I don't know any more about Tucker, or where he went.
I did get confirmation on the basketball playoff structure.
It's a normal 8 team tourney, 1-8, 2-7, 3-6 ,4-5, etc
So anyone got any opinions on what's going to happen second semester? Surprise teams, etc, etc.?
I have you rsurprise team, baby! Lets go riv. Miller is coming back and will surprise the conference with a new found jump shot. He is healthy and should be really fired up due to the injury and surgery that kept him out for the whole first semester. It's Miller Time for sure!
I don't think there's going to be a whole lot of surprises in the second half. The GNAC is wide open this year so there's not many teams left to provide shock value. Norwich, JW, Emerson, WNEC, Emmanuel, Suffolk, and maybe SVC should battle hard all semester for the 1-7 slots and should get into the tournament. Most teams in the GNAC either won important non-conference games or were very close to beating some of the top teams in New England.
The upsets might come from the 7 or 8 seeds- two of the three remaining teams will qualify out of DWC, Riv, and Albertus but historically the 7 and 8 seeds have been quickly dispatched in the tourney and I don't think any of these teams have a chance to upset the 1 or 2 seeds, but that's why they call them upsets!
Can someone talk about SVC? How the heck are they 0-9? They've had close games with Williams and Keene but also lost to RPI, Curry, and Cazenovia. No rhyme or reason to that...
They might get rolling in the second half...hard to believe they've fallen so far so fast after being at the top for the last two seasons. I know they have a new coach and lost some players from last year- maybe someone from SVC can give more info.
It should be an entertaining season with a lot of close games- it's been that way so far and I don't see much changing.
Not so sure what is going on up in Bennington. I havent been able to get to a game yet. Looking at the roster it seems to be a fairly young team with a lot of new faces and there are some guys from last years team who are still there. They have a new coach, so I think this is just going to be a rebuilding year for them. I would love to see them win a few, and get some momentum going. Seems like they have some close ones and then it just gets away...
OK, thanks Anne...I look forward to hearing more from you once you can see them live. I'll be at Norwich-Emerson tonight @ Pine Manor, 7PM.
Should be a good one. It'd be a big roadie for the Cadets and the Lions need to home serve.
The Cadets already played recently, dropping a tough 69-66 game at J & W. This is the Lions 1st game of the semester.
The league really needs to start everyone off at the same time for a sense of fair play. It's not right that teams get an advantage of getting games under theie belt while others wait.
new as a GNAC fan this year. Have been following the conference for a year or so, and agree that it's a toss-up for an outright powerhouse this season. Last year J&W and So. Vt. were 1-2 but have lost some key players/coaches. Look to the Cadets of Norwich possibly, waiting in the wings to make a move. Are 4-1 now with a tough loss to J&W. J&W got hot second half with 8 out of 9 3's and won by 3. Some good incoming freshmen, with some veterans could have Norwich as the team to beat!
Emerson 57, WNEC 46 @ WNEC...any more details on this one?
Sounds like the Lions played some great D.
Rivier over #1 Johnson & Whales
Rivier Smacks Southern Vermont
Is there a reason there is material on this GNAC site that dates back to November? It would seem to delete itself after 2-3 months. Or can I delete some of it off myself. It would be nice to see some people comment about the current standings of their school. The conference still has students and graduates that follow hoops. What else is there to follow in the winter?
Emmanuel vs. Emerson.... Who will win? Does anybody know if these teams are good?
Emerson is playing very well this year. I am suprised to see them at the place they are after losing Robert Hennigan, probably the best ballplayer the GNAC will ever see. It takes a lot for a team to make up for a graduation like that and they have done very well. Norwich seems to be on their level with Emmanuel and a few others a couple steps back.
I had a chance to see Emmanuel play and they do not seem to be the power house as predicted in the beginning of the season. They have very very very soft post players that can be manhandled and are in need of a ponit guard. No problem for Emerson tonight! Take my word!
I agree, Emmanuel is horrible, Emerson will blow them out 2night. Their point guard is average and their post players foul alot. I do not even see emmanuel making the playoffs. I heard they have a new player, but he shouldn't make a difference.
SO what about those Emmanuel Saints..... ! lol.
hey genius... u posted from the same IP address everytime... its obvious u are the same person using different names
and in Emmanuels defense, they uh, beat Emerson and it wasnt even close, at all...
How can anyone say Emmanuel is horrible? Yeah, they beat Emerson but even if they lost, it wouldn't mean they're horrible, when exacly the opposite is true.
I think the Saints have gotten a lot better and have shown improvement evey year since they've fielded a team.
Coaches Jamahl Jackson and Joe Walsh know what they're doing and they have good players. This is a team that'll be in the GNAC tourney mix.
That whole exchange was just odd. I'm not associating with this board anymore.
Hoops Fan, I like your input. You are one of the reason's I got on board. You have good insight to the conference and get people talking. Don't let one or two sway your input.
Emereson plays Norwich this Sat.. Big game !! Cheatham for Norwich, got GNAC Honor Roll this week for his play in the past 3 Cadet victories. He's making a big difference on boards and scoring. Hensley is taking care of the ball and can dish well,and has range on the 3's. Team has some good depth on the bench that could help out at any time.
I see my triple talk is throwing some people off...no need to diss the Saints was all I was trying to say. They're going to be a pesky 3-4 seed in the tourney.
1st place and the right to host the tournament semis/finals is on the line tomorrow @ Norwich. Cadets topped the Lions in a close on in Boston, so the Cadets will put the Lions two games back of the top with a win tomorrow.
Lions held the Rams to 43 last night in a really tight game....Emerson 54- Suffolk 43. It was tied at 38 with about 6 minutes to play when Emerson went on a 10-0 run keyed by David Miller's defense.
Should be a good one as usual...a lot of close games again this season.
D3hoops Fan's (Poster's) Top 25 Poll next year?
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I am currently thinking about running a fan's poll for the Top 25 starting next season (may not have a poll until the new year, to avoid previous year's bias, among other things). I am looking for posters who are knowledgeable not only about their teams, but about their conference and even other conferences, and having a familiarity about other regions as well. Obviously, there will be some bias towards the teams you know, but it is very important to become familiar with other teams from other regions of the nation. Though this is a Top 25 poll for fun, it is important to take it seriously and not just vote your team #1 just for the sake of it. I also ask that you not miss sending in your ballots any week. It's not a pick em league where you simply go 0-25 for the week! Ballots would be submitted by Sunday night/early Monday morning, prior to the official D3Hoops poll coming out. This poll would be strictly independent of the official poll.
If you are interested, feel you qualify, and are willing to take this seriously, to a point, please email me to show your interest. Include in the subject line: Poster's Poll, or something like that. Also include your handle, since I most likely won't know your handle from your real name (email address), the conference/team and region you would "represent". I'd like to get at least one poster from each region.
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how has nobody posted anything in weeks?
Is anyone out there????
Emerson beat WNEC today in a classic- 66-64 in OT to get the #2 seed in the GNAC tourney.
Let's get some tourney chatter going!
Congratulations to the Cadets of Norwich University for their fine regular season record. All season they showed great team unity and had the depth in players that no one man had to carry the team. Four years ago their record was 6 and 18 and did not qualify for the Conference tourney, and this season they were 18 and 6 and got the #1 seed. This shows a remarkable turnaround in the program and a tribute to coaches Booth and Seward. GOOD LUCK in the upcoming Conference tourney.
So I haven't really been paying attention to the GNAC in weeks, but what happened this year? DWC came out of no where, and from what I understand were in the hunt for their first playoff appearance in like 6 years. I saw them get pounded by Emmanuel yesterday. Emmanuel did not seem too impressive. I mean they did beat DWC 90-70, but other than their starters, their bench did not seem very deep.
What does the playoff schedule look like? I guess there are a couple games left to be decided, or atleast one very impotrant one. From what I understand, if SVC loses again today, than DWC gets into the tournament I guess as the 8th seed. This is a huge step in the right direction for DWC, and I'm proud to see them do so well. If Coach Davis can keep everyone together, they could become a top team in the years to come. All that experience the freshman got this year will only help the program.
I lik Emerson they have alot of young freshman including Dawkins and Tovar (although it wrongly states hes a junior) i think they could surprise norwich we'll see.....
Tonight is the quarterfinals. 1-8, 2-7, 3-6 and 4-5 will play this evening.
#8 D-Web @ #1 Norwich
#7 Suffolk @ #2 Emerson
#6 Rivier @ #3 Emmanuel
#5 J & W @ #4 Western New England
Should be a lot of good action tonight. JW- WNEC went to OT last week and Riv has been surprising as of late. We'll see what tonight has in store for the GNAC.
UTScwha, you do a terrible job of trying to cover up that you play for DW or are affiliated with them in some way...and that you're not really Kenny Oulette...you talk about him and DW like they're the Cleveland Cavaliers who suddenly got good when Kenny Oulette, oops I mean Lebron James came onto the team. The only reason why DW is in the playoffs is because the whole league was not as competitive this year...I will give credit where it's due though, J.J. Oliver is a good player as well as a couple other decent freshmen...but as for years to come, the whole team is gonna be transfering next year, which shows that NO...Chad Davis cannot keep the team together!...and DW will continue to rival for the leagues bottom spot.
He's not Kenny Oulette, but I wouldn't be surprised if he went to high school with him.
So let's hear it about tonight...it's semifinal Thursday.
#5 Johnson and Wales @ #1 Norwich
These teams split during the regular season, each winning at home. Wales won by 3 (69-66) in Providence and the Cadets won by 21 (81-60) in Northfield.
Possible keys? As of 2/13, Wales was the #1 team in the GNAC %-wise at the FT line, Norwich was 9th. Both teams don't get to the stripe that often, but if the refs call it tight, Wales might pick up a few points from the line. The other major factor is rebounding. Norwich holds a major edge here, as they have out-rebounded their opponents by 12 a game, while J & W has been out-rebounded by nearly 10 per contest.
Key to the game- Jay-dubs big men need to keep the rebound numbers close and get to the line. Norwich needs to maximize second shots.
Norwich wins and stays home for the final. Cats win and they roll to Boston to play one of the "E" schools from the other side of the bracket.
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#3 Emmanuel @ #2 Emerson
Not much needs to be said here. It'll be a good one until the end. These teams split (each winning at home) and know what to expect from each other. The last game @ PMC was a game of runs, and Emerson got the last one to win the game.
That's enough of that. Tip-off is 7PM.
It is time to find out who is in... and who is out.
Whose bubble has been burst and who is wearing Cinderella's glass slippers.
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Ok, so check it out. How does WNEC get an ECAC bid after losing to jwu first round of the tourney? How do they get a bid over Emmanuel, and for that fact JWU?
But, excluding that, congrats on the first round win, even though you dont deserve to be in the tourny...
Whats the confrence look like next year? I'm a JWU fan, and only know about them. Id like to know about the rest of the conference, and how we look next season. As for JWU, they are losing only two in seniors brian bannister and dice yoshimoto. Though they were both huge contributers to the team, they may prove to be liabilities well worth losing next season. dice's lack of agression with the ball, pressure handling, decision making, and his risk to turn the ball over are all things JWU will be better without. Replacing him will be easy with return of Cory Brown. Cory saw little action this year between eligibility and injury, but showed his presence. His speed is unmatched in the country. if he can improve his ball handaling, playbook knowledge, and shooting, he can prove to be a star in this conference.
Brian bannister will be a loss to the team. however, his inconsistency, turnovers, and often poor shot choice will not be missed. Replacing him overall will be hard though.
The Wildcats overall will return 11 players. They should be primed to be one of the tops in the conference. I fell one of the keys for jwu is in their big men. If they can get Forwards Jeff Barbosa and Brock Champaine into shape, the conference is in trouble. Both are very big, and showed flurishses of a dominant big man presence throughout the season. Together, they have the potential to be one of the best big men duo's in the country. They wil ahve to work hard this season on weight, strenght, and wond though.
another key to them being ready to go, is moving coner moran to the 3. Coner has been stuck on the block for 3 years. even though he is big, he is a wong player, not one for mixing it up down low. If he can get to the wing for his senior season, and do damage shooting, cutting, and penetrating, he will be a force in the conference.
Fellow senior next season, Brian fernandez will also be ready to play next season. He will need to develop a right hand, and severly improve his shot selection. He is deadly when open from outside, but often forces horrible shots. such choices found him on the bench for the second half of the season.
Japhet kerr had a good showing this season, primarilly as a defensive force. if he can improve his already sufficating d, along with his ball handling and shooting, he will be a valuable asset to the team.
last post continued
the x factors for next season are deffinetly in forwards Jason Jones, Greg samuels, and Tirone McCray. Jones started a few games in the beggining of the season, before eligibility problems. Hes a big rebounder, and very aggressive, despite his only 6'2 size. If he can learn to gel with the team, and leave his attitude asside, he can contribute big for the cats next season. Samuels is another undersized forward with a gift of jumping. He is also one of the naturally strongest players i have ever seen. if he can improve all aspects of his game over the off season, he can serve as a hige part of the team of the bench for the big men, or jones. Finally, tirone mccray will serve as conar morans breather. Tirone has the same game, same frame. However, he is a little more able on the block, and less athletic. Depending on his improvment over the offseason, he may even be able to oust the senior, providing the polotics dont getinvolved. All is dependednt on his off season dedication.
well, thats it for JWU. lemme here from the other fans, whats your team gonna be like next year? lets get this forum back alive like last season!!
Does anyone know what's going on at Suffolk? Have they hired a coach yet?
Adam Nelson from Newbury took the Suffollk job. He is also bringing on former Newbury aide Rich Fazzi who played for him at Becker.
Who do You think is going to finish on top of the Gnac this year?
I know many might laugh but my pick is Emmanuel. Emmanuel will surprise many teams this year :o.
Anyone go to any games???
I heard they got accepted to the CCC.. Any truth to this?? If so who is going to replace them?? Rumor has is that Newbury, St. Joe's of Maine, Lasell and Mt. Ida are all interested in the GNAC.
Yeah WNEC is going to the CCC in the fall of 2007, its definite. Look for some of the lower CCC teams to be headed to the GNAC in return though, as the CCC is trying to go down to 8 teams.
Any early nominantions for POY in the GNAC?
How about Godbout the PG from WNEC, or Will Dawkins from Emerson (i just saw he scored something like 39 in against UMB...Its still early though
d3bballinboston- I am famiiar with the situation and can say that I know one of the schools that you mentioned is seriously considering applying to the GNAC, but since I am affilated with that school and the athletic department, I would rather nother comment on which school it is. Also despite Suffolks's early season struggles I think they will be fine this year.
who is gonna win the league this year?? havent herd much from anyone
Should see some good games starting up in the GNAC in the next week. With pre-season tournament games finished, the league can get started with head-to-head. Like the looks of Norwich again this season. Even though they lost some key seniors, they have Cheatham and Hensley returning with alot of experience, and additional experience in several sophmore's. They are off to a good start.
Yes, they are off to a good start, however they have not faced anyone of any substance yet so dont jump the gun too quickly. From what i have heard around the leauge, Emmanuel and WNEC are pretty good this year as well.
I wanted to weigh in on whats going on in the GNAC after x-mas break.... I've seen WNEC twice (although it was against Daniel Webster and Rivier) this week and they looked real good. I would say they could be the team to beat in the GNAC!
Well obviously WNEC isn't too good or is Southern Vermont a sleeper. Mountaineers beat WNEC tonight anyone know what happened!!!!!!!
Southern Vermont has some talent, but WNEC definitly should not loose to them...I have seen some games and to me the top two teams right now are Norwich and Emmanuel...then there is Suffolk, Wnec, Emerson all in the mix
Emmanuel has some depth ....that freshman from NY can shoot....Jamahl has done a very good job in recruiting and ...they are only going to get better.....
FYI - Jamahl is not the only one recruting for EC. He brought in a former UMASS- Amherst player (Ted Cottrell) from the Camby era to recrute the area. From talking to him (Cottrell) this past summer, he has been able to get a lot more bites for a small program like Emmanuel beyond just locally.
Things are starting to shape up a little bit here now. It seems as though Emannuel is the best in the league closely followed by Norwich. I dont know whats up with Norwich losing two in a row. And then we have Emerson in third, didnt realize they were that good. Then Suffolk, and WNEC. WNEC also seems to be pretty good as well.
I do know ...that Jamahl...does not recruit by himself...I do understand the recruiting aspect ...of D3 schools...
When it comes down to who is actually making a statement there is no one all the so called top teams have shown they are able to be beaten. A sleeper definately is SVC ive seen this team play and they are limited in actual basketball players but have won 5 games already in conference and the losses were all tough games never a runaway.Although the 2 most powerful teams are Emmanuel and Norwich neither of these teams are that much tougher than SVC,Emerson,Or WNEC when conference tournament play comes around look out because alot of people will be shocked.And as for player of the year when you look at wins one may take a different opinion but player stats would show SVC'c hammond is the nations leader in rebounds and also top 50 in multiple categories if SVC can pull out some big wins theres no reason he shouldnt win it unless its more funny business gnac voting
do you really think its going to be that competitive? There were obviously two or three teams dominant throughout the early season. What do we know about recent performances that make all these teams so even? Honestly, I don't follow the GNAC all that closely, I'm asking you guys who go to games.
It seems as though this yr. will be very competitive. Emmanuel is good but not great (Emerson only lost by 3 last night) and Norwich is on a 3 game losing streak. WNEC is playing very well lately. And then Emerson, suffolk and J+W are also in the mix. I could see many upsets come tourny time.
I think it's going to be that competitive....I've seen almost every team in action this season and have watched GNAC ball every season the conference has formed.
This season, the top teams are Emmanuel, Norwich, Emerson, WNEC and Suffolk. JW is right in the mix too, especially if they get playoff games at Harborside. It's pretty much this way every season....the top 2 usually advance in the quarters and then anything goes in the semis and finals.
Emmanuel and Norwich are strong and you can't count out Emerson- they've been in the finals 7 out of 10. There's still three weeks left in the regular season....a lot will come down to who gets the home games. Do teams have to drive to VT, Springfield or Boston? I think it makes a big difference- the travel even more so than home court advantage.
Most teams don't need 3-5 hours in the van and then play a big game. Check back on 2/10 for a better picture. Let's get some chatter going from some of the top teams...what do you guys think?
Nice to see the GNAC coming somewhat alive.
Yes travel is definately an affecting factor and i believe it has been for the entire season there is some gnac play tonight hope to hear some feedback
Emerson plays @ Suffolk tonight....only game on tonight's docket. I hear they are expecting a good crowd. I should be able to get there tonight (if I can beat the rush to a seat.)
I saw the first game.....good game, close down the stretch. Emerson had a 16 point lead in the 2nd half and Suffolk cut it to 4 with two minutes to play but couldn't get closer.
Emerson has been playing better lately, especially on the defensive end. No reason to expect anything less than a hard fought game. Should be fun.
I haven't been to Suffolk since the '04 GNAC quarters when Aaron Young went 7-7 from 3-point land to help the Lions beat the Rams...that was a classic.
I saw that game tonight. Emerson can play man. They are a totally undersized team which plays their butts off. They were completelty the better team and looked like a team that works hard enough to beat anyone. They completely smother the ball handler whenever he gets the ball and the play smart. It will be an interesting couple of weeks in the GNAC...
Yeah...I was there too. This is typical Emerson- they start slow, roles get defined and then they pick up steam. They'll most likely get at least one home game in the tourney, maybe two depending on the rest of the regular season and who wins in the quarters. They'll be a tough out if they keep defending like this.
Play of the night last night was midway in the 1st half with Suffolk up 22-21. Alfredo Tovar almost created a 10-second violation on his own against John Murphy....Murph has to call a TO right at the 10-second mark to save the posession. That fired up the Lion D and set the tone for the game....then they outscored Suffolk 23-10 to go up 12 at the break. Suffolk cut the lead to 5 at 52-47 but a 9-1 Emerson run closed it out.
And for anyone who was at the game......how bout the fast break dunk by 5'8" Lion Morales Hendricks......up, up and awayyyyyyyyyy!
Upset of the day....Emerson over Norwich at NU...Big win for EC, and big loss for NU.....
Emmanuel won.......
Suffolk lost to S.vt...looks like they may be starting to fall apart.....
So now we have
1. Emannuel 12-1
2. Tied Norwich 9-4, Emerson 9-4
3. WNEC 8-5
If its not E vs E for the conference tournament crown, I would be very suprised.
I saw the Emerson, S.vt game today.
Emerson looks totally different than that suffolk game I saw them in. They seemed to cruise through the game today. They didn't play hard (and that is unlike EC). I dont know why but today they did not look like a good team. Another thing is they got killed by S. vt's guard posting their smaller guards up. S Vt. just lobbed it over their heads numerous times. I think teams in the league may be catching on that Emerson is very small. Hopefully they will be ready for their rematch against Emannuel next wk.
Watch out for WNEC. They beat Norwich today, they can definitly end up in the finals this year.
Well last night follows up what i said previously there is going to be alot of upsets in the gnac.WNEC beat Norwich and SVC topped Emerson its coming down to the last couple of games and any slip ups can lead to a difference in tournament play.Good luck to the 8 teams entering the tournament ....any predictions on the all conference team
My predcitions
1st team-
John Murphy-suffolk
Steve Georgoulis-Emerson
Jon Godbout-WNEC
Rene Cheatham-Norwich
And then you can interchange...Doug Hammond from S.VT, Geoff Hensley from NU...Mike Mcmahon, from Rivier,
OK, now any shot of an at-large bid is gone; this tournament should be interesting. I'm guessing anyone in it has a shot at winning the whole thing.
Oh wow you say cheatham 1st team you must either go to norwich or is related to him because there is no was your saying interchange the nations rebounder in hammond with a player like cheatham who is only a solid role player.Im not too sure if you guys are really following the gnac the 1st team should go
Steve georgoulis-Emerson
Doug Hammond- SVC
John Murphy-Suffolk
Jon Godbout- WNEC
and only interchangeable is between MCmahon-Riv and Hensley-Norwich
And as far as POY tough battle between Hammond and Georgoulis
So is anyone going to beat Emmanuel? They've been on quite a roll of late.
I know there are byes, but does the GNAC do a six team or a ten team tournament?
A lot of things can change this week.
Quote from: the_real_gnac on February 13, 2006, 11:09:16 AM
Oh wow you say cheatham 1st team you must either go to norwich or is related to him because there is no was your saying interchange the nations rebounder in hammond with a player like cheatham who is only a solid role player.Im not too sure if you guys are really following the gnac the 1st team should go
Steve georgoulis-Emerson
Doug Hammond- SVC
John Murphy-Suffolk
Jon Godbout- WNEC
and only interchangeable is between MCmahon-Riv and Hensley-Norwich
And as far as POY tough battle between Hammond and Georgoulis
hey i look at this stuff a great deal and im curious as to how you figure cheatham is a solid role player.. just curious have you ever watched him play. not taking anything away from any of those other players but cheatham is a tremendous player with a great upside.. ive been to a great deal of games. but thursday's game nu has against svc should be a good one.
svc looses against norwich by 1 point. 76-75....very good game. i definitely think svc is going to surprise the GNAC in the playoffs. they lost by a buzzer beatermade by cheatem with less than a second left on the clock. very exciting game it was.it was also interesting to see svc's hammonds match off with cheatam...Svc's hammond definitely did his usual thing grabbing 15 rebounds and having 19 points while cheatem put 20 pts in the bucket with a number of rebounds too. but the difference came whjen svc who was loosing by 13 with 5 minutes left on the clock came back on a run to lead the game by a point with 9 secs left on the clock. considering that svc virtually has no bench, fatigue contributed to their loss which was shown in the team captain bonnet missing a clutch freethrow to catch up with norwich late in the second half. Henslely of nu proved how legitimate a guard he is in the clucth period by managing to find open men for a clutch bucket.
i actually witnessed cheatham play a couple games dont get me wrong he is a good player but he is not much of a consitant threat. very good player but i would say 2nd team. the playoff brackets are going to be very interesting.i predict a couple of shockers but none consisting of emmanuel they will be playing in the championship saturday. tuesdays match ups are going to be interesting but how teams have ben playing as of lately it wouldnt shock me to see an emmanuel vs svc in the gnac championship . great season to all coaches and players now lets see what happens in tournamen time
Yeah, SVC is playing as well as anyone right now aside from Emmanuel. Aside from the Saints, I think any of the teams can find their way to the finals if they play well.
As far as I can see, here are the quarterfinal matchups for Tuesday:
8-Riv @ 1-Emmanuel
7-SVC @ 2-Norwich
6-Suffolk@3-WNEC
5-J & W @ 4-Emerson
How wacky is the GNAC? SVC lost 2 close games vs. Norwich...but Suffolk beat WNEC twice, JW beat Emerson twice, and WNEC beat Norwich twice...and Emerson has played everyone tougher on the road than at Pine Manor. Aside from Emmanuel making the semis, I can't make a guess on who else advances with them until Tuesday night around 11. The 5-6-7 seeds are much better than in past tourneys. All 4 top seeds have usually advanced in the past- I bet that is NOT the case after Tuesday.
It's ON...
greetings u earthlings.....so j&W loses against svc...hmmmm...this is going to be a very exciting playoff session...predictions: svc beats norwich...(just because of the rule of life which says "in life u cant get lucky 3 times)....suffolk beats WNEC....and emmanuel destroys riv....j&W beats emerson...
lets see what happens in the 1st round
will be some good games on tuesday.
Rudebuoyz-
If you think that it's hard for one team to beat another in a season three times, why didn't you pick Emerson and WNEC to win tonight? Each lost twice to tonight's opponent....just a question.
The games are really too close to call either way. Emmanuel is a favorite tonight, but it's not like that game is a gimmie either- Saints won by 2 at Riv and by 10 at home. The Raiders do have McMahon, and if he gets it going he can score 35 himself and make it a game down the stretch.
Tonight will be fun and we can revisit the games tomorrow and see what the semis hold.
Anyone notice the players that Riv is losing due to the head coach? It's a shame that the admin doesn't recognize the incompetence involved. They could and should have been a contendor in their conference for 3 years with Rookie of Year and Leading Scorers, but given the head coach's ineptness they will never have a winning season.
is theer a web-site for statistics (team and individual) for the GNAC?
I'm not sure if there are stats there, but scores and stuff can be found at the GNAC website (http://www.thegnac.com/sports/mens/basketball.php).
Probably a wise idea not to go down that road. Regarding Rivier men's basketball, I have to respectfully disagree with the previous poster. Coach doen't need (or expect) me to defend him, but I have coached against him on several occasions in my days in the GNAC. Now that I am out and far away, I can say that I understand some of the challenges he faces at Riv. The man is not inept. Fact is, he can flat out coach. Look at how far that team has come - in a time when Emmanuel is coming on strong, Norwich had it's run, and Emerson is - well, Emerson. JWU will always have athletes and can pick them off trees if they so choose. Rivier gets a different type of kid up there. It isn't easy to sell college basketball to a kid in Nashua. The facility is antiquated, and schedulling classes can be a pain in the butt up there. Yet, he has been able to get a rookie of the year and a scoring leader recently. That says he's out looking. Dave does things the right way, and he expects everyone else to, as well. He respects the game and expects the same in return. I have broken down his film and picked apart his sets - he is intricate and precise. I would have no problem sending a kid to him because he is a man of integrity. Hell, I just may. Either way, lets keep in mind that this board has come a long way since the days of coach and program bashing. Best of luck to all teams left in the tournament - Coach Finn in North Carolina.
Well said creekhoops!!! Why is it if a team isn't doing well it's always the coaches fault but when they are doing great the coach is great? sometimes schools just do not get the support they need from administration to make their teams any better. Some coaches get lucky with their talent. SVC brought in some great athletes when Marks was there but no matter what type of coach goes to SVC, DWEB or even Rivier (except for volleyball) they will never be able to compete with the likes of Amherst, or Williams or maybe even any NESCAC school. They just do not get the support. There is nothing to do in Bennington or Nashua. Only certain types of kids are going to go to those schools and it is tough to get one great athlete let alone 5 or 6 at the same time. IT's not always the coaches fault and if you have never coached on the collegiate level you will never understand.
Well to all the good Gnac players i would like to say great season and i would love to say congradultaions to the gnac player of the year Douglas Hammond great season SVC put up a great challenge with their limited number of actual b ball players but congrats to him and the GNAC champs
Do you mind me asking who said Hammond was the player of the year?
you talk about riveria,DW, and So. Vt., not being in a big town or b-ball area. It seems Norwich has been able to do alright for the past 4 years being in upstate Vt. and in a town of Northfield!
Well in the early 90s, coach Griffith had the DWeb kids playing well. In 1999, Rivier had a nice run. And we all know about the Marks-era Mountaineers at SVC. Excellent point - Northfield, VT is a tough draw for recruiting. But Norwich is a demanding school, with tough standards for military and non military students. A solid recruiting class can carry well over for a few seasons. Coach Booth has done an outstanding job there. So, one cannot blame the town for a lack of success. However, it is hit or miss in D3 recruiting no matter where you go. The point is, I think, that if a kid is looking for a Norwich Type school, with their standards lofty as they are, your choices are limited. There is always West Point... However, Rivier being a private school only 30 minutes from a much cheaper Fitchburg State, with nothing extremely unique to offer, is a tough place to convince a kid to spend 25,000+ to attend each year. In the Ebb and flow of things, Riv will see their way into the top four. It isn't easy when you have competition who is also improving each year. Tough to mark progress that way.
Actually, Jamball1444 has it right. the program has lost 3 or 4 players this year because they hated the coach. Team chemistry is the reason they lost so many close games - and that is the coach's fault. As far as "he can flat out coach"; much if not all of that credit should go to his assistant coach.
With all due respect to Carolina, it sounds like you've been out of the loop as far as Riv goes. I don't know the head coach's long term history, but if you look at his W/L record it pretty much tells the story. The point you made about his recruiting skills is one thing I can't argue because he did have a Rookie of the Year two years in a row and a Scoring Leader as well. There are definitely other players on Riv with talent that should be competitive with their conference. This has to make one wonder with all this talent why they still can't win...that is inept coaching. I totally agree with hoopsfab4, riv's asst coach has a great rapport with the players and it's a shame he can't step up into the head coach position...that's when you'd see riv have a winning record for the first time in.......forever????
Well Jamball everyone is entitled to their opinion and you may be right about the coach. I dont know. I do not know him. However all I am saying is that everyone is too quick to judge the coach when things are going wrong. Everyone in the stands seems to be a critic and everyone thinks they are a coach but until they are put in tough situations they shouldn't be so quick too judge.
As far as Douglas Hammond getting poy. That is correct. Heard it through some GNAC coaches. Congrats to him. He is an outstanding player!!!!!!!!
Thanks Carolina, I respect your opinion as well. My opinions of the Riv head coach are only based on the last 4 years. I was not quick to judge him at all and I'm well aware that coaching from the stands is alot easier than actual coaching. You could base my comments on his losing record, you could base it on what I said earlier about having "Rookie's of the Year", "Leading Scorers" and still not able to pull of a winning season or even close to it. I would think that given the above that the coach would have to be held accountable. I guess if I there was any evidence at all that he was a successful coach in any way and I'm not even referring to just his losing record, I might be humbled and change my opinion. Until that time I think Riv needs to seriously consider replacing him.
Emerson 68, Emmanuel 58 - it's a final from the Yawkey Center on the Fenway.
The Lions raced out to a 30-11 lead over the 1st 15 minutes and led 42-27 at the half. The Saints cut it to 3, 54-51 with 6:30 to play but the Lions made theit FT's down the stretch.
I couldn't get to the game tonight so this is a secondhand report- but I was told it was really close over the last 5 minutes.
The Lions advance to the GNAC Tourney Finals for the 8th time in 11 seasons.
Congrats to Coach Jackson and the Saints on a fine season. A 17-1 regular season GNAC record and 20 wins overall is a lot to be proud of. They have a good young team that is well balanced and they'll be a force in the GNAC for seasons to come.
Congrats to both Emerson and Norwich. Should be a great rematch - two teams know eachother very well, having played in last year's final and twice this season. Tough place to play - long trip in the Emerson Vans, but those are tough kids and they have the drive to get it done. Norwich withstood the brunt of a tough second half of the season, and here they are once again. Deservedly so. I believe Emmanuel will receive an ECAC invite, as will the runner up. Either way, the GNAC will be well represented in the post season. A well-balanced season from the GNAC, with several teams within just a game or two from one another. Lets hope the best team wins it, and gets the GNAC a win in the NCAA tournament. Pipes - I can't believe you missed this game!!
norwich played a hard game tonight as did wnec. with hensley and godbout cancelling each other out with great defense, norwich came thru in the stretch. should make for a great finals game at norwich. cheatham another strong game with a double- double. coming on strong during tournament time.
Norwich and Emerson for a trip to the big dance. I'm picking Emerson in this one, they are on too good a run of late.
Thanks Hoops Fan- hopefully this year we will get it done. There won't be any surprises in store for Coaches Hank Smith and Paul Booth- just 40 minutes and two teams playing hard.
Last year it went down to the end- hopefully we'll be treated to the same kind of game. I know the Lions will bring max effort and hopefully that translates into our first NCAA tourney berth and our 3rd GNAC title in 8 trips to the finals.
I'll be making my way to Northfield tomorrow and I will post on Saturday night late or on Sunday morning.
Congrats to the Norwich Men and Women for pulling off the double victories in Conference titles tonight. At Norwich, Norwich managed to play solid the entire game and Coach Booth got great play from guys off the bench as well. Looking forward to see who they draw in the first round on Sunday night
Congrats to Norwich for going back to back. Congrats to emmanuel on having a good season and looks like they will be a force for years to come. Congrats to Emerson on making it to the final game again.
Norwich beat a decent elms team tonight, however SJF will be a much harder task. Good luck to them
Good win for Norwich; I didn't think they had it in them. I would love for them to pull an upset tomorrow, but those are long odds.
I guess I'm out of the loop. What really went on up there at Riv this year? Anyone got specifics, not just rumor?
everyone needs to know that this was an ok year for the svc mountaineers but just wait til next year there will be some fire coming from svc this waas a rebuilding year for them but dont worry i have a feeling they will get the gnac and get very far in the ncaa tourney congrats to the mvp of the gnac next year there should be another one and your team should make the first team the starting line up i am talking about
Thanks for the update mr. hammond
To Let you know this is Mr Hammond And i would never come on this site to give myself extra credit what i recieved i deserved and who ever the big man is thanks and next year should be good ...good luck to all the teams
Good season for the top 4-6 teams in the GNAC, especially Emanuel. Was a shame they lost to Emersonin the conference semi's. would have liked to see the rematch of norwich/Emmanuel for the title. Norwich had a few losses in Jan. cuz Hensley turned an ankle and had to sit out 3-4 games> Kid is averaging 16 pts. and 4-5 assists could have turned losses into possible wins. Would have made the conference race closer. Congrats to the 5 first team conference players. Murphy,Godbout, Hensley, Hammond, Georgoules. Unfortunately,no one from Emmanuel there and they had a great record!! 3 guards and 2 centers!! Wonder what they are looking for... Hammond and Hensley recorded double and triple respectfully in D-3 catagories, whcih shows they played consistantly every game. But in Norwich's case they came out on top with the furthest record, which shows they played more as a TEAM! It takes 5 to win most of the time, and with respect to Hammond's and Murphy's ability, its' more than shooting and scoring for a team to have only 1 or 2 shine. Norwich got alot of help out of Cheatham and Williams in scoring when Hensley had an off night. And team rebounds from Cheatham, Dupont, and Dumond, averaged 30+ s a team. That showed good balance in both their offense and defense. I'm looking for Norwich to be a strong contender next season in the GNAC.
Another solid season in the GNAC...I've been busy as hell and no time to post. A tip of the cap to the Cadets for winning the tournament and getting to the 2nd round. It was another good game, but my Lions fell short again. Not many people in the gym thought EC would rally after being down 21, but that whole house was nervous when the Lions got to within 7.
Hammond- you deserved to be POY in the GNAC, anyone who says otherwise didn't see you play.
Norwich should be good again next year but they will struggle in the beginning as they try to replace Hensley - and if they can't replace him they'll have problems. Great PG's are tougher to replace than big men in D3- I've seen it time and time again in this league.
Emerson opens their brand new gym next season- finally a place we can call our ouwn. Goodbye to Pine Manor, Chinatown Y, Mass College of Art, the Nuthouse, and captain's practice outside at the Fens. The ROTC made for good dribbling cones but I'm happy to see those days go by the boards.
Emerson should be a factor once again along with Norwich, Emmanuel, and anyone who reloads next fall.
Have a great offseason everyone and we'll do it all again in November.
why do everyone think that emmanuel and norwich is going to run over people yall should look out for the boys at svc i am tell you the gnac not be ready the are coming for the title that belongs to them............. and emerson will not be that good neither will norwich just be prepared to see a hard fought season through the gnac
Um, you're really late Big Man or else extremely early.
i am early cause it going to happen and ur mouths will be shut just leasve it at that
I couldn't care less about who wins the GNAC; my mouth will be wholly and entirely in whatever state I choose for it to be.
well just know that svc is going to win the whole thing
Hoops fan, I guess the "big man" must be the dad of one of the players, because if he was a student he'd fluncked out because of his english! S.V.C. has potential to be a good team, but again I say you have to play together as a team, and I see several individuals that are "me" players. The conference will definately be a good one to watch.
they will play together you will see they have a good chemistry and it going to show when the season starts
Quote from: THE BIG MAN on March 12, 2006, 01:47:18 PM
it going to show when the season starts
That's eight months away, man.
i know the playing and learning what each other can and cant do right now the working out and running together to take over the gnac and go far in the ncaa
Man, can someone teach this guy how to punctuate? I assume he isn't an English major...
Big Man - it is my opinion that SVC will never see the likes of the teams they had in 2002-2003, and 2003-2004. Ryan Marks brought the new flavor to Bennington, that sweet, Chicago style of basketball that was too big, to strong, too fast, and too powerful for the town to fathom. It couldn't last forever, though. Coach went to a DII team, many players left or graduated - and despite an outstanding performance from Hammond this season, there are lots of reasons why SVC won't have it like that again.
Everyone is trying to get better. Emmanuel is going to be stacked, Wales is hot on the trail of some studs, and Norwich has established themselves as contenders. SVC will have to compete with them, without the benefit of Ryan Marks' kids. It is tough to attract kids to many schools in the GNAC, SVC being one of those schools. All of the smack talking, 8 month - out predictions, and runnin' ball up at SVC between now and May will not change the fact that the Mountaineers have already reached their summit, and can expect a steady decline, back to the have-not status they enjoyed in the Pre-Marks era. That is nothing to be embarrassed of - not at all. But even Southerners still scream "the South Will Rise Again!" despite the treaty signed at Appamattox Courthouse. Enjoy your banner from '03, and the one you almost had in '04.
thats what you dont know we have some weapons that are coming back and some that are returning from those 2 year svc was good you will see they will be stronger and smarter than them and they will have a different tempo
nicely put creekhoops. every school in the GNAC is looking to get better players. The Riverer's, Albertus, WNEC, Suffolks and Emmerson, all have a good nucleus of players, and good coaches. The Emmanuel's and Norwich's have built teams the past two years and are going to have to look for good players to come into their programs on past records. I guess we'll just have to wait the "big man" out to see what happens!!
Are you comparing GNAC basketball to the Civil War? That might be a stretch there, buddy.
Hoops Fan -
You missed the point like ENaz misses free throws. I am not comparing GNAC basketball to the Civil War (where would the comparison be?) Simply put, the "Big Man" continues his rant on (to paraphrase)"rising again" up at SVC, much as TODAY's southerners often threaten "the south will rise again".
Much as the South chose their own fate and reluctantly surrendered, SVC has chosen their fate and gotten away from the "Marks"ist athletes they once brought in. It is the retrospective ranting that is being compared, not the American Civil War. Uh oh - I said "Marks"ist, not "Marxist", so please don't accuse me of calling your CCC the proletariates to the GNAC's struggling working class. Albeit a viable argument...
Sticking to basketball, what are WNEC's chances of winning the GNAC in their final season - and how does WNEC basketball fit into the CCC in 2007? Will they be Salvesque, or will they become more of a NEC with a W? Hoops fan - do tell!
I'm not exactly sure how they fit in. The only thing I can think of is that Regis might be going co-ed and no one told me, so then we'd be in a 14 team conference. They could have been added solely to make the women's teams even, I don't know. I think they'll do ok. I doubt they will be challenging for any playoff spots. Although, that is assuming they are in the North (to even Regis being in the South, even though that makes little sense geographically.
Really it seems like their addition is making way for a CCC split of some kind; I just can't get any info out of people.
I think they will be able to play with most teams, but the CCC has better, overall competition than the GNAC today. However, don't count out a CCC/GNAC swap. You don't need Regis to even things out. I know you don't want to hear this, but a CCC team has expressed interest in coming to the GNAC. Think bootom tier team...think used to be pretty good back in the Nicky Pappas days (89-93)...think not so good right now. But an AMCAT team joining the GNAC could be great for the GNAC. Other teams interested have be Lasell, St. Joes, and Green Mountain. I think Anna Maria would be a nice fit, unless you are SVC or Norwich, having to travel to Paxton - another long trip. However, the Paxton house of Pizza right on 122 is a nice place to stop after a game, you must agree! The Dunkin Donuts closes early, so hit it up early on a Saturday road trip or you'll miss it on the way out of town. A WNEC for Anna Maria swap makes both conferences more competitive.
I think we'd be more than happy to get rid of Anna Maria. However, I do think there will be some sort of shake-up of conferences in the next few years. I'm not sure how its all going to pan out yet, but teams like Gordon and Colby-Sawyer are ready to be in a more advantageous league for postseason play.
The Ocean State would love to have Salve, Roger Williams, Johnson & Wales and RIC in the same conference. However, RIC is happy in the Little East, Salve and RWU would never join the GNAC, and JWU isn't a CCC type school. However, travel would certainly be easier! Regardless, how could Colby Sawyer and Gordon get into a more competitive conference? Would they join the NEWMAC or spawn off a newer conference? A shakeup is bound to happen, I agree. But what scenario makes the most sense to you - say, 5 years from now?
I've heard rumblings that some of the more "academic" schools (or ones trying to be more academic) in the CCC may split off. This would help keep things consistent with their missions as well as open more options for other sports. Those schools would be most of the CCC-North, with the exception of UNE, which has always been kind of the black sheep anyway.
However, the more credible scenario I have heard is that Gordon is trying to get into the NEWMAC for next fall.
Teams that applied to GNAC are Anna maria, Lesley U, Mt. Ida, Lasell, St. joes of Maine, mitchell, newbury , green mountain and presque isle.
GNAC is looknig for schools that have baseball, men's tennis and men's volleyball . I have herd they are also looking to decrese travel. So i'd think that give ida, newbury lasell adn lesley all an advantage. with newbury the only one having varsity baseball (fall of 07), men's volleyball and men's tennis. They are also only taking full fledged ncaa members so that would elminate mitchell, presque isle and green mountain. If it is true that they want to keep travel down that would probally elminate anna maria, but who really knows
Anna Maria is only like twenty minutes off I-90; they wouldn't be any further for teams from Springfield than Suffolk or Emerson.
Honestly, the smartest thing to do, would be for the NAC and the GNAC to figure out how to split teams. Maybe have a NE conference (Presque Isle, Farmington, Maine Maritime, Husson, St Joes, Thomas, Daniel Webster, Rivier and maybe grab UNE when the CCC breaks apart); a Southeast conference (Becker, Emerson, Emmanuel, Johnson & Wales, Lasell, Lesley, Mt Ida, Newbury and Suffolk; and a Western conference (S Vermont, Norwich, Mitchell, Green Mountain, Elms, Johnson State, Castleton State, Albertus Magnus).
That way you could get three AQ bids out of the current two. Presque Isle is the wildcard, as they are a rediculous trek from everyone. The NE conference would be pool B for a couple years until Thomas made it to full membership or they could get UNE to join. That one just makes a little more sense.
It would be smarter for these schools to go more regional. All of them would still be competitive. If and when the CCC breaks up to get into better arrangments, there could be some pick-ups there as well.
These are just thoughts.
well the thing is with WNEC leaving there are no teams left form springfield and AMC is 45 min fromboston, which is were gnac teams of suffolk, emerson, pine manor, emmanuel are all located. so the gnac might be a little resistent to add another western mass team after just losing one. but i do like that idea of realigning into those 3 leageus. the problem is the league that doesnt get the AQ right away. thomas is a full fledged ncaa member btw.
Sorry, I got them confused with Mitchell. I know the wait for the AQ (two years, I believe) stinks, but you've got St Joe's coming from independent and the other teams being decently strong, could do ok for themselves in Pool B for a few years.
i think the gnac will be a tough league next year. i think albertus magnus is really gonna surprise people. they had a tough season this year but showed that they can play with anyone in the league. there young with four freshmen and their big man should really dominate the league next year.
GNAC has passed Newbury, Mt. Ida, Lasell, St. Joes of Maine and Anna Maria to the next stage of schools who have applied. TEams that didnt make it to the next round was Lesley, Mitchell, Green Mountain and Preque Isle.
Could be interesting who the GNAC will take, thats for sure. I'd say the front runner if you don't take into account travel is st. joe's of maine. Whats everyone's thought on this.
Lasell is a solid program right in the heart of GNAC territory. They have to be the favorite.
lasell is only good in MBB. All their other sports are really awful. Maybe their WVB team could be about 6-7th in the GNAC.
But Ida, Newbury and Lasell all are in the middle of GNAC territory. All three of them are contendors. Newbury may have a slight edge due to their varsity baseball programing starting next year. GNAC is looking to add more baseball teams and also men's tennis teams.
Believe it our not St. Joe's is probally the favorite. They have some of the best facilities in New England. All competitive programs for all their sports for the most part.
it will be interesting to see what happens at the site visits this month.
its doesnt matter who they bring to the gnac cause they are going to get killed by them svc boys
if the GNAC keeps SVC. They barely field enough players in other sports. sure they have solid numbers for Basketball by they are an embarassement to the GNAC in all other sports.
Thanks for the update on the state of the league. I am sad to see WNEC go, but there appear to be some good teams on the horizon. I would assume that Saint Joe's has the best shot. I've heard great things about their facilities (not just for basketball). Mount Ida and Lasall are probably good options too, because they are in Boston. I think Anna Maria was pretty good once, but have fallen off lately, but maybe it would help them if they were in a new league. Newbury is obviously out because they have no facilities, so it looks like a 4 school race! Any predictions? At least this gives us something to chat about until Oct. 15!
I can't see Anna Maria getting in. Their facilities stink as well and no one likes driving up there. I'm sure the CCC would be fine letting them go, but I doubt the GNAC will take them.
The GNAC needs to find a school with baseball. Only schools with baseball are St. Joe's of Maine , AMC and Newbury. The need to replace WNEC's baseball team to keep their AQ. Facilities is not that big of an issues as Newbury uses Hellenic College for all of their events and has a 5 year contract with them. Hellenic has no teams of their own. This situation works out fine. It is the Celtics old practice gym.
They also use GNAC Member Pine Manor College's softball and soccer fields for events. Most of Newbury's game managment is better than a good portion of the GNAC. I was at a basketball game there this year and was a very good event and actually has play by play for their events. In just the opposite end I seen an Emerson College home contest that was managed very poorly.
St. joes facilities are awesome. The only concern is the added travel to boston teams. The northern schools must be in favor of adding them though.
Next week is the GNAC site visits it will be interesting to see feedback on what everything turns out to be.
I disagree with Ballin. Facilities are a big deal. Emerson finally built a gym, so everone in the league will play on campus. As a (former) player, it is terrible to go to an off campus site to play. I'd rather a longer bus ride to Saint Joe's than a bad gym like Newbury or Anna Maria (at least theirs is on campus). Just my opinion. Maybe Newbury and Anna Maria should try for the NAC. Probably better academically for them (a lot of former JC's play there now).
I still vote for Saint Joe's - not that it matters.
Who votes anyway? Is it AD's or presidents from the GNAC.
Ok, I have too much time on my hands.........
If baseball is the key, and not facilities, here's the breakdown:
Mt. Ida and Lasell - no baseball
Saint Joseph's - defending NAC champion
Anna Maria - has a roster of like 20 guys. Looks ok.
Newbury - Club sport.
My vote still goes to Saint Joe's.
I feel even better about it after researching a little more.
i believe it is the Presidents, but not to sure who votes to be honest. The gym that Newbury uses is not bad. And has gone over some major renovations and will be continued this summer. . Academically Newbury fits just fine with the GNAC except for maybe suffolk and emerson. But other then that the demographics of AMC , Ida, Lasell and Newbury are nearly the same. AMC is probally worse then the other 3. I do agree with you that i think st. joe's is the favorite. but when presidents and AD's or whoever votes look at the cost of increased travel, that will be an issue. Also The GNAC is actually looking to take more than 1 school. In fact i have herd them entertaining the idea of taking them all. They aren't just going to replaces WNEC.
Newbury's club baseball has about 12 guys this year and will be full varsity next season.
Ballin: You play at Newbury, don't you!!! :o
You guys had a pretty good year. I saw the kid from Framingham in HS, very good player. Is that you?
nah.. i dont play at newbury. havent played basketball since HS.
I believe you ;D
Will Newbury apply for the NAC if they don't get into the GNAC?
no idea if they will apply to the NAC.. The travel is awful. And the NAC rejected Newbury 3 times already. There is talk of some teams making a 4th league.. who knows.
OH.. i am a GNAC alum like your screen name.
To correct a minor point, Mount Ida has had club baseball for the past 6 years, and would probably make it a varsity sport if it joins the GNAC.
That sounds like it would give them a leg up if the GNAC wants to stay in Boston. I've never seen their gym, but I heard it is pretty nice. Which is a better gym, Mount Ida or Saint Joe's? It sounds like it may come down to those two - still sad to see WNEC go though.
mt. ida wont be allowed to make their club baseball varsity due to title 9 issues.. they have to add at least 3 varsity women's sports.
they have football, men's lacrosse and men's volleyball that make their numbers heavily favored in males.
but they do have a nice gym. but st. joe's is way better.
if you were going on these things with remembering that baseball is key.
if you were going on facilties. st. joe's gets the nod
location, newbury gets the nod because ida and lasell don't have baseball. keep in mind AMC is really only 40 min away and still is closer then WNEC was.
if it comes down to academics: st. joe's will get the nod.
if they dont care about academics and location and want to keep travel down but facilities is an issue it will be anna maria.
if it comes to game management. st. joes and newbury are the best.. i been to events at AMC, Ida, and lasell.. it honesty it was awful.
i'd rate the teams in this order at this point.
st. joes of maine
newbury or anna maria
mt. ida - no baseball
lasell - no baseball
something else to think about. GNAC needs two more men's tennis teams to get an AQ in tennis (newbury is the only one that has this)
Also only needs 3 more teams to get AQ's for Men's Volleyball (newbury, ida, lasell all have)
so with that being said.. the GNAC could forget about making baseball their spring sport Team AQ and add ida, lasell and newbury and just make men's volleyball their team AQ spring sport, and not even worry about baseball.. this would allow them to add 3 boston schools and really keep travel low.
just wanted to through that whole twist in there to see what everyone's reactions is. The problem with all ths?? who knows what the GNAC ad's and presidents areactually thinking.
Sounds interesting, but your saying to forget about baseball and use mens volleyball, are u kidding me, is that even a sport, and if so who cares about mens volleyball. I am pretty sure everyone else is saying the same thing also, please never put mens volleyball and baseball in the same thought again. your not only embrassing me but your embrassing urself also for even mentioning MENS VOLLEYBALL.
everyone knows st.joes will be the one to get in. they have a awesome gym and were the nac champions in baseball. remember there are only two sports to think about basketball and baseball.
Quote from: heythere on March 23, 2006, 09:33:06 AM
everyone knows st.joes will be the one to get in. they have a awesome gym and were the nac champions in baseball.
Ahhh....someone from Saint Joe's chimes in! Good to hear from you. :D
Seriously, it will be interesting to see who gets in. Does anyone know when the vote is?
Also, is there any discussion about splitting into 2 divisions? If Saint Joe's comes in, it could be:
North
Saint Joe's
Norwich
S. Vermont
Daniel webster
Rivier
South
Johnson and Wales
Emerson
Emmanuel
Suffolk
Albertus Magnus
Then you could play your side twice, and the other once. 18 conference games is a lot, so this would cut it down, and give the opportunity for more non-conf. games. Any thoughts?
It might be smarter to go East/West with divisions.
I don't know for sure, but it seems like it would be easier for Norwich to get to Connecticut than it would be for them to get to Maine. North-South travel is a lot easier in New England unless you're using I-90.
How would you split it then?
It seems like there would be too many teams in the "east."
I'd probably just switch St Joe's and Albertus Magnus on your list, actually.
Those Vermont schools don't have it too easy to anywhere, but Albertus Magnus, being on I-91, can get to all the VT/NH schools without too much trouble. It wouldn't take them much longer than going to Boston anyway.
If the league does decide to pick up an additional two or four teams, then AMC fits nicely in a "West" division. If you're adding Boston teams, there are a few on the west side of the city that could move out there as well.
If the GNAC ends up with so many Boston teams, it makes problems for a North-South split too. It just seems more fair in terms of travel ease to do East/West.
Good points.
So the split would be:
East
Emerson
Emmanuel
Suffolk
Saint Joe's
Johnson and Wales
West
Norwich
S. Vermont
Albertus
Daniel Webster
Rivier
The only problem with that is that the west would stink!
That's not necessarily a problem. It sure helped the CCC this year.
i was just throwing MVB out there as a discussion to see what other peoples thoughts were. I doubt the GNAC would look at MVB over baseball, but a school like Emmanuel who has MVB and not baseball would probally be pushing that issue. At least I'd think they'd be doing it.
The fact really remains this.. What do the AD's and Presidents of Current GNAC teams want? They could very well want a solid all-around school like St. joe's. Or the Presidents could say, we are not going to expand the budgets to accomdate st. joe's. I am sure Simmons, Pine Manor, Emerson, Emmanuel, Suffolk would love to see another boston school added to the mix. Nothing like a 10 min road trip. I also would assume Albertus and JWU would rather only go to Boston compared to Maine.
But who really knows what the direction of this league is going. Could the GNAC just take everyone? That could very well could be a possibility.
What would the GNAC look like if they added all five teams.
Also I wouldnt brag to much about winning the NAC title in baseball. That is the worst league in the country.
There's no way the GNAC takes all 5. There are barely enough quality teams in the pool to take 1. Maybe they should take Saint Joe's and Mount Ida, and drop S. Vermont Albertus, and Daniel Webster. That would be a pretty good 8 team league.
I think St Joe's will get in now, but there is still a bigger shake-up looming. Maybe this starts it, if they can drop a few teams.
I agree, take the one solid program and see if you can drop some dead weight.
Somebody needs to get the conference shifts started.
i would have to say the nac might be bad, but its better then beging a independent. you kept mention newbury, i am not sure but i think you cant win a confernece title if ur not in a confernece which newbury isnt and still wont be after st.joes gets voted in.
Also I wouldnt brag to much about winning the NAC title in baseball. That is the worst league in the country.
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The funniest part about that last post, besides the lack of capitalization, was that he screwed up the quote feature and made it look like he was bashing his own baseball team.
You all might want to face facts, that neither the GNAC nor the NAC is scaring anyone nationally in baseball. It's more like comparing apples and other, slightly different apples.
funny that is part of the reason why the GNAC is considering going the MVB route. Currently you have Rivier who is ranked 7th in the country in MVB and Johnson & Wales has been ranked nationally in the past. If they took Newbury, they were ranked 9th last season. so if they added ida an d lasell they have 6(rivier, Southern vermont, emmanuel, newbury, lasell, ida) varsity teams, with emerson adding it when they their gym is done. aThe GNAC could get some much needed exposure nationally. The last time they got anything nationally in Baseball was when David Santos at JWU set the all -time getting hit by pitches in a career about 5 years ago.
You know, it would probably help the sport nationally anyway. There are very few, even D-I schools in New England that have varsity mens volleyball. Getting a league with competitive teams in the region may help spur other schools to pick it up.
Yeah, but it's still volleyball. As an alum, I'd rather donate to my school to help get baseball going rather than to support volleyball. It's not the same. I think AD's will look at that too.
It's also much cheaper than baseball. There's no reason why they couldn't go with VB for now and assurances that more teams will pick baseball up in the near future.
you'd be suprised how some of the AD's are really pushing the other schools in the GNAC to add men's Volleyball.. why u think SVC added it and now Emerson will add it once their gym is done. I'd rather sit in a gym and watch a 80 minute high intensity volleyball match then sit in the cold new england temperature and watch a baseball game that last 2 -2 hours any day.
yes another conference to have men's volleyball would really help the sport of volleyball thats for sure. I know the JWU and Rivier AD are really pushing for the whole Men's Volleyball AQ for the GNAC
Ok, enough about volleyball and baseball. This is a basketball board! We know one of 5 schools will get in. Are there any early predictions on who the best BASKETBALL team will be in the league next year (excluding the new TBA team.)
I saw a few this past year. I really like Norwich and Emerson. Any others?
haha but the gnac isnt only just taking 1 school probally at least 2 maybe 3 as an FYI. I think Suffolk will be the sleeper team next year. and probally emmanuel
It will be either St Joe's of Lasell if either one gets in.
No way more than 1 gets in - I'll bet you.
Emmanuel won 17 league games, so I bet they'll be good.
Only 2 first teamers return, Hammond (SVC) and Murphy (Suffolk), so it looks like who ever brings in the best class should have a shot.
Emerson really defends, so don't count them out.
What about Webster, will they win a game?
haha DWEB... if they get a 6-7 center who wants to study aviation then yes they will win a game. LOL
look out for the svc boys they are ready to play with the best
enough of SVC already. they are freaking awful
SVC did have a very talented starting 5 this year - probably as good as I saw in the league. The problem looked like they had no depth. If they add some guys, they could be dangerous. But who knows, it is SVC.....
dweb has a better shot at getting better players. Nashua is much better then Bennetigon
But webster has some admssion standards. With an enrollment of 300, anyone can get into SVC! That's why they can get players. A last chance outpost ;D
true good point. amazing how a college survives on only 300 students. they must be losing a lot of money every year. no wonder the GNAC doesnt want SVC anymore
did you guys forget that svc won the gnac three years ago, and won its first game in the ncaa's???
That was 3 years ago. A lot has changed. Did you see that their baseball team lost 29-0 this weekend? Women's basketball is bad too. Men's basketball is the only sport that they are competitive in. They probably shouldn't be in the GNAC if the league wants to upgrade.
YAH their baseball team is bad. thats why they added Men's volleyball so they can phase that team out. Once MVB takes off. At least thats what their ad hopes happens.
Quote from: dman on March 28, 2006, 02:22:03 PM
did you guys forget that svc won the gnac three years ago, and won its first game in the ncaa's???
Where's that coach and those players?
pat,
it really was a case of a guy using his d3 job as a stepping stone to something else. svc has had some really talented players in the past- guys like raphael salazar, anthony harvey, tim nicholas, etc...but when the job opened up again, after rob nugent, a former williams assistant, left, a guy named ryan marks was given the job. he was a d1 assistant at a school in chicago, and brought with him a few of his recruits, like lydale waller, who played at a junior college and another kid who was a real stud(but i can't remember his name!!). marks ended up going to a d2 school in texas that i've never heard of(it has some kind of christian name, i believe). this year's team had a few of the remaining recruits from that team- hammond, and the kid from france....waller was talented enough to go overseas, but i don't know what happened to the rest of them....
i would add that mike mcdonough, the coach at svc now, is from bennington; a good coach; and a great guy...unlike some of the transients that svc has had in the past........
What's your point? I think that you are validating what Pat said, that those guys are no longer there and the program is NOT the same. It was good for a few years, but now it stinks. ???
mcdonough may bring stability to the program that wasn't there before. it was pretty obvious that the four previous coaches were there to advance themselves and were there temporarily. i don't know much about gnac, svc, or mcdonough. he may or may not be able to recruit like d1 and d2 guys with connections. svc may never be "good" again, but it looks like at least having a local guy, with roots in the area, might help bring in "student"-athletes to the program.....
Quote from: GnacAlum55 on March 28, 2006, 03:41:56 PM
I think that you are validating what Pat said, that those guys are no longer there and the program is NOT the same.
Funny, I read it the exact same way. And that was the point I was going for, indeed.
if your definition of a good program is one that has a revolving door of coaches and brings in transfer students from junior colleges and d1 schools, then i guess svc was a pretty "good" program over the past few years, but it sounds awfully d1-like to me. their roster would remind me of '96 rowan. i have a different view of what a d3 "program" is.....so i'll leave it that svc was never any good to begin with, and i'll change my view, if mcdonough stays for more than another couple of years.......
if you think that you must be wrong when the season starts you will see a different type of southern vermont college bball team the will take on all changellengers and show that they are here to stay and there is nothing to stop them
Quote from: dman on March 28, 2006, 08:24:29 PM
if your definition of a good program is one that has a revolving door of coaches and brings in transfer students from junior colleges and d1 schools, then i guess svc was a pretty "good" program over the past few years, but it sounds awfully d1-like to me. their roster would remind me of '96 rowan. i have a different view of what a d3 "program" is.....so i'll leave it that svc was never any good to begin with, and i'll change my view, if mcdonough stays for more than another couple of years.......
Quote from: dman on March 28, 2006, 02:22:03 PM
did you guys forget that svc won the gnac three years ago, and won its first game in the ncaa's???
Which is it? Are we ignoring the Marks Madness or embracing it, depending on the day?
i'm going with mcdonough madness.... my first post was merely to inform the other folks that it really wasn't that long ago that svc had a great record...i'd like to see the current coach stay there for a while and develop the program.......
Quote from: THE BIG MAN on March 29, 2006, 12:44:50 AM
if you think that you must be wrong when the season starts you will see a different type of southern vermont college bball team the will take on all changellengers and show that they are here to stay and there is nothing to stop them
Dude, this is a seriously poor run-on sentence. Getting a quality education at SVC, eh? Another exapmle of why they don't belong in the league.
Well I must add my two cents to this post as well since THE BIG MAN seems to think the world of svc. He thinks the women are going to be good and now the men. Yes the men were good a couple of years ago but, as long as the men's coaching position is part-time they will never be that competitive again. They have a couple of standout players like Hammond but thats it. Mcdonough is a great coach but he doesnt have the time to recruit when he is only part time.
To whomever mentioned starting men's volleyball was because they wanted to drop baseball....you are wrong!!!! They started mens volleyball to get rid of mens and womens track and cross country because they couldnt field teams.
Not to mention Men's volleyball will never take off at SVC. Just like any other sport it is a rec program. They do not belong in any conference. The so called AD is dillusional if he ever thinks they will be competitive. Coaches go to SVC knowing they are not going to stay, like someone said its a stepping stone. They do not pay well and there is nothing to offer any recruits. Its really not the coaches fault if the programs suck unless unqualified people were hired, which has happened in the past. Then, when they do get qualified people they push them out because the higher ups do not want someone smarter than them. THe school isnt run correctly and the people there in certain positions are not even qualified to be in those positions but I wont get into any details. BIG MAN you really need to get a grasp on reality and start going to class because your grammar and spelling are horrific!!!!!!!!!
you can say what you want put the reason the girls at svc suck was because of the girls and the guys got a new coach and are trying to find the rythm you will see the stats next year
Again BIG MAN your typing and spelling are impressive. I never said the Coach for the SVC men wasn't good. I think he is very good but you can only coach the talent you have. As far as the women the most competitive they will ever be is last year when they won a whopping 5 games...most since they been in the NCAA and conference. Now that they not only have a new coach but lost most of their players they were rebuilding with they do not stand a chance. As far as any other sport at SVC the Women's programs have been the most successful (with the exception of men's bball under the Marks era). The women's basketball program had more wins than the men in 2004 and the women's volleyball and softball had more wins than anyone, not to mention the women's soccer team made it to playoffs for the first time in school history. So as far as the men's programs they need a little work but again I do not blame the coaches, they are doing the best with what they have and with what the school provides them.
Well it's obvious almost everyone hates SVC but as stated this wasn't the issue about 3 years ago.It is for sure Marks was able to bring in a gang of talented players from all levels, that hands down did more as far as distance in the NCAA than any team in GNAC history.As far as recruiting how hard do you think it is to get a talented player to spend 4 years of his life in a town like Nashua or Bennington(probably easier to get a Dweb Duke scrimmage)and actually Mcdonough did bring in d-2 players one in which being hammond who played in the marks era but returned. Another threat that has returned is sean keys who also played with marks also returning from a d-2 school that made the tourney.Alot of you people talk about the GNAC like its the ACC its not and far from it.With low budgets in more than half the schools/programs and highschool referees.As far as next season it will be alot of changes especially with the new teams and recruiting class. But i feel its too earlier to count any team out or give any team too much credit. Dman you obviously have been watching SVC for a while if you know about the salazaar and harvey days but it doesn't seem like you realize the impact of gaining a new coach with less experience if i do remmeber marks team won 6 or 8 games the season before the blow out recruiting year.I personaly feel next year there will be some great games between all teams and a couplle of the sleeper teams will cause many people to bite their tongues( I mean who expected emmauel to lose 1 GNAC game then lose to emerson).until next time ;)
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW CAROLINA..THIS REALLY DOES SOUND LIKE A CASE OF SOUR GRAPES...DID U LOSE YOUR JOB AT SOUTHERN VERMONT?...COS YOUR KILLING ME WITH YOUR NEGATIVITY....QUIT BROODING OVER YOUR MISHAPPENINGS AND LOOK IN THE MIRROR WHEN U FEEL LIKE BLAMING SOMEONE FOR SVC'S SO-CALLED "FLAWS IN RECRUITING AND RUNNING THEIR SYSTEM"...YOU REALLY DO SOUND LIKE AN EVICTED TENANT WITH ALL DAT LAMENTING....
NO...i AM NOT A HATER AND I really do agree with u when u say,"Its really not the coaches fault if the programs suck unless unqualified people were hired," with emphasis on "unless unqualified people were hired." ponder over this for a minute and you'll understand the basics of certain moves made by Southern Vermont with respect to its sports department......dont get me wrong...i am not applauding the works of the athletic department of this college but I am sheding light on the mere fact that certain moves they have made are steps in the right direction for example...hiring a better qualified coach for the girls basketball team. bare in mind that quick results are not always the best results but steady and permanent results are the superior of the two possible outcomes.... aka it does not matter if in your words "The women's basketball program had more wins than the men in 2004 and the women's volleyball and softball had more wins than anyone, not to mention the women's soccer team made it to playoffs for the first time in school history." the question is was this a one day wonder or was this going to be a permanent thing under the then existent coach...like any smart person who knows the little there is to know about SVC sports, the adminstration figured the answer to this question quick and made the appropriate changes.....
LAST but not LEAST..."do not sleep on neither the men nor women basketball teams in svc for the coming bball season...cos you will be disappointed if you do"
I said my piece.
Carolina you can come back again with your really bitter opinion...i await that.
It's nice that the "boyz" from Southern Vermont have discovered the site. Where were you three years ago?
Rudebuoyz.....Since you seem to know all about me. I am a student at Emmanuel if you must know. As far as the previos coach I have know idea what happened nor do I care. I am sure the new coaches at SVC are good....I am just saying that they need help if the athletic program at SVC is going to go anywhere. Not to mention the Academics. You are the one who seems the need to defend SVC. Half the athletes there would be lucky to be bench players at other schools. Oh and by the way...I would never even attempt to apply for a job in Bennington VT. The only thing it has going for itself is the scenery. Go BOSTON!!!!!!!!!
real gnac,
i haven't really watched any svc games, except the ones they've had with williams, with one exception. i travelled to bennington to watch svc play keene state in '03. it was a really rough game and the refs kind of lost control. alphonse michalski from keene got a tooth knocked out and there was a minor melee. i came away from the game impressed by the spirit of the fans and the loudness of the gym. that place really rocked. raphael salazar played in a rec league in the berkshires and i actually played against him. later, he was on the pittsfield shamrocks team in a "semi-pro" league, that has since disbanded. his coach wanted an exhibition game against some local guys. a bunch of my hoop buddies and i drove to a junior high school gym in new york state and played a game against the team. salazar was an incredible athlete. i often wonder if he ever made it to europe or the cba. anthony harvey also made a couple of cameos in a summer league i was in. he was "above the rim"......
They say there is no such thing as bad publicity...I can't believe all of the SVC Mountaineer chatter going on! These guys are getting more blogs than any team in the GNAC - and they aren't even good anymore!
Hats off to the spin doctors behind this one...Emmanuel goes 17-1 and has MAYBE 4 posts regarding their season. SVC can't get out of their own way and we find ourselves talking about the glory days of the Marxist regime.
Go ahead and dig up Sean Key (is he 30 yet?) or even Lydalle Waller, Sean Ezeill, and Jack the 7 foot wannbe point guard Wolfinger.... they couldn't win it in '04, and they won't win it in '07. True, they locked down a weak GNAC in '03 - but failed to repeat. Marks left for St. Ed's, Norwich grabbed the reigns, and Emerson rediscovered defense. The rest is history.
The thing about rising to the top - you need to climb faster than your competition. However, once you get to the top, you need to have staying power. SVC lacks staying power, and they always have.
Emerson kids stay. Norwich kids stick around. Do you think Coaches Booth, Smith, and Jackson intend to allow SVC to just pass them by?
One thing proven by Marks was that any team - in any given year - can compete for the GNAC with one , solid, "recruiting" class. Give Rivier a 6'7" center and an athletic swing man - they become contenders. Look what Magnus did in 02-03 with Blizzard, Douthwright, and Russell. Anyone can do it for a year. Great teams do it year in and year out. In Division III, THAT is coaching. Not only getting kids to come, but to actually go to class, pay their bill, and promote good citizenship.
Get them to come back, like Rob Hennigan, the Godbout kid from WNEC and Hensley from Norwich. DIII is loaded with patchwork teams and instant, EZ bake contenders. (Hell, I used to build them myself). But when you step back and look at the big picture, you finally see that the great teams do it the right way.
Norwich isn't going away. Emmanuel is going to be around for a while, because Jackson does it right. Emerson - now that they will be in their own building - they will be able to draw those Babosnian - type kids. The classy teams have made this conference better each and every year. They need no promotion. James Dean said "it's better to burn out, than fade away". Some teams do both. Enjoy the SVC chatter - I do! But let's hear about the true contenders, the big picture, and the future of the GNAC.
Any word on any new recruits. or should i say immediate impact players
GNAC conference visited newbury, mt ida and lasell today.
st. joes is later this month and anna maria will be the last to be visited
Well new news on a fishy situation going on up at SVC apparently 3 students atheletes on the mens basketball team were expelled from school after responding to a racial slurr by another student.No physical harm was caused to the student whom used the slurr but the 3 african american students were kicked out of school ...Does anybody see justice in that ..looks as if next year will be different up in vermont
Too bad about Hammond and Edmonds. They will be Baaaaaad next year!!!
Hard to comment on the situation without official reports. If they did lose three guys, that could be trouble.
Confirmation from the Bennington Newspaper:
http://www.benningtonbanner.com/search/ci_3780678
Well I'm glad they are entering an appeal process. I'm not one to condone threats, but telling someone what they said is worth fighting over might be a way to convey the serious of the issue. The true story is probably somewhere in the middle of the whole thing. Lets see how SVC's appeal process pans out. Keep us informed if the paper reports anything further.
Anyone have any early predictions for next years top contendors?
Good Lord!! If you can pick the GNAC without knowing the rosters for the upcoming year, you are not human.
I'll wait until I see who is actually suiting up in November. I know; It's no fun, but I'm not stupid to try that.
So when is the vote?
may 24th is the vote by the GNAC
gnac discussions have begun today at the Radisson INN in Warwick RI.
Quote from: d3bballinboston on May 24, 2006, 10:05:43 AM
gnac discussions have begun today at the Radisson INN in Warwick RI.
Nothing but first rate accomodations for the GNAC.
hhaha it is the hotel owned by JWU
St. Joe's of Maine, Lasell and Mt. Ida all were offered a spot in the GNAC for Fall of 2007
Good for them. Those are good choices. The GNAC should earn some respect over those; at least for basketball.
Ok, so NOW how are they going to split it up. By my count, there will be 12 teams on each side. Does this make sense?
East
Emerson
Emmanuel
Suffolk
Mt. Ida
Lasell
Johnson and Wales
West
Norwich
Southern Vermont
Daniel Webster
Rivier
Albertus Magnus
St. Joe's
It's not a true East / West, or North / South for that matter. It seems like Albertus gets screwed any way you look at it. Any suggestions?
As an alum, it's pretty cool to see that the league has gotten so big. I can't wait for 07-08!!!!!!
Don't forget about the all-female institutions on the women's side of things. Don't know how that would impact your divisions, just wanted to bring that up. I think your divisions could work, not sure what the GNAC is thinking, but time will tell.
Good point about the women. The new league would give the women 15 teams (right?). Traditionally they have played each other once, while the men have played each other twice. If anything, this helps the women if they continue to play each other once - 2 less non-conf. games to schedule. If the men played only once, it wouldn't be enough - 12 conf. games, 13 non-conf. Not sure what to make of all of this!!!!
Quote from: GnacAlum55 on June 08, 2006, 10:30:21 AM
I can't wait for 07-08!!!!!!
I think you may see the numbers dropping back down again. There are clearly some teams in the new GNAC that are put in serious difficulty in terms of travel and insitutional compatibility. We spent a long time on the NAC board (I think) going over possible restructuring scenarios. I see the GNAC getting smaller and focusing more on the Metro area; I doubt Magnus sticks around too long; they just don't fit in well in the conference.
i see SVC, Albertus, and DWEB all spearheading a new league in New England. Possible schools as well would be (mitchell, newbury, becker, regis, lesley and green mountain.)
Quote from: d3bballinboston on June 08, 2006, 01:32:43 PM
i see SVC, Albertus, and DWEB all spearheading a new league in New England. Possible schools as well would be (mitchell, newbury, becker, regis, lesley and green mountain.)
I"m sure the NCAA can't wait until the athletic prowess of this league gets an AQ.
Is this just hearsay or do you that something is brewing? More shake up in NE? Could be interesting.
Something is definately brewing, but we won't know a whole lot until this next group (whoever they may be) makes their intentions known.
There's a lot of speculation on previous pages of the NAC board; go check them out.
SVC out...effective immediately. Who called it?
This is where things begin to get interesting.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on June 19, 2006, 08:42:02 AM
SVC out...effective immediately. Who called it?
This is where things begin to get interesting.
Gotta give you a +1 there, Hoops Fan.
I went back to your most exhasustive
posting on the NAC board (http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4661.45) to figure where the Northeast is going.
You are right. This will get interesting. To achieve the AQ in all of the desired sports, I think that a conference membership of 10-12 is probably the most favorable, considering the options that exist in that region. The NAC is at 12 and is seeing fluctuations.
As you stated:
NESCAC--stable
NEWMAC--only 7 men's and 10 women's programs; could add one coed and another women's.
LEC--Public schools; stable and successful in their core sports.
MASCAC--Public schools; Massachusetts; stable; common mission and vision.
Up for grabs:
CCC
GNAC
NAC
NE New Conference?
Does male volleyball form the core for any of these conferences?
Is there any chance that a new football AQ arises from the independents?
SVC, Green Mountain, Newbury, Mitchell, Elms, Lesley, Wheelock, Becker, Daniel Webster and Anna Maria all supposdeldy have met last week in the very early discussions of a new league.
This is going to get interesting to say the least.
That's a good group and it will really (if it happens) be the catalyst for everything else. I think it will be much easier to see where the chips fall once a new conference is difinitively formed.
Is southern vermont out for this year. And if so, does that mean they are not playing the teams normally in their conference
As far as I know SVC will be independent this year, which means they'll probably end up with a good number of GNAC teams on their schedule.
any predicitons, or anyone know anything about recruits....
Any team previews to report? Teams have finally hit the practice courts...I'll try my hand at an Emerson preview by the first of the month.
I do know that the gym is open and ready to go. After 15 years of announcing for the Lions in a number of locations, we finally have a home. It should provide an excellent atmosphere for college basketball and hopefully one that opposing teams dread visiting. Cheers to the administration - they did a first - rate job.
Emerson lost two starters from last year's squad, Steve Georgoulis and Jay O'Connell. Most players are back from last year's squad: Will Dawkins (C), Ben Chase (C), Alfredo Tovar, Morales Hendricks, Anthony Riemas, Joe Boylan, and Scott McGowan....I'm not sure about others from last year's team since practice just opened.
I do know that Samuel J. Newman-Beck had knee surgery and is out for the year, so he won't be part of the rotation. The Lions also have added new players who will compete for starting positions and playing time....obviously those things will be sorted out over the next month.
Even though there are new players, the overall theme will be the same - effort, effort, effort, defense, and effort - a Coach Hank Smith staple.
Any news about any other GNAC teams?
i heard that there might be some problems with emmanuel star toliver thomas, first i heard he was out for a semester now i here the year with a torn acl.
Emmanuel should still be very strong, norwich lost hensely which will be very hard to replace and wnec lost godbout so should be a tight race this year
Early predictions.....
1. Emmanuel - Is Thomas out or not? Still cream of the crop.
2. Norwich - Heard they have a good transfer. Solid veterans.
3. Emerson - They play in the GNAC championship game every year and play hard.
4. Suffolk - Murphy is back + good recruiting class
5. WNEC - losing Godbot hurts
6. Albertus - Surprise pick. All freshmen from last year are back according to web site.
7. JWU - 3 key losses (Bannister, Moran, Fernandes)
8. Rivier - Can't seem to get over the hump
9. Daniel Webster - Good new coach. Will be MUCH better!
1. emmanuel- toliver is out atleast a 1st semester maybe even a year, but still return 4 other starters, 17-1 in gnac last year
2.norwich- lost hensley but still have two quick guards and a 6-7 transfer
3.emerson- somehow they just win, and play intense defense for 40
4.wnec- godbout does hurt but still have alot of key players returning
5.suffolk- leading scorer in the gnac is back, plus 3 returning starters
6.albertus- only lose 1 guy, there fresh were good last year
7. rivier- alot of talent maybe they will acutally win with it this year
8. jw- lost 3 key players which was almost all of there offense
9. daniel webster- 0-25 and counting
It's too far of a stretch to put JWu in 7th or 8th place. You have to believe that they anticipated losing Bannister, Moran, and Fernandes - and recruited accordingly. I'd hold off on that pick until after the first round of confernce play. EMU will be tough, and similar to the Wales teams of 02-04 - but beatable with solid defense. Emerson, with their new facility and a fantastic city to recruit to, will begin their upward climb. My thoughts are that they will be a Babson-like program before too long (that is, when Babson was good). I couldn't care less about 5 through 10, but 1-4 is more likely to be Emerson, Emmanuel, Norwich and Wales. Oh, and Rivier - they are getting over that hump. They will be in the mix, as well. Sounds crazy - but that's what predictions are all about: speculation. Let's see.
It has to be only a matter of time before emerson leaves the gnac. Academically they are so far beyond the rest of the teams in their conference. And with Lasell and Mt. Ida coming in, within the next couple of years it wouldn't be surprising to see them go. Possibly to the newmac or ccc
Quote from: creekhoops on November 02, 2006, 06:58:26 AM
It's too far of a stretch to put JWu in 7th or 8th place. You have to believe that they anticipated losing Bannister, Moran, and Fernandes - and recruited accordingly. I'd hold off on that pick until after the first round of confernce play.
i Dont think its a stretch to put jw them at the bottom, in coach benton 3 years there they have gotten worse each year from 21 to 15 and last year 12 wins. the 3 seniors last year werent even his recurits. so i would expect the same results this year with another so so freshmen class.
emerson has to be looking to leave the gnac. and remember they have 9 teams now with wnec leaving and 3 coming in next year that give them 11. so maybe emerson also leaves to give the gnac 10.
Emmanuel has its roster up. Looks as if Tolliver Thomas has not come back, and that he most likely will not be there for second semester. Everyone else returns. No knew big guys really, a couple guards that I dont know much about.
Im sure emmanuel will be good, but it seems as if in the playoffs they tend to get beat. Norwich is one tough team, Coach Booth up in Vt. always gets them to play hard and the right way. And emerson should be pretty good as always. In looking at their first semester games, they have a pretty tough schedule, so we will see.
It would make sense based on academics that Emerson would leave the GNAC, but overall our programs haven't had a lot of success which makes a move more difficult. In team sports (aside from men's hoops) Emerson hasn't won any GNAC titles.
It's true academically that Emerson doesn't match up. Based on specialized majors and admissions standards, Emerson is a NEWMAC school....now that we have improved facilities the other programs will need to establish a track record of success like EC hoops....and then we will be a fit for the NEWMAC or similar conference.
Emerson takes on Gordon tomorrow at the brand new Lions Den in pre-season scrimmage action. I hope to get there for a report.
any word on the gordon-emerson scrimmage?
I heard that Gordon won by 23 and that they played pretty sloppy basketball. I didn't see the game first hand that is just what I heard.
I believe Gordon won by around 10pts, both teams looked sloppy but have great upside. I don't think anyone wants to play these teams. Emerson had spurts of greatness, if they fix a few defensive rotations and make their offense crisp they should be "real, real" hard to stop. They have experience and some real good recruits. They should win the GNAC.
Emerson is good and they do play hard but i wouldnt give them the gnac title. norwich and emmanuel have to be the favorites.
emmanuel 17-1 in conference last year
norwich- 2 ncaa tourneys in a row
I don't see emmanuel or norwich being favored *over* Emerson.....I think it's pretty clear that those are the best 3 teams in the conference. The lions have been in the GNAC tournament finals 8 times in 11 seasons the conference has been in existence...it's far too early to say who's going to be where in february, but there's a very good track record there. Let's face it...if these 3 teams stay healthy they are probably making up 3/4 of the semis pairings. Whoever wins the reg season title and gets home court for the tourney gains a major edge....the 1 seed home advantage is always a big boost and helps the home team get over the top.
It should be a fun season. emmanuel will certainly be good again as most of there players will be back and norwich will be strong as well. each of the teams has lost an impact player (georgoulis - emerson, hensley - norwich, and thomas - emmanuel.) Whichever team can overcome key player loss will have an edge.
The questions that are hanging out there are who will be the new impact players in the conference. they will help shape the middle of the pack and challenge the top 3 teams from last season.
Emerson did have a good recruiting class to go along with all but 2 of the players that made the GNAC finals over the last 2 seasons.
does anyone have info regarding other newcomers for the other teams?
Emerson looked great today...beat up on Southern Maine by 35.
How did you do today #11. 35 pts sounds impressive, you guys should carry that into the season. good defense and playing hard is the reason emerson will always win games
Quote from: JAYHOVA on November 10, 2006, 09:55:49 PM
Emerson looked great today...beat up on Southern Maine by 35.
You can't change your e-mail address to something fake. The system is smarter than that.
35 points does sound impressive.
Lions are hitting the road to play in the NYU tip-off tourney vs. Moravian (PA) Greyhounds and the Violets will draw Alfred. Should be a good weekend...
Does anyone have anything on their team's opening weekend?
Emerson 85, Moravian 81 from the NYU tournament.
Will Dawkins scored 15 of his 21 points after intermission, including the go-ahead three-pointer with 5:30 remaining. Freshman center Bryan Rouse scored a game-high 22 points while freshman guard Jeremy Shannon scored 13 points, dished out six assists and swiped five steals for the Lions.
Emerson takes on NYU in the tourney final tomorrow at 3.
Go Lions!
I heard about Rouse during the recruiting period last year. I never knew where he went. That's a good get.
Yes, I heard a lot about Rouse as well. But, did I just read Jeremy Shannon, I believe who was on Central Catholic when they went to the Fleetcenter, and who played on BABC. That is a major plus for Emerson, rumor had it that he was a scholarship player out of highschool.
Emerson lost a tough one yesterday, 63-49 at NYU, but the Lions did force 30 Violet turnovers.
The Lions travel to NEWMAC foe Babson tomorrow night to face the Beavers. 8 days until the Emerson home opener.
Rouse and Shannon should be pretty good....certainly important recruits for Emerson.
maybe i was wrong about emmanuel, looks like they lost two this weekend and the schedule doesnt get easier with amherst, @suffolk, wesleyan, and @wnec. Looks like losing toliver really hurt.
I think it's too early for Emmanuel to panic after 2 games....they have lost some players and it will take them some time to define roles.
Once they do, I'm sure they'll start winning soon enough.
Here's a question for all GNAC fans.....Will Riv Coach Morrisette lose more games or players this year??????
Emerson hosts UMass Boston tonight - it's the very first game at Emerson's new gym.
7 PM tip at 150 Boylston (Boylston T stop on the green line) for anyone that wants to check it out.
Lions 85 UMB 62
Emerson raced out to a 17 point lead at the half and kept the Beacons at bay in the 2nd half.
Bryan Rouse scored 23 and Will Dawkins added 16 - great D by the Lions helped even their record at 2-2.
A great 1st home game at the Lions Den.
Emerson's been quite impressive in the early going. Perhaps actually having a gym will be the boost they need to succeed.
Yes they have been impressive. It might look as if the class of the GNAC may be Emerson and WNEC. WHat happened with Norwich only scoring 36 against wnec. And emmauel is not off to a great start. Anyone actually see the emerson game, just wondering how the new gym is and the atmosphere?
I haven't seen it, but a friend of mine works for the school and says it's really amazing what they were able to do with the space they had. I haven't talked to him since they started playing basketball there, but he said it was a great atmosphere for volleyball. The pictures I've seen on the Emerson website don't show much seating, but it appears designed to amplify sound really well and the stands are pretty close to the floor.
It's gotta be better than what had before, no matter what it's like.
I was at the Emerson - UMB game. The new gym is fantastic. The seats are right on top of the action and there's a skybox for VIP seating too - no seat licences though ;)
The sound system is phenomenal - we had one small speaker on the side opposite the crowd at Pine Manor and now there's 8 massive speakers overhead. We had a great crowd on Tuesday and the Lions really played well - tight D and a lot of movement and passing on offense.
Emerson is at Wheaton tonight and home on Saturday vs. Southern Vermont at 1PM at the Lions Den.
I still think it's too early to say which teams are going to be at the top and who will struggle. Personally, I'd like to see teams get into the conference schedule before making an opinion - I know that there have been many years where Emerson would struggle in non-conference play and be near the top of the conference (3-4-5) only to come on in February and make the tourney finals. We'll get more evidence as the season rolls along.
What's the name of the gym and its seating capacity?
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2006, 09:32:28 PM
What's the name of the gym and its seating capacity?
Piano Row Gymnasium. I don't know the official capacity.
How about a suffolk win over Emmanuel huh. Looks like Emmanuel is down this year. I have heard rumors that WNEC is pretty good, anyone know anything. I see they beat a 5-0 westfield team today. And Dweb beats Albertus, maybe for the first time in a while Dweb makes the playoffs huh. Emerson also crushes S. VT. They continue to seem pretty good.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on December 02, 2006, 02:06:05 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 30, 2006, 09:32:28 PM
What's the name of the gym and its seating capacity?
Piano Row Gymnasium. I don't know the official capacity.
I don't know the official capacity either but they must have had 400+ for their opener and there wasn't an empty seat in the house.
Probobly because they still beat legit teams with a line up that has four guys under 6' 2''. I cant describe it. It's awesome to watch
Over/under on how long this board stays up?
Under an hour! We can merge it into the GNAC board for further discussion by the fans of the institutional peers. ;)
How about Freshman Bryan Rouse for Emerson with 56 points, huh. Given it was against Daniel Webster, but still...EC could me a contender this year.
Rouse was 24-31 from the field, hit 8 FT's and grabbed 11 rebounds. Bryan scored 15 of Emerson's 1st 20 and had 36 at the half. It was a dominating performance - Rouse set the school and I believe the conference record for most points in a game vs. a conference opponent.
Lions face MIT on Tuesday in Cambridge to close out the semester.
Conference standings at the break. Any thoughts? I would assume Emmanuel and Norwich will creep up there, but the top 4 look pretty strong so far this year.
Western New Eng. 2 0
Suffolk 2 0
Emerson 1 0
Johnson & Wales 1 0
Daniel Webster 1 1
Norwich 1 1
Rivier 0 2
Emmanuel 0 2
Albertus Magnus 0 2
What do you mean by the "Top 4". These conference standings cant say much about the actual teams, you must look at the overall records for now and the level of competition they have faced. I would have to assume that WNEC is very good with their tough schedule they have faced. Emerson seems to be in second, then it is kind of up in the air.
My predcition
1. Wnec
2. Emerson
3. Norwich
4. Emmanuel
5. JWU
6. Rivier
7. Suffolk
8. Daniel Webster
9. Albertus
If Daniel Webster is better than anybody, the whole world will crumble. DWC stinks this year. I may actually fly in for the DWC-Albertus game just to see the worst D3 basketball game of all time.
Ok, here are my predictions....
Emerson
WNEC
Norwich
Emmanuel
Suffolk
JWU
Rivier
DWC
ALB
I think Emerson will win it. Really good frosh. Other than that, the only major difference is Suffolk. They beat Riv @ Riv this weekend, so I give them the advantage (+ they already beat Emmanuel). Other than that, it' s the same top 4 as last year. JWU was 5 last yr - 6 this year (swap with SU). Riv should be way better than DWC and ALB who will fight for the 8th spot. Should be an interesting 2nd semester. Maybe Emmanuel will rip off a bunch in a row! Also, watch out for Norwich........
I think it's still a bit early for conference predictions. Sometimes it takes teams a while to gel especially when they have lost key players. I don't think record is always an indicator of how well a team is or isn't playing. I think it's important to see the teams in action before making such a call. Also, don't forget that teams might add or lose players at the break which could have an impact either way.
The top 4 are still Norwich, Emerson, Emmanuel and WNEC - for now. The Saints haven't won a game but they have played a tough non-conference schedule and they are most likely adjusting to the loss of Thomas. Bayne's return has buoyed WNEC and Rouse/Shannon have been key additions for Emerson. Once teams rev up again after break we'll get into the conference schedule and get an idea of how teams will compete in conference play and who matches up best (or worst) with whom.
Emerson @ MIT tonight to close the semester. If the Lions win, that'll be 3 in a row going into break.
dont know how everyone keeps saying emmanuel is good, they havent won a game and there 0-2 in the gnac. seems like they have major probelms without thomas. it also seems like norwich hasnt adjusted well with losing there pg last year. and the riv always has talent and never does anything with it. so here is my predections
1. wnec- bayne looks pretty good and big wins vs mit, westfield st
2. emerson- frosh scoring 56 pts and they always play hard
3. Norwhich- there down but not out conf champs
4. suffolk- beat emmanuel and riv
5. emmanuel-
6. Riv- they have alot of talent
7. j&w-
8. dwc- they will beat alb twice
9. alb-
Caught part of the Emerson-MIT game yesterday. It was a sloppy game in my opinion, at least on emersons part. MIT seemed to have them well scouted, and emerson seemed not to respond. MIT took advantage of the size difference by posting the guards and lobbing it over, which emerson did nothing to counter (probably needed more ball pressure). The guards for emerson did not seemed disciplined on defense either, constantly getting beat, going for steals and losing their man. However, I give Emerson credit, all this bad play and they could have easily won the game. From what the record show, Emerson has lost to Babson, NYU, Wheaton and MIT. Those are all solid teams, in a good conference. If emerson wants to be in the upper echlon they must beat some of those teams.
With all this being said, I still believe Emerson will be there come February.
Where is SVC in the mix...oh yeah they were thrown out of the conference LOL. Too bad ...they would of given some teams a run.
I think that everyone is jumping too quickly to the assumption that Emmanuel is not going to be good this year. They have struggled a little bit this semester with the loss of a key player but by no means does that put them down and out. There is a lot of talent on that team and they have a great coaching staff. Norwich had more than 2 GNAC losses last season and they still pulled through and won the entire conference, who says Emmanuel can't do the same? I think that next semester is going to be a completely different story for the Saints.
Hey There hit it on the head with Riv. They historically have incredible talent but "don't know what to do with it. That clearly is a coaching issue. The Riv Assistant Coach should take over the Head Coach position and the Head Coach should.....well the head coach should just count how many winning seasons he's had and realize it's time to turn the team over to someone who knows something about coaching. Just a thought!!
When will Hank Smith run for president? Who would vote for him?
Emmanuel's losing streak is officially over! They beat DII Northwood University Florida tonight 56-54! I think that this is the official turn around for the Saints... any one else?
Can anyone explain how Emmanuel beats a pretty good NAIA team with two seven footers and then looses to a 3-8 team?
two of there big men got into foul trouble which always hurt the Saints
Quote from: All-around on December 31, 2006, 05:03:44 PM
Can anyone explain how Emmanuel beats a pretty good NAIA team with two seven footers and then looses to a 3-8 team?
"And then looses to a 3-8 team?"
If you are referring to the 8-4 Olivet Nazareth team they lost too, it may have something to do with th scholarships they can give to their players, as they are an NAIA D1 school.
Honest mistake, I am sure. Coaches all over the country were impressed still with Emmanuel's play in Florida. Whenever a team holds a team with a future Hall of Fame coach, with a team that averages almost 100 points a game to less than 60, it has to turn heads.
Watch out for Emmanuel this coming semester- the board is quick to forget the 17 game win streak the Saints had last year.
Interesting night in the GNAC.........
Emerson played without Shannon and Suffolk played without Murphy. Does anyone know what the deal is with either of them? That hurts both teams a lot if those guys are out. Shannon was pretty good from what I had seen, and Murphy is a first team all-conference kid.
Also, nice to see Norwich get revenge on SVC for an earlier loss and JWU upset Conn. College :D.
Lions beat Albertus last night 75-70....back on track.
A win, is a win. But I dont know if you could say beating Albertus by 5 is exactly back on track. What is going on with EC? I understand Shannon is out, but is it really that big of a blow?
The GNAC seems pretty up in the air this year, except for WNEC maybe. How about Riv on a two game win streak beating both of the teams in the championship from last year.
Yes, not having Shannon is a big deal for Emerson. He's one of the best guards in the league - he should be back on Monday vs. JW and that will undoubtedly help us.
Emmanuel 96-70 over Suffolk....saints look like they are warming up and Riv gets 3rd GNAC win this week.
could be riv best week in years, they must be playin real. wouldnt say emmanuel is warming up they beat suffolk without murphy.
norwich is having major probelms this year, seems like they are really missing there pg from last year
Riv wins for the 4th time this week - 64 to 60 over WNEC. I saw Riv beat Emerson in a hard fought game - Riv has the talent, looks like they are learning how to win.
Lions up 20 at J & W so they'll pick up a win as well.
Big show down on thursday. Emerson vs. Western New England
Emmanuel beat Rivier tonight 69-67! I would say that Emmanuel is definitely warming up!
They are definitely warming up, especially after being down 6 at half, and being down as much as 11 during the game.
This Saints team has shown that they can win and close out the close game, even against the toughest of opponents. The rest of the year looks to be a complete turn-around from a dismal first semester. The contest against the tough Salem State team on Thursday should show some more of what Emmanuel has to offer, seeing as how the MASCAC is a superior conference when compared to the GNAC. If the Saints can continue their impressive after Christmas swing, the rest of the conference match-ups should not be an issue for them.
Keep and eye out
I agree on some part that Emmanuel is playing better, but they have not yet closed out tough opponents. They have yet to beat WNEC, they have not played Emerson, or Norwich. Yes Rivier is a good win, but the likelihood that Riv. is in the top 5 at the end of the year is unlikely. And from what I can understand if it wasn't for Emerson's frosh. PG being out, they would have never lost to Riv, and would be undefeated.
Nothing against Emmanuel, I feel they can be very good, but tonight they will be playing a very good Salem team. I expect a 20 pt. win for Salem.
Why would you say that its unlikely that Rivier won't be in the top 5 by season's end? Riv has posted quality wins vs. WNEC and at Emerson and Norwich. At this point the only team that will challenge Riv for the 5 spot is Norwich - otherwise Riv will be 5th worse case and could challenge for 4th or better. They are clearly playing better than the last few seasons and have a chance to win every night in conference.
WNEC @ Emerson tonight at 7....should be a good one - can't wait!
Emerson 53, WNEC 51 in a real grind-it-out affair in Boston.
Bryan Rouse had 12 including a couple of key baskets late and Matt Maynard missed a 30-ft three (not a clean look either) at the buzzer which allowed the Lions to hold on for the W.
Im not sure who fixes this, but the GNAC standings are incorrect. WNEC is now 5-2 and Emerson is now 4-1.
The schools put their own games in. We kind of assume the schools themselves know what's a conference game and what isn't. All we do is pull GNAC standings from the GNAC Web site, basically.
Riv is finally playing like a team and showing the talent they have. To answer goldenpipes question as to why it is "unlikely that Riv will be will be in the top 5" is for one reason and one reason only. THEY HAVE THE SAME HEAD COACH AS ALWAYS AND HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO WIN GAMES. Kudos to the players for having a fantastic week...the credit belongs to them.
How bout D.Webb beats Suffolk. That must be pretty embarrasing.
The GNAC seems pretty up in the air this year. WNEC lost to Emerson, then Emerson loses to Norwich, Norwich hasn't beaten anyone. Emmanuel is up and down, and Riv. had a great win streak.
Teams dont seem consisten enough to predict really.
Lions top Suffolk 77-72 at Suffolk in a physical affair. Rouse scored 29 and Dawkins added 15 and 13 rebounds to pace Emerson.
Emmanuel vs Emerson at emerson. Hank Smith is a god. Come and see
Emerson 84, Emmanuel 76 - AT Emmanuel. There was a site change to a pipe burst at Piano Row, so the game was changed to the Yawkey Center today.
Bryan Rouse had 28, Alfredo Tovar 16 and 11 apiece from Dawkins and Shannon for the Lions. Great effort from Joe Boylan and Will Sagar.
Lions @ Riv Tuesday night.
I heard an unsubstantiated rumor that an unknown Rivier player hit the coach in the face and was expelled. Can anyone confirm or deny this? And if so, who was it???
Jeffrook- why an unfortunate picture? The guy is an animal (who shoots too many threes). He's probably wrestled cows in Minnesota.
No cows in Bloomington, unless they're in the Mall of America. Bloomington is a Minneapolis suburb, and a large one at that.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 30, 2007, 02:59:58 PM
No cows in Bloomington, unless they're in the Mall of America.
Don't underestimate "the Greatest Attraction in America's Heartland"
What did I miss? Who wrestled a cow???
Never underestimate the abilities of Coppenwrath!
Whats up with Emerson getting sweeped by Rivier this year. Must be dissapointing. In watching EC, they always seem to play hard, however down the stretch they sometimes do not either come up with the defensive stop they need or make a mistake in some other area. However, they work hard enough all around that they can beat anybody on any given night. For ex. they beat WNEC, and Emmanuel, but lost to Riv.
Should be some interesting weeks in the GNAC coming up.
Look it up, Ron Burgandy/Scott Mcgowan/Superman for GNAC MVP. Anyone think someone else is better? How good is Ron Burgandy????? S-U-P-A!
In response to the question about a Riv player hitting the coach in the face? I'd like to know who did it too so I can shake his hand. It was long over due. I'm not one to believe in violence but if anyone deserved to be clocked it's the Riv coach and I'm guessing all players past and present were grateful.
IF it happened.
Norwich-Emmanuel 1 point game - any details?
Emerson 75 JW 72 from Pine Manor - Emerson @ WNEC Tuesday night in springfield...should be a good one.
The Norwich-Emmanuel game game down to one shot by Emmanuel and they missed. It was a good game, and a good effort by both teams!
Where do we vote for coach of the year? Better yet, where do we vote for best coach ever, in the GNAC? Everyone knows who it is too.....Hank Smith
A huge congrats to John McMahon for breaking the Riv scoring record. Lots of hard work paid off. Great Job John. Wish I was their to see it happen.
And a huge congrats to Coach Morrisette for finding yet another way to lose a game.
My Lions lost a tough one tonight without the big man. Coach will get them back. The GNAC is up for grabs. WNEC looks like they are heading into the playoffs strong.
It looks like Riv, Norwich and Emmanuel will also be in there. Say whatever you want but Riv has been real impressive even though they lost tonight. You have to give coach Morrisete some credit they have been strong all year. 4-0 vs Emerson/Norwich 1-1 vs WNEC. He isn't my favorite coach but he is doing something right.
Emmanuel has underachieved all year and now they look like the team they were last year. Norwich is in the same boat started off slow but they are coming on.
Should be a good finish and I'm predicting right now Emerson will go into WNEC and take the GNAC title in a couple of weeks.
Saw the emmanuel game. Man, do I love their gym. Anyways, Riv. does look better this year, more under control, and taking better shots, and playing harder. It will be interesting to see how they do come playoff time. Emman. still will be ok with the amount of talent they have. It will help if Simpson isn't out too. WNEC by 22, looks like they may have it wrapped up.
With all due respect Purplepde, I am a firm believer in giving credit where credit is due but in this case there is no credit due Morrisette. The credit belongs to his Asst. Coaches and the players who have finally figured out how to play as a team in spite of Morrisette who is getting a free ride to the play-offs.
I would automatically put Hank Smith in the front running for GNAC coach of the year... not only is he a great coach, he is one of the best sideline characters in basketball
Emerson 86 Suffolk 67 from the Lions Den.
The Lions returned home to Piano Row and posted a 19 point win over the Rams. Emerson had a balanced scoring attack paced by 21 from Alfredo Tovar and 15 from Joe Boylan.
Emerson clinches 2nd place in the GNAC and will host a quarterfinal tournament game on Tuesday the 20th.
Regular season closes with Emmanuel at Piano Row on Saturday at 1PM.
Whats the projected matchups for the playoffs?
looks like
1--WNEC*
2--Emerson*
3--Rivier (assuming they beal albertus)
4--Norwich (assuming they beat suffolk)
5 & 6 --Emmanual (assuming they lose to emerson) and Johnson and wales (assuming they beat DWC and albertus) would both be 8-8 and have split this year. no clue what tiebreaker is
7--Suffolk (assuming they lose to norwich)
8--Albertus*
* = locked in
Emerson 73, Emmanuel 68 from the Lions Den in Boston.
Congratulations to Riv in beating J&W tonite in an incredible game that was won in overtime. Riv took the first half with some incredible shooting and great defense.
The second half was J&W's as they came out in the second half ready to play.
John McMahon single handedly saved the game by putting the game into overtime and then scoring at least half of the overtime points. He wasn't letting his college career end just yet. As per usual Morrisette was outcoached yet again but thanks to the Raiders and John McMahon they were not out-played. Can't wait to see them beat Suffolk on Thursday!!!
Wow Suffolk beats Emerson. Interesting year in the GNAC. Emmanuel beat NU too. Both teams from the last two years finals are gone. Should be interesting.
Another night of excitement at Riv. Congrats once again to an incredible game. Contributions were made by all. Special congrats to Chris G for some unbelievable defense and a key steal in the 2nd half which helped turn the game around. Also huge congrats to Jeff Carpenter for not only helping Riv move on to the finals with his always consistent play but for achieving his 1000 point tonite. Great timing Jeff!!! And who put on a better show than Danny Ford with some incredible dunks at just the right time and a blocked shot that definitely turned things around. And as always "The Finisher" John McMahon once again brought it home for Riv. You guys are awesome and thanks so much for giving us all an incredible night.
What would a Jamit post be without a comment on Morrisette?? Well because this nite was so special I have decided to use the old adage of "if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all". Therefore I won't say anything at all about him. (WINK)
Can't wait until Saturday to see history in the making at Riv. GOOD LUCK GUYS!!!
wow a team other than the rivier volleyball teams might make the ncaa tourney.
Emmanuel beat WNEC last night 71 - 62! This is the farthest that an Emmanuel Men's Basketball team has gone since the program began in 2001! The finals on Saturday at Riv will be a great game for sure! So much for those people who thought that Emmanuel was down and out... looks like they will be making history this season afterall. First the GNACs then NCAAs!!! ;D
Looks like Riv won the GNAC - congrats to Coach M and the Raiders. Good luck in the NCAA's.
Great work Riv in winning the GNAC Title. You guys were incredible. Seniors John McMahon and Chris Giordano went out in style by leading their team thru the play-offs and also by making the All Tourney Team. Geat work guys, we are all proud of you. The Raiders found success against all odds and all their critics have been humbled.
Morrisette didn't disappoint us either. He was outcoached yet again. Oh by the way Morrisette, Letterman called and wanted you to send him some material. He's creating a Top Ten List of "How many ways can a coach lose a game".
Lastly, on behalf of all your fans Raiders, thanks for all the incredible memories and for an incredible ride. Good Luck in the NCAA Tourney. Wow that even sounds great doesn't it??
Hey peoples, we're collecting previews for each team in the tourney on one of the multiregional boards. If I get them by Friday I may even be able to stick them in one document for people to peruse. A fun little tourney resource of sorts. Would someone here be willing to do one for Rivier? Thanks much!
http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=5147.0
Incidentally, I saw Rivier play in NY in December... as one of the few teams from the NE that I've seen, I'll be cheering you guys on in the Tourney! Good luck! :)
Sorry to hear Riv lost at Keene tonite. You guys had an incredible year and should be so proud. I know all of us are proud of you. Again, thanks for a great year and some wonderful memories.
Shame on you Morrisette for giving your Senior Captains only a few minutes of play in their last college game. But it shouldn't surprise anyone. Those seniors as well as the rest of your team carried you to the playoffs and you couldn't even show enough respect to give them the minutes they deserved. The players and the Asst Coaches deserved the GNAC Title but you without a doubt DID NOT!!!
Man -- your life must be really depressing if you have to come around and bang that drum all the time. What a sad, sad year, going 20-9. How awful for you.
Pat- do you get a little bit cranky in the early morning hours?
I won't address the comments about Coach Morrisette except to say that coaching is a hard job. Many times, the head coach isn't even responsible for making substitutions. That is why the assistant coaches are there... to assist in decision making processes during the game. I'll admit however, that I'm not in the loop in this situation.
I believe I read an article after the game where a Rivier player was quoted saying he was "starstruck" by some of the Keene players and their performance in the game. I don't feel like looking it up but I'm sure you could find that article with a little effort.
Rivier had a good season but to expect them to excel outside of the conference and especially in NCAA play might be asking too much this year.
Quote from: MeOak21 on March 05, 2007, 05:03:45 PM
Pat- do you get a little bit cranky in the early morning hours?
I just get tired of faceless people who hide behind freebie e-mail addresses grinding their axes over and over.
Ahhh, I see...
Sorry "PAT"...Didn't mean to offend or annoy you but last I heard, message boards were for opinions and comments and that's what I used my time for. Sorry my opinions don't agree with yours but that's what makes these message boards interesting...not everyone has the same opinion. Truth of the matter is that anyone who knows Riv basketball agreed and applauded me. Go figure!!! I also find it interesting that you waited until the season was over before showing your "opinions".
The minus-3 karma, on a very slow board, suggests nobody actually applauding you.
And I'm sorry -- the GNAC board isn't on my everyday beat, since it's basically home to whiners and not much else.
Sure, boards are for comments. And if you have a problem getting called on yours then you shouldn't be on one.
Not sure what your beef with my comments are "Pat". I am flattered that my opinions made you feel that you needed to become one of those that you so eloquently described as "whiners". At least my comments and opinions were directed at basketball and not at someone's postings. Not sure who made you master of the postings but your futile attempt to defend and protect Morrisette will most definitely fall on deaf ears all over Nashua and beyond. Finally, I apologize if I annoyed or offended you with my comments but again, this board is created for comments and opinions on GNAC basketball and that's exactly what I contributed. I didn't post to entertain, although I've been told by many that I did just that!
FYI - Pat IS the master of this posting board, since he does own the site. That's just like telling Robert Kraft "I don't know who made YOU owner of Gillette stadium, so I'm bringing my OWN beer inside..." - when he actually is the owner.
Just for kicks, I tried that logic this morning at McDonalds. I went in and walked back behind the counter, and started making myself a mcMuffin. The manager (I guess she was the manager because she had on a different shirt) said "excuse me, sir, but you can't be back here." I immediately pulled out my JamIt logic, and said "Hey - I don't know who put YOU in charge back here, lady - OK? So I'm gonna make by damned sandwich and you will like it!" Needless to say, nobody would tell me where to get the eggs, so that didn't work out too well.
And since there seems to be a lack of interest in creating ANOTHER site for posters of GNAC interest, I'd say Mr. Coleman pretty much has the market cornered, thus giving him the power to criticize any post he so chooses. It has been fun to read, though. It's like you pissed off the Principal or something. Now he knows your name, though. Uh ohh...
Despite all of the Morrisstte bashing over the years, the little school in Nashua finally got theirs. And, if we are willing to criticize DM, we have to be men enough to give the man credit for capturing a title. Or, at least, for putting the team together that DID capture the title. The Raiders didn't coach temselves, man. You can't have it both ways. Who won coach of the year, by the way? Was it DM? That's not an automatic award - that must be voted upon by his peers. Just curious to see how that went down. More importantly, how does the GNAC change next year? Is the conference expanding or not? Will teams stop playing Southern Vermont now that they are out? How will the new teams impact the haves and have nots of the GNAC? When will Johnson & Wales be one of the "haves" again? What the hell happened to my hair line? Are Hall & Oats really making a comeback? C'mon, people - lets start addressing these important issues! and one more thing: QTIP. (Quit taking it personally, man).
in addition so what creekhoops said (which i agree with), i have never seen pat jump on anyone for expressing an opinion, i think the reason he said something here was, JamIt and others have continually bashed the rivier coach, i don't know anything about riv hoops or the coach, but i get it, you dont' think he is a good coach. no need to post it EVERY TIME something happens with riv hoops, we got it, you don't like him. you mentioned that before, let it go.
As for creekhoops question of "how does the GNAC change next year?" one quick answer is the teams are changing Lassell, Mount Ida, and St. Joe's (maine) are in and WNEC is out (going to CCC).
First let me say that I was very entertained by creekhoops comments which is what posting boards are about. Although I'm not quite sure why the MacDonalds story was told. I suppose there should be some rules and regulations stated upfront so that people such as I would know what makes you gentlemen happy and what doesn't. It's interesting to me that no comment was made how I continuously congratulated the players with each post along with the assistant coaches (because I am aware that every team has to be coached), but instead I was reprimanded for continuously making negative comments about "DM". Opinions are opinions and those are mine. For the record I have in the past commended "DM" for one thing, he is very good at recruiting players. Unfortunately he doesn't know what to do with them once he gets them. He should stay at Riv and continue to recruit and leave the coaching up to the Assistants. And Creekhoops I appreciate your comments explaining to me who the almightly "PAT" is but frankly I don't really care. And even if I knew who he was my comments and opinions wouldn't change.
If this message board is in fact only for factual information then I do apologize for posting my opinions. Although I'm thinking Mr. Coleman's comments were not factual but his opinions so it sounds like there is a double standard going on here.
Either way, our communications have been fun and entertaining for sure. Thanks to all of you for trying to help me see the proper posting procedures. :) And Pat? Your importance as the keeper of the board is duly noted. Take care.
Jamit has indeed given props to the players. And you know what? He does care about the program up at Rivier. That's a whole lot more than most posters on this conference board can say. A lot of people didn't like Chuck Amato at NC State. We read about that all of the time down here. Eventually, the boosters got their way. But for what it's worth...look at the GNAC. Your Deans are Hank Smith, Booth up at Norwich, the guy down at Magnus, and Dave Morrissette. They've been there since day one, or at least for the longest time. Having done three years there myself with J&W, I know I came and went. Now I'm back at square one, coaching high school ball and loving every minute of it. But they are still there. They are steadfast. Granted, DM and I didn't always get along, but you know what? I realized that he is a good man. He's a good father, and a loyal husband. Sure, some players may not like him. I know many who didn't like me. But we have one thing in common now - we both won that conference, once upon a time. In the very least, the man is a winner. That can't be taken away. I still have a little piece of nylon stashed away - a piece of net to remind me of how it felt to win that conference championship. I brought it to our conference championship three weeks ago and showed my kids - my new team out here in the sticks who never won squat before. It aint a NESCAC net, or a NEWMAC net. It may only be a GNAC net. But it may as well have been an ACC net to those kids that night. I know Dave has his, too. The question is ...Who's next?
Quote from: JamIt on March 10, 2007, 07:55:21 PM
I suppose there should be some rules and regulations stated upfront so that people such as I would know what makes you gentlemen happy and what doesn't. ... And Creekhoops I appreciate your comments explaining to me who the almightly "PAT" is but frankly I don't really care. And even if I knew who he was my comments and opinions wouldn't change.
If this message board is in fact only for factual information then I do apologize for posting my opinions. Although I'm thinking Mr. Coleman's comments were not factual but his opinions so it sounds like there is a double standard going on here.
Either way, our communications have been fun and entertaining for sure. Thanks to all of you for trying to help me see the proper posting procedures. :) And Pat? Your importance as the keeper of the board is duly noted. Take care.
Gee, I would've thought you might've looked at the words under my name or at the bottom of my post, perhaps that would've let you know who I am.
You want rules? Try the Terms of Service. You know, the ones you're supposed to read when you register.
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Finally the GNAC board has come alive! As an alum, I am glad to see it! To answer a previous post, Mike Theulen from WNEC was named coach of the year. They tore through the league, so he deserved it.
Here's one bad part of GNAC expansion......an unbalanced schedule. If you go to the league site, it gives the 07-08 league schedule. All teams will play 8 teams twice, and 2 teams once. This does not make any sense. Some teams will have an easier conference schedule than others. Not fair in my book - I think that is a terrible decision by the league, or whoever makes the decision.
I think the 3 new teams will be pretty competitive and I am already looking froward to next year! :P
Well Pat, I have to admit with my head hung low that NO I did NOT read the "Terms of Agreement" when I registered for this posting board. I am guilty as charged. I have to guess that if you were to take a poll that 99% of the registered members would be guilty of not reading the terms as well. As far as my not looking below your name to see what your importance was in my life, I had no reason to look and again, nor did I nor do I care who you are or what you do. I will take accountability for not following the "terms of service" by repeating my comments about Riv's coach but that's all I will take accountability for here. I was an observer on this board for a year before I registered to post my comments and in that time I saw many postings where opionions were given, some factual, but alot were not. That's why when I registered to post I was under the assumption that it was an opinion board. That's what makes it interesting. If we wanted to see scores or standings we could read the newspaper. A message board such as this should be for opinions, but as I said I apologize if I disrespected the "terms of agreement". :)
The thing I would like to point out "Pat" is that if you were so bent on your "rule" of not bashing anyone, then I'm wondering why you have chosen to continually bash me and my comments. I am not sure that I have done anything different from what you have done. Difference being that my comments were about basketball. A truly professional "administrator" would have respectfully sent a response to me and asked that I please refrain from breaking the terms of agreement by continually bashing someone. That would have been something I could have respected.
As far as your comments Creekhoops, I sincerely appreciate your comments because they were your opinions of which I do respect. I loved your story about your "piece of net" and congrats for that accomplishment. You are obviously a well respected coach and I'm sure your players appreciate you. Ever think of replacing DM? :) :)
I do have to admit that I was confused at first over your MacDonald story but it dawned on me that your comparison of the almighty Pat and his Administrator title are similar to those of the almighty Ronald MacDonald. :)
Rest easy Pat, my work is done here (for this year). I will close by giving these last very factual opinions and pardon me if I am being "repetitive". Congrats RIV for an incredible, unforgettable year. I love you guys, especially, JOHN, CHRIS & JAMES.
And congrats to Mike Theulen for winning Coach of the Year. I guess DM's peers didn't think he had as much influence on Riv's miracle year either. I rest my case!!!!
Oh and by the way "guys"....I'm not sure whether to be flattered or insulted but I am not one of you. I'm a woman!!!! Go figure. :)
Quote from: JamIt on March 11, 2007, 07:48:23 PM
The thing I would like to point out "Pat" is that if you were so bent on your "rule" of not bashing anyone, then I'm wondering why you have chosen to continually bash me and my comments. I am not sure that I have done anything different from what you have done. Difference being that my comments were about basketball. A truly professional "administrator" would have respectfully sent a response to me and asked that I please refrain from breaking the terms of agreement by continually bashing someone. That would have been something I could have respected.
I have been on many boards where people are warned in public. Sorry you couldn't handle it.
This will be my shortest post ever and hopefully my last one for now....PAT I'm thinking YOU are the one who can't handle it and I'm also thinking you have way too much time on your hands that of all the postings you have cared so much about mine. Have a Great Day!!!
Pat, why did you give her so much leeway with this thing. It seems like she's said enough to be banned long ago.
Because he/she keeps claiming he/she is going to stop. I keep hoping he/she can manage to actually do it.
Now what fun would that be PAT if I were to just go away that easily. I honestly and sincerely am not really sure what prompted you to react like you did to my postings but I suppose it gives you job security. And I'm not sure what your comments about "he/she" were about. I suppose that makes you feel pretty darn superior huh? Again, not very professional Pat. Tsk! Tsk! I would apologize for doing so much dissing to your buddy DM but the thing is, I'm not sorry at all! Again, have a good one!!!
I went back and reviewed the initial comments. It seems like Pat was just giving you a hard time about whining when your team made the NCAA Tournament. Pat will give it to all of us when we post like that.
I'm not sure how it got that far, other than that you attacked Pat for calling you out.
It seems perfectly acceptable for the owner of the site to say you're whining too much and talking too much crap about a coach when no one else seems to want to discuss the issue.
If there were other posters on here discussing Morissette, then it might be more acceptable. There's plenty of bad coaches out there. We know how you feel about this one. That's probably enough.
Thanks Hoops Fan for your comments. Believe it or not they were taken with respect and I appreciate your taking the time to comment. From my standpoint, I would not have minded if Pat simply had informed me of the terms of service and the proper "posting rules" but instead he chose to inform me in a very unprofessional way and I responded. They were simply my thoughtsand opinions and I shared them. The truth of the matter is that I wasn't whining. I was actually thrilled this year with RIV's success in spite of their horrible head coach.
You were informed of the posting rules when you registered. If you chose to ignore them, that is not our fault.
ummm (uncomfortable dinner table silence).. Creek hoops cheerfully chimes in "hey, how about that Amherst team? "(Pat passes the carrots) Jamit just stares acorss the table, disapproving the attempt in a conversation change...Hoops Fan then speaks up and says 'enough is enough, can I eat my meal in peace?" The family takes a moment, then proceeds to finish dinner.
So - can anyone give some insight as to what the dynamics of the New GNAC means for a team like J&W? I've been out of the loop for too long to know what the new teams will be like...
Creek Hoops...your attempt at humor to lighten up the ongoing talk between myself and PAT was very successful. I laughed and enjoyed it alot so thanks. That's what this should be about...people writing what they want to write...not censorship. And again, even though you were indirectly probably taking a shot at me I appreciate your candid way with words. Take care....
Emerson snags a NESCAC recruit from Wesleyan and Bates! apparently hes a deadly shooter, a kid from deerfield. They also landed a great passing swingman. anyone have any info on this kid? What does this mean for the rest of the GNAC as well, with Dawkins, Shannon and Rouse all coming back? They were just one shooter away last year, could they be this years favorites?
congrats to Sam Presti and Emerson. Also when D.Webb leaves in a year what does that mean for the GNAC?
As we have said on the D3football boards,
D1 Hoops players want to play in the NBA.
D3 basketball players want to run the NBA.
Do we have any D3 alums who own an NBA team?
(Devean George of the Mavs is from Augsburg.)
I am watching the Sonics vs the Mavs in the developmental league television game and the camera scans to Sam Presti.
Hey, I recognize that guy! ;)
MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!!!!
Daniel Webster will win the GNAC next year!
go head and make this your sig, make a quote, or take a picture. Just know you heard it here 1st.
I am going to bet that i will see wayne washington on the dweb roster next year.
who has the best recuiting class coming in? anyone that can have a big impact as a frosh?
just curious - I see Daniel Webster has an exhibition game scheduled with the Citadel - what's the connection? - how did they get the game? Exciting opportunity for a small program from New England...
Quote from: hopefan on July 27, 2007, 08:52:35 AM
just curious - I see Daniel Webster has an exhibition game scheduled with the Citadel - what's the connection? - how did they get the game? Exciting opportunity for a small program from New England...
Where do you see that information. It's not on The Citadel's website and DWC doesn't have a new schedule up yet.
Daniel Webster is up
http://www.dwc.edu/athletics/Men's%20Basketball/mbasketball_schedule_0708.shtml
I think people are forgetting about one team who has recently joined the GNAC. This team will suprisingly be a shocker to all of you since you have not even considered them in any equation at all. This team is Saint Joseph's College of Maine. They will be young but with plenty of fire power. I believe this team has the strength to dominate not only the GNAC but also cause a number of problems for teams around the country come tournament time. They are one of the only teams that I know of that has no seniors. It will be a team led by juniors and freshmen. The team is starting to stack itself with powerful guards that can take over at any time. Two suprisingly went to the same high school. RJ Mattison (Junior) and Hi Jackson (Freshman). Both players played for Hamden High School of Hamden, CT, Mattison known for his consistent and accurate shooting at the 2 guard position should deliver many points this season. Jackson known for his unbelievable passing and court awareness should open many eyes in his opening season with the monks. Learning from current starting point guard Scott Vachon, Jackson should be able to step in and help right away. Elbie Murphey will be key for the monks with his nack for stealing the ball and scoring he will be a player to watch this upcoming season. The monks are the team to beat this season. Daniel Webster and the monks will face each other at Saint Joes December 8th. With a chip on their shoulders, lets see how Saint Joes will stand against their "new competition".
Quote from: gyao021 on August 30, 2007, 02:39:43 PM
I think people are forgetting about one team who has recently joined the GNAC. This team will suprisingly be a shocker to all of you since you have not even considered them in any equation at all. This team is Saint Joseph's College of Maine. They will be young but with plenty of fire power. I believe this team has the strength to dominate not only the GNAC but also cause a number of problems for teams around the country come tournament time. They are one of the only teams that I know of that has no seniors. It will be a team led by juniors and freshmen. The team is starting to stack itself with powerful guards that can take over at any time. Two suprisingly went to the same high school. RJ Mattison (Junior) and Hi Jackson (Freshman). Both players played for Hamden High School of Hamden, CT, Mattison known for his consistent and accurate shooting at the 2 guard position should deliver many points this season. Jackson known for his unbelievable passing and court awareness should open many eyes in his opening season with the monks. Learning from current starting point guard Scott Vachon, Jackson should be able to step in and help right away. Elbie Murphey will be key for the monks with his nack for stealing the ball and scoring he will be a player to watch this upcoming season. The monks are the team to beat this season. Daniel Webster and the monks will face each other at Saint Joes December 8th. With a chip on their shoulders, lets see how Saint Joes will stand against their "new competition".
Wow, a lot of information about St. Joe's. Not doubting that the Monks have a talented team, but do you think that maybe you could just hide your email so nobody knows that you are most likely the Hi Jackson that was referenced in the previous post, based on your email that was posted on this site. Dude, get a freakin clue. You are obviously an incoming frosh, you've got a lot to learn my friend. I'm sure your teammates and coach don't really appreciate you coming onto these posts and acting like a blowhard. When you are actually a member of the team and posting crap like this, you immediately lose credibility. I hope other teams in the league see this and make you pay for it. Wake up!!!
You might want to ask the coach before you post; a lot of them don't like players being on here.
Changing to a fake e-mail means you lose access.
I wish people would read those instructions we put out there.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 30, 2007, 08:40:04 PM
Changing to a fake e-mail means you lose access.
I wish people would read those instructions we put out there.
It's not like it takes much time to create a new fake email, CCCalum2 did it.
Just should've done it from the beginning.
DWC is also playing Dartmouth in Hanover this year. Does anyone know if they have a strong freshmen class coming in? Playing 2 D1 schools tells me they must have a couple of ringers coming in.
Playing two D-I schools tells me they must need a two paydays.
True. But why would Dartmouth want to play a D3 team that has gone 24-143 over the last 7 years?
Quote from: hoopdreams032 on September 14, 2007, 12:18:36 AM
True. But why would Dartmouth want to play a D3 team that has gone 24-143 over the last 7 years?
They had somebody back out of a game and DWC doesn't care about losing 144-23 to a bunch of walk-ons.
It's not uncommon at the Division III level for even a bad team to play a Division I opponent.
It's fun for the kids to play in a bigger building, against D-I athletes. Someone can probably come out of the night with a story to tell their kids about the night they scored 20 points against Dartmouth.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2007, 10:48:41 AM
It's not uncommon at the Division III level for even a bad team to play a Division I opponent.
It's fun for the kids to play in a bigger building, against D-I athletes. Someone can probably come out of the night with a story to tell their kids about the night they scored 20 points against Dartmouth.
Right, but we still need a reason for Dartmouth to agree to the game.
I thought you'd addressed that. I was providing an alternate explanation to your doom and gloom "doesn't care about losing to a bunch of walk-ons" scenario.
How much do you think they will get paid for games like that? ???
Is it enough to make it worth it?
It's now been more than a decade since I worked in an athletic department, but in the mid-90s, the school I worked at got $3,000 for one game and $5,000 for another.
Funded uniforms every few years and other things.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 14, 2007, 12:31:33 PM
I thought you'd addressed that.
I was anxious to see if you would have further insight as to why Dartmouth might have scheduled the game. It seems like someone could come up with a reason beyond "we had an open date," but I am not that person.
Word on the street is D-Web brought in 18 new recruits....seems as though its the same thing each year with them, as they start re-building again. I'm sure playing two D1 teams isn't the answer to their problems either!
dw is probably playing dartmouth because daniel webster graduated from dartmouth.
any idea who the top teams in the league are this year?
I was looking at UNH's schedule and saw that they play Suffolk.
http://www.unhwildcats.com/index.cfm?id=4CAF5583-AE8F-18BE-D8A98C578E288705
Is this a new trend in the GNAC?
I think it may be a new trend for UNH.
i know that suffolk and unh played each other in the 04-05 season, so it's nothing new there.
In the second game of the Vassar College Tip-Off Tournament, Emerson College's Will Dawkins (Springfield, MA/Commerce) hit a 3-point shot with one second remaining to lead the Lions past William Paterson, 74-71, nightcap of the Vassar College Men's Tip-Off Tournament.
In a wild and frenetic ending (Emerson SOP), William Paterson, which had been held scoreless for 7:55 of the second half (from 11:05 to 3:12) had tied the game at 71-71 following a jumper by guard Al-Basser Holloway (Union, NJ/Newark East Side) with five seconds to play. Dawkins took the inbound pass and made a mad dash down the right side of the floor and canned his jumper as time expired. William Paterson had taken a 69-68 lead after senior guard Joey Spiegel (Teaneck, NJ/Teaneck) went coast to coast following an Emerson missed layup to convert his own layup and a free throw to put the Pioneers ahead, 69-68. With 17 seconds to play, Emerson's sophomore center Bryan Rouse (East Greenwich, RI/Toll Gate) put Emerson in front 71-69 following a conversion of a layup and free throw.
Emerson's comeback was keyed by Rouse who scored 18 points, five coming during a critical stretch when the Lions took control of the game, erasing a 13 point halftime deficit and building a five-point lead (60-55) of their own. Both teams battled back and forth over the final five minutes.
Emerson got a team high 19 points from Tom Messinger (Florence, MA/Deerfield Academy), who shot 6 for 10 from three-point range and 16 from Dawkins. William Paterson was led by Spiegel's 20 points and 10 from Gabriel Paul (Hillside, NJ/Hillside).
Emerson 70, Vassar 67 - The Lions win the Vassar Tip-Off Tournament Championship
Emerson (2-0) was led by senior forward Ben Chase (Newburyport, MA/Newburyport) who led all scorers with a career-high 25 points on 11-of-13 shooting from the field as the Lions held off a late charge by Vassar to capture the tip-off tourney title.
Brewer guard Brian Butterworth (Hamilton, MA/Hamilton-Wenham) missed a game-tying three-pointer as time expired. The Brewers (1-1) had a chance to send the game into overtime after Emerson sophomore guard Jeremy Shannon (Lowell, MA/Canterbury School) missed the second of two free throws that could have put the Lions in front by four with 20 seconds remaining. After a Vassar timeout, the Brewers ran a play that gave Butterworth an opportunity to tie the score with two seconds remaining. However, Butterworth's attempt bounced around the rim and fell out giving the Lions' another dramatic victory. Emerson advanced to the title game on a three-pointer by senior guard Will Dawkins (Springfield, MA/Commerce) the night before.
Shannon added 16 points, seven rebounds and seven assists and Bryan Rouse added 11, four boards, and two blocks. Rouse was named to the all-tourney team. Emerson's home opener is Tuesday night, November 20 at 7 vs. NEWMAC rival Babson at the Lions Den.
Just listening to the hoopsville show for a moment and someone mentioned Emerson's "big" wkd. Looks like they could be pretty good this year.
Emmanuel suffers two losses in their own tournament-rough!
I bet Lasell will be a big contender in the GNAC this year too.
Thanks for tuning in to Hoopsville -- spread the word!
looks like emerson had a solid weekend up in new york. Any idea what's up with emmanuel being 0-2? i heard they were stacked this year.
Quote from: UnsungHero11 on November 19, 2007, 09:49:53 PM
looks like emerson had a solid weekend up in new york. Any idea what's up with emmanuel being 0-2? i heard they were stacked this year.
They lost twice, but both by margins smaller than I would have expected. The "stacked" rumors might have some measure of truth to them, at least perspectively.
Emerson 89, Babson 77 from the Lions Den in Boston.
Tom Messinger hit 8 three pointers on his way to a game-high 28 points to lead the Lions to their first win over the Beavers in school history. Emerson had four other score double figures: Bryan Rouse (15), Jeremy Shannon (15), Will Dawkins (13, 7 A) and Ben Chase (11).
The Lions opened up an eleven point lead at the half (41-28) and opened it up with a 13-2 run over a four minute span in the second half to seal the deal. Emerson led by as many as 25 (75-50) late second half.
A look ahead: Emerson plays at U-Mass Boston next Tuesday and hosts Wheaton next Thursday.
Not sure if anyone noticed that Lasell knocked off a strong WPI team last night. Everyone seems to be so hung up on Emerson, but that is a pretty impressive win for the Lasell squad last night.
Yes, that is pretty impressive. Lasell should be in the running in their new league this yr!
Lasell over WPI, eh? Not that big of a surprise but certainly a quality win for the Lasers. They've been good for about five years now....they won the NAC twice and went to the NCAA's....almost won opening round games vs. So. Vermont when they were loaded and lost by one at Union if I recall correctly...also tangled with a tough Elms squad the last few seasons....they should definitely be a GNAC contender....no surprise there.
Emerson has gotten a lot of play on ths board because they're not only a contender but they have been in the league from the start...so it makes sense that a lot of people are talking about them on this board. I post a lot of game or score info for the Lions....like tonight's 74-64 win over UMass-Boston!
The Lions are off to the best start in school history (I believe) at 4-0. Emerson hosts Wheaton on Thursday at the Lions Den.
Anyone see that Emmanuel vs Ahmerst score, 99-49. thats a bad one.
99-49? that doesn't sound good. I realize that Amherst is one of the best teams in the nation each year, but I heard that Emmanuel was supposed to have some scholarship players coming in this year, but the 50 point loss has gotta hurt. Anyways, whats happening in the rest of the league? looks like Emerson is doing well, along with some other teams... I can't wait until second semester when conference play really starts up...should be interesting.
Emerson 88-57 over Mt. Ida, setting up what should be a great game vs. MIT on Tuesday 12/11 at the Lions Den.
Just to let everyone know...Daniel Webster has a record above .500, someone please take a picture.
With an impressive 10 point win over MIT last night, I think it's time Emerson College cracks the nation's top 25. They are 7-0 with statement wins against William Patterson, Vassar, Babson, Wheaton and MIT.
This is a "no brainer".
Perhaps...
they got 21 points in the last poll (a jump from the 1 point that I gave them for a 25th-place vote the week before), which I think is respectable. Those are good wins, but none of those teams were Top 25.
Keep in mind that a GNAC team is gonna be a hard sell to the voters, because that is a league that doesn't historically do well against upper-level NE teams. Emerson may prove to be an exception to that, so I think people are taking a wait-and-see approach. But I think our voters are keeping a close eye out...
It is anything but a no-brainer. Most of those teams you spotlight wins against are decent but none are Top 25 and probably none are even Top 50.
I'm not sure Emerson's proven themselves ready for the national Top 25, but they have shown they will be a formidable force in the NE region, which is a good step for the program. If they continue to play at this level, their due will come in time.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 12, 2007, 11:49:23 AM
It is anything but a no-brainer. Most of those teams you spotlight wins against are decent but none are Top 25 and probably none are even Top 50.
I would think that going 7-0 with good (if not great) out of conference wins would be enough to break in to the Top 25...maybe I'm wrong. How many 7-0 teams are there right now???...I honestly don't know but I doubt there are many.
There is now question that the ARE at Top 25 team. Will they get VOTED into the Top25...who knows.
For the record, Babson is better than their record indicates. They gave Wash.U. a tougher test than Platteville or IWU. Granted, Mcdonald went off for 32 on 10 of 13 shooting (5 of 6 from 3) and WU played its worst game of the year, but they still hung tough and had very good guard play. Emerson beat a team by 12 which lost to Amherst by 6. True, it's more than a numbers game but I'd give them votes. Without Messinger, however, they might run into trouble.
Quote from: Peddler on December 12, 2007, 06:42:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 12, 2007, 11:49:23 AM
It is anything but a no-brainer. Most of those teams you spotlight wins against are decent but none are Top 25 and probably none are even Top 50.
I would think that going 7-0 with good (if not great) out of conference wins would be enough to break in to the Top 25...maybe I'm wrong. How many 7-0 teams are there right now???...I honestly don't know but I doubt there are many.
There is now question that the ARE at Top 25 team. Will they get VOTED into the Top25...who knows.
But this isn't standings, it's a ranking. And many teams could have gone 7-0 against that schedule.
Quote from: Marty Peretz on December 12, 2007, 07:08:41 PM
For the record, Babson is better than their record indicates. They gave Wash.U. a tougher test than Platteville or IWU. Granted, Mcdonald went off for 32 on 10 of 13 shooting (5 of 6 from 3) and WU played its worst game of the year, but they still hung tough and had very good guard play. Emerson beat a team by 12 which lost to Amherst by 6. True, it's more than a numbers game but I'd give them votes. Without Messinger, however, they might run into trouble.
Marty, your last statement may be true - they might run into trouble with Messinger but they beat Wheaton and MIT without Messinger and Jeremy Shannon only played 15 minutes apiece due to in-game injuries.
If the Lions are at full strength for the 2nd half of the season then they will have the ability to let their play do the talking in 2008.
The goal is to gain a bid to the DIII tournament, but it has been great to see Emerson win games vs. the NEWMAC - those are very good teams year in and year out and we have been so close to winning a number of those games over the last 4-5 seasons and to win these games convincingly is a great achievement to start the season.
Happy holidays everyone.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 12, 2007, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: Peddler on December 12, 2007, 06:42:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 12, 2007, 11:49:23 AM
It is anything but a no-brainer. Most of those teams you spotlight wins against are decent but none are Top 25 and probably none are even Top 50.
I would think that going 7-0 with good (if not great) out of conference wins would be enough to break in to the Top 25...maybe I'm wrong. How many 7-0 teams are there right now???...I honestly don't know but I doubt there are many.
There is now question that the ARE at Top 25 team. Will they get VOTED into the Top25...who knows.
But this isn't standings, it's a ranking. And many teams could have gone 7-0 against that schedule.
Pat, You are making it sound like they were playing a bunch of tomato cans every night. They played some good teams. Bottom line - I'd take them over a #20-25 team. If the freshman shooter is playing, I'd take them against anyone outside the top 10. Have you seen them play?
I must agree with Peddler. If you look at the records of the teams they have beaten they add up to something like 32-26 or something...probably the best out of all the top teams. A tougher schedule than alot of these teams have faced. And I believe that earlier this year someone said that EC had scrimmaged I think Brandeis and stayed with them. While there are other undefeated teams or one loss teams, I would have to say that the records of the teams they have played solidify's the opponents.
I would say that Emerson has a legit shot at not losing a game this year after getting by MIT. And yes they did scrimage at Brandeis and stayed with them, even beating them one of the halves(mini games) but then got beat by 8 in the 10 minute 3rd mini game.
Quote from: Peddler on December 12, 2007, 09:37:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 12, 2007, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: Peddler on December 12, 2007, 06:42:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 12, 2007, 11:49:23 AM
It is anything but a no-brainer. Most of those teams you spotlight wins against are decent but none are Top 25 and probably none are even Top 50.
I would think that going 7-0 with good (if not great) out of conference wins would be enough to break in to the Top 25...maybe I'm wrong. How many 7-0 teams are there right now???...I honestly don't know but I doubt there are many.
There is now question that the ARE at Top 25 team. Will they get VOTED into the Top25...who knows.
But this isn't standings, it's a ranking. And many teams could have gone 7-0 against that schedule.
Pat, You are making it sound like they were playing a bunch of tomato cans every night. They played some good teams. Bottom line - I'd take them over a #20-25 team. If the freshman shooter is playing, I'd take them against anyone outside the top 10. Have you seen them play?
Nope, there are 400 teams in Division III and that's reality.
Peddler---the likelihood that you have seen teams 20-25...ehh not so good. However i like the enthusiasm
I think you guys misinterpreted the intent of my question. I honestly wanted to know if Pat had seen them play.
Its the nature of polls that when a "new" team like Emerson comes along... it's met with skepticism. It's like joining a club. Once Emerson cracks the top 25... it's much more likely they'll make it in again in the future. Right now... they have to prove their worth and that they belong.
So it will take Emerson longer to make the top 25 than a team that's been there before. My only hope is that the guys on the team understand not to get caught up in it. The only thing they need to do is keep winning and the poll will take care of itself.
If I may do so, I'd like to chime in on the Emerson Lions and the teams they have played. Granted Babson, Umass Boston and Mt. Ida are not good teams, but the other teams they have played have been challenging. The combined record of the other 4 teams they have played are 26-7 (3 combine for 20-3 with only losses to the Lions). Does anyone question the greatness of the Patriots because 6 of their games are against the Bills, Dolphins and Jets? Furthermore, they have been winning a portion of these games without Shannon and Messanger, which makes this 7-0 even more impressive, not to mention how scary it makes them when those guys return.
Now I'm about to put myself out for critisicm here because I know it was only a scrimmage and those don't count for much, but I think it should be noted that the Lions didn't lose to Brandies (8-1, 2nd best team in the country) when they scrimmaged them @ Brandies. At least that's an indication that these Lions can play with the big dogs, and I definately think they should be in the top 25. Undefeated is undefeated, plain and simple, especially when they didn't just play duds.
Sir Charles,
I would have to disagree with your statement that Babson is not a good team. Babson's record may be 3-6 but look at their schedule -
Losses:
Trinity by 7, Conn College by 2, Brandeis by 15, Tufts by 17, Washington U by 2, and Emerson by 13. For those who were at Emerson for that game know that the Lions were ahead by 25 with 3/4 minutes to play.
Babson defeated Bates, Lasell, and Claremont....quite a tough schedule for them early on, and they should be very competitive in NEWMAC play.
Ranked or not, Emerson is very strong this year and will let their play do the talking. I'm sure if you asked Coach Smith if he rather be ranked in the Top 25 or make it to the NCAA Tournament, I think the answer is clear, one that nearly every coach would give. The publicity of potentially being ranked is certainly gratifying, but the eyes are on the prize.
goldenpipes ,
I would agree with you . Babson is a tough team . I saw them against Tufts & they quite frankly scared me . Bush is very good scored 20 against us & they are an aggressive athletic team.However they don`t have alot of size , but they have a few players who get up & their point guard slam dunked against Tufts .
They will beat alot of schools , that I can tell you .
Look my statements on Babson were purely based on their record, focussing primarily just on Emerson's strength of schedule. As for that "comeback" for Babson in the final minutes against Emerson, I assume the Lions had the huge lead and put in the 3rd string. Therefore, the final score may be what it was, but we know what it really means. I also agree with you that the major goal of the team is to win, not to get rankings. I'm sure winning the GNAC and doing some damage in the NCAA's are most important above all else. However, as Emerson hasn't been known as a sports school, the wonderful opportunity for the program with this kind of attention that is WELL DESERVED is just icing on the cake. The hard work and effort of the players, not just those of this year's team but of year's past, should be acknowledged and rewarded by seeing themselves listed as among the best.
I understand that your statements regarding Babson were based solely on their record, but I think Babson is much better than their record - and yes, Emerson was ahead by about 25, put their 3rd team in and Babson pressed and cut the lead down and that's why Emerson won by a dozen instead of 20+
I think that makes the Lions performance against Babson stand out a bit more - look how tough the Beavers played a number of high quality teams...
I'm a double Emersonian and would agree that the attention is well deserved - they have been a tough opponent for many years, especially considering they had no gym until last season. If they stay healthy, they should have a very strong second half and can hopefully get into the tournament.
not to change the subject about emerson. they are a good team. i had many great games games playing against them. i was at the daniel webster vs dartmouth game on saturday. it was not a good game to watch. daniel webster was just too small. their gaurds could not get it through their heads that they would not be able to take inside on them. they got blocked 12 times. they shot poorly. too much dribbling not enough moving the ball around. the second half was a little better but not much. anyways just thought i would write something about it. good luck to all gnac teams. miss the games
7 votes.......for emerson in the top 25?????? Are you serious? Who votes on this?? Really?? Honestly???? UMASS Boston got 8? Reallllly? Serious?????
Nah, those UMB votes are someone missing UMD on the drop-down menu. It's been fixed. Breathe deeply.
How does it work with Emerson beating MIT and then losing votes.
Got some more work to do I guess.
As a guest visiting the GNAC from the ATL and noting all the comments from previous posts it looks like Emerson has put in enough work to at least get more votes. They played Brandeis(preseason) to a virtual tie and pretty much ran over the others, it hard to see how they lost votes much less not break into the TOP 25. Looks like the committee has work to do.
Quote from: Worse than Alex Tse on December 18, 2007, 10:01:29 AM
7 votes.......for emerson in the top 25?????? Are you serious? Who votes on this?? Really?? Honestly???? UMASS Boston got 8? Reallllly? Serious?????
Dude, you seriously need to relax. 7-0 is worthy of some votes, i'll agree. I'll also agree that you shouldn't have dropped in the amount of votes that you got last week after beating MIT. Haven't you players learned to conceal your real names when you register for this site? I don't mind seeing Emerson or the GNAC get a little recognition, but I just don't want to hear the campaign from a member of the team, although it seems you have the best seat in the house.
One voter accounted for the vast majority of Emerson's points in the Week 3 poll. Apparently he looked a little more closely at Emerson and changed his mind.
Support for Emerson is actually very soft. If only a couple of people are voting for you then you will see fluctuations at the bottom end of the poll.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 18, 2007, 04:21:59 PM
One voter accounted for the vast majority of Emerson's points in the Week 3 poll. Apparently he looked a little more closely at Emerson and changed his mind.
Support for Emerson is actually very soft. If only a couple of people are voting for you then you will see fluctuations at the bottom end of the poll.
Wow...D3hoops Top 25 Poll is quickly losing credibility. Of course, the voters might have been influenced by your attempts to discredit Emerson's opponents in earlier posts.
I guess Emerson stands ZERO chance of making the top 25 now. Even if the run the table from here out, it will be against GNAC teams and will get no respect from royal voters.
New England is the toughest D3 region in the country. MIT would be one of the top two teams in just about any other conference in America outside the NESCAC and a few others.
Pat, I have been reading your website for a long time and appreciate the time you take to promote D3 athletics, but your voters got this one wrong.
Quote from: Peddler on December 18, 2007, 05:28:11 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 18, 2007, 04:21:59 PM
One voter accounted for the vast majority of Emerson's points in the Week 3 poll. Apparently he looked a little more closely at Emerson and changed his mind.
Support for Emerson is actually very soft. If only a couple of people are voting for you then you will see fluctuations at the bottom end of the poll.
Wow...D3hoops Top 25 Poll is quickly losing credibility. Of course, the voters might have been influenced by your attempts to discredit Emerson's opponents in earlier posts.
I guess Emerson stands ZERO chance of making the top 25 now. Even if the run the table from here out, it will be against GNAC teams and will get no respect from royal voters.
New England is the toughest D3 region in the country. MIT would be one of the top two teams in just about any other conference in America outside the NESCAC and a few others.
Pat, I have been reading your website for a long time and appreciate the time you take to promote D3 athletics, but your voters got this one wrong.
I highly doubt the voter in question reads the GNAC board when he's not busy coaching his team in the Midwest Region. Fairly certain there are more important things for him to do.
Early in the season voters constantly re-evaluate their ballots.
The Northeast is the largest region, but other regions are tougher. There is a lot of chaff in this region for teams to fatten up on.
Though, I guess I don't know if chaff is fattening. :)
Beware GNAC teams, if you thought Emerson already had enough motivation with their coach yelling constantly from the bench, oh boy, now they are really fueled and playing with a major chip on their shoulder. I'm sure every member of that team is heated by the recent rankings and feel like they really need to prove a point by whip lashing every team ahead till they get what they deserve (top 25 ranking). Not to sound like everyone else, but how do you drop a bunch of votes after winning more games? I feel even worst for the other GNAC teams than I feel for Miami having to take on the Pats this weekend.
Yikes. Heard that before. I'd hope other things are motivating them besides the poll...whatever works, I guess. They aren't the first school to use the poll as motivation and won't be the last.
I'm one of the Emerson voters in the Top 25. I have them 25th and have voted them in for 3 straight weeks. I was surprised by the drop too, but Pat is right. Fluctuations happen a lot at this point. Our pollsters are excellent. They're not perfect.
Let me just say this. Cracking the top 25 is tough, especially if you have never even been to the point of earning votes before. Have discussed this with voters many times. If you come from a conference with a shaky rep, NCAA and non-conference wise, it takes a little longer to earn a voter's trust. Like it or not, the GNAC is what it is. A conference in which most teams are unimpressive outside of league.
Lets be fair too. Emerson has 3 wins over teams for whom that is their only loss this season. That bodes in their favor for sure and it's part of the reason for the 25th-place vote.
But at the same time, those 3 schools (William Paterson, Vassar, Wheaton), haven't beaten anyone who has been ranked in our Top 25 all season, so you can call it a good win, but not a great win.
The MIT win is also a good win. I don't dispute that, but lets distinguish between good wins and signature wins, with a signature win being one over a team that was in the Top 25 at some point. Emerson probably needed one of those to really open some eyes.
If you look at the top 25, those teams almost all fall into category of a) Made NCAAs last yr, returned a lot of talent, off to a good start, b) have strong reputation, league has strong reputation, off to good start
Regarding a comment previously made: I guarantee you that I'm the biggest supporter of the Northeast Region in our top 25 and I'd say it's tough to call the Northeast Region the toughest in the country. Tougher than people think? Yes. Toughest? Prob not.
Last thing: There's nothing wrong with being the sleeper who sneaks up on people. Most coaches seem to prefer that actually.
Hoping to see Emerson play at some point. I've heard a lot of good things.
Great insight "Atn"
Thanks, though I feel like I grounded the conversation to a screeching halt...
I was thinking about this last night: Analogy from a D1 perspective would be something like "Gonzaga didn't become Gonzaga overnight." Took em time to get respect.
Worth noting: Emerson #13 in the Massey Ratings, D3's equivalent of the RPI, which is updated every Monday (and yes, I'll be letting them know that WNEC is no longer in GNAC)
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=1 (http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?lg=cb&sub=III&mid=1)
Thanks for that website Massey very interesting . I love seeing strength of schedule
you should post it on the Nescac site as well . Great job.
Ant,
I think your comments are on point, and thanks for your support. I think the semester break has slowed the conversation quite a bit since there won't be any games for a few weeks.
I'm all for being a sleeper, but everyone in the Northeast knows Emerson plays a very intense game, so I don't think we'll be sneaking up on anyone unless we make the tournament and play someone out of region.
I hope you get a chance to see us play and if so I'd love to hear your thoughts about our team.
Happy holidays to everyone reading and posting...can't wait for '08.
i guess with emerson at 13 in the massey ratings proves that their record is worthy and it is strong enough to get top 25 votes
What are the massey ratings and where can they be found?
They can be found at the link in atnwriter's post.
Interesting, I actually googled those ratings and the list i found had emerson in the top spot. I am curious what goes into this computer system
That's the ranking that's dumbed down by not including margin of victory.
As in, it's the style of ranking the BCS uses. :)
The more accurate one includes margin of victory, which is why atnwriter posted the link to it.
Massey's got Emerson's non-con as #100 in the country. That's not great, but it's about where Puget Sound and Elmhurst are. The only difference is that each of their schedules will get tougher with conference play, while Emerson's will get easier.
That's why we have tournaments though. I hope they, and the rest of New England, represent themselves well.
Emerson moves to 8-0 with a 67-63 victory according to the Lions website. Game details to follow.
Emerson came out with a huge victory last night against Rivier last night. Sloppy game overall by both teams relatively. Emerson was ICE cold from the free throw line, shooting a horrific 11-26, to go along with a bounty of mised layups. Rivier played a solid all around game, but could never really get into the swing of things. The sloppiness of this game was aided by the referees, who were noticeably mediocre in both directions. One ref even stopped in the middle of play to yell at a Rivier fan!
On a different note, it is impressive to see that Emerson can win when only dressing 7 players, with perhaps the best big man in the GNAC (Soph. Bryan Rouse) and best pure shooter in the GNAC (Frosh. Tom Messinger) on the injured list. Truly a remarkable effort by the 7 men left standing. If Emerson can get those two healthy later on in the season, they could make a serious run to the NCAA's and even a few rounds into the NCAA's. Thats just how good this program is, and just how talented those injured go-to-guys are.
Rivier showed alot of potential to be a dangerous team as well. Bryant Mills had some HUGE shots, showing an effortless release off the dribble, i was very impressed with his scoring ability, while i have to question his ability to run the show. He looked to be more suited for a 2 guard role rather than a lead guard. Danny Ford and Carpenter are dangerous long, lenky players with range. Carpenter only to about the elbow, but Ford has pretty good three point range as well. They seem to have the foundation in place for another decent year. I have a feeling that Rivier and Emerson will be meeting again in the future.
I can't wait to see more GNAC games this year, hopefully a few more Emerson games as well. Good luck to all the GNAC teams, represent well.
Welcome to the boards NEHoopsguru! :)
I enjoyed reading the post.
that explains a lot, i was wondering why the game was so close if Emerson truly is as good as their record states. Their road to the NCAA tournament won't be an easy one though as they are yet to play either Lasell or St. Joes who I think are clearly Emersons biggest competition within the GNAC.
I urge people not to be fooled by Lasell or St. Joseph's record.
Lasell although only 4-4 has a very impressive victory against WPI and a respectable effort falling up short 73-66 to national powerhouse Amherst. This is a talented team not to be overlooked.
St. Josephs is still yet to find their stride although they are currently riding a 3 game winning streak. According to box scores they were without their top player (Murphy) for the farmington game and he played only 10 meaningless minutes off the bench vs bowdoin before returning to regular minutes in their 3rd game.
side note: Ray Eatmon appears to be the best kept secret of the GNAC right now averaging a very impressive 14 points and 11 rebounds a game through 8 games while shooting a respectable 57% from the field.
Quote from: broke_ya_ankles on January 09, 2008, 06:43:06 PM
that explains a lot, i was wondering why the game was so close if Emerson truly is as good as their record states. Their road to the NCAA tournament won't be an easy one though as they are yet to play either Lasell or St. Joes who I think are clearly Emersons biggest competition within the GNAC.
I urge people not to be fooled by Lasell or St. Joseph's record.
Lasell although only 4-4 has a very impressive victory against WPI and a respectable effort falling up short 73-66 to national powerhouse Amherst. This is a talented team not to be overlooked.
St. Josephs is still yet to find their stride although they are currently riding a 3 game winning streak. According to box scores they were without their top player (Murphy) for the farmington game and he played only 10 meaningless minutes off the bench vs bowdoin before returning to regular minutes in their 3rd game.
side note: Ray Eatmon appears to be the best kept secret of the GNAC right now averaging a very impressive 14 points and 11 rebounds a game through 8 games while shooting a respectable 57% from the field.
I completely agree. I have seen Lasell a couple times, the Amherst game being one of them, and have been impressed with them. They have a good combination of outside shooters as well as slashers, all with size. They resemble more of a NESCAC team than a GNAC team. If anyone in the GNAC is going to beat Emerson this season, their best shot is to do it while Messinger and Rouse are still out, in the middle of a week of games. This week poses the biggest threat for Emerson, and given the circumstances, i'm actually picking LaSell to win this game. We'll see how long those 7 remaining Emerson players can last against LaSell, and i look forward to seeing it in person. I'll give my two cents recap afterwards as well. I know you'll all be waiting anxiously ;)
Emerson by four over Lasell 83-79.
Next.
Good win for Emerson.
At this point, if i'm a voter, I'm voting for Emerson. I was skeptical for a while, but with wins over MIT and Lasell, plus the 9-0 record, I think they deserve a crack at it.
dont know if i saw this correctly but i think i did....
norwich knocks off emerson 90-77
emerson was absolutely killed on the boards 47-16
wow this is gonna hurt their standing on next weeks poll...
looks like conference play is starting to pick up again as the second semester starts up. Saw Emerson's loss to Norwich. That will hurt them in the standings or polls or whatever, but they seem to be a solid team, not to mention they're missing two key players. It's still early, and it looks like Emmanuel is leading the way with a 5-0 conference record, St. Joes of Maine is looking good, as is JWU, I am excited to see how everything ends up. Also, I saw that Rivier beat Lasell today by just two points, anyone know what happened in that game? sounds like it coulda been a good one.
I think the conference will come down to a truly tight race between Emerson, Emmanuel, Lasell, St. Joe's, Johnson and Wales, and Rivier. From the remaining schedules it looks as though Emerson and Lasell have it the easiest in terms of conference play I'd expect at least 10 wins out of Lasell and likely the same from Emerson with the other 4 teams mentioned basically beating up on each other. Rivier seems to be the team flying under the radar here with a strong performance against Emerson @ Emerson and a nice win today vs Lasell. Emmanuel seems like they might be more of a pretender with their 5-0 conference start, we'll see what they are truly made of with 9 of their final 13 conference games being against the other 5 teams mentioned above.
Emerson 101, Albertus 51 from the Lions Den in Boston. I didn't get a lot of details, but Emerson shot 65% and held the Falcons to 29% shooting as the Lions rolled in Boston.
some other scores from GNAC play tonite....
Johnson & Wales 79 Mount Ida 57
Rivier 90 Daniel Webster 76
Norwich 66 Emmanuel 63
St. Joes (Maine) 93 Suffolk 73
Williams 75 Lasell 65
Looks like Lasell gave williams a game and Norwich handed Emmanuel their first conference loss other than that they look like pretty lopsided contests
Emerson 85 Endicott 53
Ben Chase continued his hot shooting (11-17 from the field) leading the Lions with 27 points. Will Dawkins scored 26 on 9-12 from the field and added 7 rebounds. Jeremy Shannon added 15 and 6 assists as the Lions led by 20 at the break and cruised tonight in Beverly.
Box Score - http://ecgulls.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2007-2008/ec13.html
other GNAC results...
Mount Ida 100 Suffolk 90
Johnson and Wales 84 Albertus Magnus 66
Rivier 72 Norwich 71
Lasell 82 St. Joes 73
Emmanuel 90 Salem State 89 2OT
looks like Emmanuel pulled off a very impressive road win at Salem tonite in double overtime, box score/recap isnt up yet but a very impressive non-conference win for Emmanuel
not sure why but checking out the last couple of box scores the teams 2nd leading scorer and leading rebounder (also 4th in the conference) Raymond Eatmon has not played in either of the past two games for Saint Joe's of Maine. depending on the reason for his absence st joes could continue to struggle as they did tonite in getting that production, particularly on the boards, from elsewhere...
saturdays scores...
Norwich 73 Albertus Magnus 63
Emmanuel 76 Johnson and Wales 69
Lasell 81 Rivier 65
St. Joseph's 103 Mount Ida 50
still waiting for a Emerson/Daniel Webster score, I'm assuming Emerson won its just a matter of by how many
Emerson 90, Daniel Webster 79 from Nashua.
Will Dawkins led the Lions with 30 on 11 of 15 from the floor, Ben Chase added 29 and Jeremy Shannon scored 17 to lead the Lions to victory.
Brian Inge scored 27 for DW on 9 of 10 shooting and Chris Hanson chipped in 12 on four 3-pointers.
The Lions led throughout and led by as many as 23 (41-18) in the first half and by 20 (75-55) in the second. Emerson played a sloppy 2nd half and the Eagles kept fighting until the buzzer.
Emmanuel holds off St. Joe's of Maine 78-71 in Boston today. Spellman had a big game for Emmanuel finishing with 21 and 15.
Emerson scores a season high 108, defeating the Suffolk Rams @ Suffolk 108-89.
Cool..so those 2 for the gnac lead on saturday, eh?
Please give us a thorough report afterwards...
Some other GNAC scores for tonite...
Lasell 84 Norwich 64
Emmanuel 80 Rivier 70
Johnson and Wales 87 Mount Ida 35
Southern Maine 71 St Joes 69
appears to be a 6 team race at this point with Emmanuel/Emerson being the favorite but Lasell seems like a scary team, one i certainly wouldn't want to face in an elimination game, they opened the season up 4-1 then dropped 6 straight and have now won 4 in a row, looking at the remainder of their schedule they could win out rather easily if they can knock off emmanuel in mid february, otherwise this team should cruise....
Final Score from the Jean Yawkey Center:
Emmanuel 76 - Emerson 75
Yet another chance to crack the rankings falls short for Emerson...
game story made it sound like a fun watch...emmanuel hit a 3 at buzzer to win...details?
Emmanuel was down 29 of the 40 minutes of the game and there were like 9 lead changes and 8 ties. Williams-Hinton hit the 3-point buzzer beater and Rookie Buchanan had 16 pts for the game. Great comeback by Emmanuel who had 12 of their 20 offensive rebounds in the last 5 minutes of the game.
looks like emmanuel is putting all the pieces together... i guess last year's runner up might have a solid chance to win it this year...don't hold your breath tho, i believe 2 years ago they were 17-1 in conference and lost in the semi's...we'll see if they can finish this year
Emmanuel is a completely different team this year than they were last year and two years ago... I wouldn't say that it was a matter of "holding your breath" but more of waiting to see Emmanuel continue playing as well as they are
"completely different"?....no, they have a lot of returners and, most importantly, the same coach. We'll see what happens come playoff time.
Yep, you're right... we'll see.
Emmanuel was handed an upset loss tonite visiting out of conference Endicott College 64-62. tough loss for a team that had been on such a roll. Spellman had a game high 22 for Emmanuel.
some other scores:
Emerson 91 Daniel Webster 61
Bates 84 St Joes 69
Johnson and Wales 70 Lasell 69
While I will not mention names for confidentiality sake, I would not be an honorable person if I did not make you all aware. After putting up 25+ points tonight, a certain Emerson player lost in an arcade basketball game to a 5'7 runner with no real basketball talent, but who set the high score.
Those arcade basketball games can be VERY addicted, and can burn a hole in your pocket. my highest score ever was 81.
Impressive I was only able to score a 72, and was very proud of this accomplishment. The hole in my pocket was not totally burnt through as I put it out before it got too bad. So much fun to be had, I wonder what one of those would cost to put in my dorm room, I bet had I done in my freshmen year I could have more than made money back by graduation.
Emmanuel beat Norwich last night 80-54... in case anyone didn't catch the score.
Emerson tops J & W in Providence 63-61 - does anyone have any details?
I am assuming, but no team in the GNAC would have chance at an at large bid if they won out would they? I see Emerson has only 3 losses is that too many? And I am assuming 6 for Emmanuel and JWU is too much
no team from the GNAC has any chance whatsoever of getting an at larage bid
Will Dawkins of Emerson getting national recognition, making team of the week.
Nice to see Will get some well deserved press...Lions win tonight at Magnus, toppping the Falcons 88-79.
Looks like Suffolk is really struggling this year. After an appearance in the semifinals last year, I expected a lot more from that team.
kinda a crazy day in the GNAC....
scores look like this:
Johnson and Wales 98 Saint Joseph's 92
Lasell 87 Albertus Magnus 76
Daniel Webster 101 Norwich 91
Emerson 83 Suffolk 66
Mount Ida 58 Rivier 55
J&W's win isnt much of a surprise, neither is Lasell's or Emersons...but Mount Ida beating Rivier?? or Daniel Webster beating Norwich?? looks like the bottom half of the GNAC standings is getting interesting...
just for the sake of chatter what are peoples thoughts for individual honors for the GNAC? all conference, POY, ROY, COY?
My guess is they look something like this:
1st Team All GNAC
Jose Guitian- Lasell
Japhet Kerr- Johnson and Wales
Rob Williams-Hinton- Emmanuel
Jaime Crawford- Lasell
Jeff Carpenter- Rivier
2nd Team All GNAC
Ben Chase- Emerson
Will Dawkins- Emerson
Mack Spellman- Emmanuel
Elbie Murphy- St. Joe's
Tirone McCray- Johnson and Wales
3rd Team All GNAC
Jerrold Williams- Norwich
Ray Eatmon- St. Joe's
Jamel Bedford- Norwich
Lance Bisson- Rivier
Dwayne Powell- Lassell
POY- Jose Guitian- Lasell
COY- Jamahl Jackson- Emmanuel
ROY- Chris Hanson- Daniel Webster
Wow thats an embarrasing result for Riv. Anyone have any more info on exactly what went down in that game? The Daniel Webster game doesn't suprise me as much, they do have some talent, theyre just inexperianced. They are also streaky shooters, like Hanson and Inge, so if they got hot together its pretty tough to beat them. I'm a little suprised at how close the Emerson/Suffolk game was as well. Anyone know if emerson has Rouse and Messinger back? if those two are still out come gnac tournament time, the field is wide open for anyone.
Rouse has played the last couple of games
winners of 10 of their last 11 I think Lasell is making a push for the top seed in the GNAC. Guitian has been an absolute beast and theres really no reason he shouldnt get POY. 9 out of those 10 wins have been by 10+ points including 5 absolute blowouts (20+). The only loss was a 1 point loss to a very good Johnson and Wales team.
Tonite they beat conference leader Emmanuel by 14...84-70, @ Emmanuel
this is a team with enough talent to not only make the NCAA's but to represent the GNAC rather nicely...
Ankles, Lasell won't make the #1 seed unless they finish ahead of Emerson outright - the Lions won in Newton 83-79 without Rouse and Messinger.
I'd love to see a rematch with R & M playing for Emerson - I haven't seen Lasell this year but have heard great things about Guitan and Crawford.
Lions won at Mt Ida 88-70 to go to 19-3.
yea it'll definitely be difficult for Lasell to take #1 going into conf tourney but it is possble, its a 4 team race for top seed really with it right now being...
Emmanuel 13-2
Emerson 12-3
Johnson & Wales 12-4 (assuming they beat Albertus Magnus tonite)
Lasell 11-4
-its all but a guarantee Lasell finishes 14-4 (Suffolk, Daniel Webster, Mt. Ida)
-Emmanuel has a tough road with all their games being on the road against Emerson, -Johnson and Wales and St. Joes. thats 3 of the top 5 teams in the conference.
-Emerson is @Rivier (no cakewalk but they should win), home vs Emmanuel, and home versus Norwich, no game is a guarantee but all 3 are winnable
-Johnson and Wales- assuming they beat Albertus Magnus tonite they will be 12-4 with just 2 home games, 1 vs Emmanuel and 1 vs Rivier. again 2 very difficult games.
if everyone else beats up on each other in the final 3 games of the season Lasells got a shot as they wont lose from here on out, they only hold the tie breaker with Emmanuel, J&W and Emerson both have the tie breaker against Lasell.
its really emmanuels to lose but lose it they can with the toughest of the remaining schedules, if they can go 2-1 though the conference is theirs
absolutely....I didn't say it was impossible, Lasell has to win outright since they played emerson once and lost.
if things fall right they can get #1, but they can certainly can win the tourney even if they're not the #1 seed.
I think the conference has more depth than in past years - any of the top 4 teams could win through to get to get through.
Out of the 4 teams though, only Emerson has a chance to get an at-large bid if they don't win the tournament but make the finals based on their non-conference success...lasell had some close losses against some strong teams but emerson beat three NEWMAC's by 10+ along with William Patterson and Vassar.
if Emerson wins out regular season wise and makes it to the conference final and loses and winds up around 24-4 it will certainly be hard for the committee to ignore a team with a winning percentage of .857 although as discussed on a few other boards the Northeast region is looking at probably 3 at large bids and unfortunately more of Emersons at large faith would likely be more in the hands of Amherst and Umass-Dartmouth winning their conference tournaments.
Even one loss before the conference final I think eliminates Emersons chances at all of an at large bid just because their out of conference wins arent really that impressive. William Patterson was a big win, Vassar was an ok win. Their 3 wins vs. NEWMAC teams arent that great, the only one with at least a .500 record in the NEWMAC is Babson at 4-4 but they are 7-13 overall, Wheaton 12-8, MIT 12-10. Sure they are nice wins but I just dont think they are at the caliber of wins needed for an At-Large bid playing in one of the 10 worst conferences according to the massey ratingss
I agree that Emerson would have to make the finals and other teams that are rated higher would have to win through to help Emerson's at large chances.
Can't disagree with that analysis ankles....I think it'll be really good tourney, especially if the top 4 teams reach the semi round of the GNAC's.
definitely will be a great tournament, the GNAC has got to be one of the most competitive conferences in New England in terms of inner conference games. the top 4 have all proven they can beat each other, and St. Joes isnt really that far behind at 9-5. They appear to be at full strength for the first time in awhile, Murphy had an injury early on that made him miss the opener and still wasnt 100% when he began playing. Eatmon missed 4 games in the middle of conference season where the monks went 2-2 with the 2 losses coming to Emmanuel by 7 and Lasell by 9, with Eatmon in the lineup it could have been a different story. Also St. Joes has a kid by the name of Alonso Davis who is listed at 6'7 and he's extremely athletic, not one of those wasted height guys. his stats are extremely impressive when he gets to play more than just 2 or 3 minutes. In 8 games where he has been given significant minutes (meaning at least 8 minutes) he has averaged 11.3 points and 7.8 rebounds in just 14.8 minutes. why he isnt used more is beyond me, the only thing I can think of is they are saving him as a weapon come playoff time? hes been the monks most efficient player this year as evidence by his numbers in limited minutes.
I think lasell has the most talent. They should do very real in the gnac tourney. Also i dont think any gnac team will get a at- large bid. the only team that has a chance is emerson and they would have to make it to the finals and they still might not get it
Personally, I think anything less than an undefeated conference season for Lasell is a disappointment. Talent wise, they are a step or two ahead of everyone else in the league, but for some reason (my guess is coaching) they don't play as hard as they should. It looks like they're back on track, but I wouldn't be surprised if they lost early in the playoffs.
I seriously doubt that GNAC will have anymore then the champion in the tournament. A Pool C really would be a long shot based on the other teams that are truly in contention for one. It has been said, that at most 3 for the NE. I would think that the runner up from the NESCAC will get one and possibly another assuming Amherst wins it as of the regional standings. Also, as it sits right now, UMass Darmouth is almost assured a Pool B if they don't win the conference championship. The other team that is really on the bubble according to the poll is Brandeis. They are in a heep of trouble if they lose two more games which very well could happen based on their schedule. Still a couple weeks of games left and that will shake out things but I would think that the GNAC will only get one in the tournament.
Quote from: UnsungHero11 on February 14, 2008, 01:02:13 PM
Personally, I think anything less than an undefeated conference season for Lasell is a disappointment. Talent wise, they are a step or two ahead of everyone else in the league, but for some reason (my guess is coaching) they don't play as hard as they should. It looks like they're back on track, but I wouldn't be surprised if they lost early in the playoffs.
buddy, I don't think that you have all your facts straight. you are challenging them about playing hard and knocking the coach, but if you had all the facts, maybe your tune would change. They were 4-1 before arguably their best player went down with and injury and they proceeded to drop some tough decisions in his absence. Lost a tough won to Babson by 2, another tough one to #1 Amherst by 7. They have dropped a few league games. Twice to JWU, and once each to Emerson and Rivier. No slouches their either. Their non-league losses are Keene State, Babson, Amherst and Williams. All quality teams. I know Babson's record is not great, but they are a solid team. It is very hard to run the table in any league, never mind in a league with a lot of parity. 18 league games is very tough to go undefeated. I think they've responded very well to a tough stretch in the middle of their schedule and are now playing very well at the right time. To say that it's a disappointment that they didn't run the table in the league is a bit of a stretch. Again, make sure you know the facts before opening your mouth, or in this case, typing on your keyboard.
Ok, back again for the first time in a year. As the GNACs approach, lets discuss the best GNAC teams of all time. Is it the 02-03 SVC team? How about some of the Endicott teams early on, or perhaps an Emerson Squad late 90s? WNEC squads? Suffolk 01 with Luisi? How about JWU 03-04 that beat SVC twice in one week to win it all? How do these teams stack up against what is out there now?
Having played against the Emerson teams of the last 90's i would say they were some of the best. the had great size, speed and shooters. riv had some strong teams also. the gnac was a tough conference back in the late 90's but emerson definately stood out as the team to beat every year.
Quote from: CCCalum2 on February 14, 2008, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: UnsungHero11 on February 14, 2008, 01:02:13 PM
Personally, I think anything less than an undefeated conference season for Lasell is a disappointment. Talent wise, they are a step or two ahead of everyone else in the league, but for some reason (my guess is coaching) they don't play as hard as they should. It looks like they're back on track, but I wouldn't be surprised if they lost early in the playoffs.
buddy, I don't think that you have all your facts straight. you are challenging them about playing hard and knocking the coach, but if you had all the facts, maybe your tune would change. They were 4-1 before arguably their best player went down with and injury and they proceeded to drop some tough decisions in his absence. Lost a tough won to Babson by 2, another tough one to #1 Amherst by 7. They have dropped a few league games. Twice to JWU, and once each to Emerson and Rivier. No slouches their either. Their non-league losses are Keene State, Babson, Amherst and Williams. All quality teams. I know Babson's record is not great, but they are a solid team. It is very hard to run the table in any league, never mind in a league with a lot of parity. 18 league games is very tough to go undefeated. I think they've responded very well to a tough stretch in the middle of their schedule and are now playing very well at the right time. To say that it's a disappointment that they didn't run the table in the league is a bit of a stretch. Again, make sure you know the facts before opening your mouth, or in this case, typing on your keyboard.
Quote from: CCCalum2 on February 14, 2008, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: UnsungHero11 on February 14, 2008, 01:02:13 PM
Personally, I think anything less than an undefeated conference season for Lasell is a disappointment. Talent wise, they are a step or two ahead of everyone else in the league, but for some reason (my guess is coaching) they don't play as hard as they should. It looks like they're back on track, but I wouldn't be surprised if they lost early in the playoffs.
buddy, I don't think that you have all your facts straight. you are challenging them about playing hard and knocking the coach, but if you had all the facts, maybe your tune would change. They were 4-1 before arguably their best player went down with and injury and they proceeded to drop some tough decisions in his absence. Lost a tough won to Babson by 2, another tough one to #1 Amherst by 7. They have dropped a few league games. Twice to JWU, and once each to Emerson and Rivier. No slouches their either. Their non-league losses are Keene State, Babson, Amherst and Williams. All quality teams. I know Babson's record is not great, but they are a solid team. It is very hard to run the table in any league, never mind in a league with a lot of parity. 18 league games is very tough to go undefeated. I think they've responded very well to a tough stretch in the middle of their schedule and are now playing very well at the right time. To say that it's a disappointment that they didn't run the table in the league is a bit of a stretch. Again, make sure you know the facts before opening your mouth, or in this case, typing on your keyboard.
Sounds good, I guess, if you want to make excuses. But the FACT of the matter is, they have the tallest player in the league, by about a foot, who is also incredibly athletic, can shoot from the outside and absolutely dominates at this level (not to mention, according to this board, he is also player of the year) their entire starting five is more talented and more athletic than any other team's in the league. If their best player went down with an injury that should only give them more reason to win, not an excuse to lose. To be honest, it doesn't matter what you say...I totally agree that their non conference schedule is tough, thats why i said they should have gone undefeated IN THE CONFERENCE.If they just stayed focused on winning instead of talking trash, I'm sure they would have done much better this season....and I do know one fact. Discipline is instilled by a coach, not by a best player (who happened to go down with an injury)
Its defiantly a disappointing year for lasell, this is the year they needed to make it to the ncaa. There losing Crawford the best player in the league and Powell the best pg in the league.
I have to disagree with unsung on a number of points presented. I will agree that Guitian is a special player and will be GNAC 1st team and possibly POY. I haven't seen him play but I have heard a lot of great things about him. However, unless his height is not listed properly on the Lasell website, at 6'9" he is not a foot taller than everyone else in the league. Since Levi Smith of Emmanuel is 6'7" I'd have to say that's one of the most ridiculous statements I've seen in a long time unless two inches is now equivalent to one foot.
Also, to say that Lasell should run the table in the conference....also a baseless statement. The league is solid this year w/Emmanuel, Wales, and Emerson playing very well and Rivier and St. Joe's have solid squads as well. In my opinion, if you state that one team should run the table they should be light years ahead of the other teams they play. No knock on Lasell, they are very good but certainly there is not that large of a divide between them and 3-4 teams in the league. How you can you that they should have run the table? Emerson beat Lasell in Newton without Rouse and Messinger - if they were that much better they should have rolled by a ton - but they didn't because both of those teams are very talented and will play close games. As for the best starting 5, I'd say that you'd get varying opinions about which team has the five in the GNAC because of the talent level and competition.
It's not as clear cut as you think and I think the GNAC tournament games will bear that out - I think we're in for a great week of well played, tight games that go down to the end.
Quote from: UnsungHero11 on February 15, 2008, 01:17:23 PM
Quote from: CCCalum2 on February 14, 2008, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: UnsungHero11 on February 14, 2008, 01:02:13 PM
Personally, I think anything less than an undefeated conference season for Lasell is a disappointment. Talent wise, they are a step or two ahead of everyone else in the league, but for some reason (my guess is coaching) they don't play as hard as they should. It looks like they're back on track, but I wouldn't be surprised if they lost early in the playoffs.
buddy, I don't think that you have all your facts straight. you are challenging them about playing hard and knocking the coach, but if you had all the facts, maybe your tune would change. They were 4-1 before arguably their best player went down with and injury and they proceeded to drop some tough decisions in his absence. Lost a tough won to Babson by 2, another tough one to #1 Amherst by 7. They have dropped a few league games. Twice to JWU, and once each to Emerson and Rivier. No slouches their either. Their non-league losses are Keene State, Babson, Amherst and Williams. All quality teams. I know Babson's record is not great, but they are a solid team. It is very hard to run the table in any league, never mind in a league with a lot of parity. 18 league games is very tough to go undefeated. I think they've responded very well to a tough stretch in the middle of their schedule and are now playing very well at the right time. To say that it's a disappointment that they didn't run the table in the league is a bit of a stretch. Again, make sure you know the facts before opening your mouth, or in this case, typing on your keyboard.
Sounds good, I guess, if you want to make excuses. But the FACT of the matter is, they have the tallest player in the league, by about a foot, who is also incredibly athletic, can shoot from the outside and absolutely dominates at this level (not to mention, according to this board, he is also player of the year) their entire starting five is more talented and more athletic than any other team's in the league. If their best player went down with an injury that should only give them more reason to win, not an excuse to lose. To be honest, it doesn't matter what you say...I totally agree that their non conference schedule is tough, thats why i said they should have gone undefeated IN THE CONFERENCE.If they just stayed focused on winning instead of talking trash, I'm sure they would have done much better this season....and I do know one fact. Discipline is instilled by a coach, not by a best player (who happened to go down with an injury)
Looks like with Emmanuel and Emersons win that Tuesday may bring a huge game!
I also find it odd that Emerson now with 20 wins and only 3 losses gets no love regionally let alone nationally.
Great game between Emerson and Riv at the Muldoon today.
Rivier led 48-34 with approx. 15 to play, only to see the Lions run off 16 straight points keyed by Jeremy Shannon's ability to get to the hoop.
Riv bounced back and led 65-60 with a minute to play, but Ben Chase hit a big 3 and Shannon got to the rack for a finger roll layup with 3 seconds to play in regulation.
OT went back and forth, Lions led by two - Riv had the last possession and Jeff Carpenter was fouled with no time on the clock. Carp missed the first attempt and the Lions earned a hard fought 20th win of the season.
Carp had 17 and 10 rebounds for Riv, Lions were led by Ben Chase with 17 and Jeremy Shannon with 16. Free throws were a big factor - Emerson made 22 of 32 and Riv only 7 of 19.
1st place and most likely the regular season championship on line Tuesday when Emerson and Emmanuel meet at the Lions Den- game time 7 PM.
As far as the Emerson/no love comment, I think that is a reflection on the league as a whole....in 13 seasons the GNAC never gets props, even though it continues to get better every year. I think the non-conference games tell a different story - Emerson beat three NEWMAC teams and Lasell played a number of close games vs. top schools in the NE...and Rivier took Wheaton (IL) to OT.
Over the next 2-3 years the GNAC and its teams will get better PR if they can make some noise in the NCAA tournament....success has been mixed, but we haven't had a sweet 16 team yet - one or two appearances in the 16 and others will be turned on to what we already know to be true.
Emerson 82-79 over Emmanuel - Lions tie for 1st in the GNAC and hold the tiebreak for the #1 seed in the GNAC tournament with their win over Lasell in early January.
I was wondering for us people over here in LA if someone could give us an in depth recap of the Emerson vs. Emmanuel game, we heard it was crazy
the GNAC is still a crazy mess in terms of figuring out seedings some scores from tonite...
St. Joe's 79 Mount Ida 70
Lasell 78 Daniel Webster 60
Emerson 82 Emmanuel 79
Johnson & Wales 90 Rivier 82
Suffolk 93 Norwich 85
pretty strait forward once again for the most part, Emerson/Emmanuel was a toss up, not surprised Emerson won esp if they are at full strength now.
HOW DID SUFFOLK BEAT NORWICH??? suffolk was 2-21 coming into the game and norwich has beatin Emerson, Emmanuel, Johnson & Wales, St. Joes and they LOSE to Suffolk and Daniel Webster?? talk about up and down my gosh...
I watched Suffolk get absolutely blown out by Brandeis earlier this season, however I also saw a few other things. They has some size both height and physicalness. Also they had a couple decent shooters. If all of that comes together on a night then there is a chance for a win, especially in a conference like the GNAC which no offense to anyone is not exactly the toughest of conferences.
I think you could say that holds true for the conference as a whole - the teams in the lower half of the conference are not strong and are certainly not as strong as the bottom teams in the elite conferences of New England - however, I think there are teams in the GNAC as well as the NAC or CCC that can hang with the NESCAC's etc.
Look at the bottom two team in the NE Poster's poll - Emerson and Elms for proof - Emerson beat three NEWMAC's by 10+ and Elms lost to Amherst by 6 and Brandeis by 1 in OT.
Suffolk's win isn't that surprising - an 11 beating the 7th place team in any conference is not that unusual, especially when the underdog shoots 13-25 from 3-pt land. I think that can happen in any conference - look at the number of times it's happened in conference tournaments over the years in D-1, 2, or 3. It's not as if Suffolk beat one of the top 3 teams in the GNAC.
Quote from: ILive4This on February 20, 2008, 12:04:56 AM
I watched Suffolk get absolutely blown out by Brandeis earlier this season, however I also saw a few other things. They has some size both height and physicalness. Also they had a couple decent shooters. If all of that comes together on a night then there is a chance for a win, especially in a conference like the GNAC which no offense to anyone is not exactly the toughest of conferences.
Norwich is a tough place to play anytime you win there its a good win, they beat Emerson and Emmanuel up there this year.
Miracle Overtime Buzzer-Beater Sends Newbury Past Eagles
Nashua – Two seconds can seem like a lifetime. Unfortunately for the Eagles men's basketball team, they found that out the hardest way imaginable Thursday night.
Two seconds away from forcing a second overtime after Eagle freshman Chris Hanson (Salem, Mass.) sank two pressure-packed free throws to tie the game at 97, Newbury guard Steve Morris (Somerville, Mass.) answered with a 75-foot miracle that hit nothing but net as the buzzer sounded giving the visiting Nighthawks a stunning 100-97 victory in a wild matchup of future New England Collegiate rivals at a raucous Vagge Gymnasium.
Morris, who had initially forced overtime knocking down a three pointer with 21 seconds to play in regulation, took the inbounds pass from Javon Mathis (Plainville, Conn.) and heaved the ball from the far right corner knocking down the longest shot recorded in Vagge Gymnasium history in a regular season game.
The win was the eighth straight for the Nighthawks (17-7), while the Eagles (7-17) dropped their fourth straight.
Kevin Cleveland (Lynn, Mass.) led all scorers for Newbury pouring in 28 points, going 13 of 16 from the field and added 12 rebounds. Arch Mitchell (Framingham, Mass.) knocked down 21, while Mathis chipped in with 18. Morris finished with 14.
Hanson led Daniel Webster with 19 points including five three-pointers, while Adam Landry (Vernon, Conn.) knocked down five more from outside on the way to 18 points. Tim Jackson (West Henrietta, N.Y.) added 11 while Steve Savage (Salem, N.H.) chipped in with 10.
Senior Eagle captain Ryan Middlemiss (Methuen, Mass.), playing in his final home game and honored in a pregame ceremony, dished out a game and career best nine assists and added eight rebounds and five points.
Newbury led by six (44-39) at the half and by as many as 13 in the second before a pair of wild swings led to overtime.
Trailing by 11 at 74-63 with 9:09 to go in regulation, the Eagles mounted a furious comeback with an 18-5 run consuming 4:24 to take the lead. Hanson knocked down a three with 6:34 left for a 77-74 Newbury lead, followed with another with 5:11 to go to cut it to one, and Landry added another for an 81-79 lead with 4:45 left.
After building the lead to 88-81 with 2:18 to after a Hanson jumper, Newbury responded with a wild finish to force overtime. After Cleveland buried two free throws, he followed with a lay up with 1:21 left setting up Morris's first heroics.
Newbury opened the extra session with the first six points thanks to a dunk and layup from Cleveland.
Trailing by five (97-92) with 51 seconds left, Jackson knocked down a three with 40 seconds to go and Middlemiss followed with a steal of Morris with 16 seconds left.
Hanson was then fouled outside the arc and sank both freebies with 2.1 seconds to go, setting up the Morris miracle.
The Eagles, who still own the eighth and final playoff spot for the upcoming GNAC tournament, close their regular season Saturday at Rivier beginning at 1:00 p.m. The Eagles hold a one-game lead over Mount Ida for the final spot. Mount Ida travels to Lasell for a 1:00 p.m. matchup. The Eagles can clinch a tournament spot with a victory or a Mount Ida loss.
Newbury travels to Green Mountain Saturday for the four-team Association of Division III Independents Northeast championships. The Nighthawks face future NECC rival Southern Vermont at 5:30 p.m.
Lions roll past Norwich today at the Lions Den 74-48. Emerson grabs the GNAC regular season title and the #1 seed in the conference tournament starting Tuesday.
Lions led 40-21 at the half and turned in a complete fahty minute effort as they held Norwich to a season low 48 points, which was the Lions lowest allowed total as well as the Cadets lowest offensive output of the season.
Once today's action is over the conference tournament seeds/pairings will be officially announced and we'll have Tuesday's quarterfinal match-ups.
With an Emmanuel loss--which is somewhat surprising Lasell gets 2nd in the league...I guess due to a tie-breaker.
Looks like Emmanuel may not recover from the Emerson loss.
Congrats to Emerson on a great season as well.
Why is it surprising that the Monks beat Emmanuel? St. Joe's lost to Emerson by 10, Lasell by 9 and Wales by 6 so they are playing close games in conference and the opener vs Wales should be a great game in Providence.
Even if Emmanuel won today, Emerson held the tiebreaker over the Saints - Lions beat Lasell, and Lasell beat Emmanuel, so Emerson would be the regular season champ and the #1 seed regardless of the outcome of the Saints-Monks game in Standish. Since the Lions the won and the Saints lost, Emerson wins the regular season title outright.
It looks like Tuesday's games are going to be exciting one. I do believe come Saturday it should be Emerson versus Lasell in the finals. St' Joe's and Johnson & Wales just are strong enough to compete with Emmanuel, Emerson or Lasell. Don't get me wrong they are both good teams but certainly we wont see them in the final. Emmanuel definitely has not recovered since their lost to Lasell a few weeks back. Emerson is back at full strength now, and Lasell has been playing some of its best basketball of the year these past few weeks. It should be an exciting week.
I agree that it should be an exciting week in the GNAC and I also want to remind people that last year both the #1 and #2 teams got knocked off in the playoffs. The playoffs last year had the #4 and #5 seed going for the title and I think that anything could happen this year as well. Yah Emerson and Lasell are the top two right now, but who's to say that Emmanuel can't spring back?
Not only that, but Wales is solid and St. Joe's could make a run as well....and the 6th seed is Riv who's played everyone tough plus they defend and rebound well. I think the conference play has been very good this year and this is one of the deepest seasons in the twelve years of the GNAC.
As I said before....this has the chance to be a great week.
I agree this week should be very interesting in the GNAC...hopefully there are some great upsets worth talking about.
As competitive as the GNAC has been this season with lots of the top teams beating up on each other throughout the season and teams like norwich stealing some BIG wins one would think the GNAC tournament would be filled with some interesting games and expect at least 2 or 3 upsets but with the way the playoff games are set up it looks like things are going to be rather predictable.
#1 Emerson hosts #8 Daniel Webster:
Emerson has been the most consistent team in the GNAC this year as evidence by there 22-3 overall record. They went 11-1 at home this year including a blowout 30 point win versus Daniel Webster about a month ago. Theres virtually no way Emerson doesnt win this game, its just a matter of picking an over under...might as well set that at around 23.
#4 Johnson and Wales hosts #5 St. Joseph's:
As expected by the seedings this looks like the most interesting game. St. Joe's is coming off an impressive win vs Emmanuel to cap off the season and J&W finished the season...sloppy to say the least. Going 2-5 in their final 7 games I dont think any of us saw. The most interesting of those 7 games in relation to this matchup with St. Joe's came February 9th when they hosted, and beat St. Joe's 98-92, in OT. Momentum appears to clearly be in St. Joe's favor however J&W has played very well on their home court this season going 9-3 with impressive wins over Lasell and Roger Williams as well as a 3 point loss to the NESCAC's Conn. College. I truly believe this game will come down to Elbie Murphy and his efficiency, the standout from St. Joe's led the nation in steals last year but found himself in foul trouble a fair amount as well. If he stays on the floor and is intelligent with his shot selection St. Joe's comes out with a win, if he struggles and winds up shooting 6-19 from the floor St. Joe's has no chance. My prediction: St. Joe's wins by 8-10.
#3 Emmanuel hosts #6 Rivier:
Another great matchup. Emmanuel ends the season on a slide with back to back losses to Emerson and St. Joe's but I cant see Rivier coming into Boston and stealing a win. It is very difficult to beat a team 3 times in the same season, but Emmanuel went 9-1 at home in conference play this season and is just too good for Rivier, not to say Rivier cant come in and win because they most certainly can, however I just dont see it happening. Emmanuel wins by double digits.
#2 Lasell hosts #7 Norwich:
Norwich has been a crazy team this year. They beat Emerson, Emmanuel, Johnson & Wales, St. Joe's, but lost to Mt. Ida, Suffolk, and Daniel Webster??? Regardless no team in the GNAC is as hot as Lasell right now winners of 13 of 14 including their final 9. Only 1 of those 13 wins was by less than 10 points (won by 9 vs St. Joe's). The point is they are winning and doing it VERY convincingly. This has blowout written all over it. Lasell by 20+
That would make the semis look like this:
#1 Emerson hosts #5 St. Joe's
#2 Lasell hosts #3 Emmanuel
And then we would be looking at some great games...
Great preview Ankles... i agree with all of your picks. Does the gnac go to the highest seed's court for the final four?
yes it does. the semi's will be at Emerson and Lasell, if they win, but like Ankles said, I can't see either team losing either.
I agree! I don't see anyone but lasell and emerson in the finals.
good call ankles. looks like you're 3-0. Any predictions for the semi's? i say Emerson Lasell in the finals. should be a great end of the week no matter what teams advance
i'd say watch out for emmanuel...
The semi's should be good - I don't think it's as clearcut as most make it out to be....yes, it could be Lasell-Emerson in the finals but any of the other matchups are just as feasible.
Gotta earn it to make it to Saturday.....can't wait for tomorrow night.
The 1st round went pretty much exactly how I envisioned it, the semis certainly look much more interesting....
I'll start out with the 2/3 matchup....
#2 Lasell hosts #3 Emmanuel:
This game certainly can go either way, I think Lasell certainly has a couple advantages starting with Crawford and Guitian. A 6'5 guard and a 6'9 Forward/Center combining for 39.9ppg, and 17rpg will be very difficult to contain. Powell does a more than adequate job of running things at the point so if Lasell does there thing it really doesnt matter what Emmanuel does because Lasell's best will beat Emmaneul's best any day of the week. That being said Lasell doesnt always bring it like they need to, they have over the past month or so in rather convincing fashion. The matchup 2 weeks ago I think is a good indicator of what is likely to happen in this game (lasell won 84-70 Guitian had a game high 26 and 17). Emmanuel certainly has a shot but everything needs to go right and a few things need to go wrong for lasell, I just dont see that happening. Lasell wins by 10+ but the game is much closer than the score will indicate.
#1 Emerson hosts #5 St. Joseph's:
This one I'm excited about. First and foremost is Rouse going to be playing?? I didnt see his name in the box score...
I think his presence largely impacts this game one way or the other. Lets examine both scenerios:
Rouse DOES play:
Emerson becomes a much bigger favorite. At the beginning of the month the Monks visited Emerson and Emerson prevailed with a 10 point win, examining that game particularly on St. Joseph's side of things:
Anyone who has seen St. Joe's play knows they have 3 KEY players who must contribute if they are going to win against a great team like Emerson, Elbie Murphy, Alberto Rue (shooter), and Ray Eatmon. In that early february matchup the trio put up less than stellar numbers:
Murphy: 6-13 FG, 1-5 3Pt, 20 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 steals
Rue: 3-6 FG, 2-3 3PT, 8 points, 3 rebounds
Eatmon: 1-8 FG, 2 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 blocks, 2 steals
Murphys line isnt too bad, rather impressive actually very balanced, thats the type of player he is, but its important for Rue to stretch the defense by putting up 8-10 shots at least and with the way hes shot the 3 ball this year (51-110 3PT, 46%) 10+ shots isnt a bad idea. Rue opens things up for Eatmon who shot 58% from the floor this year so his 1-8 showing was extremely uncharacteristic and cant be expected again. It really starts with Murphy, if he does his part (18-22 points) grabs 5 or so rebounds and is an absolute hassle on defense he's putting the Monks in a situation to win, however it ends with the rest of the team. Rue and Eatmon both need double figures efficiently and then they need an x-factor to step up and that could be one of 3 people, C. Davis, A. Davis, R. Mattison. Most likely C. Davis. So if St. Joes wins its because Murphy did his balanced line, Rue and Eatmon both hit double figures, and C. Davis stepped up with a big 8 points 6 rebounds off the bench.
I personally don't see that happening as St. Joe's has just been far too inconsistent this year and Emerson has been just the opposite, very consistent.
If Rouse DOESNT play:
St. Joe's doesnt need to play quite so perfect they might be able to get by on their scrappy-ness. They still need Murphy to come up big but to counteract that if Dawkins takes over Emerson still has got to be the favorite.
I like Emerson, keeping about an 8 point lead all game, FT shooting in the final minutes stretches it to a 13 point win or so.
then its Emerson vs Lasell!!
Ankles you nailed it with your preview. I think Emmanuel is good, but not good enough to beat Lasell. Their match up a few weeks ago really showed that when Lasell is on, they are the almost impossible to beat. I look forward to seeing Lasell vs. Emerson on Saturday
I like your insight Ankles, and i actually looked forward to reading. I must say tho, I do agree with you on the fact that Lasell has to bring it to beat Emmanuel. Although Lasell might be more talented, I must admit when it comes playoff time, Emmanuel is a completely different team. They somehow elevate their game throughout the playoffs every year to a higher level, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they win in upset fashion. I remember distinctly in last years semi's they were absolutely flawless when they took on top seeded Western New England, i believe they were close to 100% on their free throws and had less that 10 turnovers all game. I know for a fact they are gonna be pumped up to play especially since they were so close to the NCAA's and a GNAC title last year. Looks like tomorrow night should be interesting...
Thank you UnsugHero, I couldn't agree more. I think people are continuing to overlook the fact that the GNAC playoffs the last two years have not been consistent with predictions... let's see what happens tomorrow, it should be good!
Looks like Emerson/Lasell on Saturday Afternoon, but it also looks like Emmanuel and St. Joe's didn't go quietly. Any details on the games? I'm sure they were pretty good, and Saturday looks to be a great Championship game.
Emerson vs St. Joes couldnt have been more of what I thought would happen had I scripted the game.
Final Score 79-75
clearly St. Joseph's put themselves in a position to win losing by only 4, and how did they do it? Elbie Murphy led things for the monks with a josh smith esque line of 14pts, 4rebs, 3as, 2blks, 2stls. Eatmon reached double figures (10 pts) as did Rue (14 pts on 4-6 from 3PT). The x-factors that stepped up for St. Joe's were somewhat of a surprise, but the starting backcourt of Vachon and Friend combined for 20 pts (10 apiece).
The difference....
Bryan Rouse
absolute domination of efficiency. 28 points, 8 rebounds on 9-11 FG and 10-11 from the line. All done in a modest 29 minutes.
Sounds like a great battle and with St. Joe's having ZERO seniors on the roster and Sanicola sure to bring in some other freshmen ready to play right away I think the monks might be a favorite heading into next season.
Lasell wins by 9, pretty much no surprse, I have a feeling the game was a bit closer than 9 that FT at the end stretched the score out a bit.
Even with Rouse playing as he did against St. Joe's I'm just not sure Emerson will have the firepower to keep up with Lasell in the final. Regardless, it should be a great game
Ankles -
I'm a bit surprised at that statement considering Emerson beat Lasell in Newton without Rouse and Messinger - considering they are both back and playing well, how can Emerson NOT have the firepower to win again? 2nd in the nation in FG% and 3-pt FG% - I think there's plenty of weapons for the Lions.
Great job with the previews - everything played out as you scripted. Tomorrow should be a great game.
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Even with Rouse playing as he did against St. Joe's I'm just not sure Emerson will have the firepower to keep up with Lasell in the final. Regardless, it should be a great game.
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perhaps firepower was the wrong word...
Emerson certainly has the offensive ability to offensively play with just about anyone due in large part to their efficiency (as you mentioned) the point I was eluding to is that Lasell is all about downright outscoring you, and over 15 of their last 16 games they have been very successful at that. For the season on average Lasell takes 9 more FG attempts per game than Emerson does (63 attempts vs 54)
Now that doesnt mean Lasell is for sure going to take more shots than Emerson their earlier matchup this year shows us. And its worth pointing out the game story for that game: Emerson won 83-79, and the box score shows about as dead even of a game as it could have possibly been. Both teams took the exact same number of FG attempts, Emerson shot 33-57, Lasell 32-57. Lasell killed Emerson on the boards (again no Rouse) 36-14. The biggest thing in my eyes was the turnover situation, taking care of the basketball baby! Lasell had 20 giveaways to Emersons 11. and Emerson came away with 14 steals. Also had Ben Chase not shot 12-16, 6-7 from 3PT en route to 30 points, Im pretty sure Emerson doesnt win.
For this upcoming championship game I expect this.
Lasell DOES put up at least 5 more FG attempts (which could be big). Emerson shoots around 50-52% from the floor, Lasell shoots around 47-49%. The boards get dominated by Guitian and Lasell (even with Rouse). The Lasers hold Ben Chase in check (to an extent, no 6-7 from 3 stuff). Emerson will remain very efficient from the field and the free throw line. However I expect Lasell to limit their TO's to 15 or under. Guitian and Crawford combine for at least 36 points and the supporting cast gets enough done to pull out the win. Rouse, Shannon, Chase, and Dawkins will have solid games but it comes down to just one of them taking over which I just dont feel is going to happen (if it does my bets on Dawkins).
My guess:
Final Score Lasell 87 Emerson 83
Just wanted to pass this along for anyone who hadnt seen it yet, All Conference teams and awards were presented the other day....
First Team:
Jeremy Shannon Guard, Sophomore - Emerson
Rob Williams-Hinton Guard, Junior - Emmanuel
Japhet Kerr Guard, Senior - Johnson & Wales
Jose Guitian Center, Junior - Lasell
Jeff Carpenter Forward, Senior - Rivier
Second Team:
Ben Chase Forward Senior, - Emerson
Mack Spellman Forward, Junior - Emmanuel
Greg Samuels Forward, Senior - Johnson & Wales
Jaime Crawford Forward, Senior - Lasell
Elbie Murphy Forward, Junior - Saint Joseph's
Third Team:
Will Dawkins Guard, Senior - Emerson
Tirone McCray Forward, Senior - Johnson & Wales
Dwayne Powell Guard, Senior - Lasell
Jerrold Williams Guard, Junior - Norwich
Raymond Eatmon Forward, Sophomore - Saint Joseph's
Player of the Year: Jeremy Shannon- Emerson
Rookie of the Year: Chris Hanson- Daniel Webster
Defensive Player of the Year: Jeremy Shannon- Emerson
Coach of the Year: Hank Smith- Emerson
Games over lasers wins by double digits but it was much closer then that. the big 3 for lasell had 68 points, shannon played very well had close to 30
wow im not sure I could have been more wrong on this one. Lasell wins handily with Guitian and Crawford leading the way but as for the game story itself I was way off. Emerson put up 17 MORE shots than Lasell but were not the typically efficient team they had been all season. Emerson shot just 41.2% from the floor including 6-24 from 3pt land. Lasell had 21 giveways to Emersons 11 which I thought if that was gonna happen there would be no way Lasell would win this game Lasell was EXTREMELY efficient from everywhere shooting wise 54.9% from the floor, 48% from 3 (12-25), and 81.8% from the free throw line. They did control the boards (37-30) and allowed GNAC Player of the Year Shannon to go off and have a stellar game but held the other big 3 in check.
Hats of to Lasell for really getting things done and finishing the season out in very strong fashion. They really had a gameplan against Emerson today and executed it to near perfection.
I really think this Lasell team can make some noise in the NCAA's winning a game or two (maybe more if they get a great draw). But it will be very interesting to see what happens with Emerson they had a terrific season finishing 24-4 although I personally think the selction committee will frown upon their out of conference schedule and simply fail to see any BIG wins needed to warrant an at large bid. Regardless I expect to see them getting the top seed in the ECAC's should thy chose to accept.
Ankles, i was just wondering(in your opinion), do you think its completely out of the question that Emerson gets an At-large bid? I realize its not about how many wins, and its about who you beat, regardless, the NCAA committee has to look at Emerson, they had only 4 losses all season, and 24 wins... that has to account for something, no?
unfortunately no theres a zero percent chance they get an at large after the way today went.
amherst, umd, and brandeis all missing out on AQ's puts them into the NCAA's by way of an at large bid, and then still in front of Emerson is trinity and middlebury in terms of being considered for an at large bid and its extremely unlikely both of those teams receive bids as well. Emerson although having had a tremendous season going 24-4 and playing great basketball every game they did not beat anyone. They need to have at least 4-5 legit out of conference games, MIT, wheaton, babson, etc. they are ok teams but they cant be the toughest competition you face all year. If they were to schedule a Keene State, Middlebury, WPI, Salem State, and Tufts they would at least have the foundation for a good solid respectable out of conference schedule that they should still win a number of games with. Keene State will be amongst the tops of the LEC, Middlebury is a top NESCAC team, WPI is tops in the NEWMAC, salem is tops in theirs, and tufts/bates is a good team who might have struggled this year but is still a worthy opponent on anyones schedule. All of these are winnable games, if they could get a RIC, Williams, Amherst type team or even better 2 that would be ideal but unlikely to happen. They cant afford to have Babson, Wheaton, and MIT be the cream of their out of conference play when they play in the GNAC. Even a close loss to Amherst is probably worth more than wins over each of those 3 teams in the committees eyes.
Lasers just outplayed Emerson today. Dawkins only had around 7 points today and Rause was in foul trouble and didn't play much of the second half. Shannon proved worthy of GNAC player of the year, he put in around 30, but the big three of Guitian, Crawford and Caravoulis was just too much, as they put up 20+ points a piece.
...And yeah, there's no chance of an at large at this point. If Salem State, UMD, Brandeis, Amherst, among others had won their conferences, then maybe I'd say there's a chance, but not now. It was a good season regardless, though.
Quote from: UnsungHero11 on March 01, 2008, 07:34:18 PM
Ankles, i was just wondering(in your opinion), do you think its completely out of the question that Emerson gets an At-large bid? I realize its not about how many wins, and its about who you beat, regardless, the NCAA committee has to look at Emerson, they had only 4 losses all season, and 24 wins... that has to account for something, no?
The process involves making a regional ranking for every region like they've been releasing the last few weeks. These final rankings are never released. They use primarily regional record and a computation of opponent's winning percentage and opponents-opponent's winning percentage (so beating good teams in bad conferences aren't as valuable as they used to be). They also take into account who teams beat and head-to-head against other top teams, but these are lesser criteria.
Once they get these together they remove all the teams who won automatic bids and teams that were awarded pool B bids. Finally they take the top remaining team from each region and put them "on the table." Then, using other complex criteria, they pick the best team. Once that team is given an at-large bid, they take the next highest team from that region and replace the one chosen "on the table." Theoretically, one region could supply all the at-large bids, although that's probably mathematically impossible.
All that to say, Emerson will have 4-5 teams (at least) will still be there above Emerson. So they have to survive not only 4-5 teams from their own region, but a number of teams from other regions as well. There's only, what? 17 at-large spots and there are locks in other regions like Amherst is in NE. I'm not sure if Emerson will even make it to the table.
Emerson has no shot. With UMD, Amherst, Brandeis seemingly locks for Pool C. I would take the loser of WPI/CGA NEWMAC final before Emerson
Some of the guys who run numbers are saying Emerson may still have a chance. We'll see, but stranger things have happened.
so just to clarify from one of your above posts, you're saying that theoretically one region could supply all 17 at-large bids?
Quote from: kmk72289 on March 02, 2008, 12:10:59 AM
so just to clarify from one of your above posts, you're saying that theoretically one region could supply all 17 at-large bids?
Yes, theoretically, but realistically there's almost no way it's possible to have that many teams with regional records strong enough to trump the rest of the country. The mere fact that a lot of them play each other, it precludes that outcome, but there is no division of bids by region.
another blow for emerson, coast guard beating wpi
anyone know if carpenter from rivier is looking to pursue professional options he had a great career in the GNAC. 1500+pts and 1000+ reb
Moral of the story for Emerson: Next year, go out and play somebody in the nonconference. Sucks that you won't get in this year, but MIT as your biggest win won't do the trick. Play a Nescac. Play UMD, Deis, anybody.
Wouldn't William Paterson be their biggest win?
It's looking like they'll be in behind Middlebury on the NE list.
Amherst, Brandeis, UMASS-D seem absolute locks.
Next comes Bowdoin and WPI who have good shots.
Then you have Middlebury really on the bubble and Emerson even more so.
It's not out of the question, but it doesn't look good.
Hoops fan-
Maybe you could answer this.
Do the committee's only count regional records?
Like for Emerson does a William Paterson win account for anything?
Or if a team from the west coast came and beat a Williams?
Quote from: All-around on March 02, 2008, 08:57:57 PM
Hoops fan-
Maybe you could answer this.
Do the committee's only count regional records?
Like for Emerson does a William Paterson win account for anything?
Or if a team from the west coast came and beat a Williams?
They expanded the definition of regional record this year. I forget the specifics, but I believe the William Patterson game would count. However, William Patterson is still very much a question mark themselves and I have to think they're ahead of Emerson.
Here's the in-depth explanation of what constitutes a region game.
http://www.d3hoops.com/faq.php?question=44
Mass and NJ are in the same administrative region, so it was a regional game.
Looks like Lasell is the only team to represent the GNAC this year in the NCAA's. They have a tough draw with Brandeis. Any thoughts on the situation?
Does Emerson get the to ECAC bid?..and if so, how can we find out who they're playing.
It looks like Emerson was the last team out from New England. They really had a better shot than I thought.
They'll post later today once everything is settled:
http://www.ecacsports.com/championships/current_basketball_champ./selection_monday
I expect Emerson to be the top seed in New England.
Tough break for them. Seems like that Coast Guard win may have cost them.
They'll probably be one of the few teams in the country with such a good record who didnt make it (not counting teams like Green Mountain who really play nobody).
That's pretty much what happened...we were the last out in NE - the fact that UMD, Brandeis, WPI, AND Amherst all losing their conference tournament sealed our fate as an at-large.
We get to keep playing as the #1 seed in the ECAC - a long way from barely getting in to the tourney as the GNAC champion in 1998.
Can't wait for Wednesday - there another game to get geeked up for and I'm happy there's more to go in what has been a great year for a great team - not just in accomplishments, but as people...we really have a great group and it would be nice moment to see former Emerson AD Keeling handing the championship trophy to Coach Smith. We started the season honoring Keeling for his many contributions to Emerson athletics at our first home game - maybe there's some role reversal in the cards for Sunday. It should be fun.
Best of luck to Emerson in the ECAC's. Hopefully they can finish off what has been a terrific season for them.
Oh by the way, I don't think Lasell is any match for Brandeis
Yeah, Lasell got a tough draw with Brandeis. I think they're a team that CAN make some waves w/ their big 3, but I don't seem them beating Deis.
JWU is a 6 seed and will travel to play #3 Newbury.
any thoughts?
Newbury needed a 75 foot buzzer beater to beat DWeb earlier this season (which was on ESPN by the way). And I'm pretty sure Newbury is an independent team, who don't play any difficult teams. I say JWU wins, but as far as i'm concerned, it's not an upset.
yah newbury did barely beat dwebs.. but newbury did beat curry college who won the TCCC this year. That is a pretty good quality win.
it should be a good game.. though JWU strength of schedule could be to their advantage compared to newbury
Any thoughts about Emmanuel being the #2 seed in the ECAC tourney?
One thing is for certain about the Brandeis/Lasell first round match up - the gym will be packed. Brandeis averages around 750 people per game at home, but that includes pre winter break games with 250-300 fans, as of late its more around 1000+ with 1700 against Amherst. Now partner that with the fact that Lasell is only 2 miles away and you might have the largest crowd in Brandeis history.
What teams are leaving the GNAC after this year?
just daniel webster is going to the NECC
newbury wins the battle of culinary schools in the ECAC's as they beat jwu 64-60. both teams had 10 point leads in this game.
Emerson was upset in the first round of the ECACs despite holding a double digit lead w/ 10 min. left. UNE couldn't stop Emerson's offense, but Emerson's D proved to be the deciding factor in this game yet again because they couldn't stop the UNE offensive effort, in particular, Johnnie Jefferson, who put in like 40 pts. tough way to end the year. On a plus, Will Dawkins put in around 35 pts. and capped off his college career well.
All three GNAC teams go down in the ECAC's--must not have come to play.
Would like to congratulate Emerson College on having a great season, and quite possibly putting them on the map for years to come--especially having Shannon and Rouse returning.
Congrats to Will Dawkins who seems like he's been there forever.
Next year should be interesting again as Emmanuel returns everyone, Lasell has their big guy back, and rumor has it Albertus Magnus has some major recruits coming in.
St. Joe's brings everyone back as well.....and I fully expect them to bring in at least 2 or 3 more freshmen who will claim a roster spot, Im guessing at least 1 of them will be a PG ready to play meaningful minutes right away...
