, 2010, 06:37:01 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on February 08, 2010, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on February 08, 2010, 12:43:46 PM
Atta boy for Garcon the only D3 dude to catch a TD in the SUper Bowl (I think) ....even though he was trying to hurt Da Saints

He's the third (players from Augustana and Wabash have also done the deed). ;)

Still, it is a pretty awesome level he's succeeded at!

Pete Metzelaars for Wabash

Yeah, I'll have to amend my earlier statement. The Augustana player was Bengals quarterback Ken Anderson, and it's unlikely that his Super Bowl touchdown was a reception. Rather, it was probably a sneak. :)
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=905867
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 08, 2010, 11:11:48 PM
garcon is an absolute beast...he's probably the best pure athlete on the colts roster, and that's saying something...what i'm amazed at is how well he runs routes and what strong hands he has...i think he'll have a long, productive career
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 09, 2010, 01:18:25 PM
concur with Narch...but as long as he is productive with the AFC.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 10, 2010, 07:19:05 AM
Hopefully there will another d3 player playing in the NFL. I mean there will be.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 10, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
Along that line "Real" I would like to see a brutish lineman...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 10, 2010, 01:29:49 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on February 10, 2010, 01:18:21 PM
Along that line "Real" I would like to see a brutish lineman...
probably one of the toughest positions to be filled by a d3'er (or college football player, for that matter) - most d3 guys who are big enough, aren't athletic enough and the ones athletic enough aren't big enough...if they are big enough and athletic enough, they probably aren't a d3 player (although I do recall that mt. union had a big OL that was signed at ohio state and didn't qualify who was mentioned as a pro prospect...not sure if he is still in school or if he panned out)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 10, 2010, 02:06:11 PM
You're right Narch about all. I remember seeing some monsters in 2004 at Catholic (OL) and they were quick. Feet, reach, strength, balance....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 11, 2010, 12:10:04 AM
Im guessing there may be one at CNU WHO IS 6'0 AND 215 POUNDS.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 11, 2010, 04:18:47 PM
Almost every school I saw from 2001-2004 had a huge OT. Even GC-Q had a 6'7" OT during that time and he had some talent but did not want to put the time in the weight room. Sometimes I think there is the talent in D3 but sometimes not the desire. USually because they have suffered in the trenches without exposure. Beats you down.

There are players they just need a shot....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 11, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
This person I'm talking about is a running back.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on February 11, 2010, 11:45:04 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on February 11, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
This person I'm talking about is a running back.

But why would Legister give up his last two years of eligibility?

:)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: RedDevil4Life on February 12, 2010, 07:34:18 AM
Below is a link to vote for Dickinson College Senior QB Ian Mitchell for his phenominal efforts off the field to raise money for children with cancer and other life threatening diseases. He is nominated along with several D1 football players for the "Rare Disease Champion Award". Please go to the website below and show your support by voting for Ian.

Carlisle Sentinel Story:

http://www.cumberlink.com/articles/2010/02/10/news/local/doc4b72c7198e960585816937.txt

Vote for Rare Disease Champion:

http://www.upliftingathletes.org/vote
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 16, 2010, 10:44:52 AM
I voted for him...  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on February 21, 2010, 07:53:16 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on February 11, 2010, 11:45:04 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on February 11, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
This person I'm talking about is a running back.

But why would Legister give up his last two years of eligibility?

:)

Too funny Ryan!!! :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 21, 2010, 08:28:46 PM
There are 2 guys from the USA SOUTH that are getting ready for the draft. I wonder how many other d3 players are entering  the draft?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 22, 2010, 12:12:02 PM
there has to be guys who will sign contracts as undrafted free agents. They are getting ready but for an offer, not a being a draft pick. One of my old Havelock players got a call about 15 minutes after the draft (3 years ago) and he signed onm the spot. Got cut and beatout by Fajita
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 22, 2010, 12:23:39 PM
One of the guys will be a 7th round pick, but after his proday he may move up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 23, 2010, 05:40:10 PM
We'll see. The average draft has less than one Division III football player selected. It would be foolish to presume that any D-III player is a definite draft pick. And the list of D-III running backs drafted in the past 14 years is exactly zero.

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2008/04/27/1469/waiting-by-the-phone.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 23, 2010, 09:53:25 PM
always time for a first.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 24, 2010, 01:06:41 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on February 11, 2010, 11:45:04 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on February 11, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
This person I'm talking about is a running back.

But why would Legister give up his last two years of eligibility?

:)

HAHAHAHA!!! Legister is bigger!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 24, 2010, 01:19:00 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA! :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 25, 2010, 02:39:51 PM
i'll be willing to make a bet...if tunde ogun is drafted this year (in any round), i'll sign each of my football posts with "ogun is a beast" for the duration of the football season...if he isn't, you need to sign each of your posts saying "Narch is the man" (and you need to post at least a dozen times)

do we have a deal?

my predicition...tunde is signed as a free agent and spends a couple of years on a practice squad before moving on...outstanding for any college football player at any level!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 25, 2010, 03:07:28 PM
OK. Thats cool.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 26, 2010, 01:44:46 PM
this should be fun....

just looked at the invite list for the National Invitational Camp (or NFL Combine) and noted that there were 29 RB's invited to participate...Ogun was not on that list...last year there were 22 RB's selected and 31 RB's invited to the NIC...those numbers don't bode well for the beast
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 26, 2010, 05:24:58 PM
I know, he wasn't ready anyway. You look at stuff on the outside and don't know anything else. Tell me something that I don't know. Were you at the East Coast Bowl where he ran over DIV 1 AA AND DIV 2 PLAYERS? Did you see the article in the Sporting News? Have you seen him lately? Tell you what, after his proday at a D1 school I'll let you know something then. Thanks for being concern my friend. Oh yeah, what you said is only more motivation for him. I thank You.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on February 26, 2010, 10:20:38 PM
I'm glad he ran over the D1-AA and D-2 players because he certainly didn't run over the D3 players on Maryville's defense just a few weeks before he played in the Bowl game.  He ran soft and tenative, fumbled the ball twice and got stuff on a 4&1.  Hopefully someone will pick him up after the draft if they believe he can return to the way he played in 2008.  NFL teams always need RB's during camp and he's got the size for someone to give him the opportunity.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 26, 2010, 10:34:47 PM
Take a look at their line last year and the line a year before. And he played the season on a bum knee. Give me facts that warrent your explanation. So you are telling me the line was no factor?  Give me a break.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 27, 2010, 04:01:48 AM
Is that the Sporting News article that said he lacked the quickness to burst through the holes and the speed to get to the corner?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 27, 2010, 07:32:26 AM
Yeah but what did the rest say. Say the whole article not just the negative part. Come on. I know your better than that. You quote everthing else. Oh yeah, bum knee. Played at 65 to 70% in that game and every game after Wesley.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 27, 2010, 09:30:42 PM
keeping it real...there is no question tunde ogun has a huge heart and playing hurt behind a less than stellar line hurt his production...he clearly was NOT at his best this season - 6'0", 218 lb rb's who run a 4.5 to 4.6 40 who played college ball at the d3 level simply don't typically find their way to an nfl team through the draft...i hope tunde does, but i just don't see it happening - if i can motivate him in any way, though, i'm glad to do so...just as pierre garcon is a great thing for d3 football, tunde ogun being drafted would be fantastic, as well
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 01, 2010, 02:11:01 PM
here is the "whole article (http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20091201?pg=10#pg10)"...i think pat summed it up pretty well
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 01, 2010, 03:33:53 PM
Average life cycle for NFL TB is less than 5 year or right about that. Just to get there at 6 feet 218 would be very hard. But signing a contract as undrafted versus drafted would be good to go. If he does not get the nod and does not get a undrafted free agent offer within 48 hours he will not get his shot. lets hope he does. I am sure everyone is pulling for him. Who cares how he gets in....

As a former OLB at Lees McRae back in the day of course I would want to know his head off.    ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 01, 2010, 03:34:16 PM
I meant KNOCK his head. LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on March 01, 2010, 06:05:56 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on March 08, 2010, 12:23:04 PM
Hello to all.  Seems like forever until season starts but spring practices/workouts are right around the corner.  I hope all is well with everyone and we can go into this upcoming season with a new perspective and attitude.  For me personally, last season was a learning experience and I know I will be looking at it from a new point of view.  The Monarchs have really vamped up their lifting program during the off season and there appears to be a new attitude on the team.  MU lost several key players to graduation but are returning numerous starters on each side of the ball along with some players that saw a lot of time.  Looking forward to "chattin it up" with the rest of the USA South fans. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on March 12, 2010, 08:40:40 AM
Hey there MU supporter...You are correct, I am ready for the season to start also. Just curious about your assessment of the Methodist returning players. I write a blog about Ferrum Football, and in one article rate each team based on their recruiting needs. Few needs would get the highest rating or an A (A,B,C,D,F) and the team with the largest recruiting needs got a lower score. I have the following posted about MU.

Methodist University

Methodist, after another disappointing season, will have 19 Seniors departing. Among those is Quarterback Erik Teague. The Monarchs will also lose 9 defensive players, 5 of which appeared in the majority of the Methodist games. The Monarchs O-Line will be hit hard by graduation, and this will likely be the main recruiting focus for the Monarch coaches.

Overall I rated them  D, and thought of the 8 teams, they ranked last with the most significant recruiting needs.

Not being argumentative, but just wondering if I am way off.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on March 13, 2010, 04:57:40 PM
I'm with you guys. Time to start talking a little football. Spring Practice is just around the corner.......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 13, 2010, 06:36:24 PM
Allen C,

what's your blog address? I wasn't aware.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on March 13, 2010, 10:34:43 PM
Good job on the blog Allen C.  Thought you did a very thorough job looking at recruiting needs for conference teams.  I agree we need to start talking up our teams during the spring.  Looking at other conferences posts, we've been asleep most of the winter and it's time to start waking up.

For my Fighting Scots, we lost Hightower who was the leading rusher in school history.  But we did not have a real strong running game this season due to a average offensive line.  The line got better at the end of the season when Coach I started playing more freshmen to get them experience for the '10 season.  We graduated 3 offensive linemen and our starting TE.  QB should be fine with Conner coming back for his senior season, but we have to do a better job protecting him and develop depth at that position.  We just lose 1 WR.  Idlette will be a junior and coming off a great sophomore season.

Losing Kyle Chewning is a big loss for our defense.  Kyle was a 3 time first-team All-Conference player, 2008 USA-South Def. POY, & HM All-American linebacker.  Lose 1 defensive end in Joel Byars and return all of our starters in our secondary.

We need others to jump in and give us an assesment of their team's recruiting needs.......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 16, 2010, 02:13:52 PM
looks like norfolk state has a pro day today, hampton and w&m have one on wednesday and richmond on thursday...i hope we get an update on tunde ogun's progress/numbers from one of these events

for anyone interested in following, jason la confora has a pretty good blog (http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/) which summarizes most of the pro days on nfl.com
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on March 16, 2010, 09:26:49 PM
WE SHALL SEE?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 17, 2010, 02:04:54 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on March 16, 2010, 09:26:49 PM
WE SHALL SEE?
KIR...any information on which pro day he'll be participating in?

here is another resource (http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Pro-Days-2010/2010-pro-day-schedule.html), for anyone interested...not sure how credible it is vs. the nfl.com information, though...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: musupporter on March 17, 2010, 08:44:26 PM
Allen C.  You are very accurate in your assesment.  MU lost 19 seniors and only list 8 seniors on their spring roster.  One senior from d=line and most of the o-line which was very good.(Better than the record).  A lot of underclassmen played last year.  I am curious to see how those players matured. 

I think the d-line will do well.  A good corp of recievers return.  RB is a toss up.  Linebackers need help from last year.  DB's were very young last year.  QB could be a surprise.

By the way.  How do you grad 18 and only have 8?  Where did that recruiting class go?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on March 18, 2010, 04:26:19 PM
Allen C., great blog. Ended up reading several of your articles. Not sure if WFU is hitting the boards these days but I'll give you what I got then I am sure he can fill in the blanks.

Squillini is gone this year and you never know how to measure how much your going to miss a guy like that but if there is a silver lining think we will get to see a whole lot more of Dixon this year on the offense. Last year made most of his noise on special teams. Also have Williams back at WR, he was last years offensive ROY. Have a transfer in at WR that while I havn't had the chance to see him he is described as 6-2 and fast as @%$@!  LOL, least thats how my son puts it.  Anxious to see for myself. Several underclassman back and also getting back Chiaronlanzio a jr. ( hurt all last year). he's listed as a TE but here he runs like a WR. Another tall guy and should be able to give some LB's fits. I dont think the Qb's will have to much trouble finding someone to throw too.

Watson was the power guy, not sure who might step up and fill that void. O line lost one tackle but think there are several guys that can step up and take over. Expecting the O line to hit another level this year,  anchored  by Roberts and Blaising both sr's. Younger guys have gotten a year under thier belt and I know they have been working hard, it shows so I think we'll see some real good things there.

Defensively the entire secoundary is back, thats a good thing considering the ball hawks they were last year. The D line is back and I hear they have bulked up. Also getting another kid back form being injured last year, cant remember his name but plays Dline, 6-3 300. Dont know a thing about him but here he moves like a much smaller guy so if thats the case with his size and speed  he should really help out on D. Losing Huffman and Cooper at the LB spots will be tough, just have to wait and see who can fill the void.

Over all I hear the recruiting weekends have been very busy, lots of kids coming in and I know the school has said this will be the largest freshman class in sometime. If AU can fill a few holes think they have a great chance of doing just as well this year and possibly better. Pretty young team last year. Anxious to see what the year of experience does for them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 19, 2010, 01:12:26 PM
Herr Hasa
How much longer at GC-Q before you see what O they got...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 19, 2010, 01:12:52 PM
sorry wrong place...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on March 20, 2010, 08:18:51 AM
Tunde Ogun did his pro day at JMU.

6'0.1  218 pounds
Bench press 22 times
Vertical 30'
Broad Jump 9'1"
20 yd shuttle 4.24
3 cone 6.92
60 yd shuttle 11.50
40 yd  4.52
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on March 25, 2010, 03:33:08 PM
Go to you tube and see East Coast Bowl shots of Tunde Ogun. Just type in Tunde Ogun.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on March 25, 2010, 04:43:39 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on March 25, 2010, 03:33:08 PM
Go to you tube and see East Coast Bowl shots of Tunde Ogun. Just type in Tunde Ogun.

Tunde did a really nice job getting a lot of yards after contact. Showed some good muscle!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on March 25, 2010, 04:58:31 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on March 28, 2010, 07:28:02 PM
Three small-schoolers help cause at Pro Day
Posted on: March 27, 2010 11:53 amScore: 152Log-in to rate:Log-in to rate: Log-in to rate: Sometimes the small school prospects can get a bit lost in the shuffle of a busy Pro Day week. These are three players from relatively small schools, however, that are creating some buzz with scouts.

William and Mary pass rusher Adrian Tracy was the big name on campus -- so much so that I highlighted him back in November in our PDF Draft Slant -- but it was his former teammate, defensive tackle Sean Lissemore who impressed scouts at their recent Pro Day. The 6-3, 297 pounder was twice timed in the low 4.8s in the 40-yard dash, 4.27 in the short shuttle and a 7.57 in the 3-cone drill. He also showed good explosiveness with a 30" vertical jump, 9'3" broad jump and lifting the bar 26 times. Lissemore is hardly a workout warrior. He earned first team all-conference honors with 66 tackles, 14 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks and two interceptions as a senior. He also stood out at the Texas vs. Nation practices. Lissemore has already gained the interest of several clubs, having set up private visits with the Arizona, Atlanta, Jacksonville, both  New York clubs, and Seattle.

Western Illinois cornerback Patrick Stoudamire, Jr. took advantage of another opportunity to work out for scouts at the Northern Illinois Pro Day Friday. Stoudamire, who earned first-team all Gateway conference honors each of the past three seasons and never gave up a touchdown reception, had previously helped his cause with a solid performance at the East-West Shrine game. He was among the highest rated prospects by NFLDraftScout.com who was not invited to the Combine. Friday, however, the 5-10, 207 pounder showed the speed (4.43), explosiveness (31.5" vertical) and fluidity in positional drills to warrant a late round selection. He's already scheduled several visits with clubs. The Cardinals, Bears, Colts and Saints seemed to be the most interested during his NIU workout.

Every year there is a D-III prospect that earns a late round selection or makes a club as an undrafted free agent. This year that prospect may be Christopher Newport running back Tunde Ogun .

Ogun burst onto the scene as a junior with 1,794 yards and 16 touchdowns, earning All-American honors. A partially torn meniscus suffered in the season-opener, however, limited Ogun to only 959 yards and 10 scores (in 10 games).

No one can say Ogun isn't dedicated to showing scouts what he can do. Not only did he play through the injury all season long, over the past month, he's traveled to three different Pro Day workouts. His best performance came Wednesday. Ogun, 6-0, 219 pounds was timed at 4.52 in the 40-yard dash, 4.24 in the short shuttle, 11.50 in the long shuttle and 6.92 in the 3-cone. He also posted a 30" vertical, 9'1" broad jump and lifted the bar 22 times. This is from NFL Draft Scout.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on March 28, 2010, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 13, 2010, 06:36:24 PM
Allen C,

what's your blog address? I wasn't aware.

Hey there- Sorry I have so slow responding to you. My blog address is
www.ferrumfootball.blogspot.com

Or you can google the Ferrum College Football Report.

Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on April 03, 2010, 10:08:52 AM
AUPOP - you've got a good assessment of Averett's spring so far.  With Dixon (2nd Team All-American - returner) and Williams as the wideouts they should be pretty explosive.  TE's are more athletic enabling them to be a greater option in the offense next year.  Overall, the passing game should be strong with the 2nd Team All-Conference QB returning and experienced back-ups. 

The running game is an area which they have to improve upon.  The O-line should be better with a number of returnees but is a critical area for that needs to improve.  Last year, due to size and strength, the O-line often didn't have the ability to blow the D-line off the ball to pick up key first downs in obvious running situations.  The new line coach is making a difference. 

There are also question marks are in the backfield.  FB is a key void to fill and they are thin at running back.  May be looking at incoming freshmen to add depth, but if there is a position you can get away with playing freshman, its running back. 

On defense - the key will be how the linebackers develop.  Lost some key experience there.  Secondary and D-line should continue to be strengths.  With NCWU's QB graduating, there is no returning QB that Averett will face in conference that has put up big passing numbers previously (that doesn't mean one won't emerge) however, it may enable their defensive scheme to have the DB's to be more aggressive on run support to assist the LB's. 

A potentially key area of improvement is the kicking game.  Last year FG's and extra points were somewhat of an adventure at times.  The kicker from Guilford College transferred in and is participating in spring practice raising the level of competition for all the kickers.

Averett should be able to compete again for the USA South conference title but only if they play with the same energy that they did last year.  Even though they were 5 - 2 in conference, they won a number of close games and just as easily could have been 2 - 5.  If they play hard in every game this season, they can be successful again but they're not the type of team that can "just show up" and get a win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 07, 2010, 06:42:23 PM
Now that I just filed my taxes (ugh)....a quick view as I see it concerning CNU. True, we only lost 9 seniors, but they were impact players. Ogun, Spradlin, Kirland, Wagner, Schindler, and a couple of TE's. To me, one of the biggest losses will be FB Preli. Nobody could block like that guy at 5'9" 250 lbs.

The biggest question for CNU will be at QB. Who will start? Woefel-Montsavais showed some real talent as a lefty and could really zip the ball. But he was a freshman last year and got rattled a few times. Also, not sure 100% about Matt Long's situation. Actually, I do know what's going on, but I'll let his brother say something if he wants to. I'm not.

Top returners for CNU - Offense - Corey Legister. He's bigger than Ogun and more punishing. Of course he may have seemed that way to me after OGun pounded people for 3 quarters and then Legister would come in and face a worn out D. Ogun is faster, but I'm comfortable with Legister. Arvai at WR was coming along during the year and Kenneth Hall was all-conference on the O line. The questions are - QB, who replaces Preli, and how does the O-line come together and perform better than 2009?

Defense - CNU has numbers and several players were starting to make it happen. The loss of Kirland in the backfield and Wagner on the line will hurt. Wever (all conf) has to be the leader in the secondary and Diggs (all-conf) will bring it at the LB spot. Vaughn also played well at LB and Chris Nickle was getting more comfortable as well. I think the LBs will be ok. Mike King played well at LB, too.

DL - Krupp was all-conference and should have a good season. I really don't know about the rest of the line. Kelchner is so good at platooning people, you never really know about some of the non starting Fr and So. DB position has numbers.....lots of them. But they made mistakes last year. In the mix should be guys like, Meekins, Kelly, Bronde-Tinkew.

Overall - QB, FB, O-line, D-line and DB.....to me those are the areas I'm not sure how it will be put together. I know Kelchner will put a competitive team on the field. I expect a better record this year.....but that schedule....man.......open the season home against Wesley. Then away at Salisbury and Frostburg and then still away for conference opener at Shenandoah. Ouch.

That's my take- as weak as it is....truth is, you never know until camp opens and you see who shows up. Kelchner always comes up with a surprise out of nowhere....let's see what this year brings.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on April 07, 2010, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on April 03, 2010, 10:08:52 AM
AUPOP - you've got a good assessment of Averett's spring so far.   

The running game is an area which they have to improve upon.  The O-line should be better with a number of returnees but is a critical area for that needs to improve.  Last year, due to size and strength, the O-line often didn't have the ability to blow the D-line off the ball to pick up key first downs in obvious running situations.  The new line coach is making a difference. 




Agreed, if they can put together a decent running game the offense could be something special. I think the line has gotten over the loss of Stanley and has pretty much embraced the new O-line coach's philosophy. They seem to have that " something to prove attitude". It will be interesting to see  it come together.   Is it August yet? LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on April 07, 2010, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on April 07, 2010, 06:42:23 PM


Top returners for CNU - Offense - Corey Legister.

CNU85, Corey's the real deal. Kid ruined many a Friday Night for this family. Was so glad when he graduated...now I get to go through it all over again...LOL  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on April 08, 2010, 05:07:13 AM
I give them 3-7 with all the transfers out of the program and they can't play because of grades.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on April 08, 2010, 03:41:25 PM
Here is a link to NFL Draft Scout. It has all the running backs in the draft including no. 55 rank Tunde Ogun.

  http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=89144&draftyear=2010&genpos=RB
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 08, 2010, 10:32:27 PM
considering that there are typically 30 or fewer rb's drafted in any given year, being the 55th best rb prospect (and 999th overall prospect) doesn't bode well for a draft hopeful
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on April 08, 2010, 11:01:14 PM
I see you are still green. :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 08, 2010, 11:09:00 PM
Quote from: narch on April 08, 2010, 10:32:27 PM
considering that there are typically 30 or fewer rb's drafted in any given year, being the 55th best rb prospect (and 999th overall prospect) doesn't bode well for a draft hopeful

Actually, since we used to work with NFL Draft Scout on a regular basis at USA Today, I can tell you that being ranked "999" is a filler code for them. That's because they only have three digits for that field. If you look at a full list you'll see a bunch of players ranked 999.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on April 08, 2010, 11:15:47 PM
The numbers are in the top ten in most of the workouts. That is what going to help him. Believe you and me. There is intrest.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on April 09, 2010, 08:22:53 AM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on April 08, 2010, 05:07:13 AM
I give them 3-7 with all the transfers out of the program and the can't play because of grades.

You must of taken the same spelling/english course as the transfers.  CNU will be much better than a 3-7 record, but it greatly depends on the success of their QB.  They have been average at that position for the past few seasons....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on April 09, 2010, 08:51:42 AM
Is that the best you can come up with. CLOWN!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 09, 2010, 11:34:59 AM
999!.....ahhhh.....I would have taken that in 1976; instead of seeing the peep hole get dark, then light, and no one answered the door. ;)

Good luck to them....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 09, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on April 08, 2010, 11:01:14 PM
I see you are still green. :D
always will be...but it's not with envy

i'm simply keeping it real...tunde ogun's workout numbers would have to be through the roof (and they aren't) to overcome the production, competition level and injury issues which will keep him from hearing his name called in the nfl draft - i won't be surprised at all if he is signed as an ufa, though
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on April 09, 2010, 11:03:33 PM
Numbers are in the top 10 to 15. 4.47 40, 22 bench, 4.24 shuttle, 11.5 shuttle. Aren't impressive. That's not what I heard. What have you heard? And to get a SERIOUS LOOK out of Div 3 as a running back. Not a quaterback or a reciever but a running back. From my knowledge there hasn't been that many running backs out of Div 3 to make it. Fred Jackson out of Coe and Chris Warren out of Ferrum. Thats all I know, if you can give more please do so I can add them to my list of running backs. Drafted or PFA OR CFL, it doesn't matter. I would like for him to be drafted because that will be the icing on the cake. Don't forget to give me those running backs out of Div 3, even the ones that broke records. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 09, 2010, 11:54:17 PM
R.J. Bowers of Grove City
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on April 10, 2010, 06:48:20 AM
Thanks Pat.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 10, 2010, 11:16:42 PM
KIR...the d3 rb's i know of who have played in the nfl have all been listed...and to my knowledge NONE were drafted

and try not to put words in my mouth...i never said his numbers weren't impressive...reading is fundamental :)

this whole debate is about being whether or not tunde ogun will be DRAFTED...again, i hope i'm wrong...it would be great for the entire conference if he was drafted, but i don't look at this situation through the eyes of a family member/cnu fan and i'm simply not convinced that nfl scouts will see him as one of the top 30-35 rb's in the draft when they are drafting
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 13, 2010, 05:04:30 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on April 03, 2010, 10:08:52 AM
AUPOP - you've got a good assessment of Averett's spring so far.  With Dixon (2nd Team All-American - returner) and Williams as the wideouts they should be pretty explosive.  TE's are more athletic enabling them to be a greater option in the offense next year.  Overall, the passing game should be strong with the 2nd Team All-Conference QB returning and experienced back-ups. 

The running game is an area which they have to improve upon.  The O-line should be better with a number of returnees but is a critical area for that needs to improve.  Last year, due to size and strength, the O-line often didn't have the ability to blow the D-line off the ball to pick up key first downs in obvious running situations.  The new line coach is making a difference. 

There are also question marks are in the backfield.  FB is a key void to fill and they are thin at running back.  May be looking at incoming freshmen to add depth, but if there is a position you can get away with playing freshman, its running back. 

On defense - the key will be how the linebackers develop.  Lost some key experience there.  Secondary and D-line should continue to be strengths.  With NCWU's QB graduating, there is no returning QB that Averett will face in conference that has put up big passing numbers previously (that doesn't mean one won't emerge) however, it may enable their defensive scheme to have the DB's to be more aggressive on run support to assist the LB's. 

A potentially key area of improvement is the kicking game.  Last year FG's and extra points were somewhat of an adventure at times.  The kicker from Guilford College transferred in and is participating in spring practice raising the level of competition for all the kickers.

Averett should be able to compete again for the USA South conference title but only if they play with the same energy that they did last year.  Even though they were 5 - 2 in conference, they won a number of close games and just as easily could have been 2 - 5.  If they play hard in every game this season, they can be successful again but they're not the type of team that can "just show up" and get a win.

AUPOP - what does the special teams look like this year.  I was concerned about the kicking but see they got a transfer coming in. Have you seen him kick. Is he doing it all or just extra points and Field goals?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on April 14, 2010, 03:11:12 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 13, 2010, 05:04:30 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on April 03, 2010, 10:08:52 AM
AUPOP - you've got a good assessment of Averett's spring so far.  With Dixon (2nd Team All-American - returner) and Williams as the wideouts they should be pretty explosive.  TE's are more athletic enabling them to be a greater option in the offense next year.  Overall, the passing game should be strong with the 2nd Team All-Conference QB returning and experienced back-ups. 

The running game is an area which they have to improve upon.  The O-line should be better with a number of returnees but is a critical area for that needs to improve.  Last year, due to size and strength, the O-line often didn't have the ability to blow the D-line off the ball to pick up key first downs in obvious running situations.  The new line coach is making a difference. 

There are also question marks are in the backfield.  FB is a key void to fill and they are thin at running back.  May be looking at incoming freshmen to add depth, but if there is a position you can get away with playing freshman, its running back. 

On defense - the key will be how the linebackers develop.  Lost some key experience there.  Secondary and D-line should continue to be strengths.  With NCWU's QB graduating, there is no returning QB that Averett will face in conference that has put up big passing numbers previously (that doesn't mean one won't emerge) however, it may enable their defensive scheme to have the DB's to be more aggressive on run support to assist the LB's. 

A potentially key area of improvement is the kicking game.  Last year FG's and extra points were somewhat of an adventure at times.  The kicker from Guilford College transferred in and is participating in spring practice raising the level of competition for all the kickers.

Averett should be able to compete again for the USA South conference title but only if they play with the same energy that they did last year.  Even though they were 5 - 2 in conference, they won a number of close games and just as easily could have been 2 - 5.  If they play hard in every game this season, they can be successful again but they're not the type of team that can "just show up" and get a win.

AUPOP - what does the special teams look like this year.  I was concerned about the kicking but see they got a transfer coming in. Have you seen him kick. Is he doing it all or just extra points and Field goals?


No I haven't. Only got a chance to see a couple practices before the wife threatened to take my truck keys if I was going to Danville every 3 or 4 days. Plus I tend to have tunnel vision when I am watching, focus on what the o line is doing. I hear though he is raising the bar in the PK department. Not sure if he is PK and Punting or not, maybe WFU34 knows, got the impression he has been able to see him kick.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on April 16, 2010, 09:27:13 AM
A new man has been picked (http://www.mumonarchs.com/news/2010/4/16/FB_0416101554.aspx?elinkdata=37311) to take the reins of Methodist after this coming season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 16, 2010, 10:09:56 AM
Coach Eavenson is a good man.

He is much younger than Coach S and might bring a little more energy. No hit on Coach S but sometimes a little more pep in the tank helps. By keeping Eavenson on board it does show some faith in their system.

I think Coach E has put his heart and soul in the program and deserves a shot....

Coach S is a good man too

Or they bring in a drunk Sailor like Adm Papi... :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on April 16, 2010, 02:59:55 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on April 14, 2010, 03:11:12 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 13, 2010, 05:04:30 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on April 03, 2010, 10:08:52 AM
AUPOP - you've got a good assessment of Averett's spring so far.  With Dixon (2nd Team All-American - returner) and Williams as the wideouts they should be pretty explosive.  TE's are more athletic enabling them to be a greater option in the offense next year.  Overall, the passing game should be strong with the 2nd Team All-Conference QB returning and experienced back-ups. 

The running game is an area which they have to improve upon.  The O-line should be better with a number of returnees but is a critical area for that needs to improve.  Last year, due to size and strength, the O-line often didn't have the ability to blow the D-line off the ball to pick up key first downs in obvious running situations.  The new line coach is making a difference. 

There are also question marks are in the backfield.  FB is a key void to fill and they are thin at running back.  May be looking at incoming freshmen to add depth, but if there is a position you can get away with playing freshman, its running back. 

On defense - the key will be how the linebackers develop.  Lost some key experience there.  Secondary and D-line should continue to be strengths.  With NCWU's QB graduating, there is no returning QB that Averett will face in conference that has put up big passing numbers previously (that doesn't mean one won't emerge) however, it may enable their defensive scheme to have the DB's to be more aggressive on run support to assist the LB's. 

A potentially key area of improvement is the kicking game.  Last year FG's and extra points were somewhat of an adventure at times.  The kicker from Guilford College transferred in and is participating in spring practice raising the level of competition for all the kickers.

Averett should be able to compete again for the USA South conference title but only if they play with the same energy that they did last year.  Even though they were 5 - 2 in conference, they won a number of close games and just as easily could have been 2 - 5.  If they play hard in every game this season, they can be successful again but they're not the type of team that can "just show up" and get a win.

AUPOP - what does the special teams look like this year.  I was concerned about the kicking but see they got a transfer coming in. Have you seen him kick. Is he doing it all or just extra points and Field goals?


No I haven't. Only got a chance to see a couple practices before the wife threatened to take my truck keys if I was going to Danville every 3 or 4 days. Plus I tend to have tunnel vision when I am watching, focus on what the o line is doing. I hear though he is raising the bar in the PK department. Not sure if he is PK and Punting or not, maybe WFU34 knows, got the impression he has been able to see him kick.

You might also post your question on the ODAC board. Apparently he is a transfer from Guilford and you could get some info from Hasanova or one of the other GC followers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on April 20, 2010, 11:31:12 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on April 16, 2010, 09:27:13 AM
A new man has been picked (http://www.mumonarchs.com/news/2010/4/16/FB_0416101554.aspx?elinkdata=37311) to take the reins of Methodist after this coming season.

Congrats to a great career for Coach S.  Good luck in '10 and hope you are 9-1 during your final season at Methodist.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 22, 2010, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on April 20, 2010, 11:31:12 PMCongrats to a great career for Coach S.  Good luck in '10 and hope you are 9-1 during your final season at Methodist.
i think everyone at mu would gladly take 9-1, even if it did involve losing to the scots :)

coach sypult had a really good run and made mu football relevant at a time that it was a joke...lots of ups and downs, record wise, but the man has always been passionate about mu, mu football and his players - he'll be missed (especially at media day...nobody in the conference is as candid or witty as coach sy)

i think coach eavenson will do great things for the program...first-class person, great recruiter and a good football mind...looking forward seeing him take the reins after this season
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 23, 2010, 12:27:42 PM
AUPOP,

So what's the final opinion from what you saw a spring practice. We going to be able to content this coming season. I heard there were a couple of assistant coach changes....anything on that. I spoke with Shaw 2 months ago but nothing was mentioned.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on April 23, 2010, 01:56:52 PM
Time keeps on slippin. Into the future.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 23, 2010, 06:41:10 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on April 23, 2010, 01:56:52 PM
Time keeps on slippin. Into the future.
believe it or not, i'll be watching the espn scroll over the weekend hoping to see: Tunde Ogun, RB, Christopher Newport

i'm sure this is an exciting and nerve-wracking time for tunde and his family...good luck
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 24, 2010, 05:33:42 PM
i hope tunde ogun finds a home as a ufa...i think someone will give the kid a shot
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 24, 2010, 05:57:35 PM
Quote from: narch on April 24, 2010, 05:33:42 PM
i hope tunde ogun finds a home as a ufa...i think someone will give the kid a shot

Thanks Narch. let's see what happens. btw....all these nice things about CNU players.....are you running a fever or something??   :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on April 25, 2010, 10:37:58 AM
AUPOP & KicerDad,

Saw the final spring practice yesterday, couple of quick observations:

1.  Running back a question - only 4, with 3 being fullbacks.  McCall (soph) is the only tailback with any significant carries last year (and he was the third RB).  This could be a major problem unless there is significant help from incoming freshmen.

2.  TE - should be a key part of the offense this year (really wasn't last year), much improved.  Bodney-Jeter is an athlete.

3.  Wide-outs - need depth but Dixon has gotten bigger.  But can't be the total focus of the passing game or they'll get shutdown.  Again, TE should help.

4.  OL - Improving, but still its in shorts.  Big difference when you put on the pads.  New OL line coach seems to have them moving in the right direction.  Hopefully, if they improve as expected, there are enough RB's to capitalize.

5.  QB - Should be fine there. 2nd team All-Conference QB returning but may have to care more of the load (last year, running/passing games were pretty balanced) due to concerns with depth at running back.  Also has an experienced senior back-up.

6.  DL - Should be a solid area next year.

7.  LB's - Fast but small, lost a lot of experience from last year.  Solid play key for success in 2010.

8.  DB's - Experienced and Fast.  - McCauley and Robinson both extremely fast and good hitters.  Robinson is team's fastest player - 4.4 in the 40.

9.  Specialty Teams- Return Game should be strong with Dixon being the featured return man (2nd team All-American, D-III in 2009, even though he returned only about 1/3 of kicks/punts for Averett last year).  FG/PAT's - seemed to have gained distance but accuracy appeared to still be a challenge.  KO's seemed again short - need some improvement there.  Can't let opponets start at the 35+ yard line every time and be successful next year.  Punting - should be ok there.

10.  Recruits - They had 25+ recruits there.  Did not appear to be much size.  Mostly the kids from VA & NC.  Averett usually does alot of recruiting in Florida so it wouldn't make much sense for any of them to travel up for yesterday's event.  Hopefully there is some running back depth in the incoming class.

Overall - Last year won a number of close games to go 7 -3 that could have gone the other way.  Probably the same situation going into this year.  They will have to be ready for every game, if not, the close games Averett won last year they could lose in 2010.  That being said, they should be competitive and I would think challenge again for the title.  But they are going to have to play smart football.  I don't see them as a team that has alot of margin for error.  Particularly with their schedule, i.e., travel.  They have a number of the longer trips this year to the traditionally upper tier conference schools, i.e., CNU, NCWU.  But with a little luck - they could do it.  We'll find out in September.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on April 28, 2010, 04:35:31 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on April 25, 2010, 10:37:58 AM
AUPOP & KicerDad,

Saw the final spring practice yesterday, couple of quick observations:

1.  Running back a question - only 4, with 3 being fullbacks.  McCall (soph) is the only tailback with any significant carries last year (and he was the third RB).  This could be a major problem unless there is significant help from incoming freshmen.

2.  TE - should be a key part of the offense this year (really wasn't last year), much improved.  Bodney-Jeter is an athlete.

3.  Wide-outs - need depth but Dixon has gotten bigger.  But can't be the total focus of the passing game or they'll get shutdown.  Again, TE should help.

4.  OL - Improving, but still its in shorts.  Big difference when you put on the pads.  New OL line coach seems to have them moving in the right direction.  Hopefully, if they improve as expected, there are enough RB's to capitalize.

5.  QB - Should be fine there. 2nd team All-Conference QB returning but may have to care more of the load (last year, running/passing games were pretty balanced) due to concerns with depth at running back.  Also has an experienced senior back-up.

6.  DL - Should be a solid area next year.

7.  LB's - Fast but small, lost a lot of experience from last year.  Solid play key for success in 2010.

8.  DB's - Experienced and Fast.  - McCauley and Robinson both extremely fast and good hitters.  Robinson is team's fastest player - 4.4 in the 40.

9.  Specialty Teams- Return Game should be strong with Dixon being the featured return man (2nd team All-American, D-III in 2009, even though he returned only about 1/3 of kicks/punts for Averett last year).  FG/PAT's - seemed to have gained distance but accuracy appeared to still be a challenge.  KO's seemed again short - need some improvement there.  Can't let opponets start at the 35+ yard line every time and be successful next year.  Punting - should be ok there.

10.  Recruits - They had 25+ recruits there.  Did not appear to be much size.  Mostly the kids from VA & NC.  Averett usually does alot of recruiting in Florida so it wouldn't make much sense for any of them to travel up for yesterday's event.  Hopefully there is some running back depth in the incoming class.

Overall - Last year won a number of close games to go 7 -3 that could have gone the other way.  Probably the same situation going into this year.  They will have to be ready for every game, if not, the close games Averett won last year they could lose in 2010.  That being said, they should be competitive and I would think challenge again for the title.  But they are going to have to play smart football.  I don't see them as a team that has alot of margin for error.  Particularly with their schedule, i.e., travel.  They have a number of the longer trips this year to the traditionally upper tier conference schools, i.e., CNU, NCWU.  But with a little luck - they could do it.  We'll find out in September.


WFU, I caught it as well. Should have looked you up. Think you summed it up pretty well. As usual was pre occupied with the oline so didnt see alot of the other things going on. Dixon is a beast, no other way to describe him. Agree with Bodney-Jeter. Moves more like a WR than a TE. Is C Williams still with team? Listed on spring roster but didnt actually see him.

Like what Coach Newell has done with the oline, very detailed kind of coach and the guys seem to be listning. They look a lot leaner and faster than last year. Only question may be depth. From what I saw think we are pretty solid 7 maybe 8 deep but after that it falls off. Got some guys with nagging type injuries so thats not real deep. Doesnt look like we have any oline recruits this year. Had two uncommitted guys there Sat. but in talking with there folks got the impression they will probably go elsewhere. Little light at the tackle positions but projected starters are pretty athletic so hopefully that will offset the few pounds they will be giving up. Look pretty strong guard to guard and was impressed with the way they moved. Hopefully we can pick up a couple big guys out of the Florida group, hear its fairly good in numbers. Be nice to have a few more 285 pounders available not to mention if no oline recruits this year will be hurting next year. Only have 6, maybe 7 guys back and that would make it pretty tough.

Time to empty the garage and pull out the squat rack, bench press etc. etc. Guess the wifes "honeydo list' is going to have to wait about 3 months before getting done....lol... garage has officially hit gym mode.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on April 29, 2010, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: narch on April 22, 2010, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on April 20, 2010, 11:31:12 PMCongrats to a great career for Coach S.  Good luck in '10 and hope you are 9-1 during your final season at Methodist.
i think everyone at mu would gladly take 9-1, even if it did involve losing to the scots :)

coach sypult had a really good run and made mu football relevant at a time that it was a joke...lots of ups and downs, record wise, but the man has always been passionate about mu, mu football and his players - he'll be missed (especially at media day...nobody in the conference is as candid or witty as coach sy)

i think coach eavenson will do great things for the program...first-class person, great recruiter and a good football mind...looking forward seeing him take the reins after this season

Coach Sypult was a great coach to play for, he had a way of pulling the best from his players. Coach Eavenson will be an outstanding head coach, I have never been around a more hard working man than him.

Ready Ready Monarchs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 29, 2010, 11:20:09 AM
WFU34 & AUPOP,

Thanks for the insite. Key as one of you mentioned is those hot, boring summer workouts. The one thing that almost every player noticed 3 years ago when Mt. Union came to town was the size, strength and speed of every player on that team. Even the kicker looked like he could go against the best of them toe to toe. And discipline......Those players knew who was in charge and calling the shots and when he (the head coach) spoke you could see those players react instantly. The strength and speed is going to come from those hot summer days when no one is around to watch and supervise and you need to be running, lifting, running and lifting and not laying on the couch and eating Wendy burgers and fries and watching TV. You will be able to weed the out the first 3 days of practice when Dunlevy has them running the 40's and 110"s. Count the ones in the bushes talking to "ralph" and the ones standing on the line waiting for their next run.

I did ask Hasonava over on the ODAC Board about the kicker transferring from Guilford to Averett. He doesn't know about him first hand but thinks he is a sophmore and has fairly good leg strenght. As one of you mentioned earlier accuracy is the key.

Hope to get to meet the two of you this year. We plan on going to homecoming and the CNU game (thats in our back yard) and maybe we will get to the HS game. I don't miss those summer workouts as I have shagged more footballs than I care to count but I miss the traveling and tailgating and meeting nice folks on both sides of the field. D3 football is an experience I wish everyone could experience . The people are great, the players are great and the games are exciting.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on April 29, 2010, 02:07:29 PM
AUPOP & Kickerdad - the question about Chris Williams, he's gone.  They think he's going to FAMU.  So along with running back, wideout is another concern.  May see some position changes in the fall to add depth. (They do have a 30+ year old who participated in the spring - got to give him credit for being out there)

At the Senior-Coaches meeting earlier this week, the expectations are high for next year.  There's 15+ seniors and nearly all should contributing next fall.   Coaches believe line play (both sides) is going to be the key.  They believe they have as good an opportunity to get the ring as any year.  Hope its true.  Blaising's (Sr. OL starter) injury (bulging disc in his neck) is one to watch.  He particpated in most drills but held out of some others (particularly the sandbags up the hill).  You never know how those things heal and how they react once contact starts.

The new kicker in spring is from Guilford.  Has a good leg, but lacked accuracy Saturday.  Some players worry about the potential "high maintance".  We'll see. 

Opener should be tough against H-S, but even if they come up short in that game, I don't believe it will be a true indication of what they'll be like when they enter conference play.  I think they go 8 - 2 and win/tie for the conference @ 6 - 1.  They have 3 long road trips this year, but that's why they play the game.   Only wish they had a nicer venue for home games.  The local high school, George Washington has a much larger, nicer stadium than the "Cougar's Den".

Kickerdad - did I see you said you were going to HC & CNU?  Last time I looked they have 10 games scheduled.  What happened to the other 8?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 29, 2010, 03:00:28 PM
WFU34

Wish I could find the time for all 10. Believe it or not I am still trying to catch up on "Honey Do" stuff from the 4 years we did make every game (home and away). Plus this year our oldest son is getting married and that's added more things to the list. We are going to try to make it to the HS game as well.

"High Maintenance"........that's interesting......if players are already thinking that and camp is 3 months away, then there may be some attitude issues in the package that could cause problems.

I hope Phil stays healthy, he deserves one full season of glory. They had high hopes for him and then the injuries set in.

I totally agree with you on the "Cougar Den". That has been a topic of conversation for at least the past 5 years and I am sure longer. You go to places like CNU, Shenendoah, Guilford, Methodist (even though you have to sit on the home side) and Ferrum and see how nice their facilities are and then you come to Danville. The visiting team has to walk a country mile just to get from the locker room to the field. Hopefully one day someone will give them a ton of money to get it right. Then they will have to find someone to keep it right.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on April 30, 2010, 06:18:18 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on April 29, 2010, 03:00:28 PM
WFU34

Wish I could find the time for all 10. Believe it or not I am still trying to catch up on "Honey Do" stuff from the 4 years we did make every game (home and away). Plus this year our oldest son is getting married and that's added more things to the list. We are going to try to make it to the HS game as well.

"High Maintenance"........that's interesting......if players are already thinking that and camp is 3 months away, then there may be some attitude issues in the package that could cause problems.

I hope Phil stays healthy, he deserves one full season of glory. They had high hopes for him and then the injuries set in.

I totally agree with you on the "Cougar Den". That has been a topic of conversation for at least the past 5 years and I am sure longer. You go to places like CNU, Shenendoah, Guilford, Methodist (even though you have to sit on the home side) and Ferrum and see how nice their facilities are and then you come to Danville. The visiting team has to walk a country mile just to get from the locker room to the field. Hopefully one day someone will give them a ton of money to get it right. Then they will have to find someone to keep it right.

Not to beat a dead horse but in talking with a couple parents of non committed kids on Saturday the facilities were a part of them looking elsewhere. My wife was talking to one o line mother during drills and she made the comment,  " For $30,000.00 a year you would think would have a better stadium than this.

A freshman player as part of a writing assignment did a paper on why so few students attended games. Main reason given was the facilities. Lack of restrooms was by far the #1 reason. Don't know how clearer a message you can get than that. Don't know if it got any farther than the Professor who assigned it but guess we will see.

WFU, sorry to hear about CW. Guess that explains why I didn't see him. Tough kid to replace. I'm like you guys, hope Blaze has a good year. He pretty much mentored my son last year so think a lot of him. He is due a good year and hopefully a ring as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on May 06, 2010, 10:15:35 PM
i keep scouring the nfl free agent signings for tunde ogun...i'm surprised, to be honest...i thought he would at least get a shot as an unsigned free agent
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on May 08, 2010, 09:20:25 AM
Why would any one be surprised by Tunge Ogun not being signed?  It would have been a pleasant surprise and good for the conference & DIII football if he had.

The reality is that while he was a dominant back in USA South it's important to remember that he was playing DIII football and to compound that, he played in the USA South, which is ranked in the lower half of DIII conferences, i.e., the conference record against the more powerful teams in DIII.

Don't get me wrong, the kids playing DIII (and USA South) give just as much effort and love the game as much or even more than those at D-I, but to NFL scouts, there is just too much comparable talent out there that has play against tougher competition.  In addition, the injury he suffered this past year didn't help his situation.

For the most part, we all only see or have the opportunity to evaluate the players that our teams play, the NFL sees them all.  For example, NFL scouts were at Averett this spring and I'm sure they were at other USA schools.  They basically look at everyone who is eligible (and can breathe) in an effort not to miss a diamond in the rough.  One has to remember that only a very small fraction of all college players get drafted or signed as free agents and even a small percentage make it.  If they do make it, their "life span" is usually only 3 years in the pros.

If a kid makes it from DIII, it's because he had D-I talent and probably not there because of some issue, i.e., grades, behavior, totally "under the radar" in high school (which rarely happens anymore because of all of the high school combines, scout services, etcs). 

Ogun had an outstanding career, hopefully he's got his degree and he does well in whatever "pro" career path he chooses.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on May 09, 2010, 09:50:30 PM
I'm with narch here. (just got that weird, ghostly chill down my spine for saying that)  ;)

I was expecting to see Ogun get signed to the big leagues as a FA. After an injury-plagued year, I wasn't holding my breath for him to get drafted, but he's been on some scouts' radars long enough that I thought they would give him a chance to show his stuff this summer.

Of course, I follow a lot more teams than just what's in the USAC, and when healthy, Ogun could tear the field up with the best of them. Maybe he'll get a CFL shot or something.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on May 10, 2010, 11:04:09 AM
Ryan - it would have been nice if Ogun got signed however, there's a reason we all opine on a message board and do something else for a living while others do the scouting. 

When you think about it, there are over well 500 universities and colleges playing NCAA football (not including those playing NAIA).  There is alot of talent in those upper divisions, particularly D-I & IAA (even if they aren't playing) and most of those players would star if played at D-III level.  That's not knocking D-III players either, but the fact is, if most D-III players had the opportunity, they would have been at a higher level to begin with.

He had an excellent career at CNU, no doubt about that, however, there is a significant difference in dominating defenses that are made up of guys that are usually a step too slow, too light and/or too short than being able to compete on the next level. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 10, 2010, 11:53:50 AM
I've been trying to provide the reality check side of the equation on this for a while. But of course, I'm not related to him either, so that helps with the whole impartiality thing.

Fred Jackson eventually made it to the show through a long, convoluted path. That's still out there for Tunde Ogun to follow if he can devote that many years to it. (Jackson was a senior in 2002, reached the NFL in 2008.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on May 10, 2010, 12:13:17 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on May 10, 2010, 11:04:09 AM
... the fact is, if most D-III players had the opportunity, they would have been at a higher level to begin with.

In many cases, yes, but remember too (as I reported last year (http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/midatlantic/2009/Ogun%27s+season+reshaped+by+injury)) that Ogun did begin at the higher levels, specifically South Carolina and Cincinnati. There are other factors aside from basic skill that brought him to CNU.

And, yes, the path to the pros has a lot more speed bumps from the D3 level than it does from the D1 level. I said before I did think Ogun would get picked up as a free agent by a team because he does have the size and has been clocked with decent speed. I'm not advocating willy-nilly (did I spell that right?) for any great D3 player to go pro, but I specifically thought that Ogun had most of the right components to get him there as a FA.

Any shot out of D3 is going to be a tough shot, no doubt.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on May 11, 2010, 08:24:52 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on May 10, 2010, 11:04:09 AM
Ryan - it would have been nice if Ogun got signed however, there's a reason we all opine on a message board and do something else for a living while others do the scouting.  

When you think about it, there are over well 500 universities and colleges playing NCAA football (not including those playing NAIA).  There is alot of talent in those upper divisions, particularly D-I & IAA (even if they aren't playing) and most of those players would star if played at D-III level.  That's not knocking D-III players either, but the fact is, if most D-III players had the opportunity, they would have been at a higher level to begin with.

He had an excellent career at CNU, no doubt about that, however, there is a significant difference in dominating defenses that are made up of guys that are usually a step too slow, too light and/or too short than being able to compete on the next level.  
the reasons you give are exactly why i knew he wouldn't be DRAFTED...but his measurables (height, weight, 40, short shuttle, etc.) are very comparable to guys who did get drafted and he has experience at the d1 level (albeit as a db, if i'm not mistaken) and when healthy, he was pretty dominant on the d3 level - there aren't as many roster limits placed on nfl teams this time of year...i thought it likely that he would get a mini-campu invite somewhere
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on May 11, 2010, 09:21:28 AM
Ryan - it's obvious the scouts saw something with Ogun (or didn't) that we fans don't.  The NFL game is different than college, they look for different things (I haven't checked, but it would be interesting to see how many on this board were predicting a FA signing for the kid from William Patterson for example - so you never know).  

As you mentioned, he started at D-I and moved around, i.e., lack of playing time at South Carolina, moved to UC and left before ending up a CNU.  He was highly recruited out of high school but a number of highly recruited kids don't pan out in D-I.  Some can't handle the competition at the highest level in college because in HS there is rarely that much quality talent on the field at any one time and stars can easily dominate.    

HS stars are rarely challenged and often coddled, i.e., competition for playing time is a new experience for many and for most D-I players, the "love" they received from the college coaThe game may become a "job" vs. "fun".  ches during their recruitment ends once they sign the letter of commitment.  They become a number as it's a business.  The game may become a "job" vs. "fun".  The cheerleaders aren't baking them cupcakes or wearing their jerseys at Friday night pep rallies any longer.  Some may not be able to or want to handle that.  

I am not even going to pretend to know Ogun circumstances or why he finally settled at CNU however, from his career there, its obvious he was comfortable.  Maybe he'll still get a chance in the NFL some day, possible Canada.   Hopefully whatever his eventual career path is, he doesn't live in the "was" but in the "now".  He should take pride in all that he accomplished, i.e., All - American, because even though it was D-III, he is in a very select group and excelled at the level he played at.  Really, that's all one can truly strive for.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 11, 2010, 09:59:55 AM
While I was hoping someone would pick up Ogun as a FA, I'm not surprised at the turn of events.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 11, 2010, 05:14:40 PM
I hope he gets picked up too (Ogun). It's probably better than humping a rucksack and keeping his carbine clean.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on May 11, 2010, 05:52:23 PM
Well if Ogun doesn't get picked up as a FA somewhere, someday, I truly hope he got (and if he didn't, will get) his degree and is a successful "pro" in whatever his chosen occupation is and has a positive impact on people going forward as he did for the CNU fans that rooted for him the last several years.  In the end, that's what its really all about.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on May 12, 2010, 02:38:03 AM
His agent, KEEPING IT REAL, spent too much time promoting him on the D3boards instead of making calls to the NFL.  Hopefully Tunde changes agent and maybe gets a shot at the CFL.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on May 12, 2010, 01:41:17 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on May 12, 2010, 02:38:03 AM
His agent, KEEPING IT REAL, spent too much time promoting him on the D3boards instead of making calls to the NFL.  Hopefully Tunde changes agent and maybe gets a shot at the CFL.
and somehow i'm not shocked that KIR hasn't shown up since the draft...i was hoping he was at least a man of his word and would remember his side of our "bet" (which i can't fully remember, to be honest)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on May 12, 2010, 08:01:54 PM
Quote from: narch on May 12, 2010, 01:41:17 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on May 12, 2010, 02:38:03 AM
His agent, KEEPING IT REAL, spent too much time promoting him on the D3boards instead of making calls to the NFL.  Hopefully Tunde changes agent and maybe gets a shot at the CFL.
and somehow i'm not shocked that KIR hasn't shown up since the draft...i was hoping he was at least a man of his word and would remember his side of our "bet" (which i can't fully remember, to be honest)

For some reason I was under the impression that KIR was just an updated login name for OGUN2K, who I thought was Tunde's uncle. But at my age it's easy to get confused.  :) 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on May 13, 2010, 02:11:14 PM
Quote from: narch on May 12, 2010, 01:41:17 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on May 12, 2010, 02:38:03 AM
His agent, KEEPING IT REAL, spent too much time promoting him on the D3boards instead of making calls to the NFL.  Hopefully Tunde changes agent and maybe gets a shot at the CFL.
and somehow i'm not shocked that KIR hasn't shown up since the draft...i was hoping he was at least a man of his word and would remember his side of our "bet" (which i can't fully remember, to be honest)

Perhaps the problem was KIR did talk to the NFL agents in much the same manner he posted on this board and ran them all off. ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 16, 2010, 06:13:54 PM
Beavers of Wesley has a hell of a road to hoe with the stable of receivers that the Saints have. But he has a shot and a shot is better than none......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 17, 2010, 01:45:34 PM
It may have been mentioned earlier (February?), but it's worth repeating that GCP Offensive Coordinator Jimmy Teague resigned after one season at Greensboro to become the HC at Danville's (VA) George Washington HS.  If he's as successful there as he was at Reidsville (NC) HS, they'll bring home a lot of postseason hardware!  He's also the father of the MU QB.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 17, 2010, 01:55:34 PM
Narch, ROOCRU, HSC Tiger,SCOT please remind me to stay off your sh1% list. Have not seen a hammering like this in a while. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on May 20, 2010, 09:28:01 AM
Teague leaving Greensboro to go back to HS is good for the rest of the conference and a tough loss for the Pride.  Greensboro, particularly the offense with a developing passing game, was coming on strong in the latter part of last year and wasn't an automatic "W" anymore.  He had a lot to do with that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on May 20, 2010, 04:32:55 PM
It is not a hammering, they just not doing their research!  HA HA HA!!! Keep looking fellas.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on May 27, 2010, 01:42:48 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on May 20, 2010, 04:32:55 PM
It is not a hammering, they just not doing their research!  HA HA HA!!! Keep looking fellas.
the suspense is killing me...who did tunde ogun sign with - you would think that if he were on an nfl roster that he would be listed on a roster on the nfl website (he's not) and that his uncle would be shouting his signing from a rooftop (he isn't)

and aren't you supposed to sign your posts with "narch is the man" or something like that :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on May 27, 2010, 01:58:18 PM
It seemed everyone knows where he is. Keep looking. He is with someone. Know it alls!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 28, 2010, 10:07:27 PM
i'm too tired to look.....or too stupid....just tell us where he is...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2010, 11:31:28 AM
I see nothing readily apparent either. Checked the roster of the Green Bay Blizzard of the IFL, even.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on May 31, 2010, 05:07:11 PM
Thank You to all that have served to protect our Country. Also, please remember those who we cannot thank in person, due to their providing the ultimate sacriface for our Country. To my Dad- Semper Fi
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on May 31, 2010, 05:43:21 PM
Semper Fi to your dad Highlander.   See you in the fall!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 01, 2010, 12:36:52 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on May 28, 2010, 10:07:27 PM
i'm too tired to look.....or too stupid....just tell us where he is...
based on the information i have available, i'd surmise that he's at home playing madden with a create-a-player version of himself, perhaps :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on June 01, 2010, 05:11:59 PM
You must have talked to him?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 04, 2010, 03:36:33 PM
Augsburg ventured north to Manitoba!! This is what the USA South needs to do if they have not. Squeeze in some snaps for Narch and boys...

This really should be allowed more often. Find out what your depth chart will look like before August....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on June 09, 2010, 06:27:53 PM
Here's the spring review from Murvul

http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20100606/SPORTS/306069982/-1/RSS10&rssfeed=RSS10 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20100606/SPORTS/306069982/-1/RSS10&rssfeed=RSS10)

Got an invite to Media Day (Aug. 3) at MC this week. Looks like they're going to try and raise the bar a little bit to encourage folks to make the drive.

In the past I've kept most of my questions off the webcast for the one-on-one sessions but I'm wondering for those who have watched or watched the download later, would it be better if the media asked more? I'm open to taking questions from the message board and being the guy who asks them that day. (Subject to personal discression of course  ;) )

Hitting my favorite topic, what's the view of how long/if the D1 super conference moves will trickle down to D3? It appears that by Aug being in the Pac 10/16 could mean not so much you're on the Pacific as that you're west of the Mississippi River. Obviosuly its a TV dollar move, but could looking at getting the most out of an athletic budget mean some folks take the chance to look again at D3 super conference?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on June 10, 2010, 08:23:55 PM
D1 super conferences are going to happen - will diffenately impact local DI football.  In the ACC, schools like VA Tech, FSU, Miami, Clemson, GA Tech, any or all could move on as the ripple effect occurs.  The ACC will revert back to a basketball conference (not that it really has been considered a football one to begin with).

Wouldn't be surprised as the realiegnment occurs that these power football schools tumb their nose at the NCAA and break off forming their own governing body (NCAA now doesn't control the BCS).  It's happened before when the AAU was once the dominate ruling body for athletics.  Now its reduced to running summer basketball and baseball tournaments.

As for DIII creating super conferences, that might be more of a stretch.  Revenue's not there (most team play in front of 1 - 3M fans @ $5 a ticket and there's no TV $) and the overhead for teams to travel greater distances, less the flights (because they'd probably go by bus), is not much different - DIII kids still have to eat and sleep so the cost of hotels, meals, etc for 60 players or so that travel is not that much different.

The one thing that might happen down the road, if the NCAA becomes weaken and/or even disappears - you might see a dissolving of the various classifications.  For instance, in Ohio, there are a number of DII schools, Ashland, Findley, etc., would a school like Mt. Union blend in with them?  If NCAA no longer had authority, could a large contributor, i.e., like a T-Boone Pickens at OSU donate substanial funds and a D-III moves up to the big boys (student body size doesn't matter, if a school was only 100 kids and they all are talented football players, that's all you need).

But the above would take a long time, probably not in our life-times. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on June 16, 2010, 12:00:22 AM
Good article on the Fighting Scots by Batteredbard.  I hope Coach I has found some answers on the offensvie line which we struggle throughout the '09 season.  Hopefully some of the young guys that played during the last 3-4 games on the OL will use that experience to produce a stronger unit this fall.  Losing Hightower on paper looks like a big loss, but I really don't think he was a big factor throughout the season.  He just wasn't as productive as a senior.  He had a hard time making defenders miss in the open field.  It always seemed we got a lift offensively when Tate was in the backfield running the ball.

Finally, I'm very excited about have Media Day at MC in August (even though it's a year late).  My biggest complaint about Media Day is the audio system over the internet during the past 2 years.  We could barely hear the coaches two years ago and last year there was no sound.  I'm sure many USA-South fans were disappointed.  As much as MC wanted to host Media Day, I'm sure they are going to make it a first-class event.

Personally, I would like to see the media do their homework about the 8 teams and ask some serious questions so the fans can listen to the answers by the coaches. 


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 21, 2010, 07:09:18 PM
Hey KIR,

Is Tunde talking to UFL teams?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 22, 2010, 04:42:16 PM
85......you might should have just rolled a flash bang in the room.....with that question to.....uh.... that guy. LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on June 22, 2010, 10:54:50 PM
What's your problem abnrgr?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on June 23, 2010, 10:53:10 AM
No problem. Just busting on you. Eerybopdy busts on each other.  I got no problem; just my sick sense of humor. I will give you one thing you are passionate
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on June 23, 2010, 11:19:42 AM
You can't be busting on me, my name wasn't mentioned.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on June 23, 2010, 10:27:26 PM
Good job being Tunde's agent KIR.....  All your boasting has really paid off......    :D    :D    :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on June 23, 2010, 10:56:23 PM
It has paid off dumb !@#! Also for your info i'm not his agent. Just cause something is not broadcasted doesn't mean he isn't somewhere! Jerk off!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 24, 2010, 04:21:50 PM
Dang. It was a simple and honest question. I had forgotten about UFL until I read something on line and was wondering if Tunde was headed that way. Didn't mean to stir up stuff. Just wondering where he's gonna play ball.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on June 24, 2010, 08:28:13 PM
You good CNU85. Some people don't know how to keep their mouth shut unless spoken to. lol! :D :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 24, 2010, 11:57:46 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on May 27, 2010, 01:58:18 PM
It seemed everyone knows where he is. Keep looking. He is with someone. Know it alls!

Hi. This is you having spoken to us. Just like you spoke unfulfilled smack for months.

You have yet to drop the name. Doesn't exist?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on June 25, 2010, 08:11:52 AM
Have not been on here much lately, but I just went back and reviewed the last three pages, and while I do not know where Ogun has or will end up, I know that he will not be in the backfield at CNU. For 7 teams, that is welcome news. He was a beast at CNU, and I wish him all the best, but can we start talking about the upcoming season.

Who looks good for 2010? Who has a lot of holes to fill? I obviously try to keep up with Ferrum, and while they lost some key personnel, I am hearing good things about them. Not sure what they will do at QB, as Dobson graduated, and their #2 QB from last year transferred. RB's should be solid, and Defensive line has everybody back...i think. O line took some hits, and LB's have experience, but the loss of Maureik Goode will hurt. I don't have much info on the safeties and corner backs.....Kicking game will be solid.
Over all I think they will be competitive, but just to what degree is still a question.

Ok, what about .....Uh  Shenandoah, or maybe Maryville? Anybody else please jump in.....but lets focus on the season ahead.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on June 25, 2010, 08:56:05 AM
Good idea
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 25, 2010, 11:45:16 AM
Yes, let's. Where will Ogun be playing in the season ahead? His biggest booster has told us it's somewhere, but won't say where.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on July 04, 2010, 08:00:26 AM
Anyone have a sense for how Hampton-Sydney will be in 2010?  I believe its going to be a tough opener for Averett.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on July 05, 2010, 08:57:01 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on July 04, 2010, 08:00:26 AM
Anyone have a sense for how Hampton-Sydney will be in 2010?  I believe its going to be a tough opener for Averett.

Looking at their roster, who graduated who's back etc. they look like to be awfully tough again this year, especially on defense. Have a couple of preseason A.A. at defensive end and safety.  AU is going to get a pretty good "gut check" right out the gate.

Not a "must win" game especially since its out of conference but probably a "must compete". If AU can compete with H.S. regardless of getting a win think that would be a pretty good sign for the season to come. One thing about it, going to get a lot of questions answered pretty quick by opening against H.S.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 08, 2010, 09:46:23 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on July 05, 2010, 08:57:01 AM
Quote from: WFU34 on July 04, 2010, 08:00:26 AM
Anyone have a sense for how Hampton-Sydney will be in 2010?  I believe its going to be a tough opener for Averett.

Looking at their roster, who graduated who's back etc. they look like to be awfully tough again this year, especially on defense. Have a couple of preseason A.A. at defensive end and safety.  AU is going to get a pretty good "gut check" right out the gate.

Not a "must win" game especially since its out of conference but probably a "must compete". If AU can compete with H.S. regardless of getting a win think that would be a pretty good sign for the season to come. One thing about it, going to get a lot of questions answered pretty quick by opening against H.S.

All in region games are must wins!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 11, 2010, 11:28:41 AM
Is it time for our pre-season poll yet????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on July 21, 2010, 03:01:31 PM
Were the heck is everybody? Know its summer but camp starts in couple weeks.....got to be something to talk about.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 21, 2010, 03:13:44 PM
AUPOP
They all must be watching the "Human Centipede" a true sign of the end of the world.  ;)

Everybody is tied for 1st place right now.....but if Ferrum loses than it's all good. Sorry but I had to bust on Allen C
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on July 21, 2010, 06:43:41 PM
Got this from Maryville.

"The Maryville College Athletic Department announced today that its Scots Broadcasting Network will partner with the online video company Knox ivi to offer Maryville College fans a variety of live internet video broadcasts of games, both home and away.
Plans are being implemented to broadcast approximately 80 athletic events during the 2010-2011 academic year, beginning with the USA South Athletic Conference's Football Media Day hosted Aug. 3 at the College.
Knox ivi is an award-winning Internet video broadcast network featuring local content that aims to connect the people of Knoxville and East Tennessee with each other through high-definition video technology, innovative production capabilities and original programming."

So I hope that means the sound and I think temporary black outs will not be a problem, but then again people step on cables and wires come out or don't get plugged in the right spot.

Here's my big three pre-season question marks
1)Where is MC's run game after losing two very productive seniors in Hightower and Moore, plus the O-line depth issue.

2)Can CNU get back on track with the right quarterback?

3) How far along is Greensboro in the rebuilding process? If they make as big a jump from year one to two under the new regime as they did from zero, are they in contention?



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 22, 2010, 12:18:29 AM
Good hearing from you Batteredbard and I'm excited that we are hosting (after a 1 year delay) Media Day for the USA-South Conference.  I'm hearing MC is planning to put on a good show for the event.

Darryl Tate has been waiting in the wings for the past 3 years at RB and expect him to play well.  To be honest with you, I didn't think too much about MC's running attack last year.  Too inexperienced up front.  I though Tate was the most physical RB last year, but didn't get enough running opportunities.

Here's my preseason picks:

1)  NCW  -  still returning many good players from last year
2)  CNU -  By not relying solely on the run, they will be more balanced this season on offense.  Got alot to prove after going 5-5 last season.
3)  MC -  Many good players returning in the skill positions on offense.  Need to replace LB Chewning on defense.
4)  Ferrum  -  Vann returns on offense (has he turned 30 yet).  Seems like he's been there forever.  Always a physical team.
5)  Averett -  Always seems to get the most of their out of their players.  Usually gets better as the season goes on.
6)  SU  -  A scary team if they ever get it figured out.  A physical running game and a tough defense could get them ranked higher by the end of the season.
7)  GC   -  A great job coaching last season for GC, but can they repeat the same type of season after losing their offensive coordinator.
8)  Methodist - Hope they win alot of games in Coach S last season, but lost alot of players from a 3-7 team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 22, 2010, 10:16:22 PM
Hey Everyone,

Can it get any hotter.......they say it will this weekend......If it snowed right now, I would lay down and roll in it the length of the field and back. I hope it cools down some before training camp opens....

I want to go ahead and put my neck out on the chopping block and predict that Averett will be in the top 3 this year if not number 1. My son met up with several other grads this past weekend and seems everyone is excited but not saying why. Could be they drank too much and was reliving 2006 again but just in case they did know what they were talking about I will make the prediction.

Just to keep it lively, Chris said most of the guys were over weight and out of shape big time. Could be too many long necks and fast food over the past 18 months.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 23, 2010, 12:03:07 AM
OK, well here is where I think the USA South teams will end up.


1.  NCW- They seem deep, and though they lost some players, they will still be strong.

2   CNU- It should be an interesting year- Is Long back at QB?

3. Averett- Will be strong, but may finish just out of the running.

4.  Shenandoah- I can't help but believe that they show big gains. Avg. losses were only 3.6 points. Strong recruiting efforts this season.

5. GC - Some holes to fill- but could be better than I expect.

6. Ferrum- MANY MANY Holes to fill. I am hoping that this is not the case, and that they finish in the top 4, but it will be an uphill climb.

7.  Maryville- Just worried that they will hit a bumpy road early- This is always a good team. Will improve as the season goes on.

8.  Methodist- Not there this year-Team in transition. Will be similar to last year.

Obviously I would like to see the Panthers on top, but I have reservations about some things. Just my prediction- take nothing personally.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 23, 2010, 09:59:14 AM
Thanks (and +1) for the USA South updates and predictions.  Since Guilford plays (and recruits against) so many of the USASAC's teams, I feel GCQ ought to be an honorary member.  :)  We open with Greensboro and Methodist at home and then go to Danville to take on Averett.  The Quakers haven't played Ferrum in several years, but geographically that's also a convenient match-up.  We've played Maryville in the past, but, as far as I know, Guilford's never faced CNU, Shenandoah or NCWC in football.

Let the games begin!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on July 23, 2010, 12:13:40 PM
I agree with KickerDad.  Although I'm sure Averett will probably be picked 4 or 5th on media day because other schools are more fashionable, but there is no reason to think they don't have the ability to win the conference this year.   

They have the best return specialist/WR in Dixon (2nd All-American '09 and 2nd team preseason All-American in '10, the only USASAC player so designated) and best returning QB.  If Shaw (Off. Coord.) opens up the passing game, they should be very explosive.

The offensive line, which was a point of concern at times last year will be greatly improved.  Defensely, particularly against the pass, will be tough. 

As always, depth and injuries (lack of) will be key for Averett and any of the teams.  But with that said, it really doesn't matter what any of us think, that's why they play the games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 23, 2010, 08:12:03 PM
I haven't heard much from CNU this summer......there doesn't seem to be much excitement. Could be they are a little ticked at 5-5 and keeping things quiet and focused. Long is working his knee to get back in time. I hope he does. CNU doesn't finish 5-5 last year if he played all year. I'm not sure how this year will go. The first game is gonna be a killer.....#3 Wesley. Ugh! At least it's at home!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 23, 2010, 08:18:05 PM
the monarchs won't finish in last place...never have, and this won't be the year...not predicting a first-place finish with all the losses, but i don't see this team finishing last...just my $.02
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 24, 2010, 01:42:43 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 23, 2010, 08:12:03 PM
The first game is gonna be a killer.....#3 Wesley. Ugh! At least it's at home!

Hey CNU,

Is this just a 1 and 1 or is this gonna be a yearly thing vs. Wesley?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCSID on July 24, 2010, 01:36:22 PM
USA South Football Media Day Set For August 3rd
Pre-Season Poll to be released at the event.

(FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.) - The annual USA South Football Media Day will be hosted on the Maryville College campus in Maryville, Tennessee and take place on Tuesday, August 3rd at 11:00 a.m. Each of the Conference's eight football coaches will address the media and give their thoughts on the upcoming football season.

This season marks the tenth year of USA South football. Last season, N.C. Wesleyan College earned its second league championship in the past three seasons.

The unveiling of the football pre-season poll will take place on the day of the event. The poll will be given to the media and coaches at the press conference, then released on www.USASouth.net (http://www.usasouth.net) after the event has concluded.

The Conference will also have a live and archived video webcast of the event. A link to the free broadcast will be available on the USA South website, www.d3football.com (http://www.d3football.com), www.knoxivi.com (http://www.knoxivi.com), and www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics (http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics).

The 2010 USA South football schedule kicks-off on Saturday, September 4 as all eight teams begin their seasons with non-conference action.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 24, 2010, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on July 24, 2010, 01:42:43 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 23, 2010, 08:12:03 PM
The first game is gonna be a killer.....#3 Wesley. Ugh! At least it's at home!

Hey CNU,

Is this just a 1 and 1 or is this gonna be a yearly thing vs. Wesley?

not sure. a lot depends on future conference alignments and the acfc. I'm clueless on what is going on there, but i would imagine both Salisbury and Wesley are tired of playing iin a conference without an AQ
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 24, 2010, 06:36:02 PM
Interesting. I just looked at all the rosters for the UFL. Omaha only lists one player, Ahman Green on roster...but....on the other 4 teams.....nobody from D3 and only one NAIA player.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on July 25, 2010, 11:09:30 AM
I dont like to make picks for placing, dont want to seem like I am insulting anyone but just a couple of thoughts:

SU: had to be the most snake bit team I ever saw. Easily could have been 6-4 if they had any luck at all. Have 61 recruits coming in. They could be the conference's dark horse. Couple key players, Just a little luck who knows.

NCW: Looking at the roster lost Jordan, Webb, Haywood and Bush. Thats like a millions yards and a gazillion points. Can the offense be as explosive with all those guys gone?  Man, I hope not.

CNU: Talked with a few of their guys over the summer.....slow boil best described their mentality, I suspect they will be back with a vengence. Lots of frustration needing to be let out. Legister takes over for Ogun. Havnt really seen him play since high school, different style but a good back. He's not going to run over you like Ogun did,  but your going to leave your shoes and socks on the field a few times trying to tackle him.

AU: Lots of anticipation for this season. Defense is solid, especially against the pass. Offense can be better than last year. O line will be better but not deep, they will need to stay healthy to make a run. Have to find a running back but have like 12 or 13 coming in so should be ok.  Need to play to their strengths, put it in the air and score. If O line can consistently give the QB time to throw they will be a very dangerous offense.

Best of luck guys.......is it kick off time yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on July 25, 2010, 04:08:57 PM
I'm looking forward to the season and hopefully the reemergence of CNU to the top of the standings.  My preseason pick is NCWC, they seem to have the right attitude and always play hard.  Hopefully CNU has the right attitude and will play hard in every game.  If they do, then I can see them being on the top.  I hope last year was a wake-up call for the Captains and they bounce back and play hard in every game (last year I'm not sure that was the case for every game). I also agree with AUPOP that SU could be a dark horse and Allen C that Averett and Greensboro could be tougher than expected.

As for my brother, he was cleared to start running earlier this month and has maintained a regular running regimen ever since.  He is not yet 100%, but he is working hard to get back ahead of schedule.  Whether he plays QB or not is up to the coaching staff.  I know he would love to play safety, but he wants to win more than anything so he will do what's best for the team. 

AUPOP, I never saw Legister play in HS, but from what I have seen in his time at CNU I do think he is a power back.  I was impressed with how he ran when given the opportunity the last 2 years and I think he will turn out to be a great back.  I also hope they feature Keith Gaines a little more.  He is an explosive player that would be a good 1-2 punch with Legister.

ProudFightingScot, I believe the Wesley contract might be a 2 and 2, but I'm not 100% sure.  I know there was discussion whether it should be a 2-year or 4-year contract.  I know that if it is a 1 and 1, CNU would probably try to fill the schedule with another elite opponent.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 25, 2010, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: hasanova on July 23, 2010, 09:59:14 AM
 The Quakers haven't played Ferrum in several years, but geographically that's also a convenient match-up.  

I would love to see Ferrum drop this game with Southern Virginia University- They need an NCAA opponent, not an NAIA. Its just not helping them in the long run.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on July 26, 2010, 07:27:36 AM
CNUALUM9, didnt mean to imply Legister lacks power, he doesn't. Never was shy about contact. Just remember him making some ankle breaking cuts back in the day. Left many a defender with that ' deer in the headlights" look.

Always like seeing the local kids do well, sure Legister will have a great season....just hoping not to great on October 9th.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 26, 2010, 08:42:53 AM
Quote from: Allen C on July 25, 2010, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: hasanova on July 23, 2010, 09:59:14 AM
 The Quakers haven't played Ferrum in several years, but geographically that's also a convenient match-up.  

I would love to see Ferrum drop this game with Southern Virginia University- They need an NCAA opponent, not an NAIA. Its just not helping them in the long run.
Ironically, the Quakers have played SVU for about 5 years in a row.  I'm not sure what happened to put an end to the FC/GCQ series.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 26, 2010, 11:14:34 AM
Well if you want to play Ferrum then you want to get hit because those boys bring the hat. It's a good thing to play somebody who will try to hurt you. Cowboy you up quick

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 26, 2010, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on July 26, 2010, 11:14:34 AM
Well if you want to play Ferrum then you want to get hit because those boys bring the hat. It's a good thing to play somebody who will try to hurt you. Cowboy you up quick


I agree.  Guilford's beaten FC some, but when we lose, it's usually ugly.  I remember one trip to Ferrum a number of years back where GCQ went in 4-0 and lost badly, like 45-0.  And don't even get me started on a game I saw at GCQ where Chris Warren was a Panther after losing his DI scholarship at UVa.  He was a future NFL star at a small school - yikes!  
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on July 26, 2010, 12:11:36 PM
I've heard from more than one person that Legister will not be back.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 26, 2010, 09:27:03 PM
Boy could the Panthers use another Chris Warren. Those types don't come along too often. Vann should break Warren's APY record this year, but it will take Vann 4 years to do what Chris Warren did in 2.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on July 26, 2010, 09:57:40 PM
I have heard the same thing. There are more players who will not be back this year. If they don't change up their defense they will be in alot of trouble like last year. The offensive line will have to do better than last year if they want to move the ball. I always thought Leggister should move to MLB. Wesley will mop up CNU if they come out timid.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on July 27, 2010, 08:58:01 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 24, 2010, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on July 24, 2010, 01:42:43 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 23, 2010, 08:12:03 PM
The first game is gonna be a killer.....#3 Wesley. Ugh! At least it's at home!

Hey CNU,

Is this just a 1 and 1 or is this gonna be a yearly thing vs. Wesley?

not sure. a lot depends on future conference alignments and the acfc. I'm clueless on what is going on there, but i would imagine both Salisbury and Wesley are tired of playing iin a conference without an AQ

Can't answer if its a yearly thing with Wesley - but (as I shift into my ACFC SID hat) after this year Salisbury is in the Empire 8 for football and Wesley goes independent as the conference dies
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 27, 2010, 06:41:05 PM
Quote from: nnasid on July 27, 2010, 08:58:01 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 24, 2010, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on July 24, 2010, 01:42:43 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 23, 2010, 08:12:03 PM
The first game is gonna be a killer.....#3 Wesley. Ugh! At least it's at home!

Hey CNU,

Is this just a 1 and 1 or is this gonna be a yearly thing vs. Wesley?

not sure. a lot depends on future conference alignments and the acfc. I'm clueless on what is going on there, but i would imagine both Salisbury and Wesley are tired of playing iin a conference without an AQ

Can't answer if its a yearly thing with Wesley - but (as I shift into my ACFC SID hat) after this year Salisbury is in the Empire 8 for football and Wesley goes independent as the conference dies

Thanks for the info. I'm sure it has been written on d3fotball.com. I'm way behind in my reading. (Sorry Pat)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 27, 2010, 06:58:44 PM
Quote from: Allen C on July 26, 2010, 09:27:03 PM
Boy could the Panthers use another Chris Warren. Those types don't come along too often. Vann should break Warren's APY record this year, but it will take Vann 4 years to do what Chris Warren did in 2.
Any team could.  lol  Well, he was definitely a DI athletic talent and, of course, a star in the NFL.  I can't remember the circumstances for his ouster in Charlottesville ... was it grades, discipline or both?  At any rate, he was just too much for most DIII defenses to stop.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 27, 2010, 08:45:37 PM
No other RB comes close to Warren throughout the history of the USA-South/Dixie Conference.  But Vann is very good.

I hear Maryville will be providing a link on the internet to Media Day next Tuesday.  Should be a first-class production if Maryville's SID Eric Etchison has anything to do with it.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 27, 2010, 10:42:36 PM
USA South Football Media Day Video Link Announced
Jul 27, 2010
Press Release posted by USAC

(FAYETTEVILLE, N.C.) - The annual USA South Football Media Day will be hosted by Maryville College and take place on Tuesday, August 3rd at 11:00 a.m. Each of the Conference's eight football coaches will address the media and give their thoughts on the upcoming football season.

The press conference will be video streamed live over the internet thanks to representatives at Maryville. USA South football fans will be able to view the event at no charge. To view the event click on the following link: www.knoxivi.com/maryvillecollege/athletics

Please remember, the broadcast will not be active until the event begins.

The USA South preseason poll will be unveiled at the event and later posted on the Conference's website.

The 2010 USA South football schedule kicks-off on Saturday, September 4th as all eight teams begin their seasons with non-conference action.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 29, 2010, 11:13:15 AM
Congrats to Diggs

http://www.cnusports.com/news/2010/7/13/FB_0713104550.aspx?path=football (http://www.cnusports.com/news/2010/7/13/FB_0713104550.aspx?path=football)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 29, 2010, 09:35:01 PM
congrats to mosko...afca good works team

http://www.mumonarchs.com/news/2010/7/20/FB_0720100459.aspx
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 30, 2010, 08:14:45 AM
Quote from: narch on July 29, 2010, 09:35:01 PM
congrats to mosko...afca good works team

http://www.mumonarchs.com/news/2010/7/20/FB_0720100459.aspx

that's what it is all about!!! Nice!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 30, 2010, 10:49:36 AM
Good work Mosko.....nice form too. Good picture...looks big time
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on August 03, 2010, 04:04:10 PM
Below is the Coach's preseason poll that was released today.  Actually surprised that Averett was picked #2 - now to see if the boys can live up to the expectations.  Seems the coaches view the league in 2 tiers this year - NCWU, Averett & CNU as the teams that should challenge for the top spot.  With the 4 others tightly bunched.  Unfortunately for Methodist, everyone must have picked them last.

I watched the live feed.  Not much real info shared except if you wanted to know what happened at the dinner the previous night at the Maryville's coach's house.


2010 USA South Coaches Poll
Rank   Institution (1st place Votes)   Pts.
1.   N.C. Wesleyan (5)                    45
2.   Averett (2)                    41
3.   Christopher Newport (1)    40
4.   Ferrum                                    28
t-5.   Greensboro                    21
t-5.   Maryville                                    21
7.   Shenandoah                    20
8.   Methodist                                      8



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 03, 2010, 04:47:42 PM
I had difficulties at first with the feed.....I caught the last few coaches interviews. Anyone see what Kelchner had to say about CNU? He was probably tight lipped.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on August 03, 2010, 07:28:53 PM
Kelchner said little about CNU except singling out 2 individuals for their public service work and internships (1 guy interned with NASA this summer) and about the challenges they have at QB this year.  He did comment that your starting QB last year that got hurt (Long?) was attempting to be in the mix this year. 

He went on a long sermon about "loyality", i.e., that this conference schools have shown towards its coaches.  You could say that was "coachspeak" to say - even if we have a lousy year, extend the contract.

The Maryville coach went on forever introducing/thanking virtually everyone associated with the program - probably spoke for 20 minutes or more with about 1 minute actually dedicated to football, the team and upcoming prospects.  He also killed time talking about his mother scolding him for chewing gum at his daughter's wedding.  He better win because stand-up comedy isn't in his future.

As earlier noted - no one really said anything.  Possibly only half the coaches were even asked questions and those that did ask a question won't be confused to be working for a New York media outlet.  The questions were so soft and hit so far out of the park you would have almost thought you were at a beer league softball game. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 03, 2010, 07:58:34 PM
Well, honestly, having been at a lot of these media day events, the coaches say so little of note about their team that you have to ask some very basic questions just so you have enough to file your story.

One thing that I took note of (and posted on Twitter):

Ferrum coach Dave Davis says it's difficult to predict how D-III teams will finish, but in Kickoff 2009, we had them going 5-5, 4-3. They went 5-5, 3-4.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on August 03, 2010, 08:47:12 PM
CNU will not finish 3rd.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 03, 2010, 10:15:45 PM
i've always heard that coach sy was a hoot at the media day, and i can say he's a really funny guy in person...the conference got a taste of what they'll miss @ media day w/o him in the future...

KIR...not gonna hold up your end of our little wager, eh...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 03, 2010, 11:31:30 PM
Great job by Maryville officials hosting Media Day.  A crowd of approximately 150 showed up and MC's SID Etchison should take alot of credit putting it all together.  It was held at the new Clayton Civic Center on the Maryville campus.

I really liked what CNU's Kelchner said about the coaches and the loyalty of their schools towards their coaches.  The following are the years the USA-South head coaches have been at their institution......

Averett - Dunleavy (9 years)
CNU - Kelchner (10 years)
Ferrum - Davis (17 years)
Greensboro - Hunt (2 years)
Maryville - Ierulli (8 years)
Methodist - Sypult (17 years)
NC Wesleyan - Mark Henniger (3 years)
Shenandoah - Paul Barnes (11 years)

WFU34, I guess there was nothing you liked about Media Day.  You complained about Kelchner talking about loyalty from their schools, coaches not saying enough about their teams, the media not asking good questions and Maryville's coach going for 20 minutes.

I watched the videostream again (which you can log back on and watch again) and Ierulli spoke for 12 minutes not more than 20 minutes and he talked about the team for 5 minutes not 1 minute like you said.  I guess math is not one of your strongest areas.  You complained the coaches didn't talk much about their teams, but Ierulli talked about his offense and defense, the returning players at the different positions and team goals for the 2010 season.  Finally, I thought he was entertaining by not just going through the normal "coach-speak" routine that you normally get from these coaches.  But I forgot, you complained about that as well.

Finally, I really think the team to watch this season will be Shenandoah.  Though 1-9 last season, they lost 8 games by 7 points or less last season.  They are returning the #1 rusher in the conference from last season and their best running back from 2008 who was injured last year.   Could be very dangerous if they get on a roll early in the season.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCSID on August 03, 2010, 11:46:13 PM
There are additional interviews at: http://www.knoxivi.com/maryvillecollege/athletics (http://www.knoxivi.com/maryvillecollege/athletics)
Go to the 97th minute and see a pair of Scots players and additional coach comments with a little more details in their answers.

We had a great response to the video stream.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 04, 2010, 01:53:53 AM
I watched Media day, and very much enjoyed it. With the exception of the signal being lost two times briefly, it was a great telecast, and well done.

I have to agree that Shenandoah will be the surprise team this year. I would not be surprised to see them finish in the top three. I was expecting Greensboro to build on last year and come out of the gate on fire, but it sounds like their defense is gonna have many new faces. Any info on their preseason form?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on August 04, 2010, 07:22:27 AM
All in all a nice job done by Maryville. Watched it twice just to see if I heard Coach Dunlevy right.

Huffman will be back at LB for AU, that was a nice surprise, at least for me anyway. Definetley will help the AU defense, probably made moving Smith to tailback a little easier as well, sort of a double dip with him coming back. Have 16, 17 O lineman coming in, must be that Florida connection. Sure didnt see them at the end of spring practice with all the other recruits. Have to see what they bring to the table but sounds like at least depth at o line wont be an issue. All in all sounded fairly positive for AU.

Noticed almost every coach made the same comment. Have to wait to camp to see who is and who isnt actually back, guess everyone has a few question marks.

Little over a week to camp plus I get my garage back.........life is good.    LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: short on August 04, 2010, 12:08:26 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 03, 2010, 07:58:34 PM
Ferrum coach Dave Davis says it's difficult to predict how D-III teams will finish, but in Kickoff 2009, we had them going 5-5, 4-3. They went 5-5, 3-4.

Yes, but you also had an NCAC team ranked around 109 and they finished the year 6th and could have been 4th or 5th in the Nation and won 5 more games than you predicted in the 2009 Kickoff.  So Pat, I think it is very Hard to predict how a team will do at any level but even more so at D3.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2010, 12:10:44 PM
No doubt. We don't claim perfection, just that it's possible.

We also predicted St. Thomas in the Top 25, which nobody else was close on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: short on August 04, 2010, 12:31:53 PM
Wow,
my karma we down by two points after that comment? Why?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 04, 2010, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: short on August 04, 2010, 12:31:53 PM
Wow,
my karma we down by two points after that commit? Why?
...nevermind...i was going to say something about that commit, but i couldn't comment to what i was going to say...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 04, 2010, 01:19:40 PM
Quote from: narch on August 04, 2010, 01:09:45 PM
Quote from: short on August 04, 2010, 12:31:53 PM
Wow,
my karma we down by two points after that commit? Why?
...nevermind...i was going to say something about that commit, but i couldn't comment to what i was going to say...
Beat me to it, narch!  +1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 04, 2010, 05:12:24 PM
As an added fact check six coaches were asked at least one question and several got multiple. Since we solicited on this forum for questions you wanted asked, WFu has no cause to complain.

I think everyone knows coaches do not say a whole lot before camp starts because you never know who might not come back at the last minute. Coach Davis made a great point that D3 you pay (tuition) to play football. Once camp opens there is actually substance and you can ask better questions.

Kelchner on 'loyalty' was one of the highlights for me. Its at 29:17 on the time index if you go back to watch the archive. He played right to the crowd with that veiled dig at Lane Kiffin 20 minutes from Neyland Stadium. The other webcast isn't bad either. More interviews one on one.

As for the poll, we all know it reflects more of last year's standing than next year's potential.
1. NCW - lose 1,000 yards rushing, 1,000 yards receiving and about 3,000 career yards passing.
I see them more 5-2 than 7-0.

2. Averett - outside of a secondary issue they look very promising and despite the game 10 loss to NCW are carrying a lot of momentum - the real front runner

3. CNU - nobody knew how good they might have been or not been in 09 because of injuries, but upping the team size to 125 (on the road to 160 in a few years, yow!!!) is going to give them a lot of good athletes and the up side is that a lot of guys got experience filling in for 12 starters lost to injuries. A contender but need a fast start to carry momentum into early metting with AU.

4. Ferrum - dark horse
5. Greensboro - its a fight to avoid the sophomore slump, but Hunt may be on to something with his platoon system
6. Maryville - absolutely must find a second receiving threat and a speed back or risk Idlette being the next version of the Torrey Lowe show offense GC suffered
7. Shenandoah - 8 points from being a factor in the title hunt last year. If Kyle (1,000+ in 09) and Roberts (missed 09 led team in 08) compliment each other they could be in the mix in week 9 and maybe 10.
8. Methodist - with so many unknowns anything is possible, but taking Sypult's now removed toe (which was why he missed his last media day) and doing a voodoo charm for good fortune wouldn't hurt.

Lastly, heres the local links for coverage.
Media day story
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20100804/SPORTS/308049997 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20100804/SPORTS/308049997)

Media day notebook
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20100804/SPORTS/308049971/0/sports

media day column
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20100804/SPORTS0104/308049978/0/RSS
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2010, 08:41:29 PM
I enjoyed Kelchner's comments too, but the only thing I would say is that that sort of loyalty is hardly unique to the USA South -- I think you could look at most Division III conferences and get the same kind of feeling -- but I did enjoy the dig at the FBS school. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 04, 2010, 10:00:15 PM
Great job covering Media Day yesterday Batterdbard.  As usual, very good articles and the Times gave it great coverage with 3 articles today.  You give good insight into the USA-South Conference.  Are you writing for D3football this season?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on August 04, 2010, 10:27:50 PM
Well - after reading several of the responses to my media day observations, I'm glad to learn that there are several individuals on the board have the time to actually time how long a particular coach spoke (I guess it just seemed like 20 minutes) or count the exact number of questions each coach was asked.

With that being said, I'll add an additonal observation which shots may be taken.  First the loyality comment - no doubt about it, DIII schools have a tendency to be much more loyal to its coaches than the bigger schools.  In particular, most of the USA South coaches have acceptable career records and have either challenged (or won) the conference title over the last several years.  But is that loyality a result of some "altruistic" attitude on the part of the adminstration (which in many cases it may be) or is it a result of the fact that the revenues aren't there, thus not the extreme pressure from the adminstration and alumni? 

If I recall correctly (I'm sure someone will go back to check) on this very board there were individuals calling for both the Shenandoah and Methodist coaches jobs last year.  Why?  While both good men, contributed to their schools, the L's were outpacing the W's.  In DIII, if the program is usually competitive and there are no scandals, a coach can usually count on a long, stable career as most schools are not in the position to turn coaches and buy out contracts.  One could wonder if the revenues were larger and the school more dependant on those monies would the case be the same?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 04, 2010, 10:54:03 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on August 04, 2010, 10:27:50 PM
Well - after reading several of the responses to my media day observations, I'm glad to learn that there are several individuals on the board have the time to actually time how long a particular coach spoke (I guess it just seemed like 20 minutes)

Yes it is an extremely complicated process of looking at the time when he starts then going to the part of the feed where it ends and subtracting...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 05, 2010, 12:08:47 AM
BAtteredBard,

A quick start is needed, but that is not going to be easy. Look at the frst two games of the year....ouch!!! I knew there were a ton of injuries in 09, I just didn't realize there were 12 season ending injuries to key players. It's good to hear 75 players are expected to return and many who started games. Also good to hear this is CNU's largest senior class. There's a lot of work to be done between August 11th and the home opener against Wesley (#3 in a pre-season poll??) on Sept 4th. All I ask is for a birthday victory in week 2 against Salisbury!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on August 05, 2010, 11:24:20 AM
cnu85, hope all is well with you.  as of now i plan on making the trip down for the game on the 4th.  i will be in touch via message as the game gets closer.  i will have to find you for a little cnu tailgate action.  talk to you later.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on August 06, 2010, 07:14:33 PM
Do you know who left the program?????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 06, 2010, 10:05:06 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on August 06, 2010, 07:14:33 PM
Do you know who left the program?????

who else besides Legister? Also, did anyone catch that very small comment at media day by Kelchner....."a transfer situation"....and if I remember correctly he was referring to an incoming transfer and maybe even RB.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 06, 2010, 11:13:21 PM
Legister left CNU??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on August 07, 2010, 06:49:22 AM
From waht I hear, a whole lot of guys left from last year. It's going to be tuff this year. I say 2-8. After the wesley game they will loose alot more. I always thought CNU should go Div2 or maybe Div 1AA. Get a rivalry with ODU and expand their stadium. If CNU does that they will get some great players out that area and have a powerhouse. Just a thought.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 07, 2010, 12:18:25 PM
These are the last 2 articles from Media Day at MC.  One is the from the Knoxville News and the Blount Today Newspapers.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2010/aug/03/division-iii-pride-in-usa-south/


http://www.blounttoday.com/news/2010/aug/04/media-savvy-mc/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 07, 2010, 08:31:20 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on August 07, 2010, 06:49:22 AM
From waht I hear, a whole lot of guys left from last year. It's going to be tuff this year. I say 2-8. After the wesley game they will loose alot more. I always thought CNU should go Div2 or maybe Div 1AA. Get a rivalry with ODU and expand their stadium. If CNU does that they will get some great players out that area and have a powerhouse. Just a thought.

2-8 in D3 and they should go D2 (where there are very few options) or d1AA? wow. Can't even respond to that comment.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on August 07, 2010, 08:44:35 PM
There is no need. Tell me why you think 2-8 is to far fetch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 07, 2010, 09:57:48 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on August 07, 2010, 08:44:35 PM
There is no need. Tell me why you think 2-8 is to far fetch.

5-5 last year.....75 returning players.....125 in camp. last yr 12 season ending injuries....13 if you count Tunde....he as hurt from game 1....by game 3 a true Fr was playing qb......this year is most experienced team in CNU history....largest senior class on team. Long has been cleared to play. If he was healthy all year last year, we go 7-3.

all of that stuff happened last year and yet still went 5-5. I doubt (hope) injuries don't happen like that again.....so, 2-8 is WAY far fetched.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 07, 2010, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: Allen C on August 06, 2010, 11:13:21 PM
Legister left CNU??

yup
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 07, 2010, 10:03:03 PM
wow!! CNU got points in the pre-season poll!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on August 07, 2010, 11:26:02 PM
a COUPLE OF CORNERS LEFT TOO.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 08, 2010, 06:16:21 PM
Just got on the USA-South new website and saw that Maryville is not even listed on the home page with the rest of the conference schools!!!  When you click to each logo it links up to the school's website.  You can't do this for Maryville.  The only mention about Maryville is when it is listed as an affiliate school.  The old website had MC's logo with the rest of conference's schools. 

So the website home page does not promote Maryville College, but has a picture and story about football Media Day at MC and has WR Wesley Idlette promoting good sportsmanship on its Sportmanship Video Campaign.  Who is NOT promoting good sportsmanship.....

It seems like the conference continues to do things to slight MC.   I hope someone at MC starts making some phone calls to the commisioner's office on Monday!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 08, 2010, 07:57:52 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on August 07, 2010, 11:26:02 PM
a COUPLE OF CORNERS LEFT TOO.

That could be a good thing.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 08, 2010, 07:58:23 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on August 08, 2010, 06:16:21 PM
Just got on the USA-South new website and saw that Maryville is not even listed on the home page with the rest of the conference schools!!!  When you click to each logo it links up to the school's website.  You can't do this for Maryville.  The only mention about Maryville is when it is listed as an affiliate school.  The old website had MC's logo with the rest of conference's schools. 

So the website home page does not promote Maryville College, but has a picture and story about football Media Day at MC and has WR Wesley Idlette promoting good sportsmanship on its Sportmanship Video Campaign.  Who is NOT promoting good sportsmanship.....

It seems like the conference continues to do things to slight MC.   I hope someone at MC starts making some phone calls to the commisioner's office on Monday!!!!!!!!!!!


That's just wrong!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 08, 2010, 09:21:48 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on August 08, 2010, 06:16:21 PM
Just got on the USA-South new website and saw that Maryville is not even listed on the home page with the rest of the conference schools!!!  When you click to each logo it links up to the school's website.  You can't do this for Maryville.  The only mention about Maryville is when it is listed as an affiliate school.  The old website had MC's logo with the rest of conference's schools. 

So the website home page does not promote Maryville College, but has a picture and story about football Media Day at MC and has WR Wesley Idlette promoting good sportsmanship on its Sportmanship Video Campaign.  Who is NOT promoting good sportsmanship.....

It seems like the conference continues to do things to slight MC.   I hope someone at MC starts making some phone calls to the commisioner's office on Monday!!!!!!!!!!!


Checking some other conference sites to see what they do with their affiliate members.

The ODAC does not have Catholic U.'s logo on its home page. As a Catholic alum I am not going to beat down the doors of the ODAC demanding space.

The NJAC has several football affiliates. None are listed with logos on the NJAC home page.

The UMAC has several football affiliates. None are listed with logos on the UMAC home page.

Shall I continue?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 09, 2010, 08:01:59 AM
Thanks CNU85.   The conference had no problem promoting MC on its website for 5 years before the change last week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 09, 2010, 08:09:27 AM
more importantly...i see a small slice of a cnu logo i've never seen before...and it actually looks really nice...anyone seen the whole thing?

i think the new usasac website looks pretty good, even w/o m'ville...to be honest, i thought the usasac was being very generous to treat associate members the way they have for the last few years...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on August 11, 2010, 07:21:50 PM
Averett's kids checked in today.  Alot of optimism for the upcoming season.  Have a freshman class of 59.  Alot of OL (11) and drew well from Florida again (25%of the class, i.e., speed)  Doubt many will contribute in '10 but one never knows.  It will be interesting to see their scrimmage vs. E&H in 2 weeks at home.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on August 12, 2010, 06:26:04 PM
Quote from: narch on August 09, 2010, 08:09:27 AM
more importantly...i see a small slice of a cnu logo i've never seen before...and it actually looks really nice...anyone seen the whole thing?

I have seen it and it does look sharp.  I believe it is for the upcoming season, but I'm not sure when they plan on making it public.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: waspermike on August 12, 2010, 06:40:37 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on August 11, 2010, 07:21:50 PM
Averett's kids checked in today.  Alot of optimism for the upcoming season.  Have a freshman class of 59.  Alot of OL (11) and drew well from Florida again (25%of the class, i.e., speed)  Doubt many will contribute in '10 but one never knows.  It will be interesting to see their scrimmage vs. E&H in 2 weeks at home.
E&H checked in yesterday as well. There are a load of frosh. Not sure how many. I do understand that the Waspers are starting with 31 O-Linemen, which is great. That's because we are really thin there. I am looking forward to the Averett Scrimmage. It was a good test for both teams last year. Does anyone have the date for the scrimmage?  Best of Luck to all..!!!!  WM
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on August 12, 2010, 07:43:23 PM
Averett - E&H scrimmage is 2 weeks from this Saturday, the 28th at Averett.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: waspermike on August 12, 2010, 10:06:19 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on August 12, 2010, 07:43:23 PM
Averett - E&H scrimmage is 2 weeks from this Saturday, the 28th at Averett.
Thanks for the info. My son plays for the Waspers. There is a "homer" that my son played with in high school on the Averett Team. It is always good to see the local boys do well..!! I have followed Averett and was sorry to see that they had couple of down years. It happens! Sounds like things are on the upswing. Best of luck and hope to see you in Danville..!!  Should be a good outing.  WM
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on August 13, 2010, 08:31:48 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 07, 2010, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: Allen C on August 06, 2010, 11:13:21 PM
Legister left CNU??

yup

To bad Legister wont be back but know they have kids coming in that will be anxious to fill the void. Couple of locals that I know of, Evan Moog, played at Jamestown. Kids a fireplug, not real big but plays like a wildman, wants to hit you coming off the bus. Also was a real good linebacker in HS. Put up about 1500 yards his senior season, most of it the hard way plus have a kid, Montrell Johnson coming in from Smithfield, last year was the player of the year in region A. He put up about 3200 yards between his senior and junior year. Again not a big guy but kids a burner, he gets a crack and he's gone. Add them to the current stable and I dont think CNU will have to much trouble finding someone to carry the mail.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 13, 2010, 10:38:43 AM
AUPOP
Not doubting MOOG and wanting to start hitting ASAP but this is college football and the smallest guy will knock your hat off (normally). Hope he gets all he wants and good luck to him. I saw the problem with height challenges for linemen and backers even at NAIA Lees-McRae in 92-93 (when I coached) Even at D3 there are some above 6'4'' OL in the league and they present problems for the short guy when they extend their arms and grab you under the shoulder pads. If he has feet he will make it.

3200 yards for Johnson is impressive. Sounds like from what you say he needs to get the ball in space 10 times a game.

Of course I pull for Narch's boys so hopefully they do not burn them.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 15, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
Dang AUPOP - you know more about what's going on at CNU than I do. I better get on the stick!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 16, 2010, 07:02:18 AM
Ferrum's Coach Dave Davis announces that this will be his last season!

http://www.thefranklinnewspost.com/article.cfm?ID=16922
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on August 16, 2010, 07:21:22 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 15, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
Dang AUPOP - you know more about what's going on at CNU than I do. I better get on the stick!

Naw, just still hit the local Friday night games. Of course I am a bit prejudice about the local kids but you have a couple of good ones there. Moog may remind you of Diggs if he plays on the defensive side of the ball, similiar stature and plays the same way. Johnson, took over for Dyrell Roberts ( Va. Tech). I dont think anybody really noticed D.Rob was gone over at SHS. Says a lot about him right there. Little more size and both are playing D1.

Now if for some reason you have just to much talent coming in let me know, I'll be there with the truck to pick them both up and take them to Danville. No problem.......LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 16, 2010, 12:00:03 PM
ALLEN
Are they hiring from within? Continuity I was thinking with regards to recruiting
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 16, 2010, 10:21:15 PM
That is a tough one to answer...I would imagine that all of that process will be on a far back burner during the season. I am sure that they will not want this to be a distraction.

There are candidates on the staff that would be qualified. IMHO, Ferrum has a very strong coaching staff.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 18, 2010, 01:32:03 PM
just ordered my d3football.com kickoff... (http://www.d3football.com/kickoff/)hope everyone else does, too
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 19, 2010, 09:03:51 PM
Ordered mine too! Go Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 19, 2010, 09:06:55 PM
Quote from: narch on August 18, 2010, 01:32:03 PM
just ordered my d3football.com kickoff... (http://www.d3football.com/kickoff/)hope everyone else does, too

Quote from: Allen C on August 19, 2010, 09:03:51 PM
Ordered mine too! Go Panthers!

Yay! +k. I take back all the bad things I've said about you guys......well, most of them anyway  ;D ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 20, 2010, 02:23:55 PM
Off the subject but that boy on the home page running for Pacific worries me. I know some people that would light his a## up running like that. LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on August 20, 2010, 02:28:31 PM
Ready for some football?????
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 20, 2010, 04:47:31 PM
Pat I agree to a degree on the new site.
Sure the top is a default header but it wasn't out of the question to make each sports header specific to the schools playing that sport.  Though its not mentioned here yet, Agnes Scott and LaGrange are also one sport members.

There are two other things. The statistics page used to go back to year 1 and now just show the last season or current one. That's a loss for those of us who like to dig through numbers. (At least I have print outs of most of it) And the second is as will happen some of the links do strange things with preseason poll links going to wrong sport, etc. Im sure Mike will get all that straightened out as they get found.

Kelchner's comments noted not only that CNU was upping the team size to 125 but that there was a plan in place to expand it to 160 incrementally the next few seasons.

And now we'll lose not only Sypult (19 years) but Davis (17) that leaves Kelchner as the dean come Dec, doesn't it?

More trouble for NCW offense, cut the number of starters returning by 2 on that side of the ball.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 20, 2010, 07:03:27 PM
I think that is right...Kelchner will have seniority as far as length of service as a Head Coach...Davis was an assistant for 10 years before becoming head coach. Interestingly enough, Ferrum began football in 1955, and Norton was the fourth coach. He came on board in 1960. That means there have been 5 coaches total, but only 2 in the last 50 years of a 55 year program......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 21, 2010, 02:12:56 PM
Guess who's back lol?  Been a interesting few months.  I just moved to FL for a great job.  I pretty much get to spend my entire day online, which is pretty awesome.  I don't have internet at my apartment yet.  I love having these free wifi hot spots.

Anyway go GC!! I can't wait to watch some games online.  SU fans, I don't think you guys will finish in last place this year.

If any Maryville fans are going to the GC homecoming game this year, you might see me there.  I plan on flying up that weekend to catch the game.  Even though, I think by then my body will reject weather below 50 degrees.

I hope I can be pretty active on these boards again this year!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on August 21, 2010, 10:35:56 PM
Glad to have you back PSBBG....  Don't know yet if I am planning to make the trip.  Depends on my work schedule.  Where in FL are you?  I've got many relatives in the Tampa area??

Looks like MC did a very good job recruiting offensive and defensive linemen.  The size of both lines have greatly improved.....   What's the latest on the Pride??? 8-)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SafetyGuy on August 22, 2010, 09:57:44 AM
Anyone know why CNU backed out of a scrimmage with HSC?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 23, 2010, 01:56:24 PM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on August 21, 2010, 10:35:56 PM
Glad to have you back PSBBG....  Don't know yet if I am planning to make the trip.  Depends on my work schedule.  Where in FL are you?  I've got many relatives in the Tampa area??
I am in the Ft Myers area.

I am excited to see if the Pride can build off what they did last year.  I haven't really followed the team much since the spring (sorry). We had a rather young offensive squad last year, but they were very exciting to watch.  The defense did lose a number of players.  I know the team has replaced various key players on defense in the past, but they always find away to play well.

I've always said I thought that GC has had some talent on offense in the past.  Enough to be around .500 every year. The offenses of the past would create so many TO's,  it would put the defense in bad spots every game. 

I think having an OC that played on those offenses is a good thing. (He knows what happens when the ball is turned over).  I think he will demand sucess.  Plus, I know him personally,  he is a focused and hardworking guy.  A good coach will get that out of is players. Which I know he will get them to do.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 24, 2010, 02:34:20 PM
Someone mentioned seeing the new CNU logo....here's more info.

http://cnusports.com/news/2010/8/23/GEN_0823102001.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2010/8/23/GEN_0823102001.aspx)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 24, 2010, 06:26:18 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 24, 2010, 02:34:20 PM
Someone mentioned seeing the new CNU logo....here's more info.

http://cnusports.com/news/2010/8/23/GEN_0823102001.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2010/8/23/GEN_0823102001.aspx)
really nice, professional work...no offense to the previous logo designers, but they stunk...these do not
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on August 24, 2010, 06:48:30 PM
After reading the Kickoff assessment of the USA South 2010 season, Pat Coleman and his staff have obviously demonstrated their substantial knowledge with their preseason pick.  Go Averett Cougars!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on August 24, 2010, 09:16:09 PM
Yeah, they backed out because their not ready.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 24, 2010, 09:59:23 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on August 24, 2010, 09:16:09 PM
Yeah, they backed out because their not ready.
they're...a contraction of two words: they and are

and aren't you supposed to be signing your posts with something like "narch is the man"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on August 25, 2010, 07:00:46 AM
ha ha!@#$
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on August 25, 2010, 11:59:30 AM
Quote from: narch on February 25, 2010, 02:39:51 PM
i'll be willing to make a bet...if tunde ogun is drafted this year (in any round), i'll sign each of my football posts with "ogun is a beast" for the duration of the football season...if he isn't, you need to sign each of your posts saying "Narch is the man" (and you need to post at least a dozen times)

do we have a deal?

my predicition...tunde is signed as a free agent and spends a couple of years on a practice squad before moving on...outstanding for any college football player at any level!

Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on February 25, 2010, 03:07:28 PM
OK. Thats cool.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 25, 2010, 01:34:26 PM
Quote from: narch on August 24, 2010, 06:26:18 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 24, 2010, 02:34:20 PM
Someone mentioned seeing the new CNU logo....here's more info.

http://cnusports.com/news/2010/8/23/GEN_0823102001.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2010/8/23/GEN_0823102001.aspx)
really nice, professional work...no offense to the previous logo designers, but they stunk...these do not

Yeah, I like it. I'm getting a sense from different folks I know in the department at CNU that athletics is taking a step up to become more of a National presence in all sports. I get the feeling that everyone is stepping up their game...not just athletes, but the Athletic Dept staff as well. It's a noticeable change!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 25, 2010, 03:55:15 PM

Quotethey're...a contraction of two words: they and are

eye sea yur stille yur olde sellf corectin grammer, em sole glade two bee back :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 25, 2010, 04:34:02 PM
We all need to see a helmet in somebody's sternum soon or we all will go slowly insane.... :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 25, 2010, 05:10:10 PM
Wow I saw Kickoff today, and have to say I was surprised as the difference between The USA South Coaches Poll,  and D3football.com. Averett to win. and NCW third. Ferrum 1-9??? I have to think the coaches poll will be closer...should be a fun season however.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on August 25, 2010, 06:05:22 PM
I think its been well noted that the USAC coaches poll bares a striking resemblance to the previous seasons' final conference standings in most every year. 8-)

Wesleyan has only one returning offensive starter on the line. Thats gotta hurt with a new qb to break in.

Did any of the Murvul folks make it to the scrimmage with Birmingham Southern Tuesday?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 25, 2010, 06:56:34 PM
Quote from: Allen C on August 25, 2010, 05:10:10 PM
Wow I saw Kickoff today, and have to say I was surprised as the difference between The USA South Coaches Poll,  and D3football.com. Averett to win. and NCW third. Ferrum 1-9??? I have to think the coaches poll will be closer...should be a fun season however.

I'm with batterdbard on this one. I didn't have a hand in picking/editing the USA South predictions in any way, and I think the Kickoff picks are going to play out a lot truer than the coach's poll.

Allen, didn't you yourself pick Ferrum on you blog to be 2-8, 1-6? It's not like saying 1-9 is a very big stretch from what you were envisioning.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 25, 2010, 10:59:46 PM
No I picked them to be 4-6...That was the team above them you are referring to. I really think I may have underestimated them. They scrimmaged NC Tech today, and won 27-10. The QB broke an 80 yard run for a TD. It was 24-0 when they put in subs.

NC tech is a prep school for a lot of talented DI prospects that need to get in better physical and academic shape...They are not usually short of talent. I know it was just a scrimmage, but it is a good sign.

Here were the picks I posted on my blog:

http://ferrumfootball.blogspot.com/2010/07/2010-usa-south-predictions.html
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 25, 2010, 11:16:20 PM
Quote from: Allen C on August 25, 2010, 10:59:46 PM
No I picked them to be 4-6...That was the team above them you are referring to.

My apologies for misreading the blog.  :-[

Bottom line, though, Ferrum replaces half of its starters (second lowest # of returnees in the conference) from a team that went .500 last season. That can't bode well, which is sad to say because it will be disappointing if coach has to end his career there on too sour of a note.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 25, 2010, 11:43:10 PM
Your not the only one to read it that way...I think I will lay it out differently next year. :)

You make a good point...I just hope they are at least no worse than last year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 27, 2010, 03:59:38 PM
1 week away.

Went to pickup tickets last night at CNU. They have a nice event. Go pickup tickets, watch part of practice. Listen to a few words from the coach. Mingle with players and coaches. Then EAT - brought up BBQ from North Carolina. Bill's from Wilson, NC. Great food!

CNU has a tough first 4 weeks. At home against #3 Wesley, then on the road for 3 games. Don't return for a home game until October.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on August 28, 2010, 05:35:46 AM
WFU, dont know if you are making the scrimmage today but if so how about an update later. Have to much going on to be able to get down to Danville. Heard earlied in the week that half the starting O line may be setting this one out, not sure if that is still the case. If so sure it will have some effect. Very anxious to hear about the running game. Heard ealier in camp that there was a transfer in that was really turning some heads.

Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on August 29, 2010, 02:52:28 PM
AUPop - was really only there for a brief time for the E&H scrimmage (they didn't get started until 5:30).  For the portion I was there it was basically a practice session for both team, i.e., NFL style when two teams train together. 

At opposite ends of the field were the respective offense and defenses going against each other, 7 on 7 passing, goal line drills, kicking (FG & Extra points).  Couple good pops during those sessions but difficult to judge.  Understood later it was more like a "game scrimmage" and at least one time Averett drove it the lenght of the field, converting several 3rd downs. 

There is a new running back that transferred in, (believe it was Concord, D-II).  Good size to him but really could tell much from the brief time I was there.  He has been very good in practice however.

The expectations should be high but the first game will be a challenge right out of the box.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 29, 2010, 03:37:04 PM
ADM Papi

Dammer sun.....those mullets got too much water.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on August 29, 2010, 07:53:44 PM
Thanks WFU, from what I got today it was a very limited as far as "game play". Not much to talk about although I was told that the AU kicker hit a 56 yarder. Where you at KickerDad, thats got to bring a smile to your face....

Sounds like the o line is pretty banged up. Doubtful Kyle will be back next week, not sure about Phil and guess Kevin is nursing a bad shoulder. Going to make a tuff job a lot tougher next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 29, 2010, 09:40:24 PM
So as for this weeks picks, I thought I would get the ball rolling-

Winner is in Bold

Maryville @ Huntingdon     Should be a good day for the Scots

Hampden - Sydney @ Averett  Tigers too much for the Cougars

Emory and Henry @ Ferrum  A toss up- May be OT. Special Teams crucial

Wesley @ CNU  Wolverines Roll Big

Randolph Macon @ Methodist    Jackets are too strong

NC Wesleyan @ Salisbury  Bishops out matched this time.

Greensboro @ Guilford  Pride survives in a close one

Catholic @ Shenandoah  Hornets win easily
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on August 30, 2010, 08:50:26 AM
Maryville
AU
Ferrum
Wesley
RM
Salisbury
Guilford
Shenandoah
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 30, 2010, 11:25:48 AM
Maryville
Hampden-Sydney-(I guess that means AU probably isn't going to lose much more after that, if they are the predicted conference champs)
Ferrum- I think will win big
Wesley
Randolph-Macon
NCWC-probably should go with Salisbury. 
Greensboro-duh!
Shenandoah

I was in a fender bender this morning.  The accident either knocked screws loose, or knocked some sense into me.  I will blame my picks on that either way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on August 30, 2010, 11:34:07 AM
Picks for Opening Week

Maryville over Huntingdon
H-S over Averett (hurts to pick but AU is not going to be at full strength at a couple of key offensive positions)
E-H over Ferrum
Wesley over CNU
Randy Macon over Methodist
Salisbury over NCWU
Greensboro over Guilford
Shenandoah (Jimmy Stewart didn't lose in the movie) over Catholic
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 30, 2010, 12:02:29 PM
If you guys want to do picks, please use a separate board in the pick'ems section. (It's a whole section under National topics. Create a USAC board if there isn't one already.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on August 30, 2010, 12:47:27 PM
Well finally, NCWC has a new Website! Looks good!
http://www.ncwcsports.com/ :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: waspermike on August 30, 2010, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on August 29, 2010, 07:53:44 PM
Thanks WFU, from what I got today it was a very limited as far as "game play". Not much to talk about although I was told that the AU kicker hit a 56 yarder. Where you at KickerDad, thats got to bring a smile to your face....

Sounds like the o line is pretty banged up. Doubtful Kyle will be back next week, not sure about Phil and guess Kevin is nursing a bad shoulder. Going to make a tuff job a lot tougher next week.
WFU, AUPOP, et al....! Greetings..! I attended the entire scrimmage on Saturday and agree with WFU's assessment completely. From the Wasper perspective, I was really impressed with Averett's q-b and running back. The q-b had good field presense and had an arm like a rifle. The running back was a tank.To be so big, he ran extremely well. If I were a Cougar, I'd worry about the o-line. I understand that there have been some injuries. That will have to be fixed before HSC. They are animals. Is the Averett kicker human? Did I see him kick a 60 yarder? If not, it was close. He'll win some games for you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: waspermike on August 30, 2010, 06:12:03 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on August 29, 2010, 07:53:44 PM
Thanks WFU, from what I got today it was a very limited as far as "game play". Not much to talk about although I was told that the AU kicker hit a 56 yarder. Where you at KickerDad, thats got to bring a smile to your face....

Sounds like the o line is pretty banged up. Doubtful Kyle will be back next week, not sure about Phil and guess Kevin is nursing a bad shoulder. Going to make a tuff job a lot tougher next week.
SORRY...I ran out of room. It was hard for me to tell anything about the Averett D. Wasper first string scored on 1st possession in 5 plays. 4 were passes. Jennings touched to ball only for a 3 yd push to score. The starters got only about 12 reps. Averett D-line is big. They can fill holes. Can they move? I don't know. My amateur assessment is that both Averett and Emory have some goods things to look forward to. It was HOT, but it was FUN!! Best of luck for a great season. WM
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 31, 2010, 08:48:44 AM
NCW must be getting all those speed merchants down by the coast because GC and GC-Q did not even sniff around down there. Speed kills
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on August 31, 2010, 09:23:28 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on August 31, 2010, 08:48:44 AM
NCW must be getting all those speed merchants down by the coast because GC and GC-Q did not even sniff around down there. Speed kills

I have no idea myself at this time who they picked up. Haven't seen a practice or roster.  I have a feeling the offense will be rather young and inexperienced. As much as I would like to agree with the coaches poll, I think it may be a struggle to acheive. Should be an interesting year for all :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on August 31, 2010, 10:31:30 PM
You never know what might happen any given year. Go MU!!! I can't wait to see some football. I might even try to sneak in the locker room and throw on that #2 again. I think I have at least a half in me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 01, 2010, 07:45:46 AM
Rocket
I watched you play for a couple of seasons. I thought you had gone in for Tommy John surgery.  ;) I mean you threw on the run all day son. You had the gun that's for sure

You still coaching?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on September 01, 2010, 08:38:55 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on August 31, 2010, 08:48:44 AM
NCW must be getting all those speed merchants down by the coast because GC and GC-Q did not even sniff around down there. Speed kills

I wouldn't say the Pride hasn't sniffed around down there, but if you are a high school athlete looking to play football.  Which team are you going to choose?  A team that has been fairly successful from the start or a team that has struggled.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 01, 2010, 08:49:21 AM
Yeah, surgery ended my short-lived arena career, but I can still throw it a little. I coached High School ball in Fayetteville for the last four years before giving that up to become a Surface Warfare Officer in the Navy. I'm in Norfolk now so it is just a short drive to most of MU's games. I'm glad I will get to see most of Coach Sy's last season. Anyway, glad to be back for another season. Go MU!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 01, 2010, 09:02:08 AM
SWO!! OMG!! That has to be the most brutal learning experience possible. Now I got another vet (albeit AD) to use incredible acronyms that makes no sense to other humans.  :)

Congrats Ensign or is it LT (JG). Do you have a ship yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 01, 2010, 02:13:32 PM
Still an Ensign. I'm on USS Ramage (DDG 61). We just got back from deployment early August. SWO hasn't been as bad as people made it out to be, but I have a great CO and XO. Looking forward to seeing a little football instead of standing port/ starboard watch sections.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan.Kelly on September 01, 2010, 03:50:25 PM
Hey folks, I'm a student at CNU and I've started up a blog in affiliation with CNUsports.com.  First post went up today, and there will be more to come this week.  Thought you might like to check it out!

Check out the newest post on Captains Corner! Football's scrimmage, and preparation for Saturday's season opener.

http://bit.ly/agZs1t

Also, if anybody has any suggestions, whether it be design or content (granted there's not much content to judge yet), I'd love to hear your input.  Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2010, 04:18:19 PM
Quote from: rocket on September 01, 2010, 08:49:21 AM
Yeah, surgery ended my short-lived arena career, but I can still throw it a little. I coached High School ball in Fayetteville for the last four years before giving that up to become a Surface Warfare Officer in the Navy. I'm in Norfolk now so it is just a short drive to most of MU's games. I'm glad I will get to see most of Coach Sy's last season. Anyway, glad to be back for another season. Go MU!

20 minutes from CNU....if you ever want to come see a game, let me know....I usually have an extra ticket or two from my season tickets.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2010, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: Ryan.Kelly on September 01, 2010, 03:50:25 PM
Hey folks, I'm a student at CNU and I've started up a blog in affiliation with CNUsports.com.  First post went up today, and there will be more to come this week.  Thought you might like to check it out!

Check out the newest post on Captains Corner! Football's scrimmage, and preparation for Saturday's season opener.

http://bit.ly/agZs1t

Also, if anybody has any suggestions, whether it be design or content (granted there's not much content to judge yet), I'd love to hear your input.  Thanks!

How does Kelchner feel about this added publicity? Just curious.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan.Kelly on September 01, 2010, 04:37:23 PM
Well this is very new for everybody so we haven't gotten much feedback at all yet, I'm hoping more of that will start rolling in over the next few weeks as more content is added.  Coach Kelchner didn't have any problems answering my questions this week, but didn't say anything about the blog itself one way or the other.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 01, 2010, 05:17:34 PM
EARL
Well there goes a load of games to the scratch board. What a flippen drag >:(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 01, 2010, 08:35:27 PM
Quote from: rocket on August 31, 2010, 10:31:30 PM
You never know what might happen any given year. Go MU!!! I can't wait to see some football. I might even try to sneak in the locker room and throw on that #2 again. I think I have at least a half in me.
oh...you've got at least 3 quarters in you :)

looks like there won't be a #1 or #2 on the mu roster this year (for those who don't know, those are honorary numbers for offensive and defensive leaders)

will i see you at the game this weekend?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2010, 09:32:30 PM
Quote from: Ryan.Kelly on September 01, 2010, 04:37:23 PM
Well this is very new for everybody so we haven't gotten much feedback at all yet, I'm hoping more of that will start rolling in over the next few weeks as more content is added.  Coach Kelchner didn't have any problems answering my questions this week, but didn't say anything about the blog itself one way or the other.

I figured it was ok. Kyle posted your blog link on facebook. I think it's great stuff! When hoops season gets closer, I'm looking forward to info on new guys and the Lady Captains!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 02, 2010, 03:23:15 AM
Interesting article about the Panthers

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/college/wb/257543
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 02, 2010, 08:35:48 AM
CNU85, I will definitely take you up on that at some point.
Narch, I'll be there if this Earl lets me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 02, 2010, 01:59:18 PM
Quote from: Allen C on September 02, 2010, 03:23:15 AM
Interesting article about the Panthers

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/college/wb/257543
mayo is one heck of an athlete...he'll help ferrum
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 02, 2010, 07:17:48 PM
Another article came out yesterday. Details the difficulties the Ferrum coaching staff is having deciding on a starting QB....Davis indicated that Brubaker...the other QB that is contention to start, is faster than Mayo....Mayo is very fast, so I thought this could not be possible. I have been in contact with a player on the team, and he says that he is about the same as Mayo, certainly no slower than Mayo.

That is encouraging.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 03, 2010, 07:02:43 AM
"difficulties the Ferrum coaching staff is having "

Allen
I bet the rest of the teams wish they were having such a difficulty. :)

Aw......... the problems of deciding between speed merchants.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 03, 2010, 07:31:33 AM
In a way I agree...I do not know much about Brubaker...from what I hear, he is more of a runner than a passer. Mayo can do both, but is working back into the offense, and must have the ability not only to run or pass, but to recognize, and execute...also must be able to lead the team.

Of course they will have the option offense again, and from what I hear, even though Mike Vann will not be back...they are very very very deep at RB.
Here is that second article I referred to:

http://www.thefranklinnewspost.com/article.cfm?ID=17012
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 03, 2010, 07:50:48 AM
I created a new pick'ems topic for the USA South.  Go ahead and put your picks there since we got shooed away from this board  :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 03, 2010, 10:46:12 AM
ALLENC
WRT article.
OL. The number one problem every year for everyone at this level. "partial starters" Sending the message. Coach pulls no punches does he? LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 03, 2010, 01:49:19 PM
You lost me....WRT?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 03, 2010, 01:53:07 PM
With regards to....I think.

Headed to Ferrum!!! Go Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3football101 on September 03, 2010, 03:08:38 PM
Wow, I havent been on this board a quite a long time... However I do love the USA South Conference.  Looks like this is going to be another great year for this conference.  As for my picks, I think is comes down to Averett NCW this year.  I think Averett has the complete package and will be a great football team this year.  NCW may not be as complete but they have more athletes than anyone in the conference.  I could very easily put CNU up there as well but didnt just because I don't know much about them coming into this year, maybe some of you colonels can fill me in?  CNU is the best coached team in the conference in my opinion, so they will always be solid. So as I see it
1) Averett (is Squillini back? He was a great WR)
2) NCW (athletes everywhere... Their defensive line can compete with any dline in D3)
3) CNU (They always have great RBs, they come outta nowhere every year)
4) Shenandoah
        I think the hornets are gonna bounce back this year after a tough year last year of losing so many close games last year.  This team fought hard every game, as I was able to watch them many times on their schools website.  Its amazing how hard they played even at the end of the year when they kept losing 3 point or less ball games.  I think they win those games this year, lucks back on their side???
5) Ferrum (I hear they lost alot, but their ball control game and D is tough)
6) Maryville
       I really want to rank maryville higher, but it seems every time I read up on them they are having to overcome so many injuries.  I think Coach Ierulli is an outstanding defensive coordinator.   Every year though they get done in through injuries, I think it was the first game last year they lost their sophomore QB HUNT to a career ending head injury?  That kid was awesome... could fly and was extremely accurate.  Then Conner (big tough qb) took over and I heard yesterday that he has season ending shoulder surgery and a freshman starting at QB.  They have the best secondary in the conference and that will keep them in most games, but with so many young players in i find it hard for them to compete at the top level.  They are some tough kids tho, the scrappiest football team Ive ever seen.
7) Greensboro
8) Methodist

Whoever represent the USA South in the national playoffs this year, I hope they take it a long way!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on September 04, 2010, 08:40:19 AM
D3football101 - I like your pick of Averett. 

No, Squillini is not back (he played professionally in Finland this year.  For those of you that aren't aware, there is upwards of 100 "professional" teams in Europe playing American style football.  The word "pro" has a different meaning over there compared to the NFL - the guys from the US usually get room & board, $1,000 - $1,500/Month paycheck during the season and may have to take a "job" but if you're 23 or so, no serious obligations, what a way to experience Europe before you have to enter the "real" world.  John Grisham wrote a great fictional book on the subject a few years back called "Playing for Pizza".)

As for replacing Squillini, Averett is looking forward to Jeremy Dixon (preseason DIII All-American) to fill that void.  Not to minimize expectations for Averett but if they get out of the gate slow, i.e., today vs. Hampton-Sydney, one contributing factor may be that they are without last year's starting QB (2nd team USA South in 2009).  He's out for the first 2 games, not returning until they play Washington & Lee, so they will be inexperienced in that position.  Still, if the improved O-line is healthy (had some nagging injuries), their running game should be able to compensate.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on September 04, 2010, 09:10:22 AM
I experienced my first high school football game in FL last night.  The atmosphere was incredible, i've never seen a high school team run out of an inflatable tunnel.

The game is a much faster game than what I've seen in the past for a high school game.  The guy in front of me said these teams weren't even that good. The players weren't that big either.

If the USASouth wants some speed, look to FL thats for sure.  I am not even sure there are many if any d3 schools in FL.

Apparently the QB for the home team is going to USF, i hope they are an option team, because he couldn't throw the ball at all.  It was pretty much QB keepers the entire game.  He did break off an 85 yard run for a TD.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on September 04, 2010, 09:27:45 AM
GuyFormerlyPSBBG - if you look at Averett's roster, about 25% of the players are from Florida, virtually all their key skill players, i.e., speed.  You're also right - Florida's a key recruiting ground because there are so many players and really very few college options in state. 

If a kid doesn't go D-I in state (there are 7 now, UF, FSU, UM, USF, Central, Fla. Atlantic & Fla. Int'l), the only other options are Jacksonville and FAMU.  No D-III there.  Alot of talented Florida kids potentially never go beyond High School ball.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 04, 2010, 01:53:47 PM
Throw in the towel
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 04, 2010, 04:44:35 PM
not too much positive to say about the monarchs on the field today...but the crowd was great, the band was great and the weather was great...i love college football :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 04, 2010, 04:50:32 PM
cnu85, thanks for the hospitality today.  the captains should be proud of the effort today.  they fell behind early and did not quit.  there are plenty of players who want to make plays and they should do well in the league.  good luck next week against salisbury.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 04, 2010, 05:55:37 PM
What a laugh. Took laptop to Knoxville to watch Maryville online as we watched Alcoa alums playing for UK at Roosters and their wireless blocks streaming video. Rigged a cell phone connection and watched a jumpy version of first half.

Scots struggling with Conner out. Story abut that posted on http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20100904/BREAKING/309049998 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20100904/BREAKING/309049998)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 04, 2010, 06:01:24 PM
yep, it got ugly. 54-3.

Might need to swap Ferrum and MC in the preseason predictions.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2010, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 04, 2010, 04:50:32 PM
cnu85, thanks for the hospitality today.  the captains should be proud of the effort today.  they fell behind early and did not quit.  there are plenty of players who want to make plays and they should do well in the league.  good luck next week against salisbury.

Anytime! It was fun. Except for the score. Heard on post game that CNU coach went to Wesley bench to talk to starting qb to see how he was.....kid said probably messed up ACL. Bad news. But with backup QB for Wesley didn't seem like the team missed a step!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on September 04, 2010, 08:50:11 PM
I am sure that 99 yd scoring drive for The Pride is probably the longest in school history.  Nice Drive!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 04, 2010, 09:07:17 PM
cnu85, hurt knee 2 years ago only dinged it last year.  probably not good.  as i told you, they have to tweek the o and they should be fine.  defense is not going to give up much so they wont have to score much.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 04, 2010, 10:30:42 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 04, 2010, 06:01:24 PM
yep, it got ugly. 54-3.

Might need to swap Ferrum and MC in the preseason predictions.
Yes, that was a surprising outcome. Huntingdon's defense did a really good job of not letting MC's two freshman QB's get comfortable with what they were doing. Our offense was pretty shaky early and gave Maryville several chances to put points on the board in the 1st quarter but HC's defense did a great job of holding MC to just a field goal before our offense finally got things straightened out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 04, 2010, 10:57:05 PM
Went out to Ferrum, and saw one heck of a game- Scoreless through three quarters, Ferrum fell in double OT 23-17. Defense looked good for Ferrum, but sort of wore down a bit. Jennings is one fast back. Had over 200 yards.
Mayo had a great game scoring 2 TD, and running for over 100 yards.

Overall, I think Ferrum played well. Some things that could have gone better, FG's were 1 of 3, and a receiver dropped a pass wide open in the end zone. Overall I think they have a lot of room to be optimistic.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on September 04, 2010, 11:05:50 PM
Greensboro is the only winner of the USA-South teams today.  Will it be a down year for USA-South football like basketball was last winter?

Except for Averett, nobody scored over 18pts today.  

Looks like ODAC football will be a tough conference to contend with.

Greensboro (17) Guilford (15)
Catholic (16) Shenandoah (13)
NC Wesleyan (7) Salisbury (13)
Randolph Macon (54) Methodist (14)
Wesley (34) CNU (6)
Hampden-Sydney (45) Averett (30)
Emory & Henry (23) Ferrum (17) 2OT
Maryville (3) Huntingdon (54)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 05, 2010, 08:49:47 AM
My Bishops fell, but we had our opportunity to pull it out in the last 2 minutes.  Young offense should grow from the experience. Contrats to the Sea Hawks :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Teamski on September 05, 2010, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 04, 2010, 07:21:13 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 04, 2010, 04:50:32 PM
cnu85, thanks for the hospitality today.  the captains should be proud of the effort today.  they fell behind early and did not quit.  there are plenty of players who want to make plays and they should do well in the league.  good luck next week against salisbury.

Anytime! It was fun. Except for the score. Heard on post game that CNU coach went to Wesley bench to talk to starting qb to see how he was.....kid said probably messed up ACL. Bad news. But with backup QB for Wesley didn't seem like the team missed a step!

Sorry I missed you yesterday!  If I could get off the camera, I would have tried to seek out your hand!  I guess CNU returned last year's favor with the injuries to the QB's.  Fate has a sick sense of humor, I guess.  Good luck this season!

-Ski
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: waspermike on September 05, 2010, 08:43:52 PM
Quote from: Allen C on September 04, 2010, 10:57:05 PM
Went out to Ferrum, and saw one heck of a game- Scoreless through three quarters, Ferrum fell in double OT 23-17. Defense looked good for Ferrum, but sort of wore down a bit. Jennings is one fast back. Had over 200 yards.
Mayo had a great game scoring 2 TD, and running for over 100 yards.

Overall, I think Ferrum played well. Some things that could have gone better, FG's were 1 of 3, and a receiver dropped a pass wide open in the end zone. Overall I think they have a lot of room to be optimistic.
Allen, I was at the game yesterday and I think that you should be as proud of your Panthers as I am my Waspers. I got to the game late. There was some kind of festival/flea market going on in Hillsville. It took about 1.5 hrs to get through the mess. I don't know why the Panthers were picked in the bottom half of the Conference. Mayo, and the running back (I can't remember his name) present multiple threats. Either is capable of breaking one. Mayo can sling it a mile. The speed on your D was amazing. It was a cleanly played game with great sportsmanship. Good things are coming your way.! WM
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 05, 2010, 11:57:15 PM
WM-
Thanks for the kind words toward FC...They are pretty strong, but have issues that can improve. Mayo can throw it, but the timing, and accuracy need to improve...and they will.  I was happy overall with the Ferrum D, even though, Jennings still gave us fits....I had never seen him play.....The man can really turn on the after burners.

The back I think you were talking about was 37...Harris. He is really good.
Cant leave out special teams. Punt to the two yard line, blocked FG, and a record tying 47 yard FG. Overall I was pleased, I think they will get better.

Good luck to you guys-
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 07, 2010, 02:07:36 PM
Ferrum was my upset special. Damn Panthers. Looks like they will be good after all
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 07, 2010, 09:02:36 PM
I have them at 4-6...That may be pessimistic...They have a really good core group, and I think time will help them. They have plenty of running backs, even without M. Vann. Their secondary looked better to me, but still gave up 145 yards passing. They did get an int., and did not give up a TD through the air.
Entire D Line is back...They are strong....may not have stopped Jennings like they wanted, but that had more to do with his ability, rather than the defense.
If Mayo stays healthy, look for him to really be a factor...Reminds me of Jermaine Pitts.
I am cautiously optimistic  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on September 08, 2010, 10:10:59 AM
Quote from: Allen C on September 07, 2010, 09:02:36 PM
I have them at 4-6...That may be pessimistic...They have a really good core group, and I think time will help them. They have plenty of running backs, even without M. Vann. Their secondary looked better to me, but still gave up 145 yards passing. They did get an int., and did not give up a TD through the air.
Entire D Line is back...They are strong....may not have stopped Jennings like they wanted, but that had more to do with his ability, rather than the defense.
If Mayo stays healthy, look for him to really be a factor...Reminds me of Jermaine Pitts.
I am cautiously optimistic  ;D


Last year I was at game against GC.  How many returning starters do they have? Even if they only have 10 players returning, they should have a solid year. They were a solid group last year. 6-4 is realistic.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 08, 2010, 01:44:31 PM
6-4. Sometimes legacy of knowing your school has been a pretty tough customer year end year out will give you an extra win. Pride helps too. I know from experience if you beat them or lose to them; they will hit you. That's what you got to look forward to.

Getting hit damn hard. At 54 I cannot hit myself hard.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 09, 2010, 06:29:29 PM
They have a fair amount coming back, but I do not have the exact #. Key losses from last year included QB Matt Dobson, RB Mike Vann, 3 O linemen, 1WR 2 LB's and they only have 1 in the secondary returning. Sort of a young team, but they are solid. Atomic football has them at 5-5, I say 4-6, D3football has them at 1-9...hope they are more than a little off.

It will be interesting to see what happens this week. Ferrum and Averett I think are open.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on September 09, 2010, 08:00:20 PM
Averett is open this week.  Gives the young freshman QB another week to prepare for Guilford until the starter comes back against Washington & Lee.  It's a shame that has happened because although Averett may not have won against HSC last week, it sure won't have been 45 - 7 going into the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 09, 2010, 08:26:59 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on September 09, 2010, 08:00:20 PM
Averett is open this week.  Gives the young freshman QB another week to prepare for Guilford until the starter comes back against Washington & Lee.  It's a shame that has happened because although Averett may not have won against HSC last week, it sure won't have been 45 - 7 going into the 4th quarter.

WFU: What happened with your starter? He was listed in the game notes, but there was no mention about why he didn't wind up playing on Saturday. Someone dropped me a note that said he didn't play, but that was it. No reason why. And the AU website sadly didn't mention it at all.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 10, 2010, 03:16:20 PM
Ferrum President Dr. Jennifer Braaten announced today that all approvals necessary from the Board of Trustees have been received, and that the College will hold an official groundbreaking for the new Hank Norton Athletic Center Saturday Oct. 2nd,  just before the homecoming game. Expected completion will be near the end of 2011.
Here is the press release:

Ferrum College to Break Ground on Hank Norton Center
New athletic facility will offer state of the art training and fitness space,
classrooms and staff offices.

Ferrum, Va. (September 10, 2010) – Ferrum College announced plans today for a new athletic center to be named for retired coach Hank Norton, Ferrum's renowned former athletic director and championship football coach. The $5.5 million dollar facility will serve the men's and women's outdoor athletic teams and offer state of the art training facilities, a weight room, classrooms and offices for coaching staff.

"We are so pleased to add the Hank Norton Center to the outstanding facilities Ferrum offers to our students," said Ferrum College President Jennifer Braaten. "The Center will offer enhanced opportunities for all of our student-athletes, including space for classroom instruction in the areas of athletic training, sports medicine and health sciences, and additional offices for our dedicated coaching staff. For the large numbers of our students who participate in athletics, the Hank Norton Center will be a welcome and much needed addition to campus."

"This is an important step in the history of Ferrum College," said Sam Lionberger, Jr., chair of the Board of Trustees. "We are we adding a first class facility to our campus and at the same time honoring a legendary coach, mentor and friend of the Ferrum family. This project signifies the commitment from the trustees to the president, faculty, staff, alumni and especially current students to stay ahead of the curve and increase Panther pride."
The 29,000 square foot facility, designed by Mark W. Smith AIA of Craddock Cunningham Architectural Partners, features a brick façade and will be located adjacent to Adams Stadium. Frith Construction Company of Martinsville has been awarded the construction contract.   The ground floor will house classrooms, locker space and a weight room, while the first floor will feature the Ferrum College Sports Hall of Fame and house offices for coaches, a kitchenette, and shower facilities for referees and other game officials.

"A facility like the Hank Norton Center will allow us to better train our current student- athletes," said Athletic Director Abe Naff. "And it will give us a better opportunity to recruit students who want to continue their athletic careers after high school. In this day and age student athletes are looking for this type of facility when they choose their college."
Women's softball coach, Vickie Van Kleeck agreed, saying, "We want to continue Ferrum's great success in Division III athletics. This will help us recruit and serve the best students for the program."

Hank Norton, who served as head football coach from 1960 to 1993, said he was both honored and pleased. "I've had more honors than I deserve," said Norton, from his home in Deltaville. "This isn't about me. It's about Ferrum College. We've come so far from the days when our punter stood in the middle of Route 40 in order to kick the ball. This is a great accomplishment for the College." Norton won four national championships at Ferrum when it was a Junior College. At the Division III level Norton's teams enjoyed 5 undefeated regular seasons, and 9 seasons with just one loss. He served as Athletic Director from 1965 to1985 and from 1989 to1993.

Work on the Hank Norton Center will begin immediately following a ceremonial ground breaking, scheduled for at 1 p.m. on October 2, just prior to the Ferrum Panther's homecoming matchup with North Carolina Wesleyan College. The project is scheduled for completion in late 2011.

Videotaped statements from President Braaten and Coach Norton are available on the Ferrum College You Tube channel. It can be viewed by visiting www.ferrum.edu and clicking on the Ferrum College YouTube channel.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 10, 2010, 03:25:07 PM
Hank!!
Well done
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 10, 2010, 11:01:40 PM
Sorry folks-

I know I am almost the only Ferrum supporter on the board...(except for Ryan) but this is a BIG DEAL!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: waspermike on September 11, 2010, 12:11:13 AM
Quote from: Allen C on September 10, 2010, 11:01:40 PM
Sorry folks-

I know I am almost the only Ferrum supporter on the board...(except for Ryan) but this is a BIG DEAL!!!
Allen, I love you. How is that for a little LOVE! I ain't really crazy about Ferrum because they always fight my Waspers tooth and nail! It is a great rivalry. This IS a big deal, and I am really happy for Ferrum. I think back 3/4 years ago when E&H announced the stadium expansion. The work done so far has done alot for the morale of the school, athletic teams and fans. Ferrum will reap great rewards from this announcement. Congratulations!! WM
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on September 11, 2010, 04:00:05 PM
Another not so good Saturday for USA-South vs. ODAC conference:

Shenandoah (31) Bridgewater (38)

Hampden-Sydney (21) NCW (19)

Emory & Henry (28) Greensboro (6)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 11, 2010, 07:05:57 PM
Well CNU is gettin BLASTED. How does a QB have 140+ of total offense in the first half. Riddle me that batman?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on September 11, 2010, 08:14:41 PM
Looks like a rough week for the USA South out of conference performance.  I guess we're the ACC of Division III.  After VPI lost today to James Madison (I'm old enough to remember when Va Tech was called that), I wonder if Beamer is going to try to schedule ODAC or USA South schools next year.  If he trys I hope the AD's insist on a home & home.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 11, 2010, 08:37:02 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on September 11, 2010, 08:14:41 PM
Looks like a rough week for the USA South out of conference performance.  I guess we're the ACC of Division III.  After VPI lost today to James Madison (I'm old enough to remember when Va Tech was called that), I wonder if Beamer is going to try to schedule ODAC or USA South schools next year.  If he trys I hope the AD's insist on a home & home.
That's funny!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on September 11, 2010, 08:59:01 PM
Centre (35) Maryville (0)

Salisbury (58) CNU (10)

Methodist (14) Guilford (7) ... at the 1/2


Looks like USA-South football is very down this year.

The conference is just (1-12) overall not including Methodist game that is at the 1/2.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 11, 2010, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on September 11, 2010, 07:05:57 PM
Well CNU is gettin BLASTED. How does a QB have 140+ of total offense in the first half. Riddle me that batman?
talent, joker...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 11, 2010, 09:56:10 PM
the monarchs responded well tonight, getting a 26 - 21 road win vs. guilford - murphy was a stud...17-24, 200 yards, 4 td's through the air and 13 carries for 39 yards - and he made big plays when the monarchs needed them

big ups to the guilford camera crew...the broadcast was outstanding!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 11, 2010, 10:10:11 PM
That is true. Plus the players that left the program for whatever reason. A 150+ in camp doesn't mean you have talent if the players aren't up to snuff. Plus you have that 1970's play calling. Need to make some changes and fast. Need to run a spread. The running game is not there. Really nothing is there. Someone will be out again if changes aren't made. I said 3-7. Might come true.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on September 12, 2010, 09:21:19 AM
Sounds like the "Captains" are "abandoning ship".  But CNU should have a "life preserver" thrown to them in their next game with Frostburg (but Vegas has the early line as a "pick 'em").
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 12, 2010, 01:43:34 PM
I've seen many CNU games since 2001, but none worse than yesterday. When we played Wesley last week I figured we were just out matched. Yesterday we were out played. CNU has talent, lots of talent. The problem is, the talent isn't being shown on the field. We have too many kids on offense playing positions they don't normally play. Why? Because they are so talented you have to get them on the field. But, having said that, this is not the thing to do. I'm not a coach and I don't get to grade film. So, here is just one ignorant man's opinion.

The D is fast and in many positions pretty good. They need help, though. Here's what I do - put Matt Long at Safety where, in my opinion, had he stayed here for 4 years he becomes All-American. However, can he play S with that knee brace? Worth a shot. The D needs him.

CNU has 2 backup QBs playing RB or WR or whatever. Put in #12 to start at QB. Christian Woeful-Monsevais (I know I just hacked that name to pieces, sorry). Let him put his big boy pants on and become a college QB - which is what he was recruited to do.

WILDCAT with #5 and #7. Make them WR. Put the Va Union transfer kid in at RB
along with those 2 HS studs they have on the bench. Again - big boy pants time. Heck the transfer kid is big...I think 6-3 237.

Figure out a blocking scheme for the O-line that works. Whatever they are doing now is not working. Definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different outcome. We've been outscored 92-16 this year, let's try something different for game #3.

Oh - and before game starts next week, stay on sidelines and shut the yappers....do the talking on the field when the clock is ticking. That was stupid even if you win. But when you can't back it up to the tune of 58-10.....time to get humble publicly and ticked off inside.

If there is one thing we have in our CNU team is pride! The players, along with me, should be embarrassed. Let's turn that into a motivating factor and turn things around.

And the coaches need to get the team in a position so that the players can be successful. The defensive scheme is just not impressing me. And more importantly, not impressing anybody else on the schedule.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 12, 2010, 01:48:29 PM
CNU is 2-4 in away games in which I attend. I'm not going to anymore!!! CNU has gievn up 50+ points 3 times in their history, all road games. I've been to 2 of those games.

From now on, you will only see me at POMOCO stadium!  :D

If any fans from teams playing CNU at home want to pay my travel expenses to include lodging and all meals........just let me know!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 12, 2010, 05:13:22 PM
cnu85, i feel your pain.  the team i saw 2 weeks ago was not that good, but they should not get pasted by salisbury.  i believe i told you that the d may have trouble with the o that salisbury runs.  good luck the rest of the year and maybe i see you in salem.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on September 12, 2010, 07:53:23 PM
CNU85 - you've always been a supporter of the coaching staff so I doubt that they forgot everything overnight.  I have no idea but possibly is the talent level really is not there. 

The other key element might be the team chemistry, is it lacking?  We've all seen teams with "talent" no meet expectations because the chemistry may not be there.  At the same time, we've all seen teams with what is perceived as marginal talent, excel as a team.

I will admit - I chuckled at that  comments earlier in the year that the CNU coach wants to build it's roster upwards of 150 players.  For what?  Far too many.  There's no way a squad that large can practice effectively.  If its only the #1's & #2's getting all the reps, the probability of discontent on the team will grow (particularly when its not winning).

If the coach is as good as its believed, the talent is supposedly there and the team doesn't win, then probably the mix on the roster may not be right.  On the other hand, the problem could be as simple as with the success the program experienced earlier, possibly the recruiting hasn't been as aggressive and the talent simply isn't there.  Or possibly a key assistant left.  Regardless, none of our schools are like Alabama or Texas were they "select" talent, not recruit.  Regardless of the true reason(s), it sounds like CNU may have a down year.  It happens.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 12, 2010, 08:06:14 PM
Somehow schools such as Mount Union, Mary Hardin-Baylor and St. John's manage to get by with more than 150 players in practice.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 12, 2010, 09:53:55 PM
WFU - all good points. Very good. A few years ago Defensive Coordinator David Legg left....for University of Richmond. He's now wearing a National Championship ring! Another former CNU assistant is at USC - the one out in L.A. Not sure how effective the one guy was that is now at USC....but Legg was a HUGE loss!

Your comments on chemistry are interesting. I think it is good now. But as we all know - when the L's start collecting then you really find out what kind of team you have!

I'll keep pulling for the Captains and for Coach Kelchner. I think we, as fans of CNU (and the athletic department and administration) are wnting CNU to take it to the next level in all sports. I think, with those expectations, there will be frustrations along the way. I'm keeping the faith.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on September 13, 2010, 08:38:02 AM
CNU85 - you can never underestimate the loss of good assistants.  Just look at when the decline of Florida State began, it occurred when both Amato left for the head job at NC State and Reicht left for the head position at Georgia.  Both in the same year.  As good an ole' boy Bobby was (and is), the program never recovered has hasn't been elite since they left (they demonstrated that point again this past weekend vs. Oklahoma).

Pat - as for the comment that Mt. Union and a couple of other schools have 150+ players.  That's all well and good, there are always exceptions, plus in traditionally winning programs, kids want to be part of the program (and it really doesn't cost the school much with no athletic scholarships, i.e., just the cost of uniforms, etc) to have them on the team since most of those kids are paying their own way. 

My point is simple- in D-III schools, with limited staffs (most schools have only a couple of paid assistants and a grad assistant or two, plus the Head Coach ususally doubles as a coordinator).  Once the season starts, the primary focus is on the 1's & 2's.  That's 44 kids.  If they have 2 deep scout teams, that's a total of 88 kids really getting any appreciable work.  The rest, they really aren't going to have the opportunity to develop their skills that much.  The resources/time just isn't there.  That's one of the reasons as you know its not uncommon to see a freshman class of 50 - 70 kids but attrition takes its total and most teams have a senior class of about 15 or so.  Having large numbers benefit the coaches, looking for talent, not the players looking for an opportunity to develop and play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 13, 2010, 10:33:19 AM
This is true. I do think the teams with larger rosters have a few more assistants to help with that process (if you're bringing in that many tuition-paying bodies, it would pay for itself) and a handful of JV games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 13, 2010, 12:02:52 PM
Once again we  had our opportunities, but fell short. However, the offense is growing up. If we can put together a slight running game with that young offensive line, we can be much stronger. Kudos to the freshman QB, Jordan Vann. If he stays with us, he will be awsome as he grows. contrats to our coaching staff, they are bringing in good, athletic,  kids. Now all we have to do is get this town to show the support the kids need and deserve! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 13, 2010, 02:26:51 PM
Freshmen and JV games are the best for the larger teams. But when the larger teams dress on Saturday (and much smaller when traveling) somebody is in the stands. That does tend to create some intersting practices. Nobody is taking a play off. Taking a play off could mean scout team!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on September 13, 2010, 03:10:47 PM
Bishop64,

I was very impressed with the way that NCW played Saturday.  They could have "mailed in" the second half but they fought hard all day and had a chance to send it to overtime at the end.  The freshman quarterback was very poised in the second half.  He took what the defense was giving.  The whole team played hard and represented the school well.  Good luck with the rest of your season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 13, 2010, 04:52:50 PM
Quote from: narch on September 11, 2010, 09:56:10 PM
the monarchs responded well tonight, getting a 26 - 21 road win vs. guilford - murphy was a stud...17-24, 200 yards, 4 td's through the air and 13 carries for 39 yards - and he made big plays when the monarchs needed them

big ups to the guilford camera crew...the broadcast was outstanding!
To paraphrase Oklahoma basketball when talking about Sooner football, "We want to have a Quaker football team our video crew can be proud of."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 13, 2010, 07:57:35 PM
It's simple and plain CNU does not have the talent or overall heart it used too. There are some damn good coaches in that locker room and they will fall on the sword but they don't have the studs anymore. Maybe you got a couple here and there but as a whole it is not there. The Gulls were a below 500 ball club last year and there is no reason why we got beat the way we did if we had talent. It is sad to see but it looks like our best football years are behind us. If you are a CNU fan and you have gone to Pomoco in the past you know exactly what I am talking about. Talent is one thing but you have to have players that want to compete and want to go out and dominate other teams and that dog mentality is not there at all.  I love this program because I help build it and I probably want them to be more successful than they want it for themselves but I have been utterly disappointed in this team for the last few years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on September 13, 2010, 09:21:06 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on September 13, 2010, 07:57:35 PM
It's simple and plain CNU does not have the talent or overall heart it used too. There are some damn good coaches in that locker room and they will fall on the sword but they don't have the studs anymore. Maybe you got a couple here and there but as a whole it is not there. The Gulls were a below 500 ball club last year and there is no reason why we got beat the way we did if we had talent. It is sad to see but it looks like our best football years are behind us. If you are a CNU fan and you have gone to Pomoco in the past you know exactly what I am talking about. Talent is one thing but you have to have players that want to compete and want to go out and dominate other teams and that dog mentality is not there at all.  I love this program because I help build it and I probably want them to be more successful than they want it for themselves but I have been utterly disappointed in this team for the last few years.


WHY would CNU not have the talent?  For the Love of God, CNU has the best of everything and is the most affordable school in the USA-South.

In my opinion, CNU should be contending for the USA-South title year in and year out in every sport.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 13, 2010, 09:28:07 PM
Quote from: USA-South_Fan on September 13, 2010, 09:21:06 PM
WHY would CNU not have the talent?

Just a guess, but the waning of CNU's dominance appears to coincide with the rise of ODU's football team on the south side of Hampton Roads. Roughly 35 guys on ODU's roster (more than a third of the whole team) come from the metropolitan area that encompasses both schools.

I have to believe that many of them would have strongly considered CNU if ODU and its new football team were not available. That's a talent drain right there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on September 13, 2010, 10:27:06 PM
Quote from: Allen C on September 13, 2010, 10:17:21 PM
Could the addition of football at ODU be hurting CNU?  Maybe not, but I would think it thins the local talent pool some.

But don't the CNU coaches have the entire state of VA to recruit from as well as the Carolina area? ... not just the Hampton Roads Metro area.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 13, 2010, 11:15:04 PM
Quote from: USA-South_Fan on September 13, 2010, 10:27:06 PM
But don't the CNU coaches have the entire state of VA to recruit from as well as the Carolina area? ... not just the Hampton Roads Metro area.

Yes, they do, but there are a lot of football-playing schools in Virginia competing for those kids. And lot of small schools draw students from their own neck of the woods. CNU essentially used to have a monopoly on students who wanted to remain in the Hampton Roads area and attend a traditional college setting (I say "traditional" because some students may not want to go to the historically black colleges in the region).

Bottom line, as I said earlier, ODU snagged about three dozen players who could have more than conceivably competed for a spot on CNU's team. There are bound to be some playmakers in that pool that CNU does not have.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 14, 2010, 12:35:02 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 13, 2010, 11:15:04 PM
Quote from: USA-South_Fan on September 13, 2010, 10:27:06 PM
But don't the CNU coaches have the entire state of VA to recruit from as well as the Carolina area? ... not just the Hampton Roads Metro area.

Yes, they do, but there are a lot of football-playing schools in Virginia competing for those kids. And lot of small schools draw students from their own neck of the woods. CNU essentially used to have a monopoly on students who wanted to remain in the Hampton Roads area and attend a traditional college setting (I say "traditional" because some students may not want to go to the historically black colleges in the region).

Bottom line, as I said earlier, ODU snagged about three dozen players who could have more than conceivably competed for a spot on CNU's team. There are bound to be some playmakers in that pool that CNU does not have.
All ODU has to do to impact CNU football is to get the 2-3 Hampton Roads players each year that would be stellar D-III players, to get a little Playing Time at ODU.

Losing 10-12 players out of the top 44 is a killer!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 14, 2010, 06:39:46 AM
They need to go D2 OR D1AA. Give the schlorships. Come off the money or their problems continue. Only 3000+ for the first home game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 14, 2010, 09:25:48 AM
I find it difficult to see the recruiting situation at CNU to be much more difficult than say a Methodist University, NCWC, Guilford, and Greensboro in NC.  or any of the other Div III schools in Virginia.  In NC There are 5 Div.1A, 7 Div. IAA, 14 Div. II and 4 Div III.  That does not include the Virginia or SC schools in all Divisions that recruit in NC.  Recruiting is difficult for all Div. III schools; especially schools located closer to the scholarship programs. If you look at the rosters of NCWC or Methodist, You will find only a minimum number of players within a 50-60 mile radius of there location. The secret has to be the effort put into recruiting, regardless of the school. As an old saying goes, if the fish aren't biting here, try another spot! But then again, what do I know :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: skunks_sidekick on September 14, 2010, 09:57:55 AM
Hello All You USA ers!

I have been reading this discussion with interest, and felt the need to chime in. 

As a follower of Mount Union football for quite a while, I can tell you that having a large roster is a very important tool in maintaining a successful program.  For Mount, many times their best competition is at practice throughout the week.  There is always kids waiting in the wings, and willing to work their arse off for the chance to play on Saturday.  Coach Kehres would prefer NOT to have 240 kids on his roster, but he has always kept to his belief that if a kid is willing to come out and work hard, even with little chance of playing time, who is he to tell him "no".  The freshman/JV team (s) really aid in keeping the younger guys engaged, and interested.  These kids are told (with a few exceptions) that they should not expect to play before they are juniors, and that's just the "Mount way". 

Having said all that, I am somewhat surprised that CNU isn't consistently better year in and year out.  My son (who is a freshman in high school) thought it was very cool that there is a D-III school near Virginia Beach (he has vacationed there a few times).  We ended up getting online, looking at the campus photos, read about the very reasonable tuition, and came away with a very favorable impression.  It seems like recruiting to that school should be easier than many other like schools in the area. 


I think it really comes down to the coach/coaches selling the program and school, and backing up the sales pitch with results.  Mount was very average before Coach Kehres became the head coach.  Having the "right guy" makes all the difference in the world.  Oh, and one more thing.  As good as a recruiting hotbed as Ohio can be, Mount has had great success in recent years recruiting Florida.  Evidently they just grow really fast kids in that state.   8-)

A certain freshman RB/LB is keeping his eye on CNU's football team.  Maybe in a few years CNU can add Ohio as one of the states its successfully recruited.   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 14, 2010, 10:55:55 AM
Quote from: Bishop64 on September 14, 2010, 09:25:48 AM
I find it difficult to see the recruiting situation at CNU to be much more difficult than say a Methodist University, NCWC, Guilford, and Greensboro in NC.  or any of the other Div III schools in Virginia. 

I don't think it's more difficult at CNU than anywhere else, I just think that it used to be a little easier for CNU than the others. With the addition of ODU, I just believe that that has helped level the USA South recruiting universe and forced CNU to work a little harder at getting its share of the abundance of talent from the Hampton Roads area.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 14, 2010, 11:31:44 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 14, 2010, 10:55:55 AM
Quote from: Bishop64 on September 14, 2010, 09:25:48 AM
I find it difficult to see the recruiting situation at CNU to be much more difficult than say a Methodist University, NCWC, Guilford, and Greensboro in NC.  or any of the other Div III schools in Virginia.

I don't think it's more difficult at CNU than anywhere else, I just think that it used to be a little easier for CNU than the others. With the addition of ODU, I just believe that that has helped level the USA South recruiting universe and forced CNU to work a little harder at getting its share of the abundance of talent from the Hampton Roads area.

Now that, I can agree on. A good example might be the situation with Methodist. When Campbell decided to
crank up football again, It probably affected Methodist. If it has not, it more than likely will in the future. I do know of one kid who was planning tp attend NCWC untill Chowan went scholarship. He ended up there. I guess the point I was making is it is never easy for D III to recruit. Sometimes you have to think out of the box. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 14, 2010, 11:57:58 AM
Well....I think it is harder for the "psedo mini Dukes" (or those who try to be like Duke when recruiting) than CNU. It should be easier for the CNU. Should.

I will not mention those who think they are mini Dukes but they just kill themsleves running for the 3.5 GPA player. Clue: they are in NC.

I like the MC and GC-Pride approach to players. The normal well rounded guy. Not saying anything about CNU as I know little about the school.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 14, 2010, 01:29:12 PM
See ya, Good By! Oh, by the way....what's wrong with a 3.5 GPA"? Just asking....
One used up 70yr old Vietnam Vet, speciial forces, just asking a question.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 14, 2010, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on September 14, 2010, 01:29:12 PM
what's wrong with a 3.5 GPA"? Just asking....

I took the previous comment to mean that a 3.5 GPA is a pretty high standard for schools to shoot for. Nothing "wrong" with that per se, but it may help their teams if they get well-rounded kids who are good in a variety of things (leadership, extracurriculars, etc.) but maybe not just intensely GPA smart.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 14, 2010, 08:22:39 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 14, 2010, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on September 14, 2010, 01:29:12 PM
what's wrong with a 3.5 GPA"? Just asking....

I took the previous comment to mean that a 3.5 GPA is a pretty high standard for schools to shoot for. Nothing "wrong" with that per se, but it may help their teams if they get well-rounded kids who are good in a variety of things (leadership, extracurriculars, etc.) but maybe not just intensely GPA smart.


Ryan, I took it it mean the same thing.  Maybe I didn't phrase it properly. I was attempting to make a"tongue in cheek" comment to emphasize the fact that grades are important and should be considered. If I offended anyone, I apologize. It was not meant in that tone. My "see you later" and "good Bye" only infered that I was signing off. I agree that a well  rounded kid should be considered, the fact is Division III is ,"in  my personal opinion", the only Division that truly empahasis grades above football. :) :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 14, 2010, 08:54:53 PM
Oopth. I didn't realize that your question was meant tongue-in-cheek. :-\

My bad. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on September 14, 2010, 10:00:58 PM
What I find interesting is the discussion regarding the challenges of recruiting for the DIII schools, particularly in the NC & Va Beach area & the complaint that the larger local programs are taking the kids.  To a lesser degree, its not much like the challenges the ACC faces vs. the SEC, i.e., the best ACC area kids almost always choose USC, UGA, UT, etc over an NC/VA ACC school.

The real issue (and I may offend some here) is that while the NC High School football has improved in recent years, its not on a par with other states overall.  That equates to less talent available for the DI schools and it filters down to the lower ranks.

The only solution (although it may be difficult for some schools) is to expand it's recruiting area.  For instance, Averett has made a strategic decision to heavily recruit in Florida, 25%+ of their roster comes from that state (and trust me, Danville isn't on anyone's #1 destination list) because:

1)  There is an abundance of talent there
2)  There is limited options to play after HS if you're not offered a D-I scholarship.

Southern schools have a lot to offer, if they expand their base, i.e., possibly up Notrh, you might get more talent.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 15, 2010, 06:12:01 AM
While I agree that an argument can easily be made for the impact of say an ODU on a CNU situation, I also wonder about (look out- getting ready to go in a little different direction) facilities of the schools. The on campus facilities and the surrounding area, have to play a role. I have not been to but three campuses in the USA South... Ferrum, Shenandoah, and CNU. I am planning on going to Averett this year, but on the whole, I understand that there are some USA South schools that either have fairly poor facilities, or have to play at high schools in their area. (I know this has been hashed out many times).

My questions are this...What can be done to make the USA South a more competitive conference on a national level, and what role does the USA South conference office play in this endeavor? Is everything left up to the individual schools? Are there initiatives that other conferences are using for facilities, recruiting, and athlete retention that the USA South could implement?

I live in Williamsburg VA and hate to try to make comparisons between DIII, and FCS schools, but the Colonial Athletic Association has six teams in the FCS top twelve, and seven in the top twenty five. All from one conference. Could this be because each individual school has done a great job recruiting...I am sure so, but has there been input/guidance, or a marketing campaign for the schools in the conference possibly initiated by the conference office? Just wondering if Rita Wiggs and company can or maybe cannot play a bigger role in the conference's success?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 15, 2010, 07:37:03 AM
To a used up SF Trooper from a washed up Ranger:

nothing wrong with a 3.5 in general. that's great; however making that your cut point for an athlete does not help your cause. As Tipps and WFU intimate; get the well rounded. If I am reading them correctly.

As I do not want to get into well documented discussions about grades and schools I will say that sometimes getting a kid off the street is a little more important. I rather have 150 on a squad. That would mean they are not in too much trouble.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 15, 2010, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 15, 2010, 07:37:03 AM
To a used up SF Trooper from a washed up Ranger:

nothing wrong with a 3.5 in general. that's great; however making that your cut point for an athlete does not help your cause. As Tipps and WFU intimate; get the well rounded. If I am reading them correctly.

As I do not want to get into well documented discussions about grades and schools I will say that sometimes getting a kid off the street is a little more important. I rather have 150 on a squad. That would mean they are not in too much trouble.



We have no dissagreement on that point at all. In fact when you limit yourself to such a cut off, you are, in fact limiting your program because the 3.5 GPA is more the rarity than the norm. It's unfortunate, but true. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 15, 2010, 02:20:17 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on September 14, 2010, 06:39:46 AM
They need to go D2 OR D1AA. Give the schlorships. Come off the money or their problems continue. Only 3000+ for the first home game.
and how would this help cnu become more competitive? do you think for a minute that cnu would be able to keep up with jmu/richmond/w&m on the football field any time in the next decade? and who cares about d2...really?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 15, 2010, 02:41:04 PM
Come on Narch. Stop being PC. Spit out your thoughts. LOL

And James Madison smitted VPI...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 15, 2010, 02:50:38 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 15, 2010, 02:41:04 PM
And James Madison smitted VPI...

Must we bring that up?  :'(

:)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wasper68 on September 15, 2010, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 15, 2010, 02:50:38 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 15, 2010, 02:41:04 PM
And James Madison smitted VPI...

Must we bring that up?  :'(

:)

HOKIE, HOKIE, HOKIE High
Someone wipe the tear from Ryan's eye!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 15, 2010, 03:58:20 PM
wasper you made spit out my diet coke :)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 15, 2010, 04:32:17 PM
Quote from: wasper68 on September 15, 2010, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 15, 2010, 02:50:38 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 15, 2010, 02:41:04 PM
And James Madison smitted VPI...

Must we bring that up?  :'(

:)

HOKIE, HOKIE, HOKIE High
Someone wipe the tear from Ryan's eye!!!

If they keep playing the way they have been, sandpaper might be more appropriate than tissues for these tears :):)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wasper68 on September 15, 2010, 04:44:36 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 15, 2010, 03:58:20 PM
wasper you made spit out my diet coke :)



glad I could help you out.  Hope you didn't have any rum in that diet coke or that would be considered alcohol abuse.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wasper68 on September 15, 2010, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 15, 2010, 04:32:17 PM
Quote from: wasper68 on September 15, 2010, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on September 15, 2010, 02:50:38 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 15, 2010, 02:41:04 PM
And James Madison smitted VPI...

Must we bring that up?  :'(

:)

HOKIE, HOKIE, HOKIE High
Someone wipe the tear from Ryan's eye!!!

If they keep playing the way they have been, sandpaper might be more appropriate than tissues for these tears :):)

Funny.  Let me know if I need to ship some to you.  You catching any Emory games this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 15, 2010, 05:09:55 PM
Quote from: wasper68 on September 15, 2010, 04:51:06 PM
Funny.  Let me know if I need to ship some to you.  You catching any Emory games this year?

Sorry to say, but probably not. I'm actually taking graduate classes at Va. Tech this semester and have a few other obligations that have cropped up, so I don't think I'm going to travel as much this year as I have in years past.

Of course, if E&H makes the playoffs, that could change things  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 15, 2010, 11:30:10 PM
ODU did it!! Why not CNU? aND TELL Them kids in D2 who cares and the ones who made it.

Narch is no man
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captains811 on September 16, 2010, 10:38:11 AM
     I have checked these boards ever since completing my eligibility and graduating from CNU in May of 2007.  While I am not interested in bashing the players at CNU now or the coaches, I do have a few thoughts/opinions on the state of the program.

     First, KEEPING IT REAL, the notion that CNU should go to 1AA is as silly as it is unattainable.  ODU has many, many more alumni than CNU and the ability to attract close to 20k fans to every home game.  CNU has an enrollment of around 5000 and if they graduate even a quarter of that every year I am willing to bet that number does not come close to the number ODU graduates. 

     Second, CNU has many advantages over the other USA South members when it comes to athletics and they have been mentioned here many times.  Location and affordability being the two that get the most attention, and deservedly so.  However, the main reason CNU was so successful so quickly, other than outstanding coaches and great administrative and fan support, was the ability to get the student athletes into school.
     
     Just as an example, I graduated high school with a 3.0 GPA and scored 1100 on my SAT.  I was accepted to CNU as a student before I decided I was going to play football in college.  A high school senior with those same credentials has zero, repeat zero, chance of getting into CNU today as a regular student.  While everyone knows exceptions are made for athletics, the number of and quality (in terms of talent) of those exceptions has decressed every year CNU has had a team, which also has coincided with CNU becoming a much more sought after and respected option for college applicants.  If someone took the time to find the average SAT score/GPA of incoming freshman for 2009/10 for the USA South members they would see the desrepency between CNU and the other members.
     
     For the Fall of 2010, CNU had 8400 applications and only ACCEPTED 1200 freshman.  That is around 14% of applicants.  I have not looked up the numbers but I am willing to bet that the other schools accept closer to 50% of applicants if not a much higher percentage.
     
     I say all of this because Coach Kelchner and the rest of of staff are not able to recruit the same kid as they were in the early part of the last decade.  This is the single biggest reason for the decline of the program and I am farily sure if Coach K was able to speak candidly, he would say the same thing.  I am also fairly certain that other schools in the conference are aware of this, preferbly NCW, who has done very well in recent years in getting many kids from 757 that Kelchner was simply not able to get into CNU.
     
     Lastly, I was at both the Wesley and Salisbury game and it is painfully obvious to anyone who has watched CNU for the first 10 years of the program that there are maybe 10-15 kids that traveled to Salisbury last Saturday who would of been on the traveling squad in any year from 01-07.  I am willing to bet the other alumni on this board would agree.  I am not saying nor do I support CNU admitting any athlete that does not meet the standards of the school, I am just pointing out what I believe to be the main cause of the slow decline in talent, and make no mistake about it, that (talent) is the reason for the decline in wins.   I want nothing more than for CNU Football to be successful and will continue to support them in the future. 

    These are just my thoughts and thanks to all who have made this board an informative read for me the past 3 years.  Hello all. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 16, 2010, 10:45:42 AM
Welcome to the board!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2010, 10:53:15 AM
Great insight, Hudson. thanks for providing a perspective from someone who was in the locker room and on the field for CNU! My daughter trasnferred to CNU from JMU. She was an IB student in high school with a GPA of 3.76, graduated top 10% of class. JMU gave her 13 credit hours from high school. When she transferred to CNU, they only took 3 from high school and only 9 from JMU!

From CNU website
Stats - middle 50% GPA - 3.3 to 3.9
middle 50% SAT - 1140 to 1260

Also - out of the 8400 applications - 50% were accepted. The 1200 figure you gave is called the yield. That's the final number out of those accepted that actually enrolled.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captains811 on September 16, 2010, 11:53:35 AM
Thanks Pat and 85.

85 - Obviously, more than 1200 were accepted and some chose other schools for whatever reason and I should of done a better job explaining what was my main point;    The increasing demand for acceptance into the university and therefore the increase in the quality of the applicants, and how this has affected the ability of the coaches to get student athletes enrolled.

You may know better than me, but I am pretty sure that Pres. Trible wants to keep the size of each incoming Freshman class at about 1200, and total enrollment around 4800 - 5000.  I was trying to show that 8400 applicants applied for only 1200 spots and that is how I came to the 14% figure.  I am sure that the other USA South schools also have a number they look to accept every year and I would imagine that number in relation to the number of applicants they receive is nowhere near 14%.

Where did you see the 50% accepted figure?  The numbers I gave were from a earlier story in the Daily Press.

CNU applications for fall 2010:

•Number of applications: 8,426
•Number of applications in 2009: 8,400
•Freshman class size: 1,220
•Total enrollment, 2009-10: 4,952
•Average GPA for Class of 2013: 3.64
•Expected average GPA for Class of 2014: 3.7

Sources: Christopher Newport University, State Council of Higher Education for Virginia


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 16, 2010, 01:32:02 PM
Captains811

Welcome. It's always good to hear from a guy with dust on his boots or somebody that was there.

Succinct and thoughtful analysis of what I was fumbling for. Somebody said it earlier a couple of years ago (perhaps Pat C) but if you recruit 100 football players you got 10% of your enrollment. Or words to that effect.

When the administration decides to lower that number to get "students" instead of student athletes you just make it harder to play.  So what would be the difference for CNU (or any school) that gets the number of apps they get and they sign 100 guys to play. Their standards being a little lower will not kill the schools bottom line.

the non athlete student will have an equally persuasive argument but if they want to get rid of football or some sport just have the guts to do it instead bleeding coaches careers and deny the team a chance to win.

Lees-McRae made the same argument in 94 WRT GPA and cost when they did away with football after 100 years. It's an adminstration slowing bleeding it away for a future strike against the teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2010, 02:09:51 PM
Captains811 - got figures from CNU.edu.  It's under Admissions and then a link that says "what kind of student attends CNU" or something like that...in the left margin. Lots of good info and then some really stupid stuff.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2010, 02:24:44 PM
Here's a question for all of us "experts". Is it harder to recruit football players than other athletes? If so, what other sports are difficult? easier? Does it matter if it is a woman's sport? Here's why I ask. A lot has been said about recruiting and the difficulties for CNU with ODU and current administration admission requirements. My rebuttal is - it doesn't seem to affect other CNU sports. A total sports winning % of 74% last year. Men's soccer currently ranked #2, women's volleyball #13 (with a player this week names NATIONAL player of the week), Field Hockey #8, Women's hoops in Sweet 16 last year with a 3 time All-American junior returning for 1 more year.

Hope this generates some good discussion!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captains811 on September 16, 2010, 04:52:36 PM
Dont have time to respond in full right now, so just an observation:  During my time at CNU 2002-06 and since, the only three sports that have noticibly declined to me (in terms of overall talent, and to a certain extent winning %) are Football, Men's Basketball, and Baseball. 

The sports 85 mentioned have all done exceptionally well and in many cases alot better during the past 7-8 years then they did before CNU began growing so rapidly.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 16, 2010, 10:18:32 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on September 15, 2010, 11:30:10 PM
ODU did it!! Why not CNU? aND TELL Them kids in D2 who cares and the ones who made it.

Narch is the man
get back to me when odu beats anyone of consequence...right now, they're beating up on a bunch of teams with fewer scholarships than they have (d2) or no scholarships at all (d1aa non-scholarship) - in fact, this season, they have a loss to a non-scholarship program (jacksonville)

pat coleman is the man ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 16, 2010, 10:36:04 PM
811 - your points are all valid (except the 14% acceptance rate...even duke admits more than 14% of their applicants), but i would contend that the cost and facilities (both athletic and non-athletic) are a much bigger advantages than the gpa/sat requirements are a hinderance...i can assure you that most (mind you, most...not all) of the student-athletes at mu would have been granted admission at cnu, but if they had been va residents, i contend that few would have chosen mu over cnu in large part because of the difference in cost and facilities - mu has had some success recruiting soccer (men and women), track and baseball players in va, but other than that, not many va student-athletes on the mu rosters - i can also give you 100% assurance that cnu is still taking a number of exceptions, and those exceptions aren't at all unlike the lower 1/2 to 1/4 of incoming students at places like mu, su and maryville...when you've got 1,200 freshman, it's much easier to "mask" those 870 SAT scores in your averages than it is if you've got just 350-400 freshman...think back to your statistics class(es) at cnu, and you'll understand what i mean

all you have to do is look at cnu athletic rosters to see where the bread is buttered with regard to cost...not many out-of-state students in the mix at cnu, and it's not a coincidence...cnu coaches obviously realize that it's tough to get kids to pay $26K per year (but the privates in the usasac all have to get them to pay $30K+ before financial aid)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2010, 12:54:07 AM
I figure someone should enforce the bet even if he isn't man enough to do so for himself.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 17, 2010, 08:18:46 AM
here's a plug...coach sypult is one of 5 d3 coaches in the running for liberty mutual coach of the year...i think all of the usasac fans should vote for him

www.coachoftheyear.com.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captains811 on September 17, 2010, 10:38:46 AM
Narch, all great points.

You are right on about ODU not having beat anyone of consequence.  I am interested to see how they will do this Saturday again William and Mary.  I would guess not very well, but we will see.

I agree to an extent that "most" student athletes at MU would get into CNU, however I bet the majority of your "most" would not be playing football.  Also, you are right in stating that the larger size of CNU's incoming freshman class would allow to "hide" the exceptions and still not bring down the overall GPA and SAT numbers down that much.  However, I would contend that the "exeptions" at CNU are not granted for applicants with scores as low as at, for example, NCWC.

I could not find exact numbers but this is from the admissions page on NCWC website...

"Typically, students should have a 2.7 GPA and an 800 SAT score or a 17 Composite score on the ACT to be regularly accepted into NCWC."

An applicant with that GPA and SAT score would be doing nothing but wasting an application fee in applying to CNU.  If that is what is "regularly accepted at NCWC, then would would qualify as an exeption?  Per CNU's website, the average GPA and SAT score for incoming freshman is 3.6 and 1200.  An exeption to to that requirement would probably fall more in line with MU's avg scores for incoming freshman, which per their website are 3.28 and 990

All that being said, CNU still has a significant advantage in cost and facilities.  While that is a huge deal in winning athletes that could get into any USA South school they wanted to, it doesnt help at all the prospective student athletes who have no chance to be giving an "exeption, and therefore have to go to say, NCWC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 17, 2010, 12:41:25 PM
Nice looking Web site :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 17, 2010, 12:59:20 PM
Website looks great Pat! If anyone is interested, I am a contributing writer to the William and Mary blog.
www.thetribalfever.com

I wrote an article about the upcoming W&M/ODU game.

Here is the link to the article:

http://thetribalfever.com/?p=723
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2010, 05:31:38 PM
Thanks for the props.

REAL: Please don't violate the newspaer's copyright by pasting its whole story here.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on September 18, 2010, 08:18:16 AM
Pat: This site works great via mobile.     USASOUTH: I've read the last few posts about Cnu's football team  being not as good as it has been in the past, but couldn't it be that the conference has recruited better.  It't not like the presidents of the colleges want theses teams to fail.  Winning brings in money.  Baketball and football are big moneymakers and that is not just CNU.  That probably runs true at most colleges.   "THE U'S" football sucess made Miami what it is today.  (Note to the College that nearly went under this past year,  if you build it, THEY  will come.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 18, 2010, 10:19:57 AM
Quote from: Captains811 on September 17, 2010, 10:38:46 AM
Narch, all great points.

You are right on about ODU not having beat anyone of consequence.  I am interested to see how they will do this Saturday again William and Mary.  I would guess not very well, but we will see.

I agree to an extent that "most" student athletes at MU would get into CNU, however I bet the majority of your "most" would not be playing football.  Also, you are right in stating that the larger size of CNU's incoming freshman class would allow to "hide" the exceptions and still not bring down the overall GPA and SAT numbers down that much.  However, I would contend that the "exeptions" at CNU are not granted for applicants with scores as low as at, for example, NCWC.

I could not find exact numbers but this is from the admissions page on NCWC website...

"Typically, students should have a 2.7 GPA and an 800 SAT score or a 17 Composite score on the ACT to be regularly accepted into NCWC."

An applicant with that GPA and SAT score would be doing nothing but wasting an application fee in applying to CNU.  If that is what is "regularly accepted at NCWC, then would would qualify as an exeption?  Per CNU's website, the average GPA and SAT score for incoming freshman is 3.6 and 1200.  An exeption to to that requirement would probably fall more in line with MU's avg scores for incoming freshman, which per their website are 3.28 and 990

All that being said, CNU still has a significant advantage in cost and facilities.  While that is a huge deal in winning athletes that could get into any USA South school they wanted to, it doesnt help at all the prospective student athletes who have no chance to be giving an "exeption, and therefore have to go to say, NCWC.


Narch made good points! Overall cost is a major factor as well as GPA. As far as NCWC is concerned, the GPA required is not out of line with many schools of its size, including a great number of private schools. CNU is shooting itself in the foot in football due to GPA, but as far as NCWC is concerned, like MU, Maryville, or any other private school, they are not cheap to attend. Having said that and as an old Bishop, NCWC is very selective in their choice of athletes, and it is not all based upon the GPA. Having said that, maintaining a GPA in order to play is much more difficult to obtain than gettin in. Hey, we will take all we can get if they meet the requirements and can meet the costs of attending, character, and other requirements. Heck, we're still playing in a high school stadium!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 18, 2010, 12:00:23 PM
Quote from: Allen C on September 17, 2010, 12:59:20 PM
Website looks great Pat! If anyone is interested, I am a contributing writer to the William and Mary blog.
www.thetribalfever.com

I wrote an article about the upcoming W&M/ODU game.

Here is the link to the article:

http://thetribalfever.com/?p=723

Go Tribe!!!!!

CNU85
WM95
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 18, 2010, 12:06:40 PM
not related to board, entirely. But......I am SO TIRED of hearing about ODU football! I hope W&M beats them like rented mules....76-0 would be good. Trivia for out of area fans - ODU and CNU were once a part of W&M.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 18, 2010, 12:36:43 PM
How are you tired of something that just got started. Give them credit for starting a program.

Narch is not a man
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 18, 2010, 03:05:07 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on September 18, 2010, 12:36:43 PM
How are you tired of something that just got started. Give them credit for starting a program.

That's my point. They've had a team for a year and a couple of games......I work in Norfolk....you'd think they were defending National Champs. They had a good record last year, but played mostly D2 schools......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 18, 2010, 03:18:26 PM
Sounds like Averett has things under control. Anyone head a ECU - VT score. I am pulling for ECU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 18, 2010, 03:26:46 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on September 18, 2010, 03:18:26 PM
Sounds like Averett has things under control. Anyone head a ECU - VT score. I am pulling for ECU.

24-21 ECU 12:10 in 3rd
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 18, 2010, 03:49:03 PM
CNU starts year 0-3. Turnovers and mental errors kill. Lots of good things happened. A week off, then conference play. Congrats to Frostburg.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 18, 2010, 05:04:57 PM
I said 3-7.

Narch is the man
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 18, 2010, 05:08:57 PM
I am sick...

So. Va. 20
Ferrum 17


Ferrum kicker 1 of 5 on FG's.

Ferrum gave up 2 fumbles, and one int. The int was returned 70 yards for a score.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 18, 2010, 08:05:48 PM
Look like ODU is doing their thing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on September 18, 2010, 08:38:50 PM
Averett won against a not very good Guilford team today (I may be wrong but haven't the majority out of conference victories so far been against Guilford?). 

Looking down the road, after 3 weeks the league's out of conference results are pitiful.  The USA South Athletic conference champs will be at best an 8 seed in the playoffs (because there isn't any lower & thank goodness for an automatic bid). 

As for the reasons, why certain programs are down this year, i.e., expense, GPA's, etc., other top flight programs in other parts of the country have the same challenges.  Is John Hopkins more known for its football or medical school.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 18, 2010, 08:48:30 PM
MC 20    LaGrange 17     3 OT

What a gutsy game by the Fighting Scots.  LaGrange defeat Millsaps last week who went to the playoffs lasted season.  MC started a freshman QB (Conner is out for the season with a shoulder injury) & WR Idlette played only 4 plays because of an injury.  0-0 game at halftime.  Great job by defense. Offense had to fight for every yard they gained in 2nd half.  MC goes up 10-7 with 6 minutes left and LaGrange drives to MC's 5 yard line w/ 1 minute left in game.  MC's defense holds LaGrange to a field goal.  LaGrange scores TD in 1st OT.  MC converts a 4th & 16 on their drive which QB Williams hits Idlette for 5 yard TD pass.  MC throws an INT in 2nd OT, but LaGrange's kicker misses FG.  LaGrange starts the 3rd OT by missing another FG.  MC wraps up a win with a FG by Naboa.   

I believe this is the 11th OT game in the 8 years Coach I has been the HC. 

Great win & off week comes at a good time to get the many injured players healthy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 18, 2010, 09:01:54 PM
PS - Our conference needs to thank Guilford.   Only 4 wins by the entire conference and 3 were against Guilford.  Any way we can get them on our schedule this year....... :D    :D     :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 18, 2010, 10:29:58 PM
very tricky new format.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on September 19, 2010, 11:18:53 AM
(17) LaGrange (20) Maryville
(20) Southern VA (17) Ferrum
(31) CNU (33) Frostburg
(14) SU (42) Randolph Macon
(7) Greensboro (9) Apprentice School
(9) Guilford (45) Averett

Probably the biggest surprises of the day was Southern VA knocking off Ferrum and Apprentice School downing Greensboro.

Was looking forward to see how SU's offense would go while being at full-tilt with their premiere RB's of (Kyle and Roberts) and a very respectable QB in Wright but RMC's defense completely shutdown SU while allowing only 143yds of total offense (71) rushing and (72) passing.

What is going on with USA-South football that has just an overall record of (4-16)?  




Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on September 19, 2010, 01:25:56 PM
USA South Fan - What's wrong with the conference this year?  Can you say "ACC - lite"?  The geographic proximity to the ACC must be having a "trickle down" effect.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 20, 2010, 11:18:19 AM
Hey D3football.com. The new web design page you have created looks great. The site needed a up-date for the new decade. Everything on the front page was very easy to find. Nice job once again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 20, 2010, 01:45:33 PM
Allen C
I gave you some karma because I feel that pain for you. I would put $$ that Ferrum would win
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captains811 on September 20, 2010, 03:42:57 PM
Pat, home page does look pretty great.

Not much to say, CNU lost to a team that was 1-11 (last year and two games this year) in its last 12 games.

An old teammate and I were talking about the season so far and all the points the defense has given up, and I looked up these stats...

CNU defense has giving up 34, 58 and 33 points so far for a total of 125 through 3 games. 

In 2003, CNU gave up 88 points in the ENTIRE REGULAR SEASON (9 games total), which included playing Rowan, Bridgewater and Mcdaniel out of conference.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 21, 2010, 04:47:14 PM
Quote from: Captains811 on September 20, 2010, 03:42:57 PM
Pat, home page does look pretty great.

Not much to say, CNU lost to a team that was 1-11 (last year and two games this year) in its last 12 games.

An old teammate and I were talking about the season so far and all the points the defense has given up, and I looked up these stats...

CNU defense has giving up 34, 58 and 33 points so far for a total of 125 through 3 games. 

In 2003, CNU gave up 88 points in the ENTIRE REGULAR SEASON (9 games total), which included playing Rowan, Bridgewater and Mcdaniel out of conference.



Hopefully a few players on CNU's defense follows this board and takes notice.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 22, 2010, 12:36:18 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on September 21, 2010, 04:47:14 PM
Quote from: Captains811 on September 20, 2010, 03:42:57 PM
Pat, home page does look pretty great.

Not much to say, CNU lost to a team that was 1-11 (last year and two games this year) in its last 12 games.

An old teammate and I were talking about the season so far and all the points the defense has given up, and I looked up these stats...

CNU defense has giving up 34, 58 and 33 points so far for a total of 125 through 3 games. 

In 2003, CNU gave up 88 points in the ENTIRE REGULAR SEASON (9 games total), which included playing Rowan, Bridgewater and Mcdaniel out of conference.



Hopefully a few players on CNU's defense follows this board and takes notice.

Like I said a week or so ago - put Long back on D for his leadership and take one of those 7 QB's on the roster and tell them it's time to wear big boy pants and get the job done. It's so easy not being a coach!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 23, 2010, 12:27:35 AM
I said that last year and somebody got mad with it.


Narch is the man.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 23, 2010, 12:22:09 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on September 23, 2010, 12:27:35 AM
I said that last year and somebody got mad with it.


Narch is the man.

I would like to see where you wrote that last year.  Copy that quote for me and send it on.  I looked through all of last year and never saw it.

Narch, I fixed KIR's quote for you. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 23, 2010, 01:55:53 PM
If Keeping it Real isn't man enough to live up to his bet then we don't need him posting anymore. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 23, 2010, 03:39:10 PM
no need to ban KIR...i formally absolve him from his obligation to call me the man...it was a sucker bet anyway, as his opinion of tunde ogun was clouded by his affinity for his kin, which is understandable - having KIR around livens this board up when it needs it
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 23, 2010, 03:50:07 PM
I'm still waiting for him to tell us where he's playing. I looked around as he suggested this summer and struck out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on September 23, 2010, 04:27:34 PM
Thanks Narch. Sometimes this board needs a little Kick A!@
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 23, 2010, 04:37:57 PM
I heard a rumor Tunde has some opportunities in the CFL. BUt I didn't see him on any roster. Does the CFL have practice squads?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 23, 2010, 04:38:36 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 23, 2010, 03:50:07 PM
I'm still waiting for him to tell us where he's playing. I looked around as he suggested this summer and struck out.

Can you strike out in football?  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on September 23, 2010, 11:02:11 PM
Like I said before, if Keeping It Real wasn't his agent, then Tunde would be playing right now.......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 24, 2010, 03:47:26 PM
I haven't been able to make it to CNU's games this year. I think it is the first time I have away from it this long. From what I read, I haven't missed much.

I feel for Matt Long and the rest of the seniors. No one wants to be part of a losing team. I know Long is a good leader and I like him in the mix on offense. It seems the D really needs help though. With the talent so thin this year, why not start him both ways. Defense is like riding a bike. Some players just have a nose for the ball.

It's hard to win games letting up 40 points a game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 26, 2010, 12:21:03 PM
I was a 3 sport star athlete in high school, maintained good grades, and worked ever since I was 15. I was D ROY my freshmen year at CNU, all conference all 4 years including several other post season awards, worked off campus immediately following every season, graduated with a decent gpa, and never got in trouble on campus. In the professional arena I have been fortunate to climb the corporate ladder extremely fast and start my own financial services company part time. Now this is not a tap myself on the back rant but the point of my argument is if I applied to attend CNU in 2010 I would NOT have been accepted.

CNU has aggressively changed their academic standards in a short period of time and you would be naive to think that has not affected their results on the field. CNU's coaching staff does not overnight go from a staff that put together a South Region contender in 6 years to a staff that finished 5-5 and can't beat a 1-11 program now. I think we all can agree that football is a totally different sport than any other sport played. Due to not many kids playing both ways you have 22 starters minimum and you need at least 40-50 real good players if you want to be competitive on the national level due to how often starters get hurt. Looking at CNU's roster now you might have 10 kids that could have played from 01-06 and I am not saying that because I played during that era but even with the eye test we do not have the same type of athletes wearing our uniform. I personally feel sorry for coach K and staff because they have remained the same but their talent has vastly changed and they are still and will always be great coaches. Coach Legg used to tell me Holmes I'll sit your a$$ on the bench in a hot minute if you don't make plays because I got great players just waiting to take your reps. When you give up 30 plus week in and week out and the same kids are starting they continue to start because you don't want to give up 50 plus per week if you take them out. There is no competition on CNU's roster a to some of the kids like Diggs or Long and maybe a select few others take solace in knowing that you have the veterans respect because that old CNU pride comes out in your play every Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 26, 2010, 10:58:11 PM
Finest,

Nicely put. I've said this before. I couldn't get into CNU today and I have an MBA from William and Mary. Recently, I have been appointed to the Luter School of Business Board of Advisors at CNU. Last week I attended 2 functions. At both functions Trible was there and spoke. Interesting facts:

last 10 years.....$500 million in facility improvements
Goal for next ten years.....another $500 million. $84 million science building almost complete. Chapel breaks ground later this year. Luter business building to break ground next year ($70 million). Take the world class facilities and the increased level of professors, and you can up the academic standards. Out of all public schools in Virginia, CNU ranks 3rd in average GPA (slightly above (3.7) and SAT (over 1200) scores for incoming freshmen- behind William and Mary and UVA.

All of this makes it very difficult to recruit a large number of talented athletes for one team. Only when it is brought to Trible's attention that Football and Basketball bring alum and their wallets to the University and that there is a direct correlation to winning and $$, will Trible make any concessions to student athletes. I think it will happen, but first we will feel the pain. Hey - who would have thought he would have agreed to alcohol at tailgates? There was an actual Alcohol Committee that studied that! Maybe another committee is coming??  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 27, 2010, 11:33:05 AM
Can someone tell me what the heck is going on with flying helmets this year. Is it because of the long hair. Is it that they are not cranking down the chin straps? I am waiting for the time when a head will be in the helmet. I wached 8 hats come off in one game today. Someobdoy is going to get KILT. Did anyone see this, this past weekend. I have never seen the number of helmet fly off like this year
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2010, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 27, 2010, 11:33:05 AM
Can someone tell me what the heck is going on with flying helmets this year. Is it because of the long hair. Is it that they are not cranking down the chin straps? I am waiting for the time when a head will be in the helmet. I wached 8 hats come off in one game today. Someobdoy is going to get KILT. Did anyone see this, this past weekend. I have never seen the number of helmet fly off like this year
heard some discussion of this on sirius nfl radio last week...long hair and unstrapped chinstraps were the main culprits put forth by the hosts - the other was bigger, faster, stronger athletes, which is what i'm buying...i'm not sure that helmet technology has kept up with the athletes' development over the years

the monarchs sure could use a couple of helmet poppers...they had no answers for ehc this weekend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2010, 01:27:14 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 26, 2010, 10:58:11 PMlast 10 years.....$500 million in facility improvements
Goal for next ten years.....another $500 million.
sounds like cnu should be an easy sell for recruits, to me...i'm not sure that if you combined ALL of the facility improvements on ALL of the usasac campuses over the last decade that you would get $500 million worth of improvements

if my paycheck were dependent upon recruiting football players and winning games, i'd prefer to work at the place that has the ability to finance such facility growth AND costs about 1/2 to 1/3 of any school they are directly competing with (even if it is marginally more difficult to get said football players admitted), but that's just me
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on September 28, 2010, 10:19:43 AM
Narch I had a 3.0 coming out of high school but did not do well on my SAT's and did not take the ACT until late my senior year and faired far better. I grew up in a small town and played single A football so while it was big in my home town I was not taught much about the recruiting process until after I got to college. Bottom line is if I had the SAT scores of the players on the team now then I would have went to a D1 or D1aa school. CNU was a great second option because it was close to home and I would not have to go to Fork Union etc before I could go to school. Also Coach K promised me that although it was D3 I would play in big/championship games had the opportunity to fight for a starting job, and play against some of the top teams in d3. He fulfilled his end of the bargain and I think I was worth 1 of his roster spots although you would have to ask him that question to get the most accurate answer. 

And by no means am I saying that CNU should be allowed to recruit idiots that are just good football players but seriously if I am good enough to be recruited on scholarship by D1/FBS schools and my GPA/SAT scores allow me to get accepted, then why the hell would I pay to play at CNU?  Make a case for that UVA, W&M, and CNU hmmmm if I want to get a good education and play football who should I choose? The great athlete & great student will pick UVA, good athlete & great student will pick W&M, and average athlete who was not recruited by the other 2 schools but a great student will pick CNU. And don't forget the great athlete with good grades in Va also can opt go to ODU or Hampton.

Now I'm not asking for anyones sympathy in the conference but there is a reason why CNU's football program is on the decline and it is not due to coaching at all. CNU has Phoebus ex head coach on the staff so in terms of recruiting how well respected is this guy by local high school kids. But how many top Phantoms or Crabbers etc do you see on CNU's roster none. CNU85 do what you can but I hope someone realizes it's ok to let good well rounded student athletes into school.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 28, 2010, 01:09:25 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on September 28, 2010, 10:19:43 AM
Now I'm not asking for anyones sympathy in the conference but there is a reason why CNU's football program is on the decline and it is not due to coaching at all.
and you won't get any...

your earlier points are all fine and dandy, and i understand that perhaps cnu has raised its admissions standards some since the early days, but we aren't talking about a roster full of norman einstein's (joe theismann reference (http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Joe_Theismann/))...being a good football player and being intelligent are not mutally exclusive...there are lots of good student-athletes out there, and cnu should be MORE attractive to those good student-athletes BECAUSE of their facilities (academic and athletic) and cost...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 28, 2010, 03:58:55 PM
Everybody agrees that CNU is attractive to prospective student-athletes, but the simple fact is that they cannot get kids into school.  When I applied to CNU (2003), with a 3.2 GPA and an 1130 SAT, I was accepted without the help of playing football getting me into school.  If I were to apply to CNU today, I would probably need the help of the football coaches to get into school.  That goes for a majority of former players.  My GPA/SAT score were in the higher percentile for football players when I played and now I would be in the lower-mid percentile.

To me, it seems like there are 2 separate arguments.  Narch, you seem to be arguing that the cost to attend CNU and the campus/facilities should attract more student-athletes. Whereas, finest is arguing that although it is more attractive to attend CNU, a majority of those kids cannot get in. 

The big example I have on this is Teron Bush from NCWC.  He is a great RB and used to come to CNU to work-out over the summer with CNU players.  He is a local kid that wanted to go to CNU and was recruited heavily by CNU but couldn't get in.  I'm sure there are numerous cases like this that the CNU coaching staff has to deal with every year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 28, 2010, 04:10:47 PM
CNUALUM? Humm....sound like a homer to me.  :)

CNU = GC-Q. Winning is a "invita Minerva" at both places
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 28, 2010, 04:12:56 PM
Can talk be about something else for a while? :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 28, 2010, 04:22:09 PM
Yeah the CNUALUM probably gave it away or the fact that I said I attended CNU might have showed I was a homer a bit.  ;)  But at the same time, I refuse to use it as an excuse.  My argument was simply to say that it is harder to get kids in.  But I'm a firm believer in playing with the hand you are dealt and to work around obstacles.  Every school in the nation has some obstacles in recruiting but the great schools can overcome them.  As somebody else pointed out, 3 other fall sports at CNU are ranked nationally in the top 10 (including the men's soccer team that is ranked #1), so it's really just time for the football team to man up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on September 28, 2010, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on September 28, 2010, 04:12:56 PM
Can talk be about something else for a while? :)

I'm not sure anybody wants to talk about the games seeing as a week just went by without a mention on this board of how any of the games went. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 28, 2010, 06:59:37 PM
I thought you guys would want to know this. In today's Winchester Star paper it said that a major announcement will be made on Wednesday and sources to the paper said it will be about expansion into the ODAC. It also said that ODAC commissioner Brad Bankston told the paper that a decision would be made Wednesday regarding SU's status. We have been down this road before but it looks like the ODAC has finally invited all of SU's teams into the league and not just football. It wont make much sense if SU goes into the ODAC as just football members for it would force the other teams to be without a home as the USAC has said it would not grant such a move.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 28, 2010, 11:34:26 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on September 28, 2010, 04:26:07 PMI'm not sure anybody wants to talk about the games seeing as a week just went by without a mention on this board of how any of the games went. 
given the way most of the games have gone for the conference this season, talking about them just isn't something i personally want to do :)

i did mention a few posts back something about the monarchs getting taken behind the wood shed by the wasps - at least the monarchs can say they've lost to quality teams...the two teams that have hammered them are unbeaten and look like they might be legit playoff contenders...and of course, the monarchs have 1/6 of the usasac's win total this season :)

congrats to su for potentially getting into the odac...and let the beatings begin in all sports except baseball...if they don't have to play the tough usasac competition on the diamond, do you think they'll start to schedule some challenging non-conference games?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on September 28, 2010, 11:36:26 PM
I just caught the TV3 Winchester broadcast over the net and their sports guy stated that SU's AD is quoted ...

"It's the biggest thing to ever to happen to SU"

Sounds like SU is moving into the ODAC, wonder if Guilford will be coming into the USA-South?

http://www.tv3winchester.com/sports
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 28, 2010, 11:39:56 PM
I don't know why Guilford would want to leave the ODAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 29, 2010, 12:16:21 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 28, 2010, 11:39:56 PM
I don't know why Guilford would want to leave the ODAC.
People keep bringing this up because they think geography makes us a better fit for the USASAC.  There are many reasons (and many sports besides football) that are considered for conference affiliation.  Trust me (and Pat), Guilford wants to remain in the ODAC!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on September 29, 2010, 03:12:13 PM
Its now official. SU will be moving into the ODAC starting in 2012. http://www.suhornets.com/sports/fball/2010-11/releases/201009293erais
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on September 29, 2010, 06:45:14 PM
So now there will no doubt be a courting process and it wont have to include football but would be a plus if a new member school did have that.

While I think MC might be asked if they'd care to come fully on board, Im not sure there's much incentive to add the miles for all sports on both sides.

I agree Guilford has no incentive either.

1) So the question is who are the candidates?
and
2) How long does the conference have to find someone before the desire for the guaranteed AQs sends someone else (CNU would be my bet) looking for a new home?

and then there's this weekend, Maryville has looked a bit better this week with most everyone back on the field. Offense was certainly much crisper than it was before bye week. Not sure if that's the freshmen having a week to just work on learning the playbook or getting some key people back at 100 percent or combination there of, but we'll see how they do game speed at Methodist.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2010, 06:52:53 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on September 29, 2010, 06:45:14 PM
So now there will no doubt be a courting process and it wont have to include football but would be a plus if a new member school did have that.

While I think MC might be asked if they'd care to come fully on board, Im not sure there's much incentive to add the miles for all sports on both sides.

I agree Guilford has no incentive either.

1) So the question is who are the candidates?
and
2) How long does the conference have to find someone before the desire for the guaranteed AQs sends someone else (CNU would be my bet) looking for a new home?

and then there's this weekend, Maryville has looked a bit better this week with most everyone back on the field. Offense was certainly much crisper than it was before bye week. Not sure if that's the freshmen having a week to just work on learning the playbook or getting some key people back at 100 percent or combination there of, but we'll see how they do game speed at Methodist.

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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 29, 2010, 09:44:21 PM
I wonder if Southern Virginia University would switch from the NAIA to the USA South?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on September 29, 2010, 10:04:33 PM
Quote from: Allen C on September 29, 2010, 09:44:21 PM
I wonder if Southern Virginia University would switch from the NAIA to the USA South?

It's certainly not an easy thing to rise into compliance with NCAA standards, but if SoVa had any inkling, this would be the time to take action.

If the spirits on both sides of the divide were so willing, this the best idea I've heard so far. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 29, 2010, 11:42:40 PM
UVa-Wise might be a candidate as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 30, 2010, 12:10:49 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 29, 2010, 11:42:40 PM
UVa-Wise might be a candidate as well.
No men's or women's soccer.

http://www.uvawisecavs.com/

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 30, 2010, 01:22:22 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 30, 2010, 12:10:49 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 29, 2010, 11:42:40 PM
UVa-Wise might be a candidate as well.
No men's or women's soccer.

http://www.uvawisecavs.com/


True.  By the way, Ralph, I see McMurry visits Guilford for a men's basketball game this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wasper68 on September 30, 2010, 06:50:30 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 30, 2010, 12:10:49 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 29, 2010, 11:42:40 PM
UVa-Wise might be a candidate as well.
No men's or women's soccer.

http://www.uvawisecavs.com/



Would probably need to raise academic standards as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 30, 2010, 06:55:39 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 30, 2010, 01:22:22 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 30, 2010, 12:10:49 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 29, 2010, 11:42:40 PM
UVa-Wise might be a candidate as well.
No men's or women's soccer.

http://www.uvawisecavs.com/


True.  By the way, Ralph, I see McMurry visits Guilford for a men's basketball game this season.
Should be good.

Our new head coach will continue in the proud tradition of Coaches Kimbrell and Holmes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 30, 2010, 09:50:56 AM
GC-Q----leave the ODAC? Pat asks the question that cannot be answered except a beat down is a beat down either way. Administered by ODAC or USASAC does not matter. getting smited either way
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 01, 2010, 06:23:21 AM
Go Bishops!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 01, 2010, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 29, 2010, 11:42:40 PM
UVa-Wise might be a candidate as well.
'nova...we don't often disagree, but this is the worst idea ever...the usasac doesn't need another public school

a usasac/gsac merger makes too much sense...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 01, 2010, 09:57:46 AM
This Automatic Qualifier business should make some interesting changes in the conference. But from what I understand, the changes will be a few years down the road. I wonder if we will revert back to the way it was with the Dixie conference. Remember, before CNU had football there was no AQ for the Dixie(Now USA South).

Personally I think we all enjoy the race for the playoffs and the guarantee that someone will represent our conference in the post season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 01, 2010, 02:17:50 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 01, 2010, 09:57:46 AM
This Automatic Qualifier business should make some interesting changes in the conference. But from what I understand, the changes will be a few years down the road. I wonder if we will revert back to the way it was with the Dixie conference. Remember, before CNU had football there was no AQ for the Dixie(Now USA South).
except that the problem is just the opposite now...football should keep the aq (assuming nobody else bolts), but all other men's sports would lose it...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 01, 2010, 03:07:28 PM
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2010, 02:17:50 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 01, 2010, 09:57:46 AM
This Automatic Qualifier business should make some interesting changes in the conference. But from what I understand, the changes will be a few years down the road. I wonder if we will revert back to the way it was with the Dixie conference. Remember, before CNU had football there was no AQ for the Dixie(Now USA South).
except that the problem is just the opposite now...football should keep the aq (assuming nobody else bolts), but all other men's sports would lose it...

Now that stinks !! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 01, 2010, 06:57:03 PM
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2010, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 29, 2010, 11:42:40 PM
UVa-Wise might be a candidate as well.
'nova...we don't often disagree, but this is the worst idea ever...the usasac doesn't need another public school

a usasac/gsac merger makes too much sense...
Yeah, I was aware of the public school issue when I threw it out there, but they are in the USASAC's geographic footprint.  They're currently in an NAIA  conference that goes all the way from Ohio to Alabama.  I agree, a USASAC/GSAC merger makes a lot of sense - perhaps SU's departure will be the stimulus needed to make it happen.  Someone said earlier that Southern Virginia doesn't field enough sports teams - I agree that if they ever wanted in now would be the time to move in that direction.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 01, 2010, 11:42:10 PM
WOW, I have some catching up to do. Hope everyone is doing OK,

AUPOP, did I read or dream that the LB for Averett Logan Smyth was going to be used as a running back earlier? I thought he and Huffman worked well together at LB.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on October 02, 2010, 09:29:48 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 01, 2010, 06:57:03 PM
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2010, 08:20:51 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 29, 2010, 11:42:40 PM
UVa-Wise might be a candidate as well.
'nova...we don't often disagree, but this is the worst idea ever...the usasac doesn't need another public school

a usasac/gsac merger makes too much sense...
Yeah, I was aware of the public school issue when I threw it out there, but they are in the USASAC's geographic footprint.  They're currently in an NAIA  conference that goes all the way from Ohio to Alabama.  I agree, a USASAC/GSAC merger makes a lot of sense - perhaps SU's departure will be the stimulus needed to make it happen.  Someone said earlier that Southern Virginia doesn't field enough sports teams - I agree that if they ever wanted in now would be the time to move in that direction.

From one school who plays SVU in pretty much everything (at least the ones that we have :) )
They've got 8 men (baseball, bkb, cxc, fb, soccer, tennis, wrestling, lacrosse) and 6 women's sports (softball, vb, bkb, soccer, tennis, cxc)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2010, 04:15:10 PM
go monarchs! 1-0 in conference :)

down 14-0 @ halftime, score 17 in the second half and defense pitched a shutout...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 02, 2010, 07:33:45 PM
narch
I finally called one. LOL
Good for you guys
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2010, 07:43:42 PM
whoa...averett...take it easy, guys...no need to put a 50-0 beat down on the pride :)

seriously, i thought au would win, but would have never guessed they would smack gc around like that...i hope the monarchs can hold the cougars under 100
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 02, 2010, 10:12:53 PM
NCW (24) Ferrum (14)
Maryville (14) Methodist (17)
Greensboro (0) Averett (50)


The battle of previously (0-3) teams, it was 28 to 13, CNU (1-3) knocks off SU (0-4) in Winchester.  Don't be surprised that CNU gets on a roll after a complete effort tonight on both sides of the football.  SU has lost 13 straight now.

CNU's defense played well in allowing just two FG's by SU after a long punt return that set up SU's only TD of the game early in the 1st qtr.

CNU had 380yds compared to SU's 201.

CNU's Matt Long was 9 for 14 for 207yds with 3 TD's.

SU's offense appears to be regressing.  SU's Keone Kyle was limited to 52yds on 20 carries.  The Rico Wallace kid had another good night for SU with 7 catches for 91yds.

Scoring Summary:
1     10:33     Shenandoah - ROBERTS, Kevin 2 yd run. (LLOYD, Andrew kick is good).
Drive: 2 plays, 8 yards in 0:43.    0 - 7
1    01:21    Chris. Newport - Keith Gaines 10 yd run. (Ryan Trotman kick is good).
Drive: 7 plays, 74 yards in 3:01.    7 - 7

2    00:04    Shenandoah - LLOYD, Andrew 20 yd field goal.    7 - 10

3    10:07    Chris. Newport - T.j. Foster 59 yd pass from Matt Long. (Ryan Trotman kick is good).
Drive: 6 plays, 84 yards in 3:09.    14 - 10

3    04:12    Chris. Newport - Antonio Epps 16 yd pass from Matt Long. (Ryan Trotman kick is good).
Drive: 9 plays, 45 yards in 4:21.    21 - 10

4    11:52    Shenandoah - LLOYD, Andrew 38 yd field goal.    21 - 13
4    08:10    Chris. Newport - T.j. Foster 19 yd pass from Matt Long. (Ryan Trotman kick is good).
Drive: 7 plays, 61 yards in 3:33.    28 - 13
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 03, 2010, 06:06:34 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 01, 2010, 11:42:10 PM
WOW, I have some catching up to do. Hope everyone is doing OK,

AUPOP, did I read or dream that the LB for Averett Logan Smyth was going to be used as a running back earlier? I thought he and Huffman worked well together at LB.


Early in the season ( not sure for how long) he was used as a runing back but that seeems to be over. They were pretty thin at RB till the transfer from Concord (Wilson) came in. Kids a beast. About 250 lbs but moves like he is a lot smaller. Yesterday was the first time I was able to watch him in person, he's pretty good. Between him and the way the oline is playing I would said AU has a legite running game now to go along with their air attack. You will also be glad to know that the kicker has a good leg. Not a great day yesterday as far as PAT and FG but was bombing his KO's.  Great job by AU at homecoming. Big crowd, largest I have seen. Plenty of extra curicular activities going on before the game and as long as you were on the Cougars side of the field you couldn't have asked for a better outcome.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 03, 2010, 10:17:24 PM
Ferrum loses to NCW 24-14 after leading 14-10 in the 4th quarter. I think we lost three fumbles that quarter, and while Ferrum's defense played really well the first half, NCW must have made adjustments in the second half.

They had the option stymied, and did not give Mayo air in a jug.

Not a good year so far.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 05, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
In case anyone was wondering, the conference was 6-18 (.250) in nonconference play. Its the worst record since the conference went to eight teams.

Narch, not just 17 in second half, but 17 in fourth quarter!

I thought Maryville had a punt return coverage issue of sorts but two nearing 50 yards and the late interceptions really hurt the Scots.

The question isnt if CNU will get a head of steam, its if they'll have enough confidence built up in that boiler when they play AU. The way everyone else os playing right now, I'm not seeing a challenge on paper to that being a 1-2 finish but of course grass trumps paper ;D

BTB If you keep up with MC or conference news at www.thedailytimes.com, the full versions of stories seem to be running on the web again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 06, 2010, 12:21:56 PM
Averett had a play selected as on of the Top 5 plays of the week by DIII football.  It's on the website.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 06, 2010, 05:23:29 PM
And that 6-18 included 3-0 vs Guilford. Ouch!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 07, 2010, 03:38:18 AM
Maybe this weekend will be SU's 1st win of the sesaon to end their 13 game losing streak.

Safety, Larry Gibbs said the Shenandoah's secondary is "licking our chops" heading into Saturday's game at Maryville.

Scots freshman quarterback Dustin Williams completes less than half his passes, has thrown for 502 yards, four touchdowns, and six interceptions.

Backup quarterback Zach Dowdy, who has 20 passing attempts this season, is also a freshman. Maryville's pass offense and pass efficiency rank worst in the USA South.

"Anytime you see a freshman quarterback, or a first-year starter in general, that makes you real excited," Gibbs said.

(above taken from local Winchester newspaper)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 07, 2010, 09:46:21 AM
"licking our chops"

There was saying on every mission we went on "don't get cocky.. Cocky gets you kilt". Usually cocky means you have had success somewhere along the line

Lets win one first Mr. Gibbs. They may smite the freshman QB but lets smite him first.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 07, 2010, 10:09:26 AM
Freshman Quarterbacks can often surprise you :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 07, 2010, 05:29:34 PM
No player that is on a team on any level and has only won 4 games in the last 3 seasons should never say a statement like that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 07, 2010, 05:37:17 PM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 07, 2010, 05:29:34 PM
No player that is on a team on any level and has only won 4 games in the last 3 seasons should never say a statement like that.

And to what quote are you refering to? :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 08, 2010, 11:39:06 AM
Need a little help from some CNU faithful. Seems there is a rumor circulating at AU that tickets may not be available at the gate Saturday? Its sold out? Any truth to this, got about 20 people coming over from the Beach tommorrow to watch the game and dont want them making the drive if they cant get in. Sounds like a CNU plot to me....lol  Joking aside, is this even possible.

Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 08, 2010, 12:43:58 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on October 07, 2010, 05:37:17 PM

And to what quote are you refering to? :)

The one that yourself, abnrgr and USA-South_Fan were referring to by Larry Gibbs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2010, 12:46:18 PM
Quote from: USA-South_Fan on October 07, 2010, 03:38:18 AM
Maybe this weekend will be SU's 1st win of the sesaon to end their 13 game losing streak.

Safety, Larry Gibbs said the Shenandoah's secondary is "licking our chops" heading into Saturday's game at Maryville.
(above taken from local Winchester newspaper)
i don't normally have a rooting interest in games that don't directly affect the monarchs, and i could care less who wins the m'ville vs. su game, but i'm rooting for "karma" this weekend...i hope that m'ville's freshman qb torches young mr. gibbs at least once

su players should not be "licking their chops" about anybody...as uncle jessie pointed out, they haven't exactly been world-beaters over the last few years
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 08, 2010, 02:18:11 PM
I don't care who wins either as Narch so eloquently stated. I just laugh when I hear people talking smack when there is no back up to that smack.

But then again I cannot remember talking smack...unless I was pulling a Ferrum Panther off me.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 08, 2010, 02:56:27 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on October 08, 2010, 11:39:06 AM
Need a little help from some CNU faithful. Seems there is a rumor circulating at AU that tickets may not be available at the gate Saturday? Its sold out? Any truth to this, got about 20 people coming over from the Beach tommorrow to watch the game and dont want them making the drive if they cant get in. Sounds like a CNU plot to me....lol  Joking aside, is this even possible.

Thanks
I seriously doubt this is possible.  Just bring a lawn chair or a blanket!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 08, 2010, 03:56:39 PM
I stand by my quote, Freshman Quarterbacks can often surprise you.  Sure, they may be prone to make "Freshman Mistakes",, but some  perform very well on the field. Sometimes you have to weigh the athletic ability above experience, especially if experience does not produce. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Three Sails on October 08, 2010, 05:20:53 PM
Quote from: AUPOP on October 08, 2010, 11:39:06 AM
Need a little help from some CNU faithful. Seems there is a rumor circulating at AU that tickets may not be available at the gate Saturday? Its sold out? Any truth to this, got about 20 people coming over from the Beach tommorrow to watch the game and dont want them making the drive if they cant get in. Sounds like a CNU plot to me....lol  Joking aside, is this even possible.

Thanks


AU Pop - Below is the press release on CNU Athletics website this afternoon.  This is Family Weekend at CNU which usually results in the largest football crowd of the season with events prior to the game for parents, etc.  Tickets are sold to all weekend events (including the game) in advance meaning fewer are available on Saturday for walk-up sales.   

Saturday's Football Game Sold Out; Standing Room Only Tickets Still Available
10/8/2010 12:03:27 PM
NEWPORT NEWS, Va. – The Christopher Newport University athletic ticket office has announced that all seats have been sold for Saturday's home football game against Averett. Standing Room Only tickets will be sold at the athletic ticket office until 4:00 p.m. on Friday and at the gate beginning at 11:00 a.m. on Saturday.




Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 01:08:25 PM
Ferrum 7
Methodist 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 01:23:52 PM
Ferrum 7

Methodist 3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 01:26:53 PM
Ferrum 14

Methodist 3

1st quarter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 01:31:19 PM
Ferrum 21

Methodist 3

Mayo 66 yard punt return

End of the 1st quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 01:41:00 PM
Ferrum 24

Methodist 3

2nd quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 01:50:51 PM
Ferrum 24

Methodist 10

2nd qtr.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 02:06:53 PM
Ferrum 24

Methodist 10

Halftime
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 02:37:56 PM
Ferrum 24

Methodist 17

3rd Qtr.


Uh- Oh
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 02:44:17 PM
Ferrum 31

Methodist 17

Mayo  85 yard punt return for TD
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 09, 2010, 02:55:13 PM
A trick play on 4th and 1. Wow things never change.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 03:23:46 PM
Ferrum 31

Methodist 24

4th Quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 03:34:39 PM
Ferrum 31

Methodist 31

< 2 mins.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 03:45:07 PM
Ferrum 31

Methodist 31

Final

Going to OT...Methodist blocks Ferrum FG as time expires
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 03:50:48 PM
Ferrum 38

Methodist 31

OT...Methodist to take possession
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 03:53:49 PM
Ferrum 38

Methodist 38

2nd OT
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 04:01:44 PM
Ferrum38

Methodist 45

Ferrum to take possession in 2nd OT
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 09, 2010, 04:06:52 PM
SU (7) Maryville (6)

Good for the SU kids as they break the 13 game losing streak.

SU's defense came up big today.

MV's Williams was 13 of 17 for 125yds and no INT's.

MV's missed FG the 1st quarter is the difference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 04:07:58 PM
Methodist 45
Ferrum 45

End of 2nd OT
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 04:16:09 PM
Ferrum 51

Methodist 45

2 pt. conversion no good-

Methodist with the ball
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 04:23:13 PM
Final

Ferrum 51

Methodist 45

3 OT's

The battle of the retiring coaches is barely won by the Panthers
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2010, 07:56:08 PM
great game between the panthers and monarchs today...the monarchs were down 24-3 at one point, but battled back and were down 24-10 with the ball on the 10 just before half time - the monarch offense bogged down and the monarchs went for it on 4th and 4 with 1:00 left in the half rather than kicking a field goal - i questioned that call at the time...thought the  monarchs should take the points and go into halftime on a high note, especially knowing that they would get the ball first in the second half - first posession of the 2nd half, the monarchs marched down the field and scored to make it 24-17, held ferrum and were forced to punt, at which point mayo returned his second punt for a td on the day and fc went up 34-17 - i thought the game was over at that point, but the monarchs were game, came all the way back and tied it, only to see fc march down the field - the mu defense held strong, then blocked a short fg attempt with no time on the clock sending the game to ot...amazing

after trading td's in the first 2 ot's, fc scored and mu stopped the 2 pt conversion...the monarchs moved the ball to the fc 6 and had 1st and goal when the center snapped the ball about 10 yards over the qb's head, and the monarchs faced 2nd and goal from around the 25 - on 4th and 7, the monarchs threw an incomplete pass to end an epic game....that should have never gone to ot - had the monarchs kicked a fg back at the end of the first half, they would have won the game in regulation with the blocked fg attempt

some great individual numbers...subbing for travis murphy (who played injured last week, but was unable to go today), john glenn had a 300+ yard day - mayo was an absolute beast for ferrum, returning kicks (how many college qb's return punts...and do it VERY well?) and running the option with aplomb

all in all, great game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 09, 2010, 08:50:55 PM
Saw a very good football game today at CNU. Little warm but a beautiful day and as aways CNU was a great host.

AUPOP, was very impressed with Averett's running back and the defense played great. Logan S. made a great run on a kick off and I can understand why he was used at running back some. However he is a beast at LB. He and Mario complement each other very well. I was impressed with the kickers. The punter especially looked good. The field goal kicker started off with a bang but got a little shaky on two. His kickoffs were outstanding.
If memory serves me this was the first time Averett has beaten CNU on their home field. The two previous visits were close but no cigar. This time they got all gears going. Congrats to the Averett team and coaches. They looked exceptional today and hopefully they can stay healthy and continue playing strong.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2010, 08:54:58 PM
Narch,

Great recap. I listened to a wonderful first quarter, and a comfortable second quarter. Then it became anything from anxious to gut wrenching. I have seen 2 Ferrum games, and they have talent, but are not the complete team that I thought they would be. Mayo is a talent, but they cannot solely rely on him. I picked them to be 4-6, but I am not sure if that may not be a little optimistic.
How did they look to you? I know they have struggled with injuries, especially on the O line. They get back on the bus and head to Greensboro next week. Hopefully they can win that one too.
I am constantly frustrated by their secondary, as they seem to play a really "soft" coverage, and allow a lot of short passes underneath...I know this is a speed issue, and they give a big cushion, because they do not want to get beat deep.

At any rate, I am sure these two retiring coaches will never forget this game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 09, 2010, 08:56:00 PM
I forgot to pick and its a good thing. The only one I would have picked right was AU over CNU and NCWC over GC. The rest I would have taken a spanking on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2010, 09:47:29 PM
allen c - ferrum looked like the best 1 win team i've seen in a long time...there o-line is HUGE...the lg must be 6'3", 330...i'd run behind him all day - mayo has a cannon, but he sprays the ball too much...i'm sure fc doesn't throw the ball much in practice, either, so it's hard to develop as a passer in the fc system...he is so darn athletic...i wish he hadn't come back :)

i heard from a player that the monarchs thought they could throw at will against the panthers, and that proved to be true as glenn was 29-46 for 331 and 2 td's in his first collegiate start...it wasn't just short stuff, either...the monarchs had some big plays in the passing game

kickerdad...not sure if you saw, but i (unfortunately) went 4-0 today to improve to 22-4 in the pick 'ems on the season
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 10, 2010, 06:41:11 AM
CNU will go 3-7.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 10, 2010, 07:04:24 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 09, 2010, 08:50:55 PM
Saw a very good football game today at CNU. Little warm but a beautiful day and as aways CNU was a great host.

AUPOP, was very impressed with Averett's running back and the defense played great. Logan S. made a great run on a kick off and I can understand why he was used at running back some. However he is a beast at LB. He and Mario complement each other very well. I was impressed with the kickers. The punter especially looked good. The field goal kicker started off with a bang but got a little shaky on two. His kickoffs were outstanding.
If memory serves me this was the first time Averett has beaten CNU on their home field. The two previous visits were close but no cigar. This time they got all gears going. Congrats to the Averett team and coaches. They looked exceptional today and hopefully they can stay healthy and continue playing strong.

KickerDad, was a bit warm wasnt it, throw in the intensity from the game and it got down right hot. Huge win for AU. I'd be lieing if I said I wasnt nervous after that first quarter. CNU defense came to play and holding AU to 3 points after three trips to the red zone was huge on thier part. Very good game by both defenses. AU 's offense sputtered a bit but think you can credit that to a hug effort on the part of CNU. Cant say enough about AU's o line. Group has been banged up all year. At one point only had one "starter" on the field yesterday, but they have become a group with interchangebale parts. A man goes down and they are able to plug in a new on. Right now they have 7 or 8 "starters" and have to credit that to the new o line coach .They didnt have a great game, but got it done when it was needed. Wilson (rb) is a beast. Big, strong and has some foot speed but most important really reads his blocks well. Makes it a bit easier on the O line when he is carrying the ball. Beleive you are correct, first win for AU at CNU.

Had a chance to talk with a few of the CNU players after the game, obviosly they were dissapointed but this is a hungry group. Anyone that thinks CNU is dead and burried, I dont buy it. Their defense played great and the offense had its moments, few breaks go there way and who knows.

Great game at a outstanding venue, an AU win, and a beautiful day. Bonus points, a short drive home. Hard to beat that...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 10, 2010, 12:14:47 PM
I saw a bunch of coaches walk off the field upset and only 1 player and take a wild guess of who that player was? 1 oline starter was on the field at during some parts of the game and we lost is their any question that CNU's talent is in the dumps right now? As far as CNU being dead overall as a program I would say we must not be looking at the same team. A hungry group does not allow a team to play second and third string o line and your starting qb finishes the game. A hungry team makes #90 from AU regret the day he late hits a CNU qb with no knees for no reason. The o linemen from CNU let Long pick himself off of the turf as if he was not their teammate. Overall just a different team mentally and there is nothing the coaches can do about that. I am coming to homecoming in a couple of weeks strickly to catch up with some of my old brothers because what I saw yesterday was not CNU football. 
Quote from: AUPOP on October 10, 2010, 07:04:24 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 09, 2010, 08:50:55 PM

KickerDad, was a bit warm wasnt it, throw in the intensity from the game and it got down right hot. Huge win for AU. I'd be lieing if I said I wasnt nervous after that first quarter. CNU defense came to play and holding AU to 3 points after three trips to the red zone was huge on thier part. Very good game by both defenses. AU 's offense sputtered a bit but think you can credit that to a hug effort on the part of CNU. Cant say enough about AU's o line. Group has been banged up all year. At one point only had one "starter" on the field yesterday, but they have become a group with interchangebale parts. A man goes down and they are able to plug in a new on. Right now they have 7 or 8 "starters" and have to credit that to the new o line coach .They didnt have a great game, but got it done when it was needed. Wilson (rb) is a beast. Big, strong and has some foot speed but most important really reads his blocks well. Makes it a bit easier on the O line when he is carrying the ball. Beleive you are correct, first win for AU at CNU.

Had a chance to talk with a few of the CNU players after the game, obviosly they were dissapointed but this is a hungry group. Anyone that thinks CNU is dead and burried, I dont buy it. Their defense played great and the offense had its moments, few breaks go there way and who knows.

Great game at a outstanding venue, an AU win, and a beautiful day. Bonus points, a short drive home. Hard to beat that...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 10, 2010, 02:00:29 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 10, 2010, 12:14:47 PM
I saw a bunch of coaches walk off the field upset and only 1 player and take a wild guess of who that player was? 1 oline starter was on the field at during some parts of the game and we lost is their any question that CNU's talent is in the dumps right now? As far as CNU being dead overall as a program I would say we must not be looking at the same team. A hungry group does not allow a team to play second and third string o line and your starting qb finishes the game. A hungry team makes #90 from AU regret the day he late hits a CNU qb with no knees for no reason. The o linemen from CNU let Long pick himself off of the turf as if he was not their teammate. Overall just a different team mentally and there is nothing the coaches can do about that. I am coming to homecoming in a couple of weeks strickly to catch up with some of my old brothers because what I saw yesterday was not CNU football. 
Quote from: AUPOP on October 10, 2010, 07:04:24 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 09, 2010, 08:50:55 PM

KickerDad, was a bit warm wasnt it, throw in the intensity from the game and it got down right hot. Huge win for AU. I'd be lieing if I said I wasnt nervous after that first quarter. CNU defense came to play and holding AU to 3 points after three trips to the red zone was huge on thier part. Very good game by both defenses. AU 's offense sputtered a bit but think you can credit that to a hug effort on the part of CNU. Cant say enough about AU's o line. Group has been banged up all year. At one point only had one "starter" on the field yesterday, but they have become a group with interchangebale parts. A man goes down and they are able to plug in a new on. Right now they have 7 or 8 "starters" and have to credit that to the new o line coach .They didnt have a great game, but got it done when it was needed. Wilson (rb) is a beast. Big, strong and has some foot speed but most important really reads his blocks well. Makes it a bit easier on the O line when he is carrying the ball. Beleive you are correct, first win for AU at CNU.

Had a chance to talk with a few of the CNU players after the game, obviosly they were dissapointed but this is a hungry group. Anyone that thinks CNU is dead and burried, I dont buy it. Their defense played great and the offense had its moments, few breaks go there way and who knows.

Great game at a outstanding venue, an AU win, and a beautiful day. Bonus points, a short drive home. Hard to beat that...

54, you know your team better than I since I only see them once a year and read about them other times on this message board. But I can tell you from experience that chewing them out and talking about them on a public forum such as this is not going to help them or the coaches. From my seat your team looked very strong. A few breaks here and there and you win the game. Averett could have very easily been up 21 to 3 at halftime and instead it was an even game. These two teams have played each other tight over the past 6 years with exception of 3 years ago. You play a tough out of conference schedule and the conference itself has gotten closer to being equal over the past several years. Don't be too hard on them, they look good and you have some outstanding talent. They will come through for you soon.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 10, 2010, 02:02:47 PM
AUPOP, which player is your son. Also, you mention a short trip, where do you live? We are from Suffolk and CNU is only a 30 minute ride for us. Danville is another story.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 10, 2010, 02:07:26 PM
Quote from: narch on October 09, 2010, 09:47:29 PM
allen c - ferrum looked like the best 1 win team i've seen in a long time...there o-line is HUGE...the lg must be 6'3", 330...i'd run behind him all day - mayo has a cannon, but he sprays the ball too much...i'm sure fc doesn't throw the ball much in practice, either, so it's hard to develop as a passer in the fc system...he is so darn athletic...i wish he hadn't come back :)

i heard from a player that the monarchs thought they could throw at will against the panthers, and that proved to be true as glenn was 29-46 for 331 and 2 td's in his first collegiate start...it wasn't just short stuff, either...the monarchs had some big plays in the passing game

kickerdad...not sure if you saw, but i (unfortunately) went 4-0 today to improve to 22-4 in the pick 'ems on the season

Narch, ever since I came on these boards 6 years ago you have always been one of the top pickers. You know these teams very well and have a good nack for always being able to pick the right ones (even the out of conference games) I think you are a a fortune teller or run a casino. At any rate good job.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 10, 2010, 04:33:31 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 10, 2010, 02:02:47 PM
AUPOP, which player is your son. Also, you mention a short trip, where do you live? We are from Suffolk and CNU is only a 30 minute ride for us. Danville is another story.

65 belongs to me, part of the o line group. He set out yesterday with a bad neck. Thought it was going to kill him not being able to play in that game. He's had it circled since camp. Several of his ex teamates and a bunch of kids he played against in HS are on the CNU squad. So not only was a special game because it was CNU, also had the summer braggin rights on the line. LOL

We are up in New Kent. Took about an hour to get to to CNU so felt a little more like a "home game' than away. Although 5000 CNU fans quickly reminded me otherwise. Still, was nice not to have that 3 1/2 hour drive home.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 10, 2010, 06:50:50 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 10, 2010, 02:07:26 PMNarch, ever since I came on these boards 6 years ago you have always been one of the top pickers. You know these teams very well and have a good nack for always being able to pick the right ones (even the out of conference games) I think you are a a fortune teller or run a casino. At any rate good job.
i read d3football.com kickoff preview every year :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on October 10, 2010, 07:16:08 PM
Quote from: narch on October 10, 2010, 06:50:50 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on October 10, 2010, 02:07:26 PMNarch, ever since I came on these boards 6 years ago you have always been one of the top pickers. You know these teams very well and have a good nack for always being able to pick the right ones (even the out of conference games) I think you are a a fortune teller or run a casino. At any rate good job.
i read d3football.com kickoff preview every year :)

I'll give you +k for that, narch! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 11, 2010, 02:28:22 PM
haven't seen the weekly awards yet, but if mayo isn't optw....dude scored 2 rushing td's, had 2 punt return td's and had 2 passing td's...pretty slick
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on October 11, 2010, 08:13:57 PM
Kickerdad I don't want to sound rude but from what experience are you drawing from? Maybe 1-3 is acceptable at AU but excuse me for not wanting that for my program. As far as going easy on them I guess they should be elated to find out from a poster that AU played a ton of backups on the O line and they still won on the road at Pomoco. I have criticized effort and talent but not once have I negatively singled out any one player. I am a sales manager and work as a financial adviser part time and I am always truthful with people. If you don't produce the company will replace you and if you are not responsible with your money then you will end up broke. So excuse me for not lying to a 1-3 team by telling them they have outstanding talent when they don't and telling them that they will come through soon when the season is half way over. If the grown men in that locker room cannot handle the truth about their play or talent level then I feel sorry for them when they graduate and are welcomed to the real world.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 11, 2010, 08:50:25 PM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on October 11, 2010, 08:13:57 PM
Kickerdad I don't want to sound rude but from what experience are you drawing from? Maybe 1-3 is acceptable at AU but excuse me for not wanting that for my program. As far as going easy on them I guess they should be elated to find out from a poster that AU played a ton of backups on the O line and they still won on the road at Pomoco. I have criticized effort and talent but not once have I negatively singled out any one player. I am a sales manager and work as a financial adviser part time and I am always truthful with people. If you don't produce the company will replace you and if you are not responsible with your money then you will end up broke. So excuse me for not lying to a 1-3 team by telling them they have outstanding talent when they don't and telling them that they will come through soon when the season is half way over. If the grown men in that locker room cannot handle the truth about their play or talent level then I feel sorry for them when they graduate and are welcomed to the real world.
CNUsFinest54, My experience is 4 years high school varsity (all letter years), 4 years college (3 letter), 12 years coaching, (FYI, played all 8 years on the offense line at center and in high school both center and defense end). Two sons who played 4 years of high school football and lettered all 4 years and one son who played college football and lettered 4 years. (oldest son got hurt and unable to play college football) Retired from a major bank after 23 years and have returned to the financial world with a local credit union for the past 5 years. Sorry but that's all the experience I can muster.

I apoligize for my comments as it appears I have offended you and that was not my intention. NO I would not be happy if Averett was 1-3 (however I experienced an entire season when they lost every game and I made some negative comments that not only did the players see but so did the coaches and that didn't set well with either). Again, I apoligize for offending you, CNU fans, players, and coaches for saying they had talent and would come through soon.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 11, 2010, 10:43:05 PM
WOW!! Some mustard!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 12, 2010, 12:50:16 AM
CNUfinest54 - just get over it.  CNU lost last week to a better AU team and the score wasn't indictive of the play, it shouldn't have been that close. (AU missed 2 FG's and tied a fake inside the 10).  CNU had only 1 drive that amounted to anything all day.   

CNU's program is what, all of 10 years old?  It's a nice program (I think the support, i.e., attendence at the home games is great), but the reality is that's only a nice program,   You make it sound like the CNU program is on a par with Alabama, USC or Ohio State from an historical/expectations perspective.  I'm not aware of a modern day Grantland Rice waxing poetic about "Four Horsemen" galloping out of the gray skies (at least not yet outside of the Newport News area).  Teams some times experience a down year(s), it happens.

Now I've read all the posts recently that point to CNU's new academic requirements as one of the contributing factors that is hindering its ability to recruit talented players (among other reasons).   I believe you stated you played during the "glory years" at CNU, which was prior to these new standards, so what conclusion would a rational person draw from that? 

It's important to remember that when a paradigm shifts, prior achievements no longer matter. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 12, 2010, 08:15:00 AM
ALLEN
Nice color commentary this weekend.  :) Could be some broadcast in your future.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on October 12, 2010, 10:27:59 AM
WFU34 - Averett's scoring drives: a LONG 6 yd drive for a FG, another LONG 33 yd drive for a TD. 
Quote from: WFU34 on October 12, 2010, 12:50:16 AM
CNU had only 1 drive that amounted to anything all day.   
Averett also only had 1 drive that amounted to anything: an 81 yd drive for a TD.

CNU also missed a short (I believe 25 yd) FG and an extra point that would have tied the game at 10.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCSID on October 12, 2010, 04:33:27 PM
Archived game footage and the Tony Ierulli Show for Maryville College Football can now be seen at: http://www.knoxivi.com/maryville_college (http://www.knoxivi.com/maryville_college)

Go Scots!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on October 12, 2010, 08:13:42 PM
somebody with some teeth.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 13, 2010, 02:09:03 PM
I listened to the game(CNU vs. AU) this weekend and would have to say that both teams blew chances to score. I think CNU's D came through a few times in the clutch and they can take some good away from that. But as a whole you can't be happy at 1-3. No matter where you play. I have to agree with Finest. Football is a man's game and you have to be tough physically and mentally. If you can't take criticism then you're not cut out for it.

Was he being hard on the team? Yeah. Did they deserve it? Yeah.

I would also like to point out that we CNU supporters are quick to tout our team for good play and accomplishments. But we are also quick to call out our shortcomings.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2010, 05:10:10 PM
Quote from: wasper68 on September 30, 2010, 06:50:30 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 30, 2010, 12:10:49 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 29, 2010, 11:42:40 PM
UVa-Wise might be a candidate as well.
No men's or women's soccer.

http://www.uvawisecavs.com/



Would probably need to raise academic standards as well.


True. Looked at SCHEV stats last night...they have transfer students coming in with an average GPA of 1.82
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2010, 05:22:15 PM
Quote from: WFU34 on October 12, 2010, 12:50:16 AM
CNUfinest54 - just get over it.  CNU lost last week to a better AU team and the score wasn't indictive of the play, it shouldn't have been that close. (AU missed 2 FG's and tied a fake inside the 10).  CNU had only 1 drive that amounted to anything all day.   

CNU's program is what, all of 10 years old?  It's a nice program (I think the support, i.e., attendence at the home games is great), but the reality is that's only a nice program,   You make it sound like the CNU program is on a par with Alabama, USC or Ohio State from an historical/expectations perspective.  I'm not aware of a modern day Grantland Rice waxing poetic about "Four Horsemen" galloping out of the gray skies (at least not yet outside of the Newport News area).  Teams some times experience a down year(s), it happens.