For Lasell fans - you can catch tonight's NCAA tournament game against Brandeis live on WBRS 100.1FM Waltham. You can also tune in live online at www.wbrs.org, with pregame coverage starting at 7:45.
thanks for the link...im expecting a good game.
First off congratulations to Lasell for a great season. Tough loss last night. Lasell was missing something. There wasn't any passion or intensity from the team. I think they miss judge how good Brandies was, they were not prepared and it showed and that is the coaches fault. Lasell will struggle next year with the loss of Jaime Crawford and Dwayne Powell. Lasell is really going to have to recruit to stay a top the GNAC.
How do you misjudge won of the top teams in the country? If a player can't get up for an NCAA tournament game they should look in the mirror, not at their coach.
i said it once and i'll say it again, with lasell's talent and everything, they were not half the team they could have been this year.
Quote from: UnsungHero11 on March 08, 2008, 10:23:22 AM
i said it once and i'll say it again, with lasell's talent and everything, they were not half the team they could have been this year.
I agree, and I think some of the fault has to go to the coach. Lasell had the makings of a excellent year, at least on paper. They only had crawford out for three games total. There is no reason why this team should not have gone further in the NCAA tourney. They were not prepared. They took things too lightly adn that is a reflection of the coach.
I do not agree. The first half of the game Lasell played extremely well and hung in with Brandeis. That fact is that Brandeis is a more talented, deep and better overall team. Brandeis played 10 guys, all of whom would start on Lasell and their depth wore Lasell down in the second half. Lasell hung in, but seemed to lack depth in the 2nd half.
Lasell is the Knicks of D3. Lots of talent, but they can't win with it because there's no teamwork. Everyone thinks shoot-first, no one has good court vision, no one moves well without the ball, no one passes well. It doesn't translate to good wins against good teams.
to be fair, i think the nature of a lot of d3 teams revolves around shooters just because many teams don't have the dominating big man down low.
jamie crawford lead the country in 3pt % and the other kid shoots the ball real well and there big man is 6'8 and athletic dont know what your trying to say kmk
eclinhcy was saying lasell isn't successful because they think shoot first and i'm saying that's was a lot of d3 schools do is focus on shooting because most of the talented big men either go d2 or d1.
especially the gnac too, which is a relatively small league.
While I agree that Lasell could have easily had a better record than they did...with the talent level maybe a couple less losses...but they won the league in their first year in the league and they played a Brandeis team that is top 10 in the country and is a far better and deep team than lasell.
Lasell plays 7 guys deep...that will not beat brandeis
hey any early word on recruiting class from teams in the confernce. (names please) and any early picks for an preseason all conference teams.
I was at the Amherst-Lasell game earlier this year and I must say that I thought they had the talent to be major contenders in the Northeast. I definitely think the barrier impeding them from hitting that level is mostly mental. There coach is a clever guy, I am sure he will have his team prepared to great things next year... sometimes all you need is a one big win in order to change things around.
What do the recruiting classes look like for the schools around the leauge.
Looks like Emerson is bringing in some talent.
Emerson Finds a Steal
Kyle Kesses, a 6'5" small forward who did a post-graduate year at Choate Rosemary Hall will head to Emerson next season. Kesses is a tremendous athlete and big time three-point shooter who should have a chance to crack the Lions starting five next year. He set two records at Choate for the most three-pointers in a single game (9) and the most points in a half (32). Both came in a game against Suffield Academy in January. Kesses spurned interest from the division II level in favor of Emerson in large part because of their academic reputation and the strength of their communications program.
Keeses should be a very nice add to an already strong Emerson team. Is there any update to other teams recruiting class, in particular Saint Joe's, Lassell, Emannuel, or Mount Ida.
wow, i don't know much about kesses, but if he is as good as that blurb says, alongside shannon and rause, emerson's going to be hard to beat.
some games have been posted on the GNAC website. there's a number of interesting non-conference games.
http://www.thegnac.com/sports/schedule-nf.php?sport=4&type=1&sn=Men's%20Basketball&y=0809
the season is rapidly approaching about a month and a half away till preseason anyone with thoughts about how this season is going to play out?
So what's the news?
I keep checking this because I don't live in the area anymore and I can't seem to get any word on anybody on this league? Who's gonna be good and who's not? Will Norwich ban the cadets from bringing rifles into the gym (cause it's kinda weird/scary and pretty unnecessary)? Can Suffolk stop being so lame and get better lighting for their gym? It literally looks like bar lighting in there. Will anyone ever dunk regularly in the GNAC? How many Crane tattoos will be in the GNAC this year? Who's taking the over is a "Number of times Dave Morrisette gets beat up by his player, therefore forcing that kid to miss some games" line at 2? I need to know these things....and I count on message boards to reveal them. Nobody has too much to do at work that they can't give me a little something here. So come on, and do it.
Couple of big wins for the gnac, lasell beating brandies and Albertus beating Trinity. Any info on these games
Really exciting game at Wheaton last night with Emerson pulling it out 100-97 in double overtime. The Emerson team seemed like they were adjusting to having a lot of new personnel, but their studs from last season certainly came to play. Junior Bryan Rouse had 28 points and classmate Jeremy Shannon posted the ridiculous stat line of 25 points, 11 assists, and 9 rebounds, including a game-tying three-pointer at the end of regulation to send it to overtime. I bet the Wheaton radio announcers feel a bit responsible after declaring the game "over" with 7 seconds left and the Lyons up 3.
Quote from: jamiejohn on November 19, 2008, 09:47:33 AM
Couple of big wins for the gnac, lasell beating brandies and Albertus beating Trinity. Any info on these games
Albertus beating trinity. That has to hurt... In the last 4 years they are 12-88.
Lasell looking like the cream in the GNAC again early.
Lions roll 86-58 over U-Mass Boston....any details?
Amherst beats Lasell 104-77.
Quote from: leelowlang on November 28, 2008, 10:51:26 PM
Lasell looking like the cream in the GNAC again early.
i don't know. Lasell is a great team and have played a tough schedule, but i think you could make an argument for emerson, emmanuel and st. joe's as well.
Your conference's boy Shannon was one of the 5 players to be picked to the D3 team of the week...
Emerson, with a player like Shannon, certainly could win it. St. Joe's I agree with as a good contender. Not sold on Emmanuel yet. The inside/out of Guitian and Sainval with Carvoulias as a solid 3rd offensive weapon and good depth makes Lasell the favorite for me. The New Orleans PG for the Lasers will be the X factor or not.
Emerson got destroyed by Brandeis today. It looks like Shannon was held in pretty good check as well, commiting 7 turnovers and shooting well below his usual point and FG average (15 points, 5 for 14, 36%). Was there anyone who was at the game who has any insights?
yeah, the game actually hung in the balance for some time, i think it was like an 8 pt. game with 12 min. or so left, but Brandeis had much too much size down low. Hollins from Brandeis put in 27 and had 14 boards and overall, just was a major presence down low.
it looks like Emerson is running into the same problems they did last year with their defense. Brandeis put in 97 points on sat. and they've given up 80+ points in 5 out of their 6 games thus far.
as far as shannon goes, he had a pretty poor shooting performance in comparison to the last few games. got some good looks, but a lot just weren't falling for him.
Suddenly Lassel, after that win against Brandeis earlier in the year, jumps way up on my list of contenders in the GNAC.
Lasell is the pick to win this league.
Emmauel the pre season pick to win the league lost yesterday to Rivier.
So the North East Region Posters' Poll is back, if you are interested in participating, which clearly you are, please submit your polls to either my email or my message box here by 9pm mondays (so for this week tonight, sorry for the short notice).
Thanks
MIT 65- Emerson 57 tonight (Bartolotta 27 pts, 9 boards, 3 assists, 3 steals, 4 blocks and 1 turnover; Shannon 17 points, 9 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals, 1 block and 7 turnovers). The score was 37-18 at the half (Bartolotta scored 17, Shannon 6 in the first half) and MIT led by as much as 26 in the second half before Emerson made it a game. I saw a lot of good things out of Shannon and Bartolotta. Shannon appears to be playing out of position, he seems like a true point (a very good one) but has to score on the team he is on. If you want to read my take I wrote a lot about the game on the NEWMAC board.
Does anyone know what happened to Emerson recruit Kyle Kesses? I understand that he is in school, but he is not on the roster.As a 6'5" shooter and scorer he would give Shannon some much needed help and loosen up the doubles on Rouse.
was wondering the same thing actually...
Does anyone want blogs like this out of the GNAC? (http://clubtrillion.blogspot.com) I sure do. This is what I need fellas. This is what you are NOT giving me. I want to hear what is going on form those that know. I don't know about Kresses, but if he isn't on the roster, I can be sure he has some sort of attitude malfunction. Hank Smith doesn't mess with kids who have bad attitudes, doesn't matter how tall you are or how well you shoot.
Congratulations to Brian Rouse of Emerson for scoring his 1,000 point last week. The junior big man is averaging 23.3 ppg on 57% from the field, and 53% from 3-point range. I was able to watch Endicott at Emerson this past weekend, and Rouse was phenomenal -- 28 points on only 13 shots, 10 rebounds, and 5 assists. His ability to finish at the basket with either hand, his footwork, and his shooting ability make him one of the best low-post scorers I have seen at the D3 level. Even as undersized as he is for his position at 6'4", he is nearly impossible to stop 1 on 1 in the post.
Congrats to Rouse. He gets the most out of his talents...
Rouse is a good player, everyone is aware of this. Him and Jeremy Shannon make the Emerson team. But when Emerson plays teams with good post players they seem to struggle. Even though Rouse is skilled sometimes he is too short for his position. Otis from Mount Ida ALWAYS seems to dominate in the games against Emerson. And rookie post player Robert Thurman from Norwich gave Emerson trouble in their loss to Norwich. So maybe Emerson should get a good sized post player with some of Rouse's skills.
While you may be right Emerson needing bigger guys.
In the 2 games they've matched up this year...Otis Thompson has scored 3 points and 6 points to go with 3 rebounds and 7 rebounds.. While Rouse has put up 22points, 5 rbs, and 26 ponts with 11 rebounds. Wouldnt quite call that dominating by Thompson to say the least. Actually looks like Rouse dominated Thompson.
May want to check your facts before you make these so called statements.
Emerson's needed bigger guys for as long as I can remember. They always seem to be slightly undersized to make a run at the top teams in the region.
Points aren't everything in a match-up. 5 rebounds is a horrible amount of boards for a big man. The true big men in the GNAC create problems for the Emerson team in general, they only beat Mount Ida by 2 and 3 with both match ups and they lost to Norwich, which to be honest NO ONE saw coming. And we have yet to see them play against Lasell this year.
And 3 rebounds by Thompson?? Rouse out rebounded Thompson in both games.
Rouse is perfect for Emerson & their system. I think the Emerson coach prefers undersized, tough forwards. Anytime I'v seen them play over the years, this is how they looked. Having bigs doesn't guarantee success in NE or nationally. Virginia Weslyan won titles and went to another with a VERY undersized team. They had Brandon Adair(who was 6-5 at best) the year they won it & another 6-4ish kid off bench. They played hardnosed def & spread the floor offensively. I remember Anna Maria squads in mid 90's with their 6-4 post guy who scored over 2,000pts & a bunch of guards. It's really about the having talent & using it the right way. At D3 size is overrated. The guys above 6-5/6-6 at this level are usually stiffs. I'd take a kid like Rouse anyday.
yes most are stiffs, but when you do find a tall player who is a quality player that team will dominate because size is so rare in D3. Like Jose Guitan. As I said before I believe the young man from Norwich, the 6'11 kid will show to be dominate in the GNAC for his career here. What do you think?
Quote from: BornBalla on January 21, 2009, 03:02:33 PM
Rouse is perfect for Emerson & their system. I think the Emerson coach prefers undersized, tough forwards. Anytime I'v seen them play over the years, this is how they looked. Having bigs doesn't guarantee success in NE or nationally. Virginia Weslyan won titles and went to another with a VERY undersized team. They had Brandon Adair(who was 6-5 at best) the year they won it & another 6-4ish kid off bench. They played hardnosed def & spread the floor offensively. I remember Anna Maria squads in mid 90's with their 6-4 post guy who scored over 2,000pts & a bunch of guards. It's really about the having talent & using it the right way. At D3 size is overrated. The guys above 6-5/6-6 at this level are usually stiffs. I'd take a kid like Rouse anyday.
In the northeast it seems that way, but its a different story in other regions (especially in the west/midwest). There are a bunch of examples of tall players that are not 'stiffs' in d3. I could go through some of them, but all 5 centers on the preseason all american list are at least 6'7" and there are many more. I think the northeast, more than most regions, tends to be guard oriented and smaller conferences, such as the GNAC, are especially so. Therefore, shorter big men can put up big numbers and dominate. If you go to conferences like the WIAC and CCIW, and even the UAA, almost every team has a big man that can play.
Yes, if you look at the teams that actually succeed on a national scale from New England, they almost always have big guys who can really play. The recent strong Amherst teams, in addition to a great point guard of course, had a 6'8 kid in the class of 03, 6'7 Schiel in the class of 05, 6'6 Casnocha in 06, and then four guys, all at least 6'7 (one 6'10) who were all serious athletes / could run the floor, dunk, shoot, etc., in last year's graduating class. Amherst doesn't have a dominating inside presence this year and it's hurt them against the better teams. The Williams team that nearly won back-to-back titles had Coffin, a 6'8 guy who was by his junior year easily a D-I caliber talent (just ask the Holy Cross bigs who he dominated) and was the key to their tourney success. It's telling that no other new england squad has made the final four since 200. And Rochester, which generally has been loaded with huge, strong guys inside, has been the biggest roadblock for the New England powers in doing so.
Quote from: nescac1 on January 22, 2009, 11:27:55 AM
Yes, if you look at the teams that actually succeed on a national scale from New England, they almost always have big guys who can really play. The recent strong Amherst teams, in addition to a great point guard of course, had a 6'8 kid in the class of 03, 6'7 Schiel in the class of 05, 6'6 Casnocha in 06, and then four guys, all at least 6'7 (one 6'10) who were all serious athletes / could run the floor, dunk, shoot, etc., in last year's graduating class. Amherst doesn't have a dominating inside presence this year and it's hurt them against the better teams. The Williams team that nearly won back-to-back titles had Coffin, a 6'8 guy who was by his junior year easily a D-I caliber talent (just ask the Holy Cross bigs who he dominated) and was the key to their tourney success. It's telling that no other new england squad has made the final four since 200. And Rochester, which generally has been loaded with huge, strong guys inside, has been the biggest roadblock for the New England powers in doing so.
Also, the one drawback of the two Williams teams that Nogelo led to two final fours in the 90's was that these teams did not have a dominant big man. This was acutely the case when Williams played UW-Platteville in the semi finals. Williams started off hot and had a double-digat lead in the first half. Then there was a stretch for several minutes where Williams just could not get a rebound. Plateville had a hot shooting guard that game but if you ask Sheehy, Williams lack a true center who could rebound with the big kids from the Midwest is what prevented Williams from winning two national championships with Nogelo.
Coffin and DeMuth allowed Williams to compete inside with the midwest bigmen...
Anyone have a line on this tall kid from Norwich. I saw him at Duke just before winter break...if he's 6'10" I'm Barney's love child. He's GOT to be 7"1" at least....
Quote from: coach4407 on January 21, 2009, 08:13:14 PM
yes most are stiffs, but when you do find a tall player who is a quality player that team will dominate because size is so rare in D3. Like Jose Guitan. As I said before I believe the young man from Norwich, the 6'11 kid will show to be dominate in the GNAC for his career here. What do you think?
Riv clips Lasell. Emmanuel thrashes Emerson. Seems like the league is up for grabs this year!
Lets be honest Lasell had an off day, they are still the team to beat, and looking at the remainder of their schedule there is no one tht can touch them.
Quote from: 34whistle on January 30, 2009, 11:00:39 AM
Lets be honest Lasell had an off day, they are still the team to beat, and looking at the remainder of their schedule there is no one tht can touch them.
Ooops....no one that can touch them? I think you jinxed them. Suffolk put up 112 points (in a non-overtime game) and beat them today. Trouble in Laser-Land??
Yeah, I would say Lasell is not untouchable... if Suffolk can beat them then any team in this conference should be able to beat them
Yes they looked a little tired yesturday, and they stumbled a bit, but when it comes right down to it there is no one in the league who can consistanly match them. They will be just fine come playoff time, and will repeat.
While I agree that Lasell is still the team to beat in the GNAC, if a 2-14 team can put up 112 points on them, the idea that they have the conference on lock is ridiculous.
Lasell 79 Emerson 68
LC clinches home court throughout the playoffs.
No other news, just wanted to see if any of the GNAC fans were still alive! No posts for almost 3 weeks. It's playoff time, wake up!
Quote from: 34whistle on February 01, 2009, 10:41:34 AM
Yes they looked a little tired yesturday, and they stumbled a bit, but when it comes right down to it there is no one in the league who can consistanly match them. They will be just fine come playoff time, and will repeat.
I will stand by what I said! Lasell will cruise through the GNAC's And will repeat!!!!
Top 4 GNAC Champs of this Century in order..
1. 2002-03 Southern Vermont Mountaineers (Chicago imports in Bennington...)
2. 2003-04 Johnson & Wales Wildcats (Russell, Tamargo, and the Glory Days at Wales)
3. 2001-02 Suffolk Rams (Luisi and the Flex run to a T)
4. 2000-01 WNEC Golden Bears (Physical, defensive-oriented, gritty)
This edition of Lasell may make a run through the GNACs, but they could not play with any of these teams.
Stamp it.
I'd say Isaiah Duke and Spanbauer from Emmanuel for all-rookie team, O'Brien from St Joes too - who else?
I'm thinking Isaiah Duke and Eric Spanbauer from Emmanuel and Zach O'Brien from St. Joes for all - GNAC rookie - who else?
Lasell, St. Joe's, Emmanuel and Albertus Magnus move on in the GNAC's.
Emmanuel @ Lasell
Albertus @ St. Joe's
Thursday Night.
creek....how do you not list Norwich? They were the best champs of the decade...won back-to-back with the same group....it's not even close. Far more legit that #'s 1 and 2 on your list.
Any word on Emerson losing to Albertus Magnus by 28. That seems unusal?
pipes...
I thought about that, and I suppose your argument is valid. However, the GNAC was down in those two years, with the top two having cleaned house in many ways. I do not think those NU teams get it done against those top two overall. But I'd be willing to slide them in and bump WNEC out, maybe reshuffle the group then...it's all arbitrary anyway...just food for thought. But for one season only, give me either of the top two on my list and you can take the field (anyone left).
GNAC Championship is set, as Emmanuel defeats Lasell 94-91 in double overtime. Emmanuel will travel to Maine for Saturday's GNAC Championship game against St. Joseph's (Maine).
Congrats to Emmanuel on pulling off the upset and knocking out the Lasell Lasers before a packed house in Newton, MA tonight.
Did St Joe - Emmanuel split during the season?
St. Joe's swept Emmanuel in the regular season, with the Monks prevailing over the Saints by a score of 73-65 in Standish, Maine on January 19, and the Monks also winning 82-75 at the Jean Yawkey Center in Boston on February 17.
Based on these results, St. Joe's will come in to Saturday's title game as a slight favorite to capture the GNAC Men's Basketball Championship, but the title game should be a close one.
As for Lasell, their NCAA hopes are over as the Lasers will not be receiving a Pool C bid, but the Lasers should get an ECAC New England postseason bid to continue their season as Lasell did declare for the ECAC New England Men's Basketball Tournament.
albertus had a good oppurtunity of stealing that game against st joes. it was a four point game with four to play. albertus missed some key three pointers that might have made the difference. St joes played well down the stretch to hold on. Kinda seen lasell getting upset, becuase it seemed as if they were waiting for the gnac tourney to turn it up. they werent playing the best basketball headed in.
to answer someones question about emerson vs albertus. Albertus had just too much size on emerson, and matched up well against the lions. Shannon was frustrated as he cudnt do anything all game. Albertus came prepared, played excellent D, and shot the ball great. It really wasnt close again at the ten minute mark of the first half. Not bad for a second yr coach,mitch oliver(albertus), and a team picked second to last in the preseason poll. Albertus brought in the best freshman class, and besides cordova and leonzo there not losing anyone. Combine that with Oliver being a great recruiter, and albertus could be dangerous next year.
Look for st joes and emmanuel to go down to the wire. bith are playing great basketball as of right now. Cant wait to watch this one. How many teams get into the ECAC from the gnac?
Is there a place to see what teams applied to be in the ECAC's this year?
The list of declared teams for the ECAC New England DIII Men's Tournament can be found at:
http://www.ecac.org/championships/team/mbkb/2008-09/DIII_-_Men-s.pdf
The GNAC teams on the declared list are: St. Joe's Maine, Lasell, Johnson and Wales, Rivier, and Albertus Magnus.
St. Joe's Maine just got the GNAC automatic Pool A bid to the NCAAs with a 74-72 overtime win over Emmanuel today, so the Monks will be automatically withdrawn from ECAC consideration. Congrats to the Monks on winning the GNAC Men's Basketball Championship.
Emmanuel officially has ended its season with the loss today.
Creek, I just can't accept these as the top 2 teams. SVC had a team of one-and-done players that fueled their run and J & W was powered by Rohan Russell who was convicted of rape about a month after the tournament - http://www.d3hoops.com/notables?month=4&year=2004
One of the great things about D-3 is that you get to watch players and teams grow. Down or not, I thought Norwich was very good and so was WNEC - that team also won in 1999-2000. In '01 they beat Emerson in OT in one of the greatest games in conference history (Aaron Young of Emerson hit a 25 footer at the buzzer to force OT) and don't forget that Emerson team went to the ECAC finals after beating Colby and Wesleyan and lost at Williams by 20 (as close as a dozen in the 2nd half) to the same group that would win the NCAA tourney the next year and lose at the buzzer in the title game the year after.
I still think Emerson would have won that '01 title game vs. WNEC had Dave Miller not gotten hurt in the 1st half - and for those who remember D-Mills that was before any of his knee injuries and he was lightning fast and a great on-the ball defender. That teams also starred Rob Murphy, Rich Glesmann, and freshman Rob Hennigan who went on to score 2,200 points.
Since the conference has only been around since 1995-96, only Emerson (1996-97, 97-98), WNEC (1999-01) and Norwich (2004-06) have repeated as champs so if we're talking about greatest teams in conference I think we have to start the conversation there.....I've been around since the beginning, so that's my two cents.
Thoughts anyone?
Top 4 GNAC Champs of this Century in order..
1. 2002-03 Southern Vermont Mountaineers (Chicago imports in Bennington...)
2. 2003-04 Johnson & Wales Wildcats (Russell, Tamargo, and the Glory Days at Wales)
3. 2001-02 Suffolk Rams (Luisi and the Flex run to a T)
4. 2000-01 WNEC Golden Bears (Physical, defensive-oriented, gritty)
Can someone post your NCAA team's profiles in here:
http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6299.0
Actually, SVC had a good run for two seasons. The year they won it and then went on to beat Lasell in round 1 of the NCAA tournament, and then the very next year when they pushed JWU to the wire, bowing out in the GNACS. That JWU team, mind you, had been to the GNAC finals twice in three years before winning it in 04. (Pipes, Russell's legal issues had nothing to do with the team's place in GNAC history, so there really is no need to factor that in). If you read the story you linked to your post, the alleged incient took place while attending a different school. Again, you can have your favorites just like anyone else - that's why it is thrown out there for discussion and debate. But as impressive as those two teams were when they peaked, it would be tough to keep them out of the conversation. To your credit, however, neither team can be listed as part of a strong program or tradition, as both have never come close to those performances in the last five years. Emerson, however, has one of (if not the most) impressive programs in the conference's history, given the challenges they have faced. Year in and year out, they will defend, defend, defend.
Lasell's Jose Guitian earned All-American Honorable Mention honors earlier this week. I think this is great for the school and for the conference. When was the last time a player from the GNAC was named to one of the All-American teams?
Just glancing through the all-time list:
http://www.d3hoops.com/tow/allamericans-all.htm
I would guess Rob Hennigan in 2004.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 24, 2009, 12:15:57 PM
Just glancing through the all-time list:
http://www.d3hoops.com/tow/allamericans-all.htm
I would guess Rob Hennigan in 2004.
That dude could play. Flat out.
Guitian was a player that should have played at higher level. Don't know his story but saw him play and he was tough. Shoots the ball well at 6-10. I googled him and found out that he was drafted in the professional league in Puerto Rico in their rookie draft. Congrats to him if he decides to play there. I have to imagine that he will also look to Europe, Asia, and South America who all have leagues. If all those Amherst players can play in Europe(There were 5 from the class of 08 in Europe), I would bet Guitian could as well.
Friends and fans: Any news on who's coming to the GNAC schools next year - come on, I need some hoop scoop. Thank you.
I would love to know of any recruits who are coming also. The GNAC had some surprises this year in the playoffs and had a good showing in the ECAC. Does anyone have a earlier preview for next fall?
OK - that's two cries for incoming frosh info - somebody help us out here.
SIDs - come on. Thanks.
I don't have a lot for you but Albertus Magnus has received a commitment from who will quite possibly step in and become THE BEST player in the GNAC the day he plays his first game there. Jefferson Lora, a 6'7" PF out of Lyman Hall HS decommitted from Central Connecticut State University (Division I Scholarship) and selected Albertus Magnus. Lora, a top 20 player in CT (#19 as of the last rankings) is a stud, not too many GNAC teams have D1 caliber players on their rosters....
The only other commitment I have seen is Curtis Robinson, the #13 ranked senior in Vermont out of Proctor High School is headed to Rivier College...
Quote from: broke_ya_ankles on May 13, 2009, 09:46:14 AM
I don't have a lot for you but Albertus Magnus has received a commitment from who will quite possibly step in and become THE BEST player in the GNAC the day he plays his first game there. Jefferson Lora, a 6'7" PF out of Lyman Hall HS decommitted from Central Connecticut State University (Division I Scholarship) and selected Albertus Magnus. Lora, a top 20 player in CT (#19 as of the last rankings) is a stud, not too many GNAC teams have D1 caliber players on their rosters....
The only other commitment I have seen is Curtis Robinson, the #13 ranked senior in Vermont out of Proctor High School is headed to Rivier College...
Here is the article that broke is talking about:
http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/803/Lora-Changes-Mind-Albertus-Magnus-Gets-Huge-Steal.php
Many thanks - anybody else?
From What we do know, what are you preseason picks for league standing? Obviously Emerson and Albertus have to be on top but where do you see the league falling after that.
Long time until Oct 15 but an early look at the GNAC.
Teams to beat:
Emerson...Going into their senior year, guard Jeremy Shannon and Bryan Rouse are dictating that the road to a GNAC championship must go through them. With both of the top returning scorers in the league and the lead assist man and a strong third option in Messenger, the Lions should be a force this up coming season. The only quetion is if the supporting cast can give enough support?
Albertus Magnus: Lost a couple of games the probably should have won last year, but most likely that won't be the case this year. With Jefferson Lora coming in to bolster a team of combo guard Walden St Juste, young high post and reigning ROY Ray Askew, and the potential emergence of post Andre Beckford. Albertus will be a threat and possibly the favorite for the GNAC crown. Did they gain enough experience on the perimeter though?
Staint Joseph's : The Monks, defending champs, return probably the most versitle player in the league in Ray Eatmon. The 6'5 W/P can do just about anything they ask of him. Also coming back is the athletic guard like Post Chris Davis and the wing shooting tandem of Petzy and O'brien. The question for them is how much does losing Elbie Murphy hurt them?
Team to watch:
Johnson & Wales : Johnson and Wales brought to the table a freshman heavy team. Their result, a sixth place finish in conference play. Not bad for a team relying so heavly on freshman. They should be able to build upon their success last year and be a strong team in the conference. Their question lay in the fact that they lost their two inside presences in Chrenshaw and Nicholson?
Emmanuel: Despite losing their top players in Rob Williams-Hinton and Mack Spellman, strong year from So Isiah Dukes, SR Mike Jackson, an JR Tyronne Buchannan have the Saints set for another strong bid at the GNAC. Expect strong play from Sophmore big men Andre Fuller and Eric Spanbauer. The question that the Saints have to answer is where will their perimeter shooting come from with the departure of their two star seniors.
Which way will they go?:
Lasell: This is the make it or break it year for the Lasers in their quest to be a perennial contender in the league. After losing Caravoulias, Fallon, Sanival, and oh not to mention D3 All American honorable mention, POY Jose Giutian, the Lasers look decimate but do not let that fool you they still have plenty of talent in Sophmores Javon Williams and Kevin Richard , Junior Corey Goodfrey, and Senior Charles Horton. Still will the loss of Jose Giutian prove to much?
Rivier : As the Raiders wave goodbye to the likes of Felipe Lima, Lance Bission, and Kevin Harrington they wave hello to a new set of problems such as replacing those guys. Rivier showed a little bit of promise in junior Nick Bean and sophmore Mark Williams but will they be enough to help them have another succesfull year?
On the rise:
Norwich: The Cadets are one of the few teams that return all five of their five leading scorers and all five of them played major roles on the team. The underclassmen heavy team should improve this year with another year of experience under their belt and Sophomore center 6'11" Robert Thurman anchoring the middle for them, one of three players in the conference to be name to a D3 team of the week. The question with Norwich is that other than Thurman no one else on the team is an upper level talent in the conference. They will be better than eigth this year, but how much better will they be without much talent?
Could be a long one:
Mount Ida - Center Otis Thompson has moved on along with a good amount of the squad from last year. Couple that with a below par season last year and thing aren't to promising for the Mustangs. Still senior guard tandem of Darren Martinez and Dave Santos should form a strong backcourt coupled with Sophmore Jerome Bunch. Still with no front court presence, this might not be Mount Ida year. Dave Santos can put points up and in a hurry but will his scoring be enough to carry the Mustangs.
Suffolk: Brian Small graduates and takes hope along with him. Suffolk has struggle in the recent past and this year does not look to be any better for the. Losing their scorer and rebounder hurts them and they do not quite have the depth to replace him. Allan Ray can score in a hurrry and the sharp shooting sophomore Mike Gibbons is a breath of fresh air for them but they just don't have the power. Suffolk always seems to throw a screw ball into everyones gameplans though upseting Lasell last year. Can they turn the upsets into series of wins?
09-10 Pre-Season Picks:
Champ - Emerson
POY - Jeremey Shannon (EME)
ROY - Jefferson Lora (AMC)
1st Team - Robert Thurman (NU), Jeremey Shannon, Bryan Rouse (EME), Ray Eatmon (SJM), Lamonte Thomas (JW)
Any Thought........
Very grateful for your homework on the conference - it would be sweet if some SIDs or coaches would pump some transfer/frosh info into the pipeline. Thanks again.
Quote from: bmull on July 03, 2009, 05:32:21 PM
Very grateful for your homework on the conference - it would be sweet if some SIDs or coaches would pump some transfer/frosh info into the pipeline. Thanks again.
In our part of the country, coaches and SID's don't like revealing that information until the 8th day of the fall semester, when the final day for withdrawing has passed. This is to prevent opposing coaches from stealing the prospects.
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Norwich: The Cadets are one of the few teams that return all five of their five leading scorers and all five of them played major roles on the team. The underclassmen heavy team should improve this year with another year of experience under their belt and Sophomore center 6'11" Robert Thurman anchoring the middle for them, one of three players in the conference to be name to a D3 team of the week. The question with Norwich is that other than Thurman no one else on the team is an upper level talent in the conference. They will be better than eigth this year, but how much better will they be without much talent?
1st Team - Robert Thurman (NU), Jeremey Shannon, Bryan Rouse (EME), Ray Eatmon (SJM), Lamonte Thomas (JW)
Any Thought........
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I've been hearing this kid is TOO good...that he might go D1.....any thoughts?
According to the rumor mill in the San Francisco Bay Area, Robert may have signed with Stanford or Cal Berkeley...... that would be a MAJOR blow to the Cadets chances of anything better than last year... anyone hear something to this affect through GNAC sources?
According to the Antelope Valley Pressor Palmdale, CA, in a full page article on him 15 August, Robert Thurman has signed with UC Berkeley and Coach Montgomery. There was no question of his talent in D3, but we'll have to see how far he can get with 7'3" Max Zheng and a host of other 6'8"+ players. He'll more than likely Red SHirt, since he can't play in D1 without sitting out a year by NCAA rules.
Anyone out there have a reaction from the Cadets or Coach Booth about this?!?
Quote from: TheWord on August 14, 2009, 12:20:18 AM
According to the rumor mill in the San Francisco Bay Area, Robert may have signed with Stanford or Cal Berkeley...... that would be a MAJOR blow to the Cadets chances of anything better than last year... anyone hear something to this affect through GNAC sources?
Here is that article:
http://avc-basketball-fan.spaces.live.com/
They incorrectly state that he received a "scholarship" to play d3 basketball. Maybe he did get a scholarship, but it definitely wasnt for basketball, could have been academic since they emphasize his academics so much in the article. Berkeley is a really nice place, good luck to him.
There appears to be similar information on this board:
http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/f98/robert-thurman-218211/
I was told that 6'5 Cori Boston (Charlestown, MA) who is now entering his senior year will be at Norwich. He previously played at Robert Morris and Merrimack I believe.
Friends Now that players have been back on campus a few weeks, and the frosh are settling in to the college routine, could some SIDs give us the scoop on how things are shaping up for 09-10 - thanks!
Looks like the rich are getting richer. The word is Kyle Kesses has been particapating in offseason workouts and will be playing this season.
Beaner---at what school?
I think he is at Emerson, however, I don't know how that would help Emerson. If I am thinking of the right kid, he is from Connecticut and isn't that good of a player. He is a streaky shooter but can't create his own shot. Remember Emerson lost by over 25 points at home in the playoffs. I think teams in the GNAC will look at that game and really pressure Shannon and not allow him to win games. The secondary players must step up for Emerson to have a good year. If teams pressure Shannon, play physical with Emerson and can force them to play a up and down the court game, I can't see them hosting a game in the playoffs this year.
Beaner, thanks for the pre-season outlook. Wonderful stuff. I just wanted to point out that Albertus will have their best guard coming back this season. Senior guard Young who sat out last year, he is their best point guard, most consistent shooter. You may remember him, he led the team in minutes and was top three scorer for the falcons two years ago. He is also their second best perimeter defender behind Reeves. Albertus has depth, lenght, and talent. Johnson and Wales may be the only team that is as deep as them. It looks like they will play 6 guards and 5 big men regularly. Jefferson Lora if he plays to what is expected may cause a lot of problems for opposining big men in the league.
PJNITO- I saw the kid Kesses play in high school at Amity, before he went off to Choate. You hit it dead on. Cant create, and is a streaky shooter. Still though, Shannon is best player in league. Will be interesting to see how shannon does with Reeves, who gave Shannon fits in the playoff blowout last yr, and now Young guarding him. I do remmeber Young. Very talented PG who fits Oliver's system perfect. Can run the floor, shoot, and play defense. Emerson and Albertus are in for two great games this year. I cant believe im saying this, but Albertus is the most talented team from top to bottom in the GNAC
Albertus Magnus has their 09-10 roster posted. Looks like the first GNAC school to do so. It says 08-09, but the freshmen are all listed at the bottom with their numbers. Looks like a good class to go along with a strong group of returners.
http://www.albertus.edu/athletics/mens-teams/basketball.html
Any thoughts? Has anyone seen any other rosters?
Will Jeremy Shannon be getting looked at for All-American this year?
Quote from: All-around on October 22, 2009, 09:43:29 AM
Will Jeremy Shannon be getting looked at for All-American this year?
He was named preseason honorable mention all-american today, so I would say the answer to your question is "yes".
He should be honored...he is the only representative from the Northeast...congrats
Interesting opener Tuesday night in Boston - NCAA team vs GNAC runner-up.
Anyone??
I saw Suffolk at New England Col today. They looked pretty good, the big kid freshman is a beast. They made a ton of 3's (and apparently made even more the night before). They are 3-0 - a pretty good start after only winning 3 games all year last year.
Friends What should I expect? Bmull
Emmanuel by 10.
I think people need to start giving some credit to Wheelock...So far, they are 4-0 and beat quality teams (WIT, Springfield, UNE, and Emmanuel) and they are off to a pretty good start.. I think Elms will have a competition this year at NECC...
Wheelock does seem to be for real. Good job recruiting.
Wheelock played decent in their league at the end of last year if you look at schedule and I think the game vs Elms in playoffs last year(I think semi finals) was a good game in first half. Judging from box scores Wheelock seems to be doing with returners and none of the new players. They actually have a good shot to start 10-1 with the looks of their schedule. I think it will be tough to beat Gordon at home but every other team is very doable for them. That would be something. Then they would have Becker(who won ECAC last year) and Elms soon after. This year in NE will be very interesting with the early success of Wheelock and Thomas beating some teams from big conferences(all be it the weaker ones but inpressive none the less).
Yes I agree, Wheelock has a chance to go 11-0 or 10-1 before the conference play (Gordon is a tough opponent for everyone, that game will be worth of watch). They beat UNE and Emmanuel without their starting PG, so that is impressive! As BornBalla mentioned, NECC will be interesting to follow this year.
How about Salem State? It seems like they are not off to a good start!
Anyone know why Jeremy Shannon didnt play against Babson? He played 35 minutes in a loss to Brandeis 3 nights before the Babson game. Anyone know if he was injured at the end of the Brandeis game, or something else?
Is Emmanual having a down year or just a rough start. Looks like they have been getting beat up a little.
Any news on Shannon?
Jeremy Shannon did not play vs MIT this week. He was there in sweats; sorry, I don't know if he's injured or why he's not playing. It's a big break for Emerson opponents as long as he's out as Piano Row Gymnasium is tough place to play when he's leading their swarming "Tarkanian" defense and offense
Quote from: T990 on December 04, 2009, 12:58:34 PM
Jeremy Shannon did not play vs MIT this week. He was there in sweats; sorry, I don't know if he's injured or why he's not playing. It's a big break for Emerson opponents as long as he's out as Piano Row Gymnasium is tough place to play when he's leading their swarming "Tarkanian" defense and offense
He did do some warm-up type stuff, though, so it appears as though he may be close to coming back.
Quote from: hugenerd on December 04, 2009, 01:40:43 PM
Quote from: T990 on December 04, 2009, 12:58:34 PM
Jeremy Shannon did not play vs MIT this week. He was there in sweats; sorry, I don't know if he's injured or why he's not playing. It's a big break for Emerson opponents as long as he's out as Piano Row Gymnasium is tough place to play when he's leading their swarming "Tarkanian" defense and offense
He did do some warm-up type stuff, though, so it appears as though he may be close to coming back.
Boy, I hope so. No conference wants the pre-season player of the year and all american mention player injured or missing a lot of games. He changes that team, they are still a good GNAC team, but not great.
GNAC conference play is about to get real good. One coach told me early games don't alway tell you the whole story. Who is playing well and together in late January, that is the dangerous team. Still, I would think you don't want to lose too many early games trying to find out what you have as a team?
Any news on mid year transfers?
Has anyone seen Albertus?
I have seen them. I saw their lost to Western Ct State and their win against Lasell. They are deep, the coach goes with the hot hands late in game. The only two constants are Ray Askew and Bryon Reeves. They will give a lot of teams trouble because of their depth. The freshmen Lora is learning, he should get better by the end of the year. But, he is a beast. They have another freshmen Armstrong who jumps out of the gym and blocked 5 shots in those two games. They are also missing Beckford, power forward, who should return in January. Albertus, should have best front line in GNAC when he returns.
Askew was rookie of year in conference last year. He will be first team conference this year and might get mention for player of year, if Albertus wins enough. The scariest part of this team is that they have one senior (he comes off the bench) and one junior. This team was picked to win the conference playing with all these young guys.
is it Byron Reeves or Walden St Juste for Albertus.
Clealry it seems as if Albertus is the favorite...what is the rankings after AMC? Surprisingly it seems Emmanuel and Lasell may be a little down this year, Emerson is tough to tell until Shannon is back, and Norwich is 5-1.
Quote from: beaner11 on December 07, 2009, 03:50:40 PM
is it Byron Reeves or Walden St Juste for Albertus.
Young is the senior and St. juste is the junior.
Pre-season rankings from thegnac website:
2009 Men's Basketball Preseason Poll
Total
Rank
Team
1. Albertus Magnus 64 points
2. Emerson 63
3. Saint Joseph's (Maine) 62
4. Emmanuel 57
5. Johnson and Wales 38
6. Rivier 34
7. Norwich 30
8. Lasell 27
9. Mount Ida 18
10. Suffolk 12
Shannon appears to be playing against Mount Ida tonight.
Shannon returns to have 22pts, 10 rbs, 6asst in 38 min. Guess he's healthy now. But emerson's Rouse did not play in the game.
GNAC First Semester All-Conference Team
Sure this'll bug somebody...just one basketball junkie's opinion.
First Team:
Raymond Askew - 6'6", So., F, Albertus Magnus – 19.5 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 52% FG, 2.2 bpg
Lamonte Thomas - 6'2", So., G, Johnson & Wales – 24.9 ppg, 50% FG, 2.8 apg, 76% FT, 47% 3FG
Walden St. Juste - 6'1", Jr., G, Albertus Magnus – 20.3 ppg, 77% FT, 3 spg
Tyler Kelley - 6'3", Jr., G, St. Joseph (ME) – 16.5 ppg, 53% FG, 46% 3FG
Darren Martinez - 6'0", Sr., G, Mount Ida – 14.1 ppg, 58% FG, 5.2 apg, 0.9 bpg
Second Team:
Keith Jones - 6'0", So., G, Mount Ida – 19.8 ppg, 87% FT, 1.6 spg, 39% 3FG
Javon Williams - 6'4", So, F, Lasell – 19.9 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 57% FG, 96% FT, 2.4 spg, 1.3 bpg
Matt Pepdjonovic - 6'6", Fr., C, Suffolk – 14.6 ppg, 12.8 rpg, 53% FG, 0.9 bpg
Rashon Jones - 6'3", Jr., F, St. Joseph (ME) – 11 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 72% FG, 3 apg, 1.8 bpg
Antonio Davis - 6'6", So., F, Norwich – 11.1 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 1.1 bpg
Player of the Semester:
Raymond Askew - 6'6", So., F, Albertus Magnus – 19.5 ppg, 11.2 rpg, 52% FG, 2.2 bpg
Newcomer of the Semester:
Keith Jones - 6'0", So., G, Mount Ida – 19.8 ppg, 87% FT, 1.6 spg, 39% 3FG
Coach of the Semester:
Mitch Oliver, Albertus Magnus
leelowlang i have only one major disagreement with you on your first semester all-conference team and that is putting Freshman Matt Pepdjonovic of Suffolk on the 2nd team and not 1st team GNAC. As a Emerson fan i cannot wait to see this young kid face-off vs Rouse. Pepdjonovic is an interesting story. I asked around about this kid, played one year of organized basketball his senior year at Boston College High School, where he came off the bench usually as the 6th man and was learning the game. He was not highly recruited by any means and Suffolk was lucky enough to land him. He's 6'6(probably more like 6'7) has the potential to fill out and be even more of a beast. Saw him play one game vs JWU where he had 18 points and 22 rebounds and seemed unstoppable when he was given the ball in the post. His upside is huge! Very Athletic and smooth at his size and seems like his potential has not been reached yet by any means. He is averaging 15.9 ppg, 12.3 rbg, leads Suffolk in steals,blocks, and fg% and has lead them to a 4-5 record. Good considering they won 3 games last year. I don't believe he is a fluke either, i understand their wins are against lesser opponents but this kid can flat out play. What shocks me is the fact he played one year of basketball and he is already found his game and is dominating at the D3 level. If he stays he will dominate the GNAC for years to come, i would not be surprised if a D2/low D1 school finds out about this kid and scoops him away from Suffolk with a scholarship offer. I'm hoping he does not stick around because Suffolk would have the weapons to be a powerhouse if they can recruit one or two more solid players and as a Emerson fan that would be hard to watch. Good luck to the teams this 2nd semester, watch out for Emerson Shannon is on his way back to team up with Rouse and dominate once again!
Good stuff E-F. Thanks for the info. Look forward to watching his continued development.
Leelow, great job with the mid-season awards. I have just seen a few games this year, but it's nice to know who the top guys are going into next semester (where I will definitely see more games).
Emerson_fanatic, nice job story with the kid from Suffolk. Interesting side note....you mentioned that he was a back up at BC High. Apparently the starting 5 at BC High last year (Colin Halpin, who was their leading scorer), is also headed to Suffolk. I recently heard that he is going to play there second semester. It will be interesting to see how they both play together.
Looking forward to an exciting semester! Good luck to all.
In fairness, Isaiah Duke from Emmanuel should be on that list - he had 30 vs. Albertus and is carrying the reb load in the absence of 2 missing "bigs."
Gnacalum55 do you know whos the better of the two BC high kids? This could make for an interesting tandum for the rams, maybe one can play the 4, the other the 5.
I don't think he can replace Pepdjonovic at the 5 - like you said, that kid is almost a scholarship player. My assumption is that Halpin will play the four. That could be a pretty good combo - Halpin is 6'5 230 - a pretty big 4 for the GNAC.
In honor of 2010 why don't people put out their thoughts on a GNAC all decade team..or something similar. I started watching GNAC play for about 6-7 years now...so would maybe be missing a couple years but there have been some players over the years some that jump out are...
-Rob Hennigan (Emerson)
-Jose Guitan (Lasell)
-Doug Hammond (Southern Vermont)
-Jeremy Shannon (Emerson)
-Jaime Crawford (Lasell)
-John Mcmahon (Rivier)
-Tim Russell (Albertus Magnus)
-Rob Williams-Hinton (Emmanuel)
-Will Dawkins (Emerson)
-Rene Cheatham (Norwich)
-Jeff Carpenter (Rivier)
-John Murphy (Suffolk)
-Jon Godbout (WNEC)
I have only been watching GNAC basketball for a couple of years. I recognize two names on the list. I would love to see what other people think about an all decade team.
Second semester action will begin soon. Some good match-ups the next 10 days.
What about Hensley from Norwich?
Rob Murphy...Rich Glesmann....Steve Georgolius from Emerson
What about Jay "The Birdman" O'Connell for the All Decade Team? I can tell you that he was vital to every team in the GNAC. Granted, he wore an Emerson uniform, but we all know that Bird was good for 7-10 pts for the Lions and probably 10-15 for their opponents. His hilariously shoddy defense was only trumped by his affable smile and generous personality. Not to mention, who made conference play more of a special time than Birdman? As a fan and player in the GNAC for the last 6 years, I can speak from some experience that Jay made the games more fun for everyone; players, coaches, fans, refs, even the PA guys. I think we need to realize that the GNAC team of the decade needs to have the GNAC Person of the decade on it. Clearly William Jay O'Conell isn't going to take any All-GNAC team to the next level on the court. His impact off the court is invaluable, and should probably be recognized, at least on a message board. And really, if it came down to it, he's not terrible at the game. I mean, Kyle Korver and Matt Bonner can play in the NBA, so I'm sure Jay could sit in the corner and drain threes on our All-Decade team.
I'm voting Hank Smith/Sean McCullion in 2012.
Quote from: GnacAlum55 on December 29, 2009, 10:24:11 AM
Leelow, great job with the mid-season awards. I have just seen a few games this year, but it's nice to know who the top guys are going into next semester (where I will definitely see more games).
Emerson_fanatic, nice job story with the kid from Suffolk. Interesting side note....you mentioned that he was a back up at BC High. Apparently the starting 5 at BC High last year (Colin Halpin, who was their leading scorer), is also headed to Suffolk. I recently heard that he is going to play there second semester. It will be interesting to see how they both play together.
Looking forward to an exciting semester! Good luck to all.
When will the kid Colin begin playing for Suffolk?? Is he waiting for the semester to begin or will he play over the weekend?
He played today in Suffolks OT win vs. Lasell. Played 27 minutes with 7 rebounds and 5 points. Pepdjonovic had another big game - 17 points, 12 rebounds.
Emmanuel may be on the road to recovery. 6-7 Andre Fuller has returned bolster the small squad that began the season. Two wins in a row, let's see what happens tomorrow.
That should help. I saw them early in the year. They were scrappy but undersized. Need to put a few more wins together.
They lost to Emerson. Don't know how much retooling they will be doing. On another note...Emerson beat Albertus Magnus (a surprise) ans has now won 5 in a row...looks like it may be St. Joes and Emerson holding the reigns to the league.
Also watch out for Norwich possibly being a sleeper.
It is still very early; and we all know that the teams playing well in mid february are the most dangerous. Right now, teams are just fighting for possible seeding. I would be surprise if it doesn't come down to Emerson and Albertus in the championship game.
Emerson beat Albertus and it was a sloppy game. Very bad officiating. Shannon and Askew missed most of the first half on the bench.. It took away from the game. Emerson got to every lose ball and ran their offense well. But, not as efficient as usual. Albertus had a tough time with Emerson's perimeter defense. The game was ok, but not great because the best players missed significant minutes.
Albertus just beat St. Joe's in Maine. I think top two teams by far are Emerson and Albertus. Let's see if they can make it to the finals.
Does no one appreciate the merits of a "team player" on the All-GNAC team? I am surprised....and a little disappointed at the lack of responses to my All-GNAC team nomination.
Worse,
I am sorry I don't know who the birdman is. I can't comment too much on an all-decade team.
I have found it interesting to see how things have changed in the GNAC. Lasell and Emmanuel are at the bottom of the pack. There doesn't seem to be any dominant teams this year.
Also find it interesting to see Pre-Season all american Shannon only averaging 12 or 13ppg compared to his #'s last year (he had a couple 30 point games last year).
Will also be interesting to see how good Askew ends up being after 4 years.
I don't think you can say that Lasell is at the "bottom of the pack" or even compare them to Emmanuel, who have been horrible this year. Lasell might not be as strong and dominate has they were in previous years, but they are going to surprise a few teams come tournament time.
There are no dominant teams yet. Remember there is still a lot of basketball left to play. I think the top two teams are Emerson and Albertus. Followed by this group: St. Joseph, Norwich, and Lasell. The middle teams are Mt. Ida and Johnson and Wales. However, Rivier, Emmanuel, and Suffolk can still make a playoff push. Suffolk is very improved. Rivier and Emmanuel have fallen quickly. It should be fun to see which teams will make a run for the remaining three playoff spots. It will also be fun to see fights for seeding.
In fairness to Shannon, he has not been 100% healthy all year long. If he is, he is one of the best players in the league and region. Teams in the GNAC are also not allowing him to take over a game early. But, Shannon has been doing other things.
Askew is solid. He plays bigger than what he is. He can get to the basket whenever he wants. He will get consideration for player of the year if he continues playing the way he is.
Does anyone know how GNAC players of the week are selected? Is it a vote or does someone look at the stats?
Two weeks ago Bryan Rouse from Emerson got the GNAC player of the week award, but I don't know if he had the best week. He is a nice player and had a good week. Here are his number: Points (46/23.00 per game), Rebounds (16/8.00 per game), Assists (2/1.00 per game), He also shot 56% from the field and his team went 2 - 0. Winning at home against JW and Norwich. Good week.
But, Ray Askew week was better. Here are his numbers Points (57/28.5 per game), Rebounds (17/ 8.5 per game) Assists (2/1.00 per game), He shot 61% from the field. His team won at St. Joe's (he had 30 and 17) and home against Suffolk. I don't think there is any question who had a better week.
Thoughts?
I'm surprised every week that Isaiah Duke from Emmanuel hasn't been recognized - he's had some great games, unfortunately during a bad season. Who does the picking?
I don't know who does the picking. It is kind of weird to many. It seems like it goes to certain guys every week.
Well, playoffs are coming. Should be fun...
Looks like a 3 legged race between Albertus, Emerson and St. Joe's should be an interesting playoff
First round action happened yesterday:
Albertus beats Rivier
Emerson beats Norwich
Lasell beats St. Joes (OT)
Johnson and Wales beats Mt. Ida
(5) JWU at (1) Albertus - Thursday night at 7
(6) Lasell at (2) Emerson - Thursday night at 7
Both of these games should be close. Good match-ups! JWU and Albertus are both very athletic and they score a lot of points when they meet. Emerson and Lasell both play very solid defense, Emerson has the two senior horses, but Lasell has confidence...
I still believe it will be an Albertus/Emerson final, but thats why they play the game.
Thursday will in fact be an interesting night, hoping for the two top seeds to come up on top for a 1 v 2 final. Emerson vs albertus is interesting unfortunatley for me i feel like emerson cant matchup with albertus, but anything is possible when shannon is on the court! Askew is great and his athleticism would be tough to stop, hoping he recieves player of the year i think he deserves it after the year he had.
Emerson_fanatic.... You called it.
Albertus vs Emerson on Saturday at 1 in New Haven. These are the best two teams in the GNAC. It is appropriate that the finals include them. They split the season series. Emerson winning by 1 in New Haven. Albertus winning by 2 in Boston. Last year, Albertus beat Emerson by double-digits in the playoff. I know Shannon and Rousse remember that. Emerson's coach is the best in the GNAC. He will make adjustments. It will be a great game. Can Lora/Askew stay on the court for the falcons? If they can, they should win. If not, Emerson will.
Albertus wins it first ever GNAC men's basketball championship beating Emerson on Saturday, 85-69. It was a great day for the falcons! Mitch Oliver was named coach of the year and Ray Askew player of the year the night before. The falcons used a 14-0 run late in the first half to spark the crowd. They led by 10 at the half and by at least 8 the rest of the way. Albertus will now play William Patterson (25-2) in the NCAA tournament. Albertus will be a huge underdog, but this berth might help them with late season recruting and improving a team that returns 11 players, including the five starters.
That is incorrect - Albertus won the 1st ever GNAC in 1995-96 - also in New Haven, also vs. Emerson.
That's 10 Finals in 15 years of the GNAC for Emerson, quite an impressive feat considering they've only had a home gym for the last four seasons....but just another reason why coach smith is top shelf.
congrats to shannon and rouse on their excellent careers.
Sorry, I was told that Albertus won the soccer championship in 95-96, the first ever championship given in the GNAC. But, they have never won a basketball GNAC. I will double check my sources.
Thanks goldenpipes.
Albertus won the basketball GNAC championship in 1995-96, both regular season (tied) and conference tourney:
http://www.thegnac.com/sports/mbkb/Archives/1996_Season_Summary.pdf
Good stuff guys. This is why I check D3hoops everyday. You guys should work as the SIDs at Albertus. lol.
Thanks for the correction and I appreciate the knowledge.
Albertus makes a shot behind half court to win at buzzer, 59-57!
Quote from: hugenerd on March 05, 2010, 10:26:01 PM
Albertus makes a shot behind half court to win at buzzer, 59-57!
That is a huge win over a team many thought had a chance to go deep into the tournament.
Albertus showed up a year or two early. They have a very young team - this experience will make them very dangerous next year. Ray Askew got his numbers even against a very strong defensive team.
Magnus knocks off the #7 team at their gym. One of the most incredible finishes to a game you'll ever see at any level!
would like to see the d3hoops people put the buzzer beater replay on the front page.....
Me too. Unfortunately we are not allowed to post from the broadcast feed by NCAA rules.
Our shot was blocked by fans standing in front of the camera. There is video from a cameraman on the floor -- we hope to get access to that and be able to post it.
Awesome. If you get the camera shot from the baseline, where will you put it up?
Albertus has confidence and matches up well against DeSales. Should be a great game!! Go Falcons!!
Hope the GNAC gets more respect.
Quote from: pjunito on March 06, 2010, 06:05:14 PM
Awesome. If you get the camera shot from the baseline, where will you put it up?
Albertus has confidence and matches up well against DeSales. Should be a great game!! Go Falcons!!
Hope the GNAC gets more respect.
Albertus' athletic bigs could give DeSales trouble. I like them in tonight's matchup, unless Darnell Braswell goes nuts. Should be fun to watch.
DeSales up 18 at the half.
DeSales is up by about 40 with about 5 minutes to go in the game. Albertus Magnus cannot come up with a miracle two nights in a row.
Desales was a much better team than Albertus on Saturday night. They shot the ball very well and outhustled Albertus to every ball. They also held Albertus to a season low in point and field goal pct.
Albertus had a very good year and is returning 5 starters. Hopefully, the win on Friday night, gives the GNAC a little more respect.
Quote from: pjunito on March 06, 2010, 06:05:14 PM
Awesome. If you get the camera shot from the baseline, where will you put it up?
Albertus has confidence and matches up well against DeSales. Should be a great game!! Go Falcons!!
Hope the GNAC gets more respect.
Front page of D3hoops.com, now.
Pat Coleman! You are awesome!
What a shot and what a good job by the camera person.
The Albertus Magnus buzzer beater just made ESPN SportsCenter tonight. It was shown just now at around 6:58 PM Eastern just before they went to the UConn women's basketball game. It was SportsCenter's closing highlight-- noted that Albertus Magnus then lost to DeSales by 33 points in the second round.
yall better watch norich this yr ,,got sum new people comin in ...they could take the ring this yr
http://www.youtube.com/user/marinatedfreak
For his accomplishments at Norwich his trophy was never awarded to him, how lame is that? ANy idea if Booth ever got over this loss? Positive responses on this kid at the Newell Camp this year....
How is everybody doing? Alot of stuff must have happened in the league. Does anyone have a preview and/or a recruiting review?
who are the top dogs this year? Albertus certainly at the top, how does everyone else shape up? AND has anyone heard if Emerson has any new pieces after huge losses with rouse and shannon?
Quote from: Emerson_fanatic on October 03, 2010, 11:20:10 PM
who are the top dogs this year? Albertus certainly at the top, how does everyone else shape up? AND has anyone heard if Emerson has any new pieces after huge losses with rouse and shannon?
Shannon & Rouse are huge losses as they combined for 34.3 ppg, 12.5 rpg and ~7 apg. I'd expect Tom Messinger to step up and more than double his ppg total from last year of 8.0. He took 155 3pt shots at a 44% clip...that's warrants attention in any conference. If his team can get him the ball in good situations then he should be able to replace at least one of the two graduated top scorers.
Friends Could you give a shout-out if a 10-11 roster gets posted? Thanks!
Basketball officially begins tomorrow. I am sure that rosters will be updated on most athletic websites by the end of the month. It should be a fun year. I will also look to see if the GNAC does a conference preview.
Anyone know why only 7 min from Lora and no Askew in the Albertus/CGA game last night?
Really surprised with the preseason rankings. I expected Albertus to be ranked number 1, but shocked that Lasell didn't even make the top 8. Anyone else surprised by that?
I guess I'm not too surprised that Lasell is not in the top 8. They lost their conference opener to Suffolk at home. I am more surprised at Emerson being picked so high after losing Shannon and Rouse. I know they always play hard, but those are major losses for the Lions.
What's going on in the GNAC this season? There are some good wins and bad losses overall, but has anyone seen the teams play? Albertus has had only 2 games, how did they look? Emerson got a quality win over Babson, how do they look without Shannon and Rouse? Riv beat Colby-Sawyer, not a bad start. Good to see Suffolk is back; haven't seen that name atop the GNAC standings in a few years. Any big games coming up?
Quote from: leelowlang on November 18, 2010, 01:45:32 PM
Anyone know why only 7 min from Lora and no Askew in the Albertus/CGA game last night?
Askew did not play in the first game. Coaches decision.... Lora wasn't feeling well.
Quote from: Mayor LISA on November 30, 2010, 10:10:14 AM
What's going on in the GNAC this season? There are some good wins and bad losses overall, but has anyone seen the teams play? Albertus has had only 2 games, how did they look? Emerson got a quality win over Babson, how do they look without Shannon and Rouse? Riv beat Colby-Sawyer, not a bad start. Good to see Suffolk is back; haven't seen that name atop the GNAC standings in a few years. Any big games coming up?
I saw Albertus on Sunday. They beat a very athletic becker team. Albertus can score; they have 7 players who can put up double digit points. Askew will be mentioned for player of the year again because he can score inside and out. They got bigger in the front court by adding Watson. Lora looks like he lost 10 pounds and is in better condition. Everyone will be gunning for Albertus this year. Should be some very good game. If Albertus can defend the way they did at the end of last year, they should be in the top 3 again this year. They lost one player from last year's team, this team is more experienced. Now they start 1 senior, 3 juniors, and a sophomore. They also have 3 sophomores and a freshmen on their bench rotation.
I would love to hear what else is going on in the GNAC.
Anyone know what happened with Rivier and Norwich last night? Game was listed on their schedules, but I couldn't find a result.
The game got supspended due to condition floor conditions. There was a leak in the roof.
http://www.norwichathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/Hockenbury_12-04-10
Congrats Cadets :)
anyone know when it's rescheduled for?
Quote from: bballer500 on December 05, 2010, 02:23:26 PM
anyone know when it's rescheduled for?
Dec 12th @Rivier 1:00 PM
http://www.norwichathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/Hockenbury_12-05-10
Norwich 2 straight won Ed Hockenbury Championship!
MVP
Ryan Williams Norwich
All tourney
Orlando Holmes University of Maine - Augusta
Rob Key Johnson State College
Corey Willis Colby-Sawyer College
Antonio Davis Norwich University
mid season reports?
To no surprise albertus is on top the gnac, anyone see someone challenging them? johnson and wales and st joes look like they have the best chance, but i feel like emerson and coach smith always need to be feared
GNAC First Semester All-Conference Team
Just one basketball junkie's opinion...
Player of the Semester:
Ray Askew - 6'6", Jr., F, Albertus Magnus - 23.4 ppg, 13.4 rpg, 2.4 apg, 51% FG, 69% FT, 2.8 bpg
Coach of the Semester:
Rob Sanicola - St. Joseph's (Maine)
Newcomer of the Semester:
Darius Watson - 6'5", Fr., F, Albertus Magnus - 16.0 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 48% FG, 37% 3FG, 73% FT
First Team:
Ray Askew - 6'6", Jr., F, Albertus Magnus - 23.4 ppg, 13.4 rpg, 2.4 apg, 51% FG, 69% FT, 2.8 bpg
Tyler Kelley - 6'3", Sr., G, St. Joseph's - 17.4 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 2.2 apg, 53% FG, 46% 3FG, 100% FT, 1.3 spg
Zach O'Brien - 6'4", Jr., G/F, St. Joseph's - 14.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 5.2 apg, 43% FG, 53% 3FG, 77% FT, 1.2 spg
Don Poitras - 6'8", Sr, C, Rivier - 18.5 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 62% FG, 91% FT, 1.3 spg, 2.3 bpg
Lamonte Thomas - 6'2", Jr., G, Johnson & Wales - 25.8 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 4.6 apg, 50% FG, 40% 3FG, 83% FT, 1.6 spg
Second Team:
Colin Halpin - 6'4", So., F, Suffolk - 18.1 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 2.1 apg, 57% FG, 36% 3FG, 86% FT
Chris Petzy - 6'0", Jr., G, St. Joseph's - 17.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 46% FG, 44% 3FG, 79% FT, 1.2 spg
Matt Pepdjonovic - 6'7", So., C, Suffolk - 17.5 ppg, 12.8 rpg, 2.0 apg, 55% FG, 1.8 bpg
Walden St. Juste - 6'1", Sr., G, Albertus Magnus - 16.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.1 apg, 35% 3FG, 83% FT, 3.0 spg
Javon Williams - 6'4", Jr., G, Lasell - 18.3 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 48% FG, 3.3 spg, 1.3 bpg
Albertus is getting more talent for the coming semester, they apparently have a scholarship level player coming in (from D2, St. Anselm), Zack Dugas:
http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1765/Commitment-CatchUp.php
i like that you put zack obrien on first team, i feel like the teams are two points based. obrien does ALOT for st joes and i believe he is by far their best player.
Albertus with another pick up is scary! Watson seems to be a monster in his own right now throw in a scholarship pg with lora, askew, and st. juste along with depth off the bench.
early season surprise suffolk defeats st. joes (who i thought was the clear cut challenger to albertus) this is going to be an exciting second semester, will be interesting what teams will make big jumps in the gnac this year. Im going to keep going - Emerson playing well as a team with no sure fire go to guy's , johnson & wales handles rivier with their run n gun style of play. Cant wait for january to roll around
I haven't been able to see many games this season, but so far it seems like there's a lot of parity in the GNAC. Albertus has played some tough teams, but I expected their record to be better than it is. Suffolk beat St. Joe's - did anyone see that one? What happened? Is Suffolk for real or did St. Joe's not show up? Any changes from the beginning of the season on what we can expect to see through league play?
Hank Smith resigns at Emerson - what is going on? Does anyone have the real scoop? Seems crazy to me. He was a good coach who got his players to play hard! I played against his teams for 4 years, and never had 40 minutes of someone in my face like his teams would do.
Be careful here, Emerson Athletics Department. To me, this situation looks so much like the Brandeis softball situation when Brandeis Athletic Director Sheryl Sousa let go of former Brandeis softball coach Mary Sullivan out of the blue and hired a younger coach to replace her. Yes, Brandeis softball did reach the NCAA tournament under the coach that was hired to replace coach Sullivan last season, but Brandeis Athletics got hit with an age discrimination complaint of which the Mass Commission Against Discrimination found probable cause. I still don't know what if the MCAD complaint/lawsuit has been finally disposed of-- but Brandeis definitely could have handled the situation with former coach Sullivan much better, and I am afraid that Emerson Athletics is about to make the same mistake with the basketball situation that Brandeis did with the softball situation.
I do hope that Emerson did not think that Hank Smith was too old to coach basketball, but my inner gut is telling me that this is the current reason that Hank Smith was let go. This is an outrage if that is the reason.
Quote from: GnacAlum55 on January 22, 2011, 09:20:21 AM
Hank Smith resigns at Emerson - what is going on? Does anyone have the real scoop? Seems crazy to me. He was a good coach who got his players to play hard! I played against his teams for 4 years, and never had 40 minutes of someone in my face like his teams would do.
Our story has a little more, including a link to the school newspaper report.
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2011/01/emerson-coach-resigns
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2011, 11:40:34 AM
Quote from: GnacAlum55 on January 22, 2011, 09:20:21 AM
Hank Smith resigns at Emerson - what is going on? Does anyone have the real scoop? Seems crazy to me. He was a good coach who got his players to play hard! I played against his teams for 4 years, and never had 40 minutes of someone in my face like his teams would do.
Our story has a little more, including a link to the school newspaper report.
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2011/01/emerson-coach-resigns
This is really odd. I've seen coaches forced out, but this seems like there's more to it, or they're being needlessly cryptic.
Word around the league is that Coach Smith was forced out (which if true...is ridiculous). From the grumblings I've heard and been told i there may have been some tension within the Athletic Department. Also to be noted that word was that Emersons AD (who has been there maybe 3-5 years...not sure when she took over) has a terrible reputation and has fired or "forced out" a good handful of coaches from other departments since she took over. Hopefully the story will break soon...your previous posts' and the newspaper definitely make you think something else is going on
Quote from: All-around on January 22, 2011, 04:38:18 PM
Word around the league is that Coach Smith was forced out (which if true...is ridiculous).
Depends on why.
Some great commentary on the Smith "resignation" on the campus newspaper's story:
http://www.berkeleybeacon.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticle&ustory_id=dec6b422-a924-44fa-a0e3-e6d17d6edb8e
Good for all of Coach Smith's former players for commenting on the article. Great to hear all of the positive comments about the impact that he had on their lives. Sounds like Emerson lost more than just a coach here. Good luck to the current Lions, I hope they finish the season strong!
The comments on that article are very touching. Coach Smith should be proud of that.
St. Joe's is playing very good basketball. They have strong shooters and rebound very well. They also have a couple of players who are winners. They will be tough to beat this year. JWU is very athletic and gives match-up problems to a lot of GNAC teams. Albertus is struggling to find their way, they added a few players for the second semester. The players are talented but can they fit into the system before conference tournament begins? I think one of these three teams will make a good run during the GNACs and in the NCAAs. IF JWU or Albertus wins conference, I can see St. Joe getting an at large. They have a good body of work and are talented.
Coach Smith is one of those coaches who got the most out of his team. I think Emerson reallys falls off this year. I feel bad for the kids, because they only live this experience once. I hope they can come together, but it looks like they will have a rough finish to their season.
PS. Kelly from St. Joes is a player!
First Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/02/ncaas-mens-regional-rankings/
As you can see from the first week's regional rankings, it looks like the GNAC is only going to send the winner of the conference tournament to the NCAAs this season, as no GNAC men's team is regionally ranked in the Feb. 2 regional rankings.
The Monks look to be the favorite to win the GNAC men's tournament at this stage, but they have three tough games coming up-- a home date vs Suffolk-- the Rams were the only team so far to defeat the Monks in GNAC play this season when St. Joe's went to the Regan Gym in Boston. St. Joe's will look to avenge that loss in Standish, Maine before St. Joe's has two tough road games coming up at Norwich and Johnson & Wales. If the Monks win these next 3 games, then St. Joe's will be in good shape to get the #1 seed for the GNAC tournament.
I don't know about you all but i thought that was an interesting week of games. Frirst off, the storm cancelled all the tuesday games so the conference is really unbalanced when it comes to records because half the league played mondy. Emerson continues to be an enigma as they beat teams they shouldn't but lose to teams they should beat, but I don't think they are the same team with out coach smith. I think he brought them together. Does anyone know what is going on with Albertus. Watson all of a sudden disappeared an Lora didn't even play last game. They have so much talent but something has to turn around from them. The battle for the top two may be interesting. I think Johnson and Wales may have the advantage with St Joes losing to a middle of the road Norwich team Saturday. Either way I think that the leagues still goes through those top three teams. Just noticing that Emmanuel is picking things up though. The higher seeded teams may not want to see them come playoff time. Any other thoughts?
PS Did anyone see the Lamonte vs Javon Showdown at Lasell?
Curious of the posters thoughts of who is the league's best:
Best Team:
Best Coach:
Best Player:
Best Point Guard:
Best Low-Post Scorer:
Best Shooter:
Best Dunker:
Best Defender:
Final score from Providence Feb. 8, 2011
Johnson & Wales 106, St. Joe's Maine 90
I caught the last 4 min of the game via John Parente's audiocast from the Harborside Recreation and Athletic Center (a/k/a Harborside RAC)
DIII's leading scorer, Lamonte Thomas, led JWU tonight with 28 pts. Thomas fell 1 rebound shy of a triple-double.
According to Parente, JWU put 7 players in double figures tonight. Player of the night for the Wildcats was Santino Cinotti, who came off the bench late to sink 4-4 from 3 pt land in 6 min of action-- breaking an 85-85 tie in the process.
(Box score confirms the 7 JWU players in double figures. Johnson & Wales sank 11-16 from 3 pt range in the second half of the game.)
For the Wildcats:
Lamonte Thomas-- 28 pts
Calvin Jones-- 17 pts
Darren Faust, Santino Cinotti, and Mike Harris had 12 points each.
Louis Ferreras had 11 pts
James Folk had 10 pts.
JWU takes the lead in the GNAC with an 11-2 record in GNAC play, while St. Joe's drops to 12-3 in GNAC play.
JWU went 38 of 68 from the field for the game, 13 of 27 from 3 pt land, and 17 of 18 from the charity stripe.
St. Joe's Maine went 30 of 60 from the field for the game, 7 of 18 from 3 pt land, and 23 of 27 from the FT Line.
For the St. Joe's Monks, only 3 players scored in double figures tonight. Zach O' Brien had 28 pts for the Monks, while Tyler Kelley had 15 pts and Anthony Savino had 10 pts.
Update: Here is the link to the recap of the game:
http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/20110208i4ed5i (http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/20110208i4ed5i)
Emerson got a mention on TotalProSports.com:
LA Lakers Greeted By Taunts From Emerson College Student (http://www.totalprosports.com/2011/02/10/la-lakers-greeted-by-taunts-from-emerson-college-student-video)
OxyBob
Quote from: OxyBob on February 11, 2011, 09:24:06 AM
Emerson got a mention on TotalProSports.com:
LA Lakers Greeted By Taunts From Emerson College Student (http://www.totalprosports.com/2011/02/10/la-lakers-greeted-by-taunts-from-emerson-college-student-video)
OxyBob
Classy.
I like the ads below the UTube entry.
Week 3 Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/16/ncaa-2011-regional-rankings-week-3/
Congratulations to St. Joe's Maine junior Zach O'Brien on becoming the 34th Monk to score 1,000 career points and only the 12th Monk to do so in his junior campaign.
Zach O'Brien accomplished the milestone with 15:15 remaining in the game at Rivier College on Tuesday, Feb. 17 when he hit an uncontested jumpshot.
Zach O'Brien joins Monk senior classmate Tyler Kelley in the Monks's 1,000 point club. It is only the 8th time in program history that the Monks have had 2 players reach their 1,000th career college point in the same season.
St. Joe's release on the feat is at: http://www.gomonks.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/20110215gwui1y (http://www.gomonks.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/20110215gwui1y)
With the victory at Rivier on Tuesday, St. Joe's Maine, at 14-3 in the GNAC, has clinched the #1 seed in the upcoming GNAC tournament for the first time in program history. (Even if there is a 3 way tie for first at 14-4 in GNAC play between St. Joe's, Albertus Magnus, and Johnson & Wales at the end of play on Saturday, the Monks clinched the tiebreaker with a best 3-1 head to head record vs Albertus Magnus and Johnson & Wales-- 2-0 sweep vs Albertus, 1-1 split vs JWU.) The Monks will host a quarterfinal game on Tuesday, opponent TBD.
St. Joe's Maine is 3-1 lifetime in GNAC tournament games played on their home floor in Standish, Maine -- (The Monks won the 2008-2009 GNAC Tournament as a #3 seed with 3 straight home victories-- defeating Emmanuel by 2 points in the title game, but lost at home to Lasell in last year's GNAC Tournament Quarterfinal game.)
Since the GNAC is only going to send 1 team to the NCAAs, I took a look at the ECAC New England teams declared list this morning-- it is shown after the ECAC Metro declared teams, so you may have to scan down the pages a bit:
Up to date list of teams that have declared that they wish to be considered for ECAC selection if they do not make it to NCAAs. (http://static.psbin.com/a/t/b9sj9nylbwcqh8/Declared_Teams_M_Bskb.pdf)
I see that the GNAC teams on the list are Johnson & Wales, Rivier, Suffolk, Norwich, and Albertus Magnus.
Suffolk will not be eligible for ECAC selection as they will finish under .500, and Rivier could finish under .500 as well, so I don't see those two making the field for the ECAC New England Tournament.
I would not be surprised if JWU, Albertus, and Norwich all make it into the ECACs if they do not win next week's GNAC tournament-- with Norwich being the team left out if only two GNAC teams from the list make it into the field.
Of those three teams, Johnson & Wales would be travelling as a road team in the ECAC tournament regardless of how they would be seeded (JWU declared that their facilities would not be available to host that week), while Norwich and Albertus Magnus have declared that they can host ECAC tournament games.
Of course, while St. Joe's Maine is the top seed for the GNAC tournament, that does not guarantee that the Monks will win the tournament. While St. Joe's is 3-1 lifetime in GNAC tournament games played on their floor, the home regular season contests that the Monks had vs JWU, Albertus, and Norwich all went down to the final minute, so this GNAC tournament will be exciting and I would not be surprised if the Monks got upset on their home floor next week. That being said, I am surprised that St. Joe's Maine has not declared for the ECAC just as an insurance policy-- unless the athletic department at St. Joe's does not have the budget to pay for ECAC tournament expenses this season. (ECAC is a "pay as you go" tournament-- where each school in the field pays their share of the costs to either host or travel.-- that is why schools have to declare to the ECAC that they wish to be considered.)
Halftime from Providence, RI--
#2 seed Johnson & Wales 45, #7 seed Suffolk 30
Halftime from Standish, ME---
#1 seed St. Joe's Maine 45, #8 seed Mt. Ida 33
Game reset from Andrews Hall, Northfield, VT
#4 seed Norwich 14, #5 seed Emerson 9 8:10 left in first half.
No live stats from Albertus Magnus, unfortunately.... :(
Halftime from Northfield, VT--
#4 seed Norwich 26, #5 seed Emerson 24
Second half Game resets--
#1 seed St. Joe's Maine 69, #8 seed Mt. Ida 52 7:47 left in regulation
#4 seed Norwich 41, #5 seed Emerson 28 12:07 left in regulation
#1 seed St. Joe's Maine 80, #8 seed Mt. Ida 66 2:47 left in regulation
#4 seed Norwich 47, #5 seed Emerson 35 6:23 left in regulation.
#4 seed Norwich 52, #5 seed Emerson 38 2:48 left in regulation.
#4 seed Norwich 60, #5 seed Emerson 44 0:44 left in regulation.
Final scores from the GNAC Quarterfinal games-- Tuesday, Feb. 22, 2011
#2 seed Johnson & Wales 96, #7 seed Suffolk 63
#1 seed St. Joe's Maine 82, #8 seed Mt. Ida 71
#4 seed Norwich 62, #5 seed Emerson 44
#3 seed Albertus Magnus 100, #6 seed Rivier 82
GNAC Semifinals-- Thursday, Feb. 24, 2011
#4 seed Norwich @ #1 seed St. Joe's Maine
#3 seed Albertus Magnus @ #2 seed Johnson & Wales
Final Regional Rankings are out before Selection Sunday: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/category/ncaa-stuff/regional-rankings/
Final scores from the GNAC Semifinal games-- Thursday, Feb. 24, 2011
#2 seed Johnson & Wales 128 , #3 seed Albertus Magnus 107
#1 seed St. Joe's Maine 72 , #4 seed Norwich 56
GNAC Championship game -- Saturday, Feb. 26, 2011
#2 seed Johnson & Wales @ #1 seed St. Joe's Maine
Johnson & Wales's Men's Basketball Posts a 128-107 Win over Albertus Magnus in GNAC Semifinals
http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/201102244dfcjr (http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/201102244dfcjr)
Box score: http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/files/jwuamcgs.htm (http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/files/jwuamcgs.htm)
128 Points scored by Johnson & Wales is a new GNAC single game team record.
JWU shot 43 of 57 from field for a 75.4% FG pct on the evening-- New GNAC Tournament single game record.
JWU junior Lamonte Thomas had a double-double of 40 points and 20 assists-- the 20 assists for the game is a new single game GNAC individual record.
Lamonte Thomas got his 40 pts last night on 11-15 from the field shooting, 0-2 from 3 pt land, 18-20 from the charity stripe.
Lamonte Thomas comes into the GNAC title game averaging 30.1 PPG,-- 31.4 PPG in GNAC play-- the 30.1 PPG leads DIII in scoring.
On January 30, 2011, the Providence Journal, the city newspaper of Providence, RI, did a feature article on JWU's Lamonte Thomas, who leads DIII in average PPG:
Bill Reynolds: Basketball World is Finally Getting to Know J&W's Thomas:
http://www.projo.com/sports/billreynolds/reynolds_lamonte_thomas_01-30-11_Q6M7T72_v4.c0616f.html (http://www.projo.com/sports/billreynolds/reynolds_lamonte_thomas_01-30-11_Q6M7T72_v4.c0616f.html)
On the GNAC title game:
I have to go with Johnson & Wales as a road favorite to beat St. Joe's Maine tomorrow and clinch the NCAA bid out of GNAC due to that performance last night.
The GNAC made the right decision in choosing Lamonte Thomas as GNAC Player of the Year. I would have loved to see Brandeis play Johnson & Wales next week in the ECAC New England Tournament, but JWU certainly has higher aspirations in mind, and I think that the Wildcats will get the victory in Maine tomorrow. St. Joe's was fortunate to escape in December with a double OT victory-- the Monks won't be so fortunate tomorrow, IMO.
If JWU wins tomorrow, we could have another storybook first round NCAA game like what Albertus Magnus did last season-- Lamonte Thomas definitely is a player who, despite his stats, is one that has been playing under the radar in DIII all this season due to the fact that there are so many conference games in the GNAC. Hopefully, DIII will get to know a little more about this player next week in the NCAA Tournament.
Did I heard the boxscore right yesterday that said JWU shot 75% from the field?? I'd have to agree, I pegged the JWU/Albertus winner to end up winning the tournament, think either one of them would beat the Monks on the road.
Preview of the GNAC Title Game-- (St. Joe's Maine game notes)
Monks and Wildcats Set to Clash in 2011 GNAC Championship
http://www.gomonks.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/201102257q6mvn (http://www.gomonks.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/201102257q6mvn)
Note: As the St. Joe's Maine press release shows, JWU's Lamonte Thomas's 30.3 PPG going into the GNAC title game not only leads NCAA DIII men's hoop, it leads in all 3 divisions of NCAA men's basketball.
Final of GNAC title game--
Johnson & Wales 76, St. Joe's Maine 66
Johnson & Wales wins GNAC Tournament-- clinches automatic bid to NCAA DIII Tournament
Lamonte Thomas of Johnson & Wales: 33 pts on 12-15 shooting from the field, 0-0 from 3 pt land, 9-11 from the charity stripe.
Lamonte Thomas also had 7 rebounds and 6 assists in the GNAC title game.
Great stuff! Awesome articles and updates. Lamonte is a player and has a strong supporting unit. They didn't miss a shot against Albertus. How do they fair in the NCAAs?
On last night's edition of Hoopsville (a/k/a March 3, 2011 edition), Dave 'd-mac' McHugh talked with Hoopsville Atlantic Region Reporter Jody King, who along with Frank Rossi will be doing internet coverage of this weekend's Ramapo pod.
The segment starts at the 1 hour 39 min mark, and the game between Ramapo and Johnson & Wales was previewed starting at around the 1 hour 41 min mark thereabouts. The March 3, 2011 edition of Hoopsville can be found at:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13069967 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13069967)
Just for reference--Information courtesy of March 3, 2011 edition of Hoopsville--
GNAC men are 3-10 in NCAA Basketball tournament play over the past 10 years.
1.) S. Vermont went 1-1 in the NCAA tournament in the 2002-2003 season-- defeating Lasell in the first round of the March, 2003 NCAA DIII basketball tournament, and losing at Amherst in the second round. Lasell was a Pool B selection to that tournament, as I believe that the North Atlantic Conference, of which Lasell was a member at that time, was not yet eligible for an automatic bid to the NCAAs. S. Vermont was a member of GNAC at the time-- this was when Ryan Marks was the coach at S. Vermont, and current Hoopsville Atlantic Region Reporter Jody King was a S. Vermont assistant coach.
2.) Norwich won a first round game in the March, 2006 NCAA DIII tournament before bowing in the second round. Norwich's first round game was a Thursday first round game vs Elms that was played at Andrews Hall on the Norwich campus. The Cadets beat Elms before travelling to St. John Fisher for the Saturday second round game, where they lost and bowed out of the tournament.
3.) In last year's tournament, Albertus Magnus shocked #7 William Paterson in the first round on Byron Reaves's "buzzer-beater" shot that made it to ESPN's SportsCenter a few days later. The Falcons lost their second round game to DeSales.
4.) Johnson & Wales last made it to the NCAA tournament in March, 2004-- losing to Salem St. in the first round.
I found the conversation between Dave 'd-mac' McHugh and Jody King previewing the JWU/Ramapo game on Hoopsville worthy of a listen.
Just for my take on this, I have Ramapo winning tonight-- but that is why "storybook" games happen-- these are the type of games that you least expect to happen. It is possible that Lamonte Thomas can carry JWU to a first round win-- but if that happens, that is it-- I do not expect the Wildcats to make it to the Sweet 16.
Lamonte Thomas, 6'2", Jr. has just been sensational...are you kidding me with these numbers?
Tonight: NCAA 1st Round - J&W 114, Ramapo 106 (OT) - 43 pts, 9 asts, 7 rebs, 5 stls, 15-30 FG, 5-9 3FG
2/26: GNAC Final - J&W 76, St. Joe's 66 - 33 pts, 7 rebs, 6 asts, 2 to's, 12-15 FG, 9-11 FT
2/24: GNAC Semi - J&W 128, Albertus 107 - 40 pts, 20 asts, 5 to's, 6 rebs, 11-15 FG, 18-20 FT
2/22: GNAC Qtr - J&W 96, Suffolk 63 - 33 pts, 8 rebs, 4 asts, 3 stls, 10-19 FG, 4-6 3FG, 9-12 FT
2/19: GNAC Finale - J&W 91, Emmanuel 81 - 37 pts, 11 rebs, 2 asts, 11-19 FG, 14-15 FT
Last 5 Games:
5-0, a NCAA win, a GNAC 'Chip, 4 playoff games, and an opponent Senior Day
37.2 ppg, 8.2 apg, 7.8 rpg, 59-98(60%)FG, 58-70(83%)FT, 14 FTA/g, 10-20(50%)3FG, 2.2/1 A/TO, 39.4 mpg
Otherwordly...just ridiculous.
Here is Johnson & Wales's recap of the game vs. Ramapo:
Men's Basketball Knocks Off Ramapo, 114-106, in First Round of NCAA Tournament
http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/20110304e1p4x7 (http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2010-11/releases/20110304e1p4x7)
The victory last night was the first NCAA tournament win for Johnson & Wales in any sport according to the press release.
JWU was down 9 with 4:04 left in regulation before rallying to force overtime.
From the press release, here are some post-game comments from JWU head coach Jamie Benton:
"When we were down by nine, I told them the game wasn't over and we had to go back to being ourselves. Lamonte (Thomas) hit those two big threes, Calvin (Jones) had the jumper from the corner and we were back in business. They (JWU) picked it up when they had to, and I'm very happy our seniors got to experience an NCAA victory."
A little more on Lamonte Thomas' great night:
http://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2011/lamonte-thomas-night
ECAC New England Semifinal action
E. Connecticut 23, Albertus Magnus 10 9:23 left in first.
Update: Halftime from Geissler Gym-- E. Connecticut 37, Albertus Magnus 31
Update-- Eastern Connecticut 41, Albertus Magnus 37 14:50 left in regulation
Second half updates-- ECAC New England semifinal action
E. Connecticut 43, Albertus Magnus 43 12:45 left in regulation
E. Connecticut 47, Albertus Magnus 43 9:46 left in regulation
E. Connecticut 55, Albertus Magnus 54 4:16 left in regulation (Albertus's Ray Askew fouled out of the game with 5:20 remaining.)
E. Connecticut 57, Albertus Magnus 54 3:24 left in regulation
E. Connecticut 63, Albertus Magnus 57 47.7 seconds left in regulation
Final: E. Connecticut 66, Albertus Magnus 61-- E. Connecticut advances to play the winner of Brandeis v. MCLA in Sunday's ECAC New England Title game.
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2011/05/ohio-state-coach-takes-emerson-job
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 17, 2011, 11:09:13 PM
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2011/05/ohio-state-coach-takes-emerson-job
Emerson seems like a fun place to work, I hope he stays around a while.
First commitment.
Evan Tullar (Spaulding High,VT) commit to Norwich University!!
http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/news/article/1925/Commitment-CatchUp.php
B.J. Dunne named an assistant coach @Emerson.
http://www2.emerson.edu/athletics/men/basketball/Meet-the-Coach.cfm
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacda/sports/directorscup/auto_pdf/d3june17.pdf
Norwich Ranks 86th in Division III NACDA Director's Cup Standings!!
http://www.norwichathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/schedule
11-12 season schedule out!
GNAC Conference rivals St,Joe (ME) will travel to England in late August.
Monks will face 4 club teams in 9 days trip ,also conduct one-day clinics for young kids.
St joe's Maine tabs assistant coach.
Sean Costigan played for Stonehill skyhwaks(D2) and a year D1 school UMAINE.
he graduated Stonehill college in May of 2011.
Former NBA player Billy Curley to be an assistant at Emerson. Looks like Coach O'Brien is assembling a pretty good staff there.
http://hoopdirt.com/blog/81897dab/new-england-dirt/
Another former NBA player re-join GNAC schools coach position.
Emmanuel college hire Bruce Seals.
He is former Emerson college assistant coach.
http://hoopdirt.com/blog/72e2f5b4/daily-dirt-10-5-11/
GNAC
2010-11 Final Standings
1. St. Joseph's (ME) – 20-8, 15-3 GNAC
2. Johnson & Wales (RI) – 21-9, 14-4 GNAC
3. Albertus Magnus – 18-11, 14-4 GNAC
4. Norwich – 16-11, 11-7 GNAC
5. Rivier – 12-14, 7-11 GNAC
6. Emerson – 10-16, 7-11 GNAC
7. Mount Ida – 9-17, 6-12 GNAC
8. Suffolk – 8-18, 6-12 GNAC
9. Emmanuel – 6-19, 5-13 GNAC
10. Lasell – 6-19, 5-13 GNAC
2010-11 Conference Championship
o Johnson & Wales (RI) 76, St. Joseph's (ME) 66
NCAA Performance
o Johnson & Wales (RI) 114, Ramapo 106 (1st Round)
o Buffalo State 96, Johnson & Wales 72 (2nd Round)
RETURNING LEADERS
• Scoring
o Lamonte Thomas – Johnson & Wales – 6'2", Sr., G/F – 30.7 ppg
o Javon Williams – Lasell – 6'4", Sr., G – 23.8 ppg
o Ray Askew – Albertus Magnus – 6'6", Sr., F – 21.6 ppg
o Sean Bertanza – Lasell – 6'2", Jr., G – 19.6 ppg
o Isiah Benjamin – Mount Ida – 6'1", Sr., G – 17.3 ppg
• Rebounding
o Matt Pepdjonovic – Suffolk – 6'7", Jr., F – 13.3 rpg
o Ray Askew – Albertus Magnus – 6'6", Sr., F – 11.1 rpg
o Antonio Davis – Norwich – 6'6", Sr., F – 9 rpg
• Assists
o Lamonte Thomas – Johnson & Wales – 6'2", Sr., G/F – 6.1 apg
o Justin Barall – Suffolk – 5'7", Sr., G – 4.8 apg
o Zach O'Brien – St. Joseph's (ME) – 6'4", Sr., G – 4.3 apg
• Steals
o Javon Williams – Lasell – 6'4", Sr., F – 2.4 spg
• Blocks
o Matt Pepdjonovic – Suffolk – 6'7", Jr., F – 2.1 bpg
• FG %
o Tom Poitras – Rivier – 6'5", So., F - .619 FG%
• 3-pt FG %
o Chris Petzy – St. Joseph (ME) – 6'0", Sr., G - .455 3FG%
• 3FG Made
o Lamonte Thomas – Johnson & Wales – 6'2", Sr., G/F – 73 3FG
• FT %
o Calvin Jones – Johnson & Wales – 6'1", Sr., G - .845 FT%
http://www.smcathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/201110104zhrsi
Our former head assistant coach hired D2 school.
Norwich will announce New assistant coach soon.
Going to see the Albertus/Bridgeport scrimmage tomorrow @ UB night.
Saw Suffolk play UNH on Friday night. Suffolk may be pretty good this year. UNH put it on them in the first half, but Suffolk came roaring back in the 2nd. Suffolk was down 71-62 and making a run with under 5 to play when both of their big guys fouled out on almost back to back plays. If they stay in the game, it would have come down to the wire. I am not sure how good UNH is this year, but it was a pretty good showing by Suffolk. UNH could not guard the two BC High kids inside. Also, the kid #1 is a ridiculous athlete on the wing. The little PG played well too. Hit a pretty nasty buzzer beater going into the half. Should be interesting to see if Suffolk can challenge St. Joe's and Albertus this year. Did any one see JWU at Brown? Curious to hear about that one too.
Lasell defeated Brandeis last night, 91-82
Lasell boosted their team's roster this season with a lot of transfers. 3 transfers joined the 2 Lasell captains in the starting lineup for last night's contest.
The 3 other starters for Lasell last night were:
(1) Arthur Alexander-- juco transfer-- Played last season at Broward College (Florida.)
(2) Sonny Mello-- juco transfer-- Played last season at Bristol Community College (Massachusetts)-- 2nd team all New England last year on the junior college circuit.
(3) Nate DiSessa-- Senior-- Played '07-08 season for Elms; Played '08-09 season for Keene State, sat out one year academically + redshirt. He would have been a grad student this year if he went 4 straight years in college.
Leading bench point scorer for Lasell with 15 pts off the bench in last night's contest was Brandon Ganesh, a DII transfer. He played last season for DII Salem International University (West Virginia.)
With these transfers, Lasell should be able to have a winning season this year and possibly challenge for the GNAC title. No team was able to put up 90+ points on Brandeis last season.
Has anyone seen a season preview of the GNAC? I've been checking the gnac website but found nothing...
I think the GNAC will have a fun year; it sounds like Lasell, Suffolk have improved their teams. St. Joe, JWU, and Albertus look good as well.
Albertus brings everyone back this year that played significant minutes. They also get back three players who were suspended for violating team rules in February. One of them is Dugas their combo guard who is big and smart. Askew and Watson look to be the horses for Albertus, both can play in the post and shoot the three making it hard to defend Albertus. They also bring in a few more athletic guards and forwards. Look for up tempo basketball from Oliver's team.
They beat Coast Guard at home on Tuesday night. They committed 18 fouls, something they need to clean up. Coast Guard free throw shooting kept them in the game. It also slowed down the pace. Final score was 86-75.
Anna Maria is bringing a strong team over from the CCC, as well.
Hoops fan.. you usually have a good feel for the gnac.. Any preseason previews?
Quote from: pjunito on November 17, 2011, 04:23:58 PM
Hoops fan.. you usually have a good feel for the gnac.. Any preseason previews?
That is undeserved praise, for sure.
I really don't know what to make of the league this year. I usually try to give it until January and then develop a feel for what's going on.
Lasell gave Brandeis a good drubbing opening night, but I discount opening week games about as much as possible. Askew is back at Albertus, but I'm a bit "wait and see" on the team they're putting around him, at least from a consistency standpoint. I love Lamonte Thomas, but I'm very concerned about their severe lack of a post-game; they got torched down low Tuesday.
Anna Maria is new to the conference and they lost a fair amount from last year, but they've been recruiting well of late and Anthony Click is a legit player.
I'm not sure the overall league quality will be as high as it was five or ten years ago, but it should be very competitive.
Western Connecticut @ Albertus Magnus on Tuesday night will be a good test for both teams.
Albertus wins by 19 over West Conn. There is so much to tell, I don't know where to start.....
Albertus is very deep this year; along with the usual names of Askew, Watson, Lora, Jackson - Albertus has a few key new faces...
Dugas - not exactly new, but only played 5 games last season is a force and maybe the best all around guard in the GNAC. He has a very sweet jump shot, but also controls the offense. He is a good decision maker, can run, and has a big body to create match up problems in a league that has smaller guards. He also plays excellent defense.
Smith - He did not play the first game, however, in his few minutes in his Albertus debut, he the fans some things to cheer about. He had a very crowd pleasing break away dunk after a steal. He is as athletic as Walden St. Jude, we will have to see if he can score like him, but he will play defense on the top scoring options in the gnac.
Saunders - another mid year transfer who was behind walden and Byron Reaves last year. He is long and quick. Good on the ball defender and can hit the 3.
Along with these new faces you have the top 2....
Askew looks better than last year. He can score inside and out and is a work horse around the glass. His free throw shooting has to improve, but he seems unstoppable the first two games... I know he is motivated to return to the NCAAs..
Watson is in amazing shape.. He out runs every person on the court and has an explosive first step this year. He won the GNAC rookie of the year and he said it was his worst year since 9th grade. Last year he was indecisive and didn't attack. This year, very different. He goes to the basket, he pulls up, he knows exactly what he wants to do with the ball.
Look for Albertus to score plenty this year and play a lot of press defense. They look good, but it is early.
URGENT: Why was Lamonte Thomas not playing in JWU's game against Rhode Island College tonight? He wasn't dressed and sat at the end of the bench. I'm guessing he's injured...
Quote from: high flyer 21 on November 29, 2011, 10:02:20 PM
URGENT: Why was Lamonte Thomas not playing in JWU's game against Rhode Island College tonight? He wasn't dressed and sat at the end of the bench. I'm guessing he's injured...
He hyperextended his knee Sunday @ Western. He says he'll be fine, but he can't play until he gets the results of the MRI which should be tomorrow or Thursday. I'd expect him to be in uniform and starting for Saturday's game.
Anyone know if Lamonte Thomas is still out?
Quote from: Major Hoople on December 05, 2011, 11:31:09 AM
Anyone know if Lamonte Thomas is still out?
Yah, he'll be out until after New Year's I heard.
Nope, he's back.....
Thomas played 36 minutes and had 31 points. Not enough though - Suffolk beat them by 20 @ JWU.
This is the best I've seen Albertus. I watch them play against Rivier and Norwich... Both blow outs by a long shot! Far more athlectic than any team in the GNAC and this is Olivers most talented team. See anyone beating them in the GNAC?
I don't think they'll go undefeted in conference play, probably won't lose at home, but may lose once or twice on the road (J&W and St. Joes being the most likely). They completely obliterited a very good West Conn team in November, so I'm impressed.
If they have more months like that than I don't see anyone beating them in the GNAC. They already beat St.Joes at home and go against a JWU team without Jones and Fraust from last years championship season. It will be interesting to see how it unfolds. Anyone seen Emerson or Suffolk play recently? Any new players emerging out the Gnac?
I've seen Albertus play 4 games this year. They look strong; however, without seeing the rest of the GNAC, it will be tough to know who are contenders in the league until late January. Lasell has played well, JWU has struggled, and Emerson looks like they have been playing better. Anna maria is new to the conference and have talent, there might be a unfamiliar factor when playing them; they might end up with a home playoff game. I would like the gnac to update the standings; last year, standing are on the website. Very frustrating!
Happy Holidays everyone!
On Tuesday, Ray Askew has an opportunity to pass Carpenter's GNAC record for rebounding. Carpenter who played at Rivier had 1,001 rebounds in his great career. Askew will enter the game (at Rivier) with 998 career rebounds. It look like Askew could be added to the all-time GNAC team when all is said and done.
There are some good games coming up in the middle of January. We should know a lot more about the league by January 27.
Askew from Albertus breaks the record! What a great career for him. Does anyone see A contender for Albertus for the GNAC title??
Quote from: FormerGNACplayer on January 11, 2012, 12:20:56 AM
Askew from Albertus breaks the record! What a great career for him. Does anyone see A contender for Albertus for the GNAC title??
Probably St. Joseph's is the most challenging, but they already beat them. J&W has been a collassal dissapointment this year (at least in my opinion), but really Albertus is the class of the conference this year.
Does anyone see albertus getting any top 25 recognition soon?
Albertus Alum - I think the GNAC is considered a less competitive league; therefore a team has to either load up on tough out of conference opponents or go 22-1 before it begins to get top 25 votes. Albertus did beat Western CT State who was ranked 24 in the nation last week. But, Albertus still isn't receiving votes for the top 25.
That is kind of annoying because i know how far this program has come. Also, as you mentioned they have beaten West Conn earlier this year but i think West Conn may also drop a little bit seeing as they just lost another game to a team they shouldnt have lost to.
Quote from: albertusalum on January 18, 2012, 08:23:44 AM
That is kind of annoying because i know how far this program has come. Also, as you mentioned they have beaten West Conn earlier this year but i think West Conn may also drop a little bit seeing as they just lost another game to a team they shouldnt have lost to.
As a Western Connecticut studuent, let me say this: Eastern Connecticut is a better team and was playing at home. No real surprise Eastern won last night, however the Plymouth loss on Saturday was bad.
the Plymouth Loss is what i was talking about (i didnt see they lost again to Eastern). I wish i got to see Western play though, Daquan Brooks on paper looks like a pretty legit player.
Quote from: albertusalum on January 18, 2012, 04:22:29 PM
the Plymouth Loss is what i was talking about (i didnt see they lost again to Eastern). I wish i got to see Western play though, Daquan Brooks on paper looks like a pretty legit player.
If you want to see them play, come to Danbury on Tuesday for the RIC game. That'll feel like a playoff game; both teams already have 2 conference losses and can't afford a 3rd.
Quote from: 7express on January 19, 2012, 12:13:02 AM
Quote from: albertusalum on January 18, 2012, 04:22:29 PM
the Plymouth Loss is what i was talking about (i didnt see they lost again to Eastern). I wish i got to see Western play though, Daquan Brooks on paper looks like a pretty legit player.
If you want to see them play, come to Danbury on Tuesday for the RIC game. That'll feel like a playoff game; both teams already have 2 conference losses and can't afford a 3rd.
I will be there, and rooting for the Colonials and hopefully a healthy Western squad. Should be a great matchup. Go Colonials!!!!
Not goin up to Willamantic for the Eastern/Keene game which should also be a very good game??
Also, if your going up, the parking situation is brutal up at Western. Their building this new visual arts center, so they took out literally 75% of the parking spaces, and of the 25% they let 20% of it is for faculty and staff only >:(
Only places to park now (at least that I'm aware) is anywhere on the street, behind the O'Neil center (take that driveway that takes you past the football field) and follow that to the lot at the end. Even though it says its for faculty and staff only I've parked there without a problem. If you go in that way, you can enter the gym through the main building (take a left when you enter the building and go down the stairs, and straight in to enter the gymnasium). As usual, the lot in front of the O'neil center is still availible, but they tore up a lot of the spots. They built this new commuter lot on where the practice field used to be (first driveway on the right), but that's a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG ways away from where your going, but that's the only alternative.
We're working to get the Albertus Magnus coach on Hoopsville for tomorrow night.
That would be great Pat!
Albertus gets a little top 25 recognition with 4 votes. Watched them play Lasell last night and Askew put on his own little dunk highlight reel.
Great interview by Mitch Oliver on the Hoopsville show....
Albertus is playing at a very high level. They have a tough game on the road against Emmanuel; the Saints are playing very well. The game is on Thursday. The team is motivated and Ray Askew is playing like an All American.
Let's see if they get more votes if they continue to win.
The interview was great. Mitch is all class and bringing his D1 coaching skills to this level is obvious to see when watching games. And whether they are up by 1 or 20 his coaching strategy and subbing doesnt change, nor does his temper (haha). I am sure there are some teams in the GNAC that can run with Albertus for a short time but 10-0 12-2 runs they go on seems effortless at times. that will be hard for other teams to compete with in this conference.
It is sad that they don't get the respect they deserve. But, they will be a dangerous team come february.
Quote from: pjunito on January 25, 2012, 04:41:08 PM
It is sad that they don't get the respect they deserve. But, they will be a dangerous team come february.
If you keep winning, the results will take of itself.
Albertus 46 Emmanuel 42 at the half in Mass.
88-71 Falcons...
Albertus dominated the paint on both sides of the court in 2nd half. They blocked shots and forced bad shots by the Saints. They also were able to get easy lay-up and dunks.
Watson and Askew again led the way. Strong defense by Smith, Lora, Jimmy E, and Dugas. Jackson moved the ball well, and if he continues to share the ball that way, defenders will play off of him and he is able to put up numbers, especially behind the arc.
Good win by Albertus! 16-1 (10-0) in GNAC.
Askew scores 2,000 point in win over Mt. Ida on Saturday. He finishes with 31 (2,004 career) points. What a year he is having on a very good team. Albertus returns to action at home on Monday at 7pm vs Suffolk.
Great article on d3hoops this morning about Albertus men's team. Nice to see that the GNAC can get coverage this year, with so many great teams in New England.
Albertus improves to 20-1 on the year and 15-0 in the conference. They had a great week; 3-0, winning by 40 and 24 at home. And a come from behind win on the road vs Anna Maria on Thursday. They clinched the 1 seed in the conference tournament.
Albertus is ranked 24 in the country. Regional rankings come out tomorrow; will be interested to see how it looks. I would imagine that Midd, Amherst, Keene State, MIT, will be ranked above Albertus because the region doesn't consider the GNAC a tough conference.
Regional Rankings will be interesting as well; first one comes out this Wednesday. The teams that play the best in February usually make big runs in Conference Tournaments and beyond... Are there any teams that might be off the radar right know that anyone thinks might have a run left in their respective conferences?
In the GNAC, I think Johnson and Wales could be dangerous. They have a great scorer in Lamont Thomas; they won the conference last year and have the ability to shoot the 3 ball very well.
Albertus improves to 21-1 on the year as they beat Trinity on the road. Askew had another great game; scoring 31 pts. Lora had another double double. Final score was 85-73. Albertus has already earned the number 1 seed and homecourt through conference playoffs. They play Lasell on the road on Saturday/
Quote from: pjunito on February 07, 2012, 08:41:45 AM
Albertus is ranked 24 in the country. Regional rankings come out tomorrow; will be interested to see how it looks. I would imagine that Midd, Amherst, Keene State, MIT, will be ranked above Albertus because the region doesn't consider the GNAC a tough conference.
The Northeast will be an absolute mess to rank. You could legitimately have 6 or 7 teams (Amherst, Mid, Albertus, MIT, WPI, Keene & Western) in any order.
7 I think the region is very strong.. Makes for fun chats on the boards and games on the court..
Here is a quick highlight from Albertus/Trinity game..
Askew is the player that dunks a lot. lol.
http://www.ctnow.com/videogallery/67927885/Sports/albertus-magnus-vs-trinity-highlights-02/07#pl-62894825
A little disrespect on the part of Albertus, imo, coming in 12th in Northeast. This tells me Albertus has to win the conference tournament to get into the field. They should definitely be a lot higher.
Regional Rankings...... Week 1.
Northeast
1 Amherst 18-2 20-2
2 Middlebury 18-1 20-1
3 Rhode Island College 16-4 16-4
4 Western Connecticut 17-4 17-4
5 WPI 16-4 16-4
6 Eastern Connecticut 17-4 17-4
7 MIT 20-1 20-1
8 Keene State 14-3 17-4
9 Wesleyan (Conn.) 17-4 17-5
10 Tufts 16-6 16-6
11 Becker 16-4 16-4
12 Albertus Magnus 20-1 20-1
Maybe the people simply pick out of a hat. But, there is no way Albertus should be number 12.....
I'm surprised they were placed THAT low, but it was no doubt due to a dreadful SOS: .435.
The SOS is low; because conference is weak. But, what is the out of conference SOS?? A person cannot over look quality within a region...
1. Beat West Conn by 20 at home
2. Beat Becker by 9 on Road
3. Beat Trinity by 12 on Road
Quote from: pjunito on February 08, 2012, 06:18:55 PM
The SOS is low; because conference is weak. But, what is the out of conference SOS?? A person cannot over look quality within a region...
1. Beat West Conn by 20 at home
2. Beat Becker by 9 on Road
3. Beat Trinity by 12 on Road
The committee has not much leeway for 'subjectivity' and follows the published criteria. I assume that the first rankings probably do not include 'results vs. ranked teams' since, at that point, no one is ranked. If that is true, the ranking may rise next week because of those wins over (now) ranked teams.
Results vs. Regionally Ranked Opponents is NOT a factor for Week 1... because there are no ranked opponents to compare to until the first regionally rankings are out. From now on, those wins will be part of the conversation and AM could move up. And for the record, counting their conference opponents, AM's opponents record is 165-205... that is weak and we aren't even talking about the OOWP, yet.
D-Mac;
I respect your basketball opinion because I know you watch a lot of games and are highly interested and involved in division 3 basketball. I will not deny that Albertus' SOS is low and they have played a weaker scheduled because the conference is weak. However, anyone who has seen them play will know that they are much better than 12 in the region. If they win their next two games before next Wednesday; I'll be interested in seeing where they will be ranked.
Standings as of 2/8/12
Albertus Magnus 15-0 22-1
Saint Joseph's (Me.) 11-4 15-6
Johnson & Wales (RI) 10-5 11-11
Emmanuel 9-6 10-12
Lasell 9-6 10-12
Anna Maria 8-7 10-12
Mount Ida 5-9 8-13
Suffolk 5-11 8-15
Norwich 4-11 5-16
Emerson 4-12 4-18
Rivier 2-11 4-16
Albertus has clinched the 1 seed and home court through playoffs
top 8 teams make conference tournament; 3 round format (all games played at highest seed remaining) for those who didn't know. There is a fight for the last spot as Emerson, Norwich, and Suffolk are playing for the final spot. The winner gets Albertus.
St. Joe's needs two more wins to wrap up the 2 seed. They play Rivier Tonight and on Saturday.
Potential first round match-up with Anna Maria and JWU; could be very fun! Either team could win that match up and take out the second seeded Monks..
Albertus' 4 worst games, from a SOS perspective, are games over which they have no scheduling control - the home games against the bottom 4 teams in the conference. Without those 4 games, I think their SOS would rise from .435 to .481, while their WP would only drop from .952 to .941.
Albertus won 76-73 yesterday at Lasell. A tough game for Albertus; down as many as 16 in the second half; they use a 16-0 run to tie the game with a little over 8 minutes to play. Askew willed them to a victory as he scores 52. He is now only 81 points away from setting the school records for points.
Askew had to pick up the scoring as Watson was out with a minor injury. Watson as most of you know is second on the team in scoring and avgs 20 point per game. He also shoots 47% from the 3 point arc. Injury is minor; he would have played if it was playoffs. However, since Albertus has wrapped up the 1st seed, he was held out of the action.
Albertus defeats JWU 87-73 in Providence. Marshon Brooks was at the game watching two of the best scorers in the GNAC conference. Lamonte Thomas had 39 points to lead JWU and Askew had 35 and 20 rebounds to lead the falcons. The game was close at the half; JWU had a 4 point lead. However, Albertus started the second half on a 10-1 run and streched their lead to 15 with 13 minutes to play in the second. Albertus forced 7 turnovers in that 7 minute stretch and dominated the glass. They had a total of 55 rebounds. Albertus remains undefeated in conference play and has won 18 in a row. They are now 23-1 on the year.
Albertus finishes the regular season at 24-1 and undefeated in the GNAC (18-0) with a 75-62 win over St. Joes on Saturday. The falcons were losing by 1 with 8 mins left in the game. Ray Askew, who finished with 22 points, had his worst game of the year. He committed his 4th foul at the 7:55 mark in the second half with Albertus holding a 54-53 lead. The supporting cast played excellent when he went to the bench. Keep in mind that Darius Watson was held out of today's action as he continues to rest for the post season while a minor injury. Askew returned with 3:22 mins remaining and Albertus leading 65-54. The falcons used the 11-1 run to put the game away; they were led by Lora who played excellent defense, had 4 rebounds and 5 points while Askew was on the bench. Great year by the falcons! I don't care how weak a conference is, it is hard to go 18-0..
The conference championship goes through New Haven....
Conference preview to follow.
http://www.thegnac.com/championships/MBBALL2012-Tournament-Brack.jpg
Here is the link to the 2011-12 GNAC playoffs...
Albertus host 8th seeded Emerson.
Emerson played Albertus tough during the regular season in Boston. Albertus hung onto a 2 point win. However, in New Haven, Albertus won by 20. Emerson is on a roll and have a great coach. Will be tougher than normal for a 1 seed.
St. Joe's host 7th seeded Mt. Ida
JWU host 6th seeded Anna Maria
Anna Maria split with JWU in the regular season.. Look for an upset; Anna maria can run with JWU and have long defenders to guard Lamonte Thomas
Lasell host 5th seeded Emmanuel
St. joes played well against Albertus! And then I remember that Albertus was missing 20 points in Watson! Lora played like a 6'8 player! Hard to stop. As Askew went unnoticed going into this year nationally, I think O'brien of st.joes is one heck of a talent! Might be the best complete basketball player in the GNAC, Askew is more athletic, Thomas shoots more Waston is really good, but O'brien shoots,posts, rebs, and dishes in the Princeton offense! That's tough
GNACplayer - You must know your basketball. I couldn't agree more! O'Brien can shoot from the outside and was able to get to the rim often. He missed a few open 3's that allowed Albertus to pull away at the end. But, he dishes, moves the ball to the open shooter, can rebound, and is money from the line... He is one of those players that scare you as a fan of the other team.
The playoffs will be interesting because I think Anna Maria creates match-up problems to both JWU and ST. Joes.
Albertus moves up to 15 in the country.. They have a 24-1 record; they still are 10th in region.. but, they have a weak schedule right?
GNAC awards 2012
Here is my personal opinion on the awards:
First Team
Askew - Albertus
Thomas - JWU
O'Brien - St. Joe's
Click - Anna Maria
Watson - Albertus
Second Team
Bertanza - Lasell
Pepdjonovic - Suffolk
Williams - Lasell
Robinson - Emmanuel
Jackson - Albertus
Player of the Year
Askew - Albertus
Rookie of the Year
Abrams - Emerson
Defensive Player of the Year
Pepdjonovic
Head Coach of the Year
Mitch Oliver - Albertus
Anna Maria beats JWU 64-63... Lamonte Thomas misses a running in the lane at the buzzer. The ball rimmed out as the buzzer sounded. Very good back and forth game. Anna Maria drained 2 FTs with 7 seconds left. The call was questionable; There was contact, however, the anna maria player left his feet and had no where to go with the ball and dipped his shoulder into the JWU player. JWU had taken the lead 20 seconds earlier on a free throw; but could not convert on the second attempt opening the door for Anna Maria to escape with the 1 point lead.
St. Joe's wins easy at home over Mt. Ida...
Albertus wins over Emerson at home
Lasell in a very good game, beats Emmanuel 80-73 at home.
Thursday games
#4 Lasell vs #1 Albertus in New Haven, CT
#6 Anna Maria vs #2 St. Joe's of Maine, Maine
Write up tomorrow on games.
Anna Maria @ St. Joe's Maine
Anna Maria has swept the season series. They are long and that gives St. Joe's a problem. I think it will be closer than what many people looking at the records would think. However, St. Joe's is led by the most complete player in the conference, O'Brien. They are well coached. They don't hurt themselves, can shoot the 3 well, are always in the right position to rebound and defend, and hit their free throws. They are not a team that comes from behind well; so if they fall behind early, they could be in trouble. I expect St. Joe's and Anna Maria to be in a tight game with 5 minutes left. St. Joe's leaders will take over and they will win by 6-8 points.
Lasell @ Albertus
Lasell gave Albertus the biggest scare during the regular season (In conference). They had a 16 point lead with 14 minutes left to play. Albertus had one of the best games ever in their history from Askew (he had 52 points, 25 in the second half, and 18 in last 10 minutes). Lasell lives and dies by the three ball. They have one of the most talented forward in the league in Williams. He opens up his shooters. Lasell has to bury their 3's to win this game. Albertus is healhty and hungry. Coach Oliver understands that he cannot leave it to the committee to vote his team in. He will have his team ready to go. The game will be tight at the half, but look for Albertus to pull away in the second half; led by their defense (forcing turnovers and easy points). Albertus wins by 14.
St. Joe's and Albertus are the best two teams in the GNAC. It would only be fitting if they play for the right to go to the NCAA.
Anna Maria did not agree with my last post.. As they shock the second seeded Monks of St. Joe's in Maine. Anthony Click hits a running lay-up with 2.3 seconds left to lift the AMCats to a 60-59 win. This game was back and forth. St. Joe's had the ball with 48 seconds left and forced up a bad shot with the shot clock running down. Anna Maria grabbed the rebound and called a time-out to with 14 seconds left to set-up the final play. St. Joe's had a foul to give and used it with 7 seconds left. The ball was inbounded to Click at the top of the key; he crossed over to his right and drove hard down the lane to hit the uncontested lay-up. St. Joe's did have a good look at a three; however, the shot was no good. Anna Maria will play in the GNAC championship in its first year.
Albertus defeats Lasell 92-70. Lasell had a 26-22 lead with under 10 to play in the first half. But Albertus used a 14-0 run and a 14-3 run to end the half to put this game away. Albertus led by as many as 31 points in the second half. Ray Aksew became the all time leading scorer in Albertus history in the first half. He currently has 2244 points and will look to add to it on Saturday. There were a lot of fouls that slowed the game down early on. However, Albertus used their size and speed to create turnovers and fast break opportunities. Zach Dugas (Jr.) had a very good game. He finished with 20; as watson only played 17 minutes due to foul trouble.
Anna Maria will travel to New Haven to face the #1 seed Falcons at 1pm on Saturday. Anna Maria has won both of its previous playoff games by 1 point on the road. The AMCats fans travel well. They will probably have about 200 fans at the "Nest". This will be a sell-out and a very good game. Both teams are built similiar.
Spot on pjunito! Great job! I don't think Albertus will lose on its home
Floor in the championship! Askew has wills his team to victory and the emergeance of Lora in the playoff put Albertus at a different Plato! But thats why the game is played on the court! 3 yrs ago a very talented team in Emerson was knocked off as 2 seed in the Gnac by Albertus by 20! Gnac games are so unpredictable
Quote from: pjunito on February 23, 2012, 10:43:52 PM
Anna Maria did not agree with my last post.. As they shock the second seeded Monks of St. Joe's in Maine. Anthony Click hits a running lay-up with 2.3 seconds left to lift the AMCats to a 60-59 win. This game was back and forth. St. Joe's had the ball with 48 seconds left and forced up a bad shot with the shot clock running down. Anna Maria grabbed the rebound and called a time-out to with 14 seconds left to set-up the final play. St. Joe's had a foul to give and used it with 7 seconds left. The ball was inbounded to Click at the top of the key; he crossed over to his right and drove hard down the lane to hit the uncontested lay-up. St. Joe's did have a good look at a three; however, the shot was no good. Anna Maria will play in the GNAC championship in its first year.
Albertus defeats Lasell 92-70. Lasell had a 26-22 lead with under 10 to play in the first half. But Albertus used a 14-0 run and a 14-3 run to end the half to put this game away. Albertus led by as many as 31 points in the second half. Ray Aksew became the all time leading scorer in Albertus history in the first half. He currently has 2244 points and will look to add to it on Saturday. There were a lot of fouls that slowed the game down early on. However, Albertus used their size and speed to create turnovers and fast break opportunities. Zach Dugas (Jr.) had a very good game. He finished with 20; as watson only played 17 minutes due to foul trouble.
Anna Maria will travel to New Haven to face the #1 seed Falcons at 1pm on Saturday. Anna Maria has won both of its previous playoff games by 1 point on the road. The AMCats fans travel well. They will probably have about 200 fans at the "Nest". This will be a sell-out and a very good game. Both teams are built similiar.
We'll be videocasting the game Saturday afternoon (1pm EST Tip/12:45pm EST Pregame) on D3hoops.com via Ustream.TV. Stay tuned for links and details.
Albertus really is on a whole new level right now and i think they can have a legitimate shot at making a run in the tourny with a win on Saturday. A huge key i have seen is Lora. When he plays like he has been the team seems to click much better. If he doesnt let his emotions get the best of him, he will continue to be dominant inside and not pick of stupid fouls. As for Ray, he was double and tripled team last night on many occasions and was finding passes to open teammates for great looks. They even ran a box and 1 at one point but guarded Ray with a much undersized player who barely stood up to Rays waist. I havent seen Anna Maria play yet this season but im sure they wont go down without a fighting chance. Albertus is simply bullying teams at this pont. GO FALCONS!
Quote from: albertusalum on February 24, 2012, 09:41:58 AM
Albertus really is on a whole new level right now and i think they can have a legitimate shot at making a run in the tourny with a win on Saturday. A huge key i have seen is Lora. When he plays like he has been the team seems to click much better. If he doesnt let his emotions get the best of him, he will continue to be dominant inside and not pick of stupid fouls. As for Ray, he was double and tripled team last night on many occasions and was finding passes to open teammates for great looks. They even ran a box and 1 at one point but guarded Ray with a much undersized player who barely stood up to Rays waist. I havent seen Anna Maria play yet this season but im sure they wont go down without a fighting chance. Albertus is simply bullying teams at this pont. GO FALCONS!
Seems like Lora's development isn't quite what you'd expect from a former D1 commitment (Central Conn St, if I remember correctly). From people that have seen him, is he finally starting to come along, or is he still a bit of a disappointment? Looking at some boxscores, it appears he has been pretty inconsistent and prone to foul trouble. However, based on how he was rated coming out of high school, he must have tremendous upside.
Nerd, Lora has been a bit of a disappointment. He is the only recruit who has shrunk from 7 ft to 6'8 in three years. (Inside joke, for any Albertus followers). Lora was out of shape and hurt in his freshmen year (his best game was agaisnt Yale's Center Mangano); he scored 11 and 2 blocks of Mangano while holding him to 7 points and keeping him away from the paint. Lora also played very well in the first round tournament game against William Patterson; he was solid defensively. Last year, he ws suspended along with 3 other members of the team and did not finish the season with the team. (That may have cost Albertus a return trip to the NCAA; Ray Askew didn't play in the GNAC semi-final either). However, since January, Lora has been playing the best basketball in his college career. He has also become a great team player. He understands that this isn't his team, it's Askew. Lora is in the best shape of his career. He is also playing amazing defense. He is blocking shots, rebounding, and more importantly altering shots. He is capable of scoring 20, but doesn't need to (Askew and Watson can do that). He is asked to guard the big man, rebound, and stop pentration. He has been doing that. I think next year, you will see him become a much better offensive presence..... as long as he comes back in shape and ready to work.
Looks like Albertus won't have to worry about whether their in the field or not come Monday afternoon. Up 25 and not even at halftime.
Albertus Men's basketball team wins their 2nd GNAC championship in 3 years. The Falcons completed an undefeated conference season by beating the AMCats of Anna Maria on Saturday by a 88-54 margin. Albertus came out on fire; hitting their first 6 shots, including 2 three's by Darius Watson. Anna Maria stayed in the game during the opening minutes by out hustling Albertus to loose balls and on the offensive glass. But, Albertus' speed and athletic ability took over, highlight by a few dunks by Ray Askew. Albertus led 25-10 and finish the first half on a 29-15 run to lead 54-25 at the half. Albertus then went on a 14-4 run to start the second half and led by as many as 40 in the second half. Coach Oliver emptied his bench at the 9 minute mark; bringing seniors Matt Maya and Ray Askew back into the game at the 3 minute mark; so that they can get one last standing ovation before the home crowd. Albertus now will wait to see who they will play in the opening round of the NCAA... Selection show will take place on Monday.
Quote from: pjunito on February 25, 2012, 05:14:29 PM
Albertus Men's basketball team wins their 2nd GNAC championship in 3 years. The Falcons completed an undefeated conference season by beating the AMCats of Anna Maria on Saturday by a 88-54 margin. Albertus came out on fire; hitting their first 6 shots, including 2 three's by Darius Watson. Anna Maria stayed in the game during the opening minutes by out hustling Albertus to loose balls and on the offensive glass. But, Albertus' speed and athletic ability took over, highlight by a few dunks by Ray Askew. Albertus led 25-10 and finish the first half on a 29-15 run to lead 54-25 at the half. Albertus then went on a 14-4 run to start the second half and led by as many as 40 in the second half. Coach Oliver emptied his bench at the 9 minute mark; bringing seniors Matt Maya and Ray Askew back into the game at the 3 minute mark; so that they can get one last standing ovation before the home crowd. Albertus now will wait to see who they will play in the opening round of the NCAA... Selection show will take place on Monday.
Just for future reference its the AMCATs. The mascot is an acronym for Anna Maria College Athletic Teams.
Great job by d3hoops today at the Nest... Thanks for not giving me a mic.... lol..
Hoops, thanks. I had no idea. Thanks!
Albertus travels to Vermont and will play St. joseph of Long Island in the first round.
Quick question. How does Albertus jump down a spot on the top 25 if they just won the conference?
Good question.. The SOS is really bad. So, because they beat three teams (none of whom has a winning record) they didn't receive as many points. The teams that jumped Albertus played teams with better winning percentage, so they received more points.
Albertus can prove themselves in the tournament. St. Joe scares me because they are a veternan team who has won 48 games the last two years. They shoot the three very well. And, they are going want to prove they belong. If Albertus, gets past this team. They will not be scared of Midd. They are too naiive to look at the front of the jersey; they will just come out play.
The GNAC awards have been released...
Askew wins POY and DPOY
Oliver wins Coach of the Year.
Full information found here: http://www.albertusfalcons.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/files/Mens_Basketball_2012.pdf
Hey it was announced this afternoon that Emerson was coming over to the NEWMAC - any comments from anyone who knows them?
Hey WPI,
Emerson got a lot better as the year closed. They were out of the playoffs when February began and won some big games. They also gave Albertus' it's closest game in the conference in Boston. They are well coached (Jim O'Brien, former Ohio State coach) and ROY on their team. Kell-Abrams is a good shooter (only 5'3 or so), so he will have trouble with bigger guards. But, he is a good player. O'Brien will recruit well and he is a heck of a coach. They should be a average team next year, but will get better if O'brien stays
Thanks - I commented on the NEWMAC site - can't believe O'Brien is coaching Emerson!
Crazy isn't it????? Hey, good luck to WPI. Wish they had an opportunity to play in the national tournament. Hope the seniors on the team can leave with a championship!
Albertus meets St. Joe (LI) in first round of NCAA tonight at 5:30 in Middlebury, VT. Albertus is making its first appearance to the tournament since 2010; the year they pulled off an amazing upset on a last second half court heave to beat William Patterson by 2 points. St. joe's from what I have seen has not been to the tournament recently. St Joe's is a scary team; they are led by 7 seniors, play small, shoot the three well and can score. They also want to show everyone they belong as many people feel like they should not have made the tournament. Albertus remembers the feeling of 2010; many of the players didn't know what to expect. Many were just happy to be there. this year's team believes it can make a deep run in this tournament. They are led by Ray Askew, a member of that 2010 team, and one of the best players in the region. He has played with a sense of urgency all year and has led his team to a 27-1 record. This should be an entertaining game and I think that it will be close at the half, but Albertus pulls away in the second half.
best player in the region? How bout nation?lol
I thought Ray deserved first team all northeast region. Lamonte Thomas is a great player but i probably would have swapped those two on the list. I guess im a little bit bias with Albertus in general having played there, but i cant imagine there being too many more players in the country more dominating then Ray. I just hope Albertus can make some noise in the tourney. Didnt really seem like Albertus got the best break in the tourney either. getting past the first game puts them up against Middlebury at home in the second correct?
If ALbertus wins and Midd wins, they will play tomorrow night at 7 at Midd.
Jackson hit a GREAT runner to put em up 3, then they played great defense, GREAT win, scary but GREAT!! They needed a TIGHT game, not THAT tight though!! GREAT game by St Joes!! AMC moves on, they played GREAT Defense on teh final possesion, forced an air ball!! wow, very exciting!! I am excited now to watch the Middlebury game!! GO FALCONS!!!!!!
Good win by the falcons... St. Joe's played great. Give them credit. Albertus can't have 21 turnovers tomorrow if they want to win. Albertus advances 87-84; watson and askew with 27 to lead the way.
the press bothered them, need to keep the ball away from the sidelines which is easier said then done, any win is a good win in this tournament!! st joe's is quicker than middlebury, middlebury still needs to win, i am excited for tomorrow no matter who they play!! great game!! askew, actually everyone played great on offense, defense could use a shot in teh arm, they played GREAT defense on the last possesion, really great, forced an air ball, really guarded the 3 point line once it was clear that was the route St joe's was going!!
Albertus plays Midd tomorrow night at 7pm. Respect game for Albertus, do they belong?
Quote from: pjunito on March 02, 2012, 09:59:55 PM
Albertus plays Midd tomorrow night at 7pm. Respect game for Albertus, do they belong?
The players most definitely belong. The Coaches behavior was an embarrassment last night.
Coach? Guys, alot of Oliver bashing, there were some bad calls, the flagrant 1 was a JOKE!! The elbow was nowhere NEAR intentional. I just worry he acts so bad he affects the kids, otherwise, it is an act, come on, be smart, he won't be as bad tonight as he knows he will need his players 100% focused to win this game, they can win tonight, they are faster, middlebury looks solid on defense and they play a strong offense, AMC will need to play better D tonight. they played great D whenit counted last night. He is using the OLD "let me worry about the ref" line I bet, telling the kids to focus on the game!! good luck AMC!! and I do NOT condone swearing if indeed that was the case but you work hard to get to where you are and you don't want a couple of bad calls bringing down your season. i think AMC creates SERIOUS athlectic matchup problems for Midd, I really do!!
Do they belong? I don't think there's any doubt. They played there C minus game last night.sloppy, 21 turnovers, 3 technicals, and they still beat a good quick st joes team. Askew n Watson might be the best 1 2 punch in the nation. As far as the coach, that's who he is, not an ounce of it is an act. He's a competitor. But he needs to be smarter. He's taken this program from averaging 3 wins with a roster if 7, to a natl contender in 5 yrs, with 14 players. So he knows what he's doing
Quote from: falcons2010 on March 03, 2012, 10:07:16 AM
Do they belong? I don't think there's any doubt. They played there C minus game last night.sloppy, 21 turnovers, 3 technicals, and they still beat a good quick st joes team. Askew n Watson might be the best 1 2 punch in the nation. As far as the coach, that's who he is, not an ounce of it is an act. He's a competitor. But he needs to be smarter. He's taken this program from averaging 3 wins with a roster if 7, to a natl contender in 5 yrs, with 14 players. So he knows what he's doing
Not debating at all that AM is an excellent team that could go far in the tourney, and that the Coach knows what he is doing. I bring my kids to the games and had to move them away from the AM bench because of his abhorrent language and behavior.
Yes I hear you. Unfortunately I guess it comes with the territory of college and professional sports. Enjoy a good game tonight though!
smorris12.....as explained to us on the NESCAC board.... the flagrant foul call has to be made whenever an elbow is near someone's head. This is to protect players from possible injuries. Tend to be called when a player gets a rebound and holds his elbows high and swings them as he turns around ...to clear space and/or looks for his team mates. If the elbow is near someones head area...you get a foul called....if the refs. follow the rules.
Amh63 is correct. If Arshad's elbow had been intentional, it would have been a flagrant 2 and an automatic ejection. Simply by swinging an elbow and connecting with an opponent's head, even if inadvertent, warrents a flagrant 1.
The call was correct.
Quote from: falcons2010 on March 03, 2012, 11:40:59 AM
Yes I hear you. Unfortunately I guess it comes with the territory of college and professional sports. Enjoy a good game tonight though!
Much appreciated, thanks falcons2010.
Absolutely!
Falcons here we go baby... They have the talent. Can they execute enough?
Albertus season comes to an end as they lose 89-73 tonight in VT to Middlebury. Albertus started the game on a 7-0 run. However, were out classed the rest of the way. Albertus was down 12 at the half and Midd never looked back. They had 3 turnovers in the second half; Albertus lives off fast break points and pushing the tempo. Midd played their game, they moved the ball well and beat the falcons up and down the court. Great job by the falcons this season - 28-2 and a win in the tournament is a great accomplishment. Ray had an amazing career and he will be missed....
There is one good thing that comes from this lost. Is that Coach Oliver knows that he still has missing pieces to contend at the national level. Look for him to continue to recruit and develop his young players and be back next year.
Remember Albertus brings back 4 out of their 5 starters; including an electric player in Watson. Along with 4 key role players. If Albertus can bring in a few players who can add depth to the front court, I think they will be in the tournament again next year.
Ray Askew of Albertus named a 3rd team all-american: http://wcsu.edu/sports/MBasketball/NewsStories/mbBrooksNABCAllAmerican031512.html
Not sure what affect this has...
http://www.emerson.edu/news-events/emerson-college-today/parnell-steps-down-director-athletics
The athletic director reports to the vice president of IT? Really?
So maybe I'm slow on the uptake, but I just now realized Rob Hennigan, who I saw rip ENC a new one, single-handedly - in a community center in Roxbury with two rows of bleachers, is the new GM of the Orlando Magic.
What's up GNACers? Albertus 2010 grad who is a big follower of the basketball team. Long time lurker who is looking to get more involved in the discussion this year!
Just a little light on Albertus (and I'll throw this in the GNAC thread too), despite the loss of Ray they should be just fine. While I haven't been around the school as much this fall (I played soccer there, was there a lot last year but not as much this year), my best guess would be that Spencer Smith would slide right into Ray's 4 spot. Tenacious worker who's in there to bang on the boards and play defense.
As far as their incoming class, it's super talented. 2 All-State, state champions from CT join the squad in 6'5 swingman Kenny Armstead and point guard James Jennings. From what I saw on the web, Jennings was actually listed as MSG Varsity's CT Player of the Year and was supposed to go to Southern CT (DII) but somehow ended up at Albertus. Two kids from NJ join the team as well, Marc Wilson and Rodney Wilson. Not sure if they're related because they went to different high schools according to the roster. Rodney Wilson was listed at #94 on MSGV's top 100 in NJ as a junior, but can't find anything about him as a senior. The Falcons also add 6'8 Ebrahim Jallow who has a high ceiling but is quite raw.
They should run away with the GNAC, but one thing worries me - Darius Watson becoming the go-to-guy. Obviously Ray was going to get his and Watson was still a 20 ppg guy. I'm just hoping he doesn't become to full of himself and take everyone else out of the game. With Oliver coaching and such solid guard play from Jackson and Dugas I don't think it will happen, but I've seem him have his negative moments. Should be fun to watch again though!
The opener for AMC was a bit strange, and without being there at the game it's tough to know what's going on with the team. Zach Dugas only played 2 minutes, and Arshad Jackson and Spencer Smith didn't even play. 7express said 2 guys were in street clothes so maybe it was them. They started a freshman (James Jennings) and the other big-time freshman Kenny Armstead got 12 minutes (and he took 10 shots!). Between Jennings and Armstead they went 5-24. Surprised they were allowed to shoot so much, especially Armstead. They must be better than I imagine, or it will all drastically change once the aforementioned players get back in rotation.
I'm not sure about height but based on what 7express said, you would think AMC should have outrebounded this team and they didn't. While AMC was never really a great defensive team, it seems as though the loss of Ray will be felt most on the interior D and on the boards. Hopefully they can get that corrected or they'll be out in the 1st or 2nd round of the NCAAs again. FT% needs to be better too. 66% won't cut it in big time games. They shot 15 more FTs than Western and only won by 6.
7express said they looked very disinterested and more worried about the highlights rather than actually winning the game. As I stated in the LEC topic, I hope this team isn't like the 10-11 team where they figure they can just turn it up come GNAC tourney time. That season, for whatever reason Ray doesn't play in the semi's and they lost. They should run away with the league but in a one-and-done scenario anything can happen.
Western had already played 2 games, one against a top 10 team and this was their home opener. I think they can be happy with the result. I just really want to see what happens with Dugas, Jackson, and Smith going forward and how the rotation will work once roles are solidified.
Hey Dave, Welcome to the boards!
7express was right on with his post. Two horrible technical calls gave Albertus control of the game. The first was an over reaction call by the official. He heard a Western guy say something but it was no worst than what the Albertus guys said after a call. The second one, should have either been a double foul or nothing. It was just a strange technical.
As far as the rest of the game. Dugas and Smith are both hurt and Jackson will be available next week. 3 very key guys and I think this allowed the flow of the game to become out of wack. Albertus was more talented, however, I think we saw some youth from the team (poor decision making) and also it was Albertus's first game. They are still feeling each other out. Jennings is a stud; however, took too many shots and a lot of them were bad shots. For over 10 mins, they didn't hit a field goal. Very bad offense, no movement, and poor shot selections. I chalk this up to the first game and not having their two veternan guards. I don't think they were disinterested, simply think they took bad shots and made bad decisions. What we forget is that Jennings and Kenny A were able to make a lot of plays in high school, forcing the ball and making difficult shots. You can't do that in College and they will learn that. West Conn dominated the glass, but Albertus had a lot of block shots and contested shots. They need to be better at boxing out. I think once Smith gets back; we see better team defense and rebounding. Key moment of the game, Watson took over with about 3 mins left; hit a nice running lay-up, drilled a 14 footer, and hit his free throws. This kid can score and take over. He will have a very good year.
And Dave, don't forget; Jimmy, Dugas, and Lora were all suspended during the 10-11 season and didn't play in the semis. So, no Ray, Lora, or Dugas, that's three starters and the 6th man, not playing.. This team is very deep and athletic.
I think they are one year away from competing with the big boys
I appreciate the insight very much! Like I said, I wasnt there at the western game, or during that run in 10-11. Based on their record during the regular season (granted the GNAC was better as a whole) it seemed like they really weren't giving their best effort knowing that come GNAC tourney time they could just turn it on.
Given your insight, I've seen Mitch pull people for stupid/dumb decisions on offense so I'm assuming the lack of depth/injuries attributed to Jennings and Armstead taking so many shots (and not making them). From what 7express told me, Jennings looks like a STUD and I know he was supposed to go to Southern. If he continues to develop AMC will be good for the next 4 years.
Regardless...as much as I've seen (and partied :P) with the Albertus team, they shouldn't be that close with a team as inferior as Western is. As we've alluded to, once everyone is healthy the team will be a whole 'nother story and that's what I'm waiting for...
Do you have any recent info on the Wilson's from Jersey? Couldn't find anything recent on them, especially Rodney who was #94 on the MSG Varsity Top 100 as a junior.
Basically like I said, being it our first game, on the road, playing against a decent DIII squad (not a GNAC team) who already played against a top 10 team, the result is satisfactory :)
Interesting to pay attention to the Wesleyan AMC game Sunday. Wesleyan coming off a loss at home to NESCAC and little 3 rival Williams. As long as you can stay in front of Sha Brown of Wesleyan and control the other's your in good shape to win and I think AMC will pull that off by about 10 or so.
Quote from: lildave678 on November 24, 2012, 12:30:26 AM
I appreciate the insight very much! Like I said, I wasnt there at the western game, or during that run in 10-11. Based on their record during the regular season (granted the GNAC was better as a whole) it seemed like they really weren't giving their best effort knowing that come GNAC tourney time they could just turn it on.
Given your insight, I've seen Mitch pull people for stupid/dumb decisions on offense so I'm assuming the lack of depth/injuries attributed to Jennings and Armstead taking so many shots (and not making them). From what 7express told me, Jennings looks like a STUD and I know he was supposed to go to Southern. If he continues to develop AMC will be good for the next 4 years.
Regardless...as much as I've seen (and partied :P) with the Albertus team, they shouldn't be that close with a team as inferior as Western is. As we've alluded to, once everyone is healthy the team will be a whole 'nother story and that's what I'm waiting for...
Do you have any recent info on the Wilson's from Jersey? Couldn't find anything recent on them, especially Rodney who was #94 on the MSG Varsity Top 100 as a junior.
Also, its too bad we can't a replay of this game @ AMC in January or February. This Western team is extremely young & inexpierenced. Only 4 players (out of 15) were on the team that finished last season, 0 starters, and only 1 guy back that played significant minutes. Russ Payton played in 10/11 (sat out last year due to academics I believe) and LeRoy Mayers last played in 09/10 (sat out the last 2 years). Once this Western team starts to gel and get used to playing together they can be a very dangerous club. I still have them finishing 3rd in the LEC. I'd like to see another matchup between these 2 this year.
No stats are up yet but I just checked from work and AMC defeated Wesleyan 82-73.
Quote from: 7express on November 24, 2012, 03:00:20 AM
Quote from: lildave678 on November 24, 2012, 12:30:26 AM
I appreciate the insight very much! Like I said, I wasnt there at the western game, or during that run in 10-11. Based on their record during the regular season (granted the GNAC was better as a whole) it seemed like they really weren't giving their best effort knowing that come GNAC tourney time they could just turn it on.
Given your insight, I've seen Mitch pull people for stupid/dumb decisions on offense so I'm assuming the lack of depth/injuries attributed to Jennings and Armstead taking so many shots (and not making them). From what 7express told me, Jennings looks like a STUD and I know he was supposed to go to Southern. If he continues to develop AMC will be good for the next 4 years.
Regardless...as much as I've seen (and partied :P) with the Albertus team, they shouldn't be that close with a team as inferior as Western is. As we've alluded to, once everyone is healthy the team will be a whole 'nother story and that's what I'm waiting for...
Do you have any recent info on the Wilson's from Jersey? Couldn't find anything recent on them, especially Rodney who was #94 on the MSG Varsity Top 100 as a junior.
Also, its too bad we can't a replay of this game @ AMC in January or February. This Western team is extremely young & inexpierenced. Only 4 players (out of 15) were on the team that finished last season, 0 starters, and only 1 guy back that played significant minutes. Russ Payton played in 10/11 (sat out last year due to academics I believe) and LeRoy Mayers last played in 09/10 (sat out the last 2 years). Once this Western team starts to gel and get used to playing together they can be a very dangerous club. I still have them finishing 3rd in the LEC. I'd like to see another matchup between these 2 this year.
7, what's up man. I should have told you I was going to the West Conn game. West Conn is better than what they showed on Tuesday. They have some big bodies and a very good guard. The game had a lot of fouls (refs called it tight), this gave Albertus an advantage. Seems as if Albertus might be a bit deeper. The bench for West Conn didn't have the same offensive flow as the starters. This allowed for easy points in my opinion. I think West Conn will get better as the year continues and would not like to seem them again.
Good day for the GNAC. St Joe's and Albertus beat tough teams and Norwich wins as well.
Albertus 82, #23 Wesleyan 73
St. Joe's 70, Southern Me 56
Norwich 71, Johnson St. 65
New D3hoops Top 25 poll is out and Albertus Magnus breaks into the rankings as they are listed at #23 with 108 points. Here's the link:
http://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2012-13/week1
Albertus beats a surprisingly tough Mitchell team tonight. Lora was out but the sophomore Larsen stepped up with a double double, Jennings hit tough shots, Jackson is back and Watson scores effortlessly. Albertus will be fine this year, won't be a repeat of 10-11 season. That yr, Watson was a freshmen and not even half of what he is now and last yr, St.Juste and Reaves (starting guards) both missed games due to injuries during the season, Transfers Dugas, Massey(Becker) and Cagle came in mid-year, Askew, Jackson, Lora, Dugas, Eco, and Sweeney all missed the game at JWU in the playoffs, not to mention that Thomas from JWU was lights out that season, especially at home. 10-11 team was never established. Still early, Albertus now looks to be settled and if Jennings and Jackson can limit TO's and bad shots, they will be playing for the title game. Larsen and Smith are solid. Need Lora to be 6'8, play big as he did last year in the GNAC playoffs. Any news on St.Joes? New players? Anybody got a top 5 in the GNAC? St.Joes, Norwich, Albertus have been solid for years, any reason they don't get respect in the Northeast?
Darius Watson named ECAC New England Player of the Week!
http://ecacsports.com/sports/winter/mbkb/potw/General/2012-2013/November_27-_2012
Tough game for Albertus today; but they pulled out the victory. Lasell has played Albertus tough last year. they play a princeton style offense, lots of back-cuts, and shooting the three. Today, they were hitting their threes, but Watson took over the game with 10 mins left. jennings and Kenny A had nice 2nd half performances as well.
Albertus remains unbeaten, but really need to play better if they want to win the conference.
Hey pjunito!
Was just curious if you saw the AMC Trinity game? If you did, I was wondering if you could recap it from a fans point of view. Looks like Jennings had another good game. Any idea why Chi didn't play? Thanks!
Hey lil Dave. I saw some of the game online. Jennings had another great game, as did Watson. Albertus was in control the whole game. Up 15 at once in 2nd half it was cut down to 5 at one point. Albertus played great D that transitioned into buckets, something they need to do more of. Their transition offense is as quick as they come. This team next yr will be poised for an NCAA run. They seem to play to the level of competition(Wesleyan, Lasell) which is dangerous. The lasell game they really seemed as if they thought they'd just turn it on at any point. That will lose you games. When Lora is back(seperated shoulder in Mitchell game) their fire might turn up a notch as he is their leader. I don't see Albertus going 27-1 like last yr, but still see the being very very solid
Thanks for the insight!
It looks like I'm not the only one who fears this AMC team lulling in and out of some games. Like I stressed after the Western game, after being so dominant recently they can't expect to walk on the court and beat teams. They have the talent to do so, but that talent needs to be supplemented with effort and hard work when the shots aren't falling or the calls are going against them. I'm hoping the close Lasell game gives them a wake up call.
Haven't been able to catch much of the action but how's Lemar Larsen playing? He went to my high school (though 4 years behind me) and I was ecstatic when I saw him going to AMC. He played very sparingly and I was hoping it didn't waiver his confidence and make him want to look elsewhere. I'm pumped he has stuck it out and is now starting because he has that kind of ability. He hasn't scored in the last 2 games (if I recall) but he seems to be filling the void on the boards with Ray's absence.
Yes I def see this team falling to sleep in some games. To their credit they found it in the lasell game. But they should of beaten that lasell team by 20. The kid Jennings can flat out play. He sparked them in that win. Larsen played well the first couple games. The last two has not been too much of a factor. But from what I saw at the western game he's athletic, long, and jumps out if the gym. Great defensively. Just two down games but he should be fine. Seems to be there main PF
Albertus beats mt Ida by 7. Wasn't at the game but from what I understand they were up double digits the entire second half, including being up 16 with 2 mins left before Oliver emptied his bench and mt Ida made it respectable. But don't let the score fool you
Hey Dave and Bballfan,
I agree with what you are saying; the team is playing inconsistent. I think they are still trying to find themselves. There are some new faces and guys who have to step up. I won't be concerned with the overall records; I think that this team will come together in February. They have some hungry seniors (Lora and Jimmy E are playing very well), they have some strong defenders (Smith and Saunders), and the ability to play mutilple guards (Jennings, Dugas, Jackson). I think this will prove that they are too much for the GNAC. And Watson is the driving force. He looks good so far.
Albertus vs. Division I Yale tonight. For the Falcons sake, I hope a loss doesn't deter their rank in the top 25, as Yale would be expected to win any game against a D3 opponent. Albertus will come out firing like they did against Yale 2 years ago I'm sure, in which they trailed at 4 after 1 half. Should be fun one to watch online for myself. Hope these voters do the research if Amc happens to lose
19-15 Yale 12 min left in half...........Albertus is quicker just not bigger. Watson with 8 points early and looking to make statement
Albertus playing rather good D, shots just aren't falling like they usually do. Will credit Yale for that, however a couple threes were in and out or It'd be closer. 27-18 Yale first half
Yale in control 38-20. Game changed when it was 19-15 and Jennings went to bench with two fouls. Albertus starting 5 can hang but def not their bench
Yale dominates... big win over Albertus. 112-63. Yale was too fast, big, and deep for Albertus. Like I said in a different room; great experience for the guys on the team. All they need to do is take care of the conference and they will have a chance to prove themselves in the tournament.
Key reserves, Kenny armstead and spencer smith flunk off team. Watson in street clothes for his flagrant foul vs Yale and will sit this one out against Worcester st
Albertus beats Worcester minus their best player not playing, Darius Watson
Norwich trip to DC area.
Cadets face on Stevenson university today....one of toughest opponents in this season OOC game.
Mastangs clinch to Skidmore 90-79 in last game.
That's not saying much seeing as Stevenson is 6-4, and 1-4 in its new conference.
Lol tellem Pat!
Stevenson tops Norwich 80-61.
Mastangs was bigger,tougher,athletically than Norwich.
Cadets will host StJoe in Saturday game.
Most teams are bigger, tougher, and more athletic than the cadets
Albertus is 2-0 after the long break. Winning a close one at home without Watson and then pulling away from JWU in the second game. Albertus, once again, looks like the best team in the conference. However, they have some tough games coming up agaisnt an improved Suffolk club, St. Joe's of Maine, and a more talented Emerson team. Should be fun match-ups for falcon fans to watch. The lost of Armstead and Smith means that Albertus losses a lot of size and defense presence. They don't lose much scoring, but Smith and Armstead both defended well, rebounded well, and were fantastic in transition.
Let's see who steps up for Albertus. They have a few guys on the bench who can play. Also, interesting to see how Oliver mixes and matches with other teams. We may see a lot of 3 guard looks, with Watson at the four. A healthy Dugas will help a lot and Jimmy E has been on fired lately from the field. Lora is motivated, if he stays focused and healthy, he can be a difference maker. Lets see how the team improves and gells as they play into mid February.
Dugas looks like a new player this semester
Dugas is playing a lot better... Albertus wins in Me (92-74 over the Monks of St. Joe's).
Watson was unreal, Larson is playing great. Jimmy E is stepping up. Lora and Jackson are very consistent and they keep the team grounded.
Albertus cruising in game against rivier. Were up 26 in first half. Bench players playing in second half so Riv has made it look a lot closer than it actually is. Watson got hurt about 10 mins in, looks like a rolled ankle, early night for him, but Albertus still dominated. 31 in a row against GNAC opponents now. The GNAC has never seen a program like this in its history. And Albertus came from the bottom, 2-24 in 2005. Mitch Oliver is unreal. The guy is a young up and coming coach who possibly may be headed to bigger basketball programs(D1). I'm going to say last yrs team with askew and Watson, Lora,Jackson, and the rest of the gang is the best team in GNAC history. Hopefully Watson is back Saturday, I would hate to see their streak ended when their not at 100 percent, but injuries and Albertus themselves seems to be the only thing that can stop this dominant program at the moment
Great job by Mitch. He recruited local and got guys who were committed to the program. It is nice how he built the team and how he gets guys who fit his style of play. The team looks like they love playing for him and he is hard on them. Suffolk looks like a solid team, should be a great game next week at the Nest. Hopefully, Watson is 100% soon. Solid win by Albertus tonight. Keep it going!
Albertus rolls again; they beat Emmanuel 97-90; Watson scored 5 points and fouled out. But, Albertus was too much for the Saints.
St. Joes's hangs on for one point win at Rivier 56-55
Norwich beats Mt. Ida 79-70
JWU continues its hot streak rolling past Emerson
Lasell gets its first GNAC win beating Suffolk 71-65. Lasell has been playing much better lately and Suffolk has been struggling
After a 3-0 week, Albertus remains in the 19th spot in this week's polls.
Albertus needs to stay focus and continue playing well and winning.
No real surprises in the GNAC last night. The top teams are beginning to separate themselves. It looks like Albertus, Johnson and Wales, and Anna Maria are looking like the teams that have the best shot at winning the GNAC. Still plenty of season left and St. Joe's is always a well coached team and Emerson will be tough this year as well.
Tue., Jan. 15
Emmanuel 61
Johnson & Wales (RI) 74
Final
Suffolk 76
Albertus Magnus 95
Final
Norwich 59
Emerson 68
Final
Mount Ida 50
Saint Joseph's (Me.) 69
Final
Rivier 50
Anna Maria 57
Final
Standings
Albertus Magnus 8-0
Johnson & Wales (RI) 7-1
Anna Maria 5-2
Emerson 5-2
Saint Joseph's (Me.) 5-3
Emmanuel 3-4
Suffolk 2-4
Rivier 2-5
Norwich 1-6
Lasell 1-6
Mount Ida 1-7
Funny how all the Emerson, Norwich, Suffolk, JW, Emmanuel posters don't post on this thread at all anymore lol. Albertus has taken over the GNAC, and this thread!
It makes the thread kind of boring... Would like to hear about what is happening at other schools. Players making a splash, recruitment, etc...
Albertus will be losing some key pieces this year.. let's hope that a new class of freshmen is ready to step in.
Albertus 91 Emerson 67.... Albertus was ready for the new look Emerson team. Albertus was too experience, forced a lot of turnovers and had good looks at the basket all day long. Albertus continues their impressive dominates in the GNAC....
Next up: A scary Anna Maria team. Albertus only plays the AMCats once during the regular season. They last faced each other in the GNAC Championship game last February. Albertus ran away with it. AMCats has a lot of athletes and I think have this gamed circled, since the scheduled came out. Anna Maria just beat St. Joe's in Maine and will be ready.
Should be a very good game on Monday in Paxton.
Excited for the game Monday vs the AMCats. Hopefully I'll get a chance to catch some of it? Does Anna Maria provide a live feed?
They didn't last year, so I am not sure. They have a live stats feature.
Anna Maria takes it hard to Albertus and pulls off the upset. The game was tied with under 5 mins left and Anna Maria made lay up after lay up to stop the 35 game conference win streak by the falcons in GNAC play.
Give Anna Maria all the credit. The outrebounded the falcons by 20 including 18 offensive rebounds that led to 16 second chance points. I thought Anna Maria would give the Falcons the most trouble in the GNAC. However, I still believe Albertus won't lose a home game. So, it is important for them to get the 1 seed. They still controll their own destiny.
What this means for:
Albertus - they will drop out of top 25 and probably won't get back up there this year (even if they run the table). Because of the unbalance schedule they won't have an opportunity to avenge their lost during the regular season. They have St. Joe's at home and JWU on the road. Probably their two toughest games left. This lost could be a blessing.. Now, Coach Oliver can work these guys and they will need to work in practice to improve their weakness. No longer can their talent just get them by.
Anna Maria - After getting blown out of last year championship game, they now believe they can win the conference. They are on a roll, and they have beaten JWU and ST. Joes in last year playoff. They now believe they can beat anyone.
JWU - a golden opportunity to win the GNAC regular season. They have Albertus at home the final game of the year. They also have Anna Maria next saturday on the road.
The rest of the GNAC - Albertus is no longer invincible.. Teams have to attack them. Out work them on the glass and force them to beat you at the line and you have a shot.
Great end to the regular season comin up
yeah Dave on Hoopsville just asked Mitch about continually getting outrebounded and it finally caught up to them.
Much like you, as long as they maintain the number 1 seed I think they'll be ok. The biggest thing I see from this (along with the inevitable permanent drop out of the top 25) is that if they do make the NCAA Tourney, they could be the team playing the first round host instead of the middle-neutral game like they did last year.
Hopefully they get it together!
Agree completely - I could almost see Magnus right now playing the Amherst/Williams/Middlebury winner at their place - that would be brutal. The other thing that loss does is maybe take the safety net away? They are no longer a lock for an at large if they slip up in the GNAC tourney.
Exactly my thought. I thought to last season and instead of playing St Joes of LI in Middlebury, they'll be the one playing Middlebury first.
I think with their recent success (2 first round wins in the past 3 years) that with a clean slate but a slip in the tourney they would have received consideration, but not now especially without a brand name like Ray Askew.
WPI, I am enjoying the run your guys are putting together. Rooting hard for them. I couldn;t agree more, the reality is Albertus plays in a weak conference and has a poor SOS and Massey ranking. We will have to wait to see where they rank when regional rankings come out. But, it looks like they will need to win the conference to make the national tournament.
And yes, the odds of playing a tough first round opponent has increase. All they can do now is keep winning games and getting better.
Dave, how good was Askew!
TOO GOOD! lol I remember seeing him as a freshman and thinking "How did this kid end up at Albertus?" At that point I had seen more entertaining, dunk-filled basketball games when I was in high school in Waterbury, and I was almost bored by the AMC games. As stated earlier in the thread though, I don't think any of this happens without Mitch. What he's done with the program is sensational!
I agree, Mitch is the key. by the way, Mitch was kicked out of the game vs Anna Maria with 12 mins left and up 2. If he is coaching down the entire game, I think Albertus might have won.
Askew grew 4 inches from senior year in hs to his freshmen year in College. He was a stud from day one. He was so good and smooth. He had a great career here. Watson is probably a better scoring at this point. Watson has a D1 body and is a beast ni the post. He is also shooting very well from three point land. He is hard to guard. If you remember Dave, Albertus had a 7-0 lead vs Middlebury in VT in the tourney last year. Watson picked up two early fouls and had to go to the bench. When he returned Middlebury was up 17.
I just remember that as quick as it was 7-0 AMC, even quicker it was 9-7 Middlebury and that was that haha
That was that!! This year's team is not as good as last year... So, I am not sure what to expect if they make the tournament.
Albertus falls to Suffolk 92-91...did anyone see it? What happened??
Crickets....very quiet board...
GnacAlum,
Albertus played a solid offensive game; they just didn't play defensive well. Usually, they have a 5 minute stretch where they pull away because they create bad shot attempts and turnovers and get easy baskets in transition. This didn't happen at Suffolk. Suffolk killed them with the pick and roll. Albertus didn't have an answer for it and this cost Albertus the game. Albertus had ball with 16 seconds left down 1. Watson got the ball about 30 feet away from basket was doubled and turned the ball over and that was the game. He tried dribbling out of the double instead of passing. I don't blame him he was unstoppable up until that point, give them credit.
Albertus will have to fight for the GNAC championship this year. Teams are no longer afraid of Albertus and are excuting.
You're a ball player - tell me does a lost like this kill a team or make them stronger?
Abertus bounces back with a good effort at Rivier. Anna Maria wins its 11 straight game; they haven't lost since Dec 6 at JWU. They are on a roll and hot. Last year, Anna Maria was very inconsistent, this year it looks like they have confidence and are winning easy.
Knew this board would be quiet with AMC being off until the 9th...
"Albertus will have to fight for the GNAC championship this year. Teams are no longer afraid of Albertus and are excuting."
Just reflecting on this compared to last years team and 2010 - I think a big key is that there is no number 2 that can shoulder the offensive load. In 2010, after Ray Walden or even Byron could take over for stretches and make teams pay for eyeing on Ray. Obviously last year when teams focused too much on Ray, Darius could drop 20 in a heartbeat. Darius has obviously moved into Ray's role offensively but there's no clear cut number 2. Arshad and Jennings seem to do ok for stretches (keeping in mind that Jennings is a freshman) but if Darius is off I can see the team struggling offensively.
Plus the team never really plays defense anyway. They just look to outscore haha
Dave, I agree with you. There is no number 2 scorer; that hurts them in a big spot (i.e. at suffolk). But, this isn't the start of the season, this has been the case all year long. And Albertus did win a game without Watson playing. So, I don't think not having the number 2 scorer is the reason they have lost two GNAC games. I think teams aren't afraid. Most of these teams, looked at Albertus and knew they were losing. Not the case anymore.
And Albertus did play solid team defense. They create a lot of steals and force bad shoots (it's not Wisconsin defense), but it is affective. It allowed them to run and get easy points. They need to get back to that. Big game this weekend at home and next week in Providence to finish out the year.
Appreciate the insight! Now that I'm not on campus and 45 minutes away from any home game my opinions come off of box scores and recaps!
I know it isn't the GNAC, but I worked at the Newbury/Wheelock game last night.
Wheelock had only 8 players dressed for the game, but hung in their for about 35 minutes before losing by about 20. Neither team has a home gym, and the game had to be played at Pine Manor College.
Either way, not a whole lot of talent or size on either team, but Newbury could run and drove the hoop pretty hard. They also have a 6'7 300 pound big man who takes up a lot of space.
6'7 300 pounds... The kid should have signed his letter to play for Ole Miss yesterday like everyone else did.
The first Regional Rankings:
Northeast
1 WPI 21-0 21-0
2 Amherst 20-2 20-2
3 Williams 18-2 20-2
4 Middlebury 16-1 19-1
5 Rhode Island College 18-3 18-3
6 Brandeis 15-5 15-5
7 MIT 15-4 16-4
8 Curry 15-6 15-6
9 Westfield State 15-4 17-4
10 Springfield 15-7 15-7
11 Eastern Connecticut 14-4 14-7
12 Albertus Magnus 20-2 20-3
What this means is that Albertus nor Anna Maria will make the NCAA tournament without winning the conference. Too many teams ahead of them; so, win the conference and your in. Lose it and you go to ECAC.
With all the hoopla going over on the NESCAC boards, Albertus went on the road and beat Coast Guard. Surprised to see their record is so poor. They're usually a decent squad and regardless the sport, CG is always a different team at home. Good to see the Falcons get the win despite the break with all the snow.
Was curious to what you think pjunito (or whoever else wants to chime in), in the latest top 25 AMC was the first team out - If they roll through the GNAC tournament and dispatch Anna Maria on the way, think there's ANY shot they could avoid the host team of a pod in the first round? If they win out I'd imagine they'd creep to 20ish right? Or does the loss to Suffolk pretty much cement them playing a host team regardless?
Obviously this depends heavily on who ultimately gets in, but what do you think?
The losses to Suffolk and Anna Maria hurt them for 2 reasons....
1) Anna Maria will finish first and host the championship game (if they get there).
2) If Albertus wins in the first round (vs. Rivier), they could have a rematch with Suffolk (the #6 who will face #3 Emerson).
It should be interesting.....
Hey Dave, I don't think Albertus sees the top 25 again this year... They won 7 games in a row after the Yale lost and moved up one spot while all these teams around them were losing. Look at Boise State and Gonzaga, they never really move up when other teams have tougher schedules. Albertus doesn't have a great win and has a bad lost. This keeps them from moving up into top 25 in my opinion.
I agree with you GNAc, very interesting. Anna Maria can clinch first place with a win at home this week. They should beat Mt. Isdda easily.. Albertus clinches the two seed with a win. Here is something that is interesting.. Would you rather play JWU/St. Joe's in second round or Suffolk/Emerson? I think Albertus matches up very well at home with Suffolk or Emerson; they beat Suffolk by 19 and Emerson by 24 at home this year. Anna Maria will have a tough test with JWU or St. Joes.
What do you guys think?
Albertus may be the first one out of the Top 25... but their point total is really low which means a lot of the voters have to buy in to put them in. There are too many other teams that could get votes to move AM back into the Top 25... and I agree that I don't think that will happen before the NCAA tournament.
D-mac, at this point in the year, the top 25 doesn't mean much, regional rankings are the key. Albertus is ranked 12 in the Northeast, which let's face it means they need to win their conference tournament. No way they get a at large bid.
GNAC conference tournament set:
First round: Tuesday, Feb 19
Semi Finals: Thursday, Feb 21
Championship Game: Saturday, Feb 23
All games at higher seed
#1 Anna Maria host #8 Emmanuel
#2 Albertus Magnus host #7 Rivier
#3 Johnson and Wales host #6 Suffolk
#4 Emerson host #5 St. Joe's
Quote from: pjunito on February 16, 2013, 08:34:20 PM
GNAC conference tournament set:
First round: Tuesday, Feb 19
Semi Finals: Thursday, Feb 21
Championship Game: Saturday, Feb 23
All games at higher seed
#1 Anna Maria host #8 Emmanuel
#2 Albertus Magnus host #7 Rivier
#3 Johnson and Wales host #6 Suffolk
#4 Emerson host #5 St. Joe's
What happened to St. Joes this year?? Normally their near the top of the standings not going on the road in round 1. Something in the water up there in that area?? A perennial LEC bottom dweller Southern Maine gets a first round home game and a perennial GNAC top team goes on the road for a first round game.
7,
St. Joe's always played great defense and run a strong triangle offense. In the games they lost, they shot the ball awful from the perimeter. They lost a lot of road games, some to really bad teams, and are not the same team away from Maine. However, they will beat Emerson.
I think we will see JWU at Albertus and St. Joe's at Anna Maria on Thursday.
My predictions...
Anna Maria beats Emmanuel
Albertus beats Rivier
Suffolk beats JWU
Emerson beats St. Joe's
This would set up pretty interesting 2nd round match-ups -
Emerson already beat Anna Maria earlier in the season and Suffolk beat Albertus by 1 a few weeks ago - pretty interesting games if it plays out this way!!
I'll take Anna Maria, Albertus, J&W & St. Joes tomorrow.
I say St. Joes beats Anna Maria, Albertus beats J&W in the semi's, then Albertus beats St. Joes in the finals.
Semifinal and final predictions subject to change based on how tomorrow plays out though.
7,
you living in my head!!!! I agree with your predicitions..
I know everyone in new Haven wants to see Suffolk come to Albertus on Thursday.... They want to see Albertus avenge their regular season lost in Boston.. I know one guy who said he will sleep at the gym to get the best spot for that game. But, I don't see JWu losing at home. I think St. Joe's beats Emerson (Emerson too young to win this game, even at home). Albertus and Anna Maria should have little trouble with their opponents tonight.
GNAC Quarterfinal results from Tuesday:
#1 Anna Maria 85, #8 Emmanual 76
#2 Albertus 84, #7 Rivier 65
#3 JWU 72, #6 Suffolk 71
#5 St. Joes 73 , #4 Emerson 68, OT
Anna Maria was tied late and finished on a run under 3 minutes left to win.
JWU was up 15 with 6 mins left, Suffolk tied it at 67 with 1:01 left, JWU hit some big shots and fouled up 3 with 8 seconds left.
St. Joes and Emerson played a good game, ugly to start but strong defense.
Albertus led the entire way, up 24 at one point in second half.
GNAC SEMIFINAL ACTION – Thursday, February 21
#1 Anna Maria 75, #5 St. Joseph 63
#2 Albertus 104, #3 JWU 77
Championship Game - Saturday, February 23
#2 Albertus at #1 Anna Maria
I think this is the game all fans could have asked for... the best two teams in GNAC, Anna Maria beat Albertus the only time they played this year. It was in Paxton; a very good back and forth game. It was tied with 4 minutes remaining when Anna Maria pulled away and hit their free throws late. Anna Maria is Athletic and has a lot of confidence, winning 16 straight games. Albertus has won the GNAC 2 out of the last 3 years, including a blow-out victory last year over the AMCats. This should be a great game, I think this game will be tight and if it comes down to coaching, Albertus has a huge edge. I think Albertus will come out aggressive, and very confident they can win on the road. They will be able to score, the key is on the defensive edge. I think they will concentrate on preventing wide open looks from 3 point range like in the first game. Either way, I think lots of scoring and much better game than last year.
Albertus goes on the road and avenges their lost with an 87-80 win. Watson scored 30+ and Jennings came up huge in the 2nd half.
PJunito, were you at the game? Do you have any idea what Lora or Jimmy said to earn those two technicals late in the game? Either it's worse than I can imagine or those refs wanted the game to be about them? Its the last 3 minutes of a conference title game. When questionable calls are made the kids are gonna be upset. Need to take the game into consideration. Also, the AMCat announcers didn't say anything about it but you could see the AMCat coach jawing at Mitch after the techs. Any idea why?
We await the selection show!
I was at the game. What a great game and better atmosphere; two good teams, passionate fans, it was great! The AMCats fan were in full force, but Albertus had one section and made a lot of noise.... It was great!
Lora deserved his technical, he cursed at the offical. Dumb mistake on his part, but he looked right at the official and used the magic words, can't blame anyone for calling that, regardless of the score or time or kind of game.
Now, the technical on Jimmy, may be the worst call I've seen in collegiate basketball. Jimmy had just picked up his 5th foul and it was a stupid foul. He was walking off the court, taking his jersey out, and said .... to himself. The official immediately t'd him up and ran across the court.. he gave no explanation to Mitch. That is when the other coach started yelling saying give him (coach oliver) a technical.. Screaming at him.
Very dumb fouls down the stretch by Albertus, but they hung on. Watson took over the second half, scoring 11 straight points. Jimmy E and Jennings hit back to back three pointers to pull away with under 5 left. Larson hit two big free throws up 5 with 1:30 left, he knocked down two to push the lead back up to 7.
Anna Maria's fan were classy at the end; they gave Albertus and their own team big hands; many of them wished Albertus luck in the NCAA's...
Speaking of the tournament, this team is not as good as last year's team which lost in the second round. If they win one or two games, all the credit goes to Coach Oliver. He is a division 1 coach and maybe giving him a week to prepare for a team might give him an edge. Let's see. Selection show coming on Monday.
Was with Lora last night, and of course I asked "what did you say to get that tech?" He said "honest to God, I said nothing, I started clapping and they T'd me up." Amcats coach has lost twice to Mitch in GNAC finals, he seems bitter
Very bitter!
Quote from: GnacBballFan on February 24, 2013, 09:10:50 AM
Was with Lora last night, and of course I asked "what did you say to get that tech?" He said "honest to God, I said nothing, I started clapping and they T'd me up." Amcats coach has lost twice to Mitch in GNAC finals, he seems bitter
he said nothing and got a "T"?
Quote from: Charles on February 24, 2013, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: GnacBballFan on February 24, 2013, 09:10:50 AM
Was with Lora last night, and of course I asked "what did you say to get that tech?" He said "honest to God, I said nothing, I started clapping and they T'd me up." Amcats coach has lost twice to Mitch in GNAC finals, he seems bitter
he said nothing and got a "T"?
Actions speak louder then words.
Quote from: 7express on February 24, 2013, 09:04:16 PM
Quote from: Charles on February 24, 2013, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: GnacBballFan on February 24, 2013, 09:10:50 AM
Was with Lora last night, and of course I asked "what did you say to get that tech?" He said "honest to God, I said nothing, I started clapping and they T'd me up." Amcats coach has lost twice to Mitch in GNAC finals, he seems bitter
he said nothing and got a "T"?
Actions speak louder then words.
Yes, they do.. And he cursed. lol.
Could definitely see Chi saying something haha. But I absolutely believe you when you say Jimmy didn't say anything. I saw him throw his hands up but you could tell he was upset with himself more than the call. Oh well, they got through it and held on.
Hoping they avoid one of the NESCAC juggernauts in the first round haha since they were beaten pretty handily last year and this team is weaker.
I don't think they will play one of those teams in the first round... I think those teams will get "weaker" opponents. I think Albertus will head south, to NY, NJ, or PA.
Quote from: pjunito on February 24, 2013, 10:46:59 PM
I don't think they will play one of those teams in the first round... I think those teams will get "weaker" opponents. I think Albertus will head south, to NY, NJ, or PA.
I could see them playing somebody like Purchase (Skyline champ), Old Westbury (if they make it), or Cabrini (CSAC champ). IF they wanted to keep them in region (not likely, but who knows), I think MIT or RIC would be potential opponents for them. Only about 13:20 until we can end the speculating and know for real!
Albertus will head to PA to take on Alvernia. Just looking at their team statistics, seems much like the game 3 years ago against Willy P. Very balanced scoring (three guys in the 13-14 range, one at 11) and the numbers point to a defensive team. I think William Paterson was the best statistically on defense that year. Alvernia is only 5th in their conference in scoring but despite that they're 1st in point margin because they only give up 62 a game. They only shoot 44% from the field and 65% from the FT line. Not very big, no one runs above 6'6 and they start 2 guys under 6 ft at 5'9 and 5'11. Just at first glance it seems like it should be a good game and nothing the Falcons should be afraid of (besides the 4 hour bus ride haha).
Alvernia was the number 1 team in their region... Albertus was not ranked in their region... However, Albertus plays in a much bigger and probably better region. So, I wouldn't read too much into that. I think this is a classic 8 vs 9 or 7 vs 10 game (if this was D1). Both teams look on paper pretty even. Alvernia plays 7 guys, that is it. Alvernia starts 2 guards and 3 forwards. Their best two players are Brian Parker and Lamont Clark, Parker is a 6-5 junior who has shot the ball well recently; he scored 27 and 30 in the semi final and championship games (his best scoring performance). Clark is a 5'11 sophomore guard. They start three juniors and two sophomores, and have two guys coming off bench, a 6'6 center who avgs 5 mins and a freshmen who avgs 9 mins over last 5 games.
I think this is a great match-up for Albertus. Albertus likes to score and when they get into the 80's usually win a lot. Alvernia plays solid defense, keeping most opponents to the mid 50 range. The key will be, imo, can Albertus score 80 points. If they do, I don't see Alvernia scoring more than that to beat Albertus. Next post will have some match-up situations.
That's what I was thinking related to a D1 format. I watched a little of their championship game from their site. Offense was a lot of iso/screens and seeing if the guy with the ball can make a play. When that didn't work they'd try to find Parker. I think Chi will be huge inside altering shots defensively, and just being there offensively since they don't have anyone that big.
Looking forward to your next post!
Over the next few days I will give my breakdown of the game:
Here is what I will cover....
Alvernia Defense vs Albertus Offense
Albertus Defense vs Alvernia Defense
Experience
Home Court Advantage
And the keys to the game
I will start with Coaching.. in my next post.
1. Coaching: Mitch Oliver is a heck of a coach - he can plan and prepare for other teams. You give him 5 days to watch film and develop a gameplan and 9 out of 10 times, his team will win. However, Coach Miller is a great coach; he has a 144-73 record as the coach at Alvernia. He lost two years ago in the first round of the NCAA's in overtime and won the ECAC South tournament last year. This year, he has 4 guys who didn't average over 17 minutes last year starting (including one new comer in Bennett) and has this team as the No. 1 ranked team in his region. He has also coached very talented players in the past and I am sure will have his team ready to play. What he accomplished this year is great, taking a team that had new players playing significant minutes and winning the regular season and conference tournament crown is quite a coaching achievement. Two very good coaches going at it.
Alvernia plays in the MAC commonwealth conference...
Here is a link to their end of year awards:
http://www.gomacsports.com/news/2013/2/22/MBB_0222134907.aspx
Listen I'm an Albertus fan but not being bias here. The fact Darius Watson didnt win POY in GNAC is a complete, insane joke. Click is a good player, Watson a superstar. Big difference. Watson avg more points and rebounds and then in title game shut click down, while Watson put amc on there back with 34 points and 12 boards. What a joke.
Well Said... Watson is clearly the best player in the conference... Take Watson off the team and Albertus finishes 4th or 5th in conference.
+1
Completely agree. I was shocked to say the least. The only thing I can think of is their thought process (that is not right by any means) that Darius is just gonna clean house next year. But he was the better player this year regardless.
I never really get the GNAC's voting. I'm not sure if you guys follow soccer (I played at AMC) but this year a kid named Mike Skelton from Suffolk received GNAC POTY because he led the league in goals with 14. Stephen Zapata from Albertus had one less goal at 13, 9 more assists for a total of 7 more points. Stephen also had 6 game winning goals while Skelton had 5. And granted it's after the GNAC awards are announced, but Zapata was named a 2012 Second Team All-American and a 2012 NEISL All-Star. Those stories are on the GNACs website with nothing about Skelton. It's a shame if you ask me.
Skelton was from Lasell*
We get more wrapped up in the awards than maybe the players and coaches do. But, I think if you asked most fans of the GNAC who the player of the year was.. they would have said Watson..
And Dave, I agree, they would have said Zapata was as well.
2. Alvernia Defense vs Albertus Offense:
I have not seen Alvernia play at all, but looking at their stats over the last 5 games and video highlights from online; they look like a team that prides themselves on man to man defense. They play a small line-up which probably helps them with pick and roll defense. They probably have 4 guys who can defend all 5 positions on the court. They also rebound the ball very well for such a small line-up (starters go 5'9, 5'11, 6'1, 6'4, 6'5). They average 7 steals, 3 blocks, and force 13 turnover per game. Albertus is an offense that loves to go inside to its Big man Lora. Give him a few touches, get him going, and open things up from the perimeter. But, let's face it, Darius Watson is the best scorer Albertus has and usually the best scorer on the court. He will be hard to handle inside and out. Albertus does average 13 turnovers per game. Alvernia is quick and athletic and can convert those turnovers into easy points.
I think the question to ask will be: Will Alvernia play man to man and hope their speed can stop the inside game or go to a zone? I think they play man to man and hope Bridgers and Parker can contain Watson and Lora in the inside game.
ECAC pairings:
#8 Emerson @ #1 Westfield
#7 USM @ #2 Anna Maria
#6 Johnson & Wales @ #3 Eastern Connecticut
#5 Wentworth @ #4 Castleton
Anna Maria did not put in to host the finals, so if Westfield loses and Eastern wins, Eastern is hosting the semi's and the finals March 2-3. Quarterfinal games Wednesday, February 27 at 7.
Good luck to Anna Maria!
Thanks Punto - I had been looking for the ECAC's. Do you know the women's match-ups?
Quote from: WPI89 on February 26, 2013, 04:27:52 PM
Thanks Punto - I had been looking for the ECAC's. Do you know the women's match-ups?
#8 Albertus @ #1 Castleton
#7 Endicott @ #2 Suffolk
#6 Salve Reginia @ #3 Wellesley
#5 Westfield @ #4 Roger Williams
As someone new to the d3boards, and more specifically reading some of the posts about the GNAC, it seems to me that there is considerable bias towards Albertus Magnus as opposed to the other schools.
In numerous posts, I have heard that people seem to believe Oliver is a great coach. From an outside observer, I beg to differ. He is a UNBELIEVABLE recruiter getting players of the likes of Askew, Watson, etc., but I believe he has just has the more talented team and plays an uptempo style that favors his teams athleticism as opposed to "outcoaching" others. With the talent that he has brought in over the past couple years, his teams should go undefeated in the GNAC. There may be people are that are over his teams and his own antics. I had some free time, so I decided to check an obscure season statistic on Albertus. They were given 23, I repeat 23 technicals this year as a team. I always thought D3 basketball was about sportsmanship and integrity, and 23 T's doesnt exactly scream sportsmanship and integrity.
I also noticed quite the uproar over Watson not receiving POY. So not knowing the actual statistics of either player, I compared Click from Anna Maria and Watson from Albertus. Watson had the edge in ppg 23.1 to 19.4 for click. Watson also shot the ball at an outstanding percentage of 55% but click also shot the ball at a 50% clip. But click averaged more rebounds, dished out almost 3 times as many assists, averaged almost twice as many blocks, lead the league in steals and had a better assist to turnover ratio. It seems Watson is the premier scorer in the conference, but if you look at the complete package, Click seems to have the upper edge. Also, voting is generally done right after the regular season in most conferences, so at that point Anna Maria was the #1 seed so Click probably benefited from it as well.
Someone said that if you take Watson off Albertus they are a 4 or 5 seed, what do you think would happen in Click wasn't on Anna Maria??
These boards are def bias towards Albertus, but you wanna know why? Bc Albertus has dominated the gnac for four years. Winning 3 titles, and the only one of those four years they lost in the semis with no askew(flu), no Lora, econopolus, or dugas. All of these three were suspended for the yr. or Albertus might have been on a 4 yr streak.
As far as Mitch Oliver goes. I went to Albertus from 04-08. I kid you not when I tell you those teams would have lost to my high school team, it was a joke. Go look at those teams records. Enter Oliver, and obv we know what he has done. 3 titles and two NCAA wins with a 3rd pending. He recruits the hell out of the area and has gotten fine talent, but here's where your wrong. Last yr Albertus lost to Edgar mevers, on a buzzer beater, there only regular season loss. Want to know why? Bc Oliver wasn't coaching that game, two T's prior game(ill approach this). Them this yr he gets two at Ana Maria, early in 2nd half, they lose. Oliver's first GNAC title in 2010, Albertus loses last game of yr to rivier, again with no Oliver. First round and next game they gave same Riv team and win by 20. He prepared his team for William Patterson that yr perfectly, and amc led all game before winning on a buzzer beater. He has complete control of his guys and what they run, and of you think it's just talent, your sadly dead wrong. A 2-23 team for yrs doesn't just turn things around on talent alone. In fact the key win that turned the whole program around was against a good trinity team, that was up nine on Albertus until Oliver started pressing with askew on the baseline five yrs ago. It jump started the program. I've seen many players become inelgible grade wise and also personal reasons not being able to play, and Oliver has overcome that.
Anyone who has seen Watson play, knows Watson is a step above Click. It's fine, bc Watson rather have his GNAC title he beat click out for last Saturday by dominating him.
Mitch gets his T's there is no doubt about that. But it's who he is as a coach, it's his personality. And guess what, it's worked. All that sportsmanship is great, but lets get real, if that's what it were all about, why keep score? The guy wins, and wears his emotions on his sleeve, like a lot of others. Of ppl are tired of his antics, and this board being bias, then someone else beat this guy in the gnac
Quote from: 7express on February 26, 2013, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: WPI89 on February 26, 2013, 04:27:52 PM
Thanks Punto - I had been looking for the ECAC's. Do you know the women's match-ups?
#8 Albertus @ #1 Castleton
#7 Endicott @ #2 Suffolk
#6 Salve Reginia @ #3 Wellesley
#5 Westfield @ #4 Roger Williams
Thanks 7, How did Western's women do?
Good luck to WPI in the NCAAs, WPI...
The board is biased towards Albertus because we're the only ones who post here ;D
Eslaps, welcome to the thread and the boards...
It is good to get other opinions on this thread, I remember a few years ago there were many JWU and Emerson supporters and we had great discussions. Unfortunately, Albertus supporters are the only ones who are posting. I encourage you to continue to post.
I do disagree with a few things you said.
1. Mitch Oliver is a very good coach; he is a great recruiter, but a very good x's and o's guy. The competition in the GNAC is weak and Albertus seems like a run and gun type of a team, allowing their athleticism to take over. However, Mitch prides himself in defensive transition - turning steals and long rebounds into easy scoring opportunities. That is because, his team can play that style. 3 years ago, Albertus had a first round match-up with a very talented William Patterson team, a team that could score. Mitch had a game plan to slow them down, to play a princeton style offense, and give them an opportunity to win the game late. That's what they did. He prepares and I think he does it better than anyone in the GNAC.
2. Conference POY is voted by coaches who watch each team play, not a group of reporters. Stats are important but also watching these guys perform. Click is a good player, Watson is the best player in the conference. Watson plays strong defense, he doesn't get the steals or the rebounds because he is usually guarding the best scoring option. Case in point, Watson guarded Click the entire 2nd half, while Click was taken off of Watson because he was getting to the basket to easily. If you asked every coach who the best player in the conference is, they would say Watson.. no doubt in my mind. And to be honest, if you remove Click from Anna maria, they are probably a 4-5 seed as well. They are not a 2-25 team, however.
3. I agree, 20+ technicals is a lot. However, I don't think you can say that means the team has no sportsmanship... Most of the technicals were warranted; but rememeber these are kids. College Athletes are not professional people (for the most part), and you have some kids who mess up. And Coach Oliver picked up his share, he works the officials. He gets emotional, he wants to win. I think many other coaches are like this as well. Overall, I think he is a strong presence on the sidelines and wants to compete. But, after every game, win or lose, they shake their opponents hands, they are not a dirty team (no cheap fouls or ugly plays), they don't get into altercations...
Just my thoughts... I would also add, that we try to be a pretty honest group. Hey, I am homer, no doubt about that. But, you will see some of us think we might lost certain games.. Look at previous post, some of us were scared of Anna Maria and I know of a few people who think we have no shot vs Alvernia.
So, it is always rosey, sunny glasses.
Well said^ and yes I'm the guy who thinks alvernia is going to be a very tough out. But if we learned anything from Byron reeves in 2010 against William Patterson, come march, things aren't the same and anything can happen
Quote from: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 12:18:25 PM
Eslaps, welcome to the thread and the boards...
It is good to get other opinions on this thread, I remember a few years ago there were many JWU and Emerson supporters and we had great discussions. Unfortunately, Albertus supporters are the only ones who are posting. I encourage you to continue to post.
I do disagree with a few things you said.
1. Mitch Oliver is a very good coach; he is a great recruiter, but a very good x's and o's guy. The competition in the GNAC is weak and Albertus seems like a run and gun type of a team, allowing their athleticism to take over. However, Mitch prides himself in defensive transition - turning steals and long rebounds into easy scoring opportunities. That is because, his team can play that style. 3 years ago, Albertus had a first round match-up with a very talented William Patterson team, a team that could score. Mitch had a game plan to slow them down, to play a princeton style offense, and give them an opportunity to win the game late. That's what they did. He prepares and I think he does it better than anyone in the GNAC.
2. Conference POY is voted by coaches who watch each team play, not a group of reporters. Stats are important but also watching these guys perform. Click is a good player, Watson is the best player in the conference. Watson plays strong defense, he doesn't get the steals or the rebounds because he is usually guarding the best scoring option. Case in point, Watson guarded Click the entire 2nd half, while Click was taken off of Watson because he was getting to the basket to easily. If you asked every coach who the best player in the conference is, they would say Watson.. no doubt in my mind. And to be honest, if you remove Click from Anna maria, they are probably a 4-5 seed as well. They are not a 2-25 team, however.
3. I agree, 20+ technicals is a lot. However, I don't think you can say that means the team has no sportsmanship... Most of the technicals were warranted; but rememeber these are kids. College Athletes are not professional people (for the most part), and you have some kids who mess up. And Coach Oliver picked up his share, he works the officials. He gets emotional, he wants to win. I think many other coaches are like this as well. Overall, I think he is a strong presence on the sidelines and wants to compete. But, after every game, win or lose, they shake their opponents hands, they are not a dirty team (no cheap fouls or ugly plays), they don't get into altercations...
Just my thoughts... I would also add, that we try to be a pretty honest group. Hey, I am homer, no doubt about that. But, you will see some of us think we might lost certain games.. Look at previous post, some of us were scared of Anna Maria and I know of a few people who think we have no shot vs Alvernia.
So, it is always rosey, sunny glasses.
Some teams have 0 technicals for the entire season. Not sure any technical is warranted.
Quote from: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 07:14:13 AM
Quote from: 7express on February 26, 2013, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: WPI89 on February 26, 2013, 04:27:52 PM
Thanks Punto - I had been looking for the ECAC's. Do you know the women's match-ups?
#8 Albertus @ #1 Castleton
#7 Endicott @ #2 Suffolk
#6 Salve Reginia @ #3 Wellesley
#5 Westfield @ #4 Roger Williams
Thanks 7, How did Western's women do?
Good luck to WPI in the NCAAs, WPI...
19-8 overall, 11-5 in the LEC when you include tournament games. We lost to UMass-Dartmouth in the LEC semifinals in overtime. Lost 2 road games to sub .500 teams; so if we win those 2 and win the semifinal game, were probably in the tournament. Obviously didn't put in a bid to the ECAC's because a 19-8 team would've been all but a lock to make it.
Quote from: 7express on February 27, 2013, 01:10:33 PM
Quote from: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 07:14:13 AM
Quote from: 7express on February 26, 2013, 04:46:35 PM
Quote from: WPI89 on February 26, 2013, 04:27:52 PM
Thanks Punto - I had been looking for the ECAC's. Do you know the women's match-ups?
#8 Albertus @ #1 Castleton
#7 Endicott @ #2 Suffolk
#6 Salve Reginia @ #3 Wellesley
#5 Westfield @ #4 Roger Williams
Thanks 7, How did Western's women do?
Good luck to WPI in the NCAAs, WPI...
19-8 overall, 11-5 in the LEC when you include tournament games. We lost to UMass-Dartmouth in the LEC semifinals in overtime. Lost 2 road games to sub .500 teams; so if we win those 2 and win the semifinal game, were probably in the tournament. Obviously didn't put in a bid to the ECAC's because a 19-8 team would've been all but a lock to make it.
That sucks man!
Charles, I meant that the officials were right in giving the technicals.
But, there are some coaches who have tried to used getting a technical as motivation to their players..
3. Albertus Defense vs Alvernia Offense: Most people who look at the stats probably think Albertus is an offensive minded team. Actaully, they are a defensive minded team; many of their quality scoring chances come from solid defense. Forcing long shots which turn into long rebounds and quick scoring chances or steals from their guard play. Alvernia has a few guys who have shot the ball poorly the last few games; however, have two guys who have shot the ball over 50% for the year (Parker and Clark).This team has a balance scoring attack – Bennett 14.3 ppg, Parker 13.8 ppg, Bridgers 13.7 ppg, Clark 11.3 ppg). They share the ball nicely and they get a lot of points in the paint. Odd for a smaller team. This tells me that they can penetrate very well. They don't shoot the ball very well from 3 point land (35% as a team, but they take a lot of 3 point shots – 469). I think the goal will be to have those guys take shots. Watson will be match-up on Parker for most of the night.. he completely took Anna Maria's Click out of the game on Saturday in the second half. Parker, however, is the best post player Albertus will face this year. Jennings and Economopuls will share the responsibility of slowing down Clark. I think you will see an aggressive defense to begin the game and force poor decisions. The big thing is keeping Waston on the floor, if he gets in foul trouble it will be bad news for Albertus. I think Alvernia will look to use their speed and quickness, trying to penetrate and kick out for open looks. If Alvernia is getting to the hoop easily or hitting their shots, than it might be a long night for the Falcons. However, Alvernia's offense has had stretches were they have not played well offensively. It should be fun to watch what each coach does.
Quote from: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 01:20:32 PM
19-8 overall, 11-5 in the LEC when you include tournament games. We lost to UMass-Dartmouth in the LEC semifinals in overtime. Lost 2 road games to sub .500 teams; so if we win those 2 and win the semifinal game, were probably in the tournament. Obviously didn't put in a bid to the ECAC's because a 19-8 team would've been all but a lock to make it.
That sucks man!
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Yah, we had the ball at the end of regulation and missed 2 straight layups at the buzzer then got outscored 10-0 in overtime. I would have rather lost by 50. At least then you were never in the game.
Yea, those kind of losses stay with you a long time... I still remember dropping a fly ball in the 9th that cost us a win.. You just wanna throw yourself out of a window and then replay the game a 1,00 times in your head.
How do you think West Conn bounces back next year? Men and Women.
Charles also had a hard time comprehending others on the NESCAC thread, when it was clear as day the point someone was making. Same thing here, not hard to understand what warranted means
Quote from: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 01:53:59 PM
Yea, those kind of losses stay with you a long time... I still remember dropping a fly ball in the 9th that cost us a win.. You just wanna throw yourself out of a window and then replay the game a 1,00 times in your head.
How do you think West Conn bounces back next year? Men and Women.
The men really can't do any worse last year. Have some talent there in Starks & Groski, those 2 got a lot better as the season progressed so there's hope. Hopefully coach Campbell can go out and recruit some talented kids. Need a PG though, turnovers killed us last year. I'd say they'll finish about the 3rd-6th range. Eastern will be good, RIC as always will be good. Keene you never know. Lose a bunch of guys (Rashard Wright, Ryan Martin), have a couple good ones coming back (Eric Fazio, Tom Doyle). They lack motivation so thats why their a question mark. Boston & Dartmouth have a lot of young talent. USM finished 4th they have a bunch of guys returning. Gonna be wide open.
Women I think can still finish in the upper half. USM (the conf & tourney winner) loses 3 starters, but they return a talented D-1 transfer who only a sophmore lead the conf in field goal percentage and all second team selection. They had absolutely no bench, so I think they drop from the pack. Dartmouth loses the conference player of the year but that's gonna be a very good team, probably my preseason pick. Western loses 3 starters, and the leading scorer tore her acl in February, so they might start off not so good, but they'll be up there. Boston, RIC & Eastern all have young and talented teams. Eastern's roster was pretty much all freshmen & sophmores this year and they still finished tied for 3rd. RIC was one of the conferences better defensive teams they have 4/5 starters returning, Boston has the last 2 rookie's of the year on their team. Keene loses their best player, Plymouth will still be terrible, but hopefully they can improve on their 2-40 LEC conference record the last 3 years (and no that is not a typo. 1-13 in 10/11 and 11/12, 0-14 in 12/13), and 1-24 overall record last season. I'd say Western about 2-4.
Did you have that on a word document? That's awesome stuff 7.. Thanks..
Pjunito, usually a couple days at the conclusion of the LEC season (hopefully it;s npot for another 3 or 4 weeks) I post an off-season preview where I'll rank the teams where I think they'll finish the next season based on graduations, so look out for that when RIC & USM conclude their seasons whenever that may be.
I will. I'll try to do that also for GNAC>.. As Emerson is leaving the conference.. not sure if we are adding anyone.
Great! Looking forward to how you see the GNAC shaping up next season. Also where's Emerson going again, the NEWMAC??
Correct, Emerson to the NEWMAC.
As a heads-up for those who don't already know, the Bracket Challenge is out! Our friends at d3photography.com manage our official picks contests:
http://d3photography.com/bracket_challenge/
Playing for pride, which means student-athletes and department personnel can participate.
Thanks Pat... Yea, the NEWMAC.
There has also been talking of Anna Maria leaving as well..
Quote from: 7express on February 27, 2013, 02:08:21 PM
Quote from: pjunito on February 27, 2013, 01:53:59 PM
Yea, those kind of losses stay with you a long time... I still remember dropping a fly ball in the 9th that cost us a win.. You just wanna throw yourself out of a window and then replay the game a 1,00 times in your head.
How do you think West Conn bounces back next year? Men and Women.
The men really can't do any worse last year. Have some talent there in Starks & Groski, those 2 got a lot better as the season progressed so there's hope. Hopefully coach Campbell can go out and recruit some talented kids. Need a PG though, turnovers killed us last year. I'd say they'll finish about the 3rd-6th range. Eastern will be good, RIC as always will be good. Keene you never know. Lose a bunch of guys (Rashard Wright, Ryan Martin), have a couple good ones coming back (Eric Fazio, Tom Doyle). They lack motivation so thats why their a question mark. Boston & Dartmouth have a lot of young talent. USM finished 4th they have a bunch of guys returning. Gonna be wide open.
Women I think can still finish in the upper half. USM (the conf & tourney winner) loses 3 starters, but they return a talented D-1 transfer who only a sophmore lead the conf in field goal percentage and all second team selection. They had absolutely no bench, so I think they drop from the pack. Dartmouth loses the conference player of the year but that's gonna be a very good team, probably my preseason pick. Western loses 3 starters, and the leading scorer tore her acl in February, so they might start off not so good, but they'll be up there. Boston, RIC & Eastern all have young and talented teams. Eastern's roster was pretty much all freshmen & sophmores this year and they still finished tied for 3rd. RIC was one of the conferences better defensive teams they have 4/5 starters returning, Boston has the last 2 rookie's of the year on their team. Keene loses their best player, Plymouth will still be terrible, but hopefully they can improve on their 2-40 LEC conference record the last 3 years (and no that is not a typo. 1-13 in 10/11 and 11/12, 0-14 in 12/13), and 1-24 overall record last season. I'd say Western about 2-4.
Word has it Campbell is recruiting Walter Wright from Wilby who while I don't know the high school landscape as a whole, may be the 3rd best player in the state behind Khalil Dukes and Tyshon Rogers. Also talks he was going to go prep in hopes that he can get to a low/mid D1 like Damian Saunders and Anthony Ireland. I'm hoping for the latter being a Wilby/AMC grad haha. If he realizes he's never going to go pro and just wants to enjoy playing some more basketball he'd INSTANTLY help any D3 program, especially one like Western or even Albertus.
He's been at the last couple of Wilby home games too, maybe looking at some other NVL talent?
Coach Campbell doesn't go so many years with a winning record without the ability to recruit. I am sure he will be targeting many good players from Connecticut.. I think they should have a strong class next year.
GNAC goes 1-1 against the LEC in ECAC action this evening.
Anna Maria beats Southern Maine 76-62, Johnson & Wales loses to Eastern Connecticut 85-64, getting outscored 50-24 in the second half after leading by 5 at halftime. Eastern shot 61% from the floor for the game and would have to guess was about 65 to 70% in the second half.
Emerson loses to the 1 seed Westfield state 71-52 I believe.
Anna Maria hosts another LEC school Eastern Connecticut in the semifinals Saturday afternoon at Westfield state @ 3:00 PM. Tip off of that game is around 3 PM. Westfiield vs. Castleton state is the first semifinal at 1 PM.
Thanks for the updates 7.
Good luck to Anna Maria in the second round. Should be a good game between them and Eastern.
4. Experience: We always hear how a senior led team is tough to knock out in tournament time. Albertus has 2 seniors' starters in Lora and Jackson and they have 3 coming off the bench, Jimm E, Dugas, and Sweeney. The team has been focused during the playoff run and was down as many as 14 to Anna Maria in the championship and didn't panic. Alvernia is a very young team, one senior who has seen 30 seconds of action the last week; mostly juniors and sophomores. Alvernia had a tough semi-final game erasing a 7 point deficit with 5 minutes to play (every point came at the foul line); the coach had to call a time out because he felt they were panicked and the game was over... If Albertus falls behind early, they have the seniors to keep them in the game. Can Alvernia remain under control if that happens to them?
5. Home court: Alvernia has won its last 5 games at home and is 12-2 on the year. They have a great crowd, lots of energy. They give up 62.6 points per game at home. They probably feed off their crowd especially defensively. They rebound the ball well for being a small sized team (37 rebounds a game); this means they are well coached and probably understand how important a home game is. Albertus is 9-4 on the road this year; they avg 78.5 pts in their 4 losses; down 7 points from their 85.4 season average. Alvernia will be tough at home; they are Athletic and can play defense, couple that with a loud crowd and Albertus may be in for a long night.
6. Keys to the game:
a. Foul trouble – Alvernia plays 5 guys for the most part. They bring two guys off the bench but only one has significant playing time the last few games. If Alvernia gets into foul trouble especially with their big two, it might change how they attack defensively. Albertus cannot afford to have Watson in foul trouble. Last year against Midd, he went to the bench with 10 minutes in the first half and sat the rest of the hald with two fouls. Midd was winning 15-11, Albertus was down 12 to start the second half. Watson finished with 0 points in the first half on 0-3 shooting. Watson scored on the first offensive possession in second half, then missed 4 consecutive lay-up opportunities as Midd took him out of the game, blocking shots, forcing bad shots, and altering his shot attempts. Who can keep their stars in the game?
b. Offensive rebounds – the team that wins the offensive rebound battle, in my opinion, will win the game. Both teams will take pride in defense and force the other team into poor possessions. The second and third opportunity points will be huge.
c. the stars – In order to win this game for Albertus, Watson has to play like a star. He is a beast and has the power to get to the rim, he also shoots at a 40% clip from the 3 point arc. He needs to avoid silly offensive fouls... Clark and Parker have led Alvernia during the playoffs, however, they have 4 very good players. One thing they need to do is shot the ball well from the perimeter. Clark and Parker are the leaders, these guys need to shot at a high clip; or get to the line. It won't be a good day for them, if Parker and Clark are having bad games. They have to shoot well to win.
I definitely think AMC needs to attack from the tip. It seems on the road they tend to settle for long jump shots (especially against the AMCats, hence why they went down double digits early). Probably a trend for most teams but Albertus has the talent to get to the hoop, or get it inside to Chi. Attack the hoop, force them to play in the paint. If we settle for long contested jumpers and they aren't falling, the crowds gonna let the Falcons know about it and it could be over quick.
a trend for most teams on the road*
Quote from: lildave678 on March 01, 2013, 01:07:06 PM
I definitely think AMC needs to attack from the tip. It seems on the road they tend to settle for long jump shots (especially against the AMCats, hence why they went down double digits early). Probably a trend for most teams but Albertus has the talent to get to the hoop, or get it inside to Chi. Attack the hoop, force them to play in the paint. If we settle for long contested jumpers and they aren't falling, the crowds gonna let the Falcons know about it and it could be over quick.
During this nice stretch for Magnus of 5 years, they have actually been underrated in some ways offensively. Sure, they get their fair share of points on the break off of turnovers, but what has really set them apart in the GNAC was the ability to get their athletes in
great positions to score on a nightly basis. Askew and St. Juste in years past were terrors to keep track of due to a ton of transition and quick hitter screens in the half-court. This is one of the main reasons for Magnus getting to the line so often- they execute so well, so quickly. It is tough to stretch a big lead out on a team that executes well, especially one with athletes like Magnus.
I have Darius Watson on my NCAA fantasy league team, so hopefully AMC can surprise some teams, get wins, and Watson can score a lot of points.
Saw you take him. I was kinda following the thread to see where he would go. Rooting for you because of the pick haha
I wanted him, but got screwed having the first pick, lol. I thought he'd go in the early to mid second round like 5+ above me. My eyes lit up when I saw he was still there at the end of the second round, haha.
7, I think the reason he is there is because most people don't believe Albertus will win their game vs Alvernia. And they may lose, Alvernia is very talented and Athletic and have a lot of scoring options. Not to mention play amazing defense. However, I have not seen Watson more motivated than this past week. This is now his team (It was Askew's team his first two years). He is determined to have a good game, that means he will have points, rebounds, and assists. He may have 5-7 turnover, but should finish with 26 and 8. And if they win, you get him for two games. same numbers regardless of opponents. (maybe more turnovers in second game)
Prediction: I won't predict a score, because I want Albertus win!
Alvernia is very athletic and has the best big man in Parker that Albertus will face. Albertus has one of the best scorer's in the country and the leader of the team in Watson. These teams have two very good coaches who have been studying their opponents and will have the team prepared. Both teams have limited benches and it will be imperative to keep their starters on the floor. Both teams get to the foul line and shoot at an ok percentage; experience may come into play at the line. Both teams want to control the glass and play strong defense. Albertus would like to break the 80 point mark and Alvernia will want to play in the mid to high 60's. The team that can do this will win this game. I see this as a tight game, but Alvernia's ability to rebound can help them get numerous second and third scoring opportunities. If Alvernia has over 10 offensive rebounds that lead 14 points they win the game. If Albertus holds Alvernia to less than 8 second chance points, they win the game.
Good luck to Anna Maria as they take on Eastern CT State today in semi-final of ECAC.
Quote from: pjunito on March 02, 2013, 04:42:19 PM
Good luck to Anna Maria as they take on Eastern CT State today in semi-final of ECAC.
Just went final, Eastern wins 77-65.
Yea, I saw that. Good season for Anna Maria.
Albertus falls to Alvernia 97-78 last night to end their season.
Congrats to Jimmy Eco, Jefferson Lora, Arshad Jackson, Zach Dugas, Mike Sweeney, and Kevin Rogers on a fine four years, winning 3 GNAC championship and going 2-3 in the NCAA tournament. Also, having the honor of playing on last year's team that was ranked as high as 12 in the nation at one point.
Looking back at the keys to victory, imo, Alvernia executed better than Albertus. Albertus didn't get to 80 points (they also had a lot of points when the game was already over), Alvernia out rebounded Albertus, and they also were able to get to the paint and the free throw line. The first 13 mins of the game was excited to watch, it was back and forth, with good defensive play by Alvernia and strong offensive possessions by Albertus. However, with the score tied at 26 with 8 mins left, the game changed. Alvernia finished the half with a 25-7 run to control the game. They did this by doing what they do best; they used their athleticism to get into the paint. This caused many issues for Albertus; Alvernia was able to draw fouls, get easy looks at the basket, and dish to wide open shooters behind the arc. During the 25-7 run, Alvernia went 12-12 from the free throw line; they made 35 free throws in the game. Now, for some people who didn't see the game and are just looking at the stats, I do have to same, the officials were fair, they were a solid crew. Maybe one of two questionable calls (both ways) the entire game. Alvernia simply outplayed Albertus during that 8 min stretch. Albertus settled for long quick jump shots or fade away looks or rushed passes whereas Alvernia attacked the basket and created easy scoring opportunities that lead to wide open jump shots or a foul. They also played great defense.
In hind sight, probably slowing the game down and going to Lora or Watson down low could have helped the offense.. Jennings was out of control at times shooting 4-17 from the field and had wild passes... And Coach Oliver is a man to man defensive guy, but the pick and roll killed the team. Maybe trying a zone against this team may have slowed down their offense.
Again, give all the credit to Alvernia. They played well on both sides of the ball and deserved the win. Good luck to them.
On a side note, Jimmy Eco did hurt his ankle during practice early in the week and did not play. He is a good player, strong defender, and made big shots during the season. However, imo, he doesn't make a difference. He can't guard everyone on the court.
Hello GNACers, New member to the forums here but long time D3Hoops fan. Looking forward to talking with some of the GNAC members on the forum about offseason recruiting and then another season of GNAC basketball in 2013-2014. Just to get it out of the way I am an Albertus fan because I'm from the shoreline of CT and really enjoy their style of play. Plus from where they started when Coach Oliver got the job to where they are now is truly amazing. Go Falcons!
Welcome Junkie!
The boards have been pro Albertus the last two years. Hopefully, we get more fans from the other GNAC teams.
We also have great regional contributors from the other boards.
Thanks for the welcome PJ,
I have been reading the boards for a while now and noticed that they are very pro Albertus which for us is a good thing, even though some more healthy chatter from other programs would make the boards more interesting. I heard that the Falcons are going after a lot of JUCO talent this off season with hopes of reloading after losing such a great senior class. Any thoughts on off season recruiting? I know Coach Oliver is a great recruiter and he seems to have found a nice niche in New Jersey the past couple seasons. (Mark Wilson, Rodney Wilson and going back a couple years Mike Torres)
Norwich add to class of 13 kids .
Paul Preziosi(6-2 G/F) from Middlesex Magic AAU Cardinal Spellman High(MA).
Not sure what else is happening on the recruiting front for AMC, but I just saw they have Trevon Gibbs, a 6'7 F/C from Kaynor Tech coming in this fall. According to the New England Recruiting Report he's the 42nd ranked player from the state in 2013 but if you exclude all the prep schools (the likes of South Kent, St. Thomas More, etc) he's in the 8-12 range of regular high school kids. Didn't get a chance to see him play in person but his name was always in the box score for Kaynor, which were the number 2 team in Class M heading into the state tournament. Definitely a solid addition, and I'm assuming there's much more coming from Mitch!
Hey LilDave, I was fortunate enough to see Gibbs play a few times this past high school season and I must say that he is athletic as they come. I'm not sure if his game will be able to translate into a serious threat right off the bat as a freshman but overall if he can stick with it and listen to Coach Oliver and learn from the veterans he should be a very solid player in years to come. All his damage is done at the rim. He doesn't really have a mid-range jumper at all but he makes up for it big time by finishing everything at the rim. Rumor has it Oliver is going to bring in a number of JUCO players this upcoming season. I hope so because with the loss of all those seniors, it would be nice to get players in who can immediately contribute. Also, I guarantee that Oliver brings in a few kids from Jersey. He must have some serious contacts in that area because he's been getting quality players from there the past couple seasons. Rodney Wilson should be healthy this year and he is supposed to be a really good talent. Can't wait for the season to start.
Albertus hires new AD. http://www.albertusfalcons.com/information/generalreleases/AbromaitisAD
Former player at UConn, son played at Notre Dame and is trying to make Boston Celtics.
Dave and Junkie,
What is up guys... Can't wait for November to start another basketball year. I am confident in Oliver, he is a solid recruiter. But, let's look at what he has coming back:
Darius Watson, probably best player in the conference. He has been to back to back tournament appearance and as a senior should have his best season.
Julian Saunders, this kid was having a solid season offensively and defensively before getting hurt before the playoffs. His lost was a bad one for the Falcons last year. He will be a junior, very athletic and a solid jump shooter. Also has the ability to finish around the rim.
Rodney Wilson, didn't play at all last year. Probably the most athletic kid on team. I heard he is polish and has the ability to score. Very long and strong defender. Should be a starter next year.
Jennings, had a fantastic freshmen year. He was erratic at times, but made clutch shots in the championship win vs Anna Maria. He has confidence and the ability to score. He handles the ball very well. He needs to improve his shot selection and look to pass a little more earlier in the games. He reminds me of Trey Burke from Michigian, as a freshmen trey took a lot of bad shots but wasn't afraid to take the big shot. As a second year player he made better decisions with the ball but still wanted to take a big shot. I'm not saying he is trey burke, but if he improves his shot selection, he could be deadly this year to opponents.
Larson, had a lot of minutes near the end of the year. He is a energy guy, who is good around the rim controlling rebounds. He also made huge free throws in the game vs Anna Maria. He can run the court and plays solid defense.
Starting five (with no additions) should be Jennings and Saunders at the gaurds, Watson and Wilson at the forwards, and Larson at Center. This is a solid line-up. No depth, but solid starting five.
Now Oliver has proven to bring in a solid class each year with at least one impact player.
2012 - Wilson and Jennings
2011 - Smith, Dugas, Saunders
2010 - Watson
2009 - Lora, Jackson, Jimmy Eco
2008 - Askew
If Mitch can bring in two solid guys (and one stud), wow, now you bring depth to this team and they can compete again for a GNAC crown.
Hey PJ,
Great assessment of next year starting five but I must disagree with you at one position and that is Lemar Larson. I think that you are going to see Lemar come off the bench to start the season which in my opinion actually helps him when it comes to relaxing and playing the game that we all know he is capable of. Not sure on who will play in his place yet until I know the other recruits coming in but I am going out on a limb and saying that Oliver will go to youth on the interior (possibly Trevon Gibbs) with what will be in my opinion the most athletic team that he has ever put on the floor.
In other news I know we had a few posts about recruits and Trevon Gibbs is confirmed according to NERR. It looks like Oliver scored with another combo guard in Kyle Wiggins (formally of Dean College) who apparently will play his final two seasons with Albertus. Wiggins has good size and can really score the ball but lacks a defensive presence which might hold up his game slightly. I believe that Wiggins will still be able to contribute right away and give the team good quality minutes off the bench.
The clock is ticking, Can't wait for another season. Keep the recruiting updates coming.
Junkie,
Great points regarding the team for next year. I agree that Larson will be coming off the bench, I was just throwing him in there because I had no one else. I think competition is a good thing. If Oliver can bring in 2-3 contributors right away along with some development players than this team could be solid next year and the years to come.
Where are you finding the commits to Albertus? I searched on the NERR website but didn't find anything. Would love to know if there are any other future falcons in that group.
At the end of the last year, I looked at the winning teams around the region at the D3 level. They all have very similiar teams. Let me know if you agree.
1. Very strong guard play - guys who have a high assit to turnover ratio
2. One guy who can get his shot when he needs it
3. A knock down long range shooter
4. strong team defense and chemistry
5. at least 7 players who provide productive minutes
Now compare that to last year's team:
1. Average guard play, Jackson had a great year but jennings and dugas were inconsistent
2. Darius Watson can be that guy
3. Jimmy Eco and Julian had moments, but they didn't have that guy
4. They play strong defense in most of their games but didn't turn teams over as much as in previous years
5. injuries and the lost of Armstead hurt their depth
So, from a fan point of view.. my wishlist.
1. Improvement from Jennings and recruiting a solid back-up pg who doesn't need to score but should protect the ball
2. Allow Darius to continue to grow and score
3. Recruit a guy who makes 4 three's a game (someone who keeps the defense honest)
4. Have a Miami Heat approach to defense; fg percentage is not as crucial as forcing turn-overs; especially turnover that lead to easy points)
5. Bring in 4-6 guys who can provide productive minutes. I think we all get caught up in bring in studs.. but, really we need a team. Guys who can come into a game and defend, extend leads by executing the offense, and rebound.
Thoughts?
You guys are hardcore - you do know it is the middle of July and 97 degrees out, correct?
Well done.
"See you" all in the Fall.
WPI89....surprised that you are " trolling" in this kind of weather! Want to let you know that your "recruit" for Amherst is one of an expected class of 7 players to arrive in the Fall. Will need to be ready to compete for playing time. Take care and will chat again in the Fall.
Hey PJ,
Nice insight on your last post. I'm going to go through in order with how your post was set up to give you my own thoughts and insight.
To answer your first question, NERR actually has Trevon Gibbs listed as committed to Albertus already so you probably just missed that by mistake. If you go to the website and in the top right of the page you will see rankings. Click that and then click CT, from there you will see Gibbs as the #42 prospect in the state of CT and if you go back a few posts LilDave made a nice assessment stating that "if you exclude all the prep schools (the likes of South Kent, St. Thomas More, etc) he's in the 8-12 range of regular high school kids." As I mentioned later on I got to see Gibbs play and in my opinion excluding the Preps School I would reach out a bit more and say he is in my top 15 of "regular" high school players in CT. If he had anywhere from a 10 to 12 foot jumper I believe he would have been recruited more heavily but with that being said I am really glad that Oliver was able to score this kid. He is an elite athlete and has a high motor around the rim finishing and rebounding. I look for him to develop that jumper and be a very productive player in the next few years to come.
And to answer your question about Wiggins, I heard he was a coach/counselor at the Oliver Hoop School the past couple weeks and he has stated on social media that he is going to Albertus. As far as other players are concerned I haven't been able to find anything online but I have heard a few things about a couple more guards and another "big" from NJ that is supposedly committed but I don't know their names yet.
I'll keep the board posted!
As far as your assessment of the other D3 regional teams I would say that is completely accurate and #5 has a lot to do with that particular coach's style of play.
In your assessment of last year's team I can't say that I totally agree with #1 only because Jackson's stats were good but I felt his consistency and effort for me was not there every game and specifically in important games. Spot on with Jennings and Dugas though. Jennings was a young freshman and Dugas just beat himself up too much most of the time.
#2 is spot on, we all know Darius is the man and he is the guy and will continue to be the guy
#3 Julian Sanders is going to step in and be the guy who gets 4 3 pointers a game. He shoots the ball extremely well and I think starting is going to be the best thing for his game. Also he is IMO the best player on the team when it comes to slashing and getting to the basket but need to work on his finish and touch around the rim when he does so. And if you look at the stats he quietly lead the entire conference in three point fg percentage at a staggering 48.1%.
#4 I would absolutely agree and like to see more turnovers. I believe that will happen this year.
#5 100% agree that the injuries and losses of players like Armstead really hurt their chances in the NCAA. I firmly believe that if they had the same team from start to finish the NCAA's would have been a different story.
My wish list would be to get some more depth and really work on defense and turning teams over more. We all know by now that as long as Oliver is there year in and year out Albertus will be tops in the country in scoring but as we have seen the past couple season, once you hit the NCAA tournament it is an entirely different ballgame and you must play both ends of the floor in order to compete and advance.
And to WPI89, it's never too early to start talking about college hoops LOL.
WPI... miss ya on the boards.. Hopefully it will be another entertaining year.
Junkie, you make great points. Thanks for the instructions on the NERR website. I was away on vacation, but am back now.... Only a few months away from midnight madness.
I agree with all of your points; including Jackson. I thought he had his worst game in the NCAA tournament. I look for Julian to have a big year. He takes quality shots and 48% is out of this world.
I am excited about learning who the new recruits are. I think the team is solid as is, but need a few pieces to really make a run. I think Albertus will be playing another division 1 school, that is always fun.
PJ,
Agree with you 100% on the need for Albertus to add depth to their roster. Recently added to the list of committed recruits via the NERR is Daylon Ore who attended Hartford Public and seems to really have a knack for scoring the ball. I guess he averaged around 20 points or so for Hartford Public this year. I unfortunately never had the opportunity to see him play so I don't like to talk much about a player until I actually see them play. I guess he has a pretty interesting and inspiring story that is on YouTube about him actually sustaining a gunshot wound earlier in his career at Hartford Public and being able to come back and compete and play at a high level.
Also, word on the street is that Albertus will be playing against Central Connecticut this year which should be fantastic. I'm sure Darius is excited about this game as it will take place in his hometown of New Britain CT. Should be a fun game, not sure on the date yet.
Tick Tock Tick Tock, Is it November Yet??
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Darius originally supposed to go to CCSU as well?
and here's the video Junkie was referencing. AMC gets a shoutout at the end haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXT5MAeqp14
LilDave,
If I remember correctly I think Darius was committed to the University of New Haven before the coaching change took place right before his freshman season. With that being said, I think after this game and even now if Dickenman saw what Darius has turned into under Mitch's coaching and his work ethic and transformation from a slightly overweight maybe even undersized player for what he was recruited as to what he is now, he would have made him an offer years ago. But that's the great thing about basketball and recruiting, you cant really predict how good or in some cases bad a player is going to be until they get on the court and put in the work. There is no doubt in my mind he can be playing at a school like CCSU.
Thanks for posting the video as well. Pretty interesting piece. I hope the kid works hard and succeeds, he seems like a high character guy.
Lil Dave,
Great piece on Ore.. He is coming to Albertus from what I heard.
I am excited to see what the roster looks like in the fall. Albertus has a new AD, I think this guy will bring the entire program to another level. He is a former professional basketball player and has connections.
Word on the street, open gym at Albertus on Thursday night... Maybe some of the returning and new players will be there...
WOW.......
So, they won't be ranked to start the year... But, this team might be a force.
Schedules are out here on D3Hoops.com. Thanks again to everyone from D3Hoops for keeping us D3 basketball fans in the loop. It looks like we can officially mark it on our calendars Falcon fans, Albertus will play D1 Central CT State Univ on December 29th at 1PM. Always a treat to play in these games regardless of the outcome.
Overall I think Albertus non-conference schedule is fairly strong. I wouldn't call it outstanding but I would definitely say that there are some strong matchups with both SUNY Purchase and New Jersey City. The games against Newbury and Elms are intriguing as well IMO because both programs are well respected and well coached. The conference schedule remains fairly straightforward. The biggest regular season game of the year should no doubt be the February 18th matchup at Johnson and Whales. JWU has been a very tough place for Albertus to play at over the past few years and I believe that these two teams will once again be battling in the end for the GNAC crown.
On to the team, from what I gather this might be Coach Oliver's most athletic team that he has had in his tenure at AMC. If we thought that we can run and gun before, wait until this year. The "bigs" that were brought in this offseason are athletic as they come and not one of them should cause the pace of the game to slow down which could be very scary for GNAC opponents. Still don't know all the recruits but from what I've heard there are close to 10 total recruits.
PJ - Were you referring to Albertus not being ranked to start the year in your previous post?
Hey Junkie,
Yes, I was referring to Albertus being ranked...
It looks like Albertus has a total of 8 new players: 3 who will start, four transfers.
Yes, I think this is the most athletic Albertus has been under Oliver. I think they will be really tough to defend. Eian Davis is the new point guard; he is quick, look for lots of steals. And their bigs have better feet than bigs last year. I think you can see lots of fast break opportunities... Oct 15 is almost here, we should see rosters and some practices at that point.
PJ,
Thanks for incite on the team. Eiean Davis looks like a stud and has plenty of experience under his belt. I love how Oliver is able to recruit and bring in these JUCO transfers. Most GNAC teams were probably thinking and hoping that with the loss of Albertus's senior class the conference might open up a bit more but from what I have heard and seen, this team may already be much better than last years and even years past.
I'm curious to know who you think the three new players that start will be. I don't think it will be three but that's my opinion. I think Oliver will elect to go with the players who have been with the program and understand his offense best. Oliver is so passionate and loyal to his players and the game. That doesn't mean he won't pull one of them out of a game in a split second because we have all seen that, but I really believe that Jennings, Sanders and obviously Watson will start because of their relationship with one and other and the fact that they are the foundation and leaders of this team. The other two starters for me are totally up in the air. I would love to put Lemar's name on this list but we all know about his inconsistencies, to be totally honest I think the best thing for him is to come off the bench. Less pressure and he gives us great depth.
Your thoughts? Also can you elaborate on some other recruits if you have any more info. I have heard that there is a big from a JUCO school in NJ but still haven't gotten a name.
Its official College Hoop Fans,
October 15th marks the 1st official day of organized practices and workouts. Within a month the D3 season will officially be under way and I can't wait to see how the season transpires. The last couple D3 seasons have demonstrated such parity and it has made the conference tournaments and NCAA tournament that much more exciting.
Looking forward to a great season
As always, (Since this is the GNAC thread) Go AMC Falcons!!!
Hey GNAC Fans.... It's November 1st! Hoops season is right around the corner.
I didn't go to Midnight Madness, but I have heard that Albertus has a solid looking team. Now, of course, lay up drills in October don't necessarily mean the team has any talent.. So, with that being said.. here is a breakdown of the team.
Guards:
Jennings - rising sophomore, quick guard - needs to make better shot selections
Saunders - hurt at end of year, strong defenders, shot over 45% from 3 point range
Davis - Explosive guard, transfer from ASA in NY. Strong defender and good ball handler
Jackson - Freshmen from West Haven HS, don't know to much about him
Forwards:
Watson - best player in conference last year...
Victor L. - Can't pronounce his last name, transfer student from ASA, good ball skills around the hoop
Wilson - Didn't play last year, could be most athletic player on team
Center
Gibbs - Very raw talent, big body, will get some minutes but will need work
Larson - Junior Starter, has improved each year and should continue to do so this year. Very athletic
There isn't a roster up yet on the website....
I can get more information on the other new players soon. First game is on Nov 15 at the Mitchell Tournament.
Looking forward to some more information from you PJ, as well as the roster once it's posted!
Thanks for the roster update PJ,
On Halloween night Albertus played a scrimmage against ASA which is a junior college and happens to be where 2 of our new recruits came from in Eian Davis and Victor L. (Can't spell his last name) Albertus performed quite well, they play two 20 minute halves and essentially break each 20 minutes into its own separate game. The teams split the contest one winning the 1st and the other winning the 2nd.
Eian Davis is an absolute stud, lighting quick with the ball can score and finish from multiple angles and is also a great distributor and defender.
Victor L is another great addition. Hes a legit 6'8 and can score with great post moves and strong finishes inside and also has the ability to step out and hit 3 pointers at a very good percentage.
This will hands down be the fastest and most athletic team under Coach Oliver. The starting backcourt IMO will be both Davis at the 1 and sophomore James Jennings at the 2. These two guards on the floor at the same time will easily make for one of the fastest backcourts in the country, hands down.
My other predicted starters are Darius Watson who is the best player in the league by far, and Victor L. The last position will be up to either Marcus Walker who was another transfer from JUCO at Union City College or Lemar Larson, the Junior forward who as PJ has mentioned has improved every year.
I know my lineup has changed from previous posts but in light of the new recruits and information on them I think that was likely to happen anyways. Bringing Julian Sanders and also JUCO transfer Kyle Wiggins off the bench is a deadly combination of shooters who can flat out score the basketball.
This team is going to be outstanding once they mesh together and find there rhythm. I say it takes a solid 3 weeks to really figure it out but once they do it's off to the races.
Tre Gibbs is going to be a stud to. 6'7 dunks everything in sight. Again still a bit raw but a tremendous true freshman to have on the team. Almost forgot about him.
Seasons inching closer and closer. Go Falcons!!!
Junkie!
Awesome break down..
It sounds like they are deep as well. Last year team was not very deep and it should in the tournament game. They lost Jimmy Eco and Julian Saunders for that game and could not keep up with Alvernia. Here is a look at the line-up:
Davis, Jennings - Guards
Waston, Victor L - Forwards
Walker - Big Forward (C)
Off bench - Julian, Wiggins, Lersen, Gibbs - some of those guys could start on other GNAC teams..
Now, there were some other new recruits and the Wilson cousins.. Are they still on the team?
I think you will see an up tempo and very strong defending falcon team..
10 days away!!1 let's go..
Any word on Lehman and how they look?
PJ,
The depth of this team is tremendous and should not be an issue. Last year's depth was a concern from beginning to end. Whether it was freak injuries or players unfortunately either flunking off or leaving the team for other reasons it certainly didn't help their chances in the NCAA tournament. This year's team seems to have much more dedicated and high character incoming players that want to be there and understand how talented and good this team that they are part of can become.
I didn't forget about the Wilsons and I know Marc is still currently on the team and I am almost certain Rodney is still there as well. From what I heard in the past Rodney was an outstanding talent. He didn't play last year but I was told that he would have started and is a flat out scorer. So again this can attest to the depth that this team has. The scoring that can come off this bench is scary good. As for other incoming recruits will have to wait for the official roster to be posted before I can go into detail.
The scouting report on Lehman:
They are a tough typical New York City style team. Solid, quick and durable that rely greatly on their guard play. Also in the same conference as Medgar Evers who handed the Falcons an overtime loss two years ago and probably cost them from running the regular season table.
Should be an interesting matchup but overall I think the Falcons win on depth and talent. Plus we have our own New York style guard that we can lean on this year in Eian Davis!!!
I hope (and kind of expect) to play Mitchell the following night. Mitchell has made great strides over the last few seasons and I think they present a very nice early season test for the Falcons. They are both very familiar with each other and it should make for an exciting game.
I can't wait to see this team in action!!!
After thinking about the roster and knowing some information about the recruits, here is the run down, and with some info on some of the guys we haven't touched base on in previous posts.
1.Eian Davis
2.Victor L
3.Kyle Wiggins – Transferred from Dean College in MA, great shooter and an extremely hard worker, my only worry is defensively can he get the job done. Offensively he should come off the bench and score from the perimeter and be a really good contributor.
4.Tre Gibbs
5.Marcus Walker – This kid is a BEAST on the boards. A rebounding machine with good presence around the rim offensively and will be a very solid front court player who understands and knows his role. Great addition from Union College in NJ I believe.
6.Teiron Jackson – Guard who played for West Haven and I believe led the state in scoring 2 years ago. Pretty good size and can score the basketball. Only question will be can he find minutes because of how loaded the position is for the Falcons this year. If he works hard and stays on course his time will most definitely come.
7.Daylon Ore – Hartford guard who IMO is very similar to Teiron. Can score and isn't quite as big but again the depth in the backcourt is so deep. Another player who if he works hard and wants to put in the work should be a valuable player in the future.
I may be forgetting one because I think they have a total of 8 recruits??
Pair these guys up with Darius Watson, Lemar Larsen, Julian Sanders, James Jennings, The Law Firm of Wilson and Wilson and the rest of the squad. WOWWWWW!!
I heard Ore is no longer at Albertus.
Thanks JamieJohn,
I believe that is the case but I just wanted to include him in my rundown because I was not 100% sure if he had left or not. I didnt want to leave anyone off from the original recruitment list.
Anyone know of a reason why? The story on him was awesome, but perhaps he wasn't too keen on all the JUCO talent coming in?
Not sure why LilDave,
Will try to get more information on his decision. I would have to say that the JUCO talent and overall depth at the guard position perhaps greatly altered his decison. That story was pretty awesome.
If he can go somewhere else and can contribute right away, then good for him.
Darius gets some love and makes the Honorable Mention for the d3hoops preseason All-American list. Think it's safe to say if he played anywhere but the GNAC he'd be higher on the list. Good to see him on it at least though!
link: http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2014 (http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-americans/men/preseason-2014)
Finally some love. No question that if he was in another conference he would be up higher on the list. With that being said it still an awesome achievement.
I think we are going to start seeing more and more love for Albertus as the team continues to have success year in and year out. To think Ray Askew wasn't named a preseason All-American going into his senior year and then finished as a 2nd teamer. I think we can expect the same thing out of Darius this year.
Albertus traveled to #9 ranked WPI for a scrimmage this morning and handed the Engineers a loss. I know it was just a scrimmage but WPI has been one of the best and most consistent programs in the Northeast over the last few seasons and to have the opportunity to scrimmage such a great program and come away with a victory should only boost the confidence of this Falcons squad.
That's awesome D3HJ! Any specifics on how the game went, or just hear the score?
If anyone is interested, there are a bunch of ASA College games on youtube from the last season (Where Davis and Ljuljdjuraj played). I know in the one I've watched so far, Ljuljdjuraj is listed as #45 in the description but he's #40 in game.
EDIT: Watched a second game and he was #45
My prediction Norwich 13-14 season.
Starting five
PG Nickolai Havoutis Sr Experience,Steady PG
SG Tom McDonald Sr Best 3pts shooter,I exepect he over 15 pts Avg.
G/F Alex Preckol So Great team defender ,good feel for game.
F Evan Tullar Jr Long,Athletic Foward.Could be breakout this yaer. Potentially he make all conference team(2nd team ) after end of the season.
F Jay Vinci So Actually,he didn't play last season.But he could be contribute to team(Defensively,Rebound) right way.
First came off the Bench
SG Jimmy Warden So Hard nosed player.
F Grant Brown Fr he bring depth on frontcourt rotation.
G/F Gary Gladden So He can play multiple position.
Lost 3 contributers(2 starters ,a backup PF) But Returning 3 starters and 3 key role players from last seson squad.
add to some impact incomingclass.(Vinci,Brown etc.. ) but I think rebuild yaer for this year Cadets.
We Don't have Talented/Big man like Former NU F/C Antonio Davis 11' so ,Cadets would be struggle around basket on offense/defense.
Athletics department hired new Assistant coach from Boston Metropolitan area who served coaching solid AAU program there.
Wonder if Albertus will post a roster before Christmas! ??? ???
And no surprise here - Albertus picked to finish first in the GNAC Preseason Poll:
http://thegnac.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/releases/20131113odwg77 (http://thegnac.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/releases/20131113odwg77)
I think we are all waiting for a roster LilDave. I would say a more accurate date would be New Years at this rate.
I always got a kick out of coaches holding out because they don't want other teams knowing who they have or what size they have. WHO CARES!!! Especially at this level, all these players talk on social media and everything else. If someone wanted to really find out who a team has, they could.
Just saw the pre-season coach's poll and not surprised at all by the results. Just to throw my opinion out there, if I were voting I would have Johnson and Whales ahead of St Joes. I understand the returners and leadership coming back for St Joes is huge but if you look at the two teams I think that JWU is much more athletic and returns IMO one of the best young players in the GNAC with Quarry Greenway.
24 Hours till Tip-Off.....Gonna be a great season in GNAC and D3Hoops
JWU also has Franklin Pierce transfer Matt Barboza.
ROSTER IS OUT! ITS LIKE CHRISTMAS!!!
See that Ryan Spears from Wilby is on the squad. Not sure how much PT he'll see but he is a hard worker who's on ball defense is awesome. Very smart with the ball, doesn't make too many mistakes. Much more of a pure point than the hybrids who can score that AMC is used to. I could see him playing a Jimmy Eco like role (minus the jumper), especially defensively if he stays and grows as a player.
I love the talent of this year squad between the JUCO transfers and incoming freshman. Along with what we had already returning, this team is going to be an absolute force. I think when it is all said and done we are going to look back at the end of this season and say this was the best team that Albertus has ever had.
As long as they listen to Coach Oliver and play as a team and listen to each other out on the court, this is going to be a fun year.
5:30 game time, I will put my postgame thoughts up tonight once I return home. Go Falcons!!
and of course there's a NHRegister article talking about how this might be a rebuilding year!
http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20131114/albertus-magnus-may-be-in-rebuilding-mode (http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20131114/albertus-magnus-may-be-in-rebuilding-mode)
A cheap plug if you will -
The Worcester Area College Basketball (coaches) Association revived its awards program last year and, for the second consecutive year, is complimented with a Twitter account - @WACBAHoops https://twitter.com/wacbahoops (https://twitter.com/wacbahoops)
The feed features daily news, scores, recaps and more for all nine NCAA men's and women's basketball programs in Worcester County: Anna Maria, Assumption (DII), Becker, Clark, Fitchburg State, Holy Cross (DI), Nichols, WPI and Worcester State.
Matt Noonan (@NoontimeSports), as heard on Hoopsville, selects the weekly men's and women's players of the week and an honor roll for each gender. Along with the weekly release there will be standings and statistical leaders for points, rebounds and assists. Both will are slated to be released on Monday afternoons.
The registers coverage of this team over the past 5 years has been a joke. They deserve so much more credit then what they get from the media. I realize they are a small D3 team but this is the NewHaven Register and they should cover Albertus more being there from NewHaven and have become one of the most consistent teams in D3 basketball.
I love how Oliver plays it off like its a rebuilding year to. The guy never stops coaching LOL. He knows what he has an how good they will be. Maybe the register will cover them more once they realize they were wrong
OK Falcon and GNAC fans, I just returned home from tonight's game. The Falcons were victorious 86 to 73.
I was very impressed with what I saw offensively. Eian Davis will without doubt lead the league and be one of the tops in the country in assists. After one game I have no doubt that he is the purest point guard that Albertus has ever had. This kid just loves sharing the basketball. I also need to make note of his speed. He is literally one of the fastest players I have ever seen with a ball in his hand, AT ANY LEVEL and I truly stand by this. He finished with 9 assist and 10 points.
Victor L is a tremendous talent as well. Has a great finish around the rim and can definitely hit the mid-range jumper. Also had 11 rebounds to go along with 13 points. Should be a double double machine in conference play. He is also a legit 6-8 which is nice to see since we all know how generous coaches and SID's are with listing height and weight.
Darius Watson did his thing as usual scoring a game high 31 points and knocking in what I thought was 4 consecutive 3's in the first half. I like for him to help out a bit more on the weak side with rebounding instead of watching at times but I just can't really knock him after pouring in 31 and still grabbing 7 boards.
Julian Sanders I thought played pretty decent. Didn't shoot the ball from deep to well which I was surprised by but he slashed and took the ball to the rim whenever he wanted and got to the free throw line and for the most part converted those FT's. Finished with 11 points
Now on to my grinder of the game...... Lemar Larsen. I thought his effort was superb, really battled on the boards and definitely put on some much needed weight and muscle in the off season. I thought his initial defensive matchup was going to be a problem because he came out on a much smaller forward who looked to have much more speed then Lemar but it didn't turn into a real factor. He had some nice finishes around the rim but my one pick on is that he needs to make his FT's more consistently. Other than that from my standpoint he played one hell of a game. 11 points
That was the starting 5 and notice how they all scored in double digits.
Onto the role guys (quickly)
Marc Wilson provided great minutes and made some nice baskets in the second half when the lead became very close. Marcus Walker looked pretty solid, made a couple of bad decisions with shots but hes a big strong kid and I think he'll progress as the season goes on. Kyle Wiggins is going to be the guy for this team that comes off the bench and launches from wherever he is on the court and I like guys like that. He may seem a bit lost out there right now and most spectators are probably wondering why he would pull the trigger on some of his shots but I think that's a confident player and even though he was off tonight from deep I really like his stroke and willingness to shoot the ball. He nailed a dagger three at the buzzer to end the first half as well.
Trevon Gibbs got a few minutes and as we all expected he is extremely raw. What I LOVED however was when Coach Oliver signaled to him to enter the game I don't think I have ever seen a single player get to the scoring table so fast and that really impressed me. You can just tell by looking at the kid hes a workaholic and will be a really good player in years to come. Troy Owens and Allen Brown also got into the game.
Before I end this I would also like to give credit to Lehman as well. This was a quality team with some really good talented players. At one point it looked like Albertus was going to blow the game open but they fought right back and played very well. This was a great first game for Albertus to play because Lehman for the most part was as athletic.
The Albertus defense for me was an issue (even with 20 TO's) for me but I've gone on long enough tonight and want to get to bed. After tomorrow's game with Mitchell maybe I'll touch base on that.
Good first win, Lets keep it going
Great assesment! i was at the game tonight and agree with basically everything posted above me. Here are my thoughts after watching tonight.
Eian Davis- OMG, i have never been more excited to watch a kid at albertus like i do this kid. he literally is the fastest kid I've seen with the ball. He could score 45 if he wanted too, but just wants to dish dish dish. he took not one bad shot tonight. i have no problem calling this kid the best pg in the conference even without seeing other pgs in the conference yet, bc no one last yr that i saw is on this kids level. i haven't seen a pg this good since jeremy shannon. and this kid might be better, yes that good! The best part about him is that he is so vocal, is the leader on this team, no doubt in my mind. had a smile on his face the whole night. he gave watson so many open 3's, just wow with this kid. what a land by oliver.
Victor- looked like a man amongst boys in the first half, then got a little lazy in the second half, for which he was pulled for a good portion of the second half. reminds me of Guiton(i think that was his name) from lasell a few yrs back. the kid from miami. except this kid can hit threes. Gnac has its hands full with this kid.
Watson- may have seen more open 3's tonight then he did all of last yr lol. davis just makes him that much better.
Larsen- took some shots i think he shoulda of dished off, but the kid is a workhorse
Jennings- didn't play, imagine him and davis together? they might get ticketed for speeding
Wiggins- def seems like a confident three point shooter, excited to see how he develops
Sanders- Solid as usual, missed some threes, but the perfect role player
Lehman was tough, especially that lefty that couldn't miss. Mitchell blows out albany pharmacy, tough road game for albertus tomorrow. They most certainly should win by 10-20 but mitchell at home will be tough. Not as much size as lehman, so i think their style fits right in for albertus to look great. they better play better D though. all in all great first game. just hope everyone stays healthy and eligible!!!
Quote from: lildave678 on November 15, 2013, 03:17:23 PM
and of course there's a NHRegister article talking about how this might be a rebuilding year!
http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20131114/albertus-magnus-may-be-in-rebuilding-mode (http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20131114/albertus-magnus-may-be-in-rebuilding-mode)
I LOVE how the article states they lost to Anna Maria in the GNAC finals, than then next sentence says advanced to the NCAA tournament.
Now they probably would have gotten in with a loss, but I can guarantee (and I hate making guarantee's too, so it must be right) that Anna Maria DOES NOT LOSE to Eastern in the ECAC semifinals if they beat Albertus in the GNAC finals....mainly because they would have bypassed the ECAC.
Falcons win again an capture the Mitchell College Tip Off Championship with 99-89 victory over host Mitchell. Good fast paced game which truly showed the athleticism of this Albertus team. Mitchell is much improve and a very talented team but the Falcons were just to much for them to overcome. Darius Watson named tournament MVP after back-to-back great games. Even though he didn't shoot the ball too well today he still finished with 21 points and managed to turn in a great game. Eian Davis joined Darius on the all tournament team and finished today's game with 27 points and 11 assists.
Quote from: 7express on November 16, 2013, 12:10:20 AM
Quote from: lildave678 on November 15, 2013, 03:17:23 PM
and of course there's a NHRegister article talking about how this might be a rebuilding year!
http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20131114/albertus-magnus-may-be-in-rebuilding-mode (http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20131114/albertus-magnus-may-be-in-rebuilding-mode)
I LOVE how the article states they lost to Anna Maria in the GNAC finals, than then next sentence says advanced to the NCAA tournament.
Now they probably would have gotten in with a loss, but I can guarantee (and I hate making guarantee's too, so it must be right) that Anna Maria DOES NOT LOSE to Eastern in the ECAC semifinals if they beat Albertus in the GNAC finals....mainly because they would have bypassed the ECAC.
7, New Haven journalism at its best.... I disagree with you in one area... Albertus with 3 losses in the GNAC last year, doesn't get a bid. They were ranked 11 in the last regional polls. How is western looking?
Great breakdown by you guys... I felt like I was there.
This Davis kid sounds like the real deal... I heard that he is great floor general. Albertus has been missing that the last few years. Add Davis with Victor L and Watson and wow that is a lot of talent on the floor. You have a big man, a great ball handler, and a great scorer....
Now add all of the role players: Saunders, Jennings, Lersen, Wiggins, and Wilson. This team could be the best that Oliver has had. They need to clean up their mistake, work harder on the defensive end, and learn to play with each other. Would love to see how this team is playing in January.
Can't wait to hear more from you guys.
PJ,
You really can't put into words how quick and electric Davis is with the basketball. Really need to see it to believe it, he is that damn good. And he really is a floor general out on the court. He can distribute the ball like no player I have seen at this level and he can also turn on the switch when it is time to go end to end and score. He is like a blur out there. I almost think he loves passing more than scoring when you watch him play LOL. He threw an alley oop to Darius (which was the second time they pulled it off in the game) and after Darius caught it and threw it down Davis fell to the ground in excitement and shock, he could not stop smiling. He really is a leader and enjoys getting everyone involved and the team already feeds off of him as he runs wild and controls the show.
The depth and scoring that can come off this bench is tremendous and Victor L as I've already stated is a monster with an incredible touch.
The defense right now is suspect, even though they are forcing turnovers in both games Albertus gave up quite a high number of open jumpers and the loose balls (especially today) didn't seem to go there way because to me it seemed like they were leaking out a little earlier then they maybe should have trying to get out on the fast break before really securing the basketball. Just an observation and I definitely think this will improve once the coaching staff goes back and studies the game film.
I could go on and on about other players and their performance but will save that for another time. And by January this team will no doubt be clicking on all cylinders as they have already surprised me with how well they play together.
Go Falcons and good luck to all GNAC teams in non-conference play
I just want to say one more thing. I have all the respect in the world for Mitchell and how they have progressed over the years. Josh Ford is an outstanding player and Alex Del Rio is a very underappreciated guard but the Mitchell fans, and I don't want to say all of them because it wasn't but the majority was a disgrace. So much so that if I were Coach Oliver I wouldn't even play in the tournament next year. Booing the awards ceremony in a Tip Off tournament is just ridiculous.
Quote from: pjunito on November 16, 2013, 10:18:04 PM
7, New Haven journalism at its best.... I disagree with you in one area... Albertus with 3 losses in the GNAC last year, doesn't get a bid. They were ranked 11 in the last regional polls. How is western looking?
They would've been close. Would've come down to what other teams from other regions were on the board comparable to them. But I'm with you, I think they would've been left out, luckily they got the auto bid and didn't have to worry about any what if's.
Western's 1-1 losing to Bowdoin 80-55 Friday and beating Fitchburg 95-82 yestersay, but since I coach now and have night classes on most of the night's they play I don't think I'll be watching many games in person this year, so can't tell you in person how they looked since I wasn't actually up there in MA this weekend.
Cadets participated Ramada Roundball Invitational @University of New England and
advanced Championship game but loss to Daniel Webster 62-57.
Evan Tullar and Tom McDonald named All tournament Team.
Not bad season start (1-1) ,Team seems get better each day and appearing unexpected contributor on the frontcourt players.
Next game on Wednesday Nov 20 @Johnson state 7PM
After watching some of those ASA games on youtube, I was definitely excited about Davis and Victor L but the analysis has me absolutely stoked! Too bad their first home game isn't until December 7th!
Quote from: officer cadet on November 18, 2013, 02:20:49 AM
Cadets participated Ramada Roundball Invitational @University of New England and
advanced Championship game but loss to Daniel Webster 62-57.
Evan Tullar and Tom McDonald named All tournament Team.
Not bad season start (1-1) ,Team seems get better each day and appearing unexpected contributor on the frontcourt players.
Next game on Wednesday Nov 20 @Johnson state 7PM
Welcome to the boards Cadet... We have to stick together until conference play... There hasn't been a lot of support for the other GNAC schools on this board in years. Keep us posted on the happenings in Vermont. We will do the same with Albertus.
Junkie,
You're the man bro! Thanks for your recap and insights. I felt like I was in the crowd; but I wasn't. I can't wait to discuss this team throughout the year. I really believe that this is Mitch's best team. He has always had one very solid player - Askew for three years, Watson for three years, and a good set of role players - Waldens, reeves, Jackson, jimmy eco, etc... He did have Askew and Watson together for one year; and that team was dominate for most of the year. But, Watson was a freshmen and had off games at times. They were killed by Middlebury when Watson sat on the bench.
This team adds two veterans at key positions along with a determined Watson. Adding a point guard like Davis immediately makes you a contender for the conference. But adding Victor L along with him makes an impact on the region. I will expand on this later as I have to take my son to basketball practice...
Yeooo....
PS. lil dave, Albertus must have thought they were the rangers playing on the road while MSG was under renovation.. Unfortunately for us... the nest is still the same ol nest.
Thanks PJ,
I enjoy doing the updates!!! Im going to do a little preveiw for tonights game against Newbury in a little while.
To recap some scores from last night, unfortanatley it wasnt a good one for the GNAC.
Mount Ida lost to former GNAC member Emerson 85 to 56. Norwich lost there contest with Johnson State 86 to 72.
Norwich lost to NAC's Johnson state 86-72 last night so,NU falls to 1-2 overall.
Cadets had to knock off them but Norwich Defense was totaled by Johnson's center Bryan Hickey(20pts)
and SG Asim Khan(23pts).
while ,Cadets Tom McDonald tallied 20pts,
Evan Tullar scored 16pts,
also,Nickolai Havoutis turned in 13pts.
Sorry guys, I didn't get around to doing a pregame. Too much going on at work and didn't have the time. I Didn't travel to the game tonight but was able to catch it online. The Newbury video feed I thought was actually very good.
Not going to give a big rundown, just a couple quick points.
Albertus came hot out of the gates and you almost knew right from the beginning that they were simply too good for Newbury to matchup with. Newbury was a slower team defensively and came out in a zone defense which obviously didn't work for them because Albertus and specifically Darius Watson were able to knock down 3 pointers with ease. He was really feeling it tonight. Finished with 26 points on 10 of 15 shooting. I think the Newbury coach new that if they had switched to a man to man it would have been even worse because they simply couldn't match the speed and athleticism of Albertus.
Grinder of the game goes to Marc Wilson. Had 16 points and a monster first half to really set the tone. I wanted to mention him because he is a hard worker who plays the game right. I also think it is appropriate because I believe we will be seeing much more of Marc because from what I can gather, unfortunately Julian Sanders season has come to an end. Apparently he has a torn ACL (sustained in the Mitchell game) and will not be able to return for his senior season. I feel for this kid, he has been a tremendous asset to the team for his entire career and his production and ability to shoot the 3 and also slash to the rim will be missed.
Bright spot of the game for me is Allen Brown who came off the bench and from what I could make out on video played very well. It's so much different when you are there to see it live but from what I saw he looked pretty good and just gives Coach Oliver another weapon to come off the bench. This team could really shoot the ball and with Eian Davis breaking down zone defenses and dishing (had another 9 assist tonight) I really cant see an easy way for a team to matchup with us. Against a zone we make shots and against man to man we run and gun.
Defense looked much improved tonight too; Newbury didn't have any easy shots. Almost all were contested and we also won the rebounding battle.
Also, big hats off to Lasell College who beat #23 Rhode Island College tonight in overtime 98-94. Love to see other GNAC teams winning great games and a win against a ranked opponent no matter what is always a quality win.
So much for short a short post, Go Falcons and Good luck to all GNAC teams as your seasons progress.
Great rundown junkie! I couldn't get the video feed on my Mac, but nice win for albertus on the road. What awful news about Sanders. I feel for him. Hope he has a speedy recovery.
Is there any news on Jennings? His injury or how long he's out? Tough road matchup against NJC next game for albertus, they have their hands full, especially with Khalil Muhammad.
I think Jennings will be back this week at full strength and will be just fine for the NJC game. He sustained a high ankle sprain in practice prior to the start of the season. Honestly, he probably could have played in the Newbury game if needed and called upon but as we saw by the outcome he wasn't.
Julian Sanders injury is sad but the depth on this team is outstanding and I don't think they will miss him that much when it comes to point's contribution. Kyle Wiggins will see increased minutes along with Allen Brown and when Jennings gets back, he will slide right into Sanders role providing just as much if not more offensive firepower. Defensively they will be fine as well; Julian was by no means a lock down defender. What he did provide however was a "long" guard meaning he could alter outside shots with his size and length. Julians athleticism was never really appreciated in my opinion. I still to this day think he was one of the best at slashing to the rim and turning his body in such a way to really draw contact without getting called for offensive fouls. His explosiveness was unmatchable and unfortunately it was a play like this that ultimately gave him the injury.
NJC does make for an interesting matchup. No doubt Khalil Muhammad is there go to player, however if you look at their current schedule, they are 4-0 against teams who on the season have a combined 3-8 record. So as we can see they have yet to face a real tough team. Now you can say the same thing about the Albertus schedule so far as well but I still think Albertus has faced stiffer competition. We will know MUCH MUCH more about NJC after their game tomorrow with Rutgers-Newark which is being video broadcasted. I know I'll be watching and will give my prediction on the Albertus NJC game after that game has completed.
I also wanted to propose this question to the GNAC board because I don't really know the answer and was hoping to get some clarification.
With the injury that Julian sustained resulting in the end of his senior season, is it possible for him to come back and have the NCAA grant him another year of eligibility. I know the season has already started but with only two games played I thought there was a circumstance that if only X amount of games are played he can be granted another year. This is also assuming he would want to even come back and play another year but let's just say for arguments sake he does.
I am sure Coach Oliver and even Albertus new athletic director Jim Abromaetis is all over this issue. Jim's son Tim played for Notre Dame and if anyone here followed the then Big East, it seemed like Tim played for about 8 years at ND. The poor kid went through so much injury wise at ND and was granted extended eligibility from the NCAA.
Is it the same for D3? Is there a silver lining? I just hate to see a kid's college career end this way.
I'm not sure how it works because he participated in 2 games. I played soccer for AMC and the summer before my senior year I tore a bunch of ligaments in my ankle and didn't play. Because I had a knee injury that cost me my senior year in high school, I told myself I wasn't missing another senior season. As long as I had credits remaining (you obviously still need to be a student), I was granted the extra year. So I purposely came up 3 credits short in the spring, saved the one class for the fall and had a 5th year. But as said, I didn't play at all that first senior season.
And I know it seems weird that I could play only taking one class (normally thats considered part-time) but the coach explained it to me that if it was towards graduation you were eligible. I didn't completely understand lol but I'm assuming what he meant by that is they were the last 3 credits I needed to graduate...I wasn't like a sophomore who just decided for the heck of it to only take one class for a semester.
Unless the rule has changed, Sanders can come back and play next yr. I injured myself prior to my senior yr at albertus, a week before our season started (not bball), but chose to play the last 8-10 games of the yr rather then medically redshirt. Now this was 2007, not sure it has changed since. Also a friend of mine whom I played with broke a foot one week in to his senior yr a few yrs after myself and was allowed to come back the following yr. I guess it all depends on sanders and how many credits he has left. If he's on pace to graduate in the spring he would have to be enrolled in graduate classes to come back. But of course if he's not on pace to walk, I'm pretty sure he will be eligible to play as usual. Again I'm not positive but pretty sure he can. I hope for his sake he is able to come back next yr if he chooses to do so.
Yes I agree, NJC is a question mark at this point based on their competition. I think it's a great game for us to see just how good albertus is as well up until this point
Lil dave, I'm pretty sure I remember being told it's anywhere from 8-13 games played as far as when your not eligible to come back the following yr. I'm almost positive Sanders can come back
Scratch that it's a percentage of your games since every sport has different schedules, I believe. And I remember being told my number was 9 games I believed. With the injury coming so early in they te sanders see has not surpassed it
Thanks for the info guys. Hopefully we get some more chatter on the topic. I also think Julian is probably on pace to graduate this year. I remember reading an article about him an a couple other Albertus players from various sports making the All-Academic team or something of that nature for the GNAC conference. Maybe he should slow down a little and take some time off LOL.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on November 25, 2013, 09:24:24 AM
I also wanted to propose this question to the GNAC board because I don't really know the answer and was hoping to get some clarification.
With the injury that Julian sustained resulting in the end of his senior season, is it possible for him to come back and have the NCAA grant him another year of eligibility. I know the season has already started but with only two games played I thought there was a circumstance that if only X amount of games are played he can be granted another year. This is also assuming he would want to even come back and play another year but let's just say for arguments sake he does.
I am sure Coach Oliver and even Albertus new athletic director Jim Abromaetis is all over this issue. Jim's son Tim played for Notre Dame and if anyone here followed the then Big East, it seemed like Tim played for about 8 years at ND. The poor kid went through so much injury wise at ND and was granted extended eligibility from the NCAA.
Is it the same for D3? Is there a silver lining? I just hate to see a kid's college career end this way.
I will tell to you positive example Former Norwich player Josh Cabrera'13
Cabrera got injured(knee) When he played 7 games in his Sophomore season.
he sat out bench all remain games, finally he granted extra a year play eligible .
I believe Julian get another year play eligible as long as he stay school.
Well that was an absolute track meet. NJC and Rutgers Newark just played one of the most up and down games I have honestly ever seen. (On Video) To be totally honest I was not terrible impressed with either team. I actually thought Rutgers Newark had the better overall team but NJC did a very good job of never letting them get into a rhythm.
Here is my take on NJC: They don't shoot the ball too well. Especially last night they really struggled with knocking down shots as evident by the score 61-52 and shooting percentages, 19 of 48 from the floor for 39.6%, 3 of 10 from deep and 20 of 29 from the line. They like to run run run and when they got into their offensive sets they didn't really run their offense to well. They seem to be athletic but there "bigs" are pretty slow and they were in foul trouble the whole night.
There guard Roberson is very quick with the ball and this will be the first real test for Eian Davis. Davis is definitely faster and a more polished player but NJC is pretty long defensively and should be better at defending some of the outstanding assists that Davis has been able to hand out this year.
I really don't think there is a player on NJC that can matchup with Darius either. He is too big and strong for their guards and their frontcourt is far too slow. I'd like to see him makes some more moves to this basket in this game instead of settling for threes. I really think he can have his way if he can dribble penetrate to the middle of the floor.
By no means will this be an easy matchup but if Albertus plays together and listen to Coach Oliver and runs their offense I think Albertus wins this game. They are just a far better shooting team and if NJC want to get into a track meet, then that will only further play into Albertus hands.
I also think we might see a press this game and that does worry me a little but I think after the first few minutes of it, we should settle in and handle pretty nicely.
I believe GNAC is right with the rules to a medical red-shirt; however, it still has to be granted by the NCAA... So, Julian could meet all the requirements and still be declined. It shouldn't happen, however, it could. Julian could also play as a Grad student which will allow him to walk in May, if he so chooses. I think losing him really hurts, but allows Wilson, Wiggins, and Walker an opportunity to step up. If Wiggins or Walker can be consistent shooting the ball, then they can replace Julian's production. I think we lose a lot on the defensive end; haven't seen the new guys play in person yet. But, Julian was a strong defender, he had great feet and was able to take away passing lanes. He also allowed Darius to play a weaker offensive player, not forcing Darius to work to hard on the defensive end.
I really enjoy watching Albertus play strong competition early in the season. I believe it allows the coaching staff the opportunity to work on things during the semester break. Win or lose, I am really excited to play NJC this week. Great analysis by Junkie! You have me pumped!!! I am going to eat turkey for 4 days, then watch the falcons on Monday!!! WOOOOOO baby!
I am thankful for D3 boards and good falcon fans like you guys.... Happy Thanksgiving boys, see ya at the nest!
An impressive and solid win for the Falcons this afternoon in NJ. I couldn't attend the game because I had to much going on at home and didn't even get a chance to watch the webcast so I cant give my usual breakdown but just going off the stats it appears my preview of NJCU was correct. They are not a great shooting team. Today they shot 33.8% from the floor 8.3% from 3 (WOOF) and 52.9% from the line. Albertus knocked down 3's all day and Darius really stepped up. Eian Davis shooting stats were not good at all but he managed to dish out another 8 assists. In the end Albertus won the game because of there ability to knockdown shots. Good win, on to the next one!!
If anyone was there or watched the webcast another perspective on the game would be appreciated.
I caught a glimpse of the game midway through the first when AMC was up 6-ish and NJC made the run to take the lead. Can't really give you much detail but the little bit I saw it was certainly a track meet: rebound, find the outlet and go. While Davis didn't shoot well for the game, it was nice to finally "see" him and he's as quick as you guys have been saying. Vic looked good in the little I saw and should be a forced in the usually undersized GNAC.
If you want a better look into the game, check out the recap on NJC's athletics page. Very in-depth, even includes words from their coach.
Thanks LilDave,
Gonna head over to the NJC website now. I always like hearing what opposing coaches have to say about there opponent.
He doesn't really say much about us, other than no one's ever shot like that against them. You can still watch the game it seems through the Albertus schedule - click on live video and then pick the top video (as of writing this). It's titled NJC Athletics or something like that, not specifically labeled with Albertus or anything.
First big test of the season for the falcons and they played solid. When you have a lot of new players it takes 8-10 games to really get into a groove. May take a little longer since Julian is now out for the year and Jennings still isn't 100%. But, with that being said, I am very impressed with this team. I think this might be the most talented team that Oliver has coached at Albertus. The 2011 team was pretty darn good and they had an amazing competitor in Askew. But, this team has everything you want in a college basketball team. A pg who creates open looks for his teammates, a senior stud who can score at will, three guys who can stretch the defense with the outside jumper, and a big man who is athletic, can clean up mistakes with block shots and rebounds.
I don't know how good NJC actually was.. but they were getting votes for top 25 and Albertus just beat them by double digits at their place with an incomplete team and the oil just warming up. Things look very promising.. You hope guys don't take nights off... because this could be a fun season.
Here is my take from the first 4 games (conference games begin this week):
1. Davis is the key to the engine; he is smart and quick. He isn't a great shooter, but can create for his teammates.
2. Watson is a complete player.. he needs to trust his teammates and not force shots and he will avg close to 30 again
3. Victor L, if he is committed to cleaning the glass, protecting his rim, and getting 8-12 pts a game, watch out!
4. Supporting players:
a. Jennings, can become more selective with his shot, if so, percentage will increase.. also good ball handler
b. Larsen, can concentrate on taking 4-5 shots a game and make 3-4 of them and cleaning the glass
c. Wiggins, Wilson, and Walker - will have plenty of opportunities to score.. Stay confident and take good shots.
Three things I thought Albertus was missing last year -
1. Rebounding.. I think we weak around the glass, seemed like we were outrebounded every game
2. strong guard play - Jackson played excellent at times last year, but we had no depth and Jennings looked like a freshmen at times.
3. We couldn't extend the defense by hitting the outside shot. - this forced Watson to do too much, we had Julian and jimmy eco, but there were times that they didn't shoot. Really hurt against good competition.
I think we improved in all those areas this year.
Thoughts?
Just watched the game against NJCU, here is the link for anyone who would like to watch it
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/41285990
Great road win for albertus, this win may go a long way in their regional ranking if NJCU continues to play well all yr. Sloppy game for the most part. Lots of dumb turnovers by albertus, but some that won't happen lot of the time, like the double dribble by Davis with no one around him. IF you look at Davis box score the 2-14 jumps out at you, but watching the film he got Darius and others some wide open looks bc the D has to collapse on his dribble penetration. He is just lightning quick, it is great. Albertus could have won this game by 30, they looked that much better then NJCU. Both teams shot awful at the charity stripe. Larsen went down in the second half, hope it was minor. He's the workhorse. The impressive part is this game was won with no Jennings, who is going to be an integral part of this team. I was most impressed with Albertus D this game. Great perimeter D followed by great interior D, hope thats a sign of things to come.
Great point's guys. I agree with everything said.
Albertus starts conference play tonight as they travel to Mount Ida. I won't be at the game but according to the schedule it will be video broadcasted which is nice for those of us who can't make it up to see the game.
Not much to preview on, I don't want to sound over confident or anything but Albertus wins this one with ease. Mount Ida simply doesn't have the horses and they have also lost 4 straight. I wish them luck, but they're going to need it........Okay, maybe I am a little over confident
As a side note Albertus received 8 votes today in this week's Top 25. As conference play continues I think they'll continue to receive votes and as long as they win should crack the Top 25 in a couple weeks. SUNY Purchase, who Albertus plays later on in the season, broke into the Top 25 this week and I can't wait to watch this game. Thankfully it will be at the NEST!!! There starting center is 7'2. Should be a great contest later in the year.
Any reason why the Suffolk/AMC game on Saturday isn't listed as a conference game?? The game @ Suffolk in January is listed as a GNAC. I assume just a misprint for whoever imputed the schedule??
7, I am sure it is only a misprint.
Nice win for the Falcons last night. They built up a big half time lead and dominated the game in all areas. I thought they got a little lazy and careless in the 2nd half but there was really no threat or push by Mount Ida so it was a little easier to watch. I hate when they get lazy and turn the ball over but I also realize that it is hard to really stay 100% focused when your blowing a team out.
I can't say enough about the play of Lemar Larsen. This kid has been great from the beginning of the season and if he continues to give this kind of effort night in and night out I really think this could be a special special year for Albertus. He has finally reached his potential, I think we all saw what he can do over the last couple of season but this year his confidence seems like it's through the roof and he really is a great player. He's developed a nice jumper and fade away and continues to impress with the way he can finish around the rim by turning his body and hanging in the air and is also a big time rebounder. This team has so many weapons but so far for me he has been the MVP. For any UConn fans out there he reminds me of Gavin Edwards from a few years back. Underperformed his first couple seasons, confidence down, Coach Calhoun always rode him and then finally his Junior year he really figured it out. Very similar with Lemar and even Oliver. Coach Oliver always pushed Lemar because he knew what kind of player he could become. I think all the hard work and effort by both of them has finally paid off.
Yes nice win junkie, think we all expected it as you said. Jennings still not playing many mins, but I gotta believe that's injury related, correct???
Edwards is a great comparison. Larsen has always reminded me of Kevin Freeman. Just a bruiser/work horse. Not the flashiest types, just gets it done and cleans up the boards. And you can bet he won't back down against the 7'2 center from purchase. Let's hope everyone is back for the second semester bc this could be a very special yr.
And I just wanna make a quick point, when I was at albertus in 04 the bball team had 7 guys, yes 7 and had even less wins. What Mitch has done with this program is absolutely remarkable, remarkable. I cannot emphasize this enough. I was always at those games bc my boy tommy Russell would light it up in a 30 point defeat, but to think we went from those teams to this is amazing. And the win that started it all was at home against a good trinity team askew fresh yr at the nest. It's been all uphill since and I have gotten spoiled, but what a complete turnaround Mitch has accomplished
Stupid iPhone, Timmy* Russell
GNACFan, You are absolutely right. What Coach Oliver has done in such little time is truly amazing. I really think that if we took a look around and did some research, the turnaround that this team has made under his leadership and guidance might in fact be almost historic. For the size of this school and with no disrespect the location, its really amazing that he is able to land the quality players that he has. What is even more impressive is that he is able to get them to stay and buy into his system. They listen to him and trust him. I think everyone understands that with him at the helm they can beat any opponent they come across.
Now onto tonight's game. As expected we got the victory over Emmanuel 91 to 71. I'm not going to get into individual stats to much. Just to point out a few, Eian Davis has a much better game 22 points to lead all scorers with 13 ASSISTS, WOWWWW. Darius Watson had 21 points and Victor L had a very impressive game with 20 points and 8 boards. Vic looked unguardable out there, just far to big and his footwork on the low post is really impressive. He is a great finisher around the rim to.
Grinder of the night is Marcus Walker who came off the bench to get 6 points and grab an outstanding 12 rebounds in 26 minutes of work.
To glaring issues for me in tonight's game was #1 the turnovers. Albertus committed 22 with quite a few of them coming on lazy passes or just being carless with the ball. The other which for me is an even bigger issue was the offensive rebounds that Emmanuel was able to get. Emmanuel had 19 offensive rebounds. This can not happen against a quality opponent. No disrespect to Emmanuel but they really didn't capitalize of those second and third chances. Against stiffer competition is the season progresses this might be an issue for the Falcons. I hope it gets corrected because this can really alter the outcome of a close game.
Good win, on to the next one. Home opener this Saturday at the Nest (Finally!!!) 3:00 game against GNAC opponent Suffolk.
Junkie, what Mitch has done is a Disney movie. Struggling program, bads news bears type team, completely turned around by new coach. And B Reaves buzzer beater at William Patterson would be the ending lol
Nice win tonight, caught the broadcast. You took the words right from me junkie, these turnovers are way too high and the offensive boards needs to be corrected too. Now you take the good with the bad, and I think Davis game just being so fast translates in to turnovers. But 22 is too high to expect to have a special season we all are envisioning.
Vic looks like a man amongst boys. Watson was Watson last night. Davis great as well. And man Wiggins can flat out shoot, he'll step back from 27 and hit it. Beating Emmanuel is always a little sweeter for me, since there was a game in Oliver's first yr or second yr at amc against Emmanuel, and Emmanuel had a comfy 25 point lead or so, and to me and a bunch of others it seemed as if Emmanuel was running the score up at the end of the game. I won't get into details but let's just say Emmanuel hasn't beaten albertus since. First home game sat, unfortunately I'll be in Brooklyn. Only one of the semester, kinda sucks but will make albertus better.
Side note, not sure if the emannuel play by play guy is going to see this thread but I just wanna say he did a hell of a job. Sometimes in these play by plays on these streams the play by play guys awkward, and rightfully so with limited experience I'm sure. But this kid/guy last night I thought was absolutely great, so kudos to him
GNACFan, Nice shout out to the Emmanuel announcer from last nights game. I thought he was exceptionally good as well.
I love beating Emmanuel. I remember that game you mentioned and like you said since then we haven't lost to them.
I meant to ask you this yesterday in my post GNACFan, How good was Timmy Russel?? I never got to see him play and I've heard nothing but good things about his game. It was just unfortunate that he was on such awful teams. Would he be a starter on say this team? Just curious cause I really don't know anything about him other than he was a scorer?
Yes that Emmanuel game I remember like it was yday lol. Coach Jackson from Emmanuel was wearing a pink shirt and I had to tell my student section that was in charge of heckling to lay off of him. 10 mins later Jackson stopped the game to have the ref toss me, bc I didn't take to him running the score up lol. Guess I have gotten the last laugh thanks to Mitch lol
Timmy was great! He had no talent around him what so ever, but he could flat out shoot it. Just a pure scorer. Led the nation in scoring for all three divisions his sr yr. he absolutely would start on this team at SG. Thing is Timmy would have to buy into Mitch's system or he would find himself on the bench real quick lol he scored at will, hand in his face he'd still hit the jumper, double team, no problem he'd find a way to score. Now having seen him and Watson both play, and this is me taking my friendship with Timmy out of the equation, Watson is better overall player. Watson drives and gets to the rim much much better. But Timmy def would give Watson a run for his money in a shooting contest. Me and Timmy were at the William Patterson game a few yrs ago, a bunch of us drove down, and I remember him saying he wishes he was able to play for Mitch. If he were on this team and he bought in, and again he def was a gunner but it's all he knew bc we had guys from the baseball team on our bball team for conditioning his sr yr lol, it would be absolutely lethal. We would avg 100 a game lol
And to add to that, I may be underselling Timmy bc it's been 8 yrs since I've seen him play, but let me just say he put up 64 on Mitchell at the nest on all jumpers and double teams lol no grinnell system
Wow he sounds like an unbelievable talent. I really wish I got to see him play now. I wish more past players would come out and watch some of the games. I am sure that most of them would say they would love to play for Coach Oliver. The offensive sets they run and even the inbounds plays are all designed and practiced to perfection. Each one is designed to get an open shot and I can only imagine how intense there practices at the Nest are. I'm am sure that they are nothing like a typical D3 practice. Coach Oliver demands the best out of his players and that why they are successful. I am glad he is here but I have to imagine that eventually he is going to get an offer at a higher division. Whether it be D2 or D1, between the turn around here at Albertus and his past D1 coaching experience at Quinnipiac and Sacred Heart he is clearly more than qualified to land a higher profile job. (I sure hope he stays though LOL, Selfishly of course, These games are just too convenient and to fun to watch)
WOW... GNAC and Junkie, you guys are getting me hyped!!! Too bad next game is in 3 weeks. lol...
I couldn't agree more on all your points - from how impressive Mitch Oliver has been to the turn over issues. I want to see these team in a dog fight, 5 minutes left soon. I think that this team has not hit full potential. I think Jennings is not 100% and Mitch is not rushing him back. I think he can afford to make sure he is healthy and get him slowly back into the rotation. He may not get back into the starting rotation, but we should see him getting 18-22 mins by late January.
I can't wait to see them live... Purchase top 25 now, can't wait to see this center.. He might not be 7'2.. sometimes they lie on rosters... lol.. but, good non conference contest.
one more thing on Mitch, he is only full time coach on staff. he basically does most of the recruitment as well... So impressive.
As for Timmy, he can flat out shoot. If he was on this team, Davis would hit him soo many times. Defenses would not know what to do.. You either double Watson or Timmy.. WOW.. Davis would have 15+ assist every game.. Timmy and Watson could shoot lights out.. just a nightmare for defenses.. I do agree with GNAC, Watson better all around player but Timmy best shooter in Albertus history.
Let's go Falcons!!
PS. 7, just a typo.. It's a conference game on Saturday.
Just to let the posters on this board know......Emerson beat Amherst this afternoon 90-79 at Emerson. Heard that Emerson was ranked last in the pre-season in the GNAC. Watch out members....Emerson has beat two teams in the NESCAC that were ranked in the upper tier in the pre-season. FYI, Amherst was ranked no. 1 in the country and the defending Nat. title holder in Div3.....and was on a 29 game winning streak.
I think Emerson is in the NEWMAC this season. That should be a fun race with WPI, Springfield, etc.
They are in the NEWMAC this season. As a GNAC fan I wish they were still in the conference but unfortunately they made a move that they felt was necessary. Jim O'Brien is the head coach who as some will know is the former head coach at Ohio State where he guided his team to a Final Four. He brought in quite a few recruits last year and I am certain that this team will be a NEWMAC contender year in and year out as long as he is the head coach there. Congrats to Emerson on a tremendous win.
Gordonmann...and et al......thanks for the correction. I had posted my short comment on the NEWMAC board first....thought about it and read some OLD posts on this board and made the "correction" which now needs to be corrected again.
Quote from: amh63 on December 07, 2013, 07:44:05 PM
Gordonmann...and et al......thanks for the correction. I had posted my short comment on the NEWMAC board first....thought about it and read some OLD posts on this board and made the "correction" which now needs to be corrected again.
Hey Amh,
You are always welcomed in the GNAC thread. You bring a good perspective and insights from the other conferences in the region. Great win by Emerson, sad to see them leave last spring. But, I can understand the move. It would have been fun to play against the Jim O'Brien teams over the years. It would have also brought a little more credibility to the GNAC.
Just noticed Eian Davis is 2nd in the country for Assists Per Game with 9 and Vic is 2nd for Blocks Per Game at just over 4! Good stuff! Can't wait until after the layoff...
Albertus up to 31 in the rankings.. They don't play another D3 opponent until January 7. So I don't expect to see much movement in the polls for Albertus until mid January. Unless they lost a conference game before then. Or shock everyone with a victory in New Britain against CCSU (highly unlikely that happens).
They may be a big showdown with SUNY Purchase on January 27. If Albertus remains unbeaten at home prior to this game, they will be carrying a 32 home court win streak vs the currently ranked 23 team in the country.
I was really hoping that my Emmanuel Saints would turn things around this year and make a run for the third or fourth spot in the conference playoffs, but after the first eight games my hopes are starting to fade. Things are going exactly in the same direction as last year. The Saints stand at 1 – 7, the exact same record as this time last year. I went to the tip off tournament in November expecting to see a returning lineup of experienced, veteran players with a big front line and a GNAC tested back court. It took less than two minutes into the first game of the season to realize that I didn't recognize ONE player on the court. All five players were brand new. I had to go out to the lobby to get a program to find out the names of the players wearing a Saints uniform. The big front line that I was expecting to see were all gone, not even on the roster. The experienced senior backcourt were still on the roster but buried deep on the bench. There are ten new faces on the roster this year. This is the third straight year that the roster has had more than a 70% makeover, and I was really caught by surprise to see so many new players again this year. I spent the better part of last season learning the names of the seven new players on last year's team, and now six of those seven players from last year are no longer on the team. This year I was hoping to see some growth and development from the players who were in the starting line up on last year's team, especially the big men who would have all been upperclassmen this year, but they are all gone. If you are not Kentucky or Kansas how do you lose all the returning players from your previous year's starting lineup? I guess that player development, teamwork, and good court chemistry take time to happen and constant roster changes make that difficult. Eleven different players have been in the starting lineup so far this year and they have only played eight games. To have multiple rebuilding years really hurts program continuity.
I was hoping to see an improvement in the three key areas that hurt the team last year, transition defense, 3 point shooting percentage, and turnovers. Well, graduation really did help the turnover numbers, turnovers are down by an average of five per game with the new lineup. However, transition defense that has trouble containing driving lanes, and 3 point shooting percentage are still problems . A new problem this year is shot selection, quick shots off the first pass in the front court, and lots of three point attempts not by offensive design that lead to opponents run outs and easy baskets at the other end of the court. Why is it so difficult to have two or three ball reversals before looking for an open shot ? If you have players with slasher / driver skill sets on the court why are you jacking up 16 – 19 three point shots per game? The faces have changed but the results are the same. Hopefully, all the new players will learn to play together quickly and they will get some better ball movement into their offensive possessions. The second semester has to be better than the first.
Paul,
Good insights from the Saints.. Where did the guys from last year go? Did they all transfer out? I know that many of the players from the previous teams were from out of state. But, it should be alarming to have so many new faces over the course of 3 years; especially in a weak conference and not getting to the semi-finals of the conference in at least 4 years.
What are your thoughts?
pjunito, thank you for your reply and also for your questions.
As far as last year's Saints team is concerned, to the best of my knowledge six of the seven recruited freshman quit the team and at least four of them transferred out of the school. One junior, a center in the starting line up, quit the team after the 18 th game of the season. He was averaging 28 min per game and getting 14 & 8 per night. He is still in school as a senior this year but not on the team. Another junior guard quit the team after the first game of the season but later returned and is currently sitting the bench as a senior. The junior center who quit left a big hole in the middle of the paint. He was shooting 56% from the field and clogging driving lanes at the defensive end of the court. He presented a real low post threat and could draw double teams from the perimeter creating shot opportunities for other players. If the Saints had an athletic post player on the team this year who could score, rebound, and shoot 56%, I am sure that their record would not be 1 - 7. I can think of at least 3 or 4 games they played so far this year where a post presence would have made a difference in the outcome. Unfortunately, in the last four years this large volume of roster defections is the norm, not the exception. As a fan and an avid spectator I feel cheated not getting to watch incoming freshman grow and develop their skill sets. The best part about watching college basketball is following the development of players thoughout their careers. It is very satisfying as a fan to see timid freshman, afraid to shoot the ball, mature into team leaders who make clutch baskets, pressure free throws, big defensive stops, and are suddenly willing to step in and take charging fouls to save a game. The growth and development aspect of the Saints program has been missing for at least four years now.
As far as this year's team is concerned, I think that the best game the Saints played so far was the 2 point loss to Emerson. They played better in the loss to Emerson than they did in their one win over Westfield State. In the Emerson game they only attempted 5 three point shots in the whole game, and ended up with 14 assists on 22 field goals, a very good ratio which shows that they were really moving the ball. By limiting their three point attempts and moving the ball better they got higher percentage shots, which really helped since they don't really have a pure shooter or a good three point shooter on the team. Moving the ball slowed the game down and kept Emerson from getting easy run outs. It helped keep them in the game and all they needed was one more defensive stop to beat Emerson.
I did not think that they played that well in their win over Westfield State. Westfield showed an even worse shot selection ( 38 3's attempted ) than the Saints ( only 10 3's attempted ) and compounded it by giving the Saints 45 free throws. The Saints won by 8 points and scored 35 points from the free throw line, a gift from Westfield. All the 3 point attempts by Westfield gave the Saints easy run outs at the other end of the court and made their shot selection much better than if they had to run their set offense. A gift , but the saying goes in basketball " any win is a good win." We will take it.
Welcome to the Board Saint Paul, its great getting some insight from another team in the conference.
Its the night before the big game for the Falcons as they travel to D1 Central CT tomorrow to take on the Devils in a 1PM contest.
I am sure that the team will be in high spirits as well they should be. This is a great opportunity for Albertus to come out play extremely loose and have a ton of fun. From a fans perspective I need to be realistic and know that deep down this is going to be a very tough matchup for the Falcons. (Notice how I didn't use the L word there, I just cant do it)
Central is going to be ready and wanting to lay a beat down on a lower Division team after a rough start to there own season. For Albertus, if they can come out and knock down some three pointers and limit the second chance points for Central I really feel like they can stay in the game for a while. Ultimately the strength and size of Central will be the key factor in this game.
I still honestly believe that there isn't a player on Central capable of checking Darius as there guards are actually a little to small and there bigs are almost to big and slow. At 6-5 Darius is one of those in between players for his position that makes for an extremely tough matchup because of his ability to knock down 3's and at the same time take you right to the hole.
I also think that guard Eian Davis is more than capable of holding his own but as I mentioned earlier the interior and second chance points will be tough to stop for the Falcons. I just hope they come out and play there game and give the Devils a little scare before the New Years. Ultimately I think anything under 25 points would be an outstanding showing for the Falcons and I think they are more than capable of doing so
I cant begin to put into words what an effort the Albertus Falcons gave today in a tough tough loss to Division 1 Central CT State University. Final Score Central 85 Albertus 82. That is no typo there folks, just an outstanding performance overall from everybody on the team. Darius Watson was outstanding and Victor L looked like a monster out there against these D1 players.
Ill be the first one to admit that my prediction was completely off and I couldn't be happier. I thought Albertus needed to make a lot of outside shots to stay in the game and in actuality we had one of our worst performances from three on the year and actually outscored a much bigger Central team in the paint. Not only that but we OUTREBOUNDED them too. I really couldn't believe it. Central Coach Howie Dickenman,(who is a tremendous coach and has been a great leader of the Central program for many years) looked almost shocked on the sidelines and at some points just didn't know what to do. Coach Oliver coached his ass off. I was sitting on the opposite side of the benches but I could just tell in the huddles that the team was listening to Oliver and really believed they could win the game.
I'm not going to go through individual stats because you can all do that on your own but James Jennings hit a clutch 3 pointer to put the Falcons ahead with under a minute to go but unfortunately on the other end they had a defensive let down and allowed Central to drive right to the hoop and retake the lead. In the end Albertus wasn't able to get off a clean look at the hoop and the game came to completion.
This might result in a Loss on the schedule but by no means was this a Loss for the Albertus Magnus Program. Just a great game and a game that at the end of the season we can look back at and say that it was a special moment. And maybe now the New Haven Register or CT Post will start giving the Falcons a little love as the season goes on because everybody knows they have earned it.
Also I've never been one to look into the top 25 rankings, I never really thought they meant much but if the Falcons aren't in the Top 25 this week after this game then I really will not pay attention to them at all anymore because its a total waste.
Hats off to the Falcons and Coach Oliver. This is going to be a special year. Lets keep it going!!!!!!
Paul,
Sounds like there might be an issue at Emmanuel. You can't lose that many freshmen without their being an issue. Either the coach did some poor recruiting or the players didn't want to play for him anymore. I think the GNAC would get so much more respect if we have Emmanuel and Lasell playing the way they did 6 years ago. I hope things turn around up there, I remember how frustrating it was to see Albertus struggle.
Keep us informed on how things shape up.
Junkie,
After the first game of the year, a guy I respect told me this is the most talented team under Oliver and probably most talented ever at Albertus. Talent doesn't always mean the team will win, however. I believe it takes most teams 8-10 games to gel and find themselves; especially when you have new pieces. Well, after 8 games, I am impressed. The stats don't tell the whole story. Albertus was down for most of the game and down between 8 and 12. But, they never stopped fighting. Victor L was very impressive, if he plays like that the rest of the year. He will be first team GNAC. The played tough the entire game and was the better team the final 5 minutes of the game. This team could be a special one, still a lot of season left. But, if they play together and hard on the boards (something they've lacked since Askew graduated) they will be a tough out. I am also impressed with Jennings, he isn't afraid to have the ball in his hands. I think that will serve Albertus well as they play strong competition.
The Top 25 is a wonderful accomplishment for the team and also the school. A good recruiting tool also. But, I agree with you in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. Albertus, if they continue to win, will crack the top 25, but I prefer for them to make a good run in the tournament this year and get more respect at the National and Regional levels.
Let's enjoy the next week and come back and root for the falcons second semester.
Junkie, pjunito,
Excellent posts as usual. I didn't have a chance to see the game today, some personal matters came up and totally missed the game. I can't tell you how proud I was to read the final score. This is Howie Dickenmann, the guy who almost upset Marcus Fizer/Jamal Tinsley Iowa st team led by Larry eustachy in the 99 ncaa tourney. But little albertus marches in to new Britain and took some shots early in the game, but never went down. A total confidence booster for this team. Victor can clearly be a mid major d1 player, as well as Watson and Davis being scholarship players at some school as well. But they are at albertus and what a trio they make. I can't wait to see this team in person again since I only have seen them at Mitchell. Pjunito, whoever that guy was that told you that clearly was on point. I don't see any team competing with albertus in the gnac. I actually wish that weren't the case but albertus has completely taken their game to another level no team in the gnac has gone. I'll stop there. In the words of bill Simmons, "yea I'm a big time homer, but you have to admit I just made some pretty freaking good points." Go falcons
I emailed the new haven register editor, it's a sham they had no mention of this game. Meanwhile i found a yahoo article on the game. How's that work? Lol
Found this too
http://www.ccsufans.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2755
Haha reading the CCSU thread certainly made this "going back to work after New Year's" feeling a little better!
Quote from: GnacBballFan on January 01, 2014, 04:04:58 PM
I emailed the new haven register editor, it's a sham they had no mention of this game. Meanwhile i found a yahoo article on the game. How's that work? Lol
Found this too
http://www.ccsufans.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2755
I feel for those guys... I hope there are no bridges in New Britain..
http://sportzedge.com/2014/01/03/albertus-magnus-mens-basketball-making-big-time-noise/
The Saints return from semester break facing two difficult games.
1 - On Sunday to play an NAIA school Fisher College. Not under NCAA rules Fisher is able to start their season early and already has played 15 games, going 7 - 8. They play a mixed schedule of NCAA D-3 schools along with some NAIA schools. They have lost to Colby, Emerson, and Endicott but have beaten Framingham State. They are not big in size but they have three very athletic wings that play above rim level ( 5'10, 6'3', 6'3", 6'3", 6'6" ) . One of the wings , Shuler, is a prolific scorer. This is going to be a tough game for the Saints. The athletic Fisher wings are going to give the Saints transition defense trouble. I hope that the Saints do not try to run with Fisher, pack in there defense and try to clog the lane to limit the athletic wings getting to the rim. Fisher is not a great outside shooting team but because of their transition layups they shoot a high percentage for the game. I really think that the Saints need to start two of their experienced senior guards instead of the inexperienced freshman in order to handle the Fisher defensive pressure. For the first game back after a long break this will be a difficult game.
2 - On Tuesday it is back to conference play against a very athletic J & W team. J & W has a big front line, 6'5", 6'6", 6'7", not just big but also long and athletic. This is going to give the Saints trouble in the paint where they are not very big or experienced. J & W also has two high scoring guards who don't force shots but only take what is available. The guards don't jack up 3's, they move the ball and know how to finish around the rim, especially Greenaway who must be contained if the Saints hope to stay in this game. Again, I hope that the Saints don't try to full court press this team, especially with inexperienced freshman guards. I would like to see the Saints pack in their defense below the arc and force J & W out of their comfort area and into shooting a lot of 3's.
Side Note : this has nothing to do with Tuesday's game but I thought that it was very funny that back in December J & W played in the national J & W tournament where every team in the tournament is named Johnson & Wales. Must have been an announcers nightmare.
GNAC, great video... Watson is the only senior who plays.. wow..
Paul, JWU has four campuses throughout the nation. I had no idea they played this tournament until this year. I wonder if they all have the same nickname?
Also, it is all about the conference games now. I am not sure any GNAC team can get an at large bid. Let me know how JWU looks, they are usually top 4 in conference. They suffered a lost at St. Joe's, and beat up on Anna Maria. I really want to see how this team looks.
Quote from: pjunito on January 04, 2014, 05:00:40 PM
GNAC, great video... Watson is the only senior who plays.. wow..
Paul, JWU has four campuses throughout the nation. I had no idea they played this tournament until this year. I wonder if they all have the same nickname?
Also, it is all about the conference games now. I am not sure any GNAC team can get an at large bid. Let me know how JWU looks, they are usually top 4 in conference. They suffered a lost at St. Joe's, and beat up on Anna Maria. I really want to see how this team looks.
Yes, they are all known as the Wildcats.
Thanks Sac.
The Saints pull out a surprise win over Fisher College on Sunday, 82 - 76. Two of the Saints guards combined for 46 of the 82 points. The Saints guards have not played that well all year, this is the first time both guards reached double figures in the same game. It will be interesting to see if they can sustain that momentum on Tuesday against a very athletic J&W team.
Paul,
Was that the two starting guards who scored 50% of the points, or all guards?
Thanks to Titan Q for posting this on the top 25 thread.
Updated Massey...
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cb2014&sub=11620
Albertus is number 19.
one starter and one sub, but the first time both had a good game at the same time.
J&W had a nice win against RIC the other day. The 85 points J&W put up, was the highest RIC has allowed in almost 2 years since January 14 of 2012 when Keene State (with Ryan Martin, Rashard Wright, etc) scored 92 on them.
Thanks for the video link on the Falcons GNAC, I saw it on the news a couple days later but its nice to check it out again. Awesome updates on Emmanuel Saint-Paul, again its great getting another perspective here on the GNAC board and your insight is very informative. Keep them coming!!! Titan Q and PJ, that's an awesome link on the Massey rankings. I've never seen that site before and it certainly gives an interesting take on the ranking. The Falcons sit just outside the D3Hoops Top 25 and I would imagine if they have a 3 and 0 week which I suspect they will, that they will be in the Top 25 next week. With a favorable matchup tonight against Norwich and a game on Thursday against what I believe is an improved Rivier squad followed by the Suffolk game Saturday afternoon in Boston, I really like the Falcons odds at going 3-0 this week.
Quote from: pjunito on January 03, 2014, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: GnacBballFan on January 01, 2014, 04:04:58 PM
I emailed the new haven register editor, it's a sham they had no mention of this game. Meanwhile i found a yahoo article on the game. How's that work? Lol
Found this too
http://www.ccsufans.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2755
I feel for those guys... I hope there are no bridges in New Britain..
Belated congrats to Albertus Magnus on a fine game vs CCSU. Wish them luck through the rest of the season!! Channel 8 (WTNH I think), had a couple of nice clips of the game and interviews with AM players, which was finally nice to see vs all the publicity UConn gets every day on Connecticut Sports channels ???
Thanks ECSU! It's def a nice switch up, especially after that 0-2 uconn road trip to Texas lol
Falcons at home tonight against Norwich, finally a home game! Lol
Junkie let's hope, would be great if we go into Purchase game both undefeated in D3, which will be a top 25 matchup at the nest if so. First time two top 25's would be squaring off at amc!
Quote from: ECSUalum on January 07, 2014, 11:47:33 AM
Quote from: pjunito on January 03, 2014, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: GnacBballFan on January 01, 2014, 04:04:58 PM
I emailed the new haven register editor, it's a sham they had no mention of this game. Meanwhile i found a yahoo article on the game. How's that work? Lol
Found this too
http://www.ccsufans.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2755
I feel for those guys... I hope there are no bridges in New Britain..
Belated congrats to Albertus Magnus on a fine game vs CCSU. Wish them luck through the rest of the season!! Channel 8 (WTNH I think), had a couple of nice clips of the game and interviews with AM players, which was finally nice to see vs all the publicity UConn gets every day on Connecticut Sports channels ???
ECSU - tough games in Florida for East Conn over the break. But, I am a firm believer that trips like that make teams better in February and March. Hope they have a successful conference season. It is good to see ya in the GNAC boards. I am always in the little east boards, but don't really know a lot about those schools or players or coaches to comment. You and 7 (or as I like to call him Jimmy the 7) always give great insights.
Wait, are you saying that the State of Connecticut has more than 3 institutions of higher learning? Go on now...
Hopefully East Conn, West Conn, and Albertus will continue to get more media attention as the season progresses.
GNAC... All I did was copy and paste. All the credit goes to Titan.
WTNH is at the game
46-35 albertus at half over Norwich. Falcons came out flat and took some bad shots. Then turned up a bit with about 6 mins left. Here's a 45 second sequence of the 6'8 juco transfer Victor Ldujaja(that the right spelling lol?). Steps back and hits a three, next possession put back dunk, next possession amc turns it over, fast break 2 Norwich guys and just Vic, and he blocks the shot to about the third row
Albertus wins 97-85, as Norwich hits a three at buzzer to make it look respectable. Lackluster performance by amc, they were in control all game and never in danger but they took bad shots and went in spurts. Credit the cadets for hitting some shots of their own and playing to the last second. Albertus can't play like this against the like of purchase or JWU. Anyone see that JWU Emmanuel score?? Jeez anyone have any insight lol that's a big differential
Final Score : J & W 94 - Emmanuel 36
After the first 6 minutes this game was not very competitive. J&W used an aggressive man to man defense to force turnovers and hurried shots to go on a 31 - 9 run to close the first half with a 26 point lead. The second half was mostly substitutions and one pass shots not by offensive design. The J & W lead reached 60 points at one spot late in the second half. The Saints looked like a JV team playing against a varsity, finishing the night with 26 turnovers.
J&W put 5 athletic players on the court who defended passing lanes very well, rebounded the ball, and got out in transition to finish plays at the rim. They have a 6'7" big man who can step out to 21 feet and shoot 3's. The guard Greenaway is the real deal, he is quick, can both shoot and drive to the basket and defends all over the court. J&W has a deep rotation, they can go 8 players deep and not lose momentum. They play very unselfish, they move the ball and don't force shots, they can score against both zone and man defenses. The only negative that I saw was closing out shooters off the skip pass. They were late recovering from a help position and closed out with their hands down giving up too many open 3 point looks. Against a better team those 3 point shots may hurt them. Other than that they looked to be a very solid team that has active hands on defense, use defensive stops to generate transition, and very patiently runs their half court sets.
The score of the J&W game was not the big story on Tuesday night. The big story was more Saints roster changes again. Two more players have left the team. That makes a total of three so far this year. Their leading scorer and rebounder from the first semester is no longer listed on the roster. This is the second year in a row the Saints starting center and leading scorer / rebounder has left the team in the middle of the season. He was not a recruited freshman, only a junior college transfer so he was only part of the program for eight games, but still, it's another player who didn't finish the season. The second player who left the team was a bit of a shock, the Saints senior point guard and team captain who has played over 75 career games for the Saints is no longer on the roster. For a senior captain who has been through 54 GNAC games to quit the team 15 games shy of senior night is an indication that something is very wrong in the Saints program. There is a real cancer somewhere in the Saints program. This now makes 28 players who have quit the Saints basketball program in the last five seasons. That's an average of 5.6 players per year and I find that alarming. I can't be the only Saints fan to notice the constant roster changes. I would assume that when so many uniforms and warm ups are returned to the equipment room each year that somebody takes notice.
GNAC I agree with you, Albertus needs to remain focus for a full 40 minutes. At home against a weaker opponent they need to be able to control the game. Interesting to see how they respond on the road against an improved Rivier team on Thursday. And they have Suffolk on Saturday in Boston.. Albertus lost there last year and beat them this year at home by 30. I hope they don't take that game lightly.
Will love to see how Albertus plays against JWU, Lasell, and St. Joes. These teams are all very solid in the GNAC. Having strong out of conference within region wins.
St. Paul - wow.. You are right. Something is going on. Do you know if the Center failed off the team? The senior captain quitting is a big sign. The AD there has to be concerned. Whenever a D3 tuition driven institution begins to lose student-athletes mid year, it hurts the budget. You can't have 28 students leave in a 5 year span without an investigation. I hope the AD there is conducting one. If not, he needs to. Something is going on and I hope it gets fixed. I remember Emmanuel being a very good basketball team within the region in the early 2000s and their women program has received national recognition for the better part of 10 years. A 50 point lost at home has to bring huge sirens!
Last Night Games:
Rivier 62 Mount Ida 42
Lasell 82 Keene St. 68
Anna Maria 71 Suffolk 74
Norwich 85 Albertus Magnus 97
Johnson & Wales (RI) 94 Emmanuel 36
Huge win by Lasell last night. Keene may not be a good basketball team this year, I have no idea. But, whenever a GNAC team beats a Little East team, the region begins looking closer at the conference. I think that helps the conference, since it has been very weak top to bottom over the last 6 years.
The GNAC is now 3-2 versus the little east this year.
pjunito, thanks for your reply and also for your questions.
I have no idea what factor is responsible for driving so many players out of the Saints program. It cannot just be the wins and losses, other GNAC teams also have sub 0.500 records and they are not losing players at this pace. It has to be something more than just losing games, like the way the players are being treated in practice or what is being said to them at halftime and after games. To continually berate and degrade your own players perpetuates a losing atmosphere and takes a toll on the players moral. A lack of encouragement and positive support can hurt players more than the final score of the games.
Whatever the reason is, it also affects their play on the court. What I can see when observing a game is that the players do not appear to be running the plays as they are designed. They take quick shots in transition, often from behind the three point line, they ignore the low post even if the post player has the defender sealed on his hip, the extra pass to the weak side corner never gets made, and they love to drive into defensive traffic and force up a shot even with one or sometimes two open teammates on the blocks. What I really notice is that after a quick shot is missed, there does not appear to be any sense of urgency to sprint back on defense and defend the paint. That in itself is a huge red flag. When players stop sprinting back on defense you know that something is very wrong on that team. Not sprinting back on defense is a sign that the players don't care about winning, they are only playing for their individual stats. The players just don't exhibit good team chemistry that I see in some of the other GNAC teams. That is a real concern. Whatever factor is causing so many players to quit the team is also affecting how they play together as a team.
Wow it sounds like a mess up there in Emmanuel, thanks for the insight. That rate is def alarming to say the least. And to me, and not to take a shot, but it all starts at the top and coach Jackson. Maybe it's time for a change
Mt Ida / Emmanuel preview - When these two teams played in December it was a fairly even game at four positions except for the Mt Ida two guard who kept getting open from behind the arc. He nailed two big 3 point shots in the last five minutes of the game to swing the momentum to the Mustangs. If the Saints guards can locate the Mt Ida shooters at the defensive end of the floor and chase them off the arc this should be a two point or overtime game. Neither team has a standout player, or dominates in the paint so it should be a competitive game. I would be surprised if either team is able to run away with this game. I hope that the Saints are able to shake off a 60 point drubbing in their last game and come out with some intensity and effort especially at the defensive end of the floor. This is the Saints chance to get their first GNAC win of the season.
Albertus 44 Rivier 34 at half in New Hampshire. Albertus shooting ball well from behind the arc, but Rivier is getting to the basketball.
Looks like albertus is playing Rivier and the refs. Refs are calling albertus if they cough when riv has ball. Sorry don't wanna be that guy but it's an absolute joke
Albertus wins 93 - 82 at Rivier. The game changed when Oliver called a time-out with about 7 minutes left. The score was 79-71, Rivier was on a run to cut a 15 point lead to 8. Albertus applied a tough man to man pressed and scored 5 points in 40 seconds. They pushed the lead back to 15 and coasted from there.
Lot of questionable foul calls in the game, both ways, but Riv was in the bonus 6 minutes into the half.
Albertus plays at Suffolk on Saturday.
Any news on Marc Wilson? Haven't been able to catch much of the action, but I did see him in the Central game (16 minutes). Then he only played 9 against Norwich, and wasn't even listed in the box score for last night's game. Perhaps an injury? I know AMC is always good for a player or two leaving the roster after the break, but he was there for CCSU and Norwich so that's not it.
Final Score : Mt IDA 55 - EMMANUEL 48
What can I say about this game. It looked like TWO JV teams playing each other. The game summary can be captured in three items; poor shooting, fouls, and turnovers. The Saints finish the game with only 13 field goals on 25% shooting. The Mustangs were not much better finishing with 15 field goals on 35% shooting. Both team combined for 31 turnovers and 54 free throws. Not a pleasant basketball viewing experience. The Saints never seem to recruit any players who could be classified as a " pure " shooter. They always recruit the driver / slasher type player but then they always end up settling for a lot of outside jump shots. Don't understand that strategy. If you are going to bring in junior college transfers to fill up all the empty uniforms at least bring in the ones who can shoot the ball.
Preview : Norwich / Emmanuel
Both teams have exactly the same record, 2 - 9, but Norwich has played much better in their 9 losses. They do not get blown out, they hang tough, and play close games even with some very good teams. Norwich has two high scoring guards in McDonald and Gladden, and have a very athletic forward in Tullar. The Saints struggle with teams that have guards who can make 3 point shots. They don't close out very well, and their constant full court pressing gives up open 3 point looks in transition. One of these two teams will get their first GNAC win on Saturday and if the Saints want to be that team they will have to turn up their defense on the Cadets guards and chase them off the arc.
Results from Thursday's games:
Emmanuel 48 Mount Ida 55 Final
Saint Joseph's (Me.) 51 Norwich 50 Final
Suffolk 61 Johnson & Wales (RI) 86 Final
Albertus Magnus 93 Rivier 82 Final
Anna Maria 65 Lasell 96 Final
No real surprises here; Norwich almost pulled an upset against St. Joes. Norwich is a solid team, but they don't have a lot of depth. They need to keep their starting 5 on the court to have a chance and they were able to do that against St. Joes. I know Lasell is much improved but I am shocked at the score. Anna Maria does not look like the same team that went to back to back championship games..
Here is Saturday's schedule:
Rivier at Johnson & Wales (RI) 1:00 PM
Saint Joseph's (Me.) at Anna Maria 3:00 PM
Norwich at Emmanuel 3:00 PM
Albertus Magnus at Suffolk 3:00 PM
Mount Ida at Lasell 3:00 PM
In your opinion, who is the second best team in this conference behind Albertus Magnus? If I'm looking for the biggest test in conference, which game(s) is it?
Gordon,
I cannot say that I have seen all the teams play, but I do check on how they are doing. And to me, it's Johnson and Wales followed by Lasell, in my opinion
GNAC,
I agree with you on Johnson and Whales. I beleive they are clearly a top 3 team. I am however suprised you didnt include St. Joes over Lasell for yout assesment to Gordon. Im guessing its because maybe you havent seen them play yet?? I beleive that St Joes and JWU are right there with one and other in terms of the race for 2nd place. I beleive that St. Joes Head Coach Rob Sanicolla is hands down one of the best coaches in the league and really prepares his teams well for big games.
For me Gordon I would have JWU (because of there athleticism) St Joes and then Lassel.
Junkie,
I have no argument there. I haven't seen them play, but I saw they beat Norwich by 1, which to me seems they should win by at least 7 points or higher to be a top 3 team. I saw Norwich and they are a young undersized team, so I would think st joes would have beaten them by more. But could have been an off night, so I'm in no disagreeance. That coach is a great coach I agree. Lasell coach has also done a great job himself. Time will tell!
Absolutley GNAC, Couldnt agree more. Just proposed the question to you to stir up a little healthy conversation. I think we should do a little more debating here with each other even if it is all about Albertus LOL, and are newest poster Saint Paul who brings an excellent perspective on the Emmanuel Saints.
Falcons at Suffolk in a couple hours. I wont be there but Albertus handed them a pretty rough loss earlier in the season at the Nest. As long as they stay out of foul trouble and play there game they should roll.
I've watched about 10 minutes of this first half and it's clear to see...Eian Davis is a huge fan of the Rondo behind the back fake haha
AMC up 45-33 at the half. Some lackluster transition D by Albertus led to some easy buckets for Suffolk. As I admitted in a previous post, I haven't watched too much but it seems like Vic could get whatever he wants (especially against this team) but they don't really run anything through him. All his offensive production seems to be 2nd chance or dump offs under the hoop. Just an aberration this half or is it like that all the time?
I totally forgot that Suffolk provided a live stream of the game. I just caught the last minute of the 1st half and will definitely be watching the 2nd. At the half Albertus leads 45 to 33. Normally theGNAC.com website and even Albertus will post the links on their schedules to all the games but there was none to be found. I decided to check the Suffolk website and sure enough there was a link.
Forgot to thank LilDave, I read your post and that's what made me look at Suffolks website so thank you!!!
you got it! I only found it because I looked for a link on the AMC website...saw there wasn't even a box score so I scooted over to the Suffolk site and happened to find the link...and Davis tried the Rondo AGAIN haha
Nice win for Albertus. 95 to 73 I believe it was. They had the scoreboard shut off before the hand shake line was through. Eian Davis had a couple unbelievable moves and the team played well. Defense does have to improve but I believe it will when they play a much more difficult opponent.
Also forgot to mention earlier that last night on New Channel 8 SportsEdge there was yet another nice piece on the Falcons and it included player interviewers as well as some nice commentary from Coach Oliver. Im sure it is online now. All Falcons fans should take a look!!! Finally some RESPECT from the local news networks. Now we just have to get the papers involved.
http://sportzedge.com/2014/01/11/albertus-magnus-basketball-becoming-d-3-power/
Found the Link......Check it out boys and girls
Quote from: gordonmann on January 10, 2014, 05:35:11 PM
In your opinion, who is the second best team in this conference behind Albertus Magnus? If I'm looking for the biggest test in conference, which game(s) is it?
Gordon,
JWU has been playing great since the end of the first semester. They lost a game in Maine versus St. Joe's a tough place to win a game as the visiting team. They are well coached and play great team defense. However, JWU has had some good wins since that game and have been blowing people out within the conference. I would list JWU two, St. Joe's three, and Lasell 4. I think Lasell is inexperience, but they remind me of Anna Maria the last two years. They have skill players who don't play discipline, however, can match up against anyone including Albertus.
St. Joe is the Northeast D3 version of Wisconsin. lol.
Would love to get more posters from JWU, ST. Joes on the boards.
Thanks for the video Junkie.. I agree, finally a little love from the local media...
Albertus with a good win, only one real surprise within the conference as Lasell wins in double Overtime versus Mt. Ida. St. Joes, Albertus, and JWU all win big.
One good sign, Albertus shot the ball horribly from the three point arc. 15% 3-19 and still won by 21. They were great getting to the rim and went to the line 35 times. This tells me that they can win even if they are missing their 3s, which they haven't been this season.
Albertus gets a little breather, next game is on Wednesday at home vs Anna Maria.
Great stuff guys, I cant keep up lol. Albertus most likely moves up to 24 or 25 in poll's this week.
Another episode of Hoopsville is slated for tonight... and Albertus Magnus's Mitch Oliver will be on the show to talk about the team's 10-1 start. We also have the following guests lined-up:
Scranton's Mike Strong on win #800
Wellesley's Jennifer Kroll (Northeast Region)
#15 Virginia Wesleyan's Dave Macedo on win #300 (South Region & Coach's Corner)
#18 SUNY Purchase's Jeff Chaney (Atlantic Region)
#13 St. Norbert's Gary Grezesk (Central/Midwest Region)
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Thanks Dave!
Sounds like a good line-up Dave. Interesting to see what Coach Oliver thinks of this team compared to his last three GNAC winning teams.
Could you ask him about Marc Wilson, he hasn't play the last two games. Did he get hurt?
Nice interview by Coach Oliver on Hoopsville. Good to hear that Marc Wilson is just battling the flu and could return Wednesday. All thing considered with the wins and losses of other teams I would agree with GNAC and say that on Tuesday the Falcons will be ranked anywhere from 23 to 25.
Really excited for the home contest with SUNY Purchase. They are currently undefeated and ranked 18th. If they continue to win and so do we this will be a Top 25 matchup and an excellent game. No need to look it up in the archives because I am 99.9% certain that this will indeed be the first ever contest between 2 top 25 teams at the Nest if both teams can keep the "status quo." Should be a lot of fun to watch, and excellent late game schedule by Coach Oliver and the crew.
Nice show Dave. Lots of good information and things to look forward to...
As with Coach Oliver, I liked that he was able to expand on the team. You can tell that he believes this team has quality players and are deeper than previous falcon teams. Wilson being back will be a great help. He causes match-up problems as well.
I think the GNAC is better this year than last (Albertus lost 3 conference games last year). So, it will be interesting to see how they fair in games versus Lasell, JWU, and St. Joe's.
I think Oliver has the right attitude, win the league. That is the goal. They players and coaching staff won't get caught up in top 25 talk (let's face it, they lose a conference game, and they won't be in top 25 for long). But, this season should be able winning the league and having an opportunity to play in the tournament.
Final Score: Norwich 81 - Emmanuel 76
At least the Saints didn't look like a JV team in this game, they played like a college varsity team. They shot the ball much better than last week, played a much better game, finishing with 31 field goals on 17 assists and getting points from ten different players. I had a feeling that the Norwich guards would give the Saints trouble and that turned out to be true. Gladden and McDonald finished with a combined 50 points on 16 for 25 shooting. The Saints don't close out shooters very well and their full court press gives up a lot of open 3 point looks in transition. McDonald's five 3 point baskets were the difference in the game, especially the dagger 3 with under 8 minutes to play in the second half.
I was really glad to see two senior guards back in the starting line up for the Saints. The first semester line up of 4 freshman and one junior college transfer was more than puzzling, it was down right confusing. It was difficult to understand what the freshman could have done to EARN a starting berth over the experienced seniors, since the freshman had never played a single college game and the seniors had over 22 GNAC wins in their career. Going 1 - 7 in the first semester showed they were not ready to play and hadn't earned those starting spots. Maybe they were in the starting line up just so they wouldn't quit the team. The GNAC games are tightly contested regardless of team record and require seasoned players to compete. I hope the seniors get a chance to finish out the season.
The seniors look like they can at least run an offense. I would hope they continue to start and give big minutes for the saints.
Boy it sure is getting heated over there on the Top 25 board isn't it PJ and GNAC LOL. I thought it was funny how we all chimed in at right around the same time. GNAC Conference through and through baby!!!! LOL We must stick together HAHAHAHA. Lets keep up the good work on here. Maybe someday all of us here will be able to keep up with the NESCAC thread. Those guys don't stop over there. Much Respect.
Albertus vs Anna Maria preview tomorrow. Good stretch of home games for the Falcons coming up finally.....Should be a lot of fun to watch
Preview : Rivier / Emmanuel
Rivier is not a big team nor extremely athletic but they are fundamentally sound, they move the ball, can shoot, and most of all they have experience. They start 3 seniors and one junior, with two seniors coming off the bench. As far as size and foot speed the Saints should be able to match up with Rivier, but the difference in the game will be senior leadership, experience, and shooting touch. Poitras, Nelson, and Walch will be the scoring leaders for Rivier. I think that it would be a mistake to full court press this team, no sense in giving them open looks, make them try to break down a defender in the half court and then keep them off the glass.
I feel like Poitras has been there for 10 years lol
yes, you are correct about that, when I first looked at his profile pic I did a double take, I thought that he was one of the assistant coaches!
His older brother Don was an excellent player at Rivier as well. The Poitras bloodlines run deep at Rivier. When Tom was a freshman his older brother was a senior. Both very good players who are fundamentally sound and really play the game hard
Hahahaha junkie got to stick together is right! Lol unreal.......falcons crack top 25, and have some home games, can't wait!
Junkie and GNAC, great to see you guys on the top 25 thread. hlpc needs help. lol. Would love to have a GNAC presence in those rooms, maybe force people to look at Albertus. I know a lot of those guys who vote for top 25 look at those boards and more importantly, the committee does as well.
Anna Maria lost a lot last year, 3 seniors who played a lot of minutes and help the team win. That core has not been replaced. I don't see a close game against Albertus tomorrow night. I think the falcons will be well rested and motivated to beat this team. I think Albertus wins 93-78.
Albertus is now Number 23 in the top 25 rankings. First time all year they have been ranked this year. They are only a few points behind the three teams ahead of them. Two home games this week: Anna Maria on Wednesday and St. Joe's on Saturday. The St. Joe's game will give them some more creditability if they win.
Quote from: pjunito on January 14, 2014, 10:00:45 PM
Albertus is now Number 23 in the top 25 rankings. First time all year they have been ranked this year. They are only a few points behind the three teams ahead of them. Two home games this week: Anna Maria on Wednesday and St. Joe's on Saturday. The St. Joe's game will give them some more creditability if they win.
re Albertus Magnus, absolutely and well deserved!!!!!!!!!!!! Got more nice publicity on WTNH News 8 Sports this week 8-)
ECSU, Albertus has had a nice run so far. This team is much better than the previous years. I hope they are able to play well throughout conference play. They have a big match up versus SUNY Purchase and JWU the week of January 27.
Does Channel 3 or 6 give ECSU any love? They have a solid team again this year led by Salzillo (sp).. I believe he is from North Haven or somewhere down here. Not sure how Mitch Oliver let him go. Must be the difference in tuition. lol.
Quote from: pjunito on January 14, 2014, 10:13:56 PM
ECSU, Albertus has had a nice run so far. This team is much better than the previous years. I hope they are able to play well throughout conference play. They have a big match up versus SUNY Purchase and JWU the week of January 27.
Does Channel 3 or 6 give ECSU any love? They have a solid team again this year led by Salzillo (sp).. I believe he is from North Haven or somewhere down here. Not sure how Mitch Oliver let him go. Must be the difference in tuition. lol.
Thanks Punjito,
WTNH New Haven 8, and WTIC Fox 10 Hartford actually do a nice job giving other CT college/university teams, (besides UConn men and women's sports) some coverage, much more balanced. UNH and WCSU football has been covered nicely, AM, Quinnipiac, Yale basketball gets coverage, SCSU, and even ECSU baseball get some comment.
However...WFSB 3 Hartford is ridiculous, owners or high level guys must be UConn alums, 99.9% UConn coverage,(0.1% maybe for poor old CCSU), (and even with a poor UConn Football team ??? WFSB show the same UConn highlights some times 3 evenings/nights in a row. ::) I am also a UConn alum, (grad school), and as I say to some of my UConn friends, UConn just has to blow wind and Channel 3 will spend time covering it ??? It is almost absurd, I do not watch Joe Zone ??? and Channel 3 Sports anymore, its all 8, and 10!! Sorry for the rant!
PJ, I feel like I'd be surprised if the game were that close (15 or under) unless Anna Maria gets WAY UP for the game and AMC plays down to the competition. In their last 3 games Anna Maria lost to Suffolk and got waxed by Lasell and St. Joes. Crazy things do happen in the GNAC though!
Not a whole lot to contribute to the top 25 talk but I did get a chance to see a few other teams play this year.
1 - Christopher Newport - very over rated team. Soft in the paint, guards who can score but can't stop teams from scoring. Not as athletic as most of the teams in the Top 25. Not deep at all on the bench.
2 - William Patterson - very under rated. Definitely a Top 25 team. Very athletic, long and quick, can rebound, score in the half court set, great in transition, and can really defend. Right up there with AMC and J & W in athleticism and defense. Bench is just OK.
3 - Stevenson U - very under rated. Possibly a Top 25 team. Again, just as athletic as AMC and J & W. Great offensive rebounding team, great in transition, half court sets are good, bench is just OK. Real nice starting five, very long , tough defenders, and strong rebounders.
Seeing the Michael Qualls Arkansas put back dunk to beat Kentucky reminded me of the Medger Evars game two years ago ??? ??? Game winning shot goes up and everybody just watches!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcrpc59m-8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcrpc59m-8)
Quote from: ECSUalum on January 14, 2014, 10:36:31 PM
Quote from: pjunito on January 14, 2014, 10:13:56 PM
ECSU, Albertus has had a nice run so far. This team is much better than the previous years. I hope they are able to play well throughout conference play. They have a big match up versus SUNY Purchase and JWU the week of January 27.
Does Channel 3 or 6 give ECSU any love? They have a solid team again this year led by Salzillo (sp).. I believe he is from North Haven or somewhere down here. Not sure how Mitch Oliver let him go. Must be the difference in tuition. lol.
Thanks Punjito,
WTNH New Haven 8, and WTIC Fox 10 Hartford actually do a nice job giving other CT college/university teams, (besides UConn men and women's sports) some coverage, much more balanced. UNH and WCSU football has been covered nicely, AM, Quinnipiac, Yale basketball gets coverage, SCSU, and even ECSU baseball get some comment.
However...WFSB 3 Hartford is ridiculous, owners or high level guys must be UConn alums, 99.9% UConn coverage,(0.1% maybe for poor old CCSU), (and even with a poor UConn Football team ??? WFSB show the same UConn highlights some times 3 evenings/nights in a row. ::) I am also a UConn alum, (grad school), and as I say to some of my UConn friends, UConn just has to blow wind and Channel 3 will spend time covering it ??? It is almost absurd, I do not watch Joe Zone ??? and Channel 3 Sports anymore, its all 8, and 10!! Sorry for the rant!
ECSU, I appreciate the rant! We are such a small state; I would think we would have better coverage of all the colleges. D2 teams seem to get little coverage as well. I understand we are an Old person state and UConn is what most people root for (I don't, Go Red Storm) but there are too many good stories to not cover the D2 and D3 teams. I know the new AD at Albertus has connections throughout the state, so hopefully Channel 8 will continue to give the falcons press when warranted. And hopefully someone at News Channel 3 understand how important the other institutions are to the state.
You're right Dave, Albertus has played down to competition over the years. Hopefully they pull it out today.
St. Paul, your comments are always welcomed and respect. I agree with you with William Patterson, they always have a strong team. I haven't seen the only two teams play, but I know that Stevenson and Chris Newport are usually top of their conferences.
Quote from: pjunito on January 15, 2014, 12:06:08 PM
Quote from: ECSUalum on January 14, 2014, 10:36:31 PM
Quote from: pjunito on January 14, 2014, 10:13:56 PM
ECSU, Albertus has had a nice run so far. This team is much better than the previous years. I hope they are able to play well throughout conference play. They have a big match up versus SUNY Purchase and JWU the week of January 27.
Does Channel 3 or 6 give ECSU any love? They have a solid team again this year led by Salzillo (sp).. I believe he is from North Haven or somewhere down here. Not sure how Mitch Oliver let him go. Must be the difference in tuition. lol.
Thanks Punjito,
WTNH New Haven 8, and WTIC Fox 10 Hartford actually do a nice job giving other CT college/university teams, (besides UConn men and women's sports) some coverage, much more balanced. UNH and WCSU football has been covered nicely, AM, Quinnipiac, Yale basketball gets coverage, SCSU, and even ECSU baseball get some comment.
However...WFSB 3 Hartford is ridiculous, owners or high level guys must be UConn alums, 99.9% UConn coverage,(0.1% maybe for poor old CCSU), (and even with a poor UConn Football team ??? WFSB show the same UConn highlights some times 3 evenings/nights in a row. ::) I am also a UConn alum, (grad school), and as I say to some of my UConn friends, UConn just has to blow wind and Channel 3 will spend time covering it ??? It is almost absurd, I do not watch Joe Zone ??? and Channel 3 Sports anymore, its all 8, and 10!! Sorry for the rant!
ECSU, I appreciate the rant! We are such a small state; I would think we would have better coverage of all the colleges. D2 teams seem to get little coverage as well. I understand we are an Old person state and UConn is what most people root for (I don't, Go Red Storm) but there are too many good stories to not cover the D2 and D3 teams. I know the new AD at Albertus has connections throughout the state, so hopefully Channel 8 will continue to give the falcons press when warranted. And hopefully someone at News Channel 3 understand how important the other institutions are to the state.
but there are too many good stories to not cover the D2 and D3 teamsPerfectly stated :)
BTW best of luck to the Falcons, I think they will make some noise at the "show" this year
Ohhh Noooo PJ say it aint so??? Go Red Storm???? It cant be true???
Appreciate the comments towards the Falcons ECSU. I sure hope you are right about the Falcons making some noise this year in the big tourney if we are fortunate enough to make it there. Good luck to Eastern as well. One of the most respected and consistent teams in the state. Maybe one of these years will be able to schedule a nonconference game against each other. I know it would be a great matchup
Just a thought... a win over St. Joe's by Albertus Magnus won't carry as much weight as many think... but a loss to them will kill their chances in the Top 25 probably for the rest of the season.
Just the way it is Dave, and I agree that's very true. St joes is 6-6, don't see a win over them being anything special. I guess that's a thing that we now hold our falcons to that standard. Our core of Watson, and juco transfers Victor Ldujajah(?!), and pg Eian Davis is as good a 3 in the region, I am convinced. Larsen, Jennings, and Wilson no slouches either. We understand how we are looked at, no worries from us here, we'll let the play speak for themselves. Purchase matchup will tell us a lot
Guess that's a good thing *
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 15, 2014, 02:33:28 PM
Just a thought... a win over St. Joe's by Albertus Magnus won't carry as much weight as many think... but a loss to them will kill their chances in the Top 25 probably for the rest of the season.
Dave, I think we all understand now that the GNAC is a weak conference. A conference lost looks very bad regardless of the circumstance. No real big wins but a lot of bad losses. The top 25 is a fun thing to talk about, but I think all Albertus fans would prefer to see a nice run in the show.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 15, 2014, 01:02:17 PM
Ohhh Noooo PJ say it aint so??? Go Red Storm???? It cant be true???
Appreciate the comments towards the Falcons ECSU. I sure hope you are right about the Falcons making some noise this year in the big tourney if we are fortunate enough to make it there. Good luck to Eastern as well. One of the most respected and consistent teams in the state. Maybe one of these years will be able to schedule a nonconference game against each other. I know it would be a great matchup
Yea.. Red Storm Junkie..I know, I know, let the jokes begin. lol. ECSU, good luck to your team as well. They are solid and should be in contention for the little east title again. I remember the ECAC game a few years back, ECSU beat Albertus up in Willimantic. Great atmosphere and good game to watch. Hopefully, they can play in regular season. It would fun to watch those games.. would also bring our SOS up.
Albertus 100 Anna Maria 66.. Not much to say.. Wilson was back, but maybe not at 100%. Next game at home vs St. Joe's.
St. Joes may keep them competitive for a half or maybe even 30 minutes, but AMC should pull away at the end. Looking forward to that huge contest against Purchase in a few weeks.
Yea we know Dave thanks, jeeeez. Lol jk
7 going to be a great matchup, hopefully we both stay perfect in D3 til then!
I will say the albertus crowd, while big, needs to step it up a little. The student section was weak last night. I woulda had that crowd going 5 yrs ago if we were a top 25 team lol I mean I did before the days of Mitch Oliver. Little disappointed, but hopefully they show up as the season goes on
And it shouldn't be too hard to get going when your PG is throwing down alleys two mins into the game, as well as several other monster dunks along the way lol
Yeah us Falcon fans have come to grips with the fact that a conference loss pretty much seals our fate to play the host team of a pod (Willy P 09-10 or Alvernia last year) while winning all the games we should gets us the neutral game like up in Middlebury two years ago...obviously assuming we win the GNAC tournament.
Final Score : Rivier 57 - Emmanuel 69
The Saints finally played what I considered to be a smart game. They did not come out full court pressing Rivier, and therefore did not give up easy transition baskets and wide open threes. They packed in their defense into a 3 - 2 zone below the arc, took away driving opportunities, force Rivier into taking uncomfortable shots, and then rebounded the ball. For once, they did not try to run with every rebound and jack up quick shots. They walked the ball up the court and ran 15 - 20 seconds off the shot clock looking for a good shot. The result was a game in the high 50's instead of the high 80's, and a very nice road win. Not sure why it took 13 games and 10 losses to understand the Saints are not a pressing, running team.
Unfortunately, once again the final score of this game is not the big story for the Saints team. It appears that two more players have left the team, although I cannot be 100% sure because this time there was no public announcement. That would make it numbers 4 and 5 to leave the team so far this year, exactly the Saints average for yearly roster defections. Two players, one freshman guard and another junior college transfer, both of whom started a few games in the first semester have disappeared from the team. They are not in uniform for the games and are not sitting in a shirt and tie on the end of the bench like injured players would do. They just disappeared from the team. The strange thing is that their names still appear on the public roster but they have not been seen on the bench for the last four games. Is it possible that the SID has been ordered not to update the public roster for fear of more bad publicity? I have never heard of such a thing in D-3 basketball. In the past as soon as a player quit the Saints team they would immediately remove his name from the roster. I am sure about that because I have followed all the Saints roster changes for the past five years. Maybe the coach doesn't want any of the future recruits to see how many players keep leaving his program so quickly. What a mess this program has become. The only question remaining is will there be enough players left to finish the season? Will it end up like the Piedmont College situation from last year?
Quote from: pjunito on January 15, 2014, 09:34:35 PM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 15, 2014, 01:02:17 PM
Ohhh Noooo PJ say it aint so??? Go Red Storm???? It cant be true???
Appreciate the comments towards the Falcons ECSU. I sure hope you are right about the Falcons making some noise this year in the big tourney if we are fortunate enough to make it there. Good luck to Eastern as well. One of the most respected and consistent teams in the state. Maybe one of these years will be able to schedule a nonconference game against each other. I know it would be a great matchup
Yea.. Red Storm Junkie..I know, I know, let the jokes begin. lol. ECSU, good luck to your team as well. They are solid and should be in contention for the little east title again. I remember the ECAC game a few years back, ECSU beat Albertus up in Willimantic. Great atmosphere and good game to watch. Hopefully, they can play in regular season. It would fun to watch those games.. would also bring our SOS up.
Coach Geitner has upgraded his schedule this year with games vs Amherst, Catholic, North Central, and SUNY-Purchase! I agree a game with Albertus, ( perhaps in a early Tournament in NH), would be great and continue the improvement in schedule quality. Lets hope Coach reads this!!
I think as long as the Falcons stay healthy, a ticket to the show , to me, is a no brainer!!
I wish Western scheduled them again instead of creampuffs like Lesley & Western New England. What does beating Lesley by 30 points do you for?? Absolutely nothing, except give some end of bench guys some playing time, but since Western's rotation goes 10 or 11 deep anyways, what's the point of that?? Same with WNEC. Even though we'd likely lose @ AMC, I'd rather lose @ AMC this year than beat WNEC by 20 points, because you can judge your team off a top 25 caliber opponent and see how you stack up. You can't do that with Fitchburg State (1-12 now), Lesley (2-11), Worcester State (3-11) or WNEC (3-10), all OOC opponents for Western this season.
There is a lot of season left. They are playing well so far, so hopefully it keeps going. I think they should handle St. Joe's at home on Saturday.
GNAC, I agree, student section should be fired up. I think most Albertus fans remember the days of 8 players on a team.. Timmy Russell scoring 50 and Albertus losing by 12. lol. Hopefully, now that classes are back in session, there will be a good lively crowd.
7 and ESCU, you guys make great points. I would love for Albertus to play the Eastern schedule. Those losses, in my opinion, make a team tougher throughout the year. And if you win, should instill a confidence that last a long time. Especially when the conference is considered a weak one.
Saint, good win... sorry more guys are leaving. Sounds like a very disturbing situation. Keep us informed.
Pjunito, the student section at albertus has always been known to be rowdy and rambunctious, and some of Oliver's early teams fed off of it. Just seemed dead Wednesday.
7, this is the first yr I can't remember playing west conn. We always have seemed to play one another, and they were always great games. I remember getting Daquan Brooks angry in pregame warm ups back in 08 or 07. And he went off for about 30 or so and stared me down after every 3 lol as west conn won by 15. So those games were always fun. And if we added ECSU to that it'd be even better.
DaQuan Brooks was very close to coming to Albertus. He had gone to North Carolina or somewhere in the south for a while (for high school) but knew Byron Reeves (Half Court Shot Man). Bryon was trying hard to get DaQuan to Albertus. Mitch had him on campus and DaQuan played ball in the gym a lot. But, it came down to instate tuition.
GNAC, Could imagine Brooks with Askew in 2011-12?
Starting 5 would have been:
Brooks
Jackson
Watson
Askew
Lora
Pretty good. lol.
And the brooks beat down game, as I like to call it, was in Nov 2009. I just read box score.. Brooks had 39; scoring 12 out of the last 15 points for West Conn... WOW!
PJ, 39 sounds about right lol
1 vs 2 in the gnacs today. I know Dave mentioned how st joes won't be looked at as a significant win nationally, which I agree with, they did give Bowdoin (top 25 team) all they could handle earlier in the yr. almost pulled off the win. Somewhat of a nice measuring stick for albertus in this one
49-34 albertus at half. However starting pg Eian Davis went out with 6 mins left on a hard screen. Looks like his shoulder. He was having the best game of anyone on the court up until that point. Was basically unstoppable. Doesn't look like he'll be back so we will see
First time seeing Davis in person, and you guys weren't lying. Hope he comes back in for my viewing purposes haha. But up 15 if they don't need him the rest of the way, let him sit.
Lol he's no joke
54-44, albertus up as many as 16, but Davis hasn't returned and two starters on bench with 3 fouls. Vic and Larsen. Time for Watson to take over if amc wants to win
Albertus wins 86-78. Final score not indictive of game once again. Albertus was never in trouble and had a 17-18 point lead with about 3 to go. St joes didn't miss last two mins of game. Davis did not return and backup freshman PG Jackson played a great second half especially in locking meideros down. Watson must of read my previous post bc he took over lol. Albertus cruises in second half with basically their B unit on floor.
GNAC you were right about the crowd...Soft lol hopefully it's just because they know they should win so they're disinterested. Come tourney time I'll channel my inner college student and get down there with you haha...
By the way, when did we get that awesome PA announcer? When he started with "ROAMING CHARGES!" on Darius' opening 3 I lost it lol
Dave and GNAC, great seeing you guys at the game.. Sorry I only stayed 6 minutes... lol.
I think you guys hit it right on the head. Crowd is a little weak and Albertus was in control the entire game. Here is the scary part - Vic was outplayed and Davis only played 14 minutes and they were stilled in controlled. I think JWU matches up better against Albertus than St. Joe, however.
I did see a few things that concern me:
1. Jennings and Wiggins didn't shot the ball well at all.
2. Team seemed disorganized on offense
3. Team was lazy on defense
I want to see how they play against a better opponent for 40 minutes.
Now, Davis is the X factor. Without him, they are a different team. Next two games is at home against Rivier and Elms, two teams they should beat. I wouldn't mind Davis sitting for both, need him 100% for the rough stretch, which includes: at Lasell, vs Purchase, vs JWU, and At St. Joes.
Wow late night but finally home. As usual you guys did a great job of covering the details of the game. The Davis injury is scary but what was even scarier were some the points he was able to convert on early in the first half. Truly amazing to watch and his ability to drive and balance once leaving the floor is really spectacular. This would have been a blowout if he played normally the entire 2nd half, I have no doubts. Now with that being said IMO the injury didn't look to scary. He had ice on his shoulder in the beginning of the second but not for long. He did seem to favor it a bit but if I had to guess right now I think he will be fine.
I have to say guys I thought the crowd was pretty good today?? A lot of fans showed up to the game including a ton of former Albertus players but overall I thought they were solid. Obviously not the loudest I've heard but certainly better than the last game. As you mentioned I think the playoffs and going forward they will become more vocal and step it up.
PJ, Couldn't agree more with you on your concerns, only thing I will say is the disorganized offense I felt was because of Davis being out of the game. Tieron Jackson played extremely well and I thought he did an excellent job considering he is a freshman and we all know Coach Oliver runs a very involved offense with a number of different sets and plays. With that being said he still at times looked a little lost on offense not always knowing where the ball should be in some of there sets but I must say he really is a gifted passer and did an A+ job stepping in against a very well coached and experienced St Joes team.
Jennings and Wiggins struggles with the deep ball hurt but everybody has an off day and im not to worried about them. The defense was very lazy to say the least. I want to use the term "active hands" because St. Joes got so many little slips passes and dump offs that should have never occurred. St. Joes does an excellent job with moving the ball but I thought Albertus got a little lazy and it resulted in some easy buckets. We have all talked about the defense all year here and I think it really must improve.
Foul trouble hurt our bigs today as well but as mentioned Albertus was in control the entire game and succeeded with an entirely different starting five from the beginning to end of the game. On to the next one!!!!!
Dave, I was hardly channeling my inner college student yday lol, I woulda been tossed of I had when Larsen and Vic picked up bogus 3rd fouls while Jobin was able to push all day. But I think we may just have to do that lol
Junkie, I agree that the crowd was strong. There wasn't a seat in the house. I'm more talking about the student crowd I guess. They coulda played a factor but they are quiet, especially considering what the student section once was.
If anyone has news on Davis let me know lol he's by far my fav player on this team. And Jackson played GREAT as a freshman Ina big spot. That kid deserves some credit, although us homers have mentioned it already lol. But it's worth saying again
Definitely noticed the "active hands" thing junkie. So many points were off dribble drives and dump offs because the help over commits. Especially someone as big as Vic, you don't need to send every shot into the 8th row, just stay at home and put your arms up to alter the shot.
Final Score : Anna Maria 60 / Emmanuel 56
Another poor shooting performance for the Saints on their home court. The starting five accounted for only 29 of the 56 points. The Saints made only 19 field goals on 63 shots. So much for home court advantage. Once again, transition defense was the difference in the game. The Saints gave Anna Maria open driving lanes and failed to sprint back on defense to stop the progression of the ball into the lane. The really sad thing about this home loss was that it was a very winnable game. For once the Saints were not over matched, both teams had identical 3 - 10 records.
Who does the scheduling for the GNAC, it must have been the NHL? The Saints get one day off and then play Anna Maria again on Monday in an away game. Are they trying to create a rivalry? At least they won't have to prepare another scouting report. I bet the Saints will shoot better when they play away. There appears to be so much tension on their home court because of all the turmoil surrounding the program that the Saints just don't play well at home. They play very tentative at home, like they are afraid to make a mistake. They come out of the locker room at half time and play worse than they did at the start of the game. They only have 3 wins this year and all of them came on the road. They have lost all of their home games this year. When they go on the road, they appear to play much more relaxed and shoot the ball much better. We shall seoo tomorrow afternoon.
You guys do such a great job of covering the falcons.. I haven't heard anything yet about Davis, other than he was pretty sore.
Saint - The scheduling becomes a bit funky because there are more women teams than men teams in the GNAC. Also, all five states in New England are covered which cause crazy travel. I think they try to schedule all women games (each team plays each other only once); then fill in from there.
Anna Maria didn't look very impressive in New Haven on Wednesday. I would think Emmanuel shoots better on Monday and leaves Paxton with a win.
Interested to see if Davis plays today...
Jackson starting at the point...less than 4 minutes in and Jennings is already 0-3 from deep. He either needs to get out of this slump, or stop shooting. Against better teams his volume of misses is gonna HURT.
AMC up 31-26 at half. Real ragged first half for both teams, especially for the Falcons on O. No rhythm or consistency.
Couldn't make it to the game, sounds like a sluggish half
Final Score : Anna Maria 80 / Emmanuel 71
Most teams shoot better on their home court than they do when they play away games. Not the Saints. Against the exact same team on the away end of back to back games with Anna Maria, the Saints had one of their best shooting performances of the year. The made 44% of the field goals for the game along with 53% of their 3 point shots. They matched up very well with the AMCATS starting five and played a back and forth game throughout. A few missed defensive assignments in the second half was the difference in the game. The Saints could not get some key stops on critical possessions. Again, a very winnable game that slipped away at the end.
Whatever it is that makes them tentative and afraid to make a mistake at home is starting to be very noticeable. They don't shoot well or play well on their home court. They play like a demoralized team at home. As soon as they go away they appear much more relaxed and play a very competitive game. Home court is suppose to be an advantage, especially in shooting where depth perception and lighting are a familiar surrounding. They Saints appear to be much more comfortable on the road.
Dave, I was up top today.. missed ya at the game. You hit it right on the head for the first half.
Whatever Oliver said in the locker room worked. Falcons use a 16-1 run to pull away in the second half. Final score 73-52. No Davis meant no offensive flow. He was cheering pretty hard and looked like he could dribble. But, was icing pretty much all game. Most impressive part of the 16-1 run was that Watson had to leave because he had blood on his leg, Vic and Larson were on bench with fouls. on the court was Jackson, Jennings, Walker, Wiggins, and Gibbs. They played great defense, rebounded well, and Wiggins and Jennings made some shots. If they had better offensive players it would have been a 24-1 run, they had 3 turnovers and some bad possession during that stretch.
Let's see if Davis comes back for Wednesday's game vs Elms.
Albertus up to #20 in d3 poll.
You didn't see me because I wasn't there haha, I watched the first half while at work. Wish I watched the 2nd half instead!
The J&WU website allows you to watch the video of their games after they are played. Not all the schools do this. So I watched their game against St Joe and was very impressed with the number of different ways that J&W can score. Obviously transition is their best method, they can really finish at the rim. I was also surprised to see how well they shoot the 3 ball against the St Joe zone. Usually teams who are strong at attacking the basket are not a great outside shooting team but J&W doesn't hesitate to step into 3 point shots if the defense is packed in below the arc. Third way they score is by dribble penetration against the St Joe man defense. They are quick off the dribble and can really turn the corner off of ball screens. I thought that St Joe was a quality team who played a very unselfish game, moved the ball, and shot well from the perimeter and I was very impressed with the J&W victory. Every time St Joe tried to attack the basket they were met by a swarm of J&W defenders who played a very tight shell defense. J&W looked like a very well balanced team at both ends of the floor.
Saint, that is great to know... If we have a snow day tomorrow, I will watch the game between JWU and St. Joe's. I think I speak for GNAC and Dave when I say JWU always have long athletic players. Their coach loves to run and they play an aggressive style of defense. Not a press per say, but very active hands and quick feet to double key guys. They've also always had one guy who is their go to scorer (seems like it might be Greenway this year).
I just did some research - Looks like they have two guys who didn't play much until Conference play started - not sure if they transferred in or were hurt. Garrick and Touze. Touze is second on the team in scoring and leads the team in rebounds. He is 6-6 and probably very athletic. Shoots 71% from the field and hits enough free throws to rack up points. I would imagine he gets a lot of his points on putbacks and around the rim.
JWU plays 7 guys, this leads me to believe they play a lot of zone. Can't get key guys into foul trouble. They have this big man, 6-7 transfer from Franklin Pierce (D2 and former President), but his stats don't say much. He does start, but probably a scare tactic, try to make smaller teams stay away from paint.
Looks like Greenway, Touze, and Lewis are their big 3.
Hello guys, I haven't posted in a while but I do keep up with these post. This is by far the best Falcons offensive team I've seen. Albertus hasn't been strong defensively since the 1st championship year with Lora as a freshman and Reaves being a defensive Anchor, Alex Muniz and st.juste were fast, Askew erasing the boards both ways. No way Falcons team could defend the st.joes team that had Kelly and Obrien Petzy. Falcons would simply out score anybody. Gnac seems a bit down in talent. I like JWU scoring chances against Albertus but all bets are off if Albertus shooters get hot. Watson, wiggins, and Jennings are as good of shooters I've seen. I'm a couple of years dated thinking of the gnac when they had Lassell standout Jose Giton (butchered the spelling) Jermey Shannon, Lamont Thomas, bean and the older bro from Rivier and a bunch of great role players. If Albertus can defend as they did against Central, they are an elite 8 final 4 team. If they continue to let teams score at will with layups, 2nd round exit is evident again.
Quote from: FormerGNACplayer on January 22, 2014, 01:19:05 AM
Hello guys, I haven't posted in a while but I do keep up with these post. This is by far the best Falcons offensive team I've seen. Albertus hasn't been strong defensively since the 1st championship year with Lora as a freshman and Reaves being a defensive Anchor, Alex Muniz and st.juste were fast, Askew erasing the boards both ways. No way Falcons team could defend the st.joes team that had Kelly and Obrien Petzy. Falcons would simply out score anybody. Gnac seems a bit down in talent. I like JWU scoring chances against Albertus but all bets are off if Albertus shooters get hot. Watson, wiggins, and Jennings are as good of shooters I've seen. I'm a couple of years dated thinking of the gnac when they had Lassell standout Jose Giton (butchered the spelling) Jermey Shannon, Lamont Thomas, bean and the older bro from Rivier and a bunch of great role players. If Albertus can defend as they did against Central, they are an elite 8 final 4 team. If they continue to let teams score at will with layups, 2nd round exit is evident again.
really? they have the 320th most difficult schedule in D3 and their defense is ranked 253 according to Massey. Let's see how they do against Purchase.
Funny bc I was looking at old gnac posts yday and Charles is the same guy who was bitter about coach Oliver lol then disappeared. Nice karma rating there Charles. Yea can't wait for purchase. You bring up their D yet fail to leave out that Albertus' offense is ranked 5th nationally. Keep trolling bud we love it
Quote from: GnacBballFan on January 22, 2014, 10:23:49 AM
Funny bc I was looking at old gnac posts yday and Charles is the same guy who was bitter about coach Oliver lol then disappeared. Nice karma rating there Charles. Yea can't wait for purchase. You bring up their D yet fail to leave out that Albertus' offense is ranked 5th nationally. Keep trolling bud we love it
Coach Oliver has a nice program not sure what you're talking about. I know the program and have been to several games ove the years.
However, I'm not sure they are a final 4 team, I just think that their schedule is weak becasue of the league they play in.
http://talismanred.com/ratings/hoops/divisioniii.shtml
Folks, Charles can always be counted on to say what he thinks. He consistently gets lots of -k for it, but from my experience, his statistic are usually correct, even if tact isn't something he attempts.
If you read between the lines, he really is a pure D3 basketball fan.
Midd, I appreciate the honesty ty. I'll take it into consideration, Charles my bad.
Albertus played without preseason all American honorable mention Darius Watson. Not sure why hope he's ok. No Darius no problem 113-97 falcons
Yeah why didn't Darius play? Got me nervous haha hopefully PJ or Junkie can fill us in.
wow a little love from the GNAC board, thanks. ;D
Is Darius Watson hurt?
Nice win by the Falcons tonight over Elms 113-97. Hope Mr. Watson is OK!!
Us too! By the way, Jennings launched 10 more 3s and only hit 3 of them whereas Wiggins was 5 for 9...
Hello all, I have been so busy the last few weeks I am a little behind on my updates.
Nice win tonight for the Falcons against what I felt was a very underappreciated team in Elms. They are very athletic, fast and play an up-tempo style. I have no doubts that within a few years Coach Southall will turn this program into a contender year in and year out. He comes from a great program in WPI and has certainly brought over a ton of knowledge to this team. While they didn't execute particular well IMO there athleticism made up for some of there mistakes and they do a really good job of crashing the boards. Hats off to them.
Let me get to what appears to be the big question here on the thread (rightfully so for Falcon fans) and that is Darius Watson. Darius I think will be fine. He twisted his ankle last game against Rivier and actually missed a good portion of he 2nd half because of it. He seemed to be walking fine tonight in warmups and If I had to guess he might be back for Saturdays game. I think we all have to keep in mind that Purchase rolls into town Monday and I wouldn't be surprised if Coach Oliver decides to hold him out Saturday to make sure that he is fully ready for Mondays big game. I know Monday isn't a conference game and no doubt that a win Saturday is more important but while I have the utmost respect for Coach Galletta and a much improved Lasell team, I still feel they can get by in this game without Watson. The only thing that worries me is being on the road and I hate to say it but the referees LOL.
Eian Davis basically took over tonight knowing that he had to carry the load with Watson out. He was just electric, a couple of weird out of control turnovers but MY GOD he is unbelievable when it comes to getting to the hoop. Just an absolute blur. Vic played well too. Missed a couple bunnies but had his way with an undersized opponent.
Jennings struggled again to hit the deep ball but he continues to shoot and for me that is key. Keep on pulling James because we all know you are capable of going 6 for 6 next game from deep. Kyle Wiggins, All I can say is WOWWWW. Kid was on fire from deep. He really has one of the purest shots I think I have honestly ever seen. His release is so perfect and really the only time he struggles to make shots is when he doesn't get his legs under him.
Poor Lemar got absolutely SCREWED again with foul trouble tonight. The refs seem to have something against this kid. So many ticky tack fouls for him but overall I think he has played excellent, just not enough minutes because of the fouls.
Someone we haven't mentioned much here must be talked about tonight. Marcus Walker! He played an excellent game not just tonight but Monday as well. For me he is about the best post player I have seen come off the bench for any team this year. He is a tenacious rebounder and can really finish around the hoop. No doubt he would start on any other team in the GNAC. I love that he comes off the bench for us, just a smart experienced player who gets the job done.
I'm not going to get into the defense because I just don't have the strength in my fingers to type that much more for the rest of the night but it really has to step it up!! Some weird turnovers tonight too as a result of just lazy passes but overall the game was never really in doubt.
On to the next one!!!
Good news in regards to Darius. As long as there were no crutches or anything like that then I'd imagine he'll be ok. The little bit of the 2nd half I caught was just a blur. Up and down and up and down.
No Dave, there were no crutches which is always great news and as I mentioned, he really didn't have much of a limp while walking around during warm-ups. The entire game was a blur. Not much defense on either side and the pace was fast and furious which played right into Albertus hands as we all know.
Preview : Suffolk / Emmanuel
On paper this looks like a pretty even game. The Rams start 4 guards and one center, they are not real long or athletic, they will shoot a lot of 3 balls which will lead to long rebounds and opponents run outs. The Saints are not over matched in terms of size or foot speed, and for once they are not playing against senior leadership, the Rams have no seniors on the team. If the Saints stick with their most recent line up of two senior guards ( never know about that ) they should have the advantage in terms of court experience. Once again I would like to see the Saints play a tight zone, close down driving lanes, rebound the ball, and walk the ball up court and run some shot clock. I really hope the Saints don't come out full court pressing again and give the Rams all kinds of open looks. Looking forward to a fairly even game on Saturday.
Junkie.. You hit right on the head again! I ditto what you said, especially in regards to Jennings. He can't lose his confidence, he will need to make big shots when teams start trying to take away Davis penetration.
Good to have you back Former!!
Charles, I agree with what you mentioned regarding the SOS. It won't be great. Hopefully, JWU keeps winning. If Albertus plays well vs JWU (twice) and Purchase, it might help the SOS a little little little bit. Who knows.. Best part about the GNAC, win and you're in.
Watson hurt himself on Monday. He came out of the game with an apparent injury (actually Albertus made their run without him, Davis, or Vic).. I think he probably rolled it and it swelled up on him Tuesday morning. I think he will play; I think Watson is the type that wants to play every game. And I think Oliver wants his best player out there every game as well. I know there is a big regional match-up on Monday, but if Watson can play he will.
I think the bench is the best bench Oliver has had all year... I have a meeting, but will finish my thought when I get back.
I've said this time and again. Winning cures everything. You win the conference tourney and your in the NCAA tournament even if you finish the regular season 4-21. That's what makes basketball so great. But definitely the game vs. Purchase, and the 2(1??) remaining games against Johnson & Wales will help. I don't think the formula takes into account who the opposistion has beaten (it takes the SOS of it, however), but with every win in the LEC RIC gets, that win over them by J&W looks better and better.
I couldn't agree more 7. It comes down to the conference tournament. There is a lot of hype around the Purchase game, two top 20 teams playing each other. You should come down, if you can make it. I think the Purchase game will give Mitch Oliver a better idea of how they stack up with the rest of the region. The JWU game will be tough conference games and I believe those make you better (win or lose) because you have to really battle.
JWU has been a different team since that new player has been coming off the bench. (Toute, sp?)
Quote from: pjunito on January 23, 2014, 04:28:19 PM
I couldn't agree more 7. It comes down to the conference tournament. There is a lot of hype around the Purchase game, two top 20 teams playing each other. You should come down, if you can make it. I think the Purchase game will give Mitch Oliver a better idea of how they stack up with the rest of the region. The JWU game will be tough conference games and I believe those make you better (win or lose) because you have to really battle.
JWU has been a different team since that new player has been coming off the bench. (Toute, sp?)
I would love too, and normally I'd be able but I'm coaching a town rec basketball team, and we happen to have a game....that night......at 8 PM :(. The worst possible time, lol.
Kudos to JWU and Purchase but I don't think either are better than Central. Albertus played them tough and if it wasn't for Davis cramping up, they would've won after they took the lead. As long as they get up for big game as they did Central, I don't see anyone beating Albertus until the 3rd or 4th round. By the way, Albertus played WPI TOUGH in the scrimmage and that was without Jenningins
I heard they split with WPI, two separate halves. Any thruth to that?
OK everyone, we have been down this road before. Where we think Albertus is making a run to the finals. The best Albertus team over the last 5 year is the 2011-12 team that went 28-2, losing once at home on a last second lay-up to Medgar Evers and then in the 2nd round to Middlebury. The gnac was not very strong that year, Albertus went 18-0 and the best out of conference win was home vs West Conn. So, let's compare that team with this.
2011-12 2013-14
Center Lora Vic Adv Vic. He is more explosive and active around the rim, both ways
Forward Askew Larsen Adv Askey. Most rebound and points in Albertus history
Forward Watson Watson Adv Senior Watson – more mature, more determined, better player
Guard Dugas Jennings Adv Jennings – very close, but Dugas lost confidence after getting hurt , one thing we know about Jennings will never lose confidence, he is also more active defensively than Dugas
Guard Jackson Davis Adv Davis – Jackson didn't have to do much, not turn ball over and play solid defense, Davis is a difference maker. He is so skilled at getting to basket and quick hands.
Bench Smith Wiggins
Jimmy Eco Wilson
Larsen Walker
Sweeney Gibbs
Sanders Jackson
The bench for the 2011-12 falcon team played great defense. Jimmy Eco, Smith, and Sanders were great on the ball defenders. They usually came in and played with Askew who did all the scoring. They knew their role and did it great. They also rebounded very well. Larsen was tenacious around the basket, but got into a lot of foul trouble. Sweeney was limited with his knee problems and sometimes was a rebounding and defensive liability. However, he was able to hit a big jumper to keep other teams honest.
This year bench is a bunch of scorers. Lol. There isn't a lot of great defenders on this team, but they can find the rim. Wiggins is a legit outside threat, keeps team honest. Walker and Gibbs are big bodies, Walker much more polish as a JUCO transfer and Gibbs a freshmen. Jackson is a pass first back-up pg. He can handle the load, but still a freshmen. And Wilson is a slasher, very athletic, not afraid to take ball to rim. Can be reckless as times, but can also be a spark.
Advantage, this year bench. I know, I know, Defense wins championships... But, the bench here is so versatile. They are also very long and athletic, they can cause teams to take difficult shots and can press as well.
Thoughts?
I really wish Western had played a home-and-home with Albertus in 2011-12. I think the season before that, Western won by 3 or 4 in Danbury in a very high scoring contest where Askew put up like 50 points. Western was never in the game after the opening tip that year, I would've liked to see it again @ Western or even on a neutral court.
I'm gonna go in order here,
First off, pleasure having you here FormerGNAC, I am a new poster as well and you obviously bring a ton of knowledge and know the teams just as well if not more than all of us seeing as you played beside them. I also hope your prediction of a possible Elite 8 or Final 4 appearance for the Falcons is correct LOL, that would just be an awesome feat.
GNAC I heard WPI and Albertus played a similar format to what you mentioned but if the game was played as a whole Albertus would have been victorious. They did split but it was somewhat lopsided because a number of bench players played in the "second game" or "second half" which ever way you want to look at it) and that was won by WPI but with projected starters on the court Albertus had the upper hand and won convincingly. Again that's just what I heard, don't know the 100% truth behind it so please don't hold it against me if other details emerge.
PJ, Great breakdown as usual and I can honestly say that I agree with literally every word you said. This team is far superior in almost all aspect and we keep talking about defense but for me I can really see this team bearing down when needing to and playing a defenses game that is much more respectable. I think we just may see that Monday night.
Just one quick thought and it sort of just hit me as I was posting and I'm not sure if anyone else thought about this but last nights games was a picture perfect glimpse into next years starting 5 and a number of role players who will be coming back hopefully. Without Watson, that was it and I must say I was very impressed. Not to mention the recruits that Oliver might be able to pull in for next years squad. The way he is able to land JUCO talent now you almost feel like he can just reload every single season without missing a beat. The guy is just a recruiting nut and he really understands how to draw in talent. Not to mention a possible deep run in the tournament this year, that can only help with recruiting. We cant forget about Julian Sanders as well who from what I have heard will be coming back next year after a disappointing ACL tear in earlier in the season.
Just a thought but as we saw last night I would imagine Davis, Jennings, Wilson, Larsen and Vic will be the starting 5. Again this all depends on how well Julian is able to recover because he can easily start or if Oliver would like to go a little bigger and start Larsen, Vic and Walker up front which I tend to lean to now after seeing the way walker has been playing the last few games. Kids legit!
Any thoughts??
Tell me about it 7, we all really enjoyed that in state rivalry just beginning to form between Western and Albertus. Western being the well established almost premier D3 team in the state while Albertus was sort of the up and comer who is trying to duplicate the success of the cross state rival. Just had a really nice ring to it.
Very similar to what I believe all of us here in the state of CT at the D1 level will start to see from Fairfield and Quinnipiac since Quinnipiac made the move to the MAAC.
Quote from: 7express on January 23, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
I really wish Western had played a home-and-home with Albertus in 2011-12. I think the season before that, Western won by 3 or 4 in Danbury in a very high scoring contest where Askew put up like 50 points. Western was never in the game after the opening tip that year, I would've liked to see it again @ Western or even on a neutral court.
7, Albertus did play Western in 2011-12, Albertus won in New Haven by almost 20. I remember talking to GNAC after the game; we always use the Western game as a barometer on how good Albertus will be. Albertus started the 2012-13 season at Western with a win. Back to back win.. finally after years of losing to Western. lol.
The only in-state team Albertus played was Mitchell. I know Oliver likes to play in state teams, but not sure why none were scheduled.
Quote from: pjunito on January 23, 2014, 11:22:31 PM
Quote from: 7express on January 23, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
I really wish Western had played a home-and-home with Albertus in 2011-12. I think the season before that, Western won by 3 or 4 in Danbury in a very high scoring contest where Askew put up like 50 points. Western was never in the game after the opening tip that year, I would've liked to see it again @ Western or even on a neutral court.
7, Albertus did play Western in 2011-12, Albertus won in New Haven by almost 20. I remember talking to GNAC after the game; we always use the Western game as a barometer on how good Albertus will be. Albertus started the 2012-13 season at Western with a win. Back to back win.. finally after years of losing to Western. lol.
The only in-state team Albertus played was Mitchell. I know Oliver likes to play in state teams, but not sure why none were scheduled.
Purchase may as well be a CT school anyways, since it's like less than a mile across the border.
Quote from: 7express on January 23, 2014, 11:44:18 PM
Quote from: pjunito on January 23, 2014, 11:22:31 PM
Quote from: 7express on January 23, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
I really wish Western had played a home-and-home with Albertus in 2011-12. I think the season before that, Western won by 3 or 4 in Danbury in a very high scoring contest where Askew put up like 50 points. Western was never in the game after the opening tip that year, I would've liked to see it again @ Western or even on a neutral court.
7, Albertus did play Western in 2011-12, Albertus won in New Haven by almost 20. I remember talking to GNAC after the game; we always use the Western game as a barometer on how good Albertus will be. Albertus started the 2012-13 season at Western with a win. Back to back win.. finally after years of losing to Western. lol.
The only in-state team Albertus played was Mitchell. I know Oliver likes to play in state teams, but not sure why none were scheduled.
Purchase may as well be a CT school anyways, since it's like less than a mile across the border.
You're right.. I would be surprise if they don't bring a good number of fans.
More exposure!
http://foxct.com/2014/01/23/oliver-leading-albertus-magnus-on-another-strong-season/ (http://foxct.com/2014/01/23/oliver-leading-albertus-magnus-on-another-strong-season/)
And now seeing it in the video (saw it on the AMC feed live), I have no idea why Eian got T'd up on that alley...unless he slaps the backboard with his right hand. Then I could possibly understand! Also curious as to how that scrimmage against ASA turned out last season. Besides Davis and Vic they had another kid (Daquan Brickhouse) who ended up at Coppin State.
Quote from: lildave678 on January 24, 2014, 09:17:28 AM
More exposure!
http://foxct.com/2014/01/23/oliver-leading-albertus-magnus-on-another-strong-season/ (http://foxct.com/2014/01/23/oliver-leading-albertus-magnus-on-another-strong-season/)
And now seeing it in the video (saw it on the AMC feed live), I have no idea why Eian got T'd up on that alley...unless he slaps the backboard with his right hand. Then I could possibly understand! Also curious as to how that scrimmage against ASA turned out last season. Besides Davis and Vic they had another kid (Daquan Brickhouse) who ended up at Coppin State.
He Lil Dave,
Albertus did not fair well... I'll leave it at that. (But, if the end result was a starting pg and c, then I guess we won).
Can't say I'm surprised haha
Does anybody else have a weird feeling about tomorrow? I don't want to say I'm nervous but the word "trap" comes to mind. Been thinking about the matchup and Lasell could definitely be that team that catches you by surprise. Especially in Newton Mass.
Only bringing it up because of what happened two years ago before Askew decided to put the team on his back and score what I think was 50+
This years Albertus team is far superior, but still you just never really know.
Is anyone planning on riding up to the game or at least watching online? If so a half time update here on the board would be much appreciated only because I wont be able to see or watch any of it.
I got ya junkie, I'll update you, I plan on watching online. And yes lasells coach always seems to give us fits with the D he decides to run. And this team is improved. But, and pjunito said this about lasell last week too just like you, we are still albertus and I think that gets us by. But can't deny that I'm right there with you
You da man GNAC!!! Much appreciated
just waiting on the link to load, and no problem! think the girls game prob lasted a little bit longer then expected
This is a big week for Albertus...
AT lasell today
Mon - home vs Purchase
Wed - home vs JWU
Sat - at St. Joes.
This is the week....
Video not ready, girls game was on just fine. I think it is pre-game and they will load it right before tip...
Saint.. Good win by the Emmanuel today, I know you will have a write up for us. I didn't think they could win at Suffolk. But, good job for those kids.
17-9 bertus!
fast paced game! right into albertus hand! 23-15 falcons!
26-20 track meet. 11:00 left
26-20 Albertus with 11 mins left in first half.
Lasell three point shooting is keeping them in it.
Watson did start, is moving and playing well.
39 points with 7 minutes to go in the half... Absurd lol
39-29 with 7 left..
Sick pass by Watson.. Bench is playing well.
45-33 albertus doing everything right
3 mins left.. I have to see how many 3s Lasell has made.
59-41 albertus. best offensive half of the yr, moving the ball better then ever
59-41 at the Half.. Davis was excellent, so was Vic and Watson and Wiggins had a few big threes..
Davis blocked a shot at the half and started favoring his shoulder.. Hope he is ok.
You guys are the best!!! Sounds like they playin well
I couldn't find stats, but Lasell must have hit 7 or 8 three pointers.. That is keeping them in the game. Every shot in the paint is contested, making it difficult for them to make anything outside of a three. The Albertus offense is on fire, they score inside, mid range, outside... just a clinic.
62-46, 18 mins left.. Oliver calls a timeout.. He wasn't happy, lazy pass leads to a turnover and they were out hustled for a lay up.
sloppy second half for amc. 66-55
76-59 Albertus
this kid wiggins is unreal lately. 76-59, I'm not sure he's missed from downtown
12 mins left in 2nd half.. Lasell running their offense much better, pulled within 11. However, Darius Watson made 3 consecutive shots and now lead is back to 17
84-74 with 7 left
lasell isn't missing, 86-78
93-81 under 4 left
98-89, 1 min left, albertus at line.
99-91 34 seconds left albertus up
101-91 final..
Albertus was outhustled to every loose ball in second half. They had enough davis, Watson, and vic on offense to win and made a few key stops within 4 mins left. But, were outplayed in second half..
Nevertheless, Albertus gets a road conference win.
SUNY Purchase wins also, they were at home vs St. Joes LI and won by 5, 68-63.
The #14 ranked purchase comes to New Haven undefeated to play the #20 falcons on Monday night.
Can't wait!
Great updates today boys. Don't know what I would've done without all of ya LOL. It looks like it was the tale of two halfs but as pj mentioned a win is a win.
SUNY Purchase on Monday night. The last two games for Purchase have been very close score wise against inferior teams. This leads me to believe that they may not be playing their best basketball right now but who knows. I havent seen them play so I dont want to pass judgment. Having the game in New Haven is a HUGE adavantage as well. This game is going to be awesome!!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 25, 2014, 11:02:14 PM
Great updates today boys. Don't know what I would've done without all of ya LOL. It looks like it was the tale of two halfs but as pj mentioned a win is a win.
SUNY Purchase on Monday night. The last two games for Purchase have been very close score wise against inferior teams. This leads me to believe that they may not be playing their best basketball right now but who knows. I havent seen them play so I dont want to pass judgment. Having the game in New Haven is a HUGE adavantage as well. This game is going to be awesome!!
I saw them for about 15 minutes against Eastern Connecticut the opening week. Granted, that was the second day of the season, and Albertus is no Eastern, but Purchase beat them up pretty bad from what I saw. The final score doesn't indicate it, but I think Purchase was up by 15 or so with about 7 or 8 minutes to play in the game.
Quote from: 7express on January 25, 2014, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 25, 2014, 11:02:14 PM
Great updates today boys. Don't know what I would've done without all of ya LOL. It looks like it was the tale of two halfs but as pj mentioned a win is a win.
SUNY Purchase on Monday night. The last two games for Purchase have been very close score wise against inferior teams. This leads me to believe that they may not be playing their best basketball right now but who knows. I havent seen them play so I dont want to pass judgment. Having the game in New Haven is a HUGE adavantage as well. This game is going to be awesome!!
I saw them for about 15 minutes against Eastern Connecticut the opening week. Granted, that was the second day of the season, and Albertus is no Eastern, but Purchase beat them up pretty bad from what I saw. The final score doesn't indicate it, but I think Purchase was up by 15 or so with about 7 or 8 minutes to play in the game.
7, I was just reading the box score.. you are right, early in the year but the 7 footer Narni didn't play. They had a freshmen score 21, he hasn't played more than 10 minutes in any of the last 4 games. Purchase is a team that is playing 6 deep right now, running everything through Dixon and Narni. They have a pg who doesn't take a lot of shots, but doesn't have a lot of assist either. And they have a senior forward who is a beast on the glass, avg 10 boards a game. They play a zone and are long.
Should be a good one in New Haven.
No problem junkie!
Me and pj were watching purchase online against Sage, they are long and seemed to be playing a 2-3 the whole game. This game is gonna be fun. As far as yday, and I know were such homers here lol, but it's almost as if after the first half and being up 17 albertus got bored. Sounds stupid, but the only time they played with urgency is when it would get to 8 or 9 points the lead, then they kicked it up. We'll see. I think wiggins will be key Monday if purchase is in a 2-3. Kid is on fire!
Final Score : Suffolk 88 / Emmanuel 94
I had a feeling that this would be a pretty even game in terms of size and foot speed and it turned out to be just that. For once the Saints were not overmatched either in the paint or on the perimeter. Once again, playing away from home the Saints shot much better, 49% for the game. Very strange game plan for the Saints. Again they started out in their full court man press giving up easy transition baskets and wide open 3 point shots to the Rams. The Saints are just not a good man to man defensive team. Not sure why the coach is being so stubborn about that, after 16 games that is not a hard concept to understand. They gave up 51 points in the first half to Suffolk. The Rams kept running their 1 - 4 high post offense with the UCLA shuffle cut and the on ball screen opening easy driving lanes and wide open jump shots. This set gave the Saints man defense fits all through the first half. Finally, after they were down 15 points in the second half the Saints stopped pressing and switched to a 3 - 2 zone and went on a 24 - 5 run to take a 4 point lead with less than 1 minute remaining. They made their foul shots and got out of there with a nice win. The team looks loose and relaxed when they are not playing at home. Once they stop giving up driving lanes and wide open threes they look like a college level team. Don't understand why they keep returning to that full court man press to start every game.
Albertus has a little blurp on the website about tommorows big Top 25 contest. From what Im hearing it is going to be an absolute packed house as well which will be great. This may be that game gentleman that not only shows how good the Falcons are but also may really jump start the home crowd and propel this team for the remainder of the season. What a confidence booster this would be.
At home I think the 2-3 zone defense played by Purchase is going to work in Albertus favor because of there ability to hit shots from the outside and Eian Davis unbeliavble abilty to get to the whole. I also like there chances because whoever we have flash to the free throwline area (soft spot of the zone) or the baseline whether it be Vic, Lemar or Darius, they are all more than capable of knocking down that little jumper.
Less than 24 hours. I cant wait till tip off. Anyone gonna do a preveiw? Interested in others thoughts. Also GNAC, I know youve done it before so maybe another reachout to the NH Register is in order. If there isnt a little something in the paper tommorow morning I'm giving up on them LOL
This is Albertus' tougest week of the season with home games vs Purchase, J&W, and a road game on Saturday to St. Joseph's-Maine. If they go 3-0 they'll probably be a top 15 team, or at least should be. Looking forward to it. Everyone's talking up the Purchase game rightfully so, but the J&W game might be better considering it's a conference game.
I completely agree 7, JWU is just as important, if not more important, since if Albertus wins, it gives them a 2 game edge in the conference. That is key, having home court, not having to travel and playing in a familiar gym. Plus avoiding JWU or ST. Joe until the championship game...
But, from a fan's standpoint, the Albertus/Purchase game is the biggest regular season game Albertus has ever played in. We are all excited, sorry you can't make it. Hopefully your team has a solid practice 7!
Junkie, if they don't have anything tomorrow in that paper they will get an earful from me! Lol! I think pj always does some great previews and seems to know purchase a little better then me. So I'll let him have at it. I am excited for this one! We will get a good understanding of how good we are tomorrow night. But I agree with 7, jwu game is gonna be tough. They are hitting on all cylinders right now, can't wait for tomorrow!
The last time I did a preview for a game was last spring before the Alvernia game.. I think all falcons fans remember that. lol.
So, take everything I say with a grain of salt..
First, let's look at SUNY Purchase - they beat East Conn early this year in Willimantic. They did not have the big man, Neri playing in that game. They got 24 from Singleton, who is no longer on the roster.. So, they are a different team now.
Starters:
03 Nixon - 6'3 guard, SR 19 pts, 6 rebs,
12 Pearson - 6-4 guard, JR 8 pts, 6 rebs
14 Haughton - 6-6 forward SR 8 pts, 10 rebs
25 Lobban - 6-7 forward SR 5 pts, 4 rebs
33 Neri, 7-2 (yes 7-2), Center 15 pts, 8 rebs
Key Reserves:
04 Sillaro - 6-5 F JR 6 pts, 3 rebs
10 Mickens - 6-4 G FR 9 pts, 3 rebs
This team wants to play in the 60s, they are strong defensively. They are also very experienced. They are long and play a 2-3 zone. They don't block a lot of shots, only 69 on the year, but avg 43 rebounds a game which tells me they contest every shot and make you work on offense. The most points they gave up in a game this year was 90 (and that was a double overtime game), besides that game, 78. So, this team plays strong solid defense. Offensively, they must get a lot of easy putbacks or one on one play, they have one guy who averages more than 3 assist per game. They average 80 pts a game and shoot from the field at a 44% clip and 33% from threes. Over the last few games Mickens minutes have been reduce, not sure if he is hurt or just lost confidence. It looks like it has been a short bench for Purchase.
Albertus
Davis, Vic, and Watson all average over 16 a game. They like to share the ball as they avg 16 assist a game. They also like to push tempo. The want to play in the high 80's.. They believe no one in the conference can score with them. Albertus is avg 91 points a game, shooting 50% from the field and 38% from long range. They've only score under 80 twice this season (77 and 73, both wins). They are also doing it at times on defense, they have 90 blocks this year and average 42 rebounds. Over the last few games, Oliver has gotten a lot of production from Wilson, Wiggins, and Walker. This allows him to rest key starters.
Soo... This is Seattle/Denver...
One time wants to keep the score low the other wants to run up the points... Whoever wins that battle I think wins the game.
Usually Albertus tries to start the first 5 minutes with a lot of long range jumpers... I think you will see a lot of attacking the first few minutes. I think they want to get the big guys (Neri and Haughton) off the floor for the first half and force Nixon into taking bad shots and force Purchase into a jump shooting team. All of their starters are shooting over 41%, the bigs are shooting over 50%. They must be getting a lot of looks within 5 feet. If Purchase can slow down Albertus and the game and control the boards.. The Falcons will be in trouble.
A good test for both teams..
As usual great preveiw PJ. Time to get the prediction machine goin. I will start it off. After hearing PJs take, and doing some research on both teams offense and defense unbiasedly im taking the Falcons at home 84 to 76. Just feel there a far better shooting team and can without doubt hold there own on the boards because lets face it CCSU had much more overall size and we did well there. Vic is going to step up and have a big game and Wiggins will be key. I also think James Jennings is goin to recapture his touch against the zone. The kid is fearless and he's a big-time performer. LETS GOOOOOOOO!!!
Quote from: pjunito on January 26, 2014, 09:15:39 PM
I completely agree 7, JWU is just as important, if not more important, since if Albertus wins, it gives them a 2 game edge in the conference. That is key, having home court, not having to travel and playing in a familiar gym. Plus avoiding JWU or ST. Joe until the championship game...
But, from a fan's standpoint, the Albertus/Purchase game is the biggest regular season game Albertus has ever played in. We are all excited, sorry you can't make it. Hopefully your team has a solid practice 7!
Thanks. I'll try to get up there Wednesday night for the J&W game. Do you know if it's a doubleheader with the women's team that day or just a single game on the men's side??
As I said yesterday, comparing Eastern to Albertus is like comparing apples to oranges and those 2 teams are completely different now then they were back on November 15 or whatever that game was. Purchase has the big 7 footer playing a major role when he had virtually no minutes that game. They got 12 points off the bench from Singleton who is no longer with the team, and 21 points from Mickens who comes off the bench now. Meanwhile, Eastern had freshmen Hugh Lindo playing in only his second career game and even though he grabbed 10 boards only scored 4 points, and the other big guy (Brandon Yarborough) didn't play in that game, and Eastern is one of the better teams in the Northeast. That 68-62 Purchase win could be completely reversed if those same teams played tomorrow, but have to give credit for beating Eastern up at home in a place where not a lot of teams win. It's not the Murray Center @ RIC, but it's pretty tough for opponents. But I'll take Albertus by a score of 74-68.
Btw, as a sneak peak to anyone who reads the posters poll on the national board. I have Purchase at #15 and Albertus at #17 this week. If Albertus sweeps this weekend, Albertus will go to at least #15 on my board next week, and possibly even higher depending on who else loses. Albertus may not go that high with the national voters, but they should take a significant jump none-the-less I would assume.
It's a single game at home on Wednesday for the men 7. The Lady Falcons host JWU the following day at 7 o'clock in New Haven
BIG GAME TONIGHT FOR ALBERTUS and THE GNAC!!!
I'll be watching this one from home. Definitely wanted to go, but if I want to attend multiple games come GNAC/NCAA Tourney time (especially since there'll be travel with the NCAAs) I need to save up those "Go ahead"s from the girlfriend haha. I'll chime in here with thoughts during the game!
Dave. Your killin me. Just tell her your going out to get a gallon of milk LOL. That was my Fathers old trick when he wanted some "me" time at the local watering hole. Its gonna be a great one. Enjoy the game.
P.S. My Father always came home with the gallon!!
Also, the New Haven Register is an absolute joke. I'm seriously considering canceling my subscription. The lack of coverage for not just Albertus but all Division III schools is a joke and I really don't understand it.
GNAC thats your cue LOL. Go get em!!!
Haha I absolutely would if I didn't live 45 minutes away now!
Oh that's tough Dave. Yeah you better sit this one out. Don't want to be in the doghouse for later in the season. Enjoy!!
Always came home with the milk! Love it lol
Going to email the register now, and I send them this thread about possible cancellations to subscriptions! I'm sure they'll love that! Lol
Ok last yr against alvernia I told pj that I wasn't too high on our falcons as I was in previous yrs. I really thought we were gonna lose solidly to alvernia and unfortunately it was one of the few times I was right on a prediction lol. This yrs team is unreal, 3 legit stars. Anything can happen in one night foul trouble etc, but I'm gonna be a homer and go albertus wins 85-80. But I actually believe it. Let's go falcons!
Guys, I can honestly say that GNAC never looks at these games with rosey eye glasses. I was riding the falcon wave last year, talking about how we will dominate Alvernia.. I took it HPLC style (inside joke with Richard Stockon) and broke down every aspect of the match-up. GNAC said, I have a bad feeling about that match-up. So, what he types is accurate...
I will go 89-81 Albertus. I just think Albertus has to many scoring options. Also, I think Davis and Watson will really be up for the game and give a lot of energy to the role players... Digger Phelps always say, role players are worth 5-6 points more than their average at home. Albertus defense has been horrible the last month, I think Purchase scores a lot of easy buckets, however, Albertus makes enough stops late in second half to pull out the victory.
Darius forcing the issue because his shots not falling. Jennings starts out hot and picks up a dumb second foul... As I'm typing Darius hits one lol
Going 0-for at the line ain't gonna cut it lol
AMC takes a 42-31 lead into half. Darius shot his way out of it rather quickly haha hitting 3 in a row to end the frame. GNAC if I was down there with you I'da been heckling the coach to get out of that zone fast. Saw he did so on that last possession. As long as Vic stops launching 3s (I know he can hit them, just not tonight, especially against a zone with a 7'2 guy to clean up all his misses) we'll be alright.
I'm not sure how you guys feel...I KNOW we can shoot ourselves out of slumps (like Darius did the first half), but to start a half if stuffs not falling slooowwww down. Use some clock and get a good shot. Couple quick shots this half and they're right back in it now only down 5.
5-14 from the line by my count...
Good thing I had a 6 pack...which is now a 0 pack for this game haha. Freaking mid season out of conference game I'm losing my mind. Hopefully you guys can shed some more light on the game. The pre-game T, and did Mitch get T'd up (to stop a fast break I might add? haha) in particular?
Lil dave, what a game! I think this game tells us about the 2013-14 Falcons....I won't go crazy with box score, but I'll point out some things...
1. Jennings got a T for a uniform violation before the game began.
2. Mitch could have had a few T, but so could have the Purchase coach, who the crowd called sweater vest.
3. Dixon is a good player, he was yapping with the falcon freaks all night.
4. Eian Davis is the fastest guard in the region, maybe nation.. He completely took over the game in first half and down the stretch in second.
5. Purchase couldn't shoot from the outside, really went cold at the end of the game.
6. Albertus played great defense the first 10 minutes of the game, but couldn't hit any open jumpers.
7. Vic and Watson probably had their worst offensive games and Albertus still scored 87.
8. The 7'2 foot Neri is learning the game but had an amazing offensive game, he worked the glass with a soft touch. He is a monster.
PJ, it was for the undershirt? He's been wearing it all season...or was it like, not white or something tonight? And as much as we'll enjoy the win (for a night, as they prepare for JWU) 11-23 from the line is gonna get us bounced from the NCAAs. Honestly surprised we won by 8 finally seeing the final free throw numbers...
I didn't realize the Nixon kid had 38.. damn.. he had 7 threes.. He wanted the game, they just have no one else who can make an outside shot. Yes, free throws killed... they shot under 50%.. They need to clean that up.. Wiggins and Watson had off shooting nights..
Yea, same sweatshirts.The Purchase coach said he needs to take that off. The refs waited until he came on court and whistle blew..
10 minutes left, Albertus down 4.. and they won the game. Good opponent. I like how they fought. They needed a win like that...
Big game versus JWU however.. I am going to look at some stats.. I think JWU is a better scoring team than Purchase but not a better defensive team.
yeah I can definitely see a 90-80ish game. I think JWU will be more athletic offensively, but they won't have the presence of Neri both defensively and offensively. If Vic gets held to single digits against JWU I'd be surprised.
Haven't seen J&W yet this season, but I think PJ is right. Probably better offensively, but also worse defensively than Purchase. Even with Lamonte Thomas there, there were more a team geared towards the offensive end of the floor and less on the defensive end of the floor. A score for Albertus in the high 70's or 80's should be enough to get them the W. J&W can score, I don't they can match the Falcons if they get to 80+, however.
Nice win for them tonight! Hopefully they don't sleepwalk, these next 2 opponents (J&W Wednesday and at St. Joes on Saturday) are equally as, if not more important then the Purchase game since these games count towards the GNAC.
What an outstanding game. I'm not to run through stats or anything of that nature because you guys have already covered enough. Just a tremendous win in an electrifying atmosphere. No other way to put it really. Albertus during the game moved up to number 16 in the national pulls while purchase moved up to number 13 making this an even more impressive win. Well done Falcons. Now we just have to stay up for Wednesday's game against JWU. Thank God it's at home. If this one was on the road following this win tonight I would've been a little bit more nervous.
Also, John Pearson was there from news Channel 8. Set your DVRs or just stay up and watch the news at 11 I'm sure there will be a little piece on them.
Wow what a game tonight!!! Awesome atmosphere, awesome game. Me and pj got Dixon to yap at us in the beginning of the second half, and let's just say he went Reggie miller on us after that lol. Started going off. But alas we prevail 87-79(I wanted my 85-80 prediction to come true but let me not be greedy lol). I think the star of this game, if I had to choose one, was Davis. The kid is unstoppable. But everyone played great. Our D showed they turn it up when they want too. Albertus could have won this game by 20, but bad free throw shooting and some missed opportunities to put the game away prevented that. Hats off to purchase they are a solid team, but the better team won imo. 4 technicals? Woof. Sky is the limit at this point, big game two more days, keep it rolling!
Also Jennings played 3-4 mins in first half or our lead might have been 15-20. In fact it was 41-26(I believe) and we had a 3 rim in and out, and think if that drops purchase maybe doesn't make this a close game in second half
Final Score : MIT 70 / Emmanuel 46
Last night's game was a contest of polar opposites, MIT 12 - 4 vs Emmanuel 4 - 12. Another poor shooting performance for the Saints on their home court going 18 - 55 from the field. MIT used a 24 - 6 run midway through the first half to put this game away early. The second half was played just to determine the final score. The Saints played without passion or energy in the second half and never put a scare into the Engineers who were able to substitute freely most of the game. At least the Saints did not open up in their legendary full court man press, they had enough sense to pack in their defense into a tight 2-3 zone. The sharp passing and quick ball reversals by MIT was impressive. The Saints looked completely overmatched in this game.
Saint..
MIT has been a strong program for a few years now.. I am surprised by the final score.. I would have thought that the Saints would have played with more passion and heart. Seems like they gave up in the second half. I know MIT is solid defensively and excuse their offense very well, but I would have expected a better effort last night.
http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cb2014&sub=11620 (http://www.masseyratings.com/rate.php?s=cb2014&sub=11620)
Albertus up to 20th in the Massey after last night's win...
Correction, I just found out..The Technical at the beginning of the game was for dunking in the lay-up line... Jennings would have received a technical if he didn't remove his undershirt.
Preview J & W / AMC
I would like to wish good luck to the supports of both teams for this game. I hope you enjoy the game. I have seen both teams play twice this year once live and once on video and I have been very impressed with both teams. Both teams field very long, athletic players who can rebound, score, and defend. They both like to push the ball up the floor and will also step back and shoot the 3 ball. Should be a real good game. It will be very interesting to see if both teams play man to man defense, or, after scouting each other they both decide to slow the other team down by playing a zone. I don't think that will happen. I believe that both teams have too much respect for the other team to sit back in a zone. The key players on both teams need to be guarded man to man.
It is possible that both starting five groups may neutralize each other and the game could be decided by the bench players. I think that Garrick, Touze, Walker, and Wiggins, are all quality players who could start for any other GNAC teams. The contributions off the bench could be a significant factor in this game. I hope the game is well played and well officiated. Good Luck.
Big game at Albertus tonight. What's the scouting report on JWU? Anyone going to the game?
Welcome to the boards Albertus... Saint did a good job of giving a preview.. He also watched JWu a few times already so he has a better feel of the team than me. But, here I go...
Johnson and Wales comes into New Haven tonight; a battle for first place. Albertus is 10-0 and JWU 9-1.
Here is a look at the match-up:
Johnson and Wales has last year rookie of the year in Greenway, an athletic guard who is averaging 20 points a game. JWU has balance scoring: they have 5 guys who average over 10 points a game.
Starters:
G – #22 Lewis 6-1 So. - 14 pts, 6 rebs, 3 ast
G – #15 Greenway 6-3 So. - 20 pts, 8 reb, 3 ast
G – #4 Lucas 5-10 Sr. – 11 pts, 4 reb, 1 ast
F - #3 Robinson 6-5 Jr. – 6 pts, 3 reb, 2 ast
F - # 23 Barboza 6-7 Sr. – 6 pts, 3 reb
Key Reserves:
#12 Garrick 6-4 guard So. – 11 pts, 5 reb
#24 Touze 6-6 Forward Sr. – 16 pts, 10 reb
JWU averages 79 pts a game, 41 rebounds, and 14 assist. They are not deep, so they play a zone to try to stay out of foul trouble. But, they play the zone well; they are long and have good athletes. They have good ball handlers and run their offense through their guards. Both starting forwards average a combine 12 pts and 6 rebounds.. This tells me there is a lot of pick and rolls and set plays for guards. Starting forwards don't crash the boards. Lucas has 5 offensive rebounds and Barboza 7 in conference play.. yes, that is combined 12 rebounds in 10 conference games from your starting front court.
JWU shoots the ball well, 48% from the field this year, but only 35% from long range. They work the mid game well and get easy hoops in transition. Greenway, Lewis, and Lucas are guards who get easy looks at the basket. Greenway is the most skilled and can create his own shot. Lewis likes to shoot the 3 ball (23-65). These two guys work well together.
Off the bench, there are two guys worth watching..
Touze is average 16 and 10 off the bench. Unlike the starting forwards, he likes to grab offensive rebounds, he averages over 2 a game in conference. He is a guy that does his work within 8 feet of the basket. He is quick and knows how to finish. He has also gone to the line 80 times this year, but shots at under 70%.
Garrick, is an offensive threat of the bench. He doesn't take a lot of shots only 68 in conference play through 10 games. He has a high percentage, 53% from field and 38% from three point land. I think they set up plays just for him to take shots. He is a set shooter in my opinion and won't be creating shots for himself. But, we can't let a guy like that get hot and gain confidence.
This is another test for the Falcons. These guys can run up and down the court with Albertus and plays an excellent half-court offense; Albertus defense played well on Monday but has not been consistent. Look for a lot of pick and pop, back door screens, and motion style offense from JWU which has given Albertus a lot of problems. Albertus should control the boards as JWU doesn't put a lot of pressure on the glass on the offensive end. I am concerned about tired legs and a let down from Monday night.
But, I think Oliver is an excellent coach and there are enough experience guys on the team to avoid a meltdown. JWU is not as good defensively as Purchase. If Albertus can shoot the ball better than they did on Monday, they will have a good chance of winning.
Sounds like it's gonna be a great game. Maybe the New Haven Register will send a reporter to the game tonight. Sad that a local paper does not cover this team. They beat a top 25 team and got a 4 line article.
43-40 Albertus at half
72-70 Abertus 1.50 to go
76-74 Albertus with 9 sec and Albertus possession..... what a game
Ljuljdjuraj unbelievable!!!
78-74 Albertus final!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GREAT GAME 8-) congrats to AM great fight by J&W!
Albertus wins 78-74.
Need to make foul shots and take better care of the ball going forward.
Quote from: ECSUalum on January 29, 2014, 07:47:54 PM
43-40 Albertus at half
72-70 Abertus 1.50 to go
76-74 Albertus with 9 sec and Albertus possession..... what a game
Ljuljdjuraj unbelievable!!!
78-74 Albertus final!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GREAT GAME 8-) congrats to AM great fight by J&W!
What a game is right ECSU! Thx! Let down hangover game combined with a tough JWU team made for ALMOST an upset. Trap game written all over it. Albertus looked lackluster for most of the game, hate off to JWU they are def one of the top10-15 teams in region. Albertus was down 74-72 under one min bout found a way. On to st joes!
Hats *
Best win of the year.. Albertus was not sharp offensively.. JWU played excellent defense and put a lot of pressure on Albertus, but they found a way to win... As a great coach use to say.. A win is a win is a win....
Hopefully, Albertus gets some rest.. St. Joe will be a tough game on the road.
I'd be worried about Albertus on Saturday. I've never been up to St. Joes Maine, but from what I've been told it's right down (up??) route 202 from Southern Maine in Gorham. That's always a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong trip for Western, RIC & Eastern, and when those 3 teams play @ USM, USM plays them extremely tough, if not pulls off wins. In 6 of the last 7 years, USM has gotten victories at home against at least 1 of those teams in a season, and 4 of those 6 years saw USM finish with either a 3-11 or 2-12 conference record and they were still able to get it done.
SJME was also the last team that defeated Johnson & Wales before AMC did, and that was also in Maine. IF Albertus is sloppy/comes unprepared, SJME could definitely and easily win, because that team will be ready to play, and after 2 grueling wins vs. Purchase & J&W and you combine that 5+ hour road trip, I'm not entirely sold.
I think they'll win in the end however because AMC has better players, but I wouldn't be that surprised if it went the other way.
Couple points/questions that hopefully those who were at the game/watched the game can answer for me. I was only able to catch glimpses on my phone, basically waiting for the action to shoot to the left side so I can see the score, then I'd have to turn it back off!
If you would have told me the game would finish in the 70's, I would have said there's a better chance of an L than a W. Good to see us win a low scoring (by our standards) game for a change.
I saw Quarry Greenway only had 8 points? Was he just off, did he defer more, or was whoever was on him (Eian, Darius?) doing a good job individually?
I know A2007 said we need to make foul shots going forward. 26-33 isn't terrible, and is MUCH improved from the 11-23 performance they put up against Purchase. Hopefully they continue to shoot at a clip closer to the JWU output.
One thing this game and the Purchase game showed me is something that has been talked about recently with this team and that's closing games out, having that killer instinct. These past two games just reminded me of the first round game against St. Joes LI in 2011-2012. We're up by 20 in the 2nd half and win that one in a nail biter. I can't recall directly if either of these past 2 games got up that high in score margin, but when you're up 8-14 points in the 2nd half we have to stomp on the throat and go for the kill. We've even seen it against the lower level GNAC teams where we're up 20-25 and like that its a 12 point game. Hopefully I'm overreacting a little but it's definitely a concern for me.
How was the crowd last night?
and 7, you definitely bring up some valid points about that ride to Maine. As a former soccer player for AMC, it SUCKS, especially the double headers with the girls which is what the basketball teams will be doing Saturday. What they do have going for them is the trip is early and they have the second game (girls at 12:30, boys at 2:30). On trips like that, nothing is worse than getting on the bus at 6-7AM, traveling for 4 hours, getting off the bus half asleep ready to play a game. They get some time to adjust and loosen up.
Albertus needed a game like this outside of Central. They were virtually out toughed and out played but what makes them a great team is that they found a way to win. Good teams do that. WPI, Williams, and other top teams do that. The crowd wasnt into until the last min. As a fan since the first Championship, Albertus crowd has becoming increasing lackluster. They have went down since 2010 season. There used to be a whole section of students, baseball and soccer guys terrifying the other teams. Now you can hear a pin drop in the nest beside SUNY game.
All in all, St.Joes will be tough as they always are the 2nd time around and up in Maine. This Falcons team is different from years past tho. They are special. They didn't deserve to win against JWU and they did. They keep fighting and Oliver is a tremendous coach. It's hard to say that they aren't a top team in the nation. I don't care wabt people say, this team is special. And forget SOSc they have played Jersey city who was ranked, Elms who traditionally have a great program and Mitchell who should win their conference. Not forgetting Central and Leham had players all over the place. The Gnac kills Albertus. And guys think about this, if your Amherst or WPI, and Albertus wants a game, don't you say no at fear of losing to a Gnac opponent which might hurt you come NcAa time. While it would be great, just think about all the factors to why Albertus can't get those games. It's just my opinion and thoughts. I have this team beating st joes by 10.. Locking up home court in the Gnac.. Trap game is Emmanuel !! They are becoming a tough matchup in the GNAC
Quote from: 7express on January 29, 2014, 11:47:50 PM
I'd be worried about Albertus on Saturday. I've never been up to St. Joes Maine, but from what I've been told it's right down (up??) route 202 from Southern Maine in Gorham. That's always a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong trip for Western, RIC & Eastern, and when those 3 teams play @ USM, USM plays them extremely tough, if not pulls off wins. In 6 of the last 7 years, USM has gotten victories at home against at least 1 of those teams in a season, and 4 of those 6 years saw USM finish with either a 3-11 or 2-12 conference record and they were still able to get it done.
SJME was also the last team that defeated Johnson & Wales before AMC did, and that was also in Maine. IF Albertus is sloppy/comes unprepared, SJME could definitely and easily win, because that team will be ready to play, and after 2 grueling wins vs. Purchase & J&W and you combine that 5+ hour road trip, I'm not entirely sold.
I think they'll win in the end however because AMC has better players, but I wouldn't be that surprised if it went the other way.
7, you hit it right on the head.. A month ago, I told GNAC that this is hell week for Albertus. It started with on the road at Lasell, who isn't a bad team (not a great team, but decent). Then home versus the two best teams they've played this year. St. Joe's a long trip, very good at home, very well coached, very big (gives our bigs trouble all the time). I am concerned about this game. Albertus is tired and beaten up. I would think practices will be light, to get guys rested. Wiggins has been off the last two games, I think he is getting fatigued. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they lose in Standish, ME.
Quote from: FormerGNACplayer on January 30, 2014, 09:55:18 AM
As a fan since the first Championship, Albertus crowd has becoming increasing lackluster. They have went down since 2010 season. There used to be a whole section of students, baseball and soccer guys terrifying the other teams. Now you can hear a pin drop in the nest beside SUNY game.
Yeah when my class graduated...that first GNAC title game, the place was ROCKING. Not to mention we went to Willy P and we're just as loud, if not louder in our little section haha
Dave,
to answer some of your questions..
Darius did a great job on Greenway.. He played excellent defense. Greenway made him work and it effected his offense. But, if he can play defense like that, Albertus will have an opportunity every night.
You are right, they don't show the killer instinct to put a team away. But, what I like about last night was that they were not the better team on the floor. JWU, out played them. The coach used time-outs to slow the game down. They wore the Falcons down defensively, and made them work on defense with every possession. I think the JWU coach, said we need to win this game in the 70s, we can't run with these guys. And he did it. But with the game on the line, tied at 70 with under 3 left. JWU only scored 4 more points.. Great toughness and heart.
The crowd is clueless.... There is no defense chants, no loud roars during big free throw attempts, no energy. It is sad when you can hear the home team bench chanting defense from the stands. The crowd doesn't understand how they can feed energy to the team. Hopefully, someone gives them a lesson.
Final Score : ST Joe 72 / Emmanuel 70
In earlier posts I was making a joke of the fact that the Saints shoot the ball much better in away games than they do at home. I am afraid that it is no longer a joke. The team is just much more relaxed, play loose, and play much better when they get away from their home court. There must be a reason for this but I don't know what it is. Maybe the coach puts so much pressure on them not to get embarrassed at home like they were against J&W that it has the opposite effect and causes them to play poorly on their home court. Maybe they are so afraid about what will happen at practice the day after a home loss that they just can't shoot the ball effectively. Whatever the reason, the stats say they play much better on the road.
St Joe is a quality team who runs their sets well, hits open shots, defends and rebounds , and takes advantage of transition opportunities. The Monks really move the ball to the open man showing 20 assists on 26 field goals. The Saints once again they shot the ball much better in an away game than they do at home. Shooting 45% from the field and 50% from behind the 3 point arc helped them keep this game close. It was a 10 point deficit with 3 minutes to play when the Saints hit three desperation 3's to make it a one point game. Ever since the Saints started using senior guards in their starting lineup and in the rotation in general they have been much more competitive team, at least in away games. The Saints now stand at 4 - 13 with 8 games remaining.
As the former ringleader of the albertus student section, I am extremely disappointed, I really having nothing else to say except that I wish this team was there when I was there.
I'm not too worried about st joes, and if albertus loses I will be shocked, so I disagree there guys. Last night albertus missed some open threes thru usually knock down, and had some just head scratching turnovers, about 7 of them. I just kept saying win this game on no legs and energy and we're gonna run the table, and they did. Albertus will have a much better performance up in Maine Saturday. They will be rested, and they will be ready to go. They literally looked fatigued yday, but got thru it. What a win
Gnacbball I couldn't agree more! They are sorry and as bad as Albertus played, you feed off your crowd energy ! They give you another source of life. the Falcons did it without that help. Maybe the last minute. Terrible. St joes will be a good game. I still see the falcons +8 in a tight game until late.. Remember they will be on two days rest and a long drive to play at 2:30.. Plenty of time.
Quote from: GnacBballFan on January 30, 2014, 11:26:34 AM
As the former ringleader of the albertus student section, I am extremely disappointed, I really having nothing else to say except that I wish this team was there when I was there.
I'm not too worried about st joes, and if albertus loses I will be shocked, so I disagree there guys. Last night albertus missed some open threes thru usually knock down, and had some just head scratching turnovers, about 7 of them. I just kept saying win this game on no legs and energy and we're gonna run the table, and they did. Albertus will have a much better performance up in Maine Saturday. They will be rested, and they will be ready to go. They literally looked fatigued yday, but got thru it. What a win
It's comparing apples to oranges, but the 2012 Western team with DaQuan Brooks, Mike Kennedy, Gary Robinson, lost on the road to Southern Maine when Western was clearly the better team. They got completely hosed by the Maine zebras that game (the reach in on Brooks that have USM 2 free throws for the win) was an ultimate joke call and would've been a terrible call at 19:30 in the first yet alone 4.1 seconds of a tie game in the second, but the result was the same none-the-less. Western took them lightly, and ended up losing a game which cost them a chance at hosting the LEC tourney that year. I still think J&W plays at an underrated Lasell, but J&W still has the return game in Providence later this year. The Falcons aren't totally in the clear yet, they have to realize that, and realize the Monks aren't goin go lie and play dead just because AMC is ranked 17th in the country.
7,
I couldn't agree more.. The sad part is that Albertus gets no wiggle room playing in the GNAC. A lost to any team could really hurt their regional ranking.
No doubt 7, I def hear what you're saying. But like former said this albertus team seems special. After watching albertus control st joes at home with basically no Davis for 3/4 of that game I will be shocked if they lose. However, that is why they play the games
Looking at some box scores for JWU, they've only lost 2 games when Touze plays, st joes (first game for Touze of the yr, 6 points), and albertus. They clearly are a different team with him. I still think albertus is about 6-12 points better when rested but JWU is a top team in this region(albeit a little weak the region this yr). But they can beat anyone in the gnac and it's a two horse race in my opinion
Big Game today in Standish. With a win this should really put Albertus in the driver seat for 1st place and home court advantage in the GNAC tourney.
Anyone taking the drive or watching online today?? From what it looks like St. Joes has a professional video feed with play by play commentary. For the price of 10.95 LOL.
LOL $10.95?? I know it's a big game and all, but that seems like an extremely high price. Better be "out of the ballpark" quality for that price. There's a lot of division 1 schools I know that don't even charge that high of a price for the video.
7, shows you how much I know lol 44-22 st joes at half
Albertus 0 assist at the half, shooting 1-10 from three point range. They scored 22 points, they average 89.
St. Joe's has hit 9 threes..
How badly does Albertus want to stay undefeated in conference?
They can get back into this game. But, they need to shoot the ball better and defend better. Can they do it? Honestly, I don't think so. St. Joe's is too well coach. I think it is matter of not getting blown out.
But, I am rooting for them just as hard.. Let' go Falcons!
Quote from: GnacBballFan on February 01, 2014, 03:08:40 PM
7, shows you how much I know lol 44-22 st joes at half
GNAC & PJ, Williams was down 16 at half @ Middlebury last night and won. It can be done, but will be really difficult. They have the firepower on offense to do it as they can score 10 points in the blink of eye, but the defense has to really step up in the second.
I agree 7, they were capable but it just isn't going their way today. 45 points with 5 min left. Albertus will have to regroup. I did not see this coming, I thought st joes was a little weak and didn't think the away game would have mattered. Hopefully this is what albertus needed to realize they just can't turn it on when they want
Albertus losses by 19 to St. Joes.... This game was over 8 mins in... St. Joe led 27-9. They shot the ball better, played better defense, and quite frankly played a better game..
A lost is disappointing but this is still the best group of talent Albertus has ever had. This game gives Coach Oliver a lot to think about...Very quickly..
1. Over the last week, the team has struggled at the free throw line.
2. Wiggins has been awful the last week (I didn't see the St. Joe's game) but he missed wide open shots vs Purchase and JWU.
3. Watson has really struggled with his offensive game the last thre games.. Not show if he is hurting more than he has led on or is fatigued
4. The post game has gone away.. Vic and Larsen have averaged 27 points before the Purchase game, the last three games they've scored: 16 pts vs Purchase, 21 vs JWU, and 5 today..
Good team lose and play hard the rest of the year.. Great teams lose and make adjustments so they will be hard to defeat again..
Let's see what happens on Wednesday.
Well boys all I am going to say is on to the next one. I usually put that at the end of my posts and use !!!!!!! exclamation points but today they are definitely not required.
I have never been one to buy into the "good loss" perspective and this game isn't going to change that. But I do agree with GNAC and will 2nd his point and say that this might show the Falcons that they really have to show up every game and compete at a high level. Switching on and off whenever they think they can simply will not work.
I also have to make the point that I am not worried at ALLLLL. Did this game show some weaknesses YES absolutely but at the same time I think they will rebound and come out Wednesday and play the way we all know they can.
My only worry is how important the road game at JWU is going to be now that we have one loss and both them and St. Joes have 2. Does anyone know the tiebreak scenario if for arguments sake there is a 3 way tie for first place between Albertus, JWU and St. Joes
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 01, 2014, 04:26:10 PM
Well boys all I am going to say is on to the next one. I usually put that at the end of my posts and use !!!!!!! exclamation points but today they are definitely not required.
I have never been one to buy into the "good loss" perspective and this game isn't going to change that. But I do agree with GNAC and will 2nd his point and say that this might show the Falcons that they really have to show up every game and compete at a high level. Switching on and off whenever they think they can simply will not work.
I also have to make the point that I am not worried at ALLLLL. Did this game show some weaknesses YES absolutely but at the same time I think they will rebound and come out Wednesday and play the way we all know they can.
My only worry is how important the road game at JWU is going to be now that we have one loss and both them and St. Joes have 2. Does anyone know the tiebreak scenario if for arguments sake there is a 3 way tie for first place between Albertus, JWU and St. Joes
Assuming they all suffer losses to each other most go to a coin flip, but I think the NESCAC and some others uses SOS to break ties.. I know when Western tied Plymouth last year all the tiebreakers were unbreakable (finished 1-1 against each other, 2-0 vs. Mass-Dartmouth, and 0-10 against the other 5 teams) so the LEC went straight to a coin flip to break that tiebreaker.
Coin flip is so ridiculous but I understand thats the process and the way it must be done.
Thanks for the insight 7, Much appreciated.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 01, 2014, 05:03:18 PM
Coin flip is so ridiculous but I understand thats the process and the way it must be done.
Thanks for the insight 7, Much appreciated.
It might be different. Not sure of how far down the GNAC goes before going to the coin flip. As I said in my last post, some conferences use strength of schedule (or some variation of that) before flipping George Washington.
The GNAC uses overall win percentage to determine tie breakers. If JWU, Albertus, and St. Joe all finish with 2 losses.. Albertus will be 1 seed, JWU 2 and St. Joe 3. Albertus would need to lose two more games in conference to not have home court.
JWU toughest game remaining is home vs Albertus
Albertus toughest game is at JWU
St. Joe is at Lasell
St. Joe has had some questionable losses the last 3 years on the road. I would keep an eye out at Emmanual.
Albertus has Lasell and Emmanual at home. Both teams can give Albertus issues for various reasons.
JWU has played their tough road games already. As long as they play smart, they shouldn't be tested. But, that's why they play.
A fun month of February is upon us boys...
7 and PJ, I am not doubting either of you. I just want to know how confident each of you are in the tiebreaker format?? You both proposed two different takes and want to know if either of you actually agree with the other after hearing the others side.
Perhaps Pat or Dave can also contribute with some insight since they both are D3 afficianados??
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 01, 2014, 10:18:06 PM
7 and PJ, I am not doubting either of you. I just want to know how confident each of you are in the tiebreaker format?? You both proposed two different takes and want to know if either of you actually agree with the other after hearing the others side.
Perhaps Pat or Dave can also contribute with some insight since they both are D3 afficianados??
I'm more confident in PJ since he knows the GNAC more than I do, LOL.
Quote from: GnacBballFan on January 28, 2014, 03:03:45 PM
Pj, you realize we just jinxed albertus into losing to JWU St.Joe's on Saturday, right?
Gnac and PJ,
I fixed it for you. ;D
Junkie,
Unless they changed it this year.. That has been the rule for the men. The women only play each other once, so it is unlikey they come into this scenario.. however, they have the same rule in case it is a three way tie with no clear winner.
Magic, I thought St. Joe would be a tough game.. Didn't think they would handle Albertus the way they did. They held Albertus to 30 points in the first 28 minutes. Amazing defensive plan and execution.
Quote from: pjunito on February 02, 2014, 09:43:04 AM
Junkie,
Unless they changed it this year.. That has been the rule for the men. The women only play each other once, so it is unlikey they come into this scenario.. however, they have the same rule in case it is a three way tie with no clear winner.
Magic, I thought St. Joe would be a tough game.. Didn't think they would handle Albertus the way they did. They held Albertus to 30 points in the first 28 minutes. Amazing defensive plan and execution.
Pj,
I didn't expect that result at all. St Joe's played down in DC over the holidays in a tournament that Cortland State, from my SUNYAC conference, played in. Cortland played the host team, Catholic in the 1st round and won by 6 points. St Joe's played Misericordia in the 1st round and lost by a 68-65 score. Cortland won the championship game the next day over Misericordia, while Catholic beat St Joe's in the consolation game by an 87-61 blowout. Cortland is in a 4 way tie for 4th place in the SUNYAC and may not even make the playoffs. (Top 6 only). This was a bad loss for AM. They're a better team than this game indicates. I guess St Joe's came out on fire and AM couldn't catch up.
Final Score Lasell 89 / Emmanuel 74
The Saints used an aggressive full court man to man press to turn a winnable game into another home court loss. Lasell is a good team but not an overpowering or extremely athletic team, and this should have been a much closer game. It is puzzling that after 18 games the Saints coach still doesn't know what the best defensive system is that his team is capable of playing. Over half of Lasell's field goals came from easy transition layups or back cuts behind an over aggressive wing defender.
The Lasell post player did not have a good day making post moves from a set offense but he had a field day scoring in transition against a wide open lane with no help defenders anywhere in sight. The Saints are not a good man to man defensive team, they get beat off the dribble all game long and give up wide open 3 point looks with poor close outs. The only games they have managed to win this year was by playing a tight 2 - 3 zone, closing down driving lanes, controlling defensive rebounds, and matching up with perimeter shooters. Why they keep opening up games with their trademark full court man press is beyond belief. Once again the Saints shot under 40% from the field and under 32% from the 3 point arc on their home court. This game was their 8 th consecutive home court loss.
Final Score St Joe 74 / AMC 55
I was very surprised by this score. I thought that St Joe was a quality team who played very unselfish basketball by looking for open teammates, running their half court sets, and knocking down opportunity baskets. I did not find St Joe to be overly athletic, or dominating in the paint or to have great foot speed. I am really surprised that this was not a closer game. AMC usually has 55 points by halftime, not for the game. I thought that the AMC foot speed, the quick hands in the passing lanes, and the rebounding in the paint would have given St Joe a
lot of trouble. When I saw St Joe play at J&W they did not get any
dribble penetration into the lane, did not get any easy transition baskets, and had trouble getting open perimeter looks against the J&W close outs. I know that AMC had two difficult games this week. It is possible that St Joe took advantage of tired legs, tired hands, and open passing lanes. The last two weeks of the season should see some very competitive games where the outcome of games may be hard to predict.
Quote from: magicman on February 02, 2014, 10:43:27 AM
Quote from: pjunito on February 02, 2014, 09:43:04 AM
Junkie,
Unless they changed it this year.. That has been the rule for the men. The women only play each other once, so it is unlikey they come into this scenario.. however, they have the same rule in case it is a three way tie with no clear winner.
Magic, I thought St. Joe would be a tough game.. Didn't think they would handle Albertus the way they did. They held Albertus to 30 points in the first 28 minutes. Amazing defensive plan and execution.
Pj,
I didn't expect that result at all. St Joe's played down in DC over the holidays in a tournament that Cortland State, from my SUNYAC conference, played in. Cortland played the host team, Catholic in the 1st round and won by 6 points. St Joe's played Misericordia in the 1st round and lost by a 68-65 score. Cortland won the championship game the next day over Misericordia, while Catholic beat St Joe's in the consolation game by an 87-61 blowout. Cortland is in a 4 way tie for 4th place in the SUNYAC and may not even make the playoffs. (Top 6 only). This was a bad loss for AM. They're a better team than this game indicates. I guess St Joe's came out on fire and AM couldn't catch up.
Magicman, I don't think anyone here expected a result like that. 7 said the long trip can really hurt them, and they had two tough games this week. But, I don't agree with Junkie, in college basketball good losses exist all the time. Let's face it, a coach needs to make sure that their team is playing its best basketball by mid-February. Albertus has not played a complete game since the Rivier game on January 20. Now, they have won every game expect Saturdays. But, I think adversity can be a good thing. There are 4 new pieces to this team. How do they handle what just happened Saturday. They aren't undefeated in d3, they aren't undefeated in conference, they aren't the 16 ranked team in d3 basketball. Get back to basics, get back to simple offense and hard defense.
I really want to see how they play over the next 4 games.
Let's remember... long trips could be a staple of playing in the NCAA tournament. If AMC can't make a long trip to beat St. Joe's... how can we expect for them to do the same say on the second weekend (or first) of the tournament against far better competition?
That me a good point dave, but it's also a team albertus handled easily with no Eian Davis a few weeks ago. Albertus record stands for itself, first loss in d3 this yr. St joes shot about 60 percent from three, while albertus didn't hit their threes. It happens. Williams lost to southern Vermont but is still in top 10. Albertus is one of the better teams in the nation, wins over purchase, New Jersey city, a close loss to D 1 central, and dominating in 14 of their 16 wins says just that. If everyone wants to think they are a different team now based off of their first loss against d 3 opponents so be it. We will see, it's gonna be a fun February. If coach Oliver gets on hoopsville again though, it be a great question to ask him
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 02, 2014, 04:29:35 PM
Let's remember... long trips could be a staple of playing in the NCAA tournament. If AMC can't make a long trip to beat St. Joe's... how can we expect for them to do the same say on the second weekend (or first) of the tournament against far better competition?
Dave, I am not sure how you can correlate a road trip in the middle of conference play to one in the post season? I don't think anyone on these boards were making an excuse for Albertus losing (especially not the travel). On Thursday, 7 made a point that he remembers good Western teams having trouble with the travel to play USM and Albertus might feel some of the effects of that same travel from Soutern CT to Maine. However, that should be no excuse to getting dominated in every aspect of the game.
As I mentioned earlier, this Albertus team is the most talented Albertus has had under Oliver. Can they make the adjustments and get to playing a good brand of basketball before the GNAC tournament and beyond.
Albertus only drops three spots in the new top 25 after their first D3 loss this season. Currently ranked 19th in the country.
Interesting game tomorrow night for the Falcons. Curious to see how they bounce back against an Anna Maria team who certainly is having a down year. As we all know, this has never been the easiest gym for Albertus to play in but overall I think we are a far superior team and should bounce back nicely with a W.
I think the time off from Saturday till today essentially has been key for the Falcons. You could just tell by the way they played Saturday that they were just worn out and tired. After 2 grueling games against a Top 25 team followed by there toughest conference game of the season to date with JWU and then a long road trip to Maine against a well coached and seasoned team in St Joes, this rest was certianly needed.
Oliver is such a good coach, and I'm sure he realized that they needed some rest and I would think he gave them an off day of practice.
Due to the anticipated snowstorm for tomorrow the Albertus game vs Anna Maria has been moved to Thursday with a 6PM start time.
Kind of assumed this was going to happen. Is anybody planning on traveling to the game to see it live??
Hey Junkie,
I won't be at the game, but Anna Maria has some good feeds last year. So, I will be watching it on the computer.
I think they beat Anna Maria, Anna Maria lost a lot from last year's team.
The top 25 means nothing now for Albertus. It is all about the regional ranking now.. The St. Joe lost really hurts and if I am correct, the Purchase game is not considered.
Rankings come out tomorrow.
Hey PJ,
I agree the top 25 means nothing now. I was just pointing out the fact they moved down. And I beleive you are correct about the Purchase game because they are not a regional opponenent. No doubt the St. Joe's loss hurts mightily but I still believe that they are a Top 5 team in the region. Your thoughts?
My top 5 in the NE Region are as follows. And I took a quick look at SOS and W/L in Conference and against Regional opponents:
1. Amherst
2. WPI
3. Williams
4. Albertus
5. Eastern CT
Again thats just my quick take with a brief glance at some numbers.
Purchase game is a regional game since it is 55 miles from each other's campuses. Thus they will count as a regional game in the eyes of the NCAA... but of course all games count as long as you play 70% of your schedule in region (17 games)...
Great news Dave, as always thanks for the insight!
Actually Dave do you care to expand on that a bit more. Am I the only one who finds it odd that there (purchase) is in the Atlantic region and yet for us (albertus) it will count as a regional game? Believe me, I am not complaining as any Albertus fan will tell you that is a huge victory when it comes to regional ranking for the Falcons. Just trying to learn a bit more about the system here and how that all works. I'm not too proud to say that I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to the entire Division III landscape abd how it all works. Call me a homer I guess!
Thanks
Junkie a game is a region game if it counts one of these 3 criteria:
1) The schools are located 200 miles from each other using this website: https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles
2) The schools are in the same geographic region as noted on the D3 page (i.e. Northeast, East, Atlantic, Middle Atlantic, South, Great Lakes, West & Midwest)
3) The schools are located in the same administration region as definined by the NCAA. Those a bit more complicated and those administration regions are really weird (i.e Catholic in DC is in the same admin region as Maine-Presque Isle a school located about 1,000 miles north of it), but more of those admin regions is availaible on the FAQ link I think.
Also ALL conference games count as in-region, so that's how NYU & Brandeis games against Emory & Wash U count.
Also, it doesn't matter where the games played. If Albertus & Western played in Berlin, Germany, the game would be still be in region because they are in the same geographic & admin region and less than 200 miles.
So, since Purchase & Albertus are less than 200 miles, that counts as in region.
If Albertus ever schedule Maine-Presque Isle, that will also count as "in region." The schools are more than 200 miles apart, but they are in the same geographgic region.
Maine-Presque Isle & Catholic are in different geographic regions, more than 200 miles, but because they are in the same admin regions, that game will also count as in region.
Now a game with Oswego would be out of region: more than 200 miles (322.4), different admin regions & different geographic regions.
Hope that helped a little junkie.
Wow!! Outstanding 7, thank you very much for the info. That certainly helps me out more than a little. Much appreciated.
And I must say Albertus vs Western playing overseas in Berlin Germany sounds pretty good to me LOL. Maybe we should get Coach Oliver and Coach Campbell on the board and propose the game to them LOL. Even though we aren't fortunate enough to get them to play each other anymore in the state let alone Berlin, what a shame. Watching Brooks and Askew and Oliver and Campbell go at it the last couple years was truely amazing and such a great in state rivalry. Its too bad its all over with.
Again thanks for the info.
I own a Maine Presque-Isle t-shirt.
Has nothing to do with the GNAC or this board.. But, I wanted to let everyone know.
Very good PJ, I think how you came across one is the better question?? I have a UC Santa Cruz Banana Slugs T-Shirt that I hold near and dear inspired from the movie Pulp Fiction.
How did you guys a UMPI & UCSC t-shirt?? And the better question is.....where do I get one, lol??
I knew someone that worked at Presque-Isle.. Had to look on a map to see where it was.. She basically was in Canada.. lol. She thought I was a nice guy and I got a shirt.
Still wear it today, maybe the best t-shirt I ever had, got it in 2004 and hasn't faded. Maybe, I will wear at the next Albertus game. lol.
7, my story isn't as good as PJs. I saw it on the movie, loved the movie and went online and order one LOL. But like PJs mine hasn't faded yet either haha.
Time to log onto sports Authority and or Dick's sporting goods and try to find one, lol
Quote from: 7express on February 04, 2014, 06:26:22 PM
Junkie a game is a region game if it counts one of these 3 criteria:
1) The schools are located 200 miles from each other using this website: https://web1.ncaa.org/TES/exec/miles
2) The schools are in the same geographic region as noted on the D3 page (i.e. Northeast, East, Atlantic, Middle Atlantic, South, Great Lakes, West & Midwest)
3) The schools are located in the same administration region as definined by the NCAA. Those a bit more complicated and those administration regions are really weird (i.e Catholic in DC is in the same admin region as Maine-Presque Isle a school located about 1,000 miles north of it), but more of those admin regions is availaible on the FAQ link I think.
Also ALL conference games count as in-region, so that's how NYU & Brandeis games against Emory & Wash U count.
Also, it doesn't matter where the games played. If Albertus & Western played in Berlin, Germany, the game would be still be in region because they are in the same geographic & admin region and less than 200 miles.
So, since Purchase & Albertus are less than 200 miles, that counts as in region.
If Albertus ever schedule Maine-Presque Isle, that will also count as "in region." The schools are more than 200 miles apart, but they are in the same geographgic region.
Maine-Presque Isle & Catholic are in different geographic regions, more than 200 miles, but because they are in the same admin regions, that game will also count as in region.
Now a game with Oswego would be out of region: more than 200 miles (322.4), different admin regions & different geographic regions.
Hope that helped a little junkie.
7express and D3HoopJunkie,
There are new rules in place for what constitutes a regional game this year. Basically in most conferences especialy in the East and Northeast just about every game you play is now considered a regional game. The only games that aren't counted are those against a non D3 team or a provisional D3 team. For example:
Plattsburgth State went to New Jersey for a tournament in November and played Richard Stockton and Bridgewater State. They then went to Florida and played Millikin and Wisconsin-Stout out of the midwest over the Christmas holidays. According to the criteria you've listed above, 7express, none of these games would be considered a regional game. That would be true if it were last year. However this year all 4 of those games are considered to be regional games for Plattsburgh State. Here are the new rules for what constitutes a regional contest, effective this year. This is from a post that Dave McHugh had posted on the East Region board because we had a poster who thought the same as you did 7, that the regional criteria was the same as last year.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on January 31, 2014, 05:38:20 PM
To make the explaination easier... if a team plays 70% of their games in their region (or as regional games per the definition of regional games we have been using for years), then ALL of their games will count towards primary criteria. We may see "regional record" on the SOS data in a few weeks (I don't know what it will actually look like), but primary criteria is now all-games-count unless you didn't hit the threshold (and didn't get a waiver). If that is the case, then only your in-region record will count in primary criteria.
If curious... 18 games is the magic numbers as 70% of a basketball schedule max of 25 games is 17.5. And no conference tournament games count towards the 70%... it has to be the schedule submitted to the NCAA before the season begins (I think that deadline is in September).
So in the case of Plattsburgh State (and most teams in our neck of the woods) since Plattsburgh plays 18 conference games and of course they are all considered regional games under the regional criteria, then Plattsburgh has played at least 70% of their games against regional opponents. It turns out that Plattsburgh would have played 21 regional games under last years rules as those 4 games I mentioned above wouldn't count, but this year the Cardinals will have all 25 of their games count toward their regional record.
Hope this helps to straighten things out. 8-)
Thank you very much Magic. That certainly does help out more and provides a deeper understand into the criteria that I was questioning in the first place.
Also I have read on some of the other threads that regional rankings come out next week and not this week. Is that true? When is the exact date?
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 04, 2014, 11:10:54 PM
Thank you very much Magic. That certainly does help out more and provides a deeper understand into the criteria that I was questioning in the first place.
Also I have read on some of the other threads that regional rankings come out next week and not this week. Is that true? When is the exact date?
From what I remember the last couple years it's usually Wednesday around 4-4:30 PM. The only reason I knew this was because I had a 5:30 Wednesday class in Danbury the last 2 years and for those 2-3 weeks I'd always be late for class because I wouldn't leave until they released the rankings. This year with Wednesdays off for me, watch the NCAA release them at 10 AM now ;D So that would leave the first release date February 12 probably in the 4-5 PM range.
Let me clear something up... the regional criteria has NOT changed... not one bit. However, what is considered in primary criteria HAS changed.
A team must play 70% of their schedule against a Division III opponent in their region. To determine what game counts as in-region you go to the four ways a game counts (conference game, same designated region, within 200 miles, or in the same administrative region. IF a team meets that 70% criteria... then ALL of their Division III games will count when considering primary criteria. (Most teams meet this criteria pretty easily, especially in double-round-robin conferences or in regions like the East Coast where traveling to get games is easy.) If a team does NOT meet this criteria and is not approved for a waiver, than ONLY their in-region games (in the four ways they are achieved) can count in primary criteria which also includes their SOS math. That puts a team at a major disadvantage.
Make sense?
As for regional rankings... they are released on the final three Wednesdays of the season usually in the mid-afternoon time frame (first ones tend to be a bit tardy for whatever reasons). This year you will have your first regional rankings on February 12.
Yes Dave it all makes sense to me now after piecing everything together from yourself, 7 and Magic. Thank you for all the information. It was most helpful. Also thank you for the regional ranking information as well. I look forward to next weeks rankings.
Im not seeing any Video (V) links for the Albertus vs Anna Maria game on any of the schedules. I checked The Albertus website, Anna Maria website and D3Hoops.com sked? Anyone know why?? I know Anna Maria had a feed last year???
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 06, 2014, 02:21:01 PM
Im not seeing any Video (V) links for the Albertus vs Anna Maria game on any of the schedules. I checked The Albertus website, Anna Maria website and D3Hoops.com sked? Anyone know why?? I know Anna Maria had a feed last year???
A lot of times the teams won't load the video links to the site, but they still exist. If you don't have video for every game or a full time SID to keep it updated, some of those links get lost in the shuffle. Let's just be glad almost everybody is turning in final scores these days.
You can go to the team schedule page (you can generally find the links to each program's home page on their team page at d3hoops.com). Just click on the home team on the scoreboard, then click on the link for the team's website, and find schedule. I find a decent number of livestats and video feeds that way, even when they're not linked from the scoreboard.
Well, as someone once said: "a win, is a win is a win." Albertus beat the amcats by 34 last time. A 14 pt lead 9 mins in looked like it was a repeat. But Ana Maria shot lifhts out, barillo in particular, and made this a closer game then expected. Scratching my head right now
I know we keep harping on this team being the most talented ever at AMC but man this stuff is getting frustrating. Cool, we dropped 109. We shot a staggering 58% from the field. We can out score anyone at any time...but there's not a chance in heck any team in the sweet 16 is giving up ONE HUNDRED AND FOUR points to a 6-7 GNAC team. I know we never were a great defensive team PPG wise, but that's absurd. I don't know if they get in this mindset where they KNOW they're gonna score on every possession so they can get lazy on D, but I figured the game against St. Joes would have gotten them out of that after they didn't score at will.
As for positives, as bad as the D was you can't overlook 109 points and 58% from the floor. 79.5% from the charity stripe is great too. It's nice to see 6 guys in double figures.
Did anyone watch the game? I just don't understand why Jennings only took 4 three's. I can't explain seeing 2-10, 3-12 but when he's 4-4 he doesn't launch again? I'm assuming maybe they were closing hard on him so he took it to the rack (hence 10 FT attempts)? Hopefully someone can elaborate.
All in all, like GNAC said, this game is a head scratcher. At this point, I'm way less confident heading into the GNAC tourney, not even looking at the NCAA anymore!
Final Score : Norwich 70 / Emmanuel 60
Watching the Saints game plan is like hearing fingernails scratch a blackboard. Seeing the Saints open the game with their traditional full court man to man defense leaves me shaking my head. Norwich is not a very good team ( 4-15 ). They are not big, not long, not athletic, and don't shoot extremely well, but when they are allowed open driving lanes, uncontested layups, and wide open jump shots they look like a tournament team. To say this was a winnable game would be an understatement. As soon as the Cadets saw Emmanuel open the game in a full court man press they immediately ran off 11 points to get off to a good start before Emmanuel could even call a time out. This set the tone for the game. The Saints man defense is so poor that Norwich shot 60% from the field in the second half of this game. Over half of Norwich's field goals were layups. When a team is struggling for any win, most coaches come up with a game plan that will keep your team close and hope to get hot in the last 3 minutes and steal a win. Not the Saints. The Saints like to spot their opponent a double digit lead in the first 5 minutes of the game and then spend the rest of the game trying to play catch up. This is a difficult strategy if you don't have any sharpshooters on the team. I can't believe that the Saints players buy into this strategy of full court pressing every opponent. Giving up layup after layup to mediocre teams must take a toll on team moral.
Preview : J&W / Emmanuel
No preview necessary for this game, just try and keep it under 60 tonight coach !! If the Saints come out pressing in full court man to man against this very athletic J&W team the refs should stop the game on account of stupidity.
No secret it's been a tough couple last games for the Falcons. But today I think they snap out of it with a much needed home game against a 4-15 Mount Ida team who with no disrespect isn't even in the same class as Albertus.
This is one of those games where Albertus should focus heavily on defense knowing that you're going to be able to score in bunches against this opponent. Work on shutting them down from the perimeter and getting after every loose ball.
Lets Go Falcons!!! Its time to get it back on track!!
if Mt. Ida is able to score more than 70 points I'd be extremely worried. As you said Junkie, the team isn't very good, they'll pretty much be able to do what they want on the offensive end, so this game should be about working at getting better on the defensive side of the basketball. As I've said before, they can score, but to get to the next level, they'll have to step it up on defense. Can't expect to beat great teams giving up 88 & 104 points.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on February 07, 2014, 10:14:52 AM
Preview : J&W / Emmanuel
No preview necessary for this game, just try and keep it under 60 tonight coach !! If the Saints come out pressing in full court man to man against this very athletic J&W team the refs should stop the game on account of stupidity.
Awesome post
Quote from: Saint-Paul on February 07, 2014, 10:14:52 AM
Preview : J&W / Emmanuel
No preview necessary for this game, just try and keep it under 60 tonight coach !! If the Saints come out pressing in full court man to man against this very athletic J&W team the refs should stop the game on account of stupidity.
Hilarious. +1!
AMC up 41-26 at half. Good to see they're under a 70 point pace on D. The key is can they keep it up. A 15 point win means nothing to me if the 2nd half is close with both teams over 35 points. Lock down this game right out of halftime.
Finally a result that restores my faith haha 88-52 I believe was the final
Hardwork beats talent, if talent don't work hard. I have seen enough games and teams.. This is not the best Albertus team. Certainly the most talented and prolly the one with the most potential. I'll give it to the 2012 team when Ray Askew was a sr. I played against that team. They were amazing on both ends. This years team has no heart, no fight, and no defensive discipline. Mt. Ida should've got 30-40 points. Albertus only had to stop one player. They have time to pull it together but they don't look as fluid as they once did and I haven't seen them play 40 mins of de since Central Ct game. They are long and athletic and strong but only use it offensively. The gym is virtually empty and you only hear fan cheer after a dunk, and even that's dead. What the heck is going on in New Haven?? The Falcons will be a Gnac champ if they play at home, out first round in the NCAA. It's not good. I even think the 2010 first champion team could beat this one. They just played harder and with more passion and teamwork. I fear for this Falcons team as I didn't before. Tough stretch with a Lassell and JWU still on their plate... Any thoughts?