Wow - I didn't read into that any inference to Alabama or OSU. I think I read into that AU was the better team and that is not acceptable to 54.  He's right - don't lie to a 1-3 team. Tell it like it is.

Also - I don't think 54 was upset with Kickerdad's comments. I think he was just trying to point out that you gotta man up and tell it like it is, don't sugar coat anything 'cuz the world once you graduate is not going to get any easier. %$ just wants his team to win and have some pride! That's all.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 14, 2010, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 12, 2010, 08:15:00 AM
ALLEN
Nice color commentary this weekend.  :) Could be some broadcast in your future.  :)

Thanks abnrgr!-

Don't know about all that, but I do enjoy writing my blog, and have been writing some articles for the William and Mary football blog.

Hope to add a video broadcast to my blog at some point, not sure when.

Panthers @ Pride...any guess how FC will do?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 14, 2010, 04:50:21 PM
They are still the Panthers. Struggling and MC up a little. May be tough but (Going against Narch) I will say FC +3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 15, 2010, 10:28:32 PM
couldn't post these in the pick 'ems, so i'll post it here...

averett, ncwc, mu and fc will be winners....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on October 16, 2010, 09:45:05 AM
Nice article on Averett on the DIII website.  Hopefully they keep it going.

For all the CNU fans - now's this is the week to rebound from your 1 - 4 start.  It will be interesting to see if all your "motivational" posts bear any results.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 16, 2010, 12:35:44 PM
I am going with Averett, NCWC, Ferrum and Shennadoah (upset of the week) At least I hope that  is the only upset. I always worry about Merryville. (did I spell that right?)

Also I second 34's thoughts......Ryan T. that was a great write up for Averett. Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3football101 on October 16, 2010, 03:06:27 PM
Yes "Merryville" is not a good team this year..... BUT! they're beating the best team in the conference right now 21-7!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 16, 2010, 03:11:24 PM
I have been trying to watch the FC Greensboro game, but the feed is down, as well as the live stats. Are there any updates? It was 21-12 Ferrum in the third qtr.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3football101 on October 16, 2010, 03:32:42 PM
Averett showing some fight, 21-14 MC with 7 mins to go.  Scots punting out of their own endzone.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 16, 2010, 03:34:37 PM
Congrats to CNU  over the Bishops. You desereved the win today. You don't win ball games if you don't come to play   CNU did and the Bishops didn't.  Nice win for CNU!  You can't wait till 5 minutes to play in the game befor you start! I take nothing away from CNU, cause you deserved the win! Final score CNU 23, Bishops 15.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3football101 on October 16, 2010, 03:42:05 PM
Averett stopped inside the redzone on 4th down for the second straight drive, Maryville ball. Still 21-14

I dont know why I decided to watch this game today but glad I did, its a great one so far!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3football101 on October 16, 2010, 03:48:30 PM
Averett stopped again in Maryville territory, Maryville goes 3 and out... Averett ball with 44 seconds left down 7.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3football101 on October 16, 2010, 03:53:52 PM
Maryville wins 21-14.  Huge upset in the USA South.  Anxious to see how this conference plays out the rest of the year.  Cant wait!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 16, 2010, 08:57:53 PM
wow...this conference is wide open right now...

the monarchs and hornets are locked in a defensive struggle...14-10 su in the 4th
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 16, 2010, 09:24:19 PM
Unbelievable game, MU down 21-10 scores and converts 2pt conversion to make it 21-18 and recovers on-side kick.

3rd down and 10 on SU's 11

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 16, 2010, 09:25:48 PM
4th down ... MU looking to tie the game with FG to send it to OT?

MU player down and some SU fans yelling that he's faking.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 16, 2010, 09:27:59 PM
MU missed FG wide left ... SU wins!

Wild game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 16, 2010, 09:30:34 PM
once again fg's cost the monarchs the game...if the mu coaching staff had elected for a fg earlier in the 4th when they had a drive stall inside the 10, perhaps that attempt from mosko would have been a game winning attempt

murphy had a pretty special game...240 yards and 2 td's through the air and 75 yards on the ground in a losing effort...this team needs to learn how to finish!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 17, 2010, 09:28:02 AM
Classy post, Bishop64....nice way to celebrate CNU's 100th game.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 17, 2010, 10:25:38 AM
To the CNU fan I talked with at half time yesterday, if you post on this site, I would like to tell you that I enjoyed meeting you and talking about the two programs. Sorry we did not exchange names. Maybe we can the next time around. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 18, 2010, 05:54:43 AM
Haven't posted in a while due to new job, but a big congrats to the Fighting Scots on their win over #1 Averett on Saturday.  Very exciting game to watch on video stream.   Freshman QB Williams is maturing every game.  3 TD passes & no Int's.  Offensive line probably played their best game of season & play calling was very good.  Still the "O" has to improve their short yardage offense.  Keep getting stuffed on 3rd & 1. 

Defense really held Averett's high powered offense in check for most of the game.  Great job by the "D" with 2 red zone stops in the 4th quarter.  Thought the defensive line stood out by putting alot of pressure on Averett's 2 QB's.  DB Crowell made several big pass breakups in 4th quarter.

Not noticed in newspaper accounts was the performance by Punter Sandmeyer who put 3 punts inside Averett's 15 yard line....

Enjoy the win, but we need to get ready for NCW who will probably be fired up after losing to CNU on Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on October 18, 2010, 09:53:04 AM
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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 18, 2010, 02:18:41 PM
There you go captains! It ain't pretty but a win is a win. Way to man up and get it done. Who said a lil criticism was a bad thing? Some say we are being "too hard" on the boys. I say we are putting a fire under their asses. Keep it up. We're still in this fight. Bring that fire back to POMOCO next week.

Averett still controls their own post season fate. Win out and they're in. It's gonna be tough with 3 of 4 games on the road and the final one against the NCWC Bishops.

Maybe the most exciting season in years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 22, 2010, 01:14:21 AM
SU's defense playing with a lot of confidence now.


GETTING INTO THE ACT: via www.nvdaily.com (http://www.nvdaily.com)

"I think everyone's real confident," SU's Larry Gibbs said. "And we're at an all-time high as far as, defensively, we're almost to our potential.

"We're getting a lot better and we know we can stop anybody in the conference."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2010, 02:16:51 AM
Hi -- can you tell us where you got that from? If it's a newspaper, I need you to post a link and then I need to edit your copy/paste down to preserve their copyright.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 22, 2010, 01:41:21 PM
It will be interesting to see the new look CNU offense in person tomorrow. A couple Freshmen looked like they stepped up. It will be bittersweet not seeing Matt Long in uniform ever again. Also I understand Chris Nickel's career is over as well (I think I read that somewhere). My hat is off to those guys. Great job! Not sure who will start at QB, I haven't heard anything. But I would give the Freshman Lyn Garner the nod. He won last week after Long had to end his career and WoMo was unable to play.

Interesting enough, the average attendance at CNU home games is second highest in history and we haven't had homecoming weekend yet. This week will be light as students are on fall break.

Looking forward to a fun day. We need our first home win!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 22, 2010, 05:50:46 PM
Now that you can see the full versions of content free again. Here's some links:

MC beats AU column 10/21
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20101021/SPORTS0104/310209965/-1/rss (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20101021/SPORTS0104/310209965/-1/rss)

SU beats MC column 10/10
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20101010/SPORTS0104/310109960/0/rss (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20101010/SPORTS0104/310109960/0/rss)

SU beats MC game story 10/10
http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20101010/SPORTS/310109959/-1/rss (http://www.thedailytimes.com/article/20101010/SPORTS/310109959/-1/rss)

I don't pick them, but Its been noted before that either NCW plays much better against MC home rather than in Maryville or the Scots don't make the trip to NCW very well. The games at NCW have been blowout wins by the Bishops while the matter has gone to the fourth quarter or four overtimes at MC

This thing is as wide open as it gets this year and Im not sure if its parity or maybe universal lack of consistency is a form of parity. I would think Saturday would help settle some things out and provide bit of separation but another upset and we might start scratching our heads on tie breakers.

NOTES: Mc- NCW advance available Saturday at thedailytimes.com/sports ... watch the game on knoxivi.com (which works ok on a computer but has been slow occasionally on the droid or iphone, maybe they'll get a lower res no sound version for phone use soon) ... belated congrats to Coach davis on battle of the retirees victory ... Shenandoah won at MC not from defending the pass but by eating the clock running the ball very well, MC's freshman Williams went 13-for-17 for 125 yards with no picks against SU, while 17-of-31 with 4 picks against Methodist ... Ierulli compared Averett's situation "a trap game' to that of South Carolina later Sat night, coming off big win and then getting a team who you know has potential but doesnt have anything on tape you can show your players to prove that -- mainly because the offensive line starters have really only been practicing together as a whole since MU loss , due to injuries, some going back to camp. ... Enjoy your game wheverver you are and whoever you're playing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Leatherhelmet on October 23, 2010, 03:46:19 PM
Final, Averett 7 Methodist 3.  Obviously, a defensive struggle although Averett knelt it down to finish the game at the Monarchs' one.
0-0 at the half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2010, 08:06:34 PM
the monarchs literally let one slip through their fingers today...a dropped td that turned into a missed fg (the receiver must have been shocked to be all alone in the endzone), at least 3 drive-ending drops by wr's, a fumble that killed a drive - not to mention the fact that the monarchs were 1-4 in the red zone and special teams continuously gave the cougars a short field (like on the 18 yard td drive)

of course, au had it's share of miscues, as well...a pick thrown in monarch territory, a kick return called back by a (blatant) hold and 3 missed fg's of their own, but this game was the monarchs to win

a golden opportunity to win a homecoming game in front of a nice crowd and against an upper-tier conference team was not to be, despite numerous opportunities...as i've said, this team needs to learn how to finish...if they can, they'll win a game or two more this season
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUPOP on October 24, 2010, 07:18:02 AM
Quote from: narch on October 23, 2010, 08:06:34 PM
the monarchs literally let one slip through their fingers today...a dropped td that turned into a missed fg (the receiver must have been shocked to be all alone in the endzone), at least 3 drive-ending drops by wr's, a fumble that killed a drive - not to mention the fact that the monarchs were 1-4 in the red zone and special teams continuously gave the cougars a short field (like on the 18 yard td drive)

of course, au had it's share of miscues, as well...a pick thrown in monarch territory, a kick return called back by a (blatant) hold and 3 missed fg's of their own, but this game was the monarchs to win

a golden opportunity to win a homecoming game in front of a nice crowd and against an upper-tier conference team was not to be, despite numerous opportunities...as i've said, this team needs to learn how to finish...if they can, they'll win a game or two more this season



Narch,

Think you could have sustituted Cougars for Monarchs and you still would have been right. Both teams continuosly shot themselves in the foot with silly penalties and missed chances. The AU offense has been sputtering lately and not sure what has happened. Dont know if its lack of execution on thier part or great prep and execution by the opposing defenses, either way they need to get back to thier early season form  to make a run at the tittle.

Extremely hard hiting game. the Qb for Methodist is tuff as nails, young man took a beating but kept bouncing back. Monarch D laid out a few good ones of thier own. I'd said both teams knew they had been in a battle when it was over.

Great hospitality by the Methodist crowd. Got to sample some Monarch cooking in the parking lot before the game, had Monarchs offering us food as soon as we got out of the car. guess we looked hungry. After baking in the stands the first half we moved up the hill to the shade. One Monarch supporter surrender his lawn chair to my wife for the entire secound half. She has more steel in her back than our car so needless to say we were very appreciative. Looking forward to coming back to MU for our senior season.

Best of luck the rest of the way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 24, 2010, 10:33:15 AM
Quote from: AUPOP on October 24, 2010, 07:18:02 AMThink you could have sustituted Cougars for Monarchs and you still would have been right. Both teams continuosly shot themselves in the foot with silly penalties and missed chances.
i think the monarch feet have more holes in them...the dropped td pass was especially costly, but you're right...nobody grabbed that game by the horns

Quote from: AUPOP on October 24, 2010, 07:18:02 AMGreat hospitality by the Methodist crowd. Got to sample some Monarch cooking in the parking lot before the game, had Monarchs offering us food as soon as we got out of the car. guess we looked hungry. After baking in the stands the first half we moved up the hill to the shade. One Monarch supporter surrender his lawn chair to my wife for the entire secound half. She has more steel in her back than our car so needless to say we were very appreciative. Looking forward to coming back to MU for our senior season.
glad to hear the monarch fans treated you right...i've always worried about the visiting fans being on the same side, and to be honest, it's the au game i worry about most...the averett fans tend to be more vocal than some others (and i mean that in a positive way)...always seems like a recipe for disaster, but thankfully, it hasn't been to this point
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: labart96 on October 24, 2010, 11:21:47 AM
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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 24, 2010, 02:23:50 PM
Conference looks interesting....4 way tie for first. FC comes to CNU for homecoming next weekend. I wonder if FC will punt to Kentel Noel. amazing game!

http://d3football.com/seasons/2010/contrib/2010102312vdmq (http://d3football.com/seasons/2010/contrib/2010102312vdmq)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUcougar11 on October 24, 2010, 11:10:26 PM
I must say that after reading this board for the last 3 years, I'm glad to be finally posting on the board. really excited to be a part of the community...

PS: AUPOP and kickerdad you got another Averett Cougar on your side!!! and with a little inside insight on the team too (ex-player)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2010, 08:19:33 PM
3 punt returns....2 angles for each return. 4 key blocks by #29 Ryan Wever. The last punt return he has 2 nice blocks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X55JLVi2Aa0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X55JLVi2Aa0)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 29, 2010, 02:47:04 PM
3 conference players named to D3football.com Team of the Week

http://d3football.com/awards/tow/2010/week8 (http://d3football.com/awards/tow/2010/week8)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Uncle Jessie on October 29, 2010, 08:48:35 PM
Hey D3football.com  I was watching a UFL game last night on t.v. and was wondering if any d3 football players are on any rosters. Do you know of any?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 30, 2010, 10:48:57 AM
Quote from: Uncle Jessie on October 29, 2010, 08:48:35 PM
Hey D3football.com  I was watching a UFL game last night on t.v. and was wondering if any d3 football players are on any rosters. Do you know of any?

about a month ago I looked at all the rosters. I really don't remember any d3 players. Could have been. But mostly I was impressed with the # of BCS schools represented.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 30, 2010, 05:46:08 PM
wow....board is dead on game day. CNU wins homecoming game against Ferrum 27-21. CNU now 4-1 in conference. Cheer on SU tonight!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 30, 2010, 06:54:20 PM
85,

I was there, and for awhile, I was hopeful....then came the third quarter, and the size and speed of CNU wore down the Panthers. I felt like Ferrum showed well, but are not as big or as fast...especially fast across the roster as CNU is.
I thought Mayo looked good through the air, but the Ferrum running game was really held in check.

Again I am disappointed in the outcome, but there was a lot of good sportsmanship shown, and I only had to drive about 14 miles, rather than 5 hours!

I can only hope....maybe next year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 30, 2010, 07:37:56 PM
Just found a nice article about Ferrum's Coach Davis.

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/college/wb/265532
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 30, 2010, 08:56:41 PM
Allen C,

I agree. except for a very limited # of plays, CNU was able to shut down the FC running game. But the QB was lighting up the secondary.......he should throw more! He can do more than run. I was impressed with his passing ability. Good receivers too. Turnovers hurt, obviously. FC never gave up. I was worried when they pulled within 6 and then got the on sides kick.

I've watched 5 CNU games this year and they seem to be clicking a lot better the past few weeks. Of course, not playing Wesley or Salisbury helps. But even so, the defensive schemes seemt to be working and the O-line has become unbelievable in the last 3 games. The CNU QB today played very well....no mistakes...checked off on some plays. And #5 finally seems to have adjusted from QB to RB. 140+ yds today!


Very fun game to watch....competitve!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 30, 2010, 09:25:12 PM
Looking good in Shenandoah right now!! 24-14 with 5 min left in game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 30, 2010, 09:33:16 PM
I have to say you are right,and I thought your QB was strong, but I was expecting Long. Is he hurt? Ferrum's FB went down again, and while he appeared to be ok, he never returned to the game- I doubt it would have helped.
Mayo is at 999 yards passing yards this year. Over the next two games he should easily set the mark for the most passing yards over the last 6 years. I agree he should pass more...We will see what the future holds as there is a coaching change coming.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 30, 2010, 09:40:52 PM
Long's career is sadly over.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 30, 2010, 09:45:26 PM
YES!!!! SU defeats AU!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 30, 2010, 09:59:52 PM
So Am I correct that CNU is technically in first place in the conference if you look at the tie breaker?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 30, 2010, 10:02:28 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 30, 2010, 09:59:52 PM
So Am I correct that CNU is technically in first place in the conference if you look at the tie breaker?


correct-a-mundo
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 31, 2010, 10:27:25 AM
[urlhttp://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt-cnu-gamer-1031-20101030,0,7277704.story[/url]

story about CNU/FC game. CNU held FC to 30 yds rushing in second half? wow!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 01, 2010, 10:08:14 PM
Go Bishops! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SaintsFAN on November 02, 2010, 11:34:44 AM
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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 05, 2010, 05:48:26 PM
All right CNU fans, You guys beat us fair and square....but I've got to pull for Maryville! We can't play  another game like CNU's. We have to win the rest of them and hope that Maryville helps us out.. Go Bishops and Maryville!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 05, 2010, 11:49:42 PM
Should be a good game at Honaker Field against CNU.  Both teams seem to matchup well.   MC needs to have their offense productive from the very beginning.  I know who NCW is pulling for since this may be CNU's last serious challenge toward the conference title......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 06, 2010, 09:05:57 AM
So is Averett.  If Maryville is going to win a game - make it this weekend (that's the least they can do for making Maryville look so go a couple of weeks ago in Danville).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 06, 2010, 02:31:49 PM
CNU up 21-0 over Maryville. Looking nice on the internet feed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 06, 2010, 04:19:24 PM
I just watched almost all of the Ferrum @ Averett game, and Ferrum looked really strong....on both sides of the ball. This was the consistent team effort I had been expecting, and it finally happened today! Although Averett had a lot of yards through the air, Ferrum still held them to 13 points.
Unfortunately, Ferrum will not contend for the conference championship, as CNU won their game against Maryville.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2010, 05:10:27 PM
CNU wins 42-10.

nom nom nom......the sound of me eating crow with this fork i took out a few weeks ago when I thought CNU was done. Wow! The team has really pulled together. Looking forward to next weekend!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 06, 2010, 05:53:40 PM
cnu85, looks like you might get an extra game if cnu wins the conference.  must be a pleasant surprise for all the cnu fans.  has the team improved that much or is the usa south down this year?  the south will be real interesting as there seems to be no one near texas so umhb and hardin simmons will likely play each other in the first round which would be a shame as they are clearly 2 of the 3 best teams in the south.  good luck next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2010, 06:33:26 PM
W'Dad.....to answer your question....I think it is both. When Long went out, and after losing to AU, the team could have packed it in or pull it together. They decided to pull it together. The So QB had 4 TDs in first half today!. A win next week means CNU goes to NCAA playoffs. Hope we don't see you again! (nothing personal!).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 06, 2010, 06:43:18 PM
just asked ralph some questions about who gets in and how things shake out on the south region playoff  thread.  based on who is getting in i figure wesley will play either cnu or muhlenburg.  muhlenburg looks better on paper, so i think you may be making a trip to dover in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2010, 09:38:18 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 06, 2010, 06:43:18 PM
just asked ralph some questions about who gets in and how things shake out on the south region playoff  thread.  based on who is getting in i figure wesley will play either cnu or muhlenburg.  muhlenburg looks better on paper, so i think you may be making a trip to dover in a couple of weeks.

CNU may be making a road trip....but not me....I'm a bad luck charm for CNU road games (I think 2-4).....in their history they have given up 50 points in 3 games.....2 of them were road games I went to.....one on my birthday this year - at Salisbury. The other was UMHB. I'm staying home after next week, should they win. Still have to take care of business next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 06, 2010, 09:40:14 PM
really disappointing end to coach sypult's monarch stadium career today...the monarchs really ran the ball well, but couldn't stop the pride when it mattered...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 07, 2010, 05:02:39 AM
Its a shame he lost his last home game, but wouldn't it be nice for them to send him out a winner next week? I just hope Ferrum can do the same for Coach Davis!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 07, 2010, 06:57:37 AM
Been off the boards for several weeks. Wife been in hospital with heart issues. Trying to get back to normal (what ever that is).

To all the Averett faithfull, what has happened?  I have been out of touch since the CNU game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: WFU34 on November 07, 2010, 09:18:05 AM
Kickerdad - Last year Averett won a lot of close games, i.e., Maryville in the last minute, Ferrum in 3OT's, Shenandoah by 2 (when they missed a 2 point conversion).  Also they were way ahead in the turnover battle. 

This year, while they played hard, they had several injuries and some of the breaks didn't go their way.  I'm sure they will give a good effort next week in an effort to be 6 - 4.  While I'm sure they're disappointed how the season has turned out, they did beat what appears to be 2 conference champions, Washington & Lee and CNU (pending).  Overtime, they may look back at that with some satisfaction of accomplishment.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 08, 2010, 01:56:43 PM
The way, CNU looked saturday was amazing. It was 35 nothing at the half. Then CNU put the brakes on. Keep this momentum rolling on into Methodist. Nothing is written in stone so we need to keep our focus.

One win and we're in. It's that simple.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Frank Rossi on November 10, 2010, 02:30:46 PM
We've got Regional Rankings... Final time for the season that we'll see them:

http://d3blogs.com/d3football/2010/11/10/ncaas-third-regional-rankings/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 11, 2010, 09:28:08 AM
ADMIRAL PAPI
Happy Veterans day to you and the posters I do not know who are vets. Thanks for standing with me and Papi
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 13, 2010, 02:15:37 PM
CNU is up 35-3!!!! 2nd Quarter. Wow, this team has come together.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 13, 2010, 03:45:10 PM
And they will come home togeather next Saturday!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 13, 2010, 04:01:35 PM
REAL,

what is that supposed to mean?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 13, 2010, 04:06:07 PM
CNU wins. Final score CNU 49 Methodist 10. 7th conference championship in 10 years. Nice work boys but the party has just started. Looks like we might get Wesley again. It would be a nice match up to see exactly how far this team has come. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 13, 2010, 04:21:54 PM
Congratulations to CNU on the auto bid for playoffs. Good luck and go as far as you can. Congrats to the Bishops on another Conference Championship (Co). A dreaded 5 turnovers will kill you, but it happens in the game of football1 :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2010, 04:33:16 PM
Thanks Bishop. "whoda thunk" after week 5 or 6 when CNU was 1-4 and 1-1 in conference with a road game next against NCW, the pre-season favorites, that the season would end this way? Not me, for sure. All I can say is  - wow. LEt's see what happens next week.

KIR - at least there will be about 50+ guys on a team bus next Sat. What team bus is your nephew gonna be on next weekend? Oh...yeah...thought so.....Keep hating, we don't give a rats a#$! Paha!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2010, 04:35:26 PM
I thought it was a very nice touch at the CNU game in the 4th qt when the PA announcer recognized the Methodist coach and wished him well on his retirement.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 13, 2010, 04:41:04 PM
CNU 85 and the rest of the CNU folks, a couple of wins in the playoffs  would make the USASouth look better!!! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2010, 04:42:55 PM
My version of "C'Mon, Man!". Just looked at PAt Coleman's projected bracket for the playoffs next week. He has all teams mentioned in the bracket except....USA South Winner.....really? CNU on a 4 game conference win streak, tearing up the conference at home and on the road....and this week playng at home against 2-7 Methodist....a win and they are in.....and you can't find it in you to just make the prediction that the Captains will win? Really? C'MON, MAN!!!

:D - overall nice predictions!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 13, 2010, 04:49:47 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 13, 2010, 04:42:55 PM
My version of "C'Mon, Man!". Just looked at PAt Coleman's projected bracket for the playoffs next week. He has all teams mentioned in the bracket except....USA South Winner.....really? CNU on a 4 game conference win streak, tearing up the conference at home and on the road....and this week playng at home against 2-7 Methodist....a win and they are in.....and you can't find it in you to just make the prediction that the Captains will win? Really? C'MON, MAN!!!

:D - overall nice predictions!

As I said 85, A couple of wins will make the Conference look better! I agree with you. I think it might be related to conference respect rather than lack of respect for CNU...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2010, 05:09:07 PM
I agree with you Bishop. It is a lack of respect for the conference and I'm not disagreeing with the level of respect......I was just having fun with Pat....pick somebody! C'mon, man!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 13, 2010, 05:33:09 PM
Congrats to CNU and NCWC.

Crazy season, kept everyone guessing.


Hope all you veterans had a well deserved Veterans Day. Some old friends that were lost were on my mind all week. God Bless to all the familys of Veterans as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 13, 2010, 05:48:21 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 13, 2010, 04:42:55 PM
My version of "C'Mon, Man!". Just looked at PAt Coleman's projected bracket for the playoffs next week. He has all teams mentioned in the bracket except....USA South Winner.....really? CNU on a 4 game conference win streak, tearing up the conference at home and on the road....and this week playng at home against 2-7 Methodist....a win and they are in.....and you can't find it in you to just make the prediction that the Captains will win? Really? C'MON, MAN!!!

:D - overall nice predictions!

I did that because it didn't matter for seeding purposes or travel purposes who would win. Sorry.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 13, 2010, 05:50:46 PM
My nephew is doin fine 85. He is a proud dad and is coming back to the 757 next year. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 13, 2010, 08:24:52 PM
cnu85, nice season.  unless something has drastically changed from week one and cnu gets wesley in the first round, it will likely be a one and done for cnu.  but after the salisbury game, i dont think anyone would have thought cnu would even be in this position.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 13, 2010, 08:43:40 PM
Hey Greenleaf,Tunde has nothing to do with this....but to answer your question FOR NOW he's on the bus with the Richmond Raiders of the SIFL playing professional indoor football....getting a paycheck. http://www.richmondraidersprofootball.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=112&Itemid=38.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 13, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
congrats to the capts...

tough season for the monarchs

thanks for the great memories coach sy...19 years of helping young men learn about football and life

coach eavenson...let's get this thing going in the right direction!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2010, 09:52:51 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on November 13, 2010, 08:43:40 PM
Hey Greenleaf,Tunde has nothing to do with this....but to answer your question FOR NOW he's on the bus with the Richmond Raiders of the SIFL playing professional indoor football....getting a paycheck. http://www.richmondraidersprofootball.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=112&Itemid=38.

What U doin??????

Finally! Good to see he is on a team. I may go up an watch one next year. I hope he's not on the bus now.....he'll be too tired to run once he plays in 2011. Oh - btw...I'm not Greenleaf.


I love your optimism..."FOR NOW".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 13, 2010, 09:56:42 PM
That is not what WE got out of your post. I think you were trying to imply something else.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 13, 2010, 09:59:34 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 13, 2010, 04:33:16 PM
Thanks Bishop. "whoda thunk" after week 5 or 6 when CNU was 1-4 and 1-1 in conference with a road game next against NCW, the pre-season favorites, that the season would end this way? Not me, for sure. All I can say is  - wow. LEt's see what happens next week.

KIR - at least there will be about 50+ guys on a team bus next Sat. What team bus is your nephew gonna be on next weekend? Oh...yeah...thought so.....Keep hating, we don't give a rats a#$! Paha!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2010, 10:05:07 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on November 13, 2010, 09:56:42 PM
That is not what WE got out of your post. I think you were trying to imply something else.

Nope....wasn't trying anything. For a long time you kept saying Tunde would be playing somewhere but never said where.....now you did, so I'm happy for him. And I took from your "FOR NOW" comment that you are hoping this is a first stop of better things....so I said I love your optimism. Don't be so cynical and full of hate. Tunde wore the Captain Blue....so I'll always hope for the best. I would also have thought that instead of you bashing CNU since he left, that you would be more supportive of the team that gave him a shot. SC State and Cincinnati didn't, but CNU did. How about some love for the Captains?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 13, 2010, 10:13:14 PM
I'm not bashing anything. For what it is worth congrats to CNU. But I know the teams they played did not have the same players as they did when Tunde played. NCW does not have the same players. Methodist not the same players. I think you know that to. I'm a Florida State  fan and a Cowboys and we suck. And I talk about them too. But until the o line stop being boys and be men in the trenches, then they can beat a Wesley.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2010, 10:21:41 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on November 13, 2010, 10:13:14 PM
I'm not bashing anything. For what it is worth congrats to CNU. But I know the teams they played did not have the same players as they did when Tunde played. NCW does not have the same players. Methodist not the same players. I think you know that to. I'm a Florida State  fan and a Cowboys and we suck. And I talk about them too. But until the o line stop being boys and be men in the trenches, then they can beat a Wesley.

I think it wold be safe to say that in order to beat a #3 team in nation, the entire team, not just O-line, would have to play better. Anyway - tell Tunde good luck in Richmond. Now that we know where he's playing I'm sure more people will be keeping an eye on his progress.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 13, 2010, 10:24:19 PM
Good luck next week also. Like talking football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2010, 01:34:13 PM
from now on, please refer to me as CNU Ochocinco!  :D ;D :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 14, 2010, 02:56:16 PM
Hilarious- Good Luck to CNU next week. I have to say I was disappointed that Ferrum fell in it's season finale, and the last game for coach Davis. I am already looking forward to next season. I know they will lose a lot of their D line, but I have to believe they will be a much stronger team next year. Mark it down now- they very well be the team to beat. But til then, I really hope CNU goes up to Delaware and stomps Wesley....but a one point win will do!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2010, 03:56:10 PM
CNU gets to take it's second plane ride to Texas. I hope the game is a little better than the last one. One difference is that I will not be on the plane this time to go watch. I will be on a nice little vacation celebrating year #25 with the Mrs.

But I will sneak a peak or two at the d3football.com scoreboard on my blackberry!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2010, 04:01:22 PM
PAt C - I will say that today's brief selection show on ESPN News was your best. Very nice job!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 14, 2010, 05:00:00 PM
cnu85, enjoy the 25 celebration and the unexpected trip to the playoffs this year.  you never know, but it will be a tough task.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2010, 07:30:50 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 14, 2010, 05:00:00 PM
cnu85, enjoy the 25 celebration and the unexpected trip to the playoffs this year.  you never know, but it will be a tough task.

Thanks! Never would have thought it after that start. Kudos to team...players and coaches!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2010, 07:37:19 PM
Narch, this one is for you. Kelchner gives Sypult game ball.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt-cnu-methodist-notes-20101113,0,5920211.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt-cnu-methodist-notes-20101113,0,5920211.story)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2010, 08:53:21 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 14, 2010, 07:37:19 PM
Narch, this one is for you. Kelchner gives Sypult game ball.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt-cnu-methodist-notes-20101113,0,5920211.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt-cnu-methodist-notes-20101113,0,5920211.story)
coach kelchner is a class act, even if his school doesn't belong in the conference :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 15, 2010, 12:08:09 AM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2010, 08:53:21 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 14, 2010, 07:37:19 PM
Narch, this one is for you. Kelchner gives Sypult game ball.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt-cnu-methodist-notes-20101113,0,5920211.story (http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt-cnu-methodist-notes-20101113,0,5920211.story)
coach kelchner is a class act, even if his school doesn't belong in the conference :)
Don't worry. I don't think that they will be in the conference much longer.

JMO  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU Dad on November 15, 2010, 01:10:15 PM
CNU OchoCinco, I got a CMON Man for you...It goes out to KIR 3-7 just sayin!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2010, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: CNU Dad on November 15, 2010, 01:10:15 PM
CNU OchoCinco, I got a CMON Man for you...It goes out to KIR 3-7 just sayin!

Bahahahaha  - I think maybe he even said 2-8 at one time...maybe not.....somebody did.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on November 15, 2010, 10:41:01 PM
Can I get a score???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 16, 2010, 11:44:16 AM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on November 15, 2010, 10:41:01 PM
Can I get a score???

saturday at about 3pm Central Time.  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on November 16, 2010, 05:12:12 PM
So looking at how it finished up and what I thought in preseason, Ferrum did much better with Mayo than I expected and Averett seemed to fade off some after winning at CNU.

Was thinking on this again, if the years from the preseason pub are right the new coaching seniority board looks like this. With a plus one going to the years for the coaches who are coaching next season.

CNU - Kelchner (Susquehana '82) -- 10 years
AU -- Denlevy (Otterbein '87) -- 9
SU -- Barnes (James Madison '82) -- 9
MC -- Ierulli (Maryville '79) -- 8
NCW -- Henninger (Wittenberg '96) -- 3
GC -- Hunt  (Glenville State '75) -- 2
MU Eavenson (Methodist '96) -- 0
FC -- 0

Which drops the average tenure from 9.25 seasons to 5.4 seasons for the coaches to be the head coach at their respective schools. But Eavenson doubles the number of coaches directing programs at their alma mater. I expect that number could go up in a decade or so, as the younger programs begin to produce coaches.


For those who have no playoff game to look forward to, except just favoring CNU to win in Texas for conference pride, the senior classic has a long list of conference players invited to Salem for that all-star game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: umhb2001 on November 16, 2010, 09:05:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 14, 2010, 03:56:10 PM
CNU gets to take it's second plane ride to Texas. I hope the game is a little better than the last one. One difference is that I will not be on the plane this time to go watch. I will be on a nice little vacation celebrating year #25 with the Mrs.

But I will sneak a peak or two at the d3football.com scoreboard on my blackberry!

You can follow me on twitter if you want, cc4him2804, and I'll be putting updates on there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 16, 2010, 11:11:50 PM
Congrats to CNU on winning the conference and good luck in Texas.....  Your RB Gaines is the real deal and very impressed in his ability to break tackles.  Very physical offensive line and solid defense.

As for the Fighting Scots, very good road wins against Averett and Ferrum this season.  Despite all the injuries, we played tough throughout the year and should have a very good team coming back in 2011.  QB Conner and DB Christy took medical redshirts this season.

Finally, class act by Coach Ierulli and team after the post-game handshakes after the Ferrum game.  Ierulli led his team down to Ferrum's end of the field and congratulated Coach Davis on his career.  The team gave him a round of applause and everyone shook Coach Davis' hand as the Scots left the field.

The conference is going to greatly miss Coach Davis and Coach Sypult from Methodist.  Both outstanding coaches and leaders.........
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 17, 2010, 03:14:06 PM
Deep in the heart of Texaaaaas. This is it. How far have we come? Only a few more days and we will know. I hope we can conjure up some of that magic from 2006 when we shocked The Crusaders 15-10. One thing is certain. If the boys win they will have the thickest steaks they have ever eaten for the post game dinner(That's an old Kelchner promise).

Get at 'em boys. 4 quarters. Non stop.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: umhb2001 on November 18, 2010, 07:20:48 AM
An article by Eric Drennan of the Temple paper may be of some interest to you.

http://www.tdtnews.com/story/2010/11/18/70304
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 19, 2010, 12:03:16 PM
I have been working like crazy but I wanted to say that I am so proud of the Captains. A lot of people including myself wrote you guys off after the Averett loss but sometime after that you guys got tough, nasty and started playing with a little CNU swagger. Be proud of your Conference title but remember now you carry the weight of the entire conference on your shoulders. No extra pressure, heck thats why you guys won all those games right? Good luck in Texas and continue to fight hard.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: umhb2001 on November 20, 2010, 10:38:19 AM
I hope all CNU players and parents made it to central Texas safely. If you need suggestions for some place to eat, let me know. See ya at the field.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: umhb2001 on November 20, 2010, 04:33:39 PM
Tough day for the  CNU today. They came out to play, and things looked good after that fumble in the first, but it just didn't work out.

I hope all of you make it home safely. Have a great off-season and good luck next year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 20, 2010, 04:55:41 PM
was keeping track of score via blackberry while hitting an Irish Pub in Asheville NC. 21-0 wih 9 min left in first...? ouch. 59-7.  Anybody who was there....was it a repeat of 2007? Did CNU show any signs of life? Also - can't find box score...any help? Thanks UMHB2001 for the kind words.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Toby Taff on November 20, 2010, 05:02:00 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 20, 2010, 04:55:41 PM
was keeping track of score via blackberry while hitting an Irish Pub in Asheville NC. 21-0 wih 9 min left in first...? ouch. 59-7.  Anybody who was there....was it a repeat of 2007? Did CNU show any signs of life? Also - can't find box score...any help? Thanks UMHB2001 for the kind words.
You might still be able to log in to the live stats on the cruathletics.com site.  I got home and turned on the video just after CNU recovered a fumble deep in Cru territory.  CNU was held to a fg try and it was blocked and returned for a TD.  After that it was down hill.  In the 2nd half the passing game got going, but it was already 49-7.  CNU got in close several times but the Cru kept them out of the end zone.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 20, 2010, 05:26:49 PM
Thanks Toby. Got the box score. Congrats to TJ on a big game (13 catches 175 yds and a TD). Also congrats to him and Gaines....1,000 yds for each. first time in CNU history they have 1,000 receiver and rusher in same season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 20, 2010, 10:09:46 PM
Congrats to CNU!You never quit. It's tough for any team to come back from a 28 point deficit in the first quarter, especially when turnovers contributed to the first 14. No shame allowed! You represented the conference and looking at some of the  scores and playing a team that has been there numerous times and has built a reputation, Y ou  hould be proud  that you represented the conference after a rocky start when no one expected you to represent the Conference. Job well done and hats off to you!! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 21, 2010, 12:00:21 AM
Congrats on a fine season for CNU....   The whole conference needs to improve for the 2011 season....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 21, 2010, 07:35:37 AM
Quote from: ProudFightingScot on November 21, 2010, 12:00:21 AM
Congrats on a fine season for CNU....   The whole conference needs to improve for the 2011 season....

And PFS, congrats to your team's coaching staff for getting the opportunity to coach at the D3 Senior Classic in December! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 21, 2010, 08:58:38 AM
PFS- Very nice gesture by Maryville after the Ferrum game- I had not heard about that. Your guys defense just dominated Ferrum on the ground.
I am hoping for bigger things for next year, and a lot will obviously depend on who will coach of the Panthers. I look for Ferrum improve next year, and to be more competitive. 3rd place is better than most folks thought they would finish, including myself, but I really think that in the next three years, Ferrum will be one of the top tier teams, not one of the best of the rest teams.
Hope you have a great holiday!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 21, 2010, 09:00:27 AM
Ryan- When is the D3 Senior Classic?...At Salem correct?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on November 21, 2010, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 21, 2010, 09:00:27 AM
Ryan- When is the D3 Senior Classic?...At Salem correct?

The evening of Friday, Dec. 3. Yes, in Salem. I think the organizers' hope to try out a Friday night game as a precursor to some year actually holding it the evening before the Stagg Bowl.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 23, 2010, 11:39:23 AM
Stay alert stay alive this holiday
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on November 25, 2010, 03:50:16 PM
Happy Turkey Day Boys!!!  Abnrgr...I hope where ever you are at I hope you ate as good as I did today!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on November 30, 2010, 12:37:28 AM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on November 21, 2010, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 21, 2010, 09:00:27 AM
The evening of Friday, Dec. 3. Yes, in Salem. I think the organizers' hope to try out a Friday night game as a precursor to some year actually holding it the evening before the Stagg Bowl.

Good luck to the 14 USA-South players playing in the D3 Senior Classic in Salem on Friday.  MC's Tony Ierulli and staff will be coaching the South team.

Here is the link to the web-site:   www.d3seniorclassic.com

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCSID on December 02, 2010, 01:26:27 PM
D3 fans can watch the D3 Senior Classic Live or Archived at: http://www.knoxivi.com/d3classic (http://www.knoxivi.com/d3classic)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on December 04, 2010, 07:56:46 AM
TO QUIET!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: newscot09 on December 04, 2010, 08:22:23 AM
When will the 2011 USAS Football Schedules come out?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 07, 2010, 04:11:28 PM
Newscot09

"Procul este profani"

Just screwing with you. The board will be like a funeral home for about 6 months
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on December 09, 2010, 05:59:49 PM
Associate Head Coach David Harper was today named the 6th Head Coach in Ferrum College's 56 year football history! Harper replaces Dave Davis who retired at the end of the season.

http://www.ferrum.edu/Articles/dave_harper_named_ferrum_football_coach.aspx
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on December 09, 2010, 08:46:44 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on December 04, 2010, 07:56:46 AM
TO QUIET!!!!!
too
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 10, 2010, 10:03:51 AM
ALLEN C
Well they stayed at home did they not. He knows the coaching offices.  :)

I cannot imagine Ferrum being anymore defense oriented than they have been over the years. I like the comment "understand what wearing a black helmet". 

Stability is always good with alums
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on December 10, 2010, 09:22:23 PM
Congrats to Coach Harper and a very good decision by Ferrum.  Many D-3 schools are very unique in many areas and sometimes it is best to "keep it in the family" because they have a good understanding what works and doesn't work at that institution.  Ferrum has been a solid program for many years and part of that reason is Coach Harper and the remaining assistant coaches.  Good luck......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on December 10, 2010, 11:07:27 PM
Coach Harper is an excellent choice,...and I believe the best choice. There are things that he will try to make better, but interestingly enough, there is still a coach vacancy on the staff to fill. Here is an article with the Roanoke Times and World News.

http://www.roanoke.com/sports/college/wb/270317

Ferrum football is on the upswing...it may not be this coming season, or not even the next, but look for the mediocrity to end, and expect them to be a viable contender once again. I really think that if you can't get Hank Norton walking the sidelines again, Harper is the next best scenario.

Go Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on December 13, 2010, 09:14:24 AM
One of the best things about D3 Football is that everyone has a shot at the National Championship. Or do they? Maybe I should rephrase that to be "Everyone has a shot at the National Championship Semi/quarter finals". Six years running we have the same 2 teams in the final game. Anyone else ready to see an upstart program go all the way? (or a different established program for that matter)

I bet the purple team wins this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 16, 2010, 12:55:41 PM
Yep....Purple by 4

Can you imagine having 11 national campionships. Or even one. LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on December 17, 2010, 03:30:51 PM
http://www.greensborocollegesports.com/news/2010/12/17/FB_1217103611.aspx?path=football


Some positive news from GC football, well a former coach.  Never met him, but good luck to him and his team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on December 19, 2010, 02:35:28 PM
Congratulations to Ferrum punter T.J. Grzesikowski for being named to the D3football.com All American team! Very Deserving!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MountUnion12 on December 19, 2010, 09:42:47 PM
Can somebody tell me the info on why mcmurry moved up to d2 ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on December 19, 2010, 10:42:22 PM
Quote from: MountUnion12 on December 19, 2010, 09:42:47 PM
Can somebody tell me the info on why mcmurry moved up to d2 ???

McMurry is in the American Southwest Conference, not the USA South. You'll get a better answer to your question on the ASC thread.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on December 24, 2010, 08:03:58 PM
Merry Christmas
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 29, 2010, 08:18:03 AM
Ah Mosh....I was wondering if you had pulled a Claude Rains with 6 marriages and disappearing into the New Hampshire wilderness....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 04, 2011, 12:23:45 AM
I had to ref wiki on that one.  Nicely played.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 17, 2011, 06:17:26 PM
CNU85

  CNU decided not to continue playing Wesley. From what I understand they have backed out of the agreement and won't play this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on February 21, 2011, 11:46:28 PM
I could be wrong, but I thought the Wesley agreement was for 2 years?  I'm sure 85 would have more knowledge on that but I'm interested in seeing who they will add in place of Wesley.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 22, 2011, 10:59:30 AM
"Come on man" they need a money game like APPY or Catawba not a patsy.  :)
Title: Top USA South returners
Post by: IceTrimble on February 22, 2011, 04:45:37 PM
Who are some of the faces to look for in the USA South conference next year and what team and position do they play?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 22, 2011, 05:03:10 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on February 22, 2011, 10:59:30 AM
"Come on man" they need a money game like APPY or Catawba not a patsy.  :)


  ;D +1 abnrgr
Title: Top USA South returners
Post by: IceTrimble on February 22, 2011, 07:53:48 PM
Hey who do you think will have a big impact in the USA South conference next season?
I feel it maybe Derrick West since he was among top recievers in touchdowns, or possibly Noel from CNU....who do you guys think?
Title: Re: Top USA South returners
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 22, 2011, 09:04:35 PM
Dude, quit posting new threads everywhere - this board isn't like that.  You want to ask about USA South returners, post it in the USA South forum.
Title: Re: Top USA South returners
Post by: IceTrimble on February 23, 2011, 12:57:36 AM
my bad i didnt wanna go through the 634 pages of it rather just hit a general topic and see the replies.....wow what a great forum
Title: Re: Top USA South returners
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 23, 2011, 08:09:27 AM
The pages are arranged in chronological order.  You can look at the date and see the commentary.  Any thing about the 2011 off-season is in the last few pages.

This version of the message boards has nearly 6 years of posts, but the football off-season gets slow so posting something on the USASouth board will attract the interest of those who want to talk about USA South stuff.

There are 12,000 registered users, so organization is critical.  Welcome to the boards, but we encourage all new posters to learn how to use them, for the sake of all of us.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Top USA South returners
Post by: Ron Boerger on February 23, 2011, 09:26:19 AM
Quote from: IceTrimble on February 23, 2011, 12:57:36 AM
my bad i didnt wanna go through the 634 pages of it rather just hit a general topic and see the replies.....wow what a great forum

In addition to what Ralph said, you'll notice when you visit the board that topics with fresh conversation have a "NEW" button.  THe first time you press it, it will take you to the first post, but after that it will take you to the 'end' of the board where new discussion is going on.  No "NEW" button?  Nothing's been added since your last visit.

This makes it very easy to hit the topics of interest and ignore the rest.
Title: Re: Top USA South returners
Post by: Allen C on February 23, 2011, 01:03:09 PM
Quote from: IceTrimble on February 22, 2011, 04:45:37 PM
Who are some of the faces to look for in the USA South conference next year and what team and position do they play?

I as a Ferrum fan, would point to Marcus Mayo- Ferrum QB. Very athletic, and set the passing yards record at Ferrum this past year. He was the USASAC Offensive POY in 2010. The Ferrum offense could really be something to marvel at. They will be really strong...if the Oline is solid.

I would again look for NCW to be strong offensively. Also it does not appear that SU was hurt too bad from graduation.

CNU will be right in the mix as they look to defend their title. They did seem to take some losses to graduation on the lines of scrimmage.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 24, 2011, 04:35:17 PM
I guess they got tired of Wesley whopping that !@#
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 25, 2011, 11:28:11 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on February 21, 2011, 11:46:28 PM
I could be wrong, but I thought the Wesley agreement was for 2 years?  I'm sure 85 would have more knowledge on that but I'm interested in seeing who they will add in place of Wesley.

CNUALUM9
From what I understand Wesley and CNU had an agreement to play again this year and CNU opted out. This would have been the 4th year including the Hurricane wash out. I wonder how often teams opt out of agreements. I understand Widener cancelled an agreement to play Hobart but that may hav been mandated by the MAC/NJAC cross over agreenment
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNUALUM9 on February 26, 2011, 08:22:03 PM
I forgot about the hurricane game, so it probably was a 4-year agreement.  That is interesting that CNU would back out.  I wonder if it has anything to do with this report in the Daily Press:

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-spt-kelchner-finalist-at-lock-haven-20110225,0,6660619.story
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 26, 2011, 08:48:29 PM
 
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on February 25, 2011, 11:28:11 PM
Quote from: CNUALUM9 on February 21, 2011, 11:46:28 PM
I could be wrong, but I thought the Wesley agreement was for 2 years?  I'm sure 85 would have more knowledge on that but I'm interested in seeing who they will add in place of Wesley.

CNUALUM9
From what I understand Wesley and CNU had an agreement to play again this year and CNU opted out. This would have been the 4th year including the Hurricane wash out. I wonder how often teams opt out of agreements. I understand Widener cancelled an agreement to play Hobart but that may hav been mandated by the MAC/NJAC cross over agreenment


I don't know why he would back out even if he was thinking of leaving.. If he is leaving in good standing and with the whispers of CNU maybe joining the CAC you would think that they would want a relationship in good standing with Wesley
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 28, 2011, 07:19:19 AM
PA
You might be on to something. Cannot blame a guy for moving up to coach at D2 where is he has what.....40+ paid players. It's not Free Shoes U (FSU) but it's a move up. Hope he gets it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on February 28, 2011, 07:21:16 PM
abnrgr

I forget how many scholarships are gievn here in Pa at the D2 schools But 40 seems to be oin the ball park. IF he does take over at Lock Haven he will have some rebuilding to do. They haven't had to many winning seasons of late. Mansfield went through a coach search a few years ago and then dropped football!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 01, 2011, 12:17:48 AM
I think the PSAC got up to 36 a few years ago, but I do not follow closely. I am not sure the PSAC schools are fully funded in football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: @d3jason on March 01, 2011, 02:15:13 PM
The PSAC schools tend to divide the scholarship money as best they can among players after their aid is determined. I believe that 36 "rides" is the max but the number each school varies. I believe Cheney only has about 12, while the powers in the conference may approach 36. I would guess that Lock Haven does not have too many more than that (12). CNU would probably beat Lock Haven right now. It is definitely a rebuilding project.


Coach K's father was the President of a near by PSAC school (Mansfield), when I went there. It seems like it would be a move to closer to home.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 01, 2011, 11:20:05 PM
Seriously?
 
Leave CNU one of the cushest coaching jobs in d3?  One reason only; to be closer to family.  Thats it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on March 02, 2011, 07:21:13 AM
Need to leave. Need new excitement. Can't get pass the first round of the playoffs. Get some schlorship players. If CNU would have went d2, maybe he would stay. All that campus and your d3.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 02, 2011, 10:02:32 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on March 02, 2011, 07:21:13 AM
Need to leave. Need new excitement. Can't get pass the first round of the playoffs. Get some schlorship players. If CNU would have went d2, maybe he would stay. All that campus and your d3.
you really don't understand the d3 philosophy...it's not about getting paid to play...it's about playing for the love of the game and being a student first, athlete second - there are a lot of college presidents, administrators and coaches who embrace this philosophy, including the folks at cnu
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on March 02, 2011, 10:34:41 PM
narch

I agree 100% . All the extra's are nice for the players but in the end you need the sheep skin.

+ 1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Will2Win on March 03, 2011, 11:13:48 AM
Quote from: narch on March 02, 2011, 10:02:32 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on March 02, 2011, 07:21:13 AM
Need to leave. Need new excitement. Can't get pass the first round of the playoffs. Get some schlorship players. If CNU would have went d2, maybe he would stay. All that campus and your d3.
you really don't understand the d3 philosophy...it's not about getting paid to play...it's about playing for the love of the game and being a student first, athlete second - there are a lot of college presidents, administrators and coaches who embrace this philosophy, including the folks at cnu

Although most of the colleges and administrators feel that way I know not all student athletes at D3 care about school first. Alot of them only go to that certain D3 school because they didnt get an offer from a higher level school and they simply wanted to continue to play and in order to do so they had to go to school in the mean time...sad, but it happens all to often. Especially at D3
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 16, 2011, 01:15:17 PM
Not division 3 football but if anyone wants to donate to a good cause..

  http://pages.teamintraining.org/nca/philtri11/imosher

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on April 13, 2011, 04:39:14 PM
Found out today that Southern Virginia is applying for membership into Division III. Don't know much more than that yet, but the inference can easily be made that they'll be looking to join the USA South to help with the automatic qualifier.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on April 13, 2011, 04:51:11 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on April 13, 2011, 04:39:14 PM
Found out today that Southern Virginia is applying for membership into Division III. Don't know much more than that yet, but the inference can easily be made that they'll be looking to join the USA South to help with the automatic qualifier.

Would a provisional D3 school count towards the minimum required for an AQ?  Piedmont (Ga.) might be able to add men's fb before SoVa would qualify, if not.

What about either Maryville or LaGrange?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Gray Fox on April 13, 2011, 04:55:06 PM
There is nothing on the site about this.  They need a better SID.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on April 13, 2011, 05:16:35 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 13, 2011, 04:51:11 PM
Would a provisional D3 school count towards the minimum required for an AQ?  Piedmont (Ga.) might be able to add men's fb before SoVa would qualify, if not.

What about either Maryville or LaGrange?

I don't know the answer to the provisional-school part of your question. As for the second part, Maryville is already a provisional football member for the USA South, so there's not much change that could happen if the school fully became part of the USAC (this is a football board, so that's what I'm focusing on). LaGrange has been talked about here from time to time, but I haven't heard anything concrete.

Quote from: Gray Fox on April 13, 2011, 04:55:06 PM
There is nothing on the site about this.  They need a better SID.

I honestly don't know how public it's intended to be at this point. I only found out through a source.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on April 13, 2011, 11:23:24 PM
UPDATE:
The local newspaper is actually going to have a story on SVU in Thursday's editions. I'm sure it'll be on The Roanoke Times' site and maybe even linked under "What We're Reading" on the D3football.com homepage.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 21, 2011, 11:20:27 PM
CNU out Mary Baldwin in..anybody else catch that typo or did I miss something?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on April 22, 2011, 01:05:36 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 21, 2011, 11:20:27 PM
CNU out Mary Baldwin in..anybody else catch that typo or did I miss something?

How about a link so we can check it out?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on April 22, 2011, 03:14:10 PM
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2011/04/lagrange-follows-piedmont-to-usa-south
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 22, 2011, 05:41:27 PM
Should have been Guilford that joined the South. Alas...the temptation to stay in the cellar in the ODAC is too tempting...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on April 22, 2011, 06:21:40 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on April 22, 2011, 03:14:10 PM
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2011/04/lagrange-follows-piedmont-to-usa-south

Thanks ... I actually read that article when it hit the front page but I didn't realize it was the one you were referring to.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 22, 2011, 09:37:32 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on April 22, 2011, 05:41:27 PM
Should have been Guilford that joined the South. Alas...the temptation to stay in the cellar in the ODAC is too tempting...
Guilford doesn't want to be in the USA South and football's only one sport.  Besides, we were 0-3 against the USASAC last season also.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 24, 2011, 10:49:39 PM
svu to the usasac does not excite me...any school which has had compliance problems with the naia...well, i didn't know you COULD get in trouble with the naia...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 25, 2011, 08:57:24 AM
Quote from: narch on April 24, 2011, 10:49:39 PM
svu to the usasac does not excite me...any school which has had compliance problems with the naia...well, i didn't know you COULD get in trouble with the naia...
With SVU, it seems to be all about geography and who's available for football.  One of the reasons the NAIA still exists is because there are hundreds of schools that still don't fit the NCAA model.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 25, 2011, 10:36:05 PM
if m'ville sticks around, even as an associate member, the usasac doesn't need svu, though - i don't see any upside to adding svu
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 27, 2011, 09:30:35 AM
Quote from: narch on April 25, 2011, 10:36:05 PM
if m'ville sticks around, even as an associate member, the usasac doesn't need svu, though - i don't see any upside to adding svu
I think the USASAC (and the ODAC, for that matter) need eight football schools.  It just makes scheduling so much easier, especially late in the season.  With Shenandoah, the ODAC will have eight, but Catholic is, in my opinion, "iffy" long-term.  For the USASAC, Lagrange will get the league back to eight with SU's loss, but I just don't see CNU in the league much longer.  Maryville needs to make a decision - they're in no-man's land in east Tennessee as far as the DIII landscape is concerned.  SVU?  Not sure where they belong, but I'm 99.99% sure the ODAC is not an option for the Knights.  The only way they would benefit the USASAC is if the USA South is out of options on the 7th football team for AQ.  It should be interesting the next few months to see how this shakes out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 30, 2011, 11:38:45 AM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2011, 09:30:35 AMI think the USASAC (and the ODAC, for that matter) need eight football schools.  It just makes scheduling so much easier, especially late in the season.
'nova - i don't think that the folks that i've talked to in the usasac share this opinion...i don't think the usasac is trying to get any bigger, they just want to make sure that they keep aq status

if catholic bolts the odac, i would gladly insert mu (on an all-sports basis) :) - honestly, i think that mu is more closely aligned now with the odac than the usasac from an academic profile standpoint, especially when/if shenandoah and cnu depart and if maryville doesn't become a full member (which seems somewhat unlikely, given that no announcement has been made yet and the deadline is sunday)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 01, 2011, 11:16:58 AM
Quote from: narch on April 30, 2011, 11:38:45 AM
Quote from: hasanova on April 27, 2011, 09:30:35 AMI think the USASAC (and the ODAC, for that matter) need eight football schools.  It just makes scheduling so much easier, especially late in the season.
'nova - i don't think that the folks that i've talked to in the usasac share this opinion...i don't think the usasac is trying to get any bigger, they just want to make sure that they keep aq status

if catholic bolts the odac, i would gladly insert mu (on an all-sports basis) :) - honestly, i think that mu is more closely aligned now with the odac than the usasac from an academic profile standpoint, especially when/if shenandoah and cnu depart and if maryville doesn't become a full member (which seems somewhat unlikely, given that no announcement has been made yet and the deadline is sunday)
I agree that the first goal for both conferences is to keep the AQ, but eight (or any even number) schools does make it so much simpler to schedule, especially late in the season.  The last day of the regular season, for example, there should be four conference games instead of three with one team already finished or looking for a late-season non-conference game.  I agree also that MU's probably a better fit for the ODAC than the USASAC, but with Shenandoah making 12 for many sports, I'm not sure when another opportunity will arise.  Things have been changing fast in DI, maybe it will in DIII as well.  Maryville's decisison will be closely watched.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 01, 2011, 12:32:35 PM
Respectfully, I have ask "where would Catholic go?"  All of the Landmark Conference schools that play football have affiliated with schools in other conferences that are sufficiently "like-minded".  Those Landmark schools are helping to keep the AQ in those other conferences.

Merchant Marine  is in the Liberty League. Juniata, Moravian and Susquehanna are in the Centennial.  Catholic in the ODAC.

The travel savings are apparent.

Those are good points about having an even-numbered membership participating in the conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 01, 2011, 02:05:33 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 01, 2011, 12:32:35 PM
Respectfully, I have ask "where would Catholic go?"  All of the Landmark Conference schools that play football have affiliated with schools in other conferences that are sufficiently "like-minded".  Those Landmark schools are helping to keep the AQ in those other conferences.

Merchant Marine  is in the Liberty League. Juniata, Moravian and Susquehanna are in the Centennial.  Catholic in the ODAC.

The travel savings are apparent.

Those are good points about having an even-numbered membership participating in the conference.
Regarding Catholic, your points are valid.  Their longest conference road trips are to E&H and Guilford - and they only have to make those once every two years.  With Shenandoah joining, there's another conference game right in their own backyard, so to speak.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jhughes98 on May 07, 2011, 02:13:50 AM
As a CUA Alum, Catholic's relative distance to the other schools is one of the reasons for staying in the league.  The issue is that most CUA alums and present students don't come from Central or Southern Va.  The majority of the student body comes from the northeast.  It is hard for alums and parents to go to any away games.   This prompted the school to leave its old conference in other sports for the Landmark.  It is a much different school then the other ODAC colleges.  It is the only one in a major metropolitan area.  It draws nationally every year for its general student body.  Besides W&L it has the toughest admission standards in the league and the average student pays around 35G out of pocket to go there a year.  I bet if they had an offer from an established league with Northeast ties they would bolt in a second.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 10, 2011, 07:08:24 PM
Nice!  Night games!!!
http://cnusports.com/news/2011/5/10/FB_0510110210.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2011/5/10/FB_0510110210.aspx)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on May 22, 2011, 04:10:43 PM
Maryville College just joined the USA-South in all sports on Friday.  Here's the article...

www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/Maryville_College_joins_USA_South_Athletic_Conference_id_011631


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kate on May 22, 2011, 05:54:24 PM
Completely out of left field here, but Ralph, thanks for quoting "like minded".  I made a personal vow to never use those words again on D3, but couldn't help it in this instance. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 23, 2011, 03:18:58 PM
Quote from: kate on May 22, 2011, 05:54:24 PM
Completely out of left field here, but Ralph, thanks for quoting "like minded".  I made a personal vow to never use those words again on D3, but couldn't help it in this instance.  
Thanks, Kate.  It is the 800-lb gorilla in the room.

IMHO, the practical nature of most football fans, and the opinion that is held by the PC (and not Pat Coleman) crowd of football as a sport, e.g., Swarthmore, allow such arrangements.

The Landmark teams actually fulfill a reasonable function in having conference games in close proximity.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 23, 2011, 06:02:27 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 23, 2011, 03:18:58 PM
Quote from: kate on May 22, 2011, 05:54:24 PM
Completely out of left field here, but Ralph, thanks for quoting "like minded".  I made a personal vow to never use those words again on D3, but couldn't help it in this instance. 
Thanks, Kate.  It is the 800-lb gorilla in the room.

IMHO, the practical nature of most football fans, and the opinion that is held by the PC (and not Pat Coleman) crowd of football as a sport, e.g., Swarthmore, allow such arrangements.

The Landmark teams actually fulfill a reasonable function in having conference games in close proximity.

  It looks like this may be just the begining of some more shuffling of schools and conferences. I have heard that maybe there are a few more schools thinking about adding football along the East/South regional boarders
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 23, 2011, 06:33:14 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 23, 2011, 06:02:27 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 23, 2011, 03:18:58 PM
Quote from: kate on May 22, 2011, 05:54:24 PM
Completely out of left field here, but Ralph, thanks for quoting "like minded".  I made a personal vow to never use those words again on D3, but couldn't help it in this instance. 
Thanks, Kate.  It is the 800-lb gorilla in the room.

IMHO, the practical nature of most football fans, and the opinion that is held by the PC (and not Pat Coleman) crowd of football as a sport, e.g., Swarthmore, allow such arrangements.

The Landmark teams actually fulfill a reasonable function in having conference games in close proximity.

  It looks like this may be just the begining of some more shuffling of schools and conferences. I have heard that maybe there are a few more schools thinking about adding football along the East/South regional boarders
The Capital AC is my first thought, then the CSAC and finally schools in the MAC
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on May 23, 2011, 06:54:59 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 23, 2011, 06:33:14 PM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 23, 2011, 06:02:27 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 23, 2011, 03:18:58 PM
Quote from: kate on May 22, 2011, 05:54:24 PM
Completely out of left field here, but Ralph, thanks for quoting "like minded".  I made a personal vow to never use those words again on D3, but couldn't help it in this instance. 
Thanks, Kate.  It is the 800-lb gorilla in the room.

IMHO, the practical nature of most football fans, and the opinion that is held by the PC (and not Pat Coleman) crowd of football as a sport, e.g., Swarthmore, allow such arrangements.

The Landmark teams actually fulfill a reasonable function in having conference games in close proximity.

  It looks like this may be just the begining of some more shuffling of schools and conferences. I have heard that maybe there are a few more schools thinking about adding football along the East/South regional boarders
The Capital AC is my first thought, then the CSAC and finally schools in the MAC

Ralph
I think so too, but I have heard things before that never materialized for one reason or another!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on May 30, 2011, 11:22:10 AM
Pat,

It seems to me you referenced an article on the implications of SU leaving the USA South. ( If I remember right, it was on d3football.com) I cant find the article now....can you re post the link? I think it went through the potential loss of the aq scenario.....Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on May 31, 2011, 09:20:56 AM
I suspect this is the one:
http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2010/09/29/conference-shuffle-drifts-south/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on June 01, 2011, 12:38:29 AM
Good insightful article on the future of the USA-South Conference, Pat....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 03, 2011, 01:40:14 PM
Quote from: James Burk on June 03, 2011, 10:11:32 AM
I am writing to let you know about our QB - #12 Christian Boese. Christian is class of 2012, stands a little over 6 feet and weighs 180 pounds. Christian has good arm strength, accuracy and decision making skills. He has worked extremely hard this off season and had a very productive spring ball. His work ethic is outstanding as well as his leadership abilities. His Junior year he threw for 1795 yards and 15 TD's. He has taken the ACT and got a 25 (he is taking again to improve on this score)on it and carries a GPA of 3.4. There is a link below that has some of his hi-lites from 2010.
Having played at the Division II & III level as well as having coached at the Div I and FCS level I feel confident in recommending Christian as a prospective quarterback for your program.

http://youtu.be/rzWvo7KDvOY

Thanks
he's got what appear to be pretty talented wr's he's throwing to...any of them looking to head to north carolina in the near future :)

oh, and this...www.berecruited.com
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on June 23, 2011, 07:58:06 AM
I wish I would have stuck around for USASouth baseball season.  I am a huge baseball fan, but growing up an Orioles fan....well what more do I need to say?

Turns out, I missed a very good season for USASouth baseball

As for football, I really don't know what to expect out of the Pride this year.  My expectations were very high last season considering how well they competed the year before.  I can't throw any numbers or formulas :) to indicate what I expect, because I really have no idea what to expect at all.

Just beat the Quacker's I mean the Quaker's :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 23, 2011, 09:21:17 AM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on June 23, 2011, 07:58:06 AM
I wish I would have stuck around for USASouth baseball season.  I am a huge baseball fan, but growing up an Orioles fan....well what more do I need to say?

Turns out, I missed a very good season for USASouth baseball

As for football, I really don't know what to expect out of the Pride this year.  My expectations were very high last season considering how well they competed the year before.  I can't throw any numbers or formulas :) to indicate what I expect, because I really have no idea what to expect at all.

Just beat the Quacker's I mean the Quaker's :)
Just beat the "Quaker's what?"  Gray flannel-covered butt?  :)  Possession versus plural, it's a tough one.  Guilford will undoubtedly bring more than one player, so I'd go with "Just beat the Quakers."  Go Guilford!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on June 23, 2011, 04:03:28 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 23, 2011, 09:21:17 AM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on June 23, 2011, 07:58:06 AM
I wish I would have stuck around for USASouth baseball season.  I am a huge baseball fan, but growing up an Orioles fan....well what more do I need to say?

Turns out, I missed a very good season for USASouth baseball

As for football, I really don't know what to expect out of the Pride this year.  My expectations were very high last season considering how well they competed the year before.  I can't throw any numbers or formulas :) to indicate what I expect, because I really have no idea what to expect at all.

Just beat the Quacker's I mean the Quaker's :)
Just beat the "Quaker's what?"  Gray flannel-covered butt?  :)  Possession versus plural, it's a tough one.  Guilford will undoubtedly bring more than one player, so I'd go with "Just beat the Quakers."  Go Guilford!

Maybe I am hoping for only one Quacker, I mean Quaker :)

I probably should have gone with Guliford Quakers' football team. Only kidding :) Quakers should have been sufficient.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 23, 2011, 04:44:12 PM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on June 23, 2011, 04:03:28 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 23, 2011, 09:21:17 AM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on June 23, 2011, 07:58:06 AM
I wish I would have stuck around for USASouth baseball season.  I am a huge baseball fan, but growing up an Orioles fan....well what more do I need to say?

Turns out, I missed a very good season for USASouth baseball

As for football, I really don't know what to expect out of the Pride this year.  My expectations were very high last season considering how well they competed the year before.  I can't throw any numbers or formulas :) to indicate what I expect, because I really have no idea what to expect at all.

Just beat the Quacker's I mean the Quaker's :)
Just beat the "Quaker's what?"  Gray flannel-covered butt?  :)  Possession versus plural, it's a tough one.  Guilford will undoubtedly bring more than one player, so I'd go with "Just beat the Quakers."  Go Guilford!

Maybe I am hoping for only one Quacker, I mean Quaker :)

I probably should have gone with Guliford Quakers' football team. Only kidding :) Quakers should have been sufficient.
Welcome back, GuyFormerlyPSBBG, but you do make it too easy.  :)  I drove by Guilford yesterday and the "I" was still leading the "L."  "Guliford", however, does have a nice ring to it and may lead to puns - "The Guliford Quackers spell trouble" or "Guilford Quakers topple Greensboro with Pride."

Dogberry reincarnated.

Go Quakers!  All kidding aside, I hope the Pride have a good season - starting with their second game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on June 24, 2011, 11:45:48 AM
Quote from: hasanova on June 23, 2011, 04:44:12 PM

Welcome back, GuyFormerlyPSBBG, but you do make it too easy.  :)  I drove by Guilford yesterday and the "I" was still leading the "L."  "Guliford", however, does have a nice ring to it and may lead to puns - "The Guliford Quackers spell trouble" or "Guilford Quakers topple Greensboro with Pride."

Before I had a poor excuse for misspelling words.  I used to use IE, now I don't.  I use primarily Google Chrome because of the spell checking capabilities.  It missed "Guliford" before, not sure why it did.

If you could believe it, I am in a business where grammar and spelling are quite important :)

I do some basic HTML work. (Go to magazine websites such as Motor Trend or Hot Rod etc those pesky landing pages for subscriptions are part of my work) :)   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 04, 2011, 07:51:13 AM
Happy 4th of July....Uhmmm only a little more than a month before fall camps start. Can't wait! Any predictions on who will win the USA South?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 04, 2011, 10:10:02 AM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on June 24, 2011, 11:45:48 AM
Quote from: hasanova on June 23, 2011, 04:44:12 PM

Welcome back, GuyFormerlyPSBBG, but you do make it too easy.  :)  I drove by Guilford yesterday and the "I" was still leading the "L."  "Guliford", however, does have a nice ring to it and may lead to puns - "The Guliford Quackers spell trouble" or "Guilford Quakers topple Greensboro with Pride."

Before I had a poor excuse for misspelling words.  I used to use IE, now I don't.  I use primarily Google Chrome because of the spell checking capabilities.  It missed "Guliford" before, not sure why it did.

If you could believe it, I am in a business where grammar and spelling are quite important :)

I do some basic HTML work. (Go to magazine websites such as Motor Trend or Hot Rod etc those pesky landing pages for subscriptions are part of my work) :)  
Welcome back!  Yeah, I adopted Firefox back in the mid 2000's.  Love the spellcheck to handle the issues with finger "dyslexia" or more accurately, a form of dyspraxia.  Sometimes, my fingers stumble all over the keyboard.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on July 06, 2011, 11:35:02 AM
Tunde Ogun has a private workout with the Marty Schottenheimer lead Va Destroyers from the UFL. Could No. 23 come back to the 757. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 06, 2011, 01:19:16 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on July 06, 2011, 11:35:02 AM
Tunde Ogun has a private workout with the Marty Schottenheimer lead Va Destroyers from the UFL. Could No. 23 come back to the 757. Stay tuned.
good luck, tunde!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 06, 2011, 01:19:58 PM
got a sneak peek at the monarchs new uni's today...they should at least look good on game day :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 06, 2011, 03:30:13 PM
Ferrum's Marcus Mayo has been selected as the first team punt returner in the Consensus Draft Services Pre season All American team for DIII. Way to go Marcus!

http://cdsdraft.com/aa.php?team=Division%20III
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 06, 2011, 09:59:31 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on July 06, 2011, 11:35:02 AM
Tunde Ogun has a private workout with the Marty Schottenheimer lead Va Destroyers from the UFL. Could No. 23 come back to the 757. Stay tuned.

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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on July 06, 2011, 11:13:06 PM
I guess you get alot of that at home!!!! LMAO
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 11, 2011, 02:26:32 PM
After reading about the German and American football game on the home page I laughed. In the 70,80, and even early 90s the Army had football teams at the Division and sometimes Brigade level. They would play other military football teams, D1 JV's and JUCO's. For example FT Bragg had its own team called the Dragons. But I remember once in Germany the Americans were playing Stuttgart football. In this game we had this former Georgia Southern AA linebacker playing for the Americans. He got on the kickoff team as a wedge buster. The Germans at the time did not understand about football as well as they do now. They would get a ball and run standing straight up. This Lieutenant from Georgia Southern launched about 10 yards from the returner. The sound of the 2 hits immediately silenced the crowd. The 2nd sound was the back of his head hitting the ground first. Kind of a quick pop pop. Anyway the German was carted off and was found to have a permanent speech problem and the crowd did not understand how he "got thru while flying" and the Americans jumping up and down in celebration. It was slaughter for the rest of the game. Needless to say the Germans did not get all "nuances" of Americans football. Sounds like they are picking up.  :)

Ah....memories. LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 11, 2011, 03:04:16 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on July 11, 2011, 02:26:32 PM
After reading about the German and American football game on the home page I laughed. In the 70,80, and even early 90s the Army had football teams at the Division and sometimes Brigade level. They would play other military football teams, D1 JV's and JUCO's. For example FT Bragg had its own team called the Dragons. But I remember once in Germany the Americans were playing Stuttgart football. In this game we had this former Georgia Southern AA linebacker playing for the Americans. He got on the kickoff team as a wedge buster. The Germans at the time did not understand about football as well as they do now. They would get a ball and run standing straight up. This Lieutenant from Georgia Southern launched about 10 yards from the returner. The sound of the 2 hits immediately silenced the crowd. The 2nd sound was the back of his head hitting the ground first. Kind of a quick pop pop. Anyway the German was carted off and was found to have a permanent speech problem and the crowd did not understand how he "got thru while flying" and the Americans jumping up and down in celebration. It was slaughter for the rest of the game. Needless to say the Germans did not get all "nuances" of Americans football. Sounds like they are picking up.  :)

Ah....memories. LOL
On the other side, sounds as though Japan's women's soccer team has caught up with the Germans at their own game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on July 11, 2011, 10:40:15 PM
Nova-

I saw something you would really appreciate. (Probably not) :)

On an actual sign in a parking lot:  "Parking for Customer's Only"  (Yes, Customer's)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 12, 2011, 10:02:12 AM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on July 11, 2011, 10:40:15 PM
Nova-

I saw something you would really appreciate. (Probably not) :)

On an actual sign in a parking lot:  "Parking for Customer's Only"  (Yes, Customer's)
Nice.  Well, it was probably at the SRI Shoe Warehouse near my house.  They have both a "Mens" and "Womens" Department, which is plurality on steroids! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 12, 2011, 02:48:03 PM
mu 3rd string qb kevin corona got a chance to throw with chad ochocinco, and it was caught on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiAMVnSBGw0) (imagine that...ochocinco taking an opportunity to hype himself)...kevin is introduced at around 2:15 - there is some language that isn't appropriate, so turn the volume down if the kids or boss are around...hasanova, i know your quaker values, and i suggest you not watch :)

here is an article about it from the fayetteville observer...http://fayobserver.com/articles/2011/07/12/1107859?sac=Sports
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 12, 2011, 04:18:16 PM
Quote from: narch on July 12, 2011, 02:48:03 PM
mu 3rd string qb kevin corona got a chance to throw with chad ochocinco, and it was caught on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiAMVnSBGw0) (imagine that...ochocinco taking an opportunity to hype himself)...kevin is introduced at around 2:15 - there is some language that isn't appropriate, so turn the volume down if the kids or boss are around...hasanova, i know your quaker values, and i suggest you not watch :)

here is an article about it from the fayetteville observer...http://fayobserver.com/articles/2011/07/12/1107859?sac=Sports
I'm sure ochocinco has an "inner light" somewhere, but sadly it keeps being overshadowed by his cerocero "inner hype."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: K-Mack on July 15, 2011, 06:11:08 PM
Do you guys know of any journalists or organizations that cover the USAC really well, in your opinions? I need to get in touch with someone ... going to try Newport News and Fayetteville (see above). Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 15, 2011, 08:50:04 PM
Ryan Tipps, who is on this board may be helpful. Melinda Waldrup with the Daily Press in Newport News.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 15, 2011, 11:14:08 PM
Ryan Tipps is on our staff. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on July 15, 2011, 11:33:28 PM
Next to Ryan Tipps, Marcus Fitzsimmons from Maryville Daily-Times has done a great job covering the USA-South Conference and writes a series of articles on each team after Media Day.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 28, 2011, 04:46:59 PM
Interesting day. I haven't been on the boards in awhile. I decided to look around on same day I had to decline an invitation to Media Day on Monday and then saw this:

http://cnusports.com/news/2011/7/28/FB_0728110012.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2011/7/28/FB_0728110012.aspx)

I'm ready for some football!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on July 28, 2011, 09:29:01 PM
CNU85,

I noticed that the Captians have a new Defensive Coordinator.  He has been working the 3-3-5 defense for a number of years at WVU, HSC and Michigan.  Do you think a change in defensive scheme is at hand at CNU this year?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 28, 2011, 10:42:53 PM
Looks like they also have hired a QB coach.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on July 28, 2011, 11:08:43 PM
It's that time of year again. So as by tradition ...

If anyone has any suggestions on questions they'd like asked at Media Day let me know — either via posts or email — and I'll consider them for the webcast portion.

Remember you forfeit right to belly ache about question quality if you don't submit. ::)

Any word leaked out yet on what USASAC teams may be considered for the Hornets 2012 football sked as non-conference games?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 29, 2011, 08:24:59 AM
I just sent you several questions via your gmail account-

Thanks!

Allen
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 29, 2011, 10:49:42 AM
Quote from: HSC85 on July 28, 2011, 09:29:01 PM
CNU85,

I noticed that the Captians have a new Defensive Coordinator.  He has been working the 3-3-5 defense for a number of years at WVU, HSC and Michigan.  Do you think a change in defensive scheme is at hand at CNU this year?



Good question. I hope we learn more on media day next week. A new coach always brings in new ideas. However, a lot will depend on how he evaluates the talent he has to deal with. I would suspect some change and continuous tweaking. Also, the opponent will dictate your defense in any given week. Stay tuned and enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 29, 2011, 10:52:32 AM
Quote from: batteredbard on July 28, 2011, 11:08:43 PM
It's that time of year again. So as by tradition ...

If anyone has any suggestions on questions they'd like asked at Media Day let me know — either via posts or email — and I'll consider them for the webcast portion.

Remember you forfeit right to belly ache about question quality if you don't submit. ::)

Any word leaked out yet on what USASAC teams may be considered for the Hornets 2012 football sked as non-conference games?

It's a shame I am swamped with work or I would be there, too. Will be looking forward to reading your report!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 01, 2011, 10:01:36 PM
watched coach e at media day...not quite as quotable as coach sy, but i'd line up to play for him, that's for sure!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 01, 2011, 11:21:42 PM
So who are the coaches picking this year. Haven't been on here in a long time. Trying to catch up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 03, 2011, 06:40:21 AM
I said I didn't know what to expect out of Greensboro this year.

All last place votes.  No pressure.

GC has been picked to finish last in recent years, but has only finished as low as tied for last place.

They may are may not finish in last place this year....I don't know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 03, 2011, 11:48:06 AM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 03, 2011, 06:40:21 AM
I said I didn't know what to expect out of Greensboro this year.

All last place votes.  No pressure.

GC has been picked to finish last in recent years, but has only finished as low as tied for last place.

They may are may not finish in last place this year....I don't know.
"Are" and "or" .... so close, yet so far away. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 03, 2011, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 03, 2011, 06:40:21 AMGC has been picked to finish last in recent years, but has only finished as low as tied for last place.
not sure how long "recent" is in your book, but in addition to a last place tie in 2010, they were all alone in last and winless in the conference in 2008...so in 2 of the last 3 years the pride has finished in last place

(in full disclosure, gc's average finish over the last 3 years is higher than that of my monarchs, who have finished next-to-last, next-to-last and tied for last over that span)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 03, 2011, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: narch on August 03, 2011, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 03, 2011, 06:40:21 AMGC has been picked to finish last in recent years, but has only finished as low as tied for last place.
not sure how long "recent" is in your book, but in addition to a last place tie in 2010, they were all alone in last and winless in the conference in 2008...so in 2 of the last 3 years the pride has finished in last place

(in full disclosure, gc's average finish over the last 3 years is higher than that of my monarchs, who have finished next-to-last, next-to-last and tied for last over that span)
This reminds me of a dual track and field meet between the USA and USSR during the cold war era.  The Americans trounced the Russians, but it was reported in the Soviet press as the Russians finished 2nd and the Americans finished next to last.  Perhaps you and GuyFormerlyPSBBG should try this strategy! :)  Guilford, for example, has a Top Seven football finish in the ODAC for 20 straight years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 03, 2011, 06:30:28 PM
Quote from: narch on August 03, 2011, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 03, 2011, 06:40:21 AMGC has been picked to finish last in recent years, but has only finished as low as tied for last place.
not sure how long "recent" is in your book, but in addition to a last place tie in 2010, they were all alone in last and winless in the conference in 2008...so in 2 of the last 3 years the pride has finished in last place

(in full disclosure, gc's average finish over the last 3 years is higher than that of my monarchs, who have finished next-to-last, next-to-last and tied for last over that span)

I know you are correct about 2008. In the 2008 poll,  I don't think GC was picked to finish last. (It might have been SU)

I was just saying the team picked for last place........doesn't finish in last place.  (At least there was tie and GC didn't have sole possession of last  ;))

Quote from: hasanova on August 03, 2011, 11:48:06 AM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 03, 2011, 06:40:21 AM


They may are may not finish in last place this year....I don't know.
"Are" and "or" .... so close, yet so far away. 

See the time of the my post? I was still in Pirate mode...(No morning coffee yet.)  "are" "arrrr"  ok bad joke, won't try it again.




Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 03, 2011, 10:52:04 PM
You guys aren't focused.  It's rival week!  Last place, third place, the only thing that matters is tearing Guilford apart.

Shouldn't be that hard
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 03, 2011, 11:30:52 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 03, 2011, 10:52:04 PM
You guys aren't focused.  It's rival week!  Last place, third place, the only thing that matters is tearing Guilford apart.

Shouldn't be that hard
Coach Rusiewicz, as if you needed anything, here's an item for the bulletin board!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 04, 2011, 12:24:12 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 03, 2011, 04:12:52 PMGuilford, for example, has a Top Seven football finish in the ODAC for 20 straight years.
nice one!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 04, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 03, 2011, 10:52:04 PM
You guys aren't focused.  It's rival week!  Last place, third place, the only thing that matters is tearing Guilford apart.

Shouldn't be that hard
you know, i wish i knew who mu's "rival" was...as a fan, the team i most want mu to beat is cnu, because they are the gold standard, but mu is 2-8 all-time against cnu, and some of the 8 have been REALLY lopsided, so it's not much of a rivalry

greensboro and ncwc are the closest conference schools from a proximity standpoint, but those series are pretty lopsided (despite gc taking the last 2 from the monarchs, mu is still 10-4 all time vs. the pride and ncwc has absolutely THUMPED mu in each of the last 5 years) and i don't think either would consider mu the primary rival

mu and guilford have played in every year that mu has had football, and the series is relatively close (guilford holds a 13-8 advantage, but is just 2-2 over the last 4, with each of those games being decided by 5 points or less)...but they aren't conference foes, so that reduces the importance, in my mind

maryville may be the best bet for mu...they are a conference foe (now) and the all-time series 7-6 in favor of the scots – the teams have split the last 6 contests, and 5 of those games have been really close...2008 debacle aside, the mu/m'ville series over the last 6 seasons have all been decided by 6 or fewer points and the 6 point contest was a 4 OT game...maybe the scots are the mu rival, but i don't think that the feeling is reciprocated

of course, if the campbell vs. mu series would start back up, that would be a true rivalry...those 2 games were the most electric atmosphere i've experienced for mu football to date
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 04, 2011, 01:08:55 PM
Geographic proximity does help (Duke/Carolina, Calvin/Hope, Cal/Stanford), but tradition takes time (Georgia/Florida, Harvard/Yale, HSC/RMC).  If you have both, it's a bonus!  I would rather play Methodist from a philosophical/academic standpoint than some of the non-conference schools we play, but you can't argue with the cost savings (and increased attendance) of proximity.  Shenandoah will eliminate one next year - of Averett, Greensboro, Methodist and Southern Virginia, it'll probably be NAIA SVU.     
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 04, 2011, 01:09:42 PM
Quote from: narch on August 04, 2011, 12:24:12 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 03, 2011, 04:12:52 PMGuilford, for example, has a Top Seven football finish in the ODAC for 20 straight years.
nice one!
I thought you'd like that.  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 04, 2011, 01:38:05 PM
Rivalries:

Interesting topic.

There is the AU vs GC rivalry: 

In the GC community a fair number of people consider AU to be a rival, but I've never thought that way. AU really makes this more of a rivalry than GC.

GC vs GC:

City Rivalry.

I've always considered Guilford to be our biggest rivalry and I think the general consensus at Greensboro is the same.  On the other hand, I believe Guilford doesn't believe the rivalry to be as important?

For the USASouth, the rivalries are sport by sport...



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 04, 2011, 02:25:04 PM
Formerly
I agree. I never saw a bigger crowd at a DIII game (that I was physically at) than at that old field in Greensboro (Grimsly high I think). Especially during the night
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 04, 2011, 04:06:14 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on August 04, 2011, 02:25:04 PM
Formerly
I agree. I never saw a bigger crowd at a DIII game (that I was physically at) than at that old field in Greensboro (Grimsly high I think). Especially during the night
Yes, the Soup Bowl (in odd years) is played at 10,000-capacity Jamieson Stadium, which is home to both the Grimsley HS Whirlies (Whirlwinds) and the Greensboro College Pride.   Its namesake, Bob Jamieson, by the way, is a Guilford alumnus and legendary coach.  In even years, it's played in Armfield Stadium on Guilford's campus.  I've been to all 15 and I'm pretty sure the attendance is usually between 3,500 and 4,500.  The games were very well-attended during the Vogelbach era, with crowds close to 4500 (or more) at each.

Of course, this all pales in comparison to The Game between Sydney and Macon.  I'm sure there are other DIII rivalries that draw well also.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 04, 2011, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 04, 2011, 04:06:14 PM
Of course, this all pales in comparison to The Game between Sydney and Macon.  I'm sure there are other DIII rivalries that draw well also.

My alma mater's rivalry game against DePauw drew more than 11,700 people last year. :)

St. John's games do quite nicely, too!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 04, 2011, 10:29:04 PM
Quote from: Ryan Tipps on August 04, 2011, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 04, 2011, 04:06:14 PM
Of course, this all pales in comparison to The Game between Sydney and Macon.  I'm sure there are other DIII rivalries that draw well also.

My alma mater's rivalry game against DePauw drew more than 11,700 people last year. :)

St. John's games do quite nicely, too!
Two great examples - thanks!  I would also imagine some of the WIAC games draw well with their state-supported larger than normal DIII student bodies.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2011, 10:33:29 PM
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2011/02/sju-leads-2010-attendance

Here's 2010 attendance numbers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 04, 2011, 10:58:33 PM
The Souper Bowl.

Now how many rivalries support a cause like the one between Greensboro and Guilford?  Good to see good come out of "bad blood"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 05, 2011, 12:59:57 AM
Here's one, the Courage Bowl:

http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/2009/courage-bowl-about-more-than-football
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 05, 2011, 02:20:55 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 04, 2011, 10:33:29 PM
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2011/02/sju-leads-2010-attendance

Here's 2010 attendance numbers.

It will be interesting what impact, if any, having 4 home games under the lights will have on attendance at CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 05, 2011, 02:42:16 PM
Pat, thanks for the two links on attendance and humanitarian rivalries - interesting. +1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 11, 2011, 09:34:33 PM
mu camp opened on wednesday...hoping the monarchs brought in some studs to add to the returners - it will be interesting to see how the dave eavenson era starts
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 11, 2011, 10:14:30 PM
narch, do you think you'll be at the Guilford game in Fayetteville on Sept 10?  If my schedule works out, I might make that trip.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 13, 2011, 01:38:48 PM
Guy former pride.

The Greensboro Guilford Game is a true rivalry.  You wouldn't understand if you never played it.  It is without a doubt the most important games for each year.  I wish it had remained the last game of the schedule for both teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 13, 2011, 06:36:27 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 13, 2011, 01:38:48 PM
Guy former pride.

The Greensboro Guilford Game is a true rivalry.  You wouldn't understand if you never played it.  It is without a doubt the most important games for each year.  I wish it had remained the last game of the schedule for both teams.
Me too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 15, 2011, 08:25:50 AM
Quote from: hasanova on August 13, 2011, 06:36:27 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 13, 2011, 01:38:48 PM
Guy former pride.

The Greensboro Guilford Game is a true rivalry.  You wouldn't understand if you never played it.  It is without a doubt the most important games for each year.  I wish it had remained the last game of the schedule for both teams.
Me too.

Mosher

I agree with you.  I believe it is a true rivalry.  I don't think the students at Guilford believe it to be as much of a rival as the students at Greensboro.

I think if the schools were the same size it would be a different story.  Greensboro's student body has a higher % of student athletes compared to Guilford's student body.

When you see these games you really see the athletes from both schools.  For Greensboro you see a bigger chunk of the student body attend.  When you throw in the students that played sports in high school, but not in college, I bet you are seeing in the upwards of 60% of the students vs maybe about 40% at Guilford.

Alumni numbers are a completely different story.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 15, 2011, 01:39:34 PM
I played for Greensboro and coached at Guilford so I know first hand how important the game is.  Is it important for the entire student body.  No.  It isn't the big 12 so you aren't going to have every one invested.  The food drive doest do a great job of getting people in that normally wouldn't attend.  While I was at Greensboro I think we won 3 of 4 and what a great feeling to see the quakers in the mall or the beach and know that we kicked that ass.  I even am friends with a few of them and know for a fact that I gave (now a friend of mine) a concussion in the Soup Bowl (not souper bowl) Soup Bowl.  The point being in the USAC there is not a bigger rivalry than this.  More may be on the line for cnu/ ferrum or cnu/ anyone but no game compares to the soup bowl.  Two schools and the same city.  Its about Pride.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jayhawkdaddy on August 20, 2011, 01:16:05 PM
Has Southern Virginia been accepted to the conference? Just was wondering if they will be the replacement for SU? Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 20, 2011, 01:38:54 PM
It's a little premature -- Southern Virginia isn't even a provisional member of Division III yet.

I drove through that campus earlier this summer. Southern Virginia seems to have a long way to go.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 22, 2011, 09:20:41 PM
got my first glimpse of the monarchs today in a scrimmage vs. louisburg - #1 offense looked pretty good, driving the ball 70+ yards for a score on the first drive and moving it well before stalling on the second drive - flannagan did not play, but there were a couple of rb's that looked really nice...both had a burst that he doesn't have (although neither are as powerful) - a couple of the top wr's didn't play either, but mu looks deep there - murphy looks like he's poised to grab the starting spot...he made a couple of nice plays outside of the pocket and made good decisions in the pocket - frosh max reber got some reps early, as well, and showed a lot of athletic ability...he's quick...needs to develop as a passer, but he can run

defense was another issue altogether...they couldn't stop the hurricanes, at all - there is a long way to go for the defenders - that being said, lc is a solid junior college program with a number of scholarship players...the hurricane ol was HUGE, and they had a wr who was at least 6'4"/190 and could flat out run - mu won't see a bigger, more athletic team this year

realistically, this is a 4 to 6 win team...and if it's the latter, i'll take it :)

i can't wait for real football to start!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 24, 2011, 12:23:15 PM
article on mu from the fayetteville observer...

http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2011/08/23/1116790?sac=Sports

as a fan, i'm all in :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 24, 2011, 03:26:54 PM
Narch
Thanks.....and good luck coach E! He is a great guy. I love the intensity
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 25, 2011, 07:49:02 PM
Interesting development!

http://www.thefranklinnewspost.com/article.cfm?ID=19945
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 26, 2011, 07:56:07 AM
Allen
Warren is big time. Should be good all around. Its good thing for Warren I graduated from Lees-McRe in 1977 or I he would have had to pull his cleats out of my facemask.............. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 26, 2011, 09:52:15 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on August 26, 2011, 07:56:07 AM
Allen
Warren is big time. Should be good all around. Its good thing for Warren I graduated from Lees-McRe in 1977 or I he would have had to pull his cleats out of my facemask.............. :)
Chris ran over a lot of people those two seasons at Ferrum!  I remember one tremendous butt-kicking for the Quakers in Greensboro during that span.  :(  Warren was obviously a D-I/NFL talent who, for a lot of reasons, ended up at Ferrum when things didn't pan out in Charlottesville.  He was almost impossible for most DIII teams to stop - at least until deep in the playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bleedpurple on August 26, 2011, 04:14:24 PM
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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 31, 2011, 08:02:45 AM
http://www.greensborocollegesports.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/8-30-2011_Week_1_Football_Preview

Preview is up for the GC vs GC game. 

I am actually interested in seeing the Quakers defense.  There has been some talk of this unique 4-2-5 system. 

Preview says Greensboro's offense will be handed over to a freshman QB. (Looks solid, based on the YouTube highlights.) I am excited to watch this game, even if it is on my laptop a couple 1000 miles away.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 31, 2011, 08:09:34 AM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on August 31, 2011, 08:02:45 AM
http://www.greensborocollegesports.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/8-30-2011_Week_1_Football_Preview

Preview is up for the GC vs GC game. 

I am actually interested in seeing the Quakers defense.  There has been some talk of this unique 4-2-5 system. 

Preview says Greensboro's offense will be handed over to a freshman QB. (Looks solid, based on the YouTube highlights.) I am excited to watch this game, even if it is on my laptop a couple 1000 miles away.
Is the overall record still 7-7 even though one of GCP's wins was later a forfeit?  How does that work?
Title: How to contribute to Soup Bowl food drive
Post by: hasanova on August 31, 2011, 09:08:30 AM
Soup Bowl food drive is now in session.  These are Guilford's "ways to give" and Greensboro has similar options:

http://www.guilford.edu/blog/2011/08/30/15th-annual-soup-bowl-will-collect-food-items-through-sept-2/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 03, 2011, 06:58:28 AM
GAMEDAY! Is anyone doing Pick um's for the USA South? Is there anyone out here on the board at all? What has happened? Seems quiet lately.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on September 03, 2011, 07:12:50 AM
Quote from: Allen C on September 03, 2011, 06:58:28 AM
GAMEDAY! Is anyone doing Pick um's for the USA South? Is there anyone out here on the board at all? What has happened? Seems quiet lately.

I won't manage the pick em's but willing to pick a few games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 03, 2011, 05:23:28 PM
Final Guilford 27, Greensboro 7

Guilford dominated this game in most aspects - looked much sharper than last season.  Pride's lone score was a 32-yard run up the middle with 1:08 to go.  Surprisingly (for me), three of Guilford's four score came via pass and run.  Offense looked sharp, but had a couple of drive-killing penalties around the 30-yard line three times in the first half.  GCP's defense was on the field a lot today and I think the time of possesion battle eventually took its toll.

Anyway, great win for the Quakers as they snapped an 11-game losing streak and gave Coach Rusiewicz his first Gatorade bath as a college head coach.  Nice. 

Hopefully, the Pride can regroup, but their offense didn't look real sharp to me.  Unfortunately for Greensboro, many of their tougher games lie ahead.  Good luck to GCP in the USASAC this season!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 03, 2011, 05:36:30 PM
Nice game for the Bishops.  Two interceptions turned the tide....Nice game guys!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on September 04, 2011, 08:10:50 PM
CNU played like it was the first game of the season to be sure.  Had a few miscues early on, especially on offense, but the defense did a spectacular job and the ground game squeaked out enough offense to start the season off in the W column.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on September 06, 2011, 08:07:24 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 03, 2011, 05:23:28 PM
Final Guilford 27, Greensboro 7

Guilford dominated this game in most aspects - looked much sharper than last season.  Pride's lone score was a 32-yard run up the middle with 1:08 to go.  Surprisingly (for me), three of Guilford's four score came via pass and run.  Offense looked sharp, but had a couple of drive-killing penalties around the 30-yard line three times in the first half.  GCP's defense was on the field a lot today and I think the time of possesion battle eventually took its toll.

Anyway, great win for the Quakers as they snapped an 11-game losing streak and gave Coach Rusiewicz his first Gatorade bath as a college head coach.  Nice. 

Hopefully, the Pride can regroup, but their offense didn't look real sharp to me.  Unfortunately for Greensboro, many of their tougher games lie ahead.  Good luck to GCP in the USASAC this season!

As a fan/alum the game was very disappointing.  I tried to catch the game via audio/video but was unsuccessful most times.  I will blame it on my internet access (even though I don't think that was the case.)  The QB for GCP showed some poise and didn't play awful, even though his stats didn't reflect that.  I heard through the audio feed there were way too many drops by the WR's in this game.  This is a prefect time for the non-starters to step up this week in practice and show that you have the hands to be a starter.  Do I think the +5 drops to completions would have changed the outcome of game? No, but it would have kept the defense off the field and give them some more rest.

Just by the audio, sounds like some of the defensive players need to hit the weight room hard.  I heard on more than one occasion the RB's for GCQ laying out some defenders.  Defenders are supposed to be laying the wood not the other way around. 

I hope the offense and defense really steps up going forward if I were to grade the team performance in this game it would not be very good at all. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on September 08, 2011, 10:28:14 AM
Here is a link to an article about Maryville's decision to play Tennessee Tech, a scholarship school.  I leave it to others to figure out if this is nuts:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/sport/general/news/details/4024/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 08, 2011, 12:14:43 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on September 08, 2011, 10:28:14 AM
Here is a link to an article about Maryville's decision to play Tennessee Tech, a scholarship school.  I leave it to others to figure out if this is nuts:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/sport/general/news/details/4024/
this could get ugly, but if maryville gets through the game without injuries and without damaging team morale/psyche, it can be a "win" for the program - to be honest, as a fan of a team that, like m'ville, got drubbed in week 1, i would prefer a win that actually goes in the win/loss column - hopefully the monarchs get that "w" this weekend...it's highly unlikely that m'ville will
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2011, 10:00:04 AM
Should be an interesting game in Fayetteville between the Quakers and the Monarchs.  Both schools are coming off poor seasons in 2010.  MU won last year's game 27-21, but it could have gone either way.  That early September loss helped set the tone for Guilford's 0-10 campaign.  Quakers won handily last week over what looked like a weak Greensboro team and the Monarchs got drubbed on the road by a good RMC team, so I see this game as a toss-up for now.  Wish I could be there!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 10, 2011, 07:25:41 PM
nice win for the monarchs today...they really dominated, going up 17-0 after a pick six, fumble recovery that was turned into a long td pass down the seam to adam thomas and a tyler mosko fg - guilford got a score before the half and converted a two point conversion to go down 17-8. The monarchs drove right down the field on the opening drive of the third and went up 24-8, then mosko hit a 45 yard fg for a 27-8 lead and the outcome was all but decided - gcq continued to fight a claw, with #29 pulling in a nice td (he and #82, i think, are both really nice wr's) - murphy then hit vaughn cross on a 7 yard slant that turned into around a 40 yard td and the next mu possession was a 71 yard scamper for a td by murphy - qcq then got a 50+ yard punt return for a td and the final 40-22 margin

the monarch defense looked really nice, and had held gcq in check for 3 quarters, really...gcq racked up a lot of yardage late when the outcome was decided - the defense had a REALLY big goalline stand, denying gcq 4 times from inside the 5...nice win for mu and it was good to see dave eavenson get win #1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 10, 2011, 10:24:13 PM
good for your boys Narch. Coach E is a good man. Hooah
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on September 11, 2011, 12:24:07 AM
Not a pretty weekend for the USAC, as the Monarchs were the only ones to pick up a win.

CNU had a shot to win at Stevenson, we tied the game up late in the 4th but failed the 2-pt try.  The defense held on and gave us another shot at the endzone, but the Mustangs forced a field goal with just around one minute to play.  They marched down the field and put one through the uprights to force OT.  Both teams scored, and in the 2nd extra period, we kicked a field goal before they threw a beautiful pass to the back of the endzone.  Props to Stevenson for the win in their first ever home game.

Next week, CNU will kick off the first night game on campus against Salisbury (RV in the D3football.com poll).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2011, 09:13:26 AM
Congratulations to the Monarchs, narch.  This was one of the games I thought GCQ had a decent chance to win, but five turnovers are hard to overcome.  I'm encouraged, however, and think things are headed in the right direction.  Number 29, by the way, is Ben King from Trinity HS - he started his career at Appalachian, but the injury bug and the depth chart for the Mountaineers didn't afford much playing time.  We're sure glad to have him at Guilford.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2011, 09:21:55 AM
After two games and a cumulative 65-7 score, things haven't looked really good for the Greensboro College Pride.  I hope things get better for them, but they may be looking at a rough season.  The Greensboro News and Record often does "Stars of the Game", with one or more players picked from each squad.  In today's E&H/GCP recap, however, they only did "Star of the Game", with no one noted for the Pride.  I hope not, but I think the Pride may be in for an 0-10 season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 11, 2011, 09:51:38 AM
averett looks like they played relatively well against rmc, despite the loss, and the su/bc game looks like it could have gone either way...su out-gained bc, but also out-turnovered them by 4 to 1

cnu losing to a first year program is SHOCKING, and the ncwc/hsc score is close to that result on the shock-meter...the tigers really dominated the bishops
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 12, 2011, 08:17:14 AM
Narch
Good to be King this weekend....Good for Coach E
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 18, 2011, 08:40:28 AM
without guilford the last 2 weeks, the usasac would be winless...thanks quakers :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 18, 2011, 08:53:31 AM
Quote from: narch on September 18, 2011, 08:40:28 AM
without guilford the last 2 weeks, the usasac would be winless...thanks quakers :)
Enjoy - I don't believe the USASAC will win two of the three next season.  Guilford is improving - a lot.  I think an 0-10 season will belong to a team from the USASAC in 2011.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 18, 2011, 09:21:13 AM
Was at the Ferrum @ HSC game yesterday. While no one expected the Panthers to win, I was personally hopeful to see some real positives come out of the game. For this I was not disappointed. Ferrum made good strides, and although they had a tough time stopping the QB of HSC....who by the way could be a machine, The Panthers did secure two interceptions and were able to put up 14 points. (Possibly could have been 21 if the ref had not completly ignored a pass interference in the end zone. Overall, it was a well called game by the officals.)
Penalties improved for FC, and they seemed to be more disciplined than in week 1. In the end they will grow from this loss.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on September 19, 2011, 02:07:17 AM
CNU played their first nighttime home game this weekend.  They fell just short of beating the all time attendance record, and just short of upsetting #24 Salisbury University.  Long story short: the Gulls scored on their opening drive but not again until late in the half, CNU went into the break down 13-7.  The Captains came out strong and put up 16 straight points to take the lead.  CNU was up by 10 (23-13) with under 10 minutes to play, but could not hold on as Salisbury managed to find the endzone on their last two possessions.  It was certainly a helluva game, very fun to watch and be a part of.  I will say that the referees did not seem to be the most skilled crew, but then again I feel that way about almost every crew.  Their [Salisbury's] #59 jumped for a false start seemingly every other play and was not flagged for it all game; he was also not even on their roster.  Meh.

We fought hard, but couldn't hold on in the end.  The good news is that the schedule from here includes a visit from the bye week and then the start of the USAC schedule, where CNU is looking to repeat as champions.

Our QB (Christian Woelful-Monsivais) looked good, or at least much better than in the opener.  Running back Stovall picked up about 100 yards on 27 carries, not bad considering Salisbury has a top-5 rated rush defense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 19, 2011, 03:56:10 PM
Capt. Bob,

I'm pretty sure we had the ball up 10 points with more like 5 minutes to go. It was just sickening. It was the same story as game 1 and 2. Were winning and had a chance to put the game out of reach but just couldnt get a drive together. Luckily we held on to win game 1. It's like we don't know how to play with the lead. Good teams put together that final drive that eats up the clock and ices the game. CNU has yet to do that in 3 straight games. Each of which we had a 4th quarter lead.

So after 3 games, we have shown we hang hang with teams. I guess it could be worse. We just need to swing the axe when their heads are on the chopping block. Frustrating to say the least.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on September 20, 2011, 12:56:22 PM
Trick play from the Averett - Guilford game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvsTJsGiSwQ
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 21, 2011, 01:30:58 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on September 19, 2011, 03:56:10 PM
So after 3 games, we have shown we hang hang with teams.
as an outsider, it also appears that cnu is playing to the level of the competition - playing salisbury so tight is almost as surprising as losing to stevenson - i'm sure it's frustrating as a fan, but the take-away from this past weekend is a lot more positive than the previous

the monarch game this weekend will tell me a bit more about this team...i expected the loss to rmc and i thought mu had a good shot of beating gcq - ehc gave the monarchs a pretty sound thumping last year, and despite losing jennings and relying on the passing game more than they have for the last few years, they appear to have picked up where they left off last year...if the monarchs can get a "w" this weekend, it could be a good omen for the conference slate
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 21, 2011, 04:07:33 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on September 19, 2011, 03:56:10 PM


I'm pretty sure we had the ball up 10 points with more like 5 minutes to go.

23-13 with 4:33 to go.  :'(

I can't figure out this team. So close to 3-0. Yet 1-2. Oh well, a week off and then the next game. Let the fun begin!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 24, 2011, 02:18:58 PM
mu leads ehc 17-10 at halftime...the wasps had 1st and goal inside the mu 5 and the defense stood tall and gave up just a fg
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 24, 2011, 03:36:01 PM
Looks like it might be a long season for my Bishops :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on September 24, 2011, 08:24:20 PM
Ferrum had the only USAC win of the weekend.  We're up to 5 teams with a 2-1 record overall (the others being 0-3) heading into conference play next weekend.   :-\
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: waspermike on September 24, 2011, 10:08:35 PM
Quote from: narch on September 24, 2011, 02:18:58 PM
mu leads ehc 17-10 at halftime...the wasps had 1st and goal inside the mu 5 and the defense stood tall and gave up just a fg
[/quote ]
Just got in from F'ville ... Narch, I am happy and thankful for the check in "W" column. From my vantage point, MU seemed starved ... my Waspers did not. I know all about moral victories and what they get you. BUT, MU showed their fans and opponents some true grit. I hope that you are proud of them. Without a couple of ints and some senseless penalties, the outcome would have been much different. Thanks to MU for a great afternoon. Everyone was pleasant and most hospitable. Really liked to see the band march in. On to Ashland - WM
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 24, 2011, 10:28:19 PM
waspermike - glad you had a good trip to the 'ville...just not so glad you and your wasps left with a "w"

lots of penalties for the monarchs...15 for 128 per the box score (vs. 1 for 15 for the wasps) and a tough day for the long-snapper may have been the difference in the game - the monarchs can't shoot themselves in the foot like they did today if they want to be a contender in the usasac
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: waspermike on September 24, 2011, 10:39:48 PM
Quote from: narch on September 24, 2011, 10:28:19 PM
waspermike - glad you had a good trip to the 'ville...just not so glad you and your wasps left with a "w"

lots of penalties for the monarchs...15 for 128 per the box score (vs. 1 for 15 for the wasps) and a tough day for the long-snapper may have been the difference in the game - the monarchs can't shoot themselves in the foot like they did today if they want to be a contender in the usasac
Looks like the team is on the cusp of some great things. I had a great conversation with a member of the Admissions Department. He is very enthusiastic about things going on at the campus and with the football team. It shows. Best of luck for the remainder of the season. WM
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 24, 2011, 11:57:04 PM
Quote from: Captain Bob on September 24, 2011, 08:24:20 PM
Ferrum had the only USAC win of the weekend.  We're up to 5 teams with a 2-1 record overall (the others being 0-3) heading into conference play next weekend.   :-\

I think you mean 5 teams with a 1-2 record.

Ferrum seemed to dominate both sides of the ball against the Eagles. Was not there, but to only give up 2 FG's is hopefully an indicator of things to come. Time for the conference play to begin!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on September 26, 2011, 11:34:11 PM
Quote from: Allen C on September 24, 2011, 11:57:04 PM
Quote from: Captain Bob on September 24, 2011, 08:24:20 PM
Ferrum had the only USAC win of the weekend.  We're up to 5 teams with a 2-1 record overall (the others being 0-3) heading into conference play next weekend.   :-\

I think you mean 5 teams with a 1-2 record.

Ferrum seemed to dominate both sides of the ball against the Eagles. Was not there, but to only give up 2 FG's is hopefully an indicator of things to come. Time for the conference play to begin!

I did mean 1-2, thanks for catching that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on September 27, 2011, 01:53:49 PM
If anyone's interested, for funsies.

USA South Pick-ems: http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7492.0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 30, 2011, 09:35:24 PM
Good luck to Adm Pappi and Narch's boys. Narch has become much more hateful over the years ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 01, 2011, 09:21:37 AM
Do not be surprised to see Methodist pull one off today! I have a feeling about this game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2011, 03:31:41 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 01, 2011, 09:21:37 AM
Do not be surprised to see Methodist pull one off today! I ahve a feeling about this game.
;D. I liked your feeling.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 01, 2011, 04:13:15 PM
Bishops found a running game today, ha la lu ua!! :) You made me proud today...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 01, 2011, 09:40:27 PM
the monarchs just didn't come to play today, and cnu capitalized no mu mistakes - the monarch punt return team had a tough day, with 2 muffed punts recovered by the captains and 2 punts that should have been fair-caught, but were allowed to roll inside the one yard line, giving the captains great field position - 2 of cnu's scores were a direct result of these blunders - although the monarchs cut down significantly on the number of penalties, there were a couple at  inopportune times

the 26-14 score is really misleading, as well...the monarchs scored both td's in the last few minutes - they were really dominated by the capts. for all but about 2 minutes today

a few things i did like...max reber did a really nice job punting, filling in for an injured dodd, the monarchs recovered two onside kicks and i like the fact that the team faught until there were zero's on the clock...congrats, to the capts on a big win
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on October 01, 2011, 11:03:37 PM
For the CNU side, it was good to get back on the right track.  Big props to Lyndon Garner, a sophomore filling in at QB after the senior starter hurt his knee early in the game.  Markeese Stovall continues to be an offensive powerhouse and someone to fear in the USA South as he found paydirt for 3 of the 4 Captains touchdowns.    As Narch said, the final score doesn't tell the whole story - the Monarchs scored both of their touchdowns within the final minute of the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 02, 2011, 09:35:59 AM
Congrats to CNU- Guess I should pay more attention to stats than feelings. I do think Methodist is heading in the right direction.

As for Ferrum, they looked really good against Maryville. The Panthers have not allowed a touchdown in 8 quarters. Took care of business against the Scots 27-3. On to Rocky Mount next week. Should be a good game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2011, 08:20:29 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 02, 2011, 09:35:59 AM
Congrats to CNU- Guess I should pay more attention to stats than feelings. I do think Methodist is heading in the right direction.
for what it's worth, i had a similar feeling...mu just didn't come to play early, and the captains did
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 03, 2011, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2011, 09:40:27 PM
cnu capitalized no mu mistakes
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2011, 09:40:27 PM
i like the fact that the team faught

Narch, I am extremely disappointed in you. You being the grammar/spelling nazi and all. I think your correction privileges should be revoked.  ;D But truth be told, there is no need to correct people on here if we all get the point.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 03, 2011, 10:45:52 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 03, 2011, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2011, 09:40:27 PM
cnu capitalized no mu mistakes
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2011, 09:40:27 PM
i like the fact that the team faught

Narch, I am extremely disappointed in you. You being the grammar/spelling nazi and all. I think your correction privileges should be revoked.  ;D But truth be told, there is no need to correct people on here if we all get the point.
the o on my keyboard isn't working properly :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 04, 2011, 07:54:52 AM
Quote from: narch on October 03, 2011, 10:45:52 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 03, 2011, 01:46:47 PM
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2011, 09:40:27 PM
cnu capitalized no mu mistakes
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2011, 09:40:27 PM
i like the fact that the team faught

Narch, I am extremely disappointed in you. You being the grammar/spelling nazi and all. I think your correction privileges should be revoked.  ;D But truth be told, there is no need to correct people on here if we all get the point.
the o on my keyboard isn't working properly :)
If that were true, shouldn't your post have read, "the 'a' 'a'n my keyb'a'ard isn't w'a'rking pr'a'perly"?  I'm just saying ...  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 04, 2011, 01:45:42 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 04, 2011, 07:54:52 AM
If that were true, shouldn't your post have read, "the 'a' 'a'n my keyb'a'ard isn't w'a'rking pr'a'perly"?  I'm just saying ...  :)
but then i would sound like i was from boston :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 04, 2011, 04:43:01 PM
Quote from: narch on October 04, 2011, 01:45:42 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 04, 2011, 07:54:52 AM
If that were true, shouldn't your post have read, "the 'a' 'a'n my keyb'a'ard isn't w'a'rking pr'a'perly"?  I'm just saying ...  :)
but then i would sound like i was from boston :)
Boston, Fayetteville - sometimes I can hardly tell them apart.  They've got Fenway Park and Old Ironsides - you've got Hay Street and Fort Bragg.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 06, 2011, 01:09:16 PM
Please don't copy and paste an entire news story onto the board. Post an excerpt and a link to the full story in order to respect the news organization's copyright.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 07, 2011, 12:09:04 AM
Greensboro should get a win this week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 07, 2011, 11:44:34 AM
Quote from: narch on October 03, 2011, 10:45:52 PM
the o on my keyboard isn't working properly :)

Kinda like the 'O' for Methodist last week.   :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 07, 2011, 02:56:10 PM
Hopefully then Mosh will get the chicks if G-Boro gets the W :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 07, 2011, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 07, 2011, 12:09:04 AM
Greensboro should get a win this week.
I've seen Guilford play both Greensboro and Averett.  I think Averett is the better team, but, to paraphrase the old saying, "on any given Saturday."  Greensboro may beat Averett tomorrow, but I'm not really seeing it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 07, 2011, 08:11:22 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 07, 2011, 12:09:04 AM
Greensboro should get a win this week.
wanna put something on it?

Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 07, 2011, 11:44:34 AM
Quote from: narch on October 03, 2011, 10:45:52 PM
the o on my keyboard isn't working properly :)

Kinda like the 'O' for Methodist last week.   :o
nice...although the monarch offense looked great for the last 50 seconds last week :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 08, 2011, 05:18:27 AM
Heading out this morning to Rocky Mount NC. Looking to meet up with some old friends from Ferrum, and to hopefully see Ferrum go to 2-0 in the conference. Should be a great game- Go Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 08, 2011, 08:36:00 AM
Quote from: narch on October 07, 2011, 08:11:22 PMnice...although the monarch offense looked great for the last 50 seconds last week :)

I should hope so against the back ups! Good luck this week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 08, 2011, 08:28:16 PM
looks like the mu/m'ville game was another classic in the series - unfortunately, the monarchs were on the short-end of the score

reading the game recap, it seems like the monarchs shot themselves in the foot with a number of costly penalties and a turnover of a turnover (the monarchs intercepted a pass in the endzone which they fumbled...and the fumble was recovered for a m'ville td) - the monarchs had a number of opportunities inside the m'ville red zone, and squandered those chances

frosh max reber appears to have played a solid game at qb, throwing for 3 td's...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 08, 2011, 10:43:16 PM
Wow, just wow.

Up 20 - 0 with 7 minutes left in the 4th. Shenandoah mounts a drive. TD! 20-7. We go back to our patented "blow the lead" offense. A quick 3 and out and SU has the ball on their way to another TD. 20-14. So we get wild on our next 3rd down and throw an out. Why are we passing to the sideline when we want to run the clock anyway? Well, you can guess the rest. Picked off and returned almost all the way. Finally with 17 tics to go, TD SU. 20-20 with XP pending. That's when I stepped in. I singlehandedly made the kicker miss. Pretty sure I blew some vocal cords. So, we manage to make it to OT. A tipped pass find our player's hands for a TD. SU goes 4 and out. Game over. 27-20. wow.

However, for 50 minutes CNU DOMINATED Shenandoah. I think they may have had 3 first downs all game. Serious defense. Very impressed. But champions go for the kill when they have the chance. Is this team good enough to be champs? The jury is still out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on October 09, 2011, 12:29:42 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 08, 2011, 10:43:16 PM
Wow, just wow.

[...]

Is this team good enough to be champs? The jury is still out.

Agreed, wow.

And are we good enough to be champs?  Of the USAC, perhaps.

This was the typical 4Q meltdown we've come to expect in Newport News.  No lead is safe with even single tick left on the click.

It's such a shame; our defense is so solid for 50 minutes, but they just can't seem to hold on for the last few drives.  I can't figure it out.  Maybe our pass-d is just weaker and nobody exploits it until the very end out of necessity, or maybe it just takes their QB that long to read it, and we fail to switch things up once he does.

One thing is for sure: CNU needs to ramp it up for the 4th quarter, or I'm going to have a heart attack before basketball season's opening tip.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 09, 2011, 06:59:07 AM
Ferrum in a methodical way, seemed to wear down NCW, and prevailed with a 21-10 win. Mayo had a punt return of 78 yards for a score. After 4 of their first five games on the road, Ferrum returns home to take on a Methodist team that to me is better than they are so far showing. This second half should be fun.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 09, 2011, 08:50:17 AM
Congrats go to Ferrum....Between a strong ,stiff, defense and the Bishops kicking themselves in the foot with penalties at the wrong time, it proved to be too much for the boys. All in all, it was a well fought game and one that any fan could really enjoy. Strong hitting on both sides of the ball. The 78 yd. punt return proved to be the turning point (just my opinion). No doubt, Ferrum is stong and future oponents should be aware, you can not make mistakes against them and expect to win. Congrats to the boys from Ferrum.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 09, 2011, 09:24:49 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 08, 2011, 10:43:16 PM
Wow, just wow.

Up 20 - 0 with 7 minutes left in the 4th. Shenandoah mounts a drive. TD! 20-7. We go back to our patented "blow the lead" offense. A quick 3 and out and SU has the ball on their way to another TD. 20-14. So we get wild on our next 3rd down and throw an out. Why are we passing to the sideline when we want to run the clock anyway? Well, you can guess the rest. Picked off and returned almost all the way. Finally with 17 tics to go, TD SU. 20-20 with XP pending. That's when I stepped in. I singlehandedly made the kicker miss. Pretty sure I blew some vocal cords. So, we manage to make it to OT. A tipped pass find our player's hands for a TD. SU goes 4 and out. Game over. 27-20. wow.

However, for 50 minutes CNU DOMINATED Shenandoah. I think they may have had 3 first downs all game. Serious defense. Very impressed. But champions go for the kill when they have the chance. Is this team good enough to be champs? The jury is still out.

CNU's new D-Coordinator grew up in Winchester.  How 'bout that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 10, 2011, 09:44:13 AM
Just some food for thought.

Before Shenandoah's first score:









CNUSU
Yards337134
1st Downs197
Points200

After CNU's last score in regulation:









CNUSU
Yards31172
1st Downs110
Points020
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 10, 2011, 09:00:15 PM
64,

I do agree that the punt return did help things for Ferrum, but the missed fake FG pass, which I think I could have caught, made me think that the momentum was shifting in the Bishops favor. The receiver could not have been more wide open, nor could the pass have hit him anymore squarely in the hands...still gravity yanked that ball to the ground. It was a good game, and Ferrum has really changed some things up since I saw them play H-SC. Their first two games they gave up 79 points....In their last three, they have given up 19, and of those 19, NCW has the only touchdown.
Good luck the rest of the way!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 10, 2011, 10:15:16 PM
Sorry to be so delinquent in posting stuff up.

Here's the link to The Daily Times coverage of Ferrum's victory over Maryville Oct 1. Not linking to column for props but by going to column and using the link there to the game story it becomes available around the pay wall. Where direct story isnt available.Also links to photo galleries and the How they scored, though a bit ungainly is now included online beside the game story or column.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Scots-flashes-not-enough-against-Ferrum-show-id-016245 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Scots-flashes-not-enough-against-Ferrum-show-id-016245)

This link, same work around to get to game story, is for Maryville's win over Methodist.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Scots-change-attitude-id-016508 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Scots-change-attitude-id-016508)

I have to kick in that while I haven't seen what the cameras actually captured of the oddest play I've seen in a while (Methodist picks Maryville on fade to corner of end zone, corner doesn't go down but tries to run it out, gets crushed by the center and running back, fumbles the ball at the 3 and different Maryville receiver scoops and falls forward for apparent TD. Flag for pass interference declined, excessive celebration accessed on kick off) but Im hoping its a play of the week nominee. It certainly went into the group of weirdest plays I've ever seen in person.

MU is definitely going in the right direction.

Coach said postgame that it was a planned, if unannounced, move to switch to Reber as quarterback and that Murphy took it very well. he sure seemed to be doing something with Reber between series, so I can only assume it was advice and such. I think he's got a good future from what he showed in his first game.

Biggest surprise was Maryville running the ball productively. Picking up a first down on a run everyone knew was coming to bring in the victory formation was a huge step forward from that eight/tenths of a yard per rush against Ferrum.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 11, 2011, 11:09:08 AM
Cameras caught it. :)

http://www.d3football.com/awards/playoftheweek/2011/week6
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on October 11, 2011, 01:42:30 PM
Congrats ? if that's the right word to Maryville and Methodist for winning play of the week.

There is a lot of understanding efforts from at least a half dozen players on both sides during that play.

Good choice by Pat and the guys  ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on October 11, 2011, 09:40:48 PM
Outstanding artlice in this week's Mid-Atlantic Around the Region column by Ryan Tipps featuring Averett University.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 13, 2011, 10:24:23 AM
Quote from: HSC85 on October 11, 2011, 09:40:48 PM
Outstanding artlice in this week's Mid-Atlantic Around the Region column by Ryan Tipps featuring Averett University.
Absolutely.  It's an example of what I hope all sports teams and siblings would do.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on October 15, 2011, 11:47:32 AM
Quote from: HSC85 on October 11, 2011, 09:40:48 PM
Outstanding artlice in this week's Mid-Atlantic Around the Region column by Ryan Tipps featuring Averett University.

Agreed.  A really touching story, and I appreciated the expanded coverage of the USAC.  If there is any way for Averett to honor Rick without a win, I wish them the very best of luck.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 15, 2011, 04:23:58 PM
Ferrum looks good against Methodist, and wins 37-17. Lots of back up players saw action in the 4th qtr. Overall, a solid effort by the Panthers. I watched the CNU/AU game, and both looked good. AU up 14-0 at halftime. Final, CNU 23 AU 14.

NCW and SU winners also

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 15, 2011, 10:21:00 PM
WINCHESTER, Va. - Shenandoah University used a strong first half combined with a late score Saturday afternoon to down Maryville College 28-21 in USA South Conference football action.

Shenandoah (3-3, 2-1 USA South) jumped out to a 21-0 halftime lead, but needed a late touchdown as Maryville (1-5, 1-2) rallied.

Senior Kyle Feldman provided that game-winning score, hauling in a 36-yard touchdown pass from classmate (and roommate) Daniel Wright with 2:27 remaining.

The Hornets needed Feldman's first-ever TD due to a completely different offense from the Scots in the second half.

With negative two yards in total offense before the break, Maryville switched to backup quarterback Melvin Burston to start the second and the freshman delivered, helping MC to 240 yards of total offense in the final 30 minutes.

With 6:13 to play, Burston scrambled for a 31-yard TD to tie the game.

SU then drove 70 yards in just eight plays, finishing with the Wright-to-Feldman strike on 2nd down and 7.

Until Burston's second half heroics, it seemed as if the game was going be a rout as Shenandoah rolled up 298 yards in the opening two quarters to take a 21-0 lead.

SU held the ball for 22:15 in the first half, including an amazing 12:29 in the opening period.

Junior running back Brad Martz did most of the damage, rolling up 140 of his game-high 191 yards rushing in the first 30 minutes.

Defensively, the Hornets had seven tackles (including three sacks) for a total of 40 yards in losses in that same span.

The Hornets finished the game with 416 yards in total offense. In addition to Martz' 191 rushing on 41 carries, senior All-America candidate Rico Wallace had six receptions for 113 yards and one touchdown.

Wright was 15 for 23 for 246 yards, three TD's and two interceptions.

Both interceptions happened deep in Maryville territory.

Sophomore Josh Rogers had nine tackles to pace the defensive effort.

Shenandoah is on the road next Saturday with a 1:00 USA South Conference contest at Methodist.

###
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on October 19, 2011, 04:27:41 PM
Quote from: D-BAT on October 15, 2011, 10:21:00 PM
WINCHESTER, Va. - Shenandoah University used a strong first half combined with a late score Saturday afternoon to down Maryville College 28-21 in USA South Conference football action.

...

Shenandoah is on the road next Saturday with a 1:00 USA South Conference contest at Methodist.

###

http://www.suhornets.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20111015scnlon

Same exact article -.-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 22, 2011, 08:03:40 PM
the monarchs were really bad today, in all phases of the game...fumbled the opening kick and it actually went downhill from there
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 22, 2011, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: Captain Bob on October 19, 2011, 04:27:41 PM
Quote from: D-BAT on October 15, 2011, 10:21:00 PM
WINCHESTER, Va. - Shenandoah University used a strong first half combined with a late score Saturday afternoon to down Maryville College 28-21 in USA South Conference football action.

...

Shenandoah is on the road next Saturday with a 1:00 USA South Conference contest at Methodist.

###

http://www.suhornets.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20111015scnlon

Same exact article -.-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism

It's a PRESS release!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on October 23, 2011, 12:57:23 AM
Quote from: D-BAT on October 22, 2011, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: Captain Bob on October 19, 2011, 04:27:41 PM
Quote from: D-BAT on October 15, 2011, 10:21:00 PM
WINCHESTER, Va. - Shenandoah University used a strong first half combined with a late score Saturday afternoon to down Maryville College 28-21 in USA South Conference football action.

...

Shenandoah is on the road next Saturday with a 1:00 USA South Conference contest at Methodist.

###

http://www.suhornets.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20111015scnlon

Same exact article -.-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism

It's a PRESS release!

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 06, 2011, 01:09:16 PM
Please don't copy and paste an entire news story onto the board. Post an excerpt and a link to the full story in order to respect the news organization's copyright.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on October 23, 2011, 01:10:40 AM
In Newport News today the Captains looked sharp against NC Wesleyan.  I was a little worried late in the first quarter when the Bishops responded to our TD by returning the kickoff all the way, and again in the third when they pulled close at 23:19, but CNU took control of the game and put together a really solid drive.

The CNU press release <http://cnusports.com/news/2011/10/22/FB_1022112609.aspx> has all the stats, but I'd like to just highlight a couple here.  The first is the accuracy of sophomore QB Lyndon Garner.  He stepped into the role midway through the season and tonight went 14-19 (175 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT) and the majority of those incompletions were purposeful to avoid sacks.  The CNU defense was also solid, allowing just 101 rushing yards with 51 coming on a single play.  [I (thought I) saw the runner step out of bounds on the play about 5 yards in, as did our coach, but the referee did not :( ].  The final stat is the attendance, at 6,141.  It is a new record for POMOCO stadium, and the first time the record has been reset since the inaugural game 11 years ago.

The final score may be a bit misleading as both teams scored a touchdown in the final two minutes of the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2011, 10:33:37 AM
good photos from the game yesterday, courtesy of the fayetteville observer

http://photos.fayobserver.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=1347407&CategoryID=1330&ListSubAlbums=0

gotta be honest...the su uniforms are pretty ugly, if you ask me...the players in them were good, but the uni's themselves are a mess :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 23, 2011, 10:37:52 AM
Congrats to the Captains :) As I stated several weeks ago, It is going to be a long season for my Bishops!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCSID on October 23, 2011, 12:24:46 PM
27 Total Penalties for 221 yards at the Maryville vs Averett game on Saturday. Weird game to watch. Live video at http://www.knoxivi.com/maryville_college
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 23, 2011, 07:45:22 PM
Ferrum 66
Greensboro 23

Ferrum had three turnovers in the first half resulting in 13 points for Greensboro. Ferrum had an easy pick six for one of their D-backs, but he forgot to catch the ball.
Panthers had over 600 yards of offense.
Good win, but its a much rougher road from here on out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 24, 2011, 09:45:59 AM
Solid job by CNU. Overall a great day. It was our 10 year reuninon/homecoming weekend so a lot of the old players were there. It was really great to see my old teammates. But man, I am continually impressed by CNU as a whole. The football team(and other teams) is usually one of the best in the conference, our marching band is impressive for D3, you have the massive cheerleader squad, 6000+ crazy fans, the silver storm dance team and to top it off an impressive fireworks display at halftime. I forgot to mention the beautiful campus. As a fan and former student athlete, you just sit back and say, "wow, this is a D3 school?"

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on October 24, 2011, 10:16:14 AM
If Averett's players had kept their trash talking mouths shut, they might have won the game....The refs were not amused but more to the point, neither were Maryville's players.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 29, 2011, 07:40:42 AM
Ferrum at Shenandoah...Major game for both teams...snowing in Winchester right now. They are calling for 5-8 inches.
Not sure which team this will affect the most.
This should be one heck of a game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 29, 2011, 11:02:56 AM
Due to heavy snowfall, the Ferrum @ SU game has been postponed until 1 p.m. Sunday!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2011, 10:00:01 PM
looks like the monarchs had a chance to get a road w today, and let it slip away, losing 28-21 in OT
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 30, 2011, 01:23:08 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 29, 2011, 11:02:56 AM
Due to heavy snowfall, the Ferrum @ SU game has been postponed until 1 p.m. Sunday!

It's 3pm start-time now.

Overall, is USA-South down this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 30, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
Hard to say- Probably others on this board would know better than me, but for the last several years, GC and MU have really struggled....except two years ago GC had a 6-4 season I think.
Ferrum is much improved this year, and CNU is still the favorite to win the conference. NCW is down compared to recent years, but SU is a good deal better in my opinion.
Averett is sort of up and down, and looks like this is more of a down year, but they have some really good potential. Maryville is coming on strong in the latter part of the season. I think they will be stronger next year.
Is the USASC down? Probably about the same, but just a different order.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 30, 2011, 06:59:29 PM
Ferrum Defeats Shenandoah 41-28

This sets up the winner take all game at Ferrum next week against the Captains!

Go Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 30, 2011, 07:25:57 PM
The public press release that I recv'd in my e-mail account this evening ...


QuoteOctober 30, 2011

WINCHESTER, Va. - League leading Ferrum College rolled up over 400 yards in total offense Sunday afternoon in a 41-28 USA South Conference football victory over Shenandoah.

Ferrum (6-2, 5-0 USA South) maintained its position at the top of the USA South standings with the win over SU (4-4, 3-2).

The first-ever Sunday contest in Shenandoah history was needed because of a snowstorm that hit the northern Shenandoah Valley early Saturday morning. The Sprint Field at Shentel Stadium turf was made unplayable by the storm and the field had to be plowed in order to get the game in Sunday afternoon.

Ferrum remains tied for first in the league with Christopher Newport and hosts the Captains this coming Saturday in a game that will decide the league title.

FC had 314 of its 415 yards in total offense on the ground as quarterback Marcus Mayo and halfback Steven Harris both rushed for at least 135 yards.

Mayo had 142 yards and three touchdowns on 25 carries with Harris adding 135 and two TDs on just 11 touches.

Mayo broke open a 14-7 game with a 70-yard TD run around right end at the 7:17 mark of the second that effectively sealed the contest for the visitors.

This scamper also started a run of 27 unanswered points for the Panthers.

SU scored the final three TDs of the game, the last on a Daniel Wright 1-yard QB sneak with 1:22 remaining, but could not recover the ensuing onside kick and Ferrum ran out the clock.

Wright got the late game run started by hooking up with senior classmate Kyle Feldman on a 14-yard TD strike with 1:52 left in the third before sophomore Byron Mitchell scored his first-ever touchdown with a pick-six at the 12:09 mark of the fourth.

Wright's 1-yard sneak was his second of the game - he had made it 14-7 by capping a 10-play, 63-yard drive with a 1-yard run 50 seconds into the second quarter.

Ferrum outgained the Hornets 415-301, including 314 to 69 on the ground.

Wright led the Shenandoah offense with a 23 for 45, 232-yard passing day that included the TD pass to Feldman and three interceptions.

Mitchell had 10 tackles (six solo) to lead the defense.

SU begins a two-game road trip to complete the season with a 1:00 game at Averett on Saturday.

###

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on October 30, 2011, 08:46:54 PM
The largest lead was 41-7 with 5mins left in 3rd qtr.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on October 30, 2011, 11:50:38 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 30, 2011, 06:57:43 PM
Hard to say- Probably others on this board would know better than me, but for the last several years, GC and MU have really struggled....except two years ago GC had a 6-4 season I think.
Ferrum is much improved this year, and CNU is still the favorite to win the conference. NCW is down compared to recent years, but SU is a good deal better in my opinion.
Averett is sort of up and down, and looks like this is more of a down year, but they have some really good potential. Maryville is coming on strong in the latter part of the season. I think they will be stronger next year.
Is the USASC down? Probably about the same, but just a different order.

My opinion is except for Ferrum, I believe the conference is down this season.  CNU barely beat Greensboro, should have lost to Shenandoah if the placekicker makes the PAT with :23 seconds left in the game and have been close in several other games.  However, they are still undefeated in the conference which is a great place to be at right now.  I've seen Ferrum and they seem to be beating up on their opponents since the conference season began.  They've got great looking athletes on both sides of the ball.  Should be a great game between the 2 teams this week.

Shenandoah has done a great job rebuilding their team to a contender in the conference.  Maryville is on a hot streak right now since putting freshman QB Melvin Burston in at starting QB.  The offense has opened up and the team responds well with Melvin leading the offense.  By the way, that was a great road win for the Fighting Scots this weekend against NCW.  Goalline stand at the end of the game was awesome.  NC Wesleyan doesn't seem to have the 2 or 3 great offensive players like they have had in the past.  However, watching the MC-NCW game on the internet on Saturday, NCW middle linebacker has got to be the best LB in the conference.

Averett, Methodist & Greensboro all seem to be young this season and will hopefully develop their freshmen and sophomores for the next several seasons.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on October 31, 2011, 01:17:03 AM
I'm not sure I would say that CNU is "down" this season.  Yes, as you mentioned we are 6-0 in the USAC (along with Ferrum), but tbh the final scores have not been true to the game for the majority of the season.  We had Salisbury (currently #11 in the nation) down 10 points with less than 4 mins to go, but faltered in the closing seconds.  On the same note, we were up 27-10 at Greensboro this past weekend and again allowed two touchdowns in the closing three minutes.  CNU seems to be playing up (and down) to our opponents and therefore have been putting on a thrilling (and at times, cardiac stressing) show this season.

There is no question that this week's game in Ferrum will decide the conference championship, and almost certainly the only USAC bid to the NCAAs.  My hope is that with the importance of the game, our recognition and respect for the Panthers' talent, and the extra day of rest (due to the postponement of Ferrum/Shenandoah), the Captains will be able to hold on for the win.  I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a high scoring game that stays close from start to finish.  Best of luck to Allen C and the rest of the Panthers out there; may the best squad win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on October 31, 2011, 03:02:04 PM
I'd have to agree with Captain Bob. CNU is about 2 plays from being undefeated this season. We have had the lead late in the 4th each game this season. Where I disagree is that the game will be a close one. In years past, I have seen Ferrum come rolling into town averaging close to 500 yards a game only to be shut down by the CNU defense. I know the past is past but this CNU team has a solid defense too. We had Salisbury all but shut down until late. Salisbury went on to score 60 points or more in its next 4 games. My prediction is that CNU jumps on Ferrum early and never looks back.

35-10 CNU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 31, 2011, 06:48:29 PM
Should be a really good game. I hate the thoughts of making the long trek out to Ferrum, but I will not miss this one for the world.
I have kept a pretty close eye on CNU this year, and I agree that they seem to play to the level of their competition. I also have seen....too many times how well and consistently they can stop the option. I am guessing that it will likely not be all that high scoring a game. The defenses will probably dominate the game.
I would not be surprised to see it come down to a field goal.
Good Luck to all the Captain fans.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SUADC on November 01, 2011, 11:26:44 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on October 31, 2011, 03:02:04 PM
I'd have to agree with Captain Bob. CNU is about 2 plays from being undefeated this season. We have had the lead late in the 4th each game this season. Where I disagree is that the game will be a close one. In years past, I have seen Ferrum come rolling into town averaging close to 500 yards a game only to be shut down by the CNU defense. I know the past is past but this CNU team has a solid defense too. We had Salisbury all but shut down until late. Salisbury went on to score 60 points or more in its next 4 games. My prediction is that CNU jumps on Ferrum early and never looks back.

35-10 CNU

I really do not know about Ferrum. However, I know about both Salisbury and CNU. What made the game so close between Salisbury and CNU was definitely the weather and the fact that it was the first night game for CNU and family day. CNU was able to move the ball and capatilize in the red zone (except late) using a down hill run game and great special teams plays. Yet, when it rains, Option teams such as Salisbury tend to struggle because of their lateral movements down the line of scrimmage. If the game was played on a dry field, it would have been totally different   in favor of Salisbury (not taking anything away from CNU defense). But, Salisbury is way better than that game showed or indicated, especially the first three quarters and the first couple minutes of the fourth quarter of that game. Salisbury was able to show their grit and make a great comeback on the road against the most exciting and craziest fans I have had the opportunity of seeing.  Moreover, that's why you play the game, regardless of weather, field, time, and opponent. Nevertheless, both Salisbury and CNU have been playing each other for years (I have played in 4 of those game between 06-09 for Salisbury) and both programs deserve the upmost respect and recognition.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on November 01, 2011, 05:58:17 PM
Quote from: SUADC on November 01, 2011, 11:26:44 AM
the most exciting and craziest fans I have had the opportunity of seeing. 

Thank you for your kind words, sir.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 02, 2011, 07:13:22 PM
Us Crazy?  ;D

Does anyone know if the CNU/Ferrum game will have video streaming? I was planning on making the trek but it's just not in the cards. The radio broadcast has always been good but watching is always more fun.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 02, 2011, 10:26:29 PM
Ferrum does not have video capabilities....yet. They are suppose to by next season. To my knowledge, audio is all that Ferrum can put out. That has been somewhat iffy this year also.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 03, 2011, 12:25:48 PM
We have FM 99.1 locally here in the Newport News area. That always comes in loud and clear for me. I don't bother with internet feeds unless it's video. Oh well.

Really wish I could be there. 48 hours til the conference championship.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 03, 2011, 05:44:45 PM
For all those seniors who read this board remember this is the last time you probably will suit up.

Do not let one second of your last game escape you. Play like it is your last heart beat.

Listen to Vide Cor Meum right before the game.

Congratulations and graduate
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on November 03, 2011, 06:02:59 PM
Game Notes for the de-facto USAC Championship Game this weekend from CNU:

http://cnusports.com/documents/2011/11/3/2011_CNU_Football_GAME_NOTES_at_Ferrum_GAME_9.pdf?id=1848

Includes rosters for both teams, series history, etc.  Lots of good stuff.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 03, 2011, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 03, 2011, 05:44:45 PM
For all those seniors who read this board remember this is the last time you probably will suit up.

Do not let one second of your last game escape you. Play like it is your last heart beat.

Listen to Vide Cor Meum right before the game.

Congratulations and graduate

We still have one more week of games...right? Ferrum has to play Averett, and Maryville comes to CNU on the 12th....  Not to mention, either Ferrum or CNU will play at least one more week after that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 04, 2011, 10:01:13 AM
I stand corrected.  :)

But they still can play like it's the last day of their life.

Captains must be sunk
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Timz81 on November 04, 2011, 11:12:53 AM
Congratulations to coach Mike Dunlevy and his Averett staff on being named the 2011 D3 Senior Classic South team coaching staff!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 04, 2011, 11:48:44 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 04, 2011, 10:01:13 AM

Captains must be sunk

Panthers are looking to do just that. Ferrum is really strong, and I think that this may ....finally be their time. I hope so anyway.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on November 05, 2011, 12:06:27 AM
Link to Daily Times advance on MC GC game today ( feature on Melvin Burston)

http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/Young-quarterback-Burston-guides-the-Scots-during-second-half-rebound-id-017367 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/Young-quarterback-Burston-guides-the-Scots-during-second-half-rebound-id-017367)

I'd have to say — looking at nonconference record — that the conference is down overall this year.

That doesn't mean I don't believe that CNU or Ferrum dont have a prayer in the first round of playoffs, except to say I think the nonconference indicator is going to penalize either one into a game at a No. 1 or No. 2 that will be very tough.

If Mayo comes out playing well I have to give the nod to Ferrum being at home, but we'll see what happens in about 13 hours.

Either way, the way the fourth quarters have gone this season, I'm kind of looking forward to next weekend and seeing one set of cardiac kids against another when Murvul goes to POMOCO.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 05, 2011, 12:16:19 PM
45 Minutes! Chili is on. Radio is on. Ready for the Championship game to start. Go Caps!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 05, 2011, 02:20:25 PM
Wow. What a game. One more half to go!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on November 05, 2011, 02:24:06 PM
CNU up 27-10 at the break.  It's a thriller :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 05, 2011, 04:03:47 PM
48-30 on the road. Nice!!! Third starting qb of year was amazing!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 05, 2011, 06:09:51 PM
good win for the capts....gotta be honest, i thought ferrum would win this one - congrats

it's a good day to be a monarch :)

frosh max reber had an outstanding day today...14-23 for 156 and 2 rushing td's to go along with a great day punting the ball...40 yard average and 4 of 7 inside the 20 - if he continues to develop, he could be a good one down the road
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 05, 2011, 08:33:18 PM
cnu85, congrats to you guys.  maybe a trip to dover will be in the near future for the captains.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 05, 2011, 08:56:41 PM
Wesleydad-  thanks. Maybe a trip to Dover will be in cards. Personally, I would love a rematch with Salisbury. That one hurts still.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SafetyGuy on November 05, 2011, 10:44:32 PM
Nice win for CNU today. Unfortunately no mention on the Virginian Pilot's website Pilotonline.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 05, 2011, 10:51:37 PM
Well, once again, I have to acknowledge that Ferrum was just out played. The Offense for CNU was efficent, strong, amazing, and Ferrum could not find an answer. In the end, I think much if not all of the offensive success came down to the size difference on the line of scrimmage. CNU is far bigger than Ferrum, at least it appeared that way.
Ferrum put up 30, and that is good, but they still are on the outside of the playoffs looking in.
On a positive note, I really think Coach Harper has this team headed in the right direction. They were in contention in his first year, and I believe he will be engaged in the off season to ensure another strong recruiting class.

Congrats to CNU- They deserved to win, and I have to agree...the quarterback was awesome.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 06, 2011, 09:49:39 AM
The story of the Bishops season, fumbles, mistakes, interceptions. Congrats to the Monarch. You took advantage of turnovers and held my boys when you needed to. You deserved the win! Congrats to Narch and all you guys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 07, 2011, 12:52:35 PM
Well under normal circumstances I would have picked Ferrum although I did not not on the pick ems on the ODAC board. And I expected a murderous hitting game (as Ferrum is famous for ) but I am a little surprised to see them not win. 

Good job CNU (as I taste vomit in my mouth saying it)  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 08, 2011, 09:36:26 AM
Congrats to CNU. Finish out this week without any injuries and gear up for the playoffs! I just looked back on the completed portion of the schedule and it's pretty solid. Only two losses, one of which was a 3 point OT loss and the other a 4 point loss to the #10 team in the nation. I wouldn't be suprised to make some noise in the playoffs. The defense is pretty solid and the offense seems to be picking up steam. This 3rd string QB was highly recruited by D1 schools before injury changed the schools' minds. We are fortunate to have such a deep roster. The exciting thing for me is that many of our standouts are freshmen and sophmores.

I know there will be some scary names in the South bracket but I like our chances against anyone of the whole damn pack.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on November 08, 2011, 05:04:24 PM
Congrats to CNU as well. I totally misread that one, but then again, this is the first complete game I think the Captains have put up this season.

Here's The Daily Times coverage of MC win over Greensboro — and congrats to Burston on making D3 team of the week.

Game story
http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/MC-makes-it-four-of-five-with-Senior-Day-win-over-Pride-id-017403 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/MC-makes-it-four-of-five-with-Senior-Day-win-over-Pride-id-017403)

Game column
http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Burston-provides-draw-for-receiver-prospects-id-017398 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Burston-provides-draw-for-receiver-prospects-id-017398)

Some pretty darn good photos of Idlette and Burston in action as well as the rest of the game.
http://photostore.thedailytimes.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=1356688&CategoryID=65804&ListSubAlbums=0 (http://photostore.thedailytimes.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=1356688&CategoryID=65804&ListSubAlbums=0)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 10, 2011, 09:46:21 AM
I was thinking that CNU had a shot to get a home playoff game based on our regional record. I was thinking we were undefeated IN REGION. However, they are showing us as 7-1 in region? Stevenson and Salisbury are both eastern division teams though???? What's the story on this? Maybe we could hear from Pat on how this is determined.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 10, 2011, 09:57:52 AM
On the page with the rankings is a link to the FAQ that explains, among other things, what is considered a regional game.

http://www.d3blogs.com/d3football/2011/11/09/second-ncaa-regional-rankings-2/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 10, 2011, 10:00:08 AM
I just checked and saw the 200 mile rule. That being said, our record (in region) stands at 7-1 with the one loss to Salisbury who is ranked #2 in the east. That Stevenson loss is really rearing it's ugly head. Stevenson is sitting at 2-7 overall.

CNU needs a statement game(and a little help from other teams) in this final week to have a chance for a home game. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on November 10, 2011, 03:51:12 PM
Honestly we don't have a prayer of hosting a game imo.  We are ranked 10th in the South Region, behind 3 teams who are 9-0 and four with just one loss.  I just don't see it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 11, 2011, 01:27:23 PM
Yeah, I think it all comes back to that Stevenson game. Still it is always interesting to see what the NCAA does. The south bracket is always interesting with the tendency to conserve money by creating the "Texas sub-bracket". Which essentially allows a home game to the 5th seeded team. Unfortunately, this year we have a very strong McMurray team in 5th which is also from texas. I think they get in with an at large bid. Im seeing Trinity(3) vs. Mcmurray(5) in round 1. Hopefully we can get a Hampden-Sydney and/or Thomas More loss this weekend. If not I fear we may make the long trek to Texas to face UMHB.

Honestly, depending how the east shakes out, I could see us getting shipped to the east bracket. I have looked at any of the qualifiers in the East.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 12, 2011, 06:41:09 AM
I love saturdays
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 12, 2011, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 12, 2011, 06:41:09 AM
I love saturdays

Me too. I've been out of commission for awhile due to surgery and finally made it to a game today. First game I have seen since the Shenandoah game. I missed Homecoming and the record crowd.

Who is this QB Edwards? The guy is amazing. And he has been sitting the bench for almost 3 full years? 2nd start. 7 TD passes in two games. Goes 17-24 for 331 yards. I have to go check his season stats. I bet in the 2.5 games he has played they are impressive. And who is #81? I saw this huge TE out run the entire MC defensive backfield. They looked to have the angle on him and he smoked them.

I wonder where we are going to travel next week???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 12, 2011, 08:49:39 PM
Edwards is 39-54. That's 72%. A passing eff of over 200. 7 touchdowns and only 1 int. Not bad for less than 2 1/2 games of work. Averaging 192 yds per game and that's with the half game going 6-7 for I think 39 yards. I say he starts next year. The job is his. Haha. Glad I'm not the coach. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 12, 2011, 08:55:45 PM
mu finishes off gc 31-14 to end the season on a 2 game winning streak...3-7 isn't the way i wanted to season to go, but they lost 3 one-score games - if this team can figure out how to win the close games next year, they could be in the thick of the race

congrats to cnu on a solid season...but for one shocking game (stevenson), they could be potentially hosting this weekend...i've got to be honest, i didn't see the kind of season they had coming after the first few weeks - make the conference proud next week boys
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 12, 2011, 09:05:16 PM
Thanks Narch. CNU has amazed me this year with all the injuries to starters and the players keep coming off the bench. CNU was the closest they ever have been to being 10-0. It will be interesting tomorrow at 6pm to find out who they play and where. I think we will be on the road. I hope not but the south is such a huge region with a ton of excellent teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 12, 2011, 09:12:12 PM
Ferrum finished strong today against Averett. Ahead 33-9, They must have gone to back ups for most of the 4th qtr. Final 33-25. Mayo had 175 yards rushing with 2 TD's, and was 5 of 8 passing for 135 yards and a TD.
He finishes the season with 915 yards rushing, and 12 rushing TD's. He also threw for 1381 yards passing, and 8 TD's. I am thinking that he may well repeat as USA South offensive player of the year.

Who do you see for Coach of the year? I am guessing it will be Kelchner. Is it an automatic that conference champion get this award? For getting second place in his first year as a head coach, I think Harper should get some consideration. I am however quite biased.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 12, 2011, 10:11:40 PM
Allen C - good points about Coach of Year. I think the FC should be considered and maybe should  win the award had it not been for one thing. CNU injuries. CNU lost it's top two QB, their top RB, their top receiver and all- American return man has sat out 3 or 4 games, one game had the entire starting LB corps out. And they run the table in the conference at 7-0 including a commanding win at Ferrum. For those reasons I think Kelchner should be the Coach of the Year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on November 12, 2011, 10:31:32 PM
SU defeats NCW by the score of 28-7 to finish with their best season since 2004.

Now, the only problem for next year is that they are losing 19 seniors and I think 11 of them are starters +++ going into the ODAC +++ Ferrum and CNU on the non-conference schedule.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 13, 2011, 08:49:58 AM
Quote from: Allen C on November 12, 2011, 09:12:12 PM
Who do you see for Coach of the year? . . . Is it an automatic that conference champion get this award?

It has pretty much been that way except for when CNU won 4 straight championships. The 3rd and 4th year it went to a team that wasn't expected to have as much success as they did.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 13, 2011, 01:43:53 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 12, 2011, 10:11:40 PM
Allen C - good points about Coach of Year. I think the FC should be considered and maybe should  win the award had it not been for one thing. CNU injuries. CNU lost it's top two QB, their top RB, their top receiver and all- American return man has sat out 3 or 4 games, one game had the entire starting LB corps out. And they run the table in the conference at 7-0 including a commanding win at Ferrum. For those reasons I think Kelchner should be the Coach of the Year.

That makes a lot of sense, and I have to admit, they handled Ferrum a lot easier than I thought they would. I guess I just overall see Ferrum as a team that has show a huge degree of improvement since last year. I really think that the Panthers made a larger stride from last year to this year...SU did also. CNU ended where everyone expected, but they did, as you said overcome a lot of adversity.
Good year for the Panthers, but I hate to see Mayo go. Looks like they will lose(starters) Mayo, 2 RB's, 2- O linemen, 1 LB, and 1 DB

What about Offensive POY...any candidates? does Mayo repeat?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 13, 2011, 03:11:35 PM
I haven't paid too much attention to rest of conference the past several weeks. Based on my limited knowledge I would have to say Mayo gets POY. However someone could remind me about someone I'm just not thinking about. Stovell would have given it a shot had he not been injured. Edwards has player of year stats but only for the 3 games he has played. So I think the nod goes to Mayo. One heck of a player.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 13, 2011, 08:32:41 PM
I would think SU's Rico Wallace will be considered for POY also.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on November 14, 2011, 03:19:14 AM
CNU will play on the road in New Jersey at Kean.  Kean is ranked 12th on the d3football poll.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2011, 08:22:58 AM
I have never seen such a chopped and mixed bracket. I don't know if you can even give it a cardinal direction. As in the "West Bracket". Technically UW-Whitewater is a West team. We are south obviously along with Thomas More. Then thrown in some east teams (salisbury, kean and W. New England) and top it off with Albion and Franklin from the North.

Not sure why they avoided sending us to Salisbury (closest in proximity). Then Kean couldve played Western New England (Short drive). To me that makes sense. Maybe the NCAA didnt want the rematch?

Either way, I think we can make some noise. It's hard to say how good they really are. We will find out saturday that's for sure.

I know I will be there. Any other CNU crazies going to the game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2011, 08:27:18 AM
Another side note. I just checked the UMHB bracket which includes west, south and east teams. They have a texas sub-bracket (Trinity vs. McMurry) and a west coast sub-bracket (Linfield and Cal Lutheran). No big deal. What is odd is the team the west coast teams have to play next. Either Wesley(Delaware) or Hobart(New York)! Wow. Guranteed at least one cross continental flight coast to coast.

This is for sure the oddest overall playoff bracket I have ever seen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on November 16, 2011, 07:57:34 PM
I might have made the drive up to see the Kean game, but will be heading west to St. Louis to follow the volleyball team to the national championship instead.

In football news, Kelchner got the Coach of the Year nod.  A very balanced lineup for conference honors imo, with the top player awards going to four different schools.

Full details:  http://cnusports.com/news/2011/11/16/FB_1116114006.aspx

The local paper also did a great article on Kelchner's take on the Penn State scandal:
http://www.dailypress.com/sports/colleges/dp-spt-teel-column-kelchner-paterno-20111109,0,1485514.column
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2011, 02:24:04 PM
A lot of CNU action this weekend in sports. I wish I was a little further along in post surgery I would be on the the way up to NJ right now. I def will be listening tomorrow on radio. Good luck Captains.

Now time to go follow volleyball.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 20, 2011, 08:11:36 AM
Turnovers...will...kill...you

With 1:30 left in the 2nd quarter the score was 14-7 Kean over CNU. Then we hand the game to Kean by throwing 3 picks inside our own 40. The sick thing is that in the 2nd half, Kean did not even get one first down. CNU defense was overall outstanding and only allowed one drive all day. Everything else started inside the 30 yard line. It's a sick way to lose a ball game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 20, 2011, 08:14:13 AM
Kean amassed an impressive 18 yards in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 28, 2011, 01:33:54 PM
maryville makes it official...they are looking for a head coach

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/sport/football/news/details/4178/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 28, 2011, 03:03:00 PM
That's about 8-9 families on the street right before the holidays. Good timing Maryville.

As the Director of comms said "it's not about W/Ls". Sure honey......

NOW I remember why I did not have the guts to be a college coach for more than one season. Ruthless
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 28, 2011, 09:41:28 PM
looks like coach i isn't really pleased that he's looking for a job, either...http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/nov/28/tony-ierulli-blames-political-correctness-for/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on November 30, 2011, 01:05:16 PM
Had a few request for The Daily Times links on the Ierulli saga. These will get you to the originals.

Nov 23 - Dismissal story
http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/MC-dismisses-football-coach-Tony-Ierulli-id-018025 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/MC-dismisses-football-coach-Tony-Ierulli-id-018025)

Nov. 23 column
http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Silence-ensures-it-wont-be-all-right-id-018009 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Silence-ensures-it-wont-be-all-right-id-018009)

Nov. 29 correction column
http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Fessin-up-when-you-done-wrong-id-018210 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Fessin-up-when-you-done-wrong-id-018210)

Nov 28 - Official release story
http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/MC-Ierulli-asked-for-delay-in-announcing-dismissal-id-018167 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/MC-Ierulli-asked-for-delay-in-announcing-dismissal-id-018167)

Nov 30 - AD says, coach says story
http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/Ierulli-questions-dismissal-AD-says-it-wasnt-personal-id-018209 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/Ierulli-questions-dismissal-AD-says-it-wasnt-personal-id-018209)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on November 30, 2011, 01:10:04 PM
For the moment Locke, Hayes and Elliott are still employed by MC full time.
We were told they are out recruiting and that an interim head coach will not be named.

I can't help but think its going to be a hard sell to talk to players about coming to a school with no coach and no guarantee the guy talking to them will be there in the fall.

The part timers that wish to be are being retained until a coach is hired and decides on them as well.

Search committee chaired by Joe Dawson meets today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 30, 2011, 01:29:57 PM
Bard
Thanks for the updates.

SHE may be getting ready to dump football next. Nobody in their right mind wants to step into a hole that is awaiting them.

"Nothing personal" means "I would like to whack you". When you fire a coach it is usually supported by empirical data. "Nothing personal" LOL!!....it screams BS. As soon as she mentioned that she was a female she let that puppy out the bag....nothing personal....whatever

Nice school and town.

Crying shame
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 30, 2011, 01:46:22 PM
i think it was bill walsh who once said that at around 10 years the message stops getting through...maybe the ad ascribes to this theory

while i feel bad for coach i and his staff, every coach knows that there is about a 90% chance that he/she will be fired at some time when they get into the profession...there aren't many who get to ride into the sunset on their own terms - at this point he should start firing off his resume...he'd make a heck of a dc for someone
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 01, 2011, 12:30:05 AM
Bard, thanks for the coverage of the story...

Looking at the success to date at Maryville, Coach Ierulli was on his way to having a tremendous legacy as a head coach.

He took the school into an affiliation with the conference it would eventually join, after the university had been instrumental in developing its own conference (GSAC) that just did not quite get off the ground for the men.

Going from 5-25 in the 3 previous years to a 24-25 in the USA South in 7 seasons and 39-50 overal tells me that he was accomplishing the goals that are not stated in the won-loss column for his alma mater.

He saw what was not working this season and changed course to take the program where it needed to go.

The critical areas that AD Schram will need to address will be:

-- retention among the football players in the current class. In a school such as Maryville, the loss of 25 undergrad players who are not replaced in this coaching turnover may mean (25 players times $20,000/yr net revenue times 2 years) $1 Million in revenue. In this economy, that will be hard to make up.  I suspect that Maryville had a major attrition of freshmen football players who realized that they could not make it in D-III college ball. The success of Maryville as a college experience is what would keep that former student-athlete as a student.  If there is a bad taste among the "25" or more, then AD Schram will be scrambling to retain the revenue producing bodies.  Losing upperclassmen hurts a program because 18-year-old freshmen are not as big as 22-year-old seniors.

(We finally got our senior class back this year at McMurry.  Look at our 2000 "decade of disaster" when the wheels fell off the program because of a departure of one coordinator to start the Louisiana College program and the tragic ugly agonizing death from colon cancer of the Head Coach Steve Keenum's (father of UH's Chase Keenum) friend and other coordinator.  It took 3 head coaches and a shift in the direction of the university to break out of that tailspin.)

-- keeping the faith and the funds of the friends and alums.  Football is the South; the South is Football.

I anticipate that this will be hard.  The wheels fell off but we had trouble fixing the football program amidst general success in the athletic department. From our experience at McMurry where we had winning programs in Men's and Women's Hoops, a perennial power in Track and Field (Men's National Champs in 2008 led by the first Female Head Coach, Barbara Crousen, of a Men's National Championship team in NCAA history), a winning baseball program, and competitive programs in M/Wcross country,  M/W tennis, volleyball, M/W golf and M/W swimming,  Football was the key in Texas.  That may not be the case in east Tennessee, but that is SEC country and they love their football, at any level.  Coach Ierulli was competitive in that conference.

Ierulli had to have been a well-connected alum.  That is hard to overcome in the Maryville family.  The fact that Coach Randy Lambert appears to have been on his side (Knoxnews article) also drives a wedge into the situation.

I wish the Maryville fans the best for them.  Aside from moral turpitude, repetitive criminal behaviors by players or embezzlement, it sounds like there are no significant grounds for his dismissal that football players/alums/friends would consider adequate.


(I recommend the book Hard Ball for Women by Pat Heim to understand some of the dynamics of women in competition.  I especially like her example of the game, "4-square". Men and women are different competitive creatures.  Any coach who had coached both knows it well.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: @d3jason on December 01, 2011, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: narch on November 30, 2011, 01:46:22 PM
i think it was bill walsh who once said that at around 10 years the message stops getting through...maybe the ad ascribes to this theory

while i feel bad for coach i and his staff, every coach knows that there is about a 90% chance that he/she will be fired at some time when they get into the profession...there aren't many who get to ride into the sunset on their own terms - at this point he should start firing off his resume...he'd make a heck of a dc for someone

Yes but that's with pros, with the amount of turnover in a college program, I don't see that as much as a factor.

Agreed, that coaching is a tough profession, not much stability if you want coach as the college level.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: historymajor on December 01, 2011, 11:58:21 AM
Ralph,,, funny we should meet here..  over this!  The 'kinder-gentler' approach usually means bad news for football.  As gender-equity spreads and more and more AD's come out of women's sports, I'm not sure what's going to evolve!  Your thoughts?  (and by the way, good luck in DII and to Coach Ierulli)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 01, 2011, 12:37:04 PM
Admissions and retentions for student-athletes are make or break issues for small liberal arts colleges like McMurry or Maryville.

Maybe not as much for the Trinity's and Emory's of the world...

Since football is big in the south and may have the biggest incremental impact on admission and retention, then we will see how successful she is with her philosophy and the financial success of the institution that can atributed to her efforts and actions.

This is not necessarily "cut and dried" as a gender issue.  McMurry's outstanding Men's Track Coach, Barbara Crousen, a multi-year winner of South Region Men's Track Coach of the Year, knows how to motivate men.  In my dealings with her, and imagining how I, a cross country runner and miler, would have related to her as my track coach, I would have run thru brick walls for her!  She is inspiring.  It is hard to find the words but the genders take different styles, and the wise administrator will be comfortable with success when it occurs.  It seems to me that Coach Ierulli was successful.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on December 01, 2011, 12:50:15 PM
Everything has a learning curve. I remember my Dad coaching me for years in soccer. He spent one season coaching my sister and said there was no way he would ever coach girls again. And he never did. I'm sure he could have learned how to do it eventually, it just wasn't for him.

As with any job or position of responsibility, people often come into the role feeling like their way of doing things is the best or only way of doing it. Often, as they grow into the role, they find that what worked for them and got them to their position, won't work for others. The people that learn and adapt when coming across these situations, regardless of gender, tend to be successful. Those who try and ramrod a theory down subordinate's throats often find themselves unsuccessful and out of a job.

It will be interesting to see what happens at MC. Unfortunately, changes in bosses in any institution/workplace often lead to turnover in the workforce. It seems like the football coach got stuck in that kind of situation. Hopefully he will land on his feet and MC will find a coach that can be successful both on the field and with the new AD. If not, the AD probably won't last beyond her first 1 or 2 unsuccessful football hires...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on December 09, 2011, 09:46:11 AM
http://www.greensborocollegesports.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/201112071nijjl

Congrats to the Pride player, MVP at the National Bowl.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on December 11, 2011, 01:14:57 PM
Ralph Turner, who usually knows of which he writes, says:  "Aside from moral turpitude, repetitive criminal behaviors by players or embezzlement, it sounds like there are no significant grounds for his dismissal that football players/alums/friends would consider adequate."  I submit that in this instance perhaps my friend is assuming too much. 

There are lots of things about any program that are not obvious to people looking, however carefully, from outside.  Maryville's retention rate for players who were recruited to play football, for instance, was not very good.  Coach's claim in the press that he got a 3.1 evaluation (out of 5) from his own players and that he thought that was pretty good makes me wonder how he thinks.  I am not sure I would be bragging in public about such an evaluation.  His "suggestion" that this is all about a couple of softie women (the AD and the VP of Student Affairs) not understanding manliness is insulting and revealing.  And Coach Lambert (men's basketball) was characterized as supporting the football coach by the football coach, as relayed by a reporter.  I would not bet much on the veracity of that claim.

Coach Iruelli asked MC to delay the announcement over the Thanksgiving weekend so he could rally an army of angry supporters.  He was unable to do so.  I guess all the real men were tripped out on turkey.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 11, 2011, 04:10:16 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on December 11, 2011, 01:14:57 PM
Ralph Turner, who usually knows of which he writes, says:  "Aside from moral turpitude, repetitive criminal behaviors by players or embezzlement, it sounds like there are no significant grounds for his dismissal that football players/alums/friends would consider adequate."  I submit that in this instance perhaps my friend is assuming too much. 

There are lots of things about any program that are not obvious to people looking, however carefully, from outside.  Maryville's retention rate for players who were recruited to play football, for instance, was not very good.  Coach's claim in the press that he got a 3.1 evaluation (out of 5) from his own players and that he thought that was pretty good makes me wonder how he thinks.  I am not sure I would be bragging in public about such an evaluation.  His "suggestion" that this is all about a couple of softie women (the AD and the VP of Student Affairs) not understanding manliness is insulting and revealing.  And Coach Lambert (men's basketball) was characterized as supporting the football coach by the football coach, as relayed by a reporter.  I would not bet much on the veracity of that claim.

Coach Iruelli asked MC to delay the announcement over the Thanksgiving weekend so he could rally an army of angry supporters.  He was unable to do so.  I guess all the real men were tripped out on turkey.
+1!

Thanks for the post.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 11, 2011, 05:55:50 PM
sorry to break the chain since you are making some pretty good points Dr Turner. You're good for advanced age. Like me.  ;)

ADM Papi, Narch, and you Methodist dudes need to shop around in Havelock. The 16-0 State Champions.  I played in 6 and coached in 7 playoff games there. About time somebody won that thing.

They pretty much were unstoppable after smitting 4-A New Bern. If they do not have any talent they will at least hit you HARD

There's got to be some studs down by the river.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on December 13, 2011, 07:36:27 PM
This is the story from the Highland Echo - The Maryville College student newspaper - talking to Ierulli. (The site carrying it seems to run all stories like a blog, so you have to scroll to bottom and click more by the headline)

http://blountpressrow.com/college.php (http://blountpressrow.com/college.php)

ScottieDoug I have a copy of the player evals that I assume are real since there contain all manners of handwriting and grammatical styles. Ierulli's math is pretty good on the average.The problem I ran into is there is nothing to compare the score to out there and no way to get it from a private school. We can't compare it to soccer or basketball or even past seasons to establish any baseline.

The college also no commented on what Ierulli and players have told me that the evals were filled out with AD Schram doing to instruction and collection of forms for the coaching staff. I don't know if that's kosher or not. It hadn't been done that way for football in previous year end meetings, but I don't know yet if that procedure was used for all fall sports teams as a change in athletic department policy or not.

It's made it very frustrating to not be able to file a FOI request for records to make any comparisons and if officials choose not to talk, it pretty much kills the conversation. But at the end of the day, it's not like the school will rehire Ierulli from alum pressure. The school seems to be moving on and only time will give us a measuring stick of the firing's impact on some of the football program's critical areas like recruitment and retention. I'd guess Ierulli is moving on to a new job. I do believe he'll be a big plus to someone if he's given the chance to focus on one area as the DC. (There is irony in the fact he led the USASAC coaches in the Liberty Mutual coach of the year voting)


And to totally stray into new ground, has anyone got a lowdown on what the schedules will look like next season? I'm guessing it will be plug and play with LaGrange simply filling Shenandoah's spot in the rotation for football, but haven't heard if that's what will happen or if the league is looking at making tweaks while it's on the table.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 13, 2011, 07:55:44 PM
Thanks for the link, 'bard.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 14, 2011, 12:38:35 PM
So has the coach gotten any bites somewhere? Don't know the guy but from what I have read it was probably a mistake to let him go. You ALWAYS have a couple of people who will not be happy anywhere they go so you have to look at it holistically before you hammer someone. I think it's BS to in this case. The one statement I hang on is the one the female adminsitrator made about "it's not about him being a man and me being a woman" or words to that effect. If it was not she would have never said it.

Sounds like a EO complaint to me. I (personally) would never go back to a situation like that but it's all about accountability.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on December 14, 2011, 03:27:03 PM
i was turned on to this video by a friend today, and thought it relevant to the firing of coach i, particularly given his assertions about why he was fired

i think almost every college in the country would love to have bill curry coaching and here is one of his statements from the video "there's not an easy way, or a nice way or a polite way" to teach football

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjgX94dxh7M
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 15, 2011, 02:23:46 PM
good one Narch. +1 for you today. Curry is spot on. And so are you....most of the time.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on December 16, 2011, 03:31:16 PM
It was Coach I who asserted in the press that his dismissal was somehow related to the gender of the AD.  I submit that people who have inadequate information have as much right to an opinion as do people who know the details of a situation...  The idea that all "tough" coaches are alike and worthy of deference because they are "tough" is silly and not a very good basis for either an opinion or an employment decision.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on December 17, 2011, 09:42:15 AM
Quote from: scottiedoug on December 16, 2011, 03:31:16 PM
The idea that all "tough" coaches are alike and worthy of deference because they are "tough" is silly and not a very good basis for either an opinion or an employment decision.
i certainly hope that you don't think that i was asserting that all "tough" coaches are alike...the point i'm making is that one of the most highly regarded football minds (bill curry) is acknowledging that "there's not an easy way, or a nice way or a polite way" teach men to be good at football and life

one of coach i's other assertions was that he was fired in part because he was too hard on the players...i understand fully that there are two sides to every argument, and that we have (and likely will only) hear one side
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on December 17, 2011, 10:29:46 AM

Scottie
I am NOT attempting to get a atta boy for what I did but I am saying this for a making a point. I coached in high school and at the NAIA level.  I coached at a Havelock where being tough was considered a requirement. Sometimes we only fielded a 35 man team. I was also a Special Operations officer and a Ranger. I think I kind of know what tough is, what brutal was, and what guys could take. I also did not compare tough coaching as in one basket. a Ranger has a 40% chance of becoming a Ranger. That means 60% did not make it. So if I applied that to coaching which I did I had a high attrition rate with my linebackers. Some just could not hack. that's called a vetting process or standards. If you are not tough enough to hack it that's the way it went. You did not lower your standards of toughness to make everyone feel good. Not everybody got a atta boy or a trophy. In combat you get kilt and in coaching you lose. Neither one is palatable. Coach "I "who I do not know, but I read he did not lower his standards. Standards are non negotiable.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on December 17, 2011, 04:55:27 PM
There are many ways to instill and encourage and demand effort and "toughness" and some are unacceptable even in football, which is the subject here.  There is also the issue of how the student-athletes (not a joke term in D3) do in the student part.  I am only offering that without adequate information from sources other than the man who got fired, perhaps observers should consider that the administrators were acting in the best interests of the school as well as the students.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on December 18, 2011, 10:27:02 PM
Here is a link to an article in the Knoxville News Sentinel, which ran the story with many allegations by Maryville College's fired football coach about why he was fired, about the process being used to hire a new coach.  While the AD does not address the coach's statements,  you can read between the lines and, of course, come to whatever conclusions you wish:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/dec/17/maryville-colleges-search-for-a-football-coach/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 18, 2011, 10:48:34 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on December 18, 2011, 10:27:02 PM
Here is a link to an article in the Knoxville News Sentinel, which ran the story with many allegations by Maryville College's fired football coach about why he was fired, about the process being used to hire a new coach.  While the AD does not address the coach's statements,  you can read between the lines and, of course, come to whatever conclusions you wish:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/dec/17/maryville-colleges-search-for-a-football-coach/
Thanks, Doug.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on December 20, 2011, 08:57:59 PM
I've been waiting for sometime since Coach Ierulli was fired to let my feeling be known.  I love Maryville College.  Maryville College did not do this to Coach I, but it is the work of a terrible AD in Kandy Schram and VP of low character in Vandy Kemp.

Thanks to all who have commented on the MC situation during the past few weeks.  It is clear you have seen through the smoke and understand what has developed at MC.

The most recent article is major spin-control by AD Schram who is getting blasted by alums, fans, and (yes Scottiedoug) former Ierulli football players on a daily basis.  Kemp is really behind the removal of Coach I and Schram is her mouthpiece.  Schram has been the AD for 3 years and the department is in great disarray.  Have you wonder why the 2 strong figures in the athletic department, Randy Lambert and Pepe Fernandez, are not on the search committee??  Simple, Schram doesn't want to get them involved in the search for the new head coach because both strongly supported Coach I.

Here's some misleading facts from the article in which Schram implied that Coach Ierulli had not been involved. 

1) She wants someone to be able to speak to the local Kiwanis Club  --  Ierulli is a member Maryville Kiwanis Club and has spoken to the club on several occasions.  In fact, he spoke to the Alcoa Club twice which Schram is a member of the organization.

2) Ierulli had his players get involved with the "Reading is Fundamental" program at the local elementary schools every year.

3) Last March when tornadoes ripped through Tennessee and especially in the Greenback area, Ierulli sent his football team out in the Greenback community for a day helping the residence cleanup from the damages caused by the tornadoes.  Maryville College, the MC community outreach program and the MC Volleyball team never volunteered their time to help out the local residence.  The article is still posted in the hallway of the MC athletic complex....

4) Schram commented there is no reason why the football team can't be as good as the basketball, soccer and her volleyball teams.  Everyone with MC knows that the football program has been association with the USA-South Conference while the rest of MC athletic teams are in the Great South Athletic Conference which is probably one of the worst conferences is Division III.  There are only 4 men's teams in the conference and most of the women's teams are so bad that most average high school teams can beat the GSAC's volleyball teams.  Why do you think Schram has such a good record and was fighting against Maryville joining the USA-South Conference in all sports. 

5)  Finally the implication that Coach I didn't treat his players well is just laughable.  Just ask the many alums, parents and others who watched the practices and games.  Watch Randy Lambert get in the face of his players during a game when they make a mistake, not any difference between the two coaches.

Finally, with an Athletic Director who took her volleyball team twice overseas this past summer to get ready for her season, taken away all concessions revenue from the basketball and soccer teams as a source of revenue for their program and given the running of all athletic concessions to a former volleyball player and her husband, and tearing apart a great enviroment which Coach Randy Lambert put together during his 20+ years as an athletic director – Kandi "Let's Go" Schram should be looking into a mirror to find out what the real problem is......

Scottiedoug, you can email me anytime. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on December 21, 2011, 10:40:08 AM
People with factual information about this can and obviously do disagree.  I respect ProudFightingScot's take on this, although I do not agree with his conclusions.  The opinions of some other people on the board about this, unlike those of PFS, were not based on anything but Coach I's explanation as reported in the paper.

I do not think the basketball or soccer coach should be on the search committee for the football coach. 

The implication that Maryville teams that do well in the GSAC are not any good because the conference is weak is not supported by the evidence of how they do outside the conference.
There are lots of reasons to wish MC had been able to join a league other than the USASouth; a big one is that the time and financial costs for travel for MC to participate in the USASouth are high...higher than if there could have been a configuration involving teams closer to Maryville (Centre, Sewanee, Oglethorpe, LaGrange, Piedmont, Berry, Covenant,...). 

Accusing VP Kemp of "low character" is a cheap shot.

That Randy Lambert gets "in the face of his players during a game when they make a mistake" does not equate to the fact that there is "not any difference between the two coaches."  Coach Schram is not exactly a passive coach and I suspect PFS thinks there is some difference between her and Coach I.

Obviously PFS knows MC people who are unhappy about this.  I know MC people who are not.  I also know MC people who are unhappy and I bet PFS knows some who are not.

My main point all along has been that this is complicated and that Coach I's explanation is nowhere near the whole story.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on January 11, 2012, 07:04:28 PM
As SU just completed it best season since 2004 but graduated some very talented players (11 seniors) and moving into the ODAC conference will not be friendly to the Hornets in their inaugural year.

If they go 4-6 next year, then that will surprise me.  I look for wins vs. Stevenson, Guilford and Catholic, so 3-7 should be expected.

SU's 2012 schedule and the only really gimmy game is Steveson as the rest of the schedule is a very competitive.  It's probably the most difficult schedule ever in SU football history.

September
Sat   1    at Stevenson         
Sat   8    Ferrum          
Sat   15    Christopher Newport         
Sat   22    at Bridgewater *

October   
Sat   6    Guilford *    
Fri   12    at Catholic *         
Sat   20    Hampden-Sydney *          
Sat   27    Randolph-Macon *          

November   
Sat   3    at Emory & Henry *         
Sat   10    at Washington & Lee *   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on January 11, 2012, 08:22:20 PM
May not be as bad as you think. W&L and H-SC graduated some big names this year and have holes to fill. I expect H-SC and R-MC to both be the class of the ODAC and you get them both at home. R-MC has seemed to be beatable at times on the road the last few years. Bridgewater and Guilford are wildcards. I'm not sure what Bridgewater brings back, but I fully expect Guilford to be much improved next year. Guilford was young, had a new coach, and had injury issues this year, making them appear much worse than they showed the last two games of the season. Catholic I would put toward the bottom and you get them on the road, same with E&H, but you they are always tough at home. W&L has been strong at home the last few seasons, but the Generals have big question marks at QB, center, and defensive back.

I think Shenandoah can pull a 4-3 or 3-4 season in ODAC play, leaving the real question the three non-conf games. Either way, welcome to the ODAC. You'll find our board is congenial, knowledgeable, and fairly active.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on January 12, 2012, 08:10:53 AM
Quote from: D-BAT on January 11, 2012, 07:04:28 PMSU's 2012 schedule and the only really gimmy game is Steveson
hmm....well, they did beat cnu this past season...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 12, 2012, 11:50:21 AM
Quote from: D-BAT on January 11, 2012, 07:04:28 PM
If they go 4-6 next year, then that will surprise me.  I look for wins vs. Stevenson, Guilford and Catholic, so 3-7 should be expected.

September
Sat   1    at Stevenson         
Sat   8    Ferrum          
Sat   15    Christopher Newport         
Sat   22    at Bridgewater *

October   
Sat   6    Guilford *    
Fri   12    at Catholic *         
Sat   20    Hampden-Sydney *          
Sat   27    Randolph-Macon *          

November   
Sat   3    at Emory & Henry *         
Sat   10    at Washington & Lee *
Coach Rusciewicz and staff, here's your bulletin board material for the first week in October.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on January 14, 2012, 11:40:37 AM
I have heard that Melvin Burston has transferred out of Maryville and is going to Webber College.  From what I hear he was unhappy with the coaching change and the direction the athletics was going.  That was the freshman player of the year for the conference and the Qb of the future.  Not to mention our only remaining offensive weapon.  I can't help but wonder if this is not the first of many transfers.  All I can say is, if true, that offensively (with the graduation of Idolette and other key wide recievers) this looks like it is going to be a rough season for Maryville's offense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on January 19, 2012, 11:31:12 AM
PFS may be correct,  On the other hand, Burston's sister was killed in an auto wreck over the holidays and he wanted to be at home with his family, which had lost another member in recent years through an accident. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on January 19, 2012, 11:43:40 AM
Maryville Daily Times has a story about the MC coach search:

http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/Maryville-College-coach-finalists-visit-campus-id-019747
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on January 19, 2012, 11:06:25 PM
Here is the link to Burston leaving MC

http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/Scots-QB-transfers-to-Webber-id-019748

It's a tragedy about Melvin's sister, but the word was out before he left to go home that he was looking to leave.  Ierulli recruted him and he's from Ierulli's home town in Florida.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on January 20, 2012, 12:04:35 AM
Night owls can get it before it prints.

Column on MC coach search and Ierulli.
http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Choosing-the-next-Ierulli-an-epic-decision-for-MC-id-019784 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Choosing-the-next-Ierulli-an-epic-decision-for-MC-id-019784)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCSID on January 20, 2012, 04:57:28 PM
Maryville College picks Mike Rader to lead football program

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/sport/football/news/details/4218/ (http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/sport/football/news/details/4218/)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on January 20, 2012, 05:30:41 PM
Fellers
many of yall Scots appear to still be stewing over the loss of yall's other coach, and by all accounts he was a pretty good hand.

Yall got a phenom replacement. He is a real real fine feller, AUsome Offensive coach, wide recievers coach, play caller, and recruiter. I hate to see him go, but he will do well. He was raised right down the rode from murrvile, around science hill, and played ball at east tenn (before they dropped the program)
I hope yall will throw in and rally around him.

He recruited my son 5+ yrs ago, and the 'boy' worked with Coach Rader as a GA after graduating last year.

Great hire, i pray he helps yall open up a 'whup butt can' on everybody yall play, except Huntingdon :)
keep the faith and Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on January 20, 2012, 07:55:58 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on January 20, 2012, 12:04:35 AM
Night owls can get it before it prints.

Column on MC coach search and Ierulli.
http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Choosing-the-next-Ierulli-an-epic-decision-for-MC-id-019784 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/Choosing-the-next-Ierulli-an-epic-decision-for-MC-id-019784)


Great article on Coach I.  Many positive responses from MC alums from it. 

Good luck to the new HC.  It's going to be a rough ride.  You are walking into a hornets nest right now.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on January 20, 2012, 08:10:11 PM
http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/201201208ykrby
another look
keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCSID on January 20, 2012, 10:34:11 PM
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/jan/20/mike-rader-brings-offence-to-maryville-college/ (http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/jan/20/mike-rader-brings-offence-to-maryville-college/)

Knoxville News Sentinel article on Mike Rader bringing offense to Maryville College
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on January 23, 2012, 06:28:20 PM
Quote from: MCSID on January 20, 2012, 10:34:11 PM
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/jan/20/mike-rader-brings-offence-to-maryville-college/ (http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/jan/20/mike-rader-brings-offence-to-maryville-college/)

Knoxville News Sentinel article on Mike Rader bringing offense to Maryville College

The comments below the article explains the state of Maryville College football right now......

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/jan/20/mike-rader-brings-offence-to-maryville-college/

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MCSID on January 25, 2012, 04:07:51 PM
MC's Mike Rader Press Conference at: http://www.youtube.com/user/ScotsBroadcasting#p/u/1/hWFbDKjSuzU (http://www.youtube.com/user/ScotsBroadcasting#p/u/1/hWFbDKjSuzU)

Rader interview with Roger Hoover at: http://www.youtube.com/user/ScotsBroadcasting#p/u/0/YCSK-ZE-7I8 (http://www.youtube.com/user/ScotsBroadcasting#p/u/0/YCSK-ZE-7I8)

Go Scots!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on January 26, 2012, 07:11:19 PM
Two more articles:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2012/jan/20/mike-rader-brings-offence-to-maryville-college/



http://www.thedailytimes.com/Sports_News/story/Rader-introduced-as-MCs-28th-head-football-coach-id-019945


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on January 31, 2012, 08:21:28 PM
From Tuesday's Daily Times

Seems MC is missing football equipment and has filed a report treating it as a robbery.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/Local_News/story/Maryville-College-reports-16000-in-football-gear-missing-id-020146 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Local_News/story/Maryville-College-reports-16000-in-football-gear-missing-id-020146)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on February 06, 2012, 09:45:47 AM
NCWC has launched their new website. They included pictures of their proposed football stadium to be built on campus....WOW!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on February 07, 2012, 08:04:44 AM
I coach HS football in the Tampa Bay Area and yesterday our Head Coach received a Media Guide and note from Averett U. Football about them coming down to some recruiting fairs being held in FL this month.

We have a ton of talent that doesn't get to play football after HS because we don't have JC/CC or small college football in FL.  I think that Averett has been coming down for the past few years also.

Just information for the Boards during the offseason.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 16, 2012, 01:26:12 PM
http://www.usasouth.net/general/2011-12/12cnuwithdrawl

...and the other shoe drops...i thought that might happen - watch for cnu to head to the cac
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on February 16, 2012, 06:30:56 PM
This is huge news....I look for Southern Virginia University to take their place at some point.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: Allen C on February 16, 2012, 06:30:56 PM
This is huge news....I look for Southern Virginia University to take their place at some point.

And why not Huntingdon?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2012, 07:30:15 PM
QuoteChristopher Newport will continue to participate as a full member of the USA South Athletic Conference through the 2012-13 academic year. Thereafter, Christopher Newport will remain as an affiliate member in football for the 2013, 2014 and 2015 seasons.

The affiliate status for football thru 2015 for CNU tells me that the earliest that the braintrust in the Capital thinks that it can add football schools for an AQ will be 2016.

As it stands, Salisbury and Frostburg State or in the E8. Wesley is slugging along as an independent.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 17, 2012, 09:38:22 PM
Someone help me out. CNU moves to the CAC. No football in CAC yet. What regions are the other sports? I'm having a hard time figuring it out. And if the sports are in diff regions does it really matter? What about women's sports? I don't hear much about CAC women's teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 18, 2012, 12:43:17 AM
Regions don't really matter.

Salisbury and Mary Washington generally have dominated the non-basketball sports. Salisbury has won every softball title since 1996, every field hockey title but one since 1994. Mary Washington or Salisbury has won every tennis title in CAC history. Etc.

http://www.cacsports.com/information/recordbook/CHART_-_All-Time_CAC_Championships.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on February 18, 2012, 06:08:49 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2012, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: Allen C on February 16, 2012, 06:30:56 PM
This is huge news....I look for Southern Virginia University to take their place at some point.

And why not Huntingdon?

Had not really considered them....would make sense if they were interested...I only said SVU as I know they had begun the process of transitioning to DIII....Its a long process however, so it will be a while. Huntingdon would be a good fit.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on February 18, 2012, 09:07:22 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2012, 07:30:15 PM
QuoteChristopher Newport will continue to participate as a full member of the USA South Athletic Conference through the 2012-13 academic year. Thereafter, Christopher Newport will remain as an affiliate member in football for the 2013, 2014 and 2015 seasons.

The affiliate status for football thru 2015 for CNU tells me that the earliest that the braintrust in the Capital thinks that it can add football schools for an AQ will be 2016.

As it stands, Salisbury and Frostburg State or in the E8. Wesley is slugging along as an independent.

With Shenandoah joining the ODAC, you might be able to poach back Catholic. That gives you up to 5 with Wesley, Salisbury, Frostburg, and CNU. After that, I'm a bit stumped. Be a good, hard conference though. Maybe poach someone from the Centennial and someone from the MAC? Both those conferences are large enough to lose a member, but I'm not sure I'd want to join Salisbury and Wesley without making one massive commitment to football, and that's not mentioning Frostburg and CNU who have both been very respectable at times lately...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on February 18, 2012, 02:19:53 PM
Quote from: jknezek on February 18, 2012, 09:07:22 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2012, 07:30:15 PM
QuoteChristopher Newport will continue to participate as a full member of the USA South Athletic Conference through the 2012-13 academic year. Thereafter, Christopher Newport will remain as an affiliate member in football for the 2013, 2014 and 2015 seasons.

The affiliate status for football thru 2015 for CNU tells me that the earliest that the braintrust in the Capital thinks that it can add football schools for an AQ will be 2016.

As it stands, Salisbury and Frostburg State or in the E8. Wesley is slugging along as an independent.

With Shenandoah joining the ODAC, you might be able to poach back Catholic. That gives you up to 5 with Wesley, Salisbury, Frostburg, and CNU. After that, I'm a bit stumped. Be a good, hard conference though. Maybe poach someone from the Centennial and someone from the MAC? Both those conferences are large enough to lose a member, but I'm not sure I'd want to join Salisbury and Wesley without making one massive commitment to football, and that's not mentioning Frostburg and CNU who have both been very respectable at times lately...

  Might be able to get Stevenson, too, although they're scheduled to join the MAC in 2012 so it would be kind of a TCU-to-the-Big East situation if they went to the CAC. But they seem to be making a pretty strong commitment to football and are a great fit geographically, so it might be worth a look.
  A couple of the Centennial schools would be great fits based on proximity, but they all seem to be pretty firmly entrenched in the league and probably aren't looking to make a move. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 18, 2012, 05:58:36 PM
http://football-austria.com/home/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SUADC on February 19, 2012, 05:59:57 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on February 18, 2012, 02:19:53 PM
Quote from: jknezek on February 18, 2012, 09:07:22 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 16, 2012, 07:30:15 PM
QuoteChristopher Newport will continue to participate as a full member of the USA South Athletic Conference through the 2012-13 academic year. Thereafter, Christopher Newport will remain as an affiliate member in football for the 2013, 2014 and 2015 seasons.

The affiliate status for football thru 2015 for CNU tells me that the earliest that the braintrust in the Capital thinks that it can add football schools for an AQ will be 2016.

As it stands, Salisbury and Frostburg State or in the E8. Wesley is slugging along as an independent.

With Shenandoah joining the ODAC, you might be able to poach back Catholic. That gives you up to 5 with Wesley, Salisbury, Frostburg, and CNU. After that, I'm a bit stumped. Be a good, hard conference though. Maybe poach someone from the Centennial and someone from the MAC? Both those conferences are large enough to lose a member, but I'm not sure I'd want to join Salisbury and Wesley without making one massive commitment to football, and that's not mentioning Frostburg and CNU who have both been very respectable at times lately...

  Might be able to get Stevenson, too, although they're scheduled to join the MAC in 2012 so it would be kind of a TCU-to-the-Big East situation if they went to the CAC. But they seem to be making a pretty strong commitment to football and are a great fit geographically, so it might be worth a look.
  A couple of the Centennial schools would be great fits based on proximity, but they all seem to be pretty firmly entrenched in the league and probably aren't looking to make a move.

I would like to see Salisbury, Wesley, CNU, Stevenson, Catholic, Newport News Apprentice (Not NCAA Institution, but allowed), McDaniel, Johns Hopkins, Averett, and Galudet.

As for the last four, I know that with the acception of Johns Hopkins that will be four playoff teams within one conferences, McDaniel use to play Salisbury in scrimagges from year to year, Averett was a constant matchup for the former ACFC conference, and Galudet would be perfect, it is located in DC. So the CAC would be represented by teams from DC, Maryland, and Virginia. Out of that last four, there is only a need for two. Out of those four, Averett could join the CAC and be replaced by Huntingdon in the USA South. Galudet could stop traveling hundreds of miles every week to play a game. There could be a rivalry between Stevenson and Johns Hopkins for the pride of Baltiomore. Another Rivalry for Frostburg State with McDaniel to see who is the best in Western Maryland. Also, Catholic v. Galudet for the Nations Capitol Trophy. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on February 19, 2012, 02:22:25 PM
Narch,

Don't do it. I know you want to. But don't.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 20, 2012, 06:12:33 AM
http://football-austria.com/home/single-news
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 20, 2012, 08:14:41 AM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on February 20, 2012, 06:12:33 AM
http://football-austria.com/home/single-news
i think congratulations are in order for tunde ogun...i think - my ability to read is limited to the english language (which isn't always typed on these boards...look just a few posts down for proof), so i'm not sure, but tunde must have done something good, otherwise uncle keeping it real wouldn't be posting :)

my thoughts on cac football are this: frostburg, salisbury, wesley, stevenson, cnu, galludet, catholic - i know that some of those teams are in other conferences, but it isn't beyond the realm of possibility
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on February 20, 2012, 01:58:23 PM
http://www.danubedragons.org/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=304:the-nigerian-nightmare&Itemid=398
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on February 20, 2012, 03:55:10 PM
Just two cents on CNU from The Daily Times.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/CNU-has-the-drive-to-survive-id-020823 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/CNU-has-the-drive-to-survive-id-020823)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 20, 2012, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on February 20, 2012, 01:58:23 PM
http://www.danubedragons.org/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=304:the-nigerian-nightmare&Itemid=398
Der Österreichische Football Leauge ist nicht gerade der NFL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 21, 2012, 05:38:50 PM
Nicht schlecht (bad) Herr Narch. Ich verbrachte 5 Jahre dort und sahen viele amerikanische Theaterstück mit Deutschen. Kaput
ABNRGR
Fallschirmspringer

I checked my Deutch and I screwed this pooch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 22, 2012, 12:43:58 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on February 21, 2012, 05:38:50 PM
Nicht schlecht (bad) Herr Narch. Ich verbrachte 5 Jahre dort und sahen viele amerikanische Theaterstück mit Deutschen. Kaput
ABNRGR
Fallschirmspringer

I checked my Deutch and I screwed this pooch.
abnrgr - Ich kenne keine Deutsche, aber ich fand eine tolle übersetzung. Diese Leute aber nicht wissen, aber den Unterschied. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on February 22, 2012, 07:42:43 PM
Quote from: narch on February 22, 2012, 12:43:58 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on February 21, 2012, 05:38:50 PM
Nicht schlecht (bad) Herr Narch. Ich verbrachte 5 Jahre dort und sahen viele amerikanische Theaterstück mit Deutschen. Kaput
ABNRGR
Fallschirmspringer

I checked my Deutch and I screwed this pooch.
abnrgr - Ich kenne keine Deutsche, aber ich fand eine tolle übersetzung. Diese Leute aber nicht wissen, aber den Unterschied. :)

Ich spreche kein Deutsch auch nicht, aber bitte ... schon genug.   ;)
(Mit Dank an Google Translate.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 22, 2012, 09:21:40 PM
hsctiger74 - if you think it's getting old, why contribute :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 23, 2012, 09:24:27 AM
Narch
You tranlate good. I spoke enough during my 5 years running across Europe to get in trouble and get chicks to feel sorry for me. (when I was a LT)

One thing about the Germans. If you walk in like a jerk and start speaking english, they will scrug. You just insulted them. But if you walk in and try German and it is broken they stop you and say "can I help you" with a smile. 

Of course I dig Italiana bambinas or Raggazi. I  do miss Sicily. Sardinia was not too bad either
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on February 23, 2012, 09:27:03 AM
Thank you tiger. I said I checked it.  :) For goodness sake.And Narch is right it was old as soon I typed it. Bored with no football
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on February 23, 2012, 12:51:01 PM
Maryville's coaching staff complete:

http://www.maryvillecollege.edu/athletics/sport/general/news/details/4256/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 02, 2012, 10:42:24 PM
Quote from: batteredbard on February 20, 2012, 03:55:10 PM
Just two cents on CNU from The Daily Times.

http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/CNU-has-the-drive-to-survive-id-020823 (http://www.thedailytimes.com/Marcus_Fitzsimmons/story/CNU-has-the-drive-to-survive-id-020823)

Nice piece. I too am wondering how the conference will fare when CNU is gone. Who will everyone hate now?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 02, 2012, 11:03:24 PM
CNU schedule for 2012
http://cnusports.com/news/2012/2/29/FB_0229121814.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2012/2/29/FB_0229121814.aspx)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 05, 2012, 02:02:34 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 02, 2012, 11:03:24 PM
CNU schedule for 2012
http://cnusports.com/news/2012/2/29/FB_0229121814.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2012/2/29/FB_0229121814.aspx)
that's a challenging slate of non-conference games...i wonder if cnu will continue to schedule that type of non-conference competition when they are in a pool b conference?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 10, 2012, 09:58:56 AM
Quote from: narch on March 05, 2012, 02:02:34 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 02, 2012, 11:03:24 PM
CNU schedule for 2012
http://cnusports.com/news/2012/2/29/FB_0229121814.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2012/2/29/FB_0229121814.aspx)
that's a challenging slate of non-conference games...i wonder if cnu will continue to schedule that type of non-conference competition when they are in a pool b conference?

Good point. Two things to ponder. First, CNU will remain in USA South for a few years. I think that is probably an indication that the CAC is looking at becoming a football conference. Second, knowing Kelchner, he will continue to schedule the best he can. He once told me that at the D3 level when the players have to pay to go to school, he feels he owes it to the paying players to schedule the best teams he can. I agree. If someone is paying to go to school and is playing on your team, you are cheating them if you schedule your season with programs who are not very successful or committed. Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 10, 2012, 11:04:56 PM
In Pool B, once you have a head-to-head result against the competition, you have made a case that looks like the "conference" championship.

Huntingdon and Wesley especially...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on March 12, 2012, 11:51:44 AM
Former Maryville HC Tony Ierulli has joined the coaching staff at Carson-Newman College coaching outside linebackers.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 16, 2012, 01:38:14 PM
Carson Newman? Nice little town and alumni. He will like it there....

Not the same as a head coach but he' working....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 16, 2012, 02:01:08 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on March 16, 2012, 01:38:14 PM
Carson Newman? Nice little town and alumni. He will like it there....

Not the same as a head coach but he' working....
Carson-Newman was a national champ a time or two in their NAIA days - usually fair pretty well in DII as well.  I suspect they get some transfers from UT who are trying to resurrect their career after an injury or realizing they were #3 on the depth chart in Knoxville.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on March 18, 2012, 03:40:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6rhl-YxLWU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on March 18, 2012, 06:36:46 PM
KIR,

You finally hit a homerun on a post.  Great interview by Tunde.  Hope everyone gets a chance to watch it.  Outstanding personality.  Hope he has a great year in Europe.......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on March 18, 2012, 08:06:42 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 19, 2012, 05:23:00 PM
KIR - that was an oustanding interview...i'm rooting for tunde to tear up the afl!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 23, 2012, 01:22:49 AM
Abngr ,narch, still posting away. 

Even old age can't beat you two.

Eventually.  Until then.  Roll Pride

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 26, 2012, 01:50:11 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on March 23, 2012, 01:22:49 AM
Abngr ,narch, still posting away. 

Even old age can't beat you two.

Eventually.  Until then.  Roll Pride
moshergc9, what's your take on the coaching changes at GCP?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 27, 2012, 12:42:58 AM
My take.

When Kirby stepped down, Bill Young had the entire team pulling for him to be the next head coach.  That didn't happen and Coach Mitch came in and we had two defensive guys.  Mitch was awesome to play for but if I had been the AD I would have brought in an O guy or hand the reigns to Young at that point.

The last hire really killed me.  Zero national search and the program was handed over to a tenured teacher.  After they lost the good high school oc the offense was doomed.

This hire and Coach Young.  Makes sense.  GC's administration...I'll stop here so I dont end up like namath.  Investing in Young makes more sense and then any other hire.  I am shocked that the school pulled it off.

Young will have the kids competing.  No excuses.  He is a great defensive coach.  It will be interesting to see what type of offense they run.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 27, 2012, 09:36:17 AM
Please say they did not make the hire based only on "tenure". That would be a mitagating factor not the sole reason. I'll have to send Narch in. You know "leave the gun take the cannole"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 27, 2012, 10:42:05 AM
At Greensboro, I think they're still under a bit of financial pressure.  It doesn't surprise me there haven't been any national candidate searches.  It's easier (and less expensive) to fill the role from within.  Except for the Sept. 1 Soup Bowl, I hope the Pride have a good season.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on March 27, 2012, 01:02:24 PM
They hired young because he is one hellov a coach. 

Another interesting change is dethrone as AD.  Both those guys deserved the promotion.  Both are difficult jobs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 28, 2012, 02:18:03 PM
Concur with both Mosh and Hasa. I like to keep it in the familiy too. LT goes down the SSG moves up. Got it. It sounded like it was not based on talent. I stand corrected. It is cheaper and less change means less agaony.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 20, 2012, 12:20:36 PM
USA South Commish (http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/2012/04/18/1163624) anticipates the addition of Huntingdon and Covenant.

"William Peace University" is going co-ed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on April 22, 2012, 11:18:29 AM
http://sportreport.biz/2012/video_kornmesser_rangers_danube_dragons-3/63849

Tunde Ogun in Austria.

11 carries, 178 yards, 4 tds
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on April 22, 2012, 08:36:52 PM
http://vimeo.com/40785284
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ProudFightingScot on April 22, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Tunde is a man playing against boys....   Congrats KIR!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 23, 2012, 05:43:50 PM
Ogun is pretty smooth in front of the camera for his age. First impression; good kid that can score when someone gives a little room.

Maybe KIR was right.

I'm impressed
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 24, 2012, 09:18:20 PM
Tunde is very mature and composed. Beyond his years. Congrats! KIR - what's the website for all his stats this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on April 29, 2012, 11:59:42 PM
http://football-austria.com/statistik_files/2012/AFL/PRA-DRA.HTM#GAME.IND
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on April 30, 2012, 12:11:01 AM
http://afboe.at/fileadmin/user_upload_afboe/Statistik/2012/confldrs.htm#conf.wi2
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on May 10, 2012, 12:36:11 PM
hay

I know yall already knew/suspected but........
http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120510vijosw
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on May 10, 2012, 01:51:34 PM
there will be some new paint on all the helmets this year.....Bring the Hat!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on May 12, 2012, 10:12:59 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on May 10, 2012, 12:36:11 PM
hay

I know yall already knew/suspected but........
http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120510vijosw
keep the faith
This is great news to finally have a conference home. I heard the rumor several months ago but didn't want to get my hopes up until something official came out. Will be looking forward to building some new rivalries.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on May 13, 2012, 12:45:45 PM
Hawks88
GREAT NEWS
i pray yall are doing well. The boy's last day on the HC staff was last friday. He took a job with the Cobb Co Sherriff's Dept. Starts tomorrow (~18 mo of formal and on the job training) we are excited he is launched.

We hope to see yall at at least 2 and possibly more games this year

Lord willing we shall see yall then
keep the faith and GO HAWKS
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2012, 09:54:52 AM
Congratulations to Huntingdon (and Covenant).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SUADC on May 14, 2012, 10:23:55 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2012, 09:54:52 AM
Congratulations to Huntingdon (and Covenant).

Yes, Big Congrats. I believe everyteam should be able to fight for a legit conference championship and have a shot at an automatic bid, as well as an at-large.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 20, 2012, 01:27:14 PM
Hey Keeping It Real, I have an honest question for you that I just don't understand enough about the situation to get an answer that makes sense. Tunde obviously has the size and the speed. From the interviews he is also obviously intelligent. He seems to have his priorities in the right place. He has a great attitude. He loves football. What is missing to get invited to NFL camps as a free agent this year?  I don't get it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on May 27, 2012, 09:50:49 AM
Happy Memorial Day weekend.

If anyone wants to thank a former USAC player and current hero, feel free to drop major Lowe an email thanking him for his service.

He is representing Greensboro College Football in a forward operating base in the laghman Provence.  It's a very dangerous place and is he is definitely putting in some work.  Lowe is a coaching fanatic and still follows this conference with diligence.

Send your thanks,
Grady.lowe@us.army.mil

Subject line: USAC football
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on June 13, 2012, 09:03:57 AM
Hey CNU85..It's all politics. Need more film, need this, need that...Div 3 hurt him some..He's leading the league in rushing now. He has 2 more games left. Only played 8 and has 1102 yards.
Just waiting.. Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 05, 2012, 02:08:26 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on May 20, 2012, 01:27:14 PM
Hey Keeping It Real, I have an honest question for you that I just don't understand enough about the situation to get an answer that makes sense. Tunde obviously has the size and the speed. From the interviews he is also obviously intelligent. He seems to have his priorities in the right place. He has a great attitude. He loves football. What is missing to get invited to NFL camps as a free agent this year?  I don't get it.
i'm not an nfl personnel guy, but i listen to a LOT of nfl radio on sirius/xm - here is what is missing, and this is all he is missing

one (1) nfl gm who looks at tunde and thinks "he might be better than one (1) of the other running backs we're bringing to camp" - if one gm thinks that, he'll get the invite - i think "politics" has very little to do with this situation - nfl front office types are INCREDIBLY competitive, and they realize their jobs are INCREDIBLY tenuous - if they think that a guy like tunde ogun could help them more than a guy they have on their roster, they would give him a shot to prove it

they are probably also looking for film of him playing on kick return/kick coverage teams...and not as the return guy, since he doesn't have the kind of speed an nfl return man has (his range for nfl scouts was between 4.56 and 4.82 in the 40 with an official time of 4.64) - realistically, this is where a 4th or 5th rb will earn his keep - does tunde have that film? has he ever covered kicks?

there were undrafted guys from d1 programs in each of the last three drafts who have similar or better measurables (size, weight, speed, strength, short shuttle, etc.) and tape that shows them running by other guys who were drafted - if you're a d3 guy, you better have BETTER measurables than those d1 guys, because otherwise the personnel folks are going to discount what they see on film because of the competition level - tunde doesn't have that, and the league he is playing in now won't change that perception one bit

taking his cnu roots (and family ties for KIR) out of the equation, the question is this - is tunde ogun realistically perceived as one of the top 120 or so running backs in the world?...keep in mind that there are 120 (i think) division IA (FBS) football programs and another 120+ division 1AA (FCS) football programs each with guys who have similar measurables to those that tunde has (not to mention all the d2's)...tall order for even the best agent in the world
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on July 06, 2012, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: Allen C on February 16, 2012, 06:30:56 PM
This is huge news....I look for Southern Virginia University to take their place at some point.

http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2012/06/southern-virginia-to-join-cac

Or not.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 09, 2012, 01:49:41 PM
The Lion dude AKA Narch is spot on. His last points about the number of tailbacks in the country is sobering for Tunde. I guess he needs to get a shot via free agency
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 13, 2012, 07:44:16 AM
MIssed on that SVU prediction, but the CAC? I know its good for the conference to get closer to an AQ, but this is a right big...hell a giant step for SVU. Given the fact that the program is showing improvement, I, on one hand can see it being a positive for them, but Wesley, and Salisbury.....I think SVU will take their lumps...probably for a while. This will not be a cake walk at first for CNU either, but they will adapt and contend faster...much faster.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 13, 2012, 12:27:55 PM
Quote from: Allen C on July 13, 2012, 07:44:16 AM
MIssed on that SVU prediction, but the CAC? I know its good for the conference to get closer to an AQ, but this is a right big...hell a giant step for SVU. Given the fact that the program is showing improvement, I, on one hand can see it being a positive for them, but Wesley, and Salisbury.....I think SVU will take their lumps...probably for a while. This will not be a cake walk at first for CNU either, but they will adapt and contend faster...much faster.
Respectfully, I think that SVU probably was more concerned about the geographic area where they wanted to draw their student body than the success of the football team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 13, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 13, 2012, 12:27:55 PM

Respectfully, I think that SVU probably was more concerned about the geographic area where they wanted to draw their student body than the success of the football team.

BINGO!!! Spot on! Geographic student recruiting was one reason CNU made the jump.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 16, 2012, 02:57:26 PM
When does  practice begin? I bought my season tix! I'm ready!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 22, 2012, 09:32:10 PM
On or around 8-10-12
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 22, 2012, 09:38:44 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 13, 2012, 09:08:30 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 13, 2012, 12:27:55 PM

Respectfully, I think that SVU probably was more concerned about the geographic area where they wanted to draw their student body than the success of the football team.

BINGO!!! Spot on! Geographic student recruiting was one reason CNU made the jump.

I am not sure I understand the thought process behind this...You are saying they wanted to be in a conference that would attract a more intellectual student?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 22, 2012, 10:26:41 PM
geographical. CNU wants to attract NoVA students
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 23, 2012, 04:54:30 PM
85
As long it is NOT UVA players. What a group of dumb a##es that run that organization

But it gives me a chance to hammer at CNU

"Damn The Captains"  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 23, 2012, 05:31:00 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 22, 2012, 10:26:41 PM
geographical. CNU wants to attract NoVA students

I've always seen Hampton Roads talent as the cream of the crop in Virginia. Is CNU looking more to NoVa by choice or by necessity because of ODU's influence in the Tidewater region?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 23, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
I believe the reason is demographics of the students in that area. there are many aspects involved. one of which is distance. cnu is far enough away for students to "go away to college". parents are more willing to pay that room and board. it is difficult to recruit in the hampton roads area on that basis. also, cnu requires all students to live on campus through their junior year. i can speak as a parent of a local student....not many kids in newport news or hampton really consider cnu because they just want to get away. i live 2 miles from campus and at times it was difficult paying my daughter's room and board to live just down the street. but i believe in the importance of her living on campus and felt the experience she obtained was worth the money. not everyone agrees with that and even fewer can afford that choice.

honestly, i do not believe cnu considers odu as competition for attracting students. different mission, different students. i have spoken with Trible and i know he considers W&M and UVA as the target! For state schools, the top 3 avg SAT scores for incoming freshman are: 1. W&M 2. UVA 3. CNU.

Also Nova demographics indicate a higher income per household. With the requirement of living on campus for 3 years and one of the highest total cost (tuition, fees, room and board = $22k+) of state schools, you have to recruit where the money is located.

i rambled - but NoVa is a target area due to the demographics (household income, quality of student, and distance from CNU).

hope this helped.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 23, 2012, 10:46:09 PM
and more to Ryan's question about ODU.....if you are talking talent of football players, there is no comparison or competition for the same athletes. ODU is now a BCS school in Conference USA. Any footballer in that caliber of talent is way above the D3 non-scholarship world. That would be similar to saying Syracuse impacts SUNY-Brockport recruiting. Or Boston College impacting Maine Maritime.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 24, 2012, 07:16:33 AM
I'm admittedly stuck in the mindset of the ODU I knew 5+ years ago when I lived in that area. Back then, the enthusiasm was drab, there were lots of questions about the durability of the program, and the school (at least initially) didn't even use all of its available football scholarships, if I remember right. It wasn't clear of whether they were truly invested in being a D-I caliber school, or if they were just D-I by default of being in that level for other sports. It sounds as if they've changed their mindset and made football a priority among athletics.

The need to "get away" from home to go to school is one I understand. Also I understand that NoVa has higher incomes, but at $22K, CNU is still cheaper than most or all private schools in the state. But we don't see the private institutions flocking to NoVa for their recruiting needs. I guess that I'm surprised to hear you say that the need to find students who can afford CNU is one of the reasons the school is looking toward the money of NoVa.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 24, 2012, 10:19:34 PM
I bet many schools in VA look at the noVa demographics. Not just CNU. There are lots of college bound kids up there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 24, 2012, 10:24:38 PM
Also look at enrollment figures of the private schools and the size of their endowments. It is much easier to find 1200 students than 5000. And even more easier when your endowment makes CNU's endowment look like pocket change.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 25, 2012, 05:58:09 AM
I cant back it up, but I have often thought Ferrum finds a lot of players and students from Nova, for their ability to afford tuition.
In a quick check of the 2011 roster, Ferrum had 20 players from the DC, 703 area. Probably a half dozen more from Maryland suburbs, and about 6-8 from the 757. That is @ 20% of the team from Nova.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on July 25, 2012, 10:02:40 AM
Quote from: Allen C on July 25, 2012, 05:58:09 AM
I cant back it up, but I have often thought Ferrum finds a lot of players and students from Nova, for their ability to afford tuition.
In a quick check of the 2011 roster, Ferrum had 20 players from the DC, 703 area. Probably a half dozen more from Maryland suburbs, and about 6-8 from the 757. That is @ 20% of the team from Nova.

Allen: I could have miscounted, but from that same roster, I count only eight players from Northern Virginia. One more from D.C. itself, and just three from Maryland suburbs to D.C.

For a team that had more than 110 players, barely 10 percent came from the D.C. area. I would be surprised if the Panthers consider that region critical recruiting turf. Assuming Chris Warren is back on the staff this year, his D.C. ties could help change that, but until then....

CNU85, good point re: the comparative size of CNU's endowment. That's one angle I didn't consider.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wahama on July 25, 2012, 06:55:42 PM
Interview with NC Wesleyan DB/Return Man Dwayne Hollis

http://www.bsncollege.com/videos/1557/867/beyond-the-sidelines-interview-w
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 25, 2012, 09:50:59 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 24, 2012, 10:24:38 PM
Also look at enrollment figures of the private schools and the size of their endowments. It is much easier to find 1200 students than 5000. And even more easier when your endowment makes CNU's endowment look like pocket change.
comparing the endowment at a public institution and a private institution is comparing apples to oranges unless you count the state dollars that have been provided to the public over the years - private colleges rely on endowment earnings to subsidize some portion of operating expenses (including financial aid to offset the cost differential between public and private institutions)

personally, i think it would be easier to find 5000 students at a school that costs $22K (and has a small endowment which is mostly geared toward awarding financial aid) than it would be to find 1200 students at a school that costs $40+K - the fact is, there are simply a lot more people who have the means to afford the lower cost school
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 26, 2012, 07:33:58 AM
Good points Narch. And if we had the time and the data, I'm sure we could put together a nice thesis for a PhD on the topic. There are way too many things to consider on this topic in order to get down to an apples to apples basis. From my perspective, I have seen kids set on CNU when another private school whips out their large endowment and the kid gets a free ride. And for that student and his family, what an awesome deal!! CNU can't compete when that happens. And I'm not even talking athletes. Another disadvantage CNU has with the small endowment is that they are competing with UVA and W&M for students.  UVA has an endowment of $5billion. So they have the benefit, like you said, of being able to use that endowment less for operating expenses and more on scholarships and financial aid. Similarly, once a private school's endowment reaches a certain level then they can start to bite into the public school's recruiting efforts by offsetting costs. I know of people who sent their kids to private schools in VA and paid the full $43k minus some very minor token aid. I can also tell you the names of kids playing sports at ODAC schools because they got a free ride off the endowment. So, there are benefits of both private and public schools. I view this long debated topic as the equivalent to Ford vs Chevy. People will have their views and not be wrong. Also, I come from the public school world and am heavily involved in it, so I am more knowledgeable about it than you are. At the same time, you have much more knowledge about how private schools function than I will ever know. The good aspect of all of this is that we can have an open dialogue. At least, I enjoy it.

Ryan and Allen it would be interesting to see if the football team demographics are representative of the entire college.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 26, 2012, 07:41:59 AM
I just realized this board is getting too deep! I like the old days!!  Hey Narch- my football team can beat your football team!! 

Thanks- I feel better!! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 26, 2012, 05:48:05 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 23, 2012, 10:46:09 PM
and more to Ryan's question about ODU.....if you are talking talent of football players, there is no comparison or competition for the same athletes. ODU is now a BCS school in Conference USA. Any footballer in that caliber of talent is way above the D3 non-scholarship world. That would be similar to saying Syracuse impacts SUNY-Brockport recruiting. Or Boston College impacting Maine Maritime.

When they started, however, they were a FCS school. They will indeed be FBS -- in 2013. It's not like they will be Syracuse or Boston College, however. That's a bit optimistic.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 26, 2012, 05:58:58 PM
That s true, Pat.  I way over rated ODU. They were a good FCS school, and in a short time. FBS is a different story altogether.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 29, 2012, 11:34:49 PM
Allen: I could have miscounted, but from that same roster, I count only eight players from Northern Virginia. One more from D.C. itself, and just three from Maryland suburbs to D.C.

Ryan...I still am coming up with 20-21 players from Northern Va. Not counting DC, or Md. Harper is from Northern Va., and I would think that he would be inclined to work that area.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 30, 2012, 01:47:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 26, 2012, 07:41:59 AM
I just realized this board is getting too deep! I like the old days!!  Hey Narch- my football team can beat your football team!! 

Thanks- I feel better!! ;D
in a few years, the only way they'll be playing is in the playoffs - if that happens, i won't care for the first year or two since i just want mu to get there (the playoffs) at this point (once they get there for a few years i'll get greedy and start expecting playoff wins...baby steps :))
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 30, 2012, 01:58:17 PM
Narch, taking any road trips with the Monarchs this season?  In particular, MU vs GCQ under the lights in Greensboro on Sept. 8 ...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on July 30, 2012, 02:05:27 PM
USAC Media Day: CNU picked to win the football title (again).


Rank   Institution (1st Place Votes)   Pts.
1.    Christopher Newport (6)    48
2.    Ferrum (2)    43
3.    N.C. Wesleyan    29
4.    LaGrange    27
5.    Averett    26
6.    Methodist    23
7.    Maryville    21
8.    Greensboro    7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 31, 2012, 06:22:32 PM
Can someone explain how the poll  points are arrived at...I assume that a first place vote is worth 8, 2nd plce 7 etc...maybe I am completely off. Please outline how the voting process and points work.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 31, 2012, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: Allen C on July 31, 2012, 06:22:32 PM
Can someone explain how the poll  points are arrived at...I assume that a first place vote is worth 8, 2nd plce 7 etc...maybe I am completely off. Please outline how the voting process and points work.
i think it's 7 for first, 6 for second...etc. since you can't vote for your own team
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on August 01, 2012, 08:40:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9va8naAOFc

For your enjoyment Narch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 01, 2012, 01:45:40 PM
Quote from: KEEPING IT REAL on August 01, 2012, 08:40:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9va8naAOFc

For your enjoyment Narch.
thanks for 9:09 of pure football enjoyment! the kid has moves on moves and power on power...a total beast

if i was paid to evaluate talent for an nfl team, i'd look at this film and say "that kid can dominate inferior competition!"...let's face it, the austrian football league is probably equivalent to a mid to upper level d3 conference

then i'd ask myself "could my 5th best rb do the same?" and i'd probably answer "yes...and he plays on every special team and knows our system and is every bit as fast, every bit as strong, every bit as agile and 2 years younger than this guy"

tunde should continue to pursue the dream until his health and/or finances no longer allow him to do so, though, 'cause i love watching him run over, through and around guys and always have (except when those guys were wearing green & gold)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 01, 2012, 02:08:57 PM
Quote from: narch on July 31, 2012, 10:20:14 PM
Quote from: Allen C on July 31, 2012, 06:22:32 PM
Can someone explain how the poll  points are arrived at...I assume that a first place vote is worth 8, 2nd plce 7 etc...maybe I am completely off. Please outline how the voting process and points work.
i think it's 7 for first, 6 for second...etc. since you can't vote for your own team
Narch is correct.  CNU got six votes for 1st (6 x 7 = 42) and one vote for second (1 X 6) for 48 points.  Since you can't vote for your own team, the total points should be the sum of 1-7 (28) x 8 coaches = 224 (48 + 43 +29 + 27 + 26 + 23 + 21 + 7). 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 01, 2012, 09:52:17 PM
just saw that the rocket will be inducted in the mu hall of fame...congrats!

http://www.mumonarchs.com/news/2012/7/31/GEN_0731120247.aspx

now that the rocket is in, i'm starting a campaign for admiralpapi :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 09, 2012, 04:47:24 AM
Just wondering....Is this year going to be appreciably different, or are we looking at the same old thing.....Some good games, but in the end, CNU takes the title? Is there anyway there could be a new representative in the playoffs? Judging by the USA South Coaches poll, it looks loke that is the expectation. What team in the conference can challenge CNU?

Of course I think Ferrum will be good, but they have lost a lot on offense, starting with Mayo. They have had a decent recruiting year, but they likely will be about the same as last year. Who else can challenge?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 09, 2012, 04:45:48 PM
I'm so glad we don't have to face Mayo again. The guy was good!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 09, 2012, 04:59:46 PM
Quote from: Allen C on August 09, 2012, 04:47:24 AM
Just wondering....Is this year going to be appreciably different, or are we looking at the same old thing.....

Not sure yet, but I'll let you know once I finish my USA South writeups for Kickoff 2012.

Oh yeah, and buy Kickoff (http://www.d3football.com/notables/2012/07/get-kickoff-2012)! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 09, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
I will buy it...no doubt... Will you still be covering the Mid Atlantic? I hope so. How's the baby?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 09, 2012, 10:16:54 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 09, 2012, 04:45:48 PM
I'm so glad we don't have to face Mayo again. The guy was good!

Sorry to see Mayo go, but his replacement is quite good. (Little known fact) I work at CNU...(hard to believe I bet), and I worked this spring with Mike King who played last year for the Captains. When I told him who was replacing Mayo...Tim Reynolds, he paused for a second, and then he asked where did he go to high school? I said Yorktown High School in Arlington. He immediatly said Oh Yeah...I know EXACTLY who he is...he is good. Very Fast!

He did not see a lot of playing time last year, but he did well when he was in there. I doubt he has the arm strength or the moves that Mayo had, but I understand he is right speedy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ryan Tipps on August 09, 2012, 10:19:34 PM
Quote from: Allen C on August 09, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
I will buy it...no doubt... Will you still be covering the Mid Atlantic? I hope so. How's the baby?

No, I'm not going to be writing a weekly column this fall. Baby + grad school makes that tougher than I should probably take on. However, I am going to be editing the new columnist (you won't be disappointed with him!), so I'll still have my ear to the ground for the Mid-Atlantic.

For Kickoff, I'm doing the USA South team capsules (I've usually done ODAC's in the past) and USAC feature story, which is on new-to-the-conference LaGrange. I'll also still be doing the Friday Triple Take predictions on the blog, which are always fun.

Re: the baby. He's doing very well. Since I work nights, I get to be home during the days with him and playing with him while his mom only sees him in the early evening at bedtime. So I'm officially the "fun parent"! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 14, 2012, 04:16:23 PM
What you Panthers got this year Mr Allen C?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 17, 2012, 09:14:55 PM
Allen,

check your cnu.edu email

and you are a Captain - bahahahahaha!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 20, 2012, 08:35:27 PM

Some of you may already know about this. I thought I would pass along the very sad news about former CNU basketball coach and AD...CJ Woollum. I made sure I had permission from CNU before posting this. I am also posting a link for anyone who wishes to sign his guestbook. From the website Caringbridge.com I quote.....

"On July 23rd doctors found a tumor in CJ's brain. It was later identified as glioblastom​​a multiforme - an aggressive type of brain cancer. Surgery was completed on July 27th to remove the bulk of the tumor." A subsequent journal post indicates that CJ is now in rehab.

There is not enough room on this board to post all the accomplishments of Coach Woollum. Over 500 wins in 26 seasons. Numerous All-Americans. A player drafted by the NBA. Golf Coach. Mentor to the entire CNU Athletic department. CNU athletics grew to national recognition in just about every sport under his guidance.

Please take a moment to pray for Coach Woollum and his family!

http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/cjwoollum
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 21, 2012, 01:36:14 PM
'85 - tough news for the cnu family, as well as the usasac - by elevating the cnu athletic program, coach woolum has served the conference well - my thoughts are with he, his family and the entire cnu family as he battles for his life
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 21, 2012, 02:01:13 PM
on a less serious and much less important note, i'm hearing good things from monarch camp...i am tempering my expectations because...well...i've heard good things out of camp before and been disappointed...but it appears that the qb position is sorting itself out and reber is in drivers seat right now - there is a new rb who has the kind of speed that the monarchs have been missing at that position for the last few years...could be a nice compliment to flanagan...maybe our own version of thunder and lightning - as expected, the wr corps is deep and talented, as well - what happens up front could tell the story of the season for mu...if the line can develop and gel, there are weapons on the offense

on the defensive side, i'm hearing that one of the returning DL has come back hungry and ready to play, and the LB corps is solid with returners and newcomers...there is a new DL/LB who has folks excited, as well - i haven't heard much about the db's, but there is some returning talent there

going into the season, kicking jobs were up in the air, and i haven't rec'd an update on the special teams

i haven't seen the team with my own eyes yet (and probably won't until sept. 1), but i'm cautiously optimistic - if these improvements are legit and with a little luck, this could be a 5 or 6 win season for the green & gold - i'd sure be happy with that type of progress vs. the last few years...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 21, 2012, 10:14:59 PM
Quote from: narch on August 21, 2012, 01:36:14 PM
'85 - tough news for the cnu family, as well as the usasac - by elevating the cnu athletic program, coach woolum has served the conference well - my thoughts are with he, his family and the entire cnu family as he battles for his life

Thanks Narch. I noticed in his guest book on that website, a very thoughtful post from coach David Smith at MU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 22, 2012, 09:29:37 PM
here is an article (with pictures) for those who are interested....http://fayobserver.com/articles/2012/08/21/1196148
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 24, 2012, 04:31:45 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on August 14, 2012, 04:16:23 PM
What you Panthers got this year Mr Allen C?

Strong in places, but lost a lotof players. D should be good, but O backfield and line are young, and inexperienced.

Overall, I think they will get stronger as rhe season goes on.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on August 24, 2012, 04:36:29 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 17, 2012, 09:14:55 PM
Allen,

check your cnu.edu email

and you are a Captain - bahahahahaha!!


Not a Captain, just a State Employee.....Happy to have a job in a tough economy. It is a really nice place to work, but make no mistake about it, I will be sitting on the Ferrum side on Oct. 6th. ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on August 26, 2012, 04:08:31 PM
ANYONE INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THE 2012 TOP 25 FAN POLL (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7065.msg1434525#msg1434525):
Please send me a PM with your ballot. I'd like to get a preseason poll up by Thursday night.

During the season ballots shall be due by Tuesdays so I can get them up Tuesday night.

Remember, this is just fun and we aren't part of the BCS Formula... yet ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 26, 2012, 04:53:21 PM
Where is everyone????? Are you ready for some football?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on August 26, 2012, 08:40:24 PM
Hey CNU, how are you doing?  What does it look like for your team.  Tough first game with Salisbury.  Will be looking forward to what you think since Wesley gets them the next week.  Good luck this season and enjoy the games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SUADC on August 27, 2012, 10:30:18 AM
It appears that there is going to be a lot of rain this upcoming week and weekend. Big advantage for CNU. I believe with the exception of last year, CNU has won every rain game against Salisbury, the odds are in your favor.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 27, 2012, 01:02:56 PM
Wesleydad,

Doing well. Not real sure about the team this year, other than what I have been reading. I know they went up Friday to Bridgewater for a scrimmage but 5 inches of rain cancelled it.....they rode 3 hours up and 3 hours back for nothing. I bet that was a fun bus ride. I've heard we have tons of running backs and of course 3 QB who all started last year. Should be a good fight for that position. The D is always good. Their 2 starting ILB are transfers from Richmond and Towson. I think the O Line is the least experienced. But I believe they have size. We will have to see how it plays out. I was just looking at last year's results and my stomach became ill. Should never have lost to Stevenson. We had Salisbury game in hand and they took it away from us. And believe it or not, other than about 50 seconds of the Kean game, we were in it and actually controlled it. I think they scored 3 times in that last 50 seconds of the first half....something like that. I will give you a goood report of the game this week. Salsibury is always good. I think we are 2-7 against them?? something like that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 27, 2012, 01:05:49 PM
Quote from: SUADC on August 27, 2012, 10:30:18 AM
It appears that there is going to be a lot of rain this upcoming week and weekend. Big advantage for CNU. I believe with the exception of last year, CNU has won every rain game against Salisbury, the odds are in your favor.

Then I hope it rains. Wish we played this past weekend. Newport News flooded. I have family members who had 3 inches of water inside their cars. Not fun! I hope it dries out and we have a decent game Saturday. I hope you guys go undefeated....after Saturday (Oops...Wesleydad is now mad at me! bahaha!)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 27, 2012, 01:15:57 PM
Oh btw - I hate the triple option!!

;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SUADC on August 28, 2012, 11:48:40 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 27, 2012, 01:15:57 PM
Oh btw - I hate the triple option!!

;D

Might not hate, but there is a thin line between love and hate. However, if it works, why stop?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on August 29, 2012, 03:01:47 PM
Looking forward to see how Huntingdon does against Murrville...now coached by former Hawk reciever and co-OC for the Hawks, Mike Rader (great guy) and former Huntingdon team captain and now OL coach for Murrville, Philip Bailey (another fine young man)

I hope Coach Turk has some tricks that those 2 have not seen 8-)
keep the faith
and Go Hawks
Title: 16th Annual Soup Bowl
Post by: hasanova on August 31, 2012, 11:57:06 AM
Greensboro at Guilford tomorrow night at 7 pm in the 16th Annual Soup Bowl between these intracity rivals.  Admission is free if you bring three or more cans of nonperishable food as a contribution to the local food bank.  Give to the college of your choice as there's also a friendly competition on this front between the two schools.

Hope everyone plays their best with good sportsmanship and no injuries.  Oh yeah, Go Quakers!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on August 31, 2012, 12:54:23 PM
Go Monarchs!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 31, 2012, 02:01:04 PM
Quote from: rocket on August 31, 2012, 12:54:23 PM
Go Monarchs!!!
ditto...and congrats on the induction to the mu hof...well deserved

will i see you in attendance tomorrow?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rocket on September 01, 2012, 10:37:33 AM
Thanks Narch! I'll miss the game today but I'll catch a few this year. The Navy is keeping me busy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Goose13 on September 01, 2012, 10:40:03 AM
Game day is finally here. I'm excited to follow all of the action in the USA South this year. I hope the Captains and the rest of the conference are ready to play and the coaches have all done their jobs to prepare these young men for battle on the gridiron. Good luck to everyone today. Represent the conference proud!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 01, 2012, 08:12:44 PM
Crazy day in Montgomery as Huntingdon beats Maryville 49-33. Always nice to score 16 in the last 33 seconds to make it look a lot less tense than it was. It will be interesting to see whether Coach Rader has that Maryville offense quickly ready to make some noise in the USAC this season or our defense needs a lot of work to be ready for BSC next week or something in between. Our D-line looked strong as expected for the most part but over all I didn't think we tackled well. We also had several badly blown coverages where we lucked up and the receiver was overthrown. I do think MC will score enough to make some people nervous in conference play as the season goes on.

Good luck to Coach Rader the rest of the way.

Go Hawks!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 01, 2012, 08:55:24 PM
the monarchs were on the short end of a 23-6 score vs. the w&j presidents today, but i'm not sure what the take-away is...w&j is clearly the most historically significant team that has ever played in monarch stadium and mu was able to play them fairly close - there were a few plays that really made a difference in this game...mu was down 10-0 at the half, but had the ball just inside of the 1 yard line trying to attempt a fg as time ran out - they started the second half and were driving the ball, when vaughn cross had the ball stripped and returned 60+ yards to the MU 7 and w&j punched it in - two plays that really turned the game around...i'm not sure if the monarchs could have won the game, but had they been able to punch it in before half, and score on the first drive of the second half, the game may have been very different

i saw some things i really liked...reber is a tough little dude and a great leader - the wr's are talented, but need to be more consistent - and i saw some things i didn't like...too many penalties, inconsistent play from the o-line, soft coverages that gave w&j easy first downs

i'm not sure mu will play anyone as good as w&j this season...and they were able to compete - the qb/wr combo of #6 to #15 was as good as mu has probably ever seen, yet mu was able to keep them from any big plays - in all, a solid first game that could have potentially been very different with a few plays going the monarchs way
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 01, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
CNU falls to #7 Salisbury 40-16. It was 13-7 at the half. And with about 4 minutes left in third it was 20-16. Then the wheels fell off the bus. Suddenly CNU wasn't making plays. Salisbury is way too good and took advantage of it and just destroyed CNU in the last 19 minutes. I can't wait to see the stat details. CNU did manage over 300 yards. SU had over 500.

Wesleydad-  if you can take an early lead you have good chance. And have your offense pick on SU DB #22. Rudy Rudolph had a good game. Noel dropped a few passes.

Listened to coach on radio after the game. Gonna be a harsh week of practice. He took full blame for not getting his team ready to play and promised it will not happen again. Rutrow!!

Congrats to SU. A very good team. I still hate the triple option. And I'm Italian like the SU tailback. Why am I slow???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on September 02, 2012, 10:42:32 PM
Full agreement with '85 on the game analysis.

The CNU defense played well at the end of the 2nd half, denying about 10 tries at the endzone over a 1-minute period due to some partial gains and a number of penalties on both sides, ending in a missed FG.  I felt like we had the momentum at the break.  CNU came out of halftime, forced a SU punt, and then made a long play (70 yards, ~60 after the catch) to tie the game.

Then, as '85 said, the wheels fell off.

SU scored again, taking the lead.  CNU drove to respond and got close, but were forced to take a FG instead.  The next drive took only about 1:12 for the Gulls to find the endzone again.  We just couldn't stop anything on that drive, and I think it took a lot out of us emotionally.  A lot of the guys on the sidelines were hanging their heads or no longer really paying attention.  The crowd (which had been great in the 1st half) started leaving pretty steadily after the end of the 3rd.

That drive, where SU scored with about 3:20 left in the 3rd to go up 27-16, was the turning point in the game where SU took control and never looked back.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on September 03, 2012, 08:57:07 PM
At our game the other day people were saying to expect 15,000 people at the HSC/CNU game this weekend. Should be fun.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 03, 2012, 09:14:38 PM
That would be interesting -- highest recorded attendance at a D3-D3 game is just short of that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 04, 2012, 08:16:17 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on September 03, 2012, 08:57:07 PM
At our game the other day people were saying to expect 15,000 people at the HSC/CNU game this weekend. Should be fun.
That would be awesome!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on September 04, 2012, 10:12:32 AM
does CNU travel well ? If not, there will be around 7,000 people in attendance.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SUADC on September 04, 2012, 01:56:47 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 01, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
CNU falls to #7 Salisbury 40-16. It was 13-7 at the half. And with about 4 minutes left in third it was 20-16. Then the wheels fell off the bus. Suddenly CNU wasn't making plays. Salisbury is way too good and took advantage of it and just destroyed CNU in the last 19 minutes. I can't wait to see the stat details. CNU did manage over 300 yards. SU had over 500.

Wesleydad-  if you can take an early lead you have good chance. And have your offense pick on SU DB #22. Rudy Rudolph had a good game. Noel dropped a few passes.

Listened to coach on radio after the game. Gonna be a harsh week of practice. He took full blame for not getting his team ready to play and promised it will not happen again. Rutrow!!

Congrats to SU. A very good team. I still hate the triple option. And I'm Italian like the SU tailback. Why am I slow???

I think both teams fought hard for most of the game. As you mentioned, I believe late in the third, that's where CNU lost its will. I believe the game, which is becoming somewhat of a rivalry was good for both teams. I think Salisbury is going to improve and be way better on defense going forward. Regarding #22, I believe it was just first game jitters and playing against CNU definitely will prepare him for next week. Overall, I think that Salisbury has a good chance next week. We will see how things go...Again, good game by both teams last week and good luck to CNU in there match-up against HSC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 08, 2012, 11:58:02 AM
Go Bishops!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 08, 2012, 05:11:13 PM
Next week at LaGrange, hopefully Huntingdon can rebound from the loss to B Southern. It went to the final play in this 45-38 game.
Keep the faith.and Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: footballfan413 on September 08, 2012, 05:17:58 PM
To fans of D-3 football everywhere.  I am honored to have been asked to spread the word regarding a new cancer fund that has been established to help Tom Pattison, UW-W sports broadcaster and founder of www.warhawkfootball.com    I and my family know, all to well, how a cancer diagnosis can be devastating to a families daily lives and finances. Please, consider making even the smallest donation to Tom.

The following is an open letter by Retired UW-W Coach Bob Berezowitz:

Team Tom Cancer Fund Drive established

Once a Warhawk, always a Warhawk are the often spoken words by Tom Pattison, longtime "voice" of the Warhawks. Over the many years of broadcasting UW-Whitewater football, basketball and baseball games on KOOL 106.5 (and prior to that (940 WFAW), Tom has "bled purple" during each one of his broadcasts.

Unfortunately, on May 28, 2012 Tom was diagnosed with advanced stage 2 colon cancer. He underwent colorectal cancer surgery in Fort Atkinson and in the process has developed astronomical hospital and medical bills.

Tom has already gone through the first phase of radiation treatment at the UW Cancer Clinic along with chemotherapy with phase two starting later this month.

Tom has given his heart and soul to Warhawk athletics over his 25 years of living here in southern Wisconsin. He served six years as the president of the UW-Whitewater Quarterback Club and still serves on the club's board of directors.

In 2003 Tom founded Warhawkfootball.com where Warhawk fans, players, former players and parents have been able to view up-to-date Warhawk football news and information 365 days a year. Nearly 1.5 million visitors have clicked onto the Website over the years.

The Website that has been funded entirely by Tom has been a popular "voice" for Warhawk football fans not only locally but around the world.

Well now Tom needs your assistance in his battle with cancer.

With the help and leadership of UW-Whitewater Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Dr. Paul Plinke and former Warhawk football coach Bob Berezowitz and KOOL 106.5 Radio a team has been set up to lead a campaign to raise funds for Tom.

The "Team Tom Cancer Fund" has been established through Commercial Bank in Whitewater and is now accepting donations.

Donations may be sent to: Team Tom Cancer Fund, c/o Commercial Bank, 200 South Freemont St. Whitewater, WI 53190

The fund raising drive will also include Tom Pattison Day at Perkins Stadium on Oct. 6, 2012. More details will be announced shortly.

"I have known Tom for many years while coaching and now in retirement," Berezowitz said. "There is not another person who has given more of himself to help promote UW-Whitewater football. He is always writing articles for both past and present players that are published on his Website.

It is now our turn to say "thank you" for his efforts by considering making a donation to the to assist Tom in his time of need.

Go Warhawks,
Bob Berezowitz
UW-Whitewater Football Coach/Retired
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 08, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
Just watched the CNU thrashing at the hands of HSC. HSC totally dominated. The final game stats look close but only because HSC played with class and called the dogs off after going up 42-0. CNU closes it to 42-20. But the game was never in doubt from the first snap.

And having been to HSC now, I really enjoyed your facilities. However, I must say you guys must not offer math classes. No way were there 7,000 people there. Not possible!! That stadium would be packed, every seat taken and people standing 2 deep around the roped sidelines. The home stands were barely half full. I say 3,000 tops with another 500 tailgating during the game. HSC stadium is much smaller than CNU and we pack the place and official attendance is about 4,500. HSC should sell tickets or hand them out and count.

But oh well, the Bly thing that really matters is that the CNU players are having a horrible bust ride home.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hoopstermom on September 08, 2012, 07:29:14 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 08, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
No way were there 7,000 people there. Not possible!!

Box score http://www.hscathletics.com/sports/fball/2012-13/boxscores/20120908_bfj2.xml (http://www.hscathletics.com/sports/fball/2012-13/boxscores/20120908_bfj2.xml) shows 7606 in attendance.  Doesn't indicate if a student or a math professor keeps the official count though.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on September 08, 2012, 08:44:49 PM
CNU really brought support for their team to HSC today.  It was really a treat to see such an impressive marching band perform.  The support for the team reflected well on the strength of the program.  CNU is always a class act and those characteristics were on dispay today by the football team and fans.  Good luck the rest of the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 08, 2012, 10:13:37 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 08, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
CNU players are having a horrible bust ride home.
is there such a thing :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 08, 2012, 10:32:05 PM
mu gets a 34-21 win over gcq...game wasn't really as close as the score...gcq scores twice late after being down 34-7 - the running game for mu racked up 170+ yards and the monarchs only threw it 12 times - ferrum gets the only other usasac win

i saw that w&j was up for most of the game vs. #9 SJF, before losing 28-24...not sure if that means anything for the monarchs, though
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2012, 09:21:10 AM
Quote from: narch on September 08, 2012, 10:13:37 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 08, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
CNU players are having a horrible bust ride home.
is there such a thing :)

Bahahahahaha.  I'm learning to double check myself when using the iPad!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2012, 09:23:38 AM
Quote from: hoopstermom on September 08, 2012, 07:29:14 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 08, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
No way were there 7,000 people there. Not possible!!

Box score http://www.hscathletics.com/sports/fball/2012-13/boxscores/20120908_bfj2.xml (http://www.hscathletics.com/sports/fball/2012-13/boxscores/20120908_bfj2.xml) shows 7606 in attendance.  Doesn't indicate if a student or a math professor keeps the official count though.

I would like to know how they came up with the number 7,606. There is no gate and there are no tickets. People can walk in and out of stadium anyway they feel like it. I think it was great. But if you're gonna estimate then just say 7500. I hope a student isn't making up the number. Might be an honor code violation. Bahahahahaha.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2012, 09:29:17 AM
Quote from: HSC85 on September 08, 2012, 08:44:49 PM
CNU really brought support for their team to HSC today.  It was really a treat to see such an impressive marching band perform.  The support for the team reflected well on the strength of the program.  CNU is always a class act and those characteristics were on dispay today by the football team and fans.  Good luck the rest of the season.

Thanks for the comments. CNU fans are really looking forward to this 4 year series. We treated it like a rivalry even though it was first matchup ever. Let me know if you come to CNU next year and I will show you around. I noticed the hsc fans loved the band. Even had one guy give a standing ovation!!!

We brought the band, I noticed the dance team was there but not in uniform, 4 buses of students and less than half the team. We left 77 at home. And thanks to HSC hospitality for the food at the tailgate. It was a great time.

I did hear that one of the buses for the team didn't show and so players started cramming into cars!

Good luck!!! Your QB is going to be hard to beat!!