Former,
I respectfully disagree. I didn't miss a game in 2010, and while those group of players were most of my friends, they weren't beating this team. 2010 team was special no doubt, from the first gnac title in over 10 yrs, to Byron reeves shot, to bring on sportscenter. But it's also a team that had 7 or 8 losses and lost to desales by 33. This yrs team is 18-2, in a stronger gnac imo(I think this Johnson and Wales team is better then 2010 Emerson), and besides st joes loss and jwu and purchase games has not just won but dominated. In 2010 a gnac loss didn't mean much, but with the expectations of this team I feel like some has been lost on what good a yr they are having. They have their lapses on D no doubt, but I've seem them step up the D against CCSU, Purchase, and JWU. Let's not let one road game against a tough conference opponent who shot lights out overshadow what this team had accomplished at 18-2. Askew is the only 2010 starter that would start on this team. Let's not be so quick to say albertus is gonna exit in the first round when were not even sure if 1) they will make it 2) who they will face. Just my opinion
Quote from: FormerGNACplayer on February 09, 2014, 08:34:42 AM
Hardwork beats talent, if talent don't work hard. I have seen enough games and teams.. This is not the best Albertus team. Certainly the most talented and prolly the one with the most potential. I'll give it to the 2012 team when Ray Askew was a sr. I played against that team. They were amazing on both ends. This years team has no heart, no fight, and no defensive discipline. Mt. Ida should've got 30-40 points. Albertus only had to stop one player. They have time to pull it together but they don't look as fluid as they once did and I haven't seen them play 40 mins of de since Central Ct game. They are long and athletic and strong but only use it offensively. The gym is virtually empty and you only hear fan cheer after a dunk, and even that's dead. What the heck is going on in New Haven?? The Falcons will be a Gnac champ if they play at home, out first round in the NCAA. It's not good. I even think the 2010 first champion team could beat this one. They just played harder and with more passion and teamwork. I fear for this Falcons team as I didn't before. Tough stretch with a Lassell and JWU still on their plate... Any thoughts?
I still think they'll win the GNAC tourney no matter if it's in Maine, Providence, or New Haven, but their skating on extremely thin ice. The J&W game is more important than the Lasell game so if they "had" to lose another game in the regular season, it's probably better if they lose that game. Losing to Lasell and beating J&W gives Albertus the season sweep of J&W in their pocket which St. Joes doesn't have.
I think what it comes down to is this current squad is boom or bust while the (EDITED) 2012 team was solid, but safe. I think the 2nd round was a realistic ending point for that team. Not a whole lot of flash, Ray was going to get his and a young Darius would pick up the rest. You were going to get solid play on both ends night and night out but nothing was really going to surprise you. This team I think, if they can string a few Purchase/CCSU type efforts together in the NCAA tournament could easily surpass the 2nd round. They've shown they can play with anyone on the offensive end, it's a matter of matching that play defensively. But to Echo Former's point, would a first round exit SURPISE me? I'd be extremely disappoint by it but no, not surprised at all.
Final Score : J&W 89 / Emmanuel 66
I have only 3 points that I want to make about this game.
1 - The Saints did indeed open the game in a full court man to man press defense. J&W responded by scoring on their first six possessions of the game. The first two trips down court J&W ran their baseline flex cuts for two uncontested layups. The next four trips J&W ran their flex set to get four wide open 3 point shots off the flex downscreen, draining all four to total 16 points on their first six touches.
Apparently I am not the only one who thinks that the Saints game plan is ridiculous. The J&W game announcers could not stop themselves from laughing out loud in the middle of the broadcast about the logic of the Saints game plan. I believe I heard one of the announcers say that if the Saints don't change their defense soon the Wildcats will have 60 points by halftime. They were close, J&W finished the first half with 47 points, on 71 % shooting percentage. Yes, 71%, that is not a typo, that is the result of the Saints full court man defense.
To continue to put your team into a double digit deficit four minutes into the start of each game is nothing but pure coaching incompetence. Most college coaches try to develop game plans that will keep their teams in games as long as possible against more talented teams. The Saints coach does just the opposite, stubbornly sticking with a faulty game plan that puts the game out of reach quickly. It is not hard to understand why so many players have decided to leave this team in the last five years rather than continue with the frustration of following this game plan. Early in the second half, down by 22 points, instead of going to the huddle during a timeout, two of the Saints guards stood at half court screaming and arguing with each other. Their frustration was obvious.
2 - I have seen GNAC conference games before where the teams have opposite talent levels and opposite records, like 16 - 4 vs 4 - 16. But when it is a conference game the lower rated team usually gets up for the game and gives the higher rated team a very competitive game. Two examples of this are from recent conference games, the Anna Maria / AMC game and the Norwich / St Joe game. This does not happen with Emmanuel. The moral on this team is so low that even when faced with the chance to knock off one of the top teams in the conference they play with no emotion, no passion, and most of all no confidence in themselves. Whatever is being said to them in the lockerroom before, during, and after the games appears to just drain all the competitive spirit out of them and that is really a shame. In the second half of this game the Saints appeared to be just going through the motions.
3 - The third thing I noticed about this game that was surprising was that some of the J&W players were not taking this game seriously in the first half. A few of the J&W players were not sprinting down court, not attacking the rim, and not playing intense defense. Teams with championship aspirations don't do that, they play hard each and every possion even against the last place team. Apparently I am not the only one to notice some of the J&W players taking it easy. At halftime, even through closed doors, the spectators could hear the J&W coach screaming at his players about their lackluster effort in the first half inspite of 47 points on 71% shooting. In the second half the Wildcats showed a much more intense effort worthy of their standing in the conference race. They forced turnovers, ran the floor, set guys up for layups, and got 4 players into double figure scoring with 20 assists on 28 field goals.
Quote from: lildave678 on February 10, 2014, 08:11:34 AM
I think what it comes down to is this current squad is boom or bust while the 2010 team was solid, but safe. I think the 2nd round was a realistic ending point for that team. Not a whole lot of flash, Ray was going to get his and a young Darius would pick up the rest. You were going to get solid play on both ends night and night out but nothing was really going to surprise you. This team I think, if they can string a few Purchase/CCSU type efforts together in the NCAA tournament could easily surpass the 2nd round. They've shown they can play with anyone on the offensive end, it's a matter of matching that play defensively. But to Echo Former's point, would a first round exit SURPISE me? I'd be extremely disappoint by it but no, not surprised at all.
I agree with that dave. Darius wasn't on that team yet, wish he was lol. 7, absolutely, JWU game is the one we need to win to have the sweep
Ah yes, didn't mean the 2010 team, I read your post last so that was in my head...Meant Ray's senior year team.
Good Lord, stop the presses!! Dave has finally placed Albertus Magnus in this top 25 Ballot. I only poke fun Dave 😜 and I must concur with everything that you said in your blog post about the Falcons. I think your description why you left them out so long is valid and accurate from a non biased and knowledgable perspective and I really hope that the Falcons can prove to you that they deserve the ranking.
Now onto a question that popped into my head once I read your post. You mentioned that the Falcons might have a shot at hosting the first round of the NCAA's. (if there fortunate enough to make it that is) Again i'm just trying to learn a little bit more about D3 as a whole and was curious as to how one is able to host an NCAA tournament round. My thought process on it was that you had to put in a bid in advance to get the spot but I'm starting to think that I might be wrong considering how games are played at schools that are in the tournament. Which leads me to believe that the schools arent picked until after the brackets are set?? Whats the criteria and timetable?? Any info would be much appreciated from anyone!!
Thanks!
Hey guys, love the post.. I haven't had internet since halftime on Saturday.... But, I am back.
Very quickly, The 2012 Albertus team was very solid. Ray Askew best player in falcons history and he willed that team. But, as I wrote a few weeks ago. Three of the starting positions are better now (by far) and the bench as a whole is much better. The issue is the identity of the team. 2012, It was Ray's team and he played amazing defense. He blocked shots and made stops. He was able to put the team on his back and win the game (remember the Lasell game, he scored 50 something and the rest of the team 24). There was that comfort watching them, knowing that when they needed a big bucket, Ray was going to get it. The 2014 team has so much more explosive talent, you can't compare it. They have 3 guys who can score at anytime. The problem, I think, is the intensity on defense isn't there. But, does that mean this team isn't better. I thought it. The 2012 GNAC was soo weak. Albertus played horrible teams, and played Anna Maria in the championship who was the 6th seed and beat them by almost 30. This year, the JWU team is legit and the St. Joe and Lasell can play well at home. Plus the out of conference schedule is much stronger than that year. I think this team has a higher ceiling than the 2012 team (they had a 7-0 lead at Midd in the second run, lol). Now, this team could lose in the first round if they make the NCAAs... but, I think they have a higher ceiling.
PJ, Welcome back. I was wondering where you were all this time. Big game tomorrow against Lasell. They do present some interesting matchup problems especially with Clyde Niba who has been playing out of his mind recently. Being that the game is at home and the Falcons clearly have a much more polished team the edge goes clearly to the Falcons. Remember the game at Lasell earlier in the year. The Falcons could've easily won by 20 but unfortunately fell asleep in the second half on defense and werent able to completely pull away and Lasell made it a fairly close game late.
Nonetheless this is a good game and a good matchup with alot of familiarity and is a nice game to have late in the season as teams really begin to make the final push!!
Exactly my thoughts PJ! And is Albertus even big enough to host capacity wise? I know they've added seating for the GNAC Finals previously though. Is size even apart of the criteria?
I think Dave can give us a better insight on the criteria to host a NCAA weekend. I think Albertus would love to host... Despite the horrible fans, Albertus plays much better at home.
I do remember there is a distance criteria for playing in the first round, can't travel more than a certain number of miles... But, lots of basketball to be played before we think about that.
Big one tomorrow night...
I wouldn't call the albertus fans "horrible" lol. The place is packed. The student section is horrible I'll concur there
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 10, 2014, 10:09:15 PM
Good Lord, stop the presses!! Dave has finally placed Albertus Magnus in this top 25 Ballot. I only poke fun Dave 😜 and I must concur with everything that you said in your blog post about the Falcons. I think your description why you left them out so long is valid and accurate from a non biased and knowledgable perspective and I really hope that the Falcons can prove to you that they deserve the ranking.
Now onto a question that popped into my head once I read your post. You mentioned that the Falcons might have a shot at hosting the first round of the NCAA's. (if there fortunate enough to make it that is) Again i'm just trying to learn a little bit more about D3 as a whole and was curious as to how one is able to host an NCAA tournament round. My thought process on it was that you had to put in a bid in advance to get the spot but I'm starting to think that I might be wrong considering how games are played at schools that are in the tournament. Which leads me to believe that the schools arent picked until after the brackets are set?? Whats the criteria and timetable?? Any info would be much appreciated from anyone!!
Thanks!
Well thank you for reading the blog and understanding my point of view... I appreciate that.
As for hosting... first and foremost, anyone who is interested in hosting has to complete their paperwork which includes information on their facility and idea of a budget to the NCAA by this Friday, February 14. That is just the red-tape, but I can tell you countless stories of schools who do not put in the paperwork for varying reasons - or worse, screw up the paperwork - and their team is sent on the road when they clearly were the rightful ones to host.
How a team is selected to host is not nearly as cut and dry. First, they have to be highly ranked in the regional rankings. Unless you have a paperwork problem or a team can't host for whatever reasons (i.e. Ithaca last year rebuilding their gym, Wesley this year because their gym isn't even close enough in size to host, other places that are hosting other events), a team ranked say fifth in the regional rankings isn't going to automatically get a bid over teams ahead of them especially in the two three.
That all being said, geography plays a HUGE role and not necessarily where the school is located. The NCAA has a mandate to create four-team pods where teams travel no more than 500 miles to that destination. The 500-mile rule is important because any trip more than that triggers an automatic flight. The NCAA does NOT want to pay for a lot, or any, flights especially in the first weekend. There are going to be flights that have to be made for teams located on the west coast, Texas and even other locales like Colorado should they advance in the tournament (or even in the first round). There are also flights that need to happen to get teams to Salem and the final four... but the NCAA wants to limit those flights as much as possible and with budget concerns at the Indy office, flights are going to be even more regulated than we normally see.
As a result, if a school can host a tournament that gets three other teams to a location without a flight even if that school doesn't seem to be ranked high enough especially of that four-some, they will end up hosting.
Here is an example: several years ago, St. Mary's (#1 in Mid-Atlantic Region), Middlebury (#1 in Northeast Region), Rochester (#3 in East Region) and Buffalo State (ranking unimportant) ended up winning the first two rounds and were in the same pod for the second weekend. On paper, Middlebury actually held the advantage of hosting over St. Mary's, but it was pretty close - could have gone either way. However, to get St. Mary's to Middlebury or vis versa would have cost the NCAA a flight. Instead, all teams could bus to Rochester and not go over the 500 mile rule. Thus Rochester hosted the second weekend of games despite the fact they were no were close to deserving it by rank and primary criteria. This happens often and even happens in the first weekend when it just makes sense.
All of that being said, the first weekend does offer the most flexiability for the national committee, so we see quirky hosting chances less often (again, they usually come done to a red-tape thing gone ary). If Albertus Magnus is ranked high enough in the Northeast and has better criteria than the other teams in the first weekend pod... and they can get a nice mix of regions to Albertus Magnus without a flight... the Falcons could end up hosting. You can get Mid-Atlantic, Atlantic, East, Northeast, and even a couple of South Region teams to AMC by bus (Randolph-Macon traveled to WPI last year and then Amherst both by bus).
The key will be where is Albertus Magnus positioned in the rankings and what is their criteria compared to other teams when the brackets are put together. Another loss by AMC will make it hard to have that advantage since their SOS will be of no help. Also, schools like Purchase State, some of the NJACs, and others could get better criteria to bump off AMC. Also, AMC can easily be shipped into the regions I mentioned above if the committee feels they don't have better criteria than other teams.
Does that all make sense?
Coming down to the last 4 games. If AMC plays De, they will win easily. You have to respect Oliver and the job he has done since he's been at Albertus. I hope I'm wrong and they go all the way. I watched them live a couple of times. Talent is thru the roof. Coaching isn't a issue. Playoff time is 2 weeks away. Any rankings or seeding thoughts? Championship predictions?? If AMC wins out, can they move up in the national rankings?
I think they're kinda solidified in the national rankings unless something major happens. They may move up a couple spots if they hold serve and people around them falter but I don't think the voters are going to move them up with GNAC wins the rest of the way. The regional rankings however are the more important ones and I think they certainly have some room to move up there. After Amherst and Williams, it seems to be a logjam of teams (especially after WPIs 2 losses): Albertus, WPI, East Conn, Middlebury, Bowdoin, Babson, etc (in no order). If they win out the rest of the way I don't see how they could be lower than 5 and I'd imagine could get to 3 with impressive performances. That certainly would be the highest they've ever been regionally. Heck, when they went 28-2 they were still only 9th (24-1 at the time) in the last public rankings that year. We can dive into this deeper when the rankings are released tomorrow.
Quote from: FormerGNACplayer on February 11, 2014, 04:28:37 AM
Coming down to the last 4 games. If AMC plays De, they will win easily. You have to respect Oliver and the job he has done since he's been at Albertus. I hope I'm wrong and they go all the way. I watched them live a couple of times. Talent is thru the roof. Coaching isn't a issue. Playoff time is 2 weeks away. Any rankings or seeding thoughts? Championship predictions?? If AMC wins out, can they move up in the national rankings?
I'd put AMC in a pile with WPI, Eastern Connecticut, Bowdoin, Middlebury & Babson for the 3rd to 8th spots in the East. Each team has a case for and against each spot. Right now I'd probably say: AMC 3rd, WPI 4th, Babson 5th, Mid 6th, Bowdoin 7th & Eastern 8th, however, there's a pretty big drop off between 1 & 2 (Amherst & Williams) and the rest of the region, so even if they start out 3rd this week, their only likely to fall down the rankings than move up.
As for the championship I'd say AMC by 10 over J&W. Better off leaving it in their own hands, then letting the suits at NCAA decide it. AMC, WPI & Eastern all have gaudy records, but none of those 3 teams has beaten anyone of note. I think all 3 of them will probably make it in the end whether it be via the auto bid or pool C selection, but if all 3 lose in their conference tournament, I'd definitely take the other 2 from the SUNYAC (Brockport/Geneseo/or Plattsburgh) before I take a team from the Northeast this year
All I have to say is THERE BACKKKK!!! The team looked rejuvenated and as good as I've seen them play all year. Only stat line im going to touch on is Big Vic with 18 points 18 rebounds and 7 blocks. Monster game fr him.
I was really hoping that I wouldnt have to say this, but I'm starting to agree with you guys about the home crowd. What has happened?? You could hear a pin drop at some points during the game when Lasell had the ball. I'm going to put this one on the student section. I think it's their responsibility to get up and get the crowd going. And believe me there were plenty of students there tonight. I also think part of the blame is because we've become so accustomed to winning at home but this must change.
On to the next one!! Norwich up at Norwich on Saturday.
That's right junkie, they are back! With no Jennings may I add. Bench played awesome. Good to see we got it back and the st joes game just looks a lot worse then it is. Eian Davis is my fav player on this team. But foul trouble lately has his mins diminishing to the freshman. I mean Davis led the nation in assists just two weeks ago and hasn't had too many as of late. We need him to go back to his ways where he was dish first score second. But I'm nit picking, he's still my fav player to watch. He'll get his, but he has to realize what he can do by setting his teammates up makes albertus go. Junkie the student section flat out sucks. And no excuses for them lol, that wouldn't if stopes the student section of 05-11 lol they were always loud no matter what.
Dave,
WOW. thanks for the explanation. You make it so clear to understand the concepts of the NCAA torunament selection process. Thanks again for your respond. I think you made valid points. Albertus needs to keep winning and maybe they have a chance. They lose and if they win the tounament, they are traveling. Sounds good to me..
Hopefully they put paperwork in.... Albertus1 looks like you need to start a letter campagin to the AD...
7, I agree with all your points.. I think the three NESCAC will place top 3 in first regional rankings, followed by Albertus, WPI, Babson/Springfield and Eastern.. Albertus can only fall, won't go up unless Williams losses a bad game before the semi-finals. Albertus just needs to win... Magic number is 2 to clinch home court. They've played well at home and hopefully the athmosphere for the playoffs is different than what it has been.
I'm nicknaming the team Dunk Haven!! What do you guys thing?
First it was Lob City - Clippers
Then it was Dunk City - Florida Gulf Coast last year
and....
Now...
DUNK HAVEN BABY!!!
Let's go fellas!
GNAC, team played very well tonight. Defense was much improved, bench played very well. The only thing that worries me is Wiggins is still off - 3-9 from long range.. He really needs to 4 for 7 to be able to stretch the defense consistently.
But, overall, they have been playing well on both ends - last two wins were by a combined 65 points.
Anyone know why Jennings didn't play tonight? Hopefully it's not an injury. He seemed to be moving around well in warm-ups but was in street clothes. Perhaps maybe it was just some type of violation of a team rule??
Either way let's hope he is back Saturday.
He was banged up, would have played if it was a playoff game. He also sat out the first few games this year with a leg injury. Coach Oliver was probably playing it safe.
Has Davis really been getting into foul trouble lately? That seems a bit troubling to me. Every time I turned the game on Jackson was running the point. Because there aren't live stats I thought he wasn't even playing!
And is there any rule against a school putting in the paperwork to host at a facility that isn't on their campus? If Albertus really wanted it, but say they were too small, could they put in to host at Hillhouse for example? It's probably the premier basketball/indoor track facility in CT and it's right down the road. Albertus holds 600 (probably a little more with the extra seating they add) while Hillhouse's facility holds 3500.
If they play defense like that, I take back everything I said ! Hahaha wow. Victor was blocking shots everywhere and they were great on D! No one will beat them. Larsen looked good , they can go inside, they can go outside, they can go deep into the bench... Oliver is a great coach, can't say it enough. Just as things were looking to fall, he picked them up. Great job to him.. I think I saw the old player Reaves who hit the half court shot on Albertus bench. That's cool. Anyways. JWU is improving, I love them as a team. They won't, but if they were able to get into NCAA, they could surprise somebody, potentially. Falcons and JWU in the chip for me.. That will be a great one but when Albertus plays like that, NO ONE, is more dangerous and more talented.
And yes please, help the fans. Its bad
Final Score : ST Joe 78 / Emmanuel 67
The Saints lost their ninth consecutive home game last night against a very impressive St Joe team. The game was a battle of complete opposites. St Joe is patient on offense, reverse the ball several times, ALWAYS make the extra pass to find the open man , and then finish the play by making shots, 55% for the game. A very unselfish team, 27 field goals on 20 assists. The Saints dribble over half court, make one pass, and jack up a quick shot with 25 seconds left on the shot clock, 27 field goals on 9 assists. St Joe ran their motion offense like a clinic last night. Every time the weak side cutter approached the screen at the elbow, the cutter would reject the screen and run a Princeton type back cut to the basket. The screener would then step out to the arc and knock down a 3 point shot. I kept wondering how long it would take the Saints defenders ( or their coaches
) to realize that St Joe was not running this play for the back cut at all, they just wanted the screeners defender to hedge towards the basket for just one step so the screener could step out for an open 3 point shot. St Joe knocked down four 3 point shots off this play in the first ten minutes of the game and finished the night with 10 three point field goals. The Monks moved the ball from wing to wing quickly, they also look to skip the ball from the low post to the opposite wing, and at the end of all that passing they knock down open shots. Their passing and shooting made the Saints man to man defense look like swiss cheese.
I know that the supporters of AMC and J&W think that the GNAC is a two team race for the championship, but I was very impressed with the poise, the ball movement, the unselfish play, and the shooting touch of the ST Joe Monks. Like Larry Brown is fond of saying, "they play the game the right way". I would not like to play them on the first round of the playoffs. They are not long, not athletic, don't have great foot speed, not great rebounders, but they play like a team that doesn't care who scores as long as they win the game. I think that St Joe will make the GNAC playoffs very interesting. St Joe plays the game the way that I would like to see the Saints play, but that has no chance of happening this year.
Quote from: lildave678 on February 12, 2014, 09:10:50 AM
Has Davis really been getting into foul trouble lately? That seems a bit troubling to me. Every time I turned the game on Jackson was running the point. Because there aren't live stats I thought he wasn't even playing!
And is there any rule against a school putting in the paperwork to host at a facility that isn't on their campus? If Albertus really wanted it, but say they were too small, could they put in to host at Hillhouse for example? It's probably the premier basketball/indoor track facility in CT and it's right down the road. Albertus holds 600 (probably a little more with the extra seating they add) while Hillhouse's facility holds 3500.
you mean at the gym where a 14 year old kid was shot a few weeks ago? No thanks.
I've been there plenty of times with no issues. I'd imagine it was high school/gang related. With two teams that aren't connected to the school there wouldn't be any issues at all.
The shooting was absolutely gang related. New Haven, unfortunately, has the second highest crime rate in the nation of cities with less then 200k people. Only flint has a higher rate. Albertus' gym also sits on one of the worst streets in new haven, Winchester avenue. But there is never any problems with attending games. Like anywhere you go now a days there is always that what if. Unfortunately it's the world we live in. But I think it's a great idea Dave, the fieldhouse is a great facility and would make a great host imo. If anything the security has been higher since that incident. It was an isolated incident
Great points everyone, let's not forget about AlbertUs NCAA game couple years ago against William Paterson. No disrespect to William Paterson but on our way my family and I drove through one of the most uneasy neighborhoods that I've ever driven through. Paterson New Jersey is one of the worst cities in America when it comes to crime rate and murders per capita (just watch Victor Cruz interview from last season on Paterson NJ). The gym and university was beautiful really, but the neighborhoods around it were tough to say the least.
I'm just saying all this because as mentioned, it is like this in almost every major city now. No matter where you go you're always going to take a chance. I think having a game at Hillhouse if possible would be a great and we should not let this one single isolated incident change that.
Yes junkie, in fact Paterson sits 9th on the list I mentioned. New Haven 2nd. Like I said, anywhere now a days has it's own dangers.
JWU and st joes present a real challenge to albertus for the gnac title. Like any conference these coaches know each other like the back of their hands. That's why I think albertus can throw fits in the tourney if they make it. Even with film avl now a days I don't think any coach can prepare for albertus as good as a JWU or st joes, and vice versa. They know each other too well
Quote from: lildave678 on February 12, 2014, 09:10:50 AM
Has Davis really been getting into foul trouble lately? That seems a bit troubling to me. Every time I turned the game on Jackson was running the point. Because there aren't live stats I thought he wasn't even playing!
And is there any rule against a school putting in the paperwork to host at a facility that isn't on their campus? If Albertus really wanted it, but say they were too small, could they put in to host at Hillhouse for example? It's probably the premier basketball/indoor track facility in CT and it's right down the road. Albertus holds 600 (probably a little more with the extra seating they add) while Hillhouse's facility holds 3500.
I don't think they could play at high schools. Different 3 point lines, and CT doesn't have a shot clock in college unlike most states like NY does.
Makes sense...then uhhh, see when Yale's done using their gym :P
NOOO.. LET'S HAVE IT AT THE NEST!!! Falcons have won 38 or maybe 39 straight home games (last lost was against Medgar Evers on the buzzer beater in 2012; my boy GNAC fan was front row). Longest current streak in NCAA (men or women at any level)!
DUNK HAVEN!!!
Yeah... you have to have a gymnasium that fits NCAA rules and regs. That will be the first way to have your paperwork unapproved.
Oh absolutely I'd love to have it there! Just spitballing in case size became an issue...
I'm not going to comment on the regional rankings. I've been reading all the posts on the Ranking the Northeast thread and they all contain really good information which I've looked at thoroughly and that's good enough for me. I don't need to go into a full on rant and rave into my own opinion because most of my thoughts echo the majority of Albertus supporters.
Instead it's time to keep winning! Because in the end that's all it comes down to. This team will make their own destiny. It is up to them to prove everybody wrong. And the only way to do that is to win the conference championship and then put on a showing in the NCAA tournament. Make voters regret their decision and step up and win every game from here on out. That is the only way you can get ultimate respect!
People complain about the Amherst and Williams and UW's of the world saying that they have it too easy because of their past history. I am not one of them. These teams you hear of year in and year out have earned the honor to be consitently in the top 25 and in the tops of their regions because every year they do the only thing that matters and that's win basketball games on the big stage (NCAA).
The players look at these rankings just as much as we do. And I know for a fact that the Falcons are pissed off. They feel they deserve more respect. Coach Oliver will have these guys ready. It's time to go out there and earn it!!
You're right Junkie, just win on the court and the rest takes care of itself.
But, JWU should be ranked higher than RIC. JWU is so much better than RIC. I know the head to head doesn't matter as much, and other issues. But, I think even the LEC posters would say that RIC doesn't have a "good" team for their standards this year. JWU is a better team than RIC. I use the old eye test, any coach that has watched these two teams plays the last 15 games would agree with that statement.
Quote from: pjunito on February 13, 2014, 09:48:47 PM
You're right Junkie, just win on the court and the rest takes care of itself.
But, JWU should be ranked higher than RIC. JWU is so much better than RIC. I know the head to head doesn't matter as much, and other issues. But, I think even the LEC posters would say that RIC doesn't have a "good" team for their standards this year. JWU is a better team than RIC. I use the old eye test, any coach that has watched these two teams plays the last 15 games would agree with that statement.
RIC sucks this year. They should be nowhere near the NE rankings.
Any word on today's game since it's scheduled for 3? Maybe it gets moved up? Or is the shore not supposed to get as much?
Trumbulls only supposed to get 2-4, so I'd say New Haven is about the same.
Game still at 3 according to website. Im sure the team left really early this morning because the Womens game is before hand at 1 plus its a pretty lengthy ride up to Norwich. Seems to me like the bus ride home might be the bigger issue for te Falcons.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 15, 2014, 12:56:47 PM
Game still at 3 according to website. Im sure the team left really early this morning because the Womens game is before hand at 1 plus its a pretty lengthy ride up to Norwich. Seems to me like the bus ride home might be the bigger issue for te Falcons.
They probably left last night. I know when Western travels to Plymouth & USM, they leave the night before since the women play at 1 PM, and since I think Norwich is roughly the same distance, they probably did the same thing.
From my sporting experience, Albertus refuses to do overnights lol. In 5 seasons of soccer we never did it.
Unfortunately Albertus doesn't do overnights. It's a shame really because it would make it that much easier on the players but of course "money" is the issue with a move like that. The school would never go for it. Really a shame.
I know the economy is tough right now, and the best part about Falcon games are that they're free. But I don't understand why Albertus doesn't set up a table at the front entrance and don't even call an admission just call a donation. Say 1 dollar. They laverhe close to 600 700 people a game and im sure that A good majority of the fans would donate a dollar at most home games. Imagine what they can do with that money for the program after just one season. First thing that comes to mind for me would be a brand-new speaker system because the one they have now is AWFUL!! They would just be able to make so many nice new improvements and really improved the entire atmosphere of the Nest.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 15, 2014, 02:43:27 PM
Unfortunately Albertus doesn't do overnights. It's a shame really because it would make it that much easier on the players but of course "money" is the issue with a move like that. The school would never go for it. Really a shame.
Unless you're in the CUNY where all schools are 20 miles from one another OR are centrally located in a conference like Emmanuel in the GNAC or Umass-Boston in the LEC I don't see why you wouldn't overnight since there;s at least 1 outlier in conference and usually multiple (I mean, look at the SUNY, half of that league is an outlier from the other). Hell, I mean look at the Stevens. The E8 plays back-to-back so they have to stay nights, but when my sister played soccer there I think EVERY road game save for maybe Hartwick was an overnight trip for them. Driving 10 hours in 1 day to St. Joes-Maine and Norwich makes absolutely NO sense.
And to edit, this falls on the coach to some regard. I know someone who played @ Western some 4 or 5 years ago when Dartmouth was one of the better teams in the league, they used to overnight there too (only about a 3 hour trip) and to Keene too (about 2.5 hours). I know the economy is tough as Junkie said, but if you have a top 50 team like AMC is, in a 1 bid league like the GNAC is, you give your team the best advantage you can. If it means fundraising at fall events, so they can afford a super 8 in Standish, ME than so-be-it. They may not have beaten the Monks anyway, but the game is probably a whole helluva lot closer if AMC was able to get fresher legs, by staying the night in New Hampshire or Maine, and didn't play a huge conference game 2.5 hours after stepping foot off a bus they were sitting on for 5 hours.
15 point win certainly isn't all that impressive but doing it on the road while Darius only scores 5 points, I'll take it
Lol Dave I hear you, but we are spoiled. 15 point conference win on the road has to have some merit to it. Norwich has taken JWU to the wire
Quote from: 7express on February 15, 2014, 02:58:31 PM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 15, 2014, 02:43:27 PM
Unfortunately Albertus doesn't do overnights. It's a shame really because it would make it that much easier on the players but of course "money" is the issue with a move like that. The school would never go for it. Really a shame.
Unless you're in the CUNY where all schools are 20 miles from one another OR are centrally located in a conference like Emmanuel in the GNAC or Umass-Boston in the LEC I don't see why you wouldn't overnight since there;s at least 1 outlier in conference and usually multiple (I mean, look at the SUNY, half of that league is an outlier from the other). Hell, I mean look at the Stevens. The E8 plays back-to-back so they have to stay nights, but when my sister played soccer there I think EVERY road game save for maybe Hartwick was an overnight trip for them. Driving 10 hours in 1 day to St. Joes-Maine and Norwich makes absolutely NO sense.
And to edit, this falls on the coach to some regard. I know someone who played @ Western some 4 or 5 years ago when Dartmouth was one of the better teams in the league, they used to overnight there too (only about a 3 hour trip) and to Keene too (about 2.5 hours). I know the economy is tough as Junkie said, but if you have a top 50 team like AMC is, in a 1 bid league like the GNAC is, you give your team the best advantage you can. If it means fundraising at fall events, so they can afford a super 8 in Standish, ME than so-be-it. They may not have beaten the Monks anyway, but the game is probably a whole helluva lot closer if AMC was able to get fresher legs, by staying the night in New Hampshire or Maine, and didn't play a huge conference game 2.5 hours after stepping foot off a bus they were sitting on for 5 hours.
7, you make valid points... But, you are assuming that they are able to keep any fundraising money. lol. Trust me, not always easy to make sense at Albertus... I'll leave it at that.
Good win for the falcons! Vic was a monster. Walker played solid and made key free throws.
JWU squeaks by - 108-41 vs Mt. Ida.
St. Joe's, Emmanual, and Lasell all win.
Nice win today by the Falcons! I was able to catch most of the game on the computer. Nothing flashy nothing outstanding but they went in on the road and got the job done. Vic was an absolute beast and Eian had a quiet 19 point 7 assists 0 TO game. And as mentioned, Darius only have 5 points. While Darius's point production has been down the last couple games he has done an excellent job at finding his open teammates (Especially Vic underneath) when he penetrates to the hole. What's absolutely scary about this team is that he can have a game like that and they can still pull off an impressive victory because of the caliber team that Oliver has this year.
To 7, PJ makes and excellent point about Albertus and the fundraising. I know almost for certain that Oliver has pushed to use the "donation" technique to raise money and the University chooses not to go for it. As PJ mentioned things are not always as easy as they should seem at Albertus and we really should leave it at that.
Final Score : Emmanuel 67 / Rivier 62
The Saints played a tight 2 - 3 zone, did not press , and did not run fast breaks, and escaped with a nice 5 point win. Rivier is not very athletic, does not have great foot speed , and is not big in the lane, so it made sense to play a collapsing zone against them. It was a good comeback win since the Saints did not score for the first five minutes of the game. Not sure why it took 23 games this year to figure out that this is their best game plan and gives their players the best chance to stay close and steal a win in the last few minutes of the game. It was the Saints first win on their home court all year.
Saints Roster Watch : with 2 games left in the season the Saints SID finally updated their second semester roster. The two additioinal players who went missing in December are now accounted for. The freshman point guard who started games in the first semester is no longer listed on the roster and has left the team. The other missing player, a junior college transfer, who played in the first semester is still listed on the roster and is suddenly back in uniform on the bench and presumably able to play the last two games if needed. The Saints maintainence man should replace the locker room door with one of those department store revolving doors to accomadate all the roster changes that take place in this program during the year.
Entering the last week of the regular season and the game of the year in the GNAC is happening tomorrow night. As Albertus visits JWU in Providence. This should be a great game, the first one went down to the wire and we could see that again tomorrow. JWU has been destroying teams lately, winning by 23, 24, 29, and 68. This team is hitting on all cyclinders. Albertus still has not clinched home court. And will need to understand that they need to impress the regional committee next week (2-26-14).
There are only two seeds that are a lock...
#4 Lasell and # 7 Rivier... Every other seed has not been determined yet.
As PJ mentioned, tonight's matchup between Albertus and Johnson and Wales is hands-down the biggest regular-season GNAC game of the year. This is going to be a fun one to watch. Even with the current weather, all signs point to the game remaining as is and starting at 7:00 PM.
This has always been a tough place for the Falcons to play. Anyone who has followed the program the last few years can tell you that. Huge implications for both teams in regards to conference standings and a big game for the regional rankings committee to evaluate. I know the Falcons feel they should be higher, and I must say that I feel Johnson and Whales should certainly be a top 10 team in the region. I'm sure the Wildcats feel a little disrespected as well.
Anyone traveling tonight? JWU provides an excellent wencast as well with full play by play commentary.
So, if J&W wins and assuming AMC, J&W and SJME all win Saturday, how are the top 3 decided??
The GNAC has no official tie breakers on their website; but from what I remember. Tie breakers in split situations (which will happen if Albertus, JWU, and St. Joe's all finished tied) is determined by best overall record. Which means Albertus #1 seed, followed by JWU and St. Joe's.
St. Joe's game has been cancelled for tonight, they play host to Anna Maria tomorrow night, travel to Mt. Ida on Thursday, and then travel to Lasell on Saturday. 3 games in 4 days for a team that doesn't have a lot of depht. Lasell is going to be a tough game for them, I can see them struggling if they have tired legs.
Albertus clinches the #1 seed with an impressive 96-81 win at JWU.
Everyone played well, Lersen is such a good player and a key to the team. Jennings hit three 3s in a row. Vic is the Player of the Year in my opinion, he is just amazing, 24 pts 14 rebounds, and 6 blocks! Davis had 14 assist. Watson had 19 but didn't score until 6 mins left in first half. Wiggins and Wilson had a good game off the bench, Wilson in first and Wiggins in second.
Hats off to the guys who called the game. They did a great job!
If St. Joe's win's out, they have the 2 seed and JWU 3.
What a game tonight!! I'm going to use the term "HEAT CHECK" victory for this one. Overall just a tremendous performance by the Falcons in all aspects of the game. In a game with such high implications on the line the Falcons and Coach Oliver really stepped up and delivered a big time!!
I'm not going to get into individual stats because it too late and work comes early in the morning (and yes I traveled to the game tonight.....I just had too) Check Vics stat line. He was a beast. James made some huge three pointers which looked like he got his stroke back and just as Johnson and Whales looked like they might have gone on a little bit of a run Darius Watson knocked down a monster three pointer that just took the home crowd completely out of the game for the final 9 minutes.
I really hope that the Falcons can keep there emotions in check though as the rest of the season unfolds. They are all so emotional from the players to Coach Oliver but they had a few Technicals that really should have been avoided. While some of the T's were questionable, they still have got to do a better job at controlling there emotions and keeping their absolute focus on the game. If they do that I really think they can beat any team in the country. YES I said COUNTRY!!
They must remain focused with there final home game and senior day coming up on Saturday against a surging Emmanuel team. If I am not mistaken Darius is 9 points away from 2000 for his career and what an accomplishment that would be to achieve on Senior Day!!
The road to the GNAC Championship runs through New Haven baby!!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 18, 2014, 11:25:42 PM
What a game tonight!! I'm going to use the term "HEAT CHECK" victory for this one. Overall just a tremendous performance by the Falcons in all aspects of the game. In a game with such high implications on the line the Falcons and Coach Oliver really stepped up and delivered a big time!!
I'm not going to get into individual stats because it too late and work comes early in the morning (and yes I traveled to the game tonight.....I just had too) Check Vics stat line. He was a beast. James made some huge three pointers which looked like he got his stroke back and just as Johnson and Whales looked like they might have gone on a little bit of a run Darius Watson knocked down a monster three pointer that just took the home crowd completely out of the game for the final 9 minutes.
I really hope that the Falcons can keep there emotions in check though as the rest of the season unfolds. They are all so emotional from the players to Coach Oliver but they had a few Technicals that really should have been avoided. While some of the T's were questionable, they still have got to do a better job at controlling there emotions and keeping their absolute focus on the game. If they do that I really think they can beat any team in the country. YES I said COUNTRY!!
They must remain focused with there final home game and senior day coming up on Saturday against a surging Emmanuel team. If I am not mistaken Darius is 9 points away from 2000 for his career and what an accomplishment that would be to achieve on Senior Day!!
The road to the GNAC Championship runs through New Haven baby!!
Albertus write-up says he's just 1 point away from 2000.
Any comments on the first half? They were down 1 and gave up a 50 spot. Great to see them lockdown and only give up 31 in the 2nd half on the road in the biggest GNAC game of the season. Did they make any adjustments, play harder, or was JWU just lights out in the first half...or a combo of all 3 haha?
Also of note regarding Vic, after that St. Joe's game he tweeted, "Losing alone is a hard thing to explain but having my family asking me why I only took 3 shots is even harder to explain smh." He went 1-3 in that game with 5 points and I took notice when I saw the tweet. Well, guess what? Like D3 said he's been a BEAST ever since. In the 5 games after:
13 points, 10 rebs, 5 assts, 5 blocks
26 points, 11 rebs, 5 assts, 4 blocks
18 points, 18 rebs, 4 assts, 7 blocks
26 points, 14 rebs, 1 block
24 points, 14 rebs, 6 blocks
He's never taken less than 10 shots and is shooting 60.5% from the field in that span. Hopefully he keeps it up!
And anyone who didn't get a chance to watch it (AKA me!) JWU has the games archived. Link here:
http://www.ezstream.com/play/index.cfm?fuseaction=embstay&id=421D8DCFBC&dsplvl=affil&org=EZ (http://www.ezstream.com/play/index.cfm?fuseaction=embstay&id=421D8DCFBC&dsplvl=affil&org=EZ)
This will get me through to the USA Hockey game at noon ;D
EDIT: Since no one responded after me while watching, I just wrote down some notes while I watched. Feel free to comment, agree, disagree, whatever...
Darius seemed to get frustrated early on in the first half. He had a couple traveling calls and missed his first few shots. He then hit back to back 3 pointers and got T'd up for jawing with the JWU coach/bench. D3, were you close enough to hear if he deserved it?
Love the way they took control in the 2nd half early. Couple big 3's by Jennings (though he picked up his 4th foul right after) and then a 3 by Vic pushed the lead to 10. Glad to see the lead never got to less than 8 down the stretch.
The 3 Darius hit after the Touze dunk was BIG. Took the crowd right back out of it.
Eian Davis was not good from the FT line. When he can get to the rack like he does, that's a definite issue.
Wow Wiggins hit a sick step back J with about 5 to go and he played awesome. Hopefully this gives him more confidence moving forward into tourney time.
Loved the announcers giving a lot of love to my fellow Waterburian Lemar. He really is the glue to the team who does all the little things that aren't necessarily in the box score.
LilDave,
My math was off (Not suprised with myself there) Darius is 1 point shy of 2000. What an accomplishment.
First half was very back and forth and Albertus struggled a bit out of the gate and also had some really unfortunate and head scratching fouls that put the Wildcats to the line where they converted for a high percentage. It was a battle, the JWU crowd was as rowdy as they have ever been and the Falcons just struggled adapting a bit in the early going. I must point out that Marc Wilson came off the bench in the 1st half when Darius picked up his 3rd foul and really did a superb job of filling the void and do his part both offensively and defensively. He also had a great shot at the buzzer to the end the first half and cut the lead to 1 instead what would have been 3.
I would say it was a combo of the three in the second half. Albertus came out in the 2nd half and did a much better job defensively. They contested shots and really did a good job with the dribble penetration of the JWU guards. I feel the turning point for the Falcons was the rebounding. They did not do a good job in the 1st half of rebounding but in the second they were excellent (Specifically Lemar and Vic) and were even better on the offensive boards.
Vic has been an absolute animal. You can tell both himself ad Eian Davis really appreciate and love the game. Not saying the other guys don't because I know they do but those two specifically seem like they play with a chip on their shoulders and love every minute of it. Eian had 14 assists too!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS!! His game last night was like a John Stockton stat line. Right now I have to agree with PJ and say that if the season ended today Vic should be the conference POY but we still have the GNAC tournament to go and at the NEST we all know Darius can light the nets on fire.
Looking forward to Saturday and the upcoming GNAC tourney. It should be a fun one.
What a win gentleman! JWU is no slouch of a team, and as i have said before i think they are a top 10 team in the region. I just think this yrs team from albertus is special. Vic is the gnat player of the yr in my opinion. When we are clicking like we did in the send half we can beat anyone. The play by play guy for JWU is phenomenal. The color commentator i didn't care so much for to be honest lol. I know home broadcasters are going to be homers, but to hear the color guy cry about every foul called against jwu, and then when you hear him say "rebound rebound rebound" on an albertus miss its a bit much. The play by play guy was great and kept it at a certain level the homerism. but what a win
Video Replay : AMC / JWU
Just watched the reply of the AMC/JWU game. What a pleasure to see two teams play straight up man to man defense and actually be able to limit dribble penetration to the rim. Also, I really appreciated how the perimeter defenders closed out hard, with hands high on shooters, even the 3 point shooters were contested in this game. The second thing that I thought stood out in this game was how both teams came across half court and immediately reversed the ball through the top of the key, so they could set up weak side defenders for back screens and down screens. I think that is a sign of two well coached teams. Even though I like the ST Joe team a lot, love their unselfish style of play, I am sure that these two teams will meet for a third time in the conference championship game. They play hard at both ends of the court. Really enjoyed watching this college game.
My one criticism of JWU in this game was that their flex offense was not being run sharply enough. I thought that too many times they set weak downscreens in their flex. It looked like they were setting the screens on spots on the floor rather than on the defenders. I am sure that AMC had them scouted and knew the downscreens were coming but I still did not see any relocations on the part of the JWU downscreeners, I thought they gave up on the flex play a little too soon. Overall, a very hard fought, and well played game. I also thought that this was a very well officiated game. The players were allowed to play tough man defense without ticky tack fouls effecting the rotations and substitutions.
Thanks SP for the unbiased words on the game!
Awesome breakdown Saint!
Preview : Emmanuel / AMC
Under ordinary circumstances I would say that when a lower ranked conference team plays the higher ranked team in the conference the lower ranked team sees the game as a challenge and gets really " up " for the game and gives the higher ranked team a very competitive game. The lower ranked team has nothing to lose, plays hard , and tries to knock off the top ranked team to salvage their season. I looked at some scores around the country last week and saw that Baptist Bible ( 5-18 ) just beat #2 Cabrini by just playing harder at both ends of the floor. However, For the Saints to get up for this game, the coach would have to change his game plan from run and gun to one that makes sense, something he has rarely done this year. His traditional game plan of full court man to man pressing puts the Saints in such a hole to start the games, especially against good teams, that it saps all the strength and competitiveness out of the Saints players and they end up just running through the motions for most of the game. AMC is athletic, good at getting to the rim off the dribble, good at isolation plays on the low past, and good at open floor transition plays both for 3 point shots and for getting to the rim. So why not take those strengths away from them by sprinting back on defense and clogging driving lanes with a tight zone, getting good defensive rebounding position, walking the ball up the floor, controlling tempo, and getting good offensive possessions every time down court. Keeping the game close and trying to hit a few 3 pointers in the last two minutes and steal a big win. That is not going to happen. Every time the Saints play a big, strong, athletic team, they try to press and run with them. I guess being macho is more important than giving your players the best opportunity to win the game. When the Saints play their open floor run and gun style of basketball the game is usually over by the first 10 minutes of the first half. If the Saints play a cautious, slow paced, tight zoned defense I would be very surprised. When you play run and gun and find yourselves down 15 - 2 three minutes into the game it demoralizes the whole team and sets a bad tone for the rest of the game. We shall see what game plan the Saints open up with on Saturday.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on February 20, 2014, 08:41:28 AM
Preview : Emmanuel / AMC
Under ordinary circumstances I would say that when a lower ranked conference team plays the higher ranked team in the conference the lower ranked team sees the game as a challenge and gets really " up " for the game and gives the higher ranked team a very competitive game. The lower ranked team has nothing to lose, plays hard , and tries to knock off the top ranked team to salvage their season. I looked at some scores around the country last week and saw that Baptist Bible ( 5-18 ) just beat #2 Cabrini by just playing harder at both ends of the floor. However, For the Saints to get up for this game, the coach would have to change his game plan from run and gun to one that makes sense, something he has rarely done this year. His traditional game plan of full court man to man pressing puts the Saints in such a hole to start the games, especially against good teams, that it saps all the strength and competitiveness out of the Saints players and they end up just running through the motions for most of the game. AMC is athletic, good at getting to the rim off the dribble, good at isolation plays on the low past, and good at open floor transition plays both for 3 point shots and for getting to the rim. So why not take those strengths away from them by sprinting back on defense and clogging driving lanes with a tight zone, getting good defensive rebounding position, walking the ball up the floor, controlling tempo, and getting good offensive possessions every time down court. Keeping the game close and trying to hit a few 3 pointers in the last two minutes and steal a big win. That is not going to happen. Every time the Saints play a big, strong, athletic team, they try to press and run with them. I guess being macho is more important than giving your players the best opportunity to win the game. When the Saints play their open floor run and gun style of basketball the game is usually over by the first 10 minutes of the first half. If the Saints play a cautious, slow paced, tight zoned defense I would be very surprised. When you play run and gun and find yourselves down 15 - 2 three minutes into the game it demoralizes the whole team and sets a bad tone for the rest of the game. We shall see what game plan the Saints open up with on Saturday.
LOL +1 for you. Your game previews are great.
Saint, you have a done a great job with the previews and breakdown all year long. If Emmanuel wants a chance at the playoffs, they have to win on Saturday.
I hope this will get a team "up" as well and make the coaches game plan to win the game. Look at the St. Joe's win. They slowed the Flacons down, not by their defense, but by their offense and using smart fouls. St. Joe's hit their shots, forcing Albertus to take the ball out, and foul every time Albertus came over the half court line with numbers. They didn't allow Albertus to get easy baskets early, Albertus missed free throw, St. Joe's hit all their open looks, and when Albertus fell down by double digits, they became a team that heaved 3s instead of running their offense and trying to get basketballs in the post.
So the first four seeds have been locked up.
1. Albertus
2. St. Joes
3. JWU
4. Lasell
These teams will host quarterfinal action on Tuesday night.
As for who wants to travel to play these teams.. Well, that hasn't been decide yet. I don't know all of the tie breakers.. But,
currently, Emmanuel is the 8th seed, Suffolk 7th, Rivier 6th, and Anna Maria 5th... But, Emmanuel travels to Albertus this Saturday and Norwich travels to Suffolk. Norwich could win and Emmanuel could lose. At that point, I don't know who the the 8th seed would be. Anna Maria plays Rivier - If Rivier wins, they move to the 5 seed and Anna Maria plays JWU. Big game on Saturday, because I would rather play at Lasell then at JWU. Mt. Ida needs a miracle to to make the playoffs, and Suffolk could end as the 6th seed if they win and Riv losses.. So, lots to watch on Saturday.
PJ, you should start the GNAC tournament over on the conference tournament thread on the national board, otherwise I'm going to steal it ;D
lol... I was waiting for you or Hoopsfan to steal it. lol...
I didn't want to post until all the seeding was final, didn't want to confuse anyone.. But, I guess I can copy and paste what I just wrote onto that thread, then update on Sunday.
Quote from: pjunito on February 20, 2014, 10:25:12 PM
lol... I was waiting for you or Hoopsfan to steal it. lol...
I didn't want to post until all the seeding was final, didn't want to confuse anyone.. But, I guess I can copy and paste what I just wrote onto that thread, then update on Sunday.
That's what I do. As long as I can find at least 1 team that's in it, I'll post that and than update the rest later. Like I did with the Liberty League. Hobart clinched the 1 seed, and the rest of the 4 team pile is a complete logjam, so after the season ends Saturday, I can update that message with the other 3 teams.
Nice work pj & 7!
Hello All,
The last game of the year is here and I am doing my predictions for post-season awards:
GNAC Player of the Year: Victor Ljuljdjuraj - Albertus
GNAC Rookie of the Year: James Sullivan – Emmanuel
GNAC Defensive player of the year: Victor Ljuljdjuraji – Albertus
GNAC Coach of the year: Mitch Oliver – Albertus
First Team
C – Victor Ljuljdjuraj – Albertus
F – Nick Jobin – St. Joes
F – Darius Watson -Albertus
G – Quarry Greenway – JWU
G – Eian Davis – Albertus
Second Team
F – Clyde Niba - Lasell
F – Tom Poitras – Rivier
F – Esaie Touze – JWU
G – Matt Medeiros – St. Joes
G – Brandon Ganesh - Lasell
Third Team
F – Nick Walch – Rivier
F – Lamar Lersen - Albertus
G – Sam Nwadike – Suffolk
G – Robert Lewis – JWU
G – Tom McDonald – Norwich
Excellent predictions PJ, since you started it I figured I might as well throw mine up so here's my best shot.
GNAC Player of the Year: Darius Watson- Albertus - Quick Explanation, I know I said that right now Vic would be my POY but I just think Darius is going to catch fire in the tourney at home. He is also the conferences leading scoring and one of the tops in 3PT%. I just think that when it comes down to it the GNAC committee is going to vote for Darius because he is a senior leader on the best team in the conference and he got royally screwed out of the honor last year. Both absolutely deserving but for arguments sake I am taking Mr. Watson
GNAC Rookie of the Year: James Sullivan – Emmanuel - No argument here, I really like this kid. A bit undersized for what they use him for but he is a grinder
GNAC Defensive player of the year: Victor Ljuljdjuraji – Albertus- It cant be anyone else really
GNAC Coach of the year: Mitch Oliver – Albertus
First Team
C – Victor Ljuljdjuraj – Albertus
F – Clyde Niba - Lasell
F – Darius Watson -Albertus
G – Quarry Greenway – JWU
G – Eian Davis – Albertus
Second Team
F – Nick Jobin – St. Joes
F – Tom Poitras – Rivier
F – Esaie Touze – JWU
G – Matt Medeiros – St. Joes
G – Brandon Ganesh - Lasell
Third Team
F – Nick Walch – Rivier
F – Quantez Franklin - Anna Maria
G – Sam Nwadike – Suffolk
G – Curtis Lucas– JWU
G – Tom McDonald – Norwich
Boy were there some tough guys to leave off this list. But I had to go with my gut an for the most part I agree with PJ. Almost identical with the exception of a few and I also agree with going forward heavy and then guard heavy for the 2nd and 3rd teams. Just so much depth throughout the league. It was tough for me to leave Robert Lewis off but I feel that his teammate Curtis Lucas has had a really stellar career and even though I am an Albertus supporter (which means I HATE JWU) I like to think I recognize hard work and progression from start to finish. Curtis is a senior on a very talented team and he is one of the few players that I have followed closely not related to Albertus over the last 4 years and his game has grown leaps and bounds since when he started at JWU. I think that needs to be rewarded and I bet if you ask his teammate Rob Lewis, he would agree with me. Rob is a sophomore and will no doubt be on my list next season.
Also PJ, Even though it killed me, I had to leave Lemar off because when I looked at the whole body of work with a guy like Quantez Franklin, I feel his consistency and his ability to play well in big games (specifically against Albertus) swayed my opinion in his favor. He is a worker very similar to Lemar but for me, he gets the nod.
Also, my first team, you give me that starting 5 against any other 1st team conference starting 5 and I really like my chances. People like to hate on the GNAC but this conference is loaded with talent on many teams, I don't care how you look at it.
Awesome idea PJ, maybe GNAC or LilDave, Saint or Former will also fill one out just for the threads sake.
Some very important games in the GNAC this afternoon. Todays games will determine the conference tournament seeding's. Most teams have something on the line as seeds 5 through 8 wont be official until after today. The biggest game of the day is St. Joes and Lasell. If St Joes is able to win, then they would rack up the 2 seed. If they fall, then JWU would grab the 2 seed and bump St. Joes to 3.
Some very interesting story lines. It is one of those days where coaches and players are looking at how they would setup in the 1st round and who they want to try and avoid.
Here is the slate of games!
Anna Maria @ Rivier - 1:00 PM
Saint Joseph's @ Lasell - 3:00 PM
Emmanuel @ Albertus Magnus - 3:00 PM
Johnson & Wales @ Mount Ida - 3:00 PM
Norwich @ Suffolk - 3:00 PM
Junkie,
I think St. Joe's already clinched the 2 seed. JWU already has 3 conference losses. And St. Joe has the tie breaker (overall record). So, either way, they own the 2 seed. Unless I am missing something.
PJ,
If St. Joe's were to lose they would be tied with Johnson and Wales at 15 and 3 in the conference. St. Joe's overall record will then move to 16 and 9 whereas Johnson and Wales would move to 19 and 6. Therefore I think Johnson and Wales gets the nod at 2. They split there 2 game in the regular season as well so that would be a wash.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 22, 2014, 10:52:43 AM
PJ,
If St. Joe's were to lose they would be tied with Johnson and Wales at 15 and 3 in the conference. St. Joe's overall record will then move to 16 and 9 whereas Johnson and Wales would move to 19 and 6. Therefore I think Johnson and Wales gets the nod at 2. They split there 2 game in the regular season as well so that would be a wash.
If the GNAC is like most conferences after head-to-head they compare records to other teams in the standings starting at the top. If you can't break the tie after that, that's when you usually go to obscure tiebreakers like overall record, conf road wins, overall road wins, SOS, the ole coin flip.
Since J&W is 0-2 vs. Albertus while St. Joes is 1-1 vs. Albertus, I think PJ is right, St. Joes already has the 2 seed locked up because of that monks win over AMC.
Junkie,
You are right.. I mis-read the overall records.. St. Joe needs to win to clinch the 2 seed.
Didn't get a chance to catch any of the game because I was working. I'm sure I'll get great info from the rest of you but it certainly concerns me that Eian wasn't in the box score. Hoping someone has an explanation haha
Hey Lil Dave!
Eian picked up his fourth Technical of the year vs JWU, so he had to sit a game. Therefore, he didn't play. Vic hurt his leg in the first half, then came back and got into foul trouble. Second half, first 12 minutes was very sloppy. But they dominated the last 8 minutes.
Now, onto GNAC tournament...
So, GNAC website has this:
#8 Norwich at #1 Albertus
#6 Anna Maria at #3 JWU
no other games on website, but that means that:
#7 Suffolk travels to #2 St. Joe's
and
#5 Rivier travels to #4 Lasell
AMC / Emmanuel game on Saturday : I did not have the opportunity to watch the game, all I saw was the box score and the game recap posted on the school website. I can only comment on what I read in the recap. There were two items in the game recap that really caught my eye. One statement said that " the Saints fell behind by 12 points early at the 10 minute mark of the first half ". That is what I was afraid was going to happen and it did. The second comment was " AMC took advantage of the Saints 1-2-2 trap press to go on 10 - 0 and 6 - 1 runs to break the game wide open ". That is the other thing I was afraid was going to happen and that did happen also. Not much more to say about that game except it has been a long season.
GNAC Playoffs : I don't see any upsets in the first round. Teams 5 through 8 are not quality teams and just don't have the players to pull off a big upset against any of the top four teams. However, on the second round I do not want to be so quick to make any predictions. I am not saying it will happen, but all four teams have enough skilled players to put two hot nights together and capture the GNAC title. I still believe that AMC and JWU will meet for a third time in the championship game, but young players get nervous come playoff time and all four teams still have a shot to win this league. Thursday and Saturday will be fun games to watch.
All Conference Awards:
I do not have a vote, but if I did my sheet would look like this;
1 - Watson - AMC
2 - Greenaway - JWU
3 - Davis - AMC
4 - Barboza - JWU
5 - Ljuljdjuraj - AMC
POY - Watson - AMC every team in the conference game plans around
Watson, more so than any other player.
COY - Oliver - AMC put together another nationally ranked team and
got them to play together for a common goal.
DOY - Ljuljdjuraj - AMC 96 block shots to go along with 21 steals
for the year.
ROY - Smith - Emmanuel - started 21 games as a freshman, averaged
12 points, 2 assists per game.
Saints Season Wrap Up : Final Record 6 - 19
Another long season for the Saints is now in the books. That makes 93 losses in 5 seasons, and 31 players leaving the program. A brief recap of the season is as follows;
First semester line up of four freshman and one junior college transfer proved to be a disaster, and a true coaching blunder. The freshman were overmatched both physically and by game experience, had done nothing to earn a starting spot, and the junior college transfer was not a team player, playing only for his own stats. The results of the first semester were a 1 - 7 record, getting the season started on a sour note, a lowering of team moral especially for the seniors, and an embarrassing 60 point loss to J&W at home. One of the freshman starters and the junior college transfer from this starting lineup are no longer with the team. If they went 1 - 7, what did the freshman do to earn starting spots over experienced seniors before one game was even played??
The second semester saw a brand new line up, this time featuring two experienced senior guards, a new freshman post player, and another returning player with GNAC experience. Many of the same old problems surfaced again in the second semester. Full court man pressing resulted in easy transition baskets and wide open 3 point shots for opponents even when the teams were similar in terms of size and foot speed. The inability to teach good fundamental man to man defense, especially sound shell positioning, caused the Saints to lose many winnable games. The run and gun full court pressing style of play resulted in a second semester record of 5 - 12. The defense required to compete as an effective college level team was lacking for most of the season, and the Saints looked like they were fielding a JV team on the court for most of the second semester games. The embarrassing home court losses mounted, compiling a home court record of 2 - 8.
The inability to keep a post player who can defend and rebound on the roster for a complete season, along with not having a " pure " shooter on the team resulted in playing a lineup consisting of four driver / slasher type guards, who often were playing out of position and being overmatched physically at both ends of the court. Basketball is about facts and facts don't lie. This team did not play competitive basketball again this season.
I am not sure what direction the Saints program can take from here. Rebuilding requires the development of players, giving them time to grow and mature their skill sets, develop some team chemistry, and to improve from freshman to senior year. That does not happen at Emmanuel. There is a new roster and new line up on the floor every year. The players never get a chance to grow and develop. The new players always leave before they have a chance to rebuild so rebuilding never gets completed. It is very evident that the recruits and the transfers just don't want to play for this coach. The constant parade of players to the equipment room to turn in their uniforms is a very clear signal that something is very wrong at the heart of this program. Other GNAC schools also have less than 0.500 records in the last few years but you don't see this large volume of players leaving their programs, so the problem is not just about wins and losses. If 18 and 19 year old student athletes are not getting the support and encouragement to develop their skill sets, if the atmosphere surrounding the program is not a positive, nurturing, atmosphere they will leave and look for a less stressful environment elsewhere. That is exactly what has been happening with the Saints program over the last five years. To continually berate, degrade, curse and criticize your own players perpetuates a losing atmosphere and takes a toll on the players moral. A lack of encouragement and positive support can hurt players more than the final score of the games. The only question remaining is to see how many more years this will continue.
Ok GNAC Posters,
Why don't we all do a GNAC Tourney PickEm. I realize that this will be pretty straightforward since there are only 8 teams that participate but I think it would be fun to see if anyone thinks there will be any upsets or not.
Another way for us GNAC posters to amuse ourselves as well :D
If you want to participate, and anyone from others boards can as well, I am talking to you 7, feel free. I will keep track of the results. Just copy and past my format into your message with your picks and post it to the board. We will break it up by days so lets start with Tuesday. All picks must be submitted by 7PM tomorrow in order to officially count. Also, for the Championship Game Saturday everybody will put a combined total score for the outcome in case there is a tie amongst anyone. If so the who ever is closest to the final combined score will be the official winner. Sound Good?
Here are my picks, as you can tell I am not feeling any upsets
#1 Albertus Magnus vs. #8 Norwich University: WINNER - Albertus Magnus
#4 Lasell College vs. #5 Rivier University: WINNER - Lasell College
#3 Johnson and Wales vs. #6 Anna Maria College: WINNER - Johnson and Wales
#2 Saint Josephs (ME) vs. Suffolk University: WINNER - Saint Josephs (ME)
I'll take chalk as well for the first round. The difference in conference record from Lasell to Rivier is all I need to look at in terms of top half/bottom half.
One thing I'd like your opinions on, is how many games do the Falcons have to win to be considered for Pool C? We've seen St. Joes beat them (albeit on the road) and JWU hang tough. If one of them pull off the upset in the finals do you think they still get a shot? What about the unthinkable with a Semi's loss to Lasell? We saw what the Monks loss did in terms of perception. I think they need to at least get to the finals to still have a chance to get selected. Hopefully they just take care of business and possibly host (if things fell right) or they get that middle game of a pod.
Also, can anyone clarify how St. Joes got the #2 Seed over JWU????? They both finished with identical 15-3 conference records and each team split with one and other during the regular season. JWU held a better overall record at 19-6 as opposed to St. Joes who finished 16-9.
I thought it came down to best overall record once the conference and regular season head to head were through. Apparently not since the GNAC tourney press release has St. Joes as the #2. That is a huge swing in St. Joes favor getting what I think will be JWU on Thursday in Standish Maine.
I agree, St Joe getting to play JWU at home is a big advantage because St Joe relies on strong outside shooting to stop the quick , athletic teams. Most teams shoot better at home because of familiarity with the rims, lighting, depth perception, etc. ( most teams, the one exception being my Saints, haha ) . I did watch the JWU / St Joe game played at JWU on video reply and St Joe had a lot of trouble getting to the rim because of the quick JWU defenders and the St Joe shooters we not lights out that night. Also, St joe had trouble stopping the JWU run outs off their missed 3 point shots so the game was heavily in favor of JWU.
With St Joe being able to play a home against JWU I am no longer comfortable with my prediction of AMC / JWU in the final. I still think that JWU is quicker, more athletic, better rebounders, and better defenders than St Joe, but St Joe's home court record speaks for itself. They are very tough to beat on their home court and the game is going to be a real battle.
Haven't been on sorry guys. I will get my conference teams in soon......I'm in for the pickem league. I'll take all chalk as well for the first round, except for one game. Riv over Lasell
I agree saint, my pick was amc vs jwu, not any longer. I think albertus will now have a shot at avenging their only d3 loss in the final. First things first though
Ok guys. So far so good with two guys in plus my picks. LilDave with all chalk and GNAC all chalk with the exception of Lasell over Rivier. I like that pick GNAC. I almost wanted to take them myself but I just don't think Lasell Will lose to that team on their home court. Plus I don't see anybody on Rivier being able to match up with Clyde Niba.
It is however going to take pics like that in order to win because most favorites in the conference this year seem to be the common pics to advance.
Saint, tremendous input as usual.
Will we be getting any picks from you?? It would be nice to get a non Albertus fan in the mix!
Since Junkie called me out I feel obliged, so I'm in.
Taking all chalk as well (yah really going out on a limb): #1 Albertus #2 St Joes-Maine #3 J&W #4 Lasell.
Yeah, just don't see an upset in the first round. I figure instead of trying to find the outlier early, I'll stay the course and hope to win on like a tiebreaker like the final score of the championship game or something haha
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 24, 2014, 11:36:34 AM
Also, can anyone clarify how St. Joes got the #2 Seed over JWU????? They both finished with identical 15-3 conference records and each team split with one and other during the regular season. JWU held a better overall record at 19-6 as opposed to St. Joes who finished 16-9.
I thought it came down to best overall record once the conference and regular season head to head were through. Apparently not since the GNAC tourney press release has St. Joes as the #2. That is a huge swing in St. Joes favor getting what I think will be JWU on Thursday in Standish Maine.
Not sure how the GNAC works, but the LEC works like this:
1) Head to head record
2) winning percentage against teams in the conference starting at the top and working your way down.
Since you can't break it using 1, IF 2 was the next criteria, St. Joes was 1-1 (50%) vs. Albertus while J&W was 0-2 (0%) vs. Albertus. So, if that was indeed the case, that's why St. Joes is #2 & J&W is #3.
In the LEC this year, Western Connecticut had a better overall record than UMass-Dartmouth did (16-8 for Western vs. 15-10 for Dartmouth). The series was tied at 1-1, but since Dartmouth was 1-1 vs. #2 Rhode Island College and Western lost to both games they played vs. Rhode Island, that's how Dartmouth ended up #3 and Western ended up #4.
I knew you would be here 7!!! Thanks fo the picks!
LilDave, I am thinking that is going to be my strategy as well lol. Just not feeling any upsets in the 1st round.
Thanks 7. That must be it then. I cant stress enough how big being the 2 seed is for St. Joes. That could really change things. Especially in the PickEm pool.
Another little SportzEdge piece on the Falcons:
http://sportzedge.com/2014/02/23/albertus-magnus-mens-basketball/ (http://sportzedge.com/2014/02/23/albertus-magnus-mens-basketball/)
My tournament picks:
First Round : AMC, ST Joe, JWU, LAS
Second Round : AMC, JWU
Championship : AMC 81 - 71
even though St Joe is playing at home in the second round, I still like the foot speed, defense, and rebounding of JWU, although it will be a close game.
AMC will not lose a championship game at home. They are too solid at the important positions, point guard, big man, and power forward, along with a nice compliment of quality role players who defend, rebound, and score opportunity baskets.
Quote from: lildave678 on February 24, 2014, 11:34:28 AM
One thing I'd like your opinions on, is how many games do the Falcons have to win to be considered for Pool C?
Hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but probably all 3. Usually, the cut off in the NE is the 6/8 region, and anyone in front of them has to be in the NCAA otherwise they'll just block other teams. So, if they lose in the semifinals and probably finals, Babson/WPI loser will probably be in front of them, Eastern Conn will be in front of them if they lose in the LEC, possible Springfield & Bowdoin as well. That's a lot of teams to jump. It all depends on this week. If AMC can get in front of Springfield & Bowdoin (who lost to Trinity and has no more games left in the regular season) then they're in pretty good shape actually, if they're behind both (doubtful) they're in pretty bad shape, in between the 2 still gives them a shot. R
Quote from: lildave678 on February 24, 2014, 11:34:28 AM
We've seen St. Joes beat them (albeit on the road) and JWU hang tough. If one of them pull off the upset in the finals do you think they still get a shot?
See above. AMC is the only team with any chance of a shot. The other 7 teams including St. Joes and J&W, the ONLY way into the NCAA field is by winning the conference tourney.
Right 7...I apologize if I made it seem like I was asking about EVERYONE. Only AMC has a shot outside of the AQ. Question was meant to discuss what it would take to get in if they didn't win the conference tourney.
Quote from: lildave678 on February 24, 2014, 03:38:13 PM
Right 7...I apologize if I made it seem like I was asking about EVERYONE. Only AMC has a shot outside of the AQ. Question was meant to discuss what it would take to get in if they didn't win the conference tourney.
I'll wait to see where they are this week in relation to Springfield, WPI & Bowdoin before I make any other observations, but I'd say Babson winning the NEWMAC and Eastern winning the LEC are a good place to start. I don't see either getting passed by AMC in the final unpublished rankings, so if they both lose, both of them would have to be picked before AMC does. Later this week, probably Saturday night or Sunday when most of the tournaments are finished, I'll make my annual bubble watch.
At this point, I would think that Albertus would have to be top 5 to get an AQ... But, they need, East Conn to win their conference, and they need whoever is higher in this week rankings (babson/WPI) to win the NEWMAC, plus a close game in the finals....
Hopefully this is all a moot point, but good question little Dave. But, in reality if they don't win the conference they are number 1 or 2 seed in ECAC.
First things First, I think they need to play well tomorrow night.
I'll take Albertus, ST. Joe's, JWU and Riv (Lasell coach is a good coach, but they don't match up well versus Rivier). I think Riv wins a close one, by 2 or 3. The other games aren't close.
Ok men, we are currently at 6 PickEm participants. They include Myself, LilDave, GNAC, 7, Saint and PJ. This is about where I figured our number would be since all of us are the majority posters here on the GNAC thread. Was hoping maybe Former or Albertus2007 would take a crack but times not out yet, 7:00 PM tonight is the cutoff. Maybe they'll make it in.
I'm going with the following:
1st Rd-Albertus, St. Joe's, JWU, Lasell
2nd Rd-Albertus, St. Joe's
Champion-Albertus
Thanks Albertus2007.....You don't have to give it to me right now but the championship game combined score is going to be our tiebreaker so just a heads up!
Albertus2007 is an over-achiever!
Good one PJ. Anyone going to the game tonight? I can't make it but will be there Thursday if Albertus wins.
All home teams win on Tuesday
#5 Rivier 65 #4 Lasell 80
#6 Anna Maria 58 #3 Johnson & Wales (RI) 92
#8 Norwich 69 #1 Albertus Magnus 87
#7 Suffolk 72 #2 Saint Joseph's (Me.) 80
Thursday Semi-Final Action:
#4 Lasell at #1 Albertus
#3 Johnson & Wales at #2 St. Joseph's (Me)
I'll take Albertus & Johnson & Wales for the Thursday selections.
Albertus and JWU for me as well!
Also, how was the crowd for anyone who was there/watched the game. I had a soccer game so I was unable to watch. Box scored said attendance was over 700 and I know the bleachers "hold" 600. I'm assuming they added the seats on the baseline? Hopefully the student section was a little more attentive lol
I take JWU/Albertus..
I wasn't there, but watched online.. The crowd looked really into it. They were jumping on the side and making noise, wearing their white t-shirts and waiving them around. It looked like there was a lot of energy! I was impressed. Dave, they added bleachers behind the home basket, so instead of the folding chairs, there were bleachers.
Quote from: pjunito on February 26, 2014, 09:21:51 AM
I take JWU/Albertus..
I wasn't there, but watched online.. The crowd looked really into it. They were jumping on the side and making noise, wearing their white t-shirts and waiving them around. It looked like there was a lot of energy! I was impressed. Dave, they added bleachers behind the home basket, so instead of the folding chairs, there were bleachers.
http://sportzedge.com/2014/02/25/dunk-haven-albertus-magnus-cruises-to-gnac-semis/ (http://sportzedge.com/2014/02/25/dunk-haven-albertus-magnus-cruises-to-gnac-semis/)
Another SportzEdge piece and it seems you're right, crowd definitely looked into it!
Game Review : Anna Marie / JWU
I watched the AM / JWU game on live stream and was very impressed with the JWU man to man defense. Lucas, Lewis, and Greenaway, pressured the AM ball handlers and shooters on the perimeter forcing them to drive into the paint where Barboza, Robinson, and Touze were waiting for them. Six times in the first half JWU forced AM to throw off balanced shots up with under 5 seconds on the shot clock. That is outstanding man to man pressure defense. Eight minutes into the game JWU was up 20 to 5 and never looked back.
I was also impressed with the offensive spread, 6 players in double figures, 9 players scoring in the game. JWU attacks in so many different ways; steals into transition, set offense, pull up 3 pointers, free throws, and especially offensive rebound put backs. The last time I watch JWU I was a little bit critical of their flex offense because they were not setting hard flex screens and not making sharp flex cuts. I saw the same thing again last night but now I am not sure that they are trying to use the flex pattern to score. I believe that they are running the flex pattern just to get the defenders spread out on the floor and out of shell help position so they can use their quickness and foot speed to get past the perimeter defenders and get to the basket. The JWU players appeared to be able to beat the AM defenders off the dribble any time they wanted to. Even when they missed a shot another JWU players was there to clean up the offensive glass. A very one sided game from start to finish. After watching JWU again last night I am sticking with my pick of JWU over St Joe on Thursday.
Well seeing as though I am behind since my Riv pick fell flat on it's face, I have to go albertus and st joes
Ok Gentleman,
After the Quarterfinals the GNAC PickEm Tourney standings are as follows:
1st - D3HoopJunkie at 4-0
1st - LilDave at 4-0
1st - 7Express at 4-0
1st - Saint at 4-0
1st - Alberus2007 at 4-0
2nd - PJ at 3-1
2nd - GNAC at 3-1
What a Barn Burner LOL
Since I have everyone's semi-final picks in already I might as well state my own for the record and go with Albertus and St. Joes. Like PJ and GNAC in the quarters I'm choosing to take what is the "unconventional" pick in St. Joes to try and break away from the other 4-0 participants.
And to add to that I actually think that St. Joes is going to beat JWU at home. I know that in the first round St. Joes struggled a little with Suffolk and JWU absolutely dismantled Anna Maria but on that court in Standish Maine that team seems to have something going for them. I also think that last nights "close" win against Suffolk will make the Monks refocus on their goal and put in a strong performance against a team in JWU that they know is a very strong opponent. Also, after such a blowout like what JWU had I think they might lose their nerve a little and struggle against a very well coached team in St. Joes. Either way this is going to be an excellent game and I think the outcome is going to be very close.
As for Albertus and Lasell like everyone else you have to take the Falcons in this game. They are simply to good at home. Lasell has two quality players in Niba and Ganesh but they have no answer down low for Vic or at the guard position against Eian Davis. Darius and Niba will go at it all night but there are simply to many weapons on Albertus for the Lasers to handle.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 26, 2014, 12:19:26 PM
Ok Gentleman,
After the Quarterfinals the GNAC PickEm Tourney standings are as follows:
1st - D3HoopJunkie at 4-0
1st - LilDave at 4-0
1st - 7Express at 4-0
1st - Saint at 4-0
1st - Alberus2007 at 4-0
2nd - PJ at 3-1
2nd - GNAC at 3-1
What a Barn Burner LOL
ME and GNAC at the bottom of pick-em.. Sounds about right.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 26, 2014, 12:19:26 PM
Ok Gentleman,
After the Quarterfinals the GNAC PickEm Tourney standings are as follows:
1st - D3HoopJunkie at 4-0
1st - LilDave at 4-0
1st - 7Express at 4-0
1st - Saint at 4-0
1st - Alberus2007 at 4-0
2nd - PJ at 3-1
2nd - GNAC at 3-1
What a Barn Burner LOL
I've finished DEAD last in every thing I've done on here this year (WIAC fantasy league, WIAC pick em league and national pick 'em league) so I'm guaranteed to end no better than 1-2 and finish last here.
I can't beat GNAC at anything.... Therefore, JWU will lose tomorrow night. It is a sad fact.. Expect for 2 on 2 hoops with Dan Doria.
Wow. GNAC, sounds like PJ needs to be put back in his place. PJ I think you beat GNAC in 2 on 2 one time. PJ, how about those Mets. Maybe Bobby Bonilla make a comeback since he's on the books till around 2030.
Officially... It was a one game, winner takes all. Doria and I won the first game.. GNAC will tell stories about him winning the second game 11-0 or 11-1.. But, it was never series.. Additionally, the third game was stopped because someone hurt their ankle; we were winning the third game. Don't believe Steveo!
With all that being said.. GNAC owns me in most sport related activities. Especially fantasy!
Albertus #8 in new regional rankings
Full list: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2014/02/26/2014-ncaa-regional-rankings-week-3/ (http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2014/02/26/2014-ncaa-regional-rankings-week-3/)
It must have taken along time for the committee to decide on the new rankings. Hey let's swap Bowdoin and Springfield and call it a day.
Is the committee made up of coaches?
I think Dave said once, that the committee is made up by coaches; one from each conference in NE. There are 8 conference, therefore 8 coaches. Lasell represents the GNAC. But, I think he is not allowed to be in the "room" when a GNAC team is discussed (or voted on), not sure which one.
There are some administrators too, but some double as coaches. Thus the national committee, for example, is made up of four administrators and four coaches officially, though again, some have two roles and could be called an "administrator" to get another coach on the committee.
Here is your Northeast Committee:
Michael Tully, chair Roger Williams Commonwealth Coast
Ed Silva University of New England Commonwealth Coast
Aaron Galetta Lasell Great Northeast
Brian Baptiste Massachusetts Dartmouth Little East
Jason Doviak Salem State MASCAC
Dave Faucher Daniel Webster NECC
David Hixon Amherst NESCAC
Larry Anderson MIT NEWMAC
Dick Meader Maine-Farmington North Atlantic
Quote from: pjunito on February 26, 2014, 03:00:41 PM
I can't beat GNAC at anything.... Therefore, JWU will lose tomorrow night. It is a sad fact.. Expect for 2 on 2 hoops with Dan Doria.
Lol you said it not me
I was right bro....
How in the world does St. Joe down 5 with 30 seconds left win? JWU up 2 with 5 seconds left, JWU fouls a St. Joe player with 3 seconds left. Player hits first free throw.. than misses second, but rebound some how ends up in the hands of the pg, who takes a 3 point shot and is fouled with no time left on clock. He hits all three seconds with zero time left. WOW....
St. Joe's plays Albertus on Saturday.
What a night in the GNAC tourney. Albertus handles Lasell with ease and advances to the final. I cant really say what I truly feel about what I saw out of the Lasell team tonight. I say this because I would never call out an individual player on a college basketball team because I just don't think that is fair to him or the team and family he represents but as a whole I lost track of the technical fouls that Lasell had tonight. It was a terrible showing on there part. I respect Coach Galletta very much. I believe he is one of the finer coaches in not just the GNAC but Northeast and unfortunately tonight he let his team get away from him. I just felt he should have done more to bring his team back together and get them to ignore the home crowd. Tempers get hot and its obviously never easy losing especially when its your season on the line but you simply can not interact with the fans like some of the Lasell players did tonight. What surprised me even more was the fact that Albertus didn't receive one technical foul. As an Albertus supporter that is shocking LOL. They kept their cool and didn't allow the Lasell team to get into their heads. I think we can base that off of pre-game planning and poise but not just the players but Coach Oliver and his staff as well.
Real quick, Darius Watson is the Conference POY. There is officially no doubt in my mind. I thought Vic was challenging a little and what a year he has had but really it can not be anyone else at this point. It HASSSS to be Darius!!!
St. Joes come all the way back in what I believe was the closing seconds and topples JWU to advance to the finals against Albertus Magnus. I don't know how the game ended exactly but it must have been crazy. If anyone has any info on this game and the outcome it would much appreciated.
According to Albertus post game the championship is set for 1PM Saturday. I will have the updated PickEm standing in tomorrow morning.
Fly Falcons Fly!!! Dunk Haven!!!! 40 Straight Home Victories at the Nest. Longest streak in the country for all divisions!!!
Quote from: pjunito on February 27, 2014, 10:43:51 PM
I was right bro....
How in the world does St. Joe down 5 with 30 seconds left win? JWU up 2 with 5 seconds left, JWU fouls a St. Joe player with 3 seconds left. Player hits first free throw.. than misses second, but rebound some how ends up in the hands of the pg, who takes a 3 point shot and is fouled with no time left on clock. He hits all three seconds with zero time left. WOW....
St. Joe's plays Albertus on Saturday.
2 fouls in the final 3 seconds when your WINNING?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Btw, I'll take Albertus with 166 total points for Saturday
Well PJ that does sound crazy and thanks for the info. That was fast lol.....Amazing ending.....Time for the Falcons to extract some vengeance
Also every get me final picks and total score for tiebreaker please
I'm taking Albertus and 148 points
Couple things quick, some weird things happened in maine. 23 free throws for st joes 11 for JWU. From what I read on a JWU players Instagram the last foul was after the buzzer. I have a feeling JWU got robbed, go look at the play by play in the second half, very suspect.
On to albertus. Beginning of second half #5 for lasell I heckled a little bit. I'm not far removed from college and get into it time to time. One thing I never do is swear. In a funny/playful manner I told #5 my girlfriend rolls her shorts up too, as he was doing in this game. He then told me too, well I'll keep it pg. A minute later foul on albertus lasell at line. #5 comes all the way to me as I'm in front row on opposite end, and spits on me. In front of about 50 ppl that were right there. I went onto the court and thankfully held my cool as I just received an offer to become a new haven police officer just today. I am appalled and disgusted with the whole thing.
Quote from: GnacBballFan on February 27, 2014, 11:13:20 PM
Couple things quick, some weird things happened in maine. 23 free throws for st joes 11 for JWU. From what I read on a JWU players Instagram the last foul was after the buzzer. I have a feeling JWU got robbed, go look at the play by play in the second half, very suspect.
On to albertus. Beginning of second half #5 for lasell I heckled a little bit. I'm not far removed from college and get into it time to time. One thing I never do is swear. In a funny/playful manner I told #5 my girlfriend rolls her shorts up too, as he was doing in this game. He then told me too, well I'll keep it pg. A minute later foul on albertus lasell at line. #5 comes all the way to me as I'm in front row on opposite end, and spits on me. In front of about 50 ppl that were right there. I went onto the court and thankfully held my cool as I just received an offer to become a new haven police officer just today. I am appalled and disgusted with the whole thing.
It's been talked about on these boards for a number of years from the NESCAC, to the LEC and now it looks like here: The refs in Maine are notorious for being blatant homers. By far easily the worst collection of referees of any state I've seen. They give ALL the teams in Maine (especially the good ones [Bowdoin, St. Joes, etc]) a generous whistle while screwing over the opposition. Western lost a game up there @ USM 2 or 3 years ago by 1 when they called DaQuan brooks for a had check 40 feet from the basket with 2.5 seconds left in a 1 point game. That would've been a terrible call at any other point in the game, an awful call with 2.5 seconds in the first half, and inexcusable to call that with 2.5 seconds left in the game. And would've been a no call in any other situation, but a team from Maine has a chance to knock off a top 30 team, so of course the Maine referees are going to give them any advantage they can.
As for buzzer beaters: With no TV and therefore no capability to have replays (though if someone at the game is tech savvy enough you MAY be able to go back on the computer and see it), the buzzer beaters really are judgement calls, and once a call stands on the floor, it's pretty difficult to reverse it since as I said you can't go over to the monitor and look at a replay the truck from outside is showing, because there's no truck, and no TV monitors. Sucks that a game has to end like that, but not much else you can do. The refs hands are tied. They can't stand there forever, and they also can't do a dueover, so they're stuck.
I did not see the game. But, when I read the play by play in the JWU/St. Joe game. Something must have happened.
St. Joe's gets a lay-up with 5 seconds left; then must have fouled someone on the inbound, because JWU goes to the line with 5 seconds left. JWU hits both free throws and St. Joe calls a time out. With 3 seconds left JWU commits a foul. (Without video, I don't know where the foul took place). But, I do know that the ball was underneath St. Joe's basket, so it could have been 45 feet away from the basket like what happened to West Conn a few years ago. Then, St. Joe's hits the first free throw. Then misses the second, JWU is very athletic but St. Joe's is very physical. I am still not sure how the ball was able to get to the shortest guy on the court near the 3 point line for a final heeve with 3 seconds left. Clock begins when someon touches the ball. Which means, one of two things probably happened. Either, the ball was tapped back out right to the player or St. Joe grabbed a clean rebound and kick it out.
Just a wild finish. Feel bad for JWU who fought hard but they should have secured the rebound.
Welcome to Dunk Haven!
http://sportzedge.com/2014/02/27/welcome-to-dunk-haven-tiny-albertus-magnus-has-built-a-local-basketball-powerhouse/
Another good feature:
http://sportzedge.com/2014/02/27/albertus-magnus-advances-to-gnac-championship-game/
What great articles and videos by WTNH.com SportzEdge. They have done an excellent job all season with covering the Falcons so hats off to them.
Ok Guys Semi-Finals are complete and here is the updated GNAC PickEm Tourney standings
1st - D3HoopJunkie at 6-0
1st - Albertus2007 at 6-0
2nd - LilDave at 5-1
2nd - 7Express at 5-1
2nd - GNAC at 5-1
2nd - Saint at 5-1
3rd - PJ at 4-2
I got Picks and Total Score in already for Saturday from 7, Saint, and Former.
Just waiting on LilDave, GNAC and PJ and also myself but I am going to present my pick in my next post for the record.
My final Pick for the Championship game will be Albertus Magnus with a final total score of 163
Well, if I wanted to win I'd obviously have to pick St. Joes but I don't wanna be responsible for any jinx so gimme the Falcons with a total 151.
LOL very good LilDave......I would have been disappointed in you if you took the Monks hahahaha.
Also I want to point out quickly that this is NOT Price is Right rules for the final score. You CAN go over so it does not matter if your total is over the actual final. Whoever is closest will win the tiebreaker.
Yea I'm fighting for second and not going against albertus lol amc 164. Pjunito in last, looks like our fantasy football/baseball/basketball standings
I told everyone that JWU was losing because whenever I go up against GNAC I lose. Oh well.
Albertus and 179
Attempted to watch the ST Joe / JWU live stream but St Joe was charging $10.95 to see the game. Who do they think they are, Amherst ?? So I switched over to watch the AMC game. I was really surprised at how easily AMC scored on Lasell. It appeared that they could get to the rim any time they wanted. With that kind of quickness and foot speed I was very surprised that Lasell didn't try to step in and take charges off the AMC dribble penetration. I liked the Lasell game plan, 5 - out motion into a dribble handoff, run shot clock, slow the game down, but then at the end of the shot clock Lasell couldn't make any shots. Every time they missed an open 3 pointer or missed a penetration layup AMC would just grab the rebound and run down and score. I guess the GNAC was really a 3 team conference this year after all. Good luck in the championship game.
Something to sit on for the rest of the day:
Do I risk going the other way and if by some miracle it happens, I'll end up tied for first, or give PJ some company in last?? ???
Quote from: 7express on February 28, 2014, 03:04:19 PM
Something to sit on for the rest of the day:
Do I risk going the other way and if by some miracle it happens, I'll end up tied for first, or give PJ some company in last?? ???
Hahahaha let him sit alone in last. I like what 7 does in the LEC and puts lines on the games. So I'm gonna do that now. Gonna put the line at Albertus -7 1/2
I've held last place alone before... Appreciate the company but not needed 7.
Good luck to West Conn tonight!
All Championship Game Picks are in and it is a clean sweep across the board for the Albertus Magnus Falcons.
Here is everyone's tiebreaker total score
1st - D3HoopJunkie - AMC 163
1st - Albertus2007 - AMC 148
2nd - LilDave - AMC 151
2nd - 7Express AMC - 166
2nd - GNAC - AMC 164
2nd - Saint - AMC 152
3rd - PJ - AMC 179
It is going to be a fun one in New Haven tomorrow. Game time is slated for 1:00 o'clock. As I look at my own clock at this hour I realize that it is less than 15 hours away. Dunk Haven Baby......Lets put on a show for the GNAC and all the haters
Dave or Pat,
Is D3hoops sending a crew down to broadcast the GNAC Championship between Albertus an St Joes?? I know 2 years ago you sent one down for the Albertus vs Anna Maria Championship and was wondering if you were doing the same for this year. If so hopefully it is Frank Rossi. (I beleive that is his name) That guy is as good a play by play broadcaster you can get IMO. His call with the buzzer beater at William Paterson was unreal.
Time to shine AMC, do or die. The team that beat you by 20, what other scenario could they ask for? Can't wait!
Junkie I think I heard JWU play by play guy say during JWU vs AMC that he would be doing the conference final even if JWU wasn't there. Not sure if that's a Gnac thing or a d3hoops broadcast
Well I guess that 20 point win feb by st joes was nothing more then a bad night for amc. Congrats to coach Oliver and the falcons they deserve it
Falcons go in and handle business and do exactly what was expected of them to do and that's WIN the GNAC Championship. Just total domination by Albertus. This team on their home court is as good as anyone in the country and I haven't posted one remark on the regional rankings the past few weeks or commented on any remarks made by other posters from other threads. Let me say this; this team is fully capable of beating any team in the Northeast and Country. The fact that the NCAA chooses to just look at numbers like SOS W/L% of opponents is a joke. I totally understand that this is D3 and it is very tough because of either money or other factors but these people need to see teams play in order to pass fair judgment. I am well aware that if the Falcons hadn't won there conference they would NOT have gotten a Pool C bid because of these factors. For a team to be ranked 14th in the country and not make the tournament is an absolute joke. I know the national rankings don't mean anything for the committee so then why waste time and put them up. Its just ridiculous. Even Joe Lunardi from ESPN would be scratching his head.
I just needed to vent a little their LOL. Nothing against other teams in the Northeast because like Albertus it is totally out of their control but I just think it is a royally flawed system. What gets me most upset is the fact that their regional ranking is going to cost them a chance to host the opening weekend and I just think that is so wrong.
The scheduling for Albertus isn't their fault either. Coach Oliver knows the ins and outs better than any coach in the country. Western, Trinity they wouldn't play us this year. I am almost certain that Oliver has contacted a number of NESCAC schools and every time they shy away and don't want to play Albertus. No one wants to lose to a GNAC team and that's unfortunate. This team is not hiding from anyone and everyone is about to find that out next week.
DUNK HAVEN!!!! 41 Straight at home
St. Joes really let me down. I knew Albertus would win, but I put my 66 total on the fact St. Joes would get in the mid 60's to high 70's. Congrats to the Falcons! With WPI & Babson both losing in the NEWMAC today and Eastern currently trailing by 9 halfway through the second, AMC would've been on the outside looking in come Monday afternoon. Glad to see they took it out of the NCAA's hands, and got the bid themselves!
Now on to the PickEm Pool,
Everyone chose the championship correctly but there can be only one winner and that is Albertus2007 who won the tiebreaker against me (D3Hoopjunkie). The total combined final score was 133 and his guess of 148 was far closer than mine of 163.
Here are the official Final Standings:
1st - Albertus2007 at 7-0 with Tiebreak of 148
2nd - D3HoopJunkie at 7-0 with Tiebreak of 163
3rd - LilDave at 6-1 with Tiebreak of 151
4th - Saint at 6-1 with Tiebreak of 152
5th - GNAC at 6-1 with tiebreak of 164
6th - 7Express at 6-1 with Tiebreak of 166
7th - PJ at 5-2 with a Tiebreak of 179
Nice job guys. Not to many of us but it was still fun. Congrats to Albertus2007. Next year we will call it the 2nd Annual PJUNITO GNAC PickeEm Tourney since you finished last this year PJ ;) ;D :P
I feel honored to have won the 1st annual GNAC tourney pick em. PJ, I guess something's never haver change lol.
PJUNITO GNAC Pick em.. What an honor... Hey, we are all know I am not great at pick em. lol..
I had a high number because I thought Albertus was going into the high 90s and St. Joe was going to be forced to take a lot of threes and finish around 79 - 84. I thought I was golden. lol. Albertus scored 70 with just under 11 left. They only score 14 more points the rest of the game. lol.
Hey, bottom line is Albertus won and gets the AQ. Now, let's see where and who they play.
It's certainly easy to go to sleep tonight knowing we're in, can't wait til selection Monday!
It was a lot of fun sitting next to lildave and GNAC yesterday. Awesome time..
Boys, should I bring the moby wrap to the NCAAs??????
Yeoo...
Go Falcons!
Dunk Haven!
Chanpionship game : wow, AMC was impressive. I watched the game on live stream and was thankful it was not played at St Joe or else they would have charged $10.95 to see the game. AMC just ran away with the game. Putting Victor L back into the game with 2 fouls in the first half was a risky move that ended up being the correct call, because the game was just about over by halftime. I thought that St Joe had a great game plan, clog driving lanes with a tight 2 -3 zone and get good rebounding position, walk the ball up the court, run shot clock, run a nice motion offense with back door cuts and 3 point step outs, but in the end it didn't make any difference , they still lost by 35. I guess having long athletic players with good foot speed and a quick first step is better than any game plan. That was an impressive run for AMC through the GNAC playoffs.
It looks like the D-3 Dominos are starting to fall; Earlham, Wilkes, Johnson & Wales (NC), Yeshiva, so far . The big question is will the Dominos continue to tumble all the way up to Boston? I hope Emmanuel gets on board before the train leaves the station.
Saint, I think it's time for a change up there as well. Not even discussing the w/l totals, the revolving doors of players you speak of is very concerning for any AD to see
Saint, great job all year long. Can't wait to chat more about the GNAC next year. Hey, hopefully Emmanuel can return to what they were 5-8 years ago. A very competitive team in the GNAC.
I still think JWU would have made the gnac championship a little more competitive. I know albertus was a team possessed these last two weeks and even handed JWU a 17 point loss in RI,but I think JWU would have been a better game in the championship. With that being said I expect teams to find out just how good JWU is during the ecac
That's If they're into it. Could pull a USA v Finland and just pack it in since it's not the GNAC Title/NCAAs
The time is upon us boys!!
Less than a half hour away from the selection show. Having a split monitor with headphones to watch and listen too at work is totally allowed right? Maybe that is why they say March is the least productive work month of the year. Between the Madness in D1, D2 and D3 I guess I can see why. I know it is certainly my least productive month.
Lets see where the Falcons land!!!
Funny to see us going pack to Purchase in a potential second round matchup. Playing WPI in the first round as the neutral game of the pod. Purchase is only like an hour away from AMC so that's good. Anyone know whether the game will be Thursday or Friday yet?
Holy cow - 3 weeks ago I was hoping for WPI not to "have to" play Magnus in the second round. I was rooting for you guys to have to play one of the NESCAC schools.
Now - we get you in the first round. Between WPI's late injuries and overall struggles to score - I think this is a brutal a brutal match-up for them. Coach Bartley will have them ready and they will play hard but I do not see WPI scoring in the 70's. Has Magnus been held to the 60's in years? I will go look.
Will be fun and Purchase is close to my house/work - so I will be there.
Here's to hoping for a Friday game instead of Thursday! And yeah WPI, St Joes held us to 55 but then we didn't score less than 84 the rest of the way haha. Love games of contrasting styles.
The games are on friday since we are going back to the old format. The times should be 6 and 8.
I cant beleive the NCAA is putting Magnus and Purchase in the same POD. How typical. If both teams ate are fortunate enough to get past their 1st game it is certainly going to be a great game but lets be honest this just isn't right.
Hopefully Albertus gets the late game otherwise there is no way I'm making it from Southington to Purchase. Another reason to hate month end close.
pretty sure d3hoops tweeted that the host team always plays last
Also GNAC season awards are out and Darius Watson is named POY. Big Vic gets Defensive POY and Darius, Vic and Eian Davis all make 1st Team All Conference. Rob Sanicola from St. Joes gets COY over Oliver which for me doesnt make sense but I guess Albertus cant get all the honors. Im sure it doesnt bother Oliver at all. He is much more invested in the teams success rather than himself. If I had to guess, I bet he is already studying WPI film.
Quote from: lildave678 on March 03, 2014, 12:51:50 PM
Funny to see us going pack to Purchase in a potential second round matchup. Playing WPI in the first round as the neutral game of the pod. Purchase is only like an hour away from AMC so that's good. Anyone know whether the game will be Thursday or Friday yet?
It's Friday, and you guys will probably be the early game because the host school usually plays the second game.
The game is at 5:30. Falcons were not sent far away, under 60 miles from New Haven. They also have a few players from New York and New Jersey. Hopefully, there is a good crowd rooting for Albertus. Sucks to play WPI, I really wanted any of the other NEWMAC teams. lol. Great job by the NEWMAC this year!
WPI plays very good team defense, they are banged up, but this team has won a lot of games over the last 4 years. They are well coached and experience. They want to play in the low 60s, Albertus wants to play in the low 80s. Should be a very good game.
GNAC All Conference team.
http://www.thegnac.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/files/2013-14_GNAC_Men-s_Basketball_All-Conference_Team.pdf
Congrats to Vic, Darius, and Eian.
ECAC bracket released.
JWU #2 seed and Lasell #5 seed. One of these teams could make a run. Go GNAC!
http://www.ecacsports.com/sports/winter/mbkb/Championships/DivisionIII/2014/MBB_NERegionSeedings
PJ,
I couldnt help but notice in the NCAA Tourney Fantasy League that you picked Darius Watson with your 2nd pick??? He is clearly a 1st rounder!!! I guess I'm just a little disapponted in you LOL. I only kid of course but your center better be Vic if he isnt taken. WPI doesnt have an answer for him and I am expecting a big game if they advance against Purchase after a rough game the first time these two teams met!!
The way Elms played at AMC I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they beat JWU. But I am rooting for the GNAC teams so they can earn some respect - that is, whatever respect comes with the ECACs haha.
It isn't the NCAAs, but it's post season play and good experience. Not as good of a tournament as the NIT, but good luck Lasers and Wildcats!
Go GNAC
Quote from: pjunito on March 04, 2014, 08:36:11 AM
It isn't the NCAAs, but it's post season play and good experience. Not as good of a tournament as the NIT, but good luck Lasers and Wildcats!
Go GNAC
If you have a young team, the ECACs much like the NIT is a great expierence. It gives you some more practice time, and games against quality regional teams you probably wouldn't ordinarily play. That's why I don't know why Western didn't declare. ALL of their talented players are underclassmen, they would've easily made the cut (finished at 17-9) and we'd have games against J&W, Nichols (ranked #10 in New England), Lasell, Elms, etc. I know it's expensive to host, but on the declaration form, put in a not available to host bid.
Quote from: 7express on March 04, 2014, 02:05:50 PM
Quote from: pjunito on March 04, 2014, 08:36:11 AM
It isn't the NCAAs, but it's post season play and good experience. Not as good of a tournament as the NIT, but good luck Lasers and Wildcats!
Go GNAC
If you have a young team, the ECACs much like the NIT is a great expierence. It gives you some more practice time, and games against quality regional teams you probably wouldn't ordinarily play. That's why I don't know why Western didn't declare. ALL of their talented players are underclassmen, they would've easily made the cut (finished at 17-9) and we'd have games against J&W, Nichols (ranked #10 in New England), Lasell, Elms, etc. I know it's expensive to host, but on the declaration form, put in a not available to host bid.
I completely agree 7. It's at least one more game and two more practices. It's decent opponents and a great growing experience.
Btw, good luck into your foray into the NCAA fantasy league. My first year I finished in 4th or 5th, then the following year I won, so hopefully you take the same path....except skipping the 4th or 5th and straight to winning.
Thanks man.. I watched all of last year, the draft, the free agent teams and the actually games.. It seems that you need guys who can go deep into tournament. But, I am trying to see if I can get guys who will play at least 4. lol. We'll see!
Quote from: 7express on March 04, 2014, 02:05:50 PM
Quote from: pjunito on March 04, 2014, 08:36:11 AM
It isn't the NCAAs, but it's post season play and good experience. Not as good of a tournament as the NIT, but good luck Lasers and Wildcats!
Go GNAC
If you have a young team, the ECACs much like the NIT is a great expierence. It gives you some more practice time, and games against quality regional teams you probably wouldn't ordinarily play. That's why I don't know why Western didn't declare. ALL of their talented players are underclassmen, they would've easily made the cut (finished at 17-9) and we'd have games against J&W, Nichols (ranked #10 in New England), Lasell, Elms, etc. I know it's expensive to host, but on the declaration form, put in a not available to host bid.
My son played at Eastern Ct from 2010-2013. His teams were able to play in three ECAC (and one NCAA) tournament. The team gained a great deal from playing in these post season opportunities including a championship in his final collegiate game. I believe that their success in the post season in 2012 and , hopefully, this year, was related in some way to being part of a post season team.
WTNH TV 8 New Haven with a nice mention of the 3 CT teams in this years NCAA D-III National Tournament mentioning ECSU, Mitchel and Albertus Magnus, together with an interview with Coach Oliver and one of the AM guards, ( I didn't catch his name). Per Oliver, he firmly believes AM can go all the way to Salem this year!!!It would be cool if WTNH picked up the tournament games at SUNY Purchase NY, only about 60 miles down I-95!!!
Awesome ESCU.. I gotta check it out. Good luck to the guys.
Quote from: pjunito on March 04, 2014, 07:58:40 PM
Awesome ESCU.. I gotta check it out. Good luck to the guys.
right back at ya!!!!
Thanks ECSUAlum. Good luck to Eastern in the big dance.
If anyone can post the link to this interview I would very much appreciate it. I will be out tonight and wont be able to catch the 11 o'clock showing of News8. I suspect it will be on SportzEdge soon but still if someone can post a link that would be great.
Sounds like a great interview!!
Quote from: pjunito on March 04, 2014, 02:20:48 PM
Thanks man.. I watched all of last year, the draft, the free agent teams and the actually games.. It seems that you need guys who can go deep into tournament. But, I am trying to see if I can get guys who will play at least 4. lol. We'll see!
Yah, same thing I do. Last year when I had the #1 pick it was incredibly easy to take Toomey at #1 (since Tillema of Stevens Point was out last year). But I'll fill out a bracket and I'll fill in my sheet with guys on teams I have at least in the sweet 16 OR games that can be pick ems (I.e. I have Eastern beating Plattsburgh [mainly out as a homer pick, sorry Magic :(] but since I see that game can go either way I still picked out a couple of Plattsburgh players as well).
Also, I'll suggest taking someone off a bye team (either Amherst or Emory. All the good ones from Amherst are gone, but there's still good ones from Emory left), that way in round 1 when we have 8 and only start 6, it makes the decision a whole lot easier. At least for me it did.
Thanks.. I noticed no Emory guys taking yet. Either way, I will have a lot of fun with it. It has been fun researching all the players. Lots of good players in D3. Makes me appreciate it even more.
Are you traveling to any games 7?
Quote from: pjunito on March 04, 2014, 08:46:42 PM
Thanks.. I noticed no Emory guys taking yet. Either way, I will have a lot of fun with it. It has been fun researching all the players. Lots of good players in D3. Makes me appreciate it even more.
Are you traveling to any games 7?
If I go anywhere, it'll be Purchase but not sure yet. My parents have been traveling a lot this year and I have a dog that's 12 or 13 years old, so I've had to stay home with the dog a lot.
I gotcha. Hey, Purchase isn't too far. lol. But, I would want to see the team in my conference play as well.
Can't wait to see your write up on the East Conn and RIC match ups in the LEC thread.
Great to see Mitchell in the tournament as well. Hopefully CT can do well in their first games.
Yah. Too bad Plattsburgh is 5.5 hours away, lol. I'm not sure I'd even go up there if Western was playing. That trip down to F&M in Lancaster, PA 2 years ago was rough, and I think Plattsburgh is even further.
Quote from: 7express on March 04, 2014, 10:04:37 PM
Yah. Too bad Plattsburgh is 5.5 hours away, lol. I'm not sure I'd even go up there if Western was playing. That trip down to F&M in Lancaster, PA 2 years ago was rough, and I think Plattsburgh is even further.
It's smooth sailing once you get on 87, though - and a very pretty drive.
Just make sure you stay at the speed limit in the North Country. State troopers love to give tickets.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 04, 2014, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: 7express on March 04, 2014, 10:04:37 PM
Yah. Too bad Plattsburgh is 5.5 hours away, lol. I'm not sure I'd even go up there if Western was playing. That trip down to F&M in Lancaster, PA 2 years ago was rough, and I think Plattsburgh is even further.
It's smooth sailing once you get on 87, though - and a very pretty drive.
It's just long. Same with the trips to Maine & New Hampshire for Western. Once you get outside Worcester, MA, it's free and easy traffic wise, only problem is you've already been driving for 2 hours and your still less than halfway there ::)
Same with 87 & F&M. Once I get onto 287 in New Jersey, there's no traffic the rest of the way, but I've only been driving for 1 hour, and I've still got 4 and a half hours to go.
Will be the same with Plattsburgh. Once I get north of Albany it'll be a fine, scenic ride through the Adirondacks, but Albany would only be the halfway point :o
Pretty cool video I found on Eian Davis, Albertus' juco transfer all star point guard. Ive seen some videos of Eian as a streetballer playing in brooklyn against the likes of the Bulls Taj Gibson among others, but this is the first i found on him that basically tells his path. He's by far my favorite player on this Albertus team. Second in the nation in assists, only player thats in front of him is from Grinell, so that doesn't count in my eyes lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7gUR23sFJo
Sorry guys I'm guilty of not watching the whole clip before posting it. expected some highlights. but still, you can see albertus has gotten a gem. still not sure how this kid landed in a d3 school
Thanks for sharing GNAC. Good thing there was no video footage.. Because he is the quickest guard I've seen in years at the D3 level. One nice thing is that racked up a lot of awards and hardware over the last few years. He will be key if the falcons want to make a run in this tournament.
I agree pj lol let him stay a secret for three more days. Albertus will go as Davis goes. I cannot believe he hasn't gone in the fantasy draft yet. His turnovers are higher then I would like but as much as I've watched there are 3 a game when his passes are just so good it takes the receiver completely off guard and forces a turnover lol yes his passes are so good in tight spots that it creates turnovers, which I can't fault him for. He could 25-30 a game if he wanted too
Well.. I already have Watson and it is hard having two guys from the same team. Because if Albertus losses than there goes my team. However, as you already know, I believe in my team over my fantasy team.... So, I am picking Eian next.. lol... I agree, he can give Albertus a triple double on any given night. He explodes off the ground. I really want to see him on a bigger stage. I think he lives for the moment. No amount of tape will prepare defenders for his quickness. I know Oliver will have them prepare. And I believe Watson will get them ready to play defensively.
GNAC and PJ,
Nice posts. I also would like to add that as we all know Purchase is in NY and Brooklyn is only about 30 minutes away. PJ is absolutely right with saying Eian feeds off of playing on the big stage. This kid is a star and between him and Big Vic I think we are going to have a strong NY presence in the Albertus fan section.
This team will be ready for anyone and you could just tell by the way they played the last few weeks that they aren't hiding and really want this bad.
It all starts Friday night. Lets take it one game at a time!!!
Quote from: GnacBballFan on March 04, 2014, 10:32:57 PM
Sorry guys I'm guilty of not watching the whole clip before posting it. expected some highlights. but still, you can see albertus has gotten a gem. still not sure how this kid landed in a d3 school
really?
The troll strikes again. Really, in fact I spoke to Oliver after the first game of the yr and he told me the exact same thing. Keep trolling Charles I'm sure you've seen Davis play tons of times this yr. Ive seen UNH play 5 times this yr, eian would start right now on that team. Get a clue buddy and keep trolling. Your karma rating is great
I guess it's unthinkable that a d3 player would slip thru d1 and d2 schools. Lol clueless
Quote from: GnacBballFan on March 05, 2014, 07:44:01 AM
The troll strikes again. Really, in fact I spoke to Oliver after the first game of the yr and he told me the exact same thing. Keep trolling Charles I'm sure you've seen Davis play tons of times this yr. Ive seen UNH play 5 times this yr, eian would start right now on that team. Get a clue buddy and keep trolling. Your karma rating is great
FYI UNH is D2 so what's this about a clue?
Ummmm thanks for proving my point? I'm fully aware UNH is d2 I went to high school across the street from the campus. So again for Charles I'll go slow. How did eian Davis end up at a d3 school(albertus)? He'd start on UNH(d2) right now after seeing them play. Get it now?
Don't forget Darius Watson also committed to UNH as a senior in high school. He decided late on Albertus after UNH made a coaching change that year. I think he made a good choice: 3 NCAAs in 4 years.
Quote from: GnacBballFan on March 05, 2014, 07:45:31 AM
I guess it's unthinkable that a d3 player would slip thru d1 and d2 schools. Lol clueless
Guessing that other than looking for autographs after games, you don't really know much about the players, right?
Lol your mothers basement must get really lonely at night Charles. Ma, the meatloaf! Haha pathetic
"Dave i was at the MMA v CUA game this year at MMA. I spoke with the kids walking in after the mens game and before the womens game and they were just piling in. They told me that they are required to go to the womens games and the place was packed. That being said, since there was no admission fee, how did they come up with attendence?"
I'm the one looking for autographs lol? I won't stoop to your pathetic level anymore, I've embarrassed you enough and certainly have gotten one up on you. So I'll get back to normal here in the gnac thread and ignore the basement troll from here on outs sorry to the other posters, but just couldn't let this guy who makes no sense and and is condescending go on without getting put in his place
Good night for the GNAC.
#2 JWU defeats #7 Elms 82-62
and #5 Lasell defeats #4 Salve Regina 78-70..
They both move onto the semi-finals.
The other scores were:
#1 Nichols over # 8 Plymouth 82-65
and
#6 Endicott beats #3 Castleton State 112-104.
Lasell plays Nichols and JWU plays Endicott on Saturday.
It's the GNAC vs CCC
Go GNAC!
Both Davis and Watson did not make it through the clearinghouse. That's how they ended up in D3.
Thank you CCC, all I was trying do was say that Davis is talented enough, basketball wise, to play at a higher level then d3.
Absolutely right. Davis is a low to mid major D1 talent.
Thank you, +10
Quote from: GnacBballFan on March 05, 2014, 10:59:17 PM
Thank you CCC, all I was trying do was say that Davis is talented enough, basketball wise, to play at a higher level then d3.
Davis & Watson could've easily played and held their own in a low level D-1 conference like the NEC or Am East, and possibly even a lesser midmajor like the MAAC as well. Hell, the D-1 school right down the street from me (Sacred Heart), either one of those Albertus guys would've probably been their best or at worst second best player this year.
Quote from: 7express on March 06, 2014, 03:09:31 AM
Quote from: GnacBballFan on March 05, 2014, 10:59:17 PM
Thank you CCC, all I was trying do was say that Davis is talented enough, basketball wise, to play at a higher level then d3.
Davis & Watson could've easily played and held their own in a low level D-1 conference like the NEC or Am East, and possibly even a lesser midmajor like the MAAC as well. Hell, the D-1 school right down the street from me (Sacred Heart), either one of those Albertus guys would've probably been their best or at worst second best player this year.
Thanks 7, that's all I was trying to say before it turned into that mess lol
Watched the Elms / JWU game last night. Was very surprised how easily Elms outplayed JWU in the first half. Elms had no problem matching JWU in foot speed, transition baskets, and perimeter shooting. Elms was getting to the rim and finishing much better than JWU. I thought that Barboza made some key plays to keep his team from getting blown out early in the first half when they were down by 12 points. Glad to see Greenaway and Touze come alive in the second half. I am use to seeing JWU roll over the bottom 6 GNAC teams, so it is actually a surprise when they get in a competitive game with a non conference opponent. I guess the lower half of the GNAC fielded some really weak teams this year. One thing that caught my eye, early in the second half JWU got called for setting a moving flex screen. That is the first time all year I can remember JWU actually trying to set hard flex screens, and it was good to see them do that. Hope the NCAA tournament games are on live stream this weekend.
Think it should be streamed SP, came across this while on the D3Sports page on YouTube yesterday...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ24zVFwNS4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ24zVFwNS4)
Alright boys.. My last post before the game... I have to work in NY tonight and tomorrow and don't have a smart phone or my laptop. So, here it goes...
I think Albertus will be prepared to play WPI. WPI is not at full strength and has struggled over the last 3 weeks. However, this team has won NCAAs games before and has good chemistry. They are a scary team because they know what it takes to win in the NCAAs.
I think Albertus wants to play in the 80s and WPI in the 60s. This is St. Joe's all over again but with much better talent. WPI is bigger and plays sound defense. They can also go to more scoring options than St. Joe's.
So, what does Albertus have to do to win. They need to run and get easy looks at the basket. They need to limit WPI second chance opportunities. Hopefully, if they rebound and run, this will prevent WPI from crashing the boards because they will be worried about their transition defense. Albertus also has to hit their 3 pointers. If Albertus has over 40 points at the half, I think they win the game. I don't think WPI wants to play up and down with Albertus. I think they want to slow them down, play solid defense, and make Albertus defend for 30 seconds.
Should be a fun game.
Go Falcons!
Dunk Haven Baby!
Well the day is upon us. I think it's a coin flip game. WPI is still dangerous even with struggling as of late. The week off certainly helped them get healthy. If WPI knocks down their 3's and hope out to an early lead I think they pull off the W. I think they have to get started fast, WPi and have albertus get out of their rhythm and force some shots. If they allow albertus to get started fast I think albertus cruises. See you there PJ, maybe we can get some autographs after the game ;D
Quote from: GnacBballFan on March 07, 2014, 11:42:48 AM
Well the day is upon us. I think it's a coin flip game. WPI is still dangerous even with struggling as of late. The week off certainly helped them get healthy. If WPI knocks down their 3's and hope out to an early lead I think they pull off the W. I think they have to get started fast, WPi and have albertus get out of their rhythm and force some shots. If they allow albertus to get started fast I think albertus cruises. See you there PJ, maybe we can get some autographs after the game ;D
always good to get those D1 autographs. :-*
Yawnnnn
is Albertus always this selfish? First time really seeing them
CCC, I'm gonna credit WPI with playing outstanding defense. Albertus usually moves it a bit more. What a game, what a win. I think I should stay for Davis autograph after that game he just had. 22 points, 5 boards, 6 assists, 2 steals and a block. Clearly the difference maker
Congrats Magnus fans! Now go win tomorrow. Great game tonight.
CCC... Davis really runs the offense well. Albertus is a motion offense, but WPI is so well coached and discpline, they completely forced Albertus into one on one battles. And really the only player they couldn't stop was Davis. They did a great job on Jennings, Watson, Vic L, ad Lersen. Walker and Wiggins were no where to be found. Just a great performance by them. Usually there is a lot of ball movement and open looks. But not tonight. I give all the credit to the coaches and players of WPI.
Thanks WPI.. Hopefully they continue winning. Let's see. Sorry I missed ya at the game.
God Jennings frustrates the crap out of me. I don't mind the shots and misses but after he missed the 3 freebies whenever he'd miss he wouldn't get back on D. Of course the one he knocks down was the biggest bucket of the game as we were down 3.
Yeah CCC we do take our fair share of one-on-one battles but with the way WPI played D and with Darius being hurt I think Davis kinda saw he had to take over and he was giving WPI fits off the dribble.
Another day at the office for Larsen, 9 pts 7 rebs... Timely bucket in the second half on that spin move in the lane.
Love that Larsen line LilDave. He is so steady. Just one of those guys you feel comfortable with. WPI's defense was very impressive. I knew that was their niche but wow. They don't let you breathe, they get right up into you and slash into every passing lane. They face guarded Darius the entire second half and they did an excellent job of shutting him down after the tremendous 1st half he had. It was a hard fought victory!
Big rematch today. Should have never happened but thanks to the NCAA it will. Joke
Such a joke junkie, and hey we get rewarded by beating them by having to travel to them. Makes a lot of sense!
Any update on Watson? Is he ok?
Lasell beats Nichols, they are playing for an ECAC titke tomorrow.
JWU has a 35-26 point lead at the half..
Would be great to have 2 GNAC teams in ECAC championship game
Quote from: pjunito on March 08, 2014, 03:19:32 PM
Lasell beats Nichols, they are playing for an ECAC titke tomorrow.
JWU has a 35-26 point lead at the half..
Would be great to have 2 GNAC teams in ECAC championship game
Do you know if Sheehan played for Nichols PJ?? I know in the first round against Plymouth on Wednesday, he only played 6 minutes, so I think he got injured. If he was out, not surprising that Lasell won, if he was back, great win by the Blazers!
JWU beats EC.. They play lasell tomorrow in ECAC finals..
7, Sheehan played 25 mins scored 27 points. Impressive win by Lasell.
PJ, Junkie, Dave, GNAC & Junkie, congrats on Albertus making it to the second round! Hopefully the Falcons keep winning!
Damn, forgot Dave on my original post :(
Thanks 7! Sweet 16, unreal for anyone who saw this program from 2002-2007. What a win!
Thanks 7.
Congrats to Mitch Oliver and Darius Watson. Mitch has finally gotten to the sweet 16. Darius really wanted this one making some tough shots. He had 4 fouls and blocked Neri's dunk attempt cleanly. Just a great effort by the senior!
I believe they play Williams next. Not sure where, but I am sure the falcons will be ready to play.
7 or Hoops, do either of you know the last time a GNAC team made the Sweet 16?
Definitely not off the top off my head. Probably a while if ever.
Way to go Magnus! Congrats to all you loyal fans. On a train and watched live stats mostly the whole way. Seemed like a tight contest with you in control throughout! Now go slay the NESCAC for all of us.
WPI, thank you! Haha that's the game plan, but it will be tough. Robinson vs big Victor L will be a matchup to see! Can't wait!
Just off the top of my head (out right now) I'd imagine vic would be on Mayer and either Lemar or Darius would be on Robinson. Almost 100% positive he's not their biggest guy.
To Pj, GNAC, lildave and Hoops Junkie, Congrats on Albertus advancing to the Sweet 16. I watched them play several times this year and was impressed with their game. I did think that Purchase was going to win with the game in their house but not surprised that the Falcons pulled it off. I'm happy for you guys.
I'm thinking that the sectional might be held at Mary Washington in Fredericksburg Virginia.
With Williams, Albertus, Mary Washington and Virginia Wesleyan in the sectional the only two schools that could host and won't involve a flight are Albertus and Mary Washington.
Mary Washington has the 2000 seat Williams M. Anderson Center. That's where I think it will be held.
Thanks gentleman, 7, WPI and Magicman. You guys are great supporters and bring so much knowledge to the boards so again thank you again. It really makes contibuting to these boards fun.
What a win. Words just cant describe how hard this team works and how good a Coach Oliver is. What a victory. Cant wait to keep going. That was awesome!!!
Dunk Haven!!!
Magic, appreciate the kind words! On cloud 9 with this team. I remember before Oliver coming aboard and sitting at home games with 7 guys on the team. 3 baseball players who played just for the cardio. I can keep going but I won't. We were maybe the worst program in New England 8 yrs ago. Appreciate the support, now we have the SEC of d3 basketball up next. All the respect in the world for the NESCAC, should be a fun one!
Of d3 basketball in the northeast I should say
Shout out to ALL the Albertus posters on here too, just like the team is an underdog we are the underdog posters LOL. The GNAC is proud today. Beating that team twice who was ranked #1 in their region is an unbeleivable!!
I shouldn't say underdog because I don't consider us that at all.
But by the POD we were placed in as well as the general lack of respect in the regional rankings I guess we are.
Maybe now the NCAA will start watching the teams that they have to rank instead of just looking at a piece of paper with some numbers on it because lets face it, we all can look at a few stats!!
I think the NCAA should just hand over the rights to Pat and Dave. Leave it to the real professional who live and breathe this stuff instead of some suit who comes out at the end February to pick teams out of a hat!!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 08, 2014, 10:57:32 PM
I shouldn't say underdog because I don't consider us that at all.
But by the POD we were placed in as well as the general lack of respect in the regional rankings I guess we are.
Maybe now the NCAA will start watching the teams that they have to rank instead of just looking at a piece of paper with some numbers on it because lets face it, we all can look at a few stats!!
I think the NCAA should just hand over the rights to Pat and Dave. Leave it to the real professional who live and breathe this stuff instead of some suit who comes out at the end February to pick teams out of a hat!!
Even some of the posters on here could've picked a better bracket then the suits in Indianapolis did.
Absolutley 7!!
Hey to be honest I dont really like bashing the NCAA but you just have to wonder at what point does the train wreck stop. Its not just D3 either it s D2 and D1 as well. From the money that they complain about to the ridiculous process that some kids have to go through with transfering or improper benefits!!! Where does it end??? I just think the NCAA is in far over their own heads sometimes.
Things need to be simplified and they are not. I just think its unfortunate.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 08, 2014, 11:28:17 PM
Absolutley 7!!
Hey to be honest I dont really like bashing the NCAA but you just have to wonder at what point does the train wreck stop. Its not just D3 either it s D2 and D1 as well. From the money that they complain about to the ridiculous process that some kids have to go through with transfering or improper benefits!!! Where does it end??? I just think the NCAA is in far over their own heads sometimes.
Things need to be simplified and they are not. I just think its unfortunate.
The only thing the NCAA cares about is the big $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ stuff: Football & division 1 basketball. Anything else, is totally useless and a complete waste of time for the corporate suits which is such a shame. I wish they'd just give the men & women's selections to Dave & Pat, both of whom actually 1) know what they're talking about and B) follow D-3 basketball the whole season, and not just the day before they have to make selections.
Quote from: 7express on March 08, 2014, 11:16:39 PM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 08, 2014, 10:57:32 PM
I shouldn't say underdog because I don't consider us that at all.
But by the POD we were placed in as well as the general lack of respect in the regional rankings I guess we are.
Maybe now the NCAA will start watching the teams that they have to rank instead of just looking at a piece of paper with some numbers on it because lets face it, we all can look at a few stats!!
I think the NCAA should just hand over the rights to Pat and Dave. Leave it to the real professional who live and breathe this stuff instead of some suit who comes out at the end February to pick teams out of a hat!!
Even some a whole bunch of the posters on here could've picked a better bracket then the suits in Indianapolis did.
Fixed it for you! ;D
FYI - suits in Indy don't pick the team and don't set-up the brackets. They may control the money and restrict some of the more creative ideas for the brackets, but the national committee is made up of eight members from each of the regions around the country with a minimum of four coaches (sometimes you can have more than four coaches if the NCAA or the committee assigns them to the committee under their administrative roll for an athletics department - aka a coach who is also an AD, associate AD, assistant AD, etc.). This year's committee actually features five men's basketball coaches, though one is designated by his administrative roll:
Atlantic Region
Linda Bruno
Commissioner
Skyline Conference
East Region
Bob McVean
Men's Basketball Coach
Rochester Institute of Technology
Great Lakes Region
Kevin Vande Streek
Men's Basketball Coach
Calvin College
Mid-Atlantic Region
Steve Ulrich, chair
Commissioner
Centennial Conference
Midwest Region
George Barber
Men's Basketball Coach
Greenville College
Northeast Region
Michael Tully
Assistant Athletics Director/Men's Basketball Coach
Roger Williams University
South Region
Jeff Burns
Director of Athletics
Randolph-Macon College
West Region
Brian Van Haaften
Men's Basketball Coach
Buena Vista University
These men and woman are not paid by the NCAA, they are paid by their own athletics departments or conference offices.
It may be easy to bash the NCAA and the beancounters who restrict some of the bracketing options we want, but to bash the committee under the assumption they are from or work for the NCAA is a bit too much. Would we all have liked a better bracket and different teams selected? Certainly... but that is where simple conversations and arguments can be about without bashing the people who do the job - thanklessly, clearly.
And by the way, complain about Indy isn't why AMC is eighth in the last regional rankings we saw. That was the work first and foremost of the Northeast RAC. They made that decision that the national committee either affirmed or adjusted. From what I gathered, AMC's position wasn't really adjusted much by the national committee. If you are wondering who is on the Northeast RAC... here you go:
Michael Tully, chair
Roger Williams
Commonwealth Coast
Ed Silva
University of New England
Commonwealth Coast
Aaron Galetta
Lasell
Great Northeast
Brian Baptiste
Massachusetts Dartmouth
Little East
Jason Doviak
Salem State
MASCAC
Dave Faucher
Daniel Webster
NECC
David Hixon
Amherst
NESCAC
Larry Anderson
MIT
NEWMAC
Dick Meader
Maine-Farmington
North Atlantic
And the criteria put in place for men's basketball is the same criteria across the board in all sports in Division III. That is approved by the NCAA Championships Committee which once again is made up of institutions or conferences of Division III. Of course the entire system is not actually run by the NCAA, decisions that impact Division III are made by the presidents of Division III... the NCAA just executes the directives - just like the commissioner of Major League Baseball, the National Football League, etc. That person is actually paid to do their job by the owners of the teams and he only does what the owners direct or allow him/her to do. The NCAA and its staff only executes or makes decisions based on the directive or allowance given by the presidents of the NCAA institutions.
I am certainly not making excuses as we all would like to see some tweaks and modifications and we have seen plenty in just the last decade alone... but to just blame "suits" in "Indy" is firing the wrong argument in the wrong direction.
7, WPI, Hoops, or Hoops,
Have any of you seen Williams play this season? I know the names, but not the game.
Thanks for the support and well wishes.
Dave, thanks for the information. You help make many of us better fans of Division 3 basketball. I will still disagree with you SOS... but all in good fun. Thanks for the wonderful contribution you and Pat and the rest of the volunteers do to make this such a great informative site.
Go Falcons!
Congrats to JWU for winning the Northeast ECAC tournament.
Awesome job by the GNAC, as they went 5-1 in the tournament. The only lost was Lasell to JWU.
JWU and Lasell will both be bringing back their best players next year, Hopefully a better group of GNAC team.
Quote from: pjunito on March 09, 2014, 08:37:11 PM
7, WPI, Hoops, or Hoops,
Have any of you seen Williams play this season? I know the names, but not the game.
Thanks for the support and well wishes.
Dave, thanks for the information. You help make many of us better fans of Division 3 basketball. I will still disagree with you SOS... but all in good fun. Thanks for the wonderful contribution you and Pat and the rest of the volunteers do to make this such a great informative site.
Go Falcons!
I've seen a couple minutes here and there on the computer, but never a full game. Duncan Robinson, the big for the Ephs sounds like the real deal and he's only a freshmen!
I saw a lot more of Williams last year than this year, so the big wildcard for me is Robinson. People are talking about him as the best freshman in the country - obviously that's NESCAC talk, so I don't know how much to believe, but he's a tough matchup for a lot of people.
I haven't seen Albertus this year either, so I don't know how the inside game is, but so long as there's somebody decently tall and physical, they should be able to keep Mayer from doing too much. Mayer is a very skilled big man, but he's not overly physical or aggressive, so a good defender can take him out.
Williams has some shooters as well. I do think they were ranked too highly for most of the year. This is not as good a Williams team as they've had in past years. I didn't have them in the Final Four - and as of today, I'd pick Albertus to win on a neutral floor, the way both teams are playing.
Watched both AMC games this weekend. Impressed with the intensity of the games, much more so than a regular season game. Two things that I noticed; first, teams that reach this level of play have no holes in their starting line up. They are solid at all five starting positions. Second, the benches get shortened, no more nine or ten man rotations, only six or seven players get into the games. Players with two or three fouls in the first half stay in the games. I was really surprised that WPI came out in a triangle and two defense, with man coverage on Davis and Watson and zone coverage on Victor L. You don't usually see teams experiment with a new defensive strategy in the NCAA tournament. They usually stick to what they have been playing all year. I thought that AMC handled it nicely. The Purchase was really a hard fought game with both teams goining at each other right from the opening tip. Good games.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 10, 2014, 08:30:51 AM
I haven't seen Albertus this year either, so I don't know how the inside game is, but so long as there's somebody decently tall and physical, they should be able to keep Mayer from doing too much. Mayer is a very skilled big man, but he's not overly physical or aggressive, so a good defender can take him out.
I realize you dislike Mayer because you think he is soft, but I'd love to know who these people are that are shutting him down? Mayer has had 1 game this year (when he is fully healthy and in shape after his injury) that he did not play well - and that was in the 3rd Amherst game against David George where he was held to 10 pts, 5 rb, 2 asts - and that was primarily because he picked up 2 early fouls and sat right away and never got in rhythm. His other 2 games against George: 18 pts, 11 rebs; 24 pts, 9 rebs. Last game, against 6'9 DPOY Miersma he put up 13 pts, 11 rebs - and he did that even though he was sick and had a fever on Saturday. Other "decently tall and physical" guys - against 7'0 260 lb Swords he went 26 pts, 9 reb; against 6'8 240 lb Sabety of Tufts he went 23 pts, 10 rebs the first time and 30 pts & 8 rebs the second time. I think you need to look past your opinion of how Mayer plays and focus on the results he provides. He's scored at least 13 points in 21 of the 24 games he's played in which shows he extremely consistent regardless of who he is matched up against. If I remember past conversations, you think Mayer should be doing more than what he does, but the counterargument to that is Mayer is on the most talented offensive team in the country. I'll get to that below.
Now that we've level set expectations a bit of Mayer, I think this will be an extremely fun match up to watch. Ljuljdjuraj definitely has the quickness and athleticism advantage between the two but I'd give the edge to Mayer in terms of skill set and being able to score around the basket. VL is going to beat Mayer down the floor repeatedly and the Eph backcourt will need to make sure they account for that and pick him up to prevent the easy transition buckets (obviously making shots is the best way to prevent transition points). I expect Williams to play a fair amount of zone during this game which may limit the head to head post play a bit as a result. VL is a nice shot blocker but Mayer has a tendency to do pretty well against athletic guys because he's so unorthodox in a lot of his moves and tends to get guys off their feet.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 10, 2014, 08:30:51 AM
I saw a lot more of Williams last year than this year, so the big wildcard for me is Robinson. People are talking about him as the best freshman in the country - obviously that's NESCAC talk, so I don't know how much to believe, but he's a tough matchup for a lot of people.
I can't speak to the other freshmen around the country so I have no idea how he compares. His numbers for a freshman are pretty impressive.
16.4 ppg 6.6 rbg 1.9 apg 54.6 % 46.5 3pt% 88.5%. He's 6'7 and has range up to 28 ft which makes him tough guard because he's shown the ability to beat guys off the dribble as well.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 10, 2014, 08:30:51 AM
Williams has some shooters as well. I do think they were ranked too highly for most of the year. This is not as good a Williams team as they've had in past years. I didn't have them in the Final Four - and as of today, I'd pick Albertus to win on a neutral floor, the way both teams are playing.
I believe most Williams fans will tell you this is the most talented group of players they've had in a long time, which doesn't necessarily make them the best team yet. This group has yet to play their 'best game' so there is still time for growth and improvement. They are one of the most talented offensive teams in the country, their Achilles heal has been their defense. They've had many games this year where they just haven't shown the focus in the first half, but then turn it up on defense in the 2nd half which leads to better offense. The Amherst games have been the exception for the most part. As for having 'some shooters' I think what makes this Williams team difficult to guard is almost everybody on the squad is a shooter except for a couple of the bench players. They have 7 guys in the rotation that will shoot the 3 at any time which helps spread the floor for their offense.
Now that I've addressed those comments here some original thoughts. I watched AMC 4-5 times this year and have seen almost all of the Williams games. Definitely going to be a fun match up of offense (don't we always jinx it though when we expect high scoring games).
AMC Wins if: They shoot the ball well from 3 and Williams does not. On average, Williams is not as disciplined a team on defense as what AMC saw with WPI. They've stepped it up in the 2nd half of games but haven't really put up great defensive games from start to finish. If AMC scores well from start to finish then I could see Williams having a hard time keeping up with them.
Williams Wins if: They shoot the ball well from 3 and/or play their best defensive game of the year. Williams does not have the defense of WPI, but they have a whole lot more firepower than what AMC saw from WPI. If that game is any indication of how this game may play out in terms of AMC's performance than I'd give the edge to Williams. Foul trouble could be another factor here, Wiliams has a deeper bench I believe and anyone in early fouls for AMC could prove costly.
Quote from: madzillagd on March 10, 2014, 01:27:43 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 10, 2014, 08:30:51 AM
Williams has some shooters as well. I do think they were ranked too highly for most of the year. This is not as good a Williams team as they've had in past years. I didn't have them in the Final Four - and as of today, I'd pick Albertus to win on a neutral floor, the way both teams are playing.
I believe most Williams fans will tell you this is the most talented group of players they've had in a long time, which doesn't necessarily make them the best team yet. This group has yet to play their 'best game' so there is still time for growth and improvement. They are one of the most talented offensive teams in the country, their Achilles heal has been their defense. They've had many games this year where they just haven't shown the focus in the first half, but then turn it up on defense in the 2nd half which leads to better offense. The Amherst games have been the exception for the most part. As for having 'some shooters' I think what makes this Williams team difficult to guard is almost everybody on the squad is a shooter except for a couple of the bench players. They have 7 guys in the rotation that will shoot the 3 at any time which helps spread the floor for their offense.
I think this is pretty accurate. They don't seem to be playing to the level of their talent yet.
I think this is generally an overall down year for the top of d3 talent wise (which is why you see even the best teams playing close games).
For the record, I love Mayer. I think he's the best big man in the country. That doesn't mean he lacks weaknesses. His lack of aggressiveness around the rim is the only way you can hope to contain him. Clearly nobody has had the ability to do it, but it's still the best way to attack him on defense. I don't think there's any question about that.
If he had that piece to his game, likely he'd not be playing d3 ball anyway.
It's not a knock. We don't have complete 6'9" players in d3. Everybody that big has weaknesses. They asked for essentially a scouting report - that's what I provided.
If you were an opposing coach, what would you do with Mayer?
(I also think we may have different expectations of what "stopping him" means. I'd say 13 and 11 is about the best you can hope for against Mayer - that's a stellar defensive performance - most teams would be happy to keep him at 15 and 12, I suspect. I'm not judging the guy by an average d3 performance, but by what he's capable of.)
First, I agree with all of madzillagd's analysis on Williams. I feel very confident that Robinson deserves to, and will, win national rookie of the year. His success as a first year in NESCAC is basically unprecedented, at least in recent memory, and some pretty darn good first years have arrived in NESCAC in recent years.
Second, we've had this disagreement before, I believe, but I actually think that the top tier of Division 3 is very good this year, thanks to a lot of really strong senior classes. For the most part, the teams that were projected based on pre-season talent to be contenders -- Stevens Point, Whitewater, IWU, Wheaton (it took awhile, perhaps, but they are on a major roll right now), Williams, Amherst, Wash U., Cabrini etc. -- have played to expectations. Lots of great seniors among the top teams -- Tillema, Haas, Peters, Mayer, Langan, Toomey, Klimek, and so on. The all-American teams are going to be dominated by seniors this year.
It's next year that looks to be weak at the top. This year, several truly loaded teams returned. But I don't see any team in thet final D3hoops top 12 that won't be suffering major graduation losses. In fact, among those dozen teams, I believe that Cabrini and Whitewater are the only ones that return their biggest star players, and both of them still lose some key players. I have a feeling that Cabrini, Whitewater and Augustana will be the pre-season favorites next year, and none of them look to be nearly as good on paper as this year's elite teams. For the first time in awhile, barring a few more superstar transfers to AMC, I don't see any obvious national title contenders for next season among the New England elite.
For what it's worth, assuming everyone qualifies academically, I think Cabrini will be better next year than they were this year. Rumor has it they're actually bringing in some size down low.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 10, 2014, 08:30:51 AM
I saw a lot more of Williams last year than this year, so the big wildcard for me is Robinson. People are talking about him as the best freshman in the country - obviously that's NESCAC talk, so I don't know how much to believe, but he's a tough matchup for a lot of people.
I haven't seen Albertus this year either, so I don't know how the inside game is, but so long as there's somebody decently tall and physical, they should be able to keep Mayer from doing too much. Mayer is a very skilled big man, but he's not overly physical or aggressive, so a good defender can take him out.
Williams has some shooters as well. I do think they were ranked too highly for most of the year. This is not as good a Williams team as they've had in past years. I didn't have them in the Final Four - and as of today, I'd pick Albertus to win on a neutral floor, the way both teams are playing.
Ok, I'm a NESCAC guy but I watched hundreds of games this year and watched all the top teams multiple times. Also a Vermont season ticket holder. Duncan Robinson is a D3 anomaly. He'd be a stud in an lower level conference like the America East. Bad D1, but D1 nonetheless.
Williams is healthy now. They can go deep. Very deep.
They lose a lot of first halves, so never judge them at halftime. Due to injuries, their freshmen, Greenman and Aronowitz have developed into key contributors.
As a Middlebury fan, I'm just giddy at the prospect of Mayer and Epley graduating.
Don't sell the Ephs short (hoopsfan, I know you don't) because they can beat anybody on a given night. Except Amherst, it would seem.
Excellent insight everyone. As everyone here knows I am an Albertus fan but I have seen Williams play in a few games this seasons. They are very impressive offensivley. There starting 5 has quality players at each postition. But I must point out so does Albertus. Athletically I am extremely confident that Albertus has the edge. Not to many teams in the country can match the athleticism of the Falcons.
The most interesting thing that I am taking out of the NESCAC Posters and Williams supporters is that they are slow starters in the 1st half. As an Albertus fan this is great news because the Falcons are a team that you do not want to fall behind because Eian Davis drives the car and Coach Oliver keeps the pedal to the metal all the way till the compeltion of the game. If Williams wants to fight back in the second half an trade baskets than I am perfectly ok with that because no one except D1 Central CT has been able to do that against us this year.
With all that being said I dont think Williams will allow a slow start to hurt them because they are very well coached and very disciplined.
I cant wait till Friday!! This week of work might as well be a wash. As Dave mentioned on Hoopsville this is without doubt the bigget game in Albertus Magnus history. This is what will push Albertus into the upper echelon of Northeast teams!!
For my fellow albertus fans, an old article in the New York post of superstar pg transfer Eian Davis
It would be helpful if I posted the link huh? Lol
nypost.com/2011/08/11/coming-of-age-davis-sparks-x-men-to-first-ever-ebc-rucker-crown/
Crazy to think OUR Eian Davis is the same one who got absolutely no burn at South Plains, how in the heck lol? I understand he was a freshman but sheesh...
http://www.spctexans.com/d/2009-10/Mens_Basketball/Season_Box_Scores/Season_Box_as_of_3.4.10.html
Only played in 16 of 29 games, 11 minutes on average, 2.4 points, only 20 assists and just as many turnovers (20). They went 18-11, not like they were 29-0. The kid really did blow up at ASA then.
Calling all GNAC Posters!!!!
Just a general question, how deep of a run has a GNAC team ever gone on in the NCAA tournament? I have a feeling not too far. I don't think anyone has ever made the elite eight from the GNAC?? If that's the case, then this could easily be the best team in the history of the GNAC conference.
Does anyone know off the top of their head???? Or does contacting the GNAC website directly sound easier. Perhaps Pat or Dave can help with this question as well??
I could not find any information on GNAC website about NCAA tournament history. I think Dave and Pat would have a better idea. Now, I believe Dave posted that GNAC has 3 wins between 2000 and 2010 in the NCAAs, then of course Albertus won in 2012 and JWU in 2011, so 5 wins since 2000 in the NCAA tournament, which means that no one since 2000 has won more than 1 game in the NCAAs. But, the league began in 1996 and not sure if anyone made it past the second round during that time period.
Quote from: madzillagd on March 10, 2014, 01:43:35 PM
Now that I've addressed those comments here some original thoughts. I watched AMC 4-5 times this year and have seen almost all of the Williams games. Definitely going to be a fun match up of offense (don't we always jinx it though when we expect high scoring games).
AMC Wins if: They shoot the ball well from 3 and Williams does not. On average, Williams is not as disciplined a team on defense as what AMC saw with WPI. They've stepped it up in the 2nd half of games but haven't really put up great defensive games from start to finish. If AMC scores well from start to finish then I could see Williams having a hard time keeping up with them.
Williams Wins if: They shoot the ball well from 3 and/or play their best defensive game of the year. Williams does not have the defense of WPI, but they have a whole lot more firepower than what AMC saw from WPI. If that game is any indication of how this game may play out in terms of AMC's performance than I'd give the edge to Williams. Foul trouble could be another factor here, Wiliams has a deeper bench I believe and anyone in early fouls for AMC could prove costly.
Mad,
Thanks for your insight. I have not watched any Williams games this year. I have looked at box scores and stats and I know they score a lot. Albertus and Williams both average over 80 points a game. My main concern, along with many of the other Albertus supporters, was their ability to play a game in the 60s and win. All teams who want to win in the NCAA tournaments have to find a way to win in games that don't match your identity. That game was the WPI game, they had size and length and were able to slow Albertus down. Albertus had the best defensive half of the year. Now, I think we can all agree that Williams will be a better offensive team than WPI (mostly due to injuries).
As for Albertus - I have seen them play a lot. Davis is a fast point guard. A 2-3 zone does not limit his ability to get into the paint. Albertus loves to shoot the three (but that isn't the key to their success). If they hit the three, it usually means they win by 10+. But the key to their success is points in the paint. They do an excellent job of getting into the paint and either getting an easy scoring opportunity or drawing a foul (they go to the line an avg of 26 times a game). If they have the three ball falling then it is hard to stop them. All 5 starters can score, all 5 starters are not afraid to have the ball in their hands. Watson can really shoot the ball well. Jennings is a streaking shooter. Vic L has a great mid range game. I think they will score but can they defend. I have seen them play solid tough defense but not for 40 minutes.
As for Williams, they have been down countless times at the half and have made impressive comebacks. They lost to Amherst three times this year but no one else (other than SVC). It scares me to hear that they have not played a complete game yet this season. I think they will be confident and run their offense well. I think they have match-up problems defensively, but if they limit Albertus' possession by controlling the glass and keep Albertus off the line. They should win the game.
I hope we all get to see a very fun game.
Quote from: pjunito on March 11, 2014, 03:20:20 PM
I could not find any information on GNAC website about NCAA tournament history. I think Dave and Pat would have a better idea. Now, I believe Dave posted that GNAC has 3 wins between 2000 and 2010 in the NCAAs, then of course Albertus won in 2012 and JWU in 2011, so 5 wins since 2000 in the NCAA tournament, which means that no one since 2000 has won more than 1 game in the NCAAs. But, the league began in 1996 and not sure if anyone made it past the second round during that time period.
According to the conference guidebook that Gordon Mann has taken a ton of time putting together... I can only find a second round being the furthest the conference has gotten.
Here is the guidebook (http://www.d3hoops.com/guidebook/index).
Thanks very much Dave. I knew it would be either you or Pat to come through. Only because of the lack of information on the GNAC website. It drives me crazy, they really need to step there game up with the website!!
If anyone cares, I will be on the call for the Albertus Magnus-Williams game.
Now you get to see them play Live... Awesome. Look forward to watching the game this Friday.
Dave
2 minutes of the Best Gus Johnson - so that you can get in the proper mood for Friday!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqoQpboaTUg
Oh please... do I have to emulate Gus Johnson?!
Batista with the CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHH!!!
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2014, 03:31:22 PM
Oh please... do I have to emulate Gus Johnson?!
You misspelled eliminate. :)
Personally Dave, I think you should try and pull out some Bill Raftery lines. Hes one of the best!
Only because I think the Falcons are gonna be cookin a little late night ONIONS!!!
SEND IT IN VICTOR!! THIS GAME IS GONNA REQUIRE INTESTINAL FORTITUDE!!
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 12, 2014, 04:18:34 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 12, 2014, 03:31:22 PM
Oh please... do I have to emulate Gus Johnson?!
You misspelled eliminate. :)
Touche!
And as for the lines I will use... it has been awhile since I have uttered "ARE. YOU. KIDDING. ME!" in a game... I wouldn't mind having a reason to do it again. I also need to remember the timing of my favorite Gordon Mann line... "something", count it, going to the line!
Foul. Count it. Goin' to the line!
THANK YOU! ;D
Don't forget the Bunnies!!! Not sure why they are on the court, but keep them in mind!
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Thanks ECSU...
It should be a good game and will be a tough test.
Go Falcons!
Thanks ECSU!!!!!!
Now is the time for all good Falcon players to come to the aid of their posters....and win one for the guys on this board. Go Falcons!
Williams is taking it to Albertus. They want to run up and down and forcing Albertus out of their game. Albertus can score, but they need to play defense.
Whoever is working with Dave is hard to listen to. Where is Gus?
It's like we've never seen a backdoor cut before. I understand Williams is filled with guys who can shoot but what's more automatic, a freaking layup or a 3 pointer?
Albertus forced some shots, missed some easy ones, missed free throws, and big Vic played four mins, yet amc still has 42 points. Just can't stop this williams offense. It's impressive
Williams came very prepared.. Very... Plenty of time to play, but they need stops and to convert the easy opportunities.
We can't let guys just drive... Why are we on them 30 feet away, they are killing us driving and back door cutting.
So... we just lost 4 possessions there. Come on.
Need to get it to 6 by next media timeout
Down 7, mission accomplished at 8 min mark. Get it down to 4 at 4 min mark
Keep the defense up and make your baskets... But, Watson and Lersen both have 4, so does Jennings... If I am Williams, I call a play to get on of those guys in a position to pick up their 5.
13 point lead for Williams... They are playing smart offense.. Albertus is so worried about the back door and the kick out three, no one is protecting the basket.
Think that will do it. Just too good a team to come back on with no victor. Think we panicked when we got down early. That will come with experience. Everyone returning except Watson, and who knows who coach Oliver will get in. Valiant comeback from amc. Williams was just the better team tonight. What a career for Darius Watson. Gonna miss him, great kid too. As I'm watching I will say I wish the refs woulda allowed more contact. But hey that's the way it goes sometimes.
Quote from: GnacBballFan on March 14, 2014, 07:15:38 PM
Think that will do it. Just too good a team to come back on with no victor. Think we panicked when we got down early. That will come with experience. Everyone returning except Watson, and who knows who coach Oliver will get in. Valiant comeback from amc. Williams was just the better team tonight. What a career for Darius Watson. Gonna miss him, great kid too. As I'm watching I will say I wish the refs woulda allowed more contact. But hey that's the way it goes sometimes.
dude there still is 4 minutes left.
Reverse jinx Charles, reverse jinx. Williams was simply too good, reverse jinx or not. I think albertus showed they can hang with them in second half, but gotta do it for 40 mins. Heck of a yr tho
32 team fouls, gross. If you told me Williams would shoot 4-19 from 3 and we score 92 I woulda thought that was a 15 point win
First let me say, Great year for the Falcons. No one expected them to be one of the last 16 teams standing. Great career for Darius Watson who leaves with over 2,000 points and number 3 on the Albertus scoring list. Congrats to Mitch for the job he has done with this program. In 7 years he took a team with 7 players (only 4 with high school experience) to a top 25 contender and a trip to the NCAAs 4 out of the last 5 years (his record is 4-4).
Now onto the game. First, Dave you did a great job of calling the game. And you made an excellent point, the refs called this game tight from the opening tip. Williams adjusted and Albertus didn't. There were a few questionable calls but there are some of those in every game. The refs said, we are not going to allow the defender to put two hands on the offensive player and won't allow the extra body contact in the paint. Therefore, Albertus got caught with their key players in foul trouble. I think the key was having Victor L sit for almost 9 minutes in the first half. When he left the court, Williams (led by Mayer) really took over and had uncontested lay-up after lay-up.
Albertus did cut the lead to 7 with about 8 to play. A quick Williams' time-out and a re-adjustment, instead of taking off balance jumpers, let's attack the rim. And it was over. They respond by driving to the basket, getting to the line, and converting lay-ups. Very impressive.
Darius had an off night for him. I think Williams had a good defensive plan, but Darius missed a lot of shots that he usually makes. Lersen was great at gettin to the rim but couldn't convert. I counted about 8 missed shots within 2 feet of the rim and 6 traveling violations. You can't have that and expect to win.
Again, congrats to Williams they went out and won the battle.
Great season Falcons! I'll write about next season tomorrow.
Congrats to Albertus Magnus on a fine season!! Looking forward to see where Darius Watson ends up in pros
On to 2015... lol...
Hey, I don't care what anyone thinks... Albertus had a great year and now it is about trying to be one of the top 5 teams in the region. I think they were top 5 in region this year. I would expect Albertus to pick up a few more games agaisnt NESCAC and NEWMAC teams. Would love to see a pre-season CT tournament. How great would it be to have Conn College, Wes, Coast Guard, East Conn, West Conn, Trinity, Albertus, and Mitchell in a tournament. I think it could work (since NESCAC teams only play each other once, so this way those teams could face each other a second time and you put West Conn and East Conn in opposite brackets so that the only way they meet is in a champsionship game). CT is a small state so you wouldn't need hotel cost. Maybe you can have one school be the host (like Wesleyan or East Conn). You could play this tournament in three dates, everyone plays at least two games. I would do this:
Game 1 Albertus/Trinity
Game 2 West Conn/Coast Guard
Game 3 East Conn/Wes
Game 4 Mitchell/ Conn Coll
Game 5 - Game 1/2 winners Game 6 - Game 1/2 losers
Game 7 - Game 3/4 winners Game 8 - Game 3/4 losers
Game 9 - Game 5/7 winners
How great would that be! lol.. I think scheduling a NJAC team, maybe Purchase again would really help.
This way Albertus plays, A NESCAC, Little East, or NEWMAC team and if they make it to championship at least two NESCAC or Little East teams. Then they can round their schedule off with a Purchase and two teams from Massachusetts, I think that is a better schedule. And who knows if Hoopsville calls.
Now onto the roster:
Vic L
Lersen
Jennings
Davis
These four players come back, they are good enough to lead the falcons to another GNAC title. But, what is it going to take for them to be a serious New England contender.
1. I think Albertus had talent and they are competitors but I think they need a calm presences on the court. Someone who can slow guys down (not physically, but mentally and emotionally). So, do they have someone on the roster who can be that guy? Or do they need to bring that person in. That is a tough thing to recruit.
2. They get Julian Saunders back, he hurt himself this year. He last played in 2012-13 and shot over 42% from threes and was the best on the ball defender Albertus had. If he comes back healthy he can be a big player.
3. The bench has to improve: Wiggins disappeared in the NCAAs, Walker had a lot of energy but didn't play well, Jackson is a freshmen but needs to learn the offense, and Wilson played very well defensively but doesn't look like he is very consistent offensively.
Here is what I would like to see:
a - Wiggins, just shoot all summer, take 5,000 shots. Get into such a rythm that you bury 8 out of 10 wide open looks. Then work very hard on pump fake, dribble and pull up from 15 feet.
b - Walker, good strong long body. He reminds me of Lersen. But needs to play with more control. I would work around the rim all summer. Lay-ups, body drills, where you get hit and try to finish from around 3 feet. Then work on his feet, he got in trouble a lot because big men were able to beat him to a spot. He can't let that happen, he is to athletic to let that happen.
c - Wilson, I think Wilson has the ability to be as good as Saunders. He is a good defender. But, he needs to gain more trust with the coaching staff on offense. He is a slasher and not the best perimeter shooter. But, if he can work on his 10-15 foot shot or a floater, then he can be a big player for next year.
d - Jackson, he will grow into a good pg. He just needs to run the offense and play the system.
4. Starters: There will be 3 seniors, led by Victor and Eian. These guys will be hungry next year in my opinion. Larsen has gotten better each year. I expect them to have a very good year led by three Seniors. Jennings will be a junior and had a solid year. Would love for him to be a little more consistent with his shot selection, but he plays bigger than what he is and isn't afraid to take a shot. Took a big one in the WPI game and one in the CCSU game.
5. Recruiting class. Mitch Oliver's MO has been to bring in a very impactful player almost each year. Let's look:
2008 - Askew
2009 - Lora
2010 - Watson
2011 - ?
2012 - Jennings
2013 - Davis, Vic L
2014 - ?
I think Oliver has strong role players.. they need to improve, but strong role players. Can he get either a very good defensive big man or another Darius Watson. lol. I think having someone who can defend bigs and leave Vic as a secondary defender would allow him to stay in these big games.
OK, Falcon fans, what do you guys think?
Love that idea. Nutmeg Invitational! I would take vacation days to cover that tournament.
I think Albertus has a real shot at being the best team in New England next year when you consider who the other ranked New England teams lose:
Amherst -- the best player in program history, plus two other very talented starters. Just enormous holes to fill with no obvious candidates waiting in the wings.
Williams -- two of the top ten scorers in program history, one of whom is the best center in the country. Tons of talent back but a gaping hole inside.
Babson -- the starting backcourt, including the PG who played virtually every minute
Springfield -- three starters, who encompass their leaders in scoring, assists, rebounds, and blocks
Middlebury -- all-American point guard, plus starting PF and C
Bowdoin -- three solid starters, who were the team's best three outside shooters
Eastern Conn -- the top two scorers
Nichols -- the only two double-digit scorers
This year New England had an incredible group of seniors, but next year, the region will be as wide open as I can remember. Of the ranked teams, only WPI (who loses only one major contributor and should have Coppola back from injury) and RIC look clearly improved on paper, and both of them lost in the NCAA first round. Unlike this year, when Williams and Amherst were obviously two of the top teams nationally, I don't see any truly elite returning New England squads. So, if AMC can add another big piece to help replace Waton's scoring and learn to play more of a team style of basketball, the sky is the limit for them.
nescac1 you make great points.. Congrats on your Williams team (I think you like Williams).
I think everyone will be back and Oliver has been able to recruit some good talent. I think they need to move the ball off the bounce a little better agaisnt these elite teams. Guys standing still makes for easier defense.
Quote from: pjunito on March 16, 2014, 06:49:11 PM
I think everyone will be back and Oliver has been able to recruit some good talent. I think they need to move the ball off the bounce a little better agaisnt these elite teams. Guys standing still makes for easier defense.
Everyone will be back other than Darius Watson, right?
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 16, 2014, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: pjunito on March 16, 2014, 06:49:11 PM
I think everyone will be back and Oliver has been able to recruit some good talent. I think they need to move the ball off the bounce a little better agaisnt these elite teams. Guys standing still makes for easier defense.
Everyone will be back other than Darius Watson, right?
That's correct Pat.
PJ awesome job as usual. NESCAC I sure hope so lol I think Oliver gets a big time player in fur next yr be it juco or freshman. With this team I prefer a juco as it is built to win next yr. who knows maybe Davis or big Vic's old junior college teammates are looking. I know there was talk of big Vic's cousin who plays for Iona possibly transferring in. Just a rumor but something I heard from a good source
Congrats to Darius Watson for being selected to the All-Star game. Have fun and enjoy the moment.
People from various affiliations (including the host of Hoopsville) who witnessed the outrageous behavior of the Albertus Magnus coach (and several of his players) in the game with Williams at Mary Washington take the view that that there is no place for it in athletic competition in DIII or at any other level, for that matter, including events sponsored by the NCAA. It is reasonable to expect to stay tuned for natural consequences .....
Lol yawn. This isn't pre school give me a break
Events sponsored by the ncaa LOL the most corrupt organization in America maybe. It's competitive sports, go cry somewhere else
Games over, Williams won fair and square. It's competitive sports things happen in the heat of the moment. You ever watch a pistons game in the late 80's? My goodness we are so soft and politically correct now a days. Last I checked no T's were given, so to you and your affiliations and hosts of shows good luck. Good luck with what? I don't know bc I'm still slightly confused and amused at your post a week after the game has been played
This Williams Amherst score almost makes Albertus look good! ;D ???
Congrats Successful season Albertus and Falcons fans.
Falcons led grade up GNAC reputation and increase exposure GNAC conference .
Moving ahead to recruiting, I was just curious if maybe any Falcon supporters can chime in -- Obviously I'm not QUESTIONING Mitch's recruiting. He's proven he can bring in the talent necessary to build a program. And I know D3 obviously has limited resources so it seems Mitch spends most of his time that isn't local in the NY/NJ area...but any thoughts on why he hasn't tapped into Mass at all? Obviously Massachusetts has a million schools (a bunch in the GNAC too), but I was browsing NERR and there are a VARIETY of D3 schools listed for Mass' 2014 recruits - Nichols, WPI, Swarthmore, Brandeis, Norwich, Conn College, Amherst. Sure, most if not all of those schools seem to have a higher academic prestige but it seems like there should be SOME talent he could acquire from the state above us...Any thoughts?
I've been told by coaches that the primary decisions they make for recruiting are on available financial aid and facilities. If your school's facilities aren't great or you can't offer the kind of aid other schools can, it's going to be tough to recruit Massachusetts, where the kids can visit 20 different schools easily. It's much easier to bring in kids from farther away (essentially so they only see your school and not lots of other options).
I don't know anything about Albertus Magnus - other than that it's small, relatively young, and the gym wasn't qualified to host a sectional. To me that says, likely, financial aid and facilities are not going to be on par with a lot of competition from Massachusetts schools.
Just a guess.
Well, the Domino season is just about over and it appears that the Saints are going to stand pat again. That is discouraging, very demoralizing and discouraging. I guess that the AD has trouble reading a stat sheet. This Saints program has been the worst team in the GNAC over the last five years, leading the conference with 93 LOSSES. That far exceeds any other conference team. It is not just about the wins and losses. It is about the manner in which all the losses occur and the way that the program is being run. Turning very winnable games into heartbreaking losses because of a faulty game plan which allows mediocre teams to become world beaters.
Besides losing 93 games, the Saints also spent the last five years accumulating 2,202 turnovers , and have given up 9,502 points allowed. The turnovers and the points allowed are only the tip of the iceberg. For the last five years the Saints have had a negative assist to turnover ratio each year, for a grand total of 1,508 assists / 2,202 turnovers. That is just not a well coached team. Any time your players are throwing the ball away more times than they are setting up teammates for baskets that is a sign of a fundamentally unsound team that is poorly coached. The negative assist to turnover ratio clearly shows that the wrong players are on the court, the wrong game plan is being used, the wrong players are shooting the ball, and the wrong development drills are being run in practice.
You can't keep blaming the players for the negative assist to turnover ratio because over the last five years there has been five completely different lineups and five completely different rosters. The only common denominator over the last five years is the coaching staff. How long can the AD continue to ignor 60% of the new recruits quitting the team each year? Doesn't the AD see the parade of players turning their jerseys and quitting the team to get away from this coach. Maybe it is time to stop holding the coach responsible ( his game plan is not going to change ) and start asking questions about the competency of the AD to evaluate a college basketball program.
Hello GNAC'ers, The off-season is hands-down one of my favorite times of the year and while I haven't gotten any specific names it's sounding more and more like Coach Oliver is striking gold once again with JUCO tranfers and specifically one who is incredibly gifted and could be better then what we saw come in last year combined. Its really amazing. I just dont know how he is able to do it but im sure glad he is. If i can gets some names I will post them soon. Recruiting season is what gets me through till Late October and the Falcons never seem to disappoint!!
Saint, sounds like tough times ahead. Even though we are conference rivals I really hope the Saints can turn it around and be competitive. Its hard to beleive that with such a beautiful facility and great location recruiting and the program in general has got to be better. Not to mention great academics programs as well. All the best. Maybe this will be a wale up call for the AD or Coach Jackson
Junkie, I am hearing some juco from Brooklyn that played with eian
GNAC, I am hearing the same thing! I heard he is a power forward with good size and a really gifted shooter. Sounds almost like a Darius Watson type build and ability.
I also heard that Coach Oliver is using his contacts in NJ and scoring down there as well. Marcus Walker was a great NJ pick up last year and I think with a hard working off season he might be primed for a big year. Last years team depth really hindered his ability to showcase his talent to us IMO but I think he will get more minutes this year. If not more minutes I really feel like he will at least contribute more and be more aggressive when he is in the game. I really love his game.
I wish I could get some names but right now all I am hearing is stuff straight from the rumor mill so I guess will just have to be patient.
Here's albertus' top incoming recruit as of right now. Another steal from Oliver, and someone who can possibly fill the void by Watson immediately. 51% from the field, 42% from 3
http://www.unionowls.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/bios/mitchell_shaquille_lrq5
Pretty good game
http://www.unionowls.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/boxscores/20140130_r9ej.xml
Seems like a slasher/get to the rim guy. Him and eian side by side might be dangerous
Wow GNAC thats awesome!
I heard that there are a couple more JUCO players, one who is an absolute stud and at least 6 freshman. Sounds to me like we could have a very deep and talented recruiting class this year. On top of everyone with the exception of Watson returning.
I almost think that its going to be tough for Oliver to motivate and get the most out of his role players when there number is called because with such depth their minute may decline. Certainly a good problem to have IMO but at the same time this goes to show how crucial pre-season and practices are. I have all the confidence in the world in Olivers ability to go with the right player rotations and lead us to another GNAC Championhip and deep NCAA tourney run!
Hey junkie, got even better news! Just ran into coach Oliver at lunch. He said Mitchell is a Watson type player, but apparently some kid from Brooklyn that they call "sticks" is his best incoming recruit. Juco 6'6. I'll get the name. He said this is his best recruiting class ever, WOW
Here he is, played at Hagerstown. Kervin Rameau
http://www.nvdaily.com/sports/2013/02/kervin-rameau.php
Heres Rameau, #33 in black. He scores the first basket of the game and that's when I stopped watching lol all I needed to see lol
Whoops here it is
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9o_1D1mAXAE
Wow. AMC is fast building what Cabrini has done over the past five years, and what Rowan was able to do in the mid 1990's. It's only a matter of time before they appear, like those two programs before them, in an NCAA title game. If Eian Davis can develop any sort of credible three point shot, he can be a first-team all-American. Even if not, with more weapons to distribute the ball to, he could easily average 9 plus assists per game next year. I feel like AMC was one major weapon short last year, but if they can replace Watson with two new stars, and get more out of a deeper and more experienced bench, the sky is the limit.
Given how much talent most of the top 10 teams lose, I think AMC is a top-five, at worst top-ten, team in the national rankings to start the season next year, and is right there with Amherst, Williams, Midd, WPI, and MIT as legit contenders for the top team in New England. Given that Amherst/Williams both lost first-team all-Americans, and Williams lost its coach, I'd actually say that AMC is the team to beat in New England headed into the season, even though those two other squads made it all the way to Salem last year. The only question re: AMC is how quickly all the new guys will integrate and how the pieces will fit togther. If I was AMC's coach, I'd try to schedule top-notch opponents for every non-conference game, to the extent they can find good teams willing to play them, because the competition they face in their league is not a great preparation for NCAA play, which also puts them at a disadvantage. Still, they are putting together a very scary squad.
GNAC, Outstanding Work!!! Obviously you have a great contact seeing it's our head coach LOL. I initiate you as our official inside informant LOL. That's the kid I have been hearing about and he looks damn good. I can see why they call him Sticks!! A lengthy 6'6 combo guard/small forward. Coach Oliver's recruiting ability never ceases to amaze me. Before I forget, a big congratulation is in order to Coach Oliver as I was informed recently that he got married during this offseason. Congrats Coach O!
NESCAC1, As an Albertus supporter thank you for the kind words and early endorsement as AMC being a top 10 team to start the season and possibly the team to beat in NE this year. Toward your point regarding scheduling, I know for an absolute fact that Oliver has tried and tried year in and year out to schedule a stronger non-conference schedule but teams simply do not want to play them because while Albertus is clearly a national power now it still does not look good for any team to lose to a GNAC opponent. The conference really hurts the Falcons but there just isn't anything "right now" that they can do about it. I have been told that Oliver calls NESCAC, NEWMAC and LEC schools every year and he is constantly turned down. There isn't much you can do if they won't work with you and it's that simple. Perfect example is when WestConn and Albertus played each other in Olivers first few seasons. WestConn didn't mind playing the Falcons when they could beat up on them but now all the sudden Coach Campbell won't play them because the script flipped on them? I wonder why? But that's beside the point, the players play and the coaches' coach that's the beauty of this game. But again thanks NESCAC1. While I might have a problem with teams avoiding the Falcons I have no issue with saying that the NESCAC is clearly the best conference in NE and hands down one of the best conferences in the country. Year in and year out the NESCAC produces multiple NCAA tournament teams and national contenders then ultimately National Champions!
I really can't wait for the season to start. All this off season talk just gets me so fired up!
Great stuff GNAC...found another article on Rameau:
http://articles.herald-mail.com/2013-03-09/sports/37586993_1_njcaa-nationals-kervin-rameau-njcaa-district-iii
Couldn't help but laugh when I saw this gem of an excerpt from it...
"The game remained knotted with three more ties in the second half before Rameau broke the seal on the game and started HCC's final march to victory.
First, Rameau — who's 6-foot-6 — made an emphatic windmill-style dunk over ASA's 6-8 center Victor Ljuljdjuraj that shocked the Avengers and took them out of their game while giving the Hawks a short-lived 48-44 lead with 16:50 remaining.
"That was one of the most expressive plays I've ever seen in this gym," Brown said. "It was probably the best finish ever in this gym. It was explosive and really bothered ASA."
Rameau followed up with a 3 from the right side of the key with 10:06 left to give HCC a 58-55 lead it never relinquished. It started an 8-2 run as the Hawks started pulling away."
Whaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttt?!
I was told recently that on top of the two JUCO studs Coach Oliver is bringing in he also has something like 7 or 8 true freshman? Has anyone else heard anything about it?? GNAC, perhaps you can do some digging??
Such a high number of recruits is certainly great news for the future of the program but I'm almost starting to think that there's almost to many on top of what we already have returning??? I know thats not the way to look at it but I think most understand where a problem may arise out of this in the future??
I know there is a "big" and I mean BIG freshman coming from NJ but cant get a name??
Some random thoughts based off of what D3 asked/said...
Last year when I first saw the large number of JUCO transfers my original thought was hmm, these guys graduate quick (obviously). Because of that, you need underclassmen to fill roles and spots that the JUCO players are not brought in for, or to cover if there's a year or two where Mitch doesn't get the JUCO's he wants. Say he only had 1 JUCO come in this year and only a few freshman. Vic, Eian, Lemar, Julian, Walker, Wiggins are all set to graduate this year (if I recall correctly). That's a huge chunk of the roster gone. He needs these guys to cover the quick turnover or if some of the guys don't work out as planned. THEN we hope the freshman are in the Lemar Larsen mold, improving every year to the point where you can't keep them off the floor no matter who's on the roster.
In regard to your point about their being too many mouths to feed, I think of the old addage, "Too many chiefs, not enough Indians." I'd hope the team takes a good long look at that Williams game. Did Williams have more TALENT? Arguably no, but they played a flawless TEAM game where everyone knew their roles. I know they all watch basketball and you can say the same thing about the Spurs as well. Hopefully they can come together like that (a la Anthony Davis' Kentucky year) and realize the team goal is only attainable if individual statistics are put on the back burner.
A final thought of my own...what do you guys think the lineup looks like this season? I think we are GREATLY improved if a combo of either 2 newbies or Sanders/newbie come into the starting line up and have Jennings and Sanders/newbie come off the bench. That instantly makes the starting lineup MUCH bigger, and brings shooting off the bench. Only issue with that is if we go with 2 new guys (that aren't shooters, maybe they would be) that we wouldn't have ANY shooting in the starting lineup and Jennings, Sanders, and Wiggins all off the bench. Might have to start one of them (I think I'd prefer Julian if he's healthy and still on the squad) or even move Lemar and make him the 6th man? Just some thoughts.
LilDave,
As I look at the roster and what is returning on top of the new members of this recruiting class I cant help but grin at the immense amount of talent and depth that this 2014-15 Falcon squad can have. The more I look at it the more "Starting 5" combinations I come up with but here is my official "shot in the dark" pre season starting 5 prediction.....(This is with a healthy Julian Sanders btw because I've been told that he is doing very well and will be back to full strength, Great News!!!)
PG - Eian Davis, no surprise here. Easily the most important player to this years Falcon squad with new pieces coming in. A ship needs a captain and Davis will have the responsibility of running this show and getting everyone involved which he obviously is more than capable of doing. I would also predict that by seasons end he will be an All-American and lead the nation in assists.
SG - Easily the toughest spot for me to decide on, but with that I have to go with James Jennings. This kid as streaky as he was last year is easily the most fearless player I have ever seen and I mean EVER seen at any level. I just keep replaying the 3 he hit in the CCSU after struggling most of the game. Following I just sat their and said to myself right after he hit it that this kid has ice water running through his veins. Absolutely fearless. Julian Sanders and incoming JUCO transfer Shaquille Mitchell were right there but Julian coming off the ACL tear and Shaquille just beginning to learn the offense I think I have to give Jennings the nod here.
SF - JUCO transfer and incoming stud Kervin Rameau, haven't seen him play in person nor do I know much about him other than what I see on paper but as they say "Numbers Never Lie" and he has all the numbers to help me dub him a starter in this offense. He can shoot the ball, shoot it at a high percentage, rebound and handle the ball extremely well at 6'6. I do believe he and Eian played with each other at some point growing up and this combination could be deadly for opposing teams.
PF - Lemar Larsen, another easy selection for me. Nobody has improved more from the start of their career to the end like Lemar Larsen has under Coach Oliver's tutelage. A really special team player with an unbelievable ability to finish anything and everything around the rim. He has worked to hard to not be a starter and his leadership cant be ignored. If they needed him to score more I KNOW he would but with the amount of depth the Falcons have he is the guy who I like to say "cleans up the trash" and every team certainly needs that guy.
C - Big Vic - Another easy selection. I don't think you can find another big man in D3 who is more fundamentally sound and complete a player as Big Vic at the position. I consider him the Pau Gasol of D3 basketball. He can play the post, pass the ball very well and step out and hit the jumper or even a 3 when you need him too. His ability to run the floor has to be mentioned too as well as his uncanny ability to block shots. He is a great defender. He is everything you want in a big man.
Key Reserves - Julian Sanders, Shaquille Mitchell, Marc Wilson, Marcus Walker, Kyle Wiggins, Trevon Gibbs......Anyone notice how you could easily make a starting 5 out of the reserves I just mentioned that can without doubt compete in the GNAC?? That's just unreal!!! I also don't know anything about the incoming freshman, what I do know is they wont start but some I am sure could easily make this list as Key Reserves.
I have said this every year since I've been following Coach Oliver and the Falcons and it looks like I'm going to say it again this year, this team is more athletic and might be the best yet LOL.
I forgot to mention Tieron Jackson in my key reserves. He is without doubt a key reserve because he is the only true PG coming off the bench in case Eian were to get in foul trouble or just require a breather. I love Jacksons game, a pass first PG who can really really distribute the ball. I just hope he has learned the offense a little better this year with a full off season to work on it because he did look a little lost on the court at times last season. He needs to be stronger mentally to make the leap.
D3HoopJunkie, I'm not surprised that AMC has trouble convincing the top NEWMAC, LEC and NESCAC teams to play them -- there just isn't much upside to scheduling a potential loss against an elite team from a lower-tier conference, is probably the way most coaches view it. AMC may need to find some out-of-region tournaments to test itself in going forward. I do think the way they are building the program, a trip to Salem is going to come sooner rather than later.
Here are some more of AMC's recruits: http://www.d3bballrecruits.com/2014/07/albertus-magnus.html
Great post NESCAC... I like that site as well.
I am excited about the upcoming season... But, until these kids enroll, I can't get too excited. By the way, this is pjunito (I lost my aol account information, it was hacked into, and I didn't remember my d3 password, so I am here with a new name)...
OK, I will e-mail my thoughts later on.. just got called into a meeting.
I am only looking at returning players in this post:
Albertus Falcons 2014-15
Starters:
Davis - PG
Jennings - SG
Saunders - SF
Larsen - PF
Vic L - C
The offense will shift from Watson to Vic and Larsen (creating open looks for Saunders and Jennings)
Bench
Jackson
Wiggins
Walker
Wilson
Gibbs
These guys should all become more aggressive this year, take a bigger role in creating mix matches on the offensive side of the ball.
This team would be good enough to finish top 3 in GNAC next year and make deep run in GNAC playoffs.
NESCAC1
I couldn't agree with you more! I completely understand that it's very difficult for coaches at these programs to find a good reason to play Albertus Magnus. As you mentioned, there really isn't that much of an incentive to go and play there and to possibly lose. As good as Albertus is, it also is not a good game for those schools in terms of their strength of schedule because the GNAC is weak overall. I absolutely understand all points but its really just me being selfish I guess. To your idea of going and playing in tournaments I think that is a great idea however I don't know how familiar you are with Albertus in regards to the financial support the basketball program receives from the University but what I can tell you is that its virtually none. Its really quite sad because since Coach Oliver arrived at the school the team has done nothing but improve and win every year and yet the financial support just isnt there. Before Oliver got onboard nobody ever would have thought that this program could turn into what it has become. And no disrespect to the other sports but without basketball you would never hear about Albertus Magnus to this day still. Its sad and needs to change but it wont. I hope it does though because I know for a fact that Coach Oliver isnt going to be around forever and the program will turn right back to what it was 10 years ago....CRAP...and it really kills me to say that!
Falcon2010 or should I say pjunito lol!! Welcome back.
While I like your lineup with just returners I think I can almost for certain say that new recruit Kervin Rameau will be the starting small forward! But im sure you understand that too. I realize you just went with what is officially returning.
I also like how you said the Falcons could finish in the top 3 and while thats the smart thing to say im done downplaying the Falcons chances. There taking this conference all the way again this year and no one is stopping them. The heck with it im gonna play them up this whole year cause after last season they should be played up!! Plus with what's St. Joe's lost as well as Johnson and Wales I dont see any clear cut team who could hands down compete an win TWICE (lets keep that GNAC scheduling in mind) against the Falcons.
Mark it down! FalconPride!
At last, some really good news. There was a major shake up in the Saints coaching staff over the summer. The head coach was retained ( not sure why ), but the top two assistants were not. Since there was no athletic department announcement it is hard to tell if the staff changes occurred voluntarily or if the AD finally decided to hold someone responsible for all the players quitting the team before their senior year. Either way, it doesn't matter.
All that matters is that now the program can start to move forward. At least this was a good start. When the players return in September they will be very pleased to find out that a major obstacle to moving this program forward has now been removed. The main factor responsible for driving so many talented players off the team before their senior year is gone. The harsh, negative atmosphere surrounding this program for the last five years has been lifted. The player retention problems that has plagued this program over the last five years should now be a thing of the past.
Keeping talented players on the team for all four years, developing their skill sets, is a major step forward for this program. Now if the AD would just hold someone responsible for the outdated game plan and the negative assist / turnover ratio this program would really be in position to move forward. A 50% improvement in the coaching staff is better than no improvement at all and should result in a slightly more competitive team next year. Let's hope that the changes in the coaching staff occurred before some of the talented freshman from last years team transferred out of the school.
Norwich add to several players for upcoming season.
Players who from Mass,Virginia,NH also Vermont.
I believe NU class of 2014 recruiting class are most deep talent since I follow Norwich.
Woooooo boys... So my computer at home had me signed up. Pjunito is back..
What is going on? Classes have begun, College football is on, therefore I know basketball players returning and new are just itching for October 15 to get here!
Give me some reports.
If Albertus Magnus still needs a game they should contact the coach at Plattsburgh State. The Cardinals now need to add 2 games to their schedule since they are no longer taking part in an early season tournament that involved a club team. Just like Albertus Magnus, Plattsburgh made the Sweet 16 last year and they return a solid group of veteran players. Would be a good game for both teams. I spoke to Coach Curle from Plattsburgh State last night and he said he called the coach at AM on Monday or Tuesday when he discovered the Cardinals would be playing in a tournament against a club team which he was unaware of. He thought they were a D3 team and just discovered they only have club status. He opted out of that tournament because of that fact.
If any of the AM posters are close to the AM coach you should see if you can help make this game a reality. I thought that either PJ, or D3HoopJunkie or lildave....one of you guys... was close to the AM coach and might be able to put a bug in his ear.
Magicman, what a great matchup that would be for these two programs! I personally have a lot of respect for Plattsburgh after seeing them play a little in last years NCAA tourney. But I must say that even though Albertus doesn't release there schedule till almost the last minute.......I am almost certain that there schedule is complete. PJ seems to know or at least sees Coach Oliver from time to time where as I don't. Perhaps he can forward that info to him because there is no doubt that this would be a great regular season matchup for these 2 now well established programs.
Speaking of PJ welcome back!! Season will be here before we know it and I am hearing a lot of good things about this years Albertus squad. Perhaps the biggest news is that recently I was told and I cant confirm it 100% but apparently Albertus landed another transfer from D1 Iona named Tavon Sledge. An outstanding player out of NY who was recruited heavily out of high school and actually signed with Iowa State for his freshman year before transferring to Iona for both his sophomore and junior seasons. How Oliver managed to pull this off is unbelievable. This is the kinda move that just might be a game changer for this years team. I mean I cant even comprehend the backcourt that Albertus will have this year if it is true. Eian Davis and Tavon Sledge, not to mention returners like James Jennings and a healthy Julian Sanders, that's hands down the fastest and most athletic backcourt in the country. Then you add in a center like Big Vic and forwards like Lemar Larsen and JUCO star transfer Kervin Rameau along with everyone else?? This could easily be the deepest and most talented team in the country!
Just an unbelievable time right now to be a Falcon fan! Coach Oliver is a masterful recruiter and this teams once again seems to be better than the last.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on September 18, 2014, 05:48:23 PM
Magicman, what a great matchup that would be for these two programs! I personally have a lot of respect for Plattsburgh after seeing them play a little in last years NCAA tourney. But I must say that even though Albertus doesn't release there schedule till almost the last minute.......I am almost certain that there schedule is complete. PJ seems to know or at least sees Coach Oliver from time to time where as I don't. Perhaps he can forward that info to him because there is no doubt that this would be a great regular season matchup for these 2 now well established programs.
Speaking of PJ welcome back!! Season will be here before we know it and I am hearing a lot of good things about this years Albertus squad. Perhaps the biggest news is that recently I was told and I cant confirm it 100% but apparently Albertus landed another transfer from D1 Iona named Tavon Sledge. An outstanding player out of NY who was recruited heavily out of high school and actually signed with Iowa State for his freshman year before transferring to Iona for both his sophomore and junior seasons. How Oliver managed to pull this off is unbelievable. This is the kinda move that just might be a game changer for this years team. I mean I cant even comprehend the backcourt that Albertus will have this year if it is true. Eian Davis and Tavon Sledge, not to mention returners like James Jennings and a healthy Julian Sanders, that's hands down the fastest and most athletic backcourt in the country. Then you add in a center like Big Vic and forwards like Lemar Larsen and JUCO star transfer Kervin Rameau along with everyone else?? This could easily be the deepest and most talented team in the country!
Just an unbelievable time right now to be a Falcon fan! Coach Oliver is a masterful recruiter and this teams once again seems to be better than the last.
D3HJ,
This was posted by Coach Oliver on the Men's single games board just a week ago.
Quote from: Mitch Oliver on September 11, 2014, 01:05:15 PM
Albertus Magnus is still looking for one game for 2014-15!! Contact Mitch Oliver if interested at: 203-773-8575 or moliver@albertus.edu
So it may happen yet. I believe it will be on your campus however if it does take place. With only 10 home games for the Cardinals this year I was hoping any late additions would take place in Plattsburgh.
Magicman,
That's interesting!!! Maybe there is hope yet! No doubt this would be a great non conference matchup for both teams! Where exactly is that thread located?? I cant seem to find it??
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on September 18, 2014, 08:31:36 PM
Magicman,
That's interesting!!! Maybe there is hope yet! No doubt this would be a great non conference matchup for both teams! Where exactly is that thread located?? I cant seem to find it??
D3HJ,
It's located on the very bottom of the Posting Up (Division III Basketball) section, under Basketball Open Dates. Click on that heading and a bunch of topics come up. The 5th one down is Men's Single Games. Click on the last page. Or you could just click on "Quote from Mitch Oliver" that was in my last post and it will take you right to it. :)
Or click on this link: ;) http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?board=1469.0 and it's the 5th one down.
Or just click on this link and go to page 7: ;D http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=3699.0
Thanks Magic..... I found it and I thank you again for providing me with a number of avenues to finding that thread!
Hey D3HJ, Sledge would be a huge get! But would you happen to have any insight on why he went from 25 mpg/6 ppg/3 apg in 2012-2013 down to barely a blip on the radar at 10 minutes a game last year? Easy to see why he'd transfer, but I'm hoping he's not just looking for a place to make it all about him -- though I don't think Mitch would allow that!
LilDave, You said it exactly right......Mitch wouldn't allow that at all. His behind would be on the bench before you could whistle dixie. As we all know their offense is much more complex than your typical D3 offense. And with that comes a responsibility to play unselfish and get everyone involved.
As far as his decline in production I'm almost certain he was dealing with an injury for the majority of last year which would indicate why his numbers suffered. Before hearing that he was on the Albertus campus I remembered reading a few years ago about how he was going to come to Iona and be the top replacement for Scott Machado who if I recall was the MAAC player of the year. So regardless of his declining production this is a huge get for the Falcons as not too many can say that they had an offseason where a high level D1 talent tranfered into their D3 program!!
Where are all my GNAC Albertus posters?? Does anyone know if Kervin Rameau is still enrolled at Albertus?? Since he commited I havent heard a thing about him? This may be a good thing but it could also be bad?? Any insight??? Anyone???
I am pretty sure Kervin did not enroll for the Fall semester.
Found myself on Eian's Instagram and I noticed 2 things...
1. In a comment someone asked him how Sledge and him would play together, but that they'd make it work.
2. On a different pic, someone with a username that has nothing to do with an actual name (inkedupbros_ceo) said he'll be there in Jan and he's in the best shape of his life, to which Eian replied, "Let's go get this Ship!"
Conclusions: Tavon Sledge is on the team and someone of note at least to Eian may join the team in January. Don't think it's Rameau as I've seen him on video and he's not all tatted up like this guy lol
Thanks LilDave, social media investigating at its finest lol
I think having both Eian and Tevon together could be a deadly combination and I don't foresee the two of them having any issue playing with each other as both are truly unselfish basketball players. I think having these two together will be extremely important come GNAC tournament and hopefully NCAA tournament time. To have two true point guards with the amount of skill that they both posses in tournament play could really make for some tough match ups for any team to handle.
Basically the way I look at it is really no team can afford to put any type of full-court press on us which in turn can give Coach Oliver and the players time to set up any number of the many offensive schemes that we as Falcon fans have come accustomed to seeing!!
And on the flipside defensively ball pressure should be the last thing we have to worry about. These two together along with our other quick guards like Jennings and Sanders should force a lot of turnovers.
Wish we could find out who that kid is that you mentioned LilDave that will be coming in January??
Sledge IS on the team. Eian put up a picture of the "Big 3" and he was in it...wish Albertus wasn't the last team in America to post their roster/schedule :-X
LilDave,
Unbelievable news about Sledge. What a combination him and Eian will be. Albertus wont be posting their schedule and roster till the night before their first game LOL but I did hear today that on Thursday (this week) Albertus will be holding there "Albertus Madness" which is the annual season kick off if you will. I'm sure all players will be attending and I know its open to the public. Not sure what time I will check on that. It's a nice event to get the players and fans in the mood for the season and also incorporates the woman's team as well. I'm sure they'll be doing a 3 point shoot out, dunk contest and other events for the fans.
Still can't understand for the life of me why Albertus doesn't just charge a dollar for an entrance fee to this event and games in the future. Don't even make it mandatory. Call it a donation and im sure 99% of Falcon Fans would glady give a dollar to see this team play. They can make so many improvements to the gym and to other areas of the team if they did something like this.
Albertus Madness took place last night and from what I hear it was unbelievable. Tevon Sledge and Eian Davis battled it out in the dunk contest with Sledge coming out on top. I heard he actually jumped over a girl on one dunk and went through his leg on another! Unbelievable stuff!
A friend of mine that was there also said he counted 23 players. That's not a typo 23!!! I'm assuming Coach Oliver may make a few cuts along the way and you also have to keep in mind on teams like this with so much talent a lot of times players will make the decision to transfer out to another program with hopes of getting more playing time.
I was also told that there was 2 true freshman who looked like great talents. A 6'9 center from NJ and a 6'7 forward from CT. There names were Marshall and Jaqwan he thinks but couldnt quite make out exaclty. (We all know how bad the sound system is at the Nest which is another reason why they should request a dollar donation at the door for attending)
This team looks deep, experienced, big, fast, athletic and has all the tools to again be a powerhouse in the national rankings! Cant wait for the seaon to start! And a schedule and roster release would be really cool too LOL!!!
Albertus schedule has been posted! They open the year with Lyndon State at the tournament hosted by Richard Stockton (wth the 2nd game TBD obviously). Besides that the schedule is basically the same as last year (as I'd imagine because of home and home obligations). Out of conference tilts include Mitchell, Purchase, NJC, West Conn, and Newbury. One difference in terms of timing is the Purchase game is early, Albertus' 4th game instead of a mid-season showdown.
No roster posted yet.
And I believe one of the two players you are referencing is Jahqwan Walters from University High School in Hartford. Max Preps had him listed at 6'5.
Is the Albertus/Western game @ Western or AMC??
AMC if I recall correctly
Good stuff LilDave......Albertus/Western game is at Albertus and should be a nice non-conference matchup. At the beginning of Olivers era the matchup between these two programs was really a great thing to watch. Just a really nice D3 in-state rivalry between two really good programs. Unfortunately over the last couple seasons the rivalry died out a bit but I sure am glad to see them playing each other again.
I think we can expect the D3hoops.com preseason top 25 rankings tomorrow or Thursday as i saw on the multi regional board that Pat Coleman said it would be out the middle of this week!
I don't buy much into the rankings but it is nice to know where these other programs and their coaches think opposing programs are in terms of strength as well as other peers such as the guys at D3hoops.com and I beleive SID's as well.
Actually maybe Pat or Dave can answer this question for me completley...... How is the panel of voters decided? How many total voters are there? And do they vary every week?
I guess I should have said question(s)!!!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on October 21, 2014, 10:51:12 PM
Actually maybe Pat or Dave can answer this question for me completley...... How is the panel of voters decided? How many total voters are there? And do they vary every week?
I guess I should have said question(s)!!!
I think most of these are in the site FAQ. http://www.d3hoops.com/interactive/faq/top25
Thanks for the info HoopsFan
Quote from: 7express on October 21, 2014, 09:38:19 PM
Is the Albertus/Western game @ Western or AMC??
Hey 7 express,
You don't read your own board? I gave you that info on the LEC board three weeks ago, back on October 1st. ::) Along with the Plattsburgh State game and the College of New Jersey game.
Albertus starts the season at Number 8. I believe that says a lot about how far the program has come in such a short time, when you consider those Ray Askew-led teams could barely sniff the national top 25/top 10 of the region (gaudy record, easy schedule, I know lol just saying in comparison).
Took the words right out of my mouth LilDave. Pre Season 8th is a great spot for this team who has now showed voters and basketball fans that it is not all about who you play but rather the talent that you put on the court. And I think most people would be kidding themselves if they didn't think Coach Oliver and this Albertus program brings in some of the best talent consistently now year after year. Every year they get better and better and go deeper and deeper. Last season to the Sweet 16 and with the talent they return and what they picked up in the off season this team has the ability to go even deeper this year.
Eian Davis and Tavon Sledge is just freakishly good and I cant wait for other programs and fans to watch the games and see how good these two teammates will be together.
I've never been more excited for a season
More nice news for the Falcons as Big Vic was named a preseason 2nd team All-American while Eian Davis was named an honorable mention by Sporting News!
The Falcons were also featured on WTNH News 8 SportzEdge the other day with a nice little piece on their preseason ranking as well as the team and Coach Oliver's outlook on the season as a whole!
A lot of good things happening in New Haven right now for this program!
Publication of the Saints roster is always an exciting time on campus, trying to keep track of all the player comings and goings. Reading who quits the team, who transfers, who returns, is more fun than reading the racing form at Suffolk Downs. Traditionally there have between 7 and 9 new players every year to make up for all the veteran players who quit and transfer in the off season. This year is no different with a grand total of 10 new players listed on the roster. That makes at least a 60% roster turnover for the last six seasons. As long as the coach keeps filling the empty roster spots with new players the AD is happy to overlook the highest player turnover rate in the GNAC conference. Can't help but wonder why the AD is also happy to overlook 93 losses in the last 5 years, also the highest in the GNAC.
Let's start with the transfers. It looks like at least 3 of the 5 freshman from last years team are gone, including one freshman who was named GNAC-Rookie of the week THREE times last year. He played in all 25 games ( 7 starts ), averaging 24 minutes per game and averaging 11 points and 4 rebound for his rookie ( and final ) season for the Saints. Also gone is the junior power forward who led the team in points and rebounds for the first semester before leaving the team and transferring to another school even though he only has one year of eligibility left. I guess he didn't want to spend his final season of college basketball in the Emmanuel program.
The incoming players consists of seven freshman and three upper class transfers. The upper class transfers are important because they fill the holes left by the players who quit from the previous recruiting classes. Let's hope that at least a few of these new players can make some shots without turning the ball over. No idea what the new starting lineup will look like. Last year the coach started 5 new players who were not on the team the previous year which really upset the returning players ( especially the seniors ) and created poor team chemistry and poor team moral resulting in another 19 loss season. Let's hope that at least a few experienced players get to start this year but you never know. Let the games begin.
A few thoughts about the upcoming GNAC season.
Both AMC and JWU return experienced, talented players and should be fairly secure in the number one and two spots. They have strong guard and post presence. They should dominate the rest of the GNAC teams by controlling the rebounding and transition games.
St Joe had a really good year last season but graduated three experienced and talented players from a team that upset both AMC and JWU. St Joe really passed the ball well and showed very good team chemistry. Is that gone now with graduation? Will St Joe have enough experience returning to hold on to the number three spot? Will they fall back into the log jam with the rest of the GNAC teams?
Lasell also had a really good season last year but lost an experienced, talented center. How will they control the defensive lane and the rebounding now against AMC and JWU? Will Lasell also fall back into the middle of the pack?
Can any of the other GNAC teams put enough experienced players on the floor to grab the third and fourth place conference spots? They did not show that ability last year. The fourth through eighth place teams only beat each other last year, and those games were very close. They were not competitive against the top three conference teams. Will that pattern repeat itself again this year?
After scouring all of the rosters that are posted, and talking to some GNAC people "in the know" here are a few roster items (from teams other than Albertus) that may be interesting...
Lasell lost Clyde Niba. He is now at WPI. I think that is a big loss.
Rivier got Javon Williams. Was at New England College. Had a big-time highschool career in Nashua.
Emmanuel gets Kyle Davis back. He was a STUD in JC. Looks like he will be a force inside.
Suffolk has Quinn McCartney on their roster. Was a big-time player in Wisconsin a few years ago. He is an impact player in the GNAC.
Rumors are that Norwich brought 15+ guys in plus a 7-footer. Can anyone confirm this? There is no roster up yet.
Hey Saint, you make some very good points regarding the turnover at Emmanuel. It's hard to build chemistry when the roster is constantly turning over. It's hard enough to add a few pieces and hope everyone gels; but when your losing 3/5 or 4/5 of your returning starters each year, it's almost impossible.
As far as your assessment; I hope the GNAC is more competitive out of conference this year. I think there are some good teams in the GNAC; it would be nice to see some of these teams take a jump forward.
JWU/Albertus should be at the top.
I am not sure who the third team is. St. Joe is well coached, but talent might not be there to consistently compete with JWU and Albertus. Lasell lost some key players (graduation and transfer). I know that Norwich always brings guys in and Suffolk and Riv had some young teams last year.
I am looking forward to a good season. Albertus begins action on Saturday.
Saint-Paul, great post......no question that Albertus and JWU are the top dogs in this conference. As you mentioned who will be 3rd because after that there really is a total drop-off in talent. Believe it or not my money is on Rivier! Maybe a little bold but I really like what there returning and obviously its tough to replace a kid like Poitras but I just really like what they have coming back. Obviously you can never count St. Joes out because Coach Sanicola is without doubt one of the finer coaches in the Northeast and it seems like no matter what talent he has year in and year out he is able to get his team to play hard and play together. Suffolk I believe will be much improved as well!
GNACAlum, nice updates......what a heartbreaking loss for Lasell fans and obviously the team. Losing what they lost to graduation and then on top of it your best player transfers out to another program that move just really hurts and I can definitely see it hurting this team on the court this year as well.
Albertus scrimmaged D2 Bridgeport University last night. I was not at the game personally but had a friend who went to UB and he texted me today saying he was at the game. Basically he said Albertus manhandled BU from start to finish which is very impressive considering what a good D2 program Bridgeport has and they certainly are one of those teams that can matchup athletically with Albertus. So when I got done with our conversation I was more than pleasantly surprised and cant wait for Saturday. He said the two guards (obviously Eian and Sledge) couldn't be stopped. He said there were fans in the crowd that couldn't believe Albertus was a D3 program, our center (Vic) was blocking everything in sight and the team was knocking down shots all over the place. But the biggest thing I took away from our conversation was that he felt Albertus could not only compete in the ECC but win the conference outright which is really saying something.
Does anyone know if the tournament this weekend is going to be broadcasted online? I really hope so because I don't think I could wait much longer to see this team play!
For your viewing pleasure, here's Mr. Tavon Sledge
http://instagram.com/p/vRr7GpAwP_/# (http://instagram.com/p/vRr7GpAwP_/#)
Just finished reading the preseason media interview with the Emmanuel coach and was surprised to learn that the five year rebuilding program has been declared officially over. No mention of the 37 players who quit the team in the last five years, the focus of the article was on the two transfers, 6'7" and 6'8" post players who will make the Saints immediately competitive for the GNAC championship. That is a bold statement since there is no basis to tell if these guys are able to play together or with the other returning players. After all, the Emmanuel coach does not have a great track record in building team chemistry. A more reasonable prediction would have been for no more 60 point losses at home in front of all the students and alumni who support the team. The upcoming tip off tournament with some mid level D-3 programs ( Regis and Wentworth ) will tell a lot about how this season will go. The third through eighth GNAC conference spots appear to be wide open this year and the timing would be right to end the rebuilding process with 12 win season. Let's hope these post players know what a skip pass to the open wing means. We will find out soon.
D3hoops.com just released their preseason All-Americans and Albertus Magnus senior Big Vic....Victor Ljuljduraj has been named to the Third Team. A nice preseason accomplishment for Vic. Just to be nominated is truly quite an achievement when you think of how many players there are in the entire country at the D3 level. He is a fantastic ball player and appears to be a great kid as well judging by the way he carries himself on the court. Very level headed player who never seems to get too heated but still plays the game with great passion. A well deserved honor. He will be a double double machine this year with his rebounding ability and his two outstanding guards in Davis and Sledge getting him the ball on the post where he can go to work and put up points!
D3, I know it was a scrimmage (lot of experimenting I'd imagine) but did your buddy say who started for the Falcons? Did Sledge simply fill in for Darius, with it being Davis-Jennings-Sledge-Larsen-Vic or did another JuCo/Transfer/Surprising Freshman crack the starting lineup?
Lildave, he did not say exactly. Unfortunately he doesnt know the Falcons like all of us do but he did say that the players that started the game for both teams were clearly legitmate starting 5 lineups. If I had to guess I would think your assumption of Eian, Jennings, Sledge, Larson and Vic seems pretty accurate on what our starting 5 will be this season.
SHOCKER SPECIAL: Albertus picked number 1 in the GNAC Preseason poll. 6th straight time...
ACTUAL SHOCKER SPECIAL: Who didn't vote for AMC? Obviously Mitch can't vote for the Falcons so that's one vote, but a second vote went elsewhere as JWU and St. Joes each got one. Maybe it's because we still don't have a roster posted :P
Very shocked! I guess I can take a couple jabs at what coach might have picked against the Falcons but in the end does it really matter? I mean maybe this coach whoever it may be was trying to make a statement? Let the league know that their not backing down to the Falcons? I have no idea but I know the players read the preseason polls including our posts here and I must say......that coach may have just added fuel to the fire for the Falcons. In sports I usually refer to it as the Steinbrenner effect......no one likes you when your on top that's the plain and simple truth but ask Coach Oliver and the players if they care what the other teams think because I can assure you they don't.
On a lighter note.....here is a nice little video that was on WTNH Sportzedge about Big Vic being named not only a preseason All American but an exotic fruit as well.......Just watch the video and you'll catch my drift!!
http://sportzedge.com/2014/11/12/albertus-magnus-students-try-to-pronounce-the-name-of-their-all-american-center-victor-ljuljdjuraj/
Game Day!!!!! Gotta love it!! Good luck to the Falcons and all GNAC team in their seasons!!!
Thankfully the Albertus games are being broadcasted this weekend so Falcon supporters make sure you all check this team out at 5:30. As mentioned it is game day and Albertus is yet to post a roster. I suppose there's always time for Coach Oliver to land one last recruit LOL so they might as well keep it open and wait till 5:29 tonight.
Dunk Haven!!
Roster goes up at 5:29:59.
Dunk Haven!
Great video Junkie. Sad part is there was only one freshmen in that clip. All those students were athletes, there is only 550 students and not one got it right?!?!?!?!
Can't wait to see the rotations this weekend. It's a long season so we have to remember that there will be adjustments.
Go Falcons
Well the Falcons picked up the W yesterday and managed to score 110 points but by no means was it a pretty win. Way to many turnovers, very lazy defensively and they were atrocious from the free throw line. And again after all this they still scored 110 points and won by 28. Goes to show you how good this team really is. The matchup today against Richard Stockton will be a good one. Even tho Stockton narrowly got past a far less superior Wilkes-Barre team this is the matchup that everyone envisioned for the championship game when this tournament field was announced. This will be a good contest for both teams and should open the eyes of outside viewers for both programs.
Gametime is scheduled for 6PM.......Go Falcons!!! Dunk Haven!!!
P.S. Where are all the GNAC posters from last season??? Lets go guys!!
This is pjunito, had to change screen names because i no longer have an American OnLine account.
Very quickly, does anyone know why shaq mitchell didn't play for Albertus?
Well let's recap the Saints Tip Off tournament. The week started
with the coach making a bold announcement in the preseason media
interview that the five year rebuilding program has been declared
officially over. The two transfers, 6'7" and 6'8" post players are
suppose to make the Saints immediately competitive for the GNAC
championship. That statement may have been a tad premature !
In the opening game of the home tip off tournament the Saints got blown out
by Regis, a team that only won 11 games last year. Emmanuel was down by
25 points most of the second half. The Saints trademark full court man
press held Regis to 51% shooting from the field and provided Regis with
excellent shot selection. Meanwhile, the Saints were launching 18 three
point shots, making just 4, while committing 19 turnovers. Has the
rebuilding program really ended ? Those stats sound exactly the same as
last years team, only with different names and jerseys numbers.
In the consolation game the Saints eeked out a 47 - 40 third place
win over a terrible Wentworth team. The score was 19 to 15 at half time
with both teams having more turnovers than field goals. Once again the
Saints totaled 20 turnovers and shot 3 for 12 from the 3 point arc.
Hardly a statement game that will scare the GNAC foes.
In two games the 6'8" transfer totaled 14 points and the 6'7"
transfer totaled 18 points. The Saints fans should be a little hesitant
to run out and purchase NCAA tickets on the basis of this tip off
tournament.
Now for the good news. Only one player quit the Emmanuel team
this week. The published roster went from 16 down to 15 players this
week. By last years standards that was a success.
I went to the game tonight at Richard Stockton. Here's my recap reposted from the Top 25 Board:
QuoteI went to Stockton tonight. Google gave me the wrong exit number twice, but I got there in plenty of time. I did not meet TGHIJGSTO!, but if this game is indicative of how things go there, I can understand why he is as he is.
I'll start with overall impressions, then address each team:
I've never been part of such a clusterf*** of a game. I know it is early in the season, but it was a parade of "what will happen next." The refs blew a few calls early (it is the beginning of their season, too) and the players and coaches got on them hard. I would have called a T on both teams within the first 90 seconds. I've never seen refs put up with that kind of abuse. In the first half, it was totally unjustified - but the emotional energy of the outrage had opposite effects on the teams. Eian Davis from AMC just lost his mind early on and was never a factor. Whereas Stockton used the energy to lock down and focus. They got out to a huge lead.
In the second half, the refs seemed to give into pressure and just started failing left and right. I have absolutely no ties to either team, but it was just such a clueless half of officiating. They had to stop the game twice to clean blood off the floor, but the refs refused to call anything but touch fouls. A handcheck up top or a hand brushing an arm on a block attempt drew quick whistles - nailing some guy with an elbow got a play on.
At one point, one of the Stockton guards drove the lane and gave such a blatant push-off that even the home crowd was all murmuring "charge." The side ref, with a perfect view called offensive foul, the guy behind the basket, blocked by the defender, called block. The guy with the view deferred. It was a huge momentum swing and foul #3 on Big Vic from AMC, early in the second half.
Things got worse from there. Not just the refs, but the players were so out of control and wild. At one point I said out loud, "it's as if no one on that floor has ever seen a basketball game before," and got a lot of nods all around.
I expected Albertus to be the in-form squad, with them returning so much of their core - while Stockton would have to be working through chemistry issues, bringing back only four players from last year. It was exactly the opposite. Stockton restocked very well. I think they're deeper and more well rounded than the Sweet 16 team from last season. They've got a ways to go, as every team does this time of year, but they'll be formidable for anyone. Josh Blamon showed his class early, keeping his team locked-in and together. He didn't appear much in the stat sheet, but made a steal and three-point play with about 90 seconds to go that sealed the game. It was a huge spot and a great play.
As for Albertus, I have no idea where to start. They were clearly the best team on the floor and will be among the best in the country - but they were undisciplined and arrogant. There's not even a fine line between arrogance and confidence and Albertus leapt across it. They seemed to expect to win, to get every call. I came in excited to see Davis play, but he was such a headcase. Held scoreless early, he spent five minutes of the sideline after getting poked in the eye. When he did play early in the second half, he was too emotional to stay on the floor and got himself benched.
Big Vic is among the most athletic big men I've ever seen in d3. He's a jumper, great with body-control and smart. Unfortunately he isn't very assertive and his teammates just forgot he existed. Every time they went to him, they either got a basket or a kick-out. They just so rarely looked inside it didn't even matter when he fouled out. To think they're wasting such an advantage is mind-blowing.
The big revelation for me is Tavon Sledge. He scored something like 32 against Lyndon last night, so I knew he was good, but he's very good. Only 5'9", he had a couple of huge dunks - they even tried to run an alley-oop to him in traffic, which would have worked if it hadn't been telegraphed so thoroughly every person in the gym knew it was coming. Sledge is fast, has a killer handle, and incredible court vision. He's an All-American type point guard for sure. I haven't seen anyone so naturally understand everything happening on the court all at once since Cory Lemons. Sledge isn't as good as Lemons and he's much shorter, but when he's got the ball you just know everything is moving slower for him than for everyone else.
The rest of the team worked hard and they had a pretty good stretch in the second half, but most of the game consisted of stupid turnovers, poor decision-making, and lazy defense. They have the depth and athleticism to run, which is what they tried to do, but I wouldn't trust anyone but Vic and Sledge to make good decisions. If I were coaching that team, with the skills they bring and the shooters they have, I'd be running a half court set every time. Get the ball in to Vic, let him work or dish.
The biggest tragedy of the whole thing is that AMC doesn't have a single other team on the schedule who will challenge them to work on what they'll need to contend for a national title. They certainly have the talent to do it, but they're going to get away with sloppy play and turnovers all year, winning on talent alone. I don't see any way they improve enough to get farther than they did last year without a serious, award-worthy coaching job. Sad.
In the end, both teams are likely Top-15 caliber (Albertus could be Top 5, but we'll never see them against an opponent good enough to be able to tell for sure). I'll know better when I see the Hoopsville Tourney next Saturday and get a broader sense of how teams are playing.
Love the recap Hoops Fan, I was checking in on the game periodically. I did notice a lack of Davis in the second half (texted my buddy about it) and wondered why.
As far as I can remember, we've always had issues feeding the post and I don't know why. Even when we had Ray Askew and Jefferson Lora on the same team we wouldn't dump it down. Ray was just athletic enough that he could get to the rim at will so he didn't need to catch it right on the block, and Jeff (much like Vic now) seemed to never DEMAND the ball.
Hopefully this is a wakeup call that they can't just walk on the court and win, but like you said (and everyone in the D3 world knows) they won't face much in terms of oppostion until that first round NCAA tournament game.
Quote from: lildave678 on November 17, 2014, 11:46:16 AM
Love the recap Hoops Fan, I was checking in on the game periodically. I did notice a lack of Davis in the second half (texted my buddy about it) and wondered why.
As far as I can remember, we've always had issues feeding the post and I don't know why. Even when we had Ray Askew and Jefferson Lora on the same team we wouldn't dump it down. Ray was just athletic enough that he could get to the rim at will so he didn't need to catch it right on the block, and Jeff (much like Vic now) seemed to never DEMAND the ball.
Hopefully this is a wakeup call that they can't just walk on the court and win, but like you said (and everyone in the D3 world knows) they won't face much in terms of oppostion until that first round NCAA tournament game.
Maybe not even then. The whole first half I kept thinking it looked like a second or third round tournament game. I was amazed at how well Stockton was playing, given how many new faces they brought in. I don't think it's going to help the AMC players any that everybody knew who the best team was out there, even if they didn't put enough together to win. They're not going to feel like they got beat, which is sometimes helpful for buckling down.
Don't usually comment on other peoples games but after returning
from the Saints tip off tournament I did watch the second half of the
AMC - Stockton game on live stream. I was really surprised at how
quickly the AMC guards were shooting perimeter jump shots in transition.
Sometimes with as much as 31 seconds still on the shot clock. They
were so anxious to shoot the ball they were putting up contested shots
before Victor L even crossed half court. I only saw Victor get two
touches in the second half, a lob inbounds play and an offensive put back.
I understand that when you have quick, athletic guards you do want
to push the ball down court quickly, but that is usually for the purpose
of getting to the rim in transition, scoring layups or getting fouled.
The AMC guards did none of those things, they pulled up at the arc and
shot the first available jumper. If they had waited just a few more
seconds in transition and given Victor a quick touch on the low post it
would have collapsed the Stockton defense into the lane and opened the
guards for a quick kick out and uncontested jump shots or driving layups
on the weak side of the lane.
Even if the guards had waited for Victor to reach the top of the
key in transition they could have reversed the ball through him and then
allowed him to attack the offensive glass when they launched one of
their perimeter shots. It appeared on the screen that the AMC guards
were taking Victor out of the game more so than the Stockton defenders.
AMC has very quick, athletic guards who can score and defend to go
along with a talented big man in the paint. A nice combo that most D-3
schools don't have. There are 23 more games to get the right chemistry
together to make a run in the NCAA tournament. Good Luck.
It was even worse at the end of the first half. AMC tried to get back in the game by shooting quick threes, rather than playing good defense and making smart passes (which would have worked, easily). It was only at the very end when they played tight defense and drove the lane consistently that they got back into things. Still a sloppy game, but I expect we'll really see how good the coaching is by the way these guys are playing at the end of the season.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on November 17, 2014, 12:33:17 PM
Quote from: lildave678 on November 17, 2014, 11:46:16 AM
Love the recap Hoops Fan, I was checking in on the game periodically. I did notice a lack of Davis in the second half (texted my buddy about it) and wondered why.
As far as I can remember, we've always had issues feeding the post and I don't know why. Even when we had Ray Askew and Jefferson Lora on the same team we wouldn't dump it down. Ray was just athletic enough that he could get to the rim at will so he didn't need to catch it right on the block, and Jeff (much like Vic now) seemed to never DEMAND the ball.
Hopefully this is a wakeup call that they can't just walk on the court and win, but like you said (and everyone in the D3 world knows) they won't face much in terms of oppostion until that first round NCAA tournament game.
Maybe not even then. The whole first half I kept thinking it looked like a second or third round tournament game. I was amazed at how well Stockton was playing, given how many new faces they brought in. I don't think it's going to help the AMC players any that everybody knew who the best team was out there, even if they didn't put enough together to win. They're not going to feel like they got beat, which is sometimes helpful for buckling down.