Watch out llamaguy!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2012, 08:23:38 AM
Quote from: narch on September 08, 2012, 10:32:05 PM
mu gets a 34-21 win over gcq...game wasn't really as close as the score...gcq scores twice late after being down 34-7 - the running game for mu racked up 170+ yards and the monarchs only threw it 12 times - ferrum gets the only other usasac win

i saw that w&j was up for most of the game vs. #9 SJF, before losing 28-24...not sure if that means anything for the monarchs, though
MU played a good all around game, narch - one of their scores was off a blocked punt.  Hopefully, the Quakers can get their act together.  Good luck to the Monarchs the rest of the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on September 10, 2012, 09:15:03 AM
CNU85

Didn't know that CNU and HSC have entered into a four year deal. HSC has also entered into an agreement to play Walbash home and away. Two difficult out of conference games but if you're going to get better I guess you need to play better teams. I look forward to visting CNU next year. I hear the atmosphere is really good and I know the game will be a difficult one for HSC to win. Good luck the rest of the season. I didn't see the band As I migrated to my usual spot for halftime but I heard alot of people speak highly of your band. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 11, 2012, 01:51:35 PM
i'm anxious for the weekend for a number of reasons...not the least of which is finding out more about the monarchs

they've played a good team relatively close (w&j) and they've blown out a bad team (guilford)...i think ehc is closer to w&j than they are to gcq

to beat ehc, i think mu is going to have to be more balanced than they were vs. gcq...12 pass attempts won't get it done

ehc appears to be less effective on the ground than they've been the last few years, averaging just 3.2 ypc and to date, mu has held opponents to just 2.7 ypc - despite giving up a lot of yards late vs. guilford, i like the way the monarch defense is playing...they looked like they were flying to the ball in both games - that aggressive play has led to some drive sustaining penalties in both games, though - mu can't continue to do this...they're averaging over 100 penalty yards/game

the offense needs to find some balance and gain more than the 277 total yards they've gained in each of the first two games

go monarchs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on September 11, 2012, 05:11:11 PM
If anyone is interested I'm running the USAC Pick-Em's thread again this season.  We're a couple games in already but it's never too late to jump in.

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7806.0

Also, I have to agree with both '85s on the attendance of the CNU-HSC game, I would be surprised if it was over 3000.  The only way that 7606 is even remotely possible is if they counted every time someone walked towards the stadium and ended up counting the same people several times as they moved between the tailgate, stadium, restroom, concessions, etc.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on September 11, 2012, 05:36:27 PM
Agrred on the comments regarding attendance this past Saturday at the CNU vs. HSC game. The crowd was very small by HSC standards. Don't know why but I assume UVA playing at home and the race in Richmond has something to do with it. Show up for homecoming or the Macon game and you'll see a crowd approaching 10,000 people.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Shoreman on September 12, 2012, 05:56:16 AM
SAA Picks for the week:

Millsaps
at Point, Majors win big v. NAIA opponent, 28+ margin

Ave Maria
at Birmingham Southern, BSC by 35

Sewanee
at Maryville (Tenn.), Tigers over Scots by 15

Claremont-M-S
at Rhodes, Rhodes loses to west coast Stags by 7

Centre
at Washington and Lee, Centre by 10
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 12, 2012, 10:30:02 AM
shoreman
Maryville over Sewanee, but your other picks are probably on the money right

your pick last week of BSC 'big' over Huntingdon was right in that BSC did win, but wrong in that they won 'big' ;D
it was a good game to the end, like last year.
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 15, 2012, 09:58:58 PM
tough loss for the monarchs, today...leading 20-10 at halftime, they were shut out in the second half and allowed ehc 24 points

reber had a big game through the air, throwing for 295 yards and 2 tds (no int's) on a 22-38 night, and he chipped in 49 rushing yards, to boot

mu held ehc to just 2.6 ypc, but ehc ran it 31 times and threw it 51 times for 364 yards...and mu had 16 penalties for 134 (vs. 5/44 for ehc)...you can't give a quality team that many free yards on the road and expect to win...this young team needs to learn how to play aggressively without drawing flags, and they need to close out games
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 16, 2012, 02:52:33 PM
way to go Coach Rader and the boys from Murrville

The Huntingdon Hawks 'O' was hitting on all 8 cylinders in LaGrange Ga last night.

Great win and great to see the coaches and many friends.

Huntingdon travels to Va to play Hampden Sydney next week...tough team, long trip

Go Hawks and Keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 17, 2012, 07:24:24 AM
Been gone so long, I forgot how to post on here.

Is there any Cougar (Averett) fans left on here?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 17, 2012, 01:31:29 PM
Not lately Dad
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wasper68 on September 17, 2012, 05:18:42 PM
Quote from: narch on September 15, 2012, 09:58:58 PM
tough loss for the monarchs, today...leading 20-10 at halftime, they were shut out in the second half and allowed ehc 24 points

reber had a big game through the air, throwing for 295 yards and 2 tds (no int's) on a 22-38 night, and he chipped in 49 rushing yards, to boot

mu held ehc to just 2.6 ypc, but ehc ran it 31 times and threw it 51 times for 364 yards...and mu had 16 penalties for 134 (vs. 5/44 for ehc)...you can't give a quality team that many free yards on the road and expect to win...this young team needs to learn how to play aggressively without drawing flags, and they need to close out games

Penalties hurt the Monarchs significantly in the 2nd half.  It seemed as though EHC made good adjustments throwing the underneath crossing patterns in the 2nd half against the pass rush.  From the stands it looked like Methodist was blitzing every play.  Defense tightened up and quit giving up the big play(except the TD called back for holding). 

You guys have a lot of speed on offense.  Good luck the rest of the year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on September 26, 2012, 07:29:12 AM
That bad?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: JRitt on September 26, 2012, 11:40:43 AM
Big week for the Pride!! First conference game.... Lets get a W 8-)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 29, 2012, 04:56:31 PM
good 34-33 win for the pride...they never quit and answered everything the monarchs did
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on September 30, 2012, 08:06:15 PM
I am waiting to see the stats from this game, but unofficially the Pride put up 526 yards!! Only allowing 391.  Throndset is going to have many great games in his career. I think I speak for many alumni/alumnae, we are very happy to see Young in as head coach.

I think I probably have to retire from d3boards, I have a job that will/is probably a conflict of interest.  I can probably stick around for football season, but I probably will not be around for basketball season. Roll Pride!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on October 02, 2012, 04:07:35 PM
Quote from: GuyFormerlyPSBBG on September 30, 2012, 08:06:15 PM
I am waiting to see the stats from this game, but unofficially the Pride put up 526 yards!! Only allowing 391.  Throndset is going to have many great games in his career. I think I speak for many alumni/alumnae, we are very happy to see Young in as head coach.

I think I probably have to retire from d3boards, I have a job that will/is probably a conflict of interest.  I can probably stick around for football season, but I probably will not be around for basketball season. Roll Pride!!

I'll be sorry to see you go, but congratulations on the job.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 07, 2012, 12:47:30 PM
Great game at CNU last night!! Weather was perfect, atmosphere was amazing. The second largest crowd in CNU history - 6,137.....4 people shy of the record set last year. (For you HSC fans....that equates to 17,000 in attendance the way you count).

Halftime show had fireworks while the marching band played the fight song.

And the game was incredible....CNU kept pulling away and Ferrum never quit and kept coming back. Ferrum is a good team. Kudos for playing to the last second and fighting all the way. It would have been easy to quit down 38-17.

CNU O-line dominated. Their 160 lb running back was running over Ferrum's D linemen twice his size.

And the CNU coaching preparation was the best I have seen. CNU has 3 QB's who all started at some point last year when we ran the table in conference play. So last night with Edwards not 100% I was expecting either Garner or Montsavais. CNU opens with Morrast in Wildcat formation. Ok, nice switch up. But wait - Morrast played QB the ENTIRE game (missed one play due to losing his helmet). He had 5 touchdowns. 2 rushing and three in the air! He was CNU's leading rusher going into the game. He looked poised, made a few "rookie" mistakes. But he had to have played QB in high school. CNU had almost 450 yards of offense.

It will be interesting to see the game plan next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 07, 2012, 06:58:52 PM
Well that was a good game, but being a Ferrum fan, I was hoping for a different outcome. Two fumbles in the first half that resulted in CNU TD's, too many penalties, and the inability to stop CNU's offense really made it frustrating. Ferrum did give a great effort in coming from 14 pts. down to tie it in the first half, and closing a 21 point deficit to 7 points...If Ferrum's last kickoff had not gone out of bounds...and I am not so sure it did, we may have been in a position to force OT.
Brubaker # 10 for Ferrum had over 100 yards rushing, and over 100 receiving. Reynolds had a really good game too, but all in all, there seems to be a talent gap that Ferrum has not overcome....not yet anyway!  Congrats Captains.
 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 08, 2012, 08:27:00 AM
Finally a Win..........congrats - now lets see if they can build off it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2012, 02:13:15 PM
i'm looking forward to mu/m'ville this weekend...this has been a fun series (2008 aside) with all but one of the games (2008) being decided by 6 or fewer points and the average margin of victory (2008 aside) being just over 3 points...the 2009 game went to 4 ot's - in the 7 games since 2005, mu has 3 wins and m'ville has 4, so i'm expecting a tight game...of course, i probably said the same thing in 2008 :)

here is what is most intriguing (statistically) about the match-up this year:

mu ranks 2nd in the usasac in rushing at 217 ypg and has thrown 11 td's vs. just 3 ints...but m'ville ranks 1st in the usasac vs. the pass, giving up just 139.8 ypg and intercepting 4 passes to go with 6 sacks...

m'ville ranks 1st in the usasac in passing at 225.4 ypg and has 11 rusing td's...but mu ranks 1st in the usasac vs. the run, giving up just 73 ypg and 6 tds...

classic case of strength vs. strength

if one team has to win "left handed", who has the advantage?

m'ville ranks 6th in the usasac in passing yardage at 161.2 ypg with 8 td's and 8 ints...the monarchs give up 315 yards per game through the air, but they've intercepted 8 passes and they have 16 sacks...can m'ville protect the ball and qb when they decide to pass?

mu ranks 6th in the usasac in rushing yardage at 119 ypg and they've scored 6 tds...m'ville gives up over 200 ypg rushing, but they've forced 6 fumbles...can the monarchs run it enough to keep m'ville on their toes in pass defense?

i don't have the answers, but i look forward to seeing what unfolds on Saturday!

as an aside, since this series was renewed in 2005, the road team won the first 4 games and the home team has won the last 3...i'm hoping the pattern will hold true for exactly one more year
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 09, 2012, 02:36:13 PM
Murrville's Coach Rader will light it up, no doubt.
keep the faith

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on October 09, 2012, 05:41:23 PM
Narch asks, "if one team has to win "left handed", who has the advantage?"

One of murville's qb's is in fact left handed....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 10, 2012, 04:31:21 PM
The Pride is doing the deed for coach E
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 13, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
 MU literally kicks themselves in the backside missing 3 xps and a 26 yd fg in a 28-24 loss - 4 toys which all led to MVC pts didn't help - MVC had around 80 yds rushing...MU threw for 275+ - more later....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2012, 05:22:37 PM
Quote from: narch on October 13, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
MU literally kicks themselves in the backside missing 3 xps and a 26 yd fg in a 28-24 loss - 4 toys which all led to MVC pts didn't help - MVC had around 80 yds rushing...MU threw for 275+ - more later....

did you go to game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 13, 2012, 09:45:23 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 13, 2012, 05:22:37 PM
Quote from: narch on October 13, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
MU literally kicks themselves in the backside missing 3 xps and a 26 yd fg in a 28-24 loss - 4 toys which all led to MVC pts didn't help - MVC had around 80 yds rushing...MU threw for 275+ - more later....

did you go to game?
yes i did...and i hate auto-correct :)...that was supposed to read 4 to's (turnovers) rather than 4 toys...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 13, 2012, 10:00:40 PM
so...a few hours after the game i've had a chance to digest - the home losses to gc and now m'ville have been incredibly difficult to swallow, because the monarchs have been so close and really played well enough to win, but for little things - today it was the kicking game and some untimely drops by the wr's (i counted at least 3 drops on 3rd downs which would have moved the chains if the catch was made)

the mu defense really played well enough to win today...they did a fantastic job of shutting down the top running team in the conference - all four m'ville td's came after or on monarch turnovers, and one of the mu to's was on 1st and goal from the m'ville 4

max reber is the real deal at qb...tough as nails, great leader and throws a beautiful ball...he made one very costly mistake (a pick 6) today, but he made many more outstanding plays - the game has really slowed down for him and he's playing as well as any monarch qb i've seen in my 15+ years watching mu football - he had 3 td's, 275+ yards and another 50 or so on the ground - he also had a really good day punting today, too..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 13, 2012, 10:31:57 PM
i would be ignoring the elephant in the room if i didn't talk about another issue today...it's past time that mu does something to get the visitors on the other side of the field - there was nearly a brawl in the stands today, and thankfully cooler heads prevailed, and mu security did a nice job

when i arrived at the game, i was impressed by the amount of maroon and orange i saw in the stands, especially given the distance traveled by the m'ville crew...what i immediately noticed, and didn't like, is that a good percentage of the m'ville fans were not sitting in the section reserved for visiting fans AND there were NUMEROUS cowbells and plastic horns...well, the horns seemed to be at the root of the problem today

i witnessed a 45-50 year old m'ville fan blowing one of these horns non-stop, right in the ear of a monarch fan for about 3 or 4 minutes at the start of the game - after asking the gentleman to stop 2 to 3 times, the monarch fan turned around and said "stop blowing that effing horn"...words were exchanged, security stepped in and the m'ville fans were asked to stop blowing the horns...which produced the single funniest line i think i've ever heard...a particularly loud and obnoxious m'ville mother responded by saying "why can the marching band blow their horns and we can't"...and she was serious - this same horn blowing fan and the dozen or so folks around him continued to complain loudly about "not being able to support their team" and how "unwelcome" they felt on our campus...and they complained about EVERY SINGLE CALL made by the officials - in fact, there was even one point that they complained about a penalty called against MU (they apparently thought it was called against m'ville, but i agreed that it shouldn't have been called :)) - listening to this group of fans for 3 hours was exhausting...the loud and obnoxious mother even tongue-lashed the mu coaching staff because they didn't remove our team from the field when her son was injured...honestly, i've NEVER heard of a team being removed from the field when a player was injured, and the m'ville staff didn't have their players off the field, either...but this didn't stop this mother from calling the mu coaches classless...at the top of her large lungs

fast forward to the end of the game, when mu attempts an on-side kick...for some inexplicable reason, the refs blew the play dead before the ball was touched by either team - when the officials (correctly) granted mu a re-kick, these m'ville fans went crazy since m'ville recovered the kick - their over-the-top belly-aching about officials who had been paid off and were cheating the scots apparently was enough for the mu fan who had been putting up with a horn in his ear at the start of the game, and he turned around and said "the play was whistled dead, dumb@@@, give it a rest"...that didn't go over well, but i've got to be honest...if security hadn't stepped in, that would have been a matchup that favored mu...that mu fan was BIG and mad - i observed those same m'ville fans berating mu greeks as they left the stadium - these are 50+ year old PARENTS of college students, who are shouting at 18-22 year old kids who did nothing beyond having fun on a beautiful fall afternoon (i didn't witness any issues during the game with the mu greeks and m'ville fans, since they were sufficiently far apart) - even after the altercation, the mu fan was removed from the stadium, and his girlfriend/wife was collecting their things and m'ville fans had the audacity to tell her to "sit your @@@ down"...amazing - obviously this isn't an indictment of all m'ville fans, and the mu fans weren't exactly the most gracious hosts, but it does underscore the importance of mu making some changes to the seating arrangements, because i could easily see a situation that gets ugly with those teams sharing stands
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 13, 2012, 10:55:26 PM
just looked at usasac scores, and i've got to be honest...the cnu/lagrange score is a bit of a shocker...what happened to your boys today, '85?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 13, 2012, 11:11:26 PM
Quote from: narch on October 13, 2012, 10:55:26 PM
just looked at usasac scores, and i've got to be honest...the cnu/lagrange score is a bit of a shocker...what happened to your boys today, '85?
I was checking scores earlier and saw it was 13-3 at the end of the third and started watching. CNU had no passing game, the QB was getting his passes no where near his receivers. The announcers thought he was injured but CNU didn't replace him until very late. You also have to question CNU going for it on a 4 and 21 at the LC 40 with just under 6 mins left and still a 7 point game at that point. LC had a 3 and out and the ensuing punt hit a CNU player and was recoverd by LC leading to the final LC TD.

And about your previous post, narch, about the m'ville fans, with some of our experiences up there, I can easily believe your account of today's events.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on October 14, 2012, 09:43:39 PM
Quote from: narch on October 13, 2012, 10:55:26 PM
just looked at usasac scores, and i've got to be honest...the cnu/lagrange score is a bit of a shocker...what happened to your boys today, '85?

It was close right until the end, as Hawks88 reported.  CNU had the ball inside the red zone with about 8 minutes left in the 4th quarter, down 7, and chose to go for it on 4th-and-2 instead of taking the FG try.  We got stuffed.

The defense held out and forced a punt with about 4 mins to go.  We muffed it and LaGrange recovered.  They drove down the field and scored on that possession, effectively ending our try at a comeback.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on October 15, 2012, 10:54:56 AM
Narch:

I am sorry that a few Maryville fans were jerks.  I do not know if there is much that can be done about jerks but I have made Maryville's athletic dept. aware of your comments. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 15, 2012, 02:35:10 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on October 15, 2012, 10:54:56 AM
Narch:

I am sorry that a few Maryville fans were jerks.  I do not know if there is much that can be done about jerks but I have made Maryville's athletic dept. aware of your comments.
scottiedoug...i understand fully that a few bad apples can spoil the entire bushel, and i don't for a moment cast aspersions on the entire m'ville fandome...i'm certain there were m'ville fans who enjoyed a fantastic college football game on a spectacular saturday afternoon without a hint of malice toward the mu coaching staff, mu greek students, mu athletic administrators, mu fans, etc...

this particular group of 12 - 15 fans was pretty riled up from the get-go when they were told they couldn't blow their horns (thank goodness - the inventor of those horns should be forced to sit in a room with those things blaring for 3 hours every day for the rest of his/her life as punishment) or shake their cowbells (which they continued to do, by the way, without repurcussion), and the group "us vs. them" mentality kicked in - mu fans did little to diffuse the situation, and the fact that the game was so tight didn't help matters

the greater theme that i meant to convey was that mu needs to get the visitors on the other side of the field in temporary bleachers (and this was a point that many of the m'ville fans made...one even went so far as to say to our security guards "this is your fault for allowing us to sit on this side - put some bleachers up on the other side" and "you've got all these methodist fans around inciting us" (ignoring the fact that few of them, herself included, were sitting in the section which is roped off and reserved for visiting fans) - while i agree with her point regarding the seating arrangement, it is interesting that a 40+ year old, who is probably the mother of a college football player can't take responsibility for her own actions and fails to understand that installing bleachers and moving fans in the first quarter of a game is a logistical nightmare...but i digress

this is precisely why mu needs to those opposing fans on the other side of the field - if any of those things had happened 75 yards across the field, the only discussion from any mu or m'ville fan would be about a terrific football game
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 15, 2012, 02:58:24 PM
to get back to football, has the usasac ever been more difficult to predict? just when i thought that cnu would likely cruise to a conference championship based on their head-to-head win vs. ferrum, they get beat by a team that i had pegged for the bottom 3 in the conference - they still control their destiny, but lagrange beating cnu should give ferrum fans hope that the captains might lose again

i think the monarchs could be a tough test for ferrum this weekend if they respond to the m'ville loss in a positive way - ferrum's rushing attack scares me more than the m'ville attack, because it is a more classic triple option threat (m'ville actually ran most effectively vs. mu when they went to the option), they've got a qb who is a home-run threat and they are more balanced than m'ville was coming into the game (fc ranks #1 rushing offense and #4 passing offense), but the monarchs have proven to be very effective against opposing running teams and while the pass defense gives up yardage, they also lead the conference in interceptions (along with ferrum, which is second to last in pass yardage)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on October 16, 2012, 10:53:20 AM
Anyone see the Pride record?

;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 17, 2012, 02:16:45 PM
Quote from: moshergc9 on October 16, 2012, 10:53:20 AM
Anyone see the Pride record?

;D
gc is tied for 1st place in the conference with 4 other schools ...they are clearly in the top 5 of the conference...right now :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 17, 2012, 08:56:46 PM
Traveling from Bama to State College, Pa, we stopped in Murrville, and watched a 10 min of the Murrville practice. Their 'O' looks good. Got to get a quick hello to Coach Rader (who appears to have taken well to his return to east Tn) but he was very busy, and i hated to impose.  Got to speak to OL coach Phillip Bailey (former Huntingdon player and teammate of my son) who seems to be having a blast in east Tn. Both fellers are quality individuals.

This whole area and their campus is very very nice.

The Scots are 2-1 in the USA south, with Lagrange this week. So i will be pulling for the Scots. I sure hope the smoke is clearing over the departure of the former coach, and the Maryville family will continue to rally around the football program/

keep the faith and Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 18, 2012, 09:32:18 AM
Adam Turer did a nice job of covering the football resurgence at intracity rivals Guilford and Greensboro in this week's Mid-Atlantic Around the Region.  Thanks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 18, 2012, 09:51:27 AM
Quote from: narch on October 13, 2012, 10:31:57 PM
i would be ignoring the elephant in the room if i didn't talk about another issue today...it's past time that mu does something to get the visitors on the other side of the field - there was nearly a brawl in the stands today, and thankfully cooler heads prevailed, and mu security did a nice job

when i arrived at the game, i was impressed by the amount of maroon and orange i saw in the stands, especially given the distance traveled by the m'ville crew...what i immediately noticed, and didn't like, is that a good percentage of the m'ville fans were not sitting in the section reserved for visiting fans AND there were NUMEROUS cowbells and plastic horns...well, the horns seemed to be at the root of the problem today

i witnessed a 45-50 year old m'ville fan blowing one of these horns non-stop, right in the ear of a monarch fan for about 3 or 4 minutes at the start of the game - after asking the gentleman to stop 2 to 3 times, the monarch fan turned around and said "stop blowing that effing horn"...words were exchanged, security stepped in and the m'ville fans were asked to stop blowing the horns...which produced the single funniest line i think i've ever heard...a particularly loud and obnoxious m'ville mother responded by saying "why can the marching band blow their horns and we can't"...and she was serious - this same horn blowing fan and the dozen or so folks around him continued to complain loudly about "not being able to support their team" and how "unwelcome" they felt on our campus...and they complained about EVERY SINGLE CALL made by the officials - in fact, there was even one point that they complained about a penalty called against MU (they apparently thought it was called against m'ville, but i agreed that it shouldn't have been called :)) - listening to this group of fans for 3 hours was exhausting...the loud and obnoxious mother even tongue-lashed the mu coaching staff because they didn't remove our team from the field when her son was injured...honestly, i've NEVER heard of a team being removed from the field when a player was injured, and the m'ville staff didn't have their players off the field, either...but this didn't stop this mother from calling the mu coaches classless...at the top of her large lungs

fast forward to the end of the game, when mu attempts an on-side kick...for some inexplicable reason, the refs blew the play dead before the ball was touched by either team - when the officials (correctly) granted mu a re-kick, these m'ville fans went crazy since m'ville recovered the kick - their over-the-top belly-aching about officials who had been paid off and were cheating the scots apparently was enough for the mu fan who had been putting up with a horn in his ear at the start of the game, and he turned around and said "the play was whistled dead, dumb@@@, give it a rest"...that didn't go over well, but i've got to be honest...if security hadn't stepped in, that would have been a matchup that favored mu...that mu fan was BIG and mad - i observed those same m'ville fans berating mu greeks as they left the stadium - these are 50+ year old PARENTS of college students, who are shouting at 18-22 year old kids who did nothing beyond having fun on a beautiful fall afternoon (i didn't witness any issues during the game with the mu greeks and m'ville fans, since they were sufficiently far apart) - even after the altercation, the mu fan was removed from the stadium, and his girlfriend/wife was collecting their things and m'ville fans had the audacity to tell her to "sit your @@@ down"...amazing - obviously this isn't an indictment of all m'ville fans, and the mu fans weren't exactly the most gracious hosts, but it does underscore the importance of mu making some changes to the seating arrangements, because i could easily see a situation that gets ugly with those teams sharing stands

Sounds like a home game to me. I never get around the other teams fans althought I know MU is unique. I do love your mad  make believe fan. Why didn't you just knock his lights out? LOL :) :) :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2012, 10:30:17 PM
Narch,

CNU just didn't look like they wanted to play. LaGrange took care of business. CNU looked flat. not good at all. gonna be a long 4 weeks!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 19, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
this is what d3 is all about

http://www.cnusports.com/news/2012/10/18/FB_1018121308.aspx?path=football (http://www.cnusports.com/news/2012/10/18/FB_1018121308.aspx?path=football)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 20, 2012, 09:10:35 AM
85- I have to say, I was surprised at the loss for the Captains last week. I was at the Ferrum CNU game, and while I was disappointed at the outcome, it was a good game, and not a real surprise. CNU looked strong as usual. The week before that, I went to Danville, and saw Ferrum play Averett. Averett was not all that impressive, but they were able to put together a few good drives. Ferrum controlled the game, leading 49-7 in the 4th quarter before removing the starters.
So while Ferrum was losing to CNU, Averett had beaten LaGrange...That led me to believe that LaGrange was likely gonna come out on the short end of the stick against the Captains....not quite how it turned out. Based on what I have seen, I feel like CNU will have no problem with Averett. I see the Captains winning by 20 easily....but I thought the same about CNU vs.LaGrange.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2012, 10:38:48 PM
another hard-fought loss for the monarchs...they gave ferrum everything they had, and took everything that ferrum gave them, only to fall 21-13 - the monarchs were 0-3 on 4th down, with two of them coming deep in ferrum territory - in the first half mu failed on 4th and 1 from the fc 9 and with 2:30 left in the game, the monarchs failed on 4th and 1 from the fc 14 on a drive that looked like it could potentially be a game-tying drive - mu outgained ferrum 393 to 281 and held the ferrum rushing game to just 3.1 ypc and 159 total yards, and even won the turnover battle, but couldn't close it - red-zone offense has struggled this season, converting less than 50% of their redzone chances to td's, and it bit them again today

reber had another outstanding day...he threw a bad interception which ferrum turned into a td, but he was right at 50% completion rate for 295 and a td...he's the best qb in the conference, in my mind - cross caught 7 balls for 135 and bevans and gillis had big games, as well - the mu defense played their back-sides off today, especially bing, jones and brad wade...those three were BEASTS today

another surprising week of results across the usasac...lagrange beats maryville, ncwc hammers gc...still a 3 way tie at the top
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 20, 2012, 10:48:56 PM
check out this third quarter for ncwc vs. gc

3  14:45 N.C. Wesleyan - Dwayne Hollis 90 yd kickoff return. (Jamias Williams kick is good).  17 - 14
3  07:42 N.C. Wesleyan - Hampus Lithen 26 yd field goal. Drive: 12 plays, 81 yards in 4:13.  17 - 17
3  03:21 N.C. Wesleyan - Jacques Alston 70 yd pass from John Jackson. (Hampus Lithen kick is good).
                                   Drive: 1 plays, 70 yards in 0:14.  17 - 24
3  01:33 N.C. Wesleyan - Jamal Smith 90 yd run. (Hampus Lithen kick is good). Drive: 1 plays, 90 yards in 0:14.  17 - 31
3  00:16 N.C. Wesleyan - Dwayne Hollis 40 yd interception return. (Hampus Lithen kick is good).  17 - 38
3  00:00 N.C. Wesleyan - Jamias Williams 59 yd pass from John Jackson. (Hampus Lithen kick is good). Drive: 1 plays, 59 yards in 0:01.

39 points on a 90 yd ko return, an int return and THREE 1 play drives (to go along with a 12 play drive) - ncwc was down 17-0 and ends up winning 45-23 thanks to that 3rd quarter
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 21, 2012, 11:57:06 AM
Narch- I sat here and watched the broadcast from beginning to end...(almost, was a little late signing on.) Ferrum played good enough to win, but I think they got away with one. MU looked really strong, and I knew they would not roll over and play dead. They are a very good team, and from what I saw, are better than their record indicates.
They have had some close games, and played some good teams. My hope is that the Monarchs win out the rest of the way. I do believe it's possible.

Go MU! ( ok I admit I have selfish reasons for wanting them to win) but in all honesty, I think they are good enough to win out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 22, 2012, 02:41:58 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 21, 2012, 11:57:06 AMMy hope is that the Monarchs win out the rest of the way. I do believe it's possible.
i appreciate the confidence, but i just want them to win this week...then we'll worry about the rest of the season

for the third straight week, the monarch defense gets the team ranked #1 in the conference in rushing...i'm hoping that mu can withstand that lagrange attack which put up 269 on the ground against m'ville last week and 227 the week before vs. cnu - what concerns me even more, though, is the lagrange defense...they gave up just 117 yards to a m'ville offense that i thought looked pretty solid the week before - m'ville had just 20 net rushing yards on 24 attempts and m'ville had just 7 first downs (2 by penalty) - this comes just a week after lagrange held cnu to just over 200 yards and 6 points...if the monarchs can't get going offensively, it won't matter what the defense does
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2012, 02:18:20 PM
lost in the frustration of team results are some outstanding individual performances for the monarchs

max reber has moved into 5th place all-time in career passing yardage for mu, passing brandon parks last weekend...he is around 700 yards behind admiralpapi (dustin daniels) for 4th place and could potentially get there by the end of the year - his 22 career td passes put him in 4th all-time at mu, 4 behind daniels, 9 behind the rocket and 22 behind all-time leader brian turner...the career marks for both daniels and roncketti are within range for this season - his 1,669 yards this season already ranks as the #6 best single season in mu history as do his 120 completions - the 15 tds he has thrown this year are tied for the #2 season, 1 behind the 16 that brian turner threw in 1998...with 3 games left, the yardage and td season marks are in jeopardy

with 758 yards this season, vaughn cross has moved into 4th all-time in receiving yardage at mu with 1,544 career yards - he is exactly 100 yards behind patrick doleman for 3rd place, 374 behind len bellamy for 2nd, and 554 away from the career record held by antonio wilkerson..i think it is very likely he'll be at #3 by the end of the season - with 51 catches this season, he has moved into 2nd place on the career reception list with 105 and needs just 23 to set the new mark at mu - his next receiving td will put him alone atop the mu career list, as he is currently tied at 14 with len bellamy and william ray - those 758 yards are currently the 4th best single season mark at mu, and with 62 more, they become the best receiving yardage season in monarch history - the season mark for td's is 9 (cross sits at 7) and the season mark for receptions is 56 - there is a good chance that cross will be setting marks in all of these areas

brad wade has 8.5 sacks this season, good for 3rd on the single season list - jamaal leggette had 9 in 2002 and quincy malloy set the mu record with 14 in 2001 - keltcey richardson's 6 interceptions this season match the mark set by james brown (jump back, heeeeyyy) in both 1990 and 1991 and his 7 career ints (through 17 games) puts him in a tie for 3rd place all-time

[/silver lining discussion]

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Titan29 on October 24, 2012, 08:28:09 AM
Just want to respond to Narch's comments from last week about our fans during the Maryville-Methodist game.  .  I was in the stands during the game and, must admit, very embarrassed by the way several of our fans acted during the game.  Especially the one's who were clearly sitting outside of the visitors section.  My wife and I were amazed by how confrontational our fans were towards the mu fans.  I saw several purposefully blow the horns right next to the heads of several mu supporters.  We knew problems were going develop and thankfully security was able to breakup a few confrontations

There seems to be several parents and, in particular, a couple who don't have a son playing on the team, but has full access to the football program by Coach Radar and Athletic Director Schram, that is leading this type of behavior which many don't approve of.  They clearly crossed the line between supporting the team and causing problems in the stands during the game.  My wife commented how our fans would react if opposing fans would sit in our home stands, blow loud horns and ring cowbells in our cheering section.  Our fans would react the same way as the mu fams.

I remember a game last season at home against Averett when several drunk MC students went over into the Averett stands and started having confrontations with their players, coaches and fans.  Coach Ierulli saw this, stopped the game and signaled security to remove our fans out of the stands holding the Averett parents and fans.  A class move by Coach I.

We want our son's final season to be a great experience for him and the 2012 Fighting Scots.  Coach Radar and the new coaching staff are doing a fine job putting this team together and are excited about the upcoming game against Averett.

At the same time, we have nothing but the highest respect for Coach Ierulli who recruited and coach our son during his first 3 years at Maryville.  Many parents, alums and fans were disgusted by the way Coach Ierulli was removed by AD Schram and VP Kemp. 

So responding to DGPugh's comments, the smoke is slowly clearing, because we support our players, Coach Radar and MC football.  But there are still many hard feelings toward these 2 women and will be there for a very long time......

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 24, 2012, 11:19:57 AM
Titan29
Thanks
i really know nothing at all about the problems about the Coaching change, accept what i read here and in a few news links that folk put on this discussion. I do know the campus is real nice, and i enjoy traveling through that part of Tn. 

i believe Coach Rader is a good coach and real nice guy (a bit intense..... but that's ok) and i am glad yall are rally-ing around him and the program.

i will continue to hope yall finish out the season strong, and all the senior kids enjoy their final season

thanks for the update
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 24, 2012, 12:25:18 PM
titan29 - don't absolve the mu fans...there was plenty of boorish behavior to go around on both sides - it is good to get a different perspective, though, as i thought perhaps my view of the situation was tainted green & gold

the problem won't be solved until mu gets the opposing fans on the other side, though...this past weekend there were a number of ferrum fans sitting well into the mu section - for 99.8% of the game, there were no problems, but i observed the mother of a ferrum player (i assume this, as she was wearing a ferrum jersey with a number on it, and her husband/friend had the same numbered jersey on) tell a mu fan to "sit down and shut up" when a group of mu fans protested the fact that there was not a personal foul/late hit called (the play was borderline and could have been called either way, in my eyes) - this fan was seated almost at mid-field and had 2 or 3 younger kids with him - it didn't escalate at all, but i just don't think that kind of personal attack has a place at a football game, especially for something that i've seen in just about EVERY game i've ever attended - i can't remember many games where fans didn't jeer officials for what they perceived as missed calls...it's part of the game and it's what fans do - i don't recall mu fans telling the ferrum fans to "shut up" when they protested in a similar way - the problem is, when you put opposing fans in close proximity to each other and the teams are playing close, tense games, tempers are more likely to flare

unfortunately, i did a google search for aluminum bleachers, and i can't afford to donate any to mu quite yet :) seating for around 150 is over $12,000...i had no idea they would be that pricey
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 24, 2012, 01:39:58 PM
narch said "plenty of boorish behavior"

AUsome.. i really mean it.
i'll bet a cola that the only football discussion board where that phrase is used is D3.com 8-)

heck, in UCLA (the part of bama where i live) 'boorish behavior' is such a part of the norm, we ain't even got the phrase in our lexicon

sorry, i couldn't help myself. :)
keep the faith
and
Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on October 24, 2012, 02:16:56 PM

Opinions please....if I'm going to be in Silver Spring, MD, on  Saturday the 27th, what would be my best game to see within an hour and a half?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 24, 2012, 05:25:17 PM
Quote from: narch on October 13, 2012, 10:31:57 PM
i would be ignoring the elephant in the room if i didn't talk about another issue today...it's past time that mu does something to get the visitors on the other side of the field - there was nearly a brawl in the stands today, and thankfully cooler heads prevailed, and mu security did a nice job

when i arrived at the game, i was impressed by the amount of maroon and orange i saw in the stands, especially given the distance traveled by the m'ville crew...what i immediately noticed, and didn't like, is that a good percentage of the m'ville fans were not sitting in the section reserved for visiting fans AND there were NUMEROUS cowbells and plastic horns...well, the horns seemed to be at the root of the problem today

i witnessed a 45-50 year old m'ville fan blowing one of these horns non-stop, right in the ear of a monarch fan for about 3 or 4 minutes at the start of the game - after asking the gentleman to stop 2 to 3 times, the monarch fan turned around and said "stop blowing that effing horn"...words were exchanged, security stepped in and the m'ville fans were asked to stop blowing the horns...which produced the single funniest line i think i've ever heard...a particularly loud and obnoxious m'ville mother responded by saying "why can the marching band blow their horns and we can't"...and she was serious - this same horn blowing fan and the dozen or so folks around him continued to complain loudly about "not being able to support their team" and how "unwelcome" they felt on our campus...and they complained about EVERY SINGLE CALL made by the officials - in fact, there was even one point that they complained about a penalty called against MU (they apparently thought it was called against m'ville, but i agreed that it shouldn't have been called :)) - listening to this group of fans for 3 hours was exhausting...the loud and obnoxious mother even tongue-lashed the mu coaching staff because they didn't remove our team from the field when her son was injured...honestly, i've NEVER heard of a team being removed from the field when a player was injured, and the m'ville staff didn't have their players off the field, either...but this didn't stop this mother from calling the mu coaches classless...at the top of her large lungs

fast forward to the end of the game, when mu attempts an on-side kick...for some inexplicable reason, the refs blew the play dead before the ball was touched by either team - when the officials (correctly) granted mu a re-kick, these m'ville fans went crazy since m'ville recovered the kick - their over-the-top belly-aching about officials who had been paid off and were cheating the scots apparently was enough for the mu fan who had been putting up with a horn in his ear at the start of the game, and he turned around and said "the play was whistled dead, dumb@@@, give it a rest"...that didn't go over well, but i've got to be honest...if security hadn't stepped in, that would have been a matchup that favored mu...that mu fan was BIG and mad - i observed those same m'ville fans berating mu greeks as they left the stadium - these are 50+ year old PARENTS of college students, who are shouting at 18-22 year old kids who did nothing beyond having fun on a beautiful fall afternoon (i didn't witness any issues during the game with the mu greeks and m'ville fans, since they were sufficiently far apart) - even after the altercation, the mu fan was removed from the stadium, and his girlfriend/wife was collecting their things and m'ville fans had the audacity to tell her to "sit your @@@ down"...amazing - obviously this isn't an indictment of all m'ville fans, and the mu fans weren't exactly the most gracious hosts, but it does underscore the importance of mu making some changes to the seating arrangements, because i could easily see a situation that gets ugly with those teams sharing stands

Went to Methodist twice and never had any problems with their fans. It was strange to have to sit on the same side, but they were nice and friendly and didn't cause any problems. And yes AU won and still no issues. By the same token we went to Maryville twice and never had any issues there. Their fans were loud especially the coaches wife but they were having fun and never got out of line with us. Been to some other NC sites and that was a different story.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on October 24, 2012, 05:27:16 PM
85- - - -one of these years we will win another one against you guys. Don't ask me when but one of these years. (I hope)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on October 25, 2012, 08:43:52 AM
Quote from: narch on October 24, 2012, 12:25:18 PM
unfortunately, i did a google search for aluminum bleachers, and i can't afford to donate any to mu quite yet :) seating for around 150 is over $12,000...i had no idea they would be that pricey

Many places opt to rent instead of buy.  Maybe you could get a different group to "sponsor" the opposition bleachers for different games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 25, 2012, 01:18:54 PM
Quote from: Captain Bob on October 25, 2012, 08:43:52 AM
Quote from: narch on October 24, 2012, 12:25:18 PM
unfortunately, i did a google search for aluminum bleachers, and i can't afford to donate any to mu quite yet :) seating for around 150 is over $12,000...i had no idea they would be that pricey

Many places opt to rent instead of buy.  Maybe you could get a different group to "sponsor" the opposition bleachers for different games.
not a bad idea...a quick search turned up a company that would do this for around $4,000 for the season...seems like a small price to pay for the university, but still more than i would be able to donate :)

i may share this with the mu ad...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2012, 02:07:33 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 24, 2012, 01:39:58 PM
narch said "plenty of boorish behavior"

AUsome.. i really mean it.
i'll bet a cola that the only football discussion board where that phrase is used is D3.com 8-)

heck, in UCLA (the part of bama where i live) 'boorish behavior' is such a part of the norm, we ain't even got the phrase in our lexicon

sorry, i couldn't help myself. :)
keep the faith
and
Go Hawks

Lexicon? Is that a horse with a horn or a little green guy who sells cereal with marshmallows?   ;D :P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 25, 2012, 06:57:10 PM
a green guy that rides a horse...
no one ever laughs at my jokes, you are the first person that has laughed...and i have tried

keep the faith

pugh
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on October 27, 2012, 08:37:22 AM
Very excited about the Panthers game today against Methodist.  Should be a big crowd today and was impressed with the travel fans we had going to Maryville last week.  Congrats to Andre Carter who made USA-South Defensive Player of the Week and also made the D3 Team of the Week.  Amazing stat that he had 4 tackles for loss and 3 sacks against the Scots.

Just one note from the MC game by reading the game stats on attendance.  Maryville lists the stadium capacity of 3,000 and stated there was 5400 at the game.  Now way!!  Our bleachers were about 1/3 full and there were several open spots on the home side.  Now there were many fans standing outside the fence drinking alot of beer (I guess that's allowed at MC), but around 3,000 would be an accurate figure.

I guess MC's SID was drinking with their fans while making the attendance count......

Good luck today Panthers!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 27, 2012, 08:15:36 PM
great win for the monarchs today, 26-23 in OT - i was following the game online (listening, mostly, as the video was really useless...but the LC announcers did a really nice job) until mu got the ball inside their own 10 with around 5:00 left and down 10...then i get back online at around 4:45 this afternoon and see the final - ausherman had an amazing day with 4 fg's, including the game tying kick from 45 as time expired...HUGE kick

the lagrange defense held mu in check, giving up just 202 yards of offense and picking off reber twice, but the monarch defense was impressive as well (with the exception of allowing an 85 yard td from the qb) - the mu defense held the leading rusher in the conference to 63 yards on 26 carries (2.4 ypc)

this is a monarch team that has shown tremendous effort all season, despite difficult losses...it finally paid off for the green and gold - this is a team that is 13 points away from being undefeated in conference...maybe losing those close games helped this young team get a hard-fought, overtime road win
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 27, 2012, 10:02:45 PM
I was almost excited to see Panther Guy with a post...I thought that finally I would not be the only Ferrum fan on the board....then I remembered we aint the only Panther in the jungle anymore...oh well, I guees there will be a cat fight Saturday at Ferrum.

Go Panthers....You know which one I mean!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on October 31, 2012, 01:41:54 PM
Thanks for the shoutout from the original Panther.   Shoulod be a heck of a game on Saturday.  It just depends which LaGrange team shows up.  Will it be the one who shut down CNU and Maryville on the road or the one who lost against Averett.  Disappointed in our loss against Methodist.  Got to be able to put a team away when we get the chance.

I guarentee a Panther win on Saturday..........
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 31, 2012, 03:32:24 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 25, 2012, 06:57:10 PM
a green guy that rides a horse...
no one ever laughs at my jokes, you are the first person that has laughed...and i have tried

keep the faith

pugh
bahahahahaha.....we just have weird senses of humor!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 03, 2012, 08:00:08 AM
Panther Guy-

I watched the LC@CNU game online, and was really surprised at the outcome...I was shocked because I was at the Ferrum @ Averett game, and had no expectation that Averett would beat LaGrange the next week, after what I saw the week before. So Averett beats LaGrange, the same weekend CNU beats Ferrum...Then LC beats CNU.....very confusing...What I remember is that LC seems to have a really good O-line. They seemed to control things against CNU. Today will be a great game, but unfortunatly, I live about 4 1/2 hours away, and will have to watch on line. Good Luck to your Panthers....Better luck to mine! :)
Are you gonna be at the game?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 03, 2012, 12:17:58 PM
Just found this video, and thought I would post...Nicely Done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdytNC6zldE&feature=share
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2012, 06:12:52 PM
Mu gets their 2nd straight ot win vs. au to improve to 4-5 on th season...great crowd and best of all...au fans on the other side of the field :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 04, 2012, 04:48:58 AM
Narch-

I watched the GC- CNU game last night on line, and it seemed like GC, who is vastly improved, at times gave CNU all they wanted. When I watched the MU- Ferrum game, I remember thinking MU was much better than their record....They gave Ferrum fits. At the same time, it seems as though CNU is winning, but struggling to get their wins. While Ferrum has to take care of business against Maryville first,  I wonder what your outlook is on the Monarchs last game of the season? I will be every bit as big a Monarch fan as you this week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 05, 2012, 11:12:59 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 04, 2012, 04:48:58 AM
Narch-

I watched the GC- CNU game last night on line, and it seemed like GC, who is vastly improved, at times gave CNU all they wanted. When I watched the MU- Ferrum game, I remember thinking MU was much better than their record....They gave Ferrum fits. At the same time, it seems as though CNU is winning, but struggling to get their wins. While Ferrum has to take care of business against Maryville first,  I wonder what your outlook is on the Monarchs last game of the season? I will be every bit as big a Monarch fan as you this week!
i think that the monarchs have a shot, but they'll need to play their best game of the season to get the win...the passing game has been a bit off the last two games - reber & co. will need to step it up vs. the capts - the running game looked good vs. averett...it's a 4 headed monster right now...papillion has a nice speed/power game, flanagan is a bull, reber can make big plays with his legs from the qb spot, and payne showed a nice burst and some wiggle vs. averett...but this offense is going to need the passing game to score

defensively, cnu appears to be pretty balanced and they are taking care of the ball...i think mu could hold the cnu offense in check, but mu will need to score 27+ points to win, i think...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 06, 2012, 08:04:22 AM
Quote from: narch on November 05, 2012, 11:12:59 PM
Quote from: Allen C on November 04, 2012, 04:48:58 AM
Narch-

I watched the GC- CNU game last night on line, and it seemed like GC, who is vastly improved, at times gave CNU all they wanted. When I watched the MU- Ferrum game, I remember thinking MU was much better than their record....They gave Ferrum fits. At the same time, it seems as though CNU is winning, but struggling to get their wins. While Ferrum has to take care of business against Maryville first,  I wonder what your outlook is on the Monarchs last game of the season? I will be every bit as big a Monarch fan as you this week!
i think that the monarchs have a shot, but they'll need to play their best game of the season to get the win...the passing game has been a bit off the last two games - reber & co. will need to step it up vs. the capts - the running game looked good vs. averett...it's a 4 headed monster right now...papillion has a nice speed/power game, flanagan is a bull, reber can make big plays with his legs from the qb spot, and payne showed a nice burst and some wiggle vs. averett...but this offense is going to need the passing game to score

defensively, cnu appears to be pretty balanced and they are taking care of the ball...i think mu could hold the cnu offense in check, but mu will need to score 27+ points to win, i think...
"papillion has a nice speed/power game" ... with a name like Papillion (missed it with one extra "i"), it's hard to resist the old Ali line, "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee"!  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on November 07, 2012, 05:21:09 PM
Allen C: Tough game for MY Panthers last Saturday.  Ferrum got after us on both sides of the ball.  I've seen games at Ferrum before and knew it would be a tough venue to play at.  There is alot of quickness on Ferrum's defense and the 3 picks just killed us.  Still our guys played hard throughout the game.  The turnovers kept putting our defense in tough situations against a very good offensive scheme.  RB Gibson had a big day rushing for 150 yards.

Very impressed with your QB.  Big time player.  Reminds me of Mayo and believe he's just a sophomore.  Ferrum's got good fans, but it was a long drive back to LaGrange after a disappointing loss.

Want to comment later on about attendance figures at a certain school, but that will come later in the week.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on November 07, 2012, 05:26:01 PM
So, with one week to play, CNU and Ferrum are tied at 5-1 in league play.

Assuming they both win on Saturday, who gets the AQ bid?  CNU has a head-to-head win, but Ferrum has a better overall record.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 07, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
CNU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 07, 2012, 06:17:58 PM
That is correct...all that matters is the conference record, and the head to head is the tiebreaker.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 08, 2012, 04:15:45 PM
It's been a long time! I see most of the same old faces are chatting it up. I hope you are all doing well. Ive been at the CNU games but haven't had time to check the forums (Got a big boy job).

It appears the conference is more balanced than ever (from watching CNU games). Unfortunately I don't think it says much for our conference. CNU is definitely weaker than in past years yet is on top again. Ferrum has a pretty good squad and CNU shows moments of brilliance but overall the games have been evenly matched.

With that said, I am nervous for saturday. CNU is going to have a tough game.

Let's Go Captains!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 08, 2012, 06:21:48 PM
33,

I agree with what you posted conference is weak, but evemly matched...Ferrum will have a difficult game against Maryville. They are much better than last year, and Ferrum has to be on point to take the win....Re: Methodist, they really have improved also, and Ferrum only beat them by 8 points...I believe they could give CNU a run for their money.

With a win, Ferrum puts CNU in a must win situation. With a Ferrum loss, CNU wraps up the conference before they kickoff. Of course I will be a Ferrum/Monarch fan Saturday, but it will be a great weekend...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2012, 09:04:52 PM
a very weak conference. always has been. if the CAC ever gets enough schools to form a football conference, cnu better be prepared to finish 3rd every year for awhile.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 08, 2012, 10:23:50 PM
It's going to be a better conference next year with Huntingdon. They are very good. A true team on the rise. I think a lot of the conference is going to be in for a few shocks until they figure out how to get better fast.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on November 09, 2012, 02:05:34 AM
Looking at out of conference games, the USAC went 8-for-24 this season, just 1 in 3.  Guilford (now 5-4) and Shenandoah (now 1-8) combined for half of those 8 USAC wins.  Against teams that are mentioned in any national discussion, it wasn't even close.

The USAC is weak, I think we all agree there.  My question is, "Why?"

What can the conference do, as a whole, to improve ourselves across the board? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 09, 2012, 09:11:17 AM
Quote from: Captain Bob on November 09, 2012, 02:05:34 AM

What can the conference do, as a whole, to improve ourselves across the board?

More or less the same question was asked on the ODAC board a few days ago, although it focused more on actually winning a playoff game or two. I responded and it seems to have stirred some feathers but feel free to take a look at the responses. There are some good points made by the different people that got involved. It starts on page 1036 with tigerfanalso's post.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 09, 2012, 01:44:00 PM
Quote from: Captain Bob on November 09, 2012, 02:05:34 AMThe USAC is weak, I think we all agree there.  My question is, "Why?"

What can the conference do, as a whole, to improve ourselves across the board?
As a conference, we are made up of schools which don't have long and/or storied football traditions, outside of ferrum, and much of their football tradition was as a junior college...that hurts, but it isn't the only reason - i think the greater issue is that usasac schools can't/don't tend to keep talent, by and large - look at the 2 deep rosters for all of the usasac schools every year and you'll see lots of underclassmen...rosters in this conference tend to turn over a lot - the schools that win consistently in division iii are the programs that have lots of upperclassmen on the roster - i saw this first hand when w&j played mu...the monarchs were every bit as athletic (if not more) than the presidents, but w&j had full grown men playing on both sides of the line, a junior QB, a senior RB (RIP), and a junior WR - those guys have played for conference championships and playoff births for most of their careers, so there isn't much that phases them on the football field - that experience factor made a significant impact, in my mind, because they knew how to react...when you're playing a bunch of freshman and sophomores, they are more prone to mistakes - the usasac schools (mu included) need to find a way to keep more of the talent that they attract and that will go a long way toward helping the conference as a whole improve
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 10, 2012, 07:53:59 AM
Great discussion....Player retention is a problem for all schools, and Ferrum is no exception....As an example, last year Ferrum had 10 RB on its roster. 2 were Seniors and graduated, 1 returmed this year...the other 7 packed up and left. This year Ferrum has 12 RB's 1 was a WR last year, the one returning RB, 8 Freshmen, and the other two I think are transfers. Only one RB back from last year.  Several other positions affected the same way. This is a problem when it comes to building a winner, but there are other problems too. This conference has so many schools to compete against, recruiting wise....How many D 3 schools are there in Va?....How many D2? How many D1 FCS/FBS. My point is that there are a lot of D3 schools competing for the same pool of talent.

Also, how does a school like Ferrum as an example, get and keep the talented athlete when they are 35 miles from a city of any size,  and the school academically is not a William and Mary by any means. Oh and I almost forgot...37K per year in a rough economy....Couple that with the fact that if a freshman comes to a school to play football, and sits the bench the entire year, it lends to quick exits...That is another reason I think the USA South should have an active JV program. If they play, they may stay.

I know this has all been discussed many times on this board, but I find it easier to identify the problem rather than the solutions....Facility upgrades conference wide would help. More exposure of the individual institutions to potential players.... a marketing campaign of sorts may help, and just good ol exposure by winning. I am just not sure, but I advocate a round table or workshop be coordinated by the USA South Commissioner to include coaches and guest speakers that would foster a free exchange of ideas to adress the necessity to get the USA South a stronger stature in the national picture.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2012, 04:22:06 PM
Go Scots!!!! Thanks!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2012, 05:44:52 PM
who wins coy? MVC coach or Greensboro?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 10, 2012, 08:20:32 PM
tough loss for the panthers...right now the monarchs could use another fan allen c...you still behind the green & gold, even though they can't help your boys :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 10, 2012, 08:40:56 PM
Absolutely- A co championship is better than no championship
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on November 10, 2012, 08:43:38 PM
Ferrum had no answers today for MC...It was very disheartening. To get to that point, but again not get there. Go Methodist!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 10, 2012, 09:29:55 PM
mu in yet another tight game...down 29-24 with 6:30 left...cnu offense had been bogged down by the mu defense for most of the 2nd half, but they just went on a nice drive to score the go-ahead td
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 10, 2012, 09:39:38 PM
mu drives for a td, but vaughn cross was mugged on the 2pc with no flag...mu 30-29 with 2:30 left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 10, 2012, 09:46:28 PM
cnu announcers are very astute...they do a good job
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 10, 2012, 09:52:56 PM
great job monarchs! finishing the season on a 3 game win streak and a 5-5 record is a step in the right direction, especially for a team that could have won 2 or 3 of the games they lost (of course, they could have lost 2 or 3 of the games they won, as well) - great final game of his career for john flanagan...rampage ran all over the captains for 160 yards and 3 tds

first win ever at pomoco for the monarchs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 10, 2012, 09:57:51 PM
kelchner not exactly verbose tonight...obviously not very happy...seriously - don't let him go anywhere near any bridges for the next 24 hours - i don't know that i've ever heard a head coach so down and negative after a loss...

not to disparage coach kelchner, but that's one of the things i love about coach e...mu lost some heart-breaking games early in the season - the 1 point loss to gc when the receiver has the game winner in his hands in the endzone with nobody 5 yards from him...the 4 point loss to maryville when the kicker missed 3 xp's and a 26 yard fg and the 8 point loss to ferrum when mu had the ball inside the fc 15 twice and came away with 0 points - yet he stayed positive and upbeat in post-game situations, talking about learning from mistakes and getting better each week...i think that kind of attitude trickles down to the team, and was a big reason why the monarchs were able to pull out 3 close wins to close the season...hopefully some of this momentum carries through to the spring and fall!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: @d3jason on November 10, 2012, 10:14:53 PM
Impressive drive by the Monarchs to take the lead.

Huge play on CNU's ensuing driving by theMonarch LB on the screen pass with the Captains on 3rd and 1 1/2. Not sure about the CNU play call on fourth down.

Kelchner knows he's headed somewhere unpleasant like Belton, Dover or Alliance.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2012, 10:22:43 PM
Narch is the man!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2012, 10:28:15 PM
Next week is gonna be ugly. This season was ugly. 2 conference losses....both at home. This conference is weak. If CNU heads to Alliance, what's over/under? 80? 

Narch - your boys have some size.....especially RB. I would not want to tackle those guys!!

Kelchner was down.... and you're right, it is one thing to be down after a tough loss....it's another to sound defeated!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 10, 2012, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: @d3jason on November 10, 2012, 10:14:53 PMHuge play on CNU's ensuing driving by theMonarch LB on the screen pass with the Captains on 3rd and 1 1/2. Not sure about the CNU play call on fourth down.
that was a great play...maybe a game-winner...that middle screen had been effective for the captains, and conyers sniffed it out

thanks for the shout-out, '85, but all i did was wear my lucky mu shirt and cheer for my boys to get to 5-5 :)

i know that kelchner and cnu have bigger vision than most in the usasac, but i'd take 6-4 and dancing...hell, i'm excited about 5-5 and season over because of where mu has been the last few years
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 10, 2012, 11:14:19 PM
check out the day the gc qb and wr thorpe had...throndset - 598 yards, 4 td's, thorpe - 22 catches, 391 yards, 3 td's

that's a good month for most guys...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2012, 08:30:19 PM
the captains got the draw i expected with muc...go captains :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 11, 2012, 09:20:11 PM
yikes!!!!!!  MT Union!! Playing with the big boys!!

Go Captains!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 11, 2012, 09:25:35 PM
cnu, if you have never been the trip to mount is fun.  from what i saw yesterday the captains are in for a long day.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2012, 09:28:13 PM
i realize this is a bit late, but i'd like to give a big thank you to admiralpapi, rocket and abnrgr and all other vets/active duty service members for all they do to allow us to have the freedom to watch, discuss and analyze d3 football!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 12, 2012, 11:06:40 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 11, 2012, 09:25:35 PM
cnu, if you have never been the trip to mount is fun.  from what i saw yesterday the captains are in for a long day.

Been there and done that.........Mt. Union is not where you want to be... However, the people there are great and as friendly as anywhere you will go. The drive is long and if you go Penn. Turnpike, be carefull. Easier to go over to Charleston and go up 77. Either way, its a long haul.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: purpled on November 12, 2012, 06:40:31 PM
For all of you CNU fans coming to Alliance, welcome! Alliance is a small town so don't expect too much. :) We have a Holiday Inn Express and a Super 8 plus some very good places to eat. But if you come up 77 you'll drive into Canton which has a variety of hotels/motels to stay in. Canton is about 20 minutes west of Alliance. But whatever you do, have a safe trip! And keep an eye on the weather up here as you'll be in the open stands which can get windy and cold.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: seadog2 on November 12, 2012, 07:30:37 PM
Those CNU fans that will be making the trip to Alliance and are looking for a place to eat, you have a place that is easy to find. You can come park your car or bus and join all us Raider fans at the student center for an all you care to eat breakfast/lunch buffet. The cost is $7.50 and trust me, you will be treated with respect and no hassle will be given. A very friendly crowd and glad to share experiences with you. They usually open around 10 or 10:30, allowing for a time to eat and it's right next door to the stadium. Thought I would pass it along and hope to see many of you there for the waffles, eggs, sandwiches, sausage, homemade donuts, you name it, they got it. Safe travel to all, no matter the mode of transportation.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 12, 2012, 10:51:16 PM
Wow! Great hospitality. I wish I could make the trip! Sounds like a great time and a great fan base! I would love to see the game. I did go to the 2007 Stagg Bowl and saw the Purple Raiders. Good luck Captains. I'm sure there will be a few people going. I'm sure the school is trying to find level of interest of students for buses. Alliance is a bit further than Hampden Sydney, but we had 4 buses going plus all of us in cars. I expect CNU will have a decent showing of fans.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 13, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 12, 2012, 10:51:16 PM
Wow! Great hospitality. I wish I could make the trip! Sounds like a great time and a great fan base! I would love to see the game. I did go to the 2007 Stagg Bowl and saw the Purple Raiders. Good luck Captains. I'm sure there will be a few people going. I'm sure the school is trying to find level of interest of students for buses. Alliance is a bit further than Hampden Sydney, but we had 4 buses going plus all of us in cars. I expect CNU will have a decent showing of fans.

I haven't been but everything I've heard is UMU is first class for visiting playoff teams and fans off the field and in the stands. On the field, they don't seem to be as kind... Of course, they probably have more experience then anyone else hosting and a lot of experience being magnanimous in victory!

While I'd love to experience the hospitality, I think it will be small consolation to Captains fans...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on November 13, 2012, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: seadog2 on November 12, 2012, 07:30:37 PM
Those CNU fans that will be making the trip to Alliance and are looking for a place to eat, you have a place that is easy to find. You can come park your car or bus and join all us Raider fans at the student center for an all you care to eat breakfast/lunch buffet. The cost is $7.50 and trust me, you will be treated with respect and no hassle will be given. A very friendly crowd and glad to share experiences with you. They usually open around 10 or 10:30, allowing for a time to eat and it's right next door to the stadium. Thought I would pass it along and hope to see many of you there for the waffles, eggs, sandwiches, sausage, homemade donuts, you name it, they got it. Safe travel to all, no matter the mode of transportation.

Speaking as some one who has enjoyed this meal and Mount's hospitality in 2004 when my son's UMHB team went (and won ;)) at Mount Union, I can vouch personally for this.  My wife and I had a great meal and were heartily welcomed.  Check it out if you get the chance!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 13, 2012, 05:27:54 PM
Quote from: roocru on November 13, 2012, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: seadog2 on November 12, 2012, 07:30:37 PM
Those CNU fans that will be making the trip to Alliance and are looking for a place to eat, you have a place that is easy to find. You can come park your car or bus and join all us Raider fans at the student center for an all you care to eat breakfast/lunch buffet. The cost is $7.50 and trust me, you will be treated with respect and no hassle will be given. A very friendly crowd and glad to share experiences with you. They usually open around 10 or 10:30, allowing for a time to eat and it's right next door to the stadium. Thought I would pass it along and hope to see many of you there for the waffles, eggs, sandwiches, sausage, homemade donuts, you name it, they got it. Safe travel to all, no matter the mode of transportation.

Speaking as some one who has enjoyed this meal and Mount's hospitality in 2004 when my son's UMHB team went (and won ;)) at Mount Union, I can vouch personally for this.  My wife and I had a great meal and were heartily welcomed.  Check it out if you get the chance!!

will also vouch for the fine mount folks.  have made several trips to mount and enjoyed all visits.  now it does not hurt that i have been bribed with margaritas for breakfast at don pablos. ;)  i have heard about the breakfast at mount and it receives rave reviews.  certainlay chekc it out if you are there.  good luck and safe travels if you go.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: purpled on November 13, 2012, 06:19:40 PM
CNU fans...which players should we be looking out for and their jersey numbers? Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 13, 2012, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: purpled on November 13, 2012, 06:19:40 PM
CNU fans...which players should we be looking out for and their jersey numbers? Thanks!

Tongue in cheek response required when a 6-4 team has to go to Mount in Rd 1....

Will it really matter what the numbers are after CNU's first offensive series creates grass stains so thick you can't read them??

Ok. Sorry. I'll let real Captain's fans provide a legitimate answer now...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 13, 2012, 09:47:45 PM
the cnu qb #13 is an effective runner - i think he started the year as the top rb - but he won't hurt you with his arm - they've got a wr who is quick, but doesn't have great hands and another who has great hands but isn't quick :) (if i remember from the broadcast, the kid with good hands was a all-american in the decathlon) - on defense the db's play way off and they aren't really big up front, but they seem to have solid speed
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: theaprof on November 14, 2012, 05:48:03 AM
Quote from: jknezek on November 13, 2012, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: purpled on November 13, 2012, 06:19:40 PM
CNU fans...which players should we be looking out for and their jersey numbers? Thanks!

Tongue in cheek response required when a 6-4 team has to go to Mount in Rd 1....

Will it really matter what the numbers are after CNU's first offensive series creates grass stains so thick you can't read them??

Ok. Sorry. I'll let real Captain's fans provide a legitimate answer now...

We have turf, so no grass stains--unless they forget to wash their uniforms this week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 14, 2012, 08:45:53 AM
Dang plastic grass ruining my perfectly bad joke...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2012, 10:25:28 AM
Sure, lemme just lay out which weapons are most effective for us. Would you like a copy of our playbook and play calling tendencies as well?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: skunks_sidekick on November 14, 2012, 11:18:56 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2012, 10:25:28 AM
Sure, lemme just lay out which weapons are most effective for us. Would you like a copy of our playbook and play calling tendencies as well?

Yah.......because with our mad coaching skills, we will be able to give LK all kinds of insight based upon what we are told on this thread.   ::)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PurpleSuit on November 14, 2012, 11:50:17 AM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2012, 10:25:28 AM
Sure, lemme just lay out which weapons are most effective for us. Would you like a copy of our playbook and play calling tendencies as well?

How about we give you a copy of Mount's and maybe then your team can put a couple of points on the scoreboard on Saturday
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Blutarsky on November 14, 2012, 12:11:33 PM
Please ignore "Purplesuit".......sometimes he gets a little too puffed up.  Looking forward to a good game, regardless of whether we exchange playbooks.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2012, 01:33:21 PM
usasac all-conference teams are announced (http://www.usasouth.net/sports/fball/2012-13/releases/12fballconfawards)...no real surprises and nothing to debate, in my mind...i was a little surprised that gibson was not on the first-team, but looking at conference only numbers reveals that he gained over 100 yards less vs. conference teams than dukes/felder did and had the lowest ypc average among the three (although he did have 4 more td's than dukes in conference games) - i personally would have put bevans (biased opinion) and russell ahead of rudolph at wr, but the fact that those two had better qb's throwing them the ball may have swayed voters against them...being a #2 wr on a throwing team might not be as good as being a #1 wr on a running team, i guess - i know if i were starting a team, bevans' size (6'5")/speed combo would be attractive

here are the major awards

reynolds opoty and 1st team qb
carter from lagrange dpoty (i thought wade might have a chance with 13.5 sacks, 12.5 in conf, but carter had a great year on one of the best defenses in the conference)
dukes from cnu oroty
johnson from m'ville droty
young from gc coty

fc and cnu get 7 first-teamers - fc with a total of 14 and cnu with a total of 19

mu had 4 first-teamers and 13 overall all-conf performers

all 3 all-conference qb's are sophomores...should be an interesting remaining two years between those three
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: purpled on November 14, 2012, 05:53:54 PM
Hmmm...tough crowd. Just wanted to know a few of the players from a few fans... Obviously Mount is a heavy favorite but anything can happen.  ;D

Saturday is looking to be sunny and around 50.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: rscl70 on November 14, 2012, 06:20:20 PM
Mount Union game notes:  http://athletics.mountunion.edu/sports/fball/2012-13/files/12fbgamenotes-ncaa-1strd.pdf
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2012, 09:04:42 PM
The umu defensive numbers are crazy...I'm starting to think cnu may get shut out
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: theaprof on November 14, 2012, 09:06:02 PM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2012, 09:04:42 PM
The umu defensive numbers are crazy...I'm starting to think cnu may get shut out

May???  I'd almost be willing to put serious money on it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2012, 08:20:03 AM
Quote from: theaprof on November 14, 2012, 09:06:02 PM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2012, 09:04:42 PM
The umu defensive numbers are crazy...I'm starting to think cnu may get shut out

May???  I'd almost be willing to put serious money on it.
aren't we saying the same thing here...if you were sure of a shutout, you'd be willing, not almost willing :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on November 15, 2012, 08:28:47 AM
Congrats to Coach Young and The Pride.

Great foundation season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SUADC on November 15, 2012, 08:31:41 AM
Quote from: narch on November 15, 2012, 08:20:03 AM
Quote from: theaprof on November 14, 2012, 09:06:02 PM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2012, 09:04:42 PM
The umu defensive numbers are crazy...I'm starting to think cnu may get shut out

May???  I'd almost be willing to put serious money on it.
aren't we saying the same thing here...if you were sure of a shutout, you'd be willing, not almost willing :)

You never know what a game entails. This could easily be the Capains postgame speech.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWmQbk5h86w
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: theaprof on November 15, 2012, 09:11:55 AM
Quote from: SUADC on November 15, 2012, 08:31:41 AM
Quote from: narch on November 15, 2012, 08:20:03 AM
Quote from: theaprof on November 14, 2012, 09:06:02 PM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2012, 09:04:42 PM
The umu defensive numbers are crazy...I'm starting to think cnu may get shut out

May???  I'd almost be willing to put serious money on it.
aren't we saying the same thing here...if you were sure of a shutout, you'd be willing, not almost willing :)

You never know what a game entails. This could easily be the Capains postgame speech.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWmQbk5h86w

Which is why, beyond the fact that I don't have serious money to fritter away like that, I am unwilling to commit to either a shutout or even a blowout.  Hell, I realize that it is even within the realm of possibility that UMU could lose.  YEAH, RIGHT!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 15, 2012, 09:24:10 AM
Long time since I seen the Purple Dogs skulking about out of their lane talking "cash shi%". As my Great Grandmother used to say (on the hillbillie side). I never understood the Sicilian side

Man..... theaprof is ready for some fun

Admittedly CNU will be eviserated short of a TLAM strike at "the Mount"

I like Blutaski's avatar.

Anyway you guy sound like a lot of fun but Narch is the Cicero of this board and he must be treated as such..... ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 15, 2012, 11:04:23 AM
BTW everyone I was just stirring the pot to get people pumped.  :)

Except about Narch ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BillyRayJimBob on November 15, 2012, 12:24:31 PM
I was assigned to Langley AFB at the time that CNU officially began its football program in 2001.  I was excited for the school because it was D3, and I remember listening to the Oyster Bowl win over Ferrum that launched the Captains into the playoffs after that inaugural season.  Ever since, I have been a geographically-separated fan and follower  ... no way that I could EVER cheer against the Captains ... UNLESS they square off against my beloved Purple Raiders!!!

Side Story:  During that time, my son gave the York H.S. football coach a Mount Union Purple Raider Football t-shirt; I believe it was following Mount Union's 2000 national championship, and the T-shirt listed all the championship years up to that point.  I saw Coach Ashley wearing it one evening at the school, and I made a comment, something to the effect of, "Nice shirt!"  Coach responded that he had it on one day when he was over at CNU, and Coach Kelchner saw it, pointed to it, and said, something to the effect of, "We want to be there someday!"  (I think he meant as a national champion and/or perennial D3 powerhouse, and not just "there," as in Alliance, like this Saturday! LOL!!)  So, should CNU ever get "too big for their britches" (in the future), I may just have to root against the Captains during a playoff run should they look to be a threat to Mount Union!!!

As for the drive to the D3 Football Center of the Universe:  I made that trip between York County and Alliance many, many times between 1999 and 2002, and it never got shorter or easier!  We would always jump off I-95 onto US-17 in Fredericksburg, and take that to I-66, to I-81, to I-70, to the PA Turnpike.  We also found route 522 between Winchester and Hancock, MD, to be a change of pace and seemed to save some time ... but not always.  Route 522 then connects you with I-70, and on to the PA Turnpike.  You can try I-68 to Morgantown, WV, and then up I-79 to various jumping-off points into Ohio, but it is a bit longer; however, it will save the turnpike tolls (round-trip for me last weekend was about $31.00).  I would only take the routing around Washington, D.C. if it was a holiday/weekend ... or dead of night.

I would like to be present and enjoy the game with you, but I am going to show my Purple Raider confidence and "scout" the Washington & Jefferson-Johns Hopkins game in Baltimore, instead (about 25 miles from where I live now), and then follow that winner to their "beat down" in Alliance the following Saturday.  (Now...  I just gotta see if the W&J faithful will let me sit with them ... wearing purple and all ... and it will NOT be that "Baltiless Raisins" shade of lavender-purple!!!)

Best wishes ... and safe travels ... to you all!   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Blutarsky on November 15, 2012, 12:54:13 PM
To be honest, the UMU defense may be even a little better than the statistics indicate......many times, late in games, points were scored when Mount was playing 3,4,5 level players.  With the playoff roster limitations, that can't occur.  There has been some serious conversation on the OAC boards about whether Mount's #2's could compete for the league championship.  Having been around the program for awhile (and having a son graduate in '10), it's an amazing situation--with a legendary coach.  I wish everyone "safe travels".....hope to have a good showing for the game.  Good Luck!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: theaprof on November 15, 2012, 01:28:09 PM
Quote from: BillyRayJimBob on November 15, 2012, 12:24:31 PM
I was assigned to Langley AFB at the time that CNU officially began its football program in 2001.  I was excited for the school because it was D3, and I remember listening to the Oyster Bowl win over Ferrum that launched the Captains into the playoffs after that inaugural season.  Ever since, I have been a geographically-separated fan and follower  ... no way that I could EVER cheer against the Captains ... UNLESS they square off against my beloved Purple Raiders!!!

Side Story:  During that time, my son gave the York H.S. football coach a Mount Union Purple Raider Football t-shirt; I believe it was following Mount Union's 2000 national championship, and the T-shirt listed all the championship years up to that point.  I saw Coach Ashley wearing it one evening at the school, and I made a comment, something to the effect of, "Nice shirt!"  Coach responded that he had it on one day when he was over at CNU, and Coach Kelchner saw it, pointed to it, and said, something to the effect of, "We want to be there someday!"  (I think he meant as a national champion and/or perennial D3 powerhouse, and not just "there," as in Alliance, like this Saturday! LOL!!)  So, should CNU ever get "too big for their britches" (in the future), I may just have to root against the Captains during a playoff run should they look to be a threat to Mount Union!!!

BTW...  It will be a tough loss for CNU should Coach Kelchner earn the Loch Haven position, but sometimes you gotta lose good men in order to realize/discover other good men.

As for the drive to the D3 Football Center of the Universe:  I made that trip between York County and Alliance many, many times between 1999 and 2002, and it never got shorter or easier!  We would always jump off I-95 onto US-17 in Fredericksburg, and take that to I-66, to I-81, to I-70, to the PA Turnpike.  We also found route 522 between Winchester and Hancock, MD, to be a change of pace and seemed to save some time ... but not always.  Route 522 then connects you with I-70, and on to the PA Turnpike.  You can try I-68 to Morgantown, WV, and then up I-79 to various jumping-off points into Ohio, but it is a bit longer; however, it will save the turnpike tolls (round-trip for me last weekend was about $31.00).  I would only take the routing around Washington, D.C. if it was a holiday/weekend ... or dead of night.

I would like to be present and enjoy the game with you, but I am going to show my Purple Raider confidence and "scout" the Washington & Jefferson-Johns Hopkins game in Baltimore, instead (about 25 miles from where I live now), and then follow that winner to their "beat down" in Alliance the following Saturday.  (Now...  I just gotta see if the W&J faithful will let me sit with them ... wearing purple and all ... and it will NOT be that "Baltiless Raisins" shade of lavender-purple!!!)

Best wishes ... and safe travels ... to you all!   

I agree on the route.  My daughter is at W&M Law School, so we make the trip quite often--I would recommend the 522 route from Winchester up to 70 in PA.  We figure 9 hours from Alliance to Williamsburg.  The worst part of the trip is always 95 from Richmond to Fredricksburg.

Good Luck and Safe Travels!!  Having been born in KY and lived seven years in Virginia myself, I hope to meet some of y'all at the tailgate.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2012, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: Blutarsky on November 15, 2012, 12:54:13 PM
To be honest, the UMU defense may be even a little better than the statistics indicate......
that's scary...they gave up 4.5 ppg and they might be better than that statistically - they give up under 160 yards per game - they're #1 vs. the run AND pass...is there any way cnu could score negative points ???

what is the over/under on how many times cnu crosses the 50? if vegas sets it at 3, i think theaprof will lay down some cash :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Raider 68 on November 15, 2012, 01:54:56 PM
From theaprof

"I agree on the route.  My daughter is at W&M Law School, so we make the trip quite often--I would recommend the 522 route from Winchester up to 70 in PA.  We figure 9 hours from Alliance to Williamsburg.  The worst part of the trip is always 95 from Richmond to Fredricksburg.

Good Luck and Safe Travels!!  Having been born in KY and lived seven years in Virginia myself, I hope to meet some of y'all at the tailgate."

theaprof,

Having traveled to Williamsburg for years and having been stationed in Norfolk many years
ago, the route you suggested to our upcoming visitors is the shortest, fastest and most
scenic! :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PurpleSuit on November 15, 2012, 02:13:28 PM
Quote from: narch on November 15, 2012, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: Blutarsky on November 15, 2012, 12:54:13 PM
To be honest, the UMU defense may be even a little better than the statistics indicate......
that's scary...they gave up 4.5 ppg and they might be better than that statistically - they give up under 160 yards per game - they're #1 vs. the run AND pass...is there any way cnu could score negative points ???

what is the over/under on how many times cnu crosses the 50? if vegas sets it at 3, i think theaprof will lay down some cash :)

with the reduced playoff rosters, I'll take the under
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Captain Bob on November 15, 2012, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2012, 10:25:28 AM
Sure, lemme just lay out which weapons are most effective for us. Would you like a copy of our playbook and play calling tendencies as well?

They could just watch the game film if they wanted, no need to get rude.

Dukes and Morrast are the most powerful weapons, followed by Stovall and Noel.

Moog is a guy to watch out for on defense, along with Navarro sneaking into the backfield.

As for play calling, look for us to run it up the middle twice, then either to the outside or a short pass attempt before punting.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: theaprof on November 15, 2012, 03:04:56 PM
Quote from: narch on November 15, 2012, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: Blutarsky on November 15, 2012, 12:54:13 PM
To be honest, the UMU defense may be even a little better than the statistics indicate......
that's scary...they gave up 4.5 ppg and they might be better than that statistically - they give up under 160 yards per game - they're #1 vs. the run AND pass...is there any way cnu could score negative points ???

what is the over/under on how many times cnu crosses the 50? if vegas sets it at 3, i think theaprof will lay down some cash :)

It depends on how much cash. ::) ::)

Actually, while I understand that my earlier comment could be considered a little snarky, it wasn't meant to be.  I do really understand that the game must be played on Saturday and no one will know the outcome before that. And, while I am very confident in our team and especially our defense, I know that one blown coverage or one bad bounce could mean an awful lot in a playoff game.

Good luck to all--safe travels if you are heading this way--and let's hope for no injuries on either team!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: skunks_sidekick on November 15, 2012, 04:20:13 PM
Quote from: Captain Bob on November 15, 2012, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: crazylegs33 on November 14, 2012, 10:25:28 AM
Sure, lemme just lay out which weapons are most effective for us. Would you like a copy of our playbook and play calling tendencies as well?

They could just watch the game film if they wanted, no need to get rude.

Dukes and Morrast are the most powerful weapons, followed by Stovall and Noel.

Moog is a guy to watch out for on defense, along with Navarro sneaking into the backfield.

As for play calling, look for us to run it up the middle twice, then either to the outside or a short pass attempt before punting.

Thanks for the info Captain Bob.......and a great sense of humor.   ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HScoach on November 15, 2012, 06:25:21 PM
Quote from: Blutarsky on November 15, 2012, 12:54:13 PM
To be honest, the UMU defense may be even a little better than the statistics indicate......many times, late in games, points were scored when Mount was playing 3,4,5 level players.  With the playoff roster limitations, that can't occur.  There has been some serious conversation on the OAC boards about whether Mount's #2's could compete for the league championship.  Having been around the program for awhile (and having a son graduate in '10), it's an amazing situation--with a legendary coach.  I wish everyone "safe travels".....hope to have a good showing for the game.  Good Luck!

Not to be nit picky, but the most of the points have been scored on the starting defense.  Here's the 4 games that Mount has been scored upon:

Franklin:  7 points against the 2nd D
Heidelberg:  7 points against starters on opening drive / 7 on 2nd D in closing seconds
Baldwin Wallace:  7 points against starters in early 2nd quarter
John Carroll:   10 points against starters in first quarter & 7 points early 2nd quarter

Starters = 31 pts
Reserves = 14 pts

If anything, you're best chance to score is early.  The more Mount sees your offense, the better the defense has typically played this season.



Safe travels to all those heading to Alliance.   Hope you really enjoy your trip. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: UMUplayerdad on November 15, 2012, 06:58:06 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 15, 2012, 06:25:21 PM
Quote from: Blutarsky on November 15, 2012, 12:54:13 PM
To be honest, the UMU defense may be even a little better than the statistics indicate......many times, late in games, points were scored when Mount was playing 3,4,5 level players.  With the playoff roster limitations, that can't occur.  There has been some serious conversation on the OAC boards about whether Mount's #2's could compete for the league championship.  Having been around the program for awhile (and having a son graduate in '10), it's an amazing situation--with a legendary coach.  I wish everyone "safe travels".....hope to have a good showing for the game.  Good Luck!

Not to be nit picky, but the most of the points have been scored on the starting defense.  Here's the 4 games that Mount has been scored upon:

Franklin:  7 points against the 2nd D
Heidelberg:  7 points against starters on opening drive / 7 on 2nd D in closing seconds
Baldwin Wallace:  7 points against starters in early 2nd quarter
John Carroll:   10 points against starters in first quarter & 7 points early 2nd quarter

Starters = 31 pts
Reserves = 14 pts

If anything, you're best chance to score is early.  The more Mount sees your offense, the better the defense has typically played this season.



Safe travels to all those heading to Alliance.   Hope you really enjoy your trip.

and words can't describe how bizzare and gift wrapped the second touchdown at heidelberg was...... not to pick the fly poop outta the pepper but that TD wasnt legit
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2012, 10:44:16 PM
Quote from: Blutarsky on November 14, 2012, 12:11:33 PM
Please ignore "Purplesuit".......sometimes he gets a little too puffed up.  Looking forward to a good game, regardless of whether we exchange playbooks.

Actually, I thought it was funny!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2012, 10:45:24 PM
I just heard that City Council for Alliance voted to change the name of the town to Woodshed, Ohio. There have been a lot of beatings up there!! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 15, 2012, 10:45:58 PM
What's this chatter about Loch Haven?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HScoach on November 16, 2012, 06:59:15 AM
Quote from: UMUplayerdad on November 15, 2012, 06:58:06 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 15, 2012, 06:25:21 PM
Quote from: Blutarsky on November 15, 2012, 12:54:13 PM
To be honest, the UMU defense may be even a little better than the statistics indicate......many times, late in games, points were scored when Mount was playing 3,4,5 level players.  With the playoff roster limitations, that can't occur.  There has been some serious conversation on the OAC boards about whether Mount's #2's could compete for the league championship.  Having been around the program for awhile (and having a son graduate in '10), it's an amazing situation--with a legendary coach.  I wish everyone "safe travels".....hope to have a good showing for the game.  Good Luck!

Not to be nit picky, but the most of the points have been scored on the starting defense.  Here's the 4 games that Mount has been scored upon:

Franklin:  7 points against the 2nd D
Heidelberg:  7 points against starters on opening drive / 7 on 2nd D in closing seconds
Baldwin Wallace:  7 points against starters in early 2nd quarter
John Carroll:   10 points against starters in first quarter & 7 points early 2nd quarter

Starters = 31 pts
Reserves = 14 pts

If anything, you're best chance to score is early.  The more Mount sees your offense, the better the defense has typically played this season.



Safe travels to all those heading to Alliance.   Hope you really enjoy your trip.

and words can't describe how bizzare and gift wrapped the second touchdown at heidelberg was...... not to pick the fly poop outta the pepper but that TD wasnt legit

True, but it helps to offset the other scores that Mount was fortunate to have not surrendered, such as the 79 yd ONU pass against the #3's in the last minute.  Or the botched 29 yd FG attempt by Capital on the final play to break the shutout.

The key point is that the Mount defense is very good.  They're undersized up front, but extremely fast and aggressive.  CNU will be fortunate to move the ball with any consistency.  Scoring more than once it probably going to be tough. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BillyRayJimBob on November 16, 2012, 01:12:19 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 15, 2012, 10:45:58 PM
What's this chatter about Loch Haven?

A mistake; an old story that popped up first in Google!, with yesterday's date.  Even at the Daily Press web site I only saw the date on the banner, and not on the story.
My bad!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: UMUplayerdad on November 16, 2012, 03:50:41 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 16, 2012, 06:59:15 AM
Quote from: UMUplayerdad on November 15, 2012, 06:58:06 PM
Quote from: HScoach on November 15, 2012, 06:25:21 PM
Quote from: Blutarsky on November 15, 2012, 12:54:13 PM

True, but it helps to offset the other scores that Mount was fortunate to have not surrendered, such as the 79 yd ONU pass against the #3's in the last minute.  Or the botched 29 yd FG attempt by Capital on the final play to break the shutout.

The key point is that the Mount defense is very good.  They're undersized up front, but extremely fast and aggressive.  CNU will be fortunate to move the ball with any consistency.  Scoring more than once it probably going to be tough.

HScoach, I got a question, in the 4 seasons I really been paying attention,  I can't recall a what I would describe a BIG defensive line at UMU, sure, I've seen a few players that were good sized(one tall one and one thick one got swiped by the O-line this year-a big reason for more consistent O-line performance) ANYWAY, I assume at some point LK had big "traditional" sized D-lines. Was it a conscious decision to go smaller/faster philosophy? My kid's high school coach did that, went fast/small(a 5'7" 160 lb nose tackle-that made all state for example)    obviously not complaining and the results speak for themselves. That said, some OAC still go with 4 big boys on D-line.... you seem to be a historian on the program.......thought you might know
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HScoach on November 16, 2012, 05:27:56 PM
^ The philosophy changed when Vince took over the defense from Don Montgomery.  And the D today is light years ahead of where it was in the 1990's.  Mount used to be winning in spite of their defense.  There winning now because of it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: purpled on November 16, 2012, 06:47:13 PM
I'll second that HScoach...this defense is so quick to the ball and will just keep coming at you. If you don't have any imagination on offense...forgetaboutit!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: theaprof on November 16, 2012, 07:06:51 PM
Hello???  Is there anybody else out there from CNU???  



Seems to just be us UMU guys, one or two CNU fans, and some guy from another Methodist school who doesn't seem to like me very much (although I am really a very charming fellow, just ask me ;))

I guess we'll have to wait til next week for any good smack talk.

See everyone at the game tomorrow!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 16, 2012, 07:49:57 PM
There just aren't very many Captains fans on the boards. A couple here and there. But very few teams have more than a few guys active. Very few of the boards are active at all this late in the year since people tend to mostly drop off once their team is eliminated. I know that's a hard concept for UMU guys...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: theaprof on November 16, 2012, 09:56:38 PM
I was wondering after your comment who was the champion for most voracious posting on this site.  If I didn't miss anything too big it looks like in ascending order it goes something like this:

8.  Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference--1057 pages
7.  College Conference of Illinois Wisconsin--1815 pages
6.  Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference--2123 pages
5.  Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference--2540 pages
4.  Ohio Athletic Conference (Mainly UMU)--2622 pages
3.  Empire 8 Conference--3103 pages
2.  Liberty League--3103 pages

and the champion for most posts!!!!

1.  Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference--4104 pages

Now--if we take the number of pages and divide it by the number of national championships in the region and mulitply that by the square root of the shoe sizes of the linemen on each of the teams....we come up with a totally worthless number!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2012, 08:09:26 AM
Quote from: theaprof on November 16, 2012, 07:06:51 PMSeems to just be us UMU guys, one or two CNU fans, and some guy from another Methodist school who doesn't seem to like me very much (although I am really a very charming fellow, just ask me ;))
i don't dislike you in any way...my feelings for jknezek, now that's a different story (i kid :))

this board has evolved into a relatively civil place for a handful of usasac fans to discuss games and players...sometimes it's just me posting in a vacuum - in the early days, there was more "smack talk", but i think most of us have grown up a bit - plus, i think the few cnu fans who post are resigned to the fact that their team might be the worst in the field this year, and they happen to be facing the team that's probably the best - tough to talk smack when you're in that position
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 17, 2012, 08:18:13 AM
Quote from: narch on November 17, 2012, 08:09:26 AM
Quote from: theaprof on November 16, 2012, 07:06:51 PMSeems to just be us UMU guys, one or two CNU fans, and some guy from another Methodist school who doesn't seem to like me very much (although I am really a very charming fellow, just ask me ;))
i don't dislike you in any way...my feelings for jknezek, now that's a different story (i kid :))

I don't know. One little disagreement over the strength of the USAC vs the ODAC and this is what I get? I see how it is. Seriously, good luck to the underdogs today. Mainly because my Generals are one, but also because it's just fun when they win a few.

and narch... +K. good one.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2012, 09:39:12 AM
SMACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone happier now? bahahahaha
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2012, 09:42:56 AM
Used to be a more active board. CNU had tons of supporters on here. Goose, me, Captj, Swish, and i know i'm missing a few more.....old age creeping in....forgetting is commonplace. Turning 50 sucks!

Once the game is over I may tell story of what I told my class on campus Wednesday night and the discussion I had last week with one of the football players in the library. Or I may go over to the hoops board and talk SMACK!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2012, 12:37:00 PM
28-7 at end of 1st qt. Gonna be a long day. But CNU had a nice drive in the qt. 76 yards i think
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 17, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
72-14 final! Wooohooo.....we score twice on the beast!! bahahaha
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2012, 10:11:36 PM
Just looked at the box and its official...anyone who had the under 3 on cnu crossing the umu 50 can collect their money :)

That being said, I do wish the monarchs had been the team in the dance...even if it was a beat down
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2012, 09:49:01 AM
Hey- we crossed it all the time on punt coverage!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 19, 2012, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 18, 2012, 09:49:01 AM
Hey- we crossed it all the time on punt coverage!!!
+1! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on December 05, 2012, 08:50:37 PM
congrats to mu defensive end brad wade on  his d3football.com all-region selection

http://www.mumonarchs.com/news/2012/12/5/FB_1205122357.aspx

all teams are here http://d3football.com/awards/all-region/index
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 20, 2012, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: theaprof on November 14, 2012, 05:48:03 AM
Quote from: jknezek on November 13, 2012, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: purpled on November 13, 2012, 06:19:40 PM
CNU fans...which players should we be looking out for and their jersey numbers? Thanks!

Tongue in cheek response required when a 6-4 team has to go to Mount in Rd 1....

Will it really matter what the numbers are after CNU's first offensive series creates grass stains so thick you can't read them??

Ok. Sorry. I'll let real Captain's fans provide a legitimate answer now...

We have turf, so no grass stains--unless they forget to wash their uniforms this week.

Hey, long time no talk to........congrats on a great year to you and all the Mt. Union folks. I said earlier, Mt. Union is not where you want to play your playoff games. I guess now CNU knows what Averett felt like several years ago when we got slammed by the great and mighty. Hope this finds you and your family well. Have a great holiday. - Tom
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on December 20, 2012, 03:33:13 PM
Are there any Averett folks still on here........if so what is the outlook for next year? I know you can't keep M. Dunlevy down very long. I hear they have plans for a new stadium.....wow anything would be an improvment...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on December 30, 2012, 08:14:10 AM
 Was saddend to hear the news of the death of Ferum football player Zavier Stringfellow. Murdered on Friday. Fairfax County police have made an arrest. Thoughts and prayers go out to blackhat nation. And the Stringfellow family.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 01, 2013, 12:48:24 AM
More info on the Zavier Stringfellow case...

http://www.wtop.com/164/3175586/Police-calling-teens-death-homicide-make-arrest
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 01, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
My condolences as well go to the Stringfellow family and the Ferrum community.  Peace.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on January 03, 2013, 11:15:24 PM
Sad to hear the loss of life.

Awful news
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on January 17, 2013, 06:17:44 PM
With the new year, we can already look to the next season.

Who wins out on this ... interesting .. concept of playing all but one team with Huntingdon joining the fold? I know the prelim skeds indicate that Maryville and NC Wesleyan won't play each other this fall, which I think is to Wesleyan's advantage but depends  a lot on how big a leap NCW makes next season and if Huntingdon and LaGrange are as strong as they were this past year.

Who else is paired up to not play each other in 2013?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on January 17, 2013, 09:49:39 PM
Huntingdon doesn't play CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on February 03, 2013, 11:08:42 AM
Just wondering where you guys are getting the schedules? I have not seen any posted. Why would'nt they just reduce the non conference games to 2, and everyone plays everyone in conference?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on February 04, 2013, 09:59:53 AM
I was told that the majority voted to play seven conference games this season in order to honor existing non-conference contracts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 15, 2013, 09:15:50 PM
Mike Turk named Huntingdon's new Athletic Director. Will remain as Head Football Coach.

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2012-13/releases/201303154iph4h
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on March 17, 2013, 12:22:59 AM
Hawks88
DG drove over from the ATL, to the press conference. He said it was nice, Coach Turk seemed to embrace the new role, the team looks good, and they are optimistic for next year.
I hope we have a good showing in the conference next season.
I pray yall r well
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 27, 2013, 11:46:39 PM
big surprise at mu...coach eavenson is stepping down as head coach and moving into a position within athletic administration focusing on athletic fundraising, among other things - he'll do a GREAT job in that capacity and might be even more valuable to the university in that position - cj goss steps in as head coach...he's ready and he'll do great things for mu

http://www.mumonarchs.com/news/2013/3/27/BB_0327134811.aspx
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 29, 2013, 05:45:53 PM
CNU names Todd Brooks as new AD. I'm not happy about this at all. Jon Waters not only deserved the position, he earned it. He is the face of CNU athletics second only to CJ Woollum. He played on the basketball team as a student, was assistant coach for over 20 years, filled in as women's hoops coach for a year, successfully I add, was in the athletic administration, working up to the number 2 spot under CJ Woollum. At a time of transitioning to a new conference CNU needs stability. Many of CNU sports teams are nationally ranked. The system was developed by CJ and Jon Waters and the rest of the athletic department staff and coaches. I'm afraid this move may cause even more changes and some of them may not be all that great. I don't know Todd Brooks and I can't blame him for taking this position at CNU. It is a great move for him. I briefly looked at Berry College's athletic web site. The program has made some capital improvements but the information I see leaves many questions. The team performances do not impress me as a whole. He took over as interim women's basketball coach while he was AD. So what happened to the coach? Obviously, as a new Captain I wish Brooks much success. As far as I am concerned the jury is still out. And we will lose Jon Waters. He lives and breathes CNU, but he is ambitious and he will leave where he is not wanted. This is totally ridiculous. The ultimate definition of a travesty. Damn!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 11, 2013, 01:34:24 PM
New schedule posted by Huntingdon. Three challenging non-conference games. Looking forward to getting it started.

September   
Sat   14    at Mississippi Col.          6:00 PM   
Sat   21    Louisiana Col                 1:00 PM   
Sat   28    Ferrum *                        1:00 PM   
October   
Sat   5     at Wesley                      11:00 AM   
Sat   12    at Greensboro *          11:00 AM   
Sat   19    at LaGrange *              5:00 PM   
Sat   26    N.C. Wesleyan *          1:00 PM   
November   
Sat   2    at Averett *                  12:00 PM   
Sat   9    Methodist *                   1:00 PM   
Sat   16   Maryville (Tenn.) *        1:00 PM
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on May 05, 2013, 09:10:28 AM
Here is the 2013 LaGrange football schedule:

9/7 vs. Birmingham-Southern •  6:00 PM   
9/14 at Millsaps •  2:00 PM   
9/28 vs. Greensboro * •  1:00 PM   
10/5 at North Carolina Wesleyan * •  1:00 PM   
10/12 vs. Maryville (Tenn.) * •  1:00 PM   
10/19 vs. Huntingdon * •  6:00 PM   
10/26 at Methodist * •  1:00 PM   
11/2 vs. Christopher Newport * •  6:00 PM   
11/9 at Ferrum * •  1:00 PM   
11/16 at Averett * •  1:00 PM 


Looks like a tough stretch starting with Maryville on Oct. 12 through Ferrum on Nov. 9.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 19, 2013, 01:10:41 PM
Now that I'm retired from the game, I reckon I can post on here without wondering if the coaches will find out. I've been reading this board for a while now, but 6 weeks and no posts? I gotta get my fill on USAS football at least once a month..so I'll add my two cents. ;D
Now to the good stuff:  I noticed the other day that last season MC had the most seniors on the roster since going 7-3 in 07.  Looking at the number of juniors from last year who will more than likely be seniors this year (but we all know what the say about assuming..) from each team, I was shocked by the disparity in the numbers. This year I would be comfortable saying the top four teams of the conf are Maryville, CNU, Huntingdon, and Methodist.  MC will have 18 srs, CNU 26, Huntingdon 24, and MU 13.
The rest of the conf is Ferrum and Averett with 14, Greensboro with 13, and NCWC and LaGrange with 10.
Of course I may have miscounted.
What are yall's thoughts on this?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on June 19, 2013, 02:32:52 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on June 19, 2013, 01:10:41 PM
Now that I'm retired from the game, I reckon I can post on here without wondering if the coaches will find out. I've been reading this board for a while now, but 6 weeks and no posts? I gotta get my fill on USAS football at least once a month..so I'll add my two cents. ;D
Now to the good stuff:  I noticed the other day that last season MC had the most seniors on the roster since going 7-3 in 07.  Looking at the number of juniors from last year who will more than likely be seniors this year (but we all know what the say about assuming..) from each team, I was shocked by the disparity in the numbers. This year I would be comfortable saying the top four teams of the conf are Maryville, CNU, Huntingdon, and Methodist.  MC will have 18 srs, CNU 26, Huntingdon 24, and MU 13.
The rest of the conf is Ferrum and Averett with 14, Greensboro with 13, and NCWC and LaGrange with 10.
Of course I may have miscounted.
What are yall's thoughts on this?

IMHO opinion the number of seniors has a big play in how a team does in the following year, however it is the experience of thoses seniors that is key. I would put more emphasis on the number of seniors with considerable playing time as underclassmen. Yet, there are times that you may find a player that went under the radar as an underclassmen that makes an impact in their senior year.

Now, regarding how I have the USAS playing out.

Huntingdon
Ferrum
CNU
MU
NCWC
MV
LaGrange
Greensboro
AU

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 19, 2013, 02:47:27 PM
That's very true. I read on the Ferrum Football Report (which is very well written in my opinion) that they graduated 8 on defense and 5 on offense.  I wonder how that will affect the team, but they probably won't be hurt too awful bad.  Does anyone know how many starters are returning for each team?  MC returns something like 18 or 19 and 5 that saw significant time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 19, 2013, 07:55:50 PM
On defense we had the 4 starters on the d-line graduate but pretty much everyone else should be back. We play a lot of people on the d-line so we have good experience coming back plus the JV games I've seen the last couple of years we had some good looking d-linemen there so I'm not too worried about the defense. The D will need to be good early as on offense we had the QB, the RB, 3 of the top 4 receivers, the top two H-backs and two o-linemen graduate. Hopefully some of the young guys on that side can step in and get into sync pretty quick.

Ready for some football in Alabama!
Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 19, 2013, 08:31:46 PM
I'm sure Coach Turk will have those boys ready to roll by Week 1.  Kinda wish Maryville and HC were playing early in the season AT Maryville, but oh well..It'll be one of those game you have to circle on the calendar for fans of both schools. HC has a quality place to play. One of my favorites...even if it is in Alabama.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on June 20, 2013, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 19, 2013, 07:55:50 PM
On defense we had the 4 starters on the d-line graduate but pretty much everyone else should be back. We play a lot of people on the d-line so we have good experience coming back plus the JV games I've seen the last couple of years we had some good looking d-linemen there so I'm not too worried about the defense. The D will need to be good early as on offense we had the QB, the RB, 3 of the top 4 receivers, the top two H-backs and two o-linemen graduate. Hopefully some of the young guys on that side can step in and get into sync pretty quick.

Ready for some football in Alabama!
Go Hawks!

I think Huntingdon offense is systematic. They just need a quarterback that will make smart decisions withing the offense and not make untimely turnovers (i.e. Adrian & Wesley). If they find a player that can do that they should fair pretty well. The offense when run effectively is tough to stop. However, with those defensive lineman graduating, that may become cumbersome when playing against teams that effectively run the ball, their opponenent will be able to control the clock and take time away from the offense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 20, 2013, 11:57:56 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 19, 2013, 07:55:50 PM
On defense we had the 4 starters on the d-line graduate but pretty much everyone else should be back. We play a lot of people on the d-line so we have good experience coming back plus the JV games I've seen the last couple of years we had some good looking d-linemen there so I'm not too worried about the defense. The D will need to be good early as on offense we had the QB, the RB, 3 of the top 4 receivers, the top two H-backs and two o-linemen graduate. Hopefully some of the young guys on that side can step in and get into sync pretty quick.

Ready for some football in Alabama!
Go Hawks!
Aren't people in Alabama always ready for some football?  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 20, 2013, 12:59:26 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 20, 2013, 11:57:56 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 19, 2013, 07:55:50 PM
On defense we had the 4 starters on the d-line graduate but pretty much everyone else should be back. We play a lot of people on the d-line so we have good experience coming back plus the JV games I've seen the last couple of years we had some good looking d-linemen there so I'm not too worried about the defense. The D will need to be good early as on offense we had the QB, the RB, 3 of the top 4 receivers, the top two H-backs and two o-linemen graduate. Hopefully some of the young guys on that side can step in and get into sync pretty quick.

Ready for some football in Alabama!
Go Hawks!
Aren't people in Alabama always ready for some football?  :)

Yep. And I feel bad for some of the USAS teams. Given what I've seen from them playing the ODAC teams over the years, and given what I saw Huntingdon do playing Wesley last year, this could be ugly for some of those teams. We'll see. I still find it very entertaining that "somehow" the schedule does not include a Huntingdon vs CNU game this year. I know the deal was that not all teams would play each other to honor the OOC commitments and other reasons, but not to have those two teams play seems a gamble to try and have 2 highly ranked teams come season end. Legitimate, but awfully suspicious.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 20, 2013, 01:20:02 PM
Reminds me of when Catholic joined the ODAC for football and W&L was excused from playing them for the first year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 20, 2013, 02:24:31 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 20, 2013, 01:20:02 PM
Reminds me of when Catholic joined the ODAC for football and W&L was excused from playing them for the first year.

Fair enough. The difference is that at the time W&L was coming off a 4-6, 1-4 record in the ODAC and hadn't been ODAC championship relevant since 1985. Catholic certainly was ODAC relevant in '99, but they had to play the reigning champion (E&H) and simply missed one of the lower tier teams. CNU is coming off multiple conference championships and I think most of us expect Huntingdon to challenge for the USAS championship right from the get go. So yeah, Huntingdon is playing Catholic's role, but CNU isn't playing W&L's. I can see how you could draw the parallel, but it's not exactly the same thing...

Of course that also leaves out the comparative difficulties of making the NCAA tournament in the pre-AQ age, which again makes skipping the Huntingdon-CNU matchup much more important than skipping the W&L-Catholic game in '99. One would think if the USAS was really trying to find out who the best team in the conference was, Averett would be the missing competitor from both schedules, not the reigning heavyweight and the incoming challenger. From an SOS point of view, you'd think both teams would have preferred to play the game as well. Neither team shys away from hard games, so I just find the whole situation very surprising.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 20, 2013, 03:43:59 PM
This may be a move to get two teams ranked at the same time later in the season.  Obviously both teams are top 25 worthy most seasons, and let's face it...the USAS doesn't have many outsider's attention in football.  Having at least one of them ranked for a good portion of the season, or both, might help the conf overall in terms of regional and national attention.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 20, 2013, 03:47:13 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 20, 2013, 02:24:31 PM
One would think if the USAS was really trying to find out who the best team in the conference was, Averett would be the missing competitor from both schedules, not the reigning heavyweight and the incoming challenger. From an SOS point of view, you'd think both teams would have preferred to play the game as well. Neither team shys away from hard games, so I just find the whole situation very surprising.
You couldn't take Averett off of both schedules. Averett would then only have 6 conference games. It looks as though these are the matchups that are missing; Huntingdon doesn't play CNU, Ferrum doesn't play Methodist, Maryville doesn't play NC Wesleyan, and Averett doesn't play Greensboro. LaGrange is the only one that plays everyone. The thing that would be goofy besides two teams ending up undefeated would be if LaGrange and two other teams end up tied for first with one or two losses each. Would the 7-1 trump the two 6-1's or would the tie(?) be broken some other way?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 20, 2013, 04:00:10 PM
Averett can play the rest of the ODAC. They already have almost half the league on their schedule (sort of kidding, they have 3 OOC ODAC games). Good point though Hawks, didn't think that it was 2 games when I was typing it up. Should have been Averett and whoever finished second from the bottom missing from CNU and Huntingdon. I think the point I made is still valid, but for catching my silly mistake... +K
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on June 20, 2013, 04:03:40 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on June 20, 2013, 03:43:59 PM
Having at least one of them ranked for a good portion of the season, or both, might help the conf overall in terms of regional and national attention.

Teams would start having to play teams other than that of the ODAC for sure or the conference represenative win a playoff game or two.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 20, 2013, 04:28:18 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 20, 2013, 11:57:56 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 19, 2013, 07:55:50 PM
On defense we had the 4 starters on the d-line graduate but pretty much everyone else should be back. We play a lot of people on the d-line so we have good experience coming back plus the JV games I've seen the last couple of years we had some good looking d-linemen there so I'm not too worried about the defense. The D will need to be good early as on offense we had the QB, the RB, 3 of the top 4 receivers, the top two H-backs and two o-linemen graduate. Hopefully some of the young guys on that side can step in and get into sync pretty quick.

Ready for some football in Alabama!
Go Hawks!
Aren't people in Alabama always ready for some football?  :)
Yeah, I guess that statement was kind of redundant, huh? :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 20, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 20, 2013, 02:24:31 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 20, 2013, 01:20:02 PM
Reminds me of when Catholic joined the ODAC for football and W&L was excused from playing them for the first year.

Fair enough. The difference is that at the time W&L was coming off a 4-6, 1-4 record in the ODAC and hadn't been ODAC championship relevant since 1985. Catholic certainly was ODAC relevant in '99, but they had to play the reigning champion (E&H) and simply missed one of the lower tier teams. CNU is coming off multiple conference championships and I think most of us expect Huntingdon to challenge for the USAS championship right from the get go. So yeah, Huntingdon is playing Catholic's role, but CNU isn't playing W&L's. I can see how you could draw the parallel, but it's not exactly the same thing...

Of course that also leaves out the comparative difficulties of making the NCAA tournament in the pre-AQ age, which again makes skipping the Huntingdon-CNU matchup much more important than skipping the W&L-Catholic game in '99.

1999 is in the AQ age.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 20, 2013, 04:43:05 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 20, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 20, 2013, 02:24:31 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 20, 2013, 01:20:02 PM
Reminds me of when Catholic joined the ODAC for football and W&L was excused from playing them for the first year.

Fair enough. The difference is that at the time W&L was coming off a 4-6, 1-4 record in the ODAC and hadn't been ODAC championship relevant since 1985. Catholic certainly was ODAC relevant in '99, but they had to play the reigning champion (E&H) and simply missed one of the lower tier teams. CNU is coming off multiple conference championships and I think most of us expect Huntingdon to challenge for the USAS championship right from the get go. So yeah, Huntingdon is playing Catholic's role, but CNU isn't playing W&L's. I can see how you could draw the parallel, but it's not exactly the same thing...

Of course that also leaves out the comparative difficulties of making the NCAA tournament in the pre-AQ age, which again makes skipping the Huntingdon-CNU matchup much more important than skipping the W&L-Catholic game in '99.

1999 is in the AQ age.

Is that the first year? I don't remember E&H in '98 making the playoffs. But I do kind of remember Catholic making the playoffs in '99, seemed like a big deal in the ODAC, though I can't remember who they played or if they won the first round. I guess I could dig it out if I really cared. More curious if '99 is the first year though and I'm sure you know off the top of your head, right Pat? As a W&L guy, it didn't really matter until the Wilkes debacle in 2006. Not W&L's finest moment, but the most fun my dad and I have ever had at a football game since it was the only chance to watch our alma mater's compete. The outcome cost me hot dogs and the gas money on the way home, and that was with my dad giving me 28 points when we got to the field and saw the comparative sizes of the two teams players... W&L looked like a bunch of smurfs...

Man that's twice today I've given a +K for someone catching a lazy error on my part. Sad

And back to an actual USAS topic... I wish Huntingdon and CNU were playing this year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 20, 2013, 04:59:17 PM
Yes, 1999 was the first year of AQs in football. Playoffs expanded from 16 to 28.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 20, 2013, 05:36:29 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on June 20, 2013, 04:03:40 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on June 20, 2013, 03:43:59 PM
Having at least one of them ranked for a good portion of the season, or both, might help the conf overall in terms of regional and national attention.

Teams would start having to play teams other than that of the ODAC for sure or the conference represenative win a playoff game or two.

Very true. As soon as I posted I thought I should have said that.  The conf does need to get on a streak of having a better showing in the playoffs, but it's hard to start a streak when you play as a lower seed.
Maybe more teams need to play Centre or BSC?  Maryville used to play Centre but that was dropped for Tenn Tech 2yrs ago, and now E&H (a rivalry the old guys are excited to have on the schedule) and Sewanee (the only d3 school other than Maryville and Rhodes in TN and probably should be a natural rivalry) is on the schedule.  BSC and MC scrimmage every year and I'd LOVE to see that become a regular season game.
Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 21, 2013, 11:48:35 AM
Should be another fun year for football! I can't wait to purchase season tickets and get the semester started to see who is on the roster. CNU lost 19 seniors and per the last depth chart I saw there were 9 starters (5 offense and 4 Defense) with another 4 on the depth chart. Looks like the two areas most impacted are the defensive secondary (2 LB and 2 DB starters and another LB on the depth chart) and the O-line (3 starters and a starting TE plus another O-lineman and TE on depth chart).

CNU and the coaches always seem to have players who step right into the roles and often do not miss a beat. I remember one year, we had 3 Senior LB's and the next year the LB corp was even stronger.

The QB situation should be somewhat calmer with some graduations. Coach K always makes it fun and exciting! I still remember season 1 - he called for the fumble-rooskie....and it worked!
Should be a fun year. CNU is only in the conference for a few more years. I'm only assuming so that it gives the CAC time to get enough members back in the fold and new teams added for the AQ. That will be one heck of a conference when it happens. CNU, Wesley and Salisbury.

Anyone coming to CNU games? Let's get the party started!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 21, 2013, 01:37:16 PM
MC has 6 away games this year, three are within 2.5 hours from campus and two of the other road games are Huntingdon (5 hours) and CNU (about ten hours).  DEFINITELY going to the CNU and HC games.  Both have great facilities and are packed with fans.  If anyone can go to games there, I strongly encourage going. Cross it off the bucket list.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 27, 2013, 03:08:02 PM
What's the deal with AU hosting Media Day for the second straight year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 27, 2013, 03:11:52 PM
For the few conferences that still have media days, the site is generally chosen for its central location, rather than a rotation among schools.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 27, 2013, 03:34:34 PM
I'd like to know when they decided this... :-\
One of the perks of media days in the past was seeing a different side of each school other than the football stadium and locker room.
Maryville, Huntingdon, and LaGrange are outside the 3hr 45min radius all the other schools are around Danville. (CNU is the only one not under 3 hours in "others".)  A third of the conference members being outside a "central" location tells me Danville isn't very central.
I'd like to see what kind of facilities HC brings to the table, personally.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 28, 2013, 01:14:35 AM
By your definition, there's no central location. Take a look at the map of what your conference looks like these days. Ferrum is the one in green.

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zK5qGuS5hUnk.kLDLF339eVj4
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on June 28, 2013, 09:20:06 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 28, 2013, 01:14:35 AM
By your definition, there's no central location. Take a look at the map of what your conference looks like these days. Ferrum is the one in green.

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zK5qGuS5hUnk.kLDLF339eVj4

With the addition of Huntingdon and LaGrange, I think Methodist appears to be the most central location.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 28, 2013, 09:40:55 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on June 28, 2013, 09:20:06 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 28, 2013, 01:14:35 AM
By your definition, there's no central location. Take a look at the map of what your conference looks like these days. Ferrum is the one in green.

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zK5qGuS5hUnk.kLDLF339eVj4

With the addition of Huntingdon and LaGrange, I think Methodist appears to be the most central location.
Or Greensboro.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 28, 2013, 01:01:51 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 28, 2013, 09:40:55 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on June 28, 2013, 09:20:06 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 28, 2013, 01:14:35 AM
By your definition, there's no central location. Take a look at the map of what your conference looks like these days. Ferrum is the one in green.

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zK5qGuS5hUnk.kLDLF339eVj4

With the addition of Huntingdon and LaGrange, I think Methodist appears to be the most central location.
Or Greensboro.
So am I the only one that would like to see the location rotate or do most seem to agree that it should be in a somewhat central location?  I don't want this to seem like this is an attack on AU; even if it was held at the Clayton Center for a second time around, I'd stand in the same position.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 28, 2013, 05:13:03 PM
I think it's a little excessive to expect everyone to travel to Huntingdon, LaGrange, Christopher Newport or Maryville.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 02, 2013, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 28, 2013, 05:13:03 PM
I think it's a little excessive to expect everyone to travel to Huntingdon, LaGrange, Christopher Newport or Maryville.

VEGAS!!!!!!

Sorry - bad day at work and needed some self humor!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on July 02, 2013, 12:05:18 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 02, 2013, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 28, 2013, 05:13:03 PM
I think it's a little excessive to expect everyone to travel to Huntingdon, LaGrange, Christopher Newport or Maryville.

VEGAS!!!!!!

Sorry - bad day at work and needed some self humor!

Or South of the Border!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 09, 2013, 01:23:21 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on July 02, 2013, 12:05:18 PMOr South of the Border!
What happens with Pedro, stays with Pedro!

:)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 18, 2013, 02:09:58 PM
http://d3football.com/top25/2013/preseason

Preseason poll for this year. Getting closer and closer, gentlemen.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 19, 2013, 01:00:31 PM
nothing like opening the season on the road against #16.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on July 19, 2013, 01:17:45 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 19, 2013, 01:00:31 PM
nothing like opening the season on the road against #16.

Yeah, but the team loss their star quarterback and some key running backs. I don't know how much its going to hurt them, but looking at the history between you guys, you never know, there have been come close games the last 5 years and some not so much. However, looking at the old schedules, it appears that this game may end up being like 09 and you guys winning. Looking forward to viewing the game, is it going to be streamed?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 22, 2013, 08:53:16 AM
Not sure about the stream, it is at Salisbury and I'm not sure what they do. I will not be going. I have this bad karma thing going with road games.....other teams tend to score 50 points when i go to the road games. (Salisbury, UMHB). And I was at Wesley one game - 34-0 I think it was.

True comments about CNU playing Salisbury tough at times. Like the NCAA game in 2004.

But this is the first game of the year....who knows what will happen?

I will stay home that day!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 22, 2013, 09:58:09 AM
It seems as if the option-heavy teams take a little longer to reload when changing quarterbacks. There's so much precision required in that offense that sometimes it takes a while for a new guy to get completely up to speed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 22, 2013, 04:08:46 PM
Well, let's hope that when you say "takes a little longer", that you don't mean by halftime!! ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 22, 2013, 04:41:04 PM
Pat,
We can we expect to see an actual preseason All-America team?  It's getting a little old reading preseason All-of-America teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 23, 2013, 12:58:35 PM
nevermind...
ask and ye shall receive
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 26, 2013, 11:56:22 PM
The conference media guide for this season is now on the  USAC website. First thing I noticed was on the composite scores from last year...says the maryville/huntingdon game (won by HC in the final half minute) has been "later vacated" by HC. Does anyone know when, how, or why this happened??? I hadn't heard anything about it.

Pasted from source:
Maryville-33 Huntingdon-49* LaGrange-14 Birmingham Southern-41 Salisbury-40 Christopher Newport-16 Greensboro-14 Guilford-13
*-win later vacated by Huntingdon
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 27, 2013, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 26, 2013, 11:56:22 PM
The conference media guide for this season is now on the  USAC website. First thing I noticed was on the composite scores from last year...says the maryville/huntingdon game (won by HC in the final half minute) has been "later vacated" by HC. Does anyone know when, how, or why this happened??? I hadn't heard anything about it.

Pasted from source:
Maryville-33 Huntingdon-49* LaGrange-14 Birmingham Southern-41 Salisbury-40 Christopher Newport-16 Greensboro-14 Guilford-13
*-win later vacated by Huntingdon
I have no clue what that means. Never heard anything about that and can't imagine what the reason would be.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on July 27, 2013, 04:19:26 PM
I'm very excited about the upcoming season and expect a much improved LaGrange squad.  Injuries caught up with us at the end of the season, but I'm expecting a big bounce back in 2013.

Just some observations I had from last year since I've been around watch this conference with my son playing at Maryville in the mid-2000's and hopefully the coaches can address some issues during their conference meetings.

My question is - How can the USA-South conference get better at the national level??  To be completely honest, our conference was not a very good one in 2012.  It may have been one of the worst in D-III last season.

Some points to recap from last year are:
*3-way tie for the conference championship.  Ferrum lost to Maryville in the last game of the season which Maryville had not beaten a team with a winning record all season.
*CNU tanks it in the last game against Methodist at home preventing CNU to win the conference outright and causing a 3-way tie.
*Our conference champ, CNU, gets blasted by Mt. Union by 60 in the 1st round of the playoffs.
*I believe our conference lost almost every game against ODAC schools last season.
*My team, LaGrange, who had 3 wins last season, goes on the road 2 weeks in a row to beat 2 of our co-champs CNU and Maryville.
*Averett & NC Wesleyan has fallen off in a big way from previous years.
*The only teams that played to their squads abilities all season was Methodist and Greensboro.
*NC Wesleyan coach leaves and their AD hires a coach who just completed a 0-10 season at Marietta.
*Finally, I can recall only 1 time since the conference began, that our conference champ won a 1st round game in the NCAA payoffs.

I'm just bringing these points up and hopefully our coaches can look at the current status of our conference at a national level.  How can we get better compared to the northern schools??

Also, can someone bring up why Maryville has changed their stadium's attendance capacity.  When my first son played at MC, the attendance capacity was 3,500 according to the 2006 media guide.  This year when we played at Maryville and their website claims their stadium's capacity is now 5,500.  Attending the game last fall, Honaker Field has made no changes since my son played.  They claim the stadium was to capacity during, but 1/2 of the visitor section which I sat in was empty.

I'm noting this because Maryville is ranked in the top 10 in attendance by the NCAA.  But CNU and our stadium at LaGrange is listed around 5,000 and there is now way MC's stadium is a bigger facility. 

Maybe their SID likes to pad their attendance stats.  Is this a common practice by SID's...

Just wondering.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 27, 2013, 06:24:44 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 27, 2013, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 26, 2013, 11:56:22 PM
The conference media guide for this season is now on the  USAC website. First thing I noticed was on the composite scores from last year...says the maryville/huntingdon game (won by HC in the final half minute) has been "later vacated" by HC. Does anyone know when, how, or why this happened??? I hadn't heard anything about it.

Pasted from source:
Maryville-33 Huntingdon-49* LaGrange-14 Birmingham Southern-41 Salisbury-40 Christopher Newport-16 Greensboro-14 Guilford-13
*-win later vacated by Huntingdon
I have no clue what that means. Never heard anything about that and can't imagine what the reason would be.

I would think surely to goodness we have heard something about it when it happened and why; maybe it's a mix up. Who knows. Really doesn't change anything in my opinion. It's going to be another great match up in Alabama again this year. Can't wait to make the trip.

Panther Guy:
Can't really say why it changed. Might have something to do with the people that stand outside of the fence, but I don't think that should be counted in the official attendance although it does add to the atmosphere.
I have a good idea of who your son is...tell him the boys in Maryville wish him the best. (He was a senior my freshman year)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 27, 2013, 09:01:23 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 27, 2013, 06:24:44 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 27, 2013, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 26, 2013, 11:56:22 PM
The conference media guide for this season is now on the  USAC website. First thing I noticed was on the composite scores from last year...says the maryville/huntingdon game (won by HC in the final half minute) has been "later vacated" by HC. Does anyone know when, how, or why this happened??? I hadn't heard anything about it.

Pasted from source:
Maryville-33 Huntingdon-49* LaGrange-14 Birmingham Southern-41 Salisbury-40 Christopher Newport-16 Greensboro-14 Guilford-13
*-win later vacated by Huntingdon
I have no clue what that means. Never heard anything about that and can't imagine what the reason would be.

I would think surely to goodness we have heard something about it when it happened and why; maybe it's a mix up. Who knows. Really doesn't change anything in my opinion. It's going to be another great match up in Alabama again this year. Can't wait to make the trip.

Panther Guy:
Can't really say why it changed. Might have something to do with the people that stand outside of the fence, but I don't think that should be counted in the official attendance although it does add to the atmosphere.
I have a good idea of who your son is...tell him the boys in Maryville wish him the best. (He was a senior my freshman year)
I was told that it will be addressed publicly soon. I assume that means at media day but could be wrong.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 29, 2013, 01:43:30 PM
CNU picked to win in the preseason poll.

2013 USA South Coaches Preseason Poll
Rank   Institution (1st Place Votes)   Pts.
1.   Christopher Newport (4)   56
2.   Huntingdon (3)            55
3.   Ferrum (1)                   54
4.   Maryville                           44
5.   Methodist (1)                   37
6.   LaGrange                           32
7.   Greensboro                   21
8.   N.C. Wesleyan                   13
9.   Averett                           12
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 29, 2013, 03:19:55 PM
The poll is probably a fair assessment considering the circumstances.  Tons of talent returning throughout the conference and will be an awesome year to watch how everything plays out.  Interested to see how Vann returns, what Huntingdon's young talent can do for its offense, and what kind of supporting cast Ferrum has for Reynolds.

I've heard that the situation with Huntingdon has to do with an ineligible player, but of course until the Athletics Department releases an official statement it's all hearsay. I was hoping Coach Turk would have hinted at it during his time at the podium.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 29, 2013, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 29, 2013, 03:19:55 PM

I've heard that the situation with Huntingdon has to do with an ineligible player, but of course until the Athletics Department releases an official statement it's all hearsay. I was hoping Coach Turk would have hinted at it during his time at the podium.
Ineligible player would be my guess too but anything I've found so far in looking at box scores would just be speculation so I should probably just stop and wait on something official. Whatever the mistake was, hopefully it was learned from and won't happen again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 30, 2013, 03:55:28 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 29, 2013, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 29, 2013, 03:19:55 PM

I've heard that the situation with Huntingdon has to do with an ineligible player, but of course until the Athletics Department releases an official statement it's all hearsay. I was hoping Coach Turk would have hinted at it during his time at the podium.
Ineligible player would be my guess too but anything I've found so far in looking at box scores would just be speculation so I should probably just stop and wait on something official. Whatever the mistake was, hopefully it was learned from and won't happen again.

It's going to be interesting to see if or how the NCAA handles it, or if it will be handled in house.  If only one game was vacated obviously the coaching staff realized the infraction and took care of it quickly. Hopefully the book isn't thrown at them.

In other news, USAC coaches have their impact players: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxU9NqEaqy0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 13, 2013, 04:21:42 PM
So, will CNU likely win a weak conference and get crushed in the playoffs, again?  Unfortunately, that has become the norm, and it's simply unacceptable....allow me to vent, if you will.  CNU football is no longer exciting to me, and hasn't been for a few years now....during the first several years of the program, I could expect CNU to compete and potentially win some games against very good programs.  Now, that's a thing of the past....I realize CNU doesn't get the caliber of athlete it did early on, primarily because of increasing admissions standards, but they have to do something to right the ship, so to speak.  After all, there are other schools w/similar standards that do a lot better on the field....I think CNU still gets a fair amount of good athletes, but I think the offensive game plan really needs to be overhauled.  I like the fact that they're a run oriented team, but the offense is extremely vanilla and predictable.  A little versatility would go a long way towards improving the product....anyway, I could go on voicing my frustrations, but I think I've said enough for now.  The current state of the CNU football program is not good, in my opinion....something has to change.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 13, 2013, 04:32:15 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on August 13, 2013, 04:21:42 PM
So, will CNU likely win a weak conference and get crushed in the playoffs, again?

I would say that CNU has a good chance in winning the conference, but I wouldn't count out on a few other teams. I think it is going to be very competitive in the conference. As for playoffs, if they get an undefeated represenative, maybe the conference represenative can get a good first round match-up. However, as with many teams within the conference and out, getting crushed by the likes of Mount Union, UMHB, and Wesley has not been uncommon over the recent years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 13, 2013, 05:03:23 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on August 13, 2013, 04:32:15 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on August 13, 2013, 04:21:42 PM
So, will CNU likely win a weak conference and get crushed in the playoffs, again?

I would say that CNU has a good chance in winning the conference, but I wouldn't count out on a few other teams. I think it is going to be very competitive in the conference. As for playoffs, if they get an undefeated represenative, maybe the conference represenative can get a good first round match-up. However, as with many teams within the conference and out, getting crushed by the likes of Mount Union, UMHB, and Wesley has not been uncommon over the recent years.

I would say the conference is still fairly weak, but making strides.  This is going to be an exciting season within the conference now that there is 9 teams and 4 or 5 contenders, but I do think the playoff team will get the short end of the stick..

As for CNU, I really believe the addition of football at ODU has hurt them.  It used to be "Can't go FBS, and maybe a second/third stringer at W&M...I'll go to CNU and kick @$$ (since tuition isn't 35-42K)."  Those kids now look at ODU and see another opportunity to go to a higher division and work for a spot on those teams.  Of course this is just my opinion and I'd have to look at the rosters to see if this the case, but it's awfully funny to see CNU's dominance dwindle since around the time ODU has gone on the fast track.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on August 15, 2013, 04:29:00 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on August 13, 2013, 04:21:42 PM
I realize CNU doesn't get the caliber of athlete it did early on, primarily because of increasing admissions standards, but they have to do something to right the ship, so to speak.  After all, there are other schools w/similar standards that do a lot better on the field....

Does anyone else think it is funny that Swish3 is complaining about increasing academic standards and drop off in talent when CNU is a public school receiving the majority of their funding from the Commonwealth of Virginia and everyone else in the conference is a small private liberal arts school? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 15, 2013, 05:41:01 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on August 15, 2013, 04:29:00 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on August 13, 2013, 04:21:42 PM
I realize CNU doesn't get the caliber of athlete it did early on, primarily because of increasing admissions standards, but they have to do something to right the ship, so to speak.  After all, there are other schools w/similar standards that do a lot better on the field....

Does anyone else think it is funny that Swish3 is complaining about increasing academic standards and drop off in talent when CNU is a public school receiving the majority of their funding from the Commonwealth of Virginia and everyone else in the conference is a small private liberal arts school?

In the case of the USAC, I see where you can be a little irritated at the compliant, but it's not like CNU is the only public university in DIII. It's really old news--It's not a surprise and it doesn't change anything.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 15, 2013, 05:47:28 PM
Swish makes some good points. Something is def not working. We reached a certain level fairly quickly, and then expectations were set  high...then the past few years seemed to have tapered off. And to Scots' point about ODU, I never really gave it a serious thought. ODU is on a totally different level and now has moved to Conference USA.  And ODU was competitive almost from day one in the very tough CAA. I would have thought that if CNU had players of that caliber in the past, that we would have gone deeper in playoffs. I dunno. I did hear that a top CNU hoops star has transferred to ODU to play for the new coach, Jeff Jones. Not sure how that will work out.

Swish - CNU has hired a few new coaches...including the OC from W&M. In the past 20 yrs W&M has averaged 400+ yds per game. Although he is shown as being a D-line coach.

http://cnusports.com/news/2013/7/22/FB_0722132528.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2013/7/22/FB_0722132528.aspx)

http://cnusports.com/news/2013/8/7/FB_0807131604.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2013/8/7/FB_0807131604.aspx)

So at least CNU isn't sitting still...always making moves.
But it is fun to talk football again!!! I just bought my season tickets today! And tomorrow night's baseball games will determine the draft order in my fantasy football league.

It's nice to be old and have my kids out of college. I can be a kid again!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 15, 2013, 06:02:16 PM
85,
If I'm not mistaken, public collegiate athletic departments in the Commonwealth do not receive state funding. Kinda of surprising CNU has the money to hire an OC from a pretty decent FCS school plus some others.
Must have some generous alumni.  At any rate, good luck to the new guys on staff this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 16, 2013, 02:15:54 PM
he has at least one kid on the CNU team....probably heading into retirement anyway....so watch your kids for 3-4 years and then travel with the wife!

And yup - no money from the Commonwealth for athletics, at any level. So, student fees, and money from folks like me have to do the trick. I think I contribute enough each year to buy shoes for the starting 5 hoops team!  The 6th man is out of luck  :D

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 16, 2013, 02:20:02 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 16, 2013, 02:15:54 PM
he has at least one kid on the CNU team....probably heading into retirement anyway....so watch your kids for 3-4 years and then travel with the wife!

And yup - no money from the Commonwealth for athletics, at any level. So, student fees, and money from folks like me have to do the trick. I think I contribute enough each year to buy shoes for the starting 5 hoops team!  The 6th man is out of luck  :D

hahaha +K
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 16, 2013, 02:27:54 PM
I forget CNU graduates 3x or more the number everyone else does in a year. That makes for a good base of alumni support.

And now I know why CNU hoops had some sweet shoes last year....

MC has updated the roster for this year. Looks like the guys stepped up recruiting this year-several new states. NC with 12, SC with 2 new and 3 total, TX (yes, Texas) with 7, and 1 guy that probably had a broken GPS from NJ.
Other states are GA, FL, AL.
http://www.mcscots.com/sports/fball/2013-14/roster
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 16, 2013, 02:44:07 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 16, 2013, 02:27:54 PM
I forget CNU graduates 3x or more the number everyone else does in a year. That makes for a good base of alumni support.

And now I know why CNU hoops had some sweet shoes last year....

MC has updated the roster for this year. Looks like the guys stepped up recruiting this year-several new states. NC with 12, SC with 2 new and 3 total, TX (yes, Texas) with 7, and 1 guy that probably had a broken GPS from NJ.
Other states are GA, FL, AL.
http://www.mcscots.com/sports/fball/2013-14/roster

I am sure it is a typo, but they have him listed as a DL at 5'9 107.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 16, 2013, 03:00:55 PM
a brief look at CNU roster...

1 NY.
1 PA - but went to HS in VA
2 CA

the rest VA
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 16, 2013, 03:07:34 PM
I'm sure it is. Looks a little thicker than 107.
The one I'm excited to see play is hometown kid Koko from Alcoa. Top 3 rushers from last year are 2 seniors and a junior, but I think he will see some quality time. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 16, 2013, 03:29:51 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on August 16, 2013, 02:44:07 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 16, 2013, 02:27:54 PM
I forget CNU graduates 3x or more the number everyone else does in a year. That makes for a good base of alumni support.

And now I know why CNU hoops had some sweet shoes last year....

MC has updated the roster for this year. Looks like the guys stepped up recruiting this year-several new states. NC with 12, SC with 2 new and 3 total, TX (yes, Texas) with 7, and 1 guy that probably had a broken GPS from NJ.
Other states are GA, FL, AL.
http://www.mcscots.com/sports/fball/2013-14/roster

I am sure it is a typo, but they have him listed as a DL at 5'9 107.

They use the metric system in NJ. And they don't use GPS up there....can't pump your own gas anyway.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 16, 2013, 03:32:01 PM
graduating class of 2013 was over 1,000. My daughter was one of them.

This year's freshmen class is largest ever. I want to say it is just a few short of 1,300.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 16, 2013, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 16, 2013, 03:32:01 PM
graduating class of 2013 was over 1,000. My daughter was one of them.

This year's freshmen class is largest ever. I want to say it is just a few short of 1,300.

And I graduated with around 275 at Maryville.... yikes.

MC has its largest freshman class too. Not sure what the number is, but I've heard they've had to make freshmen triple up in their dorms. Excuse me, "residential halls". (I guess the use of the word "dorm" isn't PC anymore.) My freshman class was over 400 and we had plenty of room, must mean the Class of 2017 is pushing 500.  Hopefully most stay and help Maryville grow in the coming years.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 18, 2013, 01:43:43 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 16, 2013, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 16, 2013, 03:32:01 PM
graduating class of 2013 was over 1,000. My daughter was one of them.

This year's freshmen class is largest ever. I want to say it is just a few short of 1,300.

And I graduated with around 275 at Maryville.... yikes.

MC has its largest freshman class too. Not sure what the number is, but I've heard they've had to make freshmen triple up in their dorms. Excuse me, "residential halls". (I guess the use of the word "dorm" isn't PC anymore.) My freshman class was over 400 and we had plenty of room, must mean the Class of 2017 is pushing 500.  Hopefully most stay and help Maryville grow in the coming years.

My High School Class had 505 graduates. Double Yikes.  CNU has had to triple up some of the rooms n the past. It is now a requirement for students to live on campus through Junior year. A new dorm is supposed to be open this week...450 beds. That's almost 10% of student body. I hope it's ready in time.

And this Year's freshman come in with a 3.71 GPA and averaging over 1200 on SAT. Glad I'm old and got in back when the mission was different. No dorms at all when I was there.

Football news. The roster is up for CNU but no freshmen listed yet. And I am really clueless about the team this year. I have no idea what's going on. So let's get the party started and open the parking lot for tailgating.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 18, 2013, 06:02:35 PM
Speaking of tailgating, how does it work at CNU? Call head to the athletics department and reserve spots?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 18, 2013, 06:12:55 PM
Just crossed my mind....LESS THAN 3 WEEKS UNTIL KICKOFF!
I, for one, can't wait.  Let's hope that everybody has a great out of conference record.  I'm bout dang tired of hearing my ODAC buddies mocking the USAC. It's about time we as a conference play a little better early in the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 18, 2013, 07:19:47 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 18, 2013, 06:02:35 PM
Speaking of tailgating, how does it work at CNU? Call head to the athletics department and reserve spots?

Yup. Call the ticket office.

http://cnusports.com/sports/2011/5/16/ticket-office.aspx?&tab=2 (http://cnusports.com/sports/2011/5/16/ticket-office.aspx?&tab=2)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 22, 2013, 12:46:53 PM
Maryville is about an hour away from scrimmaging Birmingham Southern.
Any other scrimmages today or this week?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 22, 2013, 01:25:21 PM
mu scrimmages louisburg college on saturday...i won't be able to get there, but i'm hoping one of my scouts can :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 22, 2013, 03:03:45 PM
just heard CNU is scrimmaging today.....but shhhhhh...it's a secret! bahahahaha...at least, they wouldn't tell me who they were scrimmaging.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 22, 2013, 03:31:30 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 22, 2013, 03:03:45 PM
just heard CNU is scrimmaging today.....but shhhhhh...it's a secret! bahahahaha...at least, they wouldn't tell me who they were scrimmaging.

I'm sure wiki leaks will tell us..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 23, 2013, 01:33:52 AM
Heard from several sources today/tonight the scrimmage at BSC went well.  BSC has a talented group, but my boys had the edge throughout the session which was cut short by storms.  During the half game portion of the scrimmage, the 1's got up on BSC 10-0, but the 2's and 3's let them creep back a little. "Final score" was 17-13 MC. Can't complain there, but a lot to iron out during the next 2 weeks to get ready for the season.

Not sure if any injuries other than the usual bumps and bruises, hopefully both teams got out safely.  Hope the MU/Loisburg and other conference scrimmages go well and injury free.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 23, 2013, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 22, 2013, 03:31:30 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 22, 2013, 03:03:45 PM
just heard CNU is scrimmaging today.....but shhhhhh...it's a secret! bahahahaha...at least, they wouldn't tell me who they were scrimmaging.

I'm sure wiki leaks will tell us..

I would leak it, but I'm on my way to hormone therapy to become CNU-ette85!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 23, 2013, 04:46:29 PM
Been out of the loop for some time, appears from what I am reading that CNU is the top pick this year. Can anyone tell me where Averett ended up? Are there any Averett folks on the board anymore?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 24, 2013, 12:36:49 PM
Unfortunately, AU was picked dead last. Looks like a long season is ahead.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 24, 2013, 05:46:42 PM
Huntingdon had a scrimmage this morning for the returning players so I went to check it out. First year players were out for first year student community service projects and were to have separate scrimmage this afternoon. Still a lot of work to do but over all not too bad for the first week and third day in pads.
The coolest thing is that lights have been installed! I have thought that it would be cool to have some night games there and now we will be able to.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 24, 2013, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 24, 2013, 05:46:42 PM
Huntingdon had a scrimmage this morning for the returning players so I went to check it out. First year players were out for first year student community service projects and were to have separate scrimmage this afternoon. Still a lot of work to do but over all not too bad for the first week and third day in pads.
The coolest thing is that lights have been installed! I have thought that it would be cool to have some night games there and now we will be able to.

Go Hawks!

any night games already scheduled for this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 24, 2013, 09:53:33 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 24, 2013, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 24, 2013, 05:46:42 PM
Huntingdon had a scrimmage this morning for the returning players so I went to check it out. First year players were out for first year student community service projects and were to have separate scrimmage this afternoon. Still a lot of work to do but over all not too bad for the first week and third day in pads.
The coolest thing is that lights have been installed! I have thought that it would be cool to have some night games there and now we will be able to.

Go Hawks!

any night games already scheduled for this year?
None for this year but I heard there will be at least one next year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on August 24, 2013, 10:46:56 PM
Hawks
I was hoping to go over to watch the scrimadge today, but had to work.
The news udates read pretty good. Some real reloading on the DL, but hope they can still light folk up.
Hope to see yall in Montgomery some this season
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on August 27, 2013, 09:47:09 PM
LaGrange will play Birmingham Southern, Christopher Newport, and Huntingdon all under the lights.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 28, 2013, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on August 27, 2013, 09:47:09 PM
LaGrange will play Birmingham Southern, Christopher Newport, and Huntingdon all under the lights.

Which is good for LaGrange. Will video be available for any of the games?

Narch,

What is your take on Methodist 1st game this year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 28, 2013, 08:34:20 AM
I see that CNU will be headed to LaGrange this year. I would like to hear from former players about a trip like that (660 miles....at least 10 hours in a bus....probably longer).

Does that take you out of Rhythm? Pretty much a lost day of practice, normalcy. How does the routine change? What do you do on a bus other than sleep? How are practices when you get to where you are going? Things like that? Then the ride back. Also, how does that affect classes? Just seems to me that a long trip like that just totally destroys the continuity of a normal week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 28, 2013, 10:22:17 AM
Wonder if they might fly instead. LaGrange is under 90 minutes from the Atlanta airport.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on August 28, 2013, 11:31:27 AM
CNU flies to LaGrange...or at least their basketball team did last year.

Yes, we will be streaming all of our home games this year. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on August 28, 2013, 12:36:22 PM
Too expensive for majority D3 programs to fly unless a person is willing to underwrite the expense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 28, 2013, 01:42:05 PM
It's a lot different to fly a football team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 28, 2013, 01:44:06 PM
I was told that they will be on a bus! And the hoops team last year flew because the game with Piedmont was cancelled and thus it became a weekend of only 1 game and they wanted to get back in time for the memorial for CJ Woollum. If I remember correctly.



I know the radio guys will probably fly down.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 28, 2013, 01:48:09 PM
non football related....my classroom at CNU. I'm the first to teach in the trading room!! I have a couple of students on the team...so now it is football related! baha!!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1093989_10153097659355181_632157286_o.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1093989_10153097659355181_632157286_o.jpg)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 28, 2013, 02:13:23 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on August 28, 2013, 12:17:35 AM
Narch,

What is your take on Methodist 1st game this year?
didn't see mu play in person, but i've heard from multiple sources that they dominated louisburg...they have played lc in pre-season for the last few years, and they haven't dominated them yet...this might mean lc is down (could be the case) or mu is up...we'll see

i'm not sure what to think about sova...they went 1-1 vs ncwc and ferrum last year, and mu did, as well - sova is different, though, because they might have a handful of really good players leave for/return from mission trips and be a very different team this year
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 28, 2013, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 24, 2013, 12:36:49 PM
Unfortunately, AU was picked dead last. Looks like a long season is ahead.

Been having too many of those.......Hopefully they can pull something out of the hat and be competive.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on August 28, 2013, 10:47:10 PM
Greensboro College,

Above .500 this year and will beat CNU!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 29, 2013, 08:25:44 AM
Quote from: moshergc9 on August 28, 2013, 10:47:10 PM
Greensboro College,

Above .500 this year and will beat CNU!

ooooh. Trash talking!! Love it!!!! BRB!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 29, 2013, 08:34:29 AM
Here we go Mosh!! (BTW - this is just fun trash talking!)

GC record vs CNU 0-12

Avg score CNU - 32 GC 11

CNU scores more than 30 in half the contests. Under 20 in only 1 game.
GC has scored over 20 only twice. In more than half (7) of the games, GC scored 10 or less.

Although - I will give you this...the last 2 years have been way too close for me!!! A 5 pt Victory in 2011 and 6 points last year at CNU. This year is at GC.
In the last 2 contests GC has scored 28% of the total points they have scored against CNU in the 12 year series.

13 will be an unlucky number for someone!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 29, 2013, 02:07:10 PM
Captains at MC have been named for this year.
Two things really stand out this year:
1) Two are 2x captains in RS-SR Jamie Owen and SR Travis Felder
2) Two are sophomores. QB Evan Pittenger and DT Zach Capehart
The fifth is LB Dylan Wolfenbarger, another fifth year guy who I think will have an All-American year.  He's about a 100 tackles short of breaking the career record at MC.  With 135 tackles last year, barring injury, he should get it.
When I was there, we voted on captains in Spring, but with this new staff voting is at the end of camp (obviously).  I wasn't a proponent of late voting originally, but with voting so late you really see who the leaders are. After watching the intrasquad scrimmage yesterday, I'd say I've warmed up to it.

http://mcscots.com/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/201308292maonb
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 31, 2013, 02:26:54 PM
Here's the announcement concerning Huntingdon vacating the win over Maryville last season.

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/20130830fxchhk
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 31, 2013, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 31, 2013, 02:26:54 PM
Here's the announcement concerning Huntingdon vacating the win over Maryville last season.

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/20130830fxchhk

2 snaps. Became eligible later. Wow! Truly a coach with integrity. My hat's off to the man! Extremely impressive.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 31, 2013, 09:33:34 PM
MOSH---Coaching this year? "you too Brutus"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 31, 2013, 10:54:09 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on August 31, 2013, 09:33:34 PM
MOSH---Coaching this year? "you too Brutus"

Et tu, Brute?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 31, 2013, 11:31:57 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 31, 2013, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 31, 2013, 02:26:54 PM
Here's the announcement concerning Huntingdon vacating the win over Maryville last season.

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/20130830fxchhk

2 snaps. Became eligible later. Wow! Truly a coach with integrity. My hat's off to the man! Extremely impressive.

I wonder if a) the NCAA let the situation be with the vacated win, and b) if many times in D3 stuff like this gets over looked.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUgrad40 on September 01, 2013, 12:11:43 AM
As a graduate of Averett University, and a four-year member of the Cougar football program, it is tough to hear that we have fallen on hard times...however, being picked last in a preseason poll is far from the end of the season...Coach D will put his players in a position to be successful, and it will be up to them to perform to the standards that have been set by former Cougar teams...I am excited to see how things turn out and I wish every team the best of luck in the coming season!!

AU!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 01, 2013, 06:33:33 AM
Quote from: AUgrad40 on September 01, 2013, 12:11:43 AM
As a graduate of Averett University, and a four-year member of the Cougar football program, it is tough to hear that we have fallen on hard times...however, being picked last in a preseason poll is far from the end of the season...Coach D will put his players in a position to be successful, and it will be up to them to perform to the standards that have been set by former Cougar teams...I am excited to see how things turn out and I wish every team the best of luck in the coming season!!

AU!!!

Basically, that is all you can ask from a coach. If he is doing everything possible to put the young men in position to be successful, it is then up to the players to perform on the field. Now as far as recruiting, you need support from the school, maybe a new uniform, facility, etc...to ge the talent their.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUgrad40 on September 01, 2013, 05:23:11 PM


Basically, that is all you can ask from a coach. If he is doing everything possible to put the young men in position to be successful, it is then up to the players to perform on the field. Now as far as recruiting, you need support from the school, maybe a new uniform, facility, etc...to ge the talent their.
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You are absolutely right, the support has to be there in order to get the best recruits.  There has been a drastic change since I graduated in 2009.

I believe that they are building a new football stadium, which should help in bringing recruits in.  I remember my recruiting visit, my first thought of the "Cougar Den" was that it reminded me of my high school practice field.  While I would have loved to have played at a larger venue, my ultimate deciding factor on attending the school was Coach Dunlevy.  He is a fantastic man, as well as a coach.  I can honestly say that in 2009, our group was far from the most talented bunch, but we bought into his system and we played for him.  I know that success is largely correlated to recruiting in college football, but unity is just as important.  I think that Averett will surprise a few people this year, or at least I hope they do.

I will be in Maryville to watch the Cougars play the Scots.  I am very excited to see this game as it was one of my favorite places to play while I was in college.  It should make for a very fun weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 01, 2013, 06:19:10 PM
Quote from: AUgrad40 on September 01, 2013, 05:23:11 PM


Basically, that is all you can ask from a coach. If he is doing everything possible to put the young men in position to be successful, it is then up to the players to perform on the field. Now as far as recruiting, you need support from the school, maybe a new uniform, facility, etc...to ge the talent their.

You are absolutely right, the support has to be there in order to get the best recruits.  There has been a drastic change since I graduated in 2009.

I believe that they are building a new football stadium, which should help in bringing recruits in.  I remember my recruiting visit, my first thought of the "Cougar Den" was that it reminded me of my high school practice field.  While I would have loved to have played at a larger venue, my ultimate deciding factor on attending the school was Coach Dunlevy.  He is a fantastic man, as well as a coach.  I can honestly say that in 2009, our group was far from the most talented bunch, but we bought into his system and we played for him.  I know that success is largely correlated to recruiting in college football, but unity is just as important.  I think that Averett will surprise a few people this year, or at least I hope they do.

I will be in Maryville to watch the Cougars play the Scots.  I am very excited to see this game as it was one of my favorite places to play while I was in college.  It should make for a very fun weekend.
[/quote]

It will definitely be a fun weekend. The Maryville/Averett game is one the "newer" older guys love and circle on the schedule every year. Always a fun game and the series is pretty even.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 01, 2013, 07:01:04 PM
Who are the impact players for your team?

LaGrange College

Andre Carter - LB ('12 USA South Defensive Player of the Year)

Griffin Roelle - WR
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUgrad40 on September 01, 2013, 10:21:20 PM
I'd love to say we have a ton of guys that will make an impact this season, but I think this will be a success by commity years for Averett.

I do know that they have a few 4-year starters on offense and defense back for this year.  The quarterback has a lot of experience.

Should be intersting to see how it all pans out, especially with all of the new teams that have joined the conference since I graduated.  Lagrange has a great program and I'd be willing to bet that they will be one of the perennial top choices to win the title every year.

I really wish that the conference had been expanded sooner.  I believe that the competition throughout the year will aid the USAC in gaining more respect nationally.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 02, 2013, 10:45:41 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on September 01, 2013, 07:01:04 PM
Who are the impact players for your team?

LaGrange College

Andre Carter - LB ('12 USA South Defensive Player of the Year)

Griffin Roelle - WR
on offense, vaughn cross and max reber, although i'm hearing jordan vann will have some packages at qb, as well...

on defense, navari holden is apparently healthy this year, and can make some plays at lb - i think bj minter is in for a big season on the line, as well
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 03, 2013, 07:23:08 AM
http://lagrangenews.com/news/sports/2430090/Embracing-a-new-offense (http://lagrangenews.com/news/sports/2430090/Embracing-a-new-offense)

I cannot wait for Saturday, should be a fun season for LC football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 03, 2013, 07:34:54 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on September 03, 2013, 07:23:08 AM
http://lagrangenews.com/news/sports/2430090/Embracing-a-new-offense (http://lagrangenews.com/news/sports/2430090/Embracing-a-new-offense)

I cannot wait for Saturday, should be a fun season for LC football.
I guess that is a positive for LaGrange. However, as many already know, being one-dimensional doesn't really help you when the big game, it may help win a quarter or two. Nevertheless, I look forward in seeing the offense this year. LaGrange can definitely make a statement this weekend against a solid opponent.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 03, 2013, 04:55:40 PM
Ben Stein Fan

Great link, thanks.

i have 10/19 circled. We gonna try to make that away game, (it is close to our farm)

always fun

hope yall have a great season at LaGrange
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 03, 2013, 07:42:01 PM
cnu85 and dgpugh, good luck this season.  getting excited about football time.  will be in tough with you guys during the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 04, 2013, 01:43:35 PM
(Updated to include 2013) Seventeenth annual Soup Bowl at Greensboro (Grimsley HS) this Saturday at 1 pm.  If past tradition holds, you get in for a nonperishable food donation to the local food bank.  Here are some numbers from the intracity rivalry:

Year*   GCQ   GCP   Winner
1997   46   7   Guilford
1998   7   27   Greensboro
1999   15   14   Guilford
2000   20   35   Greensboro
2001   14   15   Greensboro
2002   21   7   Guilford
2003   7   13   Greensboro
2004   7   28   Greensboro
2005   36   35   Guilford
2006   36   30  2OT   Guilford
2007   41   35   Guilford
2008   22   12   Guilford
2009   7   12   Greensboro
2010   15   17   Greensboro
2011   27   7   Guilford
2012   13   14   Greensboro
2013    31   28  Guilford   
         
Total   365   336   
Home Record   3-5   3-6   
Away Record   6-3   5-3   
Series Record   9   8
   
* Odd years at Greensboro, even years at Guilford.  Greensboro forfeited one of their wins, but I can't remember which - perhaps 2009, so there's a question of whether 9-8 or 10-7. 

Four games decided by 1 point, one game by 2 points, one game by 3 points and one in 2OT with a 25-yard TD pass.  Ten games decided by a touchdown or less.  I've seen them all.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2013, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on September 03, 2013, 07:42:01 PM
cnu85 and dgpugh, good luck this season.  getting excited about football time.  will be in tough with you guys during the season.

Thanks!!! Good luck to you guys this year! Looks like you will have a great season!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 04, 2013, 03:12:13 PM
Wesley Dad- hero
i pray you and yours are well
if u make the trip, we were thinking of making the drive to DE, but not sure i can ...
yall have a great season

CNU85
good luck. Hopefully Huntingdon can hang with yall this season
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 04, 2013, 04:59:11 PM
I wish Huntingdon and CNU were playing this year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 04, 2013, 05:21:18 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 04, 2013, 04:59:11 PM
I wish Huntingdon and CNU were playing this year!

Me too.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 05, 2013, 09:18:03 AM
Fantasy draft last night! Waiting for CNU Media guide to be posted! Football tonight! Football Saturday!

It's that time of year...now matter how old I get, this time of year I revert to a 12 yr old!!! - or maybe 21...beer is involved! Snacks, football and beer!!!!

Sweet!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 07, 2013, 06:37:51 PM
Is Ferrum that bad this year or has E&H really improved? Was not expecting that kind of score from that game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 07, 2013, 08:08:45 PM
max reber had a record setting day, going 27-37 for 398 yards and 4 tds - vaughn cross hauled in 11 of reber's passes for 109 yards and 3 td's - navahri holden led the defense with 8 tackles (7 solo) and a sack...mu wins 33-20 - nice start for the monarchs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 07, 2013, 08:21:35 PM
CNU wins on the road at #16 Salisbury 17-10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Goose13 on September 07, 2013, 08:23:38 PM
Congrats to the Captains!! Huge season opening win on the road at Salisbury and in the come from behind fashion too. 17-10 is your final. Marcus Morrast was 15-of-25 for 146 and two TD passes, including the game winner, an 18-yard pass to Paul Dukes with 15 seconds left in the fourth. Great way to start the season. Huge game next week in the home opener against Hampden-Sydney.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 07, 2013, 08:26:14 PM
CNU85, great win for the captains.  defense was very very good.  they handled the option as good as i have seen wesley handle it.  lots to be excited about at CNU.  QB will need to improve a little on his accuracy, but the running back is strong.  looks like the captains could have a strong chance to win the league.  good luck the rest of the year and enjoy this win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 07, 2013, 08:30:14 PM
Thanks Wesleydad. I listened to game on radio. CNU defense was tough. Gave up 221 yds. 130 in first quarter. Gave up a TD on first drive, then shut them down. Offense was slow out of the gate down 7-0 at half. Then came out and dominated 3rd qt. SU only had three plays in third. CNU up 10-7 early in fourth. SU ties it up at 10-10 and then CNU drives and scores TD with 15 seconds left in game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 07, 2013, 08:34:08 PM
big win for the capts...the salisbury streaming video was good...didn't freeze up every 5 seconds...cnu looks like they could be dangerous this season
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 07, 2013, 08:39:28 PM
I thought about watching it. But the radio and video feeds are usually a play or 2 off and I decided to listen to CNU radio guys. Especially since I had lunch with them Thursday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 08, 2013, 12:40:57 AM
The Ferrum/E&H score surprises me a lot CNU pulling out the win was BIG for the conference.  MC ran a base offense today at Berry and won 37-0. A lot of time on the field for a lot of freshmen and they played well.
Obviously MC was a big favorite going into the game today, but watch out for Berry.  LOTS of great athletes. Won't be too far in the future for them to start winning some games.  Berry reported 6700 people at the game and there was every bit of it there. Great atmosphere for D3.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUgrad40 on September 08, 2013, 09:29:57 AM
Congrats to those with wins in the opening weekend.  I did not get to see the Averett Game vs. Hampden-Sydney, but I heard there were some positives to take from the loss.  Looking forward to seeing what changes are made next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 08, 2013, 09:56:25 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 07, 2013, 06:37:51 PM
Is Ferrum that bad this year or has E&H really improved? Was not expecting that kind of score from that game.

I was not expecting that either, but I am not sure about the answer to your question. Ferrum lost almost their entire secondary to graduation. The E&H qb is the real deal. It was obvious that they would throw, but Ferrum did not help their cause. Reynolds threw for three int's. I think it is a case that Ferrum will improve as the season goes on, but they are young. In the present they are iffy, but the future is bright. They had over 170 in camp, and I spoke with the coach a little over a week ago, and they have a Freshman qb that he said is as good if not better than any qb that has been there in a while.
Keepin the faith, and my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 09, 2013, 01:11:33 PM
narch, will you be at the Guilford/Methodist game on Saturday?  I'm considering the drive.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 09, 2013, 01:21:02 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 09, 2013, 01:11:33 PM
narch, will you be at the Guilford/Methodist game on Saturday?  I'm considering the drive.
at the moment, i plan to be there...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 09, 2013, 02:05:56 PM
Quote from: narch on September 09, 2013, 01:21:02 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 09, 2013, 01:11:33 PM
narch, will you be at the Guilford/Methodist game on Saturday?  I'm considering the drive.
at the moment, i plan to be there...
Okay, hope to see you there. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 09, 2013, 03:42:14 PM
I've become accustomed to a somewhat non-partisan approach by the Public Address Announcer at most football games, so I was a bit surprised to hear the Greensboro announcer quite audibly say "Stick 'em, boys!" on a Guilford kick-off return.  Is this sort of "homer" instinct normal for a Public Address Announcer or did he inadvertently have his mic on?  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 09, 2013, 06:10:41 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 08, 2013, 12:40:57 AM
The Ferrum/E&H score surprises me a lot CNU pulling out the win was BIG for the conference.  MC ran a base offense today at Berry and won 37-0. A lot of time on the field for a lot of freshmen and they played well.
Obviously MC was a big favorite going into the game today, but watch out for Berry.  LOTS of great athletes. Won't be too far in the future for them to start winning some games.  Berry reported 6700 people at the game and there was every bit of it there. Great atmosphere for D3.

Didn't really surprise me, I was thinking that this Salisbury team mirrors that of their 2009 team. I felt as though CNU could actually beat them and they did. I went through the play-by-play and as many have already stated, they appeared to have dominated the line of scrimmage and shut the option down. Now, looking forward, H-SC is a total different ball game, I  am looking forward in how the Captains secondard is going to contend with H-SC passing attack.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 09, 2013, 07:37:43 PM
Going with recent USAC history out of conference and how the entire conference has struggled I thought having an opening game at a top 20 was a sure fire loss for CNU. Not trying to talk bad about them, or take anything away, but numbers don't lie.  Most people, regardless of division, would have favored a 16 ranked team over a 58th ranked team in the first game of the year.  Great win for the Captains and I hope they, and the rest of the conference, win out OOC. This bull crap of starting week 4 with under .500 teams is bad. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 10, 2013, 08:10:20 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 09, 2013, 07:37:43 PM
Going with recent USAC history out of conference and how the entire conference has struggled I thought having an opening game at a top 20 was a sure fire loss for CNU. Not trying to talk bad about them, or take anything away, but numbers don't lie.  Most people, regardless of division, would have favored a 16 ranked team over a 58th ranked team in the first game of the year.  Great win for the Captains and I hope they, and the rest of the conference, win out OOC. This bull crap of starting week 4 with under .500 teams is bad.

CNU is now 3-10 on opening day because of scheduling as tough as they can (although, I'm sure Shenandoah was scheduled for other reasons). Historically CNU non conf games have been brutal with the likes of Salisbury, Rowen, Wesley, UMHB, and Bridgewater back in their ranked days. And now starting to play teams like H-SC. It is fun to watch and good to see how your team stacks up...but CNU's OOC record is sub .500.

And I picked SU to win 34-17. Shows what I know.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 10, 2013, 08:19:13 AM
just saw week 1 top 25. What a difficult thing to try to figure out. I'm glad I don't vote. While I agree with Salisbury dropping out, and CNU getting votes, I still think H-SC should be getting more votes than CNU. Maybe I just like being the underdog!!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2013, 08:21:49 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 10, 2013, 08:19:13 AM
just saw week 1 top 25. What a difficult thing to try to figure out. I'm glad I don't vote. While I agree with Salisbury dropping out, and CNU getting votes, I still think H-SC should be getting more votes than CNU. Maybe I just like being the underdog!!
Congratulations to CNU on a great win last week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: moshergc9 on September 10, 2013, 10:50:07 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 09, 2013, 03:42:14 PM
I've become accustomed to a somewhat non-partisan approach by the Public Address Announcer at most football games, so I was a bit surprised to hear the Greensboro announcer quite audibly say "Stick 'em, boys!" on a Guilford kick-off return.  Is this sort of "homer" instinct normal for a Public Address Announcer or did he inadvertently have his mic on?  lol

That is great!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on September 10, 2013, 11:33:45 AM
CNU 85

Congrats on the win. I don't see how HSC should be getting more votes; CNU beat a ranked team; HSC played a very poor and unranked team. Saturday nights game should be exciting. Good luck. May the best team win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 10, 2013, 02:11:16 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 10, 2013, 08:10:20 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 09, 2013, 07:37:43 PM
Going with recent USAC history out of conference and how the entire conference has struggled I thought having an opening game at a top 20 was a sure fire loss for CNU. Not trying to talk bad about them, or take anything away, but numbers don't lie.  Most people, regardless of division, would have favored a 16 ranked team over a 58th ranked team in the first game of the year.  Great win for the Captains and I hope they, and the rest of the conference, win out OOC. This bull crap of starting week 4 with under .500 teams is bad.

CNU is now 3-10 on opening day because of scheduling as tough as they can (although, I'm sure Shenandoah was scheduled for other reasons). Historically CNU non conf games have been brutal with the likes of Salisbury, Rowen, Wesley, UMHB, and Bridgewater back in their ranked days. And now starting to play teams like H-SC. It is fun to watch and good to see how your team stacks up...but CNU's OOC record is sub .500.

And I picked SU to win 34-17. Shows what I know.

that's kind of what I'm saying. Over the years CNU has opened up with rough games. For not being a CNU fan and I'm really really really happy and glad they pulled out the win. I want all of our teams to win every OOC games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 11, 2013, 08:56:56 AM
Beat a ranked team and you get noticed. D3football guys have done a tremendous job covering CNU this week. The ATN podcast touched on CNU and how academics have impacted the team in recent years. The ATR story by Adam this week was nice as well. I have the pleasure and the honor to not only watch CNU players on Saturday, but I also have had many players in my classes over the years. This year is the same....2 on the team are in my Senior finance class. I see how hard the have to work in my class and how hard they work on the field. They come to class with ice on their shoulders after practice, and sit in my class at night staying focused when they are just beat! Same holds true for the track team members, and softball, and all the other sports athletes that have to stay awake during my boring class!


All d3 student athletes have my utmost respect!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 11, 2013, 09:04:56 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 11, 2013, 08:56:56 AM
Beat a ranked team and you get noticed. D3football guys have done a tremendous job covering CNU this week. The ATN podcast touched on CNU and how academics have impacted the team in recent years. The ATR story by Adam this week was nice as well. I have the pleasure and the honor to not only watch CNU players on Saturday, but I also have had many players in my classes over the years. This year is the same....2 on the team are in my Senior finance class. I see how hard the have to work in my class and how hard they work on the field. They come to class with ice on their shoulders after practice, and sit in my class at night staying focused when they are just beat! Same holds true for the track team members, and softball, and all the other sports athletes that have to stay awake during my boring class!


All d3 student athletes have my utmost respect!

I remember back in the day having to do the same thing in my accounting classes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 11, 2013, 09:10:49 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on September 11, 2013, 09:04:56 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 11, 2013, 08:56:56 AM
Beat a ranked team and you get noticed. D3football guys have done a tremendous job covering CNU this week. The ATN podcast touched on CNU and how academics have impacted the team in recent years. The ATR story by Adam this week was nice as well. I have the pleasure and the honor to not only watch CNU players on Saturday, but I also have had many players in my classes over the years. This year is the same....2 on the team are in my Senior finance class. I see how hard the have to work in my class and how hard they work on the field. They come to class with ice on their shoulders after practice, and sit in my class at night staying focused when they are just beat! Same holds true for the track team members, and softball, and all the other sports athletes that have to stay awake during my boring class!


All d3 student athletes have my utmost respect!

I remember back in the day having to do the same thing in my accounting classes.

In my day, I sat in accounting class with a guy named Sam. We sat in the back, with empty coke cans, and skoal!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 14, 2013, 07:18:51 PM
Fantastic football game at mu today...the monarchs pulled out a41 - 34 win in a game that was the definition of a shoot out - at the end of the day mu had more play makers.- reber threw for 318 w 3 tads (1 int) and rushed for another 115, including a 74 td that was spectacular...he made some great throws and the monarch receivers made some spectacular catches - the guilford qb is very good...tough kid, good athlete and throws a great short to intermediate ball...his receivers let him down with a number of drops - the gcq rb had a great night, going for 172

Atmosphere was great, day was beautiful and mu got a win...only thing that could have made it better is if I had met up w hasanova :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Goose13 on September 14, 2013, 09:40:10 PM
Congrats to the Captains on another great win. I'm not sure if they've ever started off 2-0 on any season since the program began. CNU85 might be able to shed some light on that subject. 17-7 win over HSC with Shenandoah next weekend and a chance to start 3-0 heading into conference play. I like the way this season is beginning.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 14, 2013, 09:46:19 PM
First time ever 2-0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Goose13 on September 14, 2013, 09:48:29 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 14, 2013, 09:46:19 PM
First time ever 2-0

Without referring to the trusty CNU media guide, I thought my hunch was correct. A thousand thank you's Mr. Finance man  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 14, 2013, 10:05:37 PM
Anytime. Of course it is easy to figure out when CNU is 3-10 on opening day. The only other possible year was the win against waynesburg to start the season. I had to look that up. The other opening day win was in 2007 against Rowan. I was in the radio booth that day calling the game. Then the following week I flew down to UMHB and I remembered that outcome.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Goose13 on September 14, 2013, 10:39:09 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 14, 2013, 10:05:37 PM
Anytime. Of course it is easy to figure out when CNU is 3-10 on opening day. The only other possible year was the win against waynesburg to start the season. I had to look that up. The other opening day win was in 2007 against Rowan. I was in the radio booth that day calling the game. Then the following week I flew down to UMHB and I remembered that outcome.

I remember that game with you calling with Franky T. I didn't see the 3-10 stat in your post until after I posted initially and inserted mouth in foot. LOL. I think I may have to hit up my contact for tickets to next weekend's game. I know the place should be a zoo with it being family weekend and all. What was the crown like tonight?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Goose13 on September 14, 2013, 10:41:21 PM
Wow I just looked at the box. Talk to me about the CNU secondary with 5 picks. I'm still staggering at the 72 passing attempts by the HSC QB.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Goose13 on September 14, 2013, 10:44:08 PM
Quote from: Goose13 on September 14, 2013, 10:39:09 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 14, 2013, 10:05:37 PM
Anytime. Of course it is easy to figure out when CNU is 3-10 on opening day. The only other possible year was the win against waynesburg to start the season. I had to look that up. The other opening day win was in 2007 against Rowan. I was in the radio booth that day calling the game. Then the following week I flew down to UMHB and I remembered that outcome.

I remember that game with you calling with Franky T. I didn't see the 3-10 stat in your post until after I posted initially and inserted mouth in foot. LOL. I think I may have to hit up my contact for tickets to next weekend's game. I know the place should be a zoo with it being family weekend and all. What was the crown like tonight?

Scratch that CNU85, I just read your post on the ODAC board and just saw the box. Officially listed at 6675, that's a helluva lot of people to pack POMOCO!! That's awesome to hear!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 14, 2013, 10:49:26 PM
72 passes, but longest was 22. Averaged 8.1 per completion. HSC had 14 possessions. 8 turnovers. Can't win that way. 45-72. Thats 27 incompletions. Actually 22, 5 were caught by CNU. A lot of dropped balls and also poorly thrown balls.

CNU D held tough. People stepping in and playing huge. Offense looks the most balanced I have ever seen a CNU team. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 14, 2013, 11:14:22 PM
Nice season opening win on the road for Huntingdon 35-7 over Miss College. Too many penalties and turnovers but stuff that can and should be fixed by next week. The defense looked really strong all around and the offensive line was opening huge holes all night. I haven't seen a box score yet but I think we probably had a big number of rushing yards.
We have a lot of work to do to prepare for a tough Louisiana College next week but hopefully we will be ready.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 15, 2013, 09:01:20 AM
Got to watch the CNU v. H-SC game last night. I was very very impress with CNU defense. CNU defense was stout. Other than the last TD at the end of the game, they eliminated every opportunity that H-SC had. They got off the field when they had to, even some big 4th down plays. However, I think that the offense needs to capitalize on some of the defensive opportunities. Yet, if the defense can keep opponents off the scoreboard, I guess you can be happy with that. In all honesty, I think the defense can dominate, in the last two weeks, they have faced a predominantly running team (after this week) in Salisbury that they kept in check, then turn around and kept a predominantly passing team in check. I personally think CNU is a Top 25 team and should be in there this week. Congrats, Enjoyed the game, good luck the remaining of the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 15, 2013, 11:16:48 AM
Go Hawks
The OL were dominating
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 15, 2013, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: narch on September 14, 2013, 07:18:51 PM
Fantastic football game at mu today...the monarchs pulled out a41 - 34 win in a game that was the definition of a shoot out - at the end of the day mu had more play makers.- reber threw for 318 w 3 tads (1 int) and rushed for another 115, including a 74 td that was spectacular...he made some great throws and the monarch receivers made some spectacular catches - the guilford qb is very good...tough kid, good athlete and throws a great short to intermediate ball...his receivers let him down with a number of drops - the gcq rb had a great night, going for 172

Atmosphere was great, day was beautiful and mu got a win...only thing that could have made it better is if I had met up w hasanova :)
Thanks, narch.  I was there - wish I had seen you also.  It was a great game ... and winnable by both squads.  I was very impressed with MU QB Reber and his receivers.  They were the difference.  I think two plays turned the tide for Guilford:  the blocked FG that should have given GC a 13-10 lead that MU ran back deep and turned into a TD just before the half and the inexplicable (to me) on-side kick with a 34-34 tie score and 4:48 to go.  I think GC gave MU great field position and should have taken our chances on defense with a deeper kick.  Sigh.  I do agree with you, however, there were a lot of dropped balls by GC ... otherwise our Sophomore QA Pawlowski played a heady game.  Before he's done, I think he'll be one of our best.   Good luck to the Monarchs the rest of the way.   

On another note, I do not think I have ever seen as many students involved in sideline support.  Between the football team, the Lionettes, the cheerleaders, the dance squad and the marching band, there were, what?, maybe twenty students left to simply watch the game from the stands?  :)  Seriously, that sort of support was great and certainly added positively to the atmosphere.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on September 16, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
CNU85

Congrats on the victory and good luck the remainder of the season. Really enjoyed the experience. Hopefully HSC and CNU will continue to schedule each other going forward.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 16, 2013, 08:41:51 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 16, 2013, 09:30:06 AM
CNU85

Congrats on the victory and good luck the remainder of the season. Really enjoyed the experience. Hopefully HSC and CNU will continue to schedule each other going forward.

I hope so too! I like the idea of an OOC rival......maybe this will develop into one if we keep playing each other.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 18, 2013, 10:14:58 PM
adam turner wrote about mu sophomore db letovis davis in around the mid-atlantic...davis had a huge game vs. cnu to close the season last year, and then was shot in his hometown of nashville, nc (not far from rocky mount)...he's back and playing well this season

http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/mid-atlantic/index
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 19, 2013, 08:02:48 AM
Quote from: narch on September 18, 2013, 10:14:58 PM
adam turner wrote about mu sophomore db letovis davis in around the mid-atlantic...davis had a huge game vs. cnu to close the season last year, and then was shot in his hometown of nashville, nc (not far from rocky mount)...he's back and playing well this season

http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/mid-atlantic/index
I read this article earlier in the week ... really glad he's back and playing well. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 19, 2013, 09:07:50 AM
I read that article as well. The world is crazy! I'm really glad Davis made it out ok and is on the field again. Amazing he was shot four times and recovered. You can tell he is a strong kid...physically and mentally!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 19, 2013, 09:40:00 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 19, 2013, 09:07:50 AM
I read that article as well. The world is crazy! I'm really glad Davis made it out ok and is on the field again. Amazing he was shot four times and recovered. You can tell he is a strong kid...physically and mentally!

Yes, four times is amazing. As he mentioned, not to many people get second chances, even with one bullet. Great Story!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 19, 2013, 01:46:01 PM
Glad to see he's healthy and playing well.  Does anyone know any other developments of the Ferrum player murdered last year? Last I read, one man was arrested.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 20, 2013, 08:40:01 AM
Hawks and DG, looking at the weather and it looks unfortunate for tomorrow in Montgomery. I'm still planning on going and would like to stop by and say hi again. Hopefully I'll get to see a win this year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 20, 2013, 10:24:28 AM
Averett at Guilford tomorrow at 7 PM.  Hope some Cougar fans can make the trip. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 20, 2013, 01:36:42 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 20, 2013, 08:40:01 AM
Hawks and DG, looking at the weather and it looks unfortunate for tomorrow in Montgomery. I'm still planning on going and would like to stop by and say hi again. Hopefully I'll get to see a win this year!
Yep, looking like a rainy day for the home opener but hopefully the heavy stuff will be gone by game time. Either way we plan to be there bright and early as usual, probably huddled under our canopy most of the morning trying to get the grill lit. :)
Hopefully it will be a good game and the weather won't cause any sloppy play.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUgrad40 on September 21, 2013, 10:23:25 AM
Wish I could make it to the game today at Guilford.  I am sure that the young men at Averett will be ready to play!  Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 21, 2013, 03:40:11 PM
As posted on the ODAC board:

Ouch!  Was that a Wasp or a train that ran over the Methodist Monarchs today in Fayetteville?

Final  E&H 61, Methodist 22
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 21, 2013, 03:53:58 PM
E&H is for real. I have no idea why they don't get more recognition.
I went to the MC/E&H game and there was not a single second I wasn't scared they might go off and light up the scoreboard.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 21, 2013, 04:01:02 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 21, 2013, 03:53:58 PM
E&H is for real. I have no idea why they don't get more recognition.
I went to the MC/E&H game and there was not a single second I wasn't scared they might go off and light up the scoreboard.
They'll probably get more recognition now!  Guilford plays them to end the regular season each year - yikes!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on September 21, 2013, 04:23:56 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 21, 2013, 03:53:58 PM
E&H is for real. I have no idea why they don't get more recognition.
I went to the MC/E&H game and there was not a single second I wasn't scared they might go off and light up the scoreboard.

They're coming off several so-so years, and like most ODAC teams they usually find a way to lose focus and drop a game they shouldn't, but as hasanova said they should get some recognition now. It's pretty hard to ignore a (near) double monkey-stomp.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 21, 2013, 05:08:58 PM
Looks like Huntingdon gets the win over Louisiana College, this game down to the wire.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on September 21, 2013, 05:09:25 PM
Greensboro 34, Apprentice School 21 final
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 21, 2013, 06:51:05 PM
Hawks88
Great to see yall, rain or not. Fun to stand in the end zone with jknezek ( he can come back an time, and i'll happily buy him another Cola)

In the 4th quarter Ms Jayne asked "If we lose, will you still say it was a good game"...i looked at her and said "yep"

and it was , just like 3 yrs ago in Pineville........ 2 equally matched teams.

Huntingdon was just the last to score, like last time..  :o
keep the faith and Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 21, 2013, 08:08:39 PM
Halftime. CNU up 24-0. Morast gets hurt. Garner comes in. First pass was 83 yd td.  Second pass 53 yd td. Defense is stout. Only a few missed tackles. Almost had a pick 6. Second half should be fun.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 21, 2013, 09:17:44 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 21, 2013, 06:51:05 PM
Hawks88
Great to see yall, rain or not. Fun to stand in the end zone with jknezek ( he can come back an time, and i'll happily buy him another Cola)

In the 4th quarter Ms Jayne asked "If we lose, will you still say it was a good game"...i looked at her and said "yep"

and it was , just like 3 yrs ago in Pineville........ 2 equally matched teams.

Huntingdon was just the last to score, like last time..  :o
keep the faith and Go Hawks
Yep, good to see you guys today. We're finally getting dried out over here. Loved the two clutch drives in the 4th to come back and get the win. Could end up being a huge win as the season progresses.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 21, 2013, 10:06:40 PM
CNU wins 34-6. Great game. Second largest crowd in history. Second only to last week. CNU called off the dogs in second half. Lots of players got in the game. Now a week off! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 23, 2013, 09:56:18 PM
Hawks88
i am planning to drive over for the first USA South conference game and Homecoming this saturday.

hope we can hang with Ferrum, got to play smarter & quit giving the other folk points
keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 23, 2013, 10:46:46 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 23, 2013, 09:56:18 PM
Hawks88
i am planning to drive over for the first USA South conference game and Homecoming this saturday.

hope we can hang with Ferrum, got to play smarter & quit giving the other folk points
keep the faith
Go Hawks
We should see you there. You likely won't find us at our normal tailgating spot before the game. It's my class' 25 year reunion so we are doing the alumni tailgate thing.
I think the guys will be really focused for the first conference game. If we can keep improving I think we will be okay.
Looks like the weather is supposed to be nice Saturday so that's good.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 26, 2013, 10:16:59 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on September 21, 2013, 04:23:56 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 21, 2013, 03:53:58 PM
E&H is for real. I have no idea why they don't get more recognition.
I went to the MC/E&H game and there was not a single second I wasn't scared they might go off and light up the scoreboard.

They're coming off several so-so years, and like most ODAC teams they usually find a way to lose focus and drop a game they shouldn't, but as hasanova said they should get some recognition now. It's pretty hard to ignore a (near) double monkey-stomp.
Statistically, assuming most teams are created equally (probably not), there should be 1/8 of the teams undefeated after week three.  To keep things simple, I'll use 256 as an approximation of the number of teams playing DIII football.  This means about 32 undefeated teams are vying for the Top 25 - plus teams such as St. Thomas, Wesley, Franklin, Wittenberg, Widener and Cal Lutheran who lost head-to-head match-ups with other Top 25 teams or traditional rivals.  In my opinion, that's one reason E&H is not getting "a lot of recognition" so far.  Personally, I don't think the Wasps will be on the national radar unless they start at least 5-0.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 26, 2013, 01:11:51 PM
wrong board, 'nova...i don't want to see any more talk of ehc after seeing them run roughshod over the monarchs last week...that wasn't pretty :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 26, 2013, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 26, 2013, 10:16:59 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on September 21, 2013, 04:23:56 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 21, 2013, 03:53:58 PM
E&H is for real. I have no idea why they don't get more recognition.
I went to the MC/E&H game and there was not a single second I wasn't scared they might go off and light up the scoreboard.

They're coming off several so-so years, and like most ODAC teams they usually find a way to lose focus and drop a game they shouldn't, but as hasanova said they should get some recognition now. It's pretty hard to ignore a (near) double monkey-stomp.
Statistically, assuming most teams are created equally (probably not), there should be 1/8 of the teams undefeated after week three.  To keep things simple, I'll use 256 as an approximation of the number of teams playing DIII football.  This means about 32 undefeated teams are vying for the Top 25 - plus teams such as St. Thomas, Wesley, Franklin, Wittenberg, Widener and Cal Lutheran who lost head-to-head match-ups with other Top 25 teams or traditional rivals.  In my opinion, that's one reason E&H is not getting "a lot of recognition" so far.  Personally, I don't think the Wasps will be on the national radar unless they start at least 5-0.

I wasn't necessarily referring to the Top 25 as much as I was the South Region at the time. Other than if they were playing UMHB, I'd say it would be a toss up most Saturday afternoon with h2h's against other South teams.

Did I expect them to be as solid as they are this year? No. Honestly I can't stand E&H. But I'm giving credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 26, 2013, 02:21:52 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 26, 2013, 01:42:42 PM

Did I expect them to be as solid as they are this year? No. Honestly I can't stand E&H. But I'm giving credit where credit is due.

Except we don't really know if credit is due. This year E&H started the year 3-0 beating Ferrum, Maryville, and Methodist. Last year E&H started the year 3-0 beating Ferrum, Maryville and Methodist before a very mediocre 3-4 ODAC campaign. In 2011, E&H started the year 3-1 beating Ferrum, Greensboro and Methodist (losing to Virginia-Wise), before going a very mediocre 2-4 in the ODAC. In 2010 E&H started the year 4-0, beating Ferrum, Greensboro, Methodist and Virginia-Wise, before going a sorry 1-5 in the ODAC. In 2009 E&H started the year 4-0, beating Ferrum, Greensboro, NCW, and Methodist, before going 3-3 in the ODAC.

In other words, in the last 4 complete seasons, beating Ferrum, Methodist and another USASC has been E&H's modus operandi, but it hasn't really done them a lick of good when they've had to play ODAC teams.

This year may be different. Certainly instead of just beating the USASC teams, they steamrolled them. But the fact remained, they have gone 13-0 (16-0 counting this year) in the last 4 complete seasons against USASC teams, and then proceeded to go 9-16 against the ODAC.

We will see if this year is different, but for anyone familiar with this history it is somewhat difficult to get real excited right now about E&H rolling over some USASC teams.

** Game results compliments of the d3football.com site **
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUgrad40 on September 26, 2013, 02:51:44 PM
Anybody have any information on NC Wesleyan??  I understand that they have been rebuilding lately at well.  Just want to know wha to expect.

Thanks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 26, 2013, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 26, 2013, 02:21:52 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 26, 2013, 01:42:42 PM

Did I expect them to be as solid as they are this year? No. Honestly I can't stand E&H. But I'm giving credit where credit is due.

Except we don't really know if credit is due. This year E&H started the year 3-0 beating Ferrum, Maryville, and Methodist. Last year E&H started the year 3-0 beating Ferrum, Maryville and Methodist before a very mediocre 3-4 ODAC campaign. In 2011, E&H started the year 3-1 beating Ferrum, Greensboro and Methodist (losing to Virginia-Wise), before going a very mediocre 2-4 in the ODAC. In 2010 E&H started the year 4-0, beating Ferrum, Greensboro, Methodist and Virginia-Wise, before going a sorry 1-5 in the ODAC. In 2009 E&H started the year 4-0, beating Ferrum, Greensboro, NCW, and Methodist, before going 3-3 in the ODAC.

In other words, in the last 4 complete seasons, beating Ferrum, Methodist and another USASC has been E&H's modus operandi, but it hasn't really done them a lick of good when they've had to play ODAC teams.

This year may be different. Certainly instead of just beating the USASC teams, they steamrolled them. But the fact remained, they have gone 13-0 (16-0 counting this year) in the last 4 complete seasons against USASC teams, and then proceeded to go 9-16 against the ODAC.

We will see if this year is different, but for anyone familiar with this history it is somewhat difficult to get real excited right now about E&H rolling over some USASC teams.

** Game results compliments of the d3football.com site **

Great analysis. +1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 26, 2013, 05:12:28 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 26, 2013, 02:21:52 PMExcept we don't really know if credit is due. This year E&H started the year 3-0 beating Ferrum, Maryville, and Methodist. Last year E&H started the year 3-0 beating Ferrum, Maryville and Methodist before a very mediocre 3-4 ODAC campaign. In 2011, E&H started the year 3-1 beating Ferrum, Greensboro and Methodist (losing to Virginia-Wise), before going a very mediocre 2-4 in the ODAC. In 2010 E&H started the year 4-0, beating Ferrum, Greensboro, Methodist and Virginia-Wise, before going a sorry 1-5 in the ODAC. In 2009 E&H started the year 4-0, beating Ferrum, Greensboro, NCW, and Methodist, before going 3-3 in the ODAC.
i watched the mu/ehc game with someone who has seen almost every mu/ehc game, and he said without question they are better than they've ever been...we'll see if that translates in odac play, but i can tell you i've seen a fair number of mu/ehc games, and they were on another level saturday - they may have played their absolute best possible game and mu may have played as poorly as they've played in a long time (i think both of those might be true), but i've seen enough to say they are legit...unless they go 2-4 in the odac :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 26, 2013, 05:23:39 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 26, 2013, 02:21:52 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 26, 2013, 01:42:42 PM

Did I expect them to be as solid as they are this year? No. Honestly I can't stand E&H. But I'm giving credit where credit is due.

Except we don't really know if credit is due. This year E&H started the year 3-0 beating Ferrum, Maryville, and Methodist. Last year E&H started the year 3-0 beating Ferrum, Maryville and Methodist before a very mediocre 3-4 ODAC campaign. In 2011, E&H started the year 3-1 beating Ferrum, Greensboro and Methodist (losing to Virginia-Wise), before going a very mediocre 2-4 in the ODAC. In 2010 E&H started the year 4-0, beating Ferrum, Greensboro, Methodist and Virginia-Wise, before going a sorry 1-5 in the ODAC. In 2009 E&H started the year 4-0, beating Ferrum, Greensboro, NCW, and Methodist, before going 3-3 in the ODAC.

In other words, in the last 4 complete seasons, beating Ferrum, Methodist and another USASC has been E&H's modus operandi, but it hasn't really done them a lick of good when they've had to play ODAC teams.

This year may be different. Certainly instead of just beating the USASC teams, they steamrolled them. But the fact remained, they have gone 13-0 (16-0 counting this year) in the last 4 complete seasons against USASC teams, and then proceeded to go 9-16 against the ODAC.

We will see if this year is different, but for anyone familiar with this history it is somewhat difficult to get real excited right now about E&H rolling over some USASC teams.

** Game results compliments of the d3football.com site **

+K for the analysis.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2013, 06:37:57 PM
Keith and I postulated the same in the Around the Nation podcast this week. E&H could well be better than in previous years but it's hard to tell because they're run through the non-conference schedule before.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 26, 2013, 08:34:57 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2013, 06:37:57 PM
Keith and I postulated the same in the Around the Nation podcast this week. E&H could well be better than in previous years but it's hard to tell because they're run through the non-conference schedule before.
I said it a few times as well before in the context of the ODAC's generally unimpressive non conf schedule. It is what it is and we will know more going forward. I will admit I read the columns religiously but rarely listen to the podcast. Can't do it at work and too much to do when I get home!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crazylegs33 on September 27, 2013, 12:24:10 PM
While it is not proper for a team to look ahead to the end of the season, I am no longer an active CNU player and can do as I please  ;D

With such a great start out of the blocks and the success of the past 3 seasons, CNU is primed to do something that hasn't been done since year 4 of the program. That is the seniors going 4 years with 4 championships. The first time around, 14 players from the 1st team remained on the 4th championship team. Thus they were annointed "The 14". Since that 1st group, only one other player has won 4 championships in 4 years of play (without ever losing the conf championship). The 15th guy you can figure out. There's some good trivia for you. Haha.

More importantly, 13 players on CNU's current roster have the potential to join that elite group of CNU champions. 4 for 4. Make it happen!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 27, 2013, 03:14:38 PM
Quote from: narch on September 26, 2013, 01:11:51 PM
wrong board, 'nova...i don't want to see any more talk of ehc after seeing them run roughshod over the monarchs last week...that wasn't pretty :)
The ODAC board got its dose too, narch.  The seven other teams in the ODAC will get their chance also.  I have to say I was shocked when I saw the EHC,MU score ... and it had to be hard to take for Monarchs fans who came to see two 2-0 teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 28, 2013, 05:54:56 PM
MC 35
MU 26

Another hard fought game in the series. A bunch of shoulda, woulda, coulda's for Maryville. Getting stopped inside the 1 is NOT MC Football. Only thing that irked me about the game. MU never stopped. They will make some noise in the conference this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 28, 2013, 07:46:33 PM
Not much defense played today in Montgomery as the teams combine for over 1300 yds of offense in a 56-35 win for Huntingdon over Ferrum. We will have to play much better on the defensive side to have any kind of chance in Dover next week.
Couldn't have for a more beautiful day for homecoming though.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 28, 2013, 08:16:23 PM
Hawks88

Like you said today, the Hawks have a tough time with option O's when run well, and the kid from Ferrum could run it perty good. Great to see yall, stay safe and Lord willing we will see yall in on Sept 19 in LaGrange.

The Hawks OL play has been outstanding this year, and was again today.

We need to play D like we did the first 2 games if we got a chance in Delaware.

The folk we met from Va were all very nice folk, i wish them a safe journey back  home.

It was good to see a bunch of the boy's (son) old team mates ( in particular a lurker on this board....former OL hero Garrison)

stay safe & keep the faith
Go Hawks 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 28, 2013, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 28, 2013, 05:54:56 PM
MC 35
MU 26

Another hard fought game in the series. A bunch of shoulda, woulda, coulda's for Maryville. Getting stopped inside the 1 is NOT MC Football. Only thing that irked me about the game. MU never stopped. They will make some noise in the conference this year.
watched the game on live stats throughout the afternoon... Looked like a good game...the MU fumble on a 19 yard run for a first down looked like a big blow to the monarchs...reber w 370+ yards and 0 TDs...hard to do...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 28, 2013, 10:38:42 PM
NARCH
MY MAN AT THE DEXTER LAKE CLUB.  He loves us man!

Any word or contact with ADMIRAL Papi? Has he gone over to the black side of his job; only handling sensitive? I see the casualty lists daily so he has not been whacked

RLTW!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 29, 2013, 06:25:52 PM
Quote from: narch on September 28, 2013, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 28, 2013, 05:54:56 PM
MC 35
MU 26

Another hard fought game in the series. A bunch of shoulda, woulda, coulda's for Maryville. Getting stopped inside the 1 is NOT MC Football. Only thing that irked me about the game. MU never stopped. They will make some noise in the conference this year.
watched the game on live stats throughout the afternoon... Looked like a good game...the MU fumble on a 19 yard run for a first down looked like a big blow to the monarchs...reber w 370+ yards and 0 TDs...hard to do...

I'll tell ya, narch, I'm not surprised at the way the game ended. Last year was pretty much down the wire 28-24; last time MU came to East Tennessee we needed the d3football.com play of the week (PI in the endzone, interception, fumble out the endzone, picked up for TD) for a 26-24 win; year before that a 17-14 MU win. The year before that (2009) was an MC 36-30 win.
Crunch the numbers and you have 2 evenly matched teams that have been duking it out for 5 straight years. That's what small college football is all about, in my opinion.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on October 01, 2013, 02:40:43 PM
if both CNU and Huntingdon go undeafeated in conference, which team gets the automatic bid ?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 01, 2013, 03:09:50 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on October 01, 2013, 02:40:43 PM
if both CNU and Huntingdon go undeafeated in conference, which team gets the automatic bid ?

If I remember an ATN column from 2007 or so, it was conference record, head to head, and then coin toss. That may be wrong, or it may be right and have changed in the last six years, but that's what I remember.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 01, 2013, 04:51:27 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 01, 2013, 03:09:50 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on October 01, 2013, 02:40:43 PM
if both CNU and Huntingdon go undeafeated in conference, which team gets the automatic bid ?

If I remember an ATN column from 2007 or so, it was conference record, head to head, and then coin toss. That may be wrong, or it may be right and have changed in the last six years, but that's what I remember.
Then I think that the USA South fans would want CNU to lose the coin toss.  (I am going on the assumption that Huntingdon loses to Wesley in DE and then both teams run the table in conference.)    ;)

CNU would get a Pool C bid and Huntingdon would get the Pool A.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 01, 2013, 06:46:30 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 01, 2013, 04:51:27 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 01, 2013, 03:09:50 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on October 01, 2013, 02:40:43 PM
if both CNU and Huntingdon go undeafeated in conference, which team gets the automatic bid ?

If I remember an ATN column from 2007 or so, it was conference record, head to head, and then coin toss. That may be wrong, or it may be right and have changed in the last six years, but that's what I remember.
Then I think that the USA South fans would want CNU to lose the coin toss.  (I am going on the assumption that Huntingdon loses to Wesley in DE and then both teams run the table in conference.)    ;)

CNU would get a Pool C bid and Huntingdon would get the Pool A.

You boys might be jumping the gun. Both still have Maryville on the schedule. ;D

But in reality, the schedule is not in MC's favor. At CNU in a few weeks and at Huntingdon week 10. Ouch.  CNU and Huntingdon are looking good for a run at the playoffs this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 01, 2013, 07:19:20 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 01, 2013, 06:46:30 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 01, 2013, 04:51:27 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 01, 2013, 03:09:50 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on October 01, 2013, 02:40:43 PM
if both CNU and Huntingdon go undeafeated in conference, which team gets the automatic bid ?

If I remember an ATN column from 2007 or so, it was conference record, head to head, and then coin toss. That may be wrong, or it may be right and have changed in the last six years, but that's what I remember.
Then I think that the USA South fans would want CNU to lose the coin toss.  (I am going on the assumption that Huntingdon loses to Wesley in DE and then both teams run the table in conference.)    ;)

CNU would get a Pool C bid and Huntingdon would get the Pool A.

You boys might be jumping the gun. Both still have Maryville on the schedule. ;D

But in reality, the schedule is not in MC's favor. At CNU in a few weeks and at Huntingdon week 10. Ouch.  CNU and Huntingdon are looking good for a run at the playoffs this year.

Not me. I was just answering the question. There is a long way to go but I think Huntingdon and CNU's schedule is favorable.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 01, 2013, 08:17:43 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 01, 2013, 07:19:20 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 01, 2013, 06:46:30 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 01, 2013, 04:51:27 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 01, 2013, 03:09:50 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on October 01, 2013, 02:40:43 PM
if both CNU and Huntingdon go undeafeated in conference, which team gets the automatic bid ?

If I remember an ATN column from 2007 or so, it was conference record, head to head, and then coin toss. That may be wrong, or it may be right and have changed in the last six years, but that's what I remember.
Then I think that the USA South fans would want CNU to lose the coin toss.  (I am going on the assumption that Huntingdon loses to Wesley in DE and then both teams run the table in conference.)    ;)

CNU would get a Pool C bid and Huntingdon would get the Pool A.

You boys might be jumping the gun. Both still have Maryville on the schedule. ;D

But in reality, the schedule is not in MC's favor. At CNU in a few weeks and at Huntingdon week 10. Ouch.  CNU and Huntingdon are looking good for a run at the playoffs this year.

Not me. I was just answering the question. There is a long way to go but I think Huntingdon and CNU's schedule is favorable.

I agree 110% with you.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 01, 2013, 08:19:09 PM
Murrvual... MURRVUL... the hawks got to go through.................... wait... iseems i do remember 2005... in the Hawks 3rd yr, they were 7-1, with the only loss to Trinity 15-10 (and Trinity that year went to the Stagg)...

We are going to the playoffs after only 3 yrs

we only got to beat Murrvul, who came to town ... and wrecked it  :(

Murrvul beat the Hawks 35-31..........................no playoffs

so, Hawk fans never ever dismiss Maryville College (who's O line Coach is my sons friend, and whos head coach recruited the boy (son) ;)

keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 01, 2013, 09:12:48 PM
I'm not wishing the season go by faster than it is, but I can't wait for the game down in Alabama. It has the making to be one heck of a show.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 01, 2013, 10:13:13 PM
Scots

it has been a real good rivalry
i pray yall win allllll but 1 of yalls remaining games  ;D

yalls head coach and OL coach are both real fine fellers (i spect so are the rest)

keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2013, 01:33:59 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 01, 2013, 03:09:50 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on October 01, 2013, 02:40:43 PM
if both CNU and Huntingdon go undeafeated in conference, which team gets the automatic bid ?

If I remember an ATN column from 2007 or so, it was conference record, head to head, and then coin toss. That may be wrong, or it may be right and have changed in the last six years, but that's what I remember.
of course if both go undeafeted and don't have a head-to-head game (they don't), that leaves just one option :)

i'm not sure if anything has changed with the addition of conference games and the fact that there is now an unbalanced schedule with each team not playing one other conference foe, but i think it may still come down to the toss of a coin...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 02, 2013, 02:47:16 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 01, 2013, 10:13:13 PM
Scots

it has been a real good rivalry
i pray yall win allllll but 1 of yalls remaining games  ;D

yalls head coach and OL coach are both real fine fellers (i spect so are the rest)

keep the faith
The sentiment is mutual.  I enjoyed the series with HC, just wish we could win more of them.

Hope yall put on a great showing in Delaware.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: @d3jason on October 02, 2013, 07:58:14 PM
Trinity went to the Stagg Bowl in 2002 I believe. Thought they were 9-0 in '05 I think with the Depauw cancel by hurricane.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 02, 2013, 08:51:37 PM
you are correct, Trinity went to the Stagg in 2002 (i had to look it up).
the rest of my 2005 story was correct..........................i think........, and as i said we lost to Trinity 10-15.

my memory of that year is the same as mine is of when i played ball....i am sure i scored many many touchdowns 40 yrs ago, and was a star..., but... i think i was a guard/center ? weird  ;D

thanks for making me go look it up, and thanks for being kind  :)
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 02, 2013, 09:47:53 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 01, 2013, 08:19:09 PM
Murrvual... MURRVUL... the hawks got to go through.................... wait... iseems i do remember 2005... in the Hawks 3rd yr, they were 7-1, with the only loss to Trinity 15-10 (and Trinity that year went to the Stagg)...

We are going to the playoffs after only 3 yrs

we only got to beat Murrvul, who came to town ... and wrecked it  :(

Murrvul beat the Hawks 35-31..........................no playoffs

so, Hawk fans never ever dismiss Maryville College (who's O line Coach is my sons friend, and whos head coach recruited the boy (son) ;)

keep the faith
I remember that one like it was yesterday DGP. Unfortunately it isn't our only season ending loss where a win would have gotten us into the playoffs(or at least seriously considered for it). Last year vs. Adrian. The year before at Wesley. '08 at LaGrange.  :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 02, 2013, 09:59:43 PM
Last year's loss to Adrian hurt,....... but not as bad as the LaGrange...........
Only time LaGrange has beat the Hawks in varsity football, and it had to be when we could have won our first conference

And even worse.... you going and 'besmirching' or such the good name of the panther faithful

classic

i still laugh at that
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 02, 2013, 10:28:11 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 02, 2013, 09:59:43 PM

And even worse.... you going and 'besmirching' or such the good name of the panther faithful

classic

i still laugh at that
Hey, if it helped one person sharpen their calendar reading skills then it was worth it.  ;)

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 02, 2013, 10:45:48 PM

:D
Amen
Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 03, 2013, 12:57:59 PM
DG,

I've noticed this a few weeks ago, but I figured now is the best time to address it..
THANK YOU for knowing how to pronounce Maryville.  Most people from other schools say 'Mary-ville' when locals and everyone else with a brain say MURVUL.  I'm glad at least 1 man in Alabama has a brain. ;)
I've had people ask me why we say it the way we do. Only answer I can give them is in an example. Do you say 'Mary-land' or 'Mara-lund'? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on October 03, 2013, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 03, 2013, 12:57:59 PM
DG,

I've noticed this a few weeks ago, but I figured now is the best time to address it..
THANK YOU for knowing how to pronounce Maryville.  Most people from other schools say 'Mary-ville' when locals and everyone else with a brain say MURVUL.  I'm glad at least 1 man in Alabama has a brain. ;)
I've had people ask me why we say it the way we do. Only answer I can give them is in an example. Do you say 'Mary-land' or 'Mara-lund'?

Never thought of it that way before, and +k for such a good example. I will say, however, that I noticed during the years I lived there most natives pronounce it Mer-lin (or pretty similarly).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 03, 2013, 02:37:40 PM
Funny you say that..I grew up not too far from HSC and my grandfather said Mer-lin. But, he also had an all-around funny way to say things anyway.

I'll admit the whole Murvul/Maryville thing is a little petty, but when in Rome....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 03, 2013, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 03, 2013, 02:37:40 PM
Funny you say that..I grew up not too far from HSC and my grandfather said Mer-lin. But, he also had an all-around funny way to say things anyway.

I'll admit the whole Murvul/Maryville thing is a little petty, but when in Rome....

In all honesty, my fiance' makes fun of me when I say Merlin (Maryland) all the time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 03, 2013, 03:53:29 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 03, 2013, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 03, 2013, 02:37:40 PM
Funny you say that..I grew up not too far from HSC and my grandfather said Mer-lin. But, he also had an all-around funny way to say things anyway.

I'll admit the whole Murvul/Maryville thing is a little petty, but when in Rome....

In all honesty, my fiance' makes fun of me when I say Merlin (Maryland) all the time.
Reminds me of an old joke:

If a male is walking through the woods, and no female is around to hear him, and he says something, is he still wrong?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 03, 2013, 04:25:27 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 03, 2013, 03:53:29 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 03, 2013, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 03, 2013, 02:37:40 PM
Funny you say that..I grew up not too far from HSC and my grandfather said Mer-lin. But, he also had an all-around funny way to say things anyway.

I'll admit the whole Murvul/Maryville thing is a little petty, but when in Rome....

In all honesty, my fiance' makes fun of me when I say Merlin (Maryland) all the time.
Reminds me of an old joke:

If a male is walking through the woods, and no female is around to hear him, and he says something, is he still wrong?

How long has the guy been married?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 03, 2013, 05:30:16 PM
and in Va we also say No-th Calina!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 03, 2013, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 03, 2013, 05:30:16 PM
and in Va we also say No-th Calina!

Now you have me missing home a little. Growing up in Central VA, my family down here in TN always said we had a weird way of saying things, which I thought was a little hypocritical seeing how many East Tennesseans and North Georgians say 'yuns' instead of yall. But to each his own, I reckon.
Title: Admiral Papi
Post by: abnrgr on October 03, 2013, 06:32:46 PM
Anyone skulking about this board know if Papi is still in the mix?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 03, 2013, 10:15:01 PM
all through the south we know how to speak right (or is it correctly)... nah

keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 03, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
And Scots, if u make it to the Huntingdon/ Murrval game holler. Hawks 88 and i are at most of em
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on October 05, 2013, 09:01:43 AM
dg, good to see you still keeping it fun, like it should be.  I am looking forward to seeing your team today.  They keep improving and it should be a good test for Wesley.  I will let you know what I think when I get back from the game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: NCF on October 05, 2013, 09:17:36 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 03, 2013, 04:25:27 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 03, 2013, 03:53:29 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on October 03, 2013, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 03, 2013, 02:37:40 PM
Funny you say that..I grew up not too far from HSC and my grandfather said Mer-lin. But, he also had an all-around funny way to say things anyway.

I'll admit the whole Murvul/Maryville thing is a little petty, but when in Rome....

In all honesty, my fiance' makes fun of me when I say Merlin (Maryland) all the time.
Reminds me of an old joke:

If a male is walking through the woods, and no female is around to hear him, and he says something, is he still wrong?

How long has the guy been married?
Haha, but does that even matter :) ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 05, 2013, 01:24:24 PM
Huntingdon trails Wesley 10-7 at the half. Hawks turnover in the redzone at end of half, would have been good to get points there. Too many penalties and no ground game for the Hawks. Need to cut the penalties and find a way to move the ball better in the 2nd half.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 05, 2013, 03:13:39 PM
Final, 38-28 Wesley. Hawks had the lead going into the 4th but couldn't hold on. They're the 10th ranked team for a reason. They made plays when it counted and we had another red zone turnover. One of these days we will be able to finish those guys off.
Back to conference play. Take care of business and take them one at a time.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 05, 2013, 03:39:02 PM
CNU down 24-21. about a minute left. ugh!

Monarchs have a really good team!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 05, 2013, 03:43:34 PM
CNU is acting weird today....like they haven't practiced in weeks......just seem off.

starting qb gets hurt. a backup comes in who earlier in the year and throws 2-2 123 yds and 2 tds. this game he plays forever before passing then throws a int.

so now....what was that play near the end of the game.......4th and 42......CNU coaches I mean really??????

Congrats MU...2 in a row over CNU and wanted it more. CNU gave up on last series....coaches to players.....sigh.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 05, 2013, 04:18:18 PM
CNwho?  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 05, 2013, 04:46:44 PM
Maryville played a very sloppy game against Averett today for the most part. A lot of things to correct, but I'm happy with a home shut out. 48-0.

And, uh oh yeah...THATTA BABY METHODIST!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 05, 2013, 05:18:25 PM
two words: max reber


more words:
the guys on the odac board think i have no idea what an sec qb looks like (there isn't an sec qb who would have thrown 5 int's vs. the cnu defense i saw today), but i'll tell you this...i wouldn't trade max reber for any of them :) (ok, maybe mccarron, but only if he brings his girlfriend)

he actually had a bit of an off day today, missing open receivers on a few plays and locking in vaughn cross a bit too much, but when the game needed to be won, max made a play that most college qb's simply don't make...4th and 11, down 21-17 on the mu 28 with just under 3:00 to play...max is flushed out of the pocket - he probably could have run for the first down - and finds anthony radke about 40 yards down field and throws a perfect pass on the run...radke finishes it with about 25 yards of yac down to the cnu 2 yard line - ball game

max finished 26-41 for 352 with 2 td's and an int to go with a rushing td

cnu played an undisciplined game today...they gave mu some big first downs on penalties and that cost them, but i honestly thought the qb being injured played little in the outcome...morrast wasn't exactly on target, although his long ball is solid (having #5 and #88 running under that long ball helps) - cnu actually ran the ball better with #1 at qb, because they fed dukes the ball (that little dude is a player...doesn't run like he's 5'6")
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 05, 2013, 05:26:20 PM
I wouldn't care if MU's coaching staff sold their souls. ;D The loss puts MC in somewhat of a "control your own destiny" situation. Still have to play at CNU and Huntingdon in the second half of the season.

At the game today, tons of offensive penalties, early dropped balls, yada yada. But still, a good day. 411 yds on the ground, 136 in the air and AU was limited to only 80-something yds.

And, oh h*ll yes. Max Reber is Legit. (Notice the capital L)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2013, 02:14:07 PM
Quote from: narch on October 05, 2013, 04:18:18 PM
CNwho?  :)

+1. NArch....I think I heard you tap dancing and singing all the way up here!!! Enjoy the weekend!!!! Congrats!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 06, 2013, 02:15:18 PM
Quote from: narch on October 05, 2013, 05:18:25 PM
cnu actually ran the ball better with #1 at qb, because they fed dukes the ball (that little dude is a player...doesn't run like he's 5'6")

cuz he is 5'5" at best.....as coach said..."in heels"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 07, 2013, 09:17:21 AM
Congratulations to Methodist ... super win for the Monarchs.  I saw Max Reber play on September 14 ... he's a fine QB. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 07, 2013, 02:45:43 PM
the only true candidate for usasac play of the week begins at around the :45 second mark - vote early and often folks :)

http://usasouth.net/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/20131007rdn3v1

seeing the end-zone view, i realize that max did not have the option to run for a first down...from my vantage on the home side of the stadium, i thought he could have easily run for the first down, but the end-zone angle shows that the de may have caught him and the lb/db sitting in the zone probably would have stopped him short...makes the play even more impressive, 'cause that throw was the only option he had
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 07, 2013, 04:03:35 PM
Anybody know where this Craig guy at LaGrange came from? Listed on the roster as a Jr..did he transfer in or just decided 2013 would be a great time leave the dorms to air it out in West GA?

Narch, that was one heck of a play. Reber is no joke.

Another side note: a local tv station that reported the game last weekend noted that the Averett shutout was the 171st in program history. Surprising to hear that, seeing how the program only has around 430-ish wins. That's about 40% of the wins. I might have to look at media guide and see.  Only thing for certain is, it's the second this year and hopefully not the last.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 07, 2013, 08:20:32 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 07, 2013, 04:03:35 PM
Anybody know where this Craig guy at LaGrange came from? Listed on the roster as a Jr..did he transfer in or just decided 2013 would be a great time leave the dorms to air it out in West GA?
valdosta state transfer per the roster
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 07, 2013, 08:24:11 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 07, 2013, 04:03:35 PM
Narch, that was one heck of a play. Reber is no joke.
some ballot stuffing going on....that play is a distant third behind Lagrange and Huntington plays...neither of which was a game winner vs. a ranked opponent
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2013, 09:09:05 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 07, 2013, 04:03:35 PM
Anybody know where this Craig guy at LaGrange came from? Listed on the roster as a Jr..did he transfer in or just decided 2013 would be a great time leave the dorms to air it out in West GA?

Valdosta is not the only place he was at. It was in Kickoff:
http://www.d3football.com/secure/2013/USAC/LaGrange/index
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 07, 2013, 09:33:17 PM
A few yrs back, LaGrange had a senior (5th yr i think) from Jax State (in Bama, not FLo-rida) JSU is a pretty good D1AA team. He had some stats from Jax, but on played sparingly.
He was pretty good against Huntingdon, but the Hawks could score quicker than the Panthers that day.

As i recall LaGrange and the NAIA school near them (Point University) both have a good number of transfers from D2, NAIA, ans D!AA..... sorry... i mean D1FCS :)

Heading the other way, Huntingdon had a RB that told folk at Huntingdon he was only going to play 2 yrs then go to Ga Southern (a perty good D1FCS program). He did, took a red shirt yr GSU, then played some at RB, but was a regular on Special teams for his final 2 yrs.
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 07, 2013, 11:12:08 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 07, 2013, 09:09:05 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 07, 2013, 04:03:35 PM
Anybody know where this Craig guy at LaGrange came from? Listed on the roster as a Jr..did he transfer in or just decided 2013 would be a great time leave the dorms to air it out in West GA?

Valdosta is not the only place he was at. It was in Kickoff:
http://www.d3football.com/secure/2013/USAC/LaGrange/index

Must have read past it. An FCS school too? Nice. Can I say it?  A USAC Nash Nance? Whoops. Said it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 09, 2013, 02:15:18 PM
Well, CNU has done it again....they beat two pretty good teams to start the season, which was a pleasant surprise, then they lose to a team they should have beaten.  I'm sorry, 85, but Methodist is not "a really good team"....you can't be humiliated on your home turf by E&H and be really good.  If you ask me, Methodist is a mediocre team w/a puncher's chance of beating a better team, given their quarterback.

Huntingdon will likely win all of their conference games, so hopefully CNU will be considered for a Pool B slot, IF they can win the rest of their games.  CNU faithful should be big fans of Salisbury and H-SC the rest of the way....if they could win their respective conferences, CNU would look a little better for Pool B consideration.

First things first, though....win out, Captains!

Or is it Pool C?  Anyway, you guys know what I mean....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 09, 2013, 02:20:07 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on October 09, 2013, 02:15:18 PM
Well, CNU has done it again....they beat two pretty good teams to start the season, which was a pleasant surprise, then they lose to a team they should have beaten.  I'm sorry, 85, but Methodist is not a "really good team"....you can't be humiliated on your home turf by E&H and be really good.  If you ask me, Methodist is a mediocre team w/a puncher's chance of beating a better team, given their quarterback.

Huntingdon will likely win all of their conference games, so hopefully CNU will be considered for a Pool B slot, IF they can win the rest of their games.  CNU faithful should be big fans of Salisbury and H-SC the rest of the way....if they could win their respective conferences, CNU would look a little better for Pool B consideration.

First things first, though....win out, Captains!

CNU would not be considered for a Pool B, they would have to go into Pool C. Given there are only 5 Pool C bids this year, that is not a spot you want to be in. While CNU fans should certainly be rooting for Salisbury and H-SC, they would be better off hoping Huntingdon and the rest of the USASC find a couple losses.

A Pool C out of the USASC with a 1 loss team will be marginal, though CNU might have the resume if HSC and Salisbury keep winning. I would think a 1 loss team from the WIAC, MIAC, NWC would go off the table first. Those last two spots could be very competitive...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 09, 2013, 03:00:45 PM
There are only 5 Pool C bids this year?!?!  That's not good....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 09, 2013, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on October 09, 2013, 03:00:45 PM
There are only 5 Pool C bids this year?!?!  That's not good....

Yep. Last year there was only 1 Pool B. This year the math indicates 3 Pool B bids. Since they can't come from the A bids, they have to come from the B bids. While Pool B is abnormally large thanks to the MASCAC and SAA, as both those conferences get A bids in the next couple years, the "extras" will shift from B to A, meaning that C is more or less permanently reduced. If you want to make the playoffs, win your conference...

*** Pat if you peruse this post, third time IS the charm for getting this right. Mom always said I learned slow ***
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2013, 03:28:49 PM
swish3...as much as it pains me to say, your analysis of mu as a mediocre team with a fighting chance is spot on...having watched every play of the mu/cnu game in person, though, i can tell you the better team won on saturday - perhaps cnu just didn't come to play, but they simply weren't as good as mu in any phase other than running the ball and the return game

the cnu defense was vanilla...they rushed 4 and dropped 7 into coverage, and the lack of a consistent pass rush gave reber time to pick them apart - honestly, if max had his normal game, he may have thrown for 400+...mu receivers dropped at least 4 balls, he locked in on his primary receiver and tried to force balls in instead of going through his progressions...the pick 6 he threw was a particularly bad read, and he missed open receivers on a couple of throws - the last play he made atoned him of the earlier mistakes, though :)

cnu's offense is so one-dimensional, that a team that is probably below average defensively (mu) actually looked ok - the captain qb play is particularly bad - morrast has a live arm, but his accuracy leaves a lot to be desired...i actually was disappointed to see him leave the game, because i thought mu had a better shot of winning with him in - the back up threw 2 picks, but one was the last offensive play of the game for cnu on 4th and 40+ - the cnu coaching staff does not seem to have much confidence in his ability to run their offense, given the play calling

cnu also had some huge penalties in bad situations and i thought the coaching staff made some questionable decisions...i wouldn't have punted 4th and 1 from the cnu 40 something late in the game...that punt was shanked and gave the monarchs a chance to win it - a short pick-up (with a mobile qb and a very good rb) could have iced it for the captains

i'm not sure my assessment of cnu would be that of a playoff team...they may well finish with a record that gets them consideration (i could see the mu loss being the only blemish on the cnu record, especially since they don't play huntingdon), but i also wouldn't be shocked if maryville and lagrange beat them

i hope that mu will do its part to make that loss look better, though...we would both like it if the monarchs didn't lose again this season :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 09, 2013, 03:58:22 PM
Quote from: narch on October 09, 2013, 03:28:49 PM
swish3...as much as it pains me to say, your analysis of mu as a mediocre team with a fighting chance is spot on...having watched every play of the mu/cnu game in person, though, i can tell you the better team won on saturday - perhaps cnu just didn't come to play, but they simply weren't as good as mu in any phase other than running the ball and the return game

the cnu defense was vanilla...they rushed 4 and dropped 7 into coverage, and the lack of a consistent pass rush gave reber time to pick them apart - honestly, if max had his normal game, he may have thrown for 400+...mu receivers dropped at least 4 balls, he locked in on his primary receiver and tried to force balls in instead of going through his progressions...the pick 6 he threw was a particularly bad read, and he missed open receivers on a couple of throws - the last play he made atoned him of the earlier mistakes, though :)

cnu's offense is so one-dimensional, that a team that is probably below average defensively (mu) actually looked ok - the captain qb play is particularly bad - morrast has a live arm, but his accuracy leaves a lot to be desired...i actually was disappointed to see him leave the game, because i thought mu had a better shot of winning with him in - the back up threw 2 picks, but one was the last offensive play of the game for cnu on 4th and 40+ - the cnu coaching staff does not seem to have much confidence in his ability to run their offense, given the play calling

cnu also had some huge penalties in bad situations and i thought the coaching staff made some questionable decisions...i wouldn't have punted 4th and 1 from the cnu 40 something late in the game...that punt was shanked and gave the monarchs a chance to win it - a short pick-up (with a mobile qb and a very good rb) could have iced it for the captains

i'm not sure my assessment of cnu would be that of a playoff team...they may well finish with a record that gets them consideration (i could see the mu loss being the only blemish on the cnu record, especially since they don't play huntingdon), but i also wouldn't be shocked if maryville and lagrange beat them

i hope that mu will do its part to make that loss look better, though...we would both like it if the monarchs didn't lose again this season :)

I had a chance to look at a couple of CNU games here and there and one game fully. I thought they actually did well only rushing four and playing good pass covergage in the back end. Maybe Methodist is actually better, I am sure as the season continues we will get a better picture on both teams. Now as far a the offense is concerned, I somewhat agree with your assessment, at times they can be very one dimensional, but the way the defense was playing as of late, it didn't matter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 09, 2013, 04:16:01 PM
I knew it was just a matter of time until you responded, narch....given this loss, I'm not sure what to make of CNU.  By your own admission, MU played quite a bit better than CNU, yet they were barely able to squeak out a last minute victory.  However, we did agree that MU is a .500 team, or slightly above, so what does that say about CNU?  I don't know....CNU's defense didn't play as well as they had been, and their offensive issues really bit 'em this time, to which I'm not surprised.  I've made comments throughout the years about CNU needing a short, reliable passing game to keep opposing defenses honest.

I'm hoping CNU will learn from this loss and finish the season strong....hopefully, MU will continue to win and make this blemish look a little better than it does right now.  There's a lot of football left to be played, so we'll have to see what happens.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 09, 2013, 09:45:38 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on October 09, 2013, 04:16:01 PMso what does that say about CNU?
personally, i hope that by the end of the season, we're saying cnu was a pretty good team and mu was a little better :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 09, 2013, 09:51:48 PM
Quote from: narch on October 09, 2013, 09:45:38 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on October 09, 2013, 04:16:01 PMso what does that say about CNU?
personally, i hope that by the end of the season, we're saying cnu was a pretty good team and mu was a little better :)

I agree wholeheartedly, narch.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 09, 2013, 10:17:17 PM
Not likely, narch, but keep your fingers crossed.... ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 11, 2013, 07:19:36 PM
if the monarchs are going to be for real this season, they need to take care of business this weekend...don't fall into the "we just beat a top 25 team, averett can't beat us" trap, boys...ask guilford if averett is dangerous

go get 'em, monarchs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 11, 2013, 07:47:38 PM
Hawks
you heading up to the Greensboro game ?
i hope The Hawks can rebound from the Wesley loss and win this weekend.
Also.... it pains me to root for Murrvul, but i cant bring myself to thank good thoughts about Lagrange... i tried..but cant do it
go ...uh...sco... uh...scots.... ok i did say that
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 11, 2013, 08:03:46 PM
It'd be nice if HC loses a few conf games, DG, to make MC's road to the playoffs easier, but I wouldn't be mad if both win out and have it all come down to the game in Montgomery. Makes for a good story!

Hawk Em? Maybe? Ok..just a little.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 11, 2013, 08:31:30 PM
It is gonna be a good game either way
hope yall beat LaGrange tomorrow
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 11, 2013, 08:32:59 PM
DGP,
Arrived in G'boro this afternoon. I feel pretty good that we will do okay tomorrow.
I'm like you that I have trouble pulling for LaGrange in anything. I have less trouble pulling for Murvul since Rader went up there. I'm like Scots13 in that I wouldn't mind that game at the end being for all the marbles. There's a lot of football to be played between now and then though.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 11, 2013, 09:24:57 PM
Hawks
Yall have fun, and safe safe travels my friend
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 12, 2013, 11:55:19 AM
Several key guys not dressed for the Hawks, Bennet, Robinson, Belsterling, Green, Granger. Gonna need others to step up today.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 12, 2013, 03:42:16 PM
D looking a bit off, and a blocked punt ...ouch
still the haks OL hammering big holes

48-32, Huntingdon, with <2 min left
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 12, 2013, 03:48:58 PM
Greensboro within 8 with <2min in game

ouch

Greensboro tried onside, and Huntingdon fielded it and ran it to 15 or so

Hawks held on to an ugly ugly win

Go Hawks and keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 12, 2013, 03:51:45 PM
Tale of 2 halves... MC wins 47-35. Dominated second half. Kicking game struggling.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 12, 2013, 09:29:26 PM
the monarchs found a running game today...in a big way - 412 yards on the ground and 3 players with 100+ - reber was efficient going 12-17 for 145 and 2 tds while running for 107 - mu jumped out to a 20 - 3 first qtr lead, but had to hold on for the win vs. a game au team

mu gets a week off to prepare for the Lagrange passing attack...and do they ever have some work to do - 4-2 at this stage is nice
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 13, 2013, 12:28:12 AM
Just got in. Long drive. About all you can say about today is it was a win. We looked really good for most of the first half then I'm not sure what happened but we kind of went into cruise control and it ended up a lot closer than it should have. If the defense can't get it together we will have to depend on just out-scoring people from here on out. We do have several freshman receivers that are looking good that are going to cause some people some problems if we can keep them around for a few years.
Need to get some people healthy and get ready for a big one at LaGrange next week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 13, 2013, 12:46:35 AM
Just noticed this. 21 points given up in the 4th quarter last week, 21 points given up in the 4th quarter this week. Gotta stop that.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2013, 12:30:42 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 13, 2013, 12:46:35 AM
Just noticed this. 21 points given up in the 4th quarter last week, 21 points given up in the 4th quarter this week. Gotta stop that.

Go Hawks!
How many second teamers were getting minutes in those games?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 13, 2013, 02:10:53 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 13, 2013, 12:30:42 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 13, 2013, 12:46:35 AM
Just noticed this. 21 points given up in the 4th quarter last week, 21 points given up in the 4th quarter this week. Gotta stop that.

Go Hawks!
How many second teamers were getting minutes in those games?
Not really any who don't already play anyway. Except for two or three guys, we normally play two deep at most defensive positions, sometimes 3 deep on the d-line so it was basically still the normal rotations.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 13, 2013, 02:22:00 PM
For HC's sake for next week, the defense needs to be ready to play. LaGrange might have one the best offenses I've seen in a while. It's either a home run or a strike out for them. Scary thing is/was/will continue to be is their play makers' ability to turn a 10 yard crossing pattern into 80 quick ones and 6 on the board in a matter of seconds.
I think HC will come out with a win because they'll have more big plays, but it's going to be a fight for a good part of the game. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 13, 2013, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 13, 2013, 02:22:00 PM
For HC's sake for next week, the defense needs to be ready to play. LaGrange might have one the best offenses I've seen in a while. It's either a home run or a strike out for them. Scary thing is/was/will continue to be is their play makers' ability to turn a 10 yard crossing pattern into 80 quick ones and 6 on the board in a matter of seconds.
I think HC will come out with a win because they'll have more big plays, but it's going to be a fight for a good part of the game.
Track meet. It's liable to be 77-70 whoever has the ball last wins.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 13, 2013, 02:56:55 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 13, 2013, 02:41:25 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 13, 2013, 02:22:00 PM
For HC's sake for next week, the defense needs to be ready to play. LaGrange might have one the best offenses I've seen in a while. It's either a home run or a strike out for them. Scary thing is/was/will continue to be is their play makers' ability to turn a 10 yard crossing pattern into 80 quick ones and 6 on the board in a matter of seconds.
I think HC will come out with a win because they'll have more big plays, but it's going to be a fight for a good part of the game.
Track meet. It's liable to be 77-70 whoever has the ball last wins.  :)

Yeah, no kidding. I'm guessing over 1300 yards of total offense, if not more.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PA_wesleyfan on October 13, 2013, 03:54:03 PM
HAWKS88

It looks as if the Huntingdon D shut down with that big lead late. The

Maryville game will be big with the Hawks not playing CNUY

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 14, 2013, 06:59:48 PM
I don't think there's much separating Maryville, CNU, and Huntingdon at this point in the season. If MC can get by CNU this weekend, look for an 8-1/7-1 November showdown in Montgomery.  Might even be an Instant Classic candidate for ESPN.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 15, 2013, 10:42:32 AM
Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on October 13, 2013, 03:54:03 PM
HAWKS88

It looks as if the Huntingdon D shut down with that big lead late. The

Maryville game will be big with the Hawks not playing CNUY
The thing is, it wasn't that big of a lead. From mid-third quarter on, the lead was never more than two scores.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 19, 2013, 05:09:48 PM
Not to "besmirch" anybody but, just walked up to the table with the "Visitor Pass" sign and the guy says, "It's that table over there. "  ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 19, 2013, 07:43:17 PM
Maryville (TN.) looking good right now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 19, 2013, 09:23:08 PM
Great game between LaGrange and Huntingdon.  LaGrange wins 44-40 with a last minute drive.

That Mumme style offense is fun to watch and fun to play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 19, 2013, 09:25:24 PM
Doc... i didnt think it was fun to watch at alll...............................

id rather get beat by anybody than LaGrange

ouch

oh well
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 19, 2013, 09:32:00 PM
Having watched a Mumme style offense for four years at McMurry, I am not discounting LaGrange's chances to challenge for the crown.  The Panthers are becoming more familiar with the offense and execute it better each week.

I understand your pain, Doc Pugh.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 19, 2013, 09:34:28 PM
DRIVER'S SEAT!!!!!!!!! CNwho? 30-17 MARYVILLE COLLEGE. God it feels good to be a Fighting Scot!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 19, 2013, 09:35:19 PM
hmm...things are getting interesting...scots are in the drivers seat, for sure...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 19, 2013, 10:07:45 PM
LaGrange and Murrvul both win............................ i think i am gonna throw up  ???

congrats.... that hurt to say :P
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 19, 2013, 11:19:12 PM
Familiar story. Played pretty well for most of three quarters then the bottom fell out again. Have to pull back together and start finishing games again. We can still win this thing.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 19, 2013, 11:32:47 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 19, 2013, 11:19:12 PM
Familiar story. Played pretty well for most of three quarters then the bottom fell out again. Have to pull back together and start finishing games again. We can still win this thing.

Go Hawks!

Somehow if Huntingdon actually wins out and gets into the playoffs, I think its a trip to Belton and a meeting with the Cru, but looking at Maryville (TN.), they looked impressive, especially the first half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 20, 2013, 12:24:37 AM
And now the loss to E&H REALLY irritates me..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on October 20, 2013, 08:16:51 AM
Legit Question:  Let's assume that LaGrange wins out and Huntingdon beats Maryville and the final conference standings are as follows:

LaGrange 7-1
Huntingdon 6-1
Maryville 6-1

MC beat LC, LC beat HC, and HC beats MC...How would the conference champion be decided because LC plays 8 conference games and everyone else plays 7?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on October 20, 2013, 09:27:29 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on October 20, 2013, 08:16:51 AM
Legit Question:  Let's assume that LaGrange wins out and Huntingdon beats Maryville and the final conference standings are as follows:

LaGrange 7-1
Huntingdon 6-1
Maryville 6-1

MC beat LC, LC beat HC, and HC beats MC...How would the conference champion be decided because LC plays 8 conference games and everyone else plays 7?

great question, was wondering the same thing.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on October 20, 2013, 10:48:41 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 19, 2013, 09:32:00 PM
Having watched a Mumme style offense for four years at McMurry, I am not discounting LaGrange's chances to challenge for the crown.  The Panthers are becoming more familiar with the offense and execute it better each week.

I understand your pain, Doc Pugh.

It will all depend on LC's defense.  Last night they made some big plays, question becomes can they do it week in and week out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2013, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on October 20, 2013, 08:16:51 AM
Legit Question:  Let's assume that LaGrange wins out and Huntingdon beats Maryville and the final conference standings are as follows:

LaGrange 7-1
Huntingdon 6-1
Maryville 6-1

MC beat LC, LC beat HC, and HC beats MC...How would the conference champion be decided because LC plays 8 conference games and everyone else plays 7?

Interesting indeed. How does the regional rankings fit into this?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 20, 2013, 05:19:20 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 20, 2013, 05:16:41 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on October 20, 2013, 08:16:51 AM
Legit Question:  Let's assume that LaGrange wins out and Huntingdon beats Maryville and the final conference standings are as follows:

LaGrange 7-1
Huntingdon 6-1
Maryville 6-1

MC beat LC, LC beat HC, and HC beats MC...How would the conference champion be decided because LC plays 8 conference games and everyone else plays 7?

Interesting indeed. How does the regional rankings fit into this?
They would get my vote.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2013, 05:20:02 PM
last night was painful to watch. when you really know your team you can tell almost from the first few minutes what's going to happen. I had an uneasy feeling even before the game.....once it started my gut told me Maryville was the better team. Congrats tot he scots.....will be fun to see how the rest of the season plays out for the AQ. the next scary game for me is LaGrange......I have a bad feeling.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 20, 2013, 09:11:43 PM
85,
I wish the CNU students weren't on fall break last night, or otherwise the atmosphere would have been an A+ instead of an A.  Great game by both teams, really.  When MC was up 24-10 at half, I knew the Capt's would come out of the locker room ready to get back in the game, which they immediately did.  Dukes is one hell of a back.
One thing that I want to say publicly is how proud I am of Wes Bloeme and his kicking last night. We've had a shoddy special teams year again, but he was money last night. Good job.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 21, 2013, 08:23:50 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on October 20, 2013, 08:16:51 AM
Legit Question:  Let's assume that LaGrange wins out and Huntingdon beats Maryville and the final conference standings are as follows:

LaGrange 7-1
Huntingdon 6-1
Maryville 6-1

MC beat LC, LC beat HC, and HC beats MC...How would the conference champion be decided because LC plays 8 conference games and everyone else plays 7?
i think (think being the operative word) that lc would get the aq because of the higher winning %...could be wrong though

i knew that not all teams played each other, but i didn't realize that lagrange played an extra conference game...interesting...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 21, 2013, 08:50:23 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 20, 2013, 09:11:43 PM
85,
I wish the CNU students weren't on fall break last night, or otherwise the atmosphere would have been an A+ instead of an A.  Great game by both teams, really.  When MC was up 24-10 at half, I knew the Capt's would come out of the locker room ready to get back in the game, which they immediately did.  Dukes is one hell of a back.
One thing that I want to say publicly is how proud I am of Wes Bloeme and his kicking last night. We've had a shoddy special teams year again, but he was money last night. Good job.

I agree about the kicker and the students. If it wasn't fall break, you could have added 2,000 to to the attendance. The weather kept people away a little, too. Thanks for the kind words. I wish I had paid attention and realized you would be there. We could have had a beer.

When Bloeme kicked the first PAT, it was so ugly I thought "ok, cool. They don't have a kicking game". I was wrong. He was money. You guys are in the driver's seat right now.....make it happen!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 21, 2013, 09:21:46 AM
Quote from: narch on October 21, 2013, 08:23:50 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on October 20, 2013, 08:16:51 AM
Legit Question:  Let's assume that LaGrange wins out and Huntingdon beats Maryville and the final conference standings are as follows:

LaGrange 7-1
Huntingdon 6-1
Maryville 6-1

MC beat LC, LC beat HC, and HC beats MC...How would the conference champion be decided because LC plays 8 conference games and everyone else plays 7?
i think (think being the operative word) that lc would get the aq because of the higher winning %...could be wrong though

i knew that not all teams played each other, but i didn't realize that lagrange played an extra conference game...interesting...
I thought about the "extra game" issue also ... didn't realize one team had 8 conference games, but mathematically it makes sense.  The number of teams times the number of games played has to be an even number and 9 X 7 = 63, so it was necessary for one to play 8.  I paired them up and MC doesn't play NCW, GC doesn't play AU, HC doesn't play CNU and MU doesn't play FC, so ... LC was the odd man out and had to play all the other USASAC teams.  It would, of course, be a lot simpler if there was round-robin play and every team played every other team (9 X 8 = 72), but I'm sure there were some nonconference schedules already in place and, with CNU leaving, it'll eventually be a moot point.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 21, 2013, 10:24:14 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 21, 2013, 09:21:46 AM
Quote from: narch on October 21, 2013, 08:23:50 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on October 20, 2013, 08:16:51 AM
Legit Question:  Let's assume that LaGrange wins out and Huntingdon beats Maryville and the final conference standings are as follows:

LaGrange 7-1
Huntingdon 6-1
Maryville 6-1

MC beat LC, LC beat HC, and HC beats MC...How would the conference champion be decided because LC plays 8 conference games and everyone else plays 7?
i think (think being the operative word) that lc would get the aq because of the higher winning %...could be wrong though

i knew that not all teams played each other, but i didn't realize that lagrange played an extra conference game...interesting...
I thought about the "extra game" issue also ... didn't realize one team had 8 conference games, but mathematically it makes sense.  The number of teams times the number of games played has to be an even number and 9 X 7 = 63, so it was necessary for one to play 8.  I paired them up and MC doesn't play NCW, GC doesn't play AU, HC doesn't play CNU and MU doesn't play FC, so ... LC was the odd man out and had to play all the other USASAC teams.  It would, of course, be a lot simpler if there was round-robin play and every team played every other team (9 X 8 = 72), but I'm sure there were some nonconference schedules already in place and, with CNU leaving, it'll eventually be a moot point.
I looked all over the conference website and couldn't find anything about tie breakers. I thought I remembered someone saying something about regional rankings being used but I'm not sure what would happen if none of the teams in the the tie are regionally ranked. It may have only meant to be applied in a tie between two teams who didn't play each other. It would be nice if it was published on the conference website somewhere. More fun to speculate when you actually know the parameters. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 21, 2013, 11:14:07 AM
USASC used to have a coin flip written into the rules. Not sure if that is still true (circa 2007 I believe). Also not sure how it would work in a 3 way tie. And yes, it would be nice if they put this stuff on the conference website, even if it is rarely needed. I know the ODAC's, as of a couple years ago when RMC got killed by Mount, gave the AQ to the team who had been longest out of the playoffs. Not sure if that is still the way it is done either.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 21, 2013, 11:35:26 AM
Quote from: jknezek on October 21, 2013, 11:14:07 AM
USASC used to have a coin flip written into the rules. Not sure if that is still true (circa 2007 I believe). Also not sure how it would work in a 3 way tie. And yes, it would be nice if they put this stuff on the conference website, even if it is rarely needed. I know the ODAC's, as of a couple years ago when RMC got killed by Mount, gave the AQ to the team who had been longest out of the playoffs. Not sure if that is still the way it is done either.
Still a lot of football to be played, but that rule would favor Guilford if it came into play.  The Quakers have never been to the NCAA football playoffs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 21, 2013, 02:27:52 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 21, 2013, 10:24:14 AM
I looked all over the conference website and couldn't find anything about tie breakers.
but there wouldn't be a tie to be broken in the scenario given earlier...7-1 is not the same as 6-1
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 21, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 21, 2013, 08:50:23 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 20, 2013, 09:11:43 PM
85,
I wish the CNU students weren't on fall break last night, or otherwise the atmosphere would have been an A+ instead of an A.  Great game by both teams, really.  When MC was up 24-10 at half, I knew the Capt's would come out of the locker room ready to get back in the game, which they immediately did.  Dukes is one hell of a back.
One thing that I want to say publicly is how proud I am of Wes Bloeme and his kicking last night. We've had a shoddy special teams year again, but he was money last night. Good job.

I agree about the kicker and the students. If it wasn't fall break, you could have added 2,000 to to the attendance. The weather kept people away a little, too. Thanks for the kind words. I wish I had paid attention and realized you would be there. We could have had a beer.

When Bloeme kicked the first PAT, it was so ugly I thought "ok, cool. They don't have a kicking game". I was wrong. He was money. You guys are in the driver's seat right now.....make it happen!

After each TD I was updating a buddy by text, so I didn't see the PATs. Really didn't want to see them after how they've been kicking so far. But I think the first PAT was the one that it looked like he kicked it out of the holder's hands. Thank God he was on Saturday night.

Another thing that's cool about the atmosphere at CNU and the Hampton Roads area in general is the military presence. I thought having a 3 star General give new GIs the oath at half time was something special. Even walked right by him going into the stadium.

I didn't even think to let you know I was heading to the game. I had a busy week of JV and varsity football games and seeing buddies I haven't seen since New Year's. Would have been nice to meet another poster and have a beer. Maybe next time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 21, 2013, 08:17:43 PM
Just checked out the NCAA's statistical website and the USA South has some good things going on this season so far...

LaGrange's Craig is leading DIII with over 2300 passing yards,
Huntingdon leads the country in total offense with 567.3 yards per game,
Maryville is tied for total first downs and tied at the top of the nation in few sacks allowed with only 1, but solely in first in sack yards allowed at 4 (.14 per game). Also number 11 is rushing yards per game at 292.1.

All three teams in the top 50 in many more categories. CNU is thrown in the mix in a few as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 22, 2013, 05:33:14 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 21, 2013, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 21, 2013, 08:50:23 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 20, 2013, 09:11:43 PM
85,
I wish the CNU students weren't on fall break last night, or otherwise the atmosphere would have been an A+ instead of an A.  Great game by both teams, really.  When MC was up 24-10 at half, I knew the Capt's would come out of the locker room ready to get back in the game, which they immediately did.  Dukes is one hell of a back.
One thing that I want to say publicly is how proud I am of Wes Bloeme and his kicking last night. We've had a shoddy special teams year again, but he was money last night. Good job.

I agree about the kicker and the students. If it wasn't fall break, you could have added 2,000 to to the attendance. The weather kept people away a little, too. Thanks for the kind words. I wish I had paid attention and realized you would be there. We could have had a beer.

When Bloeme kicked the first PAT, it was so ugly I thought "ok, cool. They don't have a kicking game". I was wrong. He was money. You guys are in the driver's seat right now.....make it happen!

After each TD I was updating a buddy by text, so I didn't see the PATs. Really didn't want to see them after how they've been kicking so far. But I think the first PAT was the one that it looked like he kicked it out of the holder's hands. Thank God he was on Saturday night.

Another thing that's cool about the atmosphere at CNU and the Hampton Roads area in general is the military presence. I thought having a 3 star General give new GIs the oath at half time was something special. Even walked right by him going into the stadium.

I didn't even think to let you know I was heading to the game. I had a busy week of JV and varsity football games and seeing buddies I haven't seen since New Year's. Would have been nice to meet another poster and have a beer. Maybe next time.

I walked by him entering the stadium as well. So we must have been close. I was wondering how the ROTC cadets would react when he turned the corner. I've lived on or near USAF bases all my life...was born on one. I got used to it after awhile. I spent much of my youth involved in sports at Langley AFB...used to be TAC HQ and is now ACC HQ....can't spit on base without hitting a General.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 22, 2013, 05:51:16 PM
interesting stuff....I'm sitting here wondering how many different D3 teams I have seen play....and where.... I'd love to hear some other stories as well...

I have seen 22 different teams play (about 10% of D3 - not too bad).....it might be 23 - I went to a Bridgewater game one weekend but I don't remember who they played or when I went....I think it was 2007....not sure.

I have been to the Stagg Bowl once.

I have been to 6 CNU road games.....we went 1-5 in those games so maybe I should stay home (I'm a huge Minnesota Vikings fan - I've been to 4 Vikings games - yup 0-4). Other than Salem and the one Bridgewater game, I went to games where CNU played....Salisbury, Wesley, Averett, Mary Hardin Baylor, Hampden-Sydney, and Shenandoah. I may have been to 2 Shendandoah games. So if I did we are either 2-5 or 1-6.....age is a terrible thing!

I'd love to see who has been to the most games and where they went.


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 22, 2013, 06:19:46 PM
I'll throw my list on here, but I wouldn't count most of the places on here since I was on the team.
But I went to HSC home games in high school and actually worked the chains and balls one year.
Other than HSC vs ODAC teams I saw Gettysburg, Hopkins, Montclair State (playoff game one year I was at MC), King's, and probably a few others I can't recall.
I've been to an HSC/RMC at Macon too.
Other places I've been (again, most while on the team at Maryville):
Ferrum, Averett, Methodist, NCWC, CNU, Greensboro, LaGrange, Huntingdon, Centre, Shenandoah, E&H, and Tennessee Tech (FCS, wasn't pretty but we did score), and BSC for scrimmages.
That makes my total stadiums around 17 or so, and, what, 25 or 26 teams I've seen play. Who knows.

I've been to the last 2 Stagg Bowls. Make that 28-29 different teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 22, 2013, 07:01:33 PM
My wife and I have been to Huntingdon road games at LaGrange, Birmingham-Southern, Millsaps, Mississippi College, Louisiana College, Trinity, Rhodes, Sewanee, Maryville, Greensboro, Hampden-Sydney, Wesley, Ithaca, Westminster(Mo), and Eureka.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 22, 2013, 08:10:08 PM
Let's see, I've seen college (all divisions) games at Guilford, Greensboro, Bridgewater, E&H, W&L, Ferrum, Averett, Methodist, Salisbury, Davidson, Mars Hill, Lenoir-Rhyne, Brevard, Elon, Catawba, Wingate, VMI, Appalachian State, Western Carolina, Wake Forest, Duke, NC State, UNC-CH, Clemson, South Carolina, Ohio State and Tennessee.  As opponents, I've seen Illinois, Vanderbilt, Liberty, James Madison, Towson State, Chowan, Furman, Long Beach State, CW Post, Newberry, Presbyterian, Carson-Newman, NNA, Randolph-Macon, Hampden-Sydney, Catholic, Shenandoah, Southern Virginia, Wofford, Kentucky, Mississippi State, Georgia, East Carolina, UT-Chattanooga, Pittsburgh and probably many others I simply can't remember!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 22, 2013, 08:20:45 PM
hay

still smarting from the LaGrange loss.... but been to Rhodes, Milsaps, LaGrange  a bunch (and we won those), Sewanee, BSC, Westminister (in Mo), La College, Murval ( a couple times), Centre, a pile of Huntingdon Home games........too many NAIA games that the Hawks played against.

not all of the above were watching Huntingdon games (been on the mtn several tines to watch sewanee and the Coast Guard Academy)

been to 4 Stagg Bowls

i love small college football ( i played D2 and the Boy played & coached at Huntingdon)... so... before the boy (now 24) went to Huntingdon, i hauled him ( or his older sisters...or his mom) to see most of the D1aa, D2, and NAIA teams in jawja and bama.

I am 60 now, and the luster for many things have faded............but not for football where there aint a lot of money, most the kids that are on the field really badly love it, and the people watching got a kid in the game..or are super alums..

sorry ;)
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 22, 2013, 08:25:22 PM
also

this is page 666.....................got me freaked out
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 22, 2013, 08:53:53 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 22, 2013, 08:25:22 PM
also

this is page 666.....................got me freaked out

I noticed that yesterday. It gave me bad mojo.
Let's hope a post or two and we're on the next page.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 22, 2013, 10:06:52 PM
Thanks for coming to all those Stagg Bowls too!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on October 22, 2013, 10:31:30 PM
Maybe this one will do it!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 22, 2013, 10:57:49 PM
still on page 666 with that one.
hopefully this one is the golden ticket.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 23, 2013, 07:22:21 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 22, 2013, 08:10:08 PM
Let's see, I've seen college (all divisions) games at Guilford, Greensboro, Bridgewater, E&H, W&L, Ferrum, Averett, Methodist, Salisbury, Davidson, Mars Hill, Lenoir-Rhyne, Brevard, Elon, Catawba, Wingate, VMI, Appalachian State, Western Carolina, Wake Forest, Duke, NC State, UNC-CH, Clemson, South Carolina, Ohio State and Tennessee.  As opponents, I've seen Illinois, Vanderbilt, Liberty, James Madison, Towson State, Chowan, Furman, Long Beach State, CW Post, Newberry, Presbyterian, Carson-Newman, NNA, Randolph-Macon, Hampden-Sydney, Catholic, Shenandoah, Southern Virginia, Wofford, Kentucky, Mississippi State, Georgia, East Carolina, UT-Chattanooga, Pittsburgh and probably many others I simply can't remember!
Oh yeah, forgot about a Stagg Bowl between UWW and Mt. Union.  Mt. Union had Pierre Garcon and won.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 23, 2013, 10:49:10 AM
Glad you showed up to slide us of '666'  ;D

keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 23, 2013, 11:06:42 AM
good reading.