You're probably right, but I meant that in the sense that WHOEVER it is, they'll be better than anything the GNAC throws at them.
Well, another 20 point loss for the Saints last night ( Wesleyan 76 - 54 ) to a team that won only 11 games last year. That is the second time that has happened already and the season is only 3 games old. What is going to happen when they play a team that had 15 wins last year, are they going to lose by 30 ? The Emmanuel coach used his third different starting line up last night. That is three new line ups in the first three games. Two starters from the tip off tournament were buried on the bench last night. After four weeks of practice how is it possible that the coach doesn't know who is 5 best players are? Everyone played so there were no injuries. The Saints have 49 turnovers in their first three games, and have only made 11 of 46 three point shots. It is hard to be a competitive team when you keep missing shots and throw the ball away.
Different subject ; watched the first half of the Lasell / RIC game last night and was surprised at how well Lasell has adjusted to not having their dominate center in the game. Lasell spread the floor, used their foot speed and decent outside shooting to give RIC a good game for the first 20 minutes. It looked like they have a few guys stepping up and trying to fill the void in the center position.
Hey Hoops. I am sorry it took so long to get back to your post. All I can say is, completely agree with everything you said. I am not a big fan of the crying that goes on during college basketball games, but unfortunately, it happens a lot. Point is, good team basketball wins 90% of the time. I am hoping this team finds that chemistry of sharing the ball and doing the little things right; Rebounding, playing good help defense, hitting free throws..
Hopefully it can happen.
Hey Saint,
Man, do I love reading your post. I sincerely hope that Emmanuel makes changes and becomes a competitive program again. All I know is that I would love to sit next to you at a game this year. You have common sense insight. Every time I read your post I think of the 30 for 30 on the Pony Express (SMU football). The year after they got their team back, they had a bunch of walk on play. One of the guy being interview with a straight face says " we weren't big but we weren't fast either". Great line. That is what I think of when reading your post. Like, somehow wearing a Saint uniform instantly prevents anyone from playing the game of basketball at a competitive level.
Three starting line-ups in 3 games says a lot about the coaching staff. I can understand mis-evaluations when it comes to who to play and when to play them. But, how can anyone build chemistry when there is no consistency? Maybe the coach meant that the rebuilding ends after first semester. Mid year guys who will catch everyone by surprise.
New poster to the GNAC board. I have a special interest in Lasell. I will be interested to see how they compete in what appears to be a conference with a wide range of competitive programs.
After watching parts of Lasell's first two games against teams that were NCAA participants last year and see the Lasers as a work in progress.
Welcome Warriorcat! Gnac boards are usually quiet until conference play begins. Lasell lost their big man that was a big blow. But, they usually are in the top 4 in the GNAC each year. It will be interesting to see if they are still the team that loves taking the 3 point shot like in years past.
Welcome aboard Warriorcat! It will be great to get another perspective on here as the this board (with the exception of St. Paul) has been dominated over the last few years by Albertus fans!
Lasell has a great reputation and over the years has been very competitive both in conference and out of conference. Coach Galletta is a very well respected Coach in the Northeast and his teams are always well prepared.
Looking forward to your posts!
I saw my first Lasell game live today at Nichols. Hot shooting display by Nichols in the first half (62% FG including 10-20 3FG) catapulted the Bison to a 58-37 lead at the break. Lasell battled back and came as close as seven with eight minutes to play. Unfortunately they were too far back and they fell 86-76. I am hoping to seem them at home on Tuesday when they host Brandeis.
Last week I was complaining because the Saints lost twice to two teams that only won 11 games last year. Well this week they did one better. Emmanuel lost at home to a team that they actually beat last year. The Saints only won 6 games last year and Westfield was one of those wins. Unfortunately they could not repeat that effort again this year. The Saints lost to Westfield 81 - 69 on a complete second half defensive collapse. After holding a 9 point half time lead, the Saints came out of the locker room and gave up 60 points in the second half. That is not a typo, SIXTY points , in 20 minutes of basketball. Most college teams don't give up sixty points in an entire game, but Emmanuel continues to find new ways to surprise it fans, especially when playing at home in front of students and alumni. What kind of well coached college team gives up 60 points in a half ?
The Emmanuel coach used a new starting line up again on Saturday. That makes four for four in the starting line up department. No wonder they don't show any cohesive team play on the court. Once again the two key factors in the game were poor shooting, 20% from behind the arc, and not taking care of the ball ( 23 turnovers ). One player already quit the team during the tip off tournament, I will have to scan the roster on Monday to see if any more players have had enough already.
Tried to watch the replay of the St Joe games but they are charging $10.95 to log on ( outrageous ) so I checked out the box scores for free. St Joe has lost it's first two games but both games were close and St Joe is still shooting the lights out. The Monks have made 28 three point shots in 2 games and are shooting 45% from behind the arc. They are also still moving the ball again this year, recording 32 assists in their first two games. I was hoping I could watch the video for free because that is how I enjoy seeing the game played. I keep hoping that my Saints will start playing that way but the chances of that happening look very dim. The Saints have only made 13 three point shots so far through 4 games and have accumulated 72 turnovers already. Not exactly the stats of a team that moves the ball looking for open shots.
I can honestly say I now root for Emmanuel solely so Saint-Paul has something positive to talk about haha. I imagine this is somewhat what it must have been like to be an Albertus fan before the Mitch Oliver era.
Tomorrow's game with Purchase has lost the luster it had last year. Granted, it's an away game against a team with revenge on its mind (beat them twice last year) but it seems they're decimated by injuries - including losing the big man Neri for the season. They're 0-5 to start this young season. I hope the Falcons aren't so aware of this and still come ready to play.
I was at EC for their tournament and saw Purchase lose to Newbery. Unfortunately, if Albertus comes to play, this will not be close. Purchase is a shell of the team that they were last year (I understand injuries have played a big part).
Without Neri they are nothing.
The losses to cabrini & Catholic were kinda expected (those were the 2 reasons why I dropped Purchase from my undefeated team in the undefeated pool and went with Western), and the losses to Colby & Manhattanville can be explained: Manhattanville because it's the rivalry game, Colby because they are a pretty good team. Even though Colby ended up getting killed by Eastern Connecticut in the finals of that tournament, Colby did beat Amherst last season.
The loss to Newbury was just bad and told me they had something seriously wrong. Newbury was 3-22 last season and have lost every game this year by 13 or more points, including the last 2 against teams that finished a combined 14-38 last year.
Dave Mchugh said Purchase has seven guys out with injury right now. That's rough. The team I saw was barely a team. They looked like five guys at the Y. They do expect to be back in form after the holidays. If they can still win their conference, these losses won't matter too much.
Lasell defeated Brandeis for its first win of the season 64-60. Balanced scoring for the Lasers (three players in double figures) highlighted by a double-double (14pts 10 rebs)by Pat Marchand. The Lasers played good defense down the stretch and knocked down all four free throws in the final 15 seconds. Coach Galetta shortened his bench tonight and played his more veteran players the majority of the game. They looked more like a team tonight than they have at any point in their previous three games. I would like to think that this team willget better as the season progresses.
AMC defeats Purchase 86-82. Based on previous results and injuries this is an unpleasant result. As I said earlier it was still a road game against a team looking for payback but a team that loses to Newbury shouldn't be within 20 of the Falcons talent wise...there was no video but let's hope the kids were aware of Purchase's early season shortcomings and took the night off.
Saints win, unbelievable, the Emmanuel Saints finally put two good halves together to win a game at home. Wheaton won only 9 games last year but still a win is a win. The Saints guard that was buried on the bench after the tip off tournament was back in the starting line up last night and knocked down 22 points leading the team to an 80 - 65 victory over Wheaton. It makes a big difference when you don't give up 60 points in a half and don't commit 23 turnovers. Good win for the Saints.
Different Subject - I also saw the Anna Marie Amcats on live stream win over Clark and thought they moved the ball well. The don't have any star players but their two starting forwards can finish in the paint and their guards can knock down open three's. They showed good team chemistry in beating Clark. The only thing I didn't understand was the Amcats match up zone. Every time the ball got reversed they ended up with a guard defending a Clark forward on the strong side block. Don't know if they were running a long switch or how they ended up in that position, but Clark was taking advantage of that switch all night. It kept Clark in the game. Do any Amcat fans understand their match up zone? The Amcats looked like a competitive team that will contend for the 3 rd or 4 th playoff spot.
Watched the ST Joe / S Maine game tonight on live stream. St Joe is a really small team with four guards and one forward. Yes, they run their sets well, especially the triangle offense, the guards are aggressive they attack the rim, and make shots , but they cannot keep anyone out of the paint, they are not super athletic, and they cannot control the rebounds. St Joe lost by a lot to an OK S Maine team and just did not look as sharp as last year. I don't see any big upsets in their future this year. It still looks like the 3 rd and 4 th GNAC playoff spots are still wide open. I have not seen any GNAC teams that look like they can dominate the 3 rd or 4 th spots. All the conference games will be meaningful this year even late into February.
Different Subject - checked out the JWU / Brown University box score. It was an 8 point game at halftime and ended up a 10 point game. JWU only lost the second half by 2 points. That is pretty impressive, especially since JWU is starting 4 guards and one forward. They must be very athletic.
Another bad loss for the Saints again last night. The game against Rivier was a very winnable game. The Saints had bigger, stronger post players, and quicker, more athletic guards, and yet they managed to lose to Rivier 71 - 61. Rivier ran a simple flex offense. They didn't even use any flex options, just plain baseline screens followed by down screens. How hard is it to defend a plain flex ? You know where the cuts are coming from, don't you ? Rivier played a tight 3 - 2 zone at the defensive end of the court with all 5 players packed in below the 3 point line, daring the Saints to shoot over top and it worked. A smart move by the Rivier coach since Emmanuel missed 41 field goal attempts in 40 minutes of play. They shot 17 % behind the 3 point arc.
Different Subject : a quick check of the Saints roster shows another player quit the team over the Thanksgiving break. The roster now lists only 14 players when they started the year with 16. That is 2 so far this year that couldn't take any more. The Saints average 6 players quitting the team per year so this is probably just the beginning. The Saints have the worst player retention record in the GNAC conference over the last six years.
Really bad lost by the Saints. Some of the other boards were saying that Rivier might be one of the worst teams in New England this year; I think they lost a game by almost 60 points already. I might need someone to double check that. Poor thing for the Saints, they have more guys quit so far than wins.. Maybe the AD will read this post.
As for the Falcons - they won 96-80 over Anna Maria to begin their conference play. I wasn't at the game, but heard that Albertus controlled the game from the beginning, having as large as a 28 point lead at one point. Quick check of the box socre - Vic L had 22 pts, 13 boards, and 7 blocks. the back court of Davis and Sledge combine for 17 points and 14 assists. Big nights for Wiggins and Larsen combining for 39 points on 13 of 16 from the floor (Larsen didn't miss a shot).
However, free throw shooting is still awful! 55% last night. All hopes of any run ends if this team can make free throws at a 75% clip and reduced turnovers to under 13 per game (yes, 13 is still a lot) or better yet under 5 non deadball turnovers.
Albertus Host JWU on Tuesday. This should be very fun!
Also don't like that they were outscored in the 2nd half, albeit the game being in control. When it matters that halftime lead won't be nearly as big (or a lead at all) and they'll need to learn that killer instinct.
A couple of surprising scores from last night I thought.
I was definitely shocked that Rivier beat Emmanuel. Also, Mt. Ida only down 2 at the half at JWU and only losing by 15 is a pretty good sign that they are improved. I thought Lasell's size would help them vs. St. Joe's - it didn't! St. Joe's shot 66.7% from the field for the game...wow! Finally, Suffolk blew out Norwich, I thought that one would be closer. Some interesting games tomorrow. I will definitely watch JWU vs. Albertus - should be a fun one!
Quote from: falcons2010 on December 03, 2014, 01:14:06 PM
Really bad lost by the Saints. Some of the other boards were saying that Rivier might be one of the worst teams in New England this year; I think they lost a game by almost 60 points already. I might need someone to double check that. Poor thing for the Saints, they have more guys quit so far than wins.. Maybe the AD will read this post.
As for the Falcons - they won 96-80 over Anna Maria to begin their conference play. I wasn't at the game, but heard that Albertus controlled the game from the beginning, having as large as a 28 point lead at one point. Quick check of the box socre - Vic L had 22 pts, 13 boards, and 7 blocks. the back court of Davis and Sledge combine for 17 points and 14 assists. Big nights for Wiggins and Larsen combining for 39 points on 13 of 16 from the floor (Larsen didn't miss a shot).
However, free throw shooting is still awful! 55% last night. All hopes of any run ends if this team can make free throws at a 75% clip and reduced turnovers to under 13 per game (yes, 13 is still a lot) or better yet under 5 non deadball turnovers.
Albertus Host JWU on Tuesday. This should be very fun!
They lost to Plymouth by more than 50!
Quote from: 7express on December 03, 2014, 07:27:23 PM
Quote from: falcons2010 on December 03, 2014, 01:14:06 PM
Really bad lost by the Saints. Some of the other boards were saying that Rivier might be one of the worst teams in New England this year; I think they lost a game by almost 60 points already. I might need someone to double check that. Poor thing for the Saints, they have more guys quit so far than wins.. Maybe the AD will read this post.
As for the Falcons - they won 96-80 over Anna Maria to begin their conference play. I wasn't at the game, but heard that Albertus controlled the game from the beginning, having as large as a 28 point lead at one point. Quick check of the box socre - Vic L had 22 pts, 13 boards, and 7 blocks. the back court of Davis and Sledge combine for 17 points and 14 assists. Big nights for Wiggins and Larsen combining for 39 points on 13 of 16 from the floor (Larsen didn't miss a shot).
However, free throw shooting is still awful! 55% last night. All hopes of any run ends if this team can make free throws at a 75% clip and reduced turnovers to under 13 per game (yes, 13 is still a lot) or better yet under 5 non deadball turnovers.
Albertus Host JWU on Tuesday. This should be very fun!
They lost to Plymouth by more than 50!
I thought it was 49. Maybe we're talking about different game.
Actually now that you said it 81-32 really only is 49. Sure seems like it was more than 50 though.
I don't know how connected anybody is to Albertus, but it seems like, the last two games, they've really focused on getting the ball down low. Was that just coincidence or are they figuring this out? With the guards they have, the shooter, and the defense, throwing it down to an all-american under the basket might be a good way to win lots of games against good teams.
Hoopsfan, I'm pretty sure they are starting to figure it out. I will be at the game tonight against JWU with Falcons2010 (Formerly PJUNITO) so we should have a better idea after the game.
Can you guys find out why we no longer have video feeds for home games? I tweeted at the AMC Athletics account during the game Tuesday but got nothing back.
LilDave, just talked with someone and it sounds like an IT issue at the college. They are trying to fix it.
Hey Guys, been very busy so haven't had a chance to post lately. But I was at the Purchase game as well as the Anna Maria game and I will say that this team is beginning to gel more and more. The Purchase game certainly was close but I never felt threated in the game and they were just a hungry team trying to avenge the multiple losses from last season. Their star from last season Dixon was also on the bench as well providing a lot of positive energy so it was a very emotional game for them and they stepped up as best they could.
It was certainly rough going to start in terms of TO's and lack of team cohesion but Eian and Sledge are beginning to learn how to play together more and more. This team will be ready to go come tourney time. I am a huge supporter and got a little carried away myself in the beginning with regards to expectations. I forgot to keep in mind that teams with new pieces (especially a piece like Sledge) take time to come together and learn how to play with each other. Perfect analogy would be the Miami Heat in King James first season.....if I recall they lost 8 of their first 10 games. I trust completely in Coach Oliver's system and YES the TO's need to stop and team defense absolutely must improve but I know they will be ready. This team is too talented and to passionate about this game not to.
Hoops Fan, great pickup their on the teams effort in getting Big Vic the ball. I think your 100% correct. He is getting more involved and seems to be helping out the guard play a ton. He is simply too good down low for the majority of D3 low post defenders to guard. At a legit 6'8 with the angles and moves that he is able to score from not to mention his ability to knock down shots from the outside I think he just might be the toughest low post matchup in D3 this season. Very underrated as a passer when the double team comes as well......he is typically able to pick up either Eian or Sledge cutting to the hoop which 99% of the time results in a basket or trip to the charity stripe.
Saint- Great updates as usual, hopefully the Saints can figure things out for the players and programs sake.
Tonight's contest with JWU should be a fun one!!!
Also, I just glanced over the Mount Ida vs JWU box score. Anyone know why Quarry Greenway didn't play? Is he hurt? Maybe a team violation? I for one hope he plays tonight. He is without doubt their best player and it would be a much more beneficial game if we play them at full strength in my opinion.
Good news!! Theres a video link posted on the Albertus Magnus schedule for tonights contest for all who cant make it! Looks like they fixed their IT Problem!!!
Anyone else trying the broadcast and getting an error? Both mobile and on my desktop.
Finally working...albertus knows we're in the 21st century right? Looks like I'm watching my old home videos lol
Oh my god, did that just happen? Please tell me there's decent video of the posterization, the dopey foul, and then the long court pass that never works lol
LilDave, you absolutely saw correctly. I was at the game tonight and I must say that Sledge dunk was hands-down the most amazing dunk I've seen ever! Someone please tell me there's video of this because it would no doubt be a top SportsCenter Top 10 play. Not mention the play Coach Oliver drew up to end the game. Wow what an amazing play and better shot by Kyle Wiggins who came off the bench cold after not playing a single second in the entire half.
I'm not even going to get into some of the things I thought the team could've done better. I think they just need to enjoy this one because they earned it. This JWU team knows the Falcons better then any other team in tge GNAC. This was a huge victory. Also marks 44 in a row at home to i beleive which is the longest streak in the nation for any division
Tavon Sledge is a human highlight reel. That dunk was the best in game dunk I've seen live at any level. The kid is 5'8!!!
Also, how about the block on the JWU dunk attempt when it seemed he could have touched the top the backboard and what looked to be a fast break dunk for JWU when he came out of nowhere for a steal.
Hoops Fan, Albertus was trying to get the ball down low to Vic all night and it worked for the most part. But JWU did double team him a lot.
Anyone have any information on why Shaq Mitchell hasn't played for Albertus?
I'm curious as well...heard whispers about him not even being on the team/in school and then low and behold he's on the opening day roster but not playing. Perhaps he's not eligible until the second semester? Could you technically be on the roster now then though?
Shaq suited up last night but never entered the game. Wondering if he is injured.
Message for Pat or Dave.. Please ask someone at Albertus for video from the Johnson and Wales game on December 4, 2014. A buzzer beating 3 pointer to win the game and maybe the most Athletic Dunk, I have seen in person at the 2:45 minute mark in the second half.
Falcons2010, Tavon Sledge's dunk came with under a minute left.
Quote from: falcons2010 on December 05, 2014, 10:50:59 AM
Message for Pat or Dave.. Please ask someone at Albertus for video from the Johnson and Wales game on December 4, 2014. A buzzer beating 3 pointer to win the game and maybe the most Athletic Dunk, I have seen in person at the 26 second mark in the second half.
After watching St Joe lose by 20 points to S Maine on Sunday I thought for a brief moment that the Saints might really have a chance to beat the Monks on Thursday night. My Bad ! St Joe starts one forward and four guards, has no post presence, does not control rebounds, no exceptional foot speed or athletic ability, and yet they controlled this game from start to finish. The difference in this game was clearly the coaching. St Joe was disciplined, patient, and unselfish, moved the ball until they found and open man and then finished the play by making open shots. St Joe jumped on the Saints 10 - 0 to start the game and never looked back leaving Boston with a sweet 73 - 69 victory over the Saints. St Joe scored the first five times they touched the ball, shot 60% for the game, 53% behind the 3 point line, had 20 assists on 27 FGs and held the Saints to 23 points in the first half. The Saints had the advantage with two big post players who controlled the paint, quick, athletic guards, who were able to get down court in transition, and lost another winnable game at home in front of their fans. I really enjoy watching basketball the way St Joe plays the game. They are fun to watch.
Different Subject : I saw the AMC / JWU box score. wow, must have been an exciting game. I know that JWU starts a forward and four guards, so it must have been a very fast paced game with a lot of transition baskets. No shot clock violations in that game ! Also saw that Suffolk and Lasell post big conference wins. GNAC games are just starting to heat up.
Hey guys,
Where do I begin? What a great game last night! The best two teams in the GNAC went blow for blow all night. It was a great test for both teams; I think they are far and away better than any other GNAC team this year.
It was a shame that Greenway got into foul trouble, only played 8 minutes in the second half. Greenway is one of the best players in the region. He is very skilled offensively and plays excellent defense. Some of the fouls were questionable. He also added about 15 pounds of muscle, which should make him a more complete player; finishing around the basket. JWU has some new faces, and they were impressive. JWU is long and quick, and can rebound. They played excellent help defense and took care of the ball. I was so impressed by their composure. When Sledge dunked it and then hit the free throw, Albertus was up 4 and the crowd was going crazy!!! There was less than a minute left. JWU, came down and knocked a 3 down. This JWU team is tough. Robert Lewis can play for me any day of the week. I can't wait to see the rematch later this winter.
As for Albertus, They got the ball deep to Vic and Larsen all game long. However, JWU had a great defensive game plan and forced a lot of TOs. Larsen had an off game, but made a great pass late in the game to cutting Davis. There were moments where I thought, Albertus would run away with the game, but then they had sloppy offensive possessions and played horrible defense. There were three consecutive possessions where 4 falcons were running down court before a rebound was secured. Leaving Vic at a 1 on 3 disadvantage. But give a lot of credit to Julian Sanders and Kyle Wiggins. They came off the bench in the first half and played solid defense and hit big shots.
There was also a short bench tonight for Oliver. I expect to see a short rotation against the better teams in the region. There is no replacement for Vic, who had a highlight reel dunk as well. If he stays on the court, Albertus is a different team. Only 13 TOs last night and they played solid offense for 28 minutes. If they can continue to improve, they will be really hard to beat in March.
Finally, I looked at the box score. The scorer's table made a crucial mistake! They gave JWU two points. The score was 51-45 after Vic made a lay-up. Albertus gave up back to back easy lay ups. Oliver was so mad at Marcus Walker that he called a time-out. Two lay-ups equal 4 points. The score should have been 51-49 Albertus with 18:15 on the clock. It read 51-51. Walker came out of the game and Larsen in the game. After the time-out, Albertus ran an offensive set and Davis hit a jumper with his foot on the line. I know his foot was on the line, because the JWU fan behind me screamed to the official "His foot is on the line"! That put Albertus up 53-51; but it should have been 53-49. Here is a link to the play by play. 2nd half 18:15. Answer me these two questions: 1. how can a substitution be made without a dead ball? 2. I know Eian Davis is fast, but how did he hit jump shot in 3 seconds after a Lawson lay-up? He could maybe make a lay-up, but no way Davis is streaking down court in 3 seconds and pulling up for a jumper.
http://www.albertusfalcons.com/sports/mbkb/2014-15/boxscores/20141204_bj3b.xml?view=plays - link to play by play
Yeah I only caught the end (thank God) and a couple of minutes early-to-mid 2nd half. I had to turn my attention to something else when it was 64-61 JWU without about 12 minutes left in the half I think...but the possessions before that it seemed like AMC was racing up the floor and jacking up the first 3, or the guy who brought the ball up court went to the hole with reckless abandon for a contested layup. Obviously Albertus doesn't have the score on the screen so when there was a TO and I saw 64-61 JWU I was dumbfounded...I know we want to play quick but sheesh, slow it down, have a good offensive possession or 2 and take control back. Run when it's there, not run ALL THE TIME especially with a team that probably will do as good a job as any keeping up with the pace.
Just got word there is a great video out there with the dunk and game winner all together. Someone supposedly caught it all perfectly on there phone. Hopefully I can track where it came from down. It's got to go on YouTube!!
We gotta find that video!
The dunk, hope it works - http://instagram.com/p/wO5SI5AwBn/ (http://instagram.com/p/wO5SI5AwBn/)
Do you need an instragram account to watch it? I am an old man.
Quote from: falcons2010 on December 05, 2014, 02:12:24 PM
Do you need an instragram account to watch it? I am an old man.
Just click the link and hit play on the video.
I did Hoops.. nothing happens. I don't have an instram account, however.
Nevermind, I just saw it. WOW!
That's a really good video. But I heard theres another one that has the game-winner and dunk both on one vid with music and everything? We gotta find it
Albertus Twitter just posted what is supposed to be the buzzer beater, but it keeps giving me an error.
Watched Albertus at Suffolk online yesterday. A few thoughts...
Sledge did not start, Wiggins did. Any idea why?
Sledge scored whenever he wanted to once he got in, Big Vic had trouble though. Suffolk's post scored on him almost at will.
There was a "brawl" with about 7 to go. Not sure who from AMC got T'd, but Suffolk's coach and a player were ejected. Pretty messy. Also, a lot of AMC guys on the court, not sure about the rules about leaving the bench.
Biggest difference in the game - AMC went to the line 46 times (and made 36). Suffolk only got there 26 times (making 22).
Suffolk is much improved - probably a top 4 team in the GNAC, so all in all a good win for Albertus on the road.
Finally have something positive to say about the Saints. They are not the worst team in the GNAC. The Saints beat Mt Ida yesterday by 4 points. Not exactly a statement game but it was good enough to keep them out of last place in the GNAC. Mt Ida did not have a post presence and the Saints were able to take advantage of that all game long for a 68 - 64 win. Have not seen Norwich yet this year and don't know if they are improved over last year. If the Saints can beat Norwich, Rivier, and Mt Ida again in the second semester they will have a shot at 6 th place in the conference.
I can't link to it directly but if you really want to see the video of the dunk and the game winner, Kyle posted it on his facebook page. If it's not private I'd imagine you can view it. I was able to see it because a mutual friend shared it...
Another video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTifVH7IfD4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTifVH7IfD4) Some good highlights of their win over Anna Maria earlier this year. Not many teams run an alley-oop inbounds play for a 5'8 guard!
Watched the video reply of the AMC / Suffolk game. Very entertaining game, both teams played really hard. AMC did not take Suffolk lightly, they played hard to earn their win. Suffolk did not play like a 20 point underdog, they were aggressive, attacking the rim, playing tough defense, did not beat themselves, forced AMC to play well in order to win the game. A lot of good hustle plays that you would expect to see in a D-3 game.
The difference in the game was the AMC foot speed. Both, in transition where AMC got a lot of run out lay ups, and also in the half court sets where AMC used a quick first step to draw fouls on the Suffolk defenders. Noticed that AMC ran a different set play to score a basket out of every time out. Very nice game plan. Just like JWU and Rivier, Suffolk also runs a flex offense but they disguise it very well as a high post screen. That high post screener roles to the basket, not to score but to set a baseline flex screen on the block. The opposite big man lifts out to the arc to receive the skip pass and then they are into the flex offense. That is a very unique way of starting the flex that I have not seen before. I was waiting for Victor to hedge the first high post screen and not allow the Suffolk defender to turn the corner but he played behind the screener all game. I thought that allowed the Suffolk guard to penetrate and draw some of the AMC help defenders out of position allowing the Suffolk big man to get open paths to the basket. It will be interesting to see the adjustments both teams make the next time they play. Good luck to both teams.
Saints lose by 21 to MIT on Tuesday night in a very boring, lackluster game. With 13 minutes left in the first half the score was 2 - 2 . Emmanuel scored a grand total of 21 points in each half for a final score of 42 - 63 . At one point the Saints missed 8 consecutive shots and went scoreless for seven minutes in the second half when the game was still close. No players in the starting lineup scored in double figures for the game. Must be time to change the starting lineup again coach! Every time the Saints play a decent team with an above 0.500 record they look confused, listless, and out of sync. They are just not a competitive team against any one with a plus 0.500 record. Saints fall to 3 - 6 for the first semester. Starting to wonder if this new group of players have already given up on this season. With all the lineup changes and outdated game plans it wouldn't be the first time.
Being tied with the #16 ranked team in the country on the road 7 minutes in is pretty good...too bad it was 2-2!
The Emmanuel loss to MIT on Tuesday night had special significance. That was the Saints 99 th loss since November of 2009. A quick 99 losses in only 5 and 1/2 seasons. The countdown to L-100 begins on January 6 when the second semester begins. Have any other GNAC coaches lost 100 games in less than 6 seasons? I will leave that bit of research to fans of the other GNAC teams. Meanwhile, the Saints AD continues to look on impassively. Or, maybe the AD just doesn't watch the games at all.
Anyone have any info on the New Jersey City win? Score was closer than the records indicate but hey, that's why you play the game. Perhaps the Falcons were looking ahead to the in-state show down with undefeated Western Connecticut coming up tomorrow.
Noticed Shaq Mitchell finally got in, albeit for 2 minutes. And Eian looks to finally be figuring it out with Sledge - He had 23 points, 9 assists, and 8 boards with only 3 TOs. Sledge also had 20. Big Vic was Big Vic with 16 points, 13 boards, and 8 (!) blocks.
This game is gonna be fun tonight! Good luck to the Falcons!
Hope it's like the Askew/Brooks battles of a few years ago!
Catching the last 6 minutes of the first half - is Vic hurt or in foul trouble? I haven't seen him on the floor yet.
Foul trouble. As usual in CT, these officials have no business doin a game this big.
Foul trouble, every starter on both teams have 2 fouls.
7, are you at the game? I am sittkng front row on west conn side with grey hoodie.
Yah. I was in Albertus side with a Nats red sweatshirt prolly gonna watch second half from the balcony.
That was an excellent game. Really should be an annual game fans were really into it, players as well. I'd love to see Albertus/Western again this year. Can we replace useless Conn College with Albertus in mid January, lol. Sat with Dave the first half and ran into Falcons at halftime nice to meet people from the boards at the game, and good luck to the Falcons rest of this year, hope to see them again in the NCAA's........with different officials that actually let the teams play though!
I'll post this on both boards as I'll have some commentary about squads...
In General:
Very entertaining game. Had the pleasure of watching the first half with 7 before finishing the game with a former soccer teammate. While the refs absolutely did over-call (is that a word?) the game I'm not sure they had much of a choice. Unless you had the cream of the crop as far as New England officials where they get most everything right, in a game with so much pace and energy they had to keep it under control. Was every call correct? Far from it, but they consistently had their mark on the game. If they really LET them play like we would have liked, who knows what might have happened in terms of emotions. I'll start with my Falcons...
Albertus:
Tale of two halves comes down to Big Vic being in the game the whole 2nd half. While Western missed some shots in the 2nd half, him protecting the rim altered more shots than anyone in the gym can count. Only giving up 35 in the 2nd half was awesome to see and I hope they have more defensive halves/games like that.
On the stat sheet Vic dominated with another 30 point 15 board performance (31 points to be exact). Had 8 more blocks as well. As long as he's on the court, Albertus is as good as anyone. Sledge had 25 and controlled most of the game. Looked like he was battling cramps or shin splints but gutted it out and was the go to guy down the stretch. This was my first time seeing him live and it was like de ja vu from when I first saw Eian. Not sure who wins in a race between the two but from one end to the other Sledge consistently was a one man press breaker, going base line to base line like no one was there. The rest of the cast was there usual supportive selves - Lemar with another double double, Jennings added 16 with only 2 trey's and we won by 18 without much from Eian. He only played 15 minutes in the game due to foul trouble and sitting for an extended period of time after he was apart of a double tech.
On the surface I'm surprised Mitch played so many guys in the first half as it seemed like he was starting to shorten his bench as the season grew on but I guess he didn't have much choice with all the fouls. What was a huge surprise, and I think other Falcon fans will agree, was the play of Freshman big Marshall James. He came in once Vic got his 2nd and contributed 8 points and looked like he belonged. Had a nice touch around the rim with 2 reverse layups and knocked down two baseline jumpers. I like that he had the confidence to take and make the shots. If he can keep getting some meaningful minutes he can easily be the safety net for some Big Vic foul trouble.
It's taken me until game 9 to realize Tieron Jackson isn't on the team. Reason I noticed this was it was literally Tavon or Eian bringing the ball up. While that's fine as normally at least 1 is in the game, if there's ever a combination of bad events (an injury and foul trouble, both foul trouble, etc) I'm not sure who comes off the bench to handle the ball. I imagine Julian could do so, but obviously he's not a true point.
Western:
Athletic team that kept pace until the very end. As 7 said in his preview, there's no one on the team as talented as Daquan Brooks but there's more to the pie as a whole. While I think in the long run that that's a good thing, I personally think it hurt them in this game. I'd actually like 7's opinion on this, or any other viewer of the game...Midway through the 2nd half when the lead got stretched out to 12-15 it seemed like Western didn't have a go to guy to get a bucket and stop the bleeding. They got some shots to fall here and there to keep the score in that range but to me it seemed like it was every player just taking turns shooting a contested jumper or going into the lane to get stuffed by Vic. There wasn't one player they could clear out, or run a play for and let him get a bucket.
Not much interior presence either. Think 7 said the tallest was 6'5 or 6'6. They held their own in terms of 2nd chance points and generally getting into the paint with penetration but no one could guard Vic, and no offense goes through the post. Against bigger teams and against good perimeter defending teams (which we are not) they will struggle. However, not many bigs are as talent as Vic either.
All in all it was good to see Western competitive again. Good to see these 2 in state teams playing against each other again. Albertus won't see much of a test from here on out besides the rematch(es) with JWU so hopefully they can take a lot from this game. As I have a bunch of friends who are West Conn alum I always root for them when they don't play Albertus. I hope they can take the Little East!
Did any of you guys happen to notice tonight that one of the subs for Western, # 23, was the starting forward for Emmanuel last year? He started and played in the first 7 games for the Saints last year and was the team leader in points and rebounds for the first semester. He left the team during the semester break and transferred to Western this year. Even though he only had one year of eligibility left he did not want to play one more minute for the Emmanuel coach. I found that to be a telling statement. Looked like a real exciting game tonight. Two very athletic teams going up and down the court. No shot clock violations in this game.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on December 15, 2014, 10:48:08 PM
Did any of you guys happen to notice tonight that one of the subs for Western, # 23, was the starting forward for Emmanuel last year? He started and played in the first 7 games for the Saints last year and was the team leader in points and rebounds for the first semester. He left the team during the semester break and transferred to Western this year. Even though he only had one year of eligibility left he did not want to play one more minute for the Emmanuel coach. I found that to be a telling statement. Looked like a real exciting game tonight. Two very athletic teams going up and down the court. No shot clock violations in this game.
I had no idea St. Paul. Western doesn't list previous schools so unless I know where someone came from (like I knew Mike Kennedy came from WNEC) I just figured they wanted to play in their senior year.
And I don't think each team ran it down to 10 seconds on the shot clock all game.
My 2 sentence recap even though Dave did a much better job on his:
Albertus hands Western their first loss 110-92.
Victor Ljuldjuraj had a game high 31 points and a game high 15 rebounds to lead the Falcons who also got 25 points from Tavon Sledge and 12 points & 12 rebounds from Lemar Larsen. Colonials were lead by Bobby Bynum and Jerry Washington who each had 16. A Bobby Bynum 3 pointer with 16:42 to play gave Western a 69-66 lead; they wouldn't hit another field goal until Luis Briddter jump shot at 8:12 which made the score 87-72 Albertus. As said previous, the game was close up until that point was 10 points in the first half which Western overcame relatively quickly, but that 21-1 run in 8:30 minutes for Albertus really took the wind out of the Colonials sails. They still fought valiantly, and got it to 10 with 4 minutes to play, but against a team as talented as the Falcons are, you can't get down by 17 late in the second and expect to come back and win, no matter how bad the Falcons defense maybe. Both teams are off until 2015, Western is @ punching bag WNEU on January 3, Albertus takes on GNAC punching bag Rivier on January 6. The Raiders lost by 49 to probably the worst team in the LEC (Plymouth) and by 13 to USCAA opponent Maine-Augusta, I shudder to think what the Falcons will do to them. :-X
Nice recap Dave and 7, I couldn't agree more with both your takes on the game. A great high speed contest between 2 extremely athletic teams who can score the ball in a heartbeat.
The interior size of Albertus really hurt West Conn. Big Vic looked like a man amongst boys down there and his stat line is all the proof you need. Also Tavon Sledge's motor and ability to bring the ball up the court and break the press that the Colonials applied. Eian was in foul trouble and Sledge had no problem whatsoever of getting the ball up the court. It really is amazing to watch how fast he can accelerate with the ball in his hand and still remain so under control. I really have no doubt at this point that duo of Sledge and Davis is the fastest and most athletic backcourt in the country not to mention throwing James Jennings in the mix as well. Both are in the top 10 in assist per game and thats really saying something.
The Falcons are slowly beginning to trust each other more and more and are really understanding and learning how to play together. They played better defense the other night against West Conn and I really believe in Coach Oliver and his system and his ability to get these guys ready to play. I think that come GNAC tourney time this team will be clicking on all cylinders......and its scary to think that they really haven't fully clicked yet and are still averaging over 95 points a game.
Thought my fellow Falcon fans had left the building, it had been a while haha I imagine it'll be even more quiet until we pick back up in January!
Just some tidbits tweeted out by the Falcons Twitter page today...
Nationally Vic is 1st in total blocks with 44, 2nd in BPG with 4.89, 5th in total rebounds with 108 and Eian is 3rd in total assists with 60.
The Falcons as a team are 1st in BPG with 7.9, 2nd in APG with 19.3, and 2nd in PPG with 97.3. They're only behind Grinnell so they might as well be 1st :P
I'm still here Lildave!!! Just been very busy lately. Those are some extremely impressive stats tweeted out by Albertus Athletics!!
Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas!
On Christmas Eve the Falcons were featured on WTNH SportzEdge. I just happened to catch it on TV. It was about a 7 minute interview with Coach Oliver and senior players Julian Sanders and Lemar Larson. It was really well done by SportzEdge anchor John Pierson. I personally have really enjoyed WTNH coverage of the Falcons over the last few years. The papers like the New Haven Register and CT Post have been awful so having WTNH take control and give the Falcons some coverage is really nice.
Its not posted sportzedge.com yet but I am sure it will be soon. If I catch it I will post the link.
Happy New Year to everyone as well!!
Here's that interview!
http://sportzedge.com/2014/12/26/albertus-magnus-basketball-talks-successful-start-to-season/ (http://sportzedge.com/2014/12/26/albertus-magnus-basketball-talks-successful-start-to-season/)
Saw most of the GNAC teams play during the first semester. My summary is below.
AMC 8 - 1 solid, well balanced team. Two very quick guards, to go along with athletic, rebounding, defensive wings, and a dominate center who out plays his match up at both ends of the floor. Strong transition game that leads to easy baskets and builds leads. Should not get upset in the GNAC playoffs but if that happens will get an at large bid. One area for improvement is shot selection. With such a dominate center this should be an inside out team, looking for a post touch before launching a three, especially in transition.
JWU 7 - 3 very quick, athletic team, but unbalanced, starting four guards and one forward. The guards can score, defend, and rebound, and will outplay most of the forwards in the GNAC. This team should only have trouble playing against a dominate center. Has the potential to pull off an upset in the GNAC playoffs but that is not likely to happen. Probably deserves an at large bid but because of the weakness of the GNAC conference will not get one. ECAC bound.
Suffolk 5 - 4 another solid, well balanced team but not at the level of AMC. Two good big men who have nice touch around the basket, can put the ball on the floor and get to the rim. Three nice guards who can pass and shoot, but again, not at the level of AMC or JWU. Good team chemistry, this starting five plays well together and should beat most of the other GNAC teams. Dangerous team to meet in the playoffs.
St Joe 3 - 3 another unbalanced team starting four guards and one forward. The forward has a nice game, soft touch around the basket, nice court vision, can score, but cannot control the rebounds in the paint. The guards have a very nice game but again, not at the level of AMC or JWU. The four guards really pass the ball, knock down shots, play solid defense but are not athletic enough to have a high powered transition game. Great team chemistry with this group. really move the ball and look for open teammates. GNAC playoff upset is unlikely, but when you have a team that can knock down shots like this group you never count them out. Dangerous team in the playoffs.
Lasell 2 - 6 quick, athletic team, but like JWU unbalanced, starting four guards and one forward. This group competes and plays hard, but cannot control rebounds in the paint at either end of the floor. Starting four guards need to shoot better from the perimeter to make this unbalanced lineup work better. Should play better in the second semester since most of the GNAC opponents will not have dominate centers. Good candidate for the third or fourth playoff spot.
Emmanuel 3 - 6 balanced lineup with two big post players who can score and three athletic guards with decent foot speed. The problem on this team is chemistry and shot selection. Should have a better record than 3 wins. Shot selection is a major problem with this group. The guards shoot when post players are open, and the post players force shots under double coverage when perimeter players are open. Need to reduce the turnovers to make a run at the third or fourth playoff spot. Due to the weakness of the other GNAC teams this would be the year to do it. This team beats itself more often than they get beat by their opponents.
Anna Maria 2 - 5 not sure why this team only has two wins. They start two fairly athletic forwards who can score and pass along with three guards who can make shots. Since they are not a big, strong team they play a smart 3 - 2 zone on defense and run for opportunity baskets once in a while. Better team that their record indicates, but no GNAC upsets in their future. Possible candidate for the third or fourth playoff spot.
Rivier 2 - 6 small team with no post presence and also small guards. This team has to shoot a very high percentage from the perimeter just to stay in games. unlikely candidate for the third or fourth playoff spot.
Norwich 3 - 4 did not see this team play yet this year. don't know about their size on the post or their foot speed. will wait and see
Mt Ida 1 - 7 no post presence on this team. Guards are just OK, but need to out rebound other teams forwards to stay in games and that rarely happens. unlikely candidate for third or fourth playoff spot.
While I would never wish an L upon my Falcons, assuming we'd still get an at large I'd like to see JWU get a shot in the first round of the NCAAs. They won a game the last time they were there (granted they had Lamont Thomas) but athletically I think they could match up with a number of teams. If they got matched up with a slow down, smaller ish team I think they'd have a good chance...
Or just have AMC run through the GNAC per usual lol
Saint-Paul:
Great first half re-cap, thanks! I have seen most of the teams play at some point, and I really think Emmanuel may be the scariest. You mentioned chemistry issues. If they solve those, I think they may have the most talent in the 3-8 slots. The big posts are scary if they get going, and they have some guards that can score. This could be there year to make some noise.
Finally the Falcons return to action tonight as they head up to Nashua NH to take on Rivier. I don't see much of a contest here but any road conference game can get challenging at times not to mention the long layoff.
It will be interesting to see if the team was able to remain intact whether it be grades or transfers and also even more exciting to see if they added anyone over break. With Oliver's ability to recruit and his vast number of contacts it wouldn't surprise me at all!!
Looking forward to the 2nd Half of the season. I think this Falcon team is going to continue to get better and better!!
Yeah I was looking forward to seeing the box score tonight. I'll try to catch some of the video.
St. Paul awesome job of recapping the first semester. I think Emmanuel may be a sleeper, if the team can find some chemistry.
Looks like Wiggins is off the roster, not sure if this is a typo. If he isn't on the team anymore, it creates an issue. Wiggins was a very good consistent deep threat. He had the ability to stretch defenses away from the paint, giving Vic and Larsen one on one match ups. He also was able to score in bunches, helping Albertus at times increase their leads before the half and early in second. If he isn't around, who takes his place? Julian is a good three point shooter, but Wiggins is a better shooter. Davis and Sledge are more basket attackers than shooters.
At the end of last year, we talked about a few things that Albertus needed to do to get back to sweet 16 and beyond. They needed another big man who can spell Vic and contribute in case he gets into foul trouble, they needed to somehow replace Watson's offense, and they needed to add another shooter (like Wiggins) who can keep defensives honest. Let's face it, Wiggins disappeared last year in the tournament. His minutes went down this year but he seemed to understand his role. He avg 7 points in only 11 mins shooting 51% from 3s. That is what this team needed in the post season. I think Coach Oliver did a great job of getting depth with James and Walters, although they are freshmen, they seem to have poise and contribute in various ways, Sledge has replaced Watson, and with Saunders and Wiggins shooting the three ball well; it look like this team was poise to make a good run in March. Now, I am not sure... Let's see how this team gels this month, hopefully Shaq Mitchell can get on the court (he avg over 20 pts in JUCO last year).
Go Falcons!
Don't ask me why guys but I decided to drive up to Rivier last night for the game. I was too anxious to wait till Saturday's home game and I'm certainly not going to be making the trip on Thursday up to Vermont.
With that said this was the most complete game I have seen the Falcons play all season. They played with energy a ton of smiles on the court and looked very refreshed. Sledge had a MONSTER of a game. I counted 6 dunks and they were all incredible. He was knocking down 3's and running and gunning in transition. Eian had a superb game dishing out a bunch of really nice assists and playing for the most part in control. Big Vic was stuck in some foul trouble and never really got going but still had a number of blocks and finished the game strong. I couldn't help but to start thinking about Sledge's game more on the ride home. He is the type of player that can single handedly put the team on his back and take over a game when in need and I think this young man will be a crucial factor in this postseason for the Falcons. Not just because I'm a Connecticut guy but he draws comparisons to me of last year's UConn team with Shabazz Napier. He can do the same things in terms of taking a big shot or knowing exactly when to push the tempo and go for the juggler or set up your offense and mentally break down a team. He is truly an outstanding player who is so in control of his game and lives for the big moment.
PJ, as for Wiggins it appears he won't be with the team for the rest of the season. He was on the bench last night but because they took him off the roster I'm assuming his grades just weren't there possibly? It's unfortunate, I really loved his game and for a senior to have to miss out on your final semester stinks. I don't want to speculate but Kyle seemed like a really nice kid and I am certain it's eating him up inside. As for his absence, does it hurt? It certainly does but in a way he was 1 dimensional. He was strictly a 3 point specialist which I'm not downplaying because it's huge but we still have senior Julian Sanders who is just as good a shooter in my opinion as Wiggins and can do way more off the dribble as well. Wiggins brought a ton of energy to the court when he was in but defensively again in my opinion he was a liability. He will be missed but we have plenty of experienced talent to help fill the void not to mention a number of pretty good looking outside freshman shooters in Chaunce Dunbar and Lex Perez. Ohhh lets not forget about our starting SG as well in James Jennings......kids pretty good LOL and plays the best defense out of the group of shooter I just mentioned.
This team is starting to click more and more and everyone in NE should take note. Their team defense was outstanding last night as well and I think as we all know if this team buckles down on D they are as good as any team in the country.
I don't like giving up 42 in a half to the Riv BUT they had the lead to almost 30, in the second half, in cold NH...hopefully they just wanted to get home lol. I'll take your word for it that the defense was outstanding.
While they had video feed it was of poor quality so I didn't watch as much as I wanted. Vic did get in some foul trouble? I saw he had 4 fouls in the box score and saw his poor numbers (for his standards) and assumed that was why. Nice to get some clarification.
D3 who filled the immediate minutes void from Wiggins not playing? Looks like Marc, Jahqwan, and Shaq all got turns. Who was first? Who looked the best? Hopefully one of them can jump in front out of that group.
Saints surprise Suffolk with a 84 - 75 win. It was a surprise because it was not the Saints big post players who dominated the game it was the Saints guards. The Saints big man were actually outplayed by the Suffolk posts but the starting guards combined for 39 points which is very unusual for this years team. Making 9 three's is not the usual game plan, it must have really caught Suffolk by surprise. Once again the Saints used a new starting line up, their ninth in ten games. Maybe this is the one ? Emmanuel sent Suffolk to the free throw line 33 times and Suffolk missed 12 of those attempts to lose by 9 points. The basketball term for that is called beating yourself. Should be an interesting second semester.
LilDave, the 42 points might seem a bit alarming on paper but Oliver was rotating a number of players off the bench in and out last night. If he wanted to this game could have been even uglier. They sorta took their foot off the gas a bit with 11 minutes to go. When the guys we want in the game were in they really buckled down and applied the best pressure and close outs I have seen them make all season.
As for replacing Wiggins all the players you mentioned got minutes but to me it was pretty clear that Oliver will go to Julian Sanders which to me makes most sense. He was first off the bench and I am going to assume this will continue. Marc Wilson will benefit from some more time and Jahqwan Walters is no doubt a future stud but he is still a bit raw and his decision making is poor. He looks a bit lost at times out there which again is understandable for a true freshman. As for Shaq Mitchell to me in the short time that I have seen him play he looks just OK to me. He definitely is not a shooter and relies heavily on cutting to the hoop or pulling up in traffic. That was more evident to me last night than ever. He too looked a bit lost which again is understandable because he is a newcomer and we all know Oliver runs more sets than probably any Coach in NE and he demands you know your place on the court.
So to recap it was evident to me that Sanders will be the guy here (He too needs to play better defense tho)
A name to remember is Chaunce Dunbar.....I just have a gut feeling about this freshman. I bit of an unorthodox shot but he can without doubt knock down the 3.....I think we are going to be hearing his name more and more. And yes I will reference this post in the future and gloat if my gut instinct is correct LOL. Also again please please please remember our starting SG James Jennings can light it up with the best of them and he got hot last night for a stretch and is a very good defender in his own right.
Oh yeah I absolutely didn't forget about Julian. Just seemed like when both were available, Mitch worked it so they both got their time. Obviously Sanders sees an uptick in minutes but was talking about the next body.
Gotcha LilDave, right now after Julian my pick would have to be a combination of the guys mention. I dont see a real clear cut player of that group.
Quote from: lildave678 on January 07, 2015, 12:16:34 PM
Oh yeah I absolutely didn't forget about Julian. Just seemed like when both were available, Mitch worked it so they both got their time. Obviously Sanders sees an uptick in minutes but was talking about the next body.
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I always wondered how that worked Pat. Gotta earn your stripes first I guess before your allowed that privledge :) .......I guess I am one step closer with this post!!
WOOOOO! Yeah I always wondered how to +/- someone. Always saw "+1 for so and so!" and couldn't figure out how to do it. Now I know!
Edit: Aw yeah I'm a starter now too ;D
Since school's not in session are the Falcons staying up north and going straight up to Norwich from Rivier?? Seems pointless to travel from New Haven to Nashua, NH for 1 game, get back to New Haven at like 1 AM Wednesday morning, only to travel again up to central Vermont at noon on Thursday and get back to New Haven by 2 AM Friday morning.
7Express, The Falcons had to come all the way home. I've said it a few times on here in the past.....the Falcons support from the athletic department and school is absolutely atrocious. Im certain they wouldnt even consider allowing them to stay overnight. The stories I have heard over the years just irritates the heck out of me. I know those of us really connected to the Falcons understand what I'm talking about here.
One example. I remember when they first started the Oliver era they were taking passenger vans to games. As in games to Norwich and St Joes of Maine. Ill leave it at that
Are classes not in session? If classes were in session there's no way they would stay overnight.
No. Albertus is still on break, that's why I asked the question whether they would stay up there.
As a former member of the soccer team, D3 is absolutely right when it comes to overnights and Albertus. It was never an option, even for the long trips to St. Joes and Norwich. And like basketball our schedule was set where we'd go to both in one year. Really doesn't make sense that they won't do it. You'd figure with the success of the basketball program they could at least do it for them.
EDIT: I noticed the basketball team isn't going to both Norwich and St. Joes but Rivier is close enough. I AM 100% positive the soccer team went to both in the same years.
LilDave,
As a former athlete and student maybe you can verify this for me. I've brought it up in the past......why doesn't Albertus charge an entry fee for their home games. Most schools do this and I am sure the majority (maybe not all) of the profit goes to the team's personal budget which in return can help them pay for these types of overnight trips. I heard it was brought up but the school itself would not allow it because they were worried people wouldn't come?? Are you kidding me???!!!
A simply solution.......call it a donation and make it 1 dollar if you want to. I am sure most of the Falcon faithful would be more than willing to donate a single dollar if they knew it would help the program out. Think about it, one game would produce at minimum I would say 400 dollars. This team averages around 700 attendees a game. I just don't understand the logic. Take a leap and if it doesn't work then don't do it but you have to at least try.
D3 - I just gave you +1 for taking that drive the other night. LilDave - +1 for joining the karma club!
D3 I'm unsure. Obviously basketball gets the most viewership of any sport. Soccer would really only have a decent crowd during Fall Fest or the GNAC tournament, baseball and softball don't even play home games at the school, all the other sports aren't very good...
Perhaps they're still living in the past where the team wasn't very good and no one came. Once the team became good (later in my tenure), it was actually the students that filled up the stands (and were much more rowdy). Obviously students could/should get in free but perhaps they just didn't want to alienate anyone? I honestly don't know what the reasoning would be. Abromatis is the 3rd AD since I've been associated with the school, you'd figure someone with a D1 background would give it a shot. It absolutely couldn't hurt to try it even once, have a donation table by the door and see what happens. I was told they're remodeling the raquet ball courts to add more in terms of a weight room, you'd figure an overnight a year would be doable. And Norwich/St. Joes/Rivier is the obviously situation to do it but much like Dave and others have offered, take an overnight to a tournament where we don't normally play. Get some exposure. Just all seems so easy that SOMETHING behind the scenes has to be in the way of it all.
LilDave, thanks for the response.......I guess we can only speculate. It's just frustrating the hell out of me!
WPI the +1 is appreciated.....the drive was worth it even though the Falcons blew them out. Watching Tavon Sledge play is worth the price of admission and a 2 hour and 45 minute ride! Do I garner such another point once I become a member of the Karma Club??...............Ohhh like right now ;)! My 200th post!! More importantly I become a "Starter" and don't have to ride the pine anymore!!!
Welcome off the bench D3 - unfortunately you can only +1 somebody once a day! All conference for Magnus the rest of the way now except for a poor Newbury game.
What will be their toughest test? At St Joe's? At Johnson and Wales?
Most schools let students in free, but let's say Albertus charges $5 for an adult ticket (I think the average is right around $4 or $5. I can get into some LEC schools [Keene, Plymouth & USM] for less but most of the others, that charge, charge $5). And of the 400 person capacity let's say 300 are non students (and I think I'm being generous with that number. Talking with Dave at the AMC game he was saying the students still don't support the team that well ???) You can make $1500 on 1 game alone, which will probably be good enough for 5 rooms at a super 8 or some cheap hotel. Even if they only charged $1, that's still $300 they could me making for 1 game.
Yeah I mean, I'm sure the shear NUMBER of students at the games are similar as to the Ray Askew days but the students are FAR less engaging. No defense chants, no you can't do thats, nothing. We used to count down the days until the next home game!
WPI, The Johnson and Wales game at Johnson and Wales will no doubt be the toughest contest the Falcons have left in the regular season. This has been an incredibly tough place for the Falcons to play at over the last few seasons. Certainly the St. Joe's game at St. Joe's is intriguing as well because they are very well coached and as a team shoot the three ball statistically as good as anyone which can always be a problem on the road. Another interesting game to watch will be at Lasell. I'm definitely not as worried about that game as the other two. But Lasell is another program that is really well coached and the Falcons have just had some troubles there over the years in the beginning of ball games.
Are they playing the Monks at home or up in Maine?? Up in Maine with those Maine homers as referees can be a tough place to win, especially if you are a ranked team, but get them outside the state borders and they are not nearly as good.
7, They still have yet to play the Monks so they will get them at home and on the road. Please dont get me going about the referees in the state of Maine! I could go on and on and I remember reading one of your post in the past on the Little East thread and it seems you don't like them to much either :D
Falcons are up 16 at the half to Norwich. I want to applaud the broadcast Norwich is doing right now for the game. The play by play analyst is outstanding and the video quality is great as well. Really professional!
Quote from: 7express on January 08, 2015, 02:21:06 PM
Most schools let students in free, but let's say Albertus charges $5 for an adult ticket (I think the average is right around $4 or $5. I can get into some LEC schools [Keene, Plymouth & USM] for less but most of the others, that charge, charge $5). And of the 400 person capacity let's say 300 are non students (and I think I'm being generous with that number. Talking with Dave at the AMC game he was saying the students still don't support the team that well ???) You can make $1500 on 1 game alone, which will probably be good enough for 5 rooms at a super 8 or some cheap hotel. Even if they only charged $1, that's still $300 they could me making for 1 game.
whether admission charge, donations or athletic budget used to fund an overnight trip, a school runs Title IX risks if one sport and/or gender receives preference over another.
iwumichigander.......you are the recipient of my first +K but I have to ask how exactly would that be able to be perceived as "preference" if it ever came down to it?? I can walk right down to a soccer field but you cant exactly do the same in a gym setting? And that's not the basketball teams problem??? No??? Just curious on your opinion only because I know a number of schools who charge for this and not for that or charge less for this and more for that etc.....
Falcons win in Norwich by the way 89-72
I cant wait to read Saints recap of the Lasell/Emmanuel game tonight. I caught the ending and it was just poor execution. Not to mention according to the scoreboard the Saints had 2 timeouts left and the Coach didn't use one when they were trapped multiple times down 3 with secs to go. I'm certain Saint will describe it in full detail (as he usually does) and everyone will have a better understanding
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 08, 2015, 08:42:24 PM
iwumichigander.......you are the recipient of my first +K but I have to ask how exactly would that be able to be perceived as "preference" if it ever came down to it?? I can walk right down to a soccer field but you cant exactly do the same in a gym setting? And that's not the basketball teams problem??? No??? Just curious on your opinion only because I know a number of schools who charge for this and not for that or charge less for this and more for that etc.....
Falcons win in Norwich by the way 89-72
thanks for +K honored to be recipient of your first
The potential problem IMHO is in meeting the Title IX "three prong tests" as far as proportionality. It would seem to me that if a school funds the overnight as proffered above for the men's basketball team then it must also be prepared to fund a trip under similar circumstances for the women's basketball team.
What an ugly game this was. Lasell missed 29 field goal attempts, had 20 turnovers, 19 personal fouls, missed 9 free throws, and they WON this game. How bad is that ? This was Lasell's third win of the year. The final score was Lasell 71 - Emmanuel 66. The Saints just continue to beat themselves. This was another very winnable game. The Saints show NO patience on offense, jacking up shots from anywhere on the court with any amount of time on the shot clock and then compound their mistakes by not sprinting back on defense giving up easy transition layups. If you are going to allow your team to take quick shots without running an offense ( even when the score was 66 - 65 with 27 seconds left ) at least teach them to sprint back and dig in. Lasell had only one capable 3 point shooter, number 24. A nice shooter, good form, nice stroke, but he shot a set shot, not a jump shot. Number 24 was not athletic enough to put the ball on the floor or get to the rim. So what do the Saints do ? They don't chase him off the arc, they leave him open to knock down 3 after 3. The other three guards are not outside shooters but they are very good at getting to the rim. Again, what do the Saints do? Instead of playing a tight zone they play a very loose man to man, allow Lasell to spread the floor and then get beat off the dribble ten possessions in a row, giving up 25 free throws. Who comes up with these game plans? Doesn't the Emmanuel coach scout the other GNAC teams before he plays them? Well, at least the Emmanuel coach used the same starting line up for two consecutive games. That is the first time this year. Why the team captain got benched after starting ten straight games is still a mystery, but that is way things are done at Emmanuel.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 08, 2015, 07:40:49 PM
7, They still have yet to play the Monks so they will get them at home and on the road. Please dont get me going about the referees in the state of Maine! I could go on and on and I remember reading one of your post in the past on the Little East thread and it seems you don't like them to much either :D
Falcons are up 16 at the half to Norwich. I want to applaud the broadcast Norwich is doing right now for the game. The play by play analyst is outstanding and the video quality is great as well. Really professional!
The people on the NESCAC board don't like them too much either.
Well, that didn't take long. Only two games into the second semester the Saints reached their milestone game, L-100, or perhaps it should be called a mill stone game. That is Emmanuel's 100 th loss since the start of the 2009 season. The Saints used poor shot selection, no clock management, and loose defense to lose to Lasell by 5 points, giving the Emmanuel coach his 100 th loss in the last 138 games. The players, line ups, and rosters, have had many changes over the last six season, the only common denominator over the last six years has been the coach.
I wonder if some creative Emmanuel art major student can photoshop a picture of the Emmanuel coach, a face shot, on top of that iconic photo of Wilt sitting in the locker room holding up a cardboard sign reading 100. That would be too funny, the Emmanuel coaches face on Wilt's body holding the 100 sign. It would be even funnier if they could photoshop the letter " L " next to the 100. Anyway, the countdown to L-200 begins on Saturday at Rivier.
Albertus vs St Joes today 3:00PM at the Nest. Certainly two of the top 3 teams in the conference with the other being JWU. A little suprised at the St Joes/JWU outcome from the other night with the Monks getting blown out by the Wildcats. With that said this is still a game the Falcons can not take lightly. St Joes is a very good 3 point shooting team and we all know they will be prepared to play. The nations longest home winning streak kicks off for the first time of the 2nd half of the season.
Lets Go Falcons!!! DUNK HAVEN!!!
Second game in a row with 6 people in double figures. I love seeing 30 a night but if the Falcons keep this up they may be more scary then we thought...doing this knowing Sledge, Davis, or Vic can go for 30 at any point.
Plus Eian for 19 and 16(!) Last year all everyone (neutral fans) talked about was how good Eian was. If he can keep this up then the sky's the limit!
A few weeks ago I watched the Anna Maria / Clark game to get a feel for the Amcats style of play. I was very impressed with how they moved the ball, looked for open men, and knocked down open shots to handle Clark and win the game. My gut feeling was that Emmanuel was going to have their hands full with a team like Anna Maria and that proved to be true today as the Saints lost by 17 at home to the Amcats. Anna Maria runs a plain flex, with baseline screens followed by down screens, followed by a ball reversal. They run it very well, sharp cuts, crisp passing, strong screening, and good shooting. The Amcats are not the only GNAC team to run a flex. Why the Saints have such trouble with teams that run a flex is still a mystery, the cuts and screens always come from the same location. After seeing the flex more than once you would think that they would be better able to defend it, but every time the Saints defense sees the flex they look completely lost.
The Amcats are not a big team, they start four guards and one forward, but their guards are very athletic and can rebound very well with other teams forwards. Especially number 22, who rebounds like a strong forward. He is not a great outside shooter but he is very smooth and athletic when attacking the rim. What they do best is spread the floor and move the ball until they find an open man. A nice team but not an overpowering team. The Amcats played a 3 - 2 match up zone daring the Saints to beat them with perimeter jump shots and the Saints responded by missing 36 FG attempts, and shooting 23% from the three point line scoring only 48 points in the entire game. Most GNAC teams have 48 points by halftime. The Saints never appear to have a pure shooter on their team. They always recruit driver / slasher type players but then give them the green light to jack up shots from the perimeter. That is a strange recruiting strategy. After watching most of the GNAC teams this year ( except Norwich ) it appeared that all the playoff spots from 3 to 8 were wide open, but losing home conference games continues to limit the Saints opportunities. This was L-101 and still counting.
Just watched the video of the Albertus game; does anyone know why Sledge went into locker room with about 4 minutes left? Didn't seem like a big injury, but I didn't notice him come back onto the court or on the bench.
Saint, you know your basketball. So, may I ask, what is the offensive philosophy of Emmanuel? At the beginning of the year, you mentioned the fast that there were some new players (mostly big guys). Do or have they tried to run the offense through the big guys, in the post? Emmanuel played well for a few games and you mention that the guards were really playing well. Is the offense a flex offense; were the guards are moving the ball and themselves to get in position for easy looks at the basket? What are they running up there? And in your opinion, what should they be running?
No, Emmanuel does not run the flex offense. Rivier, JWU, Suffolk, and Anna Maria are the GNAC teams that run the flex offense. The flex is a repeating patten of cross screens followed by down screens that you keep running until you expose the weak defender ( every team has one ) . It keeps your players from standing still on offense and often results in lay ups or wide open elbow jump shots. Emmanuel does not run a repeating offense, the Saints run a series of half court sets based on the 3-out 2-down principle. They start three players on the perimeter, usually one on the point and the two wings , and start the other two players on the blocks. The big men don't necessarily have to start on the blocks. If the big men start on the wing they will down screen for the blocks and then turn and seal on the block. The guards popping out from the block are suppose to look to enter the ball to the low post. If they can't enter the ball to the low post they are suppose to reverse the ball through the point. The big man then steps off the block and sets a back screen for the wing who cuts through the baseline to receive a double screen on the other side of the court. The big man who set the back screen then steps out to the wing to receive the ball for an isolation play. He is suppose to drive baseline against his defender because usually the big men are not good open court defenders, but a lot of times the Emmanuel big man will shoot jump shots from this isolation play. That is what I mean by poor shot selection.
If the big men do start on the blocks in the 3-out set, then the point guard is suppose to dribble at the wing and wave him through. The wing then cuts baseline behind the block and straight up the lane to the point position. The point guard, now on the wing is suppose to reverse the ball to the top of the key. When this is done the big man steps into the middle of the lane and seals his defender and the wing, who is now at the top of the key is suppose to enter the ball to the big man for a low post move. Every once in a while they also run a box set with the two big men at the elbows and the guards on the block. The big man set a down screens for the guards who pop out and enter the ball to the big men on a seal.
The problem is not the sets that they run , the problem is that they hardly ever run any sets. Very often they take a defensive rebound and run wild down the court and fire up a shot without ever setting up any plays. When they do set up a play they almost never get through the whole play before someone gets trigger happy and jacks up a shot. What good is having plays if you don't have the discipline or patience to run them ? That is where good coaching comes in to play. Next time you see Emmanuel play, count the number of times in a half that they actually set something up and run a play.
+1 for the breakdown. I will try to catch their next game.
I wish Emmanuel was better just for you Saint! LOL
PJ, not sure why Sledge left the court. It looked like he got struck in the eye with a flying hand and with under 2 minutes-ish to go he knew they had it all wrapped up. He had a great day shooting the ball but was visibly frustrated with a lot of the hand checking that he was the recipient of. St Joes played him about as physical as any team has yet and it looked like it got to him a little. Obviously you couldn't tell by the box score because he still dropped 24 points but again visibly he looked upset. He had a couple turnovers to that looked like they upset him because they weren't really his fault but rather the other players not being aware that the pass was coming. Sometime he is so quick and decisive he throws his own players off. It looked to me like it got to him too. He just needs to remember that while we certainly have some D1 talent like where he came from he still needs to remember that some of the guys aren't quite ready for the bullet no look passes that he has dished out. Are starters are ready for them but some of the "youngins" that come off the bench just aren't quite ready for those yet....I certainly understand his frustration though.
I was surprised at the way St. Joes was playing D with their hands. They were pushing and extended out while setting screening and blatantly slapping the Albertus players hands on out of bounds and set plays. This happens every game but it was pretty obvious that they were doing everything they could to try and fire the Falcons up and hope for mental mistakes because they certainly can't match Albertus talent wise. It was very chippy out there and the refs let a lot of it go.
He ran off the court fine so I don't think there was a significant injury. I will say though PJ my heart stopped for a moment when I saw him take off and I heard Coach Oliver say "where the flip is he going." You can insert your own word for flip.......kinda of like I did ;D
+1 to Saint Paul for that excellent Emmanuel offensive breakdown. I have no doubt they could be the lead college basketball analyst on ESPN or Fox Sports 1. Really knows his stuff!
Saint, Great recap and analysis as usual.....
Tomorrow the Falcons and Saints will go head to head in Boston at 7:30. I want to get your opinion on the matchup Saint.
For me, I really believe that Emmanuel is one of 2 teams in the league (the other being JWU) that can somewhat matchup with the Falcons from an athletic and size standpoint. Notice I said "somewhat"
They have bigs down low but judging by your recaps and analysis they don't seem to get them involved a lot. The Saints have some guards who can get up and down but again appears they aren't good decision makers and take to many quick shots before letting their offense run its course.
It would appear that coaching will be a big factor in this game and we all know how Saint feels about Coach Jackson. Regardless we can all basically give Coach Oliver the nod in the category anyways. The Falcons do struggle on the road a bit because of their inability to shut teams down on the defensive end. I can see the Saints hanging around in this game before a late second half push that we as Falcon fans have grown accustomed to seeing night in night out.
My final score prediction is 94-79 Albertus. This will no doubt be a very physical game as well......to teams with animated coaches who from what I have noticed over the years don't exactly share many pleasantries before and after games.
No, I don't think the Saints are going to match up with AMC, I believe that they will play a 3 - 2 zone with Hadley and Davis on the blocks, and Diggs, Smith, Bushman, on the perimeter. I think they will double Victor in the post and take their chances with the AMC perimeter shooters. The Saints lineup has changed nine times already this year so that alignment is tentative at best. I am sure that the game plan is to try to get Victor in foul trouble early in the game by going to the low post on the first three possessions of the game, but again, that only has a chance of working if the guards don't get trigger happy first. If they do have to match up you can expect Diggs / Davis, Smith / Sledge, Bushman / Jennings, Hadley / Larsen, Davis / Victor. I don't see the Saints winning any of these match ups if they have to play man. So much for the game plan, what will really happen is that the Saints guards will try to bomb a lot of 3 balls early in the game to see if they are going to have a " hot " night. I can't stand that strategy because it leads to long rebounds and easy run outs for the other team. AMC is so quick in transition that you don't have to give them a head start by shooting a lot of threes. I would like to see the Saints slow the pace, keep the zone below the arc, walk the ball up the floor, take 28 seconds off the shot clock, not shoot until one of the post players has already gotten a touch, keep the score in the low 60's, and try to steal a win with a shot at the buzzer. Fat chance of that happening. And finally, yes coaching will play a part in this game as well, but for the Saints coaching plays a part in all their game, not just this one.
Question for the GNAC crew....I saw that the GNAC's leading scorer (24.9) Nwadike from Suffolk has not played in the last two games. I just heard from someone I know who said he has a possible season ending injury. Does anyone have any info on this one? Would be a devistating loss for Suffolk.
I honestly had no idea it wasn't Sledge :P ???
Last nights game with AMC is a perfect example of why I am so frustrated with the way the Emmanuel program is being run. AMC is one of the best fast break teams in the country, with very quick, athletic, players who can get down court and finish. Why would an opponent play right into that up tempo style of play. The Saints were obviously given the green light to push the ball up the court every time the got their hands on the ball. That kind of coaching game plan just puts a team at a disadvantage before the ball is even tossed. The majority of the time the Saints pushed the ball up the court without running any plays which resulted in wild, off balanced shots that missed and led to runouts for AMC, or just plain turnovers that resulted in slam dunks at the other end. The fast break points were 26 to 2. I guess the Emmanuel coach just doesn't understand the concept of controlling tempo, slowing down a fast break team and making them run a half court offense. There are a few different ways to bottle up and frustrate a fast break team, and the Saints didn't try any of them, they just continued to try and outrun one of the best running teams in the country. That is just a ridiculous game plan. This game was only competitive for the first eight minutes of the first half. After the twelve minute mark of the first half it was all AMC. The game was already over with 32 minutes left to play. I can remember saying the exact same thing about last years game with AMC also, so the Saints coach refused to change his game plan this year even after getting clobbered last year. That is the kind of stubbornness that has resulted in 102 losses in the last 140 games.
Some game notes :
1 - AMC had 33 FGs from 26 Assists, that is outstanding production and great ball movement.
2 - Victor had 10 blocked shots and shot 8 -12 from the field, that is dominating the paint.
3 - Kyle Davis had 19 points / 10 rebounds. That kind of effort is needed ever night, not just in big games.
4 - Saints had 22 turnovers that led to 27 AMC points, completely unnecessary if you slow down the game and take care of the ball.
5 - Saints used their tenth new starting lineup in 13 games so far this year. Will one of the other GNAC coaches please send the Emmanuel coach an e-mail telling him who his 5 best players are, because obviously he doesn't know.
6 - Saints shot 24 - 72 from the field, missing 48 shot attempts. Maybe it is time to recruit a shooter instead of a driver ?
Saint, I waited for you to post your recap because I knew yours would be much more descriptive and accurate. +K to you.
I watched the game online and the entire time I thought to myself I can't believe this Coach is trying to run with Albertus. Just a terrible job of game planning and unfortunately it put this young inexperienced struggling team in no position to win the game. You hit it head on Saint.
Albertus looked good, they were flying all over the court as usual and playing pretty good defense. The ball pressure that Sledge and Eian apply is outstanding and really took a toll on the Emmanuel guards.
Turnovers are still an issue early in games, they always buckle down in the 2nd half but I'm afraid when we face the upper echelon of teams this could be a huge factor. We gotta tighten it up Falcons!!!
Also, we got out rebounded last night. Another negative but there were a number of long rebounds that we just couldn't get our hands on and again sometimes we don't secure the ball completely. We are so worried about getting out and running and gunning that we give up a lot of loose ones.
Overall I was still very pleased with the entire effort. This team is filled with fighters and you can tell that they are just different then teams in years past. This team can truly be special and get us to the top.
Lasell at home on Saturday.......the nation's longest home winning streak takes the court again!!! I saw some tweets and other things on Sportcenter with the Duke streak being snapped the other night and couldn't help but think to myself.....these people are wrong!!!! The longest in the country belongs to the Falcons and it's still going!!! I was going to write to ESPN but I figured it would most likely fall on deaf ears.
ESPN could give a rats ass about college basketball if you aren't in one of the top 5 "BCS Conferences." Even Gonzaga (now #3 in the country I believe) and Wichita State (top 15 in the country) hardly get any press because they play outside a BCS conference and God-forbid a division 3 team get any mention at all.
I think the Amherst women earlier this year won like their 100th straight home game or some ridiculous number like that and got some mention in the last 30 seconds of Sportscenter....I think mainly because the streak they broke was UConn's NCAA record.
57-31 Albertus over Riv at the half
Anna Maria is up 15 at St. joe's at the half.
Anna maria gets a big win on the road against St. Joes.
Not surprised by the Anna Maria win at St Joe. Saw AM beat the Saints last week by 17 and thought that they would match up well with St Joe, starting a very athletic forward and four guards that can shoot the ball. AM plays a similar style to St Joe, moving the ball and looking for open shots, only running for opportunity baskets. It looks like the Amcats beat St Joe at its own game by knocking down 14 three balls. That is impressive shooting, especially on the road. It pays to recruit shooters. Nice road win for Anna Maria over a good team.
Another really bad loss for the Saints, this time to Norwich 71 - 66, who had only 1 GNAC win before this game. Emmanuel ran out to a big lead, 20 to 7, after the first 7 minutes of this game and then watched the lead slip away going from up 13 to down 9, a 22 point swing, in a short period of time. Norwich had nobody who could guard the Saints big man. The Emmanuel center finished with 29 points, 21 rebounds, and took 12 free throws, and the Saints still lost this game. All the Saints were interested in was running down court and getting a shot off, not paying any attention to the defensive end of the court, giving up 63% shooting to Norwich in the second half. Loss 103 and counting.
Saints coach used another new starting line up again. That is 11 times in 14 games this year. This time he changed 3 of the starting positions. No wonder the Saints have no team chemistry on the court the way the players constantly get jerked in and out of the rotation.
Albertus only up 9, 34-25 at the half against the Riv. The ol' MLK Matinee must not be enough to get the Falcons fired up lol. I imagine Mitch won't be pleasant in the locker room.
Well I guess they got the message at half lol 87-53 Albertus
Well, nothing new about the Emmanuel loss to JWU, 74 to 48. The Emmanuel coach did indeed use another new starting line up, the 12 th in 15 games. Two of the new starters did not score a single point, zero, in the entire game. I hope the JWU coach sent him a thank you card. I guess everybody on the Saints team is going to get their chance to start a game this year. At least that will keep them from noticing their won / loss record. The Saints had a brand new player in uniform for this game that was not on the team last week, and he played 6 minutes of the this game. I guess the Emmanuel coach is drafting players from the intramural squads now. The new kid will probably be in the starting line up next week. Loss 104 and counting.
Greenaway was sensational, 26 points, 21 rebounds, 7 assists, 15 free throws. He out rebounded the entire Emmanuel starting five. Garrick also had a nice game for the Wildcats, 16 points, 11 rebounds, 3 steals. JWU was up 20 to 9 at the 10 minute mark, 30 to 14 at the 5 minute mark, 39 to 20 at halftime and cruised to an easy 26 point win. The Saints shot 32% from the field, and went 0 - 9 from behind the arc. The Saints big man scored the first five points of the game and then didn't get another touch until the last minute of the first half. That is just not good team chemistry by the other players on the team. No point in even discussing the Saints game plan of trying to run up and down the floor with this very athletic JWU team. That subject is old news, nothing there is going to change. The Saints opened the game in a 1 - 2 - 2 full court press and promptly went down by 11 points before the first time out could be called. The Saints offense looked really dysfunctional in this game as is the case any time they play a team with an above 0.500 record.
I am expecting a tough game for the Falcons this Saturday as they hit the road to take on St. Joes in Standish Maine for a 2PM contest. Thankfully they have a fairly decent broadcast so watching the game isn't all that painful. I guess if you compare it to Albertus broadcasts it looks like HD anyways.
I expected the Monks to play us hard in New Haven earlier in the season but that was just not the case. Sure they went on a few runs and they move the ball and run their offense very efficiently but overall the talent and athleticism and scheming of Albertus clearly was the difference. But as we all know in Maine this game can clearly go either way. The Monks handed the Falcons their worse loss of the season last year at home. Playing a team that shoots the 3 ball at a high rate in their own gym is always a challenge not to mention having the home crowd advantage and unfortunately referee advantage as well. The state of Maine may have some of the worst officiating I have ever seen at the college D3 level and I now I am not the only one who feels this way.....cough cough 7Express ;D
In the end I think the Falcons prevail but it will not come easy.
Two big wins last week by Anna Maria over St Joe and Lasell, and six straight GNAC wins. The Amcats are starting to show some separation from the rest of the teams at the bottom of the conference. Home wins over Lasell and Norwich and road wins over Emmanuel and St Joe certainly put the Amcats in position to secure third place for the conference play offs. That will give them some incentive for their upcoming games with JWU and AMC. Winning streaks usually do that. I would not be surprised if their upcoming games with JWU and AMC are more competitive than expected. Good games to watch on live stream.
It is all about how you are playing near the end of the year. Anna Maria seems to be playing their best basketball! Let's not forget, Anna Maria was in back to back GNAC championship games. They are never very deep, but they do a good job with the talent they have. I will be watching the JWU/Anna Maria game very closely.
On a side note, I should have been a NFL official.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 21, 2015, 09:42:21 AM
I am expecting a tough game for the Falcons this Saturday as they hit the road to take on St. Joes in Standish Maine for a 2PM contest. Thankfully they have a fairly decent broadcast so watching the game isn't all that painful. I guess if you compare it to Albertus broadcasts it looks like HD anyways.
I expected the Monks to play us hard in New Haven earlier in the season but that was just not the case. Sure they went on a few runs and they move the ball and run their offense very efficiently but overall the talent and athleticism and scheming of Albertus clearly was the difference. But as we all know in Maine this game can clearly go either way. The Monks handed the Falcons their worse loss of the season last year at home. Playing a team that shoots the 3 ball at a high rate in their own gym is always a challenge not to mention having the home crowd advantage and unfortunately referee advantage as well. The state of Maine may have some of the worst officiating I have ever seen at the college D3 level and I now I am not the only one who feels this way.....cough cough 7Express ;D
In the end I think the Falcons prevail but it will not come easy.
Does St. Joes still have the ridiculous $9.99 fee to watch the game on-line, or did they drop that this year??
Tried to watch the St Joe game tonight but they wanted my credit card first. NO WAY. So I enjoyed watching the Anna Maria / Rivier game. Anna Maria was up 14 to 17 points most of the game and won easily. AM is an interesting team. They are not super quick, not super athletic, not dominating in the post but they know how to win. They will pass the ball 5, 6, 7, times in one possession just to get the shot that they want, which is either a layup or an open 3 pointer. They really move the ball and are patient with their possessions. They don't appear to care who scores but just keep looking for the open man. I enjoy watching basketball played that way. They don't have a " pure " shooter but they can make open shots when left unguarded. I don't think they have the foot speed or the size to pull off an upset over AMC or JWU but they will make it interesting.
Rivier is just short on talent, even though they play hard. While watching this game I kept thinking how could Emmanuel lose to Rivier back in December? I still don't know.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on January 22, 2015, 10:09:57 PM
Tried to watch the St Joe game tonight but they wanted my credit card first. NO WAY. So I enjoyed watching the Anna Maria / Rivier game. Anna Maria was up 14 to 17 points most of the game and won easily. AM is an interesting team. They are not super quick, not super athletic, not dominating in the post but they know how to win. They will pass the ball 5, 6, 7, times in one possession just to get the shot that they want, which is either a layup or an open 3 pointer. They really move the ball and are patient with their possessions. They don't appear to care who scores but just keep looking for the open man. I enjoy watching basketball played that way. They don't have a " pure " shooter but they can make open shots when left unguarded. I don't think they have the foot speed or the size to pull off an upset over AMC or JWU but they will make it interesting.
Rivier is just short on talent, even though they play hard. While watching this game I kept thinking how could Emmanuel lose to Rivier back in December? I still don't know.
It's ridiculous to charge money to watch a broadcast...particularly one that probably isn't any good to boot. Heck, you don't even have to pay to watch some Division I games online!
Albertus beats St. Joes 80-66. Like everyone else, I dydbt pay to watch the video. St joes has got to be kidding me. 10 fts for amc all game. For a team that attacks the rim, that's very very very low. No surprise though, it's st joes refs
As all of us here I didn't watch either. However, following the live stats it looked like St Joes cut it to 3 in the 2nd half. Next time I looked AMC was back up 16 so a great response there. Vic was huge with 25-14-5, and all 5 starters in double figures. Looks like Mitch is starting to shorten the bench as the games become more meaningful. Julian was the only one with a significant amount of minutes. If foul trouble is avoided it seems to be Julian, and then whoever looks the best that day. Today, Marc Wilson got the next highest with 7. Some days it seems to be Walters, others Walker, sometimes Mitchell (who didn't even play this game). Good road win for the Falcons all and all.
Falcon Fans!!! I convinced the wife to take the ride up! Made a weekend of it with a stop at the Kittery Trading Post!! I'll give a more detailed analysis in a while. Dinner time....gonna treat myslef to a Lobster dinner after this win!!
Can't wait for the breakdown, D3Junk
Hi Guys, I noticed that Victor, Eian, and Tavon, played 40, 40, and 37 minutes respectively. Was the game really that close? I saw St Joe play three times this year and even though they move the ball nicely, they could not control the rebounds at either end of the floor. Has that changed? They usually give up a lot of offensive rebounds giving the opponents extra possessions. That has kept them out of a lot of games this year. What did you guys observe?
That's some dedication that drive! Lol that's awesome.
Saint, I only saw updated stats. Albertus seemed in control the whole way. I actually didn't know they cut it to three in the second half. I was checking here and there, surprised if that's the case. I know its always a tough game up there, bc they play well at home. Those zebras don't help lol
Waiting for D3s report like a kid on Christmas Eve lol
New to the board, been following the GNAC for a few years now, thought I'd share some things I noticed. First, looking at the stats, looks like it was a 7 point game at halftime and then St. Joe's cut the lead to 1 at about the 10 minute mark of the second half yesterday.
To Saint-Paul's point, Albertus had 14 offensive rebounds yesterday, not surprising given the size difference of the two teams. But, if you look at the team stats on the GNAC website, St. Joe's gives up the second fewest offensive rebounds per game and actually has a positive rebounding margin (http://thegnac.com/sports/mbkb/2014-15/teams?sort=orebpgopp&r=0&pos=def).
I think the GNAC's pretty much played out as expected this year, with Anna Maria's surge into 3rd maybe the only minor surprise. Two games I'm looking forward to; the rematch of JWU/Albertus @ JWU and the two Suffolk/St. Joe's matchups. Obviously JWU/Albertus is the one that everyone has circled, but I think Suffolk and St. Joe's are the two teams that'll be looking to fight for that 4th seed and final home quarter-final down the stretch.
Welcome to the board GNAC! Any particular affiliation?
Ok Albertus fans!!! I have arrived home and it seems there is much anticipation!!!
Before I begin I just want to say I am not going to reference the horrible officiating in this game. It was just beyond bad but the Falcons pushed through it all and with the exception of James Jennings getting a T which led to his 5th foul......for the most part the entire team kept their emotions in check and played the game with a chip on their shoulder because we all know what happened to them last year up in Standish.
I need to start off first and foremost with our defense in yesterday contest. This was without question the best defensive effort I have seen Albertus put together not just this year but maybe in the last 3 years! They made St. Joes work for every single shot they took. The ball pressure was outstanding. Sledge absolutely locked down Simonds and even though he had 21 points both of his 3 pointers where "garbage" 3's with one banking off the glass and the other coming in the last minute of play. They created 19 St. Joes turnovers and scored 19 points off of those turnovers. Just a tremendous defensive effort from everyone involved. As we all know it will come down to defense with this team and if they play like they did yesterday I really think it would be difficult for any team anywhere to compete with us.
From an individual standpoint clearly by the stat sheet alone you could all see Big Vic stole the show which he in fact did. Just a monster of a game for him. He had points, rebounds, blocks and even had a few steal which lead to open court dunks. Just did it all yesterday.
Player of the day however goes to Lemar Larsen, this young man night in and night out takes a beating down low and continues to just go about his business and play a great game. It seemed to me like he had his hands on every loose ball and flew all over the place for rebounds. He truly is the definition of a leader. The way he carries himself on the court is just different in a way than anybody else I have seen. A tremendous attitude from a really nice kid. Its a pleasure watching him play the game. He is a grinder!
Both Eian and Sledge did their thing as usual. Pushed the tempo the entire game and were both able to slow the ball up and run the offense when needed to. These two together are a special combination. Its interesting because the last few games you can see on the court that they have gotten into it with each other at some points......Sometimes frustrated with plays and distribution of the ball but no matter what these two always seem to tap each other on the backside and put it behind them. They are both so damn competitive and once in a while they lose their "cool" but if you look closely in my opinion it actually fires them up in a good way and they start to feed off the other. As they go we go.
Now to when St. Joes pulled within 3 points, yes this was a classic run of a team getting a little hot at home and have the ball and whistle (I know I said I wasn't going to refer to the refs but had no choice) go in their favor on about 5 different trips down the court with each one resulting in the Falcons coming up empty on their offensive end. But Albertus hunkered down and got back into control in about the blink of an eye. Sledge really took over at this point and Eian had a few incredible assists to both Sledge and Big Vic. With about 9 minutes to go in the game after we went on that run St. Joes just had nothing left in the tank. They were absolutely gassed and Albertus proved once again why they are without doubt one of the toughest teams in the country to matchup with for a full 40 minutes.
BIGGEST news of the day!!! Their was a new player sitting on the end of the bench for Albertus. He was in street clothes but I have no idea of his name or where he came from but you can definitely tell he is a transfer. What his eligibility is I have no idea? I mean I cant even call him a kid as he looked like he was 30 years old LOL but he had to be all of 6'7 260-270 pounds. Did anyone here of a new transfer? I almost don't even think he would be able to play right now if he was eligible because he is a bit out of shape (although I would never say that to his face ;D and I hope he doesn't read this LOL) Oliver's recruiting ability never ceases to amaze me. The guy is just a coach from top to bottom.
Falcon2010 aka PJ.....you have done some digging and have been close to Oliver in the past maybe you can get us some info on this new addition?
Also welcome GNACFollower11......with Ferraro13 that's 2 new additions to the GNAC board in the last week and a half alone!!! We are getting closer and closer to NESCAC thread credibility ;) were not even close LOL but its still progress. Just wish there were fans from more GNAC teams on here other than Albertus and our good friend up in Boston for Emmanuel Saint-Paul who hands down provides the best and most in depth analysis which in my opinion would challenge anyone's team analysis on any of the boards from around the country here!
Quote from: Ferraro13 on January 24, 2015, 04:15:27 PM
Albertus beats St. Joes 80-66. Like everyone else, I dydbt pay to watch the video. St joes has got to be kidding me. 10 fts for amc all game. For a team that attacks the rim, that's very very very low. No surprise though, it's Maine refs
There! Fixed it for you! That looks better!
I think the new guys name is Dashawn Carter. He played atSt. Louis CC but is from Brooklyn, NY. NJCAA website has him listed at 6'6.
Yeah I was gonna say, Mitch back at it in the Brooklyn area so it makes perfect sense!
Quote from: lildave678 on October 02, 2014, 10:36:38 PM
Found myself on Eian's Instagram and I noticed 2 things...
1. In a comment someone asked him how Sledge and him would play together, but that they'd make it work.
2. On a different pic, someone with a username that has nothing to do with an actual name (inkedupbros_ceo) said he'll be there in Jan and he's in the best shape of his life, to which Eian replied, "Let's go get this Ship!"
Conclusions: Tavon Sledge is on the team and someone of note at least to Eian may join the team in January. Don't think it's Rameau as I've seen him on video and he's not all tatted up like this guy lol
This post I made back in October...I believe it's the same guy based on pictures. Dude looks like an absolute animal. Any word on his eligibility? I'll take him for as long as we get him but hopefully he's not coming in with only semester left, especially with Vic and Lemar graduating.
I really need to step my social media game up!!! Unfortunately however posting to these boards is about as social as I get in terms of technology
Quote from: Albertus2007 on January 25, 2015, 06:09:08 PM
I think the new guys name is Dashawn Carter. He played atSt. Louis CC but is from Brooklyn, NY. NJCAA website has him listed at 6'6.
Wait, so is this guy playing this Spring?
Hoops,
From what I am hearing now most recently he is elegible to play this second half.....whether Coach Oliver chooses to allow that or keep him for a full 2 years is entirely up to him. As I mentioned in one of my previous posts, he looked a bit out of shape to be running and gunning with this team.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 26, 2015, 01:45:02 PM
Hoops,
From what I am hearing now most recently he is elegible to play this second half.....whether Coach Oliver chooses to allow that or keep him for a full 2 years is entirely up to him. As I mentioned in one of my previous posts, he looked a bit out of shape to be running and gunning with this team.
You have any other info on him? Unless he's 35 years old, I can't find anything online about him.
Only thing I found is this article back from 2010 when he was going STLCC...
http://www.stlcc.edu/Newsroom/2010/09/News1.html (http://www.stlcc.edu/Newsroom/2010/09/News1.html)
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high-school/robeson-rebounds-year-brawl-article-1.276142
Found this. This kid is another big man to go along with Vic, imo mitch has got to play him this yr, with a legit shot at making a run in march. Not sure about his shape, but in this pic it seems as if he's always played without being in dwight howard shape. lets hope he's good to go, this is a huge addition if he's ready!
Saw that article too F13...but it's from 2007 lol so I didn't know how relevant it was.
I couldnt find much myself on Carter other than what was already posted by others. Either way based on what little we have read about him it seems like he was a pretty highly recruited prospect coming out of NY and chose to take the JUCO route with hopes of getting more exposure and signing with a good NCAA program. Fortanatley for us he landed at The Nest!! It will be interesting to see if he laces them up this year or if he waits it out! Hes obviously a strong player that could help out otherwise Coach Oliver simply wouldnt have taken him at this point in the season.
Albertus vs. Newbury tonight......I don't see any angle in which Newbury will be able to make this game competitive. The Falcons are simply too strong at every position. Not to mention Albertus is going for an all division nationwide best 50 consecutive wins at home.......I'm taking the Falcons in a route.
Game time is set for 7:00PM
It also looks like Tuesday night's game that was postponed against Mount Ida has been moved to Thursday Feb. 19 for a 7:00 PM tipoff
DaShawn Carter played two minutes tonight - so that question is answered.
50 in a row!!!!
What an achievement by the Falcons!!!
Hoops I saw Carter get into the game and my hunch was right....he is not in shape to run with this team but he is officially eligible to play so we will see what we can get out of him in this second half. I have total trust in Oliver; he wouldn't have let this kid play if he didn't feel he could contribute in some way shape or form.
Also, he got into the game when we had over a 40 point lead so you can take that with a grain of salt as well.
This team is looking better and better each game. Defensively they are starting to put it together which is very scary for opposing coaches and teams.
On to the next one!! Onto 51!!! Dunk Haven!!!!
Watched the video replay of the Anna Maria / JWU game and was very impressed with the Amcats win on the road. Clearly a statement win. First of all, JWU did not beat themselves, they played a very solid game at both ends of the floor. JWU did not settle for perimeter jump shots, they attacked the rim, crashed the glass, pushed the ball, and played pressure defense, blocking multiple shots and forcing multiple shot clock violations ( 4 blocks, 11 steals ) . The Amcats just did not panic. They ran their offense with patience and discipline, moved the ball, took good shots, and jumped on every loose ball. The Amcats came back from down 17 with 8 minutes left on some hot shooting to win by 3. They scored 27 points in the last 8 minutes. They also were very smart on defense, switching up their defensive looks four times to keep JWU off balance. Sometimes they came out of a TO in a 3 - 2 match up zone, sometimes it was a half court trap, sometimes it was straight man. The three AM players that were impressive shooting the ball were # 21 Bradanese 24 pts, #3 Deloray 18 pts, and #22 Franklin 16 pts. The Amcats shot 51% for the game with 44% from the 3 point line. The Amcat player that was impressive but not flashy was # 12 the point guard. He played 35 of 40 minutes and handled the ball under intense defensive pressure from Greenaway, but did not panic. He settled his team down and kept his teammates focused on running their plays. # 12 clearly provided leadership and poise for the Amcats.
For JWU Greenaway was sensational again, with 28 points and 9 rebounds. Garrick and Lawson also had 17 points each. Garrick tied the game on a transition layup with 38 seconds left, got fouled, but missed the go ahead free throw. On the next possession Garrick was called for a loose ball foul while diving on the floor and the Amcat made both free throws. Overall, a very exciting game to watch, good basketball, shoot shooting, good defense.
Both teams , Emmanuel and Rivier , came into this game with identical 2 - 7 conference records, so something had to give. The Emmanuel big man was too much for Rivier to defend in the paint and he finished with 21 points and 11 rebounds. The Saints shot a blistering 34 % from the field and 20% behind the arc to beat Rivier by 11 points, 60 - 49. In spite of 22 turnovers the Saints pick up their fifth win of the season. The Saints used another new starting line up against Rivier, their 13 th of the season, everybody gets a turn.
Albertus up 30 late in the 2nd here. Anyone know what's up with Mr. Jennings? Didn't start last game (though he played 19 minutes) and today he doesn't play?
Emmanuel 59 Lasell 55. I only saw the score but another bad loss for the Lasers.
Was Jennings at the game?
Yes he was at the game but in street clothes. He did not start the previous game because he got a T in the game before that against St. Joes. That has always been one of Coach Olivers rules. As to why he was in street clothes for this game I am not really sure? He certainly didn't look like he had an injury because he was dribbling around and looked healthy on the sidelines. I guess we will have to wait and see! Kind of a sloppy game today for the Falcons but a dominating win nonetheless.
51 and counting........
Final score Emmanuel 59 - Lasell 55. Watching this game was like watching a Thursday night pick up game at the BSC health club. Both teams just ran up and down the floor taking bad shot after bad shot or else taking turns throwing the ball away. Emmanuel committed 24 turnovers and Lasell committed 20. Emmanuel shot 18% from behind the 3 point line and Lasell shot 31% from 3. The only difference in the game was that Lasell had no one who could cover the Saints big man in the low post. He finished with 23 points, 9 rebounds, and 7 turnovers. Neither team showed any poise or discipline. No one bothered to run very many plays, as soon as either team got hold of the ball it was off to the races , and the first player over half court was pulling up for a jump shot or else driving one on three into the lane. A difficult game to watch. In the last 30 seconds of the game with Emmanuel holding a 2 point lead the Saints could not protect the ball. Lasell stole the ball twice, once resulting in a 3 point air ball ( no set play ) and the second time with 2 missed free throws ( one short, one lane violation ) that would have tied the game with 5 seconds on the clock. Not a well played game by any means.
Watched the video reply of the St Joe / Anna Maria exciting 104 - 105 overtime game. What a competitive, well played game, featuring disciplined offense, unselfish passing, great hustle, and clutch shooting. Both teams traded clutch 3 point baskets in the last 60 seconds of regulation and then again in the last minute of the overtime with just one free throw deciding the game for Anna Maria. For a minute I thought I was watching a rerun of the movie Hoosiers, since both AM and St Joe combined to MAKE 24 three point shots. Most of the field goals in this game came from running their half court sets to perfection. The screens, ball reversals, cutting, and hitting the open man all executed flawlessly. Both teams combined for 43 assists in this game. Simonds had 37 points for St Joe, along with Blodgett's 19 . For Anna Maria it was again Bradanese 22 and Deloray 23 leading the team. The shooting was deadly for both teams with St Joe shooting 58% from the field and the Amcats besting that with 64% for the game. St Joe looked very much improved since I last saw them play a while ago. Their passing looked crisp and sharp, and the timing of their offensive sets looked on the mark. They are playing very well together right now. The Amcats are just on a very big roll right now. They see every open man, get to every loose ball, knock down big shot after big shot, and are showing a lot of team chemistry right now. Not sure why neither team has bloggers writing about their games. These are both fun, exciting, and talented teams to watch.
D3, you know what is interesting about the streak. The game against Medgar Evers that Albertus lost; Coach Oliver wasn't coaching. So, the last game that Mitch Oliver lost at home (including post season play) was on January 25, 2011. So, for him, you can add another 8 games to the streak.
Its crazy isnt it PJ, I remember that game. He was ejected after a double tech. No disrespect to the assistant Coaches or anything but if Oliver was out there for the entirety of the game I dont think we would have lost.
All part of the game though. Thats why they play it. Just sucks knowing that if we are fortunate enough to run the table the rest of the season at home we still have to wait till next season to see if we can break the all time record!
i remember that game as well, medgar evers won on a buzzer beater........a double tech for Oliver??? Uh oh, Dave just dropped Albertus another spot in his regional rankings
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 02, 2015, 06:51:35 AM
Its crazy isnt it PJ, I remember that game. He was ejected after a double tech. No disrespect to the assistant Coaches or anything but if Oliver was out there for the entirety of the game I dont think we would have lost.
I would dare say part of being a good coach is avoiding being ejected ...
No question Pat but at the same time sometimes its done to try and light a fire for your team and other times its warranted. And in that game it was warranted.
All the greats of this game have gotten ejected before, Coach K, Coach Calhoun, Boehiem, and on and on and many more. Just another part of the game.
We like the way Coach Oliver coaches and the way his team plays. Regardless of what everyone else thinks it doesnt matter to him or the team, there going to show up and play as hard as they can everynight
Forgot to mention a guy named Bobby Knight......
Lol oh Goodness, not Pat too
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 02, 2015, 12:57:03 PM
No question Pat but at the same time sometimes its done to try and light a fire for your team and other times its warranted. And in that game it was warranted.
Then it's kind of disingenuous to then also give him a pass for the team's loss, right?
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 02, 2015, 02:12:49 PM
Lol oh Goodness, not Pat too
Yes -- those neutral observers who aren't biased toward Albertus Magnus might not drink the kool-aid. :)
Pat, I wasnt giving them a "pass" for the teams loss. Just making an observation and prediction based on the way the game ended that day and how things transpired as the game went on.
No neutral observers will ever drink the kool-aid of Albertus Magnus. Even though they have improved in the tournament every year and have been nationally ranked year and and year out for the last few seasons now. The biggest knock against Albertus is obviously the GNAC conference but anyone who knows basketball knows that it doesnt matter how good or bad your conference is, there's nothing harder than winning it every year after year and thats exactly what the Falcons do.
I would like to know what a neutral observer is though? I'm not calling you out Pat, but everyone for the most part who votes or contributes to the top 25 in anyway shape or form. How may games have these people seen Albertus play? I mean honestly at this level because of exposure issues in terms of only seeing teams on video stream or reading box scores. Everything is based on numbers at the D3 level......with the exception of you yourself Pat and Dave who I'm sure watch a number of games online through video streams everybody else in the top 25 who votes probably doesn't even see these teams (not just Albertus) play week to week. They get the packet that D3Hoops.com sends out everyweek with wins and losses and thats it.
The eye test is far more important then anything you see on paper and again I know it's not the voters fault necessarily but it's just a shame that that's what it comes down to.
With regards to the D3Hoops.com packet I didn't mean that it just contains wins and losses of teams. I'm sure there's a plethora of information within it that voters look at and make there best judgement based on those numbers
good point Pat, however its invalid bc Oliver was double T'd the game prior to Medgar Evers, a game they ended up winning. He served his one game suspension the next game, medlar evers, and they lost on a buzzer beater. year before that, Oliver served the same one game suspension. They played rivier and lost, in what was the last game of the yr. well first round of gnat tourney, they play rivier again, the very next game in the first round. this time with oliver. and win by 30 plus. The point is the team is a different with him coaching. but you obv see it your way. i just wish that if you get oliver in an interview, like yrs prior, you guys actually have the guts to confront him with these concerns you bring up on this board. bc just like you critiquing olives coaching, i can critique your journalism. so hopefully you or dave has the guts to do that, unlike years prior. I'm sure he'd be glad to answer
sorry for the typos, stupid iPhone
had forgotten my log in info, but I'm back! lets go falcons!!!
GNACBballFan.....welcome back and way to come back in a big way.
I however have to apologize to Pat because I totally forgot about Oliver recieving the Double T in the game prior but I do remeber it now. For some reason I had thought it was at the very beginning of this game with Medgar Evers.
Regardless of this I still think my points are valid
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 02, 2015, 08:49:45 PM
The eye test is far more important then anything you see on paper and again I know it's not the voters fault necessarily but it's just a shame that that's what it comes down to.
But if the eye test is more important than anything, how many teams do you have to eye test in order to vote? And then, what good is your eye test if you see a team play a crappy team? There can't be more than a couple games per year one can accurately "eye test" Albertus against.
I saw Albertus play against Stockton this year. I think Albertus is as talented, if not moreso, than any other team in d3. The problem is, there are a lot of very talented teams - when they face each other, often discipline and teamwork win more often than talent. My experience with Albertus is that they play more loose and freely than most teams. I imagine that's a good way to get good players to come to Albertus in the first place, but it can backfire on you against good teams.
I look at Albertus and I see a team that could beat anyone on any night, even if the other team is playing their best game. I just have trouble believing in their consistency because of the style of play. One guy on a different page on one night could mean the difference in the tournament.
I haven't seen much of them as the season has moved along. I hear the chemistry has improved, but there's really just no way to know for sure until they play better opponents. It's why Dave won't put them above 12 - it's why, I imagine, a number of voters are reluctant to move them up as quickly.
With Albertus you could get a 40 out of them or a 100 depending on a lot of factors - I suspect many voters are more comfortable voting for a team that will give you 80-90 every night.
That's the result of my eye test, anyway.
Fair assessment to me hoops!!!
Dave ranks Albertus 11th in his poll, and says that's their ceiling, won't rank them any higher hahahahahahaha. That makes a lot of sense. I needed a good laugh, thanks Dave!
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 03, 2015, 10:15:57 PM
Fair assessment to me hoops!!!
Dave ranks Albertus 11th in his poll, and says that's their ceiling, won't rank them any higher hahahahahahaha. That makes a lot of sense. I needed a good laugh, thanks Dave!
Based on who they played I can see why he would think that. I notice teams hop over Albertus Magnus on a weekly basis in the Top 25 so there must me many more voters who think the same way.
You may say "we can only play who's on our schedule" but the same is true for voters: We can only rank you based on who you played.
Even into last year's tournament, Albertus was ranked 13th, beat No. 14 on a neutral floor by two and then beat No. 15 in a close game on 15's floor. I think the poll held up pretty well there.
So far Albertus probably has a slightly better resume than it did last year -- only loss is to a ranked team (Central Connecticut game not a factor), no bad loss as of yet. They don't have a win over a ranked team like the Purchase win in January last year but they don't have the bad loss either.
An enigma until the NCAA Tournament.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 04, 2015, 04:20:35 PM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 03, 2015, 10:15:57 PM
Fair assessment to me hoops!!!
Dave ranks Albertus 11th in his poll, and says that's their ceiling, won't rank them any higher hahahahahahaha. That makes a lot of sense. I needed a good laugh, thanks Dave!
Based on who they played I can see why he would think that. I notice teams hop over Albertus Magnus on a weekly basis in the Top 25 so there must me many more voters who think the same way.
You may say "we can only play who's on our schedule" but the same is true for voters: We can only rank you based on who you played.
Even into last year's tournament, Albertus was ranked 13th, beat No. 14 on a neutral floor by two and then beat No. 15 in a close game on 15's floor. I think the poll held up pretty well there.
So far Albertus probably has a slightly better resume than it did last year -- only loss is to a ranked team (Central Connecticut game not a factor), no bad loss as of yet. They don't have a win over a ranked team like the Purchase win in January last year but they don't have the bad loss either.
An enigma until the NCAA Tournament.
I don't even think they're an enigma. I'm sold on the capabilities. I'm just completely unsure what team will show up on a given night.
Pat, they beat the 15th ranked team by 8 on their home court. Close game, i suppose, but Albertus was in control pretty much the entire game. Anyhow, I have no problem with them being ranked 11th. What I have a problem with is that Dave says thats their ceiling. So he has a pre determined spot for them, even though he has said on multiple occasions this top 25 is wacky. So why is their no shot to have albertus higher? Seems like narrow minded thinking to me is all. Also, maybe albertus was ranked good where they were last yr as you stated, but i remember a little debate with dave where he had them like 7 in new england, and clearly he was way off there. As they proved that in the tourney. Last thing, I remember the trinity's and west conns having NOOOOO problem playing albertus when i was a student from 04-08. Then Oliver came around and all the sudden those schools don't want to play????? this is a guy who has scheduled Central and Yale twice, one game in which they led with less then a minute.
Mind you I know west conn ended the drought, but there was a few yrs they didn't play, and i have a funny feeling it was bc albertus turned the tides on them. Albertus had 3 wins my fresh soph yr there, and begged guys from the baseball team, i was one, to play on the team just to look like they had bench players. insert Oliver and this program has done a 720, they were literally the bad news bears of d3 prior to oliver, look it up. Wopuld make for a freaking disney movie almost
Great discussions here. Most Albertus fans are very excited about this team for many reasons; mostly because it is a veteran group of guys who have now played two years together. The new addition, Sledge, provides real leadership on the court. He has been able to control the tempo and emotion of the team over the last few weeks. Albertus plays in a very weak conference and didn't have significant out of conference wins. SOS really hurts. However, I think this team is more talented than last year group and more experienced. I don't know if this means that they will go further in the tournament, however, they could surprise a lot of people.
I don't really care about the top 25; however, most voters haven't seen all 300 plus teams play. Therefore, it is mostly a vote of numbers. So, Albertus being ranked number 7 is highly impressive considering their SOS is really weak and they don't have any wins vs a top 35 team and only one against a top 50 team. This tells me that most voters think Albertus is a very talented team. Why else would they be top 10 with such poor "numbers"?
Most Albertus supporters know where the team struggles. I want to see them clean that stuff up before the conference tournaments begin.
Go Falcons! Dunk Haven!!!!
While I am absolutely a Falcons fan, I tend to be more on the conservative when it comes to the rankings/top 25/etc. Not that I don't believe in the team, but I can see where everyone comes from.
I think what Dave (and many others) are trying to say, and he can correct me if I'm wrong, is that he's not saying the Falcons can ONLY be the 11th or 12th best team in the country in the physical sense. Especially with this years madness I think he'd say that we have as good a shot as any to win the thing. He's simply saying, based on who we play that in his mind there's no reason to move them up. Why should wins against Norwich, the Riv, and Suffolk move us up? Again, I THINK no one is denying the talent - but from someone who doesn't see them every game like we do, wins against the GNAC do nothing for us. Anyone in the top 50 should beat the GNAC teams any given day. I think to some of us it's coming off as harsh because he's been critical of us in the past, both rankings wise and with his thoughts on Coach Oliver. Whereas, I tend to side with him more than others at least in terms of the top 25.
But I'll agree with PJ's statement that who gives a hoot about the top 25. We (Falcons fans) think this is our best shot since we've become relevant. Guess what, we're at the highest national ranking we've ever been so it IS being noticed, contrary to what people seem to think is happening.
As for the game, a scary game that in the past might have turned into one of those ugly losses Dave just spoke about. Lasell was on fire from 3, hitting 16 of 29 and hung around until the very end. The Falcons got down in the 2nd half but stayed composed, played their game, and ended up winning the game more comfortably than I thought they would. Vic was a monster with 28 and 14. Seemed like everytime we NEEDED a basket they got the ball down low to him, something we've NEVER done in the past. Good to see us finish a game strong without Tavon having a game to his standards. He only scored 9 points and was 0-3 from deep. Surprise of the game was absolutely Lex Perez. Love seeing the NVL get some burn on my Falcons. From what I saw at Crosby he can absolutely be the shooter Wiggins was and he showed it in this game. 4 for 5 from 3 and ending with 14 points. Second most minutes off the bench behind Walker. Hopefully this game gives him the confidence moving forward to be a big contributor off the bench.
Any word on Jennings? I coulda sworn I saw him out there but I was only checking every so often with the lo-def on my phone so they all look the same lol
Also, Anna Maria with a surprise loss to Norwich. JWU back in sole possession of 2nd place.
The GNAC games are starting to get crazy this time of year. The teams with sub 0.500 records that have nothing to lose are playing free and easy, making shots that they couldn't make in November, December, and January. Lasell 4 - 8, makes 16 threes shooting 55% behind the arc and almost upsets Albertus. Norwich, 4 - 9 , shoots 57% from the field and upsets Anna Maria by 4 points ( and just when I was jumping on the Amcats bandwagon too ) . Mt Ida 2 - 9, makes 19 of 21 free throws, and is beating Emmanuel for three fourths of the game until a late surge by the Saints bench saves them from an upset. Only JWU and St Joe held made it look easy against the sub 0.500 teams. It looks like the next two weeks are going to be fun. The top teams AMC, JWU, AM, and ST Joe fighting to maintain their positions and the sub 0.500 teams fighting to stay out of the basement.
Quote from: lildave678 on February 05, 2015, 09:12:01 AM
I think what Dave (and many others) are trying to say, and he can correct me if I'm wrong, is that he's not saying the Falcons can ONLY be the 11th or 12th best team in the country in the physical sense. Especially with this years madness I think he'd say that we have as good a shot as any to win the thing. He's simply saying, based on who we play that in his mind there's no reason to move them up. Why should wins against Norwich, the Riv, and Suffolk move us up? Again, I THINK no one is denying the talent - but from someone who doesn't see them every game like we do, wins against the GNAC do nothing for us. Anyone in the top 50 should beat the GNAC teams any given day. I think to some of us it's coming off as harsh because he's been critical of us in the past, both rankings wise and with his thoughts on Coach Oliver. Whereas, I tend to side with him more than others at least in terms of the top 25.
Yep... that's pretty much what I am saying. I am saying they are not going to move up the poll while continuing to win against teams like Norwich, Riveria, Suffolk, etc. Other teams jumping around them are playing better quality opponents in conference. Albertus Magnus is not the first team I have put a ceiling on in my time as a voter they just happen to the team I have mentioned so far. There are other teams I am not comfortable moving much higher this year and you will see that in their movement - or lack there of.
I am not being narrow minded about AMC... I am open minded to the fact that I am very aware of who they are playing right now and thus not going to artificially move them up the poll just because they are winning games they should be winning in an overall weak conference.
Had to laugh at the last post about the Albertus ranking. He was listing all the bad teams that Albertus has to play in the GNAC and he left out Emmanuel. How did that happen? I am offended !! Emmanuel has already lost to Rivier, Norwich, and Lasell and the season isn't over yet. Emmanuel is clearly one of the teams keeping Albertus from getting a higher ranking and should get their well deserved credit.
hahahahaha Saint, great stuff
An article from the Courant about the Falcons! Wonder if the writer knows us hosting is impossible, unless Mitch is planning/has planned to move it somewhere else in New Haven.
http://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-albertus-magnus-men-basketball-0205-20150205-story.html (http://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-albertus-magnus-men-basketball-0205-20150205-story.html)
Quote from: lildave678 on February 06, 2015, 10:35:49 AM
An article from the Courant about the Falcons! Wonder if the writer knows us hosting is impossible, unless Mitch is planning/has planned to move it somewhere else in New Haven.
http://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-albertus-magnus-men-basketball-0205-20150205-story.html (http://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-albertus-magnus-men-basketball-0205-20150205-story.html)
Yale maybe?? Up Dixwell Avenue at the TD Sports Complex at Quinnipiac??
I happened to go back to the Hoopsville Marathon today and caught the segment with Mitch - he said they put in a bid because with the portable bleachers they do reach minimum capacity. As he said, will they get chosen remains to be seen.
Well... he said that those they have talked to said go ahead and put in the bid and that the bleachers add to their number. Now he also disagreed that 600 is what it normally seats; wasn't sure where that number comes from. If it is 600 and they add bleachers... do they really add 400 more seats? That is going to be the question.
What I could see happening - and Pat and I debated last year it happening - is AMC gets a first-round bye and hosts the second round game. I am just not sure how the NCAA will tackle small arenas with the first weekend. The committee chair has even stated on the show that as an administrator he wants to make sure a place can actually host an entire weekend and have very little problems then just give anyone the chance to host (in other words, they want to think it through and make smart decisions - not throw a school a hosting opportunity they aren't able to accomplish).
Certainly should AMC be in a position to host, it would be a shame if their facility is what holds them back. However, I have seen it happen in the past - there is precedent.
The facility would be rocking but parking would be a disaster if it was a full pod, you're right. Other Falcon fans will agree lol
Final Score JWU 79 - Emmanuel 61
Well this game followed the same old script. Every time the Saints play against an above 0.500 team they try to run with them and end up getting blown out early in the game. This game was no exception, being competitive for only the first 7 minutes of the game. It was a 20 point lead for JWU the rest of the way. Saints took quick shots early in the shot clock, and rarely ran any offensive sets all the way through. JWU showed a smart game plan by double teaming the Saints big man as soon as he caught the ball on the low post. This forced the other four players to make basketball decisions and ended up in a lot of missed shots and turnovers. Saints shot 32% from the field, 17% from the arc, and committed 19 turnovers. Greenaway was again very smooth, scoring 26 points and hardly breaking a sweat. He appeared to just glide past the Saints defenders like they were standing still. He out rebounded a lot of the big man on the floor. All around nice game for Greenaway. Saints used another new starting line up, number 15 in 19 games this year. The players must get very frustrated getting jerked in and out of the lineup like that each week. Loss 105 for the Saints and still counting.
Looking ahead to Saturday a little here but what do my fellow Falcon fans think about Coach Oliver not necessarily starting but bringing junior Marc Wilson off the bench frequently to guard Quarry Greenaway who by all accounts has been on an absolute tear as of late. There is something about Marc that I really like, especially on the defensive end. I know he struggles from time to time to stay mentally into the game and I'll be the first to admit that he almost looks lost on the offensive end from game to game but as an all around defender I don't think there are many players in the league who can match Greenaway's size and athleticism at all areas of the court like maybe Marc can. Has anyone ever took note of his wing span? He has freakishly long arms for a player who is 6'2 and he is more than athletic enough to go step for step with Greenaway off the dribble. I don't know I just like the matchup there and I like the kid. I don't believe I have seen Coach Oliver in his time at Albertus ride a player as much as he does Marc Wilson but I also think its a case where he does this because Marc doesn't believe and know how good he actually is.
I would let Eian and Sledge go all day and pressure there guards. I know Greenaway is a "guard" but he isn't a guy they use to start their offense at the top of the key. The plays run to him off the ball meaning he gets his touches but mostly on passes where he kick starts their offense by either taking a perimeter shot or dribble drive and kick. Eian and Sledge can be absolute pests to do deal with for the entire game if we can get to their ball handling guards who work the ball to Greenaway.
What a nice Valentines Day this will be for these two teams!! They certainly wont be handing each other flowers and chocolates as they go through the handshake line around 5PM Saturday night!! This is going to be a battle!! It always is at JWU!!
And for the record I hate to look past games like tomorrow night against Mount Ida......but yaaaaaaaaaa
I think I'm going to be watching JWU at Anna Maria more than Albertus at Mount Ida tomorrow night
I have no problem with the move. I'm not all that familiar with Wilson as I tend to not watch full games - I check in 4 or 5 times throughout the broadcast usually so the chances of me seeing him aren't very good. If you think that would help I'm sure Mitch is bouncing it around. But if he thinks we need are best offensive game then chances are he doesn't see the court much because as you say, he's not as good at that end. Greenway only had 14 in that first game. Lewis had 25 and Garrick had 19 so it's not like he went Lamonte Thomas/DaQuan Brooks on us but yes, he is clearly their best player so it's something to consider.
I think when push comes to shove, Mitch will challenge one of the regular rotation guys to put the clamps down instead of going with someone like Wilson.
LilDave,
Couldn't agree more with your last statement. I was just throwing it out there to generate some discussion.
Not a bad idea junkie. From what I remember, Sledge was on greenway the majority of the game from what I remember, and gave him fits
Greenway was also in foul trouble and fouled out. I was very surprised how easily JWU Got the ball in the paint the first time they met. Greenway had an off game but JWU played excellent on offense as a team in my opinion.
Albertus wins by 36. Perhaps D3 or PJ can confirm but I'm fairly certain Jennings was kicked off the team. For what and if it's indefinitely I'm unsure.
Obviously Sanders has stepped into the starting lineup. What we lose in pure shooting (and Julian is no slouch) we gain in length and the ability to attack the basket. Granted it's Mt Ida but Julian was very aggressive going to the hoop. Between him, Walters (who had 15 rebounds tonight!) and Lex Perez the void can be filled albeit in a little different manner with each guy.
Also, kudos to the Mt. Ida broadcast. The guy calling the game wasn't super innovative or anything, but a solid play-by-play guy. I couldn't focus my sole attention to my computer screen but I was able to turn the volume up and listen to him while doing some stuff around the house. Still was able to get a good feel for the game through him.
Albertus is not the #6 team in the country without Jennings. Point blank. He has the experience and ice cold veins that can't be replaced. Really sad if he's gone from the team. I heard 2 week suspension, I hope I'm right. Where did you hear for good?
Social media investigation haha but all it said was he was kicked off the team, no timetable. Think I'd tend to side with your information because while it takes our athletic department ages to put up an updated roster, they're usually fairly quick to remove someone and James is still on the roster. Can anyone confirm if he's been on the bench still? If it was a 2 weeker aren't we approaching the end of that?
In other GNAC news, JWU waxed Anna Maria by 31. While we all knew JWU was the #2 team behind the Falcons, this further cements it. Anna Maria is always a tough out but it's clear JWU is our most formidable opponent.
Emmanuel picks up the win vs Norwich!
Watched the video replay of the JWU / AM game. Wow, JWU looked like they were on a mission to make sure that there would not be any more GNAC upsets. Eight minutes into the game it was already 29 to 7. AM did not play poorly, the JWU defense was just extremely tight. AM could not get any open looks, every jump shot, every lay up, was contested. AM could not get any stops at the defensive end of the court. JWU was just so quick that even when they missed a shot someone else followed it up with an offensive rebound. Greenaway, Garrick, and Lewis all had big games for JWU. JWU did not score all their points in transition, their half court offense was also working. They used good outside shooting and quick dribble penetration and sharp passing to beat the AM match up zone.
Should be a great game on Saturday with AMC. I think that both teams will play man, but you never know. If you wanted to slow down an athletic, running team, a good match zone would be the way to go, but that is not the style of either of these two teams. Another thing to watch for is if JWU plans to double team Victor on the low post? Whose man will they double with? Will they double as soon as he catches, or wait until the first dribble hits the floor? All good things to watch for. Will AMC pick up full court forcing an uptempo game, and allowing JWU to get to the rim or will they fall back into a tight half court man to man, switching on the JWU screens to eliminate dribble penetration ? What will JWU do if AMC doubles Greenaway on the perimeter and forces the ball out of his hands? I think that AMC will try to make Greenaway a non factor by forcing him to give up the ball as soon as he catches. Should be a great game, good luck to both teams.
Regional Rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2015/02/11/first-regional-rankings-released-today/ (http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2015/02/11/first-regional-rankings-released-today/)
Ferraro13 respectfully I think you're really far off on your assessment of the team without James Jennings. They are without doubt still worthy of their Top 10 ranking and they are still even without him a Top 10 team in my mind. He was very streaky all year from 3 and Julian and freshmen Lex Perez and Chaunce Dunbar are more then capable of stepping in and filling the void from deep. Let's face it, Jennings was strictly a 3 point shooter......way more then half his FG were all 3's. Granted they will miss him defensively....I will give you that because for a guy as small as he was he had a swagger about him on defense. Overall though in my opinion the team is just as good without him as they were with him.
I think all the evidence we need is in the results, since he's been gone they haven't skipped a beat, still averaging over 90 points a game and they have without a doubt been playing better defense the last few weeks. Let's not forget Julian Sanders is an extremely polished player, he is a senior and his physical attributes favor him as a player over Jennings. Julian's size and his uncanny ability to get to the rim with dribble penetration will provide this team with a different look then what they had with Jennings. That's not a knock on Jennings, he's a fine player for sure but it's just the way I see things.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 11, 2015, 04:22:48 PM
Ferraro13 respectfully I think you're really far off on your assessment of the team without James Jennings. They are without doubt still worthy of their Top 10 ranking and they are still even without him a Top 10 team in my mind. He was very streaky all year from 3 and Julian and freshmen Lex Perez and Chaunce Dunbar are more then capable of stepping in and filling the void from deep. Let's face it, Jennings was strictly a 3 point shooter......way more then half his FG were all 3's. Granted they will miss him defensively....I will give you that because for a guy as small as he was he had a swagger about him on defense. Overall though in my opinion the team is just as good without him as they were with him.
I think all the evidence we need is in the results, since he's been gone they haven't skipped a beat, still averaging over 90 points a game and they have without a doubt been playing better defense the last few weeks. Let's not forget Julian Sanders is an extremely polished player, he is a senior and is a better all player then Jennings because of his size and his uncanny ability to get to the rim with dribble penetration. That's not a knock on Jennings it's just the way I see things.
I respectfully agree haha. Best case scenario is he DOES come back, and Perez/Walters/Dunbar build off the experience they gained while James wasn't playing.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 11, 2015, 04:22:48 PM
Ferraro13 respectfully I think you're really far off on your assessment of the team without James Jennings. They are without doubt still worthy of their Top 10 ranking and they are still even without him a Top 10 team in my mind. He was very streaky all year from 3 and Julian and freshmen Lex Perez and Chaunce Dunbar are more then capable of stepping in and filling the void from deep. Let's face it, Jennings was strictly a 3 point shooter......way more then half his FG were all 3's. Granted they will miss him defensively....I will give you that because for a guy as small as he was he had a swagger about him on defense. Overall though in my opinion the team is just as good without him as they were with him.
I think all the evidence we need is in the results, since he's been gone they haven't skipped a beat, still averaging over 90 points a game and they have without a doubt been playing better defense the last few weeks. Let's not forget Julian Sanders is an extremely polished player, he is a senior and his physical attributes favor him as a player over Jennings. Julian's size and his uncanny ability to get to the rim with dribble penetration will provide this team with a different look then what they had with Jennings. That's not a knock on Jennings, he's a fine player for sure but it's just the way I see things.
In all due respect junkie I disagree with you. Jennings is wayyyyy more then just a 3 point shooter. He's been a starter his fresh yr for a reason. He knows the offense, he can run, he stretches the court, he fits in well with this offense. He is a key factor of this team
Ferraro13. Indeed Jennings can do all those things. I am not disputing that. I also understand that he was a starter since his freshman season. But everything that you listed above you can say the same for Julian Sanders (with the exception of starting) He isnt a player that because of the loss the team will be worse off. We arent going to look back at the end of this awesome season whenever it may end and say if we had Jennings in that game the outcome might have been different. If it was a guy like Eian or Sledge or Vic then we would have a problem, even Lemar would be a bigger issue but shooters are a dime a dozen on this team. We have plenty and if you look at the stats the 3 point shot was really Jennings only role. His 3PT% is right at 39% and he has an even lower percentage from inside the arc. Coach Oliver can get 40% from Julian everynight as his minutes progress.
And again I'm not saying that the team is better off without Jennings. No way in hell do I think that!!! Please dont misunderstand me. But I feel his role in this offense is replacable with what this team has on the bench.
I don't know Dave, they didn't add Carter to the roster yet... So who knows... I hope Jennings is still available. I just think he adds depth to the guard position and experience. In March, Albertus will be playing very strong opponents who are experienced and well coached. I think Oliver will have a shorter bench; and I would rather see Jennings in the rotation than Wilson at this point. I like Perez, but he is still very young. I think Julian has played great and is a senior and really wants this. However, I like Jennings guts. He plays much bigger than he is and isn't afraid to take a big shot. I think with Albertus losing Wiggins, they need Jennings.
Quote from: falcons2010 on February 11, 2015, 09:37:39 PM
I don't know Dave, they didn't add Carter to the roster yet... So who knows... I hope Jennings is still available. I just think he adds depth to the guard position and experience. In March, Albertus will be playing very strong opponents who are experienced and well coached. I think Oliver will have a shorter bench; and I would rather see Jennings in the rotation than Wilson at this point. I like Perez, but he is still very young. I think Julian has played great and is a senior and really wants this. However, I like Jennings guts. He plays much bigger than he is and isn't afraid to take a big shot. I think with Albertus losing Wiggins, they need Jennings.
Hammered home all the points i was just about too. Lets hope I'm wrong and we work out better without him if he is gone. My hope is that he is coming back, a real shame if this is how his career ended
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 11, 2015, 08:11:41 PM
And again I'm not saying that the team is better off without Jennings. No way in hell do I think that!!! Please dont misunderstand me. But I feel his role in this offense is replacable with what this team has on the bench.
Right, no team is better off without one of it's starters, let alone a 3 year starter. We're certainly not saying its addition by subtraction. We just think it's not AS big a loss as you two do. 2-2, PJ get in here and break this tie ;D
Hey dave, I don't know how to say this but I am PJ. Had to create a new account because I forgot my password and had major issues. My home computer had my pj account saved. But, now it isn't working. So, I am falcons2010 for good. Sucks that I can't give props.
I did read that somewhere haha but PJ popped up again (in the NEWMAC thread specifically) so it slipped my mind!
Final Score Anna Maria 85 - Emmanuel 84
For the first time all year the Saints had a chance to beat a good team with an above 0.500 record and they could not get the job done. Emmanuel only has 8 wins this year and none of those are against any teams with 0.500 records. The Saints took a 1 point lead with 35 seconds to play when their big man made one of two free throws. All the Saints had to do was get one more stop and get out of there with a big upset win. Instead, they gave up a dribble penetration to a back up guard and then allowed him to pull up in the lane for a short jumper that was the game winner. The Saints had an inbounds play under their own basket with 6 seconds remaining but were unable to execute and could not even get off a good shot attempt. A very disappointing loss for the Saints who have not had any other opportunities to beat a good team this year.
The Saints big man kept them in the game early and often, with 20 points, 11 rebounds, and 3 blocks. The Saints gave up 23 points off 21 turnovers because they just don't take care of the basketball. Emmanuel's wild, chaotic, style of play is very hard to describe in a blog without seeing it in person. As soon as they get possession of the ball they race down court as fast as possible and make a wild drive at the basket or pull up behind the arc and let a 3 ball fly. They never show any poise or patience and never practice any basketball discipline. It is getting harder and harder to watch. The Saints had 21 turnovers but only 10 assists.
Anna Maria was behind the whole game but never panicked. They were patient running their offense, looked for open teammates, and got the ball to their shooters, who knocked down 14 three balls. Bradanese and Delorey each had 28 points, and that sharp little point guard # 12 had 9 assists.
Since nobody else is writing for the Amcats, I am going to adopt them for the GNAC playoffs. I like their style of play, especially they way their shooters come up with big shot after big shot to keep them in games. The are not the biggest, quickest, or most athletic team in the GNAC but they play unselfish basketball, run their sets very well, and give a competitive effort every night out.
Obviously the game is going to get played but any word on a potential game time move up? Saw on the NESCAC board one start time was moved to 2.
Havent seen or heard anything yet LilDave but if I do I will hop on and post ASAP......I have a feeling it might
Figured they would just to be safe, nothing from the AMC social media yet.
Quote from: lildave678 on February 13, 2015, 12:14:11 PM
Figured they would just to be safe, nothing from the AMC social media yet.
Junkie & Dave: the LEC games are still scheduled for 1 PM & 3 PM for tomorrow, and there's games taking place @ RI College (Providence), UMass-Dartmouth (Dartmouth, MA) and Keene State (Keene, NH) where there's supposed to be 6-12 inches of snow starting tomorrow morning. However looking at the LEC website, I saw the track & field championships, also in Providence have been moved up from 1 PM to 11 AM. If I see any info for the games in the Providence area (Dartmouth is only like 20 miles east of Providence) I'll let you guys know.
Thanks 7
JWU 20-19. Albertus struggling from the perimeter. Totally different team without Jennings, just like I thought. Really is a shame. Top 25 team, not 10 without Jennings
Lead by 9 at half time, just a slow start it seems. The feed down for anyone else? Perhaps because it's half time?
Also, this particular team isn't without Jennings. It's without Jennings AND Sanders it seems.
Make me eat my words! It's down for everyone Dave
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 14, 2015, 04:15:42 PM
Make me eat my words! It's down for everyone Dave
Yeah, sort of frustrating. Looks to be a very good game. Now tied with three minutes to go.
YOOOO What happened???
Stupid feed being down. According to the play-by-play the Falcons were down 2, Larsen got fouled and drilled both free throws. JWU inbounded the ball and Sledge stole it from Greenway and got the layup as time expired??
Why did Julian not play??
Hey Dave,
Julian got hurt, will miss about a week. Not sure what happened, but it was mention in the broadcast prior to me losing video feed. By the way, how does the GNAC allow that to happen? Someone from IT should have been working on this issue.
Lost my feed as well guys!!! It sucked!!!! But the Falcons won by 2. LilDave thats what my play by play said as well so he musta came up from behind Greenaway, got the steal and layed it up as time expired. Unbelievable! He's the kind of player that you could ride in a big tournament all the way to the finish line!
Julian did NOT play, while my feed was working in the beginning I saw him underneath the basket during lay up lines with a boot on his foot. Then it hit me last game he came out early from an injury that was to his ankle. My guess is there keeping him in the boot for precautionary reasons and giving him as much time as they can before the playoff run!
Falcon2010, I think the issue was on Johnson and Wales. The GNAC provides the ezstream link but i'm thinking it had to be something on JWU's end of it. What blows my mind is that it apppears they did nothing to try and fix the situation. Best game of the year for the entire confernece and it gets messed up!!! I doubt we'll even be able to watch the replay
Well k think it's official that Jennings is off the team. What an unbelievable ending
Side note. Although Sledge and Vic get all the hoopla this yr, Eian Davis is what makes this team go. From his play to his leadership. He just has Incredible court generalship
We can all look at the game in a negative in such that we blew a 20 point lead and we're without a starter...But in this game we were without his replacement AND we were on the road. Losing a 20 point lead has no excuse but I think this game will obviously be the closest thing this team has to an NCAA tournament game.
If they see JWU at home, with Julian in the GNAC finals I don't think it's as close. I think (read as; I hope) if we see them again it will be more of a result we're used to with the other GNAC teams lol
Junkie, i am sure this issue was with JWU. However, when you are in a conference which has no regional respect. You need to make sure that issue gets fixed. No excuse. The little east, newmac, and nescac would have all had it fix during a game of this magnitude.
A few things about the game.
1. Albertus won a game in the 70s, showing a lot of calm in the final minute.
2. Albertus wins with no outside threat and jwu really dominating thr boards.
3. Albertus hits clutch free throws, area they struggled in the past
4. Davis is playing under control, shooting the ball better and understanding when to push and when to pull ball out.
Things of concern
1. Juilian injury. Albertus need a consistent shooter
2. Vic and larsen need to be in court, cant get in foul trouble
3. Can't blow 20 point lead in post season. I know college basketball is all about teams making a run, however, need to stop that run with a few solid offensive possesions and/or grabbing a few offensive rebounds
If Albertus wins out to title game and loses to JWU, they aren't losing to any other team at home, do they get an automatic bid? Be a shame if not
Final Score St Joe 70 - Emmanuel 47
Saints looked non competitive again against a good team, only scoring 12 points in the first half. At the 17 minute mark of the game the score was 30 - 8 . The game was essentially over at that point and the rest was just played for the final numbers. Emmanuel shot 4% from behind the 3 point arc, going 1 - 24 . If you don't recruit anyone who is a capable shooter why do you give them the green light to launch threes? Emmanuel brought in two JUCO transfers this year to play the low post positions, but then they get ignored and the guards rush down court to launch threes. I just don't understand that game plan. Only 6 assists for 21 field goals so they were not running any kind of offense again. Simonds had a nice game again, 26 points, for St Joe. St Joe shot 57% from the field with 13 assists so they were doing what they do best, moving the ball.
Not sure if Tuesday's game with Albertus will get played or postponed. I am sure the Saints hope it will get canceled. It most likely will not have any effect on the playoffs, but a make up date is probably going to get scheduled anyway. Would really like to see what the Albertus scouting report says about the Saints. What starting lineup do you prepare for ? Do you prepare 16 different scouting reports depending on who the Emmanuel coach feels like starting that particular day? What plays do you prepare to defend? Do you chase 3 point shooters off the arc or let them take any 3 point shot they want ? If they are going to shoot 4% why guard them at all? Do you try and control game tempo or just let the opponents do that for you ? If travel conditions are too difficult just mail in the score !
Ferraro, no they would not get an automatic bid. The only way to get an automatic bid is to win your conference tournament.
Where that to happen, they most likely would not get an at-large bid either. Unless they rise significantly in the next regional rankings, it would be hard for them to get an at-large. They aren't getting in with your scenario because there's no way the region gets 11 teams into the tournament and right now Albertus sits at 11 in the Northeast.
AMC is tenth... and considering how many teams ahead of them will probably take Pool A bids, AMC will at least get to the table for consideration. However, Staten Island is an example last year of a team that lost it's second game of the season in the conference championship game that had a poor SOS and stayed at the table for at-large consideration... the entire 19 rounds. Certainly a cautionary note for AMC fans.
My apologies, 10th, not 11th.
Dave, you probably know more about it than I do. If I'm not mistaken, you can only earn a Pool A bid if you win your conference, correct? If that's the case, then there'd still be (as it stands now) 6 teams ranked ahead of them in the region. The way the process has been explained to me, I find it hard to believe that, in a relatively down year for the NESCAC, the Northeast region will get 10 teams in.
Hopefully, because a lot of the other top teams share conferences and thus games against one another, Albertus will be able to move up a few spots when it's all said and done.
Yes... win your conference and earn the AQ (for all conferences this season - no Pool B bids this season). And while that does leave six teams ahead of AMC in this past week's regional rankings, consider the fact that teams ahead of them have already lost since those rankings (Bates, Amherst, Rhode Island, and Springfield) AND if those teams haven't won their AQs that means they have lost at least one more game between now and the end of the season - including other teams ahead of them in the rankings.
While AMC's SOS is poor (roughly a .475 right now), at least AMC will climb the rankings based on the fact they are still winning. The problem AMC has, though, is that SOS and the fact they are 0-1 in vRRO from now on and that won't improve.
Do I think AMC gets an at-large bid if they lose in the tournament? Iffy at best. That is what I indicated when referencing Staten Island from last year. However, I do think they will move up and at least give themselves a chance to get to the table to be discussed which is better than never getting to the table in the first place.
That all being said... I think they need to win the AQ to avoid being on a very precarious bubble... and expect to be on the road in the tournament.
Hey, at least we can say we're used to having to win the conference tournament to ensure a spot in the big dance. Nothing to see here haha...
F13, any chance Jennings returns next season or is this a permanent thing?
Couple comments about F2010's post - First, I think 1 and 2 of the negative kind of go together. We need Vic and Lemar to stay on the court BECAUSE we don't have James (or Julian currently) to stretch the D by just standing there in a dangerous position. With the bigs on the court, they attract a lot of attention and can open the floor that way. Second, you are absolutely right about the 20 point lead. Teams absolutely will make their run, but it wasn't like this was an 8 point game where they made the run. A 20 point lead should not become a tie game if you're an elite team. Since the feed went down I was doing other things while keeping tabs on the live stats. It seemed like Albertus could never get that bucket or two just to stem the tide even just a little. I saw it creep from 20, to 15, to 13, to 11, etc etc. I was waiting for it to pop back up to 15, 17 and it never did. But as you said, GREAT on them to keep their composure and get the job done. Huge props to Lemar for hitting the two free throws on the road. And while I have no idea what happened because of the feed, that possesion shows what a true team this is - Larsen taking that shot. I'm sure JWU keyed in on Vic and Tavon and someone had the confidence to get it to Lemar. As the ball is coming up the floor he's probably our 4th offensive option? An excellent thing if you ask me.
A nice 3 game week for the Falcons to close the regular season out. They should take care of all 3, especially with the way Anna Maria has come back to earth the past couple of games (getting pumped by JWU, losing to Lasell). But obviously that closing game against the AMCats will be their championship game especially on senior day. If Julian is that hurt, obviously sit him for the first 2 against Emmanuel and Mt. Ida and go from there.
Game Report on Lasell 69 / Anna Maria 60
Watched the video reply of the Lasell / Anna Maria game because I wanted to see how Lasell beat the Amcats. The Amcats were very patient, running their sets and getting good shots, not forcing anything. They were mixing up their offense, scoring inside and then stepping out to make some shots. Bradanese and Franklin each had 20 points, Delorey had a sub par game only making 2 shots, but the point guard had another good game with 8 assists. Overall the Amcats had 14 assists on 25 field goals so they were still playing unselfish basketball.
The problem came on the defensive end of the court. The Amcats did not play aggressive defense until it was too late. Lasell was also very patient on offense, spreading the floor against the Amcats zone, moving the ball until they found an open 3 point shooter. The Amcat defenders did not close out on the Lasell shooters hard enough and most of the Lasell shooters had time to measure their shots. The difference in the game was Lasell making 15 three point shots. That accounted for 45 of the 69 points. Making shots early in the game gave Lasell confidence they could hang with the Amcats and that certainly proved to be true. Anna Maria was down 26 to 12 after the first 7 minutes of the game and then pick up the intensity of their defense holding Lasell to just 4 points the rest of the first half, but the damage was already done. Lasell came out in the second half confident that their shots would fall and that is exactly what happened. I hope the Amcats learn a lesson from this game and bring their defensive intensity onto the floor at the start of every game.
Lasell has recently hit 16 3 pointers against Albertus, 12 against Mt. Ida, 14 against Rivier, and now 15 against Anna Maria (though they only hit 5 against Amherst). Obviously come tourney time if Albertus were to play them it would be at Albertus and I'd expect the Falcons to be tuned in defensively, but the rate at which they hit 3 pointers is scary. The good thing is even though they hit 16 against us they still lost by 10 :)
Another factor in Lasell's game vs Anna Maria was the return of Pat Marchand. He missed 8 games with an injury. He is Lasell's only big man leading the team in scoring (15.2) and rebounding (9.6) Part of the 3 pt story is freshman Scott Arsenault. He has only recently begun to play significant minutes but it is an understatement to say he is a three point specialist. 97 of his 120 shots have been three point attempts and he has hit 42.3 % of them. If they can establish some rhythm and consistency in the final couple of weeks they may be a tough out in the conference tournament.
Dave, indefinite suspension. That's what I was told. So a possibility of a return.
Is that a typo that Albertus got 2 1st place votes? Lol and went down a spot!
They did get two first place votes... gained a couple of points... but because of the chaos in the rest of the poll (like UWSP jumping), they fell a spot. Which goes to prove: looking at just how a team is ranked and changing of those rankings doesn't tell the whole story. Points and how everyone else in the poll moves (while gaining and losing points) is also key.
No I understand that part, just in a vacuum it's crazy to think we get our first first place votes and we move down! Lol
Always dangerous to be in a vacuum! LOL
Quote from: lildave678 on February 16, 2015, 09:04:20 PM
No I understand that part, just in a vacuum it's crazy to think we get our first first place votes and we move down! Lol
Perhaps the breadth of conversation about the loss of players on this board made a difference to some of the voters. The coaches play it off, but lots of them read these things religiously.
Dave (Mchugh), I have to ask!!! And I hate talking in retrospect but if Albertus had beaten Richard Stockton in the beginning of the season which would have made them undefeated at this point, where would you have them ranked in your Top 25 this week??
Kind of similar to the Marietta situation no?? A sub par SOS but if they had beaten Mount Union and John Carroll this week they would have most certainly been #1 overall. I think the same could be said for Albertus IF they had been undefeated at this point.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 16, 2015, 11:17:42 PM
Dave (Mchugh), I have to ask!!! And I hate talking in retrospect but if Albertus had beaten Richard Stockton in the beginning of the season which would have made them undefeated at this point, where would you have them ranked in your Top 25 this week??
Kind of similar to the Marietta situation no?? A sub par SOS but if they had beaten Mount Union and John Carroll this week they would have most certainly been #1 overall. I think the same could be said for Albertus IF they had been undefeated at this point.
First off, Marietta's SOS is above .500 (.512) where as AMC's is .475 - that's a bigger spread than the two-games to .030 comparison, so not exactly apples to apples.
As for beating Richard Stockton... I would probably have them on the lower half of my Top 10... but that would have also added a loss to a Stockton team I think is overrated with an gaudy SOS (.581 and falling). Sure, undefeated... but put it this way: if Marietta had survived the week with everyone else losing... it isn't cut and dry I would have given them my number one vote. And look at St. Norbert who I have stated I think is hit their ceiling (maybe above it) (SOS - .498) - but MWC is a better conference than the GNAC and SNC has won 41 straight in conference.
Thanks Dave, just wanted your take!
I think I confused Marietta's SOS numbers when I looked them up with another school in their region. That's on me.
In terms of them being #1 if they hadn't lost those 2 games this past week I was referring to the entire D3 poll not just where you would have them but again I should have specified.
They would have been #1 overall in the grand scheme of the poll this week if they hadn't lost....No?
I was referring to #1 in the D3hoops poll... not sure if they would have been. I suspect they probably could have garnered the most amount of votes considering they would have been the last undefeated team... but I don't think they would have gotten all 25. Like I said... I don't know if I would have voted for them.
That being said, they would have beaten Mount Union and John Carroll showing they are just that good beating those teams twice this season. That may have swayed me to give them my number one vote.
Interesting take Dave, Thanks
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 17, 2015, 12:08:26 AM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 16, 2015, 11:17:42 PM
Dave (Mchugh), I have to ask!!! And I hate talking in retrospect but if Albertus had beaten Richard Stockton in the beginning of the season which would have made them undefeated at this point, where would you have them ranked in your Top 25 this week??
Kind of similar to the Marietta situation no?? A sub par SOS but if they had beaten Mount Union and John Carroll this week they would have most certainly been #1 overall. I think the same could be said for Albertus IF they had been undefeated at this point.
First off, Marietta's SOS is above .500 (.512) where as AMC's is .475 - that's a bigger spread than the two-games to .030 comparison, so not exactly apples to apples.
As for beating Richard Stockton... I would probably have them on the lower half of my Top 10... but that would have also added a loss to a Stockton team I think is overrated with an gaudy SOS (.581 and falling). Sure, undefeated... but put it this way: if Marietta had survived the week with everyone else losing... it isn't cut and dry I would have given them my number one vote. And look at St. Norbert who I have stated I think is hit their ceiling (maybe above it) (SOS - .498) - but MWC is a better conference than the GNAC and SNC has won 41 straight in conference.
Different team when albertus played them. They've lost players since. So not sure overrated is the correct term
Richard Stockton that is
I am aware of who Stockton was and is... I have seen them in person and they did lost their point guard... but I wasn't sold on them before they lost their PG... but to be honest, we are talking about one game against one team on the entire schedule... that says something.
Says that we only have one loss, correct
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 17, 2015, 12:23:16 PM
I am aware of who Stockton was and is... I have seen them in person and they did lost their point guard... but I wasn't sold on them before they lost their PG... but to be honest, we are talking about one game against one team on the entire schedule... that says something.
I think Stockton was playing their best when they beat Albertus. Stockton has actually gotten worse since their new players have acclimated to the team. I suspect they've got a lot more egos to manage than they did the first weekend (when almost everyone was new).
That being said, Albertus was obviously a better team even then. It's all about consistency and without a schedule to prove it, they're going to be doubted.
Dave McHugh will be happy to know Albertus trails Emmanuel by 10 with 7 to play. I know he enjoys watching Albertus struggle. This team isn't the same without Jennings, let alone Jennings and Sanders
Somehow Albertus ties it at buzzer after being down 3 with 3 seconds left and all under their own basket. Also down 10 with 2 - 3 mins left. OT
Albertus apparently hit a three at the buzzer to force overtime - but we didn't get to see it since the camera guy didn't pan down court.
Terrible hoops. Terrible camera work.
why didn't they foul to prevent a 3-pter?
Couldn't see bc the camera, but looked like it was same play they drew up against JWU that won them the game on a 3 at buzzer. Length of the court pass, wide open trailer for three. If that was the play, and if they ran it as good as they did JWU, they wouldn't of had a chance to foul. At least they ran it that good then. Tonight not sure bc camera man
*length of court pass, center catches with back to basket, and passes to wide open trailer
99-89 Albertus, 17 seconds left. Eian Davis, 37 pts, 10 boards, 10 assists
Pretty evident that this team isn't the same without Jennings or Sanders
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 17, 2015, 09:13:57 PM
*length of court pass, center catches with back to basket, and passes to wide open trailer
Sounds like the Evansville(Coach Drew) buzzer-beater in the NCAA 15? years ago.
The great teams find ways to win these type of games!! It was a grinder but a win none the less. Every team goes through a game or 2 like this every season. Its how you respond to these games that show your true character and the Falcons responded in clutch time magnificently.
Ferraro13, Obviously this team isnt the same without Jennings and Julian but Julian will be back for the run and Chaunce Dunbar performed beautifully tonight hitting some very clutch shots.
What a line for Eian Davis. Triple Double with 37 points 10 rebounds and 10 assists.
Also had 8 TO's but still a tremendous game
Quote from: ronk on February 17, 2015, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 17, 2015, 09:13:57 PM
*length of court pass, center catches with back to basket, and passes to wide open trailer
Sounds like the Evansville(Coach Drew) buzzer-beater in the NCAA 15? years ago.
Bryce Drew play all day lol
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 17, 2015, 09:30:26 PM
The great teams find ways to win these type of games!! It was a grinder but a win none the less. Every team goes through a game or 2 like this every season. Its how you respond to these games that show your true character and the Falcons responded in clutch time magnificently.
Ferraro13, Obviously this team isnt the same without Jennings and Julian but Julian will be back for the run and Chaunce Dunbar performed beautifully tonight hitting some very clutch shots.
Dunbar sure did! Don't mind me junkie, just worried a little!
As am I Ferraro.....Believe me I am. I wont be celebrating anything till we punch our OWN ticket to the madness.
Only caught the last 5 minutes of the 1st half and Vic was nowhere to be seen. Did he have foul trouble in the first half/whole game? I know Saint Paul always talks about Emmanuel's big going to work but did he do that much of a number on Vic?
And while we can keep pointing to us missing players and whatnot, to me this seems brutal on the defensive end and that's just lack of focus and hustle. If we only scored 60, 70 points I could absolutely see where missing James and Julian hurt us. But I don't care who we have on the floor...allowing Emmanuel to score 86 points before the OT period is unacceptable. Seems like they got the message in OT holding them to 3 points over the 5 minutes but come tourny time that'll be too little too late.
Davis and Sledge both played all 45. I was hoping these last couple of games they'd be able to take a load off! Guess not!
At least one camera man got the shot
http://sportzedge.com/2015/02/17/tavon-sledge-hits-clutch-three-at-buzzer-albertus-magnus-completes-crazy-comeback-to-beat-emmanuel-in-ot/
Jennings and sanders being missing is still a big worry on the offensive side. Don't care if we scored 99, it's a different Offemse without them. And when guys like Vic have an off night, last night, we struggle
69 points with 4 mins left in regulation says a lot. Against Emmanuel. Hopefully they learn from it
Crazy, exact same play except to the left side of the hoop instead of the right.
Exactly Dave
Thanks for the link Ferraro!! As usual WTNH SportzEdge is one of the few news outlets who actually covers and seems to respect not just what Albertus is doing but all the small colleges and High Schools are doing in this part of the state. Hats off to them!
Guys I have to talk about this now after watching that video. Do the other Coaches in the GNAC even watch film of us play? How is this play not scouted by opposing coaches? I mean honestly not only this play but a number of our inbound plays under our own basket as well. Time after time play after play we continue to get open or easy looks at great opportunities. Albertus runs a couple really nice inbounds plays and we score virtually every single time. There not rocket science plays either, basic screen the screener, bubble screen plays and yet over and over again we convert. Believe me gentleman I am not complaining but how is it possible??? I know Coach Oliver is an absolute film junkie and studies and prepares for his opponents just about as much as any coach in D3 and that's not an understatement.
What are these guys doing in practice????? I don't know why but it just kills me because there have been many handshake lines over the last few season where the opposing coach is visibly upset with the score differential. I know in the past one coach even said we ran the score up and kept guys in the game that maybe we shouldn't have. WE ARE AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL HERE!!! There is no such thing as running it up. Herm Edwards (and I hate the Jets and Herm) said it best, "You play to win the game" Period.
Prepare your team to play and this won't happen to you.
As stated before by the other posters it was the same exact play we ran against JWU!!! It was on Facebook and Twitter for God Sakes, Emmanuel must have seen it!!
In the past six seasons the Saints have suffered a lot of heart breaking losses, but none worse than last nights loss to Albertus. The opportunity to upset a nationally ranked opponent doesn't come along very often and to cough up a 10 point lead with 3 minutes to go really hurts. Let's face it, the Saints only have 8 wins on the year and are not going any place, their only hope of salvaging this season is to play the role of spoiler, and they were not able to accomplish that. There was a key play with 1:44 left in regulation that stands out. The score was 79 - 73 and Albertus attempted a long out let pass up the right side line. The Saints point guard stole the pass cleanly, and then for some unexplained reason, attacked the basket against not one, but TWO Albertus defenders. I was waiting for him to pull the ball out, run the shot clock, and wait to get fouled, but that didn't happen, he tried to shoot the ball over the two defenders, fell down and traveled. Albertus inbounded the ball, went down court and immediately hit a three. I call that a negative 5 point play. That complete misunderstanding of how to play the game is why the Saints will never be a good team. The coach should have been screaming " pull it out, pull it out " but that didn't happen.
Some game notes that stood out were the fact that for the first time in six years the Saints did not try to full court press one of the most athletic teams in the country. The finally played a tight 3 -2 zone with all defenders below the arc eliminating dribble penetration, making catches on the low post difficult, and most of all, putting them in good position for defensive rebounding. I believe that defensive adjustment is what kept them in the game and avoided the early blow out that usually occurs. Why it took six years to make that adjustment is a mystery.
Early in the game the Saints threw in some outside shots that they don't normally make and caught Albertus by surprise. I am not sure that was a good thing. Yes, it kept the score close and gave them confidence, but it also reinforced that " shoot with out running any plays " mentality which I dislike so much. Knocking down shots out of the flow of their offense would have kept the game at their pace and tempo. The Saints shooting 42% kept them in the game but that doesn't happen very often. I did not think the Albertus defenders showed the same intensity that they showed against JWU. They were taking too many chances trying to steal passes instead of closing out shooters. The Albertus defenders were not showing good defensive rotations. When one defender stepped in to help on dribble penetration, no one rotated to pick up the helping defenders man. That gave the Saints a lot of easy shots that helped keep their shooting percentage in the forties.
One last question. With 2.6 seconds remaining on the clock and the Saints holding a 3 point lead, why did they not commit a foul? I believe it was still a 1 and 1 situation, not 2 shots. On an inbounds play you are not even required to foul the player who catches the ball, all you have to do is hold any cutter, so you can almost choose who you want to shoot the free throws. Little things that make a big difference.
Now also to give credit to Albertus for not panicking in the last five minutes of regulation down 11 points. Albertus continued to run their sets, get good looks, not take desperation threes, take advantage of the Emmanuel mistakes and play with the poise of a champion. All that stuff will come into play again in the tournament, and showing that kind of clam, winning confidence will help.
Also, another impressive win by Lasell as they beat St. Joe's by 17. However, GNAC leading scorer Steve Simonds did not play for St. Joes. That Arsenault kid hit 6 more 3's and the team had 14 total.
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 17, 2015, 08:31:24 PM
Dave McHugh will be happy to know Albertus trails Emmanuel by 10 with 7 to play. I know he enjoys watching Albertus struggle. This team isn't the same without Jennings, let alone Jennings and Sanders
You know what... this is BS. I don't enjoy watching AMC struggle. I don't enjoy watching anyone struggle. These are student-athletes playing a sport they love in a division I care deeply about and want to shine a light on as much as I possibly can. Struggling does nothing for me just as it does nothing for them. I went through an 0-17 soccer season in my collegiate career - it sucked, but I learned a lot from it. However, I don't want any student-athlete to struggle in a winless season or otherwise. In no way, shape, or form have I ever indicated I like watching Albertus struggle. I might comment that I don't think they are as good as others may think they are... but I have never had any glee in any team struggling including a rival. Do I take interest in seeing AMC have a nail-bitter of a game against Emmanual? Yes, because it tells me something about the team, the game, the opponent, the conference, etc. Would I have celebrated if AMC had lost... ABSOLUTELY NOT!
You can disagree with my point of view on AMC per how good they are and their out-of-conference scheduling... that is fine... but don't make any assumption I want to see them struggle. Student-athletes at AMC, Amherst, Coast Guard, Merchant Marine, Goucher, and even Caltech are all playing the sport because they love it... don't try and even pretend I think otherwise.
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 09:18:21 AM
At least one camera man got the shot
http://sportzedge.com/2015/02/17/tavon-sledge-hits-clutch-three-at-buzzer-albertus-magnus-completes-crazy-comeback-to-beat-emmanuel-in-ot/
Great video, but someone should tell the sports guys that the longest home winning streak in all of college basketball belongs to the Amherst Lord Jeffs women's basketball team... well over 100 games now.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 18, 2015, 01:56:20 PM
Great video, but someone should tell the sports guys that the longest home winning streak in all of college basketball belongs to the Amherst Lord Jeffs women's basketball team... well over 100 games now.
No need to rain on our parade :P Is that streak current?
That streak is very current.
Lol no one cares about women's sports
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 18, 2015, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 17, 2015, 08:31:24 PM
Dave McHugh will be happy to know Albertus trails Emmanuel by 10 with 7 to play. I know he enjoys watching Albertus struggle. This team isn't the same without Jennings, let alone Jennings and Sanders
You know what... this is BS. I don't enjoy watching AMC struggle. I don't enjoy watching anyone struggle. These are student-athletes playing a sport they love in a division I care deeply about and want to shine a light on as much as I possibly can. Struggling does nothing for me just as it does nothing for them. I went through an 0-17 soccer season in my collegiate career - it sucked, but I learned a lot from it. However, I don't want any student-athlete to struggle in a winless season or otherwise. In no way, shape, or form have I ever indicated I like watching Albertus struggle. I might comment that I don't think they are as good as others may think they are... but I have never had any glee in any team struggling including a rival. Do I take interest in seeing AMC have a nail-bitter of a game against Emmanual? Yes, because it tells me something about the team, the game, the opponent, the conference, etc. Would I have celebrated if AMC had lost... ABSOLUTELY NOT!
You can disagree with my point of view on AMC per how good they are and their out-of-conference scheduling... that is fine... but don't make any assumption I want to see them struggle. Student-athletes at AMC, Amherst, Coast Guard, Merchant Marine, Goucher, and even Caltech are all playing the sport because they love it... don't try and even pretend I think otherwise.
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 09:18:21 AM
At least one camera man got the shot
http://sportzedge.com/2015/02/17/tavon-sledge-hits-clutch-three-at-buzzer-albertus-magnus-completes-crazy-comeback-to-beat-emmanuel-in-ot/
Great video, but someone should tell the sports guys that the longest home winning streak in all of college basketball belongs to the Amherst Lord Jeffs women's basketball team... well over 100 games now.
Don't care if you don't give them their due. I have a problem with you talking about their actions and coach Oliver's. Sportsmanship, as if they have none. Way off, sorry to tell you. At the same time they are there to win, so deal with it
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 18, 2015, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 17, 2015, 08:31:24 PM
Dave McHugh will be happy to know Albertus trails Emmanuel by 10 with 7 to play. I know he enjoys watching Albertus struggle. This team isn't the same without Jennings, let alone Jennings and Sanders
You know what... this is BS. I don't enjoy watching AMC struggle. I don't enjoy watching anyone struggle. These are student-athletes playing a sport they love in a division I care deeply about and want to shine a light on as much as I possibly can. Struggling does nothing for me just as it does nothing for them. I went through an 0-17 soccer season in my collegiate career - it sucked, but I learned a lot from it. However, I don't want any student-athlete to struggle in a winless season or otherwise. In no way, shape, or form have I ever indicated I like watching Albertus struggle. I might comment that I don't think they are as good as others may think they are... but I have never had any glee in any team struggling including a rival. Do I take interest in seeing AMC have a nail-bitter of a game against Emmanual? Yes, because it tells me something about the team, the game, the opponent, the conference, etc. Would I have celebrated if AMC had lost... ABSOLUTELY NOT!
You can disagree with my point of view on AMC per how good they are and their out-of-conference scheduling... that is fine... but don't make any assumption I want to see them struggle. Student-athletes at AMC, Amherst, Coast Guard, Merchant Marine, Goucher, and even Caltech are all playing the sport because they love it... don't try and even pretend I think otherwise.
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 09:18:21 AM
At least one camera man got the shot
http://sportzedge.com/2015/02/17/tavon-sledge-hits-clutch-three-at-buzzer-albertus-magnus-completes-crazy-comeback-to-beat-emmanuel-in-ot/
Great video, but someone should tell the sports guys that the longest home winning streak in all of college basketball belongs to the Amherst Lord Jeffs women's basketball team... well over 100 games now.
Don't care if you don't give them their due. I have a problem with you talking about their actions and coach Oliver's. Sportsmanship, as if they have none. Way off, sorry to tell you. At the same time they are there to win, so deal with it
They haven't behaved well in big games. This team talks, complains, whines, and yells more than almost any other team I've watched. Personally, I'd prefer a team let their fans be the obnoxious ones, but I'm not entirely opposed to teams doing it - so long as they can keep it under control. It's a tough ask for kids to be emotionally aware in the midst of big games. Oliver takes an approach with the team in this area that not many coaches do. It's not going to win over a lot of neutrals - but it does seem to work out well for recruiting and for overall record.
It is what it is.
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 18, 2015, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 17, 2015, 08:31:24 PM
Dave McHugh will be happy to know Albertus trails Emmanuel by 10 with 7 to play. I know he enjoys watching Albertus struggle. This team isn't the same without Jennings, let alone Jennings and Sanders
You know what... this is BS. I don't enjoy watching AMC struggle. I don't enjoy watching anyone struggle. These are student-athletes playing a sport they love in a division I care deeply about and want to shine a light on as much as I possibly can. Struggling does nothing for me just as it does nothing for them. I went through an 0-17 soccer season in my collegiate career - it sucked, but I learned a lot from it. However, I don't want any student-athlete to struggle in a winless season or otherwise. In no way, shape, or form have I ever indicated I like watching Albertus struggle. I might comment that I don't think they are as good as others may think they are... but I have never had any glee in any team struggling including a rival. Do I take interest in seeing AMC have a nail-bitter of a game against Emmanual? Yes, because it tells me something about the team, the game, the opponent, the conference, etc. Would I have celebrated if AMC had lost... ABSOLUTELY NOT!
You can disagree with my point of view on AMC per how good they are and their out-of-conference scheduling... that is fine... but don't make any assumption I want to see them struggle. Student-athletes at AMC, Amherst, Coast Guard, Merchant Marine, Goucher, and even Caltech are all playing the sport because they love it... don't try and even pretend I think otherwise.
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 09:18:21 AM
At least one camera man got the shot
http://sportzedge.com/2015/02/17/tavon-sledge-hits-clutch-three-at-buzzer-albertus-magnus-completes-crazy-comeback-to-beat-emmanuel-in-ot/
Great video, but someone should tell the sports guys that the longest home winning streak in all of college basketball belongs to the Amherst Lord Jeffs women's basketball team... well over 100 games now.
Don't care if you don't give them their due. I have a problem with you talking about their actions and coach Oliver's. Sportsmanship, as if they have none. Way off, sorry to tell you. At the same time they are there to win, so deal with it
You can have a problem with my opinion on sportsmanship - fine. I will state when I think it goes over the line. AMC isn't the first; they won't be the last.
However, don't try and twist my opinions on behavior into my wanting to see a team suffer. There is no straight line between those two vastly different aspects. There isn't even a dotted or crooked line you can take. That is putting words in my mouth.
Did Sledge walk? Catch/hop or hop/catch?
Just kidding - great moment - congrats Magnus.
Place nice boys..........................
The present Amherst WBB home game streak is 109 with a win over Middlebury last weekend. The previous WBB home game streak was 99 by the UCONN women's team. The overall home streak in all of college BB was set in the late 50's by the MBB team of the Un. of Kentucky...at 129, I believe.
The fan who feel that women sports does not matter....it should be noted that in the state of CT....the UConn WBB is bigger than the men's teams at UCONN...including football.
Amherst's record breaking streak has gotten national attention in the media and a nice congrat from UConn. Lots of people around the country and world care about women sports.
I'm not one to be politically correct as you can tell. Take it as is I suppose. However, while uconn women's bball is huge here in ct, it is not bigger then the men's program. That's just not true. If anything they are even. Let's be honest tho, no one actually cares about womens sports for the most part here in America. That's just the truth........hoops, that's their character, it is what it is like you said. They feed off of it. They certainly seemed to last night. They play with a ton of emotions. Oliver runs a great program. Thanks WPI.
Quote from: amh63 on February 18, 2015, 03:44:18 PM
The present Amherst WBB home game streak is 109 with a win over Middlebury last weekend. The previous WBB home game streak was 99 by the UCONN women's team. The overall home streak in all of college BB was set in the late 50's by the MBB team of the Un. of Kentucky...at 129, I believe.
The fan who feel that women sports does not matter....it should be noted that in the state of CT....the UConn WBB is bigger than the men's teams at UCONN...including football.
Amherst's record breaking streak has gotten national attention in the media and a nice congrat from UConn. Lots of people around the country and world care about women sports.
Don't remind me about UConn football, I'm a season ticket holder!
And I'd have to argue about the Women's program being "bigger" than the Men's program. Having been too all the parades, and in bars and parties during tournament games, and countless games in person, the atmosphere around the men's team when they are good/playing in big games is much more exciting. The women are "bigger" in the sense that they dominate consistently...but I also think that takes away from aura around them. They're supposed to win, so when they do it's no suprise. Fans of both watch every men's game, they do not watch every women's game.
Interesting perspectives with respect to WBB vs MBB in state popularity. Have to state here that I have a number of " connects" with UCONN basketball. My wife is an UConn alum...born and raised in Ct. I was a grad student there. Followed the MBB team in the Toby Kimball era. My best man and his wife are loyal fans of the WBB team...more so than the men's team. My best man is moving to NC soon and has offered me his WBB Final 4 tickets for Tampa....fearing his move will prevent him from going....has followed the team to other titles. Was up in Storrs in Nov....visited the BB hall of fame...WBB built?...ate at Gino's place there. Know one of the men players that work out with the WBB team...etc. checked out the new practice facilities too.
Given those awareness of UCONN basketball, I still stand by my "position" of the Women being more popular than the men.
Even in spite of Jim Calhoun's sucess and last year's title team. I admit that I'm not a fan of Calhoun.
I'm going toTampa tomorrow for a visit..maybe check out the Final 4 site. Was on the East coast beaches last week end and had a debate with some Conn fans from Newtown over the BB teams. One couple are also season football ticket holders. Still Mad that Maryland "stole" the football coach :)
Anyway...it is an interesting debate topic.
The win is nice, the streak is an amazing accomplishment. But I would have preferred the lost. 3 of the last 4 games showed me that this team needs work to make a legitimate run in March. Please don't get me wrong, I am happy they won the game especially because I know the guys well. But, this team needs work. Saint Paul hit it right on the head. Defense was lazy, 2-3 zone killed Albertus all night, and they couldnt run. The saints have talent but played young. I dont expect this in the tournament.
Let's see how they respond tomorrow.
As for the dave/ferraro fued. I think most Albertus fans remember the dark ages of 4 win seasons and want to hang onto this 3 year run as long as possible. I Think we get passionate about the falcons and protective. Dave you make solid points about the schedule and conference, but Albertus can be competitive in the little east, newmac, and nescac, not 16-0 but competitive. Ask any regular poster and I think they would agree.
Finally as a faithful big east supporter I would like to say that I root for the Uconn men and women team equally.... To lose of course!
Dunk Haven baby!
Falcons2010, I wish the big east was still around to beat up on your red storm. Lol as far as the "feud," it is what it is. I've never seen the guy say one good thing about Albertus. Not one. complains about their schedule, fine. But don't have Mitch in an interview a few times and never press him about it if that's how you feel. Don't bring up sportsmanship problems with Albertus, and then again ignore it when you have Oliver for an interview.......amh, def a topic of debate for sure
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 04:03:59 PM
I'm not one to be politically correct as you can tell. Take it as is I suppose. However, while uconn women's bball is huge here in ct, it is not bigger then the men's program. That's just not true. If anything they are even. Let's be honest tho, no one actually cares about womens sports for the most part here in America. That's just the truth........hoops, that's their character, it is what it is like you said. They feed off of it. They certainly seemed to last night. They play with a ton of emotions. Oliver runs a great program. Thanks WPI.
There's 2 schools in the country where the women's basketball program is bigger than the men's basketball program: Tennessee is one, UConn is the other. Stanford maybe a distant 3rd, but I still think the men's program there is better.
Not making any judgements by this fact, but the Uconn Men about 1500 more in attendance than the Women over the past few years.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 18, 2015, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 17, 2015, 08:31:24 PM
Dave McHugh will be happy to know Albertus trails Emmanuel by 10 with 7 to play. I know he enjoys watching Albertus struggle. This team isn't the same without Jennings, let alone Jennings and Sanders
You know what... this is BS. I don't enjoy watching AMC struggle. I don't enjoy watching anyone struggle. These are student-athletes playing a sport they love in a division I care deeply about and want to shine a light on as much as I possibly can. Struggling does nothing for me just as it does nothing for them. I went through an 0-17 soccer season in my collegiate career - it sucked, but I learned a lot from it. However, I don't want any student-athlete to struggle in a winless season or otherwise. In no way, shape, or form have I ever indicated I like watching Albertus struggle. I might comment that I don't think they are as good as others may think they are... but I have never had any glee in any team struggling including a rival. Do I take interest in seeing AMC have a nail-bitter of a game against Emmanual? Yes, because it tells me something about the team, the game, the opponent, the conference, etc. Would I have celebrated if AMC had lost... ABSOLUTELY NOT!
You can disagree with my point of view on AMC per how good they are and their out-of-conference scheduling... that is fine... but don't make any assumption I want to see them struggle. Student-athletes at AMC, Amherst, Coast Guard, Merchant Marine, Goucher, and even Caltech are all playing the sport because they love it... don't try and even pretend I think otherwise.
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 09:18:21 AM
At least one camera man got the shot
http://sportzedge.com/2015/02/17/tavon-sledge-hits-clutch-three-at-buzzer-albertus-magnus-completes-crazy-comeback-to-beat-emmanuel-in-ot/
Great video, but someone should tell the sports guys that the longest home winning streak in all of college basketball belongs to the Amherst Lord Jeffs women's basketball team... well over 100 games now.
I don't know what's worse, the 0-17 season, or playing soccer
Sorry lil Dave lol :-X
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 07:30:03 PM
I don't know what's worse, the 0-17 season, or playing soccer
Don't you think that's a little uncalled for??
Quote from: 7express on February 18, 2015, 07:46:19 PM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 07:30:03 PM
I don't know what's worse, the 0-17 season, or playing soccer
Don't you think that's a little uncalled for??
Does it really bother you that much? I'm only ribbing, but if it really is that big a deal then I'm sorry my humor is a bit off. Didn't mean any Ill will. I've had my fair share of bad teams. That is all
Game Report Anna Maria 88 / Suffolk 79
Watched the video reply of the Amcats game. This was a much closer game than the score indicates. At the 30 minute mark the score was tied at 65. The Amcats did not pull away until the last 5 minutes of the game. Ever since their big upset over JWU, the Amcats have struggled with the bottom half of the GNAC conference. They have given up a lot of points to Emmanuel, Lasell, and now Suffolk. The Amcats can score. They get good production out of Bradanese, Franklin, and Delorey, and have a steady point guard, but in the last three games they have not been getting the defensive stops that they need to remain in the top half of the conference. Bradanese and Franklin led the way with 21 and 17 points to give the Amcats their 12 th conference win. At the defensive end of the court Suffolk was able to get many open jump shots and also to find open lanes to the rim. The Amcats zone is just not as aggressive as it was in January. It is possible that they are playing down to the level of their competition but that is not a good habit to get into, especially at playoff time. I was picking Anna Maria to be my dark horse for a playoff upset but now I am not so sure. They will have to pick it up defensively to be a factor in the playoffs.
Of all the things F13 has said that was certainly joke. Coming from an AMC soccer player he's always "hated" us soccer players haha
Hahahaha thx Dave. Only certain ones lol it most certainly was a joke, I shouldnt of assumed it wouldn't go over as one
Would *
Hope Vic is watching this Duke UNC game focusing on Jhalil Okafor lol
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 06:44:16 PM
Falcons2010, I wish the big east was still around to beat up on your red storm. Lol as far as the "feud," it is what it is. I've never seen the guy say one good thing about Albertus. Not one. complains about their schedule, fine. But don't have Mitch in an interview a few times and never press him about it if that's how you feel. Don't bring up sportsmanship problems with Albertus, and then again ignore it when you have Oliver for an interview.......amh, def a topic of debate for sure
A) I have pressed Mitch about the schedule especially when talking about the SOS... thus the reason I know he has claimed the NESCAC has ducked the team. He stated that when answering the question about the schedule last year. This year, we talked about the fact the SOS is low again and the fact the Purchase game turned into a dud and at the New Jersey City game didn't pan out (in terns of records for both teams). We discussed how the Stockton game was their only significant game. That prompted him to talk about putting into host because despite possibly having a small gym, he figured they had a chance to host when rankings were all said and done. We have certainly talked about scheduling because you can't talk about AMC and rankings without talking about the SOS and thus scheduling.
B) I have had Mitch on the show ONCE since I talked about sportsmanship (for those who need the timeline, the op-ed came at the end of the second weekend and ahead of the championship weekend and thus we didn't have Mitch on the show due to their loss). He was on the show a few weeks ago and since my comments were roughly 10 months prior and I had nothing to discuss on the topic since, I didn't feel I needed to bring it up. Furthermore, I stated my opinion rather publicly and didn't feel I need to bring that back up again. That's not ignoring it - my opinion is rather public.
C) You might need to pay attention more to what I say about AMC. I have never stated they aren't a good team, I just don't think they are as great as others make them out to be. But I have spoken for why they are good and this year talked about their bad luck with two of the games they scheduled that on paper in the off-season looked like good games for them. Those who think I just speak negatively about a team usually don't see the positives but only the negatives.
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 07:49:51 PM
Quote from: 7express on February 18, 2015, 07:46:19 PM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 18, 2015, 07:30:03 PM
I don't know what's worse, the 0-17 season, or playing soccer
Don't you think that's a little uncalled for??
Does it really bother you that much? I'm only ribbing, but if it really is that big a deal then I'm sorry my humor is a bit off. Didn't mean any Ill will. I've had my fair share of bad teams. That is all
One thought certainly is interesting... you want me to treat AMC with respect but you don't mind firing a shot across the bow. I understand you are kidding and that is all well in good, but if others thought you weren't... then that is two shots you have taken at me in the last 24 hours and yet I haven't spoken ill towards you once. We can certainly disagree, but I am not stooping to low blows (I know - you were kidding - but others didn't see it that way, clearly).
As for the season... and the sport... that was the most rewarding, challenging, humbling sports experience of my life. Playing the sport I loved (among others) in college is the best experience, period. But I learned a lot about myself, how to be a better teammate, how close a team and your teammates can become (one is my best friend and god father my son and in turn I am to him and his son), and why winning isn't everything. I started three games that season as a goalie (because our-everything starter was injured) and had a shot get past me with 12 seconds left in what was a 0-0 game... and I wouldn't trade it in for anything. That teams was also a single player away from legitimately being a 12-5, or better, squad (long story). Sounds strange... but it is one experience that has made me who I am today.
I'll respond when I have more time Dave. I've been thru humbling seasons in college, just go looks the Albertus baseball records from 04-08.......Albertus bball all team the last 5 years, just for fun:
Pg- Eian Davis
Sg- Sledge
Sf- Watson
Pf- Askew
C- Vic
Bench:
Pg- Ashad Jackson
Sg- Jennings
G- walden st juste
F- larsen
C- Lora
Id put this team up against any team the last 5 yrs
Ps you treating amc with respect, and what I say and do has no bearing on that at all. I'm just a fan
Dave - RR #2 are tomorrow, correct?
PS - how bout a little front page love for Worcester/Wooster this weekend when Wooster keeps their 20 game win streak going?
Duh - I mean today, right? Any idea what time? I just gained a day - thought it was Wednesday!
They are released:
1) Babson
2) Bates
3) Trinity
4) Amherst
5) Eastern
6) WPI
7) Bowdoin
8) Springfield
9) Magnus
10) RIC
11) Southern VT
There was a delay this week due to a server upgrade over the weekend at the NCAA headquarters... they then made an appearance earlier than expected this morning: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/?p=2630 (http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/?p=2630)
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 19, 2015, 09:33:46 AM
Ps you treating amc with respect, and what I say and do has no bearing on that at all. I'm just a fan
But you wanting me to treat the team with respect but not treating others in the same manner does... hypocrisy. Don't ask for me to treat AMC with respect and not do the same in turn in conversation.
I'm not asking you to do anything, I just disagree with your points. Thanks for the update on what hypocrisy is though. No one cares if you give albetus respect, I just like to let you know when you are wrong on them. At the end of the day I get to watch albertus with or without your opinion on Albertus. If you can't take the back n forth then stop posting
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 19, 2015, 11:52:29 AM
I'm not asking you to do anything, I just disagree with your points. Thanks for the update on what hypocrisy is though. No one cares if you give albetus respect, I just like to let you know when you are wrong on them. At the end of the day I get to watch albertus with or without your opinion on Albertus. If you can't take the back n forth then stop posting
He can't really be "wrong", since the things on which you disagree are pretty much opionions/speculation.
I think the joke about soccer was misinterpreted as serious since you hadn't really developed a rapport with Dave as a buddy who likes to rib each other in good fun.
As for the knock on Women's athletics; that's just lame man...
Nice to see the Falcons back on the blowout trail. Emmanuel IS better than Mt. Ida but this team constructed as is (read as: without James) is night and day without Julian.
Quote from: lildave678 on February 20, 2015, 09:49:25 AM
Nice to see the Falcons back on the blowout trail. Emmanuel IS better than Mt. Ida but this team constructed as is (read as: without James) is night and day without Julian.
lildave,
WTNH TV8 New Haven again, doing a great job covering the Falcons, most recently saw the coverage/highlights of exciting OT game with Emmanuel. WTNH, the only Sports report that gives love to D-III teams and teams, other than UConn.... Yale, Quinnipiac, Southern Connecticut, WestConn... which is refreshing and totally interesting to watch. Hope AM keeps up the winning, (except vs ECSU of course), wins the conference tourney and does damage in the NCAA's!!!
Hoping for the same! Yeah the Sportzedge does an excellent job covering them. Seems like they kinda disappeared for a bit during the middle of the season but now that they know about the home winning streak they're covering them much more consistently.
I'd love AND hate an AMC/ECSU NCAA tournament game!
With the last Saturday looming upon us, much of the GNAC field is set.
Albertus, JWU, Anna Maria, St. Joe's and Lasell make up the top 5 regardless of the outcomes this weekend as each spot is separated by at least two games. Emmanuel is currently slotted 6th at 6-11 and then Norwich, Suffolk, and Mt. Ida all reside at 5-12. I'm not sure how the tiebreakers work but I imagine some movement can take place among those teams pending the results. Suffolk and Emmanuel play which looks like the biggest game in terms of the tournament.
Watched the Lasell win over Suffolk last night and was very impressed with the Lasell offense. Once again Lasell was in double figures with the 3 ball, hitting 13 threes on only 24 shots. The interesting part is that all of the Lasell threes come out the flow of their offense, they are not forcing any shots and rarely do they shoot a 3 in transition. They are getting open 3 looks from good down screens, quick ball reversals, and especially dribble penetration kickouts. I watched the game closely to see if they were just jacking up shots and they were not, they actually do a very nice job of running their sets. The are playing hot right now with recent wins over Anna Maria, St Joe, and now Suffolk. I believe that win last night gives them sole possession of the 5 th place spot. Nice recovery for Lasell after a rough start to the season. Playing your best basketball at playoff time always keeps the playoffs interesting.
Different Subject ; finally got a chance to watch the last 2.6 seconds of the AMC / Emmanuel game that was shown by the news team since the live stream camera didn't pan down court. There were TWO opportunities to take holding fouls on that play. One when Victor was jumping to catch the inbounds pass, and two when Sledge was cutting from the half court line to the wing on the arc. Massive coaching blunder that cost his team a chance to beat a nationally ranked team.
Same time post! ;D
Quote from: booyakasha on February 20, 2015, 08:46:28 AM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 19, 2015, 11:52:29 AM
I'm not asking you to do anything, I just disagree with your points. Thanks for the update on what hypocrisy is though. No one cares if you give albetus respect, I just like to let you know when you are wrong on them. At the end of the day I get to watch albertus with or without your opinion on Albertus. If you can't take the back n forth then stop posting
He can't really be "wrong", since the things on which you disagree are pretty much opionions/speculation.
I think the joke about soccer was misinterpreted as serious since you hadn't really developed a rapport with Dave as a buddy who likes to rib each other in good fun.
As for the knock on Women's athletics; that's just lame man...
It's not lame, it's the truth. Barely anyone cares about women's sports. Everyone is so soft now a days. No one really cares about somens sports, compared to men's.
Women's *
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 20, 2015, 11:49:43 AM
Quote from: booyakasha on February 20, 2015, 08:46:28 AM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 19, 2015, 11:52:29 AM
I'm not asking you to do anything, I just disagree with your points. Thanks for the update on what hypocrisy is though. No one cares if you give albetus respect, I just like to let you know when you are wrong on them. At the end of the day I get to watch albertus with or without your opinion on Albertus. If you can't take the back n forth then stop posting
He can't really be "wrong", since the things on which you disagree are pretty much opionions/speculation.
I think the joke about soccer was misinterpreted as serious since you hadn't really developed a rapport with Dave as a buddy who likes to rib each other in good fun.
As for the knock on Women's athletics; that's just lame man...
It's not lame, it's the truth. Barely anyone cares about women's sports. Everyone is so soft now a days. No one really cares about somens sports, compared to men's.
And nobody really cares about d3 basketball compared to d1, and nobody really cares about d1 basketball compared to the NBA, and nobody cares about the NBA compared to the NFL, and nobody cares about the NFL compared to professional soccer. So the only legitimate sport is pro soccer. Remind me why you are here again?
No, not really a valid point when the nba and nfl bring in billions each yr. solid effort though. Just here to remind ppl who are offended by comments such as, "no one cares about women's sports," that they are soft. Enjoy your weekend though
And with that said, albertus holds the current longest streak at home, in all of d1 d2 d3
But the Amherst women hold the current NCAA record at 109 straight I think.
Final regular-season game of the year today as the Falcons take on the AMCATS at 3 PM in Mass. I think this will be a competitive game in the 1st half an maybe early on in the second but once Albertus puts a little run together late in the 2nd I think we put this one away. We are just a better overall team and while Anna Maria went on a nice run for a while, they have certainly come back down to earth as of late.
Ferraro13, give it a rest already. There are a lot of people out there who care about womens sports. Just because you dont doesnt mean others share the same sentiment. And beleive me I love the Falcons!! I'm with you!! I think they are vastly underated all the time by people and get no respect come tourney time. I have had a few exchanges with Dave on here about the Falcons and we obviously had differing opinions but thats what they are. OPINIONS. Nobody is right or wrong. Whether your joking or not joking doesnt matter really, don't call guys out for having a different opinion on something then you.
At the end of the day Dave and Pat and all the guys at D3Hoops.com do a ton for us the fans to be able to enjoy D3Hoops. Hell you wouldnt be on these boards postings if it wasnt for them. Just because we believe in the Falcons doesnt mean everyone else will. But this year starting Tuesday night in New haven, we will make them start believing. And if you asked Dave I gurantee he would say he hopes we make him a believer too.
Like Shaq and Kobe, just bury the hatchet.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 21, 2015, 07:21:48 AM
I think they are vastly underated all the time by people and get no respect come tourney time.
See, this is what I don't get. Yes, Dave has said he won't put them above #12, but #12 is still pretty good - and a lot of other people have them higher (even #1). To me, it's tough to be underrated when you're a top five team in the rankings.
When it comes to regional ranking and tournament schedule, there's no such thing as "underrated" they have to go by the numbers. They're not allowed to use the eye test or rank based on how good they think a team is. It's strictly numbers.
Do those number effectively rank the teams in order of ability? No. They're usually very wrong in many cases. It's still the best system we have - even you guys can't tell me you want people just using their best judgement to let teams in. Sure, it might work out better for you this year, but there's no way it's a better system overall.
A possible second round match up with Lasell makes me nervous.
Quote from: falcons2010 on February 21, 2015, 11:06:52 AM
A possible second round match up with Lasell makes me nervous.
I feel ya Falcons, I'm hoping St Joes takes care of business in that 4/5 game.
I don't think there are a lot of suffolk supporters on D3, however, they should be applauded by what they did to this kid and famoly. Great job Suffolk!
http://www.thegnac.com/sports/mbkb/index
Enjoy the video
Back to basketball talk......Great video! No sledge today hope nothing serious. albertus finishes conference play undefeated
Albertus wins without Sledge. Why did he not play??
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 21, 2015, 07:21:48 AM
Ferraro13, give it a rest already. There are a lot of people out there who care about womens sports. Just because you dont doesnt mean others share the same sentiment. And beleive me I love the Falcons!! I'm with you!! I think they are vastly underated all the time by people and get no respect come tourney time. I have had a few exchanges with Dave on here about the Falcons and we obviously had differing opinions but thats what they are. OPINIONS. Nobody is right or wrong. Whether your joking or not joking doesnt matter really, don't call guys out for having a different opinion on something then you.
At the end of the day Dave and Pat and all the guys at D3Hoops.com do a ton for us the fans to be able to enjoy D3Hoops. Hell you wouldnt be on these boards postings if it wasnt for them. Just because we believe in the Falcons doesnt mean everyone else will. But this year starting Tuesday night in New haven, we will make them start believing. And if you asked Dave I gurantee he would say he hopes we make him a believer too.
Like Shaq and Kobe, just bury the hatchet.
It's done with junkie. I don't agree with everything yiu said, but I agree with most of it. And I didn't have a problem with his opinion, just how he comes off, and about the Falcons. I'm not the only one on this thread either. It's done with.
Back to basketball indeed Ferraro!! The Falcons finished the regular season 18-0 in conference play. What an achievement! I drove up to the game today and Sledge definitely was being rested for the playoff run. He didn't look visibly hurt at all and I'm glad Coach Oliver decided to rest him. Not his typical style but I think we all agree that it was much deserved rest. The team today certainly wasn't in full gear. They looked like they kind of took it easy out there and still managed to come away with a victory. With the exception of Eian (because there's no slowing him down) everybody kind of went through the motions and I'm glad it gave them a chance to really run their set offense more than how they usually do. Anna Maria is a really tough place to play I must say. Their fans are pretty rowdy and they got into the heads of a couple of our players sometimes but it didn't really make much of a difference. In the end talent still won out and Albertus had the most talented player on the bench which is really saying something about this team and its depth overall!
Can't wait for Tuesday!! Should be a fun tournament!!! The run starts now!!!
GNAC Playoff Picks
1 - Albertus over Suffolk no preview necessary
2 - JWU over Mt Ida no preview necessary
3 - Emmanuel over Anna Maria the Amcats have had a great year, stepping up and capturing 3 rd place with the conference wide open, but they have not played well the first two weeks of February. The have struggled to beat or lost close games to some of the lower placed teams the last two weeks. The Saints have had another disappointing season and have nothing to lose by pulling off an upset. I think they will be playing free and easy, with no pressure, and no expectations. That mentality coupled with their big man having no defender on equal size on the Amcats makes them a dangerous draw for the opening round. This is the third time they play the Amcats so hopefully they will be able to stop the flex offense this time. A close game but the Saints winning by 7 points, 73 - 66. Let's just hope the Saints are up by more than 3 points with 2.6 seconds remaining.
4 - Lasell over St Joe again St Joe has had a great year and are playing at home but Lasell is just on fire right now. I have never seen a GNAC team turn around their season like Lasell did this year. They were not a lock to even make the playoffs a few weeks ago, and then they started raining 3 's on teams like I have never seen before. Who shoots 60 - 65 % from behind the arc game after game ? It does not appear to be a fluke, the games I have watched show them running a very deliberate offense to get open looks. They are a very exciting team to watch and I think they will pull off the upset over St Joe 83 - 72.
Saint,
I agree with your first three game results. However, I think St. joes wins on Tuesday. They will be playing at home and will prepare to defend the three much better this time around. I think it's a closer game but St. Joe wins by 5 or 6. The pave will be slow and battle won in the paint. I think St. Joes keeps the score in the low 60's. 64-58 my prediction.
Well guys tonight is the night! A clean slate for every team who is fortunate enough to still be alive!
No matter what I will always be nervous for the Falcons. I believe in this team and Coach Oliver 100% but basketball is just like any other sport. Anything can happen on any given night which is why this team needs to come out tonight and every game forward and play like its last game they will ever play in their lives.
I think Eian is going to have a HUGE post season! He is without doubt the most passionate player I have seen this year in D3. He lives to play this game, you can just tell how much he loves being on the court and how much he loves playing with his teammates. His energy and enthusiasm will be the driving force for us going forward. Lemar Larsen and Julian Sanders are going to step up as well. Both are 4 year players who have an opportunity that few have and ever will have and that's to capture 4 consecutive GNAC Championships and make 4 straight NCAA tournament appearances. Truly an unprecedented opportunity. Marcus Walker will contribute off the bench with his ability to rebound and his overall understanding of the offense. I love Marcus's unselfishness; he seems like a tremendous teammate. Big Vic and Tavon Sledge! What else is there really to say about these two that hasn't already been said. If Vic can control the post and play superior defense like he has been without getting into foul trouble then this team can go perhaps farther than any before them. Sledge just needs to keep his emotions in check and play the way he knows how to play which is basically better than anyone else on the court. There isn't a player in the country NOT ANYONE who can stop this kid if he gets off to a hot start. Try and guard him close he will dribble right by you, give him space and he will pull up with a jumper, give him too much space and you will get back screened and shortly followed by a dunk on your head. He is a rarity in D3 Hoops and I really hope this team can go on a run so that everyone can see him on the brightest stage!
LETS GO FALCONS!!! THE SEASON STARTS TONIGHT!
What in the freaking freak is happening with the camera lol?
Well this game got out of hand quickly. Granted it's Suffolk but Albertus showed what kinda run they can put on you in a hurry. As it started developing I wrote down the series of plays...
Suffolk was hanging around and cut the lead to 13 at 42-29. The ensuing possession Julian hits a 3 and gets fouled, cashes in the FT. Vic has a huge block on a backdoor cut that leads to a Davis layup. Suffolk commits an offensive foul and Lemar gets a layup underneath. After a miss Vic hits 1 of 2 at the line. A Suffolk turnover leads to a Sledge dunk, and another Suffolk turnover leads to a Vic dunk. Just like that it's 55-29.
Again, I know it's Suffolk but in that first half I liked the way Walters attacked the basket. If he has a smaller defender on him and he's out there with Vic and Tavon (drawing attention) he can get to the rim at will. I think he becomes something special next year.
As I type this JWU is up 18-12 on Mt Ida with 12 left in the 1st, Lasell is up 40-39 with 15 to go in the 2nd half, and Emmanuel leads Anna Maria 41-38 at the break.
Glad the St. Joes/Lasell game was available on video. St. Joe's with a late rally to force OT (sort of). Simonds hits a go ahead bucket with a few ticks remaining 68-66. Lasell gets fouled taking the buzzer beater. Kid who took the shot goes off with injury and Jeremy Daniel takes the FTs and nails both.
This is my first time seeing Simonds in person as their go-to-guy and he's a flat out scorer. I think the St. Joe's team as a whole is less scary, but Lasell certainly doesn't have someone who can drop 35 on a night.
St. Joes hangs on in OT.
Albertus runs away with it. They were up 30 and emptied the bench with 10 mins left. Sledge had a 360 dunk that the news channel 8 team most definitely got on camera. I'll post a link when it becomes avl
Emmanuel with a big win on the road... Can't wait to read Saint's thoughts.
Final Score Emmanuel 76 / Anna Maria 73
I had a feeling the Saints were going to win this game because Anna Maria has been struggling with the lower half teams in the GNAC the last few weeks, but I never expected the wild, wild, finish of this game. With 26 seconds remaining and the the Saints holding a 2 point lead, 73 - 71, and the ball, the Emmanuel coach called time out to set up a press break. Emmanuel inbounded the ball and Anna Maria immediately stole the ball and attacked the basket for a lay up, but the Saints big man fouled the Amcat player and sent him to the free throw line. With 15 seconds left Bradanese made both free throws to tie the game at 73. Emmanuel again inbounded the ball and the Amcats AGAIN immediately stole the ball. This time as the Amcat player started his dribble he lost control of the ball, the ball bounced off a Saint player , the Amcat player, trying to recover the loose ball ran over the Saint player, fouling and sending him to the line with a tie score, and 10 seconds remaining. The Saint player made one free throw, 74 - 73, but missed the second. The Amcats rebounded the miss, pushed the ball up court to Bradanese, who drove the lane, drawing 3 Saint defenders. Bradanese passed the ball across the lane to an open Amcat who fumbled the pass. The loose ball fell right into the hands of a Saint guard who was immediately fouled with 2.5 seconds remaining. This time the Saint player made both free throws, 76 - 73. The Amcats long pass down court was successful but the 3 point shot at the buzzer fell short. Wild game with an unpredictable finish, but this time of year it doesn't matter, all the ball has to do is bounce in your direction and you live to play another day. The Saints big man was a factor in two different ways. In the first 8 minutes of the game he dominated the paint by scoring and rebounding. For the rest of the game he was a factor because he was drawing 2 sometimes 3 Amcat defenders leaving perimeter players open all over the place. With no hand in their face the Saint guards were able to make enough shots to keep the Amcats from putting together any kind of run. The Saints shot 54% from the field, which is 20 % above their season average and that is because of the big man. For the second game in a row the Saints played a tight 3 -2 zone and did not press or try to run with the Amcats. Not sure why it took 6 years to figure that out. Maybe he got tired of losing. Next up is JWU, and I will not be predicting any upsets there but if the Saints follow their new found game plan at least they might keep within striking distance.
Here's sledges 360 dunk tonight
http://sportzedge.com/2015/02/24/awesome-dunk-helps-albertus-magnus-roll-past-suffolk/
St. paul great post. Can enmaumel pull off the upset thurs in your opinion?
Saint, along with your talk about the Emmanuel big drawing defenders...It's clear to see how Lasell got it going with the 3 ball late in the season. Once Marchand was back in the lineup for Lasell its obvious. Not many teams have a guy who can guard him one on one. He's certainly a load, and while I only watched the last 5 minutes of the 2nd half and OT it was clear that whenever he got the ball he was doubled and he'd do a nice job finding the open man almost 100% of the time for a 3.
Thursday's Games - No Upsets
Albertus over St Joe - should be a good game but I don't see St Joe pulling off any upsets. The Albertus size and speed and pressure defense should be too much for St Joe to handle. I see a 12 point win for Albertus 85 - 73.
JWU over Emmanuel - don't see the Saints pulling off another upset. The JWU foot speed and pressure defense is going to cause a lot of problems for the Saints guards. The JWU forward who covers the Saints big man is quick and very athletic and will neutralize the big man's points by running the floor for easy baskets. The first two times these teams played this year were blow outs for JWU. I think this game will be a little closer but I see a 15 point win for JWU 87 - 72.
Different Subject : Yes I like the way Marchand plays for Lasell. He has a soft touch around the basket, passes out of the double team very well, and doesn't force any shots. He does two other things very well. He sets great screens on the weak side of the court to get the Lasell guards open for skip passes. And, he does very nice dribble hand offs with the Lasell guards at the top of the key. Notice the nice foot work he uses after the dribble hand off, using the inside drop step to role to the basket. All fundamentally sound plays. He had good numbers last night, 18 points, 9 rebounds, 3 assists.
Different Subject : With 2.5 seconds remaining in last nights game against the Amcats and the Saints holding a 3 point lead I could not believe the Emmanuel coach again did not take the foul. He allowed the Amcats to complete a long pass up the right sideline and get a good look at an open 3 at the buzzer. Fortunately it was not Bardanese or Delorey shooting the ball or he might have seen another overtime nightmare unfold. Why is that such a hard decision to make?
Has he not seen Albertus do it twice?! (albeit once was with the game tied so that doesn't count)
St. Joes is always a prepared team. I've said it before; Coach Sanicola is hands down the second best Coach in this league right behind Coach Oliver IMO. I am a little nervous about this matchup only because whenever you're facing a 3 Point shooting team anything can happen. However St. Joes relies heavily on Simonds and even if he drops 30 (which I doubt he will be able to do on our home court with Sledge matched up on him) it takes a complete team to beat this Falcons squad when all 5 starters consistently score in double figures and 2 of the 5 normally surpassing 20 PPG. I just don't see St. Joes having the horses to accomplish that feat.
St. Paul said it best in his preview of the game. Size, Speed and Pressure D will be the biggest factors in this game. Not to mention having to come into the "Nest" from Standish Maine on a Thursday night.
As for the other Semi-Final, the Saints have had a really nice run at the end of the seaso but JWU is just too strong. I hope the Saints can keep it competitive and have something to build on for the offseason but JWU has the ability to really blow this game open if the Saints arent prepared.
Final public men's basketball regional rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2015/02/25/final-public-ncaa-regional-rankings-released/ (http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2015/02/25/final-public-ncaa-regional-rankings-released/)
Up 2 spots wahooooo, and a picture of Eian on the page!
:P ;)
If Albertus loses to St. Joes, do they get in the dance?
I would hope they do... but I am nervous they won't. That .473 SOS is killing them.
I have been suggesting people work from this benchmark: any team below .667 WL% or .500 SOS won't make the tournament as at-large selections. If they do, great. But set the expectation that they won't and go from there.
Any speculation as to why we jumped Springfield and Bowdoin? Bowdoin I could see maybe the loss, but Springfield went 2-0 while we went 3-0 for the week.
And take that a step further, is there much of a difference in chances of getting in if we get to the finals and lose?
First off, the committees start from scratch each week... so they look at all the data again and start over ranking. They don't start from the previous week and move teams around.
That being said, I think the WL% is starting to be taken into account. Remember a few weeks ago I warned AMC would be low but could work themselves up into maybe the top five. That was based on the fact if they kept winning, despite a poor SOS, they would probably start moving up because other teams are losing and their WL% keeps improving. I think that is what we are seeing here. Eventually, you can't ignore the WL% despite a poor SOS. However on the flip side, you can't reward them overly because of that poor SOS. Also remember, while another team might go undefeated, their SOS number may go up or down. I can't remember off the top of my head or can I find it quickly, but there is a chance Springfield's SOS numbers fell because of who they played in conference. I think they are done with the big WL% opponents in their conference and have been playing more teams on the bottom. As a result, the difference in SOS becomes possibly smaller when compared to AMC.
As for making the championship and losing... I still don't think AMC wants to be in that situation. Playing in the conference tournament will slightly improve their SOS, but I doubt it gets above .500 at this point (if it does - great). Just don't chance it and win the AQ. I really don't want to see AMC on a Pool C bubble especially if there are a lot of upsets this season.
Thanks for the info as always! +1
Question Dave, I know the D3 tournament doesn't do say a 16 vs 1 match up in the first round numbers wise. I understand certainly the top teams tend to get a better opening pod draw but let's say for some crazy reason the Falcons slip up and do actually get a Pool C bid? Would they in return be likely placed in one of those "easier" opening pods? And by "easier" I mean easier for the higher seed or Pool A qualifier? Because I have to think any top team who would draw AMC in the opening round would be pretty nervous knowing that there not playing the typical sacrificial lamb if you will.
I especially hate using the word "easier" in this context especially the way this season has gone by. There Is nothing easy in D3 basketball this season. So many good teams the parity across the country is outstanding.
I only thought of this because in our first apperance of the Coach Oliver era in the NCAA tourney at William Patterson we were supposed to be there punching bag that year in the opening game before we pulled off arguably one of the biggest upsets and one of the best endings in the tournaments recent history and perhaps long history as well. That game still gives me goosebumps!!
I guess it would depend on how the field is broken up once it's selected. If we did happen to get a Pool C bid we'd obviously be one of the last teams "selected." If it's based solely on that then we'd face a similar situation of being the "4 seed" in the pod like we were against/at Willy P and Alvernia. If the "selection" and the "placement" of the teams don't directly correlate (which I imagine they don't, due to geography, flights, any upsets in Pool A, etc) then I think we'd be the middle game like when we went to Middlebury and to Purchase.
I'm typing this over happy hour so I could be way off lol
I wouldnt want to risk it. I think Albertus deserves an opportunity to play next weekend; but if they lose one of the next two games, then they won't in my opinion. I think Albertus will look to run and try to play this game in the high 80's vs St. Joes. If that is the case Albertus wins by double digits. If they play in the 60s, then much closer game.
As of the saints; they have talent so I wouldn't be surprised if they are leading at the half. But, I think JWU is too experienced and athletic; therefore they win by 8 or so.
#1 Nichols loses on last second shot to # 8 UNE on last second 3 with 2 seconds left.. Watch the video
http://www.nicholsathletics.com/news/2015/2/24/MBB_0224155503.aspx
Three things:
1. UNE only has one highlight
2. The fans are into it
3. Not sure why they play the prom music over the highlights
Oh absolutely F2010, I certainly wouldn't want to risk it either. Every year it's the same thing and we just have to control our own destiny.
And yeah that student section for Nichols was great. Imagine if we still had that in our gym. It would be insanely loud!
First off, sorry for the delay... had to oversee a basketball double-header video production tonight... it is a busy time of year.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 25, 2015, 03:41:31 PM
Question Dave, I know the D3 tournament doesn't do say a 16 vs 1 match up in the first round numbers wise. I understand certainly the top teams tend to get a better opening pod draw but let's say for some crazy reason the Falcons slip up and do actually get a Pool C bid? Would they in return be likely placed in one of those "easier" opening pods? And by "easier" I mean easier for the higher seed or Pool A qualifier? Because I have to think any top team who would draw AMC in the opening round would be pretty nervous knowing that there not playing the typical sacrificial lamb if you will.
The committees try and put together as traditional a bracket as possible. They will want to have high-ranked teams play lower ranked ones and the middle ranked teams play each other on the opposite side of a bracket. It is only fair to do a bracket in that manner. However, so many factors can change that up including geography which keeps the perfect matchups from traveling to the right site(s). Ultimately, the host team is a high-ranked team and will get the "easier" (I agree, not the right word to use, but allows people to understand the anology) game while the other game will feature closer ranked teams.
This isn't a perfect example, but AMC versus WPI last year was a middle-ranked game while Hartwick vs Purchase would have been considered the home vs easy game. A better example would have been DeSales vs Randolph-Macon was the easy v hard game (with a big upset by DeSales) while Mary Washington v Springfield would have been the middle ranked teams. It isn't perfect, though, because in Virginia Wesleyan, while the Marlins were playing Johns Hopkins (who isn't in unless they upset Dickinson in the conference title game), Wesley and Alvernia are playing and honestly they shouldn't have seen each other in the first round. Hopkins also proved to be a test.
Again... not perfect, but that is the goal at least when they start bracketing and before geography and money play their role in everything. So back to your question, I think AMC as a Pool C is still a middle-ranked team and wouldn't necessarily draw a Babson, Stockton (which they won't for other reasons), Patterson, Hopkins, Randolph-Macon, etc. game... they would draw a Catholic, Bates, Amherst, E Conn, Baruch, Brooklyn- type teams (not sure who and I am just throwing names around). They could even get a team that is a surprise AQ from a lower conference if the committee feels it is the right match-up in the first round. They would then probably get one of the top ranked teams in the second round.
By the way, just because a team is a Pool A doesn't mean they are a high-seed either. The committee will determine that by rankings and criteria. We have had at or below .500 teams as AQs because they came out of nowhere.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 25, 2015, 03:41:31 PM
I especially hate using the word "easier" in this context especially the way this season has gone by. There Is nothing easy in D3 basketball this season. So many good teams the parity across the country is outstanding.
Especially this year... there really isn't going to be an "easy" game this year at any point. I also think a number of good teams are going to be left out of the tournament this year. It is just a deep, deep season.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 25, 2015, 03:41:31 PM
I only thought of this because in our first apperance of the Coach Oliver era in the NCAA tourney at William Patterson we were supposed to be there punching bag that year in the opening game before we pulled off arguably one of the biggest upsets and one of the best endings in the tournaments recent history and perhaps long history as well. That game still gives me goosebumps!!
Nothing against AMC's upset of William Paterson, but it won't come close to the upset by St. Mary's of Guilford in 2009. Or maybe even the upset of Goucher over Lebanon Valley in 1995. There are probably some others I can point to, but it is late. Yes, it was a big win and a big upset, but those other two were ultimate shockers.
Dave, thanks for the great information as usual!
Plus K!
Dunk Haven Tonight!
LilDave; the nest use to be like that; when our teams were 13-13.
Imagine if the same student body was there now: It would be the hottest ticket in New Haven!
Think the current students take this for granted. This senior class has won the GNAC every year they've been here. As much as we like to think so, this team isn't gonna be dominant forever. Heck, Williams is gonna go from the National runner up to not even making the tournament.
Let's go Falcons!!!!! DUNK HAVEN!!!!
This should be an excellent matchup. As a Falcon fan obviously I am taking the Falcons. I think this will be a fairly close game but in the end a late second half surge will carry the Falcons into the GNAC Finals against my other semi-final pick of Johnson and Wales (not a real shocker there). My final score prediction is AMC 84 St. Joes 71. In the other semi I will take JWU 89 Saints 68.
Us having to play St. Joes as opposed to JWU playing Emmanuel is far more beneficial to the Falcons in terms of preparing for the conference championship. I am a firm believer in the saying "if you want to be the best you have to beat the best" and with all do respect to Emmanuel, St. Joes is without doubt the superior team and provides more of a challenge which again will only benefit the Falcons going forward.
I hope the Falcons are hitting their stride! THAT'S THE 2ND HALF I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR!! How many times this season did I say, "we won by 25, but they outscored us by 2 in the second half?" A dominating 2nd half that closed the door minutes into the 2nd frame. A 30 point win and 81 points while going 2-16 from 3. That's outstanding. Hope the other Falcons fans who had a chance to actually watch the game can give some more insight. Bring on JWU!
Was at the game tonight, think i might have had the pleasure to meet junkie while there. Junkie, is your son a Bills fan?
On to the game. Crowd was ok, but no student section really. Sad, this team would have been unreal with the old student crowds. Anyhow, albertus totally turned it up defensively. Simonds is excellent, but Sledge and Sanders were hrrassing him all game, and in the second half tired legs showed this. lbertus ws just too good for st joes. they held them to 3 points to start the second half, for 10 or 12 mins. impressive. This team three point wise is not the same without jennings obv. Sanders played excellent today. ITs a give or take without jennings. the three point shot goes, but also not that many bad shots taken. IT is what it is. Saturday should be fun, JWU beat Rhode Island College, who is currently ranked high on the regional rankings. its a shame that the gnat is so bad, bc these two teams are top 5 in new england. JWU coming off an ecac tourney win last yr. Of course I'm going falcons, but JWU is certainly capable of pulling it off. 1 pm tip, can't wait!
Final Score JWU 77 - Emmanuel 43
Complete blowout, this was only a game for the first 11 minutes of the first half. From the 9 minute mark it was all JWU. The Saints found out very quickly that this was not Anna Maria they were playing. The JWU defense and transition game was clicking on all cylinders. They were moving the ball around with ease and many players were sharing in the offense. Garrick had 28 and Greenaway had 12, and 11 Wildcats got into the scoring column. The Saints big man was limited to 6 points but it was not entirely his fault. The Emmanuel guards were freezing him out of the game, jacking up perimeter shots without even looking to enter the ball to the low post. Not sure why that was allowed to happen? Saints looked sloppy again with 22 turnovers and only 9 assists.
Well, I guess half a game plan is better than no game plan at all. The Saints opened the game with a tight 3 - 2 zone with all 5 defenders below the arc, did not full court press, did not pick up JWU man to man. It was such a noticeable change from the last time the Saints played the Wildcats that even the JWU announcers were laughing about it. One of the announcers said " well this is the first time in 6 years that Coach Jackson hasn't tried to press the Wildcats, wonder what made him change his game plan? " Unfortunately, at the offensive end of the court it was the same old Saints, not running plays through, poor shot selection, quick shots one pass over half court, no low post touches, non shooters jacking up threes, guards racing down court and attacking the rim 1 on 3. The Saints offense was completely out of sync and they allowed the Wildcats defense to dictate the tempo of the game. Controlling tempo is even more important in a playoff game and the Saints made no attempt to do that. The Saints played so bad in this game that it made them look like they didn't belong in the conference semi finals. It really detracted from their upset win over Anna Maria. Too bad they could not take advantage of the momentum that they brought into this game with their surprise win over the 3 rd place team. Saints finish the season at 10 - 16, with only one upset win in the entire year.
GNACBballFan,
Sorry to say you didn't have the pleasure of sitting with me. ;D No Bills fans here.
Pure dominance by the Falcons in every aspect of the game. Defense was superb and as we all know if Coach Oliver can get these young men to buy into playing defense we are as tough a team there is in the country.
The Falcons came out hot, played great D in the opening minutes and then stopped for about a 10 minute span until an Oliver timeout and a few substitutions ratcheted the pressure back on to the Monks. That little time frame where we had this defensive lapse is concerning but we also have to keep in mind that Big Vic wasn't in the game for 90% of the first half including that stretch and Lemar dealt with some foul trouble too which limited his physicality.
The game Saturday should be a great one. It's extremely tough to beat a team as good as JWU is 3 times in one season but being at home at the Nest were these Falcons soar higher than anyone I think will be the biggest factor in this game. I know other posters like LilDave and Falcon2010 have said that the student section isn't like it used to be and I will agree with them on that but the overall crowd in general I thought was fantastic last night. Saturday is really going to be rocking and I am certain JWU is going to bring their fans. They always travel well!
If the Falcons turn in a defensive effort like they did last night against St. Joes I think we can punch our own ticket to the madness!!!!
D-Mac,
Will D3Hoops be sending out a broadcast team like last year and the year before? I forget who the play by play guy was last year but he was joined by the Head Coach of Suffolk. Will take Frank Rossi if you got him! That guy is outstanding! His call at Willy P was unbelievable and he was also at Purchase last season in the opening weekend POD if I recall as well.
I love my Falcons but the SID and Athletic Department have got to do something about the video feed for the games. I don't need a play by play guy; I know that's a lot more involved. All you have to do is provide a quality video stream with a student or volunteer who is competent enough to rotate the thing from end to end and place the view on the score board at timeouts and other long whistles. THAT'S IT!!!! This team is on the national scene now.......get your S**T together and buy a new camera (they are not that expensive anymore) and do something for these players, coaches and fans!! I think they have earned it!!