I was at the UWW MT Union game when Pierre Garcon lost. He was the only guy I noticed who didn't line up after the game to shake hands. He pretended to look at his knee.

Hasa....if you include non d3 stuff....I have been to several UVA and Va Tech games. I've also been to 2 Orange Bowls. The best game I remember seeing in person was the Thursday night ESPN game when Matt Ryan and BC defeated Va Tech at the least minute, in the torrential downpour! Of course, in addition to the awesome play on the field, I think one reason it was the best ever was that I was dry with a bartender and a fireplace in a suite. ;D. I think I remember attending a Game in Columbia SC once.....too long ago!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 23, 2013, 11:15:43 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 23, 2013, 11:06:42 AM
good reading.

I was at the UWW MT Union game when Pierre Garcon lost. He was the only guy I noticed who didn't line up after the game to shake hands. He pretended to look at his knee.

Hasa....if you include non d3 stuff....I have been to several UVA and Va Tech games. I've also been to 2 Orange Bowls. The best game I remember seeing in person was the Thursday night ESPN game when Matt Ryan and BC defeated Va Tech at the least minute, in the torrential downpour! Of course, in addition to the awesome play on the field, I think one reason it was the best ever was that I was dry with a bartender and a fireplace in a suite. ;D. I think I remember attending a Game in Columbia SC once.....too long ago!
CNU85, while in grad school, I saw every South Carolina home game in 1974 and 1975 ... Paul Dietzel coached the first and Jim Carlen took over the second.  I think the Gamecocks were 4- 7 the first season and 7-5 the second.  Since, I've been back to see them play Kentucky (a great game ... Tim Couch was QB for the Wildcats), Vanderbilt and Mississippi State (twice).   I also saw a memorable upset by Appalachian State in 1975!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2013, 02:24:26 PM
Here is my list:

Apprentice, Averett, Bridgewater, Campbell (1aa non-scholarship), Chowan (now d2), CNU, Davidson (1aa non-scholarship), EHC, Ferrum, Frostburg, Greensboro, Guilford, HSC, Maryville, NCWC, RMC, Salisbury, Shenandoah, Southern Virginia, W&J, Wesley

this weekend i'll see lagrange in person for the first time - in all, 21 different teams (22 after this weekend), all non-scholarship or d3 at the time i saw them play (unless southern va gave scholarships at one time...i can't remember), and i've seen them all play at monarch stadium - in fact, the only road mu game i've ever attended was the mu/campbell game at campbell

there are only 7 teams that mu has ever played (6 after this weekend) that i've never seen in person...catholic, charleston southern, cumberland, gallaudet, jacksonville, lagrange and thomas more

if we want to include d1, i could name off many more...ecu, va tech, ncsu, unc, duke, wake forest, southern miss, wvu, stanford, ut-chatanooga, memphis, miami (miami vs. ecu at ncsu...best game i've ever seen in carter-finley) and i'm sure some others that i'm forgetting...primarily ecu opponents - i've made road trips to see games in blacksburg twice...once i watched ecu try a fake punt on 4th and long from inside their own 20 on the first possession of the game (gotta love steve logan) and the other time i nearly froze to death...literally...it was in the 60's in NC when we left and it was snowing in blacksburg for a 7 pm start the next day...i learned to check the weather forecast for my destination after that trip, because i was unprepared, to say the least - i've seen games at each of the triangle area stadiums (including duke...i actually love wallace-wade, but then, i love small college football and it's got that feel), i've been to ecu games in charlotte and i made a trip to the liberty bowl when ecu played stanford...pretty sure i made it to the game, but after a couple of days on beale street...well, let's just say that the trip to memphis was all a bit foggy...i've heard i had a great time, though :)

i've never been to a d2 game, though...and honestly, can't say i have the desire to do so :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2013, 02:45:17 PM
i'm setting over-under lines for the mu/lagrange game this weekend

points - 80
passing yards - 725
total yards - 1000

lagrange leads the league in passing yards/game at 395.5 while mu gives up 265.5 (6th worst)
mu is third in the league in passing yards/game at 293.3 while lagrange gives up 278.8 (7th worst)

lagrange scores 37.7 ppg (2nd) while mu allows 34.0 (5th)
mu scores scores 31.2 (4th) while lagrange allows 36.8 (7th)

lagrange is 4th in total ypg at 477.7 while mu allows 449.7 (5th)
mu is 2nd in total ypg at 480.8 while lagrange allows 48308 (9th)

these teams are mirrors in almost all areas except that the monarchs are a bit more balanced offensively rushing for 189.5 ypg (lagrange allows 205 ypg on the ground...good for 8th in the conference), while lagrange barely bothers to attempt to run at 82.2 ypg, last in the league

perhaps the monarchs can break out some of what they put on averett in the run game and keep the lagrange offense off the field (although, despite 412 yards rushing, au actually led mu in t.o.p by almost 7 minutes) - either way, it promises to be a fun game to watch if you like offense - here's hoping the monarchs don't make mr. craig look like kyle boden :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 23, 2013, 03:30:43 PM
Quote from: narch on October 23, 2013, 02:45:17 PM
i'm setting over-under lines for the mu/lagrange game this weekend

points - 80
passing yards - 725
total yards - 1000

lagrange leads the league in passing yards/game at 395.5 while mu gives up 265.5 (6th worst)
mu is third in the league in passing yards/game at 293.3 while lagrange gives up 278.8 (7th worst)

lagrange scores 37.7 ppg (2nd) while mu allows 34.0 (5th)
mu scores scores 31.2 (4th) while lagrange allows 36.8 (7th)

lagrange is 4th in total ypg at 477.7 while mu allows 449.7 (5th)
mu is 2nd in total ypg at 480.8 while lagrange allows 48308 (9th)

these teams are mirrors in almost all areas except that the monarchs are a bit more balanced offensively rushing for 189.5 ypg (lagrange allows 205 ypg on the ground...good for 8th in the conference), while lagrange barely bothers to attempt to run at 82.2 ypg, last in the league

perhaps the monarchs can break out some of what they put on averett in the run game and keep the lagrange offense off the field (although, despite 412 yards rushing, au actually led mu in t.o.p by almost 7 minutes) - either way, it promises to be a fun game to watch if you like offense - here's hoping the monarchs don't make mr. craig look like kyle boden :)

You must be in East Tennessee looking over my shoulder. I was talking to my brother about the LC/MU game this weekend and I had the same numbers, but had 775 for passing yards.

This is going to be a crucial game for the entire conference. MU wins, then LC is now on the outside looking in.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 23, 2013, 04:36:28 PM
So you attended ECU, huh narch?  Me and a good friend of mine went there in the late 90s for graduate school....I left when I realized I'd gone for the wrong reasons; you know, like having a good time and avoiding the real world.  I didn't like the idea of paying out of state tuition and not putting in the effort.... 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2013, 05:06:22 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on October 23, 2013, 04:36:28 PM
So you attended ECU, huh narch?
didn't attend...just had some years as a football vagabond, looking for a team to support - ecu had the best tailgate/game-day atmosphere with the hottest girls (don't judge, i was in my 20's...those things were important :)) and the underdog nature of the team made it easy to root for them - i haven't been to an ecu game in close to a decade, and honestly, i don't miss it...i still follow the pirates a bit, but i couldn't tell you their record w/o looking it up (i did watch part of the unc beat-down on tv 'cause i hate the heels...and it was on while i was waiting for and getting my hair cut) - give me a game in monarch stadium where my kids can roam free in the stadium w/o worries and i don't have to sit beside some drunken fool (not judging...i was probably one of them once) 8 days a week
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 23, 2013, 09:31:15 PM
Quote from: narch on October 23, 2013, 05:06:22 PM
give me a game in monarch stadium where my kids can roam free in the stadium w/o worries and i don't have to sit beside some drunken fool (not judging...i was probably one of them once) 8 days a week

This is why you find my family and I at BSC and Huntingdon games and not at Alabama, UAB or Auburn games. Although one of these days I keep saying I'm going to try out Samford.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 23, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
Not to mention you can get up and walk around at mostly all D3 stadiums. Bigger football stadiums, like Neyland up the road, is packed most games with no wiggle room.
Plus, drunk frat boys might be worse than drunk parents. But I guess you could argue the early season plethora of sundresses makes up for the fratties.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 24, 2013, 08:17:26 AM
Quote from: Swish3 on October 23, 2013, 04:36:28 PM
So you attended ECU, huh narch?  Me and a good friend of mine went there in the late 90s for graduate school....I left when I realized I'd gone for the wrong reasons; you know, like having a good time and avoiding the real world.  I didn't like the idea of paying out of state tuition and not putting in the effort....

you should have put more effort into having a good time and avoiding the real world!! bahahaha
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 24, 2013, 08:42:18 AM
LOL!  Not bad, 85....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 24, 2013, 10:01:53 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 23, 2013, 09:38:00 PM
Not to mention you can get up and walk around at mostly all D3 stadiums. Bigger football stadiums, like Neyland up the road, is packed most games with no wiggle room.
Plus, drunk frat boys might be worse than drunk parents. But I guess you could argue the early season plethora of sundresses makes up for the fratties.
I went to grad school at South Carolina and the frat boys were in party mode no later than 4 pm Friday on home game weekends - and most games don't kick-off until 7 pm Saturday early in the season!  Let me rephase that ... they were in party mode by 4 pm whether we had a home game or not.  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 24, 2013, 11:38:36 AM
If you drive by my grad school on game day, the nerds are probably playing Quidditch!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 24, 2013, 11:41:04 AM
Read ATR yesterday. It is always nice to read about your team/school. Adam does a great job of getting the story right. It gives credibility and on the weeks when he writes about other teams/schools I know he getting that right, as well. Thus, I enjoy the weekly stuff! Nice, Adam!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 24, 2013, 11:57:15 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 24, 2013, 11:41:04 AM
Read ATR yesterday. It is always nice to read about your team/school. Adam does a great job of getting the story right. It gives credibility and on the weeks when he writes about other teams/schools I know he getting that right, as well. Thus, I enjoy the weekly stuff! Nice, Adam!
I read it too and agree with you wholeheartedly.  It helps put the game in its proper perspective.  Don't know if he always practiced what he preached, but this was Lou Holtz's stated priorities to his players:

Faith, Family, School, Football and Social Life

In the broader sense, your team and your coaches are your family.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 24, 2013, 09:43:17 PM
Narch, thought you might find this interesting, but take it for what it's worth..

Compughterratings.com has the MU/LC game 44-43 LaGrange
AND
Atomicfootball.com has the game 37-36 LaGrange.

Can't get much more evenly matched than that, computer generated or not.

I need Methodist to win this one. Get LaGrange out of the picture and let Huntingdon and Maryville duke it out Week 11! (Knock on wood MC doesn't slip up on Ferrum or Greensboro.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 24, 2013, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 24, 2013, 09:43:17 PM
Narch, thought you might find this interesting, but take it for what it's worth..

Compughterratings.com has the MU/LC game 44-43 LaGrange
AND
Atomicfootball.com has the game 37-36 LaGrange.

Can't get much more evenly matched than that, computer generated or not.

I need Methodist to win this one. Get LaGrange out of the picture and let Huntingdon and Maryville duke it out Week 11! (Knock on wood MC doesn't slip up on Ferrum or Greensboro.)
i'd take either result in reverse :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 24, 2013, 10:10:14 PM
Quote from: narch on October 24, 2013, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 24, 2013, 09:43:17 PM
Narch, thought you might find this interesting, but take it for what it's worth..

Compughterratings.com has the MU/LC game 44-43 LaGrange
AND
Atomicfootball.com has the game 37-36 LaGrange.

Can't get much more evenly matched than that, computer generated or not.

I need Methodist to win this one. Get LaGrange out of the picture and let Huntingdon and Maryville duke it out Week 11! (Knock on wood MC doesn't slip up on Ferrum or Greensboro.)
i'd take either result in reverse :)

So would I. I don't want LaGrange breathing down our backs come Nov. 16th. We have enough to worry about in Montgomery!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 26, 2013, 05:22:45 PM
43-41...monarchs - reber threw for 459 and 5 tds, ran for 63 and another td - the lc qb threw for 380...a little over 1000 total yds...over won all three bets:)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 26, 2013, 07:56:48 PM
Thanks, MU. Back to controlling our own destiny. A whole lot of work still to do though. 590+ yards of offense for HC but still lots of issues on defense. Gotta take care of business against Averett then get ramped up for those two big ones at home to finish up.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 26, 2013, 08:14:24 PM
Hawks

i had to work but got in long enough to watch/listen to the 4th quarter.
What has happeend to our D ?????

i pray yall are well, keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 26, 2013, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 26, 2013, 08:14:24 PM
Hawks

i had to work but got in long enough to watch/listen to the 4th quarter.
What has happeend to our D ?????

i pray yall are well, keep the faith

I really think I'll be watching some fireworks come 11/16.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 26, 2013, 10:56:30 PM
today was a record setting day for max reber, and next week could see him set a number of season records, as well...

one more completion will set the season completion mark, 1 more td will set the season td mark and 33 more yards will set the season yardage mark

if reber happens to hit vaughn cross for a td, cross will own the season td mark (he already owns most career receiving marks)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 26, 2013, 10:58:56 PM
i am hoping the Hawks can find a D, and still manage to light up folk for the next 3 weekends.

Each saturday is gonna be tough and must wins, but the 11/9/13 worries me, and the 11/16/13 is with one of our big rivals.

For the 11/16 game, Offensively, they will know each other (The Murrval head coach was the play caller and recievers coach at Huntingdon, and the OLine coach for Murrval was an outstanding 3 yr starter at Tackle and Cnter for the Hawks)...........but.... to your point.... yea might be some fireworks in Montgomery on 11/16
Still, got to take each week as it comes, and No body can ever look past Methodist
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 27, 2013, 07:18:17 AM
Quote from: narch on October 26, 2013, 10:56:30 PM
today was a record setting day for max reber, and next week could see him set a number of season records, as well...

one more completion will set the season completion mark, 1 more td will set the season td mark and 33 more yards will set the season yardage mark

if reber happens to hit vaughn cross for a td, cross will own the season td mark (he already owns most career receiving marks)
I've seen him play, narch.  I agree, he's special.  Congratulations on the win over LC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 29, 2013, 01:52:43 PM
the person who chose this week's nomination for usasac play of the week (http://usasouth.net/sports/fball/2013-14/releases/20131028miqpn0) for mu had a difficult job...there were 4 or 5 really spectacular plays to choose from, and in my mind, the td to page might have been the 3rd best (but still really good)

i wish i could get my hands on film of the blake scott td catch (he was laid out and caught it parallel to the ground) or the radke td catch (finger-tip grab, then bowled over the safety en route to the end zone) - both of cross' td's were pretty special, too...on the 77 yarder, he took a slant at about 12 to 15 yards and just outran every lagrange defender and on the 13 yarder he went airborne between two defenders to stretch the ball across the goal line

here's hoping that the monarchs get more offensive firepower this weekend (and stopping somebody would be good, too...lagrange only punted once in the 2nd half) - i think the monarchs have a score to settle with gc - in my (admittedly biased) estimation, gc was not as good as mu last year, but came out of monarch stadium with a win - i hope every monarch player who was on the field last year recalls that feeling and uses it as motivation - the monarchs need EVERY game to have an outside shot at their first post-season, but a loss this weekend would mean that there is still some distance to go...the monarchs have won 8 of their last 10 games, but a loss this weekend makes that irrelevant
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 29, 2013, 05:18:59 PM
If Reber and Co. play like they have been over the past several weeks, you shouldn't have much to worry about. I sure am glad we had MU early in the season. Your boys had someone lit a fire under their tails.
With the way Greensboro's QB has been playing, both this year and several games last year, I wonder if he had other schools interested in him coming out of high school or if GC just wooed him first?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 31, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
FootballScoop.com is reporting LaGrange has promoted Mumme to HBC this morning...
Apparently Mooney stepped down.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 31, 2013, 12:50:31 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
FootballScoop.com is reporting LaGrange has promoted Mumme to HBC this morning...
Apparently Mooney stepped down.

Got to be a story there. Especially since they say the DC stepped down as well. Of course, they have LaGrange listed as D2, so I'm not sure how plugged in they are.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 31, 2013, 12:55:50 PM
There's a little write up on LaGrange's website. Only thing it says about Mooney is he's "pursuing other opportunities."

Since this is the Matt Mumme Show from now on, watch out for LaGrange. I have a hunch he can recruit GA's D3 talent pool dry.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 31, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
FootballScoop.com is reporting LaGrange has promoted Mumme to HBC this morning...
Apparently Mooney stepped down.
whoa...can't remember ever seeing a d3 coach in this region step down (or get fired, for that matter) at this stage of the season...let's see how the panthers respond
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2013, 01:12:41 PM
I called and texted Mooney for comment but have not heard back.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 31, 2013, 01:29:21 PM
Quote from: narch on October 31, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
FootballScoop.com is reporting LaGrange has promoted Mumme to HBC this morning...
Apparently Mooney stepped down.
whoa...can't remember ever seeing a d3 coach in this region step down (or get fired, for that matter) at this stage of the season...let's see how the panthers respond

That's what I was thinking. If this does turn out to be a pursuing other interests case, I hope it's good enough to leave LaGrange with no regrets and the best move for both Mooney and his family. Only 3 games..let's see what Mumme can do.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 31, 2013, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2013, 01:29:21 PM
Quote from: narch on October 31, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
FootballScoop.com is reporting LaGrange has promoted Mumme to HBC this morning...
Apparently Mooney stepped down.
whoa...can't remember ever seeing a d3 coach in this region step down (or get fired, for that matter) at this stage of the season...let's see how the panthers respond

That's what I was thinking. If this does turn out to be a pursuing other interests case, I hope it's good enough to leave LaGrange with no regrets and the best move for both Mooney and his family. Only 3 games..let's see what Mumme can do.
Not sure what's up with the Mooney-Mumme musical chairs at LaGrange, but that "pursuing other interests" line is typical corporate jargon for "he did something he shouldn't have done or ticked off someone he shouldn't have ticked off."  With the assistant in the mix too, it makes you wonder.  In my mind, it would have to be something fairly significant to prompt a sudden change with three games to go.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 31, 2013, 03:57:44 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 31, 2013, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2013, 01:29:21 PM
Quote from: narch on October 31, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
FootballScoop.com is reporting LaGrange has promoted Mumme to HBC this morning...
Apparently Mooney stepped down.
whoa...can't remember ever seeing a d3 coach in this region step down (or get fired, for that matter) at this stage of the season...let's see how the panthers respond

That's what I was thinking. If this does turn out to be a pursuing other interests case, I hope it's good enough to leave LaGrange with no regrets and the best move for both Mooney and his family. Only 3 games..let's see what Mumme can do.
Not sure what's up with the Mooney-Mumme musical chairs at LaGrange, but that "pursuing other interests" line is typical corporate jargon for "he did something he shouldn't have done or ticked off someone he shouldn't have ticked off."  With the assistant in the mix too, it makes you wonder.  In my mind, it would have to be something fairly significant to prompt a sudden change with three games to go.

If it was something he/they did, I'd hope to God it was borderline death penalty for the program to let go of the man who started the program from the ground up with games still left on the schedule. If not, then shame on the college. They haven't set the world on fire, but still a solid program and good for the USAC.  Maybe the admin got tired of seeing 40+ points put on the board every game and still being only 3-4? That would make sense in my mind for the DC to leave too. Who knows. I hope it's not a sticky situation in LaGrange like it was a few years ago in Maryville with Coach Ierulli. Probably won't be..Ierulli was an alum and Mooney isn't.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 31, 2013, 04:38:22 PM
I had my usual Thursday lunch with several folks from the CNU athletic dept. After lunch I was at my desk and looked at d3football.com and saw the news about LaGrange. Then went to their website. I sent an email to CNU and they didn't know about it. The team is getting on the bus in about an hour to start the trip to GA.

Interesting. Reminds me of CNU women's hoops coaching resigning just before the season after a final 4 appearance without any comments or celebration of her accomplishments.

Pat will keep us posted - if he finds anything out. Sounds like this may be a secret for a while.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 31, 2013, 04:39:47 PM
went to LaGrange football website. Clicked on coaches.....Mooney is nowhere to be seen. That was quick.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2013, 05:21:01 PM
Actually, it wasn't quick enough. His bio was still there after noon today. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 31, 2013, 07:18:59 PM
the Atl J and constitution had a blurb
http://blogs.ajc.com/college-football-insider-blog/2013/10/31/mumme-takes-over-at-lagrange/?cxntfid=blogs_college_football_insider_blog
nothing on our local news (LaGrange Ga is ~35 miles from the farm...through the woods and accross the 'Hooch)
???

keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2013, 08:39:32 PM
Pretty similar to what we wrote, except we did our due diligence as journalists and tried to get hold of Mooney:

http://www.d3football.com/notables/2013/10/lagrange-mooney-out-mumme-in
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 31, 2013, 09:54:45 PM
i just searched the local news outlets, still nuthing ?

I dislike LaGrange (for several reasons)...but, i hope all is well with the program , the 2 coaches, their families, and thie entire LaGrange nation

other than kids looking for sugar and chcolate.... the entire ' chatthoochie valley ' appears quiet tonight

Hawks88................you out there.... heard anything ?

keep the faith
and Pat... i rate yall way higher than the AJC ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2013, 10:23:26 PM
I figure it's because we actually heard of LaGrange before Mumme got there. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 31, 2013, 10:52:01 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 31, 2013, 09:54:45 PM


Hawks88................you out there.... heard anything ?

keep the faith
and Pat... i rate yall way higher than the AJC ;)
Nah, I wouldn't know anything about it. Definitely not your average football season Thursday. Can't help but wonder what's going on over there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on November 01, 2013, 08:37:31 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2013, 10:23:26 PM
I figure it's because we actually heard of LaGrange before Mumme got there. :)

Well, you will hear a lot more of us now that Mumme is the HBC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 01, 2013, 10:04:58 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on November 01, 2013, 08:37:31 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2013, 10:23:26 PM
I figure it's because we actually heard of LaGrange before Mumme got there. :)

Well, you will hear a lot more of us now that Mumme is the HBC.

You mean the mainstream media will. D3football.com is already very familiar with LaGrange. :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 01, 2013, 11:47:31 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 01, 2013, 10:04:58 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on November 01, 2013, 08:37:31 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2013, 10:23:26 PM
I figure it's because we actually heard of LaGrange before Mumme got there. :)

Well, you will hear a lot more of us now that Mumme is the HBC.

You mean the mainstream media will. D3football.com is already very familiar with LaGrange. :)
Yeah, I think he means mainstream media since Mumme's father used to be on the SEC radar when he was head coach at Kentucky.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 01, 2013, 12:46:13 PM
Quote from: hasanova on November 01, 2013, 11:47:31 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 01, 2013, 10:04:58 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on November 01, 2013, 08:37:31 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 31, 2013, 10:23:26 PM
I figure it's because we actually heard of LaGrange before Mumme got there. :)

Well, you will hear a lot more of us now that Mumme is the HBC.

You mean the mainstream media will. D3football.com is already very familiar with LaGrange. :)
Yeah, I think he means mainstream media since Mumme's father used to be on the SEC radar when he was head coach at Kentucky.

I can see the headlines now...
"Son of Ex-SEC Head Coach Now Coaching in SEC Country"
..or something like that. I'll let the professionals take care of it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 01, 2013, 02:36:56 PM
maybe they quit to take similar open positions at FAU? bahahahaha
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 01, 2013, 03:40:50 PM
Who knows? hahaha
I did kind of get a little chuckle when I realized what had happened at FAU and thought "well, what if the same happened at LaGrange?" Since it was still hot off the press so to speak.

(Of course, I'm kidding and not insinuating they did. Remember, I'm still young and still like to laugh at things that others find not so funny.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 01, 2013, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 01, 2013, 03:40:50 PM
Who knows? hahaha
I did kind of get a little chuckle when I realized what had happened at FAU and thought "well, what if the same happened at LaGrange?" Since it was still hot off the press so to speak.

(Of course, I'm kidding and not insinuating they did. Remember, I'm still young and still like to laugh at things that others find not so funny.)

I'm old and I still laugh at things others find not so funny!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 01, 2013, 04:06:48 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 01, 2013, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 01, 2013, 03:40:50 PM
Who knows? hahaha
I did kind of get a little chuckle when I realized what had happened at FAU and thought "well, what if the same happened at LaGrange?" Since it was still hot off the press so to speak.

(Of course, I'm kidding and not insinuating they did. Remember, I'm still young and still like to laugh at things that others find not so funny.)

I'm old and I still laugh at things others find not so funny!
I like to think age and humor are mutually exclusive ... especially when you resist growing up anyway.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 01, 2013, 05:24:14 PM
Quote from: hasanova on November 01, 2013, 04:06:48 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 01, 2013, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 01, 2013, 03:40:50 PM
Who knows? hahaha
I did kind of get a little chuckle when I realized what had happened at FAU and thought "well, what if the same happened at LaGrange?" Since it was still hot off the press so to speak.

(Of course, I'm kidding and not insinuating they did. Remember, I'm still young and still like to laugh at things that others find not so funny.)

I'm old and I still laugh at things others find not so funny!
I like to think age and humor are mutually exclusive ... especially when you resist growing up anyway.  :)

When it comes to humor, I hope I'm like yall when I "grow up." I hope I'm 6 feet under before I stop laughing at some things. Passed the 16th grade, but sense of humor still hasn't made it out of 8th grade!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on November 01, 2013, 06:29:55 PM
I am not a frequent poster on "D-3 Boards", but I will be for the next several days after the bush-league move by our Athletic Director and President Alexander in the removal of Coach Todd Mooney.  To say the least the players, and I have talked to many over the past 24 hours, are upset and shocked in Coach Mooney's dismissal (don't believe what the LaGrange press release says). 

The team has shown great progress this year with a great win, just 2 weeks ago, against Huntingdon and with a winning conference record.  The offense has shown great improvement and the defense has been much better than in the previous season.

The removal of Coach Mooney, who started the LaGrange football program, and when it was done shows absolutely no class by a puppet Athletic Director and a President who rarely shows up to many athletic events at LaGrange.

Coach Mooney will be greatly missed and I wish him the best.  You deserved much better in return from LaGrange.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 01, 2013, 10:35:20 PM
details yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 01, 2013, 11:48:41 PM
here is all i can find
http://www.lagrangenews.com/news/sports/2779937/Coaching-change-for-Panthers

so.........again D3.com whips the Lagrange news and the Atlanta Journal
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 02, 2013, 12:13:07 AM
The local paper doesn't even know more? Jeez. There has to be another story. This is basically a "same s**t, different day" write up. Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 02, 2013, 09:18:07 AM
Scots... comeon buddy.. rural Jawja papaers are just like rural Bama or country papaers in tenn... if they did know civility precludes them from tellin ;)
keep the faith

Go Hawk
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 02, 2013, 10:53:19 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 02, 2013, 09:18:07 AM
Scots... comeon buddy.. rural Jawja papaers are just like rural Bama or country papaers in tenn... if they did know civility precludes them from tellin ;)
keep the faith

Go Hawk

Growing up the paper in town only ran twice a week, but since I've moved down to Tennessee and stayed in God's country after graduating, I've gotten spoiled by Knoxville. Knoxville paper's let'em have it everyday. No civility for miles around Knoxville.  :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 02, 2013, 12:55:04 PM
We have no TV (on a good day we can get a channel out of Columbus Ga,) and we only get the weekly LaFayette Sun News paper (Lafafette Alabama...here in Cambers county)

This is my first weekend off in a while and Huntingdon is in Danville, Va

i think i might drive down to Lochapoka to see my middle girl, 2 grandbabies, and watch the Dade county thugs vs the pan handle Criminoles with one of the sons-in-law........
or stay here, work on the motorcycle and try to get the Huntingdon game on the web
so many choices.........so little time   :D

i pray all have a great weekend
keep the faith and Go Hawks

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 02, 2013, 01:57:31 PM
2nd quarter 15-7 Huntingdon... rocky start, but things are looking up
now, if i can only find my 9nn socket for my 1/4" driver...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 02, 2013, 02:10:53 PM
1/2 time
Averett-7 Huntingdon-22

If only i could fix this wiring harness   ???
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2013, 02:15:58 PM
i don't mean this disrespectfully, but the gc "broadcast" of the game is laughable - there is one dude talking in the background, barely audible and they literally sound like they are just watching a game and talking...i'm sure it's a couple of students, but really, why bother if you can't get someone who cares to call the action on the field

and who doesn't know how to pronounce monarchs? moe-narchs, really?

livestats froze at 7:45 in the 2nd with mu up 20-14, and after more than 15 minutes watching (including one score by mu), i have no idea what the score is
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2013, 03:34:56 PM
in fairness to the gc "broadcast" team, they've gotten better in the second half...still mispronouncing monarchs and still one dude off mic, but better :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 02, 2013, 03:50:34 PM
Didn't get to see much of this one. We had our company picnic today so I was mostly keeping up with play by play on my phone. 717 yds of total offense for the Hawks. Very nice except for the early trips inside the 5 that got no points. Good job by the defense, 168 yds of offense for Averett with 90 of those on the late TD drive.
Looking forward to the big one with Methodist next week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 02, 2013, 06:07:20 PM
Holy Jesus Mary and Joseph.
MU 51 GC 50
Reber 30-45 378 yards 4 scores
Throndset 47-70 575 yards 6 scores
Dexter Russell 309 yards on 23 catches.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2013, 07:54:22 PM
that was one wild, defensive struggle in the 'boro today...just glad my monarchs came out on top

i never thought i would say this, but i am going to be the pride's biggest fan next weekend...the only real shot mu has at their first out-right conference championship is to win out (the hawks offense scares the heck out of me) and hope that m'ville loses their last two

go monarchs...and...this is tough...go pride
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 02, 2013, 07:56:34 PM
Hawks
in the first half ...with the gaol line stands that Averett made (which were pretty good) the game was...well ..interesting, but from the safety to the end of the 1/2, and the 2nd half... i mostly worked on the Trike (as u know, she needs work)
hope yall had a great day
keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 02, 2013, 08:28:07 PM
CNU 13 LaGrange 10.  Interesting score on Senior Night at LaGrange. 

I will look forward to the progress at LaGrange over the next 13 months, especially with more reps by the QB's and the receiver corps.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 02, 2013, 11:24:49 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 02, 2013, 08:28:07 PM
CNU 13 LaGrange 10.  Interesting score on Senior Night at LaGrange. 

I will look forward to the progress at LaGrange over the next 13 months, especially with more reps by the QB's and the receiver corps.

This score is a bit of a shocker. High powered offense scoring 10 points? Where ya at Mumme?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 03, 2013, 04:58:26 PM
How I wrote it in the wrapup:

After the unexpected departure of coach Todd Mooney and LaGrange's defensive coordinator, the Panthers' defense played better but Matt Mumme's offense didn't show up as Christopher Newport edged LaGrange 13-10.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 03, 2013, 09:55:44 PM
Dud of the week goes to LaGrange's offense. (Coaches, not players)

Really could've made a statement here. CNU's offense isn't really geared to score quick or all that often, but rather ball control. CNU D stepped up to the plate and made their own statement. Still shaking my head and trying to figure out what happened here.  ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 03, 2013, 10:40:49 PM
The Hawks can find their 'D' again before Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 03, 2013, 10:53:40 PM
The Averett game was just in time to get the Hawks D back in form and get their confidence back up.

Still can't believe yall let them put 20 up on the board... ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on November 04, 2013, 12:34:15 PM
You are right Scots, a very winable game which I place on the President's and AD's shoulders.  Our players had gone through alot during the previous 48 hours before the game.  Many were very upset the Coach Mooney wasn't on the sideline.  In fact, I counted at least 30 players had the name "Mooney" written on the tape on their wrists and ankles.

The defense played well which was expected since CNU has one of the worst offense in the conference this season.  But I was really surprised that our offense was shutdown.  Our sideline was disorganized, players were yelling at each other, no true leadership was show by the new head coach and remaining assistants.  Coach Mooney always had great game management leadership.

The reasons coming out for Coach Mooney's dismissal is just laughable.  It seems like they found a couple of players who complained about Coach and based his dismissal on those few players. 

It truly seemed that LaGrange was just turning the corner with the success of our offense and solid defense through most of the year.  Coach Mooney and his staff worked very hard upgrading the talent and putting in a new offensive scheme this season.

It is also coming out that the AD has been wanting to get rid of Mooney for the past few years despite Mooney being a big support of our AD.  She is also the softball coach at LaGrange which probably explains alot of things......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 04, 2013, 01:48:35 PM
i was just looking at some numbers for this upcoming weekend...

this game features the #1 (huntingdon, 589.3 ypg) and #11 (mu, 511.5 ypg) offense in the nation through 11/2/13

hc is 6th in passing at 347 ypg and 28th in rushing at 242.3 ypg

mu is 12th in passing at 323.8 ypg and 80th in rushing at 187.7 ypg

max reber is currently #1 in the nation in total offense at 382.4 ypg

here is where things get ugly...

hc is tied for 170th in total defense at 412.4 ypg, while mu is tied at 217 yielding a whopping 467.4 ypg...hc is 234 (of 242) in passing yards allowed and mu is 242 (of 242) in passing yards allowed

i'm setting my over-under predictions for this week...
90 points
1200 total yards
775 passing yards

anyone want to take the under on any of those :)

should be an exciting weekend of football in the usasac...wins by hc and m'ville would set up a huge final weekend for those two teams, while losses by both would put the monarchs in a good position...i'm pulling for the big cats in the games that matter this weekend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 04, 2013, 01:54:42 PM
Do a little quick google search on Tony Ierulli. Sounds like the same exact thing other than we didn't have an assistant promoted to full time head ball coach. Hindsight is 20/20 and I'd be bold faced lying if I said I didn't like the new staff and what they bring to the table and being 13-5 since the beginning of Rader's tenure.  Hopefully everything will work out for the best interest for all involved.
Do coaches get fired? Yes.
Should coaches get fired with 2 games left and 2 days before a conference game? Hell no.
If LaGrange wanted a coaching change they should've done it after the season because, let's face it, the have the right to. The way they have treated Coach Mooney and his family is despicable in my opinion. Shame on them.
I feel for those guys that are caught up in the middle of this, players and assistants.

Good luck to Mumme. Fair weather fans will come out of the woodwork and bash every move he makes until he starts winning.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on November 04, 2013, 03:54:43 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 04, 2013, 01:54:42 PM

Should coaches get fired with 2 games left and 2 days before a conference game? Hell no.
If LaGrange wanted a coaching change they should've done it after the season because, let's face it, the have the right to. The way they have treated Coach Mooney and his family is despicable in my opinion. Shame on them.
I feel for those guys that are caught up in the middle of this, players and assistants.

Good luck to Mumme. Fair weather fans will come out of the woodwork and bash every move he makes until he starts winning.

Really?  Please tell us what you know of the situation...I am curious to know how you know so much what is happening in LaGrange.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on November 04, 2013, 04:00:03 PM
Quote from: PantherGuy on November 04, 2013, 12:34:15 PM
You are right Scots, a very winable game which I place on the President's and AD's shoulders.  Our players had gone through alot during the previous 48 hours before the game.  Many were very upset the Coach Mooney wasn't on the sideline.  In fact, I counted at least 30 players had the name "Mooney" written on the tape on their wrists and ankles.

The defense played well which was expected since CNU has one of the worst offense in the conference this season.  But I was really surprised that our offense was shutdown.  Our sideline was disorganized, players were yelling at each other, no true leadership was show by the new head coach and remaining assistants.  Coach Mooney always had great game management leadership.

The reasons coming out for Coach Mooney's dismissal is just laughable.  It seems like they found a couple of players who complained about Coach and based his dismissal on those few players. 

It truly seemed that LaGrange was just turning the corner with the success of our offense and solid defense through most of the year.  Coach Mooney and his staff worked very hard upgrading the talent and putting in a new offensive scheme this season.

It is also coming out that the AD has been wanting to get rid of Mooney for the past few years despite Mooney being a big support of our AD.  She is also the softball coach at LaGrange which probably explains alot of things......
::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 04, 2013, 04:58:14 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on November 04, 2013, 03:54:43 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 04, 2013, 01:54:42 PM

Should coaches get fired with 2 games left and 2 days before a conference game? Hell no.
If LaGrange wanted a coaching change they should've done it after the season because, let's face it, the have the right to. The way they have treated Coach Mooney and his family is despicable in my opinion. Shame on them.
I feel for those guys that are caught up in the middle of this, players and assistants.

Good luck to Mumme. Fair weather fans will come out of the woodwork and bash every move he makes until he starts winning.

Really?  Please tell us what you know of the situation...I am curious to know how you know so much what is happening in LaGrange.

Firstly, I don't very much like the tone of your response. I am on your side on this matter, and I would like to be treated with such respect. I could've been one of the many that saw the news and laughed at the situation and thought to myself, "Who cares about LaGrange?" (Trust me, many have). However, I looked at it, read what was available, saw the travesty, and formed my own opinion on the matter. With what you posted earlier leads me to believe that my assumptions were correct.

Secondly, I have literally been in this situation. Personally. Me. I. Myself. With MY team. And not in the far distant past. This is nothing new. The way the  situation was handled down at LaGrange is not the first time something like this has happened, nor will it be the last.  LaGrange College, Maryville College, XYZ College/University are not on islands.  And yes, the truth hurts. People couldn't give half a rats a$$ about a 3-5 Division III football team when in the middle of SEC country. MARYVILLE IS 15 MILES FROM NEYLAND. I can personally attest to this fact, along with 120 former teammates. When Rader was hired, it felt like the entire Knox Metro area bashed not only the football program, but the school along with it for the entire off season and 6 weeks into the 2012 season. Now because MC is 7-1, unbeaten in USAC play and Rader is 13-5 overall, people are not "hating" anymore. So when I said, and I'm quoting myself:
"Good luck to Mumme. Fair weather fans will come out of the woodwork and bash every move he makes until he starts winning."...I was not pulling junk out of my backside.

If you want to see what a situation like this is going to produce, go to knoxnews.com, search Tony Ierulli, Maryville College, or Maryville College Football, then read the articles, then after you formulate your own opinion and thoughts comparing the two situations, READ THE COMMENTS.

I would love to continue to have a conversion about this topic, as well as continue to give support to the obviously emotionally hurt LaGrange players and fan base.  However, please resist from using an arrogant, sharp, and ungrounded language during our conversions.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 04, 2013, 07:41:12 PM
i will miss the Methodist-Huntingdon game (got to work), but plan on being there for Murrval

Scots, if u make to Montgomery for the regular season final... look for me, i set near the grounds keepers who ride golf carts. ill be the old, fat, blad headed man setting in a folding red chairi under the score board, on the north end of the field.

holler, ill buy u a cola
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 04, 2013, 07:57:39 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 04, 2013, 07:41:12 PM
i will miss the Methodist-Huntingdon game (got to work), but plan on being there for Murrval

Scots, if u make to Montgomery for the regular season final... look for me, i set near the grounds keepers who ride golf carts. ill be the old, fat, blad headed man setting in a folding red chairi under the score board, on the north end of the field.

holler, ill buy u a cola
keep the faith
My dad and I are hoping to be there for Maryville as well depending on the weather.  Take care of business against Methodist and make it interesting!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 04, 2013, 08:53:10 PM
I may have to miss the Methodist game too. Work stuff. :( Will be my first home game missed since 2008 if I can't get there. Will definitely be there for Murvul though. Hopefully we've gotten it back together the last couple of weeks and can take care of MU.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 04, 2013, 10:01:02 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 04, 2013, 07:57:39 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 04, 2013, 07:41:12 PM
i will miss the Methodist-Huntingdon game (got to work), but plan on being there for Murrval

Scots, if u make to Montgomery for the regular season final... look for me, i set near the grounds keepers who ride golf carts. ill be the old, fat, blad headed man setting in a folding red chairi under the score board, on the north end of the field.

holler, ill buy u a cola
keep the faith
My dad and I are hoping to be there for Maryville as well depending on the weather.  Take care of business against Methodist and make it interesting!

I appreciate the offer, DG. You get the cokes and I'll bring some of that sweet Tennessee whiskey. We can have ourselves a good ol' time
If Methodist beats yall this weekend, and of course MC doesn't blow it, then I probably won't make it down for our game. Have to save gas money to make the playoff trip. But if both of us win this weekend, I'll definitely be in Montgomery.

I'll be the short guy with an orange $50k alumni shirt, black jacket and by that time, an awfully rough looking November beard.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on November 04, 2013, 10:43:48 PM

[/quote]

Firstly, I don't very much like the tone of your response. I am on your side on this matter, and I would like to be treated with such respect. I could've been one of the many that saw the news and laughed at the situation and thought to myself, "Who cares about LaGrange?" (Trust me, many have). However, I looked at it, read what was available, saw the travesty, and formed my own opinion on the matter. With what you posted earlier leads me to believe that my assumptions were correct.

Secondly, I have literally been in this situation. Personally. Me. I. Myself. With MY team. And not in the far distant past. This is nothing new. The way the  situation was handled down at LaGrange is not the first time something like this has happened, nor will it be the last.  LaGrange College, Maryville College, XYZ College/University are not on islands.  And yes, the truth hurts. People couldn't give half a rats a$$ about a 3-5 Division III football team when in the middle of SEC country. MARYVILLE IS 15 MILES FROM NEYLAND. I can personally attest to this fact, along with 120 former teammates. When Rader was hired, it felt like the entire Knox Metro area bashed not only the football program, but the school along with it for the entire off season and 6 weeks into the 2012 season. Now because MC is 7-1, unbeaten in USAC play and Rader is 13-5 overall, people are not "hating" anymore. So when I said, and I'm quoting myself:
"Good luck to Mumme. Fair weather fans will come out of the woodwork and bash every move he makes until he starts winning."...I was not pulling junk out of my backside.

If you want to see what a situation like this is going to produce, go to knoxnews.com, search Tony Ierulli, Maryville College, or Maryville College Football, then read the articles, then after you formulate your own opinion and thoughts comparing the two situations, READ THE COMMENTS.

I would love to continue to have a conversion about this topic, as well as continue to give support to the obviously emotionally hurt LaGrange players and fan base.  However, please resist from using an arrogant, sharp, and ungrounded language during our conversions.
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So basically you have an uninformed opinion because if you actually read the press release the only thing either side is saying then you would know that Coach Mooney resigned  to seek other opportunities.  Why?  No one knows because nothing has been in the press so maybe that is the whole truth.  Anything else is pure speculation. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 04, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
Please don't insult my intelligence.

A man that started at a school and went 0-20 does not leave a team like this with 3 weeks to go.

If it were purely a "other interest" situation, don't you think he'd be proud about the new opportunity and say something via press release or reply text message to Pat?

Listen to the podcast this week were Pat and Keith talked about the Mooney situation. As they stated, he hasn't said anything because he doesn't "want to burn bridges." When it comes to D3 football, I'd shut up and listen to what these guys have to say. This isn't their first rodeo.

I'm not a fan. Not a parent. Not a high school coach. I am a four year football alumni of a USAC team. Being privileged to play is also being privileged to see, hear, and experience the inner workings of collegiate football. I'm not claiming to be an expert, but I am, however, claiming to be smarter than the average bear.  And having experience to having witnessed a coaching change, it is MY OPINION*** that this is a firing and promotion, not just a step down. If it were a step down, why is the DC gone too? LC's defense isn't stellar, so that leads me to believe the firing conspiracy theory.

AND, lets face it. Mumme is not an unknown name. Perfect opportunity for the administration to flex its muscle. It is MY OPINION*** that LaGrange is trying to piggy back on Mumme's last name and get more recruits on campus.

I still, after all this, support Coach Mooney and the LaGrange players in this tough time. (It's a fact this is a tough time for the players. Don't try to argue/question me on this point.)


***ALL OPINIONS STATED IN THE POST ARE THE SOLE PROPERTY OF SCOTS13. SINCE THIS IS STILL THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, HE RESERVES THE RIGHT TO POST HIS OWN, SELF-CONCEIVED OPINIONS ON MATTERS HE SO CHOOSES.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 05, 2013, 11:40:31 AM
Congratulations to Dexter Russell for being named to the d3football Team of the Week.  Well done!

WR Dexter Russell, Sr., Greensboro
Russell caught 23 passes for 309 yards and three touchdowns in a 51-50 loss to Methodist. That total doesn't include a two-point conversion pass he caught with 6:57 to go in the game to give the Pride a 50-44 lead. He was two catches short of tying the Division III mark for receptions in a game.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 05, 2013, 03:43:14 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 04, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
***ALL OPINIONS STATED IN THE POST ARE THE SOLE PROPERTY OF SCOTS13. SINCE THIS IS STILL THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, HE RESERVES THE RIGHT TO POST HIS OWN, SELF-CONCEIVED OPINIONS ON MATTERS HE SO CHOOSES.

Skoal, Brother!! (you're probably too young for that comment.....google Earl Campbell and Skoal)

;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 05, 2013, 03:51:05 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 05, 2013, 03:43:14 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 04, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
***ALL OPINIONS STATED IN THE POST ARE THE SOLE PROPERTY OF SCOTS13. SINCE THIS IS STILL THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, HE RESERVES THE RIGHT TO POST HIS OWN, SELF-CONCEIVED OPINIONS ON MATTERS HE SO CHOOSES.

Skoal, Brother!! (you're probably too young for that comment.....google Earl Campbell and Skoal)

;D

Gonna date myself here..
you're right. Skoal Brother has me by a decade. Found the youtube commercial clip. Got a good chuckle out of it.

More of a Copenhagen man myself.  8-)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 05, 2013, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 05, 2013, 03:51:05 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 05, 2013, 03:43:14 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 04, 2013, 11:23:09 PM
***ALL OPINIONS STATED IN THE POST ARE THE SOLE PROPERTY OF SCOTS13. SINCE THIS IS STILL THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, HE RESERVES THE RIGHT TO POST HIS OWN, SELF-CONCEIVED OPINIONS ON MATTERS HE SO CHOOSES.

Skoal, Brother!! (you're probably too young for that comment.....google Earl Campbell and Skoal)

;D

Gonna date myself here..
you're right. Skoal Brother has me by a decade. Found the youtube commercial clip. Got a good chuckle out of it.

More of a Copenhagen man myself.  8-)

I was a silver creek guy, back in the day!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 05, 2013, 04:08:12 PM
Never heard of Silver Creek. Might have to give it a try.

Now you got me watching old tobacco commercials on youtube. I think my new hero is Walt Garrison. All I need now is a leather vest and a cowboy hat and I'll be set!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 05, 2013, 04:21:38 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on November 04, 2013, 10:43:48 PM
So basically you have an uninformed opinion because if you actually read the press release the only thing either side is saying then you would know that Coach Mooney resigned  to seek other opportunities.  Why?  No one knows because nothing has been in the press so maybe that is the whole truth.  Anything else is pure speculation.
i thought "pursuing other opportunities" was almost always a euphemism for "fired", but you could be right...he could truly be "pursuing other opportunities" - if so, there is nothing more to the story than what we've read

or he could have been fired and he's "pursuing other opportunities" because the opportunity he really wants to pursue and was pursuing about 10 days ago (coaching lagrange football) is no longer an option...

i don't know coach mooney personally, but i do personally know a lot of current and former college coaches - i don't know a single one who would willingly walk away with 3 games left in the season
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 05, 2013, 04:29:22 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 05, 2013, 04:08:12 PM
Never heard of Silver Creek. Might have to give it a try.

Now you got me watching old tobacco commercials on youtube. I think my new hero is Walt Garrison. All I need now is a leather vest and a cowboy hat and I'll be set!

Walt was awesome!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 05, 2013, 06:44:24 PM
aint no wuz
Garrison is still kickin and still going to rodeo's (or was a few yrs back, and still has a small ranch in Denton county Tejas... i think near Argyle.

he once had cutting horses, as i recall, and we crossed paths

keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on November 05, 2013, 11:14:59 PM
Appreciate your comments Scots on the LaGrange situation.  Obviously I have a vested interest in the Panthers since my son plays on the offensive side of the ball for the past 3 years.  And yes, I know the Maryville situation well since my step-son played for Coach Ierulli and has always had a great amount of respect for the man.

I do know for a fact, that for over a year, athletic director Jennifer Claybrook and President McAlexander have both been waiting to find a time to axe Coach Mooney.  They were waiting for something to happen in practice, or with an assistant coach, or with a player to give them justification to make a change. 

What they fear was having success at the end of the season which would make it a PR disaster (like Maryville) by removing a popular coach.  Remember LaGrange was 3-2 going into the CNU game.  They beat Huntingdon (only conference loss) 2 weeks earlier and just lost by 2 points to Methodist.  LaGrange beat CNU last year by 20 points and with Ferrum & Averett following the Panther could easily finish up with 3 straight wins and a 6-2 overall conference record.  So that is why the change was made last week to give credit to any last season success to the new head coach.

Another point is that we are the only USA-South Team that is playing all USA-South opponents.  Everyone plays only 7 conference games, we play 8 conference games.  How did that happen Athletic Director Claybrook?

What is disappointing was this team was really growing this season and with the loss of only 7 seniors, so we are going to be loaded for a strong 2014 season.  I guess AD Claybrook forgot about loyalty when she asked Coach Mooney to help her become the AD 2 years ago.....

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 05, 2013, 11:46:41 PM
Quote from: PantherGuy on November 05, 2013, 11:14:59 PM
Appreciate your comments Scots on the LaGrange situation.  Obviously I have a vested interest in the Panthers since my son plays on the offensive side of the ball for the past 3 years.  And yes, I know the Maryville situation well since my step-son played for Coach Ierulli and has always had a great amount of respect for the man.

I do know for a fact, that for over a year, athletic director Jennifer Claybrook and President McAlexander have both been waiting to find a time to axe Coach Mooney.  They were waiting for something to happen in practice, or with an assistant coach, or with a player to give them justification to make a change. 

What they fear was having success at the end of the season which would make it a PR disaster (like Maryville) by removing a popular coach.  Remember LaGrange was 3-2 going into the CNU game.  They beat Huntingdon (only conference loss) 2 weeks earlier and just lost by 2 points to Methodist.  LaGrange beat CNU last year by 20 points and with Ferrum & Averett following the Panther could easily finish up with 3 straight wins and a 6-2 overall conference record.  So that is why the change was made last week to give credit to any last season success to the new head coach.

Another point is that we are the only USA-South Team that is playing all USA-South opponents.  Everyone plays only 7 conference games, we play 8 conference games.  How did that happen Athletic Director Claybrook?

What is disappointing was this team was really growing this season and with the loss of only 7 seniors, so we are going to be loaded for a strong 2014 season.  I guess AD Claybrook forgot about loyalty when she asked Coach Mooney to help her become the AD 2 years ago.....

Thank you for agreeing with me on the subject, as well as narch. Glad to see some common sense floating around here.

Quick thoughts:

1. I'm not 100% on this, but I think I heard that every team will be playing 8 conference games next year and only 2 OOC. MC played Sewanee the last 2 seasons, but on their website they have future schedules for the next several years without Maryville on them. Leads me to believe the 8 conference game schedule a little bit more. LaGrange may have been in a position in scheduling that it would have been easier just to play all 8 this year, and other teams decided to stick with the scheduling contracts. Looks like they play the same teams this year that they did last year, just the Huntingdon game is a conference game this year.

2. Only 7 seniors on this year's team? Lord have mercy on the rest of us next year. Talk about coming back loaded. Jeez.

3. Does Claybrook coach or just strictly an AD?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 05, 2013, 11:59:56 PM
PantherGuy,
Just looked it up. She does coach.

Wanna know something funny (even though you probably already know)?

MC's AD Schram also coaches.


Not trying to make this a gender thing, of course, just a striking coincidence.  I love women.  ;D
I wished finances and institutional budgets would allow more small colleges to have an Athletics Director whose solely responsibility was to director the athletics department, as a whole and not split time.

I'll send in my resume to both schools.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2013, 12:52:27 AM
Just a question for LaGrange.

You filled your schedule with 8 conference games.  Which D-3 would you have played in the 3rd OOC game and when?  (There are not that many choices of teams that would have chosen you instead of their current conference obligations.)

If you have one more win on the season than the other teams with equal conference losses, do you have an advantage by having the extra win for winning percentage sake?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 06, 2013, 01:19:25 AM
That's another good point. Not many d3s in the area. If I'm not mistaken they've had to play NAIA like shorter and point before, although shorter is now d2
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 06, 2013, 01:39:05 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2013, 12:52:27 AM
Just a question for LaGrange.

You filled your schedule with 8 conference games.  Which D-3 would you have played in the 3rd OOC game and when?  (There are not that many choices of teams that would have chosen you instead of their current conference obligations.)

If you have one more win on the season than the other teams with equal conference losses, do you have an advantage by having the extra win for winning percentage sake?

Someone had to play eight games. The math doesn't work otherwise!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 06, 2013, 02:01:18 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 06, 2013, 01:39:05 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2013, 12:52:27 AM
Just a question for LaGrange.

You filled your schedule with 8 conference games.  Which D-3 would you have played in the 3rd OOC game and when?  (There are not that many choices of teams that would have chosen you instead of their current conference obligations.)

If you have one more win on the season than the other teams with equal conference losses, do you have an advantage by having the extra win for winning percentage sake?

Someone had to play eight games. The math doesn't work otherwise!

I'll be the first to admit math isn't my thing. I can balance a checkbook and make change from a dollar pretty good, but other than that I try to stay far, far away. Thanks for clearing that up, Pat.

What time can we expect the regional rankings tomorrow/today?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2013, 11:31:16 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 06, 2013, 01:39:05 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2013, 12:52:27 AM
Just a question for LaGrange.

You filled your schedule with 8 conference games.  Which D-3 would you have played in the 3rd OOC game and when?  (There are not that many choices of teams that would have chosen you instead of their current conference obligations.)

If you have one more win on the season than the other teams with equal conference losses, do you have an advantage by having the extra win for winning percentage sake?

Someone had to play eight games. The math doesn't work otherwise!
Thanks, Pat.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on November 06, 2013, 11:40:13 AM
In response to Narch, Mooney's "pursuing other opportunities" statement was done in order to receive severance pay from LaGrange according to several athletic department personnel which I spoke to on Saturday.  As imagined, the athletic department is not very happy with their athletic director who was "one of them" just a couple of years ago.  I was told several instances when Mooney stood up for Jennifer Claybrook in player and staff complaints about her.....

I was also told she is planning to go after a couple other head coaches at LaGrange, but I won't divulge who they are. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on November 07, 2013, 08:46:08 AM
After finding out a few more things yesterday from someone in the athletic department, I'm nominating Scots13 to be the next AD at LaGrange....

Start updating your resume....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 07, 2013, 12:30:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 06, 2013, 01:39:05 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2013, 12:52:27 AM
Just a question for LaGrange.

You filled your schedule with 8 conference games.  Which D-3 would you have played in the 3rd OOC game and when?  (There are not that many choices of teams that would have chosen you instead of their current conference obligations.)

If you have one more win on the season than the other teams with equal conference losses, do you have an advantage by having the extra win for winning percentage sake?

Someone had to play eight games. The math doesn't work otherwise!
See my post 9972 on Oct. 21.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2013, 05:41:51 PM
Quote from: hasanova on November 07, 2013, 12:30:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 06, 2013, 01:39:05 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 06, 2013, 12:52:27 AM
Just a question for LaGrange.

You filled your schedule with 8 conference games.  Which D-3 would you have played in the 3rd OOC game and when?  (There are not that many choices of teams that would have chosen you instead of their current conference obligations.)

If you have one more win on the season than the other teams with equal conference losses, do you have an advantage by having the extra win for winning percentage sake?

Someone had to play eight games. The math doesn't work otherwise!
See my post 9972 on Oct. 21.  :)

Right, and Kickoff. But if you read the conversation, the point clearly needed to be repeated.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on November 09, 2013, 08:49:56 AM
Scots, during our game a couple of weeks ago, a couple of your fans told me that the NCAA may be looking into the eligiability of one of your linebackers, I think it is Wolfingbarger.  Seems like he played in 3 JV games in 2009 which counts as 1 year and has played in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013.  Have they concluded the investigation or is it still on-going.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on November 09, 2013, 08:51:49 AM
Looking forward to our game against Ferrum.  Things has settled down this week and hopefully we will be focused today.  Ferrum gives up a lot of points and hopefully our offense can get untracked this week.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 09, 2013, 08:56:07 AM
Quote from: PantherGuy on November 09, 2013, 08:51:49 AM
Looking forward to our game against Ferrum.  Things has settled down this week and hopefully we will be focused today.  Ferrum gives up a lot of points and hopefully our offense can get untracked this week.....
I'm going with the Panthers in this one.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 09, 2013, 09:16:02 AM
Quote from: PantherGuy on November 09, 2013, 08:49:56 AM
Scots, during our game a couple of weeks ago, a couple of your fans told me that the NCAA may be looking into the eligiability of one of your linebackers, I think it is Wolfingbarger.  Seems like he played in 3 JV games in 2009 which counts as 1 year and has played in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013.  Have they concluded the investigation or is it still on-going.....
mville must not be too worried...he has played every game this year - seems like they would hold him out if they thought his eligibility was in question
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 09, 2013, 04:10:25 PM
Hey Narch? That Methodist win over Guilford looks about right to me now. In fact, the way your boys are all over Huntingdon right now I can't believe you didn't beat the Quakers by more...  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 09, 2013, 04:20:41 PM
according to the huntingdon color guy, every route is a sit route :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 09, 2013, 04:26:08 PM
run clock, run
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 09, 2013, 04:30:18 PM
that should be offensive pass interference...bad call...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 09, 2013, 04:39:53 PM
mu should try a fg here, in my opinion...7 yards of field position not as important as putting the game out of reach with a make...good call, coach goss - 12 point lead with 38 seconds left...kick the ball out of bounds to avoid a return
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 09, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
why didn't the clock stop there? not that it would have mattered, but the huntingdon qb clearly went out of bounds...they should have had 13 seconds left there...is there a clock rule i'm not aware of?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 09, 2013, 04:46:53 PM
Quote from: narch on November 09, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
why didn't the clock stop there? not that it would have mattered, but the huntingdon qb clearly went out of bounds...they should have had 13 seconds left there...is there a clock rule i'm not aware of?
I think he got hit and went backwards to go out so his forward progress was in bounds. Should have just thrown the ball away instead of trying to run.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 09, 2013, 04:49:42 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 09, 2013, 04:46:53 PM
Quote from: narch on November 09, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
why didn't the clock stop there? not that it would have mattered, but the huntingdon qb clearly went out of bounds...they should have had 13 seconds left there...is there a clock rule i'm not aware of?
I think he got hit and went backwards to go out so his forward progress was in bounds.
hmm...i'm not displeased with the call :), but looked like he stepped out on my small screen

maryville took care of business...the only hope for the monarchs is that panther guy is right and maryville's leading tackler is ineligible :)

congrats to the scots for their ncaa birth...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 09, 2013, 04:51:55 PM
Quote from: narch on November 09, 2013, 09:16:02 AM
Quote from: PantherGuy on November 09, 2013, 08:49:56 AM
Scots, during our game a couple of weeks ago, a couple of your fans told me that the NCAA may be looking into the eligiability of one of your linebackers, I think it is Wolfingbarger.  Seems like he played in 3 JV games in 2009 which counts as 1 year and has played in 2010, 2011, 2012 and 2013.  Have they concluded the investigation or is it still on-going.....
mville must not be too worried...he has played every game this year - seems like they would hold him out if they thought his eligibility was in question

I think you may have to take what most fans say with a grain of salt. If there was an investigation, I would have heard about it through all the ties I still have with the players and a few of the assistants. We didn't even have 3 JV games that year-- we played U of Cumberlands (KY) twice, once early in the year and once later like week 8 or so. I think he's fine to play; Coach Rader or our SID would have gotten everything straight before he played.

As narch said, the athletic department would have held him out.



Side note: We need a new kicking game...2 blocked punts, 1 returned for a td, missed PAT and one blocked returned for a safety. Puts a damper on a 47-15 Senior Day win..


THANK YOU METHODIST!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 09, 2013, 04:53:42 PM
Quote from: narch on November 09, 2013, 04:49:42 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 09, 2013, 04:46:53 PM
Quote from: narch on November 09, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
why didn't the clock stop there? not that it would have mattered, but the huntingdon qb clearly went out of bounds...they should have had 13 seconds left there...is there a clock rule i'm not aware of?
I think he got hit and went backwards to go out so his forward progress was in bounds.
hmm...i'm not displeased with the call :), but looked like he stepped out on my small screen

maryville took care of business...the only hope for the monarchs is that panther guy is right and maryville's leading tackler is ineligible :)

congrats to the scots for their ncaa birth...
Yep, congrats to the Scots. All we can do now is try to put a little damper on their party next week and help get Methodist part of the trophy.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 09, 2013, 05:14:59 PM
I can't tell you how happy I am the MC played MU early in the year and after their loss to E&H. I think if we would have played them later in the year like around week 6 or 7, it may have been a different outcome.

If I had a vote, my front runner for Coach of the Year would be Goss going into the last week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 09, 2013, 05:19:48 PM
Ummm...8-0 TLU just lost to a 4-5 Hardin-Simmons 73-44.

TLU's out of the playoff race, so Maryville to UMHB?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 09, 2013, 05:34:24 PM
Congrats to the Fighting Scots... If TLU doesn't make the playoffs, I think the ODAC champ should be the team that gets shipped to Texas. Again, happy to see my Alma mater receive a playoff bid.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 09, 2013, 06:01:40 PM
Quote from: Highlander on November 09, 2013, 05:34:24 PM
Congrats to the Fighting Scots... If TLU doesn't make the playoffs, I think the ODAC champ should be the team that gets shipped to Texas. Again, happy to see my Alma mater receive a playoff bid.

That is somewhat likely. Maryville is much more likely to get shipped to an undefeated Millsaps as it would not require a flight. Millsaps squeaked out a win today. One more will probably guarantee them a host game. Maryville would be the most logical opponent by known criteria in maybe a 3-6 matchup or a 4-5. There are a lot of teams that could get shipped to UMHB if TLU doesn't make the field and the ODAC champ could easily end up in Alliance, in Baltimore, or even facing a team like Wittenberg. Since the brackets are not strictly regional, the options are plentiful in where to send a 6/7/8 type seed. I don't think anyone foresaw W&L going to Hobart last year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 09, 2013, 06:20:00 PM
Millsaps plays at Rhodes next week. I'd think that would be a toss up game.

DG, sorry, buddy. We'll have to get together some other time for those cokes. Not making the trip next week, saving gas for the playoff trip.  :o
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 09, 2013, 07:15:05 PM
Game write up was just loaded..Congrats to Dylan Wolfenbarger on tying the MC career tackles record today at 348 with Kyle Chewning.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 09, 2013, 09:41:40 PM
i knew reber was having a good day while watching the game, but until i saw the box score, i didn't realize just how good....

20-28 for 292 yards and 5 td's, 18 carries for 126 yards - 418 yards for the nation's leader in total yards

i think that this performance by the monarch signal caller may have cemented him as the offensive player of the year in the conference, and perhaps even a shot at all-region recognition
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 09, 2013, 09:50:21 PM
lagrange with just 10 points again today...20 points in 2 weeks - maybe coach mumme can't be the offensive genius and head coach at once
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 09, 2013, 10:26:08 PM
Long day working (just got in)...and bad news ...

Congrats to Methodist ... man sounds like they thumped us

Congrats to Murrval (that hurt to say), just hope we can hang with em next week

Scots.... next time at a Murval - Hawks game ... holler , i owe u a cola
Keep the faith and always Go Hawk
s
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2013, 09:16:58 AM
Quote from: narch on November 09, 2013, 09:41:40 PM
i knew reber was having a good day while watching the game, but until i saw the box score, i didn't realize just how good....

20-28 for 292 yards and 5 td's, 18 carries for 126 yards - 418 yards for the nation's leader in total yards

i think that this performance by the monarch signal caller may have cemented him as the offensive player of the year in the conference, and perhaps even a shot at all-region recognition

Would be a crime if he didn't get all-region honors!

Congrats Narch. Christmas came early for you this year. What a tremendous season for your boys! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2013, 09:22:20 AM
It is strange how things shape your mindset. CNU, with a win in the final game, can finish 8-2. That is exactly how I picked them. Every year in which they only won 6 games the next year they win 8. So, I predicted 8-2. That record also ties them for the best regular season record in team history. Yet, not making the playoffs will make it seem like a disappointing season.

I need to change that mindset. 8-2 is a tremendous season. We beat some teams nobody gave us a chance to win. We lost to the conference champs Maryville and an amazing surprise team (to me anyway) Methodist.

But first, gotta beat Ferrum. Or I will be here next week talking about ow 7-3 isn't too shabby.

I would vote For the Methodist coach for COY.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 10, 2013, 11:15:30 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 10, 2013, 09:22:20 AM
It is strange how things shape your mindset. CNU, with a win in the final game, can finish 8-2. That is exactly how I picked them. Every year in which they only won 6 games the next year they win 8. So, I predicted 8-2. That record also ties them for the best regular season record in team history. Yet, not making the playoffs will make it seem like a disappointing season.

I need to change that mindset. 8-2 is a tremendous season. We beat some teams nobody gave us a chance to win. We lost to the conference champs Maryville and an amazing surprise team (to me anyway) Methodist.

But first, gotta beat Ferrum. Or I will be here next week talking about ow 7-3 isn't too shabby.

I would vote For the Methodist coach for COY.

I agree. MU's Goss for COY. Would be a shame if he didn't get it after the "turn around' they had, although you really probably couldn't call it a true turn around. Goss and his boys had 2 rough hiccups then showed everyone why the deserve respect too. 

CNU is having a pretty good year too. 7-2, looking for 8-2, with a win over what might be a regional conference champ is nothing to look over.

Max Reber. No brainer for all region.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 10, 2013, 06:53:02 PM
I believe hell as officially frozen over. MC is ranked 24th in this week's poll. Excuse me while I go have a celebratory scotch and cigar...

But seriously, it is great to have some sort of recognition for this team's hard work and it's approach to the grind every day, but I pray to the good Lord above it doesn't go to their heads and gets them beat next week.

We've tied the second best second in school history at 8-1 with the 1978 team.
Beat HC and move to 9-1 and it'll be the best since 1946's Tangerine/Citrus/Capital One Bowl season.


I think I might go have a few scotch and waters and sing the fight song on the Hill, anyway. I don't think any one would stop me.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2013, 09:28:29 AM
the monarchs still have a lot to play for...a win vs. ncwc this weekend would give them the mythical NC state championship, along with an 8-2 record...a loss puts a bit of a damper on a great season - i hope the boys will come out hungry and ready to play and equal the 2nd best record in school history - jacques alston from ncwc scares the heck out of me...that dude can score from anywhere on the field

on an individual note, i have a question for anyone who might care to answer - i mentioned that i thought reber should get serious consideration for all-region honors...does he have any shot at all-american honors? he stretched what was already an almost 20 yard per game lead in total offense and is likely to finish atop those standings for the season, barring a horrible final game - he is among the national leaders in almost every passing category (yards, completion percentage, td's, efficiency rating, etc.) and has thrown just 6 interceptions on the season - he has also rushed for over 600 yards and 4 td's for a team that will be 7-3 or 8-2

i've never given much thought to all-america consideration for a monarch offensive player, but i think reber should be the first...

and perhaps vaughn cross should be the second...he will likely finish among the top 5 nationally in receiving td's and among the top 10 in most other major receiving categories
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 11, 2013, 11:36:09 AM
narch, congratulations to the Monarchs on a fine season.  I could tell they had something going this year when I watched them in Fayetteville on Sept 14.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 12:26:17 PM
Quote from: narch on November 11, 2013, 09:28:29 AM
the monarchs still have a lot to play for...a win vs. ncwc this weekend would give them the mythical NC state championship, along with an 8-2 record...a loss puts a bit of a damper on a great season - i hope the boys will come out hungry and ready to play and equal the 2nd best record in school history - jacques alston from ncwc scares the heck out of me...that dude can score from anywhere on the field

on an individual note, i have a question for anyone who might care to answer - i mentioned that i thought reber should get serious consideration for all-region honors...does he have any shot at all-american honors? he stretched what was already an almost 20 yard per game lead in total offense and is likely to finish atop those standings for the season, barring a horrible final game - he is among the national leaders in almost every passing category (yards, completion percentage, td's, efficiency rating, etc.) and has thrown just 6 interceptions on the season - he has also rushed for over 600 yards and 4 td's for a team that will be 7-3 or 8-2

i've never given much thought to all-america consideration for a monarch offensive player, but i think reber should be the first...

and perhaps vaughn cross should be the second...he will likely finish among the top 5 nationally in receiving td's and among the top 10 in most other major receiving categories

I'd give him All-American consideration, but I don't know if he'll get much from guys that matter. He may, don't get me wrong, but I just don't know if he's had enough national recognition this year. He's just a junior too. If he doesn't get any consideration this year, hopefully he'll stay healthy and in school and has an even better year in 2014.

He's fun to watch. Very deserving of all-region honors, and I hope he gets it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 11, 2013, 02:25:28 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 12:26:17 PM
Quote from: narch on November 11, 2013, 09:28:29 AM
the monarchs still have a lot to play for...a win vs. ncwc this weekend would give them the mythical NC state championship, along with an 8-2 record...a loss puts a bit of a damper on a great season - i hope the boys will come out hungry and ready to play and equal the 2nd best record in school history - jacques alston from ncwc scares the heck out of me...that dude can score from anywhere on the field

on an individual note, i have a question for anyone who might care to answer - i mentioned that i thought reber should get serious consideration for all-region honors...does he have any shot at all-american honors? he stretched what was already an almost 20 yard per game lead in total offense and is likely to finish atop those standings for the season, barring a horrible final game - he is among the national leaders in almost every passing category (yards, completion percentage, td's, efficiency rating, etc.) and has thrown just 6 interceptions on the season - he has also rushed for over 600 yards and 4 td's for a team that will be 7-3 or 8-2

i've never given much thought to all-america consideration for a monarch offensive player, but i think reber should be the first...

and perhaps vaughn cross should be the second...he will likely finish among the top 5 nationally in receiving td's and among the top 10 in most other major receiving categories

I'd give him All-American consideration, but I don't know if he'll get much from guys that matter. He may, don't get me wrong, but I just don't know if he's had enough national recognition this year. He's just a junior too. If he doesn't get any consideration this year, hopefully he'll stay healthy and in school and has an even better year in 2014.

He's fun to watch. Very deserving of all-region honors, and I hope he gets it.
He's just a junior? Crap!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 04:02:32 PM
I thought he was a senior earlier, but I checked the roster.  If he keeps a good chunk of his supporting cast, we're all screwed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 04:33:02 PM
This is going to sound petty, and I wish it didn't, but then again, I don't really care that it does. This has ticked me off all season. It seems to me there is a cycle of 5 teams that get nominated every week, BUT...

Who picks the PlayOTW for the conference?

MC is sitting at 8-1, at least a share of the title, and has the AQ. They've put up scores like 35, 47, 48, 30, 47 again, and 53 in conference play, and have not had a single play of the week nomination.  This week's has a Greensboro play. What?!? Granted it was a blocked punt for a 34-yd score, but they lost 47-15. They lost. Call me a little Tony Ierulli old school, but when you lose a game by 32, no accolades should be given. Of course, I'm not trying to take anything away from the GC player that made the play; it was a good play and showed that the Pride has pride throughout a game no matter the circumstance. It was not the player's fault they lost the game. GC went for it on 4th down 9 times. Made 4. That's how you lose a ball game by 32 and not have the other team gain 400 yards of total offense. They even went for it 4th and over 20 or so. WITH AN OPTION PLAY in the first quarter.

MC stripped a KOR and returned that for a TD in the first quarter to put them up 14-0 early. That's a similar type play on special teams that actually made a difference in the course of a conference game. Which is a surprise because our kicking game is severely lacking.

If not that play, how about the plethora of defensive plays they made. My God. They must have done something right. Throndset was limited to 113 yards and no TD a week after breaking all kinds of conference records.


Sorry for the ranting, but I had to get that off my chest. If anyone has an answer or comment, or wants to tell me to shove it, feel free.


***I'll add one more thing: I'm not taking offense with the teams that seem to be nominated every week. They make some pretty dang good plays. They should be proud of themselves for making big time plays.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 11, 2013, 04:38:53 PM
Scots13

Smell the roses. You are going to the playoffs for the first time in school history. Who gives a damn about the play of the week. You are going to give yourself an attack of over something nobody cares about. Chill and enjoy the 2013 season !!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 04:50:48 PM
TFA, you need an award for the nicest "shove it" statement in history.

You're right. I should be planning this playoff trip anyway.
I read a few minutes ago on yall's board about a possible ODAC champ coming down here ***if Huntingdon doesn't spoil week 11 for us***. I don't think that'll happen, but if it does and HSC wins The Game (and I'll be rooting for the hometown team this week) and the bid, if you've never been down in these parts, I suggest making a whole weekend affair out of it.  Maryville is just shy of heaven this time of year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 11, 2013, 05:25:37 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 04:50:48 PM
TFA, you need an award for the nicest "shove it" statement in history.

You're right. I should be planning this playoff trip anyway.
I read a few minutes ago on yall's board about a possible ODAC champ coming down here ***if Huntingdon doesn't spoil week 11 for us***. I don't think that'll happen, but if it does and HSC wins The Game (and I'll be rooting for the hometown team this week) and the bid, if you've never been down in these parts, I suggest making a whole weekend affair out of it.  Maryville is just shy of heaven this time of year.

Scots that was me and I would say that is bottom of the barrel unlikely, I was just making a case about how big a 500 mile circle is for the ODAC and some of the likely to extremely unlikely possibilities. I'd bet Maryville is either Millsaps or Belton bound, no one but Millsaps or the two ODAC possibilities are in the radius and it doesn't make sense to leave too many orphans floating around. Johns Hopkins comes up as 542 miles. But with the NCAA it is just too hard to tell.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 05:34:04 PM
I hope it's Millsaps and not UMHB. I think in this week's podcast it was thrown around that Redlands might make the trip to Belton.

JHU is 542 miles from Maryville?

What's the link to the NCAA distance list?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 11, 2013, 06:47:55 PM
Good luck 13.  :) I also sensed a tremor in the force when you went on your soliloquy.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 11, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 05:34:04 PM
I hope it's Millsaps and not UMHB. I think in this week's podcast it was thrown around that Redlands might make the trip to Belton.

JHU is 542 miles from Maryville?

What's the link to the NCAA distance list?

https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles

Here you go. Have fun. It's enough to drive you nuts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 11, 2013, 06:47:55 PM
Good luck 13.  :) I also sensed a tremor in the force when you went on your soliloquy.  ;)

Thank you. Hopefully there won't be any cause for tremors in the force during the first round. I at least hope we make it to the second round.

Quote from: jknezek on November 11, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 05:34:04 PM
I hope it's Millsaps and not UMHB. I think in this week's podcast it was thrown around that Redlands might make the trip to Belton.

JHU is 542 miles from Maryville?

What's the link to the NCAA distance list?

https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles

Here you go. Have fun. It's enough to drive you nuts.

It's 7:20 and pitch black outside. Can't hone my lumberjacking skills so I need something to drive me nuts/have fun with.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2013, 10:10:01 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 04:33:02 PM
Who picks the PlayOTW for the conference?
if you are asking who chooses the plays to be voted upon, i think it's the athletic department at the respective school...if you are asking who chooses the best of those plays...it's voted on by fans

that said, i'm disappointed that there were no  monarch highlights...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 10:34:58 PM
I had a feeling athletic departments at each school sent in a play, but someone has to make the call on which 3 make the final cut.  At any rate, TigerFan has shown me the error of my ways. He's right; it's doesn't really matter. I was brash. Should've not said anything about it.

But speaking of plays of the week, I came across this nice little memory (at least for my guys  ;)) the other day. It was the d3football POTW and really started the recent rivalry with MU, at least the years I was there and this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nipX8czNwk
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2013, 10:54:02 PM
ncaa statistics were updated this afternoon...a few observations about qb statistics

reber ranks #1 in total yards, eclipsing the #2 qb by more than 35 yards per game

reber is 4th in passing yardage, yet has fewer attempts than every other qb in the top 12...by far, in most cases

reber's 25 td tosses rank 10th nationally, as does his pass efficiency rating

reber ranks 17th nationally in points responsible for

reber's 606 rushing yards rank 21st nationally among qb's

i looked at the 4 qb's named d3football.com all-americans last year, and they all had something in common...each of them played more than 10 games, meaning they all led their teams to the playoffs - 2 played 14 games, 1 played 15 games and the other played 12

reber's per game numbers compare well with each of these qb's, though...his pass yardage/game is higher (by far) than all 4, his rush yards/game is 2nd among this group, his total yards/game is 83 yards per game than the next best and his total td's per game is first among the group - i realize that some of these guys played portions of many games as their teams rested them in the 4th quarter of blowouts, but i'm thinking that reber might have an outside shot at being a 4th teamer...maybe...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 11, 2013, 11:05:27 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 11, 2013, 10:34:58 PM
I had a feeling athletic departments at each school sent in a play, but someone has to make the call on which 3 make the final cut.  At any rate, TigerFan has shown me the error of my ways. He's right; it's doesn't really matter. I was brash. Should've not said anything about it.

But speaking of plays of the week, I came across this nice little memory (at least for my guys  ;)) the other day. It was the d3football POTW and really started the recent rivalry with MU, at least the years I was there and this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nipX8czNwk
i don't think you're wrong to want your team to get a little love...

two things really bother me about that play...#1, what the hell was that db thinking trying to take the ball out? #2, that wasn't pass interference :)

...worst part...that was a 2 point loss by the monarchs

recent mu/m'ville history....

2009 36-30 m'ville, 4 ot
2010 17-14 mu
2011 26-24 m'ville
2012 28-24 m'ville
2013 35-26 m'ville

18 points separating the two teams over a 5 year period...it's as good a rivalry as any in the usasac, in my opinion, but mu needs to win a few more :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 12, 2013, 12:21:48 AM
After Huntingdon just because that's where Coach Rader is from and OL Coach Bailey played there, MU is the next game we circle on the schedule.  Of course being in the same conference longer leads the MC/MU to be a deeper rivalry, and the fact there's an 18 pt separation over the last 5 years makes it truer than true, I guess you can say.

All I can tell you is, better luck next year. And I hope I say that next season too  ;D

But will it be hard!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 12, 2013, 10:26:30 PM
Scots13, I guess all I've got to say is it's called "Play" of the Week, not "Game" of the Week.  In my mind, you can have the best "Play" of the Week and still lose.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 12, 2013, 10:53:37 PM
That's true.
But that wasn't even the best play they had, to be completely honest. The blocked PAT return where the guy had to drive at the pylon to score was a lot more impressive.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: batteredbard on November 14, 2013, 12:28:07 AM
If I'd been picking, the blocked PAT return by Greensboro would have been a much better nominee. But then that might have gotten awkward seeing how it ended and how far back up the sideline the official was when he signalled the return was good for 2 points. Still it was one heck of a return and one heck of a chase scene to the pylon the last 20 yards.

I think Pat cleared this up already, but yes next two seasons are an 8-game conference schedule. My understanding is that if CNU then departs it would go back to 7, provided that no one else is added and that no current full members, currently without it, start football.

Isn't it ironic that MU has first unsettled then settled things in the standings in consecutive years to Maryville's benefit? I can't remember these two ever having an easy game against each other, the scoreboard has been deceptive a couple times on how close things were. I don't see that changing anytime soon but I could see the implications being more recognized earlier. It would be a longshot but if there was a mood for a darkhorse Pool C in the committee room, I'd really like to see Reber abuse someone out of conference with a full cranked up offense and not one still coming together the first few weeks.

After reading Keith's column and looking at regional rankings, I think Maryville's best interest is to pull for Millsaps and give the committee an obvious pairing in Miss. The Johns Hopkins thing is just odd enough to work though I wish I knew how coach Dunlevy as a Va. guy views I-81 — curse or cruise.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 14, 2013, 02:04:21 AM
Millsaps plays at Rhodes this weekend. I think it'll be a good game. If they happen to lose and Thomas More doesn't get the PAC AQ but W&J does, I wonder if that is enough for Maryville to get a 4 seed in South?

So can Maryville jump Millsaps if Rhodes wins, and where does TMC fit in without the AQ?

This weeks RR's:
1. UMHB
2. JHU
3. Millsaps
4. Wesley
5. Thomas More
6. Maryville
7. TLU
8. Wash. U.
9. HSC
10.W&J
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 14, 2013, 08:44:41 AM
With an SOS of 188, which should improve after this weekend, Maryville has a very, very small shot at hosting. Bordering on non-existent unless they committee really decides to limit flights by sending Millsaps to UMHB and the ODAC champion to Maryville. I would think Millsaps losing would make that more possible. The thing to remember is there won't necessarily be 4 South teams hosting. The brackets just aren't that regional anymore.

Not sure how Maryville could go to JHU without a flight, TES shows 542 miles.

As for Methodist, they don't have a prayer of making the tournament. They aren't regionally ranked and while they could slip into the final rankings somewhere near the bottom, they won't jump TMC, TLU, or Wash U provided any of them win their final game. There are 4 basic locks for C spots and one toss up that COULD go to the South team up for discussion. That toss up won't get Methodist on the table from the South, so they won't be discussed as a possibility against whoever is left.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 14, 2013, 11:47:30 AM
FWIW -- TMC and W&J will also be within 500 miles of Maryville. So ODAC champ, PAC Champ/runner up, and Millsaps. I checked Leb Valley, Wesley, JHU are all out of bus range. Also Franklin, Wabash and Wittenberg oddly enough are within range
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 14, 2013, 11:51:49 AM
If Methodist were to sneak into the final regional rankings it would give Maryville a win over RRO and if things fell right could help to host a 1st round game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 14, 2013, 12:43:05 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 14, 2013, 11:47:30 AM
FWIW -- TMC and W&J will also be within 500 miles of Maryville. So ODAC champ, PAC Champ/runner up, and Millsaps. I checked Leb Valley, Wesley, JHU are all out of bus range. Also Franklin, Wabash and Wittenberg oddly enough are within range

Just looking at google maps, it looks like Franklin, Wabash, and Wittenberg are safely in the range, and are basically due north.

To get a sense of just how far a "straight" 500 miles and to waste time, I got directions from campus to Toledo. All but 20 miles is on I-75 and is still in the range.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2013, 02:10:34 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 14, 2013, 11:51:49 AM
If Methodist were to sneak into the final regional rankings it would give Maryville a win over RRO and if things fell right could help to host a 1st round game.
that would be a really long sneak...at least 8 yards :)

i guess in theory it could happen, though...

w&j has a tough game against waynesburg...if waynesburg wins, i'm not sure they jump mu based on sos (ranked 225 vs. mu at 60) but perhaps they [waynesburg] do based on a win vs. a regionally ranked opponent - if w&j loses and mu is currently 11th (unknown), i could see mu getting w&j's 10th spot in the regional rankings, but just as easily i could see waynesburg getting w&j's spot

hsc is ranked 9th, and a loss would move them out of the rankings, but could move rmc into the rankings...macon's sos is currently 55th best, but will move up in relation to mu - mu and rmc are both 2-1 vs. common opponents, but rmc would then have a win vs. a regionally ranked opponent, as well - i think the winner of that game would be ahead of mu in regional rankings

the bigger question in my mind is why is hsc currently ranked ahead of mu and rmc? mu has a higher sos (60 vs. 98) and both are 3-1 vs. common opponents...perhaps the svu game (below) is impacting this, giving mu a .750 win% vs. hsc's .777 win% - perhaps mu's loss to ehc is hurting more than hsc's loss to cnu, and i get that - macon has a bigger beef, as they are #55 in sos, and have an identical record vs. common opponents - rmc has played a much tougher schedule, has the same overall record and has the same record vs. common opponents, yet is ranked behind hsc? doesn't make sense to me...

wash u has a good sos (ranked 36th, and may go higher) and is playing a game they are likely to win - i don't see mu leapfrogging them

tlu is unlikely to lose to howard payne, but i would have said the same thing about their game last week at hardin-simmons (4-5), who beat them badly (73-44) - tlu has a sos rank of 214...it would be interesting to see if mu gets into the rankings if tlu falls out

...perhaps if tlu AND w&j lose AND mu wins the monarchs have an outside shot of being regionally ranked...perhaps

i didn't realize that southern va was still provisional in d3...it's a bummer that the win vs. svu doesn't count for the monarchs regional record and the svu record doesn't count in mu's owp or oowp (the owp would help - svu is likely to be 3-2 (including the loss to mu) vs. d3 competition - while the oowp would probably hurt...) - a 7-2 record right now would look better than the 6-2 record does

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 14, 2013, 02:23:54 PM
narch, I've been meaning to ask you...is Reber in your banner thingamabob?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2013, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 14, 2013, 02:23:54 PM
narch, I've been meaning to ask you...is Reber in your banner thingamabob?
yup :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 14, 2013, 02:33:51 PM
Ok. You win the 2013 USAC Super Fan of the Year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2013, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 14, 2013, 02:33:51 PM
Ok. You win the 2013 USAC Super Fan of the Year.
it was there in 2012, too...can i get that award posthumously
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 14, 2013, 02:44:43 PM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2013, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 14, 2013, 02:33:51 PM
Ok. You win the 2013 USAC Super Fan of the Year.
it was there in 2012, too...can i get that award posthumously

That depends, are you now or soon planning to be dead? You might be able to get it retroactively, but I'm assuming you don't really want it posthumously any time soon.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2013, 02:55:02 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 14, 2013, 02:44:43 PM
That depends, are you now or soon planning to be dead? You might be able to get it retroactively, but I'm assuming you don't really want it posthumously any time soon.
the 2012 season is dead :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 14, 2013, 02:57:42 PM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2013, 02:55:02 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 14, 2013, 02:44:43 PM
That depends, are you now or soon planning to be dead? You might be able to get it retroactively, but I'm assuming you don't really want it posthumously any time soon.
the 2012 season is dead :)

I can see both sides of this.
How about we call it the Pinnacle Fan Award. If the CMA can give Taylor Swift a country pinnacle award, then we can give you a pinnacle award too.
Taylor Swift is more pop than Sun Drop. But that's another rant.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2013, 03:01:18 PM
i'd like the 2012 super fan of the year award when i die...not before then - you will know i'm dead when i stop posting on these boards :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 14, 2013, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2013, 03:01:18 PM
i'd like the 2012 super fan of the year award when i die...not before then - you will know i'm dead when i stop posting on these boards :)

I don't want to hurry you along, but at the risk of giving you a heart attack I did include Methodist this week in my SRFP top 10. Well deserved after beating Huntingdon
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 14, 2013, 03:03:57 PM
If there is a 3 day inactive period between posts we'll send a search party and file a missing person's report.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 14, 2013, 03:08:51 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 14, 2013, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: narch on November 14, 2013, 03:01:18 PM
i'd like the 2012 super fan of the year award when i die...not before then - you will know i'm dead when i stop posting on these boards :)

I don't want to hurry you along, but at the risk of giving you a heart attack I did include Methodist this week in my SRFP top 10. Well deserved after beating Huntingdon

Methodist has been earnin' and burnin', snappin' necks and cashin' checks for the last 6 weeks or so.

Does MU have a good core coming back next year?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 14, 2013, 10:54:54 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 14, 2013, 03:08:51 PM
Does MU have a good core coming back next year?
yes...

Monarch Depth chart:
QB: Reber, JR; Vann, JR

RB: Page, SO; Papillion, So; Hall, FR; Shuler, FR

HYBRID (FB, TE, WR): Brayboy, JR

WR: Cross, SR; Scott, SR; Jacobs, JR; Radke, SO; Watkins, SO

OL: Borden, FR; Kinder, SO; Sparrow, FR; Adams, SO; Edge, SO

S: Davis, Letovis SO; Payne, SO

CB: Mitchell, JR; Lambert, FR; Blackshell, FR, Freeman, FR

LB: Holden, SR; Jones, Antjuan SR; Davis, Andrew SR; Thomas, JR; Johnson, SO; Colburn, FR
*Leading tackler from 2012, Bryan Bing, hasn't played this year and should be back next year with 2 years of eligibility remaining

DL: Fulmore, SR; June, SR; Minter, JR; Atkinson, JR; Jones, Mike, SO

K: Ausherman, JR

7 total seniors in the regular rotation...cross will be the biggest loss...holden flies around on defense...fulmore is HUGE, and will be tough to replace (he will, literally, be the biggest loss) :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 14, 2013, 11:36:59 PM
Good Lord. You might have a lot to cheer about next year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 15, 2013, 11:47:09 AM
Hawks

i was gonna go tomorrow, but my bride just rerminded me we have my Mom's 80th birthday party to go to in marietta.
My younger (and little sister) and younger (but not littler brother) changed the date to acomadate Church availibility for the party

I hope to get to be 80yrs of age (in 20 yrs for me) and hope i am in as good a shape as Mom.

anyway, im gonna miss the game. if you walk toward the evil murrrvul folk after the game is over, please tell Coach Rader and Phillip Bailey that I said hello. They both about as good as good can get.

yall have fun, keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 15, 2013, 01:29:27 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 15, 2013, 11:47:09 AM
Hawks

i was gonna go tomorrow, but my bride just rerminded me we have my Mom's 80th birthday party to go to in marietta.
My younger (and little sister) and younger (but not littler brother) changed the date to acomadate Church availibility for the party

I hope to get to be 80yrs of age (in 20 yrs for me) and hope i am in as good a shape as Mom.

anyway, im gonna miss the game. if you walk toward the evil murrrvul folk after the game is over, please tell Coach Rader and Phillip Bailey that I said hello. They both about as good as good can get.

yall have fun, keep the faith
Go Hawks
DGP,
If I make it anywhere near 80 it will be a miracle, 30+ years away and already having stuff replaced and all. ;)
Hate that you will miss the game. I missed my first home game in 5 years last week so barring any major emergencies I'm not missing this one. I will try to touch base with our former Hawks on the other side.
Be safe in your travels.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 15, 2013, 02:20:25 PM
It's rivalry week in DIII and with all this talk about Monon Bell and Game Ball trophies, I think it's high time MC and HC get a trophy for the game. We've played every year but yall's first, and seeing how most Tennesseans "don't give a damn about the whole state of Alabama" (if you don't know what I mean youtube Peyton Manning locker room celebration at Alabama 1995), something needs to concrete this thing in the books.

MC is affiliated with the Presbyterian Church and HC is Methodist. I think we should find something that symbolizes bad blood (if any) between the PCUS and UMC and make it a trophy. Something unique.

Hawks, DG..what do you fellas think? 


and DG, be safe on the highway and enjoy your trip.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 15, 2013, 03:25:02 PM
How about a cannon? Was it '09 or '11, the game was at MC, don't remember which year, but near the end of the game someone from HC managed to get to MC's cannon and fire it. Though I'm sure a lot of people weren't too happy about it and probably wouldn't want a trophy in honor of the moment.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 15, 2013, 03:34:15 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 15, 2013, 03:25:02 PM
How about a cannon? Was it '09 or '11, the game was at MC, don't remember which year, but near the end of the game someone from HC managed to get to MC's cannon and fire it. Though I'm sure a lot of people weren't too happy about it and probably wouldn't want a trophy in honor of the moment.

I think it may have been '09. But I like that idea. After the '11 season a lot of equipment was stolen out of the equipment room including the cannon.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 15, 2013, 04:24:40 PM
You Alabama guys need to get your local media on your side a little more. Surprised to see this at the end of the article..

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2013311150013

I thought I read during the summer or early in the season that Coach Turk would self inflict a one game suspension in conjunction with vacated win. If that is the case, has he done that yet?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 15, 2013, 04:27:57 PM
Yep. He sat out the Miss College game.

I saw that article too. :(

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 15, 2013, 04:39:43 PM
i read the article.... i fear it might be right on, i wish i could see the game, but Momma turns 80 once

i wish we could get some sort of trophy between us, thats a great idea

yall be safe, keep warm
Go Hawks and whip them hillbillies from Murrvul  (sorry...i couldnt help it)

keep the faith yall
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 15, 2013, 05:10:03 PM
The Maryville/Alcoa Daily Times does an outstanding job on Saturday morning issues on gamedays, but unfortunately for us they don't post it online in full until a few days afterwards. If I get a wild hair in the morning I might write the notes on Huntingdon on here for you fellas to read. Marcus Fitzsimmons does one hell of a job all weekend for MC and usually goes to all the road games too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 15, 2013, 05:12:44 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 15, 2013, 04:39:43 PM
i read the article.... i fear it might be right on, i wish i could see the game, but Momma turns 80 once

i wish we could get some sort of trophy between us, thats a great idea

yall be safe, keep warm
Go Hawks and whip them hillbillies from Murrvul  (sorry...i couldnt help it)

keep the faith yall

We wear the hillbilly moniker with pride around these parts. Just a bunch of shine drinkin', tabacca spittin', football lovin' folks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2013, 05:22:44 PM
I hope coach goss has the boys ready to play tomorrow - overlooking NCWC and taking a loss would put a serious damper on the season
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on November 15, 2013, 05:49:15 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 15, 2013, 04:39:43 PM

i wish we could get some sort of trophy between us, thats a great idea

keep the faith yall

Hope you don't mind a (probably dumb) suggestion from an outsider. How about a hawk-shaped trophy, but instead of natural coloration it's done up in some sort of Scottish tartan? That way there's a nod to both teams.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 16, 2013, 10:18:44 AM
Good luck today Fighting Scots... Win the title outright. Tough battle against an always very good Hawks team
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 16, 2013, 02:27:07 PM
mu losing 34-27 at half...reber out w injury...vann vs his old team...defense needs to step up

on the bright side, its a beautiful day for football
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 16, 2013, 03:27:26 PM
24 all in Montgomery at half. It's an offensive shootout with little defensive to speak of.

MC has 301 total yards and HC has 278 with most of the yards for both teams being on the ground.

What's with the whales in the endzone??
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on November 16, 2013, 04:16:42 PM
Great win by LC today...37-9...in last three games the Defense only allowed 16, 10, and 9...future looks great for the LC Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on November 16, 2013, 04:55:25 PM
Way to go Hawks...good win
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 16, 2013, 04:55:53 PM
Excuse me while I go find a hole to crawl in to die.
Great game, just not the finish to the season we needed. 8-2 is still pretty good way to end the year.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 16, 2013, 06:10:14 PM
I'm just glad that guy tripped on the lateral play.
Good luck next week,  MC.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 16, 2013, 06:21:06 PM
It was a good thing I was standing in the middle of a room with no wall close by. I'd be having to fix the dry wall right now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 16, 2013, 06:40:26 PM
Scots
good luck in the play offs

i hate i missed it, sounds like a real good Offensive game

i cant believe i am really pulling  for Murrval in the playoffs

keep the faith yall

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 16, 2013, 08:13:06 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 16, 2013, 03:27:26 PM


What's with the whales in the endzone??
As I understand it, the first week of class during the fraternity rush week one of the officers of one of the fraternities got into some kind of trouble and was put on probation or something. His name is William so at the first home game they had a couple of whales and were saying "Free Willie." As the season has gone on they bought up every whale that they can find until they have the twenty-something that you saw today.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 16, 2013, 08:52:55 PM
NARCHINGTON
Dude what a big game and a loss of a ticket punch to the show. Dude i cannot say i feel your pain but i know it sucks.  :( Those Scots were probley drunk....again....which is Scots13's proclivity and their ilk ;) :-X
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 16, 2013, 09:02:17 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 16, 2013, 08:52:55 PM
NARCHINGTON
Dude what a big game and a loss of a ticket punch to the show. Dude i cannot say i feel your pain but i know it sucks.  :( Those Scots were probley drunk....again....which is Scots13's proclivity and their ilk ;) :-X

I crawled out my pity hole and found my way to a local supplier of liquid intoxicants. Hopefully I'll forget about this loss in a few minutes and find a tall blonde to dance with. That might help me feel better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: @d3jason on November 16, 2013, 09:08:23 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 16, 2013, 08:13:06 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 16, 2013, 03:27:26 PM


What's with the whales in the endzone??
As I understand it, the first week of class during the fraternity rush week one of the officers of one of the fraternities got into some kind of trouble and was put on probation or something. His name is William so at the first home game they had a couple of whales and were saying "Free Willie." As the season has gone on they bought up every whale that they can find until they have the twenty-something that you saw today.
Watched the end of this game in the press box at Wesley and have to say I loved the Orca celebration at the end of the game. Classic!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 16, 2013, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 16, 2013, 08:52:55 PM
NARCHINGTON
Dude what a big game and a loss of a ticket punch to the show. Dude i cannot say i feel your pain but i know it sucks.  :( Those Scots were probley drunk....again....which is Scots13's proclivity and their ilk ;) :-X
abnrgr - it is certainly bitter-sweet...on one hand, 8-2 is really nice, on the other hand it is disappointing that this team doesn't have another game - i'm not sure there are many teams that can stop the mu offense with the way they are playing right now - of course, i'm not sure the mu defense can stop anyone either :)

the value of a good back up qb and a strong running game was shown today...reber went out around 5 mintes into the second quarter after going 7-10 for 127 and a td to go with 7 rushes for 38 yards - vann came on and the offense looked stagnant for a few series...then the second half came around, and vann finished 21-30 for 295 and 4 td's while darius page went nuts, running for 157 yards and catching passes for another 111 - marquies hall had a nice day running it, as well, with 16 carries for 75 yards and 3 td's - all told, the monarchs ran 101 plays for 673 yards...and they needed every one - i was afraid this  might be a "trap" game for mu - ncwc had a week off to prepare for mu, and they came to play today - alston is a stud, and the bishop starting qb is a nice player (of course, everyone looks good against the mu defense) - the bishops are young and talented...much better than their record indicates

lastly, hats off to all of the seniors - i'm glad those guys got to end their career with a win - vaughn cross caught 6 balls for 89 yards and 3 td's and blake scott scored the game winner on a catch and run that showed the kind of effort he has put in for the last 4 years - cross finishes as the first mu receiver with over 1000 yards and hauled in 18 td's on the season

it was a great year...still, i wish there was at least one more game left to play

scots...go get the conference a playoff win!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 17, 2013, 09:28:33 PM
Congratulations! Playoffs are so much fun. See you soon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laz2ymBq2K0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laz2ymBq2K0)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2013, 10:03:11 PM
what a great first round match-up for m'ville...the usasac has a great chance to get a win with this pairing...of course, i'm sure the odac reps feel the same way :)

go get 'em, scots...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 17, 2013, 10:38:26 PM
Go Murrvul
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 17, 2013, 11:44:26 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 17, 2013, 10:38:26 PM
Go Murrvul
I just wanted to keep this for permanent record.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2013, 08:39:07 AM
Narch...congrats to your boys on a great season. And it sounds like you will stay loaded for next year!

Scots13 - Go get 'em! HSC can be beat! Are you going to the game? I would except we have family in town for an early Thanksgiving!

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 11:08:48 AM
I'm still a little shocked at the pairing. I always wanted to play against HSC because they were the hometown team. Oh well, I'll tailgate instead.

Definitely going to the game. My parents were planning to come down here for Thanksgiving (tons of family in the area), but now I can go to the game and see my grandmother in VA and not have to hear about it for a year. It's a win-win, but I'd like it to be a win-win-win.  ;)

Quote from: DGPugh on November 17, 2013, 10:38:26 PM
Go Murrvul

Finally, you're coming around to see the light..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on November 18, 2013, 12:40:40 PM
Congrats for LaGrange winning the last 2 games of the season to finish up 5-5 and a 5-3 conference record.  Played outstanding against Averett and loved the big hit of the week.  Lots of experience coming back next year.

Many parents and fans appreciate the players chanting out "Mooney's" name after the win.  This was STILL his team.  I should always be proud what he accomplished at LaGrange and many hope the AD and Prez (names I won't even mention) days are numbered......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 01:18:31 PM
After a somewhat rocky start to the season, I glad to see some pretty good finally records for the conference this year.
MC 8-2
MU 8-2
CNU 8-2
HC 7-3
and LaGrange was just off by a small margin to have an over .500 year.

We as a conference need to do better OOC before we duke it out during conference play..that shouldn't have to be said.  However with it being said, and many of our teams playing ODAC teams, next year's OOC record starts this weekend at H-SC.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 18, 2013, 01:53:09 PM
with regard to the odac/usasac match-ups, while the odac went 9-4 vs. the usasac in the regular season, it should be pointed out that when the top half of the odac squared off against the top half of the usasac, the results were a bit different:

hsc went 0-1 vs. top half usasac teams (cnu)
rmc went 0-0 vs. top half usasac teams
guilford went 0-1 vs. top half usasac teams (mu)
shenandoah (tied for 4th in the odac, but wins the tie-breaker by virtue of the victory over hsc) went 0-1 vs. top half usasac teams (cnu)

so teams in the top half of the odac were 0-3 vs. teams in the top half of the usasac and just 4-3 vs. the usasac overall (hsc 1-1, rmc 1-0, gc 1-2, su 1-1)...the top half of the usasac was 3-2 vs. the odac (m'ville 0-1, mu 1-1, cnu 2-0)

the odac made hay because ehc went 3-0 vs. the usasac (still amazed ehc didn't fare better in the odac...that team looked REALLY good against mu) and the odac teams beat up on averett (1-2 vs. odac), ferrum (0-3 vs. odac) and greensboro (0-2 vs. odac) - 7 of the 9 odac wins came against usasac teams that had a combined overall winning % of .167 (5-25) and a combined conference winning % of .143 (3-18...with all wins coming against other bottom half teams) while 3 of the 4 usasac wins came against teams in the top half of the odac who had a combined winning % of .625 (25-15)...the fourth usasac win came from a team that went 0-7 in the conference, but went 1-2 vs. the top half of the odac

if you wanted to say the odac was deeper than the usasac this year, you would be right...if you wanted to extrapolate that to mean the odac was better, as a whole, than the usasac this year, i won't argue, but i think there is empirical evidence that the top half of the usasac was better than the top half of the odac during the regular season (with an admittedly small sample size) - let's hope that trend continues in the post season!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 02:18:01 PM
Finally got my hands on today's paper and a good portion of the article talks about the USAC and ODAC playing one another and the fact that MC was an ODAC team in the 80s.  In a first round match up were the teams have 3 common opponents, it's not going to be hard to scout one another. As Coach Rader said, "Everyone is kind of familiar with everyone."

Another quote in the Daily Times of Coach Rader:
"What I do know about Hampden-Sydney is it's a very well coached team. The head coach up there, Marty Favret, does a great job with an historic program.  We are excited about the opportunity to play them."

Just do me a favor this week during your bedtime prayers...
Slip in "On Highlanders, down the field." at the end.

DG, if you want to recite the whole fight song, I'll be more than happy to oblige and post it.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 18, 2013, 03:30:48 PM
Scots.... u are pushing the inside of the envelope a bit ;)
hope yall win..uh.... this weekened (and the next...and on and on in 2013.

keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 03:35:33 PM
If you want to say "On USA South, Down the Field" I'll take that too. It's all the same now.  8-)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 03:37:15 PM
That one just made me a starter. First time since high school. Feels good.

any special perks of being a starter, other than women swarming over us?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 18, 2013, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 03:37:15 PM
That one just made me a starter. First time since high school. Feels good.

any special perks of being a starter, other than women swarming over us?

You can now give or take Karma I think. Check if you have the applaud/smite option on other posts.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 03:59:01 PM
Yep. It's there. Been wanting to say this for a while......

+1, coming your way.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 18, 2013, 04:14:48 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 03:59:01 PM
Yep. It's there. Been wanting to say this for a while......

+1, coming your way.

Thanks. Enjoy the new status, and stick around for a while once your Scots are eliminated Saturday...  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
I'll be around for at least the next two weeks. I have to give my two cents on Maryville's second round game out West...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 18, 2013, 04:30:46 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 04:22:13 PM
I'll be around for at least the next two weeks. I have to give my two cents on Maryville's second round game out West...

Eh, just mosey on over to the ODAC boards Saturday night and we'll fill you in on how HSC is going to enjoy the long flight!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 18, 2013, 06:26:26 PM
QuoteI have to give my two cents on Maryville's second round game out West...


I gave you one for that. DON'T forget, it's WAY out west
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 06:58:48 PM
I'm guessing it's about 2600 miles from Tennessee to Oregon, but at least we're 5 miles away from the Knoxville airport.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 18, 2013, 07:12:33 PM
"Thanks. Enjoy the new status, and stick around for a while once your Scots are eliminated Saturday"  ;D

closest thing to a smack down i have heard/read on this board in 7 yrs ;)

that is what i love about this board (well one of the many things)  jknezek's fun barb to Scots is about as nasty as it ever gets amongst the regulars

jknezek i gots to pull for Murrvul (remember normal people would pronounce that school Mary - veal   :D

yall have fun, keep the faith



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 07:21:13 PM
Only Yankees and yuppies say Mary-veal. We prefer to speak English here in Blount County.

If no one else will say it, I'll say it..
DG, you're perfectly normal. Even though you're a Huntingdon guy.  ;) 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 18, 2013, 07:46:25 PM
Scots... keep the faith buddy  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2013, 08:12:43 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 18, 2013, 04:14:48 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 03:59:01 PM
Yep. It's there. Been wanting to say this for a while......

+1, coming your way.

Thanks. Enjoy the new status,...  ;D
Plus 1!  Enjoy the Karma!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 18, 2013, 08:14:17 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 18, 2013, 07:46:25 PM
Scots... keep the faith buddy  :)
Enjoy the karma DGPugh!  You have been a man of few words posts which has postponed your getting karma status.

+1, good friend!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 08:17:32 PM
With great power comes great responsibility, or so they say. It's a pretty good feeling knowing I've been entrusted with the power to smite. Guess I've made it to the big leagues, and now it looks like my Alabama buddy DG has the power too.

Watch out, fellas. Smites are coming!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 18, 2013, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 18, 2013, 07:12:33 PM
closest thing to a smack down i have heard/read on this board in 7 yrs ;)

that is what i love about this board (well one of the many things)  jknezek's fun barb to Scots is about as nasty as it ever gets amongst the regulars



That's about as nasty as I try to get. And Scots is being a good sport giving it back.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 18, 2013, 09:29:26 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 18, 2013, 09:16:37 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 18, 2013, 07:12:33 PM
closest thing to a smack down i have heard/read on this board in 7 yrs ;)

that is what i love about this board (well one of the many things)  jknezek's fun barb to Scots is about as nasty as it ever gets amongst the regulars



That's about as nasty as I try to get. And Scots is being a good sport giving it back.

You don't have to worry about me getting nasty about the game on here. I'm letting all my H-SC buddies back home have all the nasty stuff.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on November 19, 2013, 01:33:21 PM
Just to follow up on my earlier post, my step-son played at Maryville from 2008-2011 and played on the JV team his first 2 years.  He played in 3 JV games as a freshman.  During his sophomore year, 2009 Maryville played 2 JV games against University of the Cumberlands.  In Division-3, there is no red-shirting unless it is a medical redshirt.

Without a doubt, LB Dylan Wolfbarger played in those JV games which counts as 1 year of eligibility. My step-son played along side of him during those games. Looking at the MC's media guides, Wolfbarger is listed as a freshman in 2009, a sophomore in 2010, and a junior in 2011.  He was a backup as a sophomore and a starter as a junior. That is 3 years of eligibility.

Then, during the coaching transition at Maryville, Wolfbarger was listed as a junior again in 2012.

Wolfbarger started at LB for Maryville in 2012 and 2013.  That's 5 years.....   The word around MC is that documents were changed to get him an extra year.  It seems that the athletic trainer and AD were involved in this.....

Does the NCAA really cares about Division-3 ethics??  Who knows.  But if this is our representative in the playoffs when a team like Methodist seems to do it the right away.  Then we should be concerned.

I wonder if the USA South commissioner will look into this....   Probably not.....

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 19, 2013, 01:49:44 PM
I can't remember if Wolfenbarger played in the JV games or not, but I do know that he was injured his freshman year. That I can attest to. If a player is injured before the completion of the 3rd game of the varsity season, or before 33% of the season is played, a medical red shirt can be given (I fairly certain of that, but I could be wrong). I'm not a compliance director, so I don't know how that all happens.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 19, 2013, 02:02:05 PM
Quote from: PantherGuy on November 19, 2013, 01:33:21 PM
Just to follow up on my earlier post, my step-son played at Maryville from 2008-2011 and played on the JV team his first 2 years.  He played in 3 JV games as a freshman.  During his sophomore year, 2009 Maryville played 2 JV games against University of the Cumberlands.  In Division-3, there is no red-shirting unless it is a medical redshirt.

Without a doubt, LB Dylan Wolfbarger played in those JV games which counts as 1 year of eligibility. My step-son played along side of him during those games. Looking at the MC's media guides, Wolfbarger is listed as a freshman in 2009, a sophomore in 2010, and a junior in 2011.  He was a backup as a sophomore and a starter as a junior. That is 3 years of eligibility.

Then, during the coaching transition at Maryville, Wolfbarger was listed as a junior again in 2012.

Wolfbarger started at LB for Maryville in 2012 and 2013.  That's 5 years.....   The word around MC is that documents were changed to get him an extra year.  It seems that the athletic trainer and AD were involved in this.....

Does the NCAA really cares about Division-3 ethics??  Who knows.  But if this is our representative in the playoffs when a team like Methodist seems to do it the right away.  Then we should be concerned.

I wonder if the USA South commissioner will look into this....   Probably not.....
while i like the sentiment, i don't think the monarch coaching staff is getting ready to board a bus for farmville :)

as scots13 said, we don't know what happened with respect to a possible medical redshirt

but statistics do confirm the following:
2009
http://usasouth.net/sports/fball/2009-10/files/mvc.htm#team.ind
1 varsity game...how many JV games?

2010
http://usasouth.net/sports/fball/2010-11/files/mvc.htm#team.ind
10 games

2011
http://usasouth.net/sports/fball/2011-12/teams/maryvilletenn?view=lineup
9 games

2012
http://usasouth.net/sports/fball/2012-13/teams/maryvilletenn?view=lineup
10 games

2013
http://usasouth.net/sports/fball/2013-14/teams/maryvilletenn?view=lineup
10 games and counting

on the surface, i could see why someone would think he has used his eligibility...and if he didn't get a medical redshirt for 2009, he is indeed ineligible per my understanding of the rules, but don't trust media guides...for instance, right now jordan vann is listed as a junior, but i'm almost 100% certain that he is just a sophomore eligibility-wise - many outside of the mu program wouldn't know that patrick jacobs had a medical redshirt season...these things are common, and unless you have absolute, verifiable proof that wolfenbarger played in at least 2 JV games in 2009 (assuming scots13 is correct that the 3rd game would trigger the use of a full year, and i think he is), his eligibility is not in question
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 19, 2013, 02:07:35 PM
As I stated in an earlier post, we played one jv game early in the year and one later. If he was hurt and couldn't play in more than one varsity game, then why would he have played in a meaningless jv game?
Stats for jv games and who played in what aren't kept, so there is no evidence he played or didn't play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 19, 2013, 07:26:39 PM
I remember Scots 13s opening shots.

He had confidentially advised me that he has seen a "naked man in a Turkish bath" at a MU game. I was a little taken aback as I knew Narch was partial to women's underwear. Perhaps there was some confusion.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 19, 2013, 08:13:49 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on November 19, 2013, 07:26:39 PM
I remember Scots 13s opening shots.

He had confidentially advised me that he has seen a "naked man in a Turkish bath" at a MU game. I was a little taken aback as I knew Narch was partial to women's underwear. Perhaps there was some confusion.

I read somewhere a few weeks back that said the original script of Forrest Gump had "A Methodist game is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get." They decided to change it to "Life is like a box of chocolates" after a courthouse protest at the filming location of a odd man wearing a green toga trimmed in yellow riding a stick horse with a quote "majestic, carnival booth quality life-sized, stuffed lion strapped to his back."
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Highlander on November 20, 2013, 03:08:56 AM
Seldom poster, but continuous lurker of this forum... First, let me congratulate the Maryville Fighting Scots and the Hampden Syndney Tigers on winning their respective conferences to receive an automatic bid to this years D3 playoff championship. Here are some of my random thoughts/questions regarding this Saturday's matchup between the Fighting Scots and the Tigers:
(1) I am going to show my age with this, but, Hampden Syndney was the site of my last Football Road Game as a Fighting Scot in 1999. Which, by the way, was a 13-3 victory for the Fighting Scots. Hopefully that is a good omen...And, The Fighting Scots finished that season the following week with a victory against those Wasps from E&H to finish the season with a 7-3 record...
(2) We have all heard fans of each of these respective conferences debating for several years about which conference was stronger. Well, on this upcoming saturday we are going to get a one-time shot at bragging rights for whichever conference champ wins.
(3) One question that needs to be asked is, "How is each of these teams going to respond after their respective games last weekend?" For examples: The Fighting Scots traveled to Huntingdon and lost to a good, but not as good as they usually are, Huntingdon team. I feel that one must remember that games between those two teams have always been great. And, each of those teams know almost everything about the other given their history and the fact that Coach Rader was an assistant at Huntingdon for so many years. While that lose may have hurt, I feel that it can be used to help focus and humble a young team that has never ever been in the position that it is in at the present time. On the flip side, The Tigers traveled to Ashland to compete in "The Game" and returned victors. Will that combined with the unexpected opportunity to host a first round game lead to a slight bit of overconfidence for the Tigers? Who knows? I certainily hope so  :)
(4) While we all know that this game is going to hinge on the Tigers passing attack versus the Fighting Scots rushing attack, I feel that in order for the Fighting Scots to be victorious there are a couple of things that must happen. First, I feel that the Scots need to receive the opening kick and either score first, or at the very minimum establish field position early. Second, the Fighting Scots MUST win the turnover battle. CNU proved that the best way to beat the Tigers is to turn them over. Third, the Fighting Scots must not have any more special teams breakdowns. Those will get you beat against good teams, which at this point, everyone is. Fourth, I feel that it is important that the Scots gameplan must mirror the things that have gotten them to this point. Don't fix things that aren't broke.
(5) As great as it would have been for the Fighting Scots to have been able to win last week and have the shot at hosting, I feel that being on the road may actually play into the Scots favor since they have never been in this position before. I always felt as a player it was much easier to focus the week of, night before, and day of an away game. Especially, one that is an overnight trip.
(6) Given this matchup, I am 100% sure that each team and its fans feel that this is a winnable game for each of the respective institutions. It's not like the ODAC champ or the USAC champ was shipped to Belton or Alliance :) I feel that this matchup is great for the schools and the conferences that they represent. On this train of thought, I have read all about the criteria regarding the selection of the brackets and where each team is placed. One question that I have not heard is that maybe the selection committee saw this as an oppportunity, given the results in the South and East last weekend, to ensure that one of these conference champs make it to the second round :)
(7) Win or lose, I am extremely proud of my Fighting Scots!!!
(8) I look forward to others comments and posts leading up to the matchup this saturday.

P.S. "Panther Guy" Those are some pretty serious accusations. I just do not believe that Maryville would do anything that does not follow the model of D3 athletics and the respective NCAA rules. I know that Lagrange has certainly had a difficult period as of late, and that you have had a family member play at Maryville. Which you have never stated that your stepson graduated from Maryville. And, that you have a current son playing at Lagrange. I just hope that all of these circumstances has not allowed you to post such serious accusations that may ultimately just be commonplace scuttle.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 20, 2013, 08:05:06 AM
Congrats to Maryville Scots on winning the conference. Great job.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 20, 2013, 08:09:38 AM
Hopefully, Averett will be able to rebound soon and get back in the mix of things. I saw them play this year at CNU and they looked fairly good for 3 quarters. One thing I noticed was they were extremely small. No size on the line. Lots of heart but no size. Also, they are young. I think they had mostly Freshmen and Sophmores playing. I know what those rebuilding years are like, we went 0-10 in 2007.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 20, 2013, 09:16:27 AM
Highlander.....I am pretty knowledgeable about both of these programs so I will take a shot at commenting. I have good friends/ former teammates that will be pulling for the Tigers and the Scots. This is an attempt by someone that has much love for both of these schools to be objective. I have seen the Tigers play in person once this year and both teams several times on video. I regret missing MC HC this year but that is another story. IMO.....all things equal.....on paper the Tigers are a 7-10 point favorite. But as we know...the game is not played on paper. This is a big deal for the MC program. I expect the Scots to be sky high. Hopefully....the Q1 jitters will be minimal. Emotional X Factor +1 Scots. Coming off a big emotional win against Macon....I do not expect Q1 jitters from the Tigers. However.....I think it entirely possible HS comes out a little flat on Sat. The Scots need to set the tone early. The Tigers will come out and do what they do. Anyone that follows the ODAC knows.....look for any thing at any time from the Tiger O or special teams. Onside kick.....reverse.....hook and ladder....etc. I expect both teams to score but the Scots will need a better defensive effort than last week against Huntingdon. That game was a track meet and unfortunately.....the Scots blinked first. I realize the Hawks have an outstanding offense.....so does H-S. The Tigers will move the ball but MC will need to bend and not break and create some TO's (and capitalize). If the Tiger team that played Shenandoah shows up....Scots win. No dis intended to SU as they are a team probably better than their record but IMHO....the Tigers headed to frat row to celebrate HC after their third possession in Q1. Give SU credit....you could see their confidence grow with each possession and the Tigers did not put them away early when they had the chance. I even made a comment at the game in Q2 to that effect. Back to this Sat. If the Tiger team that totally dominated (on both sides of the ball.....sorry Hasa) a very good Guilford team shows.....could be a long day for the Scots. IMO....MC needs to stay with what got them to the show with maybe a little wrinkle in the mix somewhere. H-S will get theirs....don't panic. Control the tempo and try to keep the H-S O off the field. YES...I know Macon did this....won the TO battle and still lost but in the end....it took a valiant 2nd half effort by a (what had to be gassed) Tiger D and came down to a 2 point conversion. I never dreamed this match up would happen but am thrilled to see it. It is a good draw for both teams. I am lucky....no matter the outcome Sat.....I will have a team to pull for next week. Until then.....GO SCOTS GO!!!

Prediction #1: Scots at least +2 on TO's.........MC 31   H-S 28   
Prediction #2: Scots less than +2 on TO's........H-S 42    MC 31


Note: Disregard everything I said above. I have just ensured a 7 to 6 defensive slug fest!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 20, 2013, 11:08:14 AM
AllSky

I agree with your comments but I would add, the HSC defense is probably better than what MC has seen this year and HSc's O line is probably better or certainly as good as any OL MC has seen.

That said, we all know anything can happen and that is why the game is not played on paper.

Turnovers, as always, could decide this one.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 20, 2013, 11:27:37 AM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on November 20, 2013, 11:08:14 AM
AllSky

I agree with your comments but I would add, the HSC defense is probably better than what MC has seen this year and HSc's O line is probably better or certainly as good as any OL MC has seen.

That said, we all know anything can happen and that is why the game is not played on paper.

Turnovers, as always, could decide this one.

I'll agree with that. Although Huntingdon's line was pretty dang good last week, I think HSC might have a slight edge. HSC's defense will be the best they've seen. I think we got CNU's defense on an off week due to the loss of one of the coaches.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 20, 2013, 11:52:38 AM
Speaking of CNU.....not sure what to make of that as far as H-S versus MC  is concerned. I did not see either the Scots or Tigers play them. Not sure how you beat anyone turning the ball over 8 times. What jumped out at me is the fact that Tiger D only allowed 17 points in spite of that. On the MC side of things.....after the CNU win in NN.....I knew this had the makings of a special season for the Scots. 

As an old school guy.....wouldn't hurt my feelings if I am totally wrong on my predictions and we see a good clean defensive struggle.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 20, 2013, 11:59:13 AM
I'm only half old school in that case. I LOVE seeing my boys run up and down the field, but I don't mind seeing 3 and outs either..
Games like last week are going to give me a heart attack some day.

I wonder if HSC will look into history as see the last time the teams played one another it was an 82-14 beat down. I doubt it, but it could happen.  But in the 2003 MC team's defense, it was reported that nearly all of the 2 deep was out of the game with some kind of virus and the JVs pretty much played the entire game. Hopefully we make up for that this weekend.

On Highlanders, Down the Field!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 20, 2013, 12:11:43 PM
Congratulations to everyone honored by the USAC today as All Conference players and MC's Coach Rader as he was selected as Coach of the Year.

narch, looks like Reber beat out LC's qb for OPOTY. Not a surprise after the way he ended the year. Congrats.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 20, 2013, 02:16:09 PM
Allsky & Scots13

Welcome back to the Commonwealth on Saturday. I hope you guys remember how Virginia gentleman conduct themselves at a football game. I'll be in The Founders lot, come over for pre-game refreshments. I'll have plenty of everything.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 20, 2013, 05:15:53 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on November 20, 2013, 02:16:09 PM
Allsky & Scots13

Welcome back to the Commonwealth on Saturday. I hope you guys remember how Virginia gentleman conduct themselves at a football game. I'll be in The Founders lot, come over for pre-game refreshments. I'll have plenty of everything.

Thank you for the invite. I'll have to dust off my Virginia Gentleman's Etiquette Book, but don't look for me to be wearing a tie and a blazer to a football game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on November 20, 2013, 05:24:19 PM
LOL!!! I moved back to the Commonwealth in 1987.  Been hiding out in the mountains of Amherst County for the last decade or so. Did you say refreshments?  :o

I'll get my best duds dry cleaned. I'll be the one Sat. that looks like the guy at the link below.  ;)

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://testosterhome.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/braveheart.jpg&imgrefurl=http://testosterhome.net/2013/01/why-flasks-were-invented.html/braveheart&h=168&w=300&sz=1&tbnid=r0ZoGOX9m4O4IM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=200&zoom=1&usg=__U3f6F-IshaKCPpwv0L491Ply68I=&docid=WHjp3nlfGe7QFM&itg=1&sa=X&ei=5jSNUuRJhbHgA-r7gYAM&ved=0CLsBEPwdMAs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 20, 2013, 07:48:36 PM
just got a look at the all-conference teams...can't say i'm overly surprised by any of the choices, although it's interesting that lagrange took home so many poty awards - can't argue against rader, although i was hoping coach goss would get the nod - i was a bit surprised to see mitchell get 1st team and payne 2nd team as a db - mitchell flashed (he played well against cnu and lagrange, in particular), but dj payne was the best db on the mu team...surprised that 2 db's from the last ranked pass defense in the nation got voted all-conference

if reber hadn't won optoy...well, i would have been very upset - i'm really hoping we can see him on some all-american teams - he led the nation in total yards on a team that went 8-2...that's GOT to get him in the discussion  - he's clearly the best qb in the region - i think vaughn cross could get on the table, as well, depending on how deep the list is...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 20, 2013, 07:50:34 PM
Completely agree. Even the Goss part  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 21, 2013, 09:09:24 PM
If you've actually looked at those airfares to Portland Thanksgiving weekend, here's a little boost about McMinnville while you think of a way to bring that little unexpected NW vacation up to your wife so she'll think of going along with your idea....

http://1859oregonmagazine.com/72-hours-in-mcminnville (http://1859oregonmagazine.com/72-hours-in-mcminnville)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 22, 2013, 09:06:37 AM
Just heard that Mike Dunleavy (head coach at Averett) has resigned this week. Averett is beginning National Search for a coach.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 22, 2013, 11:26:30 AM
I would imagine the head job at Averett is not an easy one given lack of facilities and location. You don't have to travel too far in any direction without running into other d3 schools with much better facilities. Recruiting to that campus is probably not very easy. I wish them all the luck in the world.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 22, 2013, 01:27:41 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 22, 2013, 09:06:37 AM
Just heard that Mike Dunleavy (head coach at Averett) has resigned this week. Averett is beginning National Search for a coach.
i've always thought that dunleavy was a classy guy based on my observations (media days, game day, etc.) and i've heard similar things from folks who know - au will no doubt miss his leadership and i wish him the best of luck in the future - that being said, i'm sure au fans have a bit of excitement about the prospect of a new perspective, especially after seeing the turnarounds that new coaching staff's have made at a number of usasac schools - good luck to au...i hope they can get someone who wins 9 of the 10 saturdays they play :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 22, 2013, 01:51:22 PM
those of you who are long-time members of this board know that i like to play with numbers...and i'm at it again - given the outstanding season that max reber had this year, i wondered how he stacked up against other qb's nationally - the last few nights i've been working on a spreadsheet that looks at 20 qb's nationally - i have them ranked in the following 8 categories (with rationale in parenthesis)

Total Yards (the qb's job is to move his team...every game)
Yards/Game (a small handful of the ranked qb's didn't play 10 games...i didn't want to penalize them for an injury or coaches decision to sit them in a meaningless game - this measures the impact of each game the qb is involved in)
Yards/Play (many of these qb's played only 3 quarters each game, sitting out in the 4th quarter of blow out games...this metric allows the evaluation to neutralize this impact  and measures the impact of each play the qb is involved in)

I analyzed all three yardage metrics, because all three are important in some respects...for instance, mu needed EVERY total yard that max reber gained this year, while kevin burke from mount union probably sat out a lot of 4th quarters, and his impact is best measured on a per play basis - this seems to be the most fair way to evaluate both of those scenarios

Completion % (a good qb has to be accurate with the ball)
Interception rate (int/attempt...you don't want to give the other team the ball)
Total Touchdowns (rush and pass) (scoring td's is the point)
TD rate (total td/play...because this is a per play statistic, it minimizes playing time concerns)

lastly, i examined a team stat most frequently attributed to qb's (although not always accurately)
Team wins (a guy who puts up good numbers for a winning team should be rewarded)

I ranked each of the 20 qb's examined in each category and then assigned a point value between 1 and 20 for the rank (ex: #1 got 20 points, #20 got 1 point) - in the case of ties, i split the total points between the tied players (ex: 3 players tied for first would each get 19 points...(20+19+18)/3) - i then totaled the points for these 8 categories for each player ranked, and here are the top 5:


PLAYERSCHOOLREGIONTOTAL RANK PTS
Jonny WestFranklinN132.5
Kevin BurkeMount UnionN126.5
Max ReberMethodist   S124.0
Austin DamaschkeConcordia (WI)N123.0
Reed FlorenceWittenberg   N111.5

based on these metrics, i would not be surprised to see max reber make an all-american list or two...especially if they go 4 or 5 deep...my calculations have him as the 3rd best qb in the country and the best in the region - here is the full spreadsheet (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-6qdIRKxL7NS3AxWUx4VmFENTQ/edit?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 22, 2013, 01:59:46 PM
Quote from: narch on November 22, 2013, 01:27:41 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on November 22, 2013, 09:06:37 AM
Just heard that Mike Dunleavy (head coach at Averett) has resigned this week. Averett is beginning National Search for a coach.
i've always thought that dunleavy was a classy guy based on my observations (media days, game day, etc.) and i've heard similar things from folks who know - au will no doubt miss his leadership and i wish him the best of luck in the future - that being said, i'm sure au fans have a bit of excitement about the prospect of a new perspective, especially after seeing the turnarounds that new coaching staff's have made at a number of usasac schools - good luck to au...i hope they can get someone who wins 9 of the 10 saturdays they play :)

They are in the middle of a major fund raising campaign to build a new stadium and put in new turf field. I was told by one of the coaches at the CNU game that they were scheduled for next year but now it has been put off to 2015. Anything would be an improvment. The problem is space, they are very limited unless they can purchase more land around the North Campus where the Football field is. The original campus is in the older section of Danville and there is nothing around it to expand.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUgrad40 on November 22, 2013, 02:43:50 PM
Having played for the Averett University for 4 years, I can honestly say that the news of his resignation was a hard pill to swallow.  Coach Dunlevy meant so much to the program, the school, and the lives of his players.  Unfortunately tradition and respect take a back seat to success in collegiate athletics.  His staff had an astounding impact on my life and the lives of many of my team mates.  With that being said, I remain loyal to the university, and I hope they find someone who can bring us back to the winning ways that we are accustomed to.

Good luck to those teams who made it to playoffs!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 23, 2013, 09:12:55 AM
Let's go Scots!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 23, 2013, 10:02:32 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 21, 2013, 09:09:24 PM
If you've actually looked at those airfares to Portland Thanksgiving weekend, here's a little boost about McMinnville while you think of a way to bring that little unexpected NW vacation up to your wife so she'll think of going along with your idea....

http://1859oregonmagazine.com/72-hours-in-mcminnville (http://1859oregonmagazine.com/72-hours-in-mcminnville)
I actually drove to McMinnville while visiting my sister in Salem, OR.  Got a good look at Linfield College and the aviation museum, which has the Spruce Goose.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on November 23, 2013, 12:40:19 PM
Maryville is looking good...Go Scots!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 23, 2013, 07:06:54 PM
nice run scots...sorry you couldn't bring a victory home for the conference
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSC85 on November 23, 2013, 09:00:42 PM
Congratulations on a fine season Maryville. You played a good game today and competed well on both sides of the ball. Your school and your conference were well represented today.  Good luck as you prepare for next season. Everyone should be proud of the Scots. The game was an excellent example of what is special about D3 athletics.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 23, 2013, 10:08:26 PM
HSC85

yall hang tough next week out west, i am unsure, but spect most Huntington folk will be pulling for yall.......least this on will
keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 25, 2013, 01:05:13 AM
And let the talk of the 2014 USAC season begin...  :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 25, 2013, 02:03:01 PM
Scots

yall had a great season, congrats
i believe the USA South will be improving each year...and only if its memebers can find 'D' units to math thier offenses

keep the faith and Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 25, 2013, 02:09:17 PM
Scots13

Great game to watch this past Saturday. Could have gone either way. MC is good and should be better next year. Hope to see ya'll again next year. Have a great Thanksgiving. Ours got messed up having to travel to Oregon but I'm not complaining.
Should be interesting to experience Big Time D3 football close up. It will give us all a measuring stick as to where the ODAC/USASC stack up on the national stage. I'm afraid I already know the answer but might get surprised.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 25, 2013, 02:15:32 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 25, 2013, 02:03:01 PM
Scots

yall had a great season, congrats
i believe the USA South will be improving each year...and only if its memebers can find 'D' units to math thier offenses

keep the faith and Go Hawks

If our teams can find some defense, next year's top teams in the league might be scary. Not top 15 in d3 good, but good enough to win a dang playoff game.

Quote from: tigerfanalso on November 25, 2013, 02:09:17 PM
Scots13

Great game to watch this past Saturday. Could have gone either way. MC is good and should be better next year. Hope to see ya'll again next year. Have a great Thanksgiving. Ours got messed up having to travel to Oregon but I'm not complaining.
Should be interesting to experience Big Time D3 football close up. It will give us all a measuring stick as to where the ODAC/USASC stack up on the national stage. I'm afraid I already know the answer but might get surprised.

It was a great game. I was talking with one of the grounds keepers during the middle part of the game and he was just surprised to see HSC playing such an evenly matched first round game. Can't complain about the match up or the game. It was exciting down to the wire. I just wish my Thanksgiving was out there, but you earned all 5000 miles of the trip.  You fellas be safe and have a great time out there.

And you're right..we'll see where the ODAC/USAC stack up against the top teams of D3. Hopefully we're not as far off as we all think, and if we are, we'll get a good idea of what's lacking.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 25, 2013, 02:22:34 PM
Size, speed and numbers is what separates great teams from good teams, at any level. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 25, 2013, 02:46:07 PM
True. Hopefully HSC can be the Northern Illinois of D3 this year. If your guys can somehow beat Linfield, it will ease the pain of Saturday's loss.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on November 25, 2013, 02:49:47 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 25, 2013, 02:46:07 PM
True. Hopefully HSC can be the Northern Illinois of D3 this year. If your guys can somehow beat Linfield, it will ease the pain of Saturday's loss.

I think the Boise State (trickeration playbook) vs. Oregon (spread option) (2008) would be a better comparison.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 25, 2013, 03:09:43 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on November 25, 2013, 02:49:47 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 25, 2013, 02:46:07 PM
True. Hopefully HSC can be the Northern Illinois of D3 this year. If your guys can somehow beat Linfield, it will ease the pain of Saturday's loss.

I think the Boise State (trickeration playbook) vs. Oregon (spread option) (2008) would be a better comparison.

I was going for recent D1 play with small schools playing for a BCS berth against the big boys, but you're right. Boise and Oregon are a better comparison.

Funny it's Oregon and Linfield's in Oregon..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 26, 2013, 03:15:28 PM
Graham Craig is a finalist for the Gagliardi Trophy. Congratulations to him, his family, and to LaGrange.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 27, 2013, 08:43:50 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 26, 2013, 03:15:28 PM
Graham Craig is a finalist for the Gagliardi Trophy. Congratulations to him, his family, and to LaGrange.
good luck to Graham Craig...huge honor to be one of the 10 finalists....

lots of those names are familiar from my qb research below :)

Quote from: narch on November 22, 2013, 01:51:22 PM
those of you who are long-time members of this board know that i like to play with numbers...and i'm at it again - given the outstanding season that max reber had this year, i wondered how he stacked up against other qb's nationally - the last few nights i've been working on a spreadsheet that looks at 20 qb's nationally - i have them ranked in the following 8 categories (with rationale in parenthesis)

Total Yards (the qb's job is to move his team...every game)
Yards/Game (a small handful of the ranked qb's didn't play 10 games...i didn't want to penalize them for an injury or coaches decision to sit them in a meaningless game - this measures the impact of each game the qb is involved in)
Yards/Play (many of these qb's played only 3 quarters each game, sitting out in the 4th quarter of blow out games...this metric allows the evaluation to neutralize this impact  and measures the impact of each play the qb is involved in)

I analyzed all three yardage metrics, because all three are important in some respects...for instance, mu needed EVERY total yard that max reber gained this year, while kevin burke from mount union probably sat out a lot of 4th quarters, and his impact is best measured on a per play basis - this seems to be the most fair way to evaluate both of those scenarios

Completion % (a good qb has to be accurate with the ball)
Interception rate (int/attempt...you don't want to give the other team the ball)
Total Touchdowns (rush and pass) (scoring td's is the point)
TD rate (total td/play...because this is a per play statistic, it minimizes playing time concerns)

lastly, i examined a team stat most frequently attributed to qb's (although not always accurately)
Team wins (a guy who puts up good numbers for a winning team should be rewarded)

I ranked each of the 20 qb's examined in each category and then assigned a point value between 1 and 20 for the rank (ex: #1 got 20 points, #20 got 1 point) - in the case of ties, i split the total points between the tied players (ex: 3 players tied for first would each get 19 points...(20+19+18)/3) - i then totaled the points for these 8 categories for each player ranked, and here are the top 5:


PLAYERSCHOOLREGIONTOTAL RANK PTS
Jonny WestFranklinN132.5
Kevin BurkeMount UnionN126.5
Max ReberMethodist   S124.0
Austin DamaschkeConcordia (WI)N123.0
Reed FlorenceWittenberg   N111.5

based on these metrics, i would not be surprised to see max reber make an all-american list or two...especially if they go 4 or 5 deep...my calculations have him as the 3rd best qb in the country and the best in the region - here is the full spreadsheet (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-6qdIRKxL7NS3AxWUx4VmFENTQ/edit?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 27, 2013, 05:36:47 PM
At first, I thought it was surprising to see Craig on the list for the sole reason that this is his first year at the D3 level and no one really knew of him. And let's face it, most people outside of the region probably don't care about a QB on a team with a mediocre record. Other guys on the list are on teams that are known throughout the entire division.

With that being said, his extracurricular activities and stats are outstanding and he is truly deserving of being on the list. I hope he does well in the final voting and get the award. It would be great for the USAC and LC to have a Gagliardi winner.

narch, I think over the last few weeks your karma has taken a hit from the guys on the ODAC board. I'm giving you a +k for the research you did. Takes time and effort to be a D3 number cruncher. I know I couldn't do it.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 27, 2013, 07:51:02 PM
scots13 - thanks...the numbers really aren't that difficult to crunch...just copy and paste into excel - it's interpreting the numbers that is what matters :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 27, 2013, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 27, 2013, 05:36:47 PM
At first, I thought it was surprising to see Craig on the list for the sole reason that this is his first year at the D3 level and no one really knew of him.

Plus that means he has no academic track record in Division III at all ...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 28, 2013, 11:13:40 AM
yall have a most wonderful and blessed Thanksgiving
keep the faith
Go Hawks (and War Eagle)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 28, 2013, 03:19:59 PM
Thank you, DG. Hope you and everyone else on the boards are having a great Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on December 06, 2013, 08:40:17 PM
Since the season for all but 8 D3 teams is over, let's start a little discussion about the 2014 season for the USAC.

After the players end their season, coaches begin their season...RECRUITING.  This weekend is the TSSAA Football Championship weekend at Tennessee Tech's Tucker Stadium.  I didn't go to HS in TN, so I'm iffy on the classifications within TSSAA, but there are 2 divisions. D1 has 6 classes (1A, 2A....) and D2 has 2 classes.

What's this have to do with anything, you ask? Quite a bit, really.

MC is in Blount County and 2 schools within the county (Maryville HS and Alcoa HS) have made their respective title games, with Alcoa just winning their game and MHS playing tomorrow in the 6A game. Neighboring Knox County has Webb School (won D2-1A title), West HS (about to play for the 5A title tonight), and Fulton HS (playing tomorrow for 4A title).

So, with that being said, 5 out of the 16 top high school programs in the state are literally in MC's backyard and have had plenty o' men play at MC. Recruiting season might be a good one for MC, of course they do have to compete with D2 Carson-Newman and Tusculum for the borderline talent in the area.

Hopefully we have another class of local guys from Maryville and Alcoa like last years. I think we had something like 6-8 good ball players from those schools. Really helps with the community being drawn to the College.

Happy Recruiting, USAC. Let's get the players in our programs that will build the league up where it should be!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on December 10, 2013, 02:05:12 PM
Scots,

Sounds very familiar to CNU's situation. I wonder how much of an impact has in the past year's of some very good local talent ending up at CNU (or in your case MC)? This area is a hotbed for talent...the infamous 757. CNU seems to focus on talent at the AA level. In Va there is AAA, AA, and A with each level having 2 divisions. So we have Div 1 and 2 which is A, 3 and 4 which is AA, and 5 and 6 which is AAA. AAA being the schools with the highest enrollment. When I was in school we only had AAA, AA and A...no divisions within. Each football district is all AAA or AA etc. But can have teams in different divisions like 5 and 6. So a district can, and has in the past boasted 2 state champions. In the immediate area, most districts are AAA with schools from Newport News, Hampton, Norfolk, Va Beach. There are a few AA mixed in. CNU can pull in a few AA all-region or all-state players. But typically an all-state AAA player is heading D1 (like Taj Boyd from Phoebus HS in Hampton). The Peninsula District is a talent pool for sure. Every high school that I can think of can boast of at least one NFL player and some are in the Hall of Fame. Just about everyone I know has graduated with someone who went on to play in the NFL (my brother, me, my wife, my daughter). I think one challenge is that for AAA schools around here, how many players are relatively unknown? They don't make all-region accolades and I wonder if they tend to get missed. Sometimes I see someone on the CNU roster from a local high school and I don't recall anything about his high school career. I guess that's the job of the CNU coaches!

Anyway, sounds like the situation for your boys is positive which means you guys will be contenders for a long time! Something for you to look forward to!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on December 10, 2013, 02:51:14 PM
If I were a coach, I'd be looking into the "no name" guys at higher levels in the state. I don't think it's that big of a jump or culture shocks as compared to small school kids.  No names definitely have ability to play at our level if they had to play against guys like Taj Boyd. Big named guys at small levels can be an asset, too, don't get me wrong.

I think CNU will do well again in their recruiting efforts and bring in some quality transfers.  CNU is too appealing not too, especially for in state guys.

The thing about East Tennessee as a talent pool: the TEAMS are dominate with several good players.  Most of the big named talent in the state are from Middle and West TN. It seems like every year several of the "D3" talent in the Knoxville area that can really make a difference in MC's program head up to Cumberlands in KY. (Just looked at their roster and they have 30 East Tennesseans.) Cumberlands also plays in the NAIA National Championship on the 21st.

Good luck to your boys at CNU and other programs in the conference this off season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on December 10, 2013, 09:29:41 PM
http://coachoftheyear.com/leaderboard/

Looky here. Coach Rader is currently leading the vote for Liberty Mutual's COTY. Got Facebook? Spread the Christmas cheer and vote for your fellow USAC brother!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on December 11, 2013, 12:02:37 AM
got a peek at the d3football.com all-region awards...bitter-sweet - i'm happy for max reber being named 2nd team, but disappointed he's not a first-teamer - nash nance had a fantastic year, but the bottom line is that reber led him in almost every major stat category:

completion % (65.9 vs. 63.2)
total yards/game (364.2 1st nationally vs. 337.4  8th nationally)
yards/play (8.06 5th nationally among top 50  vs. 6.83 21st nationally among top 50)
passing yards/game (299.8 10th nationally vs. 292.0 12th nationally)
yards/completion (14.3 6th nationally among top 50 passers vs. 12.7  25th nationally among top 50 passers)
yards/pass attempt (9.46 5th nationally among top 50 passers vs. 8.02 17th nationally among top 50 passers)
rushing yards (644 vs. 545)
yards/carry (4.8 vs. 3.5)
TD ratio (1 per 12 att vs. 1 per 16 att)
INT ratio (1 per 75 attempts vs. 1 per 40 attempts)
passing efficiency (169.2 8th nationally vs. 144.0 50th nationally)

the only statistical areas that nance led reber in were the following:
wins (9 vs 8...of course his winning % was lower at .750 vs. .800)
total yards (4049 vs. 3642...in two more games and 139 more plays...)
rushing TD (17 vs. 4)
points responsible for (264 4th nationally vs. 180 t27th nationally)
points responsible for per game (22.0 4th nationally vs. 18.0 25th nationally)
pass TD (27 t15th nationally vs. 26 t18th nationally...again, in two more games)
fumbles lost (2 vs. 4)

INT's (15 vs. 6...oh wait, that isn't really "leading" that stat category, is it :))

2 of the stats that nance leads are a direct result of his team playing 2 more games than reber - i get it...leading his team to the tournament has to count for something, but the bottom line is that reber led him statistically in almost every major category...we're not talking about a situation where the numbers were relatively close and one made it to the playoffs while the other didn't

vaughn cross was named 3rd team all-region...averaged 104 yards/game and is currently 2nd in the nation with 18 td...i've seen the barraffio kid from w&j play (1st team), and he's a baller, but his numbers weren't as strong as most of the guys below him, including cross...he had 11 yards more and 7 td's less than cross in 1 more game...the dude can play, though - the kid from wesley didn't even average 100 yards per game and scored 13 tds, but got a second team nod...if TD's were important with nance vs. reber (total td's is really the only area that nance has a significant advantage vs. reber), why weren't they important in cross vs. the other wr's?

congrats to carter (lagrange) for his first team selection, hightower (m'ville) and copening (cnu) for their second team selections and stephens (m'ville), pridgen (huntingdon), studer (cnu) and barlow (cnu) for their third team selections
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2013, 12:05:24 AM
That rushing touchdowns thing is pretty big.

"The Wesley kid" nearly beat Mount Union last week with his speed. His overall numbers are low because he was hurt going into the UMHB game and was hobbling for a couple games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on December 11, 2013, 12:16:38 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2013, 12:05:24 AM
That rushing touchdowns thing is pretty big.

"The Wesley kid" nearly beat Mount Union last week with his speed. His overall numbers are low because he was hurt going into the UMHB game and was hobbling for a couple games.
i'm not saying he can't play...i'm sure he can...but he was healthy enough to play in every game this season and averaged 87.5 yards per game (vs. 104.0 for cross) - even with all that speed, he was a yard per catch lower than cross  (14.58 vs. 15.52 ypc) and scored 5 fewer tds in 3 more games

if TD's were important with nance vs. reber, why weren't they important in cross vs. the other wr's?

and in the reber v. nance argument, the INT thing is almost equally as big

15 vs. 4 rushing TD advantage, 6 vs. 15 INT advantage
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2013, 01:17:05 AM
Quote from: narch on December 11, 2013, 12:16:38 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2013, 12:05:24 AM
That rushing touchdowns thing is pretty big.

"The Wesley kid" nearly beat Mount Union last week with his speed. His overall numbers are low because he was hurt going into the UMHB game and was hobbling for a couple games.
i'm not saying he can't play...i'm sure he can...but he was healthy enough to play in every game this season and averaged 87.5 yards per game (vs. 104.0 for cross) - even with all that speed, he was a yard per catch lower than cross  (14.58 vs. 15.52 ypc) and scored 5 fewer tds in 3 more games

if TD's were important with nance vs. reber, why weren't they important in cross vs. the other wr's?

and in the reber v. nance argument, the INT thing is almost equally as big

15 vs. 4 rushing TD advantage, 6 vs. 15 INT advantage

Not well. I was at the UMHB game. He shouldn't have been out there and in fact, he rarely was.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on December 11, 2013, 03:00:03 AM
I went to the MC/H-SC game and from what I saw, it's really a toss up between the two. Nance and Reber are equal in my eyes, although I believe you have a valid point in the running td/INT comparison.

If Reber was like MC's Pittenger and was a perceived "run first" guy, then it would be a no-brainer that Nance would be selected over Reber, but fact is Reber wasn't. Averaging right at 300 passing yards a game...pretty dang good. Then had the 15 rushing td's to his resume. Ouch.

If I'm not mistaken, Nance was H-SC's leading rusher on the year. Big bodied guy and had 4 td. And 35 more attempts per INT in favor of Reber solidifies his passing abilities. (1:40 to 1:75).

End of regular season both qb's were leading teams that were 8-2. Nance is in the ODAC and has a much bigger name than Reber. I can see why the selections are the way they are.

Both guys are coming back next year. Hopefully both guys stay healthy and 1) let's not s**t the bed against the ODAC early in the year, 2) the USAC winner makes a run in the playoffs and the ODAC gets kicked in the first round.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on December 11, 2013, 12:01:18 PM
I was surprised to learn of Nash's selection as well, simply because of the turnovers. That said, he is very good and did compete well against Linfield, the #2 team in the country at the time. Maybe that was the difference maker, I really don't know. There is always next year and I'm certain both of these guys will be on the radar for local, regional and national selections if they can dupicate their efforts in the 2014 season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on December 11, 2013, 01:53:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 11, 2013, 01:17:05 AM
Not well. I was at the UMHB game. He shouldn't have been out there and in fact, he rarely was.
and yet he was the leading receiver for wesley in that game with 4 catches for 32 yards...that game was sure a clunker for the wolverines offense...callahan, one of the best qb's in the country, went 9-28 for 136 yards - the umhb defense must be pretty amazing to see in person -

if we're factoring injury into the equation, i wonder if the all-region voters took into account the fact that reber missed almost 3 full quarters of the ncwc game due to injury...in that game, he was 7-10 for 124 yards and a td along with 7 carries for 38 yards in just over a quarter of play - his back-up (who could probably start at most usasac schools) went 21-30 for 295 and 4 td's...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on December 11, 2013, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on December 11, 2013, 12:01:18 PM
I was surprised to learn of Nash's selection as well, simply because of the turnovers. That said, he is very good and did compete well against Linfield, the #2 team in the country at the time. Maybe that was the difference maker, I really don't know. There is always next year and I'm certain both of these guys will be on the radar for local, regional and national selections if they can dupicate their efforts in the 2014 season.
i wasn't surprised as much as disappointed - i think nance and reber clearly had the best seasons among south region qb's this year - my opinion (shaped both by bias and numbers) is that reber had a better year - because nance is a huge beast of a man and max isn't, hsc uses him around the goal-line more and he gets a lot more rushing td's (mu used jordan vann in most goal-line rushing situations this year, and he had 5 rushing td's on 15 carries) - nance isn't as explosive in the running game and the hsc offense doesn't push the ball down field the way the mu offense does, and i think those things make reber's completion % and int ratio's even more impressive - in my book, accuracy and ball security are two of the most important characteristics of good qb play

i think the rushing td disparity, paired with nance's strong performance in the playoffs carried the day for him - either way, both young men are very deserving, and you're correct, both have another year...maybe max can use this as motivation to come back even better next year - i saw him make 4 or 5 bad reads this year...maybe he can reduce that number :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wasper68 on December 11, 2013, 03:12:04 PM
Quote from: narch on December 11, 2013, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on December 11, 2013, 12:01:18 PM
I was surprised to learn of Nash's selection as well, simply because of the turnovers. That said, he is very good and did compete well against Linfield, the #2 team in the country at the time. Maybe that was the difference maker, I really don't know. There is always next year and I'm certain both of these guys will be on the radar for local, regional and national selections if they can dupicate their efforts in the 2014 season.
i wasn't surprised as much as disappointed - i think nance and reber clearly had the best seasons among south region qb's this year - my opinion (shaped both by bias and numbers) is that reber had a better year - because nance is a huge beast of a man and max isn't, hsc uses him around the goal-line more and he gets a lot more rushing td's (mu used jordan vann in most goal-line rushing situations this year, and he had 5 rushing td's on 15 carries) - nance isn't as explosive in the running game and the hsc offense doesn't push the ball down field the way the mu offense does, and i think those things make reber's completion % and int ratio's even more impressive - in my book, accuracy and ball security are two of the most important characteristics of good qb play

i think the rushing td disparity, paired with nance's strong performance in the playoffs carried the day for him - either way, both young men are very deserving, and you're correct, both have another year...maybe max can use this as motivation to come back even better next year - i saw him make 4 or 5 bad reads this year...maybe he can reduce that number :)

Were they all on 9-21? ;D  That game still puzzles me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on December 11, 2013, 10:31:01 PM
Quote from: wasper68 on December 11, 2013, 03:12:04 PM
Were they all on 9-21? ;D  That game still puzzles me.
4 of the 5 bad reads were vs. ehc...the other was the pick 6 vs. cnu :)

the ehc game got even more vexing as the season went on...with each mu win and each ehc loss, it became even more confusing
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on December 20, 2013, 02:50:38 PM
Any word out of the Averett camp regarding the HC position ?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on December 20, 2013, 06:22:00 PM
I don't think they've said anything yet. I've been checking on it for a while now.  I don't think much will be said for a few weeks to come. I was actually surprised to see E&H name one this early, although he is an alum..so may be not as shocking.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on December 25, 2013, 08:53:27 PM
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and i pray all the Holidays treat all well.

Hopeing the Off season will be fun and all of our USA SAC members will stay safe and Healthy.

Hopefully the Hawks can rebound, build on last season, and improve.

keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on December 26, 2013, 10:24:32 PM
Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and completed all your travels safely.
Anyone seen any schedules? Huntingdon hasn't posted one but I advanced the school website event calendar to the fall just to see if anything was there and was able to piece this together.

9/6      @Louisiana College
9/13     BSC
9/20     @Methodist
9/27     @Maryville
10/4     Greensboro
10/11  CNU
10/18  @Ferrum
10/25  LaGrange
11/1     Open
11/8     Averett
11/15  @N.C. Wesleyan

I think the CNU game is 6PM.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on December 27, 2013, 02:08:07 PM
Looks like the Hawks have a tough month to start the year. I hope the CNU game is a 6:00 start, for selfish reasons...that'll be 7:00 eastern-- plenty of time to unwind after a Maryville win and pick up another 6 pack and head to the recliner to catch the game on the internet. If I'm not mistaken, both teams have a good core coming back for next year?

Next year is going to be one hell of a ride in my opinion. MC, CNU, HC, MU will be strong contenders again and LaGrange will have a say in the matter as well. I just wonder if Ferrum can bounce back from a lackluster year and play some good football.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on December 27, 2013, 03:19:47 PM
I don't know. We do lose a good bit to graduation. 3 O-linemen, top two RB's, one of our top receivers and one of the QB's. I was assuming the other QB will be back but even though he was listed as a JR this season it is his 4th year(sat out one year rehabbing after knee surgery) so it's possible he could be in line to graduate too. There were also 5 or 6 starters on defense who were seniors so there are some holes to be filled there too.
Hopefully we have some able bodied replacements ready to jump into the fire or that might be one rough September.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on December 28, 2013, 12:52:56 AM
Whoa. I didn't know all that. I was under the impression yall were junior heavy.

I would usually say at least you have 3 games to basically use as a preseason before conference play begins, but it's only 2 next year. Hopefully Turk will have the guys tuned up before too long. We need strong conference competition to get the USAC on track to be nationally respected, for lack of a better word. Having 5 out of 9 teams in the hunt and having the ability to win any given Saturday will do that.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on December 28, 2013, 03:50:41 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on December 28, 2013, 12:52:56 AM
Whoa. I didn't know all that. I was under the impression yall were junior heavy.

I would usually say at least you have 3 games to basically use as a preseason before conference play begins, but it's only 2 next year. Hopefully Turk will have the guys tuned up before too long. We need strong conference competition to get the USAC on track to be nationally respected, for lack of a better word. Having 5 out of 9 teams in the hunt and having the ability to win any given Saturday will do that.

Especially if you finish unscathed at the end of the season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on December 28, 2013, 11:48:08 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on December 28, 2013, 03:50:41 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on December 28, 2013, 12:52:56 AM
Whoa. I didn't know all that. I was under the impression yall were junior heavy.

I would usually say at least you have 3 games to basically use as a preseason before conference play begins, but it's only 2 next year. Hopefully Turk will have the guys tuned up before too long. We need strong conference competition to get the USAC on track to be nationally respected, for lack of a better word. Having 5 out of 9 teams in the hunt and having the ability to win any given Saturday will do that.

Especially if you finish unscathed at the end of the season.

If next year's USAC champ goes undefeated in league play next year, I'll get a shirt from their bookstore and wear it proudly.  Hopefully it's Maryville...got plenty of them without having to deal with 200% bookstore markups and S/H.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on December 30, 2013, 05:12:55 PM
CNU only had 17 seniors, but 11 were on the 2 deep at year end.

6 on defense. 5 on offense. I think the biggest impact will be at LB. We lose 3 outstanding players including our leading tackler in Moog.

But I have said this before, I remember one year we lost all 4 LB to graduation. And those guys were the best I had seen -- until the next year when the new guys were even better.

Ya just never know!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 07, 2014, 11:42:31 AM
2014 MC schedule

September 6              Berry College                        1:30                      Maryville, TN
September 13            Emory & Henry College           1:30                      Maryville, TN
September 20            Averett University                  1:00                      Danville, VA
September 27            Huntingdon College               1:30                       Maryville, TN
October 4                  *LaGrange College                2:00                       Maryville, TN
October 11                Ferrum College                      1:00                       Ferrum, VA
October 18                Greensboro College                7:00                    Greensboro, NC
November 1               NC Wesleyan College              1:30                        Maryville, TN
November 8               Christopher Newport              1:30                        Maryville, TN
November 15             Methodist University              1:00                     Fayetteville, NC

Looks like I might need to find a way to Fayetteville November 15. Might be for all the marbles.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on January 07, 2014, 12:37:34 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on January 07, 2014, 11:42:31 AM
2014 MC schedule

September 6              Berry College                        1:30                      Maryville, TN
September 13            Emory & Henry College           1:30                      Maryville, TN
September 20            Averett University                  1:00                      Danville, VA
September 27            Huntingdon College               1:30                       Maryville, TN
October 4                  *LaGrange College                2:00                       Maryville, TN
October 11                Ferrum College                      1:00                       Ferrum, VA
October 18                Greensboro College                7:00                    Greensboro, NC
November 1               NC Wesleyan College              1:30                        Maryville, TN
November 8               Christopher Newport              1:30                        Maryville, TN
November 15             Methodist University              1:00                     Fayetteville, NC

Looks like I might need to find a way to Fayetteville November 15. Might be for all the marbles.

Bummer Sewanee is off the schedule again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 07, 2014, 02:33:05 PM
It really irritates me they're off the schedule. I understand why E&H is still on-starting the bring the old rivalry back-and I kinda understand why Berry is on the schedule-needed a game and is in the same recruiting area. But I would really like to play Sewanee every year. There's only 3 D3 teams in TN with the other being Rhodes 7 hours away in Memphis. Seems to me the MC/US game would be natural to want to play. It's only a couple hours between the schools.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on January 07, 2014, 02:42:06 PM
I agree, so long as it doesn't come at the expense of the long-running W&L-Sewanee series. That is my chance every other year to see the Generals play. And one of these years it's not even going to pour on me while I'm Up on the Mountain.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 08, 2014, 12:47:24 AM
Those Sewanee boys sure are proud of that mountain of theirs. The weather's not, but they are. Fog Bowl '13 was a pain in the a$$ to watch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on January 08, 2014, 08:51:49 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on January 08, 2014, 12:47:24 AM
Those Sewanee boys sure are proud of that mountain of theirs. The weather's not, but they are. Fog Bowl '13 was a pain in the a$$ to watch.

Got to be proud of something, right? I like Sewanee. Kids were nice every time I've been there. This last time with my daughter, who was almost 3 at the time, the cheerleaders gave her purple pom-poms and all came over to chat and play with her. That was pretty cool. The football stadium is dated but the home stands are kind of different. It's always fun to walk around the gym and see the history plaques. I also think it would be a nice campus, if I ever went there and it wasn't raining. Just looks dreary in the rain, as most places do, and it seems to ALWAYS rain. I've been 4 or 5 times between college and post-college and have always been soaked.

I'll be back this year though, rain or shine. We always get lots of talk about our 1976 motor home when we bring it up to tailgate.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 12, 2014, 01:07:02 AM
Here's a great article from Stefan Cooper, freelancer writer in Blount County and owner/operator of Blount Press Row, on the recent success of the MC football team. I couldn't agree more with the sentiments in his words.

http://blountpressrow.com/2014/01/a-few-good-men/

A little aside: people may say what they will about Tony Ierulli, but I've yet to find a man to concern himself more about the well being of his players (not to say Rader is any different), whether you played for him 2 or 20 years ago. Hands down a class act. Proud to say I played in MC's Ierulli Era.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on January 14, 2014, 12:38:17 AM
Enjoyed reading the article from blountpressrow.com.   Stefan Cooper is really a talented writer and hit a homerun with this article.  I bet Maryville doesn't put this article on their website so their alums could read it.  It's too complimentary to Ierulli and the previous coach, Phil Wilks.  Without a doubt, Maryville's administration did very little to support their football program and only reacted to help out the new coach when the football alums forced them to make changes.  Most of the money was going to the basketball and volleyball programs during the time my first son attend Maryville.  That figures since the 2 athletic directors during Ierulli's tenure was the men's basketball coach and volleyball coach.

All I know is that my son enjoyed playing for Coach Ierulli and appreciates everything he did to help him start his career after Maryville.  He sent a recommendation letter and called his current employer helping him get his first job after graduation.  A couple of years later, Coach and his wife attend my son's wedding.  You are right, Scots13, he is very loyal to his players even after their playing days are over...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on January 14, 2014, 12:57:29 AM
Congrats to LB Andre Carter earning All-American honors for the second straight year. Carter was named to the D3football.com All-American second team.  He was a first team selection to the D3football All-South Region team and was the USA South Defensive Player of the Year for the second straight year.

Carter holds school records for total tackles (292), unassisted tackles (181), assisted tackles (111), tackles for loss (47.5) and yards for loss (174).

He will be greatly missed next fall as will Coach Mooney and defensive coordinator Terry Ursin.

I hope someone at LaGrange will tell new coach Mumme to at least shave and get a haircut.  All you got to do is to take a look at his picture at the LaGrange website and starting wondering if this is the image of a head football coach......
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 14, 2014, 02:11:35 AM
Quote from: PantherGuy on January 14, 2014, 12:38:17 AM
Enjoyed reading the article from blountpressrow.com.   Stefan Cooper is really a talented writer and hit a homerun with this article.  I bet Maryville doesn't put this article on their website so their alums could read it.  It's too complimentary to Ierulli and the previous coach, Phil Wilks.  Without a doubt, Maryville's administration did very little to support their football program and only reacted to help out the new coach when the football alums forced them to make changes.  Most of the money was going to the basketball and volleyball programs during the time my first son attend Maryville.  That figures since the 2 athletic directors during Ierulli's tenure was the men's basketball coach and volleyball coach.

All I know is that my son enjoyed playing for Coach Ierulli and appreciates everything he did to help him start his career after Maryville.  He sent a recommendation letter and called his current employer helping him get his first job after graduation.  A couple of years later, Coach and his wife attend my son's wedding.  You are right, Scots13, he is very loyal to his players even after their playing days are over...

I had a conversation with a couple well to do alumni and ex-admin, and they blatantly told me and a few friends there is some sort of reason a "football guy" would never be an AD at Maryville. As long as there are alumni giving back to the football program and the team is winning I couldn't care less, really.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on January 14, 2014, 11:09:10 AM
"a "football guy" would never be an AD at Maryville."

A "football guy" WAS AD at Maryville!   Bottom line........it takes support from the very top down for there to be sustained success.  Hopefully.....now that MC has tasted the playoffs.....it will continue to grow and the Fighting Scots will become a force on the national stage.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 14, 2014, 02:29:34 PM
In the last 20+ years or so, who was the football guy AD at Maryville? VB coach Schram is AD now and took over for MBB Randy Lambert.

Maybe I should have worded my statement as "never again be...".
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on January 14, 2014, 05:07:11 PM
Bobby Saylor was the HFC and AD prior to Lambert. He also coached baseball one year he was there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on January 15, 2014, 10:41:23 AM
No better person than Coach Saylor. Many fond memories of him from my days at HSC. Give him my best
and Happy New Year !!! Hopefully HSC and MC will see each other in the playoffs again in 2014. The 2013 game was a fun one to watch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on January 15, 2014, 11:54:36 AM
Was thrilled to see the Tigers and Fighting Scots play this year. When I heard the announcement of the pairing....was a whoopin and a fist pumpin!  ;D A great match up for both teams. Next year.....MC gets the W.  ;) Will give Coach S your regards. Anyone that knows him will get a kick out of this. At 77 years old.....he started a new job today at a grocery store....because he wanted to. Old School.....just don't make em that way any more.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on January 15, 2014, 03:11:54 PM
Does not surprise me in the least; Coach S is old school and too much of a people person not to be doing something outside of the house.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 23, 2014, 03:40:13 PM
Has anybody heard anything out of Danville about a coach?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on January 23, 2014, 07:46:53 PM
This board use to have several Averett alums that were strong supporters of the Cougars, but seem to just fade away and not care what has happened at AU. 

If I was an alum, I would be pretty upset about what has been taking place over the past 2 months (10 weeks to be exact) and wonder why is it taking so long to decide who their next head football coach is going to be.  To put it into perspective, Emory & Henry coach was dismissed at the same time as Averett's HC and the new coach was hired by Christmas.  Belhaven's coach stepped down around Dec. 28th and hired Hal Mumme, LaGrange's dad, has their head coach 3 weeks later.  LaGrange's head coach was hired within a week after Mooney was forced to step down.  From Division I thru DIII about 95% of the coaching changes has already been filled.

Most of Averett's coaches have been released except for a first year coach and a couple of GA's.  Our coaches never saw any of Averett's coaches at the Georgia recruiting fairs.  So whoever is going to be the new HC, this year's recruiting is going to be a bust.  If they bring in a new coach by Feb 1, it going to take time to put together a staff and will be too late to make any significant happen on the recruiting trail.

But if you look closer at the athletic administration at Averett, you can see why this is happening.  Almost all the administrators are women and the only male administrator is a Volleyball coach.  I am sure they are way over their head.  Hiring a football coach is much different than hiring the next tennis coach.  Just don't see a strong commitment from Averett and their actions are showing it.

Wondering if anyone from Averett agrees or disagrees.  It only seems that Scots13 and I are the only ones wondering about the Cougars.....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 23, 2014, 08:10:36 PM
After the fanfare they had when they brought in the new AD, I'd figure she'd be ready to get a head coach for the football team as quickly as possible and make a statement in her tenure quickly. I mean, come on now. Football programs can easily hold 5-10% of total enrollment at USAC schools, if not more.

Get it together, Averett.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: stafford on January 24, 2014, 08:10:36 AM
2014 son emailed out some video links to several schools, including Averett, in late October. Didn't get any response from Averett, but no big deal. Late in December he received a personalized form letter announcing the coaching change, but assuring him that they were still interested. Hum.... didn't know they were interested at all.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on January 24, 2014, 08:49:35 AM
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, not happy W&L picked them up as an opponent. No benefit to it. Hopefully it is a home/home to carry the General's over to a better opponent in the future. I can only hope there is a Centennial school or even a team further north on the horizon. Was much happier when W&L's three non-conf teams expose the school in 3 directions and had a reasonable shot at being .500 or better...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 24, 2014, 12:49:27 PM
Quote from: stafford on January 24, 2014, 08:10:36 AM
2014 son emailed out some video links to several schools, including Averett, in late October. Didn't get any response from Averett, but no big deal. Late in December he received a personalized form letter announcing the coaching change, but assuring him that they were still interested. Hum.... didn't know they were interested at all.

I don't know what to tell you. I had an AU assistant come to my high school early my senior year, said 5 words to me. I got up and left. If this is how they recruited, I'm surprised Coach Dunleavy was 49-69, or whatever he was.

Best of luck to your son. If you're in the Mid Atlantic/South region, give Maryville a call.  8-)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 24, 2014, 12:55:48 PM
Quote from: jknezek on January 24, 2014, 08:49:35 AM
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, not happy W&L picked them up as an opponent. No benefit to it. Hopefully it is a home/home to carry the General's over to a better opponent in the future. I can only hope there is a Centennial school or even a team further north on the horizon. Was much happier when W&L's three non-conf teams expose the school in 3 directions and had a reasonable shot at being .500 or better...

Hey brother, if it needs said, say it. I'm more unsettled by no announcement as of yet because I feel, as a whole, the USAC wants to compete and be on par with the ODAC. That can't happen with weak links. Especially a weak link in the same state as most of the ODAC. (Hence, Old Dominion.)

You say "bad opponent for W&L"
I say "get it together, Averett"
Let's say it until we're blue in the face.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on January 24, 2014, 08:50:05 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on January 23, 2014, 03:40:13 PM
Has anybody heard anything out of Danville about a coach?
i'm sure they are waiting for the end of the nfl playoffs to speak with some of the assistants whose teams are still playing :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on January 25, 2014, 07:35:30 AM
I spoke with a friend that has a son who is a sophomore on the team.  Many of the players are very disappointed with the Averett administrators and their lack of urgency.  It seems the whole process has been pushed back due to the head of the search committee, AU's volleyball coach, was gone out of the country with his volleyball team in January.  No phone interviews were done until he returned around January 14th.  Additionally, the AD did not take part of the phone interviews because she was out of town at a convention and didn't meet with the committee until she got back around January 20th.

I guess you see what is truly important at Averett.......

Right now they are conducting on-campus interviews and plan to have a coach by the end of next week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 25, 2014, 07:51:23 PM
Quote from: PantherGuy on January 25, 2014, 07:35:30 AM
Additionally, the AD did not take part of the phone interviews because she was out of town at a convention and didn't meet with the committee until she got back around January 20th.

I guess you see what is truly important at Averett.......

Regardless of everything else that's been said, attending the NCAA Convention is truly important for every Division III school.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 25, 2014, 09:08:42 PM
We understand that's imperative for the AD, but isn't finding a coach just as imperative? Seems like the convention didn't stop other schools from finding a head honcho.

Just checked some dates..
looks like it took E&H 5 weeks to land Newsome
looks like it took MC 7 weeks to land Rader
looks like IF Averett names a coach by the end of this week, it'll be 9 weeks.

Pat, fill us in on other D3 schools that are still coachless.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 26, 2014, 04:35:36 PM
Noticed Guilford and Averett are not playing each other this year - which doesn't disappoint me, but wonder who the Quakers will pick up instead.  Greensboro and Methodist seem to be locks for the other two available non-conference spots.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 26, 2014, 09:57:41 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on January 25, 2014, 09:08:42 PM
We understand that's imperative for the AD, but isn't finding a coach just as imperative? Seems like the convention didn't stop other schools from finding a head honcho.

Just checked some dates..
looks like it took E&H 5 weeks to land Newsome
looks like it took MC 7 weeks to land Rader
looks like IF Averett names a coach by the end of this week, it'll be 9 weeks.

Pat, fill us in on other D3 schools that are still coachless.

To the best of my knowledge: Castleton State, Wilkes, Frostburg State, Oberlin, Beloit ...
http://www.d3football.com/notables/coaching-carousel
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 27, 2014, 06:08:46 PM
Some more background I received today. (And not from Danville, Va., so not self-serving propaganda. From someone who was at the NCAA convention.)

QuoteCharles Harris, their former AD, is Executive VP there. I know for a fact that he has his hands all over the coaching search. I saw him at the convention and he said they were "very close" on a new coach. Two days later, I got a text from someone at AU with the list of four finalists.

Those fans who are blaming the AD and Danny (Miller, the VB coach/Assistant AD) couldn't be more off-base. They are moving as fast as Charles wants. If he wanted someone in there before the convention, that would have happened regardless of where Danny was.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 30, 2014, 04:09:45 PM
Averett now has a head man. Congrats to Coach Adams.

http://averettcougars.com/news/2014/1/30/FB_0130140530.aspx
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on January 30, 2014, 11:36:17 PM
just found a couple of mu highlight videos from 2013...what a fun season

highlight video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqAT75K7tk&list=UUvwXDcBHW68FTk3gAKG1dpQ&feature=c4-overview

offensive td's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPT_T1UUhp8&list=UUvwXDcBHW68FTk3gAKG1dpQ&feature=c4-overview

vaughn cross highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T6O_Ubi1Ng&list=UUvwXDcBHW68FTk3gAKG1dpQ&feature=c4-overview

i'm sure nobody else will enjoy them as much as i did, but if you like watching good football, it's worth 15 minutes of your time to watch all 3

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 31, 2014, 01:42:59 AM
I enjoy them. What do you have? 8 months until the start of the '14 season? I'll take any football I can get. Plus, it's always fun to see how other teams perform throughout the season. I think I'll have to wait another month to put MC's highlights on here (still a ways to go until the banquet).

Is MU getting rings? If so, it'd be nice to have a picture of the design. Again, it'll be a while until I can get a design for MC's rings.

Hope all is well, and MU is gearing up for another good year. I'll try to make the game this season in Fayetteville.  We should get together for a pregame beer or coke, whichever is your preference/allowed on campus. It's bound to be another close game in a good series.

(ps. Don't go to a game at E&H with a beer unless you want to hide it. Johnny Campus-Law got on me last season  ;).)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on February 20, 2014, 05:13:13 PM
yesterday was a pretty good day for mu - the largest capital campaign in mu history was announced and over $23 million of the $35 million goal has already been raised

the monarchs are getting a new facility that can be found at http://www.campaignformu.org/athletic-facilities/#football - this should help the monarchs with recruiting and retention!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 20, 2014, 05:35:48 PM
That is pretty big news; good job MU for raising that much already.

Just begs the question:
What's the visiting side going to look like?  ;D

I'm just waiting to hit a $400 million jackpot with a $225 million take home, or whatever they call it. You'll know if it happens when MC has a renovated Cooper Athletic Center, new football stadium, and football field house complete kick@$$ weight room, offices, film rooms...all in the matter of months.
I'd name it something patriotic and cool like
EAST TENNESSEE VETERANS' MEMORIAL STADIUM
and at the entrance I'd have a bronze statue of majestic and powerful bald eagle with olive branches in its talons. Maybe a little Soviet teddy bear in its beak. It's still a work in progress. Suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 01, 2014, 09:20:35 AM
Quote from: narch on February 20, 2014, 05:13:13 PM
yesterday was a pretty good day for mu - the largest capital campaign in mu history was announced and over $23 million of the $35 million goal has already been raised

the monarchs are getting a new facility that can be found at http://www.campaignformu.org/athletic-facilities/#football - this should help the monarchs with recruiting and retention!

That is awesome stuff Narch! Anytime a university has a campaign like that it benefits everyone, mostly the students. CNU just publicly announced yesterday its first ever Comprehensive Campaign. $42 million goal. $32 million raised so far. And yesterday during the event someone gave another $1 million.

A few years ago UVA had a similar campaign. Except in $$$$. Their goal was $3billion and they got it. I was talking to someone in the advancement office at the time, and the pressure was on to get $1million per DAY! Crazy

Anyway, great news for MU. I know you're proud Narch. And rightly so.

Stay tuned within next 10 days for more news.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 01, 2014, 09:49:06 AM
Narch,

I just looked at the link you provided. Impressive. Very nice improvement. When will they be able to start and complete?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on March 03, 2014, 01:23:06 PM
cnu, what do you think of the move to the njac for cnu.  very good conference to be joining with wesley and salisbury.  i am very excited about it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 03, 2014, 03:44:33 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on March 03, 2014, 01:23:06 PM
cnu, what do you think of the move to the njac for cnu.  very good conference to be joining with wesley and salisbury.  i am very excited about it.

I'm very excited also. This is going to be awesome!  Time for one of us to buy beer for the other! I'm looking forward to a Wesley game at CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on March 03, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
that would be another game since they were there a couple of years ago.  will be fun and always enjoy the trip to that area.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Teamski on March 04, 2014, 09:42:03 PM
I was stunned at how impressive the CNU campus looked when Wesley last visited.  What a marked contrast with Wesley's tiny pitch.

-SKi
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on March 04, 2014, 10:02:09 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 01, 2014, 09:49:06 AM
Narch,

I just looked at the link you provided. Impressive. Very nice improvement. When will they be able to start and complete?
it's only $12 million away...we could name it the cnu85 stadium for half that :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 05, 2014, 08:52:15 AM
Quote from: Teamski on March 04, 2014, 09:42:03 PM
I was stunned at how impressive the CNU campus looked when Wesley last visited.  What a marked contrast with Wesley's tiny pitch.

-SKi

It wasn't like that when I was there. But fortunate enough to send my daughter to CNU. Since the current President took over in 1996/7, there have been approx $1.3 billion in capital improvements. More have been approved and are underway. It's fun to watch. Thanks for the kind words. Even more amazing than the facilities is the atmosphere. It is truly energized by some exceptional young people.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 05, 2014, 08:53:06 AM
Quote from: narch on March 04, 2014, 10:02:09 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 01, 2014, 09:49:06 AM
Narch,

I just looked at the link you provided. Impressive. Very nice improvement. When will they be able to start and complete?
it's only $12 million away...we could name it the cnu85 stadium for half that :)

I looked into it. They wanted my $6 million, but the deal broke off when I insisted the name had to have CNU in it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 05, 2014, 08:56:31 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on March 03, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
that would be another game since they were there a couple of years ago.  will be fun and always enjoy the trip to that area.

shhh...I'm trying to forget that game. It was UGLY!!!!! Then the following week I decided to go to Salisbury on my birthday. What could be better than a CNU on my birthday? We were crushed 58-10.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 05, 2014, 07:05:58 PM
85 and Narch.

Hollie Sanders of the Golf Channel would make a great addition to the USASAC :)

I am slammed with snow and I have cabin fever
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 11, 2014, 03:29:15 AM
Here's a nice new video from MC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rgBHLniCSc&list=UUNO18WRbYNdJRUGOue_U9mA
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 17, 2014, 07:46:51 PM
Bad A$$ed 13. I was waiting for the Spartans to roll in
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on March 17, 2014, 07:51:13 PM
All you Captains and Monarchs the SCOTs are saying

MOLON LABE
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 24, 2014, 11:30:03 AM
One more season on this board.....then the Party begins in the East!

It will be fun to have one more year on this board before moving on. It will be interesting in the new conference!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on March 24, 2014, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 24, 2014, 11:30:03 AM
One more season on this board.....then the Party begins in the East!

It will be fun to have one more year on this board before moving on. It will be interesting in the new conference!

Which will make the games that more exciting and I am sure teams will be gunning for CNU knowing this may be the last time they play each other for a while. However, based on CNU geographical location, they may end up playing one of the teams in the playoffs in the future, if CNU wins or receives an at-large bid within the new tough NJAC.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on March 24, 2014, 03:34:32 PM
McMurry hired Sam Ferguson, the Averett AD, to take the AD job that was held by Ron Holmes.

Welcome to Texas and the ASC, Sam.  I think that you will have a great time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 25, 2014, 01:33:12 AM
Finally, here's the 2013 highlight video. Hope yall enjoy it as much as I did...especially narch  ;D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzHQZcgh8Q8&list=UUNO18WRbYNdJRUGOue_U9mA
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on March 25, 2014, 08:58:26 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on March 24, 2014, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 24, 2014, 11:30:03 AM
One more season on this board.....then the Party begins in the East!

It will be fun to have one more year on this board before moving on. It will be interesting in the new conference!

Which will make the games that more exciting and I am sure teams will be gunning for CNU knowing this may be the last time they play each other for a while. However, based on CNU geographical location, they may end up playing one of the teams in the playoffs in the future, if CNU wins or receives an at-large bid within the new tough NJAC.

That would be awesome....especially when considering the NJAC will have Wesley, Salisbury, Rowan et al.  That conference is going to be CRAZY! I predict CNU will become a much better football program and yet have fewer playoff appearances!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on March 26, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 24, 2014, 11:30:03 AM
One more season on this board.....then the Party begins in the East!

It will be fun to have one more year on this board before moving on. It will be interesting in the new conference!

There's no reason you can't keep on visiting this board after the move. You've got plenty of history here, and you know all the programs involved.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 26, 2014, 08:23:00 PM
MC's Back to Back USAC Championship Football team was presented with this year's rings earlier today.
Here's a photo from MC Athletics/Eric Etchison (SID) on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=638902088601&set=pcb.638902607561&type=1&theater
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on April 02, 2014, 01:36:32 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on March 25, 2014, 01:33:12 AM
Finally, here's the 2013 highlight video. Hope yall enjoy it as much as I did...especially narch  ;D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzHQZcgh8Q8&list=UUNO18WRbYNdJRUGOue_U9mA
i'm all for highlight video's, but this one takes a long time to get going...and there isn't enough green & gold for my taste :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on April 16, 2014, 12:31:30 PM
Happy to see Huntingdon and B-SC are facing off against each other again. That seemed like a logical rivalry and it was odd to skip it last year. Sadly the game is the same day as the W&L at Sewanee game, my biennial opportunity to see the Generals play without having to drive at least 6-8 hours. Not sure which Huntingdon game I'll get to this year, but if they are in the mix I'll get to one. B-SC's home schedule looks a little lacklustre and the only game that I have interest in will be when Centre comes to town since they are a long-time W&L opponent that I haven't seen since I was in school.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 16, 2014, 02:19:15 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 16, 2014, 12:31:30 PM
Happy to see Huntingdon and B-SC are facing off against each other again. That seemed like a logical rivalry and it was odd to skip it last year. Sadly the game is the same day as the W&L at Sewanee game, my biennial opportunity to see the Generals play without having to drive at least 6-8 hours. Not sure which Huntingdon game I'll get to this year, but if they are in the mix I'll get to one. B-SC's home schedule looks a little lacklustre and the only game that I have interest in will be when Centre comes to town since they are a long-time W&L opponent that I haven't seen since I was in school.
Yep, glad to see this one back on the schedule. I also like that it looks like it is set for a 6 PM kick-off. First home night game for HC should be a fun one. CNU later in the year is also supposed to be at night.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 21, 2014, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on March 26, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 24, 2014, 11:30:03 AM
One more season on this board.....then the Party begins in the East!

It will be fun to have one more year on this board before moving on. It will be interesting in the new conference!

There's no reason you can't keep on visiting this board after the move. You've got plenty of history here, and you know all the programs involved.

True enough!

I just looked at CNU's schedule. 8 conf games. 2 tough non conf games.....and a bye week on Nov 15th!! 10 straight games to start the season! uh oh!! That's tough!! 2 long road trips to Maryville and Montgomery!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on April 22, 2014, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on January 23, 2014, 08:10:36 PM
After the fanfare they had when they brought in the new AD, I'd figure she'd be ready to get a head coach for the football team as quickly as possible and make a statement in her tenure quickly. I mean, come on now. Football programs can easily hold 5-10% of total enrollment at USAC schools, if not more.

Get it together, Averett.

Don't get on here as much as I use to....however I have spoken to some former players and some that are close to the school. Regardless of what has been said or hasn't been said, (mostly of what hasn't been said), there were issues from within and enough blame to go around the entire program and school admin. On a good note, they have got a new coach and those I have spoken with are hoping things will turn around and AU will become competitive once again. I will say this, I agree with what was said earlier on this board, Dunlevy was and is a class act and the players respected him. He made the difference for my son and I will always have admiration and respect for him. Lets hope some of the AU faithful will find their way back and support the program and hopefully the school can get it together soon.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on May 15, 2014, 03:47:52 PM
Maryville top program in USA South again next season ?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 15, 2014, 04:57:22 PM
I hope. Lost a couple key guys but I expect the younger guys to fill in nicely. This coaching staff can recruit. I see 5 of the 9 teams being contenders this year. MC has a fight on their hands
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on May 26, 2014, 10:53:16 PM
It will come down to LC and Maryville...LC is loaded on offense.  It just depends on how Coach Chambers does with the defense. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 29, 2014, 08:28:09 AM
CNU is on the move again. After losing a great coach in Davis, who called the plays, we bring in a new coach with tremendous experience and a Champion. Looking forward to see what impact he will have. I'm confident there will be a huge positive impact.

http://cnusports.com/news/2014/5/28/FB_0528142955.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2014/5/28/FB_0528142955.aspx)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on May 29, 2014, 08:32:38 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on May 29, 2014, 08:28:09 AM
CNU is on the move again. After losing a great coach in Davis, who called the plays, we bring in a new coach with tremendous experience and a Champion. Looking forward to see what impact he will have. I'm confident there will be a huge positive impact.

http://cnusports.com/news/2014/5/28/FB_0528142955.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2014/5/28/FB_0528142955.aspx)

85, how have you been. I tried to look u up at the CNU/Averett game this past year, however too many people and the place has gotten bigger. Sounds like CNU will have another power house this comming year. When are you guys gonna move up to another level and give everyone else a chance. LOL ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 29, 2014, 09:32:44 AM
Hey Kickerdad! Doing well......moving up? hah!!! hopefully never!. Look me up after the 2015 season, our first in the power conference NJAC, and then ask about giving others a chance!. That conference is going to be insane!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on May 29, 2014, 09:35:25 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on May 29, 2014, 09:32:44 AM
Hey Kickerdad! Doing well......moving up? hah!!! hopefully never!. Look me up after the 2015 season, our first in the power conference NJAC, and then ask about giving others a chance!. That conference is going to be insane!

Didn't know you were leaving the USA South.....should have guessed since the Girls Softball is playing in another conference now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 29, 2014, 10:32:39 AM
Quote from: kickerdad on May 29, 2014, 09:35:25 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on May 29, 2014, 09:32:44 AM
Hey Kickerdad! Doing well......moving up? hah!!! hopefully never!. Look me up after the 2015 season, our first in the power conference NJAC, and then ask about giving others a chance!. That conference is going to be insane!

Didn't know you were leaving the USA South.....should have guessed since the Girls Softball is playing in another conference now.

Here is the scoop. CNU moved this year in all sports to the CAC, except football. This explains the football move...

http://d3football.com/notables/2014/03/njac-goes-big-for-2015 (http://d3football.com/notables/2014/03/njac-goes-big-for-2015)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 30, 2014, 08:22:19 PM
I just listened to an archived radio interview from a local sports radio station in Maryville with Coach Rader-- says 15 Texas kids are in this year's incoming class. 15? From Texas?

Guess some guys want to know what mountain life is all about.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on June 02, 2014, 05:11:57 PM
15 kids from Texas. Interesting. Didn't know MC had a recruiting budget large enough to recruit that far away. Lots of money for flights. hotels, meals, etc. Sounds like the administration is really putting some $$$$ into the program, which is great. Hopefully we can play each other 3rd Saturday in Nov. again this year as I certainly enjoyed last years game. Very close, well played game; either team could have won.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 06, 2014, 11:27:31 AM
Has anyone heard any thing about Mike Dunlevy. Has he gotten on with another team or has he retired from football altogether?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 08, 2014, 09:53:21 AM
I hope he lands/landed another job in football in some capacity. For a few months I had been checking FootballScoop every once in a while, but hadn't found anything. I think I'll look again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on June 08, 2014, 03:07:47 PM
I chatted with him briefly at the Stagg Bowl and he was definitely trying to remain in coaching. I think he was targeting D-II coordinator positions at the time.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 09, 2014, 10:45:18 PM
congrats to max reber on winning the usa south's don scalf award...pretty big honor as the student-athlete of the year in the conference...story here (http://www.mumonarchs.com/news/2014/6/9/GEN_0609144055.aspx)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on June 10, 2014, 08:47:23 AM
Congrats to Mr. Reber. In addition to being an outstanding player, sounds like he is a solid citizen and knows how to give back. I wish him the best going forward. Wish I had the opportunity to watch him play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 11, 2014, 08:17:01 AM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on June 10, 2014, 08:47:23 AM
Congrats to Mr. Reber. In addition to being an outstanding player, sounds like he is a solid citizen and knows how to give back. I wish him the best going forward. Wish I had the opportunity to watch him play.
maybe you'll get to see him play in november...a tigers vs. monarchs first-round match-up would not be shocking to me :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on June 11, 2014, 08:55:07 AM
I hope it happens. Both teams need to play well to win respective conferences. Time will tell.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 11, 2014, 09:35:37 AM
Now, narch. I know you've seen the schedule. Your boys have to get past MC the last week of the year.  ;D

But you're right. A first round trip for Methodist would not come as a shock to me. Or probably anybody in the region..

Maryville, Methodist, CNU, LaGrange, Huntingdon all have a pretty good chance winning it all this year. This is going to be a fun year, especially with 8 conference games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 11, 2014, 11:01:59 AM
Huntingdon's first two conference games are @Methodist and @Maryville. Better have our 'A' game dialed in early or we could be behind the 8-ball quick.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 12, 2014, 03:22:10 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on June 11, 2014, 09:35:37 AM
Now, narch. I know you've seen the schedule. Your boys have to get past MC the last week of the year.  ;D
every conference win or loss counts equally, so i've got 8 dates circled on the schedule - that particular game is the last of the 8...there are at least 7 games that are more important right now :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 19, 2014, 05:47:08 PM
Media Day is set for July 28 at Maryville College. Not sure what to think of this, really. I like that MC is hosting because there's a $46 million building to utilize, but as I said last year I'd like to see it hosted by some of the newer members to see what kind of facilities they have.

Any thoughts on a preseason poll?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 20, 2014, 11:10:43 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on June 19, 2014, 05:47:08 PM
Media Day is set for July 28 at Maryville College. Not sure what to think of this, really. I like that MC is hosting because there's a $46 million building to utilize, but as I said last year I'd like to see it hosted by some of the newer members to see what kind of facilities they have.

Any thoughts on a preseason poll?

What the hey - I will get this party started...my preseason poll....with about 2 minutes of research and totally forgetting who lost how many key players etc....just to get the conversation rolling and then I will reserve the right to change! hahaha!

First place votes in ()

CNU (3)
Methodist (3)
Maryville (2)
Huntingdon (1)
LaGrange
NC Wesleyan
Ferrum
Greensboro
Averett

my minor analysis...... The top 4 teams listed have at least as many wins EACH in 2013 as the bottom 4 COMBINED!! LaGrange is middle of the pack but can make some noise. If I wasn't a Captain, I wouldn't put CNU first simply because they have road games at Huntingdon and Maryville. Also CNU's bye week is week 11.  No bye week means no time to rest and recover from nagging injuries. Might be a factor in the last few games of the schedule.  Go figure...parting shot from the USA South?

So there's my nonsense...who is next?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 22, 2014, 08:19:47 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 20, 2014, 11:10:43 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on June 19, 2014, 05:47:08 PM
Media Day is set for July 28 at Maryville College. Not sure what to think of this, really. I like that MC is hosting because there's a $46 million building to utilize, but as I said last year I'd like to see it hosted by some of the newer members to see what kind of facilities they have.

Any thoughts on a preseason poll?

What the hey - I will get this party started...my preseason poll....with about 2 minutes of research and totally forgetting who lost how many key players etc....just to get the conversation rolling and then I will reserve the right to change! hahaha!

First place votes in ()

CNU (3)
Methodist (3)
Maryville (2)
Huntingdon (1)
LaGrange
NC Wesleyan
Ferrum
Greensboro
Averett

my minor analysis...... The top 4 teams listed have at least as many wins EACH in 2013 as the bottom 4 COMBINED!! LaGrange is middle of the pack but can make some noise. If I wasn't a Captain, I wouldn't put CNU first simply because they have road games at Huntingdon and Maryville. Also CNU's bye week is week 11.  No bye week means no time to rest and recover from nagging injuries. Might be a factor in the last few games of the schedule.  Go figure...parting shot from the USA South?

So there's my nonsense...who is next?

I agree with your bottom three teams completely.  NCW and LaGrange, especially LC, have tons of experience coming back.  LaGrange should have had a better record than what they had last year in my opinion.  Huntingdon lost quite a few kids, but they are Huntingdon so you know they will have the guys needed to step in and do the job.  Maryville lost a few guys, but I really think they can rebound for this year, even at RB with the loss of Felder.  CNU is CNU. I don't think in the world of USA South sports CNU can do any wrong. They will be strong per usual. Methodist is going to be strong again, probably stronger.

This year is going to have another co-championship or tri-championship.  For what the conference is, this is going to be this strongest year, top-to-almost-bottom, we've probably ever seen.  Competition within the conference is going to be something fun to watch.

1. Methodist
2. Maryville
3.CNU
4. Huntingdon
5.LaGrange (Dark horse of the year. They could easily lead the pack this year. I'm calling it now.)
6. NCWC
7. Ferrum
8. Greensboro
9. Averett
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 23, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
narch, posted this message for you on Friday on the ODAC board - thought there was a better chance you'd see it if I reposted on USASAC:

narch, I wish MU's QB Reber would hurry up and graduate.  lol  He put up some big numbers in last fall's 41-34 win over the Quakers in Fayetteville.  I'm looking forward to another competitive game in Greensboro on September 13.  I checked the scores a few minutes ago and didn't realize the Quakers had lost to the Monarchs the last five seasons.  GC should have a good team again this year (and I know MU will also), so I'm hoping for a different result.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 26, 2014, 01:19:15 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 23, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
narch, posted this message for you on Friday on the ODAC board - thought there was a better chance you'd see it if I reposted on USASAC:

narch, I wish MU's QB Reber would hurry up and graduate.  lol  He put up some big numbers in last fall's 41-34 win over the Quakers in Fayetteville.  I'm looking forward to another competitive game in Greensboro on September 13.  I checked the scores a few minutes ago and didn't realize the Quakers had lost to the Monarchs the last five seasons.  GC should have a good team again this year (and I know MU will also), so I'm hoping for a different result.

here is my response, posted on the odac board (where it is sure to draw plenty of ire from the nash nance fans :))

Quote from: narch on June 26, 2014, 01:17:16 PMfortunately for the monarch fans, you get to watch the best d3 qb in the south play in the green & gold for another year :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 26, 2014, 05:59:51 PM
MC Football is now on twitter (like everything else nowadays)-- when they get 1,000 followers they will unveil the new helmets for next season. So, in the spirit of selfishness, if you're on Twitter I ask..no, BEG...you to follow @MCScotsFootball. I've known this information for 5 minutes and I already can't stand it. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NEW LIDS LOOK LIKE.  8-)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 26, 2014, 09:19:44 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on June 26, 2014, 06:01:36 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on June 26, 2014, 05:59:51 PM
MC Football is now on twitter (like everything else nowadays)-- when they get 1,000 followers they will unveil the new helmets for next season. So, in the spirit of selfishness, if you're on Twitter I ask..no, BEG...you to follow @MCScotsFootball. I've known this information for 5 minutes and I already can't stand it. I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NEW LIDS LOOK LIKE.  8-)

They have a combination of white, gold, and green.

Don't the new 100 dollar bills have some purple on them too?  I wouldn't know. I'm paying off student loans...Benjamins are hard to come by  :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on June 27, 2014, 03:49:01 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on June 22, 2014, 08:19:47 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 20, 2014, 11:10:43 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on June 19, 2014, 05:47:08 PM
Media Day is set for July 28 at Maryville College. Not sure what to think of this, really. I like that MC is hosting because there's a $46 million building to utilize, but as I said last year I'd like to see it hosted by some of the newer members to see what kind of facilities they have.

Any thoughts on a preseason poll?

What the hey - I will get this party started...my preseason poll....with about 2 minutes of research and totally forgetting who lost how many key players etc....just to get the conversation rolling and then I will reserve the right to change! hahaha!

First place votes in ()

CNU (3)
Methodist (3)
Maryville (2)
Huntingdon (1)
LaGrange
NC Wesleyan
Ferrum
Greensboro
Averett

my minor analysis...... The top 4 teams listed have at least as many wins EACH in 2013 as the bottom 4 COMBINED!! LaGrange is middle of the pack but can make some noise. If I wasn't a Captain, I wouldn't put CNU first simply because they have road games at Huntingdon and Maryville. Also CNU's bye week is week 11.  No bye week means no time to rest and recover from nagging injuries. Might be a factor in the last few games of the schedule.  Go figure...parting shot from the USA South?

So there's my nonsense...who is next?

I agree with your bottom three teams completely.  NCW and LaGrange, especially LC, have tons of experience coming back.  LaGrange should have had a better record than what they had last year in my opinion.  Huntingdon lost quite a few kids, but they are Huntingdon so you know they will have the guys needed to step in and do the job.  Maryville lost a few guys, but I really think they can rebound for this year, even at RB with the loss of Felder.  CNU is CNU. I don't think in the world of USA South sports CNU can do any wrong. They will be strong per usual. Methodist is going to be strong again, probably stronger.

This year is going to have another co-championship or tri-championship.  For what the conference is, this is going to be this strongest year, top-to-almost-bottom, we've probably ever seen.  Competition within the conference is going to be something fun to watch.

1. Methodist
2. Maryville
3.CNU
4. Huntingdon
5.LaGrange (Dark horse of the year. They could easily lead the pack this year. I'm calling it now.)
6. NCWC
7. Ferrum
8. Greensboro
9. Averett

Maybe since AU has gotten the new field and a new stadium is schedule for the next year, they may be able to attract some good talent. At least with the new field you won't be playing in mud up to your ankles if it rains. Hopefully this new coach will be able to kick start them and they can get 2 or 3 wins from somewhere. Chris has been gone 4 years now and I only saw them play one time last year at CNU. Very small even in the line.

FYI, Chris got married this past Saturday. I now have a daughter to spoil rotten.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on June 28, 2014, 08:37:42 AM
Quote from: narch on June 26, 2014, 01:19:15 PM
Quote from: hasanova on June 23, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
narch, posted this message for you on Friday on the ODAC board - thought there was a better chance you'd see it if I reposted on USASAC:

narch, I wish MU's QB Reber would hurry up and graduate.  lol  He put up some big numbers in last fall's 41-34 win over the Quakers in Fayetteville.  I'm looking forward to another competitive game in Greensboro on September 13.  I checked the scores a few minutes ago and didn't realize the Quakers had lost to the Monarchs the last five seasons.  GC should have a good team again this year (and I know MU will also), so I'm hoping for a different result.

here is my response, posted on the odac board (where it is sure to draw plenty of ire from the nash nance fans :))

Quote from: narch on June 26, 2014, 01:17:16 PMfortunately for the monarch fans, you get to watch the best d3 qb in the south play in the green & gold for another year :)

If you realized how little we thought of you, you would not care so much about what we think. Why do you care so much about HSC and their QB?  Maybe it so you can distract your friends on this board with the holes MU need to fill this fall.

6 Offensive starters from the last game of 2013 might be returning - 4 OL, a WR and your QB.
4 Defensive starters from the last game of 2013 might be returning. A defense that gave up nearly 400 points and ranked 217 out of 242 last season. 

With attrition rates at Methodist being what they are - only 1 senior on last years roster compared to 57 freshmen, I doubt even your coach knows who is coming back until practice starts. Each year at HSC we talk about who graduated out of the program not who flunked and/or dropped out of it.

Last years Monarchs won 8 games but 6 games by a TD or less.  So don't get too cocky with 7 new starters coming back to one of the worst defenses in the nation. How bad were this year's potential starters that last year they were back-ups to that defense?   I think HASA has mentioned Guilford has 18 starters returning. My money is on Guilford.

Over a 2 year period (years Reber and Nance have started) HSC has gone 8/1 against MU common opponents and Nance has had 34 TDs with 9 turnovers.  MU on the other hand has gone 6/3 against common HSC opponents and Reber has had 16 TDs an 8 turnovers. Nance might have had even better stats but he did not play the 4th quarter in 4 of these games.

Nance has an outright Conference Title, a playoff win, 2 All-conference recognitions, FIRST team and Player of the Year in the South recognition, and an Honorable Mention All-American. 

No one but you could possibly think that Reber has had a better career to this point.  Reber and Nance are both great but Nance is playing at a higher level. 

This year why not celebrate your team and not worry so much about HSC. You guys won't have to ever worry about playing them. I see a 6-4 team from your guys this fall. So try to enjoy having back to back winning seasons for the first time in 9 years. I really think that would be really special- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 28, 2014, 11:09:10 AM
Ouch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 28, 2014, 03:39:27 PM
Yes. The HSC fans are really feeling their oats already  this year. It will be interesting to see if the team will respond.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 28, 2014, 04:32:07 PM
I'd be interesting in seeing how a dual conference pick 'ems boards would turn out this year...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on June 28, 2014, 05:37:36 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 28, 2014, 03:39:27 PM
Yes. The HSC fans are really feeling their oats already  this year. It will be interesting to see if the team will respond.

What does that mean?  Feeling their oats?  Really?  JK, I'm sure you've forgotten more about D3 football than I will ever know - but gimme a break.  You've been reading and responding to my rants for years. How does this post come across any more or less arrogant than any other? ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 28, 2014, 06:06:23 PM
Feeling your oats doesn't refer to arrogance, it refers to feeling more energetic and behaving more excited. It's an old term from horse racing. And I think it is somewhat justified as I have referred to the possibility that this could be a special year for HSC. But I think the term does justice to the little extra oomph and combativeness I feel like I'm seeing. And no, I don't really think it is a bad thing. But this is a better topic for the ODAC board as the season gets closer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on June 28, 2014, 07:56:15 PM
I spoke to Coach Harper the other day, and he shared this story with me. I thought I would post the article.  Very Sad.

http://news.fredericksburg.com/hsfb/2014/06/06/high-school/
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 28, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on June 28, 2014, 08:37:42 AM
If you realized how little we thought of you, you would not care so much about what we think.
that's a lot of words for someone who doesn't care :)

such a predictable response, too

i still think reber is better than nance...

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on June 29, 2014, 08:11:06 AM
Quote from: narch on June 28, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on June 28, 2014, 08:37:42 AM
If you realized how little we thought of you, you would not care so much about what we think.
that's a lot of words for someone who doesn't care :)

such a predictable response, too

i still think reber is better than nance...

That's cool.  You should - he's your QB. I assume you like him better than most QBs in the nation. But you never mention any other QBs in the same sentence as Reber except for Nance.  How is it that the QB for another team, in another state, on a team MU has never played, a player you have NEVER seen play, seems to ALWAYS be on your mind? 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 29, 2014, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on June 29, 2014, 08:11:06 AMBut you never mention any other QBs in the same sentence as Reber except for Nance.  How is it that the QB for another team, in another state, on a team MU has never played, a player you have NEVER seen play, seems to ALWAYS be on your mind?
well...let's see...we are talking about arguably the two best qb's in the south region, and we're posting on a message boards frequented by fans of teams in the region...makes sense that we would compare the two

and i knew it would get your panties bunched up...this board has been a bit dry this summer, so i figured you'd bite...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on June 29, 2014, 07:47:22 PM
That's your best answer ever.  But when you compare there's really no comparison.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 29, 2014, 09:48:16 PM
Here's a comparison.
Huntingdon beat HSC with Nance at QB and lost to MU with Reber at QB. Therefore Reber>Nance.

:P
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 29, 2014, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 29, 2014, 09:48:16 PM
Here's a comparison.
Huntingdon beat HSC with Nance at QB and lost to MU with Reber at QB. Therefore Reber>Nance.

:P

But Maryville beat MU with Reber at QB and lost to HSC with Nance at QB. Therefore Nance>Reber. HA!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 30, 2014, 11:49:56 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on June 29, 2014, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 29, 2014, 09:48:16 PM
Here's a comparison.
Huntingdon beat HSC with Nance at QB and lost to MU with Reber at QB. Therefore Reber>Nance.

:P

But Maryville beat MU with Reber at QB and lost to HSC with Nance at QB. Therefore Nance>Reber. HA!
Yeah, I did leave out that we beat HSC in '12 and lost to MU in '13.
Our defense in '12 >>> our defense in '13.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on June 30, 2014, 12:27:03 PM
Old argument Reber vs. Nance. It appears those in the know felt Nance was better in 2012 (post season honors). We all have personal opinions. I'll give to Narch that he firmly believes Reber is the better of the two. I believe is few is a little tainted (should be) in that he has never seen Nanch play/huge MU fan. So I'm discounting his opinion on the subject but appreciate his passion. TigerFan gives you good advise, MU cannot win ANY championship w/o a good defensive unit. Until that happens, MU will always be looking up at the leaders. That said, good luck to you, Reber and MU in 2014. My prediction GC 41 MU 28 !!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 30, 2014, 01:22:03 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on June 29, 2014, 07:47:22 PM
But when you compare there's really no comparison.
so true...

at the end of the regular season, I compiled these stats:

reber: 3,642 total yards (led the nation); nance: 3,320 total yards
reber: 8.08 yds/play; nance: 6.96 yds/play
reber: 2,998 pass yds; nance: 2,779 pass yds
reber:  66.1% completion rate; nance: 64.4% completion rate
reber: 26 pass td's (8.2% of throws); nance: 20 pass td's (5.7% of throws)
reber: 6 interceptions (1.9% of throws); nance: 13 interceptions (3.7% of throws)
reber: 9.49 yards/pass attempt; nance: 7.98 yards/pass attempt
reber: 644 rush yds; nance: 541 rush yds
reber: 4.77 yards/carry; nance: 4.21 yards/carry
reber: 4 rush td; nance: 16 rush td (look a category that nance won...how novel :))
reber: 8 regular season team wins; nance: 8 regular season team wins
reber: 0 post-season wins; nance: 1 post-season win

reber threw deeper down field (yards/attempt and yards/completion), yet completed a higher percentage of passes (completion rate) with a lower percentage of those passes going to the other team (interception rate) and more td's in fewer passes (td rate)...that defies logic unless he's simply a better passer

reber ran for more yards with a higher per carry average...he's simply a better runner (although admittedly not as effective around the goal-line)

so let's review...there are 12 major statistical categories above (and I would encourage you to find other metrics and compare, if you'd like), and reber led nance in 9 of the 12 and they had one tie...9 for reber, 2 for nance, 1 tie...there really IS no comparison - thanks for pointing that out :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on June 30, 2014, 02:16:13 PM
What does the fan base from Maryville College say ? The Scots played against both teams last year. If their unbiased opinion supports yours I;ll give it some credit but as I stated last week; I've not seen another D3 QB I'd take in lieu of Nash Nance and HSC has had some pretty damn good ones and have played against some really good ones as well.

GC can also weigh in one this subject. What say you Hasa ???

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 30, 2014, 02:38:46 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on June 30, 2014, 02:16:13 PM
What does the fan base from Maryville College say ? The Scots played against both teams last year. If their unbiased opinion supports yours I;ll give it some credit but as I stated last week; I've not seen another D3 QB I'd take in lieu of Nash Nance and HSC has had some pretty damn good ones and have played against some really good ones as well.

GC can also weigh in one this subject. What say you Hasa ???

It's a tough one to make a decision on, in my opinion. Reber can do it all. He can run, pass, and probably do your taxes if you challenge him.  The guy is a competitor and never quits.  Nance has the uncoachables: size, arm strength, and the brain needed to run an offense (And a Marty Favret offense at that...).

Reber is an athlete. If MU needed him to play receiver he could. If they needed him at RB, he could. I don't think Nance could play any other position. (Well, maybe TE.) But just because he probably couldnt play any other position, doesnt mean he isnt the better QB. Look at Peyton..

Nance is a perfect fit for HSC. They don't need a highly mobile QB.
Reber is a perfect fit for MU. They need him to be mobile.
These are proven facts.

If Maryville was out of a QB in the offense they run and we could trade for one, I'd want to have Reber.
I say that, but I think Nance is the better QB. Not by much though.  It's kind of like choosing between Lincoln and FDR on who was the better war time president. Does it really matter? No.  They are the 2 best PRESEASON QBs in the Southeast, flat out. They better watch out though because the kid down at LaGrange can sling it..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 30, 2014, 03:19:24 PM
+K to Scots13. Then again, his comments echo my thoughts as well. The only exception I'd say is that Nance is pretty mobile. He's not as mobile as Reber, but he isn't exactly a pocket sitter either. Playing either one is a daunting task, but I'd have to say that with Nance's extra weapons I'd rather face MU than HSC. Sadly that's not going to happen for my Generals!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on June 30, 2014, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on June 30, 2014, 02:38:46 PMThey better watch out though because the kid down at LaGrange can sling it..
i like pettinger better...that kid is tough as nails, a serious competitor and is sneaky athletic - i think i'd take him over any of the other qb's in the conference (other than jordan vann) if mu didn't have reber, because i think he could run the mu system - while i think graham craig is outstanding, i wasn't impressed with his arm strength...i don't know if a single ball in the game vs. mu went more than 10 to 12 yards beyond the line of scrimmage - from the game footage i've seen of nance, that's my biggest critique of him, as well...for as much of the short passing game as they run, it seems like he should be more accurate and complete a higher percentage - i haven't charted any of them, but i'd be willing to bet an insignificant sum that reber has a higher percentage of balls traveling more than 20 yards in the air than either of them, yet his completion percentage is higher than both

the usasac was blessed to have some really strong qb play last year - the two-headed beast at huntingdon (those 2 qb's combined for 64.7% completion rate, 3,447 yards, 32 td's and 7 ints...crazy numbers), graham craig at lagrange, reber, pettinger...heck, jordan vann at mu could start at qb for most d3 programs - the kid at greensboro had a nice year and really cut down on his turnovers...should be a fun season to watch if you like offense, but the dc's in the league have got to be having sleepless nights...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on June 30, 2014, 05:35:59 PM
Ok Scots13 says both are very good but Nance is the better QB, but not by much.

Long & short of it is this; Narch will continue to think Reber is the best, and he should think that way, others will have a slightly different opinion, but at the end of the day, the QB position will be judged on individual performance AND conference championships AND playoff appearances. Should that be the case ? Don't know that answer but Nance playing for HSC has the program working in his favor for post season awards, Reber not so much to this point. Not saying that is right, but it is true. Team success has something to do with individual postseason awards. Evidently, trying to make a case that either of these guys is better than the other is probably a waste of time as they are both very good. A vote will be cast for both regional and national honors, I'd say the people voting know more than I do by a long shot. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: sigma one on June 30, 2014, 07:09:49 PM
I am looking forward to watching the Nance to Walker combination when the southern Tigers roll into Crawfordsville on  September 6.   I am curious about the Favret offense.  Several posters have mentioned his creativity.  What can the Little Giants expect out of the HSC offense?  Unpredictability, certainly, I'm surmising. 
     By the way, Wabash returns 9 or 10 defensive starters, depending on how one counts.  The entire defensive backfield returns (minus a safety who started most of the time, but not always; hence the 9 or 10 returners), and Cody Buresh was a first-team AA last year as a LB or rush end, whichever you want to pick.
     I watched the Linfield game and was very impressed with the HSC effort.  Both HSC and Wabash should be at the top of their respective conferences.  As the season nears, I'm sure we will see plenty of details on the NCAC and ODAC  boards. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 30, 2014, 11:45:08 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on June 30, 2014, 02:16:13 PM
What does the fan base from Maryville College say ? The Scots played against both teams last year. If their unbiased opinion supports yours I;ll give it some credit but as I stated last week; I've not seen another D3 QB I'd take in lieu of Nash Nance and HSC has had some pretty damn good ones and have played against some really good ones as well.

GC can also weigh in one this subject. What say you Hasa ???
I've been a Guilford fan for a long time, so I've been forced to learn humility.  It's best to wait until after the game.  lol  I do like Guilford's chances this fall ... Guilford could have won last season's game in Fayetteville.  Reber's good, but I don't like him better than Pawlowski.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 01, 2014, 08:19:12 AM
Quote from: hasanova on June 30, 2014, 11:45:08 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on June 30, 2014, 02:16:13 PM
What does the fan base from Maryville College say ? The Scots played against both teams last year. If their unbiased opinion supports yours I;ll give it some credit but as I stated last week; I've not seen another D3 QB I'd take in lieu of Nash Nance and HSC has had some pretty damn good ones and have played against some really good ones as well.

GC can also weigh in one this subject. What say you Hasa ???
I've been a Guilford fan for a long time, so I've been forced to learn humility.  It's best to wait until after the game.  lol  I do like Guilford's chances this fall ... Guilford could have won last season's game in Fayetteville.  Reber's good, but I don't like him better than Pawlowski.

Sweet baby Jesus.  ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on July 01, 2014, 09:11:26 AM
Sigma One

Unpredictable is a starting point in an effort to explain HSC's offense. You indicated you watched the Linfield game so you have a feel for how Coach Favret calls the game. Some very talented players and when the offense gets in a rythm most defenses are going to struggle to stop them.  Like Wabash, HSC returns most of the defense (8 starters) and the defense was pretty good in their own right. I'm looking forward to the game and the opportunity to see how our Tigers do on the road against a quality program. I have no expectations but hope to see a really good football game in game one. Either way, I think the game will help prepare both teams for the remainder of their schedule.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 02, 2014, 02:29:50 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on June 30, 2014, 05:35:59 PMI'd say the people voting know more than I do by a long shot.
yet even you were surprised by the vote :)

Quote from: tigerfanalso on December 11, 2013, 12:01:18 PM
I was surprised to learn of Nash's selection as well, simply because of the turnovers.

personally, i think the people voting base a lot of their opinion on playoffs and reputation...i think that's why the vast majority of those awards go players whose teams are in the playoffs - just look at the wr awards...cross was 3rd team all-region with 104.0 yds/gm, 18 td's (in 10 games) and 15.5 ypc, but two of the guys above him as 1st and 2nd team all-region had significantly lower numbers but played in the playoffs (95.5 ypg, 11 td's in 11 games, 11.5 ypc for the first-teamer and 87.5 yds/gm, 13 td's in 13 games and 14.6 ypc for the 2nd team player) - both came into the season with high expectations and delivered very strong seasons, but neither had a better individual season than vaughn cross (or perhaps even dexter russell, from greensboro)

i understand why reputation and playoffs are important...it's impossible to see everyone play...but that doesn't make the selection correct - when i start seeing awards going to guys who are statistically more deserving rather than (largely) those whose teams make the playoffs, i'll concede that those voting know more than i do - actually, i'll concede right now that they know more than i do, but i will also say that there is (natural and understood) bias in the voting, just as i have (natural and understood) bias toward guys who play for the school i root for
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on July 02, 2014, 05:01:36 PM
It's hard to get a lot of individual accolades if you play for a losing team.  Often a team, such as Greensboro, is forced to pass a lot because they get down big ... and early, so voters may feel as though it skews the results.  Even a kicker won't get much recognition unless his success is something universal such as average yards per punt or FG percentage.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 02, 2014, 05:04:59 PM
Even if there is such a thing as All World Cup team, the USA Goalkeeper probably would not be selected.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on July 02, 2014, 05:36:42 PM
Narch I've got to hand it to you, you will beat a drum TO DEATH. Don't know what you do for a living but if you're not in sales or marketing, you should be. The MVP in the Super Bowl always comes from the winning team, etc, etc. That has always been the case and will not likely change in my lifetime. If you want Reber to be named first team all conference, region, all-American and anything else, MU must win the conference and advance (most of the time). Same holds true for HSC/Nance.
 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on July 02, 2014, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: narch on September 28, 2013, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on September 28, 2013, 04:46:16 PMI do however debate the ability of anyone to judge/evaluate the talents of any player "sight unseen".
these are my last words on this subject

Last words.  Really?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on July 03, 2014, 12:14:17 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 02, 2014, 05:04:59 PM
Even if there is such a thing as All World Cup team, the USA Goalkeeper probably would not be selected.

With an unprecedented SIXTEEN saves, Tim Howard would have been selected despite USA losing.  If he had not been there, USA would have lost about 5-0 in regulation.  He was amazing - arguably the best WC game any player at any position has had in living memory.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 03, 2014, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on July 02, 2014, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: narch on September 28, 2013, 10:49:00 PM
these are my last words on this subject
Last words.  Really?

Quote from: narch on September 28, 2013, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on September 28, 2013, 04:46:16 PMI do however debate the ability of anyone to judge/evaluate the talents of any player "sight unseen".
these are my last words on this subject - i don't have to see a player to get a picture of his ability...i've read all of the posts about him on these boards, most from people who have seen him play (and most which question his ability to be an sec qb), i've talked to coaches and former coaches who have seen him in person and on film and i've seen the numbers he has put up on the d3 level...most importantly, i've seen the fact that he isn't on a d1 (or sec) roster

the sec is a high reward/high consequence league...those coaches have plenty of incentive to make sure their 85 scholarships are being given to guys who can play - if any of the 4 sec teams that offered him in high school thought he could help them, i believe he would have been offered by them when he left ut - last i checked, vandy was a pretty good place to get an education, certainly above the level of any odac school in terms of national academic reputation...he could choose vandy and still be choosing to get an education - if he's good enough to start at the majority of d1 programs as you say and is a legit sec qb as you imply, why isn't he at a place like vandy? let's take a step down from the sec...why isn't he at a place like duke or wake forest or northwestern or furman or w&m or richmond...all really good schools where an sec caliber qb could get a great education AND not have to pay for it? the likely answer is that none of those coaches thought he could help them...if almost every d1 coach felt he wasn't good enough to play for them, i don't have to see him play to know he isn't an sec qb...i trust those coaches and their judgement

HSCTiger fan - a little context is always helpful, so i provided it above...in september we were discussing nash nance as a legitimate, viable d1/sec quarterback...that's a bit different from comparing his 2013 season with that of max reber - i don't believe i've said anything more about nance's legitimacy as a d1/sec qb, but feel free to pull up all of my posts and quote it if you do find one
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 03, 2014, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on July 02, 2014, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: narch on September 28, 2013, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on September 28, 2013, 04:46:16 PMI do however debate the ability of anyone to judge/evaluate the talents of any player "sight unseen".
these are my last words on this subject

Last words.  Really?

Wow -- gotta flag you for quoting so far out of context. This isn't a 24-hour news station.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 03, 2014, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on July 02, 2014, 05:36:42 PMThe MVP in the Super Bowl always comes from the winning team, etc, etc. That has always been the case and will not likely change in my lifetime.
close...but not quite always

QuoteSuper Bowl V

On January 17th, 1971, in Miami, Florida, Jim O'Brien kicked a last second field goal to lift his Baltimore Colts over the Dallas Cowboys 16-13 in Super Bowl 5. Super Bowl Five had many firsts; the Colts were down at half, the outcome was within a score, the game was played on artificial turf, the MVP came from the losing team, and it was the first Super Bowl in a merged NFL . Earl Morrall relieved Johnny Unitas late in the first half, but it was Johnny U who threw the Colts lone touchdown pass. A ball tipped by Eddie Hinton and Mel Renfro eventually landing in the grasp of John Mackey who ran for a 75 yard score. Linebacker, Chuck Howley took home MVP honors in the losing effort.
not only was howley the (first and to this point only) mvp on a losing team, he was also the first defensive player to win the award

i also think using the mvp of a single game is an inept comparison - all-conference, all-region and all-american awards are based upon a full season, not one game - i don't disagree that these awards typically go to players whose teams go to the playoffs...that isn't in question at all...but i have shown empirical evidence that max reber had a better 2013 season than any other qb in the region (and, more specifically, nash nance) - his team won a share of the conference championship for the 2nd time in school history and the first time since 2005, so he led his team to victory - the 8-2 record (the same regular season record as hsc, by the way) the monarchs achieved in the regular season was 2nd best in school history and one of the best win-loss records in the country - the only thing missing was a trip to the playoffs, but i ask you, how does this diminish what he did over the course of a 10 game regular season? was russell wilson a better qb in 2013 than tony romo because the seahawks won the super bowl? in 2012, was joe flacco a better qb than drew brees? by almost any statistical measure, the answer is no, but both wilson and flacco won the super bowl while romo and brees didn't make the playoffs, so wilson and flacco must have been better in those respective seasons, right?

my claim that max reber was the best qb in the region in 2013, while not validated by a somewhat flawed voting process (in my opinion), is based in statistical truth - sure, i'm biased, which is why i continue to sound the trumpet, but i can step away from my bias and back up my opinion with numbers, facts, figures and pretty charts :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 03, 2014, 08:57:29 PM
How is the host of the USA South Media Day determined? Seems like this is the second time recently that Maryville has hosted, I know it has been at CNU in the last 3-4 years, and at Averett. Can anyone tell me if has ever been at Ferrum?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 04, 2014, 05:00:46 PM
Quote from: Allen C on July 03, 2014, 08:57:29 PM
How is the host of the USA South Media Day determined? Seems like this is the second time recently that Maryville has hosted, I know it has been at CNU in the last 3-4 years, and at Averett. Can anyone tell me if has ever been at Ferrum?

I have no idea and I doubt anyone other than the ADs, coaches, and conference officials know.  Maybe they have a drawing or it's won at a game of poker.  It was at MC 4 years ago, I believe. Last two? were at Averett. Pat said last year AU was fairly central in the conference..MC isn't, so beats me.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 08, 2014, 05:06:31 AM
Newd report saying MC will play East Tennessee State (re-instated FCS) week 2 of the 2015 season, and they (ETSU) will also play E&H week 4, for all you ODAC guys keeping track of the USAC.

http://www.toledonewsnow.com/story/25959983/etsu-football-will-host-maryville-college-in-2015

No idea why a Toledo source would put this out..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 08, 2014, 02:34:16 PM
A lot of news sites just harvest the AP wire and automatically put out stories.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 16, 2014, 05:49:23 PM
MC is in the others receiving votes section of the preseason poll. Call it 29th if you want to, I'll call it getting the program on track. Can't wait for the season the begin so we can get back in the top 25!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 17, 2014, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 16, 2014, 05:49:23 PM
MC is in the others receiving votes section of the preseason poll. Call it 29th if you want to, I'll call it getting the program on track. Can't wait for the season the begin so we can get back in the top 25!

Nice! Congrats!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on July 21, 2014, 08:52:13 AM
Scots fans... passed through your campus on Wednesday on my way up to Gatlinburg. Family trip and we stopped off at The Lost Sea Adventure (I'm a sucker for 50s style roadside attractions!) and then the GPS took us up through Maryville. My wife got annoyed when I jumped off route to take a quick peak at the campus, but who knows when I'd get a chance again? Very nice campus from what I saw out the motor home windows.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 21, 2014, 12:43:07 PM
It is a nice campus, but of course I'm biased. The school is planning on renovating several of the older buildings on campus and are currently redoing the interior of Anderson Hall, the namesake of the College's founder (he was a graduate ofW&L, before it was W&L). The Lost Sea is a cool place to go. Cases Cove is another spot to go that's fun to ride through. +k for making your wife ride through campus ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on July 21, 2014, 01:00:09 PM
We hit Cades Cove in the Smokies as well. Got an amazing picture of the meadow backed up by the mountains wreathed in "smoke" (rain clouds...). Had a blast. If you can't have fun with a family in Gatlinburg you should just give up. Didn't much enjoy going over 321N to Pigeon Forge in the motor home towing my car, one switchback had me a little unhappy, but live and learn. The Lost Sea was neat, not something I need to do again...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 23, 2014, 04:24:01 PM
Looks like some media guys like the USA South name. Can't say that I blame them.
http://bit.ly/1kbUTdH

I wonder what they'd say if the conference was still the Dixie? ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hampton U SID on July 24, 2014, 07:46:19 AM
Well, the Dixie gets mentioned at #10 (albeit a tongue-n-cheek way)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 28, 2014, 06:45:50 PM
I was at work during the event today, but I watching the archived video now.
Coach Adams....wow. Very impressed. I bet this guy can recruit some guys to Danville.

Hold on to him, Averett. He might prove to be one hell of a hire.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 29, 2014, 08:14:49 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 28, 2014, 06:45:50 PM
I was at work during the event today, but I watching the archived video now.
Coach Adams....wow. Very impressed. I bet this guy can recruit some guys to Danville.

Hold on to him, Averett. He might prove to be one hell of a hire.
Good to hear....hopefully they can get back to their 2006 form.

I have been out of the loop .... who is supposed to be the power house in the USA Conf. this year and how are they picked (pre season)?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 29, 2014, 09:30:53 AM

2014 USA South Coaches Preseason Poll
Rank   Institution (1st Place Votes)   Pts.
1.   Maryville (5)   60
2.   Christopher Newport (3)   55
3.   Methodist (1)   54
4.   Huntingdon   45
5.   LaGrange   34
6.   Ferrum   29
7.   N.C. Wesleyan   22
8.   Greensboro   16
9.   Averett   9
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on July 29, 2014, 10:39:00 AM
Does Maryville have a lot coming back, Scots13?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on July 29, 2014, 10:58:25 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 29, 2014, 09:30:53 AM

2014 USA South Coaches Preseason Poll
Rank   Institution (1st Place Votes)   Pts.
1.   Maryville (5)   60
2.   Christopher Newport (3)   55
3.   Methodist (1)   54
4.   Huntingdon   45
5.   LaGrange   34
6.   Ferrum   29
7.   N.C. Wesleyan   22
8.   Greensboro   16
9.   Averett   9

Wow, Maryville must have everyone back on both sides of the ball. This being CNU's last year in the conference, I am sure they will want to go out with a bang and prove something. They are always tuff. Been 4 years since I looked at these teams close, so I can't speak to the rest of the league. I have never seen Huntingdon or LaGrange play so not familiar with them at all. I am just hoping Averett can get out of the basement and be competive this year. Look forward to going there for a night game, and seeing the new field.

Does anyone know when they will start buiding on the new stadium?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on July 29, 2014, 12:28:50 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on July 29, 2014, 10:58:25 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 29, 2014, 09:30:53 AM

2014 USA South Coaches Preseason Poll
Rank   Institution (1st Place Votes)   Pts.
1.   Maryville (5)   60
2.   Christopher Newport (3)   55
3.   Methodist (1)   54
4.   Huntingdon   45
5.   LaGrange   34
6.   Ferrum   29
7.   N.C. Wesleyan   22
8.   Greensboro   16
9.   Averett   9

Wow, Maryville must have everyone back on both sides of the ball. This being CNU's last year in the conference, I am sure they will want to go out with a bang and prove something. They are always tuff. Been 4 years since I looked at these teams close, so I can't speak to the rest of the league. I have never seen Huntingdon or LaGrange play so not familiar with them at all. I am just hoping Averett can get out of the basement and be competive this year. Look forward to going there for a night game, and seeing the new field.

Does anyone know when they will start buiding on the new stadium?

If you look at the USAC historically, CNU has a great program and has always been in the run, however many other teams other than CNU have made runs within the conference and have represented the USAC, that it what makes the conference unique, especially as of late, it's improved parity. Now regarding the new comers, Huntingdon is a well respected program, which over the last few years has been a bubble team and very close to making the playoffs, they have played competitively against some good Wesley teams and also beat a good Wittenberg team some years ago and they have a good offense. As for LaGrange, they have been pretty much a sub 500 to 500 team. If I can remember they had a good team back in 08 or 09 that made the playoffs, but got beat really bad by an okay Millsaps team. As for the remaining teams both Maryville and Methodist look good last year and could easily win the conference IMHO.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 29, 2014, 10:04:07 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 29, 2014, 09:30:53 AM

2014 USA South Coaches Preseason Poll
Rank   Institution (1st Place Votes)   Pts.
1.   Maryville (5)   60
2.   Christopher Newport (3)   55
3.   Methodist (1)   54
4.   Huntingdon   45
5.   LaGrange   34
6.   Ferrum   29
7.   N.C. Wesleyan   22
8.   Greensboro   16
9.   Averett   9
i honestly think any of the top 5 can win the conference this year...i'm hoping the poll is wrong, but i can't  disagree with this pre-season assessment
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 30, 2014, 11:23:59 AM
I think the poll is not going to be too far off when the season ends. My concern is that CNU has a "bye" in week 11.....meaning 10 straight weeks of football with no break....and 2 long trips to very good teams in Huntingdon and Maryville. And they open with Salisbury and a trip to Hampden-Sydney.

There a few things I am interested to see.....one being the new coach that was previously at UVA and Richmond. He will be calling the plays. And as always, I like to see who steps up on the field next...CNU always has a few who step into the starting role and perform well. I hope I get one or two in my class this semester.



Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on July 30, 2014, 11:39:39 AM
CNU's schedule is brutal. That almost couldn't shape up any harder.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on July 30, 2014, 08:05:19 PM
Ferrum is picked 6th, and while I do not disagree with that, I do feel that Ferrum has taken some serious steps in the off season to show improvement in the coming seasons. Three new assistant coaches, two with solid credentials, and what looks like some really good recruits. That with some returners that will be impact players, and I think Ferrum is going to be more competitive than one may think. That being said, I still think sixth is a logical prediction.....mainly because this conference is getting stronger, and while the top five I agree, have the best chance of seriously competing for the title, The bottom four, can definitely have an affect on those standings.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on July 31, 2014, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: jknezek on July 30, 2014, 11:39:39 AM
CNU's schedule is brutal. That almost couldn't shape up any harder.

Yep, CNU's schedule is pretty tough this year, but it will be even worse next season in the NJAC.  While I'm excited about facing better competition more consistently in the new conference, I'm concerned about the lumps CNU may/will take.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 31, 2014, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: Swish3 on July 31, 2014, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: jknezek on July 30, 2014, 11:39:39 AM
CNU's schedule is brutal. That almost couldn't shape up any harder.

Yep, CNU's schedule is pretty tough this year, but it will be even worse next season in the NJAC.  While I'm excited about facing better competition more consistently in the new conference, I'm concerned about the lumps CNU may/will take.

indeed! The next few years will really tell who the true CNU fans are!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on July 31, 2014, 11:52:16 AM
I wonder if the CNU coaches will consider recruiting more of the Maryland/Delaware/Pennsylvania area?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 31, 2014, 12:58:21 PM
I would think at least Pennsylvania. Isn't Coach Kelchner from there?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 31, 2014, 01:12:25 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 31, 2014, 12:58:21 PM
I would think at least Pennsylvania. Isn't Coach Kelchner from there?

Yes he is, and went to susquehanna. Problem with recruiting out of state is the out of state tuition cost vs in state and some really good PA schools.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on July 31, 2014, 02:04:56 PM
Come on, '85, I know you'd be more than willing to personally help w/any tuition deficiency for out of state blue chippers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 31, 2014, 02:17:15 PM
I just helped at lunch. Doled over my annual contribution for the Captains Crew, the Luter Board, and the scholarship I set up in my daughter's name......I'm now broke...again!
;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on July 31, 2014, 02:57:20 PM
I seem to stay broke....one day, maybe I'll be able to contribute enough to the Captains' Crew to access the President's Suite at halftime of the football games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on July 31, 2014, 03:02:28 PM
I did that one year....kinda stuffy up there. Was invited once to watch a complete game.....it was our home loss to LaGrange.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 31, 2014, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 30, 2014, 11:23:59 AM
I think the poll is not going to be too far off when the season ends. My concern is that CNU has a "bye" in week 11.....meaning 10 straight weeks of football with no break....and 2 long trips to very good teams in Huntingdon and Maryville. And they open with Salisbury and a trip to Hampden-Sydney.

There a few things I am interested to see.....one being the new coach that was previously at UVA and Richmond. He will be calling the plays. And as always, I like to see who steps up on the field next...CNU always has a few who step into the starting role and perform well. I hope I get one or two in my class this semester.

Maryville played 6 away games last year, 7 if you count the playoff game at HSC; with trips to Alabama and the 757. Finished 8-3. CNU has a rough schedule, but it can be done.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 01, 2014, 09:11:58 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 31, 2014, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on July 30, 2014, 11:23:59 AM
I think the poll is not going to be too far off when the season ends. My concern is that CNU has a "bye" in week 11.....meaning 10 straight weeks of football with no break....and 2 long trips to very good teams in Huntingdon and Maryville. And they open with Salisbury and a trip to Hampden-Sydney.

There a few things I am interested to see.....one being the new coach that was previously at UVA and Richmond. He will be calling the plays. And as always, I like to see who steps up on the field next...CNU always has a few who step into the starting role and perform well. I hope I get one or two in my class this semester.

Maryville played 6 away games last year, 7 if you count the playoff game at HSC; with trips to Alabama and the 757. Finished 8-3. CNU has a rough schedule, but it can be done.

True. Just need to stay focused! Bought my season tix yesterday and ordered Kickoff from d3football. Printed my research from ESPN Insider for my fantasy league.......I'm ready!!! Let's go!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 01, 2014, 11:56:23 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 01, 2014, 09:11:58 AM
True. Just need to stay focused! Bought my season tix yesterday and ordered Kickoff from d3football. Printed my research from ESPN Insider for my fantasy league.......I'm ready!!! Let's go!!
We mailed in our season ticket form yesterday and I ordered Kickoff a couple of weeks ago. Just figuring out what roads trips we will get to make. Already put in for a Friday off to make the trip to Methodist. We usually try to make a trip every year to somewhere we haven't been before for a game. We've made every trip to Murvul since '07 but since it is the week after Methodist I'm not sure we will be able to pull that off back-to-back weeks.
Can't wait for the season to get started.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 01, 2014, 01:46:53 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 01, 2014, 11:56:23 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 01, 2014, 09:11:58 AM
True. Just need to stay focused! Bought my season tix yesterday and ordered Kickoff from d3football. Printed my research from ESPN Insider for my fantasy league.......I'm ready!!! Let's go!!
We mailed in our season ticket form yesterday and I ordered Kickoff a couple of weeks ago. Just figuring out what roads trips we will get to make. Already put in for a Friday off to make the trip to Methodist. We usually try to make a trip every year to somewhere we haven't been before for a game. We've made every trip to Murvul since '07 but since it is the week after Methodist I'm not sure we will be able to pull that off back-to-back weeks.
Can't wait for the season to get started.

Go Hawks!

Was hoping to go to the Hampden Sydney game...but my wife has a friend getting married. WTH kinda guy gets married on a Saturday during football season....he needs to turn in his mancard!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 01, 2014, 01:47:29 PM
Congrats Shaun Copening....First Team Preseason All-American!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 01, 2014, 02:11:51 PM
And also congrats to Maryville's Dalton Stephens!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 01, 2014, 02:18:01 PM
non football related...but fun and for a great cause

http://cnusports.com/news/2014/8/1/GEN_0801144855.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2014/8/1/GEN_0801144855.aspx)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 06, 2014, 03:28:45 PM
Nice!! always wondered what happened after his playing time in Austria.

I was a harsh critic back in the day. But must admit, I didn't know him. Apologies to Tunde and his family. Even at my advanced age I make mistakes and learn.

http://cnusports.com/news/2014/8/4/FB_0804143621.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2014/8/4/FB_0804143621.aspx)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: KEEPING IT REAL on August 07, 2014, 01:24:05 PM
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This is Tunde Ogun championship game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on August 11, 2014, 09:20:36 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 31, 2014, 12:58:21 PM
I would think at least Pennsylvania. Isn't Coach Kelchner from there?

CNU doesn't need to recruit from out of state.  It is a public institution that happens to be in one of the best regions for high school football in the nation.  All CNU has to do is take the leftovers from the Hampton, Norfolk State, VTech, and UVA and they will field a great football team every year. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on August 11, 2014, 09:25:57 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on July 29, 2014, 12:28:50 PM
As for LaGrange, they have been pretty much a sub 500 to 500 team. If I can remember they had a good team back in 08 or 09 that made the playoffs, but got beat really bad by an okay Millsaps team.

Did you watch any of the games last year?  LC was 5-3 in conference and one of those losses was when our past HC stepped down during the middle of game week and was replaced by our current head coach.  LC is returning 10 starters on offense (which led the nation in passing) and most of our defensive players with a new DC. 

Keep on sleeping on the Panthers...I believe this is going to be a great year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 11, 2014, 10:28:55 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on August 11, 2014, 09:25:57 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on July 29, 2014, 12:28:50 PM
As for LaGrange, they have been pretty much a sub 500 to 500 team. If I can remember they had a good team back in 08 or 09 that made the playoffs, but got beat really bad by an okay Millsaps team.

Did you watch any of the games last year?  LC was 5-3 in conference and one of those losses was when our past HC stepped down during the middle of game week and was replaced by our current head coach.  LC is returning 10 starters on offense (which led the nation in passing) and most of our defensive players with a new DC. 

Keep on sleeping on the Panthers...I believe this is going to be a great year.

That's why I'm driving 10 hours after our Friday night game in Portsmouth, VA to Maryville October 3 for MC's homecoming game. It's got the makings for one of those ESPN Classic Instant Classics. LC is going to be in the mix all year and give people fits. Like Methodist if they play defense like they did last year. (Not trying to take a shot at narch's boys, just stating facts.)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 11, 2014, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on August 11, 2014, 09:20:36 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 31, 2014, 12:58:21 PM
I would think at least Pennsylvania. Isn't Coach Kelchner from there?

CNU doesn't need to recruit from out of state.  It is a public institution that happens to be in one of the best regions for high school football in the nation.  All CNU has to do is take the leftovers from the Hampton, Norfolk State, VTech, and UVA and they will field a great football team every year.

Problem is, those leftovers can't get into CNU....the admissions standards have changed tremendously through the years and, as we all know, the majority of the really good athletes usually don't have the best grades.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 11, 2014, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on August 11, 2014, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on August 11, 2014, 09:20:36 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 31, 2014, 12:58:21 PM
I would think at least Pennsylvania. Isn't Coach Kelchner from there?

CNU doesn't need to recruit from out of state.  It is a public institution that happens to be in one of the best regions for high school football in the nation.  All CNU has to do is take the leftovers from the Hampton, Norfolk State, VTech, and UVA and they will field a great football team every year.

Problem is, those leftovers can't get into CNU....the admissions standards have changed tremendously through the years and, as we all know, the majority of the really good athletes usually don't have the best grades.

If it were that simple, shouldn't CNU be mentioned in the same class as UWW, UMU, and UMHB?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on August 11, 2014, 01:25:30 PM
Good point, Scots13....geographical location and state tuition doesn't necessarily translate into victories....there are a lot of variables that go into having a successful program.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 11, 2014, 01:33:40 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on August 11, 2014, 01:25:30 PM
Good point, Scots13....geographical location and state tuition doesn't necessarily translate into victories....there are a lot of variables that go into having a successful program.

I still think talent has a lot to do with it and even though I personally have never viewed a statistic that could correlate talent with grade point average, my personal experience from my time on the gridiron and watching some of these young guys over the years tell me that talent level and grade point average have an negative correlation with the exception of a few outliers. Yet, it is still up to the individual and coaches to help the individual reach their highest potential off and on the gridiron.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on August 11, 2014, 03:58:24 PM
Back to the original point, CNU should not have to recruit too many students out of state to field a good football team.  There is talent galore and really good D3 talent in the Tidewater area.  Any student that could get into VaTech, UVA, or Hampton but may not be getting the playing time can get into CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 11, 2014, 04:32:00 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on August 11, 2014, 03:58:24 PM
Back to the original point, CNU should not have to recruit too many students out of state to field a good football team.  There is talent galore and really good D3 talent in the Tidewater area.  Any student that could get into VaTech, UVA, or Hampton but may not be getting the playing time can get into CNU.

Do you think upstart power ODU is diluting the talent a bit in the tidewater area?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 11, 2014, 04:54:31 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on August 11, 2014, 04:32:00 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on August 11, 2014, 03:58:24 PM
Back to the original point, CNU should not have to recruit too many students out of state to field a good football team.  There is talent galore and really good D3 talent in the Tidewater area.  Any student that could get into VaTech, UVA, or Hampton but may not be getting the playing time can get into CNU.

Do you think upstart power ODU is diluting the talent a bit in the tidewater area?

I just did a quick check of their 2014 Roster. 30 players are from either the Hampton Roads (757) area or the Richmond area. I didn't include Northern Va

So I would say, yes...those 30 would be playing somewhere else....but not necessarily in Va.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 11, 2014, 05:18:14 PM
Another item to consider is that Virginia is 38th in the country as far as state support of universities. NC is 10th and MD is 11th. In order to offset huge budget cuts, colleges and universities have to raise tuition and fees; especially for out of state students. For many universities in VA an out of state student has to dish out $40k. Similar to an in state private school. A quick internet search has the following % of operating budgets supported by the great Commonwealth of VA.

UVA - 5.8% (might as well be a private school)
VT - 19%
CMI - 17%
George Mason - 21%
W&M - 11%
VCU - just says less than 30%
CNU is around 20%

A friend of mine also told me that SC is similar to Va as far as % of operating budget funded by the state.

What does all this mean? To me it means it is August and we've been without college football way too long!!!!!!!!!! Let classes begin in 2 weeks and let's get to opening night!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on August 13, 2014, 11:38:34 AM
I looked at CNU's 2013 roster...all but 3 players are from VA or played their senior year at a VA high school.  Again, there is no need for CNU to recruit outside of the state of VA unless it is to get one or two gifted players who can afford to pay out of state tuition. 

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 13, 2014, 12:40:56 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on August 13, 2014, 11:38:34 AM
I looked at CNU's 2013 roster...all but 3 players are from VA or played their senior year at a VA high school.  Again, there is no need for CNU to recruit outside of the state of VA unless it is to get one or two gifted players who can afford to pay out of state tuition.

True. And they seem to recruit very well at the High School AA level.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 13, 2014, 01:10:18 PM
Is VA back to 3 classes in public school ball? I know a few years ago they went to 6. I attended a private school and we had 3 divisions back then but there are 4 now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 13, 2014, 01:32:12 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 13, 2014, 01:10:18 PM
Is VA back to 3 classes in public school ball? I know a few years ago they went to 6. I attended a private school and we had 3 divisions back then but there are 4 now.