It wouldn't let me select/download an individual pic and maybe I'm being selfish but I want this back!! -
http://albertusfalcons.com/sports/mbkb/2009-10/photos/0001/index (http://albertusfalcons.com/sports/mbkb/2009-10/photos/0001/index)
Look at that student section! Right on the court, making life miserable for Emerson!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 27, 2015, 09:31:53 AM
D-Mac,
Will D3Hoops be sending out a broadcast team like last year and the year before? I forget who the play by play guy was last year but he was joined by the Head Coach of Suffolk. Will take Frank Rossi if you got him! That guy is outstanding! His call at Willy P was unbelievable and he was also at Purchase last season in the opening weekend POD if I recall as well.
I love my Falcons but the SID and Athletic Department have got to do something about the video feed for the games. I don't need a play by play guy; I know that's a lot more involved. All you have to do is provide a quality video stream with a student or volunteer who is competent enough to rotate the thing from end to end and place the view on the score board at timeouts and other long whistles. THAT'S IT!!!! This team is on the national scene now.......get your S**T together and buy a new camera (they are not that expensive anymore) and do something for these players, coaches and fans!! I think they have earned it!!
I believe Frank is planning to be there as I have been asked to setup the video link to broadcast. Details to come.
As for their feed, I know a guy who consults with schools on this kind of thing - me! Happy to provide my services... though certainly not for free. :) However, I currently work with three schools and the list is growing :)
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2015, 10:06:19 AM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 27, 2015, 09:31:53 AM
D-Mac,
Will D3Hoops be sending out a broadcast team like last year and the year before? I forget who the play by play guy was last year but he was joined by the Head Coach of Suffolk. Will take Frank Rossi if you got him! That guy is outstanding! His call at Willy P was unbelievable and he was also at Purchase last season in the opening weekend POD if I recall as well.
I love my Falcons but the SID and Athletic Department have got to do something about the video feed for the games. I don't need a play by play guy; I know that's a lot more involved. All you have to do is provide a quality video stream with a student or volunteer who is competent enough to rotate the thing from end to end and place the view on the score board at timeouts and other long whistles. THAT'S IT!!!! This team is on the national scene now.......get your S**T together and buy a new camera (they are not that expensive anymore) and do something for these players, coaches and fans!! I think they have earned it!!
I believe Frank is planning to be there as I have been asked to setup the video link to broadcast. Details to come.
As for their feed, I know a guy who consults with schools on this kind of thing - me! Happy to provide my services... though certainly not for free. :) However, I currently work with three schools and the list is growing :)
Yeah the current set-up is like, one of those mini Sony cameras they give to Video Production I students to sign out for projects. No commentary, which isn't a huge deal but at least find a student/voulnteer/monkey who keeps up with the play. They don't adjust to where the ball is in relationship to the court either. For example if the balls on the far sideline, pan up a bit so you're not cutting their heads off. It's just left and right and sometimes they don't even go far enough where you can see the nearside corner. A couple games you couldn't even see the hoop!
From the Albertus website:
For those who cannot make the contest, D3hoops.com will provide a live webcast of the game as veteran college basketball broadcaster Ted Sarandis will be on play-by-play and Suffolk University head coach Adam Nelson will serve as an analyst.
Same pair that did the game last year.
This is essentially the First round of the NCAA tournament as the winner will play next week and the loser won't.
Possibly. Albertus may still get in
Not sure if the Eastern loss helps or hurts us in terms of the RR.
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 27, 2015, 07:09:13 PM
Possibly. Albertus may still get in
Considering their SOS... don't bet on it. They only saving grace may be it is only their second loss... but Staten Island stayed at the table for 19 rounds last year with three losses and a similar SOS. Plus the fact, it just got harder to get to the table in the NE as Eastern Connecticut will be ahead of AMC along with a couple of others.
Quote from: lildave678 on February 27, 2015, 07:15:10 PM
Not sure if the Eastern loss helps or hurts us in terms of the RR.
More then likely hurts since Eastern will still be ahead of them.
I don't think they get in Ferraro....But, as you know I have been wrong before.
They prob won't and it'll be a shame if not. Just makes zero sense to me. They should be a shoe in. Yea I get all these SOS numbers and what not, but Albertus is a top team this region and nation. Anyone who has seen them plays knows this
Beating a dead horse I know
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 27, 2015, 11:01:29 PM
They prob won't and it'll be a shame if not. Just makes zero sense to me. They should be a shoe in. Yea I get all these SOS numbers and what not, but Albertus is a top team this region and nation. Anyone who has seen them plays knows this
Listen... we all understand that... but this isn't about the eye test. Good teams get left out of the D1 tournament all of the time (and I am not talking about from the power conferences) and even in professional ranks (i.e. Carolina winning the NFC South). The criteria is the criteria and that is all that really batters.
AMC needs to do more than always risk their season on the WL% and winning the AQ. We have heard it time and time again... no one will play them. They need to do something to change that. Whether it is look to other conferences and teams to play, find the money to travel to things like the Hoopsville Classic and D3hoops.com Classic, or figure out what it is about them that causes teams/coaches not to schedule them. Who knows what the answer is... but clearly in the last few years AMC hasn't figure that aspect out quite enough (this year bad luck with Purchase - but that is one game, there needs to be more).
Now, Mitch Oliver is on the Northeast RAC this year. That gives him about four years if he stays on it to understand and maybe work with other coaches to improve things. I have heard they have a couple of good opponents next year, but who knows if those come through. What I am trying to get at... almost every coach I have seen serve on a RAC has almost immediately changed how they schedule - even those who don't have great teams. Hopefully, by getting an inside look at how this all works, Oliver will have a better understanding of what he and his team needs to do... because clearly the conference isn't going to improve enough to help AMC... it has to be on AMC to improve their out-of-conference.
#6 ranked teams don't get left out, or have a chance to be left out in other divisions, if we are gonna compare. It's stupid. Staten Island shoulda got in last yr. they won their ecac tourney I'm pretty sure last year. it is what it is
Well Stevenson won their ECAC tourney... but since the best of the rest don't always compete in those and it isn't like the NIT (the ECAC is two games over a weekend and there isn't a signla champ)... that isn't a good comparison.
I agree, the #7 shouldn't be left out on the ground they are that highly ranked in a Top 25 poll - but you will be searching for a very long time before you find where the Top 25 has anything to do with NCAA criteria in any division (though, I always suspect there is a D2 sport I am forgetting)... but they have to help themselves... they aren't doing that.
By the way... there is a chance they get in as an at-large despite the SOS. There is always a chance and it shouldn't be ignored. It is just a tough chance.
By the way... #14 Capital was left out of the NCAA tournament in 2002, though they had a few more losses. Pat reminds me Capital ended up #8 in the final poll!
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 27, 2015, 11:01:29 PM
They prob won't and it'll be a shame if not. Just makes zero sense to me. They should be a shoe in. Yea I get all these SOS numbers and what not, but Albertus is a top team this region and nation. Anyone who has seen them plays knows this
If they're the best team in the region, they won't lose tomorrow. Plain and simple.
I was thinking the same thing listening to Dave talk on Hoopsville about how Albertus wouldn't want the home game Thursday since they might have to play Randolph Macon in the second round. I don't think Albertus is scared of anybody - nor do I think they should be.
Well honestly, my point was they deserve a better road in the tournament than through the best team possible (based on geographical limitations) in the first or second round is what I was getting at - just not saying as well.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 28, 2015, 01:34:20 AM
Well honestly, my point was they deserve a better road in the tournament than through the best team possible (based on geographical limitations) in the first or second round is what I was getting at - just not saying as well.
True enough, although I really think those guys could care less. I don't know if they'll win, but they're certainly good enough to beat anyone.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 28, 2015, 01:32:44 AM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 27, 2015, 11:01:29 PM
They prob won't and it'll be a shame if not. Just makes zero sense to me. They should be a shoe in. Yea I get all these SOS numbers and what not, but Albertus is a top team this region and nation. Anyone who has seen them plays knows this
If they're the best team in the region, they won't lose tomorrow. Plain and simple.
I was thinking the same thing listening to Dave talk on Hoopsville about how Albertus wouldn't want the home game Thursday since they might have to play Randolph Macon in the second round. I don't think Albertus is scared of anybody - nor do I think they should be.
Hoops I'm usually in agreement with you. But not on this one. JWU is a solid team no matter how good Albertus is. One loss doesn't erase everything else they've done this year. well only to the PPP that matter, the selection committee
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 28, 2015, 12:34:30 AM
Well Stevenson won their ECAC tourney... but since the best of the rest don't always compete in those and it isn't like the NIT (the ECAC is two games over a weekend and there isn't a signla champ)... that isn't a good comparison.
I agree, the #7 shouldn't be left out on the ground they are that highly ranked in a Top 25 poll - but you will be searching for a very long time before you find where the Top 25 has anything to do with NCAA criteria in any division (though, I always suspect there is a D2 sport I am forgetting)... but they have to help themselves... they aren't doing that.
By the way... there is a chance they get in as an at-large despite the SOS. There is always a chance and it shouldn't be ignored. It is just a tough chance.
By the way... #14 Capital was left out of the NCAA tournament in 2002, though they had a few more losses. Pat reminds me Capital ended up #8 in the final poll!
Although my opinion has been voiced, basically Albertus needs to just get it done and win later today! I get it, I'm just stubborn.
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 28, 2015, 03:07:40 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 28, 2015, 01:32:44 AM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on February 27, 2015, 11:01:29 PM
They prob won't and it'll be a shame if not. Just makes zero sense to me. They should be a shoe in. Yea I get all these SOS numbers and what not, but Albertus is a top team this region and nation. Anyone who has seen them plays knows this
If they're the best team in the region, they won't lose tomorrow. Plain and simple.
I was thinking the same thing listening to Dave talk on Hoopsville about how Albertus wouldn't want the home game Thursday since they might have to play Randolph Macon in the second round. I don't think Albertus is scared of anybody - nor do I think they should be.
Hoops I'm usually in agreement with you. But not on this one. JWU is a solid team no matter how good Albertus is. One loss doesn't erase everything else they've done this year. well only to the PPP that matter, the selection committee
They're a great team, but with the losses they've suffered, they need to beat Albertus at least once to prove something.
A few hours away. Very excited for the game.
These teams play each other tough; they have a lot of veterans and guts. Single possession game both times.
Quarry had foul trouble both games, Albertus was outrebounded both games. I would like to see the refs let them play a little. I think Saunders will be the difference; Albertus needs to shoot 40% from behind the arc today.
Let's go Falcons!
Dunk Haven baby!
Can easily sat I'm no less nervous today than I was at the first title of this run way back when against Emerson. If I recall didn't we split with them that season and then wrecked them in the Nest for the title? Hopefully it's a similar outcome today - two close regular season games and then the Nest gets to JWU!
Yeah just went back and looked, we each won on the road - Emerson beat us by 1 and we beat them by 2.
Today is the day!!!!!! Lets go Falcons!!!! You have worked too damn hard to let anyone take this from you!!! This is going to be a fantastic game!!! The crowd will be nuts. It's a white out so make sure you wear white!!!!
Dunk Haven!!!! WhiteOut The Wildcats!!!
Someone should make a sign "If your at The Nest it's too late".......yes guys I know Drake.......But only because of College Gameday LOL and I certainly won't be the one with the sign.
Albertus is at their best when they stuff the ball into Vic. However, from the first two minutes of this game, it's very clear that's a bad idea against J&W - at least until they're in a little more foul trouble. #shoottheball
Greenway just got his third foul in the first half. This game is over.
Hey, so watching this game - why couldn't Albertus line up a few rows of chairs behind the benches to add capacity? It seems like there's plenty of space there - even bring in a small set of bleachers or something.
Well, it seems all our arguments were for naught. Albertus wins (or at least they will in 20 seconds).
I've never seen a human jump over another on an alley oop in person. That's all I have to say about the game...
Just kidding, once I get home I'll post my thoughts! Go Falcons!
HoopsFan, very deceiving behind the benches. Not enough room at all to put bleachers behind there. It would be to tight. Ill be back later to post my thoughts on an outstanding victory!!
Dunk Haven!!!
Hoops, not enough room behind the benches. Albertus needs more bleachers on the opposite side of the benches. It is a very tight seating area.
Good game; I am so impressed with the JWU coach. He is so calm. His team takes on his personality. They don't give in, they don't rush shots, they don't panic. Albertus should have been up 20+ multiple times. But, 5 minutes left, it is a 7 point game. Biggest play of the game, came at the 4 minute mark. Albertus was up 8, and Lewis had a wide open look at a three. Closer guy to him was sitting in the stands. He missed the shot, Albertus secured the rebound and JWU never got within 8 the rest of the game.
I was with F13; and we both looked at each other and said, JWU will be tough to beat next year. Talented, Senior team.
Congrats to Coach Oliver and the rest of the Albertus Falcons.
Larsen wins 4 GNAC titles in 4 years and Julian wins 4 in 5 years. Congrats!
As much as I love the Falcons, JWU has to be the runaway favorite next year. Basically the whole team returns whereas we graduate our (current) starting 5.
This was clearly a game of similar styles. Both teams wanna take the ball out of the hoop and go. Albertus took an 8 point lead into half and that was without Eian for most of the half. JWU kept it within that 6-10 range for most of the 2nd half but today at least, Albertus seemed to find an answer - none bigger than the alley oop where Big Vic jumped over a JWU defender (not one of their little guys mind you), and completed the dunk while getting the "foul." I've never seen anything like that in person. Hopefully d3hoops and/or the sportzedge have that highlight soon enough.
As far as the game otherwise, if our starters stay out of foul trouble we're as good as anyone in the country and credit goes to JWU. I honestly hope they get the recognition they deserve next year because that team is going to be something to watch. I'm not sure which player it was but one of their guys dunked all over Vic on one play, too bad it was a 12 point game at the time...but it was a preview of what they can do next year. Don't be surprised if JWU is ranked next year. Big props to Walters and Perez at the end of the first half. Lex had a great couple of possessions defensively despite being physically outmatched and you can see Walters will be a problem next year if he can find some vision. If he has someone smaller on him it's game over. The problem is when he thinks he can get to the hoop, he hasn't shown he can dish yet. I think that will come with time.
Same story, Albertus needs to win to ensure a tourney spot and they never disappoint in front of the home fans. On to the selection show!
Obviously we will all be biased so I'm curious if Hoops Fan can give a full take on the game? Always nice to read a more objective report as this was our closest (home) final since we've started winning.
Great post Dave. Is this game gonna be able to be watched from the archives?
http://sportzedge.com/2015/02/28/albertus-magnus-wins-gnac-tourney-ncaa-tourney-next/
I can only hope the archive has the view from above. It's the 2nd to last dunk.
Game is already uploaded to YouTube!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUsI_EfiqJQ
Finally have time to reflect on the great win yesterday!!! So relaxing to know that we punched our own ticket and didn't have to sit and wait on the bubble. My guess is we would have been left out especially after the Eastern CT loss and what's going on in the NESCAC right now!
First off I have to echo the same words that Falcons2010 and LilDave already mentioned.....this JWU team is going to be very good next season. They should be the conference favorites to start the season as long as they bring everybody back. With what Albertus is losing (basically everybody) JWU should have a very good shot at getting back to the conference championship game. With that said I think we also should keep in mind that we all know what kind of recruiter Coach Oliver is. You know he is going to bring in some impactful JUCO players again along with some very good players returning like Jaquan Walters who is a future star, Marc Wilson, and both Chaunce Dunbar and Lex Perez who look like very good prospects. Not to mention James Jennings, yes he was booted off the team this year but he was a junior and if he can somehow get his head on straight and act right he can come back. That being said whether Oliver takes him back is another story, Oliver has a no BS policy and he really doesn't care who you are, you follow the rules or you don't play and I think that is a great thing!
On to the game, I can't say enough about this group!!! Sledge was on another level, clearly the best player on the court and when he can pull up and hit the 15-20 foot jumper like he was doing yesterday himself and us as a team are almost unstoppable. Big Vic had a tremendous game, 1 block shy of a triple double and I almost thought they should have gotten him more touches and he still bangs out 24 points and grabs 17 boards. Kids a beast thats all there is to it. Eian played well, had a few turnovers that were very bad but at this point we almost have to accept that because he is just so fast and wants to go go go. He is such a true point guard, he is so fun to watch. He loves sharing the ball with his teammates and when he picked up the 2 fouls quick yesterday and sat almost the whole 1st half I knew he was going to come out in the 2nd like a bat out of hell!!!
Julian Sanders, he was a bit off yesterday and found himself in foul trouble (a couple in which were highly questionable) but still he is a senior who contributes in a lot of ways and will continue to contribute in the NCAA tournament. He will be a key player if we want to make a run! 4 Championships for him in 5 year!!!
Lemar Larsen!!! I love this kid. He is the definition of a professional. Such a hard worker, gets banged around and knocked around all day yesterday and you never see him complain about a thing. His postgame interview was impressive as well. Such a great kid, very respectful and plays the game right. He is a rebounding machine with a great ability to finish a lot of shots underneath. Not to mention this stat line; for his career he has won 4 straight conference championship and I think they said 58-1 at home in 4 years. WOW, this couldn't have happened to a better kid!
Who knows where we are heading now?? Looking forward to tonight's broadcast of Hoopsville where Pat Coleman and Dave McHugh are going to give their best crack at where they think every team is going to end up!! Selection Monday is set for 12:30 tomorrow afternoon!!!
Dunk Haven!!! 4Peat!!!! Let's Go Falcons!!! We aren't done yet!!!
Congrats to the Albertus fans. Scoring 98 points and beating a very good JWU team was impressive. Your big time players really stepped up when they were needed. They kept JWU from putting any sustained run together. Well deserved win. Thanks to live stream it was possible to watch the GNAC championship along with some other games across the country. There were some really good championship games on this weekend. Richard Stocken won their game over William Patterson, Neumann beat Cabrini, Scranton beat Catholic, Alvernia beat Stevenson, Salisbury beat Chris Newport, Endicott beat Wentworth, St John Fisher beat Alfred. It was tough keeping up with all the championship games but someone had to do it. Good Luck in the NCAA tournament, should be full of good teams. Just hope all the live stream videos in the tournament are free.
Saint, from what I remember they are free. Just watched Weselyan beat amherst in ot. What a weekend of bball.
Despite the lost of Jennings and Wiggins; this is Mitch's best team. Hard to believe how good this team is compared to the 2009 team that made the NCAAs. Let's look at the rosters quickly.
2009 2015
Lora C Vic
Askew F Larsen
Reaves F Sanders
St. Juste G Sledge
Alex M. G Davis
Key Reserves Key Reserves
Jimmy E Walters
Sweeney Walker
Armstrong Wilson
Mike Torres Dunbar
Arshad Jackson Perez
Big difference.... Imagine Jennings and Wiggins...
I will have more post once the opponent is reveal. But, for those of us who are optimist about next weekend; I think we should be. Since, we basically thought the 2009 team was going to the final four.
I think it was the 2012 team we had high hopes of, not 08. We were just glad to make the tourney in 09/10
2012 team
C - lora
F - askew
F - watson
G - dugas
G - jackson
Reserves
Jimmy E
Sweeney
Larsen
Sanders (was injured)
Still a big difference right?
Am I missing anyone?
Falcons2010.......Your forgetting Spencer Smith if I recall. That kid would have been a hell of a player but he was dismissed from the team after that season I believe for academic reasons. He contributed quite a bit during the season of 2011-2012.
It really is amazing to compare these teams to each other and the difference in overall level of play and ability.
Interesting Guys!!
Pat and Dave have us traveling to Rochester NY in the St. Johns Fisher POD to take on Calvin in the opening weekend. I actually think this would be a pretty favorable draw if this were to happen. As great as Pat and Dave are, you still can't bet on any of this going the way they see it even though year after year their projected bracket is always put together better than the NCAA suits who do it.
I think their Pool C teams are spot on. Very much like ESPN's Joe Lunardi, Pat and Dave can pick the entire field 99.9% of the time but actually deciding where they go in the bracket is always a crapshoot. Still very fun to observe and certainly holds you over until 12:30 as I am already googleing (is that a word?) stats for Calvin, Regis and St. Johns Fisher in the work place.
March is clearly the most unproductive work month of the year and I wouldn't want it any other way
DunkHaven!!!!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 02, 2015, 06:54:38 AM
Interesting Guys!!
Pat and Dave have us traveling to Rochester NY in the St. Johns Fisher POD to take on Calvin in the opening weekend. I actually think this would be a pretty favorable draw if this were to happen. As great as Pat and Dave are, you still can't bet on any of this going the way they see it even though year after year their projected bracket is always put together better than the NCAA suits who do it.
I think their Pool C teams are spot on. Very much like ESPN's Joe Lunardi, Pat and Dave can pick the entire field 99.9% of the time but actually deciding where they go in the bracket is always a crapshoot. Still very fun to observe and certainly holds you over until 12:30 as I am already googleing (is that a word?) stats for Calvin, Regis and St. Johns Fisher in the work place.
March is clearly the most unproductive work month of the year and I wouldn't want it any other way
DunkHaven!!!!
Just so you know, Dave went to bed after they picked the women's field - I stayed up with Pat to do the bracket (we finished at 1:48pm EST). I'm not sure the committee will appreciate our creativity though. I almost always like the d3hoops.com projection better than the actual bracket.
Plus K to you then HoopsFan! If I knew that was the case I would have included you in the post! I was listening to the show last night too and I knew Dave said he was going to bed, I just assumed he contributed in some way to it. He needed his beauty sleep ;D. He's getting a lot of face time today!! And I think it is great that the NCAA finally realized that you guys at D3Hoops.com actually know what you're doing and put someone on to reveal the bracket who has more knowledge about D3 Hoops then they ever will begin to know.
Hopefully they let Dave have some freedom today. Maybe let him talk about some teams and matchups. Make it more interesting. As much as I tune in to watch it, all they ever do is run down the list and its over in about 10 minutes. Make it more interesting for these student athletes!! They deserve it!! Even though there probably all supposed to be in class during the reveal LOL lets add some more detail to it.
In the end I am sure the NCAA won't let Dave have any fun with it but at least getting Dave in is certainly a step in the right direction!!!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 02, 2015, 08:49:40 AM
Plus K to you then HoopsFan! If I knew that was the case I would have included you in the post! I was listening to the show last night too and I knew Dave said he was going to bed, I just assumed he contributed in some way to it. He needed his beauty sleep ;D. He's getting a lot of face time today!! And I think it is great that the NCAA finally realized that you guys at D3Hoops.com actually know what you're doing and put someone on to reveal the bracket who has more knowledge about D3 Hoops then they ever will begin to know.
Hopefully they let Dave have some freedom today. Maybe let him talk about some teams and matchups. Make it more interesting. As much as I tune in to watch it, all they ever do is run down the list and its over in about 10 minutes. Make it more interesting for these student athletes!! They deserve it!! Even though there probably all supposed to be in class during the reveal LOL lets add some more detail to it.
In the end I am sure the NCAA won't let Dave have any fun with it but at least getting Dave in is certainly a step in the right direction!!!
I was already looking at mileage and trying to do a bracket on my own, so it was easier to help. Besides, this kind of thing is right up my alley - I love puzzles and maps and I'm kind of OCD. If it weren't so late, I'd probably try and fix it a little to make sectionals easier, but then I remember, this isn't the real bracket and it will mean absolutely nothing in ten hours.
Albertus gets it's 2nd NEWMAC team in the first round in as many years playing Springfield at Dickinson College in Carlisle, PA. Dickinson plays Regis in the other game. Thoughts to come! Hopefully WPI (who's own team got in) can give us some insight on this matchup!
I don't know how well Albertus matches up with Springfield, but if they make the second round, they're a great match-up for Dickinson. Gerry Wixted is the big force for the Red Devils, a big guy with athleticism and speed. Vic is probably one of the few big men in the country who can match him in size and speed. That'll be a premier matchup is Albertus can get passed Springfield.
Yeah at first glance Albertus seems to match up well with Springfield. One guy runs 6'7 and then no one taller than 6'4 gets significant minutes. They only score 69 a game so Albertus usually does well against teams that are defensive minded. It's when we get in track meets with teams who are as capable on offense as us (IE, Williams last year) that we have some trouble.
I didn't want to look ahead but yeah that kid looks like a stud. Dickinson is very long, going 6'10, 6'8, and 6'7 across the front line. Both guards are over 6'2 IIRC as well. Are you saying IT'S a great matchup in general (Vic vs Wixted, the two teams themselves, etc) or are you saying it's a great matchup FOR us because we have someone who can neutralize Wixted?
Quote from: lildave678 on March 02, 2015, 01:40:52 PM
Yeah at first glance Albertus seems to match up well with Springfield. One guy runs 6'7 and then no one taller than 6'4 gets significant minutes. They only score 69 a game so Albertus usually does well against teams that are defensive minded. It's when we get in track meets with teams who are as capable on offense as us (IE, Williams last year) that we have some trouble.
I didn't want to look ahead but yeah that kid looks like a stud. Dickinson is very long, going 6'10, 6'8, and 6'7 across the front line. Both guards are over 6'2 IIRC as well. Are you saying IT'S a great matchup in general (Vic vs Wixted, the two teams themselves, etc) or are you saying it's a great matchup FOR us because we have someone who can neutralize Wixted?
I've seen Dickinson twice this year, including last weekend. They're super disciplined, which will be interesting for the decidedly undisciplined Albertus - but I hesitate to talk too much about it until the Friday games are over.
I hear you there! Springfield comes first.
Very interesting matchups for Magnus. Last year WPI came somewhat limpin into the tourney and gave Magnus their A game at Purchase. Magnus I thought had spurts of A game as well - but clearly would have won that matchup 7+ times out of 10.
I think this year's Springfield team is similar to last year's WPI team. I just think it will be hard for them to score enough to compete.
I am also very familiar with Dickinson and think that could potentially be the best round of 32 matchup out there!
I will also refrain from any talk about it until after the game is set up.
New to the board, but I have been following the Gnac thread for a very long time. I think Magnus has a tough bracket! The good thing is that they have the ability to win tough/close games, unlike last year and the year when Askew was an senior (expection was the NCAAs and SUNY reg seasons game) the 2012 and 2014 team kind of just blew past the reg season and Gnac playoffs. This team is battle tested. I seen Springfield twice this year. They are tough.. defends pretty well the games I seen.
Albertus cannot defend for 35 seconds possession for 40 mins, they play great defensive for about 20 seconds and about 15 mins a game, thank God for Vic and his backline defense. Offense tho.. is there any question that Oliver is one the best in the country. I played against Magnus a couple years back... they always run their sets and they work, and they have good enough players that when it breaks down, they can score. THEY WILL MISS JENNINGS... Hes a BIG BIG BIG piece for a small player. He hit a big 3 against either WPI or SUNY last year. Kid is clutch ! excited
Quote from: WPI89 on March 02, 2015, 04:02:45 PM
Very interesting matchups for Magnus. Last year WPI came somewhat limpin into the tourney and gave Magnus their A game at Purchase. Magnus I thought had spurts of A game as well - but clearly would have won that matchup 7+ times out of 10.
I think this year's Springfield team is similar to last year's WPI team. I just think it will be hard for them to score enough to compete.
I am also very familiar with Dickinson and think that could potentially be the best round of 32 matchup out there!
I will also refrain from any talk about it until after the game is set up.
Yeah, I'm salivating about that one. I think those are both top ten teams - it could easily be an elite eight matchup.
Quote from: Gnacalum2323 on March 02, 2015, 05:15:38 PM
New to the board, but I have been following the Gnac thread for a very long time. I think Magnus has a tough bracket! The good thing is that they have the ability to win tough/close games, unlike last year and the year when Askew was an senior (expection was the NCAAs and SUNY reg seasons game) the 2012 and 2014 team kind of just blew past the reg season and Gnac playoffs. This team is battle tested. I seen Springfield twice this year. They are tough.. defends pretty well the games I seen.
Albertus cannot defend for 35 seconds possession for 40 mins, they play great defensive for about 20 seconds and about 15 mins a game, thank God for Vic and his backline defense. Offense tho.. is there any question that Oliver is one the best in the country. I played against Magnus a couple years back... they always run their sets and they work, and they have good enough players that when it breaks down, they can score. THEY WILL MISS JENNINGS... Hes a BIG BIG BIG piece for a small player. He hit a big 3 against either WPI or SUNY last year. Kid is clutch ! excited
Great post, spot on. Jennings was so key to this team.
Gnacalum; you are right. Jennings hit a big 3 abd had s big steal vs WPI. If he is on this team, I think Albertus makes a big run. Now, not sure. Really tough pod. Springfield is well coached and will slow the game down.
Will be a tough matchup.
Springfield presents an interesting challenge to the Falcons because as already mentioned they are well coached and pretty disciplined.
They will walk the ball up the court and use a burner office (similar to Mike Brey's style at Notre Dame) with the hopes of limiting the Falcons transition offense and making us play in the half court set. However if this is the case I am more than fine with that. When we run our half-court offense everything runs through Big Vic and there is not a single player on the Springfield roster that can physically or talent wise match up with Victor in the post. I think they would be reluctant to throw double teams at him like how our fellow GNAC opponents do because the zone can break down and Vic is excellent at finding the open cutters to the basket.
I also think Lemar Larsen will be the difference maker in this game. He has an excellent jump shot from the elbow/foul line area and as we know that area and the baseline are considered the "soft" spots of a zone. All I want Lemar to do is turn when he receives the pass and either shoot or dribble dump off underneath to Vic or a cutting guard. Lemar has been hesitating a little with the ball in his hands as of late. He needs to be more decisive.
Julian needs to shoot the ball better. Plain and simple if we want to go on a deep run. He is so talented and athletic it's scary but he just needs to shoot the ball at a higher percentage. I have faith in Julian, he is not afraid to take the big shot.
Eian and Sledge will do their thing. I think this is going to be a special tournament for these two great players if they can work together and keep their emotions in check. They need to be mentally into the game for the entire 40 minutes. Play smart and play together. No one can stop these two.
Marcus Walker needs to step up as well. REBOUND Marcus!!! That's it!! That's all we need you to do. Hit the boards hard and fight for every loose ball. Marcus is a professional; I know he will do all these things. A very polite and hardworking player who will do anything to help his team win.
A BRIGHT BRIGHT look into the future. Jaquan Walters will be a player to watch. He will be getting significant minutes in this tournament and for a true freshman I can't believe the amount of talent this young kid has at his age. So physically gifted with the ability to dribble and understand the offense. He needs to improve his free throw shooting A LOT but at 6'6 when this kid takes the ball to the rack he is very hard to stop.
I can't wait till Friday!!! Does anyone know when the team is leaving? These kids must be so amped up right now!! Hopefully they have a good broadcast feed at Dickinson College. PLEASEEEEEEE!!!! Maybe someone can weigh in on how their video feed is their. (Cough Cough Hoops Fan)
Dunk Haven!!
Dickinson's regular season broadcasts are top quality - graphics - good camera angles and a VERY excited student announcer. So I know the equipment is there for a great broadcast. No idea how that translates to the tournament feed?
Awesome WPI89......thats great!! What connection do you have to Dickinson? Just intrigued by their program this year or years past?
Also, does the NCAA have any say over the video feed that the schools put on for broadcasting the games? If they are of poor quality do they step in and send a crew? Do they do this anyway to makes sure the games are done properly during the tournament. I know the NCAA likes to oversee and micromanage everything but I wasn't sure to the extent of it for the D3 tourney?
Junkie - I had a nephew play hoops at Dickinson 5 years or so ago - so they are always on my radar - this year I would pop in just to watch Wixted.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 04, 2015, 11:19:20 AM
Also, does the NCAA have any say over the video feed that the schools put on for broadcasting the games? If they are of poor quality do they step in and send a crew? Do they do this anyway to makes sure the games are done properly during the tournament. I know the NCAA likes to oversee and micromanage everything but I wasn't sure to the extent of it for the D3 tourney?
The NCAA has say over it but doesn't exercise it at the D-III level. There are some minimum standards schools need to have to put on broadcasts but the NCAA doesn't really enforce them.
We actually try to step in and help schools out where they have issues. We're more likely to do that the second weekend, where there are fewer sites.
Quote from: WPI89 on March 04, 2015, 11:25:39 AM
Junkie - I had a nephew play hoops at Dickinson 5 years or so ago - so they are always on my radar - this year I would pop in just to watch Wixted.
Big time +1 for this! Love fans who do this -- it's great for Division III.
Quote from: WPI89 on March 04, 2015, 11:25:39 AM
Junkie - I had a nephew play hoops at Dickinson 5 years or so ago - so they are always on my radar - this year I would pop in just to watch Wixted.
They're an overall impressive team. They've had a tendency to play to their competition this year, thus the unexpected losses, but I do think they'll show up when it matters. They were on form in the conference tournament last weekend. It's a strong team, super well coached. They've got a 6'7" guard, Ted Hinnekamp who's a huge matchup problem for most d3 teams and a streaky shooter - Angradi, also tall and can be lights out if he's on (or virtually invisible if he's not) - they've also got a 6'11" who's not a world beater, but a solid player (and tall) - that's before getting to Wixted, likely a first team All-American.
I really like this team (if you couldn't tell), but they've also had some really rough, scary moments. Not unlike another team they might get in the second round. Dickinson and Albertus are probably my two favorite teams to watch this year. They better not screw up and lose before they get to play each other. Whoever wins that game is my pick to get to Salem from that quadrant.
Good stuff guys!! Thanks everyone!
Some thoughts on the GNAC all conference. Would have liked to see Eian Davis and Steve Simonds tie for the fifth spot on first team. They both deserved to be on first team. Nothing wrong with having six players on first team if they all earned it, which they did. Glad to see Emmanuel's big man Davis and Lasell's Marchand along with the Amcats Bradanese all make second team, well deserved. Thought JWU's Robert Lewis should have tied someone for second team, he probably deserved second team. Also, Anna Maria's Delorey should have been on third team, tied with someone, he had a good year for the AMcats and they did have 12 conference wins. Too bad he wasn't recognized. The other selections all look pretty good.
Had to laugh to myself at the Saints SID announcement of Davis making second team all conference. They made a big deal out his leading the team in scoring and rebounding and completing five double - doubles, but then also mention that he started only 20 of 26 games for the Saints this year. That is due to that crazy rotating starting lineup that the coach uses giving everyone a chance to be in the starting lineup. Must keep the other GNAC coaches on their toes to constantly update their scouting reports on the Saints. Oh well, there is always next year.
Saint, couldn't agree more with your above post. Other than you leaving out the biggest snub of them all!!! How in the name of all things holy does Mitch Oliver not get COY??? Are these other Coaches who vote really that jealous and envious of him and the Falcons at this point? I just don't understand how a Coach can go undefeated in the conference regular season, run the table in the GNAC tourney and win the league and not be named COY. Just complete lack of respect. Here is a novel idea......how about the other coaches in this conference step up and beat the Falcons? Someone do it.....Go out and beat them and then you don't have to vote for him. Pretty straight forward....No? I know it's not politically correct to have a coach win the award year after year but he hasn't been crowned GNAC COY in a couple seasons if I recall and for him to not get it this year is just absurd.
Conrad gets it from Anna Maria??? Are you kidding me??? What did he do? He beat JWU once on there home court. Big Deal! The Falcons and Coach Oliver did that three times. I'm not saying he isn't a good coach because I believe he is.....I think he is a great motivator and is very passionate but he did not deserve this award over Coach Oliver and everything Albertus Magnus accomplished this season.
I'm starting to understand why the GNAC in terms of men's basketball is considered the bottom feeders of D3.
Deep down these Coaches know their wrong but they let jealousy affect their vote.
The most amusing part to me is that I'm sure their all probably laughing to themselves thinking they stuck it to Oliver but I can assure you after having a few conversations with Mitch Oliver (none pertaining to this topic) he could care less about this award and what other coaches in the league think of him. He is too busy preparing for his 4th consecutive NCAA tournament!
That's it I'm done with my tangent. Nobody likes you when you're on top
As always Dunk Haven!
Wouldn't that be really upsetting to the GNAC coaches if Oliver wins the national COY but not in his own conference? At 27 - 1 he must be under consideration for national COY. At least that is something the Saints fans don't have to worry about at any time in the near future!
Quote from: Saint-Paul on March 04, 2015, 01:37:13 PM
Wouldn't that be really upsetting to the GNAC coaches if Oliver wins the national COY but not in his own conference? At 27 - 1 he must be under consideration for national COY. At least that is something the Saints fans don't have to worry about at any time in the near future!
He's not winning COY unless they win the title.
HoopsFan, He was already named a finalist for National COY in years past and if you look at his body of work and what he has done at Albertus Magnus from Day 1 building this program into a nationally relevant team, I think an argument can be easily made for Oliver even without a National Championship. Certainly a deep run would help. If they got to the Elite 8 or Final Four I think you would be hard pressed to not seriously seriously consider him as the National COY. Look at Albertus's record before Oliver stepped in and look at it now. This is one of the biggest turnarounds of a college program at the D3 level in the last 10 years. EASILY! Look at the school, the location, the size of enrollment, all these factors. It's really unbelievable when you look at it. This guy is one of the hardest working Coaches in the country. Not to mention a top tier recruiter and an outstanding X's and O's guy as well. He deserves it!!!
It is the biggest turn around in all of d3 basketball in the last ten years. I don't even need do look that one up
Saint, you have been spot on with your analysis all year long. If I could 1K you, I would.. I agree with your assessment of the post season awards. Congrats to the student-athletes who were recognized!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 04, 2015, 07:21:08 PM
HoopsFan, He was already named a finalist for National COY in years past and if you look at his body of work and what he has done at Albertus Magnus from Day 1 building this program into a nationally relevant team, I think an argument can be easily made for Oliver even without a National Championship. Certainly a deep run would help. If they got to the Elite 8 or Final Four I think you would be hard pressed to not seriously seriously consider him as the National COY. Look at Albertus's record before Oliver stepped in and look at it now. This is one of the biggest turnarounds of a college program at the D3 level in the last 10 years. EASILY! Look at the school, the location, the size of enrollment, all these factors. It's really unbelievable when you look at it. This guy is one of the hardest working Coaches in the country. Not to mention a top tier recruiter and an outstanding X's and O's guy as well. He deserves it!!!
Oh, I think his coaching performance in past years is far more deserving than this year. He's started with an embarrassment of riches and it's been a little tumultuous throughout. Maybe they'd reward him for keeping things together, but I imagine Grzek from St. Norbert, where they lost six seniors and managed to put together another one loss season, might get more consideration.
Less than 24 hours away from Round 1. Who else is excited?
As everyone knows, I am a huge Albertus fan. So, I don't try make predictions. I root for Albertus to win. And that won't change. So, instead I wanted to present my keys to the game. (No Al Michaels is not calling the game and I am not Dan Dierdoff).
Keys for Springfield
1. Score off of Albertus turnovers - They will turn the ball over
2. Win the bench battle (I believe that the benches will be short for both teams, but Springfield needs to be productive off the bench)
3. Get Vic in foul trouble early - Can't allow him to have offense run through him
4. Force Albertus into a jump shooting team
5. Need to get at least 20 second chance points
Keys for Albertus
1. Get to the rim - allowing for open looks
2. Play under control (this is the tournament, officials might call this game tight. Can't risk player control fouls or arguing with officials)
3. Hit free throws -
4. Try to turn the game into a track meet - need to push tempo; forcing Springfield to rush possessions
5. Keep Vic and Larsen on the court - need to play at least 32 minutes each
Very interesting stats:
Over the last 7 games, Springfield has averaged 32 points at the half and give up 27. Albertus has averaged 43 points and give up 34. Springfield has allowed 30 points at the half only 3 times (1-2; both losses were to Babson). If Albertus has 40 points at the half, then they are controlling tempo and I don't think Springfield wants that. If Albertus is held under 32, then Springfield is controlling tempo and Albertus does not want that.
One other thing, Babson has two really good players, Flannery and Wickey that gave Springfield lots of trouble the last two times. Flannery scored 30 and 19, Wickey scored 17 and 19. Wickey is a big man, plays close to the basket and Flannery is like Ray Askew, a forward who has guard skills. Sledge and Vic may present difficulties to springfield.
Springfield has experience and strong guard play. They can hit shots and play very strong team defense. They will be disciplined, they do not turn the ball over, therefore preventing fast break opportunities. They also don't mind playing an ugly game. Strong guards with a smart veteran coach will present a lot of issues. Whoever can control the tempo will have the edge.
albertus up 12 at half. def the more superior team. 1-6 from three, i just think no jennings will be the achilles heel eventually. with him, they are a final four team. but keep proving me wrong!
we NEED to box out on the defensive end my god
Sanders has looked terrible the last two games. looks like a deer in headlights. basically 5-4 when he's out there. james jennings, you are missed
Good win.... A lot of things to clean up. A lot! It is good to know that Albertus can win a game playing in the 60s. They may need to do that again tomorrow night. But wow.. A lot of things to clean up.
Albertus missed 17 free throws
Albertus went 1-10 from three pointers.. that one was Sledge to make it 7-4
Julian needs to flush this one. Just flush it hard!
No way, Albertus wins tomorrow versus Dickinson (if they beat Regis) playing like this. Springfield got back into the game because they basically dared Albertus to shoot from the perimeter. Vic is so skilled that he made some great passes and jump shots to keep the game at a distance.
Wilson played a great game. No turnover or dumb shots. Played great defense. And moved the ball well around the perimeter.
Walker played a strong second half, great contribution.
I think we now know, 7 guys are playing. The starting 5, Wilson and Walker. Walters saw about 4 minutes in the first.
What did everyone else see?
GNAC, jennings is missed. But, this is what we have.
It is definitely a lackluster performance from Sanders.. Sad to say, we need Jennings and Wiggins back. I like Marc Wilson, reminds me of a more athletic Reaves, Reaves was better and a leader but Wilson has good intangibles. Vic should be considered as the best player in d3 basketball. What a player. Does it all! Winning a game in the 60's.. says a lot about Oliver! Top coach in D3, if they could win games in the 60's, and the 90's, all they need is defense/rebounding and they will be fine. Walters , I love him. Has heart, just raw. I never thought Springfield that great, I think Johnson and Wales would have beat Springfield. but they played ok. On to the next one people! Let's go GNAC.
Gentleman, I am in Carlysle PA. I couldnt not go to the game! What a win by the Falcons. All around just not the greatest game but good enough to win. I need to start off with one thing. The Springfield parents are an absoulte disgrace to the game of basketball. I have never seen a group of PARENTS so blatantly disrespectful to the opposing team and referees. I was really shocked. Not to mention one of their player shoving our player in the handshake line. Just really shocked by it all. Also how bad Springfield is. The fact that this team is ahead of us in RR rankings is a joke. I am officially done with those rankings. I dont care what anyone says at this point. I really dont.
I stayed to watch the Dickinson/Regis game (all alone with about a thousand Dickinson fans) and I will tell you all right now I didnt see anything from them that blew me away. They have size yes but I am very confident going into tomorrow. The kid Wixted. WOW what an outstanding player. Really a tremdous talent. Will be difficult to stop but we are more of a complete team. Everything and I mean everything runs through Wixted, most of the other guys looked almost like the they didnt even want the ball. They made big shots when they needed to. A really scrappy effort by Regis, at one point I really thought they were going to pull it out.
I am optimistic and really looking forward to tomorrow night. With a game under our belt at this gym on these hoops I am very confident that we will shoot the ball much better tomorrow. If people at D3Hoops actually thought we had to prove ourselves against this Springfield team then I have to say they must have not watched us or Springfield play all season.
I apoligze if there are any typos, iPhones arent the greatest to type on. I had alot of pressure to get out of the door before the wife got home from work. I will most likely be on the couch for the remainder of the week for coming to this weekend but such is life LOL.
BTW I dont want this post to come off as me calling the D3hoops guys out or anybody. Just the Springfield fans. They really got me in a bad mood and I kept my mouth shut the entire time.
Dunk Haven!!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 06, 2015, 11:12:50 PM
Also how bad Springfield is. The fact that this team is ahead of us in RR rankings is a joke. I am officially done with those rankings. I dont care what anyone says at this point. I really dont.
You do understand AMC was ahead of Springfield, right? In the last public rankings, AMC was 7 and Springfield was 9 and I am quite sure AMC got higher in the final rankings and Springfield probably stayed around the same spot - they didn't jump AMC.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 06, 2015, 11:12:50 PM
I am optimistic and really looking forward to tomorrow night. With a game under our belt at this gym on these hoops I am very confident that we will shoot the ball much better tomorrow. If people at D3Hoops actually thought we had to prove ourselves against this Springfield team then I have to say they must have not watched us or Springfield play all season.
BTW I dont want this post to come off as me calling the D3hoops guys out or anybody. Just the Springfield fans. They really got me in a bad mood and I kept my mouth shut the entire time.
Well, I think AMC did have to prove themselves. They had one game that was a test this season against Richard Stockton (now Stockton) and that was back in November. This was a good test to start the post-season run because Springfield is a well coached team. It doesn't matter if we have watched both teams (and I have), it is still a good test. Doesn't mean the test is going to be extremely hard... it's just a different team than AMC has played all season.
At this point, I will be at Dickinson tomorrow... looking forward to it.
Dave- I been following this thread for a long time. I never heard you say anything good about AMC.. I've seen you write some neutral things about AMC but nothing positive/encouraging.. Where does your distain for AMC come from? . They came from nothing, not even thought about and mAde it to the sweet 16 within 5 or 6 years.. For their sake I hope they kill tomorrow. You talk about sos but no one wants to play a GNAC team that will beat them. Tell the NESAC and little east teams to schedule Albertus. Im sure Oliver will love and embrace the game. Amc was 20 points better then Springfield... JWU was 15 points better than Springfield.
You see me write some neutral things... exactly! I am not a fan or an alum supporting AMC... that is the role of the fans, alums, and GNAC followers to do... not my role or job! So yes, neutral or fact-based comments with my opinions based on that information is what I write.
I am not going write glowing report about AMC just for the heck of it. I haven't written anything negative at all this season. What I write is factually based: "they had one game that was a test this season against Richard Stockton and that was back in November." There is nothing negative about that and that is complete fact. There is no disdain. Apparently, unless you write things that are actually glowing about AMC, a person has it out for the team.
By the way, I have AMC #10 in my Top 25 this week, but, again, unless I rave and spout "AMC is the best team that ever walked the earth" I am just being negative. You should see the comments, emails, messages I get for teams I don't even rank!
And you can say JWU was 15 points better than Springfield and that is fine, but JWU's overall resume doesn't indicate that. You can't compare game to game and automatically say it's true. If that were the case, we should stop the tournament now because Defiance just beat the defending national champions... so they must be the champs why are we still playing this tournament?
Furthermore, we can talk about scheduling until the cows come home... but there are other conferences and other teams than the NESCAC and the Little East. Look elsewhere. AMC is not that far from a number of other conferences and teams that could help the SOS. Crying about the NESCAC and the Little East not scheduling is falling on deaf ears. There are ways to solve the scheduling challenge and I am quite sure you will start to see that next season since Oliver is on the Northeast RAC and can probably have a better understanding of how to fix the problem.
I know enough from working with my fourth grader's algebra that if Johnson and Wales is 15 points better than Springfield then they would be 10 points better than Albertus Magnus ... :)
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 06, 2015, 11:23:53 PM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 06, 2015, 11:12:50 PM
Also how bad Springfield is. The fact that this team is ahead of us in RR rankings is a joke. I am officially done with those rankings. I dont care what anyone says at this point. I really dont.
You do understand AMC was ahead of Springfield, right? In the last public rankings, AMC was 7 and Springfield was 9 and I am quite sure AMC got higher in the final rankings and Springfield probably stayed around the same spot - they didn't jump AMC.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 06, 2015, 11:12:50 PM
I am optimistic and really looking forward to tomorrow night. With a game under our belt at this gym on these hoops I am very confident that we will shoot the ball much better tomorrow. If people at D3Hoops actually thought we had to prove ourselves against this Springfield team then I have to say they must have not watched us or Springfield play all season.
BTW I dont want this post to come off as me calling the D3hoops guys out or anybody. Just the Springfield fans. They really got me in a bad mood and I kept my mouth shut the entire time.
Well, I think AMC did have to prove themselves. They had one game that was a test this season against Richard Stockton (now Stockton) and that was back in November. This was a good test to start the post-season run because Springfield is a well coached team. It doesn't matter if we have watched both teams (and I have), it is still a good test. Doesn't mean the test is going to be extremely hard... it's just a different team than AMC has played all season.
At this point, I will be at Dickinson tomorrow... looking forward to it.
Again, had amc lost to jwu they wouldn't of been ahead of Springfield and that is wrong! So please Reread my post, thank you!
Quote from: Gnacalum2323 on March 07, 2015, 12:27:12 AM
Dave- I been following this thread for a long time. I never heard you say anything good about AMC.. I've seen you write some neutral things about AMC but nothing positive/encouraging.. Where does your distain for AMC come from? . They came from nothing, not even thought about and mAde it to the sweet 16 within 5 or 6 years.. For their sake I hope they kill tomorrow. You talk about sos but no one wants to play a GNAC team that will beat them. Tell the NESAC and little east teams to schedule Albertus. Im sure Oliver will love and embrace the game. Amc was 20 points better then Springfield... JWU was 15 points better than Springfield.
Nope this isn't me with another profile lol glad to see I'm not the only one who sees it
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 07, 2015, 01:06:41 AM
You see me write some neutral things... exactly! I am not a fan or an alum supporting AMC... that is the role of the fans, alums, and GNAC followers to do... not my role or job! So yes, neutral or fact-based comments with my opinions based on that information is what I write.
I am not going write glowing report about AMC just for the heck of it. I haven't written anything negative at all this season. What I write is factually based: "they had one game that was a test this season against Richard Stockton and that was back in November." There is nothing negative about that and that is complete fact. There is no disdain. Apparently, unless you write things that are actually glowing about AMC, a person has it out for the team.
By the way, I have AMC #10 in my Top 25 this week, but, again, unless I rave and spout "AMC is the best team that ever walked the earth" I am just being negative. You should see the comments, emails, messages I get for teams I don't even rank!
And you can say JWU was 15 points better than Springfield and that is fine, but JWU's overall resume doesn't indicate that. You can't compare game to game and automatically say it's true. If that were the case, we should stop the tournament now because Defiance just beat the defending national champions... so they must be the champs why are we still playing this tournament?
Furthermore, we can talk about scheduling until the cows come home... but there are other conferences and other teams than the NESCAC and the Little East. Look elsewhere. AMC is not that far from a number of other conferences and teams that could help the SOS. Crying about the NESCAC and the Little East not scheduling is falling on deaf ears. There are ways to solve the scheduling challenge and I am quite sure you will start to see that next season since Oliver is on the Northeast RAC and can probably have a better understanding of how to fix the problem.
Omg stop crying
Quote from: Ferraro13 on March 07, 2015, 05:35:06 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 07, 2015, 01:06:41 AM
You see me write some neutral things... exactly! I am not a fan or an alum supporting AMC... that is the role of the fans, alums, and GNAC followers to do... not my role or job! So yes, neutral or fact-based comments with my opinions based on that information is what I write.
I am not going write glowing report about AMC just for the heck of it. I haven't written anything negative at all this season. What I write is factually based: "they had one game that was a test this season against Richard Stockton and that was back in November." There is nothing negative about that and that is complete fact. There is no disdain. Apparently, unless you write things that are actually glowing about AMC, a person has it out for the team.
By the way, I have AMC #10 in my Top 25 this week, but, again, unless I rave and spout "AMC is the best team that ever walked the earth" I am just being negative. You should see the comments, emails, messages I get for teams I don't even rank!
And you can say JWU was 15 points better than Springfield and that is fine, but JWU's overall resume doesn't indicate that. You can't compare game to game and automatically say it's true. If that were the case, we should stop the tournament now because Defiance just beat the defending national champions... so they must be the champs why are we still playing this tournament?
Furthermore, we can talk about scheduling until the cows come home... but there are other conferences and other teams than the NESCAC and the Little East. Look elsewhere. AMC is not that far from a number of other conferences and teams that could help the SOS. Crying about the NESCAC and the Little East not scheduling is falling on deaf ears. There are ways to solve the scheduling challenge and I am quite sure you will start to see that next season since Oliver is on the Northeast RAC and can probably have a better understanding of how to fix the problem.
Omg stop crying
d-mac wasn't. Perhaps you should look in a mirror.
Perhaps, it is cute how all you "diehards of the board" stick together. Where was I crying? I speak my mind, if you don't like it then stay off this thread
Anyhow, back to bball. Junkie impressive that you are there! Jealous, I thought about making that ride today. But just couldn't make it happen. Wixsted is a phenomenal shooter for a big man. I hope Vic can stay out of foul trouble. We need to make this a track meet, it's gonna be fun!
Quote from: Ferraro13 on March 07, 2015, 01:03:27 PM
Perhaps, it is cute how all you "diehards of the board" stick together. Where was I crying? I speak my mind, if you don't like it then stay off this thread
There are plenty of die-hard posters willing to give me or Dave a hard time if it's warranted. But when you cry about disrespect and you are ranked No. 7, you may well find someone will call B.S.
Quote from: Gnacalum2323 on March 07, 2015, 12:27:12 AM
Dave- I been following this thread for a long time. I never heard you say anything good about AMC.. I've seen you write some neutral things about AMC but nothing positive/encouraging.. Where does your distain for AMC come from? . They came from nothing, not even thought about and mAde it to the sweet 16 within 5 or 6 years.. For their sake I hope they kill tomorrow. You talk about sos but no one wants to play a GNAC team that will beat them. Tell the NESAC and little east teams to schedule Albertus. Im sure Oliver will love and embrace the game. Amc was 20 points better then Springfield... JWU was 15 points better than Springfield.
I'm as big a fan of what Albertus can do as any neutral - I will likely prove crazy, but on the bracket challenge I have them in the Championship game (losing to Whitewater, so, I won't be anywhere near the top anyway, but still). Yet, I'm not sure exactly what positive things you want people to say.
I was at the Stockton games last night, I constantly run into coaches from the area (E/NE/A) who have nothing good to say about the behavior of the coaches and players. Coaches who would never schedule Albertus, not because they're afraid of losing (some of them are very used to losing), but because they just don't want their players being exposed to the kind of behavior Albertus allows - all the talking and complaining, etc.
I'm not saying it isn't valid. It is. No one is breaking rules (although, I'd argue it sometimes goes beyond what's appropriate), but playing (or reffing) against Albertus is just not fun or productive.
I get that it's cool to be the bullies. Albertus has premier talent; it's part of the mystique, but if you're going to play that way, you have to get used to being the bad guy. Oliver has (and I think he's way over this) to get used to being respected, but disliked. That's just the way it's going to be.
I'm glad to have Albertus around. I think the team is a welcome divergence from the typical plodding midwest giants we often see in d3. It's great, but it's not terribly fun for the other teams. There is some measure of tact that goes along with being included in the club. Albertus has staked its reputation on being the despised outsider. I'd love for the team to come through on the floor this year. There's so much talent there, it would be a shame to see them lose. At the same time, your team is what it is. People are not going to have a ton of good things to say about them until they really win big.
A trip to Salem would go a long way towards getting there - of course, I suspect a trip to Salem would also mean losing your coach and probably having to start over in the reputation department anyway.
There are a lot of teams in d3 - a lot of them have major talent. They don't all win. Winning will solve a lot. Cabrini had pretty much the same rep until they went to the championship game, then they got more respect. It's just the way of things.
I try to be as positive as I can when I talk about Albertus, but there's a lot to question.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 07, 2015, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on March 07, 2015, 01:03:27 PM
Perhaps, it is cute how all you "diehards of the board" stick together. Where was I crying? I speak my mind, if you don't like it then stay off this thread
There are plenty of die-hard posters willing to give me or Dave a hard time if it's warranted. But when you cry about disrespect and you are ranked No. 7, you may well find someone will call B.S.
When did I ever have a problem with being ranked 7? Should read a few posts before commenting so you don't sound like a fool
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 07, 2015, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: Gnacalum2323 on March 07, 2015, 12:27:12 AM
Dave- I been following this thread for a long time. I never heard you say anything good about AMC.. I've seen you write some neutral things about AMC but nothing positive/encouraging.. Where does your distain for AMC come from? . They came from nothing, not even thought about and mAde it to the sweet 16 within 5 or 6 years.. For their sake I hope they kill tomorrow. You talk about sos but no one wants to play a GNAC team that will beat them. Tell the NESAC and little east teams to schedule Albertus. Im sure Oliver will love and embrace the game. Amc was 20 points better then Springfield... JWU was 15 points better than Springfield.
I'm as big a fan of what Albertus can do as any neutral - I will likely prove crazy, but on the bracket challenge I have them in the Championship game (losing to Whitewater, so, I won't be anywhere near the top anyway, but still). Yet, I'm not sure exactly what positive things you want people to say.
I was at the Stockton games last night, I constantly run into coaches from the area (E/NE/A) who have nothing good to say about the behavior of the coaches and players. Coaches who would never schedule Albertus, not because they're afraid of losing (some of them are very used to losing), but because they just don't want their players being exposed to the kind of behavior Albertus allows - all the talking and complaining, etc.
I'm not saying it isn't valid. It is. No one is breaking rules (although, I'd argue it sometimes goes beyond what's appropriate), but playing (or reffing) against Albertus is just not fun or productive.
I get that it's cool to be the bullies. Albertus has premier talent; it's part of the mystique, but if you're going to play that way, you have to get used to being the bad guy. Oliver has (and I think he's way over this) to get used to being respected, but disliked. That's just the way it's going to be.
I'm glad to have Albertus around. I think the team is a welcome divergence from the typical plodding midwest giants we often see in d3. It's great, but it's not terribly fun for the other teams. There is some measure of tact that goes along with being included in the club. Albertus has staked its reputation on being the despised outsider. I'd love for the team to come through on the floor this year. There's so much talent there, it would be a shame to see them lose. At the same time, your team is what it is. People are not going to have a ton of good things to say about them until they really win big.
A trip to Salem would go a long way towards getting there - of course, I suspect a trip to Salem would also mean losing your coach and probably having to start over in the reputation department anyway.
There are a lot of teams in d3 - a lot of them have major talent. They don't all win. Winning will solve a lot. Cabrini had pretty much the same rep until they went to the championship game, then they got more respect. It's just the way of things.
I try to be as positive as I can when I talk about Albertus, but there's a lot to question.
Hopps I respect your opinion more then anyone on this board. But cmon, they don't want to play us bc they don't want their players exposed to that type of behavior? First of all it is college basketball, not a dr Seuss gathering. That is absurd to hear, and if it's true, then d 3 basketball is so sheltered it's unreal. These guys aren't killers. They are inner city kids, no fights on the court, nothing. That's absurd to hear
Quote from: Ferraro13 on March 07, 2015, 03:13:47 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 07, 2015, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: Gnacalum2323 on March 07, 2015, 12:27:12 AM
Dave- I been following this thread for a long time. I never heard you say anything good about AMC.. I've seen you write some neutral things about AMC but nothing positive/encouraging.. Where does your distain for AMC come from? . They came from nothing, not even thought about and mAde it to the sweet 16 within 5 or 6 years.. For their sake I hope they kill tomorrow. You talk about sos but no one wants to play a GNAC team that will beat them. Tell the NESAC and little east teams to schedule Albertus. Im sure Oliver will love and embrace the game. Amc was 20 points better then Springfield... JWU was 15 points better than Springfield.
I'm as big a fan of what Albertus can do as any neutral - I will likely prove crazy, but on the bracket challenge I have them in the Championship game (losing to Whitewater, so, I won't be anywhere near the top anyway, but still). Yet, I'm not sure exactly what positive things you want people to say.
I was at the Stockton games last night, I constantly run into coaches from the area (E/NE/A) who have nothing good to say about the behavior of the coaches and players. Coaches who would never schedule Albertus, not because they're afraid of losing (some of them are very used to losing), but because they just don't want their players being exposed to the kind of behavior Albertus allows - all the talking and complaining, etc.
I'm not saying it isn't valid. It is. No one is breaking rules (although, I'd argue it sometimes goes beyond what's appropriate), but playing (or reffing) against Albertus is just not fun or productive.
I get that it's cool to be the bullies. Albertus has premier talent; it's part of the mystique, but if you're going to play that way, you have to get used to being the bad guy. Oliver has (and I think he's way over this) to get used to being respected, but disliked. That's just the way it's going to be.
I'm glad to have Albertus around. I think the team is a welcome divergence from the typical plodding midwest giants we often see in d3. It's great, but it's not terribly fun for the other teams. There is some measure of tact that goes along with being included in the club. Albertus has staked its reputation on being the despised outsider. I'd love for the team to come through on the floor this year. There's so much talent there, it would be a shame to see them lose. At the same time, your team is what it is. People are not going to have a ton of good things to say about them until they really win big.
A trip to Salem would go a long way towards getting there - of course, I suspect a trip to Salem would also mean losing your coach and probably having to start over in the reputation department anyway.
There are a lot of teams in d3 - a lot of them have major talent. They don't all win. Winning will solve a lot. Cabrini had pretty much the same rep until they went to the championship game, then they got more respect. It's just the way of things.
I try to be as positive as I can when I talk about Albertus, but there's a lot to question.
Hopps I respect your opinion more then anyone on this board. But cmon, they don't want to play us bc they don't want their players exposed to that type of behavior? First of all it is college basketball, not a dr Seuss gathering. That is absurd to hear, and if it's true, then d 3 basketball is so sheltered it's unreal. These guys aren't killers. They are inner city kids, no fights on the court, nothing. That's absurd to hear
By the way, that's not aimed at you hopps, that's just me in disbelief of that bring remotely true. And trust me I do believe you
Quote from: Ferraro13 on March 07, 2015, 03:08:37 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 07, 2015, 01:35:37 PM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on March 07, 2015, 01:03:27 PM
Perhaps, it is cute how all you "diehards of the board" stick together. Where was I crying? I speak my mind, if you don't like it then stay off this thread
There are plenty of die-hard posters willing to give me or Dave a hard time if it's warranted. But when you cry about disrespect and you are ranked No. 7, you may well find someone will call B.S.
When did I ever have a problem with being ranked 7? Should read a few posts before commenting so you don't sound like a fool
You should read what I said, too. I didn't say you were crying
about being ranked 7, sir.
Hoops Fan is pretty well connected. He talks to coaches. He's seen Albertus play this year, in person. And he agrees with what Dave pointed out last year about the way the team carries itself. It's possible that that is correct, then, isn't it? Perhaps it's not just Dave, and the coaches he talks to, and the NCAA Tournament site rep, saying so. Seems like perhaps this is actually reality.
Quote from: Ferraro13 on March 07, 2015, 03:13:47 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 07, 2015, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: Gnacalum2323 on March 07, 2015, 12:27:12 AM
Dave- I been following this thread for a long time. I never heard you say anything good about AMC.. I've seen you write some neutral things about AMC but nothing positive/encouraging.. Where does your distain for AMC come from? . They came from nothing, not even thought about and mAde it to the sweet 16 within 5 or 6 years.. For their sake I hope they kill tomorrow. You talk about sos but no one wants to play a GNAC team that will beat them. Tell the NESAC and little east teams to schedule Albertus. Im sure Oliver will love and embrace the game. Amc was 20 points better then Springfield... JWU was 15 points better than Springfield.
I'm as big a fan of what Albertus can do as any neutral - I will likely prove crazy, but on the bracket challenge I have them in the Championship game (losing to Whitewater, so, I won't be anywhere near the top anyway, but still). Yet, I'm not sure exactly what positive things you want people to say.
I was at the Stockton games last night, I constantly run into coaches from the area (E/NE/A) who have nothing good to say about the behavior of the coaches and players. Coaches who would never schedule Albertus, not because they're afraid of losing (some of them are very used to losing), but because they just don't want their players being exposed to the kind of behavior Albertus allows - all the talking and complaining, etc.
I'm not saying it isn't valid. It is. No one is breaking rules (although, I'd argue it sometimes goes beyond what's appropriate), but playing (or reffing) against Albertus is just not fun or productive.
I get that it's cool to be the bullies. Albertus has premier talent; it's part of the mystique, but if you're going to play that way, you have to get used to being the bad guy. Oliver has (and I think he's way over this) to get used to being respected, but disliked. That's just the way it's going to be.
I'm glad to have Albertus around. I think the team is a welcome divergence from the typical plodding midwest giants we often see in d3. It's great, but it's not terribly fun for the other teams. There is some measure of tact that goes along with being included in the club. Albertus has staked its reputation on being the despised outsider. I'd love for the team to come through on the floor this year. There's so much talent there, it would be a shame to see them lose. At the same time, your team is what it is. People are not going to have a ton of good things to say about them until they really win big.
A trip to Salem would go a long way towards getting there - of course, I suspect a trip to Salem would also mean losing your coach and probably having to start over in the reputation department anyway.
There are a lot of teams in d3 - a lot of them have major talent. They don't all win. Winning will solve a lot. Cabrini had pretty much the same rep until they went to the championship game, then they got more respect. It's just the way of things.
I try to be as positive as I can when I talk about Albertus, but there's a lot to question.
Hopps I respect your opinion more then anyone on this board. But cmon, they don't want to play us bc they don't want their players exposed to that type of behavior? First of all it is college basketball, not a dr Seuss gathering. That is absurd to hear, and if it's true, then d 3 basketball is so sheltered it's unreal. These guys aren't killers. They are inner city kids, no fights on the court, nothing. That's absurd to hear
I'm not saying it will influence them or something - just that they don't believe their players deserve the kind of disrespect that comes from the Albertus style. They can schedule a loss somewhere else. It's more not wanting to reward the style with a scheduled game. I haven't talked to any NESCAC coaches in particular, but it wouldn't surprise me if they're in the same vein. I mean, yeah, there might be some SOS consideration there, but like Connecticut College will basically play anyone and they're not on the schedule.
I was at Stockton early in the year. Believe me, Stockton was pretty bad too - and it was early season for the refs, so they certainly weren't at full speed, but the absolute abuse I saw was embarrassing just to witness. Davis came off as such a immature baby. Granted, you see that sort of complaining a lot more these days than in the past, but it was truly terrible.
Trash talk is trash talk. I've got no problem with that either, but the sense of entitlement, the disrespect for officials, yelling at opposing coaches - it's just a selfish arrogance that maybe isn't indicative of the guys as people (I sure hope not). It's not fun to witness. I much prefer to watch Albertus on the internet than in person.
Maybe that was a particularly bad example, but Dave saw the same thing at Williams last year.
I've said before, I imagine part of the recruiting pitch to come to Albertus is the promise of freedom, but there should be a difference between freedom and disrespect. If it were a young team, that might be one thing, but these guys are seniors.
It should be said, I didn't see much of anything from Sledge. He's played at a high level for good coaches. He knows how to behave. Davis is the worst offender and younger guys follow his example. Oliver could absolutely reign it in if he wanted to, but he's not so great himself.
Quote from: Ferraro13 on March 07, 2015, 03:16:05 PM
Quote from: Ferraro13 on March 07, 2015, 03:13:47 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 07, 2015, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: Gnacalum2323 on March 07, 2015, 12:27:12 AM
Dave- I been following this thread for a long time. I never heard you say anything good about AMC.. I've seen you write some neutral things about AMC but nothing positive/encouraging.. Where does your distain for AMC come from? . They came from nothing, not even thought about and mAde it to the sweet 16 within 5 or 6 years.. For their sake I hope they kill tomorrow. You talk about sos but no one wants to play a GNAC team that will beat them. Tell the NESAC and little east teams to schedule Albertus. Im sure Oliver will love and embrace the game. Amc was 20 points better then Springfield... JWU was 15 points better than Springfield.
I'm as big a fan of what Albertus can do as any neutral - I will likely prove crazy, but on the bracket challenge I have them in the Championship game (losing to Whitewater, so, I won't be anywhere near the top anyway, but still). Yet, I'm not sure exactly what positive things you want people to say.
I was at the Stockton games last night, I constantly run into coaches from the area (E/NE/A) who have nothing good to say about the behavior of the coaches and players. Coaches who would never schedule Albertus, not because they're afraid of losing (some of them are very used to losing), but because they just don't want their players being exposed to the kind of behavior Albertus allows - all the talking and complaining, etc.
I'm not saying it isn't valid. It is. No one is breaking rules (although, I'd argue it sometimes goes beyond what's appropriate), but playing (or reffing) against Albertus is just not fun or productive.
I get that it's cool to be the bullies. Albertus has premier talent; it's part of the mystique, but if you're going to play that way, you have to get used to being the bad guy. Oliver has (and I think he's way over this) to get used to being respected, but disliked. That's just the way it's going to be.
I'm glad to have Albertus around. I think the team is a welcome divergence from the typical plodding midwest giants we often see in d3. It's great, but it's not terribly fun for the other teams. There is some measure of tact that goes along with being included in the club. Albertus has staked its reputation on being the despised outsider. I'd love for the team to come through on the floor this year. There's so much talent there, it would be a shame to see them lose. At the same time, your team is what it is. People are not going to have a ton of good things to say about them until they really win big.
A trip to Salem would go a long way towards getting there - of course, I suspect a trip to Salem would also mean losing your coach and probably having to start over in the reputation department anyway.
There are a lot of teams in d3 - a lot of them have major talent. They don't all win. Winning will solve a lot. Cabrini had pretty much the same rep until they went to the championship game, then they got more respect. It's just the way of things.
I try to be as positive as I can when I talk about Albertus, but there's a lot to question.
Hopps I respect your opinion more then anyone on this board. But cmon, they don't want to play us bc they don't want their players exposed to that type of behavior? First of all it is college basketball, not a dr Seuss gathering. That is absurd to hear, and if it's true, then d 3 basketball is so sheltered it's unreal. These guys aren't killers. They are inner city kids, no fights on the court, nothing. That's absurd to hear
By the way, that's not aimed at you hopps, that's just me in disbelief of that bring remotely true. And trust me I do believe you
Yeah, perception is reality. I imagine the team is better than the way they present themselves on the floor, but that is all most people see. WE'll see how it goes at Dickinson tonight.
I am getting ready to watch some basketball, but need to throw in my two cents (which in about a 1,000 years, may mean something). I know the players pretty well at Albertus. I, as most people know, try to be as level headed as anyone when talking about teams I root for. There are a few players that are pretty arrogant at Albertus and they tend to show it on the court. I don't really like that style; I don't want to see guys celebrating after a routine tackle or clapping their hands while running down the line after a seeing eye single. I just like watching guys play ball (but also making sure that I remember these are college kids and their emotions may take over).
With all that being said; I think most of the guys that have played under Oliver have been good players who play the game the way it should. I am talking about current players like Larsen, Sledge, Vic L, Julian Saunders, and guys who have recently graduated, Darius Watson, Ray Askew, Walden St. Juste, Byron Reaves, Jimmy Economoplois, etc. Those guys didn't complain much, played hard, played fair. Those guys played college basketball with the emotion and fun that college basketball should be.
Now Davis, at times, whines and complains too much. He is talented but isn't the best sportsman. Oliver at times complains too much. He is very adamant and energetic. A lot of people don't like that style, however, it is his style. Coaches work officials at every level in every sport. I think people natural temperament comes out during these times. I would love to see him be a little more cool on the sidelines, but it might not happen. What I do know is that he is a great teacher of the game and he retains players and graduates them.
I think it is unfair to single out one player and then make the assumption the whole team reacts that way. Again, I am just stating my thoughts not trying to change anyone's opinions.
As for those coaches not scheduling a team because they feel it may be too hostile. Now, that is a sad commentary. We are suppose to be educating at the D3 level. When someone doesn't want to play a game because it may cause more harm than good, then something is broken.
Now onto the game!
Again, always going to root for Albertus.
Let us look at the keys for both teams.
Dickinson
1. Need to keep turnovers to under 10. Cannot have 22 turnovers again, Albertus will take advantage of this.
2. Need to outrebound Albertus - a much smaller Regis team outrebound them last night and it almost hurt them
3. Need to keep out of foul trouble. I look for Albertus to attack the rim.
Albertus
1. Need to keep Vic and Larsen on the court - cannot have foul trouble
2. Need to shoot at least 75% from free throw line - yesterday 17-35 performance was hard to watch
3. Need to make more than one three pointer. If Dickinson is able to drop into a zone and dare Albertus to shoot, they need to make shots in order to open up the paint.
4. Need to play under control
Both teams had a B performance last night in their opening round games. They did some things well and some very poorly. Hopefully, they are able to give everyone a great effort tonight. If one team shows up and the other doesn't, goodnight Sally. This game will be over with 10 minutes left in the 2nd half. I don't think that Dickinson is going to look for many bench points, and I don't think more than 8 players will play for Albertus. This will fall to the starting guys. Sledge/Vic/Davis vs Wixted, Angradi, and Hinnenkamp.
Should be fun.
Dunk Haven!
Quote from: falcons2010 on March 07, 2015, 05:08:26 PM
I am getting ready to watch some basketball, but need to throw in my two cents (which in about a 1,000 years, may mean something). I know the players pretty well at Albertus. I, as most people know, try to be as level headed as anyone when talking about teams I root for. There are a few players that are pretty arrogant at Albertus and they tend to show it on the court. I don't really like that style; I don't want to see guys celebrating after a routine tackle or clapping their hands while running down the line after a seeing eye single. I just like watching guys play ball (but also making sure that I remember these are college kids and their emotions may take over).
With all that being said; I think most of the guys that have played under Oliver have been good players who play the game the way it should. I am talking about current players like Larsen, Sledge, Vic L, Julian Saunders, and guys who have recently graduated, Darius Watson, Ray Askew, Walden St. Juste, Byron Reaves, Jimmy Economoplois, etc. Those guys didn't complain much, played hard, played fair. Those guys played college basketball with the emotion and fun that college basketball should be.
Now Davis, at times, whines and complains too much. He is talented but isn't the best sportsman. Oliver at times complains too much. He is very adamant and energetic. A lot of people don't like that style, however, it is his style. Coaches work officials at every level in every sport. I think people natural temperament comes out during these times. I would love to see him be a little more cool on the sidelines, but it might not happen. What I do know is that he is a great teacher of the game and he retains players and graduates them.
I think it is unfair to single out one player and then make the assumption the whole team reacts that way. Again, I am just stating my thoughts not trying to change anyone's opinions.
As for those coaches not scheduling a team because they feel it may be too hostile. Now, that is a sad commentary. We are suppose to be educating at the D3 level. When someone doesn't want to play a game because it may cause more harm than good, then something is broken.
Very good, level-headed post, but I disagree with your last paragraph (if I am interpreting it correctly). If that is meant as denigrating other coaches for not scheduling Albertus, I disagree. Since there are plenty of other options available which might be more pleasant (whether or not there would be a greater chance of success ;)), why wouldn't a coach schedule elsewhere? On the other hand, if you meant it was a sad commentary on Albertus developing that self-defeating perception, I agree. Back in their heyday, most of the Pistons reveled in their "Bad Boys" persona (and arguably it did bring fannies to the seats), but in the NBA coaches can't decide which teams not to play - in college (aside from conference commitments), they can and do.
Mr. Y, I meant sad from both sides. Any time a team doesn't schedue another because of non budget or basketball related issues; then something is wrong.
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Perhaps, it is cute how all you "diehards of the board" stick together. Where was I crying? I speak my mind, if you don't like it then stay off this thread
There are plenty of die-hard posters willing to give me or Dave a hard time if it's warranted. But when you cry about disrespect and you are ranked No. 7, you may well find someone will call B.S.
When did I ever have a problem with being ranked 7? Should read a few posts before commenting so you don't sound like a fool
You should read what I said, too. I didn't say you were crying about being ranked 7, sir.
Hoops Fan is pretty well connected. He talks to coaches. He's seen Albertus play this year, in person. And he agrees with what Dave pointed out last year about the way the team carries itself. It's possible that that is correct, then, isn't it? Perhaps it's not just Dave, and the coaches he talks to, and the NCAA Tournament site rep, saying so. Seems like perhaps this is actually reality.
I believe that it is true, I just can't believe it figuratively speaking, not literally. I mean I just watched catholic and Randolph Macon coaches/players almost brawl and get three techs. Emotions run high in competitive sports.
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Dave- I been following this thread for a long time. I never heard you say anything good about AMC.. I've seen you write some neutral things about AMC but nothing positive/encouraging.. Where does your distain for AMC come from? . They came from nothing, not even thought about and mAde it to the sweet 16 within 5 or 6 years.. For their sake I hope they kill tomorrow. You talk about sos but no one wants to play a GNAC team that will beat them. Tell the NESAC and little east teams to schedule Albertus. Im sure Oliver will love and embrace the game. Amc was 20 points better then Springfield... JWU was 15 points better than Springfield.
I'm as big a fan of what Albertus can do as any neutral - I will likely prove crazy, but on the bracket challenge I have them in the Championship game (losing to Whitewater, so, I won't be anywhere near the top anyway, but still). Yet, I'm not sure exactly what positive things you want people to say.
I was at the Stockton games last night, I constantly run into coaches from the area (E/NE/A) who have nothing good to say about the behavior of the coaches and players. Coaches who would never schedule Albertus, not because they're afraid of losing (some of them are very used to losing), but because they just don't want their players being exposed to the kind of behavior Albertus allows - all the talking and complaining, etc.
I'm not saying it isn't valid. It is. No one is breaking rules (although, I'd argue it sometimes goes beyond what's appropriate), but playing (or reffing) against Albertus is just not fun or productive.
I get that it's cool to be the bullies. Albertus has premier talent; it's part of the mystique, but if you're going to play that way, you have to get used to being the bad guy. Oliver has (and I think he's way over this) to get used to being respected, but disliked. That's just the way it's going to be.
I don't know Davis personally. But I do know the director of admissions who accepted him into Albertus. He is a close friend and has had conversations with Davis. Great kid, I know you never said he wasn't, but from everything I hear he is a great kid with a great head on his shoulders. Ne personally, I'm from the inner city of new haven, so maybe I can relate to his passion on the court. The kid just wants to win
I'm glad to have Albertus around. I think the team is a welcome divergence from the typical plodding midwest giants we often see in d3. It's great, but it's not terribly fun for the other teams. There is some measure of tact that goes along with being included in the club. Albertus has staked its reputation on being the despised outsider. I'd love for the team to come through on the floor this year. There's so much talent there, it would be a shame to see them lose. At the same time, your team is what it is. People are not going to have a ton of good things to say about them until they really win big.
A trip to Salem would go a long way towards getting there - of course, I suspect a trip to Salem would also mean losing your coach and probably having to start over in the reputation department anyway.
There are a lot of teams in d3 - a lot of them have major talent. They don't all win. Winning will solve a lot. Cabrini had pretty much the same rep until they went to the championship game, then they got more respect. It's just the way of things.
I try to be as positive as I can when I talk about Albertus, but there's a lot to question.
Hopps I respect your opinion more then anyone on this board. But cmon, they don't want to play us bc they don't want their players exposed to that type of behavior? First of all it is college basketball, not a dr Seuss gathering. That is absurd to hear, and if it's true, then d 3 basketball is so sheltered it's unreal. These guys aren't killers. They are inner city kids, no fights on the court, nothing. That's absurd to hear
I'm not saying it will influence them or something - just that they don't believe their players deserve the kind of disrespect that comes from the Albertus style. They can schedule a loss somewhere else. It's more not wanting to reward the style with a scheduled game. I haven't talked to any NESCAC coaches in particular, but it wouldn't surprise me if they're in the same vein. I mean, yeah, there might be some SOS consideration there, but like Connecticut College will basically play anyone and they're not on the schedule.
I was at Stockton early in the year. Believe me, Stockton was pretty bad too - and it was early season for the refs, so they certainly weren't at full speed, but the absolute abuse I saw was embarrassing just to witness. Davis came off as such a immature baby. Granted, you see that sort of complaining a lot more these days than in the past, but it was truly terrible.
Trash talk is trash talk. I've got no problem with that either, but the sense of entitlement, the disrespect for officials, yelling at opposing coaches - it's just a selfish arrogance that maybe isn't indicative of the guys as people (I sure hope not). It's not fun to witness. I much prefer to watch Albertus on the internet than in person.
Maybe that was a particularly bad example, but Dave saw the same thing at Williams last year.
I've said before, I imagine part of the recruiting pitch to come to Albertus is the promise of freedom, but there should be a difference between freedom and disrespect. If it were a young team, that might be one thing, but these guys are seniors.
It should be said, I didn't see much of anything from Sledge. He's played at a high level for good coaches. He knows how to behave. Davis is the worst offender and younger guys follow his example. Oliver could absolutely reign it in if he wanted to, but he's not so great himself.
I donor know davis personally, but I know the admissions director who accepted him into albetus. He has spoken to Davis several times, and by all indications is nothing but a great kid. I know never said he wasn't, but I'm gonna stick up for him here. Maybe me being from the inner city of new haven, I can relate to his passion on the court. The kid just wants to win. I actually wrote this before but screwed up the reply. Let's go albertus, Gonna need their A game tonight
Talk about handing a game away. Free throws and three point shooting. Silly fouls. Congrats to Dickinson, Wixsted with some huge threes
That should have been overtime. Just crazy coincidence with the ball rolling free to an open man.
Wiggins and Jennings are pretty selfish. They cost Albertus a final four trip possibly. Sledge doesn't deserve that ending after such a big block
Just wasn't meant to be. They beat themselves tonight. I feel for them
If Albertus wants calls their way, few ppl texting me that sledge was fouled on final play(it's honestly a blur to me), they need a bigger gym. Plain and simple. Hit your free throws and they are in sweet 16
This was a great game: I wont take anything away from trying to analyze it.
Congrats to Dickinson and best moving forward.
Albertus players, you played great and belong in the conversation.
Congrats to Vic, Marcus, Tavon, Eian, Lamar, and Julian. Great careers.
Albertus wins by 10-15 at home. That's the way the cookie crumbles as they say
My goodness Julian
Great run for Albertus...as long as the financial aid stays "interesting" in New Haven, they'll be back!
What could have been. Clearly better then a second round ouster. Financial aid lol
Tough way to lose your final game.
Lot's of talented freshmen returning, let's see what the recruitment trail brings.
Pat Coleman called it, Jennings not being there hurt. Julian was 1-17 in Tourney
Gentlemen I'm at a loss for words. Outstanding game by both teams. Honestly the best game I have seen in the tournament in person. I'm not going to say much about the game right now.....that will come. Tough play at the end but you simply cannot expect the referee to make that call in that situation.
I'm just going to say this. I hope we proved something to some doubters tonight with how well composed we were. Im really proud of this team and they have nothing to hang their heads about.
As always Dunk Haven!! It was a pleasure posting with you guys this year as well! We picked up a few new guys, stirred the pot along the way, I became a Starter LOL and I am looking forward to next season already!
Congrats to all the seniors on outstanding careers!
What could of been junkie. Eian, Vic, and sledge, just a pleasure to watch
I wouldn't throw anyone on your team under the bus. Both teams were missing free throws tonight and it could have gone either way. It was a well fought out game by both teams that was a thrill to see up close.
I sat right next to the AMC bench (because that is where I found a seat at the table) and enjoyed every minute of that game (while also paying attention to the rest of the country). I was impressed with how well AMC stayed composed throughout. They had some small moments where there was a complaint, a whine, a face... but nothing got out of hand, there was no berating of the officials, etc. I could clearly tell and hear that the team was focused on staying composed. That was a completely different approach, behavior plan, and thus team than I have seen over the years both in person and online. I was impressed and said as much to Coach Oliver after the game.
As for the final play... really no foul there. Sledge had the ball in mid-air, but as he landed Cox was able to get his hand on the ball and pop it loose and it fell right towards Hinnenkamp who calmly turned and laid it in. It was a terrific effort by Sledge to get the block in the first place after a beautiful baby-hook from Victor just ten feet from the basket on the other end. (By the way, good no-call by the refs on the timeout, because by the time Sledge landed and someone tried to call TO the ball was already coming loose.)
I will say that Davis getting into foul trouble and fouling out certainly hurt AMC a little bit. He sometimes got a little too wound up and had some silly fouls. The one in the first half where he got called for the intentional came back to bite him. It wasn't an intentional foul in terms of malice or anything... it was an intentional foul by the book as the steal created a face break which Davis broke up by grabbing the Dickinson player - but being he was the last man on defense, by rule that is an intentional. In that situation, just let the man go and give up the two points. Outside of that and some silly fouls, Davis played a very good game.
Victor played a terrific game, though took him a few minutes to adjust to Dickinson's first half and then second half defense. I do enjoy watching him play and it was too bad he was in foul trouble last year against Williams.
Sledge is terrific. Nice player who clearly can stay within himself most of the time. Had a moment late where he didn't like a call and the refs didn't seem to like what they perceived as him showing them up... but both the refs (for swallowing the whistle and not being too sensitive) and Sledge (for giving himself a moment to collect himself) handled it well.
It was an awesome game and AMC and their fans should hold their heads' high because AMC and Dickinson deserved to win that game.
Now... a tough moment after the game. Apparently Sledge in frustration punched the trophy case on his way to the locker room and that didn't go very well. At first it looked like there was a major problem with fans, but that turned out to be people reacting to something happening. I believe Sledge was seriously hurt and was taken to a local hospital was some serious wounds. I never saw the scene and didn't visit it afterward, but by most accounts it wasn't pretty. I wish him nothing but the best. I certainly can appreciate the frustration, but I am sure there is something better than a glass trophy case to express that frustration on.
Congrats on a great season, AMC. I am very comfortable with you guys at #10 on my ballot and I will admit now... I had the Falcons to the Elite Eight on my bracket.
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I wouldn't throw anyone on your team under the bus. Both teams were missing free throws tonight and it could have gone either way. It was a well fought out game by both teams that was a thrill to see up close.
I sat right next to the AMC bench (because that is where I found a seat at the table) and enjoyed every minute of that game (while also paying attention to the rest of the country). I was impressed with how well AMC stayed composed throughout. They had some small moments where there was a complaint, a whine, a face... but nothing got out of hand, there was no berating of the officials, etc. I could clearly tell and hear that the team was focused on staying composed. That was a completely different approach, behavior plan, and thus team than I have seen over the years both in person and online. I was impressed and said as much to Coach Oliver after the game.
As for the final play... really no foul there. Sledge had the ball in mid-air, but as he landed Cox was able to get his hand on the ball and pop it loose and it fell right towards Hinnenkamp who calmly turned and laid it in. It was a terrific effort by Sledge to get the block in the first place after a beautiful baby-hook from Victor just ten feet from the basket on the other end. (By the way, good no-call by the refs on the timeout, because by the time Sledge landed and someone tried to call TO the ball was already coming loose.)
I will say that Davis getting into foul trouble and fouling out certainly hurt AMC a little bit. He sometimes got a little too wound up and had some silly fouls. The one in the first half where he got called for the intentional came back to bite him. It wasn't an intentional foul in terms of malice or anything... it was an intentional foul by the book as the steal created a face break which Davis broke up by grabbing the Dickinson player - but being he was the last man on defense, by rule that is an intentional. In that situation, just let the man go and give up the two points. Outside of that and some silly fouls, Davis played a very good game.
Victor played a terrific game, though took him a few minutes to adjust to Dickinson's first half and then second half defense. I do enjoy watching him play and it was too bad he was in foul trouble last year against Williams.
Sledge is terrific. Nice player who clearly can stay within himself most of the time. Had a moment late where he didn't like a call and the refs didn't seem to like what they perceived as him showing them up... but both the refs (for swallowing the whistle and not being too sensitive) and Sledge (for giving himself a moment to collect himself) handled it well.
It was an awesome game and AMC and their fans should hold their heads' high because AMC and Dickinson deserved to win that game.
Now... a tough moment after the game. Apparently Sledge in frustration punched the trophy case on his way to the locker room and that didn't go very well. At first it looked like there was a major problem with fans, but that turned out to be people reacting to something happening. I believe Sledge was seriously hurt and was taken to a local hospital was some serious wounds. I never saw the scene and didn't visit it afterward, but by most accounts it wasn't pretty. I wish him nothing but the best. I certainly can appreciate the frustration, but I am sure there is something better than a glass trophy case to express that frustration on.
Congrats on a great season, AMC. I am very comfortable with you guys at #10 on my ballot and I will admit now... I had the Falcons to the Elite Eight on my bracket.
I've been a jerk at times in here, but only trying to be defensive of the team I love. Yes, I root for these guys like I do for my fav pro teams. It's my college and I take a lot of pride in this program, from what Mitch has made it. So I'll apologize for being a jerk on here, I was.as a Yankees and bills fan, that loss is up there with the music city miracle and d backs yanks game 7 in01. I was and still am devastated. Those three guys are so much better then a second rd heartbreaking loss. Such a bj e play by sledge and then that. These guys really deserved better, and the fact they are seniors is a am double whammy. I'm not sure Albertus will every have another trio like Davis Vic sledge. But thennnn again I'm not putting anything past Oliver. Hell of a season
Well, heartbreaking is the only word that comes to mind. I don't want to spend too much time on it but certain stats did us in and honestly, without my bias in favor the Falcons, we didn't deserve to win -
Between the two games we were 6 for 29 from 3 but more importantly, we were 30 FOR 58 FROM THE FREE THROW LINE. THAT'S 51.7%. We got away with in the first game, but in a true road game it's just not gonna get it done. We make a couple more free throws and we're moving on.
I don't want to pile on Julian especially since I was so in favor of him being inserted to the starting lineup. The shooting slump is one thing. As F13 said he was 1 for 17 from the field and 0 for 14 from 3. That's obviously not good but when you're in something like that you have to affect the game in other ways and that's where I'm disappointed. Between the two games he had 2 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 2 blocks and 2 turnovers. How does the 3rd tallest guy on the court for our team (at least to start) only have two rebounds in two games? Especially in such a run and gun system.
But again, to me it comes down to the free throws and getting defensive rebounds. I didn't get to watch much of the Dickinson game but Springfield was able to hang in the 2nd half because it seemed like every possession there was a second chance. One and done's are imperative in a lose and your out format.
This team is obviously going to look much different come next season. I think we won't be as good but who knows what Mitch has up his sleeve. Vic, Eian, and Sledge came out of nowhere so hopefully there's more of that to come. One thing I would like to focus on is the fact that the school now has A "Director of Sports Performance & Athletic Training." Article here - http://albertusfalcons.com/information/generalreleases/IvoWesseling (http://albertusfalcons.com/information/generalreleases/IvoWesseling) I know when I was a student-athlete all we ever received was a printed out packet from our coach with some generic off-season workout. I always wondered why we never had some sort of Strength and Conditioning coach to help with the athletic teams. Now that we have a gym space dedicated to just athletes I think this will be awesome for all sports. As far as the basketball team is concerned the only real transformation I can remember seeing is Darius cutting up once he became the go-to-guy. While Ray was the best to do it, imagine him with a real strength and conditioning program. Imagine Chi getting coached up off the court. Hopefully Ivo can come in and put some functional weight on guys like Lex, Chaunce, Jaqhawn, and turn Dashawn into a beast. I'm excited to see what the team looks like physically next season.
I was really impressed with Sledge this season. A lot of times I've seen D-I kids come into Division III with the apparent mindset that they can dominate because D-III is a lower level of basketball and they don't put in the time and effort to still be at their best. Clearly not the case here.
Looks like Dave has Mitch coming on tonight for Hoopsville so get your questions in! I asked one on Twitter about mitchs thoughts on the hiring of Ivo. I'd like to ask some recruiting questions but I imagine that's not allowed haha
EDIT: scratch that, it was an interview after the game Saturday.
Great interview with Mitch and also those from Dickinson as well. Wixted is very well spoken and the interview was a treat even from a Falcons Fan perspective. Interesting to here Mitch talk about retooling/reloading. While it's what we've come to expect from him, hearing him say that gives me a sense of optimism that he does have some things in the works! :)
LilDave, it's very exciting to hear Coach Oliver speak like that in regards to retooling. He is one hell of a recruiter and Coach. I heard some rumblings from what I think were family members of players and Coach Oliver's that he is already reloading with JUCO talent. The guy is just too good and to connected to not score these JUCO kids year after year. Selfishly I hope he stays at Albertus. He is obviously recruiting so that's a good sign but really that doesn't mean anything because you just can't sit around either.
The truth is that Coach Oliver isn't going to be here forever and every successful season that goes by (again selfishly) makes me more nervous and more nervous for the future of what he has built at this small school in New Haven that had absolutely nothing before he arrived.
He is destined for bigger and better things in the Coaching world but I just hope we get to continue to enjoy the success for at least one more season!! At least that's how I am going to take it. 1 Year at a time from here on out!
I am going to post my final thoughts on the season later on today including my thoughts on the final game and what the future just might hold for our beloved Falcons!
General question for posters here, although it kind of applies specifically to Albertus, given their recruiting: What do you think of transfers (JUCO specifically)? I ask as an Amherst fan - their coach landed 2 D1 transfers.
On the one hand, they come in with a year of experience - in the case of Amherst's recruits, that year was spent practicing/even playing a little against D1 talent; on the other hand, it takes away time from developing with the team for which one ultimately ends up playing.
With JUCO transfers specfically, they've had TWO years at a different program. Do you think this gives an advantage/disadvantage in any sense? Does it prevent a coach from being fully able to mold/model a program? Or is the targeting of transfers itself a certain model?
I'd say it's certainly a model. Probably not the FULL model but a big piece of whatever Coach Oliver's FULL model is. With us specifically it's only recent that we've seen the influx of JUCO talent. It started with Vic and Eian and Marcus Walker two years ago. This yeah he brought in Sledge (D1, not JUCO) who was awesome but otherwise it was Dayron Caldwell, Shaq Mitchell, and Dashawn Carter (late in the year) and none made a significant impact. Freshman Jaqhawn Walters, Lex Perez, and Chaunce Dunbar all played much more.
I think Mitch specifically likes a balance. He's found something that has brought him success. He knows there are JUCO kids that fall through the cracks who are probably given the ultimatum - keep playing basketball at a lower level than they expected, or don't play at all. However it may be, he connects with these kids. Everything I've heard from former players is that they love Mitch and that he's much more than just a coach to them.
The biggest problem d3 schools have with JUCO players is fitting them into the campus culture. A lot of these schools are very small (less than 1000 undergrads) - that can make it difficult for any student to transfer in, let alone one for whom a lot of free time is taken up with basketball.
Ideally you'd avoid creating a system where the athletes are separate from the rest of the students, but it's easy to let happen when you're not intentional about integrating them.
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I'd say it's certainly a model. Probably not the FULL model but a big piece of whatever Coach Oliver's FULL model is. With us specifically it's only recent that we've seen the influx of JUCO talent. It started with Vic and Eian and Marcus Walker two years ago. This yeah he brought in Sledge (D1, not JUCO) who was awesome but otherwise it was Dayron Caldwell, Shaq Mitchell, and Dashawn Carter (late in the year) and none made a significant impact. Freshman Jaqhawn Walters, Lex Perez, and Chaunce Dunbar all played much more.
I think Mitch specifically likes a balance. He's found something that has brought him success. He knows there are JUCO kids that fall through the cracks who are probably given the ultimatum - keep playing basketball at a lower level than they expected, or don't play at all. However it may be, he connects with these kids. Everything I've heard from former players is that they love Mitch and that he's much more than just a coach to them.
I'll put it this way. Davis put up a pic praising Oliver and saying he's his walking role model. He obviously connects with these kids
I saw the posts that you guys placed on the Centennial board. What a very gracious and classy thing to do. Your passion for your team is exceeded only by your good sportsmanship and your love for the game. Congratulations on a great season.
Saint, we appreciate the kind words. I think I can speak for all of the Albertus supporters, we all look forward to your knowledgeable and witty post. I sincerely hope to see Emmanuel and the other GNAC teams continue to improve each year. It would be nice to have the GNAC be considered as strong a conference as the NEWMAC. I believe it can be done, there are some pretty good talent in New England. It just takes institutional support and a little bit of luck.
We were fortunate to watch a really good basketball team for two years. We hope it continues.
We are also thankful to have Pat and Dave support D3 hoops with this venue. We won't always agree with Pat or Dave, but we respect them, because all they want is to see young men develop into good citizens while playing a good brand of basketball. Win or lose - we just want to see good basketball.
Go Falcons. Dunk Haven. And Nothing is better than D3!
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I was really impressed with Sledge this season. A lot of times I've seen D-I kids come into Division III with the apparent mindset that they can dominate because D-III is a lower level of basketball and they don't put in the time and effort to still be at their best. Clearly not the case here.
He did score 20 points on Aaron Craft on the ncaa's. As legit as they come
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Saint, we appreciate the kind words. I think I can speak for all of the Albertus supporters, we all look forward to your knowledgeable and witty post. I sincerely hope to see Emmanuel and the other GNAC teams continue to improve each year. It would be nice to have the GNAC be considered as strong a conference as the NEWMAC. I believe it can be done, there are some pretty good talent in New England. It just takes institutional support and a little bit of luck.
We were fortunate to watch a really good basketball team for two years. We hope it continues.
We are also thankful to have Pat and Dave support D3 hoops with this venue. We won't always agree with Pat or Dave, but we respect them, because all they want is to see young men develop into good citizens while playing a good brand of basketball. Win or lose - we just want to see good basketball.
Go Falcons. Dunk Haven. And Nothing is better than D3!
Agree Falcons2010. Sucks, are best team ever, and were ousted in second rd. so goes March madness
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Quote from: falcons2010 on March 09, 2015, 09:29:07 PM
Saint, we appreciate the kind words. I think I can speak for all of the Albertus supporters, we all look forward to your knowledgeable and witty post. I sincerely hope to see Emmanuel and the other GNAC teams continue to improve each year. It would be nice to have the GNAC be considered as strong a conference as the NEWMAC. I believe it can be done, there are some pretty good talent in New England. It just takes institutional support and a little bit of luck.
We were fortunate to watch a really good basketball team for two years. We hope it continues.
We are also thankful to have Pat and Dave support D3 hoops with this venue. We won't always agree with Pat or Dave, but we respect them, because all they want is to see young men develop into good citizens while playing a good brand of basketball. Win or lose - we just want to see good basketball.
Go Falcons. Dunk Haven. And Nothing is better than D3!
Agree Falcons2010. Sucks, are best team ever, and were ousted in second rd. so goes March madness
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I predicted the winner of that game to the Final Four, so we'll see how Dickinson does this weekend. They're certainly good enough to win it all under the right circumstances.
Saints Season in Review 2014 - 15
Back in November the discussion about the GNAC conference was that only the top two spots were secure, all the other spots were up for grabs. That makes this past season even more disappointing to reflect upon. The Saints started out the year with every opportunity to grab the third or fourth conference spot and ended up limping into sixth place. Anna Maria, St Joe, and Lasell were the teams that stepped up their level of play and grabbed the top playoff spots. The Saints needed a win over Suffolk on the last day of the regular season just to avoid a three way tie for eighth place. The Saints finished the season at 10 - 16, their sixth losing season in a row, and 109 losses in the last sixth years, the worst record of any GNAC team since November 2009. The Saints went 1 -14 against teams with above 0.500 records, the lone win being a playoff upset over Anna Maria late in the year. They beat zero 0.500 level teams during the regular season. With the addition of the two JUCO big men, and returning some athletic guards, on paper the Saints had the talent to compete for a third or fourth spot, but again some poor coaching decisions held this team back. Using 21 different starting line ups in 26 games had the players confused and looking over their shoulders every time they stepped onto the court. How could the second best center in the conference play in all 26 games but start only 20 ? How does the team captain, and only player in the last three years not to quit the team, get benched for 8 games in the middle of the playoff hunt? Trying to press and run against more athletic opponents led to a demoralizing atmosphere during and after games. In one game this year against an athletic team the Saints held a 9 point halftime lead and then came out of the locker room to give up a 60 point second half by trying to run with a team they should have been slowing down. Good college teams don't give up 60 points in a whole game. Giving the green light to non shooters to launch threes eliminated valuable post touches that again cost the Saints winnable games. The Saints shot only 26% from behind the arc for the year but attempted 388 three point shots, why? All the shooters who were on the team in the last four years quit because they don't run any plays. Running wild downcourt with every rebound, outlet pass, or steal led to a whopping 448 turnovers but nobody was ever told to pull the ball out and run a play. Again, a very negative assist to turnover ratio ( 0.7 ) for the season showed a complete lack of discipline and lack of basketball fundamentals. Any time you are throwing the ball away more than setting up teammates for baskets, you are just not a well coached team. And when it happens six years in a row it is habit, not coincidence. Adding nine new players to the roster again this year is nothing new, that happens every year, but it enhances the lack of team chemistry and lack of cohesive play that good teams show. The Saints had no four year players on the roster this year, that recruiting class from four years ago are all long gone. If it weren't for the JUCO transfers that come in every year there wouldn't be enough players to field a team. Have to wait until next November to see how many of these guys come back. Like the Cubs fans always say, " wait till next year ".
Congrats to Vic and Tavon for being named to the all region team, first and second teams respectively.
I don't know if anyone is still monitoring the page, but anyone know Vic's plans for the future. I assume he's going to try and play professionally somewhere. He's certainly got the right game and size for it.
Hoops, I heard that a highlight film was made to send around. Not sure if it was for the all star game or for scouts.
Big Vic had 31 points and 10 rebounds in the All Star game on Saturday in Salem. He was the leading scorer and tied for the most rebounds.
Here's a link to the box score: https://twitter.com/d3hoops/status/579336822074953730
Saw the short video clips of the Albertus and the St Joe incoming recruits. The Albertus recruit from Notre Dame HS in CT looked very athletic and intense on defense. It was a short clip but it showed him defending passing lanes very well, stealing the ball, and finishing with a thundering dunk. The St Joe recruit from Londonberry HS in NH looked to be a very smooth 3 point shooter, with nice form, and good size, about 6'4" or 6'5" and plays on the perimeter. I found it very interesting that both teams try to recruit the type of player that fits into their system. Albertus goes after the athletic defender who can dunk and St Joe goes after the long range pure shooter. I am sure that the Emmanuel coach would also try to recruit players who fit into his system , if he had a system. Does playing helter skelter count as a basketball system? If it does, then I guess he does recruit players who fit into his system!! Ha, Ha, Ha.
Saint Paul do you have a name? I'm assuming CJ Davidson?
Yes, it was the Davidson clip that was posted on You Tube. It was only 10 seconds long but he did look very athletic and intense on defense.
New England Recruiting Report has him listed at 5'10 so if he's throwing down dunks, maybe we'll have Sledge 2.0 haha
LilDave,
Not quite a Sledge 2.0 but CJ Anderson in his own right is a very good young player. A really outstanding true freshman to bring in for the upcoming season.
I can't wait to see who else Oliver can bring in. I have heard rumors and I suppose we should all know at this point that he will continue to bring in JUCO talent year after year. With every successful season it only makes it easier for Coach Oliver to use his contacts and land top JUCO transfers who aren't necessarily D3 players.
Eian and Sledge were outstanding players but in my opinion the guard position for D3 is the easiest to reload with. The biggest loss is by far Big Vic. I mean players like him of his size and skillset don't come around too often at the D3 level. He was so involved in every aspect of the game and will no doubt be the toughest to replace. I still can't wait to see what the offseason brings forward.
Just read that UMASS-Boston is only interviewing D-1 assistants and D-3 Head Coaches for their open position. Hope the Saints coach is one of D-3 guys getting an interview. Please hire him. Please, please, please, please hire him.
Guys I am extremely nervous. The head coach at Southern CT (D2) has resigned and taken a job in Florida. I have to think that Coach Oliver will no doubt and rightfully so be on there radar. I highly doubt they would be able to find a more qualified recruiter for the area not to mention one as successful as Coach Oliver has been.
It's the offseason, I suppose I always new this day was coming.
All we can do now is wait and see!!
Like the juxtaposition of the last two posts. You are afraid that your coach will bill hired away from your program and i am afraid that mine won't. hahahaha. we shall have to wait and see.
Yes Saint I found that to be pretty comical myslef LOL
We can add another commitment for the Falcons. Per the New England Recruiting Report website Ryan Pittman a 6'0" guard from Bunnel HS in Stratford has committed to Coach Oliver and Albertus Magnus.
I personally have never seen him play but I distinctively remember reading about him numerous times in the CT Post. From my readings he is a polished scoring guard who can get to the rim and really improved his shooting from his Junior to Senior season. Another good get for Albertus. A true freshman!
CJ Davidson and Ryan Pittman so far!
Where's my Albertus posters at this off-season??? Has anyone heard of any more recruits that are headed to New Haven? We got the 2 true freshmen I have mentioned so far but has anyone heard of anybody else?? Maybe a few more JUCO studs??? I know Oliver is going to reload so we might just have to wait and see.
The only interesting thing I heard this offseason so far was that Oliver was expanding his recruiting base and going after talent in Mass and North of CT now instead of primarily and almost exclusively the NY/NJ and CT area. It was just a rumor I heard and I don't know how much truth is to it but who knows. At this point I am pretty sure this guy can recruit anywhere and land talent. If he is headed to Mass and other areas I am sure other D3 Coaches who are more familiar with those areas will try and buckle down guys much sooner if they know Oliver is in the "area"!! I know I certainly would if I were them!
Saw the You Tube Video on the Albertus recruit Ryan Pitmann. Very sharp pass first point guard. His video showed him finding open men all over the court. He was quick and athletic with a good handle. His quick first step helped set up his passing by blowing by his man, drawing a helping defender, and then dishing the ball for an easy layup. The video did not show his shooting ability. His only offense was a few layups off dribble penetration, but still, a very valuable point guard.
The only other recruiting news that I saw was Lasell signing a very sharp passing point guard from Malden HS in Ct. His was also listed as a pass first type of point guard. I think those type of players are very valuable to a programs success.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on May 28, 2015, 09:06:14 PM
Saw the You Tube Video on the Albertus recruit Ryan Pitmann. Very sharp pass first point guard. His video showed him finding open men all over the court. He was quick and athletic with a good handle. His quick first step helped set up his passing by blowing by his man, drawing a helping defender, and then dishing the ball for an easy layup. The video did not show his shooting ability. His only offense was a few layups off dribble penetration, but still, a very valuable point guard.
The only other recruiting news that I saw was Lasell signing a very sharp passing point guard from Malden HS in Ct. His was also listed as a pass first type of point guard. I think those type of players are very valuable to a programs success.
Even better, of course, is a true PG who can also take over the scoring directly when needed. Those come along in D3 at most perhaps 1-2 times a year (for the entire division). IWU had one who won the national title as a freshman, was on D3hoops all-decade first team, but saw his best teammates graduate, and learned how much good luck (in addition to talent) is required to make a deep playoff run: Korey Coon never made it back to Salem.
Good friend of mine who has close ties to the team told me over the weekend that Coach Oliver and Albertus landed a stud combo guard from NY as well as a few other extremely solid recruits and JUCO players. He wont give me any names of the players but he assured me they are all top talent players for the D3 level.
From what he said, this recruiting class could be Oliver's best in terms of overall skill and depth. I hope this is true! I cant wait for the season to come around.
Does anyone know of any other happening for the Falcons this off season????
Have never seen any update after Tavon Sledge's injury at Dickinson. I've thought about him often after that evening and wondered how he made out. Anyone know?
I have been told he will or has recovered just fine, though he certainly did a good amount of damage to his arm which required a good amount of recovery and physical therapy (if my memory serves).
Watched with envy this summer as several New England schools changed coaches. UMass Boston, Wheelock, Western New England, Johnson State, and Curry College all selected new coaches. Good luck to all the new coaches in the area. Saints fans are jealous.
Saint - I have to say I always look forward to seeing your name on the boards. Always fun to read your latest rant or jab at the Saints head coach.....even in the off-season!
As for us Falcon fans I almost couldn't believe my eyes!! The schedule for the 2015-2016 season is out! Its never out this early which is exciting because it just means we're that much closer to the start of the season. I will dig into the non conference opponents a little later and write another post about the overall strength (or lack there of) of this seasons non conference slate.
In other Falcon news per albertusfalcons.com our Head Coach and savior Mitch Oliver will be one of the speakers at the Nutmeg State Games Coaches Clinic. A nice honor for Oliver to be chosen considering the other Coaches who were also chosen are all very high level and highly respected Coaches within the State of Connecticut. Howie Dickerman from D1 Central Conn, Tom Moore from D1 Quinnipiac and James Jones from D1 Ivy League Yale just to name a few. It says that Coach Oliver will be going over offense and the transition game which to me and I'm sure all Falcon supporters would agree is just so fitting. Oliver is a tremendous offensive mind and that is evident in the stats that his teams have put up nation wide during his tenure as Head Coach. Congrats Coach Oliver!
Lastly....Recruiting!! It has been so quiet this off season I have to say I am a little nervous! Normally by now we have heard of at least 1 or 2 studs that Oliver has landed but I haven't heard any specific names yet other than rumors of a few really polished transfers. The only thing I know for sure is that he has a true PG coming in from out of state that is suppose to be outstanding. I don't know his name but I was told that he is official and that he is a true freshman which is even better. I have a feeling we arent going to get any info until the seasons first game this year.....unless anyone else would care to elaborate????????? PLEASE!!!!
This year could be the first time in a long time that the Saints
break out of the bottom of the GNAC conference. On paper they are
returning two quality big men, four athletic guards, and a small forward
with three years of varsity experience. How that same lineup managed
only 7 conference wins last year is still a mystery to Saints fans.
Especially since at least 10 conference games fall into the category of
" gimmies ".
It is always difficult to make any preseason predictions about the
Saints upcoming season without seeing the new roster because the Saints
coach does not have a strong track record of player retention. It is
not just freshman who quit on this guy, it is sophomores, juniors, and
seniors, it is leading scorers and rebounders, it is starting point
guards, it is team captains. It will be interesting to see which
players return from last years team. If all or most of the players who
started games last year return again, this Saints team has a good shot
of finishing in the top 4 spots in the GNAC. They should win at least
12, maybe 13 GNAC games. Well, then again, it was a weak conference last
year also and the Saints still only managed 7 conference wins, so Saints
fans can't take anything for granted.
Do you guys see any potential shift upwards in the bottom of the GNAC other than the Saints? JWU and ST Joe should be back on top along with Anna Maria. How will Albertus be this year? They lost a lot of points, rebounds, and assists to graduation. Does Albertus remain in the top three spots?
Saint,
There is certainly going to be a shakeup in the conference this year with the exception of the top spot which clearly belongs to JWU. I think the parity overall of the conference in terms of competition may be the best it has been in a number of years. But with that being said I believe JWU will be the clear favorite to take this year GNAC Championship. From a pure talent standpoint they are hands down the favorite and if you look at what Oliver and Albertus must replace I am afraid it may not happen this year.
I still think that Albertus will be in the top 3.......And I firmly believe that as long as Oliver is there they will never fall below a top 5 in the conference. He has established such a great reputation in terms of recruiting and being a coach that guys love to play for and I think that speaks for itself especially when you look at his record and the way he has turned this program around and made them relevant nationally.
So here is my preseason rankings if you will.......And by the way Saint I believe that the Saints could be primed for a much improved year!
1. JWU - So much talent returning, well coached and ready to finally get their shot!
2. Albertus - Coaching, Coaching, Coaching, Oliver will have this relatively young squad ready to go and JWU better not take them lightly come GNAC tourney time
3. St. Joes - Very well coach team who is disciplined and seems to do all the little things right, Not to mention nobody likes traveling to Standish to face these sharpshooters
4. Lasell - Without question one of the better coached teams but I just dont see them making a big jump this season. They play as hard as anyone though
5. Anna Maria - Solid team who is very tough at home but lacks the superior talent to win out on the road
6. Rivier - My wild card pick but they do return everyone except one player...I just don't know if they have the discipline and coaching to really make this jump
7. Emmanuel - Coaching is the only thing that will deter this team from improving.....They certainly have talent
8. Norwich - A team you never think about but they always play hard and most importantly they play the game right
9. Suffolk - New Coach New Regime could spell for a long season for the Rams.....Program turnarounds normally take time to develope
10. Mt. Ida - Yikes.....While they do return some talent including Duhon who I think will be an all conference player....its another long season for this bunch
Well, some good news and some bad news about the Saints roster. The bad news is that five underclassmen from last year are no longer on the team. The good news is that only one of them was a starter, a guard, so both big men are back again this year. How the Saint's coach gets away without being held accountable for the worst player retention record in the GNAC every year is still a mystery to Saints fans. So, with both big men back I am predicting that the Saints will finish fourth this year, behind JWU, Albertus, and St Joe. Both Anna Maria and Lasell had trouble containing the Saints big man last year and I see that trend continuing again this year. I see the Saints " twin towers" causing problems for all the bottom GNAC teams and possibly an upset or two with some of the top conference teams. I will be the most interesting conference play in a long time and a lot of the games will be meaningful right into mid February. Enjoy the season GNAC fans.
Didn't realize the Suffolk coach left until reading D3HoopJunkies post from last week. I checked in with one of my buddy's in the league and he told me today that he is that guy that runs HoopDirt.com. I never knew that.
I posted this on the All American Board yesterday so I copied it here for all Albertus and GNAC supporters
Former Albertus Magnus standout center Victor Ljuljdjuraj has signed a professional contract with Hoverla Ivano-Frankivsk of the Ukrainian Basketball Superleague. Congrats to Big Vic......He was a truly gifted D3 Player who was a tremendous defender and equally great scorer. I wish him all the best as he was a really nice young man too. Went out on the court every night and played the game right.......Rarely complained and always had the same calm and relaxed expression on his face yet underneath it all he was the ultimate competitor.
Also from what I found Big Vic posted a double double in his first game with the team.
I have been hearing news that both Eian Davis and Tavon Sledge, 2 really gifted guards from last season teams are also looking to make the move to professional basketball as well. Will update accordingly if I hear any more news.
Is it Friday Yet!!!!!!
GNACALUM55.......Good to have you back. Thats very intersting about the Suffolk coach. I had no idea he was the one who ran and operated that website. Certainly interesting. Is he devoting his time just to that now or did he find another job? Perhaps he can post his plan on his website since I would certainly consider that HoopDirt worthy news!!
Couple days away from the season tip off and I am a little disappointed as it looks like this board may have lost a few posters (in particular Albertus Fans)
Normally the regular's have chimed in by now with some Albertus dirt of their own but it is not looking to good. Hopefully with all the recent success and with this years team looking more or less like a retooling year (I will not use the term rebuild) that this will not deter people from supporting and coming out if they do have what now would be considered an off year. Boy have we become spoiled LOL. Anyone remeber being lucky enough to win a single game before Oliver showed up? Because I sure do!!
Good luck getting back your "friends" D3HJ - last year I ended up talking to myself about 90% of the time on the NEWMAC board!
D3HoopsJunkie,
Interesting story...I actually just texted with him (he lists his personal cell # on the HoopDirt web site). Just lobbed a text into him to see what would happen and asked what he was up to. This was his response:
"Thanks for reaching out brother. All is well on my end. HD got big, fast, so I need to focus my energy on running this thing for a while. Been a lot of fun! Will follow the GNAC closely this season - great coaches in the league. Keep in touch. DK/AN"
Thanks WPI......Maybe I'll make a few appearances on the NEWMAC Board this year! I like to follow the NEWMAC as well and have much respect for the majority of the programs within that conference (Basically Everyone Except Springfield) Your league is consistent year in and year out and always produces a team that competes well come March.
GNACAlum55......That's very interesting! Good for him! Was Suffolk a full time head coaching position or part time? Either way it appears he is following something he truly enjoys and wish him all the best. I thought his color commentary was excellent the past 2 years in the GNAC Championship coverage as well. Not sure if you have said it before but what school did you play for? If you don't mind me asking?
D3HJ,
I played at Riv back in the early days of the GNAC (mid-90's). I was there before a lot of the current kids on the roster were born!
Look forward to following the league again this year. Sounds like JWU could be the team to beat.
still here my friends haha, just as a 2010 graduate this is my first year where I have NO ties to the team. With a full time job and a wedding to plan for it's tough to carve out some time for a "team I never played for" (fiances words haha though of course I played soccer). However, I did catch a good chunk of this game and I'm as intrigued as ever...not because I know we'll win the GNAC or make it it to the Sweet 16, but outside of Walters its a crap shoot to me. This team doesn't have anyone going pro (At the moment, congrats Big Vic by the way!) but this could be the most balanced team we've had in a while. Balanced could be mistaken for underrated which I'm kind of hoping happens. The ball movement was absurd today against a decent team (by decent I mean not the bottom half of the GNAC). It was almost too unselfish, but I'm looking forward to see how this team grows together.
I know Neri is coming off a major injury but hes still a 7 footer playing D3 and he made little difference tonight. That showed me this team can formulate a plan and execute!
New season, new players, new line up, same result. From the Regis tournament, Saints lose to Emerson 76 - 64. Emmanuel played catch up the whole game. Just 6 minutes into the contest Saints were down 21 - 8. By halftime it got worse, 45 - 30 . Through the first 20 minutes of this game the Saints big man had only one low post touch from their set offense. I just don't get that game plan? Maybe Emmanuel was using their big man as a decoy so that their non shooters could get open looks from the perimeter. Well, it worked, the Saints guards shot 2 - 26 from the 3 pt line. Again, the Saints had only 8 assists for the whole game. That lack of ball movement directly reflects on other parts of the game. Poor shot selection leads to run outs for the other team, defensive misplacement, and unnecessary fouls. Saints big man finished with a 20 point night mostly through his own efforts.
Consolation game tomorrow against Wentworth. Let see if the Saints can hold them under 45 points for the first half.
Albertus Magnus alert - freshman Shontaey Lovell went for 21 and 17! in their opening win tonight. That's against a seven footer, too (granted one apparently hobbled by his injury last year, but still).
I was impressed with this team in last nights victory. It was a very sloppy game and they certainly need to improve but overall I thought it was a good first test for this extremely young Falcons squad. Let not get to carried away here because it was the first game of the season, but again I was fairly impressed.
HoopsFan.....Shontaey Lovell was absolutely sensational. To think this kid is a true freshman is amazing. If you see this kid and look at his body, he is so developed and so strong already its downright scary. He is going to be a force for Coach Oliver for a long time! You cant teach a kid how to rebound, you have to just have instincts and be a beast and he has all of these qualities.
Jaqwan Walters had himself and excellent game as well. At 6'6 he is about as skilled an athlete for his size that you will see at this level. His ability to put the ball on the floor and get to the rim is uncanny for a kid his size and he's only a sophomore. He sometimes gets a little bit to out of control but that is what you get with youth!
Chaunce Dunbar's shot will come along as he will be looked to as major scoring contributor for this season. He can really light it up.
The PG position worries me a little because last nights PG depth and overall performance was a bit concerning but there was a kid on the bench named Bernard Kline who didnt play but from what I understand he is dealing with a bit of an injury. Once he is healed up, I think he will be our go to guy.
Marshall James.....Our 6'8 center was bothered by 2 quick (ridiculous) fouls early so he never got going but when he was in the game he looked a little bit lost. He is very skilled for a kid his size but he really needs to improve on the mental part of this game.
Marc Wilson, our senior and leader was hobbled a bit last night. Looked like he twisted his ankle and never returned. This team will no doubt need him to contribute this season so lets hope he recovers quickly.
I really like this team. They are gritty, they are scrappy and they looked hungry to learn. They listened to Coach Oliver and looked eager to play with each other. They are going to be just fine this season. I am not saying they will go undefeated but we will be in every contest and come February when the games really count, I guarantee no one will want to see the Falcons and Coach Oliver come GNAC tourney time.
This is the Saint reporting from the Regis tournament where the start of the the new 15 -16 season looks a lot like the start of last year, and the year before that, and the year before that. Saints finish the tip off tournament going 0 -2 losing the consolation round to a less than powerhouse Wentworth team. This game was a carbon copy of last nights game, with the Saints getting off to a slow start going down 26 - 7 just 10 minutes into the start of the game. For the second straight night the Saints defense gave up 45 points in the first half and the Saints played catch up the rest of the way. The Saints big man recorded another double / double and the guards kept up their torrid pace going 2 - 13 from behind the 3 point line. That is 15% for the math majors out there, an improvement of 8% over last night's baseline mark. At the D-3 level recruiting spot up shooters can't be all that difficult. HS players who can knock down shots but don't have the foot speed to play at a D-2 or D-1 level are all over the place. All of the Saints opponents appear to have no trouble recruiting them. Well, I guess a starting line up change is in store for the next three or four Saints game until we find the correct combination. I thought that was what 4 weeks of preseason practice was for. On to the next game.
Anna Maria got a solid come from behind win against an always tough Becker team. Fell behind by as much as twenty and came back to win in OT. Rough night from Bradenese, shot like 30% from the field and 25% from 3pt range. Pryor and delorey carried the load for the amcats yesterday. Tough test coming up for them as they travel to Amherst and then Clark back to back on monday and tuesday.
Nice update eslaps! Can we expect you to be a GNAC contributor this season??? Judging by your posts I am assuming you are an AMCAT supporter? Would love to get more discussion on here regarding some other GNAC teams seeing as this board is dominated by Albertus fans.....myself included!
I wish there was someone out there affiliated with JWU who would contribute to this thread! I am sure there would be a few real nice discussions considering the rivalry that has become Falcons vs. Wildcats
Albertus 99 Mitchell 91.........What an ugly game!!!
I was not able to attend in person last night but watched the broadcast over the computer and lets just say I am glad I didn't waste the gas on a trip to New London.
It was a win and with a squad as young as Oliver's this season you just have to take it and move forward. Albertus came out I thought really well jumping out to a 20 point lead in the 1st half. They moved the ball well, played somewhat in control with the exception of a few bad TO's and Chaunce Dunbar was absolutely lighting it up from deep.
And thennnnnnnn the 2nd Half started. Mitchell came out looking to attack more with there guards and was fortunate to hit a few shots that were just flat out lucky bounces and rolls. This bothered the young Falcon squad a great deal. I knew that road games this season were going to be interesting but the amount of TO's and just bonehead plays that took place simply can not happen on the road against teams like JWU, St. Joes, Lasell or even Anna Maria. These teams will take advantage of the mistakes and it will cost you a win.
Last night they won out simply because they were still a more talented and balanced team. We certainly have a new look to our squad this year and I am kind of liking it even though the struggles will be there all season long! Shontaey Lovell with another monster game. Back to back double doubles to start his career with 17 rebounds a piece in each game. I cant believe this kid is a freshman. Mark my words.....if he continues to work hard and focus......Oliver will have another All-American to add to the banners in 3 years. I think he has just as much if not more potential then Ray Askew when he stepped into The Nest a few years ago!
Saints push their early season record to 0 - 3 with an afternoon loss to Westfield State. Saints followed a familiar pattern getting down by double digits early in the game and trying to play catch up. The half time score was 34 - 21. Saints opened the game with their trademark full court press and gave up a lot of easy transition baskets that Westfield didn't have to run a set offense to score. A majority of Westfield's baskets came from the press break and from transition off of the Saints missed 3 point shots. Not sure why it is so difficult to coach college players to sprint back on defense after a missed shot. The Saints offense was again erratic taking a lot of off balanced, and forced shots from the perimeter. It looked like they were trying to bait Westfield into playing an up and down wide open style. It didn't work. When Westfield had the chance to run they did so successfully, when they didn't they pulled the ball out and ran a patient offense. With the Saints down by 18 points late in the game, under 2 minutes, the Saints coach ordered his players to keep fouling to stop the clock and put Westfield on the free throw line. Not sure what purpose that served, Westfield already had all their deep bench subs in the game?
The big story of the game was the Saints big man on the sideline in street clothes. Not sure if he was sick or injured, but without him the Saints team looked lost at both ends of the floor. If he is out for any significant amount of time it will put a damper on the Saints hopes for a fourth place finish this year. The frustrations of an 0 - 3 start to the season were seen on the Saints sideline as the coach had several explosions at both his own players and the game officials.
So far this month Emmanuel, Rivier, Lasell, and Suffolk are a combined 1 - 12, against non league opponents. I guess these guys can't wait for the GNAC games to start so they can beat up on each other !
Hey Fellow GNAC fans...I am sorry I haven't been on; forgot my password and work has kept me too busy. But, the young falcons as I have been calling them in my head are off to a 2-0 start. There are a lot of new faces. I think these guys can grow into something special; maybe not this year, but Coach Oliver has some guys who can play. I believe the GNAC will be open this year. Most basketball coaches want their guys to develop and get better to be ready to play in February; I wonder if Coach Oliver is going to use the regular season as an extended pre-season to get these guys ready for a playoff run. Also, let's see if there is a mid year transfer or 2 coming in.
I was shocked to see no Lex Perez on the roster. I thought he along with Walters and Lovell would make for a very good unit. Disappointing end to Jennings Falcon career last year. I thought he might come back this year, but that isn't happening.
We were very spoiled the last 2 years. The best teams in falcon history! Albertus takes a step back, but still should finish top 3 in a weak GNAC conference.
Let's go Falcons!!!
PS. I remember the days we had more guys on the roster than wins; and there were more points scored than fans in the seats.
J&W looks really good so far. I'd guess J&W and Albertus will be 1-2 in some order with probably St. Joes (Maine) and Lasell grabbing the 3 & 4 spots in some order, with Anna Maria looking like the sleeper who could crash the top 4 party.
Amcats with a loss last night to #5 Amherst. Team was scrappy all night, trailing by 3 at half and it was a seven point game with 8 minutes remaining and then things got away from them. They got thoroughly outrebounded with Amherst scoring a ton of second chance points. The amcats also only got the the line 2 times all night... 2 times!
Bradanese had some type of mask on, so I'm assuming he broke his nose? Still put up 20....
Always a tough, competitive game against Clark University tonight.
Also, not sure AMC would be considered a sleeper to crack the top 4 when they've been in the GNAC championship 3 of the past 5 years (the past two they haven't), were a number 3 seed last year and were picked as the preseason number 3.
Welcome Back Falcons2010!!! I was wondering if you were going to show up this season! Glad to have you back.
A little insider info here from a newly acquired and what I think will be a reputable source is that the team just may be landing a BIG TIME transfer for the second half of this season. And I dont just mean big time as in his performance I mean BIGGGG as in 6'9 power post player!!! Will see what happens!!
At this point I would never count Oliver and the Falcons out of any contest. If they can get a true freak center and have JQ and Lovell play there natural power forward positions this team can be scary good and scary young.
I was able to get to the Rivier versus New England College game tonight. Gonna be a looong year for the Raiders. Ruff and the transfer from Lasell can play. Not sure if they can match their 4 wins from last year though, I think it hurts to lose Jake Nelson's leadership. I will see them early next month vs. JWU, that should be an interesting one.
Nice article in the D3 News about the Emmanuel women's coach on the bench for 39 years and coaching his 1,000 th game last week. He won 750 of those games. That's a nice record, and a nice coaching career. Let's hope the men's coach doesn't try and stay for a 1000 games. That could mean another 700 or 800 losses for the men's team.
Dave Morissette has resigned at River...
http://hoopdirt.com/diii-dirt-morissette-resigns-at-rivier-university-nh/
Saints pull off a big upset win over St Joe, 37 - 58, for their first win of the season. It has been years since Emmanuel beat St Joe. The game was not exactly well played, both teams started out cold with a 4 - 4 tie 6 minutes into the first half. Then the Saints big man took control at both ends posting another double / double. St Joe got into foul trouble trying to guard Emmanuel's center. The Saints played their typical game, only scoring 58 points on 38% shooting and missing 50% of their free throws but it was enough to beat a very lackluster St Joe team. St Joe looked unsure of themselves, missing wide open shots, showing no dribble penetration to rim, and almost zero transition game. This was the worst I have seen St Joe play in years. The predictions back in November about a wide open GNAC this year are about to come true. If Emmanuel can go into Maine, play mediocre , and come away with a 20 point win, the whole conference is upside down.
Amcats overcome slow start and beat an improved Norwich team by 11 on Tuesday. Not an impressive win by the Amcats, but a W nonetheless. Breakout game for point guard Jean-Louis who had 15 points, all in 2nd half. Amcats improve to 4-2 with only losses coming to Babson and Amherst, both nationally ranked teams.
Up to Riv tonight, going up against a team that lost to Lasell by 3 on the road...
Saints lost to Albertus by a final score of 84 - 73. Saints opened the game with a tight 3 - 2 zone and slowed down the quick Albertus athletes allowing the Saints rebounders to get inside position. This is something i have been suggesting for about five years now. It kept the Saints from getting blown out early and allowed them to stay in the game and to take a small lead into the locker room at halftime. At least the Saints didn't come out pressing and running, they slowed the pace of the game and were able to hang around for almost three quarters of the game. By contrast, Albertus opened the game in straight man to man, and surprisingly did not double the Saints big man on the low post. They played it straight man with the guards staying on the perimeter with their assignments. Wilson and Lovell exploded in the second half leading Albertus to 55 second half points. The Albertus footspeed showed through in the second half.
I thought the key half time adjustment for Albertus was setting the high post screen on the Saints defender in the top of the zone. This forced the Saints wing to cover two players opposite the ball, one on the wing and one on the baseline. Once the Saints defender made a decision which player to cover, Lovell would flash quickly into the high post area where he was wide open. This didn't happen in the first half where the Saints defender in the top of the zone was allowed to sag into the high post area and cover Lovell. Nice halftime adjustment.
This is not the first time the Saints gave up over 50 points in the second half of a game. They did it a few times last year also. Not sure what adjustments the Saints coach is making at halftime but they are not working.
Saints shot 25% behind the arc, 50% from the free throw line, and committed 19 turnovers. Saints big man again posted a double / double, his fourth in four games. Saints fall to 1 - 4 on the season.
Congrats to Lance Bisson on win #1 at Rivier! Nice upset last night of Anna Maria.
Emmanuel lost to Suffolk in a Saturday afternoon contest, 79 - 72. This game followed a familiar pattern, with the Saints falling behind early and trying to play catch up the rest of the game. This time the Saints were down 9 - 0 just three minutes into the game and never caught up. The Saints big man again dominated the paint scoring 12 field goals on just 16 shot attempts. Too bad the Emmanuel guards didn't recognize or weren't told how much the big man was dominating because they took it upon themselves to jack up 17 three point shots making just three for 17%. The real telling stat from this game was the Saints scoring 29 field goals but having only 6 assists. With an assist to field goal ratio that low the Saints again were not running any offense, just going one on one. One more game before semester break and the Saints sit at 1 - 5.
Emmanuel lost to MIT Tuesday night in a non league game 62 - 64. This game was uncharacteristically close for the Saints. For once they did not get blown out in the first ten minutes of the game, but stayed with in 10 points most of the game. Saints big man again had a big game, 19 / 12, but the guards were also up to old tricks shooting 4 - 20 from the 3 point arc. Why they are allowed to keep taking those shots is a mystery that will never get solved. At least they didn't give up 55 points in the second half.
Saints used their fifth different starting lineup in seven games so far this semester. If the players who started the season were not the five best players on the team why were they starting in the first place? If they were the five best players on the team why are they jerked out of the starting lineup so quickly after just seven games? No wonder the moral on this team is so low. Saints finish the first semester with a 1 - 6 record. This was suppose to be the year of the Saint, with a GNAC finish in the top 4 spots, because of the experienced players. Now it looks like the Saints will be lucky not to finish in the bottom 4 spots. Thank goodness for the semester break. Now is the time to keep an eye on the Saints roster to see who quits before the start of the second semester.
I love your posts Paul, they are great +K!
In regards to the starting lineup: Injuries/illness, players slumping/getting hot, suspensions, matchups are just one of the many reasons why a team could use it's 5th different starting lineup in 7 games. The 5 best players won't neccessarly start every game, but they should sure as hell be out there for the last 5 minutes of every game (unless they have already fouled out). So, the last 5:00 minutes or so should be what your are focusing on: I don't follow the team or the conference, so I don't know if the same guys are on the floor in that time frame in all 7 games, but if they are then those are probably the 5 "best" guys, if even those players are constantly changing then there's problems.
An example of this: The UMass-Boston women have the reining conference player of the year who started the majority of games in the second semester last year coming off the bench so far this year. Know I don't know why she's coming off the bench, there was a coaching change in the off season, so it's possible that's the reason, and I think she was hurt the first couple of games, so that could be it as well, but even though she's not starting, she's constantly ending the game on the court. The Western Connecticut team in 2012/13 (ADB....After Daquan Brooks) went through about 20 different starting lineups IIRC (mainly because they were constantly shuffling guys on and off the team, but for the most part of the season the 5 best players ended the game on the court most nights whether they started that particular game or night.
Trying to watch the Brooklyn - Albertus game - video not coming in. Sad.
Albertus finally loses at home to Fitchburg State but rebounds nicely with a big win over a ranked Brooklyn squad. This young team will definitely have it's ups and downs but it's scary to think Walters is a sophomore and Lovell is a freshman. If they remain on the team, yikes. Lovell is averaging 22 and 15! Haven't been able to follow much lately - I'm sure that will change closer to tournament time :P
HoopsFan......From what I heard they had some serious technical difficulties the other night that made it virtually impossible to get a good steady media stream. What I will say is that the new SID for Albertus seems to really be making some positive changes within the athletic department. They are updating a lot of equipment it seems and providing the fans with much more information on the athletics website. Obviously this doesn't show due to the difficulties the other night but good changes are happening!
LilDave, Shonteay Lovell is one of the most polished freshman I have ever seen at this level. He is an absolute beast on the boards. A rebounding machine who is also a tremendous finisher of everything around the rim. He has great footwork on the low post and is really good at positioning his body. Really nice kid too. I mean super nice, plays the game right and never complains. Believe it or not the Brooklyn team the other night were the ones talking some trash and all the Albertus players just blocked them out. This team is very young and they seem very enthusiastic and willing to learn. The guard play is very suspect right now but Ryan Pittman played his best game of the season the other night with the exception of a few really bad TO's at the end of the game. If he can just stay in control and manage the offense I feel like between Lovell, Walters and Dunbar on the outside this team may just be a little better than I expected. To be fair I don't think any of us new exactly how damn good this kid Lovell was going to be coming into the season! If he can continue to do what he is doing I have no doubt he will be a serious contender for the Northeast Rookie of they Year.
JQ Walters is an amazing talent. In my opinion he is one of the most athletic players that Oliver has ever had. You talk about a kid who is a legit 6'6 that can handle the ball like he can, rebound, score from a number of different angles and play as fearless as anyone. I worry about him disappearing some times (like the other night against Fram State) but when he is motivated he can take over a game. I would like his shooting to improve a bit and he isn't a great free throw shooter but he is a clutch free throw shooter so as of right now I can live with that. What he does so well, probablly better than anyone I have seen is get into the lane off the dribble, elevate and finish with a little tear drop or strong take. When he gets going to the basket he is very tough to stop because of his size and his ability to leap up and finish above the defender. His body control is outstanding as well. Him and Lovell do a great job of avoiding charges which helps them stay in the game.
One last note......Marc Wilson. Probably the most important player on this team. Walter and Lovell will get theirs, Dunbar will take his 3's but every team needs that 4th scorer who you can turn to if someone is having an off night and on this team it is Marc Wilson. He is a senior who has been an absolute trooper in his 4 years at Albertus. Oliver has rode this kid since the day he got on campus probablly about as hard as he has any player and I think its paying off. He still makes the occasional head scratching turnover or play and Oliver will let him know about it for sure but he is a great athlete who can really help this team going forward. If he can average 10 to 14 points a game I think we will be very tough to beat. He just has to focus and stay mentally tough during the games.
I am looking forward to the rest of the season and I really cant wait to get back and see if Oliver brings someone in for the second half who can really help impact us........I have been hearing rumblings! With Oliver in charge anything can happen!! This guy can recruit with the best of them!
agree with your comments about Lovell. I thought he was the reason for the second half explosion against Emmanuel. He combines a lot of athleticism with a soft touch. There are a lot of athletic D3 players who take offensive rebounds and then miss their put backs. Lovell finishes all his put backs. I was impressed with his hands and touch around the rim. He was also able to split the Saints zone and make a nice one dribble move from the foul line to the rim. He is putting up big numbers for a freshman in his first year of college ball. The physical nature of the college game does not appear to bother him at all.
different subject. watched the video stream of the Lasell OT win at RIC and was very impressed with the team chemistry of Lasell. They appear to have a good mix of inside and outside play. Marchant looks in good shape and able to play more minutes than last year, and was very effective against RIC. The Lasell guards move the ball and knock down open threes. After watching them play i may have under rated them in my preseason predictions.
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Oliver did it again!!!!! Waiting on details from a contact of mine close to the team. Rumor has it he landed a D1 combo guard. This will no doubt help this team as I really felt they needed to add another athlete and outside shooter who can also dribble penetrate and open the post up even more for both Lovell and Walters. This could be a season changing move for this team.
I will keep the board updated as I get more info. This guy doesn't give a ton of specifics. Just enough to keep me on the edge of my seat!!!
The Saints open the second semester by traveling to New York to play in the NYU tournament. Their first round game is a match up with the Becker College Hawks. The Saints and the Hawks have a combined total of 3 wins for the first semester. Easy to see why NYU invited these teams to their New Years tournament. Nothing too stressful after the holidays. This should be a fairly even game. The second round should be a nice holiday tune up for NYU before they move into their UAA schedule.
First round results from the Cupcake Invitational in New York show the 1 - 6 Emmanuel Saints lose a tight game to the 2 - 6 Becker Hawks, 73 - 68. The game was close throughout even though the Saints Sharpshooters went 3 -23 from behind the 3 point arc. With that kind of outside shooting one would have expected the Hawks to pull away, but no, the Hawks lack of offense kept the Saints in the game. Why the Saints guards were allowed to jack up 23 shots from behind the arc when they don't have any shooters on the court is a question that will remain a mystery for the rest of the season. Saints play the 12 th ranked NYU Violets on Sunday in the tournament conclusion. NYU has two quality big men and three quick, athletic guards, who can shoot and drive. Good Luck.
Final from the Cupcake Classic, NYU 79, Emmanuel 61. This game was over by halftime with the Violets holding a 37 - 21 advantage and both teams substituting freely throughout the second half. The NYU big man controlled the paint and finished with a 30 point game. The Saints took so many threes from behind the arc that the NYU announcers on live stream were actually laughing about it. The one comment that stood out was " the Saints appear to be running a non traditional transition offense by shooting a three off the first pass over half court. " I have been laughing at that for the past seven years. The Saints can't wait to get back to the friendly confines of the GNAC conference where they can beat up on some of the bottom dwelling GNAC opponents. Stepping outside the GNAC conference is always a bad idea for the Saints.
I was able to go to the Rivier vs. JWU game last night. 47-15 at the half (and it wasn't even that close). I was however unbelieveably impressed with JWU. They look like the favorite now to win the league especially with the Magnus loss last night. Garrick and Greenaway may be the best two players in the league right now. They are fun to watch because they play so hard and defend like crazy.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on December 31, 2015, 02:49:30 PM
Oliver did it again!!!!! Waiting on details from a contact of mine close to the team. Rumor has it he landed a D1 combo guard. This will no doubt help this team as I really felt they needed to add another athlete and outside shooter who can also dribble penetrate and open the post up even more for both Lovell and Walters. This could be a season changing move for this team.
I will keep the board updated as I get more info. This guy doesn't give a ton of specifics. Just enough to keep me on the edge of my seat!!!
So, did this not materialize?
The Amcats looked good defending their home court on Thursday night defeating the Saints 92 - 87. The Saints defense was nowhere to be found as the Amcats scored at will, with several different players being able to get to the rim any time they wanted. The Saints appeared content to just launch 3's and hope to outshoot their opponents. Not sure that is such a great strategy unless you have shooters on the floor. Third game in a row the Saints big man did not start but played a lot of minutes coming off the bench. Again, not such a great coaching strategy since the Saints big man was unstoppable the last time these two teams met in the conference playoffs. The Amcats had a lot of trouble covering the Saints big man last year so I am sure they were glad to see him coming off the bench this year. This was a very important game for the Saints so far in the conference standings and they came up short yet again.
So what happens when two of the GNAC " gimmies " play each other? You get a buzzer beater from two dribbles over half court. Mt Ida beat the Saints 73 - 71 this afternoon in a battle of second tier conference teams. Mt Ida actually had a 15 point lead late in this game, coughed up the lead into a one point deficit, and then won the game on a long heave as time expired. Only the finish was exciting in this game. The other 39:59 was a conglomeration of missed shots, turnovers, and fouls. What's going to happen when these teams actually play a good college basketball team?
Get out the brooms! Mt Ida completed a clean sweep of Emmanuel tonight with their second win over the Saints in the home / home back to back series. Tonight's score was Mt Ida - 79, Emmanuel 66. The Saints turned a 5 point halftime lead into a 13 point loss by giving up a 47 point second half to the visiting team. This is not the first time the Saints have given up a big second half point total to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Whatever gets said in the Saints locker room at half time has such a demoralizing effect on the team that they play the second half of the game in a daze and just watch the other team score basket after basket. Saints perimeter players jacked up 26 three point attempts again in this game making just 8. Still not sure why they are relying so much on the three point shot when they don't have any shooters on the court. That coaching philosophy has led the Saints to a 2 - 11 record so far this season.
Tonight's loss was another milestone for the Saints coach. This was loss number 120 since November of 2009. I wonder if the players gave the coach a signed ball with a big " 120 " printed on the side. Nah, probably not. The losses are piling up so fast they probably don't have time to keep track of them all.
Johnson & Wales is something scary...generally speaking lol. They'll have to win the GNAC I'd imagine (which they should) to get in but that was a dismantling last night. Shows you how much of a veteran squad JWU is and how young Albertus is as well.
That was as shocking a score as I have ever seen in D3. Is J & W that good?
WPI - They are absolutely that good......I feared this game would get out of hand and it surely did. To much experience on the JWU side of the ball and FAR FAR to much youth for Albertus. JWU shoots the ball extremely well. Offensively they are very balanced and have a number of players who can hurt you from the perimeter. Greenaway is an outstanding player but really there only slasher. They don't take the ball to the whole a lot but they are effective when they do. They are very similar to last years Albertus squad in terms of senior leadership who can go for the juggler and take you out of a game both physically and mentally in the 1st half.
The only thing that separates last years Albertus team to this years JWU team is an inside offensive scoring presence for JWU. They do not have a legitimate 5 who can get touches on the low post and help you stay in a game if your perimeter shots are not falling. They should run through the GNAC although I do believe Albertus will play them much tougher at home.
I didn't like are chances going into that game on the road but at the same time I didn't think we would get blown out as bad as we did. That is hands down the worst loss in terms of score in the Oliver era. Jamie Benton and JWU have played second fiddle to Albertus for the last 3 season and now that they have a formidable team, if they can remain focused.........they just might be able to pull off a few upsets if they are fortunate enough to make the big dance!
+1 D3HJ
Does Coach Oliver eventually settle down during a 50 point loss - or does he just get angrier and angrier? I love how animated he is, but I just can't wrap my head around him on the bench for this type of game!
Quote from: WPI89 on January 14, 2016, 10:33:20 AM
+1 D3HJ
Does Coach Oliver eventually settle down during a 50 point loss - or does he just get angrier and angrier? I love how animated he is, but I just can't wrap my head around him on the bench for this type of game!
I'd always think it's much easier to take the 60 point beating. Imagine if they were up the whole game and lost on a buzzer beater?? The HS team I assist with lost by 1 last night on a made field goal with like 5 seconds left....I would have rather lost by 50.
HAHAHAH.....WPI......He was just as animated as always! I have to give him credit though because all the way to the end of the game he coached them as if they were trailing by 2 with 3 seconds left! We as Albertus fans are not shocked by this however as Oliver will always push his guys to do better and compete to the very last play. I am so sick of people saying that he is just an amazing recruiter! That couldn't be more far off. He is an outstanding recruiter but he also knows more about the X's and O's then just about anyone and his teams run more sets and more plays than any team you will see in D3 basketball. Anyone who says other wise either doesn't know basketball or simply doesn't like Albertus and Oliver because of the way they play the game and how animated he is.
Coach Benton certainly extracted some revenge for himself in this game. He left his starters in WAYYYYYY longer than he should of. I do understand that as a competitor he wanted to bury Albertus last night and they certainly did but at the same time he really put some of his players at risk. These 2 teams HATE each other and Coach Oliver and Coach Benton certainly aren't getting together for lunch and talking hoops in the offseason LOL. But Albertus competed to the very end and there was an interesting sequence I saw with about 5 minutes to go, Tom Garrick for JWU who is arguable just as important to the team as Grennaway took a pretty good shot to the knee on a loose ball play which results in a couple players hitting the deck and banging into a few upright player, in this case Garrick. At that point I said to myself, this Coach is walking a thin line because with that lead there was simply no reason to have those kids in the game.
Oliver and Albertus have absolutely owned the GNAC for the last three season, in fact, JWU hasn't beaten Albertus since 2013! So again I think this was personal in a way for Benton and the Wildcats but at the same time, Coach Benton should really be thinking big picture
7Express.......Respectfully I have to disagree with you on that statement
In my opinion if your team is in engaged for 40 minutes, competing their rear ends off and losing on a buzzer beater, while that certainly sucks! The fact is you were in that game, you deserved to be on the court with whoever your opponent was that night and your players did everything they possibly could have done for 39 minutes and 59 seconds to be in position to get a victory
A 60 point loss on the other hand for me would be much harder to swallow as both a player and Coach. As a Coach I wouldn't be able to help but think OK I just didn't prepare my team enough to win this big game, we didn't put our players in the right position to make this competitive and that would drive me crazy. And of course as a player you cant help but to think how terrible you played individually and how ever worse it must have been as a total team effort.
Again respectfully I certainly understand your point as well, kind of wipe it clean from the memory and move onto the next one but me personally I think it would just eat at me way to much getting blown out!
Junkie,
you took the words right out of my mouth. Benton and JWU took this game personal. They have been second fiddle to Oliver and Albertus the last 5 or so years, minus the year they won the gnac (thanks to albertus suspending three starters for the year). So to me, this game was more to them then it was to us. And they took it to the young albertus team. Walters was completely taken out of the game which left only Lovell as an option. Albertus doesnt really have anything after that at this moment. But lets not forget how young this team is. a team littered with underclassmen. Our expectations are a little high bc of how spoiled Oliver has gotten us with his success. I will say this, the last time a team ran up the score on us, it was Emmanuel in olivers second year. They havent beaten us since. Jamie Benton and JWU want to make this personal by running it up, thats fine, but Oliver isnt going anywhere, and these Falcons are young. you better believe Oliver wont forget this loss.
Junkie what happened with the combo guard transfer?
Just my opinion Junkie and I like your opinion, but I just think, at least for me, losing by 55 is a lot easier to deal with and rebound from. We weren't ready to play, they are just better, we were worse then awful, blah blah blah, we can and will do better the next game. I've seen unbeaten teams lose on a buzzer beater the first conference game of the year on January 2, and those teams never recover. Of course, some of those teams weren't that good anyways and just beat up on tomato cans & cupcakes, but for some of them it really does take a toll losing like that. Case in point: look at Duke football. They lost that game to Miami on the 15 lateral play where the refs missed like 3 calls that would've ended the game, and they only won I think 1 or 2 more games the rest of the season, even though when it happened it was the first Saturday in November.
7exp - do you think any team that loses by 55 is capable of beating that time at another time during the same season? It would seem highly unlikely so I vote for the close game. JMHO
I doubt it, but you never know. Let me rephrase it differently: your down 20 at halftime, go down as much as 35 in the second half, but outscore them 25-7 the final 8 minutes and ONLY lose by 15 even though it was a blowout most of the game. Which one would you rather have?? Under that scenario, the team that lost could probably win the second game at home.
The one positive in losing at J&W... that post-game spread has got to be fantastic!
Funny Hoops. My nephew's buddy is a graduate and went back to Long Island and opened up an Italian Restaurant/pizza shop. Best Chicken Francese I have ever tasted!
It's not a joke. I remember going there to watch a volleyball match one time in college and their concession stand was like a five star restaurant. Amazing. Gotta be a fantastic perk of attendance.
Any one know what happened to Andre Ruff at Rivier? He was their leading scorer and rebounder, but is no longer on the roster.
J & W continues to just absolutely pound people! Winning by 40+ regularly!
I have to remember to watch them - do they have video of their home games?
I didn't even realize they were playing right now - I tried to watch video but it says they are "playing" tonight?
May not have learned much anyway as they are already up 33 at the half!
Saints get crushed by JWU 116 - 74. This game was over early with JWU scoring 56 points by halftime, and then another 60 points in the second half just for good measure. Obviously teams have scouting reports on their opponents, so I just don't understand why the Saints were trying to run with this team? You know how quick and athletic the JWU players are, and you also know the uptempo style they are going to try to play, so why not use some basic coaching tactics to try and slow them down. If you can slow down a running team, get the players frustrated that they are not going to get their point totals, it might be possible to goad them into taking bad shots. At least you are keeping your team in the game with a shot at a last second bomb to steal the win. I have never seen the Saints try anything close to this basic coaching strategy. With the Saints running and launching quick 3 's, this game just looked like a lopsided pick up game. It will take a very well coached, patient, hot shooting team to upset the Wildcats this year.
Ferraro, Hoops and anyone else who may have asked regarding the D1 transfer.......Unfortunately I think I may have been hornswoggled here as I have tried to get more info but have come up empty. I haven't seen anyone at the games either so I think this may have either been smoke and mirrors or something else may have happened that caused whoever it may have been to change his mind? Sorry for the misinformation.......I may just keep all info I hear to myself until I have concrete evidence from here on out LOL.
As for the last few games, the Falcons have rebounded nicely in my opinion since the blowout loss. But like most have noticed (Hoops, WPI)......JWU is simply destroying everyone right now. With that said I think this team being as young as they are have responded quite nicely. Ups and Downs....Sure. Will they struggle to play complete basketball from time to time......Absolutely but again the fact that this team comes out hungry and eager shows me a lot considering that they have 1 senior (Marc Wilson) on the entire roster who I would consider an actually game contributor.
I have to say this.....I love Ryan Pittman. True Freshman PG who is going to be a great player for Coach Oliver over the next 4 years. I haven't realized till recently what a nice shot he has from the outside. He needs to improve his strength an ability to finish strong in the open court and around contact but he is going to be special. He reminds me of Arshad Jackson when he first came to the program. As Arshad got older and a bit stronger he turned into a really nice player for Coach Oliver and I can see Pittman doing the same thing and maybe even being better by the time it is all said and done.
Chaunce Dunbar!!! He needs to step up and find his stroke from deep. He is struggling mightily right now and we need him to find it within himself to step up and bring back that sweet stroke we were all accustomed to seeing in the beginning of the season and last year as a freshman. If he can start hitting shots again that will help this team GREATLY going forward. I have a feeling if he doesnt find it he may begin to lose minutes to Dayron Caldwell who is shooting the ball extremly well. He is undersized and an absolute liability on defense but at this point if Chaunce cant find his range I have no doubt that Oliver will make the change and sacrifice defense for a little more offense.
JQ is a beast an clearly the leader and focal point of this offense. He just need to play smart and keep doing what he is doing.
Shonteay Lovell has slowed up a bit. I think this just may be a bit of freshman fatigue. He is still outstanding but he needs to keep his effort up as the season goes on. Pretty amazing.....if you look at his stats and say where Ray Askew or Darius Watson was there freshman years.....This kids are far superior. He has a chance be perhaps the best player ever in terms of scoring and rebounding that this school has ever had. Pretty outstanding stuff!
With ten games left in the season the Saints stand at 3 - 12. The only three wins coming against GNAC teams. Over the last several years the Saints have very few wins against non GNAC opponents. The Saints hopes for a top four finish are fading fast.
A quick check of the Saints roster shows only four players, two freshman and two upperclassmen, have left the team so far this year. That is a big improvement over past years when a lot more players have quit during the season. One interesting addition to the Saints roster is a player who was recruited four years ago, quit on this coach after his freshman year, took two and a half years off, and apparently returned to the team for the last ten games of his senior year. I guess the reward for quitting the team is a two and a half year vacation and an instant roster spot and a wonderful senior night. Not sure what kind of message that sends to the underclassmen who have been working hard since October. Interesting coaching philosophy. Can't wait to see how that plays out in the locker room.
No no Junkie, your info is as good as it gets. And guess what? Grant Ellis appears on the albertus roster today. A 6'5 guard/forward, transferring in from Iona. Don't know much else, but I'm hoping that maybe we may have a different game next time we face JWU!
Unbeliavable! It appears my info and source was right! Outstanding to have a player with his experience on a squad who is overall inexperienced. I did some digging and it looks like he started at Iona and was then a member at Southern University. Both obviously D1 programs. Hey it never hurts to add depth with a talent like this. Only helps!!
Quote from: 7express on January 14, 2016, 12:09:11 PM
Quote from: WPI89 on January 14, 2016, 10:33:20 AM
+1 D3HJ
Does Coach Oliver eventually settle down during a 50 point loss - or does he just get angrier and angrier? I love how animated he is, but I just can't wrap my head around him on the bench for this type of game!
I'd always think it's much easier to take the 60 point beating. Imagine if they were up the whole game and lost on a buzzer beater?? The HS team I assist with lost by 1 last night on a made field goal with like 5 seconds left....I would have rather lost by 50.
So since I've posted this: the HS team I coach lead by 3 in the final 60 seconds and lost by 1, and in the 2 preceding games beat the reining conference champions, and a team that lost by 1 in state final last year by 13 (after trailing at halftime) and then beat a team that was unbeaten in conference coming in, and receiving votes in the state poll.
So, can you guys give me Tabasco/Sriracha sauce or at the minimum barbecue sauce to make the crow taste better ;D
I'd imagine anyone who was playing D1 would make an immediate impact in the GNAC, but he did only play 1 game for Southern it appears. Played 7 minutes and scored 5 points. Think Mr. Sledge had any influence on this haha?
http://hoopgroup.com/elite-blog/elite-camp-updates/grant-ellis-leads-the-pack-at-hoop-group-elite-basketball-camp/
he should make an immediate impact if hes in game shape
Just noticed he went to the same high school as Marc Wilson as well
LilDave,
Just saw he attended high school with Marc Wilson and Med Fofana and I am certain he knows some of the other players as well. He should make an immediate impact. He was recruited by a number of D1 schools. Coach Oliver has strong ties with the Iona program and as we have seen over the last few season he has been able to establish good relations with players who are looking to finish there careers on a high note with playing time in a high octane, fast paced offense.
I love Chaunce Dunbar but I can certainly see him losing minutes now that this kid is here. Unfortunately you cant blame Coach Oliver because Chaunce just hasn't been able to find his range as of late. With this kids ability to get to the hoop and score I can really see the lane opening up for Lovell and JQ. His ability to get to the hoop should open up for more offensive rebounds and second chance points. The GNAC isn't the most disciplined of conference so he will be able to draw defenders away when his shot goes up leading to more and more put backs.
Very quietly Lasell is putting together a very nice season at 12 - 4. Non conference wins over Brandies and RIC, along with GNAC wins over Anna Marie ( twice ), St Joe, Albertus, and Mt Ida. They have good scoring balance with 5 or 6 players getting close to double figures every night and a nice mixture of inside outside production. That is what I was hoping to see out of the Saints this year but it appears Lasell is just a better run program. Lasell still has to play Emmanuel twice and JWU twice, which will say a lot about their playoff status.
Lasell scored an easy 96 points rolling to a never in doubt 96 - 85 victory of the Emmanuel Saints this afternoon. Lasell is not an exceptionally big or athletic team. The have one decent big man with a nice touch touch around the basket but the rest of the team is just average size players who move the ball well, make open shots, and defend the basket very well. They have good team chemistry and play a very smart half court game. The Saints on the other hand, used their trademark full court press to hand easy baskets, wide open jump shots, and many free throws to Lasell. Again the Saints came out of the halftime locker room and gave up another 50 point second half. That is the fourth or fifth time that has happened this year. Don't understand why teaching defense is so hard at the college level. Lasell hands the Saints their 13 th loss of the season.
The Saints new addition to the roster is now in the starting lineup. That didn't take long. If he was that good four years ago why did he quit the team and take a two and a half year vacation?
Lasell is now 10 - 0 in the GNAC conference and doesn't play JWU until Feb 3. By that time they will most likely be 12 - 0. That is be a very telling week since Lasell must play JWU, Albertus, and JWU again all in a six day time frame. Getting up for one big game is difficult enough but 3 big games in one week will really tell what Lasell is made of. May skip the Saints games that week and tune in to the Lasell games to see some great D3 basketball.
It has been a long layoff for the Falcons as they enter tonight's GNAC contest with Suffolk. With the cancelations of last Saturdays game the Falcons haven't taken the court for game action since Martin Luther King Day and I for one think this "break" came at the perfect time.
Albertus played a brutal stretch of games including the blowout on the road at JWU and I just feel the rest was much needed for this young, inexperienced squad. I also think the extra time will allow our new D1 transfer Grant Ellis ample time to get acclimated to the offense and bond with the teammates he will be sharing the floor with. I have no doubt Oliver worked this team hard in practices with all the time off and I think it may pay dividends going forward the remainder of the season.
Sometimes a young squad just needs to step back, relax and get a good run of practices in to help them understand all aspects of what they should be doing on the court together as a collective unit
Can't wait to see this kid play tonight! He hasn't had a lot of opportunities at both Iona and Southern but regardless of that he was recruited for a reason to these D1 programs so now that he has a chance to be a full time participant we could see something special tonight!
http://sportzedge.com/2016/01/26/despite-entirely-new-starting-five-albertus-magnus-basketball-keeps-on-winning/ (http://sportzedge.com/2016/01/26/despite-entirely-new-starting-five-albertus-magnus-basketball-keeps-on-winning/)
Good to see us still getting notice from WTNH. With the way it's presented you'd never know JWU kicked us in the teeth but it does point out how young we are. I also like how in a "down" year the highlight reel items of practice are what was shown. That will get a kids attention even if we don't make it back to the NCAAs this year.
LilDave
Thanks for sharing that with us all.......I didnt catch that story on the news last night so I am glad you posted it.
Always nice to get some news coverage!
Found a great video on YouTube of highlights from Big Vic's first season in the Ukrainian Super League.......It appears Vic is playing extremely well.....This really is great to see. Vic was an outstanding player for Albertus and one of the more polished "Bigs" you see at the D3 Level who could do a little bit of everything!
Hats off to him......He is a great kid as well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JafFYhGAEQ
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 27, 2016, 01:00:08 PM
Found a great video on YouTube of highlights from Big Vic's first season in the Ukrainian Super League.......It appears Vic is playing extremely well.....This really is great to see. Vic was an outstanding player for Albertus and one of the more polished "Bigs" you see at the D3 Level who could do a little bit of everything!
Hats off to him......He is a great kid as well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JafFYhGAEQ
Leading the league in rebounds and blocks.
Well Albertus Fans.......Its safe to say Coach Oliver got a stud here for the second half and all of next year.
Grant Ellis was about as good as you can be in your first career game coming off the bench in a new school and new offense. His range is limitless and while he didn't have a ton of opportunities to get to the rim, you can just tell that he can really put the ball on the floor and get to the rim with ease if need be.
This is a VERY VERY good player who will only help this team going forward with his experience and ability to shoot the ball. He can really shoot the ball and has a very quick release
I was a little concerned about his defense because he looked disinterested at times on that side of the floor but I think this will only get better as he gets more acclimated with the team. He picked up 4 fouls as well and I have to say 2 of them probably would have been no calls at the D1 level so this is something else that he must adjust to going forward.
yeah I peaked in for a minute, and he can knock em down. I'll agree with what you saw on the defensive end, especially when they pressed. It's a shame because he's so long. Hopefully he gets into it as the games mean more down the stretch.
Can't complain with 14 points, 5 boards, 2 assists, and 2 steals off the bench in your first game though!
caught glimpses of the game, one being an Ellis three pointer with a hand in his face. Nice pick up by Oliver for sure. Any word on Pitman? Saw he only played a few minutes........Was told that Lovell was suppose to be a Falcon last year, but it didnt happen of course. Imagine if him and Ellis were on that team last year? Only reason I say that is bc they are Iona guys and Sledge was an Iona guy, so it was certainly possible.
Also, the Big Vic highlights are incredible...makes me wish Tavon didn't block that kids shot (thus the ball falling right to the guy who hit the GW) and he just missed and it went to overtime haha
Yes I actually heard that about Lovell last night. He was committed to Iona but something happened with him there and then he took a year off last year completely. It certainly would have been incredible with Ellis and Lovell on last years squad but we cant dwell on the past I suppose!
As for Pittman, I think he may have said something to Coach Oliver on the bench when he was pulled. Oliver called a quick timeout and was furious with someone and it looked like it may have been Pittman. Needless to say he didnt play for the remainder of the game. I for one really hope Pittman sticks with it here and listens to Oliver because I really like what I see from him as a true freshman. I think he can really be a sensational player if he gets his head right. This is the college level now and I think some freshman may not be used to hearing things they dont necessarily want to hear or aren't accustomed to hearing from their Coach but Coach Oliver will not let things like that slide and he has never played favorites in my opinion. Next guy up mentality if you break the rules. But again I just hope he learned his lesson after last night because I really believe Oliver can turn this kid into a star.
JWU rolls to an easy 82 -54 win over the Saints tonight. I did not expect the Saints to win this game but since they just lost to JWU by over 40 points last week I expected the defensive effort to be intense. It wasn't. They didn't make JWU work for anything. The Saints players just stood around watching the Wildcats play. JWU had 19 offensive rebounds, often right in front of of stationary Saints players. The Saints players did not accept the challenge of playing a nationally ranked team tonight. Greenaway and Garrick again led the way for JWU with stellar games. Greenaway looks and plays like the GNAC player of the year. Last week the JWU announcers were laughing out loud at all the quick threes the Saints were launching instead of running an offense. Tonight it was the Saints announcers turn to comment. They were being more politically correct and after a quick three ball they would only remark " maybe that shot five seconds into the possession was not the best decision at this point of the game. " No kidding !
A quick check of the Saints roster shows one more player has left the team. That makes 5 so far this season, one short of their yearly average. Then again, the season is not over yet so they may hit their quota after all.
Watching the Emmanuel - Suffolk game today was like looking in the mirror. Both teams play that wild, up and down the court style of play, shooting as soon as they get possession of the ball. They think nothing of launching 3's after one pass in the front court. Both teams combined to take 47 three point shots. It is only a 40 minute game. Saints hold on for a ten point win over a terrible Suffolk team, 68 - 58. Both teams finish the day with identical records 4 - 14. Good thing the teams at the bottom of the GNAC conference get to play each other twice or else they might not get any wins at all.
Saints pick up their 15 th loss of the season tonight in a non conference tilt with the Wesleyan Cardinals 78 - 60. Tilt is certainly the correct reference since this game was very much one sided in favor of the Cardinals. Whenever the Saints step out of conference and play some one other than a bottom dwelling GNAC team their defensive weakness really gets exposed. The Saints match up zone looked like Swiss cheese, giving up one open jump shot after another. The Cardinals scored 39 points from behind the 3 point arc with no defender anywhere in sight. At the other end of the court the Saints were blistering the nets with a 7 for 28 performance from the three point line. This team has no business launching 28 three point shots when they have no shooters on the court. That game plan all comes down to coaching, or lack of. The Saints starting line up combined for 28 total points in this game. If these guys can't score and can't defend, what are they doing in the starting line up? Coaching?
Big game tomorrow with JWU travelling to Lasell. Let's see if Lasell can hang at home.
Yes, the live stream video of the JWU - Lasell games starts at 7:00 pm. Certainly worth watching.
For the third consecutive year, Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) will air for 12 hours as the regular season enters the final four weeks. Dave McHugh will chat with coaches, administrators, student-athletes, and others involved in Division III basketball from around the country. Other guests will include those who have Division III roots or appreciate the division and the game along with the student-athletes who play the sport.
Hoopsville will air from 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. (and maybe later) on Thursday, February 4 live from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can see what guests are scheduled, get more information, and watch the show here: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb4
You can also read the press release about the show: http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/hoopsville-marathon-2016
Here is the guest list as we speak. All times are Eastern and subject to change. Additional guests to be added if and when necessary:
Time | Guest | School |
10:15am | Connie Tilley | St. Norbert (WBB) - WBCA Center Court |
10:40am | Jamie Purdy | Peidmont (WBB) |
11:00am | Keri Carollo | UW-Whitewater (WBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair |
11:20am | Brent Pollari | Saint Mary's (Minn.) (WBB) |
11:40am | Kent Madsen | No. 21 Wheaton (Ill.) (WBB) |
12:00pm | Russell Loyd | Rose-Hulman (MBB) |
12:20pm | Kevin Broderick | Nazareth (MBB) |
12:40pm | Justin Scott | Arcadia (MBB) |
1:00pm | Sam Hargraves | No. 12 Alma (MBB) |
1:20pm | Lenny Reich | Mount Union (SID) |
1:40pm | Maureen Webster | Clarkson (WBB) |
2:00pm | Betsy Witman | York (Pa.) (WBB) |
2:20pm | Sara Lee | Denison (WBB) |
2:40pm | Klay Kneuppel | Wisconsin Lutheran (MBB) |
3:00pm | Brian Van Haaften | Buena Vista (MBB) - Nat'l Committee Chair |
3:30pm | Sydney Moss | No. 1 Thomas More (WBB) |
3:45pm | Aaron Rousell | Bucknell (WBB) - former Chicago coach |
4:00pm | Tim Shanahan | Staten Island (WBB) |
4:20 | Pat Cunningham | Trinity (Texas) (MBB) - NABC Coach's Corner |
4:50pm | Bubba Smith | Sewanee (MBB) |
5:15pm | Ben Strong | Former Guilford All-American |
5:30pm | Kevin Connors | ESPN SportsCenter Anchor - Ithaca alumnus |
6:00pm | Kristen Dowling | Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (WBB) |
6:20pm | Allison Coleman | Sage (WBB) |
6:40pm | Landry Kosmalski | Swarthmore (MBB) |
7:00pm | Dave Niland | No. 23 Penn State-Behrend (MBB) |
7:20pm | Aaron Galletta | Lasell (MBB) |
7:40pm | John Baron | Gwynedd-Mercy (MBB) |
8:00pm | | |
8:20pm | | |
8:40pm | Melissa Hodgdon | Wheaton (Mass.) (WBB) |
9:00pm | G.P. Gromacki | No. 2 Amherst (WBB) |
9:20pm | James Wagner | |
9:40pm | HAPPY HOUR | Free-for-all of calls, tweets, and fun! |
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JWU have looked amazing... They are consistently beating teams by 25-30 points. They are on a mission; I wonder if they watch last year GNAC finals game everyday. They are playing hungry, together, with a laser focus toward winning the GNAC. I don't see a team beating them. They have a great coach; best player, and play wonderful team defense.
I watched about 15 minutes of the first half of the JWU / Lasell game. The footspeed and athleticism of JWU was just too much for Lasell to handle. The JWU quick hands and long arms made Lasell rush many shots that they would ordinarily make. I am afraid it is a one horse race this year in the GNAC.
It's certainly looking like that Saint and Falcons. I don't think AMC (or Lasell) will just lay down but the Falcons are just too young this year. I will say that we are better built for the upcoming years assuming what's here is here to stay.
JWU is as good of a team as there is in the Northeast this season. Say what you want about some of the NESCAC schools NEWMAC and so on......There aren't too many programs that have 2 legitimate players who can drop 30 on you on any given night. Most programs have that one superstar who can carry a team but not 2. Greenaway and Garrick are as good as you can get and this JWU team is about as good as I have seen this season. They do have flaws; make no mistake about it.....As I have mentioned in my one of my previous posts the lack of an interior scoring presence will hurt this team if they are fortunate enough to make the Big Dance.
What does separate this team vs a lot of teams that play there style of up and down, run and gun offense with speed and great shooting is there defense. A lot of times you see teams who have this incredible ability to score but they lack good team defense. I will be the first one to admit that even though I am an Albertus fan, specifically with last year's team and even 2 seasons ago the overall team defense was subpar. Sure Big Vic held down the lane and guys like Eian Davis, Tavon Sledge and Darius Watson got the occasional steal but the team defense as a whole left a lot of open perimeter shots that good teams will knock down time after time.
Not this JWU team however, they are tenacious and as Saint mentioned have outstanding foot speed. They play tight defense, switch on high balls screens and most of their players because of their experience are smart enough to know when to hedge over the top of screens or go underneath. They are very good at closing in on shooters as well (again with foot speed)
While they are the hands down clear cut favorite to take the GNAC title we all have to remember that with this beautiful game we all love ANYTHING can happen. I like Lasells team this year; they beat my Falcons at home straight up but I just don't think they can pull off the upset over JWU in the GNAC tourney. I am not just saying this because I am an Albertus fan but I really think we are the only team capable of shocking the Wildcats because of our athleticism. I still believe it will be the matchup I know everyone is hoping for......JWU Wildcats vs Albertus Falcons for the GNAC Title in Providence
The 5 - 15 Saints struggled to hold onto a win over the scrappy 3 - 17 Rivier Raiders by a score of 76 - 69 this afternoon. Defense not a top priority this afternoon as both teams had open looks from the perimeter and also in the paint. A few free throws at the end of the game decided this contest. If it were not for playing the bottom teams of the GNAC I don't think the Saints would have any wins at all. I cannot remember the last time the Saints beat an above 0.500 team. Good thing they play the Norwich Cadets next week.
Is it too early to start talking all conference? I have put together a list of the best GNAC players I have seen this year. However, most of those games were against the Saints so not sure how these guys have done against the rest of the league.
First Team : Greenaway - JWU, Garrick - JWU, Lovell - AMC, Omanovic - LAS, Bradanese - AM
Second Team : Jerrnigan - JWU, Walters - AMC, Marchand - LAS, Davis - EMM, Arsenault - LAS
Third Team : Delorey - AM, DeFillippi - IDA, Hogervorst - NOR, Wilson - AMC, Lewis - JWU
I'd put Walters on over Lovell for AMC - Lovell has really tailed off the last week or tow - it may be a typical freshman getting tired towards the end of the year. While Walters seems to be coming on stronger as the season goes along. I'm not watching every game like you guys, but from what I see, Walters seems to be far more important to the team winning late.
Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/10/first-2016-regional-rankings-released-today/
JWU right about where AMC has been the last couple of years. On the fringe with no real chances to move up unless there's a big move when the vRRO comes into play. JWU beat eastern but did they play anyone else RR?
Albertus losing to Anna Maria made me sad as well haha
Quote from: lildave678 on February 10, 2016, 02:12:23 PM
JWU right about where AMC has been the last couple of years. On the fringe with no real chances to move up unless there's a big move when the vRRO comes into play. JWU beat eastern but did they play anyone else RR?
Albertus losing to Anna Maria made me sad as well haha
Which Eastern?? I don't remember the guys playing each other, but I'm pretty sure the girls played this year. Could you have gotten them confused Dave??
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Quote from: lildave678 on February 10, 2016, 02:12:23 PM
JWU right about where AMC has been the last couple of years. On the fringe with no real chances to move up unless there's a big move when the vRRO comes into play. JWU beat eastern but did they play anyone else RR?
Albertus losing to Anna Maria made me sad as well haha
Which Eastern?? I don't remember the guys playing each other, but I'm pretty sure the girls played this year. Could you have gotten them confused Dave??
J&W beat Eastern 72-59 in Mahwah, NJ at a Ramapo Tournament.
is the box score correct? Albertus scored over 100 points and upset JWU? The freshman knocked down 34 against probably the best defensive team in the GNAC? Wow. that is why they play the games.
It might be a holiday for those romantically inclined, but it is also getting down to the end of the Division III basketball season. Just two weeks remain between now and the end of the regular season and nothing has been determined.
On Sunday night's Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave McHugh will talk to some teams who have emerged from no where to be in a position to surprise when their conference tournaments begin. McHugh also talks to a few teams who can't seem to be knocked off their conference pedestal, but still feel they have something to prove. And the hectic schedule of conference travel can take it's toll.
Sunday's show start at 7:00 pm ET and promises to go well into overtime. You can watch the show here: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2015-16/feb14
Guests included (in order of appearance):
- Tara Macciocco, Marywood women's coach
- Dr. George Barber, Greenville men's coach
- Ruth Sinn, No. 8 St. Thomas women's coach (WBCA Center Court)
- Rusty Eggen, Northeast Region Report, WPI Sports Information Director
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Lose to Anna Maria, beat JWU, go figure!
Unfortunately for JWU this is a "bad" loss in terms of the regional rankings and pool C. While they may have had to win the GNAC to get in anywho, any conference loss has proved to be too much to overcome for the at-large.
It would be awesome to part 3 of this series in the finals. Unfortunately, Albertus might have to go on the road to Lasell who they've lost to twice this year.
Quote from: lildave678 on February 15, 2016, 08:43:49 AM
Lose to Anna Maria, beat JWU, go figure!
Unfortunately for JWU this is a "bad" loss in terms of the regional rankings and pool C. While they may have had to win the GNAC to get in anywho, any conference loss has proved to be too much to overcome for the at-large.
It would be awesome to part 3 of this series in the finals. Unfortunately, Albertus might have to go on the road to Lasell who they've lost to twice this year.
They never had a real shot at Pool C - it's win or go home for them.
The GNAC is a one team bid league... I like this jwu team; they have two scoring options, great team defense, a very cool calm coach. They could win a game or two in the tournament if they have the right match-ups. I think the coast to the finals.. Lasell vs Albertus will be interesting; but Albertus is young and could play sloppy; something Lasell will take advantage of.
I know coach Oliver reloaded with a great addition mid year - but how do you guys explain the over 60 point difference in the outcome of game 1 vs. game 2 (JWU vs. Magnus)?
Quote from: WPI89 on February 16, 2016, 09:16:45 AM
I know coach Oliver reloaded with a great addition mid year - but how do you guys explain the over 60 point difference in the outcome of game 1 vs. game 2 (JWU vs. Magnus)?
It was a totally different game. Oliver brought a whole different approach to it. Plus J&W didn't have as good a game - Greenway only came on late and it wasn't enough on his own. To me, this screams game plan, plus the AMC bench stepping up.
This was all game plan... Albertus ran their offense very well; spread the ball around and limited JWU to one shot possesions; this allowed Albertus to run and get uncontested looks at the basket. Not sure Albertus can do that again; especially on the road.
AMC Squeaks by Mount Ida, JWU gets back on track against Norwich...and Emmanuel beat Lasell! Hope Saint has some insight on that game. I'd imagine a lot of it stems from the 23-8 turnover difference.
I agree with all statements made regarding the outcome of the Albertus JWU game the other day. It was without question better game planning by Oliver and I think also a little bit of overconfidence by JWU. I think JWU definitely took this young Albertus team for granted and it came back and bit them in this game. How this happens I have no idea other than coaching because I regard Coach Benton from JWU as a very solid coach and in my opinion he should have had his team a bit more prepared mentally considering the fact that Albertus has owned them and the GNAC over the past few seasons. Regardless of how good your team is New Haven is still the toughest place to play in the GNAC and Coach Oliver and company will never roll over against any opponent.
Back to this JWU team and the game. I think Albertus did a tremendous job in making only 1 of the 2 stars beat them. Greenaway without question is GNAC player of the year and his running mate Tom Garrick is a 1st teamer. They both average over 20 PPG and Albertus did a great hob in neutralizing Garrick. No doubt Greenaway is tougher to stop because of his ability to drive the basketball and finish at the rim or pull up and knock down a jumper but with Garrick he is more of a perimeter shooter who gets most of his baskets on open shots and a few breakaways on fast breaks during games. Albertus took Garrick right out the game because they did an excellent job at contesting his shots and making it difficult for him to have open looks. That to me was the key to the game and of course the stellar play of Ryan Pittman and the teams overall foul shooting helped as well!!
I really think it will be JWU vs Albertus at JWU for the GNAC Tourney crown. I respect Lasell and the year they had but I just dont see Oliver and this Falcons team losing to them 3 times on the year. That is hard enough to do against any team let alone Albertus
Saint, I've never spoke with you on this site, but I always laugh at your breakdowns of EC games. Couldn't help but think of your thoughts after last night's win.
How 'bout those Saints!!
Well, I would really like to report that the Saints came up with some new and creative game plan like a box and one on Omanovic or a double team every time Marchand touch the ball, or even a slow down game with five passes in the front court, but i cant because nothing like that happened. It was the same old game plan for the Saints, rush the ball up the court and take the first available shot. The Saints were not on fire, barely reaching the 40% mark, 27 - 67, in field goals and under 65% from the free throw line, but Lasell just didn't play their usual game. Omanovic only made one 3 point shot and the whole Lasell team was 4 - 20 from behind the arc. Most of the Lasell turnovers were unforced. Not sure if Lasell was taking the Saints lightly but it certainly looked that way, especially on the defensive end of the court. Lasell was getting beat to loose balls and loose rebounds. Lasell usually does that to other teams this year in the games that I watched . If showing up and " wishing " that your opponents would miss shots and throw the ball away counts as a game plan then i guess the rest of the GNAC is in trouble.
Saints did this same thing last year also. Once their record was poor enough to assure a losing season they started to play loose and easy without any pressure . Making shots and beating a few teams that already had playoff spots sealed. Last year in the final game of the season the Saints were leading Albertus by three points with 6 seconds to play because Albertus already had the number one seed. Once that game went into overtime the pressure was back on and the Saints crumbled like a cookie left too long in the oven.
Had to give you the +K on that one Saint.....That last line was just too funny!!
I absolutely love Saint Paul's posts, they are the greatest!
When Emmanuel played Albertus back in December the Saints took a 5 point lead into half time and promptly gave up 55 points in the second half. That was something i had never seen before, 55 points in the second half. Even when the Saints lost to JWU by 60 points they didn't give up that many points in one half. I wonder if the Saints coach knows that there are only 20 minutes in a half of basketball? To allow your opponent enough possessions to score 55 points your team must be launching shots every 7 or 8 seconds. To sit there and watch that happen without saying anything is a coaching strategy I just don't understand. I guess controlling game tempo and shot selection are considered old school and not of any value. Well, losing 17 or 18 games every year is not of much value either. Will enjoy watching the game on Saturday anyway.
Saint is always on it!! Enjoy the final games of the regular season. Senior Day boys!!!
Quote from: falcons2010 on February 20, 2016, 12:07:45 PM
Saint is always on it!! Enjoy the final games of the regular season. Senior Day boys!!!
And conference tournaments/state tournaments starting in high school. Fun time of year!
The video live stream was unwatchable today so the only way to follow today's game was by box score. I guess scoring over 50 points in a half is going to become fashionable nowadays but I still don't feel that is the right way to play the game. I little defense never hurts. Saints big man had a decent game but he only played 24 minutes and was not in foul trouble. Why so much time on the bench? Missing 15 free throws in a three point game, certainly no killer instinct there. There is no defender at the free throw line. That is why it is called a " free " throw.
Saints finish the season 9 - 16, exactly the same as last year. With five returning starters and a veteran line up i would have expected at least one more win than last year. Look at what Lasell was able to do with returning, experienced players. Since the GNAC offers a minimum of 10 gimmies a year, 9 wins is not exactly setting the conference on fire.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on February 20, 2016, 05:34:50 PM
The video live stream was unwatchable today so the only way to follow today's game was by box score. I guess scoring over 50 points in a half is going to become fashionable nowadays but I still don't feel that is the right way to play the game. I little defense never hurts. Saints big man had a decent game but he only played 24 minutes and was not in foul trouble. Why so much time on the bench? Missing 15 free throws in a three point game, certainly no killer instinct there. There is no defender at the free throw line. That is why it is called a " free " throw.
Saints finish the season 9 - 15, exactly the same as last year. With five returning starters and a veteran line up i would have expected at least one more win than last year. Look at what Lasell was able to do with returning, experienced players. Since the GNAC offers a minimum of 10 gimmies a year, 9 wins is not exactly setting the conference on fire.
We were all pulling for you.
The GNAC play offs should be interesting. The only sure thing in the first round is the JWU / St Joe game. JWU should be favored by about 40 points. The other three games are not that clear cut. Lasell did not finish the season strong, losing 3 of their last 4 games. Suffolk just beat them last week. Anna Marie has more wins, but does not match up well with Emmanuel. The Amcats can out play the Saints at four of the five positions but cannot match up at the 5 spot. The Saints upset them last year in the first round and I could easily see that happening again this year. Albertus should be favored against Mt Ida, but the Mustangs have some athletic players and could make a play off game interesting. I think the second and third rounds will be just as interesting this year and worth watching. Good luck to all the players and fans.
Very much looking forward to the start of the GNAC tourney tonight!! There are definitely some interesting matchups. Here my breakdown of how I believe the quarterfinals will turn out.
JWU vs St Joes Maine – I don't see much competition here obviously and if you look at the regular season matchups between these two teams clearly a blowout should be expected. I think St. Joes will put out a superior effort because of their coach and program pedigree but JWU is far superior to them at every position and skillset on the court. I'll take the Wildcats JWU 97 – St Joes 68
Emmanuel vs Anna Maria – This is a very intriguing matchup for both squads. Pretty evenly matched in my opinion although I agree with Saint-Paul that the Saints hold an advantage in the low post. However, (and I think Saint will agree with me on this) a lot of these games come down to coaching between evenly matched teams in a tournament format and Coach Jackson from Emmanuel just doesn't have it. Conrad at Anna Maria is a decent coach and I look at him as a very solid motivator when I watch him coach his team. Give me the AMCATS in this one for that reason. Anna Maria 81 – Emmanuel 75
Mount Ida vs Albertus – At a glance I believe Mount Ida is the 3rd most athletic team in this conference behind only JWU and Albertus. So in my opinion Albertus holds the edge in terms of athleticism. Mount Ida can certainly challenge the Falcons early in this game but being at home I think the young Falcons squad puts it all together and goes on a run in the second half to seal the victory. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Coach Davis and what he has done at Mount Ida in a very short amount of time....it seems like they are heading in the right direction. But his team (also young) is not quite ready to make the step and knock of Coach Oliver and the Falcons. Albertus 94 – Mount Ida 78
Suffolk vs Lasell – Very very intriguing matchup.....In my opinion probably the most intriguing of the 1st round. Suffolk just handed Lasell a loss in the season finale and while Lasell has played poorly of late I think they put things together and get back on track for the GNAC tourney. They have good experience and a great head coach. That being said I could see Suffolk pulling off and upset here but I just think the Lasers have had to strong of a season to let this 1st round game slip through their fingertips. I also think that a lot of times throughout this season when I watched Suffolk they had a tendency to beat themselves a bit. Lasell 84 – Suffolk 73
Good luck to all teams tonight and as always.......GO FALCONS!!!
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Anna Maria loses a home play off game to the Saints for the second year in a row. Again, the Saints big man was the difference in this game, just like last year. The game was fairly even throughout with both teams making small runs but neither team able to take control. With the score tied at 89 and 9 seconds left to play the Amcats committed a costly turnover. The Saints tried to return the favor by taking a wild, off balance shot, on a drive down the lane by one of the guards. The shot was so bad that it actually hit one of the Amcat defenders and rolled out of bounds. No, I am not making this up, that really happened. With 1.3 seconds left the Saints lobbed the ball in bounds to the Saints big man who caught it and laid it in the basket. There was nothing the Amcat defenders could do. I will bet that the Anna Maria coach is glad that I don't write posts for the Amcats. Losing home play off games two years in a row to a team with only 9 wins is not a great resume builder.
Saints face the JWU buzz saw next round. Last year I remember the JWU announcers laughing during the broadcast at the Saints defense, at the Saints shot selection, at the Saints player rotation, at the Saints wild transition game. It is OK for me to laugh at those things, the Saints are my team and I support them anyway, but I think it is very unclassy for the home team announcers to do that on the air during the game. Hopefully they will act in a more professional manner during this years game. Regardless, it won't change the outcome of the game. JWU should win this one by 30.
Final public regional rankings are out: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/24/third-ncaa-regional-ranking/
JWU at number 6 in region... Awesome!! When is the last time a GNAC team was ranked that high in regional rankings?
Also; Junkie almost dead on with Albertus and Lasell scores.
I thought Albertus Magnus climbed as high as 6 in the past... but I can't remember off the top of my head.
Falcons2010......What can I say, When your good your good LOL
Dave, I believe you are correct. Last year's Falcons squad peaked at 6 in the last public Regional Rankings just like JWU this year
Tonight is the night! 1 very BIG game and 1 NOT so big game.
I will start with the NOT so big game.....Nice win by Emmanuel the other night to take out the higher seeded AMCATS on their home court. However the run ends tonight. JWU is simply too good and too athletic. If the regular season is any indication of how tonight's game goes this one could be over quickly. Coaching, Athleticism, System and Experience are all things you look for in the playoffs and you can check all those boxes off for JWU in a contest with the Saints. JWU 96 Saints 65
Now for the BIG game and what clearly is the game of the night......Lasell and Albertus Magnus. These two teams battled it out in the regular season and much I think to everyone's surprise the Lasers swept the Falcons taking both games. This is going to be an absolute battle. You have an experienced Lasell team who has fought all year and proved they can beat Albertus. Then you look at the Falcons, a young athletic team who plays an up tempo fast paced style that has beat 2 top 25 teams this season and then turn right around and put up some very mediocre performances as well. Very typical when you look at the youth and talent level of Albertus Magnus. Can they beat anyone? I think the answer is clearly yes but will they be able to avoid the freshman/sophomore mistakes that have plagued them in a few close games this season, specifically both games against Lasell? I know I am a Falcons fan but I really like Albertus in this game.....as unbiased as I can be I just think Albertus is on a mission to prove that they can remain top dogs in the GNAC even without the typical experience and stars that we have seen in the past few seasons. I also just can't see Oliver being beat 3 times in one season by the same team. This game will be a tough one as well for my Falcons because they are on the road and I really think the gym (which is very small) is going to be absolutely packed and rocking. They will have to weather the storm of runs and crowd noise that the fans and team will no doubt put on. Albertus has to play great perimeter defense to win this game. Marchand and Liberty are good players but Albertus lost both of these games this season because they gave up to many wide open 3's at inopportune times. I am going to take my Falcons in a close one here on the road. AMC 88 – Lasell 82. Player of the game for the Falcons will be JQ Walters. I have a feeling that this is going to be his moment where he puts the team on his back and final asserts himself as the true leader and star of this team.
Well, the Saints game went pretty much according to script. Saints tried nothing new on defense, nothing new on offense, and nothing new in transition. JWU jumped out 22 - 10 after the first 8 minutes, 42 - 22 after 15 minutes and the rest of the game was played to fill out the box score. I keep watching these games thinking this will be the night the Saints try something new to slow down a superior team, but that never happens. JWU wins the game by a score of 97 - 79. Another 17 loss season is in the record books for the Saints and JWU moves on to the championship game.
Well I think I speak for everyone (with the exception of Saint Paul) when I say that we all got the match up most of us predicted and wanted from the start of this season.
Wasn't able to watch the JWU vs Emmanuel game mostly because I was tuned into AMC vs Lasell but that one clearly panned out just as expected with a JWU victory. Quick glimpse at the box score shows Greenaways continued domination of every opponent and the JWU overall defensive efficiency.
Albertus played an outstanding game last night. In my opinion it was one of their better performances of the season. You just knew deep down that Oliver and company wasn't going to let Lasell beat them 3 times in one season. The defense was superb; the energy was up and surprisingly enough the free throw shooting was phenomenal. They forced so many tough shots and made Lasell work for everything they got. While Grant Ellis may have had more points in a few other games this was his best game thus far as a Falcon. He played stifling defense and his 1st half shooting is what allowed Albertus to open up with a lead and hold it into halftime. When he hustles and goes all out you can see why this kid was a D1 level talent.....my only issue with him thus far was that he didn't always do that but after last night he quickly made me a believer. I hope he stays motivated going forward. You can't say enough about JQ Walters. This kid is so skilled and so strong. I love watching him play the game. He does a really nice job of avoiding fouls and his ability to put the ball on the court and get to the rim at 6'6 is scary at this level. I love the way he goes about his business too....never complains and you can just tell he loves the game of basketball. It's a pleasure watching him play. He continues to take steps in becoming the outright leader and focal point of this team. Shonteay Lovell is a beast and only a freshman but he is KILLING me of late!! I know some of the fouls are bogus but he just has to be smarter and find a way to stay on the court because without him in the game we desperately miss a rebounder and his ability to finish at the rim. Ryan Pittman is going to be a star.....I truly believe this. I think starting this season for him as a freshman was the best thing for him......he is a clutch player and I expect him to take a major step next season.
Johnson and Wales vs Albertus Magnus for the GNAC Crown!!
I will give my preview on the Championship game later!
My scores have been pretty spot on this entire tournament. 100% luck I can assure you
I see that Newbury College in Brookline , MA has allowed their coach to resign after 93 loses in the last five years. By GNAC standards that record isn't so bad, my guy has 126 loses in the last seven seasons and his career is still going strong. Maybe Newbury will be looking for someone with experience at playing a non traditional transition game? maybe ?
Congrats to JWU for winning the GNAC. Albertus played hard; but some wasted possesions cost the falcons. Great effort by them! Greenway and company are dancing...
I know that the GNAC is not held in high regard when it comes to at large bids for the NCAA tournament. However, it is possible that both Albertus and Lasell could get some post season action with an ECAC invitation. I hope they don't have to play each other again on the first round of any ECAC tournament.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on February 28, 2016, 12:31:02 PM
I know that the GNAC is not held in high regard when it comes to at large bids for the NCAA tournament. However, it is possible that both Albertus and Lasell could get some post season action with an ECAC invitation. I hope they don't have to play each other again on the first round of any ECAC tournament.
Albertus didn't declare for the ECAC so that won't happen, but Anna Maria, Mt. Ida and Lasell did declare (here's the full list: http://www.ecacsports.com/sports/mbkb/Championships/Division_III/2015-16/DIII_Men-s_Basketball_Declared_Teams.pdf)
Mt. Ida isn't eligible because you have to be at .500 to get in, but Lasell & Anna Maria probably get in, not sure if they will play each other. There's only 13 teams that declared (and I'm pretty sure the deadline passed by now), Mt. Ida is ineligible while Endicott & Fitchburg state are also ineligible now........because they've won their conference's AQ so as of now there are only 10 teams. Nichols state will be the #1 seed most likely, while Lasell will probably be the #2 seed. Not sure Anna Maria is as bad as the #7 seed but I think they can get a 3-5 seed depending on how many of those other teams are ineligible which I'll try to go through later.
So here's the record of all the declared teams:
Anna Maria 14-12 (eligible)
Colby Sawyer 19-7 (eligible)
Elms 14-12 (eligible)
Emerson 11-16 (ineligible)
Endicott 18-10 (ineligible, won the AQ so in NCAA's)
Fitchburg State 18-9 (ineligible, won the AQ so in NCAA's)
Green Mountain 21-4 (not sure. They were ineligible for the conference/NCAA tourney, so I'm not sure why the ECAC's would be any different)
Lasell 18-9 (eligible)
Mt. Ida 11-15 (ineligible)
Nichols 23-4 (eligible)
Pine Manor 15-10 (eligible)
Southern Maine 15-11 (eligible)
University of New England 14-13 (eligible)
So of the 13 teams we have 4 that are ineligible (in red), 8 that are eligible (in green) and 1 that's a question (orange). If it turns out Green Mountain is ineligible that leaves 8 eligible teams so it works out perfectly. And let's say they are. I'd rank them:
#1 Nichols
#2 Lasell
#3 Southern Maine
#4 Colby Sawyer
#5 Anna Maria
#6 Elms
#7 Pine Manor
#8 Univ of New England
If Green Mountain is eligible slot them in at #3, slide everyone else down, and leave of Univ of New England.
Well Falcon Fans it was a hell of a season! I know I said I was going to do a preview before the Championship game but I just couldn't get myself up to picking against the Falcons and deep down I knew that was what I was going to have to do so I decided to just wait it out.
Hats off to Coach Benton and JWU......They're a solid team who I hope does really well in the big dance and represents the GNAC proudly.
I was at the game on Saturday (with about a thousand other people way up in the top row) and I just want to say that the sportsmanship these 2 teams displayed at the end of the game was really nice to see. Everyone knows that JWU and Albertus is without question the most heated rivalry in the GNAC and I would put it up as one of the better rivalries in the Northeast. There is certainly no love lost between Coach Oliver and Coach Benton but after Saturday display of sportsmanship I saw a case of what the kids these days LOL refer to as "Real Recognizing Real." Both teams left it all on the court and the respect for each other at the end of the game was visible. Albertus sort of passed the torch to the more experience Wildcats for a season and they took it deservingly so. I just thought it was really nice to see.
So us Falcon Fans move into next season. I don't think there is any question that we will be the team to beat next year. We return a ton of talent with the only exception being Marc Wilson who had an outstanding career as a Falcon. He was a grinder who got better ever season and all the hard work and dedication that he put into the program on the court with Coach Oliver only made him a stronger individual as well outside of the basketball court. Hopefully everyone comes back. I think the core is a lock to return like JQ, Shonteay, Grant, Dunbar and Pittman as well as the glue guys like Langston and James and so on. Not to mention what Oliver will bring in. He has proven time in and time out that he can recruit with the best of them and I have a feeling that he is going to hit the recruiting trail hard this offseason. I already can't wait to hear of news of possible future Falcons so if anyone hears anything at all please share it to the board as you all know I will.
Shonteay Lovell will not only be GNAC Rookie of the Year but I think he should clearly be Northeast Rookie of the Year as well. By the end of his career this kid will be an All American and could possibly go down as the greatest Falcon of all time if he continues to work hard and do what he is doing. His numbers this season when you compare them to the all-time Albertus greats after their freshman season are already ahead of the pace they all set individually.
Another off season of crossing our fingers as well with Coach Oliver! Hopefully nobody comes a knocking!! There are always a number of higher profile jobs that open up in the off season which is selfishly a cause for concern for us Falcon Fans!!
Maybe the down year (runner up lol) will keep the rumors from swirling around Mitch! Here's to hoping!
And yeah, if that core stays together this team will be quite scary next year especially with JWU losing 60-70% of their production.
Dave!!
I saw the twitter debate/exchange you went on last night with another "D3HoopJunky"........For anyone who didn't see it that was the gentleman's twitter handle which happens to be the same as mine (Different spelling but still.....)
I would like to point out that it was NOT me!! He didnt seem to get the criteria at all and had a very hard time grasping the concept that his team would not be dancing. I am sure you knew this already because you know my allegiance is to the Albertus Magnus Falcons but I wanted to point it out to you to be sure! :D ;D ;)
LilDave.....Isn't it amazing that this is what we consider a down year now! We have become so spoiled!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 29, 2016, 09:16:53 AM
Dave!!
I saw the twitter debate/exchange you went on last night with another "D3HoopJunky"........For anyone who didn't see it that was the gentleman's twitter handle which happens to be the same as mine (Different spelling but still.....)
I would like to point out that it was NOT me!! He didnt seem to get the criteria at all and had a very hard time grasping the concept that his team would not be dancing. I am sure you knew this already because you know my allegiance is to the Albertus Magnus Falcons but I wanted to point it out to you to be sure! :D ;D ;)
HA! Until I read this, the thought it was you never crossed my mind. I am pretty sure knowing his allegiance and lack of understanding the system (along with the team
he was arguing for) didn't allow me to think it could have been you. LOL
HAHAHA! Very good Dave!
He must have been greatly disappointed at around 12:45 yesterday afternoon!
I noticed on the list this year that St. Anselm's in NH is in the exploratory year to move from D2 to D3. Perhaps easier than finding a different conference might be to improve your own - St. A usually has a decent team. Start recruiting.
Hoops Fan......List?????
Is there a data sheet or website that has all possible conference moves or division changes from year to year? Pardon my ignorance but if there is could you maybe attach a link or give me some direction on where to find it
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 01, 2016, 09:11:20 AM
Hoops Fan......List?????
Is there a data sheet or website that has all possible conference moves or division changes from year to year? Pardon my ignorance but if there is could you maybe attach a link or give me some direction on where to find it
I just googled it the other day. "NCAA provisional membership" something like they. It shows all the schools transitioning and where they are in the process.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 01, 2016, 08:15:21 AM
I noticed on the list this year that St. Anselm's in NH is in the exploratory year to move from D2 to D3. Perhaps easier than finding a different conference might be to improve your own - St. A usually has a decent team. Start recruiting.
Yeah... they announced this last summer... they are not going to the GNAC. They are interested in the NEWMAC and I am pretty sure that will be officially announced in late May or early June.
Someone at Albertus told me that there were no more ECACs. Apparently not since 5 teams are going to it. Anna Maria only gnac team.
Quote from: 7express on February 28, 2016, 06:29:36 PM
So here's the record of all the declared teams:
Anna Maria 14-12 (eligible)
Colby Sawyer 19-7 (eligible)
Elms 14-12 (eligible)
Emerson 11-16 (ineligible)
Endicott 18-10 (ineligible, won the AQ so in NCAA's)
Fitchburg State 18-9 (ineligible, won the AQ so in NCAA's)
Green Mountain 21-4 (not sure. They were ineligible for the conference/NCAA tourney, so I'm not sure why the ECAC's would be any different)
Lasell 18-9 (eligible)
Mt. Ida 11-15 (ineligible)
Nichols 23-4 (eligible)
Pine Manor 15-10 (eligible)
Southern Maine 15-11 (eligible)
University of New England 14-13 (eligible)
So of the 13 teams we have 4 that are ineligible (in red), 8 that are eligible (in green) and 1 that's a question (orange). If it turns out Green Mountain is ineligible that leaves 8 eligible teams so it works out perfectly. And let's say they are. I'd rank them:
#1 Nichols
#2 Lasell
#3 Southern Maine
#4 Colby Sawyer
#5 Anna Maria
#6 Elms
#7 Pine Manor
#8 Univ of New England
If Green Mountain is eligible slot them in at #3, slide everyone else down, and leave of Univ of New England.
GNAC awards all look pretty good with one exception. Don't see how the coaches could vote the Saints big man onto third team. If it were not for his control of the paint at both ends of the floor I am not sure the Saints would have won any games at all. Clearly he was a second team performer and the most valuable player on the Saints team.
Saint-Paul
I am with you on Davis being a second team quality player but considering who made the second team I think the only appropriate switch would be with his fellow teammate John Clay. I think that would be an appropriate switch if they were to do it all over again because like you said Davis was clearly the MVP of this team and without his size and presence inside I am not quite sure if the Saints would have had the win total they did this season
I really like Davis; very productive player. Will he be a senior next year? I think Saints will be in the hunt next year.
No, Davis is listed as a senior this year even though he only played two years for the Saints. The strange part is that he played in 48 games for the Saints but started only 33. His career numbers are very close to a double / double, but the coach thought it best for the team to bring him off the bench for one third of his career. It is coaching decisions like that other programs don't make. That is why the Saints will remain one of the bottom GNAC teams for a long time.
Good luck to the Wildcats tonight. Represent the almighty GNAC! ;D ;D
Good luck to Johnson and Wales! (Ouchhhhhh that hurt)
But honestly lets hope they represent the GNAC conference well and maybe pull off a few wins.......I think they are capable of doing so.
Greenaway and Garrick have certainly earned this moment and I think there team defense and on ball pressure will be the difference in there games if they are able to go on a run.
What happened to the last 35 secomds of the JWU game? The stupid live stream went off the air with the score tied at 73. doesn't any video intern monitor these broadcasts?
Quote from: Saint-Paul on March 04, 2016, 07:31:20 PM
What happened to the last 35 secomds of the JWU game? The stupid live stream went off the air with the score tied at 73. doesn't any video intern monitor these broadcasts?
For some reason the particular site that runs a bunch of the northeastern teams' video stream always seems to go black on me. Maybe it's a different issue but I also had issues. I just saw that the score was 75-73 J&W and the game was over.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on March 04, 2016, 07:31:20 PM
What happened to the last 35 secomds of the JWU game? The stupid live stream went off the air with the score tied at 73. doesn't any video intern monitor these broadcasts?
I just hit play and it started right back up again.
Go GNAC; JWU wins vs trinity. The GNAC has now won first round games 6 out of the last 7 years. Maybe that can earn the conference a little more respect.
JWU looked better today than they did against Trinity. they shot the ball better, they rebounded better, and they made their lay ups and free throws. If they keep playing this way they could be a final four team.
They looked good; they clearly were the better team. Now they play tufts who has been without one of their best players for a few games. Jwu has confidence... Keep it going!
Congratulations to the Wildcats for winning the weekend here in Plattsburgh. I was hoping my Cardinals would be the ones advancing to the Sweet 16 but the loss of one of our stars prior to the weekend hurt us and we didn't play well against Fitchburg State. There were 4 quality teams that took the court this weekend and Johnson and Wales walked off with the prize.
This team is more than Quarry Greenaway and Tom Garrick but if you're going to have a 1-2 punch those are great guys to have. Entirely possible they could win another pair next weekend.
Thanks for the kind words magicman
Unfortunately there are no Johnson and Wales representatives on this board as it is dominated by mostly Albertus supporters (including myself) with an Emmanuel fan trickled in the mix (Saint Paul)
I think the Wildcats have a good chance of making the Elite 8 but I am a bit hesitant still to pick them right now because I really feel that they can be exposed a bit on the low post against Tufts. I have said it in the past and I will say it again about JWU, the lack of an interior presences on both offense and defense was going to hurt this team in the tournament and I have a feeling that this may finally be the opponent who can hurt them in this area.
Trinity had a few strong bigs for sure but they didnt get a ton of touches inside during that game which from a Trinity standpoint I thought that was a coaching mistake. When Trinity did get the ball on the low post they converted quite easily on a number of different baskets and looks. Fitchburg St did not really present an interior challenge at all. Kwame Lee is 6'9 but he doesn't play like a guy who is that size.......not to mention there entire offense was run through there guard play.
I feel that Tufts will have them scouted pretty well and try and expose this a little bit. Coach Sheldon has been doing this for a long time so I expect that they will have a game plan strategy to establish the low post early
Was just kinda snooping around for some info on the JWU/Tufts game tonight and came across this story on JWU's Michael Kiser. Pretty cool stuff...
http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2015-16/releases/20160310uy2za5 (http://providence.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2015-16/releases/20160310uy2za5)
Enjoyed watching JWU play against some non GNAC opponents in the NCAA tournament. They played hard against Tufts but did not always make the best decisions with the ball. JWU was quicker and had better foot speed than Tufts but they did not move the ball very well. JWU only had 6 assists for 39 field goals. That is too much one on one for an important game. Tufts moved the ball better and got easier shots. Open shots on their home court gave them a big advantage. Would have liked to see JWU make just one or two more passes on each possession to get a few better looks. Overall a great season for JWU and a nice tribute to their seniors.
Great season for JWU... Those seniors had a great run.. You are right Junkie; tufts executed very well; reminded me of Virginia. Played excellent team defense and ran their offense to perfection. Good luck to Tufts tonight.
I've been able to get out and attend some of the state championships games going on right now in CT and I must say there is a ton of really talented players in this state. I saw quite a few players that I would consider legit prospects for D1, D2 and more than enough who could have really respectable D3 careers. I am sure Coach Oliver and all coaches for that matter are hitting the recruiting trail hard and preparation for next season and possibly the years to come. The CT State Finals are at the Mohegan Sun Arena this weekend. While I would love to attend I am not quite sure if that is the safest and healthiest trip for me personally :D.....Basketball and Gambling. I'm afraid I may not ever come home ;D ;D
Watching JWU go deep into the NCAA tournament against non GNAC teams inspired me to see how the Saints have done when competing against teams outside the GNAC conference. In the last seven years the Saints have played outside their conference 48 times posting a record of 7 - 41. That is exactly seven more wins than I expected to see. I didn't think they could beat anyone except the bottom of the GNAC. Unfortunately none of those seven wins came against above 0.500 teams, so I guess that is really like playing against the bottom of the GNAC. An NCAA at large bid is probably not in the Saints near future so there is no need to pump up their non conference schedule. Averaging one non conference win a year is just fine.
Hats off to Quarry Greenaway who was named a D3Hoops.com 3rd Team All-American the other day. Very deserving of the honor and a nice topper to an outstanding career.
Between the last few seasons with Albertus and this season's team with JWU, say what you want about the bottom half of the GNAC but the team that goes on and advances to the NCAA tournament has represented the GNAC proudly and have combined to beat some very good teams and well established programs. Again we all know the GNAC overall is weak but I have no doubt that this conference because of how competitive and physical the in-conference games are amongst GNAC opponents that it prepares the conference winner for post season play more so then maybe other conferences.
Waiting on the D3Hoop.com all region teams as I suspect Shontaey Lovell will most likely be named the New England rookie of the year. I took a brief look around at some other programs and conferences within NE and while there were certainly a number of very good freshman within the region, if you look at Lovells entire body of work and the way he fills the stat sheet, I think you would be hard pressed to find another freshman contributing as much as he did this year for a young Albertus team that far exceeded expectations this season.
This team is going to make some serious noise next year and I can't wait to see how this young group improves and what Coach Oliver will bring in terms of recruitment. He tends to find 1 or 2 gems a year that make you scratch your head and say "how the heck is this kid at the D3 level in New Haven CT at a school with an enrollment of less than 1000 students"......I don't think enough has been said about what Coach Oliver has done here at this school and the 360 degree turnaround that this program has made under his leadership. It truly is extraordinary. I really wish the school and athletics department in terms of funding and overall support would get behind this program more. If you drive around CT you see Albertus billboards and advertising, you hear people talking about the basketball program.......honestly none of this advertising or excitement ever occurred before Oliver got here. Coincidence??? I think not!!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 21, 2016, 01:52:05 PM
Hats off to Quarry Greenaway who was named a D3Hoops.com 3rd Team All-American the other day. Very deserving of the honor and a nice topper to an outstanding career.
Between the last few seasons with Albertus and this season's team with JWU, say what you want about the bottom half of the GNAC but the team that goes on and advances to the NCAA tournament has represented the GNAC proudly and have combined to beat some very good teams and well established programs. Again we all know the GNAC overall is weak but I have no doubt that this conference because of how competitive and physical the in-conference games are amongst GNAC opponents that it prepares the conference winner for post season play more so then maybe other conferences.
Waiting on the D3Hoop.com all region teams as I suspect Shontaey Lovell will most likely be named the New England rookie of the year. I took a brief look around at some other programs and conferences within NE and while there were certainly a number of very good freshman within the region, if you look at Lovells entire body of work and the way he fills the stat sheet, I think you would be hard pressed to find another freshman contributing as much as he did this year for a young Albertus team that far exceeded expectations this season.
This team is going to make some serious noise next year and I can't wait to see how this young group improves and what Coach Oliver will bring in terms of recruitment. He tends to find 1 or 2 gems a year that make you scratch your head and say "how the heck is this kid at the D3 level in New Haven CT at a school with an enrollment of less than 1000 students"......I don't think enough has been said about what Coach Oliver has done here at this school and the 360 degree turnaround that this program has made under his leadership. It truly is extraordinary. I really wish the school and athletics department in terms of funding and overall support would get behind this program more. If you drive around CT you see Albertus billboards and advertising, you hear people talking about the basketball program.......honestly none of this advertising or excitement ever occurred before Oliver got here. Coincidence??? I think not!!
Did you ask the AMC SID if Lovell was nominated for All-Region? Without that nomination he wasn't going to be considered.
Also, from my perspective, Lovell really tailed off towards the end of the year. A lot of freshmen get tired by the end of the season and performance suffers. He was very impressive in Nov and Dec, less so later on. That matters.
That being said, it's not just Pat and Dave making those selections - it's a voting body of regional coaches, etc - who choose from all the nominees. I know there's been a lot of back and forth about NE teams not being willing to play AMC - I have some doubts about those claims, but playing more teams from bigger conferences might help exposure.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 14, 2016, 08:25:16 AM
I've been able to get out and attend some of the state championships games going on right now in CT and I must say there is a ton of really talented players in this state. I saw quite a few players that I would consider legit prospects for D1, D2 and more than enough who could have really respectable D3 careers. I am sure Coach Oliver and all coaches for that matter are hitting the recruiting trail hard and preparation for next season and possibly the years to come. The CT State Finals are at the Mohegan Sun Arena this weekend. While I would love to attend I am not quite sure if that is the safest and healthiest trip for me personally :D.....Basketball and Gambling. I'm afraid I may not ever come home ;D ;D
+1 Junkie. Now that I'm in coaching I've seen a lot of these teams and I've seen some great players. There's a couple really good one's going to big time D-1 programs (I've seen people with scholarship offers at Northwestern & Wisconsin (Big 10), LaSalle & UMass (Atlantic 10), St. John's (Big East), Syracuse (ACC), and Auburn (SEC), not to mention the division 2 and division 3 programs). It's going to be fun to follow their journey's through college either the players I've coached against, scouted for, or just watch because I knew how talented they were.
BTW Junkie, not sure where you, but I know there;s a couple of high school showcase events next week for the seniors: The first is next Monday (March 28) at Fairfield Ludlowe high school, the other is the 30th at the Sheehan Center in Bridgeport, and I think the JCC event is around April 16. Girls have a showcase event this evening at North Branford high school
Hoops Fan........I did not ask the SID at Albertus if he was nominated but I can almost guarantee he was. In years past Coach Oliver and the SID have always taken care of this. We have had a number of players in the past few years represented on these teams and I don't see why this year that would have changed. I completely agree with your assessment of Lovell. He did slow down a bit in regards to his rebounding but his point totals and FG% (which is astonishingly high for a freshman) remains tops in the league. Certainly every freshman does hit the "wall" if you will at some point in there first season of college hoops but when you look at the overall body of work from start to finish I think Lovell has done more than enough to garner such an accolade. There were a few other freshman who could certainly push him for this award and the one that stood out to me most was Marcos Echevarria from Nichols College. He had an outstanding freshman season as well but in terms of his production he was a bit one dimensional. He was a shooter, and any avid fans of Nichols I am sure would argue that he did more than that as I only saw Nichols play twice the entire season but again when it comes to filling the stat sheet and your overall value to your teams success.....it's Lovell all the way
That being said......that kid Echevarria from Nichols can really shoot the ball. He has a smooth quick release and can really light it up. I was very impressed with his shot and he can do both in terms of spotting up or catching and shooting in rhythm.
7express......Thanks for the info. I just may have to check one of those Showcases out. Is it run by coaches throughout the state or is it basically "open gym" but more organized. Do they put the kids through drills and showcase particular skills? Or do they just run 5 on 5 games??
Either way I am definitely going to try and go......I was just curious to the format and with you being a coach and all I figured you probably know best
Thanks again!
Junkie: It's an All Star game for the most part. Think of the NBA All Star game minus about 150 points so instead of a 196-173 score you get like a 95-90 score. But really pretty much no defense, and no offensive plays with the best seniors in the state. It's pretty much a glorified "playground" game with officials. There are coaches but they pretty much do nothing. I was talking with my friend who coaches the Canton girls last night along with the Windsor Locks coach who coached in one of these games a couple years ago and they said they basically did nothing and just let the kids play. Lots of 1-on-1 iso plays I saw last night-and that was girls, so I'm sure it's about the same in the boys game as well. But it is fun because high school coaches, especially if they have any kids playing will go, regional area college coaches will go: either to look at their players they've signed or to look at others (because there are still a few players that are unsigned, and these are their last opportunities). At the girls game last night I saw coaches from Adelphi, Emmanuel, Western Connecticut & Keene State were there, and I'm sure there were others that I missed. Here's the roster for the CHSCA event at Maloney High school in Meriden tomorrow night.
http://www.gametimect.com/boys-basketball-chsca-star-games-held-march-23/
Here's the roster for the JCC game held on April 9 at the Sheehan Center in Bridgeport: http://www.gametimect.com/basketball-55th-jcc-schoolboyschoolgirl-classic-held-april-10/. Most of the really good players from the CHSCA game will be at the JCC game as well (KeAndre Fair, Mark Carbone, Rich Kelly, and Robert Duran). Not sure if I'll make it up to Maloney high school tomorrow night because we have nobody there, and I don't really know anyone there, but I'll definitely be at the JCC game on the 10th.
Also Junkie, if you go to a showcase those two are the two main ones to go as those are the biggest. Not sure what the two one's next week are but I think those are just for local players, not for players throughout the state, but if I find out differently I'll let you know.
Hold onto your hat's Falcon fans. I've just discovered that our great head Coach Mitch Oliver is a candidate for the Central Connecticut State University job. Obviously this is Division I and if he could somehow land the job he would replace a CCSU and CT coaching legend in Howie Dickenman. This has officially turned into a very stressful next week or two as we sit tight and see what happens with their search going forward.
What an outstanding honor that would be for Oliver but yet such a heartbreaking loss for Albertus Magnus and the fans of this team.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I forgot Dickenman retired...
http://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-state-college-notebook-0304-20160303-story.html (http://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-state-college-notebook-0304-20160303-story.html)
At least he wasn't mentioned here at the beginning of the month. Perhaps some of those candidates haven't panned out so now they've moved on to him?
If you scroll down to a story from yesterday Coach Oliver was not mentioned as those who were rumored to have been interviewed. Interesting that Wesleyan's coach Reilly is mentioned in the article because he has a history with some of the people on the search committee.
that last post was so funny. You guys are all worried about your coach leaving to take another job, and i am worried that my coach is staying. Cannot understand why my guy gets his contract renewed losing year after losing year. It must be that the administration just doesn't care about the athletic program. I think that you guys will be ok, CCSU will most likely hire a D-1 assistant from UCONN or UMASS.
I think we are safe from the CCSU job!! It appears Central CT will make their hire today according to an article in the Hartford Courant. Looks like its going to be Jay Young who was an assistant at Stony Brook and is coincidentally best friends with the AD from Central. Funny how those things seem to help and work out isn't it? LOL
Pat Sellers and Donyell Marshall are the other 2 finalists out of 60 who applied. A number were interviewed and from my understanding Oliver was one of them even though as warriocat mentioned above his name was not listed in the previous article of a handful that they chose to publicly released
I was really pulling for Coach Oliver here while at the same time deep down selfishly hoping he would remain at Albertus! The games are so entertaining and I love watching him coach and more importantly his team play.
Cant wait to here of any recruits considering or committing for next season already!
I would have to think that Albertus would be considered the favorite to win the GNAC next year. JWU graduates almost everyone. Same with Lasell and Anna Marie. Emmanuel loses their big man who averaged a close double / double and also their only four year experienced small forward. St Joe was very young and inexperienced but was also short on skill and talent. Suffolk and Mt Ida did not beat any of the top teams this year. Don't really see any surprises for next year.
I have to agree with you on that assessment Saint-Paul.
Albertus brings back a ton of talent and JWU and others lose quite a bit. Should be a very strong season for the Falcons. I wouldnt count the Wildcats out as they still have some quality players returning but overall the Falcons should be able to roll next year. As you mentioned, Lasell and Anna Maria lose a lot as well and the Monks of St. Joes don't have the athleticism to hang with Albertus or JWU.
That all being said.....those type of years scare me the most especially come conference tourney time. One slip up and your season is over because we all know the GNAC is a 1 bid league!!
A buddy of mine told me Damian Grant from Wilby is headed to Albertus! Here is his Hudl tape:
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/4996715/damian-grant
As the school where Lemar Larsen came from, he's a similar mold. A bit less filled out (of course has time to grow) but a little more explosive I think. Has a knack for the ball and knows where to position himself down low. Hopefully he has the motor and drive Lemar did.
Thats great news LilDave,
Honestly I saw him play a couple games this past High School season and I remembered saying to myself that this kid is going to be a pretty darn good college player if given the opportunity. He looks every bit of 6'6 and has a ton of untapped potential that we all know Coach Oliver can bring out. Nice get here for the Falcons. He has the ability to turn into a starter down the road and may even help contribute some significant minutes in his first season on the back line!
Keep the recruiting news coming! Its the only thing that keeps me sane in the off-season! I have my ears open as well and will post right away if there is any breaking news!
Just got word from a good friend of mine who is an ND Fairfield alum that he heard Jesse McIntosh is heading to the Falcons. Another very solid player to add to the program. I believe he is right around 6'2 and is a very good playmaker who can score the ball and get others involved as well. I don't think he is a player who will contribute anything of significance right away but has the potential to turn into a very good D3 basketball player at Albertus under Coach Oliver. I remember reading an article about him 2 years ago when he was injured at ND that talked about how important he was to that team and his positive outlook on the game even though his season that year ended early due to that injury.
Thats 2 as of right now that we know of. Cant wait to see and hear about more! Especially JUCO and transfers! The Falcons should reign supreme again in The GNAC this season!
Just found out as well from the same contact that there is a SG coming in who used to play with McIntosh on the AAU circuit??? Don't have a name yet but working on it.
Jermichael Younger? Another name that I just heard being thrown around for the Falcons. To be honest the name does not ring a bell to me at all. Going to do a little digging now. Apparently he plays in CT somewhere and this is the kid I made reference too in my previous post that played AAU with McIntosh so I don't think it will be too hard to find info on him.
Could not believe my eyes when I read in the NCAA news that Kentucky State hired Jamaal Jackson as their new head coach. My state of excitement was short lived when I noticed the spelling was not the same as the Saints guy. I should have known that no school in their right mind would hire my guy. Oh well, another long season for the Saints.
Saint - Even in the off season your posts never cease to amaze me! I saw that hire as well and I honestly ran right over to their website to verify! I knew that there was no way in hell it could have been Coach Jackson from the Saints. I don't want to bash him (you seem to have that under control LOL) but I knew there was no way he made the jump to a higher division with the way his teams have performed over the past years.
And for all the Albertus supporters out there, the name of the other guard that I was trying to figure out in my previous posts is Jahmerikah Green-Younger from McMahon HS per New England Recruiting Report. I honestly dont know much about him but we shall see as they say once the season starts if he has any juice or not for the college level. All incoming guards will be behind Ryan Pittman to start the season anyways as I hope and truly believe that he is going to take a huge step forward in his progression in running the team this season from the PG position.
Anyone have any other recruiting news for other GNAC schools?
Albertus isn't done yet as I just heard there is a big time recruit coming to the program. Trying to confirm it now and will update the board accordingly.
GNAC will add two teams after this season
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2016/08/colby-sawyer-regis-join-GNAC
Albertus is gonna be absolutely loaded this year. I've been told they have 4 JUCO transfers that include a 1st team All American and a 3rd team All American. I was trying to find there names but it is hard to decipher who they may be because there are 3 divisions at the JUCO level (1,2 and 3) which leaves a lot of speculation as to who they may be.
Hopefully 1 is a guard and 1 big power forward or center! Even though the team was very good last year (and young) I really thought they lacked a defensive enforcer. Granted we were spoiled the last couple of years with Big Vic but I really think that if Oliver recruits athletes who can lock down on defense, this program can go to an entirely new level. Everyone in the country is well aware at this point that no matter what team he has Oliver and the Falcons are going to score a ton of points!
Just got word that we have a D2 guard who has transferred to Albertus for the upcoming season. Name is Devin Coleman, not sure what D2 school he played at but I know he was born and raised in CT. Still waiting to hear who these JUCO transfers are but once I do I will update the board.
Either way it sounds like Ryan Pittman is really going to have to work his tail off and show Coach Oliver that he deserves to remain the starter. I hope he does cause I think it would be good for him take on the role as the 1 and keep it. I like his game a lot but there are clearly some very talented guards coming in who will no doubt be gunning for his spot in the starting lineup. And we all know that Oliver is going to start the best player regardless of history.
Its looks like Devin Coleman is from Bridgeport and was at Young Harris College. Website says he's 6"2"/189lbs. Played in 27 games (14 min/g) and average 4.7pts during his time there.
Albertus2007....Welcome Back! It was getting a little lonely on here LOL. Thought I might have lost a few posters. Hopefully you'll be around this year along with Falcons2010 and maybe a few of the others from years past. It's always good to get another persons perspective on the outcome of the games.
Plus this seasons team is shaping up to be a really strong one! Have you heard anything about the other recruits coming in this year?
Looks like before Young Harris he was at Monroe Community College in NY. Started 25 of 27 games, averaged 10.8 points, 3 assists and 3 boards a game.
Little note I found from an article after his senior year: Bassick- Senior averaged 13.5 points ... Helped the Lions win the FCIAC championship for the second straight season and reach the Class L quarterfinals ... Season highs: 27 points, 15 assists, 11 rebounds ... All-FCIAC East team selection.
Schedules are up and posted thanks to D3Hoops.com
I am really intrigued by this seasons non conference schedule for Albertus. I think it is without question the strongest non conference schedule we have had in years and will only help us as a team going forward. November 15th is going to be an absolute battle to start the season against Babson.
Anyone have any news on recruits? I cant get names from anyone! Other then the ones we already were able to figure out. Driving me crazy!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on October 06, 2016, 08:05:39 AM
Schedules are up and posted thanks to D3Hoops.com
I am really intrigued by this seasons non conference schedule for Albertus. I think it is without question the strongest non conference schedule we have had in years and will only help us as a team going forward. November 15th is going to be an absolute battle to start the season against Babson.
One thing I have subscribed to for a number of years after witnessing it first hand and from afar a number of time: when a coach gets the chance to serve on a RAC, they almost immediately change their scheduling habits. Furthermore, they also stop making excuses for their scheduling and suddenly have many more competitive opponents on their out-of-conference schedule. I think this is another perfect example of how serving on a RAC opens the eyes a bit more of a coach.
I have told many coaches that they should consider serving on their RACs even if they did it 10 or more years ago. I think in a major way it improves their team and conference's point of view.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on July 19, 2016, 10:53:49 AM
Saint - Even in the off season your posts never cease to amaze me! I saw that hire as well and I honestly ran right over to their website to verify! I knew that there was no way in hell it could have been Coach Jackson from the Saints. I don't want to bash him (you seem to have that under control LOL) but I knew there was no way he made the jump to a higher division with the way his teams have performed over the past years.
And for all the Albertus supporters out there, the name of the other guard that I was trying to figure out in my previous posts is Jahmerikah Green-Younger from McMahon HS per New England Recruiting Report. I honestly dont know much about him but we shall see as they say once the season starts if he has any juice or not for the college level. All incoming guards will be behind Ryan Pittman to start the season anyways as I hope and truly believe that he is going to take a huge step forward in his progression in running the team this season from the PG position.
That kid is a great 3 point shooter.
Hey 7Express,
Care to expand on that a little? Have you seen him play live?
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on October 11, 2016, 01:51:15 PM
Hey 7Express,
Care to expand on that a little? Have you seen him play live?
Yah. McMahon high school (where he went) was in our league. Our lone game against them this year forced OT with an NBA 3 from the top of the key. Finished with 15 points with I think 3 or 4 three's. Team went down the tubes in the 2nd part of the season (they started the season like 6-0 or 7-0, were in the top 10 in Connecticut) and finished overall like 12-8 I think. I heard they had a lot of turmoil internally, but it wasn't through the fault of Green-Younger. I only saw them once since they failed to make the FCIAC tournament despite that hot start, but he was definitely the best player on the team. With that said, with the team Albertus looks to have this year I don't think he'll see many major minutes.
Wow!!! Thanks for the update 7!
Sounds like a kid who if he sticks with it could potentially help us down the road or perhaps off the bench this season!
From what I have heard it looks like Mason Jones is our official JUCO stud transfer for the next 2 seasons. He transfers in from Brookdale CC where he was a JUCO All American and Regional Player of the Year.
I was able to find last years Brookdale roster and he is listed as a Guard standing at 6'3. He put up some very impressive numbers last season. What a great addition to the team.
I cant wait to see what these kids are made of come November 15th at Babson. I just really hope they have a good webcast for the game! According to other posts I have seen it looks like Babson will clearly be a Top 10 team to start the season and could even be Top 5, maybe even the preseason #1. Either way you slice it I think that by years end this is going to be a matchup of 2 NCAA tournament teams who have the ability to go on a deep March Tournament run.
Hey guys.. Sorry, I couldn't remember my password so I couldn't post much. It's very exciting to hear about the new recruits coming in. Coach Oliver likes to play an up tempo style of basketball. So, I am sure that these guys will be able to play offense and on most nights that will be enough to win games. But what separated them from other teams was their interior defense and rebounding. Larsen and Vic were great at it and of course Askew. If one of these guys can play defense in a similar way with the addition of Jones and retuning Ellis, Lovell, and Walters this team should earn a 1 seed in conference. Babson will be a tough matchup with so many new players; on the road agaisnt a solid defensive team. But I am excited!!
yeah do we know if everyone that was scheduled to comeback is doing so? If so, does Jones just slot in for the departed Wilson and we roll Pittman, Jones, Ellis, Walters and Lovell? Hopefully some other newcomers can push for time, or someone like Dunbar takes a big step forward.
Saints schedule has been released and looks pretty much the same as last year. Two tournaments, a tip off at Wentworth against some easy teams and a New Years tournament in Virginia against some tough teams. Then the 18 GNAC games along with three non league contests against MIT, Wesleyan, and Curry. With all the graduating players from JWU, Lasell, and Anna Maria, i feel like the GNAC games should be even a little easier this year. If the Saints were going to make a run at one of the top four spots, this year would be their best chance.
Well Albertus fans, I have gathered that Chaunce Dunbar is no longer on the team. Not a huge hit overall because I thought his season last year was a bit disappointing due to his poor shooting numbers which we all thought were going to be really good. But he was a returning player none the less. I think his game was really limited. He wasn't a very strong defender and offensively he was strictly a 3 point shooter. I just hope he stays enrolled in school and finishes out his academic career.
I haven't heard of anyone else not coming back yet but if I do I will be sure to update the board accordingly. Does anyone know of any scrimmages that Albertus is playing in this year and if they are open to the public or not? I remember a couple years back they scrimmaged University of Bridgeport and everyone was allowed into the gym that day to see the teams face off with each other. UB was a very strong D2 program at the time and we actually buried them in the scrimmage. That was the 1st year with Eian Davis and Big Vic along with Darius Watson. Same team that lost to D1 Central CT by 1 point and advanced to the Sweet 16 later in the year.
I hope that chance will earn his degree as well. I do agree that from a team standpoint his lost doesn't hurt the teams chances of earning a one seed and advancing to ncaa tournament. He could make the three ball but was way too inconsistent; which is why I believe he didn't earn more minutes. I believe that Ellis should fill the 2 guard role this year. He looks to have a more consistent deep threat.
I really liked the team coming back. Lovell, walters, and Ellis is a solid 3 man group. Now if the juco kids can pick up the offense and play with defensive intensity; then it might be a special season.
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 01, 2016, 08:15:21 AM
I noticed on the list this year that St. Anselm's in NH is in the exploratory year to move from D2 to D3. Perhaps easier than finding a different conference might be to improve your own - St. A usually has a decent team. Start recruiting.
The topic of St. Anselm moving to Div 3 was discussed last year. I saw this item from their AD released last week.
http://www.saintanselmhawks.com/information/From_the_Directors_Desk/2016-17/ADDesk_1v5_-_Oct_21_2016_revised_final_version.pdf
They were a Sweet 16 Div 2 team last year and traditionaly put out a solid team in the NE-10.
They are playing the waiting game... their planned move to D3 got slightly derailed... but I don't think they have abandoned the plan. A lot of NE10 teams are reconsidering their situations, so there could be more movement later. I also heard that the NE10 is frustrated with St. A. and might just tell them to go up that creek without their paddle. LOL
I just got word that Albertus scrimmaged D2 Mercy College last night and absolutley throttled them when 5 on 5 starters were on the court. I looked up Mercy and there roster. They certainly dont look like world beaters by any stretch of the imagination. But still certainly a good sign for the Falcons this year. Friend of mine who was at the game said that the Falcons are loaded with shooters and looked like an entirely new team defensively.
We all know that overall team defense is the step Albertus has to take in order to advance into the true upper echelon of teams both within the region and on a national scale. This could certainly be the year as I have read on multiple threads that the Northeast is in a "down" year in terms of overall quality teams.
I'm not trying to rain on anything... but scrimmages, even 5 on 5, mean nothing. It's like preseason NFL football. Teams are running specific plays no matter what they are facing. They are running through specific scenarios and plenty more. The other team is there to give them different looks than they get in practice, but who wins and by what score is pretty meaningless and not something many coaches even consider when they leave the gym.
Just two weeks until tip off and the Saints have posted their new roster for this season. Same old story. Six underclassmen from last year not on the team and the spots being filled with six new freshman. A junior guard who started 23 games and average 10 points per game is gone as well as an important 6'6 junior big man who would have added size and experience in the paint. You cannot build a program with player turnover like this. You are constantly playing inexperienced freshman against the other teams seasoned players. With all the graduations around the GNAC this year, this would have been the year to put experienced players on the court and make a run at the fourth spot.
Starting all over again, same old story.
Thats unfortunate to here Saint.
I too thought this would be a good year for Emmanuel to maybe make a push for a top 4 spot and have a better opportunity at making a deeper run in the GNAC tournament. Coach Jackson must have some very strong ties within that program to be able to hold onto his job this long with such minimal results. Either that or he is a smooth talker as well? Who knows
Well Falcon fans I just got some big news. And unfortunately it is not good news.
Shontaey Lovell will not be back this year for the Falcons. Apparently he tried to make the jump to a higher division. Whether or not he was successful in doing so is beyond my knowledge right now but I can confirm that he will not be back. Disappointed for sure but we still don't know the complete list of transfers and newcomers on this years squad. Lovell was undoubtedly a big time player and had an outstanding freshman season in terms of number for the Falcons.
It will be interesting to see how this team shapes up once we see everyone together on the court. Tuesday will be here before we know it. Does anyone know if Babson has a Live Video stream for the game?!?!
That's disappointing news for falcon fans but exciting news for him. I hope that he was able to find an opportunity to play at a scholarship level, earn his degree, and have a great career.
From an Albertus supporter stand point it is a huge lost. He was an all regional caliber player. I have already been thinking of the growth by him and walters. Along with having Ellis for a full year who is a pure shooter. That team with no additions would make Albertus the team to beat in the GNAC. Not to mention the hype around some of these recruits possibilty putting Albertus in a situation to win a NCAA game. We have to see if anyone can have the interior presence that he had lastvyear. Which has been a staple of Olivers offense. He likes to play fast and shoot the ball but always had the players who can get high percentage shots when needed; Askew, Watson, Vic.. hopefully one or two of the new guys can do it.
This is a tough first game, now made that much more difficult. Babson is a final four team that brings back a lot of players. Last year they had live streaming. I would imagine they have it this year as well.
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One day from the opener and we still don't have a roster up >:( >:( >:(
LilDave......So frustrating! There are a few teams in the GNAC that still don't have their rosters uploaded!!! Including Johnson and Wales.
I don't know if this is some type of cat and mouse between coaches to hold out as long as possible in terms of scouting. But it is super annoying to the fans of these teams!!!!
I suppose it could be on the SID as well but who knows!?!?!?!
Ask and you shall receive I guess!! The roster for the upcoming season has been uploaded.
http://albertusfalcons.com/sports/mbkb/2016-17/roster
The Falcons have also been tabbed to finish first in the preseason coaches poll as well.
http://albertusfalcons.com/sports/mbkb/2016-17/releases/20161114hk3t4j
Going to dive more into this later on and give my prediction for tomorrow night!
A heck of a lot of new faces. I noticed Shaq Mitchell is back on the roster as well.
Jemaa Yuori transfers in from Quinnipiac where it looks like he walked on.
Tons of new faces. A lot of freshman which is nice to see including some very good size up front.
It will be interesting to see how these guys come together. And even more interesting to see how Oliver uses his rotations and finds out what works best as the season progresses. That to me is the mark of a truly good Coach, one who can understand his team completely and make all the pieces come together. That sometimes may not always require having the most athletic or necessarily best player on the court from one particular moment to the next.
Hey guys... good to have college basketball back. Especially as we get ready for a new falcons season. A lot of new faces and two names that are missing. Lovell and James. I believed that lovell, pittman, Walters, and Ellis were good enough to win the GNAC. Without adding anyone. Now, missing Lovell and James means relying on the new faces to have a greater impact on the team. I have not seen nor spoken to anyone about this team. So, I, like many of you am eager to see the talent of this team. It takes a long time to build chemistry so, as fans, we need to show patience.
Looking at the roster, I see some size which I like and a lot of the new players have track and football backgrounds. They are athletes. Coach Oliver loves to play an uptempo style and preaches turnover and transition baskets. If these guys have the foot speed and technique to play team defense then they should be hard to beat in the conference. Pittman is a tough pg who will only get better. Ellis has the best pure shot I have seen in a while at Albertus. Walters is a long player who finally knows how to control his body and can create for others. Jones is a scoring machine. It will be fun to see them play.
Babson however is a final four team that has a lot of pieces back including an all american and poy candidate. I don't expect this team without any chemistry to beat Babson. But like I said before, it will take at least 10 games to evaluate this team.
Playing well without Mason Jones and Grant Ellis. Need to stay composed and take god shots.
Good first half by falcons shot the ball well. New guys have some confidence; made some mistakes with the ball but like I said they are going to need 10 games.
But where is Grant Ellis and Mason Jones???????
Anyone know
Jones is gonna miss first few games with wrist injury according to new haven register. Not sure about Ellis.
Falcons drop game one 101 to 81. The score is as bad as some people might think. Babson is ranked #3 in the nation. They are coming off back to back deep runs in NCAAs including a final four appearance with the same core; all 5 starters returning. On yhe road with a bunch of new players it was going to be tough to beat them.
Positives
1. Alberus has some young talent. Mitchell, Green-younger, coleman each had a great first half.
2. Albertus ball movement was great.
3. Walters jump shot was more consistent
Things to work on
1. Finding an interior scorer; lovell was that last year.
2. Not having defensive breakdowns; as Babson was getting stops and making baskets; Albertus allowed a lot of easy baskets to stretch the lead
3. Turnovers - Albertus was very sloppy with ball
4. Free throw shooting; has been an issur for a while
I would love to see these two teams play again after the freshmen have played a few games and arguably their two players play in the game. Ellis doesn't play defense but he can shoot and not sure what Jones can do yet but am excited to find out. Hopefully they see the court quickly.
Saints open the season with a 78 - 95 loss to Pine Manor at the Wentworth tip off tournament. Saints aggressive pressing, trapping defense held Pine Manor to 60 points in the first half. Saints were only down by 32 points in the first half and made a heroic effort to keep the difference under 20 by the end of the game. Lots of new players on the team and in the game. Saints came up a bit short on team chemistry giving Pine Manor extra opportunities with 28 turnovers. Pine Manor took advantage scoring 33 points off Saints turnovers. Saints sharp shooters tickled the twine for 36 %.
Wentworth lost their end of the tip off tourney to Emerson, so the consolation game should be a even match up.
Finally have some time to think about the outcome of the game last night.
I was very encouraged in what I saw out of this Falcons team. Babson was a very solid team who late in the second half put on a surge that the inexperienced Falcons could not overcome. They hit some big shots and really stretched out Albertus on the defensive end. When they were able to do so they knocked down shots and in return that momentum allowed them to pick up there defensive intensity as well.
Oliver was working with an extremely short bench and it really showed in the last 10 minutes of the game. This batch of freshman looks extremely promising. Specifically, Jahmerikah Green Younger and Damian Grant. But let's face it; they were simply overmatched in their first collegiate game against a very experienced and disciplined Babson team.
The fact that Oliver played this game without his two best players is very encouraging. I was told that Mason Jones broke his wrist in the early preseason and could be back next week if Oliver chooses to let him play or opts to take another week off and rest him. Grant Ellis was sick and I guess has been battling some type of flu or mono for the last 2 weeks now. When these 2 players return this team could be scary good. The pressure will be take off some of our younger guys and Jaquan Walters will be able to dominate on the inside with Ellis's ability to shoot and Jones ability to do whatever he wants on the floor. It will also allow spacing for guys like Pittman and Coleman who can really knock down shots when given the opportunities.
As the team sits right now, we are hands down the favorite in the GNAC and once we get healthy and have our top talent return and mesh together I really believe that this team could be special this season. Most people will look at this game and see a 20 point loss but they simply won't understand what we were missing from a talent standpoint. I would have loved to play this Babson team in the 2nd half of the season. While they would be a stronger team in the 2nd half as well I really would like our odds against them.
Who knows? Maybe down the road this matchup will come to fruition? You never know!?!?!
Good to hear some of those tidbits. I was reffing the Class S Boys Semi's yesterday so I couldn't keep an eye on it. Saw we lost by 20 but did notice we were up by 6 at half. Noticed Mason Jones didn't play but completely forgot about Ellis! It's obvious our younger guys would be "overmatched" up against such a veteran team but good to hear they competed. Should bode well down the line for this group.
Short bench is right. Only 7 had double digit minutes, and essentially only 6 really PLAYED (Hamilton had 11 minutes). Babson only had 7 as well, but 15 guys got into the game lol
Lildave,
That 15 players for Babson is a bit skewed as their coach emptied the bench with around a minute to go. But yes they definitely had a bit more depth than us on this particular night.
I figured that, wasn't implying they all made significant contributions or anything lol. Was just hitting on the point that he was able to do so
I hear ya Lildave.....Just thought I would let you know
Halftime score from the Wentworth tip off tourney, Saints down 17 - 43. Saints have already missed 28 shot attempts from the floor shooting just 17%, meanwhile Wentworth is scoring at a 52% clip. Lets see what game plan changes get made in the half time locker room. Maybe full court pressing Wentworth and giving up fast break layups was not such a good idea. We could always try a zone?
Sorry for leaving the readers on the edge of your seats with just a halftime report. No surprise at the outcome of this game. Saints lost by 30 to Wentworth, 54 - 84, to start the new season 0 - 2. Saints shooting improved in the second half all the way up to 28%. Saints did not call off their full court press until Wentworth had a comfortable 30 point lead. Wait, shouldn't that be the other way around? Saints can't wait to get back home, all of a few blocks away from the Wentworth campus , to start the GNAC league games, where they actually have a chance to beat somebody.
Yes it is only one week into the new season but the entire GNAC conference is 4 - 23 against outside opponents. I guess recruiting wasn't a priority last year.
Saints play tonight at 6 pm against Curry College. Curry went 0 -25 last year, so i guess tonight's game should be fairly close. If the Saints come out pressing and trapping full court again, Curry could get their first win in nearly a year and a half.
that's a pretty crazy stat Saint!
Albertus faces off against Fitchburg St tonight, an NCAA tournament team from last season who returns an excellent guard in Jaleel Bell. Also, you know the Falcons want this game bad as Fitchburg spoiled Albertus Magnus home winning streak last season which was also the longest home win streak in the country for all divisions.
Should be a good contest and it will be interesting to see if Grant Ellis and Mason Jones play or not!?!?!
Game time is set for 6:00 PM! Video link on the schedule which is always nice to see!
Selfish post.......but since I drafted Green-Younger in the regular season draft league I'm hoping he can average about 13 points and 2 or 3 made 3's a game. Was the second highest scorer against Babson, so a pretty good start to the college career! Hopefully he can keep it up!
7, do you have him for the entire year? His production will go down when Ellis and Jones come back. If you don't have Mason Jones, and he is available, get him. Stud!
This game versus Fitchburg state on the road will be tough. I can see falcons start out 0-2... hopefully they get it done! Go Falcons.
Anyone catch this game? Love seeing 6 people in double figures and getting this win without Jones and Ellis. My Wilby man Damian Grant has been killing it! I was hoping for a Lemar Larsen-esque career but he seems ahead of the curve (granted Lemar had to deal with the likes of Chi, Ray, Darius and Big Vic in his way). Even if he's one of the ones moved to the bench when Jones and Ellis return he'll be nice athletic piece off the bench. Shaq Mitchell also looks much improved from his short stint on the team two years ago.
Falcons back in action tonight; first home game for Albertus this year. They host Suny Old Westbury who went to NCAA last year as the skyline conference champions but are currently 0-3. Not sure who returned from last year. I would think Albertus wins tonight. Hopefully we see either Ellis or Jones tonight; both would be great.
Quote from: falcons2010 on November 29, 2016, 12:16:53 PM
Falcons back in action tonight; first home game for Albertus this year. They host Suny Old Westbury who went to NCAA last year as the skyline conference champions but are currently 0-3. Not sure who returned from last year. I would think Albertus wins tonight. Hopefully we see either Ellis or Jones tonight; both would be great.
Looking forward to seeing Jaleel Bell matchup against some talent that Albertus presents. Ellis should be fun to watch alongside Walters if and when he gets back to full strength.
Game update. With 19 minutes to play in the second half, the Saints getting blown out at home by Mt Ida, 50 - 25. Saints defense looking a lot like Swiss cheese. will give details when final horn sounds.
Mt Ida gets second win of the season with a 92 - 56 thrashing of the Emmanuel Saints on the Saints home court. Mt Ida's foot speed and athleticism was too much for the Saints as the Saint defenders continued to get beat off the dribble all night long. Saints zone defense appeared full of holes as Mt Ida scored 60 of their 92 points in the paint. Saints patented full court press gave Mt Ida uncontested layups and a 22 point halftime lead. Second half was much of the same as the Saints never closed within 25 points of the lead.
Quote from: falcons2010 on November 29, 2016, 12:16:53 PM
Falcons back in action tonight; first home game for Albertus this year. They host Suny Old Westbury who went to NCAA last year as the skyline conference champions but are currently 0-3. Not sure who returned from last year. I would think Albertus wins tonight. Hopefully we see either Ellis or Jones tonight; both would be great.
I know Jamail Stanley was one of the returnee's, averaged something ridiculous like 24 or 25 points per game. You can have a 1 person show like that in the Skyline against crap teams, but I don't think they have secondary or depth scoring to knock out the Falcons.
And also Falcons, yes I do have Green-Younger for the whole year, but I can drop him at any point I believe. Didn't start the game prior to Thanksgiving, but still scored like 11 or 12 points off the bench with a couple 3 pointers. Really, that's all I need from him, he was my last pick and the second to last overall, so really anything more than that is gravy, lol.
Albertus gets the win 83-71 behind a red-hot performance from Devin Coleman. He drained six 3's en route to a game high 29 points.
Any word on Jones and Ellis? It had been a week since the last game and still no sign of them. Now the schedule ramps up (in terms of volume) into the winter break.
Hi Guys,
Been away from the board for a few days because I got logged off of my account on my home computer and could not remember my password for the life of me!
I was at the game last night. It was a bit of a sloppy effort by the Falcons overall. They did not play particularly well but it was still good enough to win against a Westbury team that in my opinion was not very strong. Not to mention, Jamail Stanley did not play in this game. I think he was being disciplined for something because he was in uniform and took part in warm ups but once the game started he was at the end of the bench and did even get up for team huddles at time outs. He looked very disinterested in what was going on.
As for the Falcons, they are still trying to find there way, and with only 3 games played all things considered I think they are doing a damn good job. Again it has been sloppy but we have freshman contributing serious minutes who are still very lost while out on the floor. Somewhat poking there way through the offense trying to get to the right spots on the floor. But as I said I think the freshman that have played really look like players. Green Younger is an outstanding shooter who has more flash and handle to his game then I initially had thought. Damian Grant has the potential to be an All American by the time he graduates. He needs to get stronger with the ball and finish above the rim, not just at the rim. This will come in time as his body thickens out and he grows accustomed to the college games.
Still no Mason Jones or Grant Ellis as of yet. I have a feeling the both of them will be back on Saturday against Johnson and Wales. Jones had the brace off of his wrist last night and Ellis was still in street clothes but he looked healthier this time around. They may even be back on Thursday for our first conference game against Emmanuel.
With a healthy and full sqaud this team by the second half could be very lethal. No one is going to talk about them because we are in the GNAC and lost to Babson by 20 and so on and on and on. Who cares! I think this team could be the most balanced we have ever had once we get everybody back.
Not to mention what I heard in the stands last night. Oliver has a kid coming in for the 2nd half of the season who will totally transform this team even more. Supposedly a 6'10 PF/C is joining the team for the second half. I am not sure if the guy that was talking about him is an alumnus of Albertus or contributes to the athletics program at all but the way he was talking about it I would consider it to be a very reliable source. He described him as a freak athlete who has the ability to change the game at both ends of the floor. Can't wait to see what happends with this team. Should be a fun and exciting year.
7Express - Pick up Mason Jones right away before somebody else does. Trust me on this! He will be a household name by the end of the season. Broken wrist in preseason has sidelined him to this date. JUCO All American who from what I am hearing may be the best scorer that Oliver has ever had at Albertus.
Also,
I don't want to look ahead of Emmanuel on Thursday but I cant wait for Saturdays game with JWU. I really hope Jones and Ellis are back. Last year JWU and Coach Benton in their first matchup of the season really ran it up on the Falcons. This is hands down the biggest rivalry in the GNAC. It really goes without saying and there have been some heated exchanges over the years between players and at times even a few interesting exchanges between Coach Oliver and Coach Benton. And let me also say that I am totally not that guy who thinks everyone should get a trophy and all that crap. I think if a team is winning big and the Coach wants to keep guys in to work on things and what not then thats fine by me. But Benton and the Wildcats last year blatantly ran up the score. Putting up dunks on the fast break, shooting 3's from long distance and so on. Not pulling his starters until a minute left to play and when Senior Tom Garrick almost hurt himself with over 3 minutes to play.
But what I will tell Coach Benton is be careful what you wish for. Oliver has always slowed the game down and controls his teams when they were up well into the double digits with more than enough time left in the game. I understand emotions were high and I'm sure Benton and JWU were sick and tired of being second fiddle to the Falcons for the last 5 years but I guarantee you that Oliver and the returners back on this team did not forget about this game.
If Jones and Ellis are playing it could be very ugly for the 0-3 Wildcats.
It is really possible that this is the worst defensive team that Emmanuel has put on the court in the last ten years. Giving up 92 points at home to Mt Ida, that offensive juggernaut who only won 6 conference games last year, is not a confidence builder going into the Albertus game. If Mt Ida can score 60 points in the paint what is an athletic team like Albertus going to do ? This could be another 50 point loss that Emmanuel is famous for. Let's see if the Saints come out full court pressing Albertus?
Junkie,
I'm in the mold of once you get to college, high school, hell maybe even middle school sports let them play. If you don't want guys dunking in a 40 point game, don't take bad shots which lead to long rebounds and outlets and get back on D. If you don't want the opponent dancing in your end zone for the 10th time stop them and keep them out of the end zone. I know, I'm a scrooge, LOL.
I hope both Ellis and Jones play tonight to get them some game action before the JWU matchup. Give the team a chance to get used to them being out there. JWU is still good enough where a disruption in chemistry could cost us on the road.
Quote from: 7express on November 30, 2016, 11:52:09 PM
Junkie,
I'm in the mold of once you get to college, high school, hell maybe even middle school sports let them play. If you don't want guys dunking in a 40 point game, don't take bad shots which lead to long rebounds and outlets and get back on D. If you don't want the opponent dancing in your end zone for the 10th time stop them and keep them out of the end zone. I know, I'm a scrooge, LOL.
Beleive Me 7 I am right there with you in this thinking but there comes a point in every game where it simply goes to far. When your point is made and the thrashing is over. I just brought it up because again I know Oliver and the returning players have not forgotten about this game. I know it will be in the back of their heads.
Congrats to Ana Maria on their first win of the year. A very young squad, with high potential in the coming years! Freshman Mike Rapoza continues to put up numbers as he lead the way with 24&20. Kid is a force on the block and is on pace for some staggering double double records.
Really interesting game last night between the Falcons and the Saints.
To recap quickly, the Saints came out of the gate hot and actually played quite well until Albertus went on a monstrous run that allowed them to take a 20 point lead into the half. It looked like this one was clearly over as the Falcons were dialed in from long range and had a relatively easy time breaking the pressure throughout the 1st half that Emmanuel tried to apply.
However once the 2nd half started it was a complete 360 degree turnaround for the Falcons. They came out extremely flat and allowed the Saints to get right back into the game. Getting as close as 4 points if I recall. They turned the ball over, did not get back on defense and gave up a ton of offensive rebounds in critical situations when the Saints were going on there run. Not to mention the turnovers from the Emmanuel press and the poor free throw shooting. Ultimately we finished the game on a run of our own and closed it out in what looks to be convincing fashion on the scoreboard, but if you were there live, there was nothing convincing about it.
I was a little bit concerned about the 2nd half play but we also need to remember that this young team in the early season is still finding their way. They jumped out to that big lead and I think they all thought they were just going to coast through the 2nd half. Young teams don't necessarily know how to go for the "juggler" if you will and shut the door on your opponent. Instead, they let them back into the game and a better team perhaps would have capitalized even more on the numerous second half mistakes.
Update on Grant Ellis and Mason Jones. Ellis was still in a sweat suite so I have no idea at this point on when his possible return may be. Mason Jones was in full uniform for the first time this season and looked like he was ready to play. Obviously he did not but I have a feeling he is going to be back very soon. I have to say to the naked eye, Grant Ellis looks perfectly fine? Im puzzled because he doesn't appear to have a physical injury. Unless whatever sickness he may have had really wiped him out or something?
In my opinion we could see Jones play on Saturday up at Johnson and Wales. As for Ellis, at this point I have no idea on when he is going to return.
thanks very much for the recap of the Saints game with Albertus. I did not see the game and only looked at the box score. The Saints appear to have a bad habit this year of giving up a lot of points in the first half of games and then trying to dig themselves out of a hole. Once the other team has a big lead and puts all their subs into the game, then the Saints start their comeback. The other thing that I really noticed about this years Saints team is that they over compensate their help defense in the lane and give up a lot of open 3 point shots out on the perimeter. Good 3 point shooting teams are going to give the Saints trouble this year.
Final score Lasell 77 - Emmanuel 67. This was a back and forth game of mini runs, with 11 ties and lead changes. After dominating the first 8 minutes of the game Lasell looked frustrated when Emmanuel used their wild, out of control fast break style of play to get back into the game and take a brief lead with two minutes left in the first half. Lasell got caught up in the Emmanuel running game, taking a lot of off balance, forced shots, early in the shot clock. The game continued that way until, with about 5 minutes left in the game the Lasell coach called timeouts on two consecutive possessions to slow things down and run a deliberate play. The coaching strategy worked and Lasell was able to turn an 8 point deficit into a 10 point lead over the last 5 minutes of the game, an 18 point swing in favor of Lasell.
The strange thing about this game was Emmanuel did not use their patented full court press against Lasell. They use it against everyone else but not against the one team that does not have a true point guard. It looked like Lasell was using their shooting guard to bring the ball upcourt, and run their offense. The one game Emmaneul should have pressed they did not. They allowed Lasell's shooting guard to bring the ball upcourt without pressure.
Disappointing loss on the road this past Saturday for the Falcons as they fell to Johnson and Wales 75-70 in OT.
I was not able to attend the game nor did I catch the webcast but just quickly glancing at the box score it looks like the Falcons came out of the gate flat. They went on a run and did a nice coming all the way back from 20 down to tie the game up late in the 2nd half but once again faded in overtime. To the eye this team has been struggling to find their identity on the offense end of the court. We are starting to really see the inexperience that we were all concerned about in the beginning of the season.
Still no Mason Jones or Grant Ellis, I think we can all agree that the season is long and its certainly about how you finish not how you start. However, locking up home court advantage in the GNAC tourney is crucial. Hopefully with another 3 games slated for this week we will see at least 1 or hopefully both return to action.
Still very excited to see how we finish out the year and what the new year will bring for this team.
MIT is playing back to back GNAC teams, Lasell on Monday, and Emmanuel on Tuesday night. That is a very strange schedule, unless it is a typo. I guess the MIT coach has no fear of playing the Saints on one days rest with no game prep. MIT probably has to fit the Saints game into their schedule before exams and doesn't mind playing them even without any rest. Anything to keep the Saints on the schedule. Let's see if fatigue is a factor in the game.
Hey Guys,
I agree with your assessment Junkie, it's a long season and how a team plays at the end of the year is most crucial; especially in a one bid league like the GNAC. This team is a good not great team. They have the talent to finish in the top 4. They need to work on shot selection, finishing around the basket, playing better team defense, and of course free throw shooting. You never want to lose to your rivals but losing to them in December on the road in overtime isn't the worst loat.
Now...... I would like to see what this team is when Ellis and Jones finally play. Having good players is nice hut if they don't play it is useless. I have seen Ellis and love his shooting ability although he doesn't do much else in terms of creating or defense. From what I hear about Jones he is a scorer and plays strong defense. These two guys help the team in two big ways. 1. They are experienced and have played at higher levels. In a close game they should be able to use that experiencenor to make a play to stop a run without needing to use a timeout.2. They creat a second until that will be able to stretch leads. With their return and maybe a recruit, you have guys like pittman, green younger, mitchell, and grant as the second unit. These guys can score and could turn a 4 point lead into a double digit lead.
At this point, I don't expect to see Jones until after the break and I gotta think that there is another issue with Ellis. Maybe eligibility or discipline.
Falcons2010
With regards to Ellis, I really dont think it is an eligibility issue. I suppose it could be a discipline thing but I have heard from multiple people at the games that he had mono which I know could be hard to recover from. I never experienced that personally but it does drain you both physically and mentally
We'll hopefully he gets better. I would be interested to know if he is practicing; gives us an idea of his likelihood of returning soon.
Just watched the MIT - Lasell game with MIT winning 57 - 45 . This score is very misleading. Lasell was winning most of the game, holding a 3 point lead with 2 minutes to play when MIT went on a 10 - 0 run to ice the game. MIT looked to have a slight size advantage but Lasell looked a step quicker, so it was mostly an even game. MIT did not dominate this game as one might have expected, Lasell was very competitive.
Emmanuel just might have a chance to be in the game on Tuesday night because MIT is not as strong as in the past. MIT attempts a lot of 3 point shots which is not good news for Emmanuel, because the Saints defense gives up a lot of wide open threes. Emmanuel's style of play, wild fast breaks up and down the court may give MIT trouble on the second night of back to back games. We shall see.
Falcons take on Newbury College tonight 7PM at the Nest. Newbury has yet to win a game this season. I like the Falcons in this one. I think they will respond well after the disappointing loss on Saturday at Johnson and Wales.
I like the Falcons in this one big!
Falcons in total control at the half over Newbury
67-30
Well, that answers the question of why MIT was not afraid to schedule Emmanuel as the second team of back to back games. Saints get crushed by MIT, 50 - 89. This one was over early, with the Engineers holding a 33 - 13 advantage with 10 minutes gone in the first half. Saints tried to confuse MIT with their fast break, wild shot selection, game style, but MIT ran a very controlled, methodical, offense and knocked down many wide open threes. At one point in the first half the MIT announcer called the Emmanuel fast break a " frantic paced " offense. I like that descriptive phrase of the Emmanuel offensive system and will have to " borrow " it for future posts. Saints used another new starting line up again tonight, but the same old result. Saints leading scorer was held to zero points by the smothering MIT man to man defense.
I nominate Saint-Paul for the new Emmanuel head coach!
Falcons handled Newbury with ease last night.......Final score Falcons 112 Newbury 67
Not much to say about this one as the Falcons dominated the game all night long.
Mitchell College comes to town on Thursday for what has turned in to a very nice little in state rivalry between these two teams. Both coaches have a ton of respect for each other and its nice to see this game happen every year. Falcons have dominated Mitchell over the last few seasons but Mitchell always tends to play us hard. Should be a good contest
Quote from: 7express on December 06, 2016, 09:51:54 PM
I nominate Saint-Paul for the new Emmanuel head coach!
I second this motion! ;D
I was thinking today about the game last night and what it says about the state of the men's basketball program at Emmanuel, and about how other schools and other coaches view the Saints program. MIT schedules the Saints as the second team of back to back games, plays them with no rest, no game prep, beats them by 40 points, and then shakes hands and wishes them a Merry Christmas. I hope the Emmanuel AD was at the game last night and saw what other coaches around the league see as obvious.
Mitchell is 0-4 on the young season against some very sub par competition. Overall talent and experience will win out in this game. Much like the Newbury game, I like the Falcons in this one big!
Looking ahead a little to next Saturday when the Falcons take on New Jersey City, who is currently recieving votes in the D3Hoops Top 25. This should be an excellent contest between to very good programs who have a lot of similarities in the way they play the game. I am starting to think we wont see Mason Jones until the second half of the season but something tells me that he is really going to want to play in this game. Being from New Jersey and all I am sure he will have some family and friends at that game so it will be interesting to see if he is able to play or not
Wowwwww!!!
Mason Jones ladies and gentleman. This young man just threw down the best dunk I have ever seen at the Nest and one of the best dunks I have seen at the D3 level. The rumors were 100% accurate haha. Small sample size but so far he is one of the best athletes I have seen at Albertus. And that truly is saying a lot.
I hope 7Express took our advice and scooped this kid up. Unbeleivable player who not only can get to the basket at will but he also has drained two 3 pointers already
Albertus is up 56 to 41 at the half
Just comes back and casually drops 23
D3 you remember around when the dunk was? Obviously first half are some point...
It was in the opening minutes Lildave. I wanna seenthe 6th or 8th point of the game for the Falcons. It was very early
https://twitter.com/AMCAthletics/status/807025549218643969 (https://twitter.com/AMCAthletics/status/807025549218643969)
There's a tweet with the dunk. Kid has hops indeed but I remember Sledge putting people on a poster or 2 haha
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on December 08, 2016, 07:55:10 PM
Wowwwww!!!
Mason Jones ladies and gentleman. This young man just threw down the best dunk I have ever seen at the Nest and one of the best dunks I have seen at the D3 level. The rumors were 100% accurate haha. Small sample size but so far he is one of the best athletes I have seen at Albertus. And that truly is saying a lot.
I hope 7Express took our advice and scooped this kid up. Unbeleivable player who not only can get to the basket at will but he also has drained two 3 pointers already
Albertus is up 56 to 41 at the half
Shhh!!!!!!! They are only playing 1 game after Saturday before New Years, so wasn't picking him up now, but was going to get I'm when the new year started. Please don't ruin his secret potential for me Junkie, thanks!
Sorry 7 hahaha.......I don't want to spoil him for you. Hopefully nobody else scoops him up! If so he has all of next year to for eligibility too!
Good to see Jones.. now let's get Ellis back. I would like to see them after 10 games together.
Impressive dunk by Jones. I wasn't at nest last night. But best dunk I saw was Sledge jumping over a guard.. it might have been versus JWU.. it was incredible.
That Sledge dunk was in fact against Johnson and Wales. He soared over Rob Lewis I beleive. That was an outstanding dunk no doubt but this one by Jones had so much flare and showed off show much athleticism between the extension and everything else. It was sensational. Even better in person!
Suffolk comes to town today. I think this game will be pretty competitive. Suffolk has always been a program that plays us strong. Being at home, Jones and the rest of the team are slowly beginning to gel more and more. I like the Falcons in this one 87-71 with the Falcons pulling away late in the second half.
Saints are off until a New Years tournament. Saints played 7 games in the first semester, lost 6, got blown out 5 times, gave up over 89 points 4 times. Their lone win came against 0 - 25 Curry College, and Curry was winning that game for 39 minutes, and 58 seconds. It took a miracle shot from 30 feet in the last 2 seconds to save the Saints from losing to a team that didn't win a game last year. What to look forward to in the New year ? At least 4 competitive games with Norwich and Rivier ?
I know most of us said second semester for Grant Ellis but traveling to his home state on Saturday. I say he suites up and plays. Time will tell!
Working on getting the name of the new PF/C that we will have for the second half of the season. As I have mentioned already on here rumor has it that he is 6'10 with freakish athletic ability. Not as polished of an offensive player as Big Vic was but a defensive game changer who still has enough offensive skill to put up double double numbers nightly at the D3 level.
Fall semester is now over for the falcons. I give them a C grade; mostly because I haven't seen the team at 100% yet. I like what I have seen from coleman, green-younger, and shaq Mitchell so far. I think Grant will develop into a really fine player. He needs to hit the weight room and be mor aggressive around the goal. I expected to see pittman more developed; but he hasn't yet. He is still making freshmen mistakes. He has ability, he just needs to run the offense more confidently. You know what you get from walters, you can live with some of his wild shots because he plays hard and can score.
I haven't been super impressed with Jones, but I am chalking that up to his injury. He has not shot the ball well the last few games. I really think there was something else going on with Ellis, hopefully he is back after the break. Does anyone know what happened to Green-Younger? Hasn't played last 2 games.
If Ellis and Jones play to what we believe they can. And if Mitch brings in a mid year stud. And coleman, green-younger, and mitchell play at their levels. And walters plays to his numbers. Then the Falcons should be playing in GNAC championship game. Let's see what happens.. Either way, we will be along for the ride. Merry Christmas
Falcons2010,
I completely agree with your assessment on the first half of the season. I am hopeful that this team and specifically Ellis and Jones will be able to come together in the second half after a first half riddled with injuries and relying a lot on youth to get us through games.
Jones has not played well at all since his debut. I think you are correct; the injury is a big factor in this. I also think that he needs to take a second and reflect on his role. He should be the primary go to guy no doubt, but he still needs to play within the offense and get his teammates involved. He needs to share the ball and be more proactive in getting others to contribute. Within Oliver's offense sets he is going to have plenty of opportunities to score the ball. He is pressing a little right now when really he doesn't need to. He seems like a high IQ player. I think he will improve on this.
I also think Oliver is really going to get a feel once everyone is healthy for what he has here this year. So far, it has been hard for him to see what rotations work best and which guys gel most out on the court together. I think we will see from Oliver's standpoint a better understanding of the true makeup of this team in the second half. You look at guys like Eian Davis and Big Vic, what we have to remember is that these two stars transferred in from the same program and were already so used to playing with each other. This is simply not the case with this year's team. A ton of talent no doubt with plenty of scorers but can they play together and beat experienced teams is the real question we will have to find out going forward.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all
Emmanuel takes their traveling basketball circus south to the mid atlantic region for a New Years tournament at Mary Washington University in Virginia. I am sure that the mid atlantic teams have never seen anything like the show the Saints are going to put on. The Saints wild, " shoot first, run plays later ", up and down tempo is going to take these tournament teams by surprise. MWU probably runs a very deliberate, patterned offense, and could get flustered when the Saints start turning the game into a saturday morning ymca pick up game. Should be fun to watch how these mid atlantic teams respond to the Saints style of play. Probably with a lot of wide open three's.
QuoteMWU probably runs a very deliberate, patterned offense, and could get flustered when the Saints start turning the game into a saturday morning ymca pick up game.
hahaha now that's funny ;D ;D ;D
Saints start the new year the same way they ended the old year, getting hammered by Mary Washington 76 - 57. Perhaps they should have scheduled Martha Washington instead. Saints tried to surprise MWU with a new starting lineup, all guards, no big men on the court. I guess this was suppose to help the Saints outside shooting. Well, it's back to the drawing board, Saints shot 29% for the game, and to compound the strategy gave up 56 rebounds to MWU. This game was over early, with MWU taking a 33 - 19 halftime lead, and pushing it up to 24 points mid way through the second half. I guess MWU was not caught by surprise with this game plan since the Saints actually did use 7 different starting lineups in their 7 first semester games. Well, that's why these tournaments have consolation games.
So I was able to add Mason Jones to my fantasy team as he was still on the waiver wire when I scooped him up. Hopefully he doesn't disappoint, but usually when I draft someone they turn to crap, so apologies in advance! ;D
Saints get crushed by McDaniel, 77 - 48 in the consolation game of the MWU tournament. Saints stick with their small lineup starting all guards and small forwards. The game plan worked because the Saints shooting percentage moved all the way up from 29 to 31% for the game. The five Emmanuel starters combined for 10 points in the whole game. That is not a typo, TEN points. While the
Saints were playing small ball, McDaniel was scoring at will, inside, outside, transition, it didn't matter. It's a long drive from Boston to Virginia just to get to get blown out twice. The Saints could have gotten blown out closer to home and skipped the long drive.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on January 03, 2017, 07:06:48 PM
Saints get crushed by McDaniel, 77 - 48 in the consolation game of the MWU tournament. Saints stick with their small lineup starting all guards and small forwards. The game plan worked because the Saints shooting percentage moved all the way up from 29 to 31% for the game. The five Emmanuel starters combined for 10 points in the whole game. That is not a typo, TEN points. While the
Saints were playing small ball, McDaniel was scoring at will, inside, outside, transition, it didn't matter. It's a long drive from Boston to Virginia just to get to get blown out twice. The Saints could have gotten blown out closer to home and skipped the long drive.
You wish that was a consolation game. LOL I had the "pleasure" of calling that game. Sorry for the tech challenges with the stream - our computer simply wasn't cooperating today.
To be honest, that was an ugly game and I was surprised by how much Emmanuel struggled. McDaniel isn't that great this season and they didn't look that good despite scoring at will. The Saints went about 10 minutes without scoring a single basket/point. Saints also would come down, shoot, miss, and go back on defense. Plenty of times shooting early in the shot clock. Played a better second half, but by the time they woke up the game was already 30 points and out of hand.
Any word on the mid year guys for the falcons? I know classes don't start until middle of month, so there is still time.
The 1 - 8 Saints return home from Virginia to face the 2 - 8 Suffolk Rams tonight. This game should be a toss up. Whoever shoots better than 29% should win this game. Saints are glad to get back to the GNAC where they might actually have a chance to beat somebody. Their adventure into the mid Atlantic region was a disaster, shooting 29 and 31 % in two games and giving up 100 rebounds in the two game tournament. Saints are better off just staying home and taking their pounding from local teams.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on January 05, 2017, 09:54:05 AM
The 1 - 8 Saints return home from Virginia to face the 2 - 8 Suffolk Rams tonight. This game should be a toss up. Whoever shoots better than 29% should win this game. Saints are glad to get back to the GNAC where they might actually have a chance to beat somebody. Their adventure into the mid Atlantic region was a disaster, shooting 29 and 31 % in two games and giving up 100 rebounds in the two game tournament. Saints are better off just staying home and taking their pounding from local teams.
You know the second game was in Maryland, right? They did not participate in a tournament down at Mary Washington. They played at UMW one night and at McDaniel (Westminster, Md.) the second night.
And most coaches will tell you... to improve as a team and as a program, you have to go out an improve the quality of teams you play and the opponents. You can't just sit at home and wonder why your program is stagnant. You may take your lumps, but there are countless examples of teams that have improved greatly when they stopped playing easy opponents.
Saint - good luck this evenings.
Falcons win, Ellis returns but it looked like a lot of guys were missing. Jones and Green-younger didn't play.. but I think only 9 guys maybe 10 were on bench. Unless they didn't want to take the entire team to Norwich; something is wrong. This means trouble for the falcons.
Saints and Rams played a fairly even game tonight with Suffolk coming out on top 80 - 69. Both teams came out playing zone defenses, clogging the lanes, and daring the other team to take outside shots. The game went back and forth for 36 minutes until Suffolk put together a couple of stops and grabbed an 8 point lead with 3 minutes to play. Suffolk showed some good clock management at the end of the game and ran very deliberate plays until they got a few good looks at the end of the shot clock. Rams guards showed a good understanding of time and score. Two steals by the Saints guards in the final minute kept the score close, but Suffolk ended up making free throws to ice the win. Saints shot 36 % for the game, but Suffolk shot 52%. Other than that a fairly even game.
Heartbreak City for Emmanuel. Saints turn a 10 point halftime lead into a two point heart breaking loss to St Joe, 85 - 83. Saints led the game for 39 min, 32 seconds. St Joe hit a jump shot with 28 seconds left to take a one point lead. Saints in bounded the ball quickly and pushed up court. Saints point guard faked a pass to the wing, caught his defender sleeping, and drove to the basket for an uncontested layup. Before he could release the ball the Emmanuel coach called time out. Officials ruled no basket. On the ensuing inbounds play the Saints guard got striped of the ball and St Joe headed down court. Saints were forced to foul. St Joe missed the first free throw. Saints threw the ball downcourt and hit a foul line jumper to take a one point lead with 6 seconds. St Joe threw the ball right back down the court and hit a 3 with 1 second remaining to win the game.
Many opportunities for the Saints to win this game. Nursing a 7 point lead with three minutes to play the Saints did not show good clock management. They took quick shots, not from the result of running any play, did not run the shot clock down, did not get to the foul line. This was the point were they could have used a time out to settle them down.
Inspite of the outcome this was still a very interesting game to watch. Two contrasting styles of play. Saints played a tight zone all game, while St Joe played straight man to man the whole game. Saints had their best offensive game of the year shooting 42% from the field. St Joe matched them shot for shot, shooting 52 % from the field. St Joe is a fun team to watch. They are not big, not quick, not athletic, but they run their sets with precision, really move the ball, and see every open man. Their passing is the best i have seen in the GNAC. They are just not big and strong enough to keep opponents out of the paint. Overall a good college basketball game.
Tonights game between the 1 - 10 Emmanuel Saints and the 2 - 10 Anna Maria Amcats is another one of those GNAC toss up games. This is a very even game. Neither team has a high shooting percentage, or a dominate big man. Anna Maria runs their sets a little bit better, but Emmanuel might be a little more athletic, with slightly better foot speed. This game will be so close it may go into overtime.
Well, perhaps predicting an overtime game was a tad premature. Saints defense took the night off and gave up another 90 point game, this time to Anna Maria. Saints got crushed 90 - 67. This game was close for about 12 minutes and then the Amcats put the game away with a 19 point run just before half. Saints shot 35% for the game while the Amcats shot 58% for the game. Saints gave up 46 points in the paint to the Amcats who don't really have a dominate post player. Amcats get their third win of the season. Emmanuel is still winless against GNAC teams.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on January 10, 2017, 11:46:24 PM
Well, perhaps predicting an overtime game was a tad premature. Saints defense took the night off and gave up another 90 point game, this time to Anna Maria. Saints got crushed 90 - 67. This game was close for about 12 minutes and then the Amcats put the game away with a 19 point run just before half. Saints shot 35% for the game while the Amcats shot 58% for the game. Saints gave up 46 points in the paint to the Amcats who don't really have a dominate post player. Amcats get their third win of the season. Emmanuel is still winless against GNAC teams.
I wouldn't say that the AMCATS lack a post player -- Mike Rapoza has 10 doubles doubles on the year.
Any word on Jones or Ellis? I know Ellis was playing but didn't yesterday, and Jones has been MIA since the break.
I haven't heard anything about snyone. And Albertus doesn't update rosters or provides any information via releases. I think Jones is gone. Ellis might have gotten hurt. No word on mid years; they would play next game if there were any.
Today's game between Emmanuel and Rivier features a combined total of 3 wins and 25 losses. Let's hope these two teams can play for forty minutes without hurting each other! This game should consist of lots of fouls and turnovers. Somebody has to win.
Quote from: lildave678 on January 15, 2017, 03:25:46 PM
Any word on Jones or Ellis? I know Ellis was playing but didn't yesterday, and Jones has been MIA since the break.
Hey Guys, been away from the board for a while but I am back now!
I was at the game on Saturday vs St. Joes. I was told that Grant Ellis missed shoot around which is why Oliver sat him for the entire game and Devin Coleman was late for it which is why he didn't start.
As for Mason Jones, it appears as though he re-injured the same wrist that caused him to miss essentially the entire first half of the season. I am not sure if he will be back or not this year but my guess is no. You could tell he was not 100%. Sure he came out in the first game and impressed us all quite a bit but after that his next 2 games were a struggle and during that span you could clearly tell that he was still feeling the effects of his injury.
As for midseason transfers, I am still holding onto hope that the big guy we have all heard about will be on the roster soon! Its still very possible to get guys. Whether or not Oliver lets them play and get into the rotation is another question because I really feel like this team is beginning to hit their stride a bit as we get into the deep part of conference play.
Content on albertusfalcons.com has been very slow as of late and I noticed that there SID wasn't there on Saturday so I think he may have gotten a job somewhere else or just left the program. Unfortunately the team lost a couple players from the first half, most likely due to grades but the flipside of this is that the players we did lose weren't any of importance in terms of their production on the court. Still sad to see but we must move on. Reason why I say this is because normally they are pretty quick about removing players off the roster who are no longer there but in this case these guys are still on the team website.
BIG GAME tonight against Lasell! Winners takes over sole possession of first place in the GNAC
7:00PM at the Nest. Albertus 91 Lasell 79. Mark it down!
Outstanding game yesterday between Albertus and Lasell.
I watched the majority of it on the computer. It was a back and forth effort by both teams all night and looked like late in the game that Lasell was going to pull off the huge upset. But Grant Ellis was fouled on the 3 point line with less than a second left down by 2. He calmly made all three which resulted in the Falcon victory. I wish I was there as I am sure I am missing a lot of the details that went into this game. But from what I saw, it was a hard fought victory.
Albertus moves into sole possession of first place in the GNAC! This game at Lasell in a couple weeks is going to be very interesting to say the least.
Thanks for the update Junkie..Good win for the falcons last night. They didn't have their best offensive night but played good defense and were aggressive causing Lasell to have foul issues. Even though Lasell lost, I think they are the team to beat in the GNAC. There were a few whistles and non calls that went Albertus's way last night. Not the Ellis play, that was a lefit foul. However, not sure if Falcons get some calls if the game was in Massachusetts. Lasell has a legit bif man and teo strong guards. They have no one who can defend walters but they play solid perimeter defense. They scare me the most heading into the 2nd half of league play.
Albertus has a solid rotation right now. I think they can get production from a lotnof different areas. I would like to see the guards play defense with more intensity and box out more. I think this team csn earn a number 1 seed and they are still improving.
Let's keep the winning ways.
I am working on finding out the name of the big that was suppose to come in for the second half of the season. I mentioned earlier that I heard rumors of him still coming despite not being here for the first couple games of the second half. We shall see!
Falcons2010......Were you at the game last night?
Two polar opposites in last night's game, Emmanuel at 3 - 13 and Wesleyan at 13 - 3. The Saints got crushed by the Cards 80 - 50. Every time the Saints play a team with an above 0.500 record they are never in the game, and usually give up 80 or 90 points. This game was over early. With 8 minutes to go in the first half the Cards were already up by 20 points. The rest of the game was played just to fill out the box score. Saints played a tight zone but it didn't appear to make any difference, the Cards were able to score inside at will. The Saints dusted off their full court trapping press for this game ( they have not been using it in a while ), and the Cards immediately responded by getting some easy baskets in transition. Every time the Cards would score an uncontested layup, the Cards announcer would say " it can't be this easy " . Well guess what, it was that easy. Saints shot 22% for the game ( 17 - 75 ). How does a serious college team shoot 22% ? You would think they could throw more shots in by accident than that. Saints will be glad to get back to the friendly GNAC for the rest of their games.
Hats off to Coach Oliver on his 200th career victory this past Saturday against Anna Maria!
What an accomplishment! His tremendous run at Albertus continues on! We are lucky to have him. Hopefully there are hundreds and hundreds more to come!
I watched the game on the computer on Saturday against Anna Maria and I'm not going to say anything about the game itself!
Only thing I want to point out is that during warm ups I saw a kid that was every bit of 6'9 taking layups and dunking all over the place. He looked like an absolute freak of an athlete. I saw him next to Liam Perryman who is our tallest player also at 6'9 and he was just as tall. I think its safe to say that the big man we have been hearing about has arrived!
Hoping that Albertus updates there roster sometime soon. They usually do that around this time a year. I know there is a new SID at the school now so maybe there just getting used to their new job. Either way lets hope it happens soon! I want a name!
WOW! Ask and you shall receive!
#2 Aaron Fox from Jamaica Queens NY. A 6'9 Freshman!?!?! Everything I heard was that he was a JUCO player. Perhaps he never actually played? It will be interesting to see him in person on Wednesday night. Wondering how long Oliver will wait to insert him into a game
Coach Oliver and Coach Benton both reached the 200 win mark this month. A sign of longevity and success. Coach Jackson is also approaching a milestone of his own this month. In just four more games he will reach the 200 loss mark for his career. Not exactly the same milestone as the other two coaches but a milestone none the less.
Yeah he didn't play yesterday. Perhaps he holds him out Saturday and unleashes him on JWU next Wednesday lol
Can't find anything on Google in a quick search. Only guy that comes up is De'Aaron Fox from Kentucky!
Same thing happened to me to Lildave when I tried to look him up!
But I agree with you, I think he plays next week. Getting to be crunch time and although the Falcons struggled shooting it a bit last night, this team seems to be coming together at just the right time. Hopefully they can keep it going into Saturday up at St. Joes. This has always been an extremely tough place for the Falcons (and most GNAC teams for that matter) to travel to and play well at.
Lets Go Falcons!
Hey guys, I am not sure that the fox kid is the JUCO Mitch was going after. Hopefully it is, but my gut says otherwise.
Saints crush Rivier today, 76 - 49. Thank goodness for the bottom of the GNAC. These two teams combine for 5 total wins this year. Saints only have four wins this year and two of them come at the expense of Rivier. Saints commit 22 turnovers, shoot 0 % ( 0 -14 ) from the three point arc, and still win by 27 points. First time in a long time Saints are not on the receiving end of a 30 point differential. Too bad these two teams can't play each other more often.
Disappointing loss on Saturday for the Falcons up at St. Joes Maine. As I mentioned in an earlier post, that has always been a tough place for the Falcons to go on the road and win at. But overall they are still in a good position right now in the conference standings.
Also, seniors Devin Coleman and Shaq Mitchell as well as freshman Damian Grant did not play. I think if the 3 of them play we probably come out on top in this game.
I dont know why they didnt play but I know there is a stomach bug going around. Lets hope thats all it was!
Junkie, you are right. Always a tough place to play and always a well prepared team. Most year, if you say Albertus scored 90, it's an automatic ein. I think missing Coleman, Mitchell and Grant hurt them defensively. I feel as if this team still hasn't gelled; mostly because of inconsistency with line up and rotation. I am hoping they put it together as we get into February.
J&W coming in next. Falcons looking to avenge lost in Providence.
Saints, congrats on the win.
I couldn't agree more Falcons2010. Although other than Damien Grant, Coleman and Mitchell aren't exactly known for their defense. Both guys being double digit scorers in a 5 point differential game, you have to think that the Falcons would have had a stronger shot at pulling that game off. Grant Ellis absolutely lit the nets on fire in the 1st half with 25 point and finished the game with 39! This was due to the fact that there was no Coleman and Mitchell. He simply had to do too much and even though JQ Walters was an assist away from a triple double, believe it or not he did not have one of his better games from a FG% standpoint.
I agree this team hasn't really had a chance to gel. I thought they were getting better dating even back to last week but a few guys missed time again and it was back to square one. Between injuries and guys missing time for various other reasons it has certainly been a tough year for Oliver to manage his rotations but overall we are still in 1st place and still without a doubt the team to beat in the GNAC. Home court advantage is so important in the GNAC tournament. Let hope the Falcons finish off the regular season strong and secure the #1 seed. If this happens I think our road to the NCAA tournament becomes drastically easier.
JWU comes in to town tomorrow night. Earlier in the year we lost a close game in overtime at the Wildcat Center. On that day we had no Grant Ellis plus the team was really just getting a feel for each other at the time. I think we make a bounce back statement tomorrow night after the tough setback on Saturday. Falcons win this game by 12 points. And I am also predicting that this will be the debut game for Aaron Fox. I found out that this was the kid that we thought was the "JUCO" player. It is my understanding that he was committed to going the JUCO route after high school but never actually followed through with it. So thankfully we get 4 year of eligibility from him. I have heard unbelievable things about his game. And again tomorrow night we will hopefully see what he is made of!
Quote from: 7express on January 03, 2017, 10:03:40 AM
So I was able to add Mason Jones to my fantasy team as he was still on the waiver wire when I scooped him up. Hopefully he doesn't disappoint, but usually when I draft someone they turn to crap, so apologies in advance! ;D
I'm a prophet! Whatever happened to him anyways, hasn't appeared in a boxscore in a while I don't think?? Injured again, or did he get removed from the team??
Quote from: 7express on January 31, 2017, 10:02:52 AM
Quote from: 7express on January 03, 2017, 10:03:40 AM
So I was able to add Mason Jones to my fantasy team as he was still on the waiver wire when I scooped him up. Hopefully he doesn't disappoint, but usually when I draft someone they turn to crap, so apologies in advance! ;D
I'm a prophet! Whatever happened to him anyways, hasn't appeared in a boxscore in a while I don't think?? Injured again, or did he get removed from the team??
HAHAHA.....I forgot all about this 7
Mason Jones re-injured his wrist that was broken in the preseason and Coach Oliver decided to sit him for the year. To much of a risk to try and rush him back. So unfortunately we will not be seeing Mason Jones again until next season!!!
How does the fanstasy league scoring work for you guys 7??
Does it go by categories? If so Jaquan Walters would be an excellent pickup. He is a lock for a double double almost every night and he gets assists as well. He was 1 assist shy of a triple double the other night! From a pure scoring standpoint Grant Ellis would be a nice pick up too.
And if you need an interior player I will let you know after tomorrow night how Aaron Fox looks. It will be his first game and expectations are extremely high for him!
I don't know the exact formula. It's something like total points + total rebounds + total assists + total steals + total blocks + made 3 pointers - free throws - turnovers.
I have BOTH Ellis & Walters on my team Junkie. I picked up Ellis when I saw Jones wasn't playing, so I dumped Jones for Ellis, and I picked Walters up after the Christmas holiday when someone in the league dropped him. Only problem is you can only use the guys 1 game per week, so last week I used Ellis for AMC's first game of the week (vs. like Rivier or someone like that). Wasn't terrible, think he had like 16 points + 10 rebounds, so I missed his 39 point outburst against St. Joes.....however I did use Walters for that game though.
I may pick up Fox for my 2nd team though, I'll see how he does this week, and see if I want to use him next week.
I completely agree junkie.. home court is so big in GNAC. I think tomorrow's game will be big; hopefullfalcons are back at full strength. They really need the team together for 5 or 6 games. Let the team find itself.
Be eager to see Fox play.
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I completely agree junkie.. home court is so big in GNAC. I think tomorrow's game will be big; hopefullfalcons are back at full strength. They really need the team together for 5 or 6 games. Let the team find itself.
Be eager to see Fox play.
What a game for Fox to debut in as well!! Being a "freshman" he doesn't really know himself how huge this rivalry is between Albertus and JWU but I am sure (and I hope) that guys like JQ Walters, Grant Ellis, Erik Langston and some of the other veterans will let him know.
As I am typing this I just keep saying to myself "I really hope he plays tonight" because again we are all speculating here really!
Outstanding win by the Falcons last night! They crushed JWU 87-63 and certainly put the rest of the league on notice.
JQ Walters had a HUGE game with 25 points and 16 rebounds. He is without question my favorite player on this team. Such a nice kid and really plays the game hard. Grant Ellis dropped 22 as well and looked unstoppable in the first half. At one point he made a 3 pointer and as soon as he released it he looked at the crowd before it even went in the basket. Defensively the Falcons stepped up as well. They completely shut JWU down and did an excellent job of rebounding the basketball which has been a struggle of late for the Falcons.
Anthony Jernigan is an outstanding player for JWU. His handles are so tight and he is so quick. He is fun to watch but he also isn't a guy who can completely take over a game by himself and this JWU team around him just isn't deep enough to overcome the early onslaught that the Falcons applied.
Still no Aaron Fox! I really thought he was going to play last night! Maybe on Saturday we will see his much anticipated debut!
Speaking of Saturday.......This is going to be the biggest game of the year for the Falcons. If they can pull it off on the road at Lasell then I think the Falcons wrap up the #1 seed for the GNAC tourney which as we have mentioned before is so important for this team. With all due respect to Mt Ida because I know we still play them twice and they have had a very solid season, I just don't see our boys losing to them. Plus the momentum this team can carry with the possibility of back to back wins over JWU and Lasell would undoubtedly jump start this team into another gear that I am not sure other GNAC opponents will be able to hang with!
Forgot to mention in my post this morning. Looks like another injury for the Falcons.
Damien Grant was on the sidelines in a sweatsuit last night. Has anyone heard of what his injury might be?
I look at Damien Grant as the future of this team. Very much like I did with JQ Walters during his freshman season. He doesn't have as much skill to his overall game as Walters has but from a post player standpoint, I really feel like this could be a kid that Oliver chooses to almost run his offense through in a couple years. He has showed at times this year that he has a knack for getting the ball in the basket. And his overall athleticism and leaping skills are second to none for a 1st year player.
Lets hope he is OK and will be back sooner then later.
Junkie, very good win for falcons on a couple of levels.
1. It's always good to beat JWU!
2. Good bounce back win
3. Defensive energy was great.. I always remember larsen and vic really shutting teams down; those were the key to those great Albertus teams
4. Got some guys back off the ir list. Coleman and Mitchell were available.
5. Lasell has kept winning; keeping pressure on falcons
I am still not convinced of Fox. Unless he is not eligible, or hurt there is no reason for him to not have logged at least 2 minutes. There have been a few blow out games. I hope I am wrong.
Grant is big; hopefully ge returns soon. The good thing of losing him for a few games is getting perriman some minutes. He has played well.
Saints; great job by Emmanal last night. Big win!!
What a win for the Falcons on Saturday! They outplayed Lasell from start to finish. I thought it was there most complete game all season.
Back to back wins over JWU and Lasell says a lot about where this team is right now. They are clicking at the right time and look like a force to be reckoned with to close out the season. Lets hope they can keep the momentum going!
Another gutsy performance last night by the Falcons as they beat Mt Ida on the road 86-80
I was not able to attend the game live but watched online. The broadcast that was put on by Mt Ida was outstanding. The play by play announcer was outstanding and the feed overall was excellent. He did a wonderful job of remaining unbiased throughout the entire contest. It really was the best broadcast I have heard to date in the GNAC. Although I will say (and as much as it kills me ;D ) the folks over at Johnson and Wales do a great job with broadcasting the games as well.
This was a night where Albertus wasn't really at their best and yet they still put together a nice run in the second half to secure the lead and get out of town with a W.
JQ Walters is an absolute machine. He had 25 points and 23 rebounds last night! He is an absolute animal and really is a pleasure to watch.
I have to give Mt Ida credit. They are much more athletic than I thought they were but they are a little undisciplined and with the exception of guard Joey Defillipi they dont shoot the ball that well from distance. Now I must point out that Ethan Dujon did not play in this game. He is far and away Mt Ida best player but regardless I still think the Falcons would have come out on top last night.
The wins keep on coming!! Anna Maria on Saturday at THE NEST!!! They gave us a scare earlier in the year at Anna Maria but on Saturday I am predicting a 20+ point victory!
What do you guys think of Lasell's Armin Omanovic as the GNAC POY ? I saw him play in some non league games as well as league games and was impressed by the fact that he does more than just score points. He handles the ball against the press, runs the offense, and also sees the floor very well. Is there any other players who stand out above the rest of the league?
Saint-Paul
I think the POY race comes down to three players who all coincidentally happen to be the three top scorers in the league as well.
Armin Omanovic from Lasell, Jaqhawn Walters from Albertus and Anthony Jernigan from JWU
There aren't another three players in the league more important to their team's success then these three right here.
I would have to think that Armin is the favorite at this point even though I think both JQ and Jernigan are more deserving. My vote in order would be JQ Walters, Anthony Jernigan and then Armin Omanovic
My case for JQ Walter........He is a walking double double who on a number of occasions also dishes out assists nightly that look like they are coming from a guard. He has just missed on a couple of triple doubles this year and has a motor that is unlike any player at 6'6 that I have seen before. He is the emotional and mental leader of this Albertus team and rarely comes out of ball games. Again from a pure skill and talent standpoint and overall game I don't think you can argue that JQ Walters isn't the best players in the league. And let's not forget as well, winning counts a lot here in this category if you ask me and his Falcons are in 1st place for a reason.
Anthony Jernigan......No one on any team in the GNAC is more important to their team's success then Anthony Jernigan. If you take him off this Johnson and Wales team I really believe they fall into the bottom half of the GNAC. This year's JWU teams does not really have a lot of go to options and Jernigan is really the only person on this team that can shoulder the load. He is a savvy veteran point guard whose handles are so tight and he does an excellent job of getting others involved but he can also create on his own and get in to the lane at will when necessary. His team is also winning, currently in 2nd place in the GNAC right behind the Falcons.
Armin Omanovic......No one in the league is craftier with the ball then Armin. His ability to change speeds with the ball and get in the lane are second to none. He can also shoot the ball from deep and draw any player off for a foul where he goes to the line and converts. He is another player that if taken off this Lasell team I would think they would fall off quite a bit. But not as far as JWU. I think there is more of a supporting cast on this Lasell team then JWU. He leads the league and is one of the tops in the country at 27 PPG. His team albeit is also winning but has lost twice to Albertus and has split with JWU. Some may not like it but these are factors that I really feel must be part of the POY selection process.
That being said I think Armin will be selected by the coaches as the POY. I don't want to get into why I think this will happen but I am more than confident that it will
Yes, I would agree with all three nominations, as players who stand out above the rest of the league. All three are extremely valuable to their teams, and are responsible for helping their teams have winning records. Which ever player wins the POY award it will be well deserved, and all three being considered are in good company.
The focus of Division III basketball now turns towards the second Regional Rankings. At the same time, conference regular seasons are wrapping up and the pressure of conference tournaments is increasing.
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Albertus fans will be looking forward to a big night on Tuesday. Saints defense has been porous all year. They get blown out by any team with an above 0.500 record. On Saturday the Saints pressing, trapping, defense held Lasell to 57 points, in the first half. Kept them under a 100 for the game. Part of the Saints defensive problems start with poor shot selection on offense, which often leads to run outs for the other team. However, most of the defensive problems stem from jogging back on defense after a missed shot. Not sure why it is so hard to teach college players to defend. Just because they are not great shooters doesn't mean they can't defend the basket with maximum effort. A 60 point first half for Albertus is not out of reach.
Halftime score, Albertus 44 - Emmanuel 31. Saints have played a 3 - 2 zone all year long, including their non league games, and they pick tonight, against the most athletic team in the league to switch to a man to man defense. Don't get it. Albertus is getting into the paint any time they want to, and when a Saint defender comes to help they kick the ball out for a wide open three. At least in their zone they could run the shooters off the three point line. Let's just hope that the Saints don't come out to start the second half in their famous full court trap press.
Saints gave the Falcons a pretty decent run last night. Even when the game got close in the second half I was still more than confident that the Falcons were going to come out with the victory. We played a very well balanced first half with the exception of a number of bad turnovers. However in the second it became sloppy on more than a few possessions and it allowed Emmanuel to go on a few runs which allowed them to get back into the game. Again my confidence never wavered because our athleticism was simply too much for the Saints to overcome.
Saint-Paul - I think last night's performance by JQ Walters only strengthens my case for him as GNAC POY. Wouldn't you agree? 34 Points and 23 rebounds!?!?!? It honestly seems like he can go out and get a 20/20 game every night out in the GNAC. His motor truly is remarkable. The kid just does not tire and the Saints had no match for him on either end of the court.
A big congrats to JQ as well as he surpassed the 1,000 point mark in the victory!
Final game and senior day on Saturday as Mount Ida comes to town!
Did the Falcons lock up the #1 seed and home court advantage last night too? Say we lose to Mt Ida on Saturday and JWU wins out. We would be tied correct?
Anyone know what the tiebreaker is to determine seeding?
Yes, I agree that game last night was never in doubt. Walters and others could get to the rim any time they wanted. Any missed shot just turned into an easy tap in. The difference in athleticism was obvious. The Saints best weapon isn't passing, shooting , or rebounding, it is chaos. In the first half Albertus stuck to their game plan, attacked the Saints defenders off the dribble causing perimeter defenders to have to help out. They kicked the ball out for easy, open threes. In the second half the Saints went to their chaos weapon, switching to zone and turning the game into an up and down the court running, shooting style with no game plan. That helped get the Saints back into the game but the Albertus offensive rebounders just took over the game in the last 6 minutes.
Yes, Walters played like the POY last night. He dominated the game at both ends, when he wasn't scoring or rebounding he was blocking shots and starting fast breaks. However, on Saturday, Omanovic also played like the POY against the Saints, throwing in 37 points, 6 threes, and 5 assists. Other leagues have named co POY's in the past, I see no reason why the
GNAC can't do that this year.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 15, 2017, 12:51:00 PM
Did the Falcons lock up the #1 seed and home court advantage last night too? Say we lose to Mt Ida on Saturday and JWU wins out. We would be tied correct?
Anyone know what the tiebreaker is to determine seeding?
If it is like other leagues, the first tiebreaker is head-to-head. If that doesn't break the tie, it then goes to record vs. common opponents in the order of their standing. Since Albertus Magnus and Johnson and Wales are 1st and 2nd, you'd start with 3rd-place Lasell. In this case, Albertus went 2-0 vs. the Lasers and J&W went 1-1, so I believe the Falcons would have the tiebreaker over Johnson and Wales. If that had not worked, you would keep moving down the standings in order. I can't be sure this is the tiebreaker for the GNAC, but it is for several other leagues, so I'm taking a chance in thinking it's the same. I cannot find anything that actually spells out the tiebreakers.
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Wow great stuff. Thanks AllStar
I especially like the breakdown table that you provided. I suppose if this is indeed the case for tiebreak purposes in the GNAC, then the Falcons did in fact lock up the number one seed regardless of the result on Saturday.
Thanks Again......Plus K to you sir
Before tonight's game Norwich had only 4 league wins. Well, now they have 5. Norwich beat the Saints 83 - 77 on the Saints home court. Somehow the Saints managed to lose to Norwich, in spite of shooting 40% from the field, one of their best shooting nights of the season. The Saints don't shoot in the forties very often, but they did tonight and still couldn't get the win. Their swiss cheese defense just doesn't get any stops, even when the game is on the line. This sets up an interesting game on Saturday with JWU. Tonight's loss is number 199 for the Saints coach. If the Saints can avoid the upset at JWU, their coach will reach the 200 loss milestone in just 13 seasons. A remarkable feat even for the GANC.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 16, 2017, 08:33:22 PM
Wow great stuff. Thanks AllStar
I especially like the breakdown table that you provided. I suppose if this is indeed the case for tiebreak purposes in the GNAC, then the Falcons did in fact lock up the number one seed regardless of the result on Saturday.
Thanks Again......Plus K to you sir
No problem! I've been experimenting with my graphics across these boards. ;D
Good luck to your Falcons the rest of the way!
Well GNAC fans it looks like the conference tournament is set with the usual Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday format that we have all become accustomed too seeing.
Here is the official matchups and gametimes broken down for us all courtesy of thegnac.com
Quarterfinals - Tuesday, February 21
Game 1: #8 Anna Maria at #1 Albertus Magnus - 7:00 PM
Game 2: #5 Saint Joseph's of Maine at #4 Mount Ida - 7:00 PM
Game 3: #6 Emmanuel at #3 Lasell - 7:00 PM
Game 4: #7 Suffolk at #2 Johnson & Wales - 7:30 PM
Semifinals - Thursday, February 23
Game 5: Game 1 winner vs. Game 2 winner
Game 6: Game 3 winner vs. Game 4 winner
Final - Saturday, February 25
Game 7: Game 5 winner vs. Game 6 winner
I plan on giving my full predictions for the tournament tomorrow!
I will be rooting on the Falcons for all 3 games.(Hopefully!) This team can be so GREAT & then so AVERAGE!
All because they have become too much of an outside shooting team. (T.G. For Walters & his inside game!)
That said, the home court & their energy should carry them to the championship over LASELL!
On Tuesday I don't see any upsets. Albertus over Anna Marie by 92 - 62. JWU over Suffolk by 76 - 61.
Lasell over Emmanuel by 89 - 64. Mt Ida over St Joe by 74 - 59.
On Thursday i see much closer games. Albertus over JWU by 83 - 71. Lasell over Mt Ida 74 - 66.
On Saturday I see an overtime game, Albertus over Lasell 91 - 88.
Welcome to the board Falcon25!
Saint, respectfully I have to disagree with you on a few picks. I think there is going to be an upset tomorrow night. I was curious the other day after Lasell's last regular season game so I checked the box score. Armin Omanovic did not play so I did a little digging. Terrible news for Lasell and for Armin as it looks like he tore his ACL a few games ago and is done for the season. For a senior this is just terrible news. No ones career should have to come to an end like this but unfortanatley injuries are a big part of the game and this injury particulary clearly is going to affect this team.
So with that, here are my picks.......
Tuesday
Albertus 94 Ann Maria 72
JWU 81 Suffolk 75
Emmanuel 82 Lasell 79 (UPSET)
Mt Ida 72 St Joes 60
Thursday
Albertus 92 JWU 79
Mt Ida 86 Emmanuel 73
Saturday
Albertus 98 Mt Ida 77
Congrats to Coach Oliver and the falcons on a regular season GNAC title. This has been an impressive job by Mitch, inconsistency with roster due to injuries has kept this team from really dominating like in the past. I don't see any upsets either in the first round.
Saint: Mt. Ida would play Albertus in second round. I could see Lasell, Albertus or JWU winning the tournament.
Walters has been amazing. Ellis is clutch. I like Coleman. If those three get it going, Albertus will be tough to beat in New Haven.
Thanks, Junkie!
Terrible news on Armin!! He is the best guard in the league! He makes Lasell such an excellent team &
this will hurt, but I still say Lasell finds their way to the final against Albertus.
GO FALCONS!
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That is shocking news about Omanovic. You are correct, he did not appear in the last box score. I looked up his last three games before the injury and he had 37, 37, and 34. Will someone on Lasell step up and fill those numbers? Lasell is still a good team but the loss of Omanovic will make it an even game. Will have to watch to see what happens. I thought Mt Ida did a very nice job this year of stepping up into one of the top four spots in the conference. Early in the year St Joe was playing well but mid way through January they started to falter, and Mt Ida really stepped up their performance to grab the fourth playoff spot. Yes, Mt Ida may be the dark horse in this years tournament. Good luck to all your teams.
Albertus wouldn't play JWU until finals not in semis.
Lasell held on for the win, 76 - 74, but they did not look great. Lasell looked tentative on offense, passing up shots hoping someone else would shoot the ball. Their transition game was not strong and their decision making was questionable. They really looked like they missed their leader and team captain. Saints on the other hand, playing free and easy, without pressure, with nothing to lose, looked like they were going to pull off the upset. Saints blew an 8 point lead with 3 minutes to play but made a lot of shots that they would ordinarily have missed, just to keep the game close. With 29 seconds to play and down by 2 points, Saints came out of a time out and could not even execute a play correctly. Possibly the biggest possession of the year and they did not get a clean shot at the basket.
Saints lose their 18 th game of the year. Saints coach gets his 200 th career loss in just 13 seasons. The double digit loss seasons are really starting to pile up, with no light at the end of the tunnel.
Just got back from the Albertus game vs Anna Maria. The Falcons intensity, on both sides of the ball, decided this game early on. Walters had his usual double-double. Shaq Mitchell played GREAT DEFENSE & provided consistent outside scoring. Last, but certainly not least, LIAM PERRYMAN
is growing into a real good center, with a HIGH CEILING!
NEXT UP, MT. IDA! See you Thursday!
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Crazy night in the GNAC!
Albertus took care of business and beat Anna Maria
Looked like a great game between St. Joes and Mt Ida. Looks like Mt. Idas athleticism took over late in the game giving them a big first round victory
As Saint already pointed out, it looked like Emmanuel had this game won but a few bad possessions at the end of the game allowed Lasell to come out with the W
JWU was all over Suffolk from start to finish and got the much expected victory
Semi Finals should be pretty interesting. Although I think both higher seeds come out on top.
Albertus 91 Mt Ida 79
JWU 84 Lasell 71
This would setup a GNAC tournament final between Albertus and JWU........What a shocker!! LOL
Albertus handled Mt Ida at home just a week ago with ease. This Mt Ida team is much more athletic than teams give them credit for and they could be dangerous but I just dont see how there is any way Coach Oliver and this Albertus team loses on their home court. There isnt a tougher place to play in The GNAC then THE NEST!!!
LETS PACK THE NEST TONIGHT FALCON FANS!!!!!!!
Big Semi Final matchup tonight for the Falcons! Hopefully Devin Coleman and Damien Grant are both healthy for this game. It would be reassuring to see Coleman log more minutes over (hopefully) the next few games! He needs to find his range again! Time off for shooters is never a good thing!
Saw the Lasell - JWU box score. Cannot figure out how Lasell won this game. JWU was leading 35 - 23 at half. Lasell shot 9 % from the 3 point line for the game and 39% overall. JWU took 25 free throws. How did JWU end up losing this game?
Lasell won due to a 52-35 rebounding edge. Too, check out the second chance points.
Lasell is a very worthy opponent for A.M.C. on Saturday. That said, if Albertus keeps
playing with the intensity I have seen the last 2 games, this game will be over at halftime!
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Albertus is playing its best basketball right now. I like the team chemistry. I think if everyone is healthy than Albertus wins at home. They are so tough there.
What a comeback by Lasell. They dominatedbthe glass and got second chance points!
Which team will show up in New Haven on Saturday? A team who is playing with house money and confidence or a team without its best player and just happy to be there? If the latter shows up this game will be over by halftime.
This will be coach Oliver's 7 GNAC championship game; he is 5-1 currently.
Thanks for that falcons2010
7 GNAC championship appearances for Coach Oliver with 5 GNAC championship titles to his name. All in 10 years!!! With a 6th title possible on Saturday
Really when you stop and think about how far this program has come under his leadership it is truly a remarkable. Regardless of the conference. It has to be one of the better turnarounds in recent memory for D3Hoops. Especially when you look at the numbers pre Oliver era.
Regarding the JWU and Lasell game.......
What a meltdown for the Wildcats. You dont see that too often at the Wildcat Center for JWU. Normally at home they are very tough to beat and when they get a double digit lead it typically leads to a victory. As mentioned already the rebounding and second chance points was the only outlier that the allowed Lasell to get back into the game and eventually win it for them. As Saint mentioned, with a quick glance of the game box score you would never have imagined that Lasell would be the victor in the game.
Great effort by the Lasell. I look forward to this matchup tomorrow.
Will post my prediction and thoughts on the game later today
I like the blue collar work by this team. I think at home it is tough to beat them. Go get number 5 in 6 falcons!
Albertus Magnus has come together as a team. They have razor sharp focus on defense right now.
They also have a true leader in Walters who will not let this championship escape them.
Both of these teams rebound well, it will come down to which team defends better, especially against
the 3- ball.
I agree falcons. They both play solid defense; Lasell led conference in opposing fg percentage. Ellis could have one of those monster game eapecially if Albertus gets some points in paint with walters and perryman.
What's coleman status? Hasn't played muxh, is it injury or ineffectiveness? At one point, he was the second best player for the falcons.
Devin Coleman is fine, but Shaq plays better defense. Mitch is riding the hot hand too in that Shaq has
been a consistent scorer of late.
In the last game, it was a battle of defensive "wills" for about 11 minutes & A.M.C. won that battle
& ran off a string of baskets. I predict the same tomorrow, but whose "will" will win?
CAN HARDLY WAIT- SEE YA @ 1PM!
Wow, What a game! Hats off to a very game LaSell squad!
Too, much Falcon scoring..monster games by SHaq Mitchell &
Grant. J. Walters..just the MVP of the Tournament & he better
be PLAYER OF THE YEAR in GNAC!
OFF TO THE DANCE! (Monday)
Congrats to Coach Oliver and the falcons! Great back and forth action for the first 25 minutes. BuT Ellis and Shaq scored 8 unanswered points to help Albertus take control.
Lasell played great but their shooting wasn't consistent in second half and Albertus got inside too often.
Let's see where the committee sends them. They probablu will draw the 1 seed in yhe bracket they go to. Any thoughts on where they might go?
"2010"- you were right on the mark re: Grant Ellis & his "monster" game!
He was feeling it, especially in the first half. (That "ankle breaking" fake on a drive from the left
corner was the best move I`ve seen in years!)
As far as where A.M.C. will end up...how about Greater Albany/Upstate N.Y.?
We`ll find out soon enough!
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Did not see Rochester play this year and don't know what Albertus chances are in that game , but I did see Wesleyan play against the Saints this year. Albertus is much more athletic than Wesleyan, especially in the paint, and a step quicker on defense. I don't think Wesleyan will be able to run on Albertus like they did on the Saints. If Albertus can get past the first round I think they can go pretty far.
Hi Saint- Albertus has to play a disciplined, defensive game. A team like Rochester will kill you with their passing(18 assists per game)
if you don`t stay focused defensively. They are not a great rebounding team (38 R.P.G.) & their shooting % is similar
to A.M.C. They average 80 P.P.G.
THIS IS A VERY WINNABLE GAME - GO GET THEM FALCONS! ;
Now granted I haven't seen Albertus play, but I'd be surprised if they are much more athletic than Wesleyan. Wesleyan has its flaws, but lack of athleticism isn't one of them -- Joseph Kuo is an extremely athletic rim protector and rebounder at center. Bonner, Green, Sears, and O'Brien are all extremely quick, athletic perimeter players (and except for Green, who is the fastest of the bunch, they are all big and physical to boot). Green and Bonner have both missed big chunks of the season but both seem to be healthy now. Krill is resonably athletic at the 4 and Rafferty is more of a shooter at guard. But Wesleyan is very, very difficult to score against because of their length and athleticsm, and they can definitely run the floor. When Wesleyan loses to a team that it should beat, it's usually because it is struggling to make shots. (See RIC game, 2-23 from 3 and 3-8 from the line, or Trinity game, 6-21 from 3, 13-25 from the line). But the Cards are I'd say the most athletic overall of the five NESCAC teams in the tourney.
Interesting matchup for AMC. They seem like the kind of team that will just do what they do and challenge the opponent to stop them, while Rochester seems more a squad that looks to take away the opponents advantage and be more tactical.
If AMC keeps rebounding @ 50 per game & playing the razor sharp defense of their last 10 games,
this game will be over at halftime.
Momentum is a wonderful thing!
GO FALCONS!
Quote from: Falcons 25 on February 27, 2017, 08:17:44 PM
If AMC keeps rebounding @ 50 per game & playing the razor sharp defense of their last 10 games,
this game will be over at halftime.
Momentum is a wonderful thing!
GO FALCONS!
Turnovers will be the big thing. Rochester plays a "no mistakes" game, whereas AMC tends to be, um, a little freer with their possessions because they plan to have a lot of them.
I agree turnovers are the key for AMC to win this game. If AMC can keep their turnovers to <14,
R.U.`s conservative game plan will cost them the game. AMC rebounds better than most- 50 R.P.G.
We shall see Friday night!
Quote from: Falcons 25 on February 27, 2017, 08:57:15 PM
I agree turnovers are the key for AMC to win this game. If AMC can keep their turnovers to <14,
R.U.`s conservative game plan will cost them the game. AMC rebounds better than most- 50 R.P.G.
We shall see Friday night!
Remember, Like Flokerzi, Rochester's coach, played at Grinnell - I suspect they'll play the way he thinks gives them the best chance to win. He strikes me as the kind of guy who sees things from a unique angle. I'll be looking forward to this one.
I remember watching Askew and Watson playing for the falcons. Two really good players; Askew was an All American; 2,000 points and rebounds. They won their first round matchup that year and were set to face Middlebury. Midd was top 10 that tear. I was so excited to play them; talk all year was about Albertus SOS. Albertus had two studs and a good supporting cast. They had lost 1 game that year. Albertus jumped out to a 9-2 lead and I was saying these guys haven't played agaisnt a team like this. Well, after a timeout then next 36 minutes was a real learning experience about team game planning. Albertus, that year, averaged over 90 points and about 20 offensive rebounds. Midd did an amazing job of forcing bad shot selections, controlled the defensive glass, and ran Albertus out of the gym. Midd won by 30 I think. I was shocked; this team out ran Albertus. It was a lay up drill for abouy 10 minutes.
So I caution my Albertus supporters. Their are really good teams and coaches who gameplan well. I don't think this team is as good as that team nor the big Vic, Eian teams. This team has been tough and they have veterans.
Let's go Falcons!
2010:
"So you`re saying that we have a chance"? It is incumbent that Mitch Oliver come up with an equally ingenious
game plan. He has been through this several times now, so my expectation is that he will have the team more
than prepared to beat Rochester University.
Does anyone know if AMC travels to Rochester Thursday or Friday? (I hope it is Thursday; that`s a 5 - hour ride!)
Today or Thursday morning. They will have practice time in the Palestra tomorrow and having meetings and NCAA stuff as well tomorrow.
Thanks, Dave. Appreciate the rapid response!
Well Falcon Fans here we are again. NCAA tournament bound!
This team has been incredibly resilient this season. They have dealt with so many injuries from start to finish and through it all, another GNAC Championship and NCAA tourney birth.
I love the chemistry and where this team is at right now. I think they are all in a good place mentally and they really looks like they love playing for one another and their coach. I like the fact that is sounds like most people think Albertus is a trendy upset pick but at the same time that scares me to death. Rochester appears to be a very well coached team who executes with precision and shoots the ball at a very high rate. That being said I think our Falcons are like that as well! This will no doubt be a great game. To me it actually looks like Rochester like to run the ball a little too but within the UAA I dont think they have ever really came across a team that can run the way Albertus can.
Albertus2010 - I agree with you that the Eian Davis/Big Vic era teams were our best. And I loved the Ray Askew era teams as well but that team that faced Middlebury was not as good as this seasons team. There are so many more weapons on this team compared to that team. Not to mention, that Middleburry team was OUTSTANDING. I believe his name was Ryan Sherry for Middlebury?? To this day he is still one of the most impressive players I have personally seen at the D3 level. We were simply over matched in that contest.
I am not saying that the Falcons are going to win outright tomorrow. They will have to play their tails off and be smart with the basketball. I too have faith in Coach Oliver and his ability to game plan. The Falcons are not over matched by any stretch of the imagination.
LETS GO FALCONS! As Coach Oliver always says, Lets take it one game at a time!
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 01, 2017, 09:31:17 PM
Today or Thursday morning. They will have practice time in the Palestra tomorrow and having meetings and NCAA stuff as well tomorrow.
Hey Dave, Care to elaborate on this a little more? Specifically "NCAA stuff" I was always curious as to how this all works come tourney time? Do the teams and coaches actually meet with a rep from the NCAA who is on hand? Meetings? Details?
Just curious how this all goes down on a typical tournament weekend?
I am sure it is much more involved then what the novice fan might think?
Thanks
Just noticed that Lasell's Omanovic is a finalist for the Jostens award. Not surprising from the way he plays the game on the court. Good Luck, hope he wins it.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 02, 2017, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 01, 2017, 09:31:17 PM
Today or Thursday morning. They will have practice time in the Palestra tomorrow and having meetings and NCAA stuff as well tomorrow.
Hey Dave, Care to elaborate on this a little more? Specifically "NCAA stuff" I was always curious as to how this all works come tourney time? Do the teams and coaches actually meet with a rep from the NCAA who is on hand? Meetings? Details?
Just curious how this all goes down on a typical tournament weekend?
I am sure it is much more involved then what the novice fan might think?
Thanks
The head coaches and an athletic department official (I believe, been a *long* time since I was in one of these) meet with the NCAA rep to go over timelines and such, yes.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 02, 2017, 01:35:14 PM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on March 02, 2017, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 01, 2017, 09:31:17 PM
Today or Thursday morning. They will have practice time in the Palestra tomorrow and having meetings and NCAA stuff as well tomorrow.
Hey Dave, Care to elaborate on this a little more? Specifically "NCAA stuff" I was always curious as to how this all works come tourney time? Do the teams and coaches actually meet with a rep from the NCAA who is on hand? Meetings? Details?
Just curious how this all goes down on a typical tournament weekend?
I am sure it is much more involved then what the novice fan might think?
Thanks
The head coaches and an athletic department official (I believe, been a *long* time since I was in one of these) meet with the NCAA rep to go over timelines and such, yes.
What he said... there are team meetings and then coaching staff and support staff have one or more meetings with the NCAA rep and such. There are some items the next day as well.
A really bad half by Albertus; probably worst have since the 2nd half agaisnt Babson. It is easy to forget that this team has no tournament experience. 20 minutes is a long time; they need to make a few shots. Rochester has no experience either; make it a 2 possession game and see what happens.
Rochester not allowing Albertus in paint. Albertus had too many one and done possessions. Walters needs to in his game.
On another note where was this #13 ranked team in 2015? Lol
This Albertus team was not ready for primetime! No dribble penetration at all! (other than Walters, this year, that was always an issue!)
It just never became an issue in GNAC play. (The outside shooters always covered this weakness!)
Next year, we need a point guard who can get to the rim consistently like Eian Davis. Ryan can move over to a wing, as he can shoot well.
All in All, an excellent year! JUST ONE TERRIBLE DISAPPOINTMENT TONIGHT!
Well Falcon Fans,
Now that I have had some time to digest that performance from Friday night I thought I would give my take on the outcome. As already mentioned on here the Falcons simply did not come ready to play in this game. All the credit in the world has to go to Rochester. They were a great team who I look forward to watching the rest of the way. Every time it looked like we were going to go on one of our patented scoring runs Rochester either forced us into a costly turnover or they came right back down the court on the offensive end and buried a 3.
Shooting percentage for the Falcons was abysmal. However, as I was watching the game I noticed that it wasn't due to contested shots and tough looks. Albertus just had one of those nights that you want to forget. They couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat! This is also a reason why I am a little skeptical of Rochester going forward. We had many open looks from the perimeter and even out rebounded them. Away from their home court, I could see them struggling because of these factors. They are a great offensive team but defense and toughness are huge variables in the tournament and they will need to improve drastically if they want to advance past the round of 16.
Falcons25 – Ryan Pittman is our PG and will be our starting PG regardless of who comes in over the next 2 years. Did he have a tough game on Friday? Yes he did. But this kid is an absolute warrior. He is the toughest player on the team and had a great sophomore season and I look forward to seeing him progress. Players like Eian Davis just don't come around D3 to often. In fact, since he graduated I still have yet to see another true PG of his caliber anywhere. Pittman played his behind off on Friday till the bitter end.
Another player I wanted to single out was Shaq Mitchell. He played his heart out and really tried to do everything he could to keep the Falcons in the game. He played great down the stretch and looked like the only really ready and willing to take on the challenge Friday night.
Grant Ellis – I felt terrible for this kid. He just couldn't make a shot. All of us here in New Haven know how great a shooter he is but unfortunately he had a really tough game on Friday night. He had some costly turnovers and defensively he was a liability (although that was something we all knew about going into the game)
I was shocked at the tough game JQ Walters had. He looked like he was really struggling out there. The Falcons had a hard time getting him touches and when he did get it either at the FT line or in the post he really struggled to score the basketball. But none of us can EVER complain about this kid. Conference player of the year and heart and soul of the team! I just hope he uses this as even more motivation for next season because he (along with everyone else) deserved a better ending to the season then what happened Friday night.
That's all I am going to touch on now. I am going to look more into this team going forward in a few weeks and post my thoughts on our chances next season.
Congrats again to Coach Oliver and the Falcons on yet another successful season. And a big thanks to our senior class!
Congratulations to coach Oliver and the falcons. Only one men basketball team at each level will win the national championship. A conference regular season and tournament championship should be honored. The seniors didn't want their season to end the way it did but they should be proud of the way they played and fought this year. The team had a lot of injuries yet overcame them. Walters made this team his. Great job falcons. Junkie, you made excellent points that I agree with. Shaq aMitchell played a heck of a game and had a great year.
From a fan stand point; we took a punch to the gut when we found out that Lovell was no longer on the team. And another one when Jones was ruled out for the season with an injury. Yet these relatively young Falcons overcame that to win the GNAC.
Awesome job guys!
I will post on the future soon.
Falcons 2010 - Could you imagine if we had Lovell this season? With the way Liam Perryman progressed and just how good Damian Grant already is and both are Freshman!!! Having Lovell score in the post and rebound......This team could have really been super special. I really feel like the dynamic of our offense and defense would have been completely different had he stayed.
Not to mention, as far as I know he is not playing anywhere anymore. Really sad to hear. I wish he just could have understood his role and realized that Albertus was the best place for him. As we mentioned in the past, he was far to undersized to try and make a jump to a higher division. He was an animal for D3 but just didnt have the height to play D2 or D1 and if you are undersized you have to have a little mid range to your game as well which he did not.
In the middle of a nor'easter blizzard. Great time to post a season summary for the Saints. Another 18 loss season for the Saints. Saints lost and got blown out in all their non conference games except against Curry College, where they needed a 30 foot buzzer beater to keep from losing to a win less team. Saints finish again in the bottom 5 teams in the GNAC. Majority of their 8 wins come against the bottom GNAC teams. Plenty of opportunities to step up into the top five this year, but again that did not happen. Saints finish the year again with a negative assist to turnover ratio, and as a team shot 29% from the 3 point arc. Saints defense gave up just under 80 points a game. It is difficult watching a team miss so many 3 point shots and then jog back on defense as if giving up so many fast break baskets is no big deal. Well, it should be a big deal.
Only highlight of the season was the coach getting his 200 th career loss on the last day. I guess 200 isn't enough, it's onward and upward to 250 next season.
I think enough time has surpassed now from the 2016-2017 season. It is time to start thinking about next season!
I don't think there is any question that the Falcons will once again be the team to beat in the GNAC. We bring back a ton of talent. Conference POY JQ Walters, our starting PG Ryan Pittman and a bevy of 2nd year players who will no doubt continue to improve. Jahmerikah Green Younger had a very respectable freshman campaign and showed us at times that he can shoot the ball with anyone. Big men Liam Perryman and Damian Grant got better each time they played and you could honestly say that in terms of post play, the two of them played the best out of anyone we had in the NCAA tournament. Losing guys like Grant Ellis, Devin Coleman and Shaq Mitchell it tough no doubt because the three were all gifted scorers in so many ways, but we also need to understand that not one of them played defense and Coach Oliver could recruit shooting guards in his sleep.
I don't foresee a large freshman recruiting class coming in because of how much we have returning but I could see Oliver landing high level transfers like we have seen over the past several seasons. Not to mention, Mason Jones will be back! We never really saw a healthy Mason Jones as it appeared that he reinjured his broken wrist after coming back for only 3 games. Hopefully he will be 100% for next season. He came in as a highly touted JUCO recruit. You aren't a JUCO All American for nothing so we all know this kid can play!
I can't wait to hear about some recruiting news so if any Falcon supporters hear anything during this off season make sure you post it here on the board!!!! I know I will be doing so!
Apparently, hoopdirt is making a big deal about the hiring of an assistant coach at Emmanuel who has previous college head coaching experience. I wonder if if having an ex head coach sitting on the bench just made the head coach's seat a little hotter. Well, after 200 career losses it should!
Quote from: Saint-Paul on May 10, 2017, 10:57:41 AM
Apparently, hoopdirt is making a big deal about the hiring of an assistant coach at Emmanuel who has previous college head coaching experience. I wonder if if having an ex head coach sitting on the bench just made the head coach's seat a little hotter. Well, after 200 career losses it should!
I like hoopdirt (and I know he reads these boards), but sometimes he makes a big deal out of something because they are friends or he got the scoop on something. :)
Quote from: Saint-Paul on May 10, 2017, 10:57:41 AM
Apparently, hoopdirt is making a big deal about the hiring of an assistant coach at Emmanuel who has previous college head coaching experience. I wonder if if having an ex head coach sitting on the bench just made the head coach's seat a little hotter. Well, after 200 career losses it should!
Anytime you can add a coach with a 39-74 record to a coach with 200 career losses at a school, you have to be excited...
Yes, I believe that the Saint's fan base can relax and enjoy the summer months knowing that the brain trust for the upcoming season is already in place. After all, with 274 combined losses sitting on the bench, how can they lose? ? ?
Saint Paul,
I sympathize with you; we only have so many fan years. Just watch out if you're riding a donkey soon - Saul got knocked off his ass and renamed Paul when he failed to convert. ::)
Maybe you can help me out here Dave.......
So last season Mason Jones who was a JUCO transfer with 2 full year of eligibility left broke his wrist during the preseason and only played in 2 maybe 3 games before re-injuring that same wrist, causing him to miss the rest of the season.
Does he lose that entire year of eligibility? Or is there someway he can get that year back considering the injury??
As a college hoops fan I cant help but to think of Tim Abromaitis who was a star at Notre Dame but had so many knee injuries that he actually wound up staying in South Bend for 6 seasons! I am sure there are big differences between D1 and D3 but if someone can elaborate on this for me I would appreciate any information?
And oddly enough Jim Abromaitis, Tims father is the Athletic Director at Albertus!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on June 02, 2017, 01:23:32 PM
Maybe you can help me out here Dave.......
So last season Mason Jones who was a JUCO transfer with 2 full year of eligibility left broke his wrist during the preseason and only played in 2 maybe 3 games before re-injuring that same wrist, causing him to miss the rest of the season.
Does he lose that entire year of eligibility? Or is there someway he can get that year back considering the injury??
As a college hoops fan I cant help but to think of Tim Abromaitis who was a star at Notre Dame but had so many knee injuries that he actually wound up staying in South Bend for 6 seasons! I am sure there are big differences between D1 and D3 but if someone can elaborate on this for me I would appreciate any information?
And oddly enough Jim Abromaitis, Tims father is the Athletic Director at Albertus!
If they apply for a redshirt, I don't see why he wouldn't get it. 2-3 games is well below the threshold in Division III (NCAA).
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on June 02, 2017, 01:23:32 PM
Maybe you can help me out here Dave.......
So last season Mason Jones who was a JUCO transfer with 2 full year of eligibility left broke his wrist during the preseason and only played in 2 maybe 3 games before re-injuring that same wrist, causing him to miss the rest of the season.
Does he lose that entire year of eligibility? Or is there someway he can get that year back considering the injury??
As a college hoops fan I cant help but to think of Tim Abromaitis who was a star at Notre Dame but had so many knee injuries that he actually wound up staying in South Bend for 6 seasons! I am sure there are big differences between D1 and D3 but if someone can elaborate on this for me I would appreciate any information?
And oddly enough Jim Abromaitis, Tims father is the Athletic Director at Albertus!
I like your Notre Dame reference. ;D
Just heard WPI is headed down to Magnus for a non-conference game in late November! Should be fun.
The GNAC is getting a new member for men's hoops in 2018-19.
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2017/06/st-joseph-adds-mens-sports
Quote from: gordonmann on June 29, 2017, 11:20:58 PM
The GNAC is getting a new member for men's hoops in 2018-19.
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2017/06/st-joseph-adds-mens-sports
That's in addition to Regis and Colby-Sawyer, who both come in the same year.
Interesting stuff! I guess its always a good thing to add teams to the conference. Although I think its easy to assume that St Joes CT will not be making any "noise" in terms of competition for at least the first couple of seasons.
Ryan, I remember reading an article posted on the GNAC website that said Regis was actually joining this school year 2017-18 with Colby Sawyer joining the following year 2018-19??
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on July 01, 2017, 09:36:16 AM
Interesting stuff! I guess its always a good thing to add teams to the conference. Although I think its easy to assume that St Joes CT will not be making any "noise" in terms of competition for at least the first couple of seasons.
Ryan, I remember reading an article posted on the GNAC website that said Regis was actually joining this school year 2017-18 with Colby Sawyer joining the following year 2018-19??
That might be true; I don't have time at the moment to double check.
Yes, that's correct.
Regis moves this year and Colby-Sawyer in 2018-19.
http://d3hoops.com/notables/2016/08/colby-sawyer-regis-join-GNAC
Nothing on the recruiting front from anyone in the GNAC?
Specifically Albertus???
I havent heard anything personally but thought there would be a little something here from another program perhaps??
I cant wait till November!!!
Breaking News: Albertus Magnus has added at least 4 new players for the 2017-18 season.
2 true freshmen & at least 2 "transfers(1- senior & 1- for junior & senior yrs.)
one a "monster" 4 or 5!!!!
Some question as to whether Mason Jones will return for this season!
STAY TUNED!
Great news Falcons25!
I heard that Mason Jones was back and enrolled for the year so lets hope thats true! I really want to see this kid play! I think some fans thought the hype was a little much for him last year but really we never saw a healthy Mason Jones take the court.
Any names on those recruits?? I figured Oliver would go his typical JUCO route, but couple those guys with what he has returning, I dont think they will be stopped this year in the GNAC. The other teams who typically challenge us lost quite a bit of talent and we already had the most depth and best team returning as it is even before new recruits commited for the upcoming season
Albertus Magnus has added a STUD POINT GUARD! Ajen English from Globe institute of Technology in N.Y.C. & Appoquinimink High School
in West Middletown, Delaware. (2012- High school) My guess is one year left...only a guess.
6-2 guard, scores outside & inside, built like Sledge!
Mason Jones will be on the team too! Liam & Aaron, our centers, are back also.
GO FALCONS- I can hardly contain myself!
Hey GNAC fans! It's been a while since my last post. It will be interesting to see these falcons play. But it will also be interesting to see who is on the roster and how long it takes them to jail. I am hoping that Jones is healthy and the young guys who played a major role last year come back. I guess we will learn more as pre-season begins.
Wow! Just did some digging on A'Jen English. His older brother is AJ English who was a 3X 1st team all MAAC player and one of the top scoring guards in the country at D1 Iona. Oliver clearly has an unbelivable connection with the Iona program and I have no doubts that this relationship led to landing A'Jen. He avergaged just under 25 PPG at D1 JUCO Globe Tech and it appeara to me that we can have his talents for 3 full seasons. This is outstanding news and I cant wait to see this kid play.
I plan on posting a little later on with my take on the rest of the roster.
Anyone have a name on the front court player that we have heard about? Im hearing he is a big time low block, back to the basket player???
Quote from: Falcons 25 on September 07, 2017, 05:02:07 PM
Albertus Magnus has added a STUD POINT GUARD! Ajen English from Globe institute of Technology in N.Y.C. & Appoquinimink High School
in West Middletown, Delaware. (2012- High school) My guess is one year left...only a guess.
6-2 guard, scores outside & inside, built like Sledge!
Mason Jones will be on the team too! Liam & Aaron, our centers, are back also.
GO FALCONS- I can hardly contain myself!
I can see Appoquinimink High School from my back window - although we moved here in May of 2012, so I don't know anything about English. I'll make sure to check him out, though.
Latest on Ajen English: Now I here that he can not play at least 1st semester.
Mason Jones is fine & will play!
Saints finally posted their new schedule for the upcoming season. I guess getting crushed twice by Johnson and Wales each year wasn't enough. Now the Saints scheduled JWU (FLA) for a New year's tournament. Good Luck.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on September 11, 2017, 10:54:09 AM
Saints finally posted their new schedule for the upcoming season. I guess getting crushed twice by Johnson and Wales each year wasn't enough. Now the Saints scheduled JWU (FLA) for a New year's tournament. Good Luck.
Um... yeah... so you I hope you are being tongue-in-cheek about this... because I wouldn't say the two school's programs are equal. LOL
http://northmiami.jwuathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2016-17/schedule
Albertus Magnus College men`s basketball schedule (2017-18) Highlights:
Falcons open with three straight home games starting on 11/18 against SWARTHMORE.
One week later is W.P.I. & then the BIG ONE, BABSON about 4 days later.
A.M.C. will also play at KEENE STATE on 12/5 & have a home tilt against SUNY- CANTON
on 2/13!
(Go to D3hoops.com & Teams & you`ll get their schedule!)
So, about 2 months to go! MIDNIGHT MADNESS anyone! (please schedule it this year!)
That's a nice strong non-conference scheduled assembled by Oliver.
However, I take it this schedule is not complete correct? By my count there are only 16 games listed so far and when you look at other schools via D3hoops.com under teams it appears to be that way for everyone else as well. Perhaps this is just a fraction of games as D3hoops just like all of us awaits the finalized schedules from the schools directly?
I am just spit balling as I have no idea how this works?
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on September 22, 2017, 07:43:02 AM
That's a nice strong non-conference scheduled assembled by Oliver.
However, I take it this schedule is not complete correct? By my count there are only 16 games listed so far and when you look at other schools via D3hoops.com under teams it appears to be that way for everyone else as well. Perhaps this is just a fraction of games as D3hoops just like all of us awaits the finalized schedules from the schools directly?
I am just spit balling as I have no idea how this works?
Some schools are in the Presto system (which is what we use) and go up automatically - other schools have SIDs who enter them. The rest we have to enter by hand. We're working on it. There's a lot of schools.
Understood! Thanks for the update Ryan!
Yes, that is an impressive three game set to start the season. Probably trying to get his team ready for those difficult GNAC conference games during the season!! I know that one player I saw play in high school from Boston plays for Swarthmore, but he only gets one or two minutes a game. AT 6'7" he was a big time scorer and rebounder when he played in the Boston HS league, not sure why those skills didn't translate into a better D-3 college career. He will probably start the game against Albertus in front of his home town crowd and then sub out early in the half. Anyway, good luck in those games, the rest of the GNAC will be watching to see how you do against ranked teams.
Swarthmore is ranked Preseason #9 in the country! Babson is last year`s #1 & I`m sure W.P.I. isn`t going to be easy!
Kudos to St. Joes- West Hartford for hiring Coach Calhoun. He will have an impact on recruiting immediately. (2018)
Any word on new Falcon players? (UNDER 2 MONTHS TO GO!)
Wow!!! Looks like the entire schedule has been released via the way Falcons25 suggested through D3hoops.com
Another HUGE non conference matchup as the Falcons will travel to Middlebury College to take on the Panthers January 16th at 7PM! A Tuesday night game up in Vermont! This is not something the Falcons do often as I would imagine they would have to stay over following the game considering just how far a drive it is.
These games will only help the Falcons prepare for the rigors of the postseason and it is hands down Oliver's best non conference schedule that he has ever assembled. This type of non conference schedule is one that if you can pull off a few quality wins will certainly get them consideration for the first time ever as a potential Pool C (at large) bid come seasons end if they do by chance slip up in the GNAC.
New to D3 help me out. Compare the top of the GNAC to the middle of the NESCAC. Are they comparable? I am posting this also on the NESCAC part, just trying to get my bearings.
It really depends on the year; but the middle of the NESCAC usually is better than the top of the GNAC. The GNAC is a one bid conference; the only team going to NCAAs is the school that wins the conference tournament. The NESCAC by comparison is a conference that has sent as many as 5 institutions to the NCAAs. I would think that the GNAC will come down to top teams; the middle teams will all be below average regional teams.
A last minute coaching move in the GNAC: https://hoopdirt.com/hot-diii-dirt-mt-idas-davis-headed-dartmouth/ (https://hoopdirt.com/hot-diii-dirt-mt-idas-davis-headed-dartmouth/)
Very much looking forward to the upcoming season for the Falcons.
This team returns a ton of talent and of course Oliver added some pieces like usual that will no doubt propel this team as a favorite to capture yet another GNAC Championship.
This years schedule is the strongest ever assembled under Oliver and playing teams like Swathmore, Babson, Middlebury will only prepare this team more for the rigors of postseason play.
I will post a more later on the schedule and team as well as what I think our chances might be going forward this year!
GNAC ALERT: Albertus Magnus College men`s basketball opener is AT SWARTHMORE on 11/18/17 @ 6pm.
(National Prep School showcase is AT A.M.C. on the same weekend!)
SO, the first home game is on 11/25/17.
Falcon fans: The men`s & women`s basketball schedules are up on the Albertus Magnus College website!
Now for the ROSTER! (Dream on!)
W.P.I. @ HOME on 11/25/17! See ya Then!
New Player alert for Albertus Magnus College:
Marquise Owens- 5`, 11" guard- played at Reno Prep(Nevada) last year.
From West Deptford, N.J.- played for West Deptford High in 2015-16.
Averaged: 15 pts per game
3 assists per game
5 rebounds per game
3.5 steals per game
Point guard, who can penetrate & hit the step back J.
He should have 3 years at A.M.C.
Great updates Flacons25. You must have a nice connection to the team!
I heard through the grapevine that Oliver returned almost everyone from last years batch of freshman with the 2 exceptions being Jesse McIntosh and Pedro Marquez.
Thats great news considering the size of that class and the talent they have returning. Liam Perryman, Damian Grant and Jahmerikah Green Younger are the sophomores that stick out the most, not to mention the upper classmen like JQ Walters, Big E Langston and Ryan Pittman. Couple that with the recruits and transfers that Oliver has brought in and this team has a chance at being extremely well balanced and efficient. It just might be the deepest team he has had in his time at the helm of the Falcons. Some folks may disagree with me on this but if you look at position by position there is clearly depth at every spot like we have never had before.
As I have said, the schedule that Oliver has comprised for this year will only help this team going forward in the season. Come GNAC Tourney time they will truly be battle tested and that is something that I think is a huge factor in the growth and development of a team as a season progresses, regardless of how many upper or lower classmen you have. As stated, without question the best non conference schedule every put together by the Falcons.
Hey Junkie, according to my sources, the Cardinal Hayes flash, Pedro Marquez, is back & ready to burn!
Look for vast improvement from J. Green-Younger, he is in great shape & also ready to burn!
Too, Mason Jones is 100% healthy & you guessed it....READY TO BURN!!!!
Falcons25.....more good news!!
Do you have a name on the "big" that was brought in this season. I heard we got a 6'9 transfer that was recruited out of high school to play D1 and then went the JUCO route?? Apparently he is on the team. I just haven't been able to get a name yet.
Quote from: Falcons 25 on October 23, 2017, 05:20:03 PM
Falcon fans: The men`s & women`s basketball schedules are up on the Albertus Magnus College website!
Now for the ROSTER! (Dream on!)
W.P.I. @ HOME on 11/25/17! See ya Then!
You'll be lucky if you get the roster up by the afternoon of the day of the first game. Western is notoriously slow on the roster updates, but that could be understood with football. I remember 1 year the first look I got at the Western roster was the program for that days game.
Quote from: 7express on November 02, 2017, 03:14:07 AM
Quote from: Falcons 25 on October 23, 2017, 05:20:03 PM
Falcon fans: The men`s & women`s basketball schedules are up on the Albertus Magnus College website!
Now for the ROSTER! (Dream on!)
W.P.I. @ HOME on 11/25/17! See ya Then!
You'll be lucky if you get the roster up by the afternoon of the day of the first game. Western is notoriously slow on the roster updates, but that could be understood with football. I remember 1 year the first look I got at the Western roster was the program for that days game.
Put the program manager on your contact list. ::)
Albertus Magnus men`s & women`s rosters will be up on their web site no later than November 10th.
(Per S.I.D.)
If I get any more information on the men`s roster, I`ll post it a.s.a.p.!
Quote from: Falcons 25 on November 02, 2017, 03:04:46 PM
Albertus Magnus men`s & women`s rosters will be up on their web site no later than November 10th.
(Per S.I.D.)
If I get any more information on the men`s roster, I`ll post it a.s.a.p.!
Just an FYI - I wanted to look into AMC for the preseason Top 25. I know they were asked for voter information, but did not respond. So, not having any information on their website further hampered my efforts. That said, I saw what they lost and decided I would patiently wait to see what they produced this season.
Finally got the name of our new PF/C. Amir Maddred, a 6'8 load from NJ. Was told he weighs 240+ and is a very skilled back to the basket low block player. Between him, Liam Perryman (6'9) Aaron Fox (6'9) JQ Walters (6'6) and Damian Grant (6'6) this is easily the biggest and probably most skilled fromt court that Oliver has ever had in his time at Albertus. We all know he always has outstanding guard play and backcourt scoring. Pair that with this front line and this could be an exciting year for the Falcons. Looking forward to next Saturday! Anyone know if Swarthmore provides a webcast of their games? And if so do they provide play by play commentary as well?
Wow. That's some serious D3 size for Albertus Magnus. Sounds like they'd match up with Williams. Check out their roster; they're huge.
Looking forward to seeing AB in Vermont this season. Should be a great match up.
Junkie, I just heard Albertus Magnus played Coast Guard @ home Saturday morning. (11/4/17)
No Idea if they kept score or how anyone did.
In addition to Amir Maddred, I believe A.M.C. also landed his brother Jamil (6' 5", 190 lb. swingman) who last played at Marshalltown Community
College in Iowa. (averaged- 7 pts per game) Both were from Camden, N.J.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on November 05, 2017, 04:21:26 PM
Finally got the name of our new PF/C. Amir Maddred, a 6'8 load from NJ. Was told he weighs 240+ and is a very skilled back to the basket low block player. Between him, Liam Perryman (6'9) Aaron Fox (6'9) JQ Walters (6'6) and Damian Grant (6'6) this is easily the biggest and probably most skilled fromt court that Oliver has ever had in his time at Albertus. We all know he always has outstanding guard play and backcourt scoring. Pair that with this front line and this could be an exciting year for the Falcons. Looking forward to next Saturday! Anyone know if Swarthmore provides a webcast of their games? And if so do they provide play by play commentary as well?
The Centennial (and a bunch of other conferences) now have a Roku channel - you can watch the game on your TV.
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 06, 2017, 06:18:34 AM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on November 05, 2017, 04:21:26 PM
Finally got the name of our new PF/C. Amir Maddred, a 6'8 load from NJ. Was told he weighs 240+ and is a very skilled back to the basket low block player. Between him, Liam Perryman (6'9) Aaron Fox (6'9) JQ Walters (6'6) and Damian Grant (6'6) this is easily the biggest and probably most skilled fromt court that Oliver has ever had in his time at Albertus. We all know he always has outstanding guard play and backcourt scoring. Pair that with this front line and this could be an exciting year for the Falcons. Looking forward to next Saturday! Anyone know if Swarthmore provides a webcast of their games? And if so do they provide play by play commentary as well?
The Centennial (and a bunch of other conferences) now have a Roku channel - you can watch the game on your TV.
That is great news Ryan. Thanks
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 06, 2017, 06:18:34 AM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on November 05, 2017, 04:21:26 PM
Finally got the name of our new PF/C. Amir Maddred, a 6'8 load from NJ. Was told he weighs 240+ and is a very skilled back to the basket low block player. Between him, Liam Perryman (6'9) Aaron Fox (6'9) JQ Walters (6'6) and Damian Grant (6'6) this is easily the biggest and probably most skilled fromt court that Oliver has ever had in his time at Albertus. We all know he always has outstanding guard play and backcourt scoring. Pair that with this front line and this could be an exciting year for the Falcons. Looking forward to next Saturday! Anyone know if Swarthmore provides a webcast of their games? And if so do they provide play by play commentary as well?
The Centennial (and a bunch of other conferences) now have a Roku channel - you can watch the game on your TV.
Roku, Amazon Fire, dealer's choice for almost any conference that has a conference-wide deal with Stretch. Also others who have deals with other streaming partners. I found what I think was nearly half the DIII divisions on Amazon Fire plus some individuals.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 06, 2017, 10:46:10 AM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 06, 2017, 06:18:34 AM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on November 05, 2017, 04:21:26 PM
Finally got the name of our new PF/C. Amir Maddred, a 6'8 load from NJ. Was told he weighs 240+ and is a very skilled back to the basket low block player. Between him, Liam Perryman (6'9) Aaron Fox (6'9) JQ Walters (6'6) and Damian Grant (6'6) this is easily the biggest and probably most skilled fromt court that Oliver has ever had in his time at Albertus. We all know he always has outstanding guard play and backcourt scoring. Pair that with this front line and this could be an exciting year for the Falcons. Looking forward to next Saturday! Anyone know if Swarthmore provides a webcast of their games? And if so do they provide play by play commentary as well?
The Centennial (and a bunch of other conferences) now have a Roku channel - you can watch the game on your TV.
Roku, Amazon Fire, dealer's choice for almost any conference that has a conference-wide deal with Stretch. Also others who have deals with other streaming partners. I found what I think was nearly half the DIII divisions on Amazon Fire plus some individuals.
That's great Dave! More good news.
Food for thought......do you think because of the way things are so easily streamed now that this technology could perhaps attract more fans to D3Sports?
What a platform to promote. I dont think the numbers will explode but if it was promoted in anyway, then maybe more casual fans will take notice of this level and gain more credibility on the national scale??
I'd love to hear your thought on this Dave or Ryan??
I absolutely feel things like this can attract a bigger audience and appreciation for Division III athletics. It is the reason I have been a proponent, and even consultant, for schools to start or upgrade their web streaming capabilities (on campus, not necessarily streaming partner). Too many schools have taken this as a "bonus" item or something that is gravy to the bigger picture when in reality web streaming and such is the thing that can help all kinds of things including recruiting, recognition, even highlights on local TV possibly (without sending out a camera). It is also the reason I am against PPV of ANY kind and the efforts to hide games after they have been played (meaning, you can only watch them live). They only hurt the school, the conference, the region, the sport, and the division. Making them PPV is the first turn-off for many and the idea of charging parents and others money to view their loved ones is ridiculous to me. To also then hide the games and force people only to see them live is petty and short-sighted (usually by coaches) that also only hurts all the ones I mentioned earlier.
This is all good for the larger division. As an entity, D3sports.com, it takes away one of the things we did very well and brought to the public... but that is how things evolve. We may have been the first to audio-stream and then video-stream games no one could hear or see, but now that everyone is doing it to some degree, we will find other ways to contribute.
Hey Falcons fans: It looks like the AMC roster IS up, you just have to change the date in the link to 2017-18 instead of 2016-17.
Here it is: http://athletics.albertus.edu/sports/mbkb/2017-18/roster
Mercy, A.M.C. got Tyreek "Freak" Perkins AND Jarron Chapman! Both CT All State players & immediate impact players.
Chapman can "throw down" like Tavon Sledge(similar game) Perkins was the best guard in the state while at Career, inside & out!
This season can not start soon enough.
Still lurking guys! Being so far out from actually attending and not living that close I've lost my own connects but definitely still follow along and your guys info certainly makes it easier!
Just wondering how you know about Jarron Chapman Falcon? Is he a late addition? He's not on the roster linked by 7. I'm an NVL guy so the name immediately jumped out at me.
Good to hear from you LilDave
I was wondering that myself on Chapman??? Perhaps the roster isn't complete yet and Falcons25 has more inside information. Maybe he was a late addition? We all know Oliver is known for pulling guys out of the nowhere and getting them started right away. I actually find that to be one of his best coaching traits. He really knows how to get guys recruited, enrolled, and in the program. I suspect his experience at the D1 level as a top assistant probably gave him exceptional knowledge in dealing with these situations. I was told by many that while the head coaches go out and recruit there players, a lot of the paperwork and following through trickles down to the assistants. Makes total sense, I think we can all agree that guys like Jim Calhoun, Jim Boehiem, Coach K and others arent the ones going to the registrars or finacial aids offices at these programs and making sure Johnny has his paperwork in on time! That job belongs to the assistants. Pardon my french but whats the expression again??? "**** rolls downhill"??? LOL
Can't wait till next Saturday! Once the roster is officially posted I plan on posting my thoughts on the AM season and the GNAC as a whole!!
Jarron Chapman was on the roster yesterday(11/6/17) & not on it today(11/7/17)?
He starred @ Monroe Junior College Mustangs last year. Here yesterday; GONE TODAY!!
I`ll "stand down" until the S.I.D. puts the "official" roster up Friday!
Haven't been able to read all the posts, by very excited for this upcoming Falcons season. Spoke to someone VERY close to the team a month ago, and was told that Oliver has a mid year guy coming in by the name of Ajen English. Brother of AJ English formally of Iona. Said he'll be here mid year, watch out if he is
Just went back and saw that Ajen English was already mentioned. I was told he will be here mid year, and will EASILY be the best player, talent wise, to ever suit up for albertus
Hey Ferraro13, Falcons25 did mention A'Jen earlier in the post. I was told that he was recruited by a number of Division I schools out of high school but had some troubles off the court that required him to take some time off. Either way I have also heard that he is hands-down the most talented recruit that Oliver has been able to secure. Which is really saying something considering some of the talent that he has had over his years with Albertus. All Americans Ray Askew and Big Vic come to mind as well as Darius Watson, Eian Davis Tavon Sledge, Waden St Juste and a few others. If this kids talent is in fact superior to all the above, then it really coiuld be a special year for the Falcons with the host of talent they already have returning.
Yes I saw he was mentioned, sorry about that. But he'll be a mid year guy from my understanding. He was recruited by Virginia, V tech, Marquette, Xavier, James Madison, etc. off the court problems have kept him from any of those programs. Here's to hoping he's on campus come January
Quote from: Ferraro13 on November 11, 2017, 12:40:11 PM
Yes I saw he was mentioned, sorry about that. But he'll be a mid year guy from my understanding. He was recruited by Virginia, V tech, Marquette, Xavier, James Madison, etc. off the court problems have kept him from any of those programs. Here's to hoping he's on campus come January
English is from the town in which I live. I asked around a bit after his name came up (he graduated before we moved here). Off court issues is putting it nicely. I sincerely hope he's figured those things out and matured. I want everyone to have the best chance at success and I'm glad for d3 teams who facilitate that. AMC has had its share of difficult pasts come through and behavior hasn't always been what anyone would want - however, I don't recall any off-court issues with anyone while at Albertus, so I've got great faith the program will handle theses situations responsibly.
Coach Oliver runs a no-nonsense program. Regardless if your the best or worst, he always treats everyone the same in terms of discipline. I have seem him bench his best players in times when they were really needed. He embraces the next man up philosophy. He is a coach who isnt affraid to give someone a second chance and for that, his players have always respected and loved playing for him. He runs a tight ship and whatever happened with A'Jen I am sure was addressed and Oliver has a plan for his success moving forward in the classroom and on the basketball court.
Look at his track record with All-Americans, All Northeast or GNAC honors......he has taken in and helped numerous kids who come from very difficult backgrounds and turned them into a success when other wouldn't "risk" the chance.
Here is to hoping A'Jen can join that group!
Quote from: Ferraro13 on November 10, 2017, 03:36:55 PM
Just went back and saw that Ajen English was already mentioned. I was told he will be here mid year, and will EASILY be the best player, talent wise, to ever suit up for albertus
So what year will English be, junior, senior? Are Perkins and Chapman freshmen?
Ahhh I sense Greek Tragedy is doing some D3 Fantasy prep perhaps?? 😃
I was informed that A'Jen is going to have 3 years of eligibility making him a sophomore. He played only one season of JUCO ball where he averaged over 20 PPG.
Perkins will be a freshman and if Chapman is in fact on the team I think he will be a junior.
JQ Walters and our new big Amir Maddredd are must drafts if I were you Greek! Sounds crazy but in Olivers system I think both just might have a legitimate shot at averaging a double double.
Saints posted their new roster. Same old stuff. Twelve new players this year, eight freshman and four transfers. Six non seniors from last year left the team. No telling how long these guys will hang around. How does a college program succeed with this kind of player retention ? No continuity from year to year. Well, actually there is no continuity during the season either, with 21 different starting lineups in 25 games. GNAC coaches will need to tear up the old scouting reports and start all over again. Let the games begin.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on November 12, 2017, 02:03:03 PM
Ahhh I sense Greek Tragedy is doing some D3 Fantasy prep perhaps?? 😃
I was informed that A'Jen is going to have 3 years of eligibility making him a sophomore. He played only one season of JUCO ball where he averaged over 20 PPG.
Perkins will be a freshman and if Chapman is in fact on the team I think he will be a junior.
JQ Walters and our new big Amir Maddredd are must drafts if I were you Greek! Sounds crazy but in Olivers system I think both just might have a legitimate shot at averaging a double double.
What? Fantasy leagues? What's that? No! LOL
Well, I took the bait hook, line and sinker. I added English and Perkins to my keeper league team, which means I get English for the next 2 1/2 years (comes in December) and Perkins for all 4 years. No idea who Maddredd is. Walters was already taken in the draft league.
Greek,
Keep in mind that A'Jen English wont be available until the second semester this year!
Albertus men`s & women`s rosters are up!! NO CHAPMAN (He was there)
Notable additions to the men`s roster: Haniff Bilal- played briefly for Winston-Salem State
was a great player @ Reynolds High School in North Carolina- career interrupted by a knee injury & personal
problems. His Brother, Yaya Bilal, is also on the team- a guard & not quite as good.
Tyreek Perkins is a STEAL- freshman out of Putnam Science & Career High in New Haven. Finally,
Amir Maddred is a transfer from Slippery Rock- D2 school- where he enjoyed some success.
He played @ Marshalltown C.C. in Iowa for 2 years & was quite good. We shall see!
Season starts this Saturday @ Swarthmore.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on November 13, 2017, 10:52:26 AM
Greek,
Keep in mind that A'Jen English wont be available until the second semester this year!
Yeah, I know. Our league scores the top 10 of 14, so he'll just be in the bottom four for the 5 scoring weeks that cover the 1st semester. If he's what you guys say he is, missing 5 weeks is worth it. It's a keeper league, so I get him for his junior and senior years too.
Just noticed some potential discrepancies among the heights listed and the team picture lol unless they're wearing different jerseys in the picture....
Back left, Brian Hardy is 20 and Amir Maddred is 21. Maddred is listed at 6'8 and Hardy 6'6. Hardy is clearly taller. Middle of the back row, Perryman is 34, JQ is 23, Aaron Fox is 22. Perryman is listed at 6'9, JQ is listed at 6'6, Aaron Fox is listed at 6'9. Fox isn't as tall as Perryman, and he's actually shorter than JQ in the picture!
Just did a double take and it's certainly possible the picture is old or they're wearing different jersey's. There's a number 2 in the picture but not one listed on the roster. So who knows haha
Slippery Rock has Amir Maddred at 6'7". So he's a senior for AMC?
http://www.rockathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=11643
LittleDave: Green-Younger is #2. Too, Amir is only 6`, 7", but can play. Brian Hardy - not so much!
AMC`s first opponent, Swarthmore, is playing on 11/15 & can be seen on video.
Hey guys, basketball is back!!!!! Nothing better than d3 hoops. I have been reading all the posts and I'll wait to evaluate the team after I get to see them a few times. Dave and Pat have always talked about building a tough out of conference schedule. Looks like Oliver was able to do that this year. I know that Jones came in last year with a lot of hype but didn't stay healthy. I am interested in seeing what he does this year. I was impressed with green-younger and grant. Hopefully a year under their belt will serve them well. Walters is walters; still think he will be first team gnac. Pittman needs to be more consistent: if these other guards are as good as advertised than he will do very well running the second unit.
Tough schedule: wins will be nice but I am not sure if they will win.. I want to see them be competitive. They weren't very competitive against Rochester or Babson or NJCU last year.
Quote from: lildave678 on November 13, 2017, 04:21:15 PM
Just noticed some potential discrepancies among the heights listed and the team picture lol unless they're wearing different jerseys in the picture....
Back left, Brian Hardy is 20 and Amir Maddred is 21. Maddred is listed at 6'8 and Hardy 6'6. Hardy is clearly taller. Middle of the back row, Perryman is 34, JQ is 23, Aaron Fox is 22. Perryman is listed at 6'9, JQ is listed at 6'6, Aaron Fox is listed at 6'9. Fox isn't as tall as Perryman, and he's actually shorter than JQ in the picture!
Just did a double take and it's certainly possible the picture is old or they're wearing different jersey's. There's a number 2 in the picture but not one listed on the roster. So who knows haha
Lildave678 - I'd be lying to you if I said I didn't look at that myself LOL
However if you look at Maddreds stance, his 2 feet appear to be spread out quite a bit making him appear shorted than he actually is. As for Fox, I can assure you that he is closer to Perryman and no doubt taller then JQ because I saw them both in person at games last year. I really think they purposely did this to appear smaller in the photo.
These are the sort of things that make me question my sanity!!! That we are actually breaking this down they way we are ;D
That being said, I LOVE IT!!! HAHAHA
Yeah, I find myself amused reading the posts analyzing a team photo!
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on November 14, 2017, 08:19:23 AM
Yeah, I find myself amused reading the posts analyzing a team photo!
Greek, We need something to keep ourselves amused until Saturday night at 6PM!!! Now that schedules are released and rosters are out the off season mysteries and question marks are all solved. All thats left is game 1 tipoff!
OK boys and girls, here is my take on the upcoming season for the Albertus Magnus Falcons.
Lets start with the starting five......
Ryan Pittman - Pretty easy and clear choice here as Ryan has improved every season he's been on campus. He's a hard nosed kid who plays with a chip on his shoulder. He might not be the most talented guard like what we have become accustomed to seeing but he is every bit as smart and savvy and a HIGHLY underrated shooter in my opinion . Not to mention he knows this offense as well as anyone on the team. I look for him to continue to improve this year and with the plethora of guards on the roster and a potential big time player in A'jen English arriving in January, I can only see this competition helping Ryan as the season carries on. Ryan is our PG and leader.
Mason Jones - Well, what can expect out of Mason Jones? This young man came in with huge expectations a season ago and unfortunately was never able to get healthy enough to really show off his talent and contribute. Yes he had a really bad few games, but let's remember he only played in five total games and clearly was not as "healthy" as he thought he was considering he missed the majority of the rest of the season following the January break. Everything I have heard so far points to him being healthy for the first time in two years. You don't simply average over 20 points per game and become a JUCO All American for nothing. This kid is clearly a superior D3 athlete and I look for him to get back on track this season and become an explosive player on this team.
Amir Maddred - He will be our starting power forward. Since this is his first year with the Falcons I don't want to assume too much. I simply have to go on what I have heard and that is that Amir is a very polished back to the basket low post player. With that, I think he will thrive in Olivers system. We have the type of athletes on the team that will free up a lot of opportunities for him on the low block with their abilities to drive to the hoop and pull up in the lane. I think expectations for him of 10 and 10 a night are not out of reach.
Liam Perryman - Without question the most improved player from a season ago to return to this team. From start to finish this young man's transformation as a center was really fun to watch. Was it ugly at times, sure. But from where he started to where he finished I really don't remember seeing a player improve so much in such a short period of time. At 6'9 he is an absolute load and force on the interior. I want him to improve his footwork and simply be an anchor on defense and a beast on the offensive glass. All in all we really don't need a ton of offensive production out of him. What we do need is a defensive star who can guard any big man and block shots so our guards and athletes can get out in transition and score the basketball.
JQ Walters - Had to save the best for last. He is the the heart and soul and returning conference player of the year and All-American. There's not much I can say about JQ that hasn't already been said. He's simply a special kid who is a phenomenal basketball player. He will continue to dominate like he always has and in his senior season he's going to play this year harder than ever. As a CT local product like a lot of the players on this team, I really believe that JQ wants to make and go on a deep run in the NCAA tournament for the school, his team and coach as well as the state of CT. And if he stays determined and focused, I really don't think anyone can stop him. The skill set he possesses at 6'6 and the motor he has is unmatched at this level. As JQ flies, so does the Falcons!
Key Reserves - I'm not going to get into specifics on each role player but they are....
Damian Grant, hopefully his overall strength and finishing ability improved in the off-season. Tremendous athlete, the pogo stick.
Jahmerikah Green-Younger - Outstanding shooter who will no doubt come off the bench and be a reliable shooter for us in any situation. Instant offense, the microwave!
Hanif Bilal - Brand new face to the team, don't know enough about him to pass judgment but the scouting report is that he's a shooter with good size and good ability. I don't have enough on him to give him a clever nickname yet!
Tyreek Perkins - Really good ball handler who can also stroke it when he gets hot. A true freshman who did a year of prep school at powerhouse Putnam Science Academy. He will no doubt get some run, just not sure how much at this time. Stealing the nickname he was given back during his days at Career in New Haven, Tyreek the Freak!
A'Jen English - Arriving in January and perhaps the most talked about recruit we've ever had. We have to wait and see but when you hear things like he was recruited by Marquette, Dayton and many other D1 programs, how can you not be excited??
Schedule - As mentioned, hands down the strongest schedule ever assembled by Coach Oliver. I look forward to seeing the SOS numbers and where Albertus sits on the list with a schedule like this. Let's say god forbid they do slip up in the GNAC tourney but they pull off a few wins against really good quality teams in their non conference schedule, would they be considered for a Pool C bid? Certainly possible, and I know it may be far too early to discuss this but is it really?? When our season opener is against the number 25 ranked team in the preseason poll?? I think not? 😀
Saturday will be a great true first test for this team. A road game close to 4 hours away against a formidable opponent and Conference POY and All American in Cam Wiley.
First games are always difficult but that is no excuse. The Falcons need to come out strong with a lot of energy. Hopefully they are getting a great week of practice in. They need to trust themselves and their Coach. If they do that and play as a team, then they will win not only this game but a lot of games this upcoming season.
LETS GO FALCONS!
Awesome pre-season review, Junkie! I agree with all of it, EXCEPT Amir isn`t starting just yet.
Look for J. Green-Younger to start & "FREAK" Perkins to be first off the bench in the first semester.
(No more 36 minutes per game for Ryan!)
Saturday can`t come soon enough! (Remember Swarthmore is on the computer tomorrow night-
so STRETCH yourselves.)
Respectfully disagree with you Falcons25......I think Oliver is going to go big and start Amir Saturday night. I see Green Younger coming off the bench and actually see him more suited for that role with this team.
We will see!!
I didn't get a chance to tune into the Swarthmore game last night but just checked the box score and they won big. I don't want to read to much into it because just glancing at the stats it looks like Hood struggled mightily with TO's and poor shooting? Perhaps this was influenced by the Swarthmore defense?? Again I did not watch directly so I can only speculate.
I have no doubts that we will present a tougher matchup for them come Saturday!
I watched the Swarthmore game last night. They are an intelligent, poised team that can shoot from anywhere if left open.
Not very athletic, but they stay within themselves & play great defense. (no second shots!)
O`Dell is their key big & Cam Wiley runs the point & is excellent.
WAY TO VICTORY FOR A.M.C.-
1. OUTREBOUND THEM DEFENSIVE BOARDS.
2. FASTBREAK THEM to DEATH!
3. PRESS THEM- various (Full court & half)
GET THEM OUT OF THEIR HALF COURT GAME!
GO FALCONS!!!
I watched the game also; they are very disciplined defensively. They have really good shooters as well. Felt as if they made 40 3s; the guard runs the offense and has a great shot but looks to hit his wide open shooters. I don't know enough about this Albertus team to know if they have a shot to be competitive. Last year team struggled with perimeter defense. If that continues this year Albertus loses on Saturday by double digits.
Not sure how good Hood is; they were disorganized on offense a lot and gave up a lot of wide open jump shots.
Albertus keys in my opinion are:
1. Hold them to 10 or fewer three pointers made
2. Win the battle of the boards
3. Hold them to under 80 points
1 MORE DAY! 1 MORE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saints start the season 0 - 2 after traveling to the Roger Williams tip off tournament. Saints got crushed in the first game by a good RWU team 75 - 58, and lost the consolation game to a mediocre Frammingham State team, 74- 62. Saints new starting line up looks like three guards, a small forward, and a power forward. They will have trouble with teams that have athletic posts and quick point guards. Saints game plan appears to be the same again this year, run wild with a defensive rebound, jack up a lot of three's, and full court press if they make a shot. Teams that have a good press break and can get to the rim off the bounce will give the Saints a lot of trouble this year. Don't see the Saints in the top four of the GNAC this year unless they suddenly start making a lot of three point shots, which is unlikely against good defensive teams. Let's get at least one win before Christmas so most of the players will return after semester break.
Albertus Magnus Vs Swarthmore game short & sweet analysis:
!. TERRIBLE CENTER Play By Amir & Liam- THREE REBOUNDS BETWEEN THEM.
Team outrebounded by : 14!! (46 to 32)
2. Bad overall Defensive effort: Swarthmore shot 51% from the floor & 39% from 3-point land.
3. SIX TEAM ASSISTS!!! & of course a terrible shooting percentage (20% from Three!)
Good points: Ryan Pittman had a great game- 19 points & NO TURNOVERS in 40 minutes !
Mason Jones- 18 points, but TOO MANY TURNOVERS!
J. Walters- yeoman work @ 21 & 9 Pts. & rebounds.
Missing in Action: Aaron Fox & J. Green-Younger? (Did not play!)
Next game: W.P.I. @ THE NEST 3pm This Coming Saturday
(With New Haven Refs. which should Help!!)
Being outrebounded by Swarthmore by 14 is actually pretty good. They led the country in rebound margin last year.
I thought Albertus played pretty well considering it was the first game of the season.
We need to remember that it is going to take time for guys like Maddred, Perkins and Bilal to get comfortable with playing in a new enviorment and new team.
All the credit has to go to Swarthmore, they were an outstanding team and Cam Wiley was as good as advertised. I actually thought the defensive effort was there for the Falcons, the big issue was rebounding. Maddredd got into foul trouble almost right away and that really limited him for the rest of the night. Perryman did absolutley nothing but I suspect he will continue to improve, just like he did all of last season. Swarthmore's two bigs were both excellent players who crashed the boards and new how to finish inside. There guards also did an outstanding job banging the boards.
I wont speak on the officiating because since I wasnt present at the game and only watched online, I find it hard to justify griping what you dont see in person. That said, foul trouble really hurt both Maddred and Walters, perhaps they were justified, perhaps not but they need to clean this up.
If you compare this years team to last years team I think this team has more overall balance and depth. However, where was Jahmerikah Green Younger?? The one glaring difference that I noticed compared to last years team was that we didnt have a guy in this game like Devin Coleman or Grant Ellis that I felt could come down and bang a three in someones face when we needed to stop a run or go on a run ourelves. Something to watch going forward, lets hope Jahmerikah is healthy or at the very least still on the team because I felt like he could be that guy for us this season.
TO's weren't really an issue. We had 9 in total and for a 40 minute game against a team like Swarthmore that is very good. I think it might have appeared worse because a few of them came in the second half and Swarthmore did a great job in converting and scoring off those turnovers. Again, it was all about rebounding and second chance points.
Ryan, I completley agree with you that being outrebounded by this team is OK, but 14 is still quite a few and with the athletes and size upfront that Albertus has, I expected them to compete more on the glass than what they did.
Player of the game has to go to Ryan Pittman, hands down the most underappreciated player on the Falcons. He played exremely well and deserves a lot of credit for his hustle and overall play.
Not worried about this team at all going forward. I think we are going to be just fine and come seasons end we will be a legitmate team and contender. If we play this Swarthmore team 10 times, 5 away and 5 at home I think we split right down the middle! A great opponent sure, but unbeatable? I think not.
And lets not forget about the arrival of A'jen English as well for the second half!
If someone gets wind of what happened to Jahmerikah, please update the board!!! WPI next Saturday at THE NEST!! Should be a great home opener!
Griping about officials isn't something you can do when you play the aggressive style Albertus does. Some games will get called tighter and you have to learn and adjust. Everybody does.
"aggressive style" of play? When I grew up THAT was basketball. Taking the game away from the players is doing an injustice to
all the players.
That said, teams that play "aggressive", have to see & adjust to the unfortunate reality of some of the officiating today.
Finally, in the Albertus vs Swarthmore game officiating did not cost A.M.C. the game. Factors within their control did &
I am sure they will be addressed by Coach Oliver.
I know I am not an Elite Mind of the GNAC or AMC, but Swathmore is one of the best teams in the nation who already had one game under their belt and less moving parts going into this year than it appears AMC had. I think the Falcons will be just fine come Feb!
Sidenote: This Swathmore teams is FUN!
Quote from: Falcons 25 on November 19, 2017, 10:29:09 AM
"aggressive style" of play? When I grew up THAT was basketball. Taking the game away from the players is doing an injustice to
all the players.
That said, teams that play "aggressive", have to see & adjust to the unfortunate reality of some of the officiating today.
Finally, in the Albertus vs Swarthmore game officiating did not cost A.M.C. the game. Factors within their control did &
I am sure they will be addressed by Coach Oliver.
That's the way I like to play basketball, too, but part of it is knowing what the officials are calling and adjusting. You just can't complain about officiating unless its inconsistent - and it wasn't in that game.
I will paraphrase story from the new DIII men's basketball referee coordinator who refereed in all three divisions including a lot of big time games in DI (Jim Haney)... when he officiated Duke games, Coach K and his staff always used the first timeout of the game (usually the media break) to immediately tell their team how the game was being officiated and what adjustments they as a team and as individuals had to make. It seems so obvious, but I am amazed by how many coaching staffs rather complain about officiating than help their teams adjust.
Per the conversation about "aggressive play" being called... that's the rules. It isn't new. We have been talking about it for years. I have never minded some contact, but the game has moved from very physical (too physical) in the 80s and 90s (primarily in the NBA) back towards less physical and now back towards extremely physical especially in college. It feels more like street ball where the foul is only called if there is blood (being sarcastic).
Coaches, administrators, etc. in the NCAA in conversations with the National Association of Basketball Coaches have decided to take a lot of the unneeded physicality out of the game and trying to free up the offenses so we don't have ugly games of the past. Those are the rules and the directives. Complaining about them doesn't do a bit of difference. Adjust accordingly or sit out for too many fouls.
I will add, the new coordinator of officials will eventually make a huge impact in making the game a bit more universally called across the country. I truly look forward to that.
Great News on Monday morning! Endicott beat Babson by 10 @ "THE DAM"!
A.M.C. will be ready & "THE NEST" will be rocking! (11/29)
W.P.I. next up on 11/25 @ 3pm @ "THE NEST"!
GO FALCONS!!!
There is a big, very big, difference between calling aggressive fouls, and calling touch fouls. Calling aggressive fouls keeps the game under control and allows talented players freedom of movement. Calling touch fouls ruins the flow and rhythm of the game, and directly effects the outcome. Some experienced officials are very good at understanding the difference between aggressive fouls and touch fouls, and other officials just don't get it and call every touch a foul. Officials discuss this fine balance between keeping the game under control and allowing a natural rhythm and flow to develop before the game, but once touch fouls are called they cannot be undone and taken off the board. Most coaches actually talk to their players twice about the way the game is being called, once in the first half and again early in the second half, because the officials also talk at half time about the flow of the game, and sometimes it changes. The best situation to hope for is to get a set of experienced officials working your game.
Thank you, St.Paul, you explained the inconsistency in officiating games perfectly! Now, maybe someone will listen!
Quote from: Falcons 25 on November 21, 2017, 11:17:09 AM
Thank you, St.Paul, you explained the inconsistency in officiating games perfectly! Now, maybe someone will listen!
Except those "touch" fouls are fouls. They've been part of the rules for more than a decade. It's not like some refs call them and others don't. Each game is unique. Players have to adjust. Saying it's soft or weak is just living in the past.
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 21, 2017, 11:27:49 AM
Quote from: Falcons 25 on November 21, 2017, 11:17:09 AM
Thank you, St.Paul, you explained the inconsistency in officiating games perfectly! Now, maybe someone will listen!
Except those "touch" fouls are fouls. They've been part of the rules for more than a decade. It's not like some refs call them and others don't. Each game is unique. Players have to adjust. Saying it's soft or weak is just living in the past.
Ryan, I disagree completely. Some refs do call every single foul and for every one of those refs there is another referee that is much more lenient. That's just a fact.
That is exactly what concerns me most when it comes to officiating. From region to region, game to game its the lack of consistency across the board that is most disturbing, not simply the number of fouls called on each team. Let hope having a national D3 referee coordinator will clean these things up.
With all this being said, I feel like I am responsibly for this back and forth because of what I said in my post game recap from Saturday night. I did not want it to come off this way. I used the word "gripe" which I think might have been misinterpreted. Again to state, I wasn't even at the game and didn't have the opportunity to watch as much as I would have like to. I just noticed that Maddredd and Walters struggled with fouls which limited them as players and obviously Albertus as a team. Like I said, were some justified? Probably so....
So "touch" fouls have been the one coaches and others have wanted called tougher for several years now. We have to stop complaining about it. That is what coaches want in the rules even if they complain (which cracks me up). The NCAA doesn't make these rules, adjust them, or decide what should be emphasized. Mainly coaches do it.
Yes, refs are inconsistent... just like the strike zone in baseball, pass interference and holding in football, etc., etc., etc. Welcome to the human element. We have to stop complaining about it and understand this is how it works. We can strive towards a bit more consistency, but no two human being sees things in the exact same way every single time - especially when the refs are in different positions on the floor.
Now to your concern about region to region, game to game... my point about the new coordinator of officials should be taken to heart. Jim Haney's job is multi-faceted, but one of the items on his list is to become more consistent region to region, conference to conference, game to game. Better evaluated, educated, teach, and guide officials while also making sure they understand their job is now being looked at not only by the coaches in games, but by evaluators, and the by someone at the national level. If refs want to move up to higher divisions or get bigger paydays by coaching conference and NCAA tournament games, they will need to get more consistent and call the game the way it is expected to be called.
It isn't going to happen overnight, but I am very confident that starting this year we are starting to see a more consistent game being called. That will also mean that players, coaches, and fans are going to have to get used to things in the past being called (or not called) per the old norm. If handchecking is allowed in Conference A and wrestling is allowed in Conference B, both conferences better get used to neither being allowed in the future. It will result in more griping, but back to the point: players need to adjust, coaches need to help their teams adjust, and fans need to understand how the refs are being asked to call the games. If touch fouls, illegal screens, pushing off, grabbing, etc. are being asked to be called more stringently, we have to stop griping about when they are called.
Saints shuffle the starting line up, going with four guards, and come up with a much needed win over Curry College, 76 - 70. Had a feeling the Saints might grab a win tonight, Curry has only one win in the last two years. The game was back and forth, with both teams trading 12 point runs. Saints had a 1 point lead in the last two minutes and came up with two big defensive stops, forcing Curry turnovers. Two sets of free throws and the game was in the bag. Turnovers and poor shooting kept the Saints from putting this one away early. Always nice to get that first win of the season before Christmas break.
Should be a great first home game today for the Falcons. WPI has always been a well coached and respected team. A little home cooking is always needed after a hard fought loss against a great team in Swarthmore last week. That loss is already behind us! Lets hope for a more complete game from our front court today!
Albertus wins in a close one.....86 to 77
Great, hard-fought victory today in O.T. against a game W.P.I. squad!
Mason Jones w/26 pts. & J. Walters w/25 pts. paced the Falcons.
Yeoman game for our fine point guard, Ryan Pittman. (numbers aside,
he plays hard all the time!)
CENTER POSITION: Thank God for Erick Langston- 11 rebounds!
Liam & Amir- 2 rebounds between them in 25 minutes of "play".
Gutsy win....BABSON THIS WEDNESDAY....FILL THE NEST, STUDENTS!!!!!
Congrats Magnus. Great game beteen 2 good (young) teams.
Very good early season game between two teams still trying to find themselves. Good win for the falcons; let's keep it going! Didn't see much of the game, was watching michigan get beat again in a big game.
There should also be some thanks to those refs. The FTs that tied it up for OT were definitely a gift. Dude took three steps before he even drew contact. The ref made the right call for his position, but one of his partners should've helped him out. That's what happens in basketball sometimes. Good effort to come back and win, though. Good to see, especially when the big guys weren't performing great.
Great to see a game called FAIRLY! Nice to see you watching our game though. Please come in person
and enjoy our "NEST'.
Quote from: Falcons 25 on November 26, 2017, 09:50:15 AM
Great to see a game called FAIRLY! Nice to see you watching our game though. Please come in person
and enjoy our "NEST'.
I'm pretty sure he lives in Delaware or someone in the Mid Atlantic Region and has a fairly young kid, so probably tough for him to get up this way.
Quote from: 7express on November 27, 2017, 02:01:00 PM
Quote from: Falcons 25 on November 26, 2017, 09:50:15 AM
Great to see a game called FAIRLY! Nice to see you watching our game though. Please come in person
and enjoy our "NEST'.
I'm pretty sure he lives in Delaware or someone in the Mid Atlantic Region and has a fairly young kid, so probably tough for him to get up this way.
I've driven by the campus a few times on the way to see family, but the timing hasn't worked out well. I should note, in the "teams who didn't get any votes pre-season, but might be in the Top 25 at the end of the year" contest, I took AMC. I'm not crapping on the team, just trying to keep you all honest. Shoot, I can see Ajen English's high school out my back window.
Hoops fan, for those of us who have not seen much or any of English on the court. What can of player is he? What does he do well?
Quote from: falcons2010 on November 27, 2017, 06:56:57 PM
Hoops fan, for those of us who have not seen much or any of English on the court. What can of player is he? What does he do well?
I moved here the year after he graduated, so I haven't seen him play. From what I hear a heck of a talent on the court, but trouble off it. As we've gone over here, hopefully he's had time to mature a bit and will be a great asset for you guys down the stretch. I know everyone around here is pulling for him.
We are all pretty excited to have him in New Haven. Hopefully he has matured; one thing that Oliver has done with these transfer kids is graduate them. Not to say that they are all matured but at least they are committed enough to earn a degree.
Any news on Green-Younger?
J.Green-Younger is on the team & NOT INJURED! Hopefully, he & the "Wilby Willow" aka Damien
get on the court Wednesday vs Babson.
Green Younger not eleigible till January. Heard the other night that he struggled in the classroom and won't be able to play until the second half. Very tough loss for the Falcons, he is an outstanding outside shooter and a reliable weapon that we could have used already in our first 2 games this season. Hopefully he learns that his grades are most important and he is not only hurting himself but his teammates as well.
He must have really conviced Oliver that he would work hard and change because typical once you screw up be it grades or off the court you are gone. Coach Oliver has a strong no nonsense policy and has always held everyone to the same standard regardless of what kind of player you are.
Very discouraging news on J.Green-Younger!
Albertus Magnus vs Babson- Keys to the game for the Falcons:
1. Get a Pulse out of Amir Maddred and Liam Perryman- rebounds, points, ANYTHING!!!!
2. Better ball distribution- TRUST EACH OTHER- 6-7 assists as a team, DOESN`T CUT IT!
3. TEAM DEFENCE- EVERY POSESSION!
4. REBOUND THE BALL!!!!
Saints were just overwhelmed by a long, athletic, Wesleyan team, 88 - 68. The Saints announcer had the best line of the night when he commented that this was a self inflicted loss. Every time the Saints would make a mini run at closing the gap, they would stop their own momentum with an unforced turnover or a missed point blank layup. The game plan was also self inflicted, full court pressing the quicker, taller Wesleyan team for the full forty minutes. The result of this strategy was eight transition dunks that broke open the game. One power forward for Wesleyan scored all ten of his points on dunks. He never had to shoot from farther away than two inches above the rim. Teams that tend to score a lot of points in the paint give the Saints a lot of trouble. Also, any team with a very good press break tends to score a bunch of points quickly against the Saints. Not sure why pressing a team that likes to run seems like a good idea.
Agree with your keys to the game completely Falcons25
This is a very big game for the Falcons. Babson has struggled early on this season and subsequently has dropped out of the Top 25 but lets kid ourselves here. This is still a very strong team who will no doubt compete for a NEWMAC title. I know Oliver wont be overlooking this team and I especially know that the returnees from last years Albertus squad want this game badly!
Fill the NEST!!!!!!!!!
SHOCKER IN NEW HAVEN:
ALBERTUS MAGNUS COLLEGE: 85
BABSON: 81
Falcons shot 55% from the floor & dominated on the boards (+7)
J.Walters took the Falcons home with 31 PTS. & 14 Boards.
Mason Jones a very solid 21 pts.
AMIR MADDRED, our center, chipped in w/10 pts.& 5 boards!!!! WAY TO GO, BIG GUY!
Erick Langston, our Heart & Soul Guy, w/ 9 pts.& 5 boards!
Ryan Pittman: wins the TOUGH GUY award with his tough defence down the stretch!
NEXT UP FOR FALCONS: Regis College @ THE NEST this Saturday!
Big time win for the Falcons last night!!
They came out slow and sloppy with way to many turnovers in the 1st half against a very good Babson team. As the game progressed, specifically in the second half they were able to cut down on those turnovers and really stepped it up on the defensive end. They did a great job of battling through some tough stretches of offense and did an even better job in responding to a number of good runs by Babson just as we began to cut into the lead. Ultimately we were able to grab the lead and keep it till the very end.
A highly entertaining game with a great crowd and atmosphere. JQ Walters was a one man wrecking crew in the second half. He essentially took the game over and went on a run where he simply could not be stopped.
I could go on and on but I will leave it at that for now.......Regis College, our new conference foe and first GNAC game of the season on Saturday, 3PM at the NEST!!!
Saints lose a home game to cross town rival Emerson, 95 - 81. Saints appear to be sticking with their traditional game plan of full court pressing more talented opponents. The Saints trap press held Emerson under 100 points tonight. The Saints continue to take quick shots from the perimeter early in the shot clock without the ball crossing the top of the key even once. Even the Saints game announcer started to question the Saints shot selection, when late in the second half with the Saints down by 14 points, he tells his listeners, " maybe taking quick three's one pass over half court is not the best way to get back into the game right now." I couldn't have said it any better. Meanwhile, at the other end of the court Emerson is running their offense with surgical precision, shooting lay ups and wide open three's. GNAC games start on Saturday.
TRAP GAME- ALBERTUS MAGNUS VS REGIS:
Regis has players very similar to AMC- they`ll run you to death if allowed.
V.Good offensive team. (rebounding a bit suspect)
Falcons need to be ready to play from jumpstreet!
DEFEND THE NEST!
Agree with you Falcons 25. Cant take any GNAC opponent lightly. Home court advantage is so important for us as a team and in the GNAC tournament.
Another note of Regis, they are very well coached. Nate Hager is a well respected coach in the region who always has his team prepared and ready to play.
Anyone know why Pittman didn't play? I didn't see the game but saw the box score.
Heard at the game that Ryan Pittman had a loss in his family and the services were this afternoon which is why he did not play. Best wishes to Ryan and his family. I am sure he will be back in action on Tuesday.
A nice win today on their homecourt fot the Falcons in their GNAC opener. Considering they didnt have their floor general in Ryan Pittman I thought the team played quite well. Couple bad possesions here and there but overall it was a relativley easy victory. Regis was not as impressive as I had hoped but they have some good athletes and I suspect they will be a much improved team as tbe season goes on.
Another great test coming up for the Falcons on Tuesday as they head to Keene State.
Saints lose opening GNAC game to Mt Ida, 103 - 99, in over time. Mt Ida is not as strong as they were last year. Mustangs are lacking in size, foot speed, and defensive intensity. Saints matched up very evenly with the Mustangs, both teams starting four guards and one forward. Neither team dominated the paint , but both teams liked to run with every rebound, and shoot a lot of threes. This game was back and forth all afternoon, neither team able to dominate, the difference was free throws in the over time period.
I saw the Albertus Game on the computer. They really missed Ryan, our floor general, especially in the first half.
One positive that I see, is they had 16 assists- 5 for Mason Jones & 5 for Tyreek Perkins!!! But considering they won by
30, that`s all I have.
Another great test Tuesday against the Owls of Keene State.
Huge game tonight for the Falcons. Playing on the road against another great opponent. This is another great nonconference game that will test our resolve and ability to win away from the Nest.
Keene State has always been a well respected team Within the region who will no doubt be competing for a LEC conference and tournament title this year. They feature great guard play. They are athletic and remind me a lot of our Falcons. Our front court is clearly stronger and more athletic but there guards can probably matchup against us as well as any team in the NE Region.
Looking forward to this one. Hopefully they have a good video feed with some audio as well!
Keene State dropped out of the Top 25. That said, their two guards (Wright & Harris?) are as good as
D3 New England gets! If Pittman & Jones match them, our "bigs" have an opportunity to win this game.
Amir & Liam(our "bigs") need to play like they did against Babson- rebounds, defense & 15 pts. between them
J.Walters will DO HIS THING & if so WE WIN!
Maybe then, Albertus will get noticed by the "stuffed shirts"!
Quote from: Falcons 25 on December 05, 2017, 10:19:45 AM
Keene State dropped out of the Top 25.
When was Keene state
in the Top 25 this year?
I'm guessing he looked at your ending poll for last season which had Keene State in the Top 25.
Quote from: Albertus2007 on December 05, 2017, 01:04:58 PM
I'm guessing he looked at your ending poll for last season which had Keene State in the Top 25.
They were there for sure... maybe he thinks receiving votes counts for being in the poll as well. :)
My Bad, Dave!!! Guess it was a New England Poll. Whatever.
Now for the REAL STUFF! (OWLS OVER FALCONS BY 11 Pts.)
J. Walters did his part with a MONSTER GAME.
Mason Jones, Amir Maddred & Liam Perrymen were a COLLECTIVE NO SHOW!!
Time to Play DAMIEN, MITCH!
NEXT GAME: THURSDAY @ NEW LONDON vs MITCHELL COLLEGE.
Falcons better show up ready to play or the Mariners will run them out of the Gym!
I wouldn't be too upset (upset, sure, because AMC did not look like they should) - Keene is a very good team. Lots of changing roles this year and some young contributors - they stumbled a bit early - but they're very good. Nothing to be ashamed of tonight.
Good luck to the Falcons moving forward! It was fun seeing them play for the first time given that I hadn't seen them before other than video or box scores. Have a good season! Even though I support Keene, I'll be following!
Saints lose at home to MIT 80 - 56. MIT has a really good team, I was surprised that the score was this close. It helped that for once the Saints did not try full court press this team. MIT has some really good three point shooters to go along with pin point passing that carved up the Saints zone defense all night long. MIT was either shooting lay ups or wide open three's. The MIT defense was also impressive, possibly the best man to man defense that I have seen so far this year. They held the Saints to 17 points in the first half and under 30 at the ten minute mark of the second half. Their on ball defense was intense without fouling, they closed out shooters correctly, on balance with hands high, and their baseline rotations were almost perfect. What really caught my eye was the MIT point guard, standing 6'6" tall but smooth as can be handling the ball or passing for lay ups. It will be interesting to see how the Saints bounce back from drubbing like this on Thursday against Wentworth.
Disappointing performance by the Falcons last night up at Keene State. They simply couldn't get themselves into any offensive rhythm and their effort just wasn't their consistently enough to come out and beat a team like Keene State.
This is one of those games that I think we have to bury and just move on from. As Ryan mentioned, Keene is a very good team and I wouldn't consider this a bad loss. I thought it was just unfortunate that they played so lackluster in a moment where they could have sent a message. I know this team will get better as we carry on throughout the season.
I look for a big bounce back performance on Thursday in New London against Mitchell College who has struggled this year to be consistent.
Was it something where they said we're going to let JQ get his and make life difficult for everyone else, or was everyone else just that bad? lol
LOL Lildave
JQ Walters was that damn good and everyone else was that horribly bad! It wasn't like a one man show were JQ was just taking everything. For the other it was simply not making shots and turning the ball over way to much.
I think it may have been the worst game I have seen Ryan Pittman play ever. He just had no energy like what we are used to seeing from him. That being said I completley give him a pass because of the type of player and kid he is. We have all mentioned it on here, he is an absolute warrior for us and I love the kid. Not to mention what he went through this past week with the passing of a close family member. I think we can all agree to give him a pass on this one. And I fully expect him to come out Thursday and play like we are all so used to seeing him play because that how he is. He knows he is better then what he showed last night!
From the Keene perspective, Walters showed himself to be a big time player last night. The Keene coaches commented that he looked like the best player in the region and he was virtually unstoppable on the offensive end. What I found impressive was that he did not force much. Due to the fact that his teammates were having an off night for whatever reasons, he took over the game in the second half. A total of six baskets for the rest of the AMC players pretty much tells the story. If any one or two of those other guys had had what I expect were their normal games the result might have been different.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the Pittman family for their loss.
December lost at Keene, a solid regional opponent isn't terrible. Many coaches, hopefully Mitch included, will use games like these to prepare for the conference games. I didn't see the game but looking at the box score, Albertus only hit 3 three pointers and attempted like 20. Just an off shooting night. Both teams committed a lot of turnovers and Albertus went to the line almost 30 times. The team has to find its way here over next 10 games. Especially if they will be incorporating 3 new faces. GNAC is still a one bid league; hopefully the team can be more consistent with the 3 ball going forward.
Good luck to Keene the rest of the way.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 05, 2017, 01:23:23 PM
Quote from: Albertus2007 on December 05, 2017, 01:04:58 PM
I'm guessing he looked at your ending poll for last season which had Keene State in the Top 25.
They were there for sure... maybe he thinks receiving votes counts for being in the poll as well. :)
Typical smug comment from Dave McHugh lol anyways, Keene State is a very good team and albertus has nothing to hang their heads on. Off night combine with a tough team makes for a loss
Smug? Just being accurate.
Saints shuffle the starting line up again and come up close but with no cigar. Saints lose to Wentworth 60- 56, in a sloppy game full of missed 3 point shots and turnovers. Both teams shot the ball poorly and did not take care of the basketball. I was wondering how the Saints would respond tonight after getting blown out by MIT on Tuesday, and I guess the answer was to force shots, force passes, and foul the opponents. In spite of the poor play, Saints still held a 47 -41 advantage with 6 minutes left in the game. Through a series of questionable shots and turnovers the Saints turned a six point lead into a four point loss very quickly to end the game. After not full court pressing MIT, I was hoping that a new game plan would emerge for the Saints the rest of the season. That hope was short lived, as the Saints came out pressing again against Wentworth. Wentworth was not shooting the lights out, there was no reason to press this team. Saints travel to J & W on Saturday, a team noted for running up the score against weaker opponents. If the Saints try to full court press that team it could be a forty point loss.
A.M.C.- 91
Mitchell- 81
Never a game! Albertus won this game based on a + 12 rebounding advantage, which covered for their
poor shooting % from the field.
Excellent games for: Ryan Pittman (23 pts.) & Amir Maddred (13 pts./ 5 rebounds)- excellent shooting %!!
J. Walters- 22 pts./24 rebounds!
A.M.C. has to RUN THEIR OFFENSE CONSISTENTLY to generate better movement w/o the ball & create opportunities
for better shots!!! Otherwise their shot selection, when they freelance is AWEFUL!
Hanif Balal started for Tyreek Perkins & I though did a credible job. Damien Grant, aka The Wilby Willow, played a lot
more tonight! Keep playing him, Mitch.
Next game: @ Norwich on Saturday @ 1pm. (Norwich is better, but this should not be a close game!)
FALCONS OVER CADETS!
Good points for the Falcons:
1. They won.
2. Rebounded well.
3. Big 3 had good games- Walters, Jones & Pittman.
Bad news for Falcons:
1. SIX TEAM ASSISTS! (4 by Perkins & ZERO by PITTMAN!!!)
2. CENTER POSITION IS A PROBLEM!! (despite 10/5 pts./rebounds for Amir Maddred!!!)
3. BALL MOVEMENT IS HORRIBLE! (RUN YOU OFFENSE)
New Jersey City vs Falcons on 12/16/17 at THE NEST! (They`re undefeated!)
Wild game in Rhode Island today as J&W defeat the Saints 76 - 69. Both teams came out full court pressing, which resulted in a lot of transition play, quick shots, lay ups, dunks, and very little defense. Saints tried to catch J&W by surprise with another new starting line up but it didn't work and the Wildcats jumped on the Saints 20 - 9 in the first 10 minutes of the game. J&W relaxed with the big lead and the Saints chipped away until the game was tied at halftime. J&W again exploded to start the second half but as they subbed the same thing happened, the Saints made a couple three's, a couple lay ups and were right back in the game 64 - 70 with 2 minutes to play. Saints had the ball down six points, and called time out. Saints came out of the time out, dribbled around trying to set up their play and the shot clock expired. Apparently, none of the Saints assistant coaches looked at the shot clock during the time out. A critical turn over at the wrong time. J&W looked long and athletic with a dominate big man in the paint, but their outside shooting was questionable. J&W scored most of their points either in transition or from offensive rebounds, not off set plays. Saints finish the first semester with a 1 - 8 record. At least they got that one win.
WOW! Jersey.City.State: 81
A.M.C. : 80
Falcons handed this game "giftwrapped" to Jersey City by missing 12 FREE THROWS!
Combined with 19 TURNOVERS, THAT was all she wrote!
Even with the above, it took a Trey at the buzzer to win. (It was a good hoop, but the guy was on the line....!)
Good points for the Falcons: 16 assists & balanced scoring.
Next game , after the Break, is home against an improved Suffolk University!
Quote from: Falcons 25 on December 16, 2017, 06:03:52 PM
WOW! Jersey.City.State: 81
A.M.C. : 80
Falcons handed this game "giftwrapped" to Jersey City by missing 12 FREE THROWS!
Combined with 19 TURNOVERS, THAT was all she wrote!
Even with the above, it took a Trey at the buzzer to win. (It was a good hoop, but the guy was on the line....!)
Good points for the Falcons: 16 assists & balanced scoring.
Next game , after the Break, is home against an improved Suffolk University!
Video will clearly dispute he was NOT on the line. It is online if you'd like to see for yourself.
https://twitter.com/NJCUAthletics/status/942169564053430272
clearly? If his toe is on the line when he jumps, its a two!
Regardless, A.M.C. lost this by missing a ton of free throws.
Quote from: Falcons 25 on December 16, 2017, 10:44:23 PM
clearly? If his toe is on the line when he jumps, its a two!
Regardless, A.M.C. lost this by missing a ton of free throws.
Watch the video. He was 9 inches behind the line. And he got fouled on the inbounds play. It's plain as day.
It was the first thing I watched - it wasn't even close to the line. The one thing I had to check was if his other foot came down after contact, but it doesn't appear that was the case. Either way, the refs took time to confer and get the call as right as possible without replay.
That's NJCU's second game winner this season, I believe. Pretty good luck so far.
Quote from: Falcons 25 on December 16, 2017, 10:44:23 PM
clearly? If his toe is on the line when he jumps, its a two!
Regardless, A.M.C. lost this by missing a ton of free throws.
I've watched that shot a dozen times... he was well past the line when he shot the ball. Not sure what you were looking at, honestly.
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on December 17, 2017, 12:11:40 PM
It was the first thing I watched - it wasn't even close to the line. The one thing I had to check was if his other foot came down after contact, but it doesn't appear that was the case. Either way, the refs took time to confer and get the call as right as possible without replay.
That's NJCU's second game winner this season, I believe. Pretty good luck so far.
This team has a lot of heart...it's impressive to see..
I also am really enjoying the rivalry with Albertus...we've played each other 4 times and have split the 4 meetings.
He's behind the line, and I'm an albertus fan. Plus don't we all know whatever Dave says is right anyways? Rivalry has def been fun with NJCU
Enough already! A.M.C. blew the game on the free throw line!
Now on to IMPORTANT STUFF... THE GNAC games!
Albertus plays Suffolk & Mt. Ida on 1/6 & 1/9 respectively.
Both are GOOD TEAMS, especially Mt. Ida! They have the best offense
in the conference so far!
I hope we have Ajen English right away...but something tells me we may
have to wait until classes resume! (?)
Don`t be surprised if he`s our new point guard!!!
BREAKING NEWS: Mason Jones has left the AMC basketball team! A`Jen English is on the roster
& can play immediately!! (I was wondering how Jones & English would be able to exist on the same team!)
Maybe now, our team assists will get up to an exceptable level (16 per game!)
GAMETIME: Saturday @ 1pm @ THE NEST! (Suffolk University)
Been away from the boards for a while over the holiday break but back now and ready for the second half push! Conference play kicks into high gear and I look for this Falcons team to be much improved compared to the 1st half. We are without a doubt still the team to beat in the GNAC and while we finish the first half at 5-3 overall this team SHOULD and could easily be 7-1. But that is behind us now and it is time to look forward.
Falcons 25 - Tough news regarding Mason Jones, while I feel for him as a person I must say that he just wasnt the right fit for this Falcons team. No one can deny his athletic ability and at times scoring offense but he just could never find his niche on this team. I hate to use the word but from a basketball standpoint he was a bit to selfish for his own good. He dribbled way to much and did not understand the concept of team basketball. Didn't provide much help defensively either. I think if he actually played within Oliver's system he could score points with ease but instead he forced the issue most of the time when he played which left his teammates in a tough position to even get involved.
Sometimes when you lose a player your team actually gets better and I think this is 100% going to be the case here. Jahmerikah Green Younger returns today after missing the 1st half of the season and I really feel like he will provide a huge boost to this team. He has a high basketball IQ and is not afraid to make the extra pass. He is also an outstanding 3 point shooter which we missed desperately in the first 8 games and is a much better defender as well. He will make an immediate impact today and my guess is he will actually start today in place of Jones.
Pittman, Perkins, Younger, JQ and Maddred will be the starting 5 today and for the rest of the season going forward.
I also heard over the break that A'Jen English is more then excited to get back on the court and play organized basketball again. I've been told that this kid is as good as advertised and will make great contributions to this team going forward. He has a scorers mentality with amazing handles and can get to the basket at will but also knows how to distribute the basketball and get multiple assists. I was told he related a lot to Eian Davis. Great handles, probably not as good of a passer as Eian but a much better shooter with the same ability to get to the hoop. If you ask me that is a pretty good comparison! As talented as he is (and we will find out today) I still think he will come off the bench for this season. You simply cant expect to come in right away and learn Oliver's offense essentially overnight. That being said I think this will be a good thing the for him as a player and for the Falcons as a team. To have a player of his caliber come off the bench is something that not a lot of teams can say they have.
We'll find out in another couple hours! It's go time now Falcons! Lets GOOOOO!!!!
Spot on Junkie! I agree with your thoughts on Mason Jones, English etc.!
Mitch knows what type of player that THE TEAM needs...& Jones wasn`t
it!
J.Green-Younger brought great energy to the floor today vs Suffolk, defensively
& offensively. The 22 points he scored was a bonus!
Amir Maddred finally put together a COMPLETE GAME- 20 points(great low post
moves) & he played well on defense & rebounded well.
J Walters had a slow first half, but finished strong, especially on the boards!
( 14 pts. & 15 rebounds)
GOOD GAME against an improved Suffolk squad!
NEXT GAME: TUESDAY vs a VERY GOOD MT.IDA TEAM (Hope you like scoring!)
No English???
Saints return from their Florida trip relaxed and well rested, ( 0 - 2 in FLA ), and ready to resume the GNAC play with a Tuesday game against Regis. Regis already holds wins over Rivier and Anna Maria, so this will be an uphill battle for the 1 -10 Saints. Saints had a chance to work on their full court press over the break, so Regis will have their work cut out for them just to get the ball across half court. Should be a competitive game.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 08, 2018, 11:41:47 AM
No English???
Greek! Dont worry! Our intel didn't let you down LOL. English was on the bench Saturday and is on the roster. He is eligible to play right away and I am told he will get his first minutes tomorrow night.
It's a lot for a new player to take in and expect to play right away in his first official game. Oliver took a number of opportunities throughout the contest to sort of kneel right next to English while he was on the bench. I'm sure they were going over plays and where you should be on the court and so on. English himself looked very much in tuned to what he was saying. I think this kid is very eager to get out on the court and prove himself!!
Check out the broadcast tomorrow night. Like I said, I have been assured that he is going to get minutes tomorrow!
Saints blow a six point lead in the final two minutes and give Regis a shot at winning the game with 5.6 seconds on the clock and you can guess what happened. Regis came out of the time out and immediately fumbled the in bounds pass towards half court, picked the ball up forty feet away, and throw up a long bomb that goes in at the buzzer giving the Saints their 11 th loss of the season. Saints started the game asleep like they were still at the beach in Florida. Regis, fairly athletic, but lacking ball control, took an eleven point lead into halftime, mostly on scoring easy baskets in the paint. Saints came out to open the second half using their only weapon, lots of long range three's, and took a six point lead into the final two minutes of the game before Regis pulled off the shot of the year leaving the Saints stunned and staring at another home loss.
Saints play Lasell on Thursday. Lasell already has wins over Anna Maria and Mt Ida, so I don't see this becoming the Saints second win of the year. After Lasell, the Saints move on to play Albertus. Saints have a lot of trouble with teams that have long, athletic centers, or quick, athletic point guards and Albertus has both so i don't see that elusive second win coming on Saturday either.
Albertus plays their most complete game of the season and pick up an easy win last night at home against Mt Ida. I really expected Mt Ida to come out and perform much better than they did. They are a team with a ton of senior leadership and pretty good athletes, however Albertus came out of the gates so fast and strong and they simply did not have an answer once they looked up and it was 20 to 2 within the first 4 minutes of the game.
34 points and 18 boards from JQ Walters with another monster game. Amir Maddred has come along nicely in the second half and had another good performance last night with 15 points and 14 boards. We also saw A'jen English for the first time last night. While he had some troubles with finishing he had some really nice passes and looks like he is going to be a really nice player once he gets more comfortable with the offense. Green Younger has provides this team with a huge boost. He can score almost at will and is a really strong finisher at the rim and is a great 3 point shooter as well.
One huge concern continues to be free throw shooting for the Falcons. There is no getting around the fact that come GNAC tourney and hopefully NCAA tourney time that this problem can and will lose you a game. Each individual player needs to take it upon themselves to improve on this area of their game. If the Falcons have any hopes of stringing together a run in the tournament this will have to improve because great teams will capitalize on these miscues.
Falcons travel to Rivier tomorrow night. Not expecting much of a contest here as the Falcons should roll but regardless of the opponent you cant take anyone lightly and must come out with a lot of energy especially in conference play.
+1 Saint Paul for your dedication on continuing your write-ups despite your team being 1-11.
Hey Greek, are you allowed to adjust your Futures fantasy team still? If so you or somebody needs to add Jahmerikah Green-Younger to their roster immediately. He is the real deal and will continue to produce and put up huge numbers for this Falcons team. He is only a sophmore and by my estimations from what I have seen he will be our second leading scorer behind JQ Walters. I suspect he will produce anywhere from 16 to 19 PPG for the remainder of the season. And for next year, unless Oliver lands a big time JUCO transfer or player (which is very possible) he will without question be pur leading scorer next year.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 10, 2018, 12:56:22 PM
Hey Greek, are you allowed to adjust your Futures fantasy team still? If so you or somebody needs to add Jahmerikah Green-Younger to their roster immediately. He is the real deal and will continue to produce and put up huge numbers for this Falcons team. He is only a sophmore and by my estimations from what I have seen he will be our second leading scorer behind JQ Walters. I suspect he will produce anywhere from 16 to 19 PPG for the remainder of the season. And for next year, unless Oliver lands a big time JUCO transfer or player (which is very possible) he will without question be pur leading scorer next year.
I almost added him, but he only gets 1.5 rebounds a game (small sample but still), has a .03 A/TO ratio. So even though he is scoring 23ppg right now he is only at roughly 25-26 fppg which is good but a lot of players are doing that. However, he is shooting crazy well right now. one might think that his 72% from the field and 66% from 3 will have to regress.
Sell me that I should pick him up for next as I look forward to bolstering my team for next year! (FCGrizz is running away with the title currently).
Quote from: Smitty Oom on January 10, 2018, 08:19:45 PM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 10, 2018, 12:56:22 PM
Hey Greek, are you allowed to adjust your Futures fantasy team still? If so you or somebody needs to add Jahmerikah Green-Younger to their roster immediately. He is the real deal and will continue to produce and put up huge numbers for this Falcons team. He is only a sophmore and by my estimations from what I have seen he will be our second leading scorer behind JQ Walters. I suspect he will produce anywhere from 16 to 19 PPG for the remainder of the season. And for next year, unless Oliver lands a big time JUCO transfer or player (which is very possible) he will without question be pur leading scorer next year.
I almost added him, but he only gets 1.5 rebounds a game (small sample but still), has a .03 A/TO ratio. So even though he is scoring 23ppg right now he is only at roughly 25-26 fppg which is good but a lot of players are doing that. However, he is shooting crazy well right now. one might think that his 72% from the field and 66% from 3 will have to regress.
Sell me that I should pick him up for next as I look forward to bolstering my team for next year! (FCGrizz is running away with the title currently).
Smitty - To simply put it, for a future league heading into next season, Green-Younger will be the #1 returning scorer in an offense that is consistently ranked as one of the top scoring offenses in the country year in and year out. While he has only played 2 games due to him missing the first half of the season, I can honestly say that I have seen few players in my time as a spectator at Albertus who have taken such a leap in their overall game from Freshman to Sophomore season. With regards to your comment on rebounding, he is a shooting guard who will grab the occasional board, Oliver has always had skilled forwards and centers who clean up the glass and in the grand scheme of things your guards don't typically grab rebound after rebound. I believe his assists might go up a little bit as well but again, he plays mostly off the ball as a shooting guard. Ultimately, this young man has a unique ability to drive and finish paired with a superior perimeter game as well. In terms of shooting guards he is exactly what any coach would look for from that position and he is a heck of a defender too.
As I mentioned, with an Oliver lead Albertus team you cant always rely 100% on any player from year to year because he has a unique ability to land talent that you dont always expect at a D3 school like Albertus Magnus. Whether it be JUCO or any type of transfer he brings in some really incredibly talented players from season to season. But with that being said I really feel like Green-Younger role is solidified because of how strong a player he is at both ends of the court.
Lasell Lasers hand the Saints their 12 th loss of the year tonight 82 - 73. Saints have been playing zone all year but for some strange reason they opened tonight's game in straight man to man. Big mistake, Lasell patiently ran their offense getting dribble drives to the rim and wide open three's to jump to a 33 - 15 lead at the 10 minute mark of the first half, and a 47 - 37 lead at halftime. It looked like the Saints have completely given up trying to get defensive stops, all they want to do is run wild up and down the court getting off quick, out of control shots. Saints have a knack for getting their opponents to fall into this style of play, which is the only way the Saints can get back into games after falling way behind. They did it to Mt Ida, JWU, and Regis already this year, to get back into games that started to become blow outs. The problem with this strategy is that in the last four minutes of games when ball control counts, the Saints don't show any. So, same ending again tonight against Lasell. The last four minutes of the game it was Lasell with the patient execution of it sets, and with good clock management. The Saints were still taking wild, off balanced shots when they should have been controlling the tempo and the game clock.
Would be very surprised if the Saints try to play man to man defense against Albertus on Saturday. That would be just asking for a fifty point loss. Also hope they don't try to full court press Albertus, but I know that won't happen. Pressing starts that wild, chaotic style that they want to play.
I thought A'jen English was the next coming... ??? ;D
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on January 12, 2018, 08:49:35 AM
I thought A'jen English was the next coming... ??? ;D
Greek! He had a great game last night. Starting to see what type of player he is going to be for us as he gets more minutes. Last night was his first game where he saw enough minutes to get going and he did not disappoint. I look forward to the next home game when I can see him live in person with more minutes. He is going to be a great player. Still learning the offense and his role on this team. As I mentioned in one of my posts above, it takes time!!!!!
Happy New Year GNACers..
I think Greek's point is he though English was goinf to be the guy after JQ graduates. Not that he hasn't played well.
D3; you are right on! Jones' game never fit Oliver's style. I wish him the best moving forward. At the moment the falcons are trying to add two players into their rotation. I believe it will take 6-8 games to build that chemistry that will be needed. Both English and Green-younger have shown flashes but have also been inconsistent. I will be excited to see them once the rust wears off. English has shown he can get to the basket which will open up the 3 ball. He also looks like a committed defensive player.
Moving forward: Falcons need to hit the free throw; clean up some of their defensive lapses. I do think they need another outside shooter.
The league is wide open in my opinion. In years past it has been Albertus's league to lose. However, Lasell, st.joe, jwu have all played tough out of conference games and been fairly competitive. Should make for a fun winter in New England.
Saints have knack for getting teams to play down to their level. Saints like to play games with a lot of fouls, a lot of turn overs, and a lot of missed shots. That helter skelter style plays to the Saints advantage. Looks like Albertus didn't fall into that trap since they are leading 42 - 24 at halftime and cruising to an easy victory.
So far, have seen Albertus, Lasell, Regis, JWU, and Mt Ida, play against the Saints, and i would have to say that Albertus has the best combination of skill and athleticism. JUW is also long and athletic but their outside shooting is lacking and their overall skill is not a strong as past years. Regis is athletic but their skill level is just average. Lasell and Mt Ida are both very nice teams but not overly athletic. Saints have also played against Wesleyan and MIT, both tournament quality teams. Would like to see Albertus play against MIT in the tournament, that would be a very good game. Looking forward to see how the rest of the GNAC season goes.
I agree with your assessment completely Saint. Albertus is really starting to hit their stride now and have come together quite nicely as a team. Our main weakness this season has been perimeter shooting, specifically the 3 and while getting Green Younger back has helped that immensely, they are going to have to find some consistency from downtown if they want to put a run together come tournament time. Not to mention their free throw shooting which was much better against Emmanuel with the exception of Amir Maddredd. I dont want to make excuses for him because he has a decent looking routine and shot but I think we can officially throw him into the group of "big guys" who just dont have a feel for shooting free throws.
One part of this team that might be getting overlooked is our overall team defense. In my opinion this is the best defensive team we have ever had. Tyreek Perkins is an absolute pest when it comes to on ball defense and a lot of time this season Oliver has matched him up on the opposing teams best guard. That is saying a lot about his effort and persistence considering he is a true freshman. Pittman has always been a good defender and continues to hustle night in and night out and Jahmerikah Green Younger defense has improved drastically like the rest of his game from his freshman to now sophomore season.
Tomorrows night contest against Middlebury will be a true test for the Falcons as the Panthers have always proved themselves to be a tremendous basketball team. I think both teams will look at this matchup as an NCAA tournament game because both are NCAA tourney caliber squads and the way they matchup with each other, it almost feels like an opening weekend type of game. This would be a great regional road win for the Falcons if they can pull off the upset.
Saints use a simple 2 -3 zone to pull off the big upset over JWU, 73 - 66, to capture their second win of the season. I did think the Saints would win a second game this year, just didn't think it would be this one. Saints stayed in a tight zone all game and JWU missed 40 shots from the field giving the Saints numerous extra possessions to score. JWU scored mostly in transition or off Saints turn overs, but when the Saints were able to hustle down court and set up their zone defense JWU looked frustrated and disorganized. JWU cold night even extended to the foul line where they had numerous opportunities to even the game.
Saint very good win by Emmanuel. A win like that could give the team confidence and propelled them to a few conference wins. I won't be surprised if they finished the season as a 6th seed.
Albertus played wonderfully against Midd. They lost in overtime to the nationally rsnked team; JQ showed why he can be an all-american leading the falcons down the stretch. Twice they were down by 10 in the second half and came back to tie the game in the final minute. Albertus had the lead in OT with just under 3 to play but then walters fouled out and the offense went missing. They stood around and kind of hoped for someone to make a play. The little things cost them the game, inconsistent 3 ball, poor free throw shooting, and too many second chance opportunities for Midd. But, overall, a great effort on the road against a sweet 16 opponent. A lost like this can do wonders for a tem, who in my opinion is still learning to find itself and find their offensive rhythm. English and Green-younger have only played a handful of games. The defense was outstanding! Great job guys!
By the way, how close was that shot at the end of the game that went in. Albertus was that close to a bryon reaves or missy lumus moment.
Saints lose their 14 th game of the year to Suffolk, 73 - 69, in a fairly even contest. For the first time in a while the Saints were not at a disadvantage in terms of size, speed, or athleticism. The game was back and forth with both teams making short runs and a number of lead changes. Suffolk showed more poise and execution in the last for minutes to break open a close game and grab a solid GNAC win. Not sure why the Saints changed up their game plan. They just upset JWU by playing a tight 2 -3 zone and making them take long, outside shots. Saints opened the game against the Rams in a straight man to man giving up several wide open driving attempts down the middle of the lane. Rams got so many easy lay ups that I stopped counting when it reached double figures. There were no helping defenders anywhere in sight. The only outside shots the Rams had to take was when the shot clock was running down. Oh well, on to the next game.
Albertus vs Lasell on Saturday @ 3pm @ THE NEST!
Albertus beat Mt. Ida fairly easy Thursday. (I`m sure Mitch Oliver is going over, at practice today, how to handle a FULL COURT
PRESS however!!!) A.M.C. outrebounded the Mustangs by a lot & played good defense!
If they can repeat this performance, they will have a solid 2-game lead in conference play over Lasell. That said, Lasell is the second
best team in the GNAC & a DEFINITE THREAT!
AMC has to reduce their turnovers & get their assists much higher. ( TRUST EACH OTHER, GUYS...YOU`LL GET YOUR SHOTS!)
Albertus took care of business yesterday in a sloppy win over Lasell. Great effort against Middlebury last Tuesday, sloppy win on Thursday over Mount Ida and as mentioned another sloppy victory yesterday. That was a very long travel week for the Falcons and after Tuesdays battle in Middlebury you could just tell that this team is a little run down at the moment. Let me be clear, I am not making excusing for this team as every team has to go through travel and 3 game weeks this time of year. Im simply pointing out that you could visibly see the fatigue in the way they have played these last 2 games.
Not to mention, I found out at yesterdays game that Albertus did not stay over last Tuesday following the Middlebury game. This school and athletic department has got to be kidding all of us with at this point? Right? They are so cheap and unappreciative it has gotten to a point where it makes me sick and sad as a fan. Coach Oliver and these kids give everything they have night in night out and with a 4 and a half hour trip up to Vermont (probably closer to 5 on a bus) how does the administration not fund for them to stay overnight? Its an absolute joke. I would say 90% of D3 schools would have stayed over in that situation. They got back at 3:30AM Wednesday morning and most of the team had 8 am classes a few hours later. I have heard that the new President at Albertus is a great person and is relatively young, supportive and enthusiastic in all things Albertus. Maybe he can step in and do what our AD is supposed to do because I have talked to multiple people at games who are alumni and general fans of athletics and they all seem to agree that more should be done for the student athletes. He was brought in because of his strong background in financials and donations. While Albertus athletics has seen some nice upgrades and improvements to facilities in his time, something as simple as budgeting for his sports teams to stay over 1 NIGHT when they have a travel trip longer then the norm to say Boston and back is just not in his realm of thinking I guess. Before Oliver no one ever knew that Albertus even had athletics. And I will single out the mens basketball team because there success has brought success to every program at the school. I'm not speaking just for mens basketball, i'm speaking for all sports and saying that these types of things should not be happening anymore. This school needs to step it up and support their student athletes.
That's my rant for the season
Hopefully the Falcons can rest up and get back on track Tuesday at Anna Maria.
Junkie, I couldn't have said it better myself. Hopefully the new president can take a look at some of the issues that have plagued the athletics program for almost a decade.
Great week for Albertus. Although they didn't play their best against Mt.Ida and Lasell. They got wins ocer the team that scores the most (ida) and the second best team (lasell in my opinion). But, they also showed that they can compete at against good teams. On the road down by 10 in the second half and they force ot. That's a good lost. I would like to see them clean up the free throws and protect the ball a little better. I would expect a double digit win on Tuesday.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 21, 2018, 02:01:44 PM
Albertus took care of business yesterday in a sloppy win over Lasell. Great effort against Middlebury last Tuesday, sloppy win on Thursday over Mount Ida and as mentioned another sloppy victory yesterday. That was a very long travel week for the Falcons and after Tuesdays battle in Middlebury you could just tell that this team is a little run down at the moment. Let me be clear, I am not making excusing for this team as every team has to go through travel and 3 game weeks this time of year. Im simply pointing out that you could visibly see the fatigue in the way they have played these last 2 games.
Not to mention, I found out at yesterdays game that Albertus did not stay over last Tuesday following the Middlebury game. This school and athletic department has got to be kidding all of us with at this point? Right? They are so cheap and unappreciative it has gotten to a point where it makes me sick and sad as a fan. Coach Oliver and these kids give everything they have night in night out and with a 4 and a half hour trip up to Vermont (probably closer to 5 on a bus) how does the administration not fund for them to stay overnight? Its an absolute joke. I would say 90% of D3 schools would have stayed over in that situation. They got back at 3:30AM Wednesday morning and most of the team had 8 am classes a few hours later. I have heard that the new President at Albertus is a great person and is relatively young, supportive and enthusiastic in all things Albertus. Maybe he can step in and do what our AD is supposed to do because I have talked to multiple people at games who are alumni and general fans of athletics and they all seem to agree that more should be done for the student athletes. He was brought in because of his strong background in financials and donations. While Albertus athletics has seen some nice upgrades and improvements to facilities in his time, something as simple as budgeting for his sports teams to stay over 1 NIGHT when they have a travel trip longer then the norm to say Boston and back is just not in his realm of thinking I guess. Before Oliver no one ever knew that Albertus even had athletics. And I will single out the mens basketball team because there success has brought success to every program at the school. I'm not speaking just for mens basketball, i'm speaking for all sports and saying that these types of things should not be happening anymore. This school needs to step it up and support their student athletes.
That's my rant for the season
Hopefully the Falcons can rest up and get back on track Tuesday at Anna Maria.
I related a lot while reading this. I played for Concordia Moorhead, which is in the MIAC. Most of the teams are located in the St. Paul-Minneapolis area (5 out of 11 are directly in the "Big City") while the majority of the others are a one to two hour bus ride from the metro. Concordia was a 4 hour bus ride from the metro schools and pushing 6 hours when you traveled all the way down to Winona, MN when we played against St. Mary's. Very unique though, as all the other teams would dread coming up to Moorhead, as it was the only conference game they had that was longer than 2 hours away, and most much closer. I had many opponents telling me during dead balls/pregame/postgame about how hard it is to get ready to play after the travel.
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Anyways, we would always travel back to Moorhead after games, even if we played in Minneapolis on Monday and were about to comeback down for a game on Wednesday. This happened quite a bit in my career, as the MIAC has a very condensed conference season with 20 league games played basically in two months. The road trips definitely wear on a team and makes you susceptible to being upset (so Kudos to the Falcons for pulling out three wins this week).
Two instances of note:
1. We played at St. Olaf on a Monday and came back down to Carleton on a Wednesday. In-between games we drove back and practiced Tuesday and left Wednesday morning again. Both drives roughly 5 hours, as the two schools are literally 2 miles apart in Northfield, MN.
2. This years team played Gustavus (Just under 5 hours away) on a Saturday and then on Monday played in St. Marys (almost 6 hours away). The team drove back after the Saturday game, even though the two schools are not too far from each other.
Anyways, as a player I felt like it made a ton of sense to stay the night in a hotel. But I guess the money just doesn't add up for it. I always wondered what other teams would do and never really asked around. Glad to know my school wasn't the only school that opted for the quick turnaround bus drives!
Smitty, thanks for the insight. Athletic programs need to be funded at higher levels for most schools out there. Student athletes are shuttled from campus to campus because it's less experienced than providing lodging and meals. Overall, conference games are scheduled with travel in mind. Albertus and St. Joe's are about 5 hours apart. The conference has done a great job of keeping these games on a Saturday afternoon to avoid students getting home after 1 am and then having morning classes. The non conference is where it gets tricky. Each athletic department needs to fund these trips within reason prior to the of the season. The middlebury game happened to be played the night before the first day of classes. The need for teams in the GNAC to schedule games against highly thoughof New England programs forces their hand to travel more than other clubs. Hopefully Midd, Swath, have agreed to play a home and home similar to Babson and NJ city university.
Today's Emmanuel men's game vs Suffolk at Andy Yosinoff Court will now tip at 6:30 PM Eastern, and will be the first game of a doubleheader with the women's game vs Rivier tipping off afterward. In the second game, Emmanuel coach Andy Yosinoff of the women's team is 2 wins away from 800 career victories.
and at the same time the women's coach approaches a milestone, the Emmanuel men's coach also approaches a milestone, 220 career losses. With some adept game planning and more full court pressing he should easily reach that mark this year.
Well, it looks like the Suffolk Rams really have the Saints number. Suffolk beats the Saints in the second of back to back games, 59 - 45. Saints had a week off since the first loss against the Rams to reorganize and straighten things out, but it looks like that didn't happen. Saints started the game as flat as possible. Saints scored the first two points of the game and went the next eleven minutes without a field goal. The half time sore was all Suffolk, 35 -13. The second half score was just mailed in for stats. Against ever other team this year the Saints have played a 2 -3 zone, but for some reason the game plans changes against Suffolk and the Saints try out their man to man defense, without much success. What was really disheartening about tonight's loss were the 50 / 50 balls. The Rams got every one. You would think that after just losing to Suffolk last week the Saints would come out with their best effort. Far from it, the Rams got every lose rebound, and every lose floor board. Maybe the Saints were just saving their energy for the Albertus game on Saturday. If the Saints stand around watching their opponent pick up loose balls again on Saturday that game will also be over by half time.
AMC vs Emmanuel- Never a game!
Tyreek Perkins- 22 pts. & just a stellar game!
J.Walters- 31 pts. & 14 rebounds (Ho-Hum!)- enjoy him, because it will be awhile before we see another player like him!
Hanif Balal- strong overall game; especially good defense!
Game notes: ok, where was A`Jen English? (MIA last two games!)
J. Green-Younger was out due to concussion protocol (he`ll be back Thursday vs Suffolk in Boston)
NEXT GAME: Thursday against a Suffolk team that is getting better each week!!! Followed next Saturday @ THE NEST
vs. Norwich- also a team on the rise!
Final score Albertus over Emmanuel, 100 - 78. Albertus score 100 points and made it look effortless, they were hardly breathing heavy. Albertus scored every way possible, long range 3's, dribble drives, offensive rebounds, transition lay ups. I counted the first ten Saint possessions of the game. They did not run a play once. Whoever received the first pass over half court shot the ball. There was no flow to their game at all. Will never understand why, when the Saints miss a shot, they don't sprint down court and set up their defense. After ever missed shot you see two or three players trying to trap or pressure the rebounder or the out let pass. Do they really think they are going to steal the ball away from the rebounder? All they are doing is setting up a 3 on 2 transition for the other team. If you are a 20 point underdog going into the game shouldn't your focus be on defense? The Saints wild, chaotic, style of play does effect some of the GNAC teams but it didn't bother Albertus in this game. Albertus was very business like, running their sets, moving the ball, and taking good shots. Maybe, just maybe, the Saints can learn from this game how to put a decent game plan together .