It is still 6.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 13, 2014, 07:35:04 PM
Hey you USASAC lunatics. If you guys can stop putting bodies in unmarked shallow graves along Highway 70 and I-95 for a minute. ;)

HSCTiger74 over in the ODAC is going to run THE pick-ems. As I know many of you skulk around the board I would like to remind you that if you run a USASAC board then we can cross  pollinate.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 14, 2014, 02:37:52 PM
i'm a little late to the party on this one (the d3football.com pre-season top 25 has been out for a while, now), but you've got to love the disrespect the usasac gets on a national level...guilford is coming off a 6-4 season where they lost 52-0 to hsc and gave averett their only win on the season and gets 5 votes in the top 25, just 30 fewer than maryville and 5 more than methodist and cnu - all of these teams won 8 games, cnu beat beat hsc, m'ville played hsc a lot closer than 52-0 and mu beat gcq head-to-head - that's a lot of respect for a guilford program that hasn't proven much

ahh...who cares...it's a pre-season poll - we get to settle it on the field in a few weeks :), but i think this conference is going to have 4 or 5 teams that can win against 80-85% of the teams in the country on any given week this year - ncwc, greensboro and ferrum always have athletes and can bite you if you don't play your "a" game, and averett can't be any worse than they were last year...should be fun!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 14, 2014, 02:57:48 PM
Quote from: narch on August 14, 2014, 02:37:52 PM
i'm a little late to the party on this one (the d3football.com pre-season top 25 has been out for a while, now), but you've got to love the disrespect the usasac gets on a national level...guilford is coming off a 6-4 season where they lost 52-0 to hsc and gave averett their only win on the season and gets 5 votes in the top 25, just 30 fewer than maryville and 5 more than methodist and cnu - all of these teams won 8 games, cnu beat beat hsc, m'ville played hsc a lot closer than 52-0 and mu beat gcq head-to-head - that's a lot of respect for a guilford program that hasn't proven much

ahh...who cares...it's a pre-season poll - we get to settle it on the field in a few weeks :), but i think this conference is going to have 4 or 5 teams that can win against 80-85% of the teams in the country on any given week this year - ncwc, greensboro and ferrum always have athletes and can bite you if you don't play your "a" game, and averett can't be any worse than they were last year...should be fun!

I never thought of that, but the way you put it seems logical..at least to my USAC mind. But I think the reason MU or CNU didn't receive any votes pre season might have to be historically the conference gets out to a slow start. There's only room for one, and that's my Scots.

I'm looking forward to the week 11 game in Fayetteville. It might turn out to be the de facto championship game. I'll be in attendance as I know you will be as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on August 14, 2014, 04:39:24 PM
Pre Season rankings mean very little but I'll assume they are based off of the prior years performance coupled with returning players, etc. Honestly, USASAC will not get much press nor will the ODAC. The two conferences are not on the national radar for obvious reasons and honestly, I don't think either conference is deserving of any more than what each is currently receiving. If either conference gets to the point when it's champion is advancing past the first & second playoff rounds, than and only than, will either receive the respect that we think they should be getting. Maybe 2014 will be the beginning or maybe 2014 will just be more of the same.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 14, 2014, 05:44:51 PM
Quote from: narch on August 14, 2014, 02:37:52 PM
guilford is coming off a 6-4 season where they lost 52-0 to hsc and gave averett their only win on the season and gets 5 votes in the top 25

It only takes one voter to do that, Narch. It's not some vast sign of national respect for Guilford. Daresay you can probably figure out which voter cast that ballot.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 14, 2014, 10:31:50 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 14, 2014, 05:44:51 PM
Quote from: narch on August 14, 2014, 02:37:52 PM
guilford is coming off a 6-4 season where they lost 52-0 to hsc and gave averett their only win on the season and gets 5 votes in the top 25

It only takes one voter to do that, Narch. It's not some vast sign of national respect for Guilford. Daresay you can probably figure out which voter cast that ballot.
leave it to pc to ruin the pity party :)

i figured guilford got 5 one point votes....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 14, 2014, 10:54:24 PM
I just found 5 MC freshmen's hudl highlights. I'm impressed with them. Can't wait for September.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on August 15, 2014, 03:43:56 PM
Narch
Big talk from a one eyed fat man ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 19, 2014, 11:06:52 PM
MC is in the process of uploading this year's roster. First glance at it shows A LOT of freshmen with more than a couple from Texas and NC, one from Los Angeles (yes, LA), and one from Virginia. Glad to see another VA boy migrating to the Smokies.

Thursday at 2 MC is hosting BSC for a scrimmage.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 20, 2014, 08:31:28 AM
CNU roster is up. Impressive Fr coming in, on paper. 139 on roster. 66 FR, 29 SO, 26 Jr, 18 SR - looks like most years' rosters. What I did notice on the new guys coming (haven't looked for transfers yet) is that CNU is getting bigger with the Freshmen. 5 WR over 6'2. 2 FB 250lbs or more. All 3 TE are over 6-3 and the smallest is 218lbs. 4 QB over 5-11" with one kid at 6-2 210. nice!

As for all 139 - looks like only 2 played HS ball out of state. 8 list hometowns out of state, but 6 of those played HS ball in VA. Also looks like the recruiting hit AAA schools a little more. But I haven't done the numbers on it yet (may not ever). Just an impression.

Not sure what all this means. It's just names and numbers on a piece of paper. Don't know the talent level or speed. But maybe CNU is gearing up for the NJAC brutality in coming years??? Next year roster size per NJAC rules is 125.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 20, 2014, 08:40:52 AM
They have a max roster number? Did not know that.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 20, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 20, 2014, 08:40:52 AM
They have a max roster number? Did not know that.

My understanding it is new for next year. Somehow they think that will keep things on a more level playing field....can have 125, but at start of year have to name 100 to roster. The other 25 can practice and play JV, but if one of the 100 goes down, you are stuck with 99...can't change once the roster is set. I think I'm correct on this...NJAC and new rules, all still new to me. I think they schools were worried about Wesley and CNU and Salisbury coming in with huge rosters. Not real sure.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 20, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
The NJAC has had a 100 player roster limit for years. It was relaxed with next year's expansion, not tightened.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 20, 2014, 03:14:37 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 20, 2014, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 20, 2014, 08:40:52 AM
They have a max roster number? Did not know that.

My understanding it is new for next year. Somehow they think that will keep things on a more level playing field....can have 125, but at start of year have to name 100 to roster. The other 25 can practice and play JV, but if one of the 100 goes down, you are stuck with 99...can't change once the roster is set. I think I'm correct on this...NJAC and new rules, all still new to me. I think they schools were worried about Wesley and CNU and Salisbury coming in with huge rosters. Not real sure.

Didn't hurt Rowan or Kean over the past couple years against Wesley. Historically, the NJAC has played pretty well against the old ACFC teams and CNU. I think the roster adjustment helps the NJAC teams more than Wesley, Salisbury, and CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 20, 2014, 03:20:06 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 20, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
The NJAC has had a 100 player roster limit for years. It was relaxed with next year's expansion, not tightened.

Thanks for the correction. Now my thinking is all whacked out! Again!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 20, 2014, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 20, 2014, 03:20:06 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 20, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
The NJAC has had a 100 player roster limit for years. It was relaxed with next year's expansion, not tightened.

Thanks for the correction. Now my thinking is all whacked out! Again!

You were just thinking about it backward. We talk a lot about how schools use football to bring in tuition revenue. But some of the traditional NJAC schools are big. Some of the biggest in D3. An extra 25-50 tuition paying bodies on the football field isn't going to matter when your undergrad enrollment is 12K+ (Rowan, Willy Pat, Montclair and Kean). But those extra 25-50 players are expensive to the athletic department. Extra coaches, facilities space, equipment, compliance and even Title IX related offsets all come in to play. The 100 player cap was for expense management, a big deal at these schools. Just to put it in perspective I think Morrisville is the smallest of the NJAC public schools at 3500 or so. TCNJ and Cortland are 6500 or so.

I'm sure Wesley pushed hard to increase the numbers before joining the NJAC. Probably was a prerequisite for them because I'd have to believe they are on the football players = positive revenue side of the coin. I'd imagine S. Va. would have been interested as well, although their specific target audience may have made it less of an issue. In addition I'd imagine all the football staffs were pretty much in support. Having JV teams, especially if you play a couple JV games a year, is nothing but helpful.

But the 100 player limit wasn't exclusive to the NJAC. The WIAC does it as well, I believe NESCAC is even tighter. Maybe 75 player rosters. That's a different logic altogether. There are probably some other conferences with limits if you sniffed around.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on August 20, 2014, 04:39:17 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 20, 2014, 03:41:32 PM
I believe NESCAC is even tighter. Maybe 75 player rosters.

The NESCAC roster limit is 75, as far as I know.  I will say that with only an 8-game season and zero OOC games, as long as they're all on the same playing field, they can get by with shorter rosters than I'd want to elsewhere in the Division - I wouldn't impose a cap smaller than 100 on any conference that plays a full 10-game slate, although I know that many schools do just fine with 60-70 players on the roster, including your Generals.

Good description of the rationale behind NJAC roster cap.

As a side note, the NFL agreed to expand the practice squad by 2 players per team.  I'm happy to see this but wish it would've been even more.  I think NFL teams should have much bigger rosters than they do (maybe a 50-man active roster, which allows a full 2-deep to be dressed on gameday plus a handful of specialists (K/P/LS) and a few extra WR's or DB's, and then a 15-man practice squad).  The bigger practice squad would allow for better development of young players and result in fewer situations where a team is signing a guy in the middle of a playoff run who wasn't even on the roster in September and then starting him the next Sunday because they're desperately short at Position X.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 20, 2014, 04:48:31 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on August 20, 2014, 04:39:17 PM

As a side note, the NFL agreed to expand the practice squad by 2 players per team.  I'm happy to see this but wish it would've been even more.  I think NFL teams should have much bigger rosters than they do (maybe a 50-man active roster, which allows a full 2-deep to be dressed on gameday plus a handful of specialists (K/P/LS) and a few extra WR's or DB's, and then a 15-man practice squad).  The bigger practice squad would allow for better development of young players and result in fewer situations where a team is signing a guy in the middle of a playoff run who wasn't even on the roster in September and then starting him the next Sunday because they're desperately short at Position X.

Yeah, but this would cost the billionaire owners more money and would take away some of the story lines and intrigues that the game thrives on week to week. I think the NFL should have a complete farm system. If ever there was a sport that needed a true, if small, farm system it is football. One team per NFL team, exclusive players signed to that team. Imagine how much better the product would be if you could actually develop players for a year or two. Maybe not running backs with short lifespans, but qbs, linemen, and defenders. A drafted receiver most likely doesn't come into his own in the NFL until year 3. Gee, how much better a product would we have if you actually could take years 1 and 2 into a developmental league?

Ridiculous considering the amount of money spend. You can't tell me that if you ran a developmental league from late spring to mid fall that it wouldn't work? People would rather watch baseball? No way. Lots of cities that would kill for it and it would be perfect in 20-40,000 seat stadiums. College football might not like it, but you could stay away from a few key cities and be just fine. Especially if you did mid-week games. Tuesday and Wednesday nights or something like that. You'd have limited sports competition in the summer, MLB and MLS?, and while there is competition in the fall by then the season would be wrapping up.

Sure you couldn't have the guys in your pre-season camp, but they'd be in mid-season form when the NFL teams opened. If the minor league teams had the same philosophy as the NFL teams it would work fine. I think the NFL is stupid for not having done this years ago, but since they have a very weak, but completely free, farm system in D1, that probably trumps investing the start up costs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 21, 2014, 08:05:49 AM
Quote from: jknezek on August 20, 2014, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 20, 2014, 03:20:06 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 20, 2014, 01:15:35 PM
The NJAC has had a 100 player roster limit for years. It was relaxed with next year's expansion, not tightened.

Thanks for the correction. Now my thinking is all whacked out! Again!

You were just thinking about it backward. We talk a lot about how schools use football to bring in tuition revenue. But some of the traditional NJAC schools are big. Some of the biggest in D3. An extra 25-50 tuition paying bodies on the football field isn't going to matter when your undergrad enrollment is 12K+ (Rowan, Willy Pat, Montclair and Kean). But those extra 25-50 players are expensive to the athletic department. Extra coaches, facilities space, equipment, compliance and even Title IX related offsets all come in to play. The 100 player cap was for expense management, a big deal at these schools. Just to put it in perspective I think Morrisville is the smallest of the NJAC public schools at 3500 or so. TCNJ and Cortland are 6500 or so.

I'm sure Wesley pushed hard to increase the numbers before joining the NJAC. Probably was a prerequisite for them because I'd have to believe they are on the football players = positive revenue side of the coin. I'd imagine S. Va. would have been interested as well, although their specific target audience may have made it less of an issue. In addition I'd imagine all the football staffs were pretty much in support. Having JV teams, especially if you play a couple JV games a year, is nothing but helpful.

But the 100 player limit wasn't exclusive to the NJAC. The WIAC does it as well, I believe NESCAC is even tighter. Maybe 75 player rosters. That's a different logic altogether. There are probably some other conferences with limits if you sniffed around.

I obviously didn't think about it the right way. You explained it very well and it made perfect sense. Thanks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 21, 2014, 08:10:24 AM
Quote from: jknezek on August 20, 2014, 04:48:31 PM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on August 20, 2014, 04:39:17 PM

As a side note, the NFL agreed to expand the practice squad by 2 players per team.  I'm happy to see this but wish it would've been even more.  I think NFL teams should have much bigger rosters than they do (maybe a 50-man active roster, which allows a full 2-deep to be dressed on gameday plus a handful of specialists (K/P/LS) and a few extra WR's or DB's, and then a 15-man practice squad).  The bigger practice squad would allow for better development of young players and result in fewer situations where a team is signing a guy in the middle of a playoff run who wasn't even on the roster in September and then starting him the next Sunday because they're desperately short at Position X.

Yeah, but this would cost the billionaire owners more money and would take away some of the story lines and intrigues that the game thrives on week to week. I think the NFL should have a complete farm system. If ever there was a sport that needed a true, if small, farm system it is football. One team per NFL team, exclusive players signed to that team. Imagine how much better the product would be if you could actually develop players for a year or two. Maybe not running backs with short lifespans, but qbs, linemen, and defenders. A drafted receiver most likely doesn't come into his own in the NFL until year 3. Gee, how much better a product would we have if you actually could take years 1 and 2 into a developmental league?

Ridiculous considering the amount of money spend. You can't tell me that if you ran a developmental league from late spring to mid fall that it wouldn't work? People would rather watch baseball? No way. Lots of cities that would kill for it and it would be perfect in 20-40,000 seat stadiums. College football might not like it, but you could stay away from a few key cities and be just fine. Especially if you did mid-week games. Tuesday and Wednesday nights or something like that. You'd have limited sports competition in the summer, MLB and MLS?, and while there is competition in the fall by then the season would be wrapping up.

Sure you couldn't have the guys in your pre-season camp, but they'd be in mid-season form when the NFL teams opened. If the minor league teams had the same philosophy as the NFL teams it would work fine. I think the NFL is stupid for not having done this years ago, but since they have a very weak, but completely free, farm system in D1, that probably trumps investing the start up costs.

What about injury factor if made a summer or spring league? If someone played earlier in the year in a development league, say 8-10 games, then went to camp, 4 preseason games, then a full 16 game season....that could be up to 30 games or more with playoffs.

The NFL is a money making machine. I'm sure if they could find a way to make money with a D league, they would give it a shot. But then again.....sometimes they do stuff I don't understand. Such as - NFL ticket available on on dish. I would think they would make more money going to the mega cable companies and offering Pay Per View. I will not get dish TV, but would pay $10/week to watch my favorite pro team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 21, 2014, 08:14:39 AM
Isn't the CFL a bit of a development league?  And, besides, the DI colleges foot the bill for another "development" league.  I personally wouldn't pay to go to a minor league football game the same way I do for baseball, which, by the way, often drafts HS talent, something the NFL has a rule against.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 21, 2014, 08:48:58 AM
No the CFL is not a development league. It's more of a cast-off league. Plus NFL teams can't farm out guys they like but need development to a CFL team. There is no loan program like in European soccer. If someone is playing in the CFL they are essentially an NFL free agent (though their ability to move depends on their CFL contract).

As for it being a minor league, I can't imagine why people wouldn't go see it like they see A/AA/AAA baseball games. Why should one being a minor league matter and one not? The minor league baseball games are very creative in their marketing, I'd imagine NFL minor league teams would be as well. They'd also have the advantage depending on how you structured the season of not playing directly against the major league teams at times. You can't tell me teams in places like Memphis, Oklahoma City, Las Vegas, Portland, Sacramento, Providence RI wouldn't draw fans, especially not playing up against Sunday pro or Saturday college games.

Again, you aren't looking to fill 60,000 seat stadiums, you are looking for mainly 10-15K for a dozen Tuesday/Wednesday  night games played every other week from early July to end of November. Since it would be a true minor league there would be a "future stars" aspect to it and you'd have to imagine a lot of the fringe players would be local former University standouts who would otherwise have been NFL free agent camp fodder. That would keep local interest.

You could remove the h.s. draft provision though I don't know why you would. Football requires more mature bodies and you wouldn't want to antagonize the D1 schools that much. It would require a lot of start up capital, but I think it could at least break even and provide the NFL with a better final product. Fox Sports, NBCSports, ESPN45 or whatever they are up to, would absolutely pay to put more football on TV during the doldrum months.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 22, 2014, 02:47:21 PM
Because we were just briefly discussing this, check out this article I came across today. Hadn't heard anything about it until I read this article.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/136649/inside-slant-developmental-league-emerges
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 22, 2014, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 22, 2014, 02:47:21 PM
Because we were just briefly discussing this, check out this article I came across today. Hadn't heard anything about it until I read this article.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/136649/inside-slant-developmental-league-emerges

Same here, thank you for the post. I think this could be the start of something special.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 22, 2014, 03:22:21 PM
Here's a list of 8 fairly famous players who had CFL stints either before, after or, in some cases, in the middle of an NFL career:

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/04/nfl-stars-canadian-football-league-chad-johnson-doug-flutie
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 25, 2014, 10:32:31 AM
I spoke with a young man a couple days ago and he mentioned that he thought Oscar Smith could beat majority of Division III programs, including CNU. I told that young man that he was crazy and that Oscar Smith needs to find a way to win its own Division VI State High School championship and focus on Booker T. Washington. After reading the paper of that Booker T. Washington game, it is safe to say that Oscar Smith has a lot of work to do before people can start saying that they can beat a program such as CNU or any Division III program. Again, this is my strong opinion of course. How do you guys feel about some top High Schools fans saying that their high school team can beat majority of Division III programs?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 25, 2014, 10:47:55 AM
Yeah. There's no way. I could see good high schools beating teams in the bottom 25 or so but at some point, the fact that they are 17 years old going against men in their 20s is going to be an issue.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 25, 2014, 11:09:29 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on August 25, 2014, 10:32:31 AM
I spoke with a young man a couple days ago and he mentioned that he thought Oscar Smith could beat majority of Division III programs, including CNU. I told that young man that he was crazy and that Oscar Smith needs to find a way to win its own Division VI State High School championship and focus on Booker T. Washington. After reading the paper of that Booker T. Washington game, it is safe to say that Oscar Smith has a lot of work to do before people can start saying that they can beat a program such as CNU or any Division III program. Again, this is my strong opinion of course. How do you guys feel about some top High Schools fans saying that their high school team can beat majority of Division III programs?

This comes up every now and then. It's a joke. Almost every starter on decent D3 football program was a recognized all league player for their h.s. as an upperclassmen. Might have been 3rd team all county, but you get the point. Then they went to college and continued to grow, work out in the weight room, mature, and learn more football skills. Other than the worst couple teams in D3 versus the best couple h.s. teams in the country, those h.s. teams are going to lose physical battles all over the field. They might have individuals good enough and strong enough to play the game, but not a whole three phases worth. Especially in places like special teams. High school teams use a lot of underclassmen in those positions because they have to. A decent college team is going to be using underclassmen in those positions who were some of the best players on h.s. teams as upperclassmen. Basic logic tells you what is going to happen...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on August 25, 2014, 11:35:43 AM
I completely agree that HS teams cannot beat D3 teams. I've had that conversation with numerous HS coaches and they all agree on the topic. Some think D3 is a continuation of HS football until their kid shows up at a D3 school thinking he will make 1st team AA only to watch that kid sit the bench for 4 years or decide not to play any longer. The blue chippers will continue to play D1 but most of the good D3 programs have kids good enough to play D1 but just not big enough, tall enough, fast enough, but were dominate in HS.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 25, 2014, 02:04:07 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 22, 2014, 02:47:21 PM
Because we were just briefly discussing this, check out this article I came across today. Hadn't heard anything about it until I read this article.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/136649/inside-slant-developmental-league-emerges
anything with the word experimental in the name probably should not be taken seriously as a long-term venture - if this league gets off the ground (that's a big if), i don't see it lasting long-term - player salaries alone are going to be in the range of $1,000,000...add another $200,000 to $250,000 or so for coaches salaries, along with facility rental, administrative and marketing costs...expenses are easily going to into the $2.5 to $3 million range for a 6 week, 4 team league that has no brand awareness, no television contract and will likely see very small crowds - the league is scheduled to start in 43 days, 10 hours and 15 minutes and we don't know who will play on any of the teams, or when/where the teams will play each other - it all seems rushed and doomed to failure...just like every other start-up professional football league (a11fl, ufl, xfl, etc.)

until the nfl gets behind a developmental league, i'm not buying stock in one...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 25, 2014, 02:27:58 PM
Quote from: narch on August 25, 2014, 02:04:07 PM
until the nfl gets behind a developmental league, i'm not buying stock in one...

100% agree with this. And I only linked to it because it was timely in the discussion, not because I think it will succeed. I do think you were overestimating the salary costs based on the numbers provided in the story, but I don't disagree that it seems rushed and doomed to fail.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on August 25, 2014, 02:31:30 PM
Quote from: narch on August 25, 2014, 02:04:07 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 22, 2014, 02:47:21 PM
Because we were just briefly discussing this, check out this article I came across today. Hadn't heard anything about it until I read this article.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/136649/inside-slant-developmental-league-emerges
anything with the word experimental in the name probably should not be taken seriously as a long-term venture - if this league gets off the ground (that's a big if), i don't see it lasting long-term - player salaries alone are going to be in the range of $1,000,000...add another $200,000 to $250,000 or so for coaches salaries, along with facility rental, administrative and marketing costs...expenses are easily going to into the $2.5 to $3 million range for a 6 week, 4 team league that has no brand awareness, no television contract and will likely see very small crowds - the league is scheduled to start in 43 days, 10 hours and 15 minutes and we don't know who will play on any of the teams, or when/where the teams will play each other - it all seems rushed and doomed to failure...just like every other start-up professional football league (a11fl, ufl, xfl, etc.)

until the nfl gets behind a developmental league, i'm not buying stock in one...

Even though they initially said they will only be targeting players a few years of leaving college, I think they may go after some younger guys that may decide not to attend college. It was also mentioned in the article that they will not be paying those hefty salaries. I think the league stays committed to a good budget and hopefully maintain and last a couple years, you may see young guys opting out to go to college and make $250-$1,000 a week instead of going to college and receiving that same stipend, without having to attend classes and deal with college by-laws.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 25, 2014, 03:20:49 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 25, 2014, 02:27:58 PM
I do think you were overestimating the salary costs based on the numbers provided in the story, but I don't disagree that it seems rushed and doomed to fail.
i wasn't really estimating at all...i was doing the math provided in the story

40 players per team x $1,000 per week x 4 teams x 8 weeks = $1,280,000

40 players per team x $1,250 per week x 4 teams x 8 weeks = $1,600,000

I actually under-stated salaries :)

QuoteEach team will have 40 players, with between six and eight coaches per franchise. As part of their eight-week contracts, coaches must agree to avoid exotic schemes and use a traditional approach to maximize players' NFL preparedness...Players will earn between $1,000 and $1,250 per week.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 25, 2014, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on August 25, 2014, 02:31:30 PM
Even though they initially said they will only be targeting players a few years of leaving college, I think they may go after some younger guys that may decide not to attend college. It was also mentioned in the article that they will not be paying those hefty salaries. I think the league stays committed to a good budget and hopefully maintain and last a couple years, you may see young guys opting out to go to college and make $250-$1,000 a week instead of going to college and receiving that same stipend, without having to attend classes and deal with college by-laws.
the ONLY chance this league has of surviving is for the nfl to see it as a viable developmental league...there is no way the nfl sees 17 to 18 year old kids as viable candidates for nfl jobs and there is absolutely no way the nflpa wants to see 17 to 18 year old kids taking a 30 year old, 8 year nfl veteran's job - i give it a less than .01% chance that the league lets anyone play who has not exhausted college eligibility...if this league ever even gets off the ground
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 25, 2014, 03:29:46 PM
Quote from: narch on August 25, 2014, 03:20:49 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 25, 2014, 02:27:58 PM
I do think you were overestimating the salary costs based on the numbers provided in the story, but I don't disagree that it seems rushed and doomed to fail.
i wasn't really estimating at all...i was doing the math provided in the story

40 players per team x $1,000 per week x 4 teams x 8 weeks = $1,280,000

40 players per team x $1,250 per week x 4 teams x 8 weeks = $1,600,000

I actually under-stated salaries :)

QuoteEach team will have 40 players, with between six and eight coaches per franchise. As part of their eight-week contracts, coaches must agree to avoid exotic schemes and use a traditional approach to maximize players' NFL preparedness...Players will earn between $1,000 and $1,250 per week.

Yeah. Just a mixed message. I was thinking salary per team, not per league.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 25, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
So..Kickoff...

Is it dropping early in the AM or in the afternoon? If I have to, I'll stay up late to read it. My little cousin is getting the nod at QB in a JV game game tomorrow so I'll be busy after after varsity practice. I can't read and be proud at the same time :(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on August 26, 2014, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: narch on August 25, 2014, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on August 25, 2014, 02:31:30 PM
Even though they initially said they will only be targeting players a few years of leaving college, I think they may go after some younger guys that may decide not to attend college. It was also mentioned in the article that they will not be paying those hefty salaries. I think the league stays committed to a good budget and hopefully maintain and last a couple years, you may see young guys opting out to go to college and make $250-$1,000 a week instead of going to college and receiving that same stipend, without having to attend classes and deal with college by-laws.
the ONLY chance this league has of surviving is for the nfl to see it as a viable developmental league...there is no way the nfl sees 17 to 18 year old kids as viable candidates for nfl jobs and there is absolutely no way the nflpa wants to see 17 to 18 year old kids taking a 30 year old, 8 year nfl veteran's job - i give it a less than .01% chance that the league lets anyone play who has not exhausted college eligibility...if this league ever even gets off the ground

The AFL attempted to do this. Used big salaries for some former big name college guys, but the league itself did not equate well to the NFL. The 5 minutes I spent playing in the Arena1 league I was the only guy on the roster who had NOT played in the NFL.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 26, 2014, 01:48:58 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 25, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
So..Kickoff...

Is it dropping early in the AM or in the afternoon? If I have to, I'll stay up late to read it. My little cousin is getting the nod at QB in a JV game game tomorrow so I'll be busy after after varsity practice. I can't read and be proud at the same time :(

You may not be happy...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 26, 2014, 02:47:35 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 26, 2014, 01:48:58 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 25, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
So..Kickoff...

Is it dropping early in the AM or in the afternoon? If I have to, I'll stay up late to read it. My little cousin is getting the nod at QB in a JV game game tomorrow so I'll be busy after after varsity practice. I can't read and be proud at the same time :(

You may not be happy...

It is what it is. We will see in November.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 26, 2014, 03:16:55 PM
just curious....when I open kickoff, the opening pic is of CNU.....is that customized and everyone sees the school they indicated they follow? Or is everyone seeing the CNU pic?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 26, 2014, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 26, 2014, 03:16:55 PM
just curious....when I open kickoff, the opening pic is of CNU.....is that customized and everyone sees the school they indicated they follow? Or is everyone seeing the CNU pic?

We're all forced to see the Captains...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 26, 2014, 03:41:29 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 26, 2014, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 26, 2014, 03:16:55 PM
just curious....when I open kickoff, the opening pic is of CNU.....is that customized and everyone sees the school they indicated they follow? Or is everyone seeing the CNU pic?

We're all forced to see the Captains...

Cool. At first I thought it was an awesome touch by Pat and the crew to make it a custom cover. But I will take it!  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 26, 2014, 04:54:01 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 26, 2014, 03:41:29 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 26, 2014, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 26, 2014, 03:16:55 PM
just curious....when I open kickoff, the opening pic is of CNU.....is that customized and everyone sees the school they indicated they follow? Or is everyone seeing the CNU pic?

We're all forced to see the Captains...

Cool. At first I thought it was an awesome touch by Pat and the crew to make it a custom cover. But I will take it!  ;D

I wish it were the case. That would be awesome, but also a lot of work to get 244 customized photos put in. :)

CNU wasn't chosen at random, though -- it's pulled off a mention in Keith's opening letter.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 27, 2014, 08:59:40 AM
kickoff is so good and so comprehensive...so worth the $$$ spent - thanks d3football.com

i'm not used to reading so many good things about mu...i'm not sure how to feel right now, but i hope it works out almost exactly as written...we'll see

i think that m'ville and huntingdon will be better than kickoff-predicted and i think that the line between the top 5 in this conference is razor thin...should be lots of fun - we're just 10 days away!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 27, 2014, 10:14:50 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 26, 2014, 04:54:01 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 26, 2014, 03:41:29 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 26, 2014, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 26, 2014, 03:16:55 PM
just curious....when I open kickoff, the opening pic is of CNU.....is that customized and everyone sees the school they indicated they follow? Or is everyone seeing the CNU pic?

We're all forced to see the Captains...

Cool. At first I thought it was an awesome touch by Pat and the crew to make it a custom cover. But I will take it!  ;D

I wish it were the case. That would be awesome, but also a lot of work to get 244 customized photos put in. :)

CNU wasn't chosen at random, though -- it's pulled off a mention in Keith's opening letter.

Very nicely done! The thing I like about kickoff is that I know a lot of what is going on with CNU football. Then, I read something in Kickoff that I didn't know. It lends to a high level of credibility when I read about other teams. I thoroughly enjoy it! Thanks to everyone on the staff who puts this together each year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 27, 2014, 11:12:47 AM
Quote from: narch on August 27, 2014, 08:59:40 AM
kickoff is so good and so comprehensive...so worth the $$$ spent - thanks d3football.com

i'm not used to reading so many good things about mu...i'm not sure how to feel right now, but i hope it works out almost exactly as written...we'll see

i think that m'ville and huntingdon will be better than kickoff-predicted and i think that the line between the top 5 in this conference is razor thin...should be lots of fun - we're just 10 days away!
I concur with pretty much all of this except, of course, for hoping it works out nothing like it is written. ;)

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on August 27, 2014, 01:10:12 PM
For the Averett faithful that may still follow this board - Mike Dunlevy (former Head Coach) has accepted an Assistant Coach position with Central Washington University in Washington State. I belive this is Division II level. According to the web site he will be coaching Linebackers and Defensive Backs. Good Luck coach Dunlevy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on August 27, 2014, 01:25:08 PM
If anyone is interested, Coach Mumme giving an interview to a local television station.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcDrysgBPtw&feature=youtu.be&list=PLC238D4CA2A48613B (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcDrysgBPtw&feature=youtu.be&list=PLC238D4CA2A48613B)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 27, 2014, 01:31:58 PM
Quote from: kickerdad on August 27, 2014, 01:10:12 PM
For the Averett faithful that may still follow this board - Mike Dunlevy (former Head Coach) has accepted an Assistant Coach position with Central Washington University in Washington State. I belive this is Division II level. According to the web site he will be coaching Linebackers and Defensive Backs. Good Luck coach Dunlevy.
i'd never heard of cwu, so i went to their site and saw something interesting on their schedule...they play 3 teams in their conference in home-and-home contests with one of the 2 games against each counting as a conference game, and the other being a non-conference game - i imagine that is a travel expense thing (perhaps there isn't much d2 football in that part of the country), but very odd to see 3 teams on the schedule twice...i can't recall seeing that on any level of college football before
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 27, 2014, 01:40:45 PM
Not quite the same but last year the SCAC did something similar. Trinity, Austin and Southwestern played home and home games, one counting for the conference. Only TLU of the four teams left in the conference played a single set of opponents. They played the 3 SCAC conference games, 6 ASC games (missing only UMHB), and had a game against an out of division opponent cancelled by weather.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on August 29, 2014, 03:27:29 AM
We're currently looking for a few more folks who would like to be part of the Top 25 Fan Poll (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=7065.msg1600116#msg1600116) this season over on the General Football (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?board=1474.0) board.  There's currently 7 people participating but very little representation from the east and south regions. Our poll even was mentioned in an edition of Around the Nation (http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/2012/where-does-buffalo-state-go-from-here) a couple seasons ago comparing our results to that of the "major" polls. Do you think you can come up with a better ballot than the experts? This is your chance ;)

To participate all you have to do is submit your ballot by PM to me by Tuesdays. Votes for each team may be revealed but no one's ballot will be revealed unless the person announces it themselves.

Preseason ballots are due by Sunday August 31st, but if you're interested and need a couple extra days let me know. :)

Good luck to everyone in the USAC this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on August 29, 2014, 01:01:54 PM
Narch,

What are you hearing about the Monarchs so far? I have heard some positive buzz, just want your take.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 29, 2014, 03:04:18 PM
Quote from: jbyrd on August 29, 2014, 01:01:54 PM
Narch, What are you hearing about the Monarchs so far? I have heard some positive buzz, just want your take.
here is what i'm hearing

QB - reber has taken things up a notch and vann has lost a lot of weight and looks really sharp....vann could probably start almost anywhere else in the conference, and he and reber have a great relationship...they really work well together - quality AND depth...something the monarchs haven't had in a long time

WR - mu will miss cross (obviously), but radke is catching everything, jacobs looks really good and they have a transfer who will stretch the field - a couple of the freshman from last year have stepped up and look like they are ready to contribute more

RB - page and hall, who both ran well last year, are gone (page transferred to weber international, not sure what hall is doing) - shuler and papillion have run well in camp and a couple young guys have stepped up...one of the freshman is a real home-run threat - 5 deep with quality backs is what i've heard...if the rb's can keep the defense honest (and off the qb) and catch some balls out of the backfield, they'll be doing what they need to do

OL - pretty much everyone is back and there is a transfer who is apparently a beast...should be good there

DL - minter and atkinson are back, and jd stalvey, who missed last season with injury, is back - there are a couple of big bodies in the incoming class and a de/olb who can really get after it

LB - missing holden, jones and davis, but the return of bryan bing (missed last season with injury) is huge for this unit, as is the improvement of some of the young guys - bing made 89 stops with 13.5 tfl in 2012, to go along with 2 int's and 2 fumble recoveries, and was one of the two best defenders on that 2012 unit - his presence will improve the lb unit

DB - davis and payne both return and should anchor a young defensive backfield - all of the corners who played significant minutes are gone...and that might be a positive :)

Special teams - ausherman is back from a strong 2013 campaign to handle kicking duties and vann will punt - i like that vann gives the opponent something to think about when the ball is between the 40's on 4th down, but i wish the backup qb wasn't punting

i've heard that the defense is much improved...it's difficult to get much worse than they were last year, so that's not hard to believe :) - overall, i'm as optimistic about mu football as i've been in a long time, but it's easy to forget that the 8-2 record from last year could have been 3-7 or 4-6 if the ball bounced a little differently in 4 or 5 games - this is a team that needs to prove it every weekend - this conference is deep with quality teams - if they play as they are capable for 10 weeks, they might just get to continue playing for an 11th week (and maybe even beyond), but if they don't bring their A game every week, the talent isn't strong or deep enough to win on talent alone

one of the things i'm most excited about this year is that mu will play an 8 game jv schedule and has a full jv coaching staff...there are still a lot of young guys on this team and getting these guys engaged in the program early is crucial, so that they're ready to roll when this crop of upperclassmen leave - some of the best teams in the country have legit jv programs, and now mu does as well - i think this will help ensure that the success mu had last year and hopes for this year is not a short-term thing like it was back in 2004 and 2005 - coach goss is building a model for sustained success - add that to the probability of a new stadium on the near horizon (you know anyone with a couple million laying around that wants their name on the stadium??? :)), and this team should contend every year - i hope that the results on the field this year bear this out...


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 01, 2014, 09:51:10 PM
IT'S GAME WEEK.

Let's get a Pick Em's going. To make it more interesting and have more games in the mix throughout the season, let's keep the ODAC games in it for the whole season.
Have picks in before Friday at noon for the McDaniel/Catholic game, all others Saturday at noon.

Week 1

Friday, Sept 5

McDaniel at Catholic

Saturday, Sept 6

E&H at Ferrum
Southern Virginia at Methodist
W&L at Averett
Berry at Maryville
Huntingdon at Louisana College
Salisbury at CNU
Stevenson at NC Wesleyan
Greensboro at Guilford
LaGrange at Birmingham Southern
HSC at Wabash
RMC at Johns Hopkins
Bridgewater at Gettysburg
Shenandoah at Gallaudet

It goes without saying-- ODACers are more than welcome, and are encouraged, to participate. 

...as well as others who enjoy pick em's. Talkin' to you, GrizzGrad.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on September 02, 2014, 08:54:07 AM
Thanks for the run down Narch! I am really looking forward to being back on campus a few times this year. Proud of the changes that are being made and the growth that the school is doing. Also, believe me if I had the money for a new stadium I would have already cut the check! haha
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 02, 2014, 09:28:08 AM
Quote from: narch on August 29, 2014, 03:04:18 PM
Quote from: jbyrd on August 29, 2014, 01:01:54 PM
Narch, What are you hearing about the Monarchs so far? I have heard some positive buzz, just want your take.
here is what i'm hearing

QB - reber has taken things up a notch and vann has lost a lot of weight and looks really sharp....vann could probably start almost anywhere else in the conference, and he and reber have a great relationship...they really work well together - quality AND depth...something the monarchs haven't had in a long time

WR - mu will miss cross (obviously), but radke is catching everything, jacobs looks really good and they have a transfer who will stretch the field - a couple of the freshman from last year have stepped up and look like they are ready to contribute more

RB - page and hall, who both ran well last year, are gone (page transferred to weber international, not sure what hall is doing) - shuler and papillion have run well in camp and a couple young guys have stepped up...one of the freshman is a real home-run threat - 5 deep with quality backs is what i've heard...if the rb's can keep the defense honest (and off the qb) and catch some balls out of the backfield, they'll be doing what they need to do

OL - pretty much everyone is back and there is a transfer who is apparently a beast...should be good there

DL - minter and atkinson are back, and jd stalvey, who missed last season with injury, is back - there are a couple of big bodies in the incoming class and a de/olb who can really get after it

LB - missing holden, jones and davis, but the return of bryan bing (missed last season with injury) is huge for this unit, as is the improvement of some of the young guys - bing made 89 stops with 13.5 tfl in 2012, to go along with 2 int's and 2 fumble recoveries, and was one of the two best defenders on that 2012 unit - his presence will improve the lb unit

DB - davis and payne both return and should anchor a young defensive backfield - all of the corners who played significant minutes are gone...and that might be a positive :)

Special teams - ausherman is back from a strong 2013 campaign to handle kicking duties and vann will punt - i like that vann gives the opponent something to think about when the ball is between the 40's on 4th down, but i wish the backup qb wasn't punting

i've heard that the defense is much improved...it's difficult to get much worse than they were last year, so that's not hard to believe :) - overall, i'm as optimistic about mu football as i've been in a long time, but it's easy to forget that the 8-2 record from last year could have been 3-7 or 4-6 if the ball bounced a little differently in 4 or 5 games - this is a team that needs to prove it every weekend - this conference is deep with quality teams - if they play as they are capable for 10 weeks, they might just get to continue playing for an 11th week (and maybe even beyond), but if they don't bring their A game every week, the talent isn't strong or deep enough to win on talent alone

one of the things i'm most excited about this year is that mu will play an 8 game jv schedule and has a full jv coaching staff...there are still a lot of young guys on this team and getting these guys engaged in the program early is crucial, so that they're ready to roll when this crop of upperclassmen leave - some of the best teams in the country have legit jv programs, and now mu does as well - i think this will help ensure that the success mu had last year and hopes for this year is not a short-term thing like it was back in 2004 and 2005 - coach goss is building a model for sustained success - add that to the probability of a new stadium on the near horizon (you know anyone with a couple million laying around that wants their name on the stadium??? :)), and this team should contend every year - i hope that the results on the field this year bear this out...

This could be the year Narch!!!! Good luck to your boys!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 05, 2014, 08:55:15 AM
NCWC has released its Roster for the 2014 season. Looks like they will be recruiting heavy in Florida, Tenn. and Georgia. I counted 17 listed from Florida
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on September 05, 2014, 12:03:24 PM
OK Scots, I'll jump in.

My picks:
Catholic
E&H
Southern Virginia
W&L
Maryville
Louisiana Coll.
CNU
NC Wesleyan
Guilford
Birmingham Southern
HSC
JHU
Bridgewater
Gallaudet
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 05, 2014, 01:21:39 PM
Week 1

Friday, Sept 5

Catholic

Saturday, Sept 6

Ferrum
Methodist
W&L
Maryville
Louisana College
CNU
Stevenson
Guilford
LaGrange
Wabash
Johns Hopkins
Bridgewater
Gallaudet
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 06, 2014, 04:32:37 PM
Averett beats W&L to start the season? Did NOT see that coming.

Maryville beat Berry 41-14. MC had too many penalties and let the deep game beat them a few times. Berry was bitten by the turnover bug. 387 rush yds from MC. A lot to improve on, but solid opening game. Sr WR Ed Johnson did not play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 06, 2014, 05:17:20 PM
Huntingdon and Louisiana are knotted at 42 with 9 to play.

E&H runs Ferrum out of the stadium.

Methodist holds off SVU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 06, 2014, 05:44:28 PM
Hawks, DG..

That's heartbreaking. What a game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 06, 2014, 07:10:08 PM
the monarchs really didn't play well in the win today...reber had one of the worst games i've seen him play in the last few years - he held the ball too long at times, and wasn't as explosive in the run game, but he still finished 27-43 for 329, 2 td's and an int - radke dropped one certain td and another that could have been 6, but had 6 catches for 96 yds and 2 tds - the defense played well most of the day, but gave up a 99 yard td play - missed xp's and fg's, a blocked punt by svu (for a td) and one badly shanked punt, but a spectacular return by payne and 3 booming touchbacks by ausherman - just a weird game from that standpoint...some really nice stuff mixed with some really bad stuff - they will not beat guilford if they play that sloppy, but the talent is there...rb's ran really hard today and the wr corps is going to be solid - the offense was very balanced and ran 100 plays (43 pass, 57 rush)...they were REALLY fast for most of the first 3 quarters, then really slow for most of the 4th

best thing about the game is everyone appeared to be healthy and it was a win...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 06, 2014, 07:36:35 PM
LC and BSC tied at 7 at the end of the 1st QTR
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 06, 2014, 09:27:41 PM
Scots
I dont want to talk about it :)
Yall played well though
keep the faith

Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 06, 2014, 09:45:37 PM
28-26 LC with 1:28 left to go...BSC just scored and is going for two point conversion...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 06, 2014, 09:55:47 PM
28-28 overtime
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 06, 2014, 10:09:31 PM
LaGrange 34 BSC 28 in OT...go Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2014, 10:31:54 PM
CNU loses to Salisbury. It was a weird game. CNU never gave up and played hard until the last play.  Too many mistakes. Special teams were horrible. Defense couldn't stop the option. I thought they had it figured out last year. And coaches need to make sure the team starts hydrating in Wednesday. Cu was cramping every play. SU wasn't. 41-32. Offense impressed me. Passing game was better Thani can remember ever seeing. But then, CNU puts in a backup running QB in second qt. not sure what that was about. Luckily they put Morast back in. He hit some long passes. Was fun to watch. CNU will score some points!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 06, 2014, 10:34:32 PM
CNU, fun game to watch.  CNU kept playing, but Salisbury made enough plays to win the game.  Big game next week against Hampden.  Good luck.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 06, 2014, 10:41:19 PM
Thanks Wesleydad. For first time I can remember the CNU offense is ahead of defense. CNU top 2 deep threats had 5 catches each for a total of 215 yds. Very nice to see deep connections. #5 Rudolph almst made another long reception, jumping over a defender, but it fell out when he hit the ground. Looking forward to next week. And it looks like next season we will be seeing more of each other!! 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 06, 2014, 10:54:16 PM
Quick synopsis of the LC/BSC game:

http://www.lagrangepanthers.com/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20140906fu6dbp (http://www.lagrangepanthers.com/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20140906fu6dbp)

LC had three fumbles and an interception and still managed to win the game. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 06, 2014, 11:06:30 PM
In other news, Guilford gave the ODAC a 2-1 advantage over the USASouth by dismantling Greensboro 52-0. Ouch.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 07, 2014, 01:12:46 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 06, 2014, 11:06:30 PM
In other news, Guilford gave the ODAC a 2-1 advantage over the USASouth by dismantling Greensboro 52-0. Ouch.
Guilford played very well, but you could tell Greensboro's in for a long season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on September 06, 2014, 10:09:31 PM
LaGrange 34 BSC 28 in OT...go Panthers!

That's a big win for LC to start the year.

What's up with the new unis? Is it me, or is there no red?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 07, 2014, 11:28:27 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 06, 2014, 09:27:41 PM
Scots
I dont want to talk about it :)
Yall played well though
keep the faith

Go Hawks
I didn't get to see the 4th quarter but you know how it goes, those special teams mistakes will beat you every time. Obviously stuff to fix there. Considering the time from our first score to our last was 42 points in less than two quarters, if we can get that type of output for 60 minutes there shouldn't be to many worries about the offense but we haven't had to worry about offensive output for a long time anyway. On defense, still too many times that we make two good plays but then can't make the stop on third down to get off the field. Overall not too bad for a first game with a lot of new people.
A lot of work to do to get ready for a big one with BSC this week.

You going to make it there Saturday night, DG?

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 12:31:50 PM
What's more shocking?

Averett winning the opening game under their new head coach
or
Greensboro/Guilford score?

It's a toss up for me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 07, 2014, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 12:31:50 PM
What's more shocking?

Averett winning the opening game under their new head coach
or
Greensboro/Guilford score?

It's a toss up for me.

I'd say Averett but it's a close thing. W&L just isn't the team they were a couple years ago, especially on offense. They also haven't won a road opener since the 1960s. Hats off to Averett. They were well prepared for the Generals and forced W&L to chase. That is not something W&L is built to do. Fumbles on the goal line and 10 penalties were just too much for a team with little margin for error this season.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 07, 2014, 12:53:54 PM
That Guilford blew out Greensboro, not too much of a shock. That it was a shutout is a surprise. Averett beating W&L? Definitely a shocker.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 01:32:16 PM
Does anyone know what's up with Throndset? I think he was 7-22 for less than 100 yards? ???
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 07, 2014, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 01:32:16 PM
Does anyone know what's up with Throndset? I think he was 7-22 for less than 100 yards? ???
He had 70 yards ... Guilford was in the backfield often last night.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 01:48:52 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 07, 2014, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 01:32:16 PM
Does anyone know what's up with Throndset? I think he was 7-22 for less than 100 yards? ???
He had 70 yards ... Guilford was in the backfield often last night.

Yikes.

Let's see what Guilford's D can do against Reber & Co. this Saturday. It has all the makings of a great game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 07, 2014, 02:25:17 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 01:48:52 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 07, 2014, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 01:32:16 PM
Does anyone know what's up with Throndset? I think he was 7-22 for less than 100 yards? ???
He had 70 yards ... Guilford was in the backfield often last night.

Yikes.

Let's see what Guilford's D can do against Reber & Co. this Saturday. It has all the makings of a great game.
Yeah, it does.  Another intrastate series that's gaining some momentum ... Guilford and Methodist have played every year since the Monarchs started football in the late '80s.  I spoke with GCQ Coach Rusiewicz briefly after the Soup Bowl ... he's well aware that MU will be a much tougher test.  I'm really glad the game's at Guilford this year.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 07, 2014, 04:40:10 PM
I had noticed during the game yesterday the Huntingdon's 6'5 Sr WR Taylor Belsterling wasn't playing. Today I look at the roster and he isn't there any more. That's a big loss. Wondering what happened.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 05:04:18 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 07, 2014, 04:40:10 PM
I had noticed during the game yesterday the Huntingdon's 6'5 Sr WR Taylor Belsterling wasn't playing. Today I look at the roster and he isn't there any more. That's a big loss. Wondering what happened.

Woah. He has the size and the ability to make a game for HC. Coach Turk mentioned him during media day, so assume he was expecting him back..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 07, 2014, 07:51:38 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on September 06, 2014, 10:09:31 PM
LaGrange 34 BSC 28 in OT...go Panthers!

That's a big win for LC to start the year.

What's up with the new unis? Is it me, or is there no red?

The new uniforms are not in.  LaGrange College became an Under Armour school this season and the football jerseys which were specially made for LC are not ready.  UA sent these uniforms to us because of the delay.  We will have red in our uniforms this season when the new ones arrive.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 07:56:46 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on September 07, 2014, 07:51:38 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on September 06, 2014, 10:09:31 PM
LaGrange 34 BSC 28 in OT...go Panthers!

That's a big win for LC to start the year.

What's up with the new unis? Is it me, or is there no red?

The new uniforms are not in.  LaGrange College became an Under Armour school this season and the football jerseys which were specially made for LC are not ready.  UA sent these uniforms to us because of the delay.  We will have red in our uniforms this season when the new ones arrive.

I see. Well that's pretty cool they sent the school a set for the game. They were nice unis too...not scrubs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 07, 2014, 08:32:22 PM
Under Armour has been really good to LaGrange College.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 07, 2014, 09:01:13 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 07:56:46 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on September 07, 2014, 07:51:38 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 07, 2014, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on September 06, 2014, 10:09:31 PM
LaGrange 34 BSC 28 in OT...go Panthers!

That's a big win for LC to start the year.

What's up with the new unis? Is it me, or is there no red?
But what if the players are superstitious?

Why change something during a win-streak?

The new uniforms are not in.  LaGrange College became an Under Armour school this season and the football jerseys which were specially made for LC are not ready.  UA sent these uniforms to us because of the delay.  We will have red in our uniforms this season when the new ones arrive.

I see. Well that's pretty cool they sent the school a set for the game. They were nice unis too...not scrubs.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
narch, are you coming to Guilford Saturday night?  If you do, give me a heads up so I can say hello.  It should be a good, well-attended game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 08, 2014, 01:02:43 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
narch, are you coming to Guilford Saturday night?  If you do, give me a heads up so I can say hello.  It should be a good, well-attended game.
will be at a wedding...probably won't even be able to watch the stream
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: narch on September 08, 2014, 01:02:43 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
narch, are you coming to Guilford Saturday night?  If you do, give me a heads up so I can say hello.  It should be a good, well-attended game.
will be at a wedding...probably won't even be able to watch the stream
Ah, been there, done that.  As my brothers and I ask, "Who schedules a wedding during football season?"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 08, 2014, 02:08:35 PM
just looked over the box score from the game saturday with a little more scrutiny, and perhaps i was a bit harsh on the monarchs in my initial analysis...in the first half of that game, they ran 57 plays for 384 yards and were up 33-7 at half-time (with the only svu score a blocked punt returned for a td) - reber was 18-27 for 236 yards, 2 td's and 1 int at half-time

perhaps the game felt so "blah" because the second half was a bit "blah"...and maybe that was by design - 47 players got game action, the monarchs seemed very content to run the ball and milk the clock more than usual...the offense wasn't nearly as wide open - perhaps coach goss and staff said to themselves "let's not put too much on film for the quakers"...at least that's what i hope

i still think that there are a lot of little things the monarchs MUST do before the game this weekend if they plan to win...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 08, 2014, 02:14:59 PM
That's exactly my sentiments on the Maryville game. It's week 2 and it's time to get to work against the ODAC. Time to go to work.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on September 08, 2014, 04:08:00 PM
Got a chance to watch Methodist play the first half online. Lots of positives to take away from that half, seemed to be some break downs in the 2nd half from what I read, but I am sure that will get cleaned up. Really looking forward to being on campus for homecoming!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 08, 2014, 05:06:55 PM
narch, I am pretty high on your monarchs.  Have them up there in my south region poll.  Looking forward to see how the game goes on Saturday against Guilford.  Wont be able to catch it online, I will be in Salisbury for the Wesley game, but it doesnt start until 6.  Good luck this weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 09, 2014, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: narch on September 08, 2014, 01:02:43 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
narch, are you coming to Guilford Saturday night?  If you do, give me a heads up so I can say hello.  It should be a good, well-attended game.
will be at a wedding...probably won't even be able to watch the stream
Ah, been there, done that.  As my brothers and I ask, "Who schedules a wedding during football season?"

Exactly! I'm heading to a wedding on Saturday as well.....4pm....middle of (*$!&%^%&$*)$&@ day!!

The dude needs to turn in his man card!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 09, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2014, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: narch on September 08, 2014, 01:02:43 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
narch, are you coming to Guilford Saturday night?  If you do, give me a heads up so I can say hello.  It should be a good, well-attended game.
will be at a wedding...probably won't even be able to watch the stream
Ah, been there, done that.  As my brothers and I ask, "Who schedules a wedding during football season?"

Exactly! I'm heading to a wedding on Saturday as well.....4pm....middle of (*$!&%^%&$*)$&@ day!!

The dude needs to turn in his man card!

I've got the same problem in October except the guy made it even worse.  2 p.m. wedding, 6 p.m. reception. even worse i'm in the dang thing, so i have to show up early, and I've got to be there for the rehearsal waste of time Friday night...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 09, 2014, 11:00:55 AM
http://www.lagrangepanthers.com/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/2014090865opyo (http://www.lagrangepanthers.com/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/2014090865opyo)

I bet we will be hearing a lot more from these two gentlemen.

Go Panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 09, 2014, 11:02:16 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2014, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: narch on September 08, 2014, 01:02:43 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
narch, are you coming to Guilford Saturday night?  If you do, give me a heads up so I can say hello.  It should be a good, well-attended game.
will be at a wedding...probably won't even be able to watch the stream
Ah, been there, done that.  As my brothers and I ask, "Who schedules a wedding during football season?"

Exactly! I'm heading to a wedding on Saturday as well.....4pm....middle of (*$!&%^%&$*)$&@ day!!

The dude needs to turn in his man card!
You're right ... it's revoked!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 09, 2014, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 09, 2014, 11:02:16 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2014, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: narch on September 08, 2014, 01:02:43 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
narch, are you coming to Guilford Saturday night?  If you do, give me a heads up so I can say hello.  It should be a good, well-attended game.
will be at a wedding...probably won't even be able to watch the stream
Ah, been there, done that.  As my brothers and I ask, "Who schedules a wedding during football season?"
Exactly! I'm heading to a wedding on Saturday as well.....4pm....middle of (*$!&%^%&$*)$&@ day!!

The dude needs to turn in his man card!
You're right ... it's revoked!
It's okay to have a wedding during football season. You just have to do it the right way like me and my wife. We got married Iron Bowl weekend. Went to Gatlinburg, just the two of us on Friday. Then called everyone, "Hey, guess what?" Then us and everyone can enjoy the games on Saturday.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 09, 2014, 08:08:11 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 09, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2014, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: narch on September 08, 2014, 01:02:43 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
narch, are you coming to Guilford Saturday night?  If you do, give me a heads up so I can say hello.  It should be a good, well-attended game.
will be at a wedding...probably won't even be able to watch the stream
Ah, been there, done that.  As my brothers and I ask, "Who schedules a wedding during football season?"

Exactly! I'm heading to a wedding on Saturday as well.....4pm....middle of (*$!&%^%&$*)$&@ day!!

The dude needs to turn in his man card!

I've got the same problem in October except the guy made it even worse.  2 p.m. wedding, 6 p.m. reception. even worse i'm in the dang thing, so i have to show up early, and I've got to be there for the rehearsal waste of time Friday night...
I know a guy whose wife is a bride's maid; their son is the ringbearer in her best friend's wedding.

He is gonna watch the Iron Bowl on his I-PAD.   :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 10, 2014, 02:43:27 PM
MC's Maurice Walker, Fr WR, earns USAC play of the week with his one handed catch Saturday against Berry. Congrats to him for a big play and big game in his college debut-also caught a touchdown.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 11, 2014, 11:13:56 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 09, 2014, 08:08:11 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 09, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2014, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: narch on September 08, 2014, 01:02:43 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
narch, are you coming to Guilford Saturday night?  If you do, give me a heads up so I can say hello.  It should be a good, well-attended game.
will be at a wedding...probably won't even be able to watch the stream
Ah, been there, done that.  As my brothers and I ask, "Who schedules a wedding during football season?"

Exactly! I'm heading to a wedding on Saturday as well.....4pm....middle of (*$!&%^%&$*)$&@ day!!

The dude needs to turn in his man card!

I've got the same problem in October except the guy made it even worse.  2 p.m. wedding, 6 p.m. reception. even worse i'm in the dang thing, so i have to show up early, and I've got to be there for the rehearsal waste of time Friday night...
I know a guy whose wife is a bride's maid; their son is the ringbearer in her best friend's wedding.

He is gonna watch the Iron Bowl on his I-PAD.   :D

He gets a Gold Man Card!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2014, 11:29:50 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 11, 2014, 11:13:56 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 09, 2014, 08:08:11 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 09, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 09, 2014, 09:44:15 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: narch on September 08, 2014, 01:02:43 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 08, 2014, 08:57:48 AM
narch, are you coming to Guilford Saturday night?  If you do, give me a heads up so I can say hello.  It should be a good, well-attended game.
will be at a wedding...probably won't even be able to watch the stream
Ah, been there, done that.  As my brothers and I ask, "Who schedules a wedding during football season?"

Exactly! I'm heading to a wedding on Saturday as well.....4pm....middle of (*$!&%^%&$*)$&@ day!!

The dude needs to turn in his man card!

I've got the same problem in October except the guy made it even worse.  2 p.m. wedding, 6 p.m. reception. even worse i'm in the dang thing, so i have to show up early, and I've got to be there for the rehearsal waste of time Friday night...
I know a guy whose wife is a bride's maid; their son is the ringbearer in her best friend's wedding.

He is gonna watch the Iron Bowl on his I-PAD.   :D

He gets a Gold Man Card!
A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do ...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 11, 2014, 11:49:08 AM
great ATN article on mu lb bryan bing by mr. ryan tipps on the d3football.com (http://d3football.com/landing/index) home page...check it out here (http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/2014/methodist-linebacker-bryan-bing-follows-his-heart) - go monarchs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2014, 12:00:15 PM
Quote from: narch on September 11, 2014, 11:49:08 AM
great ATN article on mu lb bryan bing by mr. ryan tipps on the d3football.com (http://d3football.com/landing/index) home page...check it out here (http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/2014/methodist-linebacker-bryan-bing-follows-his-heart) - go monarchs!
I read it.  I hope he has 9 great games this year.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on September 11, 2014, 01:06:32 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 11, 2014, 12:00:15 PM
Quote from: narch on September 11, 2014, 11:49:08 AM
great ATN article on mu lb bryan bing by mr. ryan tipps on the d3football.com (http://d3football.com/landing/index) home page...check it out here (http://d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/2014/methodist-linebacker-bryan-bing-follows-his-heart) - go monarchs!
I read it.  I hope he has 9 great games this year.  :)

HAHA spoken like a true fan! Great story and well written article. Says a lot about Coach Goss and the staff at MU as well. That time out, learning things from the coaching side will truly help him grow.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 11, 2014, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: jbyrd on September 11, 2014, 01:06:32 PM
HAHA spoken like a true fan! Great story and well written article. Says a lot about Coach Goss and the staff at MU as well. That time out, learning things from the coaching side will truly help him grow.
spoken like a coach :), but i agree

i hope mr. bing will enroll in the mu master of justice administration program next fall and play out his eligibility while getting his master's degree

'nova - since the first game was just a REALLY GOOD game, not a GREAT game, i agree with you...hope he has 9 GREAT games this season...starting this weekend :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2014, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: narch on September 11, 2014, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: jbyrd on September 11, 2014, 01:06:32 PM
HAHA spoken like a true fan! Great story and well written article. Says a lot about Coach Goss and the staff at MU as well. That time out, learning things from the coaching side will truly help him grow.
spoken like a coach :), but i agree

i hope mr. bing will enroll in the mu master of justice administration program next fall and play out his eligibility while getting his master's degree

'nova - since the first game was just a REALLY GOOD game, not a GREAT game, i agree with you...hope he has 9 GREAT games this season...starting this weekend :)
Is it too late to change my statement to "one good game and EIGHT great games"?  lol
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on September 11, 2014, 10:56:18 PM
Very disappointed in CNU's defense....I think I could have run for 50 yards against it.  We'll see if they can turn it around against a totally different offense, but I'm not optimistic....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on September 12, 2014, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 11, 2014, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: narch on September 11, 2014, 01:20:14 PM
Quote from: jbyrd on September 11, 2014, 01:06:32 PM
HAHA spoken like a true fan! Great story and well written article. Says a lot about Coach Goss and the staff at MU as well. That time out, learning things from the coaching side will truly help him grow.
spoken like a coach :), but i agree

i hope mr. bing will enroll in the mu master of justice administration program next fall and play out his eligibility while getting his master's degree

'nova - since the first game was just a REALLY GOOD game, not a GREAT game, i agree with you...hope he has 9 GREAT games this season...starting this weekend :)
Is it too late to change my statement to "one good game and EIGHT great games"?  lol

If one of them can be a playoff game, sure!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 12, 2014, 11:35:48 AM
Big weekend for the USAC...in no particular order:

LaGrange v. Berry
Huntingdon v. BSC
Maryville v. Emory & Henry
CNU v. HSC
Methodist v. Guilford

These five teams will go 5-0 this weekend. 

HC/BSC - Shootout with HC hanging on for the win in the final minute
LC/BC - LC should win this pretty handily
MC/EHC - Maryville by two touchdowns
CNU - HSC - this one will be very close with CNU winning but 3
MU/GC - toughtest game to call but I believe MU has the offensive firepower to stay with anyone and will win this game by 7
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 12, 2014, 01:42:09 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on September 11, 2014, 10:56:18 PM
Very disappointed in CNU's defense....I think I could have run for 50 yards against it.  We'll see if they can turn it around against a totally different offense, but I'm not optimistic....
hsc will present a difficult and entirely different challenge than salisbury, that's for sure...i think this should be a great game - i agree with ben stein that the usasac has a chance to flex a little this weekend with some high-profile match-ups - i hope that all of his predictions are accurate, but i really hope that the last of his predictions is accurate

i would feel so much better about this weekend for mu if gcq hadn't frog-stomped gc and if mu hadn't sputtered in the second half against svu - if this monarch team is going to be a legit contender for the conference championship, i think they have to take care of business this weekend - i know that gc appears to have gotten worse, but tguilford needed a last minute score to beat gc by 3 last year and they won 52-0 this year - it appears that guilford is MUCH improved...and the mu/gcq game last year was competitive (although not as close as the score would lead you to believe)

as good as pawlowski is for gcq (and i think he's really good), i think the key for mu is stopping the gcq running game and forcing the quakers into obvious passing downs - schow can really run it

should be a lot of fun for those who get to watch it...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 12, 2014, 01:59:05 PM
I think Methodist at Guilford is a fascinating game. Guilford put their faith in young players the last two years and this year and next year is when the payoff comes. I like Methodist a lot this year, mainly because I really like Reber, but with the game at Guilford I'm holding out for the ODAC team. I think Guilford has slightly more weapons outside of QB and I think Methodist has a better weapon at QB, so I don't know where that leaves me. I wouldn't lay money on this game because a) I don't gamble and b) I can't think of any compelling reason to bet one way or the other...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 12, 2014, 02:02:30 PM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on September 12, 2014, 11:35:48 AM
Big weekend for the USAC...in no particular order:

LaGrange v. Berry
Huntingdon v. BSC
Maryville v. Emory & Henry
CNU v. HSC
Methodist v. Guilford

These five teams will go 5-0 this weekend. 

HC/BSC - Shootout with HC hanging on for the win in the final minute
LC/BC - LC should win this pretty handily
MC/EHC - Maryville by two touchdowns
CNU - HSC - this one will be very close with CNU winning but 3
MU/GC - toughtest game to call but I believe MU has the offensive firepower to stay with anyone and will win this game by 7

I actually like your predictions and just like everyone mentioned and feels, the CNU vs. HS-C game is going to be very interesting. Last year I wasn't shocked in the outcome, I was shocked in the score and defensive dominance. I believe this year, as you aforementioned is going to be a very close game with CNU winning. However, if HS-C gets going and doesn't turn the ball over, those turnovers in the PY will be TD's and could potentially end up like the 2012 game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 13, 2014, 11:00:33 AM
Since Ferrum is off, not a lot to post about....any thoughts on Averett @ RMC?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 13, 2014, 12:59:34 PM
my prediction... mU 41 - gcq 38
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 13, 2014, 02:22:37 PM
At the half....NCWC  13 Lincoln  0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 13, 2014, 02:44:49 PM
At the half maryville 13 E&H 0
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 13, 2014, 03:29:32 PM
3 min. left in game      Bishops 27 Lincoln 0...(Hey, a  v is  a v .) We'll take it
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 13, 2014, 04:14:58 PM
3 minutes in the game and E&H is up 14-13. Not a good game by MC's offense.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 13, 2014, 05:37:52 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 13, 2014, 04:14:58 PM
3 minutes in the game and E&H is up 14-13. Not a good game by MC's offense.
I see where E&H held off MC on the road, 14-13.  A bit of an upset in my mind.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 13, 2014, 08:59:42 PM
Unbelievable...LC and BC are heading to overtime 14-14...LC FG blocked at the end of regulation
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 13, 2014, 09:10:26 PM
2nd week in a row...2OT 21-21 LC/BC tied
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 13, 2014, 09:24:38 PM
In the 2nd OT, Berry goes for the fake Extra-Point and misses...final LC wins 28-27

Great game by Coach K and Berry College...much tougher win than I thought it would be
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 13, 2014, 09:57:44 PM
wow...just wow...pawlowski had himself a game and the monarch defense proved to be the monarch defense...lots of work to do...lots

hats off to guilford - they came to play and stopped a 5 game mu win streak in this series
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 13, 2014, 10:29:47 PM
Quote from: narch on September 13, 2014, 09:57:44 PM
wow...just wow...pawlowski had himself a game and the monarch defense proved to be the monarch defense...lots of work to do...lots

hats off to guilford - they came to play and stopped a 5 game mu win streak in this series
Thanks, narch.  I was surprised by the score, but GC was clicking.  I think MU will recover.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 13, 2014, 10:45:06 PM
It appears that I am not a very good prognosticator...

LC barely wins against Berry
MU, MC, and CNU didn't win
HC wins but not in the shootout that I thought would happen
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 13, 2014, 10:58:52 PM
Great Win For the Huntingdon Hawks
We couldnt be there... Ms Jayne and I just had our 40th anniversary. But...priorities, i kept up with the game ;)

Got to show up and play well next weekend @ Methodist

Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 14, 2014, 12:20:42 AM
Yes, great win for the Hawks. Great job by Luke Bailey coming off the bench to play basically the whole game at QB when Taylor Hughes got hurt. Also great job by our defense to keep BSC in check until the offense could get it together in the second half.

Lots of work to do to get ready for Methodist next week. Go Hawks!

In a bit of a weird moment from tonight's game, I ran into an old classmate that I had not seen in a long time and he said he was there to see his brother play. We graduated in 1988. Think about that for minute.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 14, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 14, 2014, 12:20:42 AM
Yes, great win for the Hawks. Great job by Luke Bailey coming off the bench to play basically the whole game at QB when Taylor Hughes got hurt. Also great job by our defense to keep BSC in check until the offense could get it together in the second half.

Lots of work to do to get ready for Methodist next week. Go Hawks!

In a bit of a weird moment from tonight's game, I ran into an old classmate that I had not seen in a long time and he said he was there to see his brother play. We graduated in 1988. Think about that for minute.
LOL

Brother, and not half-brother or step-brother?

Obstetrically speaking, that sounds like an "oops" to me!  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 14, 2014, 01:40:07 PM
Narch
Did not see 50+ bro. Is GC-Q that good?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 14, 2014, 02:25:01 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 14, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 14, 2014, 12:20:42 AM
Yes, great win for the Hawks. Great job by Luke Bailey coming off the bench to play basically the whole game at QB when Taylor Hughes got hurt. Also great job by our defense to keep BSC in check until the offense could get it together in the second half.

Lots of work to do to get ready for Methodist next week. Go Hawks!

In a bit of a weird moment from tonight's game, I ran into an old classmate that I had not seen in a long time and he said he was there to see his brother play. We graduated in 1988. Think about that for minute.
LOL

Brother, and not half-brother or step-brother?

Obstetrically speaking, that sounds like an "oops" to me!  ;)
I know it isn't a step-brother. They have the same father but I didn't think to ask if they had the same mother. It's possible they are half. When we were talking about the age difference I said "Wow" and he pointed at his dad and said "That's what he said." LOL
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 14, 2014, 10:22:35 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 14, 2014, 01:40:07 PM
Narch
Did not see 50+ bro. Is GC-Q that good?
i think the quakers are really good and i think the monarchs played really poorly yesterday...seems to happen at least once a year (see e&h last year)...but i didn't see a single down of the game, so it's hard to say how good they are beyond the impressive statistics they put up

bottom line, the monarch lost nothing more than a game yesterday - they weren't going to host a tournament game even if they went 10-0 and they are still tied for first place in the conference :)

...now as for conference play, they cannot play the way they did this weekend against huntindon, or they will lose badly again
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 15, 2014, 10:23:33 AM
Thanks Narch man
You know when I blow something I'll eat it but I just think GC-Q (and I know NOVA skulks about) may not hold up. I've seen a couple flashes over the years but GC-Q reminds me of the NO Saints of the 80's.

Win enough to get people excited then without WARNING: a head is rolling around in a basket.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on September 16, 2014, 02:38:23 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 15, 2014, 10:23:33 AM
Thanks Narch man
You know when I blow something I'll eat it but I just think GC-Q (and I know NOVA skulks about) may not hold up. I've seen a couple flashes over the years but GC-Q reminds me of the NO Saints of the 80's.

Win enough to get people excited then without WARNING: a head is rolling around in a basket.  ;)

I watched some of the game online. GCQ QB looked really good, spread the ball around well and was very difficult to defend. MU made their share of mistakes, and GCQ took care of business. Just like always, you have a few hrs to celebrate or sulk, then its time to move on to the next week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 16, 2014, 06:13:58 PM
Quote from: jbyrd on September 16, 2014, 02:38:23 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on September 15, 2014, 10:23:33 AM
Thanks Narch man
You know when I blow something I'll eat it but I just think GC-Q (and I know NOVA skulks about) may not hold up. I've seen a couple flashes over the years but GC-Q reminds me of the NO Saints of the 80's.

Win enough to get people excited then without WARNING: a head is rolling around in a basket.  ;)

I watched some of the game online. GCQ QB looked really good, spread the ball around well and was very difficult to defend. MU made their share of mistakes, and GCQ took care of business. Just like always, you have a few hrs to celebrate or sulk, then its time to move on to the next week!
jbyrd-thanks. I am just trying to stay with Grizzly and Jknezek in a ODAC pool.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 16, 2014, 08:02:36 PM
Took me a couple of years but I finally remembered my password ;)


Abn...I'm glad to see you're still kicking around.  Narch, you're due for a 22 North trip! Bring abn and jbyrd with you when you come!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 16, 2014, 09:55:11 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 16, 2014, 08:02:36 PM
Took me a couple of years but I finally remembered my password ;)


Abn...I'm glad to see you're still kicking around.  Narch, you're due for a 22 North trip! Bring abn and jbyrd with you when you come!
Welcome back.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 16, 2014, 11:39:25 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 16, 2014, 08:02:36 PM
Took me a couple of years but I finally remembered my password ;)


Abn...I'm glad to see you're still kicking around.  Narch, you're due for a 22 North trip! Bring abn and jbyrd with you when you come!

Well Papi. I thought you got whacked BRO!! I have missed you and your playful male banter. ;) I take it; you have been working for a 3 letter agency and enjoying the sweeping up of the worlds detritus. :)

Okay this is what has happened. I started wearing underwear
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on September 17, 2014, 04:46:57 PM
According to CNU's website, the defense returned eight starters from last year....if that's accurate, how does CNU go from allowing 10 and 7 to 41 and 35?  I was hoping for a lot more from the defense, but I'm pleasantly surprised to see that the offense has started well.  I'm looking forward to a very interesting conference season....should be very competitive.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 17, 2014, 04:59:23 PM
Congrats to Alston and Marshall for Offensive and defensive players of the week.   Go Bishops!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 18, 2014, 01:42:50 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 16, 2014, 08:02:36 PM
Took me a couple of years but I finally remembered my password ;)


Abn...I'm glad to see you're still kicking around.  Narch, you're due for a 22 North trip! Bring abn and jbyrd with you when you come!
papi...good to see you back - i'll be in the area the 2nd week of october...a trip to 22 north is def. on the agenda and i've got no problem if jbyrd comes along, but abnrgr scares me - i'm ok with him as some anonymous poster on the internet, but i'm not sure i want him to know what i look like, just in case i ever make him mad :)

of course, if jbyrd comes along, we'll have plenty of muscle to deal with abnrgr...he can come, but ONLY if jbyrd is there :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 18, 2014, 01:44:53 PM
i hope the monarchs have been brought back down to earth by this past weekend and are ready to roll on saturday
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on September 18, 2014, 01:56:03 PM
Quote from: narch on September 18, 2014, 01:42:50 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 16, 2014, 08:02:36 PM
Took me a couple of years but I finally remembered my password ;)


Abn...I'm glad to see you're still kicking around.  Narch, you're due for a 22 North trip! Bring abn and jbyrd with you when you come!
papi...good to see you back - i'll be in the area the 2nd week of october...a trip to 22 north is def. on the agenda and i've got no problem if jbyrd comes along, but abnrgr scares me - i'm ok with him as some anonymous poster on the internet, but i'm not sure i want him to know what i look like, just in case i ever make him mad :)

of course, if jbyrd comes along, we'll have plenty of muscle to deal with abnrgr...he can come, but ONLY if jbyrd is there :)

HAHA Last time I had a few with AdmiralPapi it did not end so well!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ExTartanPlayer on September 18, 2014, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: jbyrd on September 18, 2014, 01:56:03 PM
Quote from: narch on September 18, 2014, 01:42:50 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 16, 2014, 08:02:36 PM
Took me a couple of years but I finally remembered my password ;)

Abn...I'm glad to see you're still kicking around.  Narch, you're due for a 22 North trip! Bring abn and jbyrd with you when you come!
papi...good to see you back - i'll be in the area the 2nd week of october...a trip to 22 north is def. on the agenda and i've got no problem if jbyrd comes along, but abnrgr scares me - i'm ok with him as some anonymous poster on the internet, but i'm not sure i want him to know what i look like, just in case i ever make him mad :)

of course, if jbyrd comes along, we'll have plenty of muscle to deal with abnrgr...he can come, but ONLY if jbyrd is there :)

HAHA Last time I had a few with AdmiralPapi it did not end so well!

jbyrd, I happen to "know" you from another corner of the Internets (hint: it's a website that starts with a "t" and talks about men lifting heavy things).

Good to see you posting here as well.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 18, 2014, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: jbyrd on September 18, 2014, 01:56:03 PM
HAHA Last time I had a few with AdmiralPapi it did not end so well!
papi probably started something he couldn't finish...just like a qb to stick his head in something and hope his ol will bail him out :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 18, 2014, 08:05:36 PM
Quote from: narch on September 18, 2014, 01:44:53 PM
i hope the monarchs have been brought back down to earth by this past weekend and are ready to roll on saturday
I hope the Monarchs have a great season, narch.  I sincerely believe the Quakers are going to be something special this year ... and I think they believe it too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 18, 2014, 10:54:17 PM
I'm not surprised that CNU topped the Bishops tonight, but I'll admit the game was a lot closer than I thought.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on September 19, 2014, 08:09:56 AM
Congrats to CNU on their victory over the Bishops last night.  The game was one of the most interesting I have seen in some time. Hard fought and well played. This Bishop team is one that I have seen improve each week. One thing I have noticed. They don't quit and they will put a hit on you. I think the Bishops may surprise some folks this year. They have some younger guys that really play.  A huge improvement in one year. They are on their way back guys. Very impressed with improvement from one week to another!  Go Bishops!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on September 19, 2014, 08:54:07 AM
Quote from: narch on September 18, 2014, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: jbyrd on September 18, 2014, 01:56:03 PM
HAHA Last time I had a few with AdmiralPapi it did not end so well!
papi probably started something he couldn't finish...just like a qb to stick his head in something and hope his ol will bail him out :)

I wish it was that cool of a story! More like I learned my lesson about eating chicken nuggets before going out haha!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on September 19, 2014, 08:56:05 AM
Quote from: ExTartanPlayer on September 18, 2014, 02:02:38 PM
Quote from: jbyrd on September 18, 2014, 01:56:03 PM
Quote from: narch on September 18, 2014, 01:42:50 PM
Quote from: AdmiralPapi on September 16, 2014, 08:02:36 PM
Took me a couple of years but I finally remembered my password ;)

Abn...I'm glad to see you're still kicking around.  Narch, you're due for a 22 North trip! Bring abn and jbyrd with you when you come!
papi...good to see you back - i'll be in the area the 2nd week of october...a trip to 22 north is def. on the agenda and i've got no problem if jbyrd comes along, but abnrgr scares me - i'm ok with him as some anonymous poster on the internet, but i'm not sure i want him to know what i look like, just in case i ever make him mad :)

of course, if jbyrd comes along, we'll have plenty of muscle to deal with abnrgr...he can come, but ONLY if jbyrd is there :)

HAHA Last time I had a few with AdmiralPapi it did not end so well!

jbyrd, I happen to "know" you from another corner of the Internets (hint: it's a website that starts with a "t" and talks about men lifting heavy things).

Good to see you posting here as well.

NICE! I been MIA from this board for awhile, but I wanted to be more supportive of MU so here I am!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 19, 2014, 10:09:19 AM
Made the trip to the game last night. The Bishops will surprise a few folks this year. Very explosive players! Great game to watch. I'm glad I made the trip. Time to focus on the Monarchs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 19, 2014, 12:54:01 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 19, 2014, 10:09:19 AM
Made the trip to the game last night. The Bishops will surprise a few folks this year. Very explosive players! Great game to watch. I'm glad I made the trip. Time to focus on the Monarchs!

I watch a bit of the Bishops games over the years and to me, they always had good skill guys.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on September 19, 2014, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 18, 2014, 10:54:17 PM
I'm not surprised that CNU topped the Bishops tonight, but I'll admit the game was a lot closer than I thought.

It was too close....still waiting for the CNU defense to show up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on September 19, 2014, 01:35:03 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on September 19, 2014, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 18, 2014, 10:54:17 PM
I'm not surprised that CNU topped the Bishops tonight, but I'll admit the game was a lot closer than I thought.

It was too close....still waiting for the CNU defense to show up.

It is very interesting, last year it was waiting for the offense to show up...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on September 19, 2014, 01:59:01 PM
CNU returned 17 starters this season....thank goodness the offense has played pretty well.  I guess I'm just surprised/disappointed so far....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 20, 2014, 09:32:55 AM
Looks like it's going to be a beautiful day for football in Fayetteville. Any of you Methodist guys going to be there?

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 20, 2014, 03:54:58 PM
MC 40 Averett 17.

AU's offense only put three on the board. Jones took a punt and KO to the house.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 20, 2014, 04:13:41 PM
Methodist defeats Huntingdon 41-34 in OT. Both teams were very impressive.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on September 20, 2014, 06:08:54 PM
  Can anyone shed any light on how Averett and Shenandoah ended up in a tie? Was it a weather situation?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2014, 06:23:16 PM
No ties -- that's a partial score for a game that hasn't started yet.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on September 20, 2014, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2014, 06:23:16 PM
No ties -- that's a partial score for a game that hasn't started yet.

OK, thanks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AdmiralPapi on September 20, 2014, 07:06:34 PM
Quote from: narch on September 18, 2014, 04:25:45 PM
Quote from: jbyrd on September 18, 2014, 01:56:03 PM
HAHA Last time I had a few with AdmiralPapi it did not end so well!
papi probably started something he couldn't finish...just like a qb to stick his head in something and hope his ol will bail him out :)

Narch...come on man, don't try to lump me in with these modern day "wear pink shirts and please don't hit me QB's"
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 20, 2014, 09:58:48 PM
hawks88 - looks like you had a great day to watch football, and a great game to watch (result notwithstanding for you) - it was my first missed home game in more than 3 years...the boy had a soccer game at the same time as the football game

i hope you found mu hospitable and it sounds like your hawks gave the monarchs everything they could handle...i'm happy for the win, but the mu defense has to step up
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 21, 2014, 01:09:21 AM
Just got home from the 7+ hour drive from Fayetteville. A very nice day and a very entertaining game. I feel like we should have won with the chance to pretty much put it way with a 6 point lead and 4th goal at the one with less than 5 minutes to go but got no points and it went from there.
Funny that this was your first home game missed in a while since the MU-HC game last year was my first home game missed in about 5 years.
MU has a beautiful campus and everyone we came across was friendly. Except for the game's outcome we had a very good weekend there. We went to the Airborne and Special Ops Museum Friday afternoon.  I highly recommend going if you haven't been. We spent two hours and could have stayed longer but hurried through the last parts after getting tired.

Hopefully we can get back on track next week at Murvul.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 21, 2014, 10:27:04 PM
Hawks
Glad to here yall made it khome safe.
hopefully we can turn the ship around. I will holler when i can head down to a game.
I cant make it to Murrval this year, hope our D shows up.
keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 22, 2014, 02:13:16 PM
This week's game between Methodist and CNU scares me! I think it will be one of those games where the team with the ball last will win.  CNU is averaging 31 PPG. Methodist 32.  CNU is giving up 35 PPG, Methodist 36. 

This game will be in the 40's for both teams, if not higher.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 22, 2014, 02:21:03 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 22, 2014, 02:13:16 PM
This week's game between Methodist and CNU scares me! I think it will be one of those games where the team with the ball last will win.  CNU is averaging 31 PPG. Methodist 32.  CNU is giving up 35 PPG, Methodist 36. 

This game will be in the 40's for both teams, if not higher.

Jesus. Talk about matching up. Hopefully CNU avenges last years loss and give another team a conference lost. Maryville has it's hands full this week with huntingdon. We need all the help with can get with the way out special teams are.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 22, 2014, 02:21:03 PM
We need all the help with can get with the way out special teams are.
You think you have special teams problems? Pardon me if I don't feel sorry for you.  ;)

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 22, 2014, 03:27:27 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 22, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 22, 2014, 02:21:03 PM
We need all the help with can get with the way out special teams are.
You think you have special teams problems? Pardon me if I don't feel sorry for you.  ;)

Go Hawks!

We might be in for a barn burner Saturday. It leaves a bad taste you your mouth when you give up 17 points and 14 because of returns. The defense has only given up 3 tds through three weeks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2014, 04:43:57 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 22, 2014, 03:27:27 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 22, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 22, 2014, 02:21:03 PM
We need all the help with can get with the way out special teams are.
You think you have special teams problems? Pardon me if I don't feel sorry for you.  ;)

Go Hawks!

We might be in for a barn burner Saturday. It leaves a bad taste you your mouth when you give up 17 points and 14 because of returns. The defense has only given up 3 tds through three weeks.
At least our coverage has been okay. It's the kicking part we seem to be having trouble with.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on September 24, 2014, 04:21:11 PM
Narch

What is your take on your big game vs. CNU ?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 24, 2014, 10:53:43 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 24, 2014, 04:21:11 PM
Narch

What is your take on your big game vs. CNU ?
should be a good one...if mu can score more points than cnu, i think they'll win :)

mu has their first-ever 2 game win streak vs. cnu and has won 3 of the last 5 contests with the captains, but the three wins in that time period were by a combined total of 5 points - the two mu losses were by much more than that - the last five years tell us that if mu wins, it will be close and if cnu wins it could be ugly for monarch fans - i think this could be a close, high-scoring affair

the mu offense needs to get going...despite scoring 30 ppg and putting up 472 ypg, the offense really hasn't looked like it is running on all 12 cylinders (yes, the monarch offense is a V12 :))...this weekend would be a good weekend to find that rhythm and get the offense humming - i hope that mu can run 85+ plays and get the tempo game going...i'm not sure cnu can handle that kind of tempo if mu can convert 3rd downs and go fast

broken record alert....the monarch defense needs to gear up, as well - over the last few years, i've  actually felt like mu matched up better with cnu defensively than almost any other team, because cnu struggled to throw the ball and that's the achilles for the mu defense, but it seems morrast has turned a corner, completing a high percentage and making their throwing game respectable - he still is prone to throwing the ball to the other team, but he is much more dangerous if he's complementing his legs with his arm

should be a fun game to watch!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 25, 2014, 08:10:06 AM
Quote from: narch on September 24, 2014, 10:53:43 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 24, 2014, 04:21:11 PM
Narch

What is your take on your big game vs. CNU ?
should be a good one...if mu can score more points than cnu, i think they'll win :)

mu has their first-ever 2 game win streak vs. cnu and has won 3 of the last 5 contests with the captains, but the three wins in that time period were by a combined total of 5 points - the two mu losses were by much more than that - the last five years tell us that if mu wins, it will be close and if cnu wins it could be ugly for monarch fans - i think this could be a close, high-scoring affair

the mu offense needs to get going...despite scoring 30 ppg and putting up 472 ypg, the offense really hasn't looked like it is running on all 12 cylinders (yes, the monarch offense is a V12 :))...this weekend would be a good weekend to find that rhythm and get the offense humming - i hope that mu can run 85+ plays and get the tempo game going...i'm not sure cnu can handle that kind of tempo if mu can convert 3rd downs and go fast

broken record alert....the monarch defense needs to gear up, as well - over the last few years, i've  actually felt like mu matched up better with cnu defensively than almost any other team, because cnu struggled to throw the ball and that's the achilles for the mu defense, but it seems morrast has turned a corner, completing a high percentage and making their throwing game respectable - he still is prone to throwing the ball to the other team, but he is much more dangerous if he's complementing his legs with his arm

should be a fun game to watch!

Should be an awesome game! Family weekend so the crowd should near or top 6,000. Fireworks gets them in every time!! And yes Morrast is throwing a lot more this year. 50-78 if I can add properly. The reason for that is the new QB coach who also calls the plays. The man has a ton of experience with D1 and the CFL (was head coach of Toronto for a bit).

The D is perplexing. I can't understand what is happening. 8 returning starters. Were the 3 losses that huge???

Also - Maryville fans.....I just booked my hotel for the game in November! I've never been...should be fun.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 25, 2014, 08:35:50 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 25, 2014, 08:10:06 AM
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Also - Maryville fans.....I just booked my hotel for the game in November! I've never been...should be fun.

You're going to like Maryville's campus. Plus you can spend some time in the Smokey Mountains before or after the game. Well worth the trip!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 25, 2014, 10:23:15 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 25, 2014, 08:10:06 AM
Quote from: narch on September 24, 2014, 10:53:43 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 24, 2014, 04:21:11 PM
Narch

What is your take on your big game vs. CNU ?
should be a good one...if mu can score more points than cnu, i think they'll win :)

mu has their first-ever 2 game win streak vs. cnu and has won 3 of the last 5 contests with the captains, but the three wins in that time period were by a combined total of 5 points - the two mu losses were by much more than that - the last five years tell us that if mu wins, it will be close and if cnu wins it could be ugly for monarch fans - i think this could be a close, high-scoring affair

the mu offense needs to get going...despite scoring 30 ppg and putting up 472 ypg, the offense really hasn't looked like it is running on all 12 cylinders (yes, the monarch offense is a V12 :))...this weekend would be a good weekend to find that rhythm and get the offense humming - i hope that mu can run 85+ plays and get the tempo game going...i'm not sure cnu can handle that kind of tempo if mu can convert 3rd downs and go fast

broken record alert....the monarch defense needs to gear up, as well - over the last few years, i've  actually felt like mu matched up better with cnu defensively than almost any other team, because cnu struggled to throw the ball and that's the achilles for the mu defense, but it seems morrast has turned a corner, completing a high percentage and making their throwing game respectable - he still is prone to throwing the ball to the other team, but he is much more dangerous if he's complementing his legs with his arm

should be a fun game to watch!

Should be an awesome game! Family weekend so the crowd should near or top 6,000. Fireworks gets them in every time!! And yes Morrast is throwing a lot more this year. 50-78 if I can add properly. The reason for that is the new QB coach who also calls the plays. The man has a ton of experience with D1 and the CFL (was head coach of Toronto for a bit).

The D is perplexing. I can't understand what is happening. 8 returning starters. Were the 3 losses that huge???

Also - Maryville fans.....I just booked my hotel for the game in November! I've never been...should be fun.

I suggest driving the parkway. It's about ten minutes from campus and has pull offs on both sides of the road. One side toward maryville/Knoxville and you can basically see all the way to Kentucky and the other side is miles and miles of mountains and valleys(and NC). It's a really realizing drive.

You can make the round trip (321/parkway/411) in about an hour. Many a nights were spent making that trip during the school year with just a diet Mountain Dew, can of Copenhagen and a crazy roommate playing dj.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on September 25, 2014, 02:27:59 PM
Big game this week! Every game now is basically a one game championship. Win the rest and you control your own fate. It has been nearly 10 years since I have suited up for Methodist and I still have a hate for CNU haha! One of the few places I never got a win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 25, 2014, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 25, 2014, 10:23:15 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 25, 2014, 08:10:06 AM
Quote from: narch on September 24, 2014, 10:53:43 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on September 24, 2014, 04:21:11 PM
Narch

What is your take on your big game vs. CNU ?
should be a good one...if mu can score more points than cnu, i think they'll win :)

mu has their first-ever 2 game win streak vs. cnu and has won 3 of the last 5 contests with the captains, but the three wins in that time period were by a combined total of 5 points - the two mu losses were by much more than that - the last five years tell us that if mu wins, it will be close and if cnu wins it could be ugly for monarch fans - i think this could be a close, high-scoring affair

the mu offense needs to get going...despite scoring 30 ppg and putting up 472 ypg, the offense really hasn't looked like it is running on all 12 cylinders (yes, the monarch offense is a V12 :))...this weekend would be a good weekend to find that rhythm and get the offense humming - i hope that mu can run 85+ plays and get the tempo game going...i'm not sure cnu can handle that kind of tempo if mu can convert 3rd downs and go fast

broken record alert....the monarch defense needs to gear up, as well - over the last few years, i've  actually felt like mu matched up better with cnu defensively than almost any other team, because cnu struggled to throw the ball and that's the achilles for the mu defense, but it seems morrast has turned a corner, completing a high percentage and making their throwing game respectable - he still is prone to throwing the ball to the other team, but he is much more dangerous if he's complementing his legs with his arm

should be a fun game to watch!

Should be an awesome game! Family weekend so the crowd should near or top 6,000. Fireworks gets them in every time!! And yes Morrast is throwing a lot more this year. 50-78 if I can add properly. The reason for that is the new QB coach who also calls the plays. The man has a ton of experience with D1 and the CFL (was head coach of Toronto for a bit).

The D is perplexing. I can't understand what is happening. 8 returning starters. Were the 3 losses that huge???

Also - Maryville fans.....I just booked my hotel for the game in November! I've never been...should be fun.

I suggest driving the parkway. It's about ten minutes from campus and has pull offs on both sides of the road. One side toward maryville/Knoxville and you can basically see all the way to Kentucky and the other side is miles and miles of mountains and valleys(and NC). It's a really realizing drive.

You can make the round trip (321/parkway/411) in about an hour. Many a nights were spent making that trip during the school year with just a diet Mountain Dew, can of Copenhagen and a crazy roommate playing dj.

I'm actually going to stay in Pigeons Forge. My daughter is in the Christmas show at the Opry. Thanks for the tips! I'm looking forward to the trip.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 25, 2014, 04:50:06 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 25, 2014, 08:35:50 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 25, 2014, 08:10:06 AM
[
Also - Maryville fans.....I just booked my hotel for the game in November! I've never been...should be fun.

You're going to like Maryville's campus. Plus you can spend some time in the Smokey Mountains before or after the game. Well worth the trip!

I'm going to drive out on Thursday and stay until Sunday!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 26, 2014, 08:58:11 AM

Quote from: jknezek on September 25, 2014, 08:35:50 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 25, 2014, 08:10:06 AM
[
Also - Maryville fans.....I just booked my hotel for the game in November! I've never been...should be fun.

You're going to like Maryville's campus. Plus you can spend some time in the Smokey Mountains before or after the game. Well worth the trip!

If you get good weather take the drive to Cades Cove. If you don't get good weather the aquarium in Gatlinberg is excellent. Eat at the Old Mill in Pigeon Forge. Go on a weekday since the wait can get ridiculous on weekends. My family goes every year for a few days, so if you want some other Pigeon Forge/Gatlinberg ideas let me know. Avoid the Jurassic Park ride at all costs. Just a waste of money...

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 27, 2014, 04:15:02 PM
Pitiful.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 27, 2014, 07:24:38 PM
This Methodist/CNU game is starting off fun to watch.  Plenty of O with little D on the other side to stop them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on September 27, 2014, 09:38:21 PM
I'm watching the CNU MU game. Right now it's 38 to 31 MU. win or lose Reber is a bad ass!  He's limping around with a knee hurting and just torching CNU.

Game is in OT now. The CNU QB has ran for nearly 200 and thrown for 300+. It's been a very fun game to watch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2014, 09:56:04 PM
we get to watch some silly football...one of these defenses needs to make a stop to give their team a win...c'mon monarchs!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2014, 10:08:34 PM
gutsy call here......shoulda gone for 2
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 27, 2014, 10:11:09 PM
I concur.  This has been fun to watch.  i disagree on the go for 2.  Do it when you have to.  Both QB's have been real good.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2014, 10:13:45 PM
morrast has been a beast...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2014, 10:14:36 PM
and he does it again...great win for the capts
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on September 27, 2014, 10:15:50 PM
WOW!  What a way to end the game.  Morast just would not be stopped.  Good win for CNU and tough loss for Methodist. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2014, 10:16:47 PM
not whining here, but i thought that was defensive pass interference on the 3rd down play...you get some calls, you don't get others, but that would have been big

the captains are in the driver's seat for the conference championship...the monarchs have to win out and hope the captains lose two

reber was awesome throwing the ball tonight...he's such a gamer
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2014, 10:26:17 PM
if you had patrick jacobs, rudy rudolph and anthony radke in your fantasy lineup this weekend, you won :)

jacobs - 10 catches, 219 yards, 3 td's
rudolph - 9 catches, 214 yards, 1 td
radke - 7 catches, 110 yards, 3 td's

the qb's were alright, too :)
reber - 35-49, 480 yards, 6 td's; 14 carries, -3 yds
morrast - 16-31, 310 yds, 4 td's, 1 int; 26 carries, 191 yards, 2 td's

morrast's legs have always bothered the monarchs, but he's really matured as a passer, and that made all the difference in this game - if this had been the old marcus morrast, the monarchs would have won going away, but his ability to throw the ball gave the captains the game - if cnu can get the defense turned around (tough to do in this conference...lots of high powered offensive teams), they could be REALLY good

meanwhile, the monarch defense is still waiting to get into pomoco...i think they were locked on the bus or something :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on September 27, 2014, 10:34:13 PM
The way he was limping around was absolutely gusty and yes definitely a gamer. I hope he's alright.

I watched an Appalchian St / Richmond game game in 2007 where QB Armanti Edwards ran for 313, passed for 182 had 4 TD runs and 3 more TDs passing. Morrast was not far off that performance tonight.  Morrast had 310 passing and 191 rushing 4 TDs passing 2 rushing, including the 25 yard game winner.  What a great performance.

Reber threw for 480 yards and 6 TDs. I cannot remember ever watching a game where both QBs did so much. 790 yards passing 10 TDs and 188 rushing and 2 rushing. Morrast did this while cramping up and Reber did this playing on one leg.

Very cool game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2014, 10:51:57 PM
result aside, it was an incredible football game to watch, as long as you don't like defense...i really liked coach goss' initial idea to go for two and i believe if reber's wheels were healthier, he would have even after the time out - even with bad wheels, i think that mu would have converted the 2 pt conversion - patrick jacobs is SO good after the catch, i would have thrown a little bubble to him on the 3 wide side and let him get low and into the end zone - i've always heard that you go for two on the road, one at home
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2014, 11:05:16 PM
I was at the game. Wow!!!!  I predicted on this board that the team with the ball last would win. Wow!!  Both QBs put on a show. Both were hurting. Morrast in the 4th was taking a knee between plays and even called some plays in the huddle on a knee. CNU coach had to call a timeout once because morrast couldn't get out of the huddle in time. Reber was hobbled. Both were hit hard. Neither could be stopped. Neither would give up. The radio announcer said he didnt think Morrast could walk another 25 yards much less run and break tackles. It was like watching an old Ali/Frazier fight. It really sucked that someone had to lose. Might be the best football game I've ever seen in person.

Now if CNU can get a D going again like last year when they gave up 12.7 per game. 8 returning starters. But lost the entire LB corp.

Back to the QBs. Almost 1,000 yards between them on total offense. Morrast had 501 total yards. I think Reber had 482. 480 in the air. And Rudolph gets 214 yards receiving and wasn't even the top receiver in the game. Crazy!!! Morrast with over 300 passing and almost 200 on the ground. He gets my vote for team of the week.

Like I said, sucks that MU had to get the L in this game. Wow!  What a game!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2014, 11:07:11 PM
Time to go read the stats. But get this.....12 TDs by the 2 QBs!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 27, 2014, 11:21:53 PM
Quote from: narch on September 27, 2014, 10:51:57 PM
result aside, it was an incredible football game to watch, as long as you don't like defense...i really liked coach goss' initial idea to go for two and i believe if reber's wheels were healthier, he would have even after the time out - even with bad wheels, i think that mu would have converted the 2 pt conversion - patrick jacobs is SO good after the catch, i would have thrown a little bubble to him on the 3 wide side and let him get low and into the end zone - i've always heard that you go for two on the road, one at home

No way you go for 2 on that. If he doesn't make it, then the conference title and a playoff spot is possibly over in the 2nd conference game of the year. Go for 1 and the tie and keep playing. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 27, 2014, 11:32:26 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 27, 2014, 11:21:53 PM
No way you go for 2 on that. If he doesn't make it, then the conference title and a playoff spot is possibly over in the 2nd conference game of the year. Go for 1 and the tie and keep playing. Just my opinion.
you're on the road, you've got momentum and you've got one of the worst defenses in the country...go for 2 and win it :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 28, 2014, 12:46:57 AM
Very solid road win for the Hawks. Jumped out to an early lead taking advantage of an early turnover and was able to keep the lead all day. One of the best games I've seen our DB's play as a group in a long time. Great job by that group in pass coverage and tackling. Great job by the whole team bouncing back after the disappointing loss last week.
Homecoming next week.
Go Hawks! Keep working and improving.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on September 28, 2014, 09:11:12 AM
Quote from: narch on September 27, 2014, 11:32:26 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 27, 2014, 11:21:53 PM
No way you go for 2 on that. If he doesn't make it, then the conference title and a playoff spot is possibly over in the 2nd conference game of the year. Go for 1 and the tie and keep playing. Just my opinion.
you're on the road, you've got momentum and you've got one of the worst defenses in the country...go for 2 and win it :)

I was hoping they did not go for it because either way the game would have been over. I was enjoying watching it too much for it to end.  But I agree with you Narch. Your QB is banged up, 1 play to win it. Reber certainly did not show anything to suggest he was not going to be anything but great - but he was dinged. I like the idea of 1 play and done if for no other reason it would have gotten Reber off the field for future hits.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on September 28, 2014, 12:15:17 PM
I was watching the CNU/MU game last night and I was screaming, go for it.

LaGrange College has to stop turning the ball over early in the game.  We keep on falling way behind only to play catch up in the 2nd help. 

Looking forward to the MC/LC game on Saturday.  LC needs to win to stay in the race for Conference champion.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on September 28, 2014, 02:01:49 PM
Quote from: narch on September 27, 2014, 11:32:26 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on September 27, 2014, 11:21:53 PM
No way you go for 2 on that. If he doesn't make it, then the conference title and a playoff spot is possibly over in the 2nd conference game of the year. Go for 1 and the tie and keep playing. Just my opinion.
you're on the road, you've got momentum and you've got one of the worst defenses in the country...go for 2 and win it :)

Brutal decision situation. But I have to go with the Narch. None of us know unless you are the one standing there amongst screaming nuts, in the heat, and the smell of your enemy's fear....I guess that's the reason I am in the stands
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 28, 2014, 03:11:05 PM
i applaud coach goss and his staff for most of the decisions they've made in the last two years, but i was very pleased when the offense was still on the field after the td in the first ot...i would rather lose with my best unit (offense) on the field than with the worst unit (defense) on the field...perhaps the intention was never to go for 2, but to make cnu burn a timeout, but i thought this was the perfect opportunity to grab a win - hindsight is 20/20 (although i first-guessed that decision) and there is no assurance that mu would have converted, but i think you've got to give reber, radke and jacobs the opportunity to win it for you - right now, they give you a much better chance to win than the defense does

back to work for the monarchs...the only thing they can do now is take care of their part (winning) and hope some craziness happens with cnu - the captains are really in the drivers seat early in the season, but i think huntingdon and maryville are both capable of beating anyone else in the conference, lc has a qb that can keep them in any game and ncwc and gc have some serious athletes that can turn a game, averett has proven to be a team that will battle and ferrum has reynolds, who is a special, special player - anything can happen over the next 7 weeks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 29, 2014, 05:32:17 PM
Hey Narch, I gave you a point (applaud)...I think your mention of Ferrum is the first this season, by anyone on the board but me....They are having a rough year, and it does not look like the next three weeks will bring much hope for the Panthers...CNU, Maryville, and Huntingdon. I watched the game against NCW, and FC showed some real character. Down 27-14 at halftime, they came back, and went ahead 30-27.....then NCW blocked a punt, and two plays later, they were ahead 34-30....Ferrum went right back down the field, and on 4th and 10, Reynolds threw a hail mary to Matthew Kennell who made a great catch between two defenders in the end zone, but (according to the ref) he was out of bounds....it was very very close. From there NCW ran out the clock. Ferrum has a good amount of freshmen starting, and there is a huge learning curve, but Saturday, things seemed to somewhat fall into place.
Ferrum had 319 yards of rushing, and 163 yards of passing. Except for the blocked punt, Ferrum completely outplayed NCW in the second half. Alston, who is amazing, was pretty much shut down in the second half. Oh well...Hope springs eternal in the heart of a real fan....no matter what the record.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 29, 2014, 08:06:33 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 28, 2014, 12:46:57 AM
Very solid road win for the Hawks. Jumped out to an early lead taking advantage of an early turnover and was able to keep the lead all day. One of the best games I've seen our DB's play as a group in a long time. Great job by that group in pass coverage and tackling. Great job by the whole team bouncing back after the disappointing loss last week.
Homecoming next week.
Go Hawks! Keep working and improving.

AMEN, Go Hawks
Hawks88, I am gonna try to ride down to the game, still got some 'Bushawging' to do, but gonna try
keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 30, 2014, 10:43:30 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 29, 2014, 08:06:33 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 28, 2014, 12:46:57 AM
Very solid road win for the Hawks. Jumped out to an early lead taking advantage of an early turnover and was able to keep the lead all day. One of the best games I've seen our DB's play as a group in a long time. Great job by that group in pass coverage and tackling. Great job by the whole team bouncing back after the disappointing loss last week.
Homecoming next week.
Go Hawks! Keep working and improving.

AMEN, Go Hawks
Hawks88, I am gonna try to ride down to the game, still got some 'Bushawging' to do, but gonna try
keep the faith
Hope to see you there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on September 30, 2014, 12:19:38 PM
What an incredible, gutsy effort by CNU's quarterback, Marcus Morrast.  His performance was, w/out a doubt, the best individual play I've ever seen at Pomoco.  He's not super talented and doesn't have good size, but he makes up for it w/determination and heart....make no mistake, that kid is a football player, my friends.  Reber's good, and he had a great game (can really sling it), but #12 outplayed him Saturday night.

I also saw great sportsmanship from Morrast and Reber when they met at midfield for the OT coin toss.  You could tell they had a mutual respect for one another....

I spent all day Sunday putting up "Missing" flyers around Newport News, as CNU's defense has yet to show up this season, which still baffles me.  There were times when they were just awful....my only hope is that they improve week by week.

As they say, a win is a win, and I'll take it, but there's a long way to go....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 30, 2014, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on September 30, 2014, 12:19:38 PM
I also saw great sportsmanship from Morrast and Reber when they met at midfield for the OT coin toss.  You could tell they had a mutual respect for one another....
i noticed that, too...really classy move by two guys who left EVERYTHING on the field saturday night

i'm not sure i agree that morrast "outplayed" reber...they both played about as well as you can expect a qb to play and it's tough to say one was any better than the other - morrast surely put his team on his capable back and willed them to win, though
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 30, 2014, 01:46:52 PM
it's an off-week, so i'm playing around with stats a little this week...

first up -  the game on saturday - exactly half of mu's plays went for more than 3 yards, so there was a 50/50 chance that mu would have converted the 2 pt conversion if they had tried it :)

second up - three of the top 5 rushers in the conference are qb's - reynolds is at 93.3 ypg, morrast is at 88.0 ypg and pittenger is at 75.2 ypg - in conference games (small sample, admittedly) those guys are 2nd (morrast, 150.0 ypg), 3rd (pittenger, 115.5 ypg) and 4th (reynolds, 109.0 ypg) in rushing ypg, and all three are above 100.0 ypg

i'll have more, i'm sure :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 30, 2014, 03:48:31 PM
Also means a 50% chance you lose and your PAT kicker was 6-6. I just think the kids played too hard to try to win it on a 2pt conversion in the second conference game of the season. Now if it was later in the year and your team has no shot of winning the conference, and you can be a spoiler and there is nothing to lose - then go for it!!!! But when the conference title is still on the line, you play the odds.

I'm older, so maybe I'm more conservative.  :-*
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on September 30, 2014, 04:03:09 PM
Perhaps you're right, narch....both quarterbacks had great games, but I think I'm still in awe of Morrast's performance, particularly once it was obvious that the kid was totally spent.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 30, 2014, 04:44:03 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on September 30, 2014, 04:03:09 PM
Perhaps you're right, narch....both quarterbacks had great games, but I think I'm still in awe of Morrast's performance, particularly once it was obvious that the kid was totally spent.

Reber was exhausted as well. He got hit hard a few times. He gave it everything....That is one game I would like to watch again on video.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 30, 2014, 05:55:37 PM
This group -- or half of it, at least -- will probably like the D3football.com Play of the Week:
http://www.d3football.com/awards/playoftheweek/2014/week4
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2014, 07:47:10 AM
I saw that on the FB page, Pat. Very nice!!

And yesterday I said that was a game that I would love to watch again on video......

aaaaaand I get this link in an email last night...If anyone missed it and wants to see it again.

http://portal.stretchinternet.com/cnu/portal.htm?eventId=173402&streamType=video (http://portal.stretchinternet.com/cnu/portal.htm?eventId=173402&streamType=video)

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 01, 2014, 08:16:23 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 01, 2014, 07:47:10 AM
I saw that on the FB page, Pat. Very nice!!

And yesterday I said that was a game that I would love to watch again on video......

aaaaaand I get this link in an email last night...If anyone missed it and wants to see it again.

http://portal.stretchinternet.com/cnu/portal.htm?eventId=173402&streamType=video (http://portal.stretchinternet.com/cnu/portal.htm?eventId=173402&streamType=video)

I am currently overseas at the present moment and will watch it tonight...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2014, 12:12:44 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on October 01, 2014, 08:16:23 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 01, 2014, 07:47:10 AM
I saw that on the FB page, Pat. Very nice!!

And yesterday I said that was a game that I would love to watch again on video......

aaaaaand I get this link in an email last night...If anyone missed it and wants to see it again.

http://portal.stretchinternet.com/cnu/portal.htm?eventId=173402&streamType=video (http://portal.stretchinternet.com/cnu/portal.htm?eventId=173402&streamType=video)

I am currently overseas at the present moment and will watch it tonight...

Nice. Enjoy a cold one while watching, if you can!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 01, 2014, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 01, 2014, 07:47:10 AM
I saw that on the FB page, Pat. Very nice!!

And yesterday I said that was a game that I would love to watch again on video......

aaaaaand I get this link in an email last night...If anyone missed it and wants to see it again.

http://portal.stretchinternet.com/cnu/portal.htm?eventId=173402&streamType=video (http://portal.stretchinternet.com/cnu/portal.htm?eventId=173402&streamType=video)
now i feel like you're rubbing it in :)

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 30, 2014, 05:55:37 PM
This group -- or half of it, at least -- will probably like the D3football.com Play of the Week:
http://www.d3football.com/awards/playoftheweek/2014/week4
in a somewhat ironic twist, that play trails a diving catch at midfield by an averett receiver in the usasac play of the week (http://www.usasouth.net/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20140929vdf4em) voting by over 100 votes, and i've voted for the morrast play 3 times - anyone who voted for any play other than the morrast td in that poll should be banned from ever voting on that poll again...ever
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 01, 2014, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: narch on October 01, 2014, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 01, 2014, 07:47:10 AM
I saw that on the FB page, Pat. Very nice!!

And yesterday I said that was a game that I would love to watch again on video......

aaaaaand I get this link in an email last night...If anyone missed it and wants to see it again.

http://portal.stretchinternet.com/cnu/portal.htm?eventId=173402&streamType=video (http://portal.stretchinternet.com/cnu/portal.htm?eventId=173402&streamType=video)
now i feel like you're rubbing it in :)

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 30, 2014, 05:55:37 PM
This group -- or half of it, at least -- will probably like the D3football.com Play of the Week:
http://www.d3football.com/awards/playoftheweek/2014/week4
in a somewhat ironic twist, that play trails a diving catch at midfield by an averett receiver in the usasac play of the week (http://www.usasouth.net/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20140929vdf4em) voting by over 100 votes, and i've voted for the morrast play 3 times - anyone who voted for any play other than the morrast td in that poll should be banned from ever voting on that poll again...ever

Didn't even know there was USac play of the week to vote. Hmmm
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on October 01, 2014, 10:34:24 PM
Just watched the Morrast run. Good stuff, Like the duck and reverse.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jbyrd on October 02, 2014, 12:03:59 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 30, 2014, 05:55:37 PM
This group -- or half of it, at least -- will probably like the D3football.com Play of the Week:
http://www.d3football.com/awards/playoftheweek/2014/week4

I have to give props when they are do. That was an amazing effort to give his team the win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2014, 01:47:24 PM
i'm not gonna lie...i thought morrast was a shoe-in for d3football.com team of the week (http://d3football.com/awards/tow/2014/week4), but the kid from gustavus had 7 td's vs. his 6 - i guess that extra td was just enough to put him over the top

i was also a little surprised that rudy rudolph was named to the team of the week...he wasn't even the best wr in the game - that would be patrick jacobs, who had 10 catches, 219 yards and 3 tds vs. rudy's 9, 214 and 1 - actually, both could have made the team of the week, in my book - perhaps the mu sid didn't nominate jacobs - if that's the case, that would be unfortunate
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 02, 2014, 03:04:02 PM
Quote from: narch on October 02, 2014, 01:47:24 PM
i'm not gonna lie...i thought morrast was a shoe-in for d3football.com team of the week (http://d3football.com/awards/tow/2014/week4), but the kid from gustavus had 7 td's vs. his 6 - i guess that extra td was just enough to put him over the top

i was also a little surprised that rudy rudolph was named to the team of the week...he wasn't even the best wr in the game - that would be patrick jacobs, who had 10 catches, 219 yards and 3 tds vs. rudy's 9, 214 and 1 - actually, both could have made the team of the week, in my book - perhaps the mu sid didn't nominate jacobs - if that's the case, that would be unfortunate

I was puzzled by that as well, I would think the circumstance would have made him a lock and since everyone was talking about how well he played...but hey he has a shot to continue this week and maybe and just maybe he can replicate that performance again against Ferrum, then we are potentially talking about Gagliardi Trophy finalist, especially if they win out.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 02, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on October 02, 2014, 03:04:02 PMjust maybe he can replicate that performance again against Ferrum, then we are potentially talking about Gagliardi Trophy finalist, especially if they win out.
let's pump the brakes a little on the gagliardi...while morrast is greatly improved and having a fantastic season, he's third in the conference in total yards per game behind craig and reber, and 22nd nationally (craig is 8th nationally, reber is 13th ) - remember, reber led the nation in yards per game last year and wasn't a finalist (he wasn't even first-team all-region)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 02, 2014, 04:23:44 PM
Just read Mr. Tipps' ATN for the week. Very nice!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 03, 2014, 04:13:03 PM
Okay, I'm curious, who thinks $20 for a chair back seat at a DIII football game is a little excessive?  I could have sworn they were $12 last year....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 03, 2014, 11:42:18 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on October 03, 2014, 04:13:03 PM
Okay, I'm curious, who thinks $20 for a chair back seat at a DIII football game is a little excessive?  I could have sworn they were $12 last year....
$6 at mu...$20 is pretty pricey
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 04, 2014, 06:11:08 PM
Pleasantly surprised at today's outcome defensively given the performance last week. Lots of young guys got some PT.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 04, 2014, 08:10:08 PM
CNU 14 Ferrum 12 at the half. What?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 04, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
c'mon panthers!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 04, 2014, 08:39:21 PM
Hang in Narch. The worm will turn one day my man. I always does UNLESS you are me. LOL ;)
Title: Papi
Post by: abnrgr on October 04, 2014, 08:45:55 PM
Admiral Papi meet me on secure line.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 04, 2014, 09:05:07 PM
Great O from The Hawks today, but ... after Greensboro answered our quick score with one, our D finally showed up.

Good to see lots of folk. Great to see Hawks 88 and his bride.

Hawks win, Auburn is winning, and the bammers lost. ;D

Go Hawks and keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 04, 2014, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 04, 2014, 09:05:07 PM
Great O from The Hawks today, but ... after Greensboro answered our quick score with one, our D finally showed up.

Good to see lots of folk. Great to see Hawks 88 and his bride.

Hawks win, Auburn is winning, and the bammers lost. ;D

Go Hawks and keep the faith
I concur with this. Good solid win for the Hawks and a great day with the other games so far too. :)

Great to see you guys today.

HUGE game with CNU next week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 04, 2014, 09:17:30 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 04, 2014, 09:05:07 PM
Great O from The Hawks today, but ... after Greensboro answered our quick score with one, our D finally showed up.

Good to see lots of folk. Great to see Hawks 88 and his bride.

Hawks win, Auburn is winning, and the bammers lost. ;D

Go Hawks and keep the faith
Great day is right!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 04, 2014, 09:23:13 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 04, 2014, 09:17:30 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 04, 2014, 09:05:07 PM
Great O from The Hawks today, but ... after Greensboro answered our quick score with one, our D finally showed up.

Good to see lots of folk. Great to see Hawks 88 and his bride.

Hawks win, Auburn is winning, and the bammers lost. ;D

Go Hawks and keep the faith
Great day is right!
And my wife is a Mississippi State fan so that's another plus!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 04, 2014, 09:41:47 PM
Go hawks, is right :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 04, 2014, 09:49:32 PM
I just looked this up. At one point today we were called for offensive pass interference and were marked off the 15 yds but also charged a loss of downs. In NCAA there is no loss of downs so they were wrong on that.
I also thought they were wrong by having an un-timed down at the end of the third. I thought you only did that at the end of a half, not first or third quarter. But they just had an un-timed down at the end of the third in the AU-LSU game so I was wrong there.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 04, 2014, 10:35:19 PM
Hawk88
The loss of down made no sense to me. Thanks for looking that up.
Still, solid win, and beginning to jel the D

Have a great week
keep the faith and Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 04, 2014, 11:32:50 PM
High School rule is loss of down. Probably a guy who usually calls high school games and needs to learn the different rules. Wasn't a very well managed game by the officials either, taking too long calling and marking off penalties and generally not keeping the pace of the game going(high schoolish). Also didn't do a good job letting anyone know about the un-timed down at the end of the third. Our offense was on the sideline waiting for them to switch ends when he blew the ball ready for play and we had to burn a timeout. Hope we have a better crew next week. Too big of a game to have a crew like that one again.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 05, 2014, 06:36:28 AM
Averett played a heck of a game, but as I said in a post several weeks ago, the thing about the Bishops that impresses me most is the guys never quit.    Go Bishops!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 05, 2014, 10:20:50 AM
21-19. That was ugly. But like coach said, "smile, you just won a college football game". I think maybe we were still tired from Methodist. I bet our D was having Reber-mares all week long. The Ferrum QB is a big strong kid and a baller.

Next week has me concerned. I know nothing about the Hawks. I wish I could make the trip down for the game, but that's not gonna happen.

Big road game coming up! Long trip!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 06, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 05, 2014, 10:20:50 AM
21-19. That was ugly. But like coach said, "smile, you just won a college football game". I think maybe we were still tired from Methodist. I bet our D was having Reber-mares all week long. The Ferrum QB is a big strong kid and a baller.

I was at the game, and I am really happy with the direction Ferrum is going....I saw something I had never seen before in this game. 2 dead ball fouls against Ferrum after a CNU touchdown....both imposed on the kickoff. CNU kicked off from the Ferrum 35. The Captains do not need that kind of help. Ferrum's D has gotten much better, and they had 425 yards of offense, but should have had more than 19 points with that many yards. Silly mistakes, to put it mildly. Besides the two mentioned above, there was a sideline interference penalty on a CNU touchdown....Captains kicked from the 50 that time. A blocked xp, and a missed 2pt. try.

Maryville this weekend....ugh. This is a tough stretch, but Ferrum is better this week than last.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on October 08, 2014, 02:39:16 PM
Quote from: PurpleSuit on October 08, 2014, 12:37:32 PM
http://athletics.mountunion.edu/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20141008k2kcym

the future schedules are coming together, Mount will be playing NC Wesleyan in 2016 and 2017.

NC Wesleyan helping out the USASAC conference SOS...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 09, 2014, 10:10:04 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on October 08, 2014, 02:39:16 PM
Quote from: PurpleSuit on October 08, 2014, 12:37:32 PM
http://athletics.mountunion.edu/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20141008k2kcym

the future schedules are coming together, Mount will be playing NC Wesleyan in 2016 and 2017.

NC Wesleyan helping out the USASAC conference SOS...
Nice! I like it. Way to step up NCW!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 09, 2014, 02:06:48 PM
Montgomery AL.....a looooooong bus ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 09, 2014, 02:47:50 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 09, 2014, 02:06:48 PM
Montgomery AL.....a looooooong bus ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You got that right. Safe travels to the Captains.
Looking forward to seeing if our defense can keep improving and can contain Morrast and company well enough to get the win and get back in the race for conference title.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 09, 2014, 02:58:02 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 09, 2014, 02:06:48 PM
Montgomery AL.....a looooooong bus ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

730 miles according to TES. 11hrs 15 minutes according to Google. Not the longest, but pretty bad. UWW's trip to TCNJ topped out at 14+ hours. So that one was even worse. I think some of the ASC conference trips are pretty bad as well.

I wonder what the longest annual conference trip tops out at? I'm thinking LC to Sul Ross State at 11hrs 30+ minutes by Google and 808 miles according to TES.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 10, 2014, 01:17:13 PM
11 hrs 15 min per google means about 10.5 hrs for me.....and 13 hrs for a bus!  ;D


Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 10, 2014, 04:26:50 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 10, 2014, 01:17:13 PM
11 hrs 15 min per google means about 10.5 hrs for me.....and 13 hrs for a bus!  ;D

Oh yeah. Dedicated student athletes for sure. CNU will travel a lot in the NJAC, but no horror trips like this one. Shenandoah was the team that really scored however. Joining the ODAC was a massive coup for them travel wise. Adding LaGrange and Huntingdon was done for good reasons, and I truly applaud the USASC for making a tough decision, but some of those trips are just murderous...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 10, 2014, 05:57:25 PM
I have to admit, I was disappointed when the Bishops named Coach Ski  to be their head Coach.  Now I have to admit he has done a lot for the program. He is bringing an attitude that hard work, desire, and a never give up attitude to the program that I haven't seen in a few years. Not only to the program, but he has helped formulate a program that attracts students and fans to the game. Settling on a home field has been a tremendous and  positive accomplishment.  We may not be there yet, but I do think this program is headed in the right direction. The more we get the area involved, the better we will be.  Go Bishops!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 10, 2014, 09:15:30 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on October 10, 2014, 05:57:25 PM
I have to admit, I was disappointed when the Bishops named Coach Ski  to be their head Coach.  Now I have to admit he has done a lot for the program. He is bringing an attitude that hard work, desire, and a never give up attitude to the program that I haven't seen in a few years. Not only to the program, but he has helped formulate a program that attracts students and fans to the game. Settling on a home field has been a tremendous and  positive accomplishment.  We may not be there yet, but I do think this program is headed in the right direction. The more we get the area involved, the better we will be.  Go Bishops!!!!

I think it is headed in right direction, too! Good luck in the years ahead. CNU and NCW hopefully will face each other again....that would mean in the post season!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 11, 2014, 07:12:33 AM
Thanks CNU85....It has been a good rivalry. It would be a shame for it not to continue.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 11, 2014, 08:26:58 AM
lets go hawknarchs :)

gonna be a beautiful day for football in the 'ville...mu by 13

and in alabama, the hawks pull the mild upset and beat cnu by 4

...at least those are the results i'm hoping for :)

and in case anyone missed it, adam turer wrote a good piece about usasac signal callers in around the region (http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-region/mid-atlantic/index) - when discussing the underclassmen, though, he overlooked the one who might be the best - jordan vann at mu won the rookie of the year award in the conference before transferring to mu, and i think the monarch offense will be in very capable hands next year
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 11, 2014, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 09, 2014, 02:06:48 PM
Montgomery AL.....a looooooong bus ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I had to ride that far on a bus that's the bus I would want to ride in. Those are some NIIICE busses.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 11, 2014, 03:10:38 PM
Heavy rain in Ferrum all day and at the start of the fourth quarter, we are in a lightning delay. MC up 20-13.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 11, 2014, 04:33:29 PM
Ferrum falls to 0-5 as the Scots win 23-13. It was a slopfest in Ferrum, but I doubt at the start of the season anyone would have thought it would have been that close. Nor do I think anyone would have thought Ferrum would only lose by 2 to CNU. Next week Huntingdon, at Ferrum. These two weeks have been rough, and I don't see next week being any easier, but Coach Harper said at the post game interview..."tough times don't last , but tough people do". The running back Shuler for MC is strong as an ox.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 11, 2014, 04:51:33 PM
can anyone give me an update on my Hawks?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 11, 2014, 05:00:52 PM
Hawks win 51-31.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 11, 2014, 05:09:27 PM
couldnt get down, watched it (most of it) on the computer...............AUsome

Defense stepped up (except at the end of the 2nd Qtr and end of the game)

Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 11, 2014, 05:09:57 PM
way to go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 11, 2014, 09:00:58 PM
NARCH---are the dorms on fire?!!

Nice win for you and the Admiral Papi
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 11, 2014, 09:44:47 PM
abnrgr - it was a nice win, but i'm not without concern - the monarch defense gave up way too many yards and both of the interceptions thrown by reber were bad balls - the running game was really good today, and the rb's scored 7 td's, but gc actually out-gained mu - they can't play like that and expect to win going forward - still lots to clean up before going to lagrange - that lc passing game scares the heck out of me, especially with the way the mu db's played this weekend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 11, 2014, 10:30:37 PM
I went into today liking our chances but never dreamed we would beat CNU by that much. We were able to jump out to the early lead and were able to keep them from ever really getting back into it. I can't say enough about the job that Luke Bailey has done since taking over the QB job up to having his best game so far today. He keeps making good decisions and executing the offense at a high level. I'm not sure whether Morrast was 100% coming in(thought he might have been limping in pre-game) but he took a few big hits in the 2nd quarter and only played one series in the 2nd half. Hope he is okay and able to keep playing.
On to Ferrum next week. Have to keep playing well and take them one at a time.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 11, 2014, 10:32:04 PM
Quote from: narch on October 11, 2014, 05:09:57 PM
way to go Hawks!
Thanks, narch. Of course you know we have to pull for you guys to lose one somewhere along the way. ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 12, 2014, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: narch on October 11, 2014, 09:44:47 PM
abnrgr - it was a nice win, but i'm not without concern - the monarch defense gave up way too many yards and both of the interceptions thrown by reber were bad balls - the running game was really good today, and the rb's scored 7 td's, but gc actually out-gained mu - they can't play like that and expect to win going forward - still lots to clean up before going to lagrange - that lc passing game scares the heck out of me, especially with the way the mu db's played this weekend

well............roll in the mud this week and enjoy the W.  ;)

Depression is only a week long adventure in the football world. Unless you are from Jones COunty.  ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 12, 2014, 07:44:29 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 12, 2014, 12:51:26 PM
Depression is only a week long adventure in the football world. Unless you are from Jones COunty.  ;)
not depressed, just realistic - that defense HAS to get better for the monarchs to reach their goals, and jones county is lovely...as long as you're just passing through :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2014, 11:22:03 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 11, 2014, 12:10:56 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 09, 2014, 02:06:48 PM
Montgomery AL.....a looooooong bus ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I had to ride that far on a bus that's the bus I would want to ride in. Those are some NIIICE busses.

Go Hawks!

I bet the bus ride home wasn't fun!! Even in a nice bus.....I didn't get to see the busses....I heard they were top notch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 13, 2014, 11:24:11 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 11, 2014, 10:30:37 PM
I went into today liking our chances but never dreamed we would beat CNU by that much. We were able to jump out to the early lead and were able to keep them from ever really getting back into it. I can't say enough about the job that Luke Bailey has done since taking over the QB job up to having his best game so far today. He keeps making good decisions and executing the offense at a high level. I'm not sure whether Morrast was 100% coming in(thought he might have been limping in pre-game) but he took a few big hits in the 2nd quarter and only played one series in the 2nd half. Hope he is okay and able to keep playing.
On to Ferrum next week. Have to keep playing well and take them one at a time.

Go Hawks!

I listened on the radio. Bailey sounded unstoppable! And only a soph. High hopes for Hawknation!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 13, 2014, 10:19:14 PM
a little hawks razzle-dazzle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErkTMCu4vQc&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 16, 2014, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: narch on October 12, 2014, 07:44:29 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 12, 2014, 12:51:26 PM
Depression is only a week long adventure in the football world. Unless you are from Jones COunty.  ;)
not depressed, just realistic - that defense HAS to get better for the monarchs to reach their goals, and jones county is lovely...as long as you're just passing through :)
Well, it also has a Trenton.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 18, 2014, 05:45:32 PM
7 TD day for reber...the monarch d played tremendous for thre and a half quarters...ncwc scares me...Alston is a beast
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 18, 2014, 08:44:13 PM
A solid road win for the Hawks today. I didn't get to watch but was able to keep up with Ferrum's live stats. Seems like it took a while for the offense to get going but had a really strong 3rd quarter to pull away. Next up Lagrange at home. I'm not sure what their issues are this year but I'm sure they will come into Montgomery fired up and ready to give us trouble. Hopefully we can get off to a fast start and take care of them and move on. Have to keep taking them one a at a time.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 19, 2014, 07:53:40 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 16, 2014, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: narch on October 12, 2014, 07:44:29 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 12, 2014, 12:51:26 PM
Depression is only a week long adventure in the football world. Unless you are from Jones COunty.  ;)
not depressed, just realistic - that defense HAS to get better for the monarchs to reach their goals, and jones county is lovely...as long as you're just passing through :)
Well, it also has a Trenton.

My one scream about Havelock. 84 laid on White Oak. 70 in the 1st half. We laid wood for about 64 on West Craven in 74 but 64 is all that I have been part of. Good going GC-Q for you NOVA
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 19, 2014, 08:25:33 PM
Hawks 88

I wont be able to make it down for the LaGrange game. Holler loud but try not to cast dispersions on them. ;D
(Note: I beleive it would be mo proper to say "cast aspersions", which would mean, you are questioning their abilities or doubting them..............but hay............. it was a feller from lagrange that accused us of it)  :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 19, 2014, 08:28:58 PM
Hawks 88
sorry... but i think of that and still laugh, that feller was mad, and you just joking

Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2014, 06:18:44 PM
Quote from: narch on October 18, 2014, 05:45:32 PM
7 TD day for reber...the monarch d played tremendous for thre and a half quarters...ncwc scares me...Alston is a beast

Was
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 20, 2014, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 20, 2014, 06:18:44 PM
Quote from: narch on October 18, 2014, 05:45:32 PM
7 TD day for reber...the monarch d played tremendous for thre and a half quarters...ncwc scares me...Alston is a beast

Was

Explain your present use of the past tense...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 21, 2014, 07:51:37 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 20, 2014, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 20, 2014, 06:18:44 PM
Quote from: narch on October 18, 2014, 05:45:32 PM
7 TD day for reber...the monarch d played tremendous for thre and a half quarters...ncwc scares me...Alston is a beast

Was

Explain your present use of the past tense...

Let's wait until Saturday, then see if I'm correct. Stuff is happening, man!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 21, 2014, 10:23:04 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 19, 2014, 08:25:33 PM
Hawks 88

I wont be able to make it down for the LaGrange game. Holler loud but try not to cast dispersions on them. ;D
(Note: I beleive it would be mo proper to say "cast aspersions", which would mean, you are questioning their abilities or doubting them..............but hay............. it was a feller from lagrange that accused us of it)  :D
I had to dig back into the archives of the Upper Midwest Athletic Conference board(that's where all the SLIAC stuff from 2008 ended up after those two merged) to find the actual term and besmirch was the one that was used. I was accused of besmirching the entire team. LOL. Never mind that he misspelled Huntingdon twice in his post. Oh, well. Fun times/good memories.
We are 6-2 all time against LaGrange and the two losses were the only two games played as conference mates(last season and 2008 in the SLIAC). That little streak needs to end real quick this week. Looks to be awesome weather for Saturday. Wish you could be there.
Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 21, 2014, 08:20:08 PM
Hawks
after i posted, it came to me... he did say Bismerched  but i was tooo lazy to go back and correct
im still laughing about that and the feller yelling at the JV game. ;D

Anyway, didnt you correct the spelling ??? i cant remember. :D

be-smirched is even better than casting dis (as) persions 
as Huntindon fans... we should never do that ;)

and you are so right
A- good times
B- the streak needs to stop now
Go Hawks and keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 22, 2014, 11:20:18 PM
max reber is awesome...need video proof?

check it out :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qoo66iAsyHU
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 23, 2014, 07:11:14 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 19, 2014, 07:53:40 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 16, 2014, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: narch on October 12, 2014, 07:44:29 PM
Quote from: abnrgr on October 12, 2014, 12:51:26 PM
Depression is only a week long adventure in the football world. Unless you are from Jones COunty.  ;)
not depressed, just realistic - that defense HAS to get better for the monarchs to reach their goals, and jones county is lovely...as long as you're just passing through :)
Well, it also has a Trenton.

My one scream about Havelock. 84 laid on White Oak. 70 in the 1st half. We laid wood for about 64 on West Craven in 74 but 64 is all that I have been part of. Good going GC-Q for you NOVA
Thanks, abnrgr.  Hope the Quakes keep their focus for last four games!  With the great numbers narch's MU is putting up, the Guilford win over the Monarchs is looking better and better.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 23, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
Quote from: narch on October 22, 2014, 11:20:18 PM
max reber is awesome...need video proof?

check it out :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qoo66iAsyHU

Good stuff, narch....anyone notice Ferrum's field?  Talk about a mudhole....
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 23, 2014, 05:22:09 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on October 23, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
Quote from: narch on October 22, 2014, 11:20:18 PM
max reber is awesome...need video proof?

check it out :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qoo66iAsyHU

Good stuff, narch....anyone notice Ferrum's field?  Talk about a mudhole....
i saw that, too...

by the way, that is the EXACT play i would have run for a 2 pt conversion in OT vs. cnu, but with radke on the receiving end - it is so difficult to stop - if the corner doesn't come up and the linebacker bites the ball fake to the rb, reber runs it in - if the linebacker fills and the corner lays back, reber throws it out to radke on the bubble and he has a head of steam and a size advantage - if the corner and lb come up, the receiver releases and reber drops the dime over their head, as he did in this play - the play action to the rb and trips formation to the wide side of the field make it difficult for the safety to get over there in time, and if you line the safety up over there, that opens the middle and means the offense can run slants on the trips side...tough play to defend in tight space when running the ball is a legitimate option
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 24, 2014, 11:14:56 AM
Quote from: narch on October 23, 2014, 05:22:09 PM
Quote from: Swish3 on October 23, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
Quote from: narch on October 22, 2014, 11:20:18 PM
max reber is awesome...need video proof?

check it out :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qoo66iAsyHU

Good stuff, narch....anyone notice Ferrum's field?  Talk about a mudhole....
i saw that, too...

by the way, that is the EXACT play i would have run for a 2 pt conversion in OT vs. cnu, but with radke on the receiving end - it is so difficult to stop - if the corner doesn't come up and the linebacker bites the ball fake to the rb, reber runs it in - if the linebacker fills and the corner lays back, reber throws it out to radke on the bubble and he has a head of steam and a size advantage - if the corner and lb come up, the receiver releases and reber drops the dime over their head, as he did in this play - the play action to the rb and trips formation to the wide side of the field make it difficult for the safety to get over there in time, and if you line the safety up over there, that opens the middle and means the offense can run slants on the trips side...tough play to defend in tight space when running the ball is a legitimate option

or if you get tackled, overthrow the ball, drop the ball, make a bad throw, trip and fall, receiver sneezes, underthrow the ball,  you lose the game! bahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 24, 2014, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 24, 2014, 11:14:56 AM
or if you get tackled, overthrow the ball, drop the ball, make a bad throw, trip and fall, receiver sneezes, underthrow the ball,  you lose the game! bahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha
of course, in hindsight that result wouldn't have been any different than the result we got, right :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 24, 2014, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: narch on October 24, 2014, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 24, 2014, 11:14:56 AM
or if you get tackled, overthrow the ball, drop the ball, make a bad throw, trip and fall, receiver sneezes, underthrow the ball,  you lose the game! bahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha
of course, in hindsight that result wouldn't have been any different than the result we got, right :)

Truth
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 01:01:27 PM
Looks like I might miss homecoming festivities And game tonight. Sucks. But a little difficult to hobble all day in a cast on foot. I was supposed to run in a 5k mud run this morning. Nope. Didn't happen. Ground breaking ceremonies at 3 for alumni house. Nope. Not gonna happen. I think I will hook laptop to my tv tonight and watch the game and pop Vicodin.

Good luck to everyone. Time to follow scores and see if coaching staff at NCW allows Alston to play.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 02:22:09 PM
I know Narch will disagree with me. But the monarchs just went for 2 at the end of first half. Dumb! That early in game you just took a point off the board. Now dwn by 10, instead of 9. So a TD and FG now ensures only a tie instead of a lead. Too early for that!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 03:02:18 PM
Monarchs tie it at 26-26. Would be WINNING if they kick the extra point earlier!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 04:05:05 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 03:02:18 PM
Monarchs tie it at 26-26. Would be WINNING if they kick the extra point earlier!!!!!

36-36 in Overtime we go...MU vs NCW. Narch could be celebrating a hard fought win right now 37-36, but no......first half and the coach goes for 2.

OVERTIME! Nuff said!! Narch, just click on "Quote" above this post and simply say, You were right, CNU85!!

Bahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 04:19:57 PM
Monarchs win in 2nd OT 42-39!!!!!  Woooooooo!!!!!! Way to go Monarchs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Narch, you can breath again!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 25, 2014, 04:31:12 PM
Well doodoo, 4th qtr and Lagrange is winning by a td... come back Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 25, 2014, 04:32:07 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 04:19:57 PM
Monarchs win in 2nd OT 42-39!!!!!  Woooooooo!!!!!! Way to go Monarchs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Narch, you can breath again!!!!

LaGrange is up 24-17 at HC in the 4th. What?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 04:40:21 PM
LaGrange wins'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 25, 2014, 04:42:07 PM
well double doodoo
we got beat by the Lagrange folk
we have been besmirched

Go Hawks any way
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 25, 2014, 04:48:33 PM
Now if Greensboro can beat CNU...
::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 04:49:57 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 25, 2014, 04:42:07 PM
well double doodoo
we got beat by the Lagrange folk
we have been besmirched

Go Hawks any way

What happened to the Hawks? You guys dropped 51 points on us and only 17 against Lagrange. We face them next week. Making me nervous! Is their D that good? Or is CNU's really that horrible?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 04:51:56 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 25, 2014, 04:48:33 PM
Now if Greensboro can beat CNU...
::)

Anything is possible, but I'm feeling good about this one. 14th meeting. CNU is 13-0. Homecoming game for CNU. Large crowd will be there. Fans will fire up the players.

Sigh....and I will be 2 miles away on my couch. At least I will be able to hear the fireworks at halftime.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 25, 2014, 05:07:29 PM
CNU85
yall will drop 51 pts on LaGrange

Perhaps we can play mobetta next week

triple doodoo
still and always
keep the faith And Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 25, 2014, 05:36:47 PM
Nightmare. Still waiting to wake up and it still be Saturday morning because that couldn't have been real. I can't even describe what happened. We just never executed our offense. I'm not sure what it was that we were doing. One of the top 2 or 3 worst games we have ever played.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 25, 2014, 05:46:16 PM
i was able to watch 2/3rds of it on the computer... doooooodooo
we were flat +++++
Hawks, keep the faith my friend
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 08:04:31 PM
Still 2nd qt. morrast is 13-16 277 yds and 3 TDs. Rudolph has 7 rec for 204 yds and 2 scores.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 25, 2014, 08:26:07 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 02:22:09 PM
I know Narch will disagree with me. But the monarchs just went for 2 at the end of first half. Dumb! That early in game you just took a point off the board. Now dwn by 10, instead of 9. So a TD and FG now ensures only a tie instead of a lead. Too early for that!!
didn't see the game, but i agree with you...you don't chase points in the first half - shoulda gone for2 vs. cnu though...and the hawks loss ends the possibility of a tie with them if mu wins out...gotta hope for a captains loss now AND the monarchs winning out
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 25, 2014, 08:28:37 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 04:49:57 PMMaking me nervous! Is their D that good? Or is CNU's really that horrible?
lagrange's defense gave up 73 to the monarchs
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on October 25, 2014, 09:07:40 PM
Ferrum 26

Averett 14      Final

We have kept the streak in tact. This is the 60th year of Ferrum football, and there has never been a season where the team went winless. A win is a win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 09:30:52 PM
Quote from: Allen C on October 25, 2014, 09:07:40 PM
Ferrum 26

Averett 14      Final

We have kept the streak in tact. This is the 60th year of Ferrum football, and there has never been a season where the team went winless. A win is a win.

True dat
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 25, 2014, 09:46:58 PM
Graham for Greensboro looks like he will be dangerous at QB for the next few years. A nice arm!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 27, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
now that the hawks have essentially taken themselves out of contention, i guess i have to root for MU to win out and m'ville to win all but the november 15 game @ mu - averett and fc both have enough athletes to make those wins much less than a "sure thing" for the monarchs and m'ville has a tough road to go with ncwc and cnu, along with mu - i like that the scots are at home for ncwc and cnu, though - this should be an exciting 3 week stretch for the conference - i'm hoping that everything falls into place for a november 15 game for all the marbles...lots of football left before that can happen, but i will be the biggest scotsnarchs fan ever for the next two weeks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 27, 2014, 01:12:55 PM
We're not out of it yet. All we need is to win out, have NCWC beat Maryville, and have Maryville beat MU and CNU. Then we would have a four way tie, all with two losses. Piece of cake.  ::) And whoever wins that tie-breaker get to go to Mount Union.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Steve on October 27, 2014, 04:18:28 PM
Hello, first time post. Been reading for years. I have a question about how the division is decided. If Methodist and CNU win out, MU would be 8- 2 and CNU 7-3. Both teams would be 7-1 in conference. I assume MU would be champs. Is this Correct.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on October 27, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
No, it's not....CNU would be the champs based on their head to head win against Methodist.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Steve on October 27, 2014, 06:56:30 PM
Best record does not mean anything. That does not make sense. I could understand going to a tie breaker if two finish with the same record but I would think over record would win . Seem backwards to me.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 27, 2014, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: Steve on October 27, 2014, 06:56:30 PM
Best record does not mean anything. That does not make sense. I could understand going to a tie breaker if two finish with the same record but I would think over record would win . Seem backwards to me.

I think most people would think it was backwards to award your conference title by using non-conference games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Steve on October 27, 2014, 08:35:54 PM
I guess it is different with the NCAA. I guess the NFL looks at it as backwards because the best record wins. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 27, 2014, 08:43:52 PM
Right -- but in the NFL there is a finite number of teams and the league makes the schedule, so the schedules are more comparable. For college football, one team could be playing Mount Union non-conference (as N.C. Wesleyan will in a couple years) and the other could be playing Gallaudet.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Steve on October 27, 2014, 09:07:22 PM
I did not look at it that way. That makes sense. Thank again for clearing it up.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 28, 2014, 08:28:49 AM
Congrats to #5, Rudy Rudolph. d3football.com team of the week.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 29, 2014, 09:36:32 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 28, 2014, 08:28:49 AM
Congrats to #5, Rudy Rudolph. d3football.com team of the week.
Did he once walk on at Notre Dame?  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 30, 2014, 08:31:26 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 29, 2014, 09:36:32 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on October 28, 2014, 08:28:49 AM
Congrats to #5, Rudy Rudolph. d3football.com team of the week.
Did he once walk on at Notre Dame?  :)

:D and then he grew!!!! twice now named to TOW. Very nice!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on October 31, 2014, 11:05:34 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 27, 2014, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: Steve on October 27, 2014, 06:56:30 PM
Best record does not mean anything. That does not make sense. I could understand going to a tie breaker if two finish with the same record but I would think over record would win . Seem backwards to me.

I think most people would think it was backwards to award your conference title by using non-conference games.

Or who was the "last to go" instead of sending who has the better chance to win. That could be the ODAC this year....again
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 01, 2014, 04:12:37 PM
MC has a good win over a NC Wesleyan team that is on the up swing again, 42-28. Lots of rushing, but lots of slips and falls for the Maryville backs. Trenton Shuler had to be close to 200 yards and MC as a team over 350. I'll check that. NCWC picked up a fumble on an attempted spike at the end of the half and ran it back 68 yards for a score. Had another ball slip out of Pitt's hand deep in MC territory and NCWC scored the next play. Very well could have been 42-14, but also very well could have been a much different score if MC hadn't had a pick 6 in the 3rd and some of the dropped balls from Midgett were caught.

With that being said...

narch...my man.
WHAT HAPPENED?!?!? MU is screwing up our master plan for the showdown in Fayetteville in a few weeks. I was going to get t-shirts made and everything  :'(
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 01, 2014, 05:23:21 PM
WTG Averett! Crazy stuff. Come on, LaGrange. Do it again tonight.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 01, 2014, 05:46:26 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 01, 2014, 05:23:21 PM
WTG Averett! Crazy stuff. Come on, LaGrange. Do it again tonight.

If CNU beats LC tonight Maryville and CNU have a match up next week for sole possession of 1st.
If LC beats CNU tonight, Maryville stands alone in 1st, but then if MC is beaten by CNU next week, back to a 3 way tie (MC, HC, CNU) if Huntingdon beats Averett.

Hopefully all that's correct.

Either way, CNU needs to beat LaGrange to keep Maryville's destiny in its own hands.
Crazy stuff the last 2 weeks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 01, 2014, 06:17:26 PM
Maryville controls their own destiny no matter what happens tonight. If Maryville wins out then they are solo conference champs.

HC needs LC to win tonight, CNU to beat MC next week, and MC to beat MU in the final game..and of course HC to win out. That would be a three way tie between HC, MC, and CNU. HC would own the tie-breaker with wins over the other two.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 01, 2014, 06:47:10 PM
After watching the game today and seeing the results of the MU/Averett game, I'm left here scratching my head..

MU beat the dog-you-know-what out of LaGrange.
LC lost big to Maryville, but beat Huntingdon.
Huntingdon beat Maryville by 14 and the game was never close.
AU got crushed by MC if you take out the special teams scores (even though MC still won by 23).

MU put 73 points on the board against LaGrange. Takes NCWC to overtime and has to have the kicker dominate the scoring. Then they lost the Averett today. NCWC isn't bad, but they aren't a top tier (yet) within the conference.

Bottom line: I don't know what to think of the conference race and I don't know what exactly Methodist has. They scare me. And I'm sure they scare Narch too. They can be day and night between games.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 01, 2014, 08:15:07 PM
LC hanging in there. 17-13 CNU at the half.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 01, 2014, 08:31:11 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 01, 2014, 08:15:07 PM
LC hanging in there. 17-13 CNU at the half.

Fumble on the 1 yard line going in for LC isn't helping.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 01, 2014, 08:40:23 PM
LC takes the lead on the first possession of the 2nd half, 20-17.

CNU answers, 24-20.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 01, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Quick. Post again. You're sitting at a bad number of posts.

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Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 01, 2014, 08:54:07 PM
Shocked by today's MU result...didn't expect that at all...didn't watch the game at all because the boy is at a lacrosse tourney (in the Danville area, ironically) but MU just didnt play their best and didn't get any of the breaks (every 50/50 chance went to au, from what I heard)...the monarchs need lots of help
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 01, 2014, 09:01:10 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 01, 2014, 08:47:21 PM
Quick. Post again. You're sitting at a bad number of posts.

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CNU with another 31-20, late third. My fault, bad post count.;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 01, 2014, 09:18:11 PM
CNU pulling away, 38-20 with 11:18 left.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 01, 2014, 09:19:06 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 01, 2014, 09:18:11 PM
CNU pulling away, 38-20 with 11:18 left.

Morrast hurt on last drive. Wrapping his shoulder now.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 01, 2014, 09:21:49 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 01, 2014, 09:19:06 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 01, 2014, 09:18:11 PM
CNU pulling away, 38-20 with 11:18 left.

Morrast hurt on last drive. Wrapping his shoulder now.
The video stream cut out of me...what happened? Hit by defender, hit the ground funny...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 01, 2014, 09:22:38 PM
Rudolph is a beast. 4 catches 167 yds. Longest reception only 47 yds.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 01, 2014, 09:24:04 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 01, 2014, 09:21:49 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 01, 2014, 09:19:06 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 01, 2014, 09:18:11 PM
CNU pulling away, 38-20 with 11:18 left.

Morrast hurt on last drive. Wrapping his shoulder now.
The video stream cut out of me...what happened? Hit by defender, hit the ground funny...

On long pass to Rudolph he was hit as he released ball and landed on shoulder with defender on top. Left arm. Seemed ok on sideline. Moving arm. But they wrapped it. Maybe just a precaution.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 01, 2014, 09:35:54 PM
Too funny! I'm home with broken foot. Radio announcers (and on video feed) just gave me a shutout for my research and football injury.

...morrast is back in game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 01, 2014, 09:41:13 PM
45-26 CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 01, 2014, 10:47:24 PM
Okay, if CNU beats Maryville next week then CNU wins the conference outright so we'll be pulling for Maryville so we will still have some kind of hope.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 02, 2014, 07:07:44 PM
let's go maryville :)

if m'ville beat cnu to give them their 2nd conference loss, and mu gets by ferrum and huntingdon wins out, the mu/m'ville game will be for the conference championship - if m'ville wins, they are sole champions, if mu wins, they are co-champions, but should win the tie break based on a 2-1 record vs. m'ville, huntingdon and cnu...huntingdon would also be 2-1 in the round-robin (cnu and m'ville would be 1-2 in this scenario) and mu would win based on head-to-head vs. huntingdon...i think :)

either way, i'm rooting for m'ville, huntingdon and mu this weekend just in case i'm right :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 03, 2014, 10:13:19 AM
Quote from: narch on November 02, 2014, 07:07:44 PM
let's go maryville :)

if m'ville beat cnu to give them their 2nd conference loss, and mu gets by ferrum and huntingdon wins out, the mu/m'ville game will be for the conference championship - if m'ville wins, they are sole champions, if mu wins, they are co-champions, but should win the tie break based on a 2-1 record vs. m'ville, huntingdon and cnu...huntingdon would also be 2-1 in the round-robin (cnu and m'ville would be 1-2 in this scenario) and mu would win based on head-to-head vs. huntingdon...i think :)

either way, i'm rooting for m'ville, huntingdon and mu this weekend just in case i'm right :)

Natchster
That's a lot of if's.  ;) But they have a chance and that's all one can ask for. I think the Scots are a very safe bet but Huntingdon is a wild card. Good luck bro. Get Papi go to those games. :D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 03, 2014, 10:21:25 AM
Quote from: narch on November 01, 2014, 08:54:07 PM
Shocked by today's MU result...didn't expect that at all...didn't watch the game at all because the boy is at a lacrosse tourney (in the Danville area, ironically) but MU just didnt play their best and didn't get any of the breaks (every 50/50 chance went to au, from what I heard)...the monarchs need lots of help
I didn't see this one coming either.  Some games just go that way ... I felt the same way after the AU/Guilford game in 2013.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2014, 01:24:30 PM
I believe these would be the remaining Conference Champs and AQ possibilities.

If CNU beats Maryville then CNU is sole champion and gets the AQ.

If Maryville beats CNU and Methodist then Maryville is the sole champion and gets the AQ.

If Maryville beats CNU and loses to Methodist then it gets interesting.
- If Methodist loses to Ferrum and Huntingdon loses one of it's remaining games then we have a tie between Maryville and CNU. MC gets the AQ by way of the head-to-head win.
-If Methodist loses to Ferrum and Huntingdon wins out then we have a three way tie between Huntingdon, Maryville and CNU. HC gets the AQ by way of wins over the other two.
-If Methodist beats Ferrum and Huntingdon wins out then we have a four way tie between Methodist, Huntingdon, Maryville and CNU. I THINK Methodist would get the AQ here going by Narch's earlier post where MU and HC would be 2-1 among the tied teams and MC and CNU would be 1-2 among the tied teams and MU having the head-to-head over HC.(Not sure if the conference tie breaker works this way but it makes sense).
-If Methodist beats Ferrum and Huntingdon loses one of it's remaining games then we have a three way tie between Maryville, Methodist, and CNU. As each one will be 1-1 among the tied teams and no one likely to be regionally ranked then we may end up with the three head coaches meeting at a Waffle House outside Greensboro at 1 AM Sunday for a Friday Night Lights style coin toss to see who gets the AQ. I believe Narch had the correct tie-break here. This 3 way tie  should be broken by looking at results vs. teams from the top of the conference standings down. All three teams have beaten NCWC, but MU beat HC while both MC and CNU lost to HC, giving MU the AQ.

Any corrections will be appreciated as I could be way off on some of these as I have no idea how the conference handles them.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 03, 2014, 02:02:35 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 03, 2014, 01:24:30 PM
I believe these would be the remaining Conference Champs and AQ possibilities.

If CNU beats Maryville then CNU is sole champion and gets the AQ.

If Maryville beats CNU and Methodist then Maryville is the sole champion and gets the AQ.

If Maryville beats CNU and loses to Methodist then it gets interesting.
- If Methodist loses to Ferrum and Huntingdon loses one of it's remaining games then we have a tie between Maryville and CNU. MC gets the AQ by way of the head-to-head win.
-If Methodist loses to Ferrum and Huntingdon wins out then we have a three way tie between Huntingdon, Maryville and CNU. HC gets the AQ by way of wins over the other two.
-If Methodist beats Ferrum and Huntingdon wins out then we have a four way tie between Methodist, Huntingdon, Maryville and CNU. I THINK Methodist would get the AQ here going by Narch's earlier post where MU and HC would be 2-1 among the tied teams and MC and CNU would be 1-2 among the tied teams and MU having the head-to-head over HC.(Not sure if the conference tie breaker works this way but it makes sense).
-If Methodist beats Ferrum and Huntingdon loses one of it's remaining games then we have a three way tie between Maryville, Methodist, and CNU. As each one will be 1-1 among the tied teams and no one likely to be regionally ranked then we may end up with the three head coaches meeting at a Waffle House outside Greensboro at 1 AM Sunday for a Friday Night Lights style coin toss to see who gets the AQ.

Any corrections will be appreciated as I could be way off on some of these as I have no idea how the conference handles them.

Looking for Motrin....I now have a headache!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 03, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 03, 2014, 01:24:30 PM
-If Methodist beats Ferrum and Huntingdon loses one of it's remaining games then we have a three way tie between Maryville, Methodist, and CNU. As each one will be 1-1 among the tied teams and no one likely to be regionally ranked then we may end up with the three head coaches meeting at a Waffle House outside Greensboro at 1 AM Sunday for a Friday Night Lights style coin toss to see who gets the AQ.

Any corrections will be appreciated as I could be way off on some of these as I have no idea how the conference handles them.
Hawks88 - i think you're spot on with all of those except the last - i could be wrong, but i think that in lieu of the meeting at waffle house :), mu would get the nod here, as well...a 3 way tie with m'ville, mu and cnu should be broken by looking at results vs. teams from the top of the conference standings down, since head to head doesn't break the tie - all three teams have beaten ncwc, but m'ville and cnu both lost to huntingdon, giving mu the ncaa berth

abnrgr - i think there are really only 2 "if's" for the monarchs - if they can beat ferrum (certainly not a given, especially on the road), and if m'ville can beat cnu, then the monarchs play for the conference championship on 11/15 - initially i thought huntingdon had to be brought into the tie-breaker, but upon further inspection, i don't think they do

maryville and cnu are the only teams that have no if's...win out and they're in
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2014, 03:06:06 PM
Quote from: narch on November 03, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 03, 2014, 01:24:30 PM
-If Methodist beats Ferrum and Huntingdon loses one of it's remaining games then we have a three way tie between Maryville, Methodist, and CNU. As each one will be 1-1 among the tied teams and no one likely to be regionally ranked then we may end up with the three head coaches meeting at a Waffle House outside Greensboro at 1 AM Sunday for a Friday Night Lights style coin toss to see who gets the AQ.

Any corrections will be appreciated as I could be way off on some of these as I have no idea how the conference handles them.
Hawks88 - i think you're spot on with all of those except the last - i could be wrong, but i think that in lieu of the meeting at waffle house :), mu would get the nod here, as well...a 3 way tie with m'ville, mu and cnu should be broken by looking at results vs. teams from the top of the conference standings down, since head to head doesn't break the tie - all three teams have beaten ncwc, but m'ville and cnu both lost to huntingdon, giving mu the ncaa berth

abnrgr - i think there are really only 2 "if's" for the monarchs - if they can beat ferrum (certainly not a given, especially on the road), and if m'ville can beat cnu, then the monarchs play for the conference championship on 11/15 - initially i thought huntingdon had to be brought into the tie-breaker, but upon further inspection, i don't think they do

maryville and cnu are the only teams that have no if's...win out and they're in
I think you are probably right, Narch. Good catch.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: kickerdad on November 03, 2014, 03:29:22 PM
WOW Averett got a "W". Didn't see or hear about it until today. At any rate, congrats and maybe this will be the start of some good things.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 05, 2014, 12:56:11 PM
Ok Scots fans....looks like I am making the trip to Pigeon Forge this weekend. Might stop by for the game Saturday (right foot is in a cast, so I can't drive....need to earn brownie points to make it to the game).....anyway.....how does Maryville handle tickets? Buy at gate? Plenty of seats available? I may have a friend come up with his son from NC to meet me for the game.

Thanks for the info!!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 05, 2014, 06:43:19 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 05, 2014, 12:56:11 PM
Ok Scots fans....looks like I am making the trip to Pigeon Forge this weekend. Might stop by for the game Saturday (right foot is in a cast, so I can't drive....need to earn brownie points to make it to the game).....anyway.....how does Maryville handle tickets? Buy at gate? Plenty of seats available? I may have a friend come up with his son from NC to meet me for the game.

Thanks for the info!!!!

Tickets are like $8 at the gate. Plenty of seating on visitors side for a game like CNU since the schools are so distant. If the weather is nice and UT is playing a night game, look for a good number of people there. Should be a great game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 06, 2014, 12:55:59 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 05, 2014, 06:43:19 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 05, 2014, 12:56:11 PM
Ok Scots fans....looks like I am making the trip to Pigeon Forge this weekend. Might stop by for the game Saturday (right foot is in a cast, so I can't drive....need to earn brownie points to make it to the game).....anyway.....how does Maryville handle tickets? Buy at gate? Plenty of seats available? I may have a friend come up with his son from NC to meet me for the game.

Thanks for the info!!!!

Tickets are like $8 at the gate. Plenty of seating on visitors side for a game like CNU since the schools are so distant. If the weather is nice and UT is playing a night game, look for a good number of people there. Should be a great game.

Cool beans! Thanks for the info. I'm hoping to make it. Will see if family has other plans for me!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 07, 2014, 03:45:51 PM
Narch
what is your call this weekend for the Den? ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 07, 2014, 08:28:22 PM
abnrgr - i need a monarch and a scots win...that's all i care about - let's go monarchs, let's go scots!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 08, 2014, 02:06:47 PM
Terrible special teams. Good defense. Bad penalties. CNU up 10-6 start of the 2nd deep in MC territory.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 08, 2014, 02:10:08 PM
Make that 17-6 CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 08, 2014, 02:21:58 PM
Maryville stops CNU on 4th down and scores in the next possession, 65 yards. 17-13 CNU 8:26 left in the 2Q
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 08, 2014, 02:29:03 PM
Again, terrible special teams. Storm Parker takes the kick off to the 35 and CNU scores a few plays later. 24-13 CNU.

Kimbrell takes the kickoff to the CNU 43 yard line for the Scots.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 08, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
Good game Captains. Great coaching on special teams. 37-27 CNU.
Get healthy next week and win a playoff game for the USA South.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 08, 2014, 06:02:46 PM
Congrats to the captains...takes a little excitement out of next week, but MU vs. M'ville is always fun
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 08, 2014, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 08, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
Good game Captains. Great coaching on special teams. 37-27 CNU.
Get healthy next week and win a playoff game for the USA South.

Was fun to watch. Great game. Beautiful campus!! I showed up late. CNU was down6-0. But then the good luck charm showed up..... Me!!  Hahaha.

Overall a great weekend. Sitting in the Smoky Mountain Opry now waiting for Christmas show to start and watch my daughter on stage dancing
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 08, 2014, 08:14:12 PM
Congrats to CNU on the conference championship.
Hawks played very well today. One more game to play. With the fairly young team we have this season, lots of sophomores with big contributions this year, I think we are set up well for big seasons the next couple of years.
With that I was in a very good mood when I got home a little while ago. Then saw the last few minutes of the Auburn-Texas A&M game. GAH! AU, Down 3, drives down and fumbles at the A&M 2 in the last minutes. Manage to hold and get the ball back and get near field goal range. QB steps forward to audible and the center snaps it into his knees and it bounces back between the center's legs right to the nose guard. The old AU luck ran out tonight apparently.

Oh well. Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 08, 2014, 08:21:33 PM
Hawks

I had to work, looks like The Hawks did well.

I pray yall are well, keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 09, 2014, 12:17:08 PM
Haven't posted in here for years but just wanted to say congratulations to the BEST COACH in USA South/Dixie history Coach K. He started his career in the conference by winning it and it's only fitting that he went out a champion. Can't thank that entire coaching staff enough for all that they have done for myself and my brothers alike during our time at CNU!

Olando #54
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 09, 2014, 03:59:40 PM
Well done CNU!   Represent the conference well for us
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 10, 2014, 09:56:15 AM
Quote from: cnusfinest54 on November 09, 2014, 12:17:08 PM
Haven't posted in here for years but just wanted to say congratulations to the BEST COACH in USA South/Dixie history Coach K. He started his career in the conference by winning it and it's only fitting that he went out a champion. Can't thank that entire coaching staff enough for all that they have done for myself and my brothers alike during our time at CNU!

Olando #54

You were fun to watch as well!! Thanks!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 11, 2014, 11:16:13 AM
Was hoping Mason Studer would have made TOW. Booted a 50 yarder and also pooched several kickoffs, 2 of them perfectly so that CNU could recover and another was recovered by CNU but player was out of bounds.

Will be nice to take a week off.....must be difficult to have a week of practice not knowing your opponent.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 14, 2014, 11:04:50 AM
Wesleydad, Are you lurking?

The prediction by d3football is that CNU could be heading to Dover......while it might be nice to see you.....I hope not!!! hahahaha
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 15, 2014, 09:21:40 AM
I saw that.  The projections are interesting.  The 500 mile rule makes a bad first round game between to low ranked teams and sends you guys to Wesley if that is how it plays out.  This is the best Wesley team I have seen since I started following them in 2005.  Really good on defense and offense is scary fast.  Would be a real tough draw for CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 15, 2014, 02:29:03 PM
Hawks lead the Bishops 20-14 at the half while having a turnoverfest in Rocky Mount. HC with 4 TO's and NCWC with 3. Ugly game.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 15, 2014, 03:53:13 PM
The streak continues in the Maryville/Methodist series. One point win for my boys in Fayetteville. 24-23.

Narch. tough loss for those kids. It lived up to the billing in my book.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 15, 2014, 03:55:18 PM
Final in Rocky Mount, Hawks win 37-20. Second half was much better than the first.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 15, 2014, 04:07:43 PM
Hawks
I had to work all through the first half. My last call, the owner was watching the game on his I phone (really ;)) He said, "Doc, you heading home after you treat our goat ?"
"yep"
"I am getting this on Weslyan 's feed, better than ours"
soooooo, i pulled up at the house and pulled up thier web site, and watched the second half.

I thought we looked perty good ???

Not a bad season, and....who'd a thought a feller rural Chambers County would be watching Huntingdon beat the Bishops, beside a pasture, with a sick goat.
;)
Go Hawks and keep the faith
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 15, 2014, 04:13:32 PM
Yep, we looked good in the first half too, except for putting the ball on the ground so much. Not sure where that came from but glad we got it straight after the half.
As I said last week, we had a lot of young guys making big contributions this year so if we can keep most of them around then I think we are set up for some good things the next couple of years.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 15, 2014, 05:20:20 PM
Hawks
Hope yer right, hope we can build from this off year

Wrestling starts tomorrow ...neat
keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2014, 07:28:29 PM
mu and m'ville played a pretty classic game today...sorry it ended the way it did for those monarch seniors, especially the last play...mu flagged for excessive celebration after scoring a td with 5 seconds left, then the xp is a 35 yarder pulled left - instead of ot, the monarchs take the loss - i knew reber had some magic left, even though he had a tough day...i just knew he was going to pull that game out, but i guess it would have been too good to be true...tough loss
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2014, 11:01:28 PM
the more i think about the end of the mu/m'ville game, the more disappointed i am...the officials called an unsportsmanlike on the monarchs for celebrating a td on the field, but when the monarchs missed the xp, m'ville was on the field celebrating and there was no flag...a flag there would have put the ball on the monarch 31 when mu got the ensuing onside kick...which is the exact spot that mu scored from with :05 left

m'ville also called 2 consecutive timeouts to "ice" ausherman on the xp...i thought a second timeout without any time running off the clock was supposed to be an unsportsmanlike penalty (or is it delay of game)? is this just in the nfl? everything i can find online suggests it's not legal in ncaa football, either

who knows what would have happened if the game had gone to overtime, but i hate that the officials played such a prominent role in the outcome...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 16, 2014, 11:20:47 AM
Quote from: narch on November 15, 2014, 07:28:29 PM
mu and m'ville played a pretty classic game today...sorry it ended the way it did for those monarch seniors, especially the last play...mu flagged for excessive celebration after scoring a td with 5 seconds left, then the xp is a 35 yarder pulled left - instead of ot, the monarchs take the loss - i knew reber had some magic left, even though he had a tough day...i just knew he was going to pull that game out, but i guess it would have been too good to be true...tough loss
Man, that's a tough way to end the game.  I've always thought the unsportsmanlike penalty for excessive celebration was a bit silly when you're talking about 18-22 year olds.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 16, 2014, 11:36:41 AM
Quote from: hasanova on November 16, 2014, 11:20:47 AM
Quote from: narch on November 15, 2014, 07:28:29 PM
mu and m'ville played a pretty classic game today...sorry it ended the way it did for those monarch seniors, especially the last play...mu flagged for excessive celebration after scoring a td with 5 seconds left, then the xp is a 35 yarder pulled left - instead of ot, the monarchs take the loss - i knew reber had some magic left, even though he had a tough day...i just knew he was going to pull that game out, but i guess it would have been too good to be true...tough loss
Man, that's a tough way to end the game.  I've always thought the unsportsmanlike penalty for excessive celebration was a bit silly when you're talking about 18-22 year olds.

I was watching the MU feed and they were up in arms about it too, naturally. But I guess they had a replay monitor and one of the guys said a fan or somebody non-team affiliated ran out on the field. They did say early in the game the ones sitting in that area (scoreboard end zone) were a bunch of recruits and their parents.

Obviously I'm pleased with the outcome of the game, but I know where you are coming from narch. Even if I was on the sideline and we scored like that, I'd be going crazy like the MU kids. Which I actually did one time in the series.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: newscot09 on November 16, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
Fayetteville newspaper reported that it was an ex Monarch player that entered the celebration
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 16, 2014, 06:32:56 PM
CNU is headed to #16 Delaware Valley.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 16, 2014, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: newscot09 on November 16, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
Fayetteville newspaper reported that it was an ex Monarch player that entered the celebration
that makes it worse, in some ways...the game was potentially decided by somebody who isn't even on the team...

disappointing end to a promising season...much work to do for the monarchs, but i'm confident they will be in the  race every year in this conference...despite losing the best qb in conference history, there is little doubt that jordan vann is ready to step in and lead this team - papilion, jacobs and minter will be tough to replace, but one of the advantages of such large numbers is that there is a lot of talent in fayetteville
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 01:44:09 AM
Quote from: narch on November 16, 2014, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: newscot09 on November 16, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
Fayetteville newspaper reported that it was an ex Monarch player that entered the celebration
that makes it worse, in some ways...the game was potentially decided by somebody who isn't even on the team...

disappointing end to a promising season...much work to do for the monarchs, but i'm confident they will be in the  race every year in this conference...despite losing the best qb in conference history, there is little doubt that jordan vann is ready to step in and lead this team - papilion, jacobs and minter will be tough to replace, but one of the advantages of such large numbers is that there is a lot of talent in fayetteville

Vann has eligibility left? I'm guessing transferring from NCWC to ECU to MU played with it a little. I may be wrong, but his freshman year was my sophomore year. I'll have been retired going on 3 years come August and just over half way to AARP.

But Jordan Vann would have been another Reber at NCWC and is more than capable of breaking the MC streak in the series. He beat MC his freshman year..
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2014, 09:28:17 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 01:44:09 AM
Vann has eligibility left?
one year...he played one season at ncwc and two at mu, so there is a year left - i'm sure he was a great intramural qb at ecu, but that doesn't count against his eligibility :)

i've heard his plan is to enter the MU MBA program and play out the final year of eligibility...i believe that's the plan, but we'll see - going from reber to vann would be a perfect scenario for mu...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 10:29:10 AM
Quote from: narch on November 17, 2014, 09:28:17 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 01:44:09 AM
Vann has eligibility left?
one year...he played one season at ncwc and two at mu, so there is a year left - i'm sure he was a great intramural qb at ecu, but that doesn't count against his eligibility :)

i've heard his plan is to enter the MU MBA program and play out the final year of eligibility...i believe that's the plan, but we'll see - going from reber to vann would be a perfect scenario for mu...

I was under the impression Vann walked on at ECU as a punter. I guess that's not the case.

I hope the MC/MU game keeps being the last game of the year and if so, we need a trophy for the game. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 17, 2014, 01:33:07 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 10:29:10 AM
I was under the impression Vann walked on at ECU as a punter. I guess that's not the case.

I hope the MC/MU game keeps being the last game of the year and if so, we need a trophy for the game. Any thoughts?
i think that was the intention, but apparently he did not make the team at ecu or decided not to play...

i think the trophy could be a holographic barn burning...8 of the last 10 games decided by 1 score, with one of those games that wasn't (last year) being very much in question under 4 minutes and one of those games (2009) going 4 ot's...those classify as barn burners, to me
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 17, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: narch on November 17, 2014, 01:33:07 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 10:29:10 AM
I was under the impression Vann walked on at ECU as a punter. I guess that's not the case.

I hope the MC/MU game keeps being the last game of the year and if so, we need a trophy for the game. Any thoughts?
i think that was the intention, but apparently he did not make the team at ecu or decided not to play...

i think the trophy could be a holographic barn burning...8 of the last 10 games decided by 1 score, with one of those games that wasn't (last year) being very much in question under 4 minutes and one of those games (2009) going 4 ot's...those classify as barn burners, to me
If Methodist hadn't changed its name to University, you could award the MC Hammer as a trophy ... I envision a Thor-esque hammer nailing the game on the last play with a thunderbolt ... either that or a shadow box with a framed CD with an endless remix of "Can't Touch This ..." and the IRS logo.  It could happen.  :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 17, 2014, 05:11:57 PM
Quote from: hasanova on November 17, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: narch on November 17, 2014, 01:33:07 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 10:29:10 AM
I was under the impression Vann walked on at ECU as a punter. I guess that's not the case.

I hope the MC/MU game keeps being the last game of the year and if so, we need a trophy for the game. Any thoughts?
i think that was the intention, but apparently he did not make the team at ecu or decided not to play...

i think the trophy could be a holographic barn burning...8 of the last 10 games decided by 1 score, with one of those games that wasn't (last year) being very much in question under 4 minutes and one of those games (2009) going 4 ot's...those classify as barn burners, to me
If Methodist hadn't changed its name to University, you could award the MC Hammer as a trophy ... I envision a Thor-esque hammer nailing the game on the last play with a thunderbolt ... either that or a shadow box with a framed CD with an endless remix of "Can't Touch This ..." and the IRS logo.  It could happen.  :)
Or a pair of those really baggy pants.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 06:13:48 PM
Quote from: hasanova on November 17, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: narch on November 17, 2014, 01:33:07 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 10:29:10 AM
I was under the impression Vann walked on at ECU as a punter. I guess that's not the case.

I hope the MC/MU game keeps being the last game of the year and if so, we need a trophy for the game. Any thoughts?
i think that was the intention, but apparently he did not make the team at ecu or decided not to play...

i think the trophy could be a holographic barn burning...8 of the last 10 games decided by 1 score, with one of those games that wasn't (last year) being very much in question under 4 minutes and one of those games (2009) going 4 ot's...those classify as barn burners, to me
If Methodist hadn't changed its name to University, you could award the MC Hammer as a trophy ... I envision a Thor-esque hammer nailing the game on the last play with a thunderbolt ... either that or a shadow box with a framed CD with an endless remix of "Can't Touch This ..." and the IRS logo.  It could happen.  :)
+1.... For obvious reasons.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 17, 2014, 06:49:30 PM
cnu85, looks like a favorable draw for your team.  I saw Del Val last week and they are ok.  The offense is good with a bruising running back, but the QB struggled with his passes and hurt them.  The defense is ok, but can be moved on and your QB will be able to do things against them.  I think it will be a good game and you guys have a chance to win it.  Good luck this week.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 17, 2014, 08:37:47 PM
Quote from: narch on November 17, 2014, 09:28:17 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 01:44:09 AM
Vann has eligibility left?
one year...he played one season at ncwc and two at mu, so there is a year left - i'm sure he was a great intramural qb at ecu, but that doesn't count against his eligibility :)

i've heard his plan is to enter the MU MBA program and play out the final year of eligibility...i believe that's the plan, but we'll see - going from reber to vann would be a perfect scenario for mu...
So if he was a freshman at NCWC in 2010 and played at MU in '13 and '14, was he in school at ECU both of the other years or was he out of school for one of them? If he has been in school continuously the whole time then this spring will be his tenth semester. Ten semesters is all you get.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 10:14:47 PM
That's where it gets fuzzy. If he skipped a semester then he has the fall semester and is good to go. But what if he went to classes for a month one semester and then, basically, dropped out (for the rest of the semester). Does that count as one of the ten? Don't know. But I'm pretty sure MU has a compliance guy/director that does it full time, or at least I think they do. Why jeopardize the whole season on one guy?

I'll check the methodist website for a compliance director.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 10:18:19 PM
Vann is listed as a junior and they have 3 ADs, so I'm sure they are on top of it.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 18, 2014, 07:20:34 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 10:14:47 PMBut what if he went to classes for a month one semester and then, basically, dropped out (for the rest of the semester). Does that count as one of the ten?

That semester would count.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 18, 2014, 09:23:54 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 17, 2014, 06:49:30 PM
cnu85, looks like a favorable draw for your team.  I saw Del Val last week and they are ok.  The offense is good with a bruising running back, but the QB struggled with his passes and hurt them.  The defense is ok, but can be moved on and your QB will be able to do things against them.  I think it will be a good game and you guys have a chance to win it.  Good luck this week.

I must say, wesleydad, going to Delaware Valley is a lot better than going to Wesley or Mount Union.  Now, that said, CNU will have to play extremely well to have a chance against DVC, but we'll see what happens....if CNU's defense was better, I'd feel more confident.

GO CAPS!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 18, 2014, 10:17:05 AM
Appears CNU got a very favorable pairing for a 7-3 team. Good luck on Saturday and bring home the win.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 18, 2014, 11:20:38 AM
Agreed, tfa....let's see if they can take advantage.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 18, 2014, 01:26:54 PM
Much better draw than last time CNU made the playoffs. If Morrast and Co. can keep playing well AND THE SPECIAL TEAMS PLAY LIKE THEY DID AGAINST MC  >:( we could see a second round game for the USA South.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 18, 2014, 01:44:18 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on November 18, 2014, 10:17:05 AM
Appears CNU got a very favorable pairing for a 7-3 team. Good luck on Saturday and bring home the win.
hmm...somewhat favorable, maybe...very favorable, not so sure...

del valley is 9-1 and ranked #16 in the country by d3football.com - their only loss is on the road at 10-0 widener, who is ranked #11 nationally by d3football.com - in the last public regional rankings, del valley was ranked #1 in the east region - they were at least 2-1 vs. regionally ranked opponents - while i agree that it's somewhat favorable that cnu got what appears to be the #5 seed in their "region" (due primarily to geography), it isn't like they are hosting the #8 seed as the #7 seed or something like we've seen in the past - they've still got to go on the road and play a good team - i'm sure as a hsc fan, you feel like the tigers should be where cnu is...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 18, 2014, 01:53:31 PM
Of the 2 loss or greater teams, only CNU and Franklin aren't playing undefeated teams. Of the 3 loss or greater teams, only CNU is playing a team outside the D3 Top 10. So yeah, CNU got the best draw of the teams that lost more than a playoff team should lose...

Whether that is "somewhat favorable" or "very favorable" is a matter of semantics.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 18, 2014, 02:29:04 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 18, 2014, 01:53:31 PM
Of the 2 loss or greater teams, only CNU and Franklin aren't playing undefeated teams. Of the 3 loss or greater teams, only CNU is playing a team outside the D3 Top 10. So yeah, CNU got the best draw of the teams that lost more than a playoff team should lose...

Whether that is "somewhat favorable" or "very favorable" is a matter of semantics.
personally, i think "very favorable" is a #7 seed getting to host a #8 seed, so if you frame it in this way, sending cnu on the road to the #16 team in the country doesn't seem nearly as favorable ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 18, 2014, 02:33:48 PM
Narch

Actually I feel HSC got the pairing the absolutely deserve. This team under performed. Any team with a 7-3 record should be on the road to play a #1 or #2 seed. So no, I absolutely do not feel HSC should have received the CNU pairing; just saying at 7-3 CNU got the best pairing it could have gotten. I thought for sure CNU was heading to UMU, and probably should have.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2014, 02:50:32 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 17, 2014, 06:49:30 PM
cnu85, looks like a favorable draw for your team.  I saw Del Val last week and they are ok.  The offense is good with a bruising running back, but the QB struggled with his passes and hurt them.  The defense is ok, but can be moved on and your QB will be able to do things against them.  I think it will be a good game and you guys have a chance to win it.  Good luck this week.

Thanks man!! We will see what happens.....that's why they play the game! I'm hoping it is a competitive game and of course it would be nice to see CNU playing another week!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 18, 2014, 02:53:20 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on November 18, 2014, 02:33:48 PM
Narch

Actually I feel HSC got the pairing the absolutely deserve. This team under performed. Any team with a 7-3 record should be on the road to play a #1 or #2 seed. So no, I absolutely do not feel HSC should have received the CNU pairing; just saying at 7-3 CNU got the best pairing it could have gotten. I thought for sure CNU was heading to UMU, and probably should have.

I was thinking MT Union or Wesley would be in the cards for CNU. But either way, once you get to the round of 32, every game is difficult....especially road games!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 18, 2014, 03:39:32 PM
yep, I thought UMU for CNU so like I stated earlier, CNU got a very favorable pairing. That said, go up there and take advantage of it. We all know only 4 or 5 teams have a real chance to win the championship, teams ranked in the bottom half of the top 10 and down are good, but  beatable. Play your best and have fun !!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bman on November 18, 2014, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 18, 2014, 01:53:31 PM
Of the 2 loss or greater teams, only CNU and Franklin aren't playing undefeated teams. Of the 3 loss or greater teams, only CNU is playing a team outside the D3 Top 10. So yeah, CNU got the best draw of the teams that lost more than a playoff team should lose...

Whether that is "somewhat favorable" or "very favorable" is a matter of semantics.

We (in the MAC) really are kind of baffled by the pairing as well.  By all rights, CNU, should have travelled to Widener, and Del Val should have hosted Muhlenberg...assuming the bracket would stayed as it is...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D3MAFAN on November 18, 2014, 04:36:10 PM
Quote from: bman on November 18, 2014, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 18, 2014, 01:53:31 PM
Of the 2 loss or greater teams, only CNU and Franklin aren't playing undefeated teams. Of the 3 loss or greater teams, only CNU is playing a team outside the D3 Top 10. So yeah, CNU got the best draw of the teams that lost more than a playoff team should lose...

Whether that is "somewhat favorable" or "very favorable" is a matter of semantics.

We (in the MAC) really are kind of baffled by the pairing as well.  By all rights, CNU, should have travelled to Widener, and Del Val should have hosted Muhlenberg...assuming the bracket would stayed as it is...

Maybe it had something to do with recent history. When was the last time each teams have faced each other. I know Del Val recently played the Mules and Widener played CNU (or was the NC Wesleyan). Nevertheless, I don't think Del Val or Widener (if both teams win) should have played each other in the second round.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bman on November 18, 2014, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: D3MAFAN-MG on November 18, 2014, 04:36:10 PM
Quote from: bman on November 18, 2014, 04:27:05 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 18, 2014, 01:53:31 PM
Of the 2 loss or greater teams, only CNU and Franklin aren't playing undefeated teams. Of the 3 loss or greater teams, only CNU is playing a team outside the D3 Top 10. So yeah, CNU got the best draw of the teams that lost more than a playoff team should lose...

Whether that is "somewhat favorable" or "very favorable" is a matter of semantics.

We (in the MAC) really are kind of baffled by the pairing as well.  By all rights, CNU, should have travelled to Widener, and Del Val should have hosted Muhlenberg...assuming the bracket would stayed as it is...

Maybe it had something to do with recent history. When was the last time each teams have faced each other. I know Del Val recently played the Mules and Widener played CNU (or was the NC Wesleyan). Nevertheless, I don't think Del Val or Widener (if both teams win) should have played each other in the second round.

Pat and Keith pointed it out on the podcast..seems to be much of that in this year's field...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 19, 2014, 08:18:17 AM
am i the only one who sees the irony of a hsc fan complaining about   pointing out a favorable pairing?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 19, 2014, 08:31:24 AM
Narch

No complaints, if fact I said HSC got the pairing they deserved and I wished CNU good luck. If thats a complaint than I guess I'm complaining.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 19, 2014, 11:18:38 AM
Narch

Better, and again, good luck to CNU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Swish3 on November 19, 2014, 11:49:22 AM
Quote from: narch on November 19, 2014, 08:18:17 AM
am i the only one who sees the irony of a hsc fan complaining about   pointing out a favorable pairing?

No, you're not the only one, narch....I had forgotten/overlooked the fact that H-SC got a gift last year, until I went back and reread your post about the #7 seed hosting the #8 seed.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 19, 2014, 01:32:01 PM
usa south all-conference selections (http://usasouth.net/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20141118dlg3dx) are out...nothing earth-shattering or surprising - alston offensive player of the year, brownell dpoty, kelchner coty

i thought jacobs would be a first-teamer if they named 3 wr's (they did), but he wasn't...the numbers say he should have been - in conference games he was 2nd in catches, 3rd in yards, 8th in ypc and 2nd in tds...overall he was 3rd in catches, 3rd in yards, 6th in ypc and 3rd in td's - that looks like one of the top 3 wr's in the conference to me

congrats to all...all very deserving in my book!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 19, 2014, 01:57:56 PM
I wonder what the developments are in the Alston case? Do schools have to be transparent in things of that nature or it is what it is? I doubt they (USA South officials) would have made him the OPOTY if they heard about it. Morrast or Rudy Rudolph would've been my votes.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 19, 2014, 02:54:04 PM
Narch/Swish3

I've touched a nerve. I admitted last year that HSC caught a break. This year I'm glad CNU, with a 7-3 record, got a break by not going to MU.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 19, 2014, 09:47:22 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on November 19, 2014, 02:54:04 PM
Narch/Swish3

I've touched a nerve. I admitted last year that HSC caught a break. This year I'm glad CNU, with a 7-3 record, got a break by not going to MU.

I knew what ya meant. All is good!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 19, 2014, 09:55:15 PM
Before people start tuning out for the off season. I just want to say thanks for all the fun times on this board over the years. It is because of this board and the ODAC board that I met some really awesome individuals. I've been to tailgates and campuses around the region. I've been to the Stagg Bowl, Bridgewater, Mary Hardin-Baylor NCW, Averett, HSC, Shenandoah and Maryville. I've bantered with the best - Narch, Scots13, Battered Bard, and many others. Soon it will be time to head over to the NJAC board in the East region where I get to continue the fun with Wesleydad...whom I've had the pleasure of meeting and tailgating with as well. I will be making trips once again to Dover and Salisbury and probably add a few more up north. I will keep lurking around.

CNU went to 10 NCAA playoffs in the 14 years of football in this conference. I will be watching to see who steps up now and becomes dominant. Good luck to all. It has been great. I will check in once in a while!

cheers!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 20, 2014, 11:06:44 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 06:13:48 PM
Quote from: hasanova on November 17, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: narch on November 17, 2014, 01:33:07 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 17, 2014, 10:29:10 AM
I was under the impression Vann walked on at ECU as a punter. I guess that's not the case.

I hope the MC/MU game keeps being the last game of the year and if so, we need a trophy for the game. Any thoughts?
i think that was the intention, but apparently he did not make the team at ecu or decided not to play...

i think the trophy could be a holographic barn burning...8 of the last 10 games decided by 1 score, with one of those games that wasn't (last year) being very much in question under 4 minutes and one of those games (2009) going 4 ot's...those classify as barn burners, to me
If Methodist hadn't changed its name to University, you could award the MC Hammer as a trophy ... I envision a Thor-esque hammer nailing the game on the last play with a thunderbolt ... either that or a shadow box with a framed CD with an endless remix of "Can't Touch This ..." and the IRS logo.  It could happen.  :)
+1.... For obvious reasons.
Thanks.  The pen keyboard is mightier than the sword bored.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 22, 2014, 02:50:57 PM
Congrats, CNU. Great comeback. WTG.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 22, 2014, 02:52:59 PM
USA (south)! USA (south)! USA (south)!

Congrats CNU! Thatta way to end your run in the conference. Best of luck in the future!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 22, 2014, 03:25:55 PM
What a game. I'm down in NC and was listening to radio feed. When it got to 26-7, I took iPad into hotel room and dozed while listening. Damn Captains kept me awake with all that scoring!!!!

I figured it wasn't in cards when the extra point was missed and score remained tied. Student just doesnt miss many.

Then he booted a 38 yarder as time expired to win the game.

Second half was amazing. Everyone played well...defense held DVC to just over 100 yards in 2nd half while CNU put over 300 yards. 

Now I don't know if I should take a nap or go drink a beer.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on November 22, 2014, 06:17:18 PM
  Congratulations and well done CNU. Keep it going next weekend against the Pride.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on November 22, 2014, 07:17:44 PM
Well done Captains, it's a good feeling to win a road playoff game. Proud Captain!

Olando 54
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 22, 2014, 07:38:24 PM
Oh Captains, my Captains ... Nice.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 22, 2014, 07:55:41 PM
cnu85, I will be watching your team next week at widener since there is no reason for me to drive to dover to watch wesley crush MIT.  10 min drive for me to widener.  they were given a gift today by muhlenberg.  your team has a chance again this week.  i have seen widener twice this year and find them to be ok.  morrast will be able to do things and make life tough for the pride d.  your defense will have to play better or you are looking at a shootout.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 22, 2014, 08:07:39 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 22, 2014, 07:55:41 PM
cnu85, I will be watching your team next week at widener since there is no reason for me to drive to dover to watch wesley crush MIT.  10 min drive for me to widener.  they were given a gift today by muhlenberg.  your team has a chance again this week.  i have seen widener twice this year and find them to be ok.  morrast will be able to do things and make life tough for the pride d.  your defense will have to play better or you are looking at a shootout.

Defense has been getting better every game this year. Held DVC to 328 year and 26 points. Normally they have over 500 yds and averaged 40+.  CNU has 8 returning starters on D from last Year's team that only allowed 12.7 ppg. But they lost entire LB corps. Been making changes and it seems to be working. Held DVC to 2 straight 3 and outs in the 4th qt.

Morrast is a beast and also improving very week. He was 4 yards short of entire DVC offensive output today. He had 108 yds rushing and 216 passing.

Trying to figure out a plan to maybe go to game next weekend.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bman on November 22, 2014, 09:37:34 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 22, 2014, 07:55:41 PM
cnu85, I will be watching your team next week at widener since there is no reason for me to drive to dover to watch wesley crush MIT.  10 min drive for me to widener.  they were given a gift today by muhlenberg.  your team has a chance again this week.  i have seen widener twice this year and find them to be ok.  morrast will be able to do things and make life tough for the pride d.  your defense will have to play better or you are looking at a shootout.

Wesleydad
I will be there as well...
Time for us to finally meet!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 23, 2014, 11:31:54 PM
just returned from a weekend on the lacrosse fields (in va beach, of all places) and i'm catching up...great win, captains! nice to go on the road and beat a good team! keep it up!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on November 24, 2014, 09:52:46 AM
Congrats to CNU on the victory. I believe ya'll have a very winnable game this coming weekend. Go get it done and advance to the quarters.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 24, 2014, 11:38:32 AM
I just realized DelVal was ranked 16th. Nice win for CNU and the USA South. I hope some scouts hear about Mason Studer. That kid can kick the damn ball. If it wasn't for him, Maryville has a better chance of beating CNU and representing the conference, but after a game winner in the playoffs I have nothing but warm holiday feelings for the Captains and their special teams. Go on and win this weekend. I'll be watching from Maryville as I will be visiting family for Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 24, 2014, 12:21:36 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 24, 2014, 11:38:32 AM
I just realized DelVal was ranked 16th. Nice win for CNU and the USA South. I hope some scouts hear about Mason Studer. That kid can kick the damn ball. If it wasn't for him, Maryville has a better chance of beating CNU and representing the conference, but after a game winner in the playoffs I have nothing but warm holiday feelings for the Captains and their special teams. Go on and win this weekend. I'll be watching from Maryville as I will be visiting family for Thanksgiving.

Coach said in post game that he hoped an NFL team would give him a shot. Coach would know what he is talking about...he worked with kickers at W&M and some guy named Steve Christie.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 24, 2014, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 24, 2014, 12:21:36 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 24, 2014, 11:38:32 AM
I just realized DelVal was ranked 16th. Nice win for CNU and the USA South. I hope some scouts hear about Mason Studer. That kid can kick the damn ball. If it wasn't for him, Maryville has a better chance of beating CNU and representing the conference, but after a game winner in the playoffs I have nothing but warm holiday feelings for the Captains and their special teams. Go on and win this weekend. I'll be watching from Maryville as I will be visiting family for Thanksgiving.

Coach said in post game that he hoped an NFL team would give him a shot. Coach would know what he is talking about...he worked with kickers at W&M and some guy named Steve Christie.

CNU, let me know if you are heading up to see the game this weekend.  I am going and we can get together.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 25, 2014, 03:32:22 PM
I think the fun is over for CNU. If they want to keep winning and go deeper in the tournament, they have a tough road.
This Saturday is Widener, ranked 11th.
If they get past them, it either Linfield (10th) or UMHB (2nd).

Ouch.

Just saw this: Widener beat DelVal 44-28 Week 11. Dang...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 25, 2014, 03:38:04 PM
^I say that, but...

Then again, it didn't help DelVal had 6 turnovers.

LET'S GO CAPTAINS!




That's not blasphemy, is it?

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 25, 2014, 04:22:38 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 24, 2014, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 24, 2014, 12:21:36 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 24, 2014, 11:38:32 AM
I just realized DelVal was ranked 16th. Nice win for CNU and the USA South. I hope some scouts hear about Mason Studer. That kid can kick the damn ball. If it wasn't for him, Maryville has a better chance of beating CNU and representing the conference, but after a game winner in the playoffs I have nothing but warm holiday feelings for the Captains and their special teams. Go on and win this weekend. I'll be watching from Maryville as I will be visiting family for Thanksgiving.

Coach said in post game that he hoped an NFL team would give him a shot. Coach would know what he is talking about...he worked with kickers at W&M and some guy named Steve Christie.



CNU, let me know if you are heading up to see the game this weekend.  I am going and we can get together.

I was seriously thinking about it....but some stuff has caused me to miss it...will send you a msg
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 25, 2014, 04:23:56 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 24, 2014, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 24, 2014, 12:21:36 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 24, 2014, 11:38:32 AM
I just realized DelVal was ranked 16th. Nice win for CNU and the USA South. I hope some scouts hear about Mason Studer. That kid can kick the damn ball. If it wasn't for him, Maryville has a better chance of beating CNU and representing the conference, but after a game winner in the playoffs I have nothing but warm holiday feelings for the Captains and their special teams. Go on and win this weekend. I'll be watching from Maryville as I will be visiting family for Thanksgiving.

Coach said in post game that he hoped an NFL team would give him a shot. Coach would know what he is talking about...he worked with kickers at W&M and some guy named Steve Christie.

CNU, let me know if you are heading up to see the game this weekend.  I am going and we can get together.

Don't see a message icon. Is email address valid?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wesleydad on November 26, 2014, 10:23:32 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 25, 2014, 04:23:56 PM
Quote from: wesleydad on November 24, 2014, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 24, 2014, 12:21:36 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 24, 2014, 11:38:32 AM
I just realized DelVal was ranked 16th. Nice win for CNU and the USA South. I hope some scouts hear about Mason Studer. That kid can kick the damn ball. If it wasn't for him, Maryville has a better chance of beating CNU and representing the conference, but after a game winner in the playoffs I have nothing but warm holiday feelings for the Captains and their special teams. Go on and win this weekend. I'll be watching from Maryville as I will be visiting family for Thanksgiving.

Coach said in post game that he hoped an NFL team would give him a shot. Coach would know what he is talking about...he worked with kickers at W&M and some guy named Steve Christie.

CNU, let me know if you are heading up to see the game this weekend.  I am going and we can get together.

Don't see a message icon. Is email address valid?

Yes, the email with my info is my email that I use.  You can also send me a message through d3football.  Too bad you are not going to make it.  This game could be interesting if CNU can score and hold the Pride from scoring at will.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on November 27, 2014, 11:42:45 AM
All you Captains and USA conference guy enjoy the ride...never ever talk about a game that is not the game at hand. Winning one on the road really gives your conference a boost nationally...For Narch it means more chicks ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 27, 2014, 08:40:25 PM
Hope everyone has had a wonderful Thanksgiving and good luck to the Captains on Saturday.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 28, 2014, 06:20:39 PM
Go Captains
I hope yall drop 51 on em  ;D

keep the faith & Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on November 28, 2014, 06:43:20 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 28, 2014, 06:20:39 PM
Go Captains
I hope yall drop 51 on em  ;D

keep the faith & Go Hawks

Ditto that ... and War D*%# Eagle!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 28, 2014, 08:23:53 PM
Hoping for a good game tomorrow. Let's go Captains!!!!!!


Trivia...only 2 college football teams in Virginia have not had a losing season since 2001. CNU and a team playing on tv now.  Va Tech.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 29, 2014, 12:46:23 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on November 28, 2014, 08:23:53 PM
Hoping for a good game tomorrow. Let's go Captains!!!!!!


Trivia...only 2 college football teams in Virginia have not had a losing season since 2001. CNU and a team playing on tv now.  Va Tech.

Tech is 6-6 with tonight's Commonwealth Cup win. All too real possibility that trivia question is busted in a few weeks.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 29, 2014, 02:49:24 PM
CNU goes down 37-27. Down by 24 at one point. Never gave up. I think this gives CNU 417 points for the year. Best ever. Congrats Captains on a great season. Only 16 teams played today! On to the NJAC!!!

Good luck to the USA South next year!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 29, 2014, 09:35:17 PM
Good showing by the Captains .... never quitting
Good luck to The Captains next season
keep the faith

Go Hawks ( And War Eagle)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bman on November 30, 2014, 09:34:49 AM
Captains

Congrats on a great season!  You guys brought a great and loud crowd, fought hard, and were classy beginning to end.  Now that you will be in the NJAC, I hope we can meet sometime in the regular season, if the MAC-NJAC challenge continues...

Best of luck

...oh - and kick Rowan's @ss every year... ::)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 30, 2014, 11:25:06 PM
Ralph Turner
I hope you got my note
Go Hawks
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on December 01, 2014, 09:09:37 PM
Which Chris Newp fans are willing to give LINFIELD advice for WIDENER this weekend?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on December 01, 2014, 10:22:16 PM
Nice season CNU ... best of luck in the NJAC!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: @d3jason on December 02, 2014, 10:36:56 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 01, 2014, 09:09:37 PM
Which Chris Newp fans are willing to give LINFIELD advice for WIDENER this weekend?

Stay west of I-95 on the campus. Chester doesn't have the best reputation. It's not far from the airport. What do you want to know?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on December 02, 2014, 11:15:42 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 01, 2014, 09:09:37 PM
Which Chris Newp fans are willing to give LINFIELD advice for WIDENER this weekend?

play hard. don't give up. enjoy a philly cheesesteak!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on December 02, 2014, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: hasanova on December 01, 2014, 10:22:16 PM
Nice season CNU ... best of luck in the NJAC!

Thank you sir!!

And thanks to everyone on this board for the support during the playoffs. Was nice.

Here we come NJAC!!!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on December 05, 2014, 08:24:25 AM
Another award for a CNU Captain! Congrats Rudy Rudolph!!

http://cnusports.com/news/2014/12/4/FB_1204144322.aspx (http://cnusports.com/news/2014/12/4/FB_1204144322.aspx)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DVgradRUdad on December 05, 2014, 07:39:16 PM
looking forward to CNU coming into the NJAC, which should be one of the premier conferences in the nation, enjoyed traveling down to watch Rowan play at CNU years back ! Great Season !
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cnusfinest54 on December 06, 2014, 10:23:58 AM
Congrats on a great run in the USA South CNU. Way to fight until the end and let's make a new legacy in the NJAC!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on December 08, 2014, 04:20:14 PM
Congrats to CNU guys making all region team... Studer, Rudolph and Copening.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on January 09, 2015, 09:14:23 PM
Schedule time! No schedule on the football site yet but the event calendar on Huntingdon's website was populated at some point today so I was able to pull the schedule from that.

9/5       Louisiana College
9/12    @Birmingham Southern
9/26    @Belhaven
10/3    NC Wesleyan
10/10   @Ferrum
10/17   @LaGrange
10/24   Methodist
10/31   @Greensboro
11/7      Maryville
11/14   Averett

Two near by road games and a trip to visit the wife's family near Jackson. Pretty nice.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 11, 2015, 07:28:22 PM
MC will be playing FCS re-boot East Tennessee State September 9th in a Thursday night game.

Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on January 11, 2015, 11:03:14 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on January 11, 2015, 07:28:22 PM
MC will be playing FCS re-boot East Tennessee State September 9th in a Thursday night game.

Blah.  What is the point of that match up?  Plenty of D3 options for Maryville. Hope they are getting paid good money to waste a game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 12, 2015, 10:56:00 AM
Quote from: jknezek on January 11, 2015, 11:03:14 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on January 11, 2015, 07:28:22 PM
MC will be playing FCS re-boot East Tennessee State September 9th in a Thursday night game.

Blah.  What is the point of that match up?  Plenty of D3 options for Maryville. Hope they are getting paid good money to waste a game.

Coach Rader played at ETSU. E&H is also playing them.
I'm not sure it's wasting a game. Wasting a game was the game in 2011(?) MC played against Tennessee Tech, who went on to win the OVC. They paid MC $25k for the game. Maybe ETSU is doing the same. I know MC is renovating the weight room and needs about $20k more to hit the $100k goal.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on January 12, 2015, 12:22:15 PM
Other than the money, what does MC get out of it? Out of division, doesn't count for trying to make or get seeded in the playoffs. First year team, so it's basically a bunch of freshman. You win you beat a freshman team. You lose, you lost to a freshman team with scholarships. Either way it doesn't mean much to anyone who thinks about it.

I understand these games when there is no one else to play or no one else who will play you. Or I guess if you really need the money. Otherwise, I don't see the point...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 12, 2015, 01:05:08 PM
Money (if there is any in this case) talks.

If MC loses to ETSU then whoop-ti-do. Look what Mercer did in 2013 as a start up--10-2. Or what ODU did in 2009 at 9-2.

But if MC beats ETSU early in the season and ETSU finishes 5-5 (because let's face it, not every team is going to be an ODU or Mercer) what does that say then? That MC beat a "team of freshmen with scholarships"? What was said about Wesley playing Charlotte in their first year?

Am I saying it's a done deal MC is going up to Johnson City and beating ETSU? no. The fact MC is D3 and ETSU is a restart FCS with scholarships, it's the most level playing field, in my mind, that you can get when you jump 2 divisions. Since Johnson City is so close and the game is on a Thursday night, travel expenses will be minimal. MC and ETSU aren't but about 2 hours apart.

And, to top it all off, recruiting has a lot to do with it. Look at ETSU's roster and you'll find a whole bunch of Knoxville area kids. They would have been pretty dang good D3 players obviously and probably decent D2 kids (Tusculum and Carson Newman are in E. Tenn.), but they were lured to JC by the fact ETSU needed a roster and had scholarships to burn. If MC beats ETSU it's basically a way for Rader & Co. to show recruits not to overlook smaller division schools in the area including D2 SAC schools like TC, C-NU, L-R, Mars Hill, etc. It would be a kick in the you-know-whats if those Knoxville area kids go to a FCS school and lose to a D3 with a chance to lose to another a few weeks later, ESPECIALLY if Maryville recruited them.
Oh yeah, and the thing about a Thursday night game helps MC in recruiting too. I wouldn't be surprised if the game was on local TV with kids from TN, VA, NC, and KY being able to see it.

And let's be honest. You'll be pulling for MC to win, just like I'll be pulling for E&H to beat them 2 weeks later and I'm no fan of E&H. It's natural as D3 guys to want to see other D3s beat higher division schools. ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on January 12, 2015, 01:20:18 PM
5-5 or 6-4 should be attainable for ETSU. Looks like either they had trouble getting home games from established FCS programs or just wanted to make sure their home games were all winnable. 4 road games at established FCS schools. 6 home games are against a first year FCS, 2 D3's, 2 NAIA's and always dreaded College of Faith(talk about a wasted game).
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 12, 2015, 01:56:51 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on January 12, 2015, 01:20:18 PM
5-5 or 6-4 should be attainable for ETSU. Looks like either they had trouble getting home games from established FCS programs or just wanted to make sure their home games were all winnable. 4 road games at established FCS schools. 6 home games are against a first year FCS, 2 D3's, 2 NAIA's and always dreaded College of Faith(talk about a wasted game).

Good point on little sisters of the poor, I mean College of Faith.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 12, 2015, 02:09:46 PM
If we want to talk about wasted games, Maryville could play Mount Union, UWW, UMHB, Wesley, or Linfield  all of which are D3s and most people would consider that a wasted game.
So, why not play up a few divisions, jam to a little Steve Miller Band and take the money and run?

We went 4-6 in 2011, losing to Tennessee Tech 56-7 and got paid $25k to do it. Not a bad memory for 2 reasons:
1) We got new gear
2) We played in a real Division 1 game in a real Division 1 stadium.

And to get the full side of MC's story out there, TTU had to go for it like 3 times on 4th down. Too bad they scored on 1 of them.
And they caught a 60-ish yard Hail Mary before the half for a score. So, I'd like to think the score could've been 42-7.  ;D
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on January 12, 2015, 02:33:52 PM
I don't think playing UMU or UWW or the power teams are wasted games. If your ambition is to compete at that level of D3, then playing those games shows you what you need to do. You are never competing at any level of FCS in D3, so playing at that level is only good for the money.

Money is it's own purpose, of course, and I understand that. As for recruiting, beating a team of freshman is a small recruiting benefit for a short time. But in a year or two or three, the recruiting advantage is silly. "We beat them as freshman, we are competitive with them! Come here, don't waste your time in FCS..." wouldn't work when that matured FCS team would essentially splat you all over the field.

As for Wesley playing Charlotte, Wesley had a different set of problems. Very few teams in D3 would play them and they needed to fill a schedule. Especially mid to end of season when the vast majority of D3 is playing conference games. Maryville isn't that intimidating, nor do they need mid/end of season non-conf slots filled. They might have scheduling problems, but not like pre-NJAC Wesley had.

Finally, being on TV is nice for recruiting, but you better hope MC is competitive. If they aren't, everyone in that area that cares, admittedly probably not that many people, is going to see a team go splat against essentially freshman. Not going to help your recruiting... If you do win, or are pretty competitive, then I agree it is a marginally useful recruiting tool for a year.

And yes, I will be pulling for MC. But I still think, outside of the money, it's a wasted game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on January 12, 2015, 03:24:22 PM
Good for Maryville.

Much needed cash.
A chance for players to play at a FCS venue.

(Respectfully, it is unlikely that Maryville will beat a D-3 power to give them enough extra criteria to earn a first roound home game in the "South Region" after winning the USAC.  Playoff "home game" seeding is the real reason to play a tough non-conference schedule.  Texas Lutheran still gets shipped to UMHB. The West Coast teams still fly up and down the coast.  The USAC has too few other conferences around it to build its protfolio of quality SOS, as one has in the midwest.)

Also 22 year old D-3 men are more mature than18 yr old FCS freshmen.  As with the 2011 McMurry team that beat UT-San Antonio.) It should be an interesting game.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 12, 2015, 03:58:03 PM
A matured ETSU team probably would splat Maryville or most any D3 team on the field, given the fact they can non-medical RS. They might be freshmen next season, but 19 and maybe 20 year old freshmen. Much different than a freshmen team like Berry had 2 years ago.

Better beat them early. That UTSA team McMurray beat in 2011 is in C-USA and giving teams like 'Zona a run for their money albeit going 4-8.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 12, 2015, 04:10:34 PM
Quote from: jknezek on January 12, 2015, 02:33:52 PM

Money is it's own purpose, of course, and I understand that. As for recruiting, beating a team of freshman is a small recruiting benefit for a short time. But in a year or two or three, the recruiting advantage is silly. "We beat them as freshman, we are competitive with them! Come here, don't waste your time in FCS..." wouldn't work when that matured FCS team would essentially splat you all over the field.


In a year or two, half of the kids Torbush brought in to fill roster spots probably won't see the field. To think each kid ETSU has on its roster is FCS caliber is goofy.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on January 13, 2015, 12:14:41 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on January 12, 2015, 04:10:34 PM
Quote from: jknezek on January 12, 2015, 02:33:52 PM

Money is it's own purpose, of course, and I understand that. As for recruiting, beating a team of freshman is a small recruiting benefit for a short time. But in a year or two or three, the recruiting advantage is silly. "We beat them as freshman, we are competitive with them! Come here, don't waste your time in FCS..." wouldn't work when that matured FCS team would essentially splat you all over the field.


In a year or two, half of the kids Torbush brought in to fill roster spots probably won't see the field. To think each kid ETSU has on its roster is FCS caliber is goofy.

Not sure what your point is.  You pointed out it is good for recruiting if they win. I agree for an exceedingly limited shelf life. An FCS school with three or four recruiting classes is likely to be significantly better than one with a year and some kids who were willing to sit out to start a program. So whatever recruiting advantage you get from beating up on freshman is irrelevant a year or two later. To claim otherwise is silly.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on January 29, 2015, 08:36:51 AM
AND you do not have to be a old beaten down thug; such as myself. Just ensure they are germane to the conversation not "What's Germany got to do with this?" ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on January 29, 2015, 08:39:48 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on January 29, 2015, 08:36:51 AM
AND you do not have to be a old beaten down thug; such as myself. Just ensure they are germane to the conversation not "What's Germany got to do with this?" ;)

Posted in wrong sequence. Sorry. I am not drunk or under the influence

ANYWAY
Happy New Year and Merry Christmas to all you football lovers.

Only 2-3 months from spring camp.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on January 29, 2015, 10:11:26 AM
Quote from: abnrgr on January 29, 2015, 08:39:48 AM

ANYWAY
Happy New Year and Merry Christmas to all you football lovers.

Only 2-3 months from spring camp.
January 29. Are we still in the holiday greeting period? ;)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on January 29, 2015, 09:28:02 PM
Damn is it Feb already?  :)That's what a TBI will do for you Hawk. But a mitigating factor is it's my first post of the new year.

Hope things are well for you and also for your team.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 10, 2015, 02:58:09 PM
Apparently MC is using a few frequent flyer miles this offseason. Saw a tweet from a coach about this year's recruiting class.
Kids are coming in from TN, FL, GA like normal
TX and NC... becoming normal
AL (sorry Hawks and DG), MO, MS, IL, and CA.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on February 10, 2015, 04:49:55 PM
What happen to the day when recruits waited until May 1st, compare several financial packages from schools of interest and then decide where they were going. Great news that MC aleady has recruits locked in. Certainly does not work that way at HSC or most other ODAC schools.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on February 10, 2015, 04:58:18 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on February 10, 2015, 04:49:55 PM
What happen to the day when recruits waited until May 1st, compare several financial packages from schools of interest and then decide where they were going. Great news that MC aleady has recruits locked in. Certainly does not work that way at HSC or most other ODAC schools.

Lots of schools offer binding early admissions still. Some in the ODAC do, so it is possible that the schools know some recruits.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on February 10, 2015, 05:06:07 PM
I understand, HSC has about 10 locked in with many more showing interest. They are the ones looking at several schools and will compare the different packages. Also, several of these have invited walk on status at several schools and they must weight the pros and cons of what that really means.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 10, 2015, 06:26:28 PM
Reports out of Maryville is that Rader and DC Scott Brummet are leaving for ETSU.
They played there and were part of the last team before the University disbanded the team. Really hope this isn't true.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on February 12, 2015, 10:31:21 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on February 10, 2015, 06:26:28 PM
Reports out of Maryville is that Rader and DC Scott Brummet are leaving for ETSU.
They played there and were part of the last team before the University disbanded the team. Really hope this isn't true.

Looks like it's true, Scots.
http://mcscots.com/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/20150211e8ae3g
Hate to see him go. He was good for Maryville and good for the conference. Hopefully MC can get someone that can keep the program headed in a good direction.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on February 12, 2015, 10:45:54 AM
That's a tough loss. He was doing really good things in Maryville.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on February 12, 2015, 12:52:05 PM
It makes sense that Coach Rader would want to be part of building a program at his alma mater. 

I wonder if he would have made this decision if Maryville could pay him a respectable salary, the kind one would raise a family with.  Same issue for the successful coaches in other sports.  Really good coaches like Rader are unlikely to be able to resist getting paid unless they have money of their own or a partner with a good job and do not need to worry about finances.

It is not like DI where nobody seems to care if coaches make 100 times what chemists and historians make.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 18, 2015, 06:58:54 PM
MC named 7 year assistant Shaun Hayes head coach this afternoon. I guess an official release will come shortly.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 18, 2015, 07:27:48 PM
http://www.mcscots.com/sports/fball/2014-15/releases/201502180os3ce
...and here it is.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on April 01, 2015, 12:41:00 PM
Interesting headline:

http://www.mypanhandle.com/story/d/story/two-graceville-football-players-sign-scholarships/17360/4MJ-ygRtfUWAK8Cu4hBxIw

Simple fact checking is beyond the reach of newspapers these days... To be fair, headlines are usually written separately from the reporter who wrote the story, so it's likely the headline writer is at fault since the story does not mention scholarships.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 01, 2015, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 01, 2015, 12:41:00 PM
Interesting headline:

http://www.mypanhandle.com/story/d/story/two-graceville-football-players-sign-scholarships/17360/4MJ-ygRtfUWAK8Cu4hBxIw

Simple fact checking is beyond the reach of newspapers these days... To be fair, headlines are usually written separately from the reporter who wrote the story, so it's likely the headline writer is at fault since the story does not mention scholarships.
Would have been nice if they could have spelled Huntingdon correctly too.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on April 02, 2015, 10:53:13 AM
Would love to see Maryville and HSC on each others schedule for years to come. Not too far to travel and should help improve SOS for both schools.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on April 02, 2015, 06:40:55 PM
Quote from: tigerfanalso on April 02, 2015, 10:53:13 AM
Would love to see Maryville and HSC on each others schedule for years to come. Not too far to travel and should help improve SOS for both schools.
I wanted that when I was in school and now that I'm back in Farmville I definitely want it. A lot shorter drive than Danville, Ferrum, Greensboro, or Maryville.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on April 03, 2015, 03:37:29 PM
TFA..I got to thinking about a possible MC/HSC series.

This year MC plays ETSU. That'll be a one and done thing.
HSC plays the second game of the Wabash series. Is that it, or is it going to be renewed?

If not, maybe the MC/Berry game or the CNU/HSC game can be moved to fit the game into the schedule.

If there is a way, I hope there is a will.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: sigma one on April 03, 2015, 03:41:16 PM
The Wabash/Hampden-Sydney series is home and home.  It ends September 5th this year in Virginia, at least for now.   
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on April 03, 2015, 05:39:12 PM
Any thing exciting someone is just ready to "bust telling it". (as we say down in Havelock NC) The socioeconomic, educational, entertainment, sports, mecca of the coast.  :-\ Not to mention the attempt at the 4th straight state championship. That last part was for Admiral Papi who is a East Carteret Alum... :)
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerfanalso on April 06, 2015, 08:15:23 AM
Scots13

I don't think the Wabash contract will be renewed but I certainly speak with no authority.
I would think both CNU and HSC would want to continue playing each other because of SOS and the convenience for both schools. This year we play Ferrum, CNU and Wabash ooc. Next year I would love to see Maryville on the schedule. I'll suggest this to our to our AD.

How long have you've been back in Farmville ?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on April 06, 2015, 01:36:31 PM
SOS for both schools would improve greatly and travel, as you said, isn't much of a factor. In a bus a team can make the trip in about 6 hours or so. 75% interstate and the rest four lane US highways.
When the series with E&H was renewed, it was great having alums come speak to us about the rivalry and get us ready for the game. If only we can get them this year. I feel like it might have the same feeling with a renewed series with HSC.  We had a good amount of fans at the playoff game a few years back and it was a tremendous game.

I've been back in Farmville since last May. Coming up on a year...time has flown by.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on April 08, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on April 01, 2015, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 01, 2015, 12:41:00 PM
Interesting headline:

http://www.mypanhandle.com/story/d/story/two-graceville-football-players-sign-scholarships/17360/4MJ-ygRtfUWAK8Cu4hBxIw

Simple fact checking is beyond the reach of newspapers these days... To be fair, headlines are usually written separately from the reporter who wrote the story, so it's likely the headline writer is at fault since the story does not mention scholarships.
Would have been nice if they could have spelled Huntingdon correctly too.

The bottom 50% of the class have to find jobs somewhere.....I think we found where a few of them landed.....writing headlines. It is annoying when people, who have access to thousands of readers, do not get the facts straight or can't spell the name of a college correctly.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on April 08, 2015, 10:19:27 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on April 08, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on April 01, 2015, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 01, 2015, 12:41:00 PM
Interesting headline:

http://www.mypanhandle.com/story/d/story/two-graceville-football-players-sign-scholarships/17360/4MJ-ygRtfUWAK8Cu4hBxIw

Simple fact checking is beyond the reach of newspapers these days... To be fair, headlines are usually written separately from the reporter who wrote the story, so it's likely the headline writer is at fault since the story does not mention scholarships.
Would have been nice if they could have spelled Huntingdon correctly too.

The bottom 50% of the class have to find jobs somewhere.....I think we found where a few of them landed.....writing headlines. It is annoying when people, who have access to thousands of readers, do not get the facts straight or can't spell the name of a college correctly.

^ ouch.

You would think it's common knowledge D3 schools don't have athletic scholarships. I mean come on..aren't there like twice as many D3 schools as D1?
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: bman on April 13, 2015, 12:05:08 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on April 08, 2015, 10:19:27 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on April 08, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on April 01, 2015, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 01, 2015, 12:41:00 PM
Interesting headline:

http://www.mypanhandle.com/story/d/story/two-graceville-football-players-sign-scholarships/17360/4MJ-ygRtfUWAK8Cu4hBxIw

Simple fact checking is beyond the reach of newspapers these days... To be fair, headlines are usually written separately from the reporter who wrote the story, so it's likely the headline writer is at fault since the story does not mention scholarships.
Would have been nice if they could have spelled Huntingdon correctly too.

The bottom 50% of the class have to find jobs somewhere.....I think we found where a few of them landed.....writing headlines. It is annoying when people, who have access to thousands of readers, do not get the facts straight or can't spell the name of a college correctly.

^ ouch.

You would think it's common knowledge D3 schools don't have athletic scholarships. I mean come on..aren't there like twice as many D3 schools as D1?
The average D1 alum/football fan, has no Idea that D3 exists, other than maybe club sports.   
I spoke with a set of Florida State Alums in Talahassee last week, and we got on to the suject of football, since FSU had a scrimmage that day.   They had no idea who Mount Union or UWW was.  When I mentioned that there was indeed a D3 football championship, there was general smirking...and I have run into that elswhere.  In general, unless someone is a real football fan, D3 is not on a D1 alum's radar...
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GillCJ1 on April 13, 2015, 02:32:16 PM
Quote from: bman on April 13, 2015, 12:05:08 PM
The average D1 alum/football fan, has no Idea that D3 exists, other than maybe club sports.   
I spoke with a set of Florida State Alums in Talahassee last week, and we got on to the suject of football, since FSU had a scrimmage that day.   They had no idea who Mount Union or UWW was.  When I mentioned that there was indeed a D3 football championship, there was general smirking...and I have run into that elswhere.  In general, unless someone is a real football fan, D3 is not on a D1 alum's radar...

I just wanted to chime in here.  Obviously, I don't speak for others, but as someone who is relatively new to the whole D3 scene... I concur.  Before attending graduate school at a small, private D3 university, I had very little knowledge of the programs "below" the D1/FBS level.  Sure, I watched their championship games on ESPN when that time of the year came along, but I considered them to be glorified high school games. 

Boy was that a huge mistake on my part.

I did my undergrad at Georgia Tech (late 90s).  At that time the ACC wasn't much of a football conference.  Heck, some may argue they still aren't (FSU aside).  Still, I can remember having conversations with people who had absolutely no idea they played football in other divisions.  My experiences might be skewed, though.  GT isn't exactly breaking down the walls with knowledgeable sports fans.  However, looking back I wish I had known more about D3 (and D2, for that matter).  I missed out on so much because of my incredibly biased opinion on what constituted as "real" football.

Here's a neat story.  In the fall of 2013 I was in Atlanta visiting family.  I have lots of family and friends who are big sports fans, so our conversations naturally skew in that direction.  A few of us were watching an NFL game between Indianapolis and... honestly, I forget.  Ha!  Anyways, they were discussing the starters and we got to talking about how certain D1 schools are most represented in the pros.  I took the opportunity to explain how Indy's starting ILB (Jerrell Freeman) played for Mary Hardin-Baylor.  No one knew of the school, save for a few people who knew my wife worked there.  In fact, a few of the guys did not believe me until I had them look it up.  This led to a conversation on D3 schools in general and several of the guys had little to no knowledge it existed at all.  I know it made an impression on some of them.  Since then, one of those guys informed me he's started attending games at LaGrange College.

I hope more and more people begin to realize there is football being played outside of D1.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 15, 2015, 03:54:59 PM
http://www.golfstatresults.com/public/leaderboards/nonav.cfm?pg=team&tid=8026

Congratulations to Methodist and LaGrange for their 1-2 finish at the DIII National Men's Golf Championship in Greensboro.  Host Guilford finished 8th in the 41 team field.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ITH radio on May 27, 2015, 04:40:54 PM
http://polksports.com/brevard-college-division-iii/

Another potential NC based D3FB program enters mix in a cpl yrs.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 27, 2015, 08:07:59 PM
They have USA South written all over them, but I'd like to see 3 OOC games annually.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 28, 2015, 08:46:54 AM
The growth rate in D3 continues. There are some long term implications for this, but overall I'm happy to see the continued growth in the south. When you look at the density in the north east or midwest, the south has a lot of catching up to do. The USASC and SAA have pretty big travel footprints. More density can only help that and lower expenses in the future.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 28, 2015, 10:07:51 AM
Brevard is in western NC, so not so far from Maryville, Piedmont and the like.  It's a haul to NC Wesleyan in eastern NC and would have been a very long trip to CNU.  NC covers a lot of territory east to west ... with Tennessee, you can go Atlantic Ocean to the Mississippi River in only two states ... same with Virginia and Kentucky or Virginia and Tennessee (and, for you purists, Georgia and Tennessee lol).

I do not think Brevard would be a successful candidate for the ODAC or SAA ... USASAC is, in my opinion, their best option.  My nephew attended there as a DII basketball player, so I know their history in the DII South Atlantic Conference.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 28, 2015, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: hasanova on May 28, 2015, 10:07:51 AM
Brevard is in western NC, so not so far from Maryville, Piedmont and the like.  It's a haul to NC Wesleyan in eastern NC and would have been a very long trip to CNU.  NC covers a lot of territory east to west ... with Tennessee, you can go Atlantic Ocean to the Mississippi River in only two states ... same with Virginia and Kentucky or Virginia and Tennessee (and, for you purists, Georgia and Tennessee lol).

I do not think Brevard would be a successful candidate for the ODAC or SAA ... USASAC is, in my opinion, their best option.  My nephew attended there as a DII basketball player, so I know their history in the DII South Atlantic Conference.

Me either to the bolded part. I'm just thinking more overall density. The USASC is a huge geographic footprint, although not as bad as the ASC. The south just needs more density to lower the costs in a few of these conferences. The SAA is probably less worried about costs than fit, but I'd think the USASC would love to consolidate a bit. Huntingdon to CNU was a bear, so dropping the northern team helps. But Huntingdon to Averett is still almost 550 miles as is Huntingdon to Methodist. That's a long trip...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 28, 2015, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: jknezek on May 28, 2015, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: hasanova on May 28, 2015, 10:07:51 AM
Brevard is in western NC, so not so far from Maryville, Piedmont and the like.  It's a haul to NC Wesleyan in eastern NC and would have been a very long trip to CNU.  NC covers a lot of territory east to west ... with Tennessee, you can go Atlantic Ocean to the Mississippi River in only two states ... same with Virginia and Kentucky or Virginia and Tennessee (and, for you purists, Georgia and Tennessee lol).

I do not think Brevard would be a successful candidate for the ODAC or SAA ... USASAC is, in my opinion, their best option.  My nephew attended there as a DII basketball player, so I know their history in the DII South Atlantic Conference.

Me either to the bolded part. I'm just thinking more overall density. The USASC is a huge geographic footprint, although not as bad as the ASC. The south just needs more density to lower the costs in a few of these conferences. The SAA is probably less worried about costs than fit, but I'd think the USASC would love to consolidate a bit. Huntingdon to CNU was a bear, so dropping the northern team helps. But Huntingdon to Averett is still almost 550 miles as is Huntingdon to Methodist. That's a long trip...
Brevard was a JC in my lifetime and has a relatively small student body and alumni base ... I bet they don't have the finances (including endowment) to support far-flung travel.  I think they were taking their lumps in DII football with the likes of Carson-Newman and Lenoir-Rhyne in their conference.
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 28, 2015, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: bman on April 13, 2015, 12:05:08 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on April 08, 2015, 10:19:27 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on April 08, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on April 01, 2015, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 01, 2015, 12:41:00 PM
Interesting headline:

http://www.mypanhandle.com/story/d/story/two-graceville-football-players-sign-scholarships/17360/4MJ-ygRtfUWAK8Cu4hBxIw

Simple fact checking is beyond the reach of newspapers these days... To be fair, headlines are usually written separately from the reporter who wrote the story, so it's likely the headline writer is at fault since the story does not mention scholarships.
Would have been nice if they could have spelled Huntingdon correctly too.

The bottom 50% of the class have to find jobs somewhere.....I think we found where a few of them landed.....writing headlines. It is annoying when people, who have access to thousands of readers, do not get the facts straight or can't spell the name of a college correctly.

^ ouch.

You would think it's common knowledge D3 schools don't have athletic scholarships. I mean come on..aren't there like twice as many D3 schools as D1?
The average D1 alum/football fan, has no Idea that D3 exists, other than maybe club sports.   
I spoke with a set of Florida State Alums in Talahassee last week, and we got on to the suject of football, since FSU had a scrimmage that day.   They had no idea who Mount Union or UWW was.  When I mentioned that there was indeed a D3 football championship, there was general smirking...and I have run into that elswhere.  In general, unless someone is a real football fan, D3 is not on a D1 alum's radar...
I run into Greensboro natives from time to time who ask "Does Guilford play football?"  Sigh!  The answer is yes, since 1892, but 95% of what they see or read in the local news is about DI ... and I accept we are in the middle of Tobacco Road.  I doubt Guilford and Greensboro would make the front page of the Greensboro News and Record Sports section even if they went 15-0 and won the Stagg Bowl ... although I'd love to find out! 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 28, 2015, 03:18:56 PM
Quote from: jknezek on May 28, 2015, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: hasanova on May 28, 2015, 10:07:51 AM
Brevard is in western NC, so not so far from Maryville, Piedmont and the like.  It's a haul to NC Wesleyan in eastern NC and would have been a very long trip to CNU.  NC covers a lot of territory east to west ... with Tennessee, you can go Atlantic Ocean to the Mississippi River in only two states ... same with Virginia and Kentucky or Virginia and Tennessee (and, for you purists, Georgia and Tennessee lol).

I do not think Brevard would be a successful candidate for the ODAC or SAA ... USASAC is, in my opinion, their best option.  My nephew attended there as a DII basketball player, so I know their history in the DII South Atlantic Conference.


Me either to the bolded part. I'm just thinking more overall density. The USASC is a huge geographic footprint, although not as bad as the ASC. The south just needs more density to lower the costs in a few of these conferences. The SAA is probably less worried about costs than fit, but I'd think the USASC would love to consolidate a bit. Huntingdon to CNU was a bear, so dropping the northern team helps. But Huntingdon to Averett is still almost 550 miles as is Huntingdon to Methodist. That's a long trip...

Rough travel time from Brevard to the rest of the USA South:

Maryville 2:40
Huntingdon 5:30
LaGrange 4:25
Methodist 4:40
Averett 4
NC Wesleyan 3:15
Ferrum 4:20
Greensboro 3:15

Huntingdon to CNU is like 11 hours and HC to Ferrum is like 9. Ya win some, ya lose some.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 28, 2015, 04:46:53 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on May 28, 2015, 03:18:56 PM
Quote from: jknezek on May 28, 2015, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: hasanova on May 28, 2015, 10:07:51 AM
Brevard is in western NC, so not so far from Maryville, Piedmont and the like.  It's a haul to NC Wesleyan in eastern NC and would have been a very long trip to CNU.  NC covers a lot of territory east to west ... with Tennessee, you can go Atlantic Ocean to the Mississippi River in only two states ... same with Virginia and Kentucky or Virginia and Tennessee (and, for you purists, Georgia and Tennessee lol).

I do not think Brevard would be a successful candidate for the ODAC or SAA ... USASAC is, in my opinion, their best option.  My nephew attended there as a DII basketball player, so I know their history in the DII South Atlantic Conference.


Me either to the bolded part. I'm just thinking more overall density. The USASC is a huge geographic footprint, although not as bad as the ASC. The south just needs more density to lower the costs in a few of these conferences. The SAA is probably less worried about costs than fit, but I'd think the USASC would love to consolidate a bit. Huntingdon to CNU was a bear, so dropping the northern team helps. But Huntingdon to Averett is still almost 550 miles as is Huntingdon to Methodist. That's a long trip...

Rough travel time from Brevard to the rest of the USA South:

Maryville 2:40
Huntingdon 5:30
LaGrange 4:25
Methodist 4:40
Averett 4
NC Wesleyan 3:15
Ferrum 4:20
Greensboro 3:15

Huntingdon to CNU is like 11 hours and HC to Ferrum is like 9. Ya win some, ya lose some.
Thanks for putting this together ... I have to think Brevard to NCWC might be an error ... probably more like 5:15.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 28, 2015, 07:06:18 PM
Quote from: hasanova on May 28, 2015, 04:46:53 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on May 28, 2015, 03:18:56 PM
Quote from: jknezek on May 28, 2015, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: hasanova on May 28, 2015, 10:07:51 AM
Brevard is in western NC, so not so far from Maryville, Piedmont and the like.  It's a haul to NC Wesleyan in eastern NC and would have been a very long trip to CNU.  NC covers a lot of territory east to west ... with Tennessee, you can go Atlantic Ocean to the Mississippi River in only two states ... same with Virginia and Kentucky or Virginia and Tennessee (and, for you purists, Georgia and Tennessee lol).

I do not think Brevard would be a successful candidate for the ODAC or SAA ... USASAC is, in my opinion, their best option.  My nephew attended there as a DII basketball player, so I know their history in the DII South Atlantic Conference.


Me either to the bolded part. I'm just thinking more overall density. The USASC is a huge geographic footprint, although not as bad as the ASC. The south just needs more density to lower the costs in a few of these conferences. The SAA is probably less worried about costs than fit, but I'd think the USASC would love to consolidate a bit. Huntingdon to CNU was a bear, so dropping the northern team helps. But Huntingdon to Averett is still almost 550 miles as is Huntingdon to Methodist. That's a long trip...

Rough travel time from Brevard to the rest of the USA South:

Maryville 2:40
Huntingdon 5:30
LaGrange 4:25
Methodist 4:40
Averett 4
NC Wesleyan 3:15
Ferrum 4:20
Greensboro 3:15

Huntingdon to CNU is like 11 hours and HC to Ferrum is like 9. Ya win some, ya lose some.
Thanks for putting this together ... I have to think Brevard to NCWC might be an error ... probably more like 5:15.
It may be. I did this in haste at la oficina today. It's been a long short week.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 28, 2015, 07:07:42 PM
Yep. 5:09 from Brevard to Rocky Mount
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 29, 2015, 11:08:01 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on May 28, 2015, 07:07:42 PM
Yep. 5:09 from Brevard to Rocky Mount
Thanks.  +1
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 31, 2015, 04:25:14 PM
Brevard went from NAIA to D2 last decade.

http://den-oweb.petersons.com/ccc92/display_pdf?p_instance_id=183636.pdf
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 31, 2015, 06:58:01 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 31, 2015, 04:25:14 PM
Brevard went from NAIA to D2 last decade.

http://den-oweb.petersons.com/ccc92/display_pdf?p_instance_id=183636.pdf
Yep, they used to play in the Appalachian Athletic Conference, which does not have football:

http://www.aacsports.com/index.php
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 01, 2015, 10:52:48 AM
Huntingdon's current president was a vice president and dean at Brevard before coming to HC.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on June 02, 2015, 11:33:06 AM
Quote from: hasanova on May 28, 2015, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: jknezek on May 28, 2015, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: hasanova on May 28, 2015, 10:07:51 AM
Brevard is in western NC, so not so far from Maryville, Piedmont and the like.  It's a haul to NC Wesleyan in eastern NC and would have been a very long trip to CNU.  NC covers a lot of territory east to west ... with Tennessee, you can go Atlantic Ocean to the Mississippi River in only two states ... same with Virginia and Kentucky or Virginia and Tennessee (and, for you purists, Georgia and Tennessee lol).

I do not think Brevard would be a successful candidate for the ODAC or SAA ... USASAC is, in my opinion, their best option.  My nephew attended there as a DII basketball player, so I know their history in the DII South Atlantic Conference.
Me either to the bolded part. I'm just thinking more overall density. The USASC is a huge geographic footprint, although not as bad as the ASC. The south just needs more density to lower the costs in a few of these conferences. The SAA is probably less worried about costs than fit, but I'd think the USASC would love to consolidate a bit. Huntingdon to CNU was a bear, so dropping the northern team helps. But Huntingdon to Averett is still almost 550 miles as is Huntingdon to Methodist. That's a long trip...
Brevard was a JC in my lifetime and has a relatively small student body and alumni base ... I bet they don't have the finances (including endowment) to support far-flung travel.  I think they were taking their lumps in DII football with the likes of Carson-Newman and Lenoir-Rhyne in their conference.
Speaking of taking their "lumps", Brevard was 1-10 in 2014: started the season 0-10 and ended the season with a 66-0 win over Charlotte-based College(?) of Faith, a team that set all sorts of records for futility ... including a very lop-sided loss to Wesley.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 10, 2015, 04:53:32 PM
Not football related, but congratulations to MC short stop Nick Dean who was just picked up in the 32nd round of the MLB draft by the Dodgers.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: abnrgr on July 26, 2015, 11:05:31 PM
I guess the allure (to me anyway) of culling these schools from conferences as tied to ODAC and USA. The Carolina Conference created with only NC football schools and the Virginia Conference would have their potential of big time if they had all the VA schools in a VA conference, I am sure SOMEONE has talked about the VA conf. many times before. Just had my last surgery this past week so I should be ready for the summer.  Goof luck to everyone out of the conferences.  :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on July 31, 2015, 01:52:31 PM
so media day happened yesterday...any thoughts on the pre-season poll?

1. Huntingdon
2. Maryville
3. Methodist
4. Lagrange
5. NCWC
6. Averett
7. Ferrum
8. Greensboro
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 31, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
I would be very happy, of course, if it ended up like that.  ;D We have to figure out how to beat LaGrange and Methodist though, since that hasn't happened the last two years. If everybody we expect to be back makes it and we stay healthy, I like our chances.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on July 31, 2015, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 31, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
I would be very happy, of course, if it ended up like that.  ;D We have to figure out how to beat LaGrange and Methodist though, since that hasn't happened the last two years. If everybody we expect to be back makes it and we stay healthy, I like our chances.

Go Hawks!

Hey Hawks. I'm planning to be at B-SC this year for the game. Yellow motor home, parked on the hill behind the end zone. Family will be tailgating provided the little ones are healthy and the weather is good. If you are going to be at the game let me know and I'll char you some kind of meat and hand out the pop.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 31, 2015, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: jknezek on July 31, 2015, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 31, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
I would be very happy, of course, if it ended up like that.  ;D We have to figure out how to beat LaGrange and Methodist though, since that hasn't happened the last two years. If everybody we expect to be back makes it and we stay healthy, I like our chances.

Go Hawks!

Hey Hawks. I'm planning to be at B-SC this year for the game. Yellow motor home, parked on the hill behind the end zone. Family will be tailgating provided the little ones are healthy and the weather is good. If you are going to be at the game let me know and I'll char you some kind of meat and hand out the pop.
JK,
Right now we are planning on being at that one. Maybe I'll grill you some of my chicken wings.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 31, 2015, 10:47:32 PM
Has anyone taken a look at Canadian football? 12 men, 3 downs, larger field, crazy scoring.

I can get into this for the next month until we start real foosball...


(A game is on ESPN2 right now)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 03, 2015, 08:39:47 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 31, 2015, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: jknezek on July 31, 2015, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 31, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
I would be very happy, of course, if it ended up like that.  ;D We have to figure out how to beat LaGrange and Methodist though, since that hasn't happened the last two years. If everybody we expect to be back makes it and we stay healthy, I like our chances.

Go Hawks!

Hey Hawks. I'm planning to be at B-SC this year for the game. Yellow motor home, parked on the hill behind the end zone. Family will be tailgating provided the little ones are healthy and the weather is good. If you are going to be at the game let me know and I'll char you some kind of meat and hand out the pop.
JK,
Right now we are planning on being at that one. Maybe I'll grill you some of my chicken wings.

Excellent. Keep in touch about it. We are pretty obvious sitting up behind the end zone in our old RV.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 13, 2015, 07:59:47 AM
Quote from: narch on July 31, 2015, 01:52:31 PM
so media day happened yesterday...any thoughts on the pre-season poll?

1. Huntingdon
2. Maryville
3. Methodist
4. Lagrange
5. NCWC
6. Averett
7. Ferrum
8. Greensboro

Gotta say it is strange not seeing CNU in there somewhere for the first time in our football history. Things sure have changed. We now get Wesley and Salisbury every year along with some other strong teams. NJAC poll has CNU 5th!

Good luck to you guys this year. I will have to figure out which USA South team to support.....Perhaps Methodist!?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 13, 2015, 09:47:01 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 31, 2015, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: jknezek on July 31, 2015, 04:46:20 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 31, 2015, 02:12:33 PM
I would be very happy, of course, if it ended up like that.  ;D We have to figure out how to beat LaGrange and Methodist though, since that hasn't happened the last two years. If everybody we expect to be back makes it and we stay healthy, I like our chances.

Go Hawks!

Hey Hawks. I'm planning to be at B-SC this year for the game. Yellow motor home, parked on the hill behind the end zone. Family will be tailgating provided the little ones are healthy and the weather is good. If you are going to be at the game let me know and I'll char you some kind of meat and hand out the pop.
JK,
Right now we are planning on being at that one. Maybe I'll grill you some of my chicken wings.

Looks like they changed this to a night game? Probably won't make it with my kids. They are too young to be out that late. Bummer. I might still come by though.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 16, 2015, 10:02:35 PM
Huntingdon had 152 report this weekend with the first practice today. Ready to get the ball rolling. Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 21, 2015, 01:33:50 PM
MC announces captains and new alternate uniform.
http://mcscots.com/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/201508201tuyic

Saw a picture of the haze top with white pants. Looks sharp.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 21, 2015, 04:40:55 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 21, 2015, 01:33:50 PM
MC announces captains and new alternate uniform.
http://mcscots.com/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/201508201tuyic

Saw a picture of the haze top with white pants. Looks sharp.
I agree ... good looking uniform.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 21, 2015, 09:15:43 PM
Quick little report of the MC/BSC scrimmage today from the MC Athletics facebook page:

"Report from football scrimmage at Birmingham-Southern. After a slow start that included a pair of offensive turnovers, the Scots used a 60-yard TD run by Trenton Shuler and a 50-yard TD dash by Evan Pittenger along with a stingy defense that allowed only one score and a field goal."

With 2 All-USAC OL graduated, looks like Coach Bailey has some guys stepping up.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 22, 2015, 12:43:15 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 21, 2015, 01:33:50 PM
MC announces captains and new alternate uniform.
http://mcscots.com/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/201508201tuyic

Saw a picture of the haze top with white pants. Looks sharp.

Very nice!!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 24, 2015, 03:15:32 PM
Soup's ready!

Nineteenth annual Soup Bowl will be played September 5 at 7 pm in Jamieson Stadium at Grimsley HS in Greensboro (home field for the Greensboro College Pride).  Admission is usually free with a donation of nonperishable food items for a local food bank (I assume the same this year).  The two schools compete both on the field and to see which school raises the most donations.  Football, food and fun in this intracity rivalry now standing 10-8 in favor of the "visiting" Guilford College Quakers!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 25, 2015, 01:14:20 PM
I know we talked about this extensively last year, but good Lord Methodist. 224 players reporting to camp? 130, 150, 155 seems pretty normal for USAC teams these days. I saw NCWC had 190 and almost fell out of my chair.

224. That's literally enough for 10 strings.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 25, 2015, 01:31:12 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 25, 2015, 01:14:20 PM
I know we talked about this extensively last year, but good Lord Methodist. 224 players reporting to camp? 130, 150, 155 seems pretty normal for USAC teams these days. I saw NCWC had 190 and almost fell out of my chair.

224. That's literally enough for 10 strings.

Got to keep the college lights on apparently. I can imagine after a few days of practice the coaches have narrowed down anyone with promise and the others just get limped along until they quit. There is no way you can have a coaching staff with the ability to work with all those kids. Not enough money for enough coaches.

159 freshman.  28 sophomores. 25 juniors. 12 seniors. Kids learn quick when they've been sold a bill of goods about their odds of playing...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 26, 2015, 09:37:36 AM
I have to disagree with one thing in Kickoff. They make it seem like CNU was in the way of Huntingdon winning conference championships the last two years but that really wasn't the case as we beat them in '14 and didn't play them in '13. It was the losses to both Methodist and LaGrange both years that have kept us from at least sharing the title. Still can't figure out how we are 6-0 against LaGrange in games that have been non-conference games but 0-3 as conference foes. We are going to have to get that turned around soon.


Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on August 26, 2015, 10:17:02 AM
The idea that a D3 school would recruit and admit far more players than could ever play, take their money for at least one term (and maybe more), and "limp them along until they quit" does not offer a pretty picture.  If by chance any of those young men are from poor families and/or are African-American and they incur debt and experience some degree of failure, the practice is even more unseemly.

It is not an uncommon practice.  It is especially ironic when it is in place at "Christian" colleges and universities. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 26, 2015, 07:08:52 PM
The Ferrum Panthers scrimmage the Quakers at 4 pm tomorrow, 27-August, at Armfield Stadium on Guilford's campus in Greensboro.  Yay, football!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 26, 2015, 08:17:03 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 26, 2015, 07:08:52 PM
The Ferrum Panthers scrimmage the Quakers at 4 pm tomorrow, 27-August, at Armfield Stadium on Guilford's campus in Greensboro.  Yay, football!

Keep us posted if you're attending!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 27, 2015, 11:48:58 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 26, 2015, 08:17:03 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 26, 2015, 07:08:52 PM
The Ferrum Panthers scrimmage the Quakers at 4 pm tomorrow, 27-August, at Armfield Stadium on Guilford's campus in Greensboro.  Yay, football!