The 2 - 16 Saints are really looking forward to Tuesday's match up with the 1 - 18 Rivier Raiders. Somebody has to win this game and since the Saints have 50% more wins than the Raiders, they should be in good position to put this game in the win column. I have a feeling that the Saints will roll out their trade mark full court trap press for this game. No more 2 -3 zone for the Saint defenders, they are ready to pounce on the Rivier ball handlers.
Interesting sub plot to the upcoming Rivier game. Two years ago Rivier had a disappointing season finishing 4 - 21 for the year. The starting small forward that helped Rivier to those four wins that season is now the starting small forward for the Saints this year. If you were going to recruit one of your opponents players, wouldn't you take someone from a team with at least a 0.500 record ?
I'm not a mathematician and I've never played one on TV, but if the Saints have 50% more wins than the 1-18 Raiders, they'd have 1.5 wins.
TGHIJGSTO!!!
The Battle for the GNAC Basement has been decided. Rivier Raiders jump out to an 18 point second half lead and hold on for an 86 - 80 win over the Saints. Apparently, the Rivier players had this game circled on the scheduled also. Rivier came out smoking, hitting 9 threes in the first half and jumping on the Saints for a 47 -34 halftime lead. Saints did indeed start the game with their trade mark full court trap press. I think the Raiders were ready for this press. Rivier guards handled the press easily, and as soon as they crossed half court reversed the ball to the wide open wing where a player would knock down a stand still three pointer. It was like shooting in pre game warm ups. Rivier played like a 0.500 team in the first half.
However, in the second half the Saints were able to impose their chaos on the Raiders. Picking up the tempo, the Saints started their wild, up and down the court game, launching quick threes and then double and sometimes triple teaming the inbounds pass, leaving the rest of the court open. Apparently, the Rivier players don't understand the concept of " time and score " any better than the Saints players do. The Raiders started matching the Saints poor shot selection, possession for possession. Soon the 18 point lead was down to 2 points with 3 minutes to play. The Saints came out of a time out and the point guard collided with another Saint player trying to set a screen, ( I am not making this up, it is on the game film ), the ball popped up in the air around half court and a Rivier player scooped it up and ran down for an uncontested lay up. A few foul shots later and the Saints had their 17 loss of the season. Oh well, there is always Norwich still on the schedule.
Been busy lately so I've been away from the boards for a while but getting caught up now on the season!
The Falcons are in full control of their own destiny in the GNAC at the moment. Undefeated in conference play and clearly the class of the league. Looking at the standing for the rest of the conference and honestly 2 through 8 is a complete toss up. Anyone of those teams could beat each other on any given night but Albertus stands alone. With home-court advantage likely for the GNAC tourney, the Falcons will be extremely tough to topple. That being said they cant get to comfortable with where they sit, they have to stay focused and keep their eyes on the main goal which is winning the GNAC tourney and making the dance!
JQ Walters is yet again FAR AND AWAY the best player in the conference and is heading for a repeat as GNAC POY and a likely All-American nod as well.
Some unfortunate news. It appears A'jen English career as a Falcon was short lived. I was told at the game Saturday that he had some really difficult family issues that occurred in the last couple of weeks that resulted in the passings of a few of his family members. My thoughts go out to English's family. It appears he is done for the rest of this season and it's just to early to tell if he will be back next year. I hope he does come back! He looked like a heck of a player in the limited minutes that we saw him in. He was able to create his own shot and take you off the dribble and was a great passer as well.
I really don't think most people understand the hardships and backgrounds that a lot of the players we have at Albertus have come from. Coach Oliver has always done a great job of taking a number of kids in who have gone through tough times that most of us probably wouldn't even understand. He is known for giving kids a shot or second chance that most coaches wouldn't give and his players both past and present love him for it. I have had the pleasure of speaking to a number of them over the years just in passing and they love Coach Oliver because he provides them with skills and structure not just on the court but off it as well. He has a great relationship with his players after their playin careers are over. Most fans and people see Oliver as a fiery, intense coach which he certainly is but he is a great leader off it as well and his players really respect him for it. He has brought a winning culture to Albertus since the second he stepped on campus and we as fans are grateful for his efforts.
This team even without English will be just fine. Jahmerikah Green Younger has stepped up big time and so has Tyreek Perkins. I don't suspect they'll miss a beat.
I am so intrigued at the possibilities of this team and where they can go. Are they the most talented team we have had at Albertus? Probably not. But, they play so well together and are a highly underated defensive team. I actually believe that this is Oliver's best defensive unit that he has had in his tenure. And I have to say that out of all the great players we have had like Ray Askew, Darius Watson, Big Vic, Tavon Sledge.....I really don't think we have ever had a player quite like JQ Walters. He no doubt has a motor unlike any of them and his athleticism and dribbling ability boxed into his 6'6 frame make him I think the toughest matchup player Oliver has ever had. He is the type of player that you can lean on completely to either keep you in a game or take over a game. He's fascinating to watch and I hope that if were fortunate enough to be dancing come March people will take notice of his skill.
This team could lose in the first round of the tourney or at the same time, I can see them going on a crazy run and making a Final Four which is why I am so intrigued. I cant wait to see how the rest of the season plays out.
Suffolk on Thursday in Boston then 4 straight at home! Lets Go Falcons!
That's terrible news about English. I hope everything works out for him and his family.
D3HoopJunkie, I couldn't agree with you more. 2 through 8 is a toss up on any given night. Saint-Paul, are you talking about the same Norwich team that beat Riv by 42 on the road? Hope you're not banking on that one bud haha. It has been a very interesting season to watch for the GNAC. All about match-ups. Tough to predict games this year. Going to be one heck of a finish.
MrKnow
Welcome to the boards. I have to ask, do you pledge an allegiance to a particular team in the GNAC?
A few of us here have been saying for a couple seasons now that it would be nice to get another teams fan interested in posting here. The GNAC thread while relatively quiet is mainly Albertus supporters and of course Saint-Paul who as you know is a fan of the Emmanuel basketball team, just not their head coach LOL
Welcome aboard!
I can't say I do unfortunately, but I plan on commenting on a few different threads. Just a fan of basketball looking for some solid discussion!
Saints able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory with 75 - 79 home loss to the Anna Maria Amcats. Saints successfully unleashed their chaos on the Amcats with their full court pressing the entire game. Not just after made field goals, not just after made free throws, but after every inbounds play, every turnover, every live rebound. Amcats were taken completely out of their offensive rhythm by the Saints trapping and frantic scrambling around the back court. Amcats easily broke the press and found wide open shots from spots they don't normally shoot from. Only one Amcat player was able to take advantage of this by hitting four three's in the first half. The other players missed a lot of wide open shots, shooting too quickly and not running their plays. Saints held a 6 point lead with 2:36 to play, but could not switch off their frantic play to show patience and ball control. Amcats took a one point lead with 1:30 to play, the Saints came back and took a two point lead, but the Amcats finished with a six point run to seal the game. Saints lose their 18 th of the season. With nothing to play for and nothing to lose, the Saints are now officially a dangerous team to play. While the other GNAC teams are struggling for play off position, the Saints will be playing free and easy, completely without any pressure. They can run wild up and down the court, enticing their opponents to do the same. It doesn't matter if they lose by 3 or 30, so they are free to jack up as many 3 pointers as the feel like. I think they will upset at least one, maybe two of their final five opponents with this style of play.
Got my first look at St Joe - Maine today as the Monks easily defeat the Saints 67 - 56. This one was never a game, as the Monks jumped out to an early lead and never looked back. St Joe has a very nice starting five, they move the ball and look for each other. They can score both inside and out so they are difficult to guard. The Monks are not long or athletic and they have limited foot speed but they make up for it by playing with a very high basketball IQ. They know when to push transition and when to pull the ball out and set up. Complete opposite of the Saints. I was amused that the St Joe game announcer was shocked at all the quick shots the Saints were taking. The announcer kept repeating " another quick shot for the Saints " all game long. Apparently, this was their first look at the Saints style of play this year. St Joe shot 58% from the three point line while the Saints went in the opposite direction making 16% of their three point attempts. St Joe shoots the ball well enough from the perimeter that they could be a dangerous palyoff team
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on January 31, 2018, 02:01:16 PM
Been busy lately so I've been away from the boards for a while but getting caught up now on the season!
The Falcons are in full control of their own destiny in the GNAC at the moment. Undefeated in conference play and clearly the class of the league. Looking at the standing for the rest of the conference and honestly 2 through 8 is a complete toss up. Anyone of those teams could beat each other on any given night but Albertus stands alone. With home-court advantage likely for the GNAC tourney, the Falcons will be extremely tough to topple. That being said they cant get to comfortable with where they sit, they have to stay focused and keep their eyes on the main goal which is winning the GNAC tourney and making the dance!
JQ Walters is yet again FAR AND AWAY the best player in the conference and is heading for a repeat as GNAC POY and a likely All-American nod as well.
Some unfortunate news. It appears A'jen English career as a Falcon was short lived. I was told at the game Saturday that he had some really difficult family issues that occurred in the last couple of weeks that resulted in the passings of a few of his family members. My thoughts go out to English's family. It appears he is done for the rest of this season and it's just to early to tell if he will be back next year. I hope he does come back! He looked like a heck of a player in the limited minutes that we saw him in. He was able to create his own shot and take you off the dribble and was a great passer as well.
I really don't think most people understand the hardships and backgrounds that a lot of the players we have at Albertus have come from. Coach Oliver has always done a great job of taking a number of kids in who have gone through tough times that most of us probably wouldn't even understand. He is known for giving kids a shot or second chance that most coaches wouldn't give and his players both past and present love him for it. I have had the pleasure of speaking to a number of them over the years just in passing and they love Coach Oliver because he provides them with skills and structure not just on the court but off it as well. He has a great relationship with his players after their playin careers are over. Most fans and people see Oliver as a fiery, intense coach which he certainly is but he is a great leader off it as well and his players really respect him for it. He has brought a winning culture to Albertus since the second he stepped on campus and we as fans are grateful for his efforts.
This team even without English will be just fine. Jahmerikah Green Younger has stepped up big time and so has Tyreek Perkins. I don't suspect they'll miss a beat.
I am so intrigued at the possibilities of this team and where they can go. Are they the most talented team we have had at Albertus? Probably not. But, they play so well together and are a highly underated defensive team. I actually believe that this is Oliver's best defensive unit that he has had in his tenure. And I have to say that out of all the great players we have had like Ray Askew, Darius Watson, Big Vic, Tavon Sledge.....I really don't think we have ever had a player quite like JQ Walters. He no doubt has a motor unlike any of them and his athleticism and dribbling ability boxed into his 6'6 frame make him I think the toughest matchup player Oliver has ever had. He is the type of player that you can lean on completely to either keep you in a game or take over a game. He's fascinating to watch and I hope that if were fortunate enough to be dancing come March people will take notice of his skill.
This team could lose in the first round of the tourney or at the same time, I can see them going on a crazy run and making a Final Four which is why I am so intrigued. I cant wait to see how the rest of the season plays out.
Suffolk on Thursday in Boston then 4 straight at home! Lets Go Falcons!
This albertus team is in trouble with no English. Still rooting for them like always but I can see them getting upset in gnac tourney, these close games in tourney are a lot diff when season on the line
WOW! AMC over Norwich, 79-75.
THANK YOU, HANIF BALAL- 7 late points, including 4-4 on the foul line when it counted!
Norwich can`t play a better game than what they did today. (3-point shooting & great
late defense on J. Walters)
AMC has a lot of heart! Down 6 points with under 2 minutes to go & they tied it with treys
from Bilal & Pittman! Then, Hanif`s clutch free throw shooting!
BRING ON JOHNSON & WALES...Tuesday night @ 7pm @ THE NEST!
This team isnt missing English. We're talking about a guy who played in 5 games and played limited minutes. He was hardly here! He played well for us in his short time and I wish he was still a part of this team but the team is just fine without him.
Falcons25 - The credit has to go to Green-Younger with the first 3 to cut the 6 point lead in half. It wasn't Pittman. Bilal played very well and came up clutch with that 3 and FT's to seal the game!
Can't wait for Tuesday night! The biggest rivalry in the GNAC returns to the Nest for the first time this season!!
They aren't just fine without him. Barely beating Norwich and Suffolk. Limited game ls, limited minutes and he made them that much better. He was gonna get better with every game too. Shut down JQW and albertus doesn't have much. THEY ARE IN TROUBLE. Let's stop being bias here. But in Mitch I trust, go Falcons
26 PPG, 13 REB, no one has shut down JQ yet and I don't see it happening. And to say that they dont have much is absurd. Ryan Pittman and Green Younger play great together. Hanif Bilal has looked really good in the second half and Tyreek Perkins is a great defender and future star with a lot more offensive ability than people give him credit for. I am not saying English wouldn't have helped this team going forward. All I am saying is that the effects of him not being there are minimal. Honestly if I had to choose I would take Green Younger over him any day of the week. Green Younger is a much better shooter and finisher at the rim as well as a stronger defender. English could distribute and get to the hoop, there is no denying that and he was absolutely going to get better with more time but we played 15 other games without him this season and looked just fine. Guard depth has never been an issue for an Oliver coached team and its certainly not lacking this season either.
Have these last 2 games been close, yes they have but thats what conference games are all about. The season for every team is a grind and to hit a wall for a couple games regardless of how superior you are talent wise is inevitable. I am not saying they are perfect and you are right, they can definitely slip up if there not careful but close game or not, within the conference, they haven't yet and todays comeback further solidifies that.
Ferraro13, you know I love my Falcons, have for many years and In Mitch We Trust indeed. Love the passion
Totally agree with you Junkie! THIS team is better off WITHOUT English.
If he comes back next year, it may be a different story! (all I saw from
English, this year, was Mason Jones "Light".)
AMC has a good defensive team that can rebound; I`ll take that any day.
Offensively, I`ve seen better Falcon teams, but the aforementioned "D"
& rebounding will take them far. (in the GNAC)
Looking forward to Tuesday night`s barnburner with J&W!!
Lol I read all dall semester about English, and how everyone was so excited. Now we're better off? No disrespect to anyone on here, especially albertus fans as I am one too, but that's laughable. Like I said go Falcons, but this team isn't a lock for a gnac title like we have been accustomed too, and spoiled, over the years past with Mitch at the helm
Fall* stupid iPhone x
Guys, I know we all love Falcons basketball; but I think losing English hurts Albertus more than helps them. He didn't fill up the stat sheet; however, he played good defense. He, along with pittman, was able to keep the primary ball handler in check. This is key because no one else on this team can play defense consistently like that. Too many dribble penetration and kick outs. Also, English was rusty and missed a lot of close range buckets and lay ups but got to basket pretty easily. It was only a matter of time before he would get those shots to fall. He was a good ball handler which help pittman; especially when teams start pressing. JQ is amazing but it's a lot to ask him to carry a team. A guy like English could draw attention away from JQ. Green-younger has been inconsistent and the role players haven't established themselves yet. Hopefully they can but I am not as confident in Albertus winning the GNAC tournament as I was 3 weeks ago.
Of course I am still rooting for the Falcons! Amd I love the guys on the team all good kids! Go Albertus!!
Don't think you guys have anything to worry about. Albertus is going to win the GNAC. The only team that can match your foot speed, athleticism and defense is JWU and i don't think they shoot the ball well enough to win a championship. A lot of the JWU points come from offensive rebounds and transition layups and that is not going to happen against Albertus. If JWU has to walk the ball up the court and run a play you guys will win. Even if JWU pulls off the upset in the regular season, you will still have home court advantage in the playoffs and that means a lot. My only suggestion would be to try and get Perryman a few more minutes in the last couple of games. I think you are going to need his rebounding and shot blocking in the playoffs where games tend to be called a little tighter. Good luck.
I know Albertus is the team to beat and they are currently undefeated but why is everyone acting like they can't get bumped? Last two games were 4 point games. It wasn't like Suffolk or Norwich played "out of their minds" either. Both teams played their games and put up their averages. JWU game is going to be very, very interesting.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 03, 2018, 11:47:04 PM
26 PPG, 13 REB, no one has shut down JQ yet and I don't see it happening. And to say that they dont have much is absurd. Ryan Pittman and Green Younger play great together. Hanif Bilal has looked really good in the second half and Tyreek Perkins is a great defender and future star with a lot more offensive ability than people give him credit for. I am not saying English wouldn't have helped this team going forward. All I am saying is that the effects of him not being there are minimal. Honestly if I had to choose I would take Green Younger over him any day of the week. Green Younger is a much better shooter and finisher at the rim as well as a stronger defender. English could distribute and get to the hoop, there is no denying that and he was absolutely going to get better with more time but we played 15 other games without him this season and looked just fine. Guard depth has never been an issue for an Oliver coached team and its certainly not lacking this season either.
Have these last 2 games been close, yes they have but thats what conference games are all about. The season for every team is a grind and to hit a wall for a couple games regardless of how superior you are talent wise is inevitable. I am not saying they are perfect and you are right, they can definitely slip up if there not careful but close game or not, within the conference, they haven't yet and todays comeback further solidifies that.
Ferraro13, you know I love my Falcons, have for many years and In Mitch We Trust indeed. Love the passion
Love the passion junkie. It's ok to disagree with one another lol go Falcons
Lasell Lasers looking playoff ready as they smoke the Saints, 84 - 64. This was only a game for about the first 8 minutes, then Lasell kicked it into high gear going on a 20 - 2 run to close out the first half. This is the second time the Saints have switched from their standard 2 -3 zone to play man to man against the Lasers and the second time Lasell has picked apart the Saints defense. Cannot figure out why the Saints keep changing their defensive game plan against Lasell ? They don't play man to man against anyone else. Lasell scored on back door cuts, dribble drives down the middle of an unguarded lane, and with wide open three's. Lasell really moves the ball nicely and when they get an open look from the arc they make threes. Lasell shows good clock management, good transition decisions, great offensive rebounding. May have to pick Lasell as my dark horse team in the GNAC playoffs.
Falcons showed why they are the toast of the GNAC last night as they take down the JWU Wildcats 82-73. Overall I thought it was a very good performance for the team as a whole. Falcons lead from start to finish and even when it looked like JWU was going to go on a little run, the Falcons, specifically Jahmerikah Green Younger was able to stifle the run and keep Albertus in the driver seat.
As usual JWU was prepared to face us and this rivalry continues to be the best in the GNAC. I have said it here many times, I really believe Coach Oliver and Coach Benton have respect for each other as coaches of their respected teams but you can just tell that they won't be having a beer and playing a round of golf together in the offseason LOL.
Not going to touch on individual performances last night but I thought it was one of the most complete games the Falcons have played as a team to date, which is a good thing to see considering we're at that time of the season where this is most important.
Saturday's matchup with St. Joes is intriguing. The Monks are a very well coached team and always play hard and give us trouble.
The most important takeaway from last night, and hopefully my math is correct (which it very well might not be) the Falcons secured the #1 seed in the GNAC tourney which gives them home court advantage throughout the playoffs. We all know that for any team this is important but specifically for the Falcons this is extremely important because they play so well at home. I would be interested to see the numbers on their home court record over the last 5 season. It has to be the best in the country if not without question in the Top 5.
Lets keep soaring Falcons!
Your math is spot-on, Junkie! The GNAC contenders will have to come to THE NEST!
Now for the game last night...J. Green-Younger put a big exclamation mark on his
great game with a beautiful baseline dunk late in the game! Forget the numbers (23 pts.), Green- Younger
adds an explosive quality that this team really needs. Both on offense & defense, his quickness
has bolstered the Falcons like almost no one else. (save for J. Walters & Tyreek Perkins)
Last, but not least, DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE ST.JOE`S desire to knock off the top team
just before the playoffs! This game is very important for them & J.W.U. for 2nd place!
(Do not be suprised if JWU loses Saturday @ Norwich!)
See you Saturday @ 4pm vs THE MONKS!
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/men-regional-rankings-first
Watching Regis play is like looking in a mirror and seeing Emmanuel. Both teams like to run wild with every rebound and then full court press. Both teams take shots that don't come from their offensive sets. Both teams commit a lot of fouls and turnovers. Neither team has any concept of time and score. And as far as defense , I don't think either team could defend a thin mint at a girl scout convention. I have never seen so many dribble drives down the middle of the lane with no secondary defender anywhere in sight. This was like watching a Saturday morning YMCA game.
Regis won the game 86 - 79, but the score was back and forth. Regis jumped out to an early 13 - 2 lead, but Emmanuel held a four point halftime lead. Saints held onto the lead through 12 minutes of the second half but some poor shot selection combined with a few unforced turnovers allowed Regis to take control of the final eight minutes. At one point during one of the Saints full court presses there were more players on the floor from trips, falls, collisions, pushes, than standing in an upright defensive position. What do these players do for two hours every day at practice, learn how to fall down? Thankfully, this season will be over soon.
Falcons looked great on Saturday against an always prepared St Joes team.
This team is clicking on all cylinders at the right time. Jahmerikah Green Younger has been fantastic and JQ Walters continues to amaze. The defense that this team displays as well is extremely gritty and they do a great job of applying on ball pressure to opposing point guards.
Tyreek Perkins is a future star and if he continues to score the basketball its a weapon that not a lot of teams will be prepared for. Not to mention the toughness he brings on the defensive end. A freshman that really doesnt play like one!
Lets keep it going! This team is going to be really tough to beat!
With nothing to lose, and nothing to play for, the Saints came out firing and never stopped. From the opening tap to the final buzzer the Saints fired up all kinds of shots, good shots, bad shots, wild shots, off balanced shots, didn't matter, they all went in. Saints blow out Norwich Cadets 96 - 66, behind a record 16 three's to push their season total to 3 -21. Saints wait until the second to last game of the season to get behind the other side of a lopsided score. Saints have never been in this position this year so they didn't know how to handle it. Three Saints players received technical fouls for taunting, something that should have been addressed from the bench. With 21 losses already in the books, the only thing they should have been taunting was the cheerleaders. I am sure that the Norwich team was caught by surprise seeing all those three's going right in, the Saints haven't made that many three's in their last four games combined.
These things are here:
http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/men-regional-rankings-second
Albertus left off new england rankings. Guess it didn't pay to beef up the out of conference schedule. Just win the league. Go to tournament.
I mean, even as a Falcons fan beefing it up doesn't do anything if they don't win any of them lol. Sure SOS rises but not enough to offset the GNAC. Though also not their fault Babson and WPI are having down years. Then they lost to the 4 ranked teams they played (Middlebury, NJC, Keene and Swarthmore).
Quote from: falcons2010 on February 14, 2018, 10:44:57 PM
Albertus left off new england rankings. Guess it didn't pay to beef up the out of conference schedule. Just win the league. Go to tournament.
Well, it isn't like AMC is having an incredible season (i.e. 2 or less losses). The conference still hurts their SOS, but their SOS numbers are better than they were when they were a two-loss squad.
There is more involved than just the SOS. They have improved the SOS, but they are struggling in other categories this season.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 15, 2018, 11:14:50 PM
Quote from: falcons2010 on February 14, 2018, 10:44:57 PM
Albertus left off new england rankings. Guess it didn't pay to beef up the out of conference schedule. Just win the league. Go to tournament.
Well, it isn't like AMC is having an incredible season (i.e. 2 or less losses). The conference still hurts their SOS, but their SOS numbers are better than they were when they were a two-loss squad.
There is more involved than just the SOS. They have improved the SOS, but they are struggling in other categories this season.
So 2 or less losses in a season justifies having an incredible season now? Not 3 or even 4???
Being 0-4 against those regionally ranked teams are what hurt the Falcons the most with regards to Regional Rankings this season.
Even though it was our very first game of the season against Swarthmore, a terrible loss to Keene State which was just one of those head scratcher games, an OT loss to Middlebury and finally a game that Albertus lead until the buzzer against NJCU that they should have won. Those 4 games are what cost the Falcons any credibility in the regional rankings this season. Not saying that its right because I think we are mucher better then a few team on the Northeast list but such is life.
Its time to handle business and win the GNAC. Make the big dance and go on a run!
I'd guess AMC is just off the rankings. Right now they've got a better resume than Nichols, who was ranked last week. Right now it's the Tufts SOS that's keeping them ahead. AMC is right there in the conversation, I'm sure.
Looks as if Albertus Magnus will be the No. 1 seed in the conference tournament, Johnson & Wales will be the No. 2 seed and St. Joseph's (ME) will be the No. 3 seed. Lasell, Regis, and Suffolk will be 4-5-6 in some order. Norwich will be the No. 7 seed and Anna Maria the No. 8 seed. Mount Ida, Emmanuel and Rivier have been eliminated from the conference tournament.
Quote from: AllStar on February 16, 2018, 07:34:17 PM
Looks as if Albertus Magnus will be the No. 1 seed in the conference tournament, Johnson & Wales will be the No. 2 seed and St. Joseph's (ME) will be the No. 3 seed. Lasell, Regis, and Suffolk will be 4-5-6 in some order. Norwich will be the No. 7 seed and Anna Maria the No. 8 seed. Mount Ida, Emmanuel and Rivier have been eliminated from the conference tournament.
Hey AllStar, where's our fancy little bracket graphic for the GNAC fans? No Love?? ;D
Only kidding of course!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 16, 2018, 07:54:48 PM
Quote from: AllStar on February 16, 2018, 07:34:17 PM
Looks as if Albertus Magnus will be the No. 1 seed in the conference tournament, Johnson & Wales will be the No. 2 seed and St. Joseph's (ME) will be the No. 3 seed. Lasell, Regis, and Suffolk will be 4-5-6 in some order. Norwich will be the No. 7 seed and Anna Maria the No. 8 seed. Mount Ida, Emmanuel and Rivier have been eliminated from the conference tournament.
Hey AllStar, where's our fancy little bracket graphic for the GNAC fans? No Love?? ;D
Only kidding of course!
In all seriousness, I'll have it after tomorrow :)
Quote from: AllStar on February 16, 2018, 08:05:08 PM
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 16, 2018, 07:54:48 PM
Quote from: AllStar on February 16, 2018, 07:34:17 PM
Looks as if Albertus Magnus will be the No. 1 seed in the conference tournament, Johnson & Wales will be the No. 2 seed and St. Joseph's (ME) will be the No. 3 seed. Lasell, Regis, and Suffolk will be 4-5-6 in some order. Norwich will be the No. 7 seed and Anna Maria the No. 8 seed. Mount Ida, Emmanuel and Rivier have been eliminated from the conference tournament.
Hey AllStar, where's our fancy little bracket graphic for the GNAC fans? No Love?? ;D
Only kidding of course!
In all seriousness, I'll have it after tomorrow :)
Makes sense! I guess I jumped the gun a bit considering the bottom half of the GNAC won't be complete until the end of today's contests.
Thanks AllStar
Falcons look to close out GNAC conference play a perfect 16-0 today as they take on their biggest conference rival Johnson and Wales in both teams final regular season contest of the season. Another impressive feat for the Falcons and Coach Oliver. This team, year after year continues to impress and assert themselves as the best the GNAC has to offer.
I dont care what anyone says about the GNAC, how weak it is or how noncompetitive it is and all that other BS. These are good teams and over the years both Albertus and Johnson and Wales have impressed against top competition come NCAA tourney time. This league is tough and games are way more physical then other conference games I have watched in my time observing D3 basketball. That is why GNAC teams are always going to be feared by coaches in NCAA play.
It also makes the Falcons run over Oliver's tenure that much more impressive. They are getting every teams best game each and every night. They battle through highs and lows just like every other team and yet they continue to win year after year. This team and Coach Oliver don't get nearly the respect they deserve. I'm not mad about it, just merely stating a fact.
I know that in the D3hoops/NCAA community the upper brass so to speak are fixated on the numbers and whats on paper. I understand that our games (meaning all of Division 3) just don't have the same platform that D1 and even D2 teams have. But there are a ton of teams in this country that are much better then what those people think and its a shame that they aren't seen or covered.
D3hoops.com does a fantastic job of trying to bring light to these teams and I truly mean that. Heck, without D3hoops.com is there even another website for us D3 fans to go to? I think not. All I am saying is that the NCAA, the billion dollar industry that is the NCAA, should devote more time and resources into D3 athletics as a whole. I think that if they saw the passion and enthusiasm that D3 fans have for their schools and teams that they'd be shocked at the results.
Saints play an early afternoon game and lose to Anna Maria 91 - 73 to complete their season at 3 - 22. Saints shooting returns to normal after last weeks explosion with a 21% showing from behind the 3 point line. No taunting fouls today , hey guys. Anna Maria starts their seniors for the first six minutes of each half and still puts 91 points on the board with their big guns coming off the bench. Saints defense again nowhere to be found as Anna Maria scored both inside and out. Anna Maria moves on to the playoffs while the Saints will be filling out brackets
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My argument isn't that Albertus should be ranked in region; it's that talent ( eye test) will always be a big factor in ranking teams regionally. Now, when you have talent, along with a strong SOS and a good record those teams will be ranked high. That's why the team led by big vic was ranked 6 with a horrible SOS and this team (prior to yesterday's game) couldn't break the top 12. My point is the committee has seen Albertus play and don't believe they are worth a spot in ranking. And I agree, although I do believe they are having a good year.
Albertus suffered their first conference loss just before the start of GNAC tournament to JWU. Albertus will host every game they play and are still considered the favorites. A loss like this is sometimes a good thing. Players can be humbled and mitch work on the things that are team weakness.
As always, let's go Falcons.
Don't see any upsets in the first round. Home teams will hold on. Next two rounds are not that easy.
AMC over Anna Maria by a lot
Lasell over Regis by 10 points
St Joe over Suffolk by 10 points
JWU over Norwich by a lot
Second round I can see one upset and one close game.
AMC over Lasell by 12 points
St Joe upsets JWU by 8 points
Championship game I see AMC holding on in a close game
AMC over St Joe by 7 points
well, let's play the game anyway and see what happens.
I am thrilled that the Falcons got beat by J & W! They needed a "good slap in the face" before the GNAC tourney!
The Amcats of Anna Maria should not be taken lightly! They are a hot team that can rebound w/Albertus & shoot 3`s!
The loss to the Wildcats is an absolute blessing-in-disguise! NOW, the Falcons will play their smothering defense &
win this game against the Amcats by 8-12 pts.!
Second round: I see the Falcons playing vs REGIS!! (and winning!)
Championship: J&W vs OUR FALCONS
This time, they`re playing in OUR NEST & AMC will win. (again!)
Saint, I think the 3/6 and 4/5 match-ups are toss up. I can see both St. Joe and Lasell losing. I think albertus and JWU will have easy first round wins. Second round can cause issues depending on match up.
yes, your are right, during the regular season, the 3 through 6 teams took turns beating each other. You could easily call those games a toss up. I think that the home court for the first round will be a big factor. Regis is much longer and more athletic than Lasell, but i just don't like the way Regis shoots the ball. I do like the way Lasell works for a good shot, and also their decision making in the open court. Lasell only runs when it is opportunistic. I like St Joe because of the offensive sets that they run, scoring both inside and outside. They don't appear to force anything, they take what the defense gives them. The only negative about St Joe is that their point guard cannot score. His defender is often free to help double team other players. We will know in 24 hours. Good luck to the top seeds.
The GNAC title defense starts tonight for the Falcons!!!
In New Haven, we dont play for regular season championships
In New Haven, we dont play for conference tournament appearances.
In New Haven we play for GNAC Tourney Championships!!! Anything less is a major disapointment and all these players are well aware of that. They new what they signed up for when they commited to Coach Oliver and the Albertus Magnus basketball program. Now it is time to once again get the job done!
Anna Maria is a hot team coming in to the tourney and must not be taken lightly. I look for Albertus to come out of the gate hot tonight and not let up till the final horn blows!!!
Lets go Falcons!!!! Make us proud!!
Falcons cruise to an easy victory tonight in the 1st round of the GNAC tourney over Anna Maria. This one was an absolute laugher from start to finish. The Falcons looked like a team ready to go on a postseason run!
Intersting opening night for other teams outside of New Haven as Suffolk pulls off the road upset over St Joes and JWU narrowly squeaks by Norwich. In the final game, Lasell handled Regis rather easily which will setup for Thursday's semi-finals; Lasell at Albertus and Suffolk at JWU.
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Going just off the boxscore of last nights Lasell/Regis game it appears Lasell used a balance attack to take care of business. Balanced scoring across the board and what appeared to be a good 1st half defensive effort that allowed them to jump out to such an impressive lead.
Should be a good contest tomorrow night between these two teams who over the years have grown accustomed to seeing each other in the GNAC semi-final or championship round. I know Coach Oliver has a ton of respect for Coach Galletta and this Lasell team. They always come ready to play.
With all that being said, if the Falcons commit on the defensive end like they did last night we should have
no trouble getting past Lasell. They were all over Anna Maria last night. Forced a ton of tunrovers and really contested shots. This Lasell team also doesnt have an answer for JQ or Amir on the low block. They have some good guards but just can't matchup athleticly with this Abertus squad. I think the 1st half will be close and then JQ and Albertus and company will assert their will and tale over half way through the 2nd.
Final Score Prediction
Albertus 86
Lasell 72
Tip of the cap to AllStar as well. The tournament graphics you provide are great!
Nice all around game by Albertus yeaterday. They played well in every aspect; defense, offensive sets, and transition offense. If they play like that, they are tough to beat. Lasell causes a threat, they can shoot the ball and have two really good players. However, if Albertus bring the defensive energy they had last night and shoot the ball well. They should win going away. By 8-11 points.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 21, 2018, 11:26:31 AM
Tip of the cap to AllStar as well. The tournament graphics you provide are great!
Thank you very much!
The NCAA men's basketball regional advisory committees released their third set of rankings, and as expected, the Atlantic Region was among those getting shuffled. Here's the full list: http://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2018/02/men-regional-rankings-third
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Not just because I am an Albertus supporter but I am picking the upset tonight in the other semi-final.
Suffolk 78
JWU 74
I just have one of those feelings. I think Duffy and Hagopian are really underated players in this league and I think the Rams will come together to pull off another upset. Plus, JWU really didnt look that impressive Tuesday night against Norwich.
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 22, 2018, 08:34:49 AM
Not just because I am an Albertus supporter but I am picking the upset tonight in the other semi-final.
Suffolk 78
JWU 74
I just have one of those feelings. I think Duffy and Hagopian are really underated players in this league and I think the Rams will come together to pull off another upset. Plus, JWU really didnt look that impressive Tuesday night against Norwich.
I couldn't disagree more. JWU will beat Suffolk by 16. Suffolk has no inside presence to deal with JWU on the glass and getting to the rim. As for Tuesday night's game, you might be letting your Falcon loyalty get the best of you because JWU played great haha. JWU shot 40% from the field and 42% from deep while grabbing 13 offensive rebounds and turning over the Cadets (who are top in the conference in fewest TO, and were in the top 5 for the country most of the season) 17 times. I think Norwich played a great game and so did JWU. Norwich was an interesting team all year. Real case of Jekyll and Hyde for them. When they played to their ability they beat St Joe's, crushed Lasell, beat Regis, and took Albertus to the wire twice. This board is always funny to read because it's nothing but blind loyalty haha. JWU will be playing Albertus in the "Nest" on Saturday and very well could pull the upset.
Blind Loyalty? We are supporters of our team for sure but to say blind loyalty is a bit ridiculous MrKnowsMostOfIt. We support the Falcons because we have dominated this league for 10 years and other then Saint-Paul Albertus fans have dominated this board too. Many of us have always given respect to opposing teams and coaches, we analyze and critque just like any other boards and we cheer for our squad just as hard if not harder than anyone else. Thats not blind loyalty. Thats called being a fan.
I agree with you on Norwich and the Jekyl and Hyde statement but JWU is a much better team then how they performed Tuesday night.
JWU is an entirley different animal but im sure you must have seen Suffolk upsetting the Monks of St Joes this past Tuesday night too then right?
I'm simply making a pick and observation that I THINK the Rams will pull off the upset tonight. We'll wait and see what happends.
Yes, and St Joe's is not JWU. JWU beat Suffolk by damn near 40 this year. Please Explain to me how JWU didn't play their best basketball on Tuesday? Did you even watch the game?
Quote from: Mr.Know Most Of It on February 22, 2018, 12:34:51 PM
Yes, and St Joe's is not JWU. JWU beat Suffolk by damn near 40 this year. Please Explain to me how JWU didn't play their best basketball on Tuesday? Did you even watch the game?
They out rebounded their season average for offensive boards a game. They came up with more steals than their per game average. They shot the ball overall from the field 3% lower than their average but conversely shot the 3 ball 9% above their season average. Caused more TO than Norwich averages a game. Just confused how you think they didn't play well. I'm thinking it might be a little bit of your rivalry against JWU that holds you back from seeing how well they played Tuesday is all I'm saying. If you truly "analyzed" stats and critiqued the game, you'd have no problem seeing how well they played. Good luck against them on Saturday because they're coming for your Falcons bud haha
Very exciting. Watched both games by live stream. Really glad we didn't have live stream when I was in school or I don't think i would have gotten any homework done. Two good games with the one and two seeds moving on to the championship game. Should be a great game. Perhaps the GNAC would allow Lasell and Suffolk to play for third place like the old Final Four days. It's been a great season.
MR.KNOW NONE OF IT....Have the guts to admit you are a J & W fan.
I invite you to the championship, I`ll be right in the bleachers next to the Falcon bench.
We`ll see how your team does in New Haven... Good Luck!
Now for the important stuff- what a great game for the Falcons tonight!
J. Green-Younger really stepped up in the clutch w/32 pts., including
2 "dagger" 3`s late in the game!
The low post game was totally on tonight... Amir Maddred- 21 pts.& 14 rebounds and
J. Walters- 31 pts. & 16 boards.
They will be the difference against J & W.
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Quote from: Mr.Know Most Of It on February 22, 2018, 12:40:37 PM
Quote from: Mr.Know Most Of It on February 22, 2018, 12:34:51 PM
Yes, and St Joe's is not JWU. JWU beat Suffolk by damn near 40 this year. Please Explain to me how JWU didn't play their best basketball on Tuesday? Did you even watch the game?
They out rebounded their season average for offensive boards a game. They came up with more steals than their per game average. They shot the ball overall from the field 3% lower than their average but conversely shot the 3 ball 9% above their season average. Caused more TO than Norwich averages a game. Just confused how you think they didn't play well. I'm thinking it might be a little bit of your rivalry against JWU that holds you back from seeing how well they played Tuesday is all I'm saying. If you truly "analyzed" stats and critiqued the game, you'd have no problem seeing how well they played. Good luck against them on Saturday because they're coming for your Falcons bud haha
Finally a little juice on this board Hahahaha d3hoopjunkie is always classy on this board. The, "we been dominating the gnac and this board" was a mic drop lolll this is one of the weaker albertus teams that we have been accustomed too, losing two key players throughout the year. However, here we are at home in another gnac final, Mitch Oliver has spoiled us. This is a basketball program that use to recruit me and my baseball teammates in 04/05 to try out for the team to fill the bench. That's a true story. What Oliver has done is absolutely remarkable. JWU May be coming for us, but hell its the gnac championship I expect nothing less. But this is premier program in the conference and you must know that given your screen name. Gonna take a lot more then a win Saturday to take that from us. Would love to hear your prediction. Another title for the Falcons is one game away, can't wait!
Some good news / bad news from Emmanuel. The Saints have a new AD. The old AD, who made 18, 19, 20, loss seasons just business as usual is gone. The bad news, the new AD was not hired from the outside, but promoted from within the coaching ranks. Not likely the new AD will start firing fellow coaches as the first order of business. That would be too funny.
...But wait, no one explained to me how JWU played poorly on Tuesday night still haha. I'm most certainly not a JWU fan. Don't root for any team in this conference. Just saw a pattern here and wanted to call some people out. Not even living in the Northeast but boy you make it tempting to drive all the way up to "The Nest" and cheer my butt off for the Wildcats haha. But seriously, can someone explain to me why they thought JWU played poorly on Tuesday night? Stop making blind claims. Look at stats and do some critical thinking with out bias. Doesn't happen anymore now-a-days in any avenue of life. Everyone sticks to their guns and doubles down. In all seriousness though, Albertus has dominated this conference and should win Saturday. Good luck!
Jwu beats albertus, called this one a few weeks ago after the dismissal of English. Still a great yr for albertus, and still the class of the gnac. What a career for Walters, top 3 imo. Good luck to jwu in the tourney
Jwu every right to be excited, but showing no class in their win, what a joke Lol
Congrats to The Wildcats. J. Lawson... try to act with just a little class!
Quote from: Falcons 25 on February 24, 2018, 07:05:24 PM
Congrats to The Wildcats. J. Lawson... try to act with just a little class!
Seriously lol
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Quote from: Falcons 25 on February 24, 2018, 07:05:24 PM
Congrats to The Wildcats. J. Lawson... try to act with just a little class!
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Remember a few years back at Anna Maria when Albertus received a pair of technical fouls for taunting on their way to victory? How quickly people forget when it comes to "their" team. Don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house fellas haha. Lets not get into rap sheets of players and their behavior please. Great game all around by both teams. Can't wait to see how JWU matches up against East Conn. They are going to have their hands full and it's gonna take the stars lining up for them to pull it off. Very entertaining year for the GNAC!
Quote from: Mr.Know Most Of It on February 26, 2018, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: Falcons 25 on February 24, 2018, 07:05:24 PM
Congrats to The Wildcats. J. Lawson... try to act with just a little class!
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Remember a few years back at Anna Maria when Albertus received a pair of technical fouls for taunting on their way to victory? How quickly people forget when it comes to "their" team. Don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house fellas haha. Lets not get into rap sheets of players and their behavior please. Great game all around by both teams. Can't wait to see how JWU matches up against East Conn. They are going to have their hands full and it's gonna take the stars lining up for them to pull it off. Very entertaining year for the GNAC!
MKMOI,
Where do I begin......First off, I remember that Anna Maria game and 1 of the technicals was for hanging on the rim to long following a dunk which happens from time to time at all levels of college and pro basketball. That being said I am not condoning it but really a minor infraction. The other was for players from both teams jawing at each other after a made basket and the Albertus player got the final word in and as we all know, the last guy is always the one to get caught, so he received his T, again not condoning it but this too happens all the time. Your reference to this game has nothing to do with how poorly #3 Jarell Lawson and JWU represented themselves on Saturday. The circumstances and what transpired were completely different.
You ask me in a previous post, "did I even watch the game" and now I need to ask you if you even watched this game on Saturday? I know you weren't there in person and the camera feed "if" you watched the game didn't pick up what happened.
#3 literally had to be restrained by his own teammates and an assistant coach from going into the stands and into the crowd. And before you say "well the Albertus fans must have said some terrible things to cause him to do that" WRONG! His family members that were in the crowd had to be escorted out by security because they started a few altercations. Which obviously triggered his emotions and cause him to go on such a tangent. I am not giving any of the Albertus fans a pass either because I was sitting very close to where this all transpired and they too should have just shut their mouths and watched a great basketball game. But they didn't and things got out of hand. However, still throughout and following the game he openly taunted our bench and fans. I have NEVER seen anything quite like it. How a technical wasn't assessed is beyond me. Never has a single Albertus player nor any player from any team INCLUDING JWU for the past 10 GNAC tournament that I have seen, act and conduct themselves in the manner in which this player did that day. I completely get that emotions and ones competitive nature can cause you to do things your not used to doing, and obviously this young man was over the moon after playing so well during and then winning the game and moving on. The rivalry between these two school is as good as it gets. I honestly would put this matchup against any in the country in terms of pure dislike for each other.
We got beat straight up.......did we have our chances to win, absolutely. But we made a few mistakes with a couple bad turnovers towards the end of the game and JWU capitalized on them. That's what good teams do, and JWU is a good basketball team, I dont think anyone here regardless of their allegiance disputes that. Of course I thought the Falcons were going to win the game because I am a fan and still believed we were the better team but sometimes it doesn't always work out as hundreds of other schools around the country learned the harsh reality of this on Saturday as well.
A few of my fellow posters on this board just wanted to say that this kid needs to act and win with a bit more class because in the end, he had very little of it. There is no pot calling the kettle black here, not in this situation.
Congrats to JWU; a heck of a basketball game was played on Saturday. JWU made some big plays down the stretch. Green-younger is a tough player; not afraid to have ball in hands in crunch time. JQ, what a great career. He didn't have his best game, credit to JWU, but kept Albertus in the game. He was unable to get touches in last 4 minutes. JWU did a great job responding to Albertus 's run. Good luck to them during the NCAA tournament.
I continue to be impressed with the class and sportsmanship of the Albertus posters on this board. After first round losses to Middlebury, Alvernia, Dickinson, and Rochester, you guys went on the other teams boards and left congratulatory posts. I noticed it at the time and still remember it. No complaints about travel distance, about difficult first round match ups, or playing in home teams venues, just good comments about well played games. Again this week, following a difficult loss to JWU, you are still able to appreciate the talent and skill of the team that beat you, and wish them well in the upcoming tournament. You really grasp the meaning and purpose of this board, please keep it up.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on February 27, 2018, 12:55:32 AM
I continue to be impressed with the class and sportsmanship of the Albertus posters on this board. After first round losses to Middlebury, Alvernia, Dickinson, and Rochester, you guys went on the other teams boards and left congratulatory posts. I noticed it at the time and still remember it. No complaints about travel distance, about difficult first round match ups, or playing in home teams venues, just good comments about well played games. Again this week, following a difficult loss to JWU, you are still able to appreciate the talent and skill of the team that beat you, and wish them well in the upcoming tournament. You really grasp the meaning and purpose of this board, please keep it up.
Thanks Saint-Paul, and trust me, we appreciate you input into this board as well. It's albertus posters and yourself, with an occasional few such as a troll or two like me know of it. Junkie kinda hit it on the head, act like you been there before Lawson. The behavior was just absurd, never has an albertus player or any other player from the gnac acted with such little class from games that I could remember. Hell me and Lamonte Thomas, a JWU standout use to at it when he came to new haven, and ended up being pretty cool with one another Bc it was all fun trash talk even though it started out as some serious back and forth banter. Anyone who didn't have a problem with lawson's actions is just full is sh*t plain and simple, and trying to get a rise out of posters on this board. Like I said, congrats to jwu, they are the only team that has given albertus fits really in the last 8 years or so, the rivalry is great. Still gonna take a few more gnac titles to take that from albertus tho, and if anything, the loss and yes lawson's Actions Saturday will only make Oliver get on that transfer trail even harder. If you don't think lawson's Actions fuel Oliver's fire you don't know the man, he will remember this game, TRUST ME. I rather have this program in no one else's hands. Of what could of been tho, this roster was suppose to contain Lovell(first team all gnac as a fresh but transferred to St. John's to try out), mason jones, and English. But no matter who you are, class and then the team come first, so it wasn't to be. Congrats to jwu on their title, good luck against east conn and hopefully albertus gets a bid in the ecac
Back in December i watched MIT just pound the Saints. MIT had talented players at every position and they appeared to be well coached. They shot the ball well, rebounded well, and really defended. I will be following them this weekend to see how they do in the tournament. I think their big, 6'6", point guard is injured, not sure if he will play, hope someone else steps up in his place. Wish them good luck.
Dear D3 Faithful ;D,
I have read many of your posts throughout the years and even met some of you in person, but for those who I haven't met, let me introduce myself: my name is Michael Rejniak and I have spent over 14 years coaching Division 3 basketball and love what our division has done and continues to do for the sport of basketball. One of the greatest things about Division 3 basketball is the brotherhood that we all have with one another (coaches and players alike). My wish is to showcase the talents of D3 on a national stage in
The Basketball Tournament (TBT). You may have heard me speak about this on the Hoopsville Marathon with Dave McHugh of D3hoops.com (at the 6:11 mark). The TBT is a national tournament that is televised in July/August on ESPN after the NBA season is over. My goal is to put forth an all-star D3 team (current players are ineligible) and have them compete in this tournament to take on Former D1 / semi-pro's to prove that D3 deserves the same respect as other NCAA divisions. The team is mostly complete with former student-athletes from all over the country competing. Once the roster is complete we will be sure to release it through d3hoops. Former Babson College National Champion Matthew Droney '17 will also be assisting me on this journey.
How YOU can help our former elite D3 basketball players
While the end prize of this tournament is a monetary prize, being a D3-lifer, the goal is not the money (we all know that's not why we get into coaching), the goal is to bring an end to the stigma of Division 3 basketball, an awareness of how talented our student-athletes are and that we can compete (and win) against the best. We do need to raise funds for an entry fee, travel, meal and housing expenses for the athletes. In order to do this, we are conducting a crowd-funding campaign through GoFundMe to help make this a reality. These athletes need your support! Just think -- if every Division 3 school donated just $10, we will have raised over $4,000!!!! The link to the GoFundMe Page is below and please SPREAD THE WORD and email me with any questions/concerns at WeAreD3TBT@gmail.com. Thank you in advance for your support and Dave and I look forward to this "D3 Dream Team" taking the court this summer.-Mike Rejniak
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Quote from: Mike Rejniak on March 12, 2018, 11:21:22 AM
Dear D3 Faithful ;D,
I have read many of your posts throughout the years and even met some of you in person, but for those who I haven't met, let me introduce myself: my name is Michael Rejniak and I have spent over 14 years coaching Division 3 basketball and love what our division has done and continues to do for the sport of basketball. One of the greatest things about Division 3 basketball is the brotherhood that we all have with one another (coaches and players alike). My wish is to showcase the talents of D3 on a national stage in The Basketball Tournament (TBT). You may have heard me speak about this on the Hoopsville Marathon with Dave McHugh of D3hoops.com (at the 6:11 mark). The TBT is a national tournament that is televised in July/August on ESPN after the NBA season is over. My goal is to put forth an all-star D3 team (current players are ineligible) and have them compete in this tournament to take on Former D1 / semi-pro's to prove that D3 deserves the same respect as other NCAA divisions. The team is mostly complete with former student-athletes from all over the country competing. Once the roster is complete we will be sure to release it through d3hoops. Former Babson College National Champion Matthew Droney '17 will also be assisting me on this journey.
How YOU can help our former elite D3 basketball players
While the end prize of this tournament is a monetary prize, being a D3-lifer, the goal is not the money (we all know that's not why we get into coaching), the goal is to bring an end to the stigma of Division 3 basketball, an awareness of how talented our student-athletes are and that we can compete (and win) against the best. We do need to raise funds for an entry fee, travel, meal and housing expenses for the athletes. In order to do this, we are conducting a crowd-funding campaign through GoFundMe to help make this a reality. These athletes need your support! Just think -- if every Division 3 school donated just $10, we will have raised over $4,000!!!! The link to the GoFundMe Page is below and please SPREAD THE WORD and email me with any questions/concerns at WeAreD3TBT@gmail.com. Thank you in advance for your support and Dave and I look forward to this "D3 Dream Team" taking the court this summer.-Mike Rejniak
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https://www.gofundme.com/WeAreD3TBT (https://www.gofundme.com/WeAreD3TBT)
What a great idea! I would absoluley watch this team compete in TBT!
Eian Davis as well as Victor Ljurduraj would be great fits in a tournament like this. Both are playing overseas professionally last time I heard so not sure how that would work out but both players we're born to play in a tournament such as this, especially Davis who has competed many times over the years against some of the best basketball players in the world at the mecca that is Rucker Park and the Dykman league as well.
Can't post right now, word of Jackson's firing is spreading through the Saints campus. Must join, students , faculty, and alumni in the quad for a singing of the Hallelujah Chorus. Will have a lot to say later.
That was great, seeing the campus community come together to rejoice in song. Boy, some of those music majors can really hit the high notes on those Hallelujah's . Very inspiring. A very special thanks to the new AD for taking the first step necessary towards improving the men's bb program. This has been long over due. There was not a college coach anywhere in the country more deserving of being fired than this guy. From the absurd game plans, full court pressing athletic opponents, lack of defense, lack of shooting, lack of assists, multitude of turnovers, to the bus load of players quitting the team and refusing to play for this guy, to the complete lack of knowledge of time and score in end game situations, this program was poorly coached from start to finish. And the icing on the cake was that 60 point loss to JWU at home a few years back during the Greenaway era. What college coach loses at home by 60 and doesn't resign the very next day? This guy doesn't. He loses another 50 games before he gets the message. Let the search begin.
In other GNAC news, Mt. Ida announced a merger with the UMass system. UMass-Amherst gets the campus and Mt. Ida students will be guaranteed admission to UMass-Dartmouth. This is happening after classes end this summer.
https://www.mountida.edu/umass/board-statement/
Would have to think Emmanuel will draw well over a hundred applications for their men's job. Applications will come from multiple levels. Local HS varsity coaches with strong career records, a ton of D-3 assistants in the New England area, probably even a few D-3 head coaches looking to relocate, and maybe even a handful of D-1 assistants looking to head their own program. Should not be a problem drawing qualified applicants. Emmanuel has all the ingredients necessary for a winning program, low SAT scores, high financial aid packages, nice campus, great location, and a brand new AD.
Is it a full time job?
What is the situation with regard to assistants?
Yes, it was more than a full time job with duties in the athletic department extending beyond just coaching. It was a full time athletic staff position. Since the program has been in the basement of the GNAC for so long I would doubt that an assistants would be given consideration.
HoopDirt is reporting that Emmanuel received about 200 applications for their head coaching job. This is not surprising given the campus location and SAT scores. Should be able to find someone decent out of that application pool. Hope to hear soon.
Emmanuel announced their new head coach today, Danny Lawson, a D3 assistant from Endicott College. Looks like they went with a young guy with no head coaching experience. That's OK, he will probably be a whole lot better than the last guy. Player retention will most likely improve, players will actually run an offense, and non shooters will stop taking three point shots. Also, the players will probably sprint back on defense for a new coach. A lot to look forward to. Did not hear much about the selection process except that they received over 200 applications. Don't know who the other four finalists were but I did hear that at least two D3 head coaches applied and were not given interviews. Wish the new coach much success. Hope he can still do some recruiting and bring in an accurate three point shooter.
Albertus Magnus Recruiting News:
AMC has added a 6 FT. Freshman guard from Hillhouse, Davon Warner. Last year
he averaged: 17 pts., 4 rebounds & 3 steals.
He was SCC 1st Team & all Area New Haven Register team.
More when I get it! Have a Great Summer!
Quote from: Falcons 25 on July 18, 2018, 07:26:51 PM
Albertus Magnus Recruiting News:
AMC has added a 6 FT. Freshman guard from Hillhouse, Davon Warner. Last year
he averaged: 17 pts., 4 rebounds & 3 steals.
He was SCC 1st Team & all Area New Haven Register team.
More when I get it! Have a Great Summer!
Good recruiting news Falcons25!
Keep it coming! Im working on getting a few names because I've been informed that Oliver has one of his largest recruiting classes in terms of true freshman in quite some time as well as a few JUCO transfers as well. It should be interesting to see who he can bring in after losing such a talented a player as JQ was. He has certainly done it in the past. Lets see if he can do it again!
Albertus Magnus recruiting news: Commitments
1. Qualon Wilkes- solid point guard- Bassick (Bridgeport): 3-yr. captain, 5`,11" 1st Team All State
14.5 pts/ 5 assts./ 3 steals per game
2.Andrew Rice- 6`, 4" Guard/forward- Hamden Hall- 15 pts/ 8 reb. per game
3.Rashawn Brewer- 6`, 6" forward- Hillhouse(New Haven)
4.Jahrell Spence- 6`, 2" guard-one year @ Watkinson school (Hartford)- (after Hartford Public)- 28 pts/ 5 assts. per game!
5. Ed Popolizio- 6`, 3" wing- East Haven High School- big-time scorer- "college project".
GO FALCONS!
Albertus Magnus College 2018 commitment information:
Rashawn Brewer: averaged a double/double (pts./reb.) last year for Hillhouse - New Haven
personal note: he is a freshman who can contribute on the boards immediately
scoring not so much (as a Freshman)
Good team player- plays "D" well.
The GNAC men`s schedule is out! (See G.N.A.C web site)
Looks like Albertus plays: N.Y.U., Keene State, Middlebury at home. (Also Babson @ Western CT.!)
Check it out!
Correction: AMC plays BOWDOIN @ Western Connecticut!
AMC is playing in a tournament @ Western Ct State in Danbury on Nov.16-17.
Nov. 16 they play Bowdoin. Worcester State plays Western CT. on Nov. 16.
Championship on Saturday.
Lots of catching up to do. Been away from the boards for a while now but looking forward to the upcoming season for the Falcons and GNAC play.
Falcons25, great job keeping the board informed on some Albertus recruiting and scheduling news.
First off, a huge congratulations is in order to both JQ Walters and Amir Maddred for signing professional contracts to play overseas. A great opportunity for the both of them and I look forward to seeing their success play out over the season.
Some interesting changes are in line for the upcoming season in GNAC play. With the addition of the new teams that have joined the conference it appears that each team will only be playing each other once a year now in conference play instead of years past where we would play each team twice. Not to mention the addition of Jim Calhoun as a new coach within the GNAC conference. A 12 team league should be quite interesting and we'll have to see how this affects teams SOS numbers and post season at large opportunities.
As Falcons25 already mentioned, it looks like a strong recruiting class once again for Coach Oliver, specifically with a large number of "true" freshman signed on and committed to help the Albertus program for the next 4 seasons. I haven't seen any JUCO players mentioned yet but I have heard and can confirm that Oliver secured a 6'7 JUCO transfer forward who is supposed to be an outstanding talent that will help fill the void that JQ has left us with following his stellar career. I am working on getting a name for this player along with a few other JUCOs who I was told committed.
Should be one heck of an interesting year for the Falcons. It cant be understated how valuable and important JQ Walters was to this team over the last 2 season. You simply cant replace a talent like Walters but what you can do is focus on whats returning and work on getting back to the NCAA tourney and that is what Oliver has shown he can do better than any other Coach in the GNAC conference. The level of success he has sustained over his years with Albertus is remarkable.
We still have a ton of experienced players returning including some great guards in Ryan Pittman and Jahmerikah Green Younger who I feel has a a great shot at being our going to player for the season and IMO will compete for GNAC player of the year, I believe he is that talented.
Planning on doing an in depth season preview once we get closer to go time. I can't wait for the season to start!!!
"Albertus Madness" will be held this year on Oct. 18 @ 7:30pm! (No more guessing the roster the day before the first game on Nov.8!)
Yes, I also noticed the new GNAC schedule. Saints only have to play Albertus and JWU once this year. That will certainly help reduce the loss column. Saints new coach also dropped games with MIT and Wesleyan which is also a big help. Those were 30 point losses for sure. Followed MIT in the NCAA tournament last year, and they proved to be a very tough team at home and on the road. Glad we are not scheduling them this year, although will miss watching them play against the Saints. Their games against the Saints were usually a clinic on how the game is suppose to be played. Hope the Saints can add four wins to the season total with the four new open game slots.
BREAKING NEWS FOR ALBERTUS MAGNUS COLLEGE: THE REST OF THE ROSTER!
1. Keith Antonio Davis- 6-2, 190 lb guard-transfer from Manor College(one year)
High school- Voorhees High School- New Jersey
2.Keyaire Martin- 6-6, 220 lb Center- played 2 years @ Passaic County C.C.
3.Rob Tindley- 5-8, 150 lb guard from Haddon Heights, N.J.- transfer from Penn State-Brandywine!
(14 pts & 2 assists per game last year- 2017-18)
New freshmen: Terry Dawkins- 6-3, 200 lb Guard- Cardinal Hayes- Bronx & Mike Richardson- 6-3, 245 lb Center(?)- Cardinal Hayes- Bronx!
First 3 games: at Anna Maria on Nov.8; followed by at W.P.I. & Bowdoin @ Western CT. State!
Can not wait for the season to start!!!!
They haven't even started practices ... bet you see more changes before Nov. 8 ;)
Albertus Magnus College: a few early observations
1. Shout out to these players for starting practice in TOP CONDITION:
Ryan Pittman, Damian Grant(put on muscle), Jahmerikah Green-Younger & Tyreek Perkins
2.Newcomers: Rob Tindley, transfer from Penn State-Brandywine; NATURAL POINT GUARD!
Remember the name: TERRY DAWKINS - CARDINAL HAYES-BRONX - BEAST on the boards?
Qualon Wilkes- FUTURE STARTING POINT GUARD
Jahrell Spence & Keith Antonio Davis- Could be special players(This year or next?)
Andrew Rice? We`ll see!
3. Liam Perryman- If this team is all in, on up-tempo(in my lingo- Fastbreak)then Liam will have a solid year.
If we try to play a half court game, he will be lost!
AMC will go as far as the rebounders take them. (without the ball you can`t run) Keep an eye on these men:
Liam Perryman, Damian Grant, Terry Dawkins, Keyaire Martin, Mike Richardson(Cardinal Hayes product)Rashawn Brewer(Hillhouse)
& Andrew Rice (Hamden Hall)
GNAC Championship team? We shall see!
Comments from: AMC vs Rhode Island College (exhibition)- "WIN"- over 3 quarters by about 12 pts.
NEW PLAYERS:
The two freshmen from Hillhouse HAVE GAME!
1. Rashawn Brewer played an excellent, complete game- scoring, rebounding & toughness under the basket!
2. Davon Warner reminded me of a young Dwayne Wade! (wait till you see him play)
Rob Tindley(Penn State-Brandywine transfer) is a natural point guard. Nice outside shot, penetration ability & excellent ball handler.
Jahrell Spence- excellent outside shooter, with the ability to penetrate too! (scored well today)
Keyaire Martin, 2-yr. community college transfer, has ability. (very nice drop step move that was real smooth, like he does it all the time!)
Has an "edge" to his game.(great to see!)
Qualon Wilkes- Leader; plays like he belongs!
Veterans played well, especially J. Green-Younger!
GO FALCONS!
"Q" Wilkes is a great get for coach Oliver! Thought he may end up going the prep route, D2, or low end d1 (NEC, Am East type schools).
Jim Calhoun at the University of St. Joseph is making quite a splash. Next year the GNAC is going to be the center of lots of attention.
https://www.ctpost.com/sports/jeffjacobs/article/Jeff-Jacobs-Jim-Calhoun-s-Saint-Joseph-team-12920787.php
Speaking of St. Joseph, I'd be curious to hear how Mike Sagay (former Boston College scholarhip big man, very highly ranked recruit coming out of high school) ended up there! I would be surprised if St. Joseph wasn't (at worst) a serious contender in GNAC from the get-go. Man, what a coaching staff they have assembled!
AMC vs Coast Guard exhibition:
AMC "bests" a big, physical C.G. squad @ home. (won 3 out 4 quarters)
Key AMC players today: Andrew Rice- interesting player in the GNAC- lightning quick & excellent ball handler
; scoring is going to have to come on penetration. Good on defense & and a decent rebounder.
Mike Richardson- a "brickhouse' ,who is agile enough to play well in the GNAC. Opened some eyes today, scoring &
rebounding!
Jahrell Spence- nice outside touch on his J. Ditto- Devon Warner- at least three from behind the arc today.
Damian Grant- played well today all around, looks to be battling Knee problems. If he can stay on the court, this
junior could be a difference maker!
This squad will be deeper than AMC has had in sometime. They have team quickness, on both sides of the ball, that they have
not had in years! All personnel can contribute, which was not the case last year. (J. Walters was a "beast" & his play covered
a lot of faults.)
Anna Maria is this Thursday away. Get ready starters: Liam, Jahmerikah, Ryan, "Reek" & Damian- play well- this team has a lot
of talent right behind you!
Saints publish their new roster a week early, first time in 13 years. At least the new coach is starting out on the right foot. Hope he gets these guys to play defense and cut down on turnovers. Would like to see a constant starting lineup, at least for the first ten games. Let five guys get use to playing together and develop some chemistry. Good Luck
T-Minus 24 hours till the season tip off for the Falcons as we head to Paxton Mass to take on the Anna Maria Amcats.
At first glance it would appear that Coach Oliver has assembled an extremely strong schedule this year with out of conference games against NESCAC teams Bowdoin, Middlebury (Top 25) and Williams (Top25) as well as Top 25 team in NJCU and vote getters Keene State. Not to mention WPI and NYU who both have always been well respected teams within their region. I believe this is hands down the strongest schedule Oliver has ever assembled and it will really help this interesting Falcons team as the year progresses.
I say interesting because i'm really intrigued as to how this team and their success will playout over the season. I think we have a great group of returning players with enough experience to mix in with the newcomers and freshman. I've heard a lot of great things about this freshman class, loaded with athletes and scorers who come from great high school programs. I have also been told that a number of our JUCO transfers are polished players who will be able to step right in and make an immediate impact.
And with that, here is my starting five prediction;
Starting 5: Ryan Pittman, Jahmerikah Green-Younger, Tyreek Perkins, Keyaire Martin and Liam Perryman. The three guards are a given as Pittman, Kai and Reek have solidified themselves as one heck of a trio and I think they form the best backcourt in the league. Yes, I believe Keyaire Martin, a JUCO forward transfer is going to be our starting 4. I've heard out of camp that he is a stud defender who has great timing and a unique ability to block shots as well as an offensive game to boot that can be dominant on the low block. I think most will assume that Damian Grant would be a starter but I think he is better suited to come off the bench and his defensive skills really need to improve still before he grabs a starting roll. Finally, Big Liam Perryman at 5. While I think he starts for us, I dont think he will be getting a ton of minutes but will be a key contributor for us every time he is on the floor.
As far as the rest of the roster, I plan to do a breakdown after I see them in action tomorrow night. Not sure I can predict the rest of the team without seeing them play. Anna Maria doesn't always have the best video broadcast but it's good enough. I'll definitely be watching!
As for the rest of the league and what we're up against, I think the GNAC preseason coaches poll was spot on this year. JWU earned the top spot deservedly so and they return 4 of their 5 starters from last years NCAA tourney team. They should be quite good again. St Joes CT at #3 is intriguing especially with the Calhoun affect. They loaded up with an extremely strong first class and obviously will be well coached. That being said it is very hard for a young team to step in and find success right away. I think by seasons end they will be a dangerous team but so will JWU and Albertus and Coach Benton and Coach Oliver won't be intimidated in the least by Calhoun. My sleeper team this year has to be Regis. I think they are underrated and have some really good, athletic players who present interesting matchups.
Looking forward to tomorrow evening and the season! Good luck to the Falcons and all GNAC teams this year. Hopefully all teams and players stay healthy and the GNAC makes strides in becoming a strong basketball conference within the Northeast.
GO FALCONS!!!
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Falcons pick up the W last night against Anna Maria in their first game of the season. Watched the game online and I have to say that even though the score was relatively close the game never felt like it was in jeopardy despite some sloppy play in the 2nd half.
Couple things to take away from this game......this Falcons team can flat out play defense. They are very aggressive and Oliver has a lot of good quality players that he can put out on the court.
I thought the Falcons struggled a bit on the offensive end and I expected that to happen since it was game 1 with a number of new faces. But overall the team played well. My biggest concern or takeaway was that we need to do better guarding the perimeter because we gave up way to many open looks from deep. Out on ball defense was stellar but there were a few times where either the help or over extending really hurt us.
WPI should be a good test Tuesday night in Worcester. They are always well coached and are normally good at staying within there system and not letting teams speed them up. Should be a good one!
Also, put me on record right now!!! Andrew Rice is going to be a star if he works hard and listens to Coach Oliver. His motor is crazy and he did a lot of little things on defense that sometimes go unnoticed. Oliver will turn this kid into a stud
Falcons vs WPI- "BLOWOUT LOSS"
Well, The Falcons showed they are a very "Green" team! The game was way too quick for everyone!
If I am Mitch, I work tirelessly to get this team to WORK HARD ON DEFENSE & REBOUNDING.
They need to "GROW UP" fast or the likes of Bowdoin, Middlebury, Williams & Keene State will make them
look like a High School team EVERY TIME!
While on Offense, they need to trust each other, run the plays & take GOOD SHOTS! Spence & Warner are
excellent shooters, but lets NOT BE GUNNERS! THINK TEAM FIRST!
BIG MEN "TRY" to get some DEFENSIVE REBOUNDS, PLEASE!
Next up Friday @ 7pm (Bowdoin) @ Western CT State!
Saints rally from 12 down to upset Dean College 72 - 71. Getting that first win of the year before Thanksgiving break is something that hasn't happened in a long time. Saints were moving the ball on offense and not full court pressing on defense which helped keep the game close.
AMC vs Bowdoin College- GREAT TEAM EFFORT & WIN by THE FALCONS!
Ryan Pittman- played a gutsy all-around game. Hit the game winner as time expired!
Devon Warner- great outside shooting- 5 3-pt. hoops!
Terry Dawkins- GAME CHANGER AWARD- 12 pts/ & 9 Boards, but he stopped the Bowdoin Bigs from backing down for easy hoops from in close.
Great Team Effort, defense & rebounding (43 boards!!!!) Way to Go!
Championship tomorrow vs Western CT State @ 4pm
AMC wins Colonial Classic with a 84-79 win vs W.CT State
AMC won with a great TEAM EFFORT- Defense & Rebounding!
Yeoman`s work off the boards by Deshawn Brewer (10 rebs.)
"Reek" was top scorer w/28 pts.- great job of going hard to the basket & hitting 3`s!
Keith Antonio Davis with a fine all- around effort, especially down the stretch with fine free throw shooting.
HOME OPENER: THIS TUESDAY @ 7pm vs Keene State!
Saints blow out Curry College 91 - 51. First time in a while the Saints are not on the losing end of a blow out. Get second win before Thanksgiving break. If this keeps up maybe the Saints will be allow to play the 7 pm game of a double header instead of the 5 pm game.
Been following along but haven't had a chance to post since game 1 at Anna Maria.
Tough loss last night in the home opener against Keene State. What a battle it was between two teams who play a very similar style on both offense and defense. Falcons led for the majority of the 1st half and went into halftime with the lead. They came out a little flat in the 2nd and Keene went on a run to take the lead and even push the game to double digits. Falcons battled back strong to tie the game up and force OT but from that point on it was all Keene State.
Ty Nichols put on a superb performance and was without question the best player we have faced on the young season. Sure, we saw him last season but he had more help with his running mate Wright. This kid broke us down off dribble penetration and his ability to finish what seemed to be EVERYTHING around the hoop.
Great performance by a great player.
Falcons played extremely well at both end of the court over the weekend at Western but just didn't have the same mentality defensively that they needed to have against this very strong Keene State team.
The season is still very young and at 3-2 this team is still very strong. I think they will become more consistent and stronger together as the season progresses. Playing a tough schedule is only going to help this team moving forward and come seasons end I think we will be primed and prepared for a run at the GNAC Tourney Championship.
Falcons take care of business against Mitchell College in convincing fashion.
CCNY tomorrow evening at The Nest!!!
AMC "vs" CCNY- Most lop-sided game I think I have ever watched! (Falcons won by 33- but it was a scrimmage!)
Hard to draw any conclusions in a game like this but:
1. Jahrell Spence is a natural scorer. If he had played 38 minutes, he would have gone for 40 easily!
He drives to the rim with great skill & has a beautiful jump shot. He is a star in the making!
2. The "Hayesmen", Terry Dawkins & Mike Richardson from Cardinal Hayes-Bronx, can flat play the game!
3. Rayshawn Brewer is emerging as our # 5, slowly, but surely!
AMC`s future is bright as long as the players are patient & grow into what they can be. We shall see!
Huge game tonight for the Falcons as they travel to NJCU to take on the Gothic Knights in what has become a very nice rivalry over the last few seasons. Based on what I have seen in the home contests in New Haven, both Coach Oliver and Coach Brown have a tremendous amount of respect for each other and their programs.
This is always a fun contest as both teams are normally stacked athletically at all 5 positions. This needs to be a statement ROAD win for the Falcons. I think this is one of those games that will go a long way for this young teams confidence as the season progresses. As our roster indicates, Oliver has strong recruitment ties to the NJ/NY area so this game is also a nice chance for some of those players to play in front of family and friends who cant always make it up to New Haven.
This game will no doubt be a close one! Lets go Falcons! Make some noise tonight!
I cant remember the last time I was as disappointed in a regular season loss as I was after last night beating that the Falcons took down at NJCU. We have to keep in mind that this is a young team and they are still trying to find their way a bit BUT we have enough experienced players mixed in that this game simply should not gone down the way it did. Losses are going to happen, they are inevitable but the overall effort mainly on defense and the lackluster offense from the passes to just overall poor execution frankly was hard to watch. Road games have plagued us over the last few seasons and they continue to be a problem this year.
I still believe in this team and I know Coach Oliver will right the ship. We will be toward the top of the GNAC come regular season end and GNAC tourney time but right now we are in a bit of a funk. Our lone senior Ryan Pittman and junior Jahmerikah Green Younger need to perform better. Its that simply. They are the leaders of this team and they need to start to act and play like it.
NJCU was a very solid team and they can really get after you defensively but they are NO WAYYYYY that much better than us that we have to be down 40 points at the half. NYU comes to town on Thursday, lets hope we can bounce back with a better effort.
I agree with everything you said! Look at how well they played in the second half, after Coach Oliver ,know doubt, challenged their
manhood at halftime! (They looked like scared, little children in the first half)
Kudos to Tyreek Perkins & some of the others for really fighting hard in the second half!
J. Green-Younger has been a BIG DISAPPOINTMENT this year, time to PRODUCE!
GET IT TOGETHER FOR N.Y.U.!
Saints rout Newbury College 90 -69 to grab their 5 th win of the season. They only had 3 wins all last season. First time they are above 0.500 in years. The new motion offense really has the ball moving with plenty of extra passes before taking a wide open shot. Saints don't have any star players but this year they are playing like a real team. Everybody gets touches, nobody forces shots, and for the first time in years they place a high value on getting an assist. Nine out of the ten returning players are buying into this new system, and the one who isn't will probably get less playing time as the season continues. Have not said this in years, but the Saints are now actually fun to watch.
Saint, you deserve a great season! (Long-suffering is an understatement!)
Nice when players TRUST each other & play for a COMMON GOAL. That`s
why I love watching the UConn women play.
AMC vs N.Y.U.- Score not important (Falcons won!)
What is important, is the Falcon team played really well together on both sides of the ball.
After the debacle in Jersey City, this was nothing short of a miracle finish & they achieved
the "miracle" by NEVER GIVING UP! (They missed about 6 free throws in a row at the end!)
Stars of the game: Tyreek Perkins & Terry "Bull" Dawkins!
One more game left, before the break. (Fisher @ 3pm @ home)
Saints upset UMass-Boston with a 89 - 75 victory at their cross town rival's home court. Saints finish the first semester 7 - 3. First time in years the Saints have been above 0.500 at Christmas time and first time in years the players go home for break feeling like a real basketball team. Saints are moving the ball with a purpose, waiting for the defense to over play, and only taking good, quality shots. You don't need to be a great shooter when there is no defender within six feet of you. It is like shooting in practice. This is all being done with the same players that were on the court last year. it is just a different, capable, coaching philosophy. The biggest difference is that this year the Saints are no longer full court pressing every opponent, no longer spotting them a 20 point lead right off the opening tap. Well deserved break for the hustling Saints, looking forward to a strong second semester.
GNAC news: Lookout for ST. Joe`s- Maine , they are 10-2. They are scoring at a terrific pace.
Emmanuel went toe-to-toe with them & lost by 5 in Maine The Saints are greatly improved
& are highly competative @ 8-4. Norwich is scoring @ a high rate & also are greatly improved!
AMC better come out of the break flying & playing DEFENSE or St. Joe`s will blow them out on Jan.10th in Maine!
Saints post an easy 82 - 67 win over Rivier for their ninth win of the season. Saints place five players in double figures by showing a patient offense along with good shot selection. Saints will be tested this week with upcoming games against St Joe ( Conn ), Norwich, and Regis.
Saint, your team is just solid! Great shot selection on offense & they have each others back on defense!
St.Joe`s may break your heart, but the others you mentioned will not! Good Luck!
Not very often do the Saints play a full forty minutes of straight man to man defense this year, but they did tonight and it paid off with a big time win over St Joe ( Conn ) 77 - 72. Saints usually play a lot of zone and mix in some man to man out of time outs, but tonight they played solid defense, contested shots without fouling, got into passing lanes, and frustrated St Joe into poor shot selection. At the other end of the floor the Saints were moving the ball, not taking any quick shots, and really controlling the tempo of the game. I think St Joe only had two fast break points in the whole game.
Saints held a 12 point lead with 5 minutes to play and withstood the last St Joe run of the night to hold on to their 10 th win of the year. I have been holding off from saying this because I wanted to see how the Saints would start the second semester, but yes, the Saints are for real.
Saints had 22 turnovers, only made 7 three's, only had two starters reach double figures, and still beat Regis by 21 points. Winning the ugly games is the sign of the good. The turn around of this program is simply amazing. Saints now stand at 12 - 4, looking forward to meeting Norwich next week.
The Saints will play Albertus in an important GNAC game on Saturday. First time in years the Saints are not below the 0.500 mark, not stuck in the GNAC basement for this game. I am sure the Saints will have a much better game plan than in past years. You will not see any full court pressing from the Saints. They may try some man to man defense, but I suspect it will be mostly zone. The tempo will be a very deliberate offense with finding the open man a top priority. Hope it is a good game, a well played game by both teams, and all the players stay healthy. Good Luck.
Saint, you have the better team this year, no doubt! Albertus is very young & has ability, BUT NO GO-TO PLAYERS, LIKE LAST YEAR!
They played with intensity for 40 minutes vs Middlebury, but that is the exception this year. They can score, but they give up too many
points!
This game will end up like the St. Joes(Maine) game- a 12 point loss! MARK IT DOWN!
Last year the Saints would have crumbled like the Gingerbread Man against the intense defensive pressure that the Falcons showed in the last five minutes of today's game. This new coach has these same players believing that they can win, even the close games. Holding on to this game down the stretch of the last five minutes was very important for the moral of the new Saints team. I was very impressed with the Falcons defense. After the first four minutes of the game, the Falcon defenders ran all the Saints shooters off the arc forcing them to drive to the basket, something they are uncomfortable doing. The Saints showed remarkable composure when not getting their usual shots, and needed to find other ways to score. I was very surprised to see the Saints play forty minutes of straight man to man defense. Albertus was longer, quicker, and more athletic, and i expected to see some zone mixed into the game, but there was none. I was impressed with the Saints doubling the post before the first dribble was taken, forcing the Falcons to shoot from someplace outside the lane. The rest of the GNAC season should be very competitive.
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Saint, Emmanuel is the class of the GNAC so far this season. Big game vs Suffolk coming up soon.
Here`s hoping for an Emmanuel victory...you deserve it for being sooooo faithful!
BACK FROM THE DEAD! AMC still has a chance to win the GNAC Title! They need to win 3 more games, starting with Lasell on Saturday in Boston.
Last night , AMC played their best game of the season by beating St. Joes-CT., 88-84.
STARS OF THE GAME go to : Liam Perryman- 12 pts, 7 rebounds & 4 blocked shots. Way to go, big guy!
Damien Grant- 15 pts.& 11 rebounds- nice game & nice turn-around this year!!!
J. Green-Younger- solid w/19 pts.
The Falcons won with a concerted defensive effort for a full 40 minutes!!! GREAT JOB, TEAM.
NO LET DOWN ON SATURDAY vs Lasell!!!!!
Here are the first rankings for the men this season: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-first
Been away from the boards for a while but I've been following the Falcons like I always have all season long. I feel like Albertus fans have become spoiled in some ways. I have talked to multiple people throughout the season and you would think we are a bottom dweller in the league! Our sustained success over the last decade has spoiled a lot of people...like our current 14-7 (6-2) record is a bad thing. This year's team is extremely talented and as Falcons25 mentioned we are 3 straight wins away from perhaps winning the regular season GNAC title and securing the #1 seed and home court advantage for the GNAC tourney.
This team is so young our only senior is starting PG Ryan Pittman. I truly believe that this year's freshman class is the best group of true freshman that Coach Oliver has ever assembled. Our biggest issue this season has been performing at our best on the road which is something that all young teams struggle with. The schedule has been strong this season and while we have missed out on a few potential quality wins, I think that these losses have made us much stronger as a team. I was concerned about having to play on the road in the GNAC tournament but if we can win our final 3 games (at LaSell, vs JWU and vs Suffolk) we wont have to worry about that and our chances of going on a run in the GNAC tourney greatly improve.
Last nights game against the Jim Calhoun led St Joes Blue Jays was the best overall game and defensive effort that we have put together all season long. If Coach Oliver can get this team to buy in night in and night out on the defensive side of the ball like that, we should be able to really do some damage at the end of the season here.
Here's to a strong finish to the regular season Falcons. Secure home court in New Haven and you stand just as good a chance as any Falcons team before you who has punched their own ticket to the big dance!!
Saints have three difficult games left, at Colby-Sawyer, home against Anna Maria and JWU. Two out of three wins would be great. Can't believe I am even saying this but " Playoffs, we are talking about Playoffs." The GNAC tournament is wide open, with several teams in the mix. Emmanuel, Albertus, St Joe Me, St Joe Conn, Suffolk, Colby-Sawyer, JWU all able to get hot and upset each other. Should be a fun tournament. Will need multiple screens to watch all the games. Is it too early to start talking about Danny Lawson as GNAC COY ? Taking the same roster that lost 22 games last year and having them in position to possibly win the GNAC is just an amazing turnaround.
Saint,
Lawson is without question the GNAC Coach of the Year. As far as I am concerned he solidified that honor weeks ago!
And if Calhoun gets it or somehow gets any votes at all it will be the biggest scham of all. His team hasnt exactly performed well consistently and I think you have to actually Coach in order to qualify so by my estimation, Glen Miller should be the one who gets the votes for St Joes CT.
Luckily COY is voted on by fellow coaching peers so I am more than certain and confident that Lawson will recieve the nod.
Well People...The GNAC Title is going down to the last week of the season. Four teams have a shot at the Title!
(Emmanuel, Suffolk, AMC, Johnson & Wales)
Suffolk is in 1st place, but needs to win 3 games, including A.M.C. this Saturday @ THE NEST!
Emmanuel, I believe, has the best chance. They play 2 home games, including playing Johnson & Wales Saturday!
AMC needs to beat Johnson & Wales and Suffolk- both games @ THE NEST
Johnson & Wales needs to win 2 road games, including vs Emmanual
WOW! We have not seen parity ,on this scale, in the GNAC forever!
FALCON FANS PACK THE NEST TUESDAY VS J. & W. & Saturday vs Suffolk
The second week Regional Rankings have been released: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-second
Well, we are down to THREE teams that can win 1st place in the GNAC!
1. If Emmanuel beats Johnson & Wales & Suffolk loses to AMC, they win!
2. If AMC beats Suffolk & Emmanuel loses to J & W, AMC wins!
3. If Suffolk beats AMC, THEY WIN!
Great game last night between AMC & Johnson & Wales! Falcons win a tight one, 88-84.
Kudos to Rayshawn Brewer for sinking 2 free throws at the end to preserve the game.
PLAY OF THE GAME: A HUGE BLOCKED SHOT by ANDREW RICE as J & W was about to tie
late in the game!
TYREEK PERKINS- STAR of THE GAME W/20 pts. as he battled cramps & fatigue!
DEVON WARNER- 17 pts. & YEOMANS WORK on defense!!!
GO FALCONS ON SATURDAY @ 3pm at THE NEST!
Saints could not pull the rabbit out of the hat today. After two big wins this week over colby-sawyer and anna maria, Saints have a cold shooting day and drop a close game to JWU 75 - 71. Very costly loss for the Saints, after the first round they will lose home court advantage. Hope they can get their magic touch back for the playoffs.
I was very impressed with JWU today. In past years JWU has been mostly a one on one team, each player trying to break down their man and get to the rim. JWU played a very different game today. The wildcats spread out the Saints on defense, moved the ball exceptionally well and knocked down one open jumper after another. Saints could not get enough stops to pull off the upset. JWU looked very good today, shooting the ball with confidence. I still think the playoffs are wide open with five or six teams capable of winning the league championship.
Saint, what a regular season finish! The playoffs are totally wide open & should be great.
Falcon fans, what a ride to another regular season championship! This team has come together since the St.Joes-West Hartford game.
The keys today & in this run are GOOD TEAM DEFENSE, MULTI-PRONGED OFFENSE & most of all being ACCOUNTABLE to EACH OTHER!
LASELL vs AMC @ THE NEST Tuesday @ 8PM. (PLEASE SHOW UP AS There WERE MORE SUFFOLK FANS THAN AMC FANS TODAY!)
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Falcons take care of business in an absolute laugher last night at The Nest. Albertus was simply to strong, to big and to fast for this Lasell team to handle. Defensivley this team is on a completely different level then alot of Albertus teams we have seen in the past. Sure we've had great individual defenders Over the years but as a team, I think this is the strongest defensive unit Oliver has assembled. When they all buy in and come out like they have over the past 4 games, they are really strong.
This team is firing on all cylinders at this point and really seem to be clicking and meshing at the right time. Thursday semi final contest aginst Emmanuel will be a great contest. The Saints got the better of us on the road in Boston earlier this season but as we all know, the Falcons are a completley different team at home and we're playing way better now than we did at that point in the season.
JWU gets upset in the first round (I'll dry my eyes later for them 😃) as well as #2 seed Suffolk in their contest against Jim Calhoun lead St Joes CT Team. A wild night in the GNAC to say the least. All 4 team standings are capable of winning this tournament but again with homecourt advantage the Falcons have to be the odds on favorites!
Saints played their first home playoff game in 10 years last night and responded with a very hard fought 90 - 83 victory over a tough Colby-Sawyer team. CS jumped on the Saints right out of the opening tap, 13 - 3, before the Saints used a quick time out to regroup and claw their way back to a 40 - 40 tie at halftime. The second half was back and forth, neither team able to pull away until the Saints made a mini 6 point run with 3 minutes left in the game. Saints foul shooting in the last two minutes saved the game for the miracle Saints and kept their playoff run alive.
Albertus is a bigger, quicker, more athletic team than the Saints and they are playing at home. It will be a difficult task for the hustling Saints but they have won games like this before. The defensive minded Albertus players will be trying to deny wing passes, so I hope the Saints respond with a lot of back cuts and back door lay ups. It is vital that the Saints control game tempo, they don't want to see a lot of Albertus run outs. Making shots will help that a lot, but easier said than done. Passing will be another key, short quick, passes, not a lot of holding and dribbling. Should be a fun game to watch.
Watching this conference from afar (let's be honest, watching Coach Calhoun) I wasn't at all surprised by St. Joe CT getting an upset. They saw the same team within a week and Calhoun has always been an excellent tournament coach. I'm not sure they can win it but I would be surprised in the slightest. 50 years of D1 coaching on the sidelines makes a bit of a difference.
The third public NCAA Division III regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 20, 2019, 03:37:44 PM
The third public NCAA Division III regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Thanks Dave, anyway you can update or check the "NCAA Data Sheet" links though? They all seem to be sourcing to the midd atlantic region? Could be me, I'm by no means technically savy 😄
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on February 20, 2019, 05:43:07 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 20, 2019, 03:37:44 PM
The third public NCAA Division III regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2019/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Thanks Dave, anyway you can update or check the "NCAA Data Sheet" links though? They all seem to be sourcing to the midd atlantic region? Could be me, I'm by no means technically savy 😄
I should not have said all. It appears it is just happening for the Northeast, East and West
I'll check ... I might have screwed up the links while trying to do it enmass.
UPDATE: Northeast was the only one I spotted with a glitch. Fixed. Sorry about that.
(I fixed some in the interim. :) )
Coach Calhoun hasn't been on the bench in the second half, does anyone know why?
Great Victory by AMC vs Emmanuel! The victory was secured by turning the Saints over numerous times
& converting often via these turnovers! GREAT TEAM VICTORY!
NEXT UP: THE ST. JOES BLUE JAYS in the GNAC CHAMPIONSHIP SATURDAY AT 1PM @ THE NEST!
When the season started back in November and I saw that the Saints had the same players as last year I was hoping for a 6 win season. I figured the new coach could at least double the win total from the previous year. Watching the Saints put together a competitive 18 win season was beyond all expectations. Seeing the ball actually move around the perimeter before taking a shot was itself a miracle. Playing meaningful games in February for the first time in ten years was a success. Hope the Saints get an ECAC game next week. They certainly deserve one.
Good Luck to the Falcons in the championship game. Their defense certainly was the difference this year.
Unfortunately, Emmanuel withdrew their ECAC membership a few years ago when the ECAC decided to go to a one champion format for all team sports. Great season for the Emmanuel men, though. I stayed home on Thursday to watch all 4 GNAC semifinal games (men and women) on my new Roku TV.
I tried to cover the ECAC men's and women's basketball tournaments last year on the d3 boards, but no one else was interested. Brandeis is one of only a few New England d3 schools that still has an ECAC membership. The Brandeis men did finish over .500 this season with their new coach, Jean Bain. I expect that Brandeis will get an ECAC bid on Monday. Potential Wed night opponents for Brandeis would be SUNY Cobleskill, John Jay, Brooklyn, or Rutgers-Newark, IMO. The ECAC Final 8 men's sites the past 2 years were held at Penn State Behrend in 2017 (won by Stockton), and at Wilkes last year (won by Widener-- made notable by the Baruch men's basketball team bus being stranded in the Poconos for over 24 hours by bad weather.)
The only other New England d3 college on the men's side to declare for ECACs this year was Maine Maritime (finished under .500-- not eligible).
In short, the ECAC only crowns one champion for men's basketball now, and there is no longer an ECAC New England region (New Engand is part of the new ECAC North region for purposes of individual and team honors).
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Coach Calhoun hasn't been on the bench in the second half, does anyone know why?
I will let Coach Calhoun comment for himself on his personal health issues. USJ is fortunate to have Glen Miller as an Associate Head Coach. The commentator on the Monks streaming feed did not make a huge deal out of the situation.
St Joe's Bluejays leading at halftume, 44-37, at the Nest in New Haven, CT.
Coach Jim Calhoun on the bench for the second half. Albertus Magnus opens 2nd half on a 4-0 run. I am watching this on my Roku TV.
The cool kids of the GNAC are champions again! Albertus Magnus wins the GNAC AQ, 81-77, over St Joe's CT. .
Great job by USJ to make the title game in their first year as a program.
Looked like a momentum change when Albertus switched from man to man to a zone defense. It allowed the Albertus big men to be in better rebounding position and also allowed the guards to close out on perimeter shooters quicker. Good coaching move. Good luck in the NCAA games.
Great point, Saint re: the defensive shift! AMC is a mentally tough team & every game it is someone new
who steps up & makes the big play! Tonight, it was Damian Grant who was a beast under the basket with
tough hoop after tough hoop. Albertus is just a GREAT TEAM!!! ALL THE BEST IN NCAA.
What a day to be a Falcon!! Outstanding effort by the Falcons and a gutsy performance by all the players and Coach Oliver. St Joes competed well and should be commended for what they accomplished in their first season as a program but the better and tougher team won today. The experience and toughness of the Falcons was without question the biggest outlier in this game.
We did not play well in the 1st half but did just enough to hang around and keep the game within range. We played much better in the 2nd half and as I said our experience and toughness showed. St Joes was simply too soft. Damian Grant was an animal today! Playing his best game as a Falcon to date. Davon Warner found his stroke and nailed some big 3's and Ryan Pittman continued his dominance and leadership as the heartbeat of this team! I have to say, we've all been very fortunate to see some great players come through this program over the years. But I think I can honestly say that Pittman might be the toughest player Oliver has ever had.
Lastly, I think its about time for everyone outside of Albertus to start talking about what Coach Mitch Oliver continues to do year in and year out. This guy can flat out Coach and if you watched the game today he OUT COACHED Jim Calhoun. From inbound plays, to his defensive shift to zone and the last long pass to essentially seal the victory. I am certainly not downplaying what Jim Calhoun has accomplished. Hell, he's a HOF'er for a reason and I am a huge UCONN fan and regard him as a GOD but all that was talked about since Thursday was Calhoun, Calhoun, Calhoun.......How about 8 straight GNAC final appearances for Oliver and 8 GNAC titles overall now in 12 years!!! That's insane! No matter what your conference is that is an incredible streak of consistency and dominance when you know that every single night you are getting every team in your conferences best shot. I get it, Its Jim Calhoun, so his name is going to carry the ratings but not a lot of love for Coach Oliver. He deserves way more!!
This is all you need to know about Mitch Oliver and the Albertus program. Which pretty much has been forgotten. Prior to Mitch arriving, albertus was the bottom feeders of the gnac. 2 win seasons and literally 7 men on the roster. Hell some of my baseball teammates got asked to play just to sit on the bench if someone were to foul out and get hurt, and we wouldn't be down to 4. The first gnac title under Mitch I was still a student, and man it seemed so surreal. He said he was going to do it and he did. Ppl don't like his antics on the sideline and that's fine, but you can't knock his accomplishments. I mean we went from a 2-24 team to a sweet 16 appearance as well as a few NCAA wins, and 8 gnac titles. What Mitch has done here is simply AMAZING
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I live in Middletown, DE - it's got to be almost exactly halfway between New Haven and Newport News. Anyone coming down on Thursday, let me know, we can grab lunch or something.
6- Hour drive....Thanks anyway! I`ll be watching on-line & hopefully enjoy another AMC miracle like
the William Patterson game.
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 25, 2019, 01:00:06 PM
I live in Middletown, DE - it's got to be almost exactly halfway between New Haven and Newport News. Anyone coming down on Thursday, let me know, we can grab lunch or something.
Ryan, I wish it wasn't such a long drive! Unfortunately I wont be able to make the 8 and a half hour ride down to Newport News for this game. I was really looking forward to maybe playing in a closer draw geographically but yet again I got my hopes up! For the record I am not blaming the NCAA or anyone, just a blanket statement of disappointment. I have been following this tournament long enough now and fortunately my Falcons have made quite a few trips over the past 10 seasons thanks to Mitch Oliver so I understand how difficult it is to place these teams in such a way that geographically it makes sense.
This is certainly an interesting matchup for the Falcons! CNU is a fantastic team but I think we matchup with them a bit better than most people might think. Im not saying we are going to win the game, what I am saying is that I think we have just as good a chance as any to pull off the upset!
The men's committee has worked hard to actually get a lot of teams as close to that 500 as possible. I know it makes travel tougher for fans, but it makes the tourney feel a little more national and gives the players new experiences. We talked on Hoopsville last night about NJCU going to Marietta - a bunch of kids from Jersey headed to the middle of appalachia will be both an athletic and social experience.
While it's an admirable objective, I consider it overrated and doubt anyone will achieve it in view of a focus on survive and advance and get back to campus after the weekend. Recommend that they can accomplish most of same objective with a trip limit of 250 miles(4-hr drive), at least for the schools from the Atlantic to Ohio and Massachusetts to Virginia, to the benefit of players, families, students, and fans.
Quote from: ronk on February 26, 2019, 11:07:04 PM
While it's an admirable objective, I consider it overrated and doubt anyone will achieve it in view of a focus on survive and advance and get back to campus after the weekend. Recommend that they can accomplish most of same objective with a trip limit of 250 miles(4-hr drive), at least for the schools from the Atlantic to Ohio and Massachusetts to Virginia, to the benefit of players, families, students, and fans.
Ron,
We might as well go back to the 1990s then and not even try to have a real bracket. ???
I'll just add: if you're coming from up north, you may want to spring for an extra night in the hotel and come Thursday. We're (south jersey/delaware) supposed to get snow from 3am-9am Friday - and we don't have very many snowplows in this part of the country. It won't be bad from a New England perspective, but the roads won't be clear and people around here don't know how to drive in it.
Hard to believe, but the Saints coach did not win COY. Not sure what else he would have to do? He took the exact same players who lost 22 games last year and turned them around into 18 game winners and 4 points away from the GNAC first place finish. He did this without a star player, no Saint made first team all GNAC which is correct, but that makes the team accomplishment even better.
It is not just about the number of wins, it is the way the Saints were winning games this year, by playing like a team, sharing the ball, taking only open shots, and playing a full forty minutes of defense. That is the effect of good coaching on the same players who lost 22 games last season. Not sure what influenced the voting. Maybe the coaches who lost home games to the formerly lowly Saints were so embarrassed about the losses that they could not bring themselves to vote for the Saint's coach. Sometimes it is hard to swallow a loss that you have already checked in the win column before the game is played.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 26, 2019, 11:07:49 PM
Quote from: ronk on February 26, 2019, 11:07:04 PM
While it's an admirable objective, I consider it overrated and doubt anyone will achieve it in view of a focus on survive and advance and get back to campus after the weekend. Recommend that they can accomplish most of same objective with a trip limit of 250 miles(4-hr drive), at least for the schools from the Atlantic to Ohio and Massachusetts to Virginia, to the benefit of players, families, students, and fans.
Ron,
We might as well go back to the 1990s then and not even try to have a real bracket. ???
This. This 100%!
Well Falcon fans, its the night before the big 1st round matchup and I cant help but continue to sit here and think that maybe, just maybe we have enough chips to pull this game out. CNU is loaded with talent and they are a well coached team, there is no denying that. But every time I stop and think about it I say to myself, "well shoot, we are too."
If you take where this Falcon team started at the beginning of the season to where they are now, the difference is quite remarkable. This might be Coach Oliver's best coaching season yet. It took a while, this teams depth is outstanding, he stuck to playing a lot of players (especially young freshman) and he has gotten tremendous production out of all of them include our key 3 returning players in Pittman, Perkins and Green-Younger not to mention the emergence of Damian Grant in the low post. He found the right mix and rotation of players and this Falcon team looks completley different than the team we all saw back in Nov/Dec.
Tomorrow matchup will be extremely tough but if we bring the same defensive intensity that we showed in the GNAC tourney to the NCAA tourney I think we stand a really good chance of pulling off the first round upset.
Lets Go Falcons....Make us all proud back here in New Haven. I know I speak for a lot of fans when we say we wish we could be there for you guys!
Quote from: Saint-Paul on February 27, 2019, 12:21:06 PM
Hard to believe, but the Saints coach did not win COY. Not sure what else he would have to do? He took the exact same players who lost 22 games last year and turned them around into 18 game winners and 4 points away from the GNAC first place finish. He did this without a star player, no Saint made first team all GNAC which is correct, but that makes the team accomplishment even better.
It is not just about the number of wins, it is the way the Saints were winning games this year, by playing like a team, sharing the ball, taking only open shots, and playing a full forty minutes of defense. That is the effect of good coaching on the same players who lost 22 games last season. Not sure what influenced the voting. Maybe the coaches who lost home games to the formerly lowly Saints were so embarrassed about the losses that they could not bring themselves to vote for the Saint's coach. Sometimes it is hard to swallow a loss that you have already checked in the win column before the game is played.
Saint,
I was baffled by this decision as well at first but when you look at what Coach Juron accomplished this season at Suffolk I think it was an equally impressive job. Coach Lawson will no doubt have his day, it just wasnt cut out for him quite yet in his first season. Juron has turned the Suffolk program around too, not nearly as quickly as Lawson but I think the Coaches around the league gave Juron his due......I have no doubts that Lawson will be right at the front of the line for next season.
Lol albertus has 9 fouls in first 5 mins of game. I mean do we play that much of a different game up here? Lol fn joke: 9 fouls to 2 lmao
Well that was embarrassing! AMC Falcons were totally outclassed & outmanned.
When will our players learn not to commit STUPID FOULS!!!!! J.Green-Younger
just looked like a punk when he dropped the ball on a fallen CNU guard. GEE, I
guess you showed him!
In the words of Trump...SAD..VERY SAD!
Haven't been on for a long time; user name issued. Great GNAC season. This was a cery competitive league and unfortunately, still didn't help Albertus get a better draw. But great season. Albertus got betteras season went on and Mitch has a nice young group of players. Hopefully, they take care of each other and develop. Could be a dangerous regional team in two years.
Saint, wow what a difference a coach makes. The program will only get better as players continue to play in his system. Suffolk has been improving each year. You still have St Joe Maine, JWU around also. And of course ST Joe CT will be a force. 6 really competitive programs! Plus the new model of only playing in conference opponent once allows for teams to schedule a lot more games against NESCAC, Little East, and NJACAC teams. If the conference begins winning against those conferences than you'll begin to see GNAC draw better in the tournament. It looks like the future is bright with these coaches.
Yes, I think you are correct. With all the recent coaching changes, and new team additions to the GNAC just making the conference playoffs has become very competitive. Any team, maybe with the exception of the 7 th and 8 th seed was capable of winning the conference tournament. I thought Albertus did a nice job of putting together their offense and defense the last three weeks of the season to capture the number 1 seed and home court advantage, which proved to be very important in the finals. Looking forward to another competitive season next year.
Article on Jim Calhoun
http://www.espn.com/espnw/feature/26247419/the-return-jim-calhoun-leaves-st-joe-identity-crisis?addata=espn:ncb:index
Oh boy, Hoop Dirt is reporting that one of finalists for the D-2 Assumption College job is a successful D-3 head coach in his first year. The one thing the Saints program doesn't need right now is instability. Keeping an eye on this one.
Quote from: Saint-Paul on March 29, 2019, 11:54:51 AM
Oh boy, Hoop Dirt is reporting that one of finalists for the D-2 Assumption College job is a successful D-3 head coach in his first year. The one thing the Saints program doesn't need right now is instability. Keeping an eye on this one.
Actually ... the hint was TWO DIII coaches who had successful first years.
I am not sure a DIII coach gets the job ... but I've been wrong before.
Albertus Magnus College Basketball Recruiting News!
2019-20 commitments:
1. Marquan Watson- guard/forward(6-3, 200lbs.)- (Waterbury Career Academy)- 23 pts/16 Reb./2 blocks per game
2-time All State- played in the Naugatuck Valley League
(I`ve seen him play- very athletic & strong- IMMEDIATE IMPACT PLAYER IN THE GNAC!
2.Jack Ryan- guard(6-2, 185)- (Stratford High School)- 16 pts/7 Reb./7 assists per game
2018 All State- 2-Time ALL SWC- 1000 pt. career scorer
(have not seen him play)
Jack Ryan's pretty good. The boys coach where I'm at (Fairfield Warde) and the Stratford coach are brothers so they scrimmage every year. Good 3 point shooter can drive if he needs too.
Apparently, this was announced last month and I missed it until just recently. Saints coach, Danny Lawson, was named Northeast Regional COY. I was so focused on the GNAC awards that I completely forgot to check the regional awards. This is a really big honor to be voted regional COY by the coaches outside of the GNAC, especially when some schools like Hamilton, Nichols, Williams, and MIT, had just outstanding seasons. I was glad to see that the other coaches around New England recognized what Coach Lawson accomplished in such a short period of time. The Saints program had been in the basement for so long I never even bothered to check regional awards. I guess from now on I will have to start looking at the regional awards also.
Albertus Magnus College basketball- We`ve got another commitment for the 2019-20 season!
Justus Washington- 6`,4" Center- Hamden High School- I`ve got nothing else!!!
Justice Washington was 2nd team- All S.C.C.- Hamden High School
Strong 6-4 player who excels on the offensive glass!
We`ll see soon enough.
Exciting News for fans of Albertus Magnus College! Robert Simmons of Classical in Hartford, CT. will be joining the Falcons
in the Fall!
Robert Simmons: an exciting 6`, 3" Guard who averaged: 28 Pts., 15 Reb. & 9 assists per game .
The competition in the NCCC isn`t the best, but he was a 1000 pt. scorer & 2-time All-NCCC.
Mitch Oliver is doing a great job building with 4-year students. The Future is bright indeed!
Great stuff Falcons25! Always good to hear about future Falcons in the off season. I had heard that Oliver was hitting the JUCO trail hard for interior talent to pair with the great 1's and 2's we have returning. You seem to have some great connections. Any word on this??
I feel like we are 1 back to the basket scorer and defender away from being a force next season in the Northeast Region considering we lost only 1 senior from last years squad.
GNAC is getting a little smaller ... https://www.cccathletics.com/sports/general/2018-19/Releases/SUFAnnouncement
Falcons 25, you need to work your magic.....I heard through a source that Oliver has landed 3 JUCO transfers. I was told they are the best JUCO transfers since Eian and Vic?!?!? One is an All American and the other is a big time forward with CT roots who was a high level commit? I could not get any names of who they might be??
Work your contacts!! Like I said in an earlier post, I know Oliver always likes to hit the JUCO trail and if these guys are in fact coming to Albertus, I really think we have a lot to be excited about.
I have one "suspect", KEVIN SMITH- JUCO ALL AMERICA- SUNY-Sullivan County- (6`, 2" Guard- 185 lbs.)
played with Tyreek Perkins @ Putnam Science (also Career-New Haven)- played one year @ Pace
before thriving @ S.U.N.Y.- Sullivan (17 pts 5 rebs per game)
He`s a New Haven resident & a terrific player.
Latest recruiting news for Albertus Magnus College:
I have confirmation that : Donovan Guess, a 6-2 guard out of Mercer County Community College will be joining the Falcons in the Fall.
Donovan is a JUCO 2nd team All-American scoring over 1000 pts in 2 yrs. @ Mercer. (19 pts per game last yr.)
Great outside shooter, who can take it to the rim too. Best news: this team averaged 18 assists per game, so I would think he is a selfless
team player!!!! (Averaged 40 pts. per game in high school in New Jersey in 2016-17)
Awesome news Falcon25! Guess looks like an extremely talented played who will bring a great mix of experience and athleticism to the team this year. Once again, Oliver is showing why he is the best coach in the GNAC and one of the best in the Northeast. There is no such thing as rebuilding at Albertus, we only reload! Year after year because of Olivers incredible recruiting abilities we are always a top favorite to win the GNAC and advance to the NCAA's.
Next up is to find out who the big is that Oliver secured. Supposedly a local kid who was a JUCO stud and received D1 offers?? Falcons25, this is your next mission!!!
OK! I`ll see what I can find re: a stud #5!!!
In the meantime, AMC has a couple of interesting teams that they will play for the first time.
GEORGE FOX- OREGON is coming to the Nest on Friday, 12/6/2019 @ 2PM! This has been a terrific
team for years! (The next day, they play @ St.Joe`s in West Hartford)
The Falcons open the 2nd semester by playing in a tournament @ York College on Saturday, 1/4/2020. They also play the next day too.
the George Fox men's program seems to alternate between mediocre and downright kinda bad. It's their women that are perennial killers.
GFU-AMC will be a great matchup. Very similar philosophy, I think. George Fox plays a little more defense, but they like to move. It should be entertaining, at least.
AMC News: The 2nd game(1-5-20) of the York College tournament is against "old friend" PURCHASE!
No more news, but I`ll keep digging!
AMC fans- Partial schedule is up!
See the GNAC site & you will get a partial schedule for the upcoming 2019-20 season.
Notable games: George Fox & WPI at home!
Johnson & Wales away!
Now it looks like we play Coast Guard-2nd game of the York College tournament in January.
Interesting late addition to St. Joe's roster:
https://newenglandrecruitingreport.com/in-the-news/taelon-martin-to-play-for-calhoun-at-st-joes
Complete AMC schedule is up: Highlights! (see D-3 hoops-teams-Albertus Magnus)
1. Season opening tournament @ Hood College- Frederick, Maryland- 11/8 & 9- teams T.B.D.
2. Home games: Williams on 12/1 , ST. Lawrence on 12/14, ST. Joes-Me.- 1/25 & St. Joes- CT.- 1/29.
3. George Fox- Oregon & W.P.I.- back-to- back days!
I know Mitch must have recruited a center of the Future!(?) Any idea anyone?
https://www.d3hoops.com/teams/Albertus_Magnus/Men/2019-20/index
AMC Recruiting news:
Nigel Carter- Huntington College- California is : athletic, 6-3 Wing(good 3-pt shot) High School: St. Anthony`s- L.I.
where he averaged 17 pts per game.
Midnight Madness scheduled for: 10/17/19 @ 7pm
Donovan Guess may have left school!(?)
AMC News: Opening tournament in Frederick, Maryland
Friday: AMC vs Lynchburg
Hood College vs Southern Virginia University
Saturday: Consolation game
Championship game
Did anybody else see this story on St. Joseph's and Coach Calhoun? Thoughts?
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/jim-calhoun-sexual-discrimination-accusation
I do not love Coach Calhoun like everyone seems to, in this state. That said, this could be a gold digger.
See you soon enough, Jim @ THE NEST!
AMC recruit news:
1. Jacqual Gertrude- 6-2 guard/forward- True Freshman- Dickenson High School- Jersey City, N.J.- Ave. 16.5 pts. & 5.5 rebs. per game
2.Jon Delgado- 5-9 point guard- Hudson Catholic- Jersey City, N.J.- voted best Junior N.J. Guard- played in this years J.C.C tournament
in Bridgeport- Ave. 7.5 pts. per game & is a "lock-down" defender. (TIME WILL TELL)
3. Isaiah Lewis- Guard- Hillhouse- 2015- nice scorer then! (Have no idea what he`s been doing since?)
Key to real success: Damian Grant (Senior) has to keep scoring & rebounding from the low post He was THE REASON for our long winning streak
in the 2nd semester.
EXHIBITION GAME vs BRIDGEWATER STATE @ 1pm on 10/27 @ THE NEST.
Thanks for all the info and news on the Falcons this off season Falcons25! I am looking forward to this year! With the players we have returning on top of who is coming in this could be a very special team yet again. We lose 1 player in Ryan Pittman. Ryan was a warrior and without a doubt one of the toughest players I have ever seen under Coach Oliver and one of my overall favorite players to come through the program. A 4 year starter who deserved all the success he had but to put it bluntly, he is a guy that Oliver could replace and it appears he already has with some of the recruits that have joined the program.
I get a kick out of some of the people I have heard and things I have read down here in southern ct. All the talk is about St Joes and Jim Calhoun. And I am referring strictly to basketball talk, not the other talk that has recently drawn attention to Calhoun and the St Joes program. They have a very good team that was made up of almost all freshman last year and went on a run to the GNAC finals but everyone seems to have forgotten yet again that Albertus and Coach Oliver own the GNAC. I am not saying that we cant be beat, we certainly can, anyone can be beat, but we are the reigning champs for a reason and again return everyone except for Pittman who I mentioned above.
I'll be doing a more in depth breakdown of the Falcons soon once we get a little closer to the season. I heard via some folks on twitter that Albertus Madness took place last night and true freshman Marquan Watson threw down some incredible dunks and even leaped over the Albertus president to win the dunk contest. I have heard that this kid is going to be an absolute beast once he finds his way and also Rob Tindley who was a transfer last year that sat out the entire season due to injury is supposedly a real game changer when it comes to getting out and running the offense in transition. Great vision and handles who can really get hot and is really crafty around the rim for his size. Time will tell and it will be interesting to see who Oliver goes with to start the year at the 1. I believe the competition will come down to Tindley and transfer Isiah Lewis. Green-Younger, Perkins, Grant and Perryman will no doubt be the other 4.
This team is deep with talent and a ton of scorers coming off the bench! Cant wait for the year to start!
Where did Isaiah Lewis transfer from? All I know is he was a good player @ Hillhouse 4 years ago.
Jacqual Gertrude is a stud from Dickenson High in Jersey City- remember the name!
Too, Jon Delgado is an underrated point guard from Hudson Catholic. Voted top guard in N.J. his
junior year @ Hudson Catholic.
I was at Midnight Madness, Marquan Watson is the REAL DEAL from Waterbury. (Next great AMC player!)
Perhaps a bump in the road for the St. Joe's story, some pretty significant players apparently did not return, in particular, Chris Childs:
http://www.usjbluejays.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/roster
Do we know where Childs went? He's impossible to find online because of that other basketball playing Chris Childs.
He is playing JUCO. I'm guessing hoping to go D1? Indian Hills is a major feeder ....
https://www.usbasket.com/NCAA3/basketball-Transfers.asp
I was not at the scrimmage this past Sunday but heard that Albertus played well and steam rolled Bridgewater St. Cant wait for the season to start!
Does anyone know if Hood College provides a quality broadcast? I will take anything but was just curious if they have audio play by play to go along with the video as well? Maybe Dave, Pat or Ryan can help out with this question?? First 2 games of the season....would be nice to have a good clear view with some commentary!
AMC news: Exhibition game @ Rhode Island College on 11/3/19.
Point Guard "battle" is between: Rob Tindley, Jon Delgado & Isaiah Lewis
First game vs Lynchburg University(picked to win their conference!)
Nothing listed, so far, re: media coverage.
Quote from: Falcons 25 on November 01, 2019, 11:15:11 PM
AMC news: Exhibition game @ Rhode Island College on 11/3/19.
Point Guard "battle" is between: Rob Tindley, Jon Delgado & Isaiah Lewis
First game vs Lynchburg University(picked to win their conference!)
Nothing listed, so far, re: media coverage.
Falcons 25,
Lynchburg is not picked to win their conference. They were tied with Washington and Lee to come in 5th place in the ODAC. Guilford was picked to win the conference with Randolph-Macon in the 2nd spot. These were the same 2 teams that were at the top of the ODAC last year. Here's the article from the Guilford website:
https://www.grdquakers.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/releases/20191024ozlrseuilfo
Still a good non-conference game for the Falcons as any team in the ODAC in the upper half of the conference usually helps your SOS win or lose. Last year Lynchburg was 3rd in the conference with a 20-6 record, but lost in the first round of the conference playoffs.
I'd like to know what class AMC lists Isaiah Lewis as. 4 years since graduating high school is an awfully long time. 1 year of prep + 2 years of JUCO still leaves an extra year unaccounted for.
Quote from: magicman on November 02, 2019, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: Falcons 25 on November 01, 2019, 11:15:11 PM
AMC news: Exhibition game @ Rhode Island College on 11/3/19.
Point Guard "battle" is between: Rob Tindley, Jon Delgado & Isaiah Lewis
First game vs Lynchburg University(picked to win their conference!)
Nothing listed, so far, re: media coverage.
Falcons 25,
Lynchburg is not picked to win their conference. They were tied with Washington and Lee to come in 5th place in the ODAC. Guilford was picked to win the conference with Randolph-Macon in the 2nd spot. These were the same 2 teams that were at the top of the ODAC last year. Here's the article from the Guilford website:
https://www.grdquakers.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/releases/20191024ozlrseuilfo
Still a good non-conference game for the Falcons as any team in the ODAC in the upper half of the conference usually helps your SOS win or lose. Last year Lynchburg was 3rd in the conference with a 20-6 record, but lost in the first round of the conference playoffs.
Perhaps Falcons25 was referring to Hood College? The host school? I caught that they were picked as preseason 1st place in there respected conference. Either way, this looks like a great 2 games to start off the season with. Playing strong opponents early is always a plus IMO. Win or lose, this is a nice trip for the Falcons to take early. We will really see what we have early on in the season with these matchups.
Quote from: 7express on November 02, 2019, 02:19:26 AM
I'd like to know what class AMC lists Isaiah Lewis as. 4 years since graduating high school is an awfully long time. 1 year of prep + 2 years of JUCO still leaves an extra year unaccounted for.
7, I heard that we are going to have 2 years with Lewis. He is a junior. Its my understanding that he only participated in one season of JUCO basketball? I also found out that Lewis was a standout performer in the Hartford ProAm this summer. All real basketball fans from CT know how great the competition is in this event so to hear that made me really excited for what kind of player we might have on our hands for this season.
Less than a week away now!
Quote from: D3HoopJunkie on November 02, 2019, 10:45:36 PM
Quote from: magicman on November 02, 2019, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: Falcons 25 on November 01, 2019, 11:15:11 PM
AMC news: Exhibition game @ Rhode Island College on 11/3/19.
Point Guard "battle" is between: Rob Tindley, Jon Delgado & Isaiah Lewis
First game vs Lynchburg University(picked to win their conference!)
Nothing listed, so far, re: media coverage.
Falcons 25,
Lynchburg is not picked to win their conference. They were tied with Washington and Lee to come in 5th place in the ODAC. Guilford was picked to win the conference with Randolph-Macon in the 2nd spot. These were the same 2 teams that were at the top of the ODAC last year. Here's the article from the Guilford website:
https://www.grdquakers.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/releases/20191024ozlrseuilfo
Still a good non-conference game for the Falcons as any team in the ODAC in the upper half of the conference usually helps your SOS win or lose. Last year Lynchburg was 3rd in the conference with a 20-6 record, but lost in the first round of the conference playoffs.
Perhaps Falcons25 was referring to Hood College? The host school? I caught that they were picked as preseason 1st place in there respected conference. Either way, this looks like a great 2 games to start off the season with. Playing strong opponents early is always a plus IMO. Win or lose, this is a nice trip for the Falcons to take early. We will really see what we have early on in the season with these matchups.
Possibly, he had Hood in mind as you are correct, they were a preseason #1 pick in their conference. You may not get to play them though, unless you both win or both lose. Southern Virginia, the team Hood plays on the first day of the tournament, was pretty bad last year (4-22), so I'm guessing they are fodder for the home team, allowing Hood to reach the championship game the next day. The Falcons will probably have to beat Lynchburg to get a chance to play Hood. I hope you do and win both games.
So Sorry! I did have Hood in mind as #1 in their conference.
What J.C. did Lewis play at? Was it Gateway in New Haven?
The season is almost here! (be nice to have the AMC roster before Friday`s game!!!)
Thanks for that Junkie, I figure he'd be a junior, maybe sneak in a sophomore status if he only played 1 year of JUCO and than sat out 2 years with a full job, etc. I think that's how Michael Jensen of Western Connecticut was able to play and still had eligibility even at age 23 or 24. Anyone know if the roster is up yet?? I want to know if there's any other FCIAC/Southwestern CT kids on the roster.
As long as a kid isnt a fulltime college student his eligibility clock stops, i played with him and Jensen was a freshman when I was a senior and then he took time off at one point. Happens every year in the LEC especially. That's how you reload instead of rebuilt. Btw past colonials like will jarrett and dewayne dickens were at least 5 years older then Jensen. Marquan watson is the real deal for AMC.
Saints finally post the new roster for this year. Only four new freshman on the team, none of which are big men. I thought they could have used a good big man role player to come off the bench and spell the starters in case of foul trouble. Well, I guess the current bigs will have to log a lot of court time and stay out of foul trouble. Let's hope the freshman guards are good 3 pt shooters. The other GNAC coaches did not pick Saints very high in pre season poll. Maybe the Saints can surprise the conference again this year.
Good Luck Saint, it is going to be a competitive GNAC again this year w/Emmanuel right in it!
St. Joe`s of Maine is a definite contender that no one seems to be talking about. Suffolk & J & W
will be right there till the end!
I can hardly wait for tomorrow! Go Falcons!
It's Gameday People!!!
This is a great opening contest for the Falcons. Lynchburg is a very well coached team and is always competitive. This tournament in general provides the Falcons with some quality opponents early which I think will only help this team moving forward. Regarless of the outcome, these 2 games will give Coach Oliver a lot of material to work on and assess.
I believe the starting 5 will be Tindley, Perkins, Green-Younger, Grant and Big Liam! I am going with Tindley over Lewis because I can only assume that Tindley might have a slight advantage over Lewis in knowing the offense and play design being that Tindley had an entire season last year to observe and take it all in vs Lewis who only arrived on campus this summer. Again, only a hunch, we'll see ourselves in less than 11 hours now!
Major contributions off the bench will come from Isiah Lewis, Andrew Rice, Davon Warner and Terry Dawkins. I also think we'll see both Marquan Watson and Justice Washington get some time as well as they start to get a feel for the college game.
Lets hope the broadcast is well streamed and the Falcons come out soaring!!!
Also, good luck to the Saints this year Saint-Paul. I really thought they belonged hire on the preseason poll.
Since the opener is today, think the roster has been posted yet, or will you have to get a program at the game to see the roster (which true story I had to do with the Western Connecticut women one year)?? I checked I think it was Wednesday and it still wasn't updated.
AMC vs Lynchburg- Final: 87-78 Lynchburg.
I know that it is only game #1, BUT can we get a DEFENSIVE REBOUND, FALCONS!!!!!
Lynchburg had as many DEFENSIVE REBOUNDS (34) as AMC got total!!!!!
OVERALL: LYNCHBURG: 51 vs AMC: 34 (just in case you didn`t see the previous line!)
FREETHROWS: AMC : 15-28 (Mitch, when they go back to New Haven- EVERY PLAYER
NEEDS TO SHOOT AT LEAST 50 FREE THROWS PER PRACTICE)
If you want to beat the better teams, you have got to take care of the parts of the game
that decide the FINAL SCORE!
Saturday Night Final: AMC crushes S.Virginia (score not important)
AMC, to a man, came out & played great defense, especially in the first half.
They won the rebound battle by one, but did a lot better on the DEFENSIVE BOARDS!!!!
Offense was spurred by a host of steals (18, I think) Too, they shot well from the floor,
in particular from 3. (STILL CAN`T SHOOT FREE THROWS!!!!)
WHERE WAS TERRY DAWKINS? (DNP BOTH GAMES)
Quote from: Falcons 25 on November 09, 2019, 09:05:46 PM
Saturday Night Final: AMC crushes S.Virginia (score not important)
AMC, to a man, came out & played great defense, especially in the first half.
They won the rebound battle by one, but did a lot better on the DEFENSIVE BOARDS!!!!
Offense was spurred by a host of steals (18, I think) Too, they shot well from the floor,
in particular from 3. (STILL CAN`T SHOOT FREE THROWS!!!!)
WHERE WAS TERRY DAWKINS? (DNP BOTH GAMES)
This whole tourney was nuts. AMC crushed SVA, which took Hood to the limit the night before, only for Hood to just kill Lynchburg, who handled AMC alright the night before.
First games of the year by AMC were a bit Up & Down! (to say the least.)
Mitch has a lot of new players that he needs to play to see what he has as
far as useful players. This was the cause for most of their play this weekend.
(no excuse for poor free throw shooting or bad defense in game #1.)
That said, this team could be a terror on defense if they set their minds to it!
(we will see a lot of steals & easy baskets this year)
NEXT GAME: Leslie College- Tuesday- 7pm @ THE NEST!
Hugh comeback win for the Saints tonight in their season opener at Dean College, 99 - 95. Saints ran into a buzz saw tonight. Dean came out hitting three after three to jump on the Saints 37 - 15 before the game was 10 minutes old. Saints defense was not that bad but the Dean shooters were hitting from two feet behind the arc, with a defender right in front of them. Saints maintained their composure and started chipping away with good possessions, good ball movement, and timely rebounding. Saints took their first lead of the game with 2 minutes to play and held on for a stunning upset. Dean players were shaking their heads in disbelief after the game. Dean finished with 19 made threes. Saints had several players in double figures and really shared the ball like an experienced, veteran team.
Odd for Eastern and WPI to meet in consolation game. But good bounce back win for the Engineers today. Nichols v NEC a strong early non NEWMAC non NESCAC game.
Quote from: WPI89 on November 16, 2019, 03:35:30 PM
Odd for Eastern and WPI to meet in consolation game. But good bounce back win for the Engineers today. Nichols v NEC a strong early non NEWMAC non NESCAC game.
Without Carlos Gonzales, the offensive fluidity of last year, was lacking this weekend. 3pt% was horrible vs Nichols and WPI and defense leaves a lot to be desired. Still no dominant post player! Geitner et al has their work cut out for them this year. Still early though!
Albertus Magnus "player development":
Justice Washington- a legit post player offensively- nice low post moves & aggressive! Time will tell if his fine play
continues against : Keene state, Williams, etc.
Isaiah Lewis- smooth guard with the right inclination to penetrate when possible, but can "stick" the J too!
Terry Dawkins- 6-4, 220 lb. "force" to be reckoned with, especially in the GNAC.
Rob Tindley- starting point guard- lightning quick on both sides of the ball & will cement his hold on this position.
Time will tell, but this team is only going to get better
NEXT UP: @ KEENE STATE TUESDAY!
Another big come from behind win for the Saints on the road over a tough Westfield State team, 77 - 68. Westfield started the game with a lot of energy on defense and held the Saints scoreless for the first 3:30 seconds of the first half. Saints didn't panic, and after a time out came out and started to claw their way back into the game. Saints again used good ball movement, good shot selection, and timely rebounding to stay close until they took their final lead late in the second half. Cannot overstate the obvious, Saints have no star players, they just move the ball very well, get everybody involved, and take good shots, and go after loose balls and loose rebounds like they are important. This is very impressive because the Saints lost their best shooters and best defender / rebounder to graduation last year. I thought the Saints would be lacking in those categories this year but they are not. They just plugged in last year's subs into this years line up and they are doing a good job. Keep it up.
Huge game for this Falcons team tomorrow night. They need to go on the road on a weeknight and prove that they can beat a quality opponent in Keene State. There is no reason why the energy level shouldn't be extremely high right out of the gate for this one. I think the Falcons have looked great this year but they have had stretches where they come out slow in games like this on the road over the past few seasons. Come out, show up and play hard for 40 minutes. It all starts on the defense. If this team plays with the defensive intensity that they're capable of, they will be very hard to beat this year.
Let's go Falcons! Bring it tomorrow night!
AMC: 83
Keens State: 81
AMC wins on a driving layup by J. Green-Younger w/2 seconds left! Great game for J. Green-Younger- 25 pts.
This game was won by AMC on the free throw line- 27 made free throws!!!!!! Too, they rebounded well &
played good defense.
GREAT JOB, MEN! Now, get ready for Williams!!!
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone
What a great game the other night between Albertus and Keene State. I was unable to watch online but based on the box score and some of the highlights (including the game winner) that I saw online, it looked like a heck of a battle between 2 very good teams. Keene has played a strong schedule so far to start the season and while they have yet to see the results in the Win/Loss column this is still a strong team and a good quality road victory for the Falcons.
A HUGE game on Sunday afternoon against Williams College. Williams, like most NESCAC schools are always well coached, they play with discipline and overall are regarded as a top team in the Division 3 ranks, especially in the Northeast region. Coach Oliver and Albertus are so good at home so I am looking forward to another good game between these 2 schools! A win here for Albertus would go a long way late in the season.....
This Albertus team is so deep that Oliver could and has rotated out 5 guys at a time and it almost looks like they don't skip a beat. They are extremely athletic with so many shooters and scorers yet as a team they are very unselfish with the basketball. We have a handful of player who can beat the opponent on any night which is a great thing and one of the reasons why we dont have a particular player or 2 who is just lighting up the stat sheet. This is a very balanced team and we're only going to get better as the year goes on. I believe this is the strongest team we have had since our Sweet 16 appearance from 2014-15. It is all going to come down to our defensive effort. I think everyone in the country knows that we can score the basketball. Our defense this year is equally talented but its just a matter of whether guys want to step up and commit to it or not. So far in the early going, it looks like they have.
With all that being said, the top half of the GNAC is quite strong this year. It will be a difficult task to navigate to a GNAC Championship this season. I truly believe Albertus, St Joes CT, Emmanuel, Colby Sawyer, JWU and Suffolk are all capable of winning the conference and this regular season more than ever is huge for home court advantage during the playoffs. It wont be an easy task for the Falcons to repeat as Champs and continue their dominance over the rest of the GNAC but if theres one thing we know about its that this team and Coach Oliver are always up to the task and have proven time and time again that they can get it done when it matters most.
What a great win today for the Falcons. A complete team effort victory over a good Williams team. Williams struggled mightily from the floor as a team. Mostly due to the pressure that we applied on defense but also because it was just one of those days where the Ephs could not buy a hoop. People better start taking this Falcons team seriously because they can execute their offense with the best of them and when they commit defensively like they did today they can play and beat anyone. Depth, depth depth. We were missing 2 starters today, Damian Grant our 6'6 forward who is a major contributor and Tyreek Perkins who was hurt in the opening minutes of the game and yet we still got the job done without skipping a beat. Losing Andrew Rice to an atrocious second technical call was also a loss and yet this Falcon team pressed on. The second technical foul on Rice in this game was horrible! He had nowhere to step after blocking the heck out of the Ephs players shot and he stepped over the player on the ground instead of stepping on him and the ref called a T. Just a bad call that should have been handled differently by the official.
Great win but its time now to lock in and stay focused on the next task at hand. A 3 game week coming up with a road trip on Wednesday to take on in state foe Mitchell College followed by 2 home games against George Fox on Friday and a quick turnaround for a matchup the following day against #25 ranked WPI.
AMC notes- after the Victory over Williams!
Keith Antonio Davis had a "coming out" party in the win over Williams. Point Guard for AMC is very much "up for grabs"!
I like that he is a large point guard who always plays hard & has a good handle!
Rob Tindley & Qualon Wilkes are also in the competition for the point guard position. They all need to learn to distribute
the ball much better than they do now!
Marquan Watson is going through "growing pains" as a freshman, but make no mistake about it, he is the next big time player
on this team. (needs to let the game come to him & trust his teammates!!)
Rob Simmons, a star @ Classical in Hartford, will shine when Mitch gives him a chance!
Two victories this week over Wentworth and Wheaton push the Saints early record to 7 - 1. I continue to be amazed at they way this team is playing. Each game the Saints have four, five , or six players in double figure scoring. This prevents their opponents from keying their defense on any one player. Saints continue to play unselfish basketball, with good shot selection, steady free throw shooting, and hustling back on defense. Hope this formula can hold up when the Saints match up with some of the high profile teams in the GNAC. Saints don't have a dominate post player, either on offense or defense, so rebounding could be a problem against some of the bigger and more athletic teams. Conference games should be fun to watch.
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AMC notes- after the Victory over Williams!
Keith Antonio Davis had a "coming out" party in the win over Williams. Point Guard for AMC is very much "up for grabs"!
I like that he is a large point guard who always plays hard & has a good handle!
Rob Tindley & Qualon Wilkes are also in the competition for the point guard position. They all need to learn to distribute
the ball much better than they do now!
Marquan Watson is going through "growing pains" as a freshman, but make no mistake about it, he is the next big time player
on this team. (needs to let the game come to him & trust his teammates!!)
Rob Simmons, a star @ Classical in Hartford, will shine when Mitch gives him a chance!
Completely agree with your assessment on Marquan Watson. He is going to be a fantastic player under Oliver. We have seen this many times before with players over the years of his caliber. If he sticks with it and continues to work and be positive, Oliver will turn this kid into a legitimate star who will have a chance to someday make money playing overseas. I think he can be that good. He just needs to understand his role at the moment and try not to force the issue as much. It can be hard for freshman to come in to a program such as Albertus who has a constant flow of high caliber upper classman year after year. You go from being a top player in the state to getting a few minutes a game if any at all and that can sometimes be hard to get over. But this is the college game, its a completely different level and Oliver has made it known to many over the years that regardless of your talent level the best players are going to play. And in the very near future Marquan Watson will be one of those players!
Matchup with Mitchell College tonight. While we have owned this series head to head for many years its still always a game that intrigues me. I think we will have a positive result coming out of tonight game.
Terry Dawkins will have a big double double tonight in a bounce back performance after a tough game the other day for him against Williams.
AMC News: Nice win over George Fox University!
Keys to the game:
AMC outrebounded the Bruins by 20! A lot of second chance points.
Terry Dawkins with a nice game( 19PTs/7 boards)
Davon Warner- quiet guy from Hillhouse who game after game is our MVP!
(8 rebounds from the little guy with a big heart!) Rain on Davon, with your 3`s!!!
Isaiah Lewis- 31 minutes & a solid player who loves to take it to the iron!
Drew Rice- what a difference a year makes! This man is now an offensive threat.
Marquan Watson- 12 Boards- 10 defensive- enough said!
W.P.I. today @ 5pm @ home!
Another huge matchup today! Nationally ranked WPI will be a real tough test for this Falcons squad after a hard fought battle with a very good George Fox team last night exactly 24 hours ago. WPI is a strong and disciplined team who executes there offense and they are feisty enough on defense to turn you over and make you make mistakes.
Let me start off by saying I am making NO excuses for this Falcons team. I am going in with the mindset that we are going to win this game and I know Oliver and the boys are more then confident as well. But it really sucks that we are going to be down 3 starters today. Senior Jahmerikah Green Younger was out last night and will be again today. I heard at the game last night that he sustained a concussion in practice earlier in the week. Senior Damian Grant, our 6'6 starting forward will also be out while he still recovers and while Tyreek Perkins was suited up last night, it doesnt look likely that he will play either as he continues to work his way back from a lower body injury. Albertus hasnt been 100% all season and yet we are still here at 7-1 with another huge opportunity today. It really speaks to the depth and character of this team to lose players of this caliber and be able to sub in and not skip a beat. Davon Warner and Andrew Rice have been fantastic and we will need another strong effort from them today. The guard will need to step up and I expect Senior big man Liam Perryman to play hard and have a big game today in a matchup with fellow big man Garret Stephenson who has been playing lights out of late for the Engineers.
Should be a good one folks! Hope a lot of people come down to pack the NEST!! 5PM as a start time is a little different then what most are accustomed to on a Saturday evening but everyone should make plans to come to the game and grab a slice in New Haven afterwards!
Did I read this box score correctly? The 0 - 8 Lasell Lazers defeated Nichols, the 7 th ranked team in the nation. They didn't just beat them, they put 96 points on the board. I guess Lasell is a team to be heard from in the GNAC games.
AMC over W.P.I. @ THE NEST!
Not really a contest after the Falcons built a substantial lead of as much as 22 pts. in the 2nd half.
When AMC gets "after it" on defense they can beat any team.
Not impressed with W.P.I. "big men"- not a lot of heart shown in this game!
Last game of the first semester is next Saturday @ home vs St. Lawrence.
Great job, Men!
Junkie and Falcons.... great updates throughout the last few years. Saints, how are you liking the new coach?
A good start to the year gor GNAC teams. They are playing a lot more "top level" teams since going to the new one game format.
Can't wait to see this Albertus team grow.
Anyone go to the George Fox/AMC game the other night and get a GF roster?? Really wondering why they'd take a cross country trip to middle Connecticut (they played @ St. Joes the next day) right at the end of the semester?? Anyone know whether they do trimesters at GF instead??
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Anyone go to the George Fox/AMC game the other night and get a GF roster?? Really wondering why they'd take a cross country trip to middle Connecticut (they played @ St. Joes the next day) right at the end of the semester?? Anyone know whether they do trimesters at GF instead??
Finals start tomorrow - they have Monday off. Maybe they treated it like a long weekend? I couldn't find anything on their site that specifically mentioned it - other than it was their longest trip of the year.
I was at the AMC-George Fox game and The Bruins were outclassed, especially on the boards.
They seemed to give up, when they realized they couldn`t "board" with the Falcons.
They were equally awful the next night vs St. Joes- CT.
Saints close out the first semester with a 40 point win over Pine Manor. Again, Saints place four starters in double figures, and ten players on the scoreboard. Saints are moving the ball very well, finding open men, and making good shot selections. This win pushes the Saints first half record to 8 - 2. It use to take the Saints 3 seasons to accumulate 8 wins, now they are doing it one semester. Keep it rolling right into the second semester.
Albertus Magnus First Semester report card:
This is a very good team averaging 94 pts, 45 rebounds & 15 assists per game. They are very deep & play good team defense.
Team strengths: rebounding & sharing the ball (15 assists per game is something an AMC team hasn`t done in a number of years!)
Too, This squad is very good at stealing the ball!
Concern: Mitch hasn`t settled on a point guard! (rightly so) Rob Tindley has shown the most promise, but is not a consistent assist man.
I expect Keith Antonio Davis to grab the position in the second semester. He plays great defense & has promise as an offensive player.
First game of the second semester: York College, an excellent team.
Time will tell on this team; could develop into a great team!
Very good recap given for the AMC first half. It is fun to watch teams play when they move the ball, especially the assists. AMC is averaging 94 pts, 45 rbs, and 15 asts, per game, so they are really playing like a team, in all phases of the game. Saints had a good first half also, slightly behind AMC but still very much improved over the last few years. Saints are averaging 90 pts, 44 rbs, and 18 asts per game. Should be some fun GNAC games coming in the second half. Like watching teams that play the game this was.
Saints pull off a stunning comeback over St Joe, Maine, 96 - 91, at the Regis New Year's tournament. St Joe was in control of the game 89 - 83 with 1:12 left to play, and had possession of the ball. All St Joe had to do was not throw the ball away and the Saints would have been forced to start fouling. The Saints switched screens at just the right time, St Joe threw the ball out of bounds, and the Saints scored the next 13 points in the last minute of play. Good comeback win over a very solid team and great way to start the second semester.
Saints win the Regis New Year's tournament with an 82 - 78 win over the host team. The game was close throughout, but the Saints were able to hold on at the end for a nice win. Saints had eight players contribute to a nice team victory. Sometimes, when teams return from winter break they look sluggish, rusty, and not ready to play. The Saints were none of those things, they looked in good shape, running sets with precision, and making clutch shots. Hope that continues.
AMC: 76
York College-Penn.- 73
A chaotic game(19 turnovers by each team) won by the Falcons with defense & good rebounding.
Solid performances by: Tyreek Perkins (17 pts.) & Terry Dawkins (14 pts & 7 Rebs.)
UGLY GAME but AMC won it!
Next Game tomorrow- Coast Guard(at York) @ 2pm
Big time win for the Falcons today. Agree Falcons25, very sloppy game by both teams which is to be expected coming back from the break. With that being said this was a tremendous team effort victory. York is a solid program and well respected within their region so this was a very strong road victory for the Falcons. A true test and the team responded well to some adversity late in the game. We didn't have our A game today and it was still good enough to get by and record the W.
Tyreek Perkins played fantastic and Keith-Antonio Davis contributed well off the bench. Little disappointed in Jahmerikah's performance today but not worried about him at all. He is so good and even the best of players can have an off day from time to time. I expect him to step up and bounce back tomorrow with a strong effort against Coast Guard who you can never take lightly.
This is a great start to the second half schedule between todays contest with York, tomorrow against Coast Guard and a HUGE trip up to Middlebury on Tuesday to take on the Panthers who are considered by some to be the best team in the country. We'll see what happens! Take it one game at a time!
Go Falcons!
Congrats Albertus Magnus for your #20 ranking in the country! Well deserved.
This team is very deep with several of the quickest(hands & feet)players that AMC has ever had.
This has helped create an excellent defensive team that stays focused the entire game!!!
All of this without a real "star" player. Way to go, TEAM!
Next game: #3 Middlebury on 1/14/20 in Vermont.
Great weekend of victories for the Falcons and to receive the #20 ranking in the country come Monday evening is a nice way to top off a successful start to the 2nd semester! Huge game coming up against Middlebury a week from today. Another road test and without question the toughest matchup of the season for Albertus. I am a little concerned about having so much time off between games but at the same time, after the 2 hard fought victories that the Falcons had this weekend on the road in York PA, I think a little R&R is a good thing for these guys right now. Not to mention an entire week for Coach Oliver to prepare. While these programs have faced each other the last few seasons the beauty of both these head Coaches in Oliver and Brown is that they never seem to settle and are always improving there programs year in and year out which means scouting is that more important in a matchup like this.
Lets keep rolling Falcons!
Nothing special about the Saints 90 - 76 win today over the Rivier Raiders except the names on Rivier roster. Two names specifically caught my eye; Greenaway and Bardanese. Those are the names of two great GNAC players from a few years ago, just wondering if the two Rivier players are related? Maybe brothers or cousins?
Tough one today for the Falcons. Not a very impressive effort on the road in Middlebury this evening. I really dont think either team played their best game tonight. It was not nearly as entertaining of a game as I had thought it would be. No question that Middlebury was the better team tonight but overall, I have no doubts in this Albertus teams ability to compete with pretty much anyone that I have seen thus far in the Northeast region to date. And they have already proven that they can go on the road and beat some pretty darn good teams but tonight it wasnt in the cards for them. It was just one of those nights where Albertus couldn't get their offense into a rhythm and the first game all season where there defensive effort was just not present. There defense and ball pressure has been much improved this year but for whatever reason, it just wasn't there tonight and hats off to Middlebury for making some 3's and shots at big points in the game to maintain the lead that they built on early in the 2nd half.
Albertus showed some glimpses late of going on one of there patented offensive runs where they can rattle off a 10-0 run before you blink and get right back into a game, but it just never materialized to that.
Time to bounce back and get ready for a good Colby Sawyer team on Saturday.
Also, hats off to all the GNAC schools who won there contests tonight against other NESCAC opponents. It truly was GNAC vs NESCAC night and to the surprise of probably a good amount of fans, the GNAC got the best of the NESCAC on this night.
Another HUGE sidenote, Falcons25, we need some info here.....why was Andrew Rice in a sweatsuit tonight?? Hands down our best defender and one of our better rebounders who can really change a game? We are deep with talent but Rice is one of those guys that does so much, you really hate to lose him?
I thought AMC presented themselves well. Definitely not their best game, but it was a tough opponent and I imagine they're not used to being matched in athleticism and outsized quite that way.
I was even more impressed with St. Joseph's win over Williams. The Bluejays looked tremendous - big, disciplined, tenacious. They're my favorite for the conference title after that one. AMC will have their work cut out for them.
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Another HUGE sidenote, Falcons25, we need some info here.....why was Andrew Rice in a sweatsuit tonight?? Hands down our best defender and one of our better rebounders who can really change a game? We are deep with talent but Rice is one of those guys that does so much, you really hate to lose him?
His left hand was in a cast, and I heard that he broke his wrist.
I wrote about them on the NESCAC board, but I, too, was very impressed by St. Joe's. Williams played very poorly against Albertus Magnus, and had a key player go down to injury nine minutes in the game leading to a scramble in the rotation, but I though the Ephs played pretty well against St Joe's for the most part, but just had no answers down the stretch. As you would expect giving the coaching staff, St. Joe's is very organized on both ends of the floor and makes smart in-game adjustments.
Their backcourt is as talented as any you will see in D3, Delshawn Jackson is a legit stud scorer who carries himself kind of like Echevarria did last year, and Jaecee Martin is lightning fast (I seriously doubt there is a faster guard in D3) and also extremely confident, a real alpha lead guard, that duo will give any opposing backcourt big-time trouble. They are clearly a different team since he joined the roster. Taelon Martin is a crazy talented athlete (he had two eye-popping plays, a dunk and a trailing block, last night) and seems like an X-factor guy who could explode for some really big games as he gains experience. And they have a bunch of other big, athletic wings who can really defend and also score it a bit, Jordan Powell foremost among them, but also Samuels, Brown and O'Neil can all play. They have a pretty big hole in the middle, an elite center will give them trouble (and did last night), but that is true of a lot of teams in New England. Honestly, I thought they were the scariest team Williams has played this year, better than teams who have been ranked like Amherst, Springfield, and Hamilton.
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I wrote about them on the NESCAC board, but I, too, was very impressed by St. Joe's. Williams played very poorly against Albertus Magnus, and had a key player go down to injury nine minutes in the game leading to a scramble in the rotation, but I though the Ephs played pretty well against St Joe's for the most part, but just had no answers down the stretch. As you would expect giving the coaching staff, St. Joe's is very organized on both ends of the floor and makes smart in-game adjustments.
Their backcourt is as talented as any you will see in D3, Delshawn Jackson is a legit stud scorer who carries himself kind of like Echevarria did last year, and Jaecee Martin is lightning fast (I seriously doubt there is a faster guard in D3) and also extremely confident, a real alpha lead guard, that duo will give any opposing backcourt big-time trouble. They are clearly a different team since he joined the roster. Taelon Martin is a crazy talented athlete (he had two eye-popping plays, a dunk and a trailing block, last night) and seems like an X-factor guy who could explode for some really big games as he gains experience. And they have a bunch of other big, athletic wings who can really defend and also score it a bit, Jordan Powell foremost among them, but also Samuels, Brown and O'Neil can all play. They have a pretty big hole in the middle, an elite center will give them trouble (and did last night), but that is true of a lot of teams in New England. Honestly, I thought they were the scariest team Williams has played this year, better than teams who have been ranked like Amherst, Springfield, and Hamilton.
Of course, you haven't seen Yeshiva yet.
D3Hoopjunkie- I can not confirm that Drew Rice broke his hand. (if so, we will be hurt, when we play the better teams)
Middlebury was the better team last night, but not a "powerhouse" at all.
As for Coach Calhoun & the Blue Jays, we`ll see them soon enough at THE NEST. AMC is going to have to be knocked off
their perch, probably at home in the conference playoffs.
I like this AMC team to get better & better as the year progresses. WHY?
Damien Grant has just awoken from his slumber & will provide low post scoring.
Marquan Watson, our freshman #4 w/great promise, is ready to come into his own- just needs minutes, Mitch!
Justice Washington, our freshman center, is also at the cusp of high achievement- he too needs the minutes, Mitch!
The real season(conference) is just starting!
SEE YOU SATURDAY AT THE NEST vs Colby-Sawyer- 3pm.
AMC: 74
Colby-Sawyer: 71
Thank God for Q.Wilkes & R. Tindley who scored 13 & 14 pts respectively.
This was an "in the mud" type game, which somehow the Falcons came out
on top!
Drew Rice does have a broken hand; look for him just before playoff time!
AMC better not take their next game for granted, they play a very good Regis squad Tuesday!
St. Paul- Emmanuel has a HUGE game Tuesday night vs Johnson & Wales. What happened vs Lasell?
We all look forward to your coverage of the Saints!
All AMC is rooting for you on Tuesday as we take on a strong Regis squad.
All the best!
Hate to say this but clearly, the Saints took the 3 - 11 Lasell team lightly. Saints only made 5 of 25 three point shots and only 11 of 19 free throws, both uncharacteristic statistics. The real telling statistic was only 11 assists for the Saints, they were just not moving the ball. They let Lasell hang around and lost on a last second jump shot at the buzzer. Hopefully it will be the only time that happens this year. Interesting game coming up on Tuesday. J&W likes to press and push the ball in transition, while the Saints like to walk the ball up the floor, spread the floor and play a very deliberate offense. Who will control game tempo? Saints will have to shoot better from the perimeter and reduce the number of J&W run outs. Moving the ball and will be the key. GNAC games are starting to get good.
Cannot believe the Saints won this game at JWU, 86 - 84, OT. JWU was playing well and in control of this game for 39 minutes and 45 seconds. With 15 seconds left in the game, Saints guard drove the lane and hit a short, 10 foot jumper to tie the score at 74. After a time out, JWU set a few screens and took an open jumper from the foul line that missed. Saints grabbed the rebound and threw a long outlet pass to a streaking guard who got fouled shooting a lay up with under 1 second to play. Saints guard stepped to the foul line for two shots with 0.9 sec on the clock and the game tied at 74. Saints guard missed both free throws to send the game into overtime. The overtime period was back and forth with both teams exchanging baskets. Saints were up 85 - 84 with 17 seconds left, and the Saints guard on the foul line for two shots. Saints guard made one free throw, and missed the second free throw. JWU did not call time out but pushed the ball in transition and missed the layup. Saints big man took the rebound and the Saints started to run off the court in apparent victory. However, out of nowhere, a referee came running across the court with his arm and fist raised, calling a rebounding foul on a Saints guard. A JWU player went to the foul line for two shots with 0.7 sec on the clock. Now it was the JWU players turn to miss two free throws. Instead of tying the game, he missed both shots and the Saints were fouled again on the rebound with 0.3 sec on the clock. Saint player went to the foul line holding an 86 - 84 lead and again missed both free throws. Fortunately, as the JWU player took the last rebound no more fouls were called and the Saints were finally able to run off the court with a well earned road victory.
What a great result, Saint! I was going back & forth between Emmanuel/ J & W & Regis/AMC!
I almost had a stroke, when the Emanuel player missed both free throws @ the end of Regulation!
Meantime, AMC played a terrible game, but they would not quit & they got 61 rebounds! They "willed"
their way into overtime & then J. Green-Younger took over with several clutch baskets.
We need Tyreek Perkins to "show up" for EVERY GAME! Too, Davon Warner needs to start shooting better.
All of this said....THIS TEAM IS A WINNER!
Next up: St. Joe`s- Maine Saturday @ 3pm @ THE NEST!
AMC: 99
St. Joe`s-Maine: 93
What a great game! Jack Casale, the Monk`s star player, dropped 48 pts. on the Falcons.
But he was countered by Tyreek Perkins- 32 pts., 6 assists & 8 rebounds & J. Green-Younger
- 24 pts.
I take both of these men for granted, but we are really going to miss them when they are gone!
If we win the GNAC championship, it will be because of the GREAT LEADERSHIP of these fine men!
NEXT UP: ST. JOE`S- W.Hartford - This Wednesday-7PM @ THE NEST! (THIS WILL BE THE GAME OF
THE YEAR!!!!)
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Time (ET) | Guest | School/Institution |
12:20 p.m. | Jim Calhoun | St. Joseph's (Conn.) men's coach |
12:40 p.m. | Pat Juckem | No. 11 WashU men's coach |
1:00 p.m. | Brian Morehouse | No. 3 Hope women's coach |
1:20 p.m. | Lauren Busalacchi | Ripon women's coach |
1:40 p.m. | Ryan Hyland | John Jay men's coach |
2:00 p.m. | Dan Dutcher | NCAA VP for Division III |
2:40 p.m. | Karin Harvey | Montclair State women's coach, Women's National Committee chair |
3:00 p.m. | Adrienne Shibles | No. 2 Bowdoin women's coach |
3:20 p.m. | Kate Pearson | Cabrini women's coach |
3:40 p.m. | Matt Gilbride | RPI men's coach |
4:00 p.m. | Sam Atkinson | Gallaudet Associate AD for Comm., Men's National Committee Chair |
4:20 p.m. | Matt Donohue | Catholic women's coach |
4:40 p.m. | Charles Katsiaficas | Pomona-Pitzer men's coach |
5:00 p.m. | Jon Herbrechtsmeyer | No. 5 Bethel women's coach |
5:20 p.m. | Chris Carideo | Widener men's coach |
5:40 p.m. | Dave Hixon | Amherst men's coach (sabbatical) |
6:00 p.m. | Tricia Cullop | WBCA Board President, Toledo women's coach |
6:20 p.m. | Alex Richey | No. 18 Oglethorpe women's coach |
6:40 p.m. | Jody May | Albion men's coach |
7:00 p.m. | Dave Macedo | No. 18 Virginia Wesleyan men's coach |
7:20 p.m. | Melissa Kuberka | St. John Fisher women's coach |
8:00 p.m. | HOOPSVILLE HAPPY HOUR | A gaggle of some of the shows friends - to be announced |
Saints did win the game with the Amcats 95 - 82, but I was not happy about the style of play. Saints are usually a very deliberate, patient, team moving the ball to find the best shot. Tonight, the Saints matched the Amcats style, running up and down the court on every possession, taking the first shot available. The tough, half court defense and patient, moving and cutting offense was not on display tonight. Saints pushed the ball as much as the Amcats did, the big difference was that the Saints shot the ball better. Saints showed very little defense tonight, and took advantage of the Amcats poor shot selection. Any win is a good win, but let's hope this style of game is a once in a while occurance and doesn't become the norm.
Well, AMC got "smoked" by St.Joe`s- W.Hartford in THE NEST!
Delshawn Jackson had a great game w/36 pts. & Jordan Powell added 22 pts.
The guy who "stirs the drink" on the Blue Jays is NOT either of the aforementioned players.
Rather, their point guard Jaecee Martin, is THE MAN. Defending this guy is almost impossible.
The Falcons will see St.Joe`s again THIS YEAR IN THE PLAYOFFS & will wipe the smirks off
their faces.
NEXT UP: Suffolk University @ 7pm Saturday @ Tufts(Medford, Ma.)
P.S.- In the bad news dept.- Marguan Watson is OFF THE ROSTER?
St. Joe's has the attention of all of New England and probably increasingly D3 overall.
Albertus Magnus is a very good team. To see them get thrashed like that emphasizes just how good Calhoun's team is. Scary.
Quote from: middhoops on January 30, 2020, 07:29:54 PM
St. Joe's has the attention of all of New England and probably increasingly D3 overall.
Albertus Magnus is a very good team. To see them get thrashed like that emphasizes just how good Calhoun's team is. Scary.
They were better than Williams, very clearly, when they played. It's a tough team, with lots of size, speed, and skill. Going to be a tough out in the NCAAs, assuming they make it through.
Yup. I was very impressed by St Joe's against Williams. I thought the Ephs had one of their better efforts that night, and St Joe's just kept making big plays. They are a strange team, no real post, very little outside shooting, but they are hyper athletic, get to the rim relentlessly and they can finish in the paint. Of course, very well-coached, too. And yes, Martin is flat-out nasty. While not a shooter, I think he's the quickest player with the ball I've seen in D3, although it's close between him and Eian Davis. He's also a one-man press. No coincidence they have not lost since he started playing. To me, St Joe's and Colby (both have issues defending the post but are so tough in other ways that they compensate) are very even and the class of New England, followed very closely by Midd. A bunch of other teams are solid but I like that trio to go far if they are healthy.
Saints hold on for a good road win, 95 - 79 , over a very athletic Regis team. This game was close for the first 36 minutes, then some timely shooting by the Saints put this game in the win column. Regis was a very tough opponent, full court pressing for the whole game, and attacking the offensive boards at opportune times. Glad to see that when the Saints broke the Regis press they did not run wild and take bad shots. The Saints did a good job of making the correct decisions in transition.
Saints used their X-FILES connection to defeat a strong Colby-Sawyer team 89 - 70 tonight in an important GNAC game. Fox (19) Moulder (24) combined for 43 of the Saints 89 points to break open a close game and push their league record to 5 - 1. Saints were patient, moving the ball, finding open men, and knocking down 11 threes, while holding the Chargers to just 18% from the 3 point line. Colby-Sawyer is usually a much better shooting team then they showed tonight so there must have been some mysterious forces at work in the air tonight in the Saints gym. The answer is in the playoffs.
AMC with a "character" win vs J & W. Men, your work has just begun! You need to win the next 5 games
to finish in second place in the GNAC. (This would include wins over Lasell & Emmanuel @ Home)
One team has a legimate shot @ beating St.Joe`s for First place, EMMANUEL! GO SAINTS!
These two great squads will face off shortly!
GNAC Tourney should be a lot of fun!
An impressive last couple games for the Falcons as they pick up wins against rival JWU and Rivier. Both games were well executed at both ends defensively and offensively. This team is really clicking right now and they're in a good spot to hopefully win out and go into the GNAC tournament with home court advantage for the quarters and semi finals.
This team has dealt with a lot of adversity this season between losing key players to injuries for stretches of time and losing a impact freshman in Marquan Watson. I heard that Marquan had some personal issues that required him to have to withdraw from the school. Its unfortunate as his future was extremely bright and was without question a player that Oliver could have potentially turned into an outstanding player had he been able to continue but things at times are more important than basketball and I wish Marquan luck in the future. Never had any personal interactions with him but he carried himself well on the court and seemed like a respectable young man.
The St Joes loss was a tough and the the overall effort in the loss to Suffolk the next game was not something we as fans are used to seeing out of our Albertus teams. But again, it looks like they have refocused and have their eyes set on another playoff run and GNAC championship. Lasell on Wednesday followed by Norwich, Emmanuel and Anna Maria. The big one is going to be against Emmanuel who continues to impress under second year HC Danny Lawson.
The GNAC race is turning into quite a finish and with only a few games remaining it will be interesting to see how things finish up. The top 3 teams are clearly St Joes CT, Albertus and Emmanuel with everyone else battling for position for the remaining spots.
One game at a time. Lasell is next at home! Lets keep it rolling Falcons!
Junkie, do not look beyond Lasell Wednesday. They are very good & ahead of AMC now. This is not the typical Lasell team that we have faced
in the last several years!
That said, AMC will win 4 straight game if they:
1. Come to play defense for 60 minutes!
2. Rebound like they are capable of doing.
3. Mitch, run plays every time on offense & we`ll be all right!
This team can`t afford to overlook anyone if we are to finish as the #2 seed.(short of a total St. Joe`s collapse)
The men's first regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-first
It was bombs away for the Monks tonight in a 90 - 81 win over the Saints. The Monks attempted 40 three point shots and connected on 18 of them to shoot down the Saints in an important GNAC contest. The Saints defense was just not good enough tonight. They did not run the Monks off the 3 pt line, but allowed them to set their feet and get plenty of wide open looks. Saints effort level in contesting shots was also sub par tonight. I was a little disappointed in the Saints game plan. This was not the first time the Saints played the Monks this year. The Saints know that the Monks don't have a strong post game and have to live and die by their perimeter shooters, and yet the Saints were not out behind the arc contesting the Monks shooters. I hope this loss does not cost the Saints a home playoff game.
Something I've noticed the few times I've watched St. Joe's is that Calhoun seems to just disappear in the 2nd half. Sometimes he comes back to the bench but I didn't even see him return during the Regis game. Anyone know why?
Quote from: stlawus on February 14, 2020, 12:01:03 PM
Something I've noticed the few times I've watched St. Joe's is that Calhoun seems to just disappear in the 2nd half. Sometimes he comes back to the bench but I didn't even see him return during the Regis game. Anyone know why?
Quote from: deiscanton on February 23, 2019, 11:19:17 AM
Quote from: Jameswys on February 21, 2019, 08:15:01 PM
Coach Calhoun hasn't been on the bench in the second half, does anyone know why?
I will let Coach Calhoun comment for himself on his personal health issues. USJ is fortunate to have Glen Miller as an Associate Head Coach. The commentator on the Monks streaming feed did not make a huge deal out of the situation.
My reply from last season is just as valid today.
Quote from: deiscanton on February 14, 2020, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: stlawus on February 14, 2020, 12:01:03 PM
Something I've noticed the few times I've watched St. Joe's is that Calhoun seems to just disappear in the 2nd half. Sometimes he comes back to the bench but I didn't even see him return during the Regis game. Anyone know why?
Quote from: deiscanton on February 23, 2019, 11:19:17 AM
Quote from: Jameswys on February 21, 2019, 08:15:01 PM
Coach Calhoun hasn't been on the bench in the second half, does anyone know why?
I will let Coach Calhoun comment for himself on his personal health issues. USJ is fortunate to have Glen Miller as an Associate Head Coach. The commentator on the Monks streaming feed did not make a huge deal out of the situation.
My reply from last season is just as valid today.
If anyone watched the ESPN docu-series with Calhoun, they would see this.
Congrats to the St Joe's (CT) Blue Jays on clinching the #1 seed in the upcoming GNAC Tournament.
Well, here we are, Saint! A battle for 2nd place will take place this Tuesday night @ THE NEST!
Emmanuel is one game behind our Falcons, but if the Saints win they get 2nd place according to how I
understand tiebreakers! Two very well matched teams; should be a great game!
Now for the upstart St.Joe`s team from upstate CT.! The playoffs are a different animal entirely & it`s
one & done if you lose! I`ll take my chances with that reality. We`ve been there.
WE played well in short spurts, but could not sustain the intensity needed over 40 minutes to knock off a ranked team. The offensive explosion just appeared overwhelming. Saints were up 31 - 22 with 7 minutes to play in the first half and then within a few minutes they were down 46 - 43 at the half. Second half was the same way, five or six minutes of solid play, but not good enough. Should be a good game on Tuesday.
AMC prevails in the battle for 2nd seed in the GNAC tournament. Outstanding game that was close throughout with The falcons
pulling away at the end by 15 pts.
Keys to the game:
1. excellent AMC defense held the Saints to probably a season low in shooting % from the field & 3-pt land too.
2. 35 defensive rebounds by AMC!
3. 21 assists for the Falcons- great ball movement!
4. AMC scored on more drives to the rim than I can remember!
Emmitt Riddick went off for 39 pts- what a smooth customer! J. Green-Younger had 34 pts. for AMC.
Justice Washington did yeoman`s work on the boards w/13 tonight.
Emmanuel, Lasell & Anna Maria are all tied for #3 slot!!
Week 2's Regional Rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-second
I was surprised that the Saints continued in a man to man defense after getting blown out three minutes into the game. Down 21 - 6, I was expecting a change in defense, and maybe better close outs on the perimeter shooters, who were on fire. Playing from behind against a very good team is a difficult position to be in. Saints spent a lot of energy to get back into the game but had nothing left for the important last two minutes. It did not look like the Saints were ready for the intensity that Albertus showed at the start of the game. Looks like a two team race for the GNAC championship.
And most of us are going to have to watch the GNAC title game on-line through a video stream, because the O'Connell Center in West Hartford is much smaller than the Nest in New Haven. Glad to see that USJ is building a new 1400 seat gym.
Quote from: deiscanton on February 19, 2020, 07:14:17 PM
And most of us are going to have to watch the GNAC title game on-line through a video stream, because the O'Connell Center in West Hartford is much smaller than the Nest in New Haven. Glad to see that USJ is building a new 1400 seat gym.
Regarding this statement, if both St Joes and Albertus are fortunate enough to make the GNAC Final, do you think the school would consider moving it to a larger venue? I know they have already done this in the past for a few big games and I would think this has to be considered for a potential match up of this magnitude? They have used Trinty's gym a few times in the past for Calhouns first game last season and another time I believe as well? Would the GNAC have something to say about this as well? I know playing in your home gym on your home court is a huge factor but so is playing in front of a huge crowd of people as well. I sincerely doubt this would upset Calhoun considering the stages he has coached at. The gym at St Joes is just too small! Albertus looks like the XL Center compared to it and it was very difficult to get a seat at last years championship!
Hopefully both schools and the GNAC can come together on some agreement here for the sake of the fans! Selfish I know but Calhoun/Oliver BlueJay/Falcons is must see action!
Back in the middle of January the Lasell Lazers beat the Saints on a last second buzzer beater. At that time I felt the Saints were not prepared well enough for that game. Tomorrow the Saints get a rematch with Lasell. I am sure that the Saints will be better prepared for this game. It should be a close game but I think the Saints will not be surprised by Lasell. I expect a better defensive effort from the Saints and I expect them to move on in the playoffs.
Huge opening round game for the Falcons tomorrow night against Suffolk. The Falcons were embarrassed a couple weeks ago against Suffolk in Medford Mass. Out hustled and out worked for the entire game and was really one of the more surprising outcomes of the season. However, losing happens to everyone, its the manner in which you lose that can be alarming and on that night it certainly was the case. But, the Falcons have bounced back extremely strong since that loss and appear to be playing at a very high level right now heading into the GNAC tourney. Suffolk no doubt has some strong players and are a very talented team with a lot of senior leadership but they are no match for the Falcons when their clicking on both offense and defense. Not to mention beating Oliver twice in one season, that just doesn't happen very often in this conference.
This will be a tight game but I see the Falcons pulling away late in the second half. 86 to 73 final.
As for the other match-ups, I believe Emmanuel will take down Lasell, St Joes Maine will best Anna Maria and St Joes CT will advance past Regis.
Albertus vs Emmanuel
St Joes CT vs St Joes Maine is how I see the GNAC semi-finals shaping up for Thursday!
The Week 3 men's regional rankings are out: https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/02/men-regional-rankings-third
Stunning upset, as the Saints watch Lasell knock down 12 first half 3 point shots to jump on the Saints by 22 points in the first half. Saints were playing catch up all night long and could only watch as Lasell coasted to a 98 - 77 first round victory. Giving up wide open 3 pointers as been a major problem all year long for the Saints and it finally caught up with them at a most in opportune time.
The defensive effort to move on in the playoffs was no where to be seen tonight. A bitter end to a once very promising season. Well, as the Cubs fans say, " there is always next year . "
Saint, what a shame! I watched the first half of the Saints/Lasers game & it reminded me of a game that AMC lost to
the ST. Joe`s Monks, when the sky seamed to rain 3`s!
It doesn`t take away from a great season for the Saints!
AMC almost suffered a similar fate tonight vs Suffolk University! They "willed" themselves to victory!
Tyreek Perkins, Jahmerikah Green-Younger, Qualon Wilkes, Rob Tindley & Andrew Rice- are all mentally tough players!!!!
LaSell is our next opponent & I hope they know how to drive to the hoop.(we will shut down their 3-point guys & force them
to the rim!)
GO FALCONS!
What a battle last night in New Haven! How Suffolk fell to a 7 seed is beyond me! They are a far better team then the draw they received but those are the brakes! Albertus did not play their best game but when it became to make plays they did exactly that. Andrew Rice is back!!!! What a difference maker at both ends of the court. His presence and defensive abilities are something to marvel at. In my opinion, he is the best defender Albertus has ever had. With the exception of 2 misses down the stretch at the line from Qualon Wilkes the FT shooting in clutch time was superb and the defensive effort was just enough to get by.
Jahmerikah Green Younger is a beast!! He does not want his season and college career to end and he is capable of single handily taking over a basketball game and that is what he's been doing for the last few weeks now. Tyreek Perkins. Mr Consistency as I like to call him. Plays as hard as anyone and takes so much contact when going to the hoop. He has really matured over the last few games and has done a great job of keeping his emotions in check. He is a strong, firey player which is why he might be my favorite player on this team but in the past his emotions have sometime gotten the best of him. It looks like he has taken a turn and really worked on being a leader. He really did a good job of gathering his teammates last night in times where it looked like some were going to lose it a bit!
Really surprised by the other matchups. Emmanuel performance against Lasell was disappointing. I was fully expecting a matchup with Emmanual in the semi finals. St Joes of Maine??? What happened? Anna Maria is a decent team but I really thought Maine would perform much better then that! Box Score for Maine, how does Jack Casale, easily a 1st team all conference player only take 4 field goal attempts on the night? That is unacceptable in a game of that magnitude. In 37 minute played too! That was the biggest shocker of the night IMO. He is far to good a player!
St Joes CT did there thing as expected........Not much to say on that one
Hi all,
I host a Connecticut sports podcast, The Connecticut Scoreboard Podcast, and was fortunate enough to get some time with Coach Jim Calhoun for a podcast. We spend the first half talking about his time at St. Joe's including this year's team and the run the team is on, the differences b/w coaching at D1 vs D3 and then talk about some of UConn memories.
Thought some on here might enjoy: https://soundcloud.com/user-855271056/jim-calhoun-uconn-and-st-joes
A deadly accident on I84 has affected the GNAC tournament.
Both women's semifinals (I think) are now to be played on Friday.
At least one of the men's games (Anna Maria at St. Joseph) has been postponed to Friday.
Last I saw, Lasell at Albertus Magnus was delayed, but still to be played at 9PM Thursday night.
Also, the championship game has been moved to SUNDAY afternoon in men's basketball.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2020, 08:24:11 PM
A deadly accident on I84 has affected the GNAC tournament.
Both women's semifinals (I think) are now to be played on Friday.
At least one of the men's games (Anna Maria at St. Joseph) has been postponed to Friday.
Last I saw, Lasell at Albertus Magnus was delayed, but still to be played at 9PM Thursday night.
Also, the championship game has been moved to SUNDAY afternoon in men's basketball.
also this accident postponed the UMB-ECSU women's Little East semifinal to tomorrow night.
Quote from: Caz Bombers on February 27, 2020, 10:00:15 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2020, 08:24:11 PM
A deadly accident on I84 has affected the GNAC tournament.
Both women's semifinals (I think) are now to be played on Friday.
At least one of the men's games (Anna Maria at St. Joseph) has been postponed to Friday.
Last I saw, Lasell at Albertus Magnus was delayed, but still to be played at 9PM Thursday night.
Also, the championship game has been moved to SUNDAY afternoon in men's basketball.
also this accident postponed the UMB-ECSU women's Little East semifinal to tomorrow night.
Yep ... but considering this is the GNAC board ... I didn't include it.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2020, 10:57:16 PM
Quote from: Caz Bombers on February 27, 2020, 10:00:15 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 27, 2020, 08:24:11 PM
A deadly accident on I84 has affected the GNAC tournament.
Both women's semifinals (I think) are now to be played on Friday.
At least one of the men's games (Anna Maria at St. Joseph) has been postponed to Friday.
Last I saw, Lasell at Albertus Magnus was delayed, but still to be played at 9PM Thursday night.
Also, the championship game has been moved to SUNDAY afternoon in men's basketball.
also this accident postponed the UMB-ECSU women's Little East semifinal to tomorrow night.
Yep ... but considering this is the GNAC board ... I didn't include it.
No Connecticut teams were involved in the GNAC Women's semifinals, which were played last night. On the women's side, Emmanuel and St. Joe's of Maine advanced to Saturday's title game.
What a game for the Ages last night in New Haven! AMC prevailed over Lasell, 95-94.
Between E.J. Day & the officials, I thought The Falcons were doomed. BUT, this team
never quits!!!
Andrew Rice & Terry Dawkins scored all the points down the stretch on turnovers.
Keith Antonio Davis, "Q" Wilkes & Davon Warner did the hard work of inducing the
said turnovers! A Huge assist to "THE NEST" crowd that was as loud & crazy as I have ever heard
them! (I`ve seen pretty much all AMC games in person for 11 years!)
Championship game is : Sunday afternoon!
Incredible comeback by the Falcons. When you guys were down 6 points with a minute to play I really thought the game was over. All Lasell had to do was get the ball over half court and shoot free throws to end the game. Not sure why Laseell was unable to get the ball into their front court. That last free throw with 0.1 seconds left was nail biting. Good Luck on Sunday.
Anna Maria leading St Joe's CT 36-24 7:30 left in 1st half. BlueJays have to solve zone defense of Amcats.
Halftime--
St. Joe's CT up 47-46 at halftime over Anna Maria.
If BlueJays win, the championship game will be at the O'Connell Center in West Hartford on Sunday at 1 PM.
It should be an exciting 2nd half.
Where does Calhoun go during the 2nd half?
Quote from: stlawus on February 28, 2020, 08:25:15 PM
Where does Calhoun go during the 2nd half?
Associate Head Coach Glen Miller coaches the second half of games while Calhoun recuperates in the locker room.
Did you watch the ESPN documentary the Calhoun Project, which is still available on the ESPN+ streaming service? The reasons why he is not on the bench in the second half of games are well explained in that documentary. Hint: Personal health reasons. Watch the documentary-- it is a good one which chronicles St. Joe's first season with a men's basketball team.
St. Joe's wins, 94-79. Tickets go on sale on-line on the USJ Blue Jays website at noon tomorrow. Most fans are going to be stuck watching the game on video stream on GNAC TV. Very small gym.
I figured it was something along those lines but I had no idea. Thanks for the info, I'll check that doc out.
The semi-final on Thursday night was just incredible. It was without question one of the best comebacks I have ever seen take place in The Nest. Albertus looked all but done with just over a minute to play and down 6 points. Our two best players, Jahmerikah Green Younger and Tyreek Perkins on the bench with Kai fouling out and Tyreek not in the game. And yet a group of Sophomores and junior Keith Antonio Davis stepped up and brought us back from the depths to another GNAC Championship appearance! Andrew Rice and Davon Warner came up HUGEEE in this one folks. Lasell lost their composure and couldn't inbound the basketball. We forced 4 straight TO's if you include the 10 second violation forced to start this entire run off! Andrew Rice single handily changed the game with his pressure defense and amazingly quick hands. Words dont do just for what was witnessed the other night! I am missing a lot of information because there is just so much to put in!
Now we get the matchup that the GNAC and most of New England wants to see. The rematch between the two best teams in this conference and both ranking quite highly in all of New England! St Joes vs Albertus, Calhoun vs Oliver, Matchup vs Matchups! This is going to be a great championship game and many bubble teams and the NCAA selection committee will be watching this one closely!
Tickets sold out for tomorrows GNAC Championship in less than a minute through the USJ-Eventbrite system. Really unfortunate that this game couldn't be moved to a larger venue but I understand the advantage of home court. Just really sad that a lot of faithful fans for both side probably wont be able to attend! Myself included! Such is life! Thankfully, St Joes normally puts on a pretty good broadcast with play by play commentary and analysis throughout.
Halftime in West Hartford
St. Joe's 44, Albertus Magnus 25
Dr. Rhona Free, the president of St. Joe's, now being interviewed at halftime.
Final
St. Joe's CT 88, Albertus Magnus 84
Coach Jim Calhoun and the BlueJays are in the DIII tournament!
Is St. Joe's big enough to host a pod, if it even matters?
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 01, 2020, 05:28:41 PM
Is St. Joe's big enough to host a pod, if it even matters?
They will not host, regardless of capacity.
Congrats to ST. Joe`s for the GNAC championship. Good Luck in the NCAA tournament.
As for my Falcons, Thank you for a GREAT SEASON. YOU NEVER QUIT!
Set your goals for later this year- another GNAC TITLE. (you just missed by 4 points)
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 01, 2020, 05:37:17 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 01, 2020, 05:28:41 PM
Is St. Joe's big enough to host a pod, if it even matters?
They will not host, regardless of capacity.
Existing gym at St. Joe's seats 342-- too small to host. New expanded gym will get more seats, but the Bluejays are not in the top 2 in the regional rankings, so they travel next weekend.
St. Joe`s is playing @ Springfield College? What a Joke! Tell me, the "powers to be" didn`t kiss Calhoun`s large ARSE!
I don`t ever want to hear that favorites aren`t played by the selection committee.
Falcons25, respectfully my friend, while I agree with your assessment here in the sense that it is a joke they received such a close draw. I don't exactly think Coach Calhoun has a lot of friends within the NCAA based on his past history and involvement with them. He's had a number of run in and conflicts over the years within the NCAA and he's been punished for those actions.
That being said, Albertus has 7 GNAC Championships over the last 10 years. 7!!!
Last three trips.....
2014-15 - Dickinson - 272 Miles
2016-17 - Rochester - 371 Miles
2018-19 - Christopher Newport - 478 Miles!
First trip ever for St. Josephs - Springfield - 30 Miles
Which schools are joining the GNAC next season and who is departing? Thanks!
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on March 03, 2020, 10:18:45 AM
Which schools are joining the GNAC next season and who is departing? Thanks!
Suffolk is leaving for the Commonwealth Coast Conference at the end of the spring athletics season.
Dean joins GNAC in September-- First year as a full d3 member. Dean is presently in the NECC.
Quote from: deiscanton on March 03, 2020, 10:48:58 AM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on March 03, 2020, 10:18:45 AM
Which schools are joining the GNAC next season and who is departing? Thanks!
Suffolk is leaving for the Commonwealth Coast Conference at the end of the spring athletics season.
Dean joins GNAC in September-- First year as a full d3 member. Dean is presently in the NECC.
Thanks for the info!! I'm obviously a bit confused by all of this conference roulette :) There are three or four Upstate New York teams who are leaving the NEAC at the end of the Spring and I could have sworn that I heard they were joining the GNAC. I'm now wondering where they are going if not the GNAC. I believe the schools are SUNY Poly, SUNY Cobleskill, Cazenovia and Wells. Let me know if you've heard anything about this.
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on March 03, 2020, 11:26:09 AM
Quote from: deiscanton on March 03, 2020, 10:48:58 AM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on March 03, 2020, 10:18:45 AM
Which schools are joining the GNAC next season and who is departing? Thanks!
Suffolk is leaving for the Commonwealth Coast Conference at the end of the spring athletics season.
Dean joins GNAC in September-- First year as a full d3 member. Dean is presently in the NECC.
Thanks for the info!! I'm obviously a bit confused by all of this conference roulette :) There are three or four Upstate New York teams who are leaving the NEAC at the end of the Spring and I could have sworn that I heard they were joining the GNAC. I'm now wondering where they are going if not the GNAC. I believe the schools are SUNY Poly, SUNY Cobleskill, Cazenovia and Wells. Let me know if you've heard anything about this.
I believe those NEAC schools are joining the NAC. Our assumption (unconfirmed) is that the NAC is hoping to do East and West divisions to minimize travel from Upstate NY to Northern Maine and vice versa.
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Which schools are joining the GNAC next season and who is departing? Thanks!
Suffolk is leaving for the Commonwealth Coast Conference at the end of the spring athletics season.
Dean joins GNAC in September-- First year as a full d3 member. Dean is presently in the NECC.
Thanks for the info!! I'm obviously a bit confused by all of this conference roulette :) There are three or four Upstate New York teams who are leaving the NEAC at the end of the Spring and I could have sworn that I heard they were joining the GNAC. I'm now wondering where they are going if not the GNAC. I believe the schools are SUNY Poly, SUNY Cobleskill, Cazenovia and Wells. Let me know if you've heard anything about this.
I believe those NEAC schools are joining the NAC. Our assumption (unconfirmed) is that the NAC is hoping to do East and West divisions to minimize travel from Upstate NY to Northern Maine and vice versa.
Thanks Ryan...............that makes more sense. Great job with Dave, Bob and the Mike's on Sunday night's Hoopsville!!!
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Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 01, 2020, 05:28:41 PM
Is St. Joe's big enough to host a pod, if it even matters?
They will not host, regardless of capacity.
Existing gym at St. Joe's seats 342-- too small to host. New expanded gym will get more seats, but the Bluejays are not in the top 2 in the regional rankings, so they travel next weekend.
Not entirely true ... yes, it is small and the NCAA may say no to them if it ever came to that, but they don't have minimums in the handbook for the opening weekend. Also, they can always go to another gym. That has happened often.
ALBERTUS MAGNUS COLLEGE: NEW RECRUIT: Ta-Zhon Daniels- point guard(5-9) out of HILLHOUSE-NEW HAVEN
1st Team All State- 15 pts./ 6 assists/3 steals/5 rebs. per game! Congrats, young man!
See you in the fall, God willing!
AMC Hoops- recruiting news- The Falcons have added an athletic forward in Rahsen Fisher- Trinity Catholic- Stamford, CT.
6`,5" forward runs the floor really well & is a strong rebounder. Typical Flying Falcon who finishes strong at the rim!
More when I receive it!
Amazing story about Coach Oliver's family and what his parents have gone through over the past couple months. Mitch's father, Ernie, who is at every single game, home or away, almost lost his life to the COVID Virus and John Pierson from News 8 did a really touching story on his battle. Hats off to Mr. Oliver and the entire family.
https://twitter.com/JPPierson/status/1265053909611151360?s=20
Some really strong late recruiting additions for St. Joseph's, according to NERR:
Chris Camille, a forward who was ranked second in Maine and 76 in New England, and Keigo Kimura, ranked 54 in CT and 135 in New England
Kimura is billed as a shooting specialist, which was St. Joseph's biggest weakness last year.
https://newenglandrecruitingreport.com/in-the-news/unsigned-senior-spotlight-keigo-kumara
They have loads of players who can attack and create, and if he can come in right away and just stand around and make open 3's, he could make a big impact for them. And Camille is (along with WPI's John Adams at 74) the highest-ranked (by far) D3 recruit in New England this year, so he figures to make an impact this year.
If St. Joe's brings in another high profile transfer, they will be REALLY scary. Even if not, with everyone back from last year (presumably) plus these two additions, they figure to be one of the most talented teams in the nation next year. And they will STILL have only one senior on the roster, so they are set up for a major two-year run.
Until we see some roster consistency, I'm going to hold my breath on everyone being back. I'm assuming guys who built profiles last year, at least a couple of them, might have scholarship shots down the line and might go that route (as we saw with the first roster). I don't begrudge them at all, but I'd like to see St Joe's settle into a recruitment pattern. It's exciting to see them good and competitive, though - I hope that continues.
That's fair Ryan. But it does seem based on social media, and the fact that he already tried D1, that Jaecee is coming back. If he, Jackson (been there two years and at his size, doubt he could move up), and Powell (who will be a senior) all return, that's all they need to be really good, along with the role guys who surely aren't moving up plus these two recruits. Taelon Martin seems like the guy most likely to transfer, that was his plan I believe, but not sure he did enough as a frosh to excite D1 schools .... if he sticks around, he could explode next year. For sure, will be curious to see their roster next year!
I agree with both of you, but at least for the next 2-3 years, they do seem pretty set around Martin/Jackson/Powell, for all of the reasons you mentioned. At some point they are probably going to have to settle into a more standard recruitment pattern, either with Calhoun or post-Calhoun, but for now, it's hard to say it isn't bringing immediate results.
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The off season has hit August and with it has come news of Division III Fall Championships being canceled for the same reason Winter Championships were derailed and Spring Championships pulled earlier this year: COVID 19 Pandemic.
The decision came on the heals of a vast majority of DIII institutions curtailing fall sports and many pushing winter sports starts on their campuses until January at the earliest.
What does this mean for the 2020-21 season of college basketball? Specifically what does it mean for Division III? Will there be a basketball season? Will it be a six-week-or-so-sprint? Or is there a way to adjust things?
On the Mid-Summer edition of the Hoopsville Podcast, we try and get some answers to those questions. We talk to one coach who actually has put together a proposal to start the season in January, with some changes to make it work including crowning a champion in April. And we talk to an administrator who also serves on the DIII Management Council to better under stand the decisions made to cancel championships and if shift a season like basketball is even possible.
Plus, we honor the best of the best in the last decade of Division III women's basketball. Gordon Mann joins us to discuss how the 2nd D3hoops.com Women's All-Decade came together (and hints of work on the men's list).
Guests include:
- Philip Ponder, Oglethorpe men's coach
- Jason Fein, Bates Athletics Director and DIII Management Council member
- Gordon Mann, D3hoops.com Senior Editor
And of course, there is always the Hoopsville Notebook. A few things we take note of that have made headlines since the beginning of July. We also tip our hat to a few of those who have always helped the show be it's best.
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That's fair Ryan. But it does seem based on social media, and the fact that he already tried D1, that Jaecee is coming back. If he, Jackson (been there two years and at his size, doubt he could move up), and Powell (who will be a senior) all return, that's all they need to be really good, along with the role guys who surely aren't moving up plus these two recruits. Taelon Martin seems like the guy most likely to transfer, that was his plan I believe, but not sure he did enough as a frosh to excite D1 schools .... if he sticks around, he could explode next year. For sure, will be curious to see their roster next year!
Looks like Martin has transferred to a junior college in FLA. https://dscfalcons.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/releases/IncomingClass
Very sad news out of Albertus Magnus:
https://twitter.com/albertusmbb/status/1307491311340191749?s=21
Awful, terrible, sad news for the entire Albertus community. This one really hits home on so many levels.
Jahqwan "JQ" Walters was such a great basketball player but an even better person. He had such an outgoing personality and was always the first one to come over and say hello or just shake your hand and say thank you for coming out and supporting the team. A really remarkable spirit who went through a lot in his life and always seemed to have a positive attitude. Not only an all american player but an all american person. To have such a great life cut short due to gun violence is just incredibly sad and I pray for all of JQ's family and friends who new him.
As a fan, to feel such a connection to him simply as that, just a fan, I think speaks for this young mans personality and character. To graduate with a degree I know meant a lot to him from a few conversation we had together and then to see him sign a professional contract overseas to play basketball was the icing on the cake so to speak because it justified all the sweat and hard work he put in over the years. Not to mention being selected to play on the WeAreD3 team in "The Tournament." To this day, I have yet to see a player who shouldered as much as he had to and played all out for 40 minutes every single night.
JQ solidified himself as one of the greatest players to ever put on a Falcon jersey not just with his play on the court but his life off it. He attended games as regularly as he could when he was home as an alumnus and I will truly miss his smile and sense of humor in the stands.
RIP JQ, you will be missed dearly
Will there be a 2020-21 NCAA Division III basketball season? If so what will it look like? What will the post-season look like?
It is on the mind of student-athletes, coaches, administrators, parents, and fans for several weeks, if not months, now. We are finally understanding what it may look like as a number of decisions or proposals are now making their way around Division III.
In this month's podcast, Dave McHugh not only downloads all the things being considered and the likely outcomes, but tries to give listeners an understanding of how much is still unknown despite some things becoming more clear.
McHugh also talks to Texas-Dallas women's basketball coach Polly Thomason for her take. Thomason has been in the Division III Women's Basketball National Committee for several years and is this season's chair of the committee. She also serves on the WBCA Board of Governors. Thomason not only provides her perspective on much of what is going on not only in Division III, but in women's basketball as well.
And of course, there is always the Hoopsville Notebook. Unfortunately, there is some sad news in the Notebook this month, but also news to celebrate especially when it comes to DIII alums making news in the NBA.
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First-time poster, long-time follower. The, for the most part, absence of DIII basketball this winter has been rough. No games, nothing to talk about, little activity on the boards. So I thought, with 2020 giving way to 2021, it might be a great time to recap the decade. A lot occurred in the GNAC from the 2010-11 season through the conclusion of the 2019-20 one and this will be my attempt to document some major changes and hand out some awards!
First, the changes: Anna Maria joined the league in 2011, Emerson left (NEWMAC) in 2013, Colby-Sawyer and Regis joined in 2018, Mt. Ida closed in 2018, Dean joined this fall, Suffolk left (CCC) this fall.
Now, my awards...
GNAC Coach of the Decade: Mitch Oliver, Albertus Magnus - 2x GNAC COY, 6x GNAC Champion, 2013-14 D3 Hoops Northeast Region COY. Runner Up - Jamie Benton, Johnson & Wales.
- Benton (NABC, 2015-16), Lawson - Emmanuel (D3Hoops, 2018-19), & Calhoun/Miller - Saint Joseph's CT (D3 Hoops, 2019-20) also received regional coach of the year accolades.
GNAC Player of the Decade: Quarry Greenaway '16, Johnson & Wales - 4x All-GNAC selection, POY, ROY, multiple All-District/Region teams and an All-American. Runner Up - Ray Askew '12, Albertus Magnus; Lamonte Thomas '12, Johnson & Wales; Darius Watson '14, Albertus Magnus - This was tough, I gave the nod to Greenaway over Watson because he made one more All-Conference team. Askew and Thomas only played two seasons in the decade, so while I took into account their entire careers, it was hard to give them this award.
Now, for my GNAC All-Decade Teams... I started this with the intent of making 3 Teams and listing 10 Honorable Mentions, which quickly turned into 4 Teams and 12 Honorable Mentions. I tried, to some degree, to make each team balanced positionally, like All-NBA selections. If I was just ranking a Top 10 or Top 20, it might look a little different. I did a thorough deep dive into individual accolades given out throughout the decade and tried to combine hardware with statistics and my recollection of each player individually. Anyway, here goes...
GNAC 1st Team All-Decade:Lamonte Thomas '12, Johnson & Wales - 4x All-GNAC, 2010-11 GNAC POY, 2x All-American.
Darius Watson '14, Albertus Magnus - 3x All-GNAC, 2013-14 GNAC POY, 2010-11 GNAC ROY, made 2 All-America teams as a Sr.
Quarry Greenaway '16, Johnson & Wales - 4x All-GNAC, 2015-16 GNAC POY, 2012-13 GNAC ROY, All-American.
Ray Askew '12, Albertus Magnus - 4x All-GNAC, 2x GNAC POY (09-10, 11-12), 2008-09 GNAC ROY, 2011-12 GNAC DPOY, All-American.
Victor Ljuljduraj '15, Albertus Magnus - 2x 1st Team All-GNAC, 2014-15 GNAC POY, 2x GNAC DPOY (13-14, 14-15), All-American.
GNAC 2nd Team All-Decade:Brian Hogan-Gary '20, Johnson & Wales - 3x All-GNAC, 2018-19 GNAC POY + DPOY, named to 2 All-District/Region teams.
Anthony Click '13, Anna Maria - 2x 1st Team All-GNAC, 2012-13 GNAY POY, named to 3 All-District/Region teams.
Jack Casale '21, St. Joe's (ME) - 2x 1st Team All-GNAC, 2019-20 GNAC POY, named to 2 All-District/Region teams.
Jaqhawn Walters '18, Albertus Magnus - 3x All-GNAC, 2x GNAC POY (16-17, 17-18), named to 4 All-District/Region teams, All-American.
Mike Rapoza '20, Anna Maria - 4x All-GNAC, 2017-18 GNAC DPOY, 2016-17 GNAC ROY, 2x D3Hoops 4th Team Northeast All-Region
GNAC 3rd Team All-Decade:Delshawn Jackson '22, Saint Joseph's (CT) - 2x All-GNAC, 2018-19 GNAC ROY, 2018-19 D3Hoops Northeast Region ROY, 2019-20 D3Hoops 3rd Team Northeast All-Region
Matt Medeiros '14, St. Joe's (ME) - 2x 1st Team All-GNAC, best scorer in class of 2014 not named Darius Watson.
Zach O'Brien '12, St. Joe's (ME) - 3x All-GNAC, over-shadowed by others in class of 2012 but he was really really good.
Tom Garrick '16, Johnson & Wales - 2x 1st Team All-GNAC, named to 3 All-District/Region teams.
Javon Williams '12, Lasell - 3x All-GNAC, 2010-211 D3Hoops 3rd Team Northeast All-Region
GNAC 4th Team All-Decade:Eian Davis '15, Albertus Magnus - 2x All-GNAC, major major impact on those Dunk Haven teams of the middle of the decade.
Darian Berry '19, St. Joe's (ME) - 2x All-GNAC, as far as I can tell he's the league's only Academic All-American this decade.
Sean Bertanza '13, Lasell - 3x All-GNAC, was a walking-bucket, hands down best scorer in the 2013 class.
Dana Bean '20, Colby-Sawyer - 1x 1st Team All-GNAC, 1x 2nd Team All-GNAC... Colby-Sawyer's best player in their short time in the league so far.
Matt Pepdjonovic '13, Suffolk - 4x All-GNAC (Anyone else suprised by this?!), 2009-10 GNAC ROY, 12.6 RPG for his CAREER!
GNAC All-Decade Honorable Mention:Ademola Alfonja '19, Regis - 2x 2nd Team All-GNAC... Regis's best player in their short time in the league so far.
Patrick Bradanese '16, Anna Maria - 1x 1st Team All-GNAC, 1x 2nd Team All-GNAC
Antonio Davis '12, Norwich - 1x 2nd Team All-GNAC, 1x 3rd Team All-GNAC... his two years in the decade were stacked at his position.
Thomas Duffy '20, Suffolk - 1x 1st Team All-GNAC, 1x 2nd Team All-GNAC, 1x 3rd Team All-GNAC (2nd toughest omission from Top 20)
Ethan Dujon '17, Mt. Ida - 1x 1st Team All-GNAC, 1x 3rd Team All-GNAC... easily Mt. Ida's best player in the decade.
Mike Hogervorst '18, Norwich - 3x 3rd Team All-GNAC, 2014-15 GNAC ROY
Anthony Jernigan '17, Johnson & Wales - 1x 1st Team All-GNAC, 1x 2nd Team All-GNAC
Stefan Masciarelli '20, Lasell - 2x 1st Team All-GNAC
Armin Omanovic '17, Lasell - 2x 1st Team All-GNAC, 2016-2017 D3Hoops 4th Team Northeast All-Region (toughest omission from Top 20)
Don Poitras '11, Rivier - 2x 2nd Team All-GNAC, 2010-11 GNAC DPOY... only played one year in the decade, but DPOY let me get a pair of brothers on here.
Tom Poitras '14, Rivier - 1x 1st Team All-GNAC, 1x 2nd Team All-GNAC
Emmett Riddick '20, Emmanuel - 2x 2nd Team All-GNAC, major part of the Saints turnaround at the end of the decade.[/size][/size][/size][/list]
Great job, GNACBIAS! Very well researched & presented! I really can`t argue with any of your awards
as your reasoning was excellent!!
NOW for 2021.....a little birdie just told me, AMC will be taking the floor shortly!!!! Probably Mid-February.
No fans, but we`ll be able to see it I would imagine.
HOPE YET, PEOPLE...KEEP YOUR COLLECTIVE CHIN UP!
AMC RECRUITING NEWS:
Well Folks, we have some "Steak"! My little birdie has told me that Mitch Oliver`s squad will include:
1. Kevin Crawford- 2018-19 CT All State point guard from Bassick High- Bridgeport, CT.
My son & I saw this young man "light it up" @ the JCC Schoolboy Classic 2 years ago.
He could be the point guard we`ve been seeking since Eian Davis left!
2.Jordan Williams- Notre Dame Prep-West Haven, CT. (Career High School)
3. Eric Diaz - no information.
Hoops- SOON ENOUGH!
MORE AMC RECRUITING NEWS:
Well Folks I have 3 more new players for Mitch Oliver`s squad:
1. Bryan Assie- Transfer: 6-8, 240lb. Forward/Center- 2 years @ Monroe College-Westchester & one @
Southern University- Louisiana (Senior @ AMC)
2. Mekhi Warren- Hillhouse- New Haven- 6-5, 185lb. swingman- Transfer: one year @ S.CT. State-(soph.-
AMC)
3. Eric Burgos- Guard- Manchester, CT. High School- All CCC Conference
(Scratch: Eric Diaz- previous post)
It seems practice will begin first week of February- games 2 weeks later?
Testing 3X per week. Stay well, men!
WELCOME TO ALL NEW RECRUITS! BUCKLE UP THIS SHOULD BE FUN!
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The Division III basketball season technically started nearly three months ago, but it has taken until the end of January for it to start feeling like the season is really underway. Even so, only about a quarter of the division has played just a single game. Another quarter of the division will never take to the court. And in between is wide gulf of different options.
On the first video-version of Hoopsville this season, Dave McHugh is joined by much of the D3hoops.com crew, Pat Coleman and Ryan Scott, to react to what has been one of the more unique seasons ... to say it lightly.
We react to the challenges schools are facing, what coaches are grappling with on a daily basis - especially beyond games and practices, and why schools are making so many different decisions.
We also discuss what is likely the future of this season's NCAA Championship Tournaments and, more importantly, when the decision on those tournaments will be made.
Plus, will there be a Top 25? No. Well, yes. Kind of. Tune in to learn more on what's coming. Plus a lot more including Dave spinning off Pat's thoughts on those wishing to attend games.
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Well Albertus fans, to me its beginning to look like it might be difficult for the Falcons to get on the court and at least get a few games in this season. They have had a few positive cases from my understanding and continue to work to try and get back. Ultimately, all that matters is that these players and coaches stay healthy during these trying times. As disappointing as it is, especially for the seniors, sometimes you have to take a step back and realize that some things are just bigger than basketball.
On another side note, some news out of New Britain as Central CT and Donyell Marshall decided to part ways the other day. Our head Coach, Mitch Oliver name is already being tossed around as a potential candidate and replacement. I have seen some talk on twitter and fan boards and while this would be an amazing opportunity for Coach Oliver (and I think we all agree he deserves it) it would be a crushing blow to the Albertus basketball program. We'll see what happens as things progress in their hiring process over the next month or so........
On a more fun note, I have heard that freshman guard Kevin Crawford is and absolute animal. I was told he is dynamic, fearless and will be a difference maker for this team immediately. I was also informed that transfer big Bryan Assie is the best low post, back to the basket player that we have had since Big Vic which is really saying something!
I agree that safety is paramount & I also would also expect more personal discipline so that
they could achieve their desire to play hoops.
As far as Mitch Oliver`s opportunity, it`s about time this great coach gets recognized for all that
he has accomplished.
Here`s expecting games to be played; come on men!
OH NO, Saints just lost their young, successful coach to a D1 program. The overnight turn around in the Saints program was directly attributed to his hiring and now he is gone. Well, let's see if the new AD can match his first hiring with another successful hiring. That is the chance you take when you hire a first time head coach at a D3 school. If they are successful, they leave. Saints have been a lot of fun to watch the last two years, they moved the ball, took good shots, and played tough defense. Hope they can find another coach with that combination.
Big news from Colby-Sawyer. They'll be looking for a new MBB coach, I think for the first time as a member of D3. Foti has been there for 28 years.
https://www.colby-sawyerathletics.com/news/2021/5/24/mens-basketball-longtime-mens-basketball-coach-bill-foti-accepts-athletic-director-position-at-guilford-college.aspx
Any idea what the league will look like this year? Tough to tell with so many teams not playing last year and a lot of new coaches in the league
I can only comment on the Albertus Magnus College Falcons. They have a lot of work to do, but they
have the potential to dominate the GNAC again! Why?
Well, Tyreek Perkins is back for a graduate year & he is a stud #2 guard.
Terry Dawkins is a solid veteran presence @ the #4.
Center is a little uncertain, unless Justus Washington can improve on both sides of the ball.
Now for the keys to success:
KEVIN CRAWFORD is our new point guard & has the potential to be better than Eian Davis.
If he can play under control, he will be the key to the Falcon`s success!
ERIC BURGOS ,out of Manchester High School, is a wing/#2 guard who can contribute immediately.
Last, but not least, Devon Warner is our deadly outside threat from 3 who can change a game himself!
Mitch Oliver will have this team on top or competing for it, COUNT ON IT!
Well , the Albertus Magnus College Falcons beat Rutgers-Camden, 71-69.
I thought it was a poor performance, even for the first game of the season.
The most distressing stats were FOUR ASSISTS for the ENTIRE TEAM & 20+
TURNOVERS.
Shoutout to : Justus Washington, 16 pts. & the winning layup with 2 seconds left
& to Tyreek Perkins for calmly sinking 2 free throws to tie the game.
A Lot of work needs to be done in one week before the home opener vs KEENE STATE!
Any notable GNAC news today?
Well, Albertus Magnus College beat Keene State, 84-81. AMC was led by Tyreek Perkins with 24 pts.,
including a big 3 & 4 free throws in a row late! Justus Washington had 14 pts. & 10 boards & was a
FORCE in the paint!
Qualon Wilkes, our point guard, had a solid game on both sides of the ball.
TEAM STATS:
49 Rebounds & 15 assists (which is a sight better than their first game!)
Next game: MIDDLEBURY @ home on 12/2/21.
Excellent performances by Albertus Magnus vs Middlebury & St. Joe`s- Maine.
The results a win & a loss, but what bodes well for the Falcons is their collective
tenacity on defense! This team has no star players, but with the aforementioned
good defense they can compete with anyone.
AMC will struggle scoring against the better teams, in particular in the half court.
That said, Justice Washington & Terry Dawkins, can be a load in the paint. If Davon
Warner can find his stroke from 3 this offense might finally start to cook.
Next game is HUGE as a MUCH IMPROVED Anna Maria team invades THE NEST this
Wednesday, December 8.
LET`S GO, MEN!
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#13 St. Joe's CT just took down #3 UW-Oshkosh Titans today at the Small College Basketball Classic at DII Northern State University in Aberdeen, South Dakota.
USJ defense held UW-Oshkosh to 44 points on 11-36 shooting from the field (30.6%), 3-19 from 3 pt range (15.8%), and 19-28 from the FT line (67.9%).
Oshkosh looked pretty "dubious" today to me-- how can UW-Oshkosh be the preseason #3 in the poll? Oshkosh Titans had to rely on the charity stripe for almost half of their scoring today, and UW-Oshkosh committed 21 turnovers in the ball game, most of them were as a result of Oshkosh not being able to handle the ball well vs the USJ defense. USJ only stole the ball 5 times.
Nevertheless, a significant win today for USJ-- proving that this year's BlueJays team can compete with any DIII team in the country.
Next up tomorrow in Aberdeen, SD for USJ-- a match with Illinois Wesleyan.
PS-- Great video on the Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference channel on Roku TV and other internet streaming services, but no commentary, and when the PA address microphone was turned off, the game had no audio.
Yes! It is a great "win" for Northeastern schools over the powers of the Mid-West.
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#13 St. Joe's CT just took down #3 UW-Oshkosh Titans today at the Small College Basketball Classic at DII Northern State University in Aberdeen, South Dakota.
USJ defense held UW-Oshkosh to 44 points on 11-36 shooting from the field (30.6%), 3-19 from 3 pt range (15.8%), and 19-28 from the FT line (67.9%).
Oshkosh looked pretty "dubious" today to me-- how can UW-Oshkosh be the preseason #3 in the poll? Oshkosh Titans had to rely on the charity stripe for almost half of their scoring today, and UW-Oshkosh committed 21 turnovers in the ball game, most of them were as a result of Oshkosh not being able to handle the ball well vs the USJ defense. USJ only stole the ball 5 times.
Nevertheless, a significant win today for USJ-- proving that this year's BlueJays team can compete with any DIII team in the country.
Next up tomorrow in Aberdeen, SD for USJ-- a match with Illinois Wesleyan.
PS-- Great video on the Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference channel on Roku TV and other internet streaming services, but no commentary, and when the PA address microphone was turned off, the game had no audio.
Oshkosh will be there when it counts, I think. I'm not sure what's going on there. They started slow vs Lawrence and eventually won, put Jalen Overlay on the map against Calvin, but bounced back with a nice win over Hope, with Evan Thomas. They get dominated by St. Joe CT, but rebound vs a good Neb Wes team with potential AA Peter Lash. They again start out slow vs Edgewood and then end up smoking them in the 2nd half.
I'm confident Oshkosh will still be one of the top teams come season's end.
Final from Newton, MA tonight:
#1 Univ. of St. Joseph 73, Lasell 66-- Home underdog covers the +24.5 point spread.
The predicted scoreline for tonight's game, courtesy of Matt Snyder's net efficiency handicapping system:
Univ. of St. Joseph 84, Lasell 60
http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-basketball-efficiency.html (http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/p/division-iii-mens-basketball-efficiency.html)
Lasell came into tonight's contest with only a 1% chance to win this game, and was a +24.5 point home underdog.
The predicted tempo of the game was 77 possessions per team, and the predicted over/under total was 144.
USJ had only 72 possessions in the win-- Game tempo a little slower than predicted.
Game total tonight is 137-- Under wins that one.
Had Lasell pulled this one off, it would have been the upset of the season in D3Hoops-- but as it stands, Univ. of St. Joseph still remains undefeated and at #1 in the D3Hoops.com Top 25 poll going into Saturday's contest at Colby-Sawyer.
USJ is now 19-0, 12-0 in GNAC play with 6 games remaining until the GNAC tournament.
Contest was originally scheduled to be played 24 hours earlier, but was postponed to tonight due to weather conditions.
Tuned in to the USJ at Colby-Sawyer game. Really loving Colby-Sawyer's announcer!!
Final from Andy Yosinoff Court in Boston, MA-- Emmanuel Senior Day--
Emmanuel 82, St. Joe's Maine 74
With the win, Emmanuel has clinched the GNAC North men's title and will be the #2 overall seed in the GNAC tournament. As the winner of the GNAC North, Emmanuel has clinched a home court semifinal game in the GNAC tournament on Feb. 23 (assuming Emmanuel wins their home quarterfinal contest on Feb. 21) and will not have to play USJ in the tournament until the GNAC Men's Championship game on Feb. 25, which would be played in West Hartford, CT if the Saints and the Bluejays meet up for the AQ bid and the right to go to the NCAA DIII men's tournament.
The win snaps a 3 game losing streak for the Emmanuel men-- Emmanuel men are now 12-3 in the GNAC North and have a 4 game lead in the division over St. Joe's Maine with 2 games left to play.
:)A great win tonight for Albertus Magnus College over Emmanuel College. Kevin Crawford w/21 points &
Terry Dawkins w/27 points & 12 boards led the way.
NEXT UP: GNAC CHAMPIONSHIP VS ST. Joseph of West Hartford on Sunday.
No one will give the Falcons a chance to beat the Blue Jays, the number 1 team in the nation.
AMC has heart & they will play St. Joes very tough. If they play the better defense, they will
SHOCK THE D-3 WORLD!!!!
GOOD LUCK, FALCONS ON SUNDAY!
ALBERTUS MAGNUS COLLEGE HAS SHOCKED THE D-3 WORLD!
AMC: 83
St. Joseph: 79
Falcons are going to the NCAA tournament after a gutsy win over the #1 team in the nation!
Pride wins out on the West Hartford court.
Congratulations to AMC! As a a parent of a NESCAC team that has played AMC several times I am impressed but I am not surprised. The Falcons always bring their A game. Congratulations again
Hello!
I admit, I have never been on this board till now, but I was happy to see there is a resident Albertus Magnus poster!
Looking forward to the game tomorrow! I'll be secretly watching it at work lol
Never underestimate your competition, my friend. More battles are lost because of it.
The Falcons will come to play with gusto. Count on it, pal.
I hope the Blue Phantoms show up.
Great win by Albertus Magnus last night. They've beaten the preseason #2 NEWMAC team, Babson and the preseason #2 NJAC team, Montclair St now.
Hey GNAC followers,
Curious to know you you figure this year's teams shake out. Has there been a preseason poll released yet? What scrimmages have the teams had so far?
https://thegnac.com/sports/mbkb/2024-25/releases/24-25MBBPreseasonPoll
https://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2024-25/boxscores/20250104_rpk5.xml?view=boxscore
Seems a little excessive for 2 starters to play 31 and 34 minutes in a 60-pt win, up 35 at halftime.
St. Joseph (Conn.) 9-0
Lasell 9-1
St. Joseph's (Maine) 8-1
Albertus Magnus 8-2
Norwich 5-4
Mitchell 5-4
Dean 5-5
Anna Maria 5-5
Elms 4-5
Regis (Mass.) 3-6
Rivier 3-7
Johnson and Wales 2-7
Emmanuel 2-7
Colby-Sawyer 1-8
New England College 1-8
St. Joseph CT at Alb Mag this weekend
We have news on the rescheduling of the GNAC men's basketball game between Mitchell and Dean that was supposed to have been played last Wednesday, Feb. 12 at Pieri Gymnasium in Franklin, MA, but was suspended in the middle of the first half with the score of Dean 18, Mitchell 14 when Eddie Volkerts of Mitchell collapsed on the floor and was taken to a local hospital. Volkerts had been named to the D3Hoops.com Team of the Week for his performance over the preceding week prior to the game. According to news provided by Hoopsville, Volkerts is okay and is recovering. No further details have been released regarding his condition. Mitchell did send a brief press statement which was read on the Hoopsville show the day after the medical incident.
The game is now scheduled to resume on Thursday, Feb. 20, at 6 PM ET at Pieri Gymnasium in Franklin, MA. According to the GNAC website, it will be resumed with the game still in the middle of the first half rather than restarted from the beginning-- as it is listed as a continuation of the game from Feb. 12, 2025. (although the date was listed in European format with the day listed before the month-- in other words 12/2 being Feb. 12 rather than Dec. 2 which would be the date listed in the American format of month/day).
The Mitchell at Dean game that started on Wednesday, Feb. 12, 2025 and was suspended with 10:06 remaining in the first half and Dean leading Mitchell by a score of 18-14 will resume at 6 PM ET today from Pieri Gymnasium in Franklin, MA. The Dean athletics channel on Boxcast is scheduled to stream pregame warmups starting at 5:45 PM ET.
As I understand it, the game will continue from the point of the suspension and not be restarted from the beginning.
Both Mitchell and Dean are tied at 6-6 in the GNAC and have clinched spots in the GNAC men's basketball tournament. However, this game has to be played for seeding. The winner could very well be on track to avoid a Monday play-in game and go straight to next Tuesday's GNAC quarterfinals, while the loser will most likely have to enter the GNAC tournament in the play-in round this upcoming Monday and have to win 4 games for the AQ.
The GNAC has released the playoff seedings and schedule for the 2024-25 GNAC men's basketball tournament.
St. Joe's Maine is the #1 seed for the 2025 GNAC men's basketball tournament.
The press release can be found at:
http://thegnac.com/sports/mbkb/2024-25/2025PlayoffSeedings
The official GNAC tournament Central page for the 2025 GNAC men's basketball tournament can be found at
http://thegnac.com/tournaments/mbkb/2024-25/index
GNAC play-in round schedule for Monday, Feb. 24, 2025
#10 Anna Maria at #7 Dean-- Franklin, MA-- 5 PM ET
#9 Mitchell at #8 Elms-- Chicopee, MA-- 7 PM ET
GNAC quarterfinal schedule for Tuesday, Feb. 25, 2025
#8/#9 winner at #1 St. Joe's Maine-- Standish, ME-- 7:30 PM ET
#10/#7 winner at #2 Lasell-- Newton, MA-- 7 PM ET
#6 Rivier at #3 USJ-- West Hartford, CT-- 7 PM ET
#5 Norwich at #4 Albertus Magnus-- New Haven, CT-- 7:30 PM ET
GNAC semifinals-- Thursday, Feb. 27, 2025
GNAC Championship-- Saturday, March 1, 2025
We had 2 exciting play-in games in the GNAC last night that came down to the wire with both Mitchell and Dean advancing to tonight's quarterfinals.
Tonight's GNAC quarterfinal schedule--
1.) #9 Mitchell at #1 St. Joe's Maine-- Standish, ME-- 7:30 PM ET
2.) #7 Dean at #2 Lasell-- Newton, MA-- 7 PM ET
3.) #6 Rivier at #3 USJ-- West Hartford, CT-- 7 PM ET
4.) #5 Norwich at #4 Albertus Magnus-- New Haven, CT-- 7:30 PM ET