Keep us posted if you're attending!
I work about 30 miles from the game and have some duties later this afternoon, but I'll try to go and report later tonight.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 27, 2015, 05:30:39 PM
Guilford over Ferrum 22-0 @ half in scrimmage.  Quakers dominating so far ... one TD running, one TD passing, two FGs and a safety.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 27, 2015, 06:23:34 PM
GC 30-3 over FC in scrimmage ... Quakers solid on both sides ... rare 2 safeties.  I didn't see a lot of offensive threats out of Panthers, but, as expected, many players in for both sides.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 27, 2015, 08:46:33 PM
If they did the game in a full game format, then the 1's and 2's were in the first half, and the 22-0 score isn't surprising. Ready to see what happens in the OOC USAC/ODAC schedule.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 27, 2015, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 27, 2015, 08:46:33 PM
If they did the game in a full game format, then the 1's and 2's were in the first half, and the 22-0 score isn't surprising. Ready to see what happens in the OOC USAC/ODAC schedule.
That's pretty much the way it went.  I'm looking forward to the season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 27, 2015, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on August 26, 2015, 10:17:02 AM
The idea that a D3 school would recruit and admit far more players than could ever play, take their money for at least one term (and maybe more), and "limp them along until they quit" does not offer a pretty picture.  If by chance any of those young men are from poor families and/or are African-American and they incur debt and experience some degree of failure, the practice is even more unseemly.

It is not an uncommon practice.  It is especially ironic when it is in place at "Christian" colleges and universities. 
and exactly why is incurring debt and experiencing some degree of failure unseemly specifically for african-americans? if they meet academic standards, want an education and want to take out loans for that investment, shouldn't they be allowed to just like their caucasian, asian, native-american and hispanic counterparts? i'm not sure why the color of skin is relevant in any way? do you think that BECAUSE they are african-american, they are more likely to experience failure?

many children in poor families are the most willing to take on loan debt for their education...because they realize that education is a way out - as a first-generation college student, i personally was more than willing to take on pretty significant debt...and i've never regretted it - because of my education, my life is very different from most others in my family...income, benefits, insurance, work-flexibility...you name it, i have it in spades vs. most in my family and it's all  because i've got a piece of paper - many of those poor and/or african-american kids will get that piece of paper that will allow them to break the cycle...i know MANY who have - some will not - it's sad, but there aren't many schools in the country where everyone who starts there gets a degree, and most students (poor and/or african-american or otherwise) incur some level of debt

mu has a full jv staff and a full jv schedule - i believe that every one of these kids knew exactly what he was getting into when he made the commitment - i don't believe that mu will "limp them along until they quit", as you say...why else make the commitment to a jv program? to be honest, i have a bigger issue with a school bringing in 130 - 150 with a staff of 6 - 8 and a half-assed jv program that is little more than a couple of glorified scrimmages than i do with a team bringing in 224 with 16 coaches and 9 jv games - not many schools can boast a 14:1 coach:player ratio, not many schools can tell kids they'll get 9 jv games, including 4 road games

the big roster model isn't for every school, but there are some pretty darn successful d3 programs that have similar models (see mt. union, as exhibit a) - i think as long as the model is supported with staff, facilities and a legitimate jv program, why not?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 28, 2015, 08:53:37 AM
Quote from: narch on August 27, 2015, 11:05:42 PM


the big roster model isn't for every school, but there are some pretty darn successful d3 programs that have similar models (see mt. union, as exhibit a) - i think as long as the model is supported with staff, facilities and a legitimate jv program, why not?

You can quote Mt. Union all you want but they don't have a 75% dropout rate. They have 75 on their first year roster and have 45 returning sophomores. I think that number is pretty steady, whether its because they have a cut down at either level I'm not sure, but the upshot is a 40% drop rate. I know Methodist had at least 125 first years last year and they have 28 sophomores. Justify it however you want, but that's atrocious. These kids know something is up, and the most likely thing is they were recruited to play and reality is they aren't going to. Every school has some drop, of course. I'd expect less than 50% of first years play as seniors, probably closer to 25-40%. But to lose 75% in year 1? No, the only thing that explains that is everyone with a pulse interested in playing football was told to come and recruited to play. Reality then set in.

The only benefit to the school for this strategy is the admission dollars. Are first years at Methodist required to be in dorms? Pay for a meal plan? Go to the 100 level classes which are always the largest classes? All this stuff goes away as they become upperclassmen. Colleges make their most money off first years, so having a ridiculous amount of first years is a sound business strategy, even if it takes a lot of story telling to get the kids on campus. Hopefully these kids, despite dropping football, stick around to get a degree. I'm guessing schools aren't going to release that information.

Is Methodist the only school to do this? Of course not. But the only way to defend is it to know that even if these kids drop football, they stick around for a degree. Hopefully that is the case.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 28, 2015, 11:51:51 AM
Quote from: narch on August 27, 2015, 11:05:42 PM
mu has a full jv staff and a full jv schedule - i believe that every one of these kids knew exactly what he was getting into when he made the commitment

I understand Methodist's desire to have a large roster and admissions and financial aid's role in the process, but you can't tell me there isn't a single Methodist incoming freshman who saw this and thought, "oh yeah, but it won't be me. I'll be contributing on the varsity right away."
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on August 28, 2015, 12:27:04 PM
Earning a degree from most D3 school is likely to be a good thing to do.  Students recruited and admitted to a college should have a reasonable likelihood of success, which means that the college has an obligation to provide whatever support the student needs to succeed.  If the school cannot do that for a particular young person, it should not accept and admit the student.

If a school recruits and admits and enrolls many more people than it can help graduate, and takes the students' money while they flounder, get discouraged, and drop out, I think that is shameful. It is especially so if the student never really had a likelihood of success in both football and academics.

I have no specific knowledge about MU's practices in this regard.  I do know that a dropout rate for football players that is much higher than for students who were not recruited to play football is not an encouraging sign. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 28, 2015, 12:48:15 PM
Narch, buddy. Come on.

A JV football program can't be considered "successful" if there are only 25-30 sophomores on the team each year. If there were 50-60, then yes. And, in which case, every college and university in America would have a full JV program after the MU model.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 28, 2015, 02:49:54 PM
let's judge the model after more than 1 year...i know that there are more in school than are on the roster, but i don't know how many more...there is no question that even i raised an eyebrow when i saw how few sophomores were on the roster - it's disappointing, but i'm not sure there is enough data to suggest this is a trend - i also know the commitment is there from the university to see this through more than a single year to measure success (or lack of success...we'll see) - this model has been proven to work at other places...i don't know what mt. union's retention was after year 1, but i'd be willing to bet it wasn't as high as it is now

nobody wants to address the concern that i have of schools that regularly roster 130 to 150 (which is also WAY more common and still WAY more than will ever play), have 6 to 8 coaches and play a token jv schedule (if any jv games at all) - the reason nobody wants to address that is because, by and large,  it's what is happening at their school(s) - it's easier to point out what others are doing "wrong" and ignore what is happening with the team you root for - in reality, there really isn't a "need" for more than about 80 to 85 on a football roster, and that roster size would call for 6 to 8 coaches - by that math, most of the programs (if not all) in this conference are recruiting way more than they can support with their coaching staff

i have a family friend who went to another usasac school fully aware that he could potentially play some jv as a freshman, but was incredibly disappointed when he realized that this particular school had scheduled just 3 jv "games" and that the "games" were nothing more than a glorified practice against another school, even down to wearing practice gear - there were no coaches committed to the jv program, little to no travel and very little interaction between jv players and coaches during the season (those coaches were focused, rightly so, on helping the varsity win games) - during the recruiting process he was sold on the fact that he would play as a freshman, even if it was on the jv team - i mentioned what mu was doing with a full jv program to this family and the response was that they wished mu had done this back when he was in school - had this kid stayed in school, i think he would have made a fine d3 football player and likely a proud graduate - instead he moved back home, attended local public u and got a degree...all while wishing he had been given a real opportunity to play as he had been promised

pat - you are correct...i would be willing to say that virtually every player thinks they are going to make an impact on the varsity, just as every pre-med student thinks he/she will be a doctor, just as every communications major thinks they'll work for espn or cnn or d3sports.com :) - being aware of possibilities and being realistic about probabilities rarely go together with the 17 to 19 year old set - hopefully a legit jv program which allows kids to get on the field and see the possibility of actually making that impact down the road will lead to more returners - i understand it didn't happen in year 1, but that doesn't mean it can't ever happen, does it?

can't wait to see some on-field football :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 28, 2015, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: narch on August 28, 2015, 02:49:54 PM

nobody wants to address the concern that i have of schools that regularly roster 130 to 150 (which is also WAY more common and still WAY more than will ever play), have 6 to 8 coaches and play a token jv schedule (if any jv games at all) - the reason nobody wants to address that is because, by and large,  it's what is happening at their school(s) - it's easier to point out what others are doing "wrong" and ignore what is happening with the team you root for - in reality, there really isn't a "need" for more than about 80 to 85 on a football roster, and that roster size would call for 6 to 8 coaches - by that math, most of the programs (if not all) in this conference are recruiting way more than they can support with their coaching staff



pat - you are correct...i would be willing to say that virtually every player thinks they are going to make an impact on the varsity, just as every pre-med student thinks he/she will be a doctor, just as every communications major thinks they'll work for espn or cnn or d3sports.com :) - being aware of possibilities and being realistic about probabilities rarely go together with the 17 to 19 year old set - hopefully a legit jv program which allows kids to get on the field and see the possibility of actually making that impact down the road will lead to more returners - i understand it didn't happen in year 1, but that doesn't mean it can't ever happen, does it?

can't wait to see some on-field football :)

Yep to all of the above. I'm pretty happy my team falls in the minority (though I'd prefer if they were getting closer to 35 first years per year than 25). But I do think 100+ rosters, 50+ first years is all about filling school coffers and not the students. And yes, 17-19 year olds are easy to play on delusions of grandeur. Doesn't make it right.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on August 28, 2015, 04:54:45 PM
It is hard to know what exactly recruits are told from school to school about what the deal is, so it is hard to evaluate the relative complicity with getting the schools' enrollment goals by recruiting more potential ball players and students than the schools can responsibly support.  The number of coaches per player is one issue but it is not the same issue as is the amount of academic support given to the student athletes.  Doing college at some colleges and universities is way harder than doing high school, never mind the requirements of participating in football. 

Most USASouth schools are heavily dependent on enrollment for cash flow and in my opinion way too many of them use football to generate income. I do not have a better idea.  Does anyone know if the richer D3 schools, presumably less tied to tuition for survival, are equally committed to having too many prospective football players in school?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 28, 2015, 07:31:43 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on August 28, 2015, 04:54:45 PM
Does anyone know if the richer D3 schools, presumably less tied to tuition for survival, are equally committed to having too many prospective football players in school?

Simply put, they generally don't. NESCAC schools have roster limits but generally have 80 or so in camp. Swarthmore simply dropped football. W&L's team has not broken 90 players in my memory. JHU usually has about 90. Carnegie Mellon generally has over 100, so they tend to the high side, MIT has less than 90. Chicago has around 100. Emory doesn't play football. Wash U has a bit over 100, so again on the high side. But CMU, Chicago, and Wash U are all pretty large schools. NYU doesn't play football. Pomona has around 70. Rochester has around 90. Grinnell has only 35 according to our beloved source in camp. I think that covers the bulk of the D3 schools in the top 50 endowments. In these cases they don't need to drive enrollment through football, but even more important, it's simply hard to get that many kids in the door. The standards are really high at these schools, so just cornering the market on 30-40 DIII capable football players with the academics to get in is generally a task in itself.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on August 28, 2015, 08:44:44 PM
Quote from: jknezek on August 28, 2015, 07:31:43 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on August 28, 2015, 04:54:45 PM
Does anyone know if the richer D3 schools, presumably less tied to tuition for survival, are equally committed to having too many prospective football players in school?

Simply put, they generally don't. NESCAC schools have roster limits but generally have 80 or so in camp. Swarthmore simply dropped football. W&L's team has not broken 90 players in my memory. JHU usually has about 90. Carnegie Mellon generally has over 100, so they tend to the high side, MIT has less than 90. Chicago has around 100. Emory doesn't play football. Wash U has a bit over 100, so again on the high side. But CMU, Chicago, and Wash U are all pretty large schools. NYU doesn't play football. Pomona has around 70. Rochester has around 90. Grinnell has only 35 according to our beloved source in camp. I think that covers the bulk of the D3 schools in the top 50 endowments. In these cases they don't need to drive enrollment through football, but even more important, it's simply hard to get that many kids in the door. The standards are really high at these schools, so just cornering the market on 30-40 DIII capable football players with the academics to get in is generally a task in itself.

Neither Wheaton or Illinois Wesleyan (the 'rich' schools by CCIW standards, though paupers by U of Chicago standards ;)) use athletics to drive enrollment.  Can't speak to other CCIW schools, but probably not judging by freshman class sizes.  I don't think either has an active JV program in football, though at least IWU definitely does in basketball - not because of over-recruiting, but as genuine development.  The classic case was d3hoops all-decade selection Keelan Amelianovich, who (stuck behind some talented seniors) was JV as a freshman, CCIW MOP as a sophomore!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 29, 2015, 12:59:57 AM
You guys are kind of talking out of your butt over here and I see Ypsi is again dragging out that old chestnut about Keelan Amelianovich, who, by the way, did not play football.

In Kickoff we list the number of players who report to camp each year for each team. The average has steadily risen over the decade we have been tracking this and is now 112 players. Five schools had 190 or more players report this year and 29 schools had 150 or more.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 29, 2015, 05:51:43 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 29, 2015, 12:59:57 AM
You guys are kind of talking out of your butt over here and I see Ypsi is again dragging out that old chestnut about Keelan Amelianovich, who, by the way, did not play football.

In Kickoff we list the number of players who report to camp each year for each team. The average has steadily risen over the decade we have been tracking this and is now 112 players. Five schools had 190 or more players report this year and 29 schools had 150 or more.

Actually I think this proves my point. Of schools with top 50 size endowments, only Carnegie Mellon and maybe Wash U had more than your listed average in camp and none fell in your two outlier areas. Several had closer to half your average than the number.  Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that the schools with these huge numbers are those more dependent on tuition and therefore taking an "every breathing body" approach to football. Which, as I suspect is your point, is something growing more common as many of the D3 schools fight and claw for enrollment.

I will also.say that as we are fond of telling people in the public/private debate, D3 football teams aren't made up of student body walk ons. They are made of recruits. So these schools with mega camps aren't just because everyone loves football at those schools, it's because the coaches hustled to get them on campus. Now that begs the question are the coaches such garbage talent evaluators that they have to recruit that many to ensure a few good ones, are they that good of recruiters that they can pull 100+ D3 quality football players as freshman, or the simplest solution, they are told to recruit everyone and anyone because the school needs admission dollars?  I'll stick with Occam's Razor...

Either way it doesn't look good. You shouldn't need 125 freshman to have 20 seniors that can play. There shouldn't be a 75% drop rate in year one. Schools shouldn't be taking every warm body to keep the lights on, and athletics shouldn't be enabling it and driving it. But when you have more college seats than qualified attendees it is something of a desperate race to fill those seats. Here's hoping the kids that get sold a bill of athletic dreams stick around to get a diploma payoff.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 29, 2015, 11:20:20 AM
No, that's good -- I just wasn't sure we were using the stats that were conveniently available.

Twenty-five schools in Division III, right about 10%, started camp with 75 or fewer. (Unfortunately, some started with far fewer.)
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Post by: scottiedoug on August 29, 2015, 12:10:39 PM
As jknezek aptly put it:

"Either way it doesn't look good. You shouldn't need 125 freshman to have 20 seniors that can play. There shouldn't be a 75% drop rate in year one. Schools shouldn't be taking every warm body to keep the lights on, and athletics shouldn't be enabling it and driving it. But when you have more college seats than qualified attendees it is something of a desperate race to fill those seats. Here's hoping the kids that get sold a bill of athletic dreams stick around to get a diploma payoff."

There are other implications of this practice, not all of them positive.  Team identity and/or peer/coach pressure often leads to there being a quite large group of young men who are more likely to hang with each other than to develop other identities and affiliations. Not necessarily bad, but there are other people and organizations you miss out on if you live in a bubble with strong internal identity.   Most of these schools are liberal arts institutions supposedly run so as to broaden people's perspectives and experiences.  A 1400 student  liberal arts college with a football team of 120 people is likely to have a quite different student culture from a similar sized school with no football or 70 players.

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 29, 2015, 01:03:18 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 29, 2015, 11:20:20 AM
No, that's good -- I just wasn't sure we were using the stats that were conveniently available.

Twenty-five schools in Division III, right about 10%, started camp with 75 or fewer. (Unfortunately, some started with far fewer.)

That's where the stats came from and why I didn't give exact numbers. They want exact they can she'll out a few bucks and get way more than camp numbers. Buy Kickoff people. It's a great read.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 29, 2015, 04:28:11 PM
Narch. please check your personal messages.  Thanks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on August 31, 2015, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 29, 2015, 04:28:11 PM
Narch. please check your personal messages.  Thanks
ralph - sorry i didn't get back to you...while i appreciate the offer, i don't feel qualified to be a member of the fan poll as my consumption of d3 football consists of the teams that are on the Monarchs home slate (if i can make all of the games) and what i read online and in box scores - i'm sure there are others who get to see much more d3 football in person than i, and are thus much more qualified to rank teams in the region...besides, i would have mu as the top team each week :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 31, 2015, 12:19:41 PM
narch, will you be at the GCQ game in Fayetteville on the 12th?  If so, I'd like the opportunity to say hello again. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 05, 2015, 08:47:55 PM
Excellent effort from the Hawks against Louisiana College today. The offense was in mid-season form from the beginning and the defense made many good plays to get off the field. There were a couple of breakdowns to give up big plays but that tends to happen with the speed LC has at receiver and a good QB. We were mostly able to keep good pressure on the QB to limit his effectiveness over all.
Probably the best thing from the game was that with the heat we were subbing pretty liberally from early in the game and the backups performed well for the most part. That will help with developing depth as the season goes on. 4 different running backs had carries in the first quarter and all looked good. That was helped by the O-line pretty much dominating the line of scrimmage.
If we can get this effort from week to week and take it one game at a time we could be a tough team to beat.
On to Birmingham-Southern next week. Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 05, 2015, 09:38:01 PM
MC over Berry big today 43-17. Shoulda coulda woulda been worse if MC took care of the ball, but I'm sure Hayes and Co. are pleased.
I was surprised it wasn't more of a game since Berry had a roster full of juniors with 2 seasons of experience. On to East Tennessee State.
Other than MC and Huntingdon, USAC is looking poor. Methodist shut out Apprentice 18-0...thought it would be a larger margin of victory.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots Dad 92 on September 07, 2015, 01:02:21 PM
MC did seem to sputter out in the second half but I think Berry made some nice adjustments. The touchdown Berry got in the second half was purely a blown coverage. Other than that Berry had no answer for MC defense.  It was over all a great experiences to attend my first MC football game as a parent and a fan. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 07, 2015, 07:07:07 PM
The next 2 weeks will show what kind of team MC has. Yes, ETSU is a first year team, but they've had 2 years of practice and a little thing called scholarships. E&H the next week will be a very, very tough game. I did notice in the box score of their game with Ferrum, FC turned the ball over 6 times. That makes the 55-7 score a little less shocking.
Overall, the USAC is down more than expect with the departure of CNU. MC and Huntingdon are clearly the front runners.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 08, 2015, 05:31:14 PM
Scots
I'd say MC- Huntingdon- Murrvul all in the same boat right now

keep the faith & Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 08, 2015, 09:00:43 PM
DGP,
Saw the boy at the game Saturday. He said you and the missus were at the beach. Hope you had a good anniversary trip and that you make it over to see the Hawks at some point this season.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots Dad 92 on September 09, 2015, 12:28:16 PM
Watched the East Tennessee game last night. They have some big boys but doesn't seem that they put it all togeather yet and play as a unit. I think MC has a great shot at beating them. Only thing that worries me is Rader knowing MC tendencies tendencies.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 09, 2015, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: Scots Dad 92 on September 09, 2015, 12:28:16 PM
Watched the East Tennessee game last night. They have some big boys but doesn't seem that they put it all togeather yet and play as a unit. I think MC has a great shot at beating them. Only thing that worries me is Rader knowing MC tendencies tendencies.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. They have a week to get ready for MC and I don't think Rader and Brummett can coach all the tendencies in that time. Remember, we're talking about a bunch of freshmen and redshirt freshmen. FCS or not, they are still pups learning the college game. Can they beat MC on athleticism alone? They probably could. That's why ETSU threw money their way. But is that likely? Probably not. ETSU has the athletes, but do the athletes have the mental side of the game where they know how to study an opponent and know how he plays? I can't answer that. We'll have to see tomorrow night.

At any rate, I hope ETSU thinks they can walk the dog on MC. If they do, MC is going to embarrass them.

I don't know who will win, but I think it's a 6-10 point game either way.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 09, 2015, 01:28:51 PM
Wesley played UNC-Charlotte their first year playing competitive football and eeked out a win. Last year, year two, they had a very competitive loss. This year UNCC opened with a win versus FBS (although no one knows why) Georgia State. I wouldn't be real enthused about Maryville's or E&H's chances but I also know nothing about ETSU.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 09, 2015, 01:41:59 PM
ETSU literally had to schedule MC, E&H, College of Faith, etc. to keep from going 0-10. Kennesaw State also played their very first game (last week against ETSU winning 56-13) and are playing a full SoCon schedule.
They (KSU) recruited a FCS team of freshmen and got a lot of good transfers. ETSU is lacking.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we won by 2 scores or lost by 2 scores (or more). This is miles different when we played Tennessee Tech a few years ago knowing we would not win. We lost that game 56-7. A week after TTU played Iowa. TTU also went on to win the OVC. (They didn't call the dogs off until late in the game as I recall. Went for it several times on 4th down, had a Hail Mary score at the end of the 1st half, had a receiver fumble, kick the ball in the end zone and recovered by another receiver. Moral of the story- they didn't play the JV team.)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 09, 2015, 01:45:02 PM
I hear you. For me, it's just a lost game. I get the paycheck and I hope both schools put it to good use.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 09, 2015, 01:53:16 PM
Speaking of paychecks...do you hear Florida paid NM State a cool million for the game last week?
A MILLION DOLLARS. $1,000,000
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 09, 2015, 02:10:39 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 09, 2015, 01:53:16 PM
Speaking of paychecks...do you hear Florida paid NM State a cool million for the game last week?
A MILLION DOLLARS. $1,000,000

Michigan paid App State that last year. Nebraska paid FAU the same last year. A little ridiculous, but the best is the $975K Florida paid Idaho last year for a game that was cancelled by lightning.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 09, 2015, 02:21:51 PM
And TTU and ETSU (probably) are paying MC and E&H $25k for the game. $25k at our level is nothing to laugh at, but comparing budgets is always fun.
By the way, ETSU is playing Tennessee in 2018. Can't wait to see the digits on that check.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 09, 2015, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 09, 2015, 01:28:51 PM
Wesley played UNC-Charlotte their first year playing competitive football and eeked out a win. Last year, year two, they had a very competitive loss. This year UNCC opened with a win versus FBS (although no one knows why) Georgia State. I wouldn't be real enthused about Maryville's or E&H's chances but I also know nothing about ETSU.
A D-3 McMurry beat UTSan Antonio in the Alamodome in its inaugural game in 2011.
A D-3 re-classifying McMurry beat Houston Baptist in its inaugural game in 2014.

21-year-old players who have been working as a team for 2- 3 years definitely have an advantage over more "talented" 18-year old playing their first college game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 09, 2015, 02:23:44 PM
LSU fans are clamoring over the $550K paycheck that McNeese State got for the lightning  "no-show" game last weekend..  They wanted the game played anyway, the next day, wherever.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 09, 2015, 02:37:45 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 09, 2015, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 09, 2015, 01:28:51 PM
Wesley played UNC-Charlotte their first year playing competitive football and eeked out a win. Last year, year two, they had a very competitive loss. This year UNCC opened with a win versus FBS (although no one knows why) Georgia State. I wouldn't be real enthused about Maryville's or E&H's chances but I also know nothing about ETSU.
A D-3 McMurry beat UTSan Antonio in the Alamodome in its inaugural game in 2011.
A D-3 re-classifying McMurry beat Houston Baptist in its inaugural game in 2014.

21-year-old players who have been working as a team for 2- 3 years definitely have an advantage over more "talented" 18-year old playing their first college game.

True. But, it'll be their second.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots Dad 92 on September 09, 2015, 02:56:44 PM
I think another interesting aspect of the game is I know that MC recruits the the kids that are being sought after by the FCS scools and some D1 programs but got past over due to a senior year injury such as my son. There are quite a few of them on the MC squad.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 09, 2015, 07:20:45 PM
I'm interested to see what ETSU does to Tusculum and Carson-Newman in recruiting for the next few years. They are D2 schools in East Tennessee that I feel would have had a chance for some of the players at ETSU over the last 2 classes.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GillCJ1 on September 09, 2015, 10:01:49 PM
I'll be watching the stream tomorrow night.  Happy to cheer on a fellow D3 program.  Go Scots
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots Dad 92 on September 10, 2015, 12:18:24 AM
Go CRU! One of the freshman players for MHB, Jaron Dykstra came from La Porte HS and played with my son who is a freshman at MC.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GillCJ1 on September 10, 2015, 08:16:00 AM
Quote from: Scots Dad 92 on September 10, 2015, 12:18:24 AM
Go CRU! One of the freshman players for MHB, Jaron Dykstra came from La Porte HS and played with my son who is a freshman at MC.

Heh, small world sometimes!  I'll remember that name.   :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 10, 2015, 09:32:21 AM
Today is a wash for me (at least at the office).
We (my JV team) have a game at 6, MC/ETSU at 7:30, and they're calling for storms all day. Only thing I can think about it football and squeezing in our game before the storms come.
I can't insurance today. Not happening.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 10, 2015, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 10, 2015, 09:32:21 AM
Today is a wash for me (at least at the office).
We (my JV team) have a game at 6, MC/ETSU at 7:30, and they're calling for storms all day. Only thing I can think about it football and squeezing in our game before the storms come.
I can't insurance today. Not happening.

I wonder if I'll be able to watch the game tonight? Do FCS schools stream games?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 10, 2015, 09:55:57 AM
Anyone planning on going to Huntingdon at BSC this weekend? Since it's a night game I can't drag the family over there, but since it looks like the weather might be great I might try and sneak out of the house. Any of my Huntingdon friends driving up?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots Dad 92 on September 10, 2015, 10:04:20 AM
http://www.socondigitalnetwork.com/etsu/game/maryville-college2065-at-etsu-on-09102015
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 10, 2015, 10:08:19 AM
Quote from: Scots Dad 92 on September 10, 2015, 10:04:20 AM
http://www.socondigitalnetwork.com/etsu/game/maryville-college2065-at-etsu-on-09102015

thanks.  +K
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 10, 2015, 10:48:14 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 10, 2015, 10:08:19 AM
Quote from: Scots Dad 92 on September 10, 2015, 10:04:20 AM
http://www.socondigitalnetwork.com/etsu/game/maryville-college2065-at-etsu-on-09102015

thanks.  +K

I watched their first game and the announcers read on air texts, tweets, and facebook posts from people who were watching the game. "Bob from Knoxville is watching the Bucs tonight" kind of thing.
It would be awesome if D3 guys watching the stream tweeted/facebooked in a little D3 love.

I can hear it now... "JK from Alabama is watching in support of a D3 team playing up 2 divisions." ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 10, 2015, 10:53:41 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 10, 2015, 10:48:14 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 10, 2015, 10:08:19 AM
Quote from: Scots Dad 92 on September 10, 2015, 10:04:20 AM
http://www.socondigitalnetwork.com/etsu/game/maryville-college2065-at-etsu-on-09102015

thanks.  +K

I watched their first game and the announcers read on air texts, tweets, and facebook posts from people who were watching the game. "Bob from Knoxville is watching the Bucs tonight" kind of thing.
It would be awesome if D3 guys watching the stream tweeted/facebooked in a little D3 love.

I can hear it now... "JK from Alabama is watching in support of a D3 team playing up 2 divisions." ;D

Sorry. I'm not a twit. I mean I don't tweet, although I equate those two things. And my Facebook does not need random spam from ETSU cluttering it up until I figure out how to get rid of it after the game!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 10, 2015, 10:57:41 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 10, 2015, 10:53:41 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 10, 2015, 10:48:14 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 10, 2015, 10:08:19 AM
Quote from: Scots Dad 92 on September 10, 2015, 10:04:20 AM
http://www.socondigitalnetwork.com/etsu/game/maryville-college2065-at-etsu-on-09102015

thanks.  +K

I watched their first game and the announcers read on air texts, tweets, and facebook posts from people who were watching the game. "Bob from Knoxville is watching the Bucs tonight" kind of thing.
It would be awesome if D3 guys watching the stream tweeted/facebooked in a little D3 love.

I can hear it now... "JK from Alabama is watching in support of a D3 team playing up 2 divisions." ;D

Sorry. I'm not a twit. I mean I don't tweet, although I equate those two things. And my Facebook does not need random spam from ETSU cluttering it up until I figure out how to get rid of it after the game!

Fair enough.  ::)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 10, 2015, 03:31:04 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 10, 2015, 09:55:57 AM
Anyone planning on going to Huntingdon at BSC this weekend? Since it's a night game I can't drag the family over there, but since it looks like the weather might be great I might try and sneak out of the house. Any of my Huntingdon friends driving up?

Still planning to be there, JK. That weather does look like some awesome fall like football weather, might even be a little chilly toward the end after the sun goes down. Bringing the grill and some chicken wings if want some early supper. Look for a red canopy with white trim.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 10, 2015, 03:38:26 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 10, 2015, 03:31:04 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 10, 2015, 09:55:57 AM
Anyone planning on going to Huntingdon at BSC this weekend? Since it's a night game I can't drag the family over there, but since it looks like the weather might be great I might try and sneak out of the house. Any of my Huntingdon friends driving up?

Still planning to be there, JK. That weather does look like some awesome fall like football weather, might even be a little chilly toward the end after the sun goes down. Bringing the grill and some chicken wings if want some early supper. Look for a red canopy with white trim.

Go Hawks!

Excellent. I will try and guilt my wife into letting me have a night out while she watches the kids!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 10, 2015, 09:00:21 PM
Just got home...halftime MC 21, ETSU 21. LET'S GO SCOTS!!!!!!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 10, 2015, 10:25:00 PM
Maryville College 28
East Tenn State  21
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on September 10, 2015, 10:28:09 PM
Alright!!

Saw first half, sort of. ETSU looked like they had figured out how to move the ball.  What happened?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 10, 2015, 10:28:46 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 10, 2015, 10:25:00 PM
Maryville College 28
East Tenn State  21

Nice win for the Scots. Sadly I was at my kids preschool open house. Funny how life gets in the way of football.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 10, 2015, 10:45:40 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on September 10, 2015, 10:28:09 PM
Alright!!

Saw first half, sort of. ETSU looked like they had figured out how to move the ball.  What happened?

We know how to WIN!!!
I might have to call the office tomorrow and let then know either I'm not coming in, or I'll still be drunk.  8-)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 10, 2015, 11:04:30 PM
Congratulations Murrvul!  Great win!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GillCJ1 on September 11, 2015, 08:16:37 AM
I watched the stream.  Great win, Scots!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 11, 2015, 08:49:43 AM
Still not a huge fan of playing that game, but it certainly could be the kind of confidence boosting win that affects the rest of the season. Nice job Scots!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 11, 2015, 09:08:05 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 11, 2015, 08:49:43 AM
Still not a huge fan of playing that game, but it certainly could be the kind of confidence boosting win that affects the rest of the season. Nice job Scots!

I call and raise you a $25,000 game check.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 11, 2015, 09:12:15 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 11, 2015, 09:08:05 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 11, 2015, 08:49:43 AM
Still not a huge fan of playing that game, but it certainly could be the kind of confidence boosting win that affects the rest of the season. Nice job Scots!

I call and raise you a $25,000 game check.

There is indeed that and I would absolutely fold.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 11, 2015, 07:51:44 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 11, 2015, 08:49:43 AM
Still not a huge fan of playing that game, but it certainly could be the kind of confidence boosting win that affects the rest of the season. Nice job Scots!

Why not jknezek?  As I'm sure you recall, we've had many discussions about this in the past on the various boards.  I guess I am of the opposite opinion of you.   While I do understand the reasons for arguments against it, IMO, there many positives.   I believe it is a great experience for the players and often, helps improve one's program if a coach chooses to do so (I can't believe it wouldn't do so in this case since the Maryville won ;).  All that said, obviously, in future years ETSU will pummel DIII teams once they get to the level they expect in FCS in reinstating the program.  Anyway, as you said, nice job and a great win and confidence booster for Maryville (and a "bummer" for ETSU).

BTW, great  attendance for the game! I'm sure that was a neat atmosphere. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots Dad 92 on September 11, 2015, 08:43:33 PM
It was a neat atmosphere. Kind of strange I thaught that the fact that the visitor side filled up with home fans before the game started. But the Maryville player knew exactly where there fans were and fed off of there small gruop of fans when they needed it.


Been to two games in TN and still don't get why players are not on the field for the Natinal Anthem??

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: formerd3db on September 11, 2015, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: Scots Dad 92 on September 11, 2015, 08:43:33 PM
It was a neat atmosphere. Kind of strange I thaught that the fact that the visitor side filled up with home fans before the game started. But the Maryville player knew exactly where there fans were and fed off of there small gruop of fans when they needed it.


Been to two games in TN and still don't get why players are not on the field for the Natinal Anthem??

Very neat, for sure. 

And yes, I agree that is not great regarding team not being present for the National Anthem.  That should be done, no question, IMO.  Anyway, again, congrats to your Maryville. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 11, 2015, 11:05:50 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 10, 2015, 10:25:00 PM
Maryville College 28
East Tenn State  21
Super!  I checked the score last night ... big win for the Scots!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on September 12, 2015, 11:45:19 AM
Why is it that the National Anthem is played anyway?  Nobody plays it before history class begins.  The connection between nationalism and athletics is what?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 12, 2015, 11:57:33 AM
Quote from: scottiedoug on September 12, 2015, 11:45:19 AM
Why is it that the National Anthem is played anyway?  Nobody plays it before history class begins.  The connection between nationalism and athletics is what?
Same reason kids recite (or at least used to recite) the Pledge of Allegiance  at school every morning. Is 3 minutes prior to kickoff a hassle?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 12, 2015, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on September 12, 2015, 11:45:19 AM
Why is it that the National Anthem is played anyway?  Nobody plays it before history class begins.  The connection between nationalism and athletics is what?
It began in earnest in World War II. You can google the question and find historical tidbits.

http://briancain.com/blog/the-history-of-the-national-anthem-at-sporting-games.html
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 12, 2015, 02:09:10 PM
Since MC has today off I'm flipping between the Guilford/Methodist and Ferrum/Shenandoah games. First (and really the only) thought is FC and MU both aren't very good on offense.
MC has E&H next week. If they get past the Wasps I think MC is rolling the rest of the way to the Huntingdon game near the end of the season.

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 12, 2015, 02:41:58 PM
Quakers over Methodist 41-7 at the half in Fayetteville.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots Dad 92 on September 12, 2015, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 12, 2015, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on September 12, 2015, 11:45:19 AM
Why is it that the National Anthem is played anyway?  Nobody plays it before history class begins.  The connection between nationalism and athletics is what?
It began in earnest in World War II. You can google the question and find historical tidbits.

http://briancain.com/blog/the-history-of-the-national-anthem-at-sporting-games.html

Thanks for sharing the History.. I know here in Texas at every level of sports the teams come on to the field and line up before the playing of the national anthem.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 12, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2015, 02:41:58 PM
Quakers over Methodist 41-7 at the half in Fayetteville.
Final 55-7.   Liberal substitution in 2nd.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 12, 2015, 04:16:38 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2015, 02:41:58 PM
Quakers over Methodist 41-7 at the half in Fayetteville.
Final 55-7.   Liberal substitution in 2nd.

I knew something was up with last week's MU score. They aren't that good without Saint Max. And Guilford's skill guys are legit.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 12, 2015, 08:04:59 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 12, 2015, 04:16:38 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2015, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2015, 02:41:58 PM
Quakers over Methodist 41-7 at the half in Fayetteville.
Final 55-7.   Liberal substitution in 2nd.

I knew something was up with last week's MU score. They aren't that good without Saint Max. And Guilford's skill guys are legit.
If you look at the box score, Methodist's only score was a 93-yard kickoff return.  A couple of other 20+ yard returns and all the guy got the rest of the game were low kicks on the ground.  Guilford set the tone early, scoring on their second possession, successfully going for two and then recovering a perfect onside kick.  GC had 620 yards offense and had possession over 40 minutes.  I think MU had about 200 yards passing, but -8 on the ground.  It was never in doubt after the first quarter. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 12, 2015, 08:19:11 PM
guilford could have scored 80 today...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 12, 2015, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: narch on September 12, 2015, 08:19:11 PM
guilford could have scored 80 today...
Not sure about 80, but the Quakers were clicking ... 2nd and 3rd teams were in almost all the second half.  I was impressed with MU's kickoff returns, but the Monarchs are obviously still looking for an identity at QB.  Little bit of rain in the 2nd Quarter and overcast, so much less hot than other trips I've made to Methodist.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 12, 2015, 10:13:18 PM
LaGrange loses in OT to Berry 16-13 and Huntingdon loses to Birmingham Southern 35-34.
Ferrum, NCWC, Averett, Greensboro also share space in the Loss Column. (And well-documented Methodist)

Tough week for the USAC. Maryville is only winners and they played D1-FCS ETSU. We'll have to see if that game is 'impressive' after 2 weeks when E&H plays the Bucs.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 12, 2015, 10:40:22 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2015, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: narch on September 12, 2015, 08:19:11 PM
guilford could have scored 80 today...
Not sure about 80, but the Quakers were clicking ... 2nd and 3rd teams were in almost all the second half.  I was impressed with MU's kickoff returns, but the Monarchs are obviously still looking for an identity at QB.  Little bit of rain in the 2nd Quarter and overcast, so much less hot than other trips I've made to Methodist.
not to bicker, but i was watching late in the 3rd and 15, 18, 27, 25 and 10 (all starters) were still playing...i think the statement that 2nd and 3rd teams were in almost all the second half is a bit overstated...guilford dominated in every way, but let's not pretend that it was the 2nd and 3rd teamers dominating :)

before the season, i would not have thought the monarchs would be searching for an identity at qb with jordan vann - i'm a little perplexed by the fact that he has not started the first two games, but i trust the coaches know better than i do what the team needs
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 12, 2015, 10:50:43 PM
Huntingdon choked that game away. Two kickoff returns for TDS by BSC, a Hawks missed field goal, turnovers. Going for two at the end and a ludicrous number of 15 yard penalties. Huntingdon looked poorly disciplined. Not even sure what to say about that game except sloppy. That being said, I love going to games at BSC, a great place to see a game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 12, 2015, 11:00:16 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 12, 2015, 10:50:43 PM
Huntingdon choked that game away. Two kickoff returns for TDS by BSC, a Hawks missed field goal, turnovers. Going for two at the end and a ludicrous number of 15 yard penalties. Huntingdon looked poorly disciplined. Not even sure what to say about that game except sloppy. That being said, I love going to games at BSC, a great place to see a game.

Watching the game online, I agree 100%.

BSC beat LaGrange by 1. LaGrange lost to Berry by 3. Berry lost to Maryille by 26.
Huntingdon beat Louisiana by 21. Louisiana plays TLU next week, so we'll see how that goes.
And from what I heard, MC handled BSC in the preseason scrimmage pretty well.
Real head scratcher kind of 2 weeks to start a season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 13, 2015, 01:13:06 AM
It started the second play of the game with a BS targeting call that took one of our best linebackers out of the game. They didn't call a pass interference the whole night until the one at the end that was waved off on a tipped ball. There were at least five that should have been called. Then the late hit on our receiver in the 4th that wasn't called. The field judge standing 5 yards away looking right at it should never call a game again. The whole group of officials should give back their paychecks for this game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 13, 2015, 08:26:32 AM
Quote from: narch on September 12, 2015, 10:40:22 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 12, 2015, 09:45:12 PM
Quote from: narch on September 12, 2015, 08:19:11 PM
guilford could have scored 80 today...
Not sure about 80, but the Quakers were clicking ... 2nd and 3rd teams were in almost all the second half.  I was impressed with MU's kickoff returns, but the Monarchs are obviously still looking for an identity at QB.  Little bit of rain in the 2nd Quarter and overcast, so much less hot than other trips I've made to Methodist.
not to bicker, but i was watching late in the 3rd and 15, 18, 27, 25 and 10 (all starters) were still playing...i think the statement that 2nd and 3rd teams were in almost all the second half is a bit overstated...guilford dominated in every way, but let's not pretend that it was the 2nd and 3rd teamers dominating :)

before the season, i would not have thought the monarchs would be searching for an identity at qb with jordan vann - i'm a little perplexed by the fact that he has not started the first two games, but i trust the coaches know better than i do what the team needs
I didn't note the exact time ... guess I'll have to keep an exact log on my program.  :)  Best of luck to the Monarchs the rest of the season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 13, 2015, 11:33:18 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 13, 2015, 01:13:06 AM
It started the second play of the game with a BS targeting call that took one of our best linebackers out of the game. They didn't call a pass interference the whole night until the one at the end that was waved off on a tipped ball. There were at least five that should have been called. Then the late hit on our receiver in the 4th that wasn't called. The field judge standing 5 yards away looking right at it should never call a game again. The whole group of officials should give back their paychecks for this game.

Yeah. Refs weren't great. On the last two meaningful snaps of the game they missed penalties against both teams. What should have been the TD that forced overtime featured the receiver shoving off. It was massive. Full arms extended and the DB crashing to the ground 2 yards away as the ball arrived. The back judge missing that was unbelievable. Watching on the hill overlooking the endzone even the Huntingdon folks near me couldn't believe the WR got away with it. That TD never should have counted.

But the refs giveth and they taketh away. On the failed 2 point conversion that followed, the defender smothered the receiver well before the ball arrived and that should have been pass interference. It was also incredibly obvious and even the BSC folks on the other side were chuckling about a make up call. Either way, when teams rack up 9 or 10 personal fouls between them in one game, something is wrong.

The refs were poor, the Hawks were poor, why did they kick to #8 again? He was killing on returns and the Hawks just kept going to his side. Could the kicker not kick to the other side of the field? In the end, BSC did enough to win and Huntingdon helped them the whole game long. The two kick returns and then on two other TD drives they were kept alive with 15 yard penalties. That's ridiculous. Especially the one that negated the 15 yard sack where the QB slipped deep in the back field and the D-lineman decided 3 steps later to jump on top of him. That would have brought up 4th and forever and instead it was an automatic first down. That kid should run laps for an hour for that boneheaded mistake that led to a TD.

Coach Turk is going to be very unhappy when he watches that game film.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 14, 2015, 09:27:54 AM
Three notes for ODAC and USASAC fans:

1.  Guilford football ranked (at #25) for the first time (to my knowledge) in school history.
2.  In related news, Hell freezes over at noon today.
3.  Any Averett fans making the trip to Greensboro on Saturday?  ... if so, make sure you say hello.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 14, 2015, 09:31:59 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 14, 2015, 09:27:54 AM
Three notes for ODAC and USASAC fans:

1.  Guilford football ranked (at #25) for the first time (to my knowledge) in school history.
2.  In related news, Hell freezes over at noon today.
3.  Any Averett fans making the trip to Greensboro on Saturday?  ... if so, make sure you say hello.

+k for making me laugh on a cool Monday morning with no coffee at the office.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 14, 2015, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 14, 2015, 09:31:59 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 14, 2015, 09:27:54 AM
Three notes for ODAC and USASAC fans:

1.  Guilford football ranked (at #25) for the first time (to my knowledge) in school history.
2.  In related news, Hell freezes over at noon today.
3.  Any Averett fans making the trip to Greensboro on Saturday?  ... if so, make sure you say hello.

+k for making me laugh on a cool Monday morning with no coffee at the office.
Thanks, Scots13.  As proud as I am of the Quakers, I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime ... but really glad I have.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on September 14, 2015, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 14, 2015, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 14, 2015, 09:31:59 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 14, 2015, 09:27:54 AM
Three notes for ODAC and USASAC fans:

1.  Guilford football ranked (at #25) for the first time (to my knowledge) in school history.
2.  In related news, Hell freezes over at noon today.
3.  Any Averett fans making the trip to Greensboro on Saturday?  ... if so, make sure you say hello.

+k for making me laugh on a cool Monday morning with no coffee at the office.
Thanks, Scots13.  As proud as I am of the Quakers, I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime ... but really glad I have.

   It's well-deserved hasa. Coach R has been doing a good steady job of improving the recruiting and is finally seeing the fruits of his (and his staff's) labors.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 14, 2015, 02:36:30 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on September 14, 2015, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 14, 2015, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 14, 2015, 09:31:59 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 14, 2015, 09:27:54 AM
Three notes for ODAC and USASAC fans:

1.  Guilford football ranked (at #25) for the first time (to my knowledge) in school history.
2.  In related news, Hell freezes over at noon today.
3.  Any Averett fans making the trip to Greensboro on Saturday?  ... if so, make sure you say hello.

+k for making me laugh on a cool Monday morning with no coffee at the office.
Thanks, Scots13.  As proud as I am of the Quakers, I never thought I'd see it in my lifetime ... but really glad I have.

   It's well-deserved hasa. Coach R has been doing a good steady job of improving the recruiting and is finally seeing the fruits of his (and his staff's) labors.
Thanks, HSCTiger 74.  Coach Rusiewicz and his staff have done a remarkable job ... but this group of players is motivated.  They came to camp determined and worked hard in the offseason.   The leadership of the upper classmen is showing. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 14, 2015, 02:59:14 PM
Let's hope Guilford underclassmen have the wherewithal to continue the trend in years to come.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 14, 2015, 05:41:30 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 13, 2015, 11:33:18 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 13, 2015, 01:13:06 AM
It started the second play of the game with a BS targeting call that took one of our best linebackers out of the game. They didn't call a pass interference the whole night until the one at the end that was waved off on a tipped ball. There were at least five that should have been called. Then the late hit on our receiver in the 4th that wasn't called. The field judge standing 5 yards away looking right at it should never call a game again. The whole group of officials should give back their paychecks for this game.

Yeah. Refs weren't great. On the last two meaningful snaps of the game they missed penalties against both teams. What should have been the TD that forced overtime featured the receiver shoving off. It was massive. Full arms extended and the DB crashing to the ground 2 yards away as the ball arrived. The back judge missing that was unbelievable. Watching on the hill overlooking the endzone even the Huntingdon folks near me couldn't believe the WR got away with it. That TD never should have counted.

But the refs giveth and they taketh away. On the failed 2 point conversion that followed, the defender smothered the receiver well before the ball arrived and that should have been pass interference. It was also incredibly obvious and even the BSC folks on the other side were chuckling about a make up call. Either way, when teams rack up 9 or 10 personal fouls between them in one game, something is wrong.

The refs were poor, the Hawks were poor, why did they kick to #8 again? He was killing on returns and the Hawks just kept going to his side. Could the kicker not kick to the other side of the field? In the end, BSC did enough to win and Huntingdon helped them the whole game long. The two kick returns and then on two other TD drives they were kept alive with 15 yard penalties. That's ridiculous. Especially the one that negated the 15 yard sack where the QB slipped deep in the back field and the D-lineman decided 3 steps later to jump on top of him. That would have brought up 4th and forever and instead it was an automatic first down. That kid should run laps for an hour for that boneheaded mistake that led to a TD.

Coach Turk is going to be very unhappy when he watches that game film.
Yeah, we pretty much always try to kick it to that left side I guess to kind of hem them in that corner but it looks like they may have found a hole in our left side coverage there. With the open date this week we have two weeks to fix that.
I didn't really agree with going for two either. With the TD's on the kickoff returns their defense had been the field for most of the 4th quarter and I thought were tiring. I think we beat them in OT. I didn't see what happened on the two-point conversion as I had a tree blocking my view of the back of the endzone. I kind of lost it and blew up at the official on the no-call on the late hit on our receiver and put myself in time-out and watched the rest of the game from the hill next to my truck. With the school president sitting two rows in front of me when it happened I'm kind of wondering if I'm going to get some kind of reprimand or something.  :P ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 15, 2015, 07:23:30 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 14, 2015, 05:41:30 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 13, 2015, 11:33:18 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 13, 2015, 01:13:06 AM
It started the second play of the game with a BS targeting call that took one of our best linebackers out of the game. They didn't call a pass interference the whole night until the one at the end that was waved off on a tipped ball. There were at least five that should have been called. Then the late hit on our receiver in the 4th that wasn't called. The field judge standing 5 yards away looking right at it should never call a game again. The whole group of officials should give back their paychecks for this game.

Yeah. Refs weren't great. On the last two meaningful snaps of the game they missed penalties against both teams. What should have been the TD that forced overtime featured the receiver shoving off. It was massive. Full arms extended and the DB crashing to the ground 2 yards away as the ball arrived. The back judge missing that was unbelievable. Watching on the hill overlooking the endzone even the Huntingdon folks near me couldn't believe the WR got away with it. That TD never should have counted.

But the refs giveth and they taketh away. On the failed 2 point conversion that followed, the defender smothered the receiver well before the ball arrived and that should have been pass interference. It was also incredibly obvious and even the BSC folks on the other side were chuckling about a make up call. Either way, when teams rack up 9 or 10 personal fouls between them in one game, something is wrong.

The refs were poor, the Hawks were poor, why did they kick to #8 again? He was killing on returns and the Hawks just kept going to his side. Could the kicker not kick to the other side of the field? In the end, BSC did enough to win and Huntingdon helped them the whole game long. The two kick returns and then on two other TD drives they were kept alive with 15 yard penalties. That's ridiculous. Especially the one that negated the 15 yard sack where the QB slipped deep in the back field and the D-lineman decided 3 steps later to jump on top of him. That would have brought up 4th and forever and instead it was an automatic first down. That kid should run laps for an hour for that boneheaded mistake that led to a TD.

Coach Turk is going to be very unhappy when he watches that game film.
Yeah, we pretty much always try to kick it to that left side I guess to kind of hem them in that corner but it looks like they may have found a hole in our left side coverage there. With the open date this week we have two weeks to fix that.
I didn't really agree with going for two either. With the TD's on the kickoff returns their defense had been the field for most of the 4th quarter and I thought were tiring. I think we beat them in OT. I didn't see what happened on the two-point conversion as I had a tree blocking my view of the back of the endzone. I kind of lost it and blew up at the official on the no-call on the late hit on our receiver and put myself in time-out and watched the rest of the game from the hill next to my truck. With the school president sitting two rows in front of me when it happened I'm kind of wondering if I'm going to get some kind of reprimand or something. :P ;D
You probably wouldn't say much that a penitent $5000 check to the Annual Fund couldn't fix!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 16, 2015, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 13, 2015, 08:26:32 AMI didn't note the exact time ... guess I'll have to keep an exact log on my program.  :)
i'll make a note that accurate time keeping is one of the few things that is not your strength :)...per the box score, guilford starters appear to have been pulled with about 58 seconds remaining in the third period, as starters made every defensive and offensive play up until that point in the quarter

Quote from: hasanova on September 14, 2015, 09:27:54 AM
Three notes for ODAC and USASAC fans:

1.  Guilford football ranked (at #25) for the first time (to my knowledge) in school history.
2.  In related news, Hell freezes over at noon today.
3.  Any Averett fans making the trip to Greensboro on Saturday?  ... if so, make sure you say hello.
guilford is the real deal, and very deserving of the top 25 in my opinion, and not just because they dismantled mu last weekend - they have one of the best qb/rb/wr combo's in the region, and there is depth at rb and wr - 25 is almost as good as 27 and 10 might be the best wr on the guilford roster, although smith is going to get more "press" - what stood out to me is this...they were probably the first team i can ever remember where every person at every position was a better athlete than their mu counterpart - this guilford squad was as athletic as any team i've seen in monarch stadium in the last 2 decades - they have good size, are well coached, aggressive, athletic and have skill position players that are poised and know what they're doing - pawlowski never panics and throws such a good ball - the only thing i saw that could be a negative going forward is the number of penalties...but they've got enough talent to overcome those - they will not lose in the regular season, and if they do, it will be a massive upset
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 17, 2015, 12:05:43 AM
Quote from: narch on September 16, 2015, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 13, 2015, 08:26:32 AMI didn't note the exact time ... guess I'll have to keep an exact log on my program.  :)
i'll make a note that accurate time keeping is one of the few things that is not your strength :)...per the box score, guilford starters appear to have been pulled with about 58 seconds remaining in the third period, as starters made every defensive and offensive play up until that point in the quarter

Quote from: hasanova on September 14, 2015, 09:27:54 AM
Three notes for ODAC and USASAC fans:

1.  Guilford football ranked (at #25) for the first time (to my knowledge) in school history.
2.  In related news, Hell freezes over at noon today.
3.  Any Averett fans making the trip to Greensboro on Saturday?  ... if so, make sure you say hello.
guilford is the real deal, and very deserving of the top 25 in my opinion, and not just because they dismantled mu last weekend - they have one of the best qb/rb/wr combo's in the region, and there is depth at rb and wr - 25 is almost as good as 27 and 10 might be the best wr on the guilford roster, although smith is going to get more "press" - what stood out to me is this...they were probably the first team i can ever remember where every person at every position was a better athlete than their mu counterpart - this guilford squad was as athletic as any team i've seen in monarch stadium in the last 2 decades - they have good size, are well coached, aggressive, athletic and have skill position players that are poised and know what they're doing - pawlowski never panics and throws such a good ball - the only thing i saw that could be a negative going forward is the number of penalties...but they've got enough talent to overcome those - they will not lose in the regular season, and if they do, it will be a massive upset
Don't forget E&H in the ODAC week 11. Pretty talented offense they got themselves in SWVA. I guess we'll see how good either they or MC really is this Saturday.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 17, 2015, 09:24:53 AM
Quote from: narch on September 16, 2015, 10:17:38 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 13, 2015, 08:26:32 AMI didn't note the exact time ... guess I'll have to keep an exact log on my program.  :)
i'll make a note that accurate time keeping is one of the few things that is not your strength :)...per the box score, guilford starters appear to have been pulled with about 58 seconds remaining in the third period, as starters made every defensive and offensive play up until that point in the quarter

Quote from: hasanova on September 14, 2015, 09:27:54 AM
Three notes for ODAC and USASAC fans:

1.  Guilford football ranked (at #25) for the first time (to my knowledge) in school history.
2.  In related news, Hell freezes over at noon today.
3.  Any Averett fans making the trip to Greensboro on Saturday?  ... if so, make sure you say hello.
guilford is the real deal, and very deserving of the top 25 in my opinion, and not just because they dismantled mu last weekend - they have one of the best qb/rb/wr combo's in the region, and there is depth at rb and wr - 25 is almost as good as 27 and 10 might be the best wr on the guilford roster, although smith is going to get more "press" - what stood out to me is this...they were probably the first team i can ever remember where every person at every position was a better athlete than their mu counterpart - this guilford squad was as athletic as any team i've seen in monarch stadium in the last 2 decades - they have good size, are well coached, aggressive, athletic and have skill position players that are poised and know what they're doing - pawlowski never panics and throws such a good ball - the only thing i saw that could be a negative going forward is the number of penalties...but they've got enough talent to overcome those - they will not lose in the regular season, and if they do, it will be a massive upset
I suppose accurate time keeping could be one of my strengths if I hadn't been so busy talking with other GCQ fans around me.  lol  Thanks.

High praise for the Quakers, narch.  Hope we can live up to that as we finish the season, especially against the traditional ODAC frontrunners.  It's true, expectations are high on West Friendly Avenue, but we know other ODAC teams will not take it lightly ... glad we have SU, RMC, HSC and E&H at home!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 17, 2015, 09:50:25 AM
Yep. This season works out pretty favorably schedule wise for the Quakers. HSC and E&H are probably the other contenders and both of them have to visit Guilford. Good luck everywhere but Lexington!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots Dad 92 on September 17, 2015, 11:33:40 AM
I was disappointed that E&H had a week 2 bye. Would have liked to see more of what they have coming into this MC game with E&H. First year following D3 so closely so I had to look back some. It looks like E&H has been a thorn in the side of MC. I know that the upperclassmen and coaches are stressing to the younger guys that this is a revenge game. Can't wait to be there to see it, it should be an exciting match up between a high powered offence and a stingy defence.
GO SCOTTS!!!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 17, 2015, 01:50:27 PM
http://gowasps.com/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/20150914jwcf46

Hotel room reserved, client meetings down I-81 set, all I need now is a 12 pack of beer, a cooler full of ice, a Scots win and this will be one hell of a weekend.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
Maryville is one of the focuses of Ryan Tipps' Around the Nation column this week:

http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 17, 2015, 04:19:06 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 17, 2015, 02:12:21 PM
Maryville is one of the focuses of Ryan Tipps' Around the Nation column this week:

http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/
Read it.  Good coverage for the Scots.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 19, 2015, 09:24:57 PM
Maryville 30, E&H 13. Without Shuler...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 20, 2015, 02:00:38 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 19, 2015, 09:24:57 PM
Maryville 30, E&H 13. Without Shuler...
Congratulations to Maryville.  Not surprised they won, but I am by the margin.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 20, 2015, 02:31:37 PM
Congratulations also to Methodist ... narch, hope you were there!  To be honest, I didn't see this coming ... figured the Jackets as about 2 TD favorites.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 20, 2015, 08:54:07 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 20, 2015, 02:00:38 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 19, 2015, 09:24:57 PM
Maryville 30, E&H 13. Without Shuler...
Congratulations to Maryville.  Not surprised they won, but I am by the margin.

I heard Shuler wasn't playing and I thought it would be a 3 to 4 point game either way. No idea it would be by 17. Shuler plays in that game and the margin is 28-35. Could have picked up 1st downs throughout the game that allowed MC to put it in the end zone and not settle for a FG attempt. There were several ankle biter type tackles that Shuler would have busted. No doubt about it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AUgrad40 on September 21, 2015, 09:08:47 AM
I suppose I am going to have to attend a Maryville game this year.  Met their QB over the summer, and he surely seems to be a dynamic kid.

Congrats to the Quakers on a fantastic start to the season.  Always a good thing to have ranked opponents on your schedule, even if it does result in a loss.

On a more serious note, I was hoping to get some opinions about Averett football this year.  I do not get to make it to a lot of games, as I live in Knoxville now, so all of my frustration comes from the articles about the losses.  I understand that rebuilding seasons are a part of the game, but how long are we going to be rebuilding???  It is hard to look at the program in the same light as when I attended and played a short time ago.

Just my morning rant for today, I guess.  ;D ;D ;D

Good luck to all teams this weekend!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 21, 2015, 09:41:30 AM
Quote from: AUgrad40 on September 21, 2015, 09:08:47 AM
I suppose I am going to have to attend a Maryville game this year.  Met their QB over the summer, and he surely seems to be a dynamic kid.

Congrats to the Quakers on a fantastic start to the season.  Always a good thing to have ranked opponents on your schedule, even if it does result in a loss.

On a more serious note, I was hoping to get some opinions about Averett football this year.  I do not get to make it to a lot of games, as I live in Knoxville now, so all of my frustration comes from the articles about the losses.  I understand that rebuilding seasons are a part of the game, but how long are we going to be rebuilding???  It is hard to look at the program in the same light as when I attended and played a short time ago.

Just my morning rant for today, I guess.  ;D ;D ;D

Good luck to all teams this weekend!

Short and sweet of it for Averett (and LaGrange and Greensboro and Ferrum): they just aren't very good. They have some good athletes like they have had in the past, but can't seem to put it together. I have to admit, Averett is not my favorite, but I do like Coach Adams. I hope he can find some success.
You would think recruiting would be bolstered here recently with all the updates they are doing to their facilities. It doesn't look like it.

If AU can sure up their defense they might be able to win some close games. Until then, it'll be like a mule trying to chase a thoroughbred.
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Post by: jknezek on September 21, 2015, 09:46:52 AM
I watched the Averett at W&L game. There just aren't enough athletes on the field, especially on defense. W&L is not particularly athletic, but they manhandled the Averett defense. The other thing I noticed is Averett started with a transfer QB and he really struggled. Didn't look comfortable, missed open throws, etc. They put the starter back in from last year and the team immediately rallied around. After halftime they went back to the transfer and it wasn't pretty on offense and then finally gave up and went back to the guy who made things happen, but the game was well out of reach. I get that it was the first game and the transfer must have won the job in camp, but come game time he either had a really bad night or hadn't won the team over, or both. I don't know who Coach Adams went with in the games after that, but his eval of who was ready to play that night wasn't on target and the team, not just the QB, played like it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 21, 2015, 11:29:52 AM
Quote from: jknezek on September 21, 2015, 09:46:52 AM
I watched the Averett at W&L game. There just aren't enough athletes on the field, especially on defense. W&L is not particularly athletic, but they manhandled the Averett defense. The other thing I noticed is Averett started with a transfer QB and he really struggled. Didn't look comfortable, missed open throws, etc. They put the starter back in from last year and the team immediately rallied around. After halftime they went back to the transfer and it wasn't pretty on offense and then finally gave up and went back to the guy who made things happen, but the game was well out of reach. I get that it was the first game and the transfer must have won the job in camp, but come game time he either had a really bad night or hadn't won the team over, or both. I don't know who Coach Adams went with in the games after that, but his eval of who was ready to play that night wasn't on target and the team, not just the QB, played like it.
Kelly Hall, the transfer from UNC-Charlotte, seemed to play the whole game at Guilford ... some good plays, 270 yards passing.
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Post by: AUgrad40 on September 21, 2015, 11:37:46 AM
Unfortunately, I believe that both of you are correct.

A lot has changed with the program since my time at Averett, which I expected with the change in leadership.  I just hope that Coach Adams is able to right the ship, and at least make us competitive.

From what I can tell, we have weapons on offense.  It just looks like we will have to outscore every opponent.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 21, 2015, 11:49:13 AM
Quote from: AUgrad40 on September 21, 2015, 11:37:46 AM
Unfortunately, I believe that both of you are correct.

A lot has changed with the program since my time at Averett, which I expected with the change in leadership.  I just hope that Coach Adams is able to right the ship, and at least make us competitive.

From what I can tell, we have weapons on offense.  It just looks like we will have to outscore every opponent.
I think you're right ... you'll have to score 28 plus to win.  I give Averett a shot vs Greensboro and Ferrum, who both seem to be "righting the ship."  Methodist was completely outplayed versus Guilford, but topped RMC ... all told, I think the Monarchs are better than GCP, AU and FC.  Haven't seen the other USASAC teams, so not sure.  Looking at scores and opponents, however, pretty sure AU can't hang with Maryville.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 21, 2015, 01:15:24 PM
Quote from: hasanova on September 21, 2015, 11:49:13 AM
Quote from: AUgrad40 on September 21, 2015, 11:37:46 AM
Unfortunately, I believe that both of you are correct.

A lot has changed with the program since my time at Averett, which I expected with the change in leadership.  I just hope that Coach Adams is able to right the ship, and at least make us competitive.

From what I can tell, we have weapons on offense.  It just looks like we will have to outscore every opponent.
I think you're right ... you'll have to score 28 plus to win.  I give Averett a shot vs Greensboro and Ferrum, who both seem to be "righting the ship."  Methodist was completely outplayed versus Guilford, but topped RMC ... all told, I think the Monarchs are better than GCP, AU and FC.  Haven't seen the other USASAC teams, so not sure.  Looking at scores and opponents, however, pretty sure AU can't hang with Maryville.

Fair assessment.
I'm just glad we (USAC) won 2 games against the ODAC last week. We continue to struggle as a conference OOC.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 22, 2015, 01:30:41 PM
Gettysburg deservedly won the Play of the Week, but Guilford/Averett nomination was one of the five finalists.  Check it out!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 23, 2015, 01:31:07 PM
3 out of 3. Maryville wins USAC Play of the Week with Kimball's 63 yard touchdown against E&H.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 24, 2015, 06:36:06 PM
Well, we finally know what's up with Trenton Shuler-- staph infection, apparently in his stomach. Doctors have decided to keep him at Blount Memorial Hospital for a few more days. (This is his second stay in the hospital with this illness.) Doctors expect a full recovery. (Per father's post on Facebook.)

I hope you all will send up a prayer for Trenton and his family.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 27, 2015, 05:16:31 PM
Didn't make the trip to Mississippi this time so only caught parts on my phone yesterday and watched the other parts this morning. From that and the box score it didn't look like a real outstanding performance by the Hawks. The offense finally got into gear in the second half and was able to pull away with the help of a couple of turnovers. The defense gave up probably too much yardage but made some big stops at crucial points. Twice Belhaven had first and goal inside the five(one was first and goal inside the one) and had to settle for field goals. Basically a good win to finish the non-conference part of the schedule. Looking for a big game from everyone this week to begin conference play and homecoming. Go Hawks!

We decided to stay in the area and go see Faulkner's home opener where they destroyed what was supposed to be a pretty good Georgetown 44-0. Was able to see my nephew get in and throw his first college TD pass. Pretty awesome to get to see that.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 28, 2015, 01:51:15 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 27, 2015, 05:16:31 PM
Didn't make the trip to Mississippi this time so only caught parts on my phone yesterday and watched the other parts this morning. From that and the box score it didn't look like a real outstanding performance by the Hawks. The offense finally got into gear in the second half and was able to pull away with the help of a couple of turnovers. The defense gave up probably too much yardage but made some big stops at crucial points. Twice Belhaven had first and goal inside the five(one was first and goal inside the one) and had to settle for field goals. Basically a good win to finish the non-conference part of the schedule. Looking for a big game from everyone this week to begin conference play and homecoming. Go Hawks!

We decided to stay in the area and go see Faulkner's home opener where they destroyed what was supposed to be a pretty good Georgetown 44-0. Was able to see my nephew get in and throw his first college TD pass. Pretty awesome to get to see that.
Congratualtions to your nephew!  We all live vicariously through our children and siblings' kids ... I remember the elation I felt in 2004 when my son was All-State in wrestling and his cousin's basketball team won the state championship.  My nephew went on to play DII college basketball and had some good moments there as well, including hitting 9 three-pointers in a row as a 6'8" forward.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 28, 2015, 03:13:15 PM
Hawks
hope all is well.
I am glad we dont play Faulkner anymore. The hawks were 4-0 (?) against them, but they are loaded now.  Thier teams keep getting better each year.
Hope all is well with yall keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 29, 2015, 10:59:17 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 28, 2015, 03:13:15 PM
Hawks
hope all is well.
I am glad we dont play Faulkner anymore. The hawks were 4-0 (?) against them, but they are loaded now.  Thier teams keep getting better each year.
Hope all is well with yall keep the faith
DGP,
Doing well over here, friend. That would be a real tough matchup if we still played them. That defense was scary the other day. Definitely some athletes over there. I hate I wasn't consulted on the schedules though.  :P Faulkner has three home games left and they are all at the same time as HC home games. Going to have to decide which games that I will miss that I really want to see.
You take care.
Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 02, 2015, 10:06:25 PM
Ferrum beat Greensboro 31-20.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on October 03, 2015, 07:39:05 AM
After observing the first 4 weeks of the season played against non-conference opponents, the reality is that the USA-South is not a good conference this season.  Our conference was 8-16 during against non-conference teams with Ferrum, LaGrange, Averett and N.C. Wesleyan compiling 0-3 records.  That's 50% of our conference teams. 

With the exception of Maryville's win against Emory & Henry, most of the conference wins were against low-end teams.  (I know much was made against MC's win against East Tennessee, but Emory & Henry beat ETSU 2 weeks later.  In reality ETSU is a JV team with playing with just freshmen and is not better than a low end D-3 team).

Methodist got crushed by Guilford.  Huntingdon lost to Birmingham-Southern for the first time and their 2 wins are against teams who have not won a game this season.  Greensboro's only win was against Gallaudet.

I was expecting good things this season from LaGrange, but we are 0-3 and were favored in all 3 of their losses.   BTW, Air-Mumme's dad at Belhaven, Hal Mumme is 0-4 which makes the Mumme family 0-7 this season.

Why has this been a continued problem for our conference year after year???
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 03, 2015, 11:45:41 AM
Quote from: PantherGuy on October 03, 2015, 07:39:05 AM
After observing the first 4 weeks of the season played against non-conference opponents, the reality is that the USA-South is not a good conference this season.  Our conference was 8-16 during against non-conference teams with Ferrum, LaGrange, Averett and N.C. Wesleyan compiling 0-3 records.  That's 50% of our conference teams. 

With the exception of Maryville's win against Emory & Henry, most of the conference wins were against low-end teams.  (I know much was made against MC's win against East Tennessee, but Emory & Henry beat ETSU 2 weeks later.  In reality ETSU is a JV team with playing with just freshmen and is not better than a low end D-3 team).

Methodist got crushed by Guilford.  Huntingdon lost to Birmingham-Southern for the first time and their 2 wins are against teams who have not won a game this season.  Greensboro's only win was against Gallaudet.

I was expecting good things this season from LaGrange, but we are 0-3 and were favored in all 3 of their losses.   BTW, Air-Mumme's dad at Belhaven, Hal Mumme is 0-4 which makes the Mumme family 0-7 this season.

Why has this been a continued problem for our conference year after year???

So you're saying Greensboro, Averett, Ferrum, NCWC, and LaGrange can beat ETSU as well? ETSU's team of freshmen would wax the rest of the conference. Huntingdon could scored some points on them, but make no mistake- they are not a "low end D3 team". No matter the situation, anytime a non-scholarship program beats a scholarship program it's a good win. Plain and simple.

MC beat E&H 30-13 without Trenton Shuler in the line up. That's by 17 without the offensive stud making the trip. Pretty impressive, I'd say.

You can clump the USAC teams into the "terrible" category if you want, but MC is not one of them.

Maryville 43, Berry 17 (Berry is now 3-1)
Maryville 28, ETSU 21
Maryville 30, E&H 13 (E&H is now 2-1, playing RMC today, and was picked second in the ODAC)


And the problems for the USAC are recruiting and facilities..
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 03, 2015, 03:20:51 PM
Terrible start to the 3rd. Muffed punt and fumbled snap in 2 possessions lead to 14 easy points for MU. MC up 21-17.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 03, 2015, 04:24:13 PM
MC comes back to win 29-23. Methodist came to play today, boys and girls.

I've been wondering why they have been playing a freshman at quarterback when they have Vann and I found out the reason. The kid is pretty good. Second coming of Reber over the next 3.5 years?

It was ugly in the second half, but MC is now 4-0.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 03, 2015, 09:57:44 PM
another classic mu vs. mvc game...i was watching on live stats all afternoon, and i kept saying "just hold on boys"...i knew there would be a crazy finish...there almost always is with mu and mvc - when i saw that mu gave the ball back to mvc with a couple minutes left (in really good field position, too), i had a pit in my stomach

senior leadership at the qb position is big in close games, and pittenger is as good as it gets in this conference...kid went 5-5 for 48 yards on the game-winning drive...that's what senior qb's do
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 03, 2015, 10:20:04 PM
With the FG right before halftime and starting the third with the TD drive to go up 18 I thought we were ready to pull away and cruise to an easy win but we followed that by throwing an interception that NCW was able to turn into 7 points followed by a three and out that NCW turned into 7 points and it ended up being a dogfight the rest of the way. A terrific int by Jake Green with less than 3 minutes to play pretty much iced it and we were able to run out the clock. The big minus today was too many big plays given up by our defense. We got lucky several times where NCW had receivers open deep and either the ball was overthrown or just dropped. It is good to get a win but we have to better as we get deeper into conference play.
Hawks travel to Ferrum next week. Take care of business and bring home the win.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 04, 2015, 09:10:06 AM
Quote from: narch on October 03, 2015, 09:57:44 PM
another classic mu vs. mvc game...i was watching on live stats all afternoon, and i kept saying "just hold on boys"...i knew there would be a crazy finish...there almost always is with mu and mvc - when i saw that mu gave the ball back to mvc with a couple minutes left (in really good field position, too), i had a pit in my stomach

senior leadership at the qb position is big in close games, and pittenger is as good as it gets in this conference...kid went 5-5 for 48 yards on the game-winning drive...that's what senior qb's do

The headline in the paper in Maryville for one of the articles on the game reads "Just A Typical Methodist vs Maryville Game".
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 04, 2015, 11:31:21 AM
IMHO......ETSU at this point is more in line with a mid level ish D3 team. They would wax the bottom of the USA South and ODAC. The top tier D3 teams would wax ETSU.

Quote from: Scots13 on October 03, 2015, 11:45:41 AM
Quote from: PantherGuy on October 03, 2015, 07:39:05 AM
After observing the first 4 weeks of the season played against non-conference opponents, the reality is that the USA-South is not a good conference this season.  Our conference was 8-16 during against non-conference teams with Ferrum, LaGrange, Averett and N.C. Wesleyan compiling 0-3 records.  That's 50% of our conference teams. 

With the exception of Maryville's win against Emory & Henry, most of the conference wins were against low-end teams.  (I know much was made against MC's win against East Tennessee, but Emory & Henry beat ETSU 2 weeks later.  In reality ETSU is a JV team with playing with just freshmen and is not better than a low end D-3 team).

Methodist got crushed by Guilford.  Huntingdon lost to Birmingham-Southern for the first time and their 2 wins are against teams who have not won a game this season.  Greensboro's only win was against Gallaudet.

I was expecting good things this season from LaGrange, but we are 0-3 and were favored in all 3 of their losses.   BTW, Air-Mumme's dad at Belhaven, Hal Mumme is 0-4 which makes the Mumme family 0-7 this season.

Why has this been a continued problem for our conference year after year???

So you're saying Greensboro, Averett, Ferrum, NCWC, and LaGrange can beat ETSU as well? ETSU's team of freshmen would wax the rest of the conference. Huntingdon could scored some points on them, but make no mistake- they are not a "low end D3 team". No matter the situation, anytime a non-scholarship program beats a scholarship program it's a good win. Plain and simple.

MC beat E&H 30-13 without Trenton Shuler in the line up. That's by 17 without the offensive stud making the trip. Pretty impressive, I'd say.

You can clump the USAC teams into the "terrible" category if you want, but MC is not one of them.

Maryville 43, Berry 17 (Berry is now 3-1)
Maryville 28, ETSU 21
Maryville 30, E&H 13 (E&H is now 2-1, playing RMC today, and was picked second in the ODAC)


And the problems for the USAC are recruiting and facilities..
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: allsky7 on October 04, 2015, 11:33:08 AM
Q3 was ugly ugly ugly. The Fighting Scot O owes the D dinner.....big time!!!  ;D

Quote from: Scots13 on October 04, 2015, 09:10:06 AM
Quote from: narch on October 03, 2015, 09:57:44 PM
another classic mu vs. mvc game...i was watching on live stats all afternoon, and i kept saying "just hold on boys"...i knew there would be a crazy finish...there almost always is with mu and mvc - when i saw that mu gave the ball back to mvc with a couple minutes left (in really good field position, too), i had a pit in my stomach

senior leadership at the qb position is big in close games, and pittenger is as good as it gets in this conference...kid went 5-5 for 48 yards on the game-winning drive...that's what senior qb's do

The headline in the paper in Maryville for one of the articles on the game reads "Just A Typical Methodist vs Maryville Game".
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 04, 2015, 02:47:10 PM
I agree with both posts.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots Dad 92 on October 05, 2015, 12:30:27 PM
I was at the Game Saturday and there is a definite difference of the O when #25 is not part of the O. No excuses, but the biggest difference between the first half and the second half was the rain. The punt and punt return team for MC could not handle the ball at all in the weather conditions and MU could. The MC D came up big after our special teams gave up the ball three times deep in our own territory holding MU to three field goals. The MC offence seemed to go into safe mode in the third and finally coming back to life after losing the lead.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 09, 2015, 09:44:37 AM
Good luck and safe travels to the Hawks at Ferrum this weekend. According to the Montgomery Advertiser gameday preview(http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/football/game-day/2015/10/09/gameday-preview-huntingdon-ferrum-virginia/73638658/) this will be our longest trip of the season at 536 miles. I'm pretty sure that's our shortest longest trip of the season ever.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 10, 2015, 04:03:50 PM
Can someone explain how NC Wesleyan can bury M'ville like that? I get that NC Wes has been in all their games, but M'Ville was looking very solid until last week. Now they seem to have lost the plot completely.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 10, 2015, 05:29:48 PM
Maryville made too many mistakes and Wesleyan played a complete game for once
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots Dad 92 on October 10, 2015, 05:43:23 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on October 10, 2015, 05:29:48 PM
Maryville made too many mistakes and Wesleyan played a complete game for once
It's like MC just melts down in the rain!!! That way last week as well. Need to turn on the sprinklers in practice!!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 10, 2015, 05:48:43 PM
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 10, 2015, 07:09:53 PM
Didn't watch today but it looks like Huntingdon pretty much took care of business except for struggling through the second quarter. Anthony White with 3 interceptions is nice. 5 guys with at least 69 rush yards so it looks like we were able to do whatever we wanted on the ground but the passing numbers aren't too good. I guess it may have been raining and may have affected the passing game some.
Time to do some work this week and get that LaGrange monkey off our backs.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 10, 2015, 09:03:30 PM
the freshman qb for the monarchs had a coming out party, but wasn't able to bring mu all the way back...by far his best game, but the au offense overwhelmed the mu defense today, and the au defense made a couple of big plays late - mu had two td's called back - one on a holding call and the other a few plays later on a chop block - entertaining game to watch
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ben Stein Fan on October 11, 2015, 09:59:10 PM
Quote from: PantherGuy on October 03, 2015, 07:39:05 AM


I was expecting good things this season from LaGrange, but we are 0-3 and were favored in all 3 of their losses.   BTW, Air-Mumme's dad at Belhaven, Hal Mumme is 0-4 which makes the Mumme family 0-7 this season.

LaGrange was favored in all 3 games?  Where did you get those betting lines?  Ava Maria is a scholarship program and barely lost away to the #4 NAIA school in the nation.  LaGrange was honestly robbed at Berry.  We crossed the goal line not once but twice. 

Look, I know you dislike Coach Mumme for some perceived slight, but you need to grow up and be honest.  If you can't tell an improvement in the overall program at LaGrange since Coach Mumme took over then you are not paying attention.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Adam Turer on October 13, 2015, 07:24:34 PM
Hey All,

I don't get much time to check the boards, but enjoyed reading through the recent conversations. I was surprised by a couple of results on Saturday, but I'm excited that the conference now appears to be wide open. Huntingdon is in prime position, but faces its perennial bugaboo Saturday night. I thought Maryville had a chance to run the table, but now we have a few weeks to see what happens before the Hawks and Scots square off. Hope y'all are reading Around the Mid-Atlantic each week. Feel free to reach out to me with any story ideas.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 17, 2015, 04:10:51 PM
the monarchs finally win a close one, taking down ncwc 31-28...big final drive for degroot, taking mu 70 yards in a little over 1:20 to score the game winning td - he was under 50% for the day, but he got it done when it mattered most
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 17, 2015, 05:48:09 PM
Homecoming '15 went well for Maryville. A TON of support. Probably 2,000 stayed outside of the gate and max capacity inside to see MC's offense put up 70 on Ferrum. Defense could've played better in the first half. End of 2nd Q was 35-27 after a 47 yard TD with :06 to go for MC. Final was 70-37.

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 17, 2015, 09:06:10 PM
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 17, 2015, 10:35:31 PM
Great to finally get a conference win over LaGrange so that's not a thing anymore. It was a very frustrating first half being down 7-3 at halftime. We came out in the second half and pretty much just lined up and ran it down their throat. Good thing that we were able to run the ball so well because our passing game was non-existent. Their DB's were able to keep us covered up all night.
Time to get to work on turning around that 0-2 against Methodist.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 17, 2015, 10:51:35 PM
Hawks
I had to play farmer all day, got in and watched the last quarter on the computer. The parts i watched we looked pretty good.

Methodist has had our number, They won today, ??? , they will / are good no way around it,
Keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2015, 02:27:27 PM
Just checking in on my old stomping grounds. Glad to see everyone is doing ok. Anybody miss me? bahaha....don't answer.

This new NJAC is brutal. 1-5 and our first losing season looms!! But is fun. The team is playing hard and trying to adjust to bigger, faster and better players.  We own the first half....second half not so much.

Cheers to all!!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 20, 2015, 02:40:59 PM
Usually when you own the first half but get beat in the second consistently you either lack the conditioning, lack the depth, or your coaches are being out coached with half time adjustments. It will be interesting to see what is the solution for CNU. I haven't watched any of CNU's games, so I have no idea.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2015, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 20, 2015, 02:40:59 PM
Usually when you own the first half but get beat in the second consistently you either lack the conditioning, lack the depth, or your coaches are being out coached with half time adjustments. It will be interesting to see what is the solution for CNU. I haven't watched any of CNU's games, so I have no idea.

Yeah...those are the normal things to look at....but so far everyone is at a loss. I would lean towards the depth issue and the fact that the competition is so good that they never give up and fight their way back in the game.  We have had the lead in every game. The most we were down at the half was 11 and that was to Wesley. We were up at the half in 3 of the 6 games. I just don't know for sure. And if the players and coaches knew, they would have fixed it by now. It will be interesting in the last 4 games to see how they respond. Playing in a conf w/3 top 25 teams is just downright brutal. This week we get a non ranked team....oh yeah...and they are 5-1.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 20, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
I watched a little of the Rowan game. Thought they could've won and "big" one. Doesn't help you guys don't have Morrast or Rudolph any longer. Tough guys to lose and switch to the NJAC.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 20, 2015, 03:15:48 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 20, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
I watched a little of the Rowan game. Thought they could've won and "big" one. Doesn't help you guys don't have Morrast or Rudolph any longer. Tough guys to lose and switch to the NJAC.

That game stills hurts. We didn't let Rowan on our side of the field until the 4th...ugh!!!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 20, 2015, 03:40:34 PM
Quote from: narch on October 17, 2015, 04:10:51 PM
the monarchs finally win a close one, taking down ncwc 31-28...big final drive for degroot, taking mu 70 yards in a little over 1:20 to score the game winning td - he was under 50% for the day, but he got it done when it mattered most
Congratulations to the Monarchs!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 24, 2015, 06:47:29 PM
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 24, 2015, 09:06:42 PM
Well, nothing to complain about today with the 42-6 final. It was a kind of weird 1st half though. HC scored the first TD with 11:08 left in the 1st quarter. The next time our offense got on the field was with 11:02 left in the 2nd quarter. MU had an 8+ minute drive that ended with an Anthony White 100 yd pick-six followed by a 6+ minute drive that ended with a field goal. HC ended up with 6:35 time of possession in the 1st half but led 28-3 at the half.
Trip to Greensboro this week. Hopefully we will take care of business and not get caught looking ahead.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 24, 2015, 09:37:25 PM
"Trip to Greensboro this week. Hopefully we will take care of business and not get caught looking ahead."
Amen
1 day, 1 week at a time ;)

Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 25, 2015, 09:04:00 AM
6-1
6-1
2-4
2-5
1-5
3-4
2-5
1-6

Season records for the USASAC so far this year.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 25, 2015, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 25, 2015, 09:04:00 AM
6-1
6-1
2-4
2-5
1-5
3-4
2-5
1-6

Season records for the USASAC so far this year.
I saw that this morning as well. Terrible.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 25, 2015, 08:00:31 PM
welllllllllllllll........... not so bad for Murrrvul and  The Huntingdon Hawks of Montgomery A-L-A-B-A-M-A

;)

jknezek - I pray you and yours are well, keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 25, 2015, 08:36:03 PM
Doing good DG. Hope you and yours are good as well. Caught your boys at BSC. Not their best effort. Seems better since. I'm off to E&H this weekend to see if my boys can stay undefeated. Keeping one eye on your date with Mville. Might beg the wife to let me see that one.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 26, 2015, 10:47:36 AM
We discussed Brevard College over on the ODAC page last week and the press release where they are flirting with the USASAC was linked. A coworker of mine was up there this weekend for something unrelated to football and I asked him about the facilities. He laughed and said they play football at the local h.s. Uggh...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 26, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
A la Greensboro and NCWC..
Must be an NC thing.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 26, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 26, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
A la Greensboro and NCWC..
Must be an NC thing.

LaGrange too last time I checked.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 26, 2015, 02:44:55 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 26, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 26, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
A la Greensboro and NCWC..
Must be an NC thing.

LaGrange too last time I checked.
The LaGrange stadium is more like a "community" stadium and is located "adjacent" to the campus. It is a beautful facility
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 26, 2015, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 26, 2015, 02:44:55 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 26, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 26, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
A la Greensboro and NCWC..
Must be an NC thing.

LaGrange too last time I checked.
The LaGrange stadium is more like a "community" stadium and is located "adjacent" to the campus. It is a beautful facility
It is nice, just a bit too large.
I heard somewhere it was built for the '96 Atlanta Games. Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GillCJ1 on October 26, 2015, 03:38:27 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 26, 2015, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 26, 2015, 02:44:55 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 26, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 26, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
A la Greensboro and NCWC..
Must be an NC thing.

LaGrange too last time I checked.
The LaGrange stadium is more like a "community" stadium and is located "adjacent" to the campus. It is a beautful facility
It is nice, just a bit too large.
I heard somewhere it was built for the '96 Atlanta Games. Can anyone confirm?

Wiki says it was built in 1958.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callaway_Stadium

I lived in Atlanta for about 14 years (including the '96 Olympics) and don't remember hearing about them building a stadium in LaGrange.  My old high school, however, benefited from the Olympics.  Their stadium was originally constructed for Olympic events, but afterward broken down and shipped up to the high school.  Not really sure how it worked, to be honest, but that's what we were told just the same.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 26, 2015, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: GillCJ1 on October 26, 2015, 03:38:27 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 26, 2015, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 26, 2015, 02:44:55 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 26, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 26, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
A la Greensboro and NCWC..
Must be an NC thing.

LaGrange too last time I checked.
The LaGrange stadium is more like a "community" stadium and is located "adjacent" to the campus. It is a beautful facility
It is nice, just a bit too large.
I heard somewhere it was built for the '96 Atlanta Games. Can anyone confirm?

Wiki says it was built in 1958.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callaway_Stadium

I lived in Atlanta for about 14 years (including the '96 Olympics) and don't remember hearing about them building a stadium in LaGrange.  My old high school, however, benefited from the Olympics.  Their stadium was originally constructed for Olympic events, but afterward broken down and shipped up to the high school.  Not really sure how it worked, to be honest, but that's what we were told just the same.
From the Wiki article, "Its capacity is roughly 5,000 people all day long and has a press box on the home side." ALL day long you say?  ???
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on October 26, 2015, 04:14:22 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 26, 2015, 04:04:46 PM
Quote from: GillCJ1 on October 26, 2015, 03:38:27 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 26, 2015, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 26, 2015, 02:44:55 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 26, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 26, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
A la Greensboro and NCWC..
Must be an NC thing.

LaGrange too last time I checked.
The LaGrange stadium is more like a "community" stadium and is located "adjacent" to the campus. It is a beautful facility
It is nice, just a bit too large.
I heard somewhere it was built for the '96 Atlanta Games. Can anyone confirm?

Wiki says it was built in 1958.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callaway_Stadium

I lived in Atlanta for about 14 years (including the '96 Olympics) and don't remember hearing about them building a stadium in LaGrange.  My old high school, however, benefited from the Olympics.  Their stadium was originally constructed for Olympic events, but afterward broken down and shipped up to the high school.  Not really sure how it worked, to be honest, but that's what we were told just the same.
From the Wiki article, "Its capacity is roughly 5,000 people all day long and has a press box on the home side." ALL day long you say?  ???

Gee, do most stadiums change capacity depending on the time of day?! ;D

Good ol' Wiki. :P
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GillCJ1 on October 26, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
Hahaha.  Good catch.  And yes, we all know how reliable wiki is...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 26, 2015, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: GillCJ1 on October 26, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
Hahaha.  Good catch.  And yes, we all know how reliable wiki is...

Well, if I remember my eighth grade earth science class correctly, metal expands when warm, so perhaps if it's poorly built, it could be larger when warmer. :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 26, 2015, 05:29:49 PM
 Callaway is a beautiful stadium. I have been to a few high school games there over the years. I thought it did get an up grade/face lift for the '96 Olympics for soccer or sumthin, but could be wrong.

It is closer to my place than Huntingdon, but the boy visited, and had no (none, nada) desire to go there.
LaGrange is a fine school, and several of local kids went there , played soccer, or basketball and such.

very nice school
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GillCJ1 on October 26, 2015, 05:36:40 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 26, 2015, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: GillCJ1 on October 26, 2015, 04:15:15 PM
Hahaha.  Good catch.  And yes, we all know how reliable wiki is...

Well, if I remember my eighth grade earth science class correctly, metal expands when warm, so perhaps if it's poorly built, it could be larger when warmer. :)

Ha!  You may be on to something...


Quote from: DGPugh on October 26, 2015, 05:29:49 PM
Callaway is a beautiful stadium. I have been to a few high school games there over the years. I thought it did get an up grade/face lift for the '96 Olympics for soccer or sumthin, but could be wrong.

It is closer to my place than Huntingdon, but the boy visited, and had no (none, nada) desire to go there.
LaGrange is a fine school, and several of local kids went there , played soccer, or basketball and such.

very nice school
keep the faith

This is entirely possible.  I attended several events during the '96 games, but don't recall ever seeing or hearing anything about LaGrange.  I had a close friend who went to college there, though.  I'll try and get in touch with her to see if she knows.

I'll also ask her about the rumors regarding the fluctuating stadium capacity, too.   ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 26, 2015, 06:02:13 PM
 ;D
YALL HAVE A GREAT WEEK
KEEP THE FAITH
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 26, 2015, 08:08:45 PM
Bishop Stadium is part of the Rocky Mount Sports Complex for the time being. The stadium seats a capacity 5000 to 7000. It was built originally for Rocky Mount High School. Two years ago a new high school
was built including,  a new on campus stadium, leaving the old stadium unoccupied.  Wesleyan entered into a contract  to use the stadium as its own until their new on campus stadium is built in about 3 to five years. I have seen the projected plans for the on campus stadium and is will be "first class".The city holds  the Elizabeth City Classic, pitting Elizabeth City State University and a fellow member of the CIAA Conference. The complex includes several Baseball and soccer fields which are well know for the tournaments held each year in both sports featuring teams from all over the state. The Stadium was renamed "Bishop stadium" this year so that the Bishops would have a temporary Home facility. It is located about 2 miles from the campus.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 30, 2015, 12:50:46 PM
The LaGrange - Murrvul game is a tough one for me, i have a hard time pulling for either  ;D


Congrats to Anthony White for his game last week.
Safe travel for the Hawks to Greensboro, NC for tomorrows game.
Hope the Hawks will play hard and score at least 1 more point than the Pride  :)
Keep the faith & Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 30, 2015, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 30, 2015, 12:50:46 PM
The LaGrange - Murrvul game is a tough one for me, i have a hard time pulling for either  ;D


Congrats to Anthony White for his game last week.
Safe travel for the Hawks to Greensboro, NC for tomorrows game.
Hope the Hawks will play hard and score at least 1 more point than the Pride  :)
Keep the faith & Go Hawks
That's okay. You can probably find it in your heart to root for either one of them against ISIS!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 30, 2015, 04:06:05 PM
Ralph Obi Wan
probably, a decision might call for a 2 outa 3 coin toss ;)
I pray you and yours are well.
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 30, 2015, 10:19:11 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 30, 2015, 02:48:51 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 30, 2015, 12:50:46 PM
The LaGrange - Murrvul game is a tough one for me, i have a hard time pulling for either  ;D


Congrats to Anthony White for his game last week.
Safe travel for the Hawks to Greensboro, NC for tomorrows game.
Hope the Hawks will play hard and score at least 1 more point than the Pride  :)
Keep the faith & Go Hawks
That's okay. You can probably find it in your heart to root for either one of them against ISIS!
You, sir, are both a gentleman and a scholar.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on October 31, 2015, 09:06:59 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 25, 2015, 12:58:14 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 25, 2015, 09:04:00 AM
6-1
6-1
2-4
2-5
1-5
3-4
2-5
1-6

Season records for the USASAC so far this year.
I saw that this morning as well. Terrible.

My post from a couple of weeks ago brought out the point that I have concerns about the low respect the USA-South has nationally and why we are in this position.  When my son played at Maryville in the mid-2000's the conference was very strong and talented with CNU, North Carolina Wesleyan, Shenandoah, Ferrum and Averett all very physical teams.  Methodist won the conference during that time.  Presently, CNU and Shenandoah are gone.  Ferrum, Averett and Methodist are only a shell of what they once were.  Maryville joined the conference and spent several years catching up talent-wise to become a #3/#4 solid program in the conference by the end of the decade.

In my opinion, Maryville has the only significant wins by any conference member during this season with a win over a good 5-2 E&H team and beating Berry who is 6-1.  However, they had an embarrassing 24-7 loss to NCW 24-7 who was 0-4 at the time and just barely beat a 1-5 Averett by only 5 points.  They are no longer receiving any votes in the national poll.   Huntingdon, like Maryville, is 6-1 with its only loss to a 4-4 Birmingham Southern team.  Their non-conference wins are over a 1-7 Belhaven and a 2-5 Louisiana College.

Unfortunately, the rest of the conference teams record speaks for itself.

From what I have seen watching my step-son play at LaGrange and finishing up last year, the talent level in the conference is significantly lower than it was 10 years ago throughout the conference.  I don't know if it's because of admissions changes in their schools, financial aid, etc., but there is a big difference.  Maybe, our conference needs to step out and play some of the northern schools and to improve the image of the USA-South on a national level. We need to go to Ohio and Pennsylvania to play some of these teams.  Our conference needs to take a deep look at ourselves and plot a better future for our conference.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on October 31, 2015, 09:16:02 AM
Quote from: Ben Stein Fan on October 11, 2015, 09:59:10 PM
Quote from: PantherGuy on October 03, 2015, 07:39:05 AM



Look, I know you dislike Coach Mumme for some perceived slight, but you need to grow up and be honest.  If you can't tell an improvement in the overall program at LaGrange since Coach Mumme took over then you are not paying attention.


LaGrange is 2-4.  Today would be a good day for LaGrange to prove me wrong that he has the program going in the right direction by beating Maryville today.

But he is doing better than his dad at Belhaven.  Belhaven is 1-7 this season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 31, 2015, 01:23:14 PM
Alabama boys: just saw the goal line stand by Greensboro. Hopefully your boy is ok. He can run the damn, that's for sure.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 31, 2015, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2015, 01:23:14 PM
Alabama boys: just saw the goal line stand by Greensboro. Hopefully your boy is ok. He can run the damn, that's for sure.
Yeah, I'm worried about that one. Especially since it was on a play that never should have happened seeing as how he was laying on top of an offensive lineman in the end-zone on the third down play. Not sure how that was spotted at the one foot line.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 31, 2015, 04:03:21 PM
Go Hawks

Good win......now... gots to get ready for Murrvul. The final score 'teeen them and lGrange wont matter, the records 'tween the 2 schools wont matter, I dont think there is a home field advantage.

It will be a good game. Huntingdon will have to show up with thier 'A' game to stay with the Scots.
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 31, 2015, 04:18:05 PM
Murrval - laGrange..............Yall watching this ?
WOW
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 31, 2015, 04:21:20 PM
Murvul pulls it out! Next week for all the marbles!

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 31, 2015, 04:23:33 PM
Hawks 88

Man, i hate playing them after that come back.

Hope yall have a great week
Go Hawks


Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 31, 2015, 04:43:34 PM
Someone call Vegas and see what the opening line is. Hawks still have the upper hand although a lot of young Scots showed me in the fourth quarter they've grown up.
As Coach I told us one day, after week 7 there are no freshmen.

And Ferrum came back and beat MU after being down by 21..
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 31, 2015, 04:50:26 PM
Great come back

It will be a great game......
keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on October 31, 2015, 08:23:07 PM
the monarchs figured out how to snap defeat from the jaws of victory after being up 28-7 to start the 4th...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 31, 2015, 08:31:44 PM
Kind of like the Maryville-LaGrange game today. MC out scored LC 24-3 in the 4th to win by 7.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 01, 2015, 06:46:03 PM
Quote from: narch on October 31, 2015, 08:23:07 PM
the monarchs figured out how to snap defeat from the jaws of victory after being up 28-7 to start the 4th...
tough loss for sure
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots Dad 92 on November 05, 2015, 10:33:02 PM
I do not like the forecast for the Maryville vs Huntingdon game. All year the Scots have struggled in the rain. The loss to NCW was a wet day and Methodist almost came back and won after half time when the rain started. The LaGrange game I think somebody spilled a water in the stands or something.
Go Scots!!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 07, 2015, 09:58:51 AM
Right now the sun is out in Montgomery. Most of the rain is supposed to stay to the north so maybe we will luck out? From the looks of the radar Birmingham is getting slammed.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2015, 10:01:11 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 07, 2015, 09:58:51 AM
Right now the sun is out in Montgomery. Most of the rain is supposed to stay to the north so maybe we will luck out? From the looks of the radar Birmingham is getting slammed.

Woo hoo! Rain!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 07, 2015, 10:23:27 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 07, 2015, 10:01:11 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 07, 2015, 09:58:51 AM
Right now the sun is out in Montgomery. Most of the rain is supposed to stay to the north so maybe we will luck out? From the looks of the radar Birmingham is getting slammed.

Woo hoo! Rain!

Pouring here. All morning in Birmingham. Supposed to stop now for a few hours then start up again about game time. Going to be a wet day.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 07, 2015, 10:40:43 AM
Any word on Iwaniec's injury?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 07, 2015, 10:49:18 AM
I was just told that he's playing.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 07, 2015, 11:05:33 AM
Good. I know one of the officials that had the GC game last week and he thought it was a hamstring. Those are tough injuries.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 07, 2015, 07:10:32 PM
 Go Hawks

Next week got to keep this going and get up for the Averett Cougars

keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 07, 2015, 08:52:32 PM
Congrats DG and Hawks. Been a few more years coming than I thought when you joined the USASAC but happy to see you got a win. As an island team you might even do OK in the first round with a home game against Berry if they rebound from this week. Otherwise I believe you are 500+ from anyone else reasonably expected to make the field.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 07, 2015, 09:41:54 PM
Not sure of the NCAA calculation but google says it's 489 miles to Hendrix.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 07, 2015, 09:45:59 PM
And thanks for the congrats. Great to finally clear that hurdle. Couldn't be prouder of these guys.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 07, 2015, 09:47:47 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 07, 2015, 09:41:54 PM
Not sure of the NCAA calculation but google says it's 489 miles to Hendrix.

Yeah. I checked TES. You can go to any of the three SAA schools I think are in contention. Berry, Centre, or Hendrix. W&L is too far. ETBU is 502 miles by TES (NCAA calculator) so you are spared that possibility. UMHB and H-SU are too far. Not many options. I think you and the SAA are going to have to face off, though the three SAA schools all have other possibilities. Hendrix can go to UMHB or ETBU I think, but not H-SU.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 07, 2015, 09:59:07 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 07, 2015, 09:47:47 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 07, 2015, 09:41:54 PM
Not sure of the NCAA calculation but google says it's 489 miles to Hendrix.

Yeah. I checked TES. You can go to any of the three SAA schools I think are in contention. Berry, Centre, or Hendrix. W&L is too far. ETBU is 502 miles by TES (NCAA calculator) so you are spared that possibility. UMHB and H-SU are too far. Not many options. I think you and the SAA are going to have to face off, though the three SAA schools all have other possibilities. Hendrix can go to UMHB or ETBU I think, but not H-SU.
Trying to figure out where we might play each opponent and I'm thinking it might come down to the common opponents. If it's Berry I think they come to Montgomery since we both beat LaGrange and both lost to BSC but then we beat Maryville who they lost to. I'm pretty sure we would travel to either Hendrix or Centre as they both beat BSC who we lost to. But I could be wrong on the Berry match-up if our terrible SOS ends up taking more weight.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 07, 2015, 10:25:55 PM
Thanks jknezek

Still, i hope the fellers wil just aim for next weekend and let the rest take care of itself ;)
Go Hawks and Keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 07, 2015, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 07, 2015, 10:25:55 PM
Thanks jknezek

Still, i hope the fellers wil just aim for next weekend and let the rest take care of itself ;)
Go Hawks and Keep the faith

I feel the same way about my Generals. One more win!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 08, 2015, 03:07:09 PM
One other possible opponent if Hendrix wins the SAA and Guilford were to get a Pool C. According to TES, Huntingdon to Guilford - 496 miles.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 08, 2015, 03:19:50 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 08, 2015, 03:07:09 PM
One other possible opponent if Hendrix wins the SAA and Guilford were to get a Pool C. According to TES, Huntingdon to Guilford - 496 miles.

Yeah. There's a reason I wasn't including them. I hope it's a possibility, but reasonably? Not much.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 11, 2015, 05:17:47 PM
N.C. Wesleyan's Midgett is a servant and a leader.]   I hope all the members that post on this site read the article on Dustin Midgett. He is a fine young man who has grown to be an excellent quarterback for the Bishops. Only wish he had another year!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on November 13, 2015, 09:15:51 AM
Congrats to the Hawks for winning the USA-South Conference championship with a dominant 38-14 win over Maryville.  Went down to the game with my son, a Maryville grad, and saw an inspired, well-coached Huntingdon really controlling the game from start to finish.  Huntingdon's defense gave up some yards between the 20's, but the play-calling and turnovers in the red zone for the Scots really cost them the game.

Huntingdon really got better as the season progressed.  Their only close conference game was against N.C. Wesleyan in week #4.  The last 5 conference wins were really blowout victories.  On the other hand, except for Maryville's blowout win over Ferrum, the Scots barely beat Methodist, Averett and LaGrange.  All bottom conference teams.  The Scots really didn't get better as the season progressed. 

Sitting in the stands, one of the big conversations among the Scots fans is how Maryville had just fired their V.P. for Admissions/Financial Aid and also fired their Financial Aid Director.  It seems that Maryville was giving out way too much in financial aid to their students.

Back to football, really the 2nd best team in the conference is N.C. Wesleyan.  The Battling Bishops have gotten better as the season developed and have won 4 of the last 5 conference games.

So congrats to Coach Turk and the Hawks.  Hope you find great success in the playoffs.

BTW, LaGrange is 2-6 and according to "Ben Stein Fan" is a much better program.......
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on November 13, 2015, 12:52:45 PM
Panther Guy, I think you are right.  The young freshmen really grew up as the season progressed. The Bishops will honor their seniors Saturday, a grand total of 6. Looking forward to next season. Congrats to the Hawks and good luck in the future.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 13, 2015, 08:57:02 PM
Panther guy
I aint getting between you and Mr Stien's Friend, but from an uneducated observer... LaGrange was at the very least about the same when Coach Mooney was driving, and at the best much better with him. I was shocked they got rid of him. It was bizarre when all that happened. Lots of social media and news which was illogical. We live in Chambers Co, Al, which butts up to Troup Co (La Grange), Ga, so lots of rumors were heard.
LaGrange College is much closer to the farm than Huntingdon College, and that is where we wanted the boy (son) to go to school.The boy liked LaGrange Campus and the coaches, But he absolutely loved Huntingdon and Coach's Turk & Goodyear. The Boy graduated from HC in 2011 ;) so, this is all ancient history.

More importantly, the Hawks gotta play well against Averett tomorrow
keep the faith
Go Hawks

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 14, 2015, 05:17:55 PM
Congratulations to the Hawks on their win over Averitt University.
I pray the Cougars will have safe travels back to Danville.

Hope the Hawks can maintain this momentum into the playoffs.
Keep the faith  & Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 14, 2015, 07:00:08 PM
Quote from: Bishop64 on November 11, 2015, 05:17:47 PM
N.C. Wesleyan's Midgett is a servant and a leader.]   I hope all the members that post on this site read the article on Dustin Midgett. He is a fine young man who has grown to be an excellent quarterback for the Bishops. Only wish he had another year!
I read it.  Impressive young man.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on November 15, 2015, 09:53:02 PM
congrats to hc...good luck in the ncaa's...rep the conference well

long, tough season for mu - i can't remember a year off the top of my head when mu lost to averett, greensboro and ferrum in the same year - happy for the seniors to go out with a win...was hoping that jordan vann might get a chance to throw some passes in his last action in green & gold, but he did make a catch :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 19, 2015, 12:40:28 PM
I just want to welcome Huntingdon to the playoffs.
Much respect any school with 900 students standing at the forty with only a slingshot.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 19, 2015, 12:45:46 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 19, 2015, 12:40:28 PM
I just want to welcome Huntingdon to the playoffs.
Much respect any school with 900 students standing at the forty with only a slingshot.

Huntingdon is in a football rich area and the school has devoted resources to the program. The coach is excellent, the facility is very good, the school community and fan support has the home side stands packed. It's even a good tailgate environment. To be honest, I'm slightly surprised it took them this long to crack the USASAC, but they do have significant travel issues to overcome in the conference.

As does their opponent. This is one of the more intriguing match ups in the first round.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 19, 2015, 01:51:24 PM
Lots of Hawks on the USAC All Conference team plus other awards. Congrats to all.

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2015-16/releases/20151118ver15a

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 19, 2015, 01:55:34 PM
Weather forecast for Saturday in Montgomery, mostly sunny with a high of 67. Sounds like a glorious day for some playoff football. It should be a great game. Hoping the Hawks play like they are capable and get the win so we can see how we stack up against the guys from Texas next week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots Dad 92 on November 19, 2015, 02:17:14 PM
 This was my first year as a parent/fan  in the USA south conference.  Rooting for the Scott of course.  Also my first year really understanding and getting to know D3 football.  There is a lot more talent than most people would think.  I like the way the conference feels like a tightknit community.  I hope to return for at least three more years and enjoy this conference If not  Beyond that  as a fan.  I've enjoyed watching my freshman son playing all the games except for one that he did not travel (his own fault/Learning maturity).  I do think they need better spotters for the kids stats on defense. But nonetheless as a freshman I thought you had a great year especially in the Huntingdon game.
Congrats to the hawks for winning the conference  and making the playoffs. Good luck !!!  The scouts will be rooting for you !!!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 19, 2015, 07:56:40 PM
Welcome Scots Dad 92
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 19, 2015, 09:12:21 PM
welcome Scots Dad
D-3 folk are lots of fun and a good group
keep the faith and Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on November 20, 2015, 09:50:28 AM
Good luck this week!!!!!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 21, 2015, 06:52:21 PM
2 years in a row USAC wins opening round game. Is this real life??
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 21, 2015, 07:03:26 PM
Scots- We had ground level endzone seats ( lounge chairs ;) ), so it was hard to see everything, but we we very sloppy. We had 1 or 2 fumbles in the red zone that killed long Hawk drives and a endzone interception that killed another.

But still proud of the outcome
Saw Hawks 88, lots of folk we hadn't got to talk to in a while.
next week will be tough, but I hope the Hawks play better than today.
Keep the faith & Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 21, 2015, 07:30:30 PM
Good to see you today, DGP. It was a very exciting ball game. It thought we were going to be able breath a little easier when we were up 11 and driving early in the 4th but the interception in the endzone kept it pretty tense. The defense gave up a drive there but then did what they've been doing a lot lately it seems, giving up yards but then stiffening in the red zone and holding them to a FG attempt. It was a very quick game with few penalties and both teams running the ball well, I think it took less than 2 1/2 hours.
Looking forward to seeing how we stack up against UMHB next week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 21, 2015, 07:43:12 PM
I hope some of you will be able to make the trip - Crusader stadium is a wonderful place to watch a game.   Congratulations on today's win and good luck next week!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 21, 2015, 08:25:16 PM
Being off for Thanksgiving we are hoping to make the trip. There is a group trying to get a fan bus put together that we hope comes through. If not we will have to decide if we want to make that drive ourselves.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 21, 2015, 08:25:16 PM
Being off for Thanksgiving we are hoping to make the trip. There is a group trying to get a fan bus put together that we hope comes through. If not we will have to decide if we want to make that drive ourselves.
Montgomery to Selma to Uniontown to Demopolis to Cuba to I-20 to Abilene and you are there.  Very simple ;). 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 21, 2015, 09:01:22 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 21, 2015, 08:25:16 PM
Being off for Thanksgiving we are hoping to make the trip. There is a group trying to get a fan bus put together that we hope comes through. If not we will have to decide if we want to make that drive ourselves.
Montgomery to Selma to Uniontown to Demopolis to Cuba to I-20 to Abilene I-35(?) to Belton and you are there.  Very simple ;).
Either way, be sure and slow down when you go through Uniontown. ;)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GillCJ1 on November 22, 2015, 09:26:06 AM
Congrats on your first round win, Hawks.  Safe travels to those of you who will be making the trip out to Belton.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2015, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 21, 2015, 09:01:22 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 21, 2015, 08:25:16 PM
Being off for Thanksgiving we are hoping to make the trip. There is a group trying to get a fan bus put together that we hope comes through. If not we will have to decide if we want to make that drive ourselves.
Montgomery to Selma to Uniontown to Demopolis to Cuba to I-20 to Abilene I-35(?) to Belton and you are there.  Very simple ;).
Either way, be sure and slow down when you go through Uniontown. ;)     Ditto!!!
LOL!  I was sitting at lunch with my family today and remembered that the next round was not in Abilene!   LOL!   :o    ::)  ???  :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: umhb2001 on November 22, 2015, 09:26:14 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 21, 2015, 08:25:16 PM
Being off for Thanksgiving we are hoping to make the trip. There is a group trying to get a fan bus put together that we hope comes through. If not we will have to decide if we want to make that drive ourselves.
Montgomery to Selma to Uniontown to Demopolis to Cuba to I-20 to Abilene and you are there.  Very simple ;).
Abilene? The game is in Belton.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GillCJ1 on November 22, 2015, 09:51:52 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on November 22, 2015, 09:26:14 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 21, 2015, 08:25:16 PM
Being off for Thanksgiving we are hoping to make the trip. There is a group trying to get a fan bus put together that we hope comes through. If not we will have to decide if we want to make that drive ourselves.
Montgomery to Selma to Uniontown to Demopolis to Cuba to I-20 to Abilene and you are there.  Very simple ;).
Abilene? The game is in Belton.

Hawks88 and Ralph mentioned this in the following posts.

My wife and I should be back in town in time for the game.  We will be in Abilene, coincidentally, while we visit some family for the Thanksgiving holiday.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2015, 10:58:06 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on November 22, 2015, 09:26:14 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 21, 2015, 08:25:16 PM
Being off for Thanksgiving we are hoping to make the trip. There is a group trying to get a fan bus put together that we hope comes through. If not we will have to decide if we want to make that drive ourselves.
Montgomery to Selma to Uniontown to Demopolis to Cuba to I-20 to Abilene and you are there.  Very simple ;).
Abilene? The game is in Belton.
Sorry, brain burp!   :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 23, 2015, 10:33:38 AM
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I hope to see a team from Alabama win in November.

In case you were wondering where my loyalty resides...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV-X-R_HRSQ
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: umhb2001 on November 24, 2015, 12:30:56 PM
To any fans making the trip this weekend, welcome to Belton and Crusader stadium. If you need any ideas for places to eat or sleep, let me know. I'd be happy to help. Looking forward to seeing your team in action. Blessings!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 24, 2015, 02:58:26 PM
I have a daughter who lives in Alabama.

The natives in Lower Alabama (pronounced lowuh Alabamuh or just "LA") need some education on what is real barbecue.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GillCJ1 on November 24, 2015, 03:10:45 PM
I lived in Atlanta for 12 years, and enjoyed a brief stint in Mobile, AL for a seasonal contract job.  They have some good eats (Dreamland comes to mind), but BBQ is a whole different beast out here in TX.  That is one area that has lived up to the hype.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 24, 2015, 07:31:42 PM
ok, ok...i usually just read, and have chatted more recently than usual.BUT
A) Scots- I cant believe you said that.  :D thanks, Buddy & Keep the faith

B) Doc - you did a good job in pronouncing LA properly, but, they DO know BBQ

C) GillCJ1- if it aint hawg, it aint BBQ............aint a point in arguing, i'm right
  ;D

D) Be safe if yall head that way, I'm gonna stay home, move some hay, cut some wood, and feed some hawgs that will be used to make REAL BBQ ;)

We hope the Hawks play their best, the Cru are tough and are part of the D-3 E-light  ???
yall all have a wonderful Thanksgiving, keep the faith yall
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 24, 2015, 09:06:27 PM
I knew we could get a lively discussion on these boards if I mentioned BBQ.

Pork? Why, we have plenty of "organically grown" "pork" roaming east Texas.

No preservatives, no additives, only natural diet from range grown hogs and what they can rut out of the streams and hollows in east Texas woods...

LOL
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 24, 2015, 11:02:12 PM
Quote from: umhb2001 on November 24, 2015, 12:30:56 PM
To any fans making the trip this weekend, welcome to Belton and Crusader stadium. If you need any ideas for places to eat or sleep, let me know. I'd be happy to help. Looking forward to seeing your team in action. Blessings!
Well, it looks like the fan bus fell through so we will be gassing up the car and hitting the road ourselves. This will likely get us into town earlier than the bus would have with more freedom to roam about on our own so we will definitely welcome suggestions for places to have dinner Friday night.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Kelly Boggs on November 25, 2015, 09:37:38 AM
Hawks88,

If you want some real BBQ - Texas style, take in Miller's Smokehouse located on 208 N. Penelope in Belton. Make sure and order some Burnt-ends. Mmm, some kinda good!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: desertcat1 on November 25, 2015, 12:02:43 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Safe travels and Kelly is right on with BBQ.  :-*
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 25, 2015, 12:57:07 PM
Hawks
safe travels
keep the faith
Go Hawks

ps- i spent 2 yrs in tejas in the early 80's, the beef bbq is good ;)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 26, 2015, 03:52:52 PM
Keep Smiling Huntingdon.

No injujries!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 26, 2015, 07:03:24 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on November 26, 2015, 03:52:52 PM
Keep Smiling Huntingdon.

No injujries!
Huntingdon fans headed to Belton TX

Gasoline at the QT off I-20 exit 501 in Terrell TX (State Hwy 34) is selling for $1.439 a gallon.
If you take the Texas Hwy 31 shortcut thru Tyler TX, we have gas about $1.689 range.

Safe travels.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 26, 2015, 10:12:50 PM
We actually found a cheap flight the other night after finding out the fan bus fell through. Only condition is that we have to fly back out of Dallas Saturday night. Just hoping there are no major delays as far as the game is concerned to mess us up.

Latest forecast for Belton Saturday: Showers likely. Cloudy, with a steady temperature around 39. North wind around 15 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%.

Brrr. Have our long johns, under armour and rain suits wedged into our suitcases. Maybe we can stay relatively warm and dry.

Also happy to find out the team was able to get a charter from Montgomery straight into Killeen. Not having to bus to/from Atlanta and anywhere else is a big plus.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 27, 2015, 11:02:44 PM
Hawks
Be safe, stay warm, have fun
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 28, 2015, 05:56:03 PM
Safe travels back to Montgomery

Good luck to the Cru, hope they beat Linfield
Go Hawks and Keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 28, 2015, 06:55:16 PM
Congratulations to Huntingdon for the outstanding effort today.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: cover2 on November 28, 2015, 09:49:20 PM
Agreed Ralph.  I thought Huntingdon played well today and have a lot to build on.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: zipmac22 on November 28, 2015, 10:16:42 PM
Hats off to Huntingdon today! You came to play hard and came up a little short. The Huntingdon football program is pretty solid and will go much further in the playoffs in years to come.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DFWCrufan on November 28, 2015, 10:24:25 PM
I have to give kudos to Huntingdon, your players were well disciplined and really brought the game to town. This is proof your program is going in the right direction. Safe travels home..
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 29, 2015, 03:20:32 AM
Good to finally be home from a long and tiring two day trip. I thought our guys put on a good showing and really thought we were about to pull it off when we cut it to 6 at the beginning of the 4th. But then MHB went to that little option thing and we just didn't come up with an answer. Still feel good that the issue was in doubt well into the 4th on a cold miserable day.
As for the rest of the trip we didn't get to try the suggested Miller's Smokehouse as it was closed by the time we got into town Friday evening so we ended up at Schoepf's which we both thought was really good.
After the game we were able to stop off in West, Tx on our way back to DFW. One of my best friends growing up lives there and we were able have a good visit for an hour or so and watch part of the Iron Bowl before heading on to the airport where that 8:51 flight ended up leaving about 9:50.
Now I am going to go and sleep for most of the day before heading back to work on Monday.
Good luck to the Cru next week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: umhb2001 on November 29, 2015, 10:57:10 AM
Hawks looked great yesterday. They were energized and undaunted by their surroundings or opponent. A much tougher opponent in second rounds than we normally have, Huntingdon really showed their ability to do great things. Have a great offseason and good luck next year!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DFWCrufan on November 30, 2015, 04:16:30 PM
After watching the game again, Huntingdon, ya'll gained alot of respect, And a class act to boot.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on December 14, 2015, 10:06:26 AM
Just saw Ferrum's Harper had resigned.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on December 16, 2015, 01:34:33 PM
E&H's Rob Grande is new HC at Ferrum.

I was a junior when Coach I was let go at Maryville. Grande was one of the candidates called in to meet the team before Rader was ultimately hired. Finally in the USA South..
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on December 25, 2015, 11:34:59 AM
Merry Christmas to everyone in D3 land, keep the faith and Go Hawks  ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on December 25, 2015, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on December 25, 2015, 11:34:59 AM
Merry Christmas to everyone in D3 land, keep the faith and Go Hawks  ;D

Back at you this ridiculously warm Christmas morning in AL
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on December 25, 2015, 02:55:27 PM
Quote from: jknezek on December 25, 2015, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on December 25, 2015, 11:34:59 AM
Merry Christmas to everyone in D3 land, keep the faith and Go Hawks  ;D

Back at you this ridiculously warm Christmas morning in AL
Merry Christmas to my fellow Alabama and USAC
posters. It hit 80 here in Gordo a little while ago.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on December 25, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
Hawks and jknezek

we are nearly washed out in Waverly, oddly warm, but safe. :D

Yall keep the dfaith, stay safe
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on December 26, 2015, 02:53:44 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on December 25, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
Hawks and jknezek

we are nearly washed out in Waverly, oddly warm, but safe. :D

Yall keep the dfaith, stay safe
Go Hawks

My house is good. Whoever built it did a nice job of routing water around it as it comes off the high spots. Neighborhood looks ok but was nosing around highway 119 not far away and a lot of water up above doorsteps. You all stay safe and dry.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 01, 2016, 12:38:22 PM
CJ Goss resigned his post at Methodist. Narch, what happened? Any insight?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on April 04, 2016, 03:13:17 PM
Finally pieced together the 2016 schedule for MC. Conference games, at Berry, EHC at home, and.......at Hanover. Not sure what to think of it. Hopefully it's just for this year and we pick up another game from the SAA or ODAC.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 04, 2016, 04:01:30 PM
Yep -- what we have on the site is what we know. A lot of USA South teams have not posted schedules yet.

http://www.d3football.com/teams/Maryville_(Tenn.)/2016/index
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on April 04, 2016, 04:41:20 PM
I had a good idea about 9 of 10 this year. I spent a good 2 hours the other day looking up other South Region team's schedules to see if MC was on it. Berry and E&H are shoe in's for the years to come.

Playing a team like Hanover at Hanover is the price to pay for playing up a division/having a fluke game breaking up home and home series I guess. (It wasn't long ago since MC found itself in Hanover's current position. I hope that didn't come off belittling.)

Oh well. I guess I'll have to visit Hoosierland in September.



Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 05, 2016, 08:49:31 AM
Huntingdon's schedule is pretty much the same as last year but with the home and away swapped. The only difference is Belhaven moved from week 4 to week 3 with the open date going from week 3 to week 4. I believe I was told that we are locked in to LC and BSC for the first two games for the near future and Belhaven drops off next year to make room for Brevard.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on April 05, 2016, 08:55:42 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on April 05, 2016, 08:49:31 AM
Huntingdon's schedule is pretty much the same as last year but with the home and away swapped. The only difference is Belhaven moved from week 4 to week 3 with the open date going from week 3 to week 4. I believe I was told that we are locked in to LC and BSC for the first two games for the near future and Belhaven drops off next year to make room for Brevard.

I'm just glad the BSC-HC games are back. The year or two those went missing was inexplicable to me. There are 2 D3 teams in AL. That should be a natural OOC rivalry!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 05, 2016, 04:51:38 PM
Looks like the USAC is adding two more schools in '17. NAIA's Berea (KY) and D2's Pfeiffer (NC). I think that makes the total to 18 in '18. 9 will be football schools with Brevard (NC) jumping down to D3. Berea and Pfeiffer don't field a football team (that I'm aware of).

Any thoughts on this? Too much, too few, just right? Will the conference start sponsoring more sports? Will the "require" the members to add more sports (like LAX, field hockey, track)?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 06, 2016, 06:20:28 PM
Greensboro only shows a 9-game schedule.  Is that it or are they still trying to find a game for one of the two open dates on 10-Sept and 24-Sept?  I think they played Bridgewater (VA) the 2nd week in 2015, but the Eagles have Thomas More lined up for 2016.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on May 06, 2016, 06:48:48 PM
Quote from: hasanova on May 06, 2016, 06:20:28 PM
Greensboro only shows a 9-game schedule.  Is that it or are they still trying to find a game for one of the two open dates on 10-Sept and 24-Sept?  I think they played Bridgewater (VA) the 2nd week in 2015, but the Eagles have Thomas More lined up for 2016.

  Yowza! That's a pretty extreme upgrade.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on May 07, 2016, 12:00:14 PM
18 teams seems like too many for sports which all 18 field. In basketball, for instance, some teams, especially in different divisions, will not play each other until the conference tournament.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 07, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on May 06, 2016, 06:48:48 PM
Quote from: hasanova on May 06, 2016, 06:20:28 PM
Greensboro only shows a 9-game schedule.  Is that it or are they still trying to find a game for one of the two open dates on 10-Sept and 24-Sept?  I think they played Bridgewater (VA) the 2nd week in 2015, but the Eagles have Thomas More lined up for 2016.

  Yowza! That's a pretty extreme upgrade.
You're right ... it will be interesting to see the score!  I think the only saving grace may be it's a home game for the Eagles.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 08, 2016, 07:38:51 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on May 07, 2016, 12:00:14 PM
18 teams seems like too many for sports which all 18 field. In basketball, for instance, some teams, especially in different divisions, will not play each other until the conference tournament.

I agree with this. That is a huge number. I think some of the ODAC women's sports are stuffed, but 18 is more than any of them. But, if it gets you an AQ in other sports it can be a trade off worth making. I like the Brevard and Pfeiffer pick ups for the conference. Berea makes for a lot of 300-400 mile road trips. That's quite a haul to do on a regular basis. Love Berea as a college, not sure I love them as a USASAC member.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on May 09, 2016, 09:59:45 AM
Maryville is the only USASouth school close to Berea.  I can not imagine what the league Presidents were thinking. I assume they know about travel budgets and time spent on busses....
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 09, 2016, 10:29:51 AM
Quote from: scottiedoug on May 09, 2016, 09:59:45 AM
Maryville is the only USASouth school close to Berea.  I can not imagine what the league Presidents were thinking. I assume they know about travel budgets and time spent on busses....

Not the first time the USASouth reached for a school. CNU to Huntingdon was one of the longest conference trips in DIII football. Didn't last long of course. But yeah, not sure I get the Berea move, but I don't really know what they might bring either. Brevard and Pfieffer are great. There is now a nice Northern grouping with the VA/NC/TN schools, and a southern grouping with the GA/Huntingdon grouping.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 09, 2016, 05:11:48 PM
Berea made the move to D-3 from the NAIA for definite reasons.

Perhaps they landed in the USA South because the 8-team SAA wasn't the match that they wanted or vice versa (Centre might have some insight on this).

Berea is not a member of the Associated Colleges of the South.

The Heartland CAC may not have been right for them.

Why does the ODAC need them?

The Presidents AC really doesn't "need" Thomas More to get "keep" the Football AQ anymore. Do they need TMC for anything else? Why add another  KY school?

It is kinda, "who is left"?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 10, 2016, 11:16:11 AM
I have no issues with Berea as a school, but the USA South needs to get off this kick off their "Oh, you want to move to D3? Here's your membership!" movement we've seen.
As mentioned, travel time is going to be terrible. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear grumbling out of administrations in a few years.

By the way, here's something interesting after looking at a map:
Berea to Ferrum, 340 miles 6:12 (240 "as the crow flies")
Berea to Huntingdon, 476 miles 6:54 (377 "as the crow flies")
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 10, 2016, 11:30:19 AM
My last post got me thinking about the 2016 and distances between schools, so for your off season viewing pleasure:

at Berry (168 mi., 2:48)
at Hanover (276 mi., 4:37)
vs. E&H (154 mi., 2:24)
at Methodist (394 mi., 6:17)
vs. NCWC (435 mi., 6:67)
at Ferrum (278 mi., 4:38)
vs. Averrett (319 mi., 5:13)
at LaGrange (283 mi., 4:16)
vs. Huntingdon (350 mi., 5:08)
at Greensboro (302 mi., 4:43)

and for future schedules, Brevard is 156 miles; 2:41 from Maryville
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 10, 2016, 12:37:40 PM
Definitely a disadvantage of the USAS. Contrast that with this from W&L:

OOC
At JHU               229 miles, 3:47
At Sewanee       461 miles, 7:00
home CMS        yeah, that's a flight across country....

home E&H        167 miles, 2:34
at Catholic         197 miles, 3:17
at Guilford         151 miles, 2:47
home H-SC        91 miles, 1:52
home RMC         154 miles, 2:11
at Bwater           56 miles, 0:58
home Shenandoah 127 miles, 1:58

W&L's only opponents over 200 miles are the 3 OOC games. Other than DC traffic, they don't have a 3 hour bus ride in conference, so I don't think they do an overnight besides one or two OOC games a year. M'Ville doesn't have a conference bus ride under 4 hours until Brevard joins. To be fair, W&L is pretty close to the center of the ODAC, and Catholic/Shenandoah, Guilford/E&H have much worse driving times. But M'ville is pretty much center of the USAS also. The times from Lagrange and Huntingdon to Ferrum/Averett/NCWC are atrocious.

For football this isn't the end of the world, one weekend game a week, but I don't know how these young people do it for mid-week athletic contests. In some sports that are jammed up I expect the USAS to break into two divisions with minimal overlap besides the tournament. A northern part and a southern part. And then just stay merged where they need to create the geographic hodgepodge to keep an AQ.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 10, 2016, 12:54:12 PM
Here's something to think about:


M'Ville in USAS  sorted by distance 
at Ferrum (278 mi., 4:38)
at LaGrange (283 mi., 4:16)
at Greensboro (302 mi., 4:43)
vs. Averrett (319 mi., 5:13)
vs. Huntingdon (350 mi., 5:08)
at Methodist (394 mi., 6:17)
vs. NCWC (435 mi., 6:57)


M'Ville hypothetically in ODAC, sorted by distance (after Catholic leaves)
E&H (154, 2:24)
Guilford (297, 4:37)
W&L (319, 4:51)
H-SC (359, 5:52)
Bwater (369, 5:30)
Shenandoah (440, 6:32)
RMC (447, 6:42)

For football, at least, the USAS is a better fit for travel than the ODAC for M'Ville. As crappy as the distances are, they could be worse. In fact it gets much worse if you add in the other sports. The NW Georgia and Atlanta schools which are 3-3.5 hours from M'Ville versus schools like EMU and Randolph which are 4-6 hours at least. Let alone VWC which is 544, 8:01!



Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 10, 2016, 01:44:43 PM
Shenandoah was USAC when I was at MC. The route seemed like 4 turns, but 99.99% was I-81. Long and boring on a bus.

VWC is a little longer than the CNU trip from Maryville, but when you get over 450 miles, it's all the same. Your point of one weekend game vs. multiple week games is spot on.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on May 10, 2016, 05:07:42 PM
A major factor in Maryville's leaving the ODAC was travel distances.  It has been quite a struggle since then, until lately, and now it seems to be trending back to struggle.  Maybe not for football, but for some sports it is a mess.  Part of the point of D3 is to have athletes be students.

Administrators already are grumbling. Splitting into two divisions that are themselves big enough for a conference will mean that many teams do not play each other except in tournaments.  It is hard to build rivalries that way, or to know who is "out there" even in your own conference.

I am not sure college presidents are listening to their athletic directors.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 11, 2016, 09:02:45 AM
There is no doubt that low density areas of the country for DIII, the SE, SW, Rocky Mountain states, and many of the flyover states, are problematic. I think the SE is getting better. At the rate of DIII additions I can see there being enough density for the USAS to split into two better fit geographic conferences in the relatively near future. For certain sports like football and lacrosse you might have to stay combined, but for high participation sports like soccer, basketball, T&F, etc I think it won't take too much more before it gets better.

Personally I think the NAIA is dying in certain geographies. Mainly those areas where DIII is already strong. For schools with any kind of academic accountability in their athletic admissions, I think DIII will be very attractive. The NAIA's attempt to form a clearinghouse is limiting the appeal of their wild, wild west admissions for many schools, and closing the gap with the NCAA model, making it less interesting as a stand alone.

While I think there are certain geographies where NAIA will continue to do well because they have the density DII/DIII lack, I'm looking at the flyover states and the SW especially, in areas where DIII or DII are growing I believe you will keep seeing defections and I think this describes the SE. There are a bunch of NAIA schools in MS, AL, a pair in NC, and a ton in TN, SC and GA. A few more defections in the TN/GA area, especially, will allow another DIII conference in the SE and schools to realign geographically.

If I was the northern part of the USAS I would be calling a few of the TN, both NC schools and the lone VA holdout to see if their athletics match up. If I was the southern grouping, I'd be looking at the GA, MS and one or two of the AL schools. That would solve the problem pretty efficiently.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 11, 2016, 10:13:39 AM
Adding to your point of NAIA in the SE, when it comes to football you see a split between really good teams to really poor teams with just a few landing in the middle. University of the Cumberlands in SE KY has been pretty good lately, playing in the Nat'l championship game a few years back. They played Carson-Newman (D2, TN), who is pretty good in their own right, to a tight game last year.

Most of the football NAIA schools in the SE would probably be a better athletic fit for D3, while a few could transition to D2 fairly easily. Carson-Newman was NAIA back in the day and made the move to D2.

Here are two VA examples:
UVA-Wise moved from NAIA to D2 a couple years ago and have been 2-9, 2-9, 1-9. Their last year in NAIA (2012) they were 3-8.
Bluefield is NAIA and since 2012 have been 1-10, 3-8, 0-11, 0-11.
Bottom line: Either handing out partial scholarships is the only way to get kids on campus, or the schools have money to burn in athletics.

Last thing:
Maryville and E&H both beat FCS start-(back)-up East Tenn State last year. Non-scholarship vs. scholarship, granted they were pups. ETSU won 2 games last year: NAIA's Warner 42-9 and D2's Kentucky Wesleyan 42-27. KWC has been NAIA, D2, and at one point D3. That tells me some schools need to drop the scholarship athlete dream. Warner needs to be FL's 1st D3 school and KWC needs to go the Brevard route (UVA Wise too).
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 11, 2016, 10:35:10 AM
I wouldn't recommend any FL schools go DIII. Especially Warner in Lake Wales. FL is huge north to south. Lake Wales is almost 500 miles from Atlanta. Huntingdon might be the closest DIII football school at just over 500 miles and 8 hours. There is no way any schools in FL can go DIII unless they get enough to form a conference all at once.

As someone who once a year drives in a motor home from Birmingham to the Okeechobee area I can tell you a bus from a school in FL to a school out of FL would be a tortuously long and expensive. Even worse than many of the TX schools except perhaps Sul Ross State.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 11, 2016, 12:01:15 PM
True. Don't know why I didn't think of travel time given the 15 minutes I wasted at the office yesterday on Google maps.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 13, 2016, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on May 10, 2016, 11:30:19 AM
My last post got me thinking about the 2016 and distances between schools, so for your off season viewing pleasure:

at Berry (168 mi., 2:48)
at Hanover (276 mi., 4:37)
vs. E&H (154 mi., 2:24)
at Methodist (394 mi., 6:17)
vs. NCWC (435 mi., 6:67)
at Ferrum (278 mi., 4:38)
vs. Averrett (319 mi., 5:13)
at LaGrange (283 mi., 4:16)
vs. Huntingdon (350 mi., 5:08)
at Greensboro (302 mi., 4:43)

and for future schedules, Brevard is 156 miles; 2:41 from Maryville
Kinda like ASC distances and Sul Ross State is 300 miles west of Abilene where you have McMurry and HSU and 300 miles west of Brownwood where you have Howard Payne. Belhaven is about 280 miies east of ETBU in Marshall.

But that is what it takes to have a football program in Texas.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on May 14, 2016, 10:24:48 AM
And the idea of not having football in Texas is unlikely to become the latest craze in the state....
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: gordonmann on May 15, 2016, 05:10:46 PM
It's not a football story per se, but this board may have more activity than the basketball boards. I interviewed Conference Commissioner Rita Wiggs about the conference's expansion.

www.d3hoops.com/notables/2016/05/usa-south-expansion-Q-A

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 16, 2016, 02:30:58 PM
Averett announced the addition of men's and women's lacrosse and wrestling on Friday for the 2017(?) academic year. Hopefully that gets some other schools looking to add more sports (Looking at you, Maryville).

I'm assuming lacrosse could add 20-35 more students to enrollment on the men's and women's side. Ferrum's wrestling roster is in the 30 range and Huntingdon's is closer to 15. MC use to have a wrestling program back  in the day and I heard they were pretty good.

I would think having 75+ additional students on campus would help offset the costs of these programs.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on May 17, 2016, 10:20:29 AM
I do know that there are people in the AD leadership who agree with you, Scots13!

Wrestling in the 1960s was quite successful...competed in the SEC and wrestled Auburn, U. of Ga, etc and beat them.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 17, 2016, 12:24:26 PM
There are enough high school wrestling programs within a 200 mile radius from MC to build a successful program. I played with a few guys at MC that were state qualifiers that wanted to have a wrestling team while at MC.
Lacrosse is apparently the fastest growing sport in the US, or so I've been told. I'm not sure how many high school programs there are in the immediate area, but there has to be enough talent out there that can't play at a Duke or Notre Dame.

It can be done.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 17, 2016, 04:03:25 PM
I'm just happy to see wrestling programs being added at any level. It's been a long couple decades for NCAA wrestling. At the DI level the sport has been brutalized. W&L has to compete in a bastardized Centennial Conference for wrestling, with long trips to NYC, just to find enough meets. Hopefully MC and others will add in the SE and Virginia area. Seems to be trending that way again, finally!

As for lacrosse, it depends on how you measure fastest growing but the last time I saw numbers by team sport it wasn't unanimous. By percentage it was actually rugby, but they are starting from such a low number the actual growth of participants isn't anywhere near lacrosse. I'll let them duke it out for how to define it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 17, 2016, 04:37:00 PM
Quote from: jknezek on May 17, 2016, 04:03:25 PM
I'm just happy to see wrestling programs being added at any level. It's been a long couple decades for NCAA wrestling. At the DI level the sport has been brutalized. W&L has to compete in a bastardized Centennial Conference for wrestling, with long trips to NYC, just to find enough meets. Hopefully MC and others will add in the SE and Virginia area. Seems to be trending that way again, finally!

As for lacrosse, it depends on how you measure fastest growing but the last time I saw numbers by team sport it wasn't unanimous. By percentage it was actually rugby, but they are starting from such a low number the actual growth of participants isn't anywhere near lacrosse. I'll let them duke it out for how to define it.

+1 on the rugby. I was thinking it was lacrosse because the tourney has been on the tube, but it was a rugby commercial I saw it on.

Good call.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on May 18, 2016, 11:33:13 AM
Wrestling does not require a field and grass and mowing...a mat will do it.  As for lacrosse, it could help Maryville recruit more students from states to the east and north, which I think is a good idea.  MC would benefit from more geographic variety.  Just an opinion....
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 18, 2016, 12:01:21 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on May 18, 2016, 11:33:13 AM
Wrestling does not require a field and grass and mowing...a mat will do it.

I think this is a great point. It's also why I believe baseball and softball are the hardest sports to add. Those are purpose built facilities with no other use. Lacrosse, football, soccer, field hockey, all the same synthetic turf field. Add a track and a few jumping pits and outdoor T&F is in the same facility as well. W&L added field hockey and women's golf in the last 20 years, the only ODAC sport they don't participate in is softball. I feel it is coming, but I also feel the reason it hasn't happened already is the otherwise useless expense of building and maintaining a softball diamond.

I also think it's a reason softball is particularly vulnerable to the Olympics (and was cut recently). It's not particularly global, and it is one more white elephant facility that has limited benefit after the games in many countries.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on May 18, 2016, 02:55:52 PM
Quote from: jknezek on May 18, 2016, 12:01:21 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on May 18, 2016, 11:33:13 AM
Wrestling does not require a field and grass and mowing...a mat will do it.

I think this is a great point. It's also why I believe baseball and softball are the hardest sports to add. Those are purpose built facilities with no other use. Lacrosse, football, soccer, field hockey, all the same synthetic turf field. Add a track and a few jumping pits and outdoor T&F is in the same facility as well. W&L added field hockey and women's golf in the last 20 years, the only ODAC sport they don't participate in is softball. I feel it is coming, but I also feel the reason it hasn't happened already is the otherwise useless expense of building and maintaining a softball diamond.

I also think it's a reason softball is particularly vulnerable to the Olympics (and was cut recently). It's not particularly global, and it is one more white elephant facility that has limited benefit after the games in many countries.

I think their $1.5 BBBBBBBBBBBBillion endowment can handle a softball field.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 18, 2016, 03:13:27 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on May 18, 2016, 02:55:52 PM
Quote from: jknezek on May 18, 2016, 12:01:21 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on May 18, 2016, 11:33:13 AM
Wrestling does not require a field and grass and mowing...a mat will do it.

I think this is a great point. It's also why I believe baseball and softball are the hardest sports to add. Those are purpose built facilities with no other use. Lacrosse, football, soccer, field hockey, all the same synthetic turf field. Add a track and a few jumping pits and outdoor T&F is in the same facility as well. W&L added field hockey and women's golf in the last 20 years, the only ODAC sport they don't participate in is softball. I feel it is coming, but I also feel the reason it hasn't happened already is the otherwise useless expense of building and maintaining a softball diamond.

I also think it's a reason softball is particularly vulnerable to the Olympics (and was cut recently). It's not particularly global, and it is one more white elephant facility that has limited benefit after the games in many countries.

I think their $1.5 BBBBBBBBBBBBillion endowment can handle a softball field.

Of course it can. The debate is whether it should. The last master plan had a space marked out for one, leading me to believe it is coming sometime after the current significant construction wraps up. But in general I find softball and baseball to be very expensive because the facilities are dead space for so much of the year.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 18, 2016, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on May 18, 2016, 11:33:13 AM
Wrestling does not require a field and grass and mowing...a mat will do it.  As for lacrosse, it could help Maryville recruit more students from states to the east and north, which I think is a good idea.  MC would benefit from more geographic variety.  Just an opinion....

Let's start a petition, scottiedoug. JK, you're welcome to join in to help W&L's wrestling program out.

What other USAC/ODAC schools have wrestling programs other than Ferrum, Huntingdon and W&L?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 18, 2016, 05:20:02 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on May 18, 2016, 11:33:13 AM
Wrestling does not require a field and grass and mowing...a mat will do it.  As for lacrosse, it could help Maryville recruit more students from states to the east and north, which I think is a good idea.  MC would benefit from more geographic variety.  Just an opinion....

Punto muy excellente, there amigo. Football recruiting has stretched into TX, a few more AL kids, and kids from CO, CA, and NC. I heard a kid from Arkansas committed this year. SE, SW and stretching into the West. We need some Yankees to come down to the Promised Land.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 18, 2016, 08:33:05 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on May 18, 2016, 05:14:28 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on May 18, 2016, 11:33:13 AM
Wrestling does not require a field and grass and mowing...a mat will do it.  As for lacrosse, it could help Maryville recruit more students from states to the east and north, which I think is a good idea.  MC would benefit from more geographic variety.  Just an opinion....

Let's start a petition, scottiedoug. JK, you're welcome to join in to help W&L's wrestling program out.

What other USAC/ODAC schools have wrestling programs other than Ferrum, Huntingdon and W&L?

HSC is the only other ODAC school I know of. Greensboro has a team. Southern Virginia has a second year team that is affiliated with the USASAC I think.

You can get the complete list of DIII wrestling schools here:

http://web1.ncaa.org/onlineDir/exec2/sponsorship?sortOrder=5&division=3&sport=MWR
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 18, 2016, 09:55:33 PM
Just found a presentation apparently given to HSC in 2013 regarding wrestling. Aside from coach's salary, start up cost is around $20k. It's a pdf- if you want to take a look Google "cost of college wrestling programs" and it's half way down the first page.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on May 19, 2016, 04:42:30 PM
Maryville was pretty interesting back when there were lots of students from New Jersey.  It was a shock to some of us that white people had different ideas about things!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 19, 2016, 05:04:21 PM
I would be more shocked if you said people from Pennsylvania or Maine or Maryland or Ohio. People from NJ are their own special beings (re: MTV's Jersey Shore)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on May 25, 2016, 05:51:09 PM
Quote from: hasanova on May 06, 2016, 06:20:28 PM
Greensboro only shows a 9-game schedule.  Is that it or are they still trying to find a game for one of the two open dates on 10-Sept and 24-Sept?  I think they played Bridgewater (VA) the 2nd week in 2015, but the Eagles have Thomas More lined up for 2016.
Greensboro added NNA on September 10 ... so a 10-game schedule.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 29, 2016, 10:52:01 AM
Huntingdon will be hosting the USA South Football Media Day on August 1 at 11 AM.

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2016-17/releases/20160627n0cj3b
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 11, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 29, 2016, 10:52:01 AM
Huntingdon will be hosting the USA South Football Media Day on August 1 at 11 AM.

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2016-17/releases/20160627n0cj3b

It's about that time again.

Any insights from around the league going into the fall? MC loses some key players, but they have the right guys to step in. Specifically Nick Myers in at QB for Evan Pittenger (who is playing in Austria). Myers has the experience to lead the offense in the right direction. Full faith in the lefty. The line on both sides of the ball lose a couple big time performers as well as the secondary and LB corps. 5 of the top 10 tacklers from last year's team graduated. Trenton Shuler will be back after his battle with staph last year along with Whitlock, Chenier, and Rokins to build on the 2574 yards MC had on the ground last year.

Sleeper for 2016: NC Wesleyan. 5-5 in 2015, only 8 points away from 7-3 and 7-0 in conference play. Maryville was the only game their defense gave up less than 20 points. If they find a consistent D, then they have a play at the conference.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HansenRatings on July 12, 2016, 05:22:06 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on July 11, 2016, 01:38:14 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 29, 2016, 10:52:01 AM
Huntingdon will be hosting the USA South Football Media Day on August 1 at 11 AM.

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2016-17/releases/20160627n0cj3b (http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2016-17/releases/20160627n0cj3b)

It's about that time again.

Any insights from around the league going into the fall? MC loses some key players, but they have the right guys to step in. Specifically Nick Myers in at QB for Evan Pittenger (who is playing in Austria). Myers has the experience to lead the offense in the right direction. Full faith in the lefty. The line on both sides of the ball lose a couple big time performers as well as the secondary and LB corps. 5 of the top 10 tacklers from last year's team graduated. Trenton Shuler will be back after his battle with staph last year along with Whitlock, Chenier, and Rokins to build on the 2574 yards MC had on the ground last year.

Sleeper for 2016: NC Wesleyan. 5-5 in 2015, only 8 points away from 7-3 and 7-0 in conference play. Maryville was the only game their defense gave up less than 20 points. If they find a consistent D, then they have a play at the conference.

Outsider looking in here, but my projected conference records (for now, I will update my ratings when I can get my hands on returning starter data from Kickoff) are:




TeamWinsLosses
Huntingdon6.20.8

Maryville		5.31.7

NC Wesleyan		4.32.7

Methodist		3.93.1

Averett		2.34.7

LaGrange		2.34.7

Ferrum		2.14.9

Greensboro		1.55.5

NC Wesleyan seems like a good darkhorse pick to me.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 02, 2016, 08:42:25 AM
Huntingdon picked #1 in USA-South pre-season coaches poll.

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2016-17/releases/20160801qwhiny
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 02, 2016, 08:53:26 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 02, 2016, 08:42:25 AM
Huntingdon picked #1 in USA-South pre-season coaches poll.

http://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2016-17/releases/20160801qwhiny

Looked like Huntingdon put on a good show yesterday. One of these days I'll make my way down there and walk around the non-football related parts of campus.

1, 2, 3 went as expected. Good news for MC this year is HC and NCWC are home games. Let's see if we can get the monkey off our back and finally beat Turk & Co.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 18, 2016, 01:53:09 PM
MC's usual scrimmage with BSC has been cancelled and MC has picked up Virginia-Lynchburg for this Saturday. Don't know what's going on with MC and BSC, but good luck to BSC this year.

Don't know much about VUL other than they lost big to Wesley a few years back and they're a small HBCU in Lynchburg VA. I can't even find a 2016 schedule for them...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 18, 2016, 02:10:44 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 18, 2016, 01:53:09 PM
MC's usual scrimmage with BSC has been cancelled and MC has picked up Virginia-Lynchburg for this Saturday. Don't know what's going on with MC and BSC, but good luck to BSC this year.

Don't know much about VUL other than they lost big to Wesley a few years back and they're a small HBCU in Lynchburg VA. I can't even find a 2016 schedule for them...

I remember some of the Wesley guys talking about their huge lines, but that they couldn't move at all. Now it was Wesley, so you always have to consider where they are coming from, but I think VUL is probably not very good.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 18, 2016, 02:50:30 PM
I think you might be right on that.

My brother texted me and said "MC is scrimmaging Lynchburg, not BSC." I thought Lynchburg College might have done a good job at hiding a start up JV team. I was kinda excited for the ODAC-could've solved the '17 headache coming!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 18, 2016, 02:55:42 PM
We aren't going to be that lucky
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 19, 2016, 11:26:45 AM
On Twitter this morning...
"@VULFootball : The conclusion of camp is today Dragons! Scrimmage against Maryville College(D3) tomorrow should be a breeze and a learning day. Let's go!"

Shots fired at D3 already this year?  ::)

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 19, 2016, 12:33:43 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 19, 2016, 11:26:45 AM
On Twitter this morning...
"@VULFootball : The conclusion of camp is today Dragons! Scrimmage against Maryville College(D3) tomorrow should be a breeze and a learning day. Let's go!"

Shots fired at D3 already this year?  ::)
I need help with this from an AD or SID perspective.

I did not think that there could be any formal press notification for scrimmages in D-3, but then VUL is NAIA.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 19, 2016, 12:51:20 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 19, 2016, 12:33:43 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 19, 2016, 11:26:45 AM
On Twitter this morning...
"@VULFootball : The conclusion of camp is today Dragons! Scrimmage against Maryville College(D3) tomorrow should be a breeze and a learning day. Let's go!"

Shots fired at D3 already this year?  ::)
I need help with this from an AD or SID perspective.

I did not think that there could be any formal press notification for scrimmages in D-3, but then VUL is NAIA.

I don't even think they are that. I went to NAIA's website and saw no mention of them. I've seen web articles mentioning USCAA, but their website has nada. VUL might be off the grid big-time. Hell, I've lived an hour from Lynchburg for the better part of two decades and this is the first time I've heard of VUL.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 19, 2016, 01:31:44 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 19, 2016, 12:51:20 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 19, 2016, 12:33:43 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 19, 2016, 11:26:45 AM
On Twitter this morning...
"@VULFootball : The conclusion of camp is today Dragons! Scrimmage against Maryville College(D3) tomorrow should be a breeze and a learning day. Let's go!"

Shots fired at D3 already this year?  ::)
I need help with this from an AD or SID perspective.

I did not think that there could be any formal press notification for scrimmages in D-3, but then VUL is NAIA.

I don't even think they are that. I went to NAIA's website and saw no mention of them. I've seen web articles mentioning USCAA, but their website has nada. VUL might be off the grid big-time. Hell, I've lived an hour from Lynchburg for the better part of two decades and this is the first time I've heard of VUL.

They were lumped in with the Colleges of Faith and University of Faith, among others, as non-countable by the NCAA last year because they didn't meet accreditation and/or membership qualifications. The teams that had scheduled these teams had to scramble to find real games to replace them as any stats for games played against them wouldn't count. I don't know if the list is updated this year.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 19, 2016, 11:38:21 PM
The restriction on publicizing scrimmages in D-III was revoked. It's fair game now.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 20, 2016, 07:26:40 PM
I heard MC put the defensive beat down on VUL today. Apparently a shut out with several forced turnovers and (again, what I heard...) 12 sacks. I wish BSC was the opponent today instead of whatever was on the field.
Offense showed signs of life, but with only 6 practices and 2 in full pads, timing will come. More than a handful of missed opportunities for big plays.
Early word going around is this year's freshman class might be the best MC has had. I guess we will find out in 2 weeks at Berry.

Any other scrimmages today? Berry and HC again this year?

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 22, 2016, 09:08:24 AM
HC did have a scrimmage at Berry Saturday night. That's about all I can tell you though. I had headed to the west side of Alabama for one last family visit before the season starts and didn't get to make the trip. Haven't heard anything about how it went.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 22, 2016, 09:15:41 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 22, 2016, 09:08:24 AM
HC did have a scrimmage at Berry Saturday night. That's about all I can tell you though. I had headed to the west side of Alabama for one last family visit before the season starts and didn't get to make the trip. Haven't heard anything about how it went.

Berry has me feeling some type of way. On one hand they will be a team full of seniors that went 7-3 last year, and on the other they are a team that MC slapped around Week 1 last year with a team full of juniors. Do they just start slow out of camp, or do we have their number like the Hawks have MC's?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 26, 2016, 09:25:05 AM
Please keep the city of Maryville in your thoughts and prayers. Maryville PD lost a police officer yesterday responding to a call.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 27, 2016, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 20, 2016, 07:26:40 PM
I heard MC put the defensive beat down on VUL today. Apparently a shut out with several forced turnovers and (again, what I heard...) 12 sacks. I wish BSC was the opponent today instead of whatever was on the field.
Offense showed signs of life, but with only 6 practices and 2 in full pads, timing will come. More than a handful of missed opportunities for big plays.
Early word going around is this year's freshman class might be the best MC has had. I guess we will find out in 2 weeks at Berry.

Any other scrimmages today? Berry and HC again this year?
Don't get overly hyped about a good performance against VUL ... to be kind, they probably aren't very good based on facilities and past record.  Not sure how they can even field a team to be honest.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 27, 2016, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 27, 2016, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 20, 2016, 07:26:40 PM
I heard MC put the defensive beat down on VUL today. Apparently a shut out with several forced turnovers and (again, what I heard...) 12 sacks. I wish BSC was the opponent today instead of whatever was on the field.
Offense showed signs of life, but with only 6 practices and 2 in full pads, timing will come. More than a handful of missed opportunities for big plays.
Early word going around is this year's freshman class might be the best MC has had. I guess we will find out in 2 weeks at Berry.

Any other scrimmages today? Berry and HC again this year?
Don't get overly hyped about a good performance against VUL ... to be kind, they probably aren't very good based on facilities and past record.  Not sure how they can even field a team to be honest.

Yeah I know. 3 reasons for my excitement:
1. It's nearly September
2. MC lost a lot of production on defense due to graduation or kids not coming back
3. I was hoping someone involved with VUL would wander on the board and read it. I'm assuming the coaching staff runs the VUL football Twitter feed-- they basically called out D3 football and said the scrimmage would be a breeze.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 27, 2016, 10:20:31 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 27, 2016, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 27, 2016, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 20, 2016, 07:26:40 PM
I heard MC put the defensive beat down on VUL today. Apparently a shut out with several forced turnovers and (again, what I heard...) 12 sacks. I wish BSC was the opponent today instead of whatever was on the field.
Offense showed signs of life, but with only 6 practices and 2 in full pads, timing will come. More than a handful of missed opportunities for big plays.
Early word going around is this year's freshman class might be the best MC has had. I guess we will find out in 2 weeks at Berry.

Any other scrimmages today? Berry and HC again this year?
Don't get overly hyped about a good performance against VUL ... to be kind, they probably aren't very good based on facilities and past record.  Not sure how they can even field a team to be honest.

Yeah I know. 3 reasons for my excitement:
1. It's nearly September
2. MC lost a lot of production on defense due to graduation or kids not coming back
3. I was hoping someone involved with VUL would wander on the board and read it. I'm assuming the coaching staff runs the VUL football Twitter feed-- they basically called out D3 football and said the scrimmage would be a breeze.
Well, that (the Tweet) was dumb ... I haven't seen them come close against any well-organized college team.  I even read a story last year where the school was in arrears on a hotel they rented to use as a dorm and all the student residents got evicted with little to no notice.  Not sure why anyone would want to go there.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 28, 2016, 09:53:27 AM
Quote from: hasanova on August 27, 2016, 10:20:31 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 27, 2016, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 27, 2016, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 20, 2016, 07:26:40 PM
I heard MC put the defensive beat down on VUL today. Apparently a shut out with several forced turnovers and (again, what I heard...) 12 sacks. I wish BSC was the opponent today instead of whatever was on the field.
Offense showed signs of life, but with only 6 practices and 2 in full pads, timing will come. More than a handful of missed opportunities for big plays.
Early word going around is this year's freshman class might be the best MC has had. I guess we will find out in 2 weeks at Berry.

Any other scrimmages today? Berry and HC again this year?
Don't get overly hyped about a good performance against VUL ... to be kind, they probably aren't very good based on facilities and past record.  Not sure how they can even field a team to be honest.

Yeah I know. 3 reasons for my excitement:
1. It's nearly September
2. MC lost a lot of production on defense due to graduation or kids not coming back
3. I was hoping someone involved with VUL would wander on the board and read it. I'm assuming the coaching staff runs the VUL football Twitter feed-- they basically called out D3 football and said the scrimmage would be a breeze.
Well, that {the Tweet) was dumb ... I haven't seen them come close against any well-organized college team.  I even read a story last year where the school was in arrears on a hotel they rented to use as a dorm and all the student residents got evicted with little to no notice.  Not sure why anyone would want to go there.

When I first heard about that school last year, I did some research. Their main page would not open on my server at work because their .edu page was full of viruses and issues.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 28, 2016, 11:05:33 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on August 28, 2016, 09:53:27 AM
Quote from: hasanova on August 27, 2016, 10:20:31 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 27, 2016, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 27, 2016, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 20, 2016, 07:26:40 PM
I heard MC put the defensive beat down on VUL today. Apparently a shut out with several forced turnovers and (again, what I heard...) 12 sacks. I wish BSC was the opponent today instead of whatever was on the field.
Offense showed signs of life, but with only 6 practices and 2 in full pads, timing will come. More than a handful of missed opportunities for big plays.
Early word going around is this year's freshman class might be the best MC has had. I guess we will find out in 2 weeks at Berry.

Any other scrimmages today? Berry and HC again this year?
Don't get overly hyped about a good performance against VUL ... to be kind, they probably aren't very good based on facilities and past record.  Not sure how they can even field a team to be honest.

Yeah I know. 3 reasons for my excitement:
1. It's nearly September
2. MC lost a lot of production on defense due to graduation or kids not coming back
3. I was hoping someone involved with VUL would wander on the board and read it. I'm assuming the coaching staff runs the VUL football Twitter feed-- they basically called out D3 football and said the scrimmage would be a breeze.
Well, that {the Tweet) was dumb ... I haven't seen them come close against any well-organized college team.  I even read a story last year where the school was in arrears on a hotel they rented to use as a dorm and all the student residents got evicted with little to no notice.  Not sure why anyone would want to go there.

When I first heard about that school last year, I did some research. Their main page would not open on my server at work because their .edu page was full of viruses and issues.
Doesn't surprise me ... not sure if they are accredited ... probably not.

http://www.newsadvance.com/news/local/virginia-university-of-lynchburg-placed-on-probation/article_99145bac-4bd3-11e3-98bd-001a4bcf6878.html
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 28, 2016, 12:41:02 PM
From what I could find, they are a church affiliated HBCU with around 200 students. NCAA NAIA USCAA---nobody wants them so they call themselves a hybrid of FCS, D2, and NAIA. It's the damnedest thing I've heard of.

Has anyone been able to find a schedule or roster? I haven't found one yet.
**at Grambling State on Sept. 3**
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on August 28, 2016, 07:14:15 PM
That school basically still exists because they have a football team. It's the only reason they get enough tuition dollars to keep going. They have no athletic accreditation,  the barest academic accreditation,  and I'd love to know their retention rate. I don't want to call it a degree factory because it demeans the kids that work to get one who aren't at fault, but it exists in the part of the spectrum of our higher education system that is very sad.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HansenRatings on August 28, 2016, 08:20:09 PM
Their lack of accreditation has landed VUL on the NCAA's non-countable opponents list. A regular season game against them wouldn't count towards a team's record and no statistics would count toward official NCAA records.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 03, 2016, 05:55:10 PM
Hawks are happy to get away from Pineville with the opening win on the road 52-49. Too many turnovers for both teams and we have some things to tighten up on defense.
On to the home opener next Saturday night against Birmingham-Southern. A lot of work still to do.
Go Hawks! Beat BSC!

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: narch on September 03, 2016, 05:59:25 PM
mu pulls out a late win against apprentice today, 24-20...to be honest, they didn't look great on either side of the ball - offense struggled to move it at times, and the defense gave up too many big plays...could be a long season if things don't get on track...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 03, 2016, 08:23:27 PM
 ;D Hawks... now and then, we have barn burners in Pineville

Beat BSC
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 03, 2016, 08:50:45 PM
Sloppy game and Berry wins 34-33.
Obvious offensive PI on Berry for a touchdown, but 5 points left on the board by special teams for MC.
Disgusted.

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 03, 2016, 09:53:20 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 03, 2016, 08:23:27 PM
;D Hawks... now and then, we have barn burners in Pineville

Beat BSC
keep the faith
Pretty much always at Pineville, DG.

Is Hampden-Sydney down this year or was Averett just really pumped up to open their new stadium? Didn't see that one coming.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 04, 2016, 12:20:13 AM
Quote from: narch on September 03, 2016, 05:59:25 PM
mu pulls out a late win against apprentice today, 24-20...to be honest, they didn't look great on either side of the ball - offense struggled to move it at times, and the defense gave up too many big plays...could be a long season if things don't get on track...
Hi, narch.  I'll miss next week's MU at Guilford game due to a trip overseas ... hope you're able to make it and log a report for me to read when I return.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Desertraider on September 09, 2016, 01:17:35 PM
No shots fired here - but any NC Weslyan fans headed to the game with Mount on Saturday? Was wondering if any of you had some insight on the team. Thanks-
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 09, 2016, 02:20:13 PM
Quote from: desertraider on September 09, 2016, 01:17:35 PM
No shots fired here - but any NC Weslyan fans headed to the game with Mount on Saturday? Was wondering if any of you had some insight on the team. Thanks-

They should be better than last year and that team was on the cusp of being pretty good. Good QB/WR tandem on offense.
UMU shouldn't have a problem, but I think it will be a fun 1st quarter to watch.

Holding UMU to 56 or less and scoring 14 or more should be a moral victory. (not being an a$$, just being realistic. NCWC will compete in USAC this year)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 09, 2016, 03:08:55 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 09, 2016, 02:20:13 PM
Quote from: desertraider on September 09, 2016, 01:17:35 PM
No shots fired here - but any NC Weslyan fans headed to the game with Mount on Saturday? Was wondering if any of you had some insight on the team. Thanks-

They should be better than last year and that team was on the cusp of being pretty good. Good QB/WR tandem on offense.
UMU shouldn't have a problem, but I think it will be a fun 1st quarter to watch.

Holding UMU to 56 or less and scoring 14 or more should be a moral victory. (not being an a$$, just being realistic. NCWC will compete in USAC this year)
I'd say Scot13's assessment is pretty fair.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Steve on September 10, 2016, 11:04:16 AM
Good morning everyone. Not to much chatter this year. I guess everyone is looking to see what happens over the next couple of weeks. Here what I think about the USA. I think it is much improved from the past couple of years. Huntingdon, Maryville, NCW, Methodist, Lagrange. Averette and  Ferrum will surprise some people over the next two weeks. I look for Huntingdon to repeat this year but I think there will be some great battles along the way. Good luck to all the teams in the USA and I look forward to a great season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2016, 12:18:13 PM
Quote from: Steve on September 10, 2016, 11:04:16 AM
Good morning everyone. Not to much chatter this year. I guess everyone is looking to see what happens over the next couple of weeks. Here what I think about the USA. I think it is much improved from the past couple of years. Huntingdon, Maryville, NCW, Methodist, Lagrange. Averette and  Ferrum will surprise some people over the next two weeks. I look for Huntingdon to repeat this year but I think there will be some great battles along the way. Good luck to all the teams in the USA and I look forward to a great season.
You're right, Greensboro is not much improved, but all seven of the USASAC balance?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on September 10, 2016, 01:22:01 PM
QuoteI'd say Scot13's assessment is pretty fair.

I'd say.

0-0 end of 1st.

0-14 at 7:37 2nd however.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 10, 2016, 04:28:28 PM
Maybe I missed my calling in life...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2016, 05:13:00 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 10, 2016, 01:22:01 PM
QuoteI'd say Scot13's assessment is pretty fair.

I'd say.

0-0 end of 1st.

0-14 at 7:37 2nd however.
What were you saying again, D.O.C.?  I agree, NCWC played them tough for a half, then it appears the Raiders wore them down.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 10, 2016, 05:34:42 PM
2 hour weather delay at half, Maryville and Hanover get going again. MC scores...another weather delay.
31-0 MC with 12:03 left in 3Q. No lights.
Need to get the next 12:03 in for it to be official.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2016, 05:50:57 PM
Went to the E&H video to check on the Wasps score ... 28-14 Final over Brevard.  E&H scored in every quarter and the Tornados scored in the 3rd and 4th.

I'm sorry, but E&H is the worst at posting their scores in a timely manner.  If I was an alumnus, I'd raise cane about it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2016, 09:12:36 PM
At the half in Greensboro:  Guilford 24, Methodist 0
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 10, 2016, 11:27:43 PM
I hope The Hawks can step up on the D side of the ball next Saturday against Belhaven.

It was a good game tonight, but the D gave up 2 easy TD's,.... got to get that cured.

Keep the faith and Go Hawks

( i show up and read during the off season, but have nothing good to say......usually,  ??? )
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 11, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
Nice win for the Hawks against BSC. Always happy when we get the win in this game. Still a good bit of work to do on defense as three of their scores were on big plays where we had breakdowns that made it a lot closer than I thought it should have been. I just went back and looked at the bad call in the third that almost turned momentum where the incomplete pass was ruled a lateral and recovered by BSC. Bailey released the ball from between the 33 and 34 which then deflected off Floyd's hands at the 35 so it was absolutely a forward pass, not even close. Luckily our D came up big there and got the ball back. If BSC scores there we could have been in a dog fight the rest of the way.

Mumme's air raid coming to town next week with Belhaven. Hope we get ready and limit those big plays as I think they could give us a lot of trouble.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 12, 2016, 03:06:07 AM
I just took a video peek at Frank R. Campbell Stadium at Averett ... looks as though the Cougars took a big step up from what was there.  Kudos.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Steve on September 15, 2016, 04:45:08 PM
This board is still quiet. I guess everyone is still waiting to see how things go this weekend. I still think the USAC is better. This week will be interesting. Hoping the usa will give the odoc some good games. The conference games will be dog fights if all the teams continue to improve this weekend. Good luck USAC, bring home some wins this weekend.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 17, 2016, 08:29:11 PM
Go Hawks
Nice win
Must Get ready for N.C. Wesleyan on Nov 1
Keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 17, 2016, 08:59:22 PM
758 yds of total offense for Huntingdon today, 381 rushing and 377 passing so good balance there. Defense gave up 464 yds but was much tighter and without the big breakdowns and didn't give up so many big plays as the first two games. Was helped by 7 Belhaven turnovers.
Open date next week. Time to get in gear for conference play with the long trip to NC Wesleyan for the opener.

Hawk'Em!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on September 18, 2016, 09:14:24 AM
Congrats to Huntingdon on the nice start. I've been keeping an eye on you guys.  CNU never really got to play you guys much. Good luck the rest of the way. Hopefully during the bye week the D figures a way to stop the opponents offense. Averaging 500 yds per game vs teams that were 10-20 last year. Conference play will see some better teams. It was always difficult in USA South to figure out how teams really stacked up after the first 3 weeks of non conference play. I have a feeling the conference has more parity this year.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: GillCJ1 on September 18, 2016, 05:33:37 PM
Nice win for the Hawks.  I actually picked Belhaven to upset them, though I wasn't feeling particularly confident in that decision.  You never know what might happen when facing a Humme offense.  The Cru has certainly seen its fair share (good and bad) from him.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 20, 2016, 08:26:01 AM
Congrats to Maryville's Pierre Chadwick and Ferrum's Motel Lee on being named to the Team of the Week for their play against E&H and HSC.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Allen C on September 24, 2016, 10:52:56 AM
Thought I would check out the board. Have not been here in a while. Ferrum showing definite signs of life on the field, and have a pretty good collection of talent. Hoping for a .500 season this year. Doubt they are in the conference title talk right now, but I do believe they are headed in the right direction. I will have an article up on the blog today giving a lot of detail to the Panthers turning around #restoretheroar

blog url:

www.ferrumfootball.blogspot.com
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 28, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
USA South tweeted today that there is a big announcement coming Friday. Anybody got any ideas what it might be?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 28, 2016, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 28, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
USA South tweeted today that there is a big announcement coming Friday. Anybody got any ideas what it might be?
Confidence interval

45%   Which school is adding football?
40%   Which school has sought membership in the USA South?
5%    The USA South has voted to split in two?
~10%  Something else?
0.000000001%  LSU has hired a football coach from a USA South school to be the new head coach.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 28, 2016, 07:52:18 PM
They don't really need another football school although even numbers are nice. Be interesting to see what it is.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 28, 2016, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 28, 2016, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 28, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
USA South tweeted today that there is a big announcement coming Friday. Anybody got any ideas what it might be?
Confidence interval

45%   Which school is adding football? Don't think Covenant would. Piedmont?
40%   Which school has sought membership in the USA South? MUW? Don't know that that would fall under "big announcement."
5%    The USA South has voted to split in two? Maybe, maybe not.
~10%  Something else? ]
0.000000001%  LSU has hired a football coach from a USA South school to be the new head coach. LOL
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 28, 2016, 08:14:52 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on September 17, 2016, 08:29:11 PM
Go Hawks
Nice win
Must Get ready for N.C. Wesleyan on Nov 1
Keep the faith
I think you meant Oct. 1 ... should be an interesting game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 28, 2016, 11:38:00 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 28, 2016, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 28, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
USA South tweeted today that there is a big announcement coming Friday. Anybody got any ideas what it might be?
Confidence interval

45%   Which school is adding football?
40%   Which school has sought membership in the USA South?
5%    The USA South has voted to split in two?
~10%  Something else?
0.000000001%  LSU has hired a football coach from a USA South school to be the new head coach.

Going to guess some scheduling arrangement with the ODAC, maybe even loaning a school to the ODAC for football only.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 28, 2016, 11:50:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 28, 2016, 11:38:00 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 28, 2016, 07:04:51 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 28, 2016, 06:20:50 PM
USA South tweeted today that there is a big announcement coming Friday. Anybody got any ideas what it might be?
Confidence interval

45%   Which school is adding football?
40%   Which school has sought membership in the USA South?
5%    The USA South has voted to split in two?
~10%  Something else?
0.000000001%  LSU has hired a football coach from a USA South school to be the new head coach.

Going to guess some scheduling arrangement with the ODAC, maybe even loaning a school to the ODAC for football only.
I think this may be spot on ... USASAC will have 9 and ODAC will have 7 as is ... would solve a lot of scheduling issues if both have eight.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 28, 2016, 11:50:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 28, 2016, 11:38:00 PM


Going to guess some scheduling arrangement with the ODAC, maybe even loaning a school to the ODAC for football only.
I think this may be spot on ... USASAC will have 9 and ODAC will have 7 as is ... would solve a lot of scheduling issues if both have eight.
I agree.  Whom?  Averett? Ferrum? Greensboro?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 29, 2016, 08:59:01 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 28, 2016, 11:50:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 28, 2016, 11:38:00 PM


Going to guess some scheduling arrangement with the ODAC, maybe even loaning a school to the ODAC for football only.
I think this may be spot on ... USASAC will have 9 and ODAC will have 7 as is ... would solve a lot of scheduling issues if both have eight.
I agree.  Whom?  Averett? Ferrum? Greensboro?
Ferrum? The HSC folks on the ODAC board were complaining about Ferrum backing out of the HSC home game part of their contract next year. Maybe Ferrum is going to HSC next year after all?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 29, 2016, 09:01:17 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 28, 2016, 11:50:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 28, 2016, 11:38:00 PM


Going to guess some scheduling arrangement with the ODAC, maybe even loaning a school to the ODAC for football only.
I think this may be spot on ... USASAC will have 9 and ODAC will have 7 as is ... would solve a lot of scheduling issues if both have eight.
I agree.  Whom?  Averett? Ferrum? Greensboro?

I can't imagine Greensboro wanting to do that. In recent history, at least, the ODAC has proven to be a difficult climb for most USASAC teams, including the 3 mentioned but especially Greensboro. Even Averett, seemingly with one of their better teams in a while, went 1-2 against the ODAC this year. And in Ferrum's best recent years, '11 and '12, they went 1-2 and 1-1 against the ODAC. For scheduling purposes I'd be happy to have them, but what do they get out of it? A little more compact travel perhaps, especially for Averett and Ferrum. Is that enough?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 29, 2016, 09:16:39 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 29, 2016, 08:59:01 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 28, 2016, 11:50:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 28, 2016, 11:38:00 PM


Going to guess some scheduling arrangement with the ODAC, maybe even loaning a school to the ODAC for football only.
I think this may be spot on ... USASAC will have 9 and ODAC will have 7 as is ... would solve a lot of scheduling issues if both have eight.
I agree.  Whom?  Averett? Ferrum? Greensboro?
Ferrum? The HSC folks on the ODAC board were complaining about Ferrum backing out of the HSC home game part of their contract next year. Maybe Ferrum is going to HSC next year after all?

That would be a funny outcome given the bellyaching. I think of this basically in terms of a favor to the ODAC if it happens. Granted it'd be easier for the USASAC to have 8 than 9, but that's not as big a problem as the ODAC having 7. So if it comes true, the ODAC will owe the USASAC a very nice thank you card!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2016, 01:01:39 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 29, 2016, 09:16:39 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 29, 2016, 08:59:01 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
Quote from: hasanova on September 28, 2016, 11:50:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 28, 2016, 11:38:00 PM


Going to guess some scheduling arrangement with the ODAC, maybe even loaning a school to the ODAC for football only.
I think this may be spot on ... USASAC will have 9 and ODAC will have 7 as is ... would solve a lot of scheduling issues if both have eight.
I agree.  Whom?  Averett? Ferrum? Greensboro?
Ferrum? The HSC folks on the ODAC board were complaining about Ferrum backing out of the HSC home game part of their contract next year. Maybe Ferrum is going to HSC next year after all?

That would be a funny outcome given the bellyaching. I think of this basically in terms of a favor to the ODAC if it happens. Granted it'd be easier for the USASAC to have 8 than 9, but that's not as big a problem as the ODAC having 7. So if it comes true, the ODAC will owe the USASAC a very nice thank you card!
Or a commitment to play 2 OOC games for 4 years?

Stronger inter-conference relations in other sports?

The ODAC gets help with scheduling in other sports from the Centennial and Capital AC (and even the MAC schools to some degree). The SAA is "kinda there" for OOC games for the USA South, but Rhodes, Hendrix and Millsaps are a long way to the west.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 29, 2016, 01:41:51 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 29, 2016, 01:01:39 PM
Or a commitment to play 2 OOC games for 4 years?

Stronger inter-conference relations in other sports?

The ODAC gets help with scheduling in other sports from the Centennial and Capital AC (and even the MAC schools to some degree). The SAA is "kinda there" for OOC games for the USA South, but Rhodes, Hendrix and Millsaps are a long way to the west.

Could be. But it's mostly done anyway. The only ODAC schools that didn't play 2 USASAC opponents this year were W&L, Bridgewater and Catholic. Those three schools played none. But the other 5 all played at least 2, with Guilford playing 3.

Last year every team but Catholic played at least one. And only W&L, H-SC, and Bridgewater only played one. The other 4 teams played at least 2, with Guilford playing 3.

Not sure how it plays out in other sports.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 30, 2016, 03:51:44 PM
Apparently the USA South now has an official facebook page.

Sorry.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 30, 2016, 03:55:01 PM
Well. The definition of a big announcement varies greatly, doesn't it? Classic how we took that ball and ran with it...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 30, 2016, 03:59:00 PM
Hawks88 and jknezek, laughing with both of you ... I got sucked in too ... I can't tell you how many times I checked this morning to see what the "big" announcement was.  lol
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 30, 2016, 04:10:41 PM
Yeah, kind of a long drive to Rocky Mount, checking on my phone at every stop wondering what the news was. Phhht.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 01, 2016, 08:44:49 PM
Great game

Averett 65 LaGrange 62. 4OT.

The audio went down but it looked like a 37yd FG to win.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 01, 2016, 09:27:55 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 01, 2016, 08:44:49 PM
Great game

Averett 65 LaGrange 62. 4OT.

The audio went down but it looked like a 37yd FG to win.
I saw the final.  Wild.  48 all in regulation.  7/7/0/3 for AU to win.  Naturally, LC went 7/7/0/0.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 02, 2016, 02:40:28 AM
Disappointing day for the Hawks. We started out well enough with TD's on two of our first three possessions but then the wheels kind of came off after giving up the long kick-off return. From late in the first and most of the second quarters our offense went into some kind of funk making mistakes that I don't think I've ever seen this team make. QB turns one way and RB goes the other, confusion getting the right personnel groups in a couple times. Silly stuff that's way out of character for these guys. Seemed to put it back together late in the second and drove down and should have gotten points but had the pick in the end zone that was killer, especially with NCW getting the ball first in the 2nd half. After they scored on that first possession to go up 3 TD's our guys showed a lot of fight to get two straight scores and cut it to 7. On NCW's next possession we got a pick that really could have finished turning things back around but the side judge somehow imagined a face mask penalty and gave them the ball back. One DB three steps behind the receiver and the corner back makes a nice move on the ball cutting under to make the pick. Neither guy anywhere near within arms length to make any kind of contact with the guy and the flag doesn't come out until after the pick. Very questionable and we never really got anything going again.
Over all NC Wesleyan played very well and we didn't do enough to win the game.
All we can do now is win the rest and hope for them to lose two down the line.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 02, 2016, 10:15:51 AM
I was in a wedding yesterday and my Scots won big and Huntingdon lost...maybe I need to go to more weddings?

NCWC is the real deal. I knew they were good since the reeled off 5 or 6 straight last year and lost most of the games tight. MC has them next so we'll see what we got for them. Favorable for MC though as we have NCWC and HC at home this year.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 02, 2016, 11:12:48 AM
ouch
ouch again
Go Hawks, we got to re group
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 02, 2016, 11:16:52 AM
Tough loss for HC vs NCWC ... not sure if the Hawks will drop out of the Top 25, but they'll take a hit.  When you lose your conference opener to a contender, it puts you behind the eight ball ... even if you go 6-1, 9-1, you have to hope NCWC goes 5-2 in the USASAC because you've already lost the head-to-head tie-breaker.  Same thing happened to Guilford last year vs W&L and we stayed home because the Generals never lost.  All you can do is regroup and watch the scoreboard. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 08, 2016, 02:46:59 PM
Tied at 10 at the half for Maryville and NCWC.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 08, 2016, 04:22:45 PM
MC 31  NCWC 17 Final.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 08, 2016, 08:40:34 PM
Nice bounce back win for the Hawks 48-27 over Ferrum. It wasn't really that close as Ferrum got a couple of late scores when we were subbing pretty liberally.
On to a big rivalry game with Lagrange next week. Always a tough one.

Go Hawks!

P.S. - Thanks, Maryville.  We needed that.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 08, 2016, 09:25:26 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 08, 2016, 08:40:34 PM
Nice bounce back win for the Hawks 48-27 over Ferrum. It wasn't really that close as Ferrum got a couple of late scores when we were subbing pretty liberally.
On to a big rivalry game with Lagrange next week. Always a tough one.

Go Hawks!

P.S. - Thanks, Maryville.  We needed that.

You're welcome, but we did it for us. Shades of 2012 all over the place.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 10, 2016, 02:29:29 PM
The Fayetteville area apparently took a big hit from Matthew with some severe flooding and damage. MU is closed for the whole week with all athletic events postponed, including Saturday's football game at NC Wesleyan.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 10, 2016, 04:17:04 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 10, 2016, 02:29:29 PM
The Fayetteville area apparently took a big hit from Matthew with some severe flooding and damage. MU is closed for the whole week with all athletic events postponed, including Saturday's football game at NC Wesleyan.

Terrible situation for all. Hope the area recovers soon.

Any chance of being rescheduled? NCWC is still in the thick of things.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Bishop64 on October 10, 2016, 05:30:36 PM
Water is on the edge of Bishop Stadium. I hope it is rescheduled, but I don't know when it could be !
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on October 11, 2016, 01:03:07 PM
The schedule is going to be crazy if Methodist has 2 games cancelled. AU and NCW also missing a game. It's a shame not having a full schedule and letting all the "what ifs" play out.

Someone could very well feel like they are on the short end of the stick.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 15, 2016, 08:10:52 PM
Dominating win for the Hawks over Lagrange 55-13 making our combined total against the Mummes this season 120-34.
Trip to Methodist up next. Hoping things in Fayetteville have improved enough that we get to go play it.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 15, 2016, 08:25:42 PM
MC 42-19 over Ferrum. Started slow, got on a roll, but finished sloppy after an injury apiece early in the the 4th in the span of seconds of game play. Averett next.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 16, 2016, 12:01:44 AM
Good Win
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 16, 2016, 08:34:26 PM
According to the Methodist website the remainder of the season will be played as scheduled and they have petitioned the NCAA to replay one of the missed games after the conclusion of the regular season.
Now we just hope they allow Huntingdon to do their video webcast. We've been hearing for several weeks now that they didn't want to let him because they don't have room. Not sure what that matters as two years ago he set up in the visitor's bleachers with a generator to do it. Hopefully it gets worked out so we can see the game. Does Methodist do a webcast? I don't see a link to it on their website.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 16, 2016, 08:56:27 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 16, 2016, 08:34:26 PM
According to the Methodist website the remainder of the season will be played as scheduled and they have petitioned the NCAA to replay one of the missed games after the conclusion of the regular season.
Now we just hope they allow Huntingdon to do their video webcast. We've been hearing for several weeks now that they didn't want to let him because they don't have room. Not sure what that matters as two years ago he set up in the visitor's bleachers with a generator to do it. Hopefully it gets worked out so we can see the game. Does Methodist do a webcast? I don't see a link to it on their website.

Go Hawks!

They usually do have a webcast.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2016, 12:22:33 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 16, 2016, 08:56:27 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 16, 2016, 08:34:26 PM
According to the Methodist website the remainder of the season will be played as scheduled and they have petitioned the NCAA to replay one of the missed games after the conclusion of the regular season.
Now we just hope they allow Huntingdon to do their video webcast. We've been hearing for several weeks now that they didn't want to let him because they don't have room. Not sure what that matters as two years ago he set up in the visitor's bleachers with a generator to do it. Hopefully it gets worked out so we can see the game. Does Methodist do a webcast? I don't see a link to it on their website.

Go Hawks!

They usually do have a webcast.

I've looked a couple of times this year and have come up empty.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 17, 2016, 09:31:46 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 17, 2016, 12:22:33 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 16, 2016, 08:56:27 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 16, 2016, 08:34:26 PM
According to the Methodist website the remainder of the season will be played as scheduled and they have petitioned the NCAA to replay one of the missed games after the conclusion of the regular season.
Now we just hope they allow Huntingdon to do their video webcast. We've been hearing for several weeks now that they didn't want to let him because they don't have room. Not sure what that matters as two years ago he set up in the visitor's bleachers with a generator to do it. Hopefully it gets worked out so we can see the game. Does Methodist do a webcast? I don't see a link to it on their website.

Go Hawks!

They usually do have a webcast.

I've looked a couple of times this year and have come up empty.
The schedule on our website has a link to our video for Saturday. I'm pretty sure it wasn't there a week or so ago so hopefully it has been worked out and our webcast will be available.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 22, 2016, 03:52:54 PM
Not much resistance from Methodist today. Hawks jumped out in front to lead 41-7 at the half before winning 47-14.
Senior day next week with the final home game against Greensboro.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 22, 2016, 09:47:44 PM
Go Hawks

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 23, 2016, 02:59:58 PM
Averett has a much improved team. Gave us all we wanted in the 4th after being down 24-3 at half. MC held on to win 31-26. Got to continue to play one week at a time. LaGrange next week then finishing with Huntingdon and Greensboro.

Shaun Hayes is now 14-3 as the head ball coach.
7 in a row over Averett. Hopefully we can break the Hawks' streak over us in 2 weeks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 29, 2016, 08:07:51 PM
Not much to say about that one except that was ugly.
On to Maryville next week. NC Wesleyan took their second loss today so we don't have to worry about any tie-breakers. We keep winning, we keep playing. Our final two opponents are the two teams that beat the team that beat us. Time to see what we are really made of.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 29, 2016, 08:30:40 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 29, 2016, 08:07:51 PM
Not much to say about that one except that was ugly.
On to Maryville next week. NC Wesleyan took their second loss today so we don't have to worry about any tie-breakers. We keep winning, we keep playing. Our final two opponents are the two teams that beat the team that beat us. Time to see what we are really made of.

Go Hawks!

This matchup is what's great about small college football. I plan on making my patented post-Friday-game-drive-and-getting-to-Maryville-at-4:30-in-the-morning trek. Here's to us breaking the streak!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 29, 2016, 11:00:18 PM
hope we can play well in Murrvul next week
Hawks- great to see you today

Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 08:22:04 PM
Hawks and DG-- coming to the game this Saturday?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 31, 2016, 08:35:53 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 08:22:04 PM
Hawks and DG-- coming to the game this Saturday?
My wife and I are planning to be there.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 08:46:53 PM
I'll send you a message Saturday with our tailgate location-- love to have a cold Coca-Cola with you guys. Just because we're from Tennessee and Alabama doesn't mean we can't be civil on gameday ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2016, 09:16:49 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 08:46:53 PM
I'll send you a message Saturday with our tailgate location-- love to have a cold Coca-Cola with you guys. Just because we're from Tennessee and Alabama doesn't mean we can't be civil on gameday ;D
High fructose corn syrup in a can or

real cane sugar in a chilled bottle (what we call in Texas "Mexican Coca-Cola")?   ;)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 09:28:54 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2016, 09:16:49 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 08:46:53 PM
I'll send you a message Saturday with our tailgate location-- love to have a cold Coca-Cola with you guys. Just because we're from Tennessee and Alabama doesn't mean we can't be civil on gameday ;D
High fructose corn syrup in a can or

real cane sugar in a chilled bottle (what we call in Texas "Mexican Coca-Cola")?   ;)

Real cane sugar or corn syrup, the one that burns a little on the way down. Or, as my papaw (Mr. East Tennessee himself) says, "puts a little hair on your chest." ::)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2016, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 09:28:54 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2016, 09:16:49 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 08:46:53 PM
I'll send you a message Saturday with our tailgate location-- love to have a cold Coca-Cola with you guys. Just because we're from Tennessee and Alabama doesn't mean we can't be civil on gameday ;D
High fructose corn syrup in a can or

real cane sugar in a chilled bottle (what we call in Texas "Mexican Coca-Cola")?   ;)

Real cane sugar or corn syrup, the one that burns a little on the way down. Or, as my papaw (Mr. East Tennessee himself) says, "puts a little hair on your chest." ::)
Chilled in the bottle. You might find Mexican Coca-Cola in a mom-and-pop (Hispanic) grocery store in the original 10 ounce bottle with a sticker on the bottle for the ingredients.

Yes, it will put "hair on your chest"!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 10:03:02 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2016, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 09:28:54 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2016, 09:16:49 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 08:46:53 PM
I'll send you a message Saturday with our tailgate location-- love to have a cold Coca-Cola with you guys. Just because we're from Tennessee and Alabama doesn't mean we can't be civil on gameday ;D
High fructose corn syrup in a can or

real cane sugar in a chilled bottle (what we call in Texas "Mexican Coca-Cola")?   ;)

Real cane sugar or corn syrup, the one that burns a little on the way down. Or, as my papaw (Mr. East Tennessee himself) says, "puts a little hair on your chest." ::)
Chilled in the bottle. You might find Mexican Coca-Cola in a mom-and-pop (Hispanic) grocery store in the original 10 ounce bottle with a sticker on the bottle for the ingredients.

Yes, it will put "hair on your chest"!

I grew up around the Mexican culture. Working on a family farm with migrant workers during summers from age of 7 to 23 will open a young man's eyes. Their coke and our coke are different--I think I'll stick with the U S of A. I am fond of Jarritos and horchata, though. One of these days I'll make my way down to ol' Mexico
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2016, 10:40:53 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 10:03:02 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2016, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 09:28:54 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 31, 2016, 09:16:49 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 31, 2016, 08:46:53 PM
I'll send you a message Saturday with our tailgate location-- love to have a cold Coca-Cola with you guys. Just because we're from Tennessee and Alabama doesn't mean we can't be civil on gameday ;D
High fructose corn syrup in a can or

real cane sugar in a chilled bottle (what we call in Texas "Mexican Coca-Cola")?   ;)

Real cane sugar or corn syrup, the one that burns a little on the way down. Or, as my papaw (Mr. East Tennessee himself) says, "puts a little hair on your chest." ::)
Chilled in the bottle. You might find Mexican Coca-Cola in a mom-and-pop (Hispanic) grocery store in the original 10 ounce bottle with a sticker on the bottle for the ingredients.

Yes, it will put "hair on your chest"!

I grew up around the Mexican culture. Working on a family farm with migrant workers during summers from age of 7 to 23 will open a young man's eyes. Their coke and our coke are different--I think I'll stick with the U S of A. I am fond of Jarritos and horchata, though. One of these days I'll make my way down to ol' Mexico
A bottle of Jarritos is smooth...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 06, 2016, 09:30:00 AM
It wasn't a pretty win by any means but it was a great win for the Hawks. Definitely a heart stopper. They pretty much beat us everywhere except where it really counts thanks to our defense standing up when it really had to and holding Maryville to three field goals and getting the stop at the end.
Maryville is going to be tough to handle the next couple of years with some of the young guys they have. I don't know that I am going to be looking forward to this match up very much.
On to Averett next week to see if we can wrap up the share of the conference title and the post season berth.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 12, 2016, 04:02:35 PM
Huntingdon rolls up 700 yds of offense in the 42-14 win over Averett. Three turnovers and a silly unsportsman like conduct penalty on 4th down to keep an Averett scoring drive going made it a lot more nerve wracking than it needed to be.
Washington beats Chicago and with Berry leading Centre 21-13 in the 4th, if that holds, nobody within 500 miles. Afraid we might be flying somewhere far away for the 1st round.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 12, 2016, 05:08:52 PM
Go Hawks
 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 19, 2016, 04:20:54 PM
Ouch
got whipped, no where to hide
it was painful to watch
but, Always Go Hawks  :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: blue_jays on November 19, 2016, 06:29:25 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 19, 2016, 04:20:54 PM
Ouch
got whipped, no where to hide
it was painful to watch
but, Always Go Hawks  :)

Just remember, it could have been worse: http://athletics.wheaton.edu/boxscore.aspx?path=football&id=4562
Last year, Lakeland averaged 1.1 yards per play versus Wheaton in the 1st Round...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 19, 2016, 07:35:30 PM
Quote from: blue_jays on November 19, 2016, 06:29:25 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 19, 2016, 04:20:54 PM
Ouch
got whipped, no where to hide
it was painful to watch
but, Always Go Hawks  :)

Just remember, it could have been worse: http://athletics.wheaton.edu/boxscore.aspx?path=football&id=4562
Last year, Lakeland averaged 1.1 yards per play versus Wheaton in the 1st Round...
Our offense was out of sync for most of the day but Wheaton had a lot to do with that. Just 3 points from two trips inside the 10 hurt a good bit but if we could somehow erase that 5 minute stretch of the 2nd quarter where EVERYTHING went wrong then maybe it could have been a lot better game.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 19, 2016, 08:23:53 PM
Hawks
Hopefully we will see them next year ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 23, 2016, 01:50:43 PM
USA South All-Conference Team announced today(http://www.usasouth.net/sports/fball/2016-17/releases/20161117f31a54 (http://www.usasouth.net/sports/fball/2016-17/releases/20161117f31a54)). Ten Hawks on the first team and 5 on the second team with Luke Bailey named Offensive Player of the Year, DeAnte' Griffith Defensive Rookie of the Year, and Mike Turk Coach of the Year. A couple of Huntingdon freshmen listed as well as several sophomores so we should have some good pieces still in place even with the big senior class this season.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 29, 2017, 08:31:32 PM
Guilford has posted its 2017 football schedule and, in addition to losing Catholic as a conference opponent, we will not play Greensboro after a 20 year run from 1997-2016.  It hasn't been competitive of late with GCQ winning 4 straight and the last three by a collective 198-13.  In addition, we are not playing Averett, but the Quakers are playing at Huntingdon and at Methodist from the USASAC.   Here's the full schedule with 4 out of 6 ODAC games at home (no night games except at Davidson):

Sept 2 @ Huntingdon 1 pm
Sept 9 @ Methodist  1 pm
Sept 16 @ Davidson 7 pm
Sept 23 The Apprentice School 1 pm
Sept 30 Open
Oct 7 HSC 1 pm
Oct 14 @ W&L 1 pm
Oct 21 Shenandoah 1 pm
Oct 28 @ Bridgewater 2 pm
Nov 4 RMC 1 pm
Nov 11 E&H 1 pm
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on January 29, 2017, 09:01:18 PM
Can't remember when the last time was a D-III school played Davidson.  :-\
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on January 29, 2017, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 29, 2017, 09:01:18 PM
Can't remember when the last time was a D-III school played Davidson.  :-\

W&L in 1999 probably. I think that was a year or two after they had been forced into the transition.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on January 29, 2017, 10:15:34 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 29, 2017, 09:01:18 PM
Can't remember when the last time was a D-III school played Davidson.  :-\

I confess I didn't know Davidson even played football. :D  Though many years ago they were pretty damn good in basketball.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on January 29, 2017, 10:18:11 PM
Davidson and Georgetown were two regular opponents for W&L until the NCAA mandated they move up or down in all sports. No one got grandfathered the way they were in soccer, lax and hockey.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 30, 2017, 09:55:24 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on January 29, 2017, 10:15:34 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 29, 2017, 09:01:18 PM
Can't remember when the last time was a D-III school played Davidson.  :-\

I confess I didn't know Davidson even played football. :D  Though many years ago they were pretty damn good in basketball.
Guilford played Davidson several times before they had to change to DI non-scholarship.  The Wildcats currently play in the Pioneer League and have fielded football since 1897.  Other Pioneer League members are Butler, Campbell, Dayton, Drake, Jacksonville, Marist, Morehead St., San Diego, Stetson and Valparaiso.  Davidson actually went 10-0 one season, although I can't remember the year.

Note:  I looked it up ... it was 2000 ... their last season as an independent before joining the Pioneer League in 2001.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerFanAlso2 on January 30, 2017, 02:13:51 PM
I know HSC played Davidson during the Favret tenure which began September, 2000.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on January 31, 2017, 08:49:43 AM
I've heard Maryville and E&H aren't playing in 2017. I wonder where that is going to leave the Wasps.

Maryville played Tennessee Tech in 2011 (the week after TTU played Iowa, same year they won the OVC so 54-7 or whatever the score was doesn't seem that bad  ;D) and beat East Tennessee State's reboot team in 2015.

Good luck Quakers.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on January 31, 2017, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on January 31, 2017, 08:49:43 AM
I've heard Maryville and E&H aren't playing in 2017. I wonder where that is going to leave the Wasps.

Maryville played Tennessee Tech in 2011 (the week after TTU played Iowa, same year they won the OVC so 54-7 or whatever the score was doesn't seem that bad  ;D) and beat East Tennessee State's reboot team in 2015.

Good luck Quakers.
Thanks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerFanAlso2 on February 01, 2017, 07:54:36 AM
Scots13

would love to see HSC vs. Maryville, home and away, 8 year contract.

can u get that done ?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 01, 2017, 10:06:32 AM
I'll drop Hayes a line explaining our concern of having Hanover on the schedule.  It was a necessity at the time, but after this year we need to beef it up a bit.  Berry is graduating a ton of talent-the 5th year hangover for a newer program, Brevard is moving down from D2 and isn't setting the world on fire. Unless Averett and Ferrum can build on some of the good they did last year and NCWC continues to improve, SoS is not very strong.

I would love to see that as well. Being an MC alum and growing up in Farmville, it wouldn't get much better than that. With Huntingdon and Guilford playing one another, we need to get more good USAC/ODAC games in...especially since the MC/E&H series is in another freeze.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerFanAlso2 on February 01, 2017, 12:36:32 PM
how many ooc games will MC have going forward ? Would love to get the 2 AD's together to discuss. This could be a long term ooc game for both schools, against a quality opponent. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 01, 2017, 07:31:17 PM
I believe just 2 since Brevard is joining the USAC, those being Berry and Hanover.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 07, 2017, 11:56:59 AM
A little late, but there's nothing else to talk about...

The Knoxville area had a few D3 commitments on NSD. Colleges represented were Maryville, Birmingham Southern, Mount Union, E&H, Berry, Thomas More. I can't remember if Sewanee had one or not.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Subway Alum on February 14, 2017, 05:42:01 PM
New member here . . . Checking in as a follower of Brevard, hoping the Tornados can be competitive in the USAC with their new coaching staff and some fairly experienced players coming back from the Division II South Atlantic Conference.  With the smallest enrollment in the SAC and a startup program, Brevard should probably have gone into Division III at the outset over a decade ago, and it's been brutal ever since. 

I'm looking forward to seeing the 2017 Brevard schedule and getting familiar with the USAC programs.  The reduction to a 10-game schedule ought to help Brevard--same for (I hope!) no more $$$ games requiring road trips to Southern Utah.  Here in Brevard the community was very supportive of football until a season of playing "home" games 35 miles away in Asheville (due to a natural playing surface done in by too many teams and too many games) did a lot to kill off local support.  The student body hasn't turned out for football to any great extent, either.  They seem to prefer hiking and mountain biking to the home football experience on Saturdays. As a graduate of two Big Ten schools and a frequent visitor to Furman home games since moving to the area I know what football Saturdays can be.  Ideally, a competitive team will help that get established.

Brevard played a decent game against Emory & Henry in 2016, so it may be that the core is there for a competitive team early on.  One thing that Brevard teams have going for them is that they never quit, and I hope the new coaches can keep that ethic going.  Traditionally and even against vastly superior opponents, Brevard has played well early, but depth gets to them.  Their style of play under the now- departed head coach (from 2007) also doomed them--a triple option offense that never had a workable passing game and that was incapable of coming back from any significant deficit.  Brevard has always played tough defense, but depth has been a problem there as well.  Nobody has any idea what offense the new coaches will install, and early-on it will probably be dictated by personnel, but there's a lot of optimism here now.  A Brevard win now and then would be a sweet thing!

Thanks to any of you who read this for putting up with a newcomer's ramblings.  As I get more familiar with the USAC I hope to be a more pertinent and useful contributor.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 14, 2017, 08:18:02 PM
Welcome to the boards.

I'm looking forward to seeing Brevard's schedule as well. I see on their website they will be releasing it soon--that will tell us if we are going 8 conference games or 7. Wouldn't be surprised if it's 8 this year and 7 next year.
I think Brevard's more suited for D3. We aren't the strongest league by any means, but I feel that a few teams are on the upswing. Going .500 in '17 would be a good start for Brevard.
I hope Maryville plays at Brevard this year so I have a reason to cross the mountain.


Speaking of schedules, MC is playing Hanover Week 2 per Hanover's website.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on February 14, 2017, 08:41:47 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on February 14, 2017, 08:18:02 PM
Welcome to the boards.

I'm looking forward to seeing Brevard's schedule as well. I see on their website they will be releasing it soon--that will tell us if we are going 8 conference games or 7. Wouldn't be surprised if it's 8 this year and 7 next year.

No need to wait for that part:
http://www.d3football.com/teams/Methodist/2017/index
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 15, 2017, 09:23:22 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 14, 2017, 08:41:47 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on February 14, 2017, 08:18:02 PM
Welcome to the boards.

I'm looking forward to seeing Brevard's schedule as well. I see on their website they will be releasing it soon--that will tell us if we are going 8 conference games or 7. Wouldn't be surprised if it's 8 this year and 7 next year.

No need to wait for that part:
http://www.d3football.com/teams/Methodist/2017/index

Ask and ye shall receive, huh?

Little surprised Methodist has released their schedule already. Little early than usual for USAC teams, isn't it?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on February 15, 2017, 09:49:40 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on February 15, 2017, 09:23:22 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 14, 2017, 08:41:47 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on February 14, 2017, 08:18:02 PM
Welcome to the boards.

I'm looking forward to seeing Brevard's schedule as well. I see on their website they will be releasing it soon--that will tell us if we are going 8 conference games or 7. Wouldn't be surprised if it's 8 this year and 7 next year.

No need to wait for that part:
http://www.d3football.com/teams/Methodist/2017/index

Ask and ye shall receive, huh?

Little surprised Methodist has released their schedule already. Little early than usual for USAC teams, isn't it?

If you have it done, why hide it? It's not like there is some big media day celebration around DIII schedule releases.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 15, 2017, 10:28:10 AM
Quote from: jknezek on February 15, 2017, 09:49:40 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on February 15, 2017, 09:23:22 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 14, 2017, 08:41:47 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on February 14, 2017, 08:18:02 PM
Welcome to the boards.

I'm looking forward to seeing Brevard's schedule as well. I see on their website they will be releasing it soon--that will tell us if we are going 8 conference games or 7. Wouldn't be surprised if it's 8 this year and 7 next year.

No need to wait for that part:
http://www.d3football.com/teams/Methodist/2017/index

Ask and ye shall receive, huh?

Little surprised Methodist has released their schedule already. Little early than usual for USAC teams, isn't it?

If you have it done, why hide it? It's not like there is some big media day celebration around DIII schedule releases.

I agree. It's apparent the conference has all the schedules and should release them. They usually haven't until closer to the season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on February 15, 2017, 06:20:11 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on February 14, 2017, 08:18:02 PM
Welcome to the boards.

I'm looking forward to seeing Brevard's schedule as well. I see on their website they will be releasing it soon--that will tell us if we are going 8 conference games or 7. Wouldn't be surprised if it's 8 this year and 7 next year.

Why would it be 7 next year?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 15, 2017, 07:09:22 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 15, 2017, 06:20:11 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on February 14, 2017, 08:18:02 PM
Welcome to the boards.

I'm looking forward to seeing Brevard's schedule as well. I see on their website they will be releasing it soon--that will tell us if we are going 8 conference games or 7. Wouldn't be surprised if it's 8 this year and 7 next year.

Why would it be 7 next year?

Basing that off of 2013 with 7 conference and 3 OOC games with the addition of Huntingdon and CNU still in the USAC. Plus, I'm sure the ODAC is petitioning Tom Hart to do it to help alleviate some scheduling pressure.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on February 22, 2017, 04:04:30 PM
According to this tweet Ben Fox, Huntingdon's Offensive Coordinator/QB Coach, has taken the same position at Centre.

https://twitter.com/CentreFootball/status/833875309195829248
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on February 23, 2017, 04:18:44 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 22, 2017, 04:04:30 PM
According to this tweet Ben Fox, Huntingdon's Offensive Coordinator/QB Coach, has taken the same position at Centre.

https://twitter.com/CentreFootball/status/833875309195829248

Tim Conner also left recently to be an Offensive Analyst at Temple.

Coach Turk has an impressive coaching tree under him--Mike Rader now at ETSU and defensive coach that was at UT for a time to drop a couple. Ansley I think is the name?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on February 23, 2017, 06:21:55 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on February 23, 2017, 04:18:44 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 22, 2017, 04:04:30 PM
According to this tweet Ben Fox, Huntingdon's Offensive Coordinator/QB Coach, has taken the same position at Centre.

https://twitter.com/CentreFootball/status/833875309195829248

Tim Conner also left recently to be an Offensive Analyst at Temple.

Coach Turk has an impressive coaching tree under him--Mike Rader now at ETSU and defensive coach that was at UT for a time to drop a couple. Ansley I think is the name?
Yep, Derrick Ansley is at Alabama now.

Also, Jimmy Rich, defensive assistant at John Carroll.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 05, 2017, 05:06:55 PM
Talked to a Guilford official over the weekend who said Greensboro asked to not play the GCQ/GCP Soup Bowl "at this time".  Sounds like Greensboro wanted to revitalize their program before they reenter a game with Guilford ... so after 20 years it's on hiatus.  I can't say I blame Greensboro, Guilford has won four in a row and the last three years by a cumulative 198-13 score.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 06, 2017, 12:01:02 PM
I wonder if Greensboro has ever contemplated going the way of Maranatha Baptist and dropping its football program?

(Full disclosure: this statement is a means to get a conversation going in the offset. Kinda serious, but then again, kinda not.)

Greensboro by the numbers:
1-9: last year's record
4: 2016's shutouts (214-0 against Guilford, Ferrum, NCWC, and Huntingdon) and lost 52-6 to Averett and 70-14 to Maryville.
5-5: best record they've had since adding football, have only seen that twice in the last 10 years.
700: total enrollment, give or take a few, according to Pat and Crew on d3football.com
1000: total enrollment, give or take a few, according to greensboro.edu
100: Players reported to camp
72: Players on roster
56: Freshman retention rate
10,000: seats in the high school stadium used for home games (granted there probably isn't much room to add an on-campus facility in Greensboro)
1,234: Average home attendance in 2015

I'm not saying they should drop it, I'm trying to stir the pot and get a discussion going.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on March 06, 2017, 12:51:37 PM
Marantha was in a different position. No conference and an inability to actually get enough players on campus is different than an inability to get competitive players on campus. Frankly, I'm guessing Greensboro needs those players paying tuition, as many as they can get. Marantha probably did too, but they gave up on actually being able to get them. Plus the costs of not being in a conference were burdensome for Marantha.

No, I'd say Greensboro considers having a football team a net positive, even if they struggle to win more than a game a year. If they stop bringing 100 to camp, and start having 40 or so on the roster, it may change quickly. But barring that, the benefits of having the team outweighs the inability of the team to win a game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 06, 2017, 01:30:45 PM
I would agree with your points. Better days may lay ahead for Greensboro.

I'd like to know what impact having 20+ "one and done" kids have on some football programs in our region.
According to MC's athletics website, there were 133 football participants in 2016 with an operating expense (team travel, lodging, and meals; uniforms and equipment; and officials) of $111,200 ($836 per participant). This figure does not include salaries for the head coach, 6 full time assistants, and 2 part time assistants.

Revenue for the football team was $775,849. No idea if salaries have been subtracted from this number.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on March 06, 2017, 01:39:34 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on March 06, 2017, 01:30:45 PM
I would agree with your points. Better days may lay ahead for Greensboro.

I'd like to know what impact having 20+ "one and done" kids have on some football programs in our region.
According to MC's athletics website, there were 133 football participants in 2016 with an operating expense (team travel, lodging, and meals; uniforms and equipment; and officials) of $111,200 ($836 per participant). This figure does not include salaries for the head coach, 6 full time assistants, and 2 part time assistants.

Revenue for the football team was $775,849. No idea if salaries have been subtracted from this number.

Quite frankly a "one and done" is a net positive for a small liberal arts school. Those schools have their highest revenue, per student, based on first years. First years live on campus and are required to purchase the food plan. They generally sit in the largest and most basic classes, which means they are in the cheapest class per student to teach. Finally, they tend to purchase the most amount of stuff at the campus store. Mainly because they start with very little and need to do things like decorate and wear t-shirts, etc.

First years tend to be high revenue, and that tends to decrease as students get older, move off campus, drop meal plans, and take smaller, higher level classes. So then it's just a matter of how much monetary support from the school the "one and dones" are getting. Regardless, reputation wise it's not good to have a ton of transfers, revenue wise there is some benefit to the concept.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 06, 2017, 03:01:35 PM
Greensboro has the third lowest retention rate in the USAC at 56%.
Others include:
Maryville 72%
NCWC 54%
Methodist 62%
Ferrum 48% (down in the last 5 years from 59%)
Averett 55%
LaGrange 61%
Huntingdon 64%
Brevard 59%

The highest 2 retention rates were from non-football schools in Covenant (85%) and Agnes Scott (84%). Only 2 non-football were lower than 70% with Wesleyan at 67% and William Peace at 64%.

For reference, here are a few ODAC retention rates:
HSC 83%
W&L 97%
E&H 73%
Guilford 74%
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on March 06, 2017, 03:22:34 PM
Geez those numbers are staggering. I think I was a little too sheltered at W&L. I can't imagine the pressure these schools are under to find even marginally qualified students to fill these classes knowing 40-50% of them aren't coming back the next year. I know we've convinced everyone to go to college, but at some point we have to realize that a good carpenter or plumber has better job prospects than a sociology degree from Fog a Mirror U.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 06, 2017, 03:59:27 PM
We live in a world where all 10th graders are "#D1Bound". If anything other than D1 seems to be beneath them, wouldn't being an HVAC technician be, too?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on March 07, 2017, 11:00:52 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on March 06, 2017, 03:59:27 PM
We live in a world where all 10th graders are "#D1Bound". If anything other than D1 seems to be beneath them, wouldn't being an HVAC technician be, too?

Well yeah. But I'm not even thinking about football, I'm thinking school retention in general. Someone has to be a carpenter and a plumber and an hvac guy. We live in a service economy. The fewer people want to pursue those services, the more demand and higher prices they will command. Is it better to be working at Starbucks with a degree in sociology from Fog a Mirror U, or be a finish carpenter with a completed apprenticeship and a list of contractors that need help? I know the general answer is a college degree is preferable, but I'm not sure that is always the case anymore. If one of my kids doesn't want to go to college, he or she will have the choice to learn a trade. H.S. can't be the end of your education, but I'm no longer positive that an undergraduate degree is always the best way forward. Especially at schools that retain only 50% of their enrolled kids, and have admittance rates of 70%+.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerFanAlso2 on March 08, 2017, 10:12:59 AM
Or you can be blue collar with a college degree; friend of mine graduated W&L in 1980 and has been a painter ever since he graduated; not an artist, a residential home painter and loves it. His Dad almost killed him when he choose his career path.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 08, 2017, 10:54:49 AM
Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on March 08, 2017, 10:12:59 AM
Or you can be blue collar with a college degree; friend of mine graduated W&L in 1980 and has been a painter ever since he graduated; not an artist, a residential home painter and loves it. His Dad almost killed him when he choose his career path.

Blue Collar with a degree might be going to the wayside with the rising cost of education. I'm not one of those "make everything free" guys, but I do have an issue with loan repayments. I'm make my argument as fast as possible...

Federal loans (subsidized or not) come from the Department of Education (DOE), a federal agency**. Personally, I have 8 federal loans I make one monthly payment on. A couple of the loans are at 3.4%, one or two around 5%, and four loans at 6.8%. WHAT? 6.8%? The gov'ment sure did take advantage of an 18 year old kid on those loans. The prime rate is around 3.75%, yet many of us are paying almost twice that. That's a big steaming pile of BS.

**I point out federal agency for the simple fact that the money is, for all intents and purposes, guaranteed. The DOE's budget comes from taxes. I pay taxes. If I don't, they place a tax lien on me. They take my assets. They get their money. Boom.        Does anyone else see things the way I do?

If politicians want to make college more affordable, all they have to do is make repayment of federal, guaranteed money more affordable. Set the interest rates at that particular year's prime rate and move on.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerFanAlso2 on March 08, 2017, 11:21:06 AM
Hard to argue but I learned along time ago, don't hold your breath waiting for a politician to do the right thing.

As a father with two currently in college and one that graduated in 2015, I'm well aware of the financial stress caused by cost of obtaining a four year degree. Problem is, most are forced to obtain a graduate degree of some sort, and those fees are even more expensive. I personally think the cost is beginning to out weight the benefit. Community College campuses will be exploding even more as cost continue to rise at tradition colleges and universities. The model is broken, time well tell if it can be fixed.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on March 08, 2017, 12:07:13 PM
Honestly, I think the most important thing we can do is stop equating Blue Collar with Low Class. I like the story about the guy being a house painter, but what a waste of money his degree was! I get at 17 or 18 we don't know what we want to be. That's not going to change. So you can't lock someone in. But that has to hurt!

I like to build furniture in my spare time. Our house is slowly being dotted with my own hobby, which fortunately my wife supports since our style is simple and chunky. I've also done a few custom pieces for friends here and there on commission. Could I have been happy being a finish carpenter? Hard to tell, but at 17 I wouldn't have even considered it. Nor would my parents have encouraged it.

That's the best thing about college. It gives you a few more years to make those decisions. And those are years most of us need. But the cost of those few more years sure is getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerFanAlso2 on March 08, 2017, 12:29:03 PM
never said blue collar equates to low class, don even think I implied it. most of my family works blue collar jobs(not requiring a college degree) either in the construction world or at one of the local industrial plants; not college educated is my point, certainly not low class. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 08, 2017, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on March 08, 2017, 12:29:03 PM
never said blue collar equates to low class, don even think I implied it. most of my family works blue collar jobs(not requiring a college degree) either in the construction world or at one of the local industrial plants; not college educated is my point, certainly not low class.

I don't think he was specifically calling you out, I think he meant society as a whole.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on March 08, 2017, 01:03:55 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on March 08, 2017, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on March 08, 2017, 12:29:03 PM
never said blue collar equates to low class, don even think I implied it. most of my family works blue collar jobs(not requiring a college degree) either in the construction world or at one of the local industrial plants; not college educated is my point, certainly not low class.

I don't think he was specifically calling you out, I think he meant society as a whole.

This. I hadn't seen it on the boards, it's just a prevailing societal thing that needs to change. Didn't mean to imply you had.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: tigerFanAlso2 on March 08, 2017, 01:09:45 PM
Never thought JK was calling me out. He really could have done so after W&L put up 52 on my Tigers, but even then, he choose not to.

I was just clarifying. I'm not a big believer in the need for a college degree, any person can always "make it" in this world w/o one. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 08, 2017, 01:12:48 PM
Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on March 08, 2017, 01:09:45 PM
Never thought JK was calling me out. He really could have done so after W&L put up 52 on my Tigers, but even then, he choose not to.

I was just clarifying. I'm not a big believer in the need for a college degree, any person can always "make it" in this world w/o one.

You must be the definition of a scholar and a gentleman, jk.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 08, 2017, 01:49:22 PM
Looks like I heard wrong...Maryville is playing E&H this year.
Berry has confirmed Week 1 against MC, and MC is at home this year against Hanover. That's 3 OOC games and 8 conference teams this year. I wonder who's out?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on March 08, 2017, 02:28:15 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on March 08, 2017, 01:12:48 PM
Quote from: tigerFanAlso2 on March 08, 2017, 01:09:45 PM
Never thought JK was calling me out. He really could have done so after W&L put up 52 on my Tigers, but even then, he choose not to.

I was just clarifying. I'm not a big believer in the need for a college degree, any person can always "make it" in this world w/o one.

You must be the definition of a scholar and a gentleman, jk.

Don't give me that much credit. I did call out your defense a bit, but I also know what goes around comes around and my Generals are going to be pretty young this year...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 08, 2017, 03:09:40 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on March 08, 2017, 01:49:22 PM
Looks like I heard wrong...Maryville is playing E&H this year.
Berry has confirmed Week 1 against MC, and MC is at home this year against Hanover. That's 3 OOC games and 8 conference teams this year. I wonder who's out?
Hmm. So three schools have published their 2017 schedules with Maryville as an out-of-conference game. Is it possible that Maryville doesn't play Brevard this first season in order to finish those contracts? It isn't like the Brevard game counts as a DIII conference game yet anyway so I guess it's possible.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 08, 2017, 04:18:10 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on March 08, 2017, 03:09:40 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on March 08, 2017, 01:49:22 PM
Looks like I heard wrong...Maryville is playing E&H this year.
Berry has confirmed Week 1 against MC, and MC is at home this year against Hanover. That's 3 OOC games and 8 conference teams this year. I wonder who's out?
Hmm. So three schools have published their 2017 schedules with Maryville as an out-of-conference game. Is it possible that Maryville doesn't play Brevard this first season in order to finish those contracts? It isn't like the Brevard game counts as a DIII conference game yet anyway so I guess it's possible.

I'd assume you're correct. Ferrum, Methodist, and LaGrange also have their schedules out, making a total of 6 games already posted.
E&H is in a bind due to Catholic leaving the ODAC and Hanover did us a favor by playing out of region and picking us up last year after we had the one game with ETSU. I was hoping MC would play at Brevard this year so I could have a reason to go to Asheville, but if they don't play this year hopefully there is a Brevard home game during Maryville's bye week.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 08, 2017, 08:32:36 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 06, 2017, 12:51:37 PM
Marantha was in a different position. No conference and an inability to actually get enough players on campus is different than an inability to get competitive players on campus. Frankly, I'm guessing Greensboro needs those players paying tuition, as many as they can get. Marantha probably did too, but they gave up on actually being able to get them. Plus the costs of not being in a conference were burdensome for Marantha.

No, I'd say Greensboro considers having a football team a net positive, even if they struggle to win more than a game a year. If they stop bringing 100 to camp, and start having 40 or so on the roster, it may change quickly. But barring that, the benefits of having the team outweighs the inability of the team to win a game.
Bingo.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on March 08, 2017, 09:54:06 PM
I think the right coach could be very successful at Greensboro.  They haven't recruited very well.  They never called my son and he went to HS 15 minutes away at a HS with lots of potential D3 talent.  My son was a 2 year starter at HSC on 2 ODAC championship teams.  The Greensboro campus is beautiful, it's right beside UNCG, and it's in downtown Greensboro. It also has a reputation as offering a quality education. The fact that their stadium is at a local high school hurts but several USA south programs have or had really bad facilities.  NCW plays at a local HS, Methodist plays at a below average college facility and until last year Averett played at the worst facility I'd ever seen.  NCW and Averett won USA South championships playing at their facilities and MU went 8-2 a few years a go.

Until recently Guilford college was IMO in the same shoes as Greensboro (the schools are 10 minutes apart).  But Guilford hired a coach that is as meticulous in recruiting as he is in coaching.  Now they dominate local recruiting.  Academically I don't see much difference in the 2 schools and it's not like the Quakers can point to a long tradition of excellence in football and their facilities are - now that Catholic left - the worst in the ODAC.  Yet according to HASA GC has beat Greensboro 198-13 in the last 3 years!  The Greensboro coach is going into his second year.  Time will tell but there's nothing stoping Greensboro from being a winner.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 09, 2017, 08:22:11 AM
I agree that a coach can turn things around, but he can't do it all by himself. Administration and alumni support is needed, and from what I can tell, GC isn't getting much of either.

After Coach Ierulli was let go at Maryville, the administration was forced to renew their efforts into the football team (1/10th of the student body) and alums followed suit. You can see how that turned out. Even with 3 years of Ierulli recruits remaining, MC was better. It wasn't the recruiting, it was the culture.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 09, 2017, 09:50:30 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on March 08, 2017, 09:54:06 PM
I think the right coach could be very successful at Greensboro.  They haven't recruited very well.  They never called my son and he went to HS 15 minutes away at a HS with lots of potential D3 talent.  My son was a 2 year starter at HSC on 2 ODAC championship teams.  The Greensboro campus is beautiful, it's right beside UNCG, and it's in downtown Greensboro. It also has a reputation as offering a quality education. The fact that their stadium is at a local high school hurts but several USA south programs have or had really bad facilities.  NCW plays at a local HS, Methodist plays at a below average college facility and until last year Averett played at the worst facility I'd ever seen.  NCW and Averett won USA South championships playing at their facilities and MU went 8-2 a few years a go.

Until recently Guilford college was IMO in the same shoes as Greensboro (the schools are 10 minutes apart).  But Guilford hired a coach that is as meticulous in recruiting as he is in coaching.  Now they dominate local recruiting.  Academically I don't see much difference in the 2 schools and it's not like the Quakers can point to a long tradition of excellence in football and their facilities are - now that Catholic left - the worst in the ODAC.  Yet according to HASA GC has beat Greensboro 198-13 in the last 3 years!  The Greensboro coach is going into his second year.  Time will tell but there's nothing stoping Greensboro from being a winner.
I completely disagree on the highlighted point.

You're correct, Guilford's football facilities are probably last in the ODAC.  They are light years ahead of where they were, but still good by DIII standards.  That being said, however, saying Guilford's football facilities are the worst in the ODAC is kind of like saying Cornell is the worst school in the Ivy League.   We'll get there.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on March 09, 2017, 11:02:26 AM
Both are small liberal arts colleges in Greensboro. Neither are renowned nationally or even regionally as superior academic institutions. Guilford caters to a lot of continuing education non-traditional students. Nothing wrong with that. A student from GC does not get favor over a student from Greensboro. Both offer a good liberal arts education. One thing that's very similar is that on Saturdays in the fall football is the last thing on many of the students' minds.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 13, 2017, 04:46:25 PM
I see Maryville's 2017 schedule up on d3football.com now. We were right, three non-conf games against Berry, Hanover, and @E&H with no Brevard. Open date Oct 7 before going to Huntingdon on Oct 14. Not too thrilled about that. ;)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 13, 2017, 05:00:11 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on March 13, 2017, 04:46:25 PM
I see Maryville's 2017 schedule up on d3football.com now. We were right, three non-conf games against Berry, Hanover, and @E&H with no Brevard. Open date Oct 7 before going to Huntingdon on Oct 14. Not too thrilled about that. ;)

Good. An extra week to rest and prepare to get the monkey off our backs!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 15, 2017, 12:02:31 PM
Huntingdon has published their schedule. It's the odd numbered/short road trip year with Brevard added to games at B'ham Southern and LaGrange.

Sat. 2   Guilford         1:00 PM   
Sat. 9   at Birmingham Southern         6:00 PM   
Sat. 16   N.C. Wesleyan *         1:00 PM   
Sat. 23   at Ferrum *         12:00 PM   
Sat. 30   at Brevard *         12:00 PM   

OCTOBER
Sat. 7   Averett *         1:00 PM   
Sat. 14   Maryville (Tenn.) *         1:00 PM   
Sat. 28   at Greensboro *         12:00 PM   

NOVEMBER
Sat. 4   Methodist *         1:00 PM   
Sat. 11   at LaGrange *         TBA
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 15, 2017, 03:07:29 PM
I hope Guilford is back to form after the injuries last year. Week 1 will be a damn good game if they are.



Looking forward to the 2017, I'd say there are 4 tiers in the league:

Top: Huntingdon and Maryville
Rising, but not quite there: Averett, Ferrum, NCWC
Slumping for no apparent reason: Methodist and LaGrange
Not a chance: Greensboro and Brevard

If there was a spring ball poll, and they cared about my opinion, I'd vote:

1a and 1b: Maryville and Huntingdon. Both are strong teams. Great coaching staffs. Great recruiting. Losing 2 strong QBs. I think it's neck and neck right now.
3. NCWC. I like how they have been playing in the recent years. They're bound to have a year were they put it all together.
4. Averett. I feel like Coach Adams is on to something in Danville. They've given MC a run for their money 2 years in a row.
5. Ferrum. Coach Grande had a good first year at Ferrum. Let's see if there is a sophomore slump.
6. Methodist. They were poised to be a top USAC team a few years ago. Has to be disappointing for Monarch fans.
7. LaGrange. Shocked they are not a yearly contender. One of two D3 teams in GA and have some good athletes.
8. Brevard. Coming down from D2. Time will tell what they have to offer the USAC. Lost to E&H last year.
9. Greensboro.  ::)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 15, 2017, 04:43:47 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on March 15, 2017, 03:07:29 PM


1a and 1b: Maryville and Huntingdon. Both are strong teams. Great coaching staffs. Great recruiting. Losing 2 strong QBs. I think it's neck and neck right now.

I appreciate it but I don't know if I am as optimistic that we can stay at the top this year. We're going to need a whole bunch of young guys to step up and be ready to play. In addition to the QB we also lost 2 of our top 3 RB's, 6 of our top 8 WR's, 3 of 5 starting OL and all but 2 or 3 of the 10 or 11 guys in the rotation on the DL. We also lost 3 offensive coaches so there's a lot of work to be done in Montgomery to stay at the top of the conference.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 15, 2017, 04:49:28 PM
If that's the case, I'll move HC down from 1a/b to 2. If that's not too harsh.


Your Hawks will be fine. I wouldn't lose sleep over it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 15, 2017, 04:51:34 PM
One of those coaches was Tim Conner, a Maryville grad. Glad to see he's moving up in the world. Temple is my new favorite AAC, not saying I had one to begin with.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 16, 2017, 12:00:59 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on March 15, 2017, 03:07:29 PM
I hope Guilford is back to form after the injuries last year. Week 1 will be a damn good game if they are.



Looking forward to the 2017, I'd say there are 4 tiers in the league:

Top: Huntingdon and Maryville
Rising, but not quite there: Averett, Ferrum, NCWC
Slumping for no apparent reason: Methodist and LaGrange
Not a chance: Greensboro and Brevard

If there was a spring ball poll, and they cared about my opinion, I'd vote:

1a and 1b: Maryville and Huntingdon. Both are strong teams. Great coaching staffs. Great recruiting. Losing 2 strong QBs. I think it's neck and neck right now.
3. NCWC. I like how they have been playing in the recent years. They're bound to have a year were they put it all together.
4. Averett. I feel like Coach Adams is on to something in Danville. They've given MC a run for their money 2 years in a row.
5. Ferrum. Coach Grande had a good first year at Ferrum. Let's see if there is a sophomore slump.
6. Methodist. They were poised to be a top USAC team a few years ago. Has to be disappointing for Monarch fans.
7. LaGrange. Shocked they are not a yearly contender. One of two D3 teams in GA and have some good athletes.
8. Brevard. Coming down from D2. Time will tell what they have to offer the USAC. Lost to E&H last year.
9. Greensboro.  ::)
I'm looking forward to this game as well.  With all the talent lost to graduation after 2015, I don't think anyone expected another 9-1 season in 2016 ... but we sure as heck didn't expect 4-6 either ... especially after a 4-0 start.  Anyone know if Huntingdon is returning the favor and coming to Guilford in 2018?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 16, 2017, 12:58:58 PM
I would have thought Guilford would have been in the 8-2/7-3 range after the 9-1 season. Tough breaks for the Quakers. We'll see if Huntingdon has found replacements to fill in the spots lost to graduation and whether or not Guilford can rebound fairly quickly. By far the most compelling USAC/ODAC game this fall IMO.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on March 16, 2017, 01:44:09 PM
Actually I'm pretty happy about the slate of ODAC/USASAC games this year. For once it doesn't necessarily seem like strength on weakness. Guilford/Huntingdon and E&H/Maryville are interesting. But so is Averett/HSC and Averett/RMC. I think Averett is on the way up, and those games back to back might provide some really interesting data about the state of the ODAC this year. N.C. Wes/Shenandoah could be good as well. The Ferrum and Methodist/Guilford game don't do much for me, but overall, this could be an interesting year for the ODAC/USASAC match ups. Mainly because Averett seems to be on the upswing.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 16, 2017, 03:58:28 PM
Quote from: hasanova on March 16, 2017, 12:00:59 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on March 15, 2017, 03:07:29 PM
I hope Guilford is back to form after the injuries last year. Week 1 will be a damn good game if they are.



Looking forward to the 2017, I'd say there are 4 tiers in the league:

Top: Huntingdon and Maryville
Rising, but not quite there: Averett, Ferrum, NCWC
Slumping for no apparent reason: Methodist and LaGrange
Not a chance: Greensboro and Brevard

If there was a spring ball poll, and they cared about my opinion, I'd vote:

1a and 1b: Maryville and Huntingdon. Both are strong teams. Great coaching staffs. Great recruiting. Losing 2 strong QBs. I think it's neck and neck right now.
3. NCWC. I like how they have been playing in the recent years. They're bound to have a year were they put it all together.
4. Averett. I feel like Coach Adams is on to something in Danville. They've given MC a run for their money 2 years in a row.
5. Ferrum. Coach Grande had a good first year at Ferrum. Let's see if there is a sophomore slump.
6. Methodist. They were poised to be a top USAC team a few years ago. Has to be disappointing for Monarch fans.
7. LaGrange. Shocked they are not a yearly contender. One of two D3 teams in GA and have some good athletes.
8. Brevard. Coming down from D2. Time will tell what they have to offer the USAC. Lost to E&H last year.
9. Greensboro.  ::)
I'm looking forward to this game as well.  With all the talent lost to graduation after 2015, I don't think anyone expected another 9-1 season in 2016 ... but we sure as heck didn't expect 4-6 either ... especially after a 4-0 start.  Anyone know if Huntingdon is returning the favor and coming to Guilford in 2018?
If I'm remembering right, I think I was told it is a four year deal.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 16, 2017, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 16, 2017, 01:44:09 PM
Actually I'm pretty happy about the slate of ODAC/USASAC games this year. For once it doesn't necessarily seem like strength on weakness. Guilford/Huntingdon and E&H/Maryville are interesting. But so is Averett/HSC and Averett/RMC. I think Averett is on the way up, and those games back to back might provide some really interesting data about the state of the ODAC this year. N.C. Wes/Shenandoah could be good as well. The Ferrum and Methodist/Guilford game don't do much for me, but overall, this could be an interesting year for the ODAC/USASAC match ups. Mainly because Averett seems to be on the upswing.

Does anyone know when the last time the USAC beat the ODAC during the OOC slate?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on March 16, 2017, 04:34:59 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on March 16, 2017, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 16, 2017, 01:44:09 PM
Actually I'm pretty happy about the slate of ODAC/USASAC games this year. For once it doesn't necessarily seem like strength on weakness. Guilford/Huntingdon and E&H/Maryville are interesting. But so is Averett/HSC and Averett/RMC. I think Averett is on the way up, and those games back to back might provide some really interesting data about the state of the ODAC this year. N.C. Wes/Shenandoah could be good as well. The Ferrum and Methodist/Guilford game don't do much for me, but overall, this could be an interesting year for the ODAC/USASAC match ups. Mainly because Averett seems to be on the upswing.

Does anyone know when the last time the USAC beat the ODAC during the OOC slate?

Nope. Not that old.  ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 16, 2017, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 16, 2017, 04:34:59 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on March 16, 2017, 04:24:46 PM
Quote from: jknezek on March 16, 2017, 01:44:09 PM
Actually I'm pretty happy about the slate of ODAC/USASAC games this year. For once it doesn't necessarily seem like strength on weakness. Guilford/Huntingdon and E&H/Maryville are interesting. But so is Averett/HSC and Averett/RMC. I think Averett is on the way up, and those games back to back might provide some really interesting data about the state of the ODAC this year. N.C. Wes/Shenandoah could be good as well. The Ferrum and Methodist/Guilford game don't do much for me, but overall, this could be an interesting year for the ODAC/USASAC match ups. Mainly because Averett seems to be on the upswing.



Does anyone know when the last time the USAC beat the ODAC during the OOC slate?

Nope. Not that old.  ;D

We might have still been the Dixie!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on April 07, 2017, 01:20:14 PM
Looking around different conference member's websites, I came across an article outlining Brevard's spring practice. It looks like they are practicing with helmet with 3 full padded scrimmages...is there a reason they are doing this? If they are moving to D3 and the USAC shouldn't they have to conduct spring ball like the other 220+ member schools?

http://bctornados.com/article.asp?articleID=4661
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 07, 2017, 04:58:08 PM
I think they don't officially start the transition until sometime during the summer so technically they are still D2 so can do what D2 allows.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on April 07, 2017, 05:21:36 PM
Yep, they are not transitional members of D-III until July 1. Belhaven did the same thing a couple years ago, coming from NAIA. (And I mention that because it didn't seem to help them much.)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on April 07, 2017, 07:44:27 PM
Good point.

Pat, I agree. Barring a complete overhaul, it probably won't help.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on April 10, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
Brevard released its schedule. All the USAC minus MC; E&H, Davidson, and Virginia-Lynchburg.

On the VUL subject, I hope Birmingham Southern is back in line to scrimmage MC this year and not VUL.

http://bctornados.com/article.asp?articleID=4686

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on April 10, 2017, 10:39:21 AM
New coach at BSC this year. I'm guessing more rational decisions will start to be made there. Some anecdotal evidence from people in my office with junior/senior age football players shows they are actually recruiting as well.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on April 10, 2017, 11:33:29 AM
BSC had a couple years where they looked to be on a roll and making something out of a newer program. They went the LaGrange route instead of the Huntingdon route, which is a shame.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 10, 2017, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on April 10, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
Brevard released its schedule. All the USAC minus MC; E&H, Davidson, and Virginia-Lynchburg.

On the VUL subject, I hope Birmingham Southern is back in line to scrimmage MC this year and not VUL.

http://bctornados.com/article.asp?articleID=4686
I hope VUL will just go away ... what a joke ... both academically and athletically.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on April 10, 2017, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: hasanova on April 10, 2017, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on April 10, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
Brevard released its schedule. All the USAC minus MC; E&H, Davidson, and Virginia-Lynchburg.

On the VUL subject, I hope Birmingham Southern is back in line to scrimmage MC this year and not VUL.

http://bctornados.com/article.asp?articleID=4686
I hope VUL will just go away ... what a joke ... both academically and athletically.

Agreed.


On another note, hasa, Davidson must be hurting...2 D3's on the schedule this year. At least we'll get to see how Brevard and Guilford match up with a common opponent. It has  to be a good possibility for a game or two in years to come.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on April 10, 2017, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on April 10, 2017, 02:05:29 PM
On another note, hasa, Davidson must be hurting...2 D3's on the schedule this year. At least we'll get to see how Brevard and Guilford match up with a common opponent. It has  to be a good possibility for a game or two in years to come.

Since joining the Pioneer League they have gone 1-31 in football in conference. Frankly they are in a crappy position in a league that must be killing them cost wise. They played games in KY, IN, CA, and upstate NY last year. This year they play twice in FL, once in IA and once in KY. Lot of money to spend every year travelling around, so finding those OOC games, at any level, where they can play local is probably a lifesaver. It probably doesn't matter what division since they know they aren't going anywhere post season and it also is most likely the only way they are going to pick up a couple wins.

Hope DI basketball is worth it boys!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on April 10, 2017, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 10, 2017, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on April 10, 2017, 02:05:29 PM
On another note, hasa, Davidson must be hurting...2 D3's on the schedule this year. At least we'll get to see how Brevard and Guilford match up with a common opponent. It has  to be a good possibility for a game or two in years to come.

Since joining the Pioneer League they have gone 1-31 in football in conference. Frankly they are in a crappy position in a league that must be killing them cost wise. They played games in KY, IN, CA, and upstate NY last year. This year they play twice in FL, once in IA and once in KY. Lot of money to spend every year travelling around, so finding those OOC games, at any level, where they can play local is probably a lifesaver. It probably doesn't matter what division since they know they aren't going anywhere post season and it also is most likely the only way they are going to pick up a couple wins.

Hope DI basketball is worth it boys!

Probably is. 17-15 this year including a 9 point loss to UNC.  Although, they have got to be one of the smallest D1 school that have a football team. An enrollment of 1,950 is crazy low.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on April 11, 2017, 11:08:06 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on April 10, 2017, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: jknezek on April 10, 2017, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on April 10, 2017, 02:05:29 PM
On another note, hasa, Davidson must be hurting...2 D3's on the schedule this year. At least we'll get to see how Brevard and Guilford match up with a common opponent. It has  to be a good possibility for a game or two in years to come.

Since joining the Pioneer League they have gone 1-31 in football in conference. Frankly they are in a crappy position in a league that must be killing them cost wise. They played games in KY, IN, CA, and upstate NY last year. This year they play twice in FL, once in IA and once in KY. Lot of money to spend every year travelling around, so finding those OOC games, at any level, where they can play local is probably a lifesaver. It probably doesn't matter what division since they know they aren't going anywhere post season and it also is most likely the only way they are going to pick up a couple wins.

Hope DI basketball is worth it boys!

Probably is. 17-15 this year including a 9 point loss to UNC.  Although, they have got to be one of the smallest D1 school that have a football team. An enrollment of 1,950 is crazy low.
Davidson has a very healthy endowment and recruits students nationally and internationally, so I don't think the travel cost is a stretch for them.  With Campbell leaving the Pioneer for full Big South membership and FCS in 2018, both DC and JU will be looking for games to fill their schedules.  Guilford used to play Davidson often, but Jacksonville will be the first time.  It's only 86 miles from the Guilford College campus to the Davidson campus, but 466 miles to JU.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on May 05, 2017, 09:01:27 AM
Stopped by campus yesterday afternoon for the Orange & Garnet Spring (two hand touch) Game. Defense looked better than last year and it seems JR Adam Diggs is the front runner for taking over under center. There's also some transfer (don't know what school) WR that looks like he can play some ball. I'm excited for Sept. 2. Just under 4 months away...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HansenRatings on June 14, 2017, 01:44:28 PM
Decided I'm going to spam every conference board with my preseason (non-returning-starter-adjusted) projections.


Team   Rating   Overall   Conference
Huntingdon      0.8696   8.0-1.0   6.2-0.8
Maryville      0.7795   7.6-2.4   5.4-1.6
NC Wesleyan   0.6646   5.3-3.7   4.6-2.4
Averett         0.4437   4.1-4.9   3.5-3.5
Ferrum         0.3952   3.3-4.7   3.1-3.9
Methodist      0.3819   3.4-4.6   3.0-4.0
LaGrange      0.2142   2.4-6.6   1.9-5.1
Greensboro      0.0229   0.7-7.3   0.2-6.8

I don't really know enough about any of these teams to say anything you all don't probably know. Anything about this surprise anyone?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 14, 2017, 01:56:04 PM
Sounds about right. That's how I would vote if we were doing a pre-season poll other than adding Brevard between LaGrange and Greensboro.
Little surprised at the 22 point difference between NCWC and Averett though. They're in the "right" spots, but I think they're a little closer to one another.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HansenRatings on June 14, 2017, 02:21:10 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on June 14, 2017, 01:56:04 PM
Sounds about right. That's how I would vote if we were doing a pre-season poll other than adding Brevard between LaGrange and Greensboro.
Little surprised at the 22 point difference between NCWC and Averett though. They're in the "right" spots, but I think they're a little closer to one another.

Brevard! Forgot about them. I'll add them to the mix and see how it shakes out.

As for NC Wesleyan and Averett, a lot of it has to do with where they started last season, and Averett performing poorly at the end of the season (and hence, their ratings from 2+ years ago that are built into the preseason ratings). NC Wesleyan has been persistently slightly better than Averett over that time span, which works out to a relatively large difference for this preseason. Here's their ratings over the last 4 seasons:
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKJ1bXJM.png&hash=296bbc52505fda109d643f956ab955fcae7be098)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HansenRatings on June 14, 2017, 02:51:53 PM
Updated to include Brevard:


Team   Rating   Overall   Conference
Huntingdon      0.8696   8.7-1.3   6.9-1.1
Maryville      0.7795   7.6-2.4   5.4-1.6
NC Wesleyan   0.6646   5.9-4.1   5.2-2.8
Brevard      0.6337   5.3-2.7   4.7-2.3
Averett         0.4437   4.3-5.7   3.8-4.2
Ferrum         0.3952   3.6-5.4   3.3-4.7
Methodist      0.3819   3.7-5.3   3.4-4.6
LaGrange      0.2142   2.6-7.4   2.0-6.0
Greensboro      0.0229   0.8-8.2   0.3-7.7

My methodology for incorporating teams from different divisions isn't the best. I basically just take a team's ratings from Massey the previous 4 season and adjust them to be on the same scale as my system. It's missed pretty big recently (NWU was predicted to finish last in the IIAC last year, and they were nearly 0.500, and McMurry was supposed to be the second-best team in the ASC in 2015, and... well... they finished below 0.500), but did pretty well back in the mid-aughts (Trine, Westminster Pa, others). I think the trend is that my method overrates former DII schools, and it underrates NAIA schools. There's obviously something very different about a team going from DII to DIII than from NAIA to DIII ($$$$$$), so maybe the impact of roster turnover hits DII schools harder than NAIA? I dunno. Maybe I'll check it out more over the summer.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 14, 2017, 03:29:00 PM
Well, Brevard lost 28-14 on the road to E&H last year and beat Apprentice 38-7 at home (their only win). Methodist eeked past NNA, and Greensboro lost to them pretty badly, so you have some comparison that would put your positioning of Brevard, based on recent historical results, in the right area. On the other hand, E&H did squeak past Ferrum, and the Wasps handled Brevard easily, so that is something to consider. Finally, E&H lost by a score to M'Ville, lending credence to not moving Brevard up any higher.

I think you could argue Brevard is a spot or 2 too high, but given the available data I wouldn't argue very much.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HansenRatings on June 14, 2017, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 14, 2017, 03:29:00 PM
Well, Brevard lost 28-14 on the road to E&H last year and beat Apprentice 38-7 at home (their only win). Methodist eeked past NNA, and Greensboro lost to them pretty badly, so you have some comparison that would put your positioning of Brevard, based on recent historical results, in the right area. On the other hand, E&H did squeak past Ferrum, and the Wasps handled Brevard easily, so that is something to consider. Finally, E&H lost by a score to M'Ville, lending credence to not moving Brevard up any higher.

I think you could argue Brevard is a spot or 2 too high, but given the available data I wouldn't argue very much.

Yeah, I was looking at those two results too for some bearing against DIII competition. I would say that they're probably in the right spot here, but they're probably closer to a rating of 0.500 than 0.650, which is about the difference between a #95 national ranking and a #125 national ranking. Would probably decrease their win probability by a cumulative 1.0-0.5 games over the course of a 10-game schedule.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 19, 2017, 02:50:28 PM
After further thought, Brevard might not be an automatic basement in the USAC  ::). I guess time will tell how Brevard deals with the move down a division and the loss of scholarship money and bringing in a new coach.

Thank you Hansen for the chance to discuss the upcoming season in June. Your time and talents are appreciated.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on June 27, 2017, 02:02:57 PM
Goodbye Ferrum: http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2017/06/odac-expands-to-add-ferrum
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 27, 2017, 04:54:12 PM
There used to be Averett, CNU, Ferrum, Shenadoah as VA football members and now we're down to just Averett. I guess that's why we're the USA South and not the USA Mid-Atlantic. ::)

Happy to see they have a new home and both conferences get back to 8 football members.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on June 27, 2017, 05:12:34 PM
Not many people consider Virginia the Mid-Atlantic... but okay.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 27, 2017, 05:22:28 PM
We must've  studied different textbooks in grade school, but I won't hold it against you.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HansenRatings on June 27, 2017, 05:25:01 PM
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Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 29, 2017, 09:25:39 AM
Born and raised in Va...always thought we were in mid-atlantic
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 29, 2017, 09:28:17 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 29, 2017, 09:25:39 AM
Born and raised in Va...always thought we were in mid-atlantic

I think North Va mostly considers itself Mid-Atlantic. I think southern Virginia, and especially SW Virginia, considers itself Deep South.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on June 29, 2017, 09:31:01 AM
Quote from: jknezek on June 29, 2017, 09:28:17 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 29, 2017, 09:25:39 AM
Born and raised in Va...always thought we were in mid-atlantic

I think North Va mostly considers itself Mid-Atlantic. I think southern Virginia, and especially SW Virginia, considers itself Deep South.

Could be....I'm in SE......perhaps the southern roots and history still have some folks thinking that way. I just look at it geographically. Heck, I would even consider NC as mid atlantic...but the folks in Charlotte probably don't think that at all. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 29, 2017, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 29, 2017, 09:31:01 AM
Quote from: jknezek on June 29, 2017, 09:28:17 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on June 29, 2017, 09:25:39 AM
Born and raised in Va...always thought we were in mid-atlantic

I think North Va mostly considers itself Mid-Atlantic. I think southern Virginia, and especially SW Virginia, considers itself Deep South.

Could be....I'm in SE......perhaps the southern roots and history still have some folks thinking that way. I just look at it geographically. Heck, I would even consider NC as mid atlantic...but the folks in Charlotte probably don't think that at all.

Actually the people in Charlotte probably would be closer to that thinking than the folks outside Charlotte. Capitol city or not, the huge banking and insurance presence means a whole lot of NYC area folks live in the Charlotte area. Part of the issue with considering yourself Mid-Atlantic is severing ties to the Confederacy, and there's a lot of tradition and pride in old Southern families for their role in The War of Northern Aggression. I live in AL but grew up in NJ before school at W&L. I've suffered the culture shock and paid the price for questioning how it can be "The War of Northern Aggression" when the Rebels fired the first shots.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 29, 2017, 10:11:02 AM
Virginia is like a venn diagram of sorts when it comes to its regional identity. When contrasting the whole of the US, it's a southern state; when contrasting the East Coast and Deep South, it's Mid Atlantic.

But to jk's point, much of modern VA has more in common with MD and PA than it does with GA, AL, MS, etc. Remember that VA for a short time was on the fence about secession, even shot down the idea at one point (although it didn't take long for the change of heart)...Richmond was strategically located in the 1860's more so than was Montgomery. Loyalty was to the states and not the Union or the Confederacy. Lee, Jackson, Stuart, et al. had no choice but to join the CSA. I dare say Lee couldn't give a rat's a$$ about a MS or AL plantation owner. But that's just my thought.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on June 29, 2017, 11:37:08 AM
What to make of East Tennessee, then?  Blount County, where Maryville is, voted overwhelmingly against secession twice and East Tennessee by and large did not embrace the Confederacy.  Never mind what the flagwavers think.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on June 29, 2017, 11:41:08 AM
Quote from: scottiedoug on June 29, 2017, 11:37:08 AM
What to make of East Tennessee, then?  Blount County, where Maryville is, voted overwhelmingly against secession twice and East Tennessee by and large did not embrace the Confederacy.  Never mind what the flagwavers think.

Good point. As you know, there are many "versions" of Tennessee depending on who you ask. Memphis and Maryville have as much in common as 4th cousins twice removed. Many people I know say they are from East Tennessee instead of simply saying Tennessee.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 29, 2017, 12:08:19 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on June 29, 2017, 11:37:08 AM
What to make of East Tennessee, then?  Blount County, where Maryville is, voted overwhelmingly against secession twice and East Tennessee by and large did not embrace the Confederacy.  Never mind what the flagwavers think.

That's pretty much the story in many of the Confederacy States at the time. They weren't much more homogeneous in the 1860s than the country is now. For example, check out the story of "The Free State of Winston" or "The Republic of Winston". The Union Army even had a 1st Alabama Cavalry Regiment.

Arkansas, Mississippi, and TN had small or large areas of similar discontent with the Confederacy.

Regardless, and to bring back our DIII content, I think up and around D.C. and out to Shenandoah U, and perhaps even down toward the Harrisonburg/EMU area, many Virginians probably would be happy to affiliate with the Mid-Atlantic nowadays. Out by W&L and down to E&H territory, and given the history across toward RMC around Richmond, Virginians probably still mostly consider themselves Southerners.

In very generic terms of course.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on June 29, 2017, 01:44:17 PM
This reminds me of the look on people's faces when I remind them the Mason-Dixon line is between Maryland and Pennsylvania (and Delaware) and actually has NOTHING to do with the Civil War (line was set well before those days). There is a sign on I-83 just north of where I live on the border with PA that simply says "Mason-Dixon Line."
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 14, 2017, 04:02:24 PM
Has anybody heard any information on Media Day this year? Usually the last Friday of July but haven't read anything about it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 19, 2017, 11:00:10 AM
No media day this year.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 01, 2017, 03:20:38 PM
Congratulations to Maryville's Ethan Williams on being named a D3football.com Preseason All-American (2nd team safety)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 08, 2017, 10:19:29 PM
123 players report today at Huntingdon, 76 of those are returning players. A bit smaller freshman class than usual. Hopefully more quality than quantity this year with all the open positions? We'll see. Looking forward to seeing what we've got.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 09, 2017, 08:09:05 AM
I'd take a a class of 40-something over a class of 60+ any year.

I have no idea what kind of numbers Maryville has coming in. Roaming around on social media over the off-season leads me to believe we might have smaller freshmen numbers than in years past.  Freshmen report today. I heard way back in January or February we have a transfer coming in that was once a walk-on at UAB. We'll see if that rumor is true in a couple of days.


Also just learned UAB was a DIII independent back in the early 90's. The more ya know.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 09, 2017, 12:01:09 PM
I think Samford footbal was DIII for a few years in the '80s when they started it up.

Now to call up the roster page and refresh it 20 or 30 times a day until the freshmen are added so I can look up high-light videos. ;)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 09, 2017, 12:22:17 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 09, 2017, 12:01:09 PM
I think Samford footbal was DIII for a few years in the '80s when they started it up.

Now to call up the roster page and refresh it 20 or 30 times a day until the freshmen are added so I can look up high-light videos. ;)

Bobby Bowden's first game/win as a head coach was the 1959 season opener against the Orange and Garnet. 14-0 Howard/Samford. Coach Ierulli found the game film in storage my sophomore or junior year (can't remember which one) and showed the team.

Found an article saying Samford was D3 in '87 and made the jump to I-AA in '89. Good catch, Hawks. http://americansportsnet.com/news/greatest-moments-samford-launched-the-legacy-of-bobby-bowden-and-sons
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 09, 2017, 02:36:59 PM
http://usasouth.net/sports/fball/2017-18/releases/20170808gh4lr8

2017 USA South Coaches Preseason Football Poll
Rank   Institution (1st Place Votes)   Pts.
t-1.   Huntingdon (4)   45
t-1.   Maryville (3)   45
3.   N.C. Wesleyan   37
4.   Ferrum (1)   32
5.   Averett   25
6.   LaGrange   17
7.   Methodist   16
8.   Greensboro   7
--   *Brevard   -
*Ineligible for USA South Championship (Div. III Reclassifying Member)


Personally, any of the top 5 can make a run at it this year. I think NCWC has the best shot outside of Huntingdon or Maryville. Over the last 2 seasons, they've beaten Huntingdon and Maryville...maybe they can do both this year?

24 more days!!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 14, 2017, 03:04:48 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 08, 2017, 10:19:29 PM
123 players report today at Huntingdon, 76 of those are returning players.

About the same numbers for Maryville from what I've heard. 75-ish returners and a freshman class of 60 or so. Listened to the weekly Blount Co. sports report on the radio Saturday-- MC has all 11 starters on defense back plus 5 or 6 high rep guys and 7 on offense. If we can get constant play from a first year starting QB, this might be a fun year.

Edit:

The USAC office is posting videos on YouTube for previews this year...Brevard's first of the list. Crazy number: 24. As in 24 players on the spring roster.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 31, 2017, 11:25:56 PM
Ouch.  Campbell 70, Methodist 0.  Sixty-two yards total offense for MU.  Looks like Campbell is already gearing up for next year's shift to DI scholarship.  I realize this is a bit of a mismatch, but hope MU didn't have any injuries.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 01, 2017, 08:00:11 AM
I caught the second half last night. Ouch is the right word, but to be fair to MU they were a 3-6 team a year ago. There's about 15 teams in our division that could blast MU the same way, or even worse.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 01, 2017, 12:10:10 PM
Several key games to watch tomorrow.

Berry @ Maryville-- JR Adam Diggs is expected to take the reigns this year under center. Won 3 state titles at Fulton (Knoxville) High School. If Maryville can limit mistakes on offense, the defense should be able to hold steady. Maryville by 9

Guilford @ Huntingdon-- How does Huntingdon do with a new QB and the loss of 30 seniors off of last year's team? Can Guilford rebound from last year? Huntingdon is Huntingdon until further notice. Hawks by at least 14

Ferrum @ E&H-- E&H has too much talent back on offense. Sorry, Ferrum. E&H by 20

Averett @ HSC-- toss up. Both teams need to win if they want to show they are in the hunt in November. I'm giving the edge to HSC. Tigers by 7

Other games:

NCWC @ Mount Union--duh
Greensboro @ Apprentice
Birmingham Southern @ LaGrange--Battle of First Year Coaches. Alabama Panthers win.
Brevard @ Davidson
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 02, 2017, 04:06:10 PM
Our offense line is terrible and the defense couldn't get off the field. Special teams units played well. Need to strike down the field more.

Less than a minute to go and we fumble at the 2. 30-24 Berry.



Couple very good freshmen. Caine Adamson had good command of the offense when he was. Left game in the second half due to injury. Khashawn Decker (returner/RB) is some kind of quick.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 02, 2017, 07:12:51 PM
Guilford played well on the road.  Bent, but did not break.  No turnovers.  Close stats 561 yards GC, 548 HC.  97 yard TD pass and a goal line stand for the Quakers.  GC punter was better today. HC may be slightly overrated and GC slightly underrated.  At any rate, great time tailgating with jknezek and Hawks88.  Very hospitable Huntingdon fans.  Thank you.  Go Quakers!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 02, 2017, 08:21:19 PM
Good to meet you today, Hasa. Just too many mistakes by our young team. There were enough good plays to give hope but our defense just couldn't string enough together to get off the field a lot of times. The key point of the game was HC having first and goal at the 2 late in the third and not scoring then turning around and giving up the 97 yd TD pass on 3rd and 8. The offense moved the ball well enough most of the game but left points out there with the goal line stand and a missed FG in the 1st. If the offense can finish drives and the D can cut down on big plays and get off the field then we can win some games. If not it could be a long year.
Not a good opening week for the USAC over all with Ferrum being the only one to get a win.
Trip to Birmingham for BSC next week for the Hawks.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on September 02, 2017, 11:30:29 PM
USAC took it on the chin this weekend.  Wow. 1-8. Scores of 70-0, 58-0, 30-7 and 39-7. The predicted conference champ losses by 14 at home to precticted 5th place ODAC team. Ferrum, USAC predicted 4th, holds EH ODAC predicted 1st to two FGs and a safety.  But overall a very ugly weekend. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 03, 2017, 10:29:35 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on September 02, 2017, 11:30:29 PM
USAC took it on the chin this weekend.  Wow. 1-8. Scores of 70-0, 58-0, 30-7 and 39-7. The predicted conference champ losses by 14 at home to precticted 5th place ODAC team. Ferrum, USAC predicted 4th, holds EH ODAC predicted 1st to two FGs and a safety.  But overall a very ugly weekend.

I agree. The USAC had an ugly weekend. Let's break it down a bit.

Methodist, a 3 game winner in 2016, lost to FCS Campbell 70-0. No surprise. Hell, a D3 school can beat another D3 school worse-look at Saint's John's 98-0 win yesterday.

NC Wesleyan, a middle of the pack USAC team for the last half decade or so, traveled to Alliance, Ohio and got beat 58-0 to a probable Stagg Bowl team.

Brevard, a new USAC team, lost to FCS Davidson 30-7. Brevard couldn't beat a D3 team when they were D2; is it a surprise they lost? Plus the fact they had 24 returning players on their roster from last year, not too bad.

Greensboro lost to Apprentice 39-7. Greensboro losses to everybody. Per your posts on the Rally in Richmond, this should have been expected.

LaGrange lost to BSC in the battle of new coaches. LaGrange is usually on the lower end of the conference, so any OOC loss is no surprise. LC had 4 turnovers in a 29-25 game. That's a recipe for defeat.

Averett lost a close game to your Tigers. Thank God.

Huntingdon lost by 14 to Guilford, probably the biggest surprise of the day. I watched bits and pieces of the second half. Huntingdon is not the same Huntingdon as it stands now...just like Maryville the new guy under center needs some time. They'll be fine. Might be that Guilford surprises some people this year.

Maryville lost to Berry 30-24. Less than a minute to go in the game, complete a 25 yard pass to the 2 and fumble trying to stretch it in for the score. It was the last thing I thought about last night and the first thing I thought about this morning.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on September 03, 2017, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 03, 2017, 10:29:35 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger fan on September 02, 2017, 11:30:29 PM
USAC took it on the chin this weekend.  Wow. 1-8. Scores of 70-0, 58-0, 30-7 and 39-7. The predicted conference champ losses by 14 at home to precticted 5th place ODAC team. Ferrum, USAC predicted 4th, holds EH ODAC predicted 1st to two FGs and a safety.  But overall a very ugly weekend.

I agree. The USAC had an ugly weekend. Let's break it down a bit.

Methodist, a 3 game winner in 2016, lost to FCS Campbell 70-0. No surprise. Hell, a D3 school can beat another D3 school worse-look at Saint's John's 98-0 win yesterday.

NC Wesleyan, a middle of the pack USAC team for the last half decade or so, traveled to Alliance, Ohio and got beat 58-0 to a probable Stagg Bowl team.

Brevard, a new USAC team, lost to FCS Davidson 30-7. Brevard couldn't beat a D3 team when they were D2; is it a surprise they lost? Plus the fact they had 24 returning players on their roster from last year, not too bad.

Greensboro lost to Apprentice 39-7. Greensboro losses to everybody. Per your posts on the Rally in Richmond, this should have been expected.

LaGrange lost to BSC in the battle of new coaches. LaGrange is usually on the lower end of the conference, so any OOC loss is no surprise. LC had 4 turnovers in a 29-25 game. That's a recipe for defeat.

Averett lost a close game to your Tigers. Thank God.

Huntingdon lost by 14 to Guilford, probably the biggest surprise of the day. I watched bits and pieces of the second half. Huntingdon is not the same Huntingdon as it stands now...just like Maryville the new guy under center needs some time. They'll be fine. Might be that Guilford surprises some people this year.

Maryville lost to Berry 30-24. Less than a minute to go in the game, complete a 25 yard pass to the 2 and fumble trying to stretch it in for the score. It was the last thing I thought about last night and the first thing I thought about this morning.

Good break down. But I will point out that Davidson and Campbell may be FCS but neither offers scholarships. If either were D3 teams I doubt they would be considered top 25 teams.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 03, 2017, 12:48:56 PM
Granted they are non-scholarship programs, but they have many advantages over other non-scholarship programs. One being facilities, and another is being FCS--even if they don't offer scholarships. Recruits place value on division of play, even if you don't get money from the athletics budget. If you haven't seen the red zone hit Campbell had on an MU back, you might want to find that online. SportsCenter tweeted a short video. If I'm not mistaken and my ears aren't failing me, the defender that made the hit transferred in from South Carolina.

I don't know if they would be Top 25 or not, but I have a feeling they would be in the mix.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on September 03, 2017, 01:18:09 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 03, 2017, 12:48:56 PM
Granted they are non-scholarship programs, but they have many advantages over other non-scholarship programs. One being facilities, and another is being FCS--even if they don't offer scholarships. Recruits place value on division of play, even if you don't get money from the athletics budget. If you haven't seen the red zone hit Campbell had on an MU back, you might want to find that online. SportsCenter tweeted a short video. If I'm not mistaken and my ears aren't failing me, the defender that made the hit transferred in from South Carolina.

I don't know if they would be Top 25 or not, but I have a feeling they would be in the mix.

My son was recruited by Campbell, Davidson and Morehead none offered facilities better than HSC. But I do agree recruits place a value on the D1 designation. The recruits at Davidson are not cut any slack academically. The average SAT score has to be close to 1350 and it costs about 60k to go there. They have to be very selective of their recruits.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 03, 2017, 05:19:58 PM
I don't think there were too many surprises in the USASAC slate. Going 1-8 is not good, but Scots13 has a good point that they probably were expected to do no better than 3-6, maybe 4-5 if everything broke their way. 2 or 3 extra losses is significant, and it's a bad look, but it's not like  they were favored in 6 games and lost all but one.

Huntingdon did not look right. I was there, and that was not the Huntingdon team I'm used to seeing. That being said, Guilford looked a lot better than I expected. Guilford's QB is big and strong and has an arm. With a little more touch on his throws, especially in the pocket, he will be hard to handle for anyone in the ODAC. Combine that with having to worry about their two good running backs and Guilford is going to be much better than last year.

I'm surprised M'Ville lost at home. Yes it was last second to a good team, but it was a toss up last year when Berry was a year 4 program and M'Ville travelled. To lose to a Year 5 at home means Berry didn't have much drop off, somewhat rare for a Year 5 team, or M'Ville took a step back.

Averett just about took out HSC. While I think Averett is better than they've been, that's not a good look for HSC. Especially in Farmville. Well done for the Tigers for gutting it out, but I'm not holding my breath HSC is back to where they have consistently lived the last 15 years or so. The top of the ODAC still seems out of reach based on what I saw and read of this one.

Ferrum is going to have a chip on their shoulder with their ODAC OOC games. E&H seems to be living up to my prediction of being head cases. A bad loss for a team expected to compete and possible win the ODAC, a good look for Ferrum. Congratulations to them.

As for the others, who cares? Greensboro is expected to be the worst team in the South Region, they look willing to live down to it unfortunately. Guilford has to play Davidson in a few weeks, we'll see how that goes. LaGrange and BSC are both mired in mediocrity at best and who knows what Brevard has, but probably not so much from a few different reports I got about the W&L scrimmage.

NC Wesleyan was going to get pasted. Just don't talk about it. If you want to schedule a game like that, do it against Davidson and get paid for it. "I want to show my kids the best so they can grow" only works if you can actually see the level the other team is bludgeoning you from. NC Wes couldn't and neither can anyone else in the ODAC or USASAC right now. It was a waste of two games for where NC Wes is as a program in my opinion. And, as I indicated above, NC Wes would be far from the only school around that I would say that about.

Methodist? Again, if you aren't a Methodist fan who cares? Take the money and invest it in your program. Stop bringing 200 kids to camp and having just a few seniors. It's ridiculous. Do better recruiting and stop seeing easy tuition checks from gullible h.s. seniors. It's beneath a school that is trying to do what is right for their students.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 03, 2017, 06:14:50 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 02, 2017, 08:21:19 PM
Good to meet you today, Hasa. Just too many mistakes by our young team. There were enough good plays to give hope but our defense just couldn't string enough together to get off the field a lot of times. The key point of the game was HC having first and goal at the 2 late in the third and not scoring then turning around and giving up the 97 yd TD pass on 3rd and 8. The offense moved the ball well enough most of the game but left points out there with the goal line stand and a missed FG in the 1st. If the offense can finish drives and the D can cut down on big plays and get off the field then we can win some games. If not it could be a long year.
Not a good opening week for the USAC over all with Ferrum being the only one to get a win.
Trip to Birmingham for BSC next week for the Hawks.

Go Hawks!
Thanks, Hawks88.  Thanks again for the hospitality at your tailgate.  It was a beautiful day for football.  I agree, a couple of key plays were the goal line stand and the ensuing 97 yard TD pass.  I think it is also significant that GC had no turnovers.  I was worried when HC took their one lead at 17-14 with the opening drive in the 3rd quarter ... appeared too easy, but the Quakers finished strong.  If this is a 4-year deal, I hope you will make the trip to Greensboro in 2018 ... Guilford has a beautiful campus.  Good luck to the Hawks the rest of the season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 03, 2017, 08:18:59 PM
I was surprised that Berry is as good as they are for a Year 5 team, but I think they are on par with last year's team. Plenty of size, speed, and skill. Maryville did a fine job of shooting themselves in the foot, but that's football. Diggs will get better under center, and I'm glad to see a freshman QB step up. I hope his ankle (?) injury isn't too bad. Bright future.

We'll be ok, but I think our offense has taken a step back in the early going. Most improvement is between Week 1 and Week 2, or so I've been told.

Most of us thought the ODAC would be log jammed this year, but the USAC might be too.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger fan on September 03, 2017, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 03, 2017, 05:19:58 PM
I don't think there were too many surprises in the USASAC slate. Going 1-8 is not good, but Scots13 has a good point that they probably were expected to do no better than 3-6, maybe 4-5 if everything broke their way. 2 or 3 extra losses is significant, and it's a bad look, but it's not like  they were favored in 6 games and lost all but one.

Huntingdon did not look right. I was there, and that was not the Huntingdon team I'm used to seeing. That being said, Guilford looked a lot better than I expected. Guilford's QB is big and strong and has an arm. With a little more touch on his throws, especially in the pocket, he will be hard to handle for anyone in the ODAC. Combine that with having to worry about their two good running backs and Guilford is going to be much better than last year.

I'm surprised M'Ville lost at home. Yes it was last second to a good team, but it was a toss up last year when Berry was a year 4 program and M'Ville travelled. To lose to a Year 5 at home means Berry didn't have much drop off, somewhat rare for a Year 5 team, or M'Ville took a step back.

Averett just about took out HSC. While I think Averett is better than they've been, that's not a good look for HSC. Especially in Farmville. Well done for the Tigers for gutting it out, but I'm not holding my breath HSC is back to where they have consistently lived the last 15 years or so. The top of the ODAC still seems out of reach based on what I saw and read of this one.

Ferrum is going to have a chip on their shoulder with their ODAC OOC games. E&H seems to be living up to my prediction of being head cases. A bad loss for a team expected to compete and possible win the ODAC, a good look for Ferrum. Congratulations to them.

As for the others, who cares? Greensboro is expected to be the worst team in the South Region, they look willing to live down to it unfortunately. Guilford has to play Davidson in a few weeks, we'll see how that goes. LaGrange and BSC are both mired in mediocrity at best and who knows what Brevard has, but probably not so much from a few different reports I got about the W&L scrimmage.

NC Wesleyan was going to get pasted. Just don't talk about it. If you want to schedule a game like that, do it against Davidson and get paid for it. "I want to show my kids the best so they can grow" only works if you can actually see the level the other team is bludgeoning you from. NC Wes couldn't and neither can anyone else in the ODAC or USASAC right now. It was a waste of two games for where NC Wes is as a program in my opinion. And, as I indicated above, NC Wes would be far from the only school around that I would say that about.

Methodist? Again, if you aren't a Methodist fan who cares? Take the money and invest it in your program. Stop bringing 200 kids to camp and having just a few seniors. It's ridiculous. Do better recruiting and stop seeing easy tuition checks from gullible h.s. seniors. It's beneath a school that is trying to do what is right for their students.

I met a Methodist head coach for a sport other than football. He told me they were required to bring in X number of freshmen. He hated the mandate.

Averette returned most of their D from last year. They aren't as bad as you may think. A very positive note for HSC they only allowed 228 yards. Offensively they tried to be a little cute. A reverse pass, a hook and lateral, which together netted -5 yards. Cobb was very good. And DeMasi ran for 88 yards. Don't sell these Tigers yet JK.
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Post by: Scots13 on September 03, 2017, 08:43:36 PM
That sounds like the HSC offense I used to see when I was in high school. Marty getting back to his roots  8-)

No doubt Coach Adams is taking Averett in the right direction. Administration is helping too with the new stadium. Heard some rumbling that's on the agenda down here since Ferrum and Averett have upgraded. I think I heard NCWC is planning an on-campus facility.

Many places have mandates on number of incoming freshmen. Terrible situation to be in as a coach.
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Post by: scottiedoug on September 04, 2017, 01:02:47 PM
It is a terrible situation to be in as a school...to have to have 200 incoming athletes to stay viable. Exploitation takes many forms....
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Post by: Ralph Turner on September 04, 2017, 02:09:41 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on September 04, 2017, 01:02:47 PM
It is a terrible situation to be in as a school...to have to have 200 incoming athletes to stay viable. Exploitation takes many forms....
When you get look at Methodist the school is only 61 years old. They have one generation of benefactors, that is, graduates in the 60's and 70's who can begin to make the large donations that really endow the school. I saw in USN&WR that the endowment is only $22M. After one takes out the designated endowments that cannot be used for anything else, a 5% return on the remainder does not even cover the administrative expense of the VP for Institutional Advancement. If you hope to double your endowment every 30 years, then they have a long way to go.

Hampden-Sydney, founded in 1776 has an endowment of $154.6 M.
Washington and Lee, founded in 1749, is in a whole 'nother league at $1.472 Billion.  W&L has 1800 undergrads and stated tuition and fees are $48K, which  gives a nominal revenue of $86.4M. (We do not know what the discount rate at W&L is.) A 5% return on investment of $1.472B is $73.6M.   The university almost takes in more money from its endowment than it does from undergraduate tuition and fees.
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Post by: jknezek on September 04, 2017, 04:03:13 PM
The real average annual cost per student, as per collegescorecard.ed/gov/search, an awesome tool created during the last administration, lists W&L at $24,655. Methodist is about $2K less. The flip side is the average salary for Methodist grads is just under 39K, W&L is $72,900.

I have no problem with Methodist filling their beds and classroom spaces honestly. I have a huge problem with doing it by over recruiting. There is no way Methodist brings that many first years to college by telling them accurately their chances of playing in the program. They aren't successful enough to be like UMU and UMHB and have the kind of pull to get those kids without blowing smoke at them. And if they were getting the students with honest appraisals, they wouldn't have the drop off they have year after year.

By forcing these targets on coaches they force the coaches to be dishonest with the perspective students, it is the only way to explain the results. And that dishonesty does a disservice to the students evaluating schools for their best fit and, especially for a school with a religious affiliation, is immoral and wrong.

It is simply beneath a non-profit college to behave this way, or at the very least it should be. If the college can't make it without behaving like this, then there simply isn't a demand for them to exist and they are existing not as a non-profit should, to help society, but as a for profit willing to cut corners and lie to customers to keep money rolling in.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: albatross on September 04, 2017, 07:28:12 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 04, 2017, 02:09:41 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on September 04, 2017, 01:02:47 PM
It is a terrible situation to be in as a school...to have to have 200 incoming athletes to stay viable. Exploitation takes many forms....
When you get look at Methodist the school is only 61 years old. They have one generation of benefactors, that is, graduates in the 60's and 70's who can begin to make the large donations that really endow the school. I saw in USN&WR that the endowment is only $22M. After one takes out the designated endowments that cannot be used for anything else, a 5% return on the remainder does not even cover the administrative expense of the VP for Institutional Advancement. If you hope to double your endowment every 30 years, then they have a long way to go.

Hampden-Sydney, founded in 1776 has an endowment of $154.6 M.
Washington and Lee, founded in 1749, is in a whole 'nother league at $1.472 Billion.  W&L has 1800 undergrads and stated tuition and fees are $48K, which  gives a nominal revenue of $86.4M. (We do not know what the discount rate at W&L is.) A 5% return on investment of $1.472B is $73.6M.   The university almost takes in more money from its endowment than it does from undergraduate tuition and fees.

W&L has a national network (in several big cities) that is unprecedented for a school of its size. When I was trying to figure out where to play 5 years it ago it came down to them and Hendrix. More about fit...
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Post by: Scots13 on September 09, 2017, 03:51:01 PM
Hanover is much improved, but MC did what they could to help them. 24-20 MC
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Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2017, 12:04:49 AM
GCQ handled Methodist easily today in Fayetteville, 56-17.  It could have been worse, but I wish the Monarchs well the rest of the season.  If I was their coach, I'd spin it perhaps as they've played two of their toughest opponents early and the rest of the season will go better.
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Post by: Hawks88 on September 10, 2017, 02:18:53 AM
Ugly win for the Hawks tonight in Birmingham. If nothing else it was sure entertaining. As poorly as we played in the first half, they pretty much outdid us in the second half with three turnovers and numerous penalties.
Our starting QB Taylor went out in the 1st with a shoulder injury but it is his non-throwing shoulder and they are saying he could be back in a couple of weeks. We'll see. Blaise Schillase came in and battled through first game jitter type mistakes but the whole team pulled together and battled through and made enough big plays to pull it out. Couldn't be prouder of these guys for battling back after being down 17-0 in the first quarter and 31-14 in the 2nd.
Back at home to start conference play against NC Wesleyan next week.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: hasanova on September 10, 2017, 09:16:14 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 10, 2017, 02:18:53 AM
Ugly win for the Hawks tonight in Birmingham. If nothing else it was sure entertaining. As poorly as we played in the first half, they pretty much outdid us in the second half with three turnovers and numerous penalties.
Our starting QB Taylor went out in the 1st with a shoulder injury but it is his non-throwing shoulder and they are saying he could be back in a couple of weeks. We'll see. Blaise Schillase came in and battled through first game jitter type mistakes but the whole team pulled together and battled through and made enough big plays to pull it out. Couldn't be prouder of these guys for battling back after being down 17-0 in the first quarter and 31-14 in the 2nd.
Back at home to start conference play against NC Wesleyan next week.

Go Hawks!
Congratulations on the win, Hawks88.   Hoping for a quick recovery by Taylor.  I saw the score ... looks like a wild game at BSC.  NC Wesleyan may be reeling after two lop-sided games ... next week should be interesting.  If memory serves me correctly, the Bishops gave HC their lone regular season loss in 2016.
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Post by: hasanova on September 16, 2017, 03:22:01 PM
Visiting Brevard is routing Greensboro 63-0 early in the 4th ... looks like a long season for the Pride.
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Post by: scottiedoug on September 16, 2017, 05:10:20 PM
Scots13...Scots found some offense but apparently not the other part...What did you see?
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Post by: Scots13 on September 16, 2017, 05:21:03 PM
I think Diggs proved himself to be a leader and we have 2 good Fr. QBs in Adamson and Castillo,the OL played better but still too many penalties (same goes for the team as a whole), special teams is a liability-even with the 94 yard KOR. Defense played OK, as they were put in bad spots throughout the day.

I think we renewed the season 2017 today after the tough loss the Berry and close game to Hanover. If our offense plays like this the rest of the year we'll set kicking records.
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Post by: Hawks88 on September 16, 2017, 08:48:51 PM
Another terrible first half for Huntingdon trailing 21-10 at the half then 28-10 after giving up a long pass early in the third. A QB change at the half to Preston Samoden seemed to spark the offense with a quick score on a big play for HC followed by a score on the first play after a turnover deep in NCW territory got us back in it and the defense held them scoreless the rest of the way. HC took a safety near the end to win 41-30. If we can put together 4 quarters like we played the second halves the last two weeks then we may be okay.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: hasanova on September 17, 2017, 04:58:46 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 16, 2017, 08:48:51 PM
Another terrible first half for Huntingdon trailing 21-10 at the half then 28-10 after giving up a long pass early in the third. A QB change at the half to Preston Samoden seemed to spark the offense with a quick score on a big play for HC followed by a score on the first play after a turnover deep in NCW territory got us back in it and the defense held them scoreless the rest of the way. HC took a safety near the end to win 41-30. If we can put together 4 quarters like we played the second halves the last two weeks then we may be okay.

Go Hawks!
Watching Huntingdon with you, Hawks88.  Nice comeback, but I'm sure you'd love a game where you weren't biting your fingernails with nervousness in the 2nd half.
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Post by: Scots13 on September 18, 2017, 03:27:15 PM
After 3 weeks of play, all but Maryville have played a conference game.

Huntingdon, 2-1 (1-0). Lost to Guilford, which I think surprised a lot of people, beat BSC with a second half come back, and beat NCWC after being down 28-10.  QB play has been subject to injuries. I still have faith in Coach Turk that they'll straight out first halves.

Maryville, 2-1 (0-0). Lost to Berry by 6 which still pi$$es me off. Had to come back in the second half against Hanover after trying to give the game away. Beat E&H in a high scoring affair in which MC's special teams tried to give it away again. If we get the stupid special teams mistakes and penalties out of the way, we have a shot. Solid play from first year starter Diggs and 2 good freshmen QBs in Adamson (hurt against Berry) and Castillo (kept MC in the game at E&H after Diggs went out for several series).

Ferrum, 2-1 (0-1). Beat E&H, Apprentice. Lost to Averett. I think their offense is more than capable, but their defensive is pretty dang good.

Averett, 1-2 (1-0). Lost to HSC and RMC. Luckily beat Ferrum. Seem to be going to the ground most of the time. Should be 0-3. I expected more from them to start the year.

Brevard, 1-2 (1-0). Lost to Davidson and E&H. Plastered Greensboro.  Bunch of young guys and a new staff. Still need more games to see what they're all about.

LaGrange, 1-2 (1-0). Lost to Berry and BSC. Beat Methodist. Conner Blair & Co. are still around so they can still sling it.

NCWC, 0-3 (0-1). Lost to Mount Union, Shenandoah, got hawked by Huntingdon (pun intended). Major let down so far. Defense is not in the same zip code against SU and HC. Hoping they don't figure it out this week. Last time MC played in Rocky Mount, NCWC beat the tar out of us.

Methodist, 0-3 (0-1). Lost to Campbell, Guilford, and LaGrange. Big let down too--a couple years ago it seemed like MU would flip the switch and be a contender for the USAC, but they haven't been able to keep a coach.

Greensboro, 1-2 (0-1). Lost to Apprentice and Brevard. Beat Gallaudet. How bad is Gallaudet? Jeez.
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Huntingdon @ Ferrum and Methodist @ Averett this weekend will tell us if Ferrum really is a contender and if Huntingdon still has any youthful magic left; we'll find out if Averett is better or if they just got lucky against Ferrum. I think they got lucky.

Still not completely sold on my boys. They've stretched the field vertically over the last 6 quarters (something they didn't do the first 6) and have opened the run game a little bit. I think the offense is finally getting into a rhythm, but we'll need better play in the kicking game or we'll get beat.
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Post by: Subway Alum on September 19, 2017, 04:02:32 PM
It's good to finally be able to take part here as a supporter of a USA South conference school.  Brevard's years in Division II are best remembered dimly if at all.

We weren't sure just what the new Brevard coach (Bill Khayat) and his staff had to work with with the classification change and what type of offense they would choose to install to replace the old Brevard triple option.  The results against Davidson (ranked dead last in the Sagarin ratings of all FBS and FCS schools) and Emory & Henry weren't all that heartening, but the emphasis on passing was something BC fans hadn't seen since 2008, when the former coach brought in his son as a transfer and BC threw the ball all over the place for a season.  The new coaches attributed the Davidson and E&H losses to the defense having to spend too much time on the field--and that due to an inexperienced offensive line that resulted in far too many three-and-outs.  But Saturday against Greensboro (I saw most of the game on the Greensboro video feed) Brevard showed that a lot of excellent coaching had taken place in the last week and the coaching was starting to take hold.  Maybe Greensboro just isn't that good, or had a particularly bad day, but Brevard handled them the way many South Atlantic Conference teams used to handle Brevard.  It was pleasant to be on the other end for a change.

As the Tornados move on to LaGrange this week and into the rest of the USAC schedule beyond that, we'll see.  But BC has some offensive weapons, with a Division I-size quarterback who has a good arm and skilled veterans of the past couple seasons moved from alternating at option QB to pass receiving positions.  The offensive line looked respectable against Greensboro and is gaining valuable experience with each game.  The defense is solid but can't play 40 minutes, as the coaches recognize. . . .  LaGrange will be an interesting game from several perspectives, and I look forward to what veteran USAC fans think of Brevard as the season progresses.



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Post by: jknezek on September 19, 2017, 04:18:36 PM
Quote from: Subway Alum on September 19, 2017, 04:02:32 PM
It's good to finally be able to take part here as a supporter of a USA South conference school.  Brevard's years in Division II are best remembered dimly if at all.

We weren't sure just what the new Brevard coach (Bill Khayat) and his staff had to work with with the classification change and what type of offense they would choose to install to replace the old Brevard triple option.  The results against Davidson (ranked dead last in the Sagarin ratings of all FBS and FCS schools) and Emory & Henry weren't all that heartening, but the emphasis on passing was something BC fans hadn't seen since 2008, when the former coach brought in his son as a transfer and BC threw the ball all over the place for a season.  The new coaches attributed the Davidson and E&H losses to the defense having to spend too much time on the field--and that due to an inexperienced offensive line that resulted in far too many three-and-outs.  But Saturday against Greensboro (I saw most of the game on the Greensboro video feed) Brevard showed that a lot of excellent coaching had taken place in the last week and the coaching was starting to take hold.  Maybe Greensboro just isn't that good, or had a particularly bad day, but Brevard handled them the way many South Atlantic Conference teams used to handle Brevard.  It was pleasant to be on the other end for a change.

As the Tornados move on to LaGrange this week and into the rest of the USAC schedule beyond that, we'll see.  But BC has some offensive weapons, with a Division I-size quarterback who has a good arm and skilled veterans of the past couple seasons moved from alternating at option QB to pass receiving positions.  The offensive line looked respectable against Greensboro and is gaining valuable experience with each game.  The defense is solid but can't play 40 minutes, as the coaches recognize. . . .  LaGrange will be an interesting game from several perspectives, and I look forward to what veteran USAC fans think of Brevard as the season progresses.

Greensboro was expected to be the worst team in the D3 South Region. Any result other than tearing them off the field probably isn't a good one.

The important thing is to say welcome to DIII and the DIII boards. Teams rise and fall all the time. Brevard will surely get their chance at some point, but this year, based on the results I've seen and some feedback I got from the pre-season W&L scrimmage, is a year for patience for Brevard fans.
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Post by: hasanova on September 19, 2017, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: Subway Alum on September 19, 2017, 04:02:32 PM
It's good to finally be able to take part here as a supporter of a USA South conference school.  Brevard's years in Division II are best remembered dimly if at all.

We weren't sure just what the new Brevard coach (Bill Khayat) and his staff had to work with with the classification change and what type of offense they would choose to install to replace the old Brevard triple option.  The results against Davidson (ranked dead last in the Sagarin ratings of all FBS and FCS schools) and Emory & Henry weren't all that heartening, but the emphasis on passing was something BC fans hadn't seen since 2008, when the former coach brought in his son as a transfer and BC threw the ball all over the place for a season.  The new coaches attributed the Davidson and E&H losses to the defense having to spend too much time on the field--and that due to an inexperienced offensive line that resulted in far too many three-and-outs.  But Saturday against Greensboro (I saw most of the game on the Greensboro video feed) Brevard showed that a lot of excellent coaching had taken place in the last week and the coaching was starting to take hold.  Maybe Greensboro just isn't that good, or had a particularly bad day, but Brevard handled them the way many South Atlantic Conference teams used to handle Brevard.  It was pleasant to be on the other end for a change.

As the Tornados move on to LaGrange this week and into the rest of the USAC schedule beyond that, we'll see.  But BC has some offensive weapons, with a Division I-size quarterback who has a good arm and skilled veterans of the past couple seasons moved from alternating at option QB to pass receiving positions.  The offensive line looked respectable against Greensboro and is gaining valuable experience with each game.  The defense is solid but can't play 40 minutes, as the coaches recognize. . . .  LaGrange will be an interesting game from several perspectives, and I look forward to what veteran USAC fans think of Brevard as the season progresses.
Welcome to DIII, Subway Alum.  I know a little about sports at Brevard (my nephew played basketball there and graduated in 2009) ... Brevard just never had the numbers and budget to make DII work, especially in the SAC.

As jknezek said, don't read too much into a rout of Greensboro ... the Pride will suffer several this season, I think.  It will take several seasons for Brevard to be a viable player in the USASAC, but the coaches and players will learn a lot this season.  Good luck!
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Post by: Ralph Turner on September 20, 2017, 03:39:40 PM
Welcome Subway alum.
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Post by: scottiedoug on September 21, 2017, 09:47:33 AM
There is no doubt a story here.  Meanwhile, who is the Next Man Up?

http://www.thedailytimes.com/sports/mc-s-defensive-line-coach-no-longer-with-the-program/article_40dadf79-556a-5cc4-8675-a24a37a007a5.html
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Post by: Scots13 on September 21, 2017, 10:35:16 AM
There probably is a story here, simply because he left right before the third game of the year. However, he did say it was due to personal reasons which opens up a lot of possibilities. His wife is the head volleyball coach at Tennessee Wesleyan and they have a small daughter...might be the travel and time commitments of being college coaches with a small child is getting the better of them (which is of no fault of anyone. C'est la vie.)
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Post by: scottiedoug on September 22, 2017, 09:52:51 AM
Or maybe the fact that no one in the family makes a living wage.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 22, 2017, 09:56:25 PM
Per a photo tweet, Harris seems to have joined his wife's staff at TWC.
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Post by: Hawks88 on September 23, 2017, 02:25:37 PM
Much better first half for the Hawks today leading at Ferrum 24-14 at the half. Both Ferrum scores courtesy of big plays but other than that our defense is doing a good job. We had what I thought was a terrible call for targeting on Austin Washington. HC's feed has been buffering a lot so I've mostly been on Ferrum's feed which has replays. The play was a late hit but I didn't see any targeting. The only helmet contact was with his own team mate.
Chip Taylor back in at QB today with the shoulder brace. He is taking some hits but keeps on going. Tough kid there.
Hopefully the defense can keep up the solid play in the second half.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: Hawks88 on September 23, 2017, 02:41:19 PM
They just announced the targeting call was reversed and Washington is back in the game for the second half.
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Post by: Scots13 on September 23, 2017, 03:25:24 PM
I'm about to puke. Pick 6 NCWC with 3:01 in the 4th. 35-23 NCWC
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Post by: Hawks88 on September 23, 2017, 04:03:08 PM
Hawks hold on to win 31-28. Holding our breath at the end with it looking like Ferrum got the onside kick but they touched the ball before it went ten yards so we were able to run out the clock. Would have liked to see more scoring from our offense in that second half but the one TD ended up being enough.
@ Brevard next week.
Go Hawks!
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Post by: BerryViking92 on September 25, 2017, 08:34:36 AM
What happened in the Maryville game???
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Post by: hasanova on September 25, 2017, 10:41:42 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 23, 2017, 04:03:08 PM
Hawks hold on to win 31-28. Holding our breath at the end with it looking like Ferrum got the onside kick but they touched the ball before it went ten yards so we were able to run out the clock. Would have liked to see more scoring from our offense in that second half but the one TD ended up being enough.
@ Brevard next week.
Go Hawks!
Tough win, Hawks88!  Congratulations.
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Post by: Scots13 on September 25, 2017, 03:11:17 PM
No idea what happened, 92. Didn't get many stops on D and settled for way too many FGs. For a season so promising, this is turning into a .500 season PDQ.
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Post by: Hawks88 on September 30, 2017, 10:05:40 PM
Solid win for the Hawks today at Brevard. Defense did a good job with not giving the big plays and kept Brevard shut down for the better part of the day.
Should be a tough one for homecoming next week against Averett. Hopefully we can keep showing improvement and are able to get this one.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: Scots13 on October 02, 2017, 12:57:44 PM
jk, you're spot on in regards to Greensboro being the worst team in the South Region.  They've had some lackluster performances over the years, but this year takes the cake. After looking at the roster and seeing who had the ball in their hands most of the game, hats off to the freshmen and sophomores that have taken the beatings for ol' GC.  Didn't seem like they quit or threw in the towel--got to feel bad for the kids in that situation. Greensboro needs to look at the Guilford model to right the ship.

I'd heard rumblings after the loss to NCWC and the rumors were true. MC had a ton of kids serving 1st half suspensions. Not sure what the issue was after the NCWC game, but kudos to Coach Hayes for laying down the law.  MC has a relatively young team, but I hope the team responds and gets going back on track.  MC has a week off then it's off to Montgomery. Hoping we can break the streak.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 04, 2017, 10:38:02 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 02, 2017, 12:57:44 PM
jk, you're spot on in regards to Greensboro being the worst team in the South Region.  They've had some lackluster performances over the years, but this year takes the cake. After looking at the roster and seeing who had the ball in their hands most of the game, hats off to the freshmen and sophomores that have taken the beatings for ol' GC.  Didn't seem like they quit or threw in the towel--got to feel bad for the kids in that situation. Greensboro needs to look at the Guilford model to right the ship.

I'd heard rumblings after the loss to NCWC and the rumors were true. MC had a ton of kids serving 1st half suspensions. Not sure what the issue was after the NCWC game, but kudos to Coach Hayes for laying down the law.  MC has a relatively young team, but I hope the team responds and gets going back on track.  MC has a week off then it's off to Montgomery. Hoping we can break the streak.
Looking at scores this year, I understand why Greensboro opted out of the Soup Bowl with Guilford after a 20 year run  ...  not sure when, or if, it will return.  After a cumulative 198-13 score in 2014-2016, the game was doing very little to prepare the Quakers for ODAC play or a potential NCAA bid in 2015.  I sincerely hope Greensboro can find ways to strengthen their program.
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Post by: jknezek on October 04, 2017, 10:50:33 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 02, 2017, 12:57:44 PM
jk, you're spot on in regards to Greensboro being the worst team in the South Region.  They've had some lackluster performances over the years, but this year takes the cake. After looking at the roster and seeing who had the ball in their hands most of the game, hats off to the freshmen and sophomores that have taken the beatings for ol' GC.  Didn't seem like they quit or threw in the towel--got to feel bad for the kids in that situation. Greensboro needs to look at the Guilford model to right the ship.

I'd heard rumblings after the loss to NCWC and the rumors were true. MC had a ton of kids serving 1st half suspensions. Not sure what the issue was after the NCWC game, but kudos to Coach Hayes for laying down the law.  MC has a relatively young team, but I hope the team responds and gets going back on track.  MC has a week off then it's off to Montgomery. Hoping we can break the streak.

To be fair, that wasn't actually me, though I probably had the same opinion. The Kickoff guys ranked Greensboro last in the South Region and deserve the recognition.
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Post by: Hawks88 on October 07, 2017, 08:24:11 PM
Huntingdon's best defensive game so far this season I think. Defense was outstanding outside of Bowman breaking the 79 yarder in the 4th quarter. Chip Taylor's 69 TD yd run to answer right after that to ice the game was awesome. Our offense was the side to take advantage of the big plays as our 3 TD's were for 91, 74, and 69 yds.

Big one at home next week against Maryville to try to stay atop the conference.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: gridironsouthernboy on October 09, 2017, 02:42:05 AM
Greensboro is building from the ground up with their new coach.  Had over 50 Freshman on this years roster. We visited due to its location and really liked the school and Head coach. Believe me , he made a great pitch to the kids and was very aggressive in recruiting. He didnt sugar coat it either. Told us they had plans for an on campus stadium.  If they give him time and he can upgrade his staff,  Greensboro has a lot to offer a kid.
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Post by: hasanova on October 09, 2017, 03:45:39 PM
Quote from: gridironsouthernboy on October 09, 2017, 02:42:05 AM
Greensboro is building from the ground up with their new coach.  Had over 50 Freshman on this years roster. We visited due to its location and really liked the school and Head coach. Believe me , he made a great pitch to the kids and was very aggressive in recruiting. He didnt sugar coat it either. Told us they had plans for an on campus stadium.  If they give him time and he can upgrade his staff,  Greensboro has a lot to offer a kid.
To be honest, they've been pitching the on campus stadium idea for a while now.  Hope they get it ... tough to play at Grimsley with so many unsold seats.  It's good for everyone in the USASAC and, for that matter, in the ODAC, if Greensboro builds their program up.
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Post by: Hawks88 on October 14, 2017, 07:58:01 PM
Excellent win for the Hawks today. Very proud of the way this team has pulled together as the season has progressed. With the young guys buying in and learning what's expected this is becoming a solid team and isn't the same team as week one against Guilford.
Open date next week is a chance to rest up and get some guys healthy before a trip to Greensboro the week after.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: DGPugh on October 14, 2017, 10:28:17 PM
Hawes Hope yall are well
Just watching em on the computer this year. We might try and ride over and see a game toward the last game this year

the first game was bothersome... but i believe you are right on the numbers
keep safe
keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Subway Alum on October 16, 2017, 06:04:23 PM
After a scare against Virginia-Lynchburg last week at home--homecoming, to boot--Brevard took care of Methodist nicely on Saturday.  The coaches did some good work with the offense during the week; the freshman offensive line seems to be coming together.  Quarterback O'Shea Carter was back on his game after some trouble against Va.-Lynchburg that might (no inside information here) have been due to a few injuries not collectively enough to keep him out.  We get to see yet another new opponent, Ferrum, at home this week and will see what kind of momentum a two-game winning streak can produce.  It's been a long time since Brevard has won two football games in a row! . . . I'm enjoying the availability of steaming video provided by most of the USA South schools, especially since Brevard's local radio station has dropped covering away games as it did when the Tornados were Division II. . . . Seemingly, Brevard can only get better as this year's freshman get more experience, although it's upperclassmen catching most of the passes and spearheading the defense.  . . . This program probably should have been Division III from the restart of football in 2006, but geography apparently got in the way and Presbyterian's spot in the SAC was too attractive to pass up.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Subway Alum on October 16, 2017, 06:10:47 PM
DG Pugh:  If you're connected with the Compughter Rankings website, it's fantastic! 

Hawes Hope yall are well
Just watching em on the computer this year. We might try and ride over and see a game toward the last game this year

the first game was bothersome... but i believe you are right on the numbers
keep safe
keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 29, 2017, 09:44:48 AM
Hawks take care of business in Greensboro. I was nervous as sometimes in the past we haven't been too sharp coming off the bye week but that wasn't the case here. The offense was solid for the most part and the defense was terrific. It was late in the second before Greensboro got their initial first down and 75 of their total yards of offense were on their TD drive in the third after we started subbing liberally.
Good to see a lot of young guys get in. Freshman QB Lambert got his first action and threw a nice TD to fellow freshman Hawkins in the third. Future looking good for the Hawks.
Senior day next week at home against Methodist.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 29, 2017, 10:39:51 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 29, 2017, 09:44:48 AM
Hawks take care of business in Greensboro. I was nervous as sometimes in the past we haven't been too sharp coming off the bye week but that wasn't the case here. The offense was solid for the most part and the defense was terrific. It was late in the second before Greensboro got their initial first down and 75 of their total yards of offense were on their TD drive in the third after we started subbing liberally.
Good to see a lot of young guys get in. Freshman QB Lambert got his first action and threw a nice TD to fellow freshman Hawkins in the third. Future looking good for the Hawks.
Senior day next week at home against Methodist.

Go Hawks!
Congratulations, Hawks88.  I'd say you are well on your way to the USASAC title.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 29, 2017, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 29, 2017, 10:39:51 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 29, 2017, 09:44:48 AM
Hawks take care of business in Greensboro. I was nervous as sometimes in the past we haven't been too sharp coming off the bye week but that wasn't the case here. The offense was solid for the most part and the defense was terrific. It was late in the second before Greensboro got their initial first down and 75 of their total yards of offense were on their TD drive in the third after we started subbing liberally.
Good to see a lot of young guys get in. Freshman QB Lambert got his first action and threw a nice TD to fellow freshman Hawkins in the third. Future looking good for the Hawks.
Senior day next week at home against Methodist.

Go Hawks!
Congratulations, Hawks88.  I'd say you are well on your way to the USASAC title.
Thanks, Hasa. Yesterday did clinch a share of the title but we don't want to share it. We did have a few mistakes that were enough to keep us from being satisfied with ourselves. Several turnovers and a couple of penalties that could have been avoided. I'm wondering how Methodist gave Ferrum so much trouble yesterday but if our defense keeps doing what they have been we should be okay.
Hopefully your guys can win out. I'm not sure if you still have a scenario where you get into a tie where you would get the AQ?  I don't think there is any way we can get the home game away from Berry but I'll take the relatively short drive to Rome over last year's trip to Wheaton anytime. ;)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 30, 2017, 09:36:17 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 29, 2017, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 29, 2017, 10:39:51 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 29, 2017, 09:44:48 AM
Hawks take care of business in Greensboro. I was nervous as sometimes in the past we haven't been too sharp coming off the bye week but that wasn't the case here. The offense was solid for the most part and the defense was terrific. It was late in the second before Greensboro got their initial first down and 75 of their total yards of offense were on their TD drive in the third after we started subbing liberally.
Good to see a lot of young guys get in. Freshman QB Lambert got his first action and threw a nice TD to fellow freshman Hawkins in the third. Future looking good for the Hawks.
Senior day next week at home against Methodist.

Go Hawks!
Congratulations, Hawks88.  I'd say you are well on your way to the USASAC title.
Thanks, Hasa. Yesterday did clinch a share of the title but we don't want to share it. We did have a few mistakes that were enough to keep us from being satisfied with ourselves. Several turnovers and a couple of penalties that could have been avoided. I'm wondering how Methodist gave Ferrum so much trouble yesterday but if our defense keeps doing what they have been we should be okay.
Hopefully your guys can win out. I'm not sure if you still have a scenario where you get into a tie where you would get the AQ?  I don't think there is any way we can get the home game away from Berry but I'll take the relatively short drive to Rome over last year's trip to Wheaton anytime. ;)
If I understand it correctly, HC needs at least a split with Methodist and LaGrange to garner the USAC title outright.  I think the Hawks will accomplish that goal.  Huntingdon's record makes Guilford's win in Montgomery look even better since HC hasn't faltered since that Sept. 2 game.  Does look as though you're traveling to Rome, GA.

Speaking of the Quakers, there is a scenario where we can still finish in a 4-2 tie, i.e. where A beat B, B beat C and C beat A.  Lots of discussion about the final tie-breaker since head to head would be off the table.   Five ODAC teams (W&L, SU, HSC, RMC and GC) at 3-1 or 2-2, but W&L and SU meet week 11 as do HSC and RMC.  Should be a little clearer after Nov. 4.  Obviously, the Quakers need to beat both RMC and E&H at home in Greensboro and hope for some help.             
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 01, 2017, 03:15:56 PM
Regional rankings are out:
http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2017/first-regional-ranking
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 04, 2017, 06:58:47 PM
Enjoyed the game today (between the streaming on the computer and playing in the shop).
I just hope we can whip LaGrange and go into the  playoffs on a high note.
Keep the faith and Go Hawks, y'all  :D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 04, 2017, 09:08:27 PM
Hawks really put it together in all phases today getting 660 yds of offense and holding Methodist to 242. Hope we can stay focused and take care of business at LaGrange next week and head into the post season on a good note.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 06, 2017, 04:36:12 PM
I've been quiet recently--lots of things going on at the office and at the house. C'est la vie.

Couple things:
It's beyond embarrassing to take a loss to Averett when they don't even score a touchdown. Absolutely sickening.  I hope they realize that is simply unacceptable. What's also unacceptable is the multiple 15 yard penalties we seem to get EARN on any given Saturday.  I can take losses. I can take getting flat out beat. But the product we've put on the field this year is disgraceful. No leadership. No drive. No want-to.  We have one more Saturday--we need to get our head's out of yall-know-where to make sure 2017 isn't a .500 season.

We played a 9-0/nationally ranked Berry down to the wire and lost by 2 yards. Lost to Averett on 4 FGs. Whipped yet again in Rocky Mount. I can't figure it out.

Congrats to the Hawks for winning another USA South title (but I won't congratulate you guys on extending the streak against us!)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryViking92 on November 07, 2017, 07:52:06 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 06, 2017, 04:36:12 PM
I've been quiet recently--lots of things going on at the office and at the house. C'est la vie.

Couple things:
It's beyond embarrassing to take a loss to Averett when they don't even score a touchdown. Absolutely sickening.  I hope they realize that is simply unacceptable. What's also unacceptable is the multiple 15 yard penalties we seem to get EARN on any given Saturday.  I can take losses. I can take getting flat out beat. But the product we've put on the field this year is disgraceful. No leadership. No drive. No want-to.  We have one more Saturday--we need to get our head's out of yall-know-where to make sure 2017 isn't a .500 season.

We played a 9-0/nationally ranked Berry down to the wire and lost by 2 yards. Lost to Averett on 4 FGs. Whipped yet again in Rocky Mount. I can't figure it out.

Congrats to the Hawks for winning another USA South title (but I won't congratulate you guys on extending the streak against us!)

I thought y'all looked really good in week one and told someone Maryville would run it's conference schedule.  There is talent there for sure but something went wrong.  Maybe just bad team chemistry or lack of leadership?  Maryville has a strong athletic program ... it will get turned around soon.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 07, 2017, 12:35:35 PM
I'll say lack of leadership. We returned all 11 of defense--I thought we'd be able to nurse along a QB and the offense for a couple weeks on the back of our defense, but that's not been the case. I would take 14-10 wins all year long. I think we all would.
Much of the 2 deep is made up of Juniors and Sophomores, so hopefully next year we can get back on track. Several talented freshmen.

To use words from Butch Jones, we need some leadership reps in the off-season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2017, 03:09:08 PM
Latest regional rankings are out:
http://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2017/second-regional-ranking
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 11, 2017, 05:55:18 PM
Hawks take down Lagrange 27-17 but that score is much closer than it really was. It was 27-3 with <5 minutes left when LC drove down and scored on our backups then got the onside kick and scored on a long pass the first play after. Still don't know why they didn't go for two after those TD's since it could have made it a one score game if they had made them? Weird.
We may have lost QB Chip Taylor for the playoffs with an injury the first possession of the game. Preston Samoden did a solid job in his place so we could still be in good shape.

Going on the assumption that we are headed to Berry next week and anxiously waiting until 4:30 tomorrow to find out for sure.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 11, 2017, 06:14:59 PM
Haks
looks like we missed all the action. We drove over to AU to see some friends, and got back just in time to see the end of the game.
Hate that about the QB
I hope we can do well in Rome. Keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 11, 2017, 06:17:59 PM
Hawks
Hawks
i need to proof...sorry
and....
I pray you did not cast any 'dispersions' at the LaGrange folk :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 11, 2017, 06:25:38 PM
Didn't 'besmirch' any LC folks today. Can't say the same of the officials. They kinda didn't keep good control of the game in the second half and it was getting a little chippy for a while there.

And can't believe what AU is doing to UGA right now. War Eagle!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 12, 2017, 12:40:08 AM
War Eagle.

I was at DFW airport and sat at the bar in TGIFriday's for a quick bite.  Sure 'nuff the guy next to me was an Auburn alum.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on November 13, 2017, 04:52:44 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 11, 2017, 05:55:18 PM
Hawks take down Lagrange 27-17 but that score is much closer than it really was. It was 27-3 with <5 minutes left when LC drove down and scored on our backups then got the onside kick and scored on a long pass the first play after. Still don't know why they didn't go for two after those TD's since it could have made it a one score game if they had made them? Weird.
We may have lost QB Chip Taylor for the playoffs with an injury the first possession of the game. Preston Samoden did a solid job in his place so we could still be in good shape.

Going on the assumption that we are headed to Berry next week and anxiously waiting until 4:30 tomorrow to find out for sure.

Go Hawks!

Hate to hear the news on Taylor, what was the nature of his injury?  Sounds serious if you think he shouldn't be available Saturday.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 13, 2017, 08:18:38 PM
Quote from: BerryCollegeFan on November 13, 2017, 04:52:44 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 11, 2017, 05:55:18 PM
Hawks take down Lagrange 27-17 but that score is much closer than it really was. It was 27-3 with <5 minutes left when LC drove down and scored on our backups then got the onside kick and scored on a long pass the first play after. Still don't know why they didn't go for two after those TD's since it could have made it a one score game if they had made them? Weird.
We may have lost QB Chip Taylor for the playoffs with an injury the first possession of the game. Preston Samoden did a solid job in his place so we could still be in good shape.

Going on the assumption that we are headed to Berry next week and anxiously waiting until 4:30 tomorrow to find out for sure.

Go Hawks!

Hate to hear the news on Taylor, what was the nature of his injury?  Sounds serious if you think he shouldn't be available Saturday.
I had originally included the injury Saturday but decided to remove it. I didn't want it to be general knowledge just in case but I'm sure some people saw it before I took it out. During/after the game on Saturday I would never think he would be available this week but he did an interview with a local TV station Sunday at the selection show viewing and said that he would be ready Saturday. I've posted several times during the season the toughness he has displayed so I wouldn't put it past him. We'll just have to wait and see, I guess.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 13, 2017, 08:45:51 PM
Hawks88, congratulations ... 9 wins in a row and the USASAC championship.  Good luck against Berry ... hope everyone is healthy and ready to go!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 13, 2017, 10:40:36 PM
Thanks, Hasa. We're hoping everyone can healthy enough to be ready to go on Saturday.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 13, 2017, 10:47:29 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 13, 2017, 10:40:36 PM
Thanks, Hasa. We're hoping everyone can healthy enough to be ready to go on Saturday.
Me, too.  Hoping you make the trip to Guilford next September also. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on November 14, 2017, 09:17:43 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 13, 2017, 08:18:38 PM
Quote from: BerryCollegeFan on November 13, 2017, 04:52:44 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 11, 2017, 05:55:18 PM
Hawks take down Lagrange 27-17 but that score is much closer than it really was. It was 27-3 with <5 minutes left when LC drove down and scored on our backups then got the onside kick and scored on a long pass the first play after. Still don't know why they didn't go for two after those TD's since it could have made it a one score game if they had made them? Weird.
We may have lost QB Chip Taylor for the playoffs with an injury the first possession of the game. Preston Samoden did a solid job in his place so we could still be in good shape.

Going on the assumption that we are headed to Berry next week and anxiously waiting until 4:30 tomorrow to find out for sure.

Go Hawks!

Hate to hear the news on Taylor, what was the nature of his injury?  Sounds serious if you think he shouldn't be available Saturday.
I had originally included the injury Saturday but decided to remove it. I didn't want it to be general knowledge just in case but I'm sure some people saw it before I took it out. During/after the game on Saturday I would never think he would be available this week but he did an interview with a local TV station Sunday at the selection show viewing and said that he would be ready Saturday. I've posted several times during the season the toughness he has displayed so I wouldn't put it past him. We'll just have to wait and see, I guess.
Glad to hear he's got a good chance to bounce back for Saturday.  Competitors never want to be on the sidelines.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 14, 2017, 01:27:57 PM
Quote from: hasanova on November 13, 2017, 10:47:29 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 13, 2017, 10:40:36 PM
Thanks, Hasa. We're hoping everyone can healthy enough to be ready to go on Saturday.
Me, too.  Hoping you make the trip to Guilford next September also.
A long time between now and then but right now that is one we want to make next year.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 18, 2017, 07:44:40 PM
Congrats to Berry on the win today. We'll be pulling you guys the rest of the way.
Disappointing ending for a team that came so far this season. Giving up the kick-off return in the second and the long pass play in the third was the difference. We just couldn't quite make the plays to get the comeback at the end. I do feel like that just under 3 minutes left in the game was a hell of a time to call the first/only offensive holding call of the day. I'll have to re-watch and see if it was so obvious to make a call after letting them play the whole game.

Go Hawks! On to the weight room to get ready for the next go around.

Edit: Just found the play. Yep, BS.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryViking92 on November 20, 2017, 08:17:14 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 18, 2017, 07:44:40 PM
Congrats to Berry on the win today. We'll be pulling you guys the rest of the way.
Disappointing ending for a team that came so far this season. Giving up the kick-off return in the second and the long pass play in the third was the difference. We just couldn't quite make the plays to get the comeback at the end. I do feel like that just under 3 minutes left in the game was a hell of a time to call the first/only offensive holding call of the day. I'll have to re-watch and see if it was so obvious to make a call after letting them play the whole game.

Go Hawks! On to the weight room to get ready for the next go around.

Edit: Just found the play. Yep, BS.

The officiating was ... odd...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 20, 2017, 09:40:13 AM
Quote from: BerryViking92 on November 20, 2017, 08:17:14 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 18, 2017, 07:44:40 PM
Congrats to Berry on the win today. We'll be pulling you guys the rest of the way.
Disappointing ending for a team that came so far this season. Giving up the kick-off return in the second and the long pass play in the third was the difference. We just couldn't quite make the plays to get the comeback at the end. I do feel like that just under 3 minutes left in the game was a hell of a time to call the first/only offensive holding call of the day. I'll have to re-watch and see if it was so obvious to make a call after letting them play the whole game.

Go Hawks! On to the weight room to get ready for the next go around.

Edit: Just found the play. Yep, BS.

The officiating was ... odd...
I actually thought it was a pretty well officiated game. As I said, they did let the kids play and stayed out of the way for the most part. Just don't change the rules at the end, you know? I don't know if we would have even scored there but it sure would have been a lot more fun to see how things would have played out with 2nd and one from the six instead of 1st and 20 from the 25.
Hope your guys can go up there and give those guys a game, maybe even shock some people. You've got the talent to do it. You just have to do it. Good luck.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryViking92 on November 20, 2017, 10:24:03 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 20, 2017, 09:40:13 AM
Quote from: BerryViking92 on November 20, 2017, 08:17:14 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 18, 2017, 07:44:40 PM
Congrats to Berry on the win today. We'll be pulling you guys the rest of the way.
Disappointing ending for a team that came so far this season. Giving up the kick-off return in the second and the long pass play in the third was the difference. We just couldn't quite make the plays to get the comeback at the end. I do feel like that just under 3 minutes left in the game was a hell of a time to call the first/only offensive holding call of the day. I'll have to re-watch and see if it was so obvious to make a call after letting them play the whole game.

Go Hawks! On to the weight room to get ready for the next go around.

Edit: Just found the play. Yep, BS.

The officiating was ... odd...
I actually thought it was a pretty well officiated game. As I said, they did let the kids play and stayed out of the way for the most part. Just don't change the rules at the end, you know? I don't know if we would have even scored there but it sure would have been a lot more fun to see how things would have played out with 2nd and one from the six instead of 1st and 20 from the 25.
Hope your guys can go up there and give those guys a game, maybe even shock some people. You've got the talent to do it. You just have to do it. Good luck.

Thanks.  Y'all had a great season (see my post in the SAA thread).  It will be a giant challenge, but you never know.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on November 20, 2017, 11:26:53 AM
Quote from: BerryViking92 on November 20, 2017, 08:17:14 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 18, 2017, 07:44:40 PM
Congrats to Berry on the win today. We'll be pulling you guys the rest of the way.
Disappointing ending for a team that came so far this season. Giving up the kick-off return in the second and the long pass play in the third was the difference. We just couldn't quite make the plays to get the comeback at the end. I do feel like that just under 3 minutes left in the game was a hell of a time to call the first/only offensive holding call of the day. I'll have to re-watch and see if it was so obvious to make a call after letting them play the whole game.

Go Hawks! On to the weight room to get ready for the next go around.

Edit: Just found the play. Yep, BS.

The officiating was ... odd...

I felt the same way.  odd, but consistently odd, I guess.... The one that confused me the most was the punt return that had the two penalties, I saw the second one, but missed the first one.  I saw a replay from the sideline and the first one looked incidental, like the defender turned into the Berry player who was following the play.  But the holding calls were strange, very few were called all day.  I think most were called on WRs.  There were several obvious ones on both o-lines that should have been called.  But I've seen much worse crews too.

I knew the Hawks were not going to roll over.  they played tough all game.  I think the injury in the last game was really the tipping point in the game.  At times the younger QB just didn't have a feel for his open receivers.  I was impressed with the visiting crowd, they travelled well.  Hope to meet again next season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 07, 2018, 10:39:56 AM
Huntingdon hasn't published the schedule yet but this is what I assume from the other schedules that are posted. Methodist is already listed on other schedules for 10/13 and 10/27 so that only leaves 9/29 for us to play them. LaGrange has Greensboro on 10/13 and Brevard on 10/27 so I guess it would be safe to assume those are flip-flopped on ours. This also assumes that all home/aways from last season are reversed. I do know homecoming is set for 10/27.


1-Sep      at Guilford •   1:00 PM
8-Sep      vs. Birmingham-Southern •   7:00 PM
22-Sep      vs. Thomas More •   2:00 PM
29-Sep   ??   at Methodist * •   
6-Oct      at Maryville (Tenn.) * •   1:00 PM
13-Oct   ??   Brevard * •   
20-Oct      at Averett * •   TBA
27-Oct   ??   Greensboro * •   
3-Nov      at N.C. Wesleyan * •   1:00 PM
10-Nov      vs. LaGrange * •   2:00 PM
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on March 07, 2018, 09:34:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on March 07, 2018, 10:39:56 AM
Huntingdon hasn't published the schedule yet but this is what I assume from the other schedules that are posted. Methodist is already listed on other schedules for 10/13 and 10/27 so that only leaves 9/29 for us to play them. LaGrange has Greensboro on 10/13 and Brevard on 10/27 so I guess it would be safe to assume those are flip-flopped on ours. This also assumes that all home/aways from last season are reversed. I do know homecoming is set for 10/27.


1-Sep      at Guilford •   1:00 PM
8-Sep      vs. Birmingham-Southern •   7:00 PM
22-Sep      vs. Thomas More •   2:00 PM
29-Sep   ??   at Methodist * •   
6-Oct      at Maryville (Tenn.) * •   1:00 PM
13-Oct   ??   Brevard * •   
20-Oct      at Averett * •   TBA
27-Oct   ??   Greensboro * •   
3-Nov      at N.C. Wesleyan * •   1:00 PM
10-Nov      vs. LaGrange * •   2:00 PM
Hawks88, I hope you are able to make the Sept 1 trip to Guilford. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 08, 2018, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: hasanova on March 07, 2018, 09:34:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on March 07, 2018, 10:39:56 AM
Huntingdon hasn't published the schedule yet but this is what I assume from the other schedules that are posted. Methodist is already listed on other schedules for 10/13 and 10/27 so that only leaves 9/29 for us to play them. LaGrange has Greensboro on 10/13 and Brevard on 10/27 so I guess it would be safe to assume those are flip-flopped on ours. This also assumes that all home/aways from last season are reversed. I do know homecoming is set for 10/27.


1-Sep      at Guilford •   1:00 PM
8-Sep      vs. Birmingham-Southern •   7:00 PM
22-Sep      vs. Thomas More •   2:00 PM
29-Sep   ??   at Methodist * •   
6-Oct      at Maryville (Tenn.) * •   1:00 PM
13-Oct   ??   Brevard * •   
20-Oct      at Averett * •   TBA
27-Oct   ??   Greensboro * •   
3-Nov      at N.C. Wesleyan * •   1:00 PM
10-Nov      vs. LaGrange * •   2:00 PM
Hawks88, I hope you are able to make the Sept 1 trip to Guilford.
That's still the plan, Hasa. Planning to make the Guilford and Maryville trips for sure. We haven't missed the Maryville game since the first one in '04. Averett is the only conference school left that we haven't been to yet so we may do that one too.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 08, 2018, 12:06:29 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on March 08, 2018, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: hasanova on March 07, 2018, 09:34:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on March 07, 2018, 10:39:56 AM
Huntingdon hasn't published the schedule yet but this is what I assume from the other schedules that are posted. Methodist is already listed on other schedules for 10/13 and 10/27 so that only leaves 9/29 for us to play them. LaGrange has Greensboro on 10/13 and Brevard on 10/27 so I guess it would be safe to assume those are flip-flopped on ours. This also assumes that all home/aways from last season are reversed. I do know homecoming is set for 10/27.


1-Sep      at Guilford •   1:00 PM
8-Sep      vs. Birmingham-Southern •   7:00 PM
22-Sep      vs. Thomas More •   2:00 PM
29-Sep   ??   at Methodist * •   
6-Oct      at Maryville (Tenn.) * •   1:00 PM
13-Oct   ??   Brevard * •   
20-Oct      at Averett * •   TBA
27-Oct   ??   Greensboro * •   
3-Nov      at N.C. Wesleyan * •   1:00 PM
10-Nov      vs. LaGrange * •   2:00 PM
Hawks88, I hope you are able to make the Sept 1 trip to Guilford.
That's still the plan, Hasa. Planning to make the Guilford and Maryville trips for sure. We haven't missed the Maryville game since the first one in '04. Averett is the only conference school left that we haven't been to yet so we may do that one too.

Danville isn't on the top of any tourism lists, but since Averett has pumped money into the athletics facilities, it looks like it would be a nice trip. I can't tell you just how bad it was before the renovation, but it looks great now.

Last time I went to a game in Danville, they had just installed the turf (pre-stadium makeover) and there is a little strip of yellow in the turf in the red zone (soccer or lacrosse, maybe?) that looks like a flag from a distance.  If you make the trip, be ye warned.  ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 12, 2018, 03:45:38 PM
I was hoping that our coaching staff had made it through the off-season without any turnover but it looks like DL coach Landius Wilkerson has moved to Jacksonville St to coach DE's. He'll be tough to replace but Turk has done a great job plugging in new guys in the past so I expect he will find someone who can come in and do the job well.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on March 16, 2018, 09:55:15 PM
Making our first trip to Brevard College this season.   What is the town like in Brevard, North Carolina??
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on March 17, 2018, 12:34:40 PM
I think Brevard is fairly close to Asheville. Breweries, Biltmore, shopping, nice restaurants. Asheville is a fine place.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 17, 2018, 04:50:40 PM
Yeah, Brevard is a pretty small town, not much there. We spent a couple nights in Asheville and just went into Brevard long enough for the game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on May 07, 2018, 01:18:32 PM
USA South board has been very quite for the last 2 months....   Anyone know when Media Day will take place this summer.   Had a good talk with Coach Pardue last week and is doing a great job putting together the 2018 team.   Looks like several transfers coming in will help us out on the defensive side this season.   Will be hard replacing QB Conner Blair who threw for 2800 yards last season.18   Hope the run game will pick up in '18.  What's is looking like for the rest of the conference.....
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on May 10, 2018, 11:10:16 AM
Wow.   Just found an article on CBS Sports website that a Maryville College football player was found guilty of killing his ex-girlfriend who was still in high school and a cheerleader.   Here are the links to the story:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/william-riley-gaul-convicted-football-player-found-guilty-of-killing-emma-walker/

https://www.thedailytimes.com/sports/ex-division-iii-player-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/article_0f15c8f6-fe16-5cf9-8634-4f60dd29783a.html

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2018/05/04/witness-william-riley-gaul-went-bed-after-girlfriend-shot/579590002/

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2018/05/08/william-riley-gaul-murder-trial-closing-arguments-jury-deliberations-cheerleader-emma-walker-death/589414002/



Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on May 15, 2018, 05:41:43 PM
Once and former MC football player.  Why it is relevant is unclear.  If he had been a history major, would that have been newsworthy?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 15, 2018, 06:09:27 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on May 15, 2018, 05:41:43 PM
Once and former MC football player.  Why it is relevant is unclear.  If he had been a history major, would that have been newsworthy?
You gotta get the clicks.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on July 12, 2018, 10:33:06 AM
Late to the party on this.

I understand, like Ralph, why media used "ex-college football player". It made dollars and cents.  I wish they would have left it out, but I don't think the actions of a back-up freshman will condemn the program.


In other news, LaGrange's HC stepped down and a replacement was promoted from staff. Any idea what Pardue's "other opportunities" includes?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on July 16, 2018, 06:15:24 PM
NBC Dateline jumped on the story:  Looks like he was still on the MC team when this happened....

https://nbcnews.to/2zF4qaG
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: PantherGuy on July 16, 2018, 08:21:27 PM
Again, great disappointment in the Panther football program.  Todd Mooney should never have been dismissed and its been a mess since Coach Mooney has left.  Now we have our 3rd head coach in 5 years since Mooney was forced to step down.  Might be an AD problem causing the problems....
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 07, 2018, 10:14:08 PM
Huntingdon had over 140 report today including 76 returning players. Practice starts tomorrow.
Now I begin the process of refreshing the roster web page about a zillion times a day until the new one is posted. ;)

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryViking92 on August 08, 2018, 07:38:09 AM
 Why was Coach Mooney forced to step down?

Quote from: PantherGuy on July 16, 2018, 08:21:27 PM
Again, great disappointment in the Panther football program.  Todd Mooney should never have been dismissed and its been a mess since Coach Mooney has left.  Now we have our 3rd head coach in 5 years since Mooney was forced to step down.  Might be an AD problem causing the problems....
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 08, 2018, 02:04:17 PM
USA South pre-season rankings just released. Huntingdon on top.

http://www.usasouth.net/sports/fball/2018-19/releases/20180806fwndaa
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 08, 2018, 03:57:25 PM
No way Maryville should be as high as they are. Averett (can't believe I'm saying this...) will be a good team this year and a dark horse. NCWC should also do well.
I wouldn't be surprised if Maryville had another 5-5 year again. Huntingdon, W&L, Berry, Centre will be challenges.

Excited for Kickoff tomorrow...I'm carving out several hours of nothingness to sit and stare at my screen.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 08, 2018, 04:28:22 PM
Folks, just a reminder that Kickoff '18 goes live tomorrow! Register now if you haven't already!
http://www.d3football.com/notables/2018/06/order-kickoff-2018-now
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 13, 2018, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 07, 2018, 10:14:08 PM
Huntingdon had over 140 report today including 76 returning players. Practice starts tomorrow.
Now I begin the process of refreshing the roster web page about a zillion times a day until the new one is posted. ;)

Go Hawks!
Hawks88, are you making the September 1 trip to Guilford?  Let me know your plans.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 14, 2018, 09:23:11 AM
We have some interesting Week 1 match ups in the USAC this year. Not many that are going to end favorably for the USAC or be an ESPN Instant Classic, but interesting nonetheless.

-Thomas More @ NCWC. I'd say NCWC is less of an underdog in Week 1 2018 than Week 1 2017. What's TMC going to do in their D3 swan song?
-Apprentice @ Greensboro. Not exactly clash of the titans, but can GC avenge a 39-7 Week 1 loss from last year?
-Shenandoah @ Methodist. I thought Methodist would be a program on the up-and-up a few years ago. Not so.  I don't think this will be pretty. Shenandoah has a gunslinger of a QB and averaged 40 points a game last year...
-HSC @ Averett. Is Averett as good as I think they might be this year? HSC isn't the HSC of old, but they aren't going to Danville to roll over.
-Brevard @ Davidson. Is Brevard as good as forecasted in Kickoff, or as middle of the road as the USAC coaches poll?  Can they get closer than a 24-pt loss to a FCS non-scholarship this year?
-LaGrange @ Birmingham-Southern. I feel like LaGrange is a team that could very easily turn it around and start competing for the title every year. Hard to do that with the carousel in the front office.  Congrats to Coach Chambers for a head coaching gig...sorry it came around a few weeks before the season. 
-Huntingdon @ Guilford. HC makes the trip this year. Surprised me a bit with last year's score and the way the season turned out for the Hawks and Quakers. It's hard to bet against Papa Turk. I think HC gets it done this year.
-Maryville @ Berry. To paraphrase Kickoff: did Berry build a good team or good program?  Personally, I think Berry will continue being one of the tougher teams in the region. Facilities and location are top-notch for a football program. Don't believe me? Take a trip. The close Week 1 loss last year put MC in a funk they never got out of. Here's to a better outcome in '18.

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 14, 2018, 02:40:35 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 13, 2018, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 07, 2018, 10:14:08 PM
Huntingdon had over 140 report today including 76 returning players. Practice starts tomorrow.
Now I begin the process of refreshing the roster web page about a zillion times a day until the new one is posted. ;)

Go Hawks!
Hawks88, are you making the September 1 trip to Guilford?  Let me know your plans.
We're still coming. I've got a room booked but that is about as far as my planning has gotten right now.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 14, 2018, 02:53:26 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on August 14, 2018, 09:23:11 AM
We have some interesting Week 1 match ups in the USAC this year. Not many that are going to end favorably for the USAC or be an ESPN Instant Classic, but interesting nonetheless.

-Huntingdon @ Guilford. HC makes the trip this year. Surprised me a bit with last year's score and the way the season turned out for the Hawks and Quakers. It's hard to bet against Papa Turk. I think HC gets it done this year.

Remember that those first 2+ games we just weren't a good football team. We were very lucky to beat BSC then sometime in the middle of game 3 against NC Wesleyan the defense started coming together and making plays and got it turned around. Hopefully we can find that groove a little quicker this year. We do have a big question mark at linebacker as two starters from last year, Brandon Williams and Linell Tarver didn't come back. We have good experience back at most other positions so I think we will be okay if we can get LB taken care of. I'm eager to see how the QB race works out with the three different guys who got playing time last year. I assume we're scrimmaging Berry Saturday but haven't seen or heard anything so I'm not sure.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 14, 2018, 04:08:31 PM
Here's hoping you find the groove early then momentarily fall out of the groove on Oct. 6. ;D

I believe I stumbled across the incoming freshman QB that was mentioned in Kickoff. Trevor Thomas out of GA. Reminds me alot of Evan Pittenger.

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 17, 2018, 10:58:22 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 14, 2018, 02:40:35 PM
Quote from: hasanova on August 13, 2018, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 07, 2018, 10:14:08 PM
Huntingdon had over 140 report today including 76 returning players. Practice starts tomorrow.
Now I begin the process of refreshing the roster web page about a zillion times a day until the new one is posted. ;)

Go Hawks!
Hawks88, are you making the September 1 trip to Guilford?  Let me know your plans.
We're still coming. I've got a room booked but that is about as far as my planning has gotten right now.
Great.  PM me if you need anything.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 19, 2018, 02:45:44 PM
Enjoyed the scrimmage against Berry last night. The defense showed some good things overall. There were a few breakdowns where we gave up long plays but I didn't see anything that can't be fixed over the next two weeks. I'm not as worried about linebacker as I was. Some of the returning guys looked good and a couple of the first year guys look like they can play.
Offensively the line looks strong and we know we have good receivers and three strong RB's. All three of the returning QB's made good plays but there were also mistakes. Still waiting for one of them to separate from the pack. 

Then there's this that I found out about. It was put together by one of our LB's, Casey Kropp, and is pretty awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqrhoYt34XM

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 19, 2018, 03:39:53 PM
What were your thoughts on Berry?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 01, 2018, 05:50:43 PM
Two hour delay so far at Guilford. They have lights so I guess we can keep waiting.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 01, 2018, 07:46:58 PM
This sucks. We wait 3+ hours then in a 20 minute stretch go from headed onto the field,called back off the field, to game canceled, no contest.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 01, 2018, 07:54:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 01, 2018, 07:46:58 PM
This sucks. We wait 3+ hours then in a 20 minute stretch go from headed onto the field,called back off the field, to game canceled, no contest.
I live three miles away, Hawks88, so I went home at 6 pm to see what was going to happen.  There is still a lot of thunder and lightning.  A tough spot for the HCs, ADs and officials.  You have to admit, however, a 10-point difference with 13 minutes to go is still anybody's game.

Drive carefully back to Alabama and thanks for looking me up today.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 01, 2018, 09:28:21 PM
I'm not sure who decided to even send the teams onto the field when they did. It was lightning as bad at that point as it had the whole time. Sure wish we could have finished it.
There's no way I was getting all the way to Alabama tonight at this point. Decided to just stop in Salisbury and start fresh in the morning. I'm glad we got to speak and thanks for the campus tour. That was cool. Good luck to Guilford the rest of the season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 01, 2018, 11:09:18 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 01, 2018, 09:28:21 PM
I'm not sure who decided to even send the teams onto the field when they did. It was lightning as bad at that point as it had the whole time. Sure wish we could have finished it.
There's no way I was getting all the way to Alabama tonight at this point. Decided to just stop in Salisbury and start fresh in the morning. I'm glad we got to speak and thanks for the campus tour. That was cool. Good luck to Guilford the rest of the season.
I figured you wouldn't try to go all the way home tonight ... safe travels on Sunday.  For what it's worth, I'm sure everyone wanted to get the game in.  You're welcome on the tour ... sorry we couldn't walk into Ragan-Brown ... go to our website and take a look.  I hope to see you in Montgomery next year and good luck to the Hawks in 2018.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 02, 2018, 10:25:23 PM
Couldn't watch the game closely yesterday, but I can see it will be a long year for my Scots if they continue to have blown assignments in the secondary, penalties and lackluster QB play.

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 06, 2018, 02:31:41 PM
SO ready for Saturday to get here, at home against BSC under the lights. If our offense can approach what they did last week then I think we will be okay, especially if the defense can correct some things and put together a good game.  It's Birmingham-Southern, though, so if we aren't sharp they can always cause us problems.

Go Hawks!

In other stuff to gripe about, I'm not sure what's up with the Montgomery Advertiser but there has been almost no coverage of Huntingdon or Faulkner this season. I think we both had a single article about the first day of camp and small game write-ups on Sundays. In the past they have had season previews the week of the first game and game previews on game days along with videos with coach and player interviews on Wednesdays. All of these things are still there for Auburn, Alabama, Troy and Alabama State but zero for us. They still have plenty of high school coverage but I guess something had to get cut and we were it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 08, 2018, 10:26:28 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 06, 2018, 02:31:41 PM
SO ready for Saturday to get here, at home against BSC under the lights. If our offense can approach what they did last week then I think we will be okay, especially if the defense can correct some things and put together a good game.  It's Birmingham-Southern, though, so if we aren't sharp they can always cause us problems.

Go Hawks!

In other stuff to gripe about, I'm not sure what's up with the Montgomery Advertiser but there has been almost no coverage of Huntingdon or Faulkner this season. I think we both had a single article about the first day of camp and small game write-ups on Sundays. In the past they have had season previews the week of the first game and game previews on game days along with videos with coach and player interviews on Wednesdays. All of these things are still there for Auburn, Alabama, Troy and Alabama State but zero for us. They still have plenty of high school coverage but I guess something had to get cut and we were it.
Huntingdon is not alone in lack of coverage.  Guilford is in the middle of ACC country and, with NC A&T, Elon and Appalachian thrown into the mix, we get virtually nothing from the Greensboro News and Record.  There was zero mention pregame or postgame of last week's 'game" versus the Hawks.  It is really sad.  Unless you are a DIII in a town or small city and are literally the only game in town, this is what you'll get.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 09, 2018, 01:52:33 AM
I'm not sure what to think at this point. Into the third quarter it seemed like we were in control. We got the turnover to start the third and drove for a TD to make it 28-13. Then BSC drove inside the ten but we stopped them on 4th and goal at the 11. From there on it was a nightmare that was all BSC. Our offense stopped executing and the defense started giving up these long bombs and BSC scored 28 straight before we scored with 7 seconds left and didn't get the onside kick. Glad we have the open date next week so we have two weeks to stew over this and find a way to fix the mistakes. Hopefully we can get things straightened out.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 09, 2018, 08:41:12 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 09, 2018, 01:52:33 AM
I'm not sure what to think at this point. Into the third quarter it seemed like we were in control. We got the turnover to start the third and drove for a TD to make it 28-13. Then BSC drove inside the ten but we stopped them on 4th and goal at the 11. From there on it was a nightmare that was all BSC. Our offense stopped executing and the defense started giving up these long bombs and BSC scored 28 straight before we scored with 7 seconds left and didn't get the onside kick. Glad we have the open date next week so we have two weeks to stew over this and find a way to fix the mistakes. Hopefully we can get things straightened out.

Go Hawks!
Yeah, I looked at the boxscore and saw the 28 straight scored by BSC.  Huntingdon is certainly a good offensive team, but the Defense has surrendered a lot of points this season.  I'm sure the HC coaching staff will put these two weeks to good use and keep the team spirit high ... as with last week, none of this affects the USASAC and the automatic bid if they win the conference.  Good luck to the Hawks.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 09, 2018, 09:44:15 PM
Pray for Scots.

Offense is inept. Defensive is simply porous. Special teams is non-existent.
Players who've contributed in the past are either gone or not getting PT. Just a head scratcher for the first 2 weeks.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 11, 2018, 10:58:30 AM
W&L and Maryville officially postpone their game. Both teams have a bye week 9/22, and the release from W&L says a make up date is likely.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on September 21, 2018, 11:35:02 AM
Who is Methodist playing this week?  I know the flooding has closed their campus most of the week?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 21, 2018, 11:58:49 AM
This is their scheduled open date. They were supposed to play E&H last week but weren't able to reschedule it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 22, 2018, 07:11:45 PM
Hawks88, tough start to the season for Huntingdon.  Look on the bright side, USAC play starts next Saturday.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 22, 2018, 08:49:47 PM
That's what we're doing, Hasa, looking on the bright side. It was a much better effort than the BSC game but still some issues. Defense played better but I still wish our tackling was better and another long stretch of the second half where the offense went pretty quiet and didn't get much done. Hopefully we can keep improving and get it going in conference play.
We weren't real thrilled with some of the officiating. It's like the referee saw that Clay Matthews roughing the passer call on Sunday and decided it was a good call because he called a couple of very similar ones on us. But, hey what can you do.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on September 23, 2018, 10:39:47 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 22, 2018, 08:49:47 PM
That's what we're doing, Hasa, looking on the bright side. It was a much better effort than the BSC game but still some issues. Defense played better but I still wish our tackling was better and another long stretch of the second half where the offense went pretty quiet and didn't get much done. Hopefully we can keep improving and get it going in conference play.
We weren't real thrilled with some of the officiating. It's like the referee saw that Clay Matthews roughing the passer call on Sunday and decided it was a good call because he called a couple of very similar ones on us. But, hey what can you do.

Go Hawks!
I still expect to see the Hawks in the hunt for the USAC title.   NCWC did beat TMC, however, and Averett appears to be tough. Good luck.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 29, 2018, 02:20:36 PM
Not pretty in Fayetteville, down 20-7 at the half. Tackling isn't improved any from last week. I don't know how bad it would be if Methodist didn't have 5 or 6 drops. On the other side I don't think I've ever seen our offense this ineffective. Hopefully we can find something for the second half.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 29, 2018, 02:57:06 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 29, 2018, 02:20:36 PM
Not pretty in Fayetteville, down 20-7 at the half. Tackling isn't improved any from last week. I don't know how bad it would be if Methodist didn't have 5 or 6 drops. On the other side I don't think I've ever seen our offense this ineffective. Hopefully we can find something for the second half.
34-7 midway through 3rd. Gonna be a lonnnnnng year.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 29, 2018, 04:19:17 PM
Final in Fayetteville, Methodist 48 Huntingdon 34. Made some plays offensively late but our defense would have had to get a stop or two for us to really have made it close.
First time to be 0-3 since 2004 when we were new and didn't really know what we were doing yet. Pretty much uncharted territory here.
At Maryville next week. Can we get it together or does the streak come to an end?

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 01, 2018, 07:44:27 AM
MC's defense played well on Saturday, but the offense is still struggling. Multiple stalled drives in the red zone. I think the streak might be safe, but hoping to get the monkey off our backs.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 02, 2018, 11:08:02 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 29, 2018, 04:19:17 PM
Final in Fayetteville, Methodist 48 Huntingdon 34. Made some plays offensively late but our defense would have had to get a stop or two for us to really have made it close.
First time to be 0-3 since 2004 when we were new and didn't really know what we were doing yet. Pretty much uncharted territory here.
At Maryville next week. Can we get it together or does the streak come to an end?

Go Hawks!
Hawks88, surprising outcome in Fayetteville.  I didn't see this coming.  Hopefully, HC can regroup and get going the rest of the season.  I think a second USAC loss would probably knock them out of the conference championship unless they won a head-to-head tiebreaker with another contender.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 02, 2018, 09:28:29 PM
Pat Coleman, while looking at Greensboro's upcoming schedule, it caught my eye that the Pride had eleven games under their link in d3football.  Upon further examination, it looks like games against both Maryville and Middle Georgia on Nov. 3.  I'm pretty sure the Middle Georgia entry is in error.  Thanks for all you do to accurately promote and report d3football.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2018, 08:58:39 AM
Thanks. I can't keep Middle Georgia from screwing up but I'll see if I can delete it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 03, 2018, 04:23:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2018, 08:58:39 AM
Thanks. I can't keep Middle Georgia from screwing up but I'll see if I can delete it.
Yes, Middle Georgia is known for their incorrigible behavior.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2018, 04:39:53 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 03, 2018, 04:23:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2018, 08:58:39 AM
Thanks. I can't keep Middle Georgia from screwing up but I'll see if I can delete it.
Yes, Middle Georgia is known for their incorrigible behavior.

I had issues with them and their game with UWW also. Issues with them being on the same network as we are.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 03, 2018, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2018, 04:39:53 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 03, 2018, 04:23:25 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2018, 08:58:39 AM
Thanks. I can't keep Middle Georgia from screwing up but I'll see if I can delete it.
Yes, Middle Georgia is known for their incorrigible behavior.

I had issues with them and their game with UWW also. Issues with them being on the same network as we are.
Ah, got it.  Thanks.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 06, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
The streak is over.



... and depression sets in.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 07, 2018, 08:22:57 PM
First W over Huntingdon since W. was in the Big House.  8-)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on October 08, 2018, 08:41:46 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 06, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
The streak is over.



... and depression sets in.

certainly unexpected outcome this season. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 08, 2018, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 06, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
The streak is over.



... and depression sets in.
Surprising season for the Hawks.  Who do you think will win the USASAC now?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 08, 2018, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 08, 2018, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 06, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
The streak is over.



... and depression sets in.
Surprising season for the Hawks.  Who do you think will win the USASAC now?
Likely the winner of Averett - NC Wesleyan this week.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 10, 2018, 03:39:01 PM
Ferrum at Guilford changed to Friday at 7 due to Michael.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 13, 2018, 08:59:49 PM
Well, that was more like it. Much better execution on both sides of the ball. Still a few too many missed tackles and receivers running around open but the defense was able to make some plays and get off the field a lot better.
Big trip to Averett next. Hopefully we can keep improving.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on October 14, 2018, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 08, 2018, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 08, 2018, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 06, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
The streak is over.



... and depression sets in.
Surprising season for the Hawks.  Who do you think will win the USASAC now?
Likely the winner of Averett - NC Wesleyan this week.
looks like Averett has the advantage.  Also I see Maryville has bounced back and is also undefeated in the conference.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 15, 2018, 08:18:26 AM
Quote from: BerryCollegeFan on October 14, 2018, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 08, 2018, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 08, 2018, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 06, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
The streak is over.



... and depression sets in.
Surprising season for the Hawks.  Who do you think will win the USASAC now?
Likely the winner of Averett - NC Wesleyan this week.
looks like Averett has the advantage.  Also I see Maryville has bounced back and is also undefeated in the conference.

Maryville is playing much better. Freshmen QB's seem to be settling in and playing well. Two tough teams to start out wasn't fun with that QB situation.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on October 15, 2018, 10:02:59 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 15, 2018, 08:18:26 AM
Quote from: BerryCollegeFan on October 14, 2018, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 08, 2018, 10:37:24 PM
Quote from: hasanova on October 08, 2018, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 06, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
The streak is over.



... and depression sets in.
Surprising season for the Hawks.  Who do you think will win the USASAC now?
Likely the winner of Averett - NC Wesleyan this week.
looks like Averett has the advantage.  Also I see Maryville has bounced back and is also undefeated in the conference.

Maryville is playing much better. Freshmen QB's seem to be settling in and playing well. Two tough teams to start out wasn't fun with that QB situation.
Having to playa freshman QB early can be troublesome, especially with the lack of pre-season practice allowed in the D3 rules.  even the power 5 teams have their learning curves with true freshmen.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on October 22, 2018, 01:03:34 PM
Averett and Maryville playing this weekend.  Big game for the playoffs.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on October 27, 2018, 10:05:09 PM
Looks like Maryville has recovered from their rocky start.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on October 28, 2018, 03:51:39 PM
Learning sometimes takes a while....
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on October 29, 2018, 12:13:30 PM
MC has Greensboro and NCWC left on the schedule. Can't be any better for Maryville. Just beat Greensboro.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 29, 2018, 08:45:28 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 29, 2018, 12:13:30 PM
MC has Greensboro and NCWC left on the schedule. Can't be any better for Maryville. Just beat Greensboro.
I don't think beating Greensboro will be too tough for the Scots.  The Pride are not very good this season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on October 30, 2018, 10:38:02 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 29, 2018, 08:45:28 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 29, 2018, 12:13:30 PM
MC has Greensboro and NCWC left on the schedule. Can't be any better for Maryville. Just beat Greensboro.
I don't think beating Greensboro will be too tough for the Scots.  The Pride are not very good this season.

So does the USASAC come down to NCWC and MC Week 11?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 30, 2018, 11:15:56 AM
Quote from: MANDGSU on October 30, 2018, 10:38:02 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 29, 2018, 08:45:28 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 29, 2018, 12:13:30 PM
MC has Greensboro and NCWC left on the schedule. Can't be any better for Maryville. Just beat Greensboro.
I don't think beating Greensboro will be too tough for the Scots.  The Pride are not very good this season.

So does the USASAC come down to NCWC and MC Week 11?
If Maryville beats Greensboro and Huntingdon beats NCWC this week then Maryville clinches the AQ. They would still need to beat NCWC next week to win the conference outright unless Averett were to lose one.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on October 30, 2018, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 30, 2018, 11:15:56 AM
Quote from: MANDGSU on October 30, 2018, 10:38:02 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 29, 2018, 08:45:28 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 29, 2018, 12:13:30 PM
MC has Greensboro and NCWC left on the schedule. Can't be any better for Maryville. Just beat Greensboro.
I don't think beating Greensboro will be too tough for the Scots.  The Pride are not very good this season.

So does the USASAC come down to NCWC and MC Week 11?
If Maryville beats Greensboro and Huntingdon beats NCWC this week then Maryville clinches the AQ. They would still need to beat NCWC next week to win the conference outright unless Averett were to lose one.

Okay, I was confused with Scots post about beating Greensboro, which I though the statement was implying that if Maryville beats Greensboro, they'd be conference champs.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 30, 2018, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: MANDGSU on October 30, 2018, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 30, 2018, 11:15:56 AM
Quote from: MANDGSU on October 30, 2018, 10:38:02 AM
Quote from: hasanova on October 29, 2018, 08:45:28 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on October 29, 2018, 12:13:30 PM
MC has Greensboro and NCWC left on the schedule. Can't be any better for Maryville. Just beat Greensboro.
I don't think beating Greensboro will be too tough for the Scots.  The Pride are not very good this season.

So does the USASAC come down to NCWC and MC Week 11?
If Maryville beats Greensboro and Huntingdon beats NCWC this week then Maryville clinches the AQ. They would still need to beat NCWC next week to win the conference outright unless Averett were to lose one.

Okay, I was confused with Scots post about beating Greensboro, which I though the statement was implying that if Maryville beats Greensboro, they'd be conference champs.
If Maryville beats Greensboro then they do clinch a share of the conference title. They just need other stuff to happen to get the AQ.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on October 30, 2018, 10:27:24 PM
It is possible for a 3-way tie if NCWC beats Maryville, AU wins out, MC beats GC and NCWC beats HC.  It would be AU beat NCWC, NCWC beat MC and MC beat AU.  In this case, the Head-to-Head cannot be the AQ tie-breaker.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on November 01, 2018, 08:28:31 PM
that's several things to happen.  any ideas what the tie breakers are if needed?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 01, 2018, 08:49:44 PM
No clue. Not any on the conference web site that I can find.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 01, 2018, 09:56:24 PM
Quote from: BerryCollegeFan on November 01, 2018, 08:28:31 PM
that's several things to happen.  any ideas what the tie breakers are if needed?
Sometimes, it's the team that hasn't been to the playoffs in the longest period of time ... but I'm not at all sure how the USASAC does it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 02, 2018, 08:13:54 AM
Sorry--jumped the gun a little. Yes, share. No, AQ on Saturday.


Jumping in the way back machine to 2012, MC was in a 3 way tie with CNU and Ferrum. Maryville beat Ferrum and Methodist beat CNU on the last week of the season. CNU beat Maryville a couple weeks before.  The tie was at 5-2 in USAC play. CNU got the tie breaker and the AQ. 

Ferrum ended up 7-3 and both Maryville and CNU were 6-4, but CNU finished 6-5 after a 1st Round at Mt. Union.

This tells me 2 things: 1) overall record doesn't mean anything and 2) longest absenteeism from the playoff wouldn't matter (Maryville would have been AQ that year I believe in that situation).

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 02, 2018, 10:33:04 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 02, 2018, 08:13:54 AM
Sorry--jumped the gun a little. Yes, share. No, AQ on Saturday.


Jumping in the way back machine to 2012, MC was in a 3 way tie with CNU and Ferrum. Maryville beat Ferrum and Methodist beat CNU on the last week of the season. CNU beat Maryville a couple weeks before.  The tie was at 5-2 in USAC play. CNU got the tie breaker and the AQ. 

Ferrum ended up 7-3 and both Maryville and CNU were 6-4, but CNU finished 6-5 after a 1st Round at Mt. Union.

This tells me 2 things: 1) overall record doesn't mean anything and 2) longest absenteeism from the playoff wouldn't matter (Maryville would have been AQ that year I believe in that situation).
Well, you are describing a 5-2 three-way tie.  I was describing a 6-1 three-way tie.   When there is a second conference loss there is a tie-breaker for results against other teams.  In a one-loss scenario, this can't happen.  There was a 4-way tie among two-loss teams in the ODAC in 2014 so I know how the other teams fared applied in that situation.  Once two were eliminated, then it was head-to-head among the remaining two.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 02, 2018, 12:10:50 PM
Quote from: hasanova on November 02, 2018, 10:33:04 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 02, 2018, 08:13:54 AM
Sorry--jumped the gun a little. Yes, share. No, AQ on Saturday.


Jumping in the way back machine to 2012, MC was in a 3 way tie with CNU and Ferrum. Maryville beat Ferrum and Methodist beat CNU on the last week of the season. CNU beat Maryville a couple weeks before.  The tie was at 5-2 in USAC play. CNU got the tie breaker and the AQ. 

Ferrum ended up 7-3 and both Maryville and CNU were 6-4, but CNU finished 6-5 after a 1st Round at Mt. Union.

This tells me 2 things: 1) overall record doesn't mean anything and 2) longest absenteeism from the playoff wouldn't matter (Maryville would have been AQ that year I believe in that situation).
Well, you are describing a 5-2 three-way tie.  I was describing a 6-1 three-way tie.   When there is a second conference loss there is a tie-breaker for results against other teams.  In a one-loss scenario, this can't happen.  There was a 4-way tie among two-loss teams in the ODAC in 2014 so I know how the other teams fared applied in that situation.  Once two were eliminated, then it was head-to-head among the remaining two.

I see your point, hasa.

I looked at the archives on CNU's website. They beat both MC and Ferrum that year so had the h2h on both schools. They lost to LaGrange and Methodist that year.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2018, 04:10:45 PM
Congrats to Maryville. Glad we could help.  ::)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on November 03, 2018, 06:21:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 03, 2018, 04:10:45 PM
Congrats to Maryville. Glad we could help.  ::)

Very convincing way to help!

Back to Berry again?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2018, 07:28:03 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 03, 2018, 06:21:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 03, 2018, 04:10:45 PM
Congrats to Maryville. Glad we could help.  ::)

Very convincing way to help!

Back to Berry again?
It's hard to say. There are other options that are within 500 miles of Maryville that would avoid the rematch but they are pretty limited as far as what they can do with Berry.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 04, 2018, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 02, 2018, 12:10:50 PM
Quote from: hasanova on November 02, 2018, 10:33:04 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on November 02, 2018, 08:13:54 AM
Sorry--jumped the gun a little. Yes, share. No, AQ on Saturday.


Jumping in the way back machine to 2012, MC was in a 3 way tie with CNU and Ferrum. Maryville beat Ferrum and Methodist beat CNU on the last week of the season. CNU beat Maryville a couple weeks before.  The tie was at 5-2 in USAC play. CNU got the tie breaker and the AQ. 

Ferrum ended up 7-3 and both Maryville and CNU were 6-4, but CNU finished 6-5 after a 1st Round at Mt. Union.

This tells me 2 things: 1) overall record doesn't mean anything and 2) longest absenteeism from the playoff wouldn't matter (Maryville would have been AQ that year I believe in that situation).
Well, you are describing a 5-2 three-way tie.  I was describing a 6-1 three-way tie.   When there is a second conference loss there is a tie-breaker for results against other teams.  In a one-loss scenario, this can't happen.  There was a 4-way tie among two-loss teams in the ODAC in 2014 so I know how the other teams fared applied in that situation.  Once two were eliminated, then it was head-to-head among the remaining two.

I see your point, hasa.

I looked at the archives on CNU's website. They beat both MC and Ferrum that year so had the h2h on both schools. They lost to LaGrange and Methodist that year.
Yeah, the really tough one is a three-way tie among one-loss teams where A beat B, B beat C and C beat A.

Congratulations to the Scots!  I will be watching with interest to see where they're paired in the playoffs.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Air Raid on November 11, 2018, 09:41:39 AM
is there any chance Averett makes the 32 team playoffs as an at large?  I realize it's slim but it's a fairly impressive season with their only losses coming to two conference champions
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2018, 12:34:25 PM
Quote from: Air Raid on November 11, 2018, 09:41:39 AM
is there any chance Averett makes the 32 team playoffs as an at large?  I realize it's slim but it's a fairly impressive season with their only losses coming to two conference champions

No, no chance. Averett's strength of schedule is below .500 and no two-loss team has ever gotten an at-large with an SOS of lower than about .550.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Air Raid on November 11, 2018, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 11, 2018, 12:34:25 PM
Quote from: Air Raid on November 11, 2018, 09:41:39 AM
is there any chance Averett makes the 32 team playoffs as an at large?  I realize it's slim but it's a fairly impressive season with their only losses coming to two conference champions

No, no chance. Averett's strength of schedule is below .500 and no two-loss team has ever gotten an at-large with an SOS of lower than about .550.

Thank you.  I appreciate you taking time to answer my question.  There are several deserving teams, and a difficult task determining who gets in and/or left out.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ITH radio on March 11, 2019, 12:57:35 PM
Pretty interesting scheduling here by NCW and Stetson (a FCS school near Orlando, FL that went 8-2 last season):

https://fbschedules.com/stetson-to-host-a-pair-of-division-iii-teams-in-2019/
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on March 11, 2019, 04:45:31 PM
Quote from: ITH radio on March 11, 2019, 12:57:35 PM
Pretty interesting scheduling here by NCW and Stetson (a FCS school near Orlando, FL that went 8-2 last season):

https://fbschedules.com/stetson-to-host-a-pair-of-division-iii-teams-in-2019/

Not the first time Stetson has dipped into DIII since they brought their program back, but it's been a while. They played Birmingham Southern in 14 and 15 I believe. Seems like a bunch of these Pioneer League teams are jumping on the Butler bandwagon lately. Davidson, Jacksonville St, now Stetson. Not sure why this is becoming more popular. I guess the DIII schools are jumping at the chance to get a little more cash, Guilford clearly used the Davidson and Jacksonville games to pay for the trip to Huntingdon, but it just seems stupid to me.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 14, 2019, 09:24:06 PM
Huntingdon posted their schedule today. Not really posted but if you change the years in the url it comes up. Interesting trip to Oshkosh week three.

Sept. 7    Guilford                           1:00 PM CDT
Sept. 14    at Birmingham Southern   6:00 PM CDT
Sept. 21    at Wis.-Oshkosh          12:00 PM CDT
Oct. 5    Methodist *                   1:00 PM CDT
Oct. 12    Maryville (Tenn.) *           1:00 PM CDT
Oct. 19    at Brevard *                 12:00 PM CDT
Oct. 26    Averett *                          1:00 PM CDT
Nov. 2    at Greensboro *         12:00 PM CDT
Nov. 9    N.C. Wesleyan *          1:00 PM CST
Nov. 16    at LaGrange *                12:00 PM CST
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on April 17, 2019, 05:00:11 PM
Has Maryville found a game for the 28th of September? Asking for Salisbury?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 17, 2019, 10:02:12 PM
Quote from: MANDGSU on April 17, 2019, 05:00:11 PM
Has Maryville found a game for the 28th of September? Asking for Salisbury?
I don't think they would be looking for one there. Looks like they already have three non-conf games weeks one, two, and three. With 7 conference games, week 4 would be their open date.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 03, 2019, 10:13:56 AM
Alright folks. If anyone is paying attention, I'm heading to a campground just out of LaGrange GA this weekend with the family. Other than some fishing, relaxing, maybe boating on West Point Lake, any things I just shouldn't miss in the area? We've been to Calloway Gardens, the drive through safari, and FDR State Park in the past. Anywhere in LaGrange we should definitely try and eat at? If I get some time I'll probably take a drive through of campus. I always like visiting other DIII schools.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 03, 2019, 04:25:13 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 03, 2019, 10:13:56 AM
Alright folks. If anyone is paying attention, I'm heading to a campground just out of LaGrange GA this weekend with the family. Other than some fishing, relaxing, maybe boating on West Point Lake, any things I just shouldn't miss in the area? We've been to Calloway Gardens, the drive through safari, and FDR State Park in the past. Anywhere in LaGrange we should definitely try and eat at? If I get some time I'll probably take a drive through of campus. I always like visiting other DIII schools.
They've got that big new indoor water-park, Great Wolf Lodge. Though I haven't really heard much about it. I had forgotten about it until a couple weeks ago when we were in that direction and I missed my exit(sucks getting old) and saw it from the interstate. Can't really help on restaurants. We haven't really eaten many places there and nothing has given me that "Gotta go back sometime" feeling.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 03, 2019, 04:26:19 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 03, 2019, 04:25:13 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 03, 2019, 10:13:56 AM
Alright folks. If anyone is paying attention, I'm heading to a campground just out of LaGrange GA this weekend with the family. Other than some fishing, relaxing, maybe boating on West Point Lake, any things I just shouldn't miss in the area? We've been to Calloway Gardens, the drive through safari, and FDR State Park in the past. Anywhere in LaGrange we should definitely try and eat at? If I get some time I'll probably take a drive through of campus. I always like visiting other DIII schools.
They've got that big new indoor water-park, Great Wolf Lodge. Though I haven't really heard much about it. I had forgotten about it until a couple weeks ago when we were in that direction and I missed my exit(sucks getting old) and saw it from the interstate. Can't really help on restaurants. We haven't really eaten many places there and nothing has given me that "Gotta go back sometime" feeling.

Yeah. Great Wolf really requires a stay. Otherwise day passes are stupidly expensive. Thanks though!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 03, 2019, 06:07:20 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 03, 2019, 04:26:19 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 03, 2019, 04:25:13 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 03, 2019, 10:13:56 AM
Alright folks. If anyone is paying attention, I'm heading to a campground just out of LaGrange GA this weekend with the family. Other than some fishing, relaxing, maybe boating on West Point Lake, any things I just shouldn't miss in the area? We've been to Calloway Gardens, the drive through safari, and FDR State Park in the past. Anywhere in LaGrange we should definitely try and eat at? If I get some time I'll probably take a drive through of campus. I always like visiting other DIII schools.
They've got that big new indoor water-park, Great Wolf Lodge. Though I haven't really heard much about it. I had forgotten about it until a couple weeks ago when we were in that direction and I missed my exit(sucks getting old) and saw it from the interstate. Can't really help on restaurants. We haven't really eaten many places there and nothing has given me that "Gotta go back sometime" feeling.

Yeah. Great Wolf really requires a stay. Otherwise day passes are stupidly expensive. Thanks though!
Glad I could be of assistance.  ;)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 03, 2019, 09:01:07 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 03, 2019, 06:07:20 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 03, 2019, 04:26:19 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 03, 2019, 04:25:13 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 03, 2019, 10:13:56 AM
Alright folks. If anyone is paying attention, I'm heading to a campground just out of LaGrange GA this weekend with the family. Other than some fishing, relaxing, maybe boating on West Point Lake, any things I just shouldn't miss in the area? We've been to Calloway Gardens, the drive through safari, and FDR State Park in the past. Anywhere in LaGrange we should definitely try and eat at? If I get some time I'll probably take a drive through of campus. I always like visiting other DIII schools.
They've got that big new indoor water-park, Great Wolf Lodge. Though I haven't really heard much about it. I had forgotten about it until a couple weeks ago when we were in that direction and I missed my exit(sucks getting old) and saw it from the interstate. Can't really help on restaurants. We haven't really eaten many places there and nothing has given me that "Gotta go back sometime" feeling.

Yeah. Great Wolf really requires a stay. Otherwise day passes are stupidly expensive. Thanks though!
Glad I could be of assistance.  ;)

You took the time to answer so I appreciate the effort!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 10, 2019, 04:42:35 PM
Was in Lagrange camping over the weekend. Took the ti.e to visit campus. It's very nice from the outside. Compact, great looking signature architecture. Really a nice looking campus including the gymnasium. Didn't see a stadium and i think i remember them playing at a municipal stadium, but otherwise I was impressed.

I was even more impressed by the food at Venucci's in downtown. Really, really good and reasonably priced Italian, and i grew up in NJ and lived in Manhattan for years, so I'm picky about Italian food. This was fantastic. Would highly recommend if you are in town for a game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 10, 2019, 05:05:42 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 10, 2019, 04:42:35 PM
... and i think i remember them playing at a municipal stadium, but otherwise I was impressed.


Callaway Stadium is about 0.5 miles south of the campus.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on June 11, 2019, 10:08:38 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 10, 2019, 05:05:42 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 10, 2019, 04:42:35 PM
... and i think i remember them playing at a municipal stadium, but otherwise I was impressed.


Callaway Stadium is about 0.5 miles south of the campus.

Everything is named Callaway down there after the old Callaway Mills and Family. We've been to Callaway Gardens and my parents visited the Callaway historical center. About half the buildings are Callaway as well. They were the only thing going in the area for 100 years, but they did a lot of philanthropy as well so I guess they earned it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 14, 2019, 09:54:10 AM
I have been an avid reader of the USA South board since the beginning.  I am going to get off the bench and get into the game.  Here are my uneducated guesses/observations heading into the 2019 season:

1. Averett should be considered the favorite heading into this season.  They are returning the most All-Conference performers (7 I believe) including the QB.  Coach Adams has done a tremendous job since taking the head spot.

2. Maryville and Huntingdon will follow the Cougars closely for the crown.  Both have established head coaches with a track record for success.  The Scots brings back 5 All-Conference players and should have one of the better defenses in the USAC.  The Hawks return an All-Conference QB and their offense will likely be the top in the league again.

3. Now we get to the log jam.  In alphabetical order Brevard, LaGrange, Methodist, and NCWC could compete with the top three on any given Saturday but will likely finish 4-7 in the standings but I have a hard time saying where.  Brevard brings back their offensive ROY in their QB.  LaGrange brings back their starting QB and some talent at WR.  Methodist brings back the offensive POY in their RB.  NCWC appears to have been hit hard by graduation but they typically have athletes in the cupboard who will be able to replace them.

4. Sorry but someone has to finish last and unless there is a major turnaround it will be the Pride of Greensboro.

There are a few teams with some interesting non-conference games on the slate.
Maryville will play #16 ranked (d3dootball.com) Berry and #20 ranked Centre
Huntingdon will travel to Wisconsin to play Oshkosh
Averett will play #24 ranked Randolph Macon, perennial conference top dog Hampden-Sydney, and Ferrum (who returns one of the best running backs in the nation in Mann

I believe that there is not much to gain from comparison scoring but it is still fun for fun sake
Brevard, Greensboro, and LaGrange will all play Apprentice
Methodist and NCWC will play Shenandoah
Huntingdon and Methodist both play Guilford
Huntingdon and LaGrange both play Birmingham Southern
Averett and Greensboro both play Ferrum
LaGrange and Marryville both play Berry

And as usual the USAC vs ODAC non-conference tournament will occur.  The ODAC has dominated the crossover in recent years.  Last year the ODAC took 5 out of 6 with 2 games canceled due to the hurricane.  If I did my research correct you have to go back to 2005 to find a winning record for the USAC with 6 out of 7 going in favor of the USAC.  Three of those teams are no longer in the conference (CNU, Ferrum, & Shenandoah) and 2 are in the ODAC now.  There are 10 opportunities this season with the highlight stated above being Averett vs Randolph-Macon.  This should be the two preseason favorites and last season in Ashland it was a 3 point game in the 4th quarter.  On paper the game looked fairly evenly matched. 

I hope everyone has great success in the non conference slate and a great 2019. 

GO MONARCHS!

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on August 14, 2019, 10:04:11 AM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on August 14, 2019, 09:54:10 AM
I have been an avid reader of the USA South board since the beginning.  I am going to get off the bench and get into the game.  Here are my uneducated guesses/observations heading into the 2019 season:

1. Averett should be considered the favorite heading into this season.  They are returning the most All-Conference performers (7 I believe) including the QB.  Coach Adams has done a tremendous job since taking the head spot.

2. Maryville and Huntingdon will follow the Cougars closely for the crown.  Both have established head coaches with a track record for success.  The Scots brings back 5 All-Conference players and should have one of the better defenses in the USAC.  The Hawks return an All-Conference QB and their offense will likely be the top in the league again.

3. Now we get to the log jam.  In alphabetical order Brevard, LaGrange, Methodist, and NCWC could compete with the top three on any given Saturday but will likely finish 4-7 in the standings but I have a hard time saying where.  Brevard brings back their offensive ROY in their QB.  LaGrange brings back their starting QB and some talent at WR.  Methodist brings back the offensive POY in their RB.  NCWC appears to have been hit hard by graduation but they typically have athletes in the cupboard who will be able to replace them.

4. Sorry but someone has to finish last and unless there is a major turnaround it will be the Pride of Greensboro.

There are a few teams with some interesting non-conference games on the slate.
Maryville will play #16 ranked (d3dootball.com) Berry and #20 ranked Centre
Huntingdon will travel to Wisconsin to play Oshkosh
Averett will play #24 ranked Randolph Macon, perennial conference top dog Hampden-Sydney, and Ferrum (who returns one of the best running backs in the nation in Mann

I believe that there is not much to gain from comparison scoring but it is still fun for fun sake
Brevard, Greensboro, and LaGrange will all play Apprentice
Methodist and NCWC will play Shenandoah
Huntingdon and Methodist both play Guilford
Huntingdon and LaGrange both play Birmingham Southern
Averett and Greensboro both play Ferrum
LaGrange and Marryville both play Berry

And as usual the USAC vs ODAC non-conference tournament will occur.  The ODAC has dominated the crossover in recent years.  Last year the ODAC took 5 out of 6 with 2 games canceled due to the hurricane.  If I did my research correct you have to go back to 2005 to find a winning record for the USAC with 6 out of 7 going in favor of the USAC.  Three of those teams are no longer in the conference (CNU, Ferrum, & Shenandoah) and 2 are in the ODAC now.  There are 10 opportunities this season with the highlight stated above being Averett vs Randolph-Macon.  This should be the two preseason favorites and last season in Ashland it was a 3 point game in the 4th quarter.  On paper the game looked fairly evenly matched. 

I hope everyone has great success in the non conference slate and a great 2019. 

GO MONARCHS!

Good synopsis!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 14, 2019, 05:55:04 PM
Welcome Wild Horse Rider!

+1!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 14, 2019, 10:35:10 PM
Huntingdon had 126 players report today, 71 returning players and 55 newcomers.

Ready for some football!

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 16, 2019, 08:54:50 AM
#16 Berry, #20 Centre and (waiting for Kickoff) a much improved Hanover.
Might be another tough OOC year for my boys.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 16, 2019, 10:13:22 AM
Scots I am really hoping for a good non-conference showing from Maryville as it will do nothing but improve the conferences national perception.  I also really think that Huntingdon trip to Wisconsin will help if they can return south with a W.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 20, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
Eh, forgot my Kickoff password. Waiting for the reset email so that my afternoon productivity can approach zero.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 20, 2019, 02:42:29 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 20, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
Eh, forgot my Kickoff password. Waiting for the reset email so that my afternoon productivity can approach zero.

Presto's password reset doesn't work very well. Drop me an email instead?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 20, 2019, 03:04:29 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 20, 2019, 02:42:29 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 20, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
Eh, forgot my Kickoff password. Waiting for the reset email so that my afternoon productivity can approach zero.

Presto's password reset doesn't work very well. Drop me an email instead?

Will do. Thanks, Pat.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: CNU85 on August 21, 2019, 02:24:07 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 20, 2019, 02:42:29 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 20, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
Eh, forgot my Kickoff password. Waiting for the reset email so that my afternoon productivity can approach zero.

Presto's password reset doesn't work very well. Drop me an email instead?

and when it works, it calls you names!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: wally_wabash on August 21, 2019, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 20, 2019, 03:04:29 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 20, 2019, 02:42:29 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 20, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
Eh, forgot my Kickoff password. Waiting for the reset email so that my afternoon productivity can approach zero.

Presto's password reset doesn't work very well. Drop me an email instead?

Will do. Thanks, Pat.

Literally a Presto change-o. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 24, 2019, 11:13:21 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 10, 2019, 05:05:42 PM
Quote from: jknezek on June 10, 2019, 04:42:35 PM
... and i think i remember them playing at a municipal stadium, but otherwise I was impressed.


Callaway Stadium is about 0.5 miles south of the campus.
I stopped at LaGrange two years ago to look around ... I couldn't find the football stadium either!  Now I know.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 26, 2019, 09:43:08 AM
HC had their usual scrimmage with Berry Saturday night. I'm cautiously optimistic as I thought we looked pretty solid for the most part. By the end of the night the offense was clicking pretty good and the D was making good stops. Of course we may have looked good because Berry didn't seem to have it together very well. I don't know if they were holding some people out but they look like they have some work to do over the next couple of weeks.
I'm excited to see what the offense can do with all the experience we have back on that side. We still need young guys to step up and fill in some depth on both sides of the ball. Here's the only negative of the night where a thunderstorm with lightning blew up near the end cutting the night short before the first year guys could have their session that usually finishes the night. Hopefully that's the only lightning we have to deal with this year.
Definitely got me ready for Sept. 7 to get here.
Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 26, 2019, 10:09:32 AM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on August 14, 2019, 09:54:10 AM
I have been an avid reader of the USA South board since the beginning.  I am going to get off the bench and get into the game.  Here are my uneducated guesses/observations heading into the 2019 season:

1. Averett should be considered the favorite heading into this season.  They are returning the most All-Conference performers (7 I believe) including the QB.  Coach Adams has done a tremendous job since taking the head spot.

2. Maryville and Huntingdon will follow the Cougars closely for the crown.  Both have established head coaches with a track record for success.  The Scots brings back 5 All-Conference players and should have one of the better defenses in the USAC.  The Hawks return an All-Conference QB and their offense will likely be the top in the league again.

3. Now we get to the log jam.  In alphabetical order Brevard, LaGrange, Methodist, and NCWC could compete with the top three on any given Saturday but will likely finish 4-7 in the standings but I have a hard time saying where.  Brevard brings back their offensive ROY in their QB.  LaGrange brings back their starting QB and some talent at WR.  Methodist brings back the offensive POY in their RB.  NCWC appears to have been hit hard by graduation but they typically have athletes in the cupboard who will be able to replace them.

4. Sorry but someone has to finish last and unless there is a major turnaround it will be the Pride of Greensboro.

There are a few teams with some interesting non-conference games on the slate.
Maryville will play #16 ranked (d3dootball.com) Berry and #20 ranked Centre
Huntingdon will travel to Wisconsin to play Oshkosh
Averett will play #24 ranked Randolph Macon, perennial conference top dog Hampden-Sydney, and Ferrum (who returns one of the best running backs in the nation in Mann

I believe that there is not much to gain from comparison scoring but it is still fun for fun sake
Brevard, Greensboro, and LaGrange will all play Apprentice
Methodist and NCWC will play Shenandoah
Huntingdon and Methodist both play Guilford
Huntingdon and LaGrange both play Birmingham Southern
Averett and Greensboro both play Ferrum
LaGrange and Marryville both play Berry

And as usual the USAC vs ODAC non-conference tournament will occur.  The ODAC has dominated the crossover in recent years.  Last year the ODAC took 5 out of 6 with 2 games canceled due to the hurricane.  If I did my research correct you have to go back to 2005 to find a winning record for the USAC with 6 out of 7 going in favor of the USAC.  Three of those teams are no longer in the conference (CNU, Ferrum, & Shenandoah) and 2 are in the ODAC now.  There are 10 opportunities this season with the highlight stated above being Averett vs Randolph-Macon.  This should be the two preseason favorites and last season in Ashland it was a 3 point game in the 4th quarter.  On paper the game looked fairly evenly matched. 

I hope everyone has great success in the non conference slate and a great 2019. 

GO MONARCHS!
Nicely done.  Welcome.  +1
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on August 26, 2019, 10:11:34 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 26, 2019, 09:43:08 AM
HC had their usual scrimmage with Berry Saturday night. I'm cautiously optimistic as I thought we looked pretty solid for the most part. By the end of the night the offense was clicking pretty good and the D was making good stops. Of course we may have looked good because Berry didn't seem to have it together very well. I don't know if they were holding some people out but they look like they have some work to do over the next couple of weeks.
I'm excited to see what the offense can do with all the experience we have back on that side. We still need young guys to step up and fill in some depth on both sides of the ball. Here's the only negative of the night where a thunderstorm with lightning blew up near the end cutting the night short before the first year guys could have their session that usually finishes the night. Hopefully that's the only lightning we have to deal with this year.
Definitely got me ready for Sept. 7 to get here.
Go Hawks!
Hey, Hawks88.  Plan to visit my cousin in Montgomery and see the Huntingdon/Guilford game.  Hope to see you there!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 26, 2019, 10:21:21 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 26, 2019, 09:43:08 AM
...Berry didn't seem to have it together very well. 

I hope you're right...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 26, 2019, 10:34:37 AM
Quote from: hasanova on August 26, 2019, 10:11:34 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 26, 2019, 09:43:08 AM
HC had their usual scrimmage with Berry Saturday night. I'm cautiously optimistic as I thought we looked pretty solid for the most part. By the end of the night the offense was clicking pretty good and the D was making good stops. Of course we may have looked good because Berry didn't seem to have it together very well. I don't know if they were holding some people out but they look like they have some work to do over the next couple of weeks.
I'm excited to see what the offense can do with all the experience we have back on that side. We still need young guys to step up and fill in some depth on both sides of the ball. Here's the only negative of the night where a thunderstorm with lightning blew up near the end cutting the night short before the first year guys could have their session that usually finishes the night. Hopefully that's the only lightning we have to deal with this year.
Definitely got me ready for Sept. 7 to get here.
Go Hawks!
Hey, Hawks88.  Plan to visit my cousin in Montgomery and see the Huntingdon/Guilford game.  Hope to see you there!

Looking forward to seeing you there!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 30, 2019, 02:53:46 PM
USA South Preseason poll released today.

2019 USA South Coaches Preseason Football Poll
Rank   Institution (1st Place Votes)   Pts.
1.   Averett (4)   46
2.   Maryville^ (3)   43
3.   Huntingdon (1)   38
4.   N.C. Wesleyan   30
5.   Methodist   25
6.   Brevard*   18
7.   LaGrange   17
8.   Greensboro   7
*Ineligible for NCAA Tournament (Div. III Reclassifying Member)
^Defending Champion
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on August 31, 2019, 11:23:17 AM
I hope I'm not the only scratching my head every year when I see the product LaGrange puts out on the field. One of 2 D3 teams in GA, and the other one is consistently good—3 SAA titles in a row (I think). They've had decent teams, but they should be a contender every year IMO.

I'm also waiting for NCWC to make a return. Their coach had success in NAIA and they seem to have good athletes. That's a little bit of a head scratcher, too.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on September 03, 2019, 04:02:49 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 26, 2019, 09:43:08 AM
HC had their usual scrimmage with Berry Saturday night. I'm cautiously optimistic as I thought we looked pretty solid for the most part. By the end of the night the offense was clicking pretty good and the D was making good stops. Of course we may have looked good because Berry didn't seem to have it together very well. I don't know if they were holding some people out but they look like they have some work to do over the next couple of weeks.
I'm excited to see what the offense can do with all the experience we have back on that side. We still need young guys to step up and fill in some depth on both sides of the ball. Here's the only negative of the night where a thunderstorm with lightning blew up near the end cutting the night short before the first year guys could have their session that usually finishes the night. Hopefully that's the only lightning we have to deal with this year.
Definitely got me ready for Sept. 7 to get here.
Go Hawks!


I was there as well.  I wish I had thought to check, it would have been nice to shake a hand and talk a little.  The Berry side was definitely wondering about some things as well.  But I do know they held out quite a some of the senior starters.  I think the big WR only got one series.  I think the coaches were working the 2nd string looking for depth and those that were going to step up.  But that's my speculation...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 04, 2019, 01:54:42 PM
Scots,

I could not agree more.  When LaGrange came into the conference in 2012 followed by Huntingdon the next season I was hopeful that would be a net upgrade over Shenandoah (last season 2011 and CNU (last season 2014).  Lagrange went 9-2 in their third season of existence and lost in the first round of the playoffs.  Matt Mumme took over partway through 2013 and the offenses were prolific with Connor Blair and Graham Craig at QB.  Mumme is now the OC at Nevada and I don't believe it is based on any success he had at LaGrange.  They have finished .500 twice since coming to the USAC.  Georgia high school's alone should produce enough talented players to win the conference year in and year out but they also boarder Alabama and are a 3-4 hour drive from the panhandle.  I would think with the head coach being a former UGA player and a local high school product that would carry some weight in recruiting.  He was the DC for 4 years prior to being promoted last season so it should not take that long to see if he is the answer or not.  On the roster this year 64 out of the 74 freshman are from Georgia but there are only 25 JR/SR listed so I would not expect a dramatic change from last seasons 3-7 record. 

NCWC I believe has raised their admission standards and cannot get in some of the same players they could in the 2000's.  Both schools suffer from the stadium off campus situations as do Greensboro and Averett.  Based on what NCWC returns this year and their schedule I believe they will likely finish a game or two better than last season.  I am not sure what Stetson is like but I think they will likely win their other 2 non-conference games.  They will have a tough time @ Averett and Huntingdon.  The two games the season hinges on in my opinion are the last of the season when the Scots come calling and 11/2 in Fayetteville for Methodist's homecoming game. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 04, 2019, 04:51:58 PM
Just checking the weather for Montgomery on Saturday and it's going to be a scorcher. Sunny with the high approaching 100. Too late to move it to a night game? ;) At least there's no thunderstorms in the forecast.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 05, 2019, 12:53:47 PM
Well I do a NFL pickum pool at work and usually get about a little more than half of the games right.  I hope to fare about the same with these.  Here are my thoughts for the USAC games this weekend:

Greensboro travels to Newport News and survives the rain to come back to NC 1-0
Averett makes the short trip from Danville to bring home a win against Hampden-Sydney on their hall-of-fame weekend (weather will likely play a role here as well)
NCWC beats the Wasps of Emory & Henry but I expect it to be a close game since Emory will be playing hard for their former OC who stepped down just prior to the season due to health concerns
Berry will spoil Maryville's home opener (I hope for the opposite result though)
Guilford will lose a lopsided game to Huntingdon which will leave a long 8+ hour bus ride back to Greensboro
Birmingham-Southern will come to LaGrange and outscore the Panthers with both teams lacking a little on D
Methodist will get an extra bye again this year

All told 4-2 on the weekend with the USAC going 3-0 against the ODAC.  The bonus game of the week happens tonight when Johns Hopkins is away at Randolph Macon.  I would expect to see a very physical game with the Blue Jays leaving victorious.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 05, 2019, 01:01:28 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on September 05, 2019, 12:53:47 PM
Well I do a NFL pickum pool at work and usually get about a little more than half of the games right.  I hope to fare about the same with these.  Here are my thoughts for the USAC games this weekend:

Greensboro travels to Newport News and survives the rain to come back to NC 1-0
Averett makes the short trip from Danville to bring home a win against Hampden-Sydney on their hall-of-fame weekend (weather will likely play a role here as well)
NCWC beats the Wasps of Emory & Henry but I expect it to be a close game since Emory will be playing hard for their former OC who stepped down just prior to the season due to health concerns
Berry will spoil Maryville's home opener (I hope for the opposite result though)
Guilford will lose a lopsided game to Huntingdon which will leave a long 8+ hour bus ride back to Greensboro
Birmingham-Southern will come to LaGrange and outscore the Panthers with both teams lacking a little on D
Methodist will get an extra bye again this year

All told 4-2 on the weekend with the USAC going 3-0 against the ODAC.  The bonus game of the week happens tonight when Johns Hopkins is away at Randolph Macon.  I would expect to see a very physical game with the Blue Jays leaving victorious.

I will be absolutely shocked if Greensboro, one of the worst DIII programs, wins at CNU. That would imply CNU's program has absolutely crapped the bed.

Modification due to a Brain fart. Yeah, they could beat Apprentice though...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on September 05, 2019, 01:05:41 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 05, 2019, 01:01:28 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on September 05, 2019, 12:53:47 PM
Well I do a NFL pickum pool at work and usually get about a little more than half of the games right.  I hope to fare about the same with these.  Here are my thoughts for the USAC games this weekend:

Greensboro travels to Newport News and survives the rain to come back to NC 1-0
Averett makes the short trip from Danville to bring home a win against Hampden-Sydney on their hall-of-fame weekend (weather will likely play a role here as well)
NCWC beats the Wasps of Emory & Henry but I expect it to be a close game since Emory will be playing hard for their former OC who stepped down just prior to the season due to health concerns
Berry will spoil Maryville's home opener (I hope for the opposite result though)
Guilford will lose a lopsided game to Huntingdon which will leave a long 8+ hour bus ride back to Greensboro
Birmingham-Southern will come to LaGrange and outscore the Panthers with both teams lacking a little on D
Methodist will get an extra bye again this year

All told 4-2 on the weekend with the USAC going 3-0 against the ODAC.  The bonus game of the week happens tonight when Johns Hopkins is away at Randolph Macon.  I would expect to see a very physical game with the Blue Jays leaving victorious.

I will be absolutely shocked if Greensboro, one of the worst DIII programs, wins at CNU. That would imply CNU's program has absolutely crapped the bed.

  I suspect he was referring to what we used to call Newport News Apprentice.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 05, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on September 05, 2019, 01:05:41 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 05, 2019, 01:01:28 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on September 05, 2019, 12:53:47 PM
Well I do a NFL pickum pool at work and usually get about a little more than half of the games right.  I hope to fare about the same with these.  Here are my thoughts for the USAC games this weekend:

Greensboro travels to Newport News and survives the rain to come back to NC 1-0
Averett makes the short trip from Danville to bring home a win against Hampden-Sydney on their hall-of-fame weekend (weather will likely play a role here as well)
NCWC beats the Wasps of Emory & Henry but I expect it to be a close game since Emory will be playing hard for their former OC who stepped down just prior to the season due to health concerns
Berry will spoil Maryville's home opener (I hope for the opposite result though)
Guilford will lose a lopsided game to Huntingdon which will leave a long 8+ hour bus ride back to Greensboro
Birmingham-Southern will come to LaGrange and outscore the Panthers with both teams lacking a little on D
Methodist will get an extra bye again this year

All told 4-2 on the weekend with the USAC going 3-0 against the ODAC.  The bonus game of the week happens tonight when Johns Hopkins is away at Randolph Macon.  I would expect to see a very physical game with the Blue Jays leaving victorious.

I will be absolutely shocked if Greensboro, one of the worst DIII programs, wins at CNU. That would imply CNU's program has absolutely crapped the bed.

  I suspect he was referring to what we used to call Newport News Apprentice.
Ha. My edit beat your correction by less than a minute! But I'll give you the +K anyway...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 05, 2019, 03:01:01 PM
Sorry for the confusion JK.  I said I was hoping to bat .500 on my picks and I think that game is likely a toss up but my conference homerism is showing
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 05, 2019, 03:31:50 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on September 05, 2019, 03:01:01 PM
Sorry for the confusion JK.  I said I was hoping to bat .500 on my picks and I think that game is likely a toss up but my conference homerism is showing

Traditionally the USAC has not fared well vs the ODAC, but I do think this slate favors them. I was surprised Guilford won in Montgomery 2 years ago. Sad the game was rained out last year. I wish I was able to get to the game this weekend in Montgomery again, but life is in the way. I suspect Huntingdon will win this one. As hot as it's going to be, Huntingdon's garbage visiting locker room is useless unless it's been redone in the last 2 years and having halftime on the buses just isn't very good for visiting teams. A very cheap advantage for early season games and bad weather.

Averett on paper is looking better than H-SC but Farmville is a tough place to play. I believe E&H will handle NCWC at home pretty easily. We will see. But I think it's likely the USAC goes 2-1 against the ODAC this weekend.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HSCTiger74 on September 05, 2019, 03:45:22 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 05, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on September 05, 2019, 01:05:41 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 05, 2019, 01:01:28 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on September 05, 2019, 12:53:47 PM
Well I do a NFL pickum pool at work and usually get about a little more than half of the games right.  I hope to fare about the same with these.  Here are my thoughts for the USAC games this weekend:

Greensboro travels to Newport News and survives the rain to come back to NC 1-0
Averett makes the short trip from Danville to bring home a win against Hampden-Sydney on their hall-of-fame weekend (weather will likely play a role here as well)
NCWC beats the Wasps of Emory & Henry but I expect it to be a close game since Emory will be playing hard for their former OC who stepped down just prior to the season due to health concerns
Berry will spoil Maryville's home opener (I hope for the opposite result though)
Guilford will lose a lopsided game to Huntingdon which will leave a long 8+ hour bus ride back to Greensboro
Birmingham-Southern will come to LaGrange and outscore the Panthers with both teams lacking a little on D
Methodist will get an extra bye again this year

All told 4-2 on the weekend with the USAC going 3-0 against the ODAC.  The bonus game of the week happens tonight when Johns Hopkins is away at Randolph Macon.  I would expect to see a very physical game with the Blue Jays leaving victorious.

I will be absolutely shocked if Greensboro, one of the worst DIII programs, wins at CNU. That would imply CNU's program has absolutely crapped the bed.

  I suspect he was referring to what we used to call Newport News Apprentice.
Ha. My edit beat your correction by less than a minute! But I'll give you the +K anyway...

   ;D Right back at ya.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 06, 2019, 10:01:18 AM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on September 05, 2019, 12:53:47 PM
Well I do a NFL pickum pool at work and usually get about a little more than half of the games right.  I hope to fare about the same with these.  Here are my thoughts for the USAC games this weekend:

Greensboro travels to Newport News and survives the rain to come back to NC 1-0
Averett makes the short trip from Danville to bring home a win against Hampden-Sydney on their hall-of-fame weekend (weather will likely play a role here as well)
NCWC beats the Wasps of Emory & Henry but I expect it to be a close game since Emory will be playing hard for their former OC who stepped down just prior to the season due to health concerns
Berry will spoil Maryville's home opener (I hope for the opposite result though)
Guilford will lose a lopsided game to Huntingdon which will leave a long 8+ hour bus ride back to Greensboro
Birmingham-Southern will come to LaGrange and outscore the Panthers with both teams lacking a little on D
Methodist will get an extra bye again this year

All told 4-2 on the weekend with the USAC going 3-0 against the ODAC.  The bonus game of the week happens tonight when Johns Hopkins is away at Randolph Macon.  I would expect to see a very physical game with the Blue Jays leaving victorious.

Here's my thoughts on Week 1.

NNA over Greensboro. For as good as the JHU/Macon game was last night, expect the opposite in this game.

Averett over HSC (but rooting for the Tigers). Going to this one with a buddy of mine. Let see if the hype on Averett is well-founded.

NCWC over E&H. I heard E&H pulled the Maryville series again because they were tired of having a losing streak against my boys. Whether that's true or not, I don't know. Either way, I find it hard to root for E&H in any situation.

Huntingdon over Guilford. Long bus ride after a 100 degree game. Not too pleasant. Been there, done that. Both with the heat and Huntingdon whipping us.

BSC over LaGrange. The annual MC/BSC scrimmage was cancelled this year so I don't know what to think of BSC, but I'd assume they'd be better than LC early in the year.

Dorian over Methodist. I feel bad for the eastern Carolina kids (MU, NCWC, etc.) over the last few years and missing games. You'd think they'd have contingency plans in place for early season games.


and finally, Berry vs. Maryville. 2:00 pm Honaker Field at Lloyd L. Thornton Stadium.
You can call me many things, but an irrational homer is not one of them.

Berry wins. Again.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 06, 2019, 10:26:13 AM
Now they're including the chance of isolated t-storms.  :-\ At least it's only going to be 99 instead of 100.  ::)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 06, 2019, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 06, 2019, 10:26:13 AM
Now they're including the chance of isolated t-storms.  :-\ At least it's only going to be 99 instead of 100.  ::)

Has Huntingdon spent a thousand dollars and put some ventless AC in the visiting locker rooms yet or are they still cheaping out for a sad advantage? Knowing what I know of that facility, I would refuse to schedule an OOC at Huntingdon in the first 2 months of the season...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 06, 2019, 11:05:40 AM
We played at Huntingdon Week 1 of my senior year and they put partitions up in the weight room to serve as the locker room. I've been in far worse facilities. At least we didn't have a MRSA scare after the game...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 06, 2019, 11:32:09 AM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 06, 2019, 11:05:40 AM
We played at Huntingdon Week 1 of my senior year and they put partitions up in the weight room to serve as the locker room. I've been in far worse facilities. At least we didn't have a MRSA scare after the game...

Well... there is always that. I just remember Wesley finding the sole shady tree on the visitor sideline to do their halftime because it was so hot in the locker room and Guilford just giving up and doing it on the buses, offense on one, defense on the other, because the locker room was so hot. It just seems bush league to me.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 06, 2019, 01:54:54 PM
From my experience there were very few teams in the area with even adequate locker room situations when it came to halftime.
Methodist- Visitors dressed in the basketball locker rooms in the gym above the stadium.  The walk wasn't too bad but not a great space for meeting
Averett- Visitors dressed in the locker rooms in the gym which was a good walk across the parking lot from the stadium (this may have changes since I know there were upgrades recently)
Huntingdon- JK already hit the high notes
Maryville- Visitors had a few classrooms for meetings and usually 2 locker rooms in the gym which was a short walk from the stadium.  The only drawback was you had to walk through their fans who could be brutal (that never bothered me personally but as it happens there were a few bad eggs that said inappropriate things to players)
LaGrange- Locker room was under the home bleachers
Greensboro- Grimsley High School has the locker room right next to the field which is a little small for a college team but convenient
Guilford- I have dressed in the old pool, the old gym, and lastly what I believe was the old locker room for the football team.  Again it is a little ways from the field
NCWC- High School stadium.  Last few times we had the gym and a few locker rooms near there.  It was a short walk from the field
Ferrum- This was at one time the longest walk ever.  It was past the baseball field, football field house, a parking lot, across the road, and down near the weight room in the bottom of the gym.  I am also unsure how the new facilities have changed this situation
E&H- Dressed in the pool area before and also a few locker rooms in what I believe is the gym behind the visitors side of the field.  Both options were relatively close to the field
Shenandoah- Their locker room is directly behind one of the end zones.  Before it was built the visitors locker room was down the road a good clip but they did set up an event tent for half time beside the visitors stands
CNU- Top notch locker rooms a short walk from the stadium

All told there were not very many good locations for halftime.  I remember setting up shop under many a shade tree as far away from the fans as we could get but not typically making it back to the locker rooms for halftime.  One of the things I always thought was an issue was the fact that the officials started the halftime clock prior to the teams leaving the field.  Those away games where we had a walk we have to make the decision if it was worth walking for 5 minutes to sit for 8 before gathering up for the 5 minute walk back to the field.  One away trip I will never forget was Chowan.  I know that the facilities have to have upgraded since the early 2000's but back then the away locker room was one to remember.  The restroom had two toilets that sat in the middle of the room for some reason with no partitions, a few urinals, and sinks along one wall .  That was always a "team building" away trip due to the conditions. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 06, 2019, 02:28:57 PM
Best tailgate location in the USAC?
I'm biased, but MC is probably at the top of the list. Right there at the gate. 15 yards from the fence to the goal post. Straight forward view to the scoreboard (that needs to be replaced). Not the biggest, but the best. ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 06, 2019, 02:39:32 PM
Scots I would say the only 2 that have a respectable tailgate are you guys and Huntingdon.  I have seen Averett and Methodist be ok at times.  I cannot say about Brevard as I have never been there or LaGrange since I was only there once.  Greensboro and NCWC have tried but it is tough when you are using the local high schools facilities.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 06, 2019, 02:58:05 PM
As much as I gave Huntingdon crap for their visiting locker room situation, I'll give them credit for their tailgating. I've been to a few good ones there. Sad to be missing this weekend when Guilford visits. I thought they sold some of the land they had used for tailgating, or maybe for parking, so I wonder if it's the same as I remember. But those folks were dedicated, put up some good food, and welcomed all comers. The spot had some good shade, actually able to tailgate where you parked, and it was close enough to the field to wander back at halftime and pig out some more.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 06, 2019, 03:01:03 PM
Haven't been to Brevard yet either, but they play at the local high school. Wouldn't get my hopes up.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 06, 2019, 03:04:42 PM
But while on the subject of tailgating, 2 things:

1. People literally show up on Wednesday afternoons during practice to stake tents in the ground and claim their area. That's dedication.

2. I don't know why the athletics department does it, but every year at Homecoming there is a volleyball game and soccer game on campus AT THE SAME TIME AS THE FOOTBALL GAME. The campus is already packed. Why spread fans out? Have them come to the tailgate and into the stadium and fill it to the brim. It's always irked me, especially this year for the bicentennial.  >:(
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 06, 2019, 03:18:12 PM
The local fan support for Maryville was always impressive.  It was never just the student body.  I believe the same can be said for Huntingdon.  Fayetteville is a 2 college town but I don't believe that Fayetteville State has an unbelievable tailgate either.  The issue I always believed partly was due to the transient nature of a military town.  Averett  and LaGrange could be a big draws since I am not sure what other options you would have in Danville or LaGrange for a live sporting event on a Saturday.  Both schools are well established in their communities but the football teams are newer (I believe Averett is closing in on 20 seasons soon).
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 06, 2019, 03:21:24 PM
Sorry I have not figured out how to edit yet.  This is Averett's 20th season
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MUC57 on September 06, 2019, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 06, 2019, 03:04:42 PM
But while on the subject of tailgating, 2 things:

1. People literally show up on Wednesday afternoons during practice to stake tents in the ground and claim their area. That's dedication.

2. I don't know why the athletics department does it, but every year at Homecoming there is a volleyball game and soccer game on campus AT THE SAME TIME AS THE FOOTBALL GAME. The campus is already packed. Why spread fans out? Have them come to the tailgate and into the stadium and fill it to the brim. It's always irked me, especially this year for the bicentennial.  >:(

Scots13

On your number 2, Mount Union does that also. Drives me crazy too!   ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on September 06, 2019, 08:55:46 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on September 06, 2019, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 06, 2019, 03:04:42 PM
But while on the subject of tailgating, 2 things:

1. People literally show up on Wednesday afternoons during practice to stake tents in the ground and claim their area. That's dedication.

2. I don't know why the athletics department does it, but every year at Homecoming there is a volleyball game and soccer game on campus AT THE SAME TIME AS THE FOOTBALL GAME. The campus is already packed. Why spread fans out? Have them come to the tailgate and into the stadium and fill it to the brim. It's always irked me, especially this year for the bicentennial.  >:(

Scots13

On your number 2, Mount Union does that also. Drives me crazy too!   ;D

We do the same, I always wondered that as both a player and fan. I couldn't support other clubs because of the game or other clubs couldn't support us. Then as aforementioned, fans are spread out, which definitely kills what the stadium could be.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Mr. Ypsi on September 06, 2019, 09:11:33 PM
Quote from: MANDGSU on September 06, 2019, 08:55:46 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on September 06, 2019, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 06, 2019, 03:04:42 PM
But while on the subject of tailgating, 2 things:

1. People literally show up on Wednesday afternoons during practice to stake tents in the ground and claim their area. That's dedication.

2. I don't know why the athletics department does it, but every year at Homecoming there is a volleyball game and soccer game on campus AT THE SAME TIME AS THE FOOTBALL GAME. The campus is already packed. Why spread fans out? Have them come to the tailgate and into the stadium and fill it to the brim. It's always irked me, especially this year for the bicentennial.  >:(

Scots13

On your number 2, Mount Union does that also. Drives me crazy too!   ;D

We do the same, I always wondered that as both a player and fan. I couldn't support other clubs because of the game or other clubs couldn't support us. Then as aforementioned, fans are spread out, which definitely kills what the stadium could be.

IWU does (or at least did - don't know today) the same also.  Worked out well for me in 2010.  The football game was a bore (we were up 28-0 at the half, and it could have been worse), so I just wandered over to the soccer pitch, where nationally-ranked IWU (women) were hosting also ranked Carthage - a MUCH better game! ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 06, 2019, 10:13:20 PM
Quote from: jknezek on September 06, 2019, 02:58:05 PM
As much as I gave Huntingdon crap for their visiting locker room situation, I'll give them credit for their tailgating. I've been to a few good ones there. Sad to be missing this weekend when Guilford visits. I thought they sold some of the land they had used for tailgating, or maybe for parking, so I wonder if it's the same as I remember. But those folks were dedicated, put up some good food, and welcomed all comers. The spot had some good shade, actually able to tailgate where you parked, and it was close enough to the field to wander back at halftime and pig out some more.
The western end of the property along Boultier St was sold a few years ago that included about a third of the front lawn area. The rear part had an apartment building built several years ago and now the front part on Fairview has some apartments being built but the main part of the lawn nearer the stadium is still used. More and more people are setting up at the north end of the football field but I still like the lawn area better.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Scots13 on September 07, 2019, 08:27:41 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 06, 2019, 09:11:33 PM
Quote from: MANDGSU on September 06, 2019, 08:55:46 PM
Quote from: MUC57 on September 06, 2019, 05:37:54 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on September 06, 2019, 03:04:42 PM
But while on the subject of tailgating, 2 things:

1. People literally show up on Wednesday afternoons during practice to stake tents in the ground and claim their area. That's dedication.

2. I don't know why the athletics department does it, but every year at Homecoming there is a volleyball game and soccer game on campus AT THE SAME TIME AS THE FOOTBALL GAME. The campus is already packed. Why spread fans out? Have them come to the tailgate and into the stadium and fill it to the brim. It's always irked me, especially this year for the bicentennial.  >:(

Scots13

On your number 2, Mount Union does that also. Drives me crazy too!   ;D

We do the same, I always wondered that as both a player and fan. I couldn't support other clubs because of the game or other clubs couldn't support us. Then as aforementioned, fans are spread out, which definitely kills what the stadium could be.

IWU does (or at least did - don't know today) the same also.  Worked out well for me in 2010.  The football game was a bore (we were up 28-0 at the half, and it could have been worse), so I just wandered over to the soccer pitch, where nationally-ranked IWU (women) were hosting also ranked Carthage - a MUCH better game! ;D

It's at minimum a couple hundred less people at the game. It's a decent chunk of the student- athlete pool that never experienced a Homecoming game atmosphere. Even when we were bad, tons of people showed up for homecoming. Special time for a special place, but I guess we'd all say that about our alma maters.  8-)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 07, 2019, 03:21:40 PM
Both Huntingdon and Guilford's QBs look really good but there also look to be coverage breakdowns since the WRs are really open at times.  The online feed is solid as usual.

I don't understand why NCWC is chasing points this early. I know it says the first XP was blocked and unless the kicker or blocking is that bad I don't know why you don't wait till the 4th to go for 2
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 07, 2019, 03:26:11 PM
First to 70 wins in Montgomery. And clearly I don't know what I'm talking about since NCWC had another XP blocked. Keep going for 2 fellas
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 07, 2019, 04:26:09 PM
The Pride lose. I am going to go ahead and give Huntingdon win since they are up by 32 with 3 minuets left in the third. NCWC and Averett get the Ws today as well. USA 3 ODAC 0. Maybe this is the year.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 09, 2019, 09:10:19 AM
Finally getting around to posting on the game. With 69 points and 592 yards of offense I guess there's not really anything to complain about the offensive side of the ball. I know GC is known for not playing great defense but it was nice to see us execute so well. The defense definitely has some issues to iron out though they did settle in and play better in the second half. There were issues with kick coverage on the special teams, especially allowing the punt return TD, but that should be fixable. We seemed to handle the heat pretty well as I didn't see much cramping on our side.

On to Birmingham this week. Hopefully we can execute as well on offense and get the win.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 09, 2019, 12:03:53 PM
My week one predictions were alright.  The Greensboro loss does not shock me at all but I was a little surprised by the LaGrange win.  Especially since it appeared offensively they relied more on their ground game than they have in the past.  So for week 2 I see it like this:

NCWC wins at home against Shenandoah.  Week ones production was dominated by returning starters and upperclassmen headlined by the QB Totten
Ferrum beats Greensboro badly and Mann may have 300 yards rushing if he plays long enough
Brevard has enough offense to beat Apprentice
Berry stops LaGrange's win streak at one
Huntingdon continues their offensive output and beats Birmingham-Southern.  It will be interesting to see if there is any improvement in Huntingdon's D
Centre beats Maryville in a low scoring contest but this wouldn't surprise me to see the Scots pull an upset but it would likely need to include a special team or defensive TD

The game of the week (in both the ODAC and USAC) where Randolph-Macon travels to Averett.  I will hopefully be able to watch some of this one online.  Averett appeared to struggle offensively and defensively last week against HSU but their special teams stepped up big.  I think RMC defense may be really good.  In a very close game I think Averett's special teams will be the key and it will not have to be in the form of a return.  Averett's SR K/P Westberry will play a big role in field position.  I can't call a final score but I can't really see this one getting out of the 20's.

Finally for my game of the week (since I will be in attendance) Methodist vs Guilford.  Guilford kept up punch for punch with Huntingdon in the first half.  The score in the second half was lopsided but I believe it was a result of some bad breaks (2 fumbles by guilford and a blocked kick led to 21 Hawk's points) .  This annual contest between the Quakers and the Monarchs has been going on for this the 31st season in a row (since MU started a program in 1989).  With Guilford not holding the Soup Bowl against Greensboro I would imagine that this is the longest running non-conference game for any team in both conferences.  Unfortunately this is a contest that has favored the Quakers 19 wins against 11 losses.  The last 5 games have not been very close either with Guilford's average margin of victory being 30 points.  I expect a lot of points in Fayetteville this weekend.  Guilford will probably put up points and yards through the air with Manley back after a good SO season.  I am assuming Guilford's SR WR Houston and JR LB Smith must have been injured and unable to play in Alabama on Saturday.  Both players were All-ODAC performers last season and are on the roster but did not show up on the box score or starter list last week.  As far as the Monarchs go I believe that the offense will also but up big numbers but likely on the ground with SR RBs Howard and Baker.  Hopefully the SR QB who has 2 years of starting experience and 3 WRs with experience will be able to provide a spark and some big plays through the air.  The OL will be replacing 2 all-conference players but return I believe 4 with significant time last season rushing for an average of 230 YPG.  The defense returns players in the second and third levels but I believe only one player up front in SR DL Bagley.  I heard rumors that there are some improvements on that side of the ball.  I am probably relying on my head a little more than my heart on this pick but I am all in on a Methodist win this Saturday.

Week one USAC 3 ODAC 0
Week two USAC 3 ODAC 1 hopefully
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 09, 2019, 12:11:17 PM
Sorry:
Relying on my heart more than my head
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Air Raid on September 10, 2019, 02:21:42 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on September 09, 2019, 12:03:53 PM
My week one predictions were alright.  The Greensboro loss does not shock me at all but I was a little surprised by the LaGrange win.  Especially since it appeared offensively they relied more on their ground game than they have in the past.  So for week 2 I see it like this:

NCWC wins at home against Shenandoah.  Week ones production was dominated by returning starters and upperclassmen headlined by the QB Totten
Ferrum beats Greensboro badly and Mann may have 300 yards rushing if he plays long enough
Brevard has enough offense to beat Apprentice
Berry stops LaGrange's win streak at one
Huntingdon continues their offensive output and beats Birmingham-Southern.  It will be interesting to see if there is any improvement in Huntingdon's D
Centre beats Maryville in a low scoring contest but this wouldn't surprise me to see the Scots pull an upset but it would likely need to include a special team or defensive TD

The game of the week (in both the ODAC and USAC) where Randolph-Macon travels to Averett.  I will hopefully be able to watch some of this one online.  Averett appeared to struggle offensively and defensively last week against HSU but their special teams stepped up big.  I think RMC defense may be really good.  In a very close game I think Averett's special teams will be the key and it will not have to be in the form of a return.  Averett's SR K/P Westberry will play a big role in field position.  I can't call a final score but I can't really see this one getting out of the 20's.

Finally for my game of the week (since I will be in attendance) Methodist vs Guilford.  Guilford kept up punch for punch with Huntingdon in the first half.  The score in the second half was lopsided but I believe it was a result of some bad breaks (2 fumbles by guilford and a blocked kick led to 21 Hawk's points) .  This annual contest between the Quakers and the Monarchs has been going on for this the 31st season in a row (since MU started a program in 1989).  With Guilford not holding the Soup Bowl against Greensboro I would imagine that this is the longest running non-conference game for any team in both conferences.  Unfortunately this is a contest that has favored the Quakers 19 wins against 11 losses.  The last 5 games have not been very close either with Guilford's average margin of victory being 30 points.  I expect a lot of points in Fayetteville this weekend.  Guilford will probably put up points and yards through the air with Manley back after a good SO season.  I am assuming Guilford's SR WR Houston and JR LB Smith must have been injured and unable to play in Alabama on Saturday.  Both players were All-ODAC performers last season and are on the roster but did not show up on the box score or starter list last week.  As far as the Monarchs go I believe that the offense will also but up big numbers but likely on the ground with SR RBs Howard and Baker.  Hopefully the SR QB who has 2 years of starting experience and 3 WRs with experience will be able to provide a spark and some big plays through the air.  The OL will be replacing 2 all-conference players but return I believe 4 with significant time last season rushing for an average of 230 YPG.  The defense returns players in the second and third levels but I believe only one player up front in SR DL Bagley.  I heard rumors that there are some improvements on that side of the ball.  I am probably relying on my head a little more than my heart on this pick but I am all in on a Methodist win this Saturday.

Week one USAC 3 ODAC 0
Week two USAC 3 ODAC 1 hopefully
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Well thought out, and I look forward to reading your posts as the season continues.  Good luck with your picks this week.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 10, 2019, 08:33:37 PM
Averett places both the K/P and the returner on the D3 team of the week.  I looked back and since Coach Adams has been at the school the special teams have been probably the best in the conference.  They have gotten progressively better from an individual standpoint at first to more team results the last couple years.

2014- P 2nd team all conference
2015-  RET 2nd team all conference
2016- All Region/1st team all conference RET
2016- Led the conference in KR yards
2017- All American/All Region/1st team all conference K, 1st team all conference P, and both the 1st & 2nd team RET
2017- Led the conference in PR yards, FG %, and kick off yardage
2018- All Region/1st team all conference RET, 1st team all conference P, and 2nd team all conference K
2018- Led the conference in KR yards, Punt average, and kickoff yardage

With the 2 players receiving the weekly honers above that makes 8 total.  I wonder what the reason or secret is?  Coach Al Smith is listed as the specialists coach on the website is he the reason?  Is it a specific area that they focus on in recruiting that others in the conference do not?  It's silly to say that other teams don't work on special teams but whatever these guys are doing it appears to be working.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on September 11, 2019, 01:38:12 PM
Passing this along, I saw Maryville's Adam Diggs on the 2019 Allstate AFCA Good Works nominee list.

https://www.afca.com/inspiring-acts-of-kindness-land-college-football-players-on-2019-allstate-afca-good-works-team-nominee-list/

Congratulations.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 14, 2019, 09:55:49 AM
As a coach of mine used to say back in the day..... Game day, game day, best day of the week, great day to be alive, great day to be a Monarch! Wooo!! The entire phrase is best used in a yelling fashion and the wooo much like the great Rick Flair.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 14, 2019, 02:36:10 PM
19-7 Guilford at half. Turnovers and penalties are killing the Monarchs
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 14, 2019, 05:00:46 PM
Well I couldn't stay and watch the 4th since the little one was getting too hot to stand it. All in all a poorly executed game on both sides. Both defenses played much better than I expected but I believe part of that was due to both offenses playing bad. 22 penalties to go along with 9 turnovers for both teams. Methodist threw 5 picks between 2 QBs. A lot of Guilford's penalties seemed to be on special teams and cost the Quakers the hidden yards that never show up in the box score. The one that broke my heart was a hold on Methodist that brought back about an 80 yard TD right before half. This was a game that someone had to win and at the end of the day and the Quakers made enough plays. I wish them luck on the rest of their season. Hopefully everyone comes out of the game healthy and as my coach used to say after any game.... You have 24 hours to celebrate a win or mourn a loss. After that it is time to go back to work. On to Catholic.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 14, 2019, 08:41:19 PM
All I can say is WOW. Averett loses a heartbreaker to RMC. Up 18 going into the 4th. RMC RB is the man.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 14, 2019, 10:40:45 PM
We just had a good old fashioned trip behind the woodshed.  That's about it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 14, 2019, 11:00:11 PM
So the results are in from week two.  All I can say is I don't know who is good and who is bad (with the exception of Greensboro being bad).  To recap the first two weeks:
Averett beats Hampden-Sydney in week one (HSU beats CNU in week 2) and then loses a heart breaker to RMC in week two(who lost a close one to Johns Hopkins who lost a close one.  Johns Hopkins loses in week 2 to Susquehanna)
Huntingdon beats Guilford in week one (Guilford wins a close game against Methodist in week 2) and then gets beat handily to Birmingham-Southern in week 2 (Birmingham lost to LaGrange in week 1)
Marryville lost to a ranked Berry and a ranked Centre
LaGrange beat Birmingham-Southern in week one (Birmingham beat Huntingdon in week 1) and then lost to Berry in week 2
NCWC beat Emory & Henry in week 1 in overtime and then lost to Shenandoah in week 2 (5 INT clearly did not help)
Methodist lost to Guilford (Guilford lost to Huntingdon in week 1)
Greensboro lost both games
Brevard's only game was called due to weather in the 3rd quarter

So with these results in the book all I can surmise is this........ 
I still believe that Averett is the best team in the conference.  They fell apart in the 4th quarter against RMC and that is concerning I believe. 
Maryville played and lost to 2 very good teamsand I believe in their D and rushing O but I don't think they can throw the ball
Huntingdon looked great against the Quakers (who will likely be a middle of the road ODAC team) and then loses badly to Birmingham
LaGrange can beat Birmingham but can't continue the trend against Berry
NCWC can beat one ODAC foe and then throws 5 picks to lose to another ODAC opponent

Averett is good.  I am unsure about every other team with the  only exception of Greensboro who I believe is bad.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 16, 2019, 01:24:22 PM
My predictions were a bit off to say it nicely in week 2.  I was 3 and 4 on the week with one no decision since the Brevard game was canceled due to weather.  Also the USAC vs ODAC non conference record is in jeopardy of not going in the USAC favor yet again.  At this time the ODAC is leading 4 wins to 3 losses with only one game remaining (I thought there were 10 before the season since I completely forgot that Catholic is not in the ODAC anymore and the MU vs SU game was canceled).  All of the hopes ride on Averett against Ferrum this weekend and we can tie the season baring a playoff match up.  There are multiple teams with byes on the schedule.  This week:

Huntingdon takes a 6 hour flight north to play Oshkosh and loses but I am hoping for a good showing
Brevard loses at home against CNU and I believe the Captains will be angry due to last weekends results.
Maryville plays a third 2018 playoff team this weekend when Hanover comes to town.  I am hopeful for the Scots but again I believe the lack of a downfield passing offense will be the downfall
Methodist cleans up some of the mistakes that cost them badly in their first game and beats Catholic.  Howard may rush for 200 yards.  Hopefully whichever QB plays the turnovers are eliminated.

Averett struggled to stop RMC's Fredrick running the ball last week and will have similar issues against Ferrum's Mann.  We cannot tell anything about Ferrum's defense since they played Greensboro last week.  Again I point to Averett's special teams as potentially the key to the game.  In 2 weeks Tapscott returned 2 kickoffs for TDs.  It would be hard for me to believe that anyone kicks to him for the remainder of the year but I am sure that is easier said than done. 

A note on Averett's Tapscott.  He was a HS senior in VA in 2012 and then went to Wyoming to play.  He was rated a 3 star prospect according to ESPN and had offers from Boston College and Ohio to go along with the one from Wyoming.  He was red-shirted in 2013 and per the AU website played in 4 games in 2014 followed by 8 games in 2015.  His first season at Averett was last year as a RS-JR where he had a whopping 84 AP yards and 1 tackle in 5 games.  Through 2 games this year he has 294 AP yards and 2 TDs.  He is literally a man (24 or 25 yrs old) playing with younger men.  I saw online that he made the decision to transfer after the completion of the 2015 season at Wyoming.  I'm not sure if he transferred to another school prior to Averett but with no real football from Fall of 2015 until the fall of 2018 I am not surprised by last seasons lack of production. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 16, 2019, 03:01:20 PM
As for Tapscott, he must not have been enrolled in a college the whole time.

This comes straight from the NCAA eligibility rules: Division II 10-semester/15-quarter clock: If you play at a Division II or III school, you have the first 10 semesters or 15 quarters in which you are enrolled as a full-time student to complete your four seasons of competition. You use a semester or quarter any time you attend class as a fulltime student or are enrolled part-time and compete for the school. You do not use a term if you only attend part-time with no competition or are not enrolled for a term.

So if he started in 2013 and was enrolled in 2013, 2014 and part of 2015 and played he has used up at least 5 or 6 semesters. He would have used 2 more last season, so that's 7 or 8 down. He's obviously playing now, so he must not have used 2 or 3 semesters in 2016 or 2017. Now he could have been going somewhere part time and not playing football, but if he was in school full time, or in part time and playing, he'd be out of semesters by now.

So it's likely he had a pretty good break before enrolling at Averett. Kudos to him for continuing his education. And I hope he graduates and has a great career in something. My wife is in her late 30s and is finishing her long delayed degree over the next year. It's not easy to go back after a couple years and I have a lot of respect for him for getting back after it.
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 16, 2019, 04:03:41 PM
Congrats to Methodist Safety Nate Jones for DPOTW and DL Andrew Bradshaw for DROTW.  Jones had 12 total tackles, 2 picks, and a half a sack.  Bradshaw had 7 total tackles, 3 TFL, and half a sack. 
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 19, 2019, 02:28:21 PM
Well it appears as if the Methodist and Shenandoah game is already rescheduled and on the books for 11/23.  That is from d3football site on both teams schedule page as well as Shenandoah's athletic website.  With numerous players from Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina this will likely be the coldest game some of the players have ever experienced.  That will probably be to early for any frozen precipitation but not unheard of.  I remember way back in 2002 on November 16th when there was a game played there between the Monarchs and the Hornets.  It switched between rain, freezing rain, and occasional flurries for most of the game.  The field was grass then and the surface was in bad shape.  Both teams were able to run the ball a little since neither defense could get any footing.  I believe there is field turf now at Shentel Stadium so the field will not be an issue.  I also remember the last away game at game Methodist played at Shenandoah was a 7 PM kickoff and the trip back to Fayetteville was a brutal 6 hour trip and we arrived back about 4 AM.  Thankfully cooler heads have prevailed and this game will kick at noon.  But hopefully for both or one team the game cannot be played due to an invitation to the playoffs.
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Post by: Scots13 on September 20, 2019, 07:55:59 AM
CNU tried to schedule a game with MC at 7 pm once. The suggestion did not go over well. 8+ hour bus rides tend to relegate kickoffs to between 12-2.
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 21, 2019, 11:06:19 AM
Game day, game day, best day of the week, great day to be alive, great day to be a Monarch!
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 21, 2019, 03:37:46 PM
Methodist is going to come away with a win but it didn't look pretty.
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 21, 2019, 09:13:37 PM
Methodist starting QB doesn’t play today. The backup is a RS FR transfer from a D2 plays. Clearly he has a good arm. I hope the SR QB is ok. I do see promise in the new guy.
I know Tapscott didn’t have a KR TD but he did have a 76 yarder. Again I don’t think I would give him a chance to do that.
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 22, 2019, 08:14:30 AM
One more week of non-conference games. Averett, Huntingdon, Maryville, and Methodist are on byes. Averett finishes 2-1, Huntingdon 1-2, Maryville 0-3 (but played the best schedule by far), and Methodist finished 1-1.
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 23, 2019, 09:07:00 AM
If Greensboro doesn't win at Gallaudet this weekend then they are likely staring down the barrel of 0-10.  I don't believe they will be able to get it done on the road.
Brevard beat Allen badly last season.  After last weeks win against CNU I feel like the Tornados should make it 2-0 on the season.
LaGrange wins at Apprentice.
NCWC loses against Stetson in Florida.  8+ hour road game against a Pioneer League team.  Hopefully there is some monetary compensation for that game.

Last week 4 and 1 record with the Brevard win being the only miss.  Conference play starts in October.
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 01, 2019, 12:57:42 PM
I believe at this point no USAC team has the resume to get an at large bid to the tournament so the AQ is the only chance.  Everyone gets to reset their records to 0-0 and start conference play Saturday.  Here is what we have.

NCWC travels to LaGrange.  I think that LaGrange should have enough defense to prevail here especially if NCWC keeps turning the ball over
Averett goes to Greensboro and wins big against the Pride.
Methodist goes to Alabama to play Huntingdon.  If Methodist defense plays well and the penalties are limited I think they can win.  My big concern is the size of Huntingdon's OL vs the interior DL of the Monarchs.  Given the fact that I don't think that changed much in the bye week I will pick the Hawks in a close one but would be happy if I was wrong.
Marryville plays at Brevard.  This is the hardest game to pick this week in my opinion.  We have the only undefeated team going against the only team without a win.  Maryville played likely the 3 best D3 teams any one in the conference played thus far (Oshkosh maybe the exception) and were only close with Centre.  Brevard was down at halftime of a game that was ultimately canceled against against Newport News.  They then beat CNU who looks to be having a down year.  They then beat NAIA Allen University.  Going into the season on paper Maryville was the better team and the obvious pick here but.... I am going to say that the SO QB for Brevard Cole has just enough at home to claim victory
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 05, 2019, 02:33:38 PM
Weather delay in Alabama
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 05, 2019, 03:10:37 PM
Back to it in Alabama. Methodist gets a fumble recovery as the Hawks are driving. They go 3 & out. Punt block. One play TD drive Huntingdon. Mistakes, mistakes, mistakes
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Post by: Hawks88 on October 05, 2019, 03:41:40 PM
Weather delay #2.
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Post by: DGPugh on October 05, 2019, 06:17:58 PM
Hawks, I watched it on the computer. The Boy and his bride went down I told him to say hello if he saw you. He is down to 210. Chas is  nearly her size when she played softball.
I pray yall are well, keep the faith
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Post by: Hawks88 on October 05, 2019, 08:56:44 PM
Didn't see them, DG. We stopped by the football alumni tent during the first weather delay but didn't see them. When the second weather delay got pretty nasty a lot of people left so I wonder if they were among those? It was a fun game besides the delays. The defense seemed much improved over the last couple of games so hopefully they can keep that up going forward. Big one with Murvul next week.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 05, 2019, 08:58:56 PM
Old fashioned butt whipping in Alabama today for the Monarchs. Unfortunately the running game for the Hawks was far too much. Averett did what they were supposed to do. LaGrange pulled to within a TD of NCWC midway through the fourth then allowed 10 unanswered. Brevard won today in large part due to their defense/special teams who scored on a fumble recovery and had a safety.
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Post by: DGPugh on October 05, 2019, 09:17:58 PM
Hawks
He left before the game
He had to run the ' Mogadishu Mile' race at Columbus this afternoon. One of his former SWATeam members ran the real one, so several of them are running it in full gear.

He said he got to see a bunch of team mates and coaches. :)

Id like to see us win the rest of em, but as long as the Hawks beat LaGrange and Murr vul (  :) ) it might be an ok season  ;D
I actually like murvul... lagrange... not so much :)
I pray yall are well
keep the faith my friend
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 07, 2019, 11:47:57 AM
3 and 1 last week on the picks.  My only miss was NCWC winning on the road at LaGrange overcoming 3 turnovers (13 total on the season).  Second week of conference play.

NCWC beats the Pride of Greensboro. 
Huntingdon beats Marryville at home.  I am very curious to see if Maryville's defense can bottle up the Hawks offense.  My gut says no.
LaGrange travels to Danville to play Averett.  I think that this is a game for a while but I believe Averett should win by double digits.
Lastly the Monarchs of Methodist vs the Tornados of Brevard.  I can't tell what to make of Brevard.  They beat winless CNU and Maryville both at home.  They went on the road to beat NAIA Allen University.  Methodist has not played close to a clean game all season.  They have thrown 6 picks, lost 2 fumbles, had 2 punts blocked, giving up 14 yards per on punt returns, and they are averaging 9 penalties for about 75 yards per game.  Methodist only win was at home against a winless Catholic team.  The Guilford loss was close but that is Guilford's only win of the year so far.  The Huntingdon game got away from the Monarchs in Alabama but I would imagine that the two weather delays hurt the road team a little more than the home team.  Huntingdon was certainly the better team on Saturday but that doesn't help.  Last season Methodist lost by 5 at Brevard.  The Monarchs ran all over the Tornados but the Tornados aired it out against the Monarchs.  I think Methodist's pass defense is better but so is Brevard's run defense.  I should pick the Tornados to win but I have a feeling that a home game is just what the doctor ordered for the Monarchs.  This would be their first against Brevard as well.
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 12, 2019, 08:34:13 AM
Game day, game day, best day of the week, great day to be a Monarch! Woooooo!! Low 80's in Fayetteville with low humidity.
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Post by: Scots13 on October 12, 2019, 02:11:43 PM
Passing TD over 5 yards for Maryville. Thought we'd never see one ::)
7-0 MC early in 1Q
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 12, 2019, 02:20:00 PM
10-0 Methodist at half. The freshman QB is playing well. The defense is playing their tails off
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Post by: Hawks88 on October 12, 2019, 08:08:29 PM
Any time we beat Maryville is a good day but we definitely could have played better. After last week's good defensive effort I thought the defense gave up too much and the offense definitely left 2 or 3 TD's on the field with open receivers over-thrown. Still some work to do to get where we want to be. Hopefully we can go to Brevard next and play a cleaner game.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 12, 2019, 09:25:05 PM
First week I was perfect on my picks. Maryville gave Huntingdon everything they could handle. Averett and NCWC took care of business. Methodist and Brevard played a very chippy game. There were only 13 accepted penalties but at least 5 sets of offsetting unsportsmanlike penalties. Methodist only pick really didn't matter since it was with no time right before half. One of the Brevard picks didn't matter since the player returned it about 25 yards then fumbled it back to the Tornados. Methodist played extremely well on defense except for three plays; a 79 yard TD pass, a 64 yard TD pass, and a 44 yard TD pass. The other 64 plays resulted in 153 yards. All three of those passes someone got behind the secondary. There was a blocked XP by a FR DE that wound up being the difference in the game. The FR QB for Methodist grew up this weekend. He may have held the ball a little longer than he should have at times but they were down 6 with a little over 2 minuets to play. The final score was a 48 yard catch and run by the WR McNeil (185 yds and 2 TD on the day). Hopefully they can build on this next week in Tennessee. Brevard is a good ball club. They have good size on both fronts. As a boy from the mountains of NC I definitely wish them well going forward.
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Post by: DGPugh on October 13, 2019, 06:15:59 PM
Go Hawks  ;)
Everyone have a great week
keep the faith :)
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Post by: MRMIKESMITH on October 13, 2019, 08:34:31 PM
Looking forward to the N.C. Wesleyan v. Averett game. Been following both teams from afar. Hoping to see a good one.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 14, 2019, 11:47:40 AM
Weekly predictions:
LaGrange beats Greensboro.
Since Maryville joined the conference in 05 the games against Methodist in Tennessee have been close with the on exception being 2017 which was a 21 point win for the home team.  2015 6 pt win for MVC, 2013 9 pt win for MVC, 2011 2 pt win for MVC, 2009 6 pt win for MVC (4 OTs), 2007 4 pt win for MU, 2005 4 pt win for MU.  I expect a close game again this season.  I would believe that Maryville can run the ball against the Monarchs.  I hope the Monarch's freshman QB takes another step forward and puts back-to-back performances together.  I'll take the visitors here.
I believe Huntingdon will take care of business against Brevard but I don't think it will come easy.  Brevard will be angry after last weeks last second loss.
NCWC goes and plays Averett under the lights in Danville.  Both teams have played LaGrange and Greensboro this season.  The offensive outputs for both teams were very similar. (NCWC scored 96 and Averett scored 103 combined against both schools).  The difference lies on the other side of the ball (NCWC allowed 42 and Averett allowed 7 combined).  Averett's defense will generate turnovers and negative plays.  The Cougars have 28 sacks and are +3 in turnover margin this season.  The Bishops have only allowed 3 sacks so far this season but are -4 in turnover margin.  NCWC will score some points but not enough.  Averett wins by double digits.

If Huntingdon and Averett both win this will set up a huge game next weekend in Alabama
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Post by: AU12345 on October 14, 2019, 01:23:39 PM
Hey everyone, kinda new to this Board/forum. Always loved reading these replies and just what people are talking about in the conference. The USA South doesn't get the national recognition other conferences get (especially the ODAC) so its always nice to see what others gotta say about other schools in the USAC.

I'll kinda act as the correspondent for the guys in Danville as I have a pretty good understanding of them.

When we were picked preseason #1 it caught some of us as a surprise (especially after losing our star RB last season, didn't think we'd get the respect we got). But it was great motivation for the team after talking with some of the players. 6 weeks into this season (including the bye) I'm trying to stay humble the best I can but this team is different this year, the defense has been outstanding from the jump, especially that D-Line (28 sacks in 5 games, which is also a school record for most in the season). Offensively we've been trying to get the run game going (we haven't had a RB break 100 yards in a game yet) but our passing game has been unreal with 5 receivers in the top 6 in the conference in multiple stats.

Opening up with HSC I didn't know what to expect after we beat them soundly last year, and their home environment is insane. The heartbreaking loss to RMC in the winding mins of the game was the absolute worst feeling I've had in my years watching this game, 18 points just blown because we tried to play conservative. Can't do that with a preseason top 25 team in the nation. Ferrum is our most bitter rival with our head coach formerly coaching there, always nice getting a win against them. Jumping into conference play we knew we were going to beat greensboro badly, Lagrange we thought would've been closer but our defense has been playing lights out since the Macon game trying to prove a point, leading us to a big win against a good Lagrange team.

Going into this season I knew our toughest games of the year were going to be N.C. Wesleyan, Huntington, and Maryville. But with Maryville starting 0-5 this year which is a shock to everyone in the conference and the whole south region, i feel like Brevard is going to be a tough matchup for us when we go up there to the mountains of NC in November.

These next 2-3 weeks will determine who will win the conference and I'm beyond excited to watch it. Wesleyan is very similar to us in their athletic ability but their QB has to be better with his decision making to pull out a win, especially with the best DL in the nation (statistically) coming at you. I know Huntington is glad to have Otis Porter back who is absolutely dominating right now, our secondary may have their hands full with him but again our pass rush is top notch so we'll see how the hawks OL can handle it. Moving into Maryville, even though they haven't won a conference game yet (granted they have the hardest opening conference schedule in the league) we can not take them lightly. Brevard May be a shootout, brevard is going to be a really good team in the future behind Dalton Cole, expect a championship there sooner rather than later. And then wrapping up with Methodist. We made it a game with them last year when it shouldn't have been (mainly cause after the Maryville loss last year our offense couldn't get back in stride, leading us to find a new OC who is doing TREMENDOUS this season). Methodist is another team we cannot take lightly, they can run the ball and they can do it affectively.

Have a good week everyone and good luck to your respective teams
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Post by: Hawks88 on October 14, 2019, 01:51:51 PM
Right now we just need to take care of our business at Brevard this week and not think ahead but with the steady improvement Averett has shown the last several years we are definitely going to need to bring our A game next week.
In other news I am happy that Huntingdon has several JV games scheduled this year, Columbus State(GA) club team last week and LaGrange in a couple of weeks. I missed last week's game but yesterday I got to watch them play a team called Community Christian out of Atlanta. If you google it there seems to be several different versions of it in different locations. I wonder if they are related to the old College of Faith/University of Faith people of a few years ago. They had some very big guys and a few good athletes so it was a good test for our young guys.
The first half was pretty even before we pulled away in the second half to win 35-20. Pretty solid execution all around with not many breakdowns on either side of the ball and great effort from everyone. Depending on how many we can retain I feel pretty good about what we can do next year with a lot these guys.
It's mainly good to see these guys get a chance to get on the field for real games to give them a chance to show what they can do and get a chance at a promotion to Saturdays. It seems like it's been a challenge the last several years to get games since Faulkner and Birmingham-Southern stopped having JV teams and Lagrange hasn't been as active.  Hopefully we can have as many or more of these opportunities going forward. It was much better for our depth a few years ago when we were able to get in 5 or 6 of these a year.
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Post by: Pat Coleman on October 15, 2019, 08:01:17 AM
Quote from: AU12345 on October 14, 2019, 01:23:39 PM
I'll kinda act as the correspondent for the guys in Danville as I have a pretty good understanding of them.

Welcome to the board!
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Post by: BerryCollegeFan on October 15, 2019, 02:14:11 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 15, 2019, 08:01:17 AM
Quote from: AU12345 on October 14, 2019, 01:23:39 PM
I'll kinda act as the correspondent for the guys in Danville as I have a pretty good understanding of them.

Welcome to the board!
great first post AU12345
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Post by: Ralph Turner on October 15, 2019, 09:32:34 PM
Welcome AU12345.
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Post by: AU12345 on October 19, 2019, 12:41:07 PM
Happy game-day everyone

Here are my predictions for this week:

1. NC Wesleyan @ Averett
My pick: Averett (38-10)
It's homecoming here in Danville and what better team to play then the team who beat us on our homecoming 2 years ago in the winding seconds to an illegal procedure as we were about to score. Parking has been sold out since last Saturday so it's going to be an unreal crowd tonight. Also, it's going to be extremely hard for Wesleyan's QB to be able to play mistake free football and that's what they need it they want a chance to win. Our pass defense isn't the greatest but we make plays when needed. The bishops tend to run the ball a lot against us and our defense is #1 in the conference vs the Run.

2. Huntingdon @ Brevard
My pick: Huntingdon (28-17)
This will be the most interesting game on the docket for the conference. A really good offense (primarily air attack) vs a great defense (secondary). Definitely going to be watching this one since we do not play till 6. I feel like if the Hawks can get the pass game going early it'll be a long day for the Tornado's. Setting up the "conference championship" next week as Averett goes down to Alabama.

3. Greensboro @ Lagrange
My pick: Lagrange (35-3)
We all know Greensboro isn't that good, not going to sugar coat it. Lagrange couldn't get going against Averett Last week (only managing 7 points) expect them to get back on track today.

4. Methodist @ Maryville
My Pick: Methodist (17-14)
Going to be a good game as the Scots host the Monarchs on Homecoming. Methodist's two freshman who have constantly been in the USA South Rookie of the week awards are the future of that program. Maryville needs to gain an air attack to have a chance to win, I feel like they can run the ball and win the game but that Monarch defense is stout and won't allow that for too long. With Methodist coming off that big come-from-behind win last week against undefeated Brevard, I feel like they are the team with the most momentum in this conference as of today.

Looking forward to hearing from y'all at the end of the weekend/early Monday. Good luck to your respective teams today!
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 19, 2019, 02:25:03 PM
If Methodist keeps up the penalties it is going to be a long game
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Post by: DGPugh on October 19, 2019, 04:09:31 PM
Go Hawks
Hope we can play well against Averett next week
:)
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Post by: Hawks88 on October 19, 2019, 10:36:44 PM
It was a cold, wet, miserable day in Brevard. The defensive side of the ball really played well today. We sure needed that as the offense moved the ball pretty well for the most part but three turnovers and several stalled/unfinished drives kept the Hawks score down and the game in doubt until Kobe Smith broke one for 83 yards near the end to ice it.
If we can get a similar defensive effort and the offense can finish more drives then we will have a good shot next week.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: AU12345 on October 20, 2019, 09:07:43 AM
Well that was a very interesting Week 7.

I was 3 for 4 with my predictions on the night, here's a little recap on each one.

1. Averett vs NC Wesleyan
We handled buisness like we were supposed to but it definitely got closer than it should have, with the fumble recovery taken back to the house as we were driving to go up 28. An unbelievable performance by sophomore WR Chase Nixon was the time setter as they could not guard him at all (167 yards and 3 TD's) and finally we had a RB break over 100 yards rushing (Tapscott with 147). Heading into the "conference championship" next weekend it's definitely going to be one to watch.

2. Huntingdon vs Brevard
One that I was kinda shocked about. The weather definitely had to have played a major impact on the game because i know the Hawks offense is more powerful than 21 points to a middle of the back team in the conference. The 80+ yard TD on 3rd down was unreal. Not sure how you play great defense all
game and give away the theoretical dagger to seal it. I was thinking that brevard was going to get another shot and score if they got that stop. One thing I noticed is that Brevard's run game was very dominate, maybe we take that route next week as we finally got our running game going against a worthy opponent.

3. Lagrange vs Greensboro
I was jumping back and forth between the Methodist game and the Huntingdon game all early afternoon. Then when a friend of mine told me that Lagrange was only up 11 at halftime I immediately switched to see what was happening. I thought, maybe, just maybe Greensboro could squeak one out as it seemed like they had momentum, but Lagrange eventually remembered who they were and finished the game beating the pride soundly.

4. Maryville vs Methodist
Well the monarchs still are searching for that win whenever they play the Scots at home. A close game throughout but an RPO on a busted coverage in the 3rd Quarter swung the momentum in Maryville's favor which they rode to win their first game of the year... still can't believe I just said that. If you told me before the season that Maryville would be winless until week 7, I'd bust out laughing with tears rolling down my face.

I want to give my predictions for next week right now, but I am going to wait till Friday, to release that. Have a good rest of your weekend and hope everyone has a great week.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 21, 2019, 09:20:29 AM
I was able to watch the first half of the Maryville and Methodist game online.  It appeared to be raining most of the first half.  Methodist could not get it going on the ground and the defense really held up well.  On Maryville's only TD drive in the first half Methodist was flagged four times.  Outside of that drive Maryville had nothing sustained.  Methodist was lucky to come away with 3 points on their first drive since they lost a 20 yd and a 22 yard pass play to penalties.  Methodist was flagged 8 times before half (not all were accepted).  The second half they cleaned it up a bit with only 3 called penalties but the sacks (I believe 4) were the back breaker along with missing out on a few 1st downs by a yard.  Maryville is a tough place to play especially on homecoming. 
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 21, 2019, 10:12:57 AM
3 out of 4 on picks also last week.  This week I think the games are a little tougher to pick winners:

Methodist should get a win in Greensboro but hopefully they can clean up the mistakes going into homecoming next week against NCWC
Brevard has to go to Rocky Mount to play NCWC.  This is the classic battle of strength against strength.  Brevard's defense limited a potent Huntingdon offense last week but have not put up more than 24 points on offense in conference this season.  NCWC has had success offensively this year but has thrown 12 picks (Brevard's defense has 13 on the season).  I will take NCWC at home for the win but if the Tornados turn over the Bishops 3+ times watch out.
LaGrange goes to Maryville as the Panthers come off a much closer than I expected home win against Greensboro.  I think Maryville will win this game with their defense but LaGrange has been very balanced on offense this year which can cause issues.  LaGrange has not been terrible on defense either so expect a low scoring affair.
The game of the week is occurring in Alabama for the USAC.  The Cougars walk into this match up with the best defense in the conference by most statistical measures as well as the eye test.  The same can be said for the Hawks offense (but Averett is very close in most categories).  These teams likely have the best 2 QBs in the conference (both seniors and both all-conference last season).  There is a chance of rain in the forecast in Montgomery with the weather in the upper 60's low 70's.  The home field advantage along with the 8+ hour bus ride from Danville will play a factor as well.  I think the game will come down to the trenches.  Averett has 28 sacks (4.67 per game) on defense and Huntingdon has allowed 9 sacks (1.5 per game) on offense.  Also of some note from this past weekend is Huntingdon's losses on the season look better and better.  Oshkosh has one loss on the season to a ranked Sailsbury team and Birmingham-Southern just upset top ten ranked Berry.  With all that said I still think I will take the visitors but I would not bet any amount of money that mattered to me on it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AU12345 on October 21, 2019, 12:07:13 PM
I'm not sure what to do with the information about Huntingdon's loss to Birmingham Southern, yes they beat the hawks and upset Berry, but they also lost to Lagrange. What are y'all's opinions on that? There's a big skill gap between the Hawks and the Panthers, and I'd take Huntingdon everyday of the week. Was BSC taking Lagrange lightly? Or did they catch fire late this season?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 21, 2019, 01:07:59 PM
BSC was a very solid looking team when they beat us so that loss to LaGrange is hard to comprehend. They must have made a great deal of improvement from game 1 to game 2.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 21, 2019, 01:17:44 PM
I think you have to chalk up Birmingham's week one loss to being week one.  They had 3 turnovers to LaGrange's one.  They also had 120 penalty yards.  Birmingham held Huntingdon to it's worst offensive output of the season.  If you look at from the comparative scoring side (which I think is more for fun than actually being able to determine something about a team) you have this:

Birmingham loses to LaGrange 29-14
Birmingham beats Huntingdon 45-13
Birmingham loses to Hendrix  34-24
Birmingham beats Berry 28-15
Berry beats Hendrix 27-9
Berry beats Maryville 31-10
Berry beats LaGrange 34-9
Huntingdon beats Maryville 45-35
Huntingdon VS LaGrange 11/16
Maryville VS LaGrange 10/26

SO.....
Birmingham is clearly better than Berry and Huntingdon but worse than Hendrix and LaGrange
Berry is clearly better than LaGrange, Hendrix, and Maryville but worse than Birmingham
Hendrix is better than Birmingham but worse than Berry
Huntingdon is better than Maryville but worse than Birmingham (TBD on LaGrange)
LaGrange is better than Birmingham and worse than Berry (TBD on Huntingdon and Maryville)
Maryville is worse than Berry and Huntingdon (TBD on LaGrange)

You could also throw Centre in this mix who has wins against Maryville and Hendrix on the season to go along with three close losses by a total of 17 points.  Centre also has games pending against Birmingham and Berry.  I don't know if any of this actually helps sort anything out but it was interesting to me.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 21, 2019, 01:57:44 PM
Yeah, you can get a headache trying to make anything from all that. There's really not much comparative scoring between Averette and HC since the three conference teams we have played are the three they are yet to play and vice-versa. The closest I can find is we beat Guilford by 26 who lost to Randolph-Macon by 13 who beat Averette by 3. Whatever you can take from that, all I know is that we need to get the W to keep our fate in our own hands since I don't see Averette losing two out of three to Maryville, Brevard, and Methodist.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 22, 2019, 11:58:45 AM
It is tough to judge the "Western Division" of the USAC vs the "Eastern Division" since there is typically not as much crossover in the non-conference opponents.  It seems like now you get the Maryville/Huntingdon/LaGrange VS the SAA and the Greensboro/Averett/NCWC/Methodist VS the ODAC.  Anyone can pick up a game against Apprentice if needed.  So far it looks like Brevard will take anyone that will play them.  I can't imagine Guilford or Huntingdon will be excited to keep that series going due to the travel for a OOC game.  I think someone said earlier this season on the boards that E&H is done playing Maryville which is a shame since they are relatively close to each other and should have shared recruiting areas.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AU12345 on October 22, 2019, 12:25:28 PM
In regards to our of conference games. I've heard rumors that Hampden-Sydney and Randolph-Macon both are dropping Averett from their non-conference schedule. Rumors also say that we will now play Christopher Newport (who was a former USA South school) and Top 25 Salisbury. So two new faces the cougars will face in 2020. I feel like CNU should be a win for us and Salisbury will rn the better of the two match ups.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on October 22, 2019, 01:30:28 PM
Quote from: AU12345 on October 22, 2019, 12:25:28 PM
In regards to our of conference games. I've heard rumors that Hampden-Sydney and Randolph-Macon both are dropping Averett from their non-conference schedule. Rumors also say that we will now play Christopher Newport (who was a former USA South school) and Top 25 Salisbury. So two new faces the cougars will face in 2020. I feel like CNU should be a win for us and Salisbury will rn the better of the two match ups.

That is awesome. I'm elated with that as that would get us back to 10 games as long as the MAC/NJAC challenge remains. Would be a nice touch-up to boost your name recognition and SOS.

Also, I would have to check with the ODAC board on why the change. Is it a private vs. public issue?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AU12345 on October 24, 2019, 03:21:32 PM
A lot of interesting matchups this week. Here are my predictions.

1. Methodist @ Greensboro (Methodist wins 35-10)
Even though Greensboro kept it close in the first half with Lagrange, i still don't think they get the job done. The freshman duo for Methodist is playing very well and their run game is hitting their stride. Methodist wins this one easy.

2. Brevard @ NC Wesleyan (Wesleyan wins 24-20)
Brevard had Huntingdon on the ropes last week but gave the game away late as they let a run go for 85 to the house on a 3rd & 5 with 3 mins left in the game. Wesleyan's running attack is one of the best in the league with their two headed change-of-pace backs with Curley and Black. If Brevard can jump on them early in the pass game it may be a different ball game but I think Wesleyan wins in a close one at home.

3. Lagrange @ Maryville (Lagrange wins 17-10)
Lagrange's front 7 is somewhat underrated, their nose guard is one of the best in the conference and they have speed everywhere. Maryville won their first game against Methodist last week but they need to establish an air attack to win games. This game is going to be close all game but Lagrange pulls away late.

4. Averett @ Huntingdon (Averett wins 35-17)
Last but not the least, the game most will be keeping their eye on this week. Both teams are undefeated in conference play so someone will go home with a loss. We take the 8 hour bus ride down to Montgomery to play a good Hawks team. Otis Porter is the key to the game. If he has a big game, the Hawks win, if we can limit his impact, we can come out with a win. Averett's running game finally got going with getting a RB over 100 in a game for the first time this season, so look for us to get that going early. It'll be a battle of the two best passing offenses in the Conference, it comes down to the secondary, which one will get a stop first?  Not sure what the weather will be like but I'm looking
forward to a great game.

Good luck to everyone and their respective teams
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 24, 2019, 04:21:38 PM
Quote from: AU12345 on October 24, 2019, 03:21:32 PM


4. Averett @ Huntingdon (Averett wins 35-17)
Last but not the least, the game most will be keeping their eye on this week. Both teams are undefeated in conference play so someone will go home with a loss. We take the 8 hour bus ride down to Montgomery to play a good Hawks team. Otis Porter is the key to the game. If he has a big game, the Hawks win, if we can limit his impact, we can come out with a win. Averett's running game finally got going with getting a RB over 100 in a game for the first time this season, so look for us to get that going early. It'll be a battle of the two best passing offenses in the Conference, it comes down to the secondary, which one will get a stop first?  Not sure what the weather will be like but I'm looking
forward to a great game.

Good luck to everyone and their respective teams

80% chance of rain with a chance of a thunderstorm. High near 79.

By the way, last week Otis Porter became Huntingdon's career leader in receiving yards, currently at 2,675 yds.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 24, 2019, 04:57:52 PM
That's what everyone is looking forward to in late October is a wet, hot game in Alabama.  The only thing I request is no lightning delays.  See what you can do about that Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 25, 2019, 10:12:12 AM
Here you go.  ;)

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Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 25, 2019, 02:37:27 PM
I guess it didn't take. The possible thunderstorm is back.  >:(
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 26, 2019, 02:08:58 PM
The Monarchs are going to go into half with a 2 score lead but it could be so much more. Almost 100 penalty yards in the first half and an under thrown INT
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 26, 2019, 04:48:18 PM
I watched it on the computer
Great game either way. The Hawks came out on top, but AU is a really good team with no quit.
I hope AU wins the rest of the season, and we can play well at Greensboro :)

Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 26, 2019, 07:50:15 PM
Terrific football game between two evenly matched teams. Windy first half and rainy second half. Otis Porter with another big game, 10 catches for 194 yds and 2 tds. I especially liked the one in the 4th quarter when the DB tried to go ahead and tackle him in the end zone before the ball got there and he stayed up and caught it anyway.
Coach Adams has done a really good job building up that Averett program and I can see them being a tough foe to deal with for a long while.
Hawks just need to win 2 of the last 3 to get the AQ. I didn't want to say it until we got this one behind us but if we can go ahead and get the AQ I sure would like to see the rematch if Birmingham-Southern can win out.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on October 26, 2019, 08:11:58 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 26, 2019, 07:50:15 PM
Terrific football game between two evenly matched teams. Windy first half and rainy second half. Otis Porter with another big game, 10 catches for 194 yds and 2 tds. I especially liked the one in the 4th quarter when the DB tried to go ahead and tackle him in the end zone before the ball got there and he stayed up and caught it anyway.
Coach Adams has done a really good job building up that Averett program and I can see them being a tough foe to deal with for a long while.
Hawks just need to win 2 of the last 3 to get the AQ. I didn't want to say it until we got this one behind us but if we can go ahead and get the AQ I sure would like to see the rematch if Birmingham-Southern can win out.

Go Hawks!

I don't think they would do a rematch first round, however since you are only 95 miles apart and you aren't conference members, it seems likely if they beat Trinity. Otherwise, you'll most likely be stuck in the travel pod with Redlands, Chapman, UMHB, NWC Champion, SAA Champion.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 26, 2019, 08:32:41 PM
I definitely want BSC and/or Berry to win out so we can have the short trip. If they both lose and Trinity wins it then it will be like 2016 where they can send us where ever they decide to put us.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 26, 2019, 10:35:20 PM
All the Hawks have to do is win 2 out of 3 going forward. Road trip for the first round of the playoffs in TX?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 28, 2019, 11:08:13 AM
2 out of 4 picking last weeks games and I can't say I am surprised by either result I was wrong on.  I've said it before and I will say it again Brevard is a tough team and they found a way to win on the road in Rocky Mount.  Huntingdon's win over Averett can be considered a mild upset at best but I thought that game was a toss up.  AU12345 called it when he said the Cougars needed to limit Porter to win the game.  They did not to the tune of 10 catches for 194 yds and 2 TDs.  On to week 9:

Huntingdon wins big in Greensboro
Averett plays mad against Maryville and wins at home.  I think the Cougars put up 40+ points
Brevard wins at LaGrange with another strong defensive effort.  I believe the Tornados hold the Panthers to under 20 points

My game of the week is in Fayetteville again.  The Monarchs did what they were supposed to do against Greensboro but still have issues with penalties.  There were 18 accepted penalties for 180 yards.  On the season they are averaging 10 penalties for 97 yards which ranks 242 out of 245 in the country.  That is the biggest concern in my opinion.  I have been pleasantly surprised with the improvements on the defensive side of the ball.  The only poor performance from that unit was against Huntingdon (who is currently the best team the Monarchs have played).  The FR QB has improved as the season has progressed as well and looks so much more confident.  NCWC will be the second best offense that Methodist has faced this season.  Totten at QB and the 2 headed RB duo of Black and Curley will be more than a handful.  I am hoping that Totten will throw it to the wrong team once or twice.  They also have the reigning defensive player of the year at LBer who leads the conference in tackles who will likely make running the ball tough.  This is Methodist's homecoming and there will be new inductions to the athletics hall-of-fame.  This year they will be posthumously inducting head coach Jim Sypult.  Coach Sy was at the helm for 19 seasons in Fayetteville with 1997 (9-1 and ranked #20 in the country) and 2005 (8-2 shared conference title) being some of the highlights.  There were numerous all-conference and all-american selections in his tenure as well.  I am expecting a very large turnout of alumnus for this which will hopefully add to the home field advantage.  All that being said I am going to predict a Methodist win highlighted by a big performance through the air by the Monarch Offense.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AU12345 on October 28, 2019, 11:44:48 AM
Happy Monday everyone

Not the result Cougar fans were hoping for but sitting there in the stands Saturday, I can't help but be proud of those guys. Down 2 score multiple times in the 4th Quarter and kept fighting. A few questionable calls late but we cannot make those decisions late in a championship game. We live and learn. It's real my unbelievable how much an impact one player can make (Otis being out last year when we played HC) the guy is an absolute monster and there's no reason we shouldn't being seeing him on sundays (maybe in a Falcons uniform).

I went 1-4 in my picks last week (with the obvious being Methodist's win over Greensboro) I've said it once and I'll say it again. Brevard is going to be a force to be reckoned with in the coming years. Their scheme is tremendous and they have athletes all over the field on defense. Maryville looks like they finally gained their footing in the conference, and now as a cougar fan, all we can hope for is an upset 2 weeks from now as Wesleyan travels to Alabama to give us a shot at possibly being Co-Champions of the USA South.

A quick little fact before i get into the predictions for this upcoming week. If the Cougars win out the remaining 3 games, it'll be the most wins in team history in both a 2 year as well as a 4 year span. This senior class really is something special and couldn't be more proud of this group.

My predictions:
Maryville @ Averett (Averett wins 42-10)
That sickening feeling that was in my gut as a fan is no doubt the same they have in theirs. Look for the defense to rebound d play lights out the rest of the year. We need to get our pass rush back (only 1 sack in the last 2 games). Offense will continue to be dominant and we'll get back on the right track.

NC Wesleyan @ Methodist (Wesleyan wins 24-21)
Close game but Wesleyan pulls it out on the road, not sold on Methodist quite yet, but i am certain on how good the monarchs run game is. As a cougar fan I want Wesleyan to have as much momentum heading to Alabama as possible. However, you never know what can happen on a Saturday afternoon.

Huntingdon @ Greensboro (Huntingdon wind 54-0)
Going to keep this short and simple. Otis will have at least 200 yards and Lambert will throw for 400 easily.

Brevard @ Lagrange (Brevard wins 21-14)
Close throughout the game but Brevard closes it out late
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 02, 2019, 11:32:36 AM
Game day, game day, it's a great day to be alive, it's a great day to be a Monarch! Woooo!!

Hopefully the game that kicks off at 1pm in Fayetteville looks better than the alumni flag football game played earlier this morning.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Subway Alum on November 02, 2019, 11:49:06 AM
Brevard fan here, rejoining the board after absence since 2017 . . .  Now that Brevard is getting better-established in Division III and will soon be a full, football-title competitor in the USAS I'm getting to know the conference teams better and enjoy following the Tornados by way of the video game coverage most schools now have. With the win against N. C. Wesleyan last week BC has a decent shot at finishing over .500.  The only  winning season to date since the program was restarted in 2005 was in 2009, when Brevard ran over their non-conference opponents, then played fairly well in the conference (SAC, Division II).  Those seasons in Division II were difficult for a school with an enrollment under 1,000 trying to operate in an athletic scholarships situation against strong programs like Carson-Newman and Lenior-Rhyne.   Division III is a much better fit for Brevard, and as they get established it looks--as some others have mentioned here--that they can be a factor to be reckoned with in future USAS seasons. 

The current Brevard coaching staff came in with the division move and has revamped the offense from a ball control running orientation to a more wide-open style.  The only thing Brevard used to win every week was time of possession, but that has changed dramatically and the Tornados are essentially able to score from any point on the field.  This didn't happen overnight, since there were problems with retaining players for more than a season while the team played in Division II, and the offensive players who did stick around were recruited and schooled in the option running game.  But there is finally some stability at quarterback, resulting in the ability to recruit better receivers, and Brevard has retained a usually-reliable ground game keyed by an offensive line that is getting the chance to play together for more than one season.   . . .  Most of the Brevard coaches have some NFL experience, and that has shown to advantage with the 2019 defense. The defense has either scored or set up a number of Brevard points this season.  Granted, that's not something a team can rely on, but it's something that opponents seem to be keeping in mind against the Tornados.

I'm optimistic for a Brevard win at LaGrange this week to set up what would be the biggest home game to date in the 15-year history of revived Tornado football--Averett. There's still not a lot of student support for football here, with Brevard's emphasis on outdoor education and a nationally-known cycling team, but these things take time. If Brevard can become an annual contender for the USAS football title, maybe even the hikers and bikers will spare some of their weekend time for a football game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 02, 2019, 03:03:36 PM
Welcome Subway Alum
My bride and I (45 yrs now) were on the motorbike in the mtn's this summer and came out of the 'woods' near Brevard NEAT AREA.
These are nice folk. I've been reading and occasionally writing here since 2007 (under AF4) and '09=> now by my name :)


keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 02, 2019, 03:35:14 PM
Good job by the Hawks going to Geensboro and taking care of business and getting lots of young guys on the field in the 2nd half. Big one against NC Wesleyan next week for the chance to clinch the AQ.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 03, 2019, 11:59:17 AM
Hawks 88
are you going to the Wesleyan game ?
I might head down, depends on weather and some logs I need to saw this week :)
  A recap shows
Lambert: 6/8 for 68 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT
E. Thomas: 19 rushes for 139 yards
D. Cunningham: 6 rushes for 98 yards
R. Trimble: 6 rushes for 78 yards
J. Pugh: 8 rushes for 53 yards ( I like his last name :) )

I hope we can avoid the let downs we had in years past, and not let this thing slip away. I figure these folk will come to play :)

Have a great week, keep the faith :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2019, 03:22:19 PM
Definitely planning to be there, DG. Right now the weather forecast is calling for a beautiful sunny with low 60's. If that sticks we can't ask for much better than that. I expect NCW will show up ready to give us a battle but our guys have had good focus since conference play started so I think we'll be ready. If you make it over, look us up.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 03, 2019, 10:18:59 PM
Hawks
If i get over to Montgomery I'll look for you in Y'all's Spot in the stands :)
keep the faith
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 04, 2019, 10:26:57 AM
Well things certainly didn't go the Monarchs way Saturday.  Things started out well with the Methodist offense going 11 plays for 65 yards in about 5 minutes for a TD.  Then the Bishops took to ensuing kickoff 92 yards to the house.  The Monarchs had something going on their next possession but a sack on 3&10 took them well out of field goal range.  The punt was downed at the 1 and NCWC took 11 plays to travel the 99 yards for another score.  NCWC had the ball 3 times on offense in the first half and scored 3 TDs (also the KR TD).  Methodist did manage 17 points so it was still a game at that point.   The Bishops got the ball out of half and threw a 41 yard bomb for another score.  Methodist had a little something going on their first possession of the second half when Antonio Johnson (reigning DPOY in the conference) picked a ball of on the 6 yard line going in and returned it 72 yards.  At this point it was all but over even though there were 25 minutes left to play.  NCWC only punted the ball twice all game and both were in the 4th quarter.  They turned it over once on downs and lost one fumble.  Their defense sacked the Monarchs FR QB 5 times on the day.  I was very impressed with the Bishops on Saturday in all phases of the game which is what makes the Brevard loss even more curious.  I don't believe that Huntingdon should or will take NCWC lightly next weekend.  On the week the Methodist game was my only miss.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AU12345 on November 04, 2019, 12:29:09 PM
Happy Monday everyone

Went 4-4 on my picks this week (Not a lot of hard decisions to be made) now as an Averett fan we're on to the 2nd most important week of our season this year.

My predictions for this upcoming week:

1. Greensboro @ Maryville (Maryville wins 35-0)
Maryville running attack gave us some problems early in the game, but thankfully we held them to 13 points in the game. The score bounce back this week and get a win vs the Pride.

2. Lagrange @ Methodist (Methodist wins 28-7)
A tough loss last week for the Monarchs vs NC Wesleyan, look at them to get back on track this week to head into the final week of the season vs Averett.

3. NC Wesleyan @ Huntingdon (Huntingdon wind 28-21)
As bad as I want the Bishops to upset the Hawks on the road to hell us with a share of the USA South title this year, i don't think it'll happen. The Bishops have a good corner in #5, he held our starting receiver to the lowest totals he's had this season so maybe he can limit Porter. If the Bishops can stop the hawks passing game I think they have a chance.

4. Averett @ Brevard (Averett wins 24-7)
Looked at the weather forecast for this weekend and boy it's going to be a cold one (30 degrees in the mountains of North Carolina. We're going to rely on the run game because our receivers haven't really had a game in the cold yet. Most of the time when it's cold teams tend to run. We'll hope for a Wesleyan win this weekend to help us reach our goal of a conference title (granted we wouldn't get the AQ, a ring is a ring)

Hope everyone has a great week
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 04, 2019, 12:55:02 PM
I wish the Monarchs season had taken a few different turns but with 7 games played I can say this:

The defense is so much improved.  Last season they gave up 30+ points on 7 different occasions.  The only exceptions were Greensboro and somehow Averett.  This season only Huntingdon and NCWC produced that many points.  Averett  and Shenandoah could do the same but I don't think LaGrange will.  On paper all that will be lost is a SR DL and 2 SR DBs.  There are a few FR in the front 7 that will be fun to watch for the next few years.

The offense found a QB.  Bullins is on pace for the best FR season at the position in the history of the program.  In 2011 Max Reber came in as a FR and would up starting 7 games.  He owns most of the all-time passing records at Methodist.  2015 a FR named Dylan DeGroot had a better season statistically than Reber.  I believe Bullins will have a good chance at offensive ROY in the conference.  By his JR year watch out.

The rest of the offense has been a little disappointing.  I thought that the SR RB Howard would follow up his monster JR season with a special SR year.  I think that inexperience and injuries to a young OL have hurt those chances some.  The OL misses the 2 SR OL all-conference players from last year at the tackle positions.  Again I thing the future on this side of the ball is very bright.  They are losing the top 2 RBs as well as a SR WR but on paper nothing else.

The FR kicker has performed well and hopefully a off-season in the weight room sill help the leg strength and distance.  The JR punter is a field position weapon.

I'm not giving up hope on the final 3 games of this season with all that said.  LaGrange coming to town this weekend is very winnable game.  The last 2 away games will be tough @ Averett who will be looking for back to back 8-2 seasons followed by the weather makeup game @ Shenandoah.  That will be a difficult game no matter what but if Shenandoah can beat W&L in 2 weeks the Hornets will be playing for their first 7 win season since 2004 I believe.  If the Monarchs can win 2 out of the last 3 that would be their first season .500 or better since 2014 and by far the best season under Coach Williams.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 07, 2019, 09:20:54 AM
AU12345 I am going to agree with all of your winners but to try and make things interesting I will give the scores a shot as well

Maryville 45 Greensboro 7 and Maryville will have over 300 yards rushing
Methodist 31 LaGrange 17 and Methodist throws for over 200 and runs for over 200
Huntingdon 45 NCWC 42 if Averett couldn't slow the Hawks down I don't like the Bishops chances.  If NCWC throws a bunch of picks then the score will not be near as close
Averett 14 Brevard 10 in a game that will be a physical as it comes.  If the Cougars do have success in the run game I would expect it to be outside since the Tornado's interior DL are rather large
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 09, 2019, 07:29:36 PM
Very disappointing day. NC Wesleyan came in with a good game plan and executed it very well while we didn't execute much of ours at all. The time of possession difference was insane, 38:19 to 21:41. Not sure how we ended up with only 35 fewer total yards than them. Box score says they were 11 of 16 on 3rd down conversions. That seems low as it seemed like we had them in 3rd and long all day but they kept converting. Our D just had a hard time making a play to get off the field.

Just forget this one and take care of business next week at LaGrange and we get to keep playing. Playoffs start now.


Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 09, 2019, 07:41:59 PM
Hawks 88
It was great seeing you my friend. The score was 23-7....... but I didn't think it was that close. They beat us like a rented mule.
Just as you said, it seemed like it was 3rd down and 8-12 for the first all the time, and Number 17 made it work for them. Wow, that kid was right on today.

We were off, and they were on. Still, no excuses, today, the NC Wesleyan Battling Bishops were a better team than HC.

Lord willing we will re group cross the 'hooch into JawJa next Saturday, and drop the hammer hard on LaGrange. Well lets hope we do :)

I do not wish to besmirch ( :) ) the good name of LaGrange College, but i'd rather Huntingdon beat them than anyone :).

I pray all have a great week
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 09, 2019, 08:09:37 PM
Brevard over Averette 10-9. Trying to find out how the tie-breaker would go if we were to lose next week. Might depend on whether Brevard is included in the calculation since the aren't eligible yet.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 09, 2019, 08:43:01 PM
Wow what a weekend in the USASC! Good for the Tornadoes, Bishops, Scotts, and Monarchs. I don't know how it works out if there is a 4 way tie with one of those teams unable to win the AQ. Huntingdon can make life easy and just win. I believe whoever goes to the playoffs it will be an unfavorable matchup.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 09, 2019, 09:14:45 PM
Yep, we need to go ahead and win so we wouldn't have to worry.
If it's like most 4 way tie-breakers where you go with records among the tied teams you would have HC and BC at 2-1 and AU and NCW at 1-2. Our head-to-head over BC would go to us.
If you leave BC out then you have the old A beat B who beat C who beat A where it usually looks at record against the next team in the standings which would be BC who we beat and they didn't.
Any three way tie that includes NCW then we would have the win over that next team.
A three way that doesn't include NCW has us with wins over both the other tied teams.
The only tie I can find that we don't win in these cases would be if AU and BC both lose and leave a two way tie between us and NCW. With AU playing Methodist and BC playing Greensboro there's not much chance of that scenario.
It's possible I'm missing something in there on top of not really knowing the USA South tie-breaker so, as Wild Horse Rider says, let's just take care of our own business and beat LC.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 09, 2019, 09:17:14 PM
Wild Horse Rider
"I believe whoever goes to the playoffs it will be an unfavorable matchup"
--- that is usually the case :)
We beat Hendrix in the first round one year, but usually,,, not good.
As Far as LaGrange, I sure hope we beat them. LaGrange is just across the river from where we farm.

They have spoiled our playoff hopes once before :).

WAY TO GO Methodist

Go Hawks, beat LaGrange :)
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AU12345 on November 10, 2019, 11:45:22 AM
Disappointed, shocked, but not surprised.... that sums up this weekend for me...

Went 2-4 on my picks this weekend and very upset bout our result as a Cougar fan. I don't know why but every year we get into that "championship making" game, we collapse. Our offense gets really conservative near the end of the season and I don't know why. Wesleyan blessed us with the upset win over HC, all we had to do was win out to clinch a share of the conference title (with HC claiming the AQ). I said it once and I'll say it again... Brevard is legit, their defense is outstanding and their offense is average (if they can find a way to produce more points, brevard is going to have a reign around this conference for a while) Our defense played absolutely phenomenal all game. Our offense couldn't get going. I knew it was going to be a cold one once the sun went down and we wouldn't be able to pass the ball effectively, so we had to rely on our run game. Kicker Cole Westberry broke the career FG in a career mark last night which was nice but a missed kick in the 2nd quarter was the turning point of the game. If we hit that, the late TD didn't even matter.

I'll hold off on my predictions till later in the week. Hope everyone has a great week
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 10, 2019, 12:41:41 PM
I was watching the last part of the game. Do you know the story why Averett's QB was wearing #31?
Also, it was Brevard's feed that I was watching and after the game their commentators mentioned a possible bowl game. Anybody know what game they would be talking about?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on November 10, 2019, 12:56:55 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 10, 2019, 12:41:41 PM
I was watching the last part of the game. Do you know the story why Averett's QB was wearing #31?
Also, it was Brevard's feed that I was watching and after the game their commentators mentioned a possible bowl game. Anybody know what game they would be talking about?

Brevard participates in the ECACs and that's the bowl game they are mentioning.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 10, 2019, 02:34:02 PM
Quote from: MANDGSU on November 10, 2019, 12:56:55 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 10, 2019, 12:41:41 PM
I was watching the last part of the game. Do you know the story why Averett's QB was wearing #31?
Also, it was Brevard's feed that I was watching and after the game their commentators mentioned a possible bowl game. Anybody know what game they would be talking about?

Brevard participates in the ECACs and that's the bowl game they are mentioning.
Didn't think about ECAC. Hope they get to play one.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 11, 2019, 09:35:43 AM
I also went 2 out of 4 on the week and the only scores I was correct on was Greensboro scoring 7 points and Brevard scoring 10.  I am going to leave the scores to Vegas and people smarter than myself.  Last week of the regular season so here goes:

Maryville travels to NCWC and loses a close one.  NCWC finishes 6-4 on the season and 5-2 in conference.  The SR LB Johnson puts one final performance in the books that wraps up a second consecutive defensive player of the year.  Maryville finishes 3-7 or worse for the first time since 2005.  I think a lot of that was aided by their tough non-conference schedule and inconsistencies at QB this year.  I would expect a turn around next season.

Huntingdon plays at LaGrange and rebounds after last weeks defeat.  That will give Huntingdon the AQ and a road game in round one of the playoffs.  This is year 7 in the conference and the Hawks have been the USAC representative 4 times.  It will be a stretch I think but the Panther's FR RB Dixon is 236 yards short of the second 1,000 yard rushing season in program history.  Even more impressive since it looks like he didn't play in 2 games.

Brevard beats Greensboro and finishes 7-2 on the season.  I believe they will be eligible for post season play next year and should contend for the conference title especially since they will be returning a JR QB who has started for 2 years.

Methodist hopefully gives Averett a game in Danville.  I believe the Cougars are a better team and should have the advantage on the lines of scrimmage and special teams.  Averett's SRs want this win to get 26 total in their careers.  A Methodist upset would give the Monarchs a winning record in conference play and nothing less than a .500 season with the make-up game at Shenandoah the following week.  This game will be mostly about the intangibles and who has the motivation.  I give the edge to Averett for the home game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 11, 2019, 10:41:37 AM
I am curious what everyone else thinks.  I believe the DPOY is locked up but the OPOY is still very much up for debate.  Here is what I have broken down by position:

Averett QB Wright with 64% comp, 204 yards per, 21 TD to 5 INT, and 245 rushing to go along with 6 TD
I think you can make arguments for Totten from NCWC and Lambert from Huntingdon but the rushing puts Wright over the top for me.  If you are looking at conference only stats then Bullins from Methodist has an claim to make.

Maryville RB Bunch with 114 yards per game, 10 TDs, and 17 catches for 155 yards
Huntingdon RB Thomas with 98 yards per game, 10 TDs, and 11 kick returns for 216 yards
Dixon from LaGrange makes a case in this group especially if you look at his yards per carry.

Huntingdon WR Porter has 45 catches, 76 yards per game, and 12 TDs
In my opinion he is the best WR in the conference and there aren't any real good arguments to add anyone else although McNeil from Methodist leads the conference in receptions and yards per game.

Averett RB/RS/AP Tapscott has 109 rushes, 59 rushing yards per game, 9 rushing TDs, 18 receptions for 159 yards to go along with 2 TDs, 10 kick returns for an average of 44 yards per and 2 more TDs.  The total TDs of 13 leads the conference.

There is still one more week to play and add to resumes but if it were to end today I would give the nod to Wright from Averett.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AU12345 on November 12, 2019, 07:36:15 AM
From what I heard from people on the team was that Wright's Jersey was ripped late in the second quarter and we had to find a replacement jersey and that's all we had.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AU12345 on November 15, 2019, 09:41:16 AM
Happy Friday everyone

Here are my predictions for the week

1.Maryville @ NC Wesleyan (Wesleyan wins 28-14)

Wesleyan finishes the year strong with a dominant win vs the Scots.

2.Huntingdon @ Lagrange (Huntingdon wins 49-17)

The Hawks will get a big win vs the panthers heading into the playoffs where they'll most likely face Berry in the first round, if they win that matchup they'll probably have to head to TX and face #1 Mary Hardin-Baylor in round two where they'll get bounced out there

3.Brevard @ Greensboro (Brevard wins 28-3)

Brevard is going to establish their presence in the conference this week heading into next season where i assume they'll be the preseason #1 team with most of their team returning and their QB only being a junior next season.

4.Methodist @ Averett (Averett wins 24-14)

Yes I predict us to win this game but I wouldn't be surprised if Methodist comes out with a little extra fire underneath them to spoil our senior day. Heading into next season the Cougars are going to remain right where they are right now. We'll finish the season with around 130 people on the team which is unheard of for D3 football, we'll also return a little over half on defense with only losing 1 senior on our dominant DL. On offense we'll return everyone but both our tackles, QB, and starting RB. The receiver core lost Isaiah Grice after week 5 with a torn PCL who was posed to have a dominant junior season but redshirted this year and will now have two more years of eligibility and will now graduate with receivers Nixon and Mosby who may be the receiver best duo in the conference.

My predictions for awards will go as followed:

OPOTY- Jacob Wright Averett
DPOTY- Antonio Johnson, NC Wesleyan
SOTY- Cole Westberry, Averett
Coach of the Year- Mike Turk, Huntingdon
OROTY- Terron Dixon, Lagrange / Brandon Bullins, Methodist
DROTY- Jonathon Terrell, Averett / Rook Tate, Brevard

My WAY TOO EARLY pre-season predictions for next season:
1. Brevard
2. Averett
3. Huntingdon
4. NC Wesleyan
5. Lagrange
6. Methodist
7. Maryville
8. Greensboro

Good luck to everyone and their respective teams this week
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 16, 2019, 07:44:43 PM
Very pleased with the performance today. After a nice TD drive on our first possession the offense kind of scuffled for a while but the defense stood out shutting LC down getting mostly 3 and outs until the offense got moving again in the 2nd quarter to pull away somewhat. The two long TD's that LC got in the 3rd made things a little un-easy for a bit but the D got it back together and we were able to get a couple of TD's to ice it and get our 4th conference title in 5 years.
Expecting to go to Berry next but will be fun where ever we go.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 16, 2019, 08:08:07 PM
 :D
Go Hawks

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 16, 2019, 09:11:55 PM
At least one of the Alabama teams was able to beat a Georgia team today. ;)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 16, 2019, 10:20:08 PM
"At least one of the Alabama teams was able to beat a Georgia team today. "
Tru Dat
I'd rather HC beat LC any time  :)..... so, for me, it went well. of course with no disrespect nor attempting to disparage LC, in any way :)
:)
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 16, 2019, 10:21:01 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 18, 2019, 12:27:40 PM
4 for 4 last week on picks.  2 games for conference teams this weekend with big stakes on both. 
Starting off with the playoff match-up between Berry and Huntingdon.  These 2 teams have 3 common opponents.  Both beat LaGrange and Maryville and lost to Birmingham-Southern.  Huntingdon's loss to UW-Oskosh looks better after they upset UWW last weekend and made the playoffs.  The NCWC loss at home for Huntingdon is the real blemish to a good resume.  This will pit strength against strength with Huntingdon's offense against Berry's defense.  That will be fun to watch but I think Berry's offense will have success against the Hawk's defense.  I don't like to but I will take Berry for the win.
Secondly we have the make-up game between Shenandoah and Methodist.  The ODAV-vs-USAC overall record going into this game is 4-4.  Averett went 2-1, NCWC went 1-1, Huntingdon 1-0, Greensboro 0-1, and Methodist currently sits at 0-1.  Shenandoah is at 5-4 and finished in 5th in the ODAC.  Methodist is at 4-5 and T5th in the USAC.  I unfortunately think that this will be a lopsided affair in favor of the Hornets.  There are two common opponents in NCWC and Guilford on both teams resume.  Shenandoah beat both teams and Methodist lost to both teams.  The forecast in Winchester for Saturday is a high of 41 with possible rain/snow showers.  I believe I may have made mention when the game was announced to be rescheduled for this weekend that this would be a possibility.  The Monarchs from SC, GA, and FL will have a tough time with the weather and if things do not go well early this game could get out of hand.  Shenandoah wins and the ODAC yet again wind the OOC battle 5-4

AU I like all of your end of year picks but I will throw Bill Khayat's name in the coach of the year from Brevard.  He took the Tornados from 4-6 last year to 7-2 this season and were picked to finish 6th in the conference this year.  Had it not been for the head scratching loss to Methodist they would have a piece of the conference title this year.  I also would not be surprised if he was courted for another job.  He worked at Tennessee State University from 2000-2003 and again from 2013-2015.  He also had some time in the NFL with the Cardinals and the Redskins from 2004-2009.  He had a stint in the UFL and at a JC.  This is his first head coaching job and he is only 46 years old.  If he and his family are content living in the mountains of NC (which I would be) then maybe they have found a permanent home.  If not this may just be the start of his coaching career.  I will also throw Taj Outten from Methodist in the list for potential def roy with 52 total tackles, 2 picks, and 1 TD.  Also I would include Tapscott from Averett along with Westberry for STPOY.  I'm not sure it is easily accessible but I would love to know Averett's average starting field position after a kickoff.  Tapscott averaged 40 yards per return on 11 tries and 2 TDs.  How many times did a kick go out of bounds to avoid him or kicked short?  If Westberry had been more consistent on his FGs I don't think there is any debate.  His punting and kickoffs are very strong as well as 96% on XP.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 18, 2019, 12:40:48 PM
Did Brevard get an ECAC game or have they been announced yet? Looking at the list of teams signed up, it would be a pretty long trip for somebody.

Edit: Just found it. Brevard goes to Carnegie Mellon.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: hasanova on November 19, 2019, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 18, 2019, 12:40:48 PM
Did Brevard get an ECAC game or have they been announced yet? Looking at the list of teams signed up, it would be a pretty long trip for somebody.

Edit: Just found it. Brevard goes to Carnegie Mellon.
Pittsburgh.  Good luck Brevard and Huntingdon this weekend.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 19, 2019, 02:32:36 PM
Never mind defensive ROY is Randy Fillingame from LaGrange.  He is the Panthers leading tackler on the year with 79.  He also had 1 sack, 5 TFL, 2 FF, and 2 INT.

I'll take Brevard to beat Carnegie Mellon with the winning score below 20 points.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 19, 2019, 03:40:33 PM
Alright AU I gave the way to early 2020 prediction a shot as well.  I looked at the rosters and made the assumption that all the players who contributed statistically (a big sorry to the OL I did not look at listed starters to see who would be returning) as well as the head coaches.  Here is how I think they stack up next season:

1. Brevard- They are only losing 1 SR WR, 1 SR DL, and 1 SR DB.  The QB will be a JR with 2 full years starting experience.  They are returning 16 of their top 18 defensive players which includes a stacked secondary.  Their top 3 runners will be JRs or SOs next season offensively.
2. Huntingdon- They will be hit hard by graduation offensively with the QB, top 4 WRs, and the top HB.  They will also suffer losses along the defensive front with 2 SRs.  Their top RB will be a SR next year and a rising SO saw some time in the backfield but there are 3 SR RBs that will be missed.  I think the strength of this team will be on the defensive side of the field especially until the new starter gets up to speed.
3. Methodist- I don't think that this is a homer pick (at least I hope not).  They are returning the rising SO QB who will have started 9 games after this weekend.  He will also have his top 3 WRs back.  The offense will lose the top 2 RBs to graduation but will return at least 8 players up front who had starting/playing experience.  The defense will lose the starting 2 inter DL and 2 secondary players but return 14 out of the top 18 players including the best safety, ILB, OLB, and DE.  The kicker, punter, and best returner are back also.
4. Averett- Graduation will hit the Cougars hard on the offensive side with the SR QB and top 3 RBs leaving.  On defense the top LB and most of the secondary are moving on.  All of the WRs will be back and the majority of the DL.  I also believe that the loss of the SR K/P will show as there is typically not a lot of depth at any level of football at those positions.
5. Maryville- The offense was a mess at times this year.  They are returning 3 QBs that played who will all be rising JRs so hopefully the spring will get that position sorted out.  They are returning the best RB in the conference but losing a starting WR and TE.  Defensively they are losing 8 of the top 18 players including 3 up front and 4 on the back end.  They will also be looking for new specialists in 2020.
6. LaGrange- They are returning what will likely be the offensive ROY in the conference and perhaps the defensive ROY.  They also started multiple QBs in 2019 and will have a rising SR, JR, and SO to pick from during spring ball.  All of the WRs will be there for the QB to throw to as well.
7. NCWC- I think these guys are hit the hardest by graduation.  On offense the QB, TE, 2 RB, and 4 out of 5 OL (I knew their starting 5 from looking at it prior to MU homecoming).  They are returning a rising SR RB and 3 rising JR WRs along with one SR OL.  The defense is losing 3 out of 4 DL, the top to LB, and 2 SR DBs.  There will be some returning players in the secondary.
8. Greensboro- They are losing their best player Bagley in the secondary and returning kicks.  They are returning their 2 best LBers

The offseason conditioning program, spring ball, retention, and recruiting will play a big hand in who will come out on top in 2020.  This year with there being so much turnover (top three teams and graduation) I'm not sure where we will end up in November next year.  This was the 20th season of USAC football this year and so far we have had 8 teams win or share the conference title.  Gone are CNU with 10 titles, Ferrum with 4, and Shenandoah with 2.  Remaining are Huntingdon with 4, Maryville with 4, NCWC with 3, Methodist with 2, and Averett with one.  Only Huntingdon (4 times), Maryville (twice), and NCWC (twice) have been to the playoffs. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 21, 2019, 10:50:57 AM
The all-conference team came out yesterday and there were not very many surprises in my eyes other than a WR winning offensive POY.  It happened once previously in 2015 but Malik Adams from NCWC had over 1,300 receiving yards and 19 TDs that year.  That award has gone to a QB or a RB every other time.  I can't say that I really have a strong argument against Porter though.  Averett led the way with 12 total selections 9 of them being 1st team.  They were followed by NCWC, Huntingdon, and Maryville with 9 selections each.  NCWC had 7 of those selections on the 1st team.  Methodist had 6, Brevard had 4, and LaGrange had 3 (also the defensive ROY who did not make 1st or 2nd team).  Greensboro was shut out.  Averett, Huntingdon, Methodist, and Brevard are each bringing back 4 all-conference players for 2020.  NCWC and Maryville bring back 3 each and LaGrange will have 2.  A few players to watch out for in 2020 are:
Running back- Thomas from Huntingdon is a rising SR
Running back- Brunch from Maryville is a rising JR
Wide Receiver- Mosby from Averett is a rising JR
Wide Receiver- Roberts from NCWC is a rising JR
Offensive Line- Hixon from Huntingdon is a rising JR (1st team as a SO so he must be the real deal)
Defensive Line- Ledbetter from Averett is a rising JR and I believe is only 1.5 sacks away from tying the Averett career record and he could flirt with the conference record of 39 if he progresses
Linebacker- Caldwell from Huntingdon is a rising SR
Defensive Back- Anderson from Brevard is a rising SR
Defensive Back- Graham from NCWC is a rising SR
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on November 22, 2019, 09:33:49 AM
Looks like it is going to be a rainy day tomorrow.  Wishing good travel to Rome for the Huntingdon team and fans.

I hope to see a big crowd, but I know this rain will keep some fans away.

It is going to be a tough game, and you never know about football when it is wet.  Anything can happen.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MUC57 on November 22, 2019, 09:49:15 AM

Berry College fans

Good luck tomorrow. Nice to see "one of the new kids" doing well. Wish the very best to the Vikings.   ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 22, 2019, 06:44:53 PM
BerryCollegeFan
Not sure if i'm gonna drive over, and up :) , but I pray it will be a good game in Valhalla.
I hope the Hawks will play well, and I know Berry will do the same
Keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 23, 2019, 02:46:14 PM
Go Hawks :)
Great win
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 23, 2019, 08:46:44 PM
What a terrific game. Really proud of the way these guys fought today. Outside of the first TD drive our offense had a hard time getting anything going in the first half but our defense did a great job keeping things close until we could make a couple of big plays in the second half.
A second trip to UMHB means we will need to execute better on offense to put up some kind of challenge. Looking forward to seeing what we can do.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 23, 2019, 09:08:46 PM
The game today and the Hendrix game (I went to that one in Montgomery) both 'felt' like we were going to win early on ???
I will try to watch the Belton Tejas game.
If you go, let us know

Todays teams were well matched. The post game news conf with Berry's head coach , QB and star LB was really neat. I did not expect the interception, but I really didn't think they would score ???

Berry has a really good program. I hope we will have to opportunity to see them again next year, as this is a good rivalry.

have a wonderful Thanksgiving Hawks and keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 24, 2019, 10:56:36 AM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 23, 2019, 09:08:46 PM
The game today and the Hendrix game (I went to that one in Montgomery) both 'felt' like we were going to win early on ???
I will try to watch the Belton Tejas game.
If you go, let us know

Todays teams were well matched. The post game news conf with Berry's head coach , QB and star LB was really neat. I did not expect the interception, but I really didn't think they would score ???

Berry has a really good program. I hope we will have to opportunity to see them again next year, as this is a good rivalry.

have a wonderful Thanksgiving Hawks and keep the faith
Hey, you know me. I'm all about a road trip! ;)

On the interception I was wondering what a d-lineman was doing out where he was to make that play. From the HC post game news conference, that was his assignment on that play, follow the RB to the flats. Ball came right to him. Awesome.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 24, 2019, 01:06:50 PM
Hawks
I watched the press conf 2x about his description. He looks sorta like a 1/2 DE and an old time 'Monster' hybrid. He was assigned it, even Turk said that. Was there a clip . or post interception holding or excessive celebration ???
I think the Hawks are 2-1 against SAA in post season play now, but could be wrong ?

If you travel, yall be safe.
The Cru is and has been the real deal for a long while. I hope the Hawks can show up and play well.
Have a Glorious Thanksgiving
Keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on November 25, 2019, 09:34:29 AM
Congratulations to Huntingdon for a great game plan.

It is obvious you guys have had plenty of experience in the rain this year.  Very good execution in some tough weather.

Great crowd, I hope they enjoyed the experience in Rome.

Good Luck this Saturday.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 25, 2019, 01:58:15 PM
BerryCollegeFan
We enjoy the rivalry
it is back and forth since yall started
Berry will always have place in my heart. I was raised just down 27 from yall, and am now cattle farmer (retired large animal Vet)
The folk at Berry College have always been good to us.
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 25, 2019, 04:56:28 PM
Right now the weather forecast is 40% rain and thunderstorms for Belton Saturday. The rain I'm okay with, we've done will in the rain this year. The thunderstorms part, I don't like so much.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 25, 2019, 05:37:47 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 25, 2019, 04:56:28 PM
Right now the weather forecast is 40% rain and thunderstorms for Belton Saturday. The rain I'm okay with, we've done will in the rain this year. The thunderstorms part, I don't like so much.
Forecasts I'm looking at right now have rain ending before noon, hope that stays the case.

That said, Texas thunderstorms this time of year usually aren't much to worry about.   Not a lot of moisture in this system so you're looking at a half-inch or less combined Friday and Saturday.   Safe travels to your men and anyone making the trip to Central Texas.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: umhb2001 on November 27, 2019, 09:40:26 AM
Looking forward to this game. I watched the whole game from Saturday and it seems that Huntingdon has a strong running back and a tough defensive line. UMHB has struggled to run against disciplined defensive lines this year. I think they give in a little too soon. From watching the game, it looks as if the secondary of the hawks is susceptible and that may be where we attack. Any thoughts from the fans who have seen Huntingdon play more than I have?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 27, 2019, 12:53:48 PM
umhb2001
"it looks as if the secondary of the hawks is susceptible and that may be where we attack' That will probably be the case.

We are proud of the Hawks, but....... yall tend to hav been in a different class. I thought yall won the Stagg bowl against Mount Union way way back, when yalls backer picked up a fumble near the goal line and ran it back. I still remember it :)
I pray the Hawks will show up, and play the best game they are capable

Keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: umhb2001 on November 27, 2019, 02:11:13 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 27, 2019, 12:53:48 PM
umhb2001
"it looks as if the secondary of the hawks is susceptible and that may be where we attack' That will probably be the case.

We are proud of the Hawks, but....... yall tend to hav been in a different class. I thought yall won the Stagg bowl against Mount Union way way back, when yalls backer picked up a fumble near the goal line and ran it back. I still remember it :)
I pray the Hawks will show up, and play the best game they are capable

Keep the faith

We beat Oshkosh in '16 and Mount in '18. In '04, we played Mount in the semis up in Alliance and beat them in a last second play in the snow.

Will you be coming to the game?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 28, 2019, 08:06:15 PM
I'm going.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 29, 2019, 11:11:30 AM
Nice article about Otis Porter being able to return this season. Turned out to be the one good thing about that Guilford game being cancelled last year as I don't know if he would have gotten to if that game had counted.

https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/huntingdon-college/2019/11/28/oh-no-otis-porter-return-boon-huntingdon-hawks-mary-hardin-baylor/4324109002/
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 29, 2019, 11:44:45 AM
Hawks
yall be safe, have fun :)

umhb2001
My bad... it was 04 against Linfield. Yall had a backer that scooped a bal up near the goal line and ran it back. I really thought yall had won, but not the case, as I remember it was ruled a TD for linfield... but... my memory is not as it use to be :)
I am staying home for this one
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: umhb2001 on November 29, 2019, 01:11:37 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 29, 2019, 11:44:45 AM
Hawks
yall be safe, have fun :)

umhb2001
My bad... it was 04 against Linfield. Yall had a backer that scooped a bal up near the goal line and ran it back. I really thought yall had won, but not the case, as I remember it was ruled a TD for linfield... but... my memory is not as it use to be :)
I am staying home for this one
keep the faith

No worries!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on November 29, 2019, 01:25:27 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 29, 2019, 11:44:45 AM
Hawks
yall be safe, have fun :)

umhb2001
My bad... it was 04 against Linfield. Yall had a backer that scooped a bal up near the goal line and ran it back. I really thought yall had won, but not the case, as I remember it was ruled a TD for linfield... but... my memory is not as it use to be :)
I am staying home for this one
keep the faith

My son was that linebacker and still swears he pulled the ball from Elliott's hands before he crossed the goalline.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 30, 2019, 02:15:10 PM
You have no chance when you turn it over 4 times in the first half. We're lucky it isn't worse than it is.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: umhb2001 on November 30, 2019, 04:14:56 PM
Good game, Hawks. Stiff run D. Good luck next year.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BerryCollegeFan on November 30, 2019, 05:12:46 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 30, 2019, 02:15:10 PM
You have no chance when you turn it over 4 times in the first half. We're lucky it isn't worse than it is.
Yep, needed a clean game and the turnovers spelled doom early.  Congrats Hawks on a good season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 30, 2019, 07:41:27 PM
BerryCollegeFan
Thanks, Hope to see yall again next year (other than just the preseason scrimmage)
Congrats on yall's season as well
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 30, 2019, 07:43:32 PM
roocru
we sat with yall at a Stagg in Va 2007 or 8
he told us about it
Congrats on the win today, wish we could have made it a game
Hope yall win the Stagg... AGAIN :)
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: roocru on November 30, 2019, 08:16:28 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 30, 2019, 07:43:32 PM
roocru
we sat with yall at a Stagg in Va 2007 or 8
he told us about it
Congrats on the win today, wish we could have made it a game
Hope yall win the Stagg... AGAIN :)
keep the faith

I remember! I was impressed with the Hawks physical play. Easy to see how you guys got to the second round. Good luck next season!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 30, 2019, 08:47:49 PM
:), keep the faith Coach
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on December 01, 2019, 08:39:40 AM
Except for the long pass plays in the 2nd quarter I was very happy with how our defense performed yesterday. UMHB just has too many great athletes on their defense so we never were able to mount anything consistently on offense. We knew that we would have to play a clean game on offense to have a shot and the 4 turnovers early(3 in the 1st qtr) put a hit on that. Two of those picks were outstanding plays by the defender though so give them credit.
We lose a lot on offense but I feel really good about our defense for next year as we only had a few seniors on that side of the ball.

One note on our trip, on our way back towards Dallas yesterday we stopped in West at Slovacek's and picked up some kolaches. I just warmed up a chopped brisket one in the microwave and that thing was awesome. Highly recommend.  :)

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on December 01, 2019, 01:39:16 PM
So glad yall made it there and back safe, with good food :)

keep the faith my friend
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on December 05, 2019, 12:47:11 PM
Congrats to LaGrange SR DB Peyton Haynes and NCWC JR DB Eddie Graham for making it on the AFCA All-American Teams.  Haynes on the 1st team and Graham on the 3rd team.  Also big Congrats to the Hawks for a big 1st round win in the playoffs as well as Congrats to the Tornados ECAC Bowl win.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on December 10, 2019, 12:58:46 PM
10 USAC players made the all-south region team.  Huntingdon led the way with 4 players followed by 3 from NCWC, 2 from Averett, and one from LaGrange.  Huntingdon returns 3 players to next years team. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on December 11, 2019, 01:11:09 PM
Looks like Southern Virginia to USA South is official.

https://twitter.com/usa_south/status/1204795024967454720
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on December 11, 2019, 03:56:49 PM
If anyone out there is looking for a challenge Greensboro College is looking for a new head coach.  At this point the problem cannot be the football program or the coaching staff it must be a school issue.  Over 20 years playing football and the best anyone has done is a .500 season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: AU12345 on January 13, 2020, 04:40:43 PM
Happy but late new year everyone, got some news that might be worth sharing/noting. Averett has lost sophomore DL Joseph Ledbetter to D2 Barton where former Averett DC Trieston Brunette now coaches. However, Averett brought back seniors Connor Showalter (LB), Devin Merritt (DL), and Hunter Crews (DL) for their 5th years on the defensive side of the ball. On the offensive side Averett added D2 transfer from VSU Te'varius Brooks to play either QB or WR (I think he'll play AB since that is what he did at VSU, but have heard talks about him being an athlete they use all over the field).

Also not sure if you all have taken a peek at next years schedule but they have changed the conference schedule around. We have a pretty big test the first 2-3 weeks of the season playing the front runners of the conference but personally I'd rather play them earlier in the year while we are fully healthy. What are y'all's thoughts about your respective schedules for 2020?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on January 14, 2020, 11:27:35 AM
I only find Averette and NC Wesleyan schedules posted yet. The calendar on HC's school website has Homecoming 10/24 and preview days on 10/10 and 11/14 so it's safe to say those are the three conference home dates with Brevard, Greensboro, and LaGrange in some order(I assume the home/aways from last year are flipped and no changes made there). With trips to Averette on 10/17 and NCW on 10/31, that leaves 10/3 and 11/7 for the trips to Maryville and Methodist. AU has Maryville 10/3 so I guess that means we have Methodist then and Maryville 11/3. I like the November trip to Maryville, cool weather, leaves changing, and all that. Averette is the one place in the conference that I haven't been yet so will likely try to make that trip. We had planned to go in '18 but stuff at work got in the way.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on January 24, 2020, 10:49:10 AM
Methodist 2020 schedule is up on their website now.  They have the same out of conference opponents as last year.  The will play home first against Shenandoah at home which will be a tough test.  Last year the game got out of hand due to a few things one of which was the long got hurt in that Thursday practice.  The backup sent a snap over the punters head and a another bad snap led directly to a block and a TD.  The next two games are very winnable at Guilford and at Catholic.  The bye comes before conference play and Huntington and Maryville come to Fayetteville back to back weeks.  Next away to LaGrange and if that RB is back that will be no cake walk.  Averett is homecoming.  Halloween night  in the mountains against the Tornados is the toughest road game by far.  Greensboro home then NCWC on the road to finish.  On paper it sets up well.  Hopefully recruiting and spring conditioning are moving things in a direction to build off of last season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on February 03, 2020, 03:35:44 PM
Greensboro College announced last week that they have hired a new coach, Tyler Card.  He is a 2010 graduate of Southern Virginia.  Looks like he is originally from Utah but is well traveled.  He coached at SVU for a few years then went to Weber State (UT) then to Pace (NY).  He has spent the past 5 years at Sul Ross State in TX.  He was the OC for the last 3 years.  He has an OL background which I always appreciate.  I wish him and the Pride the best of luck this season (with the exception of 11/7 against the Monarchs). 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on February 07, 2020, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on February 03, 2020, 03:35:44 PM
Greensboro College announced last week that they have hired a new coach, Tyler Card.  He is a 2010 graduate of Southern Virginia.  Looks like he is originally from Utah but is well traveled.  He coached at SVU for a few years then went to Weber State (UT) then to Pace (NY).  He has spent the past 5 years at Sul Ross State in TX.  He was the OC for the last 3 years.  He has an OL background which I always appreciate.  I wish him and the Pride the best of luck this season (with the exception of 11/7 against the Monarchs).
Sul Ross!?!  He's gonna get claustrophobic from all of the trees. LOL
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on March 05, 2020, 05:00:32 PM
So I may be getting a little ahead of my self but I am optimistic about where the Monarchs could be for the next 3 years.  It has always been a cycle of get a really good QB and suffer through the lumps his FR and SO years and then reap the rewards his JR and SR years.  The problem has been when the good FR doesn't make it to his senior year (see Parks/DeGroot).  Here is what I have seen since 2002 (I know that the starter may have been injured and someone else played but these were the full time starters):

2002-2005 starting QB Chris Roncketti 3-7, 4-5, 7-3, 8-2 (share of conference title)
2006-2007 starting QB Brandon Parks 4-6 FR, 4-6 SO and then unfortunately transferred to Florida State as a walk on.  He actually dressed for some home games as a RS SR but never saw the field.  I believe there would have been a conference title his JR or SR year.
2008-2009 starting QB Erik Teague 2-8 JR, 3-7 SR.  Sadly for Erik there were other issues with the team and though he was a good QB he was not good enough to overcome some of the talent deficiencies at other positions.
2010 starting QB Travis Murphy 2-8 SO.  He was beat out by a FR the next season but could have been a solid starter by his SR year
2011-2014 starting QB Max Reber 3-7, 5-5, 8-2 (share of conference title), 6-4.  Max's SR year he lost his top WR the year prior and also the defense lost the starting nose guard that made the odd front work because he was an absolute monster.  Still I think the record in 2014 could have been better.
2015 starting QB Dylan DeGroot 4-6 FR.  Unfortunately due to personal reasons he left but boy I would have loved to watch him for three more years.  He was talented enough to elevate others and a conference title his JR or SR year would not have been out of the question.
2016 starting QB Xavier Adams 3-6 RS SR who transferred to Methodist.  Not a bad player but could not elevate the talent around him.
2017-2018 starting QB Steve Keoni 2-8 SO, 2-7 JR  He was not a bad player but had some arm limitations.  The offense also hung their hat on the run game his 2 seasons as a starter.
2019 starting QB Brandon Bullins 4-6 FR.  He has tons of talent and upside in my opinion and had a pretty decent year also.  If he stays the next three years I believe the sky's the limit.

The trick is to have a QB waiting ready to go after the SR leaves but as we see with all levels of college football if the guy isn't starting he looks for other opportunities.  That is the trickiest position in football because there is only one.  All other positions rotate or have multiple players at that position on the field at the same time.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on March 17, 2020, 03:51:39 PM
The USAC turned 20 this past season.  I looked back at the top teams, top players, and top coaches.  I limited it to conference champs for the teams.  I limited it to POY or 1st team All Americans on d3 football site.  For the coaches I looked at the COY.

TEAMS:
1. 2015 Huntingdon 10-2 overall 7-0 in conference and made it to the second round of the playoffs
2. 2007 NCWC 9-3 overall 7-0 in conference and made it to the second round of the playoffs
3. 2004 CNU 9-3 overall 5-1 in conference and made it to the second round of the playoffs
4. 2005 Ferrum 9-2 overall 6-1 in conference and lost in the first round of the playoffs
5. 2017 Huntingdon 9-2 overall 7-0 in conference and lost in the first round of the playoffs
HM 2014 CNU 8-4 and lost in the second round of the playoffs
HM 2019 Huntingdon 8-4 and lost in the second round of the playoffs

Players:

Offense:
1. Marcus Mayo QB from Ferrum.  OPOY in 2010 and 2011 who was also a punt returner.  He was scary looking also.
2. Tunde Ogun RB from CNU.  2008 OPOY in conference and south region and a 1st team All American.  He was a D1 transfer and it showed.
3. Cedric Townsend QB from NCWC.  OPOY in 2006 and 2007.  Took NCWC to 2nd round of the playoffs.
4. Brian Mann RB from Ferrum.  OPOY in 2017 and would have likely repeated but Ferrum left for the ODAC his JR year.
5. Chris Roncketti QB from Methodist.  OPOY in 2005 and helped win a share of the conference title that year.
HM Malik Adams WR from NCWC.  OPOY in 2015 and owns most career yards and TDs in the conference

Defense:
1. Montel Lee DL from Ferrum.  DPOY in 2016 and 2017.  Owns conference record 39 career sacks.
2. Darren Venable DB from Ferrum.  DPOY in 2003 and 2004.  He played what they called the PIG in their defense and they moved him all over the field.
3. Antonio Johnson LB from NCWC.  DPOY in 2018 and 2019.  All around impressive stats but watch the games and he was always around the ball.
4. Rob Rodriguez DB from CNU.  DPOY in 2005 and 1st team All American in 2006.
5. Andre Carter LB from LaGrange.  DPOY in 2012 and 2013.  He seemed to be angry all the time.
HM DJ Chappell DL from Huntingdon.  1st team All American in 2012 and nearly impossible to block

Coach:
1. Matt Kelchner from CNU 7 time coach of the year
2. Mike Turk from Huntingdon 4 time coach of the year
I put Jim Sypult (19 years) from Methodist and Dan Davis (17 years) from Ferrum in the list also as long time coaches at their respective schools
I put Jack Ginn from NCWC and Mike Rader from Maryville in the list of coaches who in Ginn's case started the program or in Rader's case revived a program.  Both coaches parlayed their success into a job at scholarship programs
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 18, 2020, 09:55:54 PM
Huntingdon has their schedule up now. I assume this will be the last game of the series with Guilford, the second half of the home-and-home with Oshkosh, and the nice November trip to Murvul. Hope we get to play them. Go Hawks!

9/5      at Guilford             
9/12      vs. Birmingham-Southern       
9/19      vs. UW-Oshkosh         
10/3      at Methodist *             
10/10   vs. Greensboro *       
10/17   at Averett *             
10/24   vs. Brevard *             
10/31   at N.C. Wesleyan *          
11/7      at Maryville (Tenn.) *          
11/14   vs. LaGrange *          
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 30, 2020, 11:09:10 PM
Adams leaves Averett to accept job at Ferrum - https://www.d3football.com/notables/2020/03/adams-returns-home-to-coach-alma-mater-ferrum

Henry promoted to head coach at Averett - https://www.d3football.com/notables/2020/03/henry-promoted-after-adams-leaves-averett
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on May 06, 2020, 02:29:38 PM
Last week Huntingdon announced plans to begin fall classes two weeks early, Aug 10, and finish the semester the week before Thanksgiving. They also plan to hold the 2020 graduation commencement on Oct.10 coinciding with Homecoming which was rescheduled from Oct. 24. 
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: SticksSharpe1980 on May 19, 2020, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: narch on August 16, 2005, 08:18:36 AM
let's start this off right...GO MONARCHS!

Since this will be my first post I want to say GO Quakes!

pat, does d3sports.com mean we might get coverage of some other sports (ie: baseball?) - thanks...new boards look great!
Title: Re: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on May 19, 2020, 12:22:58 PM
Quote from: SticksSharpe1980 on May 19, 2020, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: narch on August 16, 2005, 08:18:36 AM
let's start this off right...GO MONARCHS!

Since this will be my first post I want to say GO Quakes!

pat, does d3sports.com mean we might get coverage of some other sports (ie: baseball?) - thanks...new boards look great!
Welcome Sticks. Glad to have you.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 14, 2020, 10:24:48 PM
This is a former Maryville player. Prayers to his and the Maryville families.

https://weartv.com/news/local/florida-fish-and-wildlife-officer-shot-and-killed-overnight
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 17, 2020, 10:12:36 AM
Huntingdon hires D.J. Barnett as their new D-Line coach. He was a D3football.com All-American for Huntingdon in 2012(as D.J. Chappell).

https://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2020-21/releases/20200616mh6fw5

Hawk'em!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: newscot09 on June 24, 2020, 11:52:44 AM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on March 17, 2020, 03:51:39 PM
The USAC turned 20 this past season.  I looked back at the top teams, top players, and top coaches.  I limited it to conference champs for the teams.  I limited it to POY or 1st team All Americans on d3 football site.  For the coaches I looked at the COY.

TEAMS:
1. 2015 Huntingdon 10-2 overall 7-0 in conference and made it to the second round of the playoffs
2. 2007 NCWC 9-3 overall 7-0 in conference and made it to the second round of the playoffs
3. 2004 CNU 9-3 overall 5-1 in conference and made it to the second round of the playoffs
4. 2005 Ferrum 9-2 overall 6-1 in conference and lost in the first round of the playoffs
5. 2017 Huntingdon 9-2 overall 7-0 in conference and lost in the first round of the playoffs
HM 2014 CNU 8-4 and lost in the second round of the playoffs
HM 2019 Huntingdon 8-4 and lost in the second round of the playoffs

Players:

Offense:
1. Marcus Mayo QB from Ferrum.  OPOY in 2010 and 2011 who was also a punt returner.  He was scary looking also.
2. Tunde Ogun RB from CNU.  2008 OPOY in conference and south region and a 1st team All American.  He was a D1 transfer and it showed.
3. Cedric Townsend QB from NCWC.  OPOY in 2006 and 2007.  Took NCWC to 2nd round of the playoffs.
4. Brian Mann RB from Ferrum.  OPOY in 2017 and would have likely repeated but Ferrum left for the ODAC his JR year.
5. Chris Roncketti QB from Methodist.  OPOY in 2005 and helped win a share of the conference title that year.
HM Malik Adams WR from NCWC.  OPOY in 2015 and owns most career yards and TDs in the conference

Defense:
1. Montel Lee DL from Ferrum.  DPOY in 2016 and 2017.  Owns conference record 39 career sacks.
2. Darren Venable DB from Ferrum.  DPOY in 2003 and 2004.  He played what they called the PIG in their defense and they moved him all over the field.
3. Antonio Johnson LB from NCWC.  DPOY in 2018 and 2019.  All around impressive stats but watch the games and he was always around the ball.
4. Rob Rodriguez DB from CNU.  DPOY in 2005 and 1st team All American in 2006.
5. Andre Carter LB from LaGrange.  DPOY in 2012 and 2013.  He seemed to be angry all the time.
HM DJ Chappell DL from Huntingdon.  1st team All American in 2012 and nearly impossible to block

Coach:
1. Matt Kelchner from CNU 7 time coach of the year
2. Mike Turk from Huntingdon 4 time coach of the year
I put Jim Sypult (19 years) from Methodist and Dan Davis (17 years) from Ferrum in the list also as long time coaches at their respective schools
I put Jack Ginn from NCWC and Mike Rader from Maryville in the list of coaches who in Ginn's case started the program or in Rader's case revived a program.  Both coaches parlayed their success into a job at scholarship programs


I would slide MC Scots 2013 into the mix 8-3 (6-1 Conference) and possibly RB Travis Felder 1242 yds, 5.6 ypc, 112 ypg, 22 td
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on June 25, 2020, 03:26:07 PM
2013 Maryville was a good squad.  That may have been one of the more impressive seasons the conference had as a whole (on the top end).  You had (8-2) CNU, (8-2) Methodist, and (7-3) Huntingdon to go alone with the Scots.  Offensive production between Huntingdon, LaGrange, Marville, and Methodist you could find at least one or in some cases multiple names in the top 10-20 in the nation.  Huntingdon had the most total yards per game followed by Methodist.  Maryville had the 8th most rushing yards per game.  LaGrange had the number one passing offense.  Somehow with all that CNU was 7th in the country in scoring defense with the rest of the conferences output.  Maryville just ran into a bit of bad luck with Hampden-Sydney and Nash Nance/Holton Walker QB/WR duo in the first round of the playoffs.

Maryville lost to Emory & Henry, Huntingdon, and Hampden-Sydney
Methodist lost to Emory & Henry and Maryville
CNU lost to Methodist and Maryville (but beat Hampden-Sydney earlier in the season)
Huntingdon lost to Wesley, LaGrange, and Methodist

And Felder was a heck of a player I'm not sure he made the cutoff of POY or All American.  One thing I have always been curious how much the scheme makes a difference for Maryville's running backs.  The offense that Coach Hayes runs is built of the foundation that Coach Rader brought with him in 2011.  Since then Felder, Shuler, Chenier, and Bunch have all topped 1,000 yards rushing on the season.  All 4 were great individual players but is it the X's and O's or the Jimmies and Joes so to speak.  It's fun to watch the O-line mess with their splits based on the play/defensive front.  Rader was also one of the first to bring in the RPO as a main part of the offense and not just a change up.  The threat that the screen/pass game added made for very light box counts which obviously helps the run. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 25, 2020, 04:34:33 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on June 25, 2020, 03:26:07 PM
2013 Maryville was a good squad.  That may have been one of the more impressive seasons the conference had as a whole (on the top end).  You had (8-2) CNU, (8-2) Methodist, and (7-3) Huntingdon to go alone with the Scots.  Offensive production between Huntingdon, LaGrange, Marville, and Methodist you could find at least one or in some cases multiple names in the top 10-20 in the nation.  Huntingdon had the most total yards per game followed by Methodist.  Maryville had the 8th most rushing yards per game.  LaGrange had the number one passing offense.  Somehow with all that CNU was 7th in the country in scoring defense with the rest of the conferences output.  Maryville just ran into a bit of bad luck with Hampden-Sydney and Nash Nance/Holton Walker QB/WR duo in the first round of the playoffs.

Maryville lost to Emory & Henry, Huntingdon, and Hampden-Sydney
Methodist lost to Emory & Henry and Maryville
CNU lost to Methodist and Maryville (but beat Hampden-Sydney earlier in the season)
Huntingdon lost to Wesley, LaGrange, and Methodist

And Felder was a heck of a player I'm not sure he made the cutoff of POY or All American.  One thing I have always been curious how much the scheme makes a difference for Maryville's running backs.  The offense that Coach Hayes runs is built of the foundation that Coach Rader brought with him in 2011.  Since then Felder, Shuler, Chenier, and Bunch have all topped 1,000 yards rushing on the season.  All 4 were great individual players but is it the X's and O's or the Jimmies and Joes so to speak.  It's fun to watch the O-line mess with their splits based on the play/defensive front.  Rader was also one of the first to bring in the RPO as a main part of the offense and not just a change up.  The threat that the screen/pass game added made for very light box counts which obviously helps the run.
It was amazing how Huntingdon put up those offensive numbers in 2013 with rotating QB's. Ryne Taylor and Taylor Hughes swapped in and out every two posessions all year. Check out how close their Total Offense Yds ended up being with Taylor getting more pass yards and Hughes being the third leading rusher. Unfortunately we didn't play a lot of defense that year so 7-3(scored 40+ in two of the losses).

TOTAL OFFENSE    GP    Plays    Rush    Pass    Total    Avg/G
Taylor Hughes     10     193       407      1590    1997  199.7
Ryne Taylor        10      234       93       1857     1950 195.0
Garrett Fletcher    10    160       809        0        809    80.9
Austin Bennett     7      117       697        0        697    99.6
John Iwaniec     7         61        271        0        271    38.7

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on June 25, 2020, 04:58:32 PM
The Methodist -v- Huntingdon game that year was one of those games that the Hawks lost while putting up big offense.  There was a combined 1,144 yards of offense, 93 total points, 0 turnovers, only 6 negative yardage plays, and 152 total offensive/defensive plays.  The Monarchs converted more third and fourth downs.  That combined with a little better starting field position were the keys.  Also the Methodist QB throwing for 300 and running for 100 didn't hurt the cause

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on June 29, 2020, 01:46:43 PM
And if you were ever looking for a game in the USAC where I believe defense was optional look no further than the Monarchs final game of 2013 vs the Battling Bishops.

68 total first downs
178 offensive/defensive snaps
1,315 total offensive yards
131 total points (18 TDs and 2 FGs)
6 punts (3 by each team)
2 turnovers (1 by each team)

NCWC had 2 QB's play one threw for 190 and the other threw for 260
Methodist's starting QB was lost for the game early in the second period.  This was after leading the Monarch on 4 scoring drives in the first 4 possessions.
The backup came in and threw for 300 yards and 4 TDs.  The Monarchs backup QB was NCWC starting QB as a freshman in 2010 and was the offensive ROY that season in the conference.  Methodist was down 61-62 and scored with 23 seconds left on the clock and added the 2 point conversion to seal the 7 point win.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 08, 2020, 04:41:49 PM
I just saw a tweet that Averett is moving it's non-conf game with CNU back two weeks to 9/26. I guess the ODAC announcement last week wipes out all the week one games so this would get rid of their bye week and give them 9 games in 9 weeks. I wonder if Huntingdon and Birmingham-Southern does the same with their game since I don't think HC's other two non-conf games are happening, Guilford week one and UW-Oshkosh week three(I'm assuming they aren't getting on a plane), and both have that date open. That would give HC 8 games in 8 weeks. BSC still has the week one with LaGrange so they may not be into it unless they are willing to move their bye from week 4 to week 2. Either way hopefully HC can find a replacement for one of those games.
This all assumes we do actually have a season but does that tweet make it seem like the USA South is still planning to play at this point?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 09, 2020, 11:38:17 AM
Another Averett update. Ferrum game moved from week 1 to week 3. Salisbury game cancelled.

https://averettcougars.com/news/2020/7/8/football-announces-changes-to-non-conference-schedule.aspx
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 14, 2020, 01:45:54 PM
USA South plans to split all fall sports into divisions including football which will play home-and-home within divisions with a conference championship at the end. The article also mentions possible neutral site venues to avoid overnight travel. Non-conference will also be allowed so unless the SAA does something different we should still be able to play Birmingham-Southern.

https://www.huntingdonhawks.com/general/2020-21/releases/20200714k9zx3k

Go Hawkls!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 14, 2020, 01:50:53 PM
I assume football will be split into Brevard, Huntingdon, LaGrange, and Maryville in the west and Averett, Greensboro, Methodist, and NC Wesleyan in the east.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 15, 2020, 09:58:58 AM
This is the updated schedule that Huntingdon currently has posted(it actually still has the Guilford and Oshkosh games listed but that maybe because neither of those has updated their schedules). The other 'West' teams have updated theirs with the 6 conference games running from 9/19 to 10/24 but none of the 'East' teams have done theirs. I assume this gives the option to shift some games to later if they end up having to be delayed.

9/12   vs. Birmingham-Southern •   7:00 PM   
9/19   vs. LaGrange * •               TBA   
9/26   at Maryville (Tenn.) * •   2:00 PM   
10/3   at Brevard * •              TBA   
10/10   vs. Maryville (Tenn.) * •   2:00 PM   
10/17   at LaGrange * •            TBA   
10/24   vs. Brevard * •             TBA
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on July 15, 2020, 02:53:37 PM
If the season is played this way I believe the West division is considerably harder.  The tie break will be interesting since it will be possible for 2 (5-1) division winners who lost head to head.  The easiest tie break in that case might be margin of victory.  I wonder if they will play the conference championship at a central location?  I believe Brevard may make the most sense.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on July 22, 2020, 11:40:58 AM
Maryville has cancelled fall football. Uneasy about USASouth's decision to have a season and about whether it can be done wisely and safely.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 22, 2020, 03:17:27 PM
I'm just hoping for a spring season at this point, if the schools are able to handle it logistically.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on July 28, 2020, 02:03:19 PM
USA South officially throws in the towel on the Fall.

https://www.usasouth.net/general/2019-20/releases/20200721h1jgh9

Like many conferences, they are holding out hope for something in the Spring. Personally I think that is all smoke and mirrors other than extra practices and maybe a scrimmage or two, but who knows?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 29, 2020, 11:20:19 AM
We'll have to wait and see what fall and winter brings and whether we'll be able to have any sports at all in the spring. Unless you can work out a way to have a full conference season and 1 or 2 non-conference games to get to at least 8 or 9 games total then I would likely be for keeping to 5 or less to save eligibility. If that's where it ends up I could see us maybe having games against BSC and LaGrange and maybe meet Berry halfway at Heard Co., GA like we normally do for the pre-season scrimmage. Maybe a JV game against 1 or 2 of those to make sure younger guys get some game action too.

I assume you've seen that the AHSAA and AISA are trying to go ahead with football as scheduled. I just noticed that so far three county school systems have cancelled football; Greene County, Sumter County, and Barbour County. Barbour County is actually cancelling all sports for the year already. So the dominoes are starting to fall in the high schools too. I'm not optimistic that they're going to be able to pull off a season either.
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Post by: jknezek on July 29, 2020, 12:28:31 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on July 29, 2020, 11:20:19 AM
We'll have to wait and see what fall and winter brings and whether we'll be able to have any sports at all in the spring. Unless you can work out a way to have a full conference season and 1 or 2 non-conference games to get to at least 8 or 9 games total then I would likely be for keeping to 5 or less to save eligibility. If that's where it ends up I could see us maybe having games against BSC and LaGrange and maybe meet Berry halfway at Heard Co., GA like we normally do for the pre-season scrimmage. Maybe a JV game against 1 or 2 of those to make sure younger guys get some game action too.

I assume you've seen that the AHSAA and AISA are trying to go ahead with football as scheduled. I just noticed that so far three county school systems have cancelled football; Greene County, Sumter County, and Barbour County. Barbour County is actually cancelling all sports for the year already. So the dominoes are starting to fall in the high schools too. I'm not optimistic that they're going to be able to pull off a season either.

Yeah. I'll be surprised. But the head of the AHSAA has some political ambition and he knows cancelling football would probably put paid to that. So I suspect it will be a district by district decision.
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Post by: Hawks88 on August 29, 2020, 08:31:34 PM
Just noticed that Huntingdon has updated the roster. 131 total with 64 freshmen. I only count 9 seniors with some key names missing. I wonder how many are taking a gap year/semester.
Sure wishing I was getting ready to drive up to Greensboro next week.
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Post by: Scots13 on November 24, 2020, 01:10:31 PM
Long time, no post. But here's some news: Shaun Hayes resigned today. New president seems to be pro-athletics. Hopefully we get someone good.

On a related note, our volleyball coach/AD will become just a volleyball coach effective Nov 30. Hiring a full time AD. Thank. God.
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Post by: scottiedoug on November 28, 2020, 12:26:59 PM
New President, temporary AD, no football coach. What could go wrong?
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Post by: Scots13 on November 28, 2020, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on November 28, 2020, 12:26:59 PM
New President, temporary AD, no football coach. What could go wrong?

After a 3-7 season, what difference does it make?

Tom Bogart couldn't raise a dollar unless it was from someone's estate; from what I heard Hayes has been AWOL; Schram has been too worried about taking soccer teams to Italy and volleyball teams to Costa Rica to help give Cooper a facelift. The football locker room only has space for 60 guys...
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Post by: Highlander98 on December 03, 2020, 09:00:02 PM
Finally after many years, have joined the D3 board.....   Totally agree with everything Scots13 said.  Schram has been a terrible AD and don't know why she's still around as just the volleyball coach.  Need to let her go completely.  Hard to find any alum that wants her to stay at MC....   Any word on any candidates yet???
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Post by: Scots13 on December 04, 2020, 08:40:18 AM
Welcome 98.

No word on candidates yet, but they've seem to finalize the search committee.
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Post by: Scots13 on December 04, 2020, 08:06:55 PM
4 divisional games and a conference championship game this spring.
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Post by: Hawks88 on December 04, 2020, 09:03:47 PM
I hope it happens. I'm ready to see the Hawks play.

Meanwhile, Alabama high schools managed to make it all the way through their season with the championship games this week.
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Post by: Highlander98 on December 15, 2020, 08:46:52 AM
Lots of interest in the Maryville Head Coach position

https://footballscoop.com/news/a-d-iii-gem-is-drawing-interest-from-sec-coaches-former-nfl-players/
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Post by: scottiedoug on December 21, 2020, 04:00:33 PM
So why do football men think Schram should not be women's volleyball coach and based on what? No football coaches have a record anywhere as good as hers. Scots need to put their money where their mouths are if Cooper is going to get what it very much needs.
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Post by: Scots13 on December 21, 2020, 04:43:24 PM
Personally, I couldn't care less who the VB coach was. Schram's record is thanks to a terrible conference in the GSAC minus a handful of decent teams in the last 5-10 years.
The College needs to invest in athletics, first. Set the example.

The FB makes up roughly 10% of the student body. Budgets within the athletics department have not been reflective of that and should be. I'm not saying cut others, I'm saying show football the love it deserves...start with a new scoreboard that we don't have to worry if it'll work on game days.
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Post by: scottiedoug on December 22, 2020, 03:57:28 PM
It seems that Bryan Coker agrees with a lot of what you say here, at least about leading with athletics. As you know, MC grads are not usually rich. A fulltime AD makes sense, as does upgrading lots of facilities. All we need is money.
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on January 05, 2021, 03:21:40 PM
If my math is correct (50/50 shot) then training camps will open up in the USAC in 2 weeks.  The opening weekend of games are February 20th.  Everyone has there 4 game divisional schedule posted and all but Greensboro has updated their roster.  Here's what I have taken away:

I think Maryville got the shortest stick as far as the schedule goes.  They have Brevard twice and have to travel to Huntingdon.
I think Methodist got the best end of the schedule with Greensboro twice and Averett at home.
I also feel for the entire west division.  If the conference is still not allowing overnight trips for games then there are a few 5+ hour bus rides the day of these games.  The east has a 2 1/2 hour trip at worst.

It is hard to tell which players were just not retained or who opted out but after looking at the rosters I think the 2 divisions will shake out like this:

EAST
1. Methodist- Bring back SO QB who started all but one game last year.  Bring back the top 3 WRs, top TE, top HB, and top 4 OL.  The top 2 LBers and top 2 safeties are back.  There is some experience returning at DE.  Also returning are the kicker and punter.  They need to find out who is going to carry the rock on offense and who the interior DL are as well as the CBs.  Head coach and both coordinators are back

2. Averett- Bring back top 4 WRs but not much else on offense.  The defense brings back some solid players namely LB Showalter.  There are returning players at all levels of the D but the DE Ledbetter transferred.  The biggest question in my opinion is who is going to get the ball to their studs on O?  They did have transition on the coaching staff as Adams left for the Ferrum job but Henry was promoted from within.  The DC is the same and the OC is the Cougars former QB Brown who just came on staff sometime after last season.

3. NCWC- Bring back top RB and 2nd best WR.  All of the top production on defense is gone as well as their QB.  There does not appear to be any coaching staff turnover.  There are a lot of questions to answer.

4. Greensboro- I can say what they are bring back but this is the team in the East I feel the sorriest for.  Their new head coach was hired at the end of January last year.  I'm sure he was able to be around the kids some but there could not have been a lot accomplished in the spring.

WEST:
1. Brevard- Bring back JR QB who has started since he was a freshman.  They are bring back 4 of their top 5 RBs and 2 of their top 3 WRs.  They are bringing back 7 of their top 9 defensive players from last season including an all conference LB and DB.  There does not appear to be any staff turnover.  I can't see many holes here.

2. Huntingdon- Bring some talent at WR but graduated their best at that position.  They bring back a few players that made solid contributions on D.  The two things that stuck out on their roster were the absence of their best RB Thomas and LB Caldwell (I thought both were JRs).  The coaching staff appears intact.  If there is a staff that can figure this out I will give them a nod. 

3. Maryville- Brought back both QBs who started last year and one is now listed as a LBer.  There is some talent at WR returning.  They are bring back 3 top performers on defense 2 of which were all-conference last year.  They just had some coaching turnover to deal with but did promote an interim head coach from within.  I'm sure the schemes will stay similar.  Gone from the roster was their RB Bunch who I thought was a SO last year.

4. LaGrange- They bring back one of the 3 QBs who played last year.  There is talent returning at the WR position.  They bring back an all-conference DL.  The coaching staff seems to be intact.  The big absences are the reining OROTY and DROTY which are not on the roster.

I hope for the kids sake they can play the spring season and that the schools allow some family to attend.  I was happy that there was football this fall but my son and I certainly missed going to Fayetteville on a Saturday and sweating our tails off cheering on the Monarchs.
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Post by: Hawks88 on January 05, 2021, 03:47:18 PM
RE: Thomas and Caldwell at HC. Thomas would have been a fifth year SR this fall(missed first year injured) and finished up in the fall semester. I know Caldwell spent a couple of years at Miles(one a redshirt) before coming to HC so he would have been a fifth year also and may have finished up in the fall. I don't know for sure but assume he did since they went ahead and assigned his number to someone else.

Edit to add: Very nicely done post, WHR. I hope the guys get to play in the spring too. And about your last line mentioning missing sweating your tails off, I'm not sure what your weather was like this past fall but I remember every Saturday from about the middle of September on thinking how awesome the weather was and how nice it would have been to be sitting at a Hawks game. Unlike most years where we swelter in the heat until late October. We really did have cool weather here for most of the fall which made not getting to play that much worse.
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Post by: BSCpanthers on January 05, 2021, 04:20:24 PM
It's a shame we couldn't get a non conference game in for BSC and HC.  Looking forward to the next edition this fall!!! 
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Post by: Hawks88 on January 05, 2021, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on January 05, 2021, 04:20:24 PM
It's a shame we couldn't get a non conference game in for BSC and HC.  Looking forward to the next edition this fall!!!

I hear you. I have wondered a couple of things about next fall's schedule. I wonder whether the HC-BSC game will be in Montgomery this fall since it was our turn to host or if it will be skipped and keep the rotation back to Birmingham. The past fall would have also been the fourth year of the 4 year contract with Guilford and the second half of the home-and-home with UW-Oshkosh. Southern Virginia is supposed to be joining the USAC next year giving us 8 conference games so I'm sure at least one of those others won't happen this fall, if either.
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Post by: Scots13 on January 05, 2021, 09:02:03 PM
SVU is leaving the ODAC? They just got there...
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Post by: Hawks88 on January 05, 2021, 09:39:07 PM
From Dec. of '19
https://twitter.com/usa_south/status/1204795024967454720
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Post by: BSCpanthers on January 05, 2021, 09:45:31 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on January 05, 2021, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on January 05, 2021, 04:20:24 PM
It's a shame we couldn't get a non conference game in for BSC and HC.  Looking forward to the next edition this fall!!!

I hear you. I have wondered a couple of things about next fall's schedule. I wonder whether the HC-BSC game will be in Montgomery this fall since it was our turn to host or if it will be skipped and keep the rotation back to Birmingham. The past fall would have also been the fourth year of the 4 year contract with Guilford and the second half of the home-and-home with UW-Oshkosh. Southern Virginia is supposed to be joining the USAC next year giving us 8 conference games so I'm sure at least one of those others won't happen this fall, if either.

We have one of our football only members leaving the conference after this spring, don't remember which one, they are in TX.  So I think we are picking up an extra OOC game next fall.  You would think to keep schedules right, 5 home 5 away, we would have to rotate back to the HC-BSC game being back at BSC next fall because of contract and schedules with all other teams.  That is unless everyone just pushes every schedule back one year. 

Who knows what they are going to do, we'll just have to sit and wait it out.
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Post by: jknezek on January 05, 2021, 10:38:36 PM
Quote from: Scots13 on January 05, 2021, 09:02:03 PM
SVU is leaving the ODAC? They just got there...

Only for football and they were looking for a permanent home. The ODAC wasn't real interested in hosting them. It was convenient for football, that's all.
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Post by: Hawks88 on January 11, 2021, 04:45:30 PM
LaGrange decides not to play football this spring.  :(

https://www.lagrangepanthers.com/general/2020-21/releases/20210111fld6yn
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Post by: justafan12 on January 11, 2021, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on January 05, 2021, 09:45:31 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on January 05, 2021, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on January 05, 2021, 04:20:24 PM
It's a shame we couldn't get a non conference game in for BSC and HC.  Looking forward to the next edition this fall!!!

I hear you. I have wondered a couple of things about next fall's schedule. I wonder whether the HC-BSC game will be in Montgomery this fall since it was our turn to host or if it will be skipped and keep the rotation back to Birmingham. The past fall would have also been the fourth year of the 4 year contract with Guilford and the second half of the home-and-home with UW-Oshkosh. Southern Virginia is supposed to be joining the USAC next year giving us 8 conference games so I'm sure at least one of those others won't happen this fall, if either.

We have one of our football only members leaving the conference after this spring, don't remember which one, they are in TX.  So I think we are picking up an extra OOC game next fall.  You would think to keep schedules right, 5 home 5 away, we would have to rotate back to the HC-BSC game being back at BSC next fall because of contract and schedules with all other teams.  That is unless everyone just pushes every schedule back one year. 

Who knows what they are going to do, we'll just have to sit and wait it out.

Austin College is the one leaving your conference.  They are joining the ASC and will replace Louisiana College who is going NAIA.

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Post by: Hawks88 on January 15, 2021, 10:49:59 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on January 11, 2021, 04:45:30 PM
LaGrange decides not to play football this spring.  :(

https://www.lagrangepanthers.com/general/2020-21/releases/20210111fld6yn
The adjusted schedule minus LaGrange was just published. We'll get a double round-robin between Brevard, Huntingdon, and Maryville which takes 6 weeks to do instead of four so that pushes the conference championship to April 3.

https://www.usasouth.net/sports/fball/2020-21/releases/20210115cmgibo
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on January 15, 2021, 11:33:39 AM
I wonder if the conference thought about what might happen if things wind up in a tie?  They could have 2 teams finish 3-1 or every team finish 2-2.  It could work out easy if it is two 3-1 teams and one holds a perfect record against the other team but if they each lost to each other then what?  I am assuming then it is scoring margin or maybe home and away records?  If it's a three way tie maybe it will be like Friday Night Lights and the head coached can meet at a diner and flip a coin.  This might be like the old BCS where if you have the opportunity to run the score up it might be something the coaching staff has to think about.  The added positive that I see with this schedule is no one has back to back road games
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Post by: Hawks88 on January 15, 2021, 01:51:21 PM
I guess the next question is whether these games will be on campus? I remember in the fall they had mentioned trying to do neutral sites to avoid over-night trips.
Then, of course, there's the attendance policies and who gets to attend?
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Post by: Hawks88 on January 25, 2021, 10:08:05 AM
Maryville has hired Ben Fox as head football coach. Great hire.

https://twitter.com/MCScots/status/1353709351010246658
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Post by: BSCpanthers on January 25, 2021, 08:38:50 PM
What kind of salary do D3 HC's make???  I'm guessing somewhere between $75-$120k.
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Post by: Pat Coleman on January 26, 2021, 12:01:54 AM
I suspect that far and away the vast majority are in that range but depending on location there may be some lower. Also some head coaches, believe it or not, are still not full-time.
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Post by: BSCpanthers on January 26, 2021, 12:46:42 AM
My father-in-law was a JUCO assistant coach, for multiple schools.  He volunteered for most of his time but before he retired from that, I think he was up to $3000 a year for his time.  It was a part time gig for him, but it did take up quite I bit of his time with recruiting, coaching(fall and spring season), road trips for away games.  It was just him and the head coach, who was a full time school employee and he taught a class. 
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Post by: scottiedoug on January 26, 2021, 11:15:18 AM
Daily Times on Ben Fox's appointment at Maryville.

https://www.thedailytimes.com/sports/maryville-college-names-ben-fox-as-new-head-football-coach/article_f5fcf6e4-a23d-5d6e-98d8-e2a4dbb5a957.html
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Post by: Ron Boerger on January 26, 2021, 01:21:39 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on January 25, 2021, 08:38:50 PM
What kind of salary do D3 HC's make???  I'm guessing somewhere between $75-$120k.

According to https://openpayrolls.com/employee/john-h-pearce-4162 the head football coach of Sul Ross State, the only public football-playing D3 in Texas, made $30K in 2019 (after making $50K in 2018).   Sounds like he's part-time.
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Post by: Hawks88 on February 03, 2021, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 29, 2020, 08:31:34 PM
Just noticed that Huntingdon has updated the roster. 131 total with 64 freshmen. I only count 9 seniors with some key names missing. I wonder how many are taking a gap year/semester.
Sure wishing I was getting ready to drive up to Greensboro next week.

Updated roster for the spring season has 109 total with 52 freshmen and 5 seniors so we've had a good bit of atrophy from fall to spring.
17 days to game 1.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: Hawks88 on February 05, 2021, 04:10:57 PM
USA South outdoor sports attendance policy. This is nonsense. We're outdoors for pete's sake. I went to 6 high school games this fall and managed to stay well. If I want to go out and sit at a game I should be able to.

https://www.usasouth.net/general/2020-21/releases/20210204n0c9kn?fbclid=IwAR2BmAKjbkHyU-OPrCrLWYglreLl2w14YIGaNXqq6kPrULlkiRS4UcygmVk
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Post by: Highlander98 on February 06, 2021, 02:38:55 PM
Maryville's updated roster has 91 players with 7 seniors, 15 juniors, 25 sophomores and 54 freshmen....
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Post by: BSCpanthers on February 18, 2021, 07:03:41 PM
Ok USAsouth, what does the opening weekend schedule look like for you guys???  SAA has shut it down for this weekend due to weather, which means now all 8 teams playing will only play 3 regular season games before championship weekend, where we will play cross division equal seeds.
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Post by: Hawks88 on February 18, 2021, 07:39:18 PM
I think Brevard at Huntingdon is it for this weekend. With Lagrange dropping out it will take 6 weeks for the other three of us to do a double round robin to get 4 games so the 4 east teams are waiting a couple of weeks to start. I assume all other teams are still planning to play but have really heard nothing. I have seen no news reports about Huntingdon and have no idea as far as depth charts and that sort of thing goes. I have an assumption on who the starting QB will be but really don't know.
That said, I'm ready for some Hawks football. Hating that I won't be able to see it in person but have accepted the explanations and am ready to stream it on the big screen. I think I'm actually more bummed about not getting to go to Maryville next week. My wife and I have been to every Maryville game except the first one in '04 so that's a streak that's about to end.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: BSCpanthers on February 20, 2021, 05:17:51 PM
Dang Huntingdon, y'all made that a lot more interesting then it needed to be at the end of that game.  But a win is a win, 26-18.
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Post by: Hawks88 on February 20, 2021, 05:35:18 PM
Yeah, that got too close. Our offense looked pretty good in the first half but never got back into gear in the second. At least there were a couple of turnovers that gave us short fields that we got field goals to stretch the lead out some. Hopefully we can get more consistent going forward.
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Post by: BSCpanthers on February 20, 2021, 09:06:51 PM
So on April 10th Brevard(USA South member) is playing Suwanee(SAA) member.  If they can make this happen, then what is stopping Huntingdon and BSC getting on the field this spring??? 

Time to make this a reality!!! 
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Post by: Hawks88 on February 22, 2021, 08:57:06 AM
Anyone know if Maryville will be streaming the game Saturday? The schedules only have a link to live stats.
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Post by: Hawks88 on February 22, 2021, 08:56:17 PM
Never mind. HC@MC postponed. :(

https://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2020-21/releases/20210222poe87u?fbclid=IwAR0oy6jId7pbKH-OFZPT5qDYFmaQT8uJXlUdTGY6Woy-nuPPf28ww7C7GQ8
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Post by: Hawks88 on February 23, 2021, 08:06:39 PM
Updated USA South and Huntingdon outdoor spectator policies.

https://www.usasouth.net/general/2020-21/releases/20210222ntdkjm?fbclid=IwAR15xOOvA1mwRrrkzn-RUfeUt2qA7VgxzGvp3WjdDJQGlSRf_u8lo7FfM34

https://www.huntingdonhawks.com/general/2020-21/releases/20210223purtx9
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Post by: Hawks88 on March 08, 2021, 01:27:39 PM
Averett leaving USA South for ODAC in 2022.

https://www.usasouth.net/general/2020-21/releases/20210301p38n4z?fbclid=IwAR1CaQzFpKnfgivHoROqo5LhJUOkQMV4Qm-BrfcWfRDgIKFHqZcCTLFcrpE
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Post by: BSCpanthers on March 08, 2021, 05:02:18 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on February 23, 2021, 08:06:39 PM
Updated USA South and Huntingdon outdoor spectator policies.

https://www.usasouth.net/general/2020-21/releases/20210222ntdkjm?fbclid=IwAR15xOOvA1mwRrrkzn-RUfeUt2qA7VgxzGvp3WjdDJQGlSRf_u8lo7FfM34

https://www.huntingdonhawks.com/general/2020-21/releases/20210223purtx9

USA South is a big numbers conference, losing one won't be felt by many.  Besides, you have Southern Virginia University joining in the fall anyway, and they play football as well, so you will stay at the 8 football members. 
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Post by: Hawks88 on March 08, 2021, 10:39:59 PM
Yeah, it evens out the teams eventually. SVU is an hour and a half further so there's that. Averett is the only place left in the conference currently that my wife and I haven't been to. We were planning to go a couple of times but work ended up getting in the way. If we play there this fall maybe we can finally mark that one off.
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Post by: BSCpanthers on March 13, 2021, 04:22:07 PM
What happened Huntingdon???  Didn't get to watch, was watching BSC.  Neither Alabama DIII team won today.
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Post by: Hawks88 on March 13, 2021, 11:29:13 PM
Worst defeat since losses to UW-Oshkosh and Wesley in 2007. And Brevard ain't neither one of those. There were a few stretches where we moved the ball decent between the 20's but just made too many mistakes/penalties and couldn't finish drives. Except for three or four break-downs the defense really didn't do too bad. Hopefully we can get some things straight against Maryville next week.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on March 16, 2021, 05:23:26 PM
If Methodist can win in Rocky Mount this Saturday it would essentially lock up the East division championship.  I have had scheduling conflicts for the first two games so I am hoping to see some of this weekends contest online.  It seems like they answered one of my questions heading into this year and there are two capable running backs on the team based on the stat lines.  The QB Bullins looks like he could be the best in the conference for the next few years.  I am assuming that Brevard now owns the tie breaker with Huntingdon based on margin of victory.  Assuming both beat Maryville (I'm certainly not saying that this is a given) in the next two weeks Brevard would win the West.
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Post by: Hawks88 on March 20, 2021, 11:15:15 AM
How about some college football today in Montgomery, AL? All three schools with football have home games.
Huntingdon-Maryville @1
Faulkner-Reinhardt @2
Alabama St- Jackson St @3

Go Hawks!
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Post by: Hawks88 on March 27, 2021, 08:00:33 PM
So...anybody know yet who plays who next week?
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Post by: Hawks88 on March 27, 2021, 08:19:56 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on March 27, 2021, 08:00:33 PM
So...anybody know yet who plays who next week?
Not sure how the tie was broken but just saw this on facebook -
Hawks Football will travel to Methodist for the Spring 2021 USA South Conference Championship on Saturday, April 3rd. Kickoff is set for 1pm eastern. As a reminder, visiting fans will not be allowed.
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Post by: Hawks88 on March 27, 2021, 09:16:04 PM
I'm hearing they went with the coin-toss.
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Post by: BSCpanthers on March 28, 2021, 06:05:42 PM
Good luck Hawks, go get that jewelry, just makes it sweeter when we beat you next season. 
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on March 30, 2021, 11:46:09 AM
On paper this matchup favors the Monarchs for the conference title.  There were two crossover games between the east and west divisions with the west winning both.  Methodist has had decent offensive outputs and the defense has held their own.  I worry about the Hawks RPO game and allowing a short pass turn into 6 points.  The legs of the Hawks QB will likely be a concern.  Methodist has somehow done ok against Huntingdon since they have been in the league going 3-4 against them.  But if you look at the individual games the losses have not been close and the wins have been shootouts.  I'm not sure if the Hawks have the same firepower this season and I also think Methodist's defense is playing better.  I think if Methodist can score 28 they should come away with a win.

Regardless of the outcome of this weekends game I am very optimistic about Methodist's outlook for the 2021 Fall season.  Last week was the senior game and only one starter/contributor was honored.  If everyone returns which I know is not realistic here is what they have:

QB- All-Conference/POTY potential.  He is a SO
RB- 2 headed monster.  All Conference Potential.  One is a SO and one is a JR
WR- Started 2 SOs, a JR, and a SR (who I believe will be coming back).  I would not be surprised if Moore and McNeil are All Conference contenders and Pralyow is a threat as a runner, receiver, and returner
OL- 4 JR starters (2 have been starting since FR year) and a FR return. 
DL- FR Nose Guard could be a handful for the next few years.  SR and SO DE aren't too bad at rushing the passer.  The SR has 7 sacks in 4 games.  There was a decent looking FR that got plenty of playing time at DE.  They could stand some depth behind the nose guard.
LB- Started a FR and a JR.  Both play the run very well
S- This is the strength of the defense.  SOs Grady and Hill are very talented and the SR Jones is a 2 time all-conference player.  2 FR got some good experience this spring as well.
CB- This is where they look thin.  A FR started all 4 games though and he looks pretty good for a FR.  They lose a starter here
P- SR returning all conference
K- SO started every game as a FR and is fairly accurate
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Subway Alum on March 30, 2021, 03:26:44 PM
It almost had to be a coin toss that put Huntingdon in the 2021 spring title game over Brevard.  Because Brevard played Averett outside the division (and won), they ended up with a divisional 2-1 record, tied with Huntingdon. But head-to-head Brevard was clearly better than Huntingdon despite each team's winning at home. Brevard also beat Maryville more convincingly than Huntingdon did. Instead of the title game Brevard gets N.C. Wesleyan, but at least it will be a home game on Brevard's new field. Brevard should win that one handily, then beat non-conference Sewanee the following week for a solid 5-1 season that will give them momentum going into the fall.

I'm not saying that Huntingdon getting the title game is necessarily unfair. This has been a weird part-season, and the chance of a divisional tie was pretty high. Best of luck to Huntingdon--they built a decent lead in the opener against Brevard and hung on. But the result two weeks later in Brevard was probably more indicative of the relative strength of the teams.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 30, 2021, 05:58:21 PM
Certainly seemed better but the record between the two teams in head-to-head competition was 1-1 and that's what is in the tiebreaker. The tiebreakers weren't designed for divisional play and weren't designed for football teams playing each other twice, otherwise they might well have considered a total points/margin of victory tiebreaker. But those don't necessarily work well in three-way ties because it encourages running up the score.

In a year where there is divisional play instead of conference play, it makes sense that the tiebreakers are based on divisional play. That's logical, but not spelled out to everyone's satisfaction, leaving that hole for all the posts on social media to be put out there.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 30, 2021, 07:21:38 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 30, 2021, 05:58:21 PM
Certainly seemed better but the record between the two teams in head-to-head competition was 1-1 and that's what is in the tiebreaker. The tiebreakers weren't designed for divisional play and weren't designed for football teams playing each other twice, otherwise they might well have considered a total points/margin of victory tiebreaker. But those don't necessarily work well in three-way ties because it encourages running up the score.

In a year where there is divisional play instead of conference play, it makes sense that the tiebreakers are based on divisional play. That's logical, but not spelled out to everyone's satisfaction, leaving that hole for all the posts on social media to be put out there.
The divisional play only was spelled out in the 2/10 pre-season poll announcement.

"Due to complications stemming from the COVID-19 pandemic, the 2020 football season was postponed until the spring semester. Despite the delay to the start of the season, the USA South is prepared to offer regular season and championship experiences for its student-athletes despite the NCAA's cancelation of the national Division III tournament. An adjustment to this season's competition is that USA South football teams will be competing in Conference-sponsored regular season games within their division only. "

https://www.usasouth.net/sports/fball/2020-21/releases/20210209odl6lc
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on March 30, 2021, 09:24:29 PM
I agree, but apparently the conference referred people to tiebreakers that didn't specify division play only and some are reading that and determining that Brevard got screwed. (We are not among those people.)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on March 30, 2021, 09:55:18 PM
This will be over soon. Brevard has a good team, I wish them well. Huntingdon and them split, they both beat Murr-vul, and Huntingdon won the coin toss.
There it is :)
Yall stay safe and keep the faith
Go Hawks :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on April 03, 2021, 11:48:51 PM
Congrats Hawks, but what the heck happened in the last 3 minutes???  I walked out at 24-14, final was 31-20(21), what the heck happened in this 3 minutes.????

I'm ready for a normal season in the fall, time for some OOC games!!!!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 04, 2021, 10:16:00 AM
Cotney had a nice 26 yd run for a TD with a little over two minutes left and we went into prevent mode for their last drive. Their announcers questioned several times during that last drive why Cotney didn't just take a knee. Kinda hard to knee out 2-plus minutes when the other team still has two timeouts, right? Of course they didn't question Methodist going for two and trying an onside kick with 6 seconds left.

We're ready for a full fall season and OOC play too. Looks like we open up hosting UW-Oshkosh week one and @BSC week two. That's the plan any way.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on April 04, 2021, 10:35:07 AM
 :)
Go Hawks
Stay safe
Keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on April 05, 2021, 09:54:48 AM
Huntingdon was the better team most of the afternoon.  The Hawks ran the ball at will and the Monarchs could not sustain anything on the ground.  I do wonder if the 61 yard TD pass in the 2nd that was called back for an unsportsman like penalty had stood if the outcome might have been different or at least closer.  TD is wiped off the board and three plays later MU fumbles the ball which the Hawks recovered.  In either case 3 players rushing for over 100 yards in a non wing-T/triple option offense is very impressive.  The absolute back breaker was the 9 minute drive that resulted in a FG by the Hawks to start the 4th.  That made it a 10 point game and the way Huntington was running the ball almost unsurmountable.  I was scratching my head at the 2 point conversion by Methodist at the end as well as the onside kick. 

Best of luck to all in the shortened offseason and here's to a more "normal" looking 2021 Fall season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Subway Alum on April 06, 2021, 03:28:39 PM
Congratulations to Huntingdon on the spring football title.  I'm also looking forward to to fall and what will ideally be a full schedule. . . . But Brevard, after taking care of N. C. Wesleyan to stay undefeated on their new campus field, still has Sewanee (there) on April 10. I'm looking forward to that one as the Tornados look to go 5-1 for the spring. It's a great opportunity for Brevard to play another historically-storied program on a classic campus. Two years ago it was a solid win in an ECAC bowl game at Carnegie-Mellon. Brevard coach Bill Khayat, who came on board with the move to Division III, and his staff are building a fine program at BC. It's a real departure from the disappointments of too many outclassed seasons in Division II (SAC) after football was reintroduced at Brevard in 2005. . . .  I watched some of the Sewanee stream against Greensboro on Saturday and expect it will be an honor for Brevard to play on the field there with all the traditions of Sewanee football. But unless the Tornados bury themselves with penalties--which seems to be the team's biggest weakness this spring--their defense and an offense that has seemed to have just enough to get it done this spring, ought to come away with another win to add to BC's growing Division III success.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on April 06, 2021, 07:58:36 PM
Subway Alum
I hope Brevard will soundly defeats Sewanee. I always pull for our league, where ever and who ever they play, except when they play Huntingdon of course.
Congrats on yalls fine season
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ITH radio on April 07, 2021, 10:11:07 AM
We will be releasing our interview with Coach Khayat about the USA South title game controversy and his thoughts on the spring season in a few hours. I'll post the links here when they're up.

It's been great covering the USAC this season. Definitely some great games/schools involved.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ITH radio on April 07, 2021, 01:42:02 PM
https://fb.watch/4JG3yE_9Bb/ - interview with HC Bill Khayat of Brevard about this spring season's USA South championship tiebreaker confusion / controversy.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on April 07, 2021, 04:00:54 PM
^^ great show. Real good discussion. The Coach seems to be the real deal.
With him at the helm, Brevard College will be a really tough team from here on out.
Thanks
keep the faith  :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: ITH radio on April 08, 2021, 12:09:44 PM
DGP - thanks!

"Off the air" he let us know about his background - dad was a NFL player on the 1960 Eagles championship team. Really smart and articulate guy. He's definitely going to make BC a top program in the USAC, if not the South Region, really soon.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Subway Alum on April 09, 2021, 11:35:10 AM
Thanks for the informative coverage.  I just hope BC will be able to keep Coach Khayat for a while longer. He's so well-spoken and humble, especially compared to the self-promoters who land a lot of Division I-A jobs. . .  The point about only 17 players on the team when he came aboard in 2017 was especially telling in what he, the other coaches (some of them his former players), and the dedicated players he's brought to Brevard over four years have been able to accomplish. It's pretty clear that the third spring 2021 Brevard-Huntingdon game will never take place, but it looks like there will be a full fall season--Brevard will get their shot then.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 18, 2021, 11:19:48 AM
Huntingdon released the schedule yesterday. 6 home games, nice. September is going to be pretty tough, need to come out of the gate rolling.

https://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2021-22/schedule
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on June 18, 2021, 10:33:35 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 18, 2021, 11:19:48 AM
Huntingdon released the schedule yesterday. 6 home games, nice. September is going to be pretty tough, need to come out of the gate rolling.

https://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2021-22/schedule

Not real sure why the change in our game, we now have 4 home games and you guys have 6.  I can only imagine next season will be opposite with us having 6 and you guys having 4.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on June 19, 2021, 10:58:46 AM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on June 18, 2021, 10:33:35 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on June 18, 2021, 11:19:48 AM
Huntingdon released the schedule yesterday. 6 home games, nice. September is going to be pretty tough, need to come out of the gate rolling.

https://www.huntingdonhawks.com/sports/fball/2021-22/schedule

Not real sure why the change in our game, we now have 4 home games and you guys have 6.  I can only imagine next season will be opposite with us having 6 and you guys having 4.
I can see us getting 5 home games next year. I assume Oshkosh and Averett will be dropping off so we can possibly replace one of those two with a home game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on July 08, 2021, 10:19:09 AM
Does anyone see the NIL trickling down to the D3 level.  Any athletes going to get a benefit out of it???  I could see it if the D3 program is the only program in the area, but like in Birmingham, where BSC is the fourth program in the Birmingham metro area, hard to gain any attention for those athletes in this market.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on July 08, 2021, 11:04:59 AM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on July 08, 2021, 10:19:09 AM
Does anyone see the NIL trickling down to the D3 level.  Any athletes going to get a benefit out of it???  I could see it if the D3 program is the only program in the area, but like in Birmingham, where BSC is the fourth program in the Birmingham metro area, hard to gain any attention for those athletes in this market.

I think it'll benefit that student athlete that has a large social media following doing something very unique that they can now profit from without recourse from the NCAA. However, in some schools, the activity the student partakes in has to be in accordance with the Schools Student Code of Conduct.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 06, 2021, 11:01:45 PM
Huntingdon has an updated roster posted on the website. 164 total including 23 SR, 24 JR, 41 SO, and 76 FR.
I'm ready for some football.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 31, 2021, 04:34:27 PM
2021 Fall Season here we go!  I am very optimistic about the Monarchs chances this season.  The pre-season pole picked them to finish 3rd which is where I would have likely picked them.  They return 11 starters from last Springs defense highlighted by 6 all-conference players (I know all-conference selections were aplenty in the spring but I'll take it).  The ones I plan on keeping a close eye on are the DE Patterson who was also All-Region on D3Football as well as three time all-conference safety Jones.  Both are super seniors.  On offense 10 of the 11 starters are back along with the back up RB and the TE when they use one.  The standouts on offense are of course the QB Bullins, the do everything WR/RB/RET Praylow, and the All-Region center Wiggins.  Special teams brings back both the starting K and P.  The only notable absence was the WR Moore but I have heard that the cupboard is not bare at that position.  The schedule shake out ok with 6 games before the bye.  The games that will determine the season early on are Maryville away on Sept 18th which will open up conference play.  Maryville will be coming off a tough 2 non-conference games.  Then on week 5 there is the long trip to Alabama to play the Hawks.  This is the week after Huntingdon plays Brevard so the Hawks conference outlook could be shaped up after that game.  If the Monarchs can go into the bye with one or less losses in conference I spirits will still be high.  There are 4 conference games to finish it up with the biggie at home on Halloween Eve when the Tornados come to town.

This is the most hopeful I have felt going into a season for Methodist since Max Reber and company were in town about 8 years ago. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 31, 2021, 04:56:10 PM
Week one picks:
NCWC over Emory and Henry.  Go USAC
Brevard over Shorter.
Methodist over Shenandoah.  Go USAC
UW-Oshkosh over Huntingdon.  I will be pulling for the Hawks and would love an upset but the Titans appear better on paper.
SVU over Wilmington.  This is kind of a guess
Berry over Maryville.
Averett over Ferrum.  Go USAC
BSU over Lagrange.
Guilford over Greensboro in the Soup Bowl. 

USAC 3 and ODAC 1
SAAC 2 and ODAC 0
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 04, 2021, 06:23:36 PM
Heck of a fight today by the Hawks in a 28-24 loss to UW-OShkosh. Our defense was outstanding today and the offense played pretty well. It was two long kick-off returns, one to give them a short field and another for a TD that was pretty much the difference.
Very proud of the effort. Learn from the mistakes and get ready for BSC next week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 07, 2021, 09:54:15 AM
Bad week for the conference with only SVU picking up a win.  I know there are no moral victories but both Huntingdon and Maryville playing one score games against top 25 teams isn't a bad thing.  The Methodist game couldn't have started out any better for the Monarchs.  SU had the ball first and MU forced a three and out.  Methodist then went 15 plays in 7:25 for the TD.  The next SU drive the Monarchs recovered a fumble and went 11 plays in 5:23 for the second TD of the afternoon.  The first first 15:42 of game clock Methodist had the ball for 12:48 seconds of it with 14 points to show for it.  This was followed by 4 punts (2 by each team) then Shenandoah showed signs of life on the next drive completing 2 4th down fake punts for 1st downs.  They were stopped on a 4th and 3 at their own 19.  Methodist punted the ball back to Shenandoah who threw a 52 yard pass to a wide open receiver who was tackled at the 2.  SU scored right before half.  The Hornet's second drive of the second half was a 86 yard TD pass.  The Monarch's had a tough time covering SU's Bigbee all afternoon.  The back breaker was the three fourth down stops the Hornet's had in the second half.  All the credit in the world to Shenandoah but I believe the Monarchs let that one slip away.  The sign of a good team is the improvement between week one and week two.  Hopefully the Monarchs can clean up the mistakes and get a big win under the lights against the Quakers.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 08, 2021, 03:26:29 PM
Week 2 and the every conference team has a home OOC game.  Here's what I see:

Shenandoah goes to Rock Mount and beats the Battling Bishops.  Week one did not look very good against E&H.  It may be a long season for NCWC.

Brevard rights the ship against Apprentice.  I would expect a large margin of victory here.

Maryville looks like they may be stout on defense.  Hanover put up a ton of points in week one.  Big win for the conference here I'll take the Scotts in a close one.

SVU gets their "old" ODAC foe Bridgewater in Buena Vista.  The last time these two teams played the score was lopsided.  I think this game will be closer but the visiting Eagles go away a victor.

Berry handles LaGrange going 2-0 against the USAC.

Averett gets a true old conference foe in CNU in Danville.  CNU had what I think will turn out to be a good win against W&L.  The Cougars lost a close one to Ferrum.  Averett has over 30 SRs on the roster so I'll take them in a bit of an upset at home.

Huntingdon finds a way to slow down BSUs RB and beats the Panthers in a high scoring affair.

My Game of the Week in Fayetteville, NC.  This will be my first time back on campus since 2019.  This will also be my first chance to experience a game under the lights (they were installed in the spring/summer of 2020 and used in the spring of 2021).  The Monarchs let one slip away in Shenandoah, VA last week.  The Quakers played a closer than normal game against the crosstown Pride of Greensboro last week (7-7 tie mid way through the third).  Now either Greensboro has dramatically improved on defense since the spring season (holding the Quakers to 241 total yards) until now or Guilford might be having a down year on offense.  I tend to believe the latter.  Methodist wins and wins big if and only if there are not the blown assignments in coverage that there were last weekend.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D-BAT on September 09, 2021, 01:49:32 AM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on September 07, 2021, 09:54:15 AM
The Methodist game couldn't have started out any better for the Monarchs.  SU had the ball first and MU forced a three and out.  Methodist then went 15 plays in 7:25 for the TD. 

The next SU drive the Monarchs recovered a fumble and went 11 plays in 5:23 for the second TD of the afternoon. 

The first first 15:42 of game clock Methodist had the ball for 12:48 seconds of it with 14 points to show for it. 

This was followed by 4 punts (2 by each team) then Shenandoah showed signs of life on the next drive completing 2 4th down fake punts for 1st downs. 

They were stopped on a 4th and 3 at their own 19. 

Methodist punted the ball back to Shenandoah who threw a 52 yard pass to a wide open receiver who was tackled at the 2. 

SU scored right before half. 

The Hornet's second drive of the second half was a 86 yard TD pass. 

The Monarch's had a tough time covering SU's Bigbee all afternoon. 

The back breaker was the three fourth down stops the Hornet's had in the second half.

All the credit in the world to Shenandoah but I believe the Monarchs let that one slip away. 

The sign of a good team is the improvement between week one and week two.  Hopefully the Monarchs can clean up the mistakes and get a big win under the lights against the Quakers.


It was stated that MU was probably 21 pts better but aborted the "wildcat formation" especially at the end of the game inside the 10 yard line to win the game and went all pass.  Why did they do that?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 09, 2021, 01:49:25 PM
I wish I knew D-BAT.  The only thing I can think is that the 4&1 stop at the SU3 (which led to the safety) made them gun shy.  They had the ball at 3&3 at the SU3 with 48 seconds left on the clock and SU had just taken a time out to stop the clock.  They could have had in their wildcat personnel grouping and ran 2 plays in the amount of time left.  In their defense I still believe that their QB is the best player they have on offense so I understand putting the ball in his hands for the 3rd and 4th down plays.  I'm sure that is a decision that could be "Monday Morning QBed" to death.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 12, 2021, 01:06:07 PM
Tough opening two weeks for the conference. 2-14 over all.
For the Hawks that second half was a nightmare with 5 turnovers. When things started going the wrong it's like guys started pressing to make up for them and the mistakes started multiplying and things just spiraled from there. Thankfully we have the open date so hopefully we can forget about that one and get healthy and get ready for conference play starting with the trip to Brevard.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 13, 2021, 10:11:39 AM
Well COVID took out the Methodist/Guilford game on Saturday night.  Good win by Averett.  Sounds like things snowballed in Alabama.  The one that truly shocked me was the Brevard-v-Apprentice game.  Based on the box score Brevard had to come from 10 down just to get the game to overtime and typically the only D3 team that Apprentice beats is Greensboro.  Conference play starts this weekend.  I'll take:

Brevard on the road to beat NCWC but based on the first two weeks I would not be surprised if the home team wins.  It will be about 10 degrees warmer in Rocky Mount than Brevard.
Averett beats the Pride in Greensboro.
SVU gets their first conference win when LaGrange comes to town
Maryville comes off of two tough non-conference opponents.  They held Berry in check on defense but Hannover put up some yards/points.  Methodist should be rested and hopefully ready to go for the trip to TN.  I will pick the Monarchs to get a road win.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 13, 2021, 11:19:35 AM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on September 13, 2021, 10:11:39 AM
Well COVID took out the Methodist/Guilford game on Saturday night.  Good win by Averett.  Sounds like things snowballed in Alabama.  The one that truly shocked me was the Brevard-v-Apprentice game.  Based on the box score Brevard had to come from 10 down just to get the game to overtime and typically the only D3 team that Apprentice beats is Greensboro.  Conference play starts this weekend.  I'll take:

Brevard on the road to beat NCWC but based on the first two weeks I would not be surprised if the home team wins.  It will be about 10 degrees warmer in Rocky Mount than Brevard.
Averett beats the Pride in Greensboro.
SVU gets their first conference win when LaGrange comes to town
Maryville comes off of two tough non-conference opponents.  They held Berry in check on defense but Hannover put up some yards/points.  Methodist should be rested and hopefully ready to go for the trip to TN.  I will pick the Monarchs to get a road win.

Apprentice have occasionally had some ok teams by local DIII standards. They have also had some truly miserable teams. But we hardly ever know until they hit the field since there is large turnover year to year. We used to have their SID on the boards, I think that was his position, probably more than a few years back until budget cuts took over. He generally had good insight and knew the years the team would be competitive and the years it wouldn't. Unfortunately without him, the team's site has gone pretty barebones and the history hasn't been filled in much since 2015. But I remember a few teams recently that surprised a few DIII teams along the way and this season may as well. Especially with a pretty full slate of ODAC games.

That being said, I think it's more likely Brevard just isn't that good or had a bad game. 197 yards of offense averaging 3.3 per play and a miserable 3rd down percentage is not going to be good for your chances to win. 14-144 on penalties is going to put you in a lot of bad spots as well.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 13, 2021, 12:17:20 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 12, 2021, 01:06:07 PM
Tough opening two weeks for the conference. 2-14 over all.
For the Hawks that second half was a nightmare with 5 turnovers. When things started going the wrong it's like guys started pressing to make up for them and the mistakes started multiplying and things just spiraled from there. Thankfully we have the open date so hopefully we can forget about that one and get healthy and get ready for conference play starting with the trip to Brevard.

Go Hawks!

I wonder how beat up the Hawks were coming out of facing UWO. Those big boys in Wisconsin can do a lot of damage, and if you are nicked up and facing one of the best running backs in DIII... come the second half it can start getting ugly when your defense isn't getting any rest because the offense keeps coughing up the ball quickly. Huntingdon's only possession for more than 3 minutes in the second half was their last possession. Otherwise, they had 6 possessions that didn't last 90 seconds and one that lasted just under 3 minutes. Going 4-4 in fumbles lost, versus BSC going 1-4 in fumbles lost, is a just a huge anomaly as well.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on September 15, 2021, 10:33:15 AM
Alright Region III fans, I'm willing to run the Regional Weekly Top 10 if I can get a balanced panel. If you are interested, you can either PM me or reply to this message and if I get enough responses maybe we can start next week. Looking for 1 or 2 people from each conference, but if I can get 5 voters total spread through at least 3 of our conferences I'll take it.

We'll run it mostly the same way Ralph has been doing it for years. Ranked 1-10 votes are due to me by PM by Tuesday at midnight, so if you can't commit to that, please don't offer. It's just not going to be worth it for me if I have to track people down every week. Votes will be anonymous in the published poll, but voters are free to discuss or post their own submissions.

It's a lot of fun, you learn about a lot of teams, and sometimes generates some good discussion. I always like being challenged on why I did things, but if you don't want to engage, that's fine also.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 20, 2021, 12:25:35 PM
Brevard took care of business.  Averett did what they should do against Greensboro.  Mild shock with LaGrange winning on the road.  I was proud of the Monarchs effort in TN.  The weather delay could have killed them as they headed into the locker room for a little over an hour and a half down.  The second half was all Methodist with the Scotts managing under 100 yards on offense and 4 turnovers.  For this weekend here's how it shakes out:

Greensboro hosts Gallaudet for homecoming.  This is the only realistic shot the Pride have left to get a W and I say they do.
NCWC goes to GA to play LaGrange who gets a second conference win in a row.
Huntingdon travels to Brevard in a game that has lost some of it's luster based on preseason expectations.  The Hawks had a bye week to prepare and get the road win.
Maryville travels to VA to play Averett.  Averett keeps rolling and gets their third win in a row.
SVA goes to Fayetteville to play Methodist.  The Monarchs first home game of the season equals a big win.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 25, 2021, 10:44:00 PM
Huge road win for the Hawks today. When we fumbled it away on the first play of the game and led to a quick score by Brevard I couldn't help but start to panic after last game but our defense absolutely shut them down for the rest of the game. 30 yds rushing, 6 sacks, 2 interceptions, and a defensive TD. If we can get that defense the rest of the year and the offense can keep away from turning the ball over then we could be okay.
Now to get ready for Methodist which I'm expecting to be tough game.

Go Hawks!

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 26, 2021, 10:25:55 PM
Amen Hawks 88
Go Hawks
  Keep the faith :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 27, 2021, 09:10:13 AM
It did not work out for Greensboro this weekend.  The Bishops got a nice road win.  Good hard win by the Hawks.  Averett looks to have found a very nice QB based on the stats.  The Monarchs took care of business at home.  This week:

Southern Virginia goes to Maryville.  I think that Maryville should have an advantage at home and gets their first win of the season.
Brevard goes to Greensboro and handles the Pride easily.
Averett keeps up the fireworks and beats NCWC.
Methodist travels to Alabama to take on the Hawks.  The spring championship got out of hand in Fayetteville just about 6 months ago.  I have the exact same concern this time around as I did in the spring and that is the legs of Huntingdon's QB Cotney.  On the other side of the ball I think Methodist has the ability to move the ball but the red zone will be the area of the field where I am keeping a close eye on.  If they can convert red zone opportunities into points and limit the QB run I predict a Methodist win.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 02, 2021, 07:29:41 PM
Great effort by the hawks today with a good win over a solid team.
Go Hawks
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 02, 2021, 07:43:52 PM
Pretty solid win for the Hawks over Methodist. Still too many penalties and turnovers that need to be cleaned up but the offense finally got into a groove in the second half and moved the ball more consistently. Another outstanding job by the defense keeping pressure on the QB most of the day to keep him and those talented receivers in control. Methodist did have several drops though that could have made it a different game.
We lost LB Karl Dorn for the season to an injury in practice this week but some of the young depth guys seemed to play well in his place. Hopefully they can keep doing well going forward.

Long road trip next week to Southern Virginia. Need to take care of business and bring the win home.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 04, 2021, 09:36:30 AM
Things got out of hand in the second half in Alabama.  Huntingdon could run the ball at will and got good pressure on Methodist's QB.  Good win for the Hawks.  NCWC forced 3 turnovers and stopped Averett on 3 different 4th down attempts.  Running back ripping off over 200 helped also I would imagine.  Maryville got in the win column.  The Brevard game was closer than I would have anticipated but three picks helped the Pride keep it close (somewhat).  This week:

I'll take NCWC, Methodist, and Brevard at home and Huntingdon on the road.  Going forward the Hawks two hardest remaining games (on paper), Averett and NCWC, are at home.  I think the Hawks can run the table in conference this year but I know there is a lot of football left to play.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 09, 2021, 08:42:11 PM
Good win for the Hawks today at SVU. Offense looked very good with 497 total yds, 334 rushing. Good to build a good lead and able to play a lot of young guys in the 4th.
Homecoming next week with what could be a tough game with Averett so a lot of work to be done.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 09, 2021, 08:57:18 PM
Good Win
Go Hawks
We might try to drive over.
Yall stay safe, keep the faith  :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 11, 2021, 11:02:25 AM
I guessed all the winners correctly this past weekend.  Huntingdon is starting to roll.  It looks like Brevard found a new QB.  I can't tell if Greensboro has improved on D or if the past two opponents have kinda coasted to victories.  Methodist looked somewhat complete with the win this past weekend.  The highlight was SR WR Praylow who touched the ball 16 times (rushing, receiving, KR, and PR) to the tune of 245 yards and 2 TDs.  Averaged just over 15 yards per touch.

This weekend NCWC beats Maryville at home.  Southern Virginia gets their first conference win against Greensboro.  Brevard goes to LaGrange and gets the win.  The biggest game of the weekend goes on in Alabama.  Averett comes to town coming off their bye week.  If the Cougars gave up over 250 yards rushing to NCWC I would figure the Hawks will have success on the ground.  The question will be if Averett can sling it around on Huntingdon's secondary.  I believe Huntingdon will likely win by double digits but hope for a good game regardless.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 16, 2021, 07:51:39 PM
You couldn't ask for better weather for a homecoming football game, not a cloud in the sky, 70 degrees and breezy. You couldn't ask for a much better, hard fought game between two evenly matched teams as the Hawks pull it out and solidify their hold on the driver's seat to the conference lead.
Trip to Greensboro up next . Need to take care of business and keep taking them one at a time.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 20, 2021, 12:06:00 PM
Averett kept it pretty close in Alabama.  The two interceptions that Huntingdon's QB threw had to help.  Congratulations to Maryville for the upset on the road.  Congratulations to SOVA for their first conference win.  Brevard gets a win and a player on the D3 team of the weak. 

This weekend I believe Huntingdon will win rather easily in Greensboro.  Brevard beats SOVA at home.  Maryville get two wins in a row this weekend against Lagrange.  Averett has lost 2 games in a row and Methodist is coming off their bye.  If you look at common opponents Averett has better results (closer loss to Huntingdon and bigger win against Maryville).  Averett has a better passing game and a better ranked defense.  Methodist has a better rushing offense and is forcing one more turnover a game and Methodist has only turned the ball over 3 times against the 12 for Averett.  If the Monarchs can limit Averett through the air and force a few turnovers then I will take Methodist for a close road win under the lights.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 23, 2021, 03:33:03 PM
Hawks take care of business in Greensboro. A couple of late scores, including a pick-six, make the final look better but we let them hang around way too long before pulling away in the second half. Too many penalties for the Hawks was the main culprit with several that killed drives. Something we definitely need to clean up.
Big one at home next week with NCWC.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 23, 2021, 04:20:29 PM
Go Hawks
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 25, 2021, 11:08:25 AM
The Monarchs had just enough in the tank to get the win in Danville.  They jumped out to the early lead but let the Cougars get back into the game in the second period.  The Hawks got the big win.  Maryville has it rolling the last two weeks.  If you like a defensive struggle the Brevard SOVA game was right up your alley.  286 offensive yards and 10 points between both teams.

This weekend I'll take Lagrange to win at home against Greensboro.  Averett to win on the road at SOVA.  Huntingdon to cleanup the turnovers and beat NCWC at home.  In Fayetteville it is homecoming and the Tornados are coming to town.  Brevard is giving up 8 PPG in conference, allowing just over 205 yards of offense, and averaging 4.5 sacks per game.  In the other side their offense is only averaging 280 yards and scoring 22 PPG.  If Methodist can get to at least 24 points I believe they will get the win.  I will take the Monarchs to get the win at home.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 26, 2021, 04:04:07 PM
3 weeks left and here are my predictions/candidates for OPOTY, DPOTY, OROTY, and DROTY.  I don't know that any one of these picks is a lock at this point.

OPOTY candidates:
Landon Cotney QB Huntingdon.  True dual threat.  Averages 150 yards passing per game to go with 8 TDs and 97 yards rushing per game to go along with 11 TDs
Bryce Jackson QB Averett.  330 yards passing per game and 20 TDs
Jarrod Mosby WR Averett.  D3Football team of the week once.  110 yards receiving per game and 10 TDs and add in jut over 20 yards in the return game
There is not a running back that warrants inclusion on the list in my opinion.

DPOTY candidates:
Steffon Canady LB Brevard.  Twice D3Football team of the week.  9.5 sacks, 15 TFL, 4 FF, 2 FR, and 50 total tackles
Jerome Bass DL Brevard.  6 sacks, 16.5TFL, 1 FF, 1 FR, 1 INT and 49 total tackles
Casey Peppers LB Huntingdon.  3.5 sacks, 6.5 TFL, 1 FR, and 62 total tackles
Tucker Spence LB Huntingdon.  7.5 sacks, 11 TFL, 1 FF and 42 total tackles
Jason Siaosi LB SOVA.  2 sacks, 5 TFL, 2 FF, 2 INT, and 84 total tackles
Dante Anderson DB Brevard.  2.5 sacks, 4 TFL, 1 FF, 2 INT, and 55 total tackles.
Joc Pledger was a pre-season All-American and one time D3Football team of the week.  His stats don't stick out but that could be because no one is willing to throw his way.

OROTY candidates (I did my best to identify FR worthy based on stats and OROTW):
Trevon Crank RB NCWC.  72 rushes, 417 yards rushing, and 4 TDs in only 4 games
Tyler Coleman QB LaGrange.  65% comp, 499 passing yards, and 5 TDs in 3 games (played in a 4th but only threw 2 passes)
LJ Flint WR LaGrange.  14 receptions, 335 receiving yards, 3 TDs
Shawn Watlington RB Averett.  61 carries, 333 yards rushing, and 2 TDs.  Add in 15 receptions for for 120 yards

DROTY candidates (I did my best to identify FR worthy based on stats and DROTW):
Max Steele LB Greensboro.  67 total tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1 FR, and 1 INT
Cameron Grady DB LaGrange.  5 INT, 2 PBU, .5 TFL, and 22 total tackles
Jaden Jones DL LaGrange.  6 sacks, 11 TFL, 1 FF, and 40 total tackles
Jamarcus Dunn LB Maryville.  39 total tackles, 3 TFL, and 2 FF
DeIrvin Grate DB Methodist.  2 INT, 9 PBU, 1 TFL, and 19 total tackles


Ill take Cotney for OPOTY, Canady for DPOTY, Crank for OROTY, and Steele for DPOTY
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 30, 2021, 08:08:59 PM
Excellent effort by the defense for Huntingdon today holding NC Wesleyan to 116 yards of offense and not allowing any scores. The offense was productive with 446 yards but the 4 turnovers held us back. The Hawks keep playing well enough to win but we still haven't really played a complete game it seems like.
Another big one with Maryville next week with a chance to clinch the AQ.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 30, 2021, 08:30:00 PM
Hawks88
Had to work some this AM, but watched the game on the computer.... man you nailed it. Too many mistakes, still a win  :D

Hopefully The hawks can beat Murr-val next week
hope yall are well
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 01, 2021, 08:57:54 AM
I'm sure it doesn't happen very often when a team is out gained by 100 yards of offense and loses the turnover battle 2-0 and still wins.  Somehow Methodist was able to overcome this and find a way to win on homecoming.  Brevard's defense was everything advertised.  Brevard's RB Yoder had 220 yards rushing including a 97 and a 60 yard gainer.  Both of Methodist's INTs were negated by a good defensive stand one resulting in a 4th down stop and the other a 3 & out.  The Monarchs made me sweat it out on Brevard's final drive when the moved the ball 54 yards in 42 seconds all the way to the 11 yd line.  A nice breakup by a FR DB sealed the win.

This week NCWC comes off their bye and beats SOVA.  Methodist travels to Greensboro and wins.  Averett beats LaGrange at home.  Huntingdon beats Maryville at home remaining perfect in conference.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on November 01, 2021, 03:32:55 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on October 26, 2021, 04:04:07 PM
3 weeks left and here are my predictions/candidates for OPOTY, DPOTY, OROTY, and DROTY.  I don't know that any one of these picks is a lock at this point.

OPOTY candidates:
Landon Cotney QB Huntingdon.  True dual threat.  Averages 150 yards passing per game to go with 8 TDs and 97 yards rushing per game to go along with 11 TDs
Bryce Jackson QB Averett.  330 yards passing per game and 20 TDs
Jarrod Mosby WR Averett.  D3Football team of the week once.  110 yards receiving per game and 10 TDs and add in jut over 20 yards in the return game
There is not a running back that warrants inclusion on the list in my opinion.

DPOTY candidates:
Steffon Canady LB Brevard.  Twice D3Football team of the week.  9.5 sacks, 15 TFL, 4 FF, 2 FR, and 50 total tackles
Jerome Bass DL Brevard.  6 sacks, 16.5TFL, 1 FF, 1 FR, 1 INT and 49 total tackles
Casey Peppers LB Huntingdon.  3.5 sacks, 6.5 TFL, 1 FR, and 62 total tackles
Tucker Spence LB Huntingdon.  7.5 sacks, 11 TFL, 1 FF and 42 total tackles
Jason Siaosi LB SOVA.  2 sacks, 5 TFL, 2 FF, 2 INT, and 84 total tackles
Dante Anderson DB Brevard.  2.5 sacks, 4 TFL, 1 FF, 2 INT, and 55 total tackles.
Joc Pledger was a pre-season All-American and one time D3Football team of the week.  His stats don't stick out but that could be because no one is willing to throw his way.

OROTY candidates (I did my best to identify FR worthy based on stats and OROTW):
Trevon Crank RB NCWC.  72 rushes, 417 yards rushing, and 4 TDs in only 4 games
Tyler Coleman QB LaGrange.  65% comp, 499 passing yards, and 5 TDs in 3 games (played in a 4th but only threw 2 passes)
LJ Flint WR LaGrange.  14 receptions, 335 receiving yards, 3 TDs
Shawn Watlington RB Averett.  61 carries, 333 yards rushing, and 2 TDs.  Add in 15 receptions for for 120 yards

DROTY candidates (I did my best to identify FR worthy based on stats and DROTW):
Max Steele LB Greensboro.  67 total tackles, 2.5 TFL, 1 FR, and 1 INT
Cameron Grady DB LaGrange.  5 INT, 2 PBU, .5 TFL, and 22 total tackles
Jaden Jones DL LaGrange.  6 sacks, 11 TFL, 1 FF, and 40 total tackles
Jamarcus Dunn LB Maryville.  39 total tackles, 3 TFL, and 2 FF
DeIrvin Grate DB Methodist.  2 INT, 9 PBU, 1 TFL, and 19 total tackles


Ill take Cotney for OPOTY, Canady for DPOTY, Crank for OROTY, and Steele for DPOTY

Good work here WHR...by any chance would you know is the team that has been playing the most underclassman?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 02, 2021, 03:24:21 PM
FAN,

This is harder to determine this year than normally.  With the extra year because of COVID I'm not sure who is a SR or a super SR but I did try and take a look.  I based a lot of this on stats.  I didn't dig into each box score to determine OL starters so I skipped them except for Methodist since I know who started there.

Averett- QB is a JR and most of the backfield will be back.  Lots of SRs at WR and on D
Brevard- QB is a SO and most of the backfield will be back.  There is a mix at WR but graduation will hit the D hard
Greensboro- Lots of upperclassmen on O.  D is filled with underclassmen.
Huntingdon- QB is a JR and most of the O and D standouts are JRs and SOs
LaGrange- QB is a JR and most of their standouts on O & D are SOs and FRs
Maryville- QB is a SR and most WRs are upperclassmen.  RBs are underclassmen.  D is filled with uperclassmen
Methodist- QB is a SO and RBs are a JR and SO.  WRs are a SR, JR, SO, & FR.  The defense is a good mix of old and young.  OL starts 3 JRs, a SO, and a FR.  All told I believe only 3-4 major contributors will be gone with graduation
NCWC- They are the youngest team in the conference
SOVA- SR QB and a mix at the offensive skill positions.  The D is relatively young.  They are hard to peg with folks going on their missions.

With that being said I would pick Huntington as the frontrunner in 2022 with Methodist a close second.  The next tier is Brevard, Averett, NCWC, and Maryville.  Then there is SOVA and LaGrange in the next group with Greensboro at the tail end.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on November 03, 2021, 10:24:30 AM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on November 02, 2021, 03:24:21 PM
FAN,

This is harder to determine this year than normally.  With the extra year because of COVID I'm not sure who is a SR or a super SR but I did try and take a look.  I based a lot of this on stats.  I didn't dig into each box score to determine OL starters so I skipped them except for Methodist since I know who started there.

Averett- QB is a JR and most of the backfield will be back.  Lots of SRs at WR and on D
Brevard- QB is a SO and most of the backfield will be back.  There is a mix at WR but graduation will hit the D hard
Greensboro- Lots of upperclassmen on O.  D is filled with underclassmen.
Huntingdon- QB is a JR and most of the O and D standouts are JRs and SOs
LaGrange- QB is a JR and most of their standouts on O & D are SOs and FRs
Maryville- QB is a SR and most WRs are upperclassmen.  RBs are underclassmen.  D is filled with uperclassmen
Methodist- QB is a SO and RBs are a JR and SO.  WRs are a SR, JR, SO, & FR.  The defense is a good mix of old and young.  OL starts 3 JRs, a SO, and a FR.  All told I believe only 3-4 major contributors will be gone with graduation
NCWC- They are the youngest team in the conference
SOVA- SR QB and a mix at the offensive skill positions.  The D is relatively young.  They are hard to peg with folks going on their missions.

With that being said I would pick Huntington as the frontrunner in 2022 with Methodist a close second.  The next tier is Brevard, Averett, NCWC, and Maryville.  Then there is SOVA and LaGrange in the next group with Greensboro at the tail end.

Awesome breakdown. With the changes/movement of teams and cancellations. I know Salisbury was scheduled to play Averett and Brevard at some point. I'm not sure if that's the case anymore going forward.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 03, 2021, 03:48:52 PM
The first Regional Ranking (Listing) is out. Reminder, the change this year is the "Rankings" for the first week are in alphabetical order, not in an actual ranking:

Region 3           
   Birmingham-Southern
   Centre   
   Hardin-Simmons   
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   
   Randolph-Macon   
   Trinity (Texas)   
   Washington & Lee

whole story here: https://d3football.com/playoffs/2021/first-regional-ranking
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 06, 2021, 08:11:42 PM
For most of the first half it was, I think, the best we've played this season. I checked the total yardage at one point and it was something like 384-38. Then we kind of eased up and they got the TD drive at the end of the half and weren't as sharp in the second half and had more of a battle than I really wanted. Hats off the Maryville to keep fighting like they did.
Feels good to get the AQ nailed down before going to Lagrange next week. Hope we play well and finish the regular season strong. Still hoping that BSC can get an at-large bid to give us a chance to give a better showing than last time and keep us off a plane the first round.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on November 06, 2021, 08:20:43 PM
I'd be alright with a rematch, at your house again.  If we aren't playing each other, it'll be a long trip to Texas and/or Virginia.  I'm holding out hope we get the at large, we have done all we can do, short of winning the conference. 

Congrats to you guys!!! 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 06, 2021, 08:43:32 PM
I'm pretty sure a rematch would be at your place.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on November 06, 2021, 08:49:43 PM
Bring y'all's party to us, I'm sure my tailgate would be open for some drinks and food.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 06, 2021, 10:09:48 PM
Hawks 88
I might drive over to LaGrange. Their campus is close to the farm :). I will never forget when you and I were accused of be-smirching them. Ive actually been on this board since 2006 or 7. But when I retired the first time, I changed emails and such, so i That be-smirchment we were involved with (im trying not to laugh) was over LaGrange...:) ;D

I like Murrval, they are fun, their campus is nice, and the area is beautiful. i enjoyed the back and forth with B-Southern and hope they do well.............but not LaGrange. I remember the year after the 'be-smirching (again... trying not to laugh). I was driving through LaGrange to see some horse, and I got dog cussed by a feller at a drive through fried chicken place cause i had a Huntingdon sticker on my truck. I laughed at him, which made it worse.

I so very much want us to stay focused and beat LaGrange, a group i would never speak poorly of :)
Go Hawks, keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 08, 2021, 08:45:03 AM
Congratulations to Huntingdon on winning the AQ.  Methodist is guaranteed a second place finish at the worst (even a loss this weekend and a Brevard win would result in a tie and Methodist owns the head to head).  This weekend I believe Maryville will handle Greensboro which will finish the Pride's season at 0-10.  Huntingdon should make short work of LaGrange on the road.  I believe the two most interesting games in North Carolina.  Averett goes to the mountains to play Brevard.  The Tornados hang their hat on their defense but Methodist had success through the air against them.  Averett likes to sling the rock.  I believe home field will be enough to push Brevard to the win.  NCWC comes to Fayetteville for Senior day.  Methodist has too much offense for the Bishops to overcome and I'll take the home team as well.  This would be the first season of at least 7+ wins for Methodist since 2013 and I believe if the Guilford game would have been played it would have been 8 wins. 

If I am correct with my winners the final conference standings will be:

1. Huntingdon (preseason picked to finish 1st)
2. Methodist (preseason picked to finish 3rd)
3. Brevard (preseason picked to finish 2nd)
T4. Averett (preseason picked to finish 4th)
T4. NCWC (preseason picked to finish 6th)
T4. Maryville (preseason picked to finish 4th)
7. LaGrange (preseason picked to finish 7th)
8. SOVA (preseason picked to finish 8th)
9. Greensboro (preseason picked to finish 9th)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 08, 2021, 09:16:38 AM
On a very hopeful note for Methodist a win this weekend will make the SO QB's record 15-9 since 2019.  I know QB wins are a terrible stat because there is so much more to a win but that guy is typically important.  I don't know how the record books will look at the spring season but he will likely own all of the all-time records for Methodist and most in the conference.  As of right now it stands like this:

Attempts- MU Record 1,118 (Reber), Conference Record 1,356 (Throndset Greensboro), Bullins currently 789 (2nd in MU history)
Completions- MU Record 663 (Reber), Conference Record 787 (Throndset Greensboro), Bullins currently 479 (2nd in MU history)
TDs- MU and Conference Record 81 (Reber), Bullins currently 46 (2nd in MU history)
Yards- MU Record 8,868 (Reber), Conference Record 9,231 (Blair LaGrange), Bullins currently 5,573 (2nd in MU history)
Total Offense MU and Conference Record 10,324 (Reber), Bullins currently 5,457 (3rd in MU history)

If you just look at the averages and assume 20 more games Bullins will own every conference record except for the total offense.  It is very likely that he will improve in all categories as he gets older including his rushing abilities and could pass Reber there as well.  As I stated earlier wins by a QB are sometimes a silly thing to look at but Bullins will likely finish on top in MU there as well.  The previous best was Roncketti (22 wins and a .564 win %), Reber (22 wins and a .55 win %), and if you assume .500 records the next two seasons (hopefully much higher) then Bullins would have 25 wins and a .609 win %.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 08, 2021, 10:27:56 AM
So with the bus ride radius now being 600 instead of 500 I did a quick check for Huntingdon possibilities;
Rose-Hulman - 549
Mt St Jospeh - 561
Greenville - 576

A few others now in range are Hanover, Franklin, Ferrum, Averett(since they are moving to ODAC), ETBU. Could be others that I didn't think to check
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on November 08, 2021, 10:32:53 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 08, 2021, 10:27:56 AM
So with the bus ride radius now being 600 instead of 500 I did a quick check for Huntingdon possibilities;
Rose-Hulman - 549
Mt St Jospeh - 561
Greenville - 576

A few others now in range are Hanover, Franklin, Ferrum, Averett(since they are moving to ODAC), ETBU. Could be others that I didn't think to check

636 between W&L and Huntingdon unfortunately. Birmingham Southern is now 559 away from W&L. Not that I think any of those 3 teams gets a home game, but it is interesting for the future.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 14, 2021, 09:55:34 AM
Good job by the Hawks yesterday going over to Lagrange and taking care of business. It was a good start with a couple of early scores but then slacked for a bit and let them hang around. A couple of scores in the second helped to pull away and two big plays early in the third pretty much iced it and we were able to get the starters off the field in the 4th and play the young guys.
On to the playoffs. Staying in Alabama? Flight to Texas? Flight to Oregon? Something else? Of course my vote is to stay in Alabama this round but we'll see.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on November 14, 2021, 11:09:17 AM
I'm hoping you guys stay in Alabama, but not in Montgomery.  ;)

I would expect a much better game the second time around, and y'all will give us our home game we were supposed to have last season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 14, 2021, 11:30:30 AM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on November 14, 2021, 11:09:17 AM
I'm hoping you guys stay in Alabama, but not in Montgomery.  ;)

I would expect a much better game the second time around, and y'all will give us our home game we were supposed to have last season.

That indeed is the projection by the D3fb braintrust (https://d3football.com/playoffs/2021/our-projected-bracket).
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 14, 2021, 08:09:32 PM
Congrats to BSC for getting into the playoffs.

I sure hope The Hawks can have a better showing against BSC than we did earlier this year. They didnt appear to have much weaknesses and were dominant in the game with us.

Keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 15, 2021, 10:55:54 AM
I was finally able to go see Methodist play this season live and in person (youth sports take most Saturdays which is a good problem to have).  First thing the lights are a nice addition.  I made a huge difference in the atmosphere in my opinion.  I know the score was lopsided but it is amazing how one play can change a game.  Methodist went into half up 17-7.  The second half started with a trade of punts.  NCWC started their second possession on their own 1 after a great punt by Methodist.   The Battling Bishops took and marched the ball to first and goal at the 2.  A TLF on a run play backed them up to second and goal at the 4.  NCWC threw an out ball which a Monarch FR DB jumped and picked off at the 1 yard line.  Methodist took and marched 99 yards (a 69 yard catch and run made it a little easier) to score making it 24-7 and they never looked back.  That was a 10-14 point swing on that pick.  Methodist could not stop the run but it never seemed to matter. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 15, 2021, 11:03:45 AM
Congratulations to Huntingdon.  A rematch from week 2 awaits.  I believe Huntingdon has improved a ton since that game.  For the Hawks to win this time they need to limit/eliminate the turnovers and stop/slow down BSU rushing attack.  GO HAWKS!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 15, 2021, 01:46:24 PM
Yeah the second half of the first meeting was arguably the worst half in our program's history. I guess some of the early games in the first season in 2003 could've had similarities but none of those had any significance of a big rivalry game. We're definitely looking for a better performance in our 'do-over' this week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on November 15, 2021, 10:47:31 PM
I expect a much better game this time around.  Huntingdon couldn't hang on to the ball in the first game, I expect that to be much different this time.  Although if you want to play it the same way, I'm ok with that too.

How many Hawks fans headed to BHM this weekend???
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 15, 2021, 11:27:27 PM
Considering the good turnouts we had at Berry in '17 and '19 I expect us to have a big crowd for this one. Do you know if BSC is bringing in extra seating?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on November 16, 2021, 08:20:32 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 15, 2021, 11:27:27 PM
Considering the good turnouts we had at Berry in '17 and '19 I expect us to have a big crowd for this one. Do you know if BSC is bringing in extra seating?

I wish we would.  We need permanent stands in the visitors side anyway.  For games with y'all, LaGrange, Berry and Suwanee we could for sure use them.  I really liked Berry's home stadium set up, if we could somehow match what they have going on I'd be happy.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 16, 2021, 09:07:16 AM
They had visitors seating early on. Never knew why they got rid of it.
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Post by: jknezek on November 16, 2021, 09:33:06 AM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on November 16, 2021, 08:20:32 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 15, 2021, 11:27:27 PM
Considering the good turnouts we had at Berry in '17 and '19 I expect us to have a big crowd for this one. Do you know if BSC is bringing in extra seating?

I wish we would.  We need permanent stands in the visitors side anyway.  For games with y'all, LaGrange, Berry and Suwanee we could for sure use them.  I really liked Berry's home stadium set up, if we could somehow match what they have going on I'd be happy.

I used to love going to B-SC and parking my old motorhome on the hill behind the endzone and tailgating with the family once or twice a year. Then they started selling those spots and, since I really have no connection to B-SC, it was no longer worth it. But I agree, that stadium needs some seating on the visitor side. Especially since the band takes up a good bit of the stadium seating anyway.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on November 16, 2021, 02:59:23 PM
Quote from: jknezek on November 16, 2021, 09:33:06 AM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on November 16, 2021, 08:20:32 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 15, 2021, 11:27:27 PM
Considering the good turnouts we had at Berry in '17 and '19 I expect us to have a big crowd for this one. Do you know if BSC is bringing in extra seating?

I wish we would.  We need permanent stands in the visitors side anyway.  For games with y'all, LaGrange, Berry and Suwanee we could for sure use them.  I really liked Berry's home stadium set up, if we could somehow match what they have going on I'd be happy.

I used to love going to B-SC and parking my old motorhome on the hill behind the endzone and tailgating with the family once or twice a year. Then they started selling those spots and, since I really have no connection to B-SC, it was no longer worth it. But I agree, that stadium needs some seating on the visitor side. Especially since the band takes up a good bit of the stadium seating anyway.

We no longer have a band..... We have had high band at one game, and a what looked like a basketball pep band at a game.  Hopefully with us making the playoffs this season, especially if we can make a run, the school will see fit to restart the band and some stadium updates.  All it really takes is someone donating the money for it.
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Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 18, 2021, 04:44:16 PM
All-Conference teams came out.  Congratulations to all those honored.  I was pretty close on my predictions.  Cotney won OPOTY, Crank won OROTY, Canady won DPOTY, and I missed the DPOTY which went to Grady from LaGrange.  The inaugural special teams player of the year went to Praylow from Methodist.  No surprise as to the coach of the year in Turk from Huntingdon.  Of the 51 players honored (there are 52 on the team but Praylow from Methodist was a RET and a WR nomination) 23 were seniors, 17 were juniors, 7 were sophomores, and 4 were freshman. 

Huntingdon led the way with 12 selections compromised of 7 first team and 5 second team with 7 coming from the offensive side. 
Methodist was next with 11 selections (10 players) 6 first team and 5 second team with the bulk on offense again with 6 selections. 
Averett was next in line with 10 selections 6 first team and 4 second team with 6 selections on defense and 3 WRs. 
Brevard had 8 selections 5 first team and 3 second team with 6 on defense. 
NCWC had 4 all on the second team with 3 coming from the offensive side. 
LaGrange had 3 with 2 coming on the first team and 1 on the second team.
SOVA had 2 selections then Maryville and Greensboro had one each.

Of note returning:
Huntingdon returns a trio of offensive skill in QB (JR), RB (SO), and WR (JR) along with an OL, LB, and S
Methodist returns a trio of offensive skill as well in QB (SO), RB (S), and WR (JR) along with 2 OL but only one on D a CB
Averett only returns one OL and one DL
Brevard also hit hard by graduation only returns a RB and a LB
Every other squad returns their all-conference performers
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on November 19, 2021, 01:33:16 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 15, 2021, 11:27:27 PM
Considering the good turnouts we had at Berry in '17 and '19 I expect us to have a big crowd for this one. Do you know if BSC is bringing in extra seating?

Temporary bleachers have been brought in for this game.  I'm expecting a huge crowd tomorrow on the Hilltop.  Maybe this will jumpstart a campaign to get more permanent stadium seats built. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 20, 2021, 07:58:25 PM
Congrats to BSC on the win today. I thought we did a lot of the things we needed and played well enough to win but a couple of mistakes were enough to make the difference. The missed FG in the second followed by the bad turnover right at the end of the first half that basically gave BSC 7 points was pretty much the difference. Of course there was also the BSC interception at the goal line early in the second where the DB committed blatant PI(big two handed shove of the WR) that wasn't called was a big swing in momentum. But sometimes you get the calls and sometimes you don't. We just didn't do quite enough to get the win.

Go Hawks!
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Post by: BSCpanthers on November 20, 2021, 08:54:54 PM
It was a good game.  I was expecting a better game then the first time we played, and that's what we got.  The refs kept the flags in their pockets for most fo the game, let the boys play.  Our defense won this game for us today.  Our offense just couldn't put the game away they have most of the season. 

Y'all's QB was a handful all day.  Holding call on a QB run for a TD that got called back hurt you guys as well. 

I was worried after you guys nearly broke the opening kickoff, but still drove for a quick TD that we were going to fall on our face.  But BSC responded with a TD of their own to even it out and I think that helped the guys settle into the game. 

Good crowd, beautiful day for football and didn't see any major injuries.  See you guys in September, same field, same result.   ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 20, 2021, 09:03:06 PM
Yep, another early season gauntlet for the Hawks next year. I hear Linfield is coming to Montgomery for the opener. Love it!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on November 20, 2021, 09:08:21 PM
Linfield won today. You guys are getting some big teams out of conference.  Makes those exciting, and if you win, you get a nice jump in the rankings.

I'm sure we have you guys and Lagrange on our OOC schedule as usual. 
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Post by: DGPugh on November 20, 2021, 09:39:40 PM
Good Season for the Hawks
Congrats to BSC, good win..............now... win again next week. I'll be pulling for yall
Keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2021, 02:10:38 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 20, 2021, 09:03:06 PM
Yep, another early season gauntlet for the Hawks next year. I hear Linfield is coming to Montgomery for the opener. Love it!
When McMurry came in 2007, the players really enjoyed the museums and the historical places in Montgomery. I am sure that Linfield will take the opportunity to see the history there.

One other thing Hawks88, I work in a Federally Qualified Health Clinic (FQHC, or "Medicaid Clinic") here in Tyler. Even though the patients in the clinic, (who are 1/3rd white, 1/3rd black, 1/3rd Hispanic) might be asked to "check a box" for ethnicity or race, there are essentially no lines or distinctions between the "races". A good 30% of the babies in the clinic are at least "25% mixed-race", that is, one grandparent is of a different race.

I am sure that you are seeing that in Alabama, too.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan12 on November 22, 2021, 11:11:29 AM
Belhaven coming to the USA South.

https://www.usasouth.net/general/2021-22/releases/20211119qluuy0
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 22, 2021, 11:15:32 AM
Welcome aboard Belhaven. Much shorter trip for us than Averett who they will be replacing. And adds another team to the west division for all other sports.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2021, 01:48:05 PM
Quote from: justafan12 on November 22, 2021, 11:11:29 AM
Belhaven coming to the USA South.

https://www.usasouth.net/general/2021-22/releases/20211119qluuy0
... and I will bet Mississippi University for Women shortly after that.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: umhb2001 on November 22, 2021, 06:57:47 PM
I guess Belhaven didn't like getting beat by HSU and UMHB. Oh well.

No, we aren't moving to D2!

They were really good this year and I hate they are leaving.
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Post by: Pat Coleman on November 22, 2021, 06:59:17 PM
MUW has already committed to the SLIAC.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 22, 2021, 08:50:09 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 22, 2021, 06:59:17 PM
MUW has already committed to the SLIAC.
Thanks. I forgot.

But 430 miles southeast of St Louis makes MUW in Columbus MS the Sul Ross State of mid-America.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 27, 2021, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 21, 2021, 02:10:38 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on November 20, 2021, 09:03:06 PM
Yep, another early season gauntlet for the Hawks next year. I hear Linfield is coming to Montgomery for the opener. Love it!
When McMurry came in 2007, the players really enjoyed the museums and the historical places in Montgomery. I am sure that Linfield will take the opportunity to see the history there.


I remember when you came and we spoke :), I saw also where u spoke of the AU vs evil bamma game on SAA board :)
AU lost in 4 Ot... good game, so hope u didnt take the bet :)

i am retired from AU now, just farming, not treating any horses. I pray yall are all well
Stay safe and keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 01, 2021, 01:40:21 PM
From the 35,000 foot perspective, I am glad that Belhaven has joined the USA South, especially for football. Now that LaCollege has gone back to NAIA, they were way out there.  I think they can be successful in that conference, may be even more successful.

They should push Huntingdon in football.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan12 on December 03, 2021, 03:10:34 PM
Well after 6 years of softball and 3 years of football I am leaving the ASC and now joining the USA South for one final year of football as a parent/fan (my son plays football at Belhaven).  Looking forward to visiting the new schools but since I live in Texas the travel will be a rough.  Currently looking for a good credit card with frequent flyer points if you have any suggestions.  Hopefully the football schedules will come out quickly so I can start making plans.

My only regret is in all my years of ASC parenting I never went to Sul Ross.  It was either a scheduling conflict with another kid or a injury that kept me from going.  Would have been nice to see the area. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 03, 2021, 09:47:46 PM
Quote from: justafan12 on December 03, 2021, 03:10:34 PM
Well after 6 years of softball and 3 years of football I am leaving the ASC and now joining the USA South for one final year of football as a parent/fan (my son plays football at Belhaven).  Looking forward to visiting the new schools but since I live in Texas the travel will be a rough.  Currently looking for a good credit card with frequent flyer points if you have any suggestions.  Hopefully the football schedules will come out quickly so I can start making plans.

My only regret is in all my years of ASC parenting I never went to Sul Ross.  It was either a scheduling conflict with another kid or a injury that kept me from going.  Would have been nice to see the area.
The best month to visit Big Bend is March.   ;)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on December 08, 2021, 03:01:30 PM
All Region posted today.  From the USAC

1st team Averett DL Tristen Quick and Huntingdon DB/ST Fred Flavors

2nd team Brevard K Stamati Damalos and Brevard LB Steffon Canady

3rd team RB Methodist Keyshaun Pete (SO), Averett OL Johnny Alston (SO), Methodist OL Nick Wiggins (JR), Methodist RET Kobe Praylow (JR), Brevard DL Jerome Bass, and Methodist DB Nate Jones

Congratulations to all of the folks that were recognized.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on December 31, 2021, 07:04:36 PM
We have a better idea of the strength of the SEC West.

The American Athletic Conference runner-up beat the last place team in the SEC West by 4 points.
The American Athletic Conference champion gets monkey-stomped by the SEC West Champion by 21 points.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on January 01, 2022, 09:26:59 PM
Big Huzzah to Huntingdon for scheduling LINFIELD this September 2022.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on January 06, 2022, 02:28:50 PM
With Belhaven coming into the USA South, can they compete with Huntingdon for conference leader? 

Brevard, if you want to be mentioned in that, you have to win the conference first.......
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on January 06, 2022, 10:09:09 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on January 01, 2022, 09:26:59 PM
Big Huzzah to Huntingdon for scheduling LINFIELD this September 2022.
Looking forward to this. Can't wait to see how we measure up.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on January 06, 2022, 10:32:15 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on January 06, 2022, 02:28:50 PM
With Belhaven coming into the USA South, can they compete with Huntingdon for conference leader? 

Brevard, if you want to be mentioned in that, you have to win the conference first.......
It looks like Belhaven's QB and top RB were both covid seniors. We'll have to see if they have replacements who are able to keep up the momentum they built this past season.
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Post by: justafan12 on January 07, 2022, 12:05:51 PM
Belhaven only had 6 seniors, 3 DL, QB, RB and DB.  A 2nd team all conference RB returns as well as a stable of others.  They do return an All American DL plus they have made offers to a lot of 2022 DLs.  Might struggle there as the young guys develop.  QB will be the question mark for them. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: justafan12 on January 12, 2022, 09:55:47 AM
I am in dire need of information related to writing either a medical hardship waiver or a Legislative Relief Waiver.  My son has 1 year of NCAA eligibility remaining but is out of semesters.  If anyone has some info or links they can send me I would really appreciate it.  We thought we were good but found out yesterday that he could not participate.

I will be posting this on several different boards so if you see this multiple times I am sorry.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on March 22, 2022, 02:47:00 PM
Wow, over two months with no activity here. Hope everyone is doing well this off-season. With a little time wasting during/after lunch this is what I have found.
Just poking around websites seeing who has schedules posted and find NC Wesleyan, Brevard and Belhaven have theirs up. It seems like Huntingdon usually publishes theirs around the middle of March so I'm kind of expecting it any time now. Going by what I see, what I assume, and what I've heard this is what we have so far:

9/3   Linfield
9/10   at BSC
9/17   at? Guilford?
9/24   Belhaven
10/1   
10/8   
10/15   Brevard
10/22   
10/29 *Homecoming   
11/5   at NC Wesleyan
11/12   
   

I had heard a while back that Guilford would be our week 3 ODAC game and judging by USAC and ODAC schedules that I've found that seems like a safe guess as Huntingdon and SVU are the only two USAC teams and RMC and Guilford are the two ODAC's not shown so HC vs GC and RMC vs SVU matchups make sense. I assume this game would be at Guilford since our trip there in '18 was a no contest and the trip in '20 didn't happen because Covid.

By going to Guilford maybe that would mean that we would have 4 home and 3 away in conference. Flipping the home and away games from last year and with Averett leaving that would leave trips to Maryville and Methodist and home games against two of Greensboro, Lagrange, and SVU. I assume that Lagrange would stay on the schedule so that would leave either Greensboro or SVU being the one that we don't play.

I remember seeing a facebook/twitter post some time ago that homecoming would be 10/29 but don't know the matchup, of course.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 04, 2022, 01:07:48 PM
The new schedule is active on HC's website today. Southern Virginia is the conference game we miss. Can't wait to get started.

Go Hawks!

Sep. 3      Linfield
Sep. 10    at Birmingham Southern
Sep. 17    at Guilford
Sep. 24    Belhaven *
Oct. 1      at Maryville (Tenn.) *
Oct. 15    Brevard *
Oct. 22    at Methodist *
Oct. 29    Greensboro *
Nov. 5      at N.C. Wesleyan *
Nov. 12    LaGrange *
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 04, 2022, 07:11:27 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on April 04, 2022, 01:07:48 PM
The new schedule is active on HC's website today. Southern Virginia is the conference game we miss. Can't wait to get started.

Go Hawks!

Sep. 3      Linfield
Sep. 10    at Birmingham Southern
Sep. 17    at Guilford
Sep. 24    Belhaven *
Oct. 1      at Maryville (Tenn.) *
Oct. 15    Brevard *
Oct. 22    at Methodist *
Oct. 29    Greensboro *
Nov. 5      at N.C. Wesleyan *
Nov. 12    LaGrange *
Great schedule!

You get credit for playing anybody!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on April 19, 2022, 03:25:51 PM
So Methodist is one of the holdouts as far as the schedule release goes.  I was able to piece it together based on all the other ones posted.

Week   Date      H/A           Opponent
Week 1   3-Sep   Home   Shenandoah
Week 2   10-Sep   Away   Guilford
Week 3   17-Sep   Home   W&L
Week 4   24-Sep   Away   LaGrange
Week 5   1-Oct   Home   Belhaven
Week 6   8-Oct   Away   Brevard
Week 7   15-Oct   Away   NCWC
Week 8   22-Oct   Home   Huntingdon
Week 9   29-Oct   Away   SOVA
Week 10   5-Nov   Home   Greensboro
Week 11   12-Nov   BYE           BYE

I am making an assumption that they will play Guilford in OOC since they have played them every year since 1989 with the exception of last year when the game was canceled due to COVID.  They will play 10 straight weeks which is not optimal.  Hopefully they can win the first two OOC before playing W&L.  That will be a big test based on what the Generals typically are.  Home/Away in conference plays out well for the Monarchs and they miss Maryville this season.  I know Belhaven had a good season last year but I cannot tell you what they will look like in 2022.  Brevard away and Huntingdon at home are the games I am circling.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 25, 2022, 02:24:29 PM
So LC dropped Birmingham-Southern to play a club team. Makes no sense.

https://www.lagrangepanthers.com/sports/fball/2022-23/schedule
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on April 25, 2022, 06:24:10 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on April 25, 2022, 02:24:29 PM
So LC dropped Birmingham-Southern to play a club team. Makes no sense.

https://www.lagrangepanthers.com/sports/fball/2022-23/schedule
No it doesn't.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on April 25, 2022, 07:22:42 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 25, 2022, 06:24:10 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on April 25, 2022, 02:24:29 PM
So LC dropped Birmingham-Southern to play a club team. Makes no sense.

https://www.lagrangepanthers.com/sports/fball/2022-23/schedule
No it doesn't.

Makes them either look scared or look like idiots for not having something better lined up before dropping us from their schedule.
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Post by: Hawks88 on June 13, 2022, 10:33:08 AM
It looks like Huntingdon is starting the season with back-to-back night games. The Linfield game that had been listed as TBD before is now listed as 6PM. Sounds good to me. 82 days 'til football!

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on June 13, 2022, 10:21:09 PM
Those day games in September are brutal to the players and fans.  That turf just absorbs the heat and gets insanely hot.
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Post by: scottiedoug on July 15, 2022, 02:31:19 PM
USASouth split. New conference info here:

https://www.mcscots.com/general/2022-23/releases/20220713lm1gj3
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on July 15, 2022, 11:33:36 PM
Football members will continue to play in USA South.  Will be interesting to see if the new conference does jump into the football business once the 6 team rule takes effect. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on July 16, 2022, 12:49:18 AM
Huntingdon vs. LINFIELD  is just great for the Oregon program.
We aren't sure what we have but the LINFIELD name usually comes ready to play.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 17, 2022, 10:10:01 AM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on July 15, 2022, 11:33:36 PM
Football members will continue to play in USA South.  Will be interesting to see if the new conference does jump into the football business once the 6 team rule takes effect.
Would need 3 more football programs, 1 in the east and 2 in the west. I'm not sure any of the existing conference members would want to add football. Of course, twenty something years ago I never imagined Huntingdon would have football so I guess anything is possible.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 17, 2022, 10:15:04 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on July 16, 2022, 12:49:18 AM
Huntingdon vs. LINFIELD  is just great for the Oregon program.
We aren't sure what we have but the LINFIELD name usually comes ready to play.
I've really been looking forward to this game. I always enjoy seeing how we measure up in these type games. 48 days!
Are you making the trip?

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 09, 2022, 02:51:03 PM
Well if I understand the new rules as they have changed over the last few years Belhaven and SoVa likely report to campus today and start camp tomorrow.  Everyone else likely reports tomorrow and starts camp on Thursday.  The new acclimation period is 6 days which puts the first day of full pads next Tuesday for the bulk of the teams.  Only 8 days of full pads prior to the first game.  This will make it tough for any team relying on youth on either line of scrimmage.  Don't get me wrong I am all for the safety of the kids but not sure I would have felt prepared as a player.  This could be an advantage to the teams that return the most experience as well as the teams that have the best teachers as coaches.  I can smell it in the air as the saying goes.  I hope all the teams have a safe and productive camp and do the dang thing in the OOC schedule.  I think we will learn a lot about:

Huntingdon- plays Linfield and BSU in OOC both ranked in the D3 pre-season poll
Maryville- plays Centre and Berry in OOC
NCWC- plays Randy Mac and Bridgewater OOC
Belhaven- plays Millsaps and Southwestern OOC
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 10, 2022, 10:36:54 AM
Huntingdon started classes on Monday so everyone is already reported to campus. I'm just waiting on an updated roster to be posted but I assume it won't be up until at least after the first practice on Thursday. The other fall sports seem to be updated but they've probably already started practicing as they mostly have games scheduled on 9/1.
We should have plenty of experience back and shouldn't have to count on too many of the first year guys to have to step in immediately. I know of 2 guys who were supposed to be coming back for their covid-5th year but won't know if there are more until I see the roster.

Definitely looking forward to seeing how we do those first two games.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 10, 2022, 06:07:38 PM
Ask and you shall receive, I guess. New roster has been posted but not totally updated. New guys don't have numbers or positions listed yet but I see 165 total; 22 Srs, 27 Jrs, 39 Sophs, and 77 Fr. There are 3 likely transfers as 1 Soph and 2 Jrs are new and don't have numbers and positions.

I see three 5th year guys listed: Karl Dorn, LB, who I knew was coming back; Zack Self, H, who I thought I heard was coming back but not sure; and Cole Starr, PK, who was out with injury last year and I remember now was likely to come back. There's a fourth Sr who was listed as a Sr last year, Matt McCree, RB, who didn't see any action and isn't on any rosters before last year. I was told that Fred Flavors, DB, was coming back but he isn't listed. I don't know if he decided not to come back or if he was omitted accidentally.

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on August 10, 2022, 06:21:36 PM
Flavors has elected to take his extra year at Samford.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 10, 2022, 07:05:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 10, 2022, 06:21:36 PM
Flavors has elected to take his extra year at Samford.
Thanks, Pat. Obviously not aware of that. Hopefully he does well. Not sure why they have him listed as a junior? lol
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 18, 2022, 04:53:49 PM
I have started my deep dive into the preseason of the USAC.  I will start with my team.
Methodist finished 2021 7-2 (lost one game due to COVID) and sole place of second in the conference.  The outlook for 2022 looks pretty good in my opinion. 
Starting on offense the Monarchs return All-Conference QB Bullins who is a RS-Super JR.  He progressively got better as the season went on last year and I hope for similar growth this year.  He is joined in the backfield by returning all-conference/all-region JR RB Pete and SR RB Eaddy.  They are fortunate to have all 5 OL returning highlighted by a trio of SRs with the C Wiggins (all-region/all-conference).  The WR room takes a hit with the graduation of McNeil and I believe the SO Cooper didn't make it back.  That said there is still talent headlined by the SR WR/RET and reigning STPOTY Praylow. 
On defense the Monarchs will rely on their safetys led by Hill and Grady.  The LBers will be led by Supper-SR Christian.  The DL has two very talented bookends in Voyles and Boyd.  Returning at CB is the SO all-conference performer Grate.  There does not appear to be a ton of returning depth on that side of the ball. 
The Monarchs should be able to beat Shenandoah and Guilford but the W&L game is a toss up in my opinion in the OOC schedule.  We do have the advantage of hosting it in Fayetteville when it is still going to be 90 in the shade at kickoff.  We host 2 of the top 3 other teams in conference starting with Belhaven who I am going to have to learn more about as the season progresses.  That is followed by a trip to Brevard the next week.  Then the matchup of the two top returning teams in conference happens on Homecoming Oct 22nd in NC VS the Hawks. 

I think 7 and 3 is the lowest this team should finish baring injuries (at least on paper) and it shapes up for Methodist to compete for their first run at the playoffs in my opinion.  I believe this team will go as far as the strong right arm of their signal caller can take them.

I will try and look at the other teams as we inch closer to week one.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on August 18, 2022, 05:24:26 PM
BSC scrimmaged at LaGrange today.  From what I've hear we "won" the scrimmage 7-6 for a half of play, then they went into a 7-on-7 play.  If any LaGrange people were there, let me know how we all looked.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 24, 2022, 11:03:58 AM
The USA South preseason poll was released yesterday.

1.   Huntingdon* (6)   62
2.   Brevard (1)   51
3.   Methodist   49
4.   Belhaven (2)   48
5.   N.C. Wesleyan   34
6.   Maryville   33
7.   LaGrange   21
8.   Southern Virginia   17
9.   Greensboro   9

https://www.usasouth.net/sports/fball/2022-23/releases/20220817hm1muc
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 25, 2022, 02:36:22 PM
Deep dive #2 - Huntingdon 1st in conference in 2021 (8-0) and represented the conference in the playoffs

The Hawks return a ton off of last years conference winner.  Most importantly is reigning OPOTY at QB Cotney.  He is joined in the backfield by a returning all-conference runner and the #2 and #3 rushers.  The all-conference HB/TE Self is back for what feels like his 10th season.  The best WR didn't make it back but other starters did.  Up front it looks like only 2 starters return but one was an all-conference performer.  The defense will be anchored by 3 starters at LBer.  Half of the secondary is back and 2 returning DL.  The K and P are back as well.

The Hawks have without a doubt the toughest non-conference matchups highlighted by Linfield and Birmingham Southern (the Hawks owe BSU for the 2 losses last season).  A split would be great but even 1-2 heading into conference play doesn't mean that the sky is falling in Alabama.  They get Belhaven and Brevard at home while having to travel to Methodist towards the end of October.  The bye falls right in the middle of the schedule and directly before the Brevard game.

Huntington has won at least a piece of 5 of the last 7 conference championships and there is no reason the expectations will not be the same in 2022.  I believe the worst case scenario is 7-3 and if they can catch the Wildcats by surprise in week one (I think Linfield is breaking in a new QB) then lookout for the Hawks this season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 25, 2022, 03:44:04 PM
Well the Brevard pre-season outlook could be subject to change if/when the 2022 roster is posted.  The Tornados are coming off of a 6-4 season that all but the Shorter game were decided by one score.  A couple of different bounces of the ball and they may have been looking at 9-1 and a trip to the playoffs.  I am basing the following on the 2021 roster assuming everyone who was a SR left and everyone else came back.

Brevard was hit pretty hard (I think) by graduation.  On offense the SO QB should be returning as well as most of the backfield highlighted by all-conference runner, Yoder.  The starting WRs, TE, and FB are all gone but there are some receiving yards returning.  Only 2 of the 5 starters up front are slated to return.  The defense is missing all-conference performers at all levels but return 7 starters highlighted by the rising SR LBer, Naylor.  They lost their all-conference K but I believe the P will be back.

Out of conference schedule starts with D2 Shorter (historically bottom of their conference) and then Apprentice school next up.  These are followed by a matchup with Averett then the bye before conference play gets going.  They get a "tune up" game so to speak against Greensboro and then in back to back weeks host Methodist then travel to Huntingdon.  They luck out in year one and don't have to take the long road trip to Mississippi.

The last few years this program has hung their hat on the defensive side of the ball.  I see nothing that would change that in my mind.  This is certainly a top half of the conference team but I'm not sure if they have enough this season to win it.  The floor would be 6-4  and if it all breaks the Tornado's way 8-2.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 26, 2022, 10:54:04 AM
Deep dive #4 the Blazers from Belhaven.  They are coming off the programs best season at 7-3.  They return a ton of talent that competed in a conference with a couple of pretty good teams in it.

On offense I believe the strength will be the OL where they return all 5 starters 3 of which were all-conference performers.  They return one of their stud RBs as well so I would think leaning on the running game will be the first order of business.  They return depth at the WR position including an all-conference TE.  The biggest question will be who replaces the QB.  There are two JRs and 2 SOs on the roster.  I watched a little of the coaches spring rap up and the competition was not settled in the spring so fall camp should have shook things out.  On defense they return an absolute monster on the DL along with 2 all-conference DBs and an all-conference LBer.

I would anticipate a 2-0 record in their OOC portion of the schedule.  Then comes the bye then 8 straight conference games (I am assuming one of those games count as an OOC game but I am not 100% sure).  They drew the short end of the stick with the top three teams on the pre-season pole occurring away from Mississippi.

I have no real knowledge but it seems like the head coach has this program pointed in the upward direction.  I would say that the floor of this team is 7-3 and the ceiling is a perfect regular season and the conference representative in the playoffs.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 29, 2022, 11:08:37 AM
I'm still sorting through the other teams rosters but we have football!  Week ones matchups are as follows:

On Thursday night SVU hosts Wilmington.  Last season SVU went to Ohio and got the win in OT.  I'll take the Knights at home in regulation this time.
Also on Thursday the conference newcomer Belhaven plays instate vs a very familiar opponent in Millsaps.  Last season was lopsided and this season will likely result in the same.
Guliford and Greensboro play in the annual Soup Bowl.  The Pride tragically lost one of their players late this summer when starting RB Shy'heem Requan Khalil Clemons passed away unexpectedly.  The team rallies together and gets a big win in his memory.
Methodist avenges a bad loss from 2021 when Shenandoah comes to town.  The Monarchs offense will put up points but the thing I will be keeping an eye on is the other side of the ball.  MU wins and hopefully comfortably.
Brevard gets Shorter at home this year.  Last season Shorter got the better of the Tornados but that was aided by 4 turnovers that led to short fields and easy points.  Brevard's QB is a year older and they eliminate some of those mistakes and win at home to start the season.
Berry travels to Maryville who will be breaking in a new QB.  Berry gets back to their winning ways after a disappointing season by giving the Scotts a L on the resume.
Randy-Mac hosts NCWC under the lights in Ashland.  Randy-Mac has too much talent and wins easily.
Finally the measuring stick game for the conference.  Huntingdon welcomes Linfield from Oregon.  I think this will be a competitive game until the very end and the homefield advantage of the Alabama humidity helps but Linfield squeaks out a W.

Conference record 5-3
USAC vs ODAC 2-1
USAC vs SAA 1-1
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on August 31, 2022, 06:11:51 PM
Quoteand if they can catch the Wildcats by surprise in week one (I think Linfield is breaking in a new QB)
Truth. It's also true LINFIELD  has had 5 D3 All American quarterbacks since 2003.
It's a coveted position.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 01, 2022, 12:02:06 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on August 31, 2022, 06:11:51 PM
Quoteand if they can catch the Wildcats by surprise in week one (I think Linfield is breaking in a new QB)
Truth. It's also true LINFIELD  has had 5 D3 All American quarterbacks since 2003.
It's a coveted position.

Seven of Linfield's 22 or so D-III seasons have been with an All-American at quarterback.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 02, 2022, 09:38:12 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 10, 2022, 07:05:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 10, 2022, 06:21:36 PM
Flavors has elected to take his extra year at Samford.
Thanks, Pat. Obviously not aware of that. Hopefully he does well. Not sure why they have him listed as a junior? lol
According to the participation tab in last nights box score, Fred Flavors started for Samford. Also recorded a tackle. Way to go Fred.

https://samfordsports.com/sports/football/stats/2022/-8-kennesaw-state/boxscore/12303
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on September 02, 2022, 03:32:56 PM
I just knew you were going to correct me,.PC.
Let's go Huntingdon! No injuries
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 02, 2022, 04:43:57 PM
I mean, I generally provide context when people make vague posts that could be misleading.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 02, 2022, 07:42:43 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 02, 2022, 03:32:56 PM
I just knew you were going to correct me,.PC.
Let's go Huntingdon! No injuries
And hoping the weather cooperates and we don't get any lightning. Thunderstorms possible in the forecast.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on September 02, 2022, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 02, 2022, 07:42:43 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 02, 2022, 03:32:56 PM
I just knew you were going to correct me,.PC.
Let's go Huntingdon! No injuries
And hoping the weather cooperates and we don't get any lightning. Thunderstorms possible in the forecast.

Get that big win and then bring your show to Birmingham next weekend.  Let's make next weekend be bigger than it already is.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 03, 2022, 10:13:27 PM
Linfield 41 Huntingdon 34.

Good game Huntingdon. That should be a good result against a regionally ranked opponent.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on September 03, 2022, 10:38:26 PM
Coulda won it, Ralph.
Good job Huntingdon

Come West
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 03, 2022, 10:42:10 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 03, 2022, 10:38:26 PM
Coulda won it, Ralph.
Good job Huntingdon

Come West
Does Huntingdon go to McMinnville next year?

I remember when McMurry played Huntingdon 15 years ago. The trip to the Civil Rights Museum in downtown Montgomery was a highlight for the team.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 04, 2022, 12:31:26 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 03, 2022, 10:42:10 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on September 03, 2022, 10:38:26 PM
Coulda won it, Ralph.
Good job Huntingdon

Come West
Does Huntingdon go to McMinnville next year?

I remember when McMurry played Huntingdon 15 years ago. The trip to the Civil Rights Museum in downtown Montgomery was a highlight for the team.
I think we were supposed to make the trip but the opportunity to play Berry in week 1 for the foreseeable future came up so it turned into a one and done. If we were to lose a conference team in the near future and get back to needing a third non-conference game again then I could see them trying to work that trip out.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 04, 2022, 12:38:15 AM
Couldn't be prouder of our guys' effort but disappointed we couldn't pull that one out. Checking out the box score and as I suspected that was a very evenly played game. A play here or there goes a different way and it could have been a different outcome.
Time to work on cleaning up a few issues and get ready for a big one in B'ham next week.
Hoping for safe travels back home for the Linfield folks.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 04, 2022, 12:16:30 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on August 29, 2022, 11:08:37 AM


Conference record 5-3
USAC vs ODAC 2-1
USAC vs SAA 1-1
1-7 weekend for the conference, not too good. Sorry we couldn't help a little.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 06, 2022, 02:28:32 PM
It did not go well for the conference at all this past weekend.  SOVA gave up 7 passing TDs vs Wilmington.  Belhaven carried the flag for the conference.  14 penalties for 137 yards and 3 INTs killed Greensboro.  Very disappointed in the Monarchs in Fayetteville.  Did not run the ball well and did not protect the QB well.  I am going to try and stay positive and say that hopefully Shenandoah has improved.  It looks like Brevard did not return their QB (or he was hurt) and they could not run the ball against Shorter.  Marryville had a good showing against Berry as the game went down to the final seconds (allowing a 50 YD TD pass with 16 seconds left has to hurt though).  Randy Mac did about what I thought they would against NCWC.  I watched a fair amount of the second half of the Huntingdon game.  A few different bounces of the ball and the score could have been different.

I was way off in week one but I will stay positive until proven different
This week:
Greensboro vs Gallaudet- I'm banking on the Pride throwing less than 3 INTs and less than 137 penalty yards
Brevard vs Apprentice- The Ship Builders beat Averett last weekend.  Make it two in a row
SOVA vs Bridgewater- I think SOVA keeps it closer but ultimately starts off 0-2
LaGrange vs Berry- LaGrange has their first game of the season and Berry is coming off a close win
NCWC vs Shenandoah- Shenandoah is 2-0 against the USAC
Maryville vs Centre- I hope Maryville found the answer at QB and get the W this weekend
Methodist vs Guilford- Methodist wins a high scoring game under the lights in Greensboro
Huntingdon vs BSU- The Hawks are mad they let one slip away.  They rally the troupes for a big W
Southwestern vs Belhaven- Only 2-0 team in the league is the newcomer

Conference record week 2 hopefully 5-3
USAC vs ODAC 1-2
USAC vs SAA 2-1
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 10, 2022, 10:11:50 PM
Congrats Huntingdon, 38-35 winners over B-SC.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on September 10, 2022, 10:13:22 PM
Way to go, Huntingdon

You did your job.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on September 11, 2022, 01:08:51 AM
Just got home from the BSC-Huntingdon game.  For the first time in 4 years, Huntingdon took home the Wesley Cup, 38-35.  It was a back and forth game with Huntingdon getting the last score to take the victory.  It was a great crowd, BSC really needs to add on to our stadium. 

Congrats to Huntingdon, it's one hurt, but you guys earned it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 13, 2022, 10:52:37 AM
Closer last week on my picks but no cigar.  The Hawks and the balance they showed in the air and on the ground will be huge for them this season.  The DL Brown from Belhaven is clearly a monster and hopefully continues his dominance (except against the Monarchs on Oct 1st).  Here's how I see it in week 3:

Bridgewater over NCWC.  The Bishops go 0-3 against the USAC and the scoring margin is not close at all.
Methodist over W&L.  This is likely a homer pick but if the Monarchs can at least slow the General's ground attack I think they stand a chance.  This should be one of the closer games of the weekend.
Randy-Mac over SVU.  Again another lopsided scoring affair.
LaGrange over Ferrum.  I believe this is a tossup but LaGrange was close with Berry at half lase week before the flood gates opened.
Huntingdon over Guilford.  Long trip and a big win.
Shenandoah over Maryville.  I think the Hornets might be pretty good this year.  I would be happy of the Scotts proved me wrong though.
Hampden-Sydney over Greensboro.  Long season for the Pride
Averett over Brevard.  The Tornados look to have taken a step back this year.  I thought on D they would but I also thought the O would be better


Heading into conference play if I am correct (the first two weeks show I likely will not be) we will be looking at:

2-0 Belhaven
2-1 Huntingdon (1 quality win and 1 quality loss)
2-1 Methodist
1-1 LaGrange
0-15 for the rest of the conference
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 15, 2022, 03:05:51 PM
Looks as though we're doing the week 3 USAC/ODAC matchups again next year? Same teams playing each other with home field swapped.
I suppose we have to finish the contract but hopefully it's just a two year thing and we can get to the full round robin for conference play. I assume the mention of 2024 is a typo and should be 2023.

https://www.usasouth.net/sports/fball/2022-23/releases/20220913mrexfb
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 17, 2022, 01:34:55 PM
This has started as the proverbial 'trap game'. Hawks not ready to play today. 3 turnovers in 1st quarter. 7-7 late first.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 17, 2022, 02:25:23 PM
Hawks up 27-7 at the half. Still not playing well offensively with 5 turnovers and way too many penalties.
Defense is playing well. GCQ with 99 yds of offense. 75 of those yards were the TD on the first play of game.

Wishing someone would let the announcer know that we are the Hawks, not Red Hawks.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 17, 2022, 03:47:48 PM
47-7 final at Guilford. After a rough start by the offense we ended up with 573 yds to 150 for Guilford. Our defense played an awesome game after that first play.
Get home and clean up those 6 turnovers and get ready for a big one with Belhaven next week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Cowboy2 on September 17, 2022, 05:26:25 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 17, 2022, 03:47:48 PM
Get home and clean up those 6 turnovers and get ready for a big one with Belhaven next week.

Go Hawks!

That should be a fun one to watch!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 19, 2022, 10:01:54 AM
OOC is finished and here is how I believe the conference stacks up:

1. Huntingdon- The Hawks have picked up where they left off last season.  A close loss to a perennial playoff team to start the season followed up by two wins where the offense showed what a returning OPOTY at QB can do for you.  If they can beat Belhaven next week at home I would expect a 9-1 finish in the regular season and maybe an outside shot at hosting a playoff game

2. Belhaven- This weekend will be the tale of the tape for the conference newcomer.  If they can beat the Hawks in Huntingdon then I believe running the table will be a realistic option.  A 9-1 season would be nothing to sneeze at but with the OOC schedule and where the conference ranks nationally no at large bid will be available.

3-5. Then there appears to be a rather large gap till you get to the third best team and I believe there are 2 or maybe three teams that fit that bill.  You have Maryville (0-3) and Methodist (1-2) who might be ok.  I believe the best the Scotts and the Monarchs can do is play spoiler to either of the first two teaks on the list.  The crazy thing is that they do not play in the regular season so there will be no way to determine which team is better.  Lagrange is a team that is possibly in the running here and they are playing Methodist this coming Saturday.

6. Brevard- I still believe in the coaching for the Tornadoes so there is time to right the ship but there has been little to no offensive output for the first three weeks.

7-8 Both SVU and Greensboro are giving up about 50 PPG on defense but I think both offenses have the ability to score so they should have a punchers chance any given week.

9. NCWC- This looks like it's going to be a long season for the Battling Bishops.  They did play three very good ODAC teams but only scored 2 TDs in those three games to go along with allowing about 50 PPG on defense

I never want to say anyone's season is over after the first three weeks as teams are allowed to grow and improve but this is how I see it from the outside looking in.  With that being said what a matchup in Montgomery this weekend!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 19, 2022, 11:49:43 AM
1. Huntingdon- The Hawks have picked up where they left off last season.  A close loss to a perennial playoff team to start the season followed up by two wins where the offense showed what a returning OPOTY at QB can do for you.  If they can beat Belhaven next week at home I would expect a 9-1 finish in the regular season and maybe an outside shot at hosting a playoff game

I agree.

Berry appears to be a strong contender now.

I can imagine these 1-loss teams in the South if these games fell this way.

UMHB (UWW - WIAC winner)
HSU (UMHB - ASC winner)
Hunt (Linfield - NWC winner)
TUTx (Berry - SAA winner)

Does Huntingdon host or go to Berry?  This should be fun.

Lots of season is left.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Cowboy2 on September 19, 2022, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on September 19, 2022, 11:49:43 AM

I agree.

UMHB (UWW - WIAC winner)
HSU (UMHB - ASC winner)
Hunt (Linfield - NWC winner)
TUTx (Berry - SAA winner)

Does Huntingdon host or go to Berry?  This should be fun.

Lots of season is left.

Love these type of scenarios. The ASC will play out this weekend as will USAC.

But.....
Say HSU, Berry, Belhaven do all win.
Huntington could still have an outside chance if BSC finishes second in SAA 8-2, "if" they only lost to Huntingdon and Berry....as in BSC/Centre/Berry knock each other and Trinity out.

Huntingdon would then be going against an 8-2 UMHB team for one of the final at large bids.  Probably more realistic if BSC goes 9-1 and is the SAA winner. You'd have to consider Huntingdon at 8-2.

Berry and UMHB would need For sure need UWW to win out for strength of schedule in order to host.....Cause if they don't win the WIAC, Linfield has to then be ranked higher and that would help huntingdon at that point in the season. If not would a 9-1 Berry or 9-1 UMHB be shipped off to 10-0 belhaven or maybe to an 10-0 R-MC?

If HSU wins they would host a 9-1 Trinity. UMHB 8-2 would have to travel to 9-1 Huntingdon. 9-1 Berry gets sent Linfield....eliminates regular season match ups and conference 1st round match ups.

Who knows though. Every team controls their own destiny. I do commend all three conferences, ASC, SAA, & USAC for playing some good OOC games early on. I don't think the committee can neglect a 1 or possibly 2 loss runner up from any of these conferences now.

Now if Centre wins out, that could reshuffle everything because of their proximity to some of the northern teams.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Inkblot on September 19, 2022, 10:35:48 PM
Huntingdon is within 600 miles of Mount St. Joseph (HCAC favorite), Greenville (UMAC favorite), and DePauw (defending NCAC champion).
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on September 20, 2022, 08:28:35 AM
Quote from: Inkblot on September 19, 2022, 10:35:48 PM
Huntingdon is within 600 miles of Mount St. Joseph (HCAC favorite), Greenville (UMAC favorite), and DePauw (defending NCAC champion).

Based upon the national committee chair responses last year, he mentioned that there were various teams that were within 600 miles of each other that they chose not to have play each other, because they wanted the teams to have a great playoff experience.  As such, there were a few matchups that in my honest opinion, coming out of Covid that they went with day trips as oppose to having overnight trips.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Etchglow on September 20, 2022, 06:48:27 PM
I'm feeling inadequate now that yall's thread is pinned to the top lol!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 20, 2022, 08:49:56 PM
Apparently we're special. ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 22, 2022, 11:56:55 AM
I was curious so I took a look at both Belhaven and Huntingdon and their season's so far.  Here are my takeaways and what I think we will see this Saturday in Alabama.

Belhaven- Their offense is led by their front and the stable of RB's behind them.  The backs seasons thus far look like this:

Blunt- 121 YPG - 2 TD - long run of 73
Gallashaw- 92 YPG - 2 TD - long run of 65
Daniels- 65 YPG - 2 TD - long run of 86

The QB does not appear to run very much and when he throws it he is looking for Tullo to the tune of 70 YPG.

The defense is anchored by the DL Brown who has 4 sacks and 6.5 TFL on the season.

Huntingdon- The offense is a little more diverse.  They are led by the QB and RB duo

RB McRenyolds- 210 All Purpose YPG - 4 TD
QB Cotney- 292 Total YPG - 10 total TD
WR England - 87 YPG - 3 TD
WR Bradford - 76 YPG - 3 TD - long catch 82

On defense the LB Peppers needs to continue the production he has had so far this season (4.5 sacks and 7 TFL)

I see the game boiling down to a few key points (which in all honesty most games do).

For Belhaven to win-
1. Continue the early success this season offensively with the big plays
2. Force the Hawks into turnovers (Huntingdon has 10 already on the season)
3. Find a way to limit Huntingdon's LB Peppers
4. This is the Blazers first test of the season and there will be adversity.  They need to find a way to weather the storm

For Huntingdon to win -
1. Cotney will need to rely on his legs for a few big plays.  This doesn't have to come with big yardage but a few key third downs will go a long way
2. Limit Belhaven's big plays
3. Protect the ball and limit turnovers
4. Find a way to limit Belhaven's DL Brown

At the end of the day I would expect a game in the high 20's- low 30's as far as scoring goes.  I'm not sure if Vegas has a line on the game but I would say the Hawks would get the 3 PT homefield advantage.  I refuse to pick a winner but I will be tuning in as soon as I get home from my son's flag football game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: crufootball on September 22, 2022, 12:02:16 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on September 22, 2022, 11:56:55 AM
I was curious so I took a look at both Belhaven and Huntingdon and their season's so far.  Here are my takeaways and what I think we will see this Saturday in Alabama.

Belhaven- Their offense is led by their front and the stable of RB's behind them.  The backs seasons thus far look like this:

Blunt- 121 YPG - 2 TD - long run of 73
Gallashaw- 92 YPG - 2 TD - long run of 65
Daniels- 65 YPG - 2 TD - long run of 86

The QB does not appear to run very much and when he throws it he is looking for Tullo to the tune of 70 YPG.

The defense is anchored by the DL Brown who has 4 sacks and 6.5 TFL on the season.

Huntingdon- The offense is a little more diverse.  They are led by the QB and RB duo

RB McRenyolds- 210 All Purpose YPG - 4 TD
QB Cotney- 292 Total YPG - 10 total TD
WR England - 87 YPG - 3 TD
WR Bradford - 76 YPG - 3 TD - long catch 82

On defense the LB Peppers needs to continue the production he has had so far this season (4.5 sacks and 7 TFL)

I see the game boiling down to a few key points (which in all honesty most games do).

For Belhaven to win-
1. Continue the early success this season offensively with the big plays
2. Force the Hawks into turnovers (Huntingdon has 10 already on the season)
3. Find a way to limit Huntingdon's LB Peppers
4. This is the Blazers first test of the season and there will be adversity.  They need to find a way to weather the storm

For Huntingdon to win -
1. Cotney will need to rely on his legs for a few big plays.  This doesn't have to come with big yardage but a few key third downs will go a long way
2. Limit Belhaven's big plays
3. Protect the ball and limit turnovers
4. Find a way to limit Belhaven's DL Brown

At the end of the day I would expect a game in the high 20's- low 30's as far as scoring goes.  I'm not sure if Vegas has a line on the game but I would say the Hawks would get the 3 PT homefield advantage.  I refuse to pick a winner but I will be tuning in as soon as I get home from my son's flag football game.

Great analysis, definitely a game to keep a close eye on. Kind of crazy that Belhaven's first actually game in the USAC could have a huge factor in who wins the conference. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 24, 2022, 08:01:02 PM
The game in Montgomery was as advertised. Two good, evenly matched teams trading blows with the Hawks coming out on top.
I knew Casey Peppers' name was being called an awful lot. The guy had a day. 10 solo tackles, 13 assists and 3 TFL's for 15 yds.

Celebrate tonight then back to work to get ready for a trip to Maryville. I'm expecting that to be another tough one. I know coach Fox will have them ready.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 25, 2022, 09:44:16 PM
Congrats Hawks. Run the table.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 26, 2022, 08:52:27 AM
Go Hawks!  First d3football ranking since week 11 of 2016 for Huntingdon and any USAC team for that matter.  As far as Saturday's game goes:
No turnovers in the game by either team, limited Belhaven's big plays (25 YD pass play longest), and the Hawks added in at least 6 plays of over 30 yards including a 72 YD punt return for a TD.  Belhaven's Brown had a bunch of tackled for a DL but only one TFL and on the other side Huntingdon's Peppers was credited for 18 tackles and 3.5 TFLs.  Unless I am incorrect the Hawks next two of three games are the only ones where I would give the opponent a punchers chance (both on the road). 

Up first is a trip to Tennessee to play Maryville this weekend.  The Scotts look to have found a QB this year who has 8 passing and 3 rushing TDs on the season.  They have one of the better defenses in the conference based on the stats.  Then the Hawks get a Bye before hosting Brevard which should be a win.  The only other game I see is potentially Methodist on the road on October 22nd.  This weekend Methodist plays host to Belhaven so we will see if there is a realistic shot of this or not.  October 22nd will be homecoming week for the Monarchs and since the Hawks have joined the conference the record between these 2 teams in Fayetteville is 2-2.  After those games I believe the Hawks coast through the last three opponents. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 26, 2022, 11:24:30 AM
There must have been an adjustment to the box-score since Saturday night when it had 23 tackles for Peppers. 18 is still a heck of a game though.
I guess #24 is the highest we've been ranked? We were #25 in the week 11 rankings in '16 and in the final poll of '15. I was thinking we made it higher at some point don't find it so I'm not sure what I'm remembering unless it was in the AFCA poll.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on September 26, 2022, 11:37:40 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 26, 2022, 11:24:30 AM
There must have been an adjustment to the box-score since Saturday night when it had 23 tackles for Peppers. 18 is still a heck of a game though.
I guess #24 is the highest we've been ranked? We were #25 in the week 11 rankings in '16 and in the final poll of '15. I was thinking we made it higher at some point don't find it so I'm not sure what I'm remembering unless it was in the AFCA poll.

What was your final ranking after the season you guys beat Berry in the 1st round? 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 26, 2022, 11:41:56 AM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on September 26, 2022, 11:37:40 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 26, 2022, 11:24:30 AM
There must have been an adjustment to the box-score since Saturday night when it had 23 tackles for Peppers. 18 is still a heck of a game though.
I guess #24 is the highest we've been ranked? We were #25 in the week 11 rankings in '16 and in the final poll of '15. I was thinking we made it higher at some point don't find it so I'm not sure what I'm remembering unless it was in the AFCA poll.

What was your final ranking after the season you guys beat Berry in the 1st round?
We finished 8-4 so we were never ranked that year. Looks like we got 4 votes in the final poll.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on September 26, 2022, 11:50:23 AM
Do you understand how terrible it is to be rooting for Huntingdon to sweep conference play so our loss looks as good as possible.  Not sure we have the team to win the conference this season, but if our 2 losses are to two top 15 tea,s in Huntingdon and Trinity, I still like our chances of a possible Group C bid.  But our offense has to get more consistent first. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 26, 2022, 11:57:42 AM
I could be wrong about this one but I took a quick look at the top 25 rankings on d3football's site which go back to 2003.  The highest any USAC team was ever ranked was CNU in week 10 of 2003 and that was #11.  The conference at that time had Ferrum and Shenandoah at that point who were solid teams.  That was CNUs third season with football and their team was loaded with transfer talent if my memory serves.  They also played very solid OOC games for most of their time in the USAC which helped their resume when it came time to vote for poles.  I don't know if it shakes out where Huntingdon can climb that high but with a 9-1 regular season finish and teams in front of the Hawks losing there is plenty of time to climb higher in the rankings by season's end.  A win or two in the playoffs and is it possible to overtake the Captains ranking?  Linfield winning out and BSU contending for the SAA title will go a long way also.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2022, 12:00:34 PM
I think it'll take playoff wins, for sure.

CNU that year also defeated Bridgewater and that was a big deal. Only loss at that point was Rowan.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 27, 2022, 10:18:15 AM
Looks to be a wet Saturday for all four conference games this week. Hope everyone has safe travels and the games are able to be completed.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 28, 2022, 04:16:49 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 27, 2022, 10:18:15 AM
Looks to be a wet Saturday for all four conference games this week. Hope everyone has safe travels and the games are able to be completed.
So three of the games have been moved to Friday to try to avoid Ian; LaGrange@N.C. Wesleyan, Belhaven@Methodist and Greensboro@Brevard.

https://twitter.com/d3football/status/1575185159300825099?s=20&t=PJ8A5n-XRKkx0AtBpmmvFA
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 01, 2022, 03:53:47 PM
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 02, 2022, 08:54:28 AM
Hawks with the road win at Maryville. After a hot mess of a first half on both sides of the ball I wouldn't want to have been in that locker room. That was just a bad half of football but the defense came out and shut Maryville down and the offense executed better to take care of business in the 2nd.
Not looking forward to facing that QB for the next 3 years. As he matures into that offense he could be something special.
Still waiting on a box score to be posted. Not sure what the issue would be.

Open date coming up then a home game with Brevard.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 03, 2022, 08:41:50 AM
It didn't work out for the Monarchs on Saturday.  The box score shows that it was a pretty evenly matched game.  I believe the 2 things that stood out were Methodist going 0 for 2 on 4th down conversions and Belhaven going 2 for 3 to go along with 3 sacks for Belhaven's defense and 0 for Methodist.  This will likely be a woulda coulda shoulda game at the end of the season.  On to Brevard who picked up their first win of the season against Greensboro.  Good teams like Huntingdon find a way to win tough games on the road and they did that in TN.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 03, 2022, 11:22:14 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on October 02, 2022, 08:54:28 AM
Hawks with the road win at Maryville. After a hot mess of a first half on both sides of the ball I wouldn't want to have been in that locker room. That was just a bad half of football but the defense came out and shut Maryville down and the offense executed better to take care of business in the 2nd.
Not looking forward to facing that QB for the next 3 years. As he matures into that offense he could be something special.
Still waiting on a box score to be posted. Not sure what the issue would be.

Open date coming up then a home game with Brevard.

Go Hawks!
With family in Alabama and with connections to Auburn (Ouch, a team that can break your heart as easily as any other), that win for Huntingdon seemed to be the kind of win that a maturing/mature program wins (dare I say it, the Tuscaloosa Institute of Delinquent Education) by the sheer force of its being.

I am happy for Coach Turk in finally seeing this develop in his players and in his program.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Blazers1 on October 03, 2022, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2022, 12:00:34 PM
I think it'll take playoff wins, for sure.

CNU that year also defeated Bridgewater and that was a big deal. Only loss at that point was Rowan.

Pat, if both Huntingdon and Belhaven win out, do you think Belhaven could get in the playoffs with their 1 loss being to (likely) top 20 ranked and conference champ Huntingdon?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 03, 2022, 11:57:19 AM
Quote from: Blazers1 on October 03, 2022, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2022, 12:00:34 PM
I think it'll take playoff wins, for sure.

CNU that year also defeated Bridgewater and that was a big deal. Only loss at that point was Rowan.

Pat, if both Huntingdon and Belhaven win out, do you think Belhaven could get in the playoffs with their 1 loss being to (likely) top 20 ranked and conference champ Huntingdon?

I'm not Pat but I'll say that anything is possible. However, Belhaven's SoS will most likely not be strong enough to match up with other Pool C candidates and they will likely be a common 0-1 against Regionally Ranked opponents as it is unlikely any other USASAC opponents will earn a Regional Ranking. Millsaps and Southwestern are likely to finish .500 or worse, hurting Belhaven's SoS and not giving them any more Regionally Ranked results.

Keep an eye on the Regional Rankings when they come out in a few weeks and see if Belhaven is ranked and, if so, if they are above or below the runner-up for the ASC, ODAC and SAA. If they can stay above those candidates, getting to the table to be discussed will be the first hurdle to cross. Then it becomes a question of if their resume looks better than other regional candidates on the table.

At this point in the season, I would say it's unlikely. But 9-1 is 9-1 and you never know. Provided they can win out of course.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: MRMIKESMITH on October 03, 2022, 01:10:02 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 03, 2022, 11:57:19 AM
Quote from: Blazers1 on October 03, 2022, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2022, 12:00:34 PM
I think it'll take playoff wins, for sure.

CNU that year also defeated Bridgewater and that was a big deal. Only loss at that point was Rowan.

Pat, if both Huntingdon and Belhaven win out, do you think Belhaven could get in the playoffs with their 1 loss being to (likely) top 20 ranked and conference champ Huntingdon?

I'm not Pat but I'll say that anything is possible. However, Belhaven's SoS will most likely not be strong enough to match up with other Pool C candidates and they will likely be a common 0-1 against Regionally Ranked opponents as it is unlikely any other USASAC opponents will earn a Regional Ranking. Millsaps and Southwestern are likely to finish .500 or worse, hurting Belhaven's SoS and not giving them any more Regionally Ranked results.

Keep an eye on the Regional Rankings when they come out in a few weeks and see if Belhaven is ranked and, if so, if they are above or below the runner-up for the ASC, ODAC and SAA. If they can stay above those candidates, getting to the table to be discussed will be the first hurdle to cross. Then it becomes a question of if their resume looks better than other regional candidates on the table.

At this point in the season, I would say it's unlikely. But 9-1 is 9-1 and you never know. Provided they can win out of course.

I agree that it is going to be very difficult for the USAC team to get that at-large. I projected that Belhaven will be 9-1. However, will probably be on table within R 3 with a 9-1 Hardin-Simmons, possibly 9-1 ODAC runner-up, and 9-1/8-2 SAA runner-up. I think the USAC have to perform better against other R 3 schools in OOC or schedule like Huntingdon against other conferences that can help boost SOS. Had Huntingdon beaten Linfield and Belhaven won and continued to win out, Huntingdon would have been a very strong candidate. That's the type of scheduling you have to have or have your conference to well in OOC and that 3rd place team finish 8-2 and get that runner-up a regional ranked win.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on October 03, 2022, 01:30:10 PM
This is why D3 needs another post season option, so many 9-1, 8-2 teams sitting at home come playoff season.  Not sure how you make it financially viable, but man do we need it. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on October 03, 2022, 01:36:47 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on October 03, 2022, 01:30:10 PM
This is why D3 needs another post season option, so many 9-1, 8-2 teams sitting at home come playoff season.  Not sure how you make it financially viable, but man do we need it.

A few conferences have added post season bowl games. I don't know how popular they have been but I'm thankful the ODAC switched from playing Apprentice to playing two games against Landmark teams starting next year.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Pat Coleman on October 03, 2022, 06:07:06 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 03, 2022, 11:57:19 AM
Quote from: Blazers1 on October 03, 2022, 11:30:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 26, 2022, 12:00:34 PM
I think it'll take playoff wins, for sure.

CNU that year also defeated Bridgewater and that was a big deal. Only loss at that point was Rowan.

Pat, if both Huntingdon and Belhaven win out, do you think Belhaven could get in the playoffs with their 1 loss being to (likely) top 20 ranked and conference champ Huntingdon?

I'm not Pat but I'll say that anything is possible. However, Belhaven's SoS will most likely not be strong enough to match up with other Pool C candidates and they will likely be a common 0-1 against Regionally Ranked opponents as it is unlikely any other USASAC opponents will earn a Regional Ranking. Millsaps and Southwestern are likely to finish .500 or worse, hurting Belhaven's SoS and not giving them any more Regionally Ranked results.

Keep an eye on the Regional Rankings when they come out in a few weeks and see if Belhaven is ranked and, if so, if they are above or below the runner-up for the ASC, ODAC and SAA. If they can stay above those candidates, getting to the table to be discussed will be the first hurdle to cross. Then it becomes a question of if their resume looks better than other regional candidates on the table.

At this point in the season, I would say it's unlikely. But 9-1 is 9-1 and you never know. Provided they can win out of course.

Appreciate the question. I think that jknezek is right on here -- there will probably be other 9-1 teams on the table who are all 0-1 against teams in the regional rankings. I don't think too many of those will get in, unless their loss is to someone at the top of a region.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on October 04, 2022, 11:24:58 PM
Who do you fans pick as the best QB in the USAC
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 05, 2022, 09:50:57 AM
Cotney from Huntingdon and it's not really close with any other QB.  He is the reigning OPOTY and likely repeat winner at this point in the season.  He is a true dual threat and it looks like this season he is trying to rely less on his legs.  I know the stats are still not up from this past weekends game but I made some educated guesses from the game notes. 

Cotney 2021 Total plays Rush/Pass per game 34.5 and 261 (176 air/85 ground) Total yards 2.9 TD per game
Cotney 2022 Total plays Rush/Pass per game 37 and 289 (263 air/26 ground) Total yards 2.8 TD per game

Bullins from Methodist will likely take the second place All-Conference spot.  He is not much of a runner but has a very good arm.  The one that I am excited to see grow as he gets older is the FR from Maryville Rollins.  Johnson from Belhaven looks to be solid but I believe that is a run first team and will not need to rely on the QB as much as other teams.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on October 05, 2022, 04:34:00 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 15, 2022, 08:12:08 PM
Very strong effort by the Hawks in a 38-14 win over Brevard today.  One of the better games we've played except for a stretch of the 2nd half that got a little sloppy after going up 31-0 and beginning to substitute but overall a great effort.
After our last couple of road games hopefully we can make the trip to Methodist next week and continue playing well and take care of business.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 17, 2022, 10:04:55 AM
Hawks,

The only tough thing I see remaining is the two long bus rides to NC this coming week and in three weeks.  I hope for good health the last 4 games and a favorable matchup in the playoffs (hopefully one at home).  The Hawks are up to 21st in the D3 pole and regional rankings are 2 weeks away.  I see Cotney as the OPOTY, Peppers as DPOTY, Turk as Coach of the year.  I have not looked far enough into ROTY on O or D and the STPOTY but if they are on Huntingdon's squad I wouldn't be shocked.  Things are looking good in that part of Alabama this week.  I will be happy for the Monarchs if they somehow are able to pull the upset this Saturday for homecoming but I would settle for a close game in the 4th.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on October 22, 2022, 01:10:33 AM
Observation: Huntingdon has a good k
FGK who will win a game this season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 22, 2022, 03:59:32 PM
Hawks hold on to win 38-35 at Methodist. That was way too close for comfort. Methodist did a very good job stifling our running game. Hawks had too many penalties and gave up too many big plays and are lucky to be headed home with a win. 

Still lots of work to do. Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 24, 2022, 08:07:02 AM
This past weekend was what I thought the Monarchs could have been all season. They had a lead most of the first half against Huntington and had the ball with a chance to drive down and score the go ahead TD or kick a FG and tie it. On 4th and 5 the Monarchs got 4 1/2 yards. I don't believe in moral victories but to stand toe to toe with the Hawks isn't too shabby. The biggest surprise was the fact that Methodist control the Hawks running attack. I expected McRenyolds to have 200 yards all by himself. 47 carries for 127 (2.7 ypc) is as good a showing as Methodist has had against Huntington ever I believe.

Moving forward I hope Huntington can grow from this and represent the conference well in the playoffs for as many rounds as possible. For the Monarchs there are 2 games left. A .500 finish was not what I believe was expected but as always I think there is reason for optimism. The QB has one more season. He just broke the program's all time completions mark. He may have a few more records to catch by the end of this season. SR WR Praylow is about 20 yards short of the program's season record for yards and already has the season record for receptions. He should set the conference mark for receptions and has an outside shot at the yardage mark.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 29, 2022, 08:56:19 PM
Go Hawks :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 29, 2022, 09:15:30 PM
Huntingdon gets a 42-0 homecoming win over Greensboro. The first quarter and a half was exactly what I wanted to see today as the Hawks scored TD's on our first five possessions before the offense pretty much shifted into neutral until a late TD drive by the backups. Great effort by the defense to get the shutout with GC only really threatening a couple of times. Overall a good job a taking care of business.

Long trip to NC Wesleyan up next. Hoping for another solid outing with a good outcome.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on October 29, 2022, 10:41:33 PM
Just win Hawks. Who knows what bracket the NCAA will put you in, maybe we'll meet again.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 02, 2022, 11:06:28 AM
2 weeks left and here are my best guesses for end of year awards:

OPOTY Huntingdon QB Cotney 265 passing yards per game, 19 passing TDs, 170 rushing, and 5 passing TDs
Dark horse Methodist WR Praylow.  He currently leads the nation in receiving yards as well as receptions

DPOTY Huntingdon LB Peppers 9 tackles per game, 5.5 sacks, 14 TFL, and one FF (it also looks like he missed one game)
I don't see a dark horse here

OPOTY Maryville QB Rollins 242 passing yards per game, 21 passing TDs, 258 rushing yards, 6 rushing TDs
I don't see a dark horse here

DPOTY SOVA DL Tuinakauvadra 6 tackles per game, 5.5 sacks, 13.5 TFL, 2 FF, and one INT
I don't see a dark horse here

STPOTY  doesn't have a clear cut candidate.  Praylow from Methodist was the returning winner which may carry some weight.  I know that teams try and kick away from him which probably means a lot but his stats are average at best.  Huntingdon WR England is quite a talented punt returner.  I didn't see a great candidate from the kickers.  Huntingdon P Johnson has a bunch of fair catches and punts downed inside the 20. 

COTY Turk from Huntingdon but I could see "voter fatigue" play a factor and McCorkle from Belhaven might receive some votes.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 02, 2022, 11:53:10 AM
Unfortunately, Peppers tore an ACL during the Methodist game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 02, 2022, 11:59:56 AM
That stinks.  I wonder if he will use his COVID year and come back?  If he has the surgery now and rehab goes well he would be back before the start of the season.  In either case I hope the best for him
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 05, 2022, 12:25:48 PM
Hawks off to another slow start on the road. 7-7 late 1st.

Should've driven to NC. This video feed is horrid.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 05, 2022, 01:21:00 PM
Hawks lead 14-7 at the half. Hopefully we get moving in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 05, 2022, 01:57:55 PM
Hawks with a FG and TD to start the 2nd. 24-7
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 05, 2022, 02:14:28 PM
A TD followed by a pick 6 and HC is pulling away, 38-7.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 05, 2022, 02:34:48 PM
go Hawks, not counting chickens till all the eggs are hatched, but where will be the LaGrange game ? at home. I think we drove to LaGrange last year... not engaging in any for of 'besmirching' of course :)
keep the faith  ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 05, 2022, 02:40:08 PM
NCW gets a late score so the final is 38-14. Another slow start on the road but got things cranked up in the 2nd half.

Senior day at home against Lagrange next week. Looking for a strong finish to head into the post season.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 05, 2022, 02:53:14 PM
Go Hawks :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 05, 2022, 09:17:24 PM
Trying to check the boxscore for Hungtingdon-NC Wesleyan and that thing is a hot mess. It has the score wrong. It was 38-14. It has NCW making a field goal in the 3rd that Huntingdon made and says we missed one of our extra points but we made all of them. The time of possession adds up to 78:42. The individual stats are all over the place.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 07, 2022, 10:00:22 AM
I was finally able to get to Fayetteville to watch the Monarchs play this year.  My assumptions from watching online and speaking to people still involved in the program were correct.  The team plays to the level of the competition.  That explains the results of the Huntingdon and Belhaven games and some of the other close wins/losses.  The Monarchs season is complete.  5-5 is very disappointing.  On paper the only losses that will truly hurt are SR LBer Christianson who played an unbelievable game on Saturday night (pick six and a fumble recovery to go along with a bunch of tackles) and the SR WR Praylow who now owns the single season receptions record, single season yardage record, career receptions record, missed the career receiving yardage mark my only a few yards, and the KR yardage record in conference and the team.  There are 3 SR OL but that group did not perform as well as expected and I'm not sure what the reason was.  The QB and RB will be SRs next year, both safetys will be seniors, and there is talent returning in the receiver room.  The line of scrimage on both sides needs to be addressed in the offseason in the form of player development and recruiting.

On a different note on the side of the Greensboro Pride their LBer Max Steel is an absolute animal.  I doubt he will ever get his due credit since the program will unfortunately be in the bottom half of the conference his entire career but that kid can play
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 07, 2022, 10:28:05 AM
Still waiting for someone to fix the box score. There has been one adjustment made. The time of possession now adds up to 84:51.  ::)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 07, 2022, 11:15:37 AM
Long game.  I would have been very tired just watching that game
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 08, 2022, 03:12:38 PM
It looks like they finally fixed the box score. Though it still has Landon Cotney with 5 tackles. I guess he had a busy day.  :D  I'm sure those belong to Martin Toby who wears #6 on defense.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 12, 2022, 06:45:25 PM
GO Hawks, Great game
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 12, 2022, 09:34:39 PM
Hawks take care of business with a dominating performance over Lagrange to win the conference. Good day to get some guys some rest and play a lot of people.
Waiting to see the who and where for next week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on November 14, 2022, 10:20:54 AM
Watch out for Maryville next year. Win at Bellhaven bodes well.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 14, 2022, 12:35:11 PM
If that QB is back I would say watch out for the Scotts the next three years.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 14, 2022, 01:24:17 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on November 14, 2022, 12:35:11 PM
If that QB is back I would say watch out for the Scotts the next three years.
Yep. This.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: D O.C. on November 15, 2022, 08:29:14 PM
Play hard Hawks!
Need to give you your rematch.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 16, 2022, 09:26:35 AM
According to Hansen we've only got a 2.7% chance of getting through this first one but our guys will damn sure be fighting to get there, D O.C.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 16, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
Post season awards for the conference were released today.  In a mild upset SR WR/RET Praylow from Methodist won the OPOTY award.  I thought it Cotney's award most all season.  I would like to know how the voting shook out.  Praylow did lead the country in receptions and receiving yards and was second in AP yards per game.  He also was a repeat winner for the SPCPOTY.  FR QB Rollins from Maryville was likely a runaway winner for the OROTY.  Belhaven swept the defensive awards with LB Fordham winning the DPOTY and DL Webb winning DROTY.  I believe it might have been different if Peppers from Huntingdon didn't miss the last three games with the knee injury.  Turk likely swept the coach of the year award.  The breakdown is:

Huntingdon had 12 (13 spots since a WR was a RET)  players selected with 7 1st team and 6 2nd team.  6 came from offence and 5 from defense with 2 spec players
Belhaven had 10 players selected with 8 1st team and 2 2nd team.  3 came from offense and 5 from defense with 2 spec players
Methodist had 9 (10 spots since a WR was a RET) players selected with 4 1st team and 6 2nd team.  4 came from offense and 5 from defense with 1 spec player
Brevard had 5 players selected with 3 1st team and 2 2nd team.  2 came from offense and 2 from defense with 1 spec player
Maryville had 5 players selected with 1 1st team and 4 2nd team.  3 came from offense and 2 from defense
SOVA had 4 players selected with 2 1st team and 2 2nd team.  2 came from offense and 2 from defense
NCWC had 3 players selected with 1 1st team and 2 2nd team.  2 came from offense and 1 from defense
LaGrange had 1 offensive player selected to the second team
Greensboro had 1 offensive player selected to the second team


Congratulations to all of the players that were honored.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 19, 2022, 04:38:39 PM
great season, bad end . Go Hawks always :)
I hope The Cru wins it all :)
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 20, 2022, 05:30:43 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on November 19, 2022, 04:38:39 PM
great season, bad end . Go Hawks always :)
I hope The Cru wins it all :)
keep the faith
Was thinking the same, DGP. Great season, bad day. I really thought we were going to give a better showing but 4 turnovers and shooting yourself in the foot all day doesn't get you much results against a UMHB.
I'm hoping this was them flipping the switch from regular season UMHB to playoff UMHB like they did last year and they go ahead and make another run.
I know our guys will be back in the weight room when they get back in January getting ready to do it again next fall.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 20, 2022, 07:09:20 PM
Amen Hawks88, can I get another Amen
Coach Goodyear will have them lifting heavy ASAP
Yall have a wonderful Thanksgiving, keep the faith my friend
Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on December 29, 2022, 10:41:16 AM
I was very happy to see that Sr WR/RET Kobe Praylow racked up the postseason awards.  He cleaned up in the USAC.  Was a d3football.com second team all region WR.  Then he received nods for second team all-american AP player in both AFCA as well as the AP.  From what I understand he is also a very good human so I am happy for him.  He also now owns conference records for all time kickoff returns and kick off return yardage.  He will be missed.  Fortunately the Monarch will be returning a QB who will also be re-writing the conference record books.  As it stands now here is what he needs to accomplish this season to own almost all of the statistical records:

He currently has 8,859 passing yards.  Needs 372 to tie the all-time mark.  He should pass that mark by the second game and will be on pace to shatter the record by over 2K yards.
He currently has 1,202 passing attempts.  He needs 154 to tie the all-time mark.  He should pass that mark by the fifth game and will be on pace to break the record by 200 attempts.
He currently has 725 passing completions.  He needs 62 to tie the all-time mark.  He should pass that mark by the third game and will be on pace to break the record by 150 completions
He currently has 68 passing TDs.  He needs 13 to tie the mark.  He should pass that mark by the seventh game and will be on pace to break the record by 7 TDs.

Here is hoping that there is a solid supporting cast around him.  I know that the return of the SR RB Keyshaun will be a big help but there will be opportunities for some of the 102 balls that the WR above caught last season that someone else will need to catch now.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on April 06, 2023, 01:51:42 PM
We are still kicking and we have a score to settle with Huntingdon.  You have something that belongs to us, and we are coming to get it in September!!!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on April 06, 2023, 05:06:18 PM
good deal, on another note, Is B'ham Southern going to be ok. I read some rough financial news on Al.com (??) a while back, then no other news.
Birmingham Southern is a really good college, so I pray all has been worked out ???
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on April 06, 2023, 05:54:17 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on April 06, 2023, 05:06:18 PM
good deal, on another note, Is B'ham Southern going to be ok. I read some rough financial news on Al.com (??) a while back, then no other news.
Birmingham Southern is a really good college, so I pray all has been worked out ???
keep the faith

BSC was at risk of closing after this spring semester.  It was announced today that the school will continue.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on April 06, 2023, 09:02:53 PM
Thanks
Great news for BSC and for the state of Alabama
:)
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on April 10, 2023, 12:32:23 PM
I just got this on my news feed, (i'm slow :) )
as BSCpanthers said https://abc3340.com/news/local/alabama-jefferson-county-birmingham-southern-college-possible-closure-open-tuition-announcement-financial-bailout-request-governor-kay-ivey-american-recovery-plan?fbclid=IwAR3WPc_Im3FHP6rWe7kk5lTXBAeA1qs09EvPk3vTAQjxwbbPntVuKLu2hLk
Good stuff
keep the faith 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 27, 2023, 10:20:50 PM
Huntingdon announced their schedule the other day:

9/2 @Berry
9/9 Birmingham-Southern
9/16 Guilford
9/23 @LaGrange
9/30 Methodist
10/7 @Belhaven
10/14 Maryville
10/21 @Greensboro
10/28 Open
11/4 @Brevard
11/11 NC Wesleyan

Berry in week 1 is for the foreseeable future I was told. BSC in the usual week 2 slot. I haven't asked anyone how long that week 3 ODAC-USAC deal is supposed to last. Hopefully this is it and we get back to playing the full conference schedule next year.

Can't wait to get started. Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 15, 2023, 01:25:10 PM
Huntingdon's roster is posted. Here's what I count.
167 total

24 Srs - incl. 3 who were listed as seniors last season
28 Jrs
35 So
80 Fr

LB Casey Peppers, LB Kye Capolupo, and DB Miller Park are the three returning seniors that I see.

I think there's a big intra-squad scrimmage Saturday since we weren't able to find a replacement for Berry for a pre-season scrimmage. Can't really scrimmage them since we play them for real two weeks later. Can't wait to see how we look.

Hawkem!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on August 16, 2023, 01:51:19 PM
May be a paywall issue but maybe not...Maryville will be better this year:  https://www.thedailytimes.com/sports/experience-maturity-present-as-scots-open-fall-football-camp/article_96ee686e-37ae-11ee-b413-db6521972dfc.html
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on August 16, 2023, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on August 16, 2023, 01:51:19 PM
May be a paywall issue but maybe not...Maryville will be better this year:  https://www.thedailytimes.com/sports/experience-maturity-present-as-scots-open-fall-football-camp/article_96ee686e-37ae-11ee-b413-db6521972dfc.html

Yes, paywall.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 17, 2023, 11:34:34 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 16, 2023, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: scottiedoug on August 16, 2023, 01:51:19 PM
May be a paywall issue but maybe not...Maryville will be better this year:  https://www.thedailytimes.com/sports/experience-maturity-present-as-scots-open-fall-football-camp/article_96ee686e-37ae-11ee-b413-db6521972dfc.html

Yes, paywall.
If you're using Chrome as your web browser right click on the link and choose 'Open link in incognito window.' Comes up for me doing that.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Etchglow on August 18, 2023, 03:04:42 PM
Spent some time getting roster scraper working here: 

USAS Roster Returners (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/199x6eotUjjHMpR2fWz_8ics5BNeI50RDKOCPEiRBwjI/edit?usp=sharing)


Notes: N.C. Wesleyan hasn't posted a 2023 roster yet, and Southern Virginia's 2022-2023 roster is pointing to the 2023-2024 roster...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 21, 2023, 11:04:01 AM
The season is upon us.  Highschool football opened up in NC this past week and D1 will have their week zero slate this week.  Two weeks until the USAC gets started.  I believe the coaches will vote on a pre-season poll in the next few days.  I will be interested to see where the coaches rank things.  We will have new coaches at both SVU and LaGrange.  The top 5 finishers from last year were Huntingdon, Belhaven, Maryville, Brevard, and Methodist.  I would think most coaches will vote the Hawks number one but they need to find a replacement for their stellar QB that finally graduated.  Belhaven is returning a ton of talent on both sides of the ball including Johnson at QB.  The team I think can make a ton of noise is Maryville with the OROTY QB coming back for his SO season.  Brevard was hit hard by graduation but that coaching staff has the Tornadoes ready to play and will do their best to grind games to their pace of play.  Methodist loses their all-world weapon on offense/ST but return a 4 year starting QB.  If I was to guess how the coaches will wind up voting it would be:

1. Huntingdon
2. Belhaven
3. Maryville
4. Methodist
5. Brevard
6. NCWC
7. LaGrange
8. SVU
9. Greensboro

Huntingdon will be the most battle tested coming from their non-conference slate which includes Berry and BSU.  Belhaven should be fine in their OOC but they do play every conference opponent.  Maryville plays Center and Shenandoah in OOC and do not play Methodist in conference play.  Methodist gets both W&L and Shenandoah in OOC and both on the road.  Brevard will get a test with Hampden-Sydney in OOC which will be intensified as it is Coach Favrett's last season.  I hope all teams come out of camp/pre-season ready to get the season started off with early success.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 21, 2023, 03:29:04 PM
How soon can we expect to see the USAS teams play a complete round robin schedule?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 21, 2023, 07:44:46 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on August 21, 2023, 03:29:04 PM
How soon can we expect to see the USAS teams play a complete round robin schedule?
I think Roanoke is planning to start playing in the ODAC in 2025 so with both conferences at 9 teams there would be no reason for the week 3 deal at that point. I really hope this is the final season of the deal.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 22, 2023, 11:01:56 AM
I hope at some point the round robin scheduling will work but I just don't know how these programs can swing it financially.  In a previous life I was in charge of the football programs team travel at one of the member institutions and budgets were tight.  We accounted for 5 road games.  Of those 5 if the travel was going to be greater than 3 hours we would typically go the day before and get a hotel.  If money was no object I would object I would really only want my players in a bus for 1-2 hours tops on a game day.  But if we use the 3 hour as a cutoff then realistically you don't have a ton of games that would not be overnight trips.  For an overnight road game you typically accounted for 5 meals.  Lunch on travel day, dinner on travel day, pregame breakfast/meal, pregame snack, and a post game meal.  I would work with the cafeteria on campus and they would provide boxed lunches for the travel day and the pregame snack.  If the player, support staff, or coach had a meal plan we would not be charged but if they did not we would pay.  I would typically find a hotel that could provide the pregame breakfast and negotiate it into the room cost if possible.  The meal on Friday night would be at a Golden Corral or a similar restaurant that would provide multiple options for the players and could handle feeding a large number.  The post game meal usually consisted of pizza, subs, or something along those lines that could be delivered to the visiting locker room post game and easily distributed as we got back on the bus.  Then you also need to account for 2 charter busses and hotel rooms for anywhere from 70-100 players, coaches, and support staff.

If that is the case or something similar at all of the USAC programs you are looking at 4 home and 4 away conference games each year.  The outliers geographically are NCWC to the east, Belhaven to the south and west, and SVU to the north.  NCWC would only have day trips to Methodist and Greensboro so they would be looking at 3 overnighters if they alternate MU and GC home/away.  Belhaven would have all 4 games as overnight trips.  SVU could get to Greensboro in 2:30 if the driver floors it so they might be looking at 4 overnight trips in conference each year.  All of the other schools would likely average 2-3 overnight trips in conference annually.  To top it off NCWC to Belhaven and SVU to Belhaven are over 12 hour bus trips.

The last time I did any of this was over a decade ago so I am sure a lot has changed since then but if memory serves me correctly our overnight trips were anywhere from $12-$15K.  Given inflation and everything else go ahead and consider the low end $20K now.  With the state of some of these universities/colleges financially $80K in team travel (which does not account for the one OOC away game which even if it is a day trip will be a few thousand dollars) is a pretty large chunk of the budget I would imagine. 

With all that being said I don't have a better solution.  I know it is a matter of survival of the fittest when it comes to conference alignments and not all decisions are made from a football standpoint.  From what I understand the schools need to fit academically as well but I have honestly never understood that one.  We don't have the debate teams competing from member institutions.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 22, 2023, 12:05:37 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on August 22, 2023, 11:01:56 AM
I hope at some point the round robin scheduling will work but I just don't know how these programs can swing it financially.  In a previous life I was in charge of the football programs team travel at one of the member institutions and budgets were tight.  We accounted for 5 road games.  Of those 5 if the travel was going to be greater than 3 hours we would typically go the day before and get a hotel.  If money was no object I would object I would really only want my players in a bus for 1-2 hours tops on a game day.  But if we use the 3 hour as a cutoff then realistically you don't have a ton of games that would not be overnight trips.  For an overnight road game you typically accounted for 5 meals.  Lunch on travel day, dinner on travel day, pregame breakfast/meal, pregame snack, and a post game meal.  I would work with the cafeteria on campus and they would provide boxed lunches for the travel day and the pregame snack.  If the player, support staff, or coach had a meal plan we would not be charged but if they did not we would pay.  I would typically find a hotel that could provide the pregame breakfast and negotiate it into the room cost if possible.  The meal on Friday night would be at a Golden Corral or a similar restaurant that would provide multiple options for the players and could handle feeding a large number.  The post game meal usually consisted of pizza, subs, or something along those lines that could be delivered to the visiting locker room post game and easily distributed as we got back on the bus.  Then you also need to account for 2 charter busses and hotel rooms for anywhere from 70-100 players, coaches, and support staff.

If that is the case or something similar at all of the USAC programs you are looking at 4 home and 4 away conference games each year.  The outliers geographically are NCWC to the east, Belhaven to the south and west, and SVU to the north.  NCWC would only have day trips to Methodist and Greensboro so they would be looking at 3 overnighters if they alternate MU and GC home/away.  Belhaven would have all 4 games as overnight trips.  SVU could get to Greensboro in 2:30 if the driver floors it so they might be looking at 4 overnight trips in conference each year.  All of the other schools would likely average 2-3 overnight trips in conference annually.  To top it off NCWC to Belhaven and SVU to Belhaven are over 12 hour bus trips.

The last time I did any of this was over a decade ago so I am sure a lot has changed since then but if memory serves me correctly our overnight trips were anywhere from $12-$15K.  Given inflation and everything else go ahead and consider the low end $20K now.  With the state of some of these universities/colleges financially $80K in team travel (which does not account for the one OOC away game which even if it is a day trip will be a few thousand dollars) is a pretty large chunk of the budget I would imagine. 

With all that being said I don't have a better solution.  I know it is a matter of survival of the fittest when it comes to conference alignments and not all decisions are made from a football standpoint.  From what I understand the schools need to fit academically as well but I have honestly never understood that one.  We don't have the debate teams competing from member institutions.
High quality post!  Much good information to help readers understand the real dynamics of the USAS!
Your geographic footprint is similar to the ASC. +1!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 22, 2023, 02:10:25 PM
The way Huntingdon has handled the longer trips(Methodist, NC Wesleyan, VA schools, maybe Greensboro?) is that they will leave on Thursday after dinner and get into South Carolina to spend the first night then finish the drive after breakfast on Friday. Of course, after the game they will drive straight home with a stop for dinner somewhere in the middle.
The only day trips we've had recently are Birmingham-Southern and LaGrange. I'm not sure how we will do the Berry game. I've assumed it will be a day trip since it's going to be a night game but at around a 3 1/2 hour drive I'm not sure.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 24, 2023, 11:47:45 AM
With talks of travel I was looking at our schedule this season and was thinking it might be the least amount of travelling we've done. Games at Berry, LaGrange, Belhaven, Greensboro and Brevard come to 1381 miles. Checking old schedules, however, shows that 2012 was less with only 4 road games - LaGrange, Hampden-Sydney, Millsaps, and Point University comes to 1046 miles.

On the other end, the most miles travelled in a season would be 2006, by far, with 6 road games at Ithaca, Millsaps, Rhodes, Colorado College, Thomas More, and SAGU coming to 4272 miles. Next closest is 2004 with only 4 games at Louisiana College, Wittenburg, Colorado College, and Maryville at 2817 miles. 2007 gets an honorable mention with back-to-back weeks with trips to Adrian and Wesley.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on August 24, 2023, 12:47:37 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 24, 2023, 11:47:45 AM
With talks of travel I was looking at our schedule this season and was thinking it might be the least amount of travelling we've done. Games at Berry, LaGrange, Belhaven, Greensboro and Brevard come to 1381 miles. Checking old schedules, however, shows that 2012 was less with only 4 road games - LaGrange, Hampden-Sydney, Millsaps, and Point University comes to 1046 miles.

On the other end, the most miles travelled in a season would be 2006, by far, with 6 road games at Ithaca, Millsaps, Rhodes, Colorado College, Thomas More, and SAGU coming to 4272 miles. Next closest is 2004 with only 4 games at Louisiana College, Wittenburg, Colorado College, and Maryville at 2817 miles. 2007 gets an honorable mention with back-to-back weeks with trips to Adrian and Wesley.

Just for fun I looked at Trinity's for this year:  a cool 8600 (St. Johns MN, Birmingham-Southern, Berry, Southwestern, Sewanee)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on August 24, 2023, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 24, 2023, 12:47:37 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 24, 2023, 11:47:45 AM
With talks of travel I was looking at our schedule this season and was thinking it might be the least amount of travelling we've done. Games at Berry, LaGrange, Belhaven, Greensboro and Brevard come to 1381 miles. Checking old schedules, however, shows that 2012 was less with only 4 road games - LaGrange, Hampden-Sydney, Millsaps, and Point University comes to 1046 miles.

On the other end, the most miles travelled in a season would be 2006, by far, with 6 road games at Ithaca, Millsaps, Rhodes, Colorado College, Thomas More, and SAGU coming to 4272 miles. Next closest is 2004 with only 4 games at Louisiana College, Wittenburg, Colorado College, and Maryville at 2817 miles. 2007 gets an honorable mention with back-to-back weeks with trips to Adrian and Wesley.

Just for fun I looked at Trinity's for this year:  a cool 8600 (St. Johns MN, Birmingham-Southern, Berry, Southwestern, Sewanee)
Hmmm... Is there a direct flight between San Antonio & Georgetown?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on August 24, 2023, 02:48:01 PM
They can "fly" down the 130 tollway at 85mph ...
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on August 29, 2023, 01:46:55 PM
Week one.  Here we go.  As usual we will have a lot of the southern teams play the SAA and the northern teams play the ODAC.  Ill take:

On Thursday night Belhaven over Millsaps.  Darkhorse conference champ per 20 questions on D3 site.
Greensboro Pride takes the Soup Bowl over the Quakers of Guilford.  I am basing this on the photos of the players on Greensboro's website.  They look the part
Shenandoah beats Methodist in Winchester.  The Monarchs are breaking in about 3-4 new starting OL. 
Brevard hopefully beats Warner but honestly I am guessing here.  First one to 17 wins.
Maryville over Sewanee with the Scotts QB lighting up the scoreboard
Randy Mac scores a bunch and NCWC scores a little.  From what I saw on the ODAC board Randy Mac has about 100 SRs on the roster.
CNU handles SVU.  It is always a bit of a mystery with SVU since you can have some grown men come back off of their Mormon Mission.  I usually like 22 YR old vs 18 YR old.
Game of the week in the USAC Berry wins a close game over Huntingdon.  The Hawks are breaking in a new QB.
Sadly it appears that LaGrange will only have 9 regular season games and they open and close with a BYE.

USAC vs SAA 2-1
USAC vs ODAC 1-2
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Cowboy2 on August 29, 2023, 11:58:41 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on August 24, 2023, 02:48:01 PM
They can "fly" down the 130 tollway at 85mph ...

+1  ;D
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: HansenRatings on August 30, 2023, 11:25:31 AM
Playoff projections for the season using my model's preseason ratings:

(https://i.imgur.com/KyH1kt2.png)

You can look at other conferences on my website: https://hansenratings.github.io/ (https://hansenratings.github.io/).
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 03, 2023, 12:12:06 PM
This one ranks near the BSC game two years ago. We were doing okay and were at a good spot in the 2nd quarter where if the offense could get something going then we might get some momentum. Then a turnover and then the mistakes started snowballing(3 blocked punts in a row?) and got ugly.

A lot of stuff to fix this week to get ready for BSC. Let's go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on September 03, 2023, 12:20:31 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 03, 2023, 12:12:06 PM
This one ranks near the BSC game two years ago. We were doing okay and were at a good spot in the 2nd quarter where if the offense could get something going then we might get some momentum. Then a turnover and then the mistakes started snowballing(3 blocked punts in a row?) and got ugly.

A lot of stuff to fix this week to get ready for BSC. Let's go Hawks!

Didn't watch the game but looked at the stats.  What a weird game by the numbers.  Hopefully you guys fix all your problems, in 7 days.  You guys have something that belongs to us, we're coming Saturday to get it. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 05, 2023, 09:35:15 AM
Mistakes cost the Monarchs in Winchester.  The RS-SR QB threw three INTs which is not who he typically is.  My guess is that he is searching for a reliable go to since the guy that caught over 100 balls graduated.  One of those INTs was returned for a score and another set the Hornets up with a short field and they capitalized.  Methodist did return the favor with three fumble recoveries but only one resulted in points.  The major areas of concern were the special teams and game management.  There was a blocked punt that Methodist jumped on which resulted in a safety and a 1 yard punt later in the game.  There was also a blocked FG and the Hornets returned a Kickoff for a TD.  That is a 12 point swing on three plays (the 1 yard punt fortunately didn't hurt on the scoreboard but did affect field position).  There was also the play right before halftime when the Monarchs had the ball on the 2 yard line with 17 seconds remaining and tried to run it in and did not have enough time to run another play.  I completely understood handing the ball to the best player in that situation but with no TOs left handing the ball up the middle with a packed in formation led to a scrum where it took time for the RB to go down and the officials to get the ball back to spot it.  Time ran out and the Monarchs could have gone into halftime just down 2 points instead of 9.  All that being said I don't think that the sky is falling in Fayetteville.  They will get a chance to right the ship under the lights this weekend against Guilford before returning to VA to play W&L.  I would expect a win this weekend and the tale of the tape in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 06, 2023, 10:13:56 AM
Hawks I was curious as to what happened in Georgia for Huntingdon.  You mentioned mistakes snowballing and by the box score you weren't kidding.  At the 9:01 mark in the second the Hawks were up 20-14.  The next 5 offensive possessions are so unlike what you normally expect a Huntingdon team to do:

1 play fumble and the ensuing drive led to a TD
Punt blocked for a safety
Punt blocked recovered by Berry at the 2 resulted in an easy TD
Punt blocked returned for a TD
Punt return for a TD

At this point there is 7:02 remaining in the third and the score is 50-20 in favor of the home team.  That is 17 minutes of game clock and a 36 point swing.  I know Berry played a hand in that but I can't help but assume that there were some self inflicted wounds by the Hawks.  If there is a coach in the USAC that will correct those mistakes it is 100% Coach  Turk.  BSU has to go to Montgomery and I know that they want revenge for last seasons game but I would not expect an easy victory if I was the visiting team.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on September 06, 2023, 10:33:57 AM
2 years ago in Montgomery, Huntingdon had the same nightmare game against us.  Turnovers and easy TD's for the good guys lead to an easy win.  We did play again in the playoffs that season, much better game but BSC still came out in top.  Last year, Huntingdon came to The Hilltop and ran an offense our defense had not prepared for.  I'll be in Montgomery this weekend, should be another great atmosphere and hopefully another win for the Panthers. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 06, 2023, 10:48:18 AM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on September 06, 2023, 10:13:56 AM
Hawks I was curious as to what happened in Georgia for Huntingdon.  You mentioned mistakes snowballing and by the box score you weren't kidding.  At the 9:01 mark in the second the Hawks were up 20-14.  The next 5 offensive possessions are so unlike what you normally expect a Huntingdon team to do:

1 play fumble and the ensuing drive led to a TD
Punt blocked for a safety
Punt blocked recovered by Berry at the 2 resulted in an easy TD
Punt blocked returned for a TD
Punt return for a TD

At this point there is 7:02 remaining in the third and the score is 50-20 in favor of the home team.  That is 17 minutes of game clock and a 36 point swing.  I know Berry played a hand in that but I can't help but assume that there were some self inflicted wounds by the Hawks.  If there is a coach in the USAC that will correct those mistakes it is 100% Coach  Turk.  BSU has to go to Montgomery and I know that they want revenge for last seasons game but I would not expect an easy victory if I was the visiting team.
Yes, I have no doubt that the punt protection and coverage issues will be addressed and taken care of whether it be by personnel changes, scheme, or both. That's the easy part. The bigger issues were with run defense and overall offensive production. 227 total yards with the two 4th quarter touchdown drives accounting for almost half of that.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 07, 2023, 09:15:43 AM
On to week 2.  Not a great showing by the conference with only 2 wins last week and I don't expect a whole lot more this week:

Brevard goes to Hampden-Sydney and returns to the mountains with a loss
Bridgewater travels to SOVA and returns with a win
Maryville continues its winning ways and beats Centre improving to 2-0
Averett handles Greensboro convincingly
Belhaven manhandles a second year program in Lyon and also improves to 2-0
In a get right game for both teams between NCWC and Ferrum I'll take the Panthers to get the win at home
LaGrange starts the season with Berry coming to town and it will not be pretty for the home team
My game of the week is in Fayetteville where the Quakers come to play Methodist under the lights.  I'll take the home team to get in the win column after cleaning up special teams mistakes in week one.
In the real game of the week BSU is 1-0 going to Alabama to play Huntingdon.  I still think the Hawks are working their way into this season but it is a very close game the the visitors unfortunately win.

Last week 0-3 against the ODAC.  This week 1-4 if the Monarchs are victorious
Last week 2-1 against the SAA.  This 1-2 to even up the season matchups.

Overall 5 wins OOC in two weeks is not good but it is early. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 09, 2023, 09:44:47 PM
Go Hawks :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on September 10, 2023, 11:31:11 AM
Congrats to Huntingdon, they would not let us do anything offensively.  Our offense played 9 plays in the second half, all resulted from 3 and outs and put our defense right back in the field. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 10, 2023, 11:57:13 AM
Much better performance for Huntingdon with the first shoutout in the series with BSC. Our defense was outstanding keeping their offense in check all night. Improvements on the offensive side are encouraging especially with the way we able to control the ball in the second half. BSC ran 9 offensive plays in the second half; 3 possessions and all 3 were 3-and-outs. The time of possession in the box score doesn't add up to 60 minutes but 42:37 to 14:52 is incredible.

Time to get ready for a visit from Guilford next week. With a 2-0 start they've already matched last year's win total so we will have keep improving to make sure we take care of this one.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 11, 2023, 10:29:54 AM
Congrats to the Hawks.  Huge turn around.  I didn't actually make my way to Fayetteville because I wasn't going to mess with the weather.  I did watch most of the first half and into the second half until I became frustrated and turned it off.  The kickoff was delayed due to lightning and the Monarchs looked like they were still in the locker room to start the game.  They were down 32-0 before really anything positive happened for the home team.  Methodist gave up 280 yards rushing, the were three picks (one of which was a pick 6), and lost 2 fumbles (one on a punt return).  I do not have high hopes for next week when they travel to a W&L team coming off of a bye.  Unless there are some changes made I would expect the Generals to rack up around 400 yards rushing.  If the turnovers (8 through the 2 games) and special team mistakes continue it could be a long season for the Monarchs.  As I do not want to dwell on the negative one very bright spot is the SR RB Pete.  He is averaging 100 yards rushing and 50 yards receiving with 4 total TDs on the season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on September 13, 2023, 10:44:49 AM
It looks like the Maryville rebuild is coming along nicely.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 14, 2023, 09:49:03 AM
Its the ODAC vs the USAC week.  Currently the USAC is winless against the ODAC.  I am hopeful that we can squeak a few wins out this week.  In order of confidence of USAC wins here is how I see it:

Huntingdon over Guilford.  I think Guilford is much improved but that is a long trip to Alabama and the Hawks showed up last week against BSU.
Maryville over Shenandoah.  I think Maryville's QB powers them to a win over the Hornets and the Scotts head into conference play 3-0
In a toss up I'll take Brevard over Averett at night in the mountains of NC.  This gives the Tornados their first win of the season.

This is when it gets ugly for the USAC and I give less than a punchers chance for the conference teams:

W&L over Methodist
Ferrum over LaGrange
Bridgewater over NCWC
Hampden Sydney over Greensboro
Randolph Macon over SOVA


Overall 8 OOC wins for the conference if I am correct with Belhaven (2-0), Marryville (3-0), and Huntingdon (2-1) as the only teams with winning records going into conference play.  Brevard would have the only other victory.  There have always been the haves and have nots in this conference but this season it feels like the gap has grown.  Through the first 17 games the average margin of defeat is 13 points and if you take out Maryville and Belhaven who each have a positive scoring differential you have an average of 25 points.  It used to be where the bottom of the USAC was competitive with the bottom of the ODAC and the middle vs the middle as well as top vs the top.  That is not the case this season for sure and it has been trending in that direction for some time.  With that being said the AQ will be decided in three games (unless the Hawks go 2-0 on 10/7 and 10/14 then they will have all but wrapped it up)


October 7th Huntingdon travels to Belhaven
October 14th Maryville is on the road against Huntingdon
October 28th Belhaven goes to Maryville

There is always a curious loss that one of the top teams suffers each season but this season that seems unlikely.  If it happens it would be a Brevard (coaching), a NCWC (athletes), or a Methodist (SR QB). 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 17, 2023, 09:37:34 PM
Go Hawks, stay on course
All have a blessed week, keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 18, 2023, 12:03:07 PM
OOC play is over (thank goodness for most of the USAC teams) and the conference slate gets started up this coming weekend.  I typically don't like to try and rank teams in a particular order I believe more in the "bucket" method.  With this being the case I see 3.5 buckets of teams in the USAC this year.

Bucket 1 conference contenders- Belhaven, Huntingdon, and Maryville (alphabetical order)

Belhaven- This was a strong returning roster and it makes sense that they are in this spot.  The only question I think that remains is what happens when they get tested.  We won't know that until October 7th against Huntingdon.

Huntingdon- This is a battle tested bunch with a bad loss on the resume but they rebounded nicely.  The QB seems to be making steady progress and the defense has returned to form since the Berry game.

Maryville- Solid OOC slate of games and they also have the best QB in the league I think.  There is not a ton of questions about this team at this point but they go to Brevard which could be seen as a trap game this weekend.

Bucket 2a and 2b middle of the pack could surprise a contender- Brevard 2a, Greensboro 2b, and Methodist 2b

Brevard- They at least play some defense.  They had 2 close losses and even though the Hampden-Sydney game score is much larger spread it was a tie game through almost 3 quarters of play.  They are better than Methodist and Greensboro I think but not by so much to make another bucket

Greensboro- This is the biggest surprise in the conference.  I say that due to the fact that the Pride have won a total of 6 games since the 2016 season (no more than one win in any given season) and between the NCWC, SOVA, Methodist, and Brevard games I can see 2-3 wins.  It is a shame that they do not play LaGrange this season I think that would be a win also.

Methodist- This is a mild disappointment since I don't think they would have been in the top bucket but should be more on par with Brevard and I think they are a step below them.  I still give the SR QB and RB a chance to score points and if the defense can find a way to stop the run and mistakes overall can be minimized. 

Bucket 3 the rest LaGrange, NCWC, SOVA

This group was outscored by an average of at least 35 points per game in OOC play.  These teams can likely beat either Greensboro or Methodist in the bucket above them but not likely any of the others.

With all this being said I will take Belhaven as the conference champ.  They get 2 relatively easy conference games to start and will be 4-0 when Huntingdon comes to town 10/7.  Then there are 2 more winnable games before traveling to Maryville 10/28.  They will have to get through Brevard the last game of the year but it is in Mississippi.  I say this knowing that Huntingdon can easily be the champ also but their schedule does not set up as nicely as they go to Belhaven and have Maryville come to town in back to back weeks and then travel to Brevard in November which could be a cold game for the Alabama boys.  I also wonder if they ever amended the conference rule book as to the picking of a conference champion.  When they played the shortened spring season in the spring of 2021 the division champs met in the title game.  Both Huntingdon and Brevard in the west had 2-1 records in conference play and Brevard's "OOC" game was against Averett who was in the conference at the time but the game was designated that prior to the season starting.  It doesn't look like any of Belhaven's games are considered OOC at least per the USAC and Belhaven's websites.  If memory serves me the first tie breaker was win percentage and since Belhaven has one more game in conference they can have a better percentage even with one loss.  The next tie breaker is head to head and where the Hawks went to the title game was the scoring margin which was the third tie breaker.

In either case the slate is wiped clean and conference play gives all the teams a fresh start.  Win and get in!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 18, 2023, 04:43:37 PM
That third tie-breaker was(and still is as far as I know) a coin toss, not scoring margin.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 23, 2023, 08:49:45 PM
Solid performance for the offense and outstanding job by the defense by the Hawks in Lagrange today. Very large disparity in time of possession like in all our wins so far. We were able to cut out the large number of penalties from last week. LC's only score was 50 yd drive after a turnover and their only real drive of the day.
Back home against Methodist next week. Keep building and improving.

Go Hawks!

Surprised to see Brevard take down Maryville today.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on September 23, 2023, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 23, 2023, 08:49:45 PM
Solid performance for the offense and outstanding job by the defense by the Hawks in Lagrange today. Very large disparity in time of possession like in all our wins so far. We were able to cut out the large number of penalties from last week. LC's only score was 50 yd drive after a turnover and their only real drive of the day.
Back home against Methodist next week. Keep building and improving.

Go Hawks!

Surprised to see Brevard take down Maryville today.
Is there anything like the Sports Illustrated cover curse in the D3sports publishing platform?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 24, 2023, 12:11:16 PM
Huntingdon will need to stay on top of their game for the duration, no et ups.
Go Hawks, yall all have a great week (and I look forward to Wild horse Rider's weekly analysis)
keep the faith ;)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on September 25, 2023, 02:47:59 PM
First week of conference play is in the books.  NCWC had the bye first.  Both Huntingdon and Belhaven did what they should do to the lower half teams in the conference.  I think the Hawks have bounced back to what we would normally expect after a head scratcher of a week one loss (this week Berry plays Trinity in a SAA matchup which may make that loss a "better one" if Berry can win).  Belhaven's top three running backs are averaging 10, 7, and 5.4 rushing yards per carry.  Combined they are averaging 210.3 yards per game on just over 27 carries per game between the three of them for an average of 7.7 yards per rush.  THAT IS NUTS!!  I don't expect either team to be challenged this coming week but Belhaven has to travel to Rocky Mount, NC 12+ hours. 

Methodist needed overtime to beat a SVU team at home in pretty steady rain.  The Monarchs allowed more points to SVU (21) than they scored in their first three games of the season (19).  I fear that much like I thought about Methodist's away game against W&L earlier in the season the Hawks may roll up over 400 yards on the ground in Alabama this weekend.  The only way for Methodist to keep it close is to keep running the football with Pete and keep the special teams a wash.

I was able to watch the 4th quarter and OT of the Brevard and Maryville game and all I can say is what a finish.  Went to triple OT with the Tornados getting the 2 point play after stopping the Scotts.  I know it was a loss but I came away from what I saw very impressed with the QB from Maryville.  There was a 3rd & 26 in the 4th quarter and he threw a ball 42 yards for a huge first down.  The biggest things I saw as an issue for Maryville going forward is their lack of balance on offense and they did not do a great job of stopping the run on defense.  This will likely hurt them against both Belhaven and Huntingdon.  I will never blame a college kid for playing a game but it did look like there were also some dropped balls by the Scotts receivers that may have altered the final here (I was watching it on my phone so I could 100% be wrong).  Maryville gets the bye to regroup and Brevard gets a winnable game against Greensboro.

The only competitive game on paper this weekend in the conference would be SVU against LaGrange.  I think SVU likely comes off of the close loss against Methodist with confidence and wins by 2 scores at home.

All this being said October 7th in Jackson, MS will essentially be the conference championship game between Huntingdon and Belhaven.  I know that both Brevard and Maryville will have something to say about that but through 4 games these appear to be the top two teams.  All I truly hope for is both teams to come out of this weekend healthy and ready to go.  With that being said I would not be mad if somehow Methodist upset the apple cart and beat the Hawks this weekend.

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 25, 2023, 04:25:39 PM
Well, as usual, WHR's analysis was relly interesting and pretty good.
thanks, keep the faith and
Go Hawks :)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on September 30, 2023, 07:12:20 PM
Go Hawks, keep on keeping on
and keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 05, 2023, 10:25:08 AM
Here we go!!!  I know there is a lot of games left in the season and Brevard has not suffered a loss in conference to date but I will put my money on the winner of the game in Mississippi being the conference champ and AQ in the playoffs.  I was very curious so I took a deep dive into these two teams.  I believe the overall stats are skewed in Belhaven's favor due to Huntingdon's first game against Berry.  Berry also proved to be a pretty good team based on last weeks game against Trinity.  Also this is Belhaven's first true test of the season but boy are they a old team.  Here is what I saw as the differences:

Belhaven has the advantage in rushing offense and defense
Huntingdon has the advantage when it comes to pass defense
Belhaven does not give up sacks and thus far in the season Huntingdon has
Both teams do not turn the ball over
Huntingdon has an advantage in the return game but I am unsure if all of the punt protections that hurt them against Berry have been solved.  Belhaven is returning an all-conference P and K.

So those are just stats for stat sake.  When you look into the rosters it is pretty clear as to why there are these differences above.  The offensive lines.  Here is what each team has:

Belhaven has 3 graduate/SRs and 2 JRs.  They average 6'1 3/4 and 306 LBS.  Three of the players are returning starters one of which was an all conference player last season and one was a pre-season All American this year.

Huntingdon has 2 JRs, 2 SOs, and 1 FR.  They average 6'1 1/2 and 288 LBS.  Only one player is a returning starter but he was an all conference player last season.

They are not the only players to keep an eye on.  Both teams have a returning all conference RBs and Belhaven's Blount was all region.  Huntingdon returns England at WR and RET who was all conference at both positions last year.  Belhaven has a DL Brown who will be more than a handful for the OL.  The pair of LBers for Huntingdon Peppers and Spence will make running the ball tough all day.  Ultimately I think someone is going to have to make plays in the passing game.  Though Huntingdon's defense has held up well against the pass all season I think the big commitment has to be stopping the run game first.  I will give the slight advantage to the Blazers here and their returning signal caller Johnson.  He has multiple options with two good receivers, a solid TE, and all of the RBs can catch the ball out of the backfield.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 07, 2023, 04:47:46 PM
Oh well.....  The Hawks need to win the rest of the way.
Congratulations to Belhaven :)
Yall have a good week
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 07, 2023, 10:55:35 PM
Quote from: DGPugh on October 07, 2023, 04:47:46 PM
Oh well.....  The Hawks need to win the rest of the way.
Congratulations to Belhaven :)
Yall have a good week
keep the faith
Need to win out and hope that somehow Belhaven loses two.
Very disappointing outcome today. Just way too many mistakes and our offense was never able to put anything together. Belhaven pretty much dominating the line on both sides had a lot to do with that along with Blunt having a day.

Gotta flush it and get ready for another bug one with Maryville up next.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 09, 2023, 08:47:00 AM
Color me surprised.  I did think that the Blazers would come away with a win but I didn't expect the scoring margin to look like that or the difference in the rushing totals be as great as it was.  They should be able to sleep walk through their next two opponents who have already played the Hawks this season (and lost a combined 93-13) before a matchup against Maryville on October 28th.  Huntingdon has to lick their wounds quickly since the Scotts come to town this weekend.  I'm sure I could be missing someone but if Belhaven represents the conference as the AQ the only teams with the possibility of making it that are within 500 miles of the school would be Trinity, Berry, and UMHB (which is right at the 500 mile mark).  We would see very quickly how they stack up nationally after the first round.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 09, 2023, 10:45:59 AM
Respectfully, Jackson MS to San Antonio TX is more than 600 miles.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on October 09, 2023, 11:08:01 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on October 09, 2023, 10:45:59 AM
Respectfully, Jackson MS to San Antonio TX is more than 600 miles.

Pat and Greg said Belhaven and UMHB were under 500 on this morning's podcast, but on the ASC board it was pointed out that according to the NCAA's official distance site it's only true in one direction.  Pretty big discrepancy (487 Belhaven > UMHB, 535 UMHB > Belhaven).  Google finds the 487 route, and a couple of sub-500s the other way. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Blazers1 on October 09, 2023, 02:08:30 PM
Quote from: Wild Horse Rider on October 09, 2023, 08:47:00 AM
Color me surprised.  I did think that the Blazers would come away with a win but I didn't expect the scoring margin to look like that or the difference in the rushing totals be as great as it was.  They should be able to sleep walk through their next two opponents who have already played the Hawks this season (and lost a combined 93-13) before a matchup against Maryville on October 28th.  Huntingdon has to lick their wounds quickly since the Scotts come to town this weekend.  I'm sure I could be missing someone but if Belhaven represents the conference as the AQ the only teams with the possibility of making it that are within 500 miles of the school would be Trinity, Berry, and UMHB (which is right at the 500 mile mark).  We would see very quickly how they stack up nationally after the first round.

I think a lot of people thought this would be a close game, but Belhaven dominated start to finish. Great win for the program and for Coach McCorkle. This team can be a lot more dangerous the rest of the way than people think
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 09, 2023, 03:18:23 PM
Ralph that would be my ignorance of Texas and its geography/where the teams are located.  I was aware from previous posts where UMHB and HSU are.  I made the assumption that Trinity is in Trinity, TX when in fact it is clearly in San Antonio.  So unless UMHB wins the AQ and/or if Berry gets a Pool C bid there will be no one for the Blazers to play without the NCAA shelling out for a plane ride in round one.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 14, 2023, 05:13:12 PM
Really good game. Maryville has got a tough team.
Huntingdon escaped. Go Hawks, got to get better each week, regardless on how everyone else does
stay safe, keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 15, 2023, 07:30:19 AM
Very exciting game in Montgomery. It wasn't pretty for the most part but our defense got the stops in the 4th quarter when needed to help pull out the win.
Maryville QB Rollins is a special player and I don't look forward to two more years of playing him.
Shout out to Casey Peppers who became the career tackles leader for Huntingdon.

Trip to Greensboro up next.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 16, 2023, 03:34:53 PM
I don't want to count all of Belhaven's chickens before they are hatched but I believe they have a realistic shot at the first 10-0 season in USAC history (since 2001).  They do have both Maryville and Brevard left on the schedule.  They get a mini bye with Methodist coming to town this weekend (I would put the spread at 50) before traveling to Maryville.  That QB is the real deal but I think that they will have a tough time protecting him and Belhaven should be able to run the ball at will.  There is another mini bye when they go to SOVA then Brevard comes to town the last weekend of the year.  At that point Brevard will be coming off of the Huntingdon game and could be playing for the AQ but my gut says that the Hawks beat them the week prior and they will be playing spoiler at best.  To Brevard's credit I love some of the changes that they have made to their offense and their SO QB along with Maryville's should be fun to watch in 2024 & 2025.

There are currently 16 undefeated teams left in D3.  Johns Hopkins/Muhlenberg have yet to play along with Linfield/Whitworth in their respective conferences which brings the total down to 14.  I know the level of the competition is rightfully questioned but it is so hard to show up week in and week out with the expectations to win.  Hopefully 10-0 gets a home playoff game in round one and with the age/experience the Blazers have I give them a reasonable chance to advance (I reserve the right to change this opinion based on the matchup). 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Blazers1 on October 20, 2023, 03:31:36 PM
We need your weekly analysis Wild Horse Rider! I look forward to it every week!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 21, 2023, 09:04:25 PM
Go Hawks. All we can do is try to win the rest  of our games. :)

Wild Horse

Id sure like to see Huntingdon slip in..................but i am also pulling (oddly) for Belhaven to run the tables and go deeper into the playoffs then USAC teams seem to be able to go.

Still... Go Hawks, Keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 25, 2023, 08:32:20 AM
3 weeks left.  The Hawks are on a bye.  On the slate we have winless Greensboro traveling to SOVA and winless LaGrange hosting Brevard.  I know that there are three weeks left in the season but I just realized that the Pride and the Panthers do not play this season.  So not only does the conference have a shot at it's first undefeated team there is a chance at 2 winless teams.  Now they both get to play Methodist who may not let that happen.  Of note in Tennessee this weekend when the Blazers come to town you have the top rushing offense at 292 per game going up against the top rushing defense at 65 yards allowed per game.  I think much like the Huntingdon game the size and experience of Belhaven's O-Line will be what wins the day but it is something to keep an eye on.  The Monarchs host the Battling Bishops under the lights in Fayetteville for Homecoming.  I know that the records are in favor of NCWC but they have also beaten what I believe to be the three worst teams in conference already.  Now Methodist can certainly be in that group but I am still a little confused as to the season given some of the returning talent.  I also look and see that NCWC gave Belhaven it's "closest" game of the year with only a 21 point margin of victory. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on October 28, 2023, 05:49:32 PM
So much for the undefeated team, Belhaven goes down to Maryville 20-7 in OT.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on October 30, 2023, 09:32:49 AM
I believe I may have screwed it up by putting it out there in the universe but I'm sure I was not the only one to notice the Blazers record going into last game.  We were hosting a Halloween party so I was not able to watch the game like I wanted but man what a defensive battle in Tennessee.  Here is what I dug out from looking at the box score and play by play.  There were a total of 8 three and outs in the game.  Maryville's QB was sacked 6 times yet still rushed for almost 80 yards.  The Maryville defensive unit absolutely shut down the Belhaven Rushing attack to the tune of 2.7 yards per rush (If you take out Blount's run of 27 yards you are looking at 2 YPC).  The Scotts missed a FG in the 4th quarter from 21 yards out.  When it mattered most the Blazers came up with a 12 play drive covering 69 yards (it was actually more since the first play of the series there was a 15 yard tripping penalty).  It looks like Belhaven won the coin toss going into OT and held the Scotts to 4&10 from the 25 yard line.  It seems like the missed FG was a thought and Maryville went for it on 4th and got a pass interference call out of the play.  Two plays later and the Scotts QB was in the end zone.  When Belhaven got their turn they also were held to 4&10 and that is when the pick 6 happened.  Can't blame the QB at that point because if he didn't throw it they didn't have a chance.  I can imagine the coaches on Maryville's side yelling like crazy initially to get down until the defender broke out of the pack racing towards the opposite end zone. 

Well here we go.  Brevard controls their own destiny as do the Blazers.  The Tornados get Huntingdon at home this weekend before going to play Belhaven in week 11.  Based on comparative scoring the Hawks should be the favorite in the mountains of NC this weekend but I give the Tornados as good a chance as anyone.  If Huntingdon wins they will be the biggest Brevard fans in the world the following weekend.  On a different note Greensboro dog walked SOVA to get their first win of the season.  LaGrange gets a chance to get in the win column in Fayetteville this weekend against Methodist.  The Monarchs did not have a good showing on homecoming on Saturday and are at a point in the season where I'm sure it is hard to find motivation.  There are a handful of super seniors who I am sure do not want to leave the program in this condition when they leave and I hope the returning players want to find a way to spring into the offseason with something to build on.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on October 30, 2023, 06:46:10 PM
Belhaven to Southern Virginia, 795 miles

Belhaven to Sul Ross State, 908 miles
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 04, 2023, 04:16:05 PM
Go Hawks
Maybe Brevard can pull an upset next week :)
If not, then Plan B is for Belhaven to go deep into the playoffs :)
keep the faith y'all
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 05, 2023, 09:56:02 AM
Was getting nervous when it was 14-0 and ready to panic when it went to 21-0 and we had run 6 plays on offense(two 3 and outs) but our Hawks never quit, made adjustments, and clawed their way back in it to get the crucial win.
Now we become Brevard fans for one week.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 05, 2023, 03:14:41 PM
Brevard is playing for co-champioship rings!

It should be a great game.

Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 06, 2023, 03:53:06 PM
Final week of the regular season with actual stakes on the line.  If I am reading the USAC website correctly the Belhaven game will actually kickoff an hour prior to the Huntingdon game which means the Hawks could know their postseason fate by the early part of the second half.  I think that the game shapes up in Belhaven's favor even more so than the Maryville game when they were upset in OT.  The Tornados run defense is not as formidable as the Scotts and Blount and Company should have success.  I would expect the Hawks to get a win against the visiting Battling Bishops even if the post season is not on the line.  Maryville should easily handle SOVA.  And I am not happy even as I type this but I think that Greensboro beats Methodist under the lights at their stadium.  If those predictions are correct we are looking at a finish like this

1st Belhaven 9-1 7-1 in conference (picked 2nd in the preseason poll)
2nd Huntingdon 8-2 6-1 in conference (picked 1st in the preseason poll)
3rd Brevard 5-5 5-2 in conference (picked T-4th in preseason poll)
4th Maryville 8-2 5-2 in conference (picked 3rd in preseason poll)
5th NCWC 4-6 4-3 in conference (picked 6th in preseason poll)
6th Greensboro 2-8 2-5 in conference (picked 9th in preseason poll)
7th Methodist 2-8 2-5 in conference (picked T-4th in preseason poll)
8th SOVA 1-9 1-6 in conference (picked 8th in preseason poll)
9th LaGrange 0-9 0-7 in conference (picked 7th in preseason poll)

Post Season awards will likely be dominated by Belhaven.  They usually vote the conference champ as the coach of the year and I can't see them changing it this year even though both Huntingdon and Maryville's coaches would be good picks.  I think that the RB Blount from Belhaven will be the Offensive player of the year though the QB Rollins from Maryville would be a fine pick as well.  The biggest difference in my opinion is opportunities.  Blount has a combined 133 rushes, catches, kick returns, and passes for a combined 1,215 yards and 15 TDs.  Rollins is 205/323 passing for 2,489 yards and 16 TDs to go along with 117 rushing attempts for 347 yards on the ground and 12 TDs.  It is hard for me without watching all the film to hold it against Blount for lesser production since Belhaven has other options.  It seems as Rollins goes so goes the Scotts.  On the defensive side there was no one who truly stood out from a statistical standpoint but the DL Brown from Belhaven has 43 total tackles, 13 TFLs, 6.5 sacks, 3 FF, 5 PD, 1 FR, and 1 blocked kick.  I would imagine given what he has been in the past that is the type of player that when the opposing coaches turn on the film say, "if we don't block that kid it will be a long day".  The Specialist of the year will likely come down to the punter Norton from Belhaven who is averaging 43 YPP, 12 downed inside the 20 YD line, and 12 fair caught and the punt returner from Huntingdon England who is averaging 14 YPR and 1 TD on the year.  The kick returner from Methodist is creeping up on 800 return yards but that is in large part due to the amount of chances each game.  As far as the rookies the conferences website no longer lists the years of the players so this is a uneducated guess based on kids that have one rookie of the week at some point this season.  Drumgoole a FR WR from NCWC has 504 receiving yards and 2 TDs on the season.  Larry Jones is a FR DB with Greensboro who has 44 tackles on the season, 2 picks, and a pick 6.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 07, 2023, 02:09:15 PM
Also of note in the Methodist program RS-Senior QB Brandon Bullins will see his career come to a close this Saturday.  Off the field he is involved in a lot of the community service projects that the program does.  In 2021 he was one of the school's Male Scholar Athletes of the year with a 4.0 GPA in both the fall and spring semesters.  Following the 2022 season he was a CSC Academic All-District.  On the field he is a 2 time all-conference player though I do not think he will add to that list given the level of play of some of the other QBs in the conference.  He now owns or is tied for the lead in every passing statistical category in the conference.  He will have played in 44 games after this weekend and here is where his numbers will likely be:

Passing Yards- 11,127 Yards (previous record 9,231 yards)
Passing Attempts- 1,611 (previous record 1,356)
Passing Completions- 968 (previous record 787)
Passing TDs- 83 (the record is 81 and he is tied currently)
Total Yards- 11,179 Yards (previous record 10,324)

I know that I previously predicted a Pride win on Saturday but for Brandon's sake (and the rest of the team) I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 11, 2023, 04:36:50 PM
Go Hawks. End of a good season. 

Congratulations to Belhaven. I hope y'all can go deep into the playoffs. Good luck.

Keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Blazers1 on November 13, 2023, 09:05:16 AM
Belhaven getting the defending national champs in round 1. Might as well test yourself early! Very unfavorable draw, but not surprised by it.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 13, 2023, 01:23:35 PM
Defense and run game travel come playoffs,  Fortunately it looks like the weather will not be bad.  It will be a tall task but for the Blazers sake I hope that they can keep it close going into the 4th and see where it goes from there.  This weekend it will have been 701 days since N. Central last lost a game and in that time only one game has been a single digit scoring difference.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on November 20, 2023, 02:55:40 PM
The 2023 USAC season has come to an end.  Belhaven drew the buzz saw in the first round and did not make it to the second round of the playoffs but what a season for the Blazers.  As I am assuming most expected they racked up the conference postseason awards with OPOTY, DPOTY, and coach of the year.  They also had 12 all-conference selections including 10 on the first team (7 from offense).  The conference runner up Hawks had 13 spots for 12 players (WR and returner) including 5 on the first team (7 selections from the defensive side).  NCWC had 7, Maryville had 6, and Greensboro had 6.  I would have to do some research but I would bet you that 6 selections for the Pride is the most in quite some time (the COVID spring excluded).  Brevard had 3, Methodist 3, and SOVA 2 selections.  LaGrange did not have any players selected.  They did have a honorable mention section where it appears that each team had a representative but that is the first time I have seen them do that so I am not sure what it means.  In either case here is my way to early very unofficial preseason rankings:

1. Maryville- They return the QB for his JR season and will likely be the team to beat for the next two seasons.  I give them the slight edge over the Hawks since the game will be in TN next year.
2. Huntingdon- Until Coach Turk leaves they will always be at the top of this conference and will contend for the title.
3. Belhaven- Graduation will hit this team probably the hardest but with where they recruit I would think they should be able to reload rather quickly.
4. Brevard- If this team can find a way to win some out of conference games it will help the overall image of the conference.  They are also returning an all-conference QB
5. NCWC- This team will continue to have talent and could surprise people next season depending on retention
6. Greensboro- Coach Card has this program moving in the right direction I think.  It is a tough hill to climb but they have started moving upwards
7. SOVA- Always a tough team to call due to mission trips but I thought they were improved on offense this year and that is something to build on
8. Methodist- It was a disappointment this season and though they are not loosing a ton of Seniors they are losing them at key positions.  It may get worse in Fayetteville before it gets better
9. LaGrange- I am still waiting for someone to awaken this sleeping giant.  Recruiting in the state of Georgia could turn any program quickly


I realistically could see any of those top 4 teams winning the conference title next season.  The thing that I would love to see change next year is the conferences overall record in non-conference games.  We were 7 wins and 18 losses.  The 7 wins came from Maryville (3), Belhaven (2), and Huntingdon (2).  If as a conference this can improve then maybe the next NCAA AQ doesn't get sent to the defending national champs house in round 1.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 20, 2023, 06:32:36 PM
Maryville

9/2   at Sewanee •   W, 28-8   BX RC
9/9   vs. Centre •   W, 34-23   BX RC
9/16   at Shenandoah •   W, 27-20   BX RC RC

Huntingdon

9/2   at Berry •   L, 67-34   BX
9/9   vs. Birmingham-Southern •   W, 16-0   BX
9/16   vs. Guilford •   W, 40-14   BX

Belhaven

8/31   vs. Millsaps •   W, 47-7   BX RC
9/9   at Lyon   W, 48-15   BX RC

Brevard

9/2   vs. Warner   L, 29-23   BX RC
9/9   at Hampden-Sydney •   L, 31-17   BX RC RC
9/16   vs. Averett •   L, 17-14   BX RC  (Averett went 2-5 in the ODAC)

Increasing the number of wins in out-of-conference play looks like a steep hill to climb.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Blazers1 on November 28, 2023, 10:43:17 AM
Coach McCorkle is leaving Belhaven to become the head football coach at Northwestern State. Wow! Going from D3 to D1 is impressive. I hate that he will be leaving this program though after the success we have experianced.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on November 28, 2023, 11:17:05 AM
Quote from: Blazers1 on November 28, 2023, 10:43:17 AM
Coach McCorkle is leaving Belhaven to become the head football coach at Northwestern State. Wow! Going from D3 to D1 is impressive. I hate that he will be leaving this program though after the success we have experianced.

He will have his work cut out for him.  They cancelled this season (after starting 0-6) after the shooting death of one of their players and the previous HC quitting afterwards.  They've been a bottom-feeder in the SLC for a long time; their last winning season was 2008.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on November 28, 2023, 02:05:56 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on November 28, 2023, 11:17:05 AM
Quote from: Blazers1 on November 28, 2023, 10:43:17 AM
Coach McCorkle is leaving Belhaven to become the head football coach at Northwestern State. Wow! Going from D3 to D1 is impressive. I hate that he will be leaving this program though after the success we have experianced.

He will have his work cut out for him.  They cancelled this season (after starting 0-6) after the shooting death of one of their players and the previous HC quitting afterwards.  They've been a bottom-feeder in the SLC for a long time; their last winning season was 2008.

Wasn't he shot by one of his teammates???

Wonder how close they came to just closing the program for good. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: The Third Division on March 26, 2024, 12:56:13 PM
Time to wake up the USA south board.

Maryville hired an Oline coach with FCS, FBS, and NFL coaching experience https://footballscoop.com/news/maryville-college-ben-fox-nab-antonio-bradford-as-offensive-line-coach
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 15, 2024, 03:37:46 PM
Huntingdon announces this fall's schedule. A trip to Hendrix in week 4 replaces BSC.


https://huntingdonhawks.com/general/2023-24/releases/20240415foltda?fbclid=IwAR2wtYc6ucBPoO2bEvQwfdbMeTfYu0PVen0-jfH163_blz3Ypm9alu3X6BY
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 15, 2024, 03:55:25 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on April 15, 2024, 03:37:46 PMHuntingdon announces this fall's schedule. A trip to Hendrix in week 4 replaces BSC.


https://huntingdonhawks.com/general/2023-24/releases/20240415foltda?fbclid=IwAR2wtYc6ucBPoO2bEvQwfdbMeTfYu0PVen0-jfH163_blz3Ypm9alu3X6BY
This isn't an optimal schedule. The trip to Hendrix right after the trip to NC Wesleyan then the trip to Maryville right after the trip to Methodist. At least we finish with a home game after the trip to Southern Va. The conference really needs to swap one of those so we don't have all three of the long trips in the same season.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on May 07, 2024, 10:57:41 AM
Hawks I just looked at the Monarch schedule and I am kinda in the same boat as far as the schedule goes.  But since I am a glass half full person here is what I see.  On paper you have the first 5 games which depending on what everyone brings back could be wins.  OOC home against Shenandoah and on the road at Guilford.  They lost both of these games last year but I don't think that they were overmatched.  Then they get in conference play with Greensboro, LaGrange, then NCWC.  These are all winnable games.  Now is when the gauntlet begins with Huntingdon and SOVA coming to Fayetteville and then trips to Maryville and Brevard followed by a week 9 bye.  Last game of the season against the defending champs.  Now I would be ecstatic with a 5-0 start but then very sad with a 1-4 finish (SOVA should be winnable).  But if I was to look at last season as a whole going into this season a team around .500 would be an improvement.  Especially with the graduation of a 4 year starting QB, 2 starting DE's, 2 starting SAF, and the starting RB.  The backup QB for the last couple of years is a pitcher on the baseball team and if he is coming back at least he has been part of the program for a few years.  As a former offensive lineman they were disappointing up front but started a consistent group for the last 4-5 games last season.  Hopefully offseason practice/conditioning has helped that unit grow.  Based on what I can gather online the defensive coordinator is gone (they hired a new DL coach and the old DC coached that position).  Not sure if they promoted in-house or went elsewhere.  I know that the SID has better stuff to do but I would love if the coaching staff or spring roster could get updated.  Not that knowing any of that would make me more informed but for curiosity sake.  In either case the players are home for the summer or summer school.  I hope that they are working and come to camp in August ready to go.  You never want to count on a ton of freshman but I hope recruiting went well and there are a few impact players there.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: jknezek on May 07, 2024, 11:26:52 AM
Beating Shenandoah would be an upset. Beating Guilford... not so much. I didn't think the Monarchs were anywhere near as good as Shenandoah when W&L had them as a common opponent. The only offense the Monarch's mustered was through the air. Without the qb, I just don't see them moving the ball. The ground game and offensive line was... not good. The defense was slow. Very slow. I remember watching the game and W&L was just running past and around the whole team. I don't think Shenandoah will have a problem on the road.

Guilford... well, they need to do something with that program. It is struggling mightily. If you can't beat Guilford you will be in for a very long season again.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Wild Horse Rider on May 07, 2024, 02:59:05 PM
I get what you are saying JK.  The O-Line that started early in the season had some big boys on it and I don't mean tall.  When I thought of Shenandoah as a winnable game a big part of that was traveling down the mountain to play in Fayetteville when it is still 95 in the shade.  I was trying to maybe sell myself on the potential for early season wins because I don't see them coming late.  Of those first 5 opponents if I were to rank them I would go Shenandoah, NCWC, Guilford, Greensboro, and then LaGrange.  If I was to rank Methodist on how last year worked out it would be just slightly ahead of LaGrange.  If I assume some improvement then slightly ahead of Guilford.  If I look specifically at the Shenandoah game in Winchester it was a 2 point game with the Hornets ahead going into the 4th.  It was also an 8 point game in favor of the home team until a pick 6 with just under 1:30 left in the game.  Clearly they were the better team that day and the entire season but a few bounces of the ball a different way might have made the outcome different.  I am well aware that it could be another long season for the Monarchs but in May with no real way to determine it is different I am selling myself on better days ahead.

As far as comparing Shenandoah to Methodist as way of a common opponent I get what you are saying.  But I will say that with what your Generals do schematically on offense and defense the past 2 years give Methodist fits.  I have also always admired the discipline that the W&L squads have.  My opinion is and always has been that is the types of ball clubs/players that you get at a very high academic school.  That was never more evident than one of my last college coaching experiences.  Our staff coached a post-season all-star game and we had your RB, Luke Heinsohn (I believe that was his name), on our team.  I can't for the life of me remember the name of the game but I do have the sweatshirt in my closet.  They held it at Salem Stadium.  I just remember how smart and tough that kid was and I believe the rest up there are the same.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on July 18, 2024, 01:52:37 PM
Guess I'll post it here, see if we can't get some life from the USA South.  Maryville is leaving and headed to the SAA.  Bonus for Huntingdon is it gives an OOC option, but takes away a closer conference game.  Y'all can replace the annual game with BSC with either Berry or Maryville. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on July 18, 2024, 03:28:43 PM
We already have Berry in week one for the foreseeable future(so I'm told). Going to hate losing those late fall trips to Maryville. I guess any early September trip MIGHT be a little cooler than Montgomery or Birmingham.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 20, 2024, 03:08:45 PM
Huntingdon has posted a roster today.
163 total

28 Srs - including 3 who were listed as Srs last year
30 Jrs
38 So
65 Fr

The 3 returning Srs are LB Ty Martinez, RB James Cheatham, and K Will Edwards.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on August 20, 2024, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 20, 2024, 03:08:45 PMHuntingdon has posted a roster today.
163 total

28 Srs - including 3 who were listed as Srs last year
30 Jrs
38 So
65 Fr

The 3 returning Srs are LB Ty Martinez, RB James Cheatham, and K Will Edwards.


This post makes me sad, that these scumbags are prepping for a season and we are prepping our campus for sale.....    :'(

Honestly, I'll be rooting you guys on, y'all had one of the best gameday atmospheres we went to.  Carry that D3 banner for the state.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 20, 2024, 07:12:35 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on August 20, 2024, 05:17:21 PM
Quote from: Hawks88 on August 20, 2024, 03:08:45 PMHuntingdon has posted a roster today.
163 total

28 Srs - including 3 who were listed as Srs last year
30 Jrs
38 So
65 Fr

The 3 returning Srs are LB Ty Martinez, RB James Cheatham, and K Will Edwards.


This post makes me sad, that these scumbags are prepping for a season and we are prepping our campus for sale.....    :'(

Honestly, I'll be rooting you guys on, y'all had one of the best gameday atmospheres we went to.  Carry that D3 banner for the state.
The roster shows two guys as coming from BSC. One is a sophomore LB who didn't have any stats. The big one is JR DL Ricky Spence who was the third leading tackler and had 11 sacks. He had 12 tackles with 1.5 sacks and 3.5 TFL against us last year so apparently he was pretty well familiar with our backfield. ;)
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: BSCpanthers on August 30, 2024, 07:42:06 PM
The LB listed from BSC is Michael Battle, he had actually played in 2023 for Millsaps, he was transferring to BSC, then we closed and he headed to Huntingdon. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on August 30, 2024, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: BSCpanthers on August 30, 2024, 07:42:06 PMThe LB listed from BSC is Michael Battle, he had actually played in 2023 for Millsaps, he was transferring to BSC, then we closed and he headed to Huntingdon. 
I see now. So he does have some experience then. That's good.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 08, 2024, 10:08:08 AM
Not very much positive for Huntingdon in this one besides the running game looking good for some stretches. We were just overall too inconsistent to sustain many drives but Berry had a lot to do with that. Defense also had times that they looked good but would have breakdowns and give up big plays but then #3 had a lot to do with that too. I'm sure some stuff will get cleaned up with the open date and we will be solid going forward.

Not a good start for the conference pretty much as usual with a 1-7 record and Maryville getting the only win.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 18, 2024, 10:08:38 PM
Interesting development according to one of the local tv stations on their Wednesday bit on the local college teams, apparently Huntingdon starting QB Dorian Smith and backup Blake Smith are both out this week so freshman Jake White will be starting. If so this will be HC's first freshman starting QB since Zach Golson in 2004. He's a guy I've heard good things about so hopefully the running game will be effective and  the line will keep him protected so we can see what he can do.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 21, 2024, 03:35:28 PM
Hawks take NC Wesleyan 49-28. Running game was solid with Garner over 100 and Williams with 94 and 2 TD each. Freshman QB White was solid before going out in the 3rd so we finished the game with 4th string QB Aiden Cox who was shaky at first made some plays late to stretch the lead.
Still too many big plays given up by the defense and had a stretch of the 3rd with too many penalties. Always good to get the win, though.
Another long trip to Hendrix next week.
Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 27, 2024, 08:45:14 PM
The flooding across western NC has moved the Brevard@Maryville to Sunday as it gives Brevard issues with travel.
https://mcscots.com/news/2024/9/27/general-schedule-reboot.aspx
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 29, 2024, 09:51:53 AM
Quote from: Hawks88 on September 27, 2024, 08:45:14 PMThe flooding across western NC has moved the Brevard@Maryville to Sunday as it gives Brevard issues with travel.
https://mcscots.com/news/2024/9/27/general-schedule-reboot.aspx
The game is postponed as Brevard hasn't been able to travel due to the catastrophic conditions in the west NC, east Tenn mountains.

https://mcscots.com/news/2024/9/28/maryville-brevard-football-postponed.aspx
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on September 29, 2024, 09:59:17 AM
4 turnovers in the first six minutes of the third quarter put a big dent in our chances today but our defense stood tall to keep us in it and we still had chances. But after being on the field for pretty much the whole third quarter the defense ran out of steam at the end as Hendrix managed to drive down for the winning field goal as time expired, 31-28.

Back into conference play next week at home with Belhaven.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 05, 2024, 08:34:29 PM
Hawks88
Great to see yall today. It was a wild game.
stay safe, keep the faith and Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 05, 2024, 10:56:24 PM
Yes , it was good to see you, DG. That was a pleasant surprise.
Solid win for the Hawks, though far from perfect. Still some breakdowns, big mistakes, and too many/bad penalties. Good to finally be on the positive side of the turnover battle.
I thought Dorian Smith, back from injury, had a really good game at QB. Did a good job taking what the defense was giving, not forcing anything or trying to do too much.
Timothy McReynolds had big day with kick returns. 3 kickoff returns for 211 yards with one TD(and another to the BU 8) and a punt return for 20 yards.

Need to take care of business with a long trip to Methodist up next.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 12, 2024, 03:33:55 PM
Go Hawks, taking a day off from the farm and watching the Hawks play on the computer screen.
 They looked really good today
keep the faith
Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 12, 2024, 05:56:26 PM
Hawks went to Fayetteville and did what they needed to do. Got the lead early and the defense kept them controlled the whole way. Took care of business on the long trip and were able to get a lot of young guys on the field in the second half.
Now to see what we really have with two big ones coming up. At Maryville next week then home against Brevard.

Let's go Hawks.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on October 19, 2024, 08:23:54 PM
wow, Maryville whipped the Hawks pretty well today
Maybe we can come back with a win Next week
Congrats to Maryville
 Go Hawks
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on October 20, 2024, 09:52:09 AM
We just didn't play well enough to overcome a very good Maryville team and some iffy officiating.
Need to get back on track against Brevard for homecoming next.
Surprised to see that Brevard lost to Lagrange yesterday.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 02, 2024, 09:13:41 PM
we havent played well in 3 weeks :)
Ouch,,, we lost to LaGrange
well.... Go Hawks anyway
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 03, 2024, 06:06:33 PM
Yep. Several weeks of less than good football. A lot like the bad year we had in 2018. Stopped by the JV game today and saw more guys on crutches and guys with boots. Too many of those this year. There are a whole lot of young guys getting to play and gain experience for the future though, so hopefully we can have a good bounce-back like we had in 2019.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 09, 2024, 09:16:18 PM
Go Hawks
 Todays win was a good way to end a bad year.
Hopefully next year will be better. Keep the faith Hawks88
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on November 09, 2024, 09:29:27 PM
One more next week, at home against Greensboro to finish 5-5.

Go Hawks!
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: DGPugh on November 23, 2024, 05:51:23 PM
Way to Go Murr-vul
nice job, keep it up
stay safe, everyone please have a wonderful Thanksgiving
keep the faith
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ralph Turner on November 23, 2024, 05:57:30 PM
Congrats Murvul!  Announcing your move to the SAA?
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on December 09, 2024, 03:02:50 PM
Maryville QB Rollins in the transfer portal.

https://x.com/brysonrollins10/status/1866183243441053920
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: scottiedoug on December 10, 2024, 12:31:53 PM
Interesting decision. Being at the very top in skill and accomplishment in D3 certainly offers opportunities to see how that translates in D2 or D1, which of course might also come with some money and scholarship.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 14, 2025, 10:11:31 AM
It hasn't been published yet but this is supposed to be Huntingdon's schedule.

6-Sep    at Berry
13-Sep    Hendrix
20-Sep    McMurry
4-Oct    Methodist
11-Oct    at Greensboro
18-Oct    NC Wesleyan
25-Oct    at Lagrange
1-Nov    at Brevard
8-Nov    Southern Va
15-Nov    at Belhaven

Unfortunately we couldn't match a date with Maryville but were able to pick up McMurry for week three. I don't know if that's a home-and-home or a single game.
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Ron Boerger on April 14, 2025, 10:39:25 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 09, 2024, 03:02:50 PMMaryville QB Rollins in the transfer portal.

https://x.com/brysonrollins10/status/1866183243441053920

Just a note to mention that, four months later, Mr. Rollins apparently is still in the portal as he hasn't announced a landing yet. 
Title: Re: FB: USA South Athletic Conference
Post by: Hawks88 on April 14, 2025, 11:14:56 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 14, 2025, 10:39:25 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on December 09, 2024, 03:02:50 PMMaryville QB Rollins in the transfer portal.

https://x.com/brysonrollins10/status/1866183243441053920

Just a note to mention that, four months later, Mr. Rollins apparently is still in the portal as he hasn't announced a landing yet. 

Same for a few Huntingdon guys who announced in December that they were in the portal. There were a few posts early on about offers but none have updated about where they might be going.
